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Vegas Jeff
01-11-14, 00:38
I know people will bash me but I had three regular girls stay with me. One at a time of course. They stayed as long as I wanted basically until I kicked them out. All very GFE and even PSE. They stayed days at a time each. Willing to do anything I wanted anytime any place any hole. I do have an advantage I am young and speak native spanish. We went out on dates like novios everytime. Showed me the city and would try to save me money everywhere. Here is where I will be bashed. They didn't want any money whatsoever. Just payed for food, drinks and taxis / buses. Loved it. They each wanted to take me to airport and come to meet their family. Aint nobody got time for that. Had such a great time with them I couldn't hook up with the prepagos or go to the strip clubs. I couldn't see myself paying for it when I was getting all I wanted genuinely from barely legal hotties. Can't wait to go back. Maybe next time ill have more time to see the prepagos and clubs.Don't be surprised if when you return these girl's attitudes have changed. Many of these girls are planting seeds just like we are. When they get a hint that nothing is happening, things will change. I hope for your sake they don't. Finding three pretty girls that you just met in Medellin, who will have anal sex with you almost immediately, is rare IMO. Enjoy your luck while you have it.

There are plenty of experienced travelers, with good Spanish, who struggle in Medellin. They want something more than stripclubs, mps, or girls to meet through the internet that are being run through by foreigners. Please share how you met these girls as it might help some of these guys.

I have mentioned in the past that time in Medellin is valuable and I will give an example. About a year and a half ago I met a semi-pro who changed my Medellin experience. This girl went on a hunt for other girls for me. I told her regular girls or girls with limited experience only. Although she was connected to internet circles and had worked at Fasay Dos, she actually listened and brought me almost exclusively non-pro girls. I could not have had a better girl for this job. She knew what I was looking for and she was bringing me exactly what I wanted. She was bringing me 3-4 girls a month. This might not sound like alot but these were pre-screened girls by a girl who has good radar for what I was looking for. A few trips later I had enough seeds planted between the girls she was sending me and the friends of these girls.

Getting quality girls without money is overrated. Getting quality girls without effort is underrated.

Good luck to all.

VJ

Nclpimp
01-11-14, 02:39
I wanted to hit as much as I could but I couldn't pass up these girls for a hardened pro. I look forward to going back very soon and adding more to my stable.


I spend a considerable amount of time gathering menus and leaving them at the apartment for the next guy once I leave. And what do I get when I return? Nothing. Not even a fucking phone book, LOL. But here are some menus for you ungrateful bastards to help you get started. Thanks me!

Hopefully other will follow suite.

And congrats to NclPimp. You went from asking me about info on the most hardened Pros to not needing their services at all!

Nclpimp
01-11-14, 02:45
One I told them I had prior family arrangements I couldn't get out of and felt bad bringing her. I didn't want them thinking bad about her. The other had to work so she had to go but didn't want to go. I also picked a fight with one over a stupid comment to get the other one in. They each would still be with me if they could. They email me and one even gave me a going away present (a colombian picture frame with our foto)


Nawh man! It sounds like you had the time of our live! LOL! Most guys here are searching for this!

Some will say you're full of it but they just be hating.

Let me ask you; how did you get them out smoothly? With out the usual drama? Or did you just kick them out?

Legal Tender
01-11-14, 05:03
I know people will bash me but I had three regular girls stay with me. One at a time of course. They stayed as long as I wanted basically until I kicked them out. All very GFE and even PSE. They stayed days at a time each. Willing to do anything I wanted anytime any place any hole. I do have an advantage I am young and speak native spanish. We went out on dates like novios everytime. Showed me the city and would try to save me money everywhere. Here is where I will be bashed. They didn't want any money whatsoever. Just payed for food, drinks and taxis / buses. Loved it. They each wanted to take me to airport and come to meet their family. Aint nobody got time for that. Had such a great time with them I couldn't hook up with the prepagos or go to the strip clubs. I couldn't see myself paying for it when I was getting all I wanted genuinely from barely legal hotties. Can't wait to go back. Maybe next time ill have more time to see the prepagos and clubs.
Let me ask you; how did you get them out smoothly? With out the usual drama? Or did you just kick them out?
I have had my fair share of live in girlfriends myself but for the guys that are just visiting what is the point of getting involved with a young hottie and making her feel like she is the ONE just to ultimately dump her and leave her feeling jilted.

8's and 9's takes more time and effort than most gringos here are willing to put in mostly because they are just looking for sex and not some sort of long term relationship.
Don't be surprised if when you return these girl's attitudes have changed. Many of these girls are planting seeds just like we are. When they get a hint that nothing is happening, things will change. I hope for your sake they don't. Finding three pretty girls that you just met in Medellin, who will have anal sex with you almost immediately, is rare IMO. Enjoy your luck while you have it.VJOn occasion, we see occasional reports of someone who announces himself to be "young and [who] speak[s] native Spanish" to have the so-called "normal" "barely legal hotties" opening up all 3 holes and obviously wanting to have a child by this visitor to the city of eternal spring. Let me make some observations, without bashing anyone. I think I know the girls of Medellin pretty well, and that goes from the hardened street sex workers, to the girls that frequent places like the mansion and the liquid strip, and many girls who were just trying to go to school and plan for their future.

Finding 3 nonprofessional girls (or professionals, as for as that is concerned) who will offer up their ass is more rare than drawing to an inside straight. Medellin is not Buenos Aires or Rio. Understanding, that time is finite, one can understand there was no time for the full-time or occasional girlfriend for a few pesos.

I don't care, nor is it objectively relevant, whether a girl is a commercial sex worker or just a "normal" girl. They all want security and protection. There is no such thing as free sex, never has been and never will be. If a girl wants to introduce you to her family that is because she has expectations in a relationship that will provide her security and protection.

The comments of SlamCity, Hentai and especially Vegas Jeff squarely present the relevant issue. As Vegas Jeff opined,"many of these girls are planting seeds just like we are. We may have a hand that nothing is happening, things will change." The real issue is whether these girls were represented to have a future with the writer? There is no need for any drama,"usual" or otherwise, if you don't by misrepresentation create expectations that are based on false promises. Most of these girls that we would consider just to be "normal" girls, even if their beauty and physical attractiveness, is extraordinary are simply looking for security and protection. Most are looking for "some sort of long term relationship" even though foreigners come here and lie to them in order to obtain and maintain a sexual relationship.

In summary, these girls have enough difficulties and disappointments in life, to have some foreigner with a few pesos in his pocket to come down and mislead them and making them rightfully feel "jilted."

Not only is that kind of conduct unmanly, but it is far too often stereo typical conduct for those who visit the city and consort with the beautiful women here. I'm interested in what you told these girls to induce them to share their bodies with you without express or implied promise of compensation.

I hope no one would lie to any of these girls just in order to have sex with them. Not only is it wrong, but. .

It's bad fucking energy!

Ricker
01-11-14, 05:23
One I told them I had prior family arrangements I couldn't get out of and felt bad bringing her. I didn't want them thinking bad about her. The other had to work so she had to go but didn't want to go. I also picked a fight with one over a stupid comment to get the other one in. They each would still be with me if they could. They email me and one even gave me a going away present (a colombian picture frame with our foto)There ya go playa playa! LOL.

Sounds like you had fun! Duhhh.

Good luck with the inevitable ensuing drama haha.

Ricker
01-11-14, 05:28
I hope no one would lie to any of these girls just in order to have sex with them.Really LT?

That's been happening since the beginning of time.

Might not be right, but we all know it's reality, and most girls know it too.

JustLeaveItIn
01-11-14, 05:33
Hi to all,

I am a young, decent looking, humble yet street smart, Spanish speaking American man that's kind of confused if I should make a solo trip to MDE, I've been deadset on going to MDE for a while long time, since I've been reading posts on here, I'm unsure.

1st I plan on staying in an apt, and I kinda feel left out when everyone talks about these regular girls from the reg hotels. And I keep hearing those girls arent that hot, WTF? I thought MDE had some of the hottest women in the world. I was a bit disappointed with the girls in Cartagena and thier rates and I'm expecting prettier lighter skinned gals with much better prices. For exp $250,000-450,000 overnight in Cartagena.

My plan is to meet in public places and take them back to the apt if the price is right, can someone give me a price range that I can expect to pay for a pretty one (BTW I'm cool with thick chicks with fat asses)

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Legal Tender
01-11-14, 06:31
Really LT?

That's been happening since the beginning of time.

Might not be right, but we all know it's reality, and most girls know it too.Of course it has been happening "since the beginning of time." It isn't right, and what are you suggesting? That most girls know we're just a bunch of liars? If it isn't right, it isn't right.

Only good energy, my respected amigo.

TweedleD
01-11-14, 06:39
How does nclpimp get all that free pussy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfXawM38QzQ

C Jack Sparrow
01-11-14, 06:41
LT is right, but he is not a pirate.

I'm a pirate and have caused damaged, suffered economical losses and personal damages when the forces I fought have had more firepower, but in the end: I have entered territories that the standard monger never will see!

The ordinary calculating standard gringo monger doesn't seem to take The piracy risk, but are instead doing good business (as incarnations of The 100% Rational Economic Man). However, he has never explored the skarky waters: There are Clubs that are never discussed here, in which you find only 9-10-point babes. Prices are accordingly. There you will have the sexual experience that will terminate years, if not decades, of 1st world sexual frustration, often hidden in your subconscious.

Pirates knows about those clubs. It's risky, but worth the risk and money to visit, if you want the erotic adventure of your life.


On occasion, we see occasional reports of someone who announces himself to be "young and [who] speak[s] native Spanish" to have the so-called "normal" "barely legal hotties" opening up all 3 holes and obviously wanting to have a child by this visitor to the city of eternal spring. Let me make some observations, without bashing anyone. I think I know the girls of Medellin pretty well, and that goes from the hardened street sex workers, to the girls that frequent places like the mansion and the liquid strip, and many girls who were just trying to go to school and plan for their future.

Finding 3 nonprofessional girls (or professionals, as for as that is concerned) who will offer up their ass is more rare than drawing to an inside straight. Medellin is not Buenos Aires or Rio. Understanding, that time is finite, one can understand there was no time for the full-time or occasional girlfriend for a few pesos.

I don't care, nor is it objectively relevant...

Hioctane
01-11-14, 15:37
LT,

We can debate forever about the definition of "free sex." IMO, in the monger sense it refers to whether there is payment is made for sex either before or after. It is like the Friends episode where Joey and Phoebe contend whether anything is ever truly altruistic.

Also, you talk as if tricking women into sex is a Colombian phenomena. It has been happening worldwide since the beginning of time! Just remember Karma!

Lastly, you talk as if all women are working girls and incapable of being loved and needs to be "paid for." They may be planting seeds or whatever, but I've seen many working girls swept off their feet, marry a gringo and move back to the US. Good for them. I does happen.

Ricker
01-11-14, 16:39
Of course it has been happening "since the beginning of time." It isn't right, and what are you suggesting? That most girls know we're just a bunch of liars? If it isn't right, it isn't right.

Only good energy, my respected amigo.Hey LT, I'm really not suggesting anything, just stating the well known obvious that lots of guys will fib, act and tell out and out lies to get what they're after, regardless of nationality (gringos sure aren't the only culprits).

True in every corner of the planet.

I don't condone it, I just know it's a fact.

And by the way, yep it's true, girls lie too, LOL.

Me personally, as I've seasoned, matured, grown older, etc, and hopefully more wise, I've learned to be up front with girls.

I love the GFE and the non-pro experience (who doesn't?) , however, I really don't like hurting anyone either, so I just don't.

When I meet a non-pro, whether in Colombia, Brazil, US, wherever, I let them know who I am and what I'm looking for basically.

You know women though.

Even though you tell them something, some (maybe even most) , if they dig you, will still put on the full court press and try and win you over, change you, etc.

Like you say, and I too believe in;"what comes around, goes around" and good Karma.

Take care mi amigo.

Manny51
01-11-14, 17:12
LT is right, but he is not a pirate.

The ordinary calculating standard gringo monger doesn't seem to take The piracy risk, but are instead doing good business (as incarnations of The 100% Rational Economic Man). However, he has never explored the skarky waters: There are Clubs that are never discussed here, in which you find only 9-10-point babes. Prices are accordingly. There you will have the sexual experience that will terminate years, if not decades, of 1st world sexual frustration, often hidden in your subconscious.

Pirates knows about those clubs. It's risky, but worth the risk and money to visit, if you want the erotic adventure of your life.Cmon CJS. You can't drop that kind of bomb and not explain. Tell us about these clubs!

SavePros321
01-11-14, 22:57
Fuck! Some weather we are having! I had to damn near swim back to the apartment else I'd still be out there stuck in it.

In other news:

-La Policia have been out in full force the entire time I've been here. Some of them are even roving around in large groups. So much in that I have to step to the side to allow them to pass. They've been staked out up and down Poblado Ave and Calle 10, so you won't have any problems walking around anywhere day or night.

-You know you are at a certain Jedi level when you can order your food over the phone ("servicio al domicilios") without the help of your Paisa, LOL. But seriously, once she arrived I had her call back to the place to make sure I didn't fuck up the order, LOL.

-Feliz Cumple Razor77. Probably will not pass by Liquid Lounge tonight. Blame it on the rain. But more so my chica schedule will not allow for it. Drink enough for the both of us! I am already half drunk (is there a such thing?) , so you've got some catching up to do, LOL.

ForceSteeler
01-12-14, 00:08
Are the women in Colombia GFE?

I'm planning a trip to Colombia and I'm getting conflicting reports. Are the women in Medellin GFE friendly? Or is business like?

I have been to places like Costa Rica, Brazil, and DR, and all those places have lost GFE status. The girls are becoming more and more business like.

The best place I have been for GFE was the Philippines. The girls are good kissers and gently will stay the whole night. They will even let you go bareback, (Not that I want too anyways) but.

How is Colombia women? Do they like American gringos?

Hioctane
01-12-14, 00:39
Thanks for the responses. Very helpful. Av8r, I went back as much as I could in this thread but can't find whether your club has on-site short time rooms and what the bar fine situation was like.

We went to Fase Dos last night and it was pretty meh but not horrible. Don't know if we got the gringo overcharge. 20k a beer + a bunch of taxes and tip added. Also while there were a bunch of hotties, nobody seemed to be trying to take them upstairs.20k is about right. Drinks are overpriced there. If you you have a couple of buddies, it's more economical to order a bottle and unite girls over.

The locals like to just drink and watch. It's very expensive for them.

Hioctane
01-12-14, 00:45
Hello,

How much cost to fuck a girl in Ejucutivo en El Centro? Is it possible to go out with a girl to your apartment and spend the night?60-70k. If you tell them 60k most will agree. I believe the barfine is 50k. What you pay the girl is additional. Most likely in the 100-200k range depending on your negotiating skills.

Vegas Jeff
01-12-14, 08:13
Me personally, as I've seasoned, matured, grown older, etc, and hopefully more wise, I've learned to be up front with girls.

I love the GFE and the non-pro experience (who doesn't?) , however, I really don't like hurting anyone either, so I just don't.

When I meet a non-pro, whether in Colombia, Brazil, US, wherever, I let them know who I am and what I'm looking for basically.

You know women though.

Even though you tell them something, some (maybe even most) , if they dig you, will still put on the full court press and try and win you over, change you, etc.

Like you say, and I too believe in;"what comes around, goes around" and good Karma.

Take care mi amigo.Pretty much the same here. If I tell a girl a lie, it is a lie that won't hurt her. It probably just gives me space or enhances something with her.

It is bad game to tell a girl that you love her when you don't. A position of strength is to tell a girl that you have a girlfriend. Tell her that your girlfriend has your heart but you really like her.

Some "put on the full court press" and pressure you. Some can't handle the dynamic of the relationship. If the pressure becomes a burden, cut them loose. There are plenty of new girls just waiting to say hello.

I have held on to some situations dangerously long. Not anymore. A girl has to be sweet, and the situation has to be easy and organized, for me to be repeating.

BrasilSoccer0
01-12-14, 08:24
I would certainly bash him and for a good reason.

Someone posting about him getting free pussy with full GFE and anal but not explaining how, the circumstances or where he found these girls is making no contribution here period!

Ask yourselves, what is he trying to convey! NOTHING.

That he can get free pussy! We all know that is possible. But at least explain HOW to the benefits of others who give useful info here!

Either this was his first time getting free pussy PERIOD, and he couldn't contain himself. Or worst!

"Trust but verify" is a great US foreign policy mantra.

Av8r
01-12-14, 08:50
[QUOTE
-Feliz Cumple Razor77. Probably will not pass by Liquid Lounge tonight. Blame it on the rain. But more so my chica schedule will not allow for it. Drink enough for the both of us! I am already half drunk (is there a such thing?) , so you've got some catching up to do, LOL.[/QUOTE]

Sorry you didn't make it to Liquid. Ended up being a great night. Both the Chicas and the gringos had a great time, and that's all I ask for. Although i'm not even sure Razor made it lol.

If anyone is in town for Superbowl, Liquid is going to be THE place to go. I can't wait!

Member #4287
01-12-14, 10:25
Are the women in Colombia GFE?

I'm planning a trip to Colombia and I'm getting conflicting reports. Are the women in Medellin GFE friendly? Or is business like?

I have been to places like Costa Rica, Brazil, and DR, and all those places have lost GFE status. The girls are becoming more and more business like.

The best place I have been for GFE was the Philippines. The girls are good kissers and gently will stay the whole night. They will even let you go bareback, (Not that I want too anyways) but.

How is Colombia women? Do they like American gringos?Whether or not you get a GFE depends a lot on you.

Best chances of getting GFE are at the Mansion (about 90%) from my own personal experience but I speak good spanish and don't go with any chick that doesn't give me a good vibe. Next would be strip clubs if you don't do them in the back room but rather get their phone number and make a date. And, if they actually show up (good 50% chance of GFE) YMMV. Casas are so hit and miss on quality that I rarely go anymore unless I'm bored out of my mind and someone asks me to go with. Less than 5% chance of a full blown GFE banging a chick in a casa but if you get a phone number and are able to get them out of that environment your chances of getting a GFE will increase dramatically.

Most chicks will spend the whole night for about double their hourly rate.

FoxesHunter
01-12-14, 14:41
I love the GFE and the non-pro experience (who doesn't?) , however, I really don't like hurting anyone either, so I just don't.

When I meet a non-pro, whether in Colombia, Brazil, US, wherever, I let them know who I am and what I'm looking for basically.

You know women though.I have chatted with hundred of regular girls on Internet. In my opinion they are the best girls on the world fot GFE, but when you ask tem sex they always refuse and stop to talk with you.

In my opinion the best country to get GFE and sex with a regular girl is Peru.

SavePros321
01-12-14, 15:08
Sorry you didn't make it to Liquid. Ended up being a great night. Both the Chicas and the gringos had a great time, and that's all I ask for. Although i'm not even sure Razor made it lol.That's good to hear amigo. And that's what's so great about Medellin: many options available. I definitely will check your place out in the future. At this point in time I've been coming here enough to where it really wouldn't make sense for me to "go fish" elsewhere after putting a lot of "sweat equity" into developing a primed and trimmed roster of proven providers (had to ex-communicate a few broads this trip who have gotten to comfortable with me and taken my generosity for granted).

As for Razor, I haven't been in touch with him either. I suspect that he possibly found a chica who put his dick in a vice grip with her chocha, which in turn caused him to pledge his allegiance (and his pesos) to his new favorita, LOL. We may need to put out an APB for him.

Member #4287
01-12-14, 19:54
I have chatted with hundred of regular girls on Internet. In my opinion they are the best girls on the world fot GFE, but when you ask tem sex they always refuse and stop to talk with you.

In my opinion the best country to get GFE and sex with a regular girl is Peru.Good point normal girlfriends actually give the best GFE. LOL

Legal Tender
01-12-14, 22:01
Me personally, as I've seasoned, matured, grown older, etc, and hopefully more wise, I've learned to be up front with girls.

I love the GFE and the non-pro experience (who doesn't?) , however, I really don't like hurting anyone either, so I just don't.

When I meet a non-pro, whether in Colombia, Brazil, US, wherever, I let them know who I am and what I'm looking for basically.

You know women though.

Even though you tell them something, some (maybe even most) , if they dig you, will still put on the full court press and try and win you over, change you, etc.

Like you say, and I too believe in;"what comes around, goes around" and good Karma.
Pretty much the same here. If I tell a girl a lie, it is a lie that won't hurt her. It probably just gives me space or enhances something with her.

It is bad game to tell a girl that you love her when you don't. A position of strength is to tell a girl that you have a girlfriend. Tell her that your girlfriend has your heart but you really like her.

Some "put on the full court press" and pressure you. Some can't handle the dynamic of the relationship. If the pressure becomes a burden, cut them loose. There are plenty of new girls just waiting to say hello.

I have held on to some situations dangerously long. Not anymore. A girl has to be sweet, and the situation has to be easy and organized, for me to be repeating.
Whether or not you get a GFE depends a lot on you.Ricker, Vegas Jeff, and Cali, I think that we're all reading from the same page. If you are married, have a girlfriend, or simply not interested in a monogamous relationship, and are honest, you generally won't have any problem with a GFE experience with new girls. Almost without exception, the girls in Medellin expect a sexual relationship if you share much time together because it is "normal" in the "Paisa" culture, regardless of your specific circumstance. My gut feeling is that most think if they can provide sex that you can't forget, and want more of; that they can change your status quo.

None of us are responsible for their expectations, unless they are based on our misrepresentations. It's remarkable the amount of respect and acceptance that you can get just by being straight with these girls. I just returned from Medellin on Friday, and one of the girls that I enjoy spending time with and who accompanied me to the airport at 6 o'clock in the morning (going to the airport with you is somewhat of a ritual or custom with them) told me right before I went to security that she knew that she didn't get all of my milk, but wanted first, when I return. I have a novia that I've had for over 5 years and traveled all over the world with her, and the girl that went to the airport knew that i had that relationship. Yet, with my honesty, you can see the result.

Treat these girls right, show them a little care and honesty, and you will have a girlfriend experience 95% of the time.

Only give out good energy, mi amigos.

Av8r
01-12-14, 23:52
That's good to hear amigo. And that's what's so great about Medellin: many options available. I definitely will check your place out in the future. At this point in time I've been coming here enough to where it really wouldn't make sense for me to "go fish" elsewhere after putting a lot of "sweat equity" into developing a primed and trimmed roster of proven providers (had to ex-communicate a few broads this trip who have gotten to comfortable with me and taken my generosity for granted).

As for Razor, I haven't been in touch with him either. I suspect that he possibly found a chica who put his dick in a vice grip with her chocha, which in turn caused him to pledge his allegiance (and his pesos) to his new favorita, LOL. We may need to put out an APB for him.I'm looking forward to your impressions, but I hope people don't look at Liquid as just a place to get chicas. It's a party place where gringos can meet up with friends and party in a friendly atmosphere. Having said that, we are close to becoming a full service Medellin strip club which will unfortunately limit the gringo atmosphere somewhat. We have to do it because there just aren't enough gringos in Medellin yet to support a gringo only place. My hope though, is that while being an all encompassing strip club, that we will retain something of our American flavor.

ForceSteeler
01-13-14, 01:56
Whether or not you get a GFE depends a lot on you.

Best chances of getting GFE are at the Mansion (about 90%) from my own personal experience but I speak good spanish and don't go with any chick that doesn't give me a good vibe. Next would be strip clubs if you don't do them in the back room but rather get their phone number and make a date. And, if they actually show up (good 50% chance of GFE) YMMV. Casas are so hit and miss on quality that I rarely go anymore unless I'm bored out of my mind and someone asks me to go with. Less than 5% chance of a full blown GFE banging a chick in a casa but if you get a phone number and are able to get them out of that environment your chances of getting a GFE will increase dramatically.

Most chicks will spend the whole night for about double their hourly rate.Ok sounds great. Also why don't a lot of gringos travel to Colombia? Do a lot of Americans think Colombia is dangerous? Just curious, I know a lot of gringos that go to DR, Brazil, Costa Rica, Thailand, etc. Just to name a few, But I don't know to many that have mention Colombia. But its not like I want to many Americans to know about Colombia anyways, we have a bad rap of spoiling women and putting them on a pedestal.

Combo
01-13-14, 04:28
Plenty go to Medellin. I don't know the numbers in comparison to the other places you mentioned, but Colombia is very much on the gringo / mongering path."Spoiling the women" has already been done in Medellin long ago. As a gringo, you won't be a novelty to the girls here, like you would have been 10 years ago. At least not if you stay in Poblado / Parque Lleras.


Ok sounds great. Also why don't a lot of gringos travel to Colombia? Do a lot of Americans think Colombia is dangerous? Just curious, I know a lot of gringos that go to DR, Brazil, Costa Rica, Thailand, etc. Just to name a few, But I don't know to many that have mention Colombia. But its not like I want to many Americans to know about Colombia anyways, we have a bad rap of spoiling women and putting them on a pedestal.

Member #4244
01-13-14, 04:31
I would certainly bash him and for a good reason.

Someone posting about him getting free pussy with full GFE and anal but not explaining how, the circumstances or where he found these girls is making no contribution here period!

Ask yourselves, what is he trying to convey! NOTHING.

That he can get free pussy! We all know that is possible. But at least explain HOW to the benefits of others who give useful info here!

Either this was his first time getting free pussy PERIOD, and he couldn't contain himself. Or worst!

"Trust but verify" is a great US foreign policy mantra.Let's not forget he is the same guy who put up a sign that said "Gringo looking for girls, interested parties call * *." He manages to find girls that want money for sex in some sort of indirect way and then won't shut the fuck about it, essentially.

Ken_Apples
01-13-14, 11:07
Treat these girls right, show them a little care and honesty, and you will have a girlfriend experience 95% of the time.

Only give out good energy, mi amigos.Not everyone is into the "new age-good energy" stuff, however, the older one gets the more experiences one have of people that are giving out bad energy in the end gets their *ss bitten. Hard.

Another way to see it, is that it's simply just a number game. And sooner or later someone will say enough is enough.

Jackson phrased the behavior of lying about getting married with the girl / lying about serious intention as "sexual shoplifting".

I totally agree with the term / label.

Regards, Ken Apples.

Hioctane
01-14-14, 18:35
Ok sounds great. Also why don't a lot of gringos travel to Colombia? Do a lot of Americans think Colombia is dangerous? Just curious, I know a lot of gringos that go to DR, Brazil, Costa Rica, Thailand, etc. Just to name a few, But I don't know to many that have mention Colombia. But its not like I want to many Americans to know about Colombia anyways, we have a bad rap of spoiling women and putting them on a pedestal.It's the language barrier. Most Colombian chicks don't speak English. Most Colombians for that matter. It is hard to go to a restaurant let alone communicate with a chica.

ForceSteeler
01-14-14, 21:20
It's the language barrier. Most Colombian chicks don't speak English. Most Colombians for that matter. It is hard to go to a restaurant let alone communicate with a chica.No I don't think so. Most girls in DR, and especially Brazil speak little to No english. Finding info on Columbia is very hard. I guess a lot of mongers want to keep Columbia under wraps, I don't blame them.

Combo
01-14-14, 22:25
Yet, I've seen many guys with virtually no Spanish have a great time in Medellin, Cali, and Cartagena.

Fact is, lots of guys, especially Americans, just don't leave their country much if at all.


It's the language barrier. Most Colombian chicks don't speak English. Most Colombians for that matter. It is hard to go to a restaurant let alone communicate with a chica.

Artisttyp
01-14-14, 22:43
First of all thank you for the casa map and Almotu for your scans of casa cards. This type of info is vital to get you off and running.

Today I went looking for Masajes Sexi carrera 45D #57-67 but wound up at Carrera 45 (no D) # 57-55 (Up a staircase). 37K/30 min

The girl said this was Sexi 2. The other Sexi I belive a block or two from parque periodista.

But where is 45 "D". I asked a few shop owners but they weren't sure and most lead me to carrera 45.

By the way #57-55 has a good line up IMO. Three out of six were very pretty. I wound up taking adriana for 30 minutes. I ate her pussy and ass bigtime. Hot little 21 year old witha wet sntach and she kept playing with herself after I was done.

You don't get this in Tijuana!

On another note I found an exchange house in centro:

Nutifinanzas.

CC Camino Real I. 126.

You go to avenida playas where it mEets the pedestrian path then walk up the stairs and it is to the right in the pathway you came up the stairs.

Very easy bring passport and fresh crisp bills. I exchanged 700 US @around 1920 with ease. I am kicking myself that I didn't bring all cash. It would have saved me all the BS with the ATM's

Member #4244
01-14-14, 23:00
Yet, I've seen many guys with virtually no Spanish have a great time in Medellin, Cali, and Cartagena.

Fact is, lots of guys, especially Americans, just don't leave their country much if at all.I mean how are you going to have a BAD time fucking girls and possibly getting into other naughty fun? That said, my friends without Spanish have typically REALLY regretted not having it. They wasted time, money and energy without it and even where they didn't, they didn't maximize their experience going out, being with the girls, etc. This is even with me being there to facilitate a lot of things and hook them up with things they needed, imagine if not for that they'd have been more frustrated.

I definitely recommend a basic command of Spanish before traveling here. Not required, but definitely recommended.

Member #4394
01-14-14, 23:14
Crra 45D is to the west of Crras 45 in parallel. Real Sexi is just a block from the casa you visited. Check the map please. Good info on Dulce Compania, or sexi 2. I will visit there in spring. I was at Sexi on 45D last month. All the girls were big, and I was disappointed.


First of all thank you Matt Psyche for your casa map and Almotu for your scans of casa cards. This type of info is vital to get you off and running.

Today I went looking for Masajes Sexi carrera 45D #57-67 but wound up at Carrera 45 (no D) # 57-55 (Up a staircase).37K / 30 min.

The girl said this was Sexi 2. The other Sexi I belive a block or two from parque periodista.

But where is 45 "D". I asked a few shop owners but they weren't sure and most lead me to carrera 45.

By the way #57-55 has a good line up IMO. Three out of six were very pretty. I wound up taking adriana for 30 minutes. I ate her pussy and ass bigtime. Hot little 21 year old witha wet sntach and she kept playing with herself after I was done.

Nabru
01-15-14, 01:38
.I hope people don't look at Liquid as just a place to get chicas. It's a party place where gringos can meet up with friends and party in a friendly atmosphere.I thought it would be great for that at first. Especially since most of my friends already have girlfriends or dates for the night before going out. However, I can't get most of my friends to return because the drink prices are so high.

MdeJohn
01-15-14, 03:51
I thought it would be great for that at first. Especially since most of my friends already have girlfriends or dates for the night before going out. However, I can't get most of my friends to return because the drink prices are so high.Stopped by a few weeks ago and paid something like 14,000COP for a rum and coke. The place was dead but that was before the new image so I thought I would try again for the big SuperBowl party. I think the owners were trying to get the place to break-even and were pricing drinks to get there. Hopefully the new business model can bring down the prices.

Artisttyp
01-15-14, 05:51
Crra 45D is to the west of Crras 45 in parallel. Real Sexi is just a block from the casa you visited. Check the map please. Good info on Dulce Compania, or sexi 2. I will visit there in spring. I was at Sexi on 45D last month. All the girls were big, and I was disappointed.Thanks. I will look for it next time.

I will do my best to update info as my trip progresses.

TweedleD
01-15-14, 07:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXP5yu0552E The game is the same everywhere, I just enjoyed the rent a car analogy

EagleEye70
01-15-14, 14:22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXP5yu0552E

The game is the same everywhere, I just enjoyed the rent a car analogyCubadave speaks the truth, LOL, comparing the hobby to a rent-a-benz.

MdeJohn
01-15-14, 18:34
Found a couple of places over on the west side of town (Estadio)

First was Tantra Masaje Cra 80 #44b-139.

Two story house on west side of cra 80 a few blocks north of San Juan (open gate with address written in large letters on front)

Only had one girl at the time but was early. Quoted 70K for 30 minutes and 100k for hour, full service.

Said they had service with hot tub for extra but the girl was about a 2 so I wasn't about to find out.

Acuabella, CL 50 (Colombia) #78A-11.

Walk further up Colombia after Energy, it's just after a large Swedish makeup / spa place on 2nd floor.

Usually have 3 girls working. 40k for half hour massage and handjob. 70k same but she takes her clothes off. 100k full service one-hour.

Been there twice but only committed once. Paula. 20yrs personable but not that great of a massage or happy ending. Not bad for 40k and close to home.

Sailor Jim
01-16-14, 16:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXP5yu0552E

The game is the same everywhere, I just enjoyed the rent a car analogyCubaDave should be inducted into the hall of fame.

Colombia Jake
01-16-14, 18:05
Http://www.colombiajake.com/December was busy and all three guests enjoyed there stay. I feel good when guys tell me it was the best vacation ever! This month is slow but I get a chance to hang out with my beautiful girlfriend. The feeling you get being with a young beautiful girl who actually cares about you is rare, so I am enjoying every night together as if its the last! I put up a new video on Colombiajake. Com with her so take a look. I have a tour tonight with several guys coming in from Manhattan and staying at the Charlie but other than just living the dream!

Jake

TweedleD
01-17-14, 03:31
December was busy and all three guests enjoyed there stay. I feel good when guys tell me it was the best vacation ever! This month is slow but I get a chance to hang out with my beautiful girlfriend. The feeling you get being with a young beautiful girl who actually cares about you is rare, so I am enjoying every night together as if its the last! I put up a new video on Colombiajake. Com with her so take a look. I have a tour tonight with several guys coming in from Manhattan and staying at the Charlie but other than just living the dream!

JakeHey, I saw that video, looked pretty good to me! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RghjHMYXPo8

Hioctane
01-17-14, 17:11
Stopped by a few weeks ago and paid something like 14,000COP for a rum and coke. The place was dead but that was before the new image so I thought I would try again for the big SuperBowl party. I think the owners were trying to get the place to break-even and were pricing drinks to get there. Hopefully the new business model can bring down the prices.Do they have different pricing depending on the day of the week or did prices increase? I was there on a weekday and paid 5k for a beer. Then I went on a weekend and paying like 8k.

Artisttyp
01-17-14, 19:04
Been to;

Chicaspuntocom Calle 54 Caracas No. 49-97 2nd floor tel 321 755 5120.

. Shabby line up of maybe 5 girls but IMO a good place for those that like to negotiate for extras. WHY? Because the girls are of lower quality and I doubt make much money. I settled on joanna Deer In Headlights shy timid but willing to please. Did the obligatory buttlick and BBBJ. Shy and timid but decent. Gave her 5K propina for her efforts. I probably will not go back. 33K / 30 minutes.

Club Seduccion Carerra 43 (giradot) #52-45. No answer buzzed and knocked a few times. It should be taken off the list.

Paisa Relax Cr. 45 #57-71 37K / 30 min.

A step up from shabby line up not quite a disaster. Found an older chica that was willing to please yet no BBBJ. I probably would not go back.

Aiffe- Calle 57 #43-27 (matts list says also #43-33. This is not the case anymore). Stick to #43-27. The map should be adjusted.

Avoid this place! Walked in had price list in english! There is a beautiful girl with japanese blood I wanted to do but right off the bat negotiations went downhill. She wants a propina for this and that and this and that. Chose jimena instead who I was able to negotiate with after listening to her BS. My deal was YOU do BBBJ and depending on your service your tip will reflect it. Bad service very bad tip (a little something for doing a BBBJ) good service better tip. She pulled through and gave me a rather decent BBBJ cum on tits but far from a warm reception in la cama. I would normally do a 5K tip (The Norm for me) but gave her 10K! WHY? The energy was so negative in the place that I wanted to leave in peace without anymore BS. Not so though because when I thanked the mananager he asked me if I had already paid? REALLY? Like you would let me session for 30 minutes without paying FIRST? AVOID but the japanese girl was hot if you are ready to BS with her and open your wallet. You really shouldn't though. 37K / 30 min.

Sorry for the typos but you know how internet cafes go.

To be continued

DmeHcg
01-17-14, 19:57
I'm grateful to everyone that comments, reviews and helps out on the board. I find it very humorous how someone people just gang up on each other. I'm not knocking anyone by any means but what I don't understand how anyone would have high expectations when only paying 37k for service and 5k tip. Unless my math is wrong that's about $20 US. What type of service are you expecting? Again not knocking on anyone and their hustle or system I just don't understand what the big deal is. What am I missing?

BayBoy
01-17-14, 20:38
Been to;

Chicaspuntocom Calle 54 Caracas No. 49-97 2nd floor tel 321 755 5120.

Shabby line up of maybe 5 girls but IMO a good place for those that like to negotiate for extras. WHY? Because the girls are of lower quality and I doubt make much money. I settled on joanna Deer In Headlights shy timid but willing to please. Did the obligatory buttlick and BBBJ. Shy and timid but decent. Gave her 5K propina for her efforts. I probably will not go back. 33K / 30 minutes.

Club Seduccion Carerra 43 (giradot) #52-45. No answer buzzed and knocked a few times. It should be taken off the list.

Paisa Relax Cr. 45 #57-71 37K / 30 min.

A step up from shabby line up not quite a disaster. Found an older chica that was willing to please yet no BBBJ. I probably would not go back.

Aiffe- Calle 57 #43-27 (matts list says also #43-33. This is not the case anymore). Stick to #43-27. The map should be adjusted.

Avoid this place! Walked in had price list in english! There is a beautiful girl with japanese blood I wanted to do but right off the bat negotiations went downhill. She wants a propina for this and that and this and that. Chose jimena instead who I was able to negotiate with after listening to her BS. My deal was YOU do BBBJ and depending on your service your tip will reflect it. Bad service very bad tip (a little something for doing a BBBJ) good service better tip. She pulled through and gave me a rather decent BBBJ cum on tits but far from a warm reception in la cama. I would normally do a 5K tip (The Norm for me) but gave her 10K! WHY? The energy was so negative in the place that I wanted to leave in peace without anymore BS. Not so though because when I thanked the mananager he asked me if I had already paid? REALLY? Like you would let me session for 30 minutes without paying FIRST? AVOID but the japanese girl was hot if you are ready to BS with her and open your wallet. You really shouldn't though. 37K / 30 min.

Sorry for the typos but you know how internet cafes go.

To be continuedInteresting report Artisttyp. Sounds like a lot of places NOT to go to. I like how you get right to the negotiations right up front, no beating around the Bush, so to speak. Glad to see you're back in Medellin, Colombia again. Its seems like its been a few years since you were last there. What hotel are you staying at?

Norman Stormin
01-17-14, 21:43
[QUOTE=Artistt I would normally do a 5K tip (The Norm for me) but gave her 10K! WHY?[/QUOTE]


The Norm you know has never tipped.

The Norm you know has never paid more than 20, 000 for services.

Tipping is a place in China and has no place in Medellin (except in sick Gringo minds).

If the above was a typo, I forgive you. If not, I resemble your reference to The Norm.


Respectfully, The Norm

Artisttyp
01-17-14, 22:07
The Norm you know has never tipped.

The Norm you know has never paid more than 20, 000 for services.

Tipping is a place in China and has no place in Medellin (except in sick Gringo minds).

If the above was a typo, I forgive you. If not, I resemble your reference to The Norm.

Respectfully, The NormEasy cowboy. The norm stands for normal. We both know this doesn't apply to you. As always thanks for the tips. I did manage to eat palatable food today at centro commercial hollywood. Decent food but they need to get rid of the pigeons that molest the tables.

Carry on soldier.

Always Randy
01-18-14, 00:20
Arrived into MDE about 10 pm. Quoted for a taxi into Parque Lleras at 70, 000 COP. Went upstairs to the departure area for the old negotiate a ride from a taxi dropping off trick as suggested in other ISG forums. Being late, there weren't any taxis dropping off. A couple of pirate taxis offered their services but declined and would never recommend anyone to take that service. Went back down to the taxi stand where a driver suggested to take the Collectivo taxi into San Diego and from there another cab into Parque Lleras which was only about 10 minutes away. 15, 000 COP for each passenger in the Collectivo and other 8, 000 from the drop off point to our hotel. Very well organized and fast. In San Diego, the van pulls up and a flood of uniformed young people race up to the door and help you with your luggage and direct you to one of the many waiting yellow taxis. Gave the kid a 1000 tip. So for my buddy and I to get to our hotel, the cost was only 39, 000 COP.

I can see why the cost of the taxi was so high, it's a heck of a long drive into Medellin from the airport!

Member #4394
01-18-14, 01:18
1) The value, that is purchasing power, of $20, is higher in some countries and lower in some countries, than the value of $20 in the USA.

2) In a real market, different from a perfect free market with complete information, a cheaper service could provide a larger satisfaction per dollar or even a better service than a pricier service.


I'm grateful to everyone that comments, reviews and helps out on the board. I find it very humorous how someone people just gang up on each other. I'm not knocking anyone by any means but what I don't understand how anyone would have high expectations when only paying 37k for service and 5k tip. Unless my math is wrong that's about $20 US. What type of service are you expecting? Again not knocking on anyone and their hustle or system I just don't understand what the big deal is. What am I missing?

MdeJohn
01-18-14, 04:08
Do they have different pricing depending on the day of the week or did prices increase? I was there on a weekday and paid 5k for a beer. Then I went on a weekend and paying like 8k.Not sure if they change the prices, doubt it, but I had a rum and coke which you would expect to be higher than a beer but not that much. Beer for 5k is about the same for most of the other clubs. 8k is a little high. Then again, they don't harass you with a waiter as soon as you walk in so that's nice.

Question for those Liquid Lounge owners, for the Super Bowl party, how are you transmitting the feed? English commentary and commercials or a local provider. Went to a party a few years ago and the commentary was in Spanish with local commercials, so thought I'd ask.

Thanks

Combo
01-18-14, 07:02
Yet I and others here have had a great time with chicas for $20 in various places. Is it that difficult to understand that $20 is a nice sum of money in some parts of the World? When you go to Colombian, DR, etc, it's best to leave your Norte Americano perceptions of the World behind.

Paying a chica $20 in certain places may give her more purchasing power than paying a girl many times that in the U.S. or Europe.


I'm grateful to everyone that comments, reviews and helps out on the board. I find it very humorous how someone people just gang up on each other. I'm not knocking anyone by any means but what I don't understand how anyone would have high expectations when only paying 37k for service and 5k tip. Unless my math is wrong that's about $20 US. What type of service are you expecting? Again not knocking on anyone and their hustle or system I just don't understand what the big deal is. What am I missing?

Member #4287
01-18-14, 07:37
I'm grateful to everyone that comments, reviews and helps out on the board. I find it very humorous how someone people just gang up on each other. I'm not knocking anyone by any means but what I don't understand how anyone would have high expectations when only paying 37k for service and 5k tip. Unless my math is wrong that's about $20 US. What type of service are you expecting? Again not knocking on anyone and their hustle or system I just don't understand what the big deal is. What am I missing?GFE and casas don't really go together.

Anyone can go to the centro casas that charge 37K for service and see what kind of quality is available for that price. It ain't pretty but at least it's cheap.

Jonesie
01-18-14, 10:22
I'd disagree. Some of the hottest women I've been with in Medellin have been casa girls. Granted, the percentages aren't up there with the Mansion girls, but you can see 100 girls within a 45 minuted tour, there will be some knockouts on the trip.


GFE and casas don't really go together.

Anyone can go to the centro casas that charge 37K for service and see what kind of quality is available for that price. It ain't pretty but at least it's cheap.

YG365
01-18-14, 11:19
Arrived into MDE about 10 pm. Quoted for a taxi into Parque Lleras at 70, 000 COP. Went upstairs to the departure area for the old negotiate a ride from a taxi dropping off trick as suggested in other ISG forums. Being late, there weren't any taxis dropping off. A couple of pirate taxis offered their services but declined and would never recommend anyone to take that service. Went back down to the taxi stand where a driver suggested to take the Collectivo taxi into San Diego and from there another cab into Parque Lleras which was only about 10 minutes away. 15, 000 COP for each passenger in the Collectivo and other 8, 000 from the drop off point to our hotel. Very well organized and fast. In San Diego, the van pulls up and a flood of uniformed young people race up to the door and help you with your luggage and direct you to one of the many waiting yellow taxis. Gave the kid a 1000 tip. So for my buddy and I to get to our hotel, the cost was only 39, 000 COP.

I can see why the cost of the taxi was so high, it's a heck of a long drive into Medellin from the airport!Well for a private driver, it's usually about 40000 COP I believe. The last time I was in Medellin, we got a taxi to take us from our Hotel near the Mansion to the airport for 30,000 COP.

Knowledge
01-18-14, 14:28
I personally would not keep $5000 in a hotel room safe.

QUOTE=Shamester; 1512103]Understand your bias.

However, bringing a chica back to your room can be dangerous. Recently in Sosua (check thread) a monger brought a chica back to his room. Chica had a group of robbers storm into the room and force the monger to open his safe at gunpoint. Monger lost up to $5,000US.[/QUOTE]

Manizales911
01-18-14, 16:48
The last time I was in Medellin, we got a taxi to take us from our Hotel near the Mansion to the airport for 30,000 COP.Are you sure? That is a very low price, I've never heard of anyone getting a taxi to the airport for that price.

Sailor Jim
01-18-14, 17:22
GFE and casas don't really go together.

Anyone can go to the centro casas that charge 37K for service and see what kind of quality is available for that price. It ain't pretty but at least it's cheap.You can get some of them to GFE if you repeat a good deal with her. It takes a little time.

So I think the best advice is to go to my favourite place with no GFE expectation and screw hot chics (This is the Colombian way to do working girls as most Colombians and expats living in Colombia already have all the GFE they can handle with wives, lovers, girlfriends and amiguitas)

Sometimes you just want to screw a hottie.

My fav place. New Life.

Why? Because there are always 10-20 girls in the line up and some of them are dandies. Yes the place is "all business" in how they March you around and handle the money transactions (a constant complaint here) but the bedroom is still the bedroom.

Screw a 8 or 9 in New Life and if the service is meh at least you were with a hottie. How many times do you choose a 5 or 6 in one of the other casas hoping her bad looks = low business for her therefore a better chance of her GFE effort. But she's a dud as well?

If a guy can't find a doable babe out of the 15+ which are usually available well, homo.

LookingToSwing4
01-18-14, 17:24
Arrived into MDE about 10 pm. Quoted for a taxi into Parque Lleras at 70, 000 COP. Went upstairs to the departure area for the old negotiate a ride from a taxi dropping off trick as suggested in other ISG forums. Being late, there weren't any taxis dropping off. A couple of pirate taxis offered their services but declined and would never recommend anyone to take that service. Went back down to the taxi stand where a driver suggested to take the Collectivo taxi into San Diego and from there another cab into Parque Lleras which was only about 10 minutes away. 15, 000 COP for each passenger in the Collectivo and other 8, 000 from the drop off point to our hotel. Very well organized and fast. In San Diego, the van pulls up and a flood of uniformed young people race up to the door and help you with your luggage and direct you to one of the many waiting yellow taxis. Gave the kid a 1000 tip. So for my buddy and I to get to our hotel, the cost was only 39, 000 COP.

I can see why the cost of the taxi was so high, it's a heck of a long drive into Medellin from the airport!I always pre-arrange an airport pick-up with whomever I am staying with or one of trusted few drivers I know. But I was wondering how others handle it when they are stood-up on arrival? I have never been, but expect someday that could very well happen. Sure I could call, but generally when I arrive in MDE, my cellphone minutes from the previous trip have expired. Would welcome any thoughts on your back-up plans or alternatives you have used when this happened to you. Thanks in advance.

BrasilSoccer0
01-18-14, 17:56
You sound like a budget traveller. But you are staying in el poblado?

If you want to save real money especially if you're traveling by yourself, take the airport bus service which costs around 8k to el centro behind hotel Nutibara. But will stop anywhere in-between.

Be careful with parque lleras. Personally that's not my cup of tea. It's a magnet for the worst of paisas since they know gringos stay and hang around there.

Have fun and make a report about your experience. This thread benefits from newbies' experiences. So don't take it for granted.


Arrived into MDE about 10 pm. Quoted for a taxi into Parque Lleras at 70, 000 COP. Went upstairs to the departure area for the old negotiate a ride from a taxi dropping off trick as suggested in other ISG forums. Being late, there weren't any taxis dropping off. A couple of pirate taxis offered their services but declined and would never recommend anyone to take that service. Went back down to the taxi stand where a driver suggested to take the Collectivo taxi into San Diego and from there another cab into Parque Lleras which was only about 10 minutes away. 15, 000 COP for each passenger in the Collectivo and other 8, 000 from the drop off point to our hotel. Very well organized and fast. In San Diego, the van pulls up and a flood of uniformed young people race up to the door and help you with your luggage and direct you to one of the many waiting yellow taxis. Gave the kid a 1000 tip. So for my buddy and I to get to our hotel, the cost was only 39, 000 COP.

I can see why the cost of the taxi was so high, it's a heck of a long drive into Medellin from the airport!

Member #4287
01-18-14, 18:28
I always pre-arrange an airport pick-up with whomever I am staying with or one of trusted few drivers I know. But I was wondering how others handle it when they are stood-up on arrival? I have never been, but expect someday that could very well happen. Sure I could call, but generally when I arrive in MDE, my cellphone minutes from the previous trip have expired. Would welcome any thoughts on your back-up plans or alternatives you have used when this happened to you. Thanks in advance.I always have a driver waiting for me when I arrive in MDE but I imagine they have vetted taxi drivers waiting at the curb like most international airports.

Also I usually call one of my regular Mansion chicks to put minutes on my phone before I get there. So I can call as soon as I arrive.

Manizales911
01-18-14, 19:46
I always pre-arrange an airport pick-up with whomever I am staying with or one of trusted few drivers I know. But I was wondering how others handle it when they are stood-up on arrival? I have never been, but expect someday that could very well happen. Sure I could call, but generally when I arrive in MDE, my cellphone minutes from the previous trip have expired. Would welcome any thoughts on your back-up plans or alternatives you have used when this happened to you. Thanks in advance.Only use the white taxis at the airport, otherwise you could be getting into a gypsy cab. I always bring a pen and piece of paper with me and make sure the taxista sees me writing down the car number.

Manizales911
01-18-14, 19:51
I always pre-arrange an airport pick-up with whomever I am staying with or one of trusted few drivers I know. But I was wondering how others handle it when they are stood-up on arrival? I have never been, but expect someday that could very well happen. Sure I could call, but generally when I arrive in MDE, my cellphone minutes from the previous trip have expired. Would welcome any thoughts on your back-up plans or alternatives you have used when this happened to you. Thanks in advance.You can now add minutes to your Colombian cell phone via Moneygram in the USA

TweedleD
01-18-14, 21:49
GFE and casas don't really go together.

Anyone can go to the centro casas that charge 37K for service and see what kind of quality is available for that price. It ain't pretty but at least it's cheap.It's actually a lot of fun for 20 bucks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r882b7o_r7I

TweedleD
01-18-14, 22:09
For a bit more money, this place does the job as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvSbNrtJYtc

Member #4287
01-18-14, 22:33
It's actually a lot of fun for 20 bucks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r882b7o_r7IThanks But no thanks. Jajaja.

But like someone pointed out below if you go to a dozen of these places And sort through a 100 of these chicks you might find yourself a gem. I personally have never seen any thing in the 50k or below price range that I would do but that is me. Have seen women in the 100k And above price range that were attractive but casa sex is well casa sex. Best sex I ever had in a casa was in the blue room with with a costeńa and I think it was her first day.

There aré a hell of a lot easier ways of getting a GFE from a hot chick in MDE than hitting the casas But hey everyone should have a hobby jajaja

BiggCommish
01-18-14, 22:56
Just arrived after 10 days in Cartagena and first impression is the place is huge. Any help would be great with that as well as any recommendations for first night out here. Fluent Spanish and experienced monger so worst case I will figure it out like other places. Been reading through the posts but a whole lot of useless information being posted over the last month or so. Would be nice if the admin would break the posts up into catagories ie. Lodging, chicas, locations. Anyway, I will let you know what I find here. Cartagena was awesome as always except for Tony number one who is an a-hole. No one should spend time near that guy all he does is stick it to you!

Member #4287
01-18-14, 23:30
You can now add minutes to your Colombian cell phone via Moneygram in the USAGood to know. Looks like there is $1. 50 charge on top of the mins. And noway to do it over the internet so you have to actually go to a MoneyGram location to put mins. On your Colombian cell phone. Lucky for me there is a location two blocks from my house that will do it.

TweedleD
01-18-14, 23:51
Thanks But no thanks. Jajaja.

But like someone pointed out below if you go to a dozen of these places And sort through a 100 of these chicks you might find yourself a gem. I personally have never seen any thing in the 50k or below price range that I would do but that is me. Have seen women in the 100k And above price range that were attractive but casa sex is well casa sex. Best sex I ever had in a casa was in the blue room with with a costeńa and I think it was her first day.

There aré a hell of a lot easier ways of getting a GFE from a hot chick in MDE than hitting the casas But hey everyone should have a hobby jajajaYou are doing it all wrong! You don't want to go to several place and sort through 100 chicks, what you do is go into the first place, pick out the ugliest ho bag you can tolerate, then simply tear it up, half the fun is spending the rest of the day contemplating what a degenerate I have become. LOL

LookingToSwing4
01-19-14, 14:38
You can now add minutes to your Colombian cell phone via Moneygram in the USAHow does this work?

LookingToSwing4
01-19-14, 14:42
Only use the white taxis at the airport, otherwise you could be getting into a gypsy cab. I always bring a pen and piece of paper with me and make sure the taxista sees me writing down the car number.Never paid much attention to the taxis upon arrival as my drivers have always been waiting for me by the time I retrieved my bags. Are these on international arrival level? Are these airport only taxis? Since I do not know what a gypsy cab is, I am curious to know why the white taxis are better choices and safe.

LookingToSwing4
01-19-14, 14:46
Good to know. Looks like there is $1. 50 charge on top of the mins. And noway to do it over the internet so you have to actually go to a MoneyGram location to put mins. On your Colombian cell phone. Lucky for me there is a location two blocks from my house that will do it.I went to the MoneyGram site, but there appears to be no Claro Colombia. Other South or Central America countries, but no Colombia. I see a Comcel Colombia which was my provider before Claro took them over.

I also see they recharge thru a service knows as EZTOP. Anyone have direct experience with EZTOP?

Carlos3000
01-19-14, 14:49
Good to know. Looks like there is $1. 50 charge on top of the mins. And noway to do it over the internet so you have to actually go to a MoneyGram location to put mins. On your Colombian cell phone. Lucky for me there is a location two blocks from my house that will do it.I use ezetop. Com to load up. It's quick and easy. There's a small charge starting at $0.88 on top of the mins.

Sailor Jim
01-19-14, 15:53
I went to the MoneyGram site, but there appears to be no Claro Colombia. Other South or Central America countries, but no Colombia. I see a Comcel Colombia which was my provider before Claro took them over.

I also see they recharge thru a service knows as EZTOP. Anyone have direct experience with EZTOP?EZTOP works. That's about it. I have used them to add $ to my SIMs and to others'. I have not used them in over 2 years.

Note. There are fees and an FX screw the customer rate. They employ verified by VISA and are carful with Credit cards so the credit card types they accept are far and few.

For an out of towner who really wants immediate cellphone access on landing:

1.) EZTOP before.

2.) If you are a frequent traveler buy a prepaid card (the providers who still have them or you can buy the prepaid card but it is a receipt, not a scratch off) and add the minutes as you are exiting the plane.

Your COL cell number may expire / be recycled and administered to someone else if it is inactive for too long. So you may be topping off someone else's phone!

Manizales911
01-19-14, 16:35
Never paid much attention to the taxis upon arrival as my drivers have always been waiting for me by the time I retrieved my bags. Are these on international arrival level? Are these airport only taxis? Since I do not know what a gypsy cab is, I am curious to know why the white taxis are better choices and safe.White cabs are vetted, licensed cabs, a gypsy cab is an unlicensed cab.

LocoGringo
01-19-14, 17:58
Never paid much attention to the taxis upon arrival as my drivers have always been waiting for me by the time I retrieved my bags. Are these on international arrival level? Are these airport only taxis? Since I do not know what a gypsy cab is, I am curious to know why the white taxis are better choices and safe.The white taxis are not licensed for tours, hotel use, and chrge a set fee. They do not have meters. Yellow taxis are metered taxis except to a / p, some other locations. The safest way is one of the many private car / drivers that have set fees. I guess writing the tag # down has some value, not sure what. 14 years, many taxis, pick one that is in good shape, make arrangements with a known

Driver.

Member #4287
01-19-14, 19:39
I went to the MoneyGram site, but there appears to be no Claro Colombia. Other South or Central America countries, but no Colombia. I see a Comcel Colombia which was my provider before Claro took them over.

I also see they recharge thru a service knows as EZTOP. Anyone have direct experience with EZTOP?Go to this link: http://www.moneygram.com/MGICorp/campaigns/mobilerecharge_en

Select Colombia and Claro is listed as one of the carriers.

LookingToSwing4
01-20-14, 01:19
The white taxis are not licensed for tours, hotel use, and chrge a set fee. They do not have meters. Yellow taxis are metered taxis except to a / p, some other locations. The safest way is one of the many private car / drivers that have set fees. I guess writing the tag # down has some value, not sure what. 14 years, many taxis, pick one that is in good shape, make arrangements with a known

Driver.Thanks. As I mentioned in my original post, I always hire a trusted and private driver to / fro the airport. Given some recent posts, I was just looking for a back-up plan if my driver was a no-show. Never happened to me, but I have friends who it has happened to. I was not sure what the value of writing down the tag # was either if it was not given to someone who could follow-up on your behalf if you did not reach your destination. Thanks.

LookingToSwing4
01-20-14, 01:23
EZTOP works. That's about it. I have used them to add $ to my SIMs and to others'. I have not used them in over 2 years.

Note. There are fees and an FX screw the customer rate. They employ verified by VISA and are carful with Credit cards so the credit card types they accept are far and few.

For an out of towner who really wants immediate cellphone access on landing:

1.) EZTOP before.

2.) If you are a frequent traveler buy a prepaid card (the providers who still have them or you can buy the prepaid card but it is a receipt, not a scratch off) and add the minutes as you are exiting the plane.

Your COL cell number may expire / be recycled and administered to someone else if it is inactive for too long. So you may be topping off someone else's phone!Thanks. Have visited regularly enough that I have had the same number for 2. 5 years. But my minutes always expire between trips. But I do like the idea of the prepaid card that I could purchase before I depart for use with my next visit. As long as these are not activated, they do not expire within a few months?

Hioctane
01-20-14, 02:26
Thanks. Have visited regularly enough that I have had the same number for 2. 5 years. But my minutes always expire between trips. But I do like the idea of the prepaid card that I could purchase before I depart for use with my next visit. As long as these are not activated, they do not expire within a few months?I used to do that before but fewer and fewer places are selling the card and most refill online for you. I prefer to top it off monthly online now so I can make sure I keep my number and the minutes don't expire.

SlamCity7777
01-20-14, 03:01
Thanks. Have visited regularly enough that I have had the same number for 2. 5 years. But my minutes always expire between trips. But I do like the idea of the prepaid card that I could purchase before I depart for use with my next visit. As long as these are not activated, they do not expire within a few months?Thanks for the tips about adding credits via moneygram. I do like dude said before. Have a girl you like / know / trust (yeah right!) put 5K in so you can hit the ground running.

Also it might be a good idea to move this to the phone topic so if anybody searches for it they can find it under the right topic.

Not trying to be a forum 50. Just a suggestion.

CaptainOrgazm0
01-20-14, 03:28
Hey guys!

This is my first report. I've been following this forum for quite some time now. It has helped me out a lot along the way. I felt like it was time to do my part and add some info to help you guys out. I been traveling to Colombia for about a decade now. I always use a company called Orbitel. They have a website where you can add minutes to any cellphone number in most of South America. I believe the minimum is ten dollars tho. But it is immediate.

Good luck

MikeKelimir
01-20-14, 16:15
Guys,

Does anyone know which stop to get off of on the metro to be nearest the cCsa Centro area?

Hioctane
01-21-14, 07:02
Moneygram charges $1.50 and eztopup charges too?

I have used uniontelecard for years. No fees and they have a 10% coupon code to boot (It's on the purchase screen). $6 minimum but I don't remember how much they make off the conversion rates.

Arctic57
01-21-14, 14:23
Guys,

Does anyone know which stop to get off of on the metro to be nearest the cCsa Centro area?The parque Berras stop will get you close. You then just walk directly away from the metro and find your way to the left if you want to find New Life for example. The street numbers will ascend as you head to the left and toward the mountains. Hope this helps. I was a little disoriented the first time.

Arctic57
01-21-14, 14:34
I am headed to la piscina in estadio this weekend. Anyone who has had experience with this, please pm me or post. My other experiences in the swing community in the US have been very mixed with most of the women way past their prime, kinda like me. I am taking a lovely black woman with me and I am a bit concerned about racism, as there seems to be some, although maybe more regarding class. One of the guys at the mansion said he went with a chica and had a great time.

I will report after we go there.

Anyone who is interested in putting together a group thing, please pm me. I am in Colombia until mid March.

MdeJohn
01-21-14, 15:24
Guys,

Does anyone know which stop to get off of on the metro to be nearest the cCsa Centro area?Toss up between Parque Berrio and Prado. Parque Berrio is closer to the strip clubs while Prado is probably marginally closer to most of the casas.

Lucas1982
01-21-14, 19:14
Just arrived in Medellin yesterday and would prefer some company to hit the clubs together. I will be here until Sunday. Please hit me up.

El Bacano
01-21-14, 22:21
Men, I find the Metro a delightful place to practice my pickup techniques. Many a time have I sparked up a convo on the railway, with a regular girl I might add, and may or may not lead to more. Theres no place in Medellin where I don't keep a good lookout for a beauty. Another thing to keep in mind would be the attitude, you have have to be open at all times.

Member #4244
01-21-14, 22:49
Guys,

Does anyone know which stop to get off of on the metro to be nearest the cCsa Centro area?Parque Berrio perhaps? The one over by el Museo de Antioquia and all those Botero sculptures. You just walk up Maracaibo or La Playa or any of those and you're right in the heart of it.

Artisttyp
01-22-14, 02:32
well it's been getting better for me in the casas for the most part. i've been to at least three new ones which had decent offerings. my only complaint with the casas is bbbj seems to lean more on the no side these days. i usually ask them what they do and don't do in the room and most answers i've been getting is not without a rubber. loud and clear. i've had a few but they happened througout the week here and there. someone in town for a few days may not get so lucky.

i've gotten the 2k or buy a drink rant at some casas but i can't say that i disagree. when i go to a casa i do so with the intention of having sex. unless the line up is so bad i usually pick someone.

coffee shop:

cra. 45 el palo no. 55-45 tel 254 52 34.

old stand by from back a few years ago. i've always had a good time here and most girls are willing to work with you on extras. at least that has been my experience. 37k for the half hour. i went with a very pretty east indian looking girl named daniella. some of the indian looking women here resemble women from india which really turns me on. she has one of those faces.

she offered bbbj for 25k more but i did not accept. i kept it at dfk daty and buttlick.

the line up was decent.

barcelona : calle 59 no 50-12 tel 2542994.

40k for 30 minutes. i walked in and asked how many chicas they had. they said two so i was about to leave until they convinced me to see the line up. well lets say two beautiful women presented themselves to me. this was the most impressive line up yet for me. i have not been to new life yet. however for a low end casa i was very pleased. i chose the marvelous joanna who had the total porn star look going on. white translucent skin jet black hair and bright red lipstick. no to bbbj but just licking her snatch and butt was quite a treat.

being so impressed with barcelona i decided to try their affiliate casa las kamasutras cale 57a no. 46-29 barbacoa y oriental tel 3217836027. promociones starting at 20k.

complete disaster! so different from their sister casa. this is the place i gladly payed the 2k to get leave. although if someone is more service oriented this could be a great place to get your pig on. i doubt these girls are making any money.

yakusa:

cra. 50a no 53-38 tel 231 7171 40k 30min.

decent line up for a grungy casa. i chose a beautiful 18 year old valentina. no babies marks olive brown skin and knock out face. no bbbj but just sliding up in a beauty like that without her puking on me was excellent. service was decent for what it was. daty and buttlick on the menu.

mayorista :

the nail has been driven into the coffin if you ask me. i went out there last week and no tables outdoors minus the diner up the block. all hotels i inquired had prices of 20k for 30 minute room time plus chica fee of roughly 30k makes mayorista less appealing than ever. i guess you could still pick a girl up and take her to your apartment etc. but as fas as on site goes unless you really need to do someone specific there a much better offerings elsewhere in the casas and on the streets.

streets :

been doing some street action. nowhere special just picking up as i walk around centro. here i've gotten some really good bbbj cim sessions. so i've been saving the bjs for this scene and enjoying feliz buttlicks in the casas. prices have been all over the place but never past 30k.

i did get beat once. i made an arrangement for bbbj etc. and she does it for one minute then stops and says there you go. i get up ready to throw half the money down and walk out but she flexes her muscles and wants to brawl for the other half. so i ball up the money and threw it across the room and we exchange insults as i get dressed.

the streets can be very freaking dangerous here. a lot of people have knifes so you must be on your highest guard.

at the same time i met a girl on another street who only comes out on friday nights and she rocked my world for 30k. she even licked the cum off my penis.

the street is a total crap shoot and similar pricing to the casas but service varies greatly.

strip clubs:

been focusing on the low end centro ones. managed to do a 40k session in one bbbj cim for 40k. girl beers cost 5k (small size) yours 4k. rooms are hidden in back and hot as shit. no fans and you will be peeing in a shower and you will be washing your hands in the same place. be thankful for it. i found myself a nice little low end tramp at one of these places. i will continue to explore them.

the usual ones like ejecutiva and maracaibo have been extremely disappointing as fas as talent goes.

tomorrow i have a date lined up with a stripper from conejitas who i met last friday. she said it was her first night there. i plan on taking her to eros love motel on calle 53 de grieff. great little short term hotel with nice ammenities.

food still sucks for the most part (minus lunch in poblado) but the butt and fresh fruit juice for a pittance sure makes up for it.

i've been averaging roughly $65/75 a day. it gets me two sessions all the booze i can drink fruits and munchies / cigs.

i can't complain too much.

Red Eye Fish
01-22-14, 03:49
Artesanias is a daytime hangout bar 10 am-5 pm not a typical casa like new life where the girls would be introduced and than disappear to the back. Instead you go up stair where there is tables / chairs and sofa to seat and chill with a beer. Girls would sit around and you can have a beer and talk to one before doing the deed if you want to. Cost is 12 k for room and 40 k for 30 mins. More $ if you want 1 hour. 15 girls on most occasion to choose from. Mostly local Colombian guys hanging out to drink and they talk to the girls and leave without doing the deeds.

Member #4244
01-22-14, 03:58
Thanks for the updates, Valentina sounds very interesting.

In the end, never get too heated over a dispute with money. Just be firm. You are in complete control of the situation. If she insists, just go about your business like she wasn't even there. Eventually she will get bored and fuck off. What is the point of getting upset?

When you say "low-end" casas, you mean the ones over by Conejitas in that area, right? An example would be the ironically named Hilton. I find those places are certainly cheap-they ask 40K and will probably settle for 20K-but I find the whole hygiene questionable, both the girls and the establishments. It's not exactly a hospital inside the Barra Ejecutiva or even San Diego, but there is at least a varying degree of comfort and cleanliness that I didn't see at the real cheap places. Street action is about the same price and you can bring it home to your own place.

Sailor Jim
01-22-14, 15:30
I did get beat once. I made an arrangement for BBBJ etc. And she does it for one minute then stops and says there you go. I get up ready to throw half the money down and walk out but she flexes her muscles and wants to brawl for the other half. So I ball up the money and threw it across the room and we exchange insults as I get dressed.

The streets can be very freaking dangerous here. A lot of people have knifes so you must be on your highest guard.I usually don't ask for just BBBJ, too vague.

But when / if I do, I ask if she will let me come in her mouth with no condom. This way there is no confusion.

I will ask if I have chemistry with the girl and she seems to be opening up on the 2nd or 3rd session.

By the way awesome post, thanks!

Ricker
01-22-14, 15:52
Artesanias is a daytime hangout bar 10 am-5 pm not a typical casa like new life where the girls would be introduced and than disappear to the back. Instead you go up stair where there is tables / chairs and sofa to seat and chill with a beer. Girls would sit around and you can have a beer and talk to one before doing the deed if you want to. Cost is 12 k for room and 40 k for 30 mins. More $ if you want 1 hour. 15 girls on most occasion to choose from. Mostly local Colombian guys hanging out to drink and they talk to the girls and leave without doing the deeds.

Is this still the correct address for Artesanias?

Artesanias, Calle 61 (Moore) #53-78, piso 2. 15 Chicas. Prices: 7k Room. 70k Chica. Tel: 512 06 59. Hours: Monday to Sunday. 10 am to 5 pm.

Thanks!

Artisttyp
01-22-14, 18:10
Is this still the correct address for Artesanias?

Artesanias, Calle 61 (Moore) #53-78, piso 2. 15 Chicas. Prices: 7k Room. 70k Chica. Tel: 512 06 59. Hours: Monday to Sunday. 10 am to 5 pm.

Thanks!I can check this out and get back to you on it.

As far as session issues I ALWAYS negotiate everything first but sometimes you run into road blocks in the room. What I do feel uncomfortable about is walking away with my tail between my legs. I won't do it in a latin country. They wouldn't do it to a local guy because they know they wouldn't stand for it. Although gringos are defenseless I do believe in letting a chica feel a similar rub. Maybe it will alert her for future experiences that not all gringos let it go so easily.

I would never go past a verbal assault though.

Artisttyp
01-22-14, 18:12
When you say "low-end" casas, you mean the ones over by Conejitas in that area, right?Some casas are nicer than others when comparing rooms and facilities. I was refering to lower key operations with crappy rooms. I have no idea if there are casas around Conejitas. Lots of bars and clubs though.

Red Eye Fish
01-22-14, 18:21
Is this still the correct address for Artesanias?

Artesanias, Calle 61 (Moore) #53-78, piso 2. 15 Chicas. Prices: 7k Room. 70k Chica. Tel: 512 06 59. Hours: Monday to Sunday. 10 am to 5 pm.

Thanks!The address and casa map to it is correct you just have to look for #53-78 on the door sign. Price has gone up a little for inflation.

Member #4244
01-22-14, 19:05
Typo on my part, I mean low-end strip clubs, not low-end casas.

Coffee House (or Shop, I forget) and a couple other casas are pretty close to Conejitas, but I wasn't referring to those anyway, I meant the 40K peso strip joints there.

It's sad to hear that the Mayo has gotten even shittier but I gave up on it a long time ago anyway.

Member #4287
01-22-14, 19:45
I can check this out and get back to you on it.

As far as session issues I ALWAYS negotiate everything first but sometimes you run into road blocks in the room. What I do feel uncomfortable about is walking away with my tail between my legs. I won't do it in a latin country. They wouldn't do it to a local guy because they know they wouldn't stand for it. Although gringos are defenseless I do believe in letting a chica feel a similar rub. Maybe it will alert her for future experiences that not all gringos let it go so easily.

I would never go past a verbal assault though.Aside from a chick just saying "no" to every extra you ask for and by providing very poor service. Just how can a chica in one of these casas stop from having sex with a guy she just doesn't want to be with?

I think the goal should be to try and not get naked with a chick that just doesn't want to be with you. Personally I have no idea how someone would accomplish that with the way most casas are set up and the limited amount of contact you have with them beforehand.

I think that guys going to these low end casas that are looking for more than something to stick their dick in for 30 mins. Are probably going to be disappointed more times than not at these places.

MdeJohn
01-22-14, 21:31
My only complaint with the casas is BBBJ seems to lean more on the NO side these days. I usually ask them what they do and don't do in the room and most answers I've been getting is NOT WITHOUT a rubber. Loud and clear.A few talking about this in recent posts. I've never had much luck with BBBJ CIM in clubs or casas without sessioning at least a couple of times. I usually just try to find a girl with a willing personality and good looking then try her out for 30 mins. If she is decent then add her to a list of girls to call. Take a girl out for a dinner and she will usually do just about anything.

Have taken a street girl every once in a while but usually not worth the risk. There's a reason they work the street instead of a casa / club.

Jet69
01-22-14, 22:57
Sorry to hear the Mayo is declining. Clearly the street is not for everyone, but my two stops in October were fun. I enjoyed walking and checking it all out and was entertained for a few hours. Never pulled from the area, but will go back just to be entertained by the seedier side. Everyone should see it once, especially those that hole up at the Mansion. I would not go alone but with a wingman, it is / was worthwhile. Later at night, other than strip clubs there is limited stuff to do. Mayorista was always a fallback. Hoping to check out some dance clubs this next trip. I am not afraid to jump in with the locals and have fun, but being in my 50's, may find it harder to get accepted? Not trying to pick up woman, just watching having some fun. Any suggestions for disco fever?

Hioctane
01-23-14, 01:03
aside from a chick just saying "no" to every extra you ask for and by providing very poor service. just how can a chica in one of these casas stop from having sex with a guy she just doesn't want to be with?

i think the goal should be to try and not get naked with a chick that just doesn't want to be with you. personally i have no idea how someone would accomplish that with the way most casas are set up and the limited amount of contact you have with them beforehand.

i think that guys going to these low end casas that are looking for more than something to stick their dick in for 30 mins. are probably going to be disappointed more times than not at these places.these chicks are there to make money. they are not being picky about who they fuck. sometimes they will peek out to make sure it's not someone they know but aside from that. why would they not want to be with someone? worse case they would spread their legs and stare at the wall for 30 minutes (seen that happen). the only services that are guaranteed on the menu is cbj and cfs. everything else it up to her.

Manny51
01-23-14, 05:18
Aside from a chick just saying "no" to every extra you ask for and by providing very poor service. Just how can a chica in one of these casas stop from having sex with a guy she just doesn't want to be with?

I think the goal should be to try and not get naked with a chick that just doesn't want to be with you. Personally I have no idea how someone would accomplish that with the way most casas are set up and the limited amount of contact you have with them beforehand.

I think that guys going to these low end casas that are looking for more than something to stick their dick in for 30 mins. Are probably going to be disappointed more times than not at these places.I have never been to a Casa in Medellin, but I can imagine how it would not be a good scenario. Hookup bars, or venues like the Mansion, give you an opportunity to assess your vibe with her. Since she really can't say no, the casa experience would seem too "transactional" to me.

Member #4287
01-23-14, 08:19
I have never been to a Casa in Medellin, but I can imagine how it would not be a good scenario. Hookup bars, or venues like the Mansion, give you an opportunity to assess your vibe with her. Since she really can't say no, the casa experience would seem too "transactional" to me.In all fairness, not every experience that I have had in a casa has been a bad one. I have had some decent experiences in the higher end casas along with a few that I were less than satisfactory. I guess the thing I don't really get is how anyone can complain. The way it is setup. Makes it such a crap shoot with really no opportunity of improving your odds.

MdeJohn
01-23-14, 17:34
Hoping to check out some dance clubs this next trip. I am not afraid to jump in with the locals and have fun, but being in my 50's, may find it harder to get accepted? Not trying to pick up woman, just watching having some fun. Any suggestions for disco fever?Depends on what type of club you like. For the rave / dance / techno atmosphere, 'Blue' is a decent club on Calle 10 a couple of blocks down from the park. There are also a few of these kind of clubs around Parque Lleras though I haven't been. There are also some raves / techno-type clubs around industriales as well. Might try stopping by Liquid Lounge (also in industriales) and asking some of the girls there where the clubs are in the area.

For the more traditional salsa or latin club, La setenta (Avenida 70) is your best bet. Take the metro to the Estadio stop which is directly on 70th, then right (away from the stadium) and all down the street you will find these bar / dance clubs. It is much more local than Lleras so you'll need some spanish. Calle 33 also has some of these kinds of clubs as well but you won't find the music variety or nearly the number of places.

No worries on your age. It's not uncommon to see a guy that is at least 10 years older than his girlfriend and most will dance / talk with men much older just to have fun.

SavePros321
01-23-14, 22:37
Hoping to check out some dance clubs this next trip. I am not afraid to jump in with the locals and have fun, but being in my 50's, may find it harder to get accepted? Not trying to pick up woman, just watching having some fun. Any suggestions for disco fever?Maybe you should try the bar scene on La 70 or La 33.

Ricardo Torres
01-24-14, 02:17
these chicks are there to make money. they are not being picky about who they fuck. sometimes they will peek out to make sure it's not someone they know but aside from that. why would they not want to be with someone? worse case they would spread their legs and stare at the wall for 30 minutes (seen that happen). the only services that are guaranteed on the menu is cbj and cfs. everything else it up to her.you are so wrong! believe me appearance and hygiene matters quite a bit to most of these girls despite the fact they are in this profession.

Aussie Greg
01-24-14, 04:56
I guess Tweedle has told his misses and her friends to cover up!

AG.

QUOTE=MdeJohn; 1522713]A few talking about this in recent posts. I've never had much luck with BBBJ CIM in clubs or casas without sessioning at least a couple of times. I usually just try to find a girl with a willing personality and good looking then try her out for 30 mins. If she is decent then add her to a list of girls to call. Take a girl out for a dinner and she will usually do just about anything.

Have taken a street girl every once in a while but usually not worth the risk. There's a reason they work the street instead of a casa / club.[/QUOTE]

Aussie Greg
01-24-14, 05:07
does anybody know the address in el centrol where they only cater for "[CodeWord101] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord101)"!

a. g.

TweedleD
01-24-14, 07:49
does anybody know the address in el centrol where they only cater for "[CodeWord101] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord101)"!

a. g.greg, contact this guy, he should be able to take care of you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2srovkhf0w

Black Page
01-24-14, 15:20
does anybody know the address in el centrol where they only cater for "[CodeWord101] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord101)"!

a. g.cl. 55a con cr. 50? but only after midnight.

Manny51
01-24-14, 18:14
does anybody know the address in el centrol where they only cater for "[CodeWord101] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord101)"!

a. g.holy crap. is there really that kind of place available? lol. i assume that you are the one giving the shower and not getting it.

Artisttyp
01-24-14, 18:43
For those interested in the soccer team Nacional is selling the new 2014 merchandise today in the official team store. I can think of two right now:

1. Edificio Cotejer Playas Y Junin up the stairs

2. Take metro towards San Javier and get off on Estadio. Walk past the stadium and the Obelisco until you come to a shopping mall crossing the street. I believe there is a Kokorico sigb. Teal store Atletica Nacional is downstairs to your right.

Hats by Nike for 45K jerseys only up to size xl for roughly 110K (not sure) a few other things as well but don't expect the NFL store with tons of cool merchandise.


Typing on my BB sorry for the typos.

Member #4287
01-24-14, 20:17
worse case they would spread their legs and stare at the wall for 30 minutes (seen that happen). the only services that are guaranteed on the menu is cbj and cfs.exactly what some of us are trying hard to avoid. nothing worst than banging on a chick that doesn't let out a peep and stares at the wall and the sad thing is it really can't be avoided in places like the centro casas.

i understand that some guys don't mind that and just want to get a nut. and some of the unluckier guys get that type of service no matter where they go or how much they pay so cheaper is almost always better.

Superboy1
01-24-14, 21:29
CL. 55A con Cr. 50? But only after midnight.What about [CodeWord135] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord135)? I hear some Colombia girls do that kind of thing for the right money.

Arjay
01-24-14, 21:31
does anybody know the address in el centrol where they only cater for "[CodeWord101] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord101)"!

a. g.seriously greg giving or receiving. never mind answering but, mileroticos site has some chicas offering this service. good luck.

NavDude
01-24-14, 21:58
I am planning my first trip to Medellin maybe Cartagena. I have been to Sosua in DR if anyone has been and I love the layout where everything is in walking distance 5, 10 minutes max. And everythng is pretty fairly priced food, hotel, girls. I remember paying the equivalent of $35 for st and $50 for lt or tln. But aside for the bargain prices I like not having to take a taxi to go anywhere because

Sosua is so small. Also is there anywhere like a main club not massage parlor the girls hangout at night an actual club in Medellin. I don 't fancy the massage parlors too much. Looking for something comparable maybe other places are different. Any help would be appreciated.

Black Page
01-24-14, 23:18
What about [CodeWord135] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord135)? I hear some Colombia girls do that kind of thing for the right money.Try to go to bars and houses at CL. 55A con Cr. 50 and ask around, but not before midnight. I am not sure anybody speaks English there. I'd like to hear back.

Member #4244
01-24-14, 23:26
For those interested in the soccer team Nacional is selling the new 2014 merchandise today in the official team store. I can think of two right now:

1. Edificio Cotejer Playas Y Junin up the stairs

2. Take metro towards San Javier and get off on Estadio. Walk past the stadium and the Obelisco until you come to a shopping mall crossing the street. I believe there is a Kokorico sigb. Teal store Atletica Nacional is downstairs to your right.

Hats by Nike for 45K jerseys only up to size xl for roughly 110K (not sure) a few other things as well but don't expect the NFL store with tons of cool merchandise.

Typing on my BB sorry for the typos.The jerseys are typically 140K-170K COP depending if they are long or short sleeve.

The fact that they don't make XXL jerseys is puzzling. So many people ask for them. The European clubs all have 2X and often 3X, heck Adidas makes some really huge ones now. The players are thin, but a lot of the fans are fat.

Artisttyp
01-25-14, 01:19
What about [CodeWord135] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord135)? I hear some Colombia girls do that kind of thing for the right money.I'd do it for a shot of tequila!

Member #4244
01-25-14, 01:40
You are so wrong! Believe me appearance and hygiene matters quite a bit to most of these girls despite the fact they are in this profession.Well he did acknowledge it matters for anything uncovered and other extras, but yes, I would go a step further. I dated a girl who had a friend that worked at a casa, sometimes we'd go by there and bullshit with the girls. In maybe a half hour sitting there, five clients would arrive and at least one of them would have girls look with one eye out the curtain and pass on a presentation.

I don't think it's that common, but that was my only experience in the little lounge area on the other side of the curtain so maybe it is.

I had fun back there as the only dude among a bunch of cute teenies in silk robes (or less).

Anyway, YMMV is a very real concept. Don't be a slob. You also make the rest of us look bad LOL.

Always Randy
01-25-14, 02:56
You sound like a budget traveller. But you are staying in el poblado?

If you want to save real money especially if you're traveling by yourself, take the airport bus service which costs around 8k to el centro behind hotel Nutibara. But will stop anywhere in-between.

Have fun and make a report about your experience. This thread benefits from newbies' experiences. So don't take it for granted.You can find boutique hotels in El Poblado on Expedia for about $50 to $70 USD.

Not a newbie. This was our 4th or 5th time to Medellin.

It was only a 2 and half day stop. Went to Centro to check out a few casas, New Life had an impressive line up of about 20 chicas but only two interested us slightly. We didn't partake. Went to two other casas around corner, don't know their names. One was the old Belle Suites years ago with an older man running it, then later became an ice cream shop fronting the casa behind but for the last two years, the ice cream shop is now gone. Didn't see any chica we wanted. It was partly because we were anticipating later that night. One casa wanted to charge 2 mill to see the line up but if you order a drink, the charge was waived.

My wing and I made arrangements with our chica friends from previous Cartagena trips that live in Medellin. Both of them came to our hotel rooms on Thursday night and good times were had in our respective rooms. Tried to arrange for more on Friday but coincidently neither of them could make it. It was funny when both chicas met because they had a surprised look on their faces recognizing each other from LDV in Cartagena.

On Friday, did not make it out to the Mayorista this time as planned. Figured it would be a downer compared to the GFE we had just experienced the night before.

I forgot to bring the number of a taxi driver I used last year. When we left, our hotel called an airport taxi as for a few moments, there were no regular yellow cabs passing us on the street to hail. From Parque Lleras, we were charged a fixed fare of 60, 000 COP.

I'd still highly recommend the collectivo taxi when coming from the airport and the easy transfer to a local taxi in San Diego. It was very fast, safe, and efficient.

DrWasabee
01-25-14, 17:13
I was heading there Superbowl weekend and was wondering if anyone knew of any place I could place a bet for the Superbowl just PM if you have info.

SavePros321
01-25-14, 20:27
I am planning my first trip to Medellin maybe Cartagena. I have been to Sosua in DR if anyone has been and I love the layout where everything is in walking distance 5, 10 minutes max. And everythng is pretty fairly priced food, hotel, girls. I remember paying the equivalent of $35 for st and $50 for lt or tln. But aside for the bargain prices I like not having to take a taxi to go anywhere because Sosua is so small.Sounds like your best bet would be to continue to go to Sosua. None of what you mentioned exists in Medellin.


I remember paying the equivalent of $35 for st and $50 for lt or tln.

I don 't fancy the massage parlors too muchYou are not going to find anything in that price range outside of the Casas and massage parlors in Medellin. Freelance chicas start at anywhere from 150k-300k (COP). Probably double that for Cartagena.

I quoted at the 150k range because as a newbie to MDE your best bet would be to stay somewhere like the mansion. You probably will not be pulling any chicas outside of that venue, especially if you speak little to no Spanish.


Also is there anywhere like a main club not massage parlor the girls hangout at night an actual club in Medellin.No. The closet thing would have been Liquid Lounge, but it is now a strip club (Liquid Strip).

Honestly, if you are looking for a place where you can walk to everything and meet chicas in a freelance bar (like Rumba and D'Latin in Sosua) , you may want to look into San Jose, Costa Rica. That's as about as close as you can get.

Also, if you love it when all (chica) eyes are on you as you walk down the strip in Sosua, be prepared for a HUGE ego deflation in Medellin. Just doesn't happen here.

Member #4244
01-25-14, 20:58
You can find freelances for $15 to $50 USD, but you will need Spanish and some patience. Overall, yes, $50-$200 USD is what you can expect to pay using an escort service or getting recs or using the mansion girls.

Member #4287
01-25-14, 22:00
Also is there anywhere like a main club not massage parlor the girls hangout at night an actual club in Medellin. I don 't fancy the massage parlors too much. Looking for something comparable maybe other places are different. Any help would be appreciated.Discotecafahrenheit. Com lots of prepagos and strippers in this club after 2am its usually open until 6am I'd suggest you take a spanish speaking wing to do the approachs and sepárate the prepagos from the normal chicks. Karen Flux from the mansion is good at it

Jonesie
01-26-14, 03:17
Phoenix Rising and I are meeting up at Patrick's in Parque Lleras for dinner Friday night. All are welcome.

There will very likely be various after dinner adventures hatched in the process.

We're both taking rookie wings on casa runs Friday and Saturday. So the more the merrier. I'll likely meet up and have lunch at Eat Me on Calle 8 and then head downtown from there on both days.

Knowledge
01-26-14, 14:31
I am not sure you would like Medellín. It is a major city that does not survive on tourists and punters. Most people you will run into are going about their business and that business will rarely involve you. Maybe you visited Santo Domingo, that would give you an idea of the difference. If you do go, you seem like a good customer for the mansion / castle. Everything is in walking distance, you don't even have to leave the property.


I am planning my first trip to Medellin maybe Cartagena. I have been to Sosua in DR if anyone has been and I love the layout where everything is in walking distance 5, 10 minutes max. And everythng is pretty fairly priced food, hotel, girls. I remember paying the equivalent of $35 for st and $50 for lt or tln. But aside for the bargain prices I like not having to take a taxi to go anywhere because

Sosua is so small. Also is there anywhere like a main club not massage parlor the girls hangout at night an actual club in Medellin. I don 't fancy the massage parlors too much. Looking for something comparable maybe other places are different. Any help would be appreciated.

Artisttyp
01-26-14, 14:56
Fuck "national" they are a team of maricas, there is only one team in Medellin and that's the red team DIM!

AG.


For those interested in the soccer team Nacional is selling the new 2014 merchandise today in the official team store. I can think of two right now:

1. Edificio Cotejer Playas Y Junin up the stairs

2. Take metro towards San Javier and get off on Estadio. Walk past the stadium and the Obelisco until you come to a shopping mall crossing the street. I believe there is a Kokorico sigb. Teal store Atletica Nacional is downstairs to your right.

Hats by Nike for 45K jerseys only up to size xl for roughly 110K (not sure) a few other things as well but don't expect the NFL store with tons of cool merchandise.

Typing on my BB sorry for the typos.Unfortunately the DIM doesn't have any decent merchandise. For some reason Nacional gets all the promotion. Can anyone tell me why? It seems like DIM is the local favorite.

SeizeTheDay
01-26-14, 16:49
Unfortunately the DIM doesn't have any decent merchandise. For some reason Nacional gets all the promotion. Can anyone tell me why? It seems like DIM is the local favorite.[/QUOTE]My guess would be, because Atletico Nacional has the better team and is sponsored by Nike and Postobon. It also does not hurt to win, which Nacional is better at doing.

Artisttyp
01-26-14, 18:26
I came to the cross roads with the casas yesterday. At least I thought I did until today. My luck has been 50/50 with getting decent sessions in the casas. Mind you I only use them to eat pussy and lick ass. Choosing only the highest quality they have. Otherwise who wants to do vanilla sex with an average chica who doesn't BBBJ? Not my style.

Anyways the run down :

Sarita.

Calle 55 (Peru) No. 43-72 Piso 2 Entre El Palo Y Giradot Tel 239-33-45.

* Same owners and management of COFFEE SHOP which I had previously mentioned. I like the management! I also like the selection they had. 3 girls and 3 girls I would do. Unfortunately I chose the one that answered the door but afterwards I saw the other two. NICE but a little on the heavy side. Gringos looking for flacitas won't be happy but guys who lean towards the pretty girl next door type with meat will like this place.

I went with Illiana 37K / 30 minutes. Buttlick and DATY no problem. SHE had a good time with me.

This place and Coffee Shop would be good placed to plant a few seeds. IMO you have the potential to work things out in these places. I could be wrong but the energy is there and the vibes are right.

New Life :

Calle 56 (Bolivia) No. 43-39 (not 29 as per matts list) Piso 2 38K / 30 min.

Decent line up. About as well rounded as it gets for centro casas. Not my favorite place from the past because the vibe is all business. No saludos or "welcome" vibe at all. I chose a tall stunner named Jimena. She could easily be a model. Buttlick and DATY no problem. She wanted to talk shop and BBBJ propinas (20K) but I squashed it before it festered. I told her just the tongue action.

The problem with agreeing to a propina for BBBJ in the room is she can give you a lackluster BBBJ for a minute or two and say "there you go" and you are out the propina and you leave frustrated. Why leave yourself open to that. If you agree before you get into the room it would be a little better but again you just don't know. Some girls I've been able to get through it by saying your propina will reflect your service. Alot though will argue that you give an exact price. You decide if you want to gamble.

A lot of these girls will try to BS you in the room with extras but my penis can't take the stress of it. It makes me go limp in a heartbeat. I use the streets for BBBJs. Maybe next week I will repeat at some casas and try it out as an experiment and will report back.

Service was rather deadfish but I had my tongue in some nice quality snatch. Mission accomplished.

Solo Fantasias (Next door to Chicaspuntocom)

Calle 54 No. 49-97 Piso 3.

Centro Comercial Boulevar Caracas Tel 2318353.

33K / 30 min (?)

Looked at the line up yesterday and they had maybe 6 girls. A little higher in quality than chicaspuntocom. Next door. I was surprised with how busy it was with locals on a Saturday. I was going to choose a girl but the locals were annoying the shit out of me asking me trivial questions and practicing their pigeon english with me that I snuck out. No 2K payment.

Would I go back? Probably not since I only have a week left but IMO this and chicaspuntocom could be a good place for someone to get their pig on with very average girls who might be willing to go the distance compared to the prettier girls in other casas.

Management was very friendly in both these places.

Masajes Sexi 2:

I've already discussed this place in a previous post. I liked it so I went back and choose a brown beauty named Tatiana. F this C. We negotiated DATY and Buttlick. Then we start going and she clenches my head between her thighs and I struggle to get my tongue in her snatch. Bad News! She says "Hey do you like BJs? I give good ones". Got up wiped my mouth and proceeded to lay on my back and she goes for the condom. I said forget it lets get back to licking and she wants to talk. She wants to talk about why I don't like covered BJs etc. Calm and collected I told her that the room is for Puro Sexo and nothing else should be discussed while having sex. This upset Tatiana because she really wanted to talk. Anyways my dick got limp and I told her forget it. Got dressed and walked out after mentioning something to the mamasan.

Don't write this place off though. I think it was just bad luck or bad choosing on my part.

* Also be advised that next to the waiting area they have a high tech camera system in the next room. I am not clear whether they have audio streaming live but the girl mentioned something like she was being watched when she is in the waiting area.

Went to Liquids last night to see the place. Very nicely decorated and warm reception from AV8R. Good luck to you and I hope to visit you on a return trip. More than likely I will show up for the Superbowl Party.

My date with the conejitas strip club girl fell through. WHY? She usually works in Poblado but was slumming it downtown because she needed money. She told me she knows the Mansion ans she usually charges 200K plus 50K for the room but she would do me for 70K. Same price as it would be in Conejitas. I passsed on her and gave her 20K for transportation. The main reason was she wouldn't do BBBJ for any amount of money and she would have probably been a dead F since she is used to getting an EXORBENT amount of money for doing almost nothing.

However for you guys that like to play vanilla and pay up the wazoo for it I leave you with her number.

Juanita-3015868606 Say you met her in Parque LLeras or you were referred by another gringo. Do Not mention my name. I am giving you guys this information out of courtesy.

Luisa- 3003224880 Dark Brown low end street girl that works at Taberna Hilton. Did BBBJ CIM with me on the first session. Caution she will want to session in the club for security reasons. She gets downtown at roughly 2pm.

Tatiana- 3207675166 Street Girl on 53 De Grieff. Tight carmel skinned flaquita that is dying for me to call her but she is a little too sharp for me. She asks for money after you buy her a drink. The right guy could control her but I don't like to put that much energy into it.

* I posted these numbers for guys who are savy enough to know how to work the phone. You did not get the numbers from me. All were referred to you by previous customers. Some guys like to play the phone game. Have fun but I am not responsible for the outcome.

Otherwise I am drinking Tequila 420 up the wazoo (!) and my milk is drying up. At some point this week I will probably switch over to the street scene for some grittier action that the casas cannot provide.

But then again the streets are very much 50/50. You need to be ready to walk and lose a bit of money in either the casas or streets.

Those mongers that stay down here for a few weeks will come out on top and will have enough good sessions to make up for the bad ones. Guys who come down for only a few days need to do their homework and plan accordingly.

Trudging through centro with blisters on my feet. Swallowing not chewing my food due to lack of taste. Yours truly.

Artisttyp

Legal Tender
01-26-14, 20:48
Fuck "national" they are a team of maricas, there is only one team in Medellin and that's the red team DIM!

AG.[/QUOTE]AG is understated, as usual. I doubt that many who read thread have ever been to futbol game in Medellin. Both National and DIM have devoted and energetic fans. There is nothing like the energy there. American football or basketball doesn't even close.

As an aside, the last game that I saw was National vs. Sao Paulo. With my Colombian amigo and his "10" wife (with half his extended family) decided to take the metro. When you got to be in the third level of folks lined up to get on, and the doors opened, you were pushed on the train. As luck would have it, jammed right against my dick was this rather exotic looking girl in her early 20's. I kept thinking that her huge breast must be au naturale because of how they juggled on the train. I mentioned to my friend, in English, that "if I knew I was going to be so close to this beautiful woman, I would have brought flowers." At that moment the train stopped and she turned around and said: "Do you want my cell number, gringo?"

You never know what's going to happen in Medellin.

Only good energy!

Arjay
01-26-14, 23:47
Seriously Greg giving or receiving. Never mind answering but, mileroticos site has some chicas offering this service. Good luck.
Seriously Greg giving or receiving. Never mind answering but, mileroticos site has some chicas offering this service. Good luck.Here you go Greg no need to travel. Domicillos! http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/acompanamientos-a-swingersservicio-a-parejasmasajesanallluvia-doradapros/1239748/

SlamCity7777
01-27-14, 00:06
No way! That did not happen! Fucking Awesome bro! Right on! I hope you put on your cowboy boots and got that celly!

I could not agree with you more! Life happens when you let it!

Por ejemplo:

This past summer I was at a golf / bachelor party, every dude was drooling over the beer cart girl. She was 19years old and white girl hot! Blond hair, blue eyes, stacked! I played it slow and low, just being nice, respectful, and cool. On the back 9 We bumped up to the 4some behind us. Some dude threw the most weak game at this girl! Like Popeye sans spinach weak! I make a joke about it to her and was like "It must be so creepy having these slops trying to chat you up!" and she was like "I know right!" Dropped her a fat tip $20 and told to her track us down every other hole and the Guest of Honor when not with us and was to ignore everybody esle that want in our group.

At the end of the event she pulls up to me and the boy in the parking lot, said thanks for being so cool and hooking her up, ect. Got that number and we be fucking a week later. All the married dudes (pretty much all of them!) dropped their jaws! They could not believe I did what I did and that she came up to me to chat after her shift.

You just got to let it happen!


AG is understated, as usual. I doubt that many who read thread have ever been to futbol game in Medellin. Both National and DIM have devoted and energetic fans. There is nothing like the energy there. American football or basketball doesn't even close.

As an aside, the last game that I saw was National vs. Sao Paulo. With my Colombian amigo and his "10" wife (with half his extended family) decided to take the metro. When you got to be in the third level of folks lined up to get on, and the doors opened, you were pushed on the train. As luck would have it, jammed right against my dick was this rather exotic looking girl in her early 20's. I kept thinking that her huge breast must be au naturale because of how they juggled on the train. I mentioned to my friend, in English, that "if I knew I was going to be so close to this beautiful woman, I would have brought flowers." At that moment the train stopped and she turned around and said: "Do you want my cell number, gringo?"

You never know what's going to happen in Medellin.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]

Vegas Jeff
01-27-14, 00:13
I have never been to a Casa in Medellin, but I can imagine how it would not be a good scenario. Hookup bars, or venues like the Mansion, give you an opportunity to assess your vibe with her. Since she really can't say no, the casa experience would seem too "transactional" to me.
The problem with agreeing to a propina for BBBJ in the room is she can give you a lackluster BBBJ for a minute or two and say "there you go" and you are out the propina and you leave frustrated. Why leave yourself open to that. If you agree before you get into the room it would be a little better but again you just don't know. Some girls I've been able to get through it by saying your propina will reflect your service. Alot though will argue that you give an exact price. You decide if you want to gamble.ArtisttypI have been reading on here recently alot of talk about the average quality experiences in the El Centro casas. There are a few important things IMO that will get you great experiences in the casas.

First, go in with the mindset that you will see at least 5-10 places. There are over 30 in El Centro and 5-10 within 3 blocks of New Life.

Second, dress in normal Colombian clothes and wear cologne. I have most girls smell my shirt so they can smell the cologne. I could have just got done playing basketball and they will think I am clean.

Third, target new girls or girls that you make good eye contact with or look nice. The majority of guys have broken radars and then wonder why things don't go well.

The fourth thing will address Manny51's comment. I always tell the boss that I want to talk to the girl alone. Once alone I compliment something I like about the girl, whether it's her look or her attitude, normally both. I tell her that I have a girlfriend and that I don't frequent these places often. Then I present whatever angle I am working, normally BBBJ. If things go well with the mood of the conversation I almost NEVER have a problem with getting BBBJ. It has been years since my last BBBJ in the Centro Casas. I would estimate that 50% of these girls will do bareback sex, if that is what I want. That number goes to 80-90% if I repeat.

To address Artisttyp's worry about the change of attitude once in the room, I have a suggestion that I often use to avoid this. Imagine that you want 15 minutes BBBJ before sex. Tell the girl this and see how she reacts. If she says OK, take your index finger and your thumb on your cheeks and ask her if she will do this and say that she is tired after 5 minutes. By the way she answers this question you will have all that you need to know. I am not criticizing Artisttyp, as I can see that he is experienced and everyone has their own approach, but just pointing out a suggestion that might be of benefit to some of you. I know that some of you guys can't reach your A game because you are not as comfortable in the massage parlor environment as in other places and I respect this.

The biggest mistake most hobbyists make is to ask blunt, dry questions without establishing small talk first.

Good luck and happy hunting to all.

VJ

Av8r
01-27-14, 01:15
Went to Liquids last night to see the place. Very nicely decorated and warm reception from AV8R. Good luck to you and I hope to visit you on a return trip. More than likely I will show up for the Superbowl Party.

ArtisttypIt was great meeting you and your friend Artist. I wish you had come back later on Saturday. By 10pm we had about 12 chicas and only 3 gringos. By 1am the place was hopping with at least 15 girls and about 12 guys. Many stunners. I had a hard time deciding myself who to spend the night with.

Just FYI to everybody. We are down to our last few weeks as a gringo only club. We are transitioning to a full service Colombian strip club. We might even bring in a blonde big breasted American stripper from Miami for our opening night to bring in the Colombianos. Jaja Starting around beginning of March we will have 10-20 girls a night; some stripper, some freelancers. We are printing flyers tomorrow to recruit girls from outlying area, and from towns far away. We will be providing free lodging, and dance lessons for the girls to learn how to pole dance correctly. We are hoping to make it a bit more artistic than typical for a strip club, but I'm not sure how well these chicas will cooperate. They are all very enthusiastic now, but we'll see if it continues. In the next week or two we begin our big media blitz to entice the local guys which we have never done before.

Wish us luck.

Zig Monger
01-27-14, 05:14
Yamile Marin was a great chica, in the past. What happened. 1st she no shows me, then when she sees me! St time ever. The pussy smells. Too bad, I really liked the babe.

Eugene11
01-27-14, 17:07
Hey guys,

New to the forum and was brought here by an acquaintance. Long story short I'm recently divorced and been working my tail off since to pay off divorce etc. And planning on going to Colombia around first week of March. Never been and travelling solo so not knowing anything I'm looking for the easiest area to navigate, preferably on foot from the hotel; where to stay that's not going to give me grief if I bring a visitor back and where to go to find some quality talent without paying through the nose. My preference of course would be picking up a non-pro but I'm not opposed to the pro's either. My question is which is better Cartagena, Bogota, or Medellin. I'm thinking Medellin from seeing that there seems to be so many more reports from that city, may be a good place to get my feet wet. (Iv'e been in the past to several other countries so I'm not that green). Money of course is always an issue not looking for overpriced talent which from what I'm hearing Cartagena is great vacation spot but quite a bit pricier than every where else. I will probably stay a good full 5 days wherever I go so I don't want to get bored, I'm into more than just screwing all the time so availability of other stuff would be cool too. I appreciate any help anyone can offer, I'm hoping Colombia will grow on me and it just may become my new home away from home. Literally.

Vitrea
01-28-14, 09:47
Hey guys,

New to the forum and was brought here by an acquaintance. Long story short I'm recently divorced and been working my tail off since to pay off divorce etc. And planning on going to Colombia around first week of March. Never been and travelling solo so not knowing anything I'm looking for the easiest area to navigate, preferably on foot from the hotel; where to stay that's not going to give me grief if I bring a visitor back and where to go to find some quality talent without paying through the nose. My preference of course would be picking up a non-pro but I'm not opposed to the pro's either. My question is which is better Cartagena, Bogota, or Medellin. I'm thinking Medellin from seeing that there seems to be so many more reports from that city, may be a good place to get my feet wet. (Iv'e been in the past to several other countries so I'm not that green). Money of course is always an issue not looking for overpriced talent which from what I'm hearing Cartagena is great vacation spot but quite a bit pricier than every where else. I will probably stay a good full 5 days wherever I go so I don't want to get bored, I'm into more than just screwing all the time so availability of other stuff would be cool too. I appreciate any help anyone can offer, I'm hoping Colombia will grow on me and it just may become my new home away from home. Literally.Oh man! Here you go anyway.

Go to Medellin and stay at the Mansion. Please don't ask,"what is the mansion". Read the forum. After that, ask anything you want and folks here will be happy to help you out but you need to demonstrate that you have read the forum and you are seeking specific information. Have fun.

Vitrea
01-28-14, 09:50
It was great meeting you and your friend Artist. I wish you had come back later on Saturday. By 10pm we had about 12 chicas and only 3 gringos. By 1am the place was hopping with at least 15 girls and about 12 guys. Many stunners. I had a hard time deciding myself who to spend the night with.

Just FYI to everybody. We are down to our last few weeks as a gringo only club. We are transitioning to a full service Colombian strip club. We might even bring in a blonde big breasted American stripper from Miami for our opening night to bring in the Colombianos. Jaja Starting around beginning of March we will have 10-20 girls a night; some stripper, some freelancers. We are printing flyers tomorrow to recruit girls from outlying area, and from towns far away. We will be providing free lodging, and dance lessons for the girls to learn how to pole dance correctly. We are hoping to make it a bit more artistic than typical for a strip club, but I'm not sure how well these chicas will cooperate. They are all very enthusiastic now, but we'll see if it continues. In the next week or two we begin our big media blitz to entice the local guys which we have never done before.

Wish us luck.Sincerely wish good luck to you. BTW, you can't be competing with the clients for the girls!

Black Page
01-28-14, 12:05
The biggest mistake most hobbyists make is to ask blunt, dry questions without establishing small talk first.So true! 100% agree.

(It is also true that establishing appropriate confidence by small talk in a casa is not easy for everyone. You are an artist)

Hioctane
01-28-14, 16:27
Yamile Marin was a great chica, in the past. What happened. 1st she no shows me, then when she sees me! St time ever. The pussy smells. Too bad, I really liked the babe.Possibly you were the second on her tour. LOL. I've seen girls rush out without showering claiming "I'll shower at home."

Hioctane
01-28-14, 16:40
I have been reading on here recently alot of talk about the average quality experiences in the El Centro casas. There are a few important things IMO that will get you great experiences in the casas.

First, go in with the mindset that you will see at least 5-10 places. There are over 30 in El Centro and 5-10 within 3 blocks of New Life.

Second, dress in normal Colombian clothes and wear cologne. I have most girls smell my shirt so they can smell the cologne..You are assuming a lot of these newbies speak enough Spanish to communicate with these girls. A lot, I would guess, do not! It's a $15 casa. You can't expect much. Small talks helps. Being a repeat customer helps. Looking clean helps. However, like I said. You can't expect much from a $15 casa!

Artisttyp
01-28-14, 21:27
There are over 30 in El Centro and 5-10 within 3 blocks of New Life.Please list an address for these places. If you can't find them knowing that there are 30 casas is worthless and frustrating.

Cologne? Absolutely. Google AMOUAGE.

The thing is most guys down here are having the same experiences in the casas. These are guys who stay down here for months at a time. You win some and you lose some. IMO there is no winning all the time. Its just not realistic.

* Also worth mentioning is I am PURPOSELY hitting new casas every day to support the forum by updating the casa list. I haven't repeated with any girl in a casa. WHY? Because I want to contribute something of value to the forum!

Combo
01-28-14, 22:09
Yamile Marin was a great chica, in the past. What happened. 1st she no shows me, then when she sees me! St time ever. The pussy smells. Too bad, I really liked the babe.While I enjoy Medellin, I have encountered a disproportionate % of chicas with bad pussy hygiene there vs other mongering menus. On a couple occasions, I've declined the session (just giving them 20k for taxi money).

SlamCity7777
01-28-14, 22:22
Yamile Marin was a great chica, in the past. What happened. 1st she no shows me, then when she sees me! St time ever. The pussy smells. Too bad, I really liked the babe.Say it ain't so! I was looking to hit her up on my next trip! Rats! Maybe she had an off day? Have you had dates with her previously?

Even Joe Montana had a bad game once in a while! LOL!

TweedleD
01-28-14, 22:23
While I enjoy Medellin, I have encountered a disproportionate % of chicas with bad pussy hygiene there vs other mongering menus. On a couple occasions, I've declined the session (just giving them 20k for taxi money).Colombians need to watch Conan, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqF8O5KJQLE

BayBoy
01-28-14, 23:44
Please list an address for these places. If you can't find them knowing that there are 30 casas is worthless and frustrating.

Cologne? Absolutely. Google AMOUAGE.

The thing is most guys down here are having the same experiences in the casas. These are guys who stay down here for months at a time. You win some and you lose some. IMO there is no winning all the time. Its just not realistic.

* Also worth mentioning is I am PURPOSELY hitting new casas every day to support the forum by updating the casa list. I haven't repeated with any girl in a casa. WHY? Because I want to contribute something of value to the forum!Artisttyp you're the man, but I respectively disagree. World Travel 69 have set up great Medellin Lists for the El Centro casas PLUS maps to go along with it to make it real easy to find these places. I appreciate all the work they have put into it. All these guys have to do is read these listings.

Now I'm of the same mind that you win some and you lose some. I've cut my game many times with mean and unfriendly chicas. The bait and switch types, the ones who are constantly asking for money. The ones who look like they're going to try to rob me etc.

When I go to Colombia I take care of my sexual needs first then I give a little thought to the Forum. In some of these places I see the same chicas sometimes for years, if they're friendly and nice I do repeat business with them. Plus I looked at it like this these low end places don't cost very much, which I usually go to, why sweat the money.

Vegas Jeff
01-29-14, 01:07
Please list an address for these places. If you can't find them knowing that there are 30 casas is worthless and frustrating.

Cologne? Absolutely. Google AMOUAGE.

The thing is most guys down here are having the same experiences in the casas. These are guys who stay down here for months at a time. You win some and you lose some. IMO there is no winning all the time. Its just not realistic.

* Also worth mentioning is I am PURPOSELY hitting new casas every day to support the forum by updating the casa list. I haven't repeated with any girl in a casa. WHY? Because I want to contribute something of value to the forum!As Bayboy mentioned, the list is in the forum. There is not much changing in The Centro Casa scene. You are not exploring new ground in a new place. Your stories on your repeats with your favorites are probably better reads anyway. IMO the repeats are when the fun begins. It doesn't get any better than when you go through the door, each of you looks at each other, and you both know that it is going to be really good.

You are right in that you win some and you lose some but I do not agree that the guys down here are having the same experiences. I understand that some guys only have a few days and others don't settle well even for a few weeks. Most of the experienced hobbyists that I know, that have some time, are having similar experiences to mine. Jonesie writes on here and other places. I have seen him defend the casas also. I am describing my experiences and you are describing yours.

When I am with my friends we chat about our experiences. Sometimes one of us will use something that we heard and report back that it worked great. You explained something and I made a suggestion. I was only trying to help. Those that incorporate new things into their toolbox will do much better than those who find the extra door to another casa. To each is their own.

Good luck with the rest of your trip.

VJ

SavePros321
01-29-14, 01:18
Yamile Marin was a great chica, in the past. What happened. 1st she no shows me, then when she sees me! St time ever. The pussy smells. Too bad, I really liked the babe.Probably shouldn't expect too much. This chick practically lives at the mansion (Boyd lets her stay in the room near the pool at HMP 2 since she lives near Rio Negro). It's only expected that after being rode long and hard for so many years that someone like her could become jaded (and develop rotten puss).

Artisttyp
01-29-14, 04:35
Artisttyp you're the man, but I respectively disagree..True but the casa list needs to keep being updated and several casas were not on the list.

I am having a good time and people can do what they want with the info. I am only trying to contribute what I can.

Bien Pueda

Vegas Jeff
01-29-14, 15:59
True but the casa list needs to keep being updated and several casas were not on the list.

I am having a good time and people can do what they want with the info. I am only trying to contribute what I can.

Bien PuedaIt is good to hear that your trip is going well.

I want to compliment you on your ability to do Medellin on a budget.

You set a good example, with detail, of how a good time is to be had without spending a lot of money.

Hioctane
01-29-14, 18:07
While I enjoy Medellin, I have encountered a disproportionate % of chicas with bad pussy hygiene there vs other mongering menus. On a couple occasions, I've declined the session (just giving them 20k for taxi money).This is especially true of casas and why I normally don't do DATY there. Many won't shower after a session (probably because there is no hot water) and will opt for just wet naps. There is nothing worse than the smell wafting up to your nose while you do doggy! Most of the time I insist that they shower in my place.

Artisttyp
01-29-14, 19:17
It is good to hear that your trip is going well.

I want to compliment you on your ability to do Medellin on a budget.

You set a good example, with detail, of how a good time is to be had without spending a lot of money.Thanks. No hard feelings I just felt like I was working for nothing and I do care. I get so much great information from ISG and other websites that I feel obligated to give something back.

I wouldn't mind coming down to MDE with one of the recent casa reports I did. Definitely NOT needed to suceed but it would interest me to see what someone else came up with. On a budget. These are the type of reports I look for when I do research. I also understand that what I do is only a limited scope of what MDE has to offer.

Many thanks to the guys that keep it up Matt and Almotu again kudos to you guys.

I will maybe do one more little report before I leave next Tuesday.

Its all good. Excuse me if I got a little upset.

Member #4394
01-29-14, 19:27
I enjoyed reading your reports. The mixture of street and casas is a good idea, indeed. I will be there in spring, and visit these casas.


Thanks. No hard feelings I just felt like I was working for nothing and I do care. I get so much great information from ISG and other websites that I feel obligated to give something back.

I wouldn't mind coming down to MDE with one of the recent casa reports I did. Definitely NOT needed to suceed but it would interest me to see what someone else came up with. On a budget. These are the type of reports I look for when I do research. I also understand that what I do is only a limited scope of what MDE has to offer.

Many thanks to the guys that keep it up Matt and Almotu again kudos to you guys.

I will maybe do one more little report before I leave next Tuesday.

Its all good. Excuse me if I got a little upset.

Hioctane
01-29-14, 19:39
True but the casa list needs to keep being updated and several casas were not on the list.

I am having a good time and people can do what they want with the info. I am only trying to contribute what I can.

Bien PuedaSmall casas come and go. It's hard to keep an updated list. If your're adventurous, walk around Centro and guys will hand out cards with casas on them.

Monger2012
01-30-14, 03:16
I am planning to explore Medellin chicas for the first time by staying at the famous hotel Medellin plaza. What is the best way to book and pay for rooms in Hotel Medellin Plaza to get best deals?

Thanks

GreenHouseMan
01-30-14, 04:07
First of all, much appreciation for all previous posts. First time Medellin visitor in Feb for multiple months. Want to enjoy World Cup in what should be an electric setting. Me, 62 white gringo. My question for the forum is the following. Very interested in high end ladies. Would like to know if anyone has expertise in this area. Health issues and little game and lacking language skills makes local pick ups difficult at best. I have no quams paying, but like the saying goes, most times you get what you pay for. I have no problem with casas or any other paying situations. At this age, just looking to enjoy the best possible. I realize the forum seems to be more budget minded in this regard, but generally speaking would love to read any info regarding elite ladies. Not sure if $700 wk (girl budget) US will allow me to enjoy elite company, minimum 2/3 times a week. (time per session 1-2 hrs, and occassinal overnight). Will still on occassion look for that budget diamond in the ruff, just not everyday. More than willing to listen to any and all advice in this area.

Thanks to all!

Manny51
01-30-14, 17:27
This post isn't aimed at any particular individual, but I would like to urge newbies to Medellin to please read the forum BEFORE asking about the lay of the land in Medellin.

Being relatively new to the forum, I admit to usually being on the other side of this argument. But I have recently noticed a constant slew of people asking general obvious questions. I understand that some forums are less active and rarely updated, so a lay of the land question once in a while is ok. But the Medellin form has got to be one of the most active pages on the forum, with lay of the land questions asked and answered on a very regular basis. All you have to do is read back about one year's worth to get all the info you need and more. This is just basic forum etiquette.

World Travel 69
01-30-14, 17:55
Artisttyp:

If you get a chance please find out where they are now?

Thanks for all your research!

P.S. You mentioned the prices for 30 minutes. So, i am raising all the prices by the same amount as you posted for 30 minutes?

1. Moved? * Geishas, (Same owner as ex Puntocon) , Calle 58 # 51-40, in the Plaza de la Estacióand Prado del Metro, in the north side of the green building, second floor (see photos and video).8 Chicas. Prices: 30k 30 min. 45k hour. 2 Chicas 50k hour. Tel: (57) (4) 251 43 83, Cell: 311 395 32 30. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10 am to 7 pm.

TweedleD
01-30-14, 19:45
I am planning to explore Medellin chicas for the first time by staying at the famous hotel Medellin plaza. What is the best way to book and pay for rooms in Hotel Medellin Plaza to get best deals?

ThanksHttp://hotelmedellinplaza.com/

Artisttyp
01-30-14, 21:08
Artisttyp:

If you get a chance please find out where they are now?

Thanks for all your research!

P. S. You mentioned the prices for 30 minutes. So, I am raising all the prices by the same amount as you posted for 30 minutes?

1. Moved? * Geishas, (Same owner as ex Puntocon) , Calle 58 # 51-40, in the Plaza de la Estacióand Prado del Metro, in the north side of the green building, second floor (see photos and video).8 Chicas. Prices: 30k 30 min. 45k hour. 2 Chicas 50k hour. Tel: (57) (4) 251 43 83, Cell: 311 395 32 30. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10 am to 7 pm.WT69,

Anything for you!

Good thing you asked me to check out Geishas. The address that you gave me was a stall in a mercado. However the guy turned me onto a brothel across the street (diagnol) called

Casa De La Piedra.

Calle 58 No. 50a 54.

Tel 2540598.

Open 24/7 but the madam says 10pm. 6am is when they have the most chicas. Roughly 6 at a time.

100K / 30 min 180K for 1hr.

The one girl that was there was a knockout and she said she did BBBJ and did not mention a tip. At this point my milk is dried up and I don't want to take money out of the ATM so I passed. I am sort of kicking myself for it because a week ago I would have jumped all over this girl. All I am interested in now is cheap street girls.

She never heard of Geishas by the way. Also you will be amazed by the set up. The place resembles a mansion once inside and you sit on this round james bond looking couch and the girls decend from a beautiful staircase. She told me no colombians allowed! She only caters to gringos and europeans.

The madam is one tough broad. Be ready to deal with a bull.

Artesanias:

Thank You Ricker. Yes your addreess was exactly correct. I'd only like to add that it is located on Carerra 54 which is very uncommon for a casa. The building is an acqua green colored two story hotel with a beach umbrella on the balcony. You can't miss it since it is located in an otherwise blue collar industrial area with auto service shops.

Was greeted at the door by a porter dressed in hospital scrubs. They have maybe 3 waiting lounges where I encountered roughly 5 locals just hanging around drinking. Consumo is a mandatory 3K.

All the chicas (5) were currently occupied so I waitied around for a while. Two new girls come in off the streets and I choose one of them for negotiations. I asked her the obligatory what you do or don't do and her response was " I will give you a great BJ without a condom" no tip no other comments discussed. Sold.

The session went well but the knock on the door was a first for me in these casas. I was already finished but man do they time you in this place. Its funny because the rates were 60 K for the half hour for what looked like a really low end clientele. I asked why the price difference but nobody could give me another reason besides the girls are pretty.

I saw a few other girls and YES they were decent looking but not amazing IMO.

*They did not take payment first which creeped me out but it worked out ok. Considering the clock watching they do you may want to try and pay first so there are no surprises in case you run over a little on time.

I gave you guys a number for a street girl on 53 named Tatiana. I tried her out finally and she is for real. She gave me a great BBBJ for 25K plus the room. She would probably welcome your call. You can say El Gringo Con Los Tatuajes sent you. She seems like a hustler at first but she is actually quite decent in private.

Thats it fellows. As always I appreciate those who went before me and were able to lead me in the right direction.

Peace Love and Buttlicking para siempre. Bien Pueda.

Artisttyp

PS. WT69 I go blank when casas quote me hourly prices since I don´t do them. However I somewhat remember hourly rates at 37K/30 min casas being around 60K. I dont think they automatically double the 30 minute rate. Id say an incrase of 2/3 would be more common. Average ? Roughly 60 or the most 70K.

Member #4394
01-30-14, 22:34
Formerly "Lindas Chicas." Nancy may have just changed the name of casa. If so (I don't know) , this casa is the old wine in the new bottle. Did mamasan talk loud with harsh voice? As for the budget casas in el Centro, the price is around 35hh / 55h.


WT69,

Anything for you!

Good thing you asked me to check out Geishas. The address that you gave me was a stall in a mercado. However the guy turned me onto a brothel across the street (diagnol) called

Casa De La Piedra.

Calle 58 No. 50a 54.

Tel 2540598.

Open 24/7 but the madam says 10pm. 6am is when they have the most chicas. Roughly 6 at a time.

100K / 30 min 180K for 1hr.

K.

Hioctane
01-30-14, 23:47
That's what we affectionately call Lindas Chicas.

Artisttyp
01-31-14, 02:57
Formerly "Lindas Chicas." Nancy may have just changed the name of casa. If so (I don't know) , this casa is the old wine in the new bottle. Did mamasan talk loud with harsh voice? As for the budget casas in el Centro, the price is around 35hh / 55h.Yes she was a little tough guy.

I must say the one girl that was there was a knockout. As long as service is good I would say 100k is a steal.

SavePros321
01-31-14, 04:17
Okay, who has flown Wendy into Miami? The minute I start seeing her post Super Bowl pics I'm done, LOL.

I guess 350K will no longer be an option now that she's hit US soil. More like $3,500USD, hehehe.

Sailor Jim
01-31-14, 15:25
I have been reading on here recently alot of talk about the average quality experiences in the El Centro casas. There are a few important things IMO that will get you great experiences in the casas.

First, go in with the mindset that you will see at least 5-10 places. There are over 30 in El Centro and 5-10 within 3 blocks of New Life.

Second, dress in normal Colombian clothes and wear cologne. I have most girls smell my shirt so they can smell the cologne. I could have just got done playing basketball and they will think I am clean.

Third, target new girls or girls that you make good eye contact with or look nice. The majority of guys have broken radars and then wonder why things don't go well.

The fourth thing will address Manny51's comment. I always tell the boss that I want to talk to the girl alone. Once alone I compliment something I like about the girl, whether it's her look or her attitude, normally both. I tell her that I have a girlfriend and that I don't frequent these places often. Then I present whatever angle I am working, normally BBBJ. If things go well with the mood of the conversation I almost NEVER have a problem with getting BBBJ. It has been years since my last BBBJ in the Centro Casas. I would estimate that 50% of these girls will do bareback sex, if that is what I want. That number goes to 80-90% if I repeat.

To address Artisttyp's worry about the change of attitude once in the room, I have a suggestion that I often use to avoid this. Imagine that you want 15 minutes BBBJ before sex. Tell the girl this and see how she reacts. If she says OK, take your index finger and your thumb on your cheeks and ask her if she will do this and say that she is tired after 5 minutes. By the way she answers this question you will have all that you need to know. I am not criticizing Artisttyp, as I can see that he is experienced and everyone has their own approach, but just pointing out a suggestion that might be of benefit to some of you. I know that some of you guys can't reach your A game because you are not as comfortable in the massage parlor environment as in other places and I respect this.

The biggest mistake most hobbyists make is to ask blunt, dry questions without establishing small talk first.

Good luck and happy hunting to all.

VJSage advice here. Might I reiterate that you need to session a few times with the same girl, chat, build rapport and then ask if you can come in her mouth, no condom. Many guys asking for BBBJ first shot and agree to propina risk getting a 3 minute weak ass dick lick and pay the propina. There girls take loads in their mouth all the time since they've been 13. If they like you they will take yours.

Even if they pull you out of their mouth mid load you still got decent enough BBBJ that made you spew all they way til the very end. Much better than a 2 minute lick for a 20K propina. You don't even have to come in her mouth you can stop her and go on to something else. But at least you lock in a solid BBBJ, JMHO.

World Travel 69
01-31-14, 16:27
Sorry I should added the video, as I had the wrong address on my list. It Should be Calle 57 # 51 (Bolivar)-40.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkzfcjyLPGE

Casa de la Piedra (Lindas Chicas) :

Her pricing is a little confusing, because when I was there she charged a half hour or hour fee and a room fee.

I guess I have the wrong address for Artesanias. You said Carrera 54.

Artesanias, Calle 61 (Moore) #53-78, piso 2. 15 Chicas. Prices: 7k Room. 60k 30 min, __k hour. Tel: 512 06 59. Hours: Monday to Sunday. 10 am to 5 pm.

On the pricing, what I mean is, if you posted 40k when it was 30k before, I added 10k more to 45 min and 10k to the hour.

Thanks again.


WT69,

Anything for you!

Good thing you asked me to check out Geishas. The address that you gave me was a stall in a mercado. However the guy turned me onto a brothel across the street (diagnol) called

Casa De La Piedra.

Calle 58 No. 50a 54.

Tel 2540598.

Open 24/7 but the madam says 10pm. 6am is when they have the most chicas. Roughly 6 at a time.

100K / 30 min 180K for 1hr.

Artesanias:

Thank You Ricker. Yes your addreess was exactly correct. I'd only like to add that it is located on Carerra 54 which is very uncommon for a casa. The building is an acqua green colored two story hotel with a beach umbrella on the balcony. You can't miss it since it is located in an otherwise blue collar industrial area with auto service shops.

Artisttyp.

PS. WT69 I go blank when casas quote me hourly prices since I don't do them. However I somewhat remember hourly rates at 37K / 30 min casas being around 60K. I don't think they automatically double the 30 minute rate. I'd say an increase of 2/3 would be more common. Average? Roughly 60 or the most 70K.

Colombia Jake
01-31-14, 17:15
Http://www.colombiajake.com/Just toured with JP after a year since our first tour to what I consider to be the best three when it comes to location and girls and without a doubt Energy consistently has a solid lineup with 15 girls and JP took the cleanup hitter named Angelica for a walk-off home run. We left there and went to Blue Room which had 10 girls and a couple winners followed by Abydos which changed there business card to just a picture and address no name. They also had 10 girls of which 2 or 3 were good. I like what Blue Room does when they finish the one on one introductions they all come back out in a line and give you a second look, smart. I have two guys from Jersey coming in for the Super Bowl weekend and tell me they want to jump in the pool after being in the freezing winter storms. Added some videos to my Colombia Jake website including the rooms and pool as well as around town to a few spots with some guys from New York that were here last week.

Thanks JP for your support!

Jake

Lmarcone
01-31-14, 17:55
How in the world did she get a Visa?

God bless though.


Okay, who has flown Wendy into Miami? The minute I start seeing her post Super Bowl pics I'm done, LOL.

I guess 350K will no longer be an option now that she's hit US soil. More like $3, 500USD, hehehe.

SavePros321
01-31-14, 19:00
How in the world did she get a Visa?

God bless though.Not sure, but she's already got a long running list of guys posting comments on her post to "please visit me in (insert city here)!" I'm pretty sure her inbox has exploded within the past 12hrs or so.

Artisttyp
01-31-14, 21:22
Sorry I should added the video, as I had the wrong address on my list. It Should be Calle 57 # 51 (Bolivar).40.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkzfcjyLPGE

Casa de la Piedra (Lindas Chicas) :

Her pricing is a little confusing, because when I was there she charged a half hour or hour fee and a room fee.

I guess I have the wrong address for Artesanias. You said Carrera 54.

Artesanias, Calle 61 (Moore) #53-78, piso 2. 15 Chicas. Prices: 7k Room. 60k 30 min, __k hour. Tel: 512 06 59. Hours: Monday to Sunday. 10 am to 5 pm.

On the pricing, what I mean is, if you posted 40k when it was 30k before, I added 10k more to 45 min and 10k to the hour.

Thanks again.I tried again today and I got pissed off. Calle 57 turns into 50a right when it hits Bolivar. I asked a few people and they all sent me in different directions. Even a street sweeper with a map on his lanyard couldn't tell me where it was. Sorry.

The prices for Lindas Chicas that I was quoted was to include the room as well.

I totally agree with repeating at casas. I just got my world rocked by a repeat. She went to town on DATY and DFK and BBBJ. Couldn't have asked for a better session. No amount was discussed but I gave her a 10K tip. No real complaints.

By the way Parque Periodista has been taken over by the cops for two nights in a row now. I didn't see one for two weeks then all of a sudden they are coming down hard on the sellers. Be Careful

Member #4394
01-31-14, 22:12
The casa was on the 2nd floor in a commercial bldg to the north west of prado station. There is a small restaurant below the casa. But I think the casa is not there anymore.


I tried again today and I got pissed off. Calle 57 turns into 50a right when it hits Bolivar. I asked a few people and they all sent me in different directions. Even a street sweeper with a map on his lanyard couldn't tell me where it was. Sorry.

The prices for Lindas Chicas that I was quoted was to include the room as well.

I totally agree with repeating at casas. I just got my world rocked by a repeat. She went to town on DATY and DFK and BBBJ. Couldn't have asked for a better session. No amount was discussed but I gave her a 10K tip. No real complaints.

By the way Parque Periodista has been taken over by the cops for two nights in a row now. I didn't see one for two weeks then all of a sudden they are coming down hard on the sellers. Be Careful

SlamCity7777
01-31-14, 22:20
How in the world did she get a Visa?

God bless though.Well who knows? By hook or by crook? Maybe a immigration guy was one of her dates and a few "porfavor?" and a good few dates and then BLAMO! Visa! Or she might have been able to show she had enough reasons to return. I think a few years back somebody said she bought a bunch of land (that's a ton of dates!) so a mortgage or a deed would be enough for a tourist visa no?

OR!

Or maybe she decided to do porn and is going to do bang bros! If that happens watch out! No more $200-$350 for a date, You'll see her up on TLC or Eros for $1200! Doing stirp tours! LOL!

This is a joke! I have no info about any of what is going on. Just my own perverted mind at work! LOL!

Also was Wendy charging 350 for a short time date?

Member #4394
01-31-14, 22:44
But most casas do that for all girls or a few girls you like, if you request. It would be good idea to ask mamasan for an additional presentation.


I like what Blue Room does when they finish the one on one introductions they all come back out in a line and give you a second look, smart.

Jake

Member #4287
02-01-14, 04:06
Well who knows? By hook or by crook? Maybe a immigration guy was one of her dates and a few "porfavor?" and a good few dates and then BLAMO! Visa! Or she might have been able to show she had enough reasons to return. I think a few years back somebody said she bought a bunch of land (that's a ton of dates!) so a mortgage or a deed would be enough for a tourist visa no?

OR!

Or maybe she decided to do porn and is going to do bang bros! If that happens watch out! No more $200-$350 for a date, You'll see her up on TLC or Eros for $1200! Doing stirp tours! LOL!

This is a joke! I have no info about any of what is going on. Just my own perverted mind at work! LOL!

Also was Wendy charging 350 for a short time date?Visa stamps in your passport showing you visit other countries and 20 million cop or more in a bank account trumps your name on real property and a steady job when it comes to getting a tourist visa.

I know a colombiana that owned a home had a decent paying job for over two years and still got denied. She said they asked her how much money she had in her bank account and she told them 800, 000 cop. Her visa was denied.

Tourist visas are given so people can come to the US and spend money that is the bottom line. No money. No visa.

LukeSkywalker
02-01-14, 05:49
The US does want tourists to visit and spend money. I recently learned that the US routinely grants visas to tourists from a very poor third-world country about 66% of the applications. Only a third was denied visas. That's a pretty high acceptance rate.

State department has a few criteria to deny visas:

1. Persons who may commit terrorists acts, physical violence or other crimes in the US.

2. Persons with little stability in their own country, jobs, houses, physical assets, bank accounts, family ties etc. that may induce them to stay and hide in the US.

3. Convicted criminals or persons associated with drugs, gun, [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), or with criminal backgrounds.

4. Persons suspected to engage in military or industrial espionage.

I know a few execs from a specific country who have again and again been denied tourist, trade or conference visas, because somehow the US knows they have been copying proprietary product designs and production processes, stealing intellectual properties, violating patents rights of Western countries.

US State Department really tries, but occasionally smugglers, spies, criminals and unemployed hot young girls can still get in the US to do what they want. So go figure.

Hioctane
02-01-14, 19:36
Visa stamps in your passport showing you visit other countries and 20 million cop or more in a bank account trumps your name on real property and a steady job when it comes to getting a tourist visa.

I know a colombiana that owned a home had a decent paying job for over two years and still got denied. She said they asked her how much money she had in her bank account and she told them 800, 000 cop. Her visa was denied.

Tourist visas are given so people can come to the US and spend money that is the bottom line. No money. No visa.How can you have a house and a nice paying job and only have $400 in your bank account? Red flags everywhere! How can you afford a plane ticket let alone support yourself on this trip?

SavePros321
02-02-14, 04:57
How can you have a house and a nice paying job and only have $400 in your bank account? Red flags everywhere! How can you afford a plane ticket let alone support yourself on this trip?You need to read "The Millionaire Next Door" my friend. You'd be surprised at how many of the folks who portray themselves to be "high rollers" are actually leveraged to the hilt ("Big hat, no cattle") , LOL!

Nearly Half of America Lives Paycheck-to-Paycheck

http://business.time.com/2014/01/30/nearly-half-of-america-lives-paycheck-to-paycheck/

Manizales911
02-02-14, 14:45
You'd be surprised at how many of the folks who portray themselves to be "high rollers" are actually leveraged to the hilt ("Big hat, no cattle") , LOL!I have several friends like that, they spend it as fast as they earn it, foolish.

Black Page
02-02-14, 15:49
The US does want tourists to visit and spend money. I recently learned that the US routinely grants visas to tourists from a very poor third-world country about 66% of the applications. Only a third was denied visas. That's a pretty high acceptance rate.

State department has a few criteria to deny visas:

US State Department really tries, but occasionally smugglers, spies, criminals and unemployed hot young girls can still get in the US to do what they want. So go figure.It is always difficult for me, each time I enter USA, to refrain from laughing out loudly in front of the immigration officer, when I present my ESTA declaration where I officially undersign, among various declarations:

Are you seeking entry to engage in criminal or immoral activities?
NO

Did anybody in the history ever answered YES to this question? What was the reaction of the immigration officer?
And, last but not least, who is the genius who conceived such profound questions to establish prerequisites to enter USA?

PS: during my last visit to USA, I actually had sex with a married lady, but it was not P4P. Does this qualify as "immoral"? I confess that yes, I always hope and aim to do such things, on all my visits. Am I guilty of false declaration?

Vegas Jeff
02-02-14, 19:13
You need to read "The Millionaire Next Door" my friend. You'd be surprised at how many of the folks who portray themselves to be "high rollers" are actually leveraged to the hilt ("Big hat, no cattle") , LOL!This is an enlightening read for many.

When I arrived in Costa Rica 9 years ago I was surprised to find that the majority of foreigners were struggling to get by and / or living off of a very fixed income. I was expecting to find more wealthy men and men with jobs that permitted them to live where they wanted. I had to ask myself, where are the wealthy single men living? Don't these entitled, single men want to get laid regularly as a top priority? The answer is no.

There are a few things that most men in this position are looking for IMO.

First, they are looking for an educated population of people to live with. Where educated people live things operate and function faster and more efficiently than in places where less educated live. There is less stress and more ease in living daily life.

Second, they are looking for things to spend their money on that increase their quality of life. These things range from general entertainment to better quality health care.

Third, they are looking for a safe place to live.

There are very few, if any, top mongering destinations that can meet most or all of this criteria. Over the years I have met many men who are wealthy and live abroad. Although they find my stories about the girls intriguing it is not on many of their priority lists.

I hope this sheds a light on this for some of you.

LukeSkywalker
02-02-14, 19:21
US Immigration's definition of immoral activities is likely related to pimping and prostitution.

Sleeping with married women, or adultery, is not only immoral but may still be criminal in the laws of a few Southern states, but not crimes prosecutable under US federal laws. So you can go ahead and sleep with as many married women as you can get your hands on without fear of the law. But if they know you plan to pay prostitutes for sex, or you plan to sell yourself for sex, that may be deemed immoral and may be ground to deny entry.

This simple question is to make sure they have you state your intention in writing, so if you are caught committing criminal or immoral acts, it would be quick and easy to obtain deportation orders by US court.

Regarding immoral activities, a few Asian countries take it very seriously. I was on a trekking tour in Asia and crossed borders on land into Vietnam and Cambodia. Immigration officers at both countries grilled me for a long time about my purposes of entry into their countries, being a single man. Why was my spouse or GF not in the tour with me? Was I seeking entries into their countries to fuck their young girls? Those were their repeated questions. They made sure I understand that they do not like sex tourists.

I had to convince them that I like to tough it out on trekking tours, but my GF would never take these land tours on the rough and dusty roads of Asia. Immigration officers in Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia etc... had no obvious concerns about immoral activities, however.


It is always difficult for me, each time I enter USA, to refrain from laughing out loudly in front of the immigration officer, when I present my ESTA declaration where I officially undersign, among various declarations:

Are you seeking entry to engage in criminal or immoral activities?

NO

Did anybody in the history ever answered YES to this question? What was the reaction of the immigration officer?

And, last but not least, who is the genius who conceived such profound questions to establish prerequisites to enter USA?

PS: during my last visit to USA, I actually had sex with a married lady, but it was not P4P. Does this qualify as "immoral"? I confess that yes, I always hope and aim to do such things, on all my visits. Am I guilty of false declaration?

Black Page
02-02-14, 19:36
This simple question is to make sure they have you state your intention in writing, so if you are caught committing criminal or immoral acts, it would be quick and easy to obtain deportation orders by US court.I am not sure your reply is serious, or you're just having fun (which was my aim, BTW).

If one is caught committing anything illegal, he is prosecuted by law regardless he has "promised" to behave well or not!
When you enter European borders, you will be not asked "will you trade drugs here?", because it is obvious that the answer would be "no".
(they don't ask "will you be immoral here?", but this does not mean we are the Region of the Sin)

I (and - I must say - all others I know who visit US from Europe) consider this question in the immigration form one of the most laughable things, which a regular traveller ever experiences while on travel worldwide!
I am surprised no American usually gets the ironic potential of that statement.

Member #4244
02-02-14, 19:51
You need to read "The Millionaire Next Door" my friend. You'd be surprised at how many of the folks who portray themselves to be "high rollers" are actually leveraged to the hilt ("Big hat, no cattle") , LOL!

Nearly Half of America Lives Paycheck-to-Paycheck

http://business.time.com/2014/01/30/nearly-half-of-america-lives-paycheck-to-paycheck/Yup, it's crazy. Where I live you see a lot of hard-working immigrant families that are earning maybe $2000 a month for a household of of four or more. They live to their last penny and I understand that. But then ten minutes up the hills, you see people earning $12000 a month and doing the same thing.

SeizeTheDay
02-02-14, 21:46
This is an enlightening read for many.

When I arrived in Costa Rica 9 years ago I was surprised to find that the majority of foreigners were struggling to get by and / or living off of a very fixed income. I was expecting to find more wealthy men and men with jobs that permitted them to live where they wanted. I had to ask myself, where are the wealthy single men living? Don't these entitled, single men want to get laid regularly as a top priority? The answer is no.

There are a few things that most men in this position are looking for IMO.

First, they are looking for an educated population of people to live with. Where educated people live things operate and function faster and more efficiently than in places where less educated live. There is less stress and more ease in living daily life.

Second, they are looking for things to spend their money on that increase their quality of life. These things range from general entertainment to better quality health care.

Third, they are looking for a safe place to live.

There are very few, if any, top mongering destinations that can meet most or all of this criteria. Over the years I have met many men who are wealthy and live abroad. Although they find my stories about the girls intriguing it is not on many of their priority lists.

I hope this sheds a light on this for some of you.This is a very insightful post which makes me reflect upon our hobby of mongering, and how it fits in (more like dose not) into general society. I personally believe that I would not stop mongering regardless of how much money I had. In light of the superbowl New York has seen some recent prostitution stings. Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman said ' He wanted to send a message to anyone thinking about patronizing illegal services that they better get in front of the TV have a few beers and watch the game and stay out of trouble. ' Because of the way some countries view prostitution some mongerers might feel more accepted living in other countries. I would guess that most members here could never talk to friends, family or coworkers about their exploits.

LukeSkywalker
02-02-14, 23:11
I understood that you were having fun at this idiotic question.

But it's not a joking matter to the US legal system. This simple question is to help Homeland Security Department (an executive branch) expedite legal proceedings through the courts (judiciary branch separate and independent from executive) , for quick convictions and deportation of people caught committed crimes or immoral activities.

People caught with crimes would also be charged with lying to immigration officers, which is a serious felony. Their entry visa privilege would be suspended for 10 years per violation.


I am not sure your reply is serious, or you're just having fun (which was my aim, BTW).

If one is caught committing anything illegal, he is prosecuted by law regardless he has "promised" to behave well or not!

When you enter European borders, you will be not asked "will you trade drugs here?", because it is obvious that the answer would be "no".

(they don't ask "will you be immoral here?", but this does not mean we are the Region of the Sin)

I (and. I must say. All others I know who visit US from Europe) consider this question in the immigration form one of the most laughable things, which a regular traveller ever experiences while on travel worldwide!

I am surprised no American usually gets the ironic potential of that statement.

Socker
02-03-14, 11:13
This is a very insightful post which makes me reflect upon our hobby of mongering, and how it fits in (more like dose not) into general society. I personally believe that I would not stop mongering regardless of how much money I had. In light of the superbowl New York has seen some recent prostitution stings. Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman said ' He wanted to send a message to anyone thinking about patronizing illegal services that they better get in front of the TV have a few beers and watch the game and stay out of trouble. ' Because of the way some countries view prostitution some mongerers might feel more accepted living in other countries. I would guess that most members here could never talk to friends, family or coworkers about their exploits.

Nevertheless I will give you my insight regarding our hobby. For the most part I'm an open book and I talk openly about my travels. I have lost friends, I have friends who don't want to see photos or hear about my exploits and then a few that get a kick out of my life style. I would say 20% of my male friends don't keep in touch anymore. 60% of my friends do not want to hear about my travels and 20% are very interested. So that's my experience and I'm blue collar w / a varied bunch of friends.

I find it hard not to talk about it. Whenever possible I will challenge women w / my lifestyle and I will justify every aspect of it. They're usually amused when they ask me why I'm learning spanish and I reply so I can enjoy my beautiful Colombian hookers better. They are shocked but at the same time it makes sense to them and they either laugh or scratch their head in disbelief that I said it. I'm talking complete strangers here.

As far as my family and friends go they know me and how kind and considerate I am and have always been so they know I could not do anything to hurt another human being and they are right.

Respectful mongering is a very positive life style. There are millions upon millions of poor women and men who benefit from sex tourist and all are not sex workers. These benefits keep these poor people alive, out of the gutter, and enable them to have a chance of a better life.

So who ever said our hobby is immoral is a liar, stupid or both. Treat people w / respect no matter what proffession they find themselves in and the world is a better place.

I think more guys should speak up about what they want in life. There is no credible authority to say mongering is bad for society, on the contrary allowing the flow of nature is always the best option. Fucking Always.

My 2 pesos

ForceSteeler
02-03-14, 15:57
Nevertheless I will give you my insight regarding our hobby. For the most part I'm an open book and I talk openly about my travels. I have lost friends, I have friends who don't want to see photos or hear about my exploits and then a few that get a kick out of my life style. I would say 20% of my male friends don't keep in touch anymore. 60% of my friends do not want to hear about my travels and 20% are very interested. So that's my experience and I'm blue collar w / a varied bunch of friends.

I find it hard not to talk about it. Whenever possible I will challenge women w / my lifestyle and I will justify every aspect of it. They're usually amused when they ask me why I'm learning spanish and I reply so I can enjoy my beautiful Colombian hookers better. They are shocked but at the same time it makes sense to them and they either laugh or scratch their head in disbelief that I said it. I'm talking complete strangers here.

As far as my family and friends go they know me and how kind and considerate I am and have always been so they know I could not do anything to hurt another human being and they are right...Just understand in life everything is done for a reason. The reason why prostitution is illegal in America is because the Government / Corporate America wants pussy whipped men, pussy whipped men is good for business.

By Legalizing Prostitution the value of pussy would drop overnight. Why put up with all that stress of the whole dating processes and putting up with women bullshit when I can just buy some pussy at the local Walmart.

The more pussy whipped men you have, the more garbage they will buy, from expensive cars, gifts, etc. All to impress women.

Socker
02-03-14, 19:19
just understand in life everything is done for a reason. the reason why prostitution is illegal in america is because the government / corporate america wants pussy whipped men, pussy whipped men is good for business.

by legalizing prostitution the value of pussy would drop overnight. why put up with all that stress of the whole dating processes and putting up with women bullshit when i can just buy some pussy at the local walmart.

the more pussy whipped men you have, the more garbage they will buy, from expensive cars, gifts, etc. all to impress women.i trust nature not commerce and you're right american men are being played to the hilt. i must have spent several hundred thousand dollars chasing pussy when my counterparts in colombia just need a little money and a bus ride to the pussy store (casa).

how many american males will get pulled over tonight w / a few beers in them trying to get laid. how many will spend the night in jail, lose thousands, and live thru this kind of harassment i/e dui school.

how many will drunk drive and hurt someone looking to get laid.

how many [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) would never have happened had prostitution been legal the last 100 years.

the defenders of anti prostitution laws have always said [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is not about sex it's about power. i and a zillion others bought into that line but w / more years and experience i realize now it is pure horseshit. sex for men 90% of the time is about ejaculation. as for power and dominance being a component of sexual intercourse sure it is after ejaculation. power and dominance is involved in all physical activity, in checkers, in the classroom, making dinner.

american males are suckers and they're eating shit in their own country and it's only getting worse. if you're a horn dog it's because nature wants you to be a horn dog. if you're a guy that is totally uninterested in sex it's because that's natures intent. the problem is one group of humans (american women and the church) demands on the other (the horn dogs).

more harm comes from their unjust laws then if nature was allowed to flow the way it is design by a higher power.

fight the power.

public enemy

SavePros321
02-03-14, 19:40
Just understand in life everything is done for a reason. The reason why prostitution is illegal in America is because the Government / Corporate America wants pussy whipped men, pussy whipped men is good for business.

By Legalizing Prostitution the value of pussy would drop overnight. Why put up with all that stress of the whole dating processes and putting up with women bullshit when I can just buy some pussy at the local Walmart.

The more pussy whipped men you have, the more garbage they will buy, from expensive cars, gifts, etc. All to impress women.This is one of the best breakdowns of how fucked up the game is in the US that I have read in a long while. This should be pinned at the top of the forum somewhere.

Definitely easy to make the comparison of the Latin (machismo) culture versus the US.

Don't forget the most male pussy-whipped day is coming up on the 14th of this month. I can see the corporations already rubbing their hands together at how much money they will rake in from desperate US males trying to get laid. Both single AND married!

SavePros321
02-03-14, 20:03
Sex for men 90% of the time is about ejaculation.That's all it's ever been when you break it down. Thinking back to our primal days, it consisted of just fucking and eating (hunting for food). Everything else these days (money, job, fancy car, house, dating) are just dressed up formalities that take men on an indirect route to what we are truly are trying to get to (pussy).

Member #4287
02-03-14, 20:04
i trust nature not commerce and you're right american men are being played to the hilt. i must have spent several hundred thousand dollars chasing pussy when my counterparts in colombia just need a little money and a bus ride to the pussy store (casa).

how many american males will get pulled over tonight w / a few beers in them trying to get laid. how many will spend the night in jail, lose thousands, and live thru this kind of harassment i / e dui school.

how many will drunk drive and hurt someone looking to get laid.

how many [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) would never have happened had prostitution been legal the last 100 years.

the defenders of anti prostitution laws have always said [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is not about sex it's about power. i and a zillion others bought into that line but w / more years and experience i realize now it is pure horseshit. sex for men 90% of the time is about ejaculation. as for power and dominance being a component of sexual intercourse sure it is after ejaculation. power and dominance is involved in all physical activity, in checkers, in the classroom, making dinner.

american males are suckers and they're eating shit in their own country and it's only getting worse. if you're a horn dog it's because nature wants you to be a horn dog. if you're a guy that is totally uninterested in sex it's because that's natures intent. the problem is one group of humans (american women and the church) demands on the other (the horn dogs).

more harm comes from their unjust laws then if nature was allowed to flow the way it is design by a higher power.

fight the power.

public enemyif you legalized prostitution in the us there would be a few more prostitutes available but not nearly enough to bring the price of pussy down significantly.

for the price of pussy to go down in the us a lot would have to change.

1) get rid of welfare and food stamps.

2) change family laws that give the majority of marital assets to women with children.

3) outlaw alimony.

4) get rid of equal pay for equal work laws.

5) some how convince dumb american men to stop marrying and or otherwise cohabitating with women that have some other guys children.

SavePros321
02-03-14, 20:17
If you legalized prostitution in the US there would be a few more prostitutes available but not nearly enough to bring the price of pussy down significantly.

For the price of pussy to go down in the US a lot would have to change.

1) Get rid of welfare and food stamps.

2) Change family laws that give the majority of marital assets to women with children.

3) Outlaw alimony.

4) Get rid of equal pay for equal work laws.

5) Some how convince dumb American men to stop marrying and or otherwise cohabitating with women that have some other guys children.I agree with this 100%!

Big Dogie
02-03-14, 23:27
I agree with this 100%!It is obvious why you two have to pay for sex, you hate women, especially poor woman. I am surprised you can find women that will fuck you for money, I guess once they get to know you that is off the table.

B D

Manny51
02-04-14, 00:53
If you legalized prostitution in the US there would be a few more prostitutes available but not nearly enough to bring the price of pussy down significantly.

For the price of pussy to go down in the US a lot would have to change.

1) Get rid of welfare and food stamps.

2) Change family laws that give the majority of marital assets to women with children.

3) Outlaw alimony.

4) Get rid of equal pay for equal work laws.

5) Some how convince dumb American men to stop marrying and or otherwise cohabitating with women that have some other guys children.All your arguments are just political rhetoric and angst-ridden moral pleas. The bottom line in economics is, if supply goes up, the price comes down. Not only would supply go up, but the hidden cost of pimps to organize and "protect" prostitutes would disappear. If women can act as solo free agents, the barrier to entry disappears, more prostitutes, lower price.

SavePros321
02-04-14, 01:15
It is obvious why you two have to pay for sex, you hate women, especially poor woman.It's obvious that your grade school should block you from accessing this site while you are in class until they learn you the difference between singular and plural nouns, and how they are used in a sentence, douchebag.

It's also obvious that you would end up being this poor schmuck:

"her second husband paid her way through law school and she divorced him the day after the last payment was made":

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/19/Liar-in-Pink-Shoes-Wendy-Davis-s-Composite-Life

But I'm done. Do not want to turn the Medellin thread into the American Women thread (that resides in the opinions section of this forum: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1078-American-Women).

Member #4394
02-04-14, 02:31
Ditto, though I do not want to contribute to the American Women thread.


All your arguments are just political rhetoric and angst-ridden moral pleas. The bottom line in economics is, if supply goes up, the price comes down. Not only would supply go up, but the hidden cost of pimps to organize and "protect" prostitutes would disappear. If women can act as solo free agents, the barrier to entry disappears, more prostitutes, lower price.

ForceSteeler
02-04-14, 03:53
This is one of the best breakdowns of how fucked up the game is in the US that I have read in a long while. This should be pinned at the top of the forum somewhere.

Definitely easy to make the comparison of the Latin (machismo) culture versus the US.

Don't forget the most male pussy-whipped day is coming up on the 14th of this month. I can see the corporations already rubbing their hands together at how much money they will rake in from desperate US males trying to get laid. Both single AND married!Yeah people don't understand that it all comes down too money and the bottom line. You have to understand its all a hustle. The US Government and corporate America are always thinking of new ways to get you to spend money on bullshit.

Just like the whole feminism movement and equal rights for women. When you look deeper into history, most people don't know that the whole feminism movement was socially engineered by bankers.

To put women out of the home and put women to work.

The bankers wanted a 2 income household instead of 1, so they can drive up the price of real estate. I can go even deeper but lets get back to mongering.

What I love about mongering is that it really teaches you the value of being a man. Thank god I started traveling and experiencing new things, I would have been the typical stress out zombie, going into to debt, trying to buy material things

That won't bring any real true happiness.

===========================================

Greetings,

I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...

Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Member #4244
02-04-14, 06:15
Does anyone have a fucking REPORT to submit?

This is getting out of hand.

I will try and get this back on track but I don't get to MDE until the 11th.

We're here to talk about pussy, not hold some symposium on gender studies and political science. I didn't bomb myself with drugs until graduation for nothing, that shit was boring in college, too!

Member #4244
02-04-14, 06:28
I tried again today and I got pissed off. Calle 57 turns into 50a right when it hits Bolivar. I asked a few people and they all sent me in different directions. Even a street sweeper with a map on his lanyard couldn't tell me where it was. Sorry.

The prices for Lindas Chicas that I was quoted was to include the room as well.

I totally agree with repeating at casas. I just got my world rocked by a repeat. She went to town on DATY and DFK and BBBJ. Couldn't have asked for a better session. No amount was discussed but I gave her a 10K tip. No real complaints.

By the way Parque Periodista has been taken over by the cops for two nights in a row now. I didn't see one for two weeks then all of a sudden they are coming down hard on the sellers. Be CarefulPeriodista has cops come by and shake it down a couple times every week. It's funny because otherwise it's pretty safe, albeit unseemly to an observer. If you know people it's fine to hang out, I guess, but overall it's a go-through place, not a go-to place. The quality of goods for sale there is also nothing to write home about, it's all about convenience and with two squad cars parked on either side there's nothing convenient about it.

Concarne
02-04-14, 07:30
Periodista has cops come by and shake it down a couple times every week. It's funny because otherwise it's pretty safe, albeit unseemly to an observer. If you know people it's fine to hang out, I guess, but overall it's a go-through place, not a go-to place. The quality of goods for sale there is also nothing to write home about, it's all about convenience and with two squad cars parked on either side there's nothing convenient about it.I never been in this area but was planning on visiting on my upcoming trip. I read that there is one cool bar that has some good salsa dancing nearby. Anyone know about such a place? Is it Eslabon?

At any rate I will be around MDE in 2 weeks and will be doing the casa and centro troll as well as mayorista, etc.

One thing I am wondering is if anyone knows of current amanacederos. Like La Manzana. Are there others currently operating?

Many thanks. Oh and if anyone wants to meet. Cervezas on me.

Concarne

Socker
02-04-14, 07:31
Does anyone have a fucking REPORT to submit?

This is getting out of hand.

I will try and get this back on track but I don't get to MDE until the 11th.

We're here to talk about pussy, not hold some symposium on gender studies and political science. I didn't bomb myself with drugs until graduation for nothing, that shit was boring in college, too!It's been out of hand for months. Most guys here post extraneous shit and not current on the ground info. You and a couple others do. I'll chip in mańana.

Member #4287
02-04-14, 09:43
All your arguments are just political rhetoric and angst-ridden moral pleas. The bottom line in economics is, if supply goes up, the price comes down. Not only would supply go up, but the hidden cost of pimps to organize and "protect" prostitutes would disappear. If women can act as solo free agents, the barrier to entry disappears, more prostitutes, lower price.I'm not advocating anything here. Just pointing out some differences between the US and the pussy paradise that we all know and love Colombia. Although I left a couple of other significant factors out such as abortions are illegal and puritan protestant values aren't ingrained in it's culture. There is also a tolerance towards prostitution in Colombia that will just never fulling exist in the US.

I guess we can pretend that social programs that protect women and children in the States and the vast difference in economic opportunities that are available to women in the US compared to Colombia will have no impact on the the percentage of women that would ultimately choose to sell there asses in the States if it were to become legal. But I don't believe that is the case. A smaller percentage of women in the US will pick the chosen career field of professional services compared to women in other countries with less economic opportunities. So you can pretty much stop dreaming about the loads of fresh hot young pussy that would be lining up to service you if it were only LEGAL. LMFAO!

If I were to guess what legal prostitution in the US would look like. I think it would be something similar to what is currently available in Germany where women have the just about the same social safety net and economic opportunities as in the US. And it isn't nearly as cheap nor as prevalent as in Colombia.

In the econ 101 class I took in college prices were determined by supply and DEMAND.

If prostitution were suddenly made legal in the US doesn't it seem at least plausible that demand for prostitutes might not just jump but skyrocket as well. One can go into any strip club in any city in the US full of pussy worshiping guys blowing through hundreds of dollars on table dances and just imagine what these love starved slobs would pay if it were actually legal to pay to fuck each and everyone of the girls that are dancing on stage like they would be able to do in Colombia. That kind of demand might push the price of pussy through the roof. LOL!

Artisttyp
02-04-14, 10:09
I never been in this area but was planning on visiting on my upcoming trip. I read that there is one cool bar that has some good salsa dancing nearby. Anyone know about such a place? Is it Eslabon?

At any rate I will be around MDE in 2 weeks and will be doing the casa and centro troll as well as mayorista, etc.

One thing I am wondering is if anyone knows of current amanacederos. Like La Manzana. Are there others currently operating?

Many thanks. Oh and if anyone wants to meet. Cervezas on me.The salsa bar is nice. Live bands on Tuesday and Thursdays.

The cops have been taking over Parque Periodista for a week now. Prior to that two weeks of no cops. If you 420 out there have your head on a swivel. Its doable but not without risk.

One joint is mot the end of the world but more than one and you are asking for trouble. The dealer told me NO NO NO drugs are not legal in Colombia! Not even consumo but cops will look the other way in some situations ie. Like one joint. The rest you hear about legalized in BS.

Be safe.

Isc55
02-04-14, 12:45
I have visited many times DR and I have visited BB, FOD, TAV, New Garden and others, and I love this kind of resorts. Now I think that in my next trip I could change and go to Colombia, perhaps Cartagena and / or Medellin.

I have read many threads of this forum and I have found many times La Mansion in Medellin, but I do not know how exactly it works:

Is it similar to BB, FOD or New Garden Hotel in Sosua?

Can anyone explain me clearly what can I expect there or how must I act?

Also, any others options in Medellin?

And, perhaps I am abusing, but, what about Cartagena?

Thanks in advance for your help!

C Jack Sparrow
02-04-14, 16:07
My paisa friends says "dosis personal" is legal to carry.




[QUOTE=Concarne; 1527647]I never been in this area but was planning on visiting on my upcoming trip. I read that there is one cool bar that has some good salsa dancing nearby. Anyone know about such a place? Is it Eslabon?

At any rate I will be around MDE in 2 weeks and will be doing the casa and centro troll as well as mayorista, etc.

One thing I am wondering is if anyone knows of current amanacederos. Like La Manzana. Are there others currently operating?

Many thanks. Oh and if anyone wants to meet. Cervezas on me..

Vegas Jeff
02-04-14, 19:50
Does anyone have a fucking REPORT to submit?Before I start I want to say that I agree with Socker and Wilt in that there is too much side talk that is way off topic in this thread.

On Friday I was all over the city. I started in The Centro Casas at noon and ended up at Fasay Dos around 3 am. Over the course of the day I met about 8-10 different mongers, most through Jonesie, at different places. I went into about 15 Centro casas over the course of the day. Nothing new to report as scene is mature and very little changing as usual. Went to the Centro Strip Clubs on Calle 53 around 10pm. Mediocre talent at best. I think it was 50k to 70k for 30 minutes of sex. I don't think there is a set price and must negotiate with the girl. I think the takeout charge was 50k. Centro daytime casas clearly have better talent than these places as far as their top 10 against the casas top 10. I have a friend staying in a hotel a few doors from Ejecutivo. He goes in to these places a few times a night, has a few beers, tips a few dancers, and has been pulling something about every other night. After the Centro Strip Clubs I went to Fasay Dos. This place clearly had the best talent of the day. Entrance fee was 10k. Price I was quoted was 180k for 45 minutes. I think takeout fee was 100k but not sure. I was charged 19k per beer. I did not pull anything as I had to many beers by this point. Everywhere I went was busy as Friday was 2 week payday for locals.

Saturday I ran around the Centro Casas again in the early part of the afternoon. Left Centro and went to Energy. Decent lineup of about 12 girls. Pulled a girl named Camila. Great experience. 120k 1hr. 20k BBBJ. When I got done I called Jonesie to find out that he was over at Blue Room. He had been to Abydos and he said that there were decent girls but he didn't pull anything. When I arrived at Blue room Jonesie said that a couple of guys he knew were in session and there was a smoking hot spinner inside. After the guy, who was doing the spinner, was done he reported that she gave him a BBBJ and she was worth doing. I popped inside to see this girl and she had my dream body. I tight spinner with a freaky hot waistline and ass. Although I had just had an hour session, and had nothing in me, I could not pass this up. Andrea. 100k 1 hr. 20k BBBJ. 20k bareback sex. After a 15 minute BBBJ and 15 minutes of sex I was having trouble staying hard. Although Andrea said she was new, and had only worked there for 2 weeks, she was not green. Normally when I go for bareback sex it is due to a strong connection but with Andrea it was all about the money and a little bedroom work and she was just so sexy I could not resist. I normally leave bareback sex out of write-ups but I really just don't care with her. With that being said she was one of the sexiest girls that one will find in the daytime scene. I would have done her again for the first time in a second but will not repeat.

On Sunday, I went to Liquid Lounge for the Super Bowl party. I found the location with relative ease yet I can see how others would have difficulty. The street is calle 26a in between calle 26 and calle 27 about 2 blocks from Premium Plaza. I could walk out the door of Premium Plaza and be inside of the Liquid Lounge in 3 minutes. First off I want to say that av8r is one of nicest business owners that I have met in the Third World. He is genuinely concerned that everyone at his place is happy and having a good time. I also met Colombia Jake who is another nice guy. He had two guys that were staying with him and they reported that they were having a good time with him. I was only at Liquid Lounge from an hour before the game until the game was over so can't really give a good assessment. The game was on the big screen and as Jake said,"this is a guy's day to hang out and watch football". In addition I had 5k USD on Seattle and I have trouble relaxing with a decent sized bet on a game. Fortunately I got an easy result with little stress. There were at least 20 girls at Liquid Lounge, over the course of the game, and I would say that the overall talent was good. I also saw a few sweet, new girls that I would have pulled if I had been in the right mood. By the end of the game, due to it being a blowout, only a few people were still there. I wish av8r luck with his transition into a nightclub. Someone in a month or so will have to give a write up after they transition into a nightclub.

A couple of general observations. I was very surprised at the low level of Spanish, on average, of the mongers that I met had. Some guys had none. What can these guys expect with no way to communicate? Also, most of the guys that I talked with were having, on average, negative experiences with Facebook. I could not give them advice as I never met a girl through an online website in my life. I would advice guys to stay at The Mansion until your Spanish level gets up to a basic level. At least you will have a base of hot girls to have sex with. I do almost all of my mongering in the daytime and do not go out at night often. If I were forced into the night scene, and was on a short trip in Medellin for the first time, I would fork up the extra money and go to Fasay Dos, La Isla, or Liquid Lounge and pull girls out for a few hours to TLN. I also want to add that I spoke with a ton of people recently from Casa Managers to Security Guards to Taxi Drivers and all report that Medellin is very calm right now as far as danger is concerned.

Well back to my simple life for a while. I will make a few trips a week into Centro going forward. Other than that I will be spending time with my girlfriend and having girls to the apartment that I already know.

Good luck to all,

VJ

Artisttyp
02-04-14, 20:33
My paisa friends says "dosis personal" is legal to carry.

If you are a local with one joint YEAH not much of a problem. The rest I will leave up to everybody's imagination.

Been 420 since I was a young boy. I am aware and then again I am aware.

The funny thing is I met a few gringos who thinks it is legal and want to argue the fact with me. I just stood there chuckling at the misconceptions.

Otherwise women get a free ride. Let the chica hold your doob.By all means do what makes you feel comfortable.

Socker
02-04-14, 21:01
I was in Meddy early January and stayed at El Castillo for 8 days. I hit the ground running as usually and stumbled for a couple of days and then chilled out. That's what happens almost every tip to Medellin because the minute I leave the clock starts ticking on my anticipated return. I am so jacked up when I see Hector and get to El Castillo I usually do something I shouldn't but always do. Anyway I'll stick w / beer next trip.

The selection of chicas at the hotel was pretty nice w / different flavors everyday and night. The day time crew which shows up poolside in # 1 is very nice and fun to be around. There were a few I regret not taking and one 18 yr old I'm glad I did. Nothing as nice as ample 18 yr old tit and she had nice ones. She was shy and a little offish but I eventually I got a good performance out of her in the late afternoon, her name Laura (blonde w / braces).

The nights at La Cueva were always fun w / plenty of chicas always very happy. When Roberts there it's fun to watch him partying w / all the girls, they love him. Man can he let loose. I like all the owners there, they all have a completely different personality and they are all kind and helpful.

Back to the women. I spent all my time working the mansion chicas and only got away one night to the Liquid Strip and the El Centro strip clubs. I usually visit La Mayorista and a casa or two but this time I was lazy. Plus I lost one full day because of the squirts, had to stay near the bano. That was a Saturday and I heard the LS was really good that night so I'm disappointed that I missed a good night at the Liquid Strip. When I was there I met Alejandra and really liked her looks and demeanor. I took her number but she would not answer so it was lucky for me a few nights later she was at La Cueva and I jumped on her. I give her high marks she was a good fuck and fun to hang w\. She has a model like body w / her beautiful long straight hair, total babe (imb).

Wherever I travel I usually find one that I want more than one time and this trip was no exception. She is a chica I've seen many times before but wasn't interested because there are so many lookers available. This trip on the Sunday BBQ (if you can call it that) at # 1 I am sitting there w / the other guest and chicas and I notice the body on K (I'll just use her initial) and I remember other friends telling me she was insatiable in the sack. So we ended up together and I saw her three nights in total. One night just us and then the next two in different 3somes and I must say I am still in awe of my nights w / her. She is bi so she was into the chicas as much as w / me and I mean serious pussies grinding together w / intense passionate kissing. I was up close and personal w / this kind of action and I got to say it was the best 3some of my life. The next night (and my last) was an even better cast so my girl K was stellar in the art of romance and fun. I fell a little for her but the last night w / this spectacular babes turned into a mini nightmare because w / were drinking heavily and then something else was introduced and I could not perform the way I wanted. All the while I have a 3am airport pickup w / Hector and so I am thinking about that fact all the while I'm w / the two killer honeys.

So the last good memory I have of that night was the young one eating K's pussy and K laying there watching and smiling. The young one was on her stomach (while sucking pussy) and I am looking at the best body I have ever had the pleasure of seeing and touching. The young one was off the charts in her body, I have not seen better.

So I ended up finishing my packing in the dark while these two creatures were laying face down sleeping w / no covers on. Just two perfect bodies sleeping away their pleasure while I had to fucking get out of Medellin in the wee hours of the morning. This was about the worst feeling I've ever had w / no relief insight. I packed the TV remote control.

That was my last night.

I had a long layover in El Salvador so I went to the beach w / my brother the next day and suffer my hangover w / him.

Arriving back home and leaving the pussy playground is not getting easier as I get older. Especially when you think you made a connection w / one of the chicas which I did. With K I took care of her really well. Took her to the casino (her first time) gave her 50, 000 and she won another 60, 00, gave her really nice lingerie, always had a nice propina for her. Every night I saw her I let her decide whether it was short time or TLN and she always wanted TLN. From her actions while I was there I thought there was a nice connection between us and man was I wrong about that.

Since I've been back not even a hola, jaja. I sent her a pm on FB and told her if I had done something to make her unhappy that I was sorry about it. I'm talking to a brick wall. And so the lessons continue. Many times these chicas are so mercenary and I feel unnecessarily so. But I have never walked in there shoes so I will not be negative about it. It's nice to establish new friends or even acquaintances but I am not 30 and my spanish is getting better but still weak so I read the writing on the wall. Don't expect any pleasantries or acknowledgements from these ladies. If it happens that's nice but it is rare.

With K I did go thru a week of disappointment back at home, a simple hello (from her) was all I was hoping for. I am not going to be there again until August so I am not interested in any romantic obligation, just a happy hello once a month. Jaja, but no, this is their world and they do things the way they need to do them. I respect that. I will also be less generous on my next trip, much less generous.

When I was young I had a lot of game and a little of that visual game is still left at 61 but this trip I learned that I my game is meaningless. It matters not what you give on top of the asking price. They either have the time to say hello or they don't. The sun either shines or it doesn't.

My trip was spectacular and I love Colombia. I will continue to struggle learning espanol and I see the improvements daily but I do have a terribly long way to go.

Is there anything else? Yeah, there are some gems at the mansion. I'm very happy and thank the owners and staff of the Hotel Medellin Plaza.

Pics later in the PG.

Socker
02-04-14, 21:17
I was in Meddy early January and stayed at El Castillo for 8 days. I hit the ground running as usually and stumbled for a couple of days and then chilled out. That's what happens almost every tip to Medellin because the minute I leave the clock starts ticking on my anticipated return. I am so jacked up when I see Hector and get to El Castillo I usually do something I shouldn't but always do. Anyway I'll stick w / beer next trip.

The selection of chicas at the hotel was pretty nice w / different flavors everyday and night. The day time crew which shows up poolside in # 1 is very nice and fun to be around. There were a few I regret not taking and one 18 yr old I'm glad I did. Nothing as nice as ample 18 yr old tit and she had nice ones. She was shy and a little offish but I eventually I got a good performance out of her in the late afternoon, her name Laura (blonde w / braces).

The nights at La Cueva were always fun w / plenty of chicas always very happy. When Roberts there it's fun to watch him partying w / all the girls, they love him. Man can he let loose. I like all the owners there, they all have a completely different personality and they are all kind and helpful.

Back to the women. I spent all my time working the mansion chicas and only got away one night to the Liquid Strip and the El Centro strip clubs. I usually visit La Mayorista and a casa or two but this time I was lazy. Plus I lost one full day because of the squirts, had to stay near the bano. That was a Saturday and I heard the LS was really good that night so I'm disappointed that I missed a good night at the Liquid Strip. When I was there I met Alejandra and really liked her looks and demeanor. I took her number but she would not answer so it was lucky for me a few nights later she was at La Cueva and I jumped on her. I give her high marks she was a good fuck and fun to hang w\. She has a model like body w / her beautiful long straight hair, total babe (imb).

Wherever I travel I usually find one that I want more than one time and this trip was no exception. She is a chica I've seen many times before but wasn't interested because there are so many lookers available. This trip on the Sunday BBQ (if you can call it that) at # 1 I am sitting there w / the other guest and chicas and I notice the body on K (I'll just use her initial) and I remember other friends telling me she was insatiable in the sack. So we ended up together and I saw her three nights in total. One night just us and then the next two in different 3somes and I must say I am still in awe of my nights w / her. She is bi so she was into the chicas as much as w / me and I mean serious pussies grinding together w / intense passionate kissing. I was up close and personal w / this kind of action and I got to say it was the best 3some of my life. The next night (and my last) was an even better cast so my girl K was stellar in the art of romance and fun. I fell a little for her but the last night w / this spectacular babes turned into a mini nightmare because w / were drinking heavily and then something else was introduced and I could not perform the way I wanted. All the while I have a 3am airport pickup w / Hector and so I am thinking about that fact all the while I'm w / the two killer honeys.

So the last good memory I have of that night was the young one eating K's pussy and K laying there watching and smiling. The young one was on her stomach (while sucking pussy) and I am looking at the best body I have ever had the pleasure of seeing and touching. The young one was off the charts in her body, I have not seen better.

So I ended up finishing my packing in the dark while these two creatures were laying face down sleeping w / no covers on. Just two perfect bodies sleeping away their pleasure while I had to fucking get out of Medellin in the wee hours of the morning. This was about the worst feeling I've ever had w / no relief insight. I packed the TV remote control.

That was my last night.

I had a long layover in El Salvador so I went to the beach w / my brother the next day and suffer my hangover w / him.

Arriving back home and leaving the pussy playground is not getting easier as I get older. Especially when you think you made a connection w / one of the chicas which I did. With K I took care of her really well. Took her to the casino (her first time) gave her 50, 000 and she won another 60, 00, gave her really nice lingerie, always had a nice propina for her. Every night I saw her I let her decide whether it was short time or TLN and she always wanted TLN. From her actions while I was there I thought there was a nice connection between us and man was I wrong about that.

Since I've been back not even a hola, jaja. I sent her a pm on FB and told her if I had done something to make her unhappy that I was sorry about it. I'm talking to a brick wall. And so the lessons continue. Many times these chicas are so mercenary and I feel unnecessarily so. But I have never walked in there shoes so I will not be negative about it. It's nice to establish new friends or even acquaintances but I am not 30 and my spanish is getting better but still weak so I read the writing on the wall. Don't expect any pleasantries or acknowledgements from these ladies. If it happens that's nice but it is rare.

With K I did go thru a week of disappointment back at home, a simple hello (from her) was all I was hoping for. I am not going to be there again until August so I am not interested in any romantic obligation, just a happy hello once a month. Jaja, but no, this is their world and they do things the way they need to do them. I respect that. I will also be less generous on my next trip, much less generous.

When I was young I had a lot of game and a little of that visual game is still left at 61 but this trip I learned that I my game is meaningless. It matters not what you give on top of the asking price. They either have the time to say hello or they don't. The sun either shines or it doesn't.

My trip was spectacular and I love Colombia. I will continue to struggle learning espanol and I see the improvements daily but I do have a terribly long way to go.

Is there anything else? Yeah, there are some gems at the mansion. I'm very happy and thank the owners and staff of the Hotel Medellin Plaza.

Pics later in the PG.

I hope the BMs here will not need to guess or say the names of the chicas in my TR unless I already did. Thanks.

PM me if you need to.

Member #4244
02-04-14, 21:23
My paisa friends says "dosis personal" is legal to carry.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1527686]It's true but even if you have a small amount sometimes they will jerk you around. Usually patience or potentially a few pesos will solve the problem. Typically I find law enforcement and petty criminals (perhaps redundant in many places) are much more likely to screw with a local for whatever reasons.

Vegas Jeff
02-04-14, 21:52
My trip was spectacular and I love Colombia. I will continue to struggle learning espanol and I see the improvements daily but I do have a terribly long way to go.

Is there anything else? Yeah, there are some gems at the mansion. I'm very happy and thank the owners and staff of the Hotel Medellin Plaza.

Pics later in the PG.Nice report, Socker. I empathize with your inability to get better at Spanish. It is very hard to get motivated and / or learn Spanish when you only have short trips. I made a bunch of trips for about 2 weeks at a time to CR and could never make much progress. Once I got more time I made huge leaps.

Most guys with a limited Spanish level struggle in Medellin. This is why it is important IMO to stay at The Mansion. In your case you found enough talent that you didn't even need to leave.

SavePros321
02-05-14, 00:58
I have visited many times DR and I have visited BB, FOD, TAV, New Garden and others, and I love this kind of resorts. Now I think that in my next trip I could change and go to Colombia, perhaps Cartagena and / or Medellin.

I have read many threads of this forum and I have found many times La Mansion in Medellin, but I do not know how exactly it works:

Is it similar to BB, FOD or New Garden Hotel in Sosua?

Can anyone explain me clearly what can I expect there or how must I act?

Also, any others options in Medellin?

And, perhaps I am abusing, but, what about Cartagena?

Thanks in advance for your help!Read the trip report that Socker just posted. If you still have questions after that, feel free to ask.

As far as I know there is no place like the ones you mentioned in Cartagena.

Artisttyp
02-05-14, 01:10
Two ounces or less. Luckily for me I packed my expensive cologne in my checked baggage. Otherwise they would have taken it from me.

Sailor Jim
02-05-14, 01:57
Two ounces or less. Luckily for me I packed my expensive cologne in my checked baggage. Otherwise they would have taken it from me.Those airport guys always smell amazing. Now I know why. Thanks for the tip, sorry I missed you but you were, ahem, busy. Great reports, thanks.

Asianpussylover
02-05-14, 02:45
If you are a local with one joint YEAH not much of a problem. The rest I will leave up to everybody's imagination.

Been 420 since I was a young boy. I am aware and then again I am aware.

The funny thing is I met a few gringos who thinks it is legal and want to argue the fact with me. I just stood there chuckling at the misconceptions.

Otherwise women get a free ride. Let the chica hold your doob. By all means do what makes you feel comfortable.AA.

MMMM i would not recommend anyone to push their luck in this regard. I once asked some cops for help eventhough i was completely skunked out on weed. They did not search me or anything. Fortunately i was clean. Most of my colombian friends walk around with a minimum of 3 bags of weed, ( much bigger than your rip off nickel bags in the US). That is way more than the personal use limit. But i think they are viewed as users were as you would be looked on as an associate of pablo escobar. In the minimum you would be reemed for a lot of money. Don't chance it.

Artisttyp
02-05-14, 02:46
Those airport guys always smell amazing. Now I know why. Thanks for the tip, sorry I missed you but you were, ahem, busy. Great reports, thanks.I still haven't checked my bags yet. Lets hope I am not out $300. Besides posting on mongering forums I also write fragrance reviews. I highly recommend www.luckyscents.com For some exquisite colognes that you won't find anywhere else. Samples are available for around $3/6 each. I purchase Amouage fragrances based in Oman.

www.basenotes.net And www.fragrantica.com

Thank You for your comments regarding my reports. I hope to meet you at some point.

Artisttyp

Socker
02-05-14, 20:44
Nice report, Socker. I empathize with your inability to get better at Spanish. It is very hard to get motivated and / or learn Spanish when you only have short trips. I made a bunch of trips for about 2 weeks at a time to CR and could never make much progress. Once I got more time I made huge leaps.

Most guys with a limited Spanish level struggle in Medellin. This is why it is important IMO to stay at The Mansion. In your case you found enough talent that you didn't even need to leave.thanks Jeff, I got a truckload of pms about it but zero feedback out here on the board.

The Medellin Report section should be full of good information one can use but you can see it's not. This fact makes most posters here look rather bad imo. If you have some general info then freaking post it in the correct section of the Colombian Forum. F* how hard is that? This place is a joke.

So Jeff, I'm not unable to learn I am slow at it and yes immersion is the fast way. This last trip I really wanted to be more fluid but I wasn't most times. I still enjoyed many conversations w / the mansion girls and it makes things much better. I can easily get along w / out The Mansion on the spanish I have now but why stay some where else.

I am not interested in the civie scene and the hottest hookers are at the mansion hands down. Once in a while I think it would be fun to stay in La Mayorista and play on the edge of the scene but I haven't yet. I have enjoyed some spectacular action in La Mayorista but haven't stayed at the hotels there yet. La Mayorista is the only place I've seen that interest me as much as The Mansion but The Mansion has much more in comfort and a better location.

La Mayorista is awesome on the weekends and I love the energy there w / the salsa blasting from the bars. It's not for everyone tho.

My TR took a big effort from me. I could have been doing something more productive. I hope this section gets BACK on track.

Ciao Bro!

Member #4244
02-05-14, 21:20
My best advice for learning Spanish is to get a regular or a small group of regulars on a long trip, as opposed to sampling liberally and not repeating.

If you are just in and out or spending one night, you will not really force yourself to get things right when speaking or listening.

If you are around the same person or people with regularity, several things happen. One, you have to pay attention, ask questions, clarify, etc, because what is being said kinda sorta means something. Two, you listen to them more and understand more from context, also they will introduce you to stuff in Spanish (music, TV shows, etc) where you can do the same. Lastly, you get accustomed to their accent, mannerisms, expressions, etc and it expedites the learning process considerably.

TweedleD
02-05-14, 21:36
My best advice for learning Spanish is to get a regular or a small group of regulars on a long trip, as opposed to sampling liberally and not repeating.

If you are just in and out or spending one night, you will not really force yourself to get things right when speaking or listening.

If you are around the same person or people with regularity, several things happen. One, you have to pay attention, ask questions, clarify, etc, because what is being said kinda sorta means something. Two, you listen to them more and understand more from context, also they will introduce you to stuff in Spanish (music, TV shows, etc) where you can do the same. Lastly, you get accustomed to their accent, mannerisms, expressions, etc and it expedites the learning process considerably.This works pretty well http://puramedellin.com/wp/speak-paisa/

SavePros321
02-05-14, 21:54
What's with all the forum cops here lately? I'm not one for stifling open conversation like this is Stalinist Russia or something. Sure this thread goes off on tangents sometimes, but most of us are well aware of how and when to get back on track without being browbeat about it all the time. Lighten the fuck up.

Most of the folks here complaining about not able to find the info they need are either too lazy to look for it (reading is hard, I know), or too cheap to pay for a subscription to PM others. I did my first few trips (ever) to Medellin without asking a single question in this thead. And this was during an intense flame war going on (in this thread). I READ; starting from 2009 and worked my way to present day (2012 at the time). Any out-of-date info was easily filled in by READING the Medellin Lists forum or PMing Senior. Members.

Open invitation to anyone who does not want to read my posts: just add me to your ignore list.

[steps off soapbox]

Vegas Jeff
02-06-14, 04:14
So Jeff, I'm not unable to learn I am slow at it and yes immersion is the fast way. This last trip I really wanted to be more fluid but I wasn't most times. I still enjoyed many conversations w / the mansion girls and it makes things much better. I can easily get along w / out The Mansion on the spanish I have now but why stay some where else.

I am not interested in the civie scene and the hottest hookers are at the mansion hands down. Once in a while I think it would be fun to stay in La Mayorista and play on the edge of the scene but I haven't yet. I have enjoyed some spectacular action in La Mayorista but haven't stayed at the hotels there yet. La Mayorista is the only place I've seen that interest me as much as The Mansion but The Mansion has much more in comfort and a better location.

La Mayorista is awesome on the weekends and I love the energy there w / the salsa blasting from the bars. It's not for everyone tho.

My TR took a big effort from me. I could have been doing something more productive. I hope this section gets BACK on track.

Ciao Bro!I am betting that you have the equivalent of about 15-20 hours of school. You probably have learned enough basic words / phrases to get you through very basic interactions. It's not about being fluid or speaking correctly but being able to communicate ideas. This is enough so that you can get out and about in Medellin and enough that to get good experiences with the girls. As you do this longer your Spanish will improve and things will become easier.

As far as the Mansion goes, the majority of guys are looking for a combination of looks and attitude and I agree with you that the Mansion is providing this. I have recommended the Mansion on this board repeatedly to guys on their first trip. Some guys continue to stay there while most will go off on their own in different directions. To each their own.


My best advice for learning Spanish is to get a regular or a small group of regulars on a long trip, as opposed to sampling liberally and not repeating.

If you are just in and out or spending one night, you will not really force yourself to get things right when speaking or listening.

If you are around the same person or people with regularity, several things happen. One, you have to pay attention, ask questions, clarify, etc, because what is being said kinda sorta means something. Two, you listen to them more and understand more from context, also they will introduce you to stuff in Spanish (music, TV shows, etc) where you can do the same. Lastly, you get accustomed to their accent, mannerisms, expressions, etc and it expedites the learning process considerably.Great advice and good examples. Nice post.

SavePros321
02-07-14, 00:54
Wendy announces her retirement today (could be a different story tomorrow, LOL). I will be setting up a separate thread to offering grief counseling and flight cancellation information since some of you plan your entire trip around Wendy, LOL.

Never had the pleasure, but never pursued either. My "Wendy(s)'" are just as fine, but not as famous, which is just how I like it :D

Remembering Wendy:

http://youtu.be/_50AduGvQAU

Manizales911
02-07-14, 01:47
Wendy announces her retirement today (could be a different story tomorrow, LOL). I will be setting up a separate thread to offering grief counseling and flight cancellation information since some of you plan your entire trip around Wendy, LOL.

Never had the pleasure, but never pursued either. My "Wendy (s) '" are just as fine, but not as famous, which is just how I like it.

Remembering Wendy:

http://youtu.be/_50AduGvQAUOkay, one of you guys fess up to taking her off the clock, That's got to be one fat western union payment every month as I 'm sure she didn't retire in exchange for a couple of free bandeja paisa meals, hahaha.

SavePros321
02-07-14, 02:31
Okay, one of you guys fess up to taking her off the clock, That's got to be one fat western union payment every month as I 'm sure she didn't retire in exchange for a couple of free bandeja paisa meals, hahaha.It probably was whoever it was that flew her into Miami last week, LOL.

Legal Tender
02-07-14, 05:58
It probably was whoever it was that flew her into Miami last week, LOL.She is flown to Miami (a wonderment that she got at tourist visa) and within a few days is "in a relationship." Facebook speak for "off the market, out of the business." It's an announcement of monogamy, in most circumstances.

Never having know Wendy in the biblical sense, no one can deny her legendary status; rivaled only by Geraldine a / k/a Demi Moore. I can see some older gringo waiting to parade her at the country club for the first time. He's got curves. A slightly rotund abdomen, and a wallet with a debit card and an American Express black card. Every man is envious and every woman hates her.

Whatever is the reality, she brought pleasure to many. Good for her!

Only good energy, to whomever thinks he can tame that cat!

Member #4244
02-07-14, 06:58
I hope the guy who "snagged" Wendy is legitimately rich so he can take the loss in stride. I am guessing the words "up front" appeared on his Google translate.

Coming back to the language thing, the shit that gets me are the guys who live in a country and / or have a girlfriend there for a year or more and still speak shit for Spanish. I mean, not to say most relationships between tourists and locals aren't anyway, but that seems like a sure sign this "relationship" was just a series of cash and dick deposits.

Legal Tender
02-07-14, 08:58
I hope the guy who "snagged" Wendy is legitimately rich so he can take the loss in stride. I am guessing the words "up front" appeared on his Google translate.

Coming back to the language thing, the shit that gets me are the guys who live in a country and / or have a girlfriend there for a year or more and still speak shit for Spanish. I mean, not to say most relationships between tourists and locals aren't anyway, but that seems like a sure sign this "relationship" was just a series of cash and dick deposits.Whomever Wendy's novio is, one thing you've got to admirer is that he found what he wanted and he bought it. I assume he is strong enough to take responsibility for his choices and never claims to be a "victim" even if the sole shareholder in Wendy's Inc defaults on her contractual obligations or fails to meet the novio's expectations. But he's getting a slice of her life at her sexual peak. Any "loss" is impossible if you have no expectations. Ride it as long as it lasts, pun intended.

I am personally offended by Wilt's comment and conclusion about "shit" Spanish speakers like me. That hurt. I give out a few scholarships and one of the requirements is ability to carry on a basis conversation in English at the end of three months of a course. That choice tells me if a girl is serious about improving herself and allows me to have a relationship and maintain a pathetic level of Spanish.

Only good energy Walt, we agree I'm sure, Wendy's novio is in for a hell of a ride

Manizales911
02-07-14, 15:51
She is flown to Miami (a wonderment that she got at tourist visa) and within a few days is "in a relationship." Facebook speak for "off the market, out of the business." It's an announcement of monogamy, in most circumstances.

Never having know Wendy in the biblical sense, no one can deny her legendary status; rivaled only by Geraldine a / k/a Demi Moore. I can see some older gringo waiting to parade her at the country club for the first time. He's got curves. A slightly rotund abdomen, and a wallet with a debit card and an American Express black card. Every man is envious and every woman hates her.

Whatever is the reality, she brought pleasure to many. Good for her!

Only good energy, to whomever thinks he can tame that cat!Maybe she is in on a K1 (fiance) visa.

Sailor Jim
02-07-14, 17:03
I am personally offended by Wilt's comment and conclusion about "shit" Spanish speakers like me. That hurt. I give out a few scholarships and one of the requirements is ability to carry on a basis conversation in English at the end of three months of a course. That choice tells me if a girl is serious about improving herself and allows me to have a relationship and maintain a pathetic level of Spanish.The Stilt mentioned "Guys who live in the country". You don't.

Having a girlfriend for over a year. You don't.

So please don't be offended by Mr Stilt's comments. You are a tuition officer, right? And you can communicate with your scholarship hookers because they are able to speak English, as a prerequisite. And that's what The Stilt meant and I paraphrase: "Ability to communicate with each other if you are in a serious long term relationship", if you read between the lines.

The majority of the time that language would be Spanish since it is the national language.

So you're good! Only good, and Only Good Energy!

Member #4244
02-07-14, 17:35
Whomever Wendy's novio is, one thing you've got to admirer is that he found what he wanted and he bought it. I assume he is strong enough to take responsibility for his choices and never claims to be a "victim" even if the sole shareholder in Wendy's Inc defaults on her contractual obligations or fails to meet the novio's expectations. But he's getting a slice of her life at her sexual peak. Any "loss" is impossible if you have no expectations. Ride it as long as it lasts, pun intended.

I am personally offended by Wilt's comment and conclusion about "shit" Spanish speakers like me. That hurt. I give out a few scholarships and one of the requirements is ability to carry on a basis conversation in English at the end of three months of a course. That choice tells me if a girl is serious about improving herself and allows me to have a relationship and maintain a pathetic level of Spanish.

Only good energy Walt, we agree I'm sure, Wendy's novio is in for a hell of a rideThe first paragraph quickly identifies this woman and / or her "affection" as a thing ("found what he wanted and bought it"). I also enjoyed the use of the phrase "sexual peak," which doesn't take mileage into account, apparently.

The guy threw down a pile of money for someone everyone here could have and probably did have for $75. He probably has the money, he probably knows what will happen, but that begs the question. Why do it? There is nothing to admire here. He's "in for a helluva ride," but he could have just stayed in town and monopolized her time for a while. I will share the best piece of advice anyone has ever given regarding this hobby and developing countries as a whole: You can't own someone, you can only rent them.

Further, while my comment was not directed toward you in any way, it may be telling that you took it to heart. You can figure that out for yourself.

Member #4244
02-07-14, 17:43
Maybe she is in on a K1 (fiance) visa.Those are the fastest (though not the easiest) to procure. It's pretty funny I was talking to a Peruvian girl down here who had one of those long-term lost in translation relationships with a Californian. It reached an impasse where he couldn't live in Peru anymore so he decided to bring her home and told her that they had to get married within 90 days (I think typically it's 180) but if she wanted they could do it three weeks after she got there. *SCREECHING BRAKES*

Maybe it's time for an actual report / recommendation. Anyone interested in the meeting this girl "from the beaver picture" (see) Maude Lebowski?

http://www.xvideos.com/video664346/dianita_descubre_a_nacho

This film is from 2011, she has since had her tits and waist re-done but also aged a little, obviously. PM me if you're interested in her info. "She's a good woman ... and thorough."

Archimedes
02-07-14, 21:29
As a USA citizen and veteran of a marriage / divorce to a foreign national (not Colombian), I want to share some information that anyone thinking of a K-1 fiance visa should know about. And probably does not.

As part of the K-1 process, the USA citizen is required to sign an affadavit of support. This obligates you to support your fiance after she enters the USA and before you get married. No big deal. Not a problem.

The pitfall is in the next step. After the wedding, your fiance must apply for an interim green card. As part of that process, you are required to sign a new, much longer affadavit of support, called Form I-864. Google "I-864" and read about it. You won't f'ing believe it. Or maybe you will, until you realize that your obligation to support your spouse does not terminate with divorce. You are on the hook to support her at 125% of poverty level (currently about $1500 / month) and reimburse governmental agencies for her medical and other public assistance costs they pay on her behalf.

How long does your obligation last? If she chooses not to get a job and does not remarry, the rest of your life.

I was told by two immigration attorneys that the I-864 is the "hot ticket" for women in Russia and Asia to set themselves up for life. My ex- gleaned information from other women from her country about how to play the process to avoid outright marriage immigration fraud. If they can convince a poor schmuck like me. Or you. To do a K-1, the rest is history. While there are a lot more details to know, bottom line is this: talk to an immigration attorney during the K-1 process. Specifically, ask them about the I-864.

In hindsight, I would never do it again. IMHO, if men knew what they were getting into, the I-864 makes a K-1 Visa a financially untenable undertaking. Hope this info helps.

Legal Tender
02-08-14, 01:12
I will share the best piece of advice anyone has ever given regarding this hobby and developing countries as a whole: You can't own someone, you can only rent them.
The Stilt mentioned "Guys who live in the country". You don't.

Having a girlfriend for over a year. You don't.

So please don't be offended by Mr Stilt's comments. You are a tuition officer, right?Wilt, I think that the advice made you tendered is true with any relationship with a woman, anywhere. Everyone has choices, but treating women as things to own is certainly unproductive in the long run. I'm just curious why anyone would be so critical and negative toward another human being that is struggling for a more tranquil, successful, and peaceful life. I'm certainly wishful that Wendy and her novio find some happiness and satisfaction in their "relationship."

Sailor Jim, I admit that I'm impressed by your ability to write so unambiguously about something that you know absolutely nothing about. I own an apartment in Medellin and spend approximately 40% of my time here (I'm in Medellin now) , in Bogotá or a couple of other cities where I have clients. And, to correct your factual misstatement, I have a relationship with the Colombian girl that has spanned more than 5 years. Obviously, I do not adhere to the concept of monogamy, outside marriage. But she is my novia. And, no, I'm not a "tuition officer" whatever that is. My foundation provides scholarships to several Colombian girls, as has been fully discussed previously.

Amigos, being positive is not just a pole on a battery.

SlamCity7777
02-08-14, 01:18
Those are the fastest (though not the easiest) to procure. It's pretty funny I was talking to a Peruvian girl down here who had one of those long-term lost in translation relationships with a Californian. It reached an impasse where he couldn't live in Peru anymore so he decided to bring her home and told her that they had to get married within 90 days (I think typically it's 180) but if she wanted they could do it three weeks after she got there. *SCREECHING BRAKES*

Maybe it's time for an actual report / recommendation. Anyone interested in the meeting this girl "from the beaver picture" (see) Maude Lebowski?

http://www.xvideos.com/video664346/dianita_descubre_a_nacho

This film is from 2011, she has since had her tits and waist re-done but also aged a little, obviously. PM me if you're interested in her info."She's a good woman. And thorough."RE Wendy: never was I able to book a date with her after years of trying. She was always way or flaked (did call / PM me several hours a head so gave me time to sort other arrangments out and now that I think of it sent me one of her girlfriends) so I don't know the real person in the flesh. That being said she was well reviewed and well loved by pretty much all the guys who laid the pipe to her! Hahahah! Those pretty, fun, cool, sexy girls always seem to be popular. Go figure!

Who knows what is actually going on but with the bread crumbs that we can follow we can see that 1 she went to Miami (some said it was a lie but what do we know?) she then posted a "Big thanks" to like 5ish well friended mongers on FB. Then BLAMO in a relationship and made a comment in espanol that I took to mean I am retired!

The dude. Let's say he knows the "full monty" and still wanted to be her man. She clearly felt / sees something in dude that no other gringo (assumption) was willing or able to give to her. It might be a $$$$ thing or it could be that they found something special and real. Nobody knows but them.

We all have a past, shit we're not proud or happy with, the trick in life is to move on the best you can.

I hope they give it a go and make it work. Then again it cold be just one huge joke that she's pullling.

Buckle up guys. I got. Wait for it: A real report about chicas!

It's a red letter day!

The last few trips I made it out to Lourtron I was so let down! All third stringers and gorditas! Girls I'd fuck back home but not in Medellin! Hahahha! This time I was very pleased with the line up; 12 girls (14?) with 5ish x 8-10s and 5ish 7-8's and 4ish nice girls. Think lower level mansion girls (from what I understand) but they just don't measure up.

Now before the "How much you pay!" or the Loutron Syndrome kicks in please consider that I'm staying up the hill so it's a quick cab or even a decent walk for me and time is very precious as I have a real deal novia who is awesome but not totally stupid! LOL! So my side adventures need to be short and sweet.

Had an amazing session with Melisa (?) super pretty, braces, all natural girl, body like porn star Veronika Rodrizes (google it!). CBJ but the rest was GFE.

As we were getting dress, watching her slid her panties back on her perfectly heart shaped ass. I got sprung again and we started into!

2 hours and a ton of beers cost me like $400+ COP. IMO Well worth it. I'd see her again

Manny51
02-08-14, 01:49
The first paragraph quickly identifies this woman and / or her "affection" as a thing ("found what he wanted and bought it"). I also enjoyed the use of the phrase "sexual peak," which doesn't take mileage into account, apparently.

The guy threw down a pile of money for someone everyone here could have and probably did have for $75. He probably has the money, he probably knows what will happen, but that begs the question. Why do it? There is nothing to admire here. He's "in for a helluva ride," but he could have just stayed in town and monopolized her time for a while. I will share the best piece of advice anyone has ever given regarding this hobby and developing countries as a whole: You can't own someone, you can only rent them.

Further, while my comment was not directed toward you in any way, it may be telling that you took it to heart. You can figure that out for yourself.I have never met this Wendy, but I have met Geraldine. If they are similar in fame and reputation, then I get the idea.

We should wait to hear from someone who knows them personally to make definitive statements about their relationship. However, I would offer a few thoughts. Why marry her when he could just pay for the sex? Marrying her exposes him to the risk of her taking everything. Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?

And I would echo the above sentiment. You can't buy love. You can only buy people.

LocoGringo
02-08-14, 02:17
I have never met this Wendy, but I have met Geraldine. If they are similar in fame and reputation, then I get the idea.

We should wait to hear from someone who knows them personally to make definitive statements about their relationship. However, I would offer a few thoughts. Why marry her when he could just pay for the sex? Marrying her exposes him to the risk of her taking everything. Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?

And I would echo the above sentiment. You can't buy love. You can only buy people.What's to worry? I know severa; guys that have married exhookers. Usually it seems that it harder for the monger to change than the puta. Guess it is easier to change the one getting jerked on than the jerkee. Anyway, good luck Wendy, you must have made a lot of guys smile.

Member #4287
02-08-14, 03:11
What's to worry? I know severa; guys that have married exhookers. Usually it seems that it harder for the monger to change than the puta. Guess it is easier to change the one getting jerked on than the jerkee. Anyway, good luck Wendy, you must have made a lot of guys smile.How far down this rabbit hole are some of you guys going to go. One of the biggest facebook BS'ers on the planet says she is in a relationship and now you have her married already. Jajaja.

Reading this tread makes me want to smoke a joint.

Not to change the subject, but is Boyd in town? And what night would be the best night of the week to hit Liquid on average?

Socker
02-08-14, 03:49
My foundation provides scholarships to several Colombian girls, as has been fully discussed previously.Just curious, only Colombian girls get the scholarships?

Manizales911
02-08-14, 16:44
How far down this rabbit hole are some of you guys going to go. One of the biggest facebook BS'ers on the planet says she is in a relationship and now you have her married already. Jajaja.How many Medellin h00kers do you know that have pictures of themselves in Miami? A K1 (fiance) visa is the most likely scenario. The USA does not hand out tourist visas to young Colombian women very easily, it is almost impossible.

Member #4244
02-08-14, 17:00
RE Wendy: never was I able to book a date with her after years of trying. She was always way or flaked (did call / PM me several hours a head so gave me time to sort other arrangments out and now that I think of it sent me one of her girlfriends) so I don't know the real person in the flesh. That being said she was well reviewed and well loved by pretty much all the guys who laid the pipe to her! Hahahah! Those pretty, fun, cool, sexy girls always seem to be popular. Go figure!

Who knows what is actually going on but with the bread crumbs that we can follow we can see that 1 she went to Miami (some said it was a lie but what do we know?) she then posted a "Big thanks" to like 5ish well friended mongers on FB. Then BLAMO in a relationship and made a comment in espanol that I took to mean I am retired!

The dude. Let's say he knows the "full monty" and still wanted to be her man. She clearly felt / sees something in dude that no other gringo (assumption) was willing or able to give to her. It might be a $$$$ thing or it could be that they found something special and real. Nobody knows but them.

We all have a past, shit we're not proud or happy with, the trick in life is to move on the best you can.

I hope they give it a go and make it work. Then again it cold be just one huge joke that she's pullling.

Buckle up guys. I got. Wait for it: A real report about chicas!

It's a red letter day!

The last few trips I made it out to Lourtron I was so let down! All third stringers and gorditas! Girls I'd fuck back home but not in Medellin! Hahahha! This time I was very pleased with the line up; 12 girls (14?) with 5ish x 8-10s and 5ish 7-8's and 4ish nice girls. Think lower level mansion girls (from what I understand) but they just don't measure up.

Now before the "How much you pay!" or the Loutron Syndrome kicks in please consider that I'm staying up the hill so it's a quick cab or even a decent walk for me and time is very precious as I have a real deal novia who is awesome but not totally stupid! LOL! So my side adventures need to be short and sweet.

Had an amazing session with Melisa (?) super pretty, braces, all natural girl, body like porn star Veronika Rodrizes (google it!). CBJ but the rest was GFE.

As we were getting dress, watching her slid her panties back on her perfectly heart shaped ass. I got sprung again and we started into!

2 hours and a ton of beers cost me like $400+ COP. IMO Well worth it. I'd see her again2for1 reply here, first off, LT, we are in agreement that trying to own someone is unproductive. That is what you're trying to do when you bring someone to the USA under the auspices of a potential marriage. As others have mentioned, that is most likely the case here. Can your Deepak Chopra bullshit about these people looking for tranquility. If that is what the guy is looking for, he isn't going to find it. Like I said, hopefully it's a "it ain't trickin' if you got it!" situation where the guy has enough money to waste on this surefire abortion of a relationship and, just as importantly, hasn't turned his heart over to this woman.

SlamCity thanks for the report on Loutron. I was curious if it had improved recently and I'm glad to hear it did. My only gripe with that place is the steadfast insistence on condoms for everything. The price is what it is, f they deliver the lineup they are capable of delivering, then it's not so bad. The setting is certainly a cut above the Barra Ejecutiva jajajaja.

Manny51
02-08-14, 17:51
What's to worry? I know severa; guys that have married exhookers. Usually it seems that it harder for the monger to change than the puta. Guess it is easier to change the one getting jerked on than the jerkee. Anyway, good luck Wendy, you must have made a lot of guys smile.There is nothing to worry about. If this Wendy is as popular as everyone says, then she actually may have given up income to be with this guy. And who am I to stand in the way of true love.

But on the flip side, just go to the Thailand forum. The path to true love is riddled with thousands of corpses of guys who believed the pillow talk.

SlamCity7777
02-08-14, 18:24
2for1 reply here, first off, LT, we are in agreement that trying to own someone is unproductive. That is what you're trying to do when you bring someone to the USA under the auspices of a potential marriage. As others have mentioned, that is most likely the case here. Can your Deepak Chopra bullshit about these people looking for tranquility. If that is what the guy is looking for, he isn't going to find it. Like I said, hopefully it's a "it ain't trickin' if you got it!" situation where the guy has enough money to waste on this surefire abortion of a relationship and, just as importantly, hasn't turned his heart over to this woman.

SlamCity thanks for the report on Loutron. I was curious if it had improved recently and I'm glad to hear it did. My only gripe with that place is the steadfast insistence on condoms for everything. The price is what it is, f they deliver the lineup they are capable of delivering, then it's not so bad. The setting is certainly a cut above the Barra Ejecutiva jajajaja.Ok so the first part was at LT correct? I was confused at first as it did not have to do with any of my post! at Stilt this at thing here is what the kids use to direct comments on FB and message boards. Or so I'm told! Jajajaja.

Dude the Condom thing. Boy they stick to that now or what! I'm guessing somebody got a bug or some shit becuase even the "buena propina" did not work! Like I said. Line up is solid, not 2000's NY Yankees solid but still full of home run hitters and a few bench warmers IMO.

When I have a chance I'll go back and try to snap some pics. Milisa (?) was very no photos which I hate but like Stilt said, the line up is IMO amazing and the setting is very nice, clean, near my apt, ect. So I like it. Not for the Chichipato crowd or the I'll fuck any girl crown.

They do take credit cards is also a huge factor in my book! Love those miles! Ahhahahhaa!

Member #4244
02-08-14, 18:26
For many of these girls and certainly someone like her, what you do is who you are.

Their mind doesn't work the way most people's mind works, neither do their emotions. They have a thought process and a way of doing things that transcends reason.

I like to offer an example / parallel from another walk of life. I know a guy, basically a rich hippie. His pops struck it rich mining, I mean we are talking tens of millions of dollars if not a couple hundred by now. The guy lived a sheltered life until 18 when he became a heroin junkie. Naturally, this led him into the supply side of the business, and he had a nice little racket running between his hometown and Philly with all sorts of drugs and cash changing hands.

Fast forward 20+ years, the guy has had a couple stints in jail (which could have been much longer if not for $$$) , two deaths (yes, twice declared dead and resuscitated) and all sorts of dope, this guy is still being supported 100% by his folks and STILL getting his nose dirty. His thinking is hustle, fast money, come up, get over. Even though he has absolutely no necessity to do so. He has enough money to support himself along with his various habits and hobbies, yet he is still out there putting himself at risk and getting involved with dicey stuff.

Same kinda thing I have seen in the hooking world. I know a girl, a career prepago with now eight years sold in the game. She has thrice had tickets out where she could have had her own home and seed money for her own business, but instead stiffed the guys on some small change as a stepping stone to her next whoring trip. Three times that I know about LOL.

SavePros321
02-08-14, 18:37
Same kinda thing I have seen in the hooking world. I know a girl, a career prepago with now eight years sold in the game. She has thrice had tickets out where she could have had her own home and seed money for her own business, but instead stiffed the guys on some small change as a stepping stone to her next whoring trip. Three times that I know about LOL.I guess some guys are into masochism. They purposely go out of their way to find the Sharon Stone character from the movie "Casino".