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SushiLover69
11-13-15, 02:43
Thank you for this post. Honestly, I'm a little confused about the entry fee to Fase Dos as well. I was charged 20,000 COP, the Medellin also states that the cost is 20,000 COP. But on the night I met Halcyon901 at Fase Dos, he stated that the entry fee is only 10,000 COP. So it looks like the security guard might be overcharging people as often as he can. It's 20 k during peak times and 10 k when it's slower.
Quagmire1974
11-13-15, 18:37
Good stuff buddy! All I did was New Life during the day, I think 6 different chicas in 3 days; I think I spent close to 2 hours each day there. For a 1 hour 45 minute session, it came out to 115,000 COP to the house.
Bangkok is in 10 days, and I just booked a trip to Rio in January for a few nights, so reading up as much as I can on ISG, as its my first time in both countries. Safe travels!Sounds like you tore through Medellin pretty well. I bow to your superior shagging skills!
You travel quite a bit, so I know you're aware that you'll need a visa to enter Brazil. They're pretty easy to obtain, just a lot of paperwork and some fees to pay and then BAM! It's stuck to a page in your passport. For your lodging in Rio, check out "Rio Guest House" (also known as "Marta's Guest House" It isn't chica friendly but it's right on the beach and a 7-minute walk from the subway station. I was at Marta's for nine nights and enjoyed it.
Have fun in Bangkok! I'm considering going there (and Chiang Mai) in 2016. Let me know if / when you drop a trip report here on ISG about Thailand.
Be safe out there!
Hi guys,
I've been a lurker and will be in Medellin for 17 days. I've been to Philippines, Costa Rica, pattaya, and panama. Does the Poblado area have a specific pickup bars / discotecas for prepagos? Are there any specific known hotel bars that they frequent? I've been to panama and was wondering if they have an area like Habanos bar or the Veneto. Casas are fun and all but I really prefer the free range type. Thanks. And yes I did use the search.Nope. No pickup bars for prepagos. You can stay at the Mansion, they bring girls in. Otherwise, use independents, casas and strip clubs or street girls. Medellin will never have a place like that; they won't allow it. They do not want to become a sex tourism destination. Everything needs to be discrete.
Black Page
11-14-15, 15:30
Everything needs to be discrete.Yup! Like in Raudal and De Greiff.
Mr Enternational
11-14-15, 19:19
Yup! Like in Raudal and De Greiff.LOL. I think he more so means discreet in the tourist areas.
Nope. No pickup bars for prepagos. You can stay at the Mansion, they bring girls in. Otherwise, use independents, casas and strip clubs or street girls. Medellin will never have a place like that; they won't allow it. They do not want to become a sex tourism destination. Everything needs to be discrete.Much thanks for the reply Esteban. Do they at least blend it with the party crowd looking for work? Is the mansion more like the sportsman in CR where they have girls loitering or they have to be called in and requested? I'm trying to see if there's any reason for me to stay in the Poblado area than an area with better hotels since I'll most likely have to order takeout anyway.
Thanks
Chris Long
11-15-15, 06:07
Hi guys,
I've been a lurker and will be in Medellin for 17 days. I've been to Philippines, Costa Rica, pattaya, and panama. Does the Poblado area have a specific pickup bars / discotecas for prepagos? Are there any specific known hotel bars that they frequent? I've been to panama and was wondering if they have an area like Habanos bar or the Veneto. Casas are fun and all but I really prefer the free range type. Thanks. And yes I did use the search.Nothing like that in Poblado, I'm here right now, the only pick up action in Poblado is the Mansion and that's geared more towards only serving its guest, it generally frowns on outsiders. Apart from that most people here do Facebook hook ups with girls. Best to try to get on the good side of some of the Medellin regulars on here and see if they will suggest you as a friend to some of the Medellin FB winners. Apart from that there are the casas during the day time, can always find a hottie in one of them and prices are pretty low but services can often be clinical tipping can often get a little more liberal service and then there are the strip clubs Fase Dose and Show San Diego to name a few at night, and then there is Mayorista street about a two to three block area where they have freelancers on one side of the street. Low prices but often sterol service. Most guys here are Mansion regulars some guys on here will do the Apartment rental thing and have FB hook ups.
Chris
Black Page
11-15-15, 16:32
LOL. I think he more so means discreet in the tourist areas.Yep, but I could not refrain to write that. It sounded so laughable (yet I understand he meant as you write).
Much thanks for the reply Esteban. Do they at least blend it with the party crowd looking for work? Is the mansion more like the sportsman in CR where they have girls loitering or they have to be called in and requested? I'm trying to see if there's any reason for me to stay in the Poblado area than an area with better hotels since I'll most likely have to order takeout anyway.
ThanksYou might want to take the time to read the Medellin forum thread, as well as checking out the threads on the Colombia index. You might be surprised at what you will find. Posters do not like to spoon feed other posters who have not done there own due diligence before asking questions.
This is my biggest pet peeve per se with the forum, is when posters refuse to take time to do their own due diligence before asking questions.
You might want to take the time to read the Medellin forum thread, as well as checking out the threads on the Colombia index. You might be surprised at what you will find. Posters do not like to spoon feed other posters who have not done there own due diligence before asking questions.
This is my biggest pet peeve per se with the forum, is when posters refuse to take time to do their own due diligence before asking questions.Or pay the 20 bucks so they can pm their questions and not tie up the board with old news that's been covered repeatedly.
Quagmire1974
11-15-15, 19:22
Hey fellas,
After I posted my monger report (11/10/2015 22:15) here on ISG, a couple of you wanted to know some additional information (hotel, etc). For a detailed report of my hotel (Hotel Sites), you can head over to TripAdvisor. My review is titled Excelente (Excellent) for Medellin! Also, I have a forum post in the Medellin Travel Forum on TripAdvisor titled Just Back from Medellin (and Surroundings): November 2015. You're welcome to ask me any questions about any of that content here on ISG or over on TripAdvisor.
Nothing like that in Poblado, I'm here right now, the only pick up action in Poblado is the Mansion and that's geared more towards only serving its guest, it generally frowns on outsiders. Apart from that most people here do Facebook hook ups with girls. Best to try to get on the good side of some of the Medellin regulars on here and see if they will suggest you as a friend to some of the Medellin FB winners. Apart from that there are the casas during the day time, can always find a hottie in one of them and prices are pretty low but services can often be clinical tipping can often get a little more liberal service and then there are the strip clubs Fase Dose and Show San Diego to name a few at night, and then there is Mayorista street about a two to three block area where they have freelancers on one side of the street. Low prices but often sterol service. Most guys here are Mansion regulars some guys on here will do the Apartment rental thing and have FB hook ups.
ChrisThanks for the detailed response chris, guess I can check out cartagena as well now. I've done the random FB and dating sites before in CR, guess time to fire up the accounts.
Mr Adventure
11-16-15, 16:01
Hey, Fellas -.
After I posted my monger report (11/10/2015 22:15) here on ISG, a couple of you wanted to know some additional information (hotel, etc). For a detailed report of my hotel (Hotel Sites), you can head over to TripAdvisor. My review is titled Excelente (Excellent) for Medellin! Also, I have a forum post in the Medellin Travel Forum on TripAdvisor titled Just Back from Medellin (and Surroundings): November 2015. You're welcome to ask me any questions about any of that content here on ISG or over on TripAdvisor.Tried last week unsuccessfully to find it but finally found your review today on Tripadvisor. Is the general area quiet, and was it chica friendly, and if so what are the terms?
Quagmire1974
11-16-15, 18:43
Tried last week unsuccessfully to find it but finally found your review today on Tripadvisor. Is the general area quiet, and was it chica friendly, and if so what are the terms?Hotel Sites is indeed chica friendly. Direct from my review on TripAdvisor:
"Single gentlemen, you might be wondering, Is Hotel Sites chica friendly? The answer is yes, but remember that when you make your reservation, make it for two people and not one. If you make a reservation for two people and then bring your chica back to your room, the additional cost is only 7,500 COP. However, if you make your reservation for one person and then bring your chica back to your room, the additional cost is a much-higher 100,000 COP".
According to the receptionist, the 7,500 COP charge is simply insurance you are buying in case your guest breaks something or runs off with hotel property.
And yes, Hotel Sites is in a very quiet area. You may hear an occasional motorcycle tearing-ass up the street, but you won't hear any highway or Parque Lleras noise at all, even though those things are only a few-minutes walk away from the hotel.
Mr Adventure
11-17-15, 15:33
Hotel Sites is indeed chica friendly. Direct from my review on TripAdvisor:
"Single gentlemen, you might be wondering, Is Hotel Sites chica friendly? The answer is yes, but remember that when you make your reservation, make it for two people and not one. If you make a reservation for two people and then bring your chica back to your room, the additional cost is only 7,500 COP. However, if you make your reservation for one person and then bring your chica back to your room, the additional cost is a much-higher 100,000 COP".
According to the receptionist, the 7,500 COP charge is simply insurance you are buying in case your guest breaks something or runs off with hotel property.
And yes, Hotel Sites is in a very quiet area. You may hear an occasional motorcycle tearing-ass up the street, but you won't hear any highway or Parque Lleras noise at all, even though those things are only a few-minutes walk away from the hotel.Don't know how I missed that part.
Colombia Jake
11-17-15, 16:18
I have earlier plugged Jake, because I enjoy the "girlfriend date experience" of going out for drinks and dance with someone who acts like she's my girlfriend. Here are the four dates from my last trip.
Note: I speak decent Spanish. I give them a total of 250-300 mil pesos, which is higher than the suggested 220 or so. You can have plain sex for cheaper, but for me the quality usually is worth it.
The first night I was with "YY", 21 years old, who has been working a regular job for one year after finishing a degree in Economics. "YY" is 5'2", slender, long black hair, cute. We went to Parque Lleras...PP, thanks again for your support and I'm sure we'll be seeing you in a few months! Steady stream of starving for sex horny guys staying here at ColombiaJake and enjoying the dates every night! Pub Rock opened this weekend in lleras and the live band had a nice sound playing covers and rockin the house! Good crowd but its definitely a place you want to bring a date. Had a group of four lonely mongers sit down near me and my girl and all they did all night was stare and wish they had what was sitting in my lap! Next time they will give me a call! Why not have Tatiana with big tits pictured below sitting on your lap listening to Rock and drinking Bud!
Thanks,
Colombia Jake.
The Tall Man
11-17-15, 18:09
Just wanted to bookend my trip with this post that I am back in the states after 2 weeks in MDE. This trip spent more time with friends and simply enjoying the city with the nightlife and outskirt areas.
Other than a few very memorable casa visits at Energy (by the stadium) and New Life did not spend much time on the hunt. Perhaps I am just getting older or my mongering days just are not as exciting as they were years back. None-the-less had a great time and I will return. I must say that the experiences I had with the casa girls were some of the best GFE, fun and playful, that I have experienced in any country at any time. These Paisas really know how to treat a man!
The Tall Man.
Hotel Sites is indeed chica friendly. Direct from my review on TripAdvisor:
"Single gentlemen, you might be wondering, Is Hotel Sites chica friendly? The answer is yes, but remember that when you make your reservation, make it for two people and not one. If you make a reservation for two people and then bring your chica back to your room, the additional cost is only 7,500 COP. However, if you make your reservation for one person and then bring your chica back to your room, the additional cost is a much-higher 100,000 COP".
According to the receptionist, the 7,500 COP charge is simply insurance you are buying in case your guest breaks something or runs off with hotel property.
And yes, Hotel Sites is in a very quiet area. You may hear an occasional motorcycle tearing-ass up the street, but you won't hear any highway or Parque Lleras noise at all, even though those things are only a few-minutes walk away from the hotel.Thank you, Quagmire1974. Based on your good research and report, I just booked a couple of weeks at this place. Appears to be a optimal blend of location, comfort, cost and quiet with a "guest friendly" environment.
My first trip to MDE last July I stayed at an AirBnB place which was cheaper but just not up to my vacation / business travel standards. It was in Laureles and close to La 70 which was cool, but that was about it. Many have good experiences with AirBnb (as well as bad ones) and I will only say for me personally, I will never again do business with AirBnb. There are many other and better alternatives for all kinds of accommodations and I simply place too high a value on customer service to be jacked around by any company with such poor customer relations people in decision making positions. Peace out on that!
Since I have business in Poblado to attend to on this trip, I think Sites Hotel will work out great. Proximity to all the festivities and restaurants around Lleras w / o having to deal with the noise when I want to rest is a huge plus. Loving to walk makes the 10 or 15 minutes to get to Parque Lleras or the Metro an easy and welcomed pleasure.
BTW. On my MDE maiden voyage last Summer, I found Fase Dos by night and Energy by day to be consistently good. Never paid more than 10 k entry to Fase Dos. And the lady at Energy as well as some other casa adventures in my case, always collected after service was rendered. Using the Metro was fun and really easy. I found the taxis cheap and just fine. If one is new to MDE, I highly recommend the "free" Walking Tour. Just google "free walking tour Medellin" and it's there. It's quite informative about the history of Medellin and will get you close to the downtown casas too sans commentary; LOL!
Just wanted to bookend my trip with this post that I am back in the states after 2 weeks in MDE. This trip spent more time with friends and simply enjoying the city with the nightlife and outskirt areas.
Other than a few very memorable casa visits at Energy (by the stadium) and New Life did not spend much time on the hunt. Perhaps I am just getting older or my mongering days just are not as exciting as they were years back. None-the-less had a great time and I will return. I must say that the experiences I had with the casa girls were some of the best GFE, fun and playful, that I have experienced in any country at any time. These Paisas really know how to treat a man!
The Tall ManGlad to hear you had a great trip. I totally agree with the GFE at most of these casas. I had a great experience at New Life with "Barbie" yesterday. Great natural tits, lots of smiling and eye contact. My last two visits there were just like that. I stayed for a full hour and it was well worth the 100,000 COP (including 30,000 tip). Got to love the Paisa girls.
Quagmire1974
11-18-15, 04:16
Thank you, Quagmire1974. Based on your good research and report, I just booked a couple of weeks at this place. Appears to be a optimal blend of location, comfort, cost and quiet with a "guest friendly" environment.
My first trip to MDE last July I stayed at an AirBnB place which was cheaper but just not up to my vacation / business travel standards. It was in Laureles and close to La 70 which was cool, but that was about it. Many have good experiences with AirBnb (as well as bad ones) and I will only say for me personally, I will never again do business with AirBnb. There are many other and better alternatives for all kinds of accommodations and I simply place too high a value on customer service to be jacked around by any company with such poor customer relations people in decision making positions. Peace out on that!..You are welcome, Jdit. If I can help even one person have a more comfortable, safer, or more enjoyable trip to a destination from which I have just returned or have visited in the past, then I've done my job.
The receptionist at Hotel Sites that you will want to become friends with is a guy named Julian. He speaks great English and was able to answer any and all of my questions that I had. We even joked a couple of nights about heading over to Barra Ejecutiva together, but apparently Hotel Sites has a "no fraternization with the guest" policy and he wasn't able to go. He usually works the 2 pm to 10 pm shift at the front desk.
The only decent restaurant (thanks to Julian) that I discovered in Parque Lleras was a place called Angel's Steak House and Lounge. I had a steak (of course) and baked potato and they were delicious. Another great steakhouse just down the street (1 minute walk) from Hotel Sites is Cambalache Parrilla Argentina. Also, try Ocio, La Cantine, Tal Cual, La Provincia, and El Correo Carne and Vino. Most of those are located at the intersection of Calle 10 and Carrera 33 and you will need a taxi. Most entrees at those restaurants start at around 30,000 COP but WOW the food is great at each location. And they'll be packed with well-dressed Colombians enjoying dinner together in suits and ties or dresses, but I had no problems dining at those locations just wearing travel pants and a t-shirt. Keep in mind, too, that if you don't feel like going out to eat on some nights, you'll have a kitchenette in your room at Hotel Sites and the great Exito supermarket just down the street. If you're a coffee drinker, try to bring back some Juan Valdez ground coffee. I bought a bag of the Juan Valdez "Cumbre" (about 15,000 COP at Exito, I think) and just finished it today. Probably some of the best Colombian coffee I've ever had!
Yes, Real City Tours does the free walking tour in Medellin. I tried to book with them but saw that I would have been on the waiting list each time I tried, so it didn't work out. I also tried to get in on their Exotic Fruit Tour but they were booked solid on the one day that I had planned to go with them. Apparently, word has gotten out that they're a popular outfit.
Again, thanks for the kudos. Have a great trip and let us know how things worked out when you get back.
John Gault
11-18-15, 20:57
If all you want is a sexo report than read no further.
In MDE on Tuesday afternoon, and greeted by rain. Also a little rain today.
Taxi from the airport wanted 70 K. I took the bus to Centro instead for 9 K,and it took a while for the bus to fill up, but I was in no hurry since this is a dental trip for me. Metro was 2 K. Got a haircut for 8 K,and a pedacure for 10 k.
I had trouble at the upstairs airport ATM. I had to use 3 different cards, and after many trys I got my money. Turns out with the fee it came to around 3050 pesos per dollar. I think when I was here 18 months ago it was under 2,000 then.
Surprised there are already a lot of Christmas lights up.
First time in Colombia when I was not excited to be in country, but going to the dentist is no fun.
Dashing Don
11-19-15, 19:44
Yes those were were great posters, but lets not forget the legendary Urbanwildlife.Indeed! Time to Play and Old Parr bear a remarkable resemblance to 'Old Urban'. And before that, Urban's 'father' was known as On The Go but he got banned in a blaze of glory back in about 2004. Its nice to see the continuity. It gives one a warm fuzzy feeling.
I'm in Medellin now because I had a dental emergency. A crumbling bridge and a greedy dentist in Ft Lauderdale had me looking for alternatives and as I was familiar with Medallo from previous visits, I quickly booked a flight here. I'm having it done at a clinic near the mansion for a third of the price. Bright, modern professional place. Time will tell but I feel optimistic.
Due to the last minute situation I couldn't get into the mansion so I rented an apt on Airbnb. A week for $45 a night, a couple of blocks from the mansion / oviedo etc. Beautiful place, but the camaraderie of the mansion can't be beat.
I seldom read or post as the topics have been covered ad infinitum but as I was here I looked at the forum and saw Urban Wildlife was mentioned in dispatches and I just couldn't resist. Even swami Ricker is still here (peace to all; pass the bong etc).
I had an early morning flight from Cali to Mde on Viva Colombia airlines. I left my suitcase at the Hotel Cali Plaza and just took my backpack. Even with the added fees, it came out to around $80.00 usd. Since I was early, I took the bus to the San Diego mall. I was expecting a regular size bus, but it was more like a mini bus. It took about an hour to get there and you pay the driver before you get off. It was $9,000 cop. Had time to kill, so strolled through the mall, used the bathroom, then caught a taxi to Jake's place. Taxi fare was around $9,000, we did hit traffic. At the apartment, I took a nap and then headed off to Energy. At Energy I was presented with about 15 girls. Most looking pretty hot. How some of you guys remember names with a lineup like this, is amazing. I think the girl I took was named Andrea. Tall slim and pretty. Her session was just okay. CBJ, FIV, DATY, multi positions but no kissing. She was a trip though, while she was doing CG on me, I lightly spanked her ass. She first had a reaction that maybe I f_ up! Instead, she tells me to spank her harder. So I do, then she says harder with both hands. I'am slapping her ass so hard I was starting to sweat. How I kept my erection with my full concentration on spanking her, is beyond me. After a while my arms are dead. I tell her to get beneath me so I could finish in mish and give my arms a break. After finishing, my arms felt like I had pitched a complete 9 inning shutout. So it wasn't the best session, but it sure was unique.
Went back to Jake's place to rest up for my blind date. The girl I was set up with was named lorena. Very pretty girl, my type all the way. She arrives around 19:15. When I get in the taxi, I think I threw her off a little. She wanted to go to Parque Lleras but I told her I wanted to have some tapas. So we went to a restaurant in Poblado called Ole Ole. It was rated high on Trip Advisor but we thought it was just okay. Many tourist there because all I heard was English being spoken. It's funny, the table next to us had a group of 6 young guys who tried to be discreet but couldn't help but look at Lorena. I don't blame them. As far as dinner goes, the best tapas was the batata bravas. Everything else was just so so. The paella was one of the worst I ever had. The rice was dry and sticking to the pan. We shared a dessert but that was just okay also. From there, back to Jake's place for some fun. The session turned out just okay. CBJ, FIV, DATY, multi positions but no DFK. Only small pecks. She left between 22:30 and 23:00 and I gave her $250,000 cop.
Today I have a date with a girl a fellow member gave me contact info. For. Thanks V. I had called her from my phone when I was in Cali, but for some reason in Medellin my phone wouldn't connect. So yesterday, I asked the guard at Jake's apt. To lend me his phone. He was kind enough to let me use his phone and I called her. (I will call her A because I'am not sure I can give her contact info. Out). The phone dropped the call a couple of times so I tried as fast as I could the tell her to meet me at a restaurant called la Cantine. I would be in front of the restaurant at 13:00. With my shitty Spanish, I was just hoping she understood my directions. The restaurant was less than 10 minutes by taxi from Jake's place. I got there around 12:45 and waited outside for her. 13:00 comes around, nothing. I'am thinking either she's not coming, she didn't understand my directions, or hopefully, she's just running on So. America girl's time. 13:15 comes around and now I'am thinking she's not coming. The restaurant is an open air restaurant so I go inside and take a seat near the middle of the room looking towards the entrance. At about 13:25, I see a young girl at the front of the restaurant. I get up thinking it's her but then another girl, her friend apears and they start talking. Now, I'am really thinking she's a no show. Then the two girls at the front of the restaurant walks away from the restaurant but returns a short time later. The the first one comes inside the restaurant and ask the waiter for something. The waiter turns towards me and points to me. I did tell the waiter I was waiting for a friend earlier. Anyways, the girl heads towards me and I stand up and ask, are you A? She smiles and says yes. I was happy, a young, beautiful chick to have lunch with me. She then introduces me to her friend. I think she brought her as protection. She then asked me if I saw her outside. I said yes but since I didn't know what you looked like and I was expecting you to be alone, I didn't think she was my date. Once settled in, we had a great time. The food at this restaurant was probably the best meal I had in Medellin. I had the Duck, the two girls had the steak and fries, which they loved. The restaurant is high by Colombian standards, but when I saw my amex statement, it came out to $68.00 usd for the three of us. But again, the food was really good. After lunch, A asked what now? I said I never been to a love motel in Colombia, want to go there? She said yes and if I wanted her friend to come along. I told her I only wanted her but maybe next time. I gave her friend some money for the taxi back home and we ended up at La Cabana. It was $85.00 cop for six hours. I know we weren't going to be there that long because I had to get back to Jake's for an earlier than yesterday date. The hotel was a little run down but it did the trick. This young 18 year old gave me my first BBBJ of the trip and it was a good one. Before we had our clothes off we were making out like crazy. My type of girl. The whole session was GFE and the best session so far. After we finished, it seemed like she wanted to go another round. I told her I wanted to but I had to get back to meet a friend. Talk about bad timing. I was getting some information from her when I realize that my phone was gone. Because of this, I forgot to ask if I could give out her contact information. I gave her $200,000 cop and another $50,000 cop for taxi and tip. If I return to Medellin, she will probably be the first person I call.
Got back to Jake's place around 17:10 for a 17:30 date. I scheduled it early because I had a 05:45 flight back to Cali the next morning. She didn't arrive until 18:45. It was fine because I was able to converse with Eric and another guest until she arrived. The second blind date was Daisy. Another looker with a great body. She said she teaches dance and it shows. I was going to take her to a Peruvian restaurant but she wanted Mexican. We ended up in Parque Lleras and she took me to one of her favorite Mexican restaurants. This should work out since I wasn't that hungry after that great lunch that I had. She ordered a burrito and I ordered a taco with fries. This taco was probably one of the worst tacos I have ever eaten. I'am from L. A. So when they say taco de res, it usually means real meat. There idea is ground beef. I took two bites and just ate the fries. From there we head back to Jake's and this girl is another winner. GFE with plenty of DFK. So for my last night in Medellin, it couldn't have turned out any better, at least when the girl are concerned.
Went back to Jake's place to rest up for my blind date. The girl I was set up with was named lorena. Very pretty girl, my type all the way. She arrives around 19:15. When I get in the taxi, I think I threw her off a little. She wanted to go to Parque Lleras but I told her I wanted to have some tapas. So we went to a restaurant in Poblado called Ole Ole. It was rated high on Trip Advisor but we thought it was just okay. Many tourist there because all I heard was English being spoken. It's funny, the table next to us had a group of 6 young guys who tried to be discreet but couldn't help but look at Lorena. I don't blame them. As far as dinner goes, the best tapas was the batata bravas. Everything else was just so so. The paella was one of the worst I ever had. The rice was dry and sticking to the pan. We shared a dessert but that was just okay also. From there, back to Jake's place for some fun. The session turned out just okay. CBJ, FIV, DATY, multi positions but no DFK. Only small pecks. She left between 22:30 and 23:00 and I gave her $250,000 cop.Thank you for your reports. Which service did you use to hook up with this Lorena?
Hi Dell,
I used Jake for the introduction.
Q.
The forum has given a lot to me so I'll do my best and give back with a trip report. This was my second trip to the city, the first being during the World Cup. At that time I was with non hobbying friends so I focused on the local girls.
Sunday, Nov 8th.
I landed around 5:30 pm at MDE and made my way through customs. The airport is mid-sized so not too hard to navigate. On the second floor there are a series of ATMs that you can use. Citibank, the one I used, was a bit further down. I was able to take out 1. 5 M pesos, but I understand the maximum is 1. 6 M. They charge 3% for the conversion, but you get the market rate so better than exchanging USD at the cambio. Next was a taxi into the city. It was 60 k pesos (20) and took around 50 minutes to get to the Mansion. I suggest using the official taxis. The amount of money that you save using an unofficial one is just not worth the risk.
The mansion itself is a nice set up. The main Mansion has 12 rooms I believe. I stayed in #1 for the first two nights which was great. I don't mind spending a little bit more as I need to also work out of my room and it's nice to have more than just a bed ha ha. For the third night I was scheduled to be in room #10 at the Mansion 1, but it was double booked with my buddy so they transferred me up the hill to Mansion 2. It was a bit of a pain having to go up there, but they gave me a 10% discount and it was nice seeing another place. Overall Mansion 1 is where the action is at and Mansion 2 is where you go if you want some sleep ha ha. Free breakfast at both and treated well by all staff.
Sunday and Monday were DEAD at the Mansion. It was my first time there and an unfortunate experience. There were 4-5 girls on Sunday and 3-4 on Monday. None of which were to my liking. Things turned around a bit on Tuesday with 7-8 girls. I think someone raised hell with the owner and they brought some girls in. Cost was 150 k, but many girls started at 200 k first. Girls started arriving as early as 7-8 pm and the best selection was maybe 10 pm. Some guys who had been there longer said there were 20 girls on Friday / Saturday so I guess my timing was just off.
On Tuesday night we also went to two strip clubs. One was La Isla which was about 10-15 minus from the Mansion and cost 10 k to enter. It's basically a big warehouse looking place (although clean) with lots of couches and one main stage. Girls were 180 k I believe and pretty hot (although lots of fake stuff). I'the say there were 30-40 there. The biggest turnoff about the place is the upcharge on everything. Beers were 20 K and they made my buddy pay 20 k for a water although it was 5 k on the menu. Couldn't figure that one out. All in all good girls, but watch your wallet! Fase Dos was the second. It's closer the Mansion and I think prices on girls were the same although there were half as many and the quality was less. We didn't get there until a little after midnight so that might have been an issue as well.
Wednesday through Sunday I ended up getting a night penthouse place near Parque Lleras with two buddies and this is where things really took off for a number of reasons. There first was that a couple of the girls we met mentioned how big the use of Facebook is for some working girls. We each created new profiles for this, added a bunch of their friends and wallah. There were 6-12 girls to choose from every day. For these 'in calls' the cost was usually 200 k (I paid 150-250 k all in depending on girl looks and popularity), but the girls were young, hot and very GFE. They usually hung around for a bit as well. The second reason was Gusto nightclub. I had heard that Blue was the place to pick up girls, but Gusto is a pretty great one now as well. You need to be careful though as there are some girls that aren't working there as well (more on that later). The best time to arrive is 11 pm-11:30 pm. Wednesday and Thursday also seemed to be the best nights here for working girls. Many would start as high as $200 USD (but we played on their jealousy with other girls and pulled them for 200 k. The trick is to negotiate with them away from their friends and to let them know ' that another girl will go with you for 200 k, but you like them better. ' That usually did the trick.
On Saturday I nearly managed to take back two non-working girls, much to my surprise. My two buddies brought their prepagado girls and I just tagged along to dance. Next thing I know there are two college age girls, including one Selena Gomez twin, glancing our way. I introduce my self, ask them to dance, and then I buy them drinks (beers) and they accept. We dance more, lots of light touching with both girls and I ask them if they want to go back to party at our place (it's around 12:30 am) and they converse and agree. More dancing and at this point I pull them aside and I offer them 300 k (thinking 3-some). This results in puzzled looks and one of them asks to switch to English to make sure she understood. Myself, being an idiot, thought that I offended them so I raised the price to 350 k. It turns out they weren't working girls after all (ha ha)!! I of course apologized profusely and they continued to dance with me, but it did end my chances with them. Surprisingly they just liked dancing with a better dressed gringo and said the local guys just wanted to grope them (if only they knew).
Other places:
Babylon – Most popular place on Thursday nights with plenty of young female Paisas and loud dance music. A local friend said it was something like 50 pesos for guys and free for girls before 10 pm and then 70 pesos after. This was for all you can drink and it was open until late.
Envy (Top of Charlee Hotel) – It's free and has a great view of the city. We went on Thursday and Saturday and there were just enough people to fill the seats. Beers were 10 k and house drinks 22 k. No girl scene to speak of. I'm told Wednesday is the best night.
Kukaramakara – On the 7th Floor of Rio Sur mall. Nice place with good live, authentic Colombian pop music. Plenty of attractive local Colombian women. We paid 25,000 pesos ($12) for entry into both Kukaramakara and Sixttina.
Sixttina – 7th floor as well. Basically a higher end club playing reggaeton and electronica. It appeared to be a better heeled clientele. More guys than girls though.
Sinko Bar – 3rd floors of Rio Sur mall. Best meal that we had in Medellin. More pricey than other places, but I still think we only paid $25 each and that was for appetizers, meal, and a couple beers each. It had a nicer crowd of upper class Colombians with some gringos and dates mixed in. Nice balcony view of the city.
Gimnasio Santilla. I like to get a workout in most days and I found this gym to be pretty good. A week pass there is 55 k, but you can get daily passes through the mansion for 13.5 k. The place is large and although the equipment is a little bit old it works. Starting around 5 pm there is usually a good group of local paisan rolling in after work and my god many of them are knock outs. No need for motivation with a dozen of them around during your workout!
Hi Dell,
I used Jake for the introduction.
Q.Ah, thanks. Just started reading up on Medellin. So far Jake seems to be a logical reference in Medellin to start off with. Especially for first timers.
Quagmire1974
11-20-15, 23:37
Ah, thanks. Just started reading up on Medellin. So far Jake seems to be a logical reference in Medellin to start off with. Especially for first timers.Dellorto, I was a "first timer" to Medellin from October 30 to November 8 and never set foot near Jake's or the Mansion. You don't need middlemen to meet chicas in Medellin. Here's how I did it:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1799106#post1799106.
I also have additional forum posts on here about which hotel I was lodged in and great restaurants in Medellin. Use my trip reports for your benefit.
Dellorto, I was a "first timer" to Medellin from October 30 to November 8 and never set foot near Jake's or the Mansion. You don't need middlemen to meet chicas in Medellin. Here's how I did it:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1799106#post1799106.
I also have additional forum posts on here about which hotel I was lodged in and great restaurants in Medellin. Use my trip reports for your benefit.Thanks for the advice and your reporting, I'll keep it in mind. Still in early planning phase.
Mr Enternational
11-21-15, 22:21
On Saturday I nearly managed to take back two non-working girls, much to my surprise. We dance more, lots of light touching with both girls and I ask them if they want to go back to party at our place (it's around 12:30 am) and they converse and agree. More dancing and at this point I pull them aside and I offer them 300 k (thinking 3-some). This results in puzzled looks and one of them asks to switch to English to make sure she understood. Myself, being an idiot, thought that I offended them so I raised the price to 350 k. So it wasn't the 300k that they were offended by. (I would never be concerned about offending a hooker by the way. If selling ass and sucking dicks for a living does not offend them, then is it really possible for me to?) Many guys lose sight of the real world by dealing in this fantasy world so often. Especially the guys who only get laid by going to a country where their money goes longer. They get the mentality that every woman in the poorer countries that we monger in are hookers and you must pay them for pleasure. If you would have gotten the girls back to the apartment and things had popped off and you had written about it, well most posters would have sworn that could not happen for free and wanted to hang you for not giving money to the poor women. But despite what the monger crowd thinks, most women are not out for money, . Some just want to have a good time the same as you do. That is why I will never offer money to ANY woman who I do not know as a known hooker. I guess you found that out the hard way by jumping the gun.
It turns out they weren't working girls after all (ha ha)!! I of course apologized profusely and they continued to dance with me, but it did end my chances with them. Surprisingly they just liked dancing with a better dressed gringo and said the local guys just wanted to grope them (if only they knew).It seems they definitely KNOW now.
The forum has given a lot to me so I'll do my best and give back with a trip report.Thanks for the great report. I learned a lot from it and it will definitely be of use to me when I'm back down there in January.
Mr Enternational
11-22-15, 09:43
What kind of freak shit is this? Can anyone pickup on the accent?
http://www.worldstaruncut.com/uncut/88501
(I would never be concerned about offending a hooker by the way. If selling ass and sucking dicks for a living does not offend them, then is it really possible for me to?).Would you be concerned about offending a politician? A lawyer? A plumber? A roofer?
What if a laborer / professional could suck pussy and make 10 times more money?
We're all the same no matter how much you care about saving a buck, no matter how many dicks a little honey sucks.
You've been pretty solid for quite a while now. Please don't unnecessarily insult the pussy stock. No one here is better than the hookers we employ.
We are lucky to be born buyers, it's that simple.
Cheers Mr. E!!
What kind of freak shit is this? Can anyone pickup on the accent?
http://www.worldstaruncut.com/uncut/88501Whehe, lady in the front just realised it wasn't a good idea to sit front row in squirt class.
I like the sounds the squirter makes though.
Mr Enternational
11-22-15, 20:21
Would you be concerned about offending a politician? A lawyer? A plumber? A roofer?
What if a laborer / professional could suck pussy and make 10 times more money?
We're all the same no matter how much you care about saving a buck, no matter how many dicks a little honey sucks.
You've been pretty solid for quite a while now. Please don't unnecessarily insult the pussy stock. No one here is better than the hookers we employ.
We are lucky to be born buyers, it's that simple.
Cheers Mr. E!!The thing is that society doesn't look at being a hooker as the most noblest of professions - not sure the amount one makes has anything to do with it. If they were proud of it then I doubt they would hide it from family and friends. I don't know of any plumbers or lawyers who are trying to keep their job a secret.
I'm not trying to put anyone down. All of us are just trying to make a buck to feed ourselves and our families. It is just that to me, to be offended by a john when what you are doing is an obvious embarrassment to yourself and your family and friends is absurd. It is something that you should already know comes with the territory. A plumber is not offended when he goes into a house and the toilet is chock full of shit, whereas a layperson may find it appalling.
It reminds me of the old joke:
At a dinner party Churchill says to his dinner companion, "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?
The woman responds, "My goodness, Mr. Churchill. I suppose I would. ".
Churchill replies, "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?
She answers, "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?
Churchill answers, "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price. ".
A hooker is still a hooker regardless of her price. Why she would be offended if she was considered a "cheap" hooker is beyond me.
The forum has given a lot to me so I'll do my best and give back with a trip report. This was my second trip to the city, the first being during the World Cup. At that time I was with non hobbying friends so I focused on the local girls.
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Gimnasio Santilla. I like to get a workout in most days and I found this gym to be pretty good. A week pass there is 55 k, but you can get daily passes through the mansion for 13.5 k. The place is large and although the equipment is a little bit old it works. Starting around 5 pm there is usually a good group of local paisan rolling in after work and my god many of them are knock outs. No need for motivation with a dozen of them around during your workout!Thank you for a very nice report; especially for a first timer.
Quagmire and Quackup: Thank you for your excellent reports. It is refreshing to see informative reports from mongers new to Medellin. Glad you had a great time.
LookingToSwing4
11-23-15, 07:48
Traveling thru MDE on my way to St Maarten. Due to award ticket availability within my available miles, I am planning to have 3 nights in MDE before I head on to SXM. Normally I rent apts for my stays, but hate to put down a $300 deposit for just a few nights. I also want to have ladies over, so I am looking for a nice hotel that allows guests. While I prefer not to pay a guest fee, that is not out of the question. I will be returning to MDE, after a week in SXM, but will have an apt for that timeframe.
Any suggestions from the MDE vets for a girl-friendly hotel of 4-star quality?
Mongerer88
11-23-15, 14:15
Traveling thru MDE on my way to St Maarten. Due to award ticket availability within my available miles, I am planning to have 3 nights in MDE before I head on to SXM. Normally I rent apts for my stays, but hate to put down a $300 deposit for just a few nights. I also want to have ladies over, so I am looking for a nice hotel that allows guests. While I prefer not to pay a guest fee, that is not out of the question. I will be returning to MDE, after a week in SXM, but will have an apt for that timeframe.
Any suggestions from the MDE vets for a girl-friendly hotel of 4-star quality?I am also interested in any replies. I am staying at the Mansion on my first trip, but the Holiday Inn Express gets good travel reviews, is in a nice area, does not cost many loyalty reward points, and some of the earlier reviews seem to indicate it is guest friendly if initially booked as a double. I an curious as to how guest friendly it currently is. Thanks.
Quagmire1974
11-23-15, 23:08
Traveling thru MDE on my way to St Maarten. Due to award ticket availability within my available miles, I am planning to have 3 nights in MDE before I head on to SXM. Normally I rent apts for my stays, but hate to put down a $300 deposit for just a few nights. I also want to have ladies over, so I am looking for a nice hotel that allows guests. While I prefer not to pay a guest fee, that is not out of the question. I will be returning to MDE, after a week in SXM, but will have an apt for that timeframe.
Any suggestions from the MDE vets for a girl-friendly hotel of 4-star quality?I was lodged in a hotel called Sites in Medellin from 30 October to 8 November. I have a review of this hotel written over on TripAdvisor titled "Excelente (Excellent) for Medellin!" The hotel is chica friendly, and this is what I said in my review about that:
Single gentlemen, you might be wondering, "Is Hotel Sites chica friendly?" The answer is yes, but remember that when you make your reservation, make it for two people and not one. If you make a reservation for two people and then bring your chica back to your room, the additional cost is only 7,500 COP. However, if you make your reservation for one person and then bring your chica back to your room, the additional cost is a much-higher 100,000 COP.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
LookingToSwing4
11-24-15, 01:06
I am also interested in any replies. I am staying at the Mansion on my first trip, but the Holiday Inn Express gets good travel reviews, is in a nice area, does not cost many loyalty reward points, and some of the earlier reviews seem to indicate it is guest friendly if initially booked as a double. I an curious as to how guest friendly it currently is. Thanks.You can just about hit the Holiday Inn Express with a rock from M1. LOL.
Just searching flights from MIA to MDE after 12/2/2015. Round trip was $153. Has anyone used this airline? I usually use either Avianca or Jet Blue, but for that price I definitely need to consider changing my airline.
Quagmire1974
11-24-15, 08:46
Just searching flights from MIA to MDE after 12/2/2015. Round trip was $153. Has anyone used this airline? I usually use either Avianca or Jet Blue, but for that price I definitely need to consider changing my airline.On Google, I searched "Viva Colombia airline reviews. " Looks like people either love it or hate it, with some of the complaints focused on Viva Colombia's business practice of adding on additional fees, which apparently drives up the price of a ticket. More frighteningly, there's a story from the UK Daily Mail from February 2015 titled "Passenger films terrifying moment plane wing bursts into flames in mid-air while flying above Colombian city of Bogota. " Guess which airline was referenced? That's right, Viva Colombia, Flight 8023 to be exact.
I say go for it and let us know later about your experience with the airline.
Quagmire1974
11-24-15, 08:55
Quagmire and Quackup: Thank you for your excellent reports. It is refreshing to see informative reports from mongers new to Medellin. Glad you had a great time.Thank you for the compliment, Vitrea. Honestly, you were one of only a couple of people who responded to my original post about the best strip clubs and cases in Medellin. And since you helped me out, I decided that I would try to help others when I got back. Hopefully I'm not boring everyone with my hotel and restaurant suggestions in addition to my detailed reports on Fase Dos, New Life, and Barra Ejecutiva, LOL.
Black Page
11-24-15, 11:58
I was lodged in a hotel called Sites in Medellin from 30 October to 8 November. I have a review of this hotel written over on TripAdvisor titled "Excelente (Excellent) for Medellin!" The hotel is chica friendly, and this is what I said in my review about that:
Single gentlemen, you might be wondering, "Is Hotel Sites chica friendly?" The answer is yes, but remember that when you make your reservation, make it for two people and not one. If you make a reservation for two people and then bring your chica back to your room, the additional cost is only 7,500 COP. However, if you make your reservation for one person and then bring your chica back to your room, the additional cost is a much-higher 100,000 COP.
Please let me know if you have any questions.I am not sure the management of the hotel appreciated your review.
Now, when a family or a woman checks TripAdvisor looking for a decent hotel in town, they might understand that the hotel is a den of working girls and single men with questionable morality and attitudes. The hotel might lose customers for your review. I am surprised they did not ask TA to remove your review as "derogatory".
I give you another example. If you check the web site of the "Mansion", you will NEVER see any hint to anything related to this forum or special guests. And of course it must be like that!
Quagmire1974
11-24-15, 12:54
I am not sure the management of the hotel appreciated your review.
Now, when a family or a woman checks TripAdvisor looking for a decent hotel in town, they might understand that the hotel is a den of working girls and single men with questionable morality and attitudes. The hotel might lose customers for your review. I am surprised they did not ask TA to remove your review as "derogatory".
I give you another example. If you check the web site of the "Mansion", you will NEVER see any hint to anything related to this forum or special guests. And of course it must be like that!I don't think the management of Sites has a problem with my review at all, Black Page, as I've rated the hotel Excellent on TripAdvisor. And apparently, TripAdvisor members don't have a problem with my review, either, as I've already received 4 "Helpful Votes" and had someone here on ISG specifically tell me that they booked a couple of weeks at Sites due to my detailed review.
And why would anyone think that Sites is "a den of working girls and single men with questionable morality and attitudes" based on what I wrote? My review is 15 paragraphs long, and I discuss everything, from transfers to breakfast to room quality to payment options. And in only one paragraph do I mention that the hotel is chica friendly, which apparently the hotel is perfectly fine and experienced with, as the 7,500 COP and 100,000 COP fees were stated to me by the receptionist, Julian. And incidentally, Julian also stated that the guests at Sites are overwhelmingly American, I think the number he stated was 90 percent. So I don't think Sites is going to lose many customers, if any at all, anytime soon.
This is the internet, a wonderful medium for exchanging information. We can either be honest and openly share information and be well-informed for our mutual benefit, or we can be silent, stick out heads in the sand, and have to settle for the same ol' hotel (Mansion) and the same ol' chicas periodically advertised by pimps in the Medellin Reports thread here on ISG. I'm happily a member of the former group, and not the latter.
Just searching flights from MIA to MDE after 12/2/2015. Round trip was $153. Has anyone used this airline? I usually use either Avianca or Jet Blue, but for that price I definitely need to consider changing my airline.Have you ever thought of using the "search function" that is offered on this forum? It is very easy to use, in your case you simply enter in "Viva Colombia" in the search bar. It is a amazing feature, try it you may like it. SMFH.
I am not sure the management of the hotel appreciated your review.
Now, when a family or a woman checks TripAdvisor looking for a decent hotel in town, they might understand that the hotel is a den of working girls and single men with questionable morality and attitudes. The hotel might lose customers for your review. I am surprised they did not ask TA to remove your review as "derogatory".
I give you another example. If you check the web site of the "Mansion", you will NEVER see any hint to anything related to this forum or special guests. And of course it must be like that!Black Page, you have to realize some people do not use their heads.
Pipe Layer99
11-24-15, 13:40
What kind of freak shit is this? Can anyone pickup on the accent?
http://www.worldstaruncut.com/uncut/88501She was speaking Spanish. But from where I don't know.
It's Spanish from Spain.
She said "vale" which is a word that usually the Spanish use.
She was speaking Spanish. But from where I don't know..
SlamCity7777
11-24-15, 14:05
Just searching flights from MIA to MDE after 12/2/2015. Round trip was $153. Has anyone used this airline? I usually use either Avianca or Jet Blue, but for that price I definitely need to consider changing my airline.When you buy the ticket there are upcharges on top of upcharges. Carry on $25 like a back pack and I think a wheely bag is like $100! If it's just you and nothing else go ofr it. If you need to bring stuff like clothing, toothbrush, shoes. That base price climbs and climbs.
What club were you partying at?
So it wasn't the 300k that they were offended by. (I would never be concerned about offending a hooker by the way. If selling ass and sucking dicks for a living does not offend them, then is it really possible for me to?) Many guys lose sight of the real world by dealing in this fantasy world so often. Especially the guys who only get laid by going to a country where their money goes longer. They get the mentality that every woman in the poorer countries that we monger in are hookers and you must pay them for pleasure. If you would have gotten the girls back to the apartment and things had popped off and you had written about it, well most posters would have sworn that could not happen for free and wanted to hang you for not giving money to the poor women. But despite what the monger crowd thinks, most women are not out for money, . Some just want to have a good time the same as you do. That is why I will never offer money to ANY woman who I do not know as a known hooker. I guess you found that out the hard way by jumping the gun.
It seems they definitely KNOW now.
Thanks for the great report. I learned a lot from it and it will definitely be of use to me when I'm back down there in January..
Just searching flights from MIA to MDE after 12/2/2015. Round trip was $153. Has anyone used this airline? I usually use either Avianca or Jet Blue, but for that price I definitely need to consider changing my airline.I used them traveling to Santa Marta and back. Yes, the prices are very decent and the experience was not that bad. However, I cannot say what the cost would be or the service about changing flights as I did not have the need to. Overall, a cheap trip and decent trip.
Mr Adventure
11-24-15, 16:08
I am not sure the management of the hotel appreciated your review.
Now, when a family or a woman checks TripAdvisor looking for a decent hotel in town, they might understand that the hotel is a den of working girls and single men with questionable morality and attitudes. The hotel might lose customers for your review. I am surprised they did not ask TA to remove your review as "derogatory".
I give you another example. If you check the web site of the "Mansion", you will NEVER see any hint to anything related to this forum or special guests. And of course it must be like that!Seriously doubt that with all the other reviews on TA, that folks will get the impression "that the hotel is a den of working girls and single men with questionable morality and attitudes. ".
Might have also gained some customers like myself and others here who asked. If he didn't post that info then how would any of us guys know? Don't think there's a whole lot of families or single women looking at MDE for a vacation,(most families and women still gasp in horror at the mention of travel to Colombia), but who knows. I have seen similar reviews from other people regarding hotels being chica friendly in other tourist hotspots.
Regarding the mansion, the topic has been closed but a brief search revealed this:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g297478-i6346-k1164706-Medellin_Mansion-Medellin_Antioquia_Department.html
Not sure what your point was, or even if there is one, or if it's just criticism because you disagree with the OP?
Black Page
11-24-15, 17:11
If he didn't post that info then how would any of us guys know? From ISG.
One thing is to post HERE that a hotel is chica friendly (everyone gives kudos for the useful hint), another to post that information on Trip Advisor or any other web site, which is used by a "general public" to get to know the reputation of a hotel before considering to book it or another.
Don't think there's a whole lot of families or single women looking at MDE for a vacation, (most families and women still gasp in horror at the mention of travel to Colombia), but who knows.
No? Also Colombian families do travel for tourism or business. Many Colombians go to Medellin for tourism or business too. And some bring families or girlfriends with them (yep "llevan lenha al monte")
Not sure what your point was, or even if there is one, or if it's just criticism because you disagree with the OP?My point is to discourage people to do that again, in order to not hinder further the business of a presumably good hotel (oriented to all travelers, who may bring or not guests to their room).
Do you think that the management would be proud to inform everyone that they are "chica friendly" Do you see that written on the hotel web site?
Yes, I assume the hotel is NOT primarily oriented to the single male travelers with our hobby.
While Colombia offers one of the best varieties worldwide of "love motels" (see my previous post about Ibiza, for example, or "Chimba de hotel"), bringing guests to good hotels is not common. As made evident by the post we are talking about, the fact that a hotel is chica friendly is noteworthy information, because it's not common.
Most hotels which want to keep a good reputation simply reject guests, or apply very high fees (Sheraton applies +100k COP fee, when the single pays around 200k)
From ISG.
One thing is to post HERE that a hotel is chica friendly (everyone gives kudos for the useful hint), another to post that information on Trip Advisor or any other web site, which is used by a "general public" to get to know the reputation of a hotel before considering to book it or another.
No? Also Colombian families do travel for tourism or business. Many Colombians go to Medellin for tourism or business too. And some bring families or girlfriends with them (yep "llevan lenha al monte")
My point is to discourage people to do that again, in order to not hinder further the business of a presumably good hotel (oriented to all travelers, who may bring or not guests to their room).
Do you think that the management would be proud to inform everyone that they are "chica friendly" Do you see that written on the hotel web site?
Yes, I assume the hotel is NOT primarily oriented to the single male travelers with our hobby.
While Colombia offers one of the best varieties worldwide of "love motels" (see my previous post about Ibiza, for example, or "Chimba de hotel"), bringing guests to good hotels is not common. As made evident by the post we are talking about, the fact that a hotel is chica friendly is noteworthy information, because it's not common.
Most hotels which want to keep a good reputation simply reject guests, or apply very high fees (Sheraton applies +100k COP fee, when the single pays around 200k)You are a voice of reason / common sense, which many on here obviously do not have. Kudos to you once again Black Page for telling it like it is. You are one of the few who continually post about reality, and are not afraid to check others at the door when it is appropriate.
Mr Enternational
11-24-15, 17:43
I thought the purpose of trip advisor was to help the traveler decide where to stay and not to help or hinder the business of a hotel. I have seen plenty of posts on ta saying the hotel was full of hookers and old guys. Certain people may read that and decide it is not the place for them BEFORE booking the hotel. It beats getting there with your family and finding out too late. Then there are others who will think it is just the type of place they are looking for. Everyone will not be pleased with every aspect of every hotel. So trip advisor lays out other travelers' observations so we can decide if the place is for us before wasting our time and money. Nothing wrong with posting the truth.
Mr Adventure
11-24-15, 18:46
I was referring to North American families and women. Yes, no different than in Venezuela where wealthy couples, families, singles both Latin and European stay harmoniously in the same hotel. This was the Vela resort in El Yaque, 2005, where they clearly listed an extra $20/ night for guest. Things are handled as discretely as possible. My point is that Latin families are aware of prostitution, and while many despise it, it is tolerated.
Agree, very noteworthy info, think the practice is more common than we realize, but info about which ones are, is scarce. Which is another reason I like to see info from more than one source.
From ISG.
My point is to discourage people to do that again, in order to not hinder further the business of a presumably good hotel (oriented to all travelers, who may bring or not guests to their room).While I think your intentions are good, this is where it becomes a free speech issue. Maybe if instead of saying "chica friendly" we say some a bit more subtle, like "If some of you single guys are lucky enough to meet your possible future fiance while visiting, you can bring her back, just register as 2 persons".
Mr Adventure
11-24-15, 18:53
I thought the purpose of trip advisor was to help the traveler decide where to stay and not to help or hinder the business of a hotel. I have seen plenty of posts on ta saying the hotel was full of hookers and old guys. Certain people may read that and decide it is not the place for them BEFORE booking the hotel. It beats getting there with your family and finding out too late. Then there are others who will think it is just the type of place they are looking for. Everyone will not be pleased with every aspect of every hotel. So trip advisor lays out other travelers' observations so we can decide if the place is for us before wasting our time and money. Nothing wrong with posting the truth.Which brings up an open question for anyone. If I am staying say 6 nites, but plan to have a guest only 2 nights, do I make the res for 2 people for the whole stay?
I thought the purpose of trip advisor was to help the traveler decide where to stay and not to help or hinder the business of a hotel. I have seen plenty of posts on ta saying the hotel was full of hookers and old guys. Certain people may read that and decide it is not the place for them BEFORE booking the hotel. It beats getting there with your family and finding out too late. Then there are others who will think it is just the type of place they are looking for. Everyone will not be pleased with every aspect of every hotel. So trip advisor lays out other travelers' observations so we can decide if the place is for us before wasting our time and money. Nothing wrong with posting the truth.Good point, but at the same time very few "internationally known hotels" and I am speaking about Holiday Inns, Hyatts, Sheratons in the world are "filled" with hookers, and in this discussion we are talking about a Holiday Inn.
Black Page
11-24-15, 20:17
You are a voice of reason / common sense, which many on here obviously do not have. Kudos to you once again Black Page for telling it like it is. You are one of the few who continually post about reality, and are not afraid to check others at the door when it is appropriate.
And you are my favorite poster in Colombia! Kiss kiss!
I did not mean to raise a flame. I guess my suggestion was received by only those who did not need it.
To cool the debate down (I'd say to kill it), please enjoy the view of my best friend in MDE (a.k.a "The Dancer" in my last reports from MDE, around September). She's a lovely person, besides having a killer body and being sweet as a candy.
This pic might also reassure everyone that I am not only "Darth Vader" in MDE (I admit some other reports of mine in that period were controversial, to say the least). Shot in a "Chimba de Motel", not in my hotel (not chica-friendly indeed).
PS: Anyone who MIGHT recognize the girl from the back, or think to know where to find her, and go around MDE showing this photo on ISG and asking "Is this you??" "Do you know her??", well is an IDIOT.
(Someone did that in CTG, with another photo of another girl posted by someone else) <grrr>
Colombia Jake
11-24-15, 20:49
Dellorto, I was a "first timer" to Medellin from October 30 to November 8 and never set foot near Jake's or the Mansion. You don't need middlemen to meet chicas in Medellin. Here's how I did it:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1799106#post1799106
I also have additional forum posts on here about which hotel I was lodged in and great restaurants in Medellin. Use my trip reports for your benefit.When I clicked on the link I see a casa! If this is your idea of meeting chicas in Medellin it just doesn't really explain what a lot of guys want or mean by meeting chicks. Your option is good for 30 minutes of sex for a cheap price that much is true but, you don't really get to know or go out with the casa girls. Its happens but I mostly hear of disappointment because the girl has worked all day getting pounded and by the time she gets off work that magic you had earlier has been replaced by I want to rest and be with my kid or family. That's why I don't use casa girls. My girls are fresh having been home all day and are on full energy when they meet you at night! You can do whatever you like but I your leaving a lot of fun on the table just doing casas. Got a couple guys arriving and going to a Thanksgiving Dinner event. Also wanted to make those who decide to go to the new Pub Rock aware that they will hit you with minimum Drink Tab if you sit in certain areas which sucks so as it stands now, you need to sit at the bar to avoid a 150,000 pesos minimum charge after the cover of 5,000 pesos. If your Spanish is not good you may get a surprise on your bill because they say it really fast and you may not even know what you just heard.
Thanks,
Colombia Jake.
Girl below gives one of the better blow jobs you will experience anywhere!
Quagmire1974
11-24-15, 23:20
Which brings up an open question for anyone. If I am staying say 6 nites, but plan to have a guest only 2 nights, do I make the res for 2 people for the whole stay?Sites has an online reservation system where from the very beginning, you indicate if your reservation is for 1 or 2 people for your entire stay. If you're a single guy, there's no danger in making the reservation for 2 people. The danger exists if you're a single guy and make the reservation for 1 person and then have a chica in your room, because the chica fee from the hotel is 100,000 COP.
And to everyone else, I'm really surprised that me mentioning that Sites is chica friendly on TripAdvisor stirred up so much debate here on ISG. To those of you who expressed support with level-headed comments, I say thank you. To those of you who lobbed criticism in my direction, I say no hard feelings. I'm only on ISG to share information and help people have a smooth and safe trip. But don't make the mistake that just because I'm an ISG newbie with less than a couple dozen posts under my belt, that I'm also wet behind the ears travel-wise. I have logged 20 different countries and 32 different international cities since I started traveling in 2008. I'm going to continue to speak the truth and provide post-trip information that people can use in their travels. If speaking the truth and providing information causes a few people to want to "check others at the door when it is appropriate" (LMMFAO), then so be it.
Mr Enternational
11-25-15, 03:52
Sites has an online reservation system where from the very beginning, you indicate if your reservation is for 1 or 2 people for your entire stay. If you're a single guy, there's no danger in making the reservation for 2 people. The danger exists if you're a single guy and make the reservation for 1 person and then have a chica in your room, because the chica fee from the hotel is 100,000 COP.When you posted it before I went on their site and checked. From the reservation point of view it was the same price whether making the booking for 1 person or 2 people. Kind of rare for Colombia I thought.
Mr Adventure
11-25-15, 09:36
Sites has an online reservation system where from the very beginning, you indicate if your reservation is for 1 or 2 people for your entire stay. If you're a single guy, there's no danger in making the reservation for 2 people. The danger exists if you're a single guy and make the reservation for 1 person and then have a chica in your room, because the chica fee from the hotel is 100,000 COP.
And to everyone else, I'm really surprised that me mentioning that Sites is chica friendly on TripAdvisor stirred up so much debate here on ISG. To those of you who expressed support with level-headed comments, I say thank you. To those of you who lobbed criticism in my direction, I say no hard feelings. I'm only on ISG to share information and help people have a smooth and safe trip. But don't make the mistake that just because I'm an ISG newbie with less than a couple dozen posts under my belt, that I'm also wet behind the ears travel-wise. I have logged 20 different countries and 32 different international cities since I started traveling in 2008. I'm going to continue to speak the truth and provide post-trip information that people can use in their travels. If speaking the truth and providing information causes a few people to want to "check others at the door when it is appropriate" (LMMFAO), then so be it.Same here, don't know why some people automatically assume that just because someone doesn't have hundreds of posts, they have never been anywhere or done anything. Like trolls under a bridge, these dinosaur "door checker types" exist on nearly every forum, ready to discourage those speak the truth or refuse to ascribe to their particular brand of nonsense. Almost as bad are the "cheerleader types" who cheer on the "door checkers" to do their arguing for them, sometimes the whole place resembles a grade school playground.
ILikeBigButts3
11-26-15, 20:00
I am seriously considering going to Medellin in a couple weeks, I am able to get very good deals on hotels through expedia but it states on every hotel that I click on the total to pay now and then a tax and resort fee due at the hotel. My question is to those that have booked a hotel online in Medellin wether you had to pay this tax, because after doing some research I'm under the impression that foreigners do not need to pay this tax. Or do you pay and then get the money back at the airport, please could someone clarify.
Anyone stayed in Aparta Suites Torre Poblado located in Carrera 42 No 9-28 El Poblado Medellin Antioquia Colombia? Chica friendly or guest fee?
Also can i find naturally curvy big booty women in medellin, casas or SW or escorts?
Furthermore I hear a lot of people mention FB as a place to meet prepagos. i've searched prepagos medellin on FB and found a couple pages with no luck on seeing any actual profiles. A member did show maybe 6 or 7 links to prepago profiles, I'm just curious as to where they advertise if at all.
Really would appreciate the help. not booked anything yet but will be travelling first week of december.
Good point, but at the same time very few "internationally known hotels" and I am speaking about Holiday Inns, Hyatts, Sheratons in the world are "filled" with hookers, and in this discussion we are talking about a Holiday Inn.The discussion has been about a review on TripAdvisor of Sites 45 Hotel. I don't see anything on their web site that indicates they are affiliated with Holiday Inn.
I see some pretty nice looking apartments for good prices in good locations in Medellin, through Airbnb. It seems to me that if you rent a complete apartment through that website, you'll have no problems taking a girl back to the apartment. However, I rarely see anyone mentioning Airbnb in this thread. What I do see is you guys discussing chica friendly hotels. Am I missing something (aside from the obvious differences between an apartment and a hotel room) or is it that Airbnb hasn't been picked up yet by mongerers such as ourselves?
Miguelito9
11-27-15, 00:03
Hello chaps,
I have noticed there are plenty of good posts and information about casas and other short time opportunities, but there is little mentioned when it comes to long time.
Well, call me romantic but I am looking for the old fashion TLN. I am wondering, are there any pick up places for quality chicas without taking my chances at a randomly chosen club?
I mean after all we are willing to pay, aren't we? Let's say places like "Helpi Disco" in Rio or "Classico" in Sosa used to be. Or is Columbia simply the wrong place that?
I answered the first question before. Show your passport (you will be asked for it upon checking in), the hotel will confirm you're a tourist on the right entry stamp, and you won't need to pay tax. Hotels in Medellin are cheap, if you are worrying about having to pay a tax and resort fee then reconsider your trip. Resort fee's and taxes are not the same, and a resort fee can apply to all guests.
Book a room for 2, and you'll have a better chance of not dealing with a guest fee. Please read previous posts on this subject, it's been covered many times. As for FB profiles, you're not going to find chicas that openly state they are prepagos. Family is an important part of culture in Colombia, and chicas would not want their family to know these things. It's really not that difficult to figure out, find a chica that has a lot of gringos as friends who are a majority of her pic "likers" and that will give you an indication if she is the type of girl you are looking for. Do you know Spanish? If you do not, or know a little bit, please reconsider your trip. You can still get laid but you're going to have difficulty in having a good time and a vast majority of chicas do not speak any english and some may even ignore you. I can only assume you are very new to Colombia based off the questions you are asking, and if you are really wanting to make this trip worthwhile you need to speak Spanish, and when I say speak I mean not rely on google translator for anything outside of hola, como estas? I've just come across too many fellow hobbyists who come to Colombia a bit unprepared and then either complain about the girls not giving them any attention, or wishing they knew more spanish. First week of December is not far off, so please do your research. Yes the women are beautiful, and you can have a great time but the chances of that diminish if you come unprepared.
I am seriously considering going to Medellin in a couple weeks, I am able to get very good deals on hotels through expedia but it states on every hotel that I click on the total to pay now and then a tax and resort fee due at the hotel. My question is to those that have booked a hotel online in Medellin wether you had to pay this tax, because after doing some research I'm under the impression that foreigners do not need to pay this tax. Or do you pay and then get the money back at the airport, please could someone clarify.
Anyone stayed in Aparta Suites Torre Poblado located in Carrera 42 No 9-28 El Poblado Medellin Antioquia Colombia? Chica friendly or guest fee?
Also can i find naturally curvy big booty women in medellin, casas or SW or escorts?
Furthermore I hear a lot of people mention FB as a place to meet prepagos. i've searched prepagos medellin on FB and found a couple pages with no luck on seeing any actual profiles. A member did show maybe 6 or 7 links to prepago profiles, I'm just curious as to where they advertise if at all.
Really would appreciate the help. not booked anything yet but will be travelling first week of december.
Airbnb is fine, you can have a good experience and a not so good experience where you feel scammed. There are other apartment rental agencies that are mentioned on here because they have a good reputation of serving some of the members on this board, so if you want to be safe you can go with one of them. There are advantages to hotels, and there are advantages to apartments. Think about it and you'll figure it out. Otherwise plenty of trip reports that detail this out. If you're a first time visitor, stay at the Mansion. People mention this for a reason. Then after you experience Medellin for the first time, you can figure out if you want to repeat at the mansion or look at something else such as a hotel or apartment.
I see some pretty nice looking apartments for good prices in good locations in Medellin, through Airbnb. It seems to me that if you rent a complete apartment through that website, you'll have no problems taking a girl back to the apartment. However, I rarely see anyone mentioning Airbnb in this thread. What I do see is you guys discussing chica friendly hotels. Am I missing something (aside from the obvious differences between an apartment and a hotel room) or is it that Airbnb hasn't been picked up yet by mongerers such as ourselves?
Airbnb is fine, you can have a good experience and a not so good experience where you feel scammed. There are other apartment rental agencies that are mentioned on here because they have a good reputation of serving some of the members on this board, so if you want to be safe you can go with one of them. There are advantages to hotels, and there are advantages to apartments. Think about it and you'll figure it out. Otherwise plenty of trip reports that detail this out. If you're a first time visitor, stay at the Mansion. People mention this for a reason. Then after you experience Medellin for the first time, you can figure out if you want to repeat at the mansion or look at something else such as a hotel or apartment.Thanks for your reply. This would indeed be my first time in Colombia. The Mansion seems like a logical place to start, but I'm also looking into other options. Maybe just to see what's possible and be able to lay out a well thought out plan to my friends. Some of them prefer to head to the Dominican Republic or Saint Martin next. In my short mongering experience I unwittingly developed a 'aversion' towards most Dominicanas, let's just say I prefer Colombianas. Not really feeling Dominican Republic so I need to convince them that Medellin should be our next stop. I've been reading through this thread for the past two weeks and will continue to catch up, building my case, hehe.
You say there are other apartment rental agencies that are mentioned on here because they have a good reputation with some of the guys on this board. Can you give me some examples of such agencies? Haven't come across them yet while sifting through this thread.
DR is still fun, if your friends are limited with their Spanish then DR is a good option. Same goes with SXM although you are limited to just a few places that are relatively close to each other. I have been to both several times, and still plan on visiting there again in the near future. If you travel around DR you can get a chance to see different types of girls, many people get the impression it's just dark skinned chicas but that's not true at all. Depending on time of year and cost of travel, MDE could be more economical. You don't get beaches with MDE.
PobladoRentals is good. All types of apartments for any group size. You have airbnb and also homeaway and vrbo, if you want to be on the safe side find a unit that has been rented several times and has a bunch of reviews. If you find something that looks great, but there are no reviews, well then you know there's a risk to that.
Thanks for your reply. This would indeed be my first time in Colombia. The Mansion seems like a logical place to start, but I'm also looking into other options. Maybe just to see what's possible and be able to lay out a well thought out plan to my friends. Some of them prefer to head to the Dominican Republic or Saint Martin next. In my short mongering experience I unwittingly developed a 'aversion' towards most Dominicanas, let's just say I prefer Colombianas. Not really feeling Dominican Republic so I need to convince them that Medellin should be our next stop. I've been reading through this thread for the past two weeks and will continue to catch up, building my case, hehe.
You say there are other apartment rental agencies that are mentioned on here because they have a good reputation with some of the guys on this board. Can you give me some examples of such agencies? Haven't come across them yet while sifting through this thread.
Mongerer88
11-27-15, 02:13
The discussion has been about a review on TripAdvisor of Sites 45 Hotel. I don't see anything on their web site that indicates they are affiliated with Holiday Inn.They are not. I asked about the hotel policies of the Holiday Inn Express, but it does not appear that anyone had any updated information, other than what is mentioned in the hotel subforum.
A lot of travelers have loyalty reward points at the various chain hotels, so staying at a true "paid hotel" is a true additional cost, and South America is just so different than Europe with respect to all of this "joiner fee" surcharge. So I was just asking to get more information for the future, since the Holiday Inn Express is in an excellent location and does not require many loyalty points.
Anyone stayed in Aparta Suites Torre Poblado located in Carrera 42 No 9-28 El Poblado Medellin Antioquia Colombia? Chica friendly or guest fee?I stayed there for a month and it's a great location, however the noise from the discos surrounding it is unbearable on Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays.
I don't know a about a guest fee, I just walked in with my visitors and they never said a word or asked for their Cedula.
Good luck.
Mr Enternational
11-27-15, 09:02
Maybe just to see what's possible and be able to lay out a well thought out plan to my friends. Some of them prefer to head to the Dominican Republic or Saint Martin next. In my short mongering experience I unwittingly developed a 'aversion' towards most Dominicanas, let's just say I prefer Colombianas. Not really feeling Dominican Republic so I need to convince them that Medellin should be our next stop.There are different strokes for different folks. DR and CO are apples to oranges. You may want to travel alone instead of trying to "convince" others to go to a place that you think you may like. Read some of the following comparisons and contrasts:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1801130&viewfull=1#post1801130
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1801868&viewfull=1#post1801868
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1802008&viewfull=1#post1802008
Halcyon901
11-27-15, 12:13
They are not. I asked about the hotel policies of the Holiday Inn Express, but it does not appear that anyone had any updated information, other than what is mentioned in the hotel subforum.
A lot of travelers have loyalty reward points at the various chain hotels, so staying at a true "paid hotel" is a true additional cost, and South America is just so different than Europe with respect to all of this "joiner fee" surcharge. So I was just asking to get more information for the future, since the Holiday Inn Express is in an excellent location and does not require many loyalty points.I stayed there a few weeks ago, you have to pay extra to bring a chica to your room (even if you registered for 2 people). I forgot the fee, it was either 100 k COP or $100 USD (I know that's a big cost difference but I never planned to bring anyone back), its on the guest registration that you sign when checking in. You won't be able to sneak them either, you have to walk past the reception to get to the elevators, and someone is always there.
And yes, it was only 15,000 points per night there. Location is good if you take cabs, since its on Avenida Poblado. But quite a trek to the metro.
2 hotels that I have not had any trouble bringing girls up are LE Parc and Hotel Diez Categoria (both around Parque Lleras). But I only brought 1 chica up my entire stay, and I've head Hotel Diez can enforce the guest policy sometimes. The bellboy at LE Parc said it was no issue, but last time I stayed there was over a year ago.
Member #4402
11-27-15, 14:16
Hello chaps,
I have noticed there are plenty of good posts and information about casas and other short time opportunities, but there is little mentioned when it comes to long time.
Well, call me romantic but I am looking for the old fashion TLN. I am wondering, are there any pick up places for quality chicas without taking my chances at a randomly chosen club?
I mean after all we are willing to pay, aren't we? Let's say places like "Helpi Disco" in Rio or "Classico" in Sosa used to be. Or is Columbia simply the wrong place that?Hi Miguelito9,
I've written before about staying at Colombia Jake's place. (Actually, it's the only place I've stayed for mongering in Medellin.) I once did TLN which was very satisfying. 300 k to the girl. Reading the board, it sounds like you can have it cheaper (about 200 k, maybe even 150 k), but as you point out, you take a risk, while in my experience Jake's girls have been consistently good in looks and attitude.
Black Page
11-27-15, 14:30
I stayed there a few weeks ago, you have to pay extra to bring a chica to your room (even if you registered for 2 people). I forgot the fee, it was either 100 k COP or $100 USD (I know that's a big cost difference but I never planned to bring anyone back), its on the guest registration that you sign when checking in. Once again, in spite of the quite liberal habits that we experience in some enviroment, of prostitution being legal (and even shown off in some areas de tolerancia), I wish to remind that most Colombians are very traditional minded. If one does not understand this, can have some problems in dealing with regular life here.
Upper-class hotels will NEVER be happy to see guests taking back a girl, imagine someone clearly looking as a prepago. And the regular guests of such hotels (families, couples, male and female business travellers) will depreciate immediately their consideration for the hotel, should they see a prepago entering the premises. All this, even if at short distance streets might be populated by girls dressed "for work" like in De Greiff.
This is so clearly understood, that all upper-class hotels impose very strict policies about bringing back "guests" to rooms. They are simply NOT happy to allow that, and they do what they can to discourage it.
In Sheraton Four Points, I could bring back my girlfriend one night, and the extra fee is 40k (I am not sure, it was a couple of years ago). BUT, the policy states that, for any second DIFFERENT guest, the fees is 100k (over maybe 250k / night fare). I asked the management, "complaining" for this, and their reply was "Sorry, we understand your point, you have two friends, they are decently dressed and they are your real friends, but this is our hotel policy, to discourage people to bring occasional ladies back to rooms".
This policy (a fee for the first girl, another super-fee for the second) is very common in Colombia.
In Cartagena, I was used to go to a small cozy boutique hotel in the Centro, until they set an even stricter policy: no guests allowed, unless the guest is registered with her name and cedula on the first day upon checking in. I asked why, claiming that my novia would have been joining me after 2-3 days, and their reply was "You can give us her name and cedula today, so we look forward to welcome her too one of the next days".
Colombians like sex and are much more liberal than, say, NorthAmericans. But the common understanding is that couples (being the girl an occasional friend, a prepago, or the official novia) go to a short- time hotel, if they cannot go at home. This explains the outstanding availability of love motels, equipped beyond what can be imagined by anyone living in USA or Europe (see Ibiza http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1775320&viewfull=1#post1775320).
There are different strokes for different folks. DR and CO are apples to oranges. You may want to travel alone instead of trying to "convince" others to go to a place that you think you may like. Read some of the following comparisons and contrasts:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1801130&viewfull=1#post1801130
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1801868&viewfull=1#post1801868
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1802008&viewfull=1#post1802008Thanks for the links, very useful. We'll probably visit all three destinations at some point (MDE DR SXM), the more relevant question would be In what order? We've done three of these trips so far and it's been awesome, so we're going to keep this going, one vacation at a time. I'm sort of in charge of planning so that's why I'm trying to get as good as an idea as I can of different destinations. I realise that you won't get the complete picture sitting behind your computer at home, but it's what I have to go with. This forum is an invaluable source of information for this purpose.
We've done a trip to Rio de Janeiro last year, and this year we went to a small Caribbean island (twice). Both were firsts for us, worked out very good (and are apples to pears as much as MDE and DR are). Now looking for our next stop and Medellin is strong on my radar, but still keeping other options open. So far I got a feeling it's going to be either DR or MDE, and I'm sure both will be good. Our guys all like latina pussy, culture, music, food and a bit of the roughness and drama that comes with it. But that's all from our perspective outside of one of the motherlands. It's time to go in.
Not really fans of camping in one spot, as we much rather be exploring and getting a good feel of the city and also doing some non-monger activities. I get the idea that choosing for Mansion or Jake will put us in a completely different space compared to landing in an apartment in Poblado, and may keep us from action outside. Probably because a lot can be had right where you are. I still find it difficult to assess the 'dangers' in MDE for a mongerer, security wise. Not convinced it's an extremely dangerous city if you stay in the 'normal' mongering areas and use common sense. I don't want to miss out on getting a glimpse of daily life as a local and definitely don't want to miss out on the 'action' tearing through the casa's. Cons and pros. Thanks again for your contributions. Will keep reading.
Enjoy your weekend.
Mongerer88
11-27-15, 16:59
Thank you very much for the valuable information. I will just plan on always staying at the Mansion if I do regular Medellin trips.
With respect to the many comments about the local culture disapproving of escorts entering hotels, I think you are overestimating how much everyone can notice. Throughout the world, including countries where sex work is completely illegal, attractive young women walk around hotels, meet guys in the lobby, and walk up to rooms an knock on doors. It happens every night in the finest hotels in the world and unless you walk right by a door while an attractive young lady is knocking, no one knows whether or not she is a sex worker.
Amazes me that Medellin doesn't think it can function in the same way. Sounds like it is something that is more oriented toward obtaining more revenue. If a person has to pay a guest fee at a chain hotel. More revenue. If he stays there and travels to one of the many well regarded brothels. More revenue for the cab and brothel. If he gets a love motel room in addition to the chain hotel room. More revenue (two rooms). So staying at a place like the Mansion, which is more expensive, can still make sense (but more revenue for the Mansion). I realize it is all worth it since the Colombia costs are so reasonable, but I am skeptical that it is to avoid offending the other guests since that does not happen anywhere else in the world.
I stayed there a few weeks ago, you have to pay extra to bring a chica to your room (even if you registered for 2 people). I forgot the fee, it was either 100 k COP or $100 USD (I know that's a big cost difference but I never planned to bring anyone back), its on the guest registration that you sign when checking in. You won't be able to sneak them either, you have to walk past the reception to get to the elevators, and someone is always there.
And yes, it was only 15,000 points per night there. Location is good if you take cabs, since its on Avenida Poblado. But quite a trek to the metro.
2 hotels that I have not had any trouble bringing girls up are LE Parc and Hotel Diez Categoria (both around Parque Lleras). But I only brought 1 chica up my entire stay, and I've head Hotel Diez can enforce the guest policy sometimes. The bellboy at LE Parc said it was no issue, but last time I stayed there was over a year ago.
Mr Enternational
11-27-15, 19:38
With respect to the many comments about the local culture disapproving of escorts entering hotels, I think you are overestimating how much everyone can notice. Throughout the world, including countries where sex work is completely illegal, attractive young women walk around hotels, meet guys in the lobby, and walk up to rooms an knock on doors. It happens every night in the finest hotels in the world and unless you walk right by a door while an attractive young lady is knocking, no one knows whether or not she is a sex worker.Spoken like a true foreigner. Wherever you go locals can take one look at a girl when she is with a foreigner and tell whether she is a hooker or not. They are not as naive as you may think. I remember one guy in the Rio thread saying how he was out to dinner at a nice restaurant with a girl and she looked so good that he people kept looking their way. I replied they did that because they wondered what this guy was doing wining and dining a hooker, not because of how good she looked. Just because something is legal does not mean it is not looked down on or is widely accepted and should be flaunted.
Black Page
11-27-15, 19:49
With respect to the many comments about the local culture disapproving of escorts entering hotels, I think you are overestimating how much everyone can notice. Throughout the world, including countries where sex work is completely illegal, attractive young women walk around hotels, meet guys in the lobby, and walk up to rooms an knock on doors. It happens every night in the finest hotels in the world and unless you walk right by a door while an attractive young lady is knocking, no one knows whether or not she is a sex worker.Really no one?
(...) but I am skeptical that it is to avoid offending the other guests since that does not happen anywhere else in the world.Have you been to Colombia?
Mongerer88
11-27-15, 20:39
Really no one?
Have you been to Colombia?Nope. With the exception of some planned group tourism activities, I will try to stay in the Mansion and surrounding restaurants to avoid offending any of the upstanding local populace.
I am more of a Europe and North American mongerer, where I have certainly had no problem with women coming up to the room, or accompanying them up to the room. I know to respect each different culture, which is why I asked about experiences with the Holiday Inn Express. But it seems to me that it benefits everyone to have women treated as equals, be allowed to roam freely, and be accepted whether or not they participate in the sex work industry. But who knows, maybe the prices would go up if that were so.
I do know that in Buenos Aires, all but one of the four ladies I saw registered at the front desk of the Hyatt and they called before she came up to my room. No "joiner fee" obviously. The one that did not was a European lady named Mia (Italian heritage but raised in Great Britain). She said she was simply treated differently in the hotels than darker-skinned sex workers. I felt a little uncomfortable with that, but she had lived a lot of different places and just accepted it as part of the culture.
I noticed that in Bangkok, the ladies automatically went to the front desk and registered. I have never seen or heard of this in Europe or North America, regardless of whether it is "legal" in that country, nor do any "guards" stop women from entering hotels in Europe or North America. So it is useful for "true foreigners" like me to ask about hotel guest policies.
Please consider this a well meaning advice. If you can, please take down your TA review. I know Sites hotel. They are good folks with good hotel at a good price and great service. A public review like that may benefit few rare single men who does know about ISG, but as Black Page says, but it is certainly detrimental to the hotel. It is not just about negative opinions about the hotel (families and couples) but there are other issues which I will be happy to share via PM.
I was lodged in a hotel called Sites in Medellin from 30 October to 8 November. I have a review of this hotel written over on TripAdvisor titled "Excelente (Excellent) for Medellin!" The hotel is chica friendly, and this is what I said in my review about that:
Single gentlemen, you might be wondering, "Is Hotel Sites chica friendly?" The answer is yes, but remember that when you make your reservation, make it for two people and not one. If you make a reservation for two people and then bring your chica back to your room, the additional cost is only 7,500 COP. However, if you make your reservation for one person and then bring your chica back to your room, the additional cost is a much-higher 100,000 COP.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
BeersTerry
11-28-15, 03:04
I will again quote a friend who said that while he understood that people need to use hookers, but why do gringos insist on taking them out in public.
They mostly can tell with one look that the chica is a hooker.
I stayed there a few weeks ago, you have to pay extra to bring a chica to your room (even if you registered for 2 people). I forgot the fee, it was either 100 k COP or $100 USD (I know that's a big cost difference but I never planned to bring anyone back), its on the guest registration that you sign when checking in. You won't be able to sneak them either, you have to walk past the reception to get to the elevators, and someone is always there.
And yes, it was only 15,000 points per night there. Location is good if you take cabs, since its on Avenida Poblado. But quite a trek to the metro.
2 hotels that I have not had any trouble bringing girls up are LE Parc and Hotel Diez Categoria (both around Parque Lleras). But I only brought 1 chica up my entire stay, and I've head Hotel Diez can enforce the guest policy sometimes. The bellboy at LE Parc said it was no issue, but last time I stayed there was over a year ago.Yes. Holiday Inn Express nails you with a substantial "chica fee". I brought my novia there the second night of my trip. They charged me a "chica fee" because I did not declare her upon checking in. And yes, it was stated there in the check-in rules. They also hit me with the hotel tax that they co not charge tourists because she was a local girl. The rules state that if a "local" stays at the hotel for even one night, they will charge you the additional hotel tax that locals pay for the entire stay. Same exact thing happened to me at a boutique hotel in Parqe Lleras. Read the fine print.
I will again quote a friend who said that while he understood that people need to use hookers, but why do gringos insist on taking them out in public.
They mostly can tell with one look that the chica is a hooker.That is a highly judgmental statement, on your friends part I mean.
So what if they can tell? I do it all the time and have a great time doing it. I do it because I enjoy going out, dancing, eating out and hanging out. Like all finer things in life, you have to put some thought into it and manage it. The girl and you have to dress elegantly, behave appropriately and pick the right place to go. For guys that like to take working girls out, they are saying that for them it is not just about sex. The girls I take out, you will never be able to tell they are working. However, you may be able to tell by looking at me that I must be paying her to be with me. My problem. Not hers. Ha ha.
The way I see it, and as long as she is willing and does not feel uncomfortable being seen with an older man, I don't care what the rest of the world thinks.
To quote a friend of mine who said the reason he does not take working girls out is because he calculates that for the amount of money I spend on a night out, he could have sex with her twice. A lot of guys think that way. I respect their decision. Their money and their choice.
Live and let live.
LatinaLover#1
11-28-15, 16:46
Yes. Holiday Inn Express nails you with a substantial "chica fee". I brought my novia there the second night of my trip. They charged me a "chica fee" because I did not declare her upon checking in. And yes, it was stated there in the check-in rules. They also hit me with the hotel tax that they co not charge tourists because she was a local girl. The rules state that if a "local" stays at the hotel for even one night, they will charge you the additional hotel tax that locals pay for the entire stay. Same exact thing happened to me at a boutique hotel in Parqe Lleras. Read the fine print.I read the law and I didn't find anything about if you have a local guest you need to pat the VAT. Here's the law:
Am I exempted from paying VAT tax at the hotel?
You will be exempted from paying 16% VAT if you are buying accommodation services like "packages" that combine for example hotel stay and transport or hotel stay and restaurant or breakfast.
The hotel must be officially registered in the National Tourism Register.
You bought a package or plan from a registered Tour Operator.
Are all foreigners in Colombia hotel tax exempted?
No, according to Colombian law 2646 from 2013 if you are a non-resident foreign visitor or Colombia national you are granted a VAT tax exemption only if you fulfill these conditions:
Original passport with your Colombia entrance stamp showing that you are not being longer than 183 days in the country.
Original passport with tourist visa TP-11 or.
Andean card or Mercosur card with stamps PIP5 or PTP-5 showing your tourist condition.
Guys, please use appropriate threads so all discussions and information can be tracked and can potentially be useful to future users. Isn't that the whole point of a forum?..... Share and discuss info for future use?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments
The Tall Man
11-29-15, 00:29
That is a highly judgmental statement, on your friends part I mean.
So what if they can tell? I do it all the time and have a great time doing it. I do it because I enjoy going out, dancing, eating out and hanging out. Like all finer things in life, you have to put some thought into it and manage it. The girl and you have to dress elegantly, behave appropriately and pick the right place to go. For guys that like to take working girls out, they are saying that for them it is not just about sex. The girls I take out, you will never be able to tell they are working. However, you may be able to tell by looking at me that I must be paying her to be with me. My problem. Not hers. Ha ha.
The way I see it, and as long as she is willing and does not feel uncomfortable being seen with an older man, I don't care what the rest of the world thinks.
To quote a friend of mine who said the reason he does not take working girls out is because he calculates that for the amount of money I spend on a night out, he could have sex with her twice. A lot of guys think that way. I respect their decision. Their money and their choice.
Live and let live.I ditto your statement. I too enjoy taking girls out for the night to eat, drink and dance. I have allot of fun as this takes me back a few decades to a time when my life was simpler and free.
Example, a few weeks ago I had a session with a sweetheart of a girl from New Life over by the stadium so I set up a date night with her a few days later. We met at a nice restaurant in Poblado, then had drinks, walked around and ended up spending hours at the Gusto disco enjoying dancing and getting drunk together. What a night! Didn't even fuck her that night but nevertheless was one of the highlights of my trip.
To each his own. And we communicate now weeks later on Whats App asking when I will return. What a sweetheart and I may add you can not teach a person how to really take care of her man like she did, all naturally. Got to love these Paisas!
The Tall Man.
AveMariaPues
11-29-15, 00:35
It's not uncommon for a woman to be with an older man under legitimate circumstances in Medellin or many other places. However the way the girl presents herself--both aesthetically and in terms of her attitude--is how people can tell or not. If you have good chemistry with a girl and she isn't an over-the-top pro ho, you are in fine shape. If you're with some high-heeled, high-skirted girl who has a tattoo of a man's name on her chest and a tramp stamp that extends down to her asshole and all she does is look at her phone for two hours at dinner, then you're giving it all away. I guess what I am saying is that if the GFE is limited to DFK, then leave her at home. If you are actually friends and can ACT normal together, then you will also LOOK normal together.
I am more of a Europe and North American mongerer, where I have certainly had no problem with women coming up to the room, or accompanying them up to the room. I know to respect each different culture, which is why I asked about experiences with the Holiday Inn Express. But it seems to me that it benefits everyone to have women treated as equals, be allowed to roam freely, and be accepted whether or not they participate in the sex work industry. But who knows, maybe the prices would go up if that were so.You are absolutely right that hotels in many parts of the world have hookers going in and out of them all the time. Happens a lot even in certain hotels in midtown Manhattan. A co-worker of mine once told me of a free show he saw during mid-afternoon, some business guy banging the heck out of some hooker in a very famous high-class hotel across his office building.
But Colombia is a bit different. May I remind you this is a country that's had some significant "security" issues in the recent past? People, even pretty girls walking in alone, are not allowed to just go in and out of Colombian hotels.
And in any case, as Black Page has pointed out, you can't throw a pebble in Medellin or Bogota without hitting a love motel nearby. When in Rome.
I suspect the language barrier scares a lot of guys into not using them. Or they mistakenly think they are safer in a regular hotel. On the contrary, taking a chica you just met to an hourly motel is probably safer for you in terms of not getting robbed. I almost always do my duplas in a love motel for that reason.
On a side note, just wanted to comment on Quagmire's TripAdvisor review. I don't think it's such a big deal as eventually the review gets lost in the pile with the other reviews, especially as time passes.
Still, he could phrase things a bit more diplomatically; instead of "single male" or "chica policy" he can use more discreet phrases, and guys in the hobby will still be able to read between the lines and know what he's talking about.
For example, you can mention if a hotel has a "strict guest policy" or that "should your friend choose to stay the evening" an additional charge of such and such applies etc.
Most people will skim over those details while hobbyists will know exactly what you mean.
I think we all should make an effort to protect our hobby by erring on the side of discretion and caution.
Mongerer88
11-29-15, 14:39
You are absolutely right that hotels in many parts of the world have hookers going in and out of them all the time. Happens a lot even in certain hotels in midtown Manhattan. A co-worker of mine once told me of a free show he saw during mid-afternoon, some business guy banging the heck out of some hooker in a very famous high-class hotel across his office building.
But Colombia is a bit different. May I remind you this is a country that's had some significant "security" issues in the recent past? People, even pretty girls walking in alone, are not allowed to just go in and out of Colombian hotels.
And in any case, as Black Page has pointed out, you can't throw a pebble in Medellin or Bogota without hitting a love motel nearby. When in Rome.
I suspect the language barrier scares a lot of guys into not using them. Or they mistakenly think they are safer in a regular hotel. On the contrary, taking a chica you just met to an hourly motel is probably safer for you in terms of not getting robbed. I almost always do my duplas in a love motel for that reason.
On a side note, just wanted to comment on Quagmire's TripAdvisor review. I don't think it's such a big deal as eventually the review gets lost in the pile with the other reviews, especially as time passes.
Still, he could phrase things a bit more diplomatically; instead of "single male" or "chica policy" he can use more discreet phrases, and guys in the hobby will still be able to read between the lines and know what he's talking about.
For example, you can mention if a hotel has a "strict guest policy" or that "should your friend choose to stay the evening" an additional charge of such and such applies etc.
Most people will skim over those details while hobbyists will know exactly what you mean.
I think we all should make an effort to protect our hobby by erring on the side of discretion and caution.Thanks, I did not realize that about the quantity of Love Motels, so that is quite helpful. That is the way it is with Pattaya with motels practically attached to the Beer Halls. Although it is less about registering and more about minimizing the transit time of the ladies. But one thing I like about using my own room is that it is easier to lay it a person's own supplies and "fun stuff", so I have never been as into incall or Love Motels. So the Mansion seems a good choice for me.
On travel reviews, I probably would just note that it was very easy for friends to come up to the room without the security hassle at so many Medellin hotels. Johns would get the drift, but it would go right past most everyone else.
Your friend can't speak the local language, blend-in, dance or look like a younger woman would have a legitimate reason to be with him. Or maybe not, different strokes for different folks. The point is I don't care what someone else does with their time and money- and neither should he.
Only good energy! L.
I will again quote a friend who said that while he understood that people need to use hookers, but why do gringos insist on taking them out in public.
They mostly can tell with one look that the chica is a hooker.
It's not uncommon for a woman to be with an older man under legitimate circumstances in Medellin or many other places. However the way the girl presents herself--both aesthetically and in terms of her attitude--is how people can tell or not. If you have good chemistry with a girl and she isn't an over-the-top pro ho, you are in fine shape. If you're with some high-heeled, high-skirted girl who has a tattoo of a man's name on her chest and a tramp stamp that extends down to her asshole and all she does is look at her phone for two hours at dinner, then you're giving it all away. I guess what I am saying is that if the GFE is limited to DFK, then leave her at home. If you are actually friends and can ACT normal together, then you will also LOOK normal together.Nice post.
SlamCity7777
11-30-15, 00:58
It's not uncommon for a woman to be with an older man under legitimate circumstances in Medellin or many other places. However the way the girl presents herself--both aesthetically and in terms of her attitude--is how people can tell or not. If you have good chemistry with a girl and she isn't an over-the-top pro ho, you are in fine shape. If you're with some high-heeled, high-skirted girl who has a tattoo of a man's name on her chest and a tramp stamp that extends down to her asshole and all she does is look at her phone for two hours at dinner, then you're giving it all away. I guess what I am saying is that if the GFE is limited to DFK, then leave her at home. If you are actually friends and can ACT normal together, then you will also LOOK normal together.In DR, CR, Colo, Peru, Arg, Ect. If a guy is with a SUPER hot girl and he speaks 3 maybe 8 words of Spanish and she speaks 0 or 2 words of English. This is the dead give a way. Like in the USA I worked in nice bars and steak houses all in my College days. Its the way the girl dresses and if the guy is not dressed accordingly. If he's in Jean and a polo shirt; you know looking nice and presentable and she's in a slutty dress and 8 inches heels? Not too hard to figure out.
In DR, CR, Colo, Peru, Arg, Ect. If a guy is with a SUPER hot girl and he speaks 3 maybe 8 words of Spanish and she speaks 0 or 2 words of English. This is the dead give a way. Like in the USA I worked in nice bars and steak houses all in my College days. Its the way the girl dresses and if the guy is not dressed accordingly. If he's in Jean and a polo shirt; you know looking nice and presentable and she's in a slutty dress and 8 inches heels? Not too hard to figure out.What's "funny" to me is that even when I've asked a girl to dress conservatively or casually she will still come dressed like a puta. I guess they sometimes feel they are looking appropriate, sexy, classy from the POV they develop in their surroundings.
Soldierb11
12-02-15, 02:50
Hello chaps,
I have noticed there are plenty of good posts and information about casas and other short time opportunities, but there is little mentioned when it comes to long time.
Well, call me romantic but I am looking for the old fashion TLN. I am wondering, are there any pick up places for quality chicas without taking my chances at a randomly chosen club?
I mean after all we are willing to pay, aren't we? Let's say places like "Helpi Disco" in Rio or "Classico" in Sosa used to be. Or is Columbia simply the wrong place that?In Colombia one can find TLN most anywhere. In Columbia , I am not so sure.
The closest thing to the old Help in Rio is La Dolce Vita in Cartagena. I remember in 2009 a TLN from LDV turned into a todo la semana. In Medellin you can session with a girl at Fase2 for 180 and get her number and set up a TLN on her night off for 300 k if you have a modicum of game.
Getting a TLN in Colombia is really the same as it is in Thailand, CR, Brazil and yes in the US of A. If you build rapport and have a connection with the girl your chances for ST vs. LT go up dramatically.
K Constant
12-02-15, 07:56
Hello chaps,
Well, call me romantic but I am looking for the old fashion TLN. I am wondering, are there any pick up places for quality chicas without taking my chances at a randomly chosen club?
I mean after all we are willing to pay, aren't we? Let's say places like "Helpi Disco" in Rio or "Classico" in Sosa used to be. Or is Columbia simply the wrong place that?There isn't an equivalent to Classico or Mab's in MDE; there is no well-known freelancer pickup bar. This is one of the laments for MDE. You've got the casas, the strip clubs, the massage parlors, and the streetwalkers, but no FL bars. Or, not any that are known to us, the average gringo monger w / limited Spanish.
However, there is a nightlife scene at Parque Lleras, and we did visit it during our trip in May. However, the paisas come and go in groups, it's not a singles' scene. They are notoriously cliquish, but we didn't find them to be too terrible. MDE bar scene is the kind of place you visit with a girl you have pipelined beforehand on ColombianCupid.
BlueChange
12-02-15, 13:28
Let's say places like "Helpi Disco" in Rio THROWBACK!! Wow I have soo many great stories from there. Such a shame it closed down.
AveMariaPues
12-02-15, 16:24
In DR, CR, Colo, Peru, Arg, Ect. If a guy is with a SUPER hot girl and he speaks 3 maybe 8 words of Spanish and she speaks 0 or 2 words of English. This is the dead give a way. Like in the USA I worked in nice bars and steak houses all in my College days. Its the way the girl dresses and if the guy is not dressed accordingly. If he's in Jean and a polo shirt; you know looking nice and presentable and she's in a slutty dress and 8 inches heels? Not too hard to figure out.Good point, personally I figured that went without saying (how can you act natural and appear actual friends without speaking the same language?) however the comportment of other gringos in Colombia tells me differently. Some of these guys have been coming for years and still can't get past "cuanto cuesta la pussy?
...Getting a TLN in Colombia is really the same as it is in Thailand, CR, Brazil and yes in the US of A. If you build rapport and have a connection with the girl your chances for ST vs. LT go up dramatically.Sorry, but I disagree.
For TLN, Colombia is nothing like Thailand, where you can buy pussy by the pound and keep it as long as you want. Now, the US? You must be joking, right?
Also, difficult to build rapport and connection when you're there for a week, with limited language ability.
What's "funny" to me is that even when I've asked a girl to dress conservatively or casually she will still come dressed like a puta. I guess they sometimes feel they are looking appropriate, sexy, classy from the POV they develop in their surroundings.I am always puzzled by that behavior. Now, I try to avoid going out with a working girl as much as possible.
Black Page
12-02-15, 20:30
Also, difficult to build rapport and connection when you're there for a week, with limited language ability.
Ohw YES! You caught where's the flaw. Time for bravest guys to invest some time to learn/improve Spanish before traveling, unless one is satisfied with a series of ST sessions and visits at local brothels, maybe accompanied by an older brother.
PS: I just bought "Easy Indonesian". If I find the time to study it a bit, it could be the best spent 20$ of last years.
Soldierb11
12-02-15, 22:56
Sorry, but I disagree.
For TLN, Colombia is nothing like Thailand, where you can buy pussy by the pound and keep it as long as you want. Now, the US? You must be joking, right?
Also, difficult to build rapport and connection when you're there for a week, with limited language ability.Colombia v Thailand v USA are different in many many things but what remains the same world over is simply build a connection and your chances increase she will stay longer or overnight.
Example 1: all the fuck over the Pattaya boards and AC boards people are lamenting that girls just don't go LT from the gogos much anymore. Bullshit, they do. Every girl that I wanted to take LT in those places in Sept. / Oct. Did why? Because I had spent time with them building a connection. One time exactly as I was paying my BF there was another guy next to me trying to take a far uglier dancer out. She wouldn't go LT with him, refused even when he offered her 1000 more. I asked my girl about this 15 minutes later when we were in a restaurant, she said "my friend no like he".
Example 2: the US if a guy dresses like a slob, doesn't pretend to listen at least to the woman's ramblings about her life, smells bad, etc, end of date the date is over. Finito. He is charming, shows her a good time, chances increase she goes home with him. This I hear every god damn Monday morning at work when my female colleagues were discussing what happened over the weekend.
A connection is begun the moment you walk in the club within 10 minutes the girl has already made her judgments, connection continues to be built over time.
Anyone here ever done a trip to the Mansion over New Years? I have most of that week free, and was thinking of booking a trip. Do girls come to party? Or do they stay home with family? I was thinking of coming by for Dec 30-Jan3.
If it will suck, does anyone know of a relatively good punting destination that is good to go to for the New Years? Doesn't have to be Colombia.
Thanks!
SlamCity7777
12-03-15, 02:14
Anyone here ever done a trip to the Mansion over New Years? I have most of that week free, and was thinking of booking a trip. Do girls come to party? Or do they stay home with family? I was thinking of coming by for Dec 30-Jan3.
If it will suck, does anyone know of a relatively good punting destination that is good to go to for the New Years? Doesn't have to be Colombia.
Thanks!Search the key words Medellin Dec and you should get a good number of results. The two weeks before Christmas are some of the best times to visit. The Christmas-NYE to like 10 days after are horrible!
Girls go away with family and everything is 40% less quiet. All the girls go to the Finca with their families; think of it like how a long weekend drys up the city back home in the states. Now that by 4.
PianoPlayer
12-03-15, 03:16
Both of my suggestions require you to speak decent Spanish and are late night / early morning, and will work better on weekends. First, you can try Luna Lunera near closing time (2 or 3 am I believe). The chicas there will often be happy to leave with you, or meet you at your apartment, especially if you have bought them a few drinks. The second option is Fahrenheit disco after 3 am or so. It is a regular disco with normal couples and chicas but plenty of prepagos as well, including some who go there after the strip clubs close. In both cases 150 K to 250 K pesos might get you TLN.
Hello chaps,
I have noticed there are plenty of good posts and information about casas and other short time opportunities, but there is little mentioned when it comes to long time.
Well, call me romantic but I am looking for the old fashion TLN. I am wondering, are there any pick up places for quality chicas without taking my chances at a randomly chosen club?
I mean after all we are willing to pay, aren't we? Let's say places like "Helpi Disco" in Rio or "Classico" in Sosa used to be. Or is Columbia simply the wrong place that?
Colombia Jake
12-03-15, 15:23
Hi Miguelito9,
I've written before about staying at Colombia Jake's place. (Actually, it's the only place I've stayed for mongering in Medellin.) I once did TLN which was very satisfying. 300 k to the girl. Reading the board, it sounds like you can have it cheaper (about 200 k, maybe even 150 k), but as you point out, you take a risk, while in my experience Jake's girls have been consistently good in looks and attitude.Thanks and heard from two full timers who live here this week, who are very sharp about being taken advantage of, got drugged and robbed after inviting a girl over from Colombia Cupid! The girl was very disarming by saying she wasn't there for money and she was a veterinarian. At some point she was able to put a sedative not sure which, but the police didn't think it was Scopolamine into their drinks and both went out for several hours while she cleaned house. Between the two she got $7,000 and neither got laid, so there's one more reason my service is helpful. Don't be penny wise and pound foolish!
Thanks,
Colombia Jake
Iguana Six
12-03-15, 20:00
THROWBACK!! Wow I have soo many great stories from there. Such a shame it closed down.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY
Then, you should appreciate this little gem.
Soldierb11
12-03-15, 22:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY
Then, you should appreciate this little gem.I watch this video again and again whenever I feel sad. It is one of the funniest things I have ever seen.
If you are fortunate to have been to help back in its heyday this video will first make you cry from laughter and then cry because help is gone.
DarkWing21
12-04-15, 00:19
Hey everyone!
I am a new user to the guide so I'm looking forward to sharing my experiences and reading about yours.
On to business! So, this is my first time coming to Colombia and I have heard a lot of great things and that Medellin was the place to go, so, that's where I am going.
Can I get some guidance and help about what bars or clubs to go to for girls? I have been to Tijuana, Thailand, Manila, really all over so I am not sure if I bar fine a girl or I just go to an actual "brothel" or how it works best in Medellin.
I have heard of a place called the mansion, I have read about Colombia Jake and I have seen many ads for independent escorts with flat rates. My head is spinning! I'm going to be there for 3 days, where is the best place to go or what is my best option for the hottest girls with those famous Colombian curves!?
Thanks! If I can offer any help or guidance about any of my previous travels let me know!
Darkwing!
Member #4398
12-04-15, 03:59
Hey everyone!
I have heard of a place called the mansion, I have read about Colombia Jake and I have seen many ads for independent escorts with flat rates. My head is spinning! I'm going to be there for 3 days, where is the best place to go or what is my best option for the hottest girls with those famous Colombian curves!?
It seems like you are leaning towards the Mansion or ColombianJake. I would say don't break your head. Keep it simple. The hot Colombian girls are everywhere. Since you only have 3 days, make a decision to staying with either one and enjoy those three days to the fullest. You won't go wrong by going to the Mansion or Colombianjake. The problem you have is one of limited time and too many P4P options in Medellin. Just keep it simple and make your reservation. At the mansion or Colombianjake, you will get your Colombian curves, will get the chance to explore other places, casas, night clubs, etc, and will get the guidance that you need so they are both good points to start for a newbie in Medellin.
Soldierb11
12-04-15, 04:32
Hey everyone!
I am a new user to the guide so I'm looking forward to sharing my experiences and reading about yours.
On to business! So, this is my first time coming to Colombia and I have heard a lot of great things and that Medellin was the place to go, so, that's where I am going.
Can I get some guidance and help about what bars or clubs to go to for girls? I have been to Tijuana, Thailand, Manila, really all over so I am not sure if I bar fine a girl or I just go to an actual "brothel" or how it works best in Medellin.
I have heard of a place called the mansion, I have read about Colombia Jake and I have seen many ads for independent escorts with flat rates. My head is spinning! I'm going to be there for 3 days, where is the best place to go or what is my best option for the hottest girls with those famous Colombian curves!?
Thanks! If I can offer any help or guidance about any of my previous travels let me know!
Darkwing!Welcome.
Wow only 3 days? First advice would be at least lengthen that a day or two. Colombia is not like SEA where the girls are served to you on a platter. Generally speaking there isn't much done in the classic BF model from SEA.
Most of the daytime action is centered around the Casas downtown or perhaps calling a freelancer over to your place. Night time action can be the strip clubs like Fase2 or Luna lunera or others along with dates set up again with free lancers you have met online or exchanged numbers with at the strip club, the mall, gym etc.
How is your Spanish? It is a rare girl here that speaks more than 10 words of English. Even if you do speak Spanish well I would consider staying at the Mansion your first time especially since you are staying only 3 days. If you strikeout one day you have lost 33% of your trip. When I go for a month and strike out one day I lost 3% of my trip. The Mansion is kinda like a bed and breakfast house. Girls come and hang out by the pool during the day and at night some stay and some go home to take care of their babies and then more girls show up to their bar. Girls pretty much go for 150 k pesos for 1-2 hrs. All night is usually 300 k. Very easy to have a good time there. Bad news is the quality of the girls is 7's? Almost never 9-10's. The other benefit is at the mansion you will meet a bunch of other guys in Medellin doing what you are doing and you possibly can join in on a casa tour or strip club run.
Now you need to go RTFF. All the info is in there, yes you have to sift through a lot of useless posts but in between there is good info. I don't mean go back 5 pages I mean 100. For my trip to Pattaya in September I went back 100 pages and read forward and I am not new to Pattaya as you are to Colombia. I've been there 8 times and spent a total of 6 months there but still I went back and read.
I watch this video again and again whenever I feel sad. It is one of the funniest things I have ever seen.
If you are fortunate to have been to help back in its heyday this video will first make you cry from laughter and then cry because help is gone.Agreed. Watched some videos people had filmed inside and outside. Brings back memories. I hope the city is happy now having made it so fewer of their citizens have a chance to make much needed income.
C Jack Sparrow
12-04-15, 15:55
One of my friends has no where to stay.
She is stunning, 25 yo + son 5 yo.
Educated, really a good friend. Since I have been to Medellin many times for several years, I'm home in nearby Copenhagen now and don't return until June or August, many friends that are short in supply. This time she is Cero in supply.
I have told her that she destroys for me and make my existence here at ISG, where I get her clients, all that is lost if she try to steal or anything bad.
And if you accept her, to having her as a friend, you have a temporal novia; I said like 100 k COP a day, if you want full sexservice; and she get's housing, alimentation etc.
She is stunning and just need a good guy to take care of her until she is back on her feets!
I have given her 3 clients from ISG, her name has been EVITA.
PM for contact info if really interested.
AveMariaPues
12-04-15, 19:09
Hey everyone!
I am a new user to the guide so I'm looking forward to sharing my experiences and reading about yours.
On to business! So, this is my first time coming to Colombia and I have heard a lot of great things and that Medellin was the place to go, so, that's where I am going.
Can I get some guidance and help about what bars or clubs to go to for girls? I have been to Tijuana, Thailand, Manila, really all over so I am not sure if I bar fine a girl or I just go to an actual "brothel" or how it works best in Medellin.
I have heard of a place called the mansion, I have read about Colombia Jake and I have seen many ads for independent escorts with flat rates. My head is spinning! I'm going to be there for 3 days, where is the best place to go or what is my best option for the hottest girls with those famous Colombian curves!?
Thanks! If I can offer any help or guidance about any of my previous travels let me know!
Darkwing!Hey man,
In my opinion three days is a very short time but you're lucky in that outside of pussy and partying, there isn't much "can't-miss" stuff here.
You can go to the Mansion and be with hardcore pros and a bunch of other gringos. You may like it. If you want girls that are a little fresher, go to Lindas Chicas. Girls are there from like 10 PM onward and you can take them all night long. I honestly think it is your best bet for quality trim, though you will pay a premium price. Yes, you could mine the MPs and get for $15 what you get for $75 there, but you could also find a bunch of ugly slags depending on the day. Plus what you would do at night? You can tell the LC girls all night, rest and chill all day, then return. That is my advice, the service there is exceptional and many of the girls are very beautiful. All are younger and fresher than what you'd generally find elsewhere.
AveMariaPues
12-04-15, 19:13
Both of my suggestions require you to speak decent Spanish and are late night / early morning, and will work better on weekends. First, you can try Luna Lunera near closing time (2 or 3 am I believe). The chicas there will often be happy to leave with you, or meet you at your apartment, especially if you have bought them a few drinks. The second option is Fahrenheit disco after 3 am or so. It is a regular disco with normal couples and chicas but plenty of prepagos as well, including some who go there after the strip clubs close. In both cases 150 K to 250 K pesos might get you TLN.There are lots of TLN options. You can multa (bar fine) girls from Barra Ejecutiva and Maracaibo. You used to be able to from San Diego, not sure if you still can. Fase II and Lindas Chicas you definitely can, though they are more expensive (LC is worth it sometimes, F2 not so much anymore). Independents will do TLN. MP girls might go for it, especially if they don't have kids.
Waiting around until the middle of the night might save you the bar fine but it will also kill a lot of your time. I have never fully understood that strategy, does not appeal to me at all.
Sargent 50
12-05-15, 04:50
Is there such a thing down here? Thinking of going 28-31 of this month wondering if it would be worth it?
ILikeBigButts3
12-05-15, 14:36
I'm headed to Medellin on Tuesday, currently stuck in Bogota. Won't be mongering here, too much traffic. Where in medellin can I find women with big butts in Medellin, I don't mean with implants or any kind of surgery but big curvy big bootied women please. I will head to all the places I see listed to check it out but any pointers will be gladly appreciated. I understand perhaps medellin or even Colombia isn't the ideal place for what I'm looking for but I'm willing to put in the effort.
Thanks in advance.
Is there such a thing down here? Thinking of going 28-31 of this month wondering if it would be worth it?I suggest you read the fucking forum before asking questions.
Lucky Nuts
12-05-15, 17:33
I'm headed to Medellin on Tuesday, currently stuck in Bogota. Won't be mongering here, too much traffic. Where in medellin can I find women with big butts in Medellin, I don't mean with implants or any kind of surgery but big curvy big bootied women please. I will head to all the places I see listed to check it out but any pointers will be gladly appreciated. I understand perhaps medellin or even Colombia isn't the ideal place for what I'm looking for but I'm willing to put in the effort.
Thanks in advance.Check out Chicas Puntos Com near Parque Bolivar in El Centro. I wouldn't say they specialize in that but they have a wide selection and lean towards the larger sizes. Be sure to check out both of the two reception / viewing rooms.
AveMariaPues
12-05-15, 18:29
I'm headed to Medellin on Tuesday, currently stuck in Bogota. Won't be mongering here, too much traffic. Where in medellin can I find women with big butts in Medellin, I don't mean with implants or any kind of surgery but big curvy big bootied women please. I will head to all the places I see listed to check it out but any pointers will be gladly appreciated. I understand perhaps medellin or even Colombia isn't the ideal place for what I'm looking for but I'm willing to put in the effort.
Thanks in advance.Go casa hopping, you will find women like this at chicas.com and the other one by it as someone said. New life always has several (though they have variety). A lot of the smaller casas also have it. Contact Jonesie or someone experienced for a casa tour. You will find a *ton* of women like this plying their trade. In some cases they are at a big casa and they are somewhat unpopular (though often they are popular) and many times they are at small, less frequented casas. Only a few (aiffe, zandalay, yakuza, etc) specialize in skinny girls and even there you will find a fat bottomed one here or there. Lots of non pro gorditas too. You will find this body type in abundance and very cheap, less than $20 USD.
Mr Enternational
12-05-15, 18:31
There are lots of TLN options. You can multa (bar fine) girls from Barra Ejecutiva and Maracaibo.
Waiting around until the middle of the night might save you the bar fine but it will also kill a lot of your time. I have never fully understood that strategy, does not appeal to me at all.What I don't understand is taking a chick from a sport fucking venue for TLN. The last thing on my mind after watching a chick go upstairs with two guys in the last hour is, "Gee, I sure would like to have HER for the rest of the night. " Not saying that any other massage or facebook chick could not have done the same thing, but I didn't just watch them do it.
AveMariaPues
12-05-15, 18:32
Is there such a thing down here? Thinking of going 28-31 of this month wondering if it would be worth it?In my opinion Dec 24 through 31 are about the worst time you can go. Semana Santa from Thursday to (Easter) Sunday is pretty bad, too. Lots of family stuff.
I would say come sooner. Right *before* the holidays, say Nov 25 until Dec 22 roughly, great time to be here. Everyone is out selling their ass for Christmas money. Loads of semi pros, former pros, etc coming out of the woodwork, great competition.
AveMariaPues
12-05-15, 18:34
What I don't understand is taking a chick from a sport fucking venue for TLN. The last thing on my mind after watching a chick go upstairs with two guys in the last hour is, "Gee, I sure would like to have HER for the rest of the night. " Not saying that any other massage or facebook chick could not have done the same thing, but I didn't just watch them do it.It depends, you can catch the girl when she just arrived and it's fine. I agree with you in general, that is another reason I don't get the guys who wait until 2 AM to make their move.
That is another reason I recommend Lindas Chicas. The girls charge more but they work less. If they got one client in a night, that's good, two is *great*. Plus they arrive late. So you can get there between 10 and 12 at night and still catch a fresh one. They mostly sleep all day LOL, especially since they are there working until 5 AM. The girls give great company and service, too. If they don't the mamasan cracks down hard on them.
I lived in Medellin for 6 months 5 years ago. I understand much has changed.
Question: Is there a directory / guide / listing that independents use? I know there are companies that serve as brokers / middlemen. I am more interested in just establishing contact and scheduling appointments. Also, I am staying in a nice hotel in El Poblado. I would imagine they will "scorn" a visitor. Are there any new temporary accommodations for a fuck fest that is clean and secure.
What I don't understand is taking a chick from a sport fucking venue for TLN. The last thing on my mind after watching a chick go upstairs with two guys in the last hour is, "Gee, I sure would like to have HER for the rest of the night. " Not saying that any other massage or facebook chick could not have done the same thing, but I didn't just watch them do it.With all due respect, but: why not?
Hey man,
In my opinion three days is a very short time but you're lucky in that outside of pussy and partying, there isn't much "can't-miss" stuff here.
You can go to the Mansion and be with hardcore pros and a bunch of other gringos. You may like it. If you want girls that are a little fresher, go to Lindas Chicas. Girls are there from like 10 PM onward and you can take them all night long. I honestly think it is your best bet for quality trim, though you will pay a premium price. Yes, you could mine the MPs and get for $15 what you get for $75 there, but you could also find a bunch of ugly slags depending on the day. Plus what you would do at night? You can tell the LC girls all night, rest and chill all day, then return. That is my advice, the service there is exceptional and many of the girls are very beautiful. All are younger and fresher than what you'd generally find elsewhere.Ave María Pues. Where is this located?
Quagmire1974
12-06-15, 08:03
I lived in Medellin for 6 months 5 years ago. I understand much has changed.
Question: Is there a directory / guide / listing that independents use? I know there are companies that serve as brokers / middlemen. I am more interested in just establishing contact and scheduling appointments. Also, I am staying in a nice hotel in El Poblado. I would imagine they will "scorn" a visitor. Are there any new temporary accommodations for a fuck fest that is clean and secure.Look into a hotel named Sites. It's in Poblado and I was lodged there from 28 October to 9 November of this year. I have a review of the hotel titled "Excelente (Excellent) for Medellin!" over on TripAdvisor. Sites is chica friendly and is a 7-minute walk to a nearby Exito supermarket, a 9-minute walk to the Poblado Metro station, a 10-minute walk to Parque Lleras, and a 12-minute walk to Oviedo Mall.
With all due respect, but: why not?Ha ha, well some guys have the eww-gross factor of thinking these chicas have already had 2 or 3 dicks inside her within a 24-hour period or less. Maybe she even let them pop in her mouth. The DFK doesn't seem so appealing. At one level, it seems silly and hypocritical; but at another level, maybe those guys have a point.
But putting aside the eww-gross factor, I do think the chica's energy level and overall eagerness to have the session with you will be somewhat depleted by the third client of the day or evening.
Waiting around until the middle of the night might save you the bar fine but it will also kill a lot of your time. I have never fully understood that strategy, does not appeal to me at all. Funny you mentioned that, I've kind of evolved on that as well. I hated paying multas because I felt like the venue was ripping me off and I'd rather pay a bit more to the girl than some middle-man.
Of course, if this page was a forum for strip club and brothel owners, we'd be complaining about cheap-ass gringos, LOL, trying to pick up our girls for free while we do all the hard work of recruiting non-flaky chicas who show up on time to their job, and all the expenses, bribes, and pay-offs involved in running such a venue.
Sometimes, I now pay the multa to take the chica out. It depends on the situation, the vibe I'm getting from the girl and other factors. This is something you just have to feel out, is on a case-by-case basis.
I also don't have the energy level I used to. Sometimes I'd wait for a chica till she finishes her shift at 2, then go to an after-hours spot, then back to my place. Sleep like a vampire all day. Now that I'm in my 40's, I can't really play like that anymore, LOL.
By the way, you can even pay a multa to take a chica out of certain day casas. I've found that some of these chicas, usually instructed by certain venues to NOT give BBBJ, can get pretty wild once you take them off-premises.
Bro unless you have 500 plus chicks on your Facebook you will have a hard time getting girls to show up during those dates. Half of the girls are already in fincas with their families around Dec 28 - 31. I have been going to medellin for last 10 plus years and still have to book girls now in advance for those dates.
Medellin is sort of dead during new years all the girls want to spend time with families.
Regards,
John.
Is there such a thing down here? Thinking of going 28-31 of this month wondering if it would be worth it?
Black Page
12-06-15, 09:43
What I don't understand is taking a chick from a sport fucking venue for TLN. The last thing on my mind after watching a chick go upstairs with two guys in the last hour is, "Gee, I sure would like to have HER for the rest of the night. " Not saying that any other massage or facebook chick could not have done the same thing, but I didn't just watch them do it.I agree 100%.
TLN is pretending she's your GF. You meet her, have drinks, music, then keep calm and go to room to enjoy without hurry. Also wake up together.
Doing that after having waited a girl out of the door, while she was thoroughly fucked by 1 or 2 fellow mongers, then kiss her and say "let's go my dear" sounds weird to me (or it's for cuckold, but that's another story).
Ha ha, well some guys have the eww-gross factor of thinking these chicas have already had 2 or 3 dicks inside her within a 24-hour period or less. Maybe she even let them pop in her mouth. The DFK doesn't seem so appealing. At one level, it seems silly and hypocritical; but at another level, maybe those guys have a point.
But putting aside the eww-gross factor, I do think the chica's energy level and overall eagerness to have the session with you will be somewhat depleted by the third client of the day or evening.Sure, off course I understand that you do not want to be the third guy in line, waiting for two other guys to finish with her first. Even though you know you're not the only one that day you don't want to be confronted with it visually. It was more of a rhetorical question.
I have no experience in Colombia, but I do have brief experience with Colombianas and from that experience I know that, even if she has had 10 guys (literally) today, she will still be able to treat you right and perform 200%. Off course not all girls are the same, but two clients a day sounds like a luxury compared to what I have been working with during my last vacation. For this fact alone I can't wait to hit MDE.
If you go for DFK you are willingly taking a risk, same with DATY, funky business. But someones got to do it, hehe. Enjoy your weekend.
AveMariaPues
12-06-15, 15:08
Ave Mara Pues. Where is this located?I am surprised it's not on WT69's list. The address is Calle 58 No. 50 A-54. It's kind of hard to find. What you want to do--and this works on foot or in a cab--is go to Centro Comercial Villanueva. There you will see sort of a bridge, in a car you could go under or go above. You want to go above. It's the first street there (cross the street from CCV) practically on the corner. It just looks like a big house (it is an old mansion from the days when the Centro was the place to be for rich people) with a white metal gate. I think your best bet is to call ahead, especially if you are coming with friends. Then the mamasan will have a nice lineup for you. If you just drop in (for sure 10 PM or later, more like 11) there might only be two or three girls. If you bring a crew of guys, then she will have 8-12. Some great finds there but often the girls are here today, gone tomorrow. All the girls are under 25 (more like under 22), all of them are slim and all of them are 100% natural ( sure, but no fake tits or asses, no plastic surgery of any kind).
Sargent 50
12-06-15, 19:03
Bro unless you have 500 plus chicks on your Facebook you will have a hard time getting girls to show up during those dates. Half of the girls are already in fincas with their families around Dec 28 - 31. I have been going to medellin for last 10 plus years and still have to book girls now in advance for those dates.
Medellin is sort of dead during new years all the girls want to spend time with families.
Regards,
John.Thanks thinking you week leading into to Christmas but I plan to be gone before Christmas Eve if that will be any better.
ColombiaLover
12-06-15, 20:02
I can't speak as much for the casa girls, as I don't go as often as I used to. But my general perception is that Colombian chicas have great hygiene. Whenever I show with them after sex (or see them through the glass), they are always thoroughly washing the kitty. So I don't worry all that much about some guy coming before me. In fact, many of the chicas I got with shower both before and after sex.
Sure, off course I understand that you do not want to be the third guy in line, waiting for two other guys to finish with her first. Even though you know you're not the only one that day you don't want to be confronted with it visually. It was more of a rhetorical question.
I have no experience in Colombia, but I do have brief experience with Colombianas and from that experience I know that, even if she has had 10 guys (literally) today, she will still be able to treat you right and perform 200%. Off course not all girls are the same, but two clients a day sounds like a luxury compared to what I have been working with during my last vacation. For this fact alone I can't wait to hit MDE.
If you go for DFK you are willingly taking a risk, same with DATY, funky business. But someones got to do it, hehe. Enjoy your weekend.
ColombiaLover
12-06-15, 20:05
The key to finding chicas during this time is to hone in on two criteria: 1) Chicas without a true family (or a very poor family who cannot afford to go anywhere) or 2) chicas who are really hurting for money.
I already have a pretty good idea of which of my favorites will likely go be gone and which will still need money and make themselves available for a session. Never a 100% guarantee, but knowing their situation and their needs is always good way to increase the odds of getting what you want when you want it. Even during the holiday.
Bro unless you have 500 plus chicks on your Facebook you will have a hard time getting girls to show up during those dates. Half of the girls are already in fincas with their families around Dec 28 - 31. I have been going to medellin for last 10 plus years and still have to book girls now in advance for those dates.
Medellin is sort of dead during new years all the girls want to spend time with families.
Regards,
John.
I can't speak as much for the casa girls, as I don't go as often as I used to. But my general perception is that Colombian chicas have great hygiene. Whenever I show with them after sex (or see them through the glass), they are always thoroughly washing the kitty. So I don't worry all that much about some guy coming before me. In fact, many of the chicas I got with shower both before and after sex.I agree. The Colombian women with whom I had the pleasure to be with all had good hygiene, and they expected the same from me. I've seen some guys get a "no seor" due to questionable hygiene (like a friend of mine put it). I imagine most guys will select their ladies based on a set of criteria and preferences, good hygiene being mandatory.
DATY has been a basic part of the deal so far, with girls from CLO, BOG and MDE. DFK is a different story, especially with two Paisas I sessioned extensivley. One of them started allowing DFK from our third session. Before that it was just slight kissing, no tongue. This leads me to believe that you don't get DFK by default from Colombianas. Besides Colombian beauties I have some experience with Brazilian girls in Rio where, in my experience, you get DFK without asking.
I prefer my sessions to be personal, no rush and based on at least a small bit of chemistry. DFK helps me get into my zone so it would be good if it's not a complete taboo in MDE.
I agree 100 percent. I have no problem getting dates for my self for new years eve but if some one is new in Colombia and don't know many girls then I am sure he will have a hard time finding some one during those dates compared to other normal times.
Regards,
John.
The key to finding chicas during this time is to hone in on two criteria: 1) Chicas without a true family (or a very poor family who cannot afford to go anywhere) or 2) chicas who are really hurting for money.
I already have a pretty good idea of which of my favorites will likely go be gone and which will still need money and make themselves available for a session. Never a 100% guarantee, but knowing their situation and their needs is always good way to increase the odds of getting what you want when you want it. Even during the holiday.
So going to MDE in Jan to visit the novia. We were looking for a hotel with a jetted tub or a jacuzzi. The only one I found was the Charlee. Which is like $230/ night. Not too excited about paying those prices. Anyone know of a good hotel that offers that. In Poblado of course. Thanks again fellas.
So going to MDE in Jan to visit the novia. We were looking for a hotel with a jetted tub or a jacuzzi. The only one I found was the Charlee. Which is like $230/ night. Not too excited about paying those prices. Anyone know of a good hotel that offers that. In Poblado of course. Thanks again fellas.Yea, I def wouldn't pay Charlee prices, but to each his own. A friend stayed here and enjoyed it. If you look at the pics it says they have jetted tubs.
http://www.hotels.com/ho535582/loyds-hotel-medellin-colombia/?PSRC=G21&dateless=true&gclid=CIeRmZ_xyMkCFQovHwodM2UKJg&locale=en_US&pos=HCOM_US&rffrid=sem.hcom.US.google.003.08.02.s.kwrd%3DZzZz.shw72634907.0.83707653989.10202me18720.d.m
Yea, I def wouldn't pay Charlee prices, but to each his own. A friend stayed here and enjoyed it. If you look at the pics it says they have jetted tubs.
http://www.hotels.com/ho535582/loyds-hotel-medellin-colombia/?PSRC=G21&dateless=true&gclid=CIeRmZ_xyMkCFQovHwodM2UKJg&locale=en_US&pos=HCOM_US&rffrid=sem.hcom.US.google.003.08.02.s.kwrd%3DZzZz.shw72634907.0.83707653989.10202me18720.d.mThe Charlee is the hip new hotel in Poblado so it's overpriced and probably not chica friendly. This Loyds Hotel option looks pretty interesting, $50 a night for a jacuzzi and a large bed sounds like a good deal.
Of course, the better love motels offer large jacuzzi and all other sorts of amenities at very reasonable prices, so you may not even need to stay at a high-end place in Poblado.
SlamCity7777
12-07-15, 14:46
Yea, I def wouldn't pay Charlee prices, but to each his own. A friend stayed here and enjoyed it. If you look at the pics it says they have jetted tubs.
http://www.hotels.com/ho535582/loyds-hotel-medellin-colombia/?PSRC=G21&dateless=true&gclid=CIeRmZ_xyMkCFQovHwodM2UKJg&locale=en_US&pos=HCOM_US&rffrid=sem.hcom.US.google.003.08.02.s.kwrd%3DZzZz.shw72634907.0.83707653989.10202me18720.d.mThere might be some info in the hotel topic. Generally it's a good idea to keep hotel questions in that chain so it is easier to search and recall the info. Just a suggestion.
The Loyds Hotel. If you book it for two people are you good to go with your amigas? The usual foto copy ID sort of thing?
BlueChange
12-07-15, 16:24
Look into a hotel named Sites. It's in Poblado and I was lodged there from 28 October to 9 November of this year. I have a review of the hotel titled "Excelente (Excellent) for Medellin!" over on TripAdvisor. Sites is chica friendly and is a 7-minute walk to a nearby Exito supermarket, a 9-minute walk to the Poblado Metro station, a 10-minute walk to Parque Lleras, and a 12-minute walk to Oviedo Mall.Yeah up and down a fucking hill!!
The Tall Man
12-07-15, 17:52
then back to my place. Sleep like a vampire all day. Now that I'm in my 40's, I can't really play like that anymore, LOL.Funny I said and thought that when I was in my 30's about my 20's, then 10 years later I say that I wish I had the stamina that I did in my 30's, then 10 years later I said that I wish I had the stamina that I did when I was in my 40's, now 10 years later say I wish I had the stamina that I did in my early 50's, on and on.
The Tall Man.
Quagmire1974
12-07-15, 17:53
Yeah up and down a fucking hill!!Yes, to and from Parque Lleras and Oviedo Mall. But the path to and from Exito and the Poblado Metro station is nearly flat.
BlueChange
12-08-15, 16:30
Yes, to and from Parque Lleras and Oviedo Mall. But the path to and from Exito and the Poblado Metro station is nearly flat.That's true but I stopped walking that ever since these crazy fucking dogs showed up out of no where. Twice! I swear colombians and their love of dogs which they don't take care of is outstanding. EVERYONE owns a fucking dog.
AveMariaPues
12-08-15, 18:36
The Charlee is the hip new hotel in Poblado so it's overpriced and probably not chica friendly. This Loyds Hotel option looks pretty interesting, $50 a night for a jacuzzi and a large bed sounds like a good deal.
Of course, the better love motels offer large jacuzzi and all other sorts of amenities at very reasonable prices, so you may not even need to stay at a high-end place in Poblado.The Charlee I see between 125 and 250 depending on demand. It is a big hotel and there is a sushi place on the top floor that is open some weird schedule (Wednesday, Friday, Saturday I think). You could sneak a girl in there pretty easily but you would have to sneak her.
Quagmire1974
12-08-15, 19:28
That's true but I stopped walking that ever since these crazy fucking dogs showed up out of no where. Twice! I swear colombians and their love of dogs which they don't take care of is outstanding. EVERYONE owns a fucking dog.LOL. There was probably a heat and you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I've seen packs of dogs in many countries throughout my travels, the worst being in the Corn Islands of Nicaragua. Stray dogs so thin it looked like a bunch of four-legged skeletons roaming around and puppies so hungry they were eating dry leaves. Travel, unfortunately, isn't always pretty.
That's true but I stopped walking that ever since these crazy fucking dogs showed up out of no where. Twice! I swear colombians and their love of dogs which they don't take care of is outstanding. EVERYONE owns a fucking dog.I've been walking this route for the past couple of days; no dogs in sight. Maybe the problem got somehow resolved. It's nice neighborhood stroll; peaceful and fairly flat.
Member #4394
12-09-15, 01:09
Some good aspects as well. I am glad that I do not have the strong desire I used to have in 20's any more. That keeps me out of troubles, and women cannot control me much.
Funny I said and thought that when I was in my 30's about my 20's, then 10 years later I say that I wish I had the stamina that I did in my 30's, then 10 years later I said that I wish I had the stamina that I did when I was in my 40's, now 10 years later say I wish I had the stamina that I did in my early 50's, on and on.
The Tall Man..
Charm City Dave
12-09-15, 04:56
Some good aspects as well. I am glad that I do not have the strong desire I used to have in 20's any more. That keeps me out of troubles, and women cannot control me much. .Yea, I agree with that. I used to be putty in their hands. Now I got to ration my ammunition over the course of a trip and I'm much more in control.
Colombia Jake
12-09-15, 14:26
I agree 100 percent. I have no problem getting dates for my self for new years eve but if some one is new in Colombia and don't know many girls then I am sure he will have a hard time finding some one during those dates compared to other normal times.
Regards,
John.I'll be here to help anyone who wants a Girlfriend during those times when its hard to find a date like Christmas eve and New Years. Another fun night at Pub Rock with a client.
Colombia Jake.
Hey Jdit!
How are you enjoying Medellin so far? Is everything better, worse, or about what you expected from my review of sites?Howdy Q!
Having a ball! I haven't had a guest over yet, but Sites Hotel is very nice; gracious staff, good bed in a nice room with kitchenette and killer view, rooftop pool and a good breakfast. Thanks for the recommendation!
Just to report, I've only been to New Life, Energy and Fase Dos so far. Sophia at New Life was great (had to go back to see her already) as was Fernanda at Fase Dos. I haven't found much luck at the other casas, yet Energy has changed a bit since my last visit. The one hour price is now 140 K. And there seems to be quite an upsell vibe, but that may be from my choice of Susanna, she's (probably 19 or 20), a beauty, lots of fun. But the upsell didn't impress me. Just had a nice regular session. I may go back. I had a water and she ordered up a couple of bottles of some mixer drink. That added 20 K to the bill, so this was part of the up charge vibe. It's all good no harm and no foul; just not the Energy I enjoyed before. Still, Energy had a nice lineup.
HornyDude353
12-09-15, 16:01
Hi,
This has been my first time to South America so was not sure what to expect from anything, I'm more of a Asia / Europe guy as it's quite comfortable and cheap there. I've been very pleasantly surprised here, as the girls are absolutely stunning, it's really cheap and it's a lot safer than I would have thought (I thought I would just get mugged constantly LOL) I've not felt in danger so far. Only been here for about a week and only managed to go out twice as I'm with family and both nights I went to Face dos. First was on a Friday the place was packed, so many nice girls in the club, something for every taste. Got charged 20 for entry and for the girls it was 180 k for an hour I think plus another 10 for a room on the side.
First girl I met was Pauletta, I've pretty much got no Spanish so couldn't really talk much but she was about 27 nice big fake tits and a great ass, very pretty and great body. It was just a cum once service, pretty basic, ow, cowgirl and reverse cowgirl and doggy. All quite good for the price.
2nd girl was Annabella about 26 great body a mice round ass pretty and good tits. Managed to get photos and a video for only 40 k extra. She provided a much better service, lots of kissing, ow cowgirl, missionary and doggy and had great eye contact throughout, would definitely see her again.
I tried to go again last night but selection was not so good, only a couple of decent ones who were taken. Also one thing o found weird in this club is the girls kind of stick together, they don't come up as often as they would in vive madrid or beach club in Malaysia, you have to go to talk to them otherwise it will be wasted.
Anyway thanks for the help on this forum, hopefully will go out tonight and get some more.
I'll be here to help anyone who wants a Girlfriend during those times when its hard to find a date like Christmas eve and New Years. Another fun night at Pub Rock with a client.
Colombia Jake.So does your help in setting up a girlfriend during those times require that they stay at your place?
And if not, do the girls pay you part of the money they get paid for you hooking them up?
Member #4394
12-09-15, 21:13
But they have their own social codes and customs. Outsiders disrespectful of their customs may look extremely ugly and provocative at best. Taking putas out to the place where middle class families spend leisure time is not acceptable. Is it no problem in the US?
Just imagine foreigners farting and spiting in restaurants in the USA And they say it is none of your concern.
Or just imagine Chinese or Saudi Arabians coming with hookers to the restaurant when you are eating dinner with your wife and children.
That is a highly judgmental statement, on your friends part I mean.
So what if they can tell? I do it all the time and have a great time doing it. I do it because I enjoy going out, dancing, eating out and hanging out. Like all finer things in life, you have to put some thought into it and manage it. The girl and you have to dress elegantly, behave appropriately and pick the right place to go. For guys that like to take working girls out, they are saying that for them it is not just about sex. The girls I take out, you will never be able to tell they are working. However, you may be able to tell by looking at me that I must be paying her to be with me. My problem. Not hers. Ha ha.
The way I see it, and as long as she is willing and does not feel uncomfortable being seen with an older man, I don't care what the rest of the world thinks.
To quote a friend of mine who said the reason he does not take working girls out is because he calculates that for the amount of money I spend on a night out, he could have sex with her twice. A lot of guys think that way. I respect their decision. Their money and their choice.
Live and let live..
MedellinGringo
12-10-15, 01:22
But they have their own social codes and customs. Outsiders disrespectful of their customs may look extremely ugly and provocative at best. Taking putas out to the place where middle class families spend leisure time is not acceptable. Is it no problem in the US?
Just imagine foreigners fartIng and spiting in restaurants in the USA And they say it is none of your concern.
Or just imagine chinese or saudi arabians coming with hookers to the restaurant when you are eating dinner with your wife and children..Matt.
Really depends on the guy and the girl.
Any girl that I take out looks, dresses and acts appropriately.
Hell most I have known so long and spent so much time with that I'd challenge anyone who claims she was anything other than a wife or girlfriend.
Quagmire1974
12-10-15, 03:10
Howdy Q!
Having a ball! I haven't had a guest over yet, but Sites Hotel is very nice; gracious staff, good bed in a nice room with kitchenette and killer view, rooftop pool and a good breakfast. Thanks for the recommendation!
Just to report, I've only been to New Life, Energy and Fase Dos so far. Sophia at New Life was great (had to go back to see her already) as was Fernanda at Fase Dos. I haven't found much luck at the other casas, yet Energy has changed a bit since my last visit. The one hour price is now 140 K. And there seems to be quite an upsell vibe, but that may be from my choice of Susanna, she's (probably 19 or 20), a beauty, lots of fun. But the upsell didn't impress me. Just had a nice regular session. I may go back. I had a water and she ordered up a couple of bottles of some mixer drink. That added 20 K to the bill, so this was part of the up charge vibe. It's all good no harm and no foul; just not the Energy I enjoyed before. Still, Energy had a nice lineup.You are welcome! Glad to hear that you are enjoying Sites Hotel so far. Tell receptionist Julian that I said Hello,. He might remember me if you tell him I'm the tall American who offered to meet up with him at Barra Ejecutiva one night to chase girls this past November, LOL. Have you tried Cambalache Parrilla Argentina yet? It's a 1-minute walk from Sites and the food is excellent. Also try Ocio, La Cantine, Tal Cual, and La Provincia. You will need a taxi to reach those restaurants and the food at each one is excellent. Don't worry about making reservations, just show up around 6 pm or 7 pm. Don't forget you've got the Exito supermarket right down the street from Sites Hotel and also a Pasteur pharmacy a 1-minute walk from Exito. I don't recognize any of the chicas you've met so far. I did enjoy a gal named Sofia at Barra Ejecutiva and Cony at Fase Dos. Both were my style: early 20's, petite, bubble butts, natural tits, and smiling / friendly. And you've got one up on me, as I didn't visit Energy while in Medellin. That will have to be on the next trip to MDE. Keep having fun and hook us all up with another report if / when you can.
Member #4394
12-10-15, 05:06
Matt.
Really depends on the guy and the girl.
Any girl that I take out looks, dresses and acts appropriately..Well, that begs the question-- There is this problem because most gringos think that their paid-girlfriends don't look like pros while they look so to the locals to begin with. Plus, Vitrea says that he doesn't care what others think, to which I responded. Thank you for the comment though. Also I highly value Vitrea's posts all the time.
Colombia Jake
12-10-15, 08:58
So does your help in setting up a girlfriend during those times require that they stay at your place?
And if not, do the girls pay you part of the money they get paid for you hooking them up?The Hot Girlfriend Experience Dates are only for the guys who rent a suite, if you are staying somewhere else rent another suite here between (10 am to 5 pm) and your girlfriend experience date will arrive whichever place you want between 7 and 8 pm! Two nights, and two Girlfriend Experiences minimum. The services you render with your date are very reasonable, but extra between you and her $50 to $90 dollars give or take depending on the time usually from 1 to 5 hours.
DarkWing21
12-10-15, 22:44
Hey all,
I just got back from a 3 day visit to Medellin. Thanks to those who gave me some insight for my trip last week! On to business, I stayed at Art Hotel. Very good, recommended. Top location and very clean and nice. If you want to avoid noise of the nightlife music, just request a room anywhere but in the front of the hotel.
The exchange rate was terrific this week. I booked one girl from bellezaspaisas, and it was awesome GFE experience. We went to dinner, out to a club, she spend the night with me and even took me to Guape for a day trip. She was sensational and beautiful and spoke good English. Kept her for 24 hours as we agreed upon and let me say again, it was the truest form of GFE. If you shop around a bit and text and chat with some different girls, there are definitely some gold mines out there.
The second night I went to Fase 2. There has been tons of feedback on that place in this forum so I'll just confirm what everyone says, great girls selection, you'll have no problem finding something you want.
The final night, I booked a girl from angelesinfieles (Luisa) for a 90 min session to my room. This woman that came to party with was probably the most amazing woman I have ever seen, let alone party with! Wow! She was definitely more costly then the rest 350 COP, but worth every bit of it. The hotel was "kinda chica friendly", as they charge half of what ever other major hotel I called would charge. Dining and nightlife was terrific but that's a different story.
This is my first feedback post so I hope I gave you all some good info. If I can answer any questions, don't hesitate.
Darkwing
MedellinGringo
12-11-15, 01:00
Well, that begs the question-- There is this problem because most gringos think that their paid-girlfriends don't look like pros while they look so to the locals to begin with. Plus, Vitrea says that he doesn't care what others think, to which I responded. Thank you for the comment though. Also I highly value Vitrea's posts all the time.Personally I don't think that the problem is with the girls so much as that some gringos just look like mongers. Old, fat, bald and not exactly what I would call well dressed a lot of the time.
The girls normally blend in very well. Unless you are dealing with centro chicas that buy cheap clothes. Then yes the upper middle class and higher Colombianos can spot the cheap clothes from el centro a mile away and they will know she is poor which is basically the same or worst as being a prepago in their minds.
Thanks for all the advice here. This is a quick business trip only 2 nights. Then back to panama.
Got in from the airport, decided to stay close to a supplier of mine in the Prodo area. Bonus it is close to the casa's.
Checked in. Jumped in a cab and went right over to New Life. There was a line up of 15 or so girls. I thought two or three were good for me. The first on my list was Jessica, but the guy who walked in before me got first crack and snatched her up. But I had a great session with Melanie (I think that was her name). Nice body, natural tits, great eye contact and boy can she move. I did not ask or get BBBJ, DATY, or DFK. But the price is great and I had fun.
The place was nice for a casa. I really enjoyed the mirrors. Much better then the fish market in panama. If anyone wants to hit up a few casas tomorrow with me send me a PM.
I took a photo of the new prices if anyone is interested.
Nino Bravo
12-11-15, 05:14
Personally I don't think that the problem is with the girls so much as that some gringos just look like mongers. Old, fat, bald and not exactly what I would call well dressed a lot of the time.
The girls normally blend in very well. Unless you are dealing with centro chicas that buy cheap clothes. Then yes the upper middle class and higher Colombianos can spot the cheap clothes from el centro a mile away and they will know she is poor which is basically the same or worst as being a prepago in their minds.Hey MG,
I heard from a friend that you were considering a face lift. Be careful my friend, you don't want to end up looking like Kenny Rogers. Hit me up sometime! Merry Christmas!
James Dandy
12-11-15, 13:39
Personally I don't think that the problem is with the girls so much as that some gringos just look like mongers. Old, fat, bald and not exactly what I would call well dressed a lot of the time.
The girls normally blend in very well. Unless you are dealing with centro chicas that buy cheap clothes. Then yes the upper middle class and higher Colombianos can spot the cheap clothes from el centro a mile away and they will know she is poor which is basically the same or worst as being a prepago in their minds.Believe what you want, but until she takes you home to meet her parents or to their favorite family restaurants where everybody knows her, she is painfully aware that it's obvious to everybody you are a john and she is a puta. Medellin is smaller and much more close knit than most people realize unless they live here for an extended period of time. Good clothes have nothing to do with it, just means she costs you more when you're paying for sex. I see hot girls in the mall all the time with their boyfriends wearing cheap Centro jeans and nobody thinks they are a puta.
The locals know more than you think, it's their culture and their city and it works this way because they set it up this way. Almost any middle aged or older gringo with a hot younger lady is already suspected of being in paid relationship, and it's 100% true when the gringo doesn't know any Spanish. Do you really think people can't figure out how this older man found his way to Medellin and into this girl's company without knowing how to communicate?
It's so obvious most can tell a monger even when he's NOT with a girl. It's best just to have fun while acknowledging it for what it is, p4p. It's not some secret only you and her have. I'm not clear what you mean by "upper middle class or higher" when referring to putas, but I think you might be getting the wrong impression here as well. The upper class, even most of the middle class would have absolutely nothing to do with prostitution so maybe its just the nice clothes that have you convinced. There are exceptions of course, but it's definitely not common that girls with any other opportunity in their lives turn to hooking in such a conservative society.
James Dandy
12-11-15, 13:45
I'll be here to help anyone who wants a Girlfriend during those times when its hard to find a date like Christmas eve and New Years. I swear if life ever gets so bad I need to call Colombia Jake for a hooker on Christmas or New Years, I'll just shoot myself first!
Despite the existence of the multiple centro massage parlirs, strip clubs, swing clubs, the Mansion and SW's / Medellin and Colombia in general is a very conservative Catholic society.
In my mind, this accounts for the girls not being "forward" in approaching men in social settings and the near absence of women who LOVE sex or are into anal- unlike Brazil for example.
My 2 cents.
Believe what you want, but until she takes you home to meet her parents or to their favorite family restaurants where everybody knows her, she is painfully aware that it's obvious to everybody you are a john and she is a puta. Medellin is smaller and much more close knit than most people realize unless they live here for an extended period of time. Good clothes have nothing to do with it, just means she costs you more when you're paying for sex. I see hot girls in the mall all the time with their boyfriends wearing cheap Centro jeans and nobody thinks they are a puta.
The locals know more than you think, it's their culture and their city and it works this way because they set it up this way. Almost any middle aged or older gringo with a hot younger lady is already suspected of being in paid relationship, and it's 100% true when the gringo doesn't know any Spanish. Do you really think people can't figure out how this older man found his way to Medellin and into this girl's company without knowing how to communicate?
It's so obvious most can tell a monger even when he's NOT with a girl. It's best just to have fun while acknowledging it for what it is, p4p. It's not some secret only you and her have. I'm not clear what you mean by "upper middle class or higher" when referring to putas, but I think you might be getting the wrong impression here as well. The upper class, even most of the middle class would have absolutely nothing to do with prostitution so maybe its just the nice clothes that have you convinced. There are exceptions of course, but it's definitely not common that girls with any other opportunity in their lives turn to hooking in such a conservative society.
MedellinGringo
12-11-15, 18:43
Believe what you want, but until she takes you home to meet her parents or to their favorite family restaurants where everybody knows her, she is painfully aware that it's obvious to everybody you are a john and she is a puta. Medellin is smaller and much more close knit than most people realize unless they live here for an extended period of time. Good clothes have nothing to do with it, just means she costs you more when you're paying for sex. I see hot girls in the mall all the time with their boyfriends wearing cheap Centro jeans and nobody thinks they are a puta.
The locals know more than you think, it's their culture and their city and it works this way because they set it up this way. Almost any middle aged or older gringo with a hot younger lady is already suspected of being in paid relationship, and it's 100% true when the gringo doesn't know any Spanish. Do you really think people can't figure out how this older man found his way to Medellin and into this girl's company without knowing how to communicate?
It's so obvious most can tell a monger even when he's NOT with a girl. It's best just to have fun while acknowledging it for what it is, p4p. It's not some secret only you and her have. I'm not clear what you mean by "upper middle class or higher" when referring to putas, but I think you might be getting the wrong impression here as well. The upper class, even most of the middle class would have absolutely nothing to do with prostitution so maybe its just the nice clothes that have you convinced. There are exceptions of course, but it's definitely not common that girls with any other opportunity in their lives turn to hooking in such a conservative society.I have been invited to family birthday parties and other events with the prepagos that I spend most of my time with. But that's another subject.
Seems to me that we are mostly in agreement that it is the presence of the gringos most of the time that make the women look like putas and not the women themselves if they dress accordingly.
To elaborate on the point I was making about the cheap clothes. I don't think many upper class Colombianos think much less of prepagos than poor people in general. As you pointed out ". It's definitely not common that girls with any other opportunity in their lives turn to ho".
So it is pretty obvious why upper class Colombianos think almost all poor chicas are prepagos. Especially if they are with an old fat gringo.
Member #4393
12-11-15, 20:42
Personally I don't think that the problem is with the girls so much as that some gringos just look like mongers. Old, fat, bald and not exactly what I would call well dressed a lot of the time.
The girls normally blend in very well. Unless you are dealing with centro chicas that buy cheap clothes. Then yes the upper middle class and higher Colombianos can spot the cheap clothes from el centro a mile away and they will know she is poor which is basically the same or worst as being a prepago in their minds.If you are concerned about "looking like a monger" or worried about whether people think you are with a hooker when you are eating out or perusing the mall. Pssss. They know. If this bothers you, check out of the Mansion / Jake frat house / Park Lleras apartment and stop banging 18-25 year old girls from Bello. Find someone about your age, learn Spanish and drop your dirt bag monger friends and make some nice friends from the tennis club up the hill. Hell, stay in Minnesota and bang 50 year old farmer women with yeast infections.
Or face the consequences, understand that everyone knows why that 22 year old hot girl is with you (except probably you) and enjoy yourself.
Member #4393
12-11-15, 20:53
It seems like you are leaning towards the Mansion or ColombianJake. I would say don't break your head. Keep it simple. The hot Colombian girls are everywhere. Since you only have 3 days, make a decision to staying with either one and enjoy those three days to the fullest. You won't go wrong by going to the Mansion or Colombianjake. The problem you have is one of limited time and too many P4P options in Medellin. Just keep it simple and make your reservation. At the mansion or Colombianjake, you will get your Colombian curves, will get the chance to explore other places, casas, night clubs, etc, and will get the guidance that you need so they are both good points to start for a newbie in Medellin.This may be true, but the problem is in lumping the two in as if they are the same. They are not. See post after post for the differences between the two places. Hint: one changes your sheets, has clean pillows, mops the floor, serves breakfast, has a reception and manager on premises, and has a bar and girls onsite. The other doesn't. One is a licensed hotel, and the other is a private apartment having "guests" over to visit him.
Both will get you laid, and since that is all the average horny guy back in the states reading this forum cares about, I guess after all they are the same.
Nevermind and carry on.
Colombia Jake
12-11-15, 21:16
I swear if life ever gets so bad I need to call Colombia Jake for a hooker on Christmas or New Years, I'll just shoot myself first!For some guy like James Dandy who has obviously been here and knows where to find hookers for an hour I'm not for you, but my clients are here for the first or second time and don't know where to go. Its not easy to get a girl to hang out with you for 4 or 5 hours if your not working with someone like me, who's makes sure the girl knows what her responsibility is and is a friend of mine! Bottom of the barrel Mongers like James Dandy are alone every night and especially holidays trust me! He thinks he's a stud because he knows he can find someone to pay for 30 minutes in a casa. Shooting yourself is a good option for these out of gas types like James Dandy!
Spend an evening with this sweetie!
Colombia Jake
Mr Enternational
12-12-15, 01:58
In my mind, this accounts for the girls not being "forward" in approaching men in social settings and the near absence of women who LOVE sex or are into anal- unlike Brazil for example.Seriously man. What country is this where all the women are forward and approach men in social settings? Because I have lived in USA, France, Brazil, and Thailand and have been to over 100 countries and have yet to see it. Now if you are talking from a P4 P standpoint then yes in Brazil and Dominican Republic hookers will approach you agressively in hooker dens while the ones in Colombia and Peru will be stanoffish and wait for you to choose them.
And I know many normal Colombian women who love sex and are into anal. Either you do not know any normal Colombianas or you are taking what you have experienced in the P4 P scene as real life.
On the other subject that is going around, it makes me think of the Pablo Escobar series that is on Netflix. Those guys loved hookers. Once they had a big party where they ordered up hookers from near and far. Importing chicks from Bogota and other places to Medellin. And they had a great time with the girls, BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. Once the party was over they went their separate ways. And it is the same with the locals in all countries.
I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?
Mr Enternational
12-12-15, 02:04
Spend an evening with this sweetie!It is a good thing that the sweetie wore a shirt letting us know it was a girl, because it kinda looks like a boy. Do your thing though CJ. I will never knock another man's hustle.
I'd hit that.
For some guy like James Dandy who has obviously been here and knows where to find hookers for an hour I'm not for you, but my clients are here for the first or second time and don't know where to go. Its not easy to get a girl to hang out with you for 4 or 5 hours if your not working with someone like me, who's makes sure the girl knows what her responsibility is and is a friend of mine! Bottom of the barrel Mongers like James Dandy are alone every night and especially holidays trust me! He thinks he's a stud because he knows he can find someone to pay for 30 minutes in a casa. Shooting yourself is a good option for these out of gas types like James Dandy!
Spend an evening with this sweetie!
Colombia Jake
Member #4394
12-12-15, 02:20
Familiar with Abraham Maslow's "Hierarchy of needs"?
According to his theory, sexual desire, hunger, etc are just basic, lowest desires of human being.
After these desires are fulfilled, the humans want love, ie. Loving somebody and being loved.
I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?.
...Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? I do this once in a while because it is fun. A working girl can also be a nice girl, with whom one can have a good time, eating, dancing, etc. I did that just recently in Pattaya, where I picked a chick from Airline. She was a sweet girl, spoke very little English, yet I had a great time with her outside the club. And, I have done that many times before, in many different places.
I am not sure what kind of working girls you are meeting, but I can assure you that I met many nice ones over time, well worth spending time with. I even did that in the US where I live. And, of course I do that in Medellin once in a while as well.
MedellinGringo
12-12-15, 03:44
If you are concerned about "looking like a monger" or worried about whether people think you are with a hooker when you are eating out or perusing the mall. Pssss. They know. If this bothers you, check out of the Mansion / Jake frat house / Park Lleras apartment and stop banging 18-25 year old girls from Bello. Find someone about your age, learn Spanish and drop your dirt bag monger friends and make some nice friends from the tennis club up the hill. Hell, stay in Minnesota and bang 50 year old farmer women with yeast infections.
Or face the consequences, understand that everyone knows why that 22 year old hot girl is with you (except probably you) and enjoy yourself.Hmmmm. Sounds like you haven't seen many gringos that didn't look like a monger.
But I get the point you are trying to make. Does seem like there are a few gringos on the board that think people can tell if their date is a prepago just by looking at the girl when the truth is they are looking at the gringo and the chick is just guilty by association.
So for the guys that think it is the girl and not you. Here is a little test you can perform. If your girl won't kiss you in public. You definitely look like a monger. And if she won't let you meet her family and friends she just doesn't like you or know you well enough. Pretty simple actually.
Nino Bravo
12-12-15, 04:02
Believe what you want, but until she takes you home to meet her parents or to their favorite family restaurants where everybody knows her, she is painfully aware that it's obvious to everybody you are a john and she is a puta. Medellin is smaller and much more close knit than most people realize unless they live here for an extended period of time. Good clothes have nothing to do with it, just means she costs you more when you're paying for sex. I see hot girls in the mall all the time with their boyfriends wearing cheap Centro jeans and nobody thinks they are a puta.
The locals know more than you think, it's their culture and their city and it works this way because they set it up this way. Almost any middle aged or older gringo with a hot younger lady is already suspected of being in paid relationship, and it's 100% true when the gringo doesn't know any Spanish. Do you really think people can't figure out how this older man found his way to Medellin and into this girl's company without knowing how to communicate?.I wouldn't take MedellinGringo's posts too seriously. I've known the guy for 20 years and he is harmless. He has always thought he was better than any other gringo when traveling to Colombia and running with the prepagos (except for a select few). He is a good guy, but something recently must have brought him down a peg or two when out on the town with his 20 old barrio girls. He told me the other day he spent 13 grand on some extensive plastic surgery. Its hard to fight father time and even the smoothest and most handsome, well dressed johns in Colombia will start getting looks from the locals sooner or later. Most will pay the looks no mind. Guys like MG take it personally and spend many sleepless nights fretting about it, then take drastic measures by going under the knife. My question is, do the barrio prepagos think he is more attractive? I doubt it. They would find him more attractive if he gave them the 13 grand.
MedellinGringo
12-12-15, 04:03
I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?First of all. I don't see anything about most of the prepagos that I know that would indicate they are a prepago. If you are going out and people think she is a prepago it is because you most likely look like a john. And if that is the case and it bothers you or her. You should probably spend your time in the privacy of your apartment. But it is still nice to get to know someone and enjoy someone's company outside the bedroom. Personally I think it makes the intimacy a lot better if you have some chemistry beforehand.
And lastly it doesn't cost anymore to take your prepago out other than the extra cost of drinks, dinner or movie tickets. I'm pretty sure an American hooker would be charging by the hour the whole time.
Mr Enternational
12-12-15, 04:12
I do this once in a while because it is fun. A working girl can also be a nice girl, with whom one can have a good time, eating, dancing, etc. I did that just recently in Pattaya,
I am not sure what kind of working girls you are meeting, but I can assure you that I met many nice ones over time, well worth spending time with. I even did that in the US where I live. And, of course I do that in Medellin once in a while as well.Well I live in Pattaya so I guess I am meeting the same kind of working girls that you are. I guess that for me, when I have been to a place a couple of times I tend to develop friendships and relationships with women who are not P4 P so I have no desire to do normal things with hookers. My first times in Brazil and Thailand yes we let the working girls show us around the cities, but after that I was on to women that I did not have to pay to move up with in my heirarchy of needs.
I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?Good point. Speaking for myself: I have only been mongering for 1 year now, and the girls I choose to hit get a fair treatment. I really treat them with the same respect and courtesy as I do with normal girls back home. Off course a lot of these working girls are in some sort of trouble and probably have a lot on their mind so I try to make the 'transaction' as smooth as possible, for the both of us. In my experience it often works in your favor if she picks up your good intentions. Depending on the level of chemistry, going to the beach, dinner, movies or club is all part of the game as far as I'm concerned, just like with normal girls. You could see it as an investment with short term high return. There's also the fact that I like to see her have a good time, as good as possible in these circumstances. There has to be give and take on both sides, nothing wrong with adding a little extra on top of regular payment.
I have no intention of overpaying the girls I pick, but in my experience this approach of treating them like normal girls helps me get the most out of my $$ when on vacation looking for pussy. As for why we don't do the same back home: I really don't see the need to monger back home as there are thousands of girls here who you know how to approach, you're in your hometown, speak the language and you know the game inside out. Mongering is for when I'm in unknown territory and picking up girls is not as easy because of language etc.
Furthermore I firmly agree with this statement:
Do your thing though CJ. I will never knock another man's hustle.
James Dandy
12-12-15, 14:37
For some guy like James Dandy who has obviously been here and knows where to find hookers for an hour I'm not for you, but my clients are here for the first or second time and don't know where to go. Its not easy to get a girl to hang out with you for 4 or 5 hours if your not working with someone like me, who's makes sure the girl knows what her responsibility is and is a friend of mine! Bottom of the barrel Mongers like James Dandy are alone every night and especially holidays trust me! He thinks he's a stud because he knows he can find someone to pay for 30 minutes in a casa. Shooting yourself is a good option for these out of gas types like James Dandy!
Spend an evening with this sweetie!
Colombia JakeI was referring to having to get a hooker on Christmas, and then calling her a girlfriend. It would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic. I didn't mention pricing, but since you brought it up.
As for the rest of your comment, I paid 120 K for 6 hour session yesterday (actually two separate 3 hour sessions with same girl, with dinner in the middle which cost 33 K), and that included anal. So I would add that your pricing is ridiculous, and I wish you'd quit openly taking advantage of guys here by suggesting they are getting a "girlfriend experience" as you set them up to walk around park Lleras with a hooker. Just be upfront and quit humping it so hard. If somebody needs your introduction to hookers then they will use your "hotel suites", but it isn't going to be any different than any other hooker "date" and it certainly isn't a girlfriend if they have to pay 300 K for a few hours to walk her around Lleras, so call it for what it is.
And I stand by my comment that nothing is more desperate than being so alone, with no girlfriend or family, on Christmas than paying Jake to call a hooker to pretend she is a girlfriend. In addition, there are not many hookers that have no place to be on Christmas (less talent available), making it one degree worse! It's not like the Christmas question and what's available hasn't been addressed a million times in the thread. Suggesting you are the only one that can get a hooker to eat a meal with a client is a joke. Even a noobie knows hookers LOVE eating at restaurants as long as they are still on the clock since it's less work for them, but that doesn't make her a girlfriend or the dinner a "date".
If you don't like it Jake, don't read it. We read your BS and advertising all the time, so I'll post my opinion when it's appropriate. Take your last jab and be done with it. It's clear you like any kind of publicity at all so I won't play into it and keep boosting your post to the top of the thread, but suffice to say any guy that spends 300K on a hooker in MDE can surely get her to go to dinner in that price as well, maybe he can even get a picture of them holding hands to brag to his friends back home!!
ForceSteeler
12-12-15, 15:34
I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?There nothing wrong with taking a hooker and wine and dine her. Its your money you can do what you want. Just remember at the end of the day she is a hooker and don't every try to turn a hooker into a house wife.
Also why do you guys care if the locals think your with a hooker?. Who cares what they think, I swear people spend to much time worrying about what people think. As a man I don't give a fuck. The one who should be walking in shame is the hooker.
There more social stigma and shame for the women at the end of the day. People will more look down on a women for being a hooker, then a guy that bangs hookers.
Member #4394
12-12-15, 16:03
Interesting. I have noticed that some gringos with mental or psychological problems tend to come to South American cities, including Medellin.
I wouldn't take MedellinGringo's posts too seriously. I've known the guy for 20 years and he is harmless. He has always thought he was better than any other gringo when traveling to Colombia and running with the prepagos (except for a select few). He is a good guy, but something recently must have brought him down a peg or two when out on the town with his 20 old barrio girls. He told me the other day he spent 13 grand on some extensive plastic surgery. Its hard to fight father time and even the smoothest and most handsome, well dressed johns in Colombia will start getting looks from the locals sooner or later. Most will pay the looks no mind. Guys like MG take it personally and spend many sleepless nights fretting about it, then take drastic measures by going under the knife. My question is, do the barrio prepagos think he is more attractive? I doubt it. They would find him more attractive if he gave them the 13 grand.
Soldierb11
12-12-15, 16:13
I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?I am guilty as charged on that account before. I think as someone astutely mentioned Maslow's hierarchy that may have something to do with it. My preferences for LT vs ST change back and forth. I used to be all about the LT and stay several days with a girl and it was great, now more often I go for ST so I can sleep earlier and hit the gym but after that for awhile I will need a LT again to satisfy that urge.
C Jack Sparrow
12-12-15, 16:33
I wouldn't take MedellinGringo's posts too seriously. I've known the guy for 20 years and he is harmless. He has always thought he was better than any other gringo when traveling to Colombia and running with the prepagos (except for a select few). He is a good guy, but something recently must have brought him down a peg or two when out on the town with his 20 old barrio girls. He told me the other day he spent 13 grand on some extensive plastic surgery. Its hard to fight father time and even the smoothest and most handsome, well dressed johns in Colombia will start getting looks from the locals sooner or later. Most will pay the looks no mind. Guys like MG take it personally and spend many sleepless nights fretting about it, then take drastic measures by going under the knife. My question is, do the barrio prepagos think he is more attractive? I doubt it. They would find him more attractive if he gave them the 13 grand.They are exotic to us, and we for them.
We are blond, +10 cm taller, blue eyes, comes from a continent like they imagine is some sort of Paradise.
Many mestizos, indians, black colombianas NEVER get the chance to rise in "socio-economic status".
Extranjeros gives the opportunity, they get the chance to leave a hopeless situation.
Barrio girls with examinas from SENA, SENSA etc. Will never get a good jobb as economists, law, etc.
There are 2-5% rich in Colombia, and they take a degree in a high class University abroad.
20% studies at EAFIT, UPB, Nacional.
50% get a mediocre examina or drop out and 25% never even start.
This change, but it is a slow process.
I have had girlfriends and prepagos since 2009. I have been out with girls on restaurants, events etc. Never noticed anything about that I was a client and she a prepago.
Colombians respect persons private spere! Which americans certainly don't do, as many Europeans.
They simply have in their culture; they don't bother others, and doesn't have to be worried about others bothering them.
That's what I love about there culture!
Medellin has 500 k females 18-35 and, only the the top 20% are 100.000 girls!
This is not Pattaya och Angeleses City or Sosua.
I spend DAYS in Laureles without seeing a gringo, and if I do, it's usually some backpackers.
Areas as Parque Lleras, San Diego etc, exists in every city, world around. But's a fraction of the total escort, P4 P, etc. That gringos are involved in.
Enjoy Medellin and Colombia.
Of course they think we are guapos; 6 feet /+180 com, bodyshape and structure are tall-thin!
Colombianas like that, they love it.
But are expected to marry a boring guy from a well-known and established family, to keep status quo; and do their part; helping with all domestic-never-ending-work.
That's the reason. They flee their duties!
PREPAGOS. Hmmm. All girls that are pretty or normal pretty has sexual services to get advantages since they are very young.
Colombia is like that. Girls are horney and having sex for money doesn't bother the majority of them.
Being alone on Holidays is a sad problems, but the other 98% of the days.
Mr Enternational
12-12-15, 17:46
They are exotic to us, and we for them.
We are blond, +10 cm taller, blue eyes, comes from a continent like they imagine is some sort of Paradise.
Who is this WE that we are talking about?
Nino Bravo
12-12-15, 17:53
Interesting. I have noticed that some gringos with mental or psychological problems tend to come to South American cities, including Medellin..Well, one has to wonder about a 53 year old guy who gets zero attention from women of any age in the US, then when he goes to Colombia he is suddenly God's gift to 20 year old girls, and comes on forums like this bragging about how these girls simply love him. Then suddenly he gets spurned by one (not the first time he has crashed and burned) then takes drastic reactionary measures by undergoing a face lift. No, this is not normal behavior.
Those days are long gone in MDE. Maybe 10 years ago, if you were blond (and young, tall and good-looking) you were a curiosity for them. But this hasn't been the case for a long, long time. You might still find this if you head to a small town where there are virtually no tourists, but certainly not in MDE. Maybe go to Quibdo.
THEY ARE EXOTIC TO US, AND WE FOR THEM.
We are blond, +10 cm taller, blue eyes, comes from a continent like they imagine is some sort of Paradise.
Many mestizos, indians, black colombianas NEVER get the chance to rise in "socio-economic status".
Extranjeros gives the opportunity, they get the chance to leave a hopeless situation.
Barrio girls with examinas from SENA, SENSA etc. Will never get a good jobb as economists, law, etc.
There are 2-5% rich in Colombia, and they take a degree in a high class University abroad.
20% studies at EAFIT, UPB, Nacional.
50% get a mediocre examina or drop out and 25% never even start.
This change, but it is a slow process.
I have had girlfriends and prepagos since 2009. I have been out with girls on restaurants, events etc. Never noticed anything about that I was a client and she a prepago.
Colombians respect persons private spere! Which americans certainly don't do, as many Europeans.
They simply have in their culture; they don't bother others, and doesn't have to be worried about others bothering them.
That's what I love about there culture!
Medellin has 500 k females 18-35 and, only the the top 20% are 100.000 girls!
This is not Pattaya och Angeleses City or Sosua.
I spend DAYS in Laureles without seeing a gringo, and if I do, it's usually some backpackers.
Areas as Parque Lleras, San Diego etc, exists in every city, world around. But's a fraction of the total escort, P4 P, etc. That gringos are involved in.
Enjoy Medellin and Colombia.
Of course they think we are guapos; 6 feet /+180 com, bodyshape and structure are tall-thin!
Colombianas like that, they love it.
But are expected to marry a boring guy from a well-known and established family, to keep status quo; and do their part; helping with all domestic-never-ending-work.
That's the reason. They flee their duties!
PREPAGOS. Hmmm. All girls that are pretty or normal pretty has sexual services to get advantages since they are very young.
Colombia is like that. Girls are horney and having sex for money doesn't bother the majority of them.
Being alone on Holidays is a sad problems, but the other 98% of the days.
SlamCity7777
12-13-15, 01:40
Those days are long gone in MDE. Maybe 10 years ago, if you were blond (and young, tall and good-looking) you were a curiosity for them. But this hasn't been the case for a long, long time. You might still find this if you head to a small town where there are virtually no tourists, but certainly not in MDE. Maybe go to Quibdo.Yes I agree that just being a gringo is not enough to get a non pro in well any where other than China or Korea where that shit still plays and it's a curiosity and status thing.
Hard truth of life. Tall, blond, and Good Looking will always be in style with girls! Just like Long hair, thin body, big tits, long pretty hair, and a fat ass are always in demand.
Member #4393
12-13-15, 04:17
Hmmmm. Sounds like you haven't seen many gringos that didn't look like a monger.
But I get the point you are trying to make. Does seem like there are a few gringos on the board that think people can tell if their date is a prepago just by looking at the girl when the truth is they are looking at the gringo and the chick is just guilty by association.
So for the guys that think it is the girl and not you. Here is a little test you can perform. If your girl won't kiss you in public. You definitely look like a monger. And if she won't let you meet her family and friends she just doesn't like you or know you well enough. Pretty simple actually.MG I have been doing this a long long time. Self awareness is a big asset in this game, and thinking you blend into Colombian society at age 50 out with a hot 20 year old, no matter how suave you think you are, you are mistaken. As far as how gringos look, there are guys that groom well, in shape, clothes match, speak Spanish that are still clueless on how Colombian society works. This is because we come from planet Mars compared to a society based on the socio-economic aberrations of Colombia.
Well, if restaurants are an issue there's always the movies. At least you're in a dark room where no one can see you or gossip about you because they're focused on what's on the big screen.
I think sparrow is spot on when it comes to Colombians respecting other's private lives. As long as you don't throw it in people's faces, they will notice, but probably not think much of it or comment about it.
Your social skills and appearance / grooming can also play a part.
My advice would be, once again, aprenda a hablar espanol! That way you can talk about this with your chica. Tell her you'd like to take her out sometime, but only if she's comfortable about it and in a place where she won't feel out of sorts. The two of you could probably figure something out, come to an arrangement.
LookingToSwing4
12-13-15, 14:35
MG I have been doing this a long long time. Self awareness is a big asset in this game, and thinking you blend into Colombian society at age 50 out with a hot 20 year old, no matter how suave you think you are, you are mistaken. As far as how gringos look, there are guys that groom well, in shape, clothes match, speak Spanish that are still clueless on how Colombian society works. This is because we come from planet Mars compared to a society based on the socio-economic aberrations of Colombia.This is another one of these threads that has many different faces. My life, my choice. I do not intentionally choose to snub Colombian society, but I do believe it is my right to enjoy myself while on vacation in their country. One thing I do know about Colombian society is they know how to have a good time! I would not expect them to conform to American societal norms when they visit or to blend-in. And I do not see enjoying my vacation by being sequestered in my apartment, having food delivered throughout the day. Whether one speaks the language or not, I do not think is that important. Just be respectful. Dress nice, be kind and don't be a loud drunk while out among the locals and keep the PDA's to a minimum. What the locals think about me is not my concern. They will think what they will and no matter what I do, I will NEVER blend-in. So what if I am an obvious gringo with a P4 P date. My pesos have the same value as theirs. And if my date is uncomfortable being seen with me in public, then we will stay in. But I would say 95% of my dates have no problem being seen with me in public, despite being an obvious gringo. I understand and respect that they do not wish to be seen by anyone they know, so we opt for Poblado and not Bello. Just another of the endless perspectives on this topic.
Member #4393
12-13-15, 18:54
This is another one of these threads that has many different faces. My life, my choice. I do not intentionally choose to snub Colombian society, but I do believe it is my right to enjoy myself while on vacation in their country. One thing I do know about Colombian society is they know how to have a good time! I would not expect them to conform to American societal norms when they visit or to blend-in. And I do not see enjoying my vacation by being sequestered in my apartment, having food delivered throughout the day. Whether one speaks the language or not, I do not think is that important. Just be respectful. Dress nice, be kind and don't be a loud drunk while out among the locals and keep the PDA's to a minimum. What the locals think about me is not my concern. They will think what they will and no matter what I do, I will NEVER blend-in. So what if I am an obvious gringo with a P4 P date. My pesos have the same value as theirs. And if my date is uncomfortable being seen with me in public, then we will stay in. But I would say 95% of my dates have no problem being seen with me in public, despite being an obvious gringo. I understand and respect that they do not wish to be seen by anyone they know, so we opt for Poblado and not Bello. Just another of the endless perspectives on this topic.I thank you get it. See my previous post. Thanking you are blending in is foolhardy, understanding you don't while being respectful and having fun is the key. See my previous post on this matter.
C Jack Sparrow
12-14-15, 22:36
Paisas that are serious move FROM Poblado, since it's so strongly connected to Narcos other types of business that make money out of suspect "legit" business.
Sincere paisas despise many of the "newly rich" in Poblado.
I have enough friends that works public servants on high (est) level in their respective field to say that a factor that, when the next Real Estate crisis come, will hit poblado very hard.
Blonde men having Pocahontas novias. Hmmm. People, both men and women of the whole social spectre, don't mind. I would even say; they love it; they want that their pretty girls are popular among Northern men.
All societies have a natural law about age. But Anglo-Saxon have become paranoid.
Here in SA, except want to-be Big Powers Argentina / Uruguay and lately Chile, don't want to marry "rich" americans or Europeans. With 30% of Western World GNP; ask any "porteo", look at their behavior, their opinions, they still like No. 1 in the world, and their setbacks are due to US / GB conspiration.
Colombians want to export their super beautiful girls, and a girl of 23-32 marrying a man 34-54 are not controversial. He is excepted to take care of her.
Same in the informal prepago sector. Young ladies, from Estrato-13, or 4, are "allowed" to go out and have a dinner in a 4-5 restaurants without anyone bothering them in any way.
Why?
One reason; rich / influent paisa / medellin) men take their "novias" out to the same restaurants as you do.
And it is deep in Colombian culture. You respect the private sphere of other people.
If you gus think Poblado are the highest level, you are 100% wrong.
Quickly made money, maffia etc. Wns a lot of biuldings here. Prostitutes of highest level have their apartment here.
Americans, just counting $$ PAY!. They don't think!
You can have a young stunning girlfriend, if you just bother to do the work.
Latin females wants trust, Anglo-Saxon females have feminism, rights, can dress like a man, look like a non-sexual being; and they don't have to care at all.
The inventor of the female viagra PT-141 concludes that, not less than 1/3 of Western females are sexually disturbed, they show low interest in the other sex, but are instead willing to set them up, go get a good deal, at a divorce, which comes when the next victim are hooked up and prepared to "he lp her out of her miserable situation, that her husband put her in.
NO. Having anxiety over having a good looking girlfriend, novia.
Leave this forum then, it only bring BAD energy!
Look! In many Western countries, and even Argentina; the female are the older one in the couple. Not 2-4 years, but 6-15 years older. Even more.
Since lot of men never get it in their own country, they feel ashamed when offered what they really want!
Get a good-looking novia and prepagos and learn to love your right to feel good!
This was how Jackson and the other veterans started out!
BeersTerry
12-15-15, 02:56
Huh? What are you really trying to say?
Mr Enternational
12-15-15, 03:14
Huh? What are you really trying to say?I didn't want to say anything first. That was totally incoherent. A bunch of jumbled stuff all over the place. Maybe he was just brainstorming.
Black Page
12-15-15, 03:22
Maybe he was just brainstorming.Brain storm, yes.
The Tall Man
12-15-15, 06:49
Huh? What are you really trying to say?Is it just me but why do I understand almost everything Jack Sparrow was saying. Made a lot of sense once I read it about 4 times over.
The Tall Man.
Member #4402
12-15-15, 14:26
I enjoyed reading your thoughts.
Others may be confused by the stream-of-consciousness format, but let's ignore their comments.
Paul
Paisas that are serious move FROM Poblado, since it's so strongly connected to Narcos other types of business that make money out of suspect "legit" business.
Sincere paisas despise many of the "newly rich" in Poblado.
I have enough friends that works public servants on high (est) level in their respective field to say that a factor that, when the next Real Estate crisis come, will hit poblado very hard.
Blonde men having Pocahontas novias. Hmmm. People, both men and women of the whole social spectre, don't mind. I would even say; they love it; they want that their pretty girls are popular among Northern men.
All societies have a natural law about age. But Anglo-Saxon have become paranoid..
Colombia Jake
12-15-15, 15:44
I was referring to having to get a hooker on Christmas, and then calling her a girlfriend. It would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic. I didn't mention pricing, but since you brought it up.
As for the rest of your comment, I paid 120 K for 6 hour session yesterday (actually two separate 3 hour sessions with same girl, with dinner in the middle which cost 33 K), and that included anal. So I would add that your pricing is ridiculous, and I wish you'd quit openly taking advantage of guys here by suggesting they are getting a "girlfriend experience" as you set them up to walk around park Lleras with a hooker. Just be upfront and quit humping it so hard. If somebody needs your introduction to hookers then they will use your "hotel suites", but it isn't going to be any different than any other hooker "date" and it certainly isn't a girlfriend if they have to pay 300 K for a few hours to walk her around Lleras, so call it for what it is.
And I stand by my comment that nothing is more desperate than being so alone, with no girlfriend or family, on Christmas than paying Jake to call a hooker to pretend she is a girlfriend...Lets start with the pricing which is sad that you would work a chick over for 6 hours for 120000 pesos. You may think that's cool, but your taking advantage of the girl which is garbage. Even the Mansion charges 150000 an hour so when you add 5 hours to it 300000 is not out of line. I like my girlfriends to hang out personally, I don't like seeing the girl I just banged going from one John to the next John like you experience at the Mansion but that's just me. It's mostly about sharing and I personally don't like to share my girl before or after!
There's nothing desperate about calling me because your on vacation and your here to get laid! You can be alone all you want back in the States. Your here to have fun and never let people shame you and keep you from having a good time. I'm here to help provide fun for those with little Spanish or knowledge of the landscape, we provide needed support so don't let anyone paint a picture that its easy like this guy or you will end up alone for most of your vacation. I don't do any more PR than the Mansion doe's on this site so it still comes down to do you like shooting fish in a barrel like the mansion or going out and having fun together while she shows you around town like the girls do here! The guys who start here and think its easy on their own always end up saying the best part of my vacation was when I was at Colombia Jake's! Starting Motorcycle tours around town with the extra Motorcycle I have available here, but I only offer it to guys staying here. Come experience this sweetheart below!
Mr Adventure
12-15-15, 17:55
I enjoyed reading your thoughts.
Others may be confused by the stream-of-consciousness format, but let's ignore their comments.
PaulThis is one grasshopper who would really like to be able to understand what the CJS is saying. Sounds like somebody who's been drinking alone and is talking to someone else who isn't there (we all do it), except that somehow he left a dictation machine on, and it posted what he said.
Just struggling to understand. And wtf is a "stream-of consciousness" format?
Maybe he was just brainstorming.That was funny! Thanks for the humor. We need that once in a while.
Lets start with the pricing which is sad that you would work a chick over for 6 hours for 120000 pesos. You may think that's cool, but your taking advantage of the girl which is garbage. Even the Mansion charges 150000 an hour so when you add 5 hours to it 300000 is not out of line. I like my girlfriends to hang out personally, I don't like seeing the girl I just banged going from one John to the next John like you experience at the Mansion but that's just me. It's mostly about sharing and I personally don't like to share my girl before or after!
There's nothing desperate about calling me because your on vacation and your here to get laid! You can be alone all you want back in the States. Your here to have fun and never let people shame you and keep you from having a good time. I'm here to help provide fun for those with little Spanish or knowledge of the landscape, we provide needed support so don't let anyone paint a picture that its easy like this guy or you will end up alone for most of your vacation. I don't do any more PR than the Mansion doe's on this site so it still comes down to do you like shooting fish in a barrel like the mansion or going out and having fun together while she shows you around town like the girls do here! The guys who start here and think its easy on their own always end up saying the best part of my vacation was when I was at Colombia Jake's! Starting Motorcycle tours around town with the extra Motorcycle I have available here, but I only offer it to guys staying here. Come experience this sweetheart below!I live in Asia now but like to visit South America especially Medellin when I visit home.
I had a guy visit here in Asia a month back and a friend that I knew in the states ask me if I would show him around and vouched for the guy. He had never been here before and he was lost. I like to think I saved him time, money and mistakes while he was here. Now the question is, how much is that worth? I didn't charge him any money but would it had been worth it? I don't know but when you go to a place where a mistake could cost you big and I don"t mean money. A place like Medellin where there is real danger, maybe it's prudent to have someone with you that can show you around and keep you out of trouble.
Even with all the information on this and other boards some guys still need additional help. Shit, some won't even read the boards before they venture out.
Never stayed at Jake's but have stayed at the Mansion. I am more of a fish in a bucket kind of guy and I speak Spanish.
But if you are looking for what Jake offers, he keeps you safe so you can return home with stories to tell to your friends, perhaps he is earning his money and it's money well spent. I would rather see a friend home safe rather than him taking risk to save a few dollars.
Just one Opinion.
Black Page
12-15-15, 22:11
Even with all the information on this and other boards some guys still need additional help. Shit, some won't even read the boards before they venture out.
Charles Darwin explained this phenomenon about 155 years ago already.
Soldierb11
12-15-15, 22:58
Huh? What are you really trying to say?I certainly hope drugs and / or alcohol was used when writing that.
Soldierb11
12-15-15, 23:13
Lets start with the pricing which is sad that you would work a chick over for 6 hours for 120000 pesos. You may think that's cool, but your taking advantage of the girl which is garbage. Even the Mansion charges 150000 an hour so when you add 5 hours to it 300000 is not out of line. I like my girlfriends to hang out personally, I don't like seeing the girl I just banged going from one John to the next John like you experience at the Mansion but that's just me. It's mostly about sharing and I personally don't like to share my girl before or after!
There's nothing desperate about calling me because your on vacation and your here to get laid! You can be alone all you want back in the States. Your here to have fun and never let people shame you and keep you from having a good time. I'm here to help provide fun for those with little Spanish or knowledge of the landscape, we provide needed support so don't let anyone paint a picture that its easy like this guy or you will end up alone for most of your vacation. I don't do any more PR than the Mansion doe's on this site so it still comes down to do you like shooting fish in a barrel like the mansion or going out and having fun together while she shows you around town like the girls do here! The guys who start here and think its easy on their own always end up saying the best part of my vacation was when I was at Colombia Jake's! Starting Motorcycle tours around town with the extra Motorcycle I have available here, but I only offer it to guys staying here. Come experience this sweetheart below!Let's start with English grammar-- "your here to get laid" that's you are or you're not your. Making that mistake once in your post is just a mistake doing it 4 times shows your education level.
Lets continue with-- the original poster didn't "work over" his girl for 6 hours. She elected to stay and go out to dinner and get fucked again. Not Jamesdandy's fault if the girl liked him enough to stay longer.
--The Mansion doesn't charge anything. The girls normally ask for 150 k for short time and I have never in over 100 times taking a girl short time at the Mansion seen the girl leave my room in less than 90 minutes and most times they stay two hours.
--Yes I've seen mansion girls go from guy to guy sometimes in a day but that happens maybe 5% of the time.
--Colombia can be quite easy for a newbie if they stay at the mansion and go to the strip clubs if they don't find anything they like. Hundreds of new guys with zero Spanish accomplish this every year without your hand holding.
--Why post again the same picture of the girl in a blue top? If you are such the pimp daddy down here there should be 10 pictures of 10 different girls you are offering on Christmas.
No more advertising here Jake.
Member #4394
12-16-15, 03:50
It appears that many girls at casas have cold now. Before picking a girl, you may want to ask her if she has cold. Flu can ruin your entire stay in Medellin.
Mr Adventure
12-16-15, 03:58
Let's start with English grammar-- "your here to get laid" that's you are or you're not your. Making that mistake once in your post is just a mistake doing it 4 times shows your education level.
Lets continue with-- the original poster didn't "work over" his girl for 6 hours. She elected to stay and go out to dinner and get fucked again. Not Jamesdandy's fault if the girl liked him enough to stay longer.
--The Mansion doesn't charge anything. The girls normally ask for 150 k for short time and I have never in over 100 times taking a girl short time at the Mansion seen the girl leave my room in less than 90 minutes and most times they stay two hours.
--Yes I've seen mansion girls go from guy to guy sometimes in a day but that happens maybe 5% of the time.
--Colombia can be quite easy for a newbie if they stay at the mansion and go to the strip clubs if they don't find anything they like. Hundreds of new guys with zero Spanish accomplish this every year without your hand holding.
--Why post again the same picture of the girl in a blue top? If you are such the pimp daddy down here there should be 10 pictures of 10 different girls you are offering on Christmas.
No more advertising here Jake.If it bothers you that much then just put CJ on ignore? Pointing out grammar and spelling errors on an informal forum is generally frowned upon.
Your unwarranted attack, Mr. English Teacher, shows your level of class. This forum already has a moderator, and you ain't it.
Houston Player
12-16-15, 04:45
I agree with Soldier no more advertising Jake except in "your" own forum.
Mr Adventure
12-16-15, 06:21
I agree with Soldier no more advertising Jake except in "your" own forum.IMO, many guys who want to go to MDE but have absolutely no knowledge will not go to the other sub forums when most of the traffic is here. Without his input all they will hear about for beginners is the Mansion. So, they check it out and find it's something like a 4 day min, more noisy / costly than they prefer, the girls in the pics from the monthly email advertisements aren't as young or pretty as expected, and something about a steep hill. They go to make a rez and guess what, it's booked. I was once that guy.
Fortunately for me I had already grown sick of CR and knew enough about the DR to persevere, but as others have pointed out some guys do almost zero research. I waited almost 2 yrs longer than I should have and wasted resources in the wrong place. Just saying that w / o it many guys wouldn't take that all important first leap, and isn't that what matters, regardless of the path?
Most importantly, his post are not purely advertisements, and what some of you guys are advocating is an attempt to "discourage other member from posting" which is a violation of this forum.
C Jack Sparrow
12-16-15, 07:08
It appears that many girls at casas have cold now. Before picking a girl, you may want to ask her if she has cold. Flu can ruin your entire stay in Medellin.I was stupid enough not to just pay a fee, like 30-40 mil COP. She had the fly, but I attacked her anyway.
I got the fly, and pneumonia. The antibiotics helped, I took out it 4 times before finally understanding that it was not me being layz or the hot weather that caused the slow thinking and sweating. I went to UPBs doc and he gave me the strongest available antibiotics, to exclude that it was cronic. Very expensive, even though it was a copy.
After 3-4 days I was 100% again. The cheap antibiotics + painkillers, some tramadol, alcohol, had kept me going 7 weeks. But I made dizzy dizzy decisions, like going to Periera and meet an obvious barracuda. But all in all I managed well, but it could have become a lot worse.
Well, what I can I say. If a girl is supersexy, you must hold back, excuse yourself and look up another one. I love DATY and BBBJ so for me, and many of you are as crazy as I'm.
Be careful, have contact with a serious medic.
If you are in MDE for 2 weeks and have a big budget, wanting to fulfill your erotic dreams.
You will be satisfied 100% in the end. But apart from STD, pass, if the girl shows even the smallest signs of "gripa", fly.
Antibiotics helps, but it takes 2-4 days before you are fully aware of being infected.
Ask for a Killer AntiBiotic as soon as possible.
I took painkillers and tramadol, so I felt well, but I was slow, stupid, unaware.
Tramadol kills libido since it's relaxes the muscles, even the penis.
I was in MDE close to a half a year 2014, but if you want to turbo-vacation for a fortnight, you must have a plan for what to do being infected by the fly, "gripa".
The risk is in general small if you use alcohol-based antibacterial gel, shower and clean both of you. Make it a premium rule!
P.S. I will re-write my latest report. It was good, but, as I understand, somewhat confusing.
You will be satisfied 100% in the end. But apart from STD, pass, if the girl shows even the smallest signs of "gripa", fly.Sorry to hear you got sick. Don't they have flu shots available from where you're from? I always get one each year when the season comes.
Shot or no, I avoid sessioning with any chica that's obviously sick, even just an occasional cough or sniffle is a bad sign. The antibacterial gels you mention are a necessity even though many now say overuse of them has made us more vulnerable to the "super bugs." I think given our activities, it's best to use the gel.
Mr Enternational
12-16-15, 14:09
Imo, many guys who want to go to MDE but have absolutely no knowledgeBegs the question, why would they want to go if they have no knowledge? Usually you would want to go somewhere because of some type of knowledge/info you have obtained about the place. For example I had knowledge that Egypt had pyramids and mummies. I wanted to see pyramids and mummies. I PLANNED (I didn't just pop in hoping someone would be there to point me in the right direction) a trip to Egypt.
Fortunately for me I had already grown sick of CR and knew enough about the DR to persevere, but as others have pointed out some guys do almost zero research. I waited almost 2 yrs longer than I should have and wasted resources in the wrong place. Just saying that w / o it many guys wouldn't take that all important first leap, and isn't that what matters, regardless of the path?It serves them right if they don't research a place they plan on visiting. Only a fool would show up somewhere with no idea what there is to see and do. There is a saying about failing to plan means planning to fail. I find it hard to believe that there are guys out there who are just waiting on an invite/advertisement from CJ before they finally get serious about their plans to go to Medellin.
Member #4394
12-16-15, 14:59
1. If the girls are "obviously" sick in the presentation and therefore you can successfully avoid them, there would not have been this problem in the first place. Just ask the girl if she has gripa. She is least likely to lie to you, but if she lies to you and coughs in the room, you can ask mamasan for another girl.
2. Flu is caused by virus, not bacteria. Antibacterial things don't have any impact.
3. As we all know, flu shots are effective, but the effect is limited when the flu virus is rampant.
Sorry to hear you got sick. Don't they have flu shots available from where you're from? I always get one each year when the season comes.
Shot or no, I avoid sessioning with any chica that's obviously sick, even just an occasional cough or sniffle is a bad sign. The antibacterial gels you mention are a necessity even though many now say overuse of them has made us more vulnerable to the "super bugs." I think given our activities, it's best to use the gel.
Member #4394
12-16-15, 15:12
Most importantly, his post are not purely advertisements, and what some of you guys are advocating is an attempt to "discourage other member from posting" which is a violation of this forum.Yes they are pure ads. Just his poor writing makes his posts looking like something else. He has his own thread and should use it for his business.
I am not attacking his business. Where there is a demand, there will be a supply. As long as there are unskilled, unknowledgeable people, there will be business like his or Mansion. Just use his thRead.
Gentlemen,
I've been looking at accommodation near Parque Lleras, mostly because we're thinking of staying close to the nightlife and within a fair distance of clubs and casas.
Looking at this map (thanks for the great resource) I see a high concentration of clubs / casas more to the north of Lleras, near Parque Bolivar.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ptab=2&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ie=UTF8&mid=zzgTRtD9VTmQ.kn7YEgWmCD9E
I read that taxi's are cheap so it wouldn't be a problem to take a cab everyday a week long when going to the casas. But just wondering, is the area near Parque Bolivar a good place to stay? Are there bars there like at Lleras and how's the safety situation around the Parque Bolivar area?
Thanks.
Member #4394
12-16-15, 15:41
You do not want to stay around Bolivar. Stay at Lleras and take taxi to El Centro.
Gentlemen,
I've been looking at accommodation near Parque Lleras, mostly because we're thinking of staying close to the nightlife and within a fair distance of clubs and casas.
Looking at this map (thanks for the great resource) I see a high concentration of clubs / casas more to the north of Lleras, near Parque Bolivar.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ptab=2&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ie=UTF8&mid=zzgTRtD9VTmQ.kn7YEgWmCD9E
I read that taxi's are cheap so it wouldn't be a problem to take a cab everyday a week long when going to the casas. But just wondering, is the area near Parque Bolivar a good place to stay? Are there bars there like at Lleras and how's the safety situation around the Parque Bolivar area?
Thanks.
Mr Adventure
12-16-15, 19:06
Begs the question, why would they want to go if they have no knowledge? Usually you would want to go somewhere because of some type of knowledge/info you have obtained about the place. For example I had knowledge that Egypt had pyramids and mummies. I wanted to see pyramids and mummies. I PLANNED (I didn't just pop in hoping someone would be there to point me in the right direction) a trip to Egypt.No it doesn't, when I first came to this forum the only information I had was that it was supposed to be better than everywhere else in this hemisphere. Everybody has to start somewhere. Or maybe I should have said "very little knowledge" Either way, you're just trying to split hairs.
There is a saying about failing to plan means planning to fail. I find it hard to believe that there are guys out there who are just waiting on an invite/advertisement from CJ before they finally get serious about their plans to go to Medellin.Agree about failing to plan equals planning to fail. But now your twisting my words around, that isn't what was saying at all and you know it.
Again, if Jake's post bother you guys that much, why not just put him on ignore instead of bitching about it like a bunch of junior high school girls in a clique.
Mr Adventure
12-16-15, 19:19
1. If the girls are "obviously" sick in the presentation and therefore you can successfully avoid them, there would not have been this problem in the first place. Just ask the girl if she has gripa. She is least likely to lie to you, but if she lies to you and coughS in the room, you can ask mamasan for another girl.
2. Flu is caused by virus, not bacteria. Antibacterial things don't have any impact.
3. As we all know, flu shots are effective, but the effect is limited when the flu virus is rampant.This, when you have a non-viral infection antibiotics begin to provide relief in hours or minutes. Recently had a TMJ or something over the weekend and jaw swole like it was broken. Had some ciphro left over from a pharmacia in CR for UTI. Within a couple of hours things started to improve, otherwise I would have been visiting the ER. One good reason to stock up on antibiotics when in MDE.
You do not want to stay around Bolivar. Stay at Lleras and take taxi to El Centro.
.Thank you Matt. I actually thought that Lleras is Centro, getting there.
As for the Colombia Jake discussion: it's best to drop that topic and let the mods handle it if they think it needs handling. N00BS will be able to make up their own mind when it comes to attacking MDE under the guidance of CJ or go in solo. By the looks of it I'll be going without CJ's help, but to each his own. I do see why especially first timers would choose to use his services. And I personally don't see anything wrong with his work and him chiming in every now and then in this thread, so I think some of you should stop busting his balls or just push the ignore button like Mr. Adventure suggested. There are far more interesting things about MDE to talk about. This thread is actually full of side-tracking and off topic talk. A little bit of off topic is ok, but maybe we should try to keep it to a minimum.
James Dandy
12-16-15, 21:05
No it doesn't, when I first came to this forum the only information I had was that it was supposed to be better than everywhere else in this hemisphere. Everybody has to start somewhere. Or maybe I should have said "very little knowledge" Either way, you're just trying to split hairs.
Agree about failing to plan equals planning to fail. But now your twisting my words around, that isn't what was saying at all and you know it.
Again, if Jake's post bother you guys that much, why not just put him on ignore instead of bitching about it like a bunch of junior high school girls in a clique.Or you could take your own advice and ignore posts you don't like? While Mr Enternational has thousands of posts and many which I find myself nodding in agreement with, you seem to do nothing but police the forum. As far as Jake, he has a thread all his own where he can advertise and that is the point many have brought up. Personally, I don't care that he advertises, just the manner in which he does it, as if nobody can buy a hooker a meal (and for 1/3 the cost). LOL.
And NO, it is not our duty or desire to help the other fools you mention that don't have enough time to read the forum in order to help themselves. These same guys will never lift a finger to make a post of something useful, so they shouldn't expect anything, and you shouldn't be telling the regular posters how they're coming up short by having conversation here. I seem to recall most of your posts being argumentative and / or confrontational, so where is the help in that?
Has it dawned on you that comments like mine the other day might actually be intended to help somebody with facts, while Jake's are only shameless advertising and "all your wildest dreams will come true" type BS?
Smoky Jack
12-16-15, 23:47
I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?You can have some great times with these girls on a "date". If you are alone in another country and can hang out with a fun and sexy girl for not much money. Why WOULDN'T you? Of COURSE if you are at home you will not be hanging out with hookers. First, for me in the US they would charge you like 200 bucks / hour. Second, I would not want to be seen with a hooker at home. Why do you ask such a question?? Seems kinda obvious.
A good evening to you fine gentlemen. First, I wanted to thank everyone here who shared valuable knowledge. I wanted to share my experiences during this rookie visit.
I'm posting from my private apartment at the moment in Parque Lleras and couldn't be happier w / the location and my stay in general.
*Disclosure* - I took a 3-night trip here to Medellin largely to partake in the beautiful women. But also just to explore the city / restaurants / scenery. This is a stunning city and I've fallen in love with it. The dollar is strong, the people are very nice / fair (fair in terms of business dealings) - and the women are unparalleled.
Places I highly recommend:
Fase Dios: 2-3 miles from Parque Lleras (10,000 cab ride) This is my favorite place here. 10,000 entry fee It's unlike anything I've seen in the world and the women are stunningly beautiful. I love strip clubs and this is a genuine strip club (not a brothel) - and it features women who can really dance and showcase their sensuality on a world-class stage. As a strip club aficionado. I feel that a woman's stage show can say a lot about how she'll be in bed. And this was definitely the case here. If you take the chicas to "private rooms" - it's about $180,000-$200,000. Very clean facility next door (south beach hostel / hotel) - and the club has something for everyone. You won't regret. I saw a handful of 9's & 10's.
La Isla: (10-20 minute drive from Parque Lleras (12,000 cab ride) - this is a popular club here. It's more of a showy club and very comfortable seating / open warehouse space. Very beautiful women and welcoming hosts. 10,000 entry fee. You can take chicas to private rooms here as well. Quoted at 200,000 per hour. I'd say the quality was slightly better than Fase Dios but not by much.
Energy Massage: This is a bit further out and a longer cab drive from Parque Lleras but a nice way to see Medellin. And it's a brothel. But very sophisticated and well done. It's a nondescript building. No sign. And you walk in and sit down while the hostess calls in all the women available. About 30 women came in and introduced themselves to me and many were quite beautiful. 140,000 per hour.
Note: my Spanish is pretty poor. But don't let that dissuade you. Try to speak it and use google translate (LOL) on your phone. I will be learning more Spanish as it certainly is much more fun if you can speak in detailed conversation with the ladies. And they are everywhere. The coffee house scene is awesome. Restaurants fabulous. And Medellin has a golden place in my heart.
I went to some other spots but can't say I recommend them as much as the aforementioned three.
As for Colombia Jake. I did get in touch w / him and he offered to take me around on a night-tour for $75/ hour. Which seemed like a fair deal. But I felt like I already knew the main spots and he tried to upsell me a bit saying it would be another $25 after we agreed on $75- so I opted out. Seems like a very nice guy and it's a good service for those who are a bit spooked and out of their element- but I found it fun to explore Medellin on my own.
Mr Adventure
12-17-15, 02:42
Or you could take your own advice and ignore posts you don't like? While Mr Enternational has thousands of posts and many which I find myself nodding in agreement with, you seem to do nothing but police the forum. As far as Jake, he has a thread all his own where he can advertise and that is the point many have brought up. Personally, I don't care that he advertises, just the manner in which he does it, as if nobody can buy a hooker a meal (and for 1/3 the cost). LOL.
And NO, it is not our duty or desire to help the other fools you mention that don't have enough time to read the forum in order to help themselves. These same guys will never lift a finger to make a post of something useful, so they shouldn't expect anything, and you shouldn't be telling the regular posters how they're coming up short by having conversation here. I seem to recall most of your posts being argumentative and / or confrontational, so where is the help in that?
Has it dawned on you that comments like mine the other day might actually be intended to help somebody with facts, while Jake's are only shameless advertising and "all your wildest dreams will come true" type BS?So James Dandy logic says that having a higher post count automatically make that person right and the person with fewer posts wrong. Especially if that person has been given the official James Dandy nod of approval.
And just how does one with zero experience in MDE and no Spanish accomplish that w / o Jake or I presume the Mansion? I paid my dates 170-190 mil, plus $25 for his mamasan duties (stayed there) plus advice on what to pay, for less than $100 total. Most of Jake's girls that I saw were above and beyond anything personality wise that I had encountered before, they spoke english and really carried the evening-great work ethic, so to minimize a guy's experience your comment really isn't accurate nor fair. I don't think anyone seriously think's of these girls as a GF, but a GFE that's a different story.
That is pretty funny though, saying that pretty much any guy can have the same experience for less than $34. I need you to show me that trick, LOL.
I would rather not argue however I will always defend my position. Based on firsthand experience with Jake's girls, I think that you were expressing a different opinion than Jake's and that the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
I also think the last post by Dellotoro was a great one, we need to focus on the more interesting things.
Mr Adventure
12-17-15, 03:16
I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?Imo, I think we are trying to recapture something that we either lost or never had, that is to fill a void. That void like all addictions is emotion driven. Our emotions do not differentiate between feelings that are valid as in a normal relationship, and the p4 p type GFE. The experience feels the same to us or both on a physical and emotional level.
We step on the slippery slope when we allow ourselves to buy into this delusion. We know better but just can't seem to be able to stop ourselves. We're no smarter than a fish that keeps getting hooked on the same artificial lure.
ThadMax: thank you for that good and encouraging report. This fuels my hunger for MDE even more. Care to share more information about the apartment you used?
Black Page
12-17-15, 05:00
How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?I never felt the wish to take out a hooker to dinner in USA or Europe. But I often wish that in Colombia or SE Asia.
Women here are super. Not only physically. That's the point. Another planet.
The Tall Man
12-17-15, 06:16
A good evening to you fine gentlemen. First, I wanted to thank everyone here who shared valuable knowledge. I wanted to share my experiences during this rookie visit.
I'm posting from my private apartment at the moment in Parque Lleras and couldn't be happier w / the location and my stay in general.
*Disclosure* - I took a 3-night trip here to Medellin largely to partake in the beautiful women. But also just to explore the city / restaurants / scenery. This is a stunning city and I've fallen in love with it. The dollar is strong, the people are very nice / fair (fair in terms of business dealings) - and the women are unparalleled.
Places I highly recommend:
Fase Dios: 2-3 miles from Parque Lleras (10,000 cab ride) This is my favorite place here. 10,000 entry fee It's unlike anything I've seen in the world and the women are stunningly beautiful. I love strip clubs and this is a genuine strip club (not a brothel) - and it features women who can really dance and showcase their sensuality on a world-class stage. As a strip club aficionado. I feel that a woman's stage show can say a lot about how she'll be in bed. And this was definitely the case here. If you take the chicas to "private rooms" - it's about $180,000-$200,000. Very clean facility next door (south beach hostel / hotel) - and the club has something for everyone. You won't regret. I saw a handful of 9's & 10's..Great first post! And you only had 3 days but I must say you packed some fun into that short period.
Oh and we must tell you as we say to other first timers. You will be back!
The Tall Man.
Quagmire1974
12-17-15, 09:11
A good evening to you fine gentlemen. First, I wanted to thank everyone here who shared valuable knowledge. I wanted to share my experiences during this rookie visit.
I'm posting from my private apartment at the moment in Parque Lleras and couldn't be happier w / the location and my stay in general.
*Disclosure* - I took a 3-night trip here to Medellin largely to partake in the beautiful women. But also just to explore the city / restaurants / scenery. This is a stunning city and I've fallen in love with it. The dollar is strong, the people are very nice / fair (fair in terms of business dealings) - and the women are unparalleled.
Places I highly recommend:
Fase Dios: 2-3 miles from Parque Lleras (10,000 cab ride) This is my favorite place here. 10,000 entry fee It's unlike anything I've seen in the world and the women are stunningly beautiful. I love strip clubs and this is a genuine strip club (not a brothel) - and it features women who can really dance and showcase their sensuality on a world-class stage. As a strip club aficionado. I feel that a woman's stage show can say a lot about how she'll be in bed. And this was definitely the case here. If you take the chicas to "private rooms" - it's about $180,000-$200,000. Very clean facility next door (south beach hostel / hotel) - and the club has something for everyone. You won't regret. I saw a handful of 9's & 10's..Excellent report. This is exactly the type of information that needs to be posted more often on ISG. No doubt that it'll be helpful to lurking mongers who read this thread daily in preparation for their trips to MDE. Your comments about Colombia Jake are particularly interesting. What kind of tour was offered for $75 an hour? And what was the basis / reason for suddenly wanting to increase the fee to $100 an hour? Getting into the specifics will be helpful to mongers as well.
LookingToSwing4
12-17-15, 13:44
I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?My reasoning is that I usually travel to MDE solo. Mostly I do this due to my unpredictable calendar (last minute trips), but I also travel there under the radar. Having a beautiful and sexy companion who I also enjoy as a person to share dinner and drinks with is a nice way to spend an evening. Sure beats eating and drinking alone. I have very few amigas who spend only an hour or two with me. I would say that most tend to spend the entire day or evening with me. But when my faves only have an hour or two to spend with me, I usually try to fit in something new, short-time.
I have no plans to bring one of them home to meet Mother, anytime soon. But I have met several that have provided many memorable moments exploring and exposing me to the real Medellin or a fantastic weekend party night on the town! Guess that is what I am paying for, with the other adult benefits on the side. Going on 58 years old, I just do not have the energy I did of 20 years ago to sport-f**k. LOL. Just another example of how we all "roll" differently!
DirkTheDiggler
12-17-15, 18:04
I come back from New Life. Thank you for the information in the forum about, it was quite enjoyable. No rip-off and nearly GFS, will go back again.
As I am living in country much more dangerous than this one I feel very safe.
Will try Aiffe later or tomorrow.
If there is anybody who wants to meet in the night for a beer or strip bar pm me.
DD
The Tall Man
12-17-15, 22:16
My reasoning is that I usually travel to MDE solo. Mostly I do this due to my unpredictable calendar (last minute trips), but I also travel there under the radar. Having a beautiful and sexy companion who I also enjoy as a person to share dinner and drinks with is a nice way to spend an evening. Sure beats eating and drinking alone. I have very few amigas who spend only an hour or two with me. I would say that most tend to spend the entire day or evening with me. But when my faves only have an hour or two to spend with me, I usually try to fit in something new, short-time.
I have no plans to bring one of them home to meet Mother, anytime soon. But I have met several that have provided many memorable moments exploring and exposing me to the real Medellin or a fantastic weekend party night on the town! Guess that is what I am paying for, with the other adult benefits on the side. Going on 58 years old, I just do not have the energy I did of 20 years ago to sport-f**k. LOL. Just another example of how we all "roll" differently!Pushing 60 myself I feel you. I have no need or drive to sport fuck anymore. I am getting to the point where I love the scent of a woman who is lying next to me and then to fuck is the topping.
The Tall Man.
ThadMax: thank you for that good and encouraging report. This fuels my hunger for MDE even more. Care to share more information about the apartment you used?Sure. I used an airbnb option and was very happy with it. Google "theapartmentmedellin" and you will see the website pop up. A lot of these listings are on airbnb and here's why I recommend:
-The host speaks English and is very responsive.
-I coordinated airport pickup / drop off for a reasonable fee. And it was well worth it as a very nice gent picked me up in international arrivals holding my name with a sign. And whisked me away to Medellin directly to my apartment.
-you can take chicas up to the private apartments with no hassle from hotel / reception staff.
Excellent report. This is exactly the type of information that needs to be posted more often on ISG. No doubt that it'll be helpful to lurking mongers who read this thread daily in preparation for their trips to MDE. Your comments about Colombia Jake are particularly interesting. What kind of tour was offered for $75 an hour? And what was the basis / reason for suddenly wanting to increase the fee to $100 an hour? Getting into the specifics will be helpful to mongers as well.Thanks. I felt it important to share the knowledge as it helped me (even though I had to sift through a lot of snark / pointless arguments on this board to get to the gold LOL) - I really would love if this board was more friendly / informative. And I want to do my best to help fellow rookies out as Medellin is a gem and a place that every man should experience at least once in my opinion.
As for Colombia Jake. I actually want to say that I found him to be very respectful and a very nice guy. I just wasn't convinced the service was for me. He offered $75 for a 'night tour' which would last approximately from 7:30-12 am -- the additional $25/ hour was justified as an additional to fee to ride on the back of his bike with him through the city. I'm sure it would've been a fun time. But because I did my homework prior to coming. I was quite certain that I had already identified the golden locations throughout the city.
All this being said. I think Colombian Jake's service is reasonable for those who don't want to have to worry about coordinating any logistics and just want to be led by an experienced veteran (which I'm sure he is).
Member #4394
12-18-15, 19:05
As for Colombia Jake. I did get in touch w / him and he offered to take me around on a night-tour for $75/ hour. Which seemed like a fair deal. But I felt like I already knew the main spots and he tried to upsell me a bit saying it would be another $25 after we agreed on $75- so I opted out. Seems like a very nice guy and it's a good service for those who are a bit spooked and out of their element- but I found it fun to explore Medellin on my own.Thank you for the report. That is about 330 k peso per hour. It would be around 1000k peso for a 3 hour guide. That is an unreasonably high rate. It is the monthly income for blue collar workers in Colombia. Some gringos here will do it for you for free. Just print my casa map and show it to the taxi driver. Jake uses my map, he does not have any additional info. You are sane to reject his offer.
Mr. Adventure, please do not respond to this post. Have a good day.
OK gents -- I am now back in the USA After an absolutely epic first experience in Medellin. And I will be back.
I won't repeat the information from my last post but will add on some new information (this is particularly useful for rookies / first-timers / those thinking of planning a trip but a bit unsure).
1.) Go. Just book the trip and go. The dollar is at an all-time high right now and you get an unbelievable value in Medellin at the moment -- from hotel rates, to dinner prices, to accommodations. To taxi fares. Can't speak Spanish? Learn a few basic phrases and have google translate available. Do not create excuses why you can't go. Just do it. The only reason I wouldn't recommend going is if you are easily spooked and not adventurous at all. I traveled to Medellin by myself with no prior experience in South America. And I found Medellin to be safer than many USA Cities.
2.) While I did travel solo. I met up with many travelers throughout my stay. Both in Parque Lieras and in the clubs -- I'm very outgoing so it was easy for me to make friends, and while I do like to travel solo and under the radar. I also love to "monger" with like-minded friends. But the reason I usually steer clear of such groups is because I generally need a certain level of sophistication from comrades when I partake in a foreign country / culture. Meaning: I don't like loud, obnoxious Americans who are drunk and drawing attention. I like people who are respectful, take care in their own appearance / presentation. And respect the local culture. But that's besides the point.
3.) Additional information from my previous 1st post. So my top 3 spots are: La Isla (strip club); Fase Dos (strip club); Energy (brothel / massage) -- I already posted about these spots so I will share some new information on other spots I went to:
Barra Ejecutiva: interesting, local spot. Def not a lot of tourists venture out here -- I found the quality of women to be lower here. But still very beautiful and very much a place for Colombian locals. Club was not as clean and upscale as the aforementioned. But for the right guy they may love it. I didn't partake in any chicas here.
New Life: Very fun / cool place. Didn't partake in any chicas here either but I was pressed for time as this was my last visit.
Luna Luneras: (strip club) - another more local spot. Women were more on the average side (may have been an off night) - but very much worth a trip just for contrast purposes.
A fellow board member here recommended an agency by the name of angelasinfieres -- and I also recommend. I used this service one night to bring a mamacita to my apartment and it was very pleased -- Luisa is her name- highly recommend. I wanted to try this for contrast purposes to see the quality versus the clubs.
Price list:
La Isla: private room- 1 hour- 250,000-300,000 (most expensive strip club but still a BARGAIN for the American).
Fase Dos: private room- 1 hour- 180,000-200,000.
Barra Ejecutiva: 1 hour 80,000.
Energy: 1 hour 120,000-140,000.
Angelasinfieres (agency): 1 hour 350,000.
Luna Luneras: 1 hour 100,000.
*Note* prices may vary and you can negotiate. But I didn't really try to because I was happy to add to the local economy as these prices are more than fair to me traveling from America where these costs are basically what a lap dance would cost in a USA Strip club.
I hope I've been helpful and I thank everyone for their information / knowledge. Let me know if you have any questions.
Also: I'm planning a return trip in 2016 - would be glad to coordinate with rookies or anyone interested in meeting in MDE.
Gary Groundwork
12-18-15, 19:35
My reasoning is that I usually travel to MDE solo. Mostly I do this due to my unpredictable calendar (last minute trips), but I also travel there under the radar. Having a beautiful and sexy companion who I also enjoy as a person to share dinner and drinks with is a nice way to spend an evening. Sure beats eating and drinking alone.!Yeah but it ain't real. She is there for the money and the food. She doesn't give one fuck about you just your wallet so what's the point.
ThadMax: Thank you for adding such useful information. 2016 will also mark my first visit to Colombia, and for a first-timer these types of reports in combination with the MDE-map are very helpful.
- Did you also manage to hook up with non-working girls?
- At what time does the action slow down / do the bars and cafe's close around Lleras?
ps: You mentioned an agency you used, you probably mean: angelesinfieles.
I want visit Medellin as part of my south American trip.
Want to stay there for 3 to 5 days.
I did RTFF but still confused about where to stay, I have following option.
1 . Stay all 4 days at mansion.
2 Stay all 4 days at Colombia jake (I didn't like its accommodation facilities).
3 Stay in apartment and acquire Colombia jake GFE dates.
4 Stay in Mansion and acquire Colombia jake facilities (can I take Colombia jake GF date to mansion).
Member #4393
12-19-15, 15:09
Yeah but it ain't real. She is there for the money and the food. She doesn't give one fuck about you just your wallet so what's the point.This is probably true if you are on vacation and especially true if you are of the ilk to frequent cases exclusively. If you frequent an area for a while you have the chance to build friendships with some of the girls and if you are a decent looking fella with good hygiene and the ability to make girls laugh or talk about things that are of their interest, going out with you can be fun and the girls will occasionally, if temporarily, fall for you. Some guys have a perspective issue, the girls are either all good or all bad, or they are innocents that must support their family or hardened money grubbing workers, or that they hate you or love gringos because they hate the guys where they live, or that all x women are a certain way or that all girls from x country are working girls. None of this is true, these girls are people and have the uncanny ability to like or dislike you based on factors other than money.
This is where traveling gets real good. A handful of the guys I know understand this well that frequent this forum, Ricker being a good example. There are many more who have left these forums for good or that never have found value in them that play in this arena. Many others never get it and really aren't doing much more than the guys who frequent Asian massage parlor a back in the USA.
As for Colombia Jake. I actually want to say that I found him to be very respectful and a very nice guy. I just wasn't convinced the service was for me. He offered $75 for a 'night tour' which would last approximately from 7:30-12 am -- the additional $25/ hour was justified as an additional to fee to ride on the back of his bike with him through the city. I'm sure it would've been a fun time. But because I did my homework prior to coming. I was quite certain that I had already identified the golden locations throughout the city.
All this being said. I think Colombian Jake's service is reasonable for those who don't want to have to worry about coordinating any logistics and just want to be led by an experienced veteran (which I'm sure he is).Have you went on any other City / History Tours? I would like to experience a city in a similar fashion, a mix of mongering and Tourism.
Member #4394
12-19-15, 16:02
For newbies,
Map here: https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&authuser=0&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=206810231178282017429.000494779e6b2fb07f4d4.
If you have only one or two days, go to Energy (120 k h) and New Life (75 k h).
If you would like to spend a more time to look around cheaper casas, visit Zandaly, Chicas Punto, Aiffe, Sexi Fantasia 2, and Club de Amigas Sexi (40 k hh. 60 h). The rooms are not clean though.
Just write down the address of casas on a piece of paper and show it to the taxi driver.
Great thanks to WT69's info and collaboration.
Mr. Adventure, please do not respond to this post.
Mr Adventure
12-19-15, 16:39
Thanks. I felt it important to share the knowledge as it helped me (even though I had to sift through a lot of snark / pointless arguments on this board to get to the gold LOL) - I really would love if this board was more friendly / informative. And I want to do my best to help fellow rookies out as Medellin is a gem and a place that every man should experience at least once in my opinion.
As for Colombia Jake. I actually want to say that I found him to be very respectful and a very nice guy. I just wasn't convinced the service was for me. He offered $75 for a 'night tour' which would last approximately from 7:30-12 am -- the additional $25/ hour was justified as an additional to fee to ride on the back of his bike with him through the city. I'm sure it would've been a fun time. But because I did my homework prior to coming. I was quite certain that I had already identified the golden locations throughout the city.
All this being said. I think Colombian Jake's service is reasonable for those who don't want to have to worry about coordinating any logistics and just want to be led by an experienced veteran (which I'm sure he is).Now that he has an extra moto I had thought about the day tour. In the interests of accuracy, think that Member #4394 must have misunderstood the pricing. A night tour for $100 USD is around 330 k COP, not the 1000 k COP that he had stated. Huge difference.
Mr Enternational
12-19-15, 17:12
I did RTFF but still confused about where to stay, I have following option.
1 . Stay all 4 days at mansion.
2 Stay all 4 days at Colombia jake (I didn't like its accommodation facilities).
3 Stay in apartment and acquire Colombia jake GFE dates.
4 Stay in Mansion and acquire Colombia jake facilities (can I take Colombia jake GF date to mansion).I think last week CJ said that you have to stay at his place in order for him to fix you up with a girl. How does this work anyway? Do you just show up and then are given a blind date that you may or may not have chemistry with? I have never done mongering that way nor ordering up from an add or something I have seen on the internet. Part of the fun for me is having a bunch of live girls to choose from, whether in a casa or disco setting. I don't have a problem finding a normal woman to fuck, go to dinner, movie, or dancing with on my own.
Member #4394
12-19-15, 23:03
1) You are hurting, rather than helping, his business because you appear to be an alias or affiliate of Jake and your very unique writing is making him looking bogus.
2) you are creating and increasing enemies of Jake, thereby increasing the insecurity of Jake. His web site and his home address are public.
I have no affiliation with Jake, My writing style is my own. I do have first hand experience doing business with Jake and at no time did I ever feel I was done wrong. Believe me, if he had I would say so.
Mattpsyche has problems keeping the facts straight. In every case his low-life friends attacked me first, simply for offering a different opinion, half the time the issue had nothing to do with Jake (ie the biggest issue was in regards to posting unauthorized pics).
If this wasn't the case the mods would have banned me long ago, they know it takes two or more people to have an argument. (ie One guy was so low class that he attacked Jake's education level because of his less than great writing. He actually began to give Jake an lecture. What I would really like to see is that guy TRY and ATTEMPT to give that same lecture to Jake's face.).
Clearly there is a little clique here. These guys have a grudge and just can't stand it when someone disagrees with them. Despite what they say, they're not really trying to help new guys, as much as they are trying to hurt or silence someone who isn't in their clique.
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