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Vitrea
07-02-14, 02:21
This is my first time visiting Colombia, I usually go to the DR, Thailand, or Mexico. I have been reading the message board so I can hit the ground running, instead of landing on my face when I get there next week, Friday the 11th, and I want to know how much, on an average a tour of the casas or bars will set me back, what should I carry and be prepared to spend so I don't look like a Cheap Charlie or a Mark ready to be robbed? A good daily average, $50, $100, $150. ? I know different area have different rules and I have never had any problems when traveling but I am trying to prevent the first time from happening. Second I have read several post about Spanish lessons being available but where do you go to get them? Can you go to the Mansion for a drink and check it out or is it for guest only? Just curious may want to stay there but want to know a little about it first, is it like Blackbeards in Porta Plata, DR? I have a place in Parque Lleras anybody want to meet up Friday for a drink and help a new guy to the area out, I'll buy the first round or 2. (See not a cheap charlie) Just PM me.Sorry, I can't resist.

You posted similar question several times in the last few days, which is not big deal but I also noticed that you also posted a "first timer" question in 10-20-13 in the DR thread and never bothered to contribute back with any reports about DR. Please read the forum and learn to contribute before you ask others for their time and effort.

No hard feelings. I am only doing this to discourage other newbies from doing the same. Good luck with your trip.

P.S. It is not too late. Post a decent trip report on your October DR trip (with some real info) and PM me. I will be happy to answer all your questions about MDE.

Hawk452
07-02-14, 04:01
Sorry, I can't resist.

You posted similar question several times in the last few days, which is not big deal but I also noticed that you also posted a "first timer" question in 10-20-13 in the DR thread and never bothered to contribute back with any reports about DR. Please read the forum and learn to contribute before you ask others for their time and effort.

No hard feelings. I am only doing this to discourage other newbies from doing the same. Good luck with your trip.

P.S. It is not too late. Post a decent trip report on your October DR trip (with some real info) and PM me. I will be happy to answer all your questions about MDE.I have posted "similar question" because I got no response, no answer to them and they got buried in the thread. The only help I received was in the Apt. Section and one PM. I was hoping for more.

Second my plans fell apart in October and I ended up staying the whole time at Blackbeards, while it is a fun place it has literally been posted about hundreds of times and I figure one more wouldn't matter. I meet a chica by the pool went to room, meet a chica by the pool went to room, watched bikini show, meet a girl by the pool went to room and so on and so forth.

I wish someone would put in a little time and effort, I will be happy to write a review of my trip, I would like some help to make it a good one and a good read.

The offer of a round or 2 still stands.

Legal Tender
07-02-14, 06:04
Medellin women has the strongest disposition to prostitute themselves in Colombia. Since Colombian woman have among the highest percentage overall in the world, this makes "las paisas" the most apt to have sex for money in the whole world!

This behavior are not just a pure tendency to choose this for economical reasones. It is a behaviour that influences many other social activities and relations. The Paisa Mentality.

This statistics show this pattern very well: " First place in the twentieth century, the city with the highest number of women in prostitution was Medellin. In the early 70's in Antioquia was over 30 per cent of sex workers surveyed nationwide and of that percentage, 70 percent lived in the city, according to Ada Trifiro, in her book "Women in prostitution". The department has also been characterized as the birthplace of the greater number of them in the country. According to the statistics representing 30.6 percent, indicating the publication.

Paisa women (here Antioquia) are the vastly overrepresented in the profession. The Antioquia women represent 13.6 % of the female population, but 30.6% of the prostitutes in Colombia.

It is in the culture of course. Acting likewise in other situations are hence typical paisa. They break social conventions and rules in order to get their hands on a iPhone or a Studio F purse, but also to get grades at the university, get a job, get married into a higher Estrato Social or "extranjero". That is human, but among paisas it is not just human, it's typical!

Cultural, yes, but also genetical, since other parts of Colombia with the same culture not are affected and the paisa region is way better of in job opportunities than other regions in Colombia. One might reason. But actually poverty is NOT the strongest component in explaing prostitution. It is much more about "marriable men" in the strict economical sense!

The more money that flows into Medellin and the more percentage of men that can not attract a female to marry them because of RELATIVE TO THE WOMEN economical shortcomings, the more prostitutes there will be. It will not decrease due to economic growth, research show, it may instead increase, vastly!. The economical "profit" for marriage are the central factor. Since most men continue to have weak "relative" economical performance due to very low salaries for unskilled workers, females, now with "education", are increasing in numbers as well as a percentage of the cohort 18-33 years old.

This according to researchers Lena Edlund and Evelyn Korn study ""A Theory of Prostitution" publiced in Journal Of Political Economy.

http://www.forbes.com/2006/02/11/economics-prostitution-marriage_cx_mn_money06_0214prostitution.html

Already given this strong genetical and cultural behaviour and the new economical circumstances, the number and percentage of prostitutes, in all forms, will continue to increase in Medellin.

Paisas will be even more inclined to do above mentioned things for money, and to it in a typical paisa way.

Hence. For us buyers, we the "extranjeros", there should be an steady influx of new talent into the scene, which should hold back prices. Prices would maybe have been rising fast without this growth of the workforce. But maybe 90% of the 45 k-60 k prostitutes in Medellin never come in contact with extranjeros. But essentially there is no reason to accept steadily rising prices, increasing much more than the average inflation in Medellin. We can negotiate better prices than we think, including myself!

We are the buyers and for us it is essential calculate how our behavioural options turns out:

Pick up your calculator and do the maths; Which option is best, inluding all, for us extranjeros in Medellin? Girlfriend, girlfriends, wife, wife +lover, wife+lover+ prepagos, or just stick to the "best buck for the money"-principle. Marriage can on the other hand be an investment, successful men always must have a representative good looking (for us: latin) wife, or be considered weird.

A study how the "buyers" act is also needed.The writing by Jack was very interesting. The observations and conclusions are fair deductions from the underlying authorities. There is something "special" about the women of Medellin. They have a genetically validated quality: some of the most beautiful and sexual women on the planet. I suspect they are some of the most popular sex workers on earth. They are everywhere pussy is being sold at a profitable price. The social conventions and rules that Jack wrote about are not necessarily "broken. " It is not unusual for successful men in Medellin to have a "special" girl on the side. And, the culture seems to embrace the notion that a girl can have a relationship with a "maduro" - an older man that will provide guidance and support. It's interesting to see Christianity practiced without the influence of Puritanism. The view is that between a male and female sex is simply "normal. " What is remarkable is how many of these girls are simply pleasure givers. They are usually undependable, addicted to drama, and only live in the present moment; they're naturals at sex and like to benefit.

Colombia Jake
07-02-14, 17:33
Http://www.colombiajake.com/World cup fun party last Friday with cans of foam spray all over the Zona Rosa! Hope Colombia wins this Friday and do it again! Had two sets of guys stay last month one set from Canada and the other mix USA and England buddies came to stay at Jake's and let me show them around and get comfortable with the city. Both felt it takes three days to get adjusted to a new city and that's just how they each stayed and then moved on to other places. If your coming on a short trip your not going to be able to find the places and night life I going to show you no matter how much you prepare in advance. Give a shout!

Thanks,

Jake

Bbrocs
07-02-14, 18:09
I have posted "similar question" because I got no response, no answer to them and they got buried in the thread. The only help I received was in the Apt. Section and one PM. I was hoping for more..Besides the PM I sent you try:

Apartmentsmedellin, VRBO, GOOGLE, CRAIGSLIST Colombia, AIRBNB, FLIPKEY

just some advice communicate more, say my budget is this, what else can you show me. Hard to help unless you explain what it is you want.

Member #4394
07-02-14, 20:20
Just calculate the cost by yourself based on your plan for the day. Ie. 40 k for centro casas, 200 k for clubs. Double the total amount of expected cost, and take that amount with you. You keep small amount of money in several pockets, but the rest in shoes and / or socks.


I have posted "similar question" because I got no response, no answer to them and they got buried in the thread. The only help I received was in the Apt. Section and one PM. I was hoping for more.

Second my plans fell apart in October and I ended up staying the whole time at Blackbeards, while it is a fun place it has literally been posted about hundreds of times and I figure one more wouldn't matter. I meet a chica by the pool went to room, meet a chica by the pool went to room, watched bikini show, meet a girl by the pool went to room and so on and so forth.

I wish someone would put in a little time and effort, I will be happy to write a review of my trip, I would like some help to make it a good one and a good read.

The offer of a round or 2 still stands..

Vitrea
07-02-14, 22:32
I have posted "similar question" because I got no response, no answer to them and they got buried in the thread. The only help I received was in the Apt. Section and one PM. I was hoping for more.

Second my plans fell apart in October and I ended up staying the whole time at Blackbeards, while it is a fun place it has literally been posted about hundreds of times and I figure one more wouldn't matter. I meet a chica by the pool went to room, meet a chica by the pool went to room, watched bikini show, meet a girl by the pool went to room and so on and so forth.

I wish someone would put in a little time and effort, I will be happy to write a review of my trip, I would like some help to make it a good one and a good read.

The offer of a round or 2 still stands.Sounds reasonable but remember to post your experiences of MDE.

Money: That was already answered but this is the most variable of all. You can go very cheap if you stick to casas and centro clubs or end up spending a lot if you do Fase 2 and La Isla. All prices are in the MDE list section.

Spanish lessons: I have no good leads except that I almost signed up for a two week university course and later dropped it. Google shows many courses.

Mansion girls: They won't let you in just for a look see but you can go their bar for a cover fee (this policy varies from time to time but no harm in dropping by and asking). Don't bother with it before 8 PM. Many of the same girls now supposedly work at Liquid lounge also. See that thread for latest news.

Bbrocs owns and rents apartments so his PM probably is adequate for that information.

Hope this helps.

Shizzle78
07-03-14, 14:45
Hi there,

I live in Bogota and will be in Medellin next week for few days. I wanted to know how you contact chicas.

Like it was said a couple of times, Facebook and prep ago sites are a good way, but how exactly does Facebook work? How can I get in touch with them, you have to know names?

Thank you in advance,

Shizzle78

World Travel 69
07-03-14, 15:26
4. Hostal Avatar (ex-Angeles de Fuego), Calle 58 (Av. Oriental) # 45 D-104. 3+ Chicas. Prices: 35 k 30 min. , 55 k hour. Tel: (57) (4) ____, Cell: 312 894 77 11. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10 am to 7 pm. , Sunday _ http://avatarmasajes.wix.com/avatar (#33 on Tung's Map.).


I came across their website (http://avatarmasajes.wix.com/avatar), but upon further review, they are not a bukkake club / gangbang club (in the German sense anyway).

I got excited for a little bit because one of my best experiences was spending to days in a Berlin Gangbang club last summer (Erlebniswohnung was the name of the club).

Anyway, if anyone has ever been here, my question is:

Is this place in Medellin any different from the other Centro casas?

The address is:

Calle 58 No 45 D-104 Echeverry Cerca de la Avenida Oriental.

FoxesHunter
07-03-14, 17:36
Hi there,

I live in Bogota and will be in Medellin next week for few days. I wanted to know how you contact chicas.

Like it was said a couple of times, Facebook and prep ago sites are a good way, but how exactly does Facebook work? How can I get in touch with them, you have to know names?For Facebook I follow this rule: I look at her profile and pics, then I look for her friends. If her friends have hard pics, she is a pro or prepago.

Shizzle78
07-04-14, 15:30
For Facebook I follow this rule: I look at her profile and pics, then I look for her friends. If her friends have hard pics, she is a pro or prepago.Ok, thank you very much, FoxesHunter. But how did you get in touch with the first one? I do not know anyone, so it is hard to find friends, do you know what I mean?

Thanks again!

Shizzle78

Almotu
07-04-14, 15:37
I came across their website (http://avatarmasajes.wix.com/avatar), but upon further review, they are not a bukkake club / gangbang club (in the German sense anyway).
I got excited for a little bit because one of my best experiences was spending to days in a Berlin Gangbang club last summer (Erlebniswohnung was the name of the club).
Anyway, if anyone has ever been here, my question is:
Is this place in Medellin any different from the other Centro casas?
The address is: Calle 58 No 45 D-104 Echeverry Cerca de la Avenida Oriental. I believe this location is CLOSED now. During the course of 2 weeks last December, I visited about 5 times and found it padlocked during various times in the afternoon. I would not have your hopes up, when it was a casa named 'Angeles de Fuego' the talent was lackluster. I don't believe bukkake or bareback clubs exist in Medellin, at least not publicly advertised.

ILikeBigButts3
07-04-14, 22:39
Just a different perspective:

Back in my Navy days the women I had sex with wanted nothing more than a little bed warming while their husbands were away on deployment. They already had (his) money, (his) house, (his) car, and (his) kids taken care of. Only thing I spent was time, gas, and energy (thrust exertion, LOL).

Some did come with an emotional price: there were a few that would get clingy and I would have to remind them that they were married.

But I would honestly say that after around 26-27 yrs old the free pussy ho train started coming to an end.And I just turned 26 not long ago! At any rate, pussy is pussy, "free" or paid for. Besides paid for pussy is usually better from my short experience.

Loki
07-05-14, 00:10
Thanks Almotu.

I walked by it a couple of days ago. A little too far north for my taste. It was a dodgy street. I know it's only a block over from Aiffe, but it makes a difference. Anyway, I ended up going to Belle Suite or whatever it's now called. Had a spinner named Jessica, but her poontang wasn't all that fresh-smelling.

I'm from LA and the Korean providers there provide awesome service. BBBJ, DATY, RIMMING, CIM, COF, and a little BBFS depending on your chemistry.

It seems that these services are not a sure thing here. I know that rimming is probably out of the question and maybe CIM and COF, but FFS, a BBBJ should be standard.

I've been to practically every casa east of Avenida Oriental. I don't really like the places near the Cathedral with the exception of Paris and Zandaly.

Anyway, my question. How can I crack the facebook prepago circle? I have worked out a real good Toda La Noche with a cute spinner for 120 K, but I want more variety. I see so many banging hot college girls in LLeras. I want one of them.

I know I'm not a Senior Member, but I am one in the USA forums. Plus I'm no stranger to Medellin. It's my second time here. I've clocked in about 2 months over the last two years, so I'm not a rookie, but I'm not a seasoned veteran yet either, which is why any facebook help would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. Will Colombia's loss to Brazil affect provider performance for a while?


I believe this location is CLOSED now. During the course of 2 weeks last December, I visited about 5 times and found it padlocked during various times in the afternoon. I would not have your hopes up, when it was a casa named 'Angeles de Fuego' the talent was lackluster. I don't believe bukkake or bareback clubs exist in Medellin, at least not publicly advertised.

Hawk452
07-05-14, 00:57
I have read on here that you can preschedule some meeting using Facebook. What kind of lines on Facebook do you use to see if the girl is a prepago or interested in meeting for some fun? Any code words? How do you usually set up a meet?

Loki
07-05-14, 08:20
So I'm renting an apartment in Astorga near Parque Poblado for 2 months. Is there a way to get access to the Mansion girls without staying there? I read in a post that there was a cover.

Can someone confirm this?

Also, I'm here for another 5 weeks, and my buddies from last time I was here are out of town (Malta, Ecuador, Cartagena, Los Angeles). So where is a good place (besides the Mansion) to meet up with some mongers?

Member #4287
07-05-14, 10:05
I have read on here that you can preschedule some meeting using Facebook. What kind of lines on Facebook do you use to see if the girl is a prepago or interested in meeting for some fun? Any code words? How do you usually set up a meet?First you should send them a friend request and if they accept a friend request from some gringo that they don't know from bean. I wouldn't worry about being coy.

Loki
07-05-14, 15:18
Hi,

Can anyone confirm if there is a cover for the Cave at the Mansion? I am staying at an apartment in Parque Poblado. I have been to practically all the casas and SD show, and I kinda wanted some GFE. So before I look at prepago sites, I just wanted to know if access to the Mansion girls is possible.

Thanks guys,

Loki

Lefeu
07-05-14, 18:27
First you should send them a friend request and if they accept a friend request from some gringo that they don't know from bean. I wouldn't worry about being coy.Actually, no need to send a friend request first, although it makes things much easier. If you have a common friend, you can use their name as a reference. I've used that successfully.

Member #4353
07-05-14, 19:29
Yes, there is a cover to go to the Cave at the Mansion. All that information has been discussed here in the past. Go to Liquid Lounge (ask for Vanessa she knows all of them) and you will find some Mansion girls there that offer the GFE you are looking for. Most of this information is discussed here, you just have to read a little bit more than you probably want.

Good luck


Hi,

Can anyone confirm if there is a cover for the Cave at the Mansion? I am staying at an apartment in Parque Poblado. I have been to practically all the casas and SD show, and I kinda wanted some GFE. So before I look at prepago sites, I just wanted to know if access to the Mansion girls is possible.

Thanks guys,

Loki

ForceSteeler
07-06-14, 01:31
Yes, there is a cover to go to the Cave at the Mansion. All that information has been discussed here in the past. Go to Liquid Lounge (ask for Vanessa she knows all of them) and you will find some Mansion girls there that offer the GFE you are looking for. Most of this information is discussed here, you just have to read a little bit more than you probably want.

Good luckIs the Mansion the only place to Get a GFE? How is the Rotation at the Casas?

Do you see the same Casas Girls? Year after year? Or do they change after a few weeks / months?

Yujin
07-06-14, 07:51
Does the Museum of Antioquia have "dozens of brothels" behind them? I didn't think the brothels were in that location.

And what kind of idiot uses a grenade in a street brawl? What happened to good old knives, guns, crowbars, brass knuckles, etc. A grenade is just crazy. . . Or is that Medellin being Medellin.

http://colombiareports.co/grenade-blast-next-medellin-museum-kills-1-injures-least-32/

Manizales911
07-06-14, 10:04
Does the Museum of Antioquia have "dozens of brothels" behind them? I didn't think the brothels were in that location.

And what kind of idiot uses a grenade in a street brawl? What happened to good old knives, guns, crowbars, brass knuckles, etc. A grenade is just crazy. . . Or is that Medellin being Medellin.

http://colombiareports.co/grenade-blast-next-medellin-museum-kills-1-injures-least-32/It's Medellin being Medellin, they don't fuck around here. If I'm not mistaken a bunch of strip clubs are three blocks away, then again I'm not a museum kind of guy so not sure exactly of the location.

Jet69
07-06-14, 17:11
Last two times I stayed at Mansion they would not allow anyone in that was not staying at the hotel. That is a good policy. Why would anyone want to pay premium prices for average rooms and then have outside guys showing up for the woman?

No trip reports from July 4th festivities at Mansion?


Hi,

Can anyone confirm if there is a cover for the Cave at the Mansion? I am staying at an apartment in Parque Poblado. I have been to practically all the casas and SD show, and I kinda wanted some GFE. So before I look at prepago sites, I just wanted to know if access to the Mansion girls is possible.

Thanks guys,

Loki

Bart1
07-06-14, 19:26
It's Medellin being Medellin, they don't fuck around here. If I'm not mistaken a bunch of strip clubs are three blocks away, then again I'm not a museum kind of guy so not sure exactly of the location.The corner shown by the arrow on the map is De Grief and Cundinamarca. There are 2 strip clubs within 50 meters of the corner, one on Cundinamarca named Hilton Grill, the other on De Grief to the right on the photo. I have never seen another gringo in either of the two clubs. Hilton Grill is the better of the two. Interesting to visit if you get bored with the two on Maracaibo Street. There are lots of brothels on Cundinamarca south of the corner, which is behind the museum and one block south. These are no name places with the chicas standing in the entrance way leading up stairs to the second floor. These places make mayorista look really, really upscale. My recommendation is avoid, I always travel solo in Colombia, but if you were to visit upstairs this is definitely where you should have a wingman, and daylight hours only. Hilton Grill area ok for solo gringo but I would suggest leaving by 2300 hours if solo. Some fun bars north of Hilton Grill in the same block, same side of street one named Skarxxxx, not sure of spelling, but big neon sign and lots of freelance chicas, weekends nights 10 to 20 chicas. I have been in this area many times in the past 4 years and I do not recall seeing another gringo, and never had any problems, but then I leave by 2200 hours and head back to the tamer spots on Maracaibo Street. If you think mayorista is seedy and dangerous then avoid the above areas.

Monger2012
07-06-14, 19:45
If you guys facebook search Casa Shlomi, you will find pictures of many mansion girls hanging out and partying there. I heard it's a hostel cater to Israeli Jews and they get to party and fuck the girls for free. Anyone actually check out this place personally? Why can't we setup something like for American gringos?

Member #4244
07-06-14, 20:38
I have been to about a dozen different clubs / venues in that area. I would not recommend any of them. Why stress to pull the one gem out of ten places? Why use their acrid facilities? Why hang around that particular area of the Centro? And that comes from someone who stays there and generally says the danger is overblown. If you do go, I don't think going alone is a huge deal but it is helpful to have someone show you what is what. Make friends with Mr Zuniga at the Barra Ejecutiva. Good guy who can show you a lot of stuff. You cannot miss him, trust me.

We were on our way to Las Palmas last night when this grenade thing occurred. Scary stuff, normally I'd have been about three blocks away.

Member #4244
07-06-14, 20:39
Last two times I stayed at Mansion they would not allow anyone in that was not staying at the hotel. That is a good policy. Why would anyone want to pay premium prices for average rooms and then have outside guys showing up for the woman?

No trip reports from July 4th festivities at Mansion?That is still their strict policy. I once went to drop off a package for a friend who was staying there and despite telling them I lived in MDE and I was just there to see him, they busted my balls about it. Ultimately they relented but I got the sense they were making an exception. I made it clear I wasn't there to talk to the girls also.

Member #4244
07-06-14, 20:40
Does the Museum of Antioquia have "dozens of brothels" behind them? I didn't think the brothels were in that location.

And what kind of idiot uses a grenade in a street brawl? What happened to good old knives, guns, crowbars, brass knuckles, etc. A grenade is just crazy. . . Or is that Medellin being Medellin.

http://colombiareports.co/grenade-blast-next-medellin-museum-kills-1-injures-least-32/Yes, the report is accurate. As it states, CR's offices are located right up the street from where this took place. The guy knows the area very well.

Member #4244
07-06-14, 20:43
I have read on here that you can preschedule some meeting using Facebook. What kind of lines on Facebook do you use to see if the girl is a prepago or interested in meeting for some fun? Any code words? How do you usually set up a meet?It's pretty simple, man, especially if you are only interested in P4 P. First off if they even talk to you, then there is a good chance they are the kind of girl who is looking pay for many things with the same coin. Secondly, you should be able to tell from photos what they are all about, also if they have some multitude of gringo friends.

I would just come right out and ask. Say you want to meet them, tell them approximately when and ask how much. What is the point of dancing around? You're talking about this like it's a dope deal in the states. There is nothing illegal about prostitution in Colombia.

Manizales911
07-06-14, 21:12
also if they have some multitude of gringo friends.This is what I look for, if she has more than a couple of gringo friends she is P4 P,guaranteed. You will see the same gringos repeatedly also.

FoxesHunter
07-06-14, 22:43
4. Hostal Avatar (ex-Angeles de Fuego), Calle 58 (Av. Oriental) # 45 D-104. 3+ Chicas. Prices: 35 k 30 min. , 55 k hour. Tel: (57) (4) ____, Cell: 312 894 77 11. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10 am to 7 pm. , Sunday _ http://avatarmasajes.wix.com/avatar (#33 on Tung's Map.).Can you tell me more about Hostal Avatar?

Thanks

FoxesHunter
07-06-14, 22:49
Ok, thank you very much, FoxesHunter. But how did you get in touch with the first one? I do not know anyone, so it is hard to find friends, do you know what I mean?

Thanks again!

Shizzle78Shizzle78,

You have to find some names of the girls followed with Medellin. I have found a lot of girls.

ForceSteeler
07-07-14, 00:47
I'm going to Medellin next month. Can you guys rate the Casa's what are your favorites? Which one is the best and has the most beautiful women?

I'm a ass man, I'm more into the Brazilian booty type body's. Any recommendations?

===========================================

Greetings,

I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...

Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Member #4244
07-07-14, 03:51
This is what I look for, if she has more than a couple of gringo friends she is P4 P,guaranteed. You will see the same gringos repeatedly also.LOL, yeah man there is one guy (I won't name him but he lives in the Western United States) who is friends with seemingly every prepago I encounter. This motherfucker gets around. Luckily he has not met any of my non-pros. Yet.

Member #4244
07-07-14, 03:52
Can you tell me more about Hostal Avatar?

ThanksWhat do you want to know? It's just an MP. There have been a couple real dime pieces there, overall quality is pretty middle of the pack though IMO. The one stunner who was there for a while is gone, and it seems as though she changed her number / simcard. Que tristeza.

Member #4244
07-07-14, 03:58
re: forcesteeler.

the mps are all pretty close to each other with the exception of like loutron (way up in the hills), violeta campestre (copacabana), some rep001tered ones in bello (never been), energy (by stadium), blue room and perhaps some that i am missing. it sounds like a long list but it's less than 10% proportion to what is in the centro. get a map and start walking / cabbing. the quality varies and changes. for example aiffe at various times has been arguably the best casa going and right now it's trash. it's not the first time it's gone to shit. new life does a huge volume but that means mechanical service often and certainly the girls being running through. a lot of places have their moments and fade away. you just have to see what's available when you are there but you can cover a ton of ground in a short time. you could easily see 30 casas in a day if you felt so inclined.

you won't find too much of a theme as casas go, for example big booties or whatever. i guess some will cater to thinner or fatter, but overall they strive to have some variety. you're not going to stick your cock in every girl in there, just one or two, so better to go and see for yourself. even if i were to tell you every casa girl in medellin right now, they might all be gone by the time you arrive. the personnel in casas has more turnover than the new york islanders. getting pounded by some sweaty stranger for $10 is not exactly glamorous work.

Combo
07-07-14, 05:56
Is the Mansion the only place to Get a GFE? How is the Rotation at the Casas?

Do you see the same Casas Girls? Year after year? Or do they change after a few weeks / months?Absolutely no guarantee of GFE at the Mansion. Though, generally, you'll get a friendlier experience than you'd get at a MP. Which you should, as you're paying 150 K at the Mansion vs 30-40 K at the MP.

FoxesHunter
07-07-14, 09:06
What do you want to know? It's just an MP. There have been a couple real dime pieces there, overall quality is pretty middle of the pack though IMO. The one stunner who was there for a while is gone, and it seems as though she changed her number / simcard. Que tristeza.I'd like to know if it is a brothel or a casa. Is it possibile to take out a girl?

Hasideas Tao
07-07-14, 15:12
re: forcesteeler.

the mps are all pretty close to each other with the exception of like loutron (way up in the hills), violeta campestre (copacabana), some rep001tered ones in bello (never been),i have heard about casas in bello too. is there a map, list or any info about finding these spots?

PianoPlayer
07-08-14, 00:04
If you guys facebook search Casa Shlomi, you will find pictures of many mansion girls hanging out and partying there. I heard it's a hostel cater to Israeli Jews and they get to party and fuck the girls for free. Anyone actually check out this place personally? Why can't we setup something like for American gringos?If you can get a group of very fit 20-something gringos right out of the army and supply female guests with unlimited quantities of controlled substances and rave music, you too could set this up.

Hasideas Tao
07-08-14, 13:52
Went to this spot on Saturday. A decent lineup. I apologize since I am terrible with names, but I think my girls name was Sara or Sarita. Fair skin, full natural tits, about 5'5" without heels, soft demeanor, very proportioned healthy looking body. IMO, without speaking, she could have passed for a gringa. Session started slow with her leaving the room and returning for various things. Drinks I asked for, a towel, who the hell knows what else. Another thing. She makes me turn my cell phone face up in fear I am recording the session. Finally we got started and the kissing she promised was not even coming to close to happening so I just proceed since I was so attracted to her body. I was finally getting into it until suddenly she decides to just stop and says, you only have 10 minutes and I need 5 minutes to take a shower. I was like, huh? I was like, no problem, I only need 5 minutes and maybe we will continue for the hour. She says no, she doesn't want to do an hour. As this girl is grabbing my cock trying to jerk me off I am like, let's continue. She won't budge. Annoyed, I rinsed off, got dressed and left the room. I explained to the administrator what had happened. Although pleasant, she offered nothing, yet acting like she was giving me something. First she returns some change she owed me saying she is sorry for the problem. I thought she was giving me a refund but I quickly realized it was just my change from before I entered the room and bought beers for myself and the girl. She continues to listen and console me and explains that 5 minutes of the session is for the shower. (I kind of get it but I never have been faced with this issue before) asks if I want another girl. I say yes. She introduces me and I say fine. Then she asks to cancel the bill and I was like, Oh, I am starting all over again! I asked her, you're not going to give me a break? She says no that is not our policy. So I said, well for bad service, you should try to accommodate your clients with something. She said sorry. So I left. Weird games. I am bummed because there are a few doable girls there. In the spirit of understanding, I too have had awkward moments, acted weird and the wrong words have just come out of my mouth. So, hopefully their memory of my face will fade into the obscurity and I will return, wiser, on a better day.

Almotu
07-08-14, 18:10
H. Tao: Can you give the address of this spot since there are so many of the centro casas with sexy & fantasy in their names?

Vegas Jeff
07-08-14, 18:29
Then she asks to cancel the bill and I was like, Oh, I am starting all over again! I asked her, you're not going to give me a break? She says no that is not our policy. So I said, well for bad service, you should try to accommodate your clients with something. She said sorry. So I left. Weird games. I am bummed because there are a few doable girls there. In the spirit of understanding, I too have had awkward moments, acted weird and the wrong words have just come out of my mouth. So, hopefully their memory of my face will fade into the obscurity and I will return, wiser, on a better day.Hey my friend,

These situations happen on occasion to all of us. You get pissed off and can't find the balance. You feel like you need a discount or something and they won't do enough to satisfy you.

I had a friend one time take a girl to the room in an MP. Upon entering the room he had a disagreement with the girl and walked outside and asked for a refund. The boss said that he could not receive a refund but could pick another girl. My friend said that he didn't like any of the girls. The boss said sorry and the girls were teaming up against him while watching TV. My friend unplugged the TV, picked it up, and told the boss that if he didn't get his money back he was going to throw the TV through the front window. The boss relented and gave him the money. I have known this guy for a long time and had never seen him like this. He obvious hit a breaking point that day. As I said these situations can get the worst out of all of us.

Back to your situation. You have two options. If you don't care about this place, for one reason or another, don't go back. If you care, go back in to the boss and apologize. Tell her that you were having a shitty day, it wasn't her fault, and you lost your temper. Buy a 2 k soda, give her 5 k, and tell her to keep the change. Unless the boss is a total jerk, all should be forgiven.

Good luck.

Member #4394
07-08-14, 19:01
I am sure there are bad apples in other, or almost all, casas as well. Just talk to the girl before you choose. If she does not smile or is unfriendly, don't pick her. Also ask mamasan if the girl you like is carinosa.


H. Tao: Can you give the address of this spot since there are so many of the centro casas with sexy & fantasy in their names?.

Member #4394
07-08-14, 19:09
Not only in P4 P, but in any services and products consumers are not really protected in Colombia. Plus you see that so many people are dishonest and aggressive while the judicial and political systems are corrupt and inept. No wonder there is a support and demand for gangs, siccorios, and guys like Pablo Escobar.


Hey my friend,

These situations happen on occasion to all of us. You get pissed off and can't find the balance. You feel like you need a discount or something and they won't do enough to satisfy you.

I had a friend one time take a girl to the room in an MP. Upon entering the room he had a disagreement with the girl and walked outside and asked for a refund. The boss said that he could not receive a refund but could pick another girl. My friend said that he didn't like any of the girls. The boss said sorry and the girls were teaming up against him while watching TV. My friend unplugged the TV, picked it up, and told the boss that if he didn't get his money back he was going to throw the TV through the front window. The boss relented and gave him the money. I have known this guy for a long time and had never seen him like this. He obvious hit a breaking point that day. As I said these situations can get the worst out of all of us.

Back to your situation. You have two options. If you don't care about this place, for one reason or another, don't go back. If you care, go back in to the boss and apologize. Tell her that you were having a shitty day, it wasn't her fault, and you lost your temper. Buy a 2 k soda, give her 5 k, and tell her to keep the change. Unless the boss is a total jerk, all should be forgiven.

Good luck..

Aussie Greg
07-09-14, 00:36
Its not about busting anybody's balls, the hotel policy is.
If you are not staying with the hotel "no entry".
Not even if you have friends staying there, you can meet them down at Juan Valdes.
Now, the partners have invited friends over at curtain times but do not do it very often, I guess because there never there.
Now there are curtain exceptions, like if you have stayed with us before and wanted to stay but we do not have any rooms, you can come and hang.
Minimum night stay is 4 nights.

A. G


That is still their strict policy. I once went to drop off a package for a friend who was staying there and despite telling them I lived in MDE and I was just there to see him, they busted my balls about it. Ultimately they relented but I got the sense they were making an exception. I made it clear I wasn't there to talk to the girls also.

ForceSteeler
07-09-14, 01:22
Its not about busting anybody's balls, the hotel policy is.

If you are not staying with the hotel "no entry".

Not even if you have friends staying there, you can meet them down at Juan Valdes.

Now, the partners have invited friends over at certain times but do not do it very often, I guess because they're never there.

Now there are curtain exceptions, like if you have stayed with us before and wanted to stay but we do not have any rooms, you can come and hang.

Minimum night stay is 4 nights.

A. G.I can understand there policy most guys are cheap, and they will get a cheap room and go visit the mansion, The Reason why the mansion can get $100.00 a night is because that is where all the action is.

Rewsna
07-09-14, 02:57
This really happened a few hours ago. I met this hot chick on the corner of Calle 55 and Cr 50. I don't know why I didn't notice a dozen other girls around, a few of which were of questionable gender. But I sensed something was wrong, so as she was leading me to a hotel room around the block, I said, "Stop. " She turned around, and I asked her, "Are you really a woman?" She said yes. In the room, she took off her top and was about to start on a CBJ. Then I told her to take off her pants. She said that would cost extra. I told her I just want to see a little bit. She showed me her ass. Not good enough, "el frente por favor" Then she explained she was a travesti (transvestite), and how it shouldn't matter because she looks like a hot woman. She / He did. But I said my dick knows the difference, so no way. Didn't want anything bad to happen (I've heard stories), so I said no thank you and went on my way, with 35 k lost (25 k +10 k for room). Before I left, I said, "you told me you were a woman. You think you're a woman?" She lifted her arms and smiled big, saying, I am a woman!

Live and learn.

Member #4244
07-09-14, 05:28
Its not about busting anybody's balls, the hotel policy is.
If you are not staying with the hotel "no entry".
Not even if you have friends staying there, you can meet them down at Juan Valdes.
Now, the partners have invited friends over at curtain times but do not do it very often, I guess because there never there.
Now there are curtain exceptions, like if you have stayed with us before and wanted to stay but we do not have any rooms, you can come and hang.
Minimum night stay is 4 nights.

A. G.To be clear, "busting balls" was used colloquially. I am hardly complaining. I would maintain the same policy if I were in your position.

Member #4244
07-09-14, 05:32
I have heard about casas in Bello too. Is there a map, list or any info about finding these spots?No, someone made mention of a new one in a report that sounded cool but they offered not even a hint as to the location as I remember. I have seen some small strip bars over by the night clubs that I imagine have girls, but I was on a date and really, really wasted. The night clubs I am sure have girls but they also have some local duros as the places start to fill up.

I would say your best bet is to make a like-minded friend in Bello, a local. The kind of guy who would take you to the Hilton Bar and shit like that in the Centro, a dude who lives there and frequents the joints. A half bottle of rum will make you a friend quickly.

Member #4244
07-09-14, 05:34
I'd like to know if it is a brothel or a casa. Is it possibile to take out a girl?You would have to make arrangements with the girl, it's not the kind of place that would charge you a multa (takeout fee), they want the girls there for their shift. But of course often they can leave early or come when they have time off or whatever. I did hear there was a nice little gem there, but I have not been to visit her.

Member #4394
07-09-14, 06:18
For Ass: Sexi, Sexi Fantasia2, and New Life. For looks: Energy


I'm going to Medellin next month. Can you guys rate the Casa's what are your favorites? Which one is the best and has the most beautiful women?

I'm a ass man, I'm more into the Brazilian booty type body's. Any recommendations?

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Greetings,

I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...

Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!.

Cachupo
07-09-14, 23:10
Hi all,

Make long story short, just bougt my ticket to Medellin. Leaving in 2 days. I read through 10 pages of this forum as well as the list / hotels.

Coming back from a deployment, I decided to go to Colombia for my post deployment leave. Last minute sort of thing. Have fun, and meet some girls which I sorely missed while deployed.

I'm fluent in Spanish, relatively young (40). Based on my limited research, I was going to rent an apt in poblado region. Near parque lleras for a week. I haven't reserved it yet.

I'm looking to meet nice looking girls. I don't mind going out and meeting girls at bars / clubs, but my experience with latinas (at least in Peru / Ecuador) is that they form this little circle when out with friends, and it's kinda of a challenge to break in especially if you're flying solo. I don't know anyone in Medellin, so in that respect meeting nonpros could be a challenge as they may see me differently. So I don't mind prepagos / prostitutes. And price isn't a huge factor. You save a lot of money while deployed and stuck on a base.

Sounds like there isn't much of that in Poblado region. Poblado looks like an upscale place with cafes, restaurants etc. Which is cool and great place to decompress. Based on what I read, I will need to take a taxi (or metro train. Is that safe?) to the casas up north in el centro. If lucky, I can bring a girl back to my apt. Sounds like Energy and some of the other places in casa centro is the place to hit. Right?

ALso escorts online, although pricier. But sounds like they make house calls.

I obviously don't have time to hit internet dating sites.

Are there SW around Poblado?

Where in el centro are most SW? I'm not interested in depressing glue snifers or jailbait. My experience in Lima with SW was actually kinda fun. Adrenaline rush and sleezy, which I like as a change in pace. Ideally I would like a safe place near SW, and not far from centro casas.

Any recommendations for a place like that?

I appreciate any input.

Sorry for the rush. As I said, I fly out in a couple days and this was last minute.

P.S.

I appreciate all your help in January (pre-deployment, I went to Puerto Plata and had a blast!) I promise to upload pics / story about DR and Medellin when I get back.

Member #4394
07-09-14, 23:19
The reason is that many gringos do not want to speak, or learn, basic Spanish even in Spanish-speaking countries, and they do not have knowledge or ability to plan and organize the actions by themselves.


The Reason why the mansion can get $100.00 a night is because that is where all the action is..

Sexmetv
07-10-14, 00:07
If you can get a group of very fit 20-something gringos right out of the army and supply female guests with unlimited quantities of controlled substances and rave music, you too could set this up.I suspect even without the fit bodies, the controlled substances and the rave music might get you there with the female guests.

Member #4394
07-10-14, 00:30
In stead of poblado, Stay at alcaravan hotel or Macedonia hotel in Mayorista, which is a safe SW area. You can bring the SW girls there to your hotel. Don't think about bringing casa girls to your place. Casa girls usually want to stay at home in the night. For daytime casas, check Energy and New Life. Good luck.

Is


Hi all,

Make long story short, just bougt my ticket to Medellin. Leaving in 2 days. I read through 10 pages of this forum as well as the list / k..

Bart1
07-10-14, 00:44
Hi all,

Make long story short, just bougt my ticket to Medellin. Leaving in 2 days. I read through 10 pages of this forum as well as the list / hotels.

Coming back from a deployment, I decided to go to Colombia for my post deployment leave. Last minute sort of thing. Have fun, and meet some girls which I sorely missed while deployed.

I'm fluent in Spanish, relatively young (40). Based on my limited research, I was going to rent an apt in poblado region. Near parque lleras for a week. I haven't reserved it yet.

I'm looking to meet nice looking girls. I don't mind going out and meeting girls at bars / clubs, but my experience with latinas (at least in Peru / Ecuador) is that they form this little circle when out with friends, and it's kinda of a challenge to break in especially if you're flying solo. I don't know anyone in Medellin, so in that respect meeting nonpros could be a challenge as they may see me differently. So I don't mind prepagos / prostitutes. And price isn't a huge factor. You save a lot of money while deployed and stuck on a base.

Sounds like there isn't much of that in Poblado region. Poblado looks like an upscale place with cafes, restaurants etc. Which is cool and great place to decompress. Based on what I read, I will need to take a taxi (or metro train. Is that safe?) to the casas up north in el centro. If lucky, I can bring a girl back to my apt. Sounds like Energy and some of the other places in casa centro is the place to hit. Right?

ALso escorts online, although pricier. But sounds like they make house calls.

I obviously don't have time to hit internet dating sites.

Are there SW around Poblado?

Where in el centro are most SW? I'm not interested in depressing glue snifers or jailbait. My experience in Lima with SW was actually kinda fun. Adrenaline rush and sleezy, which I like as a change in pace. Ideally I would like a safe place near SW, and not far from centro casas.

Any recommendations for a place like that?

I appreciate any input.

Sorry for the rush. As I said, I fly out in a couple days and this was last minute.

P.S.

I appreciate all your help in January (pre-deployment, I went to Puerto Plata and had a blast!) I promise to upload pics / story about DR and Medellin when I get back.It is now July and you promise to upload fotos and a write a story about your trip to DR in January when you return from Medellin, please give me a break, by the way I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.

Cachupo
07-10-14, 01:05
It is now July and you promise to upload fotos and a write a story about your trip to DR in January when you return from Medellin, please give me a break, by the way I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.Yeah I promise. Kinda hard to upload pics when you have different priorities. Like staying alive in a hostile land.

Thanks for the 411 on Mayorista. I checked the hotels, definitely cheaper. Based on my limited research sounds like you can either stay at those hotels. Or settle down HQ somewhere else and just hop on a taxi to mayorista and go for the short term hotels.

On average, is action in Mayorista (SW / MP) comparable to Casa centro? Girls better than average? I been to places where SW are gems. And places where they are repulsive and you run as far as possible.

Any entertainment or stuff to do in Mayorista region? And I imagine its OK safe as long as you use common sense?

Member #4287
07-10-14, 02:01
If you guys facebook search Casa Shlomi, you will find pictures of many mansion girls hanging out and partying there. I heard it's a hostel cater to Israeli Jews and they get to party and fuck the girls for free. Anyone actually check out this place personally? Why can't we setup something like for American gringos?It's not a hostel. More like a free hotel for Israeli soldiers that just got out of the army. The Israeli government pays for 6 months of RNR after they complete their two year mandatory stint in the army.

You can't check it out because only the Israelis are invited along with the women they invite. Got invited to a club party by a mansion girl and a lot of the Israeli guys were there. They pretty much just ignored me. Girl told me later that they didn't like it that she invited me. They just keep to themselves and don't mingle with Colombian men as well.

Just can't see American guys all pitching in to throw a big party and waiting to see who wants to fuck them for free. Jajaja.

Not much different than going to any club and hitting on women. Sometimes you get laid sometimes you don't and most of the guys I have met in Medellin are there for so short a time that they are almost all going for the sure thing $$.

Aussie Greg
07-10-14, 02:22
Just got back from Panama, I like it up there, there's a higher class of monger, well a richer one.

Given the fact that the girls are double and three times as much as Medellin, it keeps out the cheep riff, raff that's on this board.

A. G

Vitrea
07-10-14, 02:38
Just got back from Panama, I like it up there, there's a higher class of monger, well a richer one.

Given the fact that the girls are double and three times as much as Medellin, it keeps out the cheep riff, raff that's on this board.

A. G.Panama city can be fun and I agree but it is a bit more hassle in Panama though....less organized I think.

Vitrea
07-10-14, 02:49
It is now July and you promise to upload fotos and a write a story about your trip to DR in January when you return from Medellin, please give me a break, by the way I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.Well said. These kind of posts irritate me as well.

Rewsna
07-10-14, 03:12
Yeah, not much in Poblado, including SWs.

For SW in Centro, start at the Iglesia Veracruz and head west. You'll start seeing lots of SW as you go around the block and end up at the Botero Plaza. But also sprinkled with sniffers and jailbait.

Just 1 block north, on Calle 53, you should also see plenty of SW between Cundamarca and Cucuta.


Hi all,

Sounds like there isn't much of that in Poblado region. Poblado looks like an upscale place with cafes, restaurants etc. Which is cool and great place to decompress. Based on what I read, I will need to take a taxi (or metro train. Is that safe?) to the casas up north in el centro. If lucky, I can bring a girl back to my apt. Sounds like Energy and some of the other places in casa centro is the place to hit. Right?

Where in el centro are most SW? I'm not interested in depressing glue snifers or jailbait. My experience in Lima with SW was actually kinda fun. Adrenaline rush and sleezy, which I like as a change in pace. Ideally I would like a safe place near SW, and not far from centro casas.

Sorry for the rush. As I said, I fly out in a couple days and this was last minute.

P.S.

I appreciate all your help in January (pre-deployment, I went to Puerto Plata and had a blast!) I promise to upload pics / story about DR and Medellin when I get back.

FoxesHunter
07-10-14, 16:25
Yeah, not much in Poblado, including SWs.

For SW in Centro, start at the Iglesia Veracruz and head west. You'll start seeing lots of SW as you go around the block and end up at the Botero Plaza. But also sprinkled with sniffers and jailbait.

Just 1 block north, on Calle 53, you should also see plenty of SW between Cundamarca and Cucuta.At what hour are SWs on these street? I think it is possible to reach those places with a taxi only for dangerousness of those places. What a pity!

World Travel 69
07-10-14, 17:07
To get your bearings on the layout of the city, I suggest taking the Turibus Tour. It starts at the Parque Poblado at 9 am and 1 pm. It last around three hours. Tel: 371 50 54. www.turibuscolombia.com.

You can still stay in Poblado and take the bus, metro or taxi anywhere you want to go. Mayorista is down the hill from there. The metro is great, but can get crowded. Most of the action is in the Centro area.

See map.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&authuser=0&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=206810231178282017429.000494779e6b2fb07f4d4&dg=feature

The SWs in the 53rds are out in the day time. You can walk around with no problem. Just be careful at night.


Yeah I promise. Kinda hard to upload pics when you have different priorities. Like staying alive in a hostile land...

Cachupo
07-10-14, 18:10
To get your bearings on the layout of the city, I suggest taking the Turibus Tour. It starts at the Parque Poblado at 9 am and 1 pm. It last around three hours. Tel: 371 50 54. www.turibuscolombia.com.

You can still stay in Poblado and take the bus, metro or taxi anywhere you want to go. Mayorista is down the hill from there. The metro is great, but can get crowded. Most of the action is in the Centro area.

See Matt's map.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&authuser=0&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=206810231178282017429.000494779e6b2fb07f4d4&dg=feature

The SWs in the 53rds are out in the day time. You can walk around with no problem. Just be careful at night.Hey thanks for the INtel.

I fly out tomorrow afternoon from DC and get to Medellin that evening.

I think I'm going to stick with Poblado, found a decent apt right near the cafes, restaurants.

Typically how much is a taxi to one of the centro casas or a drive around the area with the SW?

I figured I may even just hit Mayorista for a day or 2 and just get one of those love hotel night deals for a change of pace. Since its pretty cheap.

Thank you

BayBoy
07-10-14, 19:29
Yeah, not much in Poblado, including SWs.

For SW in Centro, start at the Iglesia Veracruz and head west. You'll start seeing lots of SW as you go around the block and end up at the Botero Plaza. But also sprinkled with sniffers and jailbait.

Just 1 block north, on Calle 53, you should also see plenty of SW between Cundamarca and Cucuta.For the record, there's streetwalkers in those areas 24/7, the action never stops. But my rule when I'd go to those areas, was to be out of there by 8 pm for safety purposes. I found it to be safe in the daytime though, no problems.

Cachupo
07-10-14, 19:56
hey,

so i'm kinda rushing and getting my trip ready.

you guys probably know this already. never dawned on me. but certain video chat web sites which i guess i can't mention on here. are packed with colombian girls. mostly medellin.

i got 4 numbers in 20 minutes. and a strip show. kinda nice to know what expect. hear their voice. exchanged emails / contacts / what's up. and 2 of them are so very hot. one is a single mom and is asking me about what we are going to do all week. money was never discussed. i'm sure it wil be brought up. either in form of dinner / money / dancing / drinks. whatever. but they are hot! man. fuck that, i'm moving to medellin.

you guys know that. but i figure i throw that out there. all legit, none ****.

so battle plan is staying in el poblado. hook up with girls i met online. or nonpros i see around the area. with periodic excursions to mayoritsa / centro casas. and a cautious recon of centro street 53.

FoxesHunter
07-10-14, 20:17
For the record, there's streetwalkers in those areas 24/7, the action never stops. But my rule when I'd go to those areas, was to be out of there by 8 pm for safety purposes. I found it to be safe in the daytime though, no problems.Where is the area 24/7 precisely?

Member #4394
07-10-14, 20:35
The area is a nest of punks and professional thieves. All gringos I know got robbed. Usually 5-10 kids attack a guy from his back, and nobody stop them.


For the record, there's streetwalkers in those areas 24/7, the action never stops. But my rule when I'd go to those areas, was to be out of there by 8 pm for safety purposes. I found it to be safe in the daytime though, no problems..

Member #4244
07-11-14, 02:10
The SWs are at calle 30,33 and 40 . Gets dicier as the numbers increase. 30 you will find cleaner girls, 33 you will find a mix of "healthy" ones and glue huffers, 40 is the wild west. There are some gems to be found, but don't be surprised if on any given night it is dead.

The SWs at the bottom of Maracaibo and going across like Cra 50 or whatever, you can find them in the day, many on Sundays. I have never partaken. At night that area may have SWs, I have no idea. There are some strip bars (Conejas being the biggest) but most of them have lousy facilities and maybe two doable girls if you are lucky.

Member #4244
07-11-14, 02:12
Just got back from Panama, I like it up there, there's a higher class of monger, well a richer one.

Given the fact that the girls are double and three times as much as Medellin, it keeps out the cheep riff, raff that's on this board.

A. G.

Perhaps you should have considered staying. I kid, I kid.

BayBoy
07-11-14, 03:31
To be more specific about the streetwalker areas: start at Iglesia Vera Cruz on the Plaza (Cr. 52), go along the side of the iglesia to (CL 51) down to (Cr 53) Cundinamarca. Right along Cundinamarca. Go a block to DeGreiff (CL 53) turn left one block to Cucuta. Can't miss the action.

As I and others have said before, its not safe around there at night, don't recommend going there then.

Hasideas Tao
07-11-14, 03:36
Well, his little phrase at the end one might call a "tell" on the state of mind.


Perhaps you should have considered staying. I kid, I kid.

Kukulkan
07-11-14, 16:45
Well, his little phrase at the end one might call a "tell" on the state of mind.The first one thousand pages.

Hat off, Congrats.

Kukulkan

Aussie Greg
07-11-14, 22:08
Wilt,

No, too hot and humid!

I live in Medellin because of the weather but I do have Panama residency.

A. G


Perhaps you should have considered staying. I kid, I kid.

Hawk452
07-11-14, 22:58
I finally made it to Medellin, I didn't have any problems in the airport only line I waited in was for the cambio. Love all the round about driving here. Got my sim card for my phone, got some snacks for when the ladies come over. Now it is time for the adventure to begin. Curious if any one wants to meet up? I am staying in Parque LLeras, is it true there is a lot of SW activity here?

Vegas Jeff
07-12-14, 01:10
Wilt,

No, too hot and humid!

I live in Medellin because of the weather but I do have Panama residency !!

A. G.For good connected sex it is important to find the girls that return to their house at night instead of sleeping in a short term hotel.

The girls in Panama are not very pretty. Too many pretty girls sleeping in hotels.

The girls in Medellin are stunning. Many are sweet. All are complicated.

Medellin is the YMMV city. Be charming and make connections.

Good luck to all.

Member #4287
07-12-14, 04:43
I am staying in Parque LLeras, is it true there is a lot of SW activity here?No SW activity in the Parque LLeras area.

Turgid
07-12-14, 16:27
Touched down in Medellin and hit the ground running. For the first time took the bus from the airport (8,600 COP), no problema. Also for the first time not staying in Plobado, staying at a nice hotel near Estadio. Having recently spent some time in Santo Domingo it is easy to compare the two cities:

Climate: Medellin. I don't think anyone will disagree with the fact that the city of eternal spring has the better climate. Much cooler.

Chicas: Medellin. Regarding which country has the hotter women this is subjective and I would not argue with anyone who disagrees with me on this but for me MDE has the more beautiful women. However, no one can argue with the fact that MDE bowls over SDQ for sheer numbers. MDE is a girl watchers paradise. They are all over the place. I have seen some ridiculously hot women here.

Food: Medellin. I would not go into detail here as this could be subjective but I prefer the fare in MDE. I have no problem getting what I want here. Good western food. I also like Colombian food.

Cost: Medellin. You get much better value for money here. Not only for chicas but for everything else. I went with a chica at New Life yesterday for half an hour, it cost me 40,000 COP. She was a solid 7. There is nowhere else on the planet you can get a woman of that quality for US $20. From my calculations my trip to MDE overall would be cheaper inclusive of airfare.

Transport: Medellin. All taxis are metered and ubiquitous. Much cheaper than SDQ and always available. Also there is the metro.

Non pro activities: Medellin. Obviously neither city can be compared to the US but I usually can indulge in more non pro leisure activities here than in SDQ.

Beach: Santo Domingo.

Manizales911
07-12-14, 17:41
Beach: Santo Domingo.There is no beach in Santo Domingo.

Shamester
07-12-14, 22:53
There is no beach in Santo Domingo.SDQ has a trashy Malecon.

BrasilSoccer0
07-13-14, 01:54
Glad you made it to Medellin. I hope your Spanish is decent. Not necessarily perfect!

To answer your question about street working girls in parque lleras: absolutely yes! You can find them walking all over the park. You see them in groups coming out of a taxi or even from the metro.

These aren't your typical SW girls! They look normal to you but as soon as they smile. Aha you approach them and ask them to accompany you. Nothing to be shy about.

If you find one and still aren't sure if she is interested in P4 p or is just being polite and nice to tourists. Ask her where is she from and if the answer is not "El Poblado" 75% semi-pro and if she answer any of the comunas like: aranjuez, manrique, campo Valdez, or anything you reach by metro cable then she is 100% pro or semi-pro.

Just gave you a priceless info you probably won't see from rtft. Now go have fun hunting in parque lleras and tell us how did it go.

Good luck.


I finally made it to Medellin, I didn't have any problems in the airport only line I waited in was for the cambio. Love all the round about driving here. Got my sim card for my phone, got some snacks for when the ladies come over. Now it is time for the adventure to begin. Curious if any one wants to meet up? I am staying in Parque LLeras, is it true there is a lot of SW activity here?

Sun Devil
07-13-14, 05:02
Here is a belated report of a trip I took at the beginning of June with two buddies from school. I landed in the airport from Ft. Lauderdale via Jet Blue. One buddy had taken a flight from Miami International and was waiting for me in the airport. We waited for the third one until his flight arrived at 10 pm. We took a taxi and registered at Estelar Blue Hotel. Bad move. They charged 30 bucks to let a girl in after 21:30, free before then. After taking a shower, we went to San Diego strip club. This place has gone downhill since the last time I was here. Girls were not as good looking, so we decided to go to Liquid Lounge.

The place had only 2 girls, which was on a Wednesday night. The facility was nice and pimped. Music was house, so it was a nice place, but not enough girls. We then went to La Isla. Girls were better looking than San Diego. Took a girl in the back named Sandra. Cost was 225 mille pesos. Girl had a nice personality and body. Not a clock watcher and did not rush me. Afterwards, went back to the main area. Met the bald bartender that used to work at Fase Dos. My buddies had made an arrangement to bring 3 girls back to the hotel room after their shift had ended, since it was around 4 am. We met them at Estelar Blue's lobby and that's when we realized that the fee was $30 for a girl to stay overnight, or at least until the morning. We brought them into the room. The girls cost 300 mill pesos each. This was our first night, and being really horny after a semester of graduate school, we decided to pay them. Not having any condoms, we called the front desk to tell them to have one of their employees buy condoms and viagras from a pharmacy.

In the meantime, we opened a bottle of rum and started drinking. The viagras and condoms were then delivered by the Estelar Blue employee and the orgy started. It was cool hearing all three girls moaning at the same time. The girls stayed until 8 am and a buddy and I walked them out from the hotel lobby to Poblado Avenue so that they can grab a taxi. Afterwards, he and I ate the complimentary breakfast at the hotel.

Vitrea
07-13-14, 07:53
Here is a belated report of a trip I took at the beginning of June with two buddies from school. I landed in the airport from Ft. Lauderdale via Jet Blue. One buddy had taken a flight from Miami International and was waiting for me in the airport. We waited for the third one until his flight arrived at 10 pm. We took a taxi and registered at Estelar Blue Hotel. Bad move. They charged 30 bucks to let a girl in after 21:30, free before then. After taking a shower, we went to San Diego strip club. This place has gone downhill since the last time I was here. Girls were not as good looking, so we decided to go to Liquid Lounge.

The place had only 2 girls, which was on a Wednesday night. The facility was nice and pimped. Music was house, so it was a nice place, but not enough girls. We then went to La Isla. Girls were better looking than San Diego. Took a girl in the back named Sandra. Cost was 225 mille pesos. Girl had a nice personality and body. Not a clock watcher and did not rush me. Afterwards, went back to the main area. Met the bald bartender that used to work at Fase Dos. My buddies had made an arrangement to bring 3 girls back to the hotel room after their shift had ended, since it was around 4 am. We met them at Estelar Blue's lobby and that's when we realized that the fee was $30 for a girl to stay overnight, or at least until the morning. We brought them into the room. The girls cost 300 mill pesos each. This was our first night, and being really horny after a semester of graduate school, we decided to pay them. Not having any condoms, we called the front desk to tell them to have one of their employees buy condoms and viagras from a pharmacy.

In the meantime, we opened a bottle of rum and started drinking. The viagras and condoms were then delivered by the Estelar Blue employee and the orgy started. It was cool hearing all three girls moaning at the same time. The girls stayed until 8 am and a buddy and I walked them out from the hotel lobby to Poblado Avenue so that they can grab a taxi. Afterwards, he and I ate the complimentary breakfast at the hotel.Nice report.

Why 225 mil to take a girl to the room in La Isla? Couple of months ago it was 180 mil for 45 minutes.

They found Viagra at 4 AM? Resourceful hotel employee. Ha ha.

ForceSteeler
07-13-14, 14:07
Hey guys,

I just landed in Medellin and wanted to give you guys my first impressions. Beautiful city with some of the most beautiful women on earth. I don't know what they But in the water but, these women are hot. Also the people are very nice and friendly, Some of the most friendliest people I have ever met in my life. As for the crime, I never felt like I was in danger one bit. The American Propaganda Machine will only show you the bad side and have you believe Medellin is a dangerous place. Too me it's a safe and very clean city. One thing about Medellin is that you hardly see no gringos at all. I guess alot of gringos are scared of coming to Columbia which is a good thing.

Because everything is cheap (The food and women). You can fuck some hot 8 or 9's for $20.00! At some of the Casas.

Now lets talk about the women, I fucked like 4 girls so far. Some of the Best GFE I ever had. Colombian women are very charming, and easy to talk too.

You can tell they have not been hardened by the typical Gringo's. Coming to here is like going to Brazil in the 90's.

Everything was cheap until the typical American gringo and the 1 week millionaires destroyed everything. Having sex with hot women for $20! Amazing!

I will give you guys a more detail report soon. PM if you have any questions!

Almotu
07-13-14, 16:01
...
In the meantime, we opened a bottle of rum and started drinking. The viagras and condoms were then delivered by the Estelar Blue employee and the orgy started. It was cool hearing all three girls moaning at the same time. The girls stayed until 8 am and a buddy and I walked them out from the hotel lobby to Poblado Avenue so that they can grab a taxi. Afterwards, he and I ate the complimentary breakfast at the hotel.Sounds like a scenario for a porn film. For 300 K each girl were you able to switch partners and fuck them all, round robin style? That would be a night to remember!

Orgasmico
07-13-14, 16:14
One thing about Medellin is that you hardly see no gringos at all. I guess alot of gringos are scared of coming to Columbia which is a good thing.
These two sentences say so many things on so many different levels.

WorldWideScout
07-13-14, 16:23
WOW those SWs are out of shape! For safety, it appears that Poblado is the only place to stay, but it's a good question about taking public transportation to this area from there. Is it safe? There must be SWs and affordable casas elsewhere right? A list would be great with prices, can't seem to find one (but perhaps I'm not combing back far enough in the forum posts).

I also read that there are SWs in Parque Lleras, they're just disguised as civilians. If that's true, I wonder what they charge?


Yeah, not much in Poblado, including SWs.

For SW in Centro, start at the Iglesia Veracruz and head west. You'll start seeing lots of SW as you go around the block and end up at the Botero Plaza. But also sprinkled with sniffers and jailbait.

Just 1 block north, on Calle 53, you should also see plenty of SW between Cundamarca and Cucuta.

WorldWideScout
07-13-14, 16:25
We'd love to know which casas you're at to get the 8 or 9's for $20.00.


Hey guys,

I just landed in Medellin and wanted to give you guys my first impressions. Beautiful city with some of the most beautiful women on earth. I don't know what they But in the water but, these women are hot. Also the people are very nice and friendly, Some of the most friendliest people I have ever met in my life. As for the crime, I never felt like I was in danger one bit. The American Propaganda Machine will only show you the bad side and have you believe Medellin is a dangerous place. Too me it's a safe and very clean city. One thing about Medellin is that you hardly see no gringos at all. I guess alot of gringos are scared of coming to Columbia which is a good thing.

Because everything is cheap (The food and women). You can fuck some hot 8 or 9's for $20.00! At some of the Casas.

Now lets talk about the women, I fucked like 4 girls so far. Some of the Best GFE I ever had. Colombian women are very charming, and easy to talk too.

You can tell they have not been hardened by the typical Gringo's. Coming to here is like going to Brazil in the 90's.

Everything was cheap until the typical American gringo and the 1 week millionaires destroyed everything. Having sex with hot women for $20! Amazing!

I will give you guys a more detail report soon. PM if you have any questions!

Vegas Jeff
07-13-14, 16:29
Hey guys,

I just landed in Medellin and wanted to give you guys my first impressions.Nice report.

There is a learning curve in Medellin and it will take you at least a few trips to get your feet firmly planted on the ground. It looks like you are off to a good start and making connections.

Continue to be smart and hit the usual spots. Drifting off the path too far will slow down your learning curve, and leave you confused, so stay on the path.

Make connections daily with the culture. Don't hit on most of the girls that you meet and treat them as people and not sex objects. If you do this it will increase your connections with the working girls.

As Rickers says, keep trucking and continue to report. Good luck.

Vitrea
07-13-14, 19:09
WOW those SWs are out of shape! For safety, it appears that Poblado is the only place to stay, but it's a good question about taking public transportation to this area from there. Is it safe? There must be SWs and affordable casas elsewhere right? A list would be great with prices, can't seem to find one (but perhaps I'm not combing back far enough in the forum posts).

I also read that there are SWs in Parque Lleras, they're just disguised as civilians. If that's true, I wonder what they charge?Yes you do need to read further back on this thread. Read the Medellin lists thread also, especially for casa info. Some guys were getting tired of the silly off topic discussions that tend to happen on this this thread and started posting reports over there (not me).

For SWs is Parque Lleras read Brazilsoccer0's post 5 posts down. I agree with him but know that you need an A game with charming personality. They come in small groups and helps to have a wingman with you. You would end up buying drinks for her girl friends and some nights will be a bust. The key word in BS0's post is semi pro. By definition, P4 P is not guaranteed with a semi pro as she will have to choose you also. It can be a blast of fun if you can score. A lot depends on your skill set, personality, language and most importantly...; Money.

Member #4394
07-13-14, 20:08
Many members state that the girls in Medellin are beautiful and attractive.

I have a mixed feeling about it.

1) They are not bad looking, and a few of them look gorgeous. But in any countries, there will be some beautiful ladies. Probably, this is a matter of taste.

2) In Colombia, and in SA generally, there are very few girls who are sophisticated and good at conversations. In comparison to the girls in OECD countries, Very small percentage of the girls know politics, economy, art, history, etc. Also, very small percentage of the girls are good athletes. They may be attractive to old mongers for short time actions, but they could be pretty boring partners for serious date.

3) I am not saying that there is no single educated woman in medellin. I am saying that the proportion is smaller in medellin in comparison to the developed countries.

4) For pros, there is no or few courtesan-type pros, who can provide sophisticated and cultured amusement in Medellin. In contrast to Aussie Greg's assumption, my definition of "high class monger" is a gentleman who socialize with, and often support, refined courtesans. The guys who are buying sexual service from pros, who are not really refined, are not high class mongers regardless of the price of the girls.

Combo
07-13-14, 20:55
Many members state that the girls in Medellin are beautiful and attractive.

I have a mixed feeling about it.

1) They are not bad looking, and a few of them look gorgeous. But in any countries, there will be some beautiful ladies. Probably, this is a matter of taste.

2) In Colombia, and in SA generally, there are very few girls who are sophisticated and good at conversations. In comparison to the girls in OECD countries, Very small percentage of the girls know politics, economy, art, history, etc. Also, very small percentage of the girls are good athletes. They may be attractive to old mongers for short time actions, but they could be pretty boring partners for serious date.

3) I am not saying that there is no single educated woman in medellin. I am saying that the proportion is smaller in medellin in comparison to the developed countries.

4) For pros, there is no or few courtesan-type pros, who can provide sophisticated and cultured amusement in Medellin. In contrast to Aussie Greg's assumption, my definition of "high class monger" is a gentleman who socialize with, and often support, courtesans. The guys who are buying sexual service from pros, who are not really refined, are not high class mongers regardless of the price of the girls.Who cares about most of this?

IMO, the women in MDE are the most facially-beautiful women I've seen anywhere except possibly Sao Paulo. However, for great natural bodies, I'd put many other places ahead. Of course, if one doesn't mind silicone / surgical enhancement, you'll love the bodies as well as the faces in MDE.

There are actually plenty of well-educated / cultured women in MDE. I have met a few. It's just that you won't find them at New Life or the Mansion or Fase Dos. But you need language skill and more importantly, time, to develop something with these Paisas.

Member #4394
07-13-14, 21:03
Professional, impersonal, statistical studies of the "entire" population of MDE suggest a contrary. Good post, thank you.




There are actually plenty of well-educated / cultured women in MDE. I have met a few. ..

Orgasmico
07-13-14, 21:17
Who cares about most of this?
There was a lot of dubious stuff in his post.

"In SA generally, there are very few girls who are sophisticated and good at conversations. In comparison to the girls in OECD countries, Very small percentage of the girls know politics, economy, art, history, etc. Also, very small percentage of the girls are good athletes. They may be attractive to old mongers for short time actions, but they could be pretty boring partners for serious date."

A country like Chile, for instance, is both in SA AND also an OECD country.

I don't think most guys come to a monger site to find foreign women that want to discuss politics. The people are passionate about things like politics. There is a lot of art and culture in Colombia. Culturally, if you like things like Salsa music you can relate to the people. Anyone that has an ethnocentric view of Colombia, should stay home and chat politics with the feminist nazis in their country.

Women in Colombia know their role. Go to the gym or walk along Avenida Poblado on a Sunday, if you want to see fit chicas. I don't know the percentage that have a regular exercise regimens, but there are a lot of fat women in the USA, a country where people tend to have more money and resources to engage in such regiments. Also, not every monger is a great physical specimen. As far as boring partners for a "serious date," boring people usually tend to get bored.

Member #4394
07-13-14, 21:37
But USA women may not be a good standard for this. Again, very good post. Thank you.


There was a lot of dubious stuff in his post.

"In SA generally, there are very few girls who are sophisticated and good at conversations. In comparison to the girls in OECD countries, Very small percentage of the girls know politics, economy, art, history, etc. Also, very small percentage of the girls are good athletes. They may be attractive to old mongers for short time actions, but they could be pretty boring partners for serious date."

A country like Chile, for instance, is both in SA AND also an OECD country.

I don't think most guys come to a monger site to find foreign women that want to discuss politics. The people are passionate about things like politics. There is a lot of art and culture in Colombia. Culturally, if you like things like Salsa music you can relate to the people. Anyone that has an ethnocentric view of Colombia, should stay home and chat politics with the feminist nazis in their country.

Women in Colombia know their role. Go to the gym or walk along Avenida Poblado on a Sunday, if you want to see fit chicas. I don't know the percentage that have a regular exercise regimens, but there are a lot of fat women in the USA, a country where people tend to have more money and resources to engage in such regiments. Also, not every monger is a great physical specimen. As far as boring partners for a "serious date," boring people usually tend to get bored..

Member #4287
07-13-14, 23:29
For SWs is Parque Lleras read Brazilsoccer0's post 5 posts down. I agree with him but know that you need an A game with charming personality. They come in small groups and helps to have a wingman with you. You would end up buying drinks for her girl friends and some nights will be a bust. The key word in BS0's post is semi pro. By definition, P4 P is not guaranteed with a semi pro as she will have to choose you also. It can be a blast of fun if you can score. A lot depends on your skill set, personality, language and most importantly...; Money.

The original poster asked if it was true that there where SW's in Parque Lleras. I said "NO" thinking the guy was asking about Street Walkers. Brazilsoccoreo replies that Parque Lleras is full of street workers (whatever that is) and then goes on to describe how someone would go on to proposition women in the Park. Jajaja.

Now you are telling guys that you need an A game with charming personality to score women at Parque Lleras. Which is more accurate but certainly doesn't describe a situation where women came there looking to exchange sex for money.

Now if someone wants to randomly proposition women in the street I would look at the list of barrios that Brazilsoccero listed in his post and go there not to Parque Lleras.

Ricker
07-13-14, 23:57
For SWs is Parque Lleras read Brazilsoccer0's post 5 posts down. I agree with him but know that you need an A game with charming personality.That's funny, really.

Now you're going to have more gringos in Medellin, and specifically Parque Lleras looking stupid.

Maybe a dude like Brazilsoccer has the eye to spot and the personality to talk PFP in Lleras, however, really it's not good advice to brag and send guys there looking for PFP, especially SW type.

Hell yes, head to Lleras, meet girls, schmooze away, pick a Paisa up if ya can, but don't just don't propose PFP like it's the norm, unless you don't mind offending.

The actual SW's, as we all know, hang in el Centro, San Diego area, the Mayo.

Have fun!

Turgid
07-14-14, 00:26
"They are not bad looking, and a few of them look gorgeous. But in any countries, there will be some beautiful ladies. Probably, this is a matter of taste. ".

From my travels my rating of the ten countries with the most beautiful women worldwide is as follows, starting with the most beautiful:

(1) Ukraine.

(2) Russia.

(3) Sweden.

(4) Italy.

(5) Argentina.

(6) Japan.

(7) Brazil.

(8) Colombia.

(9) Venezuela.

(10) China.

Member #4394
07-14-14, 00:32
Though I would replace china with Iran. Again, it's just a taste, nothing to be personal or angry.


"They are not bad looking, and a few of them look gorgeous. But in any countries, there will be some beautiful ladies. Probably, this is a matter of taste. ".

From my travels my rating of the ten countries with the most beautiful women worldwide is as follows, starting with the most beautiful:

(1) Ukraine.

(2) Russia.

(3) Sweden.

(4) Italy.

(5) Argentina.

(6) Japan.

(7) Brazil.

(8) Colombia.

(9) Venezuela.

(10) China..

Member #4287
07-14-14, 00:34
I also read that there are SWs in Parque Lleras, they're just disguised as civilians. If that's true, I wonder what they charge?

Yeah, I heard that also. Been there a dozen times or more and never got the slightest inclination that any of the woman there were looking for Johns.

WorldWideScout
07-14-14, 00:55
Yes you do need to read further back on this thread. Read the Medellin lists thread also, especially for casa info. Some guys were getting tired of the silly off topic discussions that tend to happen on this this thread and started posting reports over there (not me).

For SWs is Parque Lleras read Brazilsoccer0's post 5 posts down. I agree with him but know that you need an A game with charming personality. They come in small groups and helps to have a wingman with you. You would end up buying drinks for her girl friends and some nights will be a bust. The key word in BS0's post is semi pro. By definition, P4 P is not guaranteed with a semi pro as she will have to choose you also. It can be a blast of fun if you can score. A lot depends on your skill set, personality, language and most importantly...; Money.Thanks!! Saw BSO's post. Makes sense. Sounds like fun, but will need a sure thing if I strike out LOL! Looks like I'll be in Laureles / Estadio and will have to take the train into la candelaria (where it seems all the casas and sws are).

Turgid
07-14-14, 02:08
Though I would replace china with Iran. Again, it's just a taste, nothing to be personal or angry.

.I don't know what the average Iranian woman looks like.

Vegas Jeff
07-14-14, 03:18
That's funny, really.

Now you're going to have more gringos in Medellin, and specifically Parque Lleras looking stupid.

Maybe a dude like Brazilsoccer has the eye to spot and the personality to talk PFP in Lleras, however, really it's not good advice to brag and send guys there looking for PFP, especially SW type.

Hell yes, head to Lleras, meet girls, schmooze away, pick a Paisa up if ya can, but don't just don't propose PFP like it's the norm, unless you don't mind offending.

The actual SW's, as we all know, hang in el Centro, San Diego area, the Mayo.

Have fun!Solid post, Ricker. Good detail.

I agree with the 3 areas mentioned above as the main areas for streetwalkers. I am not a fan of streetwalkers. If I were forced into doing streetwalkers I would rank the Mayo at the top and El Centro at the bottom. There are lots of nonpro girls that can be hit on in El Centro, but that is not the same as streetwalkers. There is some grey area here but I hope you guys can make the distinction.

This is what is happening here. Guys stay in El Poblado. They hear about Parque Lleras as a place to get something to eat. They hear Parque Lleras mentioned often on a sex forum. They see all these people walking around. More importantly they see all of these hot girls. Why not try to talk to them and see what happens? I know this because I was one of you guys 3 years ago. I didn't hit on the upper class girls, though, and proposition them for money on my first few trips. I was friendly, enjoying the interactions. I then left Parque Lleras and went into the city for P4P. I encourage you guys to do the same. Don't forget that many of you new guys can't communicate well, putting you into a near impossible situation. I think this is the stupid that Ricker is alluding to.

I agree with BrasilSoccer that many of these girls have accepted money for sex, no doubt. But for a guy, on one of his first few trips, to try and pick up girls in Lleras? Especially considering Lleras is a place where people are waiting to take advantage of tourists who don't know what is going on around them. Same goes for LA 70 in Laureles.

I want to be at the advantage of being in an environment that I understand with hopefully a sweet, unjaded girl. In Lleras you guys don't see the angles and many of the people you are talking to can see the angles. Disadvantage. Be smarter than the average foreigner and don't hit on the girls in these areas. Use this area as a place to decompress and view the girls as people, or artwork, and not girls to have sex with.

My advice is to be friendly and make connections with the culture at large. Be polite and nice to everyone you meet. Be charming but firm with the working girls.

Good luck to some of you new guys on your first trips.

SlamCity7777
07-14-14, 03:28
Yeah, I heard that also. Been there a dozen times or more and never got the slightest inclination that any of the woman there were looking for Johns.+1 I have not seen SW in Lleres. I have seen known working girls out on "dates" with johns all the time. Woka seems to be popular with them.

I heard there was a place one one of the side st that used to let working girls in there but they might have closed or changed names.

The last possible reason why they might be in the area is hard to believe but it's true. These girls are actual people so they might be out with their girlfriends just having a good time.

C Jack Sparrow
07-14-14, 07:06
Where is the best place to look for a Trophy Wife in Medellin?

The girl must be stunning.

She can not be stupid (which makes this project impossible, no offensive paisas de Manrique, but God is a cynical basterd). She must be able to grow mentally, way above what is requiered in the "barrio" life, socializing with amiga, mama, tia, sobrina, prima.

Good English, or must be able to learn English (also a rare ability if it means that the person must be able to navigate in an Anglo-Saxon community's everydaylife without major communication problems).

Where do I find the girls of estrato 4-6, (where 6 is the highest social class) ? They are not available at Internets Colombiancupid, Latineuro or Amolatina. Are they splinging around the Centro Comercial like; Olviedo, Plaza Premium or El Tesoro?

Kickboxer means that the non-pro scene is a different world. The girls are in general stunning. But which are the clubs, discos, restaurants, cafe's where they are promoting themselves?

Yes it business for me. It already is for this kind of girls. I / we must take the same stand. The better looks and manner your Trophy Wife has, the more respect and impression of success you will give among business people, especially in a latino comunity.

Trophy Wife is the long-term P4 P / prepago. The same principle rules.

After paying for your wife's monthly expenses you can continue the mongering as usual. It is 100% normal. Just don't ever mention it to her, even if she clearly understand what you are up to.

In Medellin a Anglo-Saxon guy rise up 5 points on the social scale which gives ordinary nice guys a fair chance to catch a Dreamgirl.

Cachupo
07-14-14, 07:31
Anyway. I promised a report. I'm on day #3 of day 7. And I got to say, this is not looking like a mongering trip. But something else.

So I arrived late Friday night. Found a nice place in poblacdo which was 65 bucks and included a pool, gym, and kitchen. Decent HQ. Owner of rental said you can have guests just no crazy parties and bbqs. Ok.

So as I mentioned, I met girls on a video web site. This site has about maybe 500-1000 people on, and about 20-30 from Colombia. Rough estimates. I found out later that the girls tend to block people with IP sites from Colombia. THe web site is a porn site. Only 1. Maybe 2 girls on same channel. No intercourse. Just strip, masturbate, on cams. You pay them tokens. Whatever. Pretty hot girls from all over the world, so it was really the only site I went to when was bored and horny LOL. But about 1-2 days before my trip to Colombia, I thought. Maybe I should get in contact with the Medellin girls before the trip. So the Medellin girls I saw on the site are hot. Models. I chat witth them. Tell them I'm going to Medellin, send them a pic of me. And they get a little more interested. They give their numbers. I add them on whatsapp or viber. So far I have personally met 2 of the girls. One of them gave me their facebook page, so I scoured the page. Legit. Girl is 20 something, has a kid. But hot! I never mentioned anything about sex. Just asked about Medellin, where to hang out. She says we should meet. But warns me. "I'm not prepago, OK? Basically, she makes her money from the website. She lost her prior job, left her husband because of domestic abuse and is supporting her kid. The funny thing is. I see her on the web site, chat with her, flirt etc. And I log into a different room on the same web page and see another girl. I start flirting with her at the same time. But then realize that they are playing the same music in both rooms. Shit, they work in the same studio and know each other. And pretty soon they are comparing notes and realize they are chatting with the same guy. Regardless, the first girl was cool with it, and I kinda backed off her friend because I don't need drama (although her friend has added me on FB and we message periodically. NOt sure if she is testing me. Or what).

I hung out with girl 1 (blonde hottie) a couple days now. She hasn't asked me for a cent. We had sex. But yeah, I pay for dinner, took her paragliding (60 bucks) and she takes me the local joints where I'm the only to foreigner. And plenty of GFE. I know girls are manipulative, and they have ulterior motives. But I figured as long as you are aware of it, you play along and have fun. First night, dance, party, drink. Great time, and sex! Next day, she got pretty sick with the paragliding. Vomitted and looked like shit. So I sent her home to rest and recuperate. But I txt the other girl #3 I met. She has no kids. Age young 20's. She is out with 4 friends at a bar, asked me to join them. I did. Got drunk with aguaardiente, had a blast, met some nice people. One was a medical student who was wasted, and the other an owner of a bar. No sex tonight, the girl wanted to go home and sleep it off, but asked to hang out tomorrow. I really had a blast and was pretty buzzed. Its 2 am Sunday. Contemplated about maybe doing some strip club (FASE 2?) fun. But I thinking. Sunday, hmmm. Maybe dead. So I'm calling it a night and saving energy for next day. Now 3 girls messaging me. Kinda wondering who I'm in contact with. But I play it off.

So Monday. Not sure what is in store. I might finally hit the casas. Check it out. Wanted to do some biking / treking. May bring one of the girls I met (good company, GFE, and fun). And Like I said, NONE has asked me for money. Yet I guess. But just like dating. You are spending money in other ways.

But Medellin is the bomb. Girls are hot. Waitresses and bartenders are sweet and flirtatious. Between the drive from the mountains (paragliding) back to el Poblado, we drove through near el centro and I saw some appealing street walkers.

Enen.

I love it. THanks for the 411. Being latin American, I realize that latinas are for me. I was married to an eastern Indian-American woman for a while. Now divorced. Happily. I can see myself marrying a south American woman. In the distant future, after plenty of fun and mischief is done.

Member #4287
07-14-14, 08:19
Where is the best place to look for a Trophy Wife in Medellin?
.EAFIT. You must speak excellent Spanish.

Vitrea
07-14-14, 08:48
That's funny, really.

Now you're going to have more gringos in Medellin, and specifically Parque Lleras looking stupid.

Maybe a dude like Brazilsoccer has the eye to spot and the personality to talk PFP in Lleras, however, really it's not good advice to brag and send guys there looking for PFP, especially SW type.

Hell yes, head to Lleras, meet girls, schmooze away, pick a Paisa up if ya can, but don't just don't propose PFP like it's the norm, unless you don't mind offending.

The actual SW's, as we all know, hang in el Centro, San Diego area, the Mayo.

Have fun!Ha ha. My point is the same. If you are good looking, charming manners, speak the language and willing to invest time and money, you can pick up women anywhere. PL, included. I only have three out of those five so I never waste my time looking for them at Parque Lleras. If you read between the lines, I was trying to discourage the poster from doing so.

TellAll
07-14-14, 12:01
EAFIT. You must speak excellent Spanish.Or instead of trying to turn a Latina into a white girl, go to the USA and get you a fat Anglo Saxon female who is educated to your liking. Maybe after Gastric Bypass and a few years on Jenny Craig, she will even be your Trophy Wife.

Golfinho
07-14-14, 13:06
From my travels my rating of the ten countries with the most beautiful women worldwide is as follows, starting with the most beautiful:

(1) Ukraine
(2) Russia
(3) Sweden
(4) Italy
5) Argentina
(6) Japan
(7) Brazil
(8) Colombia
(9) Venezuela
(10) ChinaFrom my travels, Armenia should be high on a list of this type.

Ricker
07-14-14, 16:01
Where is the best place to look for a Trophy Wife in Medellin?
Humm, tough question.

I'd say at the Kokorico near El Estadio.

That's where they usually hang out.

LOL (that just couldn't be a real question, could it?)

Ricker
07-14-14, 16:51
Anyway. I promised a report ...
Medellin is the bomb. Girls are hot. Waitresses and bartenders are sweet and flirtatious. Between the drive from the mountains (paragliding) back to el Poblado, we drove through near el centro and I saw some appealing street walkers.

Enen.

I love it. THanks for the 411. Being latin American, I realize that latinas are for me. I was married to an eastern Indian-American woman for a while. Now divorced. Happily. I can see myself marrying a south American woman. In the distant future, after plenty of fun and mischief is done.Great report amigo!

Those experiences are the most fun IMO. Not PFP really, but paying for normal fun stuff and enjoying the fruits of a real GFE.

Mixing that in with a little PFP when and if desired, Great!

Thanks for the report!

Enjoy!

C Jack Sparrow
07-15-14, 02:27
Humm, tough question.

I'd say at the Kokorico near El Estadio.

That's where they usually hang out.

LOL (that just couldn't be a real question, could it?)Yes it was a real question.

I want to try to end this war. Going to casas, apartments, cupid and meet sexy girls prepagos or ordinary, but NEVER the girl of your dreams has made me come to the conclusion:

The be able to focus on my Spanish, my Personal Project etc. I need a Trophy Wife. The distraction from just thinking of, for example, New Life, makes me happy, but unfocused.

That's my I came up with this question.

Just like the american ended the war with an atomic bomd, I want to end my personal sexwar with a Atomic Sexbomb!

Ricker
07-15-14, 03:15
Yes it was a real question.

I want to try to end this war. Going to casas, apartments, cupid and meet sexy girls prepagos or ordinary, but NEVER the girl of your dreams has made me come to the conclusion:

The be able to focus on my Spanish, my Personal Project etc. I need a Trophy Wife. The distraction from just thinking of, for example, New Life, makes me happy, but unfocused.

That's my I came up with this question.

Just like the american ended the war with an atomic bomd, I want to end my personal sexwar with a Atomic Sexbomb!I hear ya amigo, but in the end she'd probably be just another nightmare pain in the ass, especially if you brought her back to the US.

Good luck!

BrasilSoccer0
07-15-14, 05:01
I agree with this guy. I took a month long Spanish course in EAFIT and my god the beauty there was amazing.

Disclaimer: Super super bitchy "I am a princess" attitudes. And trust me, they know why we are there. And they hate it and are turned off by it. LOL.


EAFIT. You must speak excellent Spanish.

Vitrea
07-15-14, 06:43
Though I would replace china with Iran. Again, it's just a taste, nothing to be personal or angry.

.I agree completely re Iran. (No joke). 3 out of my top 5 ATF girls are from Iran.

FoxesHunter
07-15-14, 13:32
If you are good looking, charming manners, speak the language and willing to invest time and money, you can pick up women anywhere.Your post is not complete because you did not indicate the age.

SlamCity7777
07-15-14, 13:51
Where is the best place to look for a Trophy Wife in Medellin?

The girl must be stunning.

She can not be stupid (which makes this project impossible, no offensive paisas de Manrique, but God is a cynical basterd). She must be able to grow mentally, way above what is requiered in the "barrio" life, socializing with amiga, mama, tia, sobrina, prima.

Good English, or must be able to learn English (also a rare ability if it means that the person must be able to navigate in an Anglo-Saxon community's everyday life without major communication problems).

Where do I find the girls of estrato 4-6, (where 6 is the highest social class) ? They are not available at Internets Colombiancupid, Latineuro or Amolatina. Are they splinging around the Centro Comercial like; Olviedo, Plaza Premium or El Tesoro?

Kickboxer means that the non-pro scene is a different world. The girls are in general stunning. But which are the clubs, discos, restaurants, cafe's where they are promoting themselves?

Yes it business for me. It already is for this kind of girls. I / we must take the same stand. The better looks and manner your Trophy Wife has, the more respect and impression of success you will give among business people, especially in a latino comunity.

Trophy Wife is the long-term P4 P / prepago. The same principle rules.

After paying for your wife's monthly expenses you can continue the mongering as usual. It is 100% normal. Just don't ever mention it to her, even if she clearly understand what you are up to.

In Medellin a Anglo-Saxon guy rise up 5 points on the social scale which gives ordinary nice guys a fair chance to catch a Dreamgirl.I have to call shenanigans on a few of your points or arguments here bro. Forgive me but they are too glaring for me to let slide.

First: in Mede a Anglo-saxon guy raises up a nice guy 5 points on the social scale? No dude it does not. Go to Juan Valdez in Parque Lleres to watch and listen in to those sad sad sacks of gringos that live down there part / full time. They are mostly Anglo-Saxons and no TW or even hot girlfriends, just prepagos that come over every Wed to fuck them and leave to be with their reals novios, esposos, and familias.

Just being a white guy does not cut it any more. Maybe in Asia there still is a strong novelty factor but Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, that ship has sailed. Being a normal white guy isn't enough anymore. Being a normal white guy with money and wiliness to spend / give it to a girl will move you up the scale like you said. Or you can be a brown, yellow, purple, green guy as long as you have money. Same story as it always was and will be. Money talks and bullshit walks.

Second: The hotter and smarter your trophy wife has the better it is for business? Especially in Latino Community? I don't even know where to begin on this one. A wife even a trophy wife is a partner in your entire world so yes she should be a help to you and not a hindrance.

Yes; If she's hot, smart, and charming then clearly this will reflect on you in the most positive of ways in social or networking situations. If she keeps a nice home and presents a nice meal to a client then this is a benefit to you in closing deals. Best case is that TW and his wife get a long great and that would be huge!

In business ultimately the deal gets done or lost because of you NOT your wife. "My product is whack and my team third rate but my wife is hot! So please buy this product / sign this contract. " Unless you plan on using your wife's sexuality to close deals / fuck clients then you're argument does not hold water IMO.

Now if you're TW has hot friends and the contact is single or recently divorced that is a separate matter. You could use that opportunity to personal relationship to leverage into a more lucrative professional dynamic.

Keep in mind the other side of that sword; if you're TW is much younger or too hot for you (lets be honest guys) than you look foolish with TW not like a BOSS but the fool. People will think you're getting played, that she's only with you for your money (which in this case she is), it will make other people that you want to deal with uncomfortable. Your colleagues will think what we all do when we see a guy in his say 40-60 yrs range walk into a bar, club, restaurant with SUPER HOT girl in her 20-30's. Look at that guy with his hooker! Whan an idiot!

Also the same TW might make the other wives JEALOUS and there is getting over that obstacle of life or business. If the other guys wife doesn't want you or your TW wife around you will not be around. Happy Wife=Happy Life.

Third: Speaking or learning English is not that hard once placed into a immersion environment. Get TW a visa, bring TW to USA for classes and culture, and watch how fast she leaves you for the next best thing!! Because in America there are guys younger, better looking, better shape, and make more money that you. And don't forget he'd be Anglo-Saxon so that bumbs him up 5 points making him a better catch than you. (I'm guessing you're not Tom Brady).

Forth: Education in Colombia is crap! I think most elementary schools go for like 4 hours and then a second shift starts. What can you accomplish in 4 hours with kids? I think it was Korea or China that said they're elementary programs go for 7-8 hours. Cultural considerations need to be factored in to the equation as well. Girls are told from the jump that their looks are the key to their lives so that is what they focus on. That being said education no bueno.

To answer your question about finding a TW you listed or inferred your needs to be. Stunning, Smart, Bilingual, Classy, Educated, and willing to marry you. Now ask yourself Why would a woman like this even in Colombia want to marry me? Even is she only had two or three of these characteristics she'd have better options in life than to marry into a loveless relationship with a man a decade or two her senior.

Lets be honest, Are you young or even youthful? Handsome or in good shape? Smart, funny, charming? Interesting, worldly, adventurous? Can you sing or dance well? Talented? Successful guys in the romantic world have several of these traits if not all. These are the things that make men attractive. And one more that is most important. Money.

Are you well off? I mean like $250 K a year or better? Because that's the range you need to be to get the girl you are describing. Even in Colombia!

If you are willling to lower your standards then if you make $80-$100 K+ then you can make it happen.

Seriously dude you're asking how to find a Trophy Wife on a forum dedicated to banning from around the world.

The game is to be sold. Not to be told.

BlueChange
07-15-14, 15:32
I have to call shenanigans on a few of your points or arguments here bro. Forgive me but they are too glaring for me to let slide.

First: in Mede a Anglo-saxon guy raises up a nice guy 5 points on the social scale? No dude it does not. Go to Juan Valdez in Parque Lleres to watch and listen in to those sad sad sacks of gringos that live down there part / full time. They are mostly Anglo-Saxons and no TW or even hot girlfriends, just prepagos that come over every wed to fuck them and leave to be with their reals novios, esposos, and familias.

Just being a white guy does not cut it any more. Maybe in Asia there still is a strong novelty factor but Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, that ship has sailed. Being a normal white guy isn't enough anymore. Being a normal white guy with money and wiliness to spend / give it to a girl will move you up the scale like you said. Or you can be a brown, yellow, purple, green guy as long as you have money. Same story as it always was and will be. Money talks and bullshit walks.

Second: The hotter and smarter your trophy wife has the better it is for business? Especially in Latino Community? I don't even know where to begin on this one. A wife even a trophy wife is a partner in your entire world so yes she should be a help to you and not a hindrance..Preach! I 100000000% agree.

Truth is its going to come down to a connection and chemistry. Yeah a girl is going to want the bigger better deal. If your Mentality is "Trophy Wife" then expect someone else to want to win.

Her. If you have that mentality and lean all your answers into a "Trophy Wife" then all of your problems will start with your "Trophy Wife".

The truth is if you want a relationship you can't treat them as a possession they are your partner.

These Colombian girls are a new generation, they have the internet, they have Instagrams they know their worth in the world. A 10 knows what she can get in the world. What you think you are her first one that's taking her out of the country and spedning $$ on her? Get real!

Its going to come down to your hard work and your career, not the women who you marry.

That said, this forum is not for getting wives, it's for living a out a fantasy. Take the mans advice and just use them for what it is. A sex fantasy.

Turgid
07-15-14, 15:49
"First: in Mede a Anglo-saxon guy raises up a nice guy 5 points on the social scale? No dude it does not. Go to Juan Valdez in Parque Lleres to watch and listen in to those sad sad sacks of gringos that live down there part / full time. They are mostly Anglo-Saxons and no TW or even hot girlfriends, just prepagos that come over every wed to fuck them and leave to be with their reals novios, esposos, and familias.

Just being a white guy does not cut it any more. Maybe in Asia there still is a strong novelty factor but Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, that ship has sailed. Being a normal white guy isn't enough anymore. ".

My experience is that being Anglo Saxon you have to spend more money to get the same service as what others are getting for much less. This is also so in Asia especially in China. It is called the gringo or leowai tax. Generally in most if not all destinations Anglo Saxons are required to pay more because traditionally they have paid more even when not required to. If the price is fixed and you are white be prepared to pay a tip which is not expected of others. We are doomed by the behavior of others.

ForceSteeler
07-15-14, 15:59
I have to call shenanigans on a few of your points or arguments here bro. Forgive me but they are too glaring for me to let slide.

First: in Mede a Anglo-saxon guy raises up a nice guy 5 points on the social scale? No dude it does not. Go to Juan Valdez in Parque Lleres to watch and listen in to those sad sad sacks of gringos that live down there part / full time. They are mostly Anglo-Saxons and no TW or even hot girlfriends, just prepagos that come over every wed to fuck them and leave to be with their reals novios, esposos, and familias.

Just being a white guy does not cut it any more. Maybe in Asia there still is a strong novelty factor but Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, that ship has sailed. Being a normal white guy isn't enough anymore. Being a normal white guy with money and wiliness to spend / give it to a girl will move you up the scale like you said. Or you can be a brown, yellow, purple, green guy as long as you have money. Same story as it always was and will be. Money talks and bullshit walks.

Second: The hotter and smarter your trophy wife has the better it is for business? Especially in Latino Community? I don't even know where to begin on this one. A wife even a trophy wife is a partner in your entire world so yes she should be a help to you and not a hindrance..It has nothing to do with women, look at the movie Wolf of Wall Street, Dicapro dropped his main girl that was with him before the money.

For a trophy wife, only to find out when he falls on hard times and lost millionaires, she left him in a hard beat. When your looking for a wife, don't look for eye candy.

You have to look for a women that is going to be there when your broke, sick and down on your luck. When your looking for a wife you have to think about the future!.

Will she be there for you when your down on your luck? She's eye candy for now, but what about 10-20 Years when her looks start to fade? She is not going to look like that.

Forever.

Concarne
07-15-14, 16:02
Hey guys. Yet another trip in the pipeline. In a few weeks.

So in my last trip (I forget if I commented on this already) I found an unexpected source of fun in the lesbian bars. One in Barbacoa in particular. At any rate, I ended up doing a couple of checas there. It was one of those things that just happenned. I went there at the request of an amiga, ended up sitting there for a while as I like the music that was playing as well as absorb the scene both in the bar and in the "Calle de Pecado" Interesting and entertaining. Long story short I did a couple of girls I met there.

Well, I return home and thru facebook I keep in touch with a couple and connect with others. You know just some innocent chit chat. One of them I briefly met and drank with a little bit is super cute and funny. Not a paisa stunner to be sure but that girl next door quality. So chatting with her. Next thing you know she wants to do this and that go here and there. No surprises there as she is probably bored doing whatever it is she does on a daily basis (probably internet and hang around) and the foreigner guy may be able to provide some distraction by doing stuff she usually does not do.

My question is: she at some point insisted on picking me up at the airport and on visiting and hanging out with her family. I do not like being paranoid but I have been burned in Tijuana once and in BGT once (stories for another day). Is this a common thing with paisas or colombian girls? Or is this some kind of set up I must be super weary of?

Always so much more simple to do P4 P. Hahaha. BTW some fresh casa recs always welcome!

TIA.

Hioctane
07-15-14, 16:24
My question is: she at some point insisted on picking me up at the airport and on visiting and hanging out with her family. I do not like being paranoid but I have been burned in Tijuana once and in BGT once (stories for another day). Is this a common thing with paisas or colombian girls? Or is this some kind of set up I must be super weary of?Colombian girls are very friendly. I have been to the houses of many working girls and regular girls, most live in very sketchy barrios, so keep your eyes open and don't carry too much cash with you.

Vegas Jeff
07-15-14, 16:36
My question is: she at some point insisted on picking me up at the airport and on visiting and hanging out with her family. I do not like being paranoid but I have been burned in Tijuana once and in BGT once (stories for another day). Is this a common thing with paisas or colombian girls? Or is this some kind of set up I must be super weary of?I encourage you to go meet her. She probably just wants you to see where she lives and maybe take you to a nearby restaurant. I have met a bunch of girls in their barrios all throughout Medellin. I went out of my way to do this.

Some girls won't want to be seen with you in their house and neighborhood. Surprisingly, many will.

If you are still unsure when you get here send me a pm and I will go with you. Only about 5%-10% of the city is really bad. Other than these areas, the worse the neighborhood the better for me. I get a rush entering the upper half of the hillside barrios.

Ricker
07-15-14, 16:41
Keep in mind the other side of that sword; if you're TW is much younger or too hot for you (lets be honest guys) than you look foolish with TW not like a BOSS but the fool. People will think you're getting played, that she's only with you for your money (which in this case she is), it will make other people that you want to deal with uncomfortable. Your colleagues will think what we all do when we see a guy in his say 40-60 yrs range walk into a bar, club, restaurant with SUPER HOT girl in her 20-30's. Look at that guy with his hooker! Whan an idiot!

Amigo, you make some very good points.

I have to tell you though, I met this sexy, beautiful, younger latina american girl by chance a couple years ago, in the US.

I wasn't looking or really wanting a GF in the US, but she just hit me like a ton of bricks, LOL.

She's 20 plus years younger than me, an absolutely been fantastic for me!

We hang out all the time together, go on little trips / vacations, etc and though I may be wrong, I never feel that anyone is uncomfortable around us.

We both have friendly, outgoing personalities, so I think once people meet us together they see we fit well.

I've never been one to care what others, especially the bitter people are thinking.

It's really the best way to live IMO, because there's always someone saying something about something, blah, blah, blah, and I really don't care, because I'm happy, and they're usually not.

I'm never getting married again, and she knows it, so she'll never be a Trophy Wife, but a Trophy GF is good enough, LOL.

Life throws curve balls and sometimes it's a nice hanging one, and you need to take advantage of it while ya can.

Enjoy life amigos.

SlamCity7777
07-15-14, 18:21
Amigo, you make some very good points.

I have to tell you though, I met this sexy, beautiful, younger latina american girl by chance a couple years ago, in the US.

I wasn't looking or really wanting a GF in the US, but she just hit me like a ton of bricks, LOL.

She's 20 plus years younger than me, an absolutely been fantastic for me!

We hang out all the time together, go on little trips / vacations, etc and though I may be wrong, I never feel that anyone is uncomfortable around us.

We both have friendly, outgoing personalities, so I think once people meet us together they see we fit well.

I've never been one to care what others, especially the bitter people are thinking..Thank you for recognizing the validity of my argument. Always nice.

RE you vs TW. Intent.

You met a girl and hit it off. End of story. The rest (age, economics, ect) is just window dressing.

Dude wants to meet a girl and have a TW to use for x why and z.

The intent is what is important here.

Vegas Jeff
07-15-14, 18:43
I wasn't looking or really wanting a GF in the US, but she just hit me like a ton of bricks, LOL.

She's 20 plus years younger than me, an absolutely been fantastic for me!

I'm never getting married again, and she knows it, so she'll never be a Trophy Wife, but a Trophy GF is good enough, LOL.

Life throws curve balls and sometimes it's a nice hanging one, and you need to take advantage of it while ya can.

Enjoy life amigos.My girlfriend hit me like a ton of bricks two years ago. I absolutely was not looking for this relationship. I didn't use the word "amor" for the first 3 months after meeting her.

Ricker, you would never tolerate a trophy wife. I can see it by the way you write. You wouldn't be around someone that would make you stick out. People would notice that you two are comfortable together and there would not be a problem. Sure, some people are going to look at you a little funny but you are going to minimize this by the way you conduct yourself.

I live in an area way out in west Laureles. The foreigners that I see out where I live make me proud. One place I see couples together is at The Los Molinos Mall. Again these guys look good and blend in.

The only area I notice the problem is in El Poblado and in Laureles around UPB and LA 70. Everywhere else I notice foreigners blending in with their spouses / girlfriends.

Cachupo
07-15-14, 19:07
Amigo, you make some very good points.

I have to tell you though, I met this sexy, beautiful, younger latina american girl by chance a couple years ago, in the US.

I wasn't looking or really wanting a GF in the US, but she just hit me like a ton of bricks, LOL.

She's 20 plus years younger than me, an absolutely been fantastic for me!

We hang out all the time together, go on little trips / vacations, etc and though I may be wrong, I never feel that anyone is uncomfortable around us..What's the magic formula? Half your age + 7? Hahaha. I think that works, but you can probably go 1/3 your age + 8. As long as you are older than 30.

I been in the Asia and south America, and it's not unusual to see older men with younger women. I know a couple accomplished businessmen who are in their 50's. And they have gfs in 20's. Hot.

Will people in the USA look at you differently? Yes. Especially women and jealous men. But man if you are happy, do what makes you happy. Life is short. Remove the negative people from your life or minimize them.

"Stay thirsty my friends"dos equis commercial.

Nclpimp
07-15-14, 19:42
I have a girl with money issues that needs it fixed today. If you want a nonpro today and are willing to fork over 200 k pm me. If not let's not make this a big deal just ignore this post.

BrasilSoccer0
07-16-14, 00:23
Hi Concarne,

I'm really interested in your success with Medellin lesbians. Can you tell us more about that?

I've approached lesbians knowing that they are so and eventually was just a disappointing experience. When I shared my experience with a local male friend, he told me don't waist your time, lesbians hate men. And I think there is some truth to that.

Anyhow, to answer your concern with paisas inviting you to their homes, have no worries. It's perfectly normal for them. I can speak from my experiences only! I had never felt I was being setup or endangered. My only problem was that the mother of one of the young ladies I was visiting was teaching her to smooch as much as possible from me and I eventually got tired and stopped going there.

Just use your common sense and, especially in your case, previous experiences to make a sound judgment.


Hey guys. Yet another trip in the pipeline. In a few weeks.

So in my last trip (I forget if I commented on this already) I found an unexpected source of fun in the lesbian bars. One in Barbacoa in particular. At any rate, I ended up doing a couple of checas there. It was one of those things that just happenned. I went there at the request of an amiga, ended up sitting there for a while as I like the music that was playing as well as absorb the scene both in the bar and in the "Calle de Pecado" Interesting and entertaining. Long story short I did a couple of girls I met there.

Well, I return home and thru facebook I keep in touch with a couple and connect with others. You know just some innocent chit chat. One of them I briefly met and drank with a little bit is super cute and funny. Not a paisa stunner to be sure but that girl next door quality. So chatting with her. Next thing you know she wants to do this and that go here and there. No surprises there as she is probably bored doing whatever it is she does on a daily basis (probably internet and hang around) and the foreigner guy may be able to provide some distraction by doing stuff she usually does not do.

My question is: she at some point insisted on picking me up at the airport and on visiting and hanging out with her family. I do not like being paranoid but I have been burned in Tijuana once and in BGT once (stories for another day). Is this a common thing with paisas or colombian girls? Or is this some kind of set up I must be super weary of?

Always so much more simple to do P4 P. Hahaha. BTW some fresh casa recs always welcome!

TIA.

Ricker
07-16-14, 02:23
My girlfriend hit me like a ton of bricks two years ago. I absolutely was not looking for this relationship. I didn't use the word "amor" for the first 3 months after meeting her.

Ricker, you would never tolerate a trophy wife. I can see it by the way you write. You wouldn't be around someone that would make you stick out. People would notice that you two are comfortable together and there would not be a problem. Sure, some people are going to look at you a little funny but you are going to minimize this by the way you conduct yourself.

I live in an area way out in west Laureles. The foreigners that I see out where I live make me proud. One place I see couples together is at The Los Molinos Mall. Again these guys look good and blend in.

The only area I notice the problem is in El Poblado and in Laureles around UPB and LA 70. Everywhere else I notice foreigners blending in with their spouses / girlfriends.Sounds good amigo!

I think the best things in life happen when not expected!

I remember when I first visited Medellin years ago, staying at a place called Colombian Sweethearts.
The routine was selecting girls from their internet files, setting up meetings, almost like interviews, quickly became repetetive and boring.

I gave up on that after day 2 and just moved on to roaming the city, having fun and meeting on my on.
More relaxing and happy-go-lucky for sure.
The guys that show with up just a skeleton plan and just simply enjoy have the most fun IMO.

Have fun out there!

BlueChange
07-16-14, 03:41
Sounds good amigo!

I think the best things in life happen when not expected!

I remember when I first visited Medellin years ago, staying at a place called Colombian Sweethearts.
The routine was selecting girls from their internet files, setting up meetings, almost like interviews, quickly became repetetive and boring.

I gave up on that after day 2 and just moved on to roaming the city, having fun and meeting on my on.
More relaxing and happy-go-lucky for sure.

The guys that show with up just a skeleton plan and just simply enjoy have the most fun IMO.

Have fun out there!That's what I'm doing, Skelaton plan, go in with an open mind see what happened. I lined up a few chicas but it's not like I'm there going "what will our invitations looks like".

Combo
07-16-14, 05:03
It has nothing to do with women, look at the movie Wolf of Wall Street, Dicapro dropped his main girl that was with him before the money.

For a trophy wife, only to find out when he falls on hard times and lost millionaires, she left him in a hard beat. When your looking for a wife, don't look for eye candy.

You have to look for a women that is going to be there when your broke, sick and down on your luck. When your looking for a wife you have to think about the future!.

Will she be there for you when your down on your luck? She's eye candy for now, but what about 10-20 Years when her looks start to fade? She is not going to look like that.

Forever.Very well said! To go further, a "trophy wife" isn't likely to help you out in the business world. But a wife that is intelligent, educated, and decent looking (but not hot-looking) certainly could. Of course, your own intelligence and hard work will be much more important in the business world than whatever a spouse offers (unless her father is CEO of a major corporation).

I'm not sure if the original poster was being serious. If he actually were to find this type of women in Colombia, it would likely end up being a disaster for him.

C Jack Sparrow
07-16-14, 09:31
I have to call shenanigans on a few of your points or arguments here bro. Forgive me but they are too glaring for me to let slide.

First: in Mede a Anglo-saxon guy raises up a nice guy 5 points on the social scale? No dude it does not. Go to Juan Valdez in Parque Lleres to watch and listen in to those sad sad sacks of gringos that live down there part / full time. They are mostly Anglo-Saxons and no TW or even hot girlfriends, just prepagos that come over every wed to fuck them and leave to be with their reals novios, esposos, and familias.

Just being a white guy does not cut it any more. Maybe in Asia there still is a strong novelty factor but Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, that ship has sailed. Being a normal white guy isn't enough anymore. Being a normal white guy with money and wiliness to spend / give it to a girl will move you up the scale like you said. Or you can be a brown, yellow, purple, green guy as long as you have money. Same story as it always was and will be. Money talks and bullshit walks.

Second: The hotter and smarter your trophy wife has the better it is for business? Especially in Latino Community? I don't even know where to begin on this one. A wife even a trophy wife is a partner in your entire world so yes she should be a help to you and not a hindrance.

Yes; If she's hot, smart, and charming then clearly this will reflect on you in the most positive of ways in social or networking situations. If she keeps a nice home and presents a nice meal to a client then this is a benefit to you in closing deals. Best case is that TW and his wife get a long great and that would be huge!

In business ultimately the deal gets done or lost because of you NOT your wife. "My product is whack and my team third rate but my wife is hot! So please buy this product / sign this contract. " Unless you plan on using your wife's sexuality to close deals / fuck clients then you're argument does not hold water IMO.

Now if you're TW has hot friends and the contact is single or recently divorced that is a separate matter. You could use that opportunity to personal relationship to leverage into a more lucrative professional dynamic.

Keep in mind the other side of that sword; if you're TW is much younger or too hot for you (lets be honest guys) than you look foolish with TW not like a BOSS but the fool. People will think you're getting played, that she's only with you for your money (which in this case she is), it will make other people that you want to deal with uncomfortable. Your colleagues will think what we all do when we see a guy in his say 40-60 yrs range walk into a bar, club, restaurant with SUPER HOT girl in her 20-30's. Look at that guy with his hooker! Whan an idiot!

Also the same TW might make the other wives JEALOUS and there is getting over that obstacle of life or business. If the other guys wife doesn't want you or your TW wife around you will not be around. Happy Wife=Happy Life.

Third: Speaking or learning English is not that hard once placed into a immersion environment. Get TW a visa, bring TW to USA for classes and culture, and watch how fast she leaves you for the next best thing!! Because in America there are guys younger, better looking, better shape, and make more money that you. And don't forget he'd be Anglo-Saxon so that bumbs him up 5 points making him a better catch than you. (I'm guessing you're not Tom Brady).

Forth: Education in Colombia is crap! I think most elementary schools go for like 4 hours and then a second shift starts. What can you accomplish in 4 hours with kids? I think it was Korea or China that said they're elementary programs go for 7-8 hours. Cultural considerations need to be factored in to the equation as well. Girls are told from the jump that their looks are the key to their lives so that is what they focus on. That being said education no bueno.

To answer your question about finding a TW you listed or inferred your needs to be. Stunning, Smart, Bilingual, Classy, Educated, and willing to marry you. Now ask yourself Why would a woman like this even in Colombia want to marry me? Even is she only had two or three of these characteristics she'd have better options in life than to marry into a loveless relationship with a man a decade or two her senior.

Lets be honest, Are you young or even youthful? Handsome or in good shape? Smart, funny, charming? Interesting, worldly, adventurous? Can you sing or dance well? Talented? Successful guys in the romantic world have several of these traits if not all. These are the things that make men attractive. And one more that is most important. Money.

Are you well off? I mean like $250 K a year or better? Because that's the range you need to be to get the girl you are describing. Even in Colombia!

If you are willling to lower your standards then if you make $80-$100 K+ then you can make it happen.

Seriously dude you're asking how to find a Trophy Wife on a forum dedicated to banning from around the world.

The game is to be sold. Not to be told.The picture you paint seems logical. That one needs to pay enormous amounts of money to get a Trophy Wife.

The reality is that you still are so influenced by your life in a often puritan Anglo-Saxon society that you can't break loose from mentally.

http://cazollasociados.********.com/2012/11/colombia-consumidores-de-bajos-ingresos.html : 50% of the Colombians live on minimum wage and maximum working hours! 50%.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/co.html : top ten percent of the population gets 44% of the nations incomes, which leaves 90% of the Colombians with 56% of the incomes. Only some poor countries in Africa have more inequality!

Girls are stunning in Medellin. That is a fact! Compare to Peru or Argentina or Ecuador!

Men can NOT provide with much more than his paisa wife, and hence they look for money by prostitution or marrying a extranjero.

These are basic circumstances.

The lower class people only have contact with the upper-class life when being with gringos. They want to marry to escape their lifes in poverty. But they are ashamed of themselves. They are used to be servants, unskilled workers, etc. These girls almost consider gringos coming from another world. They have low self-esteem. They have no solution to that problem. This is a factor much more important than the supposed ugliness of the gringos in Parque Lleras.

http://www.tusalario.org/colombia/Portada/tusalario/compara-tu-salario : A female engineer have a salary of 1. 20 m COP a month or $US 600 with 3-4 years university studies and 3-4 years working experience. That is 6877 COP / hour, which is 3. 43 $US an hour.

This is the economical landscape that to you enter going to Medellin.

I need to make $US 250.000 to get a trophy Wife here? Her income is $US 7200 a year. That is 34 times more that she earns! 34 times more!

Lowering my standards to a more normal girl I only need $US 80-100.000 which is "only" 11-14 times more.

Attracting a paisa who is educated, or adoptable to studies, cultural change, social class change, can't be more easy.

The numbers speaks for themselves. Above this comes many working hours, often Saturdays, often continuously studies to be competitive. Work & Studies, all day long, exept Sundays.

The Anglo-Saxon guy still is the best deal, even if there are much more of them in Latinamerica now than 30 years ago.

Trophy Wife are among the 51-89% of income. Maybe 10% have the looks and education / adaptability to become a real Trophy Wife.

That leaves us with an estimated 20.000 potential TWs in Medellin only, counting that 22% of the female population is in the age range to be married as "young and beautiful".

How many USs or Europeans do I then compete with?

I would say ten percent, 2000. Tops!

All statistics are in favour of the Anglo-Saxon guy. All of the statistics!

Trophy Wife does NOT exclude prepagos and mongering. It just leaves you with a smaller framework, but you can still visit paisasdivinas, Energy or New Life.

Don't (wildly) underestimate your ability to be a winner.

Thanks to macroeconomic factors you are a winner, even if you might feel otherwise!

C Jack Sparrow
07-16-14, 10:10
" Your colleagues will think what we all do when we see a guy in his say 40-60 yrs range walk into a bar, club, restaurant with SUPER HOT girl in her 20-30's. Look at that guy with his hooker! Whan an idiot!

I don certainly not think so! And there are a HUGE difference being 40 than being 60 if you excuse me.

I also want a SUPER HOT girl in her 20-30. Yes I do. I want her a lot more than that new Mercedes see-Class model with a powerful 3 liter engine. Both can be considered a waste of money, but both can also be considered a prestige symbol.

Most Western guys have to marry big, horselike females with an attitude, even though many times the guys earns more, have better looks since they are in the same age and females gets sexually unattractive much younger than men, just as they mature much earlier. A new trend today is, on top of that already permanent Stalingrad-like scenario, that the females is older. Are those females ashamed of themselves? NO! They just take what they want among "cute", but powerless modern men!

Why shouldn't we do the same in Medellin?

Make money in the Anglo-Saxon, Franko, German society. Then leave before you are stuck!

Females of today just take what they want without asking permission. Men tend to be unsecure. They can get that SUPER HOT girl, but then he starts to reason with moral logics to prevent himself from doing what he innermost really wants!

"Why didn't he ask me out", thinks the SUPER HOT Medellin girl.

Kick123
07-16-14, 10:36
Have you ever been to Medellin?


" Your colleagues will think what we all do when we see a guy in his say 40-60 yrs range walk into a bar, club, restaurant with SUPER HOT girl in her 20-30's. Look at that guy with his hooker! Whan an idiot!

I don certainly not think so! And there are a HUGE difference being 40 than being 60 if you excuse me.

I also want a SUPER HOT girl in her 20-30. Yes I do. I want her a lot more than that new Mercedes see-Class model with a powerful 3 liter engine. Both can be considered a waste of money, but both can also be considered a prestige symbol.

Most Western guys have to marry big, horselike females with an attitude, even though many times the guys earns more, have better looks since they are in the same age and females gets sexually unattractive much younger than men, just as they mature much earlier. A new trend today is, on top of that already permanent Stalingrad-like scenario, that the females is older. Are those females ashamed of themselves? NO! They just take what they want among "cute", but powerless modern men!..

SavePros321
07-16-14, 11:25
I have a girl with money issues that needs it fixed today. If you want a nonpro today and are willing to fork over 200 k pm me. If not let's not make this a big deal just ignore this post.So the nonpro is about to go pro? Nice!

Ricker
07-16-14, 11:49
What's the magic formula? Half your age + 7? Hahaha. I think that works, but you can probably go 1/3 your age + 8. As long as you are older than 30.

I been in the Asia and south America, and it's not unusual to see older men with younger women. I know a couple accomplished businessmen who are in their 50's. And they have gfs in 20's. Hot.

Will people in the USA look at you differently? Yes. Especially women and jealous men. But man if you are happy, do what makes you happy. Life is short. Remove the negative people from your life or minimize them.

"Stay thirsty my friends"dos equis commercial.The magic formula in my opinion is there is no magic formula.

Too much talk of statistics, ratios, percentages, etc.

It's simple, if you want to really meet Colombian women, do what makes sense.

Maybe learn to speak Spanish, duh LOL.

Get good and comfortable at it.

Visit Colombia often, another duh.

Go out, make friends, contacts, friends of friends, etc.

Just enjoy the day, the week, whatever.

You'll meet women.

The culture is friendly, especially to the respectful and fun.

Chances are good you'll eventually meet the girl for you.

Don't force it.

Relax and enjoy the growing of the relationship.

I've seen many many guys fall for the beautiful Latina and rush it, even get married way to soon, only to find disappointment later.

I'm getting way too philosophical here, bottom line, take a deep breath and enjoy the ride.

Cool.

Nclpimp
07-16-14, 16:04
20 years old, 2 hours 2 shots 200 k.


So the nonpro is about to go pro? Nice!

Aussie Greg
07-16-14, 17:08
No such thing as a non-pro in Colombia, their all fucken pros, just like there mothers and grandmothers, its in there breeding or DNA!

A. G


20 years old, 2 hours 2 shots 200 k.

Concarne
07-16-14, 17:17
Hi Concarne,

I'm really interested in your success with Medellin lesbians. Can you tell us more about that?

I've approached lesbians knowing that they are so and eventually was just a disappointing experience. When I shared my experience with a local male friend, he told me don't waist your time, lesbians hate men. And I think there is some truth to that.

Anyhow, to answer your concern with paisas inviting you to their homes, have no worries. It's perfectly normal for them. .Thank you for all the feedback fellows! Thanks HiOctane and VegasJeff! Jeff. I will PM you regarding my visit dates. If you are around maybe we can grab some food (my treat) and explore a bit.

BrasilSoccer: Like a lot of good things it was something that developed spontaneously. I was hanging out at Parque Periodista (I like going there to have a couple of drinks, sit at a table, read a book and occasionally watch the crowd getting wasted in the park). There I met Natalia who was just hanging, bought her a drink and we chatted (I am fluent in spanish), ended up finding out about her family, studies and the fact that she had recently broke up with her girlfriend and that she works at the Rainbow bar. Anyways, she invited me to go see where she works. Not too far from Periodista. So I was like sure why not? Always looking to do new things.

So we went there, met some of her friends and they started partying together. I decided to hang as the music was alright and just to soak in the scene. BTW some of the colombian lesbos were supra hot. Some butch ones to be sure but there were some killer hotties. Anyways, Natalia apparently enjoys some of the local product from time to time and her and her friends were doing some regular trips to the bathroom. Got late and it was time for me to go and she wanted to come with me to make sure I got to the hotel ok (the Barbacoa area is not great). So we got there, she wanted to chill for a bit, I am ok sure. I started checking my email while she channel surfed. She turns on the porno channel, next thing I know I look to my right and her hand is in her pants and she is masturbating right next to me. To which she shyly apologized and asked me if I minded. I of course, want my guests to be as comfortable as possible so. Carry on babe. Next thing I know. After she had come once (maybe twice). I was pulled to join in. After that night we sexed a couple of more times.

Another night she invited me to stop by while she was working I did the same thing. Had a couple of drinks and sat there soaking the scene. Met this colombian chick who works in Chile (so she had her own cash. Bought me drinks yay). Who was visibly upset for being stood up at the bar by her gf. Anyways, I was just being nice trying to make her feel better and encourage her to meet some of the hotties in the bar. She was too shy. So I acted as intermediary to get her to dance with other girls (funny things is that some of those girls thought I was hitting on them. And appeared receptive. But I am only guessing). Long story short her and Natalia and me leave after the bar closes to to to an amanecedero. That I cannot remember the name of but it appears it was one for lesbos only. Good times there. Tons of eye candy and many curious looks my way (nothing hateful near as I can tell and a couple of smiles). So is time to go again. 6 am and I am tired. The chile Colombian does not know what to do still so she decides to come with me and Natalia to my apartment. She has been flirting with Natalia all night and tyring to grab her, Natalia does not seem to find her her type (very cute face but a bit chunky). Anyways, Nati is super wasted, we get to the apartment and she is just too wired so she asked me if is ok if she goes home. I am of course cool with that and give her a little money for taxi. Now what do I do with the chilean Colombian? I tell her that she can crash for a while before going if she wants and she says she would like that (her plane to Chile leaves that afternoon). So we crash. No big deal.

An hour later I awake with her pulling her pants down and blouse up and stimulating herself, next thing I know she goes in this frenzy and reaches for my cock and starts pulling it towards her backend. So I start pounding her doggie style. A couple of hours later she bid good bye on her way to her hotel to get ready for her flight.

Yep. Just like that. Sometimes is just a matter of not forcing the issue and just having a chill time. And good stuff will happen from time to time. Or at least interesting stuff. But I am sure that if I had gone with an agenda or if they thought I was trying to target them or convert them they would have either laughed or blowed me off in a hurry.

MdeJohn
07-16-14, 19:39
So where is your (most consistent) best experience for a spa / P4P? Have been here for a couple of years and it sucks that we don't have any good asian massage-type places, I. E. Start off with a nice table shower then quality massage and sex.

I thought Energy was going to be my new favorite place after a great (professional quality) massage on my first visit. Since then, every visit has been quick / half-assed massage. The strip clubs are nice for relaxing and getting to know the girl first but the girls just aren't trained to do a decent massage.

Has anyone tried the OMB Spa? I've heard mixed reports on whether they do happy endings or not.

Jll600
07-17-14, 00:02
No such thing as a non-pro in Colombia, their all fucken pros, just like there mothers and grandmothers, its in there breeding or DNA!!

A. G.I speak with a little experience even though I've only been to MDE twice. (Stayed at the Plaza both times and I highly recommend it for the MDE or Colombia novice.).

I've dated two Colombianas here in the USA over the past 9 months. One turned out to be cheating on her rich German 75 year old sugar daddy with me. So "check" yes a HO.

Current girlfriend is actually a very nice girl is studying here and hasnt asked for a dime from me. And appears not to be a HO. Yet. But still a pain sometimes as all latinas are. But she tells me that in her opinion is that an astonishing 70% of Colombian woman are "working" in one way or another whether they are married or not.

I checked this with a few other Colombianas I know here in the states and they agree.

Greg you are spot on.

Cheers mate.

C Jack Sparrow
07-17-14, 02:33
I speak with a little experience even though I've only been to MDE twice. (Stayed at the Plaza both times and I highly recommend it for the MDE or Colombia novice.).

I've dated two Colombianas here in the USA over the past 9 months. One turned out to be cheating on her rich German 75 year old sugar daddy with me. So "check" yes a HO.

Current girlfriend is actually a very nice girl is studying here and hasnt asked for a dime from me. And appears not to be a HO. Yet. But still a pain sometimes as all latinas are. But she tells me that in her opinion is that an astonishing 70% of Colombian woman are "working" in one way or another whether they are married or not.

I checked this with a few other Colombianas I know here in the states and they agree.

Greg you are spot on.

Cheers mate.I stand corrected.

There is no chance to find a Trophy Wife or a wife that is not "working".

My statistics won't help, no matter how logical they might seem!

I will go back to being a ordinary "New Life Guy".

It's the perfect deal.

No scams and great sex at very resonable prices.

The Romantic inside me got the upperhand for a while, put The Realist push him under the table again, where he must stay. As long as I stay in Medellin!

Cheers!

Legal Tender
07-17-14, 04:22
No such thing as a non-pro in Colombia, their all fucken pros, just like there mothers and grandmothers, its in there breeding or DNA!!

A. G.A. G. I read an undertone of Misogyny in your observations. I don't disagree, but that's true of all woman. Period! They all want security and protection. Some "give up the pleasure" with expectations of a life long commitment, or obtain satisfaction of their needs by selling their attention for a few hours, a few days, or. . . . That's true anywhere. It is in their DNA. Of all of the female species. Reminds me of a client that was literally a billionaire. One night over dinner he looked at his trophy wife and said: "Baby, if I lost it all, would you still love me. " Her response was: "Of course baby, I'll always love you. I'll really miss you, but I'll always love you. ".

We all have needs that we can't meet by ourselves. But, don't kid yourself. If you're in the position, for whatever reason, that you can't meet a woman's needs, she'll still love you, but really miss you, too.

Only good energy, amigo.

C Jack Sparrow
07-17-14, 05:26
http://nedavanovac.com/2010/02/02/love-for-profit-women-in-colombia/

BrasilSoccer0
07-17-14, 06:28
Just finished reading the article. Thanks for the link.

I agree 100%.


http://nedavanovac.com/2010/02/02/love-for-profit-women-in-colombia/

Vitrea
07-17-14, 11:55
So where is your (most consistent) best experience for a spa / P4P? Have been here for a couple of years and it sucks that we don't have any good asian massage-type places, I. E. Start off with a nice table shower then quality massage and sex.

I thought Energy was going to be my new favorite place after a great (professional quality) massage on my first visit. Since then, every visit has been quick / half-assed massage. The strip clubs are nice for relaxing and getting to know the girl first but the girls just aren't trained to do a decent massage.

Has anyone tried the OMB Spa? I've heard mixed reports on whether they do happy endings or not.OM spa is your place. Read my report on this thread.

Turgid
07-17-14, 15:29
So where is your (most consistent) best experience for a spa / P4P? Have been here for a couple of years and it sucks that we don't have any good asian massage-type places, I. E. Start off with a nice table shower then quality massage and sex.

I thought Energy was going to be my new favorite place after a great (professional quality) massage on my first visit. Since then, every visit has been quick / half-assed massage. The strip clubs are nice for relaxing and getting to know the girl first but the girls just aren't trained to do a decent massage.

Has anyone tried the OMB Spa? I've heard mixed reports on whether they do happy endings or not.The best massage I have got so far this trip from a provider has been from Veronica in Abydos.

Member #4394
07-17-14, 15:44
Statistics has nothing to do with logics. Stats "mathematically" show central tendency or a relationship.


I stand corrected.

My statistics won't help, no matter how logical they might seem!


Cheers!.

Hioctane
07-17-14, 19:38
A. G. I read an undertone of Misogyny in your observations. I don't disagree, but that's true of all woman. Period! They all want security and protection. Some "give up the pleasure" with expectations of a life long commitment, or obtain satisfaction of their needs by selling their attention for a few hours, a few days, or. . . . That's true anywhere. It is in their DNA. Of all of the female species. Reminds me of a client that was literally a billionaire. One night over dinner he looked at his trophy wife and said: "Baby, if I lost it all, would you still love me. " Her response was: "Of course baby, I'll always love you. I'll really miss you, but I'll always love you. ".

We all have needs that we can't meet by ourselves. But, don't kid yourself. If you're in the position, for whatever reason, that you can't meet a woman's needs, she'll still love you, but really miss you, too.

Only good energy, amigo.So I asked a novia this question and her response was "If I got fat and gained 100 lbs, would you still be with me?" All I could say was touche!

Rjsss212
07-18-14, 03:07
No such thing as a non-pro in Colombia, their all fucken pros, just like there mothers and grandmothers, its in there breeding or DNA!

A. G.No, what's in her genes is good looks. She's just lazy and uneducated in a morally corrupt country.

Almotu
07-18-14, 15:20
Zzzzzzz. I am sleeping well these days.

Niko Viitala
07-18-14, 17:01
Going to Medellin for couple of days, starting tomorrow. If anybody wants to meet in a club / gym / something, send me a message. First time in Colombia and I don't speak Spanish. Wish me luck. I think I am just going to pick up some cheap hotel in the centre.

Phunluv
07-19-14, 07:07
An hour later I awake with her pulling her pants down and blouse up and stimulating herself, next thing I know she goes in this frenzy and reaches for my cock and starts pulling it towards her backend. So I start pounding her doggie style. A couple of hours later she bid good bye on her way to her hotel to get ready for her flight.

Yep. Just like that. Sometimes is just a matter of not forcing the issue and just having a chill time. And good stuff will happen from time to time. Or at least interesting stuff. But I am sure that if I had gone with an agenda or if they thought I was trying to target them or convert them they would have either laughed or blowed me off in a hurry. Good stories. It took me awhile to accept this as I tend to be a very organized person, I like to go out in the evening with specific plans. But in Colombia, that's a recipe for frustration and failure. The non-pro Colombianas drove me crazy with their tardiness, flakiness, impulsiveness, etc. Now I just accept it for what it is; the best strategy is just to go with the flow and see what happens. The funny thing is that this lesbo Colombiana you hooked up with might not even give you the time of day should you ever run into her again, but no need to take it personally. That's just how these Colombianas tick.

So now I rarely bother to plan ahead more than one hour in advance. If you do set an appointment for the next day or much later the same day, assume at least a 50% chance it won't happen, and try to have a basic backup plan, and I do mean basic as the more involved / detailed your plans are, the more likely they won't pan out. In general, your best bet is to do something like what Concarne did; just be somewhere where there's lots of people and "catch a wave" so to speak.

I think this phenomena has to do with the history of this country. Life here in past decades was chaotic and uncertain (economically, socially, politically). The situation is much improved now, but the attitudes still carry over to the present day, especially in the social sphere. I suspect that people here have a cultural assumption that plans almost always fail, so better just to do whatever feels right at any given moment!

Legal Tender
07-19-14, 15:04
No, what's in her genes is good looks. She's just lazy and uneducated in a morally corrupt country.One's judgment says nothing about the judged and everything about the judge. "Morally corrupt" means nothing absent definition. Certainly those with a more Puritan belief system might judge Colombian women "morally corrupt" because the ease with which they except sex and simply being "naturale. " Of course, no one would be so twisted to bring Puritan beliefs to this board; to Colombia. In excess of 95 % of Colombians are baptized Roman Catholic. What you see practiced here is Christianity that's not infected by a preoccupation with pleasures of the flesh as being sinful or bad. Just natural.

Granted, the climate, the food, the genetics all contribute to some of the most beautiful and sexy women on God's earth. But to conclude they are "lazy" and "uneducated" is an opinion that is offensive simply because it's so wrong. Want to see lazy? Go the the USA And spend an hour in any Walmart. Fat, rude, carelessly dressed. Those are the "lazy" bitches. I love that these Colombian females from puberty to death dress to exhibit sex appeal and desirability. These women make sure they are as attractive as possible. Amigo, that's pride in their appearance and in their culture; that's not lazy.

Uneducated? Again, depends on definition. Colombia's average education is 5. 3 years and 12 years for Yankees. Most important to us, I respectfully suggest, is how "educated" these women are in giving the pleasures that only a woman can give (I don't write to denigrate gays, but I simply don't understand that attraction.) The Colombian women are taught from an early age that they have the power and ability to provide wonderful pleasures. I suggest that is being educated.

Digressing, I hope you rethink your attitude and how you think about the women of Colombia. Otherwise, I predict that the time you spend here will be less than fulfilling by any meaningful measure.

Only good energy, and as I write that I'm thinking of no less than a dozen girls that I know who could and would "get you mind right. " I hope it happens for you.

Member #4394
07-19-14, 16:52
I see the same way. Thanks for the insight.




I think this phenomena has to do with the history of this country. Life here in past decades was chaotic and uncertain (economically, socially, politically). The situation is much improved now, but the attitudes still carry over to the present day, especially in the social sphere. I suspect that people here have a cultural assumption that plans almost always fail, so better just to do whatever feels right at any given moment!.

Turgid
07-19-14, 16:55
No such thing as a non-pro in Colombia, their all fucken pros, just like there mothers and grandmothers, its in there breeding or DNA!

A. GThe same can be said of American women. I never met an American woman who did'nt want something material in exchange for sex whether immediately or sometime in the future. Who knows? Perhaps this is so the world over.

Sailor Jim
07-19-14, 20:17
It was English bro. What I said is that if you want to pay 10 bucks for a cute girl and have the time of your life, been treated like you are kind of handsome even though in your country you are average, you have a way better chance in Asia, NOT in Medellin (also Asian girls are not as hot as paisas for my personal taste). In Medellin requires invest more than that. But of course you also can get it, but just not for 20k COL. And that was an advise for any regular dude that goes over seas to get pussy, mostly because is cheaper and can't get it that easy in their own country. Is not a mystery that, that is the reason for many dudes here. Not mocking anybody, just trying to help and open eyes. Is Ok not to be an stud or a Casanova. 90% of the population in the planet we are in that part. So I don't have any tabus to talk about it. Is just normal and common, so please sensitive guys, do not get offended and just take a good advise like it is. (So many sensitive dudes fckk prozac is going bad hahaha)Catching up on posts and I know this was a while ago but let's face it. All of your posts those two months, well, you are selling something here. You have a massage place with a happy ending but you don't post the intel, making people PM you and divulge their email. Why? Every post where a guy get's laid with little effort and little $ you are saying, "That's not the norm! It costs a lot, that guy probably looks like Brad Pitt, etc etc". 'Or "Go to Asia if you want to pay cheap prices, etc. ".

Lets face it: You are putting guys in contact with "your girls" like David 33 in Lima, getting a cut or something out of it as these girls charge through the roof. Your posts about how expensive things are are just to get readers (new readers most likely) of this forum into the mindset of paying big bucks in order to sell "your girls".

C Jack Sparrow
07-20-14, 06:37
Catching up on posts and I know this was a while ago but let's face it. All of your posts those two months, well, you are selling something here. You have a massage place with a happy ending but you don't post the intel, making people PM you and divulge their email. Why? Every post where a guy get's laid with little effort and little $ you are saying, "That's not the norm! It costs a lot, that guy probably looks like Brad Pitt, etc etc". 'Or "Go to Asia if you want to pay cheap prices, etc. ".

Lets face it: You are putting guys in contact with "your girls" like David 33 in Lima, getting a cut or something out of it as these girls charge through the roof. Your posts about how expensive things are are just to get readers (new readers most likely) of this forum into the mindset of paying big bucks in order to sell "your girls".I want to share my view of Medellin.

A friend from the Spanish classes here yesterday said: Jack, we are in Paradise, here even the ugly girls are pretty!

Today I had a date going to Teatro Metropolitano with a very cute paisa. But she called in sick after I had bought the tickets!

The girl that helps me with the cleaning, who has become a friend over the last 2 months, then jumped in her place. Even she very pretty!

Well. It's so easy and so natural here. It just flows, even for the average guy in his 40's.

It's just an example. But it is how it is like here.

The girls are pretty and are approachable. I mean even girls that you never would approach back home.

I rarely see gringos here, so there is a lot of space left over. That if you not stay in Poblado / Parque Lleras.

Combo
07-20-14, 07:56
The same can be said of American women. I never met an American woman who did'nt want something material in exchange for sex whether immediately or sometime in the future. Who knows? Perhaps this is so the world over.That's just not true. Lots of women in the USA love to fuck solely for the enjoyment of fucking. The catch is they generally want to fuck guys close to their age or younger. But yes, for a hot 21 year old chick in the States to want to fuck a guy twice her age, she'll likely want to get something material out of it.

C Jack Sparrow
07-20-14, 10:20
That's just not true. Lots of women in the USA love to fuck solely for the enjoyment of fucking. The catch is they generally want to fuck guys close to their age or younger. But yes, for a hot 21 year old chick in the States to want to fuck a guy twice her age, she'll likely want to get something material out of it.No.

A lot of girls want to seduce her best friends daddy!

Just as in porn there's a very popular MILF section responding to young men's desire to be seduced by the hot mum of his friend.

Girls also have such dreams.

The problem with Anglo-Saxon men is that they consider themselves inferior towards females from the very start from their analysis.

Females also feel inferior to men.

The majority of successful persons are men.

A man that appears succesful or strong physically have a huge impoact on females.

They are just better hiding their secret wishes.

If females ruled porn there would be a lot of "FILF", "babysitters", etc.

You are really so naive that you think that girls sexuality only runs around money all the time?

There are no females here, even though Ango-Saxon starts with their constantly self-imposed limitation of abilities.

When you write 21 year old chick, you mean and WE READ a very HOT one.

But what about the average next door girl?

SavePros321
07-20-14, 14:51
I'm just wondering why he stopped posting under the other handle.

I distinctly remember when he was posting as Blanco Viking it was always the same Anglo Saxon this and that, coupled with the fucked up spelling of every other word (I'm positive English is not his first language); just like he is doing with his C Jack Sparrow handle.

Since most of he posts always read like a propaganda piece, I'm guessing that he is most likely from a former Eastern Bloc country.

Shamester
07-20-14, 16:19
US chicas will bang anyone that displays cash and drugs.

Age is unimportant. IMO it is a waste of time and money when places like Medellin exist which require much less resources. An erect penis is the biggest requirement. In the US it is called blue balls.

Turgid
07-20-14, 18:42
From my travels, Armenia should be high on a list of this type.I will have to check that out. I understand that you can catch a bus from Flota Occidental in Medellin to Salento and then get a connecting bus to Armenia.

C Jack Sparrow
07-20-14, 19:39
I'm just wondering why he stopped posting under the other handle.

I distinctly remember when he was posting as Blanco Viking it was always the same Anglo Saxon this and that, coupled with the fucked up spelling of every other word (I'm positive English is not his first language); just like he is doing with his C Jack Sparrow handle.

Since most of he posts always read like a propaganda piece, I'm guessing that he is most likely from a former Eastern Bloc country.I'm Nordic, hence Blanco Vikingo.

I have had 3-4 alias during a decade, all Pirate, Viking etc.

Blanco Vikingo retired. Since my interest come in waves.

Yes, I have a lifelong struggle with both Spanish and English. It is like that when you come from a small country, adopt or vanish!

Yes, I'm into cultural differences (actually it is historical differences in culture, institutions and mental capabilities amongst etnical groups, countires etc.).

The competition between Anglo-Saxon and Hispanics goes back to ca. 1400, but there has also been a profund political cooperation, especially between Britain and Portugal.

That's why I like to compare with the dominating culture.

Sexual self-restraint is often a strong component in the cultures that has had success historically, that is, if the individuals can canalize there energy into positive activitites.

Personally I prefer to LIVE and that's why I love Medellin and want to share this view with the guys, just like me before, are suffering HELL back home.

I don't know about Eastern Europe people and their propaganda writings.

Combo
07-20-14, 21:21
No.

A lot of girls want to seduce her best friends daddy!

Just as in porn there's a very popular MILF section responding to young men's desire to be seduced by the hot mum of his friend.

Girls also have such dreams.

The problem with Anglo-Saxon men is that they consider themselves inferior towards females from the very start from their analysis.

Females also feel inferior to men.

The majority of successful persons are men.

A man that appears succesful or strong physically have a huge impoact on females.

They are just better hiding their secret wishes.

If females ruled porn there would be a lot of "FILF", "babysitters", etc.

You are really so naive that you think that girls sexuality only runs around money all the time?

There are no females here, even though Ango-Saxon starts with their constantly self-imposed limitation of abilities.

When you write 21 year old chick, you mean and WE READ a very HOT one.

But what about the average next door girl?Seems you agree with me. Lots of women crave sex just as much as we do. Again the problem is if the type of chick you crave doesn't crave you. The solution is to pay (either explicitly through pay-for-play or implicity through a financially oriented relationship).

I used to have no problem fucking hot looking 22 year-olds. In fact, I had flings / relationships where the financial flow was to me. But now that I'm 50 years-old, those hot-looking 20 somethings aren't too interested in me (again unless it's financially advantageous to them).

Are there hot-looking 22 year-olds that would love to fuck a guy my age? Possibly a few, but they are a small minority. For most people, male or female, youth is beauty. Most of us are much more physically appealing in our 20's than in our 50's.

Vitrea
07-21-14, 03:33
I will have to check that out. I understand that you can catch a bus from Flota Occidental in Medellin to Salento and then get a connecting bus to Armenia.He meant the country of Armenia. The town of Armenia, CO is not a great destination for P4 P. It is decent for a one or two day visit but I would not recommend taking a bus trip looking for chicas.

Knowledge
07-22-14, 00:35
This is the funniest post I have read here in a long time.


US chicas will bang anyone that displays cash and drugs.

Age is unimportant. IMO it is a waste of time and money when places like Medellin exist which require much less resources. An erect penis is the biggest requirement. In the US it is called blue balls.

Dealdo
07-22-14, 05:02
Catching up on posts and I know this was a while ago but let's face it. All of your posts those two months, well, you are selling something here. You have a massage place with a happy ending but you don't post the intel, making people PM you and divulge their email. Why? Every post where a guy get's laid with little effort and little $ you are saying, "That's not the norm! It costs a lot, that guy probably looks like Brad Pitt, etc etc". 'Or "Go to Asia if you want to pay cheap prices, etc. ".

Lets face it: You are putting guys in contact with "your girls" like David 33 in Lima, getting a cut or something out of it as these girls charge through the roof. Your posts about how expensive things are are just to get readers (new readers most likely) of this forum into the mindset of paying big bucks in order to sell "your girls".You are right. Nobody is fooling you, you are fooling yourself. I do not sell chicks here or anywhere, and because of paranoid people like you I stopped recommending girls. You can see, I haven't reported anything anymore. So only my close friends stay in touch. And about all I said still thinking the same. Colombian girls don't have the worse taste on man in the world. If you don't have play, look or charm is just like anywhere else, you have to pay some way or another. And many dreamers already found that out after being played and fooled in many ways. The old gringos who are now locals here can tell you better than me. Good luck and next time please have some probes before crying out of being tricked.

C Jack Sparrow
07-22-14, 12:29
The SWs are at calle 30,33 and 40 . Gets dicier as the numbers increase. 30 you will find cleaner girls, 33 you will find a mix of "healthy" ones and glue huffers, 40 is the wild west. There are some gems to be found, but don't be surprised if on any given night it is dead.

The SWs at the bottom of Maracaibo and going across like Cra 50 or whatever, you can find them in the day, many on Sundays. I have never partaken. At night that area may have SWs, I have no idea. There are some strip bars (Conejas being the biggest) but most of them have lousy facilities and maybe two doable girls if you are lucky.I saw a MILF from a taxi on my way to Homecenter. Then walked back to Cra. 65 where I saw her. Bought some candy and left her a note; "You are very pretty. I would like to get to know you". And my cellnumber.

She called the next day. She came over, actually simultaneously as the Homecenter guy. We had a beer. Then we had a shower and bareback sex!

She did not ask for money or anything like that, but of course she got a propina of 100 mil, but she would have been happy with 50. I was generous since it was 50% helping her out, 50% pure sex. 50 mil if we repeat, and she will be happy with that. 100 mil "is more than than I make in 2 days" she said. She works everyday selling candy at the semafor, Monday-Sunday, 8 am-8 pm or more hours.

Very thin, but very sexy, the hottest candy seller in Medellin. I could just not resist, and I was lucky. And great bareback sex! Wow! But of course bareback is not my routine, actually it happens rarely.

She is from San Javier, 2 kids. I mean San Javier where it is really dangerous, as she described it.

From a sexclient view 100 mil was a fair price, bareback, great sex, no clock, just good everything. She would be hot working at New Life!

She maybe needs 3-4 days to make 100 mil. I think she tops 30 mil a day. Tops! So it is good money for her.

I will continue this way, becuase it was very exciting. It was an Kamikaze Impuls. More likely to we a total failure, but this this it went great great.

So beware Candyselling MILFs of Medellin streets, here comes The Vikings & SexPirates.

The Old Good Jack Sparrow is back!

BiggCommish
07-22-14, 13:45
Anyone who is in town or will be over the next 10 days that wants to ParTEE let me know. I am fluent and have been at this for 15 years. Not well versed on MDE but I had a lot of fun last trip and expect this one will be even better.

Bijou
07-22-14, 17:39
Can anyone that is experienced in living / visiting MDE during the flower festival give any input on:

1. availability / prices of girls in clubs, casas, la mayorista during this time?

2. business hours / entrance fees for casas and clubs stay the same during this time?

3. would this be a good or bad time to go to MDE for the first time when taking in to account the crowds / traffic during this time?

I'm considering going to MDE for the first time during the second week of August and realize that this is during the flower festival in MDE. I've read RTFF going back 2 years and really didn't get clear answers to the above questions, so anybody care to help?

Thanks.

SavePros321
07-22-14, 18:04
Can anyone that is experienced in living / visiting MDE during the flower festival give any input on:

1. availability / prices of girls in clubs, casas, la mayorista during this time?

2. business hours / entrance fees for casas and clubs stay the same during this time?

3. would this be a good or bad time to go to MDE for the first time when taking in to account the crowds / traffic during this time?

I'm considering going to MDE for the first time during the second week of August and realize that this is during the flower festival in MDE. I've read RTFF going back 2 years and really didn't get clear answers to the above questions, so anybody care to help?

Thanks.I haven't been during this time, but from others that I have spoken with that have been just expect everything (hotels, apartment rentals, restaurants, chicas, clubs, etc.) to be inflated by 100%; just like with what happens around Carnival in Rio de Janiero. Also do not be surprised to find that most of the hotels and apartments are possibly fully booked at this point (if you haven't locked in anything already).

Probably also can expect your favorita to be more busier than normal as well. Not just from working the influx of extrajernos, but from hanging with family and friends at the parades during the day, and partying at night.

If you have the option, just wait until about a week or two after the flower festival is over. The chicas will be fresh and looking to recoup all the tuition and school book money they blew on partying hard during the festivals.

Bijou
07-22-14, 19:07
I haven't been during this time, but from others that I have spoken with that have been just expect everything (hotels, apartment rentals, restaurants, chicas, clubs, etc.) to be inflated by 100%; just like with what happens around Carnival in Rio de Janiero. Also do not be surprised to find that most of the hotels and apartments are possibly fully booked at this point (if you haven't locked in anything already).

Probably also can expect your favorita to be more busier than normal as well. Not just from working the influx of extrajernos, but from hanging with family and friends at the parades during the day, and partying at night.

If you have the option, just wait until about a week or two after the flower festival is over. The chicas will be fresh and looking to recoup all the tuition and school book money they blew on partying hard during the festivals.I knew prices would be inflated, but didn't know about the availability of the girls. I think I'll wait. Thanks for your input.

Hioctane
07-22-14, 20:05
I haven't been during this time, but from others that I have spoken with that have been just expect everything (hotels, apartment rentals, restaurants, chicas, clubs, etc.) to be inflated by 100%; just like with what happens around Carnival in Rio de Janiero. Also do not be surprised to find that most of the hotels and apartments are possibly fully booked at this point (if you haven't locked in anything already).

Probably also can expect your favorita to be more busier than normal as well. Not just from working the influx of extrajernos, but from hanging with family and friends at the parades during the day, and partying at night.

If you have the option, just wait until about a week or two after the flower festival is over. The chicas will be fresh and looking to recoup all the tuition and school book money they blew on partying hard during the festivals.Rentals are not that bad in Medellin. Unlike Rio. They usually increase rates only by about 10%. Chicas will charge the same. However, you should definitely book way in advance during this time.

BeersTerry
07-23-14, 02:21
It is congested, lots of traffic. More so that it is now.

The crazy Cabalgata, if there was ever a reason to go to the Feria de Flores is no more. Too many horses stressed out and dying or something like that.

RiceRocket99
07-23-14, 02:37
I was in Medellin during the Feria last year and attended the parade with all the crowds and craziness with a chica and it was one hell of an experience in a cool way. I like crowds, but it was definitely freaking packed. Trying to get out of there hailing a taxi, good luck with that. I'll be there again starting this weekend and I was able to book an apt without a huge price increase (10% at most I'll say, no way it's 100% Chica prices don't change unless you let it and yes most will have family obligations, but I imagine that it's only for a day or two. Similar to the obligatory Thanksgiving family dinner and then it's back to gringo land. I'll be at the mansion this weekend with a first timer fellow chino of mine and then off to apt. I'll throw in a quick TR by then. Cheers!


Rentals are not that bad in Medellin. Unlike Rio. They usually increase rates only by about 10%. Chicas will charge the same. However, you should definitely book way in advance during this time.

Aussie Greg
07-24-14, 04:31
Just my view.


Can anyone that is experienced in living / visiting MDE during the flower festival give any input on:

1. availability / prices of girls in clubs, casas, la mayorista during this time?
A.G
Same as any other time but more tourists and business people in town.

2. business hours / entrance fees for casas and clubs stay the same during this time?
A.G.
Yep.

3. would this be a good or bad time to go to MDE for the first time when taking in to account the crowds / traffic during this time?
A.G.
The best time, equal to Halloween but the Feria de las Florist is over 10 days or so.
Right now is Colombiamoda, a large fashion show going on for three days, the best of the best.
I was on a flight today coming back from Pereira and the plane was full of beautiful girls coming over for the CM, I don't think they were putas but hey, every girl here in Colombia has her price.

I'm considering going to MDE for the first time during the second week of August and realize that this is during the flower festival in MDE. I've read RTFF going back 2 years and really didn't get clear answers to the above questions, so anybody care to help?
A.G
Ive tried.

A.G.

Thanks.

Vegas Jeff
07-24-14, 07:55
Can anyone that is experienced in living / visiting MDE during the flower festival give any input on:

1. availability / prices of girls in clubs, casas, la mayorista during this time?

2. business hours / entrance fees for casas and clubs stay the same during this time?

3. would this be a good or bad time to go to MDE for the first time when taking in to account the crowds / traffic during this time?

I'm considering going to MDE for the first time during the second week of August and realize that this is during the flower festival in MDE. I've read RTFF going back 2 years and really didn't get clear answers to the above questions, so anybody care to help?

Thanks.Hey Bijou,

If you are coming during the second week of August you shouldn't be affected by The Flower Festival much, if at all. If I am not mistaken the parade is on August 10th the final day.

If it were my first trip, and I was looking at Medellin as a destination and it fell during these dates, I would still go. You will notice the event is going on but will only be affected in minor ways, if at all.

This is just a minor tax to be paid for tourists visiting during this time. Many people visit during this time for legitimate reasons while tourists pay a tax and receive little benefit.

The only reason this event stands out is because there is nothing notable in Medellin. If this event was in Miami there would be minimal interest.

I don't see any difference in Medellin year round. Lots of uneducated, poor people that want to work. Lots of hot girls and not enough jobs to pay the bills. Round and round the record goes.

Other than a day here and a day there, the working girls are still around and aren't hard to find.

Bijou
07-24-14, 17:07
Thanks to all that gave responses to my question regarding MDE during the flower festival. Since the festival ends on August 10 and I am planning to arrive in BOG on the 6th, I will probably go check out some other cities first and then get to MDE around the 11th or 12th because I would like to spend a few days exploring the MDE scene.

Again thanks for the useful feedback.

DrWasabee
07-25-14, 03:27
Had a blast last trip heading for MDE the week of the 28th till 2nd than off to Santa Marta region for a few days for some beach action. Anyone looking for a running buddy that week hit me up.

Member #4244
07-25-14, 05:35
Catching up on posts and I know this was a while ago but let's face it. All of your posts those two months, well, you are selling something here. You have a massage place with a happy ending but you don't post the intel, making people PM you and divulge their email. Why? Every post where a guy get's laid with little effort and little $ you are saying, "That's not the norm! It costs a lot, that guy probably looks like Brad Pitt, etc etc". 'Or "Go to Asia if you want to pay cheap prices, etc. ".

Lets face it: You are putting guys in contact with "your girls" like David 33 in Lima, getting a cut or something out of it as these girls charge through the roof. Your posts about how expensive things are are just to get readers (new readers most likely) of this forum into the mindset of paying big bucks in order to sell "your girls".First of all, David33 DOES NOT RECEIVE A CUT FROM THE GIRLS. He doesn't "get things" out of the girls even. I would share a story to illustrate this, but I am increasingly wary of sharing anything here.

Secondly, Dealdo will deliver information via email and if that is how he decides to do it, that is his choice. You can make a dummy email address in ten seconds if you are worried about it. I will say that when I talked to him, the girls he referred me to were definitely pros (not exactly billed as such) but whatever. I am not one to fuss over distinctions such as non-pro, semi-pro and pro. This is not the Olympics.

Member #4244
07-25-14, 13:02
Hmmm, Jesus, can a old fart be paranoid!

I trust SailorJim 100%.

These guys are not our friends, they want to profit on us normal guys.

Why put such strong effort on denying a thing that is so obvious.

Incognito these guys make money without lifting a finger. It's the perfect crime. No identity, no tax, no nothing. Just pure $$ flowing from us normal guys that just want to have a good time!

I agree 100% with SailorJim on this one. We normal guys could have made it. Easily!

But we have ethics!Will you shut the fuck up, you drunk, illiterate sack of cocks? Who is an "old fart?" LOL. I thought you already knew my age since you PM'ed me on some creep shit saying you'd been poking around my Facebook to defend the honour of some crafty Paisa who wanted your million pesos. You are a weird, creepy, likely drunk and almost certainly mentally ill person. If I see you in the street, you better duck, motherfucker.

In a related matter, this is my last post on ISG. It's been cool knowing (some of) you.

SlickVick
07-25-14, 22:14
Hey guys,

Posted a while back on me getting out there for the first time ever. Thanks for the tips and those that messaged me. Great info. I'll keep it simple on this question, but I am in the process of booking and wondering which area is ideal for.

1. Comfort.

2. Close to the action.

3. Safe.

4. Girl friendly.

I see options for laureles, el poblado and estadio.

Also, how is the weather in September and October. I see that the cost of travel is significantly lower those months.

SavePros321
07-25-14, 23:45
Hey guys,

Posted a while back on me getting out there for the first time ever. Thanks for the tips and those that messaged me. Great info. I'll keep it simple on this question, but I am in the process of booking and wondering which area is ideal for.

1. Comfort.
Can't go wrong with any of the location options you mentioned.



2. Close to the action.
Sort of a misnomer since most of the time you are having the action come to you. Are you referring to Casas or Strip Clubs?



3. Safe.
You should be good to go with either of the three locations you mentioned.



4. Girl friendly.
You won't have any problems if you are staying in an apartment. I do not know of any girl friendly hotels because I do not stay in them.

SlickVick
07-26-14, 02:01
Can't go wrong with any of the location options you mentioned.

Sort of a misnomer since most of the time you are having the action come to you. Are you referring to Casas or Strip Clubs?

You should be good to go with either of the three locations you mentioned.

You won't have any problems if you are staying in an apartment. I do not know of any girl friendly hotels because I do not stay in them.Savepros, thanks. Yes I am referring to casas and strip clubs. I would typically rather go to strip clubs and have the action come to me.

What source is a good way to go for getting an apartment and any recommendations?

SlickVick
07-26-14, 04:48
Being a first timer, you can RTFF but sometimes it seems the cabbies can get you where you need to be. How open is it out there that you get in a cab and say get me to the best strip joint, bar, place to meet girls etc. ?

Also, I'm pretty laid back and wouldn't mind hanging out at a nice lounge and try my luck with civvies. That will be one of my goals this trip.

SavePros321
07-26-14, 06:59
Savepros, thanks. Yes I am referring to casas and strip clubs. I would typically rather go to strip clubs and have the action come to me.

What source is a good way to go for getting an apartment and any recommendations?http://www.pobladorentals.com/index.php?f=2&mid=1

The owner is a member of this forum (BBrocs). Just send him a PM and he'll set you up. Hopefully you know a good amount of Spanish or have your own guide to get around because he does not do any hand-holding.

If this is your first time going to Medellin, then I would recommend you stay at Hotel Medellin Plaza. The WILL hold your hand, LOL. Read my post which is a quick overview of the place. The forum is acting screwy again, so posting the link to it won't help as it will not take you directly to the post. But I posted it on 01-06-14 in THIS forum, and it is post #13608.


Being a first timer, you can RTFF but sometimes it seems the cabbies can get you where you need to be. How open is it out there that you get in a cab and say get me to the best strip joint, bar, place to meet girls etc. ?


Find the Medellin Chica Guide posted by WorldTravel 69 in the Medellin List forum. It has a list of recommended drivers. You are going to have to take the time to dig for it because it gets buried under other posts.

It would be good if there was a refresh of the recommended drivers listed though. Some may not still be available; some may have started off good and are now terrible, etc.

C Jack Sparrow
07-28-14, 02:44
This was a pure ten.

Price 130.000.

I added (afterwards and very happy 70.000 for BBBJ and the superb service).

Yes I would repeat everyday!

She is stunning, tall 170-, 175 with tacones. Big firm breasts, good curves, much flesh, but not fat, like an Colombian brunnette Marilyn Monroe.

SHe did blaha bla about oral and erxtra. I asked on the phone " hmm, I must ask, I know you donåt a lday so, but, can I get BBBJ for a propina. Yes, of course, she replied".

This is not usual among the upperclass babes.

BBBJ was suberb. Everything was great!

She has a mate in the apartment: http://masajistaspaisas.com/danna-apartamento-poblado-nueva-prepagos-100922.html.

I must say that Karol looked much better in real life than on photos. And THAT is unusual!!

Must see Danna also. Maybe will have novia soon. So mja, ending my Putonero carreer.

Vitrea
07-28-14, 02:53
This was a pure ten.

Price 130.000.

I added (afterwards and very happy 70.000 for BBBJ and the superb service).

Yes I would repeat everyday!

She is stunning, tall 170-, 175 with tacones. Big firm breasts, good curves, much flesh, but not fat, like an Colombian brunnette Marilyn Monroe.

SHe did blaha bla about oral and erxtra. I asked on the phone " hmm, I must ask, I know you dont a lday so, but, can I get BBBJ for a propina. Yes, of course, she replied".

This is not usual among the upperclass babes.

BBBJ was suberb. Everything was great!

She has a mate in the apartment: http://masajistaspaisas.com/danna-apartamento-poblado-nueva-prepagos-100922.html.

I must say that Karol looked much better in real life than on photos. And THAT is unusual!!

Must see Danna also. Maybe will have novia soon. So mja, ending my Putonero carreer.Thank you and thank you. Finally a report on the reports thread. That too of top shelf quality. Nice.

SlickVick
07-28-14, 17:28
Savepros and others that have given some advice. Thanks.

I have been researching the site as well as others in general. I have seen some photos and places that have me think I just might get hooked on this place!

I am hooked on Tijuana but am ready to expand a bit further. Oddly enough living in the midwest depending on the time I go, I can get to Colombia for only about $80 more than I can to San Diego.

I might make this a new favorite if it goes well. Even though I really love the ease and atmosphere of Tijuana.

I have read the best route to hook up with girls is to go is FB but I have found that to be challenging. I have read the replies to this question before so I won't bother asking again but unless you have made an initial connection by being there it isn't that easy.

On the other hand, I have found some escort agencies that I would imagine are much better and easier. Prices seem a little more than I thought but still fair. Is there any one in particular that is recommended? I am much more an escort to the room that a casas type of guy.

I have already looked into apartment rentals and that is MUCH more what I have in mind than a regular hotel.

I am going solo but am considering a rental with a BBQ as I am a huge grilling watching sports kind of guy. I'd love to go to a grocery store, get some steaks, brews and have a girl over for a great afternoon. Hopefully I can meet one that is economical and willing to accomadate. I would imagine it would be a girl met on the street as opposed to an agency.

This is getting more exciting by the minute.

TweedleD
07-28-14, 22:59
Savepros and others that have given some advice. Thanks.

I have been researching the site as well as others in general. I have seen some photos and places that have me think I just might get hooked on this place!

I am hooked on Tijuana but am ready to expand a bit further. Oddly enough living in the midwest depending on the time I go, I can get to Colombia for only about $80 more than I can to San Diego.

I might make this a new favorite if it goes well. Even though I really love the ease and atmosphere of Tijuana.

I have read the best route to hook up with girls is to go is FB but I have found that to be challenging. I have read the replies to this question before so I won't bother asking again but unless you have made an initial connection by being there it isn't that easy.

On the other hand, I have found some escort agencies that I would imagine are much better and easier. Prices seem a little more than I thought but still fair. Is there any one in particular that is recommended? I am much more an escort to the room that a casas type of guy.

I have already looked into apartment rentals and that is MUCH more what I have in mind than a regular hotel.

I am going solo but am considering a rental with a BBQ as I am a huge grilling watching sports kind of guy. I'd love to go to a grocery store, get some steaks, brews and have a girl over for a great afternoon. Hopefully I can meet one that is economical and willing to accomadate. I would imagine it would be a girl met on the street as opposed to an agency.

This is getting more exciting by the minute.A day or two with this guy might help you get oriented www.colombiajake.com.

MdeJohn
07-29-14, 03:20
Savepros and others that have given some advice. Thanks.

I have been researching the site as well as others in general. I have seen some photos and places that have me think I just might get hooked on this place!

I am hooked on Tijuana but am ready to expand a bit further. Oddly enough living in the midwest depending on the time I go, I can get to Colombia for only about $80 more than I can to San Diego.

I might make this a new favorite if it goes well. Even though I really love the ease and atmosphere of Tijuana.

I have read the best route to hook up with girls is to go is FB but I have found that to be challenging. I have read the replies to this question before so I won't bother asking again but unless you have made an initial connection by being there it isn't that easy..Tijuana is great and I actually prefer it to Medellin for the short-term mongering. I found the escorts more friendly and Calle Revolucion is amazing. For living though, Medellin is clearly the winner though I don't know how you're getting tickets for just $80 more than San Diego. For me it was about three times as much plus the extra 8 hours flight time but no matter.

I've had the same experience with FB. It's a waste of time. Many of the girls have no experience and think they can make a quick buck. Half will not show up for a date and they'll expect two or three times as much for crappy performance.

The escort agencies are hit and miss. Most are no better than the girls in the casas or clubs and will cost twice as much. Best bet is to try out an hour and then try taking the best out for a date some time.

For the short-timer just visiting, I recommend getting an account on some of the dating sites. Talk to a few girls around a month ahead of coming. Let them know that you are planning a trip and looking for someone to show you around. This will line you up with a few non-pro girls to go out and spend some time. Don't expect sex unless they are obviously prepagos. When you get here, there are plenty of casas and strip clubs to pick up professionals. If you want, you can take them out as well but it will cost you more than a regular girl. Not everyone's strategy but I liked (when I only came for visits) the difference in company.

Colombia Jake
07-29-14, 04:08
Http://www.colombiajake.com/I really don't believe there are guys who have no interest in ever meeting someone to fall in love with, but rather Monger like me during the in between times which can be long periods. By all means lets hammer away until the day some lucky lady arrives! I have met hard monger guys who claim they have no interest in anything more, but having the same mentality even if its a fresh set of legs everyday is still the same old same old. Having a balance I think is Ideal, and by that I mean I'm here to make sure you get lot of tail first and foremost, but I also hope you have an open mind to letting something more happen if it comes together too. I've gone to the other extreme for the last 6 months of being too focused on my relationship which has become the same old same old, but I think its time to balance things out with some solid mongering!

Colombia Jake

Rob Hay
07-29-14, 17:41
I've been to all of these countries and have to agree completely that Ukraine is 1. I just spent two weeks there and am about to go back soon for a month. I would put Colombia / Venezuela higher on the list than certainly Italy and Argentina. But its a pretty decent list for sure.


"They are not bad looking, and a few of them look gorgeous. But in any countries, there will be some beautiful ladies. Probably, this is a matter of taste. ".

From my travels my rating of the ten countries with the most beautiful women worldwide is as follows, starting with the most beautiful:

(1) Ukraine.

(2) Russia.

(3) Sweden.

(4) Italy.

(5) Argentina.

(6) Japan.

(7) Brazil.

(8) Colombia.

(9) Venezuela.

(10) China.

Member #4351
07-29-14, 17:56
Lets face it: You are putting guys in contact with "your girls" like David 33 in Lima, getting a cut or something out of it as these girls charge through the roof. I just read this. Do I know you? Have you been to Peru? Have you experienced that the girls I know "charge through the roof? Have you personally met anyone who said I make money or get freebees? Do you have a problem with a forum member helping out other guys and not asking for anything in return? ISG members help me out when I travel to other countries. That's good enough for me.

SlickVick
07-29-14, 19:20
Tijuana is great and I actually prefer it to Medellin for the short-term mongering. I found the escorts more friendly and Calle Revolucion is amazing. For living though, Medellin is clearly the winner though I don't know how you're getting tickets for just $80 more than San Diego. For me it was about three times as much plus the extra 8 hours flight time but no matter.

I've had the same experience with FB. It's a waste of time. Many of the girls have no experience and think they can make a quick buck. Half will not show up for a date and they'll expect two or three times as much for crappy performance.

The escort agencies are hit and miss. Most are no better than the girls in the casas or clubs and will cost twice as much. Best bet is to try out an hour and then try taking the best out for a date some time.

For the short-timer just visiting, I recommend getting an account on some of the dating sites. Talk to a few girls around a month ahead of coming. Let them know that you are planning a trip and looking for someone to show you around. This will line you up with a few non-pro girls to go out and spend some time. Don't expect sex unless they are obviously prepagos. When you get here, there are plenty of casas and strip clubs to pick up professionals. If you want, you can take them out as well but it will cost you more than a regular girl. Not everyone's strategy but I liked (when I only came for visits) the difference in company.Thanks for the advice. It certainly saves a lot of time. I actually looked into going the dating site route, but on colombian cupid dot com, they ask for a legit photo I'd. I am not sure about all of that.

I like to mix it up and someone to show me around isn't a bad idea. I want to explore the city as much as I want to explore the girls in it!

If all else fails I can always do the strip club scene.

Papi Que Rico
07-29-14, 23:34
Like any other method, finding chicas on facebook can be hit or miss. I've had decent success finding a couple of chicas who are not part of the Mansion / FB crew. They are a little less jaded, a little less costosa and a little less"trianed" which can be both good and bad. One or two also had the common sense to realize that they could leverage their contact with me and my friends into fun and profit for them and their friends.

I've found that the best approach with the FB chicas is to begin to establish a bit of connection with brief chats in the months before a visit. Then, a week or two before you travel, speak frankly with them about what you are looking for. A few will be offended but none will be shocked. This isn't the US. Also, if a couple get pissed off at you who cares? Best to find out who is game before you arrive and waste time. I usually am only in MED for a week. I don't have the time or patience to try to date non working girls.

Dccpa
07-30-14, 00:02
I just read this. Do I know you? Have you been to Peru? Have you experienced that the girls I know "charge through the roof? Have you personally met anyone who said I make money or get freebees? Do you have a problem with a forum member helping out other guys and not asking for anything in return? ISG members help me out when I travel to other countries. That's good enough for me.David just ignore him. There have been too many reports over the years of what you have done for others. With the internet, people can say anything anonymously. Some posters cannot understand that some people are generous souls and like to help others. They will likely never understand and that is their problem, not yours.

BrasilSoccer0
07-30-14, 01:48
PapiQrico,

Friend me on Facebook. I want to get into this leveraging business too. LOL.

P. s: just kidding ya.


Like any other method, finding chicas on facebook can be hit or miss. I've had decent success finding a couple of chicas who are not part of the Mansion / FB crew. They are a little less jaded, a little less costosa and a little less"trianed" which can be both good and bad. One or two also had the common sense to realize that they could leverage their contact with me and my friends into fun and profit for them and their friends.

I've found that the best approach with the FB chicas is to begin to establish a bit of connection with brief chats in the months before a visit. Then, a week or two before you travel, speak frankly with them about what you are looking for. A few will be offended but none will be shocked. This isn't the US. Also, if a couple get pissed off at you who cares? Best to find out who is game before you arrive and waste time. I usually am only in MED for a week. I don't have the time or patience to try to date non working girls.

DrWasabee
07-30-14, 04:59
Hit Aiffe about 11 am only 3 girls all about 6's didn't feel like hiking all over the place so I settled for 1 37 k for 30 minutes plus 20 k propina for lame BBBJ. Explored the streets of centro there was very little talent, went back to crash pad at Alacaravan walked around the corner found a doable duo negotiated 30 k each with lezbo show got them a small bottle of fire water and 10 k each propina for BBBJ total damage under 100 k. Girls were about 6's as well but I did have a good time and lezbo show was good both 20 yos one blonde with glasses thin nice natural B cups other black hair average build. Going to step up tomorrow and hit something nicer.

Member #4394
07-30-14, 17:25
11 am may be a little too early for the casas. Glad to hear about the actions at Mayorista.


Hit Aiffe about 11 am only 3 girls all about 6's didn't feel like hiking all over the place so I settled for 1 37 k for 30 minutes plus 20 k propina for lame BBBJ. Explored the streets of centro there was very little talent, went back to crash pad at Alacaravan walked around the corner found a doable duo negotiated 30 k each with lezbo show got them a small bottle of fire water and 10 k each propina for BBBJ total damage under 100 k. Girls were about 6's as well but I did have a good time and lezbo show was good both 20 yos one blonde with glasses thin nice natural B cups other black hair average build. Going to step up tomorrow and hit something nicer..

Aussie Greg
07-31-14, 01:13
Hotel Medellin Plaza has been sold to Hotel M.

A. G.

Orgasmico
07-31-14, 02:34
Hotel Medellin Plaza has been sold to Hotel M.

A. G.You guys sold it to yourself?

DrWasabee
07-31-14, 06:15
Had an early dental appointment afterwards went to check out club de Amigas paid the 2 k viewing tax checked out the line up of 6 went with Samantha seemed like she had a nice rack but when se undid her top the tits flopped down oh well, upgraded to BBBJ for 20 k total service was ok total damage 57 k. Later on after dinner I took a quick walk around the corner of the Alcaravan saw about 20+ girls ranging from 3's to 7's ended up meeting Natalie couldn't resist it was just too convenient nice looking dirty blonde wouldn't go for BBBJ so just went with a regular session 40 k hopefully tomorrow I'll check something different out.

Turgid
07-31-14, 14:18
Just completed a very enjoyable three week visit to Medellin. I really love this city. Basically I made multiple visits to three casas, Energy, New Life and Abydos. Even so there was talent in all three casas that I wanted to sample but could not because time did not permit. It appears to me that the women of Medellin have gotten even more beautiful than what I recall from my previous visit a few years ago. Every day I was astounded by some amazingly gorgeous hotties on the streets. As solid as the talent was in the casas they come no way near what one sees walking the calles and carreras. The really hot Paisas do not go anywhere near the casas, clubs or escort agencies. In spite of this the pros are hotter than those of most other cities; what a country!

FoxesHunter
07-31-14, 15:14
Sometime I read about Face2! What is this precisey? Is it like Facebook?

Big Dogie
07-31-14, 16:14
Sometime I read about Face2! What is this precisey? Is it like Facebook?It's a strip joint, with short time rooms beside it.

BD

Aussie Greg
07-31-14, 16:57
No, but we still hang out here!!

A. G.


You guys sold it to yourself?

Almotu
07-31-14, 17:04
Sometime I read about Face2! What is this precisey? Is it like Facebook?Fase Dos is a mid-level strip joint located near Premium Plaza Mall in the Barrio Colombia neighborhood. It is near the monger-friendly Liquid (Lounge) Strip plus popular dance / reggaeton clubs like Karma and Luxury. Probably every taxi driver that comes thru the Poblado / Lleras area will know how to get there.

I am attaching exterior photos from August 2013.

LobbyMan
07-31-14, 17:59
Hotel Medellin Plaza has been sold to Hotel M.

A. G.How will this impact (if at all) guests with current reservations?

Thanks,

Lobby

Ransu1
07-31-14, 18:57
Hotel Medellin Plaza has been sold to Hotel M.

A. G.Are there any changes with the new owners?

Is this maybe why I haven't received a reply to my reservation request via the website?

Colombia Jake
07-31-14, 19:41
A day or two with this guy might help you get oriented www.colombiajake.com.Wow what an incredible day yesterday! After deciding to open up to a little extra loving on the side, I went out to my old hunting ground on the metro! After riding up and grabbing a number, I got off at Acevado station and of course found another chica on top of the stairs. Another when I got back on and rode to the end could have kept going but, I remembered I had my happy ending message girl coming to my Hotel at 4 30 pm. Great naked message ensued and yes, I had to tell her a few times what I wanted and what areas I wanted her naked body to work which she was happy to incorporate followed by a light touch all over the area she had just completed just fabulous! During this time I had to break a few times to complete the back and forth via WhatsApp with a new date for the night named Maria Jose. Special artsy girl who has traveled a few times to Peru and speaks some English. Wow guys she had not shown interest when I met her three years ago but the boyfriend is finished, and she needs some college money as well as takes care of her older mother who can't work anymore. The new beautiful body and the complete inhibition which is so incredible compared to all those years with all those stiff American girls and the newness after being just with my girlfriend for so long was out of sight! Come experience the Happy ending cute message girl and Jose Maria here she is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ccyt8E3jHw Right at 4 minutes in is an interview with a guy named Henry Lou that had me laughing and she kept asking me why am I laughing so hard! One of those things she wouldn't understand but dude is definitely whacked funny! Come hang with me here in Medellin and let me put you through the message and hot girl treatment.

Colombia Jake

RockTimes
08-01-14, 00:11
Sorry, I am a newbie, will be in Medellin in 48 hour.

I can not go back to long thread since 2006 because of time issue.

Last time somewhere in 2006, it did mention Loutron was moving to a new location.

My question is it is still open or close? And what is the current location?

Thank you

DrWasabee
08-01-14, 02:00
I was on my way to el centro via metro to check out a Casa or two when I spotted this girl on the metro I thought she might have been checking me out but couldn't tell because she was wearing sunglasses as luck had it she got off at Centro as well. I figured I kinda stalked her for a minute getting up my courage to talk to her thought WTF I'll give it a shot oh by the way my Spanish is pretty lousy but I had my IPad mini with me and used a translation app. Walked around with her for a bit and was trying to get a feel for weather she was a working girl or not she told me she lived in a village which was a two hour bus ride away from one of the metro stops. Anyways this girls was just my type a little spinner 21 yo very cute she agreed to come to my place to spend the night no money was discussed however I did offer to buy her an outfit set me back 35 k and took her out to dinner we came back to my place and went at it. She is still here by my side sleeping wow I love Colombia. And the ironic thing is that her name is Maria Jose the same name but a diiferent girl that CJ just reported on.

BrasilSoccer0
08-01-14, 06:25
You need to back up you're fairy tales with photos!

Those of us who been to Medellin don't pull an iPad mini out in the open in el centro!

I highly doubt it if ANYONE other than newbies believe your tales!


I was on my way to el centro via metro to check out a Casa or two when I spotted this girl on the metro I thought she might have been checking me out but couldn't tell because she was wearing sunglasses as luck had it she got off at Centro as well. I figured I kinda stalked her for a minute getting up my courage to talk to her thought WTF I'll give it a shot oh by the way my Spanish is pretty lousy but I had my IPad mini with me and used a translation app. Walked around with her for a bit and was trying to get a feel for weather she was a working girl or not she told me she lived in a village which was a two hour bus ride away from one of the metro stops. Anyways this girls was just my type a little spinner 21 yo very cute she agreed to come to my place to spend the night no money was discussed however I did offer to buy her an outfit set me back 35 k and took her out to dinner we came back to my place and went at it. She is still here by my side sleeping wow I love Colombia. And the ironic thing is that her name is Maria Jose the same name but a diiferent girl that CJ just reported on.

C Jack Sparrow
08-01-14, 07:08
I just had supersex with Geraldine in my Laureles apartment.

She is an awesome, delicious, pretty girl, Charlize Theron 8/9 of 10, as in The Devils Advocate 1997, with permanent curly hair, supercute and, as girls can be here, mature for her 18 years.

I will walk the line, I will go for it, Hagale!.

Geraldine has the best best ratio thin waist / hardass / muscular aerobics legs I have ever been familiar with. No surgery. And no need for it.

Well this happend in Medellin, but she is invited from Villavicencio.

She has been to Cartagena recently, without her family or amigas, hence she is used to meet middleage men like me, despite of her age she feels very natural to socialize with.

She is in it for adventure I think, while I'm in love.

I mean she is ever better than Yeraldin, my x-prepago friend here in Medellin, which I consider to be the most sexy of all girls in Latinamerica since 2003, I mean of all 3-400 and +20 girlfriends and amigas con derechos.

Geraldine 8. 8 points, Yeraldin 8. 77 points. That is Ass Good Ass It Gets. For me it is.

Internet has brought many disasters in my way, but also a lot of good things. I take the risks, since if I do, I hope to meet that Perfect 10, in my world she already is.

Geraldine might be The last One. But problably she is here as part of her "training".

Supersex, for free! .

Fantastico! Genial!

DrWasabee
08-01-14, 15:17
You need to back up you're fairy tales with photos!

Those of us who been to Medellin don't pull an iPad mini out in the open in el centro!

I highly doubt it if ANYONE other than newbies believe your tales!While I was using my IPad the girl kept telling me to put it away and offered to put it in her bag for a minute I thought she might have been trying to steal it from me I didn't think much of it they had a parade going on for the festival giving out flowers and there were plenty of cops I did not feel threatened. I do know a couple people here so I have no reason to post a bogus story. I might post a pic but wasn't sure if it was appropriate sine I saw someone get flamed for posting a pic of a girl off Colombia Cupid anyway she is still with me now and will spend the day again with me and is actually going with me to my dentist appointment in Palamas afterwards not sure what to do if your in town I'll introduce you to her and even buy you a beer and you can witness this fine gem for yourself.

World Travel 69
08-01-14, 15:45
[i]loma de los balsos.[ / i] south east of the rio medellin.

1. * loutron, calle 16 a sur # 9 e-500, it is across from the paint ball game place on tessorro above the los balsos roundabout. just down a little bit from the speed bump. they built a new wooden gate. it's a one lane driveway to the top. you cannot see the house from the street. it is about a half mile higher up the road from the old location. 10-16 chicas. prices: cover 10 k, beer 10 k, chicas 130 k 20 min. 160 k 30 min. 210 k hour. 250 k 90 min. tel: 444 42 04, cell 313-230-2756. hours: monday to thursday noon to 11 pm, friday to saturday noon to 9 pm.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=utf8&authuser=0&oe=utf8&msa=0&msid=206810231178282017429.000494779e6b2fb07f4d4&dg=feature


sorry, i am a newbie, will be in medellin in 48 hour.

i can not go back to long thread since 2006 because of time issue.

last time somewhere in 2006, it did mention loutron was moving to a new location.

my question is it is still open or close? and what is the current location?

thank you

DrWasabee
08-01-14, 16:13
Here is a picture not exposing her face she is even wearing the outfit I got her well here's a good fairy tale for you: Brazil wins the next World Cup LOL.

World Travel 69
08-01-14, 16:58
This link at the bottom is interesting, but it is a little off.

El Poblado.

Lejano Orinte, Carrera 31 N #16-190. 25+ Chicas. Prices: __k 30 min. , __k hour.

Tel: 312 867 31 95,312 303 96 51,312 254 32 32. Hours: 9 am to 6 pm.

http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/erotic-massage-parlor

Bbrocs
08-01-14, 21:26
I just read this. Do I know you? Have you been to Peru? Have you experienced that the girls I know "charge through the roof? Have you personally met anyone who said I make money or get freebees? Do you have a problem with a forum member helping out other guys and not asking for anything in return? ISG members help me out when I travel to other countries. That's good enough for me.Note. I traveled to Peru David 33 helped me out not once but 3 times and all my friends to. He asked for nothing in return. The girl charged no more or no less then girls we found on perutops. Trashing a guy for helping, makes that person not want to help.

I was not put up to this or even asked I am just telling you my story from traveling to Lima years 2006-2008.

Thanks David from all of us. If you ever come to Medellin I will more then do the same for you...

Rjsss212
08-01-14, 23:24
Note. I traveled to Peru David 33 helped me out not once but 3 times and all my friends to. He asked for nothing in return. The girl charged no more or no less then girls we found on perutops. Trashing a guy for helping, makes that person not want to help.

I was not put up to this or even asked I am just telling you my story from traveling to Lima years 2006-2008.

Thanks David from all of us. If you ever come to Medellin I will more then do the same for you...Its the expression "methinks thou dost protest too much".

BB, he spends so much time telling everyone "he makes nothing" that he is either a paranoid pimp or the most timid sex board member in history.

BrasilSoccer0
08-02-14, 02:44
Here is a picture not exposing her face she is even wearing the outfit I got her well here's a good ferry tale for you Brazil wins the next World Cup LOL.My friend, this girl seems to have a flat butt. Nothing to brag about in Medellin. Doesn't match the discription you gave.

You are in a place abundant with nice butts everywhere. Here is a sample of what a paisa body looks like:

BrasilSoccer0
08-02-14, 02:50
Onion booty.

C Jack Sparrow
08-02-14, 03:03
Yeraldin needs some money for her studies so I offered her yesterday to have sex with my new friend Geraldine. I think we can agree on 200 k COP for a full service, both parties happy, no clock no nothing distracting.

Then just minutes ago Geraldine, who yet no has druged me with Scopolamine, asked if I had a sexual fantasy. I told her about Yeraldin. She wanted to do it with her after seeing her fotos.

So now I can have 2 Geraldine (Geraldine & Yeraldin) at home now and then.

It will not be for free, but including everything, and the good circumstances, the very best deal I can get.

This is the result of WORK. I have strived for getting this for a long time.

This girls are not just "aerobicsgirls", they are my friends and I can relax in their company. I can have a "friend with benefits" relationship with both.

Of course I would want a family, but this is better to have as a romantic dream than as a reality.

Many paisa, brazilian argentine friends are even more open with their choises to not have, or postpone (for life, hiih), to family, than americans or europeans are.

Here kids can be the cost and responsibility that in the end creates the difference between a prosperous life and relative poverty.

Well. Yes, it is a result of work, not my beauty!

If you really want a Perfect 10, or as close as you can get, then there will be a lot of failures before you get there. You need to learn Spanish, where and how to approach these girls. I have made so many mistakes along the way.

Que Rico
08-02-14, 03:25
Yeraldin needs some money for her studies so I offered her yesterday to have sex with my new friend Geraldine. I think we can agree on 200 k COP for a full service, both parties happy, no clock no nothing distracting.

Then just minutes ago Geraldine, who yet no has druged me with Scopolamine, asked if I had a sexual fantasy. I told her about Yeraldin. She wanted to do it with her after seeing her fotos.

So now I can have 2 Geraldine (Geraldine & Yeraldin) at home now and then.

It will not be for free, but including everything, and the good circumstances, the very best deal I can get.

This is the result of WORK. I have strived for getting this for a long time...Geraldine is the, first Paisa I ever, meet who is bitchy and has a foul mouth, always fuck, shit fucking this and that. She has fucked hundreds or disgusting Johns and has been used and abused I have no idea why anyone would consider her above average. She is ruined by gringos, you must be new to Medellin or desperate my friend. You should really look around more there are many girl next door types who will rock your world. Just saying.

Ricker
08-02-14, 03:34
Here is a picture not exposing her face she is even wearing the outfit I got her well here's a good ferry tale for you Brazil wins the next World Cup LOL.Thanks for the pic amigo!

Good for you!

Ignore the critics, it's not a contest, it's about the chemestry and enjoyment!

Have fun!

DrWasabee
08-02-14, 04:10
My friend, this girl seems to have a flat butt. Nothing to brag about in Medellin. Doesn't match the discription you gave.

You are in a place abundant with nice butts everywhere. Here is a sample of what a paisa body looks like:Doesn't match my description "a cute little spinner" how is that? Now go back to troll land while I put you on ignore.

Av8r
08-02-14, 09:26
I just had supersex with Geraldine in my Laureles apartment.

She is an awesome, delicious, pretty girl, Charlize Theron 8/9 of 10, as in The Devils Advocate 1997, with permanent curly hair, supercute and, as girls can be here, mature for her 18 years.

I will walk the line, I will go for it, Hagale!.

Geraldine has the best best ratio thin waist / hardass / muscular aerobics legs I have ever been familiar with. No surgery. And no need for it.

Well this happend in Medellin, but she is invited from Villavicencio.

She has been to Cartagena recently, without her family or amigas, hence she is used to meet middleage men like me, despite of her age she feels very natural to socialize with.

She is in it for adventure I think, while I'm in love.

I mean she is ever better than Yeraldin, my x-prepago friend here in Medellin, which I consider to be the most sexy of all girls in Latinamerica since 2003, I mean of all 3-400 and +20 girlfriends and amigas con derechos.

Geraldine 8. 8 points, Yeraldin 8. 77 points. That is Ass Good Ass It Gets. For me it is.

Internet has brought many disasters in my way, but also a lot of good things. I take the risks, since if I do, I hope to meet that Perfect 10, in my world she already is.

Geraldine might be The last One. But problably she is here as part of her "training".

Supersex, for free! .

Fantastico! Genial!Another Yeraldine? This is one of our recent recruits at Liquid, but she just took a week off to go to Cartagena, so maybe it's the same one. She assured me it was ok to post her pics. She's an absolute sweetheart, and has the nicest pair of natural breast I think I've ever seen. I have better shots on the private Liquid site, and a spectacular strip tease video, but the video file size was too big to uploa here.

C Jack Sparrow
08-02-14, 14:23
My Geraldine & Yeraldin.

C Jack Sparrow
08-02-14, 14:40
Photos of Geraldine & Yeraldin.

Turgid
08-02-14, 15:04
Here is a picture not exposing her face she is even wearing the outfit I got her well here's a good ferry tale for you Brazil wins the next World Cup LOL.Hey man, I'm jealous of you.

DrWasabee
08-02-14, 17:13
Just said goodbye to Maria she spent a couple nights couldn't really get a feel for what her deal was I guess I would consider her semi pro most definitely considered her GFE. This is not the norm for me I usually run and gun from one place to another but considering she was just my type and I met her at an opportune time since I was solo on this trip and started getting a little bored between sessions although my Spanish is pretty lame and she barely spoke any English I enjoyed having her around. I am not new to this game and know at 52 I'm not likely to land a 21 yo hottie like her on just my good looks and charm even though no money was discussed I wasn't sure what to leave her with as a parting gift. While with me I got her 2 outfits her hair done and some beauty supply's about 150 k didn't want to be to generous or to cheap I figured 200 k was a fair number and handed her that and wanted to see her reaction couldn't get a good feel even though she smiled and gave me a big kiss I wanted to make sure she was happy because she was very sweet to me, so I threw in another 50 k for transportation home that got me even bigger hugs so all in all spent 400 k and was with her for about 48 hours. As for her performance nothing special but as a whole package was worth it. Now I'm off to Santa Marta for a little are&are at the beach and looking forward to coming back to Medellin.

Ricker
08-02-14, 19:22
Geraldine is the, first Paisa I ever, meet who is bitchy and has a foul mouth, always fuck, shit fucking this and that. She has fucked hundreds or disgusting Johns and has been used and abused I have no idea why anyone would consider her above average. She is ruined by gringos, you must be new to Medellin or desperate my friend. You should really look around more there are many girl next door types who will rock your world. Just saying.Yeah yeah we know Rico.

Looks like, however, that he's NOT with the Geraldine you're referring too.

Got to be a gazillion Geraldines in Medellin amigo.

Que Rico
08-02-14, 19:54
Yeah yeah we know Rico.

Looks like, however, that he's NOT with the Geraldine you're referring too.

Got to be a gazillion Geraldines in Medellin amigo.I realized that after the post, I stand corrected.

Aussie Greg
08-02-14, 22:01
Did you putos know that Vivacolombia has just started flying Medellin to Panama City, also Bogota to Panama City.

Medellin to Panama City $97.00 USD.

A. G.

C Jack Sparrow
08-03-14, 10:13
It has come to an end.

Geraldine is in Parque Lleras with "amigas".

Yeraldin has been spoiled by some gringo and came back strong on me with 350 mil COP demand for service to Geraldine.

Ending up solo! On a Satuday Night Live! Solo in Medellin! I had it, but I lost them both in a heartbeat!

I'm back where I stared 6 days ago. A rythm that I have followed since I came here in May.

The babe on the photos was the disappointment of the week before, Rosario, from Colombiancupid. After blaha chatting for 2 weeks she withdrew and told me Good Luck. She accepted my money for being a representative "girlfriend". Both she and Lina from Latineuro was Moneyhungry. Offering erotics and romance for $$$ was not the issue. They did not like me being Romantic. They want a tuff self-secure man. I'm not, not on the the Internet dating sites. I have been told 2 lessons, losing 2 Babes, not because of my bad looks or lacking money or anything more than not being that self-secure MAN. One has to ACT.

I touched the dream of "The 2 Geraldine" and ended up single. A disaster for me then, when I was a normal Anglo-Saxon, now, after a very intense but equally rapidly vanishing feeling of being deceived: A The RELIEF of becoming a Medellin Man once again!

Dream, dream, have it briefly, but end it before it comes anything stable with REAL FINANCIAL demands, not just the (irritating) presents, etc.

But nothing is better to illutionate yourself with new dreams of erotics and romance while living in Medellin.

Geraldine with her virgin looks and aerobics body gave me supersex. And that was it.

A Special category of girl might be Daniela. She has send a few personal photos via Whatssapp so there is a chance that she is authentic. She is an escort in Mexico, while living a life here in Medellin as "ama de casa" with her son. As an escort she is curious to come with me to Europe to work as an Escort in the capitals of Europe, using me as a base. We have a discussion but has yet come to a anything concrete result since she is escorting in Mexico, Brasil and now Ecuador. An Latin escort in Copenhagen, very similar to her, charging 300, caught her attention! That's like 750 mil COP / hs. Karol, who is equally hot at Paisasdivinas takes 130 mil COP. It is almost 6 times more!

As a Single with $$$ I might just go to the Club where the 3rd Geraldine is / thanks for the photos / and enjoy life and not get involved anymore with this "Serenes".

It has been an expensive but even more a very enjoyable ride. More beautiful girls than I ever had in my life, but it has to end.

Ricker
08-03-14, 11:53
A Special category of girl might be Daniela. She has send a few personal photos via Whatssapp so there is a chance that she is authentic. She is an escort in Mexico, while living a life here in Medellin as "ama de casa" with her son. As an escort she is curious to come with me to Europe to work as an Escort in the capitals of Europe, using me as a base. We have a discussion but has yet come to a anything concrete result since she is escorting in Mexico, Brasil and now Ecuador. An Latin escort in Copenhagen, very similar to her, charging 300, caught her attention! That's like 750 mil COP / hs. Karol, who is equally hot at Paisasdivinas takes 130 mil COP. It is almost 6 times more!

As a Single with $$$ I might just go to the Club where the 3rd Geraldine is / thanks for the photos / and enjoy life and not get involved anymore with this "Serenes".

It has been an expensive but even more a very enjoyable ride. More beautiful girls than I ever had in my life, but it has to end.Though I have to admit that I do enjoy reading of your impossible pursuit of true love with these prepagos, I believe that you are either making this up, a glutton for punishment or a fool.

You sound like a teenage girl waiting for a prom date LOL.

Your latest love adventure, the traveling prepago to Mexico, Ecuador, etc.

You say that she may be authentic.

Authentic what?

Do yourself a favor and enjoy her company, reward her affection, GFE, etc appropriately, but stop the foolishness.

Fall in love, take her to Europe?

Total disaster. For you.

Really? You have to know this or you have to be dreaming all this up.

Good luck man.

Relax, take a chill pill, enjoy life, quit looking so hard for love, especially with professionals and online.

Just maybe then something real may come about.

PS: Thanks for posting the photos. Nice.

Peace.

BeersTerry
08-03-14, 18:09
Jaja. Maybe his next handle should be Jean Valjean, you know, "to dream the impossible dream, to fight the unbeatable foe, to tame the untameable hoe".

C Jack Sparrow
08-04-14, 02:22
Back to life. Back to reality.

Today I left that childish-roamntic shit!

New Life: Mafe:

Looks, little asian, though 100% paisa.

Very sweet and cute, sexy. Nice ass and legs, normal boring natural tits, thin waist.

Service BBBJ 40 k extra and 45 minutes. , total 90 k COP.

It was great, supberb BBBJ, it was my second time with Mafe. Felt like being in Bankock or Filipinas. Good as alternative to the big booty paisas.

Luna Lunera.

I came at 3 pm and only me and 3 girls, 2 ugly and one hot.

She was Fernanda, tall 173 cm, close to 180 cm with tacones.

No BBBJ or kisses, , but very modellike both face and body.

Though she has one kid, she felt very tight. Her face and body was very nice to watch in any position, very pornographic.

But expensive, 190 k for one hour inkl. A bottle of Soda.

Repeat at Luna Lunera, yes, but only on Payday!

Dickhead
08-04-14, 03:48
Jaja. Maybe his next handle should be Jean Valjean, you know, "to dream the impossible dream, to fight the unbeatable foe, to tame the untameable hoe".I believe you are confusing Victor Hugo's protagonist in Les miserables with Cervantes' protagonist Don Quijote, as the lyrics you quote are from the 1972 musical Man of La Mancha, not from Hugo's Valjean.

DrWasabee
08-04-14, 03:52
Flying back into Medellin on Tuesday night scheduled arrival 7:10 pm I'm leaving back home very early Wednesday morning so I booked a room by the airport. I was hoping to get some more action that night I was thinking of going to Energy I know in the list it says closes at 9:30 is that last appointment or when you have to be out by? Any suggestions or anything near the airport or some Cassa opened later would like some thing with some better than average talent.

Thanks

Artisttyp
08-04-14, 04:59
Back to life. Back to reality.

Service BBBJ 40 k extra That is insane.

C Jack Sparrow
08-04-14, 08:20
That is insane.Yes it is 10 k-20 over what it should be.

But the sex is worthless for me with CBJ.

Total turn-off.

The worst is not paying more, the worst if she doesn't want to give BBBJ. Then I usually continue the day until I find what I really want. Live porno POV is a must.

Please then, share with us your skills to negotionate down a BBBJ to 30 k or 20 k COP.

Artisttyp
08-04-14, 08:34
Please then, share with us your skills to negotionate down a BBBJ to 30 k or 20 k COP.I don't have any specific skills besides refusing to pay it.

When I first started going to MDE girls were happy with a 5/10 k tip for BBBJ.