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KeeperNight4
09-07-15, 03:30
Didn't report much on Medellin I had great time there and am looking at properties, will be visiting Tijuana few times over next month then back to Medellin or Thailand? Can't make up my mind.
Parque Lleras. Freelancers.Can you share a little bit about your experiences in Parque Lleras relative to when and how much the girls are asking for.
Let me add one more point.
If you don't know where to go, then it is dangerous at night at centro.Just have your bodyguard accompany you like always and you won't be so "susto" scared to walk around.
Gannaton48
09-07-15, 08:55
Parque Lleras. Freelancers.Are these girls also there during the day and from when (early or late afternoon) ?
Very good post man. Perhaps you're right, I'm a fool and probably just looking for love in the wrong places. Can't help but see them as humans with feelings.
Maybe I'll go try one of those girls who have absolutely no interest in me. Like when they shake my hand they look like they're so miserable. Then I won't feel bad about anything.99% of the guys on here are exactly like you and will fall for a puta at one point or another. Its an inevitability. Many guys claim they have not or will never. To me, Mongers fall into one of three categories:
1 Will fall for a puta.
2. Has fallen for a puta.
3. Has fallen for a puta, but is a lying piece of shit and won't admit it.
Iguana Six
09-07-15, 20:45
Are these girls also there during the day and from when (early or late afternoon) ?They mostly come out at night. Mostly.
Gannaton48
09-07-15, 22:40
They mostly come out at night. Mostly.Oh thanks! May I ask until what time the area is safe in the evening?
Hi All, Wanted to ask any Canadians specifically from the Toronto area what airlines they took to get to Medellin. I am in the process of getting a list together and just wanted to confirm that I did not miss any or if it is better to go via Buffalo. Thanks for any tips and info.
LocoGringo
09-07-15, 23:25
99% of the guys on here are exactly like you and will fall for a puta at one point or another. Its an inevitability. Many guys claim they have not or will never. To me, Mongers fall into one of three categories:
1 Will fall for a puta.
2. Has fallen for a puta.
3. Has fallen for a puta, but is a lying piece of shit and won't admit it.I agree. Used to do therapy but never came across what this is called. Trying to make a ho out of a regular girl or tryin to make a regular girl out of a puta. Wow, my life challenge.
ForceSteeler
09-07-15, 23:45
99% of the guys on here are exactly like you and will fall for a puta at one point or another. Its an inevitability. Many guys claim they have not or will never. To me, Mongers fall into one of three categories:
1 Will fall for a puta.
2. Has fallen for a puta.
3. Has fallen for a puta, but is a lying piece of shit and won't admit it.I for one have never fallen for a puta I can honestly say. I'm from NewYork City so the games or hustle these chicas run on these mongers are elementary. Anybody with any kind of street smarts can see through these chicas game, Also when it comes to women in general from the USA to Columbia, If a women likes you, you don't have to give her any money to be with her. (I'm not taking about paying for sex) I'm taking about being in a so called relationship. If you have to spend money for a chica to like you and be around you, just accept the fact that the relationship is based on money. (Which is cool) but again when your going through hard times or get sick, these Chicas are no wear to be found.
Hi All, Wanted to ask any Canadians specifically from the Toronto area what airlines they took to get to Medellin. I am in the process of getting a list together and just wanted to confirm that I did not miss any or if it is better to go via Buffalo. Thanks for any tips and info.You opened it up for me to tell an aircan story. For the past 5 years I fly Aircan Vancouver-Toronto-Bogota then Avianca BOG to MDE. Usually I pay about $150 cad rtn more than Tor-Bog folks pay to fly the Vancouver leg to Toronto, but for my next trip in 2 weeks I paid $150 cad less out of vanc rtn to bog than someone would pay for tor to bog, on an April advertised sale deal on AC's sale webpage, go figure eh?. They are paying me $150 for 9 hours flying time, YVR-Tor rnt Flying BOG to MDE go to their Colombia site , Avianca's, not the international one, I pay by canadian visa card in pesos at half the price or less than on the international site in dollars, go figure eh? My Sept. Trip was booking this past April. $850 cad Vanc-Tor-BOG return.
There's a ton of Chicas sitting all over the place in Botero Plaza on the benches, in front of the Museum, in front of the Church, by the public phones in front of the church. They are all street girls not working out of the bars and I have been quoted as low as 10,000 COP with the going rate at about 15,000 to 20,000 COP which I believe is the locals rate. Most are pretty raunchy but there are some exceptions. I went with one last night that quoted me 20,000 COP and she did such a good job I gave her 30,000 COP and she said I was very kind. To work the street girls you need to have your own room. I treat the girls well, sometimes I take them out for food, buy them drinks / snacks and get serviced well. I don't like the casa's as they are to controlled but I know some guys swear by them.
I have never seen any one snorting coke but there are lots of glue sniffers called sacaleros. The street alongside the Museum is what I call sacalero row as most of the girls are sniffing away and are as high as a kite. Need to be careful as the sacaleros can be agresivo if your an obvious gringo. I stay clear of them. There's also a collection from time to time of ladyboys that hang to the left of the Church in the afternoons and in the evening. I stay clear of them as well. I don't like the Avenida De La Grief bar scene as the girls are to hardcore.
The danger factor is totally a function of whether you look and / or dress like a foreigner or gringo.I confirm all the above, a while back someone wrote on this site, wear short sleeve shirts not t-shirts. That's a good joke, how to spot a newbe gringo in el centro is that he is wearing a short sleeved plaid shirt, the real clueless ones will have shortpants, white runners with long soxes half way up to their knees. A few months ago I saw a 65+ gringo in sandals, short pants carrying a Colombia lonely planet guidebook in a de grieff area strip club.
I confirm all the above, a while back someone wrote on this site, wear short sleeve shirts not t-shirts. That's a good joke, how to spot a newbe gringo in el centro is that he is wearing a short sleeved plaid shirt, the real clueless ones will have shortpants, white runners with long soxes half way up to their knees. A few months ago I saw a 65+ gringo in sandals, short pants carrying a Colombia lonely planet guidebook in a de grieff area strip club.I wear a polo shirt and jeans.
Even more pathetic are the young hipsters. They think they are impressing the putas by the way they dress. If you are a younger guy and you are mongering, it means you are a total loser. Any guy under 40 who mongers is taking the easy way out. Aside from he occasional bachelor party, you young guys should be picking up women, not paying for them.
BeersTerry
09-08-15, 01:23
Look at COPA or Avianca.
You will fly Toronto- San Salvador- Medellin or Toronto. Bogota - Medellin.
Going through the USA Is torture. There are very long waits if you go through Miami but Toronto. NYC - Medellin is less painful.
For Canadians, you will be pulled aside, shown a sign and charged $180 k cop tax for being a Canadian. A tit for tat tax that Canada was charging to try to stem the flow of Colombian refugee claimants.
They mostly come out at night. Mostly.Perhaps you could post a little bit more about your experiences in Parque Lleras. Just saying they come out at night tells us nothing as most hookers come out at night. I have been there on several days of the week and my experience is as follows; On Friday and Saturday nights if your an obvious gringo, or an older fart like myself you will be approached by women. Some pretty and dressed nice and some skanky ones. Keep in mind that this is the "Beverly Hills"of Medellin, with nice hotels, eating establishments, etc. I was quoted 200,000 COP by a girl who I wouldn't do and suspect the prices quoted might not be less than 200,000 COP for short time but I cannot verify this.
If you have some first hand experience relative to pricing please share with the community. I have an apartment two blocks from the park and won't waste my time there when I want something short time, I head to El Centro where I have a room as well.
ElJefe7010
09-08-15, 02:24
I wear a polo shirt and jeans.
Even more pathetic are the young hipsters. They think they are impressing the putas by the way they dress. If you are a younger guy and you are mongering, it means you are a total loser. Any guy under 40 who mongers is taking the easy way out. Aside from he occasional bachelor party, you young guys should be picking up women, not paying for them.Why judge other people who enjoy the same hobby? I don't go around questioning why older guys are mongering and aren't in a committed relationship at their age. Bottom line is we all P4P because we enjoy it.
I wear a polo shirt and jeans.
Even more pathetic are the young hipsters. They think they are impressing the putas by the way they dress. If you are a younger guy and you are mongering, it means you are a total loser. Any guy under 40 who mongers is taking the easy way out. Aside from he occasional bachelor party, you young guys should be picking up women, not paying for them.Thank you for telling us how we should live our life and at what age.
It's also easy to say that if you are older, you should be married and taking care of a family. I don't care what old people do as a hobby, single or married, and I don't care what a young person does.
Thanks
I've been whoring since I was 16. And I still live with my mom. I must be a total douche.
I wear a polo shirt and jeans.
Even more pathetic are the young hipsters. They think they are impressing the putas by the way they dress. If you are a younger guy and you are mongering, it means you are a total loser. Any guy under 40 who mongers is taking the easy way out. Aside from he occasional bachelor party, you young guys should be picking up women, not paying for them.
Fellow mongers, I found this very useful website with tons of whatsapp numbers and pics of prepagos. Many independent girls here but watch out for agencies advertising different girls with the same number. I got a some numbers of some cute independents, some with apartments and some without just after a few minutes of browsing through and most replied after a few minutes with their rates and location in Medellin. I am compiling a list of contacts from here for my next trip. Check it out at:
http://co.mundosexanuncio.com/b/escorts-y-putas/antioquia/medellin/whatsapp
Cerebro.Sure it's like Craigslist or Backpage classifieds BUT have you ever actually sessioned with one of these chicks? I bet you there's a lot of bait & switch.
Love uber and have been using it extensively to exclusively. Doesn't cover much of Medellin or Bogotá but for the general night out in Poblado or to / from the hotel it works.
That plus 20% back from the CC and hotel points makes it a much better deal than cash to a taxi.
Has anyone tried to send your girl home in an Uber car instead of giving her the taxi money in cash? With no tipping and an accurate accounting of the actual fare, it's a dream come true for a cheap charlie like myself.
Well, I'm sure there's a bunch of guys out there reading this board that have been played the sucker by a pro, and won't admit it, but I doubt the number is anywhere near 99%. Actually, a lot of the guys on this board are "lifestyle" mongers. They almost literally see all chicas, pro or non-pro, as receptacles to stick their penis in; nothing more than that. In truth, I can say with some first-hand knowledge that the worst experiences I've had are with so-called non-pros that in certain ways can act worse than a puta. Hookers, I can handle. It's the non-pros that really drive me crazy, LOL!
99% of the guys on here are exactly like you and will fall for a puta at one point or another. Its an inevitability. Many guys claim they have not or will never. To me, Mongers fall into one of three categories:
1 Will fall for a puta.
2. Has fallen for a puta.
3. Has fallen for a puta, but is a lying piece of shit and won't admit it.
Member #4398
09-08-15, 07:05
Sure it's like Craigslist or Backpage classifieds BUT have you ever actually sessioned with one of these chicks? I bet you there's a lot of bait & switch.Almotu,
I have not sessioned with any of those chicks at http://co.mundosexanuncio.com/b/esco...ellin/whatsapp, but I will try in my next trip. I think it is as you said like a backpage or craigslist with some bait and switch here and there, but I think there there are many real locals there too. I would compared the site more to mileroticos though with the exception that there more transgenders and gay guys advertising, just see all those bick dicks flying around LOL. I just started to gather some numbers of independent girls from the site and tried to keep the agencies and pimps out. I added one whatsapp number of a beautiful girl that was advertised there and the pic that came out on my phone was of a guy. I figured that was a pimp so I deleted that one right away. I also added one girl and after I contacted her, she replied saying that her rate was 70 k for the hour and 23 k at motel Motivos located in La Estrella. She said she does not do outcalls. How do I know is not a set up or if its okay? Do you think I would go to that motel. Not Me, so that one got deleted. I found a couple of cuties on that site that appear to be real from the whatsapp pictures and the way they replied, but you can never be sure if you going to find someone else or you going to get screw. In any case, when dealing with prostitutes there is always risk involved of getting screwed and all you can do is to try to assess the situation the best you can so you don't end up in a bad situation.
Cerebro
Thank you for telling us how we should live our life and at what age.
It's also easy to say that if you are older, you should be married and taking care of a family. I don't care what old people do as a hobby, single or married, and I don't care what a young person does. Thanks, loser.Married, family. Been there, done that.
I was replying to the young whipper snapper that was criticizing the older guys. If he can take shots at the older guys, I can take shots at the you guys.
ElJefe7010
09-09-15, 01:20
99% of the guys on here are exactly like you and will fall for a puta at one point or another. Its an inevitability. Many guys claim they have not or will never. To me, Mongers fall into one of three categories:
1 Will fall for a puta.
2. Has fallen for a puta.
3. Has fallen for a puta, but is a lying piece of shit and won't admit it.Am I an idiot being played even with all the warning signs in front of my face? The 2 things I have going is 1) she claims she will never ask me for money, and 2) we are the same age. I haven't fallen for her yet, but have expressed that I want things to get serious, and have honestly sworn off mongering for the time being.
ForceSteeler
09-09-15, 04:17
I wear a polo shirt and jeans.
Any guy under 40 who mongers is taking the easy way out. Aside from he occasional bachelor party, you young guys should be picking up women, not paying for them.Its fun mongering when your younger, plus the chicas can relate to you more, I'm 32 and I started mongering at the age of 25. A typical chica that is 18 Years old can more relate to somebody that is in there 20's and 30's. I would never want to monger when I'm older like 50's and 60's. I want to fuck all the pussy when I'm young and strong. But at the end of the day it does not matter what age you are. Just enjoy life, there is no part 2 to this life so enjoy it!. There all kinds of reasons people monger. I like to monger because I'm a working girl, I can fuck 20-40 Chicas in a few casas in a week for $15-$25 dollars for cheap, I cannot do that in America Most Guys in america fuck 20 girls in there lifetime, In this mongering life I fucked over 800 Women, If I went the wine and dine mode and all the bullshit you have to go through when your dating I don't see me fuck over 800 women.
I would never want to monger when I'm older like 50's and 60's. I want to fuck all the pussy when I'm young and strong..That's funny, keep up the good work mister!
Will you just retire from the pussy when you're old and weak in your 50's? LOL.
Though I retired from the mongering, my young girlfriend keeps me plenty busy, :)
Its fun mongering when your younger, plus the chicas can relate to you more, That's funny. They relate to your money, my friend.
And, quite the contrary, Latin women like older more established men. Read this: http://blogcritics.org/ten-reasons-why-we-latinas-like/.
I would never want to monger when I'm older like 50's and 60's. It does not matter how old you are, you will always want to bang. What do you think happens when you turn 50? You think you forget about sex? By that point, if you live in the USA, you only have flabby and wrinkly to choose from.
SlamCity7777
09-10-15, 00:37
Its fun mongering when your younger, plus the chicas can relate to you more, I'm 32 and I started mongering at the age of 25. A typical chica that is 18 Years old can more relate to somebody that is in there 20's and 30's. I would never want to monger when I'm older like 50's and 60's. I want to fuck all the pussy when I'm young and strong. But at the end of the day it does not matter what age you are. Just enjoy life, there is no part 2 to this life so enjoy it!. There all kinds of reasons people monger. I like to monger because I'm a working girl, I can fuck 20-40 Chicas in a few casas in a week for $15-$25 dollars for cheap, I cannot do that in America Most Guys in america fuck 20 girls in there lifetime, In this mongering life I fucked over 800 Women, If I went the wine and dine mode and all the bullshit you have to go through when your dating I don't see me fuck over 800 women.Nice post bro with good positive energy!
You did swish a 3 pointer! Drained a 30 foot put for Birdie!! Most guys on this board and mongers in general have maybe fucked 4 normal girls 8 at the most! You can tell by how clueless guys are about how to behave and play the game. How defensive they are. You can just tell.
Now they are bitter and angry they didn't start mongering before. No shit talking. Just an observation. TONS of haters in the Monger game in EVERY scene just not Mede. Real bad in Costa Rica from what I've been told.
I'm mid 30's and when I go out with a girl nobody looks twice, no snares, no nada; because it looks natural and is logical. Young handsome guys with young fine girl. When some abuelo does it, wearing flip flops, cargo shorts, grey harir popping out of this collar. No matter what they say, post, think, they see it and it bothers them because truth hurts. This girl shouldn't be with this old dude. The girls will even tell you so. Not if you're in the older camp but. It's just human nature.
Youth is wasted on the young. That's why you need to develop a good cool and fun personality because youth does fade. Cool does not! Handsome does stay in guys too but again if you are not in to double digit normal girls! Dude is prob lacking in cool and looks so he needs to monger vs likesto monger.
ForceSteeler
09-10-15, 02:34
Nice post bro with good positive energy!
You did swish a 3 pointer! Drained a 30 foot put for Birdie!! Most guys on this board and mongers in general have maybe fucked 4 normal girls 8 at the most! You can tell by how clueless guys are about how to behave and play the game. How defensive they are. You can just tell.
Now they are bitter and angry they didn't start mongering before. No shit talking. Just an observation. TONS of haters in the Monger game in EVERY scene just not Mede. Real bad in Costa Rica from what I've been told.
I'm mid 30's and when I go out with a girl nobody looks twice, no snares, no nada; because it looks natural and is logical. Young handsome guys with young fine girl. When some abuelo does it, wearing flip flops, cargo shorts, grey harir popping out of this collar. No matter what they say, post, think, they see it and it bothers them because truth hurts. This girl shouldn't be with this old dude. The girls will even tell you so. Not if you're in the older camp but. It's just human nature.
Youth is wasted on the young. That's why you need to develop a good cool and fun personality because youth does fade. Cool does not! Handsome does stay in guys too but again if you are not in to double digit normal girls! Dude is prob lacking in cool and looks so he needs to monger vs likesto monger.Yeah most girls will feel comfortable walking the street with a younger guy, they can blend in. Some of the older guys will bring up stats saying they want older men, but that's because most younger guys are not established and there money is not long like a older guy, but if they had to choose between a young multi millionaire like Justin Beiber, or some 60 year old CEO multi millionaire. Who do you think a typical 18 Year old girl would want to hang out? Or let alone be seen in public with? They can be with a older guy but they will get nothing but dirty looks, kinda like Vice President Dick Cheney. If you seen a old fart like Dick Cheney with some Hot Young Model? Do you honestly take that relationship seriously? Or would you look at that model as a dirty money hungry working girl? But again most girls in Medellin do not have that choice. Most Guys that are wealthy and are multi millionaires won't even set foot in a place like Medellin to look for girls, All the smoking hot exotic Spanish women are all in Miami just take your private jet and go to a club like Livs or the tree house and flash your black card. You will get pussy for days. So what I'm saying is the truth. Its easy to say they want older men, But I never seen these older men that go to Medellin find a rich millionaire Colombian Girl that is not poor and looking for a come up, looking to bang a old gringo. I pretty sure a Colombian girl that is rich and doing good for herself, will want someone her own age. Not a guy that is old enough to be her grandpa.
Tried this place out for the first time today.
It was easy enough to find, it's in a small arcade on Calle 54 (no. 97). There are lots of hustlers outside trying to get you in but the number is above the property entrance anyway.
It seems there are few places for action in the arcade as I was asked off in to various doorways. I went upstairs to where Sexy Fantasias 1 used to be. Now called Chicas Punto Com.
There is a receptionist who lines you up the girls. There was a huge range - 20+ chicas, but IMO mostly average. Because was COP 30 k something for 30 minutes and COP 55 k for 1 hour. Drinks were good price too. COP4 k for beers. Customer or lady drinks.
I chose a black / dark girl called Gail and that's when things went downhill for me. She was very lazy, I think taking her time to push my bill up (time is money in these places). I thought we were having a session of mutual gratification, but it only went one way. I gave up and told the receptionist (mamasan) that she was lousy. Hopefully she will take notice. I expect it was a one-off bad time.
Nice post bro with good positive energy!
You did swish a 3 pointer! Drained a 30 foot put for Birdie!! Most guys on this board and mongers in general have maybe fucked 4 normal girls 8 at the most! You can tell by how clueless guys are about how to behave and play the game. How defensive they are. You can just tell.
Now they are bitter and angry they didn't start mongering before. No shit talking. Just an observation. TONS of haters in the Monger game in every scene just not Mede. Real bad in Costa Rica from what I've been told.
I'm mid 30's and when I go out with a girl nobody looks twice, no snares, no nada; because it looks natural and is logical. Young handsome guys with young fine girl. When some abuelo does it, wearing flip flops, cargo shorts, grey harir popping out of this collar. No matter what they say, post, think, they see it and it bothers them because truth hurts. This girl shouldn't be with this old dude. The girls will even tell you so. Not if you're in the older camp but. It's just human nature.
Youth is wasted on the young. That's why you need to develop a good cool and fun personality because youth does fade. Cool does not! Handsome does stay in guys too but again if you are not in to double digit normal girls! Dude is prob lacking in cool and looks so he needs to monger vs likesto monger.Interesting comments. Of course, many girls prefer to go with guys that they fancy. Youth is one important characteristic. But so is looks, attitude / personality, and perhaps most importantly. Being able to communicate. When you chat to a girl, being able to talk and entertain in their 'language' is one of the keys.
Youth helps with much of this, but it is not the bottom line. Having a young attitude and open mind is also a winner.
Most guys on this board and mongers in general have maybe fucked 4 normal girls 8 at the most! You can tell by how clueless guys are about how to behave and play the game. How defensive they are. You might be surprised. In the days before HIV (the older guys prime time), sex was more freely available on one night stands. My days at uni and first few years just after were some of the craziest times I ever had, and in those days I wouldn't have dreamt of paying for sex. It just wasn't in the equation then. With a few student drinks, I could have a wide choice of girls for the night. Again, it comes down to ability to communicate well.
Legal Tender
09-10-15, 08:00
Yeah most girls will feel comfortable walking the street with a younger guy, they can blend in. Some of the older guys will bring up stats saying they want older men, but that's because most younger guys are not established and there money is not long like a older guy, but if they had to choose between a young multi millionaire like Justin Beiber, or some 60 year old CEO multi millionaire. Who do you think a typical 18 Year old girl would want to hang out? Or let alone be seen in public with? They can be with a older guy but they will get nothing but dirty looks, kinda like Vice President Dick Cheney. If you seen a old fart like Dick Cheney with some Hot Young Model? Do you honestly take that relationship seriously? Or would you look at that model as a dirty money hungry working girl? But again most girls in Medellin do not have that choice. Most Guys that are wealthy and are multi millionaires won't even set foot in a place like Medellin to look for girls, All the smoking hot exotic Spanish women are all in Miami just take your private jet and go to a club like Livs or the tree house and flash your black card. You will get pussy for days. So what I'm saying is the truth. Its easy to say they want older men, But I never seen these older men that go to Medellin find a rich millionaire Colombian Girl that is not poor and looking for a come up, looking to bang a old gringo. I pretty sure a Colombian girl that is rich and doing good for herself, will want someone her own age. Not a guy that is old enough to be her grandpa.Let's start out the with reality. My amigo, ForceSteeler, you know nothing about (1) Wealthy mature gentlemen that favor Medellin; and, (2) the culture that exists in Colombia. It is culturally acceptable for a young Colombian girl to be a companion of a mature man. Most successful Colombian men that I know are very Catholic with the intact family, and a beautiful young girl that he supports and mentors. So many of these girls grow up without a father figure, and these men are mentors, benefactors, confidants, and sexual partners. Amigo, these are the girls that you would never have the opportunity to meet. The creme de la creme.
Would these girls rather be spending their time with boys of their own age? Probably, but it's not an either or situation. These girls are more than happy to get all dressed up and go with their "papa" to a nice restaurant, or anywhere else. The perception is that she's found some security, and is making the best of her assets. The relationship is what it is. I've sent or are sending half a dozen girls in Medellin through their chosen university. Do folks take those relationships seriously? I don't know, but their families certainly do.
All of this discussion between the benefits of youth vs maturity and resources really misses the point. What all of us should consider is first not doing any harm to the girls of Medellin, and secondly to try to benefit them in their lives. We can all provide:
Only good energy.
Yeah most girls will feel comfortable walking the street with a younger guy, they can blend in. Some of the older guys will bring up stats saying they want older men, but that's because most younger guys are not established and there money is not long like a older guy, but if they had to choose between a young multi millionaire like Justin Beiber, or some 60 year old CEO multi millionaire. Who do you think a typical 18 Year old girl would want to hang out? Or let alone be seen in public with? They can be with a older guy but they will get nothing but dirty looks, kinda like Vice President Dick Cheney. If you seen a old fart like Dick Cheney with some Hot Young Model? Do you honestly take that relationship seriously? Or would you look at that model as a dirty money hungry working girl? But again most girls in Medellin do not have that choice. Most Guys that are wealthy and are multi millionaires won't even set foot in a place like Medellin to look for girls, All the smoking hot exotic Spanish women are all in Miami just take your private jet and go to a club like Livs or the tree house and flash your black card. You will get pussy for days. So what I'm saying is the truth. Its easy to say they want older men, But I never seen these older men that go to Medellin find a rich millionaire Colombian Girl that is not poor and looking for a come up, looking to bang a old gringo. I pretty sure a Colombian girl that is rich and doing good for herself, will want someone her own age. Not a guy that is old enough to be her grandpa.I will say there is one point that has not been discussed and is the great equalizer. Being in great shape. You beat out of shape young people all day, everyday because appearance is the great equalizer. I share this with you older gentlemen. About a year ago, I told myself I wanted to make a commitment and get back to my playing weight. I was 30 pounds over weight and it showed. I just decided this is my life and I want my youth back. Guess what, I took it back! I am now 6'2 218 lbs I bench over 300 and my body fat is down to 6%. It is up to you what you want for yourself, but getting in great physical shape really can improve your quality of life as you get older. I do not look 51 and the young boys ask me all the time what they should do to get in shape like me because women always notice and they see that. Trust me, when I say a strong in shape person will always beat the out of shape young man. The stares you will get will be of admiration and respect. It is your life you have to decide.
Mr Enternational
09-10-15, 08:39
I thought we were having a session of mutual gratification, but it only went one way.Why do so many mongers think or wish for this? They are hookers. Not your girlfriend and not your lover. They are there for YOU to get your rocks off and for them to get paid.
Mr Enternational
09-10-15, 08:47
About a year ago, I told myself I wanted to make a commitment and get back to my playing weight. I was 30 pounds over weight and it showed. I just decided this is my life and I want my youth back. Guess what, I took it back! I am now 6'2 218 lbs I bench over 300 and my body fat is down to 6%. It is up to you what you want for yourself, but getting in great physical shape really can improve your quality of life as you get older.Good job bro. I just can't get this 30 lbs off though as much as I work out and eat right. I saw my best friend from childhood the other day for the first time in a few years and he was like DAMN! But I keep the ladies laughing with shirts like the one I am wearing now.
Mr Enternational
09-10-15, 08:55
Most successful Colombian men that I know are very Catholic with the intact family, and a beautiful young girl that he supports and mentors. So many of these girls grow up without a father figure, and these men are mentors, benefactors, confidants, and sexual partners. Amigo, these are the girls that you would never have the opportunity to meet. The creme de la creme.What makes a chick that grows up without a dad and needs a rich old guy's mentorship and support the creme de la creme? Sounds more like the sugar baby of the sugar daddy to me.
The guy on the tour explained it to us very well. He said the chicks around there get all of that plastic surgery in hopes of finding a man to take care of them.
Good job bro. I just can't get this 30 lbs off though as much as I work out and eat right. I saw my best friend from childhood the other day for the first time in a few years and he was like DAMN! But I keep the ladies laughing with shirts like the one I am wearing now.E you can do it. Just make the commitment. I use this place for my supplements https://www.muscleandstrength.com/ and it is so much cheaper than GNC which is way over priced. Just do a 30 day challenge to yourself and say I will do something everyday even if just 50 pushups and watch what happens in 30 days. Your stamina will increase a lot.
ForceSteeler
09-10-15, 12:15
I will say there is one point that has not been discussed and is the great equalizer. Being in great shape. You beat out of shape young people all day, everyday because appearance is the great equalizer. I share this with you older gentlemen. About a year ago, I told myself I wanted to make a commitment and get back to my playing weight. I was 30 pounds over weight and it showed.Yeah but lets not let off topic here. This is a mongering board, and we all are paying for pussy at the end of the day, and when your dealing with a working girl, the only thing that matters is what's in your wallet.
Let's start out the with reality. My amigo, ForceSteeler, you know nothing about (1) Wealthy mature gentlemen that favor Medellin; and, (2) the culture that exists in Colombia. It is culturally acceptable for a young Colombian girl to be a companion of a mature man. Most successful Colombian men that I know are very Catholic with the intact family, and a beautiful young girl that he supports and mentors. So many of these girls grow up without a father figure, and these men are mentors, benefactors, confidants, and sexual partners. Amigo, these are the girls that you would never have the opportunity to meet. The creme de la creme.
Would these girls rather be spending their time with boys of their own age? Probably, but it's not an either or situation. These girls are more than happy to get all dressed up and go with their "papa" to a nice restaurant, or anywhere else. The perception is that she's found some security, and is making the best of her assets. The relationship is what it is. I've sent or are sending half a dozen girls in Medellin through their chosen university. Do folks take those relationships seriously? I don't know, but their families certainly do.
All of this discussion between the benefits of youth vs maturity and resources really misses the point. What all of us should consider is first not doing any harm to the girls of Medellin, and secondly to try to benefit them in their lives. We can all provide:
Only good energy.Good points but you said you've sent or are sending half a dozen girls through a university? Wow, if so, sounds like you have a 'harem"and lots of money!
You might be surprised. In the days before HIV (the older guys prime time), sex was more freely available on one night stands. My days at uni and first few years just after were some of the craziest times I ever had, and in those days I wouldn't have dreamt of paying for sex. It just wasn't in the equation then. With a few student drinks, I could have a wide choice of girls for the night. Again, it comes down to ability to communicate well.Exactamente. Actually the younger girls in the USA are sluttier now than ever before. So a 30 year old guy who travels to Colombia for sex must be seriously deficient if he cannot get laid for free. I understand that it would be fun for a young guy to go on vacation for some quick fun or for a bachelor party. But, these girls are not keepers and cannot be transplanted back in the USA very easily. So these young guys who think they can come down and game working girls because of their youth is actually pretty hilarious.
You might be surprised. In the days before HIV (the older guys prime time), sex was more freely available on one night stands. My days at uni and first few years just after were some of the craziest times I ever had, and in those days I wouldn't have dreamt of paying for sex. It just wasn't in the equation then. With a few student drinks, I could have a wide choice of girls for the night. Again, it comes down to ability to communicate well.Times have changed and the young mongers on this board know nothing of how things were in the past or a clue as to what their lives will be like in their 50's and beyond.
Member #4402
09-10-15, 15:31
A few bad apples on this board seem interested in offending others. It's easy for the rest of us to get sucked in.
Let's just stop the flaming. Let's be inclusive. Regardless of who started it.
Colombia Jake
09-10-15, 16:20
Exactamente. Actually the younger girls in the USA are sluttier now than ever before. So a 30 year old guy who travels to Colombia for sex must be seriously deficient if he cannot get laid for free. I understand that it would be fun for a young guy to go on vacation for some quick fun or for a bachelor party. But, these girls are not keepers and cannot be transplanted back in the USA very easily. So these young guys who think they can come down and game working girls because of their youth is actually pretty hilarious.The fun didn't stop for me in the USA until I was 46 which I was told by my older buddies was the end of the line 10 years before it happened! I'm getting all ages here at my place these days much more so than even a couple years back. I do think social media has a way of slowing down a player in the USA much more now than when we could be quite stealth without having to worry about your reputation around the social circles now so quickly! We have a couple of fun guys from the west coast of Florida here doing a couple of bicycle off road tours through a tour group and tell me its a lot of fun.
Jake
The Tall Man
09-10-15, 16:21
Let's start out the with reality. My amigo, ForceSteeler, you know nothing about (1) Wealthy mature gentlemen that favor Medellin; and, (2) the culture that exists in Colombia. It is culturally acceptable for a young Colombian girl to be a companion of a mature man. Most successful Colombian men that I know are very Catholic with the intact family, and a beautiful young girl that he supports and mentors. So many of these girls grow up without a father figure, and these men are mentors, benefactors, confidants, and sexual partners. Amigo, these are the girls that you would never have the opportunity to meet. The creme de la creme.
Would these girls rather be spending their time with boys of their own age? Probably, but it's not an either or situation. These girls are more than happy to get all dressed up and go with their "papa" to a nice restaurant, or anywhere else. The perception is that she's found some security, and is making the best of her assets. The relationship is what it is. I've sent or are sending half a dozen girls in Medellin through their chosen university. Do folks take those relationships seriously? I don't know, but their families certainly do.
All of this discussion between the benefits of youth vs maturity and resources really misses the point. What all of us should consider is first not doing any harm to the girls of Medellin, and secondly to try to benefit them in their lives. We can all provide:
Only good energy.Spot on with respects to older men and younger Colombian girls and the absolute acceptance of the Colombian culture.
The Tall Man.
Exactamente. Actually the younger girls in the USA are sluttier now than ever before. So a 30 year old guy who travels to Colombia for sex must be seriously deficient if he cannot get laid for free. I understand that it would be fun for a young guy to go on vacation for some quick fun or for a bachelor party. But, these girls are not keepers and cannot be transplanted back in the USA very easily. So these young guys who think they can come down and game working girls because of their youth is actually pretty hilarious.Not just the younger girls. I'm 50 and I find the 35-45 year-old women in the US love to fuck. There are some attractive ones and what's more, if they make a good leaving, they're happy to contribute financially.
Of course, even an in-shape 35 year old can't match a 20 year old Colombiana for HOTNESS, so I travel to experience that delight. But I completely separate dating in the USA from mongering in S. America. Even if one if these hot 20 year-olds in Colombia truly wanted to be with me, I know it wouldn't work bringing her back to the U.S.
Yeah but lets not let off topic here. This is a mongering board, and we all are paying for pussy at the end of the day, and when your dealing with a working girl, the only thing that matters is what's in your wallet.Not exactly true amigo.
You've been with 800+ girls and you still believe this.
That's more of a rookie belief.
Have you talked to any of them? LOL.
They may be working, but they're still just girls.
Of course they need and want the money, duh.
There's much more to your particular time with a girl, however, than 'your wallet', regardless of age.
ForceSteeler
09-10-15, 19:46
Not exactly true amigo.
You've been with 800+ girls and you still believe this.
That's more of a rookie belief.
Have you talked to any of them? LOL.
They may be working, but they're still just girls.
Of course they need and want the money, duh.
There's much more to your particular time with a girl, however, than 'your wallet', regardless of age..Yes I have been with over 800+ working girls, but I'm not a rookie, Any Real veteran will tell you that the only thing these working girls want is your wallet, or a sugar daddy that can send them western union every month. Do some want a relationship? Yes they do but if I have to send somebody money every month, That's not a real relationship. Besides I can never date or take any girl seriously if all I have to do is give her some money and she will give me the pussy. That means anybody with money can have your girl. If I wanted to date a Colombian girl, I would prefer a Non-Pro (Non-Working Girl) That will not have sex for money, For me to get her I have to spit game and do the old fashion way. But of course this is a mongering board so I'm getting a bit off topic. We all travel to these countries to sport fuck and get our dick wet, or just want something on the side while married not to break up a happy home. I would not travel to Columbia for a relationship when there are plenty of Spanish girls in the USA. At least in the USA you know most of them don't have a hidden agenda, (Like trying to come up on a green card).
Exactamente. Actually the younger girls in the USA are sluttier now than ever before. So a 30 year old guy who travels to Colombia for sex must be seriously deficient if he cannot get laid for free. I understand that it would be fun for a young guy to go on vacation for some quick fun or for a bachelor party. But, these girls are not keepers and cannot be transplanted back in the USA very easily. So these young guys who think they can come down and game working girls because of their youth is actually pretty hilarious.There are plenty of young guys who come down to Colombia and struggle because all they saw prior to booking their trips was previews in pics of gorgeous young Colombian women and the thought of having sex with them made them excited, and they didn't bother to learn spanish or much about the culture period. Being one of the "younger" guys, when I see guys like that I find it a little funny. With that said, when a good looking younger guy comes down, speaks spanish, knows the game and instantly grabs the attention of the gorgeous young Colombianas and pulls them away from the old guys that speak equally good spanish and know a lot about Colombian culture. That's when people like you speak of "deficiencies" and criticizing the young guys. And I find that hilarious. ; )
Yes I have been with over 800+ working girls, but I'm not a rookie, Any Real veteran will tell you that the only thing these working girls want is your wallet, or a sugar daddy that can send them western union every month. Do some want a relationship? Yes they do but if I have to send somebody money every month, That's not a real relationship. Besides I can never date or take any girl seriously if all I have to do is give her some money and she will give me the pussy. That means anybody with money can have your girl. If I wanted to date a Colombian girl, I would prefer a Non-Pro (Non-Working Girl) That will not have sex for money, For me to get her I have to spit game and do the old fashion way.."if I have to send somebody money every month, That's not a real relationship" OMG. What is a marriage (or indeed any permanenet relationship) if it is not partly about security? It's not "real" - what are you on? That is modern life!
"That means anybody with money can have your girl. " - yes, it's called a wedding! Where have you been liiving these past few hundred years?
Yes I have been with over 800+ working girls, but I'm not a rookie, Any Real veteran will tell you that the only thing these working girls want is your wallet, or a sugar daddy that can send them western union every month. Do some want a relationship? Yes they do but if I have to send somebody money every month, That's not a real relationship. Besides I can never date or take any girl seriously if all I have to do is give her some money and she will give me the pussy. That means anybody with money can have your girl. If I wanted to date a Colombian girl, I would prefer a Non-Pro (Non-Working Girl) That will not have sex for money, For me to get her I have to spit game and do the old fashion way. But of course this is a mongering board so I'm getting a bit off topic. We all travel to these countries to sport fuck and get our dick wet, or just want something on the side while married not to break up a happy home. I would not travel to Columbia for a relationship when there are plenty of Spanish girls in the USA. At least in the USA you know most of them don't have a hidden agenda, (Like trying to come up on a green card).Well, thanks for that post, however, I wasn't referring to relationships at all.
You said that the only thing working girls care about is the wallet, and I disagreed.
Don't want to write a book here, but there's so much more to it than just the wallet.
The wallet will get the job done, sure.
It's the other intangibles that make it nicer though.
The real vets know this.
If I have to explain more, it's too late, LOL.
Manizales911
09-11-15, 05:51
Well, thanks for that post, however, I wasn't referring to relationships at all.
You said that the only thing working girls care about is the wallet, and I disagreed.
Don't want to write a book here, but there's so much more to it than just the wallet.
The wallet will get the job done, sure.
It's the other intangibles that make it nicer though.
The real vets know this.
If I have to explain more, it's too late, LOL.You are 100% right on seńor Ricker.
I was one of the first guys to go into the mansion over 10 years ago. It was a penthouse and Greg not only had P4P but he was also running a dating agency. He hooked me up with a fine group of ladies that never asked for a dime from me other than food, drinks and taxis. At the end of the week I was done and ready to go home. The girl I spent the most time with considered us novios and I was too freaked lazy to walk down to to the bank and pull out some living cash for her. I got into the drivers car heading to the airport and left her with one $20 bill!
Since then I have been all over Latin america and have had countless girlfriends and I have only paid for girls a few times when I took friends into Medellin that didn't have any good connections.
I play golf, tennis, surf, dance and read while away with the ladies and have a huge business with 160 people making me money everyday back at home. I'm not young nor old at 40 but I have been banging high quality girls since I was 14 and most of those years I had a steady girl at home that made us 4 babies. I'm honest with my wife, she knows I get bored and she doesn't care what I do as long as I don't bring anything home or fall in love.
I usually wife up, explore the city I'm in and at the end I give the girl 600 to 700 plus all her food and anything else we did. That's my style. It keeps me out of casas away from the P4P girls and they are sadly expecting more than a week of romance.
So I am one of those millionaires that goes to Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena, Costa Rica, panama, Cuba, dr, Argentina. I'm having a blast and as long as I stay in shape I'm good for a while. Just got back from Medellin and stayed at affinity next to Oviedo. Had 1 fine 24 year old that I have seen once before. I met her on Facebook and we are in love.
Next up is a dermatologist out of Bogota with a visa. I plan to see her in Bogota and then fly her into miami for a long weekend in the near future. I have been on this site as a senior member that was banned many times because I call it like it is.
Traveling, exploring, looking out the plane window and pondering my next adventure makes my soul energized and keeps the burnout of owning a big company at bay. I ll bet I will be in Bogota in less than 2 weeks and banging a doctor while she exams my skin.
Last few years I have been requiring the girls to get checked for a full panel of STDs so when I arrive I get her papers and I can bang her with no fear of HIV. They actually sell at drugstores HIV testing kits you could take and tell her its to check her blood sugar levels.
Surprisingly they never ask me to do the same.
With that said, when a good looking younger guy comes down, speaks spanish, knows the game and instantly grabs the attention of the gorgeous young Colombianas and pulls them away from the old guys that speak equally good spanish and know a lot about Colombian culture. That's when people like you speak of "deficiencies" and criticizing the young guys. And I find that hilarious. ; )I assume by "pulls them away" means you pay more money. That does not bother me in the least. Once I bang a puta, I usually move on to the next one.
Now, if you come down and meet a hottie, non pro, then you have my respect.
Ricardo Torres
09-11-15, 14:57
I was one of the first guys to go into the mansion over 10 years ago. It was a penthouse and Greg not only had P4P but he was also running a dating agency. He hooked me up with a fine group of ladies that never asked for a dime from me other than food, drinks and taxis. At the end of the week I was done and ready to go home. The girl I spent the most time with considered us novios and I was too freaked lazy to walk down to to the bank and pull out some living cash for her. I got into the drivers car heading to the airport and left her with one $20 bill!
Since then I have been all over Latin america and have had countless girlfriends and I have only paid for girls a few times when I took friends into Medellin that didn't have any good connections.
I play golf, tennis, surf, dance and read while away with the ladies and have a huge business with 160 people making me money everyday back at home. I'm not young nor old at 40 but I have been banging high quality girls since I was 14 and most of those years I had a steady girl at home that made us 4 babies. I'm honest with my wife, she knows I get bored and she doesn't care what I do as long as I don't bring anything home or fall in love.
I usually wife up, explore the city I'm in and at the end I give the girl 600 to 700 plus all her food and anything else we did. That's my style. It keeps me out of casas away from the P4P girls and they are sadly expecting more than a week of romance..You are so full of chit! Just telling it like it is!
MedellinGringo
09-11-15, 15:56
I assume by "pulls them away" means you pay more money. That does not bother me in the least. Once I bang a puta, I usually move on to the next one.
Now, if you come down and meet a hottie, non pro, then you have my respect.I have been traveling and living off and on in Colombia for over 20 years now. Never even got into the P4P scene until 3 years ago. Just no need for it.
I still like to go out with guy friends that are 20 years younger than myself who are better looking. And still there are chicks that blow right by my better looking younger friends and land on me.
When that happens I tell my friends "Looks like I found a girl that is tired of being humped and dumped. Jajaja.
I really prefer the chicks that just don't have a problem fucking 50+ year old gringos rather than the ones that are actively seeking older guys. Because those are the ones that are more interested in trying to get you into some kind of a relationship as opposed to just getting fucked.
All and all it is better to be young and handsome compared to old and wealthy. Even chicks that really like you still try to work you when you got $$ To them. They just don't understand why you wouldn't help them out financially if you really liked them. When you are young and broke they don't expect anything from you but a stiff dick a couple times a day. Aaaa those were the days.
I was one of the first guys to go into the mansion over 10 years ago. It was a penthouse and Greg not only had P4P but he was also running a dating agency. He hooked me up with a fine group of ladies that never asked for a dime from me other than food, drinks and taxis. At the end of the week I was done and ready to go home. The girl I spent the most time with considered us novios and I was too freaked lazy to walk down to to the bank and pull out some living cash for her. I got into the drivers car heading to the airport and left her with one $20 bill!
Since then I have been all over Latin america and have had countless girlfriends and I have only paid for girls a few times when I took friends into Medellin that didn't have any good connections.
I play golf, tennis, surf, dance adnd read while away with the ladies and have a huge business with 160 people making me money everyday back at home. nd they are sadly expecting more than a week of romance.
.Wow!! You are amazing!! Simply amazing!! LOL.
C Jack Sparrow
09-11-15, 18:51
I sent her contact info to 13-15 guys, but she only met like 2. What a disappointment.
She is the Porno-Pocahontas John Smith met back in 1607.
She seldom answers on whatsapp.
She seems to, live by the day; but she said he was 27 yo, 13 months ago; so she should be eager to keep up. Some datas indicate that she actually is 31-32.
But as experiences guys noticed; the young one's 18-21 have (or had I should say) good $$ opportunity in their own country. But now even the real Spinners from EAFIT, UPB etc have to hit the market, which they despiced for years! DR youngsters seems to leave their country very same day they get their passport / cedula of 18 yo. The just go, find some unemployed Sout / East Europeans, goes on, yomorrow literally does not exist for DRs.
Colombianas gets old, after 25 only the knife can hold back the comptition for a time! Kids, gynological problems and need of a business model and less demanding customers, so then they operates in the still rich parts of Brazil, Chile, Peru, Ecuador, Panama and Costa Rica. Market is shrinking by the day though! Dany, from Medellin, a pure 10, are now worried for real!
Newly discovered $$$ strong client places; Dubai and Chinas +10-20 x 10 million people metropoles gives some hope though, but crisis is knockin on the door there too- and strongly!
Seasoned mongers says almost unimously that the 2008 financial crisis, and still a enourmous debt to deal with; will keep up supply of young sexy girls, for prices that now, after having lagged, mongers aren't that comunicative as they on the other side; Prices in our beloved Medellin general prices can go down 20-50%. The thing.
Is already gone so far so if we include the depreciation of the peso against $$$ and €€€, with around 40%.
It's Frank Casios; Paradise Medellin; it looked like a place with prices increasingly 10-20-30% a year for us lonely guys. But FC Paradise is coming back; and it's going fast!
Now this is not a short downswing; Paradise Conditions are here to stay!
Put a breakdown in the Santos Gov. FARC onto that; and you can have New Life for yourself!
New Life, 40 k pesos, Energy 60 k and no BBBJ-propinas. I mean; hold out some months maybe a (long hard) year and save up; then start an Sex-Terrorism never to be seen since Thailand in the 60's.
Western World incomes, especially for single men are rising faster than ever; while prices, for what I love to consume; are falling down to levels that makes it feels " it's all for free".
Life Is Good!
And I was about to get married with a paisa just some months ago!
1970 prices with 2010 security and infrastructure!
BlueChange
09-11-15, 23:13
Hey so I realize it seems the only game in town where there are consistent 8's and above is Energy. I think it's because they are the most organized. I feel like Medellin needs a new place that's strictly 9+. I know that BS place that overcharges fell off but guys don't you feel a new place could emerge?? Is a foreigner allowed to have a biz like this down there? Imagine if one of our own opened a place there! Anyone else though of doing this?
Had a much better time of it here yesterday. It's open 10-19:00, 7 days a week.
It's COP 35 k for 30 mins and COP 60 k for 1 HR. Seems you are supposed to decide beforehand what you want, but the mamasan took a 50 k deposit off me and promised to refund me if I was out in 30 minutes. .
Anyway, I chose a really pretty girl called Juliana. Doesn't speak EN but my ES has improved recently so we managed to get on well. She's a very cute girl - 21 with a baby but no stretchies. She's flaca so probably won't appeal to all. But she does BBBJ which seems quiet rare these days in the massage places, and genuinely enjoyed herself with me.
I said I'd take her out one night when I get back from Cali.
I agree! I suggest you call it Liquid Strip!
Hey so I realize it seems the only game in town where there are consistent 8's and above is Energy. I think it's because they are the most organized. I feel like Medellin needs a new place that's strictly 9+. I know that BS place that overcharges fell off but guys don't you feel a new place could emerge?? Is a foreigner allowed to have a biz like this down there? Imagine if one of our own opened a place there! Anyone else though of doing this?
Legal Tender
09-12-15, 02:26
I was one of the first guys to go into the mansion over 10 years ago. It was a penthouse and Greg not only had P4P but he was also running a dating agency. He hooked me up with a fine group of ladies that never asked for a dime from me other than food, drinks and taxis. At the end of the week I was done and ready to go home. The girl I spent the most time with considered us novios and I was too freaked lazy to walk down to to the bank and pull out some living cash for her. I got into the drivers car heading to the airport and left her with one $20 bill!
Since then I have been all over Latin america and have had countless girlfriends and I have only paid for girls a few times when I took friends into Medellin that didn't have any good connections.
I play golf, tennis, surf, dance and read while away with the ladies and have a huge business with 160 people making me money everyday back at home. I'm not young nor old at 40 but I have been banging high quality girls since I was 14 and most of those years I had a steady girl at home that made us 4 babies. I'm honest with my wife, she knows I get bored and she doesn't care what I do as long as I don't bring anything home or fall in love.
I usually wife up, explore the city I'm in and at the end I give the girl 600 to 700 plus all her food and anything else we did. That's my style. It keeps me out of casas away from the P4P girls and they are sadly expecting more than a week of romance.
So I am one of those millionaires that goes to Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena, Costa Rica, panama, Cuba, dr, Argentina. I'm having a blast and as long as I stay in shape I'm good for a while. Just got back from Medellin and stayed at affinity next to Oviedo. Had 1 fine 24 year old that I have seen once before. I met her on Facebook and we are in love.
Next up is a dermatologist out of Bogota with a visa. I plan to see her in Bogota and then fly her into miami for a long weekend in the near future. I have been on this site as a senior member that was banned many times because I call it like it is.
Traveling, exploring, looking out the plane window and pondering my next adventure makes my soul energized and keeps the burnout of owning a big company at bay. I ll bet I will be in Bogota in less than 2 weeks and banging a doctor while she exams my skin.
Last few years I have been requiring the girls to get checked for a full panel of STDs so when I arrive I get her papers and I can bang her with no fear of HIV. They actually sell at drugstores HIV testing kits you could take and tell her its to check her blood sugar levels.
Surprisingly they never ask me to do the same.If this narrative is anywhere close to being true, you're an asshole. Narcissism personified. If you have accumulated substantial wealth and are doing nothing to improve the lives of the girls you enjoy, you're a rich asshole.
Digressing, I suspect we have a new troll. Seven contributions and an admitted history of being banned "many times" before. Nothing worse than some dude that's made some money and still lacks class.
Sad.
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C Jack Sparrow
09-12-15, 03:28
If this narrative is anywhere close to being true, you're an asshole. Narcissism personified. If you have accumulated substantial wealth and are doing nothing to improve the lives of the girls you enjoy, you're a rich asshole.
Digressing, I suspect we have a new troll. Seven contributions and an admitted history of being banned "many times" before. Nothing worse than some dude that's made some money and still lacks class.
Sad.He has just seen Scarface, Goodfellas, and such movies, combined with some happy-drugs; + Savages, The Counselour and Miss Bala.
Mr Go is on drugs, he's a troll!
GottaGo, come back when the abstinencia is hitting in!
This is Pure Troll BS.
Nothing wrong, but a Troll is a Troll!
Hey everybody,
My buddy and I, we are looking for a pickup bar something like Del Rey in Costa Rica. Our plan is to find some girls that we can meet and invite them to party with us all night, any suggestions for a pickup day or night other than mansion??
Hey everybody,
My buddy and I, we are looking for a pickup bar something like Del Rey in Costa Rica. Our plan is to find some girls that we can meet and invite them to party with us all night, any suggestions for a pickup day or night other than mansion??If you guys aren't semi fluent in Spanish your going to have a room time of it. You might find what your looking for in Parque Lleras though. Good luck.
Black Page
09-12-15, 17:16
How many times did we hear that from a chica in Colombia, as lousy justification for missing a meeting, not being reachable, etc?
Yesterday I went to Luna Lunera. Frankly I remembered a better line-up from past years. Also, the weekend is not the best time to go there: lots of guys sitting who want to party, with the same number of available girls who are overbooked.
First negative surprise: the new policy says that the minimum order is 3 beers, or 3 whiskies, or 3 whatsoever. OK, I understand they don't want cheap guys to sit down and have 1 Poker, so I order 3 beers for me. Afte a while, I am sitting with a girl, and I want to order something for her to drink.
Again the waiter: "Do you want 3 tequilas? Or 3 whiskies? Or 3... ?" WTF! I already took my 3 items, I understand the minimum order policy applies to the first order, not to any subsequent order! It looks like anything here comes multiplied in 3 copies.
I ask the girl if I can take her to the room alone, or she must come with 2 girls more to obey the x3 policy. No, girls can come single.
After some negotiation, we can order a single drink for the girl (20k).
However, let me go back to the subject. The girl tells me her phone is old, because the good one was damaged because "se mojó". I wonder if she's justifying in advance for missing calls? The good part comes next. She says it got wet and damaged because she had it on the bed doing 4 some with 2 guys and a girl, and SHE SQUIRTED ALL OVER IT. :eek:
WTF! First time I hear that kind of accident to a phone! Usually I don't believe a girl who tells me "Mi telfono se mojó", but this story is a first-time heard.
OK, laugh, then proceed to the deed. My performance is terrible. I am still tired and jet-lagged, I don't know, it's 3am here and 10am in Europe, but my thing keeps going up and down. Shameful.
In spite of this, she's very enthusiast. After 20 minutes, I feel all wet in down parts and I see her pussy squirting liquid, spurting at distance, hosing me and the bed!
An area 60 cm-wide of the sheet is all wet. I mean really WET.
Now I trust her. She did not lie to me. It must be true: su telfono se mojó!
Black Page
09-12-15, 17:28
Guess what restaurant of Oviedo does feature this masterpiece in the restrooms?
Hey everybody,
My buddy and I, we are looking for a pickup bar something like Del Rey in Costa Rica. Our plan is to find some girls that we can meet and invite them to party with us all night, any suggestions for a pickup day or night other than mansion??I suggest you go to help Medellin or LDV Medellin. Good luck!
If this narrative is anywhere close to being true, you're an asshole. Narcissism personified. If you have accumulated substantial wealth and are doing nothing to improve the lives of the girls you enjoy, you're a rich asshole.
Digressing, I suspect we have a new troll. Seven contributions and an admitted history of being banned "many times" before. Nothing worse than some dude that's made some money and still lacks class.
Sad.Calling out class is classless. Calling someone a liar on the internet is just weird. Words can't hurt a person that actually is a job creator in the usa and not part of the 47 percent freeloaders.
Guys that have been around a while can answer these questions.
Question 1. Where were the girls from that caused the "mansion incident"? I was there! Bonus if you know how many.
Question 2. What was the guys name that was going to be a partner with mansion guys, built his own hotel and has sinse lost it? Its actually boarded up now.
I like to ask you guys. If they are Chica friendly hotels other than mansion or the apartments and condos are a better option when it comes bringing girls back? Let me know thanks.During the last couple years I use AIRBNB. But sometimes it gets to be a hassle to get the keys. But there are some really good managers. What I found out is most of the listings on AIRBNB aren't actually owned by the person on AIRBNB. Some people might have dozens of listings on AIRBNB. They usually are a property management company, or an entrepreneur trying to make money managing these.
AIRBNB is pretty good. There are quite a few lists on here as well. I didn't have problems at San Fernando Plaza, but this time their price is about 2-3 times as much as it was earlier this year. I'm not sure what that is about.
Why do so many mongers think or wish for this? They are hookers. Not your girlfriend and not your lover. They are there for YOU to get your rocks off and for them to get paid.Well, you know. Lots of guys want to also feel loved. We like to think we are the best customer ever. We like to think this girl would stop being a hooker just for me. We like to think she likes me because we treat her much better than an any of her previous customers. We like to think she was waiting to find such a nice man to take her away and save her from doing this for a living. We like to think if this girl was never a hooker she would have gladly been my girlfriend. We like to think if I asked her to stop being a hooker and be my girlfriend she would. We like it when a hot woman sends us a message on Whatsapp asking us how we are baby. We like the Whatsapp kisses, we like to have hot friends on Facebook. We imagine what it would be like to walk around a shopping mall in the USA With a woman like this holding our hands and kissing us in public. We remember the times in foreign countries when we have two or more hot women holding our hands and kissing and frolicking in public, and making a sandwich with us on the dance floor.
But these girls almost never leave without being given money. And after she starts asking for money we ignore her until we get back in town. LOL.
Then there are the 1% guys that just want to fuck for as little money as possible.
I have stayed through AIR over a dozen times in SA, Asia, and USA. It's true that there is a sector of properties managed either by property managers or entrepreneurs. Generally, they charge more than the market rate and more importantly do not provide the direct personal services or advice that can enhance your trip, mongering or otherwise.
Last year I stayed at a place for a few nights in Manila and the American guy who subleased the unit to me sent over a little 20 yo spinner to enjoy for a TLN. Needless to say, that type of personal service is not going to happen on a daily basis. But like RTFF, do your research: know the area where you want to stay, determine a fair market value of the daily rent, check the review of prior guests, and try to find out whether the individual renting the property photo is appearing frequently for other ads. If so, avoid that property like you would a pro FL in Mayorista.
As a sidebar, I stayed in a really nice shared property in MDE last October. However, the American owner did not allow guests and was an anti-mongerer, which was clearly notated in his ad. Since the price was so reasonable, I confined my horizontal activities to other venues and utilized the unit as a haven.
I just booked what appears to be a well situated apartment in Chapinero (Bogota) in October with AIR. $40 per night for a fully equipped new studio and no rules about who and how many guests you can have. It's fairly close to the Casa del Coo (aka Pussy House) and no walk of shame; not that I ever have any.
During the last couple years I use AIRBNB. But sometimes it gets to be a hassle to get the keys. But there are some really good managers. What I found out is most of the listings on AIRBNB aren't actually owned by the person on AIRBNB. Some people might have dozens of listings on AIRBNB. They usually are a property management company, or an entrepreneur trying to make money managing these.
AIRBNB is pretty good. There are quite a few lists on here as well. I didn't have problems at San Fernando Plaza, but this time their price is about 2-3 times as much as it was earlier this year. I'm not sure what that is about.
MedellinGringo
09-13-15, 06:24
Yeah most girls will feel comfortable walking the street with a younger guy, they can blend in. Some of the older guys will bring up stats saying they want older men, but that's because most younger guys are not established and there money is not long like a older guy, but if they had to choose between a young multi millionaire like Justin Beiber, or some 60 year old CEO multi millionaire. Who do you think a typical 18 Year old girl would want to hang out? Or let alone be seen in public with? They can be with a older guy but they will get nothing but dirty looks, kinda like Vice President Dick Cheney. If you seen a old fart like Dick Cheney with some Hot Young Model? Do you honestly take that relationship seriously? Or would you look at that model as a dirty money hungry working girl? But again most girls in Medellin do not have that choice. Most Guys that are wealthy and are multi millionaires won't even set foot in a place like Medellin to look for girls, All the smoking hot exotic Spanish women are all in Miami just take your private jet and go to a club like Livs or the tree house and flash your black card. You will get pussy for days. So what I'm saying is the truth. Its easy to say they want older men, But I never seen these older men that go to Medellin find a rich millionaire Colombian Girl that is not poor and looking for a come up, looking to bang a old gringo. I pretty sure a Colombian girl that is rich and doing good for herself, will want someone her own age. Not a guy that is old enough to be her grandpa.I believe everything you just posted is the truth.
But when you live in Colombia you meet a lot of women that will fuck you done the less.
Some are looking for some type of a "quid quo pro" relationship that is for sure. But some just seem to fuck for the hell of it.
I guess there just aren't enough Justin Bieber's to go around in Colombia or her younger love interests didn't even have enough money to take her to the movies. Because I have gotten laid by women half my age for the price of a movie ticket and a couple of beers on more than one occasion.
Well, you know. Lots of guys want to also feel loved. We like to think we are the best customer ever. We like to think this girl would stop being a hooker just for me. We like to think she likes me because we treat her much better than an any of her previous customers. We like to think she was waiting to find such a nice man to take her away and save her from doing this for a living. We like to think if this girl was never a hooker she would have gladly been my girlfriend. We like to think if I asked her to stop being a hooker and be my girlfriend she would. We like it when a hot woman sends us a message on Whatsapp asking us how we are baby. We like the Whatsapp kisses, we like to have hot friends on Facebook. We imagine what it would be like to walk around a shopping mall in the USA With a woman like this holding our hands and kissing us in public. We remember the times in foreign countries when we have two or more hot women holding our hands and kissing and frolicking in public, and making a sandwich with us on the dance floor.
But these girls almost never leave without being given money. And after she starts asking for money we ignore her until we get back in town. LOL.
Then there are the 1% guys that just want to fuck for as little money as possible.Nothing wrong with playing the GF game as long as you don't lose perspective and remember it is a game.
Well, you know. Lots of guys want to also feel loved. We like to think we are the best customer ever. We like to think this girl would stop being a hooker just for me. We like to think she likes me because we treat her much better than an any of her previous customers. We like to think she was waiting to find such a nice man to take her away and save her from doing this for a living. We like to think if this girl was never a hooker she would have gladly been my girlfriend. We like to think if I asked her to stop being a hooker and be my girlfriend she would. We like it when a hot woman sends us a message on Whatsapp asking us how we are baby. We like the Whatsapp kisses, we like to have hot friends on Facebook. We imagine what it would be like to walk around a shopping mall in the USA With a woman like this holding our hands and kissing us in public. We remember the times in foreign countries when we have two or more hot women holding our hands and kissing and frolicking in public, and making a sandwich with us on the dance floor.
Ha, dats true!
to p arty, with the same number of available girls who are overbooked.
First negative surprise: the new policy says that the minimum order is 3 beers, or 3 whiskies, or 3 whatsoever. OK, I understand they don't want cheap guys to sit down and have 1 Poker, so I order 3 beers for me. Afte a while, I am sitting with a girl, and I want to order something for her to drink.
Again the waiter: "Do you want 3 tequilas? Or 3 whiskies? Or 3... ?" WTF! I already took my 3 items, I understand the minimum order policy applies to the first order, not to any subsequent order! It looks like anything here comes multiplied in 3 copies.
su telfono se moj!Never order a drink for a girl in a strip club. Its usually just watered down fruit juice with no alchohol.
ForceSteeler
09-13-15, 12:30
Well, you know. Lots of guys want to also feel loved. We like to think we are the best customer ever. We like to think this girl would stop being a hooker just for me. We like to think she likes me because we treat her much better than an any of her previous customers. We like to think she was waiting to find such a nice man to take her away and save her from doing this for a living. We like to think if this girl was never a hooker she would have gladly been my girlfriend. We like to think if I asked her to stop being a hooker and be my girlfriend she would. We like it when a hot woman sends us a message on Whatsapp asking us how we are baby. We like the Whatsapp kisses, we like to have hot friends on Facebook. We imagine what it would be like to walk around a shopping mall in the USA With a woman like this holding our hands and kissing us in public. We remember the times in foreign countries when we have two or more hot women holding our hands and kissing and frolicking in public, and making a sandwich with us on the dance floor.
But these girls almost never leave without being given money. And after she starts asking for money we ignore her until we get back in town. LOL.
Then there are the 1% guys that just want to fuck for as little money as possible.Its cool to be loved, We all want to be loved, Its human nature, but just remember the reason why she loves you. Its not because you look good and your nice to her, Its all comes down to how much money can she extract from your wallet. The moment you have no money and there is no more money to be given her, You will see the real person. I always tell these mongers all the time, Girlfriend and having Friends is the same concept. Just because someone hangs out with you and smiles in your face does not mean they are your friends, You will know how people really feel about you when your down on your luck, they will not be on your side and times are tough.
SlamCity7777
09-13-15, 14:55
Interesting comments. Of course, many girls prefer to go with guys that they fancy. Youth is one important characteristic. But so is looks, attitude / personality, and perhaps most importantly. Being able to communicate. When you chat to a girl, being able to talk and entertain in their 'language' is one of the keys.
Youth helps with much of this, but it is not the bottom line. Having a young attitude and open mind is also a winner.Let me say muchas gracias! A fair, even handed, and mature response to the age old "Old Fart vs Young Dickhead" debate! Nothing kicks it off on a monger board than this topic! And feelings and name calling ensues.
Yes you make very valid points in both of your posts (only one quoted) and I agree. The limitations of a message board and my own short attention span do not allow for me to post books and studies on the subject but yes 100% right on there are MANY factors that cominto play when looking for girls pro or not.
Be cool, be kind, be funny, be interesting, be in decent shape, be positive, and don't be a cheap prick. (The Cheap convo also kicks it off as well) In other words be the best you possible.
SlamCity7777
09-13-15, 15:08
How many times did we hear that from a chica in Colombia, as lousy justification for missing a meeting, not being reachable, etc?
Yesterday I went to Luna Lunera. Frankly I remembered a better line-up from past years. Also, the weekend is not the best time to go there: lots of guys sitting who want to party, with the same number of available girls who are overbooked.
First negative surprise: the new policy says that the minimum order is 3 beers, or 3 whiskies, or 3 whatsoever. OK, I understand they don't want cheap guys to sit down and have 1 Poker, so I order 3 beers for me. Afte a while, I am sitting with a girl, and I want to order something for her to drink.
Again the waiter: "Do you want 3 tequilas? Or 3 whiskies? Or 3... ?" WTF! I already took my 3 items, I understand the minimum order policy applies to the first order, not to any subsequent order! It looks like anything here comes multiplied in 3 copies.
I ask the girl if I can take her to the room alone, or she must come with 2 girls more to obey the x3 policy. No, girls can come single.
After some negotiation, we can order a single drink for the girl (20k).
However, let me go back to the subject. The girl tells me her phone is old, because the good one was damaged because "se moj". I wonder if she's justifying in advance for missing calls? The good part comes next. She says it got wet and damaged because she had it on the bed doing 4 some with 2 guys and a girl, and she squirted all over it.
WTF! First time I hear that kind of accident to a phone! Usually I don't believe a girl who tells me "Mi telfono se moj", but this story is a first-time heard.
OK, laugh, then proceed to the deed. My performance is terrible. I am still tired and jet-lagged, I don't know, it's 3am here and 10am in Europe, but my thing keeps going up and down. Shameful.
In spite of this, she's very enthusiast. After 20 minutes, I feel all wet in down parts and I see her pussy squirting liquid, spurting at distance, hosing me and the bed!Oh man. Great story bro! Hahahha! Thanks for sharing! Usually my first cita off of the flight will be a amiga because I know I'll be less than full gas and she knows how to take her time and get me right.
3 x everything lame! OK 3 drink min is fine I guess. But 3 more each other time is just criminal! You had to negotiate with the bar staff to buy a girl one drink?
I'd be worried if a guy in his 30's or 40's falls head over heels for ANY kind of girl. It means he's not really dealing with reality. The main reason why I think a young guy (say in his 20's or early 30's) should avoid mongering is not the silly stuff talked about the last few days; it's that he's a bit more susceptible to this "head over heels" effect, he doesn't yet have the psychological maturity or just extensive life experience of being in the pay-for-play game, or just dealing with women in general, especially colombianas, LOL! He may not appreciate yet just how the hooker game can screw up the chicas, make them really good at living double lives, etc.
Many guys end up having "mini-relationships" with these chicas, especially the semi-pros, and I don't think that's a bad thing at all. It allows both the guy and girl to feel like they're not completely stuck in the monger or hooker life which is a healthy attitude I think.
The key is to stay clear-headed, don't romanticize the situation; realize the long-term prospects are probably not good but it's okay to enjoy the ride for what it is at the moment.
I'm actually more worried about the guys who think they can avoid trouble by dating non-pros. These guys haven't gotten to know the real Colombia yet, LOL!
First of all, many non-pros can be just as ditzy and flaky as the hookers are; and in some ways, just as slutty as well. They just don't "sell" themselves directly. They always nag for gifts and money, but then look down at the so-called real putas.
Some of these non-pros are desperate to land a gringo and a visa. They'll do or say anything to reel that gringo in. Combine that with the "machista" society down there, which "trains" some of these women to be as deceptive and mercenary as possible, and you've got yourself a handful!
At least with a hooker, there's a level of openness and honesty to begin with, there's not that many more secrets left to hide. With a non-pro you can never really be too sure what her history is can you? I was surprised in my 30's how many secrets women (in general) can carry; both in the states and especially down there in Colombia. Now I'm not so surprised, ha ha; in a country where hookers or prepagos are quite common, even many "non-pros" have dabbled in that game (if "only" once or twice) so what can you be really sure about?
But my advice would be not to go crazy thinking about this stuff. Do go down there, do have fun. You only live once, so experience life in all its glories and uncertainties; but just be clear-headed about what the game is and what it is you're doing.
Thing is, this is probably not exactly what guys are looking for. "Feeling loved" is associated with feeling relaxed, enthusiastic response, at least some level of trust, bonding, that sort of stuff. Increased heartrate, excitement. It's all chemicals, principally oxytocin, and looking at it like that makes it easier to identify and get what you really want (the GFE feeling) rather than the unrealistic pre-matrimony feeling.
A good sex worker knows how to create that and also keep some parameters so that you are comfortable about the cash, the quid pro-quo's etc. Toi get that in a p4 p situation usually needs some familiarity with how things work on behalf of the monger. Every country / city has its own peculiarities and Medellin has more than its fair share in my opinion. As a regular-style mongering destination it is not top-class; but it can be top class once you know how things work and how to match what you want to what you can get.
There are many guys who ask, "Where can I find somewhere in Medellin like. " and name their favourite venue in another country. It doesn't really work like that, and it could well stretch the patience of some of the locals just trying to get guys to listen.
The most accessible red light district is Mayorista, a strip of dimly lit bars with girls spilling out of them. Unfortunately you can no longer sit at a table outside and flirt with the girls. If you go inside one of the (often half-empty bars) then you feel a bit pigeon-holed. But at least you can go along to Mayorista any night and take pot luck. If you can dance or speak Spanish, that ups your chances of getting some 'GFE" feeling (as it does anywhere), but there is no rule. It's mid-range ' cheap (both in pennies and style).
The most popular area, though not monger-only location, is Lleras Park. There's far more regular girls, thousands of them (including some quid pro quo or sex-for-benefits types) but mostly you need some chips as well as cash. Eg being in an 18-35 age-group, not looking like a total nerd, plus having one of three when it comes to some game, some Spanish, some dance ability. If you have none of these, your chances of picking up a hot, educated university student when you are a fat, ageing, badly-dressed monger are minimal.
For the experienced, very adventurous and streetwise who are good at learning from scratch, there are superb downtown and other locations where you can drink, flirt, and have sex for a nominal amount, but most locals would never dream of going there. Neither would many of them go to the rip-off stripclub bars. (If you are a sex-starved American however you may find some 'rip-off' places 'good'.
If you have plenty of time to get to know the scene and work it, there are a vast number of fun options: but if you don't, then you are likely to a) visit Mayorsitsa and one or two of the better downtown casas; b) hang out in Lleras to see if you can get laid; c) feel you don't have that sort of time to spare and just opt for the Mansion or Jake all-inclusive trip (oxytocin included). I'm definitely a solo-monger and hate being hand-held. I've done all the options above. But for Medellin, it is pointless to knock Mansion and Jake since they take all the work out of it and provide the holiday that people come here dreaming about (IMHO charging appropriately and reasonably for the privilege of course).
Let me say muchas gracias! A fair, even handed, and mature response to the age old "Old Fart vs Young Dickhead" debate! Nothing kicks it off on a monger board than this topic! And feelings and name calling ensues.
Yes you make very valid points in both of your posts (only one quoted) and I agree. The limitations of a message board and my own short attention span do not allow for me to post books and studies on the subject but yes 100% right on there are MANY factors that cominto play when looking for girls pro or not.
Be cool, be kind, be funny, be interesting, be in decent shape, be positive, and don't be a cheap prick. (The Cheap convo also kicks it off as well) In other words be the best you possible.Yes, there are many variables. And added to that, every girl is different.
Black Page
09-13-15, 18:33
Thing is, this is probably not exactly what guys are looking for.
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Every country / city has its own peculiarities and Medellin has more than its fair share in my opinion. As a regular-style mongering destination it is not top-class; but it can be top class once you know how things work and how to match what you want to what you can get.
There are many guys who ask, "Where can I find somewhere in Medellin like. " and name their favourite venue in another country. It doesn't really work like that, and it could well stretch the patience of some of the locals just trying to get guys to listen.
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This post is outstanding IMHO. I rarely saw such a precise description of things here (I am in MDE now! Ahah). I agree with all you say. That is also my perception of places. I will also link it in the ROD. You wrote all things which are well known by many, but not enough understood my many others.
Now, since I rarely say "bravo" without asking more or criticize, I might invite you to write a short note to detail "For the experienced, very adventurous and streetwise who are good at learning from scratch, there are superb downtown and other locations where you can drink, flirt, and have sex for a nominal amount, but most locals would never dream of going there".
I like to hit highs and lows. I wish there would be bars in Lleras like those in CTG, where you meet the girls, then once they know you will take them for at least a ST, you can party hard with them doing even bar hopping before bringing her / them home.
Here, the first problem is bringing a girl to the hotel, unless you don't choose a very specific one. I invited my novia two times to spend a few days with me at Four Points, and all times I was investigated as a pimp. When I dared to invite a stunning girl from La Isla, someone even came from the reception to the room to check "for su seguridad" and to MAKE ME SIGN A PAPER TO AGREE TO PAY ADDITIONAL 100k (!!) (All this while I was already showering).
In the past, I liked to explore on foot the Centro around the Prado station also after midnight, looking for jewels in the garbage, keeping my ass always safe in spite of the teen gangs of various ladrones. Now, the place just looks ugly, while the bars in Raudal are still the place to go for those who look for a really popular hard-core Colombian experience (don't go there dressed as Dallas cowboy or if you think you are in "Columbia").
I know I will shock 99% of readers, but I discovered that the dump of young glue-sniffers hanging behind San Diego hides some jewels.
I went to explore various times with friendly taxi drivers (not any driver will do it). After endless tours and chats with girls, I found a girl who looks young but not so young to look under legal age, told me she is 19 yo, sniffs glue but once naked has awesome clean firm body, and she has pretty face, except a couple of slightly broken teeth. I went with her and her sister (wow), and another time with her and another friend of her.
Would you believe that I never got such a porn-star experience with any girl from LL, Barra Ejecutiva, or other bars?
She does everything to please me, even true lesbian games (how many did try 3 some with two sisters playing lesbian?? First time experience for me), without the professional look and fake attitude of most 200 k girls. She's a good kind girl. I paid her double the amount she originally requested the first time (20 k), that is 40 k and 50 k.
Black Page
09-13-15, 18:49
Oh man. Great story bro! Hahahha! Thanks for sharing! Usually my first cita off of the flight will be a amiga because I know I'll be less than full gas and she knows how to take her time and get me right.
3 x everything lame! OK 3 drink min is fine I guess. But 3 more each other time is just criminal! You had to negotiate with the bar staff to buy a girl one drink?She did it on my behalf. I paid 20 k her drink, though. I also paid 20k one more Smirnoff (sparkling mix) to take to the room.
The whole place is a ripoff: 120 k 30 mins with the girl in the room, 180 k for 1 hour, my initial 3 beers 55 k, etc.
But I don't know in what other bar to go at night, besides LL, or Maracaibo and Barra Ejecutiva at a different level. I will try San Diego Grill (the street junkies are another kind of experience).
I want to try Casablanca. Anyone went there?
I liked the swinger bars (see other post), but 3 nights / week it's couples-only, so you need a girl to hire beforehand, and in the nights with singles admitted they are almost empty.
Black Page
09-13-15, 18:59
Never order a drink for a girl in a strip club. Its usually just watered down fruit juice with no alchohol.What an odd advice. Let me explain you something.
1) The drink is for the girl, not for you. If it's without alcohol, it's per HER request to preserve her liver, not the owner's wallet.
2) I buy the company of the girl, not the quality of the drink.
3) In that specific case, the drink was a terrible cocktail shot including some tequila and who knows what else (I tasted it).
4) Don't ever think to pay drinks to make a Colombian girl drunk and take advantage of the situation. Most Colombian girls can drink much more than the foreign visitor and see him falling down while having one more shot.
In the past, I liked to explore on foot the Centro around the Prado station also after midnight, looking for jewels in the garbage, keeping my ass always safe in spite of the teen gangs of various ladrones. Now, the place just looks ugly, while the bars in Raudal are still the place to go for those who look for a really popular hard-core Colombian experience (don't go there dressed as Dallas cowboy or if you think you are in "Columbia").
I know I will shock 99% of readers, but I discovered that the dump of young glue-sniffers hanging behind San Diego hides some jewels.
I went to explore various times with friendly taxi drivers (not any driver will do it). After endless tours and chats with girls, I found a girl who looks young but not so young to look under legal age, told me she is 19 yo, sniffs glue but once naked has awesome clean firm body, and she has pretty face, except a couple of slightly broken teeth. I went with her and her sister (wow), and another time with her and another friend of her.
Would you believe that I never got such a porn-star experience with any girl from LL, Barra Ejecutiva, or other bars?
She does everything to please me, even true lesbian games (how many did try 3 some with two sisters playing lesbian?? First time experience for me), without the professional look and fake attitude of most 200 k girls. She's a good kind girl. I paid her double the amount she originally requested the first time (20 k), that is 40 k and 50 k.I'm in the 1% not shocked by your experiences as I have had some great experiences with the street girls in and around Botero Plaza, and yes your correct about some of the glue sniffers, perfect bodies, unbelievable performances, etc. At ridiculous prices. It's a shame to see them frying their brain cells.
King Of Crunk
09-13-15, 21:53
Here is a little report about my recent trip in August. I arrived around 11 in the afternoon from Bogota. Taxi ride (non metered) 60 k to Poblado. Same price on the way back. First Day went to Thai Spa. They have a website just google it. Its right next to LOS Molines mall which is on the right hand hand side after Las Palmas bus stop about 2 blocks over on called 81 A. At night its real dark but its a residential area. There is a security guard in the front. Walked inside its really nice. Was approached by a female host, my Spanish is ok but I asked if there was a English speaker which there happen to be. I was sitting at the couch and he brought out a price menu both for services and drinks. Keep in mind if they bring out girls and you don't take anyone there is a fee of 20 k which includes 1 drink. So I asked for the line up and they bring out about 6-7 girls. All fairly attractive but the highest I would rate about a 7. So I took Manuela, she's about 5'8 with heels. Light skin and long hair. She brought me to the room and undressed. Tight body curvy little ass however the tits was bee sting had me thinking I was really in Thailand LOL. Whatever I wasn't sweating it. The room is really nice as there is a queen size bed and flat screen TV playing porn. Also had a cabinet on the right hand side in which you could by chips, tooth brush, anal lube, etc. We get into the bathroom and its nice as well having ribbons with the company branding imprinted on it. We get into the shower and she starts rubbing me up, I'm hard within seconds and she takes a scrub with soap and scrubs me up. We take care of that and get to the bed and she proceeded to give me a massage. Back and front not bad now to the sex. She gave a good BJ covered. I didn't even ask if that could go uncovered as my readings lead me to believe that's the norm. We get the foreplay out the way and now to the fucking. All positions. She was wet and tight but I did lose about a hour prior to being lost somewhat. Best was when she got on top and rode them cowboy. I bust a nut and we chill until the time ends. Would I repeat sure why not but I don't fuck the same working girl twice so I got to move on to the next one. I only remember the price 140 k for 30 minutes, 170 k for 45 minutes with massage and I took that option. There are more options after that for different massages and multiple girls but I forget how they go. Left there and went back home. Next day I did some non mongering activities and checked out Parque Lleras which was far by foot from my apartment. I saw some Las Vegas style advertising for La Isla drive by along with girls handing cards to other places. The place itself was packed but alot of the establishments with the exception of some restaraunts looked empty. The park itself filled with locals and foreigners. Saw some working girls but I was more interested in partying than mongering. No action that night. Next day I called a girl I found via theprivee dot com. We communicated via phone then by Whatsapp. She has a apartment which one price is charged for incall but for outcall she charged 180 K for 1 hour that's with taxi. I forget the name but the picture was extremely photoshopped. I thought I was going to get a white skin girl but she was dark and indigenous looking. She was pretty and I was horny so we get down to business when shearrives. I stayed at a aparthotel and thought I would have a issue but no issues. She had some of those NIke Dri Fit workout clothes and looked really tight however after she got naked she was saggy. We do the deed it was ok I was horny and needed to bust a nut but wouldn't repeat. I forget her name but do have the number. I only had 3 days there but I loved Medellin would go back in a heartbeat. The food scene shocked me the most as it was quality and inexpensive. I went to centro but had non monger things to do so I really didn't explore there. The regular chicks do look good hell I even saw a lady in a wheel chair dressed to the tee. So I was reading the board and there was a debate about shorts. Majority of people who wore shorts were foreigners. I saw a couple locals wear shorts but I didn't feel like a target when I wore them. Everyone was wearing pants. I like the weather the most. Eternal Spring they say. I lost my bank card but still had cash and each time I had to change money I only got 1 usd to 2600 pesos. 1st place was from Hotel 10 on Calle 10 but this was at night and I didn't see any exchange places open. I went to La 70 and asked about 10 hotels before I got one that would exchange for same rate. That place is really cool but I would say you need to speak good spanish and know how to dance salsa if you really want to pull regular chicks. I can't wait to go back.
I'm planning a quick trip to Colombia. Spend about a week or so travelling around. I been to Colombia before, but not for mongering.
A quick question as I will combine it with somewhere else. What is it like over the Christmas break? I may stay at the mansion. Should I time my stay between Christmas / new year so should I arrive a week before Christmas (and then continue my travel onto somewhere else)? My concern is that during the Christmas period all the chicas will be spending time at home and not at the mansion?
Thanks,
Traveling anywhere in Latin America to monger over Christmastime will be sub-optimal and is not recommended. I would only do it if it is the only time of year you could possibly do it, and even then I would be prepared to be disappointed. It will be better than staying home and jacking off, but should not be your first choice.
But arriving a week before Christmas and then moving on would be considerably better than being there between Christmas and New Year's. You will be okay up until around the 22nd because the chicas need money for the holidays. Even the 23rd might be okay, so so. After that forget it.
I'm planning a quick trip to Colombia. Spend about a week or so travelling around. I been to Colombia before, but not for mongering.
A quick question as I will combine it with somewhere else. What is it like over the Christmas break? I may stay at the mansion. Should I time my stay between Christmas / new year so should I arrive a week before Christmas (and then continue my travel onto somewhere else)? My concern is that during the Christmas period all the chicas will be spending time at home and not at the mansion?
Thanks,Well, Christmas time is usually not good. The earlier you can arrive in December the better. They will try to make some travel and Christmas money.
But, if you had to go somewhere in Central or South America during Christmas time, Colombia would be as pretty good choice.
For example, a lot of girls here in Panama, where I am now, will go home for Christmas. That means a place like Panama will have most of it's Colombian, Venezuelan and other chicas leave Panama. But, a girl from Medellin won't need to leave Medellin for Christmas. Maybe there might even be more girls in the freelance spots. Now in a city like Cartagena, most girls come from a different city. In Bogota there are women from many different cities. So a place like Cartagena would suck. A lot of the girls I see in Medellin are from Medellin, or a little South or North. If you can stockpile lots of phone numbers before Christmas you will be OK. Stay away from places where lots of the girls come from somewhere else, like Panama or Costa Rica. They might ave their own chicas working in their country, but it seems like the most exported pussy in Colombianas.
Thing is, this is probably not exactly what guys are looking for. "Feeling loved" is associated with feeling relaxed, enthusiastic response, at least some level of trust, bonding, that sort of stuff. Increased heartrate, excitement. It's all chemicals, principally oxytocin, and looking at it like that makes it easier to identify and get what you really want (the GFE feeling) rather than the unrealistic pre-matrimony feeling.
A good sex worker knows how to create that and also keep some parameters so that you are comfortable about the cash, the quid pro-quo's etc. Toi get that in a p4 p situation usually needs some familiarity with how things work on behalf of the monger. Every country / city has its own peculiarities and Medellin has more than its fair share in my opinion. As a regular-style mongering destination it is not top-class; but it can be top class once you know how things work and how to match what you want to what you can get.
There are many guys who ask, "Where can I find somewhere in Medellin like. " and name their favourite venue in another country. It doesn't really work like that, and it could well stretch the patience of some of the locals just trying to get guys to listen.
The most accessible red light district is Mayorista, a strip of dimly lit bars with girls spilling out of them. Unfortunately you can no longer sit at a table outside and flirt with the girls. If you go inside one of the (often half-empty bars) then you feel a bit pigeon-holed. But at least you can go along to Mayorista any night and take pot luck. If you can dance or speak Spanish, that ups your chances of getting some 'GFE" feeling (as it does anywhere), but there is no rule. It's mid-range ' cheap (both in pennies and style).
The most popular area, though not monger-only location, is Lleras Park. There's far more regular girls, thousands of them (including some quid pro quo or sex-for-benefits types) but mostly you need some chips as well as cash. Eg being in an 18-35 age-group, not looking like a total nerd, plus having one of three when it comes to some game, some Spanish, some dance ability. If you have none of these, your chances of picking up a hot, educated university student when you are a fat, ageing, badly-dressed monger are minimal.
For the experienced, very adventurous and streetwise who are good at learning from scratch, there are superb downtown and other locations where you can drink, flirt, and have sex for a nominal amount, but most locals would never dream of going there. Neither would many of them go to the rip-off stripclub bars. (If you are a sex-starved American however you may find some 'rip-off' places 'good'.
If you have plenty of time to get to know the scene and work it, there are a vast number of fun options: but if you don't, then you are likely to a) visit Mayorsitsa and one or two of the better downtown casas; b) hang out in Lleras to see if you can get laid; c) feel you don't have that sort of time to spare and just opt for the Mansion or Jake all-inclusive trip (oxytocin included). I'm definitely a solo-monger and hate being hand-held. I've done all the options above. But for Medellin, it is pointless to knock Mansion and Jake since they take all the work out of it and provide the holiday that people come here dreaming about (IMHO charging appropriately and reasonably for the privilege of course).Nice info. I'll have to check out this Mayorista zone once I figure out where it is. What time is best to go?
Joe Six Pack
09-14-15, 06:14
Hello guys,
I mix mongering and dating to get the best of my travel dollars, and do score some free pussy once I a while.
I need some intel on one of the girls that I am dating, I found her on one of the agency site not sure if she is a P4 P or a regular girl, just wanted to know if any of you seen her in the action or dated her.
Below is her profile.
http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile_latigresa.html
Photos are below, she goes by Jen, she is in the first two photos, any intel appreciated.
Dating in Medellin has become difficult as most of the girls have left the city, married to gringos, working P4 P in big cities like Dubai etc.
I often see Medellin girls now in Miami, Houston and NY working as Escorts, not sure how they are getting visas to travel.
I also monger in Bogota, Medellin and Cali, I do have lots of contact, if you any of you interested, I have attached some photos.
I'm me I can give numbers.
This has been mentioned time and time again on this forum but I guess it bears repeating. I know many Americans are free to travel abroad around the end-of-year holidays but it's a really bad idea if you're going for a monger vacation, especially in Latin America. A smarter strategy would be, as mentioned below, to go 1-2 weeks before Christmas as all kinds of girls need extra money for all the obvious reasons.
It might be a good idea for the moderator to put a sticky post in the different lists forums the major holidays in Colombia which would be a bad time to monger. Off the top of my head I would avoid monger type vacations during the following periods:
Christmas to New Year's.
Holy Week / Semana Santa ending in Easter Sunday / Pascua.
Feria de Flores in Medellin (early August).
Carnaval in Baranquilla.
Colombian Independence Day (July 20).
It's best to go either 1-2 weeks before when the chicas are looking to make some extra money, or after, when they've blown all their cash, LOL!
Since many guys are freer to travel abroad and have their monger vacation in the summer, notice that for Medellin, you have a narrow window right after the big blowout party of July 20 and the Feria de Flores in early August.
If you have established contacts, if you have one or two non-pro or semi-pro chicas that you're pretty confident you'll be able to hang out with, then travelling during these times is okay, and can actually be a lot of fun, but it won't be your average monger vacation, there won't be much action in the casas or strip clubs. Most of the whatsapp and facebook crew will also probably be unavailable, not to mention agency girls and freelancers on mundoanuncio and masajistaspaisas. Street game might still be possible, those kinds of girls usually don't have much of a family to be with on holidays (sadly) and are always looking for a few extra pesos but instinct tells me it could still be an uncertain prospect. I'm sure there's some desperate chica out there selling it on Christmas or New Year's but the idea seems so pathetic and sad (both for the hooker and the john) that it's hard for me to imagine, ha ha!
SlamCity7777
09-14-15, 16:39
Well, Christmas time is usually not good. The earlier you can arrive in December the better. They will try to make some travel and Christmas money.
But, if you had to go somewhere in Central or South America during Christmas time, Colombia would be as pretty good choice.
For example, a lot of girls here in Panama, where I am now, will go home for Christmas. That means a place like Panama will have most of it's Colombian, Venezuelan and other chicas leave Panama. But, a girl from Medellin won't need to leave Medellin for Christmas. Maybe there might even be more girls in the freelance spots. Now in a city like Cartagena, most girls come from a different city. In Bogota there are women from many different cities. So a place like Cartagena would suck. A lot of the girls I see in Medellin are from Medellin, or a little South or North. If you can stockpile lots of phone numbers before Christmas you will be OK. Stay away from places where lots of the girls come from somewhere else, like Panama or Costa Rica. They might ave their own chicas working in their country, but it seems like the most exported pussy in Colombianas.You swapped a 3 pt shot bro! Very true but let me chime in and say the girls in Mede will be gone from the city as well. They all go to the Finca, Playa, Pueblos to visit abuela. THe city is dead as told to me by many gringos visiting and several that are expats there.
There will be some girls working in the clubs, casas, corners, but a skeleton crew vs what what the normal standards would be.
As stated below 100 x the time before Christmas is IMO the best time to go!! Every non pro, semi etc will be looking for loot and its awesome!
Nice info. I'll have to check out this Mayorista zone once I figure out where it is. What time is best to go?Best to go first time with someone who knows their way around or a trusted cab driver.
This has been mentioned time and time again on this forum but I guess it bears repeating. I know many Americans are free to travel abroad around the end-of-year holidays but it's a really bad idea if you're going for a monger vacation, especially in Latin America. A smarter strategy would be, as mentioned below, to go 1-2 weeks before Christmas as all kinds of girls need extra money for all the obvious reasons.
It might be a good idea for the moderator to put a sticky post in the different lists forums the major holidays in Colombia which would be a bad time to monger. Off the top of my head I would avoid monger type vacations during the following periods:
Christmas to New Year's.
Holy Week / Semana Santa ending in Easter Sunday / Pascua.
Feria de Flores in Medellin (early August).
Carnaval in Baranquilla.
Colombian Independence Day (July 20).
It's best to go either 1-2 weeks before when the chicas are looking to make some extra money, or after, when they've blown all their cash, LOL!
Since many guys are freer to travel abroad and have their monger vacation in the summer, notice that for Medellin, you have a narrow window right after the big blowout party of July 20 and the Feria de Flores in early August.
If you have established contacts, if you have one or two non-pro or semi-pro chicas that you're pretty confident you'll be able to hang out with, then travelling during these times is okay, and can actually be a lot of fun, but it won't be your average monger vacation, there won't be much action in the casas or strip clubs. Most of the whatsapp and facebook crew will also probably be unavailable, not to mention agency girls and freelancers on mundoanuncio and masajistaspaisas. Street game might still be possible, those kinds of girls usually don't have much of a family to be with on holidays (sadly) and are always looking for a few extra pesos but instinct tells me it could still be an uncertain prospect. I'm sure there's some desperate chica out there selling it on Christmas or New Year's but the idea seems so pathetic and sad (both for the hooker and the john) that it's hard for me to imagine, ha ha!If one wants to go to Colombia between Christmas and New Year's, the best place to go by far is Cali. La Feria de Cali is Dec 25 to Dec 30 and it's a fantastic time. Girls everywhere, pro, semi- and non-pro, partying like crazy and available. For those into Afro-Latin Music and Dance, it's a can't-miss event.
I've got some business in centro Medellin and am looking for a hotel that is clean and "guest friendly". Any suggestions? Nutibara?
Best to go first time with someone who knows their way around or a trusted cab driver.Sure, but I mean what's the best time of day to go?
Colombia Jake
09-15-15, 16:23
If one wants to go to Colombia between Christmas and New Year's, the best place to go by far is Cali. La Feria de Cali is Dec 25 to Dec 30 and it's a fantastic time. Girls everywhere, pro, semi- and non-pro, partying like crazy and available. For those into Afro-Latin Music and Dance, it's a can't-miss event.Medellin has the *Lights on the Rio* which has a ton of Girls looking for Gringo Santas! I searched high and low in Cali on a trip I took for three days and didn't see one beauty seriously! Here is our newest Girlfriend Rental named Nicole, come take it for a spin and leave the keys when your done!
Thanks,
Colombia Jake.
Nino Bravo
09-15-15, 16:27
I have been traveling and living off and on in Colombia for over 20 years now. Never even got into the P4P scene until 3 years ago. Damn, what did those "regular" girls do to you to drive you to P4P?
Medellin has the *Lights on the Rio* which has a ton of Girls looking for Gringo Santas! I searched high and low in Cali on a trip I took for three days and didn't see one beauty seriously! Here is our newest Girlfriend Rental named Nicole, come take it for a spin and leave the keys when your done!
Thanks,
Colombia Jake.Lights on Rio or not, I wouldn't advise MDE between Christmas and NY's. I don't know where you went in Cali, but there are tons of hot Calenas and from Dec 25-30, the City is more alive than at any other time of year.
My only complaint with Cali is that there are too many silicone tits and asses (yes even more than MDE).
I also monger in Bogota, Medellin and Cali, I do have lots of contact, if you any of you interested, I have attached some photos.
I'm me I can give numbers.I'm interested in the fourth girl. Is she in Medellin?
The Tall Man
09-15-15, 19:33
Hello guys,
I mix mongering and dating to get the best of my travel dollars, and do score some free pussy once I a while.
I need some intel on one of the girls that I am dating, I found her on one of the agency site not sure if she is a P4 P or a regular girl, just wanted to know if any of you seen her in the action or dated her.
Below is her profile.
http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile_latigresa.html
Photos are below, she goes by Jen, she is in the first two photos, any intel appreciated.
Dating in Medellin has become difficult as most of the girls have left the city, married to gringos, working P4 P in big cities like Dubai etc.
I often see Medellin girls now in Miami, Houston and NY working as Escorts, not sure how they are getting visas to travel.
I also monger in Bogota, Medellin and Cali, I do have lots of contact, if you any of you interested, I have attached some photos.
I'm me I can give numbers.Joe, you PM is not up and running so no choice but to leave this public request. I will be in MDE for a few weeks in November and would love a few local contact numbers. So once you get your PM working please lets discuss.
Thanks,
The Tall Man.
Jen is definitely a well-known pro.
Davidb3069
09-15-15, 20:36
Can someone tell me what I should be paying for an airport cab to Hotel Central Plaza around midnight? My flight gets in late and I have not been to Medellin before. Are some cab companies more trustworthy than others? Pointers are appreciated given the late arrival.
Feel free to PM me.
David.
Can someone tell me what I should be paying for an airport cab to Hotel Central Plaza around midnight? My flight gets in late and I have not been to Medellin before. Are some cab companies more trustworthy than others? Pointers are appreciated given the late arrival.
Feel free to PM me.
David.I think the standard rate for a cab from the airport is still 60 K pesos. Any taxi at the airport should be safe. Uber will cost 75 K, but if you find a promo and open a new account, it will end up a bit cheaper, plus you can pay with a credit card and it's a classier ride.
Member #4394
09-16-15, 00:44
55-65 k pesos.
Can someone tell me what I should be paying for an airport cab to Hotel Central Plaza around midnight? My flight gets in late and I have not been to Medellin before. Are some cab companies more trustworthy than others? Pointers are appreciated given the late arrival.
Feel free to PM me.
David..
SlamCity7777
09-16-15, 00:48
Can someone tell me what I should be paying for an airport cab to Hotel Central Plaza around midnight? My flight gets in late and I have not been to Medellin before. Are some cab companies more trustworthy than others? Pointers are appreciated given the late arrival.
Feel free to PM me.
David.Shared mini bus or a full sized buss for SUPER cheap. I've never taken it but I've debated it with guys before. Key word search Bus Airport or Colectivo and it should pop up. It's like $4 USD and it drops you right in Centro I believe.
LookingToSwing4
09-16-15, 12:10
Lights on Rio or not, I wouldn't advise MDE between Christmas and NY's. I don't know where you went in Cali, but there are tons of hot Calenas and from Dec 25-30, the City is more alive than at any other time of year.
My only complaint with Cali is that there are too many silicone tits and asses (yes even more than MDE).This statement, not to visit MDE between Christmas and NY, is less than accurate. I have traveled there at least 5-6 times in the days that immediately followed Christmas, and there was PLENTY of action. Never been there before Christmas, but suspect it slows considerably on 12/24 and 25 as they spend time with their families. But after that, it is FULL-ON! NYE is a bit strange as most will opt to spend time with their families, until about midnight. But I have never had a problem getting a quality date for a NYE party. Unsure if the casas are operating because I am not a casa guy, but freelancers are readily available.
MedellinGringo
09-16-15, 17:59
Damn, what did those "regular" girls do to you to drive you to P4P?They started leaving empty spots on my fuck calendar. So I filled in the available time slots with prepagos.
I guess I could start banging women in their thirties but I'm not old enough to go there yet.
Unlike in the US, Christmas Eve is a major party night in Colombia and throughout South America. That's not necessarily great for the hobby, but it's not like girls are all home knitting with grandma. If you have only a few days to visit and plan to stay the 24th-25th-26th, sure, that could be frustrating, but if you are making a visit of a couple weeks or more during the holidays, I don't think it will be much of an issue, especially if you have multiple methods of finding girls. I've spent many in NYs here and neighboring countries.
Shared mini bus or a full sized buss for SUPER cheap. I've never taken it but I've debated it with guys before. Key word search Bus Airport or Colectivo and it should pop up. It's like $4 USD and it drops you right in Centro I believe.Did you not see MIDNIGHT? You do not want to be dropped off in Centro with luggage on your first trip at MIDNIGHT!
Hello?
And you are recommending this and you have never done it, but you have "debated it with guys?"
And it is super cheap?
I have personally taken this bus from Centro to the airport. In the daytime! After living in the city for a couple of months! With a back pack only! It was still not a comfortable experience while waiting, although once on the bus it is fine. And I am fluent in Spanish and have been all over Latin America. You should not be recommending this without having any idea of what it is actually like.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Davidb3069
09-16-15, 23:32
55-65 k pesos.
.Thank you everyone for the info. I rarely would do a bus in the day in most countries. The 60 k info keeps me from being ripped off.
David.
Black Page
09-17-15, 00:04
Did you not see MIDNIGHT? You do not want to be dropped off in Centro with luggage on your first trip at MIDNIGHT!
So true. And a taxi is not only safe and comfortable, but also cheap for US standards: only 60 k (standard fare), which is 15 USD.
Did you not see MIDNIGHT? You do not want to be dropped off in Centro with luggage on your first trip at MIDNIGHT!
Hello?
And you are recommending this and you have never done it, but you have "debated it with guys?"
And it is super cheap?
I have personally taken this bus from Centro to the airport. In the daytime! After living in the city for a couple of months! With a back pack only! It was still not a comfortable experience while waiting, although once on the bus it is fine. And I am fluent in Spanish and have been all over Latin America. You should not be recommending this without having any idea of what it is actually like.
Jesus fucking Christ.From one of the most knowledgeable and experienced members on the entire ISG. Might be a Dickhead, but what he shares and contributes is priceless.
I would not recommend it or do it unless money is so tight that a taxi is not affordable. In that case, I would recommend staying home and saving money until there is enough to travel safely and comfortably. Few if any of us are backpackers.
Did you not see MIDNIGHT? You do not want to be dropped off in Centro with luggage on your first trip at MIDNIGHT!
Hello?
And you are recommending this and you have never done it, but you have "debated it with guys?"
And it is super cheap?
I have personally taken this bus from Centro to the airport. In the daytime! After living in the city for a couple of months! With a back pack only! It was still not a comfortable experience while waiting, although once on the bus it is fine. And I am fluent in Spanish and have been all over Latin America. You should not be recommending this without having any idea of what it is actually like.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Mr Enternational
09-17-15, 03:55
Did you not see MIDNIGHT? You do not want to be dropped off in Centro with luggage on your first trip at MIDNIGHT!First trip probably not. Subsequent trips when I know where I am going, sure. It all depends on your comfort level. I have never arrived at midnight, but I have left to go to the airport on the 4 am bus. No problems for me. Another member arrived at 10 pm a few weeks ago for his first trip. No problems for him either. He did meet a chick that told him to get to the hotel as fast as he could though. I'm sure he will give us reports when he gets a chance.
Many of the guys saying no are probably guys who have never done it as well. No problem DATY and barebacking strange pussy, but I see that being dropped off downtown is where some folks draw the line. LOL.
LookingToSwing4
09-17-15, 12:18
Unlike in the US, Christmas Eve is a major party night in Colombia and throughout South America. That's not necessarily great for the hobby, but it's not like girls are all home knitting with grandma. If you have only a few days to visit and plan to stay the 24th-25th-26th, sure, that could be frustrating, but if you are making a visit of a couple weeks or more during the holidays, I don't think it will be much of an issue, especially if you have multiple methods of finding girls. I've spent many in NYs here and neighboring countries.I have arrived as early as 12/26, but generally 12/27 or 28. I found that to be a fine week to be there. Perhaps it is because the chicas pockets are empty after buying Christmas gifts they cannot afford, and now looking for something to replace it with. LOL.
Can someone tell me what I should be paying for an airport cab to Hotel Central Plaza around midnight? My flight gets in late and I have not been to Medellin before. Are some cab companies more trustworthy than others? Pointers are appreciated given the late arrival.
Feel free to PM me.
David.Hotel Central Plaza is in the Mayorista strip in Itagui and it is not in Centro. To save money, I would recommend first take the airport bus or taxi-collectivo (10-15 k pesos) to San Diego, where local taxis should be lined up for passengers even after the midnight. Then, take the local taxi to Mayorista. I've done it before and it is lot cheaper than taking the taxi from the Rio Negro (MDE) airport to Mayorista (60-70 k pesos). When you arrive at the Mayorista strip, you would see lots of chicas looking for clients even after the midnight. I hope this would help. Good luck.
Davidb3069
09-17-15, 20:15
I went to energia. I thought they might give you a chance to sit and chat a little but they wanted to usher all the girls in. The mamasan was not too helpful although I saw some other latino customers sitting with girls.
There doesn't seem to be many clubs here. Mosly casas it seems? I am back in poblado and the server here is trying to get a friend to come out.
David.
Black Page
09-17-15, 21:59
In 2014, I reported about the Motel Lafayette (say Motel "Lafajet" to the taxi driver), just 1 block from Metro Prado and Casablanca:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1547921&viewfull=1#post1547921
I found another one which beats all. Colombians really know how to manage sex out of home.
Highly recommended for any sex escapage with a superior girl:
Motel Ibiza, in Itagu (10 k taxi from Poblado).
http://motelibiza.com/
It offers nearly EVERYTHING, including roooms with two king size beds (understood?) and sauna for 6 (yes), and even more. From the web site:
Todas nuestras habitaciones cuentan con servicio de:
Internet Wi-Fi.
Televisores LED 42″ (55″ suite presidencial, 70″ Masion).
Todas las habitaciones tienen discoteca why barra de pole dance.
Algunas cuentan con jacuzzi why turco.
Suite Presidencial es para 4 personas (ideal para ocupaciand mltiple), persona adicional tiene precio extra.
Look at the photos on the web site and tell me if Colombians are not one step ahead everyone else. You will appreciate the love wheel, for example. And the nice touch to have a dance pole conveniently in room. And the sauna for 6?
Cost is affordable, from 76 k. Incredible, right?
Black Page
09-17-15, 22:19
First trip probably not. Subsequent trips when I know where I am going, sure. It all depends on your comfort level.
Many of the guys saying no are probably guys who have never done it as well. No problem DATY and barebacking strange pussy, but I see that being dropped off downtown is where some folks draw the line. LOL.I have cruised walking alone the area under the metro Prado and Plaza Botero till 2 am for years. There are even reports, now digged under many hundreds pages. I wish to know how many here would dare to step out of the taxi under the metro at Prado at late night. I have a friend among glue sniffers there, who brought different girls with us each time (recent report). So, I know how is the environment.
Well, suggesting someone at his first visit from USA to take a bus and arrive there at midnight, with luggage and all, maybe why not a cell phone to explore the map to find the hotel, is insane.
Enternational and Black Page clearly know the score on this one. Fully agree with their experiences. As with many late night areas the sensible thing is get to know it really well by day first. Then you know the walks, the body language, the trash, the girls hangouts, the directions to move swiftly to if you suddenly decide to. If you are arriving late at night with luggage, the Nutibara is maybe a slight exception as it is adjacent to where the bus stops (though I can't remember what time it runs till, but well after dark). It stops at the back of the Nutibara, which is an average-disgusting street, poorly lit, but if you can hightail swiftly / nonchalantly round the corner it seems ok. You wouldn't stand there at 1 am wondering if someone is going to politely offer to help you carry it. When you check in at the Nutibara, remember to ask politely, "and is it ok if I bring a companion back?" The English-speaking receptionist may avert her eyes and nod emphatically. It's a strange area. You can sit in the outside bar in perfect hygiene overlooking the great unwashed looking past (rather like the nice barista cafe outside the museum during the daytime). But once you go for a walkabout just remember you are pretty well much in no-mans-land and act accordingly.
I have cruised walking alone the area under the metro Prado and Plaza Botero till 2 am for years. There are even reports, now digged under many hundreds pages. I wish to know how many here would dare to step out of the taxi under the metro at Prado at late night. I have a friend among glue sniffers there, who brought different girls with us each time (recent report). So, I know how is the environment.
Well, suggesting someone at his first visit from USA to take a bus and arrive there at midnight, with luggage and all, maybe why not a cell phone to explore the map to find the hotel, is insane.I'm going to have to assume that you dress and can pass appearance wise as a Colombian, if not I think your insane if your an obvious gringo.
I too have walked alone in and around Plaza Botero late at night and can pass for a Colombian, however I'm still nervous late at night. All of the friends who I have been with and stayed in El Centro with who cannot pass appearance wise as a Colombian have been either followed and / or pick pocketed during their time there. Some other guys that I have met who stay in El Centro are afraid to go out at night unless their in a group. Sounds a little weird but some guys stay in El Centro, primarily hit the Casa's during the day and then stay in their rooms at night.
BrasilSoccer0
09-18-15, 05:06
Many of the guys saying no are probably guys who have never done it as well. No problem DATY and barebacking strange pussy, but I see that being dropped off downtown is where some folks draw the line. LOL.Best quote for today.
ColombiaLover
09-18-15, 05:11
I second the endorsement of Hotel / Motel Ibiza! Great place. Very discreet. Great price. Clean. Updated. Great Jacuzzi and shower. Only problem is that you might run into a problem in prime time (e. G. , Friday and Saturday night). I took a chica there last Friday night and got to the front gate only to be stuck beyond three other taxis and to be told by the guy at the gate that it would be a 50 minute wait.
My taxi driver actually took us to one or two more decent places with the same issue. We finally ended up in some lower quality place in Estrella (Motel Estrella, I think). Clean, cheap and safe enough, but no amenities. Just a place to fuck.
In 2014, I reported about the Motel Lafayette (say Motel "Lafajet" to the taxi driver), just 1 block from Metro Prado and Casablanca:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1547921&viewfull=1#post1547921
I found another one which beats all. Colombians really know how to manage sex out of home.
Highly recommended for any sex escapage with a superior girl:
Motel Ibiza, in Itagu (10 k taxi from Poblado).
http://motelibiza.com/
It offers nearly EVERYTHING, including roooms with two king size beds (understood?) and sauna for 6 (yes), and even more. From the web site:
[i]Todas nuestras habitaciones cuentan con servicio de:
Internet Wi-Fi...
Errol Flynn
09-18-15, 05:40
I'm going to have to assume that you dress and can pass appearance wise as a Colombian, if not I think your insane if your an obvious gringo.
I too have walked alone in and around Plaza Botero late at night but can pass for a Colombian, however I'm still nervous late at night. All of the friends who I have been with and stayed in El Centro with who cannot pass appearance wise as a Colombian have been either followed and / or pick pocketed during their time there. Some other guys that I have met who stay in El Centro are afraid to go out at night unless their in a group. Sounds a little weird but some guys stay in El Centro, primarily hit the Casa's during the day and then stay in their rooms at night.I can't pass as Colombian. I do speak Spanish, but it's obvious to anyone who speaks to me that it's not my native language. Of course I dress appropriately and don't flash money or jewelry.
That said, I have prowled El Centro a bit. In the daytime I feel completely safe. At night I am cautious as I get away from the major commercial spots. I am looking to be on a street with multiple people, checking (and comforted by) a police presence (there's quite a bit of it) and definetly avoiding dark alleys and corners. So far so good. I diod live in NYC for seven years so I understand walking with confidence and projecting a "fuck you" attitude. But as I said, the minute I open my mouth, any pretense of passing for a local is gone.
I lived in NYC for seven years, so I think I can handle MDE. I guess it depends on your risk tolerance but I think the attitude you display is everything. Some would say why bother? And you're probably right, stay at Del Rey and you will not face these risks. But on the rare occassion that prowling El entro rewards you, it will be a far greater reward than anything you will ever find at Del Rey.
Your choice.
EF.
Member #4398
09-18-15, 13:29
http://qcostarica.com/american-found-dead-in-downtown-san-jose-hotel/
Stay at DelRey and you won't face these risks? Well, think twice. There are risks everywhere or just asked that dead guy.
I can't pass as Colombian. I do speak Spanish, but it's obvious to anyone who speaks to me that it's not my native language. Of course I dress appropriately and don't flash money or jewelry.
That said, I have prowled El Centro a bit. In the daytime I feel completely safe. At night I am cautious
I guess it depends on your risk tolerance but I think the attitude you display is everything. Some would say why bother? And you're probably right, stay at Del Rey and you will not face these risks. But on the rare occassion that prowling El entro rewards you, it will be a far greater reward than anything you will ever find at Del Rey.
Your choice.
EF.
Please Help any info is welcomed. My guys and I (3-4) want to try Colombia for the first time. We are veterans of Sosua DR but want to try a different country. I'm the one pushing for this so I want to make sure we don't waist this trip. I have a few questions but again all info is welcomed. I have done some research.
1. Medellin (city) or Cartagena (beach) for late night action? All in all which is better? We like the daytime action at Sosua Beach but I hear Cartagena isn't that nice.
2. Is Oct a good time to go?
3. Best area to stay? My research said Poblado.
4. I guess we are looking for the Colombian version of Sosua DR. Is that unrealistic?
5. We are use to taking chicks with us out the club. Is that safe? Do they do that?
6. Prices we should expect for an 8, 9, 10.
Thanks for your help.
Nino Bravo
09-18-15, 16:04
They started leaving empty spots on my fuck calendar. So I filled in the available time slots with prepagos.
I guess I could start banging women in their thirties but I'm not old enough to go there yet."Fuck Calendar" that's funny. Is that available in an IPhone App? Well, I can see after 17 years banging regulars that maybe word got out that you weren't very serious with these girls, or father time caught up with you. Of course you did state that when you go out with your younger friends, the girls blow right past them and come to you, so don't understand why you'd have empty spots in your fuck calendar. Only know a couple of gringos in their 50's that have that type of game. Either way, glad to see you finally found your niche with the prepagos.
Hi,
Can someone tell me good dating sites in Colombia? I know only Colombiacupid but I don't want to pay to send girls messages. So any good suggestions?
Thanks
Mr Enternational
09-18-15, 18:41
4. I guess we are looking for the Colombian version of Sosua DR. Is that unrealistic?If you want Sosua then go there. Don't go to Hawaii looking for it to be like Miami just because they both have sand. Each place is different and has its own draw. Enjoy each for what they are in and of their own merits. Sometimes I feel like Thailand and other times I feel like Philippines. I would never go to one on the hopes that it would be like the other.
If you want Sosua then go there. Don't go to Hawaii looking for it to be like Miami just because they both have sand. Each place is different and has its own draw. Enjoy each for what they are in and of their own merits. Sometimes I feel like Thailand and other times I feel like Philippines. I would never go to one on the hopes that it would be like the other.Very true. Sosua is sort of a unique place. Small town with everything in walking distance, nice beach, lots of available chicas. Nothing like that I know of in Colombia.
You missed the point but thanks.
Davidb3069
09-18-15, 20:45
The two don't compare and are both very unique. Cartagena is also extremely hot and you might find yourself sleeping in the day and going out at night. Sosua is far far easier to get action day or night. Cartagena is difficult to land girls at the beach and you really have to meet them, get their phone and set a time and place. Sosua is also much cheaper.
Take a look at Santa Marta but you will have the same day issues as Cartagena and the city past Santa Marta can be more dangerous.
Please Help any info is welcomed. My guys and I (3-4) want to try Colombia for the first time. We are veterans of Sosua DR but want to try a different country. I'm the one pushing for this so I want to make sure we don't waist this trip. I have a few questions but again all info is welcomed. I have done some research.
1. Medellin (city) or Cartagena (beach) for late night action? All in all which is better? We like the daytime action at Sosua Beach but I hear Cartagena isn't that nice.
2. Is Oct a good time to go?
3. Best area to stay? My research said Poblado.
4. I guess we are looking for the Colombian version of Sosua DR. Is that unrealistic?
5. We are use to taking chicks with us out the club. Is that safe? Do they do that?
6. Prices we should expect for an 8, 9, 10.
Thanks for your help.
Cartagena is so hot you might forget all about sex and just hire a woman to lick the sweat off your balls.
http://qcostarica.com/american-found-dead-in-downtown-san-jose-hotel/
Stay at DelRey and you won't face these risks? Well, think twice. There are risks everywhere or just asked that dead guy.According to the article you posted they think this guy died of natural causes. So what risks are you referring to in this case in your post.
Abanderabas
09-19-15, 08:48
Hey guys!
This is my first time doing this trip or any for that matter, but I work hard. I deserve a break. Right?
I"ll be in Medellin for a weekend. What can I do? Where can I go? Anyone want to wingman for me? The first round is on me.
Most importantly- where are the girls?
Please Help any info is welcomed. My guys and I (3-4) want to try Colombia for the first time. We are veterans of Sosua DR but want to try a different country. I'm the one pushing for this so I want to make sure we don't waist this trip. I have a few questions but again all info is welcomed. I have done some research.
1. Medellin (city) or Cartagena (beach) for late night action? All in all which is better? We like the daytime action at Sosua Beach but I hear Cartagena isn't that nice.
2. Is Oct a good time to go?
3. Best area to stay? My research said Poblado.
4. I guess we are looking for the Colombian version of Sosua DR. Is that unrealistic?
5. We are use to taking chicks with us out the club. Is that safe? Do they do that?
6. Prices we should expect for an 8, 9, 10.
Thanks for your help.Medellin is great for beautiful and inexpensive women, nice weather, clean city. I would stay at the Mansion, otherwise you will have to do a lot of leg work to keep your fuck calendar full. Medellin has massive talent but it not a mongering destination like Sousa. Most independents are 150-200.000 COP, casa girls about 1/3 that.
Black Page
09-19-15, 17:37
I second the endorsement of Hotel / Motel Ibiza! Great place. Very discreet. Great price. Clean. Updated. Great Jacuzzi and shower. Only problem is that you might run into a problem in prime time (e. G. , Friday and Saturday night). I took a chica there last Friday night and got to the front gate only to be stuck beyond three other taxis and to be told by the guy at the gate that it would be a 50 minute wait.
My taxi driver actually took us to one or two more decent places with the same issue. We finally ended up in some lower quality place in Estrella (Motel Estrella, I think). Clean, cheap and safe enough, but no amenities. Just a place to fuck.Colombians take it seriously. Forget the crappy motels in USA or those expensive hotels in Europe which offer nothing. Anyone looking at the web site of Ibiza can understand they are one step ahead.
What's more, Medellin and all cities here has tons of love hotels, some basic some really luxury. Any taxi driver know a list.
For Medellin, if you are in Centro try Lafayette. Surprising, if one looks at the neighborough. (There are also small places for 10 k un rato, but it's for special cases LOL).
Black Page
09-19-15, 17:39
Very true. Sosua is sort of a unique place. Small town with everything in walking distance, nice beach, lots of available chicas. And tons of Americans, at least based on what I can undestand from ISG. A true Latin America experience.
Most importantly- where are the girls?
This is the best of the day
World Travel 69
09-19-15, 18:28
Maps and Lists are there.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists
Hey guys!
This is my first time doing this trip or any for that matter, but I work hard. I deserve a break. Right?
I"ll be in Medellin for a weekend. What can I do? Where can I go? Anyone want to wingman for me? The first round is on me.
Most importantly- where are the girls?
Parkinsons
09-19-15, 22:46
Colombians take it seriously. Forget the crappy motels in USA or those expensive hotels in Europe which offer nothing. Anyone looking at the web site of Ibiza can understand they are one step ahead.
Looks nice. But why is your discovery of this in Colombia such a huge revelation? Love motels exist for years in Japan, and cabanas are all over the DR. Don't know why this make Colombians so much more evolved.
And tons of Americans, at least based on what I can undestand from ISG. A true Latin America experience.
I was in Beijing earlier this year and saw tons of foreigners working in the city, and tourists at the Great Wall and the Forbidden City. Does that take away the "Chinese' ness" of the city?
But you may be right, Sosua was only primarily developed after DR accepted Jewish refugees to settle there during WWII. So yes it is a place unique to other Latin American destinations.
Davidb3069
09-20-15, 23:13
Good idea. I needed one in thailand and Cambodia too. Can't deal with the heat.
Cartagena is so hot you might forget all about sex and just hire a woman to lick the sweat off your balls.
Davidb3069
09-20-15, 23:18
I used these in San Jose, Costa Rica. Lots in Ecuador too. They are not a new concept.
Colombians take it seriously. Forget the crappy motels in USA or those expensive hotels in Europe which offer nothing. Anyone looking at the web site of Ibiza can understand they are one step ahead.
What's more, Medellin and all cities here has tons of love hotels, some basic some really luxury. Any taxi driver know a list.
For Medellin, if you are in Centro try Lafayette. Surprising, if one looks at the neighborough. (There are also small places for 10 k un rato, but it's for special cases LOL).
Davidb3069
09-20-15, 23:27
I went there last night about 11 pm and only maybe 25 girls but then again it was the valentine day of Colombia yesterday. Still 10 k entrance. Clean. Good mix of girls. Nobody was approaching me really. Left after a while. Friendly and helpful staff. Didn't drink so I don't know if the price of 16 k is correct.
Davidb3069
09-21-15, 02:08
I was heading out to this location but 3 or 4 taxi drivers refused to go there saying it's too dangerous. Not sure if things have worsened in the area or maybe some are open to more risk.
Black Page
09-21-15, 02:09
I used these in San Jose, Costa Rica. Lots in Ecuador too. They are not a new concept.If you really try Motel Ibiza and compare it with the best love motel you can find in, say, Guayaquil (where I spent MANY weeks along 4 years now), then you'll get what I am saying.
(another issue is to provide the content to the motel room: no way one can find in Guayaquil a girl like those hotties crowding Medellin).
Looks nice. But why is your discovery of this in Colombia such a huge revelation? Love motels exist for years in Japan, and cabanas are all over the DR. Don't know why this make Colombians so much more evolved.1) Because in my poor mongering life (see the list of reports in ISG) I never had the opportunity to see such luxury love motels for 20 USD, and worth 6 hours. Again: one has to go and see, before comparing.
2) Because in this Medellin thread there is a huge amount of posts, but not a single one about where to take the girl except the Mansion room or a rented apartment. Since upper class hotels never accept easily the introduction of "guests", there is a gap of information in this thread which I aimed to fill.
Therefore, the revelation is: Guys, if you have a girl and don't want / cannot take her to your hotel room or apartment, try something new for modest fee. Do yourself a favour, enjoy jakuzzi, see her dancing on the pole, try the love chair, see a porn movie with her, try special massage oils, try the sauna (even this, yes), call friends.
I never read all this in this thread. This is the Revelation.
So yes it is a place unique to other Latin American destinations.If I well understood, there is no other place in Latin America with so many gringoes concentrated in a small village, except maybe Panama City and its Venetto Casino.
Black Page
09-21-15, 02:16
I was heading out to this location but 3 or 4 taxi drivers refused to go there saying it's too dangerous. Not sure if things have worsened in the area or maybe some are open to more risk.It's more quiet than before. Conejitas is just ugly, but it's an experience to try, if one knows how to move around.
Respectfully (no irony), taxi driver may have assessed your look (evident foreigner? evident money availability?) and judged it more suitable to Fase II but not compatible with the Centro streets at night.
My advice to those who think "should I go or shouldn't I? Is it dangerous or is it not?": try to go to Centro at afternoon to visit the Museum. Then go around bars. Then wait 6-7-8 PM. When you think you are passing the threshold of risk, go back (by taxi).
If you feel there is no risk, but your Galaxy S6 is not in your pocket anymore, then you made a mistake. If your S6 is still in your hand, and you wonder why 10 teen guys are following you, then you made another mistake of evaluation.
PS: forget Conejitas and go to Barra Executiva not far away. Go there by taxi. Don't walk around if you don't know where to go. Much better.
Black Page
09-21-15, 02:23
I went to El Penol today. I spotted a group of 4-5 US sharp guys climbing with some effort the 660 stair steps, saying something like "in Afghanistan it was better", and led by one who knew the place and was guiding the others.
Was it a group of guys from ISG??
Davidb3069
09-21-15, 02:28
They flat out did not want to go for their safety the way I read it. I am obvious gringo but very fluent. I see no need to push my luck 1 day before I go. Fase II seems to be the best option but they are gouging. 180 k is not much but it is about the most expensive. The girls were hot though.
I wonder if the places in centro deserve a *at your own risk* label. I have been there in the day but that place opens at 6 pm.
It's more quiet than before. Conejitas is just ugly, but it's an experience to try, if one knows how to move around.
Respectfully (no irony), taxi driver may have assessed your look (evident foreigner? evident money availability?) and judged it more suitable to Fase II but not compatible with the Centro streets at night.
My advice to those who think "should I go or shouldn't I? Is it dangerous or is it not?": try to go to Centro at afternoon to visit the Museum. Then go around bars. Then wait 6-7-8 PM. When you think you are passing the threshold of risk, go back (by taxi).
If you feel there is no risk, but your Galaxy S6 is not in your pocket anymore, then you made a mistake. If your S6 is still in your hand, and you wonder why 10 teen guys are following you, then you made another mistake of evaluation.
PS: forget Conejitas and go to Barra Executiva not far away. Go there by taxi. Don't walk around if you don't know where to go. Much better.
Davidb3069
09-21-15, 02:47
There are a shitload of them here in medellin. I wonder if that affects pricing much.
Black Page
09-21-15, 03:36
They flat out did not want to go for their safety the way I read it. I am obvious gringo but very fluent. I see no need to push my luck 1 day before I go. Fase II seems to be the best option but they are gouging. 180 k is not much but it is about the most expensive. The girls were hot though.
I wonder if the places in centro deserve a *at your own risk* label. I have been there in the day but that place opens at 6 pm.That's 100% bullshit. Taxi drivers populate and live the streets of El Centro. Ask to go to "Barra Ejecutiva" or "Maracaibo". They will deposit you in front.
Don't go with watch, smartphone or valuables. Buy a cheap GSM phone with local SIM. Dress low style. Don't project an intimidated look. Show you know where you are going and where you want to go. Leave taking a taxi from the front.
You have NO danger inside those places (that's not a far west saloon), incl. Conejitas, while the problems happen outside. Get a beer from the first waiter (6 k). Avoid the first girls who will come to you. Blend, if you can.
Better than everything would be to go with someone the first time, but I went anywhere alone the first times and I enjoyed.
Davidb3069
09-21-15, 03:43
Probably like you I have been all over in close to 30 countries and places more dangerous but they were very adement. There was no way they were taking me. I know I am safe inside and I get less looks here than many places but sometimes the gut and common sense should rule.
That's 100% bullshit. Taxi drivers populate and live the streets of El Centro. Ask to go to "Barra Ejecutiva" or "Maracaibo". They will deposit you in front.
Don't go with watch, smartphone or valuables. Buy a cheap GSM phone with local SIM. Dress low style. Don't project an intimidated look. Show you know where you are going and where you want to go. Leave taking a taxi from the front.
You have NO danger inside those places (that's not a far west saloon), incl. Conejitas, while the problems happen outside. Get a beer from the first waiter (6 k). Avoid the first girls who will come to you. Blend, if you can.
Better than everything would be to go with someone the first time, but I went anywhere alone the first times and I enjoyed.
It has not been my experience that a taxi would refuse to take you to El Centro, Conejitas or what have you. It could be different very late at night. On the other hand, I really don't have the desire to spend time in Conejitas or Barra Ejecutiva. I do want to get Black Page to show me where the glue sniffers hang out. I have spent time in El Centro but the geography, including the street signs, are confusing.
Black Page
09-21-15, 04:02
It has not been my experience that a taxi would refuse to take you to El Centro, Conejitas or what have you. It could be different very late at night. On the other hand, I really don't have the desire to spend time in Conejitas or Barra Ejecutiva. I do want to get Black Page to show me where the glue sniffers hang out. I have spent time in El Centro but the geography, including the street signs, are confusing.LOL.
No glue at Conejitas neither at Barra Ejecutiva. Your ass will be not stuck at the chair. Some interesting girls can be found there or in other "Grill" of the area, but they are not certainly common. They are just strip bars, with rooms and tons of girls to choose.
Please note: if you see a light sign saying "Grill" in Colombia, there is no steak.
It has not been my experience that a taxi would refuse to take you to El Centro, Conejitas or what have you. It could be different very late at night. On the other hand, I really don't have the desire to spend time in Conejitas or Barra Ejecutiva. I do want to get Black Page to show me where the glue sniffers hang out. I have spent time in El Centro but the geography, including the street signs, are confusing.Try Bar Hilton a few blocks the wrong direction from Ejecutivo. I've been in there a few times and saw girls sniffing glue and / or snorting cola. Warning -- this area is rough.
Mr Enternational
09-21-15, 06:27
Conejitas is just ugly, but it's an experience to try, if one knows how to move around.
PS: forget Conejitas and go to Barra Executiva not far away. Go there by taxi. Don't walk around if you don't know where to go. Much better.WHAT! You are going to make me curse. Conejita's is my shit. BE is my back up shit. It's funny how BE costs more, but the rooms at Conejita's are way bigger and better with AC (maybe not AC) and hot water. Also the girls at BE are in heavy rotation. The girls at Conejita's don't get as many customers to go upstairs and fuck.
A taxi would probably think you are the biggest idiot hiring him to drive 2 blocks. Besides, how the one way streets are set up you would more than likely get there faster by walking.
It has not been my experience that a taxi would refuse to take you to El Centro, Conejitas or what have you. It could be different very late at night. On the other hand, I really don't have the desire to spend time in Conejitas or Barra Ejecutiva. I do want to get Black Page to show me where the glue sniffers hang out. I have spent time in El Centro but the geography, including the street signs, are confusing.So you want to see some glue sniffers and perhaps partake in them? Go to Botero Plaza and stand directly in front of the Museum Antoguia, then walk approximately 150 feet to your left and you will see a street and and on the left hand side a lot of glue sniffers hang out. You will also find them sitting on doorsteps, benches, etc. In and around this area and the Church about 300 feet to the left of the Museum. They typically have small black plastic bags that that they breathe the stuff in and out of. You really can't miss them as they look pretty dazed and confused. Have fun!
I don't get the attraction. I agree they are hard to miss in the streets surrounding the museum and most of the side streets in the Centro.
So you want to see some glue sniffers and perhaps partake in them? Go to Botero Plaza and stand directly in front of the Museum Antoguia, then walk approximately 150 feet to your left and you will see a street and and on the left hand side a lot of glue sniffers hang out. You will also find them sitting on doorsteps, benches, etc. In and around this area and the Church about 300 feet to the left of the Museum. They typically have small black plastic bags that that they breathe the stuff in and out of. You really can't miss them as they look pretty dazed and confused. Have fun!
Black Page
09-22-15, 01:50
I am so sorry I started a debate on this sad issue. I just wanted to help this new visitor to have a look at something different, without risking much.
So you want to see some glue sniffers and perhaps partake in them? Go to Botero Plaza and stand directly in front of the Museum Antoguia, then walk approximately 150 feet to your left and you will see a street and and on the left hand side a lot of glue sniffers hang out. You will also find them sitting on doorsteps, benches, etc. In and around this area and the Church about 300 feet to the left of the Museum. They typically have small black plastic bags that that they breathe the stuff in and out of. You really can't miss them as they look pretty dazed and confused. Have fun!Actually, if one really wants to see that, that is not the "best" place. That area is full of low-level SWs, but few of them are so badly addicted. The real zoo for young poor souls of both sexes is under the metro, from Plaza Botero to Prado Station, and the alleys at left and right. Don't go there at night, please.
The other area where glue-sniffing SWs hang out is near San Diego, on the other side of 43 A of the poor barrio Nikitao (West). I believe 50% of those girls will try to take money from your pockets, if you take them to a room. I befriended one of them, and it's really incredible the experience she's giving me.
Her body is perfect, in spite of the dumb face caused by sniffing glue. She's perfectly clean and smells good (not the mouth, because of what she sniffs). She brought new girls with us each time. She instructs them and even scold them with loud voice if they don't open ass enough or suck well. This always giving me sweet kisses and holding me tight as a boyfriend. She asked me if I was going to give her a gift for the Dia de Amor y Amistad. Unfortunately, that day I searched for her daytime in El Centro but I did not find her. The phone of her friend was ringing idle. As all drugs addicts, she swears she is not sniffing anymore, but she does.
WHAT! You are going to make me curse. Conejita's is my shit. BE is my back up shit. It's funny how BE costs more, but the rooms at Conejita's are way bigger and better with AC (maybe not AC) and hot water. Also the girls at BE are in heavy rotation. The girls at Conejita's don't get as many customers to go upstairs and fuck.
A taxi would probably think you are the biggest idiot hiring him to drive 2 blocks. Besides, how the one way streets are set up you would more than likely get there faster by walking.I probably made a mistake not visiting Conejitas this time. I really was too busy.
I agree is stupid to take a taxi for those two blocks, but I was giving directions to someone who, misled by some idiot taxi driver, did not go there to have a look yet and is still not oriented. We don't want to see him walking nightime there.
Besides that, I did not mean to say to go to BE FROM Conejitas by taxi. I just meant: go to BE by taxi (wherever you are).
P.S.:
Tonight, I am meeting again "my GF", a stunning strip dancer I met at a swinger club (waitress and dancer). She has long black hair like Pokahontas, firm body, long legs, and a smile to die for. I never saw such a sexy girl at Luna Lunera, to give some comparison term, but I've seen such types at La Isla (one year ago).
We go for romantic dinner, then dancing, then Ibiza.
She manages to make me believe her words, when she tells me she feels something for me. She is MORE than GFE. And a pornstar in bed. She's really dangerous.
I gave her 200 k the first time (and she said she would have not asked, imagine the type) so now every time I am stuck to that high rate.
MedellinGringo
09-22-15, 07:04
I don't get the attraction. I agree they are hard to miss in the streets surrounding the museum and most of the side streets in the Centro.Hmmm. Not interested in women that have had a chemical lobotomy. You are probably the type of guy that likes to talk to women also. LOL.
But on the up side the glue sniffers are highly susceptible to suggestion and their reasoning and negotiating skill are almost non existent.
Glue sniffers often get started when they are very young because they don't have enough to eat at home. Works great as an appetite suppressant.
Colombia Jake
09-22-15, 16:15
Another full weekend with all 4 horny guests had their girlfriend experience dates in tow for the Valentines Day weekend! Also took them on a night tour and made the usual stops to pick up party supplies and lots of strip clubs! The best value for your bucks are still in Centro and had lots of girls and fun energy! Papa Johns Pizza opens this week so things are going down hill fast but I'm still enjoying the ride! Here is a hottie we have ready to show you around and pound you!
Thanks,
Jake
Mr Enternational
09-22-15, 21:35
Had a great time. Took a chick with bolt-ons from Caracas upstairs. Biich what you doing behind the bar? The door to go upstairs is... Hey where the hell is the door? What kind of shit is this? Caleta (fake ass trap door) shorter than a midget behind the bar? Looking from the other side the old door had been bricked in. Does anyone with more experience than me know why the clubs are doing this? Not like the police or whoever will come in and say duhhhh.
Anyway my girl was a total GFE. By the way: before I take any girl I make sure that she will tell me that she loves me when we are fucking. No importa si no es la verdad. I already know that the software is going to post my pictures sideways since I am posting from my phone.
I don't get the attraction. I agree they are hard to miss in the streets surrounding the museum and most of the side streets in the Centro.Just consider that some of the sacaleros could be considered a "fatal attraction" which hopefully will help you understand the attraction some guys on this Forum have for them.
I have friend that I met while she was on the job, sweetheart fun active and out going girl. She asked me to see if any one was coming to Medellin since I no longer go and I said why not. She is nice and always had a good time with her GFE. She is skinny fixed boobs I think she's around 21-23. Been knowing her for two years now and she stepped out of the job for a good time. But obviously she's back in it now.
First Trip Mde Report. .
Day 1.
Flew to Ft Lauderdale via Jetblue. Landed at 430 pm, we could not leave the plane untill 630. Thunderstorms, No problem. Still close to 3 hrs to kill. Than 9 pm flight to medellin changed to 930 pm than 10 pm. We get on the plane. Medellin flight was canceled. . Did not know Medellin airport has a curfew for planes landing after midnight. So we had to stay in the airport untill 530 am because additional flight was added. So Friday was a was and Saturday I was like a zombie. Than it rained all day. Lot of no shows from facebook girls. I met one of vanne restrepo friends. Nice but real skinny. Only prob. She only do CBJ. Didn't like pics. Ill put a regular pic of her.
She's the one with white pants. Name is Tati.
Well day 2. I was in Itagui, I started around 8 pm. Every spot was closed.
So I we went to San diego. Place was empty. Prob 5 girls worling. And all on their cell phones. We are three club Colombia. Which I pay 2000 in a colmado. Freaking 30,000 pesos. Alright.
One girl comes up 100,000 for a lap dance. Not interested and leave.
Got to Parque llereras and its ok. But guys bothering the hell out of you to come in clubs.
Facebook flakes. Pucca txted her Saturday and I can't see you untill Monday. Monday stands me up because I have pool in my place but no jacuzzi. Oh well.
I don't know if you guys know Yerall giiraldoo. She wants to see me but wants 150,000 pesos and 40 k in cabs. I passed.
Another one called Nana hoyos. Same thing oh I need 200,000 pesos and 40 k in cabs. But no spanking and everything covered. Pass.
Thank god for badoo. One came over from itagui. Less hassel.
I'm going to try to watch the Peru vs Colombia game manana. I need a place to celebrate my bday on Wednesday. .
Day 3 . I went souvenir shopping in el centro. Jumped on the metro. I was pretty impressed how fast and clean it was. Did some shopping and my friends cousin showed some places for girls. Lot of the girls were a little creepy. Just did my shopping and bought liquor at the California store its retail prices not bad. Gallon of guarro 60,000 pesos.
I caught most of the game Colombia vs Peru. . only saw the first half. Than came back to the apartment. . Pucca came over. Took an HR to show up. Taxi got lost. She smoked her weed and drank some guarro. Great tits but her ass had marks, like she fell of her moto. Gave great bbj and hit it. For the price not bad.
After that just drank in my apartment with my boy.
Lot of facebook girls are txting but txr you at 630 pm than you forget than you get 1130 pm txt. I had no signal.
Day 4 ,I didn't know, Wednesday can be so dead here. I Hung out in Parque Llereas. Went to aclub Called Gustp. I have to get used to thr game here. Not like in the us, like nyc or Jersey you can take a little time checking what girl you want to talk to. I waited 5 or ten minutes, both girls were scooped up by some older colombian guys. Out side the club was either a whole bunch of trans vest and girls that were waiting for drunk guys.
I was real drunk made the drunk txt thing on fb. I invited over Valerie um. She came solo. I was still had back of mind. All the bad reviews.
Came over no problem, she drank couple beers and some guarro. She was mad I had no weed.
Went to the bedroom. Of course she does that lights off shit. Waits untill clothes off and says. I need 450,000 pesos. I told if you want that fet dressed and leave. Can't give you that. Il pay for you cab home, but that's it. Gave her 150,000 pesos. Ok lay and good head. No repeat.
Dodged a bullet.
Last couple days Thursday and Friday. I have been hanging in Parque lleras. . I met up with that girl Vanessa Guitierrez, she brought over two friends one is on facebook called Sharid Kemera. Pretty negra. But she tells my boy, I'm going to take all your money tonite. Not knowing hes colombian. So my sorry case of a wing man. Walks away and leaves. So vaneesas friends leave and I'm just with vanessa. She invites another girl she looks familar, than my memory from reading the posts, its that girl Sofia duarte. Nice tits and ass. But was acting like a pain in the ass, she was drinking alot. She tells me, hey take my friend vanessa back to your place, for 300,000 pesos. I played stupid I didn't hear.
Later on I asked vanessa what her friend meant by that. She goes all go back to your place for 300,000 peso.
My mistake to treat her like a regular girl. I never read a report of anyone sleeping with vanessa. She's cute but not 300,000 pesos prob for a nut. And already went thru 250,000 pesos in freaking old parr drinks.
So not that much past couple days. . couple badoo girls txting. But their response time is, worst than a blind ambulance driver.
Last day in mde guys. Got to go out great.
Hasta luego hermanos.
Thanks again for advice from Sbeach25.
Slamcity7777,mongtastik. And all the other guys I bothered or askd questions, becuase of reading and asking questions, I was prepared and had a great time.
We keep sharing infornation. We can have more fun.
Sorry to hear you didn't have such a great time. Where did you stay? I stayed at the mansion (a while ago) with Robert and it was a fantastic experience. If it's your first time, better to stay at place that is for mongers.
First Trip Mde Report. .
Day 1.
Flew to Ft Lauderdale via Jetblue. Landed at 430 pm, we could not leave the plane untill 630. Thunderstorms, No problem. Still close to 3 hrs to kill. Than 9 pm flight to medellin changed to 930 pm than 10 pm. We get on the plane. Medellin flight was canceled. . Did not know Medellin airport has a curfew for planes landing after midnight. So we had to stay in the airport untill 530 am because additional flight was added. So Friday was a was and Saturday I was like a zombie. Than it rained all day. Lot of no shows from facebook girls. I met one of vanne restrepo friends. Nice but real skinny. Only prob. She only do CBJ. Didn't like pics. Ill put a regular pic of her.
She's the one with white pants. Name is Tati.
Well day 2. I was in Itagui, I started around 8 pm. Every spot was closed.
So I we went to San diego. Place was empty. Prob 5 girls worling. And all on their cell phones. We are three club Colombia. Which I pay 2000 in a colmado. Freaking 30,000 pesos. Alright.
One girl comes up 100,000 for a lap dance. Not interested and leave.
Got to Parque llereras and its ok. But guys bothering the hell out of you to come in clubs.
Facebook flakes. Pucca txted her Saturday and I can't see you untill Monday. Monday stands me up because I have pool in my place but no jacuzzi. Oh well.
I don't know if you guys know Yerall giiraldoo. She wants to see me but wants 150,000 pesos and 40 k in cabs. I passed.
Another one called Nana hoyos. Same thing oh I need 200,000 pesos and 40 k in cabs. But no spanking and everything covered. Pass.
Thank god for badoo. One came over from itagui. Less hassel.
I'm going to try to watch the Peru vs Colombia game manana. I need a place to celebrate my bday on Wednesday. .
Day 3 . I went souvenir shopping in el centro. Jumped on the metro. I was pretty impressed how fast and clean it was. Did some shopping and my friends cousin showed some places for girls. Lot of the girls were a little creepy. Just did my shopping and bought liquor at the California store its retail prices not bad. Gallon of guarro 60,000 pesos.
I caught most of the game Colombia vs Peru. . only saw the first half. Than came back to the apartment. . Pucca came over. Took an HR to show up. Taxi got lost. She smoked her weed and drank some guarro. Great tits but her ass had marks, like she fell of her moto. Gave great bbj and hit it. For the price not bad.
After that just drank in my apartment with my boy.
Lot of facebook girls are txting but txr you at 630 pm than you forget than you get 1130 pm txt. I had no signal.
Day 4 ,I didn't know, Wednesday can be so dead here. I Hung out in Parque Llereas. Went to aclub Called Gustp. I have to get used to thr game here. Not like in the us, like nyc or Jersey you can take a little time checking what girl you want to talk to. I waited 5 or ten minutes, both girls were scooped up by some older colombian guys. Out side the club was either a whole bunch of trans vest and girls that were waiting for drunk guys.
I was real drunk made the drunk txt thing on fb. I invited over Valerie um. She came solo. I was still had back of mind. All the bad reviews.
Came over no problem, she drank couple beers and some guarro. She was mad I had no weed.
Went to the bedroom. Of course she does that lights off shit. Waits untill clothes off and says. I need 450,000 pesos. I told if you want that fet dressed and leave. Can't give you that. Il pay for you cab home, but that's it. Gave her 150,000 pesos. Ok lay and good head. No repeat.
Dodged a bullet.
Last couple days Thursday and Friday. I have been hanging in Parque lleras. . I met up with that girl Vanessa Guitierrez, she brought over two friends one is on facebook called Sharid Kemera. Pretty negra. But she tells my boy, I'm going to take all your money tonite. Not knowing hes colombian. So my sorry case of a wing man. Walks away and leaves. So vaneesas friends leave and I'm just with vanessa. She invites another girl she looks familar, than my memory from reading the posts, its that girl Sofia duarte. Nice tits and ass. But was acting like a pain in the ass, she was drinking alot. She tells me, hey take my friend vanessa back to your place, for 300,000 pesos. I played stupid I didn't hear.
Later on I asked vanessa what her friend meant by that. She goes all go back to your place for 300,000 peso.
My mistake to treat her like a regular girl. I never read a report of anyone sleeping with vanessa. She's cute but not 300,000 pesos prob for a nut. And already went thru 250,000 pesos in freaking old parr drinks.
So not that much past couple days. . couple badoo girls txting. But their response time is, worst than a blind ambulance driver.
Last day in mde guys. Got to go out great.
Hasta luego hermanos.
Thanks again for advice from Sbeach25.
Slamcity7777,mongtastik. And all the other guys I bothered or askd questions, becuase of reading and asking questions, I was prepared and had a great time.
We keep sharing infornation. We can have more fun.
Had a great time. Took a chick with bolt-ons from Caracas upstairs. Biich what you doing behind the bar? The door to go upstairs is... Hey where the hell is the door? What kind of shit is this? Caleta (fake ass trap door) shorter than a midget behind the bar? Looking from the other side the old door had been bricked in. Does anyone with more experience than me know why the clubs are doing this? Not like the police or whoever will come in and say duhhhh.
Anyway my girl was a total GFE. By the way: before I take any girl I make sure that she will tell me that she loves me when we are fucking. No importa si no es la verdad. I already know that the software is going to post my pictures sideways since I am posting from my phone.You need to start taking your photo's sideways dammit, and what's with the girls having to tell you they love you while fucking?
Sorry to hear you didn't have such a great time. Where did you stay? I stayed at the mansion (a while ago) with Robert and it was a fantastic experience. If it's your first time, better to stay at place that is for mongers.I stayed at an airnb in poblado 8 dys for $450 . That's why I stood their.
Black Page
09-23-15, 05:10
Had a great time. Took a chick with bolt-ons from Caracas upstairs. Biich what you doing behind the bar? The door to go upstairs is... Hey where the hell is the door? What kind of shit is this? Caleta (fake ass trap door) shorter than a midget behind the bar? Looking from the other side the old door had been bricked in. Does anyone with more experience than me know why the clubs are doing this? Not like the police or whoever will come in and say duhhhh.
Anyway my girl was a total GFE. By the way: before I take any girl I make sure that she will tell me that she loves me when we are fucking. No importa si no es la verdad. I already know that the software is going to post my pictures sideways since I am posting from my phone.So good to see that someone shows what a fine girl can be met in Conejitas. So, how did you go there? By bus because no taxi driver accepted to take the risk to approach it?
Black Page
09-23-15, 05:14
Day 4 ,I didn't know, Wednesday can be so dead here. I Hung out in Parque Llereas.So you really HUNG, maybe well hung, even hung out at Parque Lleras?
Sometimes the damn automatic corrector of ISG makes master pieces.
Black Page
09-23-15, 05:43
So, I just left Medellin. What a sadness.
I had some great time, but of course not everything was perfect (perfect time at 99% time happens to me only in Batam, Indonesia, see my long reports there http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2020-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=1753216&viewfull=1#post1753216).
Not to forget I was there to work, so I had limited time and energy to spend on the Hobby.
To summarize, in 2 weeks I focused on:
1) the glue sniffer girl.
2) the dancer.
3) etc.
1) GLUE SNIFFER
Here and there, I gave already some hints in previous reports. I add something here.
I met her where those poor souls gather at late night, near San Diego, on the other side of Cr. 43 A respect to the poor barrio Nikitao (that is, West). That is not a place where most taxi drivers would accept to take you. Dilapidated and lonely. There are some passable girls too, anyway, with some zombies as well.
I believe 50% of those girls will try to take money from your pockets, if you take them to a room. I remember one night 2 years ago, when I was sitting behind a taxi and two of them tried to take out money from my wallet inside my pocket.
Well, on my first visit this time, I met this kind girl and I let her jump on the taxi immediately, while the crowd was dangerously beginning to approach from both sides. I had the feeling she was honest and reliable.
So I befriended her. I met her 4 or 5 nights. It's really incredible the experience she was giving me.
Her body is perfect, in spite of the dumb face caused by sniffing glue. She's perfectly clean and smells good (not the mouth, because of what she sniffs). Every time, she brought a new girl on the taxi with us. I would be extremely prudent before taking someone there on the taxi, but she made the selection for me and it was always super.
She also played lesbo, doing virtually anything and pushing the other to behave accordingly. She instructed them and even scolded them with loud voice if they didn't open ass enough or sucked well. This always giving me sweet kisses and holding me tight as a boyfriend.
We agreed 20k the first time for each girl, but I always gave 40k to the otherr and 50k to her. Who else ever treated me so well in Medellin? Certainly not the prepagos who work at Luna Lunera.
Last Friday, she asked me if I was going to give her a gift for the DIA de Amor why Amistad. I felt bad and I tried to do it, believe it or not. Unfortunately, that day I searched for her daytime in El Centro but I did not find her. The phone of her friend was ringing idle. As all drugs addicts, she swears she is not sniffing anymore, but she does.
A member wrote me a PM asking if I have photos or WhatsApp. I see a huge mistake of evaluation:
- those girls do not have phone (if they have, it's an old GSM).
- do not have much except the clothes they wear.
- if you take a smartphone with you when you go to those places, you're mad.
Said this, I remember once she was with her friend waiting me to cum, on their knees on floor, cheek to cheek and sticking tongues out, winking at me and saying YES emphatically after I asked "can I take photos?" (I did not have any photocamera, of course).
The last time I met her, I went to San Diego with one of my trusted taxi drivers. She was not there, but I spotted one of her friends, who told me she was sleeping at Nikitao and she could go there to call her.
I gave her 2 k tip and I said "ok I come back in 10 minutes". Then we left, sure that it was just to get a tip. Well, the driver had the idea: "let's go back to see". Incredible: we saw her RUNNING climbing the street to meet the deadline of 10 minutes.
After 2 rounds of the area (which is very bad, by the way), we saw the two girls walking fast downhill. So happy! She told me "Hey see I am still wearing pijama!"
PS:
Someone might wonder where I took those girls. Not certainly at Ibiza. There are some little crappy hotels at El Prado, who accept dubious guests and ask no questions. La pieza vale 26 for 3 persons (I remember once I paid 5k for two, but it was years ago).)
The area at 2am is so lonely and bad that the taxi does not want to stay to wait. I have to call him back. Said this, once you establish some relation with the doorman, the two places I went are safe, so to speak. They even give you soap and condoms. How I dared to enter the places the first time? Sure because recommended by the girls (you know what is a "web of trust"?).
Black Page
09-23-15, 06:09
To summarize, in 2 weeks I focused on:
1) the glue sniffer girl.
2) the dancer.
3) etc.
2) THE DANCER
My other side of these 2 weeks in Medellin was totally opposite. I met this girl in a club (yes I never go to casas daytime but I am extremely active at night, always exploring off the borders).
She knows how to dance on the pole. She has a stunning smile with white teeth you could see a distance away at night. She has long black hair, a firm body, long legs, and the smile is to die for. I never saw such a sexy girl at Luna Lunera, to give some comparison term, but I've seen such types at La Isla (one year ago).
She started to tell me sweet love words since the first time, like I was someone special for her. Well, I cannot believe that, but then she should make money as TV actress, rather than waitress at club at night.
Anyway, she manages to make me believe her words, when she tells me she feels something for me. She is MORE than GFE. And a pornstar in bed. She's really dangerous.
Every time, I took her to dinner, then to drink and dance, then to Ibiza.
Two times, she brought a friend because I told her that I wanted to try trio. Needless to say, the friend was not more than a standard prepago, yet sexy. It was a long time I dreamed to go around LLeras with two sexy girls in high heels and short skirt at my side.
I gave her 200 k the first time (and she said she would have not asked, imagine the type) so then every time I was stuck to that high rate. In total, I gave her 800k in 7-8 days. She has enough for her and little daughter for a while, right?
I have taken some photos, but I don't want to post anything where she could be recognized.
Mr Enternational
09-23-15, 06:41
So good to see that someone shows what a fine girl can be met in Conejitas. So, how did you go there? By bus because no taxi driver accepted to take the risk to approach it?LOL. I walked. My $9 hotel is right across from it. Also there are 2 gringos who don't look nothing near Colombian who actually live in the hotel. I'm sure they probably get an even better deal for a long term stay. Figure $7/ day for 30 days a month, $210 they are making out like bandits. If I remember correctly they are from Boston. I think my friend was telling me the one guy buys season tickets for sports in the USA and resells them to make his money. Don't know if I mentioned the girl at Conejitas was 60 k.
BlueChange
09-23-15, 09:52
Another full weekend with all 4 horny guests had their girlfriend experience dates in tow for the Valentines Day weekend! Also took them on a night tour and made the usual stops to pick up party supplies and lots of strip clubs! The best value for your bucks are still in Centro and had lots of girls and fun energy! Papa Johns Pizza opens this week so things are going down hill fast but I'm still enjoying the ride! Here is a hottie we have ready to show you around and pound you!
Thanks,
JakeFUCK PAPA JOHNS OH NO!
That place is the decline of western civilization. It's like when they opened an IHOP in Manhattan. Game over! At least the dollar is strong.
BlueChange
09-23-15, 10:17
Unless you like Robots with GIANT see section scars they stay away!!
http://masajistaspaisas.com/agatha-apartamento-poblado-prepagos-96345.html
I mentioned it in an old review. My friend went to go see her. He text me like 'WTF".
Yeah so you have been warned. This chick is a super mechiancail chick that just tries to get you to cum quick and leave. They photoshop her belly pretty good thiough. There is a GIANT 9 in scar on her belly and she kisses you only on the check and forehead like you are some "best friend" type shit. GTFO NEXTTTT!!
So you really HUNG, maybe well hung, even hung out at Parque Lleras?
Sometimes the damn automatic corrector of ISG makes master pieces.Yea autocorrect sucks alot. But yea had a good time hanging out in medelllin. Will come back again. Just got to come back solo.
LOL. I walked. My $9 hotel is right across from it. Also there are 2 gringos who don't look nothing near Colombian who actually live in the hotel. I'm sure they probably get an even better deal for a long term stay. Figure $7/ day for 30 days a month, $210 they are making out like bandits. If I remember correctly they are from Boston. I think my friend was telling me the one guy buys season tickets for sports in the USA and resells them to make his money. Don't know if I mentioned the girl at Conejitas was 60 k.I got a daily rate of 25,000 Pesos a day or about $ 8 day at the Premier Plaza Hotel between the Museum and the Church for over a months stay. The police use it as a substation and I am a tourist attraction to them at times bringing girls to my room. I have a quiet room on the third floor with a stereo sound system, TV, and even a shower head on the shower. This has been a great addition since the last time I was there! It's my home away from home when I'm not in my apartment in Poblado! It's amazing how cheap it is in El Centro, you can easily get by on approximately $ 45 a day there which would include three street girls at an average of 25,000 Pesos each, a clean and quiet hotel room at 30,000 Pesos, three meals a day at 20,000 Pesos (there are vendors on the street that sell full plates of food for 3,000 Pesos so this estimate is on the high side), and a six pack of beer at 12,000 Pesos for a total of less than $ 50. With a budget of $ 50 a day you even can have some extra spending money to boot!
To summarize, in 2 weeks I focused on:
1) the glue sniffer girl.
2) the dancer.
3) etc.
2) THE DANCER.So if upon your next return to Medellin you could only be with one girl, which one would you choose, the glue sniffer or the dancer?
Mr Enternational
09-23-15, 15:25
You need to start taking your photo's sideways dammit, and what's with the girls having to tell you they love you while fucking?LOL. That is my new thing Surf. And I have noticed that when they do say it they start fucking like champs. It is like it hypnotizes them. It's usually more than I bargained for.
Havana, you better leave that rip-off freelance shit alone and go get some for sure cheap pussy in the casas and the clubs. Go in and buy a bottle and drink with the girl you like. It's more fun and cheaper if you have friends with you. Then if you want to fuck the girl just pay the 60 k to go upstairs. Hell one night I didn't fuck the girl. I just stayed there having fun and drinking and talking shit for about 3 hours. I was going to give her 50 k for her time. But the other member (he must be super busy because he usually posts reports fast) told his girl he only had 20 k. His girl was very happy. So then I gave my girl 20 k too and she was happy. Saved me 30 k! (Out of the 60 k that I give the Conejitas girl for a session they get 45 k).
Then there are the other local casas (not the New Life style but the ones you go in and it is an actual house that they turned into a bar. Local guys go there to relax when they get off work) where we like to go in and sit out on the balcony to drink and fuck with the girls then take one to the room if you want, 40 k or whatever you negotiate. These places may not be up to some guys' standards though. I'm just there to have a good time not to be in a quest to fuck some model chick. I have had enough of those in my day.
In the last episode I was dealing with one who was untamed. I finally decided to take her in the room anyway. It was only 40 k. I pulled the love talk on her. Made her tell me she loved me and all. When we got back to the common room one of my buddies was tickled. He said before you went in the room she was all wild. Now she is at your feet like a curled up kitten. That's what sweet daddy do.
Then another girl tried to get me to take her. Said she wanted 60 k. I said bullshit I just gave this girl 40 k and she has milk in her titties. So I got fed and fucked for 40 k. Everybody was dying laughing. That is where speaking Spanish comes in handy. I can fuck chicks anywhere so that is the least of my worries. I do this shit just to socialize with friends and family and hang out and have a good time. Afterall, the only pussy thay really matters is your first piece and your last piece. Most of the shit in between you probably won't remember anyway.
Mr Enternational
09-23-15, 15:42
It's amazing how cheap it is in El Centro, you can easily get by on approximately $ 45 a day there which would include three street girls at an average of 25,000 Pesos eachAnd the chick had the nerve to ask Havana for 400 k. Shit he can get 16 centro street girls for that kind of money. Even 2 Fase 2 girls with change left. But the only reason she is asking is because somebody is paying it.
After all, the only pussy that really matters is your first piece and your last piece. Most of the shit in between you probably won't remember anyway.Laughed my fucking ass off over that one! A mí no me gustan las lecheras pero por seguro es una ganga comer y coger en el mismo lugar al mismo tiempo.
Mr Enternational
09-23-15, 17:45
So, I just left Medellin. What a sadness.
I had some great time, but of course not everything was perfect (perfect time at 99% time happens to me only in Batam, IndonesiaI definitely have to read that report. When I was there all the taxi driver took us to were casas that were run by the pimps. And nobody wanted to fuck us because they thought our dicks would be too big.
I believe 50% of those girls will try to take money from your pockets, if you take them to a room. I remember one night 2 years ago, when I was sitting behind a taxi and two of them tried to take out money from my wallet inside my pocket.Why is this? How expensive could a bag of glue be?
She instructed them and even scolded them with loud voice if they didn't open ass enough or sucked well.If this ever happens again please make a video for me to see. I bet that shit was hilarious.
And the chick had the nerve to ask Havana for 400 k. Shit he can get 16 centro street girls for that kind of money. Even 2 Fase 2 girls with change left. But the only reason she is asking is because somebody is paying it.Yea the best part she was asking for 450,000 pesos with my dick in her hand. I said 150,000 pesos or leave. Yea my wingman didn't want to go to el centro. Next trip I got to visit. You learn with experiences. Most of it was me being comfortable in the apartment and ordering facebook take out.
But its alot less hustle than dr. That's for sure. Money goes along way.
again thanks for the advice...
I definitely have to read that report. When I was there all the taxi driver took us to were casas that were run by the pimps. And nobody wanted to fuck us because they thought our dicks would be too big.Why is this? How expensive could a bag of glue be?If this ever happens again please make a video for me to see. I bet that shit was hilarious.So you want to see a video of how wide a chica can open her ass? I'll pass on that one!
This is our version of the "fuck, marry, or kill" game. LOL!
So if upon your next return to Medellin you could only be with one girl, which one would you choose, the glue sniffer or the dancer?
Black Page
09-24-15, 01:56
So you want to see a video of how wide a chica can open her ass? I'll pass on that one!Sorry if we hurted your sensitivity.
I definitely have to read that report. When I was there all the taxi driver took us to were casas that were run by the pimps. And nobody wanted to fuck us because they thought our dicks would be too big.
When you were where?? In Batam or broadly speaking in Indonesia?
Batam is not for everyone. It took me a while to understand how to move around, but now I feel like at home. And I take almost exclusively FLs.
If this ever happens again please make a video for me to see. I bet that shit was hilarious.
No way I bring a smartphone with me if I go to those places.
So if upon your next return to Medellin you could only be with one girl, which one would you choose, the glue sniffer or the dancer?
Only one you say? Then undoubtedly a third one, but I will look for the sniffer to give her a gift. Trust me, I like her and she is a honey.
How expensive could a bag of glue be?A bag of glue is 500 pesos.
I went to the San Diego area today after reading the report of Black Page, it took me a while to find the spot as I was looking around Carrera 43 b with Calle 33 like Black Page said, but I think he was mistaken because where I found the girls and girls was Carrera 50 with Calle 39 (and a 1 block radius of there-of). I had to have a bum show me where it is for a 3 mil tip as I would have never found it myself. Its just a few blocks from the metro station Exposiciones but not really near the actual shopping center.
So what I saw was a dimly lit area with a lot of parked trucks on the street and a few auto mechanic shops some of which were still open at around 8-9 pm. There were carts on the corners selling cigs and coffee and usual stuff.
I felt pretty safe walking around alone, it was mostly working folk sitting around drinking beer and coffee, with a few girls walking the streets, the younger ones huffing glue, the older ones smoking marijuana. I did not see anyone that looked threatening to me, 2 younger male glue sniffers glanced at me but I stared them down and they looked away and did not look again.
The prices are 20-30 mil but the problem is that there are no hotels nearby, just a crack house on the corner that rents a room for 12 mil but its disgusting just a room with a bed no bathroom no towel no nothing. Pretty sure none of you guys would dare step foot in a place like that but I felt adventurous so I went in, there was no safety issues but the place was the worst kind of crack house and they were smoking it right outside the door to the 1 single room.
Maybe it gets more crowded later in the night but I did not stick around past 9 pm as I did not see much action.
Sorry if we hurted your sensitivity.
Only one you say? Then undoubtedly a third one, but I will look for the sniffer to give her a gift. Trust me, I like her and she is a honey.Which one is it? Do you have a photo that you can share? PM me the photo if you don't want to post on the board.
Black Page
09-24-15, 07:09
Which one is it? Do you have a photo that you can share? PM me the photo if you don't want to post on the board.I wonder if you read my reports or not. Did you?
I don't have any expensive phone with me when I go out at night. No photos.
A bag of glue is 500 pesos.
I went to the San Diego area today after reading the report of Black Page, it took me a while to find the spot as I was looking around Carrera 43 b with Calle 33 like Black Page said,Excuse me?? When did I say that? Please don't spread wrong information claiming it's mine.
but I think he was mistaken because where I found the girls and girls was Carrera 50 with Calle 39 (and a 1 block radius of there-of).Not exactly, but yes 1-2 blocks away. And yes, I know the whole area very well.
But I have some bad news for you. Exactly at the cross Cr. 50 with CL. 39 there is a group every night, but they are all maricas. Try if you don't believe me.
I had to have a bum show me where it is for a 3 mil tip as I would have never found it myself. Its just a few blocks from the metro station Exposiciones but not really near the actual shopping center.
So what I saw was a dimly lit area with a lot of parked trucks on the street and a few auto mechanic shops some of which were still open at around 8-9 pm. There were carts on the corners selling cigs and coffee and usual stuff.
I felt pretty safe walking around alone, it was mostly working folk sitting around drinking beer and coffee, with a few girls walking the streets, the younger ones huffing glue, the older ones smoking marijuana. I did not see anyone that looked threatening to me, 2 younger male glue sniffers glanced at me but I stared them down and they looked away and did not look again.
The prices are 20-30 mil but the problem is that there are no hotels nearby, just a crack house on the corner that rents a room for 12 mil but its disgusting just a room with a bed no bathroom no towel no nothing. Pretty sure none of you guys would dare step foot in a place like that but I felt adventurous so I went in, there was no safety issues but the place was the worst kind of crack house and they were smoking it right outside the door to the 1 single room.
Maybe it gets more crowded later in the night but I did not stick around past 9 pm as I did not see much action.I go there after 1 am. What do you expect to see at 9 pm?? And you want to go there on foot? You crazy or what?
What I wrote is NOT to encourage people to go to wrong places just to look around.
I go there with my trusted taxi drivers. We cruise the area for 1 hour or so, till I find what I like (seldom). One year ago I got a BJ in the back seat, while he was watching and commenting, driving along the autopista. I can get so pervy...
Black Page
09-24-15, 07:52
Unless you like Robots with GIANT see section scars they stay away!!
http://masajistaspaisas.com/agatha-apartamento-poblado-prepagos-96345.html
(...)
Yeah so you have been warned. This chick is a super mechiancail chick that just tries to get you to cum quick and leave. Jeez!! With the huge supply of girls available in streets, in bars, in night clubs, in discos, for prices ranging from 20 k to 400 k, of any shape, age and size, and from ugly ones to supermodels, I never understood how one could spend time to contact girls via Facebook in advance, or from web sites like in this case..
Disappointment is likely and well deserved!
Member #4348
09-24-15, 21:11
I have friend that I met while she was on the job, sweetheart fun active and out going girl. She asked me to see if any one was coming to Medellin since I no longer go and I said why not. She is nice and always had a good time with her GFE. She is skinny fixed boobs I think she's around 21-23. Been knowing her for two years now and she stepped out of the job for a good time. But obviously she's back in it now.I will be at the Mansion from Oct. 21-25.
I go there after 1 am. What do you expect to see at 9 pm?? And you want to go there on foot? You crazy or what?
What I wrote is NOT to encourage people to go to wrong places just to look around.
I go there with my trusted taxi drivers. We cruise the area for 1 hour or so, till I find what I like (seldom). One year ago I got a BJ in the back seat, while he was watching and commenting, driving along the autopista. I can get so pervy...Cruising around after one in the morning in the land of sacaleros, getting a blow-job in the backseat of a taxi with the driver commenting. Don't take this as being argumentative or personal, but I think your in a league of your own here.
Black Page
09-25-15, 01:20
Cruising around after one in the morning in the land of sacaleros, getting a blow-job in the backseat of a taxi with the driver commenting. Don't take this as being argumentative or personal, but I think your in a league of your own here.Don't worry my friend. You are not argumentative at all.
If you meet me, you'll discover I am a quiet person with kind attitude and style, I can dress up well, I have humour, and I am always a gentleman with ladies. Yes, I love upper-class ladies and I am delighted especially to enjoy conversation on culture, science, and literature with a girl, if I have the chance to be with a university student. I have post-degree education, by the way.
On purpose, I posted two opposite reports here, one about the "sniffer", the other about the "dancer". Two such distant worlds. I don't want people thinks I am a sex maniac with zombie eyes.
If you want to read a totally different series of reports, please look at my last series from Batam (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2020-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=1753216&viewfull=1#post1753216) It even includes a summary count table of girls and features several odd encounters with sweet young girls.
So what? Basically, I like to be provocative and turn on the temperature of the forum by adding some unusual stories, call it "pepper" (Hey! All real!) Otherwise here it tends to be boring. Don't you agree here 99% of posts are always about the same? I just add some hot pepper to make the dish more tasty.
Yes, I like to do all that naughty things too, but I am not Mister Jeckill and Dr. Hide. I am, let's say, just open-minded and I like to explore all territories, without prejudice. Needless to say, I do not take drugs (I smoked weed 3-4 times in my life) and I drink much less than then average contributor here (never enough to get drunk).
Exploring the land of glue sniffers? That's questionable I know, but I would have not met such a lovely girl if I would have not done that. So, sometimes we need to explore beyond borders to find new things. Would you believe me that the emotion to get a "friend" in that no one land was priceless for me? Besides the sex experience, the social and human experience is incredible.
Do I put myself in danger? Not really. I don't go walking where it's too risky, I keep all my senses alerted, I am extremely careful in keeping distance with people looking alarming, I dress down and I do not bring phone or watch with me, when I go in an area which could be problematic.
For the oldest contributors of this forum, my model is Tungurahua and his reports from Quito and Ecuador, now dated almost 10 years ago. Anybody remembers his reports from Quito? He was my mith, when I was a new member of ISG, master of a way to explore new lands where others don't go but always keeping safe.
BJ on the back seat of the taxi? I don't think it's such a bad thing! Didn't you ever go to a swinger club? Or had a 3some?
The name of the taxi driver was Diego. Unfortunately, he changed phone number so I could not contact him this time. He was a big black guy, with sport sleeveless shirt and gold chain in hiphop style, who immediately got my sympathy when I took his taxi from Conejtas the first time. We cruised a lot Medellin at night (30 k per hour). He brought me to see La Manzana. I can tell more about him. Once, he went to pick up her "novia", o "amiga", from a bar in El Centro, and we went all 3 looking for some new girls. She was sitting in front, and when we picked up a girl she was laughing loud naming his friend "atrevido! Pervertido! Mira lo tiene duro!" and other funny things. I have a lot of funny memories from Medellin.
PS: I am just arrived to CTG. Totally different playground here. I will take out the good shirts from my luggage and I will look for sexy tall girls dressed up at best. I hope to have good luck and to not waste too much money for those who do not deserve it.
Can anyone tell me how the Prado Centro neighborhood is? Are there any P4P places close to that area, if so what type of P4P scene is there Casa, strip club, any streetwalkers?
How is the quality of the girls in that area? Any hotel recommendation in that neighborhood would be awesome also thanks.
PS: I am just arrived to CTG. Totally different playground here. I will take out the good shirts from my luggage and I will look for sexy tall girls dressed up at best. I hope to have good luck and to not waste too much money for those who do not deserve it.Tell us what you find there. I would like to know more about CTG, the venues, LDV. Thanks!
Black Page
09-25-15, 18:03
Tell us what you find there. I would like to know more about CTG, the venues, LDV. Thanks!I am afraid but I have to disappoint you. Everything has been said already there. RTFF (sorry, but that's our motto). There is even a map with casas (totally unavailable when I visited the place for the first time 8 years ago).
I never go to casas, except a semi-clandestine one after BazurtoA which I know since 6 years ago (the lady was used to bring me naif new girls from barrios, but last times she disappointed me).
And don't expect reports from me in CTG about dark alleys. In CTG I go upscale. The variety of girls is wide and they dress up to flash our attention. I go little to LDV, more around Plaza del Reloj (some jewels there come and go sometimes), more in Opera and Espace (the clubs open starting at 3 am, which replaced our mithical Elektra. RIP!)
PS: Just to not leave you with curiosity. My night yesterday in CTG: I went to dinner, then to Reloy. I spotted a young girl looking nearly u-age (relax: 22 on the cedula), mulata from Medellin (verified: she speaks with paisa accent), said 1 week in CTG.
When she asked 150k I grabbed her hand without hesitation (200-250 is the norm here, and for sleazy ultra-pros) and I took her to Mr. Babilla to dance and drink till 3am. Sleep with me, wanted light off, very shy. Even almost unable to give proper BJ. I am falling in love. I will invite her out also tonight or tomorrow for dinner.
'My model is Tungurahua and his reports from Quito and Ecuador'.
The man was like a god. I never met him, but I could never I have perfected my Dickhead persona without him. Wherever he may be, I raise a toast in his honor.
Black Page
09-26-15, 11:17
'My model is Tungurahua and his reports from Quito and Ecuador'.
The man was like a god. I never met him, but I could never I have perfected my Dickhead persona without him. Wherever he may be, I raise a toast in his honor.Last news I know, from his latest posts on ISG, not so long time ago, is that he was raiding Indonesia his style, that is on motorbike, no plans, etc.
Indonesia is not dangerous as Latin America can be, but he has discovered how Indo girls can be rewarding. I see me and you share the same ISG background and idol.
World Travel 69
09-26-15, 15:40
I would have been lost without his lists.
He gave my permission to update his lists.
'My model is Tungurahua and his reports from Quito and Ecuador'.
The man was like a god. I never met him, but I could never I have perfected my Dickhead persona without him. Wherever he may be, I raise a toast in his honor.
Can anyone tell me how the Prado Centro neighborhood is? Are there any P4P places close to that area, if so what type of P4P scene is there Casa, strip club, any streetwalkers?
How is the quality of the girls in that area? Any hotel recommendation in that neighborhood would be awesome also thanks.All the information you should need can be found here (Medellin Lists): http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists.
Many people, both locals and tourists, have told me the area around the Prado metro station is not safe. I have walked around the Parque Berrio and San Antonio stations during the daytime without any problem. There are many casas within walking distance of the Parque Berrio station.
ChrisFront
09-26-15, 16:45
Hola my fellow gents!
I'm trying to get the low down of the best options / advice for a group of Non-Spanish speaking travelers to Medellin. We'll be staying about 1 mile from Parque Llera.
We are about 10 British guys, looking to party for a weekend. Given limited Spanish abilities, and warnings about just trying to mingle like we would in streets of England. What is your advice? All of us are single and are headed to Colombia for pretty much nothing but a fuckfest to unwind from the rainy weather out here.
Should we hire a local guide? Any recommendations?
Can we bring women back to our place for overnights / sex parties?
Or better to go to local parlors like San Diego or Fase II?
Appreciate the advice.
James Dandy
09-26-15, 20:45
http://www.minuto30.com/fotos-ofrecen-recompensa-por-homicidas-de-extranjero-que-fue-atacado-en-el-poblado/391545/
Just a hunch, but this sounds like an inside job to me. I have read about taxis working with banditos in neighboring Ecuador a lot, and the way this went down sounds a lot like it. The taxi driver signals when he has a big fish, in this case a guy flashing jewelry, and his motorcycle buddies pull up and rob the target.
On a side note, I was in that area around midnight last night and didn't notice anything in particular, so they must have cleaned up the scene quickly.
This is just a block away from the Mansion hotel. Sad and scary.
http://www.minuto30.com/fotos-ofrecen-recompensa-por-homicidas-de-extranjero-que-fue-atacado-en-el-poblado/391545/
Just a hunch, but this sounds like an inside job to me. I have read about taxis working with banditos in neighboring Ecuador a lot, and the way this went down sounds a lot like it. The taxi driver signals when he has a big fish, in this case a guy flashing jewelry, and his motorcycle buddies pull up and rob the target.
On a side note, I was in that area around midnight last night and didn't notice anything in particular, so they must have cleaned up the scene quickly.This put my Medellin vacay on hold, I know shit can happen anywhere but Poblado doesn't sound that safe.
Mr Enternational
09-26-15, 23:18
This is just a block away from the Mansion hotel. Sad and scary.But see that is the paradox. Everyone knows the tourists are comfortable hanging around Poblado, so they are there ready to rip you off. Nobody is trying to rip you off in Centro because it is not known for many foreigners. And when they do see one they figure if you are there you are more streetwise than the average gringo. Just because you "feel" safe does not mean that you really are. Likewise, in a place that you do not think is safe more than likely nothing will happen to you. Ex Santa Fe in Bogota and Vila Mimosa in Rio.
Keep your wits about you at all times and be aware of your surroundings. Both people and places. If something seems out of place be careful. Out of place means someone approaching you at an unusual angle or people staring. Be safe my friends.
But see that is the paradox. Everyone knows the tourists are comfortable hanging around Poblado, so they are there ready to rip you off. Nobody is trying to rip you off in Centro because it is not known for many foreigners. And when they do see one they figure if you are there you are more streetwise than the average gringo. Just because you "feel" safe does not mean that you really are. Likewise, in a place that you do not think is safe more than likely nothing will happen to you. Ex Santa Fe in Bogota and Vila Mimosa in Rio.
I have said several times that Colombia is inordinately dangerous in many regards. I have been to 49 countries now and Colombia is the only one where:
1) I was robbed multiple times (I. E. , twice in the same trip).
2) I was robbed in broad daylight with cops looking on, and indeed involved.
3) I was physically assaulted while being robbed of a very small amount.
4) I got thrown in jail for the weekend for resisting a robbery.
5) I received counterfeit bills from a taxista and then he called the cops.
6) The doormen in my building increased the danger rather than reducing it.
Out of all these 49 countries I have visited, Colombia is the ONLY one that I tell most people not to go to.
Take that for what it is worth. I still would go back there under the right set of circumstances, meaning a great exchange rate, the right wing men, the perfect time of year, and so forth, be.
Ut I don't like:
1) Fake tits.
2) Fake asses.
3) Guns.
4) Shitty food.
Out of 49 countries, I would rate the food in Colombia somewhere around #43 or so. I have spent a total of about four months in the country and I had two memorable meals.
Member #4394
09-27-15, 00:15
It is an open secret that a majority of police officers are on the gangs' payrolls (100-200 k pesos per week). They receive the payments to facilitate the gangs' business, IE. Robberies, extortion. City administrators and district judges are similar.
I have said several times that Colombia is inordinately dangerous in many regards. I have been to 49 countries now and Colombia is the only one where:.
This is just a block away from the Mansion hotel. Sad and scary.A couple years ago, a fellow monger was robbed at gunpoint right in front of the Mansion gate in broad daylight. He had just gone to the Citibank ATM and two guys drove up on a moto and robbed him.
Interestingly enough, the guy was a Chicago cop!
I think we can be lulled into complacency in Poblado because it's a nice, relatively wealthy area.
In response to Dickhead's post --- Do you really think Colombia is any more dangerous than Brasil or the DR? I've spent considerably time in all three, and to me they all can be quite dangerous in their own peculiar ways.
Black Page
09-27-15, 01:52
Possibly John Mariani was a contributor of ISG? From this sad story we can only draw two important, yet obvious, conclusions. This gentleman failed to obey the two most important rules:
1) NEVER, NEVER flash money or jewels or anything expensive in Colombia (as in MANY other countries, sorry Dickhead I disagree with you on ranking Colombia so low), even in Poblado.
You never know who could be looking, who he / she could call to make the deed on you.
2) NEVER resist to an assault. Not worth (especially if you followed rule 1)). I was robbed two times in Colombia (entirely my fault and lack of care). I quietly relaxed the folks putting the robbery in amicable terms. 200 k are not worth a bullet shot.
But see that is the paradox. Everyone knows the tourists are comfortable hanging around Poblado, so they are there ready to rip you off. Nobody is trying to rip you off in Centro because it is not known for many foreigners. And when they do see one they figure if you are there you are more streetwise than the average gringo. Just because you "feel" safe does not mean that you really are. Likewise, in a place that you do not think is safe more than likely nothing will happen to you. Ex Santa Fe in Bogota and Vila Mimosa in Rio.
I was robbered ONLY two times in Colombia, in spite of my night explorations with the mask of "Darth Vader of the Night" and both times it was entirely my fault:
1) Once coming out of Santa Fe at 6 pm. I felt relaxed, once out, so 3 teen boys assaulted my with a knife just out of Santa Fe on the very populated Cl. 19. After 30 seconds of relaxed conversation (from my side), they run away without money because the people of a bus passing by started to shout at them.
2) Once because I was so stupid to go alone with a girl, met in the street near Prado at 2 am, to a crappy hotel nearby. She threatened me with a knife once in the room, even exploring my shoes to be sure I was not hiding money there. I just seated down waiting the procedure to finish, because the last thing I wanted to see was her calling help from the hotel dooorman. Total damage 100 k. I left the hotel 30 seconds after her, under the smiling eyes of the doorman. Lesson learned.
I have said several times that Colombia is inordinately dangerous in many regards. I have been to 49 countries now and Colombia is the only one where:
Out of 49 countries, I would rate the food in Colombia somewhere around #43 or so. I have spent a total of about four months in the country and I had two memorable meals.
I wish you could tell us more about your bad adventures. It sounds interesting. Above all, I disagree with your opinion about food. Come on, if you come from USA, you CANNOT think Colombian restaurants are worse than in Tulsa!
Can you elaborate on your experiences? You have a lot of posts, so it's very possible you've shared your experience in the past. However when I look at number 1 through 6, the first thing I think of is that I don't know the circumstances. In many cases of a tourist being robbed, it's usually because the tourist gives off the impression of wealth and lack of knowledge on some common sense things. Most major cities have their issues, in good areas and not so good areas, I have been to Colombia a half dozen times now without being robbed yet I've walked through the streets of Amsterdam and Barcelona and had some unpleasant encounters that nearly led to me being robbed / pick-pocketed. Never in Bogota, or Medellin, or Cartagena.
Colombia has good food, I've never felt the food was disappointing.
I have said several times that Colombia is inordinately dangerous in many regards. I have been to 49 countries now and Colombia is the only one where:
1) I was robbed multiple times (I. E. , twice in the same trip).
2) I was robbed in broad daylight with cops looking on, and indeed involved.
3) I was physically assaulted while being robbed of a very small amount.
4) I got thrown in jail for the weekend for resisting a robbery.
5) I received counterfeit bills from a taxista and then he called the cops.
6) The doormen in my building increased the danger rather than reducing it.
Out of all these 49 countries I have visited, Colombia is the ONLY one that I tell most people not to go to.
Take that for what it is worth. I still would go back there under the right set of circumstances, meaning a great exchange rate, the right wing men, the perfect time of year, and so forth, be.
Ut I don't like:
1) Fake tits.
2) Fake asses.
3) Guns.
4) Shitty food.
Out of 49 countries, I would rate the food in Colombia somewhere around #43 or so. I have spent a total of about four months in the country and I had two memorable meals.
Bogota, Colombia An American tourist was shot to death during an apparent robbery attempt after leaving his hotel in a wealthy enclave of Medellin, Colombian authorities said Saturday.
Police identified the victim as John Mariani, 65, of New York, and said he was attacked Friday night when his taxi was intercepted by gunmen in a car and on a motorcycle. They said the assailants tried to take his wallet and personal belongings and shot him when he resisted. The attackers then fled.
Police offered a $16,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of the perpetrators.
The USA Embassy had no immediate comment. Police said Mariani had arrived in Medellin from Costa Rica, but gave no other information on him.
El Poblado neighborhood where the shooting happened is one of the Medellin's wealthiest and safest enclaves. It is a leafy neighborhood that is home to the city's vibrant dining scene and dozens of high-rise apartment buildings and hotels.
Medellin, the country's second biggest city, is a far cry from the 1980's when it was the headquarters for Pablo Escobar's feared Medellin cocaine cartel, and it has been experiencing a boom in tourism. The New York Times featured it at No. 11 on its list of 52 places to go in 2015.
Although the city remains a major center of crime, violence has dropped since Escobar's heyday, when more than a dozen people were slain daily on average. The city had a homicide rate last year of 26.1 per 100,000 residents, about five times the USA Average but well below major American cities like Detroit and Baltimore.
Seven Colombians were extradited to the USA Last year to face charges in the stabbing death of a Drug Enforcement Administration agent, James "Terry" Watson, who was killed during a botched "express kidnapping" by a ring that targeted unsuspecting passengers hailing taxi cabs in Bogota.
Can you elaborate on your experiences? You have a lot of posts, so it's very possible you've shared your experience in the past. However when I look at number 1 through 6, the first thing I think of is that I don't know the circumstances. In many cases of a tourist being robbed, it's usually because the tourist gives off the impression of wealth and lack of knowledge on some common sense things. Most major cities have their issues, in good areas and not so good areas, I have been to Colombia a half dozen times now without being robbed yet I've walked through the streets of Amsterdam and Barcelona and had some unpleasant encounters that nearly led to me being robbed / pick-pocketed. Never in Bogota, or Medellin, or Cartagena.
Colombia has good food, I've never felt the food was disappointing.You don't have to look rich. Using common sense helps but not a guarantee you won't get robbed. The thing that marks you the most is being a foreigner. In most third world countries foreigner are considerred easy marks because no one will care.
Bottom line is if you find yourself in that situation, give them your stuff. It's not worth dying over.
I like Colombia and will be going back again.
ForceSteeler
09-27-15, 06:48
Bogota, Colombia An American tourist was shot to death during an apparent robbery attempt after leaving his hotel in a wealthy enclave of Medellin, Colombian authorities said Saturday.
Police identified the victim as John Mariani, 65, of New York, and said he was attacked Friday night when his taxi was intercepted by gunmen in a car and on a motorcycle. They said the assailants tried to take his wallet and personal belongings and shot him when he resisted. The attackers then fled.
Police offered a $16,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of the perpetrators.
The USA Embassy had no immediate comment. Police said Mariani had arrived in Medellin from Costa Rica, but gave no other information on him.
El Poblado neighborhood where the shooting happened is one of the Medellin's wealthiest and safest enclaves. It is a leafy neighborhood that is home to the city's vibrant dining scene and dozens of high-rise apartment buildings and hotels..Well I'm in Medellin Right now, its very sad news, but like in any Big City like Medellin, NewYork, Chicago, LOS Angeles, even London, always watch your back.
GeechieBoy
09-27-15, 15:58
In my experience in Medellin I never felt really unsafe. One night I was walking with my novia in Sabaneta along a little path late at night and I got a little nervous. It was really dark and there were a lot of younger guys hanging around and drinking. This is the only time I ever felt unsafe. Poblado is just like any other large city-- you must always watch your back.
The recent murder in Poblado sounds like a set up. Someone knew this guy was coming-- either the cabbie, someone from the hotel, or someone from the airport. Possibly he was traveling with a lot of cash?
If he was coming from Costa Rica he was probably a fellow monger? Who knows?
My novia always tells me that she worries for my safety in Medellin. I just don't see it. I've traveled all over the world and never been in any type of scrape involving robbery or assault. Of course I do not carry myself like a victim.
At any rate- this news is quite sad and scary for all of us who frequent Medellin.
I wanted to ask if anyone on here uses Latin American Cupid? Experiences? I've been on for a little while and am chatting with a few cuties. I was just wondering what you all experience was.
I have said several times that Colombia is inordinately dangerous in many regards. I have been to 49 countries now and Colombia is the only one where:
1) I was robbed multiple times (I. E. , twice in the same trip).
2) I was robbed in broad daylight with cops looking on, and indeed involved.
3) I was physically assaulted while being robbed of a very small amount.
4) I got thrown in jail for the weekend for resisting a robbery.
5) I received counterfeit bills from a taxista and then he called the cops.
6) The doormen in my building increased the danger rather than reducing it.
Out of all these 49 countries I have visited, Colombia is the ONLY one that I tell most people not to go to.
Take that for what it is worth. I still would go back there under the right set of circumstances, meaning a great exchange rate, the right wing men, the perfect time of year, and so forth, be..Please don't take this as being personal however I'm puzzled why you spent four months in Colombia if you had so many bad experiences. I have to assume that you obviously look like a foreigner, hence the robberies that happened. Your not alone in this regards, all my buddies who are obvious foreigners on their last trip had robbery attempts on them, some successful. Speaking Spanish as well makes a difference even being a foreigner.
In regards to the food, there is good food, sin embargo, however you won't typically find it in El Centro but in the more upscale places in and around Poblabo and other upscale parts of town. There is a lot of organic vegetables etc. Used in dishes here and I know of three great places to eat around Parque Poblado.
Chris Long
09-27-15, 18:20
What are the alternatives to staying at the Mansion. Will be there next month and need an alternative location that is chica friendly and modestly priced.
Thanks,
Chris
I came across few more articles. This is just for more awareness.
http://colombiareports.com/medellin-violence-statistics/
LAC and CC are good, it may be a bit of work if you do not speak spanish however. You can use a translator, but it's better if you're able to speak spanish in the situation you decide to meet up with a non-pro and then you lay it on her that you can't speak any spanish whatsoever and that will give the impression that you're just looking to get laid. I've generally had good success on the cupid sites, but I use it more to find dates when I'm in Colombia or DR (DominicanCupid). You can still find pros / semi-pros on there though.
Back to the safety thing, I think one should also keep in mind that we're hearing about this issue because it involved an American tourist. Robberies, and other crime take place every day in Latin America and often involving residents, and not tourists. Most of us probably stay in El Poblado and any incident like this can make a person slightly uneasy, but this could have happened anywhere with any resident or visitor and we still don't quite know the circumstances. The last few times I've been in El Poblado around Parque Lleras, in a way I felt like I was in an American city with the number of western guys that were there on a Friday night! With that said, everyone should make every effort to be safe and enjoy the hobby safely.
In my experience in Medellin I never felt really unsafe. One night I was walking with my novia in Sabaneta along a little path late at night and I got a little nervous. It was really dark and there were a lot of younger guys hanging around and drinking. This is the only time I ever felt unsafe. Poblado is just like any other large city-- you must always watch your back.
The recent murder in Poblado sounds like a set up. Someone knew this guy was coming-- either the cabbie, someone from the hotel, or someone from the airport. Possibly he was traveling with a lot of cash?
If he was coming from Costa Rica he was probably a fellow monger? Who knows?
My novia always tells me that she worries for my safety in Medellin. I just don't see it. I've traveled all over the world and never been in any type of scrape involving robbery or assault. Of course I do not carry myself like a victim.
At any rate- this news is quite sad and scary for all of us who frequent Medellin.
I wanted to ask if anyone on here uses Latin American Cupid? Experiences? I've been on for a little while and am chatting with a few cuties. I was just wondering what you all experience was.
I'm from England too and was in Medellin a few weeks ago. I'm going back later this year.
A little bit of Spanish would help, just to be polite. If you are streetwise you don't need a guide to party in Parque Llera. I'd suggest getting a subscription to ISG and PM me. Happy to help out and give advice to make the most of your trip.
Cheers!
Hola my fellow gents!
I'm trying to get the low down of the best options / advice for a group of Non-Spanish speaking travelers to Medellin. We'll be staying about 1 mile from Parque Llera.
We are about 10 British guys, looking to party for a weekend. Given limited Spanish abilities, and warnings about just trying to mingle like we would in streets of England. What is your advice? All of us are single and are headed to Colombia for pretty much nothing but a fuckfest to unwind from the rainy weather out here.
Should we hire a local guide? Any recommendations?
Can we bring women back to our place for overnights / sex parties?
Or better to go to local parlors like San Deigo or FASE II?
Appreciate the advice.
It's a messed up story; he may have still been in CR mode as the news article indicates he was recently there. You can't treat MDE or BOG like being in Sportman's Lodge in San Jose or Blackbeard's in DR. Many DR and CR mongers never really transition well to Colombia but it is f*ed up this guy never even really had the chance.
I'm into cowrie shells and I used to occasionally wear a necklace or bracelet with a few shells on them but after reading about this incident, I'm not going to wear even the worthless stuff. These young thieves are stupid enough to think that if a gringo has some kind of bracelet or necklace on, he's loaded with cash and an easy target. It's just not worth tempting the fates to score some fashion or coolness points.
By the way that's why you see most guys, even the young ones, dress pretty casual in the clubs. You'll see many women dressed up of course but most guys usually don't play the dress up or fashion game.
I'll admit I like to wear a Skagen watch when I go out; they have a nice designs and are thin and light, but they're not worth much so no big loss if stolen. For a smartphone, I'll carry an S2 or S3 galaxy, not the latest and greatest. Guys, leave your iPhone 6 or your S5 or S6 galaxy at home or in the hotel safe. Try to minimize your loss if you do get robbed. I've always hated lugging a wallet at night in my back pocket or inner jacket pocket, especially when abroad, so I just put a credit card and ID card in one jean pocket and 30-50 K pesos in the other. The rest of the money is hidden somewhere else. I dress nice, but not flashy.
If you're going somewhere really sketchy (centro at night), forget the watch and just bring an old regular cell phone, not a smartphone. Dress down a small step more.
Also, it's a really bad idea to resist or try to do any funny move. Like I said these young thieves are so dumb and trigger-happy (and likely liquored up or drugged up to bolster their courage for the robbery) it could really back-fire on you. Given today's exchange rates, or even the lousy ones from a couple years ago, it should be no major loss to cough up 50 k pesos and an old phone.
As for the Poblado thing, I don't see why all the surprise. In Bogota, there is just as much crime in the upper-crust "Zona T" nightlife sector as in the sketchy Santa Fe neighborhood. After all, the crooks like to go where the money is.
I'm puzzled why you spent four months in Colombia if you had so many bad experiences.I have spent four months total in Colombia, spread out over many years. In Medellin I rented an apartment for three months and left after two months, due to the second robbery. I speak excellent Spanish but I absolutely look like a gringo and can't do anything about that as my ancestors all trotted out of the peat bogs 100 years or so ago.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/shock-long-island-man-killing-colombia-article-1.2376616
Colombia Jake
09-28-15, 17:27
What are the alternatives to staying at the Mansion. Will be there next month and need an alternative location that is chica friendly and modestly priced.
Thanks,
ChrisNobody has Girlfriend experience dates and a chica friendly environment like we have here! Ralp is on his last two days after being here 15 nights and enjoying 15 different Girlfriends while he has been here! The girls show up at 7 pm ish and he takes them to a Restaurant in Park Lleras for a bite to eat and a drink and depending on the night and the action around the park he comes back anywhere between 9 and 12 for sex and fun! Natalia here speaks perfect English and is a lot of fun to hang out with!
Thanks.
Colombia Jake
I have spent four months total in Colombia, spread out over many years. In Medellin I rented an apartment for three months and left after two months, due to the second robbery. I speak excellent Spanish but I absolutely look like a gringo and can't do anything about that as my ancestors all trotted out of the peat bogs 100 years or so ago.Looking like a gringo sucks sometimes, and that's exactly what I thought was the problem you were having when I read your post. I too have spent about four months total over the past eight years in Colombia as well. However my ancestors are from southern Europe and I pass as a Colombian as people at times ask me for directions, what time it is, etc. And when I speak they know I'm not Colombian. I've been lucky as I have never had an incident here but always have the radar up as Colombians as well are targets.
The difference in the "wealthy" areas and why this comes as a surprise is because there is also increased security during the daytime and at night so it feels safe to walk around. I've walked around El Poblado at night along Carrera 43 A and there's always people, some light security here and there and never had an issue. I've walked around Zona Rosa / Zona T in Bogota and never much of an issue although both areas have a few sketchy characters walking around. Then you have a place like Santa Fe in Bogota, you'll see cops a block over from the clubs but lots of shady people. I've never faced an issue in either, knock on wood.
With regards to carrying a cell, I've noticed more and more that there are people carrying Galaxy S5's and iPhone 6's around Medellin and Bogota. That doesn't mean it's the best idea to carry one around, as you should always try to minimize what you carry on you, especially with something like a cell phone. There are plenty of good unlocked phones that don't cost a lot. Take a look at the Blu phone or OnePlus One. Or find a used one on eBay. I don't carry regular cell phones, there's no point in that and these days just about everyone has some type of a smart phone whether it's one that is worth $10 from years ago or a new iPhone. I'm pretty sure blending in doesn't mean carry around a brick Nokia where you can change the faceplate of the phone. Thieves want anything of value and aren't going after a watch or phone specifically, they can easily go after a pocket that has cash or debit / credit cards. A blingy watch in a country where a blingy watch is not the norm, is going to make you stand out. Having a 5 inch smart phone to check your facebook and whatsapp when just about everyone else is doing the same thing, that's not going to make you stand out really. If anything, it makes you blend in. What does make a person stand out is if they pull a smart phone and keep checking their maps to see if they are going the right direction, and that's something that can be spotted rather easily. That's what I encourage people to avoid doing. Get in a restaurant or cafe, use the restroom and pull out your phone to look at directions in there. Not out in the open street.
It's a messed up story; he may have still been in CR mode as the news article indicates he was recently there. You can't treat MDE or BOG like being in Sportman's Lodge in San Jose or Blackbeard's in DR. Many DR and CR mongers never really transition well to Colombia but it is f*ed up this guy never even really had the chance.
I'm into cowrie shells and I used to occasionally wear a necklace or bracelet with a few shells on them but after reading about this incident, I'm not going to wear even the worthless stuff. These young thieves are stupid enough to think that if a gringo has some kind of bracelet or necklace on, he's loaded with cash and an easy target. It's just not worth tempting the fates to score some fashion or coolness points.
By the way that's why you see most guys, even the young ones, dress pretty casual in the clubs. You'll see many women dressed up of course but most guys usually don't play the dress up or fashion game.
I'll admit I like to wear a Skagen watch when I go out; they have a nice designs and are thin and light, but they're not worth much so no big loss if stolen. For a smartphone, I'll carry an S2 or S3 galaxy, not the latest and greatest. Guys, leave your iPhone 6 or your S5 or S6 galaxy at home or in the hotel safe. Try to minimize your loss if you do get robbed. I've always hated lugging a wallet at night in my back pocket or inner jacket pocket, especially when abroad, so I just put a credit card and ID card in one jean pocket and 30-50 K pesos in the other. The rest of the money is hidden somewhere else. I dress nice, but not flashy.
If you're going somewhere really sketchy (centro at night), forget the watch and just bring an old regular cell phone, not a smartphone. Dress down a small step more.
Also, it's a really bad idea to resist or try to do any funny move. Like I said these young thieves are so dumb and trigger-happy (and likely liquored up or drugged up to bolster their courage for the robbery) it could really back-fire on you. Given today's exchange rates, or even the lousy ones from a couple years ago, it should be no major loss to cough up 50 k pesos and an old phone.
As for the Poblado thing, I don't see why all the surprise. In Bogota, there is just as much crime in the upper-crust "Zona T" nightlife sector as in the sketchy Santa Fe neighborhood. After all, the crooks like to go where the money is.
Lucky Nuts
09-29-15, 03:18
In addition to the obvious of not wearing ANY jewelry in Medellin I'd like to offer one more thought. Be very wary of the taxi drivers. Last week I had one driver pepper me with questions on our way to el centro. I told him I was just going for lunch and to walk around. He made me a little nervous with all his questions. When I went to pay him he asked if I had different denominations to pay him. I think he was wanting to see how much cash I was carrying. I fanned out all 90 or 100 mil I had in my money clip to make clear this was all I had. Of course I had a couple hundred more in other pockets. It sounds like the murder victim was targeted and followed to the point he exited the taxi. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some taxi drivers out there acting as scouts for the thieves letting them know who is carrying a lot of cash. Important to make good use of the hotel safes and hide most of the cash needed to carry.
Black Page
09-29-15, 03:42
In addition to the obvious of not wearing ANY jewelry in Medellin I'd like to offer one more thought. Be very wary of the taxi drivers. Last week I had one driver pepper me with questions on our way to el centro. I told him I was just going for lunch and to walk around. He made me a little nervous with all his questions. When I went to pay him he asked if I had different denominations to pay him. I think he was wanting to see how much cash I was carrying. I fanned out all 90 or 100 mil I had in my money clip to make clear this was all I had. Of course I had a couple hundred more in other pockets. It sounds like the murder victim was targeted and followed to the point he exited the taxi. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some taxi drivers out there acting as scouts for the thieves letting them know who is carrying a lot of cash. Important to make good use of the hotel safes and hide most of the cash needed to carry.Frankly, it would be much more likely the driver wanted to be sure you were not going to put yourself in danger.
Among the 100's drivers I took in years in Medellin and Colombia, I never met anyone who could make me doubt. Yes, possible but unlikely.
I always keep no more than 100-200 in my wallet, and much more "hidden" here and there. In a robbery, that is not safe, but at least I show I have not much, when I pay a taxi etc.
About the murder, based on what we read, it was a well organized set-up: people on a bike AND a car. No way the taxi driver could call them after picking up the wealthy tourist. There is no time. Probably, that guy showed he had lots of cash, a goldd chain, something unusual well BEFORE. Wrong eyes spotted the guy, followed the taxi and called others.
I'm from England too and was in Medellin a few weeks ago. I'm going back later this year.
A little bit of Spanish would help, just to be polite. If you are streetwise you don't need a guide to party in Parque Llera. I'd suggest getting a subscription to ISG and PM me. Happy to help out and give advice to make the most of your trip.
Cheers!That's too far away for what Parque Lleras has to offer. Go to chapel Hill NC. Way more ladies here!
Frankly, it would be much more likely the driver wanted to be sure you were not going to put yourself in danger.
Among the 100's drivers I took in years in Medellin and Colombia, I never met anyone who could make me doubt. Yes, possible but unlikely.
I always keep no more than 100-200 in my wallet, and much more "hidden" here and there. In a robbery, that is not safe, but at least I show I have not much, when I pay a taxi etc.
That mirrors my own feelings. Another possibility is that the taxi driver might be nervous on his own account, rightly or wrongly. There are some areas of Centro where it is difficult to get a taxi or to get dropped off, but not all (Poblado) taxi drivers know the area well. I had a taxi driver drop me off one night (Poblado to Centro, straight run) which was in a pretty safe main street, but he was looking round nervously as he dropped me off. I assured him he was ok. Occasionally I have had a taxi driver ask me many questions by way of conversation to disguise the fact that he didn't know where he was going and wanted time to think (this was in Poblado, he was young and seemed new, and he was mostly confused by the one-way systems). In downtown I've had a taxi zoom off into a gridlocked street before being clear where I wanted to go, rather to my annoyance. In these last two cases, both drivers insisted on giving me a discount, which was fair. In other words, taxi drivers, even when not perfect, are human beings and mostly pretty decent.
I think it's likely the guy was cased. In other words, I don't think it was a spur of the moment crime of opportunity by people who followed a wealthy looking foreigner. I think that may be how it started but I have a feeling he was being watched for a time and the crooks decided he would be an easy target. Sadly, they were right.
It's a messed up story; he may have still been in CR mode as the news article indicates he was recently there. You can't treat MDE or BOG like being in Sportman's Lodge in San Jose or Blackbeard's in DR. Many DR and CR mongers never really transition well to Colombia but it is f*ed up this guy never even really had the chance.
I'm into cowrie shells and I used to occasionally wear a necklace or bracelet with a few shells on them but after reading about this incident, I'm not going to wear even the worthless stuff. These young thieves are stupid enough to think that if a gringo has some kind of bracelet or necklace on, he's loaded with cash and an easy target. It's just not worth tempting the fates to score some fashion or coolness points.
By the way that's why you see most guys, even the young ones, dress pretty casual in the clubs. You'll see many women dressed up of course but most guys usually don't play the dress up or fashion game.
I'll admit I like to wear a Skagen watch when I go out; they have a nice designs and are thin and light, but they're not worth much so no big loss if stolen. For a smartphone, I'll carry an S2 or S3 galaxy, not the latest and greatest..
People I know who work in Medellin tell their foreign employees to avoid hailing taxis. In my own experience, I've found a quick conversation at the beginning of the trip gives a good feel for whether the driver is on the up and up. Has it been confirmed where the taxi picked up the victim? I can't help but wonder if he was accosted at the end of a regular trip he had been taking nightly. I'm liking uber more than I already did after this event. That safe ride program is reassuring. I won't let down my guard in any event.
That mirrors my own feelings. Another possibility is that the taxi driver might be nervous on his own account, rightly or wrongly. There are some areas of Centro where it is difficult to get a taxi or to get dropped off, but not all (Poblado) taxi drivers know the area well. I had a taxi driver drop me off one night (Poblado to Centro, straight run) which was in a pretty safe main street, but he was looking round nervously as he dropped me off. I assured him he was ok. Occasionally I have had a taxi driver ask me many questions by way of conversation to disguise the fact that he didn't know where he was going and wanted time to think (this was in Poblado, he was young and seemed new, and he was mostly confused by the one-way systems). In downtown I've had a taxi zoom off into a gridlocked street before being clear where I wanted to go, rather to my annoyance. In these last two cases, both drivers insisted on giving me a discount, which was fair. In other words, taxi drivers, even when not perfect, are human beings and mostly pretty decent.
With regards to carrying a cell, I've noticed more and more that there are people carrying Galaxy S5's and iPhone 6's around Medellin and Bogota. That doesn't mean it's the best idea to carry one around, as you should always try to minimize what you carry on you, especially with something like a cell phone.
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A blingy watch in a country where a blingy watch is not the norm, is going to make you stand out. Having a 5 inch smart phone to check your facebook and whatsapp when just about everyone else is doing the same thing, that's not going to make you stand out really. If anything, it makes you blend in. What does make a person stand out is if they pull a smart phone and keep checking their maps to see if they are going the right direction, and that's something that can be spotted rather easily. That's what I encourage people to avoid doing. Get in a restaurant or cafe, use the restroom and pull out your phone to look at directions in there. Not out in the open street.Just to clarify, my Skagen is definitely not blingy, LOL! Skagens have nice designs to them but definitely muted. And I don't get watches with large faces or bracelets; I'm small framed, so a large Tag Heuer for example would look ridiculous on my wrist.
It's true many locals are carrying the latest smartphones but we're talking about gringo mongers here, not locals. I can blend in a bit, but a lot of guys reading this won't; they'll stand out as the new gringo tourist to begin with, then add to that the second factor, mongering does have its dangers and risks. Think of the guy who wrote about getting robbed in centro by a knife-wielding girl. He lost 100 k pesos, just $33 at today's rates; but if he had an S6 with him, he would have lost a $600 phone. Ouch. Like a smart investment strategy, we're just talking about trying to minimize your exposure to losses if something bad happens. So if he had an older galaxy, that would be a loss instead of around $100-$150 (current prices I see on eBay and Craigs List); still bad, but manageable.
You made me laugh when you mentioned the old Nokia bricks! I wouldn't go that far back, ha ha, but I wouldn't dismiss getting a non-smartphone as a backup and as your alternate when hitting the sketchier areas. You can get still get on eBay a brand new Motorola SLVR for $40-60 and you can get a scratched, used one for $10-20. At the used price, you can get a couple of them and only have to worry about replacing the SIM if you get robbed or it gets "lost" (happens to a lot of guys when they go out at night drinking and chatting up the chicas).
The SLVR is no brick, it'll fit in your pocket. Sometimes, older tech can still have its uses. Unless you absolutely need 24/7 access to your prepaga network on facebook and whatsapp, it could be an option to consider. Plus when you're out in Centro or Santa Fe, you're focusing on the low-end of the pay-for-play world, not the middle ground of facebook chicas. Bringing an iPhone 6 to Centro late night is like bringing caviar to a barbecue or cookout.
I agree guys should not be using google maps when out and about in MDE or BOG. Do your homework before, use google street view on your laptop or tablet in the safety and comfort of your hotel room or apartment. Check out the places you plan to go to before not during.
Big Johnson2
09-29-15, 06:35
I have said several times that Colombia is inordinately dangerous in many regards. I have been to 49 countries now and Colombia is the only one where:
1) I was robbed multiple times (I. E. , twice in the same trip).
2) I was robbed in broad daylight with cops looking on, and indeed involved.
3) I was physically assaulted while being robbed of a very small amount.
4) I got thrown in jail for the weekend for resisting a robbery.
5) I received counterfeit bills from a taxista and then he called the cops.
6) The doormen in my building increased the danger rather than reducing it.
Out of all these 49 countries I have visited, Colombia is the ONLY one that I tell most people not to go to.
Take that for what it is worth. I still would go back there under the right set of circumstances, meaning a great exchange rate, the right wing men, the perfect time of year, and so forth, be.
Ut I don't like:
1) Fake tits.
2) Fake asses.
3) Guns.
4) Shitty food.
Out of 49 countries, I would rate the food in Colombia somewhere around #43 or so. I have spent a total of about four months in the country and I had two memorable meals.It's very obvious you don't like Columbia. Can you give me your top 5 countries that you do like and why? Thanks.
Mr Jetsetter
09-29-15, 10:09
Best to call for a taxi, as opposed to hailing a random one from the street. The taxi company will provide you with the specific number of the taxi that will pick you up. Not always convenient or plausible when you are out and about, but it virtually eliminates any issues with the driver. I was given this advice with great emphasis by a very well-known and professional local guide / driver a few years back, and it makes a lot of sense. Not foolproof, of course, but another precautionary step.
Top Five Countries I like for mongering:
I would say Spain and the Slovak Republic are tied for #1. Both are relatively safe. Spain has better food but higher prices. Slovak woman are very beautiful. Spain has women from all over the world, though. Lots of South Americans.
#3 is probably Costa Rica because it's so damn easy and the rest of the country is beautiful for non-mongering activities. Guys who complain about the high prices don't speak Spanish and go to all the wrong places. #4 would be Thailand but it is so far away and right now the political situation is disturbing. #5 would be Paraguay. It would be #1 or #2 but there is nothing else to do there and you can only go there in the winter because of the heat.
Argentina used to be great but is a shadow of its former self. I have not mongered in Brazil as I have only been along the Amazon.
Spain is my favorite country in the world, overall for mongering and not mongering.
Off topic, but have you tried to stay over 90 days? Is the visa problematic?
Top Five Countries I like for mongering:
I would say Spain and the Slovak Republic are tied for #1. Both are relatively safe. Spain has better food but higher prices. Slovak woman are very beautiful. Spain has women from all over the world, though. Lots of South Americans.
#3 is probably Costa Rica because it's so damn easy and the rest of the country is beautiful for non-mongering activities. Guys who complain about the high prices don't speak Spanish and go to all the wrong places. #4 would be Thailand but it is so far away and right now the political situation is disturbing. #5 would be Paraguay. It would be #1 or #2 but there is nothing else to do there and you can only go there in the winter because of the heat.
Argentina used to be great but is a shadow of its former self. I have not mongered in Brazil as I have only been along the Amazon.
Spain is my favorite country in the world, overall for mongering and not mongering.
Best to call for a taxi, as opposed to hailing a random one from the street. The taxi company will provide you with the specific number of the taxi that will pick you up. Not always convenient or plausible when you are out and about, but it virtually eliminates any issues with the driver. I was given this advice with great emphasis by a very well-known and professional local guide / driver a few years back, and it makes a lot of sense. Not foolproof, of course, but another precautionary step.For the past 2 yrs I have made it a point to live in MDE for 3 or 4 months each year for vacation. I love this place but I still see the dangers around me. For transportation, I use Easy Taxi and Uber, both can be tracked if any issues comes up. Recently, I've become more leaning towards uber because I can get a fare estimate and if I need to complain, I just let Uber know. Another reason, is Uber drivers are given training and are screened before they are added to the network.
Off topic, but have you tried to stay over 90 days? Is the visa problematic?No its not problematic if you stay longer. You just have to pay a penalty fee or go to customs and have them stamp you for another 90 days both have fees. How much is the fee depends on how longer you over stay the 90 days. You are only allowed 180 days maximum each calendar year.
The Tall Man
09-29-15, 16:45
In addition to the obvious of not wearing ANY jewelry in Medellin I'd like to offer one more thought. Be very wary of the taxi drivers. Last week I had one driver pepper me with questions on our way to el centro. I told him I was just going for lunch and to walk around. He made me a little nervous with all his questions. When I went to pay him he asked if I had different denominations to pay him. I think he was wanting to see how much cash I was carrying. I fanned out all 90 or 100 mil I had in my money clip to make clear this was all I had. Of course I had a couple hundred more in other pockets. It sounds like the murder victim was targeted and followed to the point he exited the taxi. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some taxi drivers out there acting as scouts for the thieves letting them know who is carrying a lot of cash. Important to make good use of the hotel safes and hide most of the cash needed to carry.A few months back I posted the question about safety in Medellin, specifically about what I was hearing from my local Medellin friends who live and work there. Know that there are other gringo shit that goes on in Medellin that we NEVER hear about (IE kidnaps for ransom, etc.).
See post #17272:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1759083&viewfull=1#post1759083.
Now a few months later and unfortunately for the NY guy killed my Paisa friends were 100% correct.
This all being said I am going next month but must say that my whole outlook and they way I travel and move about will be completely different. We need to adopt the Jason Bourne attitude.
The Tall Man.
Off topic, but have you tried to stay over 90 days? Is the visa problematic?A 30 - 90 day extension is not hard to get, and I think an overstay fine will be much more expensive. They might only give you one 30-day extension at a time. Also, you can not go beyond your 180 days per year even with an extension. One thing I didn't do was schedule an appointment ahead of time, which will make the process pretty quick. I think the appointment can be made by email, not sure. These two links should tell you everything you need to know:
http://www.medellinliving.com/how-to-extend-a-tourist-visa-in-medellin/
http://www.migracioncolombia.gov.co/index.php/tramites/permiso-temporal-de-permanencia
Top Five Countries I like for mongering:
I would say Spain and the Slovak Republic are tied for #1. Both are relatively safe. Spain has better food but higher prices. Slovak woman are very beautiful. Spain has women from all over the world, though. Lots of South Americans.
#3 is probably Costa Rica because it's so damn easy and the rest of the country is beautiful for non-mongering activities. Guys who complain about the high prices don't speak Spanish and go to all the wrong places. #4 would be Thailand but it is so far away and right now the political situation is disturbing. #5 would be Paraguay. It would be #1 or #2 but there is nothing else to do there and you can only go there in the winter because of the heat.
Argentina used to be great but is a shadow of its former self. I have not mongered in Brazil as I have only been along the Amazon.
Spain is my favorite country in the world, overall for mongering and not mongering.I'm guessing if you try Brasil, it may move to the top of your list. I've been to most of the mongering locales and Brasil is a very solid #1 for me.
What is great about Paraguay? That's one place I've never thought about trying. Landlocked and very poor, right? I've heard that Asuncion is a dump.
A few months back I posted the question about safety in Medellin, specifically about what I was hearing from my local Medellin friends who live and work there. Know that there are other gringo shit that goes on in Medellin that we NEVER hear about (IE kidnaps for ransom, etc.).
See post #17272:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1759083&viewfull=1#post1759083.
Now a few months later and unfortunately for the NY guy killed my Paisa friends were 100% correct.
This all being said I am going next month but must say that my whole outlook and they way I travel and move about will be completely different. We need to adopt the Jason Bourne attitude.
The Tall Man.Don't forget Colombia is still a third world country.
Since it has been a few weeks since my first trip to Medellin, I guess it's about time that I write a report about it and share my experience.
Transportation.
Air. Google Flights or Matrix ITA is probably the best way to find the cheapest flight. I flew Spirit and didn't have any major problems. If you stop by the duty free at MDE on your way back and have a layover in Fort Lauderdale, make sure to check your bag after immigration and put any liquor or liquids you may have bought at the duty free in it. I learned this the hard way. I got all the way to the security check point (at the Fort Lauderdale airport when you leave the immigration area you have to go through a security check again before you go to your connecting gate) before anyone told me that even duty free items that I had purchased during that trip (which were still sealed) had to be in checked luggage or thrown away. A huge waste of an hour that I will never get back.
Land. From the airport just find a cab and ask what the flat fare fee will be. Usually between 60-70 mil pesos. Do not use the cab pickup service from the mansion. They quote you at 70 mil, but then the guy who picked me charged me 80 mil. I paid him be / see I didn't feel like getting into an argument within the first hour of being there. As for getting around use easy taxi or uber, both are safe and reliable and cheap.
Lodging. I stayed in 3 different places.
Mansion / Castle. This place is great. If you want a slightly more quiet experience get a room at the castle (m2). All the vets I met were very helpful and informative. The pool at M1 and the cave is like shooting fish in a barrel. Clean rooms, clean towels, and friendly staff. Great location, except that if you're at M2 the walk back up the hill can be a bit much if you are either out of shape or not used the altitude. Some of the rooms can be a little small and one of the rooms I saw had no windows, but if you look at the pictures on the website it gives you a general idea of what you'll be getting. The breakfast is plain and simple, but if you like french toast they do have that as an option along with the fruit, juice, and eggs.
Happy Buddha Boutique Hostel. Checked into a private room with a / see with a "novia" for a couple days. Great location a block from Parque lleras, super cheap, and a bunch of travelers who love to party. Different experience, but probably won't do it again.
Colombia Jake's. The place is in a very nice neighborhood. His apartment has 4 real rooms. He lives in the fifth room and there is another "room" which is actually the patio area that is sectioned off by partitions. If you are thinking about booking with Jake I would specifically ask not to have that "room". It felt like I was back in college with roommates in a multi room apartment or loft. I did do the rent a date package. First one was great. The second one had an attitude problem, but Jake kick her ass to the curb and got me another chica within the next hour. The third chica was so good I had her again the next night. If you are clear and descriptive enough about what you want Jake will get you almost exactly that. Alma's breakfast / brunch / lunch spot is amazing. Best eggs Benedict I've had south of the US. Also the coffee beans they sell there are very cheap and taste great. I bought about 4 pounds as gifts for friends and family back home. Overall I personally had a great experience and would recommend it. If you have any questions just PM me.
General.
Clothing. Since I was the one that brought up this issue before my trip, I believe I owe the people who read this board a clear answer. During the day if you are not out to pick up girls and are staying in Poblado or going to touristy areas wear whatever you want. Shorts, sandals, flipflop, tank tops, hats, baseball caps. Doesn't matter. If you are trying to pick up girls or going out at night you don't have to wear a suit, but clean and presentable is my advice. Whatever you wear should be acceptable at Capital Grill, Morton's, or Ruth's Chris is my rule of thumb. A clean non-wrinkled shirt (doesn't have to have a collar), nice jeans / khakis / slacks, with clean sneakers or dress shoes. I don't recommend flashy or shiny jewelry.
Safety. Lately there have been a lot of comments about safety on the boards. In my opinion as long as you are not stupid and aware of your surroundings you have nothing to worry about at least in Poblado and the Laurales area. I was traveling by myself and would be walking around alone between 2-5 am. No one hassled me and I was never close to being robbed. I'm not sure what other people did or how they handled themselves to get robbed, but as long as you are aware of your surroundings and don't act like a stuck up foreign idiot you should be fine.
Language. I brushed up a little bit on my Spanish before I went down, but that was not enough. The better your Spanish is, the more you will get out of Colombia. I have been practicing duolingo and pimsleur everyday since I've been back, so that my next trip won't be so google translate dependent.
Water. Get your typhoid shot before you go down, but I did not have any issues drinking the tap water.
Food. Probably everyone's favorite is Crepes and Waffles, but for me it didn't matter where I ate it was all delicious to me. I'm not a very picky eater, but I do appreciate fine dining as well. I have eaten at a few michelin star restaurants across the globe. With other people saying that all the food is crap, they probably order a steak well done and eat it with ketchup.
Altitude. Medellin is roughly 5000 ft above sea level. If you are not used to being in high altitude it may take a day or two to get used to it. Keep that in mind for your trip as well.
Phone. Buy an unlocked phone from amazon and get a tigo GSM chip / card. 30 mil pesos will give you enough minutes and data for a week. I recommend the Motorola moto e / g, samsung galaxy s3/4 mini, kingzone z1, or any of the BLU smart phones for around $80-200. Cheap but fully functional. Facebook Messenger and Whatsapp are must have apps, along with google translate, a non data dependent translator, and google maps. Easy taxi and uber for transportation.
Money. Get a Schwab and / or Citi checking account. No foreign ATM fees and you get the best rate. Do not use the currency exchange at the airport.
Women.
The women are ridiculously beautiful. IMHO Colombian women are the most beautiful compared to all others. Can't go into much detail about women since this was my first trip and was more so to get a lay of the land, see how the game works down there (I've only mongered in mexico. Mainly Tijuana, Canada. Montreal, and south Korea. Colombia is very different from those places), and I didn't get as much in as I normally would have liked to. First girl I had, I don't remember her name but her facebook is Sharid kemera. 320 mil for tln. Had her for roughly 11 or 12 hours. Great GFE, huge appetite, oral skills weren't to my liking, but everything else was great. Second was a short little spinner, tatiana? Maybe. A bit mechanical, but great service. 170 mil. Memory kinda get foggy from here and forgot to take notes. I just remember a slender chick with very hairy forearms. From what I remember she was good and only 170 mil. If you are staying with Jake ask for Lorena, you will not be disappointed, 420 mil tln. There are others, but those I will keep until I am done with them.
Hope this information helps.
Cheers.
Brasil, everybody I know who goes there gets robbed. It is too hot for me and I can't speak Portuguese so it is hard to motivate myself to go to one of the three countries in South America where I don't speak the language. I am in Portugal right now and I can read everything but I can't understand shit. Or more precisely, I understand about half the words in each sentence but I can't understand any individual sentences. So if I want to fuck Brazilians, who certainly are good fucks, I do it in Spain.
Yes, not just Asunción but the entire nation of Paraguay is a complete dump, a total piece of shit, and is indeed landlocked (although that is just because they had an insane president who lost an insane war and thus their former coastline) although so is the Slovak Republic and several other fine countries. Not sure how landlocked factors into the equation.
Paraguayan pussy is second to none. Paraguayan women will do any fucking thing you can think of without batting an eyelash (although in the brothels they may very well require a condom). Paraguayan women can shed all their clothes in less than three seconds. It is quite unbelievable.
I fucked so many paraguayas in Buenos Aires that I finally decided I had to go there. The first time was in early November and it was 116 degrees Fahrenheit or 46 point something Celsius. The third time was in August and it still hit 90 F although that is abnormal. So it is a tadly bit on the warm side. Despite all that, serving cold beer is a point of national paraguayan pride so it is tolerable. I recommend reading At the tomb of the inflatable pig if you want to go there, or even if you don't. Madame Lynch was quite an interesting historical figure.
No its not problematic if you stay longer. You just have to pay a penalty fee or go to customs and have them stamp you for another 90 days both have fees. How much is the fee depends on how longer you over stay the 90 days. You are only allowed 180 days maximum each calendar year.The question, admittedly off topic, was about Spain. This information is absolutely inaccurate because the rule is 90 days within 180 days and the 180 day clock starts ticking upon entry. You CANNOT get another 90 day stamp after being there for 90 days. After being IN the Schengen Zone for 90 days you must be OUT of the entire zone for 90 days. When was the last time you were there?
I have good news for you. In spite of the sad facts of the New York guy, and in spite of what your friends are telling you, the odds are grossly in your favor against ending up dead or robbed. I wish you a pleasant trip.
A few months back I posted the question about safety in Medellin, specifically about what I was hearing from my local Medellin friends who live and work there. Know that there are other gringo shit that goes on in Medellin that we NEVER hear about (IE kidnaps for ransom, etc.).
See post #17272:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1759083&viewfull=1#post1759083.
Now a few months later and unfortunately for the NY guy killed my Paisa friends were 100% correct.
This all being said I am going next month but must say that my whole outlook and they way I travel and move about will be completely different. We need to adopt the Jason Bourne attitude.
The Tall Man.
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