Medellin Reports

[Surf Looker]

Ok so we figure we find more cheaper budge lodging.

Now these colombians for "Daily options in MDE are 50 KCOP and nightly 100 KCOP" these arent the prices from Fase Dose or any of the other clubs.

Are these streetwalker prices, or massage parlor prices.

Is La Mayorista safe.


The majority of travelers don't stay at HDR or HMP. Both cities have got numerous lodging options for every budget. However, how many colombianas available and in business are in SJO at any given moment? There is no comparison. Daily options in MDE are 50 KCOP and nightly 100 KCOP. Won't find too many takers among colombianas in SJO at these levels.

[Surf Looker]

Also.

Is Wendy still there or in Miami.

Https: www. Facebook. Com / wendy. Dalila1?fref=ts.

Ok so we figure we find more cheaper budge lodging.

Now these colombians for "Daily options in MDE are 50 KCOP and nightly 100 KCOP" these arent the prices from Fase Dose or any of the other clubs.

Are these streetwalker prices, or massage parlor prices.

Is La Mayorista safe.

[Cubanut]

I think at Del Rey for a weekend you can get more girls for a lot less then you would pay in Medellin.

Please let me know if I am incorrect. Thank you.I do not want to single you out. But why be such a putz that you should have to make a decision of whether or not to visit Medellin based solely on how much money you will spend / save? Especially if it's such an insignificant amount?

I mean really, I can see if you are looking at a long term stay. But just a visit? Come on. Don't be a cheap Charlie to yourself. The experience you can have in Medellin can be awesome or just OK, depending on how you go about it. But why deny yourself the opportunity to see for yourself just because you "calculate" it will cost a few more (or less) bucks?

You will always hear mongers say GOOD and BAD things about Medellin, the Mansion, Parque, LLeras, the El Central Casas, the Upscale Casas Mayorista, The strip clubs etc. It depends on who's reports (s) you are reading.

Do yourself a favor and "Begin the Beguine".

Stay Horny My Friends.

Cubanut

[Manizales911]

Mansion I believe is called Hotel Medellin Plaza and rooms go for $150 USD to over $200 USD a night.

Del Rey in SJ CR is $65 a night includes taxes. The prices you are quoting for rooms at Medellin Plaza are incorrect sir. You are quoting in dollars when the prices on their website are in pesos.

[Member #4301]

Ok so we figure we find more cheaper budge lodging.

Now these colombians for "Daily options in MDE are 50 KCOP and nightly 100 KCOP" these arent the prices from Fase Dose or any of the other clubs.

Are these streetwalker prices, or massage parlor prices.

Is La Mayorista safe.The Centro Casas (or I guess you could call them massage parlours) all cost about the same which is around 35 k for 30 minutes. They may charge you 2 k or so looking fee if you don't take a girl.

Mayorista is safe but better to get a pre-booked taxi there and back. Pre-booked is better as they are traceable.

[Ricker]

What about La Mayorista and picking up girl on the street, I am sure they would charge less, but are good looking ones and is the AREA SAFE.

At this point. When you factor plane ticket costs from USA to either Costa Rica or Medellin, the hotel costs, and girl costs.

I think at Del Rey for a weekend you can get more girls for a lot less then you would pay in Medellin.

Please let me know if I am incorrect. Thank you. Sounds like San Jose is perfect for your game plan and budget, though the Mansion is plentyful and fun too.

The Mayorista is not for the Gringo Gulch SJO type guy.

Takes time and patience there really to strike gold.

One thing for sure is, most of those Colombianas on the circuit, that travel to SJO, Curacao and the Islands, are more hardened and professional than the native Colombiana.

Not always, but in general.

Hitting Colombia is more for the adventurer than the pure ease of Hotel del Rey and back, though one could spend his whole time in the Mansion if desired.

Me, well I'd choose the Mansion any day over the Gringo Gulch.

Sin duda!

Good luck!

[Surf Looker]

UPDATE:

Thank you. Mansion / Medellin Plaza I have been told their prices on website is meant to be in Pesos.

Therefore the rooms are $65 USD and up which is in line with Del Rey prices.

Is there a chica fee there as well?

In Mansion / Medellion Plaza what is rate for the chicas?

For Short term.

For Long Term.

Quality of girls in MANSION / Medellin PLaza:

There used to be a Wendy who was 8 or 9 or 10 rating in terms of looks or body. I would give her 8. 5 based on her pics.

Are there more girls like her at MANSION / Medellin Plaza.

She is on facebook, Wendy InnC.


Sounds like San Jose is perfect for your game plan and budget, though the Mansion is plentyful and fun too.

The Mayorista is not for the Gringo Gulch SJO type guy.

Takes time and patience there really to strike gold.

One thing for sure is, most of those Colombianas on the circuit, that travel to SJO, Curacao and the Islands, are more hardened and professional than the native Colombiana.

Not always, but in general.

Hitting Colombia is more for the adventurer than the pure ease of Hotel del Rey and back, though one could spend his whole time in the Mansion if desired.

Me, well I'd choose the Mansion any day over the Gringo Gulch.

Sin duda!

Good luck!

[Surf Looker]

Thanks Ricardo.

Even though I have posted reports from my experiences in other places, and answered PMs, I NEVER get upset when people asked me questions that were redundant or answered in other posts.

CHILL OUT.

If someone doesn't follow Thread daily, it is very hard to go thru hundreds of posts to find answers.

There will ALWAYS be redundant questions because there will always be newbies and PAID members, senior members, who will ask the same questions. Even after doing searches it's not always easy to find the answers.


For crying out loud, read the fricking Medellin thread. You want to be spoon fed and hopefully this will not happen. Your questions are redundant. Better yet, go to the Del Rey.

[Surf Looker]

Ok I want to see these Esperanza Gomez type women. So have to go to Medellin.

Thanks for all the input.

Will PM if any more questions.


Thanks Ricardo.

Even though I have posted reports from my experiences in other places, and answered PMs, I NEVER get upset when people asked me questions that were redundant or answered in other posts.

CHILL OUT.

If someone doesn't follow Thread daily, it is very hard to go thru hundreds of posts to find answers.

There will ALWAYS be redundant questions because there will always be newbies and PAID members, senior members, who will ask the same questions. Even after doing searches it's not always easy to find the answers.

[Manizales911]

UPDATE:

Thank you. Mansion / Medellin Plaza I have been told their prices on website is meant to be in Pesos.

Therefore the rooms are $65 USD and up which is in line with Del Rey prices.

Is there a chica fee there as well?

In Mansion / Medellion Plaza what is rate for the chicas?

For Short term.

For Long Term.

Quality of girls in MANSION / Medellin PLaza:

There used to be a Wendy who was 8 or 9 or 10 rating in terms of looks or body. I would give her 8. 5 based on her pics.

Are there more girls like her at MANSION / Medellin Plaza.

She is on facebook, Wendy InnC. I could tell you to RTFF but I won't,I'm not an a-hole. Here are your answers:

No chica fee at the Medellin Plaza.

The girls are freelancers so you technically can negotiate whatever fee you can but they pretty much have a little 'union" of sorts there and the fee for ST is 150 K.

Many girls frown upon LT because they either feel as though they can make more doing several ST's in a night or they have kids at home, but it's going to be about 350 K.

Quality of girls is subjective, I'll leave that question alone.

I hope this helps.

[FoxesHunter]

Hola mongers, some years ago I went to Valledupar and Barranquilla. In these towns there were a lot of casas with many girls who were waiting for customers. Girls were normal girls and they did normal jobs like in hairdressers, supermarkets etc. Etc. But they wanted to supplement their income. You could pick up a girl for the night immediately, as soon as the customer arrived, without problem. You were talking with a girl and you can take out her for the night (and she was enough cheap too). I don't think if "casa" is the right word but I liked a lot those options.

I'm reading posts on Medellin Forum but I am noticing Medellin is very lacking about hose options or. Here guys don't know those kind "casas" Some info?

[Bottom Feeder]

It was some kind of holiday but las chicas didn't seem to take the day off. I started at Conejitas Bar Show (Strip Club) and against my better judgment took Sophie upstairs for 30 min which they cut to 25. I was pissed. No tip, no return. Then I went to Mayorista and found a tiny black girl. She had the eyes of a criminal. Just my type. She said 30 k for an hour and said that she was honesta. OK then, let's give it a go. She gave great service even if she kept trying to up the price. Lo siento babe. I kept re-arranging her head to the right location over my pistola. She worked hard, had a sexy body. At the end she was spent and sweatier than me. Aw gad it was wonderful, even a little milk. I paid her and she was happy but I felt a little guilty. Me! Bottom Feeder guilty! I gave her a 10 k tip. She crossed herself and said a quick prayer! Well, I gota do her again! Then I caught a taxi and had the bugger take me to YAKUSA. I call him a bugger cause he farted around for 15 minutes. I even dialed the phone number and handed him the phone which he refused. Finally we arrived. It was 10 meters from my hotel, Plaza Botero. The meter said 10 k. I told him that he could have talked to them 5 k ago and told him to fuck off and gave him 5 k and staired him down. This I never do but. He left. I paid 40 k for 30 minutes but the gal actually spent about 45 with me as we laughed a lot. Hey, I was spent. She gave me her phone # and the address of her gymnasio where I'm going to meet her now.

Thanks Matt for the incredible maps and info!

[Member #4394]

It was some kind of holiday but las chicas didn't seem to take the day off. I started at Conejitas Bar Show (Strip Club) and against my better judgment took Sophie upstairs for 30 min which they cut to 25. I was pissed. No tip, no return. Then I went to Mayorista and found a tiny black girl. She had the eyes of a criminal. Just my type. She said 30 k for an hour and said that she was honesta. OK then, let's give it a go. She gave great service even if she kept trying to up the price. Lo siento babe. I kept re-arranging her head to the right location over my pistola. She worked hard, had a sexy body. At the end she was spent and sweatier than me. Aw gad it was wonderful, even a little milk. I paid her and she was happy but I felt a little guilty. Me! Bottom Feeder guilty! I gave her a 10 k tip. She crossed herself and said a quick prayer! Well, I gota do her again! Then I caught a taxi and had the bugger take me to YAKUSA. I call him a bugger cause he farted around for 15 minutes. I even dialed the phone number and handed him the phone which he refused. Finally we arrived. It was 10 meters from my hotel, Plaza Botero. The meter said 10 k. I told him that he could have talked to them 5 k ago and told him to fuck off and gave him 5 k and staired him down. This I never do but. He left. I paid 40 k for 30 minutes but the gal actually spent about 45 with me as we laughed a lot. Hey, I was spent. She gave me her phone # and the address of her gymnasio where I'm going to meet her now.

Thanks Matt for the incredible maps and info!I sent you a PM a few months ago. Please check it out.

[Member #4301]

It was some kind of holiday but las chicas didn't seem to take the day off. I started at Conejitas Bar Show (Strip Club) and against my better judgment took Sophie upstairs for 30 min which they cut to 25. I was pissed. No tip, no return. Then I went to Mayorista and found a tiny black girl. She had the eyes of a criminal. Just my type. She said 30 k for an hour and said that she was honesta. OK then, let's give it a go. She gave great service even if she kept trying to up the price. Lo siento babe. I kept re-arranging her head to the right location over my pistola. She worked hard, had a sexy body. At the end she was spent and sweatier than me. Aw gad it was wonderful, even a little milk. I paid her and she was happy but I felt a little guilty. Me! Bottom Feeder guilty! I gave her a 10 k tip. She crossed herself and said a quick prayer! Well, I gota do her again! Then I caught a taxi and had the bugger take me to YAKUSA. I call him a bugger cause he farted around for 15 minutes. I even dialed the phone number and handed him the phone which he refused. Finally we arrived. It was 10 meters from my hotel, Plaza Botero. The meter said 10 k. I told him that he could have talked to them 5 k ago and told him to fuck off and gave him 5 k and staired him down. This I never do but. He left. I paid 40 k for 30 minutes but the gal actually spent about 45 with me as we laughed a lot. Hey, I was spent. She gave me her phone # and the address of her gymnasio where I'm going to meet her now.

Thanks Matt for the incredible maps and info!I'll certainly second that! A huge thanks to Matt for the map. When I was new to Medellin I used it all the time. It is an invaluable resource.

[Hioctane]

SurfLooker,

You need to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges.

Hotels. They are about a wash for a decent place to live. However, Medellin has lots of cheap accommodations as well (15-20/ night).

Mansion vs Del Rey. Depends. Del Rey obviously has more girls. Del Rey ST: $60-120 (GFE need to negotiate), Mansion ST: $75 (GFE almost guaranteed). Del Rey LT: $200-300 (I did not see any decent looking chick willing to go for less), Mansion LT: $100-150 (not all girls will do it).

Casas. CR: $50/ half hour, Medellin:15-20/50/100 (and up. There are low end, mid level and high end casas).

Stripclubs. CR: $100? (annoying that you have to keep buying lady drinks to talk to girls but at least you don't have to tip). Medellin: $40/75/100. (no need to buy lady drinks but have to constantly tip. 50 - $1.) Pricing in Medellin down into low end / mid level / high end. Same for pretty much everything. The fairest comparison to CR to Medellin is a mid level stripclub.

Medellin can be as cheap or expensive as you want it to be. There are guys that are content with staying near Mayorista and getting Mayorista / casa girls all day.

Also, Medelln has a great social network. It seems like all the girls are online and you can get a hookup for anywhere from free to $100.

Sometimes I do miss the freelance scene, but when I do, I just go to Cartagena instead where there is a beach as well.

CR is just too hardcore for me. You want to hang out with a girl? You have to pay her by the hour. Medellin chicas will hang out with you for free!

Just my 2 centavos.

Disclaimer: I've only been to CR twice but have been on 20+ trips to Colombia.

[Member #4301]

SurfLooker,

There are guys that are content with staying near Mayorista and getting Mayorista / casa girls all day.
Some of which, but by no means all, are attractive and a few very attractive. For around 15-20 USD for 30 minutes a bargain! Also if you pay for dinner (which only need cost about 4 USD) they will be happy to show you around the city if your nice to them. Obviously you will need to speak some Spanish.

[Bottom Feeder]

i signed up at the camino real gymnasia on the 4th floor of centro commercial near la oriental and la playa for 100.000 for 30 days (the minimum) then damn near killed myself on the elliptical and weight machines. then while lumbering back to the hotel i was handed one of those tiny slips that advertise a casa for 27.000 for 30 minutes. i am a real sucker for those and just got'a look them up. it was on 44th something (sorry but i will get the address and report it later). when they finally answered the bell i went up and there were 5 guys waiting. they were all happy and drinking rum and i sat with them and beat them up with my cro-magnon spanish. they kept feeding me rum. 1st mistake. (bad idea for me, very bad but it was free) as i was presented with about 8 different ok-looking girls over about 15 minutes. i was feeling pretty good when the mama san came in and asked me to choose. gee lady, i just wanted to drink all day. i chose a flaca blonde who was pretty good so when we were done, i let her type her phone # into my new $25 phone. then back to business with my best buddies. they loved to hear about africa, the philippines etc. and kept the rum flowing. so i left and lost the damn paper but i will find the place again! i had the taxi drop me off in mayorista.

i knew enough to stay put somewhere till i sobered up a bit so i sat in a restaurant and had chicken when the black gal from monday came up. i was a bit pissed because she was supposed to come to my hotel but didn't even call. big surprise. i told her to buzz off. 2nd mistake. i started feeling a bit more normal, for me, and walked around the skanky neighborhood. i promised that this time i wasn't going to get into trouble as i did 7 years ago. i talked up a few girls but none met the ridged bottom feeder criteria of price and looks. then in one bar i met some guys who were generous with the rum. 3rd mistake. yes, i am a fool. then i met senorita milk. aw shucks. my weakness. we talked and talked and i drank mucho coffee trying to overcome the alcohol. she was getting impatient. then i went into the bathroom to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and count my money. as i was counting, she reached in and grabbed about 80 k out of my hands. i grabbed her by the hair and banged her against the wall. she gouged my arm with her fingernails but i didn't feel it until later. i wrestled the money out of her hand and she ran out. i was bleeding like a pig from my arm. the other patrons looked at me in terror. me, mello bottom feeder. i casually walked out. i had several strands of her hair in my hand. i guess my milk maiden is off of the list for now. aw sh- moral to the story. never take any advice from bottom feeder!

[Member #4301]

Hey guys,

Can someone give me a a quick a few lines on Santo Domingo in comparison to Medellin? I have spent a total of a year in Medellin so know the city very well but have no idea at all about SD. I am in to the cheaper end of the market and I like to go out and have a good time with the locals.

[Kukulkan]

i signed up at the camino real gymnasia on the 4th floor of centro commercial near la oriental and la playa for 100.000 for 30 days (the minimum) then damn near killed myself on the elliptical and weight machines. then while lumbering back to the hotel i was handed one of those tiny slips that advertise a casa for 27.000 for 30 minutes. i am a real sucker for those and just got'a look them up. it was on 44th something (sorry but i will get the address and report it later). when they finally answered the bell i went up and there were 5 guys waiting. they were all happy and drinking rum and i sat with them and beat them up with my cro-magnon spanish. they kept feeding me rum. 1st mistake. (bad idea for me, very bad but it was free) as i was presented with about 8 different ok-looking girls over about 15 minutes. i was feeling pretty good when the mama san came in and asked me to choose. gee lady, i just wanted to drink all day. i chose a flaca blonde who was pretty good so when we were done, i let her type her phone # into my new $25 phone. then back to business with my best buddies. they loved to hear about africa, the philippines etc. and kept the rum flowing. so i left and lost the damn paper but i will find the place again! i had the taxi drop me off in mayorista.

i knew enough to stay put somewhere till i sobered up a bit so i sat in a restaurant and had chicken when the black gal from monday came up. i was a bit pissed because she was supposed to come to my hotel but didn't even call. big surprise. i told her to buzz off. 2nd mistake. i started feeling a bit more normal, for me, and walked around the skanky neighborhood. i promised that this time i wasn't going to get into trouble as i did 7 years ago. i talked up a few girls but none met the ridged bottom feeder criteria of price and looks. then in one bar i met some guys who were generous with the rum. 3rd mistake. yes, i am a fool. then i met senorita milk. aw shucks. my weakness. we talked and talked and i drank mucho coffee trying to overcome the alcohol. she was getting impatient. then i went into the bathroom to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and count my money. as i was counting, she reached in and grabbed about 80 k out of my hands. i grabbed her by the hair and banged her against the wall. she gouged my arm with her fingernails but i didn't feel it until later. i wrestled the money out of her hand and she ran out. i was bleeding like a pig from my arm. the other patrons looked at me in terror. me, mello bottom feeder. i casually walked out. i had several strands of her hair in my hand. i guess my milk maiden is off of the list for now. aw sh- moral to the story. never take any advice from bottom feeder!that's was a good one and funny story.

[Hioctane]

Some of which, but by no means all, are attractive and a few very attractive. For around 15-20 USD for 30 minutes a bargain! Also if you pay for dinner (which only need cost about 4 USD) they will be happy to show you around the city if your nice to them. Obviously you will need to speak some Spanish.I totally agree. I haven't been to Mayorista in years. However, some like that atmosphere. Drinking and looking at chicks and trying to find that diamond in the rough. Heck, it's where the infamous Geraldine was found!

[Orgasmico]

Hey guys,

Can someone give me a a quick a few lines on Santo Domingo in comparison to Medellin? I have spent a total of a year in Medellin so know the city very well but have no idea at all about SD. I am in to the cheaper end of the market and I like to go out and have a good time with the locals.Apples & Oranges. What specifically do you want to compare?

[Member #4301]

Apples & Oranges. What specifically do you want to compare?Ok I'm guessing way different then if we are talking apples and pears. From reading the SD forum I can see the SD Casas are a fair bit more pricey than the Medellin Casas. What I am really interested in is how liveable the city is and how friendly are the locals? Also is it like Medellin where you really don't need a car? I am looking at renting an apartment or maybe a room in Gazcue which in my understanding is kind of a Laureles with hotter weather and higher prices?

[Bottom Feeder]

I met up with Jeff in the am and skipped the Gym. Within 30 minutes I was in three new casas, chatting it up in the back room some super sexy girls. Dios mio! Thanks for the memories Jeff and the great info. I had to go to the hotel and work for a while on the Internet courses I teach then I went to new life and told the papa san I wanted Natalie for 30 minutes. We had an ok session, it seemed a little long then she said "YA" I guess that means Hey dude you're great but I'm bushed. She said to pay 70.000 for 1 hour! I simply stared at her. I said "Soy loco pero no soy stupido mi amor" I'm crazy but I'm not stupid my love. I asked for 30 minutes and I'm guna pay fur 30 minutes. She rambled off something and pointed at the clock. I said, "Aw, lo siento bebe. " I'm sorry baby. We went to the check out station and I paid for 30 minutes. She asked for a propina and I said, Una broma, no? A joke, no?

I walked a cardio walk for about 2 hours checking addresses on Matt's list for later use. I'm getting to know this berg. I wound up in Mayorista of course and drank only Smirnoff coolers, 8 k, while talking to the local fawna. No more rum. Ever! Or that shit the sell that tastes like gasoline that they call Guaro in CR and Lightning in Mississippi. I chatted up an older blond gal who wanted 50 k for an hour + 24 k for the room. Or. Get this - 20 k for 40 minutes and 12 k for the room. Even without my slide rule I could see the upside of this deal. Up we went. Marina gave a wonder BBBJ and massage for an honest 40 minutes and almost cried at the 10 k propina.

Oh yeah. I have 3 bar tenders looking for girls with milk. I promised them 20 k ifn the girl produces big time. We'll see. Me. Big time prevert!

[Shamester]

Hey guys,

Can someone give me a a quick a few lines on Santo Domingo in comparison to Medellin? I have spent a total of a year in Medellin so know the city very well but have no idea at all about SD. I am in to the cheaper end of the market and I like to go out and have a good time with the locals.Do you mean SD in the DR?

If that is the SD you are referring to the cheaper end of the market does not compare to Medellin (never visited MDE). There is no mayorista in SD.

Your best bet is to approach chicas while walking around neighborhoods. The rates are good. Also taxi drivers that are bilingual can secure regular working chicas at very good prices.

[Combo]

Ok I'm guessing way different then if we are talking apples and pears. From reading the SD forum I can see the SD Casas are a fair bit more pricey than the Medellin Casas. What I am really interested in is how liveable the city is and how friendly are the locals? Also is it like Medellin where you really don't need a car? I am looking at renting an apartment or maybe a room in Gazcue which in my understanding is kind of a Laureles with hotter weather and higher prices?I would say, Medellin is more livable. Unless you like it really hot, MDE has better weather. SDQ is really hot pretty much all year. MDE rarely varies from a high of about 78-82 F. MDE is a wealthier city with better stores (at least in Poblado). And the Spanish is easier to understand.

OTOH, SDQ has the ocean right there (though no beaches in the City).

Both cities have pay-for-play options all across the price range.

I prefer going out to "non-pro" venues much more in SDQ. There are some great Salsa / Bachata clubs on Avenida Venezuela.

Obviously, you will find more Mulata / Negrita types in SDQ, but they can be found in MDE also.

In MDE you have the Mansion and a few other places where you can hang with other like-minded guys. In SDQ, you may not see another monger (other than fellow casa patrons) doing your whole visit. Though if you take a 4 hour bus ride to Sosua, you will be surrounded by fellow mongers.

They are totally different cities. You should try both.

[Orgasmico]

What I am really interested in is how liveable the city is and how friendly are the locals? Also is it like Medellin where you really don't need a car? I am looking at renting an apartment or maybe a room in Gazcue which in my understanding is kind of a Laureles with hotter weather and higher prices?My first advice would be to join DR1, if you are not already a member. There are folks on that site that live in Gazcue. I consider the people in both friendly, BUT there are more tigueres in SDQ and people with an agenda or their hand out.

Food: MDE. I like the variety more in MDE, but I do like the fruit in the DR.

Transportation: MDE. I would want my own car in SDQ because the cabs aren't metered and can have a gringo tax.

Housing: MDE. You get more bang for your buck in MDE.

Weather: MDE. SDQ can be very hot, especially in the summer (bring your sun tan lotion if you have fair skin).

Quality of life: MDE. More upscale and modern overall, especially in touristy areas.

Economy: MDE. Seems like more people are doing well and working.

Education: MDE. People seem better educated.

Beaches: SDQ. Boca chica, Juan Dolio, etc.

Street Hustlers: SDQ. Can't escape them, even in Gazcue. For me this is one of the worst things about that area.

Lively Vibe: SDQ. Paisas are much more laid back compared to Dominicans. Dominicans dance!

[Vitrea]

.... I guess my milk maiden is off of the list for now. Aw sh- Moral to the story. Never take any advice from Bottom Feeder!Very funny. Thanks for sharing.

[Member #4301]

My first advice would be to join DR1, if you are not already a member. There are folks on that site that live in Gazcue. I consider the people in both friendly, BUT there are more tigueres in SDQ and people with an agenda or their hand out.

Food: MDE. I like the variety more in MDE, but I do like the fruit in the DR.

Transportation: MDE. I would want my own car in SDQ because the cabs aren't metered and can have a gringo tax.

Housing: MDE. You get more bang for your buck in MDE.

Weather: MDE. SDQ can be very hot, especially in the summer (bring your sun tan lotion if you have fair skin).

Quality of life: MDE. More upscale and modern overall, especially in touristy areas.

Economy: MDE. Seems like more people are doing well and working.

Education: MDE. People seem better educated.

Beaches: SDQ. Boca chica, Juan Dolio, etc.

Street Hustlers: SDQ. Can't escape them, even in Gazcue. For me this is one of the worst things about that area.

Lively Vibe: SDQ. Paisas are much more laid back compared to Dominicans. Dominicans dance!Shamester, Combo, Orgasmico. A huge thanks to all of you. I really appreciate it. Santo Domingo sounds well worth a month (I work mainly on-line so can be away for extended periods no problem) of my time to see how I get on. I am a decent dancer and love going out and having a good time so the city sounds ideal for me. If the girls are open to being approached on the streets that's perfect for me.

I'll do my best to give back to the forum and answer any MDE questions that arise if I feel I can contribute.

[Member #4301]

When negotiating prices I always think it's well worth knowing what the locals get paid for working a 'normal' job. 2 k is very roughly 1 USD. Kind of puts things in perspective.

Exito supermarket: 28 K per day.

Artists assistant: 40 K per day (the guy was super happy with this).

Teacher in a bottom of the ladder school: 60 K-80 K depending how many hours.

The higher end girls getting 150 k per hour are therefore onto a very good thing!

[Vegas Jeff]

I met up with Jeff in the am and skipped the Gym. Within 30 minutes I was in three new casas, chatting it up in the back room some super sexy girls. Dios mio!

Oh yeah. I have 3 bar tenders looking for girls with milk. I promised them 20 k ifn the girl produces big time. We'll see. Me. Big time prevert!Hey BF, it was good hanging with you also.

I want to mention that there are more police in El Centro than I have ever seen recently. I have had some close encounters where I flicked away joints at the last second causing me to rethink things. The place where we went I spoke with the jefe explaining that I was tired of looking over my shoulder and wanted a place to relax and smoke. I told the jefe that I would give 5 mil ($2. 50) to hang out in a private room or the backroom and smoke a joint. I have hung out in the backroom with the girls ever since. Pretty cool experience with a behind the scenes look at things. It is worth the 5 mil just hanging in the backroom with the girls and smoking with them. Most of them join in and everyone is happy. Every time I leave the boss tells me it was a pleasure and to come back any time. Just keep your shit on the down low and don't make a scene. Be a gentlemen and come up with good ideas where everyone benefits and things will get done.

As far as your hunt for milk goes, Solome at Zandalay has milk and is great in bed to boot. She is 18 years old, has a pretty face, GFE, and loves to kiss also.

Good luck with the rest of your trip.

[Artisttyp]

Hey BF, it was good hanging with you also.

I want to mention that there are more police in El Centro than I have ever seen recently. I have had some close encounters where I flicked away joints at the last second causing me to rethink things. Where were your close encounters?

[Orgasmico]

Shamester, Combo, Orgasmico. A huge thanks to all of you. I really appreciate it. Santo Domingo sounds well worth a month (I work mainly on-line so can be away for extended periods no problem) of my time to see how I get on. I am a decent dancer and love going out and having a good time so the city sounds ideal for me. If the girls are open to being approached on the streets that's perfect for me.

I'll do my best to give back to the forum and answer any MDE questions that arise if I feel I can contribute.The electricity and internet in SDQ are less stable than MDE, on average. Outages are much more common in the DR.

http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21603432-transformation-colombias-second-city-will-be-hard-copy-trouble-miracles?frsc=dg%7ca

[El Bacano]

Men, Get out there and hit el central in groups, ask questions, get answers. Just do it baby.

[TroyBoy]

I just returned from 9 nights in Medellin; some at the mansion and some in an apartment.

OVERVIEW of MANSION- The mansion has always served it's purpose as being a means to meet up with some stunningly beautiful semipro prepagos. My previous trip I noted a marked reduction in numbers and quality of mansion newbies. I wrote it off as maybe just bad timing on my part. This trip I felt it was even worse. In the past a Sunday afternoon at the pool would have 8-10 really fresh barrio cuties looking for pesos to pay for tuition due Monday. This trip some days nothing showed up in the afternoon and when they did it was the usual B squad who has been working the scene for 4 years. In the evening it wasn't much better. I only pulled one cutie from the mansion selection my entire 6 night stay there. It is obvious the mansion is trying to distance themselves from the PREPAGO scene. I do understand why they are doing this, but I certainly hope they look at the big picture and realize that "that scene" is the reason men travel there and choose to stay there.

SOooooooo- Maybe it is time for me to move on to different options. If the mansion is not delivering a supply of chicas, then what is left is an overpriced frat house which I can do without. I still had a great time and did meet some nice guys there, but the chica action I got was from my previous contact list and centro casas.

MONEY-- Poblado Oviedo cambio giving 1,950 cop / USD. The airport cambio I previously recommended was giving 1,930 which still is in the ball park. I like this airport cambio because at the airport you have your required passport handy and I am going directly to my hotel anyways where I can put the cash safely away in my safe. In the past this cambio was giving the exact same rate as Oviedo / Centro cambios. It is the one located on the departure level down by security entrance. So when you come out of customs you need to go upstairs one flight. I usually change big bills for pesos at cambios rather than paying the hidden exchange fees associated with ATM machines. I did take out a few hundred at the Rio casino ATM mainly to see what the final rate was. It ended up being about 1,860 cop / USD, so this is not a good way for me to get my pesos. HEADS UP-- Medellin ATMs are almost all moving to requiring chips in the debit / credit cards. My bank in USA has yet to provide a chip card. The only ATM I found I could use was the one at the Rio Casino.

The poker table at Rio Casino (San Diego) was again good to me-- up 900,000 cop for the trip.

WIFI- Both the mansion and my apartment had very good wifi, which to me is important for staying in touch with my office. This trip I was able to get my smart phone to receive data. I had to update my sim and in system settings add a new APN (Access Point Names) with Clairo settings. The Clairo girl at KTRONIX (near corner of Loma Alijandria / Poblado ave-- just down the hill from mansion) sold me 2 sims /5,000 cop one with 1 month free data-- special promo. In the future I can opt for data on a daily basis for 4,000/ day by texting to "464" and putting in the content box "1" (do not include parenthesis). I believe you can also get a months data for about 28,000 peso with a different code. I usually have access to wifi, but it is nice having data in my cell for GPS, google maps and translate when I am out and about.

The photo of this KTROIX was taken frm the balcony of my apartment 2 blks away with the zoom of my Panosonic / Lumix ZS25 -- $160 at Costco.com That zoom is awesome.

CENTRO CASAS- Talent is always hit and miss, but every day I found some nice options. Here is a nice find at Chica Punto.com; 20 yr all natural, no baby-- cute. (about 50 k for one hour).

[Combo]

Troy -- the Mansion goes in good and bad phases. But the chicas there are most certainly not "semipros. " They are about as pro as you can get, although some may be newer than others to the profession. I've had visits where the talent is off the chain and I've had visits where there's very little to pick from. I always manage to have a good time either way.


I just returned from 9 nights in Medellin; some at the mansion and some in an apartment.

OVERVIEW of MANSION- The mansion has always served it's purpose as being a means to meet up with some stunningly beautiful semipro prepagos. My previous trip I noted a marked reduction in numbers and quality of mansion newbies. I wrote it off as maybe just bad timing on my part. This trip I felt it was even worse. In the past a Sunday afternoon at the pool would have 8-10 really fresh barrio cuties looking for pesos to pay for tuition due Monday. This trip some days nothing showed up in the afternoon and when they did it was the usual B squad who has been working the scene for 4 years. In the evening it wasn't much better. I only pulled one cutie from the mansion selection my entire 6 night stay there. It is obvious the mansion is trying to distance themselves from the PREPAGO scene. I do understand why they are doing this, but I certainly hope they look at the big picture and realize that "that scene" is the reason men travel there and choose to stay there.

SOooooooo- Maybe it is time for me to move on to different options. If the mansion is not delivering a supply of chicas, then what is left is an overpriced frat house which I can do without. I still had a great time and did meet some nice guys there, but the chica action I got was from my previous contact list and centro casas.

MONEY-- Poblado Oviedo cambio giving 1,950 cop / USD. The airport cambio I previously recommended was giving 1,930 which still is in the ball park. I like this airport cambio because at the airport you have your required passport handy and I am going directly to my hotel anyways where I can put the cash safely away in my safe. In the past this cambio was giving the exact same rate as Oviedo / Centro cambios. It is the one located on the departure level down by security entrance. So when you come out of customs you need to go upstairs one flight. I usually change big bills for pesos at cambios rather than paying the hidden exchange fees associated with ATM machines. I did take out a few hundred at the Rio casino ATM mainly to see what the final rate was. It ended up being about 1,860 cop / USD, so this is not a good way for me to get my pesos. HEADS UP-- Medellin ATMs are almost all moving to requiring chips in the debit / credit cards. My bank in USA has yet to provide a chip card. The only ATM I found I could use was the one at the Rio Casino.

The poker table at Rio Casino (San Diego) was again good to me-- up 900,000 cop for the trip.

WIFI- Both the mansion and my apartment had very good wifi, which to me is important for staying in touch with my office. This trip I was able to get my smart phone to receive data. I had to update my sim and in system settings add a new APN (Access Point Names) with Clairo settings. The Clairo girl at KTRONIX (near corner of Loma Alijandria / Poblado ave-- just down the hill from mansion) sold me 2 sims /5,000 cop one with 1 month free data-- special promo. In the future I can opt for data on a daily basis for 4,000/ day by texting to "464" and putting in the content box "1" (do not include parenthesis). I believe you can also get a months data for about 28,000 peso with a different code. I usually have access to wifi, but it is nice having data in my cell for GPS, google maps and translate when I am out and about.

The photo of this KTROIX was taken frm the balcony of my apartment 2 blks away with the zoom of my Panosonic / Lumix ZS25 -- $160 at Costco.com That zoom is awesome.

CENTRO CASAS- Talent is always hit and miss, but every day I found some nice options. Here is a nice find at Chica Punto.com; 20 yr all natural, no baby-- cute. (about 50 k for one hour).

[Voyajer1]

Did you have problems using the Citi Bank ATMs in El Poblado? They are quite a few and they never required a chip. Did those require ATM cards with chips also?


MONEY-- Poblado Oviedo cambio giving 1,950 cop / USD. The airport cambio I previously recommended was giving 1,930 which still is in the ball park. I like this airport cambio because at the airport you have your required passport handy and I am going directly to my hotel anyways where I can put the cash safely away in my safe. In the past this cambio was giving the exact same rate as Oviedo / Centro cambios. It is the one located on the departure level down by security entrance. So when you come out of customs you need to go upstairs one flight. I usually change big bills for pesos at cambios rather than paying the hidden exchange fees associated with ATM machines. I did take out a few hundred at the Rio casino ATM mainly to see what the final rate was. It ended up being about 1,860 cop / USD, so this is not a good way for me to get my pesos. HEADS UP-- Medellin ATMs are almost all moving to requiring chips in the debit / credit cards. My bank in USA has yet to provide a chip card. The only ATM I found I could use was the one at the Rio Casino.

[TroyBoy]

Troy -- the Mansion goes in good and bad phases. But the chicas there are most certainly not "semipros. " They are about as pro as you can get, although some may be newer than others to the profession. I've had visits where the talent is off the chain and I've had visits where there's very little to pick from. I always manage to have a good time either way.YEP-- it is very possible the poor numbers / quality were just a statistical blip. I also know that timing is everything. I may show up at the pool at 3:30 pm and see only one gordo hanging. BUT- had I arrived at 3:00 am two other real cuties / newbies maybe were there who are now up in one of the rooms making memories for one of my brothers in arms. I can also imagine how difficult it is for management to plan for getting adequate #s to actually show up with their invitation policy. All I was saying is that in my last two stays (March & May) I noticed a real drop in both numbers & quality.

Any woman who accepts money for sex is a professional and YES every chica coming to the Mansion fits this definition. In past stays of a week or so I would often run into 4--6 new faces who were tipping their toes in the waters of this profession. Usually they were tagging along with friends for their first visits. They were often college students who needed tuition $ or the like. My March stay I had the pleasure of spending time with one such newbie. This May I met nobody new. Most of the faces I have seen working the mansion 3 years on a very regular basis. Some of these regulars are still very pretty and are certainly worth spending your money on, but I personally prefer a fresh face.

[TroyBoy]

Did you have problems using the Citi Bank ATMs in El Poblado? They are quite a few and they never required a chip. Did those require ATM cards with chips also?I cannot remember what 4 or so banks I tried. Maybe Citi Bank was not one of them. All I am saying is that if you come to Medellin with only a hard-on and your ATM card (with no chip) - you may find yourself frustrated. Have a plan be for getting cash. The ATM at Rio Casino was the only one I found that my card worked. I tried a number of ATMs in Premium Plaza and Centro also.

[TroyBoy]

I do not know if anyone here is interested in Poker but I enjoy it and this trip I did manage to end up +900,000 cop. There is really only one game in town at Rio Casino in San Diego. Tuesday thru Saturday they have one table of no-limit (small blind 2 k, big blind 5 k) starting at around 3 pm. The table is often full early so you need to get there early or prepare to get on a waiting list. They also run a bigger Omaha game in the VIP section sometimes, but I am not an Omaha player.

On Sunday and Mondays they have a 100,000 cop buy-in tournament upstairs which lasts until about 11 pm. They do not run a cash game on Sunday & Monday. If anyone knows of another game I would sure appreciate info, but this is all I have been able to find in cash games. I think some of the other casinos run small tournaments sometimes.

I have played that table many times and see a few regulars who I consider tight, aggressive and who probably do this for a living. When they are involved in the hand-- be careful. There usually are also a few crazy maniacs who "all in" with nothing or very little just trying to buy pots. Those are the guys to take the money from.

[TroyBoy]

Someone here recommended this hotel a while back. I decided to take a look and agree that this is a very nice cheap Centro option. This hotel located one block East of Iglesias Veracrus / Parque Botero. This is just one block West of the Berro Metro station. The rooms are only 42,000 cop ($24 USD), but they were clean and the place looks very livable; much better than what I would expect for $24 USD. I have no idea if it is guest friendly, but I suspect that if you bring in a somewhat "normal" (not one of the obvious street rats) -- there would be no problem as long as you rented it for 2 people.

If anyone who has actually stayed here could pipe in on their "chica friendliness" I would appreciate it.

[Hioctane]

I cannot remember what 4 or so banks I tried. Maybe Citi Bank was not one of them. All I am saying is that if you come to Medellin with only a hard-on and your ATM card (with no chip) - you may find yourself frustrated. Have a plan be for getting cash. The ATM at Rio Casino was the only one I found that my card worked. I tried a number of ATMs in Premium Plaza and Centro also.I use my Schwab card (no chip) and it works at every ATM I have tried except for BanColombia. However, I stick to Citibank, HSBC, ServiBanca because they have the highest withdrawal limits. 700 k+.

[Member #4301]

Someone here recommended this hotel a while back. I decided to take a look and agree that this is a very nice cheap Centro option. This hotel located one block East of Iglesias Veracrus / Parque Botero. This is just one block West of the Berro Metro station. The rooms are only 42,000 cop ($24 USD), but they were clean and the place looks very livable; much better than what I would expect for $24 USD. I have no idea if it is guest friendly, but I suspect that if you bring in a somewhat "normal" (not one of the obvious street rats) -- there would be no problem as long as you rented it for 2 people.

If anyone who has actually stayed here could pipe in on their "chica friendliness" I would appreciate it.Believe it or not 42 k is expensive for Centro so it's obviously a fairly up market hotel by Centro standards. There are a ton of hotels, most of which are decent and clean, starting at 18 k or 9 USD. There are about a dozen small but perfectly ok hotels right behind the Nutibara. None of them will have a problem with a guest as long as she is not a total street rat (of which there are plenty in El cento). Be careful in Centro. Both my room mates have been robbed in this area. Personally I love the area and wouldn't stay anywhere else.

[MdeJohn]

I do not know if anyone here is interested in Poker but I enjoy it and this trip I did manage to end up +900,000 cop. There is really only one game in town at Rio Casino in San Diego. Tuesday thru Saturday they have one table of no-limit (small blind 2 k, big blind 5 k) starting at around 3 pm. The table is often full early so you need to get there early or prepare to get on a waiting list. They also run a bigger Omaha game in the VIP section sometimes, but I am not an Omaha player.

On Sunday and Mondays they have a 100,000 cop buy-in tournament upstairs which lasts until about 11 pm. They do not run a cash game on Sunday & Monday. If anyone knows of another game I would sure appreciate info, but this is all I have been able to find in cash games. I think some of the other casinos run small tournaments sometimes.

I have played that table many times and see a few regulars who I consider tight, aggressive and who probably do this for a living. When they are involved in the hand-- be careful. There usually are also a few crazy maniacs who "all in" with nothing or very little just trying to buy pots. Those are the guys to take the money from.I've been thinking about trying to put together a weekly / biweekly game among expats. Cheap buy-in tournament style just for fun. Thanks for the tip on San Diego. Will probably try it out once but a little leery about showing lots of money around in public, especially at the casinos. Not wild about playing at a table with a 'unregulated' local group that knows each other either, just sets yourself up to be played against.

[Member #4447]

Centro iis real dangerous. Been robed there also.

[FoxesHunter]

Hi,

I'm undecided between booking an apartment with doorkeeper or without doorkeeper. I will stay at Estadio / Laureles and if I have to be sincere I don't like the doorkeeper but at same time I'm afraid for my safety. Could a streetwalker threaten me with a knife inside my apartment? Or is this a difficult thing? What are your suggestions?

[Ricker]

Hi,

I'm undecided between booking an apartment with doorkeeper or without doorkeeper. I will stay at Estadio / Laureles and if I have to be sincere I don't like the doorkeeper but at same time I'm afraid for my safety. Could a streetwalker threaten me with a knife inside my apartment? Or is this a difficult thing? What are your suggestions?Come on Fox, anything's possible, especially with a street girl, you have to know that.

[Vegas Jeff]

Where were your close encounters?Basically from the Zandalay and Paris Club area all the way to Parque Berrio Station Metro and beyond. That entire zone is overrun with cops. I don't see any difference in the New Life or Barcelona areas. The increase in police presence is a good thing for the public at large. I spoke to a few more casa jefes and have been offered more options for smoking which is cool. I am surprised by the number of Colombians that stop and just want a hit or two all over Centro. I have definitely had some cool encounters.

Speaking of Zandalay, about a month ago I would have rated Zandalay as the top El Centro MP. They renovated the waiting room and put in a large bar. The girls were presented and the room was large and open. Jefe was super cool and things were lax. The girls had good attitudes also. The past few times I have been there the inmates had taken over the place. The girls had migrated into the waiting room and there were a bunch of customers. There were 20 people in the waiting room and the room was hot due to all of the people. I have said many times that guys are searching for a place to build rapport with working girls in Medellin and the waiting room kind of serves this function at this place. I predict that this place will get busier and busier.

Hung out for awhile at New Life recently and there are definitely a number of sexy girls there. This MP stands atop the Medellin scene as most popular by far. Good luck getting a GFE from one of the top girls in this place. The top girls here are getting run through like crazy. There are plenty of guys in the waiting room with reservations waiting for the top girls to pop out the room so they can be next. This is definitely the best place to find a hot girl at the cheapest price. $20 for half hour. It is probably a good idea to show up early in the morning to move up the line a little though.

[Member #4301]

Hi,

I'm undecided between booking an apartment with doorkeeper or without doorkeeper. I will stay at Estadio / Laureles and if I have to be sincere I don't like the doorkeeper but at same time I'm afraid for my safety. Could a streetwalker threaten me with a knife inside my apartment? Or is this a difficult thing? What are your suggestions?There are no street walkers in Laureles, they are in Centro (really nasty street girls) and Mayorista (some really nice girls) What are you going to do. Bring them back in a taxi? Much easier and safer to take them to a by the hour hotel nearby for a few dollars.

P.S. You may find some pros around the bars on the 33 which runs through Laureles but generally it is an area for middle / upper class locals to hang out with their friends.

[Kamao]

new to the site here. wanted to ask those knowledgeable in colombia about a situation i came across.

basically i met a girl on the plane from bogota to medellin. she's pretty, nice, and a normal girl (non-pro).

i find out later on that she is only 17. don't get me wrong, that is not what i look for. it just so happened that i befriended a girl.

what is the law concerning girls below 18? i know the age of consent is 14, but there maybe other laws for foreigners.

looking for advice on where to set my boundaries here.

much thanks

age of consent vs age of majority

=============================================

greetings gentlemen,

the age of consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

however, the age of consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.

what you need to focus on is the age of majority, which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.

please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.

thanks,

jackson

[Member #4353]

If you are inviting streetwalkers to your apartment, think safety first and stay with a doorkeeper. Not even a difficult decision. If you don't like the doorman at your current location just find another apartment. Plenty of them available.


Hi,

I'm undecided between booking an apartment with doorkeeper or without doorkeeper. I will stay at Estadio / Laureles and if I have to be sincere I don't like the doorkeeper but at same time I'm afraid for my safety. Could a streetwalker threaten me with a knife inside my apartment? Or is this a difficult thing? What are your suggestions?

[FoxesHunter]

If you are inviting streetwalkers to your apartment, think safety first and stay with a doorkeeper. Not even a difficult decision. If you don't like the doorman at your current location just find another apartment. Plenty of them available.Average Joe2,

I don't like to take girls to some hotels for some hours. Surely I will not fuck streetwalkers only. I have a lot of Facebook numbers but I cannot know if they are, or semi-pro, or dangerous stretwalkers. In short time I will talk with them again to understand better. Did anybody get some bad experiences with girls from dating sites?

[Member #4287]

if you are a us citizen it is illegal for you to engage in sexual activities with a minor no matter where you are in the world. it is unlikely that you will be found out. but if you are. you can be prosecuted in the usa.

the age of consent in colombia is 14 but it is illegal to pay (or otherwise coerce) a girl under the age of 18 to have sex in colombia. laws are randomly enforced in colombia but for it to be legal in colombia. the girl must be willing to have sex without payment of any kind.


new to the site here. wanted to ask those knowledgeable in colombia about a situation i came across.

basically i met a girl on the plane from bogota to medellin. she's pretty, nice, and a normal girl (non-pro).

i find out later on that she is only 17. don't get me wrong, that is not what i look for. it just so happened that i befriended a girl.

what is the law concerning girls below 18? i know the age of consent is 14, but there maybe other laws for foreigners.

looking for advice on where to set my boundaries here.

much thanks

age of consent vs age of majority

=============================================

greetings gentlemen,

the age of consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

however, the age of consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.

what you need to focus on is the age of majority, which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.

please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.

thanks,

jackson

[Don Sterling]

Did anybody get some bad experiences with girls from dating sites?Yes, some guys have had some problems with some girls from dating sites.

Yes, some guys have had some problems with some streetwalkers.

But you already know that so what is the point of your recent series of questions?

[Colombia Jake]

Http://www.colombiajake.com/Heading out to Centro for some hunting but still have some fun girls with good attitudes to hang out with when you come to town and stay here with me. If you just want to get to the know the hot spots and your staying somewhere else, I'm happy to take you around to see them all. New cool bar with style and some single girls that are not working is called Cafe Zeppelin over in Laureles. Check it out or give me a shout and I'll be happy to show you.

Colombia Jake

[Kamao]

Thank you for the reply. I did some research online as well to get a better understanding of the situation.

As you mention below, for a US citizen, it is illegal to have "commerical" sexual activities with a girl under 18, and non-commercial sex with a girl under 16 accdg to the US Protect Act. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003.

I agree on your second point. Key is that there should be no payment of any kind if the girl is under 18. So if the girl asks for some sort of financial support of some kind after the deed for instance, that could be argued as payment, and thus illegal. It seems like playing with fire. So perhaps best to walk away from this one, no matter how tempting. I don't know if there are cases where say a 17 year old girl has colluded with police to cause some trouble for a foreigner, whether to extort money or what have you.


If you are a US citizen it is illegal for you to engage in sexual activities with a minor no matter where you are in the world. It is unlikely that you will be found out. But if you are. You can be prosecuted in the USA.

The age of consent in Colombia is 14 but it is illegal to pay (or otherwise coerce) a girl under the age of 18 to have sex in Colombia. Laws are randomly enforced in Colombia but for it to be legal in Colombia. The girl must be willing to have sex without payment of any kind.

[Socker]

Thank you for the reply. I did some research online as well to get a better understanding of the situation.

As you mention below, for a US citizen, it is illegal to have "commerical" sexual activities with a girl under 18, and non-commercial sex with a girl under 16 accdg to the US Protect Act. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003.

I agree on your second point. Key is that there should be no payment of any kind if the girl is under 18. So if the girl asks for some sort of financial support of some kind after the deed for instance, that could be argued as payment, and thus illegal. It seems like playing with fire. So perhaps best to walk away from this one, no matter how tempting. I don't know if there are cases where say a 17 year old girl has colluded with police to cause some trouble for a foreigner, whether to extort money or what have you.If she's that good why not wait until she turns 18. Then every one is happy.

[Combo]

Thank you for the reply. I did some research online as well to get a better understanding of the situation.

As you mention below, for a US citizen, it is illegal to have "commerical" sexual activities with a girl under 18, and non-commercial sex with a girl under 16 accdg to the US Protect Act. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003.

I agree on your second point. Key is that there should be no payment of any kind if the girl is under 18. So if the girl asks for some sort of financial support of some kind after the deed for instance, that could be argued as payment, and thus illegal. It seems like playing with fire. So perhaps best to walk away from this one, no matter how tempting. I don't know if there are cases where say a 17 year old girl has colluded with police to cause some trouble for a foreigner, whether to extort money or what have you.Yes you are playing with fire.

[Manny51]

Yes you are playing with fire.I never understood some guy's fascination with flirting with the line. I understand that most guys don't like MILFs. But I figure that as long as they are in their early to mid 20's, its all good, isn't it? If you suspect that you are dipping into the teens, best to see an I'd. Not only is it illegal, but its also just an all around bad thing to be messing with.

[Bottom Feeder]

My money was well spent on the bartenders and I found two delicious milk maidens. So for three days I actually ate very little except what nature and a little dinero provided. Thanks to Vegas Jeff I found both a new avenue of information as well as natural herbs to relax and dream and learned to tip the folks who present the girls. What a great idea! Unfortunately I had to leave a week early due to a problem with a daughter in the states who is ok now. I'm thinking of switching my Aug 1st to 10th trip to Susa, Dominican Republic back to MDE.

Remember the working girl that attacked me in my last post? Well after the incident was over, I found that I had a lot of her beautiful long hair in my hand so I'm going to have it made into a lanyard for my car keys.

[Kamao]

Points well taken gentlemen. Appreciate the thoughts and opinions of the experienced senior members in this forum.

I shall let this one go and definitively set my boundaries.

Cheers

[Vegas Jeff]

Bottom Feeder,

You inspired me with your tip reference.

This is my opinion with regards to tipping the casa jefes and my approach.

Upon entering any daytime P4 P establishment you will be asked if you would like a drink and then the girls will be presented. Afterward, you will have the decision to take a girl or not. If you decide not to take a girl, should you leave a tip or not??

I think you should, at least, some of the time. If you are going through a place regularly, and not taking girls, it is nice gesture to buy a drink or leave a small tip. As little as 2 mil ($1) sends a message that you are not cheap and not a sucker also.

As with all things Medellin, it is important to be respectful to the people that you see regularly.

[ForceSteeler]

Hey guys,

I'm heading to Colombia in August and all I hear about is how beautiful Colombian women are? I been a lot of places, And the best looking girls are Brazilian Women, Are Colombian Women better looking than Brazilian Women, Also How good are they in bed?

Can I expect a GFE Experience or is it just business?

Thanks guys.

[Manny51]

Hey guys,

I'm heading to Colombia in August and all I hear about is how beautiful Colombian women are? I been a lot of places, And the best looking girls are Brazilian Women, Are Colombian Women better looking than Brazilian Women, Also How good are they in bed?

Can I expect a GFE Experience or is it just business?

Thanks guys.Ahh, you have opened a can of worm my friend! Here is my dos pesos.

If you go to a nightclub or the beach, brazillian women are more varied and better looking. But like the USA, there is a broad range of women, and many are butt ugly. Colombian women are more uniform in appearance, and also very hot. Just not as hot as the brazillian best of the best. That being said, IMHO Colombian putas are better looking than Brazillian putas.

Brazillian women are more "porn star" in the sack, which alot of guys like, and most will do anal without hesitation. Colombian women are slightly more GFE, although some may think differently.

However, these statements are all fine lines and generalities. Like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get. I think that your satisfaction will be about the same in both countries, just with a little different "flavor" in each.

That being said, Brazil is a MUCH better general tourist destination. If you have never been to either, go to Brazil first. If you are thinking soon, though, I would wait until the World Cup is over. If you have to go within the next month or two, then go to Colombia.

[Ricker]

Ahh, you have opened a can of worm my friend! Here is my dos pesos.

If you go to a nightclub or the beach, brazillian women are more varied and better looking. But like the USA, there is a broad range of women, and many are butt ugly. Colombian women are more uniform in appearance, and also very hot. Just not as hot as the brazillian best of the best. That being said, IMHO Colombian putas are better looking than Brazillian putas.

Brazillian women are more "porn star" in the sack, which alot of guys like, and most will do anal without hesitation. Colombian women are slightly more GFE, although some may think differently.

However, these statements are all fine lines and generalities. Like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get. I think that your satisfaction will be about the same in both countries, just with a little different "flavor" in each.

That being said, Brazil is a MUCH better general tourist destination. If you have never been to either, go to Brazil first. If you are thinking soon, though, I would wait until the World Cup is over. If you have to go within the next month or two, then go to Colombia.I generally agree with Manny's assesment.

IMO the Colombian PFP is better looking, however, the Brazillian is better at moving (in bed LOL).
As far as GFE goes; they're equal in my experience.
Really depends on you, and your appearance, demeanor, language skills, charisma, chemestry with the girl, etc.

I've been to both countries a gazillion times and to be honest, I live them both!!

Enjoy!

[Ricker]

Bottom Feeder,

You inspired me with your tip reference.

This is my opinion with regards to tipping the casa jefes and my approach.

Upon entering any daytime P4 P establishment you will be asked if you would like a drink and then the girls will be presented. Afterward, you will have the decision to take a girl or not. If you decide not to take a girl, should you leave a tip or not??

I think you should, at least, some of the time. If you are going through a place regularly, and not taking girls, it is nice gesture to buy a drink or leave a small tip. As little as 2 mil ($1) sends a message that you are not cheap and not a sucker also.

As with all things Medellin, it is important to be respectful to the people that you see regularly.I agree.

I've made it a point to become 'friendly' with the casa boss or madam, or whoever is running the place.

Common sense really.

Friendliness equals extra time, call ahead selection, generally better vibe, etc.

Cheap Charlies please ignore above. LOL.

Keep on truckin'.

Enjoy!

[Don Sterling]

Bottom Feeder,

You inspired me with your tip reference.

This is my opinion with regards to tipping the casa jefes and my approach.

Upon entering any daytime P4 P establishment you will be asked if you would like a drink and then the girls will be presented. Afterward, you will have the decision to take a girl or not. If you decide not to take a girl, should you leave a tip or not??

I think you should, at least, some of the time. If you are going through a place regularly, and not taking girls, it is nice gesture to buy a drink or leave a small tip. As little as 2 mil ($1) sends a message that you are not cheap and not a sucker also.

As with all things Medellin, it is important to be respectful to the people that you see regularly.There is an important difference between respectfulness and generosity.

You are right about respectfulness. Colombians are tired of arrogant Gringos with anger management problems.

However, I disagree about tipping. Generosity is interpreted differently in Colombia. Do not tip in any situation where Colombian men do not tip, and do not tip greater amounts than Colombian men tip.

Generosity makes you a sucker in the eyes of Colombians. Colombians do not respect suckers. Colombians do not appreciate generous people. Rather, Colombians take advantage of generous people.

You would be amazed at how minimal generosity on your part will generate the conclusion that you are a sucker on the part of Colombians. If you show some form of generosity to a Colombian once, then be prepared because that person will expect the same generosity every time you interact with them. Later, the expectations for generosity will increase steadily.

Although there are exceptions, the people that manage casas generally do not own the casas. Do not tip the managers when there are no attractive girls. This creates an incentive to not present attractive girls. Colombian men do not tip the managers of casas, and they certainly would not tip the managers for presenting unattractive girls.

There are two key sayings in Colombia that explain the entire culture. Both sayings involve the word "papaya" and every Gringo should have a Colombian explain the sayings to them.

[Don Sterling]

Bottom Feeder,

You inspired me with your tip reference.

This is my opinion with regards to tipping the casa jefes and my approach.

Upon entering any daytime P4 P establishment you will be asked if you would like a drink and then the girls will be presented. Afterward, you will have the decision to take a girl or not. If you decide not to take a girl, should you leave a tip or not??

I think you should, at least, some of the time. If you are going through a place regularly, and not taking girls, it is nice gesture to buy a drink or leave a small tip. As little as 2 mil ($1) sends a message that you are not cheap and not a sucker also.

As with all things Medellin, it is important to be respectful to the people that you see regularly.There is an important difference between respectfulness and generosity.

You are right about respectfulness. Colombians are tired of arrogant Gringos with anger management problems.

However, I disagree about tipping. Generosity is interpreted differently in Colombia. Do not tip in any situation where Colombian men do not tip, and do not tip greater amounts than Colombian men tip.

Generosity makes you a sucker in the eyes of Colombians. Colombians do not respect suckers. Colombians do not appreciate generous people. Rather, Colombians take advantage of generous people.

You would be amazed at how minimal generosity on your part will generate the conclusion that you are a sucker on the part of Colombians. If you show some form of generosity to a Colombian once, then be prepared because that person will expect the same generosity every time you interact with them. Later, the expectations for generosity will increase steadily.

Although there are exceptions, the people that manage casas generally do not own the casas. Do not tip the managers when there are no attractive girls. This creates an incentive to not present attractive girls. Colombian men do not tip the managers of casas, and they certainly would not tip the managers for presenting unattractive girls.

There are two key sayings in Colombia that explain the entire culture. Both sayings involve the word "papaya" and every Gringo should have a Colombian explain the sayings to them.

[The Tall Man]

Spot On! Great info that evry newbie gringo to anywhere in Colombia needs to understand!

Thanks,

The Tall Man.


There is an important difference between respectfulness and generosity.

You are right about respectfulness. Colombians are tired of arrogant Gringos with anger management problems.

However, I disagree about tipping. Generosity is interpreted differently in Colombia. Do not tip in any situation where Colombian men do not tip, and do not tip greater amounts than Colombian men tip.

Generosity makes you a sucker in the eyes of Colombians. Colombians do not respect suckers. Colombians do not appreciate generous people. Rather, Colombians take advantage of generous people.

You would be amazed at how minimal generosity on your part will generate the conclusion that you are a sucker on the part of Colombians. If you show some form of generosity to a Colombian once, then be prepared because that person will expect the same generosity every time you interact with them. Later, the expectations for generosity will increase steadily.

Although there are exceptions, the people that manage casas generally do not own the casas. Do not tip the managers when there are no attractive girls. This creates an incentive to not present attractive girls. Colombian men do not tip the managers of casas, and they certainly would not tip the managers for presenting unattractive girls.

There are two key sayings in Colombia that explain the entire culture. Both sayings involve the word "papaya" and every Gringo should have a Colombian explain the sayings to them.

[Ricker]

Do not tip in any situation where Colombian men do not tip, and do not tip greater amounts than Colombian men tip.In other words, never tip, because I've never seen a Colombian dude tip.

[Orgasmico]

In other words, never tip, because I've never seen a Colombian dude tip.The problem with gringos is they start rationalizing the value of things in their currency instead of the value to Colombians in Colombia. Why upset the cultural norms?

[Manizales911]

There is an important difference between respectfulness and generosity.

However, I disagree about tipping. Generosity is interpreted differently in Colombia. Do not tip in any situation where Colombian men do not tip, and do not tip greater amounts than Colombian men tip.I would have agreed with you ten years ago in Colombia but not now. Colombians know that tipping in gringolandia is customary so when a gringo doesn't tip he loses respect because the Colombian knows that you aren't tipping because you think you can get away with it because you are in Colombia, Colombians don't tip but you aren't Colombian and all of the locals sure as hell know it. By the way, standard tip is a whopping 10% in Colombia.

[Ricker]

There are two key sayings in Colombia that explain the entire culture. Both sayings involve the word "papaya" and every Gringo should have a Colombian explain the sayings to them.The sayings involving "papaya" basically mean to not be an idiot and bring unwanted attention on yourself or be taken advantage of. It doesn't mean never tip, unless that's what you want it to mean, so you don't have to tip LOL.

I tip when I deem appropriate, and I don't tip like a fool. Even a small tip to show appreciation goes a long way.

If someone stands over me with a hand out asking for or expecting a tip, I don't tip.

Everyone appreciates a little extra, rewarding their good service.

I don't condone over-tipping like a fool, but tipping to not only show appreciation but to also set yourself up for even better service when you return.

It works and a lot of it's in the delivery too.

Bottom line, tip if you want, don't if don't want to, it's an individual decision.
Don't be a fool or taken advantage of, and don't flash bling or money.

Good luck!

[Hasideas Tao]

IMHO the big problem is fear and speculation. Some people are just cheapskates and that will not change. Some of us just have cheapskate moments and maybe that can be reduced if we are more awake to why we are here. For me it's because of the great attitudes that most of the culture seems to possess. I think we fear that tipping in Colombia will eventually become what it is in the USA An obligation! Many times an obligation to pay for poor service. It's worse than Tax.

I am not convinced Medellin must evolve this way and we as a group have something to say about it. Let us realize that we are kind of organized here. Jeje This is a forum read by many! What we write and do has an effect. This is about us. Tipping in Medellin is currently still at your option as long as we stay cool about it.

As has been said, it's in your delivery. If I can't think of something positive, then they probably deserve the tip as much as I deserve to lose the money. I find this true if someone asks me for a tip or not. In other words, they are no better than me and what I do is on impulse and I may or may not look like a cheapskate.

There are some experts on this board who can speak better than I. I hope they will offer an opinion as well. But to me, simple is best. "Thank you. This is for your excellent service. " Or, "No thank you, I only tip for excellent service. " The words "excellent service," can be interchanged with many things like. Being cool, making me feel comfortable, your great attitude. When I keep my language positive it is difficult to feel bad or uncomfortable if I have decided to tip or not.


I would have agreed with you ten years ago in Colombia but not now. Colombians know that tipping in gringolandia is customary so when a gringo doesn't tip he loses respect because the Colombian knows that you aren't tipping because you think you can get away with it because you are in Colombia, Colombians don't tip but you aren't Colombian and all of the locals sure as hell know it. By the way, standard tip is a whopping 10% in Colombia.

[Socker]

The sayings involving "papaya" basically mean to not be an idiot and bring unwanted attention on yourself or be taken advantage of. It doesn't mean never tip, unless that's what you want it to mean, so you don't have to tip LOL.

I tip when I deem appropriate, and I don't tip like a fool. Even a small tip to show appreciation goes a long way.

If someone stands over me with a hand out asking for or expecting a tip, I don't tip.

Everyone appreciates a little extra, rewarding their good service.

I don't condone over-tipping like a fool, but tipping to not only show appreciation but to also set yourself up for even better service when you return.

It works and a lot of it's in the delivery too.

Bottom line, tip if you want, don't if don't want to, it's an individual decision.
Don't be a fool or taken advantage of, and don't flash bling or money.

Good luck!The funny thing is most times when you give a really big tip to a hooker she's not going to gush her appreciation for your generosity, no she's going to take it quickly and gesture w / a nod of appreciation. I always thought this odd. I gave this big tip and she barely acknowledges it. As a result I started to force myself to tip much less and I would get the same or better response.

And then it occurred to me, maybe these ladies thought I made a mistake w / their currency, hence over tip and took the money quickly w / out a fuss. That's what happens sometimes when over tipping, you get zero in return in the form of appreciation. I have learned over time to not over tip.

[Manny51]

The funny thing is most times when you give a really big tip to a hooker she's not going to gush her appreciation for your generosity, no she's going to take it quickly and gesture w / a nod of appreciation. I always thought this odd. I gave this big tip and she barely acknowledges it. As a result I started to force myself to tip much less and I would get the same or better response.

And then it occurred to me, maybe these ladies thought I made a mistake w / their currency, hence over tip and took the money quickly w / out a fuss. That's what happens sometimes when over tipping, you get zero in return in the form of appreciation. I have learned over time to not over tip.I was going to pass this by, but this topic is sticking around and it irks me.

Tipping is stupid. Tipping is for workers in service related industries, like waitresses, cleaning ladies, and cabbies, who are paid very low wages by their employer and you tip them to supplement them for good or friendly service, for going the extra mile.

In most countries, punting is one of the highest paying jobs per hour around. You may laugh, but its true. Also the price you pay for punting is negotiated. You are paying her directly. Tipping is just giving her more money. Pure and simple. Generous tipping by some members of the community makes the chica respect the negotiated price less. It raises her expectations that you should just give her more and more money for no reason. Then the lack of tipping is considered an insult.

The other poster had it right. Generosity (if you want to call it that) is not the same as tipping. Be a gentleman. Be polite and treat her with discretion. But paradoxically, in the long run, lots of tipping in general makes the girls less happy.

[BayBoy]

A few years ago I was passing thru the Terminal de Transportes in Cali and saw a middle aged woman had a barbershop nook. So I stopped in and got a $3 haircut. It wasn't anything special just a regular haircut. But as I was paying her, she had that look on her face like she wanted a tip. Being the cheapskate that I am, I didn't tip her. But was a plagued with guilt pangs afterwards as I walked off. Should I have tipped her?

[MdeJohn]

I don't buy the whole, "these girls are making plenty of money as it is," argument against tipping. Unless you're pulling the girl off the street or through Facebook, she's likely getting only 50% of what you are paying. Yeah, it's not a bad per-hour wage but the job isn't exactly a 9-5 gig either. Ask yourself how much you would want to let 10+ nasty fat chicks hump around on you every day.

I don't tip extravagantly or every time but throwing a girl an extra 5 k or 10 k isn't that big of a deal. I don't tip for some huge gush of appreciative emotion afterwards, I tip because I got better service. Build a report with these girls and reward better service and you will see it.

[Manny51]

A few years ago I was passing thru the Terminal de Transportes in Cali and saw a middle aged woman had a barbershop nook. So I stopped in and got a $3 haircut. It wasn't anything special just a regular haircut. But as I was paying her, she had that look on her face like she wanted a tip. Being the cheapskate that I am, I didn't tip her. But was a plagued with guilt pangs afterwards as I walked off. Should I have tipped her?Sorry to say, but yes.

Although tipping varies from country to country, even here in the USA, where tipping is most deeply ingrained, there are some industries where you classically tip. Barbers / hair stylists are one of them. Normally, you can just read a Lonely Planet book or something to get an idea of when to tip.

In general, you tip lower level service jobs where the person is paid by an employer. In these settings, the salaries are kept low because the expected tipping income is figured into the employer's mind as part of his salary. He wants it that way, to encourage workers to give good service. In return, the worker gets unrecorded, tax free income.

Any job where you negotiate directly with the provider is NOT a tipping job. For example, it is appropriate to tip a cab driver. But if you negotiate and agree on a price with a personal driver, you generally should not tip him. There are other ways that you can "tip" him, like buying him a beer at the strip club, but not direct cash. It jimmys the deal.

Other people may do differently, but this is general tipping etiquitte. Guys who tip ladies, then get amazed when they demand a tip, need to realize why that is the case. It is psychology 101. Just watch those old high school videos about rewarding monkeys for doing this or that.

[Member #4287]

The funny thing is most times when you give a really big tip to a hooker she's not going to gush her appreciation for your generosity, no she's going to take it quickly and gesture w / a nod of appreciation. I always thought this odd. I gave this big tip and she barely acknowledges it. As a result I started to force myself to tip much less and I would get the same or better response.

And then it occurred to me, maybe these ladies thought I made a mistake w / their currency, hence over tip and took the money quickly w / out a fuss. That's what happens sometimes when over tipping, you get zero in return in the form of appreciation. I have learned over time to not over tip.I only tip chicks that have already showed me their appreciation.

Chicks that come over for an hour and end up staying 4 or 5.

Chicks that are very popular and break dates to be with me and answer their phone 24/7.

Doesn't really make much sense to tip chicks that you don't plan on seeing on a regular basis.

[Bart1]

Sure lots of various tipping stories, so I will get into the waters with of few of my experiences. Today I visited my favorite centro casa, I always buy the mamasan there a beer. Today in the midst of bliss we ran 10 + minutes over the 60 minutes. I stopped at the desk to see mamasan on the way out, she gave me a big smile and a wave. That sure beats having your time cut short that I have seen many times at other casas. When I get average or better service I always tip the chica, if I was going to tip the chica and she asks for a tip before I give her one, I give her half of what I was going to give her, and she is put on my possibly no return list. In my fav panaderia in centro, cafe con leche is 1000 cop, I always give the chica 500 cop when I get even only one smile, no smiles no tip One sweetheart, she is younger than my grandaughter, there runs her hand over my shoulders when she walks by me so she gets 1000 cop tip, that is 100% and that is from a canuck and we are known for not tipping In restaurants I tip 10%, if no smiles and lousy service, no tip. Maybe some of you have not heard the joke in Florida about snowbirds from canada. What is the difference between a canadian and a canoe, a canoe tips.

[Socker]

I only tip chicks that have already showed me their appreciation.

Chicks that come over for an hour and end up staying 4 or 5.

Chicks that are very popular and break dates to be with me and answer their phone 24/7.

Doesn't really make much sense to tip chicks that you don't plan on seeing on a regular basis.I just made an observation and a guess at why it happens. I am trying to help other guys not make the same mistakes I've made.

I only tip for good service and after more than a few cocktails I can get pretty happy and over tip. I am also enamored w / some of these gals and so I want to give.

More to show my appreciation for the magic they provide. My observation is that tipping appropriately or over tipping are usually accepted w / a polite thank you or nod.

I would love it to hear a big laugh of joy and the little babe jumps up into my arms and says THANK YOU SOCKER!! Planting a big kiss on my cheek. Jaja.

Over tipping just isn't worth it, appropriate tipping is, IMO.

Cheers!

[NCal2014]

Sure lots of various tipping stories, so I will get into the waters with of few of my experiences. Today I visited my favorite centro casa, I always buy the mamasan there a beer. Today in the midst of bliss we ran 10 + minutes over the 60 minutes. I stopped at the desk to see mamasan on the way out, she gave me a big smile and a wave. That sure beats having your time cut short that I have seen many times at other casas. When I get average or better service I always tip the chica, if I was going to tip the chica and she asks for a tip before I give her one, I give her half of what I was going to give her, and she is put on my possibly no return list. In my fav panaderia in centro, cafe con leche is 1000 cop, I always give the chica 500 cop when I get even only one smile, no smiles no tip One sweetheart, she is younger than my grandaughter, there runs her hand over my shoulders when she walks by me so she gets 1000 cop tip, that is 100% and that is from a canuck and we are known for not tipping In restaurants I tip 10%, if no smiles and lousy service, no tip. Maybe some of you have not heard the joke in Florida about snowbirds from canada. What is the difference between a canadian and a canoe, a canoe tips.Yes, I do the same with the merchant girls. If they treat me with a smile and a little carress I also leave 1 k tip. Also on the other hand if I agree with a chica for 1 hour limit and we get into 2-3 hours then yes I give a little extra. Rhis happened to me a few times in CTG. Mostly with the LDV girls. A SW automatically asked for a tip I told her it was in the price. And good bye.

[Manny51]

Maybe we should just clarify the semantics.

Tipping is when you give a percentage in addition to the total purchase price. It is not mandatory, but somewhat obligatory. Even if small, some tip is expected, and not to tip is considered impolite unless service was bad.

What most guys are doing is just deciding to give girls extra money for a job well done.

The problem is that when you call it a "tip," it means that giving it is obligatory. Then later down the line, the girls feel disrespected when you don't give it.

[Member #4394]

I never tip in Colombia, but the inverse things can happen sometimes. Last year, whenever I bought a piece of pastry at my fav panaderia in El Centro, a friendly girl at the shop always put an extra piece in the bag. That made me very happy. I may start tipping a few nice girls at panaderias this year.


In my fav panaderia in centro, cafe con leche is 1000 cop, I always give the chica 500 cop when I get even only one smile, no smiles no tip One sweetheart, she is younger than my grandaughter, there runs her hand over my shoulders when she walks by me so she gets 1000 cop tip, that is 100% and that is from a canuck and we are known for not tipping In restaurants I tip 10%, if no smiles and lousy service, no tip. Maybe some of you have not heard the joke in Florida about snowbirds from canada. What is the difference between a canadian and a canoe, a canoe tips..

[Vegas Jeff]

There is an important difference between respectfulness and generosity.

You are right about respectfulness. Colombians are tired of arrogant Gringos with anger management problems.

However, I disagree about tipping. Generosity is interpreted differently in Colombia. Do not tip in any situation where Colombian men do not tip, and do not tip greater amounts than Colombian men tip.

Generosity makes you a sucker in the eyes of Colombians. Colombians do not respect suckers. Colombians do not appreciate generous people...Wow, my simple suggestion regarding tipping the casa jefes grew some legs.

Back to my original example. Let's suppose I tip 4 casa jefes, 2 mil each, after going through 10 casas. This adds up to $4 total. If I am with someone else we are talking about $2 each. This was just a suggestion. Works for me.

As Ricker eluded to, it is about the vibe and friendliness. I don't feel comfortable passing through some of these places, some for as much as a year or more, without taking any girls. I do believe that these tips do not go unrewarded also. I find myself in many situations where things just seem to go my way. Maybe it is the karma? Probably just my attitude with the tips helping a little.

Don Sterling, I can see that you understand Colombian culture and have been around Colombians. IMO there are threads of truth in many of your assertions. I don't agree with not tipping and doing exactly as Colombians do though. I enjoy tipping 1-2 mil and receiving the warm responses. Also, I am never viewed as a sucker. It is all about finding the balance and repeating the habit. Same applies with the girls.

[Socker]

I was going to pass this by, but this topic is sticking around and it irks me.

Tipping is stupid. Tipping is for workers in service related industries, like waitresses, cleaning ladies, and cabbies, who are paid very low wages by their employer and you tip them to supplement them for good or friendly service,
The ultimate service work is prostitution and so I guess you can do w / out good or friendly service when seeking sexual services.

Hookers who have a fair amount of business can make really good money and that's how it should be. I can't think of a harder job than prostituton, where the lady drinks and parties w / you for YOUR pleasure and YOUR entertainment.

This job has extremely serious downsides yet the good hookers maintain a level of class and respect w / in their ranks and w / their clients.

So some might do very well, and tips are part of their success and some are paid very little and rely on tips to make ends meet.

I was just in Angeles City and I didn't see a lot a well off BGs. I saw hard working ladies dancing for hours w / various levels of desperation, a few popular ladies, all of which none were well off.

Ask them if tipping is stupid.

Prostitution is 100% service oriented and it's the hardest profession to provide good service, yet they try almost every time.

Thanks for your opinion. The above is mine. We are all a little different as it should be. Wouldn't it be freaking boring if we were all the same.....everything is as it should be here and everywhere.

I want to thank my mom for having me 6 decades ago :)

[Ricker]

Tipping is stupid ...
...paradoxically, in the long run, lots of tipping in general makes the girls less happy.In the short run though it gives added incentive, especially if you know what you're doing.

I don't care about the long run. Five years from now when she's washed up in the business and a hardened pro demanding tips, and less happy because the tips just aren't there.

I've already moved on.

Tipping being stupid is your opinion.

To me tipping is a tool.

I don't condone over tipping like a fool. Like Socker said, it really doesn't get you any further than a small, appreciative tip will.

To each their own really.

[Ricker]

The problem is that when you call it a "tip," it means that giving it is obligatory. Then later down the line, the girls feel disrespected when you don't give it.That's funny, I never feel like giving a tip or gratuity is obligatory, and by definition it isn't either:

1. a gift or reward, usually of money, for services rendered; tip.

2. something given without claim or obligation.

Straight from the dictionary.

If a girl performs normally, nothing special, don't tip.

If she performs exceptionally and you'd like to reward her, show your appreciation and tip if you'd like. Of course you don't have to.

If she then, in another encounter, doesn't perform well again, don't tip.

If she feels disrespected or asks why no tip this time, tell her why.

Ain't rocket science.

[Member #4287]

Maybe we should just clarify the semantics.

Tipping is when you give a percentage in addition to the total purchase price. It is not mandatory, but somewhat obligatory. Even if small, some tip is expected, and not to tip is considered impolite unless service was bad.

What most guys are doing is just deciding to give girls extra money for a job well done.

The problem is that when you call it a "tip," it means that giving it is obligatory. Then later down the line, the girls feel disrespected when you don't give it.

In Colombia I pay the service provider and then I hand them the "tip" and say " y la propina voluntaria". The phrase is so common. Yet. Somewhat unexpected when tipping a prepago that it often elicits at least a smile.

[Manny51]

The ultimate service work is prostitution and so I guess you can do w / out good or friendly service when seeking sexual services.

Hookers who have a fair amount of business can make really good money and that's how it should be. I can't think of a harder job than prostituton, where the lady drinks and parties w / you for YOUR pleasure and YOUR entertainment.

This job has extremely serious downsides yet the good hookers maintain a level of class and respect w / in their ranks and w / their clients.

So some might do very well, and tips are part of their success and some are paid very little and rely on tips to make ends meet.

I was just in Angeles City and I didn't see a lot a well off BGs. I saw hard working ladies dancing for hours w / various levels of desperation, a few popular ladies, all of which none were well off.

Ask them if tipping is stupid.

Prostitution is 100% service oriented and it's the hardest profession to provide good service, yet they try almost every time.

Thanks for your opinion. The above is mine. We are all a little different as it should be. Wouldn't it be freaking boring if we were all the same.....everything is as it should be here and everywhere.

I want to thank my mom for having me 6 decades ago :)Of course I respect your opinion and everyone's right to have one.

But your position is that prostitution is hard work, and that you appreciate what they do.

So why don't you just pay them more? Nothing wrong with that.

The problem is that if you call it "tipping," then over time it becomes expected. Just read the forums. Everyone once in a while someone will complain about girls getting surly when you don't tip them.

[Manny51]

That's funny, I never feel like giving a tip or gratuity is obligatory, and by definition it isn't either:

1. a gift or reward, usually of money, for services rendered; tip.

2. something given without claim or obligation.

Straight from the dictionary.

If a girl performs normally, nothing special, don't tip.

If she performs exceptionally and you'd like to reward her, show your appreciation and tip if you'd like. Of course you don't have to.

If she then, in another encounter, doesn't perform well again, don't tip.

If she feels disrespected or asks why no tip this time, tell her why.

Ain't rocket science.Where did you get that definition? Any definition in cultural context should include that, in an economic and cultural sense, at least some tip is obligatory. You know that full well that if you go to a a restaurant and don't tip the waitress, she will be mad, and you will feel bad. You know what I mean. Don't draw this out for the sake of arguing over semantics. I'm just trying to straighten out the semantics.

[BayBoy]

Speaking of restaurants, I've seen a lot of mongers who don't even look at a restaurant bill and see that the gratuity has already been put on the bill. Which is usually 10%. They just throw on a tip to whatever the amount is and don't realize they've already been charged.

[Vegas Jeff]

I can't think of a harder job than prostituton, where the lady drinks and parties w / you for YOUR pleasure and YOUR entertainment.This is a common perception of prostitutes. After spending extended time in The Third World around people, who work regular jobs, I find it hard to see things this way.

IMO Prostitution is a job for a lazy person. They all know that this was only an avenue to take under desperate circumstances and they got comfortable. I am constantly telling these girls things like, "you are pretty, you have a nice personality, you are smart, and talented, but you are lazy". Surprisingly, the girls do not get mad and see me as someone who cares. I have the perfect personality to get in these girl's faces, without judging them, when it comes to things like this. I don't nag these girls and let them do as they will.

The tough job will be returning to the normal workforce after age starts to take it's toll and the life of "easy money" ends.

[Bart1]

Speaking of restaurants, I've seen a lot of mongers who don't even look at a restaurant bill and see that the gratuity has already been put on the bill. Which is usually 10%. They just throw on a tip to whatever the amount is and don't realize they've already been charged.That may be the case in gringolandia, el poblado, but down here in el centro, the real Colombia, that only happens in a few upscale cafes. I also wonder what little if any of the auto added 10% ever reaches the hands of the chicas. I still always tip 10% even when I see the gratuity listed on the bill. A week ago I left a 500 cop tip in a panaderia I had not been before under my coffee cup saucer, we do have China cups and saucers in el centro, the chica came to me when I was at the cashier paying for my one cup of cafe, to give me the 500 cop, I told her it was her propina, then a big smile. , only in Colombia eh?

[Bart1]

I have been to the metro stations at Parque Berrio and San Antonio at 6 PM, people are lined up 20 to 30 or more deep to buy a one way ticket home from el centro after a long working day. Now tell me if you ride the metro daily why not have the prepaid card to avoid the long waits after you have worked as a waitress for a 12 hours, a normal daily work shift for 25 k, its because you are living basically hand to mouth. Those propinas are definitely needed especially by the chicas that work 12 hours for 25 k in cafes even more so than the chicas working 30 minutes for their 25 k in a casa.

[Orgasmico]

Speaking of restaurants, I've seen a lot of mongers who don't even look at a restaurant bill and see that the gratuity has already been put on the bill. Which is usually 10%. They just throw on a tip to whatever the amount is and don't realize they've already been charged.I wonder what the difference is between American and non-American visitors to Colombia when it comes to issues like these, particularly Europeans.

[Jinxx]

I think it's funny when they ask for a "propina voluntaria". Be*tch! The fact that you're asking me for it, by definition, means that it's not "voluntaria"!

I did a threesome with a couple of negritas in barcelona (casa) a couple of weeks ago and they REALLY did a good job of acting amazed at my cock size and level of my energy and stamina. When I busted my nut, the one I fucked last went and sat on the floor like she was in awe of how long and hard I pounded her. They asked for a propina so I gave them each 5 k. That goes against my rules but hey they gave me a hell of an ego boost.

Oh yea and stay away from "Nataly" at Zandaly casa. She's a real pretty, petite, white skinned chica with some nice fake boobs. She's sexy as hell but her service sucks. After about 1 minute of fucking she starts the "dame tu leche" which basically means "hurry up and cum", then she can't take it doggy style for more than maybe a minute. That's what she did the first time I saw her, then I picked her again hoping her service would improve the second time around and it was the same shitty experience.

Another thing, just because a chica works in a casa don't automatically assume that she's over 18 years old. I did a threesome with an 18 year old and 19 year old at a casa and I got their phone number to see them back at my hotel. Well when they show up they tell me that the 18 year old doesn't have her cedula. I told her well nevermind I'll just bang the 19 year old because I'm not going to try to get a very young looking chica past the hotel front desk with no cedula, I'll look like a f*cking creep and they might call the cops. The 19 year old speaks up and says let's go to one of the sh*tty hotels in el centro, they won't mind. I try to tell her I don't even want to try it at all, but I really wanted to bang the 19 year old and she was acting like she might leave too if I run off her little friend. So we walk to this shitty hotel that has a police sub station right across the street and the 19 year old talks the hotel lady into letting us in without showing cedulas. I'm thinking oh shit this is going to turn into a set up and I'm about to get fucked and not in a good way, but I follow my little head. Anyways I'm pounding the 18 year old while I'm looking out the window at the cops across the street. I'm literally looking to see if the hotel lady is going to get the cops to come shake me down. I'm that paranoid at this exact moment. I ended up banging the hell out of both of them, paying them, and feeling happy as hell to get the hell out of there without any problems. Moral of the story: the casas are SUPPOSED to only hire girls with valid I'd, but that isn't always the case, so watch your ass.

[TellAll]

Another thing, just because a chica works in a casa don't automatically assume that she's over 18 years old. I did a threesome with an 18 year old and 19 year old at a casa and I got their phone number to see them back at my hotel. Well when they show up they tell me that the 18 year old doesn't have her cedula. I told her well nevermind I'll just bang the 19 year old because I'm not going to try to get a very young looking chica past the hotel front desk with no cedula, I'll look like a f*cking creep and they might call the cops. The 19 year old speaks up and says let's go to one of the sh*tty hotels in el centro, they won't mind. I try to tell her I don't even want to try it at all, but I really wanted to bang the 19 year old and she was acting like she might leave too if I run off her little friend. So we walk to this shitty hotel that has a police sub station right across the street and the 19 year old talks the hotel lady into letting us in without showing cedulas. I'm thinking oh shit this is going to turn into a set up and I'm about to get fucked and not in a good way, but I follow my little head. Anyways I'm pounding the 18 year old while I'm looking out the window at the cops across the street. I'm literally looking to see if the hotel lady is going to get the cops to come shake me down. I'm that paranoid at this exact moment. I ended up banging the hell out of both of them, paying them, and feeling happy as hell to get the hell out of there without any problems. Moral of the story: the casas are SUPPOSED to only hire girls with valid I'd, but that isn't always the case, so watch your ass.What you did was so stupid, if you did get jacked by the police you would have deserved it. There is no pussy that good. You knew something was wrong and you went along anyway.

People always say they didn't deserve what happened to them when they do stupid shit, but a lot of times they do.

Having to look out the window at the police while fucking, yes sounds like fun.

Keep taking those kind of stupid risk and it will catch up with you eventually.

[Vegas Jeff]

I did a threesome with a couple of negritas in barcelona (casa) a couple of weeks ago and they REALLY did a good job of acting amazed at my cock size and level of my energy and stamina. When I busted my nut, the one I fucked last went and sat on the floor like she was in awe of how long and hard I pounded her. They asked for a propina so I gave them each 5 k. That goes against my rules but hey they gave me a hell of an ego boost.I have known this 20 year old semi pro girl named Sophia for about 4 months now. She is not a newbie but does not have sex for money that often. This girl is really pretty but has an inclination toward other girls. After having sex with her a few times in the past she started trying to persuade me to have threesomes with her. Sophia is pretty and tiny so anything remotely like her would be good.

A few weeks ago Sophia calls me and says that she is ready for the threesome. [Deleted by Admin]. She tells me that they want 250 k plus 30 k for taxi. I tell her no problem. I tell her that everything needs to be no condom and she needs to help with the new girl if necessary. She says no problem.

She calls me on the scheduled day and we set a date. After both of them arrive, things are going well. This girl is not brand new to P4 P but doesn't have much experience. I ask the other girl how old she is and she says 20. At this point I realize that she has brought a different girl. This girl is not nearly as hot as I would have expected but still doable. She has a great personality and things are connected. Other than the fact that I am not really hot for the other girl the sex is great. 69 between the girls with individual sessions of DATY. Everything is full service with switches from sex to BJ with girls alternating positions. We take a break for lunch and have another good second session. Although I had a great session I just can't get into the other girl enough for a repeat. 280 k with taxi included for about 3 1/2 hours.

Today, I had Sophia and [Deleted by Admin]. She arrived and was clearly hotter than the first girl but not as hot as Sophia. We listen to some music and smoke some pot. I ask the new girl how old she is and she says 18. She says that her birthday was 5 days ago. Well there goes that. I am still trying to figure out what I lost or gained by this revelation?? Afterward they hop in the shower and I get the room setup. We all get undressed. I start off by going down on the new girl. Sophia is rubbing her breasts and they are making out. I mount up in mish and off we go. The sex is connected and I am making out with Sophia a little. I switch over to Sophia. After about 3 minutes of sex she tells me to stop. I look down and there is blood everywhere. I am bareback also! I jump in the shower and she follows me in. She tells me that it is not her period and she has no soreness but this has happened before. I told her that she is out of commission for sex as I had a mental block from all that blood. After the shower Sophia gives me a great BJ while the other girl goes to the bathroom. She comes out of the bathroom and these girls are hot for each other. Some 69 action and then Sophia is eating this girl intensely. This is really hot. After this I fuck her for about 5 minutes. Sex is good. I switch positions and after 2 minutes this girl is a dead finish. She says that she is tired. I had only had sex one time in the previous 4 days and wanted much more. She says that she is hungry. I tell Sophia and her to get something to eat and I would wait in the bedroom. About 15 minutes later the girls return after eating cereal. The new girl gets on top and sex is really good but only for about 5 minutes. This girl is tired already again. I hop out of bed and jump in the shower. I get dressed to signal the session is over. 280 k for about 2 hours.

Afterward I kissed Sophia on my balcony and told her that it wasn't her fault. The blood was probably the difference between a great session and an unsatisfied session. As her and I both know, this is the unpredictable side that comes with new girls also. In P4 P it is all about ME. With regular girls it is all about them. This girl hadn't made that transition yet. I have seen this characteristic before in selfish nonpro Paisas. She had her orgasm and some good sex and was ready to go.

Moral of the story: Stay away from the nonpros and stick to the casas. Jajaja.

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[Member #4287]

I think it's funny when they ask for a "propina voluntaria". Be*tch! The fact that you're asking me for it, by definition, means that it's not "voluntaria"!
This tip topic is getting pretty hilarious. Are these women asking for a tip or are they really commanding you to give a tip. "propina voluntaria, YA!" jajaja.

[Nino Bravo]

Cali Hentai,

What's hilarious is, guys like you having to tip girls to answer their phones, and spending extra time with you. Jajaja. Are you that much of a turn off?

[SavePros321]

What you did was so stupid, if you did get jacked by the police you would have deserved it. There is no pussy that good. You knew something was wrong and you went along anyway.

People always say they didn't deserve what happened to them when they do stupid shit, but a lot of times they do.

Having to look out the window at the police while fucking, yes sounds like fun.

Keep taking those kind of stupid risk and it will catch up with you eventually.It's like he was saying: "Warning: don't come here and engage in retarded shit like I do. But if you do decide to go that route, let me show you how it's done!"

I see why some of you are always looking for "wingman" for your trips. Someone to bail your retarded asses out of jail for doing retarded shit, LOL.

[Orgasmico]

This tip topic is getting pretty hilarious. Are these women asking for a tip or are they really commanding you to give a tip. "propina voluntaria, YA!" jajaja.My buddy got turned off because the girls walk around and ask for tips at the strip clubs after they finish dancing, LOL. He pulled out 1 k to give the girl which happened to be with a 2 k bill. When the stripper saw she was getting the 1 k instead of the 2 k she told him to give her the 2 k instead of the 1 k LOL. Sometimes we already had chics and were drinking with them and not ever watching the dancers and the girls still came right to him and ask for a tip LOL.

[Bbrocs]

My buddy got turned off because the girls walk around and ask for tips at the strip clubs after they finish dancing, LOL. He pulled out 1 k to give the girl which happened to be with a 2 k bill. When the stripper saw she was getting the 1 k instead of the 2 k she told him to give her the 2 k instead of the 1 k LOL. Sometimes we already had chics and were drinking with them and not ever watching the dancers and the girls still came right to him and ask for a tip LOL.It's their pay, the house pays almost none of them for coming in. Especially in centro. The whole salary comes from these 1 K tips. Drinks, and sex on premise. It's .50 cents if you want to avoid that. Hit Mayorista. No pressure. Cheap food and drinks and a lot of chicks to look at.

[SavePros321]

editor's note: this report was deleted in accordance with the forum's zero tolerance policy prohibiting reports containing any references to any persons under the age of 18. this restriction includes references in the form of code words like "very young" and "young girls". please read the forum's posting guidelines for further information.jeff, as a senior monger i have to say i am a bit shocked at you. that reefer seems fucking with your judgement and decision making skills.

they don't call it "dope" for nothing, lmao!

and why is admin not banning folks posting about their **** sexcapades to begin with? last thing we need is another journalist reading this forum then writing another hit piece about guys traveling to colombia strictly for **** sex.

[Vegas Jeff]

It's their pay, the house pays almost none of them for coming in. Especially in centro. The whole salary comes from these 1 K tips. Drinks, and sex on premise. It's .50 cents if you want to avoid that. Hit Mayorista. No pressure. Cheap food and drinks and a lot of chicks to look at.Yep. Good angle and comparison.

I do not go the strip clubs often but when I do I give a 2 mil tip after each girl dances if approached. When the girl approaches for the tip I turn my cheek and say "besito" as they kiss me. It is all about the friendliness and vibe. Socker alluded to having similar experiences with the girls.

I have a friend that was in Medellin for three weeks recently. He stayed in The Normandy Hotel in El Centro which right next to the night time strip clubs. He stayed there because he had just had hip surgery and could not walk much. Every day he would have sex with a girl from a nearby Centro MP or have a date to the room. At night he would hang out for part of the night in the strip clubs giving 2 mil tips to the dancers after they left the stage. He said that he was having sex with the girls about every other night and was having good sessions. He reported that his increased mileage was due to building connections with the girls nightly while hanging out. He said that the girls got used to him being there and did not feel much pressure. Although he had a good trip he said that if he were healthy he would return to the Belen or Laureles area.

My original example was in reference to the casa jefes and the topic has spread to other areas. I agree, as Manny mentioned, that tipping prostitutes for sex leads to higher prices and is not an actual tip at all. It is important to separate this area of payment from other tipping areas.

[Orgasmico]

Hit Mayorista. Thanks, I got a couple of other places for street walkers that I prefer over Mayorista, but I go there occasionally as well.

[Orgasmico]

It's .50 cents if you want to avoid that. Don't understand what you mean? I usually tip in pesos at the strip club, not cents.

[Member #4287]

My buddy got turned off because the girls walk around and ask for tips at the strip clubs after they finish dancing, LOL. He pulled out 1 k to give the girl which happened to be with a 2 k bill. When the stripper saw she was getting the 1 k instead of the 2 k she told him to give her the 2 k instead of the 1 k LOL. Sometimes we already had chics and were drinking with them and not ever watching the dancers and the girls still came right to him and ask for a tip LOL.I have a friend that is exactly the same way. Just amazes me sometimes.

Why the guy can't just relax, have a good time and give the girls a one or two mil bill when they come around or even just blow them off if he wants. Without stressing out is beyond me. And when I take him to a club where the strippers don't really come around asking for tips. He complains that the women are ugly. LOL.

I personally would rather have a girl that dances in a strip club in Colombia come over after her set and ask for a tip than watch pussy worshiping American guys throw hundreds of dollars at strippers that do almost nothing for the money except for some kind of simulated sex act.

I will have to admit that there is just something I like about having a pretty damn hot naked chick right in front of me asking for what amounts to a dollar. And if you just give it to them with out making them standing around begging for it too long. They will often thank you for it.

[Concarne]

Thanks, I got a couple of other places for street walkers that I prefer over Mayorista, but I go there occasionally as well.Orgasmico. I am looking into returning in August. Love exploring the SG scene. Other than Centro and Mayo and maybe that are around the San Diego Strip club. Any other SG areas you can recommend?

I love finding new areas. By the way I am fluent in spanish and can blend like a local.

Thanks!

[Concarne]

It's their pay, the house pays almost none of them for coming in. Especially in centro. Seriously? Wow. I did not know that. That sucks for sure.

[Hioctane]

Don't understand what you mean? I usually tip in pesos at the strip club, not cents.1 k is about 50 cents.

[Almotu]

I only tip chicks that have already showed me their appreciation.

Chicks that come over for an hour and end up staying 4 or 5.

Chicks that are very popular and break dates to be with me and answer their phone 24/7.

Doesn't really make much sense to tip chicks that you don't plan on seeing on a regular basis.Very well put.

[Bbrocs]

Very well put.While having a bunch over for a party to entertain our clients, girls were way way way into there fucking phones. I noted to myself which ones and made sure never ever to call them in again. When you get back to your apartment I told them in a low pitch voice by all means check your facebook, whatsap, viber status. BUT right now put that in your pocket book or leave. Funny how that works wonders. They asked me to change the music over to latin and have the guys start talking to them. I did both, I reminded the guys that this is not 9th grade you need to show interest. In other cultures the girls maybe a bit more aggressive then paisas. But here a simple look at a guy quickly over the tops of there phones is how they flirt. I will never understand women. I am with Calihentai 100% though on what he just wrote.

[Concarne]

Very well put.Amen to that.

You tip a 10 who is a cold fish? Hell no.

You tip a 7 who rocked your world, did everything you ask, caters to you. And on and on. Hell yeah. And it does not have to be something big either. Little appreciation goes a long way.

[Orgasmico]

1 k is about 50 cents.I'm from China vacationing in Colombia. Why would I care about 50 cents?

[Kamao]

Decided to try energy today in the late afternoon. Got salome this slim girl with braces. Opted for the 1 hour for cop 120 k. Obvious that she's had a baby, as there are scars there, but otherwise nice looking body. Tried to ask for BBBJ, but she insists on CBJ. Fine. Figured that's the policy. Onwards to the main act. Was going okay, but then in the middle of me going at it, after about 15-20 minutes of sex, she says that she is tired, and suggests we finish it with more CBJ or a HJ. WTH? What a loss of momentum. Is that normal? Not quite happy with that. Not what I was expecting. So I finished with more CBJ and HJ. Overall, she has a nice face and body, but the service leaves much to be desired. If that is the norm, would think twice before coming back here. She even asked for a tip afterwards. Was thinking of not giving her any propina, but what the hell, gave her a small tip. She explains later that the 1 hour is divided into massage, oral, and sex. So it cannot be all sex. Bummer!

[Ricker]

Decided to try energy today in the late afternoon. Got salome this slim girl with braces. Opted for the 1 hour for cop 120 k. Obvious that she's had a baby, as there are scars there, but otherwise nice looking body. Tried to ask for BBBJ, but she insists on CBJ. Fine. Figured that's the policy. Onwards to the main act. Was going okay, but then in the middle of me going at it, after about 15-20 minutes of sex, she says that she is tired, and suggests we finish it with more CBJ or a HJ. WTH? What a loss of momentum. Is that normal? Not quite happy with that. Not what I was expecting. So I finished with more CBJ and HJ. Overall, she has a nice face and body, but the service leaves much to be desired. If that is the norm, would think twice before coming back here. She even asked for a tip afterwards. Was thinking of not giving her any propina, but what the hell, gave her a small tip. She explains later that the 1 hour is divided into massage, oral, and sex. So it cannot be all sex. Bummer!Now there's the perfect example of a girl that does NOT deserve a tip.

Her explanation of the hour's breakdown is total BS too.

I would have laughed at her, maybe even got up and left in the middle of it all, and had a talk with the madam.

Though I always treat the girls with respect, I expect the same and to not be treated like a bobo.

No disrespect to you Kamao, but tipping that type behavior will only add to her attitude.

She can give crappy service and still have gringos tip her.

Almost hard to blame her, and I'm sure you're not the first.

I'd bet she doesn't pull that crap with the local boys.

Anyway, that's definitely not the norm.

Keep your dignity amigo.

As I'm sure you do, treat them with respect, but demand the same.

Good luck.

[TellAll]

Now there's the perfect example of a girl that does NOT deserve a tip.

Her explanation of the hour's breakdown is total BS too.

I would have laughed at her, maybe even got up and left in the middle of it all, and had a talk with the madam.

Though I always treat the girls with respect, I expect the same and to not be treated like a bobo.

No disrespect to you Kamao, but tipping that type behavior will only add to her attitude.

She can give crappy service and still have gringos tip her.

Almost hard to blame her, and I'm sure you're not the first.

I'd bet she doesn't pull that crap with the local boys.

Anyway, that's definitely not the norm.

Keep your dignity amigo.

As I'm sure you do, treat them with respect, but demand the same.

Good luck.If possible I always try to do 30 minutes with a girl I don't know. If the service is shit like this was, I have lost out on less money.

I agree, that one deserved no tip.

[Member #4287]

Decided to try energy today in the late afternoon. Got salome this slim girl with braces. Opted for the 1 hour for cop 120 k. Obvious that she's had a baby, as there are scars there, but otherwise nice looking body. Tried to ask for BBBJ, but she insists on CBJ. Fine. Figured that's the policy. Onwards to the main act. Was going okay, but then in the middle of me going at it, after about 15-20 minutes of sex, she says that she is tired, and suggests we finish it with more CBJ or a HJ. WTH? What a loss of momentum. Is that normal? Not quite happy with that. Not what I was expecting. So I finished with more CBJ and HJ. Overall, she has a nice face and body, but the service leaves much to be desired. If that is the norm, would think twice before coming back here. She even asked for a tip afterwards. Was thinking of not giving her any propina, but what the hell, gave her a small tip. She explains later that the 1 hour is divided into massage, oral, and sex. So it cannot be all sex. Bummer!I wouldn't get too upset about that kind of experience in a casa.

It's called sore ass. Happens after then have been banged half a dozen times or more in a day. Jajaja.

Don't know that I would associate the performance of one chick to the entire establishment. Try a different girl next time or even the same one on a better day. Everybody knows that having sex in a casa in the least intimate and most mechanical sex you can have in Medellin.

[Member #4394]

I agree with the former, but disagree with the latter.


Try a different girl next time or even the same one on a better day. ..

[ForceSteeler]

I wouldn't get too upset about that kind of experience in a casa.

It's called sore ass. Happens after then have been banged half a dozen times or more in a day. Jajaja.

Don't know that I would associate the performance of one chick to the entire establishment. Try a different girl next time or even the same one on a better day. Everybody knows that having sex in a casa in the least intimate and most mechanical sex you can have in Medellin.So should I just stick with the Mansion girls? Are the Mansion girls GFE or are they hardcore?

What are some good options on pickup up some girls, I seen some girls in Hooters Medellin. Are they down for some P4 P? Or will I get slapped?

Sorry for all these questions I will take my first trip to Medellin in 2 months.

[MdeJohn]

Decided to try energy today in the late afternoon. Got salome this slim girl with braces. Opted for the 1 hour for cop 120 k. Obvious that she's had a baby, as there are scars there, but otherwise nice looking body. Tried to ask for BBBJ, but she insists on CBJ. Fine. Figured that's the policy. Onwards to the main act. Was going okay, but then in the middle of me going at it, after about 15-20 minutes of sex, she says that she is tired, and suggests we finish it with more CBJ or a HJ. WTH? What a loss of momentum. Is that normal? Not quite happy with that. Not what I was expecting. So I finished with more CBJ and HJ. Overall, she has a nice face and body, but the service leaves much to be desired. If that is the norm, would think twice before coming back here. She even asked for a tip afterwards. Was thinking of not giving her any propina, but what the hell, gave her a small tip. She explains later that the 1 hour is divided into massage, oral, and sex. So it cannot be all sex. Bummer!I live just 5 minutes from Energy and even as one of the most expensive casas the price isn't anything to worry about but do not go for just that reason. My first experience was great. Great looking girl started with a massage that was nearly professional quality, oils and everything, that lasted for at least 20 minutes. The sex was just as good.

Every time since then, including once with the same girl, all they want to do is go straight to sex or give it a very short, half-assed massage. Try getting kissing or BBBJ and you're looking at least a tip of 35 k or more for each service. Don't even think about going twice without paying the girl another 60 k.

I'm not saying I expect the girls to go at it like I'm there one and only but the Energy girls are just phoning it in every time. I've had much better experiences at Fantasia or New Life for casas and better than that at the strip clubs.

[Orgasmico]

Is that normal? Not quite happy with that. Was thinking of not giving her any propina, but what the hell, gave her a small tip.That hasn't been my experience in Meddy, but I usually start with a half hour and play it by ear. Also, I don't tip for bad service.

[Turgid]

Decided to try energy today in the late afternoon. Got salome this slim girl with braces. Opted for the 1 hour for cop 120 k. She explains later that the 1 hour is divided into massage, oral, and sex. So it cannot be all sex. Bummer!That's the classic excuse of a puta who does not want to provide proper service. I usually threaten to complain to management when she says that. I refuse to waste my precious leche on a HJ or CBJ. If she insists on HJ or CBJ I usually end the session then and there and do complain to management. Its rarely settled in my favor, however.

[Ricker]

I wouldn't get too upset about that kind of experience in a casa.

It's called sore ass. Happens after then have been banged half a dozen times or more in a day. Jajaja.

Don't know that I would associate the performance of one chick to the entire establishment. Try a different girl next time or even the same one on a better day. Everybody knows that having sex in a casa in the least intimate and most mechanical sex you can have in Medellin.I agree about not associating one girls bad performance on the entire place, but disagree with the last statement.

Especially on my most recent trip, I had some spectacular sessions at the casas, one which lasted over three hours.

Though of course I've had some casa duds, I don't believe I've ever had a girl lecture me on the do's and don't's of the hour session Lol

[Bbrocs]

So should I just stick with the Mansion girls? Are the Mansion girls GFE or are they hardcore?

What are some good options on pickup up some girls, I seen some girls in Hooters Medellin. Are they down for some P4 P? Or will I get slapped?

Sorry for all these questions I will take my first trip to Medellin in 2 months.If you get a hooters girl, pat yourself on the back. But you might get slapped. You can fish on Facebook, walk around in some shopping centers in centro. My friend got like 6 offers for dates while walking around with him down there, normal chicks, but fuck he's both good looking and blue eyes.

Hit the ground running with Latino Cupid. Plenty plenty of fish here.

[Member #4287]

So should I just stick with the Mansion girls? Are the Mansion girls GFE or are they hardcore?

What are some good options on pickup up some girls, I seen some girls in Hooters Medellin. Are they down for some P4 P? Or will I get slapped?

Sorry for all these questions I will take my first trip to Medellin in 2 months.Mansion girls are your overall best bet for a newbie looking for an attractive chick that is capable of giving a good GFE.

The hottest Mansion chicks get more hookups through facebook than through the Mansion so you really need to spend at least a week there bare minimum to get in the loop.

I was surprised to see a couple doable chicks are Liquid last time I was there. So I'd put that on my to do list if I were you.

You can find some absolute stunners trolling on facebook but some are very inexperienced and have a high flake factor. I guess some of them get cold feet at the last minute.

Also very attractive women at the strip clubs Fase 2 and The Girls. But a lot of them are hardcore. Always good to get phone numbers from a number of women and then see who you can get to come over later in the week. If they make a date with you and come over instead of going to work at the Club that more than doubles you chances of having a GFE.

[ForceSteeler]

Mansion girls are your overall best bet for a newbie looking for an attractive chick that is capable of giving a good GFE.

The hottest Mansion chicks get more hookups through facebook than through the Mansion so you really need to spend at least a week there bare minimum to get in the loop.

I was surprised to see a couple doable chicks are Liquid last time I was there. So I'd put that on my to do list if I were you.

You can find some absolute stunners trolling on facebook but some are very inexperienced and have a high flake factor. I guess some of them get cold feet at the last minute.

Also very attractive women at the strip clubs Fase 2 and The Girls. But a lot of them are hardcore. Always good to get phone numbers from a number of women and then see who you can get to come over later in the week. If they make a date with you and come over instead of going to work at the Club that more than doubles you chances of having a GFE.I also heard girls are willing to go bareback BBJ and bareback sex if you give them extra pesos. I think that is scary. I know in Asia is easy to get a bareback BBJ and Bareback Sex.

How is the HIV and STD rate. I always use condoms but you can never trust condoms they break. I'm just scared to know and want to be extra careful.

Also do they like Anal? Coolio? Like the Brazilians?

[TellAll]

I also heard girls are willing to go bareback BBJ and bareback sex if you give them extra pesos. I think that is scary. I know in Asia is easy to get a bareback BBJ and Bareback Sex.

How is the HIV and STD rate. I always use condoms but you can never trust condoms they break. I'm just scared to know and want to be extra careful.

Also do they like Anal? Coolio? Like the Brazilians?There is HIV and STD's anywhere you go now or where you live. If you are overly concerned about that, you are in the wrong hobby.

[SavePros321]

Also do they like Anal? Coolio? Like the Brazilians?Coolio, the rapper? I didn't know he was even still putting out albums!

[TellAll]

Coolio, the rapper? I didn't know he was even still putting out albums!That's funny. Yes homeboy FS definately needs to brush up on his spanish. LOL.

[Manny51]

There is HIV and STD's anywhere you go now or where you live. If you are overly concerned about that, you are in the wrong hobby.That being said, to answer the question, I would say that the STD risk is average. There are places both worse and better.

[SeizeTheDay]

i also heard girls are willing to go bareback bbj and bareback sex if you give them extra pesos. i think that is scary. i know in asia is easy to get a bareback bbj and bareback sex.

how is the hiv and std rate. i always use condoms but you can never trust condoms they break. i'm just scared to know and want to be extra careful.

also do they like anal? coolio? like the brazilians?i was not going to post anything but thought maybe i could share my perspective. i am sure you could find some statistics on stds through google quite easily. however this is more of a philosophical question rather than a statistical one in my opinion. first if you are really concerned about stds then maybe mongering is not for you, and perhaps sex in general as well. as you said yourself condoms do break, so the potential is always there. i bring my own condoms though and i do not buy the cheap mainstream trash bag brands. but should one really be concerned with stds in the first place is the question i pose. it is not as if we can choose whether or not we are infected. i must state that i am not suggesting not getting tested regularly as i am definitely up to date on my own health. but rather when one goes on their trip why not just say "there are risks involved in all endeavors in life, and whatever happens happens". i think this is a much better approach than worrying every second of the trip about things no man can control. if you are going to be sprouting new grey hairs because of this trip, you might as well stay your ass home. what i am about to say might be considered controversial especially on this site but; i believe that at some point in your life you have to spread your legs, letting your nuts hang and your dick swing. now this may be the brazen self-confidence of youth speaking on my part but that is my opinion, whether it is liked or not. i am not saying that stds are innocuous but rather that the delectability of life should take precedence over everything thereof. when i first posted on this forum over a year ago seeking information about bareback sex / anal; i got the information i sought after, as well as some stern lectures as i should have. however allow me to recapitulate a story. i went to medellin shortly thereafter, and i did about as much as there is humanly possible to do in pertinence with the given conversation. bareback vaginal, bareback anal, kissing, cunnilingus, bareback fellatio, not to mention having my tongue deep down the assholes of many prostitutes. i get back to the united states sober as the day i was born yet feeling as if every cell in my body was composed of the purest mdma in the universe. once home in the states i got tested for everything. i had nothing. no hiv, no aids, no herpes, no syphilis, no chlamydia, no gonorrhea, nothing. absolutely nothing. i was 21 at the time and my sister was 18. she was in community college, and like any young college student away from home partook in casual sex. it was from this "normal sex" that she contracted an std. maybe i am just too cynical, but i find the irony in this to be quite hilarious. she used condoms, engaged in sex with her peers around her age. and there was no coercion or compensation involved. yet mongering is what is considered risqué behavior in my country. i believe that what is truly risky in the realm of sexual relations is having sex within the confines of united states boarders. in closing i am not promoting my behavior, for each man's path is his own to choose. i merely ask, with death assured is living not a necessity?

[Member #4349]

i was not going to post anything but thought maybe i could share my perspective. i am sure you could find some statistics on stds through google quite easily. however this is more of a philosophical question rather than a statistical one in my opinion. first if you are really concerned about stds then maybe mongering is not for you, and perhaps sex in general as well. as you said yourself condoms do break, so the potential is always there. i bring my own condoms though and i do not buy the cheap mainstream trash bag brands. but should one really be concerned with stds in the first place is the question i pose. it is not as if we can choose whether or not we are infected. i must state that i am not suggesting not getting tested regularly as i am definitely up to date on my own health. but rather when one goes on their trip why not just say "there are risks involved in all endeavors in life, and whatever happens happens". i think this is a much better approach than worrying every second of the trip about things no man can control. if you are going to be sprouting new grey hairs because of this trip, you might as well stay your ass home. what i am about to say might be considered controversial especially on this site but; i believe that at some point in your life you have to spread your legs, letting your nuts hang and your dick swing.Google aids prep truvada. Near 100% coverage when used correctly. Bit pricey though.

[Mojo Bandit]

I'm from China vacationing in Colombia. Why would I care about 50 cents?The question then becomes, if you can afford to vacation Colombia from China, why would you care about 8 fēn ？.

[Av8r]

I was surprised to see a couple doable chicks are Liquid last time I was there. So I'd put that on my to do list if I were you.

You can find some absolute stunners trolling on facebook but some are very inexperienced and have a high flake factor. I guess some of them get cold feet at the last minute.

Also very attractive women at the strip clubs Fase 2 and The Girls. But a lot of them are hardcore. Always good to get phone numbers from a number of women and then see who you can get to come over later in the week. If they make a date with you and come over instead of going to work at the Club that more than doubles you chances of having a GFE.Thanks for the nice plug Cali. Like I've said before, we did have problems in the past, but they have been fixed. We have between 4-12 girls a night, and like Cali said some are very doable. Just like any place, we do have a few that we'd rather were not there, and we continually cull, but I am very picky as most people know, and I can always find one or two a night. Of course I always let the guests have first pick (really), but I'm continually amazed at some of the stunners that are still here at the end of the night.

See the Liquid thread for more info.......http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3546-LIQUID-STRIP-(formerly-Liquid-Lounge)&p=1583811&posted=1#post1583811

[Vegas Jeff]

Everybody knows that having sex in a casa in the least intimate and most mechanical sex you can have in Medellin.Cali Hentai,

IMO this depends on the individual. Every guy I know down here, that hits the casas, has at least one girl that rocks their world and gives them all that they are looking for. Also, some of these girls bounce around between the casas, The Mansion, apartments, and the internet. If you meet the girl in the casa, you just receive a better price. The main criticism that I get with the casas is that most guys want to drink, do drugs, and have sex in the late afternoon or evening. By this time the girls have already had a bunch of sex, are tired, or the place is closed. Don't forget that the night scene costs more that the day scene, many times for equal or lesser services. I have found this to be the case in all countries. Some things to keep in mind with regards to the mileage in the casas.

Are you comfortable in an MP?

Do you walk through a few places to find the right connection?

Do you have really high standards on appearance and need only the hottest girls?

Do you talk with the girl in the waiting room before your session to build a connection and establish a few things?

For me, I would put The Mayo at the bottom along with The Strip Clubs in this regard. At the top of the list would be referrals from the girls that I have already established something with.

[Hawk452]

I will be in Medellin from the 11th of July till 21st and my lodging plans fell threw. I have heard of a couple of places The Mansion and some Club VIP, but can't find any recent info on them. Are they like BlackBeards in the dominicain? Great place to stay? Any help or advise would be appreciated.

[Orgasmico]

Do you talk with the girl in the waiting room before your session to build a connection and establish a few things?
I have a friend that complains that the girls in the casa lineups come out too quickly for him to check out and he doesn't understand why the business model isn't to let the girls all hang out in front with the guys.

[SlamCity7777]

I have a friend that complains that the girls in the casa lineups come out too quickly for him to check out and he doesn't understand why the business model isn't to let the girls all hang out in front with the guys.I asked the same thing! It comes down to "That's how we've always done it!" is the answer I get from the Mamasans and other managers. If you take a second to think on it you can see why. The reality of the situation is that there is a "real" world behind the girls. Down time. When they are not working hard for that buck they are all sitting in back in sweat pants, doing home work, and watching TV. You knqw; just hanging out waiting for a client to come whip out his junk.

Also some dudes IMO have "Big Shot" disease. They'd tie up 2 or more girls, chat them up for a while, buy a few drinks, ect and that just sucks for everybody but the big shot. The casas are built for a nice quick pump and dump.

[BrasilSoccer0]

You can ask the mgr after, all the girls been presented, to call down the one / s you like. Just tell him, I am not sure but I'd like to talk with them before I make a choice. Better do this ASAP! Don't hesitate or be bashful. I've done this a couple of time and I was glad I did.


I have a friend that complains that the girls in the casa lineups come out too quickly for him to check out and he doesn't understand why the business model isn't to let the girls all hang out in front with the guys.

[Orgasmico]

i asked the same thing! it comes down to "that's how we've always done it!" is the answer i get from the mamasans and other managers. i began to notice that, depending on the casa, some girls would peek through a curtain or do something to see who was out there before they came out. i was talking to a casa girl about this and she said the girls do this and don't hang out in front because many work in the casas on the dl and they would not come out if they knew their father or someone they didn't want to know was in the viewing / waiting area.

[Av8r]

See more info about them in the Liquid thread.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3546-LIQUID-STRIP-(formerly-Liquid-Lounge).

[Vegas Jeff]

You can ask the mgr after, all the girls been presented, to call down the one / s you like. Just tell him, I am not sure but I'd like to talk with them before I make a choice. Better do this ASAP! Don't hesitate or be bashful. I've done this a couple of time and I was glad I did.In most places you have 1-2 minutes and then the manager will return and want an answer.

Use your time wisely. Break the ice and then ask for what you want.

Slow everything way the fuck down and don't be hyper.

How you use these few minutes can increase your mileage in the bedroom for sure.

Maybe you will decide not to take her after the conversation.

Either way it is wise to take advantage of this "free time" with the girls.

[Loki]

I'm guessing everything that is cherished by the mongers in this forum is closed? Does anyone know a place that might be open?

[Jinxx]

I see guys just sitting around shooting the sh*t with the girls and with eachother all the time in the casas. At first I thought it was only the colombians who do this, but this last trip I saw a few gringos doing the same thing. I'm not sure why a guy would want to just sit around and hang out with p*tas but to each his own. I show up, pick my one or two chicas and I get straight to getting my cock worked. As a matter of fact the next time I'm in Medellin I'm going to make it a point to purposely pick the chica that some guy is just sitting there chit-chatting with. If I see some bozo sitting there telling a chica his life story I'm going to be like "excuse me bro let me go bang the hell out of this chick real quick, I'll have her back with you in 30 minutes I promise". I can understand a minute or two to get the feel of what her attitude is like, but sitting there having a whole conversation about non sex related bs? Come the f*ck on dude!

Another thing, make sure you examine a chica real good before you just dive into kissing them and eating their pussy. I picked this one HOT chica in a casa and once I was already fucking her I started kissing her neck and cheek, then when I was just about to try to see if she'd let me kiss her on the lips I noticed she had a big cold sore on her lips. I was thinking oh sh*t how did I miss that? I still gave her a good pounding but that cold sore on her mouth kinda threw me off. Good thing I didn't ask her for BBBJ. Then when I was in Cali at dr amor I had a smoking HOT chica and I was like a half inch from diving into eating her pussy and I saw a couple of little bumps right above her clit, and they didn't look like razor bumps. Needless to say I din't eat her pussy. I still banged the sh*t out of her because she was gorgeous but those bumps kinda threw me off a little bit. I just made sure my skin didn't come into contact with the part I wasn't sure about.

[Ricker]

I see guys just sitting around shooting the sh*t with the girls and with eachother all the time in the casas. At first I thought it was only the colombians who do this, but this last trip I saw a few gringos doing the same thing. I'm not sure why a guy would want to just sit around and hang out with p*tas but to each his own. I show up, pick my one or two chicas and I get straight to getting my cock worked. As a matter of fact the next time I'm in Medellin I'm going to make it a point to purposely pick the chica that some guy is just sitting there chit-chatting with. If I see some bozo sitting there telling a chica his life story I'm going to be like "excuse me bro let me go bang the hell out of this chick real quick, I'll have her back with you in 30 minutes I promise". I can understand a minute or two to get the feel of what her attitude is like, but sitting there having a whole conversation about non sex related bs? Come the f*ck on dude!

Another thing, make sure you examine a chica real good before you just dive into kissing them and eating their pussy. I picked this one HOT chica in a casa and once I was already fucking her I started kissing her neck and cheek, then when I was just about to try to see if she'd let me kiss her on the lips I noticed she had a big cold sore on her lips. I was thinking oh sh*t how did I miss that? I still gave her a good pounding but that cold sore on her mouth kinda threw me off. Good thing I didn't ask her for BBBJ. Then when I was in Cali at dr amor I had a smoking HOT chica and I was like a half inch from diving into eating her pussy and I saw a couple of little bumps right above her clit, and they didn't look like razor bumps. Needless to say I din't eat her pussy. I still banged the sh*t out of her because she was gorgeous but those bumps kinda threw me off a little bit. I just made sure my skin didn't come into contact with the part I wasn't sure about.Pretty sure I'm a Bozo.

I've been with casa girls, ones that I have a connection with, gone back to the room for fun, come out for a drink and chit chat a bit, tell my life story LOL, and then back to the room again.

If you want her while I'm talking with her, please let me know, and I'll let ya know if I'm done yet.

Is it really any different than sitting around talking with Mansion girls and then going up for fun?

Not really, just a different setting.

We're not all slam bam, where's the next one type guys.

And really, a girl's not going to sit and around and BS in a casa if she doesn't want to as well.

[Av8r]

Pretty sure I'm a Bozo.

I've been with casa girls, ones that I have a connection with, gone back to the room for fun, come out for a drink and chit chat a bit, tell my life story LOL, and then back to the room again.

If you want her while I'm talking with her, please let me know, and I'll let ya know if I'm done yet.

Is it really any different than sitting around talking with Mansion girls and then going up for fun?

Not really, just a different setting.

We're not all slam bam, where's the next one type guys.

And really, a girl's not going to sit and around and BS in a casa if she doesn't want to as well.As usual, a very nice level headed and common sense approach to a certain mindset. You must be a pilot;) When are you coming back to Medellin?

[Orgasmico]

Another thing, make sure you examine a chica real good before you just dive into kissing them and eating their pussy. I was in Cali at dr amor and I was like a half inch from diving into eating her pussy and I saw a couple of little bumps right above her clit, and they didn't look like razor bumps. Needless to say I din't eat her pussy. I just made sure my skin didn't come into contact with the part I wasn't sure about.Thanks for the heads up bro. I don't eat casa putang for various reasons but its good to hear about the experiences of others.

[Hilltopper]

Pretty sure I'm a Bozo.

I've been with casa girls, ones that I have a connection with, gone back to the room for fun, come out for a drink and chit chat a bit, tell my life story LOL, and then back to the room again.

If you want her while I'm talking with her, please let me know, and I'll let ya know if I'm done yet.

Is it really any different than sitting around talking with Mansion girls and then going up for fun?

Not really, just a different setting.

We're not all slam bam, where's the next one type guys.

And really, a girl's not going to sit and around and BS in a casa if she doesn't want to as well.So you're the Bozo who saw that big herpes cold sore on the lip of that one chica and then willingly let that guy who interrupted your convo grab her and hurry her away to a room. My wingman and I were wondering why you had such a coy smirk on your face when that guy scurried her away. Now we know, you sly 'ole fox you.

[Ricker]

So you're the Bozo who saw that big herpes cold sore on the lip of that one chica and then willingly let that guy who interrupted your convo grab her and hurry her away to a room. My wingman and I were wondering why you had such a coy smirk on your face when that guy scurried her away. Now we know, you sly 'ole fox you.Yeah, ya just got to let some go to the next guy! LOL.


As usual, a very nice level headed and common sense approach to a certain mindset. You must be a pilot;) When are you coming back to Medellin?Just my way, not the only way :)

Met maybe the prettiest girl I've seen yet in a Medellin casa my last trip.

She left the job, the thoroughbreds seem to do that LOL.

Luckily I did take my time with her, chatted a bit, made friends with her and have the contact info, so I'll be headed back soon to make a visit.

After the World Cup, Brazil has my attention for right now LOL.

Good luck with your club, hope to see you there!

[SavePros321]

Thanks for the heads up bro. I don't eat casa putang for various reasons but its good to hear about the experiences of others.This is why I don't get guys that go around bragging about bareback sex. I guess they are comfortable playing Russian Roulette with their dick. Probably why they like Casa girls and Streetwalkers so much. Because the minute you present your STD-ridden dick to a Mansion or FB chica word will spread fast and you may as well find another country to monger in, LOL.

[Combo]

This is why I don't get guys that go around bragging about bareback sex. I guess they are comfortable playing Russian Roulette with their dick. Probably why they like Casa girls and Streetwalkers so much. Because the minute you present your STD-ridden dick to a Mansion or FB chica word will spread fast and you may as well find another country to monger in, LOL.Very good point. The girls at the Mansion talk amongst themselves about us just like we do about them.

[ForceSteeler]

Very good point. The girls at the Mansion talk amongst themselves about us just like we do about them.Pretty much all working girls talk about us. You think girls do not gossip? They know who is good in bed, who has a small cock, whos cheapie charlie, etc.

[RaymondVictor]

I just sent this to another member who PM'ed me for info on Colombia. I understand some members do not like to post in the forum and like to remain behind the scenes. Hopefully this info will be useful to the rest of our lurking monger brethren, LOL:

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" (Forum name redacted) , you definitely will want to go to Medellin then. I would not recommend Cali for Colombian newbies.

You will want to stay at a place called Hotel Medellin Plaza:

http://hotelmedellinplaza.com

They have two houses: Hotel Medellin Plaza 1 (HMP1) and HMP 2. Check both houses so that you can get an idea of the different room styles and prices. You also want to book early because they tend to fill up fast.

At this place they invite semi-pro chicas over to hang out around the pool at HMP1 or at the bar the have in the basement called "La Cueva"...I disagree with what you say about the girls are non Pros. Some of the most hard core hookers in Medellin frequent the Mansion. I have been going to the Mansion for the past 3-4 years and some of the same girls that were there when I first stayed at the Mansion are still there. If they are students, they aren't very good students. You will find that the girls hanging out at the pool during the day might be semi-pro. But, at 6:00 PM when the bar opens. The pros come out. As a matter of fact, when the hard core girls see a fresh, young, newbie, they often will befriend her, get her drunk as hell just to get her out of action. I have seen this more than once. There is some hard core competetion going on downstairs. The less than hard core pros hang at Liquid which is connected with the Mansion.

[Jinxx]

This is why I don't get guys that go around bragging about bareback sex. I guess they are comfortable playing Russian Roulette with their dick. Probably why they like Casa girls and Streetwalkers so much. Because the minute you present your STD-ridden dick to a Mansion or FB chica word will spread fast and you may as well find another country to monger in, LOL.Haha! You think mansion and fb chicas aren't going bareback with certain guys? You better start asking around a little bit more. And you think a casa girl doesn't know how to examine a dick if and when she's offered a tip for a BBBJ? Casa girls aren't stupid, most of them won't even do a BBBJ no matter how much a propina you offer them. And forget about kissing them on the lips if you don't have a good connection with them. You usually have to see the same girl multiple times to get her to feel comfortable about kissing on the lip or dfk. And to the guys who bareback ho*kers, you guys have some serious issues. That's just retarded on so many levels. I did notice that very few girls will turn down daty, some will tell you to only lick the clit which is ok with me.

And if you do present your std-ridden dick to a casa girl, you might as well not return to that casa again. You're a true dumbf*ck if you think a casa girl is going to suck a dick with bumps and shit all over it.

[SavePros321]

I disagree with what you say about the girls are non Pros. Some of the most hard core hookers in Medellin frequent the Mansion. I have been going to the Mansion for the past 3-4 years and some of the same girls that were there when I first stayed at the Mansion are still there. If they are students, they aren't very good students. You will find that the girls hanging out at the pool during the day might be semi-pro. But, at 6:00 PM when the bar opens. The pros come out. As a matter of fact, when the hard core girls see a fresh, young, newbie, they often will befriend her, get her drunk as hell just to get her out of action.You posted a quote of my post, so please point out where in my post that I said the word "Non Pros". I've read it over again a few times. Maybe we are using different browsers, lmao?


The less than hard core pros hang at Liquid which is connected with the Mansion.That is news to me (and probably most of us here)! Most of the reports posted have said it is the same girls from the mansion being shuffled over to Liquid. They haven't even gotten their "chicas from out of town" business model in place yet, so how are you able to make that assessment?

I was just in Medallo last month for a week and a half. A handful of chicas said they do not go to Liquid because:

A) They do not want to be seen coming out of the place by anyone they know.

B) They do not work with Colombianos, which happen to be the majority of business patrons at Liquid. A chica told me of a girl that was recently stabbed to death and her body dumped in Las Palmas. The Colombianos in question offered the chica an unusually high number of pesos to lure her there.

I'm sure others have heard the same story. I do not remember the name of the chica that was murdered, but someone here probably does (this is not the same chica who was shot and killed by the wife of the Colombiano she was seeing).

[Vegas Jeff]

I want to mention that there are more police in El Centro than I have ever seen recently. I have had some close encounters where I flicked away joints at the last second causing me to rethink things. The place where we went I spoke with the jefe explaining that I was tired of looking over my shoulder and wanted a place to relax and smoke. I told the jefe that I would give 5 mil ($2. 50) to hang out in a private room or the backroom and smoke a joint. I have hung out in the backroom with the girls ever since. Pretty cool experience with a behind the scenes look at things. It is worth the 5 mil just hanging in the backroom with the girls and smoking with them. Most of them join in and everyone is happy. Every time I leave the boss tells me it was a pleasure and to come back any time. Just keep your shit on the down low and don't make a scene. Be a gentlemen and come up with good ideas where everyone benefits and things will get done.Well I got greedy and finally got caught smoking pot in El Centro just a few days ago. I knew this was going to happen sooner or later. I had sex in a casa earlier that day and forgot a bag with a shirt in it. I ate some food and returned to pick it up. After picking up the shirt and before leaving Centro in a cab I saw a small park out front. I just wanted to smoke a little before hopping in the cab.

After smoking for about 5 minutes I saw a cop approaching from a distance. I flicked the joint away before we caught eyes. I was pretty sure that I was caught though. Any doubt was erased when I saw another cop closing in from the other direction. Here we go.

They asked me a few basic questions about what I was doing and where I was going. Then one officer asked me if I was smoking "cannabis". I told him "no". He then gave me a huge smile and told me that he had been watching me for 5 minutes and then imitated my smoking gestures. I responded by telling him that I didn't want to lie. I told him that I was just picking up my shirt up and wanting to smoke a little before grabbing a cab. We proceeded to talk for a few more sentences and then I asked him if we were all good. He said because I was holding my joint below my knee, when smoking, and then because I threw it away immediately upon being detected there wasn't any problem. I offered him and his partner $5 (10 k) for beer which they refused. I continued to talk with the one officer for 30 minutes afterward. Although I was pretty high, the pressure of the officer helped me to focus. Considering that nothing happened, which it never does, this was a pretty cool experience. Something tells me that I might get caught again. If so, I will post it here whatever happens.

I am not encouraging this behavior. I am just telling my story. If I didn't have any Spanish maybe things would have turned out differently. Who knows? Just telling my story to those that are interested.

[Vegas Jeff]

Haha! You think mansion and fb chicas aren't going bareback with certain guys? You better start asking around a little bit more. And you think a casa girl doesn't know how to examine a dick if and when she's offered a tip for a BBBJ? Casa girls aren't stupid, most of them won't even do a BBBJ no matter how much a propina you offer them. And forget about kissing them on the lips if you don't have a good connection with them. You usually have to see the same girl multiple times to get her to feel comfortable about kissing on the lip or dfk. And to the guys who bareback ho*kers, you guys have some serious issues. That's just retarded on so many levels. I did notice that very few girls will turn down daty, some will tell you to only lick the clit which is ok with me.All of these girls are having alot more bareback sex than you think. This is especially true if the girl doesn't have a large circle of puta friends.

You don't think these girls in casas will give BBBJ? Think again. I have batted 75%, when asking for other guys who wanted this, but didn't feel comfortable asking themselves. I have many witnesses right here on this board. Don't forget that I am asking for someone else which is harder than asking for myself. For myself I bat about 90% and this a breaking point on whether to session or not.

Ahh. The bareback debate. I used to feel like you. Then I watched friends of mine have sex with thousands of girls bareback and catch almost nothing. Nothing that wasn't rectified within few days. The guys who have caught things usually had sex with "streetie" chicks or hard core drug addicts. Where is your evidence of this danger? Maybe things are different in Asia and Africa. Dunno man. I can only speak for what I have seen in Latin America which is a decent amount. If anyone has any serious stories from Latin America feel free to share as I don't know of any. There are obviously risks in all of this stuff. If you can't sleep at night for doing certain things well then don't do them! Just don't criticize the many of us who are engaging in this behavior.

And the bragging. I wish that I could brag but I can't. This is because it is all about the connection, the feeling, and the experience. I directed a guy that I met in Medellin to the map recently. He had been in Medellin for a month and had not gotten laid. I ran into him at Energy, coincidentally, a week later as he was finishing his session. He shook my hand like the janitor in Coming to America shook Eddie Murphy's hand. It was as if he had found a key into a different dimension. He had been to a few other places, the previous few days, and was returning to The States the next day. He might have received a covered BJ for all I know. He could never imagine that I would be envious of him but I am. Those days are over me. Even after my best experiences I can't reach that level as I am not innocent any longer. I remember those days in the beginning well though.

And speaking of innocent experiences. I can't wait to be with my Colombian girlfriend in Cancun in just a few days. We shall see if they let her in? Some guys have had problems getting Colombian women into Cancun. I will post either way.

[Jinxx]

Well I got greedy and finally got caught smoking pot in El Centro just a few days ago. I knew this was going to happen sooner or later. I had sex in a casa earlier that day and forgot a bag with a shirt in it. I ate some food and returned to pick it up. After picking up the shirt and before leaving Centro in a cab I saw a small park out front. I just wanted to smoke a little before hopping in the cab.

After smoking for about 5 minutes I saw a cop approaching from a distance. I flicked the joint away before we caught eyes. I was pretty sure that I was caught though. Any doubt was erased when I saw another cop closing in from the other direction. Here we go.

They asked me a few basic questions about what I was doing and where I was going. Then one officer asked me if I was smoking "cannabis". I told him "no". He then gave me a huge smile and told me that he had been watching me for 5 minutes and then imitated my smoking gestures. I responded by telling him that I didn't want to lie. I told him that I was just picking up my shirt up and wanting to smoke a little before grabbing a cab. We proceeded to talk for a few more sentences and then I asked him if we were all good. He said because I was holding my joint below my knee, when smoking, and then because I threw it away immediately upon being detected there wasn't any problem. I offered him and his partner $5 (10 k) for beer which they refused. I continued to talk with the one officer for 30 minutes afterward. Although I was pretty high, the pressure of the officer helped me to focus. Considering that nothing happened, which it never does, this was a pretty cool experience. Something tells me that I might get caught again. If so, I will post it here whatever happens.

I am not encouraging this behavior. I am just telling my story. If I didn't have any Spanish maybe things would have turned out differently. Who knows? Just telling my story to those that are interested.Just go to parque periodista.

[Jinxx]

All of these girls are having alot more bareback sex than you think. This is especially true if the girl doesn't have a large circle of puta friends.

You don't think these girls in casas will give BBBJ? Think again. I have batted 75%, when asking for other guys who wanted this, but didn't feel comfortable asking themselves. I have many witnesses right here on this board. Don't forget that I am asking for someone else which is harder than asking for myself. For myself I bat about 90% and this a breaking point on whether to session or not.

Ahh. The bareback debate. I used to feel like you. Then I watched friends of mine have sex with thousands of girls bareback and catch almost nothing. Nothing that wasn't rectified within few days. The guys who have caught things usually had sex with "streetie" chicks or hard core drug addicts. Where is your evidence of this danger? Maybe things are different in Asia and Africa. Dunno man. I can only speak for what I have seen in Latin America which is a decent amount. If anyone has any serious stories from Latin America feel free to share as I don't know of any. There are obviously risks in all of this stuff. If you can't sleep at night for doing certain things well then don't do them! Just don't criticize the many of us who are engaging in this behavior..I got BBBJ a few times in the casas, then I went to new life and I got a chick who said she never does BBBJ at all no matter the propina. Then I went to new life again and I got another chick who said she'd do it if I don't precum in her mouth. I tried to explain to her that every guy precums a little bit when he gets turned on. I could've easily just told her OK I promise I won't precum but I just settled for the CBJ. Then after that I stopped requesting BBBJ just because I didn't want to have to deal with the hassle. Not to mention the time I saw a casa girl with an obvious cold sore on her lip. I thought about complaining to management, that they shouldn't allow a girl to come to work who has some shit like that.

And about BBFS. I don't believe that you guys who bareback putas aren't spreading std's. It's not like someone's going to admit to it. I've freaking caught gonorrhea 3 times and that was from regular chicks, not even putas. There's no way in hell I'm going to stick my bare cock in a chick who fucks like 30 different guys a week. I try to not even bareback regular chicks.

[SavePros321]

And about BBFS. I don't believe that you guys who bareback putas aren't spreading std's. It's not like someone's going to admit to it. I've freakin caught ghondorrea 3 times and that was from regular chicks, not even putas. There's no way in hell I'm going to stick my bare cock in a chick who fucks like 30 different guys a week. I try to not even bareback regular chicks.Yep, "Carriers" usually have nothing to worry about. They already have a "dirty dick". What more do they have to lose?



Ahh. The bareback debate. I used to feel like you. Then I watched friends of mine have sex with thousands of girls bareback and catch almost nothing. Nothing that wasn't rectified within few days. The guys who have caught things usually had sex with "streetie" chicks or hard core drug addicts. Where is your evidence of this danger? Maybe things are different in Asia and Africa. Dunno man. I can only speak for what I have seen in Latin America which is a decent amount. If anyone has any serious stories from Latin America feel free to share as I don't know of any. There are obviously risks in all of this stuff. If you can't sleep at night for doing certain things well then don't do them! Just don't criticize the many of us who are engaging in this behavior.
"Almost nothing" isn't the same as "nothing", LOL. It seems he did catch "something" that was able to be "rectified" after a few days.

And what about the semi or non pro who's husband, novio, (or client) bangs "streetie" or "hardcore drug addicts" in her absence? All it takes is one Carrier to get the ball rolling (a*k*a "the gift that keeps on giving").

You guys can bareback as many chicas as you want. Just remember (as demonstrated in Jeff's recent weed smoking bust) it will eventually catch up with you. The question is whether you will care or not.

[The Tall Man]

With Colombia beating the holy shit out of the Jap's 4-1 damn I wish I could be in Medellin right now and enjoying the festivities (and the casa girls too).

You lucky guys!

The Tall Man.

[Av8r]

With Colombia beating the holy shit out of the Jap's 4-1 damn I wish I could be in Medellin right now and enjoying the festivities (and the casa girls too).

You lucky guys!

The Tall Man.Yes, it's great to see so many people in such a great mood.

[Fun Luvr]

And about BBFS. I don't believe that you guys who bareback putas aren't spreading std's. It's not like someone's going to admit to it. I've freakin caught ghondorrea 3 times and that was from regular chicks, not even putas. There's no way in hell I'm going to stick my bare cock in a chick who fucks like 30 different guys a week. I try to not even bareback regular chicks.You try? I don't understand. Unless the condom breaks, you either do or your don't!

[Av8r]

You try? I don't understand. Unless the condom breaks, you either do or your don't!Mistaken post by me

[Jinxx]

You try? I don't understand. Unless the condom breaks, you either do or your don't!Yea I TRY, as in using a condom is my primary objective when banging a regular girl, but sometimes I get caught up in the moment, usually when I don't have a condom handy or if alcohol is involved. The girl I'm dating now refuses to use condoms, so did my last girlfriend.

regular chicks: I use condom 8 out of ten times

putas: I use condoms 10 out of 10 times


How is that hard for you to understand? You must not get much free pussy.

[Legal Tender]

Yea I TRY, as in using a condom is my primary objective when banging a regular girl, but sometimes I get caught up in the moment, usually when I don't have a condom handy or if alcohol is involved. The girl I'm dating now refuses to use condoms, so did my last girlfriend.

regular chicks: I use condom 8 out of ten times

putas: I use condoms 10 out of 10 times


How is that hard for you to understand? You must not get much free pussy.It's not that complicated. In every relationship that continues, sex without a condom is going to happen. Life is not risk free. But, let's not be under the illusion that there is "free pussy. " Everyone has a need to be met, and with rare exception these novias have something missing in their lives that can be solved with dinero.

Only good energy!

[Jinxx]

But, let's not be under the illusion that there is "free pussy. " Everyone has a need to be met, and with rare exception these novias have something missing in their lives that can be solved with dinero.

Only good energy!Speak for yourself bro. I get free pussy all the time, many times from chicks who make more money than me and drive nicer cars than I drive.

[BHX1138]

I just got to Medellin today, and I live in San Diego and go to Hong Kong all the time. Is there anything like this in Medellin. If not what places would you recommend for me to go. I have heard Fases II, the mansion, and liquid. What do you all prefer.

Thanks

[BrasilSoccer0]

This is not international free sex guide stud.

I think you're in the wrong board. LOL.


Speak for yourself bro. I get free pussy all the time, many times from chicks who make more money than me and drive nicer cars than I drive.

[Legal Tender]

Speak for yourself bro. I get free pussy all the time, many times from chicks who make more money than me and drive nicer cars than I drive.Amigo, there is no such free sex. Never was, never will be. It's biological. Women can only have a very finite number of children in order to further their gene pool. Men, can father thousands of off spring. Females want security and protection. Some get it by selling the pleasures they provide by the hour, others want a life time commitment, and there are all kinds of relationships between the two extremes. They all want or expect something that is perceived to contribute to security and protection. Sex is not free.

Occasionally, we have this type of discussion and usually it is ignited by someone who feels it is necessary to self proclaim that because of some kind of irrefutable truth that women just can't resist them. Fragile egos. I've run across of my fair share of "free sex" in my lifetime of womanizing, but unfortunately the universal truth always comes through: they all want something.

Seriously, amigo, only good energy.

[Jinxx]

Amigo, there is no such free sex. Never was, never will be. It's biological. Women can only have a very finite number of children in order to further their gene pool. Men, can father thousands of off spring. Females want security and protection. Some get it by selling the pleasures they provide by the hour, others want a life time commitment, and there are all kinds of relationships between the two extremes. They all want or expect something that is perceived to contribute to security and protection. Sex is not free.

Occasionally, we have this type of discussion and usually it is ignited by someone who feels it is necessary to self proclaim that because of some kind of irrefutable truth that women just can't resist them. Fragile egos. I've run across of my fair share of "free sex" in my lifetime of womanizing, but unfortunately the universal truth always comes through: they all want something.

Seriously, amigo, only good energy.No dude. Guys like you just come up with this theory to try to justify the fact that you have to pay for sex. YOU are the one with the fragile ego.

If I bump into a chick at my local neighborhood bar who knows I have a girlfriend and knows she makes more money than me, and she still comes home with me and I bang her brains out. That's free pussy.

If I'm staying at the casa kiwi backpacker hostel and a 20 year old australian chick goes bar hopping with me through parque lleras, and not only does she pay for her own drinks but she buys some of my drinks when I run out of cash. Then we spend the next two days having ruthless kangaroo crocodile dundee sex before she continues on to her next backpacker hostel destination knowing she'll never see me again. That's free pussy.

I could give you plenty more examples, but I'm sure you get the idea. Did these women want something from me? Sure they did, they wanted a rock hard fossilized BONE. That's what they wanted and that's exactly what they got. Nothing more, nothing less.

Yea your theory that free pussy doesn't exist may apply to YOUR situation, but it does NOT apply to everyone.

[Jinxx]

This is not international free sex guide stud.

I think you're in the wrong board. LOL.You're absolutely right. I just had to school this legal tendernuts guy real quick. And if you look at my posts I was just using the term "free pussy" to mean bitches I banged who aren't putas. I wasn't trying to get into some lame ass debate of whether "free pussy" exists or not. Tendernuts is the one who started that irrelevant crap.

[TellAll]

Amigo, there is no such free sex. Never was, never will be. It's biological. Women can only have a very finite number of children in order to further their gene pool. Men, can father thousands of off spring. Females want security and protection. Some get it by selling the pleasures they provide by the hour, others want a life time commitment, and there are all kinds of relationships between the two extremes. They all want or expect something that is perceived to contribute to security and protection. Sex is not free.

Occasionally, we have this type of discussion and usually it is ignited by someone who feels it is necessary to self proclaim that because of some kind of irrefutable truth that women just can't resist them. Fragile egos. I've run across of my fair share of "free sex" in my lifetime of womanizing, but unfortunately the universal truth always comes through: they all want something.

Seriously, amigo, only good energy.100% agree. There is always a price to pay. Women always have a plan. Just ask all the guys in the 50% club.

You have free sex with a woman in the west, don't use protection bcuz you know her and it's safe or heat of the moment. A few month later you recieve a demand letter to play "who my baby daddy"? (Paternity Test) Now she will be receiving a tax free income subsidy for the next 18 plus years. Oh, but that was free pussy because you're so pretty. LOL.

At least now you know why her car is nicer than yours. Someone else is paying for it. LOL.

I'd rather pay up front and then they or I leave. Whichever comes first.

That's why I'm in Bankok now. Just waiting out the rain.

Already planning my next trip to Medellin.

[Ricker]

we spend the next two days having ruthless kangaroo crocodile dundee sex before she continues on to her next backpacker hostel destination knowing she'll never see me again. That's free pussy.

Seriously though, I got to try that kangaroo crocodile dundee style sex LOL.

I do definitely get your point though Jinxx.

Makes sense too.

The two ships passing thru type relationship.

Slam bam, crocodile dundee, and Hasta nunca! LOL.

It's the so-called free pussy with a co-worker or friend or girlfriend or something like that with longer term free pussy, that usually ends up costing money and drama LOL.

Good luck in the adventure!

[SavePros321]

Amigo, there is no such free sex. Never was, never will be. It's biological. Women can only have a very finite number of children in order to further their gene pool. Men, can father thousands of off spring. Females want security and protection. Some get it by selling the pleasures they provide by the hour, others want a life time commitment, and there are all kinds of relationships between the two extremes. They all want or expect something that is perceived to contribute to security and protection.Just a different perspective:

Back in my Navy days the women I had sex with wanted nothing more than a little bed warming while their husbands were away on deployment. They already had (his) money, (his) house, (his) car, and (his) kids taken care of. Only thing I spent was time, gas, and energy (thrust exertion, LOL).

Some did come with an emotional price: there were a few that would get clingy and I would have to remind them that they were married.

But I would honestly say that after around 26-27 yrs old the free pussy ho train started coming to an end.

[TellAll]

Just a different perspective:

Back in my Navy days the women I had sex with wanted nothing more than a little bed warming while their husbands were away on deployment. They already had (his) money, (his) house, (his) car, and (his) kids taken care of. Only thing I spent was time, gas, and energy (thrust exertion, LOL).

Some did come with an emotional price: there were a few that would get clingy and I would have to remind them that they were married.

But I would honestly say that after around 26-27 yrs old the free pussy ho train started coming to an end.Yes those ladies had dollar man so all they needed was lover man. You were ok until they started looking at you as a possible upgrade. LOL.

I guess you could say I get offered freebies now also. I am mid 50's and when at home women in my age group ask me to come by so they can cook for me and of course have sex. Shit who wants it now? Fifty something year old Tang.

I find it ironic that women who wouldn't give me the time of day in thier 20's or 30's are now scratching on my door like hungry cats.

I'll pass.

[SeizeTheDay]

Speak for yourself bro. I get free pussy all the time, many times from chicks who make more money than me and drive nicer cars than I drive.It is not "free pussy" if you caught Gonorrhea three times from it.

[SeizeTheDay]

Yes those ladies had dollar man so all they needed was lover man. You were ok until they started looking at you as a possible upgrade. LOL.

I guess you could say I get offered freebies now also. I am mid 50's and when at home women in my age group ask me to come by so they can cook for me and of course have sex. Shit who wants it now? Fifty something year old Tang.

I find it ironic that women who wouldn't give me the time of day in thier 20's or 30's are now scratching on my door like hungry cats.

I'll pass.Good for you TellAll. Juice box today Litter box tomorrow.

[SavePros321]

I find it ironic that women who wouldn't give me the time of day in thier 20's or 30's are now scratching on my door like hungry cats.

I'll pass.Father Time is an unforgiving son of a be! Tch!

I see it all the time with online dating. All of those women who stayed "turnt up" during their 20's and early 30's are now coming to realize that all that stuff about their biological clock wasn't just a fairytale. It's hilarious when I see their profiles stating they are "looking for someone to marry".

I'm in my early 30's. Most of the chicks in my age range are overweight, twice (or thrice) divorced with 1 or more kids. The really hot ones are still in party mode until at least 45 or until a sucker comes along and puts a ring on her finger.

The quality of the women I can pay to have sex with (in the US and overseas) compared to the time spent trying to bed a regular AW (American Woman), there is no comparison.

[ForceSteeler]

Father Time is an unforgiving son of a be! Tch!

I see it all the time with online dating. All of those women who stayed "turnt up" during their 20's and early 30's are now coming to realize that all that stuff about their biological clock wasn't just a fairytale. It's hilarious when I see their profiles stating they are "looking for someone to marry".

I'm in my early 30's. Most of the chicks in my age range are overweight, twice (or thrice) divorced with 1 or more kids. The really hot ones are still in party mode until at least 45 or until a sucker comes along and puts a ring on her finger.

The quality of the women I can pay to have sex with (in the US and overseas) compared to the time spent trying to bed a regular AW (American Woman), there is no comparison.Women are like Cars. They lose value as they age. That's why I can never understand why guys put women on pedestals and are scared of rejections. Theres always going to be a new fly 18 Year old girl coming up on the scene.

Like Nino Brown said "Cancel that ***** I will buy another one" .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV6xgXXd51E

[Aussie Greg]

Another name change!!
Hotel Medellin Mansion to.
Hotel Casa Blanca to.
Hotel Medellin Plaza and now, wait for it!

"Hotel M".

Nice isn't it!
Aussie Greg.

As far as comments about hard core working girls! I guess there's none at Fossy Dos, La Isla, San Diego and El Central! And the facebook girls who will drug you at a glance !!!

You all have a nice day.

[SavePros321]

Like Nino Brown said "Cancel that ***** I will buy another one" .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV6xgXXd51ENew Jack City, LOL! That one is a classic! Never gets old no matter how many times you watch it.

[Hawk452]

First trip to Medellin, heard good things. I have looked around asked a few people and gotten several different answers or offers to give ride, but how much is a taxi from the airport to Medellin? And anything special going on the 11th-21st? I ask this because I have traveled several places and have seen local holiday that kill your time there, this happened to me my last trip to SDQ and it sucks.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Combo]

Amigo, there is no such free sex. Never was, never will be. It's biological. Women can only have a very finite number of children in order to further their gene pool. Men, can father thousands of off spring. Females want security and protection. Some get it by selling the pleasures they provide by the hour, others want a life time commitment, and there are all kinds of relationships between the two extremes. They all want or expect something that is perceived to contribute to security and protection. Sex is not free.

Occasionally, we have this type of discussion and usually it is ignited by someone who feels it is necessary to self proclaim that because of some kind of irrefutable truth that women just can't resist them. Fragile egos. I've run across of my fair share of "free sex" in my lifetime of womanizing, but unfortunately the universal truth always comes through: they all want something.

Seriously, amigo, only good energy.Absolutely not true. When I was (much) younger, I got tons of free sex. And I'm sure many others on here did the same. One night stands where youdon't even know or remember the chick's name. I'm also sure I could fuck plenty of chicks my own age for free right now. But I don't want to fuck 50 yo women.

I've grown to like paying for sex. I can pick who I want and I don't need to be stinking drunk and stay out til 5 am (not that I even could anymore).

[Lefeu]

Absolutely not true. When I was (much) younger, I got tons of free sex. And I'm sure many others on here did the same. One night stands where youdon't even know or remember the chick's name. I'm also sure I could fuck plenty of chicks my own age for free right now. But I don't want to fuck 50 yo women.

I've grown to like paying for sex. I can pick who I want and I don't need to be stinking drunk and stay out til 5 am (not that I even could anymore).Actually, I agree with LegalTender when you consider the proper context. Getting free sex at a young age, or any other age, does not negate what LT said. In general, it's good to be aware of that truism.

[Legal Tender]

Absolutely not true. When I was (much) younger, I got tons of free sex. And I'm sure many others on here did the same. One night stands where youdon't even know or remember the chick's name. I'm also sure I could fuck plenty of chicks my own age for free right now. But I don't want to fuck 50 yo women.

I've grown to like paying for sex. I can pick who I want and I don't need to be stinking drunk and stay out til 5 am (not that I even could anymore).He.

Combo, you hit the nail on the head. It's been so fuc*king long that I was "much" younger and getting my fair share of free sex, I've forgotten about it. Now that you mentioned the privilege of youth, I recall many pleasant encounters of my youth. I, too, like to contribute to the financial needs of several girls in Medellin. I've grown to like it because a little financial help improves their lives substantially. We all have needs that we can't meet by ourselves. Seems simple.

Only good energy.

[Orgasmico]

When I was (much) younger, I got tons of free sex. And I'm sure many others on here did the same. One night stands where youdon't even know or remember the chick's name. I am surprised at the number of mongers I see now in their 20's and early 30's. Perhaps things have changed because I was swimming in young putang back then LOL.

[Jinxx]

I'm I'm my mid 30's and I still have no problem banging young hotties for free, but that doesn't stop me from banging putas. I've been banging putas since my early 20's. Why? Because I love that shit! Meeting a chick for the first time, saying Hi I'm jinxx, handing her a few bucks, then five minutes later my cock's in her mouth. That's the coolest thing in the world.

I don't feel guilty or feel the need to come up with some biological theory of why I pay for sex. I do it because I'm a horny bastard. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[TellAll]

I'm I'm my mid 30's and I still have no problem banging young hotties for free, but that doesn't stop me from banging putas. I've been banging putas since my early 20's. Why? Because I love that shit! Meeting a chick for the first time, saying Hi I'm jinxx, handing her a few bucks, then five minutes later my cock's in her mouth. That's the coolest thing in the world.

I don't feel guilty or feel the need to come up with some biological theory of why I pay for sex. I do it because I'm a horny bastard. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.I commend you because if I had discovered places like Thailand and South America in my 20's, I never would have amounted to shit. I would have been to busy chasing Pussy around the world. I would have found it difficult to have normal relationships like I do now. Luckily I didn't get jaded until later in life. Now I don't want a relationship where I can't give them money and they won't go away.

[C Jack Sparrow]

Dr. Harford / Tom Cruise says this about "security and protection" to his spouse / Nicole Kidman and she replies with a story about her falling for a young officer, that she was so attracted to that young man that, if he had asked, she would have left Dr. Harford / tom Cruise and their daughter, just like that!

Females, given the opportunity, tend to act equally selfish as men. It's more about lack of opportunities. Females today choose younger partners in the 1st world, they have their own sex-paradises in Latinamerica, Africa, The Carribean, South East Asia. Maybe even in Europe and Northamerica.

Females today given the opportunity, even in Colombia, act very selfish. As a result of circumstances. My friend prefers to have causual sex, or getting paid. She doesn't want a relationship: She loses her income as prepago and have to do all the domestic stuff, for free, while he (usually FS other girls, maybe her friends).

So the girls with good looks make money and get a university degree and eventually becomes a professional woman.

Many of my female friends in Medellin are like that. Today a friend from the university told me a extranjero offered her 800 mil for a night at his 5 star hotel. Minimum salary is 616 mil / month.

Traditional values and lifestyle seems to be a very bad deal for many of us, both buyers and sellers of sex services.

As a young guy I remember me being shy / unwilling to enter serious relationships, because of the obvious consequenses: you get bills to pay- for life! Every month until you are dead!

My friend in Holland is proud of his new SUV. But he spends more on that cars decreasing value a year that I spend on prepagos in Medellin 4-5 months a year and I have a lot of fun doing so, while he lives the illusion of being rich and me poor (we have the exact same income).

Traditional work, lifestyle, values are simply to expensive if one considers effort / reward.


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Combo, you hit the nail on the head. It's been so fuc*king long that I was "much" younger and getting my fair share of free sex, I've forgotten about it. Now that you mentioned the privilege of youth, I recall many pleasant encounters of my youth. I, too, like to contribute to the financial needs of several girls in Medellin. I've grown to like it because a little financial help improves their lives substantially. We all have needs that we can't meet by ourselves. Seems simple.

Only good energy.

[C Jack Sparrow]

This guy put it very simply and it's the coolest commentary I've read here since I entered the Prepago world.


I'm I'm my mid 30's and I still have no problem banging young hotties for free, but that doesn't stop me from banging putas. I've been banging putas since my early 20's. Why? Because I love that shit! Meeting a chick for the first time, saying Hi I'm jinxx, handing her a few bucks, then five minutes later my cock's in her mouth. That's the coolest thing in the world.

I don't feel guilty or feel the need to come up with some biological theory of why I pay for sex. I do it because I'm a horny bastard. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[Av8r]

Fastest changing club in South America.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3546-LIQUID-STRIP-(formerly-Liquid-Lounge).

[Socker]

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Traditional values and lifestyle seems to be a very bad deal for many of us, both buyers and sellers of sex services.

His whole post was special in that there were no bad guys or gals in the hobby, just the way it is, and this qoute is just PLAIN brilliant.

Makes me want to give college a try.

I won't, too busy.

[Orgasmico]

The quality of the women I can pay to have sex with (in the US and overseas) compared to the time spent trying to bed a regular AW (American Woman), there is no comparison.The USA truly is becoming a sex prison for men. It is amazing watching the desperate men in the USA beat each other up (both figuratively and literally) all to please some fat, unfeminine, disgusting woman.

Can't buy a prostitute, it is against the law except in a few counties in Nevada. Strip clubs in some places will not allow the women to get naked. There really is no point of living your life in the USA if you can afford to get out.

[Mr Enternational]

Absolutely not true. When I was (much) younger, I got tons of free sex. And I'm sure many others on here did the same. One night stands where youdon't even know or remember the chick's name. I'm also sure I could fuck plenty of chicks my own age for free right now. But I don't want to fuck 50 yo women.

I've grown to like paying for sex. I can pick who I want and I don't need to be stinking drunk and stay out til 5 am (not that I even could anymore).And look at all the married chicks or chicks who were already in relationships who I fucked. They already had their security, but they also wanted some dick on the side. So yes, free pussy does exist. That is just something that guys who are not getting free pussy made up as an excuse.

[Member #4394]

The whole arguments about free sex on the board fail to consider opportunity cost. Not a big deal though, since this is not a board of economics or sociology.


So yes, free pussy does exist. That is just something that guys who are not getting free pussy made up as an excuse.

[Hasideas Tao]

They talk, but I'm pretty sure their is no web site The Colombian Guide to Fucking Gringos for Money.

The other thing about these working girls is that they allllllllllllllllllll lie worse than fishermen. So who cares really? The only motives that immediately come to mind are cock blocking if they are territorial about their clients and if some guy is repulsive or seriously disrespectful.

I wonder what is our ratio of fish stories to truth in blogs like this. One will never know.


Very good point. The girls at the Mansion talk amongst themselves about us just like we do about them.

[Hasideas Tao]

Has anyone taken a tour from this older muscular gentleman? Drives a red car. I know he shows a lot of mansion guys around the night scene. Apparently he has contact with fresher less jaded bario girls. But I have not really ever heard any reviews. Not sure if this is outside of my comfort zone but if I decide to call this guy I'll be sure to report back.

[BrasilSoccer0]

Taxi from airport shouldn't cost more than 60 k cop. Also you can take a bus for around 8 k cop it ends at hotel Nutibara.

Nothing special about the dates you mentioned.


First trip to Medellin, heard good things. I have looked around asked a few people and gotten several different answers or offers to give ride, but how much is a taxi from the airport to Medellin? And anything special going on the 11th-21st? I ask this because I have traveled several places and have seen local holiday that kill your time there, this happened to me my last trip to SDQ and it sucks.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Manizales911]

There really is no point of living your life in the USA if you can afford to get out.I can only partially agree with you. I have legal residency here in Colombia but if it were not for being able to travel regularly to the DR and back to the USA I would probably have to choose to live in the USA, I don't think that I could live here full time. There are too many things that a person takes for granted while living in the USA That you will miss if living full time in a third world country. Don't get me wrong, I love it here and that's why I made the move but after about a month I need a change of scenery, maybe that will change with time as I haven't been here long.

[Orgasmico]

I can only partially agree with you. I have legal residency here in Colombia but if it were not for being able to travel regularly to the DR and back to the USA I would probably have to choose to live in the USA, I don't think that I could live here full time. There are too many things that a person takes for granted while living in the USA That you will miss if living full time in a third world country. Don't get me wrong, I love it here and that's why I made the move but after about a month I need a change of scenery, maybe that will change with time as I haven't been here long.What are the things you feel you need to come back for? What's in the DR and USA?

[Manizales911]

What are the things you feel you need to come back for? What's in the DR and USA?To be clear, I go to the DR strictly for mongering, other than that it is on the same level as Colombia.

What does the USA have to offer?

Reliable infrastructure and proper lines of communication to deal with problems for instance, your cable service has an issue, good luck trying to get someone to accurately tell you when they will come and fix it. I hear people complain about waiting 4 hours in the USA for the cable guy to show up, hahaha, try waiting for a week.

Not waiting for an hour in line at a bank to pay utility bills I pay all my bills online, impossible in Colombia.

Online banking, never having to go to the bank in person, trying to get ANYTHING accomplished at a bank in Colombia requires a full day's commitment of going in person.

Quality electronics, not paying top dollar for imported goods such as quality electronics, if you can get them at all, they are mostly "seconds" at first quality prices. And forget about warranties, that's a joke.

Better food overall. Colombia has plenty of fresh produce at low prices but if you want quality beef or seafood you will pay through the ass for it and you better know how and where to get it. I am learning how to age my own beef because generally Colombian beef is very lean and hence well, just sucks.

Enforced traffic laws, when it comes to driving (I don't) or riding in a car or taxi or bus or god forbid on a moto it is the wild, wild, west in Colombia. Stop signs and traffic lights are a mere suggestion. I can't count how many dead bodies I've seen.

Overall safety in regards to petty theft, I feel comfortable 99% of the time but there are certain rules that you must play by here in Colombia and sooner or later every body gets robbed, locals included, I don't know anybody here that HASN't been robbed at least once.

Ease of renting long term property. In Colombia you are required to have two fiadors or guarantors and even then if you are a foreigner they usually won't rent to you. I found a place but my point is that it is much more difficult for us gringos.

Honest contractors,99% of Colombian contractors will pork you in the butt if you don't know how to deal with them.

Quality workmanship, combine that with what I wrote above and you better know what you are doing or have been blessed with a good honest contractor.

Why live in Colombia then?

The women, duh.

The people in general are much more kind, considerate and friendly.

Lack of stress, clocks are not important, nobody gets wigged out if you are an hour late which is SOP here. This is number one for me, such a laid back lifestyle.

Cost of living (if you live outside the big cities otherwise it's not any cheaper).

The women, duh.

The weather. Being near the equator you can literally choose your climate as there are no seasons to speak of, the temperature is pretty much the same year round, it's all about elevation, smart people shop for real estate using an altimeter.

Not having the need for a car. The one infrastructure component that they have the USA Beat is buses and taxi system.

Cheap real estate, again outside the big cities.

Did I mention the women?

[Orgasmico]

The people in general are much more kind, considerate and friendly.

Lack of stress, clocks are not important, nobody gets wigged out if you are an hour late which is SOP here. This is number one for me, such a laid back lifestyle.

Cost of living (if you live outside the big cities otherwise it's not any cheaper).

The women, duh.

The weather. Being near the equator you can literally choose your climate as there are no seasons to speak of, the temperature is pretty much the same year round, it's all about elevation, smart people shop for real estate using an altimeter.

Not having the need for a car. The one infrastructure component that they have the USA Beat is buses and taxi system.

Cheap real estate, again outside the big cities.

Did I mention the women?How long do you stay in Colombia before you want to leave? Why the DR as opposed to some other destination - another Colombian city outside of MDE, or Cuba, Rio, Panama, Costa Rica, El Salvador, etc. ?

[Manizales911]

How long do you stay in Colombia before you want to leave? Why the DR as opposed to some other destination - another Colombian city outside of MDE, or Cuba, Rio, Panama, Costa Rica, El Salvador, etc. ?The longest I've stayed was ten weeks but right now I am in and out of Colombia every three weeks, mostly because I have to go to the USA To finish up on some business and real estate there. I think as time goes by I will miss the USA Less and less but I will have a place to crash in the USA For the foreseeable future.

If it were not for the hot weather I probably would have tried living in the DR, I just got back from there on Wednesday and it was hot as fuck, I can only handle it for 5-7 days at a time. I have been going to the DR on a very regular basis for ten years, I have a lot of friends there both with and without benefits. I don't know of any place in the western hemisphere that can compete with the DR for price, safety, ease of travel and great sex from the girls.

Cuba not easy to travel to, Rio expensive and far, Panama expensive girls and they're mostly Colombians and Dominicans, Costa Rica mostly Colombians and Dominicans and just plain sucks, El Salvador ugly girls and some safety concerns. Haiti would be on my radar big time if I spoke the language but I don't,it has huge potential despite it's problems.

I don't live in Medellin, I live in a small city outside of Manizales, not a big fan of the big cities.

[Orgasmico]

I don't live in Medellin, I live in a small city outside of Manizales, not a big fan of the big cities.How is the mongering in that area compared to cities like MDE?

Why do you dislike Costa Rica so much?

[ForceSteeler]

How is the mongering in that area compared to cities like MDE?

Why do you dislike Costa Rica so much?Most dislike Costa Rica because most of the girls you run into are jaded and its all business. And most of the hot ones are Colombians, So why pay $100 when you can get the same girl in MDE for far less and is more GFE Friendly.

But we will see how long that last, most Americans (Gringo's) Think Colombia is still very dangerous due to its history of violence especially with Drug Lords like Pablo Escobar. Less American's = More GFE Experience.

I remember Expats use to tell me about Brazil and DR, back in the 90's and early 2000's it was so much better when few american's went there, now try getting a GFE in the DR, your out of luck, its becoming all business.

[Manizales911]

How is the mongering in that area compared to cities like MDE?

Why do you dislike Costa Rica so much?Mongering as one would know it in a place like Medellin is almost non existent here, there is one bar with girls to satisfy the locals but they aren't the cream of the crop, those girls for the most part ship out of town to make bigger money. Social media and dating sites are the way to meet girls outside the big cities.

I just don't like anything about Costa Rica, and the girls are just too business like, I like to hang out and party with a girl before and after the deed. Mongering for me is a social interaction in addition to sex. I know that's not for everyone but for me it is.

[Artisttyp]

I can only partially agree with you. I have legal residency here in Colombia but if it were not for being able to travel regularly to the DR and back to the USA I would probably have to choose to live in the USA, I don't think that I could live here full time. There are too many things that a person takes for granted while living in the USA That you will miss if living full time in a third world country. Don't get me wrong, I love it here and that's why I made the move but after about a month I need a change of scenery, maybe that will change with time as I haven't been here long.Excellent Posts by Manizales911.

When you sit down and do the research you will realize that more things come into play when moving abroad than you would think. Unless you are willing to live in a suitcase and leave the country every few months for a visa run you must go through the legalized visa process and it ain't pretty. Would you really want to disclose your financial information to a colombian bank or a bank in the DR? How would you get your medicines not available in your host country ? I looked that up for Peru and I would have had to go to the national department of health and then the customs broker to get approval. There are so many other things to consider it would be tedious to list them all.

I think it makes sense for guys to keep a US address (ie. credit rating). It is useful for many reasons. Otherwise I'd like to find somewhere that I'd like to spend 6 months out of the year but I haven't found it yet. If I did I could probably save a lot of my mongering budget by getting a discount on a long term rental.


There is nothing wrong with Amercia. It's got great potential but people and govt like to F it up. It's mainly the Govt these days but that's a different subject. Give me the USA of the 70's and 80's and I'd be a patriot once again.


Manizales911- What do you do to keep occupied in Manizales? I would go nuts in a little town after a few days.

[Manizales911]

Excellent Posts by Manizales911.

When you sit down and do the research you will realize that more things come into play when moving abroad than you would think. Unless you are willing to live in a suitcase and leave the country every few months for a visa run you must go through the legalized visa process and it ain't pretty. Would you really want to disclose your financial information to a colombian bank or a bank in the DR? How would you get your medicines not available in your host country ? I looked that up for Peru and I would have had to go to the national department of health and then the customs broker to get approval. There are so many other things to consider it would be tedious to list them all.

I think it makes sense for guys to keep a US address (ie. credit rating). It is useful for many reasons. Otherwise I'd like to find somewhere that I'd like to spend 6 months out of the year but I haven't found it yet. If I did I could probably save a lot of my mongering budget by getting a discount on a long term rental.


There is nothing wrong with Amercia. It's got great potential but people and govt like to F it up. It's mainly the Govt these days but that's a different subject. Give me the USA of the 70's and 80's and I'd be a patriot once again.


Manizales911- What do you do to keep occupied in Manizales? I would go nuts in a little town after a few days.The visa issue for me was the least of my problem as I automatically qualify for a residency visa as I am the father of a Colombian national.

No need to do business with a Colombian bank if you don't want to other than paying certain bills, and actually without a visa you will have a tough time opening an account so no need to bother, just keep your money in a USA Bank and withdraw as needed.

If you have a visa you can and must obtain health insurance here and it is dirt cheap, then you can get whatever prescriptions you need. I've never heard of anyone not being able to get a particular medicine here. If you are living here part time six months a year on a tourist stamp 60 or 90 days at a time just bring the meds with you from the USA Remember that you can get most meds without a prescription here, only narcotics require a prescription. I am fortunate in that I have my health for now, I'm about to turn 57 and am not on any meds at all.

In my opinion the USA is still the greatest country in the world and has less problems than any country but like I said, that's my opinion.

I would love to be able to eliminate my physical USA Residence because of the cost, I am paying property tax and insurance on a place that I don't spend a hell of a lot of time at but I'm not quite ready for that yet. I will always keep my bank and investment accounts in the USA And a USA Address. There are companies that will give you an address and either forward all your mail to Colombia on a monthly or bi monthly basis or they will scan it al for you and you can tell them to throw most or all of it away after you look at it online.

Artisttyp, I spend my days right now looking for a small finca (farm) to purchase. I have always raised a few animals and had a vegetable garden so that is my plan, maybe a small working farm with coffee and avocado. My other hobby is fishing, I haven't gotten my fishing equipment here yet though, I don't think there is any good fishing here anyway but we'll see. I also have been going back to the gym again. And of course spending time online looking for new "talent".

[C Jack Sparrow]

"In my opinion the USA is still the greatest country in the world and has less problems than any country but like I said, that's my opinion. "

Hmmmm.

I buy that it is a very very prosperous country (Superpower) and deserves credit for that.

But "have less problems than any other country".

Human development index, pure statistics, tells Us a completly different story.

All western Europe countries are ahead in that fundamental aspect, and even a country that suffered for comunism for 45 years, Chech Rep. Is ahead of the US.

But I like the good old American patrioism, it keep the American spirit alive!

After todays victory over Uruguay and, if Colombia wins over Brasil next Friday, the country will be in the focus of the worlds attention. For a good reason!

Then journalists will start to report about all the good stuff that has happend here, a result of 40 years hard work!

Medellin is considered to be the best place for foreign companies who wants to invest in Latinamerica and Wall Street journal awarded Medellin 2013 the "most inovative city in the world" over New York and Tel Aviv.

Colombians have been waiting for this moment for years, decades, that their country finally will be respected.

My personal opinion is that Colombia has a very long way to travel and can never make it!

Spain left dictatorship 1975 and exploded economically, culturally and knowledge wise.

I noted recently that Madrilenos many times speak very good English, at least without the typical Spanish accent. Only real effort achieves that!

Spain made a transition from a conservative corrupt country to a up-to-date democracy in a few decades.

They made it!

In Colombia no.

Few people speak English.

University quality is a joke!

If this and that blaha-institution is a "Universidad", then Kindergarten is!

This country or Latinamerica as a whole will never make it, poverty is permanent, mobilization is in fact low if one calls things by their real name.

But today Colombia is victorious!

[BrasilSoccer0]

Manizales911,

I am very optimistic for my next adventure and encouraged by what you said about the DR. I would like to go there next.

What would you say is an accurate narrative of the non-pro women and Dominicans in general from your experiences?

Where are the good clean beach towns you recommend for me to settle in and find a rental?

Can I find a safe decent furnished house / apartment under $300 USD per month?

I'm in my early forties and like the college age decent girls. I'm good with Spanish and people and I want to plan a nice long (3-6 months) term trip there.

PM me if you prefer.


The longest I've stayed was ten weeks but right now I am in and out of Colombia every three weeks, mostly because I have to go to the USA To finish up on some business and real estate there. I think as time goes by I will miss the USA Less and less but I will have a place to crash in the USA For the foreseeable future.

If it were not for the hot weather I probably would have tried living in the DR, I just got back from there on Wednesday and it was hot as fuck, I can only handle it for 5-7 days at a time. I have been going to the DR on a very regular basis for ten years, I have a lot of friends there both with and without benefits. I don't know of any place in the western hemisphere that can compete with the DR for price, safety, ease of travel and great sex from the girls.

Cuba not easy to travel to, Rio expensive and far, Panama expensive girls and they're mostly Colombians and Dominicans, Costa Rica mostly Colombians and Dominicans and just plain sucks, El Salvador ugly girls and some safety concerns. Haiti would be on my radar big time if I spoke the language but I don't,it has huge potential despite it's problems.

I don't live in Medellin, I live in a small city outside of Manizales, not a big fan of the big cities.

[C Jack Sparrow]

I participate in a "rifa" on masajistaspaisas.com I can win free sex with a girl on that site. Blaha.

I get message from the site to visit this address: Calle 10 69 69 Medellin-Colombia.

Poblado, Parque Lleras? A club or a casa?

Anyone familiar with the place?

[Manizales911]

"In my opinion the USA is still the greatest country in the world and has less problems than any country but like I said, that's my opinion. "

Hmmmm.

I buy that it is a very very prosperous country (Superpower) and deserves credit for that.

But "have less problems than any other country".

Human development index, pure statistics, tells Us a completly different story.

All western Europe countries are ahead in that fundamental aspect, and even a country that suffered for comunism for 45 years, Chech Rep. Is ahead of the US.

Really? FYI the USA ranks #3 in the world on the human development index behind Norway and Australia. Western Europe being a better place to live than the USA, you've got to be kidding me.

[Orgasmico]

Manizales911,

I am very optimistic for my next adventure and encouraged by what you said about the DR. I would like to go there next.

What would you say is an accurate narrative of the non-pro women and Dominicans in general from your experiences?

Where are the good clean beach towns you recommend for me to settle in and find a rental?

Can I find a safe decent furnished house / apartment under $300 USD per month?

I'm in my early forties and like the college age decent girls. I'm good with Spanish and people and I want to plan a nice long (3-6 months) term trip there.

PM me if you prefer.You should ask this in the DR section.

[Orgasmico]

My other hobby is fishing, I haven't gotten my fishing equipment here yet though, I don't think there is any good fishing here anyway but we'll see. Are you talking inland or on the coast? I had some pretty good fish in Cartagena.

[BrasilSoccer0]

This should be asked in the fishing section maricon. Lmao.


Are you talking inland or on the coast? I had some pretty good fish in Cartagena.

[Manizales911]

Are you talking inland or on the coast? I had some pretty good fish in Cartagena.Inland, freshwater. My ex novia's father tells me there is good trout fishing but I don't know what his definition of "good" is, we'll see.

[BrasilSoccer0]

Man you crack me up. You are so full of yourself.

When I read your posts I am reminded by that old comercial: "where is the beef".

1- if you were swimming in "putang". LOL what are you doing now paying to eat hard core pussy?

2- where are your fotos to back up anything? Go look at my fotos here and on WSG!

3- you've been asking "Manizales911" one question after another, but can you contribute NOW?

Post a foto, write an informative report. In another word be relevant! And stop moderating the thread!


I am surprised at the number of mongers I see now in their 20's and early 30's. Perhaps things have changed because I was swimming in young putang back then LOL.

[Orgasmico]

This should be asked in the fishing section maricon. Lmao.Didn't know if you knew or not, but I suggested that because you might get more responses and it might help others looking for the same kind of info for the DR in those threads. Excuse me for trying to be helpful and prompting your gay slur.

[Orgasmico]

where are your fotos to back up anything? Go look at my fotos here and on WSG. You've been asking "Manizales911" one question after another Dude, Manizales responded to something I posted and we went back and forth then you decided to post based on his response to me. No need to get overly emotional on this site. I don't need to see your pictures. If you want to be a drama queen, it will have to be with someone else.

[BrasilSoccer0]

Here is what you posted! Sounds like you are full of it. LOL.


My first advice would be to join DR1, if you are not already a member. There are folks on that site that live in Gazcue. I consider the people in both friendly, BUT there are more tigueres in SDQ and people with an agenda or their hand out.

Food: MDE. I like the variety more in MDE, but I do like the fruit in the DR.

Transportation: MDE. I would want my own car in SDQ because the cabs aren't metered and can have a gringo tax.

Housing: MDE. You get more bang for your buck in MDE.

Weather: MDE. SDQ can be very hot, especially in the summer (bring your sun tan lotion if you have fair skin).

Quality of life: MDE. More upscale and modern overall, especially in touristy areas.

Economy: MDE. Seems like more people are doing well and working.

Education: MDE. People seem better educated.

Beaches: SDQ. Boca chica, Juan Dolio, etc.

Street Hustlers: SDQ. Can't escape them, even in Gazcue. For me this is one of the worst things about that area.

Lively Vibe: SDQ. Paisas are much more laid back compared to Dominicans. Dominicans dance!

[BrasilSoccer0]

Just hush. 去20320;22920;30340;.


Dude, Manizales responded to something I posted and we went back and forth then you decided to post based on his response to me. No need to get overly emotional on this site. I don't need to see your pictures. If you want to be a drama queen, it will have to be with someone else.

[Ricker]

Here is what you posted! Sounds like you are full of it. LOL.BrasilSoccer, relax man, Brasil won!

The Colombian forum flame battles get old fast and does nothing but drive guys away.

I've enjoyed your past posts and photos.

Good luck in the DR or wherever your next adventure may take you!

Peace amigo.

[Orgasmico]

The visa issue for me was the least of my problem as I automatically qualify for a residency visa as I am the father of a Colombian national.

No need to do business with a Colombian bank if you don't want to other than paying certain bills, and actually without a visa you will have a tough time opening an account so no need to bother, just keep your money in a USA Bank and withdraw as needed.

If you have a visa you can and must obtain health insurance here and it is dirt cheap, then you can get whatever prescriptions you need. I've never heard of anyone not being able to get a particular medicine here. If you are living here part time six months a year on a tourist stamp 60 or 90 days at a time just bring the meds with you from the USA Remember that you can get most meds without a prescription here, only narcotics require a prescription. I am fortunate in that I have my health for now, I'm about to turn 57 and am not on any meds at all.
Thanks for all the info. I'm planning to spend 3 to 6 months in Colombia soon so this kind of information is useful. I'm focused on MDE but also considering 2 tier cities like Manizales. Perhaps I will check out La Feria de Manizales to get a feel for the place.

[Golfinho]

"In my opinion the USA is still the greatest country in the world and has less problems than any country but like I said, that's my opinion."

Hmmmm.

I buy that it is a very very prosperous country (Superpower) and deserves credit for that. But "have less problems than any other country".Human development index, pure statistics, tells Us a completly different story.Hmmm. Your opinion reveals more about you, than about the reality of these countries. The reality is: All countries are good countries. If you have money!

[C Jack Sparrow]

Yes, sir, but take into account that my critique was about "less problems".

Hence I refer to this list; The Inequality-adjusted Human Development Index (IHDI)[10] is a "measure of the average level of human development of people in a society once inequality is taken into account. "

Including the social problems that inequality creates the US lags behind and is number 16, but still a good place to live. For you the very best, not for some people not.

For newbies: This is not Thailand:

Medellin is very discret. The girls work via channels like facebook, datingsites and escortsites. The casas, you must have the exact address to know where it is, in many cases it is so.

Me and those Gringos I often meet at these places, seems to feel the same; New Life and Energy are the best value for the money places or among the top 5, at least.

Many casas around New Life seems to have a lower standard, while at New life you always find a girl of your liking, maybe not a 10, but good enough for the moment and money.

The girls have learned to charge more for BBBJ and even DATY in some cases. I had to pay 30-40-50 for BBBJ. Too much but since the whole experience depends on it, I saw no choice.

The good thing is that many many girls in Medellin and in whole Colombia is nextdoor beauties that live here. Me wanting to give DATY to a girl, that tells that she is really attractive.

This compared to Buenos Aires where I lived one year. Hard to find that kind of pussy there. And almost all of them imported from poor regions of Argentina or Paraguay.

In Medellin you find girls at a casa that you can become friend with. She is normally a student, single mother. You can have fun and become real friends, often well spend money.

The difference here between a prostitute (here called "prepago") and a normal girl is very fluent. Many accept sex for money occacionally, but does not consider themself prepagos.

That is why Medellin is heaven. Chicks love money and are very attractive. Medellin is a paradise compared to Bs. As, but not better the good spots in Brasil.

The normal price for an attractive girl from the sites where girls work from apartments in Laureles and Poblado, sometimes fake photos, but there also real beauties, are 100-130 k COP, which is ca. 50-65 US $.

New Life charges 70 k for one hour and you can find very attractive there. Very economical.

Independent girls charge much much more. But they come home to you and treat you as a king!

I feel like; yes yes yes yes, I'm in Medellin for another four months and then next year. And next. ParadiseMedellin!

From World Travel 69 list.

* New Life, Calle 56 (Bolivia) # 43-39, piso 2, between el Palo and Giradot. 15+ Chicas. Prices: 45 k 30 min. 60 k 45 min.

70 k hour. Tel: 216 27 04. Hours: Monday to Saturday. 9 am to 8 pm, Sundays 10 am to 6 pm.

*Energy (Centro de Relajacion Corporal Energy), Carrera 74 # 49-101, near Calle 50 (Colombia) right next to the.

Stadium. 15-20 Chicas. Prices: 70 k 30 min. 120 k hour, +20-50 k BBBJ. Tel: 436 11 31,416 83 32. Hours: 7 days, 9 am to.

9:30 pm, Sundays? http://fantasiasenergy.com/index.html..

Enjoy Medellin. The ratio goodlooking girl: rich foreigner is like 1111:1.

You can't miss. Prepagos, yes you will have the time of your life. Girlfriends, you will have real Trophy Girlfriends.

If I can do it at 44, the majority of us can.

Welcome to Paradise Medellin!

[Manizales911]

Thanks for all the info. I'm planning to spend 3 to 6 months in Colombia soon so this kind of information is useful. I'm focused on MDE but also considering 2 tier cities like Manizales. Perhaps I will check out La Feria de Manizales to get a feel for the place.If you do that you will want to make arrangements for hotel / apartment way way in advance. Also every petty thief in Colombia follows the feria circuit so be careful of pickpockets and groups of young thiefs, don't walk around by yourself day or night or you WILL be robbed.

[Orgasmico]

If you do that you will want to make arrangements for hotel / apartment way way in advance. Also every petty thief in Colombia follows the feria circuit so be careful of pickpockets and groups of young thiefs, don't walk around by yourself day or night or you WILL be robbed.Thanks. I did La Feria de Cali last year and had a blast. I think Manizales is right after so I would do them back to back this year. I got some places already lined up in MDE for an extended stay.

[Turgid]

"Give me the USA of the 70's and 80's and I'd be a patriot once again" Man, I can't agree with you more. I remember the days in NYC when hookers were aplenty for US $20 an hour with fantastic American service with GFE. I have never been able to get blow jobs from providers to compare with what I got in Manhattan back in the day. Then guys started throwing away money on these hookers and they got greedy. Fast forward 40 years and we have what we have today. On my last trip to Mde (2010) I saw more gringos than I had ever seen before. I became worried.

[Orgasmico]

"Give me the USA of the 70's and 80's and I'd be a patriot once again" Man, I can't agree with you more. I remember the days in NYC when hookers were aplenty for US $20 an hour with fantastic American service with GFE. I have never been able to get blow jobs from providers to compare with what I got in Manhattan back in the day. Then guys started throwing away money on these hookers and they got greedy. Fast forward 40 years and we have what we have today. On my last trip to Mde (2010) I saw more gringos than I had ever seen before. I became worried.I grew up less than a mile away from Forty Deuce so I definitely know what you're talking about. I wonder if guys would be traveling as much to places like Colombia if the environment now was like it was back then. When I think about it, it blew away any of these places.

[Artisttyp]

I grew up less than a mile away from Forty Deuce so I definitely know what you're talking about. I wonder if guys would be traveling as much to places like Colombia if the environment now was like it was back then. When I think about it, it blew away any of these places.I lost my virginity to "WENDY" on 49th St. And 7th Ave when I was 13 years old.

Porn Theaters had little rooms behind the screen. The girls would come out and sit with you while you watched the movie to get you warmed up.

Forty Deuce was my mongering school.

That's why I love the street scenes in MDE and Tijuana. That's about as close as you can get to old NYC.

[BayBoy]

You guys are getting me nostalgic for Oakland, CA in the early 70's, where the girls would car date for $10-15. Minimal police presence in those days and NO arresting of the johns.

I had my favorites on the streets.

[C Jack Sparrow]

Medellin women has the strongest disposition to prostitute themselves in Colombia. Since Colombian woman have among the highest percentage overall in the world, this makes "las paisas" the most apt to have sex for money in the whole world!

This behavior are not just a pure tendency to choose this for economical reasones. It is a behaviour that influences many other social activities and relations. The Paisa Mentality.

This statistics show this pattern very well: " First place in the twentieth century, the city with the highest number of women in prostitution was Medellin. In the early 70's in Antioquia was over 30 per cent of sex workers surveyed nationwide and of that percentage, 70 percent lived in the city, according to Ada Trifiro, in her book "Women in prostitution". The department has also been characterized as the birthplace of the greater number of them in the country. According to the statistics representing 30.6 percent, indicating the publication.

Paisa women (here Antioquia) are the vastly overrepresented in the profession. The Antioquia women represent 13.6 % of the female population, but 30.6% of the prostitutes in Colombia.

It is in the culture of course. Acting likewise in other situations are hence typical paisa. They break social conventions and rules in order to get their hands on a iPhone or a Studio F purse, but also to get grades at the university, get a job, get married into a higher Estrato Social or "extranjero". That is human, but among paisas it is not just human, it's typical!

Cultural, yes, but also genetical, since other parts of Colombia with the same culture not are affected and the paisa region is way better of in job opportunities than other regions in Colombia. One might reason. But actually poverty is NOT the strongest component in explaing prostitution. It is much more about "marriable men" in the strict economical sense!

The more money that flows into Medellin and the more percentage of men that can not attract a female to marry them because of RELATIVE TO THE WOMEN economical shortcomings, the more prostitutes there will be. It will not decrease due to economic growth, research show, it may instead increase, vastly!. The economical "profit" for marriage are the central factor. Since most men continue to have weak "relative" economical performance due to very low salaries for unskilled workers, females, now with "education", are increasing in numbers as well as a percentage of the cohort 18-33 years old.

This according to researchers Lena Edlund and Evelyn Korn study ""A Theory of Prostitution" publiced in Journal Of Political Economy.

http://www.forbes.com/2006/02/11/economics-prostitution-marriage_cx_mn_money06_0214prostitution.html

Already given this strong genetical and cultural behaviour and the new economical circumstances, the number and percentage of prostitutes, in all forms, will continue to increase in Medellin.

Paisas will be even more inclined to do above mentioned things for money, and to it in a typical paisa way.

Hence. For us buyers, we the "extranjeros", there should be an steady influx of new talent into the scene, which should hold back prices. Prices would maybe have been rising fast without this growth of the workforce. But maybe 90% of the 45 k-60 k prostitutes in Medellin never come in contact with extranjeros. But essentially there is no reason to accept steadily rising prices, increasing much more than the average inflation in Medellin. We can negotiate better prices than we think, including myself!

We are the buyers and for us it is essential calculate how our behavioural options turns out:

Pick up your calculator and do the maths; Which option is best, inluding all, for us extranjeros in Medellin? Girlfriend, girlfriends, wife, wife +lover, wife+lover+ prepagos, or just stick to the "best buck for the money"-principle. Marriage can on the other hand be an investment, successful men always must have a representative good looking (for us: latin) wife, or be considered weird.

A study how the "buyers" act is also needed.

[ForceSteeler]

Medellin women has the strongest disposition to prostitute themselves in Colombia. Since Colombian woman have among the highest percentage overall in the world, this makes "las paisas" the most apt to have sex for money in the whole world!

This behavior are not just a pure tendency to choose this for economical reasones. It is a behaviour that influences many other social activities and relations. The Paisa Mentality.

This statistics show this pattern very well: " First place in the twentieth century, the city with the highest number of women in prostitution was Medellin. In the early 70's in Antioquia was over 30 per cent of sex workers surveyed nationwide and of that percentage, 70 percent lived in the city, according to Ada Trifiro, in her book "Women in prostitution". The department has also been characterized as the birthplace of the greater number of them in the country. According to the statistics representing 30.6 percent, indicating the publication.

Paisa women (here Antioquia) are the vastly overrepresented in the profession. The Antioquia women represent 13.6 % of the female population, but 30.6% of the prostitutes in Colombia.

It is in the culture of course...The price of pussy has taking a hit all over. I can remember when a good working girl can get a easy $200-$300 per hour on Eros and Craiglist old days in the (90's-2007). Now everybody is selling pussy. Now on back page you can get a decent nut for.

$60-$100 a hour, I talk to a lot of working girls tell me there is a influx of new working girls coming on the scene, so they don't get that many calls. Even in underground spots in NYC, I can remember when chicks wanted top dollar for suck and f*ck. Now you can.

You can get then for as little as $40-$60.

[Rjsss212]

Medellin women has the strongest disposition to prostitute themselves in Colombia.

This statistics show this pattern very well.

It is in the culture of course.I think you have fallen victim to "confirmation bias". You might want to recheck your "facts".

[Shamester]

You guys are getting me nostalgic for Oakland, CA in the early 70's, where the girls would car date for $10-15. Minimal police presence in those days and NO arresting of the johns.

I had my favorites on the streets.Curious what this rate is in today's dollar.

[Member #4394]

US $15 in 1975 in the purchase power of 2014, according to the calculation based on the CPI. A conversion based on GDP or National Income growth would be a different story.


Curious what this rate is in today's dollar..

[Member #4394]

You brought many relevant factors. But unfortunately, many things (ie culture, economy, academic findings, what Forbes writer said, etc.) got mixed up in your long post. Thanks for the effort.


Medellin women has the strongest disposition to prostitute themselves in Colombia. ..

[BayBoy]

US $15 in 1975 in the purchase power of 2014, according to the calculation based on the CPI. A conversion based on GDP or National Income growth would be a different story.

.The street girls are charging $30-40 today. Maybe these are the good olden times.

[Turgid]

My days for doing street girls in the US are long gone. I know a pimp who over the years has more or less become a friend who supplies me with hookers, they're not cheap, however. I've seen the street girls in Centro Mde and am totally uninterested. The last time I sampled in Mayorista was in 2008 the same year as my last visit to what I consider to be the best street scene in the world, Geylang in Singapore, some of my best mongering experiences ever were had there (ah, those Indonesian cuties). But I understand its not as good now as it was then. I'm looking forward to my visit to Mde from next week after a hiatus of almost four years. Mostly casa visits. Will compare to 2010.

[Loki]

I came across their website (http://avatarmasajes.wix.com/avatar), but upon further review, they are not a bukkake club / gangbang club (in the German sense anyway).

I got excited for a little bit because one of my best experiences was spending to days in a Berlin Gangbang club last summer (Erlebniswohnung was the name of the club).

Anyway, if anyone has ever been here, my question is:

Is this place in Medellin any different from the other Centro casas?

The address is:

Calle 58 No 45 D-104 Echeverry Cerca de la Avenida Oriental.

[Pelon74]

Medellin women has the strongest disposition to prostitute themselves in Colombia. Since Colombian woman have among the highest percentage overall in the world, this makes "las paisas" the most apt to have sex for money in the whole world!

This behavior are not just a pure tendency to choose this for economical reasones. It is a behaviour that influences many other social activities and relations. The Paisa Mentality.

This statistics show this pattern very well: " First place in the twentieth century, the city with the highest number of women in prostitution was Medellin. In the early 70's in Antioquia was over 30 per cent of sex workers surveyed nationwide and of that percentage, 70 percent lived in the city, according to Ada Trifiro, in her book "Women in prostitution". The department has also been characterized as the birthplace of the greater number of them in the country. According to the statistics representing 30.6 percent, indicating the publication.

Paisa women (here Antioquia) are the vastly overrepresented in the profession. The Antioquia women represent 13.6 % of the female population, but 30.6% of the prostitutes in Colombia.

It is in the culture of course. Acting likewise in other situations are hence typical paisa. They break social conventions and rules in order to get their hands on a iPhone or a Studio F purse, but also to get grades at the university, get a job, get married into a higher Estrato Social or "extranjero". That is human, but among paisas it is not just human, it's typical!

Cultural, yes, but also genetical, since other parts of Colombia with the same culture not are affected and the paisa region is way better of in job opportunities than other regions in Colombia. One might reason. But actually poverty is NOT the strongest component in explaing prostitution. It is much more about "marriable men" in the strict economical sense!

The more money that flows into Medellin and the more percentage of men that can not attract a female to marry them because of RELATIVE TO THE WOMEN economical shortcomings, the more prostitutes there will be. It will not decrease due to economic growth, research show, it may instead increase, vastly!. The economical "profit" for marriage are the central factor. Since most men continue to have weak "relative" economical performance due to very low salaries for unskilled workers, females, now with "education", are increasing in numbers as well as a percentage of the cohort 18-33 years old.

This according to researchers Lena Edlund and Evelyn Korn study ""A Theory of Prostitution" publiced in Journal Of Political Economy.

http://www.forbes.com/2006/02/11/economics-prostitution-marriage_cx_mn_money06_0214prostitution.html

Already given this strong genetical and cultural behaviour and the new economical circumstances, the number and percentage of prostitutes, in all forms, will continue to increase in Medellin.

Paisas will be even more inclined to do above mentioned things for money, and to it in a typical paisa way.

Hence. For us buyers, we the "extranjeros", there should be an steady influx of new talent into the scene, which should hold back prices. Prices would maybe have been rising fast without this growth of the workforce. But maybe 90% of the 45 k-60 k prostitutes in Medellin never come in contact with extranjeros. But essentially there is no reason to accept steadily rising prices, increasing much more than the average inflation in Medellin. We can negotiate better prices than we think, including myself!

We are the buyers and for us it is essential calculate how our behavioural options turns out:

Pick up your calculator and do the maths; Which option is best, inluding all, for us extranjeros in Medellin? Girlfriend, girlfriends, wife, wife +lover, wife+lover+ prepagos, or just stick to the "best buck for the money"-principle. Marriage can on the other hand be an investment, successful men always must have a representative good looking (for us: latin) wife, or be considered weird.

A study how the "buyers" act is also needed.It's amazing you can find Colombians working in HK, Europe, Macau, Shanghai, Japan, Mexico, CR, Israel, Arab golf counties and even in Jamaica, definitely Colombians are the Ho, s of the world.

[Vitrea]

I think you have fallen victim to "confirmation bias". You might want to recheck your "facts".The guy made an honest effort to present a reasonably methodical and somewhat scientific approach to address a very genuine question of why prostitution rates are so high in MDE. Your comment without backing up what the actual non factual information is simply ridiculous.

[Turgid]

". definitely Colombians are the Ho, s of the world. " That is so not true. There are more Dominican women in the profession worldwide and I would not call them that. Also what about the Chinese, Brazilians, Filipinas and Thais. Furthermore there are many Colombians living in other countries who have successful mainstream careers and are married to extranjeros.

[Rjsss212]

The guy made an honest effort to present a reasonably methodical and somewhat scientific approach to address a very genuine question of why prostitution rates are so high in MDE. Your comment without backing up what the actual non factual information is simply ridiculous.Really Vitrea? You surprise me but OK, just for shits and giggles.

In his first sentence CJack posits that "Medellin women has the strongest disposition to prostitute themselves in Colombia. ".

Ok, I can't begin to speculate whether this is true or not based on my barely half a dozen trips but lets see how he gets there:


It is in the culture of course. Acting likewise in other situations are hence typical paisa. They break social conventions and rules in order to get their hands on a iPhone or a Studio F purse, but also to get grades at the university, get a job, get married into a higher Estrato Social or "extranjero". That is human, but among paisas it is not just human, it's typical"Cultural", "human", "not just human", "typical". Huh? I mean, huh? Or was it the iphone.


Cultural, yes, but also genetical, since other parts of Colombia with the same culture not are affected and the paisa region is way better of in job opportunities than other regions in Colombia. One might reason. Again, quite a stretch but at least he qualified it with "One might reason".

Now 3 paragraphs down:


Already given this strong genetical and cultural behaviour and the new economical circumstances, the number and percentage of prostitutes, in all forms, will continue to increase in Medellin. Whoa! So his "one may reason" is now a "strong" genetic link and has become fact and leads to the inevitable conclusion of an increase in hookers and falling prices?

Is this something like the BRCA gene? And what's the protocol, clitoral extraction?

Well, it might be an "honest" attempt (whatever that means) but "reasonably methodical" and "somewhat scientific", really Vitrea?

Let's hope his analysis of the "Women of the Dominican Republic" follows shortly.

[Hawk452]

This is my first time visiting Colombia, I usually go to the DR, Thailand, or Mexico. I have been reading the message board so I can hit the ground running, instead of landing on my face when I get there next week, Friday the 11th, and I want to know how much, on an average a tour of the casas or bars will set me back, what should I carry and be prepared to spend so I don't look like a Cheap Charlie or a Mark ready to be robbed? A good daily average, $50, $100, $150. ? I know different area have different rules and I have never had any problems when traveling but I am trying to prevent the first time from happening. Second I have read several post about Spanish lessons being available but where do you go to get them? Can you go to the Mansion for a drink and check it out or is it for guest only? Just curious may want to stay there but want to know a little about it first, is it like Blackbeards in Porta Plata, DR? I have a place in Parque Lleras anybody want to meet up Friday for a drink and help a new guy to the area out, I'll buy the first round or 2. (See not a cheap charlie) Just PM me.

[Vitrea]

Really Vitrea? You surprise me but OK, just for shits and giggles.


Well, it might be an "honest" attempt (whatever that means) but "reasonably methodical" and "somewhat scientific", really Vitrea?

Let's hope his analysis of the "Women of the Dominican Republic" follows shortly.I just thought it is only fair that you explain why you thought he was wrong. Now that you did that, accept my apologies my friend, for sticking my nose where it does not belong. Cheers.