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[SlamCity7777]

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[Gannaton48]

This endless debate about paying is just boring; it is everyone's money and decision. I will be in Medellin within 2 weeks and would like to know what are experiences with prepagos / escort girls. That's why I have become a member of this forum.

[John]

At least I am willing and able to help those who are in need of prime looking girls. Don't matter what the price that is irrelevant. I don't see any of the other guys wanting to help with the 50 mil girls ($17). They just post the photos of the girls. No names no number on the board is fine but they are not even Volunteering to give information on anything with Private messaging. Not even to other senior members. The purpose of this board is to help other new mongers and not to have rant and rave chat wars.

Every one is looking for different thing. I am not trying to help those who want to go to New Life. Certainly those I can help who are wanting to afford the price of Loutron and La Isla girls. I have already helped Dollar Bill in the last 2 days and one other gentleman who asked for references. I certainly don't need any money or stupid guidance about 500 million pesos or 500 mil which ever you want to say it. We all get the point. If some one is going to act stupid I am not going to explain to him anything.

Bottom line, those of you who find good looking less expensive girls how many of you are willing to share info on the specific names and numbers of the girls please come forward and post photos here on the board. I am sure the girl will appreciate your help and we all can benefit. When I help some one on the board I make it clear that they are not going to pay any more than what I pay the girls. Every one appreciates good intel.

If you are not willing to share information than I suggest stop the BS. Let others help who are willing to help. I had given up helping people before because of same pricing police. This board has given so much information over the years to me. I certainly will not back down helping those who are looking for what I can help with.

So friends. I am not going to help anyone who has few posts either. I want to make sure that a member has helped others before and written good information on this board over the years. No matter which part of the world they have posted as long as you have solid posts on the board I can and will help them.

John.

[BrasilSoccer0]

Guys,

I am not sharing contact info. I don't ask for contact info of girls and never will. Anything else I'm happy to share with pleasure.

And I already explained how I did it. Quit the excuses and try it for yourself or just do what you do everytime you monger in medellin.

Some guy asked me in a pm what chances he had based on his age. But I just posted about how age and looks don't matter. . so please stop being lazy and read!

Yes my MO takes time for sure and yes these Paisas are the most capricious women I've ever seen in my life. But you get used to it and you begin refining the process till it tilts in your favor. Nothing I like more than walking the Centro looking for the next chica.

And this fear mongering doesn't work here. Colombian men are relaxed and don't have sexual tension like American and European men. So no I'm not worried about a jealous BF cause he is banging 2, 3 other hot young chicks. I'm the one who is jealous and need to catch up to them. LOL.

Who is fooling and lying to paisas! Maybe cubans, dominicans and other parts of Colombia especially baranquilla can be fooled but not medellin my friend. The great majority of them are happy with their lives and never want to resettle somewhere else. Trust me when it comes to paisas vs gringos they got the upper hand so far especially when I read some of the reports here. So leave your touchy feeling behind with your country.

If you feel generous and sad for the poverty then donate that money to charities who are better suited for it. Not to professional prepagos!

ONE LAST THING: for every girl I got there are five to 7 that went nowhere.

[Socker]

Those that were / are being charged more are getting hit up not because they are Chinese it is because they are rude, arrogant, and speak no Spanish. If you take out Chinese and put in any other nationality it would be valid as well.

I am Asian and have a two year degree / minor in Spanish, my buddy Guangzhou is Chinese, and another that in Philippine. We are all Asian. We all get TIP TOP girl and super GFE service. NOT in spite of being again and not because we are Asian. It is because we are nice, fun, and in general good dudes with solid to VERY good language skills.

I flamed a report of a Casa over charging Chinos on another board. With some digging and asking around, related stories the truth is that those Asian guys (Reported to me as Chinitos so it could be any flavor) were rude, grosero, cheap, didn't speak any Spanish, demanding. Ect.

See what I'm getting at? It's not the "Chino" part that is important here it's the Cool vs Rude, Cheap vs Generous, Polite vs Demanding, ect, ect.

You want GFE? Learn more Spanish than "How much?Well spoken Slam, It doesn't matter where you come from, it matters if you can walk, smile, and fuck. That's all the lady needs from you to collect her fee (w / smile).

The other guys who love the sport and spend some time getting good at it, well, the Colombians want more then money from them.

I just spent a quality month in Thailand and the PI. Now I'm looking forward to a week in Medellin, really looking forward to it.

A few current trip reports would be timely for me. I'm a Mansion guy though so maybe not much here for me.

Best to the ones that try.

[LatinaLover#1]

Those that were / are being charged more are getting hit up not because they are Chinese it is because they are rude, arrogant, and speak no Spanish. If you take out Chinese and put in any other nationality it would be valid as well.

I am Asian and have a two year degree / minor in Spanish, my buddy Guangzhou is Chinese, and another that in Philippine. We are all Asian. We all get TIP TOP girl and super GFE service. NOT in spite of being again and not because we are Asian. It is because we are nice, fun, and in general good dudes with solid to VERY good language skills.

I flamed a report of a Casa over charging Chinos on another board. With some digging and asking around, related stories the truth is that those Asian guys (Reported to me as Chinitos so it could be any flavor) were rude, grosero, cheap, didn't speak any Spanish, demanding. Ect.

See what I'm getting at? It's not the "Chino" part that is important here it's the Cool vs Rude, Cheap vs Generous, Polite vs Demanding, ect, ect.

You want GFE? Learn more Spanish than "How much?I have a student friend in Bogota 20 years old, excellent in bed, I mean world class BBBJ, sex and very uninhibited, she hangs with me for hours, sometimes we go out to Andres DC for dinner ect. Did I mention she has great body and cute as hell? Anyway I give her 150 k for taxi because she lives 40 min. Away. Ok long story short, we were out having a bottle of wine one night and she confessed to me she has one other 'friend' a Chinese guy and he gives her 1 million pesos when she sees him. She said he's very nice guy but eluded to me he is a bit of a pendejo. While I believe generalizations are unfair and usually wrong, draw your own conclusions.

[TroyBoy]

#1) I never ask a prostitute "how much? Like some clueless fuck- It is my job to do the research on boards like this or just ask around what the the "base rate" is for that particular venue. Some venues like the centro casas, Fase II, ect. Have base prices pretty much fixed in stone for a set amount of time- most venues do not, but there is still a way to determine what the "going rate" is for an hour of fun no matter where you are on this planet.

#2) The first number my prospect hears is 1. 5 x the "going rate" My time is valuable and my chee even more valuable. If I am going to spend time with a new novia, tilac or honeyko I want that to be memorable. Basic service does not cut it for me. There are certain things I desire and certain things / attitude that are absolutely necessary for me to even get it up. This is not my thing, but I think this illustrates the point: "If I truly want a mansion girl to rim me and stick her tongue 2 inches up my ass- I will probably be very disappointed when in the room she refuses to do this for the standard 150.000 cop. ".

#3) I then clearly explain what I looking for and need from her- Let us continue with the Mansion example. Most would accept here that the rate for basic service from a mansion gal is 150,000 cop / HR. For me I would probably stipulate 2 hrs, kisses, BBBJ-CIM, multiple boinks if time allows. I am pretty good at laying out my desires in a teasing and playful manner-- but she gets the idea of what I am looking for. I never want to hear the words "No Baby" come out of her mouth. It is my job to make sure there are no bad surprises. If your Spanish, Thai or Tagalog is not good enough then invest in a smartphone, load google translate and have your desires clearly stated / stored for reference.

#4) I TIP in advance to ensure good service, not to reward them for the grade of service they just gave me--FUTURE. - When I find a stunner who plays the game I like I make sure she is happy with the compensation. I want her to remember me and be put on her short list of guys she wants to see again--period. Even in a prepay casa I will put the 20,000 cop tip on the nightstand in advance: "Esto es tuyo si tengo una sonrisa en una hora .."--- now it is her job to make sure I have a smile. I will remind her that when she breaks that condom out for the BJ-- I will point to the tip sitting there and shake my head "no",,,usually she will nod and proceed.

There are many ways to play and pay this game. No one person is correct. The 1.5x base rate payment for what I consider 2x service delivers me "VALUE". Some here will say I am crazy to pay 50% too much. I have learned that too often when I go for base rate I have unpleasant experiences. I have almost all good experiences now so I will keep this MO. (Method of Operation).

The last few days this board has had some lively discussion and some flaming I feel is uncalled for. I hope all will continue to post (ie: $Bill and John). Some of the comments towards them would probably cause me to DC posting, but I have a fairly thick skin. I hope they do too. Over the years I have met many members of this board and other boards who's in person gentle personality does not match their flaming board persona. I do not know why internet anonymity brings out such bad manners in some. Let us all remember that we who play this game have so much more in common than we do with all those average Joes out there who do not have a clue what this world has to offer or with those who would condemn us all for our actions. Let us pool our resources and not bicker.

[Surfer500]

#1) #4) I TIP in advance to ensure good service, not to reward them for the grade of service they just gave me--FUTURE. - When I find a stunner who plays the game I like I make sure she is happy with the compensation. I want her to remember me and be put on her short list of guys she wants to see again--period. Even in a prepay casa I will put the 20,000 cop tip on the nightstand in advance: "Esto es tuyo si tengo una sonrisa en una hora .."--- now it is her job to make sure I have a smile. I will remind her that when she breaks that condom out for the BJ-- I will point to the tip sitting there and shake my head "no",,,usually she will nod and proceed.A very different approach to tipping having the money upfront, I can see how it can reap good service, especially in the low end casa's where the tip may be approaching 50% or more of what their getting from the casa for the session.

[Dccpa]

Well I hope that the deal turned out favorable. Not knowing the difference between millions and thousands in Spanish could turn out tragic though when doing a real estate transaction in Colombia.

Best wishes.I am curious whether buying a potted plant qualifies as a real estate purchase in Colombia?

[Dickhead]

This encapsulates succinctly why I no longer share information about specific women unless I never plan to go back to a location again:

"The first number my prospect hears is 1. 5 x the 'going rate' ... I TIP in advance to ensure good service."

[SBeach25]

Hey guys, glad to hear members like Slam, Brasilsoccer chiming in. As a member, and if anyone wants to know, I'm living in MDE for 5 months this year and maybe another next year, I try to bring knowledge and give back. The constant "norm" for these trolls to come and blast contributors have me hesitant on posting my input mainly because I'm not here to help you feed what ever ego you need to make yourself the expert on these threads and I'm not scared of what ever blasts you give back. In fact, I really don't care. I'm here to help. So I reach out via PM to those who actually want advice and do contribute. My advice right now is to just appreciate the input members bring. Yes, it may not have worked for you but it may for others. As for the terms Cheap Bast*DS, how many of you guys have invested just a little more with some charm and can say after a few months these girls come over just to hang out and fun, all for just a 20 k cab fare. I bet very few have or has. I personally know a couple and myself included. And as I posted on a more gentleman like forum, two key factors (I'm sure there are others) is TIME and Charm. Right Slam? LOL. Good luck gentlemen.

[Surf Looker]

Anyone been or tried to get info on this girl.

Juliana Elejalde. I seem to remember someone posting about her that she was available, CaptSparrow or someone.

http://chicas.qhubomedellin.com/2013/04/juliana-elejalde-gonzalez/

[The Tall Man]

Girl with big breasts approached her while she was crossing a street towards the metro line in el centro the prada station area night time!

Told me she is not a working girl. LOL I told her I'm not looking for working girls. Just a semi who didn't expect a foreigner proposition her but was happy I was there to offer her a safer private apartment instead of he shitty hotels in the area. Told her my place is just 10 min away. In reality it was 30 min. We got to my apartment in el centro she obliged and took a good shower came out and gave a sweet GFE. I am not a fan of anal. But after the first shot I couldn't nut doing her normal. So I proded her and she initially resisted and explained she never did it not even with her BF. She looked scared.

I told her no worries I know how to ease it in with a lubricant. . she asked me what is a lubricant. . lmao. . I showed her and put a bit on her fingers she relaxed abit. Well, she was definitely a virgin there! I admit she was in pain and the perverted S&M in me woke up and didn't stop drilling her till I nutted deep in that tight hole. She took it as a champ for a first timer.

Was happy when I gave her 50 k cop and never complained. Future repeat for sure.

The other girl is a kripa smoker I knew from before. Here she is talking to her friend from my place after we did not deed. GFE minus oral. She was happy with 30 k cop. I eventually hooked up with her close friend who I posted below who is by far one of my best GFE.

You need to learn spanish. Looks don't mater and age doesn't mater. YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO CONVERSATE IN ESPANOL.

SO stop being lazy and learn spanish so you can approach any girl in the streets and have great experiences and not waist money.Very sweet looking girl she is! I will try your MO in central next visit. My espanol maybe muy malo but my wallet is large, jajajajaja.

The Tall Man.

[Advantageous]

I'm looking for a place close to either of the two nightlife hotspots; my main wants are a balcony with a nice view and chica-friendliness. I'd prefer a spacious 2 bedroom or two 1-bedrooms next to one another for my wing and I, and we're trying to stay within the 100-250/ nt range -- I know it's a tall order, but I'm hoping one of you gentlemen has something in mind that checks off at least some of those boxes. This will be my first time in Medellin, and after we spend our first night at the Mansion to get ourselves oriented, we're looking for a classy place of operations. If you have a recommendation AND you'll physically be in Medellin come Thanksgiving week, I'd be more than happy to compensate via buying the first couple of rounds!

[Surfer500]

Very sweet looking girl she is! I will try your MO in central next visit. My espanol maybe muy malo but my wallet is large, jajajajaja.

The Tall Man.The truth is your Spanish will be more of an issue than the size of your wallet. As Brazil Soccer stated very bluntly, you need to have Spanish speaking skills or you won't be able to do what he does!

[Old Parr]

I'm looking for a place close to either of the two nightlife hotspots; my main wants are a balcony with a nice view and chica-friendliness. I'd prefer a spacious 2 bedroom or two 1-bedrooms next to one another for my wing and I, and we're trying to stay within the 100-250/ nt range -- I know it's a tall order, but I'm hoping one of you gentlemen has something in mind that checks off at least some of those boxes. This will be my first time in Medellin, and after we spend our first night at the Mansion to get ourselves oriented, we're looking for a classy place of operations. If you have a recommendation AND you'll physically be in Medellin come Thanksgiving week, I'd be more than happy to compensate via buying the first couple of rounds!You might have wanted to read the Colombia Forum Index as that is what it is there for, and you would have seen an appropriate thread for your question titled "Medellin Hotels and Apartments".

[Vmonger]

Guys,

And this fear mongering doesn't work here. Colombian men are relaxed and don't have sexual tension like American and European men. So no I'm not worried about a jealous BF cause he is banging 2, 3 other hot young chicks. I'm the one who is jealous and need to catch up to them. LOL.This is bad advice. It's not about sexual tension it's about machismo and the lack of regard for life. Colombian men are all about machismo and they've grown up in a period violence and death were everyday occurrences. So it's not fear mongering to say that they won't think twice about beating / killing your gringo ass. Anecdotal evidence. One macho asshole tried to fight me because I bought a few rounds for a group of friends, one of whom was his girlfriend. I live in Medellin 3-6 months out of the year.

[SavePros321]

Let me Know if you want to ride out with Ericka below?

Thanks,

Colombia Jake.Pretty lame that your last few post are showing you having to resort to pimping in order to drum up business bro.

And before you try to say "The Mansion guys do it too!" Show me anywhere in any of their newsletters where they have said "come and book a room with us and I will personally set you up on a date with Kelly / Angela / Katherine / etc. ".

You definitely cannot point any posts from them on ISG saying anything remotely close to what you've been doing.

But I don't believe you are smart enough to fathom you'll eventually begin drawing the wrong kind of attention to yourself.

"Medellin es una chimba!" - N.G.

[Advantageous]

You might have wanted to read the Colombia Forum Index as that is what it is there for, and you would have seen an appropriate thread for your question titled "Medellin Hotels and Apartments".Thanks; would you be able to suggest some places were I to ask the same question there?

[SavePros321]

Thanks; would you be able to suggest some places were I to ask the same question there?He is saying go to the "Medellin Hotel and Apartments" thread and post the same questions you posted here in that forum. Perhaps spend some time reading the thread because you may find the answers to your questions. Grab a beer and dig in (reading)!

If you find a post where someone is talking about something close to what you are looking for, send them a PM and politely ask for further intel.

[Combo]

Pimping is illegal in Colombia. Guys here offering you the "favor" of a girls contact information are in all likelihood going to get their share of what you pay. Which is why they insist that paying 400-500 k is "normal. ".

[Mr Gogo]

Pimping is illegal in Colombia. Guys here offering you the "favor" of a girls contact information are in all likelihood going to get their share of what you pay. Which is why they insist that paying 400-500 k is "normal. ".To each his own but I never brought into that concept. The last thing I want is another dude involved in my pussy chase. Touts, pimps, and escort services are for some guys but maybe I'm old fashioned but I like to pull my own pussy on my own terms. Learning the cultural ways and the language has always allowed me to avoid extra services by dudes but maybe that's not the new avenue for some guys. The internet has made things much easier and guys don't need to care about the cultural aspect but for me that's why I travel, being about a cultural experience.

I was broke in on the "old Sosua" in 2006 where girls didn't care about money, they just wanted a boyfriend (naturally the hook was a WU boyfriend) but they would stay with you for your whole vacation and you would have to give them money just to leave. They would invite you to the house for a home cooked meal and show off their gringo boyfriend, it was lovely.

My first experience in Medellin in 2011 was also similar to this. I dated Darly who several guys have reported about on this board (I posted pictures back then) and she was a real trooper. What attracted me to her was she didn't do condom blow jobs and she was all about MY time. She worked at San Diego and she would drop by everyday and spend from 2 pm-8 pm with me before work at San Diego. She would invite me to her home or we would just lay in bed between sessions and pizza listening to my neighbors music, good times. I would give her 140 k for the afternoon and she would go to work. I would do my usual rotation solo of hitting La Mayorista from 10 pm-11 pm and then hit Luna Luneras and then hit 53 avenida finishing from 2 am-4 am at San Diego. I would just scout places at night and slip my number to five girls and hope 3 would call the next day for an afternoon delight. Carolina was my favorite (anybody know what happened to her? But she was in high demand so she wasn't always open.

One time I was eating lunch at the mall and this beautiful girl was with her mom. As they posed for pictures with each other I offered to take pictures of them which started our conversation. The daughter invited me to their home for a meal the next day but I was on a low level pussy chase and passed but me and the daughter remained pen pals until she got married two years ago.

My point is that if you know the language and have some suave about yourself you don't need a pimp / service for girls in Medellin. I really don't post much nowadays because the board doesn't have much value to me but I've noticed the change. Guys want "easy" and "convenient" and I respect that but you are missing so much if you don't dive into the culture that you really take from what its about. For me its not about traveling for an easy fuck with a pretty girl (Thats easy), its about spending time and to know their culture and getting the respect because you gave a fuck to that.

[John]

Pimping is Illegal in Colombia and the way Colombia Jake advertising it can be construed as that. That is true. but IMHO. If you stay with him he can help you locate girls without any money going to him for girls services. I have no interest in business at Mansion or Colombia Jakes house, but either one is a very good start to mongering in Medellin.

Anyways I hope every one has a good time in Medellin. Reason I am willing to help people in Medellin who are willing to spend extra money is simple. I have gone through the horrors myself. It was in 2007 or 2008 October my fourth trip to Medellin. I was staying at Mansion. So one night I got really frustrated and asked Robert the owner of Mansion. Hey Robert please help me I am tired of this average looking girls that come to the Mansion. I see so many beautiful girls in Parque lleras. I mean I am willing to spend a little extra money. Robert at the time told me he can call in People who have so many girls that they can show me but the girls will charge 500 mil pesos and they will be nothing better but just Plastic bodies. I told Robert, bro I don't want plastic siliconas. I want beautiful natural looking girls. Well conversation ended that day. Next afternoon Robert brought in a person who showed me few girls photos almost all were plastic but I liked one girl who was very cute. Her name was Sara Gil. That agent said she will charge you 250 mil for 2 hrs session. I said hell yes I am ok with that. Sara Gil came and we became friends at the time. We later agreed to have a direct contact and Sara helped me out with friends of hers directly. She introduced me to her friend Luisa. I am still thankful to Robert for helping me at the time. It is different that I paid him back many times over. Robert has had 2 girl friends in the past amongst many of his favoritas that were introduced to him by me.

I am just posting photos of Sara Gil and her friend Luisa. Both of these girls are very high end working girls now with all Plastic work done. Pricing is all a matter of individual choice. I am just posting photos to show what Medellin can offer. Sara and Luisa are really hard to get to now but Photos are posted just as a reference.

By the way how convenient of people just to come out I am not sharing numbers where it is easy for them just to boast about having fun for 50 mil pesos. What good are you doing by suggesting people to go to Centro and look for girls that is suicide in the longer run in Medellin. This is Colombia after all people you need to take care. Medellin is generally very safe until you fuck with the wrong people.

John.


Pimping is illegal in Colombia. Guys here offering you the "favor" of a girls contact information are in all likelihood going to get their share of what you pay. Which is why they insist that paying 400-500 k is "normal. ".

[Colombia Jake]

Pretty lame that your last few post are showing you having to resort to pimping in order to drum up business bro.

And before you try to say "The Mansion guys do it too!" Show me anywhere in any of their newsletters where they have said "come and book a room with us and I will personally set you up on a date with Kelly / Angela / Katherine / etc. ".

You definitely cannot point any posts from them on ISG saying anything remotely close to what you've been doing.

But I don't believe you are smart enough to fathom you'll eventually begin drawing the wrong kind of attention to yourself.

"Medellin es una chimba!" - N.G.First of all I'm on a board with guys who are interested in no matter how you market it whether its in house at the mansion or take out at my place. There's no posts that are remotely close to what I'm doing because no one's been smart enough to market this way until now give me some credit! Everyone knows its not pimping when I'm not taking a cut of the girls money. Its clearly stated if you rent a room here with me, I will be happy to introduce you to a girlfriend experience date and what happens between you two as far as money is between you both. The bottom line is its smart marketing and there is nothing illegal about it! I'm drawing the right kind of attention because my place has a steady flow of traffic, and the guys who stay here love it! I appreciate the mansion because a lot of my business comes when they are full, and I get the overflow! You may not like it, but that's the way I post with pretty girls pictured who what to meet nice men who want to enjoy an evening out together which they won't find anywhere else!

I wish the board had a bit more humor so this is my contribution today is below!

Thanks,

Colombia Jake

[LatinaLover#1]

First of all I'm on a board with guys who are interested in no matter how you market it whether its in house at the mansion or take out at my place. There's no posts that are remotely close to what I'm doing because no one's been smart enough to market this way until now give me some credit! Everyone knows its not pimping when I'm not taking a cut of the girls money. Its clearly stated if you rent a room here with me, I will be happy to introduce you to a girlfriend experience date and what happens between you two as far as money is between you both. The bottom line is its smart marketing and there is nothing illegal about it! I'm drawing the right kind of attention because my place has a steady flow of traffic, and the guys who stay here love it! I appreciate the mansion because a lot of my business comes when they are full, and I get the overflow! You may not like it, but that's the way I post with pretty girls pictured who what to meet nice men who want to enjoy an evening out together which they won't find anywhere else!

I wish the board had a bit more humor so this is my contribution today is below!

Thanks,

Colombia JakeDon't see a problem here. Could be a great way for a newbee to hit the ground running. There is no such thing as too much information in this hobby. If the prices are high, don't use him. Never understood why some guys have a problem with someone posting information. Schilling, advertising, pimping whatever you want to call it, so what! If you don't need the service, read it and go on to something else. I'm not condoning or condemning here but I think we should allow anyone to post information on services without being attacked.

[Combo]

John.

So you'd like to "help guys that are willing to spend a bit more money." That's awfully nice of you. And they should expect to pay 400-500 mil (or is it million?) for the privilege of meeting your acquaintances. How much of it do the girls give you?

I think any half-way intelligent board member can see that you are the one trying to pimp.

I'm not worried about Colombia Jake. He at least is selling rooms, which seems a good option for the first-time visitor that doesn't want to stay at the Mansion. Yeah, his posts get old, but he is running a legitimate business.

[SlamCity7777]

Pimping is Illegal in Colombia and the way Colombia Jake advertising it can be construed as that. That is true. but IMHO. If you stay with him he can help you locate girls without any money going to him for girls services. I have no interest in business at Mansion or Colombia Jakes house, but either one is a very good start to mongering in Medellin.

Anyways I hope every one has a good time in Medellin. Reason I am willing to help people in Medellin who are willing to spend extra money is simple. I have gone through the horrors myself. It was in 2007 or 2008 October my fourth trip to Medellin. I was staying at Mansion. So one night I got really frustrated and asked Robert the owner of Mansion. Hey Robert please help me I am tired of this average looking girls that come to the Mansion. I see so many beautiful girls in Parque lleras. I mean I am willing to spend a little extra money. Robert at the time told me he can call in People who have so many girls that they can show me but the girls will charge 500 mil pesos and they will be nothing better but just Plastic bodies. I told Robert, bro I don't want plastic siliconas. I want beautiful natural looking girls. Well conversation ended that day. Next afternoon Robert brought in a person who showed me few girls photos almost all were plastic but I liked one girl who was very cute. Her name was Sara Gil. That agent said she will charge you 250 mil for 2 hrs session. I said hell yes I am ok with that. Sara Gil came and we became friends at the time. We later agreed to have a direct contact and Sara helped me out with friends of hers directly. She introduced me to her friend Luisa. I am still thankful to Robert for helping me at the time. It is different that I paid him back many times over. Robert has had 2 girl friends in the past amongst many of his favoritas that were introduced to him by me..[Forum Complaint deleted by Admin] Jonh helped me out via FB back in 10/11? My first few trips to mede 07 I was just about non pros, I had the time to date and the language skills. But as we get older and more important at work, family stuff, my trips went from Months to weeks, to now days.

He gave me FB links, numbers, etc. Dude prob does not remember but I still chat with his buddies from time to time.

Can John come off as a jerk? Hellz yes! Hahaaha. But once again he ain't a liar and has helped more than one dude here with GOOD girl hook ups. Here is the funny part. On ISG and other boards guys always ask. Where do I find the model /10's / Top Shelf Pussy? When a guy actually has an answer ya'll jump down his throat?

You think these girls the News caster, presentations, beauty queens, are going to cool with 125 mil para dos horas de sexo in mi apartment? NOPE! They already make that so they don't need your chichipto offer. A broke college girl or chica from the barrio might but not the model top shelf girls.

Shit even normal girls in clubs and FB are asking 200 mil +.

The level of old fart hater gringo here is off the charts!! What is so hard to believe? A top top top shelf girl wants 400 mil + for a ST date? She gets that in Bogota, Panama, China, Ect ect. IF she feels her pussy is worth that then that is the price she going to ask.

You don't have to pay if you don't want. But if you want that top shelf pussy it going to cost you.

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[Old Parr]

John.

So you'd like to "help guys that are willing to spend a bit more money." That's awfully nice of you. And they should expect to pay 400-500 mil (or is it million?) for the privilege of meeting your acquaintances. How much of it do the girls give you?

I think any half-way intelligent board member can see that you are the one trying to pimp.

I'm not worried about Colombia Jake. He at least is selling rooms, which seems a good option for the first-time visitor that doesn't want to stay at the Mansion. Yeah, his posts get old, but he is running a legitimate business.
Yami is a sweet heart. Nothing against her. I was the first one to fly her to Cuba. Her first trip overseas. Yami is so sweet that an extra $30 to her from me is just a gift I will pay her that much extra for all night any given day for specific services that I am looking for which you may or may not be getting from most of the girls. So Yes you can offer Vane or any of the girls that I pay 400 mil all night 300 mil but then most likely you will get 2 shots from them. Extra $33 gives me that and something more which I am not discussing here.

I don't want the girl to haggle with me in the night for an extra 100 mil. Rather just pay the girl that extra and tell her what I want in advance. No bullshit kind of person I am..Are you just reading bits and pieces of the posts here on the Medellin thread? He is the Rico Suave, Don Juan of the girls who reside in Medellin, despite being in his last 50's or early 60's with a SoCal attitude. I do not think he gets any kickbacks, just likes to feed his massive ego. He is a friend of Boyds from the Mansion Group or whatever it is called these days I am told. He is a good guy just very egoistical.

[Surf Looker]

John is a good guy, and has good info. He doesn't push anyone to see anyone specific. So I don't think he is pimping.

Plus I think most guys max for TLN is 300.

So I been to Del Rey Costa Rica and now will be going Medellin next month, Nov.

My type is the pornstar Esperanza Gomez type girls. Or model types.

Well they are available in Medellin, but from research seems like the cost for Short Time can be like.

$170 USD to $250 USD and TLN, who knows.

Without knowing how their performance is, I think to get the most out of my money is go with some pretty girls at some decent prices and that is enough to.

Enjoy Medellin and realize for the quality and price it's much better than Del Rey, Costa Rica.

Some model girls:

https://www.facebook.com/caritovelezarango?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=589610618


John.

So you'd like to "help guys that are willing to spend a bit more money." That's awfully nice of you. And they should expect to pay 400-500 mil (or is it million?) for the privilege of meeting your acquaintances. How much of it do the girls give you?

I think any half-way intelligent board member can see that you are the one trying to pimp.

I'm not worried about Colombia Jake. He at least is selling rooms, which seems a good option for the first-time visitor that doesn't want to stay at the Mansion. Yeah, his posts get old, but he is running a legitimate business.

[Member #4348]

Guys,

Hope that this trip report will be helpful to anyone who is thinking about coming to MDE. I've been to Costa Rica 35 plus times and this is my 3rd trip to MDE. Obviously, I'm still a rookie here and staying in M-2.

A newbie friend and I arrived on Wednesday on Spirit. Hotel M had their driver, Juan, waiting for us with a sign with my first name and last initial on it. The cambio on the arrival level of the airport were selling 2600 pesos per dollar. We went upstairs and got 2,780 pesos per dollar from another cambio. Go figure. To all the veterans, I know that one can get a better exchange rate from an ATM but I consciously chose to buy a couple of hundred dollars worth of pesos so that I wouldn't have to go looking for an ATM upon arrival at the hotel.

I still like the Mansion better than the Castillo. No matter what advantages people mention about the Castillo, ie, its more quiet and easy to sleep here, that hill from the Mansion up to the Castillo is a challenge. I'm 61 and in pretty good shape. Getting winded isn't so much of a problem, but breaking a sweat walking up that mother fucking hill sucks.

Anyway, as soon as we showed up at the pool at the Mansion, I lad eyes on Bella Katerine, a tall black girl with long straight hair midway down her back. Great teeth, great smile, great attitude. What a mistake!

Since Bella on Wednesday, the next two, Angie on Wednesday night, and Jessica on Thursday afternoon, were somewhat of a let down. Bella says she's an English major at the University and said she was interested in a TLN. Unfortunately, Bella addressed all of my initial and immediate needs in a relatively brief amount of time. Wow!

After that session, my buddy and I headed down to Restaurante La Basilica in Parque LLeras. This exchange rate is almost too good to be true. The most expensive thing on the menu, that which I ordered, was about $13. A huge plate filled with steak, crispy pork, sausage, French fries and other stuff that I can't remember. I could only eat about 1/3 of it.

After dinner, we walked around the adjoining streets. I was really surprised at how many people were out on a Wednesday night. Upon strolling through the park itself across from La Basilica, we were approached by a cute 21 year old. Had Bella not already drained me, I would have had some mild interest. Instead, we headed back to Mansion where I met Angie.

Angie is a tiny little girl who says that she works in a spa. She has short frosted hair and is really sweet. She gave me a good massage and the rest of the time was pretty good too. But not like Bella!

I had big plans for doing some touristy things on Thursday but my buddy was on his 2nd day with Claudia. I thinks she said she was like 35 years old or something. She looked pretty good to me as well but not enough for more than one experience. I can't even remember what I did for most of yesterday until I went back to the Mansion late yesterday afternoon. At that point, I saw Luna. Wow! What a body! What a hot piece of ass! It was late afternoon and I'd been walking up and down that fucking hill all day and really wanted a shower. I figured if Luna was still there when I got back, I might take her for a spin.

When I got back, there she was. I suppose it was obvious to her that I was interested. Before I knew it, this 24 year old bombshell was kissing me and rubbing me and I was helpless. After hanging around La Cueva for a couple of hours, we headed back to the Castillo, in a taxi of course. Sorry, Bella. You fell to #2.

Luna says she never goes to a gym, but I swear you could bounce a ping pong ball off of her tiny, tight waist. Feigning an interest in pleasing her, I gave her a back massage. Although she seemed to enjoy the back rub, I loved expanding my reach from her shoulders to the backs of her knees. She has a perfect tight and shapely ass.

The BBBJ was amazing. While I'm laying back and occasionally making eye contact with her as I leaned forward to watch, I wondered, "is this really happening"? During the main event, she did something that I had never experienced before. When she sensed that I was ready to explode, she reached up with her hand and covered my mouth and squeezed my nostrils as if to indicate that she was close too and wasn't ready for me to pop. What a sensation! Boyah!

This may be difficult to believe, but when I woke up today, I had no interest in sex. My buddy and I took the Turibus tour from Parque Poblado around Medellin. When the bus stopped at Parque Berrio, I knew that we were fairly close to New Life so I suggested that we check it out before we got back on this Hop On, Hop Off tour. By the way, the ticket is 35,000 pesos, about $11, and is valid for 24 hours.

After walking for a while, we hailed down a cab for the rest of the trip to New Life. I don't think either one of us were terribly motivated, but nonetheless sat there while the 8 or so candidates came by and introduced themselves. Melanie was the only one among them that interested me. The rest of them were a little bigger than I care for. However, Luna and her smother technique had given me at least an 18 hour fix. We headed back to Parque Berrio, hopped on the Turibus and finished the tour. Actually, when I recognized the Casino from the bus across the street from the Ktronics building that sits in front of the Mansion, and since we were stuck in afternoon traffic, I told my buddy, fuck it, let's get off and walk.

I took him through the Oviedo Mall and then we headed back up to the Mansion. I was surprised by how many girls were already out by the pool at 4:00 pm. Headed back up that fucking hill to Castillo for a shower and a little break before heading back down to the Mansion.

Tomorrow, we plan to jump on the Metro Linea A, head up to Acevedo station, get on the metro cables, and head up to Santa Helena. I did that by myself a year and half ago and had a blast. I've never met the author and have no financial interest in his book, but if you've never been to MDE, I recommend a book by Jaime Johnson called Medellin and Beyond. One can only engage in mongering for so long. This book is full of other things to do while you're here.

I will add to this trip report tomorrow!

[BlueChange]

John is a good guy, and has good info. He doesn't push anyone to see anyone specific. So I don't think he is pimping.

Plus I think most guys max for TLN is 300.

So I been to Del Rey Costa Rica and now will be going Medellin next month, Nov.

My type is the pornstar Esperanza Gomez type girls. Or model types.

Well they are available in Medellin, but from research seems like the cost for Short Time can be like.

$170 USD to $250 USD and TLN, who knows.

Without knowing how their performance is, I think to get the most out of my money is go with some pretty girls at some decent prices and that is enough to.

Enjoy Medellin and realize for the quality and price it's much better than Del Rey, Costa Rica.

Some model girls:

https://www.facebook.com/caritovelezarango?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=589610618Dude the Esperanza Gomez types are all OVER the fucking place. Almost too much it seems! It really doesn't make any sense at all. You almost get sick of them and try to find something "todo naturale" Seriously I think everytime I went to Energy there was at least always two of those types there.

I'll tell you this, that lust for the "model type" is there. However as you experience more and more you find that most of them don't really have that great chemistry you really want. You find that the person they are most attarcted to is themselfs.

Once you go thru the phase of the "perfect 10" models, do yourself a favor and get a Solid 7 or a soft 8. If you guys connect and the vibe is right, you can have someone who will make you feel like they REALLY love you. Careful becase its like Oclus riff for your big stiff!!

Good luck homie.

[Mr Gogo]

Dude the Esperanza Gomez types are all OVER the fucking place. Almost too much it seems!

I'll tell you this, that lust for the "model type" is there. However as you experience more and more you find that most of them don't really have that great chemistry you really want. You find that the person they are most attarcted to is themselfs.

Once you go thru the phase of the "perfect 10" models, do yourself a favor and get a Solid 7 or a soft 8. If you guys connect and the vibe is right, you can have someone who will make you feel like they REALLY love you. Careful becase its like Oclus riff for your big stiff!!

Good luck homie.Great post Sir. That average looking girl in the corner that nobody pays attention to will probably be more appreciative and giving to your experience. Attitude tops looks nowadays for me. The key is to put them on your time, if they are patient and act like they are just happy to be with you then you probably have a winner. If she is rushing, always on the phone or asking you to buy shit pass on it.

[John]

Good of you to mention this. I am not pushing you to ask information from me. I may be egoistical yes that is for sure possible, but I ain't cheap to ask girls for kick backs. Those of you don't know me please stop commenting all this BS as you have no basis for this. I have no intention of justifying my help to other mongers.

On a side note. I would like to see some other members here you are willing to share some good intel. Please just stop talking all the Bullshit and come up front and let other board member benefit from your own finds. All those guys who believe they have it all good and pay less for good looking girls I would like to see what you are willing to help others with. You are just talking the talk. No body here wants to help others but just say oh prices are 100 mil pesos for 1 to 2 HR or even less. Stop talking and help others.

John.


John.

So you'd like to "help guys that are willing to spend a bit more money." That's awfully nice of you. And they should expect to pay 400-500 mil (or is it million?) for the privilege of meeting your acquaintances. How much of it do the girls give you?

I think any half-way intelligent board member can see that you are the one trying to pimp.

I'm not worried about Colombia Jake. He at least is selling rooms, which seems a good option for the first-time visitor that doesn't want to stay at the Mansion. Yeah, his posts get old, but he is running a legitimate business.

[TroyBoy]

John.

So you'd like to "help guys that are willing to spend a bit more money." That's awfully nice of you. And they should expect to pay 400-500 mil (or is it million?) for the privilege of meeting your acquaintances. How much of it do the girls give you?

I think any half-way intelligent board member can see that you are the one trying to pimp.

I'm not worried about Colombia Jake. He at least is selling rooms, which seems a good option for the first-time visitor that doesn't want to stay at the Mansion. Yeah, his posts get old, but he is running a legitimate business.I think you owe John an apology. John and my paths have crossed a number of times. We do not know each other well, but I can assure you he is not taking any cut from his referrals.

What he does probably get for his efforts to help is an uncuantifiable improved bond with his main squeezes and other mongers. KARMA "what goes around, comes around" Tit for Tat-- Ithink you get the idea.

Others have spoke out in John's defense. Add me to the list also.

[TroyBoy]

John.

So you'd like to "help guys that are willing to spend a bit more money." That's awfully nice of you. And they should expect to pay 400-500 mil (or is it million?) for the privilege of meeting your acquaintances. How much of it do the girls give you?

I think any half-way intelligent board member can see that you are the one trying to pimp.

I'm not worried about Colombia Jake. He at least is selling rooms, which seems a good option for the first-time visitor that doesn't want to stay at the Mansion. Yeah, his posts get old, but he is running a legitimate business.I think you owe John an apology. John and my paths have crossed a number of times. We do not know each other well, but I can assure you he is not taking any cut from his referrals.

I suspect the chicas he will provide info on he has already become somewhat tired of. ("maybe she will appreciate his efforts and introduce him to her younger cousin new to the game"-- good strategy.) SOooooo--What he does probably get for his efforts to help is an uncuantifiable improved bond with his main squeezes and other mongers. KARMA "what goes around, comes around" Tit for Tat-- I think you get the idea.

Others have spoke out in John's defense. Add me to the list also.

[Dollar Bill]

I think you owe John an apology. John and my paths have crossed a number of times. We do not know each other well, but I can assure you he is not taking any cut from his referrals.

I suspect the chicas he will provide info on he has already become somewhat tired of. ("maybe she will appreciate his efforts and introduce him to her younger cousin new to the game"-- good strategy.) SOooooo--What he does probably get for his efforts to help is an uncuantifiable improved bond with his main squeezes and other mongers. KARMA "what goes around, comes around" Tit for Tat-- I think you get the idea.

Others have spoke out in John's defense. Add me to the list also.John has connected me with a few VERY beautiful sweet young ladies. The women I have been seeing want 200 K but that is for 2 hours in my apartment where they have been 100% GFE.

I went to Abydos a few times and it costs 150 K for 1 hour + taxis. The sex at Abydos with Sophia was fantastic and although she is very friendly, it was nothing like having friends of John in my apartment where we can have a drink, get to know each other and then it goes from there.

Those of us that are visiting this city are not going to ruin the market. There are just too many girls here that need cash.

How many of us have gone to a casino and lost much more than 200 K in way less time and did not ever get the memories that these girls give us. It might be some extra money compared to the SW or chicas de Mayorista but isn't it worth it getting a session that takes your breath away and you get to keep those memories with you for long after you leave here?

John. I have thanked you privately many times for your help but I am here to thank you publicly.

$Bill.

[GrownMan1]

Great post Sir. That average looking girl in the corner that nobody pays attention to will probably be more appreciative and giving to your experience. Attitude tops looks nowadays for me. The key is to put them on your time, if they are patient and act like they are just happy to be with you then you probably have a winner.We call these chicas Sleepers. Mr. G caught a good one in Sosua last month.

[GrownMan1]

IF you are running a business you are trying to make MONEY. Providing rooms, giving free info / advice, introducing clients to chicas for business / personal relations and a public or private advertisement of service is all apart of doing BUSINESS. Anyone who thinks its just for "the mongering brotherhood" is not paying attention to the Business cards. I wish Jake much success.

[Black Page]

The cambio on the arrival level of the airport were selling 2600 pesos per dollar. We went upstairs and got 2,780 pesos per dollar from another cambio. Go figure. To all the veterans, I know that one can get a better exchange rate from an ATM but I consciously chose to buy a couple of hundred dollars worth of pesos so that I wouldn't have to go looking for an ATM upon arrival at the hotel.
Why not take advantage of the ATM in the airport? :D

[Member #4348]

Why not take advantage of the ATM in the airport? :DI wasn't that smart this time. Thanks for the "heads up" for my next trip.

[Member #4348]

After a so-so experience with Paola, another Mansion chica who claims to be a 20 year old nursing student (black, great bolt ONS), we called it an early night and planned for a non-mongering trip today.

After breakfast, we headed out, caught a taxi to Estacion Poblado Metro Station, took the metro to Acevedo, transferred to the metrocables up to Santo Domingo, and then on the ARVI metrocables up to Santa Elena. After sampling some great street food, papa rellenos and arepa con queso with cafe con leche, we jumped on the free Chiva bus and went to Piedra Blanca park. Had nice conversation with a couple of different families and thoroughly enjoyed the day.

Stopped by the Mansion on the way back to Castillo and booked Alexandra and Olga for an early morning massage for tomorrow. Pool area was brimming with talent that was new to me. Robert and Boyd must book our guests in such a way as to have fresh faces almost every day.

Headed down to Patrick's Sports Bar in Parque LLeras and caught a little college football before those two sweet girls there told us that they had to stop serving alcohol due to the election tomorrow. Surely, La Cueva won't participate in that Colombian way of doing business!

I'm looking forward to another night in Paradise. With so many beautiful babes to choose from, so many wonderful and fun non-mongering activities to do, and such beautiful weather, I really don't understand why so many people use this forum for pissing, moaning, whining, and bitching. For anyone who is hesitant to ask questions for fear of ridicule from other members for not reading through thousands of pages of bullshit to find a few nuggets of information, feel free post any questions you have and I'll be happy to offer what I've learned in my limited experience.

By the way, notwithstanding the fucking hill, the Castillo is starting to grow on me. The staff is great and you really can get a good night's sleep up here. I guess I've learned over the last few days, that I can avoid the sweat I work up while walking up the hill for less than a two dollar cab ride. As I use to read in the posts from another member whose name I can not recall, "only good energy" my friends.

[Lmarcone]

Why not take advantage of the ATM in the airport? :DThere is a battery of ATM's in the lower level of the airport. It's OK- you won't get kidnapped!

[Old Parr]

IF you are running a business you are trying to make MONEY. Providing rooms, giving free info / advice, introducing clients to chicas for business / personal relations and a public or private advertisement of service is all apart of doing BUSINESS. Anyone who thinks its just for "the mongering brotherhood" is not paying attention to the Business cards. I wish Jake much success.Very true but then he should be posting on the appropriate thread which is dedicated to him, not spamming the Medellin thread promoting his business, as this thread is for trip reports and discussions.

[SavePros321]

IF you are running a business you are trying to make MONEY. Providing rooms, giving free info / advice, introducing clients to chicas for business / personal relations and a public or private advertisement of service is all apart of doing BUSINESS. Anyone who thinks its just for "the mongering brotherhood" is not paying attention to the Business cards. I wish Jake much success.Reall pimp shit right there, LOL. Nice one GM.

[Socker]

After a so-so experience with Paola, another Mansion chica who claims to be a 20 year old nursing student (black, great bolt ONS), we called it an early night and planned for a non-mongering trip today.

After breakfast, we headed out, caught a taxi to Estacion Poblado Metro Station, took the metro to Acevedo, transferred to the metrocables up to Santo Domingo, and then on the ARVI metrocables up to Santa Elena. After sampling some great street food, papa rellenos and arepa con queso with cafe con leche, we jumped on the free Chiva bus and went to Piedra Blanca park. Had nice conversation with a couple of different families and thoroughly enjoyed the day.

Stopped by the Mansion on the way back to Castillo and booked Alexandra and Olga for an early morning massage for tomorrow. Pool area was brimming with talent that was new to me. Robert and Boyd must book our guests in such a way as to have fresh faces almost every day.

Headed down to Patrick's Sports Bar in Parque LLeras and caught a little college football before those two sweet girls there told us that they had to stop serving alcohol due to the election tomorrow. Surely, La Cueva won't participate in that Colombian way of doing business!.Thanks for the solid info, sounds like you know what you're doing. It's good to hear about the talent at the mansion as I will be there later this year. As for the walk up the hill I don't give it any thought, it is what it is. It is a ***** though. The uphill March to a better life w / 2 pals.

[Vitrea]

Combo, I like your posts and complimented you in the past. I think you are a good guy and contribute to the board and forum. In this case though, you are clearly misunderstanding John. I know him personally and he is great guy. He is extremely helpful to other mongers. He does focus on quality and like me he does not mind paying. All he is saying is don't be cheap and expect high quality.

Sometimes posts come across brash and it is hard to judge a person by their posts.

Would you believe if I told you that Old Parr is a wonderful guy. He is super helpful and fun. I know that because I know him but you won't get that from his posts. Ha ha. (And he has sense of humor).


John.

So you'd like to "help guys that are willing to spend a bit more money." That's awfully nice of you. And they should expect to pay 400-500 mil (or is it million?) for the privilege of meeting your acquaintances. How much of it do the girls give you?

I think any half-way intelligent board member can see that you are the one trying to pimp.

I'm not worried about Colombia Jake. He at least is selling rooms, which seems a good option for the first-time visitor that doesn't want to stay at the Mansion. Yeah, his posts get old, but he is running a legitimate business.

[Puntz79]

Does anyone know if all bars, casas, MPs, clubs are closed today? It's Election Day, liquor sales stopped last night and is supposed to last until Monday morning from my understanding. Not sure if they would be closed or if it's just a slower Sunday than usual.

[Combo]

Combo, I like your posts and complimented you in the past. I think you are a good guy and contribute to the board and forum. In this case though, you are clearly misunderstanding John. I know him personally and he is great guy. He is extremely helpful to other mongers. He does focus on quality and like me he does not mind paying. All he is saying is don't be cheap and expect high quality.

Sometimes posts come across brash and it is hard to judge a person by their posts.

Would you believe if I told you that Old Parr is a wonderful guy. He is super helpful and fun. I know that because I know him but you won't get that from his posts. Ha ha. (And he has sense of humor).It's certainly possible I misunderstand him. I don't know him and he may be a hell of a good guy. My point is this: A guy comes on here and says he has special girls for us guys (that he doesn't even know). But we'll have to be real generous with these girls. What does a logical person think of this?

Again I could be totally mistaken.

[SlamCity7777]

There is a battery of ATM's in the lower level of the airport. It's OK- you won't get kidnapped!Where? When you walk out of the customs and then there is the waiting area and then the tigo wall, the snack stands and keep walking forward?

I get up to the snack shacks and go up stairs. The green ATM (forget the name) you can do 780 mil in one pop and they charge 8,400 so call it $3. I think the casa de cambio inside immigration and the one up stairs are usually are better than the ones in Mede but I don't like to waist the time in line (rare) or dealing with the guy. ATM for me as I usually have a date to keep.

[Jll600]

I don't post much but I do agree with John. I know him personally as a true stand up guy and have certainly benefited from his camaraderie and friendship. I count him as a close friend and confidant. We have traveled together in Colombia and stayed together many times. MDE is what you make of it. I was introduced to Medellin via the ISG and then the Mansion where I met John. I decided that I wanted to go deeper than what the Mansion offers but I am grateful for the safety and familiarity that it offered me as a newbie. I have been seeing it totally differently though each trip / experience and it has rewarded me by my relationships with mongers, and also Colombians (both in USA as well as Colombia). If you wish to get a deep and fun experience you can follow some basic rules that I learned from John. First, learn some freaking Spanish! Its an incredibly easy language and there are so many resources to learn it from. Next, treat the girls with respect but also don't tolerate bullshit at all. At the first sign of drama or BS or anything weird, it is time for you to bail out. Pay her the taxi money and call another girl. It doesn't matter what time it is. There is always a nice hot girl who is willing to come over to replace the bullshit one you just sent packing. Next, be willing to pay for quality of girl and experience. Don't over pay but don't be cheap. I know for a FACT that John's referrals are just that. Referrals and the only thing expected in return is mutual respect and friendship. A 10 is going to cost more. That's a fact. But really. Who can even talk about cost when it comes to the small amount of money it costs to have a great time in MDE. Finally, respect your fellow monger and be willing to take and give advice, information, referrals etc. I have had some of the most incredible experiences in MDE, things that I couldn't even imagine, perhaps scarring me (in a good way) for life. I can anticipate a time in the future where the MDE that we know now may be a distant memory but I intend to enjoy it to the fullest now because it is a truly unusual and amazing place right now.

My two pesos. Stay horny brothers.

[Lmarcone]

Sorry Slam, upper level. Midway between the International departures on the left (as you enter) and the Domistic departutes on the right-hand side. Sorry- there isn't much downstairs level Arrivals Gate.


Where? When you walk out of the customs and then there is the waiting area and then the tigo wall, the snack stands and keep walking forward?

I get up to the snack shacks and go up stairs. The green ATM (forget the name) you can do 780 mil in one pop and they charge 8,400 so call it $3. I think the casa de cambio inside immigration and the one up stairs are usually are better than the ones in Mede but I don't like to waist the time in line (rare) or dealing with the guy. ATM for me as I usually have a date to keep.

[Exoticspirit]

By the way, notwithstanding the fucking hill, the Castillo is starting to grow on me. The staff is great and you really can get a good night's sleep up here. I guess I've learned over the last few days, that I can avoid the sweat I work up while walking up the hill for less than a two dollar cab ride. As I use to read in the posts from another member whose name I can not recall, "only good energy" my friends.Just to confirm, is the Castillo = M2 of the mansion?

[Combo]

Just to confirm, is the Castillo = M2 of the mansion?Yes it is. And think of how many calories you burn walking up that hill 2-3 times a day. And of course boning a couple Paisas. I can't think of a better exercise regimen.

[Exoticspirit]

Yes it is. And think of how many calories you burn walking up that hill 2-3 times a day. And of course boning a couple Paisas. I can't think of a better exercise regimen.Not a bad idea since the regional cuisine is not exactly low calorie! Wish I could find a video or photo of this hill.

[Legal Tender]

Pool area was brimming with talent that was new to me. Robert and Boyd must book our guests in such a way as to have fresh faces almost every day.I haven't read anything about Greg. What's his status?

[Puntz79]

Sorry Slam, upper level. Midway between the International departures on the left (as you enter) and the Domistic departutes on the right-hand side. Sorry- there isn't much downstairs level Arrivals Gate.There is an ATM now right outside domestic arrivals / baggage claim. It must have been installed over the last month or two months at most, since I don't recall it being there in August. Right as you get out of baggage claim, it's very visible. The green ATM that allows for larger transaction withdrawls is the Servibanca ATM.

[Member #4348]

My buddy and I started Sunday at 8:00 am with early morning massages at the Castillo / M-2 provided by Olga and Alexandra. I recommended Olga for him (had her once before. Amazing) and this was my second time with Alexandra. She's had some nice, soft implants installed since last year and they really go well with her sweet personality. The 150,000 pesos ($50) that I paid for a therapeutic massage followed by a nice HJ in an unrushed session got my day off to a good start. My buddy also came out of his room with a big smile.

We then headed off in a taxi to Sabeneta to do some people watching and taste some street food. I felt a little guilty sitting at a table at a nearby restaurant watching the locals in standing room only outside of the church listening to a sermon. That was a nice way to spend an hour or so. Everyone seemed happy down there.

After heading back up to the Castillo (and by the way, I may have exaggerated a little about the hill. It's not like mountain climbing or anything like that. Just imagine walking up to Row 50 in an SEC football stadium), we headed over to the new Tesoro Mall (Centro Comercial El Tesoro), just a 10 minute cab ride from the Castillo. Man, this place reminds me of Beverly Hills! There is an area near the Crepes & Waffles Restaurant where you can look out over most of the valley. Even on a somewhat rainy day, the view is still spectacular. The view inside is pretty spectacular as well. Some of the higher strata soccer moms that we saw were awesome.

After a shower, we headed down to the Mansion anticipating that there was going to be a Sunday afternoon cookout. We must have missed it but at 4:00, there were several girls out by the pool. Most of the guys were sitting in La Cueva watching a football game. I didn't come here to watch football!

Somehow, the best was saved for last for me. One of the girls whom I had seen earlier in the week brought a friend who had never been to the Mansion or to the Castillo before. In fact, I'm convinced that she had never been paid before. She was 22, long frosted hair, all natural except for the braces. A sweetheart.

She works Monday through Saturday at a clothing warehouse in Laureles, attends the University 2 or 3 days per week, and generally spends time with her 6 year old daughter on Sundays. I guess after seeing her work her ass off for so long, her friend decided to show her that there was an easier way to make ends meet.

After spending some time with a fellow monger and the chicas by the pool, my buddy headed back to Castillo with Jessica. Spent some time with her earlier in the week and she was nice. The other guy and I treated the girls to some pizza. Thanks Dominos! Pizza for 5 or 6 delivered for $13! I love this exchange rate.

Eventually, the other guy and I shared a cab ride up to the Castillo with his girl, Angie, and mine, Cindy. I could tell that Cindy was uncomfortable initially. She swore to me, and the staff at the Castillo confirmed that she had never been up here. I figured that if I handled this correctly, it would work out well and it did in a big way.

I assured her that I was not going to harm her in any way or move any quicker than she was comfortable with. We listened to some music on TV, cuddled some, and I pulled out some flash cards in English and Spanish so that we could practice together. That was a good ice breaker. After a while, she was smiling and laughing and appeared to be relaxed.

Eventually, we took a nice warm shower together and then I gave her a long back rub before she turned over and we began to kiss. She was as sweet as sugar. She never seemed concerned about time or money. She genuinely appeared to be enjoying herself as much as I was. We never even looked at the time until it was nearly midnight. By then, we had been together for several hours.

Although I will keep the details to myself, she stayed with me until 4:00 am. We set an alarm on my phone so that she could get up, get a shower, go home, and change clothes and get to work by 6:00 am. Before I paid her anything for her time, I asked her how much it would cost for a cab to where she lives. I gave her more than she asked for because she was truthful. I had no indication that she had any expectation as far as payment for her services. I'm convinced that she was brand new at this. I know that some guys will jump on my ass for this but I gave her 300,000 pesos /$100. She was thrilled and believe me, I got my money's worth and then some.

I also went downstairs and gave Amada, one of the ladies who work here and made my breakfast and cleaned my room every day, a 50,000 peso tip. She was thrilled and gave me a big hug. I did that last year when I stayed at the Mansion and when we arrived this year, Flo and Lilliana called me by my first name. Either Robert or Boyd have trained them well or they simply understand how much guests appreciate good service.

I can't remember ever having such a good time in 5 days. I will be back! Hope this trip report will be useful to someone thinking about coming to MDE for the first time!

[ColombiaLover]

Greg is still around. I saw him two or three times on my last six trips this year. WHen he's around, he's usually at the Castillo. He travels a lot watching cricket, etc. He kind of keeps to himself. It seems like his hard party days are over.

I always got along well with Greg and like him. He always treats me very nice when he sees me and is quick to give a referral. He had a stunning young blonde with him one day. I still kick myself that I did not take her myself.


I haven't read anything about Greg. What's his status?

[Colombia Jake]

Combo, I like your posts and complimented you in the past. I think you are a good guy and contribute to the board and forum. In this case though, you are clearly misunderstanding John. I know him personally and he is great guy. He is extremely helpful to other mongers. He does focus on quality and like me he does not mind paying. All he is saying is don't be cheap and expect high quality.

Sometimes posts come across brash and it is hard to judge a person by their posts.

Would you believe if I told you that Old Parr is a wonderful guy. He is super helpful and fun. I know that because I know him but you won't get that from his posts. Ha ha. (And he has sense of humor).Hey wait a minute here this guy John started the whole thing with his post calling me out for selling rooms and trying to turn that into pimping for god sakes! Combo simply called him out by saying he's doesn't seem to be selling anything except ladies, which no one has shone to be wrong unless he's a great guy is ampal explanation! Why should Combo have to apologize? A Spades a Spade! Just trying to catch up after all those mansion posts, Up the hill or down the hill? Got day tours and night tours going tomorrow! Really good reviews on Mellisa pictured below, not only looking like a cheerleader but really good attention to the clientes and good service!

Thanks,

Colombia Jake.

[SlamCity7777]

There is an ATM now right outside domestic arrivals / baggage claim. It must have been installed over the last month or two months at most, since I don't recall it being there in August. Right as you get out of baggage claim, it's very visible. The green ATM that allows for larger transaction withdrawls is the Servibanca ATM.This some OG level shit right here!! Hahahaha!! You know it next level shit when we're discussing the fucking air port lay out and ATM location and we can see it all perfectly in our minds eye'.

Hahahah!!

Re recap for the Youngbloods: Once you clear customs and walk out the big double doors, big meeting areas (roped off), past the Tigo charge wall, The snack stands, pass all that then there is a stair case and maybe elevator too I'm not sure, right up them bad boys behind you will be 2 or 3 ATM (the Green one gives 780 mil a pop) and then there might be one on the ground floor just keep on walking*.

Been reported but not a confirmed kill.

Look at that! Useful info on ISG? With no name calling or drama? Miracles do happen! Hahahaha.

[OralSkillz]

I haven't read anything about Greg. What's his status?I was there in early August and he was there. Between the 3 owners, he was the only one that remembered me from my previous visits. A few times in 05 when there was only M. Then last time in M2 in 07.

Surprisingly sharp memory for an old man. Jejeje.

[The Tall Man]

I don't recall, can you purchase Viagra over the counter at a Medellin pharmacy? Whats the cost per 100 MG? How about generic?

Any recent experiences.

The Tall Man.

[Puntz79]

Yes. You can get Viagra or Sidenafil, both over the counter. Generic tends to be cheaper as always. I forget the cost but I want to say around 10 or 20,000 COP per 100 MG. I have purchased from the pharmacy at any Carulla.


I don't recall, can you purchase Viagra over the counter at a Medellin pharmacy? Whats the cost per 100 MG? How about generic?

Any recent experiences.

The Tall Man.

[Charm City Dave]

http://www.alldaychemist.com They ship all over the world including the US. Someone recommended them years ago on some forum here on ISG. I have no interest in their business LOL.

Their products are made in India by major Indian pharmaceutical companies and I have always found them to work well.

This is a good V generic and costs a little less than $1 for 100 mgs.

http://www.alldaychemist.com/manly.html

This is the C generic I use now.

http://www.alldaychemist.com/ceebis.html

On the Ceebis you have to send them a note telling them you will not consume it in the USA, but that doesn't stop them from shipping it here.

Also less than $1 per 20 MG pill. I cut the see into quarters and just take the 5 MG daily dose. Usually all I need. If I'm going to try a Marathon, I might add a quarter fo a V to it 25 mgs and I'm good to take on the Swedish bikini team.

Shipping can be up to $25 but then now have a promotion with free shipping on orders over $250 and $15 shipping under $250. I've also gotten generic antibiotics from them that seemed to work well too.

I have probably placed 6 or seven orders for them over the years (I buy a years supply at at time) and it has always gotten through US customs with no problems. I think on their web site is says if it does get pinched in customs they will re-send. They label the package right on the outside with a label saying medication for personal use.

I prefer to arrive at my destination with this in hand, so I don't need to run around to local pharmacies and take chances getting inferior or counterfeit products.

[Big Johnson2]

I am planning on coming to MDE soon. I have traveled to other countries. I do not speak Spanish. How much problem am I going to have in getting around? How dangerous is it? Are the taxis safe?

A friend mentioned Luna Lunera at night and for the day to go to New Life and casas. Are these two areas safe for a single traveler? Do these places have more gringos or local customers? Do you have any other suggestions of places that you highly recommend?

Are there any freelance bars? Are there bars where the girls go home with you? What is the hotel policy about bringing girls back to your room? Do you have to have a room for two? Do they take the girls ID?

Thank you for any information you can provide.

[Old Parr]

I am planning on coming to MDE soon. I have traveled to other countries. I do not speak Spanish. How much problem am I going to have in getting around? How dangerous is it? Are the taxis safe?

A friend mentioned Luna Lunera at night and for the day to go to New Life and casas. Are these two areas safe for a single traveler? Do these places have more gringos or local customers? Do you have any other suggestions of places that you highly recommend?

Are there any freelance bars? Are there bars where the girls go home with you? What is the hotel policy about bringing girls back to your room? Do you have to have a room for two? Do they take the girls ID?

Thank you for any information you can provide.1). You are going to have a major problem as the city is extremely dangerous especially for gringos, and for non Spanish speakers.

2). Taxi drivers have a reputation for ripping non speaking Spanish speakers off, and also are known to kidnap gringos until a ransom is paid, or they will take them to the most dangerous area in the city and drop you off.

3). Casas are a good choice but they are in a very dangerous area. You would be a fool to go there by yourself.

4). These places have 99 percent more local customers, and you have to be aware of the local customers robbing or kidnapping you when you leave, so be extremely careful.

5). Other places I would recommend would be staying at the Mansion or whatever it is called these days, and going to the bar on the premises, La Cueva, and hanging out with the old men who generally frequent the place, and who can offer you good advice, introduce girls to you, and where you can have a conversation in english.

6). Freelance bars I would highly recommend is Help of Medellin, LDV of Laureles, and Tequila Rocks of Parque Lleras. The thing to be aware of if you go to these freelance places is that the girls are known to use scopolamine on there clients. I will post at the end of my post, a story on this particular drug.

7). Yes these freelance bars the girls will go home with you, but also know that they might set you up to be robbed when you are in your room by using the drug I mentioned, or by calling a friend to come over, and at a set time they will open up your door to let them in. Another thing you have to be aware of is these girls that work in these freelance bars, or the girls that work the street, have police officer friends, and they will call them and tell them you tried to sexually assault them, so this friend will come to your hotel room, and take you into custody if you do not produce a large amount of money.

8). Yes I would highly recommend you book a room for two. Some take the identification of the of the girl and some do not.

9). For additional information read the Medellin forum, or contact my good friend Vitrea who loves helping new comers to Medellin, and who is more than willing to be your guide free of charge if he is in the city. You can find him by reading thread or by doing a name search here on the ISG.

10). Good luck to you and be safe.

The most dangerous drug in the world: 'Devil's Breath' chemical from Colombia can block free will, wipe memory and even kill.

Scopolamine often blown into faces of victims or added to drinks.

Within minutes, victims are like 'zombies' - coherent, but with no free will.

Some victims report emptying bank accounts to robbers or helping them pillage own house.

Drug is made from borrachero tree, which is common in Colombia.

A hazardous drug that eliminates free will and can wipe the memory of its victims is currently being dealt on the streets of Colombia.

The drug is called scopolamine, but is colloquially known as 'The Devil's Breath,' and is derived from a particular type of tree common to South America.

Stories surrounding the drug are include how people were raped, forced to empty their bank accounts, and even coerced into giving up an organ.

[TellAll]

I am planning on coming to MDE soon. I have traveled to other countries. I do not speak Spanish. How much problem am I going to have in getting around? How dangerous is it? Are the taxis safe?

A friend mentioned Luna Lunera at night and for the day to go to New Life and casas. Are these two areas safe for a single traveler? Do these places have more gringos or local customers? Do you have any other suggestions of places that you highly recommend?

Are there any freelance bars? Are there bars where the girls go home with you? What is the hotel policy about bringing girls back to your room? Do you have to have a room for two? Do they take the girls ID?

Thank you for any information you can provide.You may be better off staying at the Mansion or with Jake. It may cost a little more but most of the issues you have concerns about would be handled. A Newbie with no spanish in Medellin, those places are made for.

[Gannaton48]

You may be better off staying at the Mansion or with Jake. It may cost a little more but most of the issues you have concerns about would be handled. A Newbie with no spanish in Medellin, those places are made for.I will also be in MDE within 10 days from now. Can somebody tell me about a casa in which I can for sure get BBBJ?

[Vitrea]

I don't recall, can you purchase Viagra over the counter at a Medellin pharmacy? Whats the cost per 100 MG? How about generic?

Any recent experiences.

The Tall Man.I purchased a months supply today in the pharmacy in Santa Fe mall; 100 MG 7200 cop. Generic of course. Works well. 👍.

[Black Page]

I am planning on coming to MDE soon. I have traveled to other countries. I do not speak Spanish. How much problem am I going to have in getting around? How dangerous is it? Are the taxis safe?
A friend mentioned Luna Lunera at night and for the day to go to New Life and casas. Are these two areas safe for a single traveler? Do these places have more gringos or local customers? Do you have any other suggestions of places that you highly recommend?
Are there any freelance bars? Are there bars where the girls go home with you? What is the hotel policy about bringing girls back to your room? Do you have to have a room for two? Do they take the girls ID?
Thank you for any information you can provide.
If you go to MDE just for mongering (which is weird, IMHO! I am afraid you have no other option than staying in a gringo-oriented place like Mansion. They will guide and take care of you and you will be with gringos having the same goal as you. Easy and safe.

If you go to MDE for work, but you want to take your time to relax too, you should do as I did the first time:
1) spend some hours reading duly this thread (warning: real reports are lost in chit-chat), or better just the RoD. Yes, RTFF before asking "what can I do here?
2) go around to explore slowly when you have time, without wanting to do everything in few days, without asking too much to yourself (e. G. , if you don't speak Spanish, your chances to go around and "survive" alone are minimal)).
You might limit yourself to high-level clubs as Fase II or La Isla (but if you don't speak Spanish, I don't know what you do once sitting at a table in company of a girl).

For other specific questions, why don't you make the effort to read, before expecting others make the effort to write what has been written many times already?

I do not speak Spanish. How much problem am I going to have in getting around?
You will be lonely and with unpassable communication barrier. Imagine a French guy in El Paso.

How dangerous is it? Are the taxis safe?
It's dangerous as soon as you go where you should not go, you show you are tourist, you show money, etc. Taxis are safe. Stick to Parque Lleras or get information in advance about the place.

A friend mentioned Luna Lunera at night and for the day to go to New Life and casas. Are these two areas safe for a single traveler? Do these places have more gringos or local customers? Do you have any other suggestions of places that you highly recommend?
They are totally safe, but if you don't speak Spanish I don't know how much fun you could have.
Ah, I forgot: RTFF.

Are there any freelance bars? Are there bars where the girls go home with you?
LOL. RTFF.

What is the hotel policy about bringing girls back to your room? Do you have to have a room for two? Do they take the girls ID?
Nearly no upper class hotel will allow guests easily. They will find a way to discourage you (fee). Why don't you RTFF?

[Black Page]

They ship all over the world including the US. Someone recommended them years ago on some forum here on ISG. I have no interest in their business LOL.
Their products are made in India by major Indian pharmaceutical companies and I have always found them to work well.
I prefer to arrive at my destination with this in hand, so I don't need to run around to local pharmacies and take chances getting inferior or counterfeit products.What a lame attempt to advertise a site!

And it would be so silly to buy Indian V from a web site before going to a country (Colombia) where:
- national pharmaceutical industry is reputable and follows high quality standards.
- Sildenafil, Tadalafil etc. Are sold easily over the counter in all farmacies.
- generic Sildenafil is cheap (about 50 cents for 50 MG pill?) and produced by solid local industry, contrary to probably counterfeited made-in-India products.

Welcome to the real world.

[Black Page]

I don't recall, can you purchase Viagra over the counter at a Medellin pharmacy? Whats the cost per 100 MG? How about generic?
Any recent experiences.
The Tall Man.Any farmacy. See my other post about quality. If you buy in quantity, you might want to inquiry a few ones to get the best price.

I usually go to La Rebaja in front to the Parque Poblado, which always offered me better prices and wider choice than the Pasteur in front. I don't say this is the best place. I say: ask in few places before buying many.

Last time I bought 15 boxes 4 x50 MG pills, at a price around 7000 pesos each (I might not remember well, though). In my country, it's not so easy! I prefer Genfar over MK or other generic made-in-Colombia products, for a simple reason: the 4 x50 MG box contains ONE blister including 4 pills, instead of FOUR blisters each carrying one pill. Much more compact and easy to store.

[BoredInIN]

Landed down around 12:30 for my second trip back to Medellion. Customs was a breeze this afternoon and much shorter lines than my last trip. Hit the ATM and took out enough money to get me started. Outside the airport I told one of the guys that was trying to herd me to a taxi "collectivo taxi San Diego" to save a little money, than just grabbed a regular taxi to the room I rented on airbnb close to the Santa Fe mall.

After settling in and getting a needed shower I was itching to get to centro. First stop was conojitas, as it was good early on my last trip. I know the the hot spots change quickly here, either the rain was making for a slow day here or the girls have moved on to a new club. Anyway, hung out for a beer, didn't see anything I wanted for 60-70 mil when I knew the casas were still open. So on to club sexy amigas it was. This place had some great line ups last time as well. Today I noticed a different mamasan and the line up was down a little but I still found one to my liking. Took this young 20 year old to the back for half hour for 35 k. She did hit me up for 20 k for DATY which I don't always do but it was my first time being upsold on this.

Next up I wanted to stop by the coffee shop as I remembered seeing a good review last trip but when I checked it out last trip not much was going on. Walked in and noticed the hostess was cute, so was hoping the line up would be as well. After viewing the line up I thought the hostess was still the best Chica there. To my surprise she was available so I figured why not, it's like $13 American. I wasn't sure how easy this quick of a round 2 would be for me but she did the job.

After only about 2 hours sleep and a day of traveling and 2 nuts I was spent. Decided to stay in and watch some football, get an early night of sleep.

[Charm City Dave]

What a lame attempt to advertise a site!

And it would be so silly to buy Indian V from a web site before going to a country (Colombia) where:
- national pharmaceutical industry is reputable and follows high quality standards.
- Sildenafil, Tadalafil etc. Are sold easily over the counter in all farmacies.
- generic Sildenafil is cheap (about 50 cents for 50 MG pill?) and produced by solid local industry, contrary to probably counterfeited made-in-India products.

Welcome to the real world.Absolutely not. I've been a member of ISG since 2003 with trip reports in many countries. Just trying to be helpful.

[Exoticspirit]

You may be better off staying at the Mansion or with Jake. It may cost a little more but most of the issues you have concerns about would be handled. A Newbie with no spanish in Medellin, those places are made for.The Mansion I can see great for non-Spanish speakers since there should be staff or other guests nearby who can help translate. But with Jake's services where he sends you out with a girl for the night, how would his services be helpful if the girl is likely a non-English speaker and there are no other people around to help translate? I don't imagine Jake is going to be out with us all night in case we need translation help.

[John Gault]

I guess being away from MDE for over a year has gotten me way behind on the delights of the city. With new places like Help of Medellin, LDV of Laureles, and Tequila Rocks of Parque Lleras thing have really improved. I have been to the original Tequila Rock (notice my correct spelling) in Lima, and of course LDV in CTG. Never made it to Help in Rio, but from all accounts it was heaven on earth.

Old Parr again you have proved your worth, and if your old friend Urban W is still alive I 'm sure he would be proud.

[Ricardo Torres]

1). You are going to have a major problem as the city is extremely dangerous especially for gringos, and for non Spanish speakers.

2). Taxi drivers have a reputation for ripping non speaking Spanish speakers off, and also are known to kidnap gringos until a ransom is paid, or they will take them to the most dangerous area in the city and drop you off.

3). Casas are a good choice but they are in a very dangerous area. You would be a fool to go there by yourself.

4). These places have 99 percent more local customers, and you have to be aware of the local customers robbing or kidnapping you when you leave, so be extremely careful.

5). Other places I would recommend would be staying at the Mansion or whatever it is called these days, and going to the bar on the premises, La Cueva, and hanging out with the old men who generally frequent the place, and who can offer you good advice, introduce girls to you, and where you can have a conversation in english.

6). Freelance bars I would highly recommend is Help of Medellin, LDV of Laureles, and Tequila Rocks of Parque Lleras. The thing to be aware of if you go to these freelance places is that the girls are known to use scopolamine on there clients. I will post at the end of my post, a story on this particular drug.

7). Yes these freelance bars the girls will go home with you, but also know that they might set you up to be robbed when you are in your room by using the drug I mentioned, or by calling a friend to come over, and at a set time they will open up your door to let them in. Another thing you have to be aware of is these girls that work in these freelance bars, or the girls that work the street, have police officer friends, and they will call them and tell them you tried to sexually assault them, so this friend will come to your hotel room, and take you into custody if you do not produce a large amount of money.

8). Yes I would highly recommend you book a room for two. Some take the identification of the of the girl and some do not.

9). For additional information read the Medellin forum, or contact my good friend Vitrea who loves helping new comers to Medellin, and who is more than willing to be your guide free of charge if he is in the city. You can find him by reading thread or by doing a name search here on the ISG.

10). Good luck to you and be safe.

The most dangerous drug in the world: 'Devil's Breath' chemical from Colombia can block free will, wipe memory and even kill.

Scopolamine often blown into faces of victims or added to drinks..
I am planning on coming to MDE soon. I have traveled to other countries. I do not speak Spanish. How much problem am I going to have in getting around? How dangerous is it? Are the taxis safe?

A friend mentioned Luna Lunera at night and for the day to go to New Life and casas. Are these two areas safe for a single traveler? Do these places have more gringos or local customers? Do you have any other suggestions of places that you highly recommend?

Are there any freelance bars? Are there bars where the girls go home with you? What is the hotel policy about bringing girls back to your room? Do you have to have a room for two? Do they take the girls ID?

Thank you for any information you can provide.
I guess being away from MDE for over a year has gotten me way behind on the delights of the city. With new places like Help of Medellin, LDV of Laureles, and Tequila Rocks of Parque Lleras thing have really improved. I have been to the original Tequila Rock (notice my correct spelling) in Lima, and of course LDV in CTG. Never made it to Help in Rio, but from all accounts it was heaven on earth.

Old Parr again you have proved your worth, and if your old friend Urban Wildlife is still alive I 'm sure he would be proud.The thing is 99 percent of the questions asked can be found by reading the forum and through the links of distinction like Black Page pointed out. It was also excellent advice given for Big Johnson2 to stay at the places recommended to him, as he will have others to socialize with since he is a non Spanish speaker, and a first time visitor to Medellin.

[Colombia Jake]

The Mansion I can see great for non-Spanish speakers since there should be staff or other guests nearby who can help translate. But with Jake's services where he sends you out with a girl for the night, how would his services be helpful if the girl is likely a non-English speaker and there are no other people around to help translate? I don't imagine Jake is going to be out with us all night in case we need translation help.It never seems to be a problem, everybody either has translation in their cell phones and all the places have WiFi just hand your phone to the server but the real fun is to wing it because most of the girls know some English and its fun to try it for a while without any help. When or if you you need it its as easy as Google translate on your cell or applications now that don't need WiFi but your right, I don't go along on the dates with you, the girls sort of act as your guide so you don't have to worry just have fun!

I heard some gringo who had been taking pictures of the casa girls over a long period of time, got punched out because he published the photos on his site against and without their permission and finally the boyfriends beat him up! Anybody hear about this?

[Black Page]

The Mansion I can see great for non-Spanish speakers since there should be staff or other guests nearby who can help translate. But with Jake's services where he sends you out with a girl for the night, how would his services be helpful if the girl is likely a non-English speaker and there are no other people around to help translate? I don't imagine Jake is going to be out with us all night in case we need translation help.You mean at Mansion the staff is also available to wait out of the door, in case during room activities the guest might need translation? Wow. That's outstanding service.
(poor guys, sent out alone in the night with a girl!)

[SlamCity7777]

Did I see that right or was it a typo (see below) there is a free lance bar "Help Disco" in Mede now?

[Dickhead]

If you don't speak Spanish, then don't take the chicas out on dates. Fuck them and spend time in the room with them. Sitting in a restaurant and handing your phones back and forth using "Google Translate" is not going to be a fun time. Besides, what if she is looking for a "smart gentleman" and it translates as "ready horseman"? Because caballero listo will translate that way. Or "comprometido. " You promise her something and the next you know, she thinks you are engaged to be married. And I bet most non-Spanish speakers don't know how to put in tildes and accent marks so you might ask her how many assholes she has when you are trying to ask her how old she is.

[Surfer500]

You mean at Mansion the staff is also available to wait out of the door, in case during room activities the guest might need translation? Wow. They probably have an intercom within the rooms to provide translator services from the front desk. If an issue came up about whether the BJ was to be covered or not it would be entertaining to listen to the exchange along with everything else that needed to be translated if there actually was an intercom system.

[Exoticspirit]

If you don't speak Spanish, then don't take the chicas out on dates. Fuck them and spend time in the room with them. Sitting in a restaurant and handing your phones back and forth using "Google Translate" is not going to be a fun time. Besides, what if she is looking for a "smart gentleman" and it translates as "ready horseman"? Because caballero listo will translate that way. Or "comprometido. " You promise her something and the next you know, she thinks you are engaged to be married. And I bet most non-Spanish speakers don't know how to put in tildes and accent marks so you might ask her how many assholes she has when you are trying to ask her how old she is.I do see your point. I've been to Cuba, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica and Tijuana -- went with enough extremely basic Spanish to get the deed done, ie. , negotiate, bring girl back to room and when session was over, that was it. I cannot imagine myself spending anymore time than that (as in a night out on the town) without a loss of communication.

But I do appreciate Jake's response though.

[BlueChange]

I guess being away from MDE for over a year has gotten me way behind on the delights of the city. With new places like Help of Medellin, LDV of Laureles, and Tequila Rocks of Parque Lleras thing have really improved. I have been to the original Tequila Rock (notice my correct spelling) in Lima, and of course LDV in CTG. Never made it to Help in Rio, but from all accounts it was heaven on earth.

Old Parr again you have proved your worth, and if your old friend Urban W is still alive I 'm sure he would be proud.There is a new Help in Medellin? WHERE!! Is it the same owners at the ones in Rio? Donde!!

[John Gault]

There is a new Help in Medellin? WHERE!! Is it the same owners at the ones in Rio? Donde!!As I stated in my post I have not been to MDE in over a year. Please check post #18115 (Old Parr).

[Sam2015]

6). Freelance bars I would highly recommend is Help of Medellin, LDV of Laureles, and Tequila Rocks of Parque Lleras. LOL. Be nice to the guys who won't RTTF!

[Mr Enternational]

There is a new Help in Medellin? WHERE!! Is it the same owners at the ones in Rio? Donde!!The guy was being facetious. Why come on here and confuse everybody with BS like that; especially the readers who do not have English as their first language. Help used to be in Rio, LDV is in Cartagena, and there are a couple of Tequila Rock Discos in Lima.

[Old Parr]

9). For additional information read the Medellin forum, or contact my good friend Vitrea who loves helping new comers to Medellin, and who is more than willing to be your guide free of charge if he is in the city. (Correct Mr V?) wink ---You can find him by reading thread or by doing a name search here on the ISG.
LOL. Be nice to the guys who won't RTTF!
The guy was being facetious.Nice to see you get it Sam! Tired of people coming on the forum asking routine questions that can easily be found with a little effort, or by reading the links to distinction thread, but instead of putting forth any effort at all they want to be spoon fed.

[Jonesie]

I heard some gringo who had been taking pictures of the casa girls over a long period of time, got punched out because he published the photos on his site against and without their permission and finally the boyfriends beat him up! Anybody hear about this?Probably the medellinsex guy. After a few nights of bunk-beds, shared bathrooms, and having to bring their own towels, finding out they paid to be introduced to a street walker was probably the final straw.

[Koki9290]

The guy was being facetious. Why come on here and confuse everybody with BS like that; especially the readers who do not have English as their first language. Help used to be in Rio, LDV is in Cartagena, and there are a couple of Tequila Rock Discos in Lima.When I was in Lima in July, Tequila Rocks in Miraflores had closed down.

[Yapeyu]

Hi,

I just came from there. Total scum! Don't go. Is just another club where the personal is just trying to rip you off with the drinks.

And the girls are not so good!

I regret to had wasting my time in this place.

[Colombia Jake]

Probably the medellinsex guy. After a few nights of bunk-beds, shared bathrooms, and having to bring their own towels, finding out they paid to be introduced to a street walker was probably the final straw.Jonesie,

You lost your teeth and they broke your nose but thank goodness you still have your sense of humor left along with the three readers of that crap you have online! Hopefully they ran you sleezy ass out of town! Your not welcome anymore in the casas so where will you call home?

[Old Parr]

Probably the medellinsex guy. After a few nights of bunk-beds, shared bathrooms, and having to bring their own towels, finding out they paid to be introduced to a street walker was probably the final straw.
Jonesie,

You lost your teeth and they broke your nose but thank goodness you still have your sense of humor left along with the three readers of that crap you have online! Hopefully they ran you sleezy ass out of town! Your not welcome anymore in the casas so where will you call home?A major beat down. Another reason not to post photos as you never know who will see them. I do not post them anymore as I have previously stated, because a member here printed them off and actually walked into LDV in Cartagena with them in hand, asking if the girls in the photos were around, which caused me problems, as one of the girls was a friend of mine, and the the other was her friend.

I hope you are healing up Jonesie. Why have you been kicked out of the casas?

[Jonesie]

Jonesie,

You lost your teeth and they broke your nose but thank goodness you still have your sense of humor left along with the three readers of that crap you have online! Hopefully they ran you sleezy ass out of town! Your not welcome anymore in the casas so where will you call home?That story is weaker than your guide service. Do you tell guys beforehand they'll be sharing a bathroom with 3 old Colombian dudes? Or is that part of the VIP package that includes a dream date introduction to Ms. Model-glue breath?

[Chicafan]

Not helpful. A bunch of sad f--ks bickering.

[SBeach25]

Not helpful. A bunch of sad f--ks bickering.Yes, on this thread most have a pissing contest. Not sure why but everyone wants to be the experts. However, there are times someone contributes a great report. Ignore the bickering and you do find some interesting points.

[Old Parr]

Not helpful. A bunch of sad f--ks bickering.Then why are you reading it? (smile).

[Member #4398]

Agreed 100 percent. I also stopped posting pics of girls to avoid potential trouble. And it could get worse than a fight with a crazy Colombian du. Just ask Cubadave in CR. He continues to be in jail and the girls' photos and videos he proudly posted are only helping his prosecutors.


A major beat down. Another reason not to post photos as you never know who will see them. I do not post them anymore as I have previously stated, because a member here printed them off and actually walked into LDV in Cartagena with them in hand, asking if the girls in the photos were around, which caused me problems, as one of the girls was a friend of mine, and the the other was her friend.

I hope you are healing up Jonesie. Why have you been kicked out of the casas?

[Old Parr]

Jonesie,

You lost your teeth and they broke your nose but thank goodness you still have your sense of humor left along with the three readers of that crap you have online! Hopefully they ran you sleezy ass out of town! Your not welcome anymore in the casas so where will you call home?


Why have you been kicked out of the casas?
That story is weaker than your guide service. Do you tell guys beforehand they'll be sharing a bathroom with 3 old Colombian dudes? Or is that part of the VIP package that includes a dream date introduction to Ms. Model-glue breath?Why are you not welcome in the Casas, Jonesie?

[Jonesie]

A major beat down. Another reason not to post photos as you never know who will see them. I do not post them anymore as I have previously stated, because a member here printed them off and actually walked into LDV in Cartagena with them in hand, asking if the girls in the photos were around, which caused me problems, as one of the girls was a friend of mine, and the the other was her friend.

I hope you are healing up Jonesie. Why have you been kicked out of the casas?Ha, Thanks for the regards, but the only thing I need healed is my ass from having Colombia Jerk's nose up it. If he focused less on my business and more on providing something, anything, of actual value to his clients, he wouldn't have so much spare time to troll monger forums.

[SlamCity7777]

A major beat down. Another reason not to post photos as you never know who will see them. I do not post them anymore as I have previously stated, because a member here printed them off and actually walked into LDV in Cartagena with them in hand, asking if the girls in the photos were around, which caused me problems, as one of the girls was a friend of mine, and the the other was her friend.

I hope you are healing up Jonesie. Why have you been kicked out of the casas?Oh man!! I reference your story all the time! I think hyou told me via PM when I first joined and shared some info with me! Thanks again! I never did make it to Caratagena.

One of the GREATEST BONE HEAD snitch moves of all time!! Prints out the pics, hunts the girl down, and blows up your game! Legendary stupid!

Hahahha.

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[Charm City Dave]

Yes, on this thread most have a pissing contest. Not sure why but everyone wants to be the experts. However, there are times someone contributes a great report. Ignore the bickering and you do find some interesting points.I've been posting on ISG since the late 90's (using this handle since 03). There is a higher than usual noise to signal ratio on this board. I don't hang our here as I only take a trip like this every year or two and folks here are very suspicious of new comers (even guys with bonafides in other forumns) and spend most of their time hurling flames at one another. Still in the midst of the noise is a lot of useful information and I am truly grateful to those that post it. If you are going to MDE, I suspect it is worth wading through the muck to get it.

[Advantageous]

I hopped on today to read through the MDE forum and decide whether or not I (of low Spanish fluency) and my buddy (of no Spanish fluency) should avail of a guide's services while in Medellin / feel safe walking around by our lonesome -- to give you a quick background we're late 20's / early 30's, non-White, and aren't unfamiliar with high murder rate cities (in no means is that bragging, it's actually kind of a bummer), which I've heard makes us a bit less susceptible to gringo crime as long as we dress down. We were unable to get the Mansion for the days we're in town, and settled on a comfortable well-rated penthouse in Parque Lleras; upon initial look-throughs of the thread, it seemed pretty clear that Medellin could be an unwelcome place without a guide and non-fluent Spanish, but as I've gone further back (and apparently within the last 48 hours LOL), I notice a lot of disagreement on the usefulness of a guide in MDE, and whether the cost: value proposition makes sense for one.

I suppose my question is this; if we keep our wits about us, stick to Uber and just walking around the well-traveled parts of Poblado and Laureles, would we be alright to do Medellin by ourselves? If it sounds like a no-go, does anyone have any strong recommendations as to a good place to start in terms of looking for a guide? Given his amount of posts in this thread I've naturally already looked into Colombia Jake, but I'm generally of a mind to shop around when it comes to things of this nature. I've already gotten a lot of helpful information for planning my trip on the CO boards, so I guess "thanks again" is more appropriate than "thanks in advance".


I've been posting on ISG since the late 90's (using this handle since 03). There is a higher than usual noise to signal ratio on this board. I don't hang our here as I only take a trip like this every year or two and folks here are very suspicious of new comers (even guys with bonafides in other forumns) and spend most of their time hurling flames at one another. Still in the midst of the noise is a lot of useful information and I am truly grateful to those that post it. If you are going to MDE, I suspect it is worth wading through the muck to get it.I feel like this place is definitely akin to an information firehose; a lot of really good stuff is out there in terms of information, but there's so much stuff coming at you; in preparing for my trip I've more than once had to track something I was reading about back several pages because an argument derails it. It's definitely manageable with a little elbow grease and patience, but nobody should be shocked if occasionally someone can't find their answer within the hundreds of posts per month.

[Crypton]

I hopped on today to read through the MDE forum and decide whether or not I (of low Spanish fluency) and my buddy (of no Spanish fluency) should avail of a guide's services while in Medellin / feel safe walking around by our lonesome -- to give you a quick background we're late 20's / early 30's, non-White, and aren't unfamiliar with high murder rate cities (in no means is that bragging, it's actually kind of a bummer), which I've heard makes us a bit less susceptible to gringo crime as long as we dress down. We were unable to get the Mansion for the days we're in town, and settled on a comfortable well-rated penthouse in Parque Lleras; upon initial look-throughs of the thread, it seemed pretty clear that Medellin could be an unwelcome place without a guide and non-fluent Spanish, but as I've gone further back (and apparently within the last 48 hours LOL), I notice a lot of disagreement on the usefulness of a guide in MDE, and whether the cost: value proposition makes sense for one.

I suppose my question is this; if we keep our wits about us, stick to Uber and just walking around the well-traveled parts of Poblado and Laureles, would we be alright to do Medellin by ourselves? If it sounds like a no-go, does anyone have any strong recommendations as to a good place to start in terms of looking for a guide? Given his amount of posts in this thread I've naturally already looked into Colombia Jake, but I'm generally of a mind to shop around when it comes to things of this nature. I've already gotten a lot of helpful information for planning my trip on the CO boards, so I guess "thanks again" is more appropriate than "thanks in advance".

I feel like this place is definitely akin to an information firehose; a lot of really good stuff is out there in terms of information, but there's so much stuff coming at you; in preparing for my trip I've more than once had to track something I was reading about back several pages because an argument derails it. It's definitely manageable with a little elbow grease and patience, but nobody should be shocked if occasionally someone can't find their answer within the hundreds of posts per month.

I was in a situation similar to you when I went to Medellin in 2007 (I think. You can search for my posts! I stayed in one of the Mansions (Robert's penthouse, he's the partner in crime with Aussie Greg). Robert was fantastic. He was the guide for us (free of charge) took us to places we'd never have found by ourselves, and invited girls to the penthouse. Short of staying in mansion, which you say. You cannot do, I highly recommend having someone take you around. I am assuming you are going for the "hobby. " You will need someone to take you to good places where you can find good looking girls and the places are also safe. I don't know what Medellin is like now but I went there I did not feel unsafe. Of course, I didn't wander the streets at 2 in the morning either. The other option is to hangout at the mansion even if you are not staying there and you'll have access to the girls (not sure if that's kosher, but I have read here that others have done it). Just my thoughts. Others may disagree with my opinions. Which is fine because it's been some years since I have been in Medellin.

Cheers.

[Jonesie]

I hopped on today to read through the MDE forum and decide whether or not I (of low Spanish fluency) and my buddy (of no Spanish fluency) should avail of a guide's services while in Medellin / feel safe walking around by our lonesome -- to give you a quick background we're late 20's / early 30's, non-White, and aren't unfamiliar with high murder rate cities (in no means is that bragging, it's actually kind of a bummer), which I've heard makes us a bit less susceptible to gringo crime as long as we dress down. We were unable to get the Mansion for the days we're in town, and settled on a comfortable well-rated penthouse in Parque Lleras; upon initial look-throughs of the thread, it seemed pretty clear that Medellin could be an unwelcome place without a guide and non-fluent Spanish, but as I've gone further back (and apparently within the last 48 hours LOL), I notice a lot of disagreement on the usefulness of a guide in MDE, and whether the cost: value proposition makes sense for one.

I suppose my question is this; if we keep our wits about us, stick to Uber and just walking around the well-traveled parts of Poblado and Laureles, would we be alright to do Medellin by ourselves? If it sounds like a no-go, does anyone have any strong recommendations as to a good place to start in terms of looking for a guide? Given his amount of posts in this thread I've naturally already looked into Colombia Jake, but I'm generally of a mind to shop around when it comes to things of this nature. I've already gotten a lot of helpful information for planning my trip on the CO boards, so I guess "thanks again" is more appropriate than "thanks in advance".

I feel like this place is definitely akin to an information firehose; a lot of really good stuff is out there in terms of information, but there's so much stuff coming at you; in preparing for my trip I've more than once had to track something I was reading about back several pages because an argument derails it. It's definitely manageable with a little elbow grease and patience, but nobody should be shocked if occasionally someone can't find their answer within the hundreds of posts per month.Medellin has a lot of different dimensions in which to monger. One of them (or more) are sure to fit your tastes. An hour or two of research would make a guide unnecessary. Casas in the day, strip clubs at night, and if you're treating yourself, a few high end brothels at night. It's only intimidating for those who've never been.

[Colombia Jake]

If you don't speak Spanish, then don't take the chicas out on dates. Fuck them and spend time in the room with them. Sitting in a restaurant and handing your phones back and forth using "Google Translate" is not going to be a fun time. Besides, what if she is looking for a "smart gentleman" and it translates as "ready horseman"? Because caballero listo will translate that way. Or "comprometido. " You promise her something and the next you know, she thinks you are engaged to be married. And I bet most non-Spanish speakers don't know how to put in tildes and accent marks so you might ask her how many assholes she has when you are trying to ask her how old she is.What? Ready for this horse cock or how many assholes she has are actually fair questions, because your hopefully going to pound every hole she has! LOL Hey I have news for you guys that are on dates with the girls I know, she's a sure thing ok! She's going to take your garbaled half drunk attempt at speaking Spanish and laugh at you and with you, but at the end of the night guess what? She's going home with you! The girls are comfortable with you not having to entertain them, and there is so much going on around the park she's happy to people watch right along with you and listen to the music all night long. She know's she's getting paid so she's happy and so are you knowing she's yours tonight. Don't be a hermit (monger mentality) and think your only worth an hour with a chica so you can go be alone again and watch her go collect from another customer again and again! Finally don't ask her old she is (typical American) because its rude here, (non of them are under 18) and she's not going ask you your age! Isn't that the nicest thing you've heard in a long time, because its going to be the first or second question you hear in the states! The bottom line is have as many different experiences as you can on your visit.

Just so you know Mike and I have not liked each other for over a year and have had words in the past, so this is not new between us!

Things finally came back on Jonesie after rubbing the Medellin casa community wrong for too long! These casa owners here in Medellin don't like it when people come in and start.

Publishing reviews with photos about their girls and their places of business. The Sex casa business is subtle here in Medellin without advertising itself or making a big deal about it. He finally wore out his welcome with a lot of people including myself. He got what he had coming to him after writing reviews of the girls sexual proformances and invading too many girls privacy! Publishing publicly too many photos against the permission of the girls who he gives a 20,000 peso tip after a session to take their private photo, but they almost never say yes when asked to be viewed publicly. The girls are poor and come from tough barrios and are connected to people who can end your life. I'm guessing all they had to do with Mike because he actually thinks the girls like him, was have one of the girls say hey baby meet me here, Surprise!

I remember you telling me you were going completely take over Jackson's ISG Medellin market sorry to inform you but this is still where its at, and I have never ever seen you publicly out with a women at any level from street walker on up!

[BeersTerry]

1. You can't just hang around the Mansion without being a guest of the Mansion. They sometimes let you pay to get into special events....and that is only because Roberto is maximizing his intake at La Cuerva.

2 Uber? I would just get a cab, they are cheap enough.

3. Just hang around Park Illeras, from what I understand, putas are hanging out there now looking for you.

Take the Metro or a cab into Centro during the day for casas, though they can be a little hard to find sometimes.


btw.......the bantering back and forth is too funny

[Jonesie]

What? Ready for this horse cock or how many assholes she has are actually fair questions, because your hopefully going to pound every hole she has! LOL Hey I have news for you guys that are on dates with the girls I know, she's a sure thing ok! She's going to take your garbaled half drunk attempt at speaking Spanish and laugh at you and with you, but at the end of the night guess what? She's going home with you! The girls are comfortable with you not having to entertain them, and there is so much going on around the park she's happy to people watch right along with you and listen to the music all night long. She know's she's getting paid so she's happy and so are you knowing she's yours tonight. Don't be a hermit (monger mentality) and think your only worth an hour with a chica so you can go be alone again and watch her go collect from another customer again and again! Finally don't ask her old she is (typical American) because its rude here, (non of them are under 18) and she's not going ask you your age! Isn't that the nicest thing you've heard in a long time, because its going to be the first or second question you hear in the states! The bottom line is have as many different experiences as you can on your visit...For the guys who aren't familiar with this half-wit drama, Jay is mad that I wouldn't let him spam my site with his whack-ass guide service and hostal rentals. After complaints from the few guys that did try his place out, I told him his thing wasn't a fit for the site. He persisted, and eventually got banned. He's been whining and talking out his ass ever since. Since this is the only site he hasn't been banned from, here we are.

I've not personally seen his place, but the common gripe was there was one bathroom shared by 4 rooms, and dirty towels. Common complaints about the 'introduction / dream date' are they already met the girl on the Mayorista or San Diego streetwalker area. This is only what I've heard. But heard consistently.

If you were reading this thread trying to gather info on your Colombia trip, sorry you had to see this shit-show. I too would rather have not been in this conversation. Boyd called me and told me Jay was talking shit here, so curiosity got the best of me and I came over to see what silliness he was up to this time.

I post pics, and allow others to do so, so that the reader gets an idea of what's available and knows what to expect. Every so often, a girl complains about it, and I take it down. Otherwise, I've never had any issues. There are some who don't agree, and that's fine. They don't have to look.

Jay, blaming me for your problems is like a restaurant blaming tripadvisor for its bad reviews. I didn't make your 'business' what it is, you did. My general opinion of what little I know of you is that you're pleasant to those you want something from, and shitty to everyone else. If you really want to sound like a foil helmet *******, go ahead, write whatever you want. Jax's Colombia forum could use the traffic.

[EstebanH]

I personally prefer Monger Network over ISG because we get first-hand reports of girls in the casas along with pictures. ISG does deliver some content but it is primarily one or two threads in a worldwide forum. The guys on Monger Network can also discuss independent girls. Jonsie also goes out of his way to help out newbies and conducts tours of all the casas and has created his own map. He really puts a lot of effort into his site and tries to cultivate a community.

Regarding taking girls out to dinner, I do it every trip. I do it not to impress the girl but because I don't like to eat alone and I like to have a sexy girl sitting next to me. I like getting my schlong rubbed under the table too. Great fun! Where else can you take a girl out for drinks and dinner and spend about $15?

[SlamCity7777]

Agreed 100 percent. I also stopped posting pics of girls to avoid potential trouble. And it could get worse than a fight with a crazy Colombian du. Just ask Cubadave in CR. He continues to be in jail and the girls' photos and videos he proudly posted are only helping his prosecutors.Well lets be real. Cuba Dave was standing on a digital soap box and shouting about everything and anything that he wanted! He wanted and drew attention to himself and now he's paying the price.

I feel for the man. I do but he was warned right? Told to knock it off? Run out of the DR and Cuba the chatter goes. And finally got rung up in CR. Sad yo. Sad. I wish him all the best but this is a witch hunt and we all know how this ended up for the witches of Salem.

[Colombia Jake]

I simply asked for confirmation that you got beat up for the reasons I stated before. These casa owners here in Medellin don't like it when people come in and start.

Publishing reviews with photos about their girls and their places of business. The Sex casa business is subtle here in Medellin without advertising itself or making a big deal about it. He finally wore out his welcome with a lot of people including myself. He got what he had coming to him after writing reviews of the girls sexual performances and invading too many girls privacy! Publishing publicly too many photos against the permission of the girls who he gives a 20,000 peso tip after a session to take their private photo, but they almost never say yes when asked to be viewed publicly. The girls are poor and come from tough barrios and are connected to people who can end your life. I'm guessing all they had to do with Mike because he actually thinks the girls like him, was have one of the girls say hey baby meet me here, Surprise!

The confirmation came in confirming that you got beat up, no different than someone confirming closing time at a strip club, end of that story! You also confirmed that you have never stepped foot in my 6 bedroom 3. 5 Bathroom 24/7 security love palace! It may not be 5 star quality hotel, but its every bit as good as most of the places guys live in the states and nobody seems to be complaining, because I keep getting a steady flow of repeat customers and my reservations are looking good for the next two months, another words I'm doing well, which seemed to start just after I stopped posting with you, so that's the end of that story! The girlfriends my goodness, you have the audacity to take a shot at them though you've never even seen one much less been out with a girl end of that story. Finally the reason I'm still here is because Jackson gets it, competition is good for everyone, unlike the way you do business! The End! Time to get back to work its been fun!

Laura pictured below is so much fun to party with! I still have some space in November and December but its filling up fast!

Thanks,

Colombia Jake.

[Jonesie]

I personally prefer Monger Network over ISG because we get first-hand reports of girls in the casas along with pictures. ISG does deliver some content but it is primarily one or two threads in a worldwide forum. The guys on Monger Network can also discuss independent girls. Jonsie also goes out of his way to help out newbies and conducts tours of all the casas and has created his own map. He really puts a lot of effort into his site and tries to cultivate a community.

Regarding taking girls out to dinner, I do it every trip. I do it not to impress the girl but because I don't like to eat alone and I like to have a sexy girl sitting next to me. I like getting my schlong rubbed under the table too. Great fun! Where else can you take a girl out for drinks and dinner and spend about $15?I've met (and like) Jackson, and think both our sites do a great job of informing members and letting them make better decisions on where they'd like to go on vacation and how to get the most out of their time while traveling. Sure, we have different ways of doing things. It would be easy for me to say "Well, I'd do this differently if I owned ISG". But I also realize that many of the ways this site is managed is because of its size, and would difficult and time consuming to duplicate my method for so many large sections.

As for the for and against of photos. I believe posting photos is the best way to get an idea of what you want. When I was a newbie, I was researching to see where I wanted to go based on pics. I was able to rule out quite a few destinations based on what type of girls they had, based on pics. If some guy had a thing for chubby girls, and didn't post pics, he could write a report saying "Went to American Samoa, and saw the best looking women in the world". If I bought a flight and landed in American Samoa to find massive looking chicks, I'd be pretty bummed to have gone to so much trouble for nothing. That's why pics matter.

[Phunluv]

I don't know what happened or didn't happen to Jonesie. I read his site and like the content. I was surprised at first at the number of pics posted but shrugged it off thinking the site doesn't have as many active members as this one and so would stay "under the radar" so to speak.

I think Jonesie is trying to do a valuable service by showing what kinds of girls you can find in the low-end casas, although I do realize posting the pics is technically in some cases a violation of privacy.

But I'm not going to pile on him. The legendary Cubanut used to post hundreds of pics, although towards the end of his run, he posted only clothed girls posing in a non-compromising context.

By the way, I've seen Jake's site and there's pics of girls on it too. His shutterfly page has nearly 200 pics, some of them of girls in a compromising and provocative context. Should I assume all gave consent to have their pic posted online? But this isn't meant as an attack, just trying to be fair.

But my main point is pics are important for sites like this one and Jonesie's and Jake's. We're guys. We need the visual stimulus. Info and advice is NOT enough, we need images to inspire and animate us. Once you've entered this world, pics (or videos) of photoshopped models and porno stars just don't cut it anymore. We're looking for the real thing. We WANT to see pics of real live women you can have sex with for money!

To preserve the value of sites like this one, we should be discussing ways to post pics more securely instead of sniping each other. Sadly, it looks like we'll all have to learn to use photo-editing software so faces can be blurred or cropped off. It looks like we'll have to learn to live with that in order to protect not just these forums but our hobby and way of life.

[Jonesie]

I simply asked for confirmation that you got beat up for the reasons I stated before. These casa owners here in Medellin don't like it when people come in and start.

Publishing reviews with photos about their girls and their places of business. The Sex casa business is subtle here in Medellin without advertising itself or making a big deal about it. He finally wore out his welcome with a lot of people including myself. He got what he had coming to him after writing reviews of the girls sexual performances and invading too many girls privacy! Publishing publicly too many photos against the permission of the girls who he gives a 20,000 peso tip after a session to take their private photo, but they almost never say yes when asked to be viewed publicly. The girls are poor and come from tough barrios and are connected to people who can end your life. I'm guessing all they had to do with Mike because he actually thinks the girls like him, was have one of the girls say hey baby meet me here, Surprise!

The confirmation came in confirming that you got beat up, no different than someone confirming closing time at a strip club, end of that story! You also confirmed that you have never stepped foot in my 6 bedroom 3. 5 Bathroom 24/7 security love palace! It may not be 5 star quality hotel, but its every bit as good as most of the places guys live in the states and nobody seems to be complaining, because I keep getting a steady flow of repeat customers and my reservations are looking good for the next two months, another words I'm doing well, which seemed to start just after I stopped posting with you, so that's the end of that story! The girlfriends my goodness, you have the audacity to take a shot at them though you've never even seen one much less been out with a girl end of that story. Finally the reason I'm still here is because Jackson gets it, competition is good for everyone, unlike the way you do business! The End! Time to get back to work its been fun!

Laura pictured below is so much fun to party with! I still have some space in November and December but its filling up fast!

Thanks,

Colombia Jake.For the general public reading this, this is some shit Jake fantasized about, then actually wrote it on the forum. Both the part of me getting my ass kicked, and him being busy. Clearly not too busy to write some bullshit on Jax's forum.

I'm going to go with the 4 bedroom, 1 bathroom version a few of your former guests have claimed. Not because I've seen it personally, but because the same clown that's saying 6 bedroom 3. 5 bath is also the guy saying I got beat up. Do you see the connection? You don't do you?

If you're going to make shit up, why not just be like the Costa Rica guys and say you were in the CIA, or special forces. That's infinitely cooler and more interesting than saying I got my ass kicked. And much harder to dispel. I'm very visible, and tons of guys see me around town all the time. 'Ass kicked' is too easy to wash away.

It's not like this shit matters, you're not really in my orbit, and there's nothing in your world that affects mine. If you think you can get clients talking out your ass, have at it. You don't really matter to me.

So. Because some of you poor guys had to read through this Jerry Springer crap to get some info on your Medellin trip, I'll post a pic of the girl I pulled tonight, and a little because it pisses Jake off that I'm posting pics.

Angie is one of the girls you can find at Lindas Chicas. Lindas chicas is an upscale place downtown. Upscale meaning a couple things. First, the girls tend to be prettier, and the price is a little higher (you won't see Jake). The service is consistently good, and the atmosphere festive.

[John Gault]

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I am sick of these silly fights among members. To me if you have a beef with another fellow it would seem it best to use the private message to voice your thoughts. No need for the rest of us to wade though this stuff.

[Ricardo Torres]

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I am sick of these silly fights among members. To me if you have a beef with another fellow it would seem it best to use the private message to voice your thoughts. No need for the rest of us to wade though this stuff.Quit your crying and make a trip report if you do not like what is being posted!

I forgot you do not go anywhere other than to Florida so it is not possible.

Also it is not hard to just not read the posts you do not like, or use the ignore function that is available for anyone here on the ISG. You seem to do a lot of whining, and I am sure people get sick of that also.

[Mr Adventure]

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I am sick of these silly fights among members. To me if you have a beef with another fellow it would seem it best to use the private message to voice your thoughts. No need for the rest of us to wade though this stuff.Not me, I find it most entertaining, a sort of "novella" for guys. Also informative, if it wasn't for them a guy could say or advertise anything, without ever being called out on it. Think it helps to keep mostly honest guys stay honest, most of the time, LOL.

BTW saw an very entertaining movie filmed in Bogota, "Blunt Force Trauma", about modern day gun fighters, wonder if Jonsie and Jake would want to settle their differences in like manner, probably not. Here's the trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PBKU8Pm41I

[Colombia Jake]

Not me, I find it most entertaining, a sort of "novella" for guys. Also informative, if it wasn't for them a guy could say or advertise anything, without ever being called out on it. Think it helps to keep mostly honest guys stay honest, most of the time, LOL.

BTW saw an very entertaining movie filmed in Bogota, "Blunt Force Trauma", about modern day gun fighters, wonder if Jonsie and Jake would want to settle their differences in like manner, probably not. Here's the trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PBKU8Pm41II think guns and knives are for cowards, and I really have no interest in fighting Jonesie because it wouldn't change are differences, rather it would intensify them even more! Plus I think Jonesie can hold his own pretty well, so its a lose lose for both of us. We just pummeled each other here with insults and as far as I'm concerned its over. Before this flair up, we had been just ignoring each other when we see each other down town and at Patricks and that is the way it will continue as far as I'm concerned going forward. He's got nothing to say to me of any interest and I'm sure he feels the same. Happy Halloween to everyone including Jonesie! Have a fun night!

[C Jack Sparrow]

Is this a Joke?

CAN or will anyone EVER pay her prices;.

http://www.chicasprepagocolombia.com/v01/medellincaliente.com/chicas-rubias-prepago-acompanante-norelis-penagos-1190

Her ad says 25 why-o, which means 27-31 in reality.

Isn't little tom old to be a star in the world. I ordered a Perfect 10 from an agency once, just to have done it. I payed 400 mil pesos. For 1. 5 hs. She was a true perfect beauty. Operated, but done with such skill that both, breast and butt appeared 100% real- or should I sayn 99% since I noticed it. She was 20 y-o.

In Medellin 80% of the gilrs are under 30 why-o. Competition is fierce, it's the buyers market. Especially now when a strong recession hits the country.

I she has clients everyday, just one daytime and on TLN or something like that, she is up to 100 million pesos per month!

I recommend Kickboxer, he know how to get the prices down, often under 100 mil for 18 y-o cute babes.

I also like Legal Tender with his scholarship-strategy, Ricker giving advice about where the sweetest girls to be with is in north east Brasil;.

Well; with a simple calcule I got that the 10 percent most beautiful girls 18-30 in Medellin are 64.000.

How many are working-girls?

I really hope that we rich Western Guys and Estrato 5-6 colombians start to realize what favourable position we have.

Going to a prepago and paying 120+30 for BBBJ, that may be 15% of a guys monthly salary.

Nycpimp is also good to remind about this.

So far, after 5 long periods in Medellin since 2009; New Life is the only place where the price is where it should be. The rest is overpaying, or girls that would earn more selling caramellos in the street.

Be tuff, don't be Mr nice guy. This girls come from environment where the Law of the Jungle still are in effect, in contrast to what media says about peace. Etc.

Many girls also have no-repairable brain-damages due to bad nutrition during their first 0-10 years. And are stupid literally. They can be as many as up to 50% of the population!

The record of combining beauty with stupidity still holds by Juliana Elejalde; she wanted 20 million for sex, and claimed that the most that she had been offered was something like 35 million of 50 million for a weekend. She is also closing up to her 30th birthday, still living in a little room in her separated moms Envigado apartment.

I think we guys comes from good middle-class environment and can't really understand the mentality that these live by.

[SlamCity7777]

Quit your crying and make a trip report if you do not like what is being posted!

I forgot you do not go anywhere other than to Florida so it is not possible.

Also it is not hard to just not read the posts you do not like, or use the ignore function that is available for anyone here on the ISG. You seem to do a lot of whining, and I am sure people get sick of that also.[Forum Complaint deleted by Admin]

Here are some tips and answers to the usual questions. Before you ask any question please use the search option for god sakes!

Looking for a place to stay that is chica friendly? Hotel and Apt questions go in the Hotel and Apt Topic.

Looking for 9/10's? Ssearch John's topic and filter through the drama. In the 8 years I've been going to mede he is the only guy with a solid lead to 9/10. Well my buddy had a gay guy who had the hook up but we fell out.

Is Colombia Dangerous? Yes Mede / Bogo are dangerous there was a murder in the bario that I buy weed in just the other day. Please just be extra careful, use common sense. If you don't see a Cafe Juan Valdez you're in a spot where you need to be extra careful.

Can I pick up / meet / how to. Normal girls in Colombia if I don't speak spanish? No you can't pull normal girls if you don't speak Spansih! Stop asking! In fact if you have to ask how to meet normal girls in Colombia there is a VERY good chance you have no chance at all and stick to working girls.

Normal girls. I've said it 100 times. Be the best you possible! Be smart, funny, cool, nice, generous, in ohter words don't be your normal self! Hahahah!

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[EstebanH]

Is this a Joke?

Many girls also have no-repairable brain-damages due to bad nutrition during their first 0-10 years. And are stupid literally. They can be as many as up to 50% of the population!I don't know if this is true. For sure, if an infant is malnourished during the first two years of life, a reduced brain size is possible. This is certainly true in North Korea where famine is a fact of life. But, if the child is breast fed during the first two years of life, they have a good chance of normal development. Colombians eat more grass fed meats and free range chicken since they don't have food factory farms. Americans eat more crap food than anywhere on the planet.

A true indicator of health is the quality of the hair. Long, thick, full hair is a visual record of health. The chicas I see all have gorgeous hair.

The stupidity you speak of is true with most women, even American women, who are some of the dumbest cunts on the planet.

[Mr Enternational]

Is this a Joke?

CAN or will anyone EVER pay her prices;.

http://www.chicasprepagocolombia.com/v01/medellincaliente.com/chicas-rubias-prepago-acompanante-norelis-penagos-1190

Her ad says 25 why-o, which means 27-31 in reality.Hey, I say the same about guys paying 400K. Different strokes for different folks. I guess super quality costs a little more than good quality which costs more than the run of the mill basic quality that I go for. To me it is not worth the price difference, but to many others it is.

[UncleMonger]

Are China's welcome to the hotels or is that not allowed in Medellin?

[Combo]

Hey, I say the same about guys paying 400K. Different strokes for different folks. I guess super quality costs a little more than good quality which costs more than the run of the mill basic quality that I go for. To me it is not worth the price difference, but to many others it is.My guess is she is available elsewhere for a fraction of that price. However, she uses this ad in the hopes that some fool will pay that price every once in a while. If she gets say 1 sucker a month, she's making a killing.

[SlamCity7777]

Are China's welcome to the hotels or is that not allowed in Medellin?There is a specific section for hotel questions and apartments. [Forum Complaint deleted by Admin]

Chinas? I assume you mean chicas. Most hotels will charge you per girl so make the resy for two girls and then sign them in and out. They must show valid ID. I find this to be a huge pain in the ass.

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[UncleMonger]

I meant to ask if chicas are allowed to come with me to my hotel. Is that allowed in Medellin?

[John]

I am 100 percent sure you did not get permission from Angie to post her photo on your website. She is a sweet and shy girl. Will never would have allowed you to do so.

On a side note for 150 mil or so she is the almost the best you can get in medellin.

Face is bit off but body for sure makes up for it. All natural beauty. She used to work at Lindas Chicas but no more works there. Nancy the mamasan at Lindas Chicas consistently brings in good looking barrio girls.

Cost at Lindas Chicas are 2 hrs. 100 mil for the casa and 100 mil for the girl. Nancy generally adds up some baileys cost about 15 mil each so let's say 30 mil for that on top. So for short time it costs about 230 mil pesos. All night if you want to take out a girl from the casa then you pay 150 mil take out fees to nancy and for all night you can pay the girl between 200 mil to 250 mil pesos. All night works out bit better at total of 400 mil if guys are into doing all night instead of short time.

John.


For the general public reading this, this is some shit Jake fantasized about, then actually wrote it on the forum. Both the part of me getting my ass kicked, and him being busy. Clearly not too busy to write some bullshit on Jax's forum.

I'm going to go with the 4 bedroom, 1 bathroom version a few of your former guests have claimed. Not because I've seen it personally, but because the same clown that's saying 6 bedroom 3. 5 bath is also the guy saying I got beat up. Do you see the connection? You don't do you?

If you're going to make shit up, why not just be like the Costa Rica guys and say you were in the CIA, or special forces. That's infinitely cooler and more interesting than saying I got my ass kicked. And much harder to dispel. I'm very visible, and tons of guys see me around town all the time. 'Ass kicked' is too easy to wash away.

It's not like this shit matters, you're not really in my orbit, and there's nothing in your world that affects mine. If you think you can get clients talking out your ass, have at it. You don't really matter to me.

So. Because some of you poor guys had to read through this Jerry Springer crap to get some info on your Medellin trip, I'll post a pic of the girl I pulled tonight, and a little because it pisses Jake off that I'm posting pics.

Angie is one of the girls you can find at Lindas Chicas. Lindas chicas is an upscale place downtown. Upscale meaning a couple things. First, the girls tend to be prettier, and the price is a little higher (you won't see Jake). The service is consistently good, and the atmosphere festive.

[Chicafan]

So. Because some of you poor guys had to read through this Jerry Springer crap to get some info on your Medellin trip, I'll post a pic of the girl I pulled tonight, and a little because it pisses Jake off that I'm posting pics.

Angie is one of the girls you can find at Lindas Chicas. Lindas chicas is an upscale place downtown. Upscale meaning a couple things. First, the girls tend to be prettier, and the price is a little higher (you won't see Jake). The service is consistently good, and the atmosphere festive.I'm confused. What does the feud you've been involved in and partly responsible for have to do with a girl you say you pulled from Lindas Chicas and did not authorize you to post her photo? It's very revealing that you posted this "trophy" to make up to the board for being a selfish MFer in the first place.

Are you an American? People have a right to privacy even in Colombia. Classless.

[Mr Adventure]

I'm confused. What does the feud you've been involved in and partly responsible for have to do with a girl you say you pulled from Lindas Chicas and did not authorize you to post her photo? It's very revealing that you posted this "trophy" to make up to the board for being a selfish MFer in the first place.

Are you an American? People have a right to privacy even in Colombia. Classless.Somewhere I read where Jonesie stated his parents were from Kiev, Russia. He may be an American citizen, I do not know, but what I do know is that he is 100% huckster. I was one of the idiots who supposedly purchased a lifetime membership to his CR website, which mysteriously ended after one year and was completely worthless as the only guys posting were Speedy1 and Jonesie and they were just regurgitating the same info I had already found on the other CR forum, plus his ongoing feuds.

It's because of these misfits who can't cut it in their own country, ie Cubadave and Jonesie, who try to make a living promoting themselves while exploiting others that I will be leaving my camera at home. Don't know if he got beat up or not but sure seems like someone who deserves it.

[EstebanH]

I am 100 percent sure you did not get permission from Angie to post her photo on your website. She is a sweet and shy girl. Will never would have allowed you to do so.

On a side note for 150 mil or so she is the almost the best you can get in medellin.

Face is bit off but body for sure makes up for it. All natural beauty. She used to work at Lindas Chicas but no more works there. Nancy the mamasan at Lindas Chicas consistently brings in good looking barrio girls.

Cost at Lindas Chicas are 2 hrs. 100 mil for the casa and 100 mil for the girl. Nancy generally adds up some baileys cost about 15 mil each so let's say 30 mil for that on top. So for short time it costs about 230 mil pesos. All night if you want to take out a girl from the casa then you pay 150 mil take out fees to nancy and for all night you can pay the girl between 200 mil to 250 mil pesos. All night works out bit better at total of 400 mil if guys are into doing all night instead of short time.

John.John.

She is not a sweet and innocent kid anymore. She is a working girl now. She chose this herself and has been whoring for a while now. She is not so naive that she does not know the dangers of having nude photos taken. I happen to know that she loves being photographed. When I whipped out my phone to take a vicdeo, she was not the least bit concerned; she was only worried that her hair looked good.

[UncleMonger]

There is a specific section for hotel questions and apartments. Since the Mods only censor my posts and don't move thing to where they belong. Fuck it.

Chinas? I assume you mean chicas. Most hotels will charge you per girl so make the resy for two girls and then sign them in and out. They must show valid ID. I find this to be a huge pain in the ass.Thanks for the tip slamcity!

[Jonesie]

I'm confused. What does the feud you've been involved in and partly responsible for have to do with a girl you say you pulled from Lindas Chicas and did not authorize you to post her photo? It's very revealing that you posted this "trophy" to make up to the board for being a selfish MFer in the first place.

Are you an American? People have a right to privacy even in Colombia. Classless.You're confused? You asked a leading question, then answered it yourself, then followed up with an insult. I'd say confused is putting it lightly.

[Member #4393]

Yes that pic is Angie, and she freelances and charges the standard rate 150/300 all night and she is a good girl. Johnsie if she also works at lindas chicas, I didn't know that. She is only 18 or maybe barely 19. She also posts pics like this on her own facebook page so she probably wouldn't be overly pissed if she found it here. She also has a sister that is very pretty but I think probably [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) as the mansion won't let her in but she definitely works. The lesson here guys is be very f'and careful who you pull from the internet because any number of things can happen. One, it can be an [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girl, Two she can just be terrible and / or her pics can be old, three it can be a girl banned from places because of 'problems' you probably don't need, and fourth and most insidious, it can be a setup for robbery, extortion, or worse. Most veterans can parse this shit out, but if you are new to the game than be careful.

Johnsie is well aware that posting pics has risks and he is willing to take the risk. Lecturing him on it from Missouri or whatever is a LOL moment. I have heard nothing about him getting beat up around town and people talk.

As for Jake, it has been quite some time but I have showed up alone on the strength of his website to try something new and stayed there for several days before I bailed and got a hotel. I will settle this once and for all: Jake has a typical family three bedroom apartment on the fifth floor of a family apartment complex tucked way in the back of patio bonito. There is nothing to do around there that does not involve a cab or a long walk. When you walk in the front door there is a small bathroom with a sink and toilet, no shower, on the right. On the left is what used to be the family room, but they sectioned it off and made a bedroom out of it. Jakes friend lives in this room. Behind the laundry room past the kitchen is a very small bedroom, like maids quarters, that may or may not have its own bathroom. There is also Jake's bedroom, where he spends most of his time on the computer or whatever and I assume it has its own bathroom, but no one goes in there but him and his girlfriend. They built several wooden partitions and they have placed a bed and lease the small patio as a bedroom, it is not. The common area in front of this porch is basically where one would put a dining room table, but it is a small circular table with four chairs. This is where you will hang out if you hang out at all. The remaining actual two bedrooms are to the left, and yes everyone shares a bathroom including a friend of Jakes who lives there.

Jake charges for the girl, whether he admits it or not. It is built into the price of sleeping on his porch, or behind his laundry room, or in one of the actual two rooms for hire. I can't confirm this but one of the girls asked me for more money because she said Jake charged her 40,000 pesos out of what she made. He has no one cleaning up and the towels are old and filthy as are the sheets and pillow cases, the floors are dirty, and the bathroom is like a hostel bathroom. For some (many?) of the guys here, it must feel just like home and they may not even notice it. For me I like someone making my bed, changing my sheets, and keeping for floor clean while I am on vacation. I am not judging here, simply "reporting" as this is a reporting site.

He has quite a few young girls, 19 ish, available for his 'girlfriend experience'. If the condition of his house is okay with you, and you want to parade a young girl around park lleras, then by all means do it. Problems? They want a lot of money $200-250,and Jake says they earn it by giving you the GFE date. However most of them are clock watching and want to be out by 11 or so. So if you spend all your time dancing and strutting around lleras, your screwed. Barely. You can also call up a girl like Angie if you are vetted, sure of yourself, speak some spanish, have her come to your apartment, take her to dinner, spend the night, and leave in the morning for just a little more. If you aren't ready for this and live in poor housekeeping, pack up and head to Jake's place. He will fix you right up. Positive note: jake tells these girls if they don't show you a good time he won't call them back and they believe him, so they do until around 11, then they want to go home. By then it is lights out in the house.

If you want hand holding, Jake will take you to the casas in the day and wherever you want at night, but he will charge you. He is a nice guy, a big strong fella who could probably kick your ass but won't, and I think most people wouldn't mess with him without a gun, colombian or not. He will probably get you around safely and you will have fun, and I think you will like his girls unless you like them big. This is as honest as I can be.

Would I stay with him again? No unless things have drastically changed in the past year or so. From what I have read I don't think they have. Would I recommend him? Yes. With a caveat.

[Dickhead]

Somewhere I read where Jonesie stated his parents were from Kiev, Russia. That would be impossible, since Kiev is not in Russia.

[Old Parr]

Can it be anymore obvious, Jonesie = TimeToPlay, and if is not, he has someone posting the commentary on his behalf.

Very childish to have to resort to this type of behavior Jonesie.

[Knowledge]

Vladimir Putin says it is part of what he calls "Grand Russia" Ukrainians disagree.


That would be impossible, since Kiev is not in Russia.

[SlamCity7777]

Thanks for the tip slamcity!Very welcom Uncle M.

I just ask you report back when possible and kick down your knowledge to the next guy. And post stuff in the right area.

[Mr Adventure]

There is nothing to do around there that does not involve a cab or a long walk.

yes everyone shares a bathroom

He has no one cleaning up and the towels are old and filthy as are the sheets and pillow cases, the floors are dirty, and the bathroom is like a hostel bathroom. For some (many?) of the guys here, it must feel just like home and they may not even notice it. For me I like someone making my bed, changing my sheets, and keeping for floor clean while I am on vacation. I am not judging here, simply "reporting" as this is a reporting site.

Problems? They want a lot of money $200-250,and Jake says they earn it by giving you the GFE date. However most of them are clock watching and want to be out by 11 or so.

Yes it is a quiet neighborhood, don't hear beeping horns, bar music till 3 am-some people like being able to rest from their weary journey.

Jake has his own bathroom, the little room has it's own and there's the 1/ 1/2, so 3. 5 total.

I was there in Aug, Louisa comes in weekly and does a great job cleaning, the room I was in had a new mattress, Jake came I one day w / stack of new towels and on another day safes, another fresh flower-he does make an effort.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1782750#post1782750.

After making a dozen trips to CR, to the point of disgust, the never ending disappointments in everything, I do not remember a single hotel where everything worked or was as advertised. The Cocal was the closest but even the jr suite at $210/ night the sliding glass door would not close and just opened enough to squeeze through. Missing frig / hot frig, a / see that can't be turned off, 15 W light bulbs seem to be the norm.

I had learned that the best thing I could do to insure a fun trip was to have an open mind. Things I really wanted to do and expected to do were either a major let down or non-existent. But it was the things / experiences that I never expected that saved the day.

No the place wasn't like I expected and initially disappointing. But having a full kitchen, and being in a quiet neighborhood, also quieter than a hotel cause you don't have foot traffic outside your door at all hrs. The groundskeepers start at 7 am but that's a hell of a lot better than the incessant back-up alarm on a delivery truck at 4 am. And then there's the unique people you meet who you'll never forget, like Eric. And so, by focusing on the positive things, I felt that I had a better time at Jake's than I would have had in a noisy hotel where I need to be around for when the maid comes. (I used to stay at Mona Lisa in SJO).

I only went for a round of drinks, then back to Jakes, most of the time was done w / date by 10 pm. I paid every one 150 k plus 20 k for taxi as advised by Jake.

[BayBoy]

That would be impossible, since Kiev is not in Russia.Maybe his parents immigrated to America when Kiev was in the commie period.

[Advantageous]

Can it be anymore obvious, Jonesie = TimeToPlay, and if is not, he has someone posting the commentary on his behalf.

Very childish to have to resort to this type of behavior Jonesie.I feel that, given how poor an idea making a 1-post sock puppet is, it's more likely someone from his Colombia site came to whiteknight for him without realizing the implications of having someone's first post defend one person and discredit another.

[John]

All I got to say to this is posting photos on websites without getting permission is just stupid on top Classless. Secondly I know for sure Angie is looking for a photo of Jonesie. Let's see him post his fucking photos on this website and we will see how good he feels after being visited by some good old Barrio guys. Angie messaged me yesterday asking for Jonesie photos. Obviously she wants to know who has posted photos not to say Hello, to him.

For the record I did not even mention her nothing about this post she on her own find out and was wanting to know who the guy is that posted those photos.

I don't come to Colombia to get involved in stupidities. So I told her I will see who the guy is but bottom line I have no interest in partaking with any of this mess.

All I got to say the Girl of the month is looking for you Jonesie.

It only takes one bad move on our part as gringos to get into very bad situations in Colombia.

So guys be careful here. Be safe. Always assume that when you take photos of girls is for yourself and never for public distribution, that is a normal human assumption. Further if you are in Colombia always assume that if you were to post the pics on websites it can hurt you very bad in the long run.

John.


John.

She is not a sweet and innocent kid anymore. She is a working girl now. She chose this herself and has been whoring for a while now. She is not so naive that she does not know the dangers of having nude photos taken. I happen to know that she loves being photographed. When I whipped out my phone to take a vicdeo, she was not the least bit concerned; she was only worried that her hair looked good.

[EstebanH]

For the record I did not even mention her nothing about this post she on her own find out and was wanting to know who the guy is that posted those photos.

JohnI don't believe you for a minute.

OK GUYS, ATTENTION:

Do not mention names of girls on this forum. Do not mention anything on here except the weather, restaurants, etc. Forget about pictures.

Because of guys like this, anything written here will be communicated to the girls. It happens over and over.

Pretty pathetic, really.

Two guys from this forum are actively discussing what goes on here with Angie. Little beta bitches that they are.

[Jonesie]

Can it be anymore obvious, Jonesie = TimeToPlay, and if is not, he has someone posting the commentary on his behalf.

Very childish to have to resort to this type of behavior Jonesie.Neither is my style amigo. I don't post as 3rd party users, ever. Someone has a problem with Jonesie, here I am.

[Member #4393]

I feel that, given how poor an idea making a 1-post sock puppet is, it's more likely someone from his Colombia site came to whiteknight for him without realizing the implications of having someone's first post defend one person and discredit another.Neither. I am a guy who hasn't posted that lives part time in Medellin, part time in the states. In the past before I was coming so much to Medellin I stayed with Jake for several days. If I was here to "white knight" Jonesie, I would have said bad things about Jake, which I did not. I described his apartment, said real things about the cleanliness, how many bedrooms which is always reported wrong, including from Jake, said he was a nice guy, said I would recommend him with a caveat (which is if you want maid service and a clean place and privacy, go elsewhere. If you want to party hard with young girls and don't mind that stuff, go there). I tried to give a real review, something that is supposed to be done on these types of sites. You may have noticed that some of my information about Jake's place directly contradicted what Jonesie said about it, including the number of bathrooms, rooms, etc. If you don't appreciate my post, bug off.

As far as white knighting Jonesie, all I said is people talk and I hadn't heard of him getting beat up. I said not one thing, positive or negative about him. We used to post pictures online and it always led to problems. Always. Idiots like indicated in the previous post tell the girls their picture is up and the shit hits the fan.

This site is full of petulant children, much different than it was years ago when I was a senior member of the DR forum under a different name. I stopped posting due to a relationship that ended a few years ago and have been lurking. Just so you know, I have been to the Dr over a hundred times, have lived in two different places in Colombia, have traveled extensively in Peru, Argentina (hey Jackson, long time no see) all over the Caribbean and have spent a lot of time in Asia. If this is a sock of Anyone, I give Jackson permission to post my name in this forum, right now right here.

If you guys want to fight instead of real talk about places you have been, have at it. I am not joining the fray. If you find no value in the things I said in my first post, scroll up or down.

[Member #4393]

I feel that, given how poor an idea making a 1-post sock puppet is, it's more likely someone from his Colombia site came to whiteknight for him without realizing the implications of having someone's first post defend one person and discredit another.


I feel that, given how poor an idea making a 1-post sock puppet is, it's more likely someone from his Colombia site came to whiteknight for him without realizing the implications of having someone's first post defend one person and discredit another.Neither. I am a guy who hasn't posted that lives part time in Medellin, part time in the states. I don't post on the other site, at least not yet. If I don't find a place here I just might go take a look. In the past before I was coming so much to Medellin I stayed with Jake for several days. If I was here to "white knight" Jonesie, I would have said bad things about Jake, which I did not. I described his apartment, said real things about the cleanliness, how many bedrooms which is always reported wrong, including from Jake, said he was a nice guy, said I would recommend him with a caveat (which is if you want maid service and a clean place and privacy, go elsewhere. If you want to party hard with young girls and don't mind that stuff, go there). I tried to give a real review, something that is supposed to be done on these types of sites. You may have noticed that some of my information about Jake's place directly contradicted what Jonesie said about it, including the number of bathrooms, rooms, etc. If you don't appreciate my post, bug off.

As far as white knighting Jonesie, all I said is people talk and I hadn't heard of him getting beat up. I said not one thing, positive or negative about him. We used to post pictures online and it always led to problems. Always. Idiots like indicated in the previous post tell the girls their picture is up and the shit hits the fan.

This site is full of petulant children, much different than it was years ago when I was a senior member of the DR forum under a different name. I stopped posting due to a relationship that ended a few years ago and have been lurking. Just so you know, I have been to the Dr over a hundred times, have lived in two different places in Colombia, have traveled extensively in Peru, Argentina (hey Jackson, long time no see) all over the Caribbean and have spent a lot of time in Asia. If this is a sock of Anyone, I give Jackson permission to post my name in this forum, right now right here.

If you guys want to fight instead of real talk about places you have been, have at it. I am not joining the fray. If you find no value in the things I said in my first post, scroll up or down.

As far as Angie, she is known far and wide in Poblado. I never knew she was working in a casa, but she certainly shows up a lot as a freelancer and I do think people should be careful ordering girls off Facebook for the reasons I stated. Any more questions?

[Member #4393]

All I got to say to this is posting photos on websites without getting permission is just stupid on top Classless. Secondly I know for sure Angie is looking for a photo of Jonesie. Let's see him post his fucking photos on this website and we will see how good he feels after being visited by some good old Barrio guys. Angie messaged me yesterday asking for Jonesie photos. Obviously she wants to know who has posted photos not to say Hello, to him.

For the record I did not even mention her nothing about this post she on her own find out and was wanting to know who the guy is that posted those photos.

I don't come to Colombia to get involved in stupidities. So I told her I will see who the guy is but bottom line I have no interest in partaking with any of this mess.

All I got to say the Girl of the month is looking for you Jonesie.

It only takes one bad move on our part as gringos to get into very bad situations in Colombia.


John.Jesus christ I don't think I want to stay around here, you guys are narking each other out about photos? What the Hell?

[Jonesie]

Angie messaged me yesterday asking for Jonesie photos. Obviously she wants to know who has posted photos not to say Hello, to him.

John.Most of that is true. Except you left out the part about she messaged you. BACK.

I'll never understand why guys do this. I doubt in the history of the hobby, any women has given a snitch-discount to a guy ratting out his fellow mongers. Is there some kind of imaginary sense of intimacy involved? Do they fantasize about playing house with these girls? Based on what, the strength of him being a rat?

[Old Parr]

All I got to say to this is posting photos on websites without getting permission is just stupid on top Classless. Secondly I know for sure Angie is looking for a photo of Jonesie. Let's see him post his fucking photos on this website and we will see how good he feels after being visited by some good old Barrio guys. Angie messaged me yesterday asking for Jonesie photos. Obviously she wants to know who has posted photos not to say Hello, to him.

For the record I did not even mention her nothing about this post she on her own find out and was wanting to know who the guy is that posted those photos.

I don't come to Colombia to get involved in stupidities. So I told her I will see who the guy is but bottom line I have no interest in partaking with any of this mess.

All I got to say the Girl of the month is looking for you Jonesie.

It only takes one bad move on our part as gringos to get into very bad situations in Colombia.

So guys be careful here. Be safe. Always assume that when you take photos of girls is for yourself and never for public distribution, that is a normal human assumption. Further if you are in Colombia always assume that if you were to post the pics on websites it can hurt you very bad in the long run.

JohnThat is "Real Talk" and you are absolutely correct John. Referring back to a previous post of mine, I will never forget the problems that were created when that stupid motherfuker walked into LDV in Cartagena with the copied photos in his hand of two of my friends that worked at LDV that I had posted on this forum. It destroyed a very good friendship for one, and secondly it taught me a very valuable lesson. I have to say I was watching my own back in fear of retaliation for months, especially in Cartagena where it is a big city, but a small one at the same time, as everyone knows everybody, especially like me who was a monthly visitor at the time.

[Dickhead]

Maybe his parents immigrated to America when Kiev was in the commie period.Then it was part of the Soviet Union. That still doesn't make it part of Russia. It was the "Ukranian Soviet Socialist Republic. ".

[Member #4393]

That is "Real Talk" and you are absolutely correct John. Referring back to a previous post of mine, I will never forget the problems that were created when that stupid motherfuker walked into LDV in Cartagena with the copied photos in his hand of two of my friends that worked at LDV that I had posted on this forum. It destroyed a very good friendship for one, and secondly it taught me a very valuable lesson. I have to say I was watching my own back in fear of retaliation for months, especially in Cartagena where it is a big city, but a small one at the same time, as everyone knows everybody, especially like me who was a monthly visitor at the time.Was this during a time with a bunch of guys from an old forum were there, like 15 of us and the initials of the forum was SMV? If so, I know you and I know the guy who did that. If it isn't, then it was just another time some idiot ratted out on someone from a forum because he thought it made him big in the eyes of some working girl. I see a lot hasn't changed.

If it was that time, some 12 years or so ago, Then that is a clue to whom I am and we may be friends irl. Please just indicate whether it was or not and then if so give me a way to contact you outside of the forum. You can confirm for sure I am not "jonesie or anybody else.

[Colombia Jake]

You don't have to be a detective to see that I wrote an open ended question on whether anyone heard about someone getting beat up in centro without using any names? If Jonesie hadn't replied there may not have been another mention of it but he came back and out of no where to attack and defend. Yes, he knew that I knew what happened to him, but rather than waiting for someone to say his name he obviously showed his guilt. At this point just come clean and tell us what happened, was it two or three guys were they armed did they warn you and did you get in a few good shots?

Hey I have a nice washer and dryer and I have a professional named Luisa who comes by to clean and who also gives a great massage and more, so the place is clean enough, but if you here to have your bed made every day my place is not for you! We are here for guys who want to get laid by young fun girls that are not giving them the time of day in the states, because the uptight USA culture doesn't allow it. Even seasoned guys with Spanish can't just arrive and pull something nice to go have a nice date and sex with. I don't care what some of these guys say. I'm not looking for (Jonsie) monger types who just want a nut and go back to being by themselves. The guys that come here are usually professionals and like to go out and have fun, party sometimes dance and know their going to score with their date later in the evening, whether it 11 pm or 12 during the weekday, or 1 or 2 am during the weekends, because these girls have lives, some go to school and some have to be home because these girls are decent girls, and some guys do find a spark of love from time to time! Pictured below is so much fun to party with and get a little crazy with!

Thanks,

Colombia Jake

[Mr Adventure]

That is "Real Talk" and you are absolutely correct John. Referring back to a previous post of mine, I will never forget the problems that were created when that stupid motherfuker walked into LDV in Cartagena with the copied photos in his hand of two of my friends that worked at LDV that I had posted on this forum. It destroyed a very good friendship for one, and secondly it taught me a very valuable lesson. I have to say I was watching my own back in fear of retaliation for months, especially in Cartagena where it is a big city, but a small one at the same time, as everyone knows everybody, especially like me who was a monthly visitor at the time.In CR, it's not uncommon for ticos to go in asking for particular girls based on good reviews the see on their FOROS site which is huge, BTW. Some chicas think of it as advertising, but some wish to remain as anonymous as possible.

If someone recommends a girl who works at a particular casa. I then print copied photos, go to the mamasan and ask if this girl is available, because I heard good things about her. Did I just commit a faux pax the equivalent of slapping the baby Jesus?

OR is the problem the fact that a girl does not want any pic or information out there PERIOD because she doesn't want to take a chance getting caught doing what she isn't supposed to be doing? IOW she doesn't ever want anyone she knows to know about it. In that case the "real villain" is the guy who posted the pics, that were supposed to be for him only, which he agreed not to put on the internet but did. Now that he's been caught lying he tries to turn it around and shift the blame some newby who is simply trying to locate a particular girl?

[Advantageous]

Neither. I am a guy who hasn't posted that lives part time in Medellin, part time in the states. I don't post on the other site, at least not yet. If I don't find a place here I just might go take a look. In the past before I was coming so much to Medellin I stayed with Jake for several days. If I was here to "white knight" Jonesie, I would have said bad things about Jake, which I did not. I described his apartment, said real things about the cleanliness, how many bedrooms which is always reported wrong, including from Jake, said he was a nice guy, said I would recommend him with a caveat (which is if you want maid service and a clean place and privacy, go elsewhere. If you want to party hard with young girls and don't mind that stuff, go there). I tried to give a real review, something that is supposed to be done on these types of sites. You may have noticed that some of my information about Jake's place directly contradicted what Jonesie said about it, including the number of bathrooms, rooms, etc. If you don't appreciate my post, bug off.Whoa, whoa, whoa; put the six-shooters away, amigo. My apologies if you are in fact not Jonesie, but you've got to think about how your first post looks to a stranger, especially without any of the background information you subsequently provided. I think most forums develop a slightly standoffish mentality due to the underlying secrecy and need to watch one's own back within our hobby. My thinking had nothing to do with criticizing your resume, LOL -- I'm a Colombia rookie myself, but my first non-Tijuana experience in Latin America was Sosua after roughly a half-decade of mongering in Asia. Having said that, I also don't expect people to know that about me the first time I post, and I make an effort to post accordingly, as it's hard to trust the words of an unknown, uncredentialed person -- both in real life and on a forum.

Again, sorry if I caused any offense, and welcome to the CO boards.


Jesus christ I don't think I want to stay around here, you guys are narking each other out about photos? What the Hell?Well don't run too far, because that's just how Latin America-centric boards are these days. Regardless of the country, "How much should I pay?" and "Should I post photos of girls if _ are common fare, and thus get argued about more than other topics as well. Sometimes you got to sift through the muck to get to the gold.

[Old Parr]

Jesus christ I don't think I want to stay around here, you guys are narking each other out about photos? What the Hell?
Most of that is true. Except you left out the part about she messaged you. BACK.

I'll never understand why guys do this. I doubt in the history of the hobby, any women has given a snitch-discount to a guy ratting out his fellow mongers. Is there some kind of imaginary sense of intimacy involved? Do they fantasize about playing house with these girls? Based on what, the strength of him being a rat?TimeToPlay made his post at 8:53 am.

Jonsie made his post at 9:01 am.

Very hilarious, but they are not one of the same. LMFAO.

[Combo]

Wait. This Angie's photo is posted here and a day later she's asking who did it? Does this sound a little screwy to anyone here?

Who is the panty-waste that informed her of this? That was a piece-of-shit stunt, whoever did it. And I say this generally having fondness for my fellow mongers. One can make a pretty good guess.

[EstebanH]

Wait. This Angie's photo is posted here and a day later she's asking who did it? Does this sound a little screwy to anyone here?

Who is the panty-waste that informed her of this? That was a piece-of-shit stunt, whoever did it. And I say this generally having fondness for my fellow mongers. One can make a pretty good guess.Exacatamente!

You can hate Jonsie for posting a picture but the real douche is the guy who told her.

[Member #4398]

I don't believe you for a minute.

OK GUYS, ATTENTION:

Do not mention names of girls on this forum. Do not mention anything on here except the weather, restaurants, etc. Forget about pictures.

Because of guys like this, anything written here will be communicated to the girls. It happens over and over.
Pretty pathetic, really.

Two guys from this forum are actively discussing what goes on here with Angie. Little beta bitches that they are.Can we talk about the serous stuff. The chronicles of Jonesie and Jake is becoming tiringl. StevanH can you share more of what happened to your blind friend in Sosua? You posted that he needed some help in Sosua when he was going on a Puta excursion and that he knew martial arts. Here is your post from the DR board:

"Help from the brothers.

Guys,

I am trying to help a young friend out. He is a 22 year old guy who wants to move to Dominican Republic. He asked me for help because I travel to other parts of central / south America, but I have never been to Dominican Republic. This young guy is very outgoing and resourceful but he is blind. He is also a martial arts expert (trainer) and can handle himself very well (he is actually a deadly guy if he has an issue). He thinks he wants to move to either Santo Domingo, Santiago or Puerto Plata. Ideally, I want to get him set up in a Spanish immersion course (he speaks no Spanish). I think helping place him in a home where they help with the Spanish immersion would probably help. He is a not a monger and wants to find a girl friend.

If any of you guys can help me, I would appreciate it. I would really enjoy speaking with you by phone. Please PM me if you are inclined to help.

Thanks in advance!

[BoredInIN]

I know how it is when you're sitting back in the states and want to read real reports filled with stories about young sexy ladies so I will try to recall some details from my trip. This was my second trip to Medellion and I still have basically no Spanish skills but with a little effort and patience it's still possible to have a blast here. I will say there has been some increased coverages of taxi robbings going on here. Guys can do as they please but my advice is just to try to limit yourself as a target. When I went out I always pretty much wear jeans or cargo pants and a plan solid T, no watch no jewelry, and sneakers. I know this has been debated to nausea on here, so I'll leave it at that. I will admit there are still times in centro where I have gotten disoriented or struggled to find a place, but my strategy is to always walk like I know where I'm going and on a mission even if that means extra walking or circling back. By doing these steps I have never felt worried about my safety or had any issues with any locals.

I started each of my days with casa runs, usually favoring half hour visits for between 35-38 pesos depending on the casa. I found new life to be the busiest during my trips with the most girls and customers. Sexy amigas my fav from last trip was down a little in terms of quality, coffee shop had a cute older hostess available, puntachicas.com had larger line ups but not many flacitas. I was about 50% at getting BBBJ. Zandalay hit me with and extra 10 k pesos for it either being Halloween or Saturday whatever not that big of deal but we all know it was a gringo tax.

I really liked the progress conijeatas is making on there rooms, those are some nice fuck chambers. I found the quality to be down there a little bit as well but I wasn't there late at night. Hit up bar exutiva and the one right next to it. It was Friday right before Halloween and these places were hopping with sexy ladies. Spent most of my time at bar E due to the place next door painting the restrooms and making the whole place smell like gasoline. Bar E had one of the sexiest girls I've seen this trip, "My", but she was dumb and spent the whole night talking to her co workers instead of working the room. I thought about pulling the trigger on Allison the red head and she knows how to work the stage but saw this young Selena Gomez look alike and went with her instead. Her sex performance was pretty weak but she was damn hot so she was still okay with me. 70 k.

Finally I got the whatsapp of a girl from a member here, I liked her so much I ended up over nighting her twice. She was by far the most GFE of my trip, I've never been attacked with DFK from a working girl like I was her, hours of GFE love making, every position possible and stayed longer than I expected each time. She was also smoking hot, nice a skinny, with the best set of DSL I've seen in Medellion. I paid her 250 k each night, possibly could of gone lower, but I try to be fair and she earned it. BTW, she is looking for customers.

Side note, I enjoyed the food, everybody always complains about the food but I find the service to be way worse than the food. I usually ate good meals in centro during the day of fish, bean soup, and sides for under 9 k.

[Lefeu]

I found new life to be the busiest during my trips with the most girls and customers. Sexy amigas my fav from last trip was down a little in terms of quality, coffee shop had a cute older hostess available, puntachicas.com had larger line ups but not many flacitas. I was about 50% at getting BBBJ. Zandalay hit me with and extra 10 k pesos for it either being Halloween or Saturday whatever not that big of deal but we all know it was a gringo tax.

I really liked the progress conijeatas is making on there rooms, those are some nice fuck chambers. I found the quality to be down there a little bit as well but I wasn't there late at night. Hit up bar exutiva and the one right next to it. It was Friday right before Halloween and these places were hopping with sexy ladies. Spent most of my time at bar E due to the place next door painting the restrooms and making the whole place smell like gasoline. Bar E had one of the sexiest girls I've seen this trip, "My", but she was dumb and spent the whole night talking to her co workers instead of working the room. I thought about pulling the trigger on Allison the red head and she knows how to work the stage but saw this young Selena Gomez look alike and went with her instead. Her sex performance was pretty weak but she was damn hot so she was still okay with me. 70 k.Nice report! But you could have skipped that first paragraph, easier to read. Taxi ripoff and safety concerns have been discussed ad nauseam.

[BoredInIN]

Nice report! But you could have skipped that first paragraph, easier to read. Taxi ripoff and safety concerns have been discussed ad nauseam.I considered leaving it out, but I just wanted to give lurkers and newbies some reassurance that Medellion can be safe and fun for non Spanish speakers if they are aware of their surroundings.

[Mr Adventure]

Who is the panty-waste that informed her of this? That was a piece-of-shit stunt, whoever did it. And I say this generally having fondness for my fellow mongers. One can make a pretty good guess.
Exacatamente!

You can hate Jonsie for posting a picture but the real douche is the guy who told her.Even a child can see that the whole problem begins with a lie, then betrayal by the guy who posts unauthorized pics. If he didn't do that there would be NO problem, period, end of story.

Your backwards logic wouldn't get past a jury of 1st graders, much less some outed chica's brothers. Being in Colombia does not relieve anyone of personal responsibility. That's like the guys who blames the chicken, which he let out, when it comes home to roost and shits all over his car.

[John]

Agreed 1000%. I don't approve of Jonesie posting the photos but whoever did sent Angie any kind of information on the board, that person is a bigger douche bag. By the way Jonesie, I am sure we don't know each other but rest assured I did not message Angie. I have not seen her for a while and 99.9% have no intention of seeing her for my self ever again unless I get stuck in medellin without a girl at 4 am and she is available to jump in taxi I am done with her and those who know me very well know this.

I did meet Angie sometime ago and have only had one session with her so not a repeat for me. She is beautiful does good service but she is not something I am looking for bottom line I have not much to gain by ratting you out here.

John.


Wait. This Angie's photo is posted here and a day later she's asking who did it? Does this sound a little screwy to anyone here?

Who is the panty-waste that informed her of this? That was a piece-of-shit stunt, whoever did it. And I say this generally having fondness for my fellow mongers. One can make a pretty good guess.

[Member #4393]

In CR, it's not uncommon for ticos to go in asking for particular girls based on good reviews the see on their FOROS site which is huge, BTW. Some chicas think of it as advertising, but some wish to remain as anonymous as possible.

If someone recommends a girl who works at a particular casa. I then print copied photos, go to the mamasan and ask if this girl is available, because I heard good things about her. Did I just commit a faux pax the equivalent of slapping the baby Jesus?This is exactly why I would never post a pic, ever. If you are copying pics off of the net and handing them to a mamasan or girl, you have just do e what Old Parr complains about and pretty much what just happened in this thread. Does no one else see this? Don't you understand this can set off a chain of events that endangers the person who posted?

Old Parr your detective work not withstanding, my posting time is irrelevant because I am on moderation and whatever I write gets posted at the whim of a moderator. I am typing this at 7:30 am EST from the states.

[Member #4393]

Even a child can see that the whole problem begins with a lie, then betrayal by the guy who posts unauthorized pics. If he didn't do that there would be NO problem, period, end of story.

Your backwards logic wouldn't get past a jury of 1st graders, much less some outed chica's brothers. Being in Colombia does not relieve anyone of personal responsibility. That's like the guys who blames the chicken, which he let out, when it comes home to roost and shits all over his car.You must be new to this type of forum. At least 90 percent of the photos on every site are not taken with permission and intended for the use / benefit of the forum members only. Printing said pics and bringing them to the cases as you indicated in a prior post, or admonishing the person taking the pic is not really what normally transpires on a sex forum.

[Paladin1987]

In CR, it's not uncommon for ticos to go in asking for particular girls based on good reviews the see on their FOROS site which is huge, BTW. Some chicas think of it as advertising, but some wish to remain as anonymous as possible.

If someone recommends a girl who works at a particular casa. I then print copied photos, go to the mamasan and ask if this girl is available, because I heard good things about her. Did I just commit a faux pax the equivalent of slapping the baby Jesus?

OR is the problem the fact that a girl does not want any pic or information out there PERIOD because she doesn't want to take a chance getting caught doing what she isn't supposed to be doing? IOW she doesn't ever want anyone she knows to know about it. In that case the "real villain" is the guy who posted the pics, that were supposed to be for him only, which he agreed not to put on the internet but did. Now that he's been caught lying he tries to turn it around and shift the blame some newby who is simply trying to locate a particular girl?If you pull out a picture, you have outed someone who is trying to help the community (meaning you!) and, the girl who needs to build a book of regular, sane, horny gringo clients on basically, the down-low. Do what you can to nurture a Professional Working Relationship with these women, meaning, Don't serve up a made-to-Order reason for her or the Mamasan to go ape-shit bat-fuck crazy on you for not understanding their culture (or the helpful monger trying to level the playing field for the Newbie like you). Prostitution is legal in Colombia but she probably doesn't want her family or neighbors knowing she isn't going to an office job. If you like them 18-20 and thin say so if you think it might help, but don't flash a mug shot or a nude. Read the Forums. You have hours of homework to be informed. And it can be fun reading. But photos are a No Go. Discussions of other clients, unless he gave you her # and gave you an intro / called her, is not well received in our world or their culture. Being 'presented' or vouched for is huge in the Latin world. It is how things are done. Try to respect that with fellow mongers intel when speaking with the ladies. In short, treat the information you get here as if you are being given the exam questions and answers for the final exam without the teacher's knowledge. Get it? You are treated as an above average student / client, and it keeps you from giving papaya. Dar Papaya. Don't spoil it for the next guy and remember these gals have rent to pay in a world where the avg person makes $1-1.50 USD a an hour. You are giving them more than a days pay at COP 35-60 K for a half hour to an hour of their time in private. Even of they are looking to build a book of clients, remember they want their private lives to stay private. Like you want your private life to stay private back home. If all the secretaries / co-workers / neighbors knew you were going to Medellin to bust a nut with younger-than-they-are hotties for chump change so you could escape their Feminist Pussy Prison, how would that affect you? Act accordingly. Don't out Mongers. Don't show photos. If she won't agree to your price and terms, walk. You have the ultimate negotiating tool- cash. The whole fucking town, and the particular massage parlor you are in, is loaded with gorgeous Latin vaginas, and there is another Massage Parlor just around the corner and they know it! If you can't work your deal, walk. Don't pull out visual aides. If someone vouches for you with a text to a girl, act like you are brand new to town and just needed a little nudge to find some company and got lucky. Simple. "I'm new to town" (with confidence) will take you a long way. Last, a tip of 10-20 K cop is 2-6 bucks, if she gave you a solid effort, is a nice touch. Skip lunch back home 1 time and let her know you appreciated her effort. You will be remembered. If questioned, you 'heard it at the bar' and give an I-don't-care / know-what-the-fuck-you-are-talking-about stare to the person asking the question of you.

[The Tall Man]

I know how it is when you're sitting back in the states and want to read real reports filled with stories about young sexy ladies so I will try to recall some details from my trip. This was my second trip to Medellion and I still have basically no Spanish skills but with a little effort and patience it's still possible to have a blast here. I will say there has been some increased coverages of taxi robbings going on here. Guys can do as they please but my advice is just to try to limit yourself as a target. When I went out I always pretty much wear jeans or cargo pants and a plan solid T, no watch no jewelry, and sneakers. I know this has been debated to nausea on here, so I'll leave it at that. I will admit there are still times in centro where I have gotten disoriented or struggled to find a place, but my strategy is to always walk like I know where I'm going and on a mission even if that means extra walking or circling back. By doing these steps I have never felt worried about my safety or had any issues with any locals.

I started each of my days with casa runs, usually favoring half hour visits for between 35-38 pesos depending on the casa. I found new life to be the busiest during my trips with the most girls and customers. Sexy amigas my fav from last trip was down a little in terms of quality, coffee shop had a cute older hostess available, puntachicas.com had larger line ups but not many flacitas. I was about 50% at getting BBBJ. Zandalay hit me with and extra 10 k pesos for it either being Halloween or Saturday whatever not that big of deal but we all know it was a gringo tax.

I really liked the progress conijeatas is making on there rooms, those are some nice fuck chambers. I found the quality to be down there a little bit as well but I wasn't there late at night. Hit up bar exutiva and the one right next to it. It was Friday right before Halloween and these places were hopping with sexy ladies. Spent most of my time at bar E due to the place next door painting the restrooms and making the whole place smell like gasoline. Bar E had one of the sexiest girls I've seen this trip, "My", but she was dumb and spent the whole night talking to her co workers instead of working the room. I thought about pulling the trigger on Allison the red head and she knows how to work the stage but saw this young Selena Gomez look alike and went with her instead. Her sex performance was pretty weak but she was damn hot so she was still okay with me. 70 k.

Finally I got the whatsapp of a girl from a member here, I liked her so much I ended up over nighting her twice. She was by far the most GFE of my trip, I've never been attacked with DFK from a working girl like I was her, hours of GFE love making, every position possible and stayed longer than I expected each time. She was also smoking hot, nice a skinny, with the best set of DSL I've seen in Medellion. I paid her 250 k each night, possibly could of gone lower, but I try to be fair and she earned it. BTW, she is looking for customers.

Side note, I enjoyed the food, everybody always complains about the food but I find the service to be way worse than the food. I usually ate good meals in centro during the day of fish, bean soup, and sides for under 9 k.I'm curious, where are you staying? Hotel? Any issues with bringing your over nighter back to your hotel room? And yes please could you share your over nighter girls name and whatsapp with a fellow. Pm me please.

Thanks,

The Tall Man.

BTW I'm in MDE this weekend.

[Jonesie]

Even a child can see that the whole problem begins with a lie, then betrayal by the guy who posts unauthorized pics. If he didn't do that there would be NO problem, period, end of story.

Your backwards logic wouldn't get past a jury of 1st graders, much less some outed chica's brothers. Being in Colombia does not relieve anyone of personal responsibility. That's like the guys who blames the chicken, which he let out, when it comes home to roost and shits all over his car.See the button on the bottom of this thread that says 'attach photos'? Why do you think that was put there? Now, I'll admit, there seems to be a grassroots movement lately that believes it exists to take pictures of food, the intent is to have members post pics of their adventures, adventures means women.

The debate about pics or no pics is longstanding. The same logic could be applied to posting at all. You and John seem to think that justifies showing the girls their pics, and this site. I'm not seeing the connection.

If boards like this one and mine didn't exist, 80% of us would still be stuck in the US, banging the wife once a month and thinking the whole world does it that way. While I'm sure the guys from the late 90's would enjoy that, the rest of us that came afterwards appreciate someone lighting the way.

[Member #4393]

I guess I am in culture shock. It has been several years since I posted here, and I can't even imagine someone coming to one of these boards and actually admonishing the old timers for posting pics and reviews, and at the same time basically admitting he has printed pics of girls and handed them to the casa owners. In most forums that would be an auto-bann for life. Instead, the forum censors people for being 'argumentative' and lets this nonsense go on, and the members get wrapped up accusing each other of alleged crimes against each other and / or in my case, of being someone else's sock while basically ignoring someone admitting they are printing pics and handing them to casa owners. WTH?

Meanwhile guys are mongering in places like Medellin where an angry freelancer can have you offed for a hundred bucks or so, or make your life miserable in a multitude of ways. Many of these girls have family and friends and would be extremely ashamed to have them find out what they are doing. They also have hope that someone will marry them, and don't want to be outed as a prepago. However, NO ONE would ever know outside of the mongering community that their pictures were posted (they are unsearchable on any search engine) and the report actually benefits the good girls, in fact guys flock to them in droves and avoid the bad girls. This improves the entire lot for everyone. So who benefits from the pics and reports? The good girls and the guys that read the reports. Who gets hurt? Only The bad girls who lose business and no one else gets hurt until some clown comes along and ruins it for everyone else.

So no sir, the problem isn't the "lie" and then the "betrayal". If you believe that you are at odds with the vast majority of people who post here and post at all other sex forums. The few guys who still post pics and / or reports with names are either crazy or brave as hell, but hell nah, not this old timer. I am not taking a hit just so I can make the life easy for the next guy, especially after witnessing the fiasco going on in this thread. This also isn't anything new, people were printing pics years and years ago and telling girls "I read about you" on such and such forum. The entire idealized philosophy that grown men can share a private community for the benefit of everyone has been ruined by this behavior.

[Member #4393]

Old Parr your detective work not withstanding, my posting time is irrelevant because I am on moderation and whatever I write gets posted at the whim of a moderator. I am typing this at 7:30 am EST from the states.And now I see it posts the actual time I wrote it, but doesn't actually get posted until approved. This explains why the posts are out of order in a moderated thread. Interesting.

[Member #4393]

Side note, I enjoyed the food, everybody always complains about the food but I find the service to be way worse than the food. I usually ate good meals in centro during the day of fish, bean soup, and sides for under 9 k.I really don't know why people don't like the food in Medellin. Almost every rest. In Park LLeras is really good and cheap. Further up the hill, the places in Provenza are even better. The prices are a fraction of what a comparable dinner back home costs.

Heck, even some of the menu del DIA places are fantastic and about 10-15 mil pesos for lunch including salad, fresh juice, meat and rice.

I love the food in Medellin.

[UncleMonger]

See the button on the bottom of this thread that says 'attach photos'? Why do you think that was put there? Now, I'll admit, there seems to be a grassroots movement lately that believes it exists to take pictures of food, the intent is to have members post pics of their adventures, adventures means women.

The debate about pics or no pics is longstanding. The same logic could be applied to posting at all. You and John seem to think that justifies showing the girls their pics, and this site. I'm not seeing the connection.

If boards like this one and mine didn't exist, 80% of us would still be stuck in the US, banging the wife once a month and thinking the whole world does it that way. While I'm sure the guys from the late 90's would enjoy that, the rest of us that came afterwards appreciate someone lighting the way.I am in Medellin right now and went to mansion last night. Picked up a awesome girl named Elena. Brought her over and I brought up this subject that everyone is talking about pictures and how we do reviews and asked her what she thought about her pic being posted with a review. She said " si! Es Bueno! Mad dinero why clientes para me" translation, yes that's a good thing. More money and clients for me. I guess at the end of the day it just depends on the girl.

[Mr Enternational]

The whole fucking town, and the particular massage parlor you are in, is LOADED with gorgeous latin vaginas, and there is ANOTHER Massage Parlor just around the corner and they know it! If you can't work your deal, walk.And this is why I don't get the idea of guys insisting on having a girl that someone else had or asking the contact info of a particular girl as if she was the only show in town. You know where all the girls are and there are tons of them. Why not go choose your own? Point me to the restaurant and I will look at the menu and decide what I want to eat. I wouldn't run inside the restaurant with a picture someone posted on facebook and say give me this exact meal that they had. Or is it that guys are stuck at home horny and see a picture and develop fantasies of a particular girl because they are so hard up?

[Mr Enternational]

When I was in Lima in July, Tequila Rocks in Miraflores had closed down.Must have been closed for a holiday or something. My friend was there the other day and said the girls there were asking $200.

[Don Smith 10]

And this is why I don't get the idea of guys insisting on having a girl that someone else had or asking the contact info of a particular girl as if she was the only show in town. You know where all the girls are and there are tons of them. Why not go choose your own? Point me to the restaurant and I will look at the menu and decide what I want to eat. I wouldn't run inside the restaurant with a picture someone posted on facebook and say give me this exact meal that they had. Or is it that guys are stuck at home horny and see a picture and develop fantasies of a particular girl because they are so hard up?Excellent response! You got that right. I like your report. Thanks.

[SBeach25]

See the button on the bottom of this thread that says 'attach photos'? Why do you think that was put there? Now, I'll admit, there seems to be a grassroots movement lately that believes it exists to take pictures of foodWhaaat?! This isn't the food network or Trip Advisor. Damn it. Here I thought I was helping fellow members enjoy the culture and fine dining. LOL. Guys, really this is getting pretty stupid. What's done is done. Yes, there IS a RAT on this forum. This entire site and forum was based on trust and sharing amongst us as fellow HOBBIESTS. What does that mean, well, by joining, reading / writing on this site you already took a quasi oath to keep this among other members. Why else are you here? Why go out to find out who Jonsies is and want to harp and then tell this chica "Look! I saw a thread and pic about you" Why!? Youv'e gained knowledge to help you integrate with these girls and yes Most are very sweet girls. And then you come back and harp on a brotherhood? Come on Man, cut that SH*t out!! Let's please move forward. This is a brotherhood, you joined because of your own free will. If you don't like it, close your account and don't ask other brothers for input. Can someone just please delete the bickering posts so that we can get back to what we are here for?

[Mr Adventure]

See the button on the bottom of this thread that says 'attach photos'? Why do you think that was put there? Now, I'll admit, there seems to be a grassroots movement lately that believes it exists to take pictures of food, the intent is to have members post pics of their adventures, adventures means women.

The debate about pics or no pics is longstanding. The same logic could be applied to posting at all. You and John seem to think that justifies showing the girls their pics, and this site. I'm not seeing the connection.

If boards like this one and mine didn't exist, 80% of us would still be stuck in the US, banging the wife once a month and thinking the whole world does it that way. While I'm sure the guys from the late 90's would enjoy that, the rest of us that came afterwards appreciate someone lighting the way.That's an easy one, the button if for posting pics of girls with their permission, you do know the difference, you just don't give a fuck. Guys like you and Cubadave are peas in a pod, you've both posted pics w / o permission, for the purpose of profit, as well as stroking huge egos. IMO, you should be sitting alongside him in CR.

I never said anything to that effect nor is it even necessary. There's nothing to stop a girl from joining either site and discover that Jonesie, who promised that he would not put her pic online, did. Theoretically, if I was friends w / girl and knew for certain that she wanted to remain anonymous and saw that some selfish MF'er posted then yes, I would tell her.

I know that according to the "Jonesie bro code", that would make me a "rat", a term you seem to use a lot. But the only people who really use that term are snake-in-the grass types whose misdeeds have been exposed by the truth. In this scenario I might be a tattletale, which I can live with because I'm not the one who lied and betrayed my friendship. If you still don't see the connection, I'll quote Connor McGregor "most people respect loyalty and despise betrayal".

If you and some of the others who see nothing wrong about posting unauthorized pics then lets see how you would feel if someone posted YOUR pics? Many hunters would reconsider their hobby, if the deer had rifles, and could shoot back.

As far as your site goes, haha, if your site didn't exist nothing would be any different in MDE or CR, except that guys like me would not have gotten suckered into wasting their money on a membership. You've heard of books right, well mongering was alive and well long before the invention of the internet. Slither on Jonesie.

[Member #4393]

Must have been closed for a holiday or something. My friend was there the other day and said the girls there were asking $200.Might as well be closed. Tequila Rocks used to be fantastic. You could get Lima girls and girls from the jungle for 50-100 all night. Then about 5 years ago the Colombian girls started showing up in numbers and were so much hotter than the locals and started demanding and getting the $200 and up. This ruined the place. Some of these girls were well known in LDV back in the day.

[Member #4393]

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[Combo]

I really don't know why people don't like the food in Medellin. Almost every rest. In Park LLeras is really good and cheap. Further up the hill, the places in Provenza are even better. The prices are a fraction of what a comparable dinner back home costs.

Heck, even some of the menu del DIA places are fantastic and about 10-15 mil pesos for lunch including salad, fresh juice, meat and rice.

I love the food in Medellin.I agree, but to be fair, the "food isn't great in MDE" folks are "foodies" who really enjoy fine dining -- the caliber that you find in NY or Tokyo. In S. America, they're only going to be happy in Sao Paulo (fantastic), Buenos Aires, or Lima. MDE doesn't have fine dining, but the food can be quite good and reasonably-priced. It's certainly way ahead of the DR or Cuba (save a few Paladares).

The vast majority of us just want a sunny, warm place with hot women. MDE does just fine there and the food is decent enough.

[Mr Adventure]

I guess I am in culture shock. It has been several years since I posted here, and I can't even imagine someone coming to one of these boards and actually admonishing the old timers for posting pics and reviews, and at the same time basically admitting he has printed pics of girls and handed them to the casa owners. In most forums that would be an auto-bann for life. Instead, the forum censors people for being 'argumentative' and lets this nonsense go on, and the members get wrapped up accusing each other of alleged crimes against each other and / or in my case, of being someone else's sock while basically ignoring someone admitting they are printing pics and handing them to casa owners. WTH?

Meanwhile guys are mongering in places like Medellin where an angry freelancer can have you offed for a hundred bucks or so, or make your life miserable in a multitude of ways. Many of these girls have family and friends and would be extremely ashamed to have them find out what they are doing. They also have hope that someone will marry them, and don't want to be outed as a prepago. However, NO ONE would ever know outside of the mongering community that their pictures were posted (they are unsearchable on any search engine) and the report actually benefits the good girls, in fact guys flock to them in droves and avoid the bad girls. This improves the entire lot for everyone. So who benefits from the pics and reports? The good girls and the guys that read the reports. Who gets hurt? Only The bad girls who lose business and no one else gets hurt until some clown comes along and ruins it for everyone else.

So no sir, the problem isn't the "lie" and then the "betrayal". If you believe that you are at odds with the vast majority of people who post here and post at all other sex forums. The few guys who still post pics and / or reports with names are either crazy or brave as hell, but hell nah, not this old timer. I am not taking a hit just so I can make the life easy for the next guy, especially after witnessing the fiasco going on in this thread. This also isn't anything new, people were printing pics years and years ago and telling girls "I read about you" on such and such forum. The entire idealized philosophy that grown men can share a private community for the benefit of everyone has been ruined by this behavior.Your first paragraph is confusing. However as for your claims of admonishing, and suggesting auto-ban, show me where any member is required to agree. If you are implying that I printed pics and handed to casa owners, you are mistaken. I simply asked about it. I see two scenarios, 1st the girl likes the advertising and welcomes a new client, the 2nd someone posted the pics w / o permission and now there's trouble.

You clearly understand the harm and grief exposure can do to a girl and do not sound like someone that would like to see that happen. The notion that no one outside the mongering community would ever know about pics / report is OBSOLETE, there's nothing to stop a girl from joining forum and discovering them herself, or getting some guy to proxy. Also, a decade ago girls, their BF / hubby / family did not have access to the internet. In todays world there is no privacy online, people have lost their jobs by something they put in a personal email.

I have no issue with anyone posting pics provided they have permission. I disagree with your assessment that a majority of guys on forums think it's OK to lie to a girl and post her pics, I think the majority of guys have better character, they just may not vocalize it. You can spin it any way you like, and get a million guys to agree with you, but it won't change the fact that lying is unacceptable and most people hate liars with a passion, because deep down inside they know that every misdeed, deception or crime is preceded by a lie.

Sounds like some guys have truly lost touch with reality, they think it's OK to lie just because she is a prepago, and promote it as a kind of "Honor among thieves" mentality which we all know won't last long. The world is constantly changing, ie growing up as long as you weren't near houses or livestock, you could hunt, fish or ride a motorcycle just about anywhere without permission, today you'll get arrested. Nothing is like it used to be, and those who refuse to evolve shall become extinct, even internet forums.

As far as you not "making life easy for the next guy", don't flatter yourself. Even helpful information about a girl is of limited value as their situation changes rapidly. Anyone who has been doing this awhile knows that every guy has to plot his own course and cut his own trail.

[Member #4393]

I agree, but to be fair, the "food isn't great in MDE" folks are "foodies" who really enjoy fine dining -- the caliber that you find in NY or Tokyo. In S. America, they're only going to be happy in Sao Paulo (fantastic), Buenos Aires, or Lima. MDE doesn't have fine dining, but the food can be quite good and reasonably-priced. It's certainly way ahead of the DR or Cuba (save a few Paladares).

The vast majority of us just want a sunny, warm place with hot women. MDE does just fine there and the food is decent enough.Right on, also I don't want to drop 200 bucks on dinner for two. There are also some sleeper restaurants, like the Peruvian ceviche place in Provenza. Maybe someone could post a pic of the food without a crazed newbie running into the place with a copy of the post in his hand? Not likely.

[Charm City Dave]

And this is why I don't get the idea of guys insisting on having a girl that someone else had or asking the contact info of a particular girl as if she was the only show in town. You know where all the girls are and there are tons of them. Why not go choose your own? Point me to the restaurant and I will look at the menu and decide what I want to eat. I wouldn't run inside the restaurant with a picture someone posted on facebook and say give me this exact meal that they had. Or is it that guys are stuck at home horny and see a picture and develop fantasies of a particular girl because they are so hard up?Well I guess if all one cares about is a woman's looks, then you are 100% right, a recommendation is stupid. However I, and I suspect most here are interested in performance as well, or perhaps even more importantly than looks. So we appreciate recommendations when we can get them.

[Puntz79]

This is your FIRST post? You SURE chose a lot of ODD words to CAPITALIZE. Such as THE FINAL EXAM? Seriously?


If you pull out a picture, you have OUTTED someone who is trying to help the community (meaning YOU!) and, the girl who needs to build a book of regular, sane, horny gringo clients on basically, the down-low. Do what you can to nurture a Professional Working Relationship with these women, meaning, Don't serve up a made-to-Order reason for her or the Mamasan to go ape-shit bat-fuck crazy on you for not understanding their culture (or the helpful monger trying to level the playing field for the Newbie like you). Prostitution is legal in Colombia but she probably doesn't want her family or neighbors knowing she isn't going to an office job. If you like them 18-20 and thin ("joven a diezy seis a viente, and flaca" say so if you think it might help, but don't flash a mug shot or a nudie. Read the Forums. You have HOURS of homework to be informed. And it can be fun reading. But photos are a No Go. Discussions of other clients, unless he gave you her # and gave you an intro / called her, is not well received in our world or their culture. Being 'presented' or vouched for is HUGE in the latin world. It is how things are done. Try to respect that with fellow mongers intel when speaking with the ladies. In short, treat the information you get here as if you are being given the exam questions and ANSWERS for THE FINAL EXAM without the teacher's knowledge. Get it? You are treated as an above average student / client, and it keeps you from giving papaya. Dar Papaya. DON'T spoil it for the next guy and remember these gals have rent to pay in a world where the avg person makes $1-1. 50 USD a an hour. You are giving them more than a days pay at COP 35-60 K for a half hour to an hour of their time IN PRIVATE. Even of they are looking to build a book of clients, remember they want their private lives to stay PRIVATE. Like you want your PRIVATE life to stay PRIVATE back home. If all the secretaries / co-workers / neighbors knew you were going to Medellin to bust a nut with younger-than-they-are hotties for chump change so you could escape their Feminist Pussy Prison, how would that affect you? Act accordingly. Don't out Mongers. DON'T show photos. If she won't agree to your price and terms, walk. You have the ultimate negotiating tool- CASH. The whole fucking town, and the particular massage parlor you are in, is LOADED with gorgeous latin vaginas, and there is ANOTHER Massage Parlor just around the corner and they know it! If you can't work your deal, walk. Don't pull out visual aides. If someone vouches for you with a text to a girl, act like you are brand new to town and just needed a little nudge to find some company and got lucky. Simple. "I'm new to town" (with confidence) will take you a long way. Last, a tip of 10-20 K COP is 2-6 bucks, if she gave you a solid effort, is a nice touch. Skip lunch back home 1 time and let her know you appreciated her effort. You will be remembered. If questioned, you 'heard it at the bar' and give an I-don't-care / know-what-the-fuck-you-are-talking-about stare to the person asking the question of you.

[BeersTerry]

This shit is almost as good as watching Narco on TV.

Some of you need to look at a map to see where countries are. Should that be too hard, Ukraine is properly situated in western Europe.

[Mr Enternational]

Well I guess if all one cares about is a woman's looks, then you are 100% right, a recommendation is stupid. However I, and I suspect most here are interested in performance as well, or perhaps even more importantly than looks. So we appreciate recommendations when we can get them.But a woman is not a machine. Even still different people can work the same machines differently. Jeff Gordon has a way with car #24, but if I got behind the wheel in the mf you may think something was wrong with the car. Hence, Your Mileage May Vary. You can not expect to have the same experience with a chick that another guy had with her.

Case in point: I went upstairs with a chick in Conejitas. This chick blew my socks off. She threw me on the bed and started sucking my dick. She jumped on top of me and started riding the shit out of my dick until she started squirting all over me like a madman. Afterwards, I told my wingman about it. On the same trip or either his next trip he said he took the girl and there were no fireworks. Just everything basic and normal. So the girl who was my top performer of the trip did absolutely shit for him.

[Mr Adventure]

If you pull out a picture, you have OUTTED someone who is trying to help the community (meaning YOU!) and, the girl who needs to build a book of regular, sane, horny gringo clients on basically, the down-low. Do what you can to nurture a Professional Working Relationship with these women, meaning, Don't serve up a made-to-Order reason for her or the Mamasan to go ape-shit bat-fuck crazy on you for not understanding their culture (or the helpful monger trying to level the playing field for the Newbie like you). Prostitution is legal in Colombia but she probably doesn't want her family or neighbors knowing she isn't going to an office job. If you like them 18-20 and thin ("joven a diezy seis a viente, and flaca" say so if you think it might help, but don't flash a mug shot or a nudie. Read the Forums. You have HOURS of homework to be informed. And it can be fun reading. But photos are a No Go. Discussions of other clients, unless he gave you her # and gave you an intro / called her, is not well received in our world or their culture. Being 'presented' or vouched for is HUGE in the latin world. It is how things are done. Try to respect that with fellow mongers intel when speaking with the ladies. In short, treat the information you get here as if you are being given the exam questions and ANSWERS for THE FINAL EXAM without the teacher's knowledge. Get it? You are treated as an above average student / client, and it keeps you from giving papaya. Dar Papaya. DON'T spoil it for the next guy and remember these gals have rent to pay in a world where the avg person makes $1-1. 50 USD a an hour. You are giving them more than a days pay at COP 35-60 K for a half hour to an hour of their time IN PRIVATE. Even of they are looking to build a book of clients, remember they want their private lives to stay PRIVATE..Thanks for the advice on your 1st post, that was intense, but I'm only a newbie to MDE, got my 2nd passport last year. I think I agree with 99% of what you said.

Since this gentleman was so thorough with his response I'll give you guys some background. I actually did this (no photos) in CR where you read the reports about which girl at which MP, blah, bah. Went is each one with a list of names in each MP and listened in the lineup for her name. If that didn't work I just asked the owner, never had any problem. But what I learned is that it doesn't work for me because someone 1) she may not even work there any more, or be out that day 2) another guy's else's taste in women can very be different than mine. Of all the girls I researched I actually only sessioned w / one who was great, just not exactly my type. From then own I just walk in the door, see what's available, pick one or move on to the next place. If someone recommends a girl I'll keep it in the back of my mind but as others have mentioned it doesn't make a lot of sense to go looking for a specific girl.

And for any of you guys out there who have posted unauthorized pics of casa girls, you don't have to worry about me showing any pics, not even Jonesie. Seriously, I don't want to be on either end of that equation.

[Member #4393]

If someone recommends a girl who works at a particular casa. I then print copied photos, go to the mamasan and ask if this girl is available, because I heard good things about her. Did I just commit a faux pax the equivalent of slapping the baby Jesus?
the "real villain" is the guy who posted the pics, that were supposed to be for him only, which he agreed not to put on the internet but did. Now that he's been caught lying he tries to turn it around and shift the blame some newby who is simply trying to locate a particular girl?
Theoretically, if I was friends w / girl and knew for certain that she wanted to remain anonymous and saw that some selfish MF'er posted then yes, I would tell her.
Guys like you and Cubadave are peas in a pod, you've both posted pics w / o permission, for the purpose of profit, as well as stroking huge egos. IMO, you should be sitting alongside him in CR.
I know that according to the "Jonesie bro code", that would make me a "rat", a term you seem to use a lot. But the only people who really use that term are snake-in-the grass types whose misdeeds have been exposed by the truthWith all due respect Mr. Adventure, I have evaluated the statements above, recognize that you think a certain member here should be in Jail for posting 'unathorized' pics, and weighed them against your most recent statement:


And for any of you guys out there who have posted unauthorized pics of casa girls, you don't have to worry about me showing any pics, not even Jonesie. Seriously, I don't want to be on either end of that equation.And I am afraid that your own words belie the truth of your last statement and I now understand you do not understand how this community works. These girls are in the lucrative business of lying, and yes so are mongers, some to a greater extent than others. If you have deluded yourself to the point where you think you are in some fraternity of honest souls and your mission in life is to whisper honestly and sweetly into the ears of South american chicas-for-pay to the detriment of your fellow forum members, You are sadly mistaken. The irony is many of the chicas you would save from the horrors of having their picture taken would first tell you they loved you, then take every penny out of your bank account and then leave you crying and laugh when you jumped off a buiding in despair. You. Just. Don't. Get. It.

I am thinking of starting a petition to rename the forum from "internationsexguide" to "Home of Captain Save-a-ho". Anyone with me?

[Member #4393]

But a woman is not a machine. Even still different people can work the same machines differently. Jeff Gordon has a way with car #24, but if I got behind the wheel in the mf you may think something was wrong with the car. Hence, Your Mileage May Vary. You can not expect to have the same experience with a chick that another guy had with her.

Case in point: I went upstairs with a chick in Conejitas. This chick blew my socks off. She threw me on the bed and started sucking my dick. She jumped on top of me and started riding the shit out of my dick until she started squirting all over me like a madman. Afterwards, I told my wingman about it. On the same trip or either his next trip he said he took the girl and there were no fireworks. Just everything basic and normal. So the girl who was my top performer of the trip did absolutely shit for him.This is true Mr. E. However a review can be helpful in the sense that if certain girls continue to give bad service, or are nicking things out of guys rooms, or come over and whine and moan about money issues, the review can be helpful as a red flag.

Also, we all have our types, and some guy posting a glowing review without a photo can be misleading. For instance, if I read a glowing series of reviews and got a number and called a girl, and a chubby girl showed up, I would have just wasted large amounts of effort for nothing.

This being said, while reviews are helpful for some guys, especially the new guys, I am in your camp. Seldom if ever would I go on a review. I like to show up and find my own way. The irony is that the guys that the reviews help the most seem to be the ones out to save the girls from the 'injustice' of the reviews. Case in point the most recent fiasco ITT. The guy admits he has printed reviews and showed up at casas, but says he would snitch on guys if he knows the pictures are unauthorized. So he wants to eat the pie, then get a refund because it wasn't baked to his specifications.

[Colombia Jake]

Right on, also I don't want to drop 200 bucks on dinner for two. There are also some sleeper restaurants, like the Peruvian ceviche place in Provenza. Maybe someone could post a pic of the food without a crazed newbie running into the place with a copy of the post in his hand? Not likely.Why do you need to drop $200 bucks? You be the man and tell her we can share (compartir) a (fuerte) Main course or tell her wherever you go solamente drinks! These girls are used to the man taking control unless your with the well known Americanized straight up working girl types! Their more impressed by you taking control than you letting them take control, and there here for our pleasure not the other way around!

Colombia Jake.

[Charm City Dave]

But a woman is not a machine. Even still different people can work the same machines differently. Jeff Gordon has a way with car #24, but if I got behind the wheel in the mf you may think something was wrong with the car. Hence, Your Mileage May Vary. You can not expect to have the same experience with a chick that another guy had with her.

Case in point: I went upstairs with a chick in Conejitas. This chick blew my socks off. She threw me on the bed and started sucking my dick. She jumped on top of me and started riding the shit out of my dick until she started squirting all over me like a madman. Afterwards, I told my wingman about it. On the same trip or either his next trip he said he took the girl and there were no fireworks. Just everything basic and normal. So the girl who was my top performer of the trip did absolutely shit for him.The fact one guy has an amazing session with one girl in no way guarantees his friend will as well, agreed. But I would still say there is a correlation in those experiences. Some girls are good business women and want to leave every customer satisfied. Some girls hate their jobs and are incapable of providing a good experience. For some girls a BBBJ is off the menu. Others it may be standard. Some kiss, some don't. Many in the middle, chemistry often counts but still find recommendations are very useful. Oh yea I've been doing this since my first trip to the DR in 1996. I've done this in Thailand, Brazil, CR, DR and many places not well known for the hobby (I've been to 25 counties). At last estimate I've done over 2k girls. I've had some experience with this. Planing my first trip to MDE in early January and appreciate all the info shared here.

[Old Parr]

(I've been to 25 counties). At last estimate I've done over 2k girls.I do not think I have met a more amazing person than you! You are Gods gift that is for sure. BIG CONGRATULATIONS to you on your 2000 girls! Do your friends call you Superman?

You are also the first person I have ever heard of who keeps track a record of the girls they laid. You really should be commended for your record keeping skills!

[Member #4393]

Yes. You can get Viagra or Sidenafil, both over the counter. Generic tends to be cheaper as always. I forget the cost but I want to say around 10 or 20,000 COP per 100 MG. I have purchased from the pharmacy at any Carulla.This is a typical generic sidebfil 4 x 50 pack you can get in Medellin, I think this one was 6000 pesos. That's about 2 bucks us and they work fine. You can pay more but you don't have to.

[John Gault]

It's because of these misfits who can't cut it in their own country, ie Cubadave and Jonesie, who try to make a living promoting themselves while exploiting others that I will be leaving my camera at home. Don't know if he got beat up or not but sure seems like someone who deserves it.Looks like Costa Rica could save some money on your say so, and just throw the book at Cuba Dave without a hearing. It appears to me that he is being railroaded by the PC police. I have read his reports, and watched his videos for many years. This guy has been nothing but helpful to the mongering tribe. Right now he is in need of donations to pay his legal bills. Your post is not helpful. Now if you have info to prove your claim then let us know as I would not send money to a fraud.

[Mr Adventure]

Looks like Costa Rica could save some money on your say so, and just throw the book at Cuba Dave without a hearing. It appears to me that he is being railroaded by the PC police. I have read his reports, and watched his videos for many years. This guy has been nothing but helpful to the mongering tribe. Right now he is in need of donations to pay his legal bills. Your post is not helpful. Now if you have info to prove your claim then let us know as I would not send money to a fraud.John I respect you opinion even if I disagree with it and while I agree his report and vids seemed helpful, but that is only part of the story about CD. You seem uninformed however you requested info so here it is. Go look on the Sosua section of this forum, the Cubsdave philosophy section, then go read the CR forum. You will see posts from guys who have known him for years, unlike yourself and I who have only read reports and watched videos. The over overwhelming majority of posters have no sympathy for him, many would like to see him get 4 yrs, which is effectively a death sentence. I was surprised to learn he was so disliked, but after reading hundeds of post on the subject, I agree with them, he has brought far more harm to the community than he has done good.

You may think of it as a PC police railroading, but the girls who lives he helped destroy, don't and some of them (ex-novia) have brothers who are police officials and to the, what he did was messing with famila. He also screwed over some of his monger brothers by "ratting" and was banned from several establishments in the past. You need to see the whole picture John. Do your homework, and if after you read the afore mentioned forums you're still convinced he a good guy send him some more money.

[Member #4393]

Looks like Costa Rica could save some money on your say so, and just throw the book at Cuba Dave without a hearing. It appears to me that he is being railroaded by the PC police. I have read his reports, and watched his videos for many years. This guy has been nothing but helpful to the mongering tribe. Right now he is in need of donations to pay his legal bills. Your post is not helpful. Now if you have info to prove your claim then let us know as I would not send money to a fraud.As I see it, Cuba Dave is a nice guy being railroaded. To insinuate not only that he belongs in friggen prison but that another forum member here does also is unbelievable. Dude you have fallen in with the wrong crowd. I would politely suggest to you that you join a gardening forum. This isn't a proper fit for you.

[Mr Adventure]

This is exactly why I would never post a pic, ever. If you are copying pics off of the net and handing them to a mamas an or girl, you have just do e what Old Parr complains about and pretty much what just happened in this thread. Does no one else see this? Don't you understand this can set off a chain of events that endangers the person who posted?Yes, I absolutely understand. Do YOU understand that the guy who leaked the pics endangers the girl? The POS who leaked the pics is the real rat, at least that's the way her family will view it. Explain to me why is her welfare and life worth less than a rat?

[Member #4393]

Why do you need to drop $200 bucks? You be the man and tell her we can share (compartir) a (fuerte) Main course or tell her wherever you go solamente drinks! These girls are used to the man taking control unless your with the well known Americanized straight up working girl types! Their more impressed by you taking control than you letting them take control, and there here for our pleasure not the other way around!

Colombia Jake.Jake that was a reference back to his comment about guys who complain about the Medellin food and prefer high dollar venues in say New York. I wasn't talking about taking girls out to eat in Medellin. LOL I will pay for two girls any night in Medellin without batting an eye. Peace.

[Old Parr]

Jake that was a reference back to his comment about guys who complain about the Medellin food and prefer high dollar venues in say New York. I wasn't talking about taking girls out to eat in Medellin. LOL I will pay for two girls any night in Medellin without batting an eye. Peace.I have come to really like your attitude, and the forum needs more posters like you. You remind me of days gone by when my friend MiamiHeatLuver was posting. I wonder whatever happened to him, as he just dropped off the face of the earth. I tried contacting him through email on a couple of occasions to find out if he was alright and nothing. Hope nothing bad happened to him, as MHL was the chit, and a major asset to the Colombia forum, along with another friend who posted under the handle Reefski, who also took a permanent leave of absence.

Oh how I miss the days that have passed us by here on the forum.

[Mr Adventure]

With all due respect Mr. Adventure, I have evaluated the statements above, recognize that you think a certain member here should be in Jail for posting 'unathorized' pics, and weighed them against your most recent statement:

And I am afraid that your own words belie the truth of your last statement and I now understand you do not understand how this community works. These girls are in the lucrative business of lying, and yes so are mongers, some to a greater extent than others. If you have deluded yourself to the point where you think you are in some fraternity of honest souls and your mission in life is to whisper honestly and sweetly into the ears of South american chicas-for-pay to the detriment of your fellow forum members, You are sadly mistaken. The irony is many of the chicas you would save from the horrors of having their picture taken would first tell you they loved you, then take every penny out of your bank account and then leave you crying and laugh when you jumped off a buiding in despair. You. Just. Don't. Get. It.

I am thinking of starting a petition to rename the forum from "internationsexguide" to "Home of Captain Save-a-ho". Anyone with me?Stop putting words in my mouth. Your reaching. I learned my lesson about developing feeling for a girl 2 yrs ago, never again, save that sermon for someone who actually needs it, but thanks anyway.

Your evaluation skills suck. I can show you proof that I was in South America mongering over 10 yrs ago. Regarding the mongering community in general, I'm well aware that at least 1/2 of the guys fall into the either the "wanted or unwanted" category and that the gringos will rip you off quicker than the locals. Most mongers I would not want as neighbors.

I'll admit the idea of showing pics was a new one to me, cause nobody ever posted any of an MP girl on the CR forum, only indies with their permission. Everything else that some here including your self have tried to lecture me on I learned long ago. It isn't that I am uninformed and don't get it.

I do get it, I just don't agree with you and some others on one issue, there's really nothing more to it than that.

Your problem is that you just can't handle it when someone disagrees with you.

[Mr Adventure]

As I see it, Cuba Dave is a nice guy being railroaded. To insinuate not only that he belongs in friggen prison but that another forum member here does also is unbelievable. Dude you have fallen in with the wrong crowd. I would politely suggest to you that you join a gardening forum. This isn't a proper fit for you.See post #182244, you really need to do your homework and get the whole story on CD before shooting your mouth off. Because you are "special" student, I'll give you a cheat sheet. You don't even have to register, just go to the general section, right now there are about 40 pages about him. In particular see the comments of BangBang57, a guy who knows him very well and is sort of the "king" of that forum.

Once you enlighten yourself with the opinions those who know him far better than you or I, you will be in a better position to make an intelligent choice!

Gardening isn't exactly my thing, although at age 18 I planted several hundred bodies, I rekon they fit good enough.

[Mr Adventure]

But a woman is not a machine. Even still different people can work the same machines differently. Jeff Gordon has a way with car #24, but if I got behind the wheel in the mf you may think something was wrong with the car. Hence, Your Mileage May Vary. You can not expect to have the same experience with a chick that another guy had with her.

Case in point: I went upstairs with a chick in Conejitas. This chick blew my socks off. She threw me on the bed and started sucking my dick. She jumped on top of me and started riding the shit out of my dick until she started squirting all over me like a madman. Afterwards, I told my wingman about it. On the same trip or either his next trip he said he took the girl and there were no fireworks. Just everything basic and normal. So the girl who was my top performer of the trip did absolutely shit for him.Thinking back of all the different girls in CR that guys introduced me to, only 1/7 did I repeat. On paper one chica whom it seemed like would be the perfect match, was one of the worst, just negative chemistry I guess. After I told the guy who set me up about it all we could both do was just shrug our shoulders.

I got to pick my own, half the time when I walk in I don't have a clue as to what I want. Seems it's better to get a good surprise that have a certain something in mind and be disappointed.

[SlamCity7777]

The fact one guy has an amazing session with one girl in no way guarantees his friend will as well, agreed. But I would still say there is a correlation in those experiences. Some girls are good business women and want to leave every customer satisfied. Some girls hate their jobs and are incapable of providing a good experience. For some girls a BBBJ is off the menu. Others it may be standard. Some kiss, some don't. Many in the middle, chemistry often counts but still find recommendations are very useful. Oh yea I've been doing this since my first trip to the DR in 1996. I've done this in Thailand, Brazil, CR, DR and many places not well known for the hobby (I've been to 25 counties). At last estimate I've done over 2k girls. I've had some experience with this. Planing my first trip to MDE in early January and appreciate all the info shared here.Whoa! Whoa whoa!! Easy there buckaroo!! 2000 girls. Working girls DO NOT, 1000% do not count your your career stats!! LOL!! Working girls are like hitting home runs in batting practice before the game or swapping 3 pters during shoot around between havles in basked ball!

Normal girls / you didn't pay only on the tally.

[Mr Adventure]

To begin with I'm what you might call a permanent "Yellow belt" in mongering. To me going on a trip for just the girls is kind of weird, it's only the icing on the cake. Centro casas, Jake if I want GFE, 1 per day-that's it. I've done the 3 per day thing, didn't take long for it to seem like work instead of fun.

This was a recon trip, at one time I seriously though of retiring on Isla Margarita, one of the top 3 windsurfing spots on the planet. Don't think it was legal at the time but when the guy at hotel asked if you want a girl, I said yes. "Arianna" from Caracas, gringo pricing naturally-$70. Compared to what I've had since she's an amazon, over 6 ft tall, but beggars can't be choosers, and she was less than half my age. Basically I learned that with her if I you pay for an HR, by God you get a HR. Neither one of us spoke more than five words of the others language.

The normal stuff BBJ, covered FS, then after popping she just started sucking again till it was ready for round two. This went non-stop until her phone rang which was her handler / driver. Saw her twice before some married gringa complained and got the night clerk fired (gringa was on vacation alone and cock blocked me-she wanted to take her place.) The second time her I gave her $80, $10 for a tip. She was getting all upset because she didn't have change. Finally she understood it was a tip, I think.

Turning channels by hand on an old tv to drown out our sounds I came upon a channel that had some kind of mariachi looking band playing music. She got all excited, apparently she liked them and begin to swoon. I don't think she kissed the first time but it's like that band mesmerized her. We didn't fuck we made love until her driver called and she lit into him and gave me 10 more min. It was my first GFE, and I didn't even hear that term till years later. Never forget that sick kind of feeling in my stomach on the flight home. That was in 2005.

Chavez's had people tracking and watching guys like me, I went around taking pics and had a legal pad of questions, people in general did not want to have their pic taken. I do remember a helicopter with. 50 cal going up and down the beach, gunner looked like he was 14. The people had been told and believed that the US was going to invade them and take the oil.

No doubt they had researched me. At the time I lived at the time directly across the street from the FLETC, the Federal Law Enforcement Training center for all fed cops except CIA, FBI. Add to that Vietnam era vet with a secret security clearance, and still employed with the gov at that time, they thought they had a spy. Got interrogated 3 times, the first Miss Universe wanted to know where all I went, ate, how much I drank, spent. She was supposed to be have to do with tourism.

The new two weren't so pretty or nice. They took my luggage apart and had me scared shitless, but all I had was legit vacation stuff. They acted like it was for drugs but I don't fit the profile.

HEY MOD.

I can't for the life of me get any more pics to upload, this was before digital cameras were affordable. They are regular photos that I took a pic of with my digital underwater camera but they just won't upload. Is there an address that I can email them to so that you can post them?

[SBeach25]

Let's play the other side of why post a picture. I remember reading a few months back on the Tijuana thread. A fellow hobbiest was set up by a chica whom he was dating a few times and agreed to a session when he would cross back to the border. She sets him up. Two guys jump him, beat the sh*t out of him and while he is getting beat up, she is going through his pants for his money and phone. He was in the emergency room for a while. Now, one of us members got curious and found out who this girl is. He posts her pics and many fellow mongers are greatful and now avoid this chick. He didn't get permission to post her pictures. So, would this person now be considered a rat? A low life with no respect for the girl. Keep in mind the guy had to spend the night in the hospital and still recovering. Please really? You know guys, really, let's move on. Yes, we may not agree and I know some one come back and say "that's different!" The fact is both posted pictures without consent on the girl. Both sides is IT factored into helping this community. Come on guys. Move on!! It's about providing good information to help us and fellow others to be able to interact in different places. Move the F on guys!

[AznJ518]

Does anyone know a good massage place in Medellin and a dream is a bonus.

[Member #4393]

See post #182244, you really need to do your homework and get the whole story on CD before shooting your mouth off. Because you are "special" student, I'll give you a cheat sheet. You don't even have to register, just go to the general section, right now there are about 40 pages about him. In particular see the comments of BangBang57, a guy who knows him very well and is sort of the "king" of that forum.

Once you enlighten yourself with the opinions those who know him far better than you or I, you will be in a better position to make an intelligent choice!.Why do you assume I don't know him or haven't read those two-faced posts? It is common for low life's to kick a man when he is down so those posts didn't surprise me. Neither does your admission you don't know him yet you are ready to convict him To prison along with another forum member.

Listen, I understand when I told you I was done talking you felt you could seize the day and rapid-posted comment after comment, but everyone gets it and it is doubtful anyone will trust you here. Any more posts from you about me or to me and I am putting you on ignore. I am done, move on with your next newbie topic. How about 'should I slam the door of a Mde taxi driver? Try that one.

[Mr Adventure]

I'm done talking with you at all. Ask someone else.Then don't ask me a question, if you don't want me to answer it.

If I may suggest that the next time you decide to lecture and insult somebody, who you know Jack about, that you don't chose an indefensible position to begin with. Realize there are others here who agree with your position on that issue, perhaps even a majority, but you were the only one stupid enough to attempt to defend it.

So I'll end this little dance with you with a phrase I've used countless times "Your honor, I have no further use for this witness. "

[The Tall Man]

I was not able to sleep on my overnight flight so yesterday (Thursday Nov 6) cash run was all on pure carnal adrenalin after a 2. 5 year hiatus from Medellin.

My first observations is the new buildings and construction throughout. With this is increased traffic jams (my Paisa friends call it tacos). The weather is cloudy and spotted rains.

Took the metro over to Linda's Chicas (on 58) and although it was about 4 in the afternoon the metal gates were pad locked which I assume means closed so headed over to the stadium and to Energy.

It's been 3 years since my visit to Energy and noticed, once in the rooms Arribas, how nice the rooms have been updated and remodeled. The lobby and desk areas are the same.

Very welcoming lady and felt right at home, ask and told that they have 10 girls. Got the line up and must say how naturally pretty all ten were. We all know the difficulties in the selection but I made my choice mainly based on the brief introduction and I was spot on. Great girl with an even better personality and carisma to die for. Passionately kissing and embracing with youthful playfulness for the hour. She was very pretty, not a stunner but rate her in my top 5 lovers in the past 5 years. There is a huge difference between having sex and making love and this experience was the later. Got her number and will take her out next week.

Grabbed the packed metro back and have fully enjoyed my first day.

The Tall Man.

[Mr Adventure]

Let's play the other side of why post a picture. I remember reading a few months back on the Tijuana thread. A fellow hobbiest was set up by a chica whom he was dating a few times and agreed to a session when he would cross back to the border. She sets him up. Two guys jump him, beat the sh*t out of him and while he is getting beat up, she is going through his pants for his money and phone. He was in the emergency room for a while. Now, one of us members got curious and found out who this girl is. He posts her pics and many fellow mongers are greatful and now avoid this chick. He didn't get permission to post her pictures. So, would this person now be considered a rat? A low life with no respect for the girl. Keep in mind the guy had to spend the night in the hospital and still recovering. Please really? You know guys, really, let's move on. Yes, we may not agree and I know some one come back and say "that's different!" The fact is both posted pictures without consent on the girl. Both sides is IT factored into helping this community. Come on guys. Move on!! It's about providing good information to help us and fellow others to be able to interact in different places. Move the F on guys!Not at all, in this case the guy wasn't a rat, he was a victim. In his case posting pics was a sort of public service announcement, after a violent crime had occurred. Guess we'll just agree to disagree on the other unauthorized posting of pics though, like gentlemen.

Once when representing the state in a 14 million dollar claim which I thought it was a slam dunk, the mediator was as India Indian fellow who in that high pitched voice said "Remember, gentleman that even the thinnest of pancakes has two sides. ".

Ruling was we split the cost, it was a rare exception where the "unforeseen conditions" clause should be put aside. The other party had acted in good faith and in a professional manner from day 1, plus he was a prince of a nice guy, it was fair.

[Member #4393]

Well I just learned there is another side to ratting out forum members and saying they belong in jail. I learn something new everyday.

[Member #4393]

Does anyone know a good massage place in Medellin and a dream is a bonus.http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g297478-d4889083-r180504607-AKZARA_Thematic_Spa-Medellin_Antioquia_Department.html

Right near Park lleras but no happy ending.

[Mr Adventure]

Why do you assume I don't know him or haven't read those two-faced posts? It is common for low life's to kick a man when he is down so those posts didn't surprise me. Neither does your admission you don't know him yet you are ready to convict him To prison along with another forum member.

Listen, I understand when I told you I was done talking you felt you could seize the day and rapid-posted comment after comment, but everyone gets it and it is doubtful anyone will trust you here. Any more posts from you about me or to me and I am putting you on ignore. I am done, move on with your next newbie topic. How about 'should I slam the door of a Mde taxi driver? Try that one.STFU already and just put me on ignore then, you started this shit with your attack and insults directed at me.

[Ricker]

I have come to really like your attitude, and the forum needs more posters like you. You remind me of days gone by when my friend MiamiHeatLuver was posting. I wonder whatever happened to him, as he just dropped off the face of the earth. I tried contacting him through email on a couple of occasions to find out if he was alright and nothing. Hope nothing bad happened to him, as MHL was the chit, and a major asset to the Colombia forum, along with another friend who posted under the handle Reefski, who also took a permanent leave of absence.

Oh how I miss the days that have passed us by here on the forum.Blast from the past, MiamiHeat and Reefski! LOL.

Last I heard from MiamiHeat, he was engaged to be married, to a Caleña, I believe. Hope all is well.

Reefski was banned from ISG for something or other, I can't remember, though I bumped into him not to long ago in Colombia.
He was doing great.

The drama and bravado of the Colombia boards, especially Medellin, forever continues, LOL.

I've moved on, especially since a guy here squealed my ISG handle to my girlfriend, cause he wanted her and wanted to prove my 'bad ways' LOL.

Have fun guys, enjoy the ride, ignore the BS. 😋

[MedellinGringo]

I was not able to sleep on my overnight flight so yesterday (Thursday Nov 6) cash run was all on pure carnal adrenalin after a 2. 5 year hiatus from Medellin.

My first observations is the new buildings and construction throughout. With this is increased traffic jams (my Paisa friends call it tacos).My Paisa friends call traffic jams trancónes.

From tacos to trancónes. Medellin is a blast.

[Member #4393]

Blast from the past, MiamiHeat and Reefski! LOL.

Last I heard from MiamiHeat, he was engaged to be married, to a Calea, I believe. Hope all is well.

Reefski was banned from ISG for something or other, I can't remember, though I bumped into him not to long ago in Colombia.
He was doing great.

The drama and bravado of the Colombia boards, especially Medellin, forever continues, LOL.

I've moved on, especially since a guy here squealed my ISG handle to my girlfriend, cause he wanted her and wanted to prove my 'bad ways' LOL.

Have fun guys, enjoy the ride, ignore the BS. Hey Ricker,

Long time no talk. I just PM'd you. We know each other IRL and go back to the old days of this forum. Yes, just look down, we still have newbie rats trying to level the playing field by being betraying the older members and trying to be Mr. Save-a-ho. It is unbelievable really.

[John Gault]

Blast from the past, MiamiHeat and Reefski! LOL.

Last I heard from MiamiHeat, he was engaged to be married, to a Calea, I believe. Hope all is well.

Reefski was banned from ISG for something or other, I can't remember, though I bumped into him not to long ago in Colombia.
He was doing great.

The drama and bravado of the Colombia boards, especially Medellin, forever continues, LOL.

I've moved on, especially since a guy here squealed my ISG handle to my girlfriend, cause he wanted her and wanted to prove my 'bad ways' LOL.

Have fun guys, enjoy the ride, ignore the BS. Yes those were were great posters, but lets not forget the legendary Urbanwildlife.

[Member #4393]

Yes those were were great posters, but lets not forget the legendary Urbanwildlife.LOL man I sure miss that guy.

[Member #4393]

I been making contacts with some facebook girl and getting quotes from 150 k to 200 k plus taxi to meet up in.

An apt. Was hoping pricing would be a little less, wonder now how much all night, tln would be?

I will be staying El Poblado area, how far is that from Mayorista. I guess street girls would be lowest prices.

Any street action in Parque lleras??

Hoping to see this girl, see attachment.I know this is a month old or so, but since you are going to be in Medellin in a week, here are some answers that I hope helps you:

Mayorista at night is about 15 minutes by cab. Detailed directions can be found here how to get there or you can say to the cab driver " Mayorista, donde LOS bares con putas". Tell them this before you get in, they will usually know what you mean. If not, don't get in. Or, print detailed direction off this site and give them to him.

Ask yourself why you want to go to the Mayorista. I find it to be a waste of time. It is a low budget venue, and as such if you want low budget, the casas downtown are a better choice in my opinion. If yo want to sit outside, at night in a streetwalking area and have a beer, it can be fun, but I have never taken a girl there, ever. Myself, I am not happy with bottom tier girls. YMMV.

Park Lleras has seen an influx of street girls, they are in the interior of the park after dark, or around the edge sitting and smiling at you. But again this isn't quality. By the pic you posted, maybe you are conflicted, because girls like that aren't hanging in the Mayorista or street walking in lleras. Also the street girls in Park LLeras are trying to get the prepago rates 150/300 and imo are not worth it. Better to go to the Mansion or to Jake. The mansion has great rooms and girls, Jake has great girls.

To get good girls in Medellin you will pay 150 per for short time plus taxi, or a little more. That is just the breaks bro. On the bright side that isn't much for how good these girls can be. Have fun and be safe. Were are you staying in Poblado?

As far as your dream girl in the photo, here she is, message her and tell her you are interested in getting to know her. If she is working she will text you back. If not, she won't.

www.facebook.com/search/str/Juliana%2BElejalde/keywords_users

[Dollar Bill]

Does anyone know a good massage place in Medellin and a dream is a bonus.Go to Abydos. $150 K for an hour and you will get everything you want. I liked Sofia but you should see the line up in case your tastes are different.

Before asking me for the address, please RTFF as that info has been posted.

Good luck,

$Bill.

[Mr Adventure]

Hey Ricker,

Long time no talk. I just PM'd you. We know each other IRL and go back to the old days of this forum. Yes, just look down, we still have newbie rats trying to level the playing field by being betraying the older members and trying to be Mr. Save-a-ho. It is unbelievable really.At first I thought, turn the cheek, this individual's issues with reality / facts is incurable. Funny really, we've all seen the movie before. Dude picked a fight he couldn't win, then when he realized he couldn't use logic, did the only thing he could, which was to attack and try to discredit.

Even went so far as to try to"run me off this board" for which he got his hand slapped by the mod, post#18228, " it appeared to be a public effort to discourage members from posting information".

Good job mod, it is exactly because of guys with the attitude of this guy, that many members never or rarely post, or just leave the forums entirely. I would not be on this forum if it did not offer an equal voice to all members. All other members who disagreed with me did so in a courteous and respectful manner.

So, guy says he' done talking to me and puts me on ignore (thank God). I guess his new strategy is to hide behind the ignore function and implicitly jab at me, where he is safe from return fire.

Not my first time being the new kid on the block and having to simultaneously fight several individuals trying to "drive me out". Unfortunately on many of these boards that's exactly the reception a new member receives, some people want to maintain the status quo and silence any opinion other than their own, even to the detriment of the board they "think" they are defending. I really don't understand why this guy said that I am not a proper fit here, haven't I proven that when needed, I can be just as big of an asshole as anyone here?

On second though, at this point, turning the cheek is exactly the thing to do so I am withholding return fire, implicit or otherwise. As a show of good faith toward this gentleman, despite the fact I began in 2005, not hard to see he probably has 50 x my experience, and tons of info regarding MDE in particular. Probably took me 100 pages RTFF to get the same info from his last post, possibly saved some guy a lot of time.

Instead of focusing on the things we don't like about another person, think we would all be happier to just find one thing we like about them and try to ignore the rest. Have a great day everyone, including TTP and Jonesie.

[Chicafan]

I been making contacts with some facebook girl and getting quotes from 150 k to 200 k plus taxi to meet up in.

An apt. Was hoping pricing would be a little less, wonder now how much all night, tln would be?
Are you kidding me SL? You're hoping decent hearted, good looking girls come and spend a couple of hours (with your for less than $60? What's less than $60 but still in your price range? Merry Christmas to the girls that are fortunate enough to meet you.

[UncleMonger]

Does anyone know a good massage place in Medellin and a dream is a bonus.My favorite spot is energy. Great lineup and showers available after the session.

[Hanshin Baka]

Are you kidding me SL? You're hoping decent hearted, good looking girls come and spend a couple of hours (with your for less than $60? What's less than $60 but still in your price range? Merry Christmas to the girls that are fortunate enough to meet you.Thank you for being the voice of reason.

[Member #4393]

Are you kidding me SL? You're hoping decent hearted, good looking girls come and spend a couple of hours (with your for less than $60? What's less than $60 but still in your price range? Merry Christmas to the girls that are fortunate enough to meet you.I am guessing here, but I think he thought when the chicks wrote him back 150/300, they meant dollars.

[Mr Enternational]

I am guessing here, but I think he thought when the chicks wrote him back 150/300, they meant dollars.No. Because he wrote "150k to 200k plus taxi". Facebook prepagos are not my M.O., but a buddy of mine said that he gives then 120k. I do not know if he gives them money for a taxi or not though.

[Surf Looker]

No. Because he wrote "150k to 200k plus taxi". Facebook prepagos are not my M.O., but a buddy of mine said that he gives then 120k. I do not know if he gives them money for a taxi or not though.Yup prices may very on the guy and what the girl thinks of him. Younger guy, in shape vs older guy out of shape etc.

Anyways we are good. Enough girls and range of prices for everyone in Medellin.

[Member #4402]

I have earlier plugged Jake, because I enjoy the "girlfriend date experience" of going out for drinks and dance with someone who acts like she's my girlfriend. Here are the four dates from my last trip.

Note: I speak decent Spanish. I give them a total of 250-300 mil pesos, which is higher than the suggested 220 or so. You can have plain sex for cheaper, but for me the quality usually is worth it.

The first night I was with "YY", 21 years old, who has been working a regular job for one year after finishing a degree in Economics. "YY" is 5'2", slender, long black hair, cute. We went to Parque Lleras for a quiet Sunday night. She got a non-alcoholic drink and was a bit reserved, but carried on a polite conversation. Little touching. I thought this would be a dud evening. Later she drank some Bacardi and loosened up some. We went for a walk, and I pulled her in for a kiss: she responded. Cab back to Jake's where I put on some music and we danced in my room, and she drank quite a bit more. She really likes techno and selected song after song. Slowly we undressed each other while dancing, then had hard and fast sex. We relaxed some, she picked more music and started dressing, by now quite drunk. As she dressed, I kissed and caressed her body and she did some raegatton in my face. Now SHE got horny again, pulled of her panties and shirt and asked for a second condom! This was a first at Jake's. More sex, almost pornstar. We relaxed, she drank more, and then wanted a third condom! More sex. A little later I gave her DATY followed by a fourth round. After this, she got dressed for real and left. Wow. I usually enjoy the dates for the date portion, but here the sex was absolutely top notch. (Yes, I had used some Viagra, because I had just flown in and was tired.).

The second date was with "DD", who was olive skinned (Black dad, blonde mom, she said), slender, beautiful. "DD" was 23, had an 8-year-old kid, but the stomach was nice and flat. She was more socially skilled in conversation, drank some, but didn't get drunk like why. We had a first drink, moved to a disco (second floor at one of the short ends of Parque Lleras) where we ate, drank some more, and danced some. Good amount of kissing and snuggling. Back at Jake's, we danced. Again, I let her pick the music: better if she girls gets "into her moves". She danced on the bed, I on the floor, then onto average sex. Overall, "the" was very pleasant throughout the evening and a sight for sore eyes.

I took a break for a few days, then I went out with "CC", whom I'd seen on an earlier visit. She is short, a little rounder (including an awesome chest). At 20 she's fine, but could swell to a gordita in a few years. She's half-way through a 3-year degree as an "executive secretary. " "CC" knows how to party: drink and dance and chat. We went to Setenta in Laureles and stayed for four hours at the same place were the music was great, and the crowd friendly. Lots of snuggling and making out and slow dances, me with a constant boner. In the taxi going home she faced me in a girlfriend embrace the whole way back. No seat belts here. We had both drunk a little too much: light headaches. We looked at photos, played music (no dancing), then had good GFE sex which ended late, around 2 pm. Then we both fell asleep! She woke up at dawn, felt awkward for accidentally staying toda la noche, went to the bathroom to shower and vomit to lessen the hangover (she said), then left after a little hugging and kissing. I was hung over into the afternoon.

For the fourth date, I saw "VV": gorgeous, petite, olive skinned, slender, 19. She had a 3-year-old daughter and her tummy was stretched a bit soft, the only "stain" on an otherwise perfect body. "Vv" was very sweet and cuddly. We had a mixed-meat dish at Cielo Divino in Parque Lleras, drank some, but not lots. Then we danced at that same disco. She kept being very sweet, but the mood was not to totally let ourselves go. Back at Jake's we danced some (again), she then pushed me down on the bed, face up, and she slowly strip-danced naked over me. Her hair went down to her butt! What a gorgeous sight with this dark, smiley angel shaking her little body above me. Then sex, and here I got a bit annoyed, because it seemed like she was trying to get me off quick. Perhaps she wanted back to her kid? This was a first with Jake's girls, as they usually take their time. In total, the evening lasted over four hours, so I suppose I got good value overall.

Finally, there was another CC, "CC2", that I had seen on an my first trip and had a giant crush on then. 28, pretty, looks young, cleans for a living, never finished high school, knows how to party and drink, VERY GFE, though borderline drunkard as she insisted on more when I said enough. Anyway, it seemed like one of those rare cases where we really had a connection and she was really into me too. We called and emailed and met on my second trip. Now it was clear that it was pretense on her part (bummer!) and I lost my crush, but still had fun. At the end, she wanted quite a big "gift" for various issues at home. Still, "CC2" said to next time visit her at home (she lives with her parents in Santo Domingo). Afterwards, I found out that several guys have had the same experience: paying for "second floor" family health issues, her dental work, and her suddenly "losing" her cleaning job, only to regain it again. Now on this last trip, I called her up to meet up as friend and me finally getting to see her house. We met, but she didn't want to meet at her house. We ate, talked, then she wanted to get paid for her time! This really devolved from "te extrano mucho mi amor" to "hey I need money. " Still, she's fun for a single evening, but don't get sucked in like me and several other guys -- this is one skilled actress.

[John Gault]

See post #182244, you really need to do your homework and get the whole story on CD before shooting your mouth off. Because you are "special" student, I'll give you a cheat sheet. You don't even have to register, just go to the general section, right now there are about 40 pages about him. In particular see the comments of BangBang57, a guy who knows him very well and is sort of the "king" of that forum.

./ QUOTE].

I have spent quite a little time looking for the post #182244. Would you please give me the exact forum it is on? I also could not find BangBang57. Maybe I don't know how to search for stuff on ISG as I typed on the search tab on the top right of the home page with no luck.

[Mr Adventure]

/ QUOTE]I have spent quite a little time looking for the post #182244. Would you please give me the exact forum it is on? I also could not find BangBang57. Maybe I don't know how to search for stuff on ISG as I typed on the search tab on the top right of the home page with no luck.Can't say directly here, this is on the large gringo forum Costa Rica are the first two words. This is not the ISG forum. The last word is ticas. It is what Jonesie refers to as the "trailer park illuminati" on his forums, he's right.

Don't think Dave ever meant to do any harm, or that he is even a bad guy, but the unintended consequences of his actions did occur. A case in point that I had firsthand experience with: A Delta mechanic is driving home from his graveyard shift, falls asleep, crosses the centerline on a freeway and hits another car traveling in the opposite direction, heard-on. In this other vehicle a mother / daughter are killed. If that wasn't bad enough, try and imagine the reaction of the ER Dr, who was the husband / father of the victims.

The mechanic was a just a hardworking regular guy who never intended to cause any harm, still he took 2 lives and destroyed a family, and must be held accountable for his actions. That's why he is presently doing time for manslaughter.

Not saying Dave is a bad guy, just that he brought a lot of grief to a lot of people, and that one just never knows when the karma bus will be rounding the corner.

[Mr Adventure]

Yup prices may very on the guy and what the girl thinks of him. Younger guy, in shape vs older guy out of shape etc.

Anyways we are good. Enough girls and range of prices for everyone in Medellin.Enjoy it while you can, but what if I am an older guy who is in better shape than 90% of the younger guys? Answer: I get a lot of compliments but still pay they same as other older guys. LOL.

Once a chica who is probably the current most popular performer in CR, "Luna" told me. " The old guys are all nice and generous but nothing to look at and the young guys are nice to look at, but they are ALL assholes. " Not sure what she meant but can't help think it must have had something to do with what different guys paid her. I don't think that deep down inside they really like us at all, they just like the $$ we pay them, and usually treat them better than their countrymen.

Yes, plenty of girls at all price ranges in MDE.

[Surf Looker]

Wow who is the girl in black and long gold earings.


My trip to Medellin has evolved over the years, girls are getting bitchier, things are getting more expensive and Medellin is getting more westernized. Medellin still has about 5 to 7 years of game left before it is lost to the mankind due to westernization and feminism.

Still not the same as a few years back, but still has a lot of game. Getting high quality girls is still difficult. I have tried to grade the quality of the girls, money spend and Chica performance. This is my perspective; everyone has their own perspective of things. I tried to tour all the available avenues and report on this thread.

I arrived in Medellin via Panama, by the time I got to my apartment it as 10:00 PM, too early for Medellin. First I need to get into the party mood, opened the duty free liquor I bought, took a shower and downed a few glasses of liquor. Called up the taxi and asked him to head down to San Diego! IT was Wed night, not many guys but plenty of pussy. Only a few were really good looking, others were just mediocre. I was very horny but was not ready to fuck in San Diego; I need to fuck in my own bed and in the comforts of my own apartment. Using my broken Spanish, I negotiated $120K, for chica and $100K for the house; I also paid $80 for the drinks, $15K for taxi each way from my apartment. Took the chica home and banged her until 4:00 AM. Covered blowjob, no kissing, sex was intense or at least she pretended it was intense, Chica wanted to go home and I called it a day.

Day 1. Sandiego, Looks: 8, performance: 6, $$: high, total damage $330K ($170USD)

Next day I decide to check out the El Centro casas, all the action in El Centro happens during the day. I think they close at 8:00 PM and it is not safe be in El Centro that late. My trusted taxi driver showed up at 11:00 AM, I woke up with severe hangover from all the drinking last night. Well took some pills and got ready for round 2. The taxi fee is about 60K for 3 hours pre negotiated. He took me too many casas, the quality was bad in most houses, in many places I was offered 2 girls for $75K ($40USD) for one hour. I pushed him to take me to more house, we kept going. There was one on Peru Street, no name that I really liked, they had about 20 girls, and some were very good looking. The offer rate is $90K for 2 girls for 30 min. I was told CASA sexy also has similar pricing, and it changes depending on the day, and the driver you know, he can negotiate on your behalf. I picked the two best looking girls, paid $90K at the window, grabbed few bottles of liquor $10K and got into the room. I was ready to fuck the girl, I am sure how safe they were, I just got blowjobs for 30 min, the girls took turns until I came. We had a shower, together, no kissing, covered blow job, they were ready for all positions and all holes, but I was not. I have the girl 10K each as tip.

In the evening we out to Colombian Moda, a fashion show that is an annual event in Medellin. Lots of good looking chicas, photos attached, I tried my best to earn a date but got rejected by all! I am a hard core night club hopper in Chicago and I have no shame in asking a girl for a date. These model looking girls have seen it all and are not going to fall for my tricks. At night I called a girl Angie that I met on dating site http://www.romancelatina.com, she seemed nice, she is 18, nice body, really did not get into the topic of money I. E. She is not a prepaid or a semi pro, just wanted to get to know me at least for now!. We walked in Lleras, eat at good restaurants and drank a lot of michiladas (beer and lime). Dinner for two and few drinks costs about 80K (40USD), not bad just chilled the night.

Day 2: El Centro casas, Looks 8, performance 7, $$: low total damage $180K (90 USD)

Day 3 again I woke up at 11 AM, typical Medellin wake up time. I have some local contacts who can hook me up with chicas, I wanted to try them. They market themselves as supplying college girls, they are not hookers, not had sex with many guys, they are more relaxed, not clock watchers. I called the guy up and asked him to send two girls. I said they can come at 3:00 PM, just chill etc. The pimp charges 25K for each girl. One showed up at 4:00 PM and another one at 5:00 PM, both are decent and have nice bodies, very young, one was 18 her name was Dani and other was 19 by name Mona. They both told me they are on Cupido.com and romancelatina.com; I could have saved $50 if I had hooked up with them online. They seemed relaxed and just wanted to chill, we started drinking and I started to fondle with their breast and ass. After an hour of drinking we decided to hit the bed. I love blowjobs, so at my request they spayed whipped cream on my dick and started to suck, they took turns, they licked my balls, my tits, arms, legs, any where I asked they licked complete BBBJ. I took turns and banged both, from the back, from the front, Mona had a great ass, and I could not get enough of it. The sex party lasted at least 2 hours until I came. Spectacular sex, kissing, BBBJ, licking, seduction, all holes, my bed, my Apt, my TV! They never negotiated the money, they never looked at the clock, they were just relaxed and did anything I asked them todo!. I gave $150K each and $20 each for the taxi also ordered Pizza and paid $60K for the pizza. At night I called Angie again and asked her to join me for dinner, we walked again in Lleras, lots of kissing and fondling, lots of good food and liquor, just a romantic evening and romantic date!.

Total impact: $300 for the girls, $50 for pimp, $80 taxi, $60 Pizza

Day3: Girls from the pimp Looks 8, Performance 9, $$ high total damage $390K (200 USD)

Day 4 my last day. I asked Angie to show up late evening so we can go to the movies, she showed up at 4 PM, dressed in sexy skirt and a white top. She had a very nice ass and perfect tear drop shaped natural breasts. We started hugging and kissing as soon as she arrived. We drank for few hours and then I took her to my bed, we spent almost an hour just kissing, fondling, and licking each other. She rubbed honey, Condensed milk, chocolate on my dick and my body and licked me top to bottom. We took breaks, ate food, sucked each other, jumped in to the showers many times to clean the mess, and fucked for many hours. One of the best nights I had. We fucked and fucked and fucked until we got exhausted and could not do it anymore! Incredible!

Day 4: Local Date Looks 8, Performance 10, $$ low total damage $40K (20 USD) taxi money and 50, 000 peso I gave her to buy gifts for her mom on her birthday.

Total money spent $2250 USD including $580 in airfare, $300 for the room, and the rest on girls and food.

Note to readers: If you happened to see the girls in the pictures posted on this thread in Medellin, please do not tell them their photos are posted on ISG. I did mask the faces to avoid this issue. This happened to be quite a few times, guys who cannot stop being curious telling chicas, "I saw your photo on ISG! ", they get freaked out!. They will chase me until I contact ISG and have the photo or thread removed. Please maintain a very tight upper lip!

Thanks in advance.

[Member #4351]

Wow who is the girl in black and long gold earings.Talk about Reading the Fucking Forum, that post is from 2010!

[Combo]

Yup prices may very on the guy and what the girl thinks of him. Younger guy, in shape vs older guy out of shape etc.

Anyways we are good. Enough girls and range of prices for everyone in Medellin.And also if she's seen you before. If you haven't met one another previously, she is basically showing up to a "blind date" at your apartment. For all she knows, you might not be there, you might not pay her, or you might be a stinky, crazy, or even violent creep. Many Facebook girls will want some type of premium to compensate them for this risk.

Once you develop a rapport with a chica (if you do), prices can come down quite a bit. Of course, many on here rarely stay in MDE for longer than a week or two at a time. And many also want to bone a bunch of different hot-looking women. So developing a rapport with one specific girl may not be feasible.

[ThingyBob]

Went to new life yesterday and the day before went for 30 mins and 1 hour respectively. Was short changed by about 14-15 minutes each time. The iimbecile in the counter timestamps a time which is earlier than the time at which the clock runs in the rooms. Was annoyed but didn't want to argue since I don't speak Spanish. Plus I used a stop watch. So please watch out. Some hot girls though.

[ThingyBob]

Went to new life yesterday and the day before went for 30 mins and 1 hour respectively. Was short changed by about 14-15 minutes each time. The iimbecile in the counter timestamps a time which is earlier than the time at which the clock runs in the rooms. Was annoyed but didn't want to argue since I don't speak Spanish. Plus I used a stop watch. So please watch out. Some hot girls though.Guys disregard what I said below. Went there again today brilliant service, I think what happened to me yesterday was a one off.

[Quagmire1974]

Hey fellas,

I'm just back from spending 8 full days (and 2 partial days) in Medellin. And because a couple of you helped me when I had a few questions a few weeks ago before my trip, I'm now returning the favor and posting some fresh information for others to use.

Please accept my apologies in advance for the very-detailed nature of this trip report. I know many of you veteran mongers will find the following details very tedious. However, it's my opinion that traveling mongers want to know not only costs, but also the process you go through when you visit casas or strip clubs in Medellin. When you're armed with accurate information, you're less likely to be taken advantage of because you won't be walking into an establishment looking and acting like a deer in the headlights, LOL. So, here we go:

1) Fase II (Fase Dos): 7,000 to 10,000 COP taxi charge from Poblado. The entry fee is 20,000 COP. After you pay the security guard at the door, you will be quickly patted down / frisked. Beer is 17,000 COP and liquor is available (and costs more, of course). Do not try to sit next to the stage while drinking beer; you will be asked to move to the bar and told that sitting next to the stage is a privilege you earn when you buy a bottle of liquor. Girls occasionally dance on stage and will then circle the room asking for tips. You can politely decline or pay a small tip; 2,000 COP is common. Select your girl and pay the cashier at the bar 180,000 COP for 45 minutes. Exit the club and go next door (towards the right) with your girl to a large building with cabanas inside. The woman at the desk will charge you 5,000 COP for a condom but you are welcome to bring your own.

2) New Life: There is no sign that says "New Life" on the front of the building. The only noticeable characteristic of the business is a bright blue front door. You will be buzzed through this blue door and then through two metal grate doors as you walk down a short hallway. At the end of the hallway, climb the stairs; a male employee will motion for you to sit in one of several open rooms with other customers. The girls then walk through the rooms, shake your hand, and tell you their names. Bottled drinks are available for purchase as you wait to make your selection (bottled water = 2,000 COP). Tell the male employee the name of the girl that you want; he will get her and then you and her will go off to a room together. Negotiate what you want; 30 minutes = 40,000 COP. Of course, more time = more COP. When finished, pay the cashier for your girl (and the drink) and leave the same way as you came in, being buzzed out as you walk down the stairs and through the same doors you entered.

3) Barra Ejecutiva: 10,000 COP taxi charge from Poblado. There is no entry fee and no pat down / frisking from security at the entrance. Watch out for hustlers standing nearby, especially a guy who loudly claps his hands and speaks English, encouraging people entering Barra Ejecutiva to visit his club immediately next door. Go down a well-lit hallway into the club. Beer (Pilsen) 7,000 COP with Club Colombia (I think) 9,000 COP; liquor is also available. Grab a table and chair and sit wherever you want. Girls frequently dance on stage and then circle the room for tips (just like at Fase Dos). Again, 2,000 COP tip is common. Negotiate directly with the girls. Prices vary wildly; I was quoted 90,000 COP (for 30 minutes) by one girl and 70,000 COP and 80,000 COP (again, for 30 minutes) by two others. Select your girl and pay her; she will take the money to the cashier at the bar and get a condom (but like Fase Dos, you are free to bring your own). A security guard will open a metal door in the men's bathroom and you and your girl will walk through and then climb a tight, spiral metal staircase to the bedrooms upstairs. There are 8 rooms total, and if they are all occupied you may have to wait a few minutes. A male employee named "Lulo" watches the clock, knocks on the doors, and then cleans up a little when a room becomes available. Do the deed and then leave the same way you entered.

4) Sildenafil (Viagra and its generic equivalents) are available for purchase over-the-counter without a prescription. At Pasteur Farmacia, 2 tablets of 50 MG Viagra are 58,700 COP, while 1 tablet of 100 MG Viagra is 25,000 COP. 2 tablets of generic 50 MG Viagra is 5,600 COP or 18,000 COP (depends of the manufacturer), while 1 tablet of 100 MG generic Viagra is 5,900 (manufactured by Genfar and packaged as "Sildenafilo" in a small red and white box). The Viagra is, of course, imported while the generic versions are made by a Colombian manufacturer and another manufacturer. I purchased 20 tablets of the generic Genfar "Sildenafilo" and, to avoid the prying eyes and questions of US Customs, simply removed the tablets from their blister packs and put them in an Ibuprofen bottle. The friendly receptionist at my hotel told me he bought something called "Lobo" at a sex shop in Medellin; he claimed it worked better than Viagra. "Lobo," according to him, is ONLY sold in sex shops and costs 13,000 COP for two tablets.

So there you have it. Questions / comments are welcome from other ISG members. Hopefully this information will help some mongers cut out the middlemen who lurk on this board and advertise the girls that they want you to meet.

One final note: If you like clean facilities, go to Fase Dos. If you want a cheap fuck, go to New Life. And if you want to hang out with the locals and a real "working-man's" club, go to Barra Ejecutiva. Personally, I liked Barra Ejecutiva, even if their rooms upstairs were a little nasty LOL.

[Socker]

Good stuff Quagmire but what about your personal experience, was it good? How did the talent look at the various places you went to? What hotel did you stay at? This info is also helpful to the board. Thanks.


2) New Life: There is no sign that says "New Life" on the front of the building. The only noticeable characteristic of the business is a bright blue front door. You will be buzzed through this blue door and then through two metal grate doors as you walk down a short hallway. At the end of the hallway, climb the stairs; a male employee will motion for you to sit in one of several open rooms with other customers. The girls then walk through the rooms, shake your hand, and tell you their names. Bottled drinks are available for purchase as you wait to make your selection (bottled water = 2,000 COP). Tell the male employee the name of the girl that you want; he will get her and then you and her will go off to a room together. Negotiate what you want; 30 minutes = 40,000 COP. Of course, more time = more COP. When finished, pay the cashier for your girl (and the drink) and leave the same way as you came in, being buzzed out as you walk down the stairs and through the same doors you entered..The blue door of New Life.

The entrance to Barra Ejecutiva on Calle 53.

The ISG asa map. The are many casas worthy of a monger's attention.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ptab=2&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ie=UTF8&mid=zzgTRtD9VTmQ.kn7YEgWmCD9E

[Halcyon901]

Hey fellas,

I'm just back from spending 8 full days (and 2 partial days) in Medellin. And because a couple of you helped me when I had a few questions a few weeks ago before my trip, I'm now returning the favor and posting some fresh information for others to use.

Please accept my apologies in advance for the very-detailed nature of this trip report. I know many of you veteran mongers will find the following details very tedious. However, it's my opinion that traveling mongers want to know not only costs, but also the process you go through when you visit casas or strip clubs in Medellin. When you're armed with accurate information, you're less likely to be taken advantage of because you won't be walking into an establishment looking and acting like a deer in the headlights, LOL. So, here we go:

1) Fase II (Fase Dos): 7,000 to 10,000 COP taxi charge from Poblado. The entry fee is 20,000 COP. After you pay the security guard at the door, you will be quickly patted down / frisked. Beer is 17,000 COP and liquor is available (and costs more, of course). Do not try to sit next to the stage while drinking beer; you will be asked to move to the bar and told that sitting next to the stage is a privilege you earn when you buy a bottle of liquor. Girls occasionally dance on stage and will then circle the room asking for tips. You can politely decline or pay a small tip; 2,000 COP is common. Select your girl and pay the cashier at the bar 180,000 COP for 45 minutes. Exit the club and go next door (towards the right) with your girl to a large building with cabanas inside. The woman at the desk will charge you 5,000 COP for a condom but you are welcome to bring your own.Hey Quagmire, I think I met you at Fase Dos on Halloween. Glad you enjoyed Medellin, and good to hear you made it out to New Life!

[Halcyon901]

Good stuff Quagmire but what about your personal experience, was it good? How did the talent look at the various places you went to? What hotel did you stay at? This info is also helpful to the board. Thanks.

The blue door of New Life.

The entrance to Barra Ejecutiva on Calle 53.

The ISG asa map. The are many casas worthy of a monger's attention.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ptab=2&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ie=UTF8&mid=zzgTRtD9VTmQ.kn7YEgWmCD9EI was at Fase Dos at the same time, Friday (10/30) was much better than Saturday night (10/31), as a lot of the girls took off for Halloween. Lots of silicon in Fase Dos, her are two chicas I took for a spin.

[Halcyon901]

Hey fellas,

I'm just back from spending 8 full days (and 2 partial days) in Medellin. And because a couple of you helped me when I had a few questions a few weeks ago before my trip, I'm now returning the favor and posting some fresh information for others to use.

Please accept my apologies in advance for the very-detailed nature of this trip report. I know many of you veteran mongers will find the following details very tedious. However, it's my opinion that traveling mongers want to know not only costs, but also the process you go through when you visit casas or strip clubs in Medellin. When you're armed with accurate information, you're less likely to be taken advantage of because you won't be walking into an establishment looking and acting like a deer in the headlights, LOL. So, here we go:


2) New Life: There is no sign that says "New Life" on the front of the building. The only noticeable characteristic of the business is a bright blue front door. You will be buzzed through this blue door and then through two metal grate doors as you walk down a short hallway. At the end of the hallway, climb the stairs; a male employee will motion for you to sit in one of several open rooms with other customers. The girls then walk through the rooms, shake your hand, and tell you their names. Bottled drinks are available for purchase as you wait to make your selection (bottled water = 2,000 COP). Tell the male employee the name of the girl that you want; he will get her and then you and her will go off to a room together. Negotiate what you want; 30 minutes = 40,000 COP. Of course, more time = more COP. When finished, pay the cashier for your girl (and the drink) and leave the same way as you came in, being buzzed out as you walk down the stairs and through the same doors you entered.
New Life was great that weekend too, I think I tried out 6 different girls there in 3 days, one session was a threesome with some culo grande putas! Out of the 4 chicas in the pic, only Samantha had a natural ass; BBBJ with all of them, but they ask for a propina.

[Dcfan77]

Straight and to the point! I like it!


Hey fellas,

I'm just back from spending 8 full days (and 2 partial days) in Medellin. And because a couple of you helped me when I had a few questions a few weeks ago before my trip, I'm now returning the favor and posting some fresh information for others to use.

Please accept my apologies in advance for the very-detailed nature of this trip report. I know many of you veteran mongers will find the following details very tedious. However, it's my opinion that traveling mongers want to know not only costs, but also the process you go through when you visit casas or strip clubs in Medellin. When you're armed with accurate information, you're less likely to be taken advantage of because you won't be walking into an establishment looking and acting like a deer in the headlights, LOL. So, here we go:

1) Fase II (Fase Dos): 7,000 to 10,000 COP taxi charge from Poblado. The entry fee is 20,000 COP. After you pay the security guard at the door, you will be quickly patted down / frisked. Beer is 17,000 COP and liquor is available (and costs more, of course). Do not try to sit next to the stage while drinking beer; you will be asked to move to the bar and told that sitting next to the stage is a privilege you earn when you buy a bottle of liquor. Girls occasionally dance on stage and will then circle the room asking for tips. You can politely decline or pay a small tip; 2,000 COP is common. Select your girl and pay the cashier at the bar 180,000 COP for 45 minutes. Exit the club and go next door (towards the right) with your girl to a large building with cabanas inside. The woman at the desk will charge you 5,000 COP for a condom but you are welcome to bring your own.

2) New Life: There is no sign that says "New Life" on the front of the building. The only noticeable characteristic of the business is a bright blue front door. You will be buzzed through this blue door and then through two metal grate doors as you walk down a short hallway. At the end of the hallway, climb the stairs; a male employee will motion for you to sit in one of several open rooms with other customers. The girls then walk through the rooms, shake your hand, and tell you their names. Bottled drinks are available for purchase as you wait to make your selection (bottled water = 2,000 COP). Tell the male employee the name of the girl that you want; he will get her and then you and her will go off to a room together. Negotiate what you want; 30 minutes = 40,000 COP. Of course, more time = more COP. When finished, pay the cashier for your girl (and the drink) and leave the same way as you came in, being buzzed out as you walk down the stairs and through the same doors you entered.

3) Barra Ejecutiva: 10,000 COP taxi charge from Poblado. There is no entry fee and no pat down / frisking from security at the entrance. Watch out for hustlers standing nearby, especially a guy who loudly claps his hands and speaks English, encouraging people entering Barra Ejecutiva to visit his club immediately next door. Go down a well-lit hallway into the club. Beer (Pilsen) 7,000 COP with Club Colombia (I think) 9,000 COP; liquor is also available. Grab a table and chair and sit wherever you want. Girls frequently dance on stage and then circle the room for tips (just like at Fase Dos). Again, 2,000 COP tip is common. Negotiate directly with the girls. Prices vary wildly; I was quoted 90,000 COP (for 30 minutes) by one girl and 70,000 COP and 80,000 COP (again, for 30 minutes) by two others. Select your girl and pay her; she will take the money to the cashier at the bar and get a condom (but like Fase Dos, you are free to bring your own). A security guard will open a metal door in the men's bathroom and you and your girl will walk through and then climb a tight, spiral metal staircase to the bedrooms upstairs. There are 8 rooms total, and if they are all occupied you may have to wait a few minutes. A male employee named "Lulo" watches the clock, knocks on the doors, and then cleans up a little when a room becomes available. Do the deed and then leave the same way you entered.

4) Sildenafil (Viagra and its generic equivalents) are available for purchase over-the-counter without a prescription. At Pasteur Farmacia, 2 tablets of 50 MG Viagra are 58,700 COP, while 1 tablet of 100 MG Viagra is 25,000 COP. 2 tablets of generic 50 MG Viagra is 5,600 COP or 18,000 COP (depends of the manufacturer), while 1 tablet of 100 MG generic Viagra is 5,900 (manufactured by Genfar and packaged as "Sildenafilo" in a small red and white box). The Viagra is, of course, imported while the generic versions are made by a Colombian manufacturer and another manufacturer. I purchased 20 tablets of the generic Genfar "Sildenafilo" and, to avoid the prying eyes and questions of US Customs, simply removed the tablets from their blister packs and put them in an Ibuprofen bottle. The friendly receptionist at my hotel told me he bought something called "Lobo" at a sex shop in Medellin; he claimed it worked better than Viagra. "Lobo," according to him, is ONLY sold in sex shops and costs 13,000 COP for two tablets.

So there you have it. Questions / comments are welcome from other ISG members. Hopefully this information will help some mongers cut out the middlemen who lurk on this board and advertise the girls that they want you to meet.

One final note: If you like clean facilities, go to Fase Dos. If you want a cheap fuck, go to New Life. And if you want to hang out with the locals and a real "working-man's" club, go to Barra Ejecutiva. Personally, I liked Barra Ejecutiva, even if their rooms upstairs were a little nasty LOL.

[Mr Enternational]

Fase II (Fase Dos): The entry fee is 20,000 COP.What day and time were you there? The night that I went the cover was 10K.


3) Barra Ejecutiva: Negotiate directly with the girls. Prices vary wildly; I was quoted 90,000 COP (for 30 minutes) by one girl and 70,000 COP and 80,000 COP (again, for 30 minutes) by two others.I have never been told more than 70K in this strip club and assumed that was the standard price.

[UncleMonger]

Hey guys,

Me and my buddies are going to Medellin this Sunday. We were there before for only couple of days and got to hang out at mansion and got some pretty cool chicks. We were wondering is that the only place like that or are there other places to check out that is similar to mansion.

[Quagmire1974]

Good stuff Quagmire but what about your personal experience, was it good? How did the talent look at the various places you went to? What hotel did you stay at? This info is also helpful to the board. Thanks.

The blue door of New Life.

The entrance to Barra Ejecutiva on Calle 53.

The ISG asa map. The are many casas worthy of a monger's attention.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ptab=2&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ie=UTF8&mid=zzgTRtD9VTmQ.kn7YEgWmCD9EI was lodged at Hotel Sites in Poblado for 9 nights. The hotel is a 7-minute walk from Parque Lleras, a 5-minute walk from an Exito supermarket, and a 7-minute walk from the Poblado Metro station. I'll be writing a review of my stay at this hotel over on TripAdvisor within the next few days, and you'll know which review is mine because I will specifically mention this walking time again when I write the review.

Honestly, I had a great time. I love everything about Colombia: the food, natural sights, and people. And mongering is just icing on the cake whenever I've visited that country. As far as the talent at Fase Dos, New Life, and Barra Ejecutiva is concerned, there were chicas there for all tastes. I tend to prefer petite girls with natural tits and firm bubble butts and had no problem finding that type at all three locations. Guys who prefer taller chicas with bolt-ONS, big asses, and tiny waists won't have a problem finding that in those places, either.

[Quagmire1974]

Hey Quagmire, I think I met you at Fase Dos on Halloween. Glad you enjoyed Medellin, and good to hear you made it out to New Life!LMMFAO! Yeah, Halcyon901, I think you and I did meet! I jumped in the taxi and headed back to the hotel about 5 minutes after you left Fase Dos with Wonder Woman! Are you back from Bangkok already?

About New Life. I went on the Monday after Halloween. I was supposed to do the Exotic Fruit Tour with Real City Tours but they didn't run the tour that day because it was a religious holiday. So I had plenty of extra time in the afternoon. I dropped by New Life about 2 in the afternoon and they were busy as hell. I ended up taking a chica named Vivianna for a spin. She was wearing a short little skirt over her bubble butt and I thought "Hmm that might be fun. " But when we got up in the bedroom and she took her skirt off, her ass cheeks had stretch marks and I was like "Man, WTF! And then I thought about you and your comment at fase Dos about chicas injecting silicone in their asses to make them look bigger and I think that's what happened with Vivianna. After I was done I chatted with some nice guys from Texas and Maryland in the waiting area on the way out. Not a bad way to spend an hour on a Monday afternoon, if you ask me.

[Quagmire1974]

Straight and to the point! I like it!Thank you. I take a lot of pride in my trip reports. Over on TripAdvisor, I have 26 hotel reviews, 76 "helpful votes," and over 300 forum posts. The internet is a wonderful tool for sharing information, and I believe the best way to help other people have a safe and enjoyable trip is by giving them fresh information that they can use when they're overseas.

[Quagmire1974]

What day and time were you there? The night that I went the cover was 10K.

I have never been told more than 70K in this strip club and assumed that was the standard price.Thank you for this post. Honestly, I'm a little confused about the entry fee to Fase Dos as well. I was charged 20,000 COP, the Medellin also states that the cost is 20,000 COP. But on the night I met Halcyon901 at Fase Dos, he stated that the entry fee is only 10,000 COP. So it looks like the security guard might be overcharging people as often as he can. If others can chime in about the price, that would be helpful to everyone.

At Barra Ejecutiva on the first night, a chica I eyed quoted me 90,000 COP. She was petite and attractive, but the high price and the tattoo above her left tit (that she tried to hide with her long hair, go figure) was a turn-off. So I settled on Sofia (petite, 19 years old, firm body) for 70,000 COP. On the next night, I selected Julianna, a 29-year-old beautiful black pearl with a great body for 80,000 COP. I'm a firm believer that there's nothing wrong with paying a little more for quality, and that in life, you get what you pay for.

[Monger261]

Hi guys,

I've been a lurker and will be in Medellin for 17 days. I've been to Philippines, Costa Rica, pattaya, and panama. Does the Poblado area have a specific pickup bars / discotecas for prepagos? Are there any specific known hotel bars that they frequent? I've been to panama and was wondering if they have an area like Habanos bar or the Veneto. Casas are fun and all but I really prefer the free range type. Thanks. And yes I did use the search.

[MedellinGringo]

Thank you for this post. Honestly, I'm a little confused about the entry fee to Fase Dos as well. I was charged 20,000 COP, the Medellin also states that the cost is 20,000 COP. But on the night I met Halcyon901 at Fase Dos, he stated that the entry fee is only 10,000 COP. So it looks like the security guard might be overcharging people as often as he can. If others can chime in about the price, that would be helpful to everyone.

At Barra Ejecutiva on the first night, a chica I eyed quoted me 90,000 COP. She was petite and attractive, but the high price and the tattoo above her left tit (that she tried to hide with her long hair, go figure) was a turn-off. So I settled on Sofia (petite, 19 years old, firm body) for 70,000 COP. On the next night, I selected Julianna, a 29-year-old beautiful black pearl with a great body for 80,000 COP. I'm a firm believer that there's nothing wrong with paying a little more for quality, and that in life, you get what you pay for.I personally never paid more than 10,000 cop to get into Fase 2.

[Halcyon901]

LMMFAO! Yeah, Halcyon901, I think you and I did meet! I jumped in the taxi and headed back to the hotel about 5 minutes after you left Fase Dos with Wonder Woman! Are you back from Bangkok already?

About New Life. I went on the Monday after Halloween. I was supposed to do the Exotic Fruit Tour with Real City Tours but they didn't run the tour that day because it was a religious holiday. So I had plenty of extra time in the afternoon. I dropped by New Life about 2 in the afternoon and they were busy as hell. I ended up taking a chica named Vivianna for a spin. She was wearing a short little skirt over her bubble butt and I thought "Hmm that might be fun. " But when we got up in the bedroom and she took her skirt off, her ass cheeks had stretch marks and I was like "Man, WTF! And then I thought about you and your comment at fase Dos about chicas injecting silicone in their asses to make them look bigger and I think that's what happened with Vivianna. After I was done I chatted with some nice guys from Texas and Maryland in the waiting area on the way out. Not a bad way to spend an hour on a Monday afternoon, if you ask me.Good stuff buddy! All I did was New Life during the day, I think 6 different chicas in 3 days; I think I spent close to 2 hours each day there. For a 1 hour 45 minute session, it came out to 115,000 COP to the house.

Bangkok is in 10 days, and I just booked a trip to Rio in January for a few nights, so reading up as much as I can on ISG, as its my first time in both countries. Safe travels!