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Yeah but it ain't real. She is there for the money and the food. She doesn't give one fuck about you just your wallet so what's the point.By that logic, the sex isn't "real" either. She's just there for the money and doesn't give a fuck about you.
If the girl is a good actress, the sex will be enjoyable and having a drink, dinner, dance with her before, after, or in between sex can be enjoyable also.
And sometimes it may not be all acting and the girl may actually enjoy it a bit. Or she might be acting. Does it matter?
I was in Medellin recently for another mongering trip, and stayed at the Mansion. Usually, I split my sessions between Casa chicas and FB / Mansion chicas. This time, however, I spent practically all my sessions with FB / Mansion chicas. I came in with a list of a dozen FB chicas that I have seen before, were favorites and worth repeating with. In addition, I had another list of about 2 dozen new chicas that I wanted to see.
I ended up repeating with 6 chicas (some more than once), and seeing 9 new chicks. The dollar was strong, and the fact that I am a sucker for eye candy, probably influenced my decision.
I did visit Energy by accident, as a fellow hobbyist asked me to tag along. I was pleasantly surprised by their lineup. There were 20 girls in the lineup and all were decent. I ended up picking Isabela and was pleased with the session. In the past, I have not been too impressed with their lineup. I did not get a chance to visit my favorite casa, New Life.
Also, an ex-Mansion chica (currently suspended from the Mansion ground), wanted to see me and suggested that we go to Motel Ibiza, to which I agreed. A fellow hobbyist recently wrote a positive review about this motel. I concur, as I was very impressed by this motel. I ended going twice with this chick.
This motel is clean, high tech, very discreet, and reasonably priced. As the taxi entered the grounds of the hotel, my chick talked to someone via the intercom and she picked a room type. The person on the other side gave us a room number, and the taxi drove us there, dropped us by the door and left. Once inside, the outside door closed. My chick put on music, ordered food, and we raided the fully stocked refrigerator. When it was time, she called the office and had them start the Jacuzzi. I was impressed as everything seemed to work remotely. Moreover, I thought the food was very good, just like in a top parque Lleras restaurant.
We were there from 9 pm until midnight, both nights and the cost was reasonable, about $60 the first night and $50 the 2nd night, all inclusive, room cost, drinks, food, and tips. What's more amazing, I never saw a face, very discreet indeed.
The point is, he enjoys her company, not into the slam bam, duhhh, LOL...It's all in the attitude, and they're not all the same, that's for sure...If one doesn't like or want Jake's services, then ignore him and move on. I could care less if he charged $500 dollars an hour for a tour. If someone wants to pay that amount, good for him, and Jake, Lol.
Supply and demand will set his prices, simple as that. No need to get all huffy puffy and board bash, though this forum is never short of bashing for some reason.
Smile, enjoy, Happy holidays.Aah, the voice of reason, simple, logical, and very Cartesian. Voila! Thanks for the wisdom, Mr Ricker.
Mind boggling how folks insist on telling other people how to enjoy the hobby.
Charm City Dave
12-20-15, 05:13
I was in Medellin recently for an....Great report, thanks Lefeu!
LookingToSwing4
12-20-15, 14:18
Yeah but it ain't real. She is there for the money and the food. She doesn't give one fuck about you just your wallet so what's the point.You are correct Sir. It is always about the $'s and it is not real. I am not looking for relationship when I am in MDE, but I am looking for a good time and enjoyable memories. I have been traveling to MDE 4-6 times a year since 2009 (less visits recently). And I can, without a doubt, say that some of the best travel memories of my life are from MDE. And most of those were because Beautiful and Sexy Paisas were interested in going along for the ride. For me, those moments will not be found by staying indoors and sport-fu**ing the entire trip. If you notice in my comment, I did not mention what my companions were thinking and feeling. However, my comments did share what I wanted from the exchange. Again, simply stated.........We ALL "Roll" differently. And I am COMFORTABLE with how I Roll.
This motel is clean, high tech, very discreet, and reasonably priced. As the taxi entered the grounds of the hotel, my chick talked to someone via the intercom and she picked a room type. The person on the other side gave us a room number, and the taxi drove us there, dropped us by the door and left. Once inside, the outside door closed. My chick put on music, ordered food, and we raided the fully stocked refrigerator. When it was time, she called the office and had them start the Jacuzzi. I was impressed as everything seemed to work remotely. Moreover, I thought the food was very good, just like in a top parque Lleras restaurant.
We were there from 9 pm until midnight, both nights and the cost was reasonable, about $60 the first night and $50 the 2nd night, all inclusive, room cost, drinks, food, and tips. What's more amazing, I never saw a face, very discreet indeed.Motel Ibiza sounds like a nice alternative if I can't or don't want to take the girls back to my place. Is there a FB group or website where I can find the FB girls you're referring to? Or are they girls you collected throughout your mongering trips?
Thanks for the report.
C Jack Sparrow
12-20-15, 14:29
Aah, the voice of reason, simple, logical, and very Cartesian. Voila! Thanks for the wisdom, Mr Ricker.
Mind boggling how folks insist on telling other people how to enjoy the hobby.Amolatina.
LatinamericanLove.
A Foreign Affair (also owner of Anastasias or Elenās Models), but this FA is active in Colombia and Medelíand too.
I just saw a documentary about FA. They charge for translate services. They charge for everything. The normal price for any service is a 500% above what it should be.
A guy, good income, clean, but typically fat that americans can be. Anyway, he had send $US9800 corresponding with a girl that reminded of Angelina Julie.
He went to Ukraine on a FA tour and they vivisted like 4-5 places and some got it together.
But this guy was heart broken. The fantatsy-girl, 99% sure she had just got payed for publish her photos on AFA, while other, pretending being her corresponded with him.
As a documentary team was along, they managed to put her forwar and meet this guy, who must have felt being robbed of his whole world of love, erotics. She promised to blaha blaha.
AFA owner could hardly keep himself from laughing when the reporter told the story and come up with some easy, stupid excuse adding " we are sorry".
$US 9800.
I have been around since 1999.1 time I had a serious girl that I could talk to, without any fees for this and that.
Colombiancupid, Latineuro; they are serious sites, the are liberal in that sense that you can see that a hot girl in lingerie age 22 are seeking men 45-70 yo, so that's the way to say "Hello, gringo, I'm a prepago".
Colombia; you can have a date with a good looking girl after just exchanging whatsapp, for a cofee, lunch. After an hour, everyday! Russia / Ukraine is 99% rip-off.
And so much nicer everything. I thought of Russia / Ukraine, but the culture is not for a person that want to become more open, enjoy good climate.
Latinas, except Argentinas from BS As, not in the north, they are like Colombianas, you can meet them and have fun!
I think I put together a list of rip-off sites in LA, I come back about that.
It's so easy to forget that 50 mil pesos is much for 73% of the population that is poor, and it's a fortune for the 23% that live in absolute poverty.
Keep that in mind. I have meet girls who's family said " jack. We adopt you", I was in a deep depression. Other girls family saw me as Papa Noel and going shopping on my expense was almost the fisrt, and last thing we did, and we had had contact for months, often shyping for hours daily!
Look at statistics; We have the upperhand, we can practically choose, if you are like me, a middle-aged normal / good-looking guy with a normal 1st world income. Choose among 8's-10's!
I have broken many of my own rules; but TAKE IT EASY.
Those girls I have given contact info. To lately, not for a a single penny to myself, but just helping them finding clients that pay more, and give better service, since there is no boss or caa charging them 30-60% of their earnings.
But those girls are also novia-material; they want to mix being prepago, and have a novio. Just keeping the best clients. Or come to Northern Europe where escorts are very expensive, since we don't have the vast influx of Eastern European girls, like Germany. A Paisa+9-10 can become $US-millionare working here for 6 years.
Aah, the voice of reason, simple, logical, and very Cartesian. Voila! Thanks for the wisdom, Mr Ricker.
Mind boggling how folks insist on telling other people how to enjoy the hobby.Right on brotha!
Great Trip report!
Thanks.
LookingToSwing4
12-20-15, 14:48
Motel Ibiza sounds like a nice alternative if I can't or don't want to take the girls back to my place. Is there a FB group of website where I can find the FB girls you're referring to? Or is are they girls you collected throughout your mongering trips?
Thanks for the report.I totally agree. I had wondered what I would do if I was in MDE and had to stay in a regular tourist hotel, with limited guest options. This option is worth considering when you are in a hotel, but still want to go out and party. Take your girl to the Love Motel, early evening. Have a few drinks and some adult fun. Then hit the town until the wee morning hours. Go your seperate ways. I have found it good to "Hit-It" before going out because I am too drunk to do it before sending her home. LOL.
Charm City Dave
12-20-15, 15:40
Is there a FB group or website where I can find the FB girls you're referring to? Or are they girls you collected throughout your mongering trips?
Thanks for the report.I created a FB account with a pic but little personal info about me. Then just searched for girls in Medellin and found a few obvious prepagos. Then searched their friends and found more. Takes a bit of work but not that hard to do.
Now I have several dozen, but don't know which are any good. I put up a message that I'll be arriving in MDE 1/1 and they have started contacting me. I'll be there a little over a week splitting my time between Jake's and the Mansion. Will report back shortly there after. In the mean time if any SM has a FB girl they'd like to recommend, please PM me.
Black Page
12-20-15, 21:35
I have been around since 1999.1 time I had a serious girl that I could talk to, without any fees for this and that..You are not used to talk to them with the same style you write, aren't you?
James Dandy
12-21-15, 17:58
Only 27 years old, not sure what happened this time.
http://colombiareports.com/american-citizen-found-dead-in-medellin-apartment/
And this article with pics of building from minuto30, check out the comments:
http://www.minuto30.com/fotos-en-avanzado-estado-de-descomposicion-fue-encontrado-el-cadaver-de-un-ciudadano-estadounidense-en-hotel-de-el-poblado/418751/
Black Page
12-21-15, 18:51
And this article with pics of building from minuto30, check out the comments:Among all comments, this is one is particularly painful:
Los extranjeros que vienen a putiar y consumir drogas "baratas" se han vuelto una plaga para los habitantes de los edificios cerca a las diferentes zonas de rumba de Medelln. (...) El control que si debe ejercer la polica, (...) llevar un control riguroso y evitar estas tragedias para los vecinos. El extrajero sabe a que viene y aque se expone, pero los vecinos que invierten sus ahorros en su apto, le queda totalmente desvalorizado!!!! Por no hablar del desfile de "prepagos" en el ascensor y las zonas comunes 24 x 7....
Que verguenza. This is why upper class hotels never allow guests or do apply high fees. To keep away some types of tourist who are not discreet.
Among all comments, this is one is particularly painful:
Los extranjeros que vienen a putiar y consumir drogas "baratas" se han vuelto una plaga para los habitantes de los edificios cerca a las diferentes zonas de rumba de Medelln. (...) El control que si debe ejercer la polica, (...) llevar un control riguroso y evitar estas tragedias para los vecinos. El extrajero sabe a que viene y aque se expone, pero los vecinos que invierten sus ahorros en su apto, le queda totalmente desvalorizado!!!! Por no hablar del desfile de "prepagos" en el ascensor y las zonas comunes 24 x 7....
Que verguenza. This is why upper class hotels never allow guests or do apply high fees. To keep away some types of tourist who are not discreet.There has been a "Say no to Sex Tourism" movement and it keeps growing. After living there for 5 months now I see more and more of it. You can see how the locals look at the ones that come down there for short vacations have no discretion. As for devalue, there is the other side of the coin, the gringos are more able to rent out these apartments at a premium so these guys are not losing any money at all, in fact the I can see the money pouring into Medellin each day. I see more mercedes and bmw's. Driving by the local dealers you can see the dealers expanding their lots for the growth in demand. The key thing here is that the gringo's that come down have no and do not apply discretion at all. Colombians really excercise this but you need to have the girls come over in flats and not wearing anything that flags them as prepagos. They can tell just by looking and seeing how these girls act. Sad news to hear and I hope they find out the cause. Another thing to point out is that this is a very affluent area and soon the locals will not tolerate much more. Park Lleras is a streetwalking scene where last year you only saw a handful. The affluent will want some type of policing soon maybe by harassing the girls or some kind. It will happen, just a matter of time.
Among all comments, this is one is particularly painful:
Los extranjeros que vienen a putiar y consumir drogas "baratas" se han vuelto una plaga para los habitantes de los edificios cerca a las diferentes zonas de rumba de Medelln. (...) El control que si debe ejercer la polica, (...) llevar un control riguroso y evitar estas tragedias para los vecinos. El extrajero sabe a que viene y aque se expone, pero los vecinos que invierten sus ahorros en su apto, le queda totalmente desvalorizado!!!! Por no hablar del desfile de "prepagos" en el ascensor y las zonas comunes 24 x 7....
Que verguenza. This is why upper class hotels never allow guests or do apply high fees. To keep away some types of tourist who are not discreet.After talking with a lot of Colombians one thing I agree they have a big problem with classism. The elite Colombians don't want to be around Colombians that belongs to a lower estrato. If they somehow stay close they don't have a feeling of being better than the rest (elite) , that is probably one of the other reason upper class hotels charge more for guest, because I do know hotels in Medellin where high end putas visit all the time especially the gym.
I have talked to a gringo who told me his hotel neighbors girlfriend asked him why bring this low class ho to a hotel, here in Colombia we don't go to estrato 3 so don't bring them in ours. This gringo replied: Your country is lower estrato, I got more money than you and you are a piece of shit and slammed the door in her face.
Hilltopper
12-21-15, 23:43
For those who've been around and know Medellin-how long has it been since the last publicized social cleansing took place? Do you think the sex tourists who publically flaunt their prostitutes will eventually become somewhat of a target, or just their prostitutes?
Mr Enternational
12-22-15, 00:09
Que verguenza. This is why upper class hotels never allow guests or do apply high fees. To keep away some types of tourist who are not discreet.No it is okay. Prostitution is legal and it is their culture. Also it is nobody else's business anyway. And besides that, the neighbors can't tell the girl is a hooker.
Black Page
12-22-15, 00:19
No it is okay. Prostitution is legal and it is their culture. Also it is nobody else's business anyway. And besides that, the neighbors can't tell the girl is a hooker.I am not speaking about what is illegal, but about what is elegant and what is perceived as trashy.
Prostitution is legal, but upper class families do not like to have silicon dolls coming and going on the elevator of their condo. It's quite understandable. The quote in my previous post is not surprising.
Prostitution is widespread, but it does not mean that catholic families accept such coming and going in their austere neighborhood.
"Prostitution is their culture"?? I wish to report this claim to the catholic family fathers I frequent in MDE (for work), and see how they would react.
Discretion should be a must, but those who would most need this reminder are not receptive, so to speak.
Member #4393
12-22-15, 00:29
Among all comments, this is one is particularly painful:
Los extranjeros que vienen a putiar y consumir drogas "baratas" se han vuelto una plaga para los habitantes de los edificios cerca a las diferentes zonas de rumba de Medelln. (...) El control que si debe ejercer la polica, (...) llevar un control riguroso y evitar estas tragedias para los vecinos. El extrajero sabe a que viene y aque se expone, pero los vecinos que invierten sus ahorros en su apto, le queda totalmente desvalorizado!!!! Por no hablar del desfile de "prepagos" en el ascensor y las zonas comunes 24 x 7....
Que verguenza. This is why upper class hotels never allow guests or do apply high fees. To keep away some types of tourist who are not discreet.Word. This is also why almost every apartment building has disallowed short term rentals under 1 month. It is also why I made earlier comments about people kidding themselves if they believe they are blending in. Respect of the culture you are in is always paramount but unfortunately many foreigners don't get it and refuse to learn enough to understand why many Colombians have limited patience with gringo tourists. I have been unfortunate enough to have ridden an elevator up to the now defunct "penthouse" some 13 years ago with two girls and a very unhappy Colombian family. It was uncomfortable to say the least.
Word. This is also why almost every apartment building has disallowed short term rentals under 1 month. It is also why I made earlier comments about people kidding themselves if they believe they are blending in. Respect of the culture you are in is always paramount but unfortunately many foreigners don't get it and refuse to learn enough to understand why many Colombians have limited patience with gringo tourists. I have been unfortunate enough to have ridden an elevator up to the now defunct "penthouse" some 13 years ago with two girls and a very unhappy Colombian family. It was uncomfortable to say the least.Yup. While prostitution is legal (and widely-practiced) in Colombia, the Colombians do it discreetly. As you point out, bringing Strata 1 putas to a Strata 6 apartment building generally brings the kind of attention we don't want. The upper-class residents in Poblado are rightly upset about many mongers' antics and (like it or not) they have the political pull to do something about it. Always best to keep a low profile wherever we pursue this hobby.
Member #4394
12-22-15, 03:06
Yes they can. Just gringos can't tell that neighbors can and do recognize the hooker and her papi gringo.
And besides that, the neighbors can't tell the girl is a hooker..
It has been discussed at great length in many forums the need for people to respect the places they go visit. Most people do. They follow the customs and traditions of the locale they are visiting. However; due to the fact that our standard of living is superior in many ways to our hosts, many folk are blinded to the culture due to the fact that they have more money than their hosts. If they only knew how cheaply they can have one of us erased from the land of the living? Even under the best of circumstances it is hard to explain to a knucklehead that respect needs to be demonstrated wherever you go, especially if not in your home turf. Your hosts can be offended quite easily. Be in that you are bringing the wrong girl to the right club, restaurant, social scene, etc. I've heard some of the conversations they have about us and it is not something the Colombia Chamber of Commerce will like you to hear. We are rude beyond their understanding. Only bad things will eventually happen if we continue to be naīve to the fact that, we have money, we can do what we want and they are powerless to do something about it. Be careful out there and above al else, if we are going to have a good time, be DISCREET for Heavens sake. If you are not sure about the norms, ask someone that's been out there.
Yup. While prostitution is legal (and widely-practiced) in Colombia, the Colombians do it discreetly. As you point out, bringing Strata 1 putas to a Strata 6 apartment building generally brings the kind of attention we don't want. The upper-class residents in Poblado are rightly upset about many mongers' antics and (like it or not) they have the political pull to do something about it. Always best to keep a low profile wherever we pursue this hobby.
Bronze this, make it mandatory to read before you can see any other site content. This is so important. This site needs more content like this.
It has been discussed at great length in many forums the need for people to respect the places they go visit. Most people do. They follow the customs and traditions of the locale they are visiting. However; due to the fact that our standard of living is superior in many ways to our hosts, many folk are blinded to the culture due to the fact that they have more money than their hosts. If they only knew how cheaply they can have one of us erased from the land of the living? Even under the best of circumstances it is hard to explain to a knucklehead that respect needs to be demonstrated wherever you go, especially if not in your home turf. Your hosts can be offended quite easily. Be in that you are bringing the wrong girl to the right club, restaurant, social scene, etc. I've heard some of the conversations they have about us and it is not something the Colombia Chamber of Commerce will like you to hear. We are rude beyond their understanding. Only bad things will eventually happen if we continue to be nave to the fact that, we have money, we can do what we want and they are powerless to do something about it. Be careful out there and above al else, if we are going to have a good time, be DISCREET for Heavens sake. If you are not sure about the norms, ask someone that's been out there.
Member #4393
12-22-15, 04:43
It has been discussed at great length in many forums the need for people to respect the places they go visit. Most people do. They follow the customs and traditions of the locale they are visiting. However; due to the fact that our standard of living is superior in many ways to our hosts, many folk are blinded to the culture due to the fact that they have more money than their hosts. If they only knew how cheaply they can have one of us erased from the land of the living? Even under the best of circumstances it is hard to explain to a knucklehead that respect needs to be demonstrated wherever you go, especially if not in your home turf. Your hosts can be offended quite easily. Be in that you are bringing the wrong girl to the right club, restaurant, social scene, etc. I've heard some of the conversations they have about us and it is not something the Colombia Chamber of Commerce will like you to hear. We are rude beyond their understanding. Only bad things will eventually happen if we continue to be nave to the fact that, we have money, we can do what we want and they are powerless to do something about it. Be careful out there and above al else, if we are going to have a good time, be DISCREET for Heavens sake. If you are not sure about the norms, ask someone that's been out there.+1 to this post. Colombians from strata 1&2 are super polite people, think old time southerners. When they encounter the average gringo, it is offensive how we don't conduct ourselves with the typical politeness and formalities. Add putas and drunken parties to their buildings and you have a recipe for disaster. The post quoted below tells their real feelings, and you see similar posts under every gringo news story hat hits Medellin.
MedellinGringo
12-22-15, 07:38
No it is okay. Prostitution is legal and it is their culture. Also it is nobody else's business anyway. And besides that, the neighbors can't tell the girl is a hooker.Mr Enternational is right. Unless of course guys really are bringing strata 1 putas into strata 6 buildings. I thought those guys stayed in el centro to be close to the source.
But there is such a thing as situational awareness and often times the girl doesn't have to look like anything in particular. 9 times out of ten it is the gringo who looks like a monger that gives her away.
I have never seen a Colombian that lived in a nice building ever bring a short time girl to his personal living space. Colombians that have prepago girlfriends that they bring to their apartments are long term and stay TLN.
I shared a penthouse with another gringo that lives in Medellin full time and the only rule had was that I didn't bring more than 3 different girls into the apartment in any given week. Very easy for me because I stick with the same three women for months not weeks. Every now and then I lose one or switch one out.
Once again, I have to say use the love motels. This is the second best feature of Colombia. You definitely don't want to bring a steady stream of girls to your apartment, LOL. It's not safe either; sooner or later, you're going to get robbed by a chica.
My advice would be to split around 50/50 the girls you bring to your place and the ones you take to a motel.
As for the "catholic family fathers" I suspect many of them have fond memories of their mongering heyday, LOL, but yeah, discretion is key, although it seems Americans in particular just don't do discretion very well, too much cowboy in the genes I guess.
Mr Adventure
12-22-15, 09:54
Only 27 years old, not sure what happened this time.
http://colombiareports.com/american-citizen-found-dead-in-medellin-apartment/
And this article with pics of building from minuto30, check out the comments:
http://www.minuto30.com/fotos-en-avanzado-estado-de-descomposicion-fue-encontrado-el-cadaver-de-un-ciudadano-estadounidense-en-hotel-de-el-poblado/418751/One of the latest comments on from the first source,"According to local police he overdosed. No signs of violence in his apartment. Now on forensic exams". This was 2 hrs ago.
Who knows what he was in MDE for, but comments on a couple other forums suggest narco biz, guessing because of his age, and because his brother went to MDE looking for him after no communication in 3 days. ? It's also entirely possible that it had nothing with either.
James Dandy
12-22-15, 14:12
One of the latest comments on from the first source,"According to local police he overdosed. No signs of violence in his appartment. Now on forensic exams". This was 2 hrs ago.
Who knows what he was in MDE for, but comments on a couple other forums suggest narco biz, guessing because of his age, and because his brother went to MDE looking for him after no communication in 3 days. ? It's also entirely possible that it had nothing with either.But who overdosed him is the question? Did he do it himself, which is less likely on a Friday party night before the holidays that he was alone in his apartment, or did a guest of his put too much of the various knockout drugs used here into his drink? Whether or not he was involved in narco-trafficking has little to do with dying of drug use, users and sellers are two different breeds more often than not.
Colombia Jake
12-22-15, 14:46
One of the latest comments on from the first source,"According to local police he overdosed. No signs of violence in his appartment. Now on forensic exams". This was 2 hrs ago.
Who knows what he was in MDE for, but comments on a couple other forums suggest narco biz, guessing because of his age, and because his brother went to MDE looking for him after no communication in 3 days. ? It's also entirely possible that it had nothing with either.As I mentioned several weeks back two full time guys here got drugged and ripped off by a real smooth operator so you never know. Found out another almost full time guy tried to make a big score transporting from here to Australia back in September time frame. Didn't work out so well got 5 to 8 years! Lots of tours going forward and the new motorcycle is a lot of fun! New pics on the website of some places to go to get wet and fly!
Thanks,
Colombia Jake
Mr Adventure
12-22-15, 16:41
But who overdosed him is the question? Did he do it himself, which is less likely on a Friday party night before the holidays that he was alone in his apartment, or did a guest of his put too much of the various knockout drugs used here into his drink? Whether or not he was involved in narco-trafficking has little to do with dying of drug use, users and sellers are two different breeds more often than not.Yes, that is the question. I noticed, while surfing other non-monger forums, that almost on a weekly basis there is a report of someone being the victim of a knockout drug. Saw one report of a Mexican near Parque Llerjas 2 weeks ago. Make me think that for a person with limited experience like myself, probably shouldn't be messing w / indys unless they have been vetted.
I don't plan to ever try it but I have found that a person using is 42 times likely to have a heart attack. Something makes me think he could have been a casual or first time user with a health condition, and that no foul play was involved. Guess we'll just have to see what the cops come up with.
This apt building that was referred to as the "gringo house", it that a place that is well known us?
That apartment building is called the "Edificio Gauss". It is located the the corner of Carrara 38 and Calle 11 be. A few weeks ago, I was shown an apartment in that building. I found it on AirBnB and I looked at it as a possible place to stay on a future trip. I did not get the impression that many gringos rent there.
Look it up on Google maps. Use the street view and you can see what the front looks like. Then compare it to the pics in the news report: http://www.minuto30.com/fotos-en-avanzado-estado-de-descomposicion-fue-encontrado-el-cadaver-de-un-ciudadano-estadounidense-en-hotel-de-el-poblado/418751/.
I have never been to Medellin before and I am seriously considering going in February. I am not a cheap hotel guy (nothing against anyone who is--more power to you) . I like a little more comfort. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel that is guest friendly in Medellin?
Happy to swap my stories throughout Asia, Brazil, Costa Rica, etc.
Thanks.
I have never been to Medellin before and I am seriously considering going in February. I am not a cheap hotel guy (nothing against anyone who is--more power to you) . I like a little more comfort. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel that is guest friendly in Medellin?
Happy to swap my stories throughout Asia, Brazil, Costa Rica, etc.
Thanks.Check this Hotel, is not in the cliche Poblado but its a few steps from the train station that will take you right downtown in 2 minutes or el Poblado in 14 minutes whilst enjoying a European nice place, I have NO affiliation with them just a regular guest.
www.61prado.com
It has been discussed at great length in many forums the need for people to respect the places they go visit. Most people do. They follow the customs and traditions of the locale they are visiting. However; due to the fact that our standard of living is superior in many ways to our hosts, many folk are blinded to the culture due to the fact that they have more money than their hosts. If they only knew how cheaply they can have one of us erased from the land of the living? Even under the best of circumstances it is hard to explain to a knucklehead that respect needs to be demonstrated wherever you go, especially if not in your home turf. Your hosts can be offended quite easily. Be in that you are bringing the wrong girl to the right club, restaurant, social scene, etc. I've heard some of the conversations they have about us and it is not something the Colombia Chamber of Commerce will like you to hear. We are rude beyond their understanding. Only bad things will eventually happen if we continue to be nave to the fact that, we have money, we can do what we want and they are powerless to do something about it. Be careful out there and above al else, if we are going to have a good time, be DISCREET for Heavens sake. If you are not sure about the norms, ask someone that's been out there.I am a Colombian estrato 3 honest guy and I learned English by myself. You are very smart, thanks for your understanding of the culture here. If anybody wants to hang out with a clean strato 3 mechanic just advice, I can take you to some real local putas places LOL.
Merry Christmas dear gringos.
I have never been to Medellin before and I am seriously considering going in February. I am not a cheap hotel guy (nothing against anyone who is--more power to you) . I like a little more comfort. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel that is guest friendly in Medellin?
Happy to swap my stories throughout Asia, Brazil, Costa Rica, etc.
Thanks.If I am not mistaken Art Hotel is. But I guess all hotel are chica friendly some only charge you for extra guest. If your guest can sneak in without they knowing she is staying free.
LookingToSwing4
12-23-15, 13:15
Yup. While prostitution is legal (and widely-practiced) in Colombia, the Colombians do it discreetly. As you point out, bringing Strata 1 putas to a Strata 6 apartment building generally brings the kind of attention we don't want. The upper-class residents in Poblado are rightly upset about many mongers' antics and (like it or not) they have the political pull to do something about it. Always best to keep a low profile wherever we pursue this hobby.To me this whole topic makes me wonder why people even travel to Colombia, in the first place. If the only acceptable option is to stay indoors with your amiga, and to rent a room at a Love Motel when you want something more, why bother going to Colombia? By the time you add up the costs of airfare, transportation, apt or hotel rental, love motel costs, chica costs, etc, you could have just stayed home and had several escorts delivered to your place and slept in your own bed. I think the drying-up of short term apts has more to do with late night parties than it does frequent guests. I have been staying exclusively in apts since 2011 and have actually become friendly with some of the permanent residents in the buildings I frequent. They have told me, on numerous occassions, that it is the wild parties on worknights that they dislike.
I travel to Colombia to experience a place that is NOT like my home. Sounds like a pretty boring vacation to do otherwise. But if our actions of being seen in public are only escalating the citizens to close the borders / opportunities to visitors, then perhaps we should take our tousism dollars elsewhere?
Please do not misunderstand my post. I am as respectful as I can be when I am visiting another country. I am polite, curteous and generous with those I encounter. But I refuse to subscribe to the notion that seems to sugest we should hide ourselves from the local hosts. I have encountered just the opposite if you are a friendly person who is truly interested in Colombians as people. I have experienced this while solo, or with amiga in-tow. I have found it is more about the way you present yourself, than who you are with. If you come off like an "Ugly American", you will be treated like one. If you are friendly and kind, you will be treated with respect. I did however have one occassion, a few years ago, where a local Colombiano suggested I tell my date to dress a bit more respectable, next time we go out for dinner. He was right. I am now more concious of that even though it does not make me look any differently......LOL
Mr Enternational
12-23-15, 13:37
To me this whole topic makes me wonder why people even travel to Colombia, in the first place. If the only acceptable option is to stay indoors with your amiga, and to rent a room at a Love Motel when you want something more, why bother going to Colombia?
I travel to Colombia to experience a place that is NOT like my home. Sounds like a pretty boring vacation to do otherwise. But if our actions of being seen in public are only escalating the citizens to close the borders / opportunities to visitors, then perhaps we should take our tousism dollars elsewhere?What do you mean that you go there to experience a place that is not like your home? Are you saying you go because you can openly hang out with hookers? You are kind of talking in oxymorons. You complain that the locals don't want to see you with hookers and if it wasn't for the fun of dating hookers in public then you would go elsewhere. After that you speak of taking your tourism dollars elsewhere. Well they don't mind your tourist-tourism dollars; it is your sex-tourism and narco-tourism dollars that they are against.
For me, Colombia is a top destination to date regular girls. So that is pretty much what I do. Then for quick fun or if I am hanging with my buddies we do the casas and clubs where you can get service in-house. I have no desire to wine and dine a hooker. I use them for their primary purpose and keep it moving.
LookingToSwing4
12-23-15, 13:45
What do you mean that you go there to experience a place that is not like your home? Are you saying you go because you can openly hang out with hookers? You are kind of talking in oxymorons. You complain that the locals don't want to see you with hookers and if it wasn't for the fun of dating hookers in public then you would go elsewhere. After that you speak of taking your tourism dollars elsewhere. Well they don't mind your tourist-tourism dollars; it is your sex-tourism and narco-tourism dollars that they are against.
For me, Colombia is a top destination to date regular girls. So that is pretty much what I do. Then for quick fun or if I am hanging with my buddies we do the casas and clubs where you can get service in-house. I have no desire to wine and dine a hooker. I use them for their primary purpose and keep it moving.Nope. Different culture, different food, different climate. I am not there to date; not looking for a significant other. Nor did I mention complaining locals when I am out with my amigas. I mentioned the notion that others seem to have about being seen in public. I do go out of the apartment and my experience has been quite the opposite from others who have posted about this. I am just there to have fun. As has been previously mentioned, we all "roll" differently. You and I clearly "roll" differently. Sorry if I am messing-up your "turf"...............NOT!
I have once again realized the "caustic" nature of this board and the polar-opposite opinions that get traded back and forth. I think I will again retreat back into the shadows and simply use the information posted for my benefit rather than to share a differing opinon for others to consider.
James Dandy
12-23-15, 14:10
I did however have one occassion, a few years ago, where a local Colombiano suggested I tell my date to dress a bit more respectable, next time we go out for dinner. He was right. I am now more concious of that even though it does not make me look any differently......LOLThat is the point others are trying to make to you, if one Colombiano had to tell you, HUNDREDS of others have thought the same even though they didn't tell you to your face. Nobody said stay indoors all the time, but it's best to avoid being the old gringo acting all lovey dovey with an obvious young hooker out in public. It's a pathetic spectacle anywhere in the world, not just Colombia. People think the old john is stupid for loving a prostitute because it is soooo obvious to the locals in their culture.
As far as tourist dollars from mongers in particular, I don't think it's so important as you think, if businesses all over Lleras voluntarily put up signs saying "Say No to Sex Tourism". Notice the signs don't say "Say no to prostitution" (which would be a more sweeping message), and these type signs aren't found in Centro near the casas for locals, they are aimed solely at the foreigner. There is too much "legitimate" tourism and business in Medellin for them to care about monger revenue, in fact I'd say mongers will be the first to be the whipping boys when the time comes to clean house. Just look at articles in the local papers and the usual comments that follow, always knocking the creepy old gringos here for women, while we all know that 90% of the casa business downtown is local guys! In other words, prostitution is accepted in Colombia (thats why it's legal), it's how the typical old gringo does it that the locals don't like. It's the spectacle the locals want to avoid, it's something that is meant to be done in private in this culture.
Glad to hear you tuned up your game when the Colombiano mentioned it to you, sounds like you took the intended message and that's what is important. No need to retreat into the shadows, this is a solid discussion that should be addressed.
Mr Adventure
12-23-15, 15:10
I am a Colombian estrato 3 honest guy and I learned English by myself. You are very smart, thanks for your understanding of the culture here. If anybody wants to hang out with a clean strato 3 mechanic just advice, I can take you to some real local putas places LOL.
Merry Christmas dear gringos.Thank you. One of my careers was a licensed aircraft mechanic, so we have couple things in common. We could really use the opinion of a Colombian because no matter how hard we try to understand your culture, we will still always be gringos.
Other than being polite, respectful, and being properly dressed for both us and our date, is there anything else we should or should not do?
As some else has mentioned, most of the time we see many more Colombian men with a puta, in a restaurant than gringos with a puta. Are these Colombian men and their puta date frowned upon, in the same way as gringos with their puta date?
Sunday and Monday.
I managed to get booking at Mansion but it is Sunday and Monday.
But I learned on forum it is dead on Sunday and Monday.
Is it true these days or not.
Also do they allow to bring girls from outside.
LookingToSwing4
12-23-15, 16:07
That is the point others are trying to make to you, if one Colombiano had to tell you, HUNDREDS of others have thought the same even though they didn't tell you to your face. Nobody said stay indoors all the time, but it's best to avoid being the old gringo acting all lovey dovey with an obvious young hooker out in public. It's a pathetic spectacle anywhere in the world, not just Colombia. People think the old john is stupid for loving a prostitute because it is soooo obvious to the locals in their culture.
As far as tourist dollars from mongers in particular, I don't think it's so important as you think, if businesses all over Lleras voluntarily put up signs saying "Say No to Sex Tourism". Notice the signs don't say "Say no to prostitution" (which would be a more sweeping message), and these type signs aren't found in Centro near the casas for locals, they are aimed solely at the foreigner. There is too much "legitimate" tourism and business in Medellin for them to care about monger revenue, in fact I'd say mongers will be the first to be the whipping boys when the time comes to clean house. Just look at articles in the local papers and the usual comments that follow, always knocking the creepy old gringos here for women, while we all know that 90% of the casa business downtown is local guys! In other words, prostitution is accepted in Colombia (thats why it's legal), it's how the typical old gringo does it that the locals don't like. It's the spectacle the locals want to avoid, it's something that is meant to be done in private in this culture.
Glad to hear you tuned up your game when the Colombiano mentioned it to you, sounds like you took the intended message and that's what is important. No need to retreat into the shadows, this is a solid discussion that should be addressed.But retreat I shall. For one, I responded in an argumentative manner just like the ones I despise. That is just not who I am. Secondly, the nature of this board is for some to share their wisdom as if it is the only opinion worth considering. This comment is not just about my recent exchange, but the last several months worth of posts on this board. I have been traveling to MDE 4-6 times a year since 2009 and can honestly say there is NO one single approach to enjoy yourself.
I am curious to know if anyone has been turned away from a Poblado business because of this new tourism initiative? I have not visited for several months, so I have yet to experience such treatment. With that being said, when I am unable to take my Amiga out for a nice meal, it will be time to find a new place to visit.
RubMeister100
12-23-15, 16:15
Hi guys!
Long time member but haven't been traveling much so not contributing lately. But rest assured I will once I get back from my upcoming trip to Columbia! I'm also trying to sign up as a paying member but my Prepaid Visa gets rejected by the payment processor so will try something else.
After seeing Miss Columbia on the recent Miss Universe debacle, I want to finally go to Colombia to check out these beautiful women! And who better to ask than the experts in this forum!
So, like a good member, I've gone back 50 pages reading until my eyes bled trying to formulate a plan. But jeez there is a lot of non-report conversation to sift through. Not complaining, just apologizing in advance for asking the same newbie questions!
Thinking of going for the month of February and hitting Cartagena for the beach (and some less intense girl action) and Medellin for the serious girl action and to get to know this great city! Maybe just two weeks. Depending on a few work related obligations.
So anyone's advice on a plan is very much appreciated!
I am most attracted to lean, slim hipped women 18-21 and simply won't go with any women less than a 7. While I am very much interested in the person, I really P4P so I can be with ultra-hot looking 9+ women!
I like the idea of making the rounds of the high end casa's on foot during the day looking for the ultra-hottie, having a lunch / dinner somewhere interesting, then a strip club at night, again for finding the top end 9/10 girl for an hour or two. (Not a drinker but like great food).
Not interested in Street Walkers nor do I have delusions of finding love or seducing a "normal" girl due to my charm and wit!
I have good "game" but my Spanish is very basic. I am going to get intense on it and get a tutor here at home for the month. I really understand the value of speaking Spanish to get the best experience in a Spanish speaking society in general! Claro!
Accommodations
I am interested in spending the first few days / nights with Colombia Jake to get acclimated to the scene. Seems like a decent guy. Although ultimately I'm wanting a bit more privacy and my own bathroom so the shared apartment might get old after a few days. I also like the idea of The Mansion for a couple days for that scene.
There are plenty of apartments on AirBNB but I am not sure of the best location for my needs. I like the Poblano area for the possibility of English speaking expats / tourists and the business' that might speak English. But I wonder about the Avenida Oriental and Calle 46 area as there seems to be a concentration of casa's within walking distance. But I don't know if that is an otherwise good / safe area.
I am not too inclined to take pro's back to my apartment but would like the possibility if I connect with someone I might like to spend a few days with.
I am a Colombian estrato 3 honest guy and I learned English by myself. You are very smart, thanks for your understanding of the culture here. If anybody wants to hang out with a clean strato 3 mechanic just advice, I can take you to some real local putas places LOL.
Merry Christmas dear gringos.Thanks for joining the discussion. Aside from the relevant questions Mr. Adventure is asking I'm curious to know what you mean by 'real local putas places'. Maybe you won't be able to be very specific about this, but can you at least elaborate a bit on what you're referring to?
Thanks for joining the discussion. Aside from the relevant questions Mr. Adventure is asking I'm curious to know what you mean by 'real local putas places'. Maybe you won't be able to be very specific about this, but can you at least elaborate a bit on what you're referring to?Thanks for welcoming me. I meant places where you won't find any foreigner thus the behavior of this "putas" around and in bed is so different yet affordable. Real deal LOL.
Thank you. One of my careers was a licensed aircraft mechanic, so we have couple things in common. We could really use the opinion of a Colombian because no matter how hard we try to understand your culture, we will still always be gringos.
Other than being polite, respectful, and being properly dressed for both us and our date, is there anything else we should or should not do?
As some else has mentioned, most of the time we see many more Colombian men with a puta, in a resturant than gringos with a puta. Are these Colombian men and their puta date frowned upon, in the same way as gringos with their puta date?I am glad to hear you are an aircraft mechanic, my younger brother is just 19 and he is also an aircraft mechanic an puta chaser here at the local Medellin airport it seems both careers go hand on hand LOL. You mentioned the bottom line of being accepted: being polite, respectful and properly dressed go a long way when efficiently mongering down here. When those 3 items are well mixed your mongering experience will always work.
Cheers
Sunday and Monday.
I managed to get booking at Mansion but it is Sunday and Monday.
But I learned on forum it is dead on Sunday and Monday.
Is it true these days or not.
Also do they allow to bring girls from outside.You can absolutely bring in girls from outside. However, they will examine her ID carefully to make sure she is legal (which is a good thing for us).
On average, Sat, Sun, and Mon are slower days, but you really never know. I've had fantastic times on those nights, and I've seen it dead on Wed / Thursday / Fri.
You can absolutely bring in girls from outside. However, they will examine her ID carefully to make sure she is legal (which is a good thing for us).
On average, Sat, Sun, and Mon are slower days, but you really never know. I've had fantastic times on those nights, and I've seen it dead on Wed / Thursday / Fri.Thanks for reply.
In case there were no girls available at Mansion during my tour.
So what should I do as a plan be, from where I can bring girl to mansion as I like outcall only don't want to go to Casas as I don't speak any Spanish and also for security purpose.
Again thanks for info you are more than welcome if need any info from me about places I have visited.
Thanks for reply.
In case there were no girls available at Mansion during my tour.
So what should I do as a plan be, from where I can bring girl to mansion as I like outcall only don't want to go to Casas as I don't speak any Spanish and also for security purpose.
Again thanks for info you are more than welcome if need any info from me about places I have visited.Relax dude, just go there, it'll all work out when You get there.
Nino Bravo
12-24-15, 05:17
Mr Enternational is right. Unless of course guys really are bringing strata 1 putas into strata 6 buildings. I thought those guys stayed in el centro to be close to the source.
But there is such a thing as situational awareness and often times the girl doesn't have to look like anything in particular. 9 times out of ten it is the gringo who looks like a monger that gives her away.
Well having known you for almost 20 years I have an advantage over the members of the forum. You might want to share why you think you don't look like a monger. After all you are 53 years old, and though I haven't seen you since your recent plastic surgery, I'm not that convinced that you look took much different, especially knowing your body type. You've been pressing this issue for a few months now that despite being in your mid 50's that you in no way resemble a monger. So maybe for the benefit of those here who are curious, you could post some pics with some of your girls, of course blacking out that pretty face of yours. Hope to see you soon in Medellin.
That apartment building is called the "Edificio Gauss". It is located the the corner of Carrara 38 and Calle 11 be. A few weeks ago, I was shown an apartment in that building. I found it on AirBnB and I looked at it as a possible place to stay on a future trip. I did not get the impression that many gringos rent there.A few years ago, there were many gringos renting there long-term. I heard a reason why most moved out, but I don't remember the reason. I think it may have been a change in the guest policy.
C Jack Sparrow
12-24-15, 13:00
I have learned decent Spanish over the last decade.
Staying a week in Madrid, then taking Avianca direct flight to Medellin was very comfortable.
But as these two countries have same language, the backwardness in Medellin was very striking.
As a gringo you might behave stupidly and make and say some things and are not OK in Medellin.
But they do it all the time towards you! Note then that I love Medellin, and the paisas, but their view of the outside world, how to behave towards people from other countries, the slavery minimum-wage, the ignorance of even trying to learn some English or anything about the outside world is like I felt going back one hundred years back in time! Paisas are peasant's!
Gringos lack history, Colombians are ashamed of being indians/metizo so they deny their obvious heritage, but at the same time hate the Spanish conquistadores. That cultural condradiction is a thing Peruvians have delt much more with, while, if wanting to enter the global community as a modern society, people must have a realistic view of who they are. We Europeans are curious and interested about Colombias history, but their indian and african heritage is a "forbidden zone", don´t mention it. I don´t know about Barranquilla, maybe they are more open/realistic about it, since their famous carneval is all about the mix of the three races.
I would actually advice many guys not to go to Colombia at all, but to Thailand or Malaysia.
Well having known you for almost 20 years I have an advantage over the members of the forum. You might want to share why you think you don't look like a monger. After all you are 53 years old, and though I haven't seen you since your recent plastic surgery, I'm not that convinced that you look took much different, especially knowing your body type. You've been pressing this issue for a few months now that despite being in your mid 50's that you in no way resemble a monger. So maybe for the benefit of those here who are curious, you could post some pics with some of your girls, of course blacking out that pretty face of yours. Hope to see you soon in Medellin.Too funny Nino Bravo! Thank you for the laugh of the day! Merry Christmas to ya! Have a happy and safe Holiday Season!
Black Page
12-24-15, 15:34
Too funny Nino Bravo! Thank you for the laugh of the day! Merry Christmas to ya! Have a happy and safe Holiday Season!Grrrr!
You make me jealous. I thought your words in CTG were special for me. So disappointing to notice you say the same sweet words to two mates in two threads.
Mr Adventure
12-24-15, 16:49
I have learned decent Spanish over the last decade.
Staying a week in Madrid, then taking Avianca direct flight to Medellin was very comfortable.
But as these two countries have same language, the backwardness in Medellin was very striking.
As a gringo you might behave stupidly and make and say some things and are not OK in Medellin.
But they do it all the time towards you! Note then that I love Medellin, and the paisas, but their view of the outside world, how to behave towards people from other countries, the slavery minimum-wage, the ignorance of even trying to learn some English or anything about the outside world is like I felt going back one hundred years back in time! Paisas are peasant's!
Gringos lack history, Colombians are ashamed of being indians/metizo so they deny their obvious heritage, but at the same time hate the Spanish conquistadores. That cultural condradiction is a thing Peruvians have delt much more with, while, if wanting to enter the global community as a modern society, people must have a realistic view of who they are. We Europeans are curious and interested about Colombias history, but their indian and african heritage is a "forbidden zone", dont mention it. I dont know about Barranquilla, maybe they are more open/realistic about it, since their famous carneval is all about the mix of the three races.
I would actually advice many guys not to go to Colombia at all, but to Thailand or Malaysia.As always, your posts are a treasure chest of information.
Mr Enternational
12-24-15, 16:59
We Europeans are curious and interested about Colombias history, but their indian and african heritage is a "forbidden zone", dont mention it. I dont know about Barranquilla, maybe they are more open/realistic about it, since their famous carneval is all about the mix of the three races.
I would actually advice many guys not to go to Colombia at all, but to Thailand or Malaysia.Dude are you high again? It is the winner that writes the widely held history. If you want to know an accurate account of history try doing some research instead of asking a short time hooker. And it is "you Europeans" that should already know about Colombias history since you were involed in it and more than likely who were the ones that tried to erase their memories of it and make them feel ashamed of it. (See the movie Roots: My name is Kunta Kinte. Whip whip. No your name is Toby. Whip whip. Okay my name is Toby.) Newsflash: Barranquilla is in Colombia, so if you are making a sweeping generalization of Colombians then it would make sense that they would be included in your generalization as well or why even make the generalization at all.
I don't why you would recommend going to Thailand where the dark people are so ashamed of being dark that they wear hot clothes to try not to get any darker. And they advertise products to make their skin whiter. Or sure go to Malaysia for a good dose of religious persecution and inquisition-age laws.
And who gives a rat's ass about the outside world when they are struggling to feed their families and enjoys spending the spare time they may have with said families. The outside world is not going to do shit for them.
Member #4393
12-24-15, 17:10
Well having known you for almost 20 years I have an advantage over the members of the forum. You might want to share why you think you don't look like a monger. After all you are 53 years old, and though I haven't seen you since your recent plastic surgery, I'm not that convinced that you look took much different, especially knowing your body type. You've been pressing this issue for a few months now that despite being in your mid 50's that you in no way resemble a monger. So maybe for the benefit of those here who are curious, you could post some pics with some of your girls, of course blacking out that pretty face of yours. Hope to see you soon in Medellin.This is a rather funny exchange with one gringo insisting over and over he is special and somehow has the ability to blend in with society, while the other who knows him insists he doesn't.
I have lived in Colombia at times and have been traveling to Medellin before the mansion existed. When I lived in Colombia, everyone in my neighborhood and in the city was well aware I wasn't.
Blending. Still I made many friends and was treated well for the most part. I dress the part, speak Spanish, am in shape, and do pretty good with the ladies. However, as I walk down the street or especially as I sit in a restaurant with a 20 something girl, am well aware of the opinions of the local families around me. It doesn't bother me per se, but I am respectful and don't make a brash scene of myself.
When I go out I always try to be respectful of the local culture and the fact that people are going to be judging my actions by the fact that I am an extranjero. Contrast that to a table I was next to recently, about 3 miles from the Lleras area. Three overweight 50 something guys with their "girlfriends". All trying to shout over each other in broken Spanish, English and Spanglish about inane topics that they were mostly wrong about, followed by loud laughter. The girls were busy texting god knows who and taking selfies and generally looking bored. All of their tits were being advertised via the clothes they wore, no one else in the restaurant was dressed like them. One of the girls was at most 19. One guy had on flip flops with black socks, a dirty tee shirt, and shorts. Another kept talking loudly with very yellow teeth and food in his mouth and food on his shirt. The third was holding himself up as an expert on all things Medellin, Loudly. All three of them were unattractive and fat. The tables around them were all looking and then covering their mouths while they whispered to each other and shook their heads and fingers. The kids at these tables were told to not look in the direction of the gringo table. The fathers looked like they were being restrained from confrontation.
I wasn't just embarrassed to be an american, I was embarrassed to be a human.
MedellinGringo, I don't know you but I stated earlier in this thread self awareness is important in this game. Maybe you should just stop and think about this blending in thing, it really is a ridiculous. Maybe you are like me and know how to look and behave like a human in a country where you are a foreigner and have bothered to learn local customs and language, but you are still an obvious foreigner sitting in a restaurant with a local girl that is out of your social strata and out of your age group. The people around you are tolerating and maybe even appreciating your presence because you aren't acting like a gorilla, not because you are blending. Stop kidding yourself.
Member #4393
12-24-15, 17:22
Dude are you high again? It is the winner that writes the widely held history. If you want to know an accurate account of history try doing some research instead of asking a short time hooker. And it is "you Europeans" that should already know about Colombias history since you were involed in it and more than likely who were the ones that tried to erase their memories of it and make them feel ashamed of it. (See the movie Roots: My name is Kunta Kinte. Whip whip. No your name is Toby. Whip whip. Okay my name is Toby.) Newsflash: Barranquilla is in Colombia, so if you are making a sweeping generalization of Colombians then it would make sense that they would be included in your generalization as well or why even make the generalization at all.
I don't why you would recommend going to Thailand where the dark people are so ashamed of being dark that they wear hot clothes to try not to get any darker. And they advertise products to make their skin whiter. Or sure go to Malaysia for a good dose of religious persecution and inquisition-age laws.
And who gives a rat's ass about the outside world when they are struggling to feed their families and enjoys spending the spare time they may have with said families. The outside world is not going to do shit for them.+1 to this post. It is true that many Colombians are ignorant of their history and do not understand why they are catholic. It is not true that the less Spanish of them deny their Indian heritage.
However, most american are ignorant of our own history and do not understand why we are culturally Christians. This is nothing unusual. Mr. E is right about the victors writing history. They also subjugate the children to brainwashing of their version of history, and everyone reading this is a victim.
We live in a country where we are told our first president never told a lie, that American was discovered by a Spanish guy when 16 million people already lived here, That we were founded on a foundation of freedom when the truth is we came here and immediately stole the land, killed the inhabitants and started importing slave labor from Africa and China, denied rights to both blacks and women. Most of this is the opposite of freedom, unless you are a benefactor of the killing and enslaving, that is.
Colombians are not stupid, they have just been subjected to the same brainwashing as you and I. To pretend we are superior to them because they have been sold a lie. Hahaha.
C Jack Sparrow
12-24-15, 23:21
Dude are you high again? It is the winner that writes the widely held history. If you want to know an accurate account of history try doing some research instead of asking a short time hooker. And it is "you Europeans" that should already know about Colombias history since you were involed in it and more than likely who were the ones that tried to erase their memories of it and make them feel ashamed of it. (See the movie Roots: My name is Kunta Kinte. Whip whip. No your name is Toby. Whip whip. Okay my name is Toby.) Newsflash: Barranquilla is in Colombia, so if you are making a sweeping generalization of Colombians then it would make sense that they would be included in your generalization as well or why even make the generalization at all.
I don't why you would recommend going to Thailand where the dark people are so ashamed of being dark that they wear hot clothes to try not to get any darker. And they advertise products to make their skin whiter. Or sure go to Malaysia for a good dose of religious persecution and inquisition-age laws.
And who gives a rat's ass about the outside world when they are struggling to feed their families and enjoys spending the spare time they may have with said families. The outside world is not going to do shit for them.I think your aggressive, Patton-style bold response just shows that I hit a sensible issue.
I will give an example:
Buenos Aires: All people knows from which countries their ancestors came from, 2-3 generations back, rather exact; Grandpa was German, mother Egyptian, a mix-a social mosaic.
Peru; The family of Ana-Giselle in Miraflores, Lima, where all European, Spanish-looking, but said they where "mestizo". Which is 37% of the people, while only 15% is "white", which they could have told me and I would had agreed upon that. But Peruvians take pride that they once where the The Great Inca Civilization.
Yes, I know that Barranquilla is a Colombian metropol on the Caribbean Coast.
Medellin; After living there many times since 2009 I have heard their own discussion about where they originate from. Middle East, France, Galicia, etc., all except Colombia itself! The paisas, themselves being 1/2-Indians, treat the last "pure" Indians like the US do- people that live in small protected areas, while people with obvious Indians traits,( among them a lot of Pocahontas-style Beauty Queens) account for half of the Colombian population, maybe even more in Medellin, since Afro-Colombians are concentrated to the Caribbean Coast and Cali while Bogota and Bucaramanga have a relative concentration of the country's 37% white people.
Asking "paisas" where the ancestors come from, they just say " Colombia", even though a great part came during the last 50-150 years and they must know about it. They simply pretend not to know if they not are from (rich Western) Europe, or like my friend´s Colombian wife in Scandinavia, invents a history of "all but one where from Spain", and was annoyed when I took for granted that she saw herself as mestizo since she have typically Indian traits.
The other thing is that all bad that has happen in Colombia is due to the pure evilness of Spain and the Spaniards.
Paisas, along with many other Spanish speaking Latinos have this view; Spain and the Spaniards are the Bad Guys, while themselves then would logically be the victims, the original Indian people, or at least mestizos, but they often claim that they originate from Europe. It's offensive to (or it might be for humorless persons) to say they are Indians / mestizos.
We Europeans, at least in Northern Europe, Scandinavia, don't look down on Indians or Black people, the general attitude is curiosity among modern, progressive people, but many ignorant persons, maybe the majority, might just know that James is an Colombian football player, and Pablo Escobar was from Medellin. And that's it. Even icon Shakira is generally thought to be from Mexico or a US Latina.
Thus, please enlighten us about who you are, how did all this come to be. If Peru have made it, Colombia can too!
Colombia is Passion, and we want you to spread that feeling, share it, with us emotionally much restrictive people, it's medicine. Colombian everyday life is more fun than the weekends here!
Scandinavians are whining people, a very destructive form of envy! It is called "Janteloven" or "Jantelagen". If Colombians where like us, given the fact that only a few African countries have even more unjust distribution of family incomes, there would be a never ending civil war of envy that would dwarf FARC-war.
We need more of the american spirit of individual self-realization as well the Colombian Passion!
And that Passion just might come from the mix of people, the social mosaic. So, enlighten us!
Medellin is the heart of Colombian industriousness, while doing this transformation, without having lost the Passion, which often is the high price of the modernization.
Member #4393
12-24-15, 23:35
I think your aggressive, Patton-style bold response just shows that I hit a sensible issue.
I will give an example:
Buenos Aires: All people knows from which countries their ancestors came from, 2-3 generations back, rather exact; Grandpa was German, mother Egyptian, a mix-a social mosaic.
Peru; The family of Ana-Giselle in Miraflores, Lima, where all European, Spanish-looking, but said they where "mestizo". Which is 37% of the people, while only 15% is "white", which they could have told me and I would had agreed upon that. But Peruvians take pride that they once where the The Great Inca Civilization.
Yes, I know that Barranquilla is a Colombian metropol on the Caribbean Coast.
Medellin; After living there many times since 2009 I have heard their own discussion about where they originate from. Middle East, France, Galicia, etc. The Indians are a few people that live in small protected areas, but people with obvious Indians traits, among them a lot of (Pocahontas-style Beauty Queens) account for half of the Colombian population, maybe even more in Medellin, since Afro-Colombians are concentrated to the Caribbean Coast and Cali while Bogota and Bucaramanga have a relative concentration of the country's 37% white people..This has to be the grandest overgeneralization I have ever read. In fact very many Colombians identify with their Spanish heritage and harbor no ill towards the conquistadors (of whom I find repugnant), and many of the Colombians of indigenous blood are poor, and go to the ghetto in any country and ask for a detailed synopsis of their ancestral tree. Pfffffh.
MedellinGringo
12-25-15, 01:56
+1 to this post. It is true that many Colombians are ignorant of their history and do not understand why they are catholic. It is not true that the less Spanish of them deny their Indian heritage.It is quite difficult to find a Colombian that that will admit to even having any Indian heritage. The only question is are they in denial or just ignorant.
Member #4394
12-25-15, 02:22
Enjoyed reading the post. Thank you.
+1 to this post. It is true that many Colombians are ignorant of their history and do not understand why they are catholic. It is not true that the less Spanish of them deny their Indian heritage.
However, most american are ignorant of our own history and do not understand why we are culturally Christians. This is nothing unusual. Mr. E is right about the victors writing history. They also subjugate the children to brainwashing of their version of history, and everyone reading this is a victim.
We live in a country where we are told our first president never told a lie, that American was discovered by a Spanish guy when 16 million people already lived here, That we were founded on a foundation of freedom when the truth is we came here and immediately stole the land, killed the inhabitants and started importing slave labor from Africa and China, denied rights to both blacks and women. Most of this is the opposite of freedom, unless you are a benefactor of the killing and enslaving, that is.
Colombians are not stupid, they have just been subjected to the same brainwashing as you and I. To pretend we are superior to them because they have been sold a lie. Hahaha..
I think mr Sparrow needs a job.
C Jack Sparrow
12-25-15, 10:32
I think mr Sparrow needs a job.This are not solely my own thoughts and I'm not on drugs, it's based on academics, journalists, interview with locals, etc. And highly respected such, whom of some I know personally.
Please, can we have a serious conversation!
I don't mind if you are opposite, but stop calling me names, I have never attacked a debater / member here with insults.
C Jack Sparrow
12-25-15, 11:55
This has to be the grandest overgeneralization I have ever read. In fact very many Colombians identify with their Spanish heritage and harbor no ill towards the conquistadors (of whom I find repugnant), and many of the Colombians of indigenous blood are poor, and go to the ghetto in any country and ask for a detailed synopsis of their ancestral tree. Pfffffh.
I think mr Sparrow needs a job.My critique was right, wrong, overgeneralization, the Main Issue was; what can we learn from paisas (and North-Americans, since you guys are everywhere anyway), but just as a friend or beloved family member, you don't have to love every side of that persons personality.
What I love about Colombia is that people respect each others personal sphere and at least talk friendly and respectfully towards each other.
You don't have to feel anxiety over taking out a young girl to dinner (there are obvious social Laws of course, if you are 44 she is 22, I have never met an paisa that have had an issue with me, while at home even 40-30, can be socially stigmatized. Paisas respect your personal sphere! They mean Usted, when they say it! Gringos can't avoid being what they are, since they are "brainwashed" to be individual winners, and if not, you are a looser, what doesn't that say about a society, and the people that comes from it! Still I ask; what can we learn from the Americans, Canadians, and even the English, the self-proclaimed Masters Of The Universe.
In my view gringos are so cold that you never get a real friend among them, while I have a lot of paisa friends. For life!
Paisas, and other Latinos in other countries proclaimed, invented Spanish heritage, there badly invented stories, always ends up with that they come from anywhere but Colombia or Africa.
My Supercool friend, a Black Hot chick with a Ballet Dancers Body, which some of you guys must have met, maybe not had sex with, but certainly had out for dinner, she agrees with me 100%. She met new guys every weeks via dating-sites Cupid and Latin-, but far from always have sex with those guys. She take pride being black, while she says many of her friends tries to avoid, deny the whole issue. I also have have 2 other black female friends, both young successful academics, that work for Afro-Americans rights and both will become, the older already already are, influent in this debate. To make that progressive work efficient and leading to improvements, people have stop to invent that they come from Spain!
I state it again, The Peruvians have come much further with this, now it's paisas turn to modernize their self-view, which would of course will create new conflicts, but nevertheless are necessary. A country that big, with so extremely big differences between rich, middle-class and poor, are doomed to fail, if they don't claim there rights, just like Black People did in 1960's in the US!
I add that my intel comes from academics, journalists, interviews with Colombians, etc. And I know and have worked with those professionals personally and among the paisas, I have friends for life!
Combo, are you a one of those Mansion guys? I work in Medellin since 2009, in Latin America since 2003, while You live in a golden prison that brings in 18-why-o girls, many of course on drugs. You don't speak Spanish, they don't speak English, age difference is on average 33 years. Nothing wrong in that since it's many guys only chance to get some value of there hard earned $, but you can't teach ME!
Nino Bravo
12-25-15, 18:41
It is quite difficult to find a Colombian that that will admit to even having any Indian heritage. The only question is are they in denial or just ignorant.I'm surprised you would say that considering all of the years you spent in Cali. There are many people in Cali that have Indian blood in them. Some of the most beautiful women there have Indian blood and are referred to as "una India" or " La India". No one hid the fact that they had an Indian heritage.
Nino Bravo
12-25-15, 21:19
My Supercool friend, a Black Hot chick with a Ballet Dancers Body, which some of you guys must have met, maybe not had sex with, but certainly had out for dinner, she agrees with me 100%. She met new guys every weeks via dating-sites Cupid and Latin-, but far from always have sex with those guys. She take pride being black, while she says many of her friends tries to avoid, deny the whole issue. I also have have 2 other black female friends, both young successful academics, that work for Afro-Americans rights and both will become, the older already already are, influent in this debate. To make that progressive work efficient and leading to improvements, people have stop to invent that they come from Spain!Not to be too nit picky, but blacks in Colombia aren't referred to or considered Afro-Americans; they are Afro-Colombians, or of course in Spanish, Afro-Colombians.
Member #4393
12-26-15, 01:21
I'm surprised you would say that considering all of the years you spent in Cali. There are many people in Cali that have Indian blood in them. Some of the most beautiful women there have Indian blood and are referred to as "una India" or " La India". No one hid the fact that they had an Indian heritage.In his cryptic style he may be referring to paisas, and indeed most of them do not have native Indian blood. This is in spite of what he thinks. You can google the demographics of Medellin and learn that pretty much everything the paisas told Sparrow and that he rejects is indeed correct. It is a city of Spanish descendants and European immigrants. Here, I'll save the trouble.
According to figures submitted by the DANE census 2005. The ethnographic makeup of the city is:
Black, mulatto, Afro-Colombian or Afro-descendant: 6.5%.
Indigenous Amerindians: 0.1%.
No ethnic affiliation: 93.4%.
During the 17th and 18th centuries, Medellin received many immigrants from Spain. Most Indigenous peoples died from the introduction of European diseases, and many of those who survived intermarried with early Spanish settlers, who were mostly men; later, Spanish women also began to immigrate. During the 19th and 20th centuries, immigrants arrived from Lebanon, Jordan, Germany, Italy and Portugal. Many people from Medellin are referred to as Paisas, people of mainly Spanish ancestry, a lot of them Basque. There is a small Afro-Colombian and Zambo-Colombian (people of Indigenous and African descent) population.
Member #4394
12-26-15, 02:20
So is the result based on respondents' choice, rather than a scientific gene study on the sample of population?
According to figures submitted by the DANE census 2005. The ethnographic makeup of the city is:
Black, mulatto, Afro-Colombian or Afro-descendant: 6.5%.
Indigenous Amerindians: 0.1%.
No ethnic affiliation: 93.4%..
Member #4393
12-26-15, 03:10
So is the result based on respondents' choice, rather than a scientific gene study on the sample of population?.Well yeah, followed by historical information about immigration to the city and the decimation of the native population many years before. Admittedly far from perfect, but I think for now I'll take that over Sparrow's extremely loose narrative and comparisons to Peru. Medellin does not have a large native population. It is rather obvious.
Member #4393
12-26-15, 03:22
It is quite difficult to find a Colombian that that will admit to even having any Indian heritage. The only question is are they in denial or just ignorant.The Colombian native population has been so watered down and disbursed, along with a large percentage of the population self identifying with the Spanish, that I think many are indeed ignorant of the Indian in their heritage. Certain areas of Colombia have much more Indian influence like Cali and Cartagena, and also many of the poor regions and areas most of us don't go. Usually the native Indian blood is at least several generations old, and do really any of us know our entire genetic history outside of those of us who have sent off our DNA? (I haven't and don't know).
MedellinGringo
12-26-15, 05:28
I'm surprised you would say that considering all of the years you spent in Cali. There are many people in Cali that have Indian blood in them. Some of the most beautiful women there have Indian blood and are referred to as "una India" or " La India". No one hid the fact that they had an Indian heritage.They'll call any girl with long black straight hair "La India". I get the impression that the term is used more to describe the hair of a particular girl than whether or not. They actually think they have Indian blood in them.
Although my experiences are anecdotal. I have talked to numerous Colombianas that obviously have Indian blood in them that will say they are not Indian at all. Whether they are lying or really believe it is a mystery to me. Never cared enough to press them on the subject. I did ask one girl where she thought all the Indians went if Colombians aren't Indian. Her reply was simply. "I don't know".
MedellinGringo
12-26-15, 06:22
This is a rather funny exchange with one gringo insisting over and over he is special and somehow has the ability to blend in with society, while the other who knows him insists he doesn't.
I have lived in Colombia at times and have been traveling to Medellin before the mansion existed. When I lived in Colombia, everyone in my neighborhood and in the city was well aware I wasn't.
Blending. Still I made many friends and was treated well for the most part. I dress the part, speak Spanish, am in shape, and do pretty good with the ladies. However, as I walk down the street or especially as I sit in a restaurant with a 20 something girl, am well aware of the opinions of the local families around me. It doesn't bother me per se, but I am respectful and don't make a brash scene of myself.
When I go out I always try to be respectful of the local culture and the fact that people are going to be judging my actions by the fact that I am an extranjero. Contrast that to a table I was next to recently, about 3 miles from the Lleras area. Three overweight 50 something guys with their "girlfriends". All trying to shout over each other in broken Spanish, English and Spanglish about inane topics that they were mostly wrong about, followed by loud laughter. The girls were busy texting god knows who and taking selfies and generally looking bored. All of their tits were being advertised via the clothes they wore, no one else in the restaurant was dressed like them. One of the girls was at most 19. One guy had on flip flops with black socks, a dirty tee shirt, and shorts. Another kept talking loudly with very yellow teeth and food in his mouth and food on his shirt. The third was holding himself up as an expert on all things Medellin, Loudly. All three of them were unattractive and fat. The tables around them were all looking and then covering their mouths while they whispered to each other and shook their heads and fingers. The kids at these tables were told to not look in the direction of the gringo table. The fathers looked like they were being restrained from confrontation.
I wasn't just embarrassed to be an american, I was embarrassed to be a human.
MedellinGringo, I don't know you but I stated earlier in this thread self awareness is important in this game. Maybe you should just stop and think about this blending in thing, it really is a ridiculous. Maybe you are like me and know how to look and behave like a human in a country where you are a foreigner and have bothered to learn local customs and language, but you are still an obvious foreigner sitting in a restaurant with a local girl that is out of your social strata and out of your age group. The people around you are tolerating and maybe even appreciating your presence because you aren't acting like a gorilla, not because you are blending. Stop kidding yourself.Well I never said I blend in. Or that I don't appear to be a gringo.
I did say that if Colombianos are thinking the girl that is with you is a prepago. It is most likely the gringos fault and not the girls. I don't see many prepagos that dress or act in any particular way that would indicate they are a prostitute. If it weren't for the more obvious monger sitting next to her.
And for the few that would rather talk about me instead of the general discussion of what might lead Colombianos to think someone is a monger. I will say that I don't feel like Colombianos are the least bit offended when they see me out on a date.
First of all I don't think that the women I date are what most Colombianos would think of as a prepago. They are for the most part not surgically enhanced and a bit to thin to be considered top notch by most Colombianos. Although I have noticed that really thin women do better in Medellin than other parts of Colombia. Secondly I'm not so old or unattractive looking that it isn't a possibility that I couldn't date or attract the same quality of women by putting myself out there as a guy looking for a serious relationship. Not all women are looking for a P4 P type relationship with gringos.
Having said that I'm sure some Paisas probably do suspect that I'm a monger when I out with a girl,,, whether or not she is actually a prepago or just some chick I met on ColombianCupid who has no interest in P4 P.
Delta Indigo
12-26-15, 13:10
Hello,
I wonder how service compares in Colombia / Medellin compared to other mongering locales.
A guy I met in Germany told me that BBBJ is not standard in Colombia but most girls will do it for a small tip, is that right?
Are many of the girls willing to provide anal? I don't expect this to be as prevalent as Brazil, but was wondering if it is fairly was to get or non existent like in the Czech Republic.
Thanks.
Member #4394
12-26-15, 18:53
You see the actors and reporters on TV. They all look like Europeans indicating that Colombians want to believe that they are like them. Girls in Colombia always strive to look white and they like guys with white skin (who are not fat). I have heard that many white people in the USA Possess tiny portion of African and / or native American' blood, but they do not know and do not want to know about it. I am not supporting or rejecting this account, though.
The Colombian native population has been so watered down and disbursed, along with a large percentage of the population self identifying with the Spanish, that I think many are indeed ignorant of the Indian in their heritage. Certain areas of Colombia have much more Indian influence like Cali and Cartagena, and also many of the poor regions and areas most of us don't go. Usually the native Indian blood is at least several generations old, and do really any of us know our entire genetic history outside of those of us who have sent off our DNA? (I haven't and don't know).
You see the actors and reporters on TV. They all look like Europeans indicating that Colombians want to believe that they are like them. Girls in Colombia always strive to look white and they like guys with white skin (who are not fat). I have heard that many white people in the USA Possess tiny portion of African and / or native American' blood, but they do not know and do not want to know about it. I am not supporting or rejecting this account, though..I was disagreeing with what you said till after I saw miss Universe pageant they were calling Steve Harvey on twitter all types of and-words ape, subhuman, after he misread the cue card and crowned Miss Colombia as the wrong Miss Universe.
Delta Indigo
12-27-15, 03:37
Hi Guys,
No one answered, so I will ask again hoping for an answer. Is it really hard to get providers to provide anal sex in Colombia or is it relatively easy like Brazil?
I have a feeling it is hard.
Member #4393
12-27-15, 04:28
Hi Guys,
No one answered, so I will ask again hoping for an answer. Is it really hard to get providers to provide anal sex in Colombia or is it relatively easy like Brazil?
I have a feeling it is hard.These are real girls and a lot depends on you. You asked before about an up charge for BBBJ. That is a 'thing' only in the casas, and is how those poor girls have figured out how to hustle up about a couple hundred extra pesos a day. As for what they will or won't do, be advised that as a whole paisas are proud of their hygiene and disgusted by those with less hygiene than them so as it is said YMMV as to what you can accomplish here.
MedellinGringo
12-27-15, 05:19
Hi Guys,
No one answered, so I will ask again hoping for an answer. Is it really hard to get providers to provide anal sex in Colombia or is it relatively easy like Brazil?
I have a feeling it is hard.I would like to help you but I don't know the answer as I have never asked a provider for anal sex.
I have had a few that initiated anal sex without me asking for it. So out of all the chicks I banged including regular women. I would say less than 5% actually initiated anal sex.
And the sample size is well over a hundred. Hope that helps.
Delta Indigo
12-27-15, 17:59
These are real girls and a lot depends on you. You asked before about an up charge for BBBJ. That is a 'thing' only in the casas, and is how those poor girls have figured out how to hustle up about a couple hundred extra pesos a day. As for what they will or won't do, be advised that as a whole paisas are proud of their hygiene and disgusted by those with less hygiene than them so as it is said YMMV as to what you can accomplish here.Thanks for the answer, so I gather they don't have hard limits against anal. Do you know if many girls are willing to provide it if you are courteous and clean, in some locales girls are extremely reluctant to do it no matter what.
YMMV. If you are decent looking, have good hygiene, can speak a bit of Spanish, maybe you'll get your wish. But I don't really ask for anal either, and most do not provide it and will not consider it. You have a better chance of it if you can get with a girl you have chemistry with. Money talks but that doesn't mean they will be happy to let you stick it in her ass. If you want a destination where good looking women are up for anal, and you might not even need to ask then go with Buenos Aires. I'd say most of the chicas I have had there will be OK with anal. Medellin and Colombia in general, different story.
Thanks for the answer, so I gather they don't have hard limits against anal. Do you know if many girls are willing to provide it if you are courteous and clean, in some locales girls are extremely reluctant to do it no matter what.
Mr Enternational
12-27-15, 20:21
Why not just ask the girl before you take her instead of badgering the board on whether a puta who you have yet to even choose will allow anal? Asking guys on the board will not get you anywhere. We may say sure there is no problem with it then you get there and every girl you choose refuses. As they said, YMMV.
Delta Indigo
12-27-15, 20:56
YMMV. If you are decent looking, have good hygiene, can speak a bit of Spanish, maybe you'll get your wish. But I don't really ask for anal either, and most do not provide it and will not consider it. You have a better chance of it if you can get with a girl you have chemistry with. Money talks but that doesn't mean they will be happy to let you stick it in her ass. If you want a destination where good looking women are up for anal, and you might not even need to ask then go with Buenos Aires. I'd say most of the chicas I have had there will be OK with anal. Medellin and Colombia in general, different story.Thanks,
Your post finally answers my question. I know how to talk to and handle girls, I am very nice to them and etc. What I really wanted to know is how liberal the girls are sexually in Colombia and so on, are they anything close to Brazil or not. So all the discussions about hygiene and courtesy were a bit of the mark, but thanks to all of you for your answers. I prefer the German FKK scene and am occasionally curious about other locales.
Hi Guys,
No one answered, so I will ask again hoping for an answer. Is it really hard to get providers to provide anal sex in Colombia or is it relatively easy like Brazil?
I have a feeling it is hard.Hello Delta Indigo,
Anal; not really my thing. However, if you do some research in this thread, you will find some posters who have provided links to escorts in MDE. If you check out those sites, I know there is at least one where the scope of services is provided including "Anal", yes or no. This info would be helpful to reasonably guarantee the service you seek.
What I really wanted to know is how liberal the girls are sexually in Colombia and so on, are they anything close to Brazil or not. You really need to define what you mean by liberal otherwise everyone is trying to guess what the hell you're talking about. That girls will come over to see you is "liberal"; that they will kiss is "liberal"; that they- most of the time- give BBBJ is "liberal"; that their culture and laws allow girls to use their bodies to make money is "liberal". There is nothing really liberal or liberated about a guy put his schlong up a girl's dirty butthole and you won't find many girls in Colombia that are willing. In short, if anal sex is what you're looking for or hope to find Colombia will disappoint you, so don't go.
Went all the way and the door is locked. Don't see any bell and it seems closed today. Have to explore other options.
Member #4394
12-28-15, 01:10
Sunday. Catholic country. Gringo.
Went all the way and the door is locked. Don't see any bell and it seems closed today. Have to explore other options.
Hey,
Is there a Hotel like the one Aussie Greg used to run-.
Looking for decent hotel where chicas come and go.
Black Page
12-28-15, 11:04
Hey,
Is there a Hotel like the one Aussie Greg used to run-.
Looking for decent hotel where chicas come and go.I like this post. Happy new year.
Hey,
Is there a Hotel like the one Aussie Greg used to run-.
Looking for decent hotel where chicas come and go.Unbelievable. He must be joking.
I have bored of the DR and crave for something new. I have seen that flight prices to Medellin are not too bad so I perused ISG to see how is the P4 P scene there. I have to say I am a bit nervous about going to Medellin because of all of the drug stories you here. Killings, robberies. You know Pablo Escobar type things. I do not and never will use or have anything to do with illegal substances. But has anyone found themselves concerned about this when visiting Medellin?
Second, as always, I am curious about how blacks are treated when visiting working girls. Yes I know a small part of the population in Colombia is black. But how will the SW and massage parlor ladies etc treat you (I. E. A Black American)?
As far as mongering goes a quick look at the forum seems to indicate the girls are in houses in lineup type situations. Are there any SW (I enjoy them more sometimes) or are MP and houses the only route? Can anyone point me to a Report of Distinction that can help me determine where to go?
Also you can only do so much mongering in a day. So I like to go to places where you can do other things in the place you are mongering. However it seems Medellin is devoid of anything to do (I looked at TripAdvisor). If this statement is untrue can someone point me to some non mongering activities?
Thanks.
Showdown.
I have bored of the DR and crave for something new. I have seen that flight prices to Medellin are not too bad so I perused ISG to see how is the P4 P scene there. I have to say I am a bit nervous about going to Medellin because of all of the drug stories you here. Killings, robberies. You know Pablo Escobar type things. I do not and never will use or have anything to do with illegal substances. But has anyone found themselves concerned about this when visiting Medellin?
Second, as always, I am curious about how blacks are treated when visiting working girls. Yes I know a small part of the population in Colombia is black. But how will the SW and massage parlor ladies etc treat you (I. E. A Black American)?
As far as mongering goes a quick look at the forum seems to indicate the girls are in houses in lineup type situations. Are there any SW (I enjoy them more sometimes) or are MP and houses the only route? Can anyone point me to a Report of Distinction that can help me determine where to go?
Also you can only do so much mongering in a day. So I like to go to places where you can do other things in the place you are mongering. However it seems Medellin is devoid of anything to do (I looked at TripAdvisor). If this statement is untrue can someone point me to some non mongering activities?
Thanks.
Showdown.I suggest you read through this thread, you'll find answers to your questions. Maybe go back like 50 pages and work your way through to today. Not too long ago there was a reference to some posts with a comparison between DR and MDE.
I haven't been to MDE yet, but I'm prepping and reading through this thread and talking to some guys who know MDE (one of them is a young black guy).
- Do not worry about drug stories, robberies etc. Apply logic and care as you would do in other major south american cities
- If you're a well groomed / dressed black gentleman (especially if you're young) you're set for a good time. You may even have an advantage on the regular gringos
Check out Jubril's video touching on topics like black people in Mede. He doesn't necessarily talk about mongering, but it may give you an idea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWBnGl0lo9s.
James Dandy
12-28-15, 16:35
I suggest you read through this thread, you'll find answers to your questions. Maybe go back like 50 pages and work your way through to today. Not too long ago there was a reference to some posts with a comparison between DR and MDE.
I haven't been to MDE yet, but I'm prepping and reading through this thread and talking to some guys who know MDE (one of them is a young black guy).
- Do not worry about drug stories, robberies etc. Apply logic and care as you would do in other major south american cities
- If you're a well groomed / dressed black gentleman (especially if you're young) you're set for a good time. You may even have an advantage on the regular gringos
Check out Jubril's video touching on topics like black people in Mede. He doesn't necessarily talk about mongering, but it may give you an idea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWBnGl0lo9s.Dellorto clearly doesn't know anything about Medellin from his comments as well as the fact he's never been here. Blacks will not have an advantage in this culture under any circumstances. While Colombians don't treat others rudely, people generally try to keep to their own, and especially much more than in places like the US. That not only applies to races but economic strata as well, you won't find a rich colombian guy with a barrio chick no matter how much he loves pussy.
Why one would need "an advantage" in a casa picking a hooker is beyond me. The only advantage you need is $12. What is more likely to happen than being treated rudely is that some of the girls will not present themselves when they peek through the door and see a black man, this has happened on more than one occasion with friends of mine. But don't despair bc there will always be a few that don't mind and you will find service.
As far as going to clubs and picking up non-pros, that's a real distant long shot (almost none), and bringing a thug like attitude would only make it several degrees worse, if you happen to be that type or attitude. If you treat people properly they will do the same, but this isn't the US or Europe where they cherish mixing races above all else. In fact, if you ask ANY girl if she likes black men (besides a black girl), they will always say NO and give a sour face, even if they might actually. There is also saying Colombians use (on TV, movies, etc) "mejorar la raza", which means "improve the race", referring to mixing with whites as being positive (google it). They even sell products to bleach skin here. Take from that what you will.
For example, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maria-alejandra-casalehardin-/mejorar-la-raza-an-exampl_b_7558892.html
And it isn't just Colombia, but most of South America (except Brazil). Girls don't even lay out to tan bc they perceive dark skin as a lower social strata.
Colombia does have some super hot black girls, too, and I can't imagine they would think the same.
Member #4394
12-28-15, 16:49
I suggest asking for the opinion of African American guys who have been to Medellin. You know what I am talking about. Great majority of the members here are white, some of them have not been to Medellin.
I have bored of the DR and crave for something new. I have seen that flight prices to Medellin are not too bad so I perused ISG to see how is the P4 P scene there. I have to say I am a bit nervous about going to Medellin because of all of the drug stories you here. Killings, robberies. You know Pablo Escobar type things. I do not and never will use or have anything to do with illegal substances. But has anyone found themselves concerned about this when visiting Medellin?
Second, as always, I am curious about how blacks are treated when visiting working girls. Yes I know a small part of the population in Colombia is black. But how will the SW and massage parlor ladies etc treat you (I. E. A Black American)?
As far as mongering goes a quick look at the forum seems to indicate the girls are in houses in lineup type situations. Are there any SW (I enjoy them more sometimes) or are MP and houses the only route? Can anyone point me to a Report of Distinction that can help me determine where to go?
Also you can only do so much mongering in a day. So I like to go to places where you can do other things in the place you are mongering. However it seems Medellin is devoid of anything to do (I looked at TripAdvisor). If this statement is untrue can someone point me to some non mongering activities?
Thanks.
Showdown.
Dellorto clearly doesn't know anything about Medellin from his comments as well as the fact he's never been here. Blacks will not have an advantage in this culture under any circumstances. While Colombians don't treat others rudely, people generally try to keep to their own, and especially much more than in places like the US. That not only applies to races but economic strata as well, you won't find a rich colombian guy with a barrio chick no matter how much he loves pussy.
Why one would need "an advantage" in a casa picking a hooker is beyond me. The only advantage you need is $12. What is more likely to happen than being treated rudely is that some of the girls will not present themselves when they peek through the door and see a black man, this has happened on more than one occasion with friends of mine. But don't despair bc there will always be a few that don't mind and you will find service.
As far as going to clubs and picking up non-pros, that's a real distant long shot (almost none), and bringing a thug like attitude would only make it several degrees worse, if you happen to be that type or attitude. If you treat people properly they will do the same, but this isn't the US or Europe where they cherish mixing races above all else. In fact, if you ask ANY girl if she likes black men (besides a black girl), they will always say NO and give a sour face, even if they might actually. Take from that what you will.
Colombia does have some super hot black girls, too, and I can't imagine they would think the same.I want to add that I'm not only referring to mongering, but also at hooking up with normal girls. Off course mongering requires dollars, that is your only advantage if any. My guy spent a year in Medellin. Being a young black (light skinned) guy didn't prove to be an obstacle at all, on the contrary, he supposedly had a great time with both working and non working girls. But let's be clear: I would much rather share my own personal experiences that I have yet to harvest. You're absolutely right that I have not been to Medellin yet.
BTW, it isn't clear to me why you would say something like "bringing a thug like attitude". No one is talking about thugs. Why would you say that?
You are correct when you say that I do not know anything about Medellin. All I have to go on is experiences of other people, and some Paisas I hit outside of Colombia. And yep, I saw some hesitance and rejection towards certain black gentlemen from Colombianas there. In my opinion those guys had some 'inconsistencies' in their personal hygiene and the way they dressed wasn't up to normal standards. And because unfortunately this was the case with more dark skinned gentlemen there (some locals) plus the fact that they often have less deep pockets than their white brothers, the girls tend to focus on white (older) gringos. So I'll give you that.
However, I travel with a mixed group of six, some of us are black (dark and light skinned). Never had one single problem with Colombianas in the brothel we frequented with girls from Cartagena, Pererra, Medellin, Bogota and Cali. Maybe it's because of the fact that they are working abroad, but I have a feeling that we won't have any problems in Medellin either.
So far the most important thing for us has been that you dress the part, are well groomed, and are polite and respectful. Speaking the language and having a sense of humor also helps.
I do believe that not all cities/countries have the same tolerance towards black people, but I refuse to believe that your skin colour will work against you in Medellin if you're that guy, as described above.
I guess we'll find out when we tear through Mede in a polite matter :)
C Jack Sparrow
12-28-15, 17:48
In his cryptic style he may be referring to paisas, and indeed most of them do not have native Indian blood. This is in spite of what he thinks. You can google the demographics of Medellin and learn that pretty much everything the paisas told Sparrow and that he rejects is indeed correct. It is a city of Spanish descendants and European immigrants. Here, I'll save the trouble.
According to figures submitted by the DANE census 2005. The ethnographic makeup of the city is:
Black, mulatto, Afro-Colombian or Afro-descendant: 6.5%.
Indigenous Amerindians: 0.1%.
No ethnic affiliation: 93.4%.
During the 17th and 18th centuries, Medellin received many immigrants from Spain. Most Indigenous peoples died from the introduction of European diseases, and many of those who survived intermarried with early Spanish settlers, who were mostly men; later, Spanish women also began to immigrate. During the 19th and 20th centuries, immigrants arrived from Lebanon, Jordan, Germany, Italy and Portugal. Many people from Medellin are referred to as Paisas, people of mainly Spanish ancestry, a lot of them Basque. There is a small Afro-Colombian and Zambo-Colombian (people of Indigenous and African descent) population.ĄYa! Yet, this is Medellin. I got my numbers from CIA Worldfactbook. And is was the the country average. (This part of the controversial organization is in fact very neutral and their facts are in line what other institutions report).
First of all; is this what people state themselves, because my whole point is based on that The Big Denial. If it's "genetically true", then you got me, and I must surrender, however not without certain conditions. This is a non-controversial problem. In the US; many persons prefer "white", while this can lead to mistreatment in medical terms. Some diseases and allergies exist among, for example Asians, but not among whites. Black females have much lower degree of breast-cancer than white females etc. , etc. That has led to a mix-max situation, about / whether which treatment is the right or most accurate for an individual. Emergency cases are of course very sensible, while in long-term treatment this can be sorted out. The same problem should logically exist in Colombia and Medellin!
Secondly. Only in the very south of Spain you find dark people, girls that look like Pocahontas, but who's heritage is from there, Morocco or other parts of the then Ottoman Empire. (Due to having Turkish passports, Arabs in Arequipa, Peru, where referred to "LOS Turcos", I even had a close friend far up in Costa Rica that called Arabas "LOS turcos", comparing the invasion of CR has of "Nicos", poor Nicaraguans.
But in the rest of Spain people looks, in my opinion. Blha-blha-blaha, like portenas in Buenos Aires. The striking difference in beauty between Spanish girls and Colombian girls came very late for me, 2014. From Copenhagen I travelled with Iberia. Stayed in Madrid 3 days. Then I went to the airport. The girls in the Avianca reception where much prettier, darker hair, eyes. The "azafatas, where like paisas, Pocahontas beautiful, but of course I agree, there are a lot of Spanish blaha-looking people in Medellin. My X novia, now a MFC-star and available to you guys. She will meet you in real life, but not have sex just like that. She wants to get $ by "guapos gringos". I. e. She choose her own victims! You can get her contact-info. She is a 9, maybe a 10. She is marriage material, even if she very young.
She is also crazy, which is normal in Medellin. My Spanish teacher at UPB, used his position to get away from the possessive and jealous paisas. He prefers "our" girls! More rational, modern. Doesn't have to ask permission from mum, if you can be your sweetheart paisa novio oficial".
I bet 100 $US that the " No ethnic affiliation: 93.4%. ", is self-proclaimed / choosen in the survey. It rather shows that my argument hold; denial of the obvious! It is a way to high figure to be realistic! 93.4%! The national average of whites are very close to 50%, but I think 60-70% are mestizos!
Many girls dye their hair, even body-hair blonde. Many wear blue or green contacts.
TTP, you have skills and I respect you.
I state again; in Buenos Aires, people just are from Europe, and know when and where their family came to Argentina. In Medellin people don't know, just "from Colombia". A side-track; One guy, claimed to be part of the Pitti family, expelled from Europe by the Medici family, 4 guys, the last Pittis escaped to Panama (which then was a part of Spain or later Colombia). Just a little side-story, since they called him my twin-brother with his Nordic appearance. He is at a small pub on Calle49 b (but he is "tacano", he will try you to make to pay the whole bill, so I avoid him), in front of a little park, on the other side is the Apartmenthotel Montes, which is full of Latin& foreign businessmen bringing in girls that where. Waaaoooo! One guy even had what me and my paisa friend to 99% considered to be twin sisters at his table in pure daylight! And they where 18-20 and +9's to 10's. I admit, I became very jealous! How, where do they come across such beauties! I mean, that you MUST STARE, just out of the stunning effect their elegance and beauty, sensuality. And this place is not expensive. Apartahotel Montes, it's worth checking out, since from there you have close access to metro, a fast taxi ride to "all" of Medellin. It's part of Estadio barrio, which is undervalued by "us" mongers. 5-10 minutes walk and you are on Cra. 74 and Energy, on the other side of the Cra 74 is the Estadio itself, among many sports to performe, here is a big tennis-club, which you can join and play with monitors, students, 10-15 mil pesos for 45 minutes and they are the talented one's at the Club! The Club's members are Estrato 4-6. They will ask you to play with them. A month's membership is like 100 mil pesos and for 45 minutes it's 10-20% of what we pay in US / Western Europe. The clay is hard though due to the intense hard rain, but dry up very quickly. The +1500 meters altitude request for balls and rackets, being adjusted for that altitude.
My X-novia, the MFC-babe, is a Pocahontas. Her mother though is Spanish looking-blaha with green eyes. So races, ethnic groups pop up within families! All of them in one family! Genes are tricky, popping up in an atavistic, unpredictable way.
Then I must add; I was unfair to the gringos. Many of the absolutely best people I have met in my life are Americans! But there a lot of egoistic "groceros" persons that verify the bad view of the gringos. But of course, my argument was much of a generalization, The US is of course much more of a continent that just "a country".
Among ordinary people this nowadays have a minor, constantly diminishing importance, impact. The impact for governing the country's main institutions, both private and public are though another thing. Spanish, or might I say, Spanish and Creole persons dominate to 99%!
"Blancas" are dominating, as You say, among The Beautiful-people Elite.
I put so strong emphasis of this since my country is considered very tolerant and Scandinavia is a model for the rest of the world; fair distribution of incomes, no racism, female have close to 50-50 influence and incomes. And since the 60's we are sexually liberated!
In fact it is a much more intolerable society in real life. Institution take care of Syrians, Afghan, Iraq, Iran & Palestine people; they make a terror attack, you bomb them back to the stone-age, then they come to us and live like an outcast. Muslims simply doesn't fit in a society that are secular.
FB-babes. I have some 400-500 FB friends and most of them are semi-prepagos I have never met, and never will, since they come to my apartment on a high and the risk for a scandal is destroying the whole session. At least 50% are Pocahontas, maybe 60-70%. They are of course mestizos!
Whites being 93.4% in Medellin. That is a number that just reflect my argument; Deal with it! Be proud of your own history, your own blood, just like the Peruvians have managed to do since the elections 1990, when the transformation there started!
The sex-tourism and the Post order wife, etc, the whole thing is a moral issue. But in fact, the brightest persons in world history have a strong over-representation of ethnically mixed persons!
I can see that the process has started; "The only risk going to Colombia, is that you might never want to leave". 88.88% true in my case! Minimum-wage and maximum working-hours are in-human, it's slavery!
What is interesting and create that "feel-good" sensation is that people live here and now. We are preoccupied with the future of our massive investments in property and curling our children.
Now I owe the thread of P4 P, prepago advice, etc, since we came of topic. I will go back to my normal state of crazy pirate, cazando / chaseing young paisas ASAP!
All good, but controversial, Energy!
Yes, Nino Bravo, I you are right, it is Afro-Colombian.
We now take a brake! We continue in March / April, not before. PM or other forums are OK. I got off-topic.
I will compensate with new P4 P information.
RubMeister100
12-28-15, 18:38
Sildenafil and other prescription medications in Colombia?
From Black Page's post below it is a bit unclear to me whether the price is 7000 pesos each pill, or each box of 4? Can you clarify this Black Page? Or can anyone else share more recent, or specific pricing on a per pill basis. Thanks.
Also, with regards to other "prescription" medications and the law in Colombia.
Are antibiotics available over the counter without a prescription?
What about other "controlled" medications such as sleeping medications like Ambien?
And if not, what might be the price to visit a Doctor or clinic to obtain a Dr. Rx for such medication.
Thanks!
Any farmacy. See my other post about quality. If you buy in quantity, you might want to inquiry a few ones to get the best price.
I usually go to La Rebaja in front to the Parque Poblado, which always offered me better prices and wider choice than the Pasteur in front. I don't say this is the best place. I say: ask in few places before buying many.
Last time I bought 15 boxes 4 x50 MG pills, at a price around 7000 pesos each (I might not remember well, though). In my country, it's not so easy! I prefer Genfar over MK or other generic made-in-Colombia products, for a simple reason: the 4 x50 MG box contains ONE blister including 4 pills, instead of FOUR blisters each carrying one pill. Much more compact and easy to store.
Black Page
12-28-15, 18:55
From Black Page's post below it is a bit unclear to me whether the price is 7000 pesos each pill, or each box of 4?
Also, with regards to other "prescription" medications and the law in Colombia.Do the math: 7000 COP (2 EUR) per pill wouldn't be too expensive? It was actually less than 7000 per box.
For other medications, Colombia is not the Far West, so I'd say it depends on the kind of medication.
Mr Enternational
12-28-15, 19:24
Dellorto clearly doesn't know anything about Medellin from his comments as well as the fact he's never been here. Blacks will not have an advantage in this culture under any circumstances. Showdown was not asking about an advantage. He was only asking if he would be treated badly.
Why one would need "an advantage" in a casa picking a hooker is beyond me. The only advantage you need is $12. What is more likely to happen than being treated rudely is that some of the girls will not present themselves when they peek through the door and see a black man, this has happened on more than one occasion with friends of mine. But don't despair bc there will always be a few that don't mind and you will find service.I have never seen this happen in Colombia. And out of the 100+ countries that I have been to, it has only happened in Singapore and Indonesia. But the reason why it happened in those places was that the hookers or papasans thought that Black guys' dicks were too big. "There will always be a few that don't mind"? LOL. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
As far as going to clubs and picking up non-pros, that's a real distant long shot (almost none), and bringing a thug like attitude would only make it several degrees worse, if you happen to be that type or attitude. If you treat people properly they will do the same, but this isn't the US or Europe where they cherish mixing races above all else. In fact, if you ask ANY girl if she likes black men (besides a black girl), they will always say NO and give a sour face, even if they might actually.What the fuck dude? Thug like attitude? If an Italian came on this board and asked the same thing would you tell him not to bring a mafia-like attitude? And where the hell did you get the rest of this from? You are showing up with second and third hand hearsay. Well I am here with first hand experience. I am Black American and I have been going to Colombia for 11 years with over 50 trips. I have been to Bogota, Cali, Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, and Medellin. I can count all the hookers that I have fucked there on my hands and feet. For me, Colombia is for non-pros. I have no problem picking up normal women in Colombia. I have dealt with doctors, lawyers, students, shopkeepers, hair dressers, nail techs, teachers. It does not really matter. And many of them I have stayed in their house instead of a hotel. Of all the women I have been involved with I can remember 2 (and let me tell you that I have been through a lot of fucking women) that you would look at and say she is Black. The rest you would say are White, Native, or Mixed. So where you came up with this not liking Black men and sour face bullshit I do not know.
And it isn't just Colombia, but most of South America (except Brazil).More bullshit. I studied for my MBA in Buenos Aires as well as Rio de Janeiro. I have chicks in Santiago, Chile. I have an ex-girlfriend in Lima, Peru who is an accounting manager at Deloitte and another who owns her own pharmacy and yet another who is an obstetrician. My current one works in business at SAB Miller and they have all been to visit me in the States on their own dime. Showdown you should have never asked that question. You should never worry about "being black" as far as travelling. Go and get your own experiences and do not base your decision to travel on whether you think you will be accepted or not.
Showdown was not asking about an advantage. He was only asking if he would be treated badly.
I have never seen this happen in Colombia. And out of the 100+ countries that I have been to, it has only happened in Singapore and Indonesia. But the reason why it happened in those places was that the hookers or papasans thought that Black guys' dicks were too big. "There will always be a few that don't mind"? LOL. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
What the fuck dude? Thug like attitude? If an Italian came on this board and asked the same thing would you tell him not to bring a mafia-like attitude? And where the hell did you get the rest of this from? You are showing up with second and third hand hearsay. Well I am here with first hand experience. I am Black American and I have been going to Colombia for 11 years with over 50 trips. I have been to Bogota, Cali, Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, and Medellin. I can count all the hookers that I have fucked there on my hands and feet. For me, Colombia is for non-pros. I have no problem picking up normal women in Colombia. I have dealt with doctors, lawyers, students, shopkeepers, hair dressers, nail techs, teachers. It does not really matter. And many of them I have stayed in their house instead of a hotel. Of all the women I have been involved with I can remember 2 (and let me tell you that I have been through a lot of fucking women) that you would look at and say she is Black. The rest you would say are White, Native, or Mixed. So where you came up with this not liking Black men and sour face bullshit I do not know.
More bullshit. I studied for my MBA in Buenos Aires as well as Rio de Janeiro. I have chicks in Santiago, Chile. I have an ex-girlfriend in Lima, Peru who is an accounting manager at Deloitte and another who owns her own pharmacy and yet another who is an obstetrician. My current one works in business at SAB Miller and they have all been to visit me in the States on their own dime. Showdown you should have never asked that question. You should never worry about "being black" as far as travelling. Go and get your own experiences and do not base your decision to travel on whether you think you will be accepted or not.Some people just can't help but let their true self out. I have been to Medellin and loved it. A friend of mine was married to this seriously hot Paisa for five years and lived in Medellin, she looked white. I am black and my friend was black. I plan on going back next year. I think I will enjoy it even more now that I can speak the language.
Of course that is just my thuggish opinion.
James Dandy
12-28-15, 22:31
I take it none of the guys throwing a fit took my link so I'll post it again. I took about half a second to find this, maybe some of the smart guys here can explain what it means? I think it means that Colombians generally view marrying white as marrying up, but you can draw your own conclusions as to what that implies for marrying a black. These aren't my words, in fact I don't even read HuffPo.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maria-alejandra-casalehardin-/mejorar-la-raza-an-exampl_b_7558892.html
LMAO! Nothing gets people hopped up like race. It just so happens my current "girlfriend" is the hottest black chick I've ever seen, but I'm not Colombian which was the issue and how they feel about blacks. So, Tell All can shove it up his black ass when he says "some people just let their true selves out", implying I'm some raving racist, because I'm all in baby and have the Negrita to prove it!
I'm done with the topic because I don't give a fuck, but feel free to bark some more if you must.
Dellorto clearly doesn't know anything about Medellin from his comments as well as the fact he's never been here. Blacks will not have an advantage in this culture under any circumstances. While Colombians don't treat others rudely, people generally try to keep to their own, and especially much more than in places like the US. That not only applies to races but economic strata as well, you won't find a rich colombian guy with a barrio chick no matter how much he loves pussy.
Why one would need "an advantage" in a casa picking a hooker is beyond me. The only advantage you need is $12. What is more likely to happen than being treated rudely is that some of the girls will not present themselves when they peek through the door and see a black man, this has happened on more than one occasion with friends of mine. But don't despair bc there will always be a few that don't mind and you will find service.
As far as going to clubs and picking up non-pros, that's a real distant long shot (almost none), and bringing a thug like attitude would only make it several degrees worse, if you happen to be that type or attitude. If you treat people properly they will do the same, but this isn't the US or Europe where they cherish mixing races above all else. In fact, if you ask ANY girl if she likes black men (besides a black girl), they will always say NO and give a sour face, even if they might actually. There is also saying Colombians use (on TV, movies, etc) "mejorar la raza", which means "improve the race", referring to mixing with whites as being positive (google it). They even sell products to bleach skin here. Take from that what you will.
For example, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maria-alejandra-casalehardin-/mejorar-la-raza-an-exampl_b_7558892.html
And it isn't just Colombia, but most of South America (except Brazil). Girls don't even lay out to tan bc they perceive dark skin as a lower social strata.
Colombia does have some super hot black girls, too, and I can't imagine they would think the same.What an ass you are! Sure, the girls will tell white guys they prefer white guys. And they'll tell black guys they prefer black guys. They'd tell midgets they preferred them.
Only a fool would take it to heart.
Please stop before you make (more of) an ass of yourself.
Asianpussylover
12-29-15, 01:42
What an ass you are! Sure, the girls will tell white guys they prefer white guys. And they'll tell black guys they prefer black guys. They'd tell midgets they preferred them.
Only a fool would take it to heart.
Please stop before you make (more of) an ass of yourself.The only color the girls care about is the green in your pocket. Will be in medellin on the 5th. Cheers.
I take it none of the guys throwing a fit took my link so I'll post it again. I took about half a second to find this, maybe some of the smart guys here can explain what it means? I think it means that Colombians generally view marrying white as marrying up, but you can draw your own conclusions as to what that implies for marrying a black. These aren't my words, in fact I don't even read HuffPo.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maria-alejandra-casalehardin-/mejorar-la-raza-an-exampl_b_7558892.html
LMAO! Nothing gets people hopped up like race. It just so happens my current "girlfriend" is the hottest black chick I've ever seen, but I'm not Colombian which was the issue and how they feel about blacks. So, Tell All can shove it up his black ass when he says "some people just let their true selves out", implying I'm some raving racist, because I'm all in baby and have the Negrita to prove it!
I'm done with the topic because I don't give a fuck, but feel free to bark some more if you must.Marrying a black chick doesn't make you a non racist, because you can still hold racist ideology, thinking that one race is better then other. Donald Sterling former NBA Clippers owner was laying with a black / mixed girl but still made racist remarks about black people telling Stiviano don't bring black people to his games, he don't want her to associate with black people.
Member #4394
12-29-15, 04:23
Also you can only do so much mongering in a day. So I like to go to places where you can do other things in the place you are mongering. However it seems Medellin is devoid of anything to do (I looked at TripAdvisor). If this statement is untrue can someone point me to some non mongering activities?
Thanks.
Showdown.1. Take a bus for 2-3 hrs to country towns. 2. Study Spanish at a college. 3. Visit some parks and museums in the city. 4. Parachute.
All these and other activities are in travel guide books. You should read one of these books, also you need to read bunch of pages here for p4 p actions.
RubMeister100
12-29-15, 05:08
Do the math: 7000 COP (2 EUR) per pill wouldn't be too expensive? It was actually less than 7000 per box.
For other medications, Colombia is not the Far West, so I'd say it depends on the kind of medication.Can't you just be nice for a little bit and resist being a sanctimonious smartass?
I asked you politely to clarify what you failed to make clear, rather than criticizing your inability to communicate whether you meant a cost per pill or box of 4. I have no idea of "the math" in Medellin as I have ten different reference prices for OTC ED medications.
In the DR you can get 100 tablets of genuine 100 MG generic sildenafil for less than USD $50 ($0. 50 = 0. 75 EUR per tablet) or you can pay the same equivalent of USD $50 for 16 tablets (US $3 = 4 EUR tablet) of generic sildenafil OTC in Spain.
Several guys have sent me PM's saying you are actually a nice guy in person despite coming across as a sanctimonious dick online. Might I suggest you speak to your friends here as if you were speaking to them in person. And be nice. Being a smart ass is far less appealing than being respected as a knowledgeable, and friendly, helpful guy.
FWIW.
MikeysHouse
12-29-15, 06:16
Nice to see the Medellin board is harmonious as usual.
No I amnot Kidding, What would I be kiding about? Look at the number of my posts.
I am in Colombia every 5-6 weeks. I have 2 apartments in Medellin one with my novia. I need a place off the radar where I do not have to leave as my novia is very connected, and if I drop by any club, I will have a Colombian necktie from her friend Popeye if you know who he is.
Mel.
Unbelievable. He must be joking.
No I amnot Kidding, What would I be kiding about? Look at the number of my posts.
I am in Colombia every 5-6 weeks. I have 2 apartments in Medellin one with my novia. I need a place off the radar where I do not have to leave as my novia is very connected, and if I drop by any club, I will have a Colombian necktie from her friend Popeye if you know who he is.
Mel.Don't know Popeye but if it is that dangerous for you, perhaps you should abstain from Mongering. But if you can't, Medellin Mansion, Casa Blanca and Medellin Plaza Hotel. All are the same place and Aussie Greg should still be there I think. Been a while since I have been there.
Good Luck.
RubMeister100
12-29-15, 18:47
Nice to see the Medellin board is harmonious as usual.Yeah, no kidding!
FFS, people should really just lighten up and be friendly and helpful. More effort is put into being smartasses and trying to show ho stupid the other guy is etc that just answering a question.
Too bad. Because the information these guys have and could share is way more impressive than their lame attempts to appear wise and cool. We re grown men and don't need to be scolded or taught lessons on life.
Black Page
12-29-15, 19:05
So I like to go to places where you can do other things in the place you are mongering. However it seems Medellin is devoid of anything to do (I looked at TripAdvisor). If this statement is untrue can someone point me to some non mongering activities?
1. Take a bus for 2-3 hrs to country towns. 2. Study Spanish at a college. 3. Visit some parks and museums in the city. 4. Parachute.
All these and other activities are in travel guide books. You shouldread one of these books, also you need to read bunch of pages here for p4 p actions.You're kidding or what? Devoid of anything to do? Forget TripAdvisor and all the public forums!
There are manyinteresting activities that make Medellin one of the best places to spend time at day (topped by lovely local girls at night). Actually, I believe Medellin is one of the best places I know worldwide to relocate to work and live. (not just to retire, I mean really work and live a regular life).
Let me enumerate just the firsts things to see and visit at day time that come to my mind:
- Museo de Antioquia (with the museum in Bogota, it is where most master pieces of Botero are shown).
- Parque Explora.
- Sitting at a cafe at Sabaneta.
- Parque Arvi (take the cablecar and enjoy the view).
- Enjoy the beauty of Antioquia! Take a bus to Santa Fe de Antioquia, stroll around, eat, visit the Puente (one full day).
- Another good tour in Antioquia is to Guatape' (one full day).
- Spend a whole afternoon strolling around the center. You will not see so many beauties around you anywhere else in the world.
- If you speak Spanish and are brave enough, you might also enjoy playing pool (billiard) in a fantastic club right in the center, almost at the side of Museo de Antioquia, 1 block or less from where poor souls sniff glue and survive in the street.
(go with someone).
More than half of your last dozen posts are about people not being nice. Perhaps you should take the hint. And not take it so personally. It's an online forum, about sex around the world. The things that we say can be perceived in many different ways, so stop taking it so personally and pretending to be the guy that feels like he must advise people to be nice and how they should behave. Some of us went to high school. Decades ago. We're here to respond, whether it's in a nice way or a not nice way, that should be the least of your concerns.
Yeah, no kidding!
FFS, people should really just lighten up and be friendly and helpful. More effort is put into being smartasses and trying to show ho stupid the other guy is etc that just answering a question.
Too bad. Because the information these guys have and could share is way more impressive than their lame attempts to appear wise and cool. We re grown men and don't need to be scolded or taught lessons on life.
You're kidding or what?? DEVOID OF ANYTHING TO DO?? Forget TripAdvisor and all the public forums!
There are MANY interesting activities that make Medellin one of the best places to spend time at day (topped by lovely local girls at night). Actually, I believe Medellin is one of the best places I know worldwide to relocate to WORK and LIVE. (not just to retire, I mean really work and live a regular life).
Let me enumerate just the firsts things to see and visit at day time that come to my mind:
- Museo de Antioquia (with the museum in Bogota, it is where most master pieces of Botero are shown).
- Parque Explora.
- Sitting at a cafe at Sabaneta.
- Parque Arvi (take the cablecar and enjoy the view).
- Enjoy the beauty of Antioquia! Take a bus to Santa Fe de Antioquia, stroll around, eat, visit the Puente (one full day).
- Another good tour in Antioquia is to Guatape' (one full day).
- Spend a whole afternoon strolling around the center. You will not see so many beauties around you anywhere else in the world.
- If you speak Spanish and are brave enough, you might also enjoy playing pool (billiard) in a fantastic club right in the center, almost at the side of Museo de Antioquia, 1 block or less from where poor souls sniff glue and survive in the street.
(go with someone).IMO, for a metro area of 4 Million, it's not a particularly interesting city. Having said that, the chicas are beautiful and the weather is just about perfect.
I do like your last suggestion. Every visit, I try to hit the billiards places en Centro right near the glue-sniffing areas. Thought I was going to get knifed the last time! Agreed -- don't do this unless you speak Spanish and aren't scared easily!
Another thing to do in Medellin that hasn't been mentioned, is to ride the metro system. Its probably one of the most modern mass transit systems in South America. A very smooth ride. Doesn't cost that much. It runs the length of Medellin, and also you can go up into the hills and get great views of the city in 2 places. In one of those areas you can go to a national park (can't think of the name of it) on the back end and walk around and enjoy the scenery.
Member #4394
12-30-15, 02:32
I believe Medellin is one of the best places I know worldwide to relocate to WORK.For work as well? Would you please elaborate it, if you care to explain?
MikeysHouse
12-30-15, 03:24
Yeah, no kidding!
FFS, people should really just lighten up and be friendly and helpful. More effort is put into being smartasses and trying to show ho stupid the other guy is etc that just answering a question.
Too bad. Because the information these guys have and could share is way more impressive than their lame attempts to appear wise and cool. We re grown men and don't need to be scolded or taught lessons on life.It is kind of sad really I'm a newer guy on ISG (not a senior member yet) and every time I come on here over the last year is constant bickering, one upping, and chastising. I noticed several comments on other Colombia boards where guys (who have serious knowledge to drop) say they would like to get involved on this board but stay away because of the criticizing and fighting that goes on. Plus god forbid someone ask a question that is too basic or obvious because you will be cut down and made 2 feet tall. Lets try and remember the what the true spirit of what this board should be. Helping others, providing a medium to share hard to find information, and to re-live and let our brothers live the experiences we all have. For there is one thing we all agree on. We love chicks!
Hello gentlemen!
Me and my buddy (both Russian, living in the USA) are going to visit Medellin for 5 days. This is going to be our first trip to Colombia and we are really excited about it. We have booked a nice apartment in Poblado area through AirBnb website, so we would like to bring ladies over to our place occasionally. Since we both do not speak Spanish, I believe.
The easiest way for us would be to use escort agencies which do outcalls. I have been seeing agency girls here in the USA A lot, and so far have had a positive experience. Could you please recommend a few trusted, well-known agencies which you guys have personally used (and names of the ladies you have seen)? Of course I have used Google to find a few, and it seems like all their girls are hot, and rates are reasonable, but I'm worried a bit about bait-and-switch and security issues.
We definitely will be visiting numerous brothels during the day (like new life, energy, etc.), I've heard Face Dos strip club is a must see, but we are more interested in "renting".
Ladies for extended period of time, say 4-5 hours, or perhaps, for a whole night, going out to eat / drink, play at home after. If there any other alternatives to escort agencies.
Please let me know, your suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Delta Indigo
12-30-15, 08:27
More than half of your last dozen posts are about people not being nice. Perhaps you should take the hint. And not take it so personally. It's an online forum, about sex around the world. The things that we say can be perceived in many different ways, so stop taking it so personally and pretending to be the guy that feels like he must advise people to be nice and how they should behave. Some of us went to high school. Decades ago. We're here to respond, whether it's in a nice way or a not nice way, that should be the least of your concerns.I am surprised just how obnoxious contributors to this thread can be when you ask a simple question. This is a forum about pay sex and we are here to receive info and advice about getting our rocks off as well as reciprocally returning the favor.
I asked a simple question about how common it is for working girls in Colombia to accommodate a certain sexual desire that is overwhelmingly prevalent in mainstream porn and am surprised about the number of condescending moralistic responses I got.
For example I asked the question 2 xs in brief sentences and was accused of badgering the board and so on. Quite frankly a lot of people here need to lighten up for this thread to be a congenial place to share information.
Mr Enternational
12-30-15, 09:11
I asked a simple question about how common it is for working girls in Colombia to accommodate a certain sexual desire that is overwhelmingly prevalent in mainstream porn and am surprised about the number of condescending moralistic responses I got.You are aware that porn is not real right? It is only a desire because you saw it in a movie. As Ordell Robbie said in Jackie Brown, "The killer had a .45, so THEY want a .45. But what most motherfuckers don't know is that a .45 got a serious jamming problem."
I will repost a video that I posted in the Philippines thread a few weeks ago of Koreans watching Western porn for the first time. I posted another video before that about the out takes in porn that you do not see in the finished product. I.E. The literally shitty anal accidents.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhx5b07170P1ybE0oH
But all guys are saying is to RTFF. Meaning do your homework and if you have any questions after that then feel free to ask. Before even my first trip to Medellin (I have only been twice by the way) and before I did any research on the place I had heard of two names that it seemed went hand in hand, Aussie Greg and The Mansion. So for someone to come on here and hastily inquire about Aussie Greg having no idea that he runs The Mansion I'm sure most regular posters' jaws dropped. Like seriously dude, how could you even know about Aussie Greg without knowing about The Mansion?
Delta Indigo
12-30-15, 09:53
You are aware that porn is not real right? It is only a desire because you saw it in a movie. As Ordell Robbie said in Jackie Brown, "The killer had a .45, so THEY want a .45. But what most motherfuckers don't know is that a .45 got a serious jamming problem."
I will repost a video that I posted in the Philippines thread a few weeks ago of Koreans watching Western porn for the first time. I posted another video before that about the out takes in porn that you do not see in the finished product. I.E. The literally shitty anal accidents.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhx5b07170P1ybE0oH
?If you don't like anal sex that is fine, I am not asking you nor anyone else to try it. You do realize that it is not nearly as uncommon as you imply, have you ever heard of Brazil, where according to anthropological research more than half of non pros practice it in their sex lives?
I actually have a lot of respect for you given your response to other recent queries, however I do consider your response here to be quite moralistic and one that I would not expect to see on a forum dedicated overwhelmingly to pay sex.
Anal sex is practiced numerous times around the world without shitty accidents. Have you ever had blood on your penis from vaginal sex just before the advent of your partner's period? I certainly have. I love giving a woman oral sex, but many people find that disgusting. This is really not the place for moral preaching.
I really don't want to start an argument and reiterate that I have enormous respect to your other responses to recent queries.
Black Page
12-30-15, 11:25
For work as well? Would you please elaborate it, if you care to explain?I go to Medellin for work, about 1 or 2 times per year. Very unfortunately, I cannot go there more often. Don't ask me where and what. Let's say something more intellectual than manual.
What I have found out in this beautiful city, since my first visit in 2006 (WOW! Time flows so quickly) is that it has made ENORMOUS progress.
Twenty years ago or something, it was even not advisable to take a cab from the airport, or drive a car at night from the airport to downtown, due to poor security of the main roads.
I remember my first time walking around the center down the metro at night. SCARY!
In the last 10-20 years, the government worked very well to this regard. It is now much safer. The metrocable helped to integrate the population of poor barrios uphill in the main city. Police is not corrupted and works well. (I say this because I am routinely stopped, interrogated and searched at least ONCE every time I go to Colombia. I've never been asked a tip. Only smiles and pats on shoulders. Sure after my pockets have been emptied).
The economy is booming. The paisa are not only very friendly but also extremely industrious. And I say this by direct experience. They are very efficient in all activities.
Paisa do not like Bogota and "rollos" (and vice versa). They see them as inefficient, bureaucratic, slow, etc.
Universities are good and students prove among best ones when they spend a period of studies in USA or Europe.
I guess that the 99% of readers of this forum never visited EAFIT or UPB or other major universities in Medellin, but it would be an eye-opener for those who think they go to "third world" to exhibit the power of the dollar with local poor girls.
I may just advise people to try to see more than local "casas".
Years ago I attended a conference at the convention center in Plaza Mayor. Did you see it? What a flawless and efficient organization! Everything was running like a clock. And the staff kept smiling at international attendees from the first minute to the last one.
Combo wrote "IMO, for a metro area of 4 Million, it's not a particularly interesting city. " Let me argue: did you have ever visit St. Louis, Kansas City, or on a larger scale even Dallas, Forth Worth, Houston,...??
What can you do in Dallas, if you don't have a car and don't want to drive 50 km? And what can you do, after having spent 1 hour in car? (I was there one week. It was frankly a shock.).
Medellin offers *quality of life*, from the entertainment, to the healthy environment, to the work efficient environment whatever is your profession (of course, I assume some well-paid employment), to low cost of life, the friendliness of the people, etc.
Should I relocate (my country is a "good" one anyway, and I have not many reasons to relocate, except escaping) I would definitely choose Colombia, if I want to couple an active work life with everything else.
Lucky Nuts
12-30-15, 16:55
Question for you Blackpage: RE: "Police is not corrupted and works well. (I say this because I am routinely stopped, interrogated and searched at least ONCE every time I go to Colombia. ".
I have spent about three months in Medellin over the last year and have had no interaction with police. I visit el centro most days. Just curious why you are "routinely stopped"? BTW, nice post on the changes you've seen over the last ten years!
Black Page
12-30-15, 18:18
Universities are good and students prove among best ones when they spend a period of studies in USA or Europe.
I guess that the 99% of readers of this forum never visited EAFIT or UPB or other major universities in Medellin, but it would be an eye-opener for those who think they go to "third world" to exhibit the power of the dollar with local poor girls.
I may just advise people to try to see more than local "casas".It's incredible, but yes, someone understood my paragraph above as a hint for mongering. And PMed me:
Tell me about EAFIT, so just go to the university and talk to the girls there?
No, that was not a hint for finding easy girls willing to sell pussy to any gringo arrecho.
Let me be more clear:
No, that was not a hint for finding easy girls willing to sell pussy to you.
I meant to say that those universities are good places to study, well organized and with good teachers, where the Colombian upper-class young generation gets prepared for a successful career, from the BSc to the PhD level.
My advice was "Go to see what is Colombia, if the best you have seen so far is Phase II".
Question for you Blackpage: RE: "Police is not corrupted and works well. (I say this because I am routinely stopped, interrogated and searched at least ONCE every time I go to Colombia. ".
I have spent about three months in Medellin over the last year and have had no interaction with police. I visit el centro most days. Just curious why you are "routinely stopped"? BTW, nice post on the changes you've seen over the last ten years!That is interesting. Trust me: I do not look like a thug (in spite of the debate some months ago about me being "Dart Veder of Medellin nights".
In spite of this, I've been stopped at least once on all my visits to Colombia so far.
It happened in CTG (usually at 3 am in the street that goes to Opera, where police waits for coming tourists), in BOG (my taxi was stopped last time around 1am, and also one time I was searched at Santa Fe), and in MDE.
You might be curious about MDE. So, if I dig in my memory my more recent visits:
- my taxi was stopped while going back to Poblado at 2 am from some place at West of the river, where I went to eat some meat in a roadside asadero (at glorietas, they prepare very good meat on charcoal until 2 am and 4 am on weekends);
- I was stopped in Centro while I was simply walking around daytime;
- I was stopped near Parque de los Periodistas, again at day time.
I never had a single problem. They simply check ID (I keep a copy of passport with my national ID), ask why I am in town, search my pockets and wallet for drugs. I never use drugs, so it's easy to convince them I am not into illegal activities. All searches always end up in pats on shoulders, smiles, and reciprocal wishes for a successful night.
BlackPage -.
I've spent cumulatively several months in Colombia and I've never been searched or asked for ID. And I by no means limit myself to Poblado. For whatever reason, you must attract policia.
Yes Dallas is one incredibly uninteresting place. Mde beats it. No offense intended, obviously I enjoy Mde. But I don't think it's a particularly exciting city beyond the chicas and the weather. Bit those are two important things!
Member #4394
12-30-15, 19:40
When there is a gringo at a bad place he is not supposed to be at, police tends to search him out of curiosity. They are always bored.
BlackPage -.
I've spent cumulatively several months in Colombia and I've never been searched or asked for ID. And I by no means limit myself to Poblado. For whatever reason, you must attract policia.
Yes Dallas is one incredibly uninteresting place. Mde beats it. No offense intended, obviously I enjoy Mde. But I don't think it's a particularly exciting city beyond the chicas and the weather. Bit those are two important things!
Member #4394
12-30-15, 19:45
Thanks for the explanation. I have a more reserved / less positive opinion about the education and sophistication of the people in Medellin. But it is a good writing. Enjoyed reading the post. Thank you.
I go to Medellin for work, about 1 or 2 times per year. Very unfortunately, I cannot go there more often. Don't ask me where and what. Let's say something more intellectual than manual.
I would definitely choose Colombia, if I want to couple an active work life with everything else..
Black Page
12-31-15, 01:22
When there is a gringo at a bad place he is not supposed to be at, police tends to search him out of curiosity. They are always bored..I agree. But I am not a gringo.
Thanks for the explanation. I have a more reserved / less positive opinion about the education and sophistication of the people in Medellin. But it is a good writing. Enjoyed reading the post. Thank you..In Colombia, differences between social classes are huge. Not only in terms of money, but also culture.
MikeKelimir
12-31-15, 01:36
Hey guys,
I have stayed at the MDE Mansion 3 times over the last few years, but haven't been in about 18 months.
1. I see they renamed (and new domain) to Medellin Plaza. Are the owners still the same?
2. I read in a post where there are less girls there because of the neighbors complaining. Is there any merit to that?
3. Do they still have the bar type gathering in the basement area during the weekend. I was there and on the Friday / Sat night, about 15 girls showed up and partied with all the guests in their bar / club / basement area.
4. I stayed in a room that was at the bottom and a little more shut off. Anyone know which one that was?
Generally, I like the idea that there was a steady influx of girls coming and going throughout the day and evening on each day I was there last time and wanted a repeat, but just haven't been in a while.
Hey guys,
I have stayed at the MDE Mansion 3 times over the last few years, but haven't been in about 18 months.
1. I see they renamed (and new domain) to Medellin Plaza. Are the owners still the same?
2. I read in a post where there are less girls there because of the neighbors complaining. Is there any merit to that?
3. Do they still have the bar type gathering in the basement area during the weekend. I was there and on the Friday / Sat night, about 15 girls showed up and partied with all the guests in their bar / club / basement area.
4. I stayed in a room that was at the bottom and a little more shut off. Anyone know which one that was?
Generally, I like the idea that there was a steady influx of girls coming and going throughout the day and evening on each day I was there last time and wanted a repeat, but just haven't been in a while.1. Yes, pretty much the same.
2. I also heard about neighbors complaint, hence the name change, and I also understand that the owners are trying to make it low key, but not much has changed.
3. If you're talking about the cueva, it's open every day starting at 6 pm.
4. yes, what about it? They added 2 new rooms above.
MedellinGringo
12-31-15, 05:15
Question for you Blackpage: RE: "Police is not corrupted and works well. (I say this because I am routinely stopped, interrogated and searched at least ONCE every time I go to Colombia. ".
I have spent about three months in Medellin over the last year and have had no interaction with police. I visit el centro most days. Just curious why you are "routinely stopped"? BTW, nice post on the changes you've seen over the last ten years!He probably drives a car. Almost impossible to drive a month in Colombia without having some kind of contact with the police.
Member #4398
12-31-15, 08:03
Another awesome December trip in Medellin. This trip started in the mid December till the end of December 2015. Here are the hightlights:
DAY 1 Monday Club Paris.
Early arrival in Medellin. Found a bancolombia ATM at the airport terminal and used my capitalone360 bank card got 600 k, the exchange was about 180 US for that amount. Then I went outside the terminal and saw the white buses along with the yellow taxis. The white buses continues to charge 8 k cop for a 45-60 minutes ride to the centro / nutivara hotel so I took the bus and ditched the taxi. After that I walked around the centro which was vibrant with people and vendors everywhere and decided to make a stop at Casa or Club Paris Carrera 47 #56-34. The line up was of about 15 girls. I was impressed with the quantity and quality. The last time I was there, I was shown 3 girls. After the big line up, I picked an enhanced Paisa with great features, perfect waist, boobs, ass, face, everything seemed perfect, dark long hair, white skin. She said she was 22 and provided good service, good BJ with a condom. 38 K for haft an hour plus a tip to the girl. It was a good service and got the whattsapp of the girl. After that I tried to get to http://tuapartamentomde.com/ in the Laureles area which I reserved weeks in advance but the guy I dealed with never responded so I did not go there. Because o this I don't recommend this place anymore. I found another studio apartment for 90 k per night while walking around in Laureles near the estadio metro train terminal www.amobladosla70medellin.com Their office is locaed at Cra 70 no 45 E-93 The apartment I got is located in Laureles and near la avenida70, nice apartment and area, very private apartment with no doorman but very safe area and no obnoxious neighbors near. Good place to bring a girl. Quiet place at nice, very nice apartment well equipped with all you need. In the morning the place is a little noisy because of the street traffict and the hot water does not run much, but a pretty good place overall.
DAY 2 Tuesday Casa Coffee Shop.
I went back to el Centro via the Metro in the morning. I found Casa Coffee shop Carrera 45 (El Palo) #55-45, entre Peru and Bolivia. There the line up was of 8 girl. The girl I picked was another nice looking paisa nice bubble ass and with dark hair and tanned skin, another pretty face. 40 k haft the hour. The place was clean, a small room with a bathroom. Another good service and BJ. The girl climbed on me after I asked her and had her on top the whole time until my release. She was sweet, but no GF. After that I went back to my apartment. I felt lonely back at my apartment so I decided to switch accommodations the next day and check a party hostel (Pitstop) located in the Poblado and Barrio Bonito area: http://www.pitstophostel.com/..
DAY 3 Wednesday Casa Zandalay.
I switched my accommodations. The Pitstop hostel was not bad at all. A nice swimming pool, a steam room, a bar, a pool table, basketball and volleyball court, drinks and beers, tv room, music and some nice travelers to hang out. The rooms are unisex shared with other travelers for 30 k the night. The only downside are the privacy issue and that if you are not that lucky you may end up with some stinky travelers in the room that may have been carrying his / her dirty clothes for weeks. They have private rooms for 60 k but I was operating on my cheap mode. I was lucky thought and despite my room being a shared room with 5 other people, my room was pretty empty with just me. In the afternoon, I went back to el Centro and took the metr train. This time, I went to Casa Zandalay Carrera 47 #57 A-34, piso 2. This is a very nice casa with lots of girls. This casa has a small bar. Saw the line up of about 14 girls, all types, flacas, gordas, beautiful, enhanced, not so good looking, big nice ass, bit boobs and small, small ass, fat assess, etc. Picked a nice looking thin petite girl. This girl was GF all the way. I guess that she liked me because she was cuddling with me after several sex positions and was taking a nap hugging me, caressing my face and hair. I also took a short nap. Not bad at all. Got the girls number, tipped her an left. Went back to the Pitstop hostel where I drank some beers, used the pool and sauna and hanged out with the travelers. I went out at night to parque llleras with several people I met at the hostel and we just hanged out in the park area and got some beers.
DAY 4 Thursday CASA NEW LIFE.
Back to El centro at 11 am. Went to New Life, Calle 56 (Bolivia) # 43-39, piso 2, between el Palo and Giradot. One of the best cheap Casa in Medellin. The casa has the blue iron door outside and two more iron secured doors to get in that they open electronically or buzz, is like entering a prison. Intimidating at first, but the place is pretty safe, lots of beautiful girls inside and attendants are cool and friendly at the Casa. The rooms have bathrooms and the place is clean. Haft hour was 40 k. This time I picked another nice 19 year old looking morena. Decent service with a BJ. This one had a perfect round ass so I did not miss the opportunity to do her doggy style and got my release. The girl told me she was from Bello and she told me I could take the metro to go there. She told me to check the park. I left happy and went back to the metro terminal to check Bello. The ride was about 20 minutes. I checked the park and the neighborhood is not that bad is like a mixed of middle and lower class type of area, safeand friendly people around. The park was beautiful with a big church next to it and lots of local people hanging out watching the highly decorated park and church with the alumbrados or Christmas lights. I ate a good dinner at a restaurant nearby. After that took the Metro back to Poblado and hanged out at the hostel, used the pool, and the sauna.
DAY 5 Friday CASA CHICAS PUNTO.COM AND EMBIGADO BARRIO.
In the morning I went to Chicas punto com Calle 54 (Caracas) #49-97, piso 2. The line up was of about 12 girls. I found a fresh barrio gem girl here. She said she was 18. The fresh young face and cute body, no make up, a guitar body, small tits and round ass. She had braces on. This girl was georgeous. Just looking at her face I was turned on. She was friendly. Was not that affectionate at the beginning, but I decided to play with her a little bit and even gave her a massage just to take a look at her great features and to see if I could turn her on that way. This worked because she became more affectionate and responsive after that and I had great fun with this girl in several positions missionary, doggy and sideways. I got her whatsapp. 40 k for haft the hour plus the tip I gave her. The rooms at chicaspunto.com had bathroom inside and the beds were cheap but good enough for sex and clean. After that, took the metro train to barrio embigado to check the neighborhood on foot. Another nice neighborhood with a nice park, church and alumbrados or city lights. Lots of local families hanging out at the park just like in the Bello park. I ate there some good food near the park and then went back to Poblado via bus.
DAY 6 Saturday ADELITAS CASA AND A REAL CITY TOUR.
Went to El Centro at 10 am. Found Adelitas Casa after someone gave me a business card while walking in the centro near the area. I lost the card anddid not write the address so I can't post the location of this casa. In this casa I had a surprise. A 21 girl now that I met at coffee shop last year and lost contact with was in the line up. Small world I guess. She seemed happy to see me and I was too so I picked her. There were some great looking girls in this Casathat I could have picked if it wasn't for the friend. The girl continues to have a great figure, pretty face, toned body, nice ass and tits. I paid for an hour session 60 K. She told me the place is also owned by the coffee shop owner. The girl was GF from the beginning and could not hide the excitement for being with me. She offer BJJ and I took that and after that some multiple positions until the end. I was happy and got her whatsapp number again. I promised not to lose the number again. At 1 pm I was able to do a free tour: http://www.realcitytours.com/#!free-walking-tour / c1 hbi This tour I recommend. The tour meet at the Alpujarra metro train terminal and is in English. They take you walking to some good sites and to areas in the centro, giving you background history of sites and good stories. Many world travelers participate in the tour. The tour promises to show you the real Medellin and they really delivered. The tour ended about 630 pm in a shady area / park in the centro that is where it got interesting. One of the participant travelers on the tour almost got stabbed at the very end of the tour after a stranger approached him and asked him for a cigarette which he tried to give to the other guy. The stranger then attempted to take a shiny chain from the neck of the tour participant. I only saw when the stranger pushed the other the other guy and pulled the chain from his neck. He also displayed a knife to the frightened tour participant. Fortunately, the tour participant was not injured, just got his shirt ripped off and an experience to remember for the rest of his life. The thieft dropped the chain while running away and the participant was able to get it back. The tour guy kept asking the guy if he was okay and if he could describe the person to contact the police and he said he did not want to bother so that was the end of it. Even thought this incident occurred during this tour, I recommend this tour. The traveler who almost got robbed and stabbed was also at fault for displaying a shiny chain on his neck and stopping to give the stranger a cigarrette in the Medellin center and night. This is all a big NO NO Not to give papaya as they say in Medellin which he did by displaying his nice chain on his neck.
Day 7 Sunday GUATAPE TOUR AND NATIONAL SOCCER Team Wins.
I took the day off if you call this a day off. Went to Guatape for a whole day tour. http://toursguatape.com/ for 69 K. Nice tour from 8 am to 7 pm. The tour was in Spanish but there are other tour companies that do it in English. A stop is made in a small beautiful city before getting to Guatape and another city after Guatape. The Guatape climb is impressive, is quite a task to do it, but its doable. When I got back from Guatape to Medelling, there was some crazy thing going on in Medellin because the National soccer team from Medellin just won a game at the Stadio arena to a team from Barranquilla. People were celebrating in masses on the street, making noice, troying things at people (some type of foam), exploting things all over, all in the spirit of celebrating, but it was quite scary to me. I decided to go to my place as soon as I saw how rowdy the crowds were and the Police was not even respected when they passed by because the large crowds would throw things at then and would move their cars and motos, again within the spirit of celebrating, but all seemed to crazy for me and dangerous so I left.
Day 8 Monday CLUB DE AMIGAS SEXI.
In the afternoon I visited Club Amigas Sexi, Carrera 45 the # 57-67. Here there was a nice line up today of about 8 girls. I found another gem here, a stunning white Paisa with dark hair and perfect figure. She had a beautiful face and smile. She was probably a 9 or 10 for my standards. I decided to try this one and got good results from her. No GF but good enough for me. She also gave me a back massage before sex. I left the place with a happy smile. I think it was 40 k for haft the hour. The room was clean and the bed cheap in the room but good enough for me.
Another week and Christmas.
I had another week left in Medellin and spent Christmas there, but on that week I just rotated the same casas from above and had a similar experiences, all good, nothing negative to report. Lucky me I did not get a single negative experience at the casas or with any girl. I spent most nights at the Pitstop hostel in Poblado, but I also went back to the studio apartamento in Laureles for a couple of nights after craving some privacy and needing the place to be with a girl there. Most casas were busy every day with high traffict coming in and out and lots of selections and even on Christmas eve were opened and Christmas day some were opened. My expenses were minimal this time because the dollar is kicking ass against the Colombian peso, the hostel 30 k per night and the Centro casa average girl prices at 40 k per haft hour rate also kept my expenses to the minimun. In two weeks in Medellin, I spend about $600 dollars plus the flight from US $480, about 12 different girls and some repeats, food, tours, things I bought, and my accommodation expenses. The weather was great all the time, warm, sunny, and spring like most days.
Obviously, MDE doesn't reach the level of a "world-class" or "global" city such as London, Berlin, New York. . . I guess Paris would be right behind the main 3.
There's the second tier of major European and American cities (maybe Sidney too although I've never been to Oz) and I would put Medellin and Bogota in the third tier.
Which is fine by me, I've lived in New York all my life (40+ years), and although I haven't "seen it all" or "done it all" it sure feels close sometimes. Yet I'm actually considering moving out of this expensive and overrated city (quality of life here has not improved since the late 90's and may even have gone down a bit) and finding a place that's a bit less stressful.
Your attitude on MDE really does depend on your life circumstances, and what life-stage you're at. Maybe a "bigger" city would suit a guy in his 20's or 30's or an older guy who's always lived in suburban or rural area might not find MDE to be enough city to satisfy his curiosity.
I personally really don't need MDE to be a city filled with things to do or see. On the contrary, I like the idea of moving down there to simplify my life and just focus on one or two things, the chicas being one of those things, LOL.
Black Page
12-31-15, 10:36
He probably drives a car. Almost impossible to drive a month in Colombia without having some kind of contact with the police.Not at all. Read my earlier post about where and what and how. I just go out as much as I can.
Got into mde last Tuesday. I have been to MDE a couple times before in December but never single. Big Mistake. This place had been DEAD. No one is around. Its not like there are a ton of hot chicks around and they are with families. Its that there are no hot chicks around period to even attempt to talk to. I digress. I went to new life once before Christmas and it was ok about 10 in the lineup. Average quality. I ended up falling asleep in the room and got charged for 1. 5 hours. He felt pity on me and we settled on 110,000 with the two beers. I called up every contact I knew Pro / Non Pro to try to get action. All are fuera de Medellin. Head back to new life the say after Christmas and its packed at least 15 guys waiting. The lineup is scares. Maybe 5 girls. Still I pick one and get a pretty decent massage. Short, skinny, nice booty. Was willing to do EVERYTHING for a small up charge. I declined the offer. Went to New Life again yesterday. Even more guys maybe 20 this time. Every seat takin I had to stand. Lineup was even worse maybe 4 girls all fat ugly. A guy outside told us he knew other spot for a 2,000 tip. We followed him to 3 other spots withen a two block radius and I ended up doing a session with the mamasan. Pretty pretty face ok body but great personality. Also hit Energy twice. They had the best lineup. Although they didn't have the usually grade A it was definitely solid 7-8's and about 10 girls each visit. Went to loutron up off of calle 10 way up past tesoro. Spectacular place. Great casa. Only 4 girls and 1 stunner. Really beautiful. Silicone tits and ass great face. Melissa. Unfortunately Had an emergency call from stateside and had to leave before partaking. My buddy who happened to be there said that the place always has 16-20 girls and the are grade A. The Christmas Jinx. My buddy went to Cali today and said its just as bad.
Anyone have any and I mean any advice on what to do here for the next two days? NYE and New Years Day? Besides marranadas that start at 3 am.
Member #4394
12-31-15, 16:41
Thanks for the great report, amigo. Sound like Paris got better.
Another awesome December trip in Medellin. This trip started in the mid December till the end of December 2015. Here are the hightlights:
Charm City Dave
12-31-15, 17:08
Another awesome December trip in Medellin. This trip started in the mid December till the end of December 2015. Here are the hightlights:
DAY 1 Monday Club Paris.Great report! I leave tomorrow for week stay and hope I can do as good a job as you when I return.
RubMeister100
12-31-15, 17:15
Cerebro, Medellin Gringo, phunluv, Jose Lima. You guys are great! Thanks for the great info!
Cerebro, Medellin Gringo, phunluv, Jose Lima. You guys are great! Thanks for the great info!That's whatsup!
Mr Adventure
01-01-16, 00:01
Cerebro, Medellin Gringo, phunluv, Jose Lima. You guys are great! Thanks for the great info!Thank you gentlemen for saving the day. That's what we come here for, helpful down to earth information.
Black Page
01-02-16, 00:31
Really, nobody here is jealous of newbies and wishes to keep important information confidential for initiated. There is a WEALTH of information posted. The Colombia family of threads is one of the richest on ISG.
One should just do the small effort of reading (yes, don't whine, but RTFF). Then, all further questions will be welcome and senior members will be happy to answer.
One more thing. This is not a help desk. Responses are not due.
People writes and replies for the sake of fun. If one asks a silly question, it's part of the game to make fun of it. Let people have his daily 5 minutes of fun. Nobody should feel offended. Rather, one should ask himself why the question was reputed so silly (for example, it's not blasphemous to jump in the CTG thread to ask where is the "German-style FKK" seen on some TV program, or to claim that "Playa Hollywood is a gay beach", but the poster should then accept some mockery, which is benevolent anyway).
However, I wish to "save the week", not even the day, by disclosing a secret for first-timers in Medellin: in ISG there is a LOT of LONG, DETAILED reports posted about Medellin. It's a huge repository of useful tips for all tastes: for those who like street activities, for those who go to casas, for those who like clubs.
Just read and study before travelling for your first time. And don't complain.
Links to Reports of Distinction
Just filter for "Medellin". Maybe 10% of reports linked here are not worth, or even unaccurate, but the majority will give you a complete overview of local opportunities: casas, clubs, streets, independent, everything. Lots to read and learn.
You could even filter for "Black Page", to see what this SmartAss (note the upper case) has posted since 2007. :P <grin>
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2016-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction
Medellin Lists
Oh yes! There is a volunteer who even compiled a LIST of places. And keeps it updated. And other volunteers who contribute. Discover this thread, learn and enjoy.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists
Map of Casas of Centro in Medellin
You really want it easy? This map gives you the exact location of main casas, which you read about in the other threads.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2787-Map-of-Casas-of-Centro-in-Medellin
Etc.
There are also other threads about Medellin. See the head thread AND SCROLL DOWN.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?160-Colombia
PS: There are analogous threads also for Cartagena and most important cities of Colombia.
Thanks for a very nice report. I will try an follow in your footsteps.
One question. How does one read these addresses? Like "carrera 47 #56-34". OK I can see carrera 47 on google maps and then what?
Thanks again.
Thanks for a very nice report. I will try an follow in your footsteps.
One question. How does one read these addresses? Like "carrera 47 #56-34". OK I can see carrera 47 on google maps and then what?
Thanks again.#56 would be calle 56, so from the corner of calle 56 go up carrera 47 to door number 34, #34 wud be 34 meters up from the corner.
Member #4394
01-02-16, 17:16
In addition, if the last number (door number) for a calle is an even number, it indicates the north side of calle. For carrera, the even number indicates the east side.
#56 would be calle 56, so from the corner of calle 56 go up carrera 47 to door number 34, #34 wud be 34 meters up from the corner..
Member #4398
01-03-16, 02:55
Thanks for the great report, amigo. Sound like Paris got better..I agree. Paris got better or has now a much bigger lineup. I also noticed that most casas had more girls than my previous trips. I don't know if this trend was because it was the month of December or something else.
World Jockey
01-04-16, 01:51
Thanks man.
Another great and thorough report.
Glad to see your trip went well and without major incident.
So did you ever hook up with any off the whatsapp girls for off the book meetings?
How about any of the night / strip clubs?
If so what was the damage? I guess they know what you pay in house.
Also how were the metro rides? Pretty safe? Quick?
Better than using a taxi?
Another awesome December trip in Medellin. This trip started in the mid December till the end of December 2015. Here are the hightlights...
World Jockey
01-04-16, 02:08
You will be fine.
Sure there may be some bias against dark skin but it won't impede your fun.
As another poster said I have only seen working girls get hesitant in the far east (Indonesia and Cambodia to be precise) and it's more a fear out of too large a cock hurting them.
Just be your charming young lad and they will be cool with you.
As for non-pros who knows?
For all of us YMMV. I imagine age and Spanish skills will probably be the biggest factor when it comes to that.
I have bored of the DR and crave for something new. I have seen that flight prices to Medellin are not too bad so I perused ISG to see how is the P4 P scene there. I have to say I am a bit nervous about going to Medellin because of all of the drug stories you here. Killings, robberies. You know Pablo Escobar type things. I do not and never will use or have anything to do with illegal substances. But has anyone found themselves concerned about this when visiting Medellin?
Second, as always, I am curious about how blacks are treated when visiting working girls. Yes I know a small part of the population in Colombia is black. But how will the SW and massage parlor ladies etc treat you (I. E. A Black American)?
As far as mongering goes a quick look at the forum seems to indicate the girls are in houses in lineup type situations...
Their website now lists past prices for massage and oral only. With 50 COP up charge for sex.
Can someone confirm current pricing for the whole works?
Can someone confirm current pricing for the whole works?I paid 140 K COP this past December.
Soldierb11
01-04-16, 19:58
So just heard from two different sources that yesterday a gringo was down in Parque Lleras eating at Hooters and in front of the mansion on his return he was robbed at gunpoint for his gold watch and couple of gold chains. He was followed it seems by two guys on motos.
Now if we act smart and don't flaunt ourselves down in Colombia, Medellin and especially Poblado are very safe. The disturbing part of this is now the thieves got away with it and are now talking to their buddies "hey there is this large house at the end of that short street above K-tronix and it is filled with stupid rich gringos look at the shit we just pulled off this one guy".
This is bad news because these guys in the future or their buddies they just bragged to might want to come pay a visit again to see who else they can rob.
Bottomline- Guys be smart! Poblado is very safe but nowhere on earth is 100% secure. Act accordingly.
You will be fine.
Sure there may be some bias against dark skin but it won't impede your fun.
As another poster said I have only seen working girls get hesitant in the far east (Indonesia and Cambodia to be precise) and it's more a fear out of too large a cock hurting them.
Just be your charming young lad and they will be cool with you.
As for non-pros who knows?
For all of us YMMV. I imagine age and Spanish skills will probably be the biggest factor when it comes to that.Next month will be my first trip to Mde. But I've experienced the pleasures of the paisas in Panama. They are absolute sweethearts. No issues for us & the whole crew was black.
MikeysHouse
01-04-16, 23:47
I will be going to Medellin at the end of March and I was wondering if there anyone has information on where I could find "semi-pros" at in Medellin (For me a semi pro is one who "dabbles" For example. Cartagena has "Dolce Vita", Rio De Janeiro has / had (Help, Balcony, Maabis) What I'm talking about is a location (Bar / Club) where its kind of assumed that the majority of girls in it are looking to hook up for money. For example in Cartagena the club girls go to for that is Dolce Vita. In Dolce Vita you can find some "Pros" but many of the girls in there are just looking to make extra money for college, English lessons, shopping sprees, etc and you usually never see them in there again. I have read that there are a zillion girls in Parque Lleras and I could approach here. Actually my Spanish and looks are pretty good and I could absolutely "be social" but I wouldn't say that I can "game" them holding the same frame as I would a USA girl. But, Would there be the stigma of being seen with an American be too much for these girls and scare the majority of hotties off in Parque Lleras with this approach?
While I think some of the girls in Mansion are cute, I for the most part am bit pickier and am looking for a higher level. Personally, I'm not into casas or termas or strip clubs where they crank the fucks out. Some monger trips I may end up only hooking up with one girl and this is fine with me if she's a hotty stunner. I've been told to go for waitresses working the clubs but I find it so hard to fathom that a city like Medellin where the monger scene is big and where there are so many hotties running around (whom want and need money) that there is not someplace like this- A Club / Bar or area where the "amateur" or Semi Pro (Who dabbles) is hanging out looking for the rico gringo.
Anybody out there that live in or knows Medellin that can point me in the right direction? Thanks!
Showdown was not asking about an advantage. He was only asking if he would be treated badly.
I have never seen this happen in Colombia. And out of the 100+ countries that I have been to, it has only happened in Singapore and Indonesia. But the reason why it happened in those places was that the hookers or papasans thought that Black guys' dicks were too big. "There will always be a few that don't mind"? LOL. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
What the fuck dude? Thug like attitude? If an Italian came on this board and asked the same thing would you tell him not to bring a mafia-like attitude? And where the hell did you get the rest of this from? You are showing up with second and third hand hearsay. Well I am here with first hand experience. I am Black American and I have been going to Colombia for 11 years with over 50 trips. I have been to Bogota, Cali, Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, and Medellin..Racism is alive and well in Colombia and anyone that says otherwise is either deluded or lying to themselves to make themselves feel better. Do I wish it didn't exist? Of course, but it does. It may be more subtle in Colombia, but it is real. It takes many forms, but it exists. Paisas being the polite people that their culture dictates, they might not be "in your face" about it, but it is there.
I have had two long term relationships in MDE, one with a professional (CPA) and one with a prepago turned "relatively" straight. Both said the same thing. Blacks, in general, are looked down upon in MDE. (Notice I said in general, not 100 percent for you sharp shooters.) It is sometimes as simple as refusing to be seen in public together, or as blatant as refusing a "proposition". Some casa girls refuse to go out on presentation if they see a black guy in the waiting area. I have traveled with black buddies on two different occasions to MDE and experienced racism quite often. I would ask my upscale novia to set up a friend with my buddy and they would refuse, saying her friends would not date black guys. Or I would try to hook up a buddy with someone he saw interesting in Mansion or Phase II via my prepago novia. Often I would get told no. It was embarrassing for me and sucked. And these guys were professional looking, cool guys.
That being said, a black guy will have no trouble finding someone to screw and / or date in MDE. Like any city of 4 million people, they will always have opportunities available. And yes, some of the posters say these girls only see "green". Yes and no. Just like some girls are willing to sleep with fat, balding, smelly gringos only if the price is right, some will sleep with and / or date black guys only if the price is right.
But saying racism doesn't exist because a few black guys had success hooking up with paisas, is just ridiculous and not true. That is as ridiculous as the old "I am not racist because I have black friends. ". MDE may be a wonderful city, but it is still not unicorns and rainbows as far as racism is concerned.
BrooklynYooper
01-05-16, 01:58
I went to New Life today, reasonably easy to find thanks to the good information on here.
You go to the blue door that has a sign saying empuje (push), walk in, then have to be buzzed in through two gates. I felt a little strange when there was no reply to my ringing the bell, but once I got upstairs I realized it was because the place was totally slammed at 1 pm and the guy in charge of the door was running around doing other things.
There were about 12 guys waiting and the chicas were very busy. I was sort of just randomly assigned one, and while I'm sure I could have insisted on another, the whole process was very hurried.
From the waiting area we went down one of several hallways to a small room with bathroom, washed up, and got to it. Not bad, not great. I opted for the 1/2 hour (45,000 CP) and left feeling like I'd had a cheap thrill but not exactly like repeating anytime soon.
I might go check out Energy in a day or two. I'm staying near estadio and happened to see a very hot woman going into New Life today so am likely to check that place out soon. I'm not sure what other people are seeing with the prices for oral only on their website, it looks like the price is 115,000 CP 1/2 hour and 170,000 for full hour. Yeah, more expensive than New Life, but if there is a better selection and more chilled out atmosphere, at these exchange rates it's worth it to me.
One thing I'm really curious about is chicas who are okay with photos. I asked the one at New Life today and she was like no way, I'd never do that. Obviously it varies from person to person, and New Life is not the atmosphere for it with the busy pace, but if anyone has any further information, most definitely PM me.
Colombia Jake
01-05-16, 03:03
Obviously, MDE doesn't reach the level of a "world-class" or "global" city such as London, Berlin, New York. . . I guess Paris would be right behind the main 3.
There's the second tier of major European and American cities (maybe Sidney too although I've never been to Oz) and I would put Medellin and Bogota in the third tier.
Which is fine by me, I've lived in New York all my life (40+ years), and although I haven't "seen it all" or "done it all" it sure feels close sometimes. Yet I'm actually considering moving out of this expensive and overrated city (quality of life here has not improved since the late 90's and may even have gone down a bit) and finding a place that's a bit less stressful.
Your attitude on MDE really does depend on your life circumstances, and what life-stage you're at. Maybe a "bigger" city would suit a guy in his 20's or 30's or an older guy who's always lived in suburban or rural area might not find MDE to be enough city to satisfy his curiosity.
I personally really don't need MDE to be a city filled with things to do or see. On the contrary, I like the idea of moving down there to simplify my life and just focus on one or two things, the chicas being one of those things, LOL.Agree having been to all those cities you mention, this place stood above all the rest because I was in my mid 40's and was no longer able to pull the mid twenties in the states anymore and I was tired of the seasons and extrema hot and cold temperatures. Nobody seems to get it in the states, that this place has the most consistent temperatures of any place I've ever been and I mean perfect for me everyday! If you can get a girlfriend here which is not as easy as guys think its hands down the best city in the world!
Thanks,
Colombia Jake.
Soldierb11
01-05-16, 04:31
But, Would there be the stigma of being seen with an American be too much for these girls and scare the majority of hotties off in Parque Lleras with this approach? Never seen or felt a girl worried about the stigma of being with a gringo.
but I find it so hard to fathom that a city like Medellin where the monger scene is big and where there are so many hotties running around (whom want and need money) that there is not someplace like this- A Club / Bar or area where the "amateur" or Semi Pro (Who dabbles) is hanging out looking for the rico gringo.Sadly there is no place in the world that can approximate the old Help. Medellin should have a place that is at least similar to LDV but it doesn't at all. Which is a shame. The best place for you to try would be a few of the discos in parque lleras area. They will have some working girls and semi-pros mixed in with the tourists and locals hanging out but it isn't at all like LDV.
Mr Enternational
01-05-16, 04:33
Racism is alive and well in Colombia and anyone that says otherwise is either deluded or lying to themselves to make themselves feel better. Do I wish it didn't exist? Of course, but it does. It may be more subtle in Colombia, but it is real. It takes many forms, but it exists. Paisas being the polite people that their culture dictates, they might not be "in your face" about it, but it is there.
But saying racism doesn't exist because a few black guys had success hooking up with paisas, is just ridiculous and not true.Racism exists all over the world, but will it affect you as a traveler is the issue. No it will not. For the most part it will only affect the locals who are out to get an education or a good job, and not a foreigner who comes into the country for a few days with a pocket full of money.
I live in Thailand and you can walk the streets all day long and see dark Thais 10 to 1 to lighter Thais, but step into a bank or an airplane or look on TV and all you will see working are the lighter Thais. Go to a construction site or a rice field and you will not see any lighter Thais. But as far as you being a traveler you will not have problems getting a hotel, eating in a restaurant, or picking up women. I do not know any Black guys who have been turned down by hookers or had hookers hiding from them in Colombia. If there are any on this board then please speak up and tell us of your experience so we can get a first-hand account and not all of the he-say, she-say friend of a friend stuff.
I would ask my upscale novia to set up a friend with my buddy and they would refuse, saying her friends would not date black guys.This is not an example of racism. I have friends who do not date whites and others who do not date Asians, but that is not to say they are racist. That is just to say that that is not their type.
Mr Enternational
01-05-16, 04:48
I will be going to Medellin at the end of March and I was wondering if there anyone has information on where I could find "semi-pros" at in Medellin (For me a semi pro is one who "dabbles" For example. Cartagena has "Dolce Vita", Rio De Janeiro has / had (Help, Balcony, Maabis) What I'm talking about is a location (Bar / Club) where its kind of assumed that the majority of girls in it are looking to hook up for money. For example in Cartagena the club girls go to for that is Dolce Vita. In Dolce Vita you can find some "Pros" but many of the girls in there are just looking to make extra money for college, English lessons, shopping sprees, etc and you usually never see them in there again.You seriously believe that lie they tell about needing money for school, etc? Where is the line of demarcation between semi and pro? Is 20 dicks per month considered dabbling? Should I consider myself semi-employed because I work 4 days/week and I only work to get extra money to pay bills and pick up chicks? Most importantly how would YOU know the difference. A chick could have been working all day in New Life then show up in a Parque Lleras disco with the extra money for school story; how are you to discern whether it is true or not?
True Story Example: We went to Help one night and saw 3 chicks getting out of a taxi. We intercepted them before they could make it to the entrance of the club. We took them to the apartment and later on where did they tell us that they work? Vila Mimosa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvI3cuELtSM&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhvI3cuELtSM&has_verified=1
MikeysHouse
01-05-16, 10:52
You seriously believe that lie they tell about needing money for school, etc? Where is the line of demarcation between semi and pro? Is 20 dicks per month considered dabbling? Should I consider myself semi-employed because I work 4 days/week and I only work to get extra money to pay bills and pick up chicks? Most importantly how would YOU know the difference. A chick could have been working all day in New Life then show up in a Parque Lleras disco with the extra money for school story; how are you to discern whether it is true or not?
True Story Example: We went to Help one night and saw 3 chicks getting out of a taxi. We intercepted them before they could make it to the entrance of the club. We took them to the apartment and later on where did they tell us that they work? Vila Mimosa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvI3cuELtSM&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhvI3cuELtSM&has_verified=1Hey bro,
Debating semantics is not what I'm after. But then again what should I expect from the Medellin board? It is what it is. A bunch of guys like you who would rather debate and argue and chastise rather than be helpful with information. Did I say I can tell the difference of a semi pro? Do I want to be able to tell the difference of a pro vs semi pro? No. I really could give a living shit the "actual"dick count a girl has. I was just looking for a starting point where I could find girls like this (like the places I gave examples of) because "yes" after 10 years I have become pretty god damn good at sniffing out amateurs. This is what makes the game fun for me. My sense is not perfect but that's the fun part because over time they all eventually show who they really are. This is why I game / monger. But who wants to hear about that since it wasn't the reason for my post?-apparently you do. But next time I need your worldly advice about the demarcation line of pro and none pro I will actually ask that question. Or I will be sure and PM you because I can so easily tell you are really smart-just by looking at the font you use and your spacing between words. This I can tell just from your posts.
Its tragic really because there are many guys who monger in Medellin and have serious intel but choose to stay off the board because of the stirrers on this board. I will be sure after my trip to Medellin not to post my epic adventures on this board because of the guys -like you- who will choose totally irrelevant excerpts to stir the pot. But thanks to the 99% majority of you who understood what I was asking and gave me solid answers through the forum and PM. And if you want to try and "be cool" and "look smart" and feel the need to rebuke the comments on my post here -as I'm sure you will-I won't be back to read it so don't bother.
Mikey out.
Black Page
01-05-16, 12:49
So just heard from two different sources that yesterday a gringo was down in Parque Lleras eating at Hooters and in front of the mansion on his return he was robbed at gunpoint for his gold watch and couple of gold chains. He was followed it seems by two guys on motos.
Now if we act smart and don't flaunt ourselves down in Colombia, Medellin and especially Poblado are very safe. The disturbing part of this is now the thieves got away with it and are now talking to their buddies "hey there is this large house at the end of that short street above K-tronix and it is filled with stupid rich gringos look at the shit we just pulled off this one guy".
This is bad news because these guys in the future or their buddies they just bragged to might want to come pay a visit again to see who else they can rob.
Poblado is very safe, but if one is so stupid to go around exhibiting $10 k of gold jewels in a city where the basic salary is less than $500 and where there are gangsters who do not mind to kill for $50, he really deserves all that. Fortunately for him, he was intelligent enough to deliver all things and to not react. It's like swimming in a pool with piranhas thinking you are safe because you entered the water in a corner while piranhas were on the other side.
I don't think that nobody in Mansion warned him to not go out dressed as a Christmas tree. I think he must have simply ignored all warnings.
I find very naif your second statement "The disturbing part of this is now. ". Do you really think that in Medellin nobody knows about this house of gringos, some old-seasoned and some naif? The only strategy is to not attract attention.
Black Page
01-05-16, 13:19
I will be going to Medellin at the end of March and I was wondering if there anyone has information on where I could find "semi-pros" at in Medellin (For me a semi pro is one who "dabbles" For example. Cartagena has "Dolce Vita", Rio De Janeiro has / had (Help, Balcony, Maabis) What I'm talking about is a location (Bar / Club) where its kind of assumed that the majority of girls in it are looking to hook up for money.
For example in Cartagena the club girls go to for that is Dolce Vita. In Dolce Vita you can find some "Pros" but many of the girls in there are just looking to make extra money for college, English lessons, shopping sprees, etc and you usually never see them in there again.
I have read that there are a zillion girls in Parque Lleras and I could approach here. Actually my Spanish and looks are pretty good and I could absolutely "be social" but I wouldn't say that I can "game" them holding the same frame as I would a USA girl. But, Would there be the stigma of being seen with an American be too much for these girls and scare the majority of hotties off in Parque Lleras with this approach?
First, you still seem to have a wrong idea about Cartagena and LDV, in spite of some good things you have written from there.
( By the way, seeing reports like the one posted yesterday in the CTG thread by "Advantageous" certainly cannot help newbies to orient themselves. Used to Sosua, he spent 3 days in CTG staying always in Laguito, eating only in Riquisimo, taking only overpriced girls from web sites or taxi drivers, and finally concluding "I find myself kinda bummed that I didn't take more of my time to check out what is surely a beautiful South American city". He even did not go once in Centro to see the streets (not even the girls). )
What is a "semi-pro" for you? I am not sure we share the same understanding of this word. Many of the girls at LDV are just looking for extra money? Sure. They do it for 1-2 months, fucking 1-2 rich guys per day. Then go back to their home city, often come back to CTG and repeat again. I know a group of girls who come from CTG barrios, have rented an apartment somewhere out of the Centro and have been working in LDV EVERY NIGHT FOR 3 YEARS already (and they are my good friends, so to say).
None of the girls in LDV is there just for one night, to put together some cash. All interpret extensively their role for the whole duration of their trip to CTG. Semi-pro? Self-employed maybe is more appropriate.
Second, you say "in Cartagena the club girls go to for that is Dolce Vita. " So wrong! LDV is the worst place in town (just my opinion, yes). Girls are terribly overpriced and 95% of them definitely not worth, for both their look and the level of service. Not every girl is admitted to LDV. A girl must agree on some "house rule" to be admitted to hook customers there. All girls there are very pro, in my view.
The clubs to go in CTG for independent girls are Opera and Space (after hours), where girls of all kinds from clubs and streets gather after 3am. Not to forget other disco clubs, where some prepagos mix with the crowd of regular people and girls.
No dabbling in CTG! But you can find those who look like dabblers at Reloy (much cheaper too).
Finally, hunting at Parque LLeras? I spent there many nights. Let me tell you: almost all girls there are simply partying. Many have much more money than you can imagine (upper class). Stigma to be with American? Not at all. But also no interest. Upper class girls have money and do not feel that "exotic vibe".
Mixed with regular people, there are also working girls who go there hoping to meet the tourist. You recognize them because they clearly look lower-class. It can be also dangerous. I tried once to talk with two, we went for a drink, one tried to take my cell phone from my pocket while dancing (only tried: I keep my hands on wallet and phone all times when I don't know who is with me).
P.S.: my current best friend in Medellin is a stunning girl who I met in a swinger club where she worked as stripper and dancer (only that). Good things happen when unplanned for. Be open and optimistic. However, for sure I recommend more CTG than MDE to a first-time visitor, if he is not interested to visit casas.
Poblado is very safe, but if one is so stupid to go around exhibiting $10 k of gold jewels in a city where the basic salary is less than $500 and where there are gangsters who do not mind to kill for $50, he really deserves all that. Fortunately for him, he was intelligent enough to deliver all things and to not react. It's like swimming in a pool with piranhas thinking you are safe because you entered the water in a corner while piranhas were on the other side.
I don't think that nobody in Mansion warned him to not go out dressed as a Christmas tree. I think he must have simply ignored all warnings.
I find very naif your second statement "The disturbing part of this is now. ". Do you really think that in Medellin nobody knows about this house of gringos, some old-seasoned and some naif? The only strategy is to not attract attention.They know because the Mansion has been hit before years ago. The guest were robbed but no one was killed.
That guy was stupid for wearing all that bling but at least he was smart enough not to risk dying over those trinkets.
Member #4394
01-05-16, 17:51
a city where the basic salary is less than $500........As for the minimum wage, it is around 700 k peso, $220, a month.
James Dandy
01-05-16, 18:39
Turns out staying at the Mansion doesn't guarantee one's safety. The guy that got shot dead a few months ago wasn't too far from the Mansion either, maybe a block and a half. This recent robbery victim had to know of ISG, being a Mansion guy and all, but he apparently didn't RTFF, or he didn't think the laws of nature apply to him. Better him than me. The only bad news is that he chummed the water attracting more sharks to rob gringos, now that they are getting away with it every time. I hope others learn from this guy's mistakes, because I expect these type crimes will increase in the future.
The guy is lucky he's not dead. There is no guarantee forking over all your jewelry will save your life, like if they don't want to leave a witness, or want to prove something in front of their friends.
Soldierb11
01-05-16, 18:41
I find very naif your second statement "The disturbing part of this is now. ". Do you really think that in Medellin nobody knows about this house of gringos, some old-seasoned and some naif? The only strategy is to not attract attention.Naif? You mean naive? LOL. Hardly. I spent over 20 years running security ops for the Army and then 2 years post retirement doing the same for Blackwater. No where in my post did I say anything about the Mansion being unknown before to the locals. Of course it is, by a lot of people! By last paragraph that you find very "naif" was written to illustrate the fact that once a location is hit successfully its profile rises and the probability of it being hit again rises.
Let me summarize with bulleted comments so I am not misunderstood again.
1- Poblado overall is very very safe place.
2- The best strategy to say is as everyone agrees-- don't make yourself a target (which was the downfall of this guy).
3- Thousands of locals know where the Mansion is and what is.
4- Yes the Mansion was robbed years ago, I was there a week after. Again the guy brought it on himself by showing the contents of his safe to everyone.
5- Once a location has been hit the probability of it being targeted again increases.
Once attention is brought to an individual or location more attention is likely to follow. And that to me is disturbing because the next gringo might be following all the rules, staying safe, not being flashy and he is walking back from making a run to the ATM and he happens to be a victim of the increased attention.
Black Page
01-05-16, 19:15
Turns out staying at the Mansion doesn't guarantee one's safety.I am not a friend of Mansion's guys and I never stayed there, but, excuse me, for God's sake, what should they do more than what they do already to safeguard their guests??
They nurture first-time visitors from USA to Colombia, they take them around the city almost holding their hands, they explain everything, they even welcome single girls to their premises if guests are not willing to go out.
If some people goes to Medellin thinking they go to Anaheim, Disneyland, the hotel management cannot certainly guarantee their safety from the bathroom down to the street.
All the streets around Poblado and Mansion are SAFE, the whole area is nice and the best in town.
If I go to the Centro, I display jewels and then I come back pulling some thugs who follow me on bike, who follow the prey like wolves do with a sheep, it is not certainly fault of the hotel management.
The real issue is that people must understand that security first depends on what we do. Going to Medellin is not like going to Disneyland. The same guy would have not displayed jewels in East St. Louis, in New Orleans, or in many areas of Washington ColUmbia. So the same care must be exercised here.
I am not a friend of Mansion's guys and I never stayed there, but, excuse me, for God's sake, what should they do more than what they do already to safeguard their guests??
They nurture first-time visitors from USA to Colombia, they take them around the city almost holding their hands, they explain everything, they even welcome single girls to their premises if guests are not willing to go out.
If some people goes to Medellin thinking they go to Anaheim, Disneyland, the hotel management cannot certainly guarantee their safety from the bathroom down to the street.
All the streets around Poblado and Mansion are SAFE, the whole area is nice and the best in town.
If I go to the Centro, I display jewels and then I come back pulling some thugs who follow me on bike, who follow the prey like wolves do with a sheep, it is not certainly fault of the hotel management.
The real issue is that people must understand that security first depends on what we do. Going to Medellin is not like going to Disneyland. The same guy would have not displayed jewels in East St. Louis, in New Orleans, or in many areas of Washington ColUmbia. So the same care must be exercised here.No, Medellin is not like Disneyland. Or the other hand, Costa Rica is a man's Disneyland. You even get a BJ from Minnie Mouse!
James Dandy
01-05-16, 20:50
I am not a friend of Mansion's guys and I never stayed there, but, excuse me, for God's sake, what should they do more than what they do already to safeguard their guests??
They nurture first-time visitors from USA to Colombia, they take them around the city almost holding their hands, they explain everything, they even welcome single girls to their premises if guests are not willing to go out.
If some people goes to Medellin thinking they go to Anaheim, Disneyland, the hotel management cannot certainly guarantee their safety from the bathroom down to the street.
All the streets around Poblado and Mansion are SAFE, the whole area is nice and the best in town.
If I go to the Centro, I display jewels and then I come back pulling some thugs who follow me on bike, who follow the prey like wolves do with a sheep, it is not certainly fault of the hotel management.
The real issue is that people must understand that security first depends on what we do. Going to Medellin is not like going to Disneyland. The same guy would have not displayed jewels in East St. Louis, in New Orleans, or in many areas of Washington ColUmbia. So the same care must be exercised here.I didn't say anything about hotel management or imply they are culpable. There is nothing they can do to prevent people from choosing to make themselves targets, and it is not their fault in the least that this guy had a gun in his face. My point was that many think the Mansion is the solution to all their problems, safety (don't have to go to dangerous Centro), getting girls (don't have to lift a finger OR learn Spanish bc they're delivered to your door), etc. In the end, one should learn to take care of himself on all fronts. It's the only and best way.
Some things you need to know. I am not trying to throw nobody or company under the bus.
Staying at mansion means they know you a gringo and you got money to spend on girls = you got money and is carrying money to spend on girls.
Being a older gentlemen and walking around with younger girls = you got money because if it wasn't for the money the girls would leave.
Don't think that you in Southbeach showing jewelry Poblado looks safe but you are still in a 3rd world country and the amount your jewelry is worth of the money you paying to sleep with those chicas could be a salary people could live a year on. In other words compare yourself you a billionaire living in a middle class in America without security and all that of of course you a target.
Turns out staying at the Mansion doesn't guarantee one's safety. The guy that got shot dead a few months ago wasn't too far from the Mansion either, maybe a block and a half. This recent robbery victim had to know of ISG, being a Mansion guy and all, but he apparently didn't RTFF, or he didn't think the laws of nature apply to him. Better him than me. The only bad news is that he chummed the water attracting more sharks to rob gringos, now that they are getting away with it every time. I hope others learn from this guy's mistakes, because I expect these type crimes will increase in the future.
The guy is lucky he's not dead. There is no guarantee forking over all your jewelry will save your life, like if they don't want to leave a witness, or want to prove something in front of their friends.It certainly doesn't. In fact, it's quite a tempting target for the banditos. Everyone knows about the armed break-in / robbery a few years back. However, what's not as widely-known is that every so often someone gets robbed right in front of the house. Typically, they watch someone withdraw money at the Citibank ATM and then a couple guys on a moto drive up and rob them as they fiddle with their keys at the front gate. This latest occurrence is slightly different but the same idea.
FWIW I like the Mansion. Even though I speak Spanish and have been to MDE many times, I usually prefer the social atmosphere in the house over staying in an apartment by myself. However, I'm aware I could still be a target.
It certainly doesn't. In fact, it's quite a tempting target for the banditos.I was in Bogota when there was a series of takeover hotel / hostel robberies. At the downtown hotel that I was staying at, the hotel staff was scared and jittered especially the night staff so they replaced the female night desk clerks with men.
Most of the robberies occurred at hotels / hostels with minimum security. Since the security or the lack of security at the Mansion is comparable to the Bogota hotels / hostels that were robbed, I always thought that the Mansion would be a prime target for a similar takeover robbery.
http://colombiareports.com/tourists-to-bogota-sexually-assaulted-held-hostage-during-series-of-hotel-robberies/
If I recall correctly, the local TV station released CCTV footage from the hotels / hostels of the suspects who committed the robberies. The suspects were identified and arrested, but quickly released without being charged. I'm not sure why they weren't charged, but there was a rumor that they were police officers or well-connected.
Member #4394
01-06-16, 02:53
I'm not sure why they weren't charged, but there was a rumor that they were police officers or well-connected.First, As you indicated, the judicial / political system is corrupt. Judges, govt officials, police, and church receive tons of money from gangs and crime organizations in exchange for supporting them. Secondly, there is no room in any prisons. There are too many criminals in the nation.
Member #4398
01-06-16, 05:50
Thanks man.
So did you ever hook up with any off the whatsapp girls for off the book meetings?
How about any of the night / strip clubs?
If so what was the damage? I guess they know what you pay in house.
Also how were the metro rides? Pretty safe? Quick?
Better than using a taxi?I did not hook up with any girls I got the whatsapp. It is my only regret. I sort of did not want to at that time. Now I wished I did with two I stay in touch. I can't say much about night club, the night life or strip clubs cause I am not a night monger. I made a couple of trips to Parque Llera at night, but by midnight I was getting ready to go to bed. I did not visit any strip clubs so I don't know. I find that I prefer casa hunting in the mornings and afternoons and prefer to sleep at night. The metro rides were great. They are very scenic and you can see the landscape of Medellin in great detail because the metro is not underground. It is super safe, clean and modern. I always saw Police presence in most if not all the terminals. The metro is the Pride of Medellin that everyone respect and care. Even the delinquents and bums respect the Metro so that is not the place they will likely go except for pickpockets you have to watch out during rush hours. It is easy to use, easier to use than NYC subways and much more cleaner, they run quite often and get you to most places in Medellin. They are very crowded during rush hours. Better than the Taxi? It depends of what you want. It is much cheaper than taxis. It is quick. The taxis are just more convenient to use, but you pay more for it. I don't trust taxis anywhere in the world so I only used then if it absolutely necessary.
Cerebro
Black Page
01-06-16, 09:58
I didn't say anything about hotel management or imply they are culpable. There is nothing...........Yes, I fully agree.
Naif? You mean naive? LOL. Hardly. I spent over 20....
Let me summarize with bulleted comments so I am not misunderstood again....Yes, I fully agree with everything. I commented as "Naif" not your overall considerations, but just that small sentence, which out of the context could have been misunderstood.
BTW, my English vocabulary includes both "naif" and "naive". I thought I can use both in the same way. The word is French, and "naif" in French is masculine gender, while "naive" is feminine. I believe that in English the distinction between the two genders got lost (for this word).
Member #4393
01-06-16, 16:05
Turns out staying at the Mansion doesn't guarantee one's safety. The guy that got shot dead a few months ago wasn't too far from the Mansion either, maybe a block and a half. This recent robbery victim had to know of ISG, being a Mansion guy and all, but he apparently didn't RTFF, or he didn't think the laws of nature apply to him. Better him than me. The only bad news is that he chummed the water attracting more sharks to rob gringos, now that they are getting away with it every time. I hope others learn from this guy's mistakes, because I expect these type crimes will increase in the future.
The guy is lucky he's not dead. There is no guarantee forking over all your jewelry will save your life, like if they don't want to leave a witness, or want to prove something in front of their friends.Spot on James Dandy.
The idea that Medellin is a safe city is laughable in the way saying Chicago, Rio, or San Jose, Cr is safe. Would you put your gold watch and chain on and then go stroll around 8 mile all alone, looking lost and all vulnerable?
There are literally thousands of poor people tooling around on their crappy broke azz motorbikes, and they know you are a foreigner. They are watching you for an opening and imagining your money in their pants pocket. Fact. The biggest target for this type of crime is guys walking alone, and it takes about 7 second to stop the bike, rob you and get back on.
Street crime happens all the time in Poblado. You are a target. Once some guys realize this is the reality, they can go from there and have a relatively safe, fun trip. But there will always be risks and hopefully no one reading this (or writing it) is a victim of the street crime in Colombia. Robbers with guns have forced their way into apartments and hotels, held up guys around Park Lleras, shot and killed tourists, Tied up people and robbed safes, and drugged and robbed people using girls as a lure.
If you travel long enough you have a better than good chance you will be robbed at some point. I have, once many years ago. I also have story after story of guys who have been robbed in Colombia.
Taking off your gold watches and chain doesn't abate all risk. Sure it reduces visible targets, but the risk is always there due to the fact that you are a known tourist and perceived as a rich foreigner there to spend money.
If this is out of your comfort zone, don't come. If it is, be street smart and deliberate.
Advantageous
01-06-16, 18:09
(By the way, seeing reports like the one posted yesterday in the CTG thread by "Advantageous" certainly cannot help newbies to orient themselves. Used to Sosua, he spent 3 days in CTG staying always in Laguito, eating only in Riquisimo, taking only overpriced girls from web sites or taxi drivers, and finally concluding "I find myself kinda bummed that I didn't take more of my time to check out what is surely a beautiful South American city". He even did not go once in Centro to see the streets (not even the girls). )
First off, let me say thanks; reading the posts of yours and others helped me get a read on CO.
Now that I got that out the way, it's worth establishing that you don't know me from Adam. I just really got into visiting Sosua over the last year or two, so you're incorrect from your first assumption -- I'm definitely more familiar with AC, Patts, or Tijuana moreso than the Su'. Of those three days, almost the entirety of the first one was spent convincing my wing not to give up on coming be / see he missed his flight. The first thing I did upon getting out of the shower was go for a walk, and after I came up a couple of bucks in the Sun Nao casino, I did get a chance to make my way up to Getsemani and Centro, though it was less about mongering and more about cooling my head while I tried to unfuck my friend's travel situation. So you're 0 for not 2 but 3 now. Eating only in Riquisimo would make sense if I ate one meal a day, which I don't. And neither should you. Pollo Frisby, El Corral, and "that one place I walked to near the Sun Nao that had good food" aren't the kind of places that add anything to a report in my opinion, so I omitted them. 0 for 4.
You've got me on overpriced, but CTG was always going to be the most expensive city on the trip, and it was a first-time visit, so I implicitly understood I wasn't going to get everything at the best prices. 1 for 5 now. And yeah I was sad I didn't get to do more touristy shit in Cartagena. And Saigon. And Osaka. And Las Terrenas. And Siem Reap. You see where I'm going with this?
While I'm honored that my report made you feel some sort of way, I'd respectfully request that you try "reading" my reports as opposed to "seeing" them next time.
RubMeister100
01-06-16, 20:53
First off, let me say thanks; reading the posts of yours and others helped me get a read on CO....Indeed he has a great deal of knowledge on Colombia and the information he posts is valuable. One you get past the routine condescension.
While I'm honored that my report made you feel some sort of way, I'd respectfully request that you try "reading" my reports as opposed to "seeing" them next time.There are a lot of people in this world who simply listen to another person long enough to find an excuse to start talking about themselves.
Then there are guys who only listen to others long enough to find a foothold to start criticizing and belittling the person, but doing so claiming they are only trying to help . And if you don't like their "help" then it is your problem.
As most people likely would, I much prefer reports and information like yours than ones in which I have to endure the routine, reflexive RTFF admonitions and then back and forth until some useful and germaine information is proffered.
A lot of talk about crime and safety. Some figures I bumped into yesterday: http://colombiareports.com/homicides-in-colombia-down-5-in-2015/.
Indeed he has a great deal of knowledge on Colombia and the information he posts is valuable. One you get past the routine condescension.
There are a lot of people in this world who simply listen to another person long enough to find an excuse to start talking about themselves.
Then there are guys who only listen to others long enough to find a foothold to start criticizing and belittling the person, but doing so claiming they are only trying to help . And if you don't like their "help" then it is your problem.
As most people likely would, I much prefer reports and information like yours than ones in which I have to endure the routine, reflexive RTFF admonitions and then back and forth until some useful and germaine information is proffered.Great post RM.
Spot on James Dandy.
The idea that Medellin is a safe city is laughable in the way saying Chicago, Rio, or San Jose, Cr is safe. Would you put your gold watch and chain on and then go stroll around 8 mile all alone, looking lost and all vulnerable?
There are literally thousands of poor people tooling around on their crappy broke azz motorbikes, and they know you are a foreigner. They are watching you for an opening and imagining your money in their pants pocket. Fact. The biggest target for this type of crime is guys walking alone, and it takes about 7 second to stop the bike, rob you and get back on.
Street crime happens all the time in Poblado. You are a target. Once some guys realize this is the reality, they can go from there and have a relatively safe, fun trip. But there will always be risks and hopefully no one reading this (or writing it) is a victim of the street crime in Colombia. Robbers with guns have forced their way into apartments and hotels, held up guys around Park Lleras, shot and killed tourists, Tied up people and robbed safes, and drugged and robbed people using girls as a lure.
If you travel long enough you have a better than good chance you will be robbed at some point. I have, once many years ago. I also have story after story of guys who have been robbed in Colombia.
Taking off your gold watches and chain doesn't abate all risk. Sure it reduces visible targets, but the risk is always there due to the fact that you are a known tourist and perceived as a rich foreigner there to spend money.
If this is out of your comfort zone, don't come. If it is, be street smart and deliberate.Very accurate. Guys that never leave Poblado don't realize how many really poor areas there are in MDE. While it's gotten a lot safer in the last decade, there's still a ton of violent crime. And the bad guys know where to look for juicy targets.
RubMeister100
01-07-16, 00:21
Not to pile on but if the guy was wearing a gold watch and gold chains, then he made himself a target. Frankly, I've never understood jewelery. Seems like pure and simple showing off.
Some thoughts on personal security while abroad, and especially in second or third world areas.
1. No jewelery. No rings, no chains, no watch unless it is a simple and visibly cheap plastic watch. No fancy designer sunglasses.
2. Buy an inexpensive dual sim $75 Android smartphone and leave your "good" phone at home. IPhones are especially noticeable as are the white earbuds.
3. No designer clothes especially with grading labels visible. You do not impress anyone except potential thieves. Wear simple clean pants like jeans and a button up shirt that you let hang over your pants. A T-shirt shows that you are unarmed. A loose fitting shirt over the waist leaves a question mark as to whether you might be armed. Same with overtly high value shoes, like expensive Puma's or Nike's.
4. Whenever possible, no backpack. Maybe a shoulder bag worn across your chest. Zipped up to reduce pickpocketing.
5. Banking and cash.
A. Have enough cash on hand for the day. If you get accosted, hand it over without any fight nor attitude nor smart remark. Even if you are a Krav maga expert.
B. Carry one debit card and your credit card. In separate pockets. Have your debit card limited to whatever you think you might need in a day. Personally, I only ever keep $1,000.00 in my account that is tied to my debit card. That way I am never at risk for more than $1 k thought kidnapping, fraud etc. I transfer money to that account as needed to keep $1 k in it.
C. Use only ATM's in areas you feel are secure.
D. Always cover your hand when entering your PIN. Even if you think it looks like you don't trust the clerk or no one is looking.
6. Self Defense- It is almost never worth fighting over theft of money or property. Nothing you have on your person is worth even breaking your hand over punching the guy in the face.
However, I strongly recommend that anyone take take a few lessons and Krav Maga https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga so that if faced with threats to your physical being that you can respond with more than flailing and girly punches.
Basically, Krav Maga is a collection of brutal, dirty street fighting techniques derived from many martial arts with an underlying philosophy and designed to deliver an immediate and debilitating strike to a threat so that you can run away. Think kicking in the balls, scratching the guys eyes out and sucker punch flat palmed uppercuts to break his nose. Then running away before he gets up. I know it is not "fair" fighting. It is specifically designed as a brutal self-defence system. It is really easy to learn a few basic moves from any one of many local shops worldwide.
Just a few stream of consciousness thoughts to share.
Mr Adventure
01-07-16, 03:55
Indeed he has a great deal of knowledge on Colombia and the information he posts is valuable. One you get past the routine condescension.
There are a lot of people in this world who simply listen to another person long enough to find an excuse to start talking about themselves.
Then there are guys who only listen to others long enough to find a foothold to start criticizing and belittling the person, but doing so claiming they are only trying to help . And if you don't like their "help" then it is your problem.
As most people likely would, I much prefer reports and information like yours than ones in which I have to endure the routine, reflexive RTFF admonitions and then back and forth until some useful and germaine information is proffered.This is the description of an out of control narcissist, whose two main objectives are keeping the spotlight on themselves, and some imagined God-given duty to correct / lecture everyone else, but we already knew that, LOL.
World Jockey
01-07-16, 04:02
Well at least you have their whatsapp. You can keep in touch with them and set things up for the next time you go down.
Hmm So the metro is happening huh. I think I have taken taxis out of sheer laziness. I really ought to be using the tools available.
Thanks for vote of confidence in the metro. I think I will partake on my next trip.
I did not hook up with any girls I got the whatsapp. It is my only regret. I sort of did not want to at that time. Now I wished I did with two I stay in touch. I can't say much about night club, the night life or strip clubs cause I am not a night monger. I made a couple of trips to Parque Llera at night, but by midnight I was getting ready to go to bed. I did not visit any strip clubs so I don't know. I find that I prefer casa hunting in the mornings and afternoons and prefer to sleep at night. The metro rides were great. They are very scenic and you can see the landscape of Medellin in great detail because the metro is not underground. It is super safe, clean and modern. I always saw Police presence in most if not all the terminals. The metro is the Pride of Medellin that everyone respect and care. Even the delinquents and bums respect the Metro so that is not the place they will likely go except for pickpockets you have to watch out during rush hours. It is easy to use, easier to use than NYC subways and much more cleaner, they run quite often and get you to most places in Medellin. They are very crowded during rush hours. Better than the Taxi? It depends of what you want. It is much cheaper than taxis. It is quick. The taxis are just more convenient to use, but you pay more for it. I don't trust taxis anywhere in the world so I only used then if it absolutely necessary.
Cerebro
Member #4398
01-07-16, 05:56
Here are some suggestions for things to do in Medellin:
1)http://www.realcitytours.com/.
http://www.realcitytours.com/#!free-walking-tour / c1 hbi This is great free tour in English. They will show the highlights in the Centro of Medellin and more of the real Medellin.
http://www.realcitytours.com/#!exotic-fruits-tour / c3 bo This is paid tour, but you eat and are shown lots of exotic fruits and were to.
2) Pablo Escobar Tours http://paisaroad.com/tour-pablo-escobar 3 hours tours, very good price 45 K.
3) Guatape http://toursguatape.com/ This is a whole day tour. Good price 69 K with breakfast, lunch, a boat trip, visit couple of cities outside Medellin In Spanish, but you can ask for English translation and pay something extra.
http://toursguatape.com/images/stories/planenglish.pdf
4) Comuna Tour http://www.comuna13tours.com/ This is a fun tour if you want to see a famous Medellin comun and learn about its history, and take the metro cable with the tour group.
5) Bike Tourhttp://www.medellinbiketour.com/.
http://www.medellinbiketour.com/q-a-3
6) Bici Tour http://www.bicitour.co/ Another bike tour company much cheaper than #4.
http://www.bicitour.co/horarios
7) Medellin and Antioquia Tours http://www.turismoenmedellin.com.
http://www.turismoenmedellin.com/turismed/pg1122/sp/sitios-lugares-turisticos-tours-en-medellin#ancla.
http://www.turismoenmedellin.com/turismed/pg1361/sp/tours-en-antioquia#ancla.
8) The tours bellow are offered by Toucan Cafe http://www.toucancafe.co/tour-schedule/.
Coffee tasting experience.
When: Mon to Fri 4 pm 6 pm at Toucan Café.
Price: 20,000 COP (minimum 1 person, maximum 15).
Booking: No need to book, just arrive at 345 pm.
Private Workshop: The Coffee Tasting Experience can be run as a private event. Contact us for more information.
Language: English (Spanish on request).
Barist Workshop.
When: Can be run weekdays 6 8 pm or Saturdays 2 4 pm at Toucan Café.
Price: 100,000 COP per person (minimum 2 people required, maximum 4).
Booking: We recommend you book at least 2 5 days in advance, especially if you prefer our English speaking trainer. Please use the booking form.
Private Workshop: Can be booked as a private event. Prices on request.
Language: English or Spanish.
Half Day tour.
Medellin Graffiti tour.
When: Tuesdays & Thursdays at 2 6 pm, departs from the Toucan Café.
Price: 50,000 COP (part proceeds support the education of local youth).
Booking: Please book 24 hours in advance using the booking form. Or drop by the Toucan Cafe, remember to bring your passport.
Private Tour: this tour can also be run any day of the week as a private tour. Prices on request.
Language: Spanish with Bilingual Guide (English).
Full Day Tours.
Coffee farm and chocolate farm tour.
When: Tours depart on a regular basis when there is a minimum of 5 people. If you are not a group of 5 people, no problem, contact us and we'll group you together with other people.
Tour Price: 140,000 COP (about US $50) part proceeds support the local communities that we visit.
Booking: Please use the booking form. Or drop by the Toucan Cafe, remember to bring your passport.
Private Tour: this tour can also be run any day of the week as a private tour. Prices on request. Please book with 2 days advance notice.
Language: Spanish with Bilingual Guide (English).
Cloud Forest tour.
When: on demand.
Private Tour: this tour currently runs as a private tour only, please ask for prices. Please book with 2 days advance notice.
Booking: Please use the booking form. Or drop by the Toucan Cafe, remember to bring your passport / s.
Language: Spanish with Bilingual Guide (English) if required.
9) Other places and other recommendations http://www.touringmedellin.com/things-to-do-2/.
Thanks to Eric and Jake for a great visit these are now brothers. Introduced me to a great city & casas which I will soon call home and they have the unique tours & chicas GFE for an awesome time & the passion of these girls is nothing short of amazing spend a few bucks come on down they have a great place & will show you the details of this great city and an awesome tour. Bros for life see you soon! As far as the women not much has to be said as they are all amazing and I slept with the first 10 of my life!
Good Advice. Personally I wear what I want, where I want. But for the average person this is all good advice. I only had one problem in Medellin late at night but quickly took care of it in a non violent way. Medellin was no more dangerous then any other large city that I been too.
Not to pile on but if the guy was wearing a gold watch and gold chains, then he made himself a target. Frankly, I've never understood jewellery. Seems like pure and simple showing off.
Some thoughts on personal security while abroad, and especially in second or third world areas.
1. No jewellery. No rings, no chains, no watch unless it is a simple and visibly cheap plastic watch. No fancy designer sunglasses.
2. Buy an inexpensive dual sim $75 Android smartphone and leave your "good" phone at home. IPhones are especially noticeable as are the white earbuds.
3. No designer clothes especially with grading labels visible. You do not impress anyone except potential thieves. Wear simple clean pants like jeans and a button up shirt that you let hang over your pants. A T-shirt shows that you are unarmed. A loose fitting shirt over the waist leaves a question mark as to whether you might be armed. Same with overtly high value shoes, like expensive Puma's or Nike's.
4. Whenever possible, no backpack. Maybe a shoulder bag worn across your chest. Zipped up to reduce pickpocketing.
5. Banking and cash.
A. Have enough cash on hand for the day. If you get accosted, hand it over without any fight nor attitude nor smart remark. Even if you are a Krav maga expert.
Be. Carry one debit card and your credit card. In separate pockets. Have your debit card limited to whatever you think you might need in a day. Personally, I only ever keep $1,000.00 in my account that is tied to my debit card. That way I am never at risk for more than $1 k thought kidnapping, fraud etc. I transfer money to that account as needed to keep $1 k in it.
See. Use only ATM's in areas you feel are secure.
The. ALWAYS cover your hand when entering your PIN. Even if you think it looks like you don't trust the clerk or no one is looking.
6. Self Defense- It is almost never worth fighting over theft of money or property. NOTHING you have on your person is worth even breaking your hand over punching the guy in the face.
However, I strongly recommend that anyone take take a few lessons and Krav Maga https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga so that if faced with threats to your physical being that you can respond with more than flailing and girly punches.
Basically, Krav Maga is a collection of brutal, dirty street fighting techniques derived from many martial arts with an underlying philosophy and designed to deliver an immediate and debilitating strike to a threat so that you can run away. Think kicking in the balls, scratching the guys eyes out and sucker punch flat palmed uppercuts to break his nose. Then running away before he gets up. I know it is not "fair" fighting. It is specifically designed as a brutal self-defence system. It is really easy to learn a few basic moves from any one of many local shops worldwide.
Just a few stream of consciousness thoughts to share.
ElGuapo713
01-08-16, 06:11
Hello all,
I just joined after reading the last 50 pages. Lots of info. I am in my planning stages.
Be. Carry one debit card and your credit card. In separate pockets. Have your debit card limited to whatever you think you might need in a day. Personally, I only ever keep $1,000.00 in my account that is tied to my debit card. That way I am never at risk for more than $1 k thought kidnapping, fraud etc. I transfer money to that account as needed to keep $1 k in it.
See. Use only ATM's in areas you feel are secure.
Good report RubMeister. But I don't even carry a debit card or credit card around with me. I get my money from an ATM and then go straight back to my hotel and put the money and cards in the safe. Same thing with a credit card. I only carry the money I think I will need for the day. And I don't carry a wallet.
Safado1977
01-11-16, 13:54
Making my first trip. Can someone give me the basic info: hotels, locations (to avoid / frequent), clubs, girls, prices etc.
Also, Medellin, Cartagena, or Bogata? Is one better than the other?
I tried going through the the reports, but they are all about robberies and other stuff.
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Making my first trip. Can someone give me the basic info: hotels, locations (to avoid / frequent), clubs, girls, prices etc.
Also, Medellin, Cartagena, or Bogata? Is one better than the other?
I tried going through the the reports, but they are all about robberies and other stuff.
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.It's only January, however, I'm already voting this as 'Post of the Year', LOL.
😋
Black Page
01-11-16, 16:08
It's only January, however, I'm already voting this as 'Post of the Year', LOL.
I always thought that Jackson should set up a second thread of "Reports of Distinction", collecting reports which distinguish themselves but in the other sense. I am not sure what could be a good title.
I also loved to read the "Banned Users Hall of Shame".
Soldierb11
01-11-16, 19:04
It's only January, however, I'm already voting this as 'Post of the Year', LOL.
Yeah this post will be a front runner the whole year long.
Making my first trip. Can someone give me the basic info: hotels, locations (to avoid / frequent), clubs, girls, prices etc.
Also, Medellin, Cartagena, or Bogata? Is one better than the other?
I tried going through the the reports, but they are all about robberies and other stuff.
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.Are you kidding me? Yes there is a lot of bickering and posturing on this thread but there is also a TON of info if you just skim over the other stuff.
For example,
-a few posts back Rubmeister-put out some helpful hints on avoiding being a crime statistic, why is this important? Because an armed robbery just occurred last week at a place many of us stay at.
-4 posts before yours, not 4 pages but 4 posts Cerebro had a good post on things to do besides mongering which is important for those guys mongering on the down low and need excuses for why they visit Colombia or for dudes that just like to add some culture to their pussy.
-Blackpage on 4 pages before had some links to reports of distinction.
-4 pages back as well Cerebro had a good report on his trip.
-before that Mr Adventure had a positive report on Colombia Jake's place, there was newbie to the mansion as well, some guy that mainly was a casa guy.
Once you have read you will know what these following places or services are and where they are located and approximately what they should cost and how guy's are reviewing them.
Medellin- fase 2, the mansion, new life, Colombia Jake, lindas chicas, parque lleras, casas, FB girls.
Cartagena- Hollywood beach, LDV, the pleyclub, the clock tower.
Bogota- solitasparati, santa fe, parque 93, atunes, la piscina.
Skim over the BS. And then come back with more specific questions.
Member #4393
01-11-16, 19:28
It's only January, however, I'm already voting this as 'Post of the Year', LOL.
Pretty funny Ricker.
Charm City Dave
01-11-16, 19:34
Just back from a week (my first) in Medellin. Much thanks to those who have written useful information in this forum. It is worth reading through all the bickering and nonsenses to gain that valuable info. I've been out of the game for a bit, but was a frequent traveler to Rio in the late 90's early 2000's. I've done the DR, CR and Thailand, so I have some experience with mongering trips. With this report I will try to focus on things I didn't find in the forum, had divergent points of view or perhaps wondered about.
I spent the first 4 nights at Jakes and last for nights at the Mansion can give my point of view on the relative strengths and weaknesses of those two choices. At the Mansion, was fortunate to meet veteran ISG contributor Geolopes and his friends, who I call the four horsemen of the apussylips. They are longtime friends who monger together. I was appreciative and privileged that they included me in their circle. I hope to meet up with them again.
I arrived in MDE late Friday night, January 1st knowing that at least for the rest of the holiday weekend action would be slow. Got a sim card for my unlocked old AT&T Samsung galaxy S3 in the Verano shop on the 2nd floor of the airport across from the ATMs. Was 41 K for 40 minutes of talk and 600 GB of data. I didn't run out of either on the trip. Was glad I had the phone loaded as the Taxi driver had a hard time finding Jakes place and having the phone helped quite a bit. I learned that the Medellin address system leaves much to be desired and having a phone with GPS is IMOP indispensable. Also of course getting phone numbers for whatsapp will allow you to build you own stable of putas. My new S6 phone stayed in the safe my entire trip. Airport ATMs were hit or miss that night and needed to try several machines with two of my cards to get 600 k in cash.
Much has been written on Jake, his accommodations, his girls and other services. I know he has his boosters and detractors. I can only write my point of view and have no interest in joining the debate. Someone had described the furnishing and rooms as Frat House in character and I cannot disagree with this. He is on the fourth floor of a walkup in a nice condo building which increases privacy. He did graciously provide assistance for me getting my bags up and down those stairs. Rooms are private and quiet, bed was comfortable and each room has a safes. Jake provides plenty of clean towels, soap and shampoo. Internet connectivity and speed were excellent.
For most of my stay, only one other guest was in residence which perhaps led to a more private and peaceful experience. The apartment has a much lower profile then the Mansion and is in more of a residential than commercial area. It may be a little safer, less of a target. It is also walking distance to the Poblado Metro station which I took advantage of to explore the city. Jake has no AC which only bothered me on one warm afternoon. Rooms do have fans. I never had to wait for the bathroom or shower (which are shared except for one small room), but again two rooms were empty. No meals are included but there is an excellent breakfast place three blocks away.
Jake has a gentleman living with him, Eric who assists with tours and other support. I really enjoyed hanging with Eric, he is a real gentleman who will bend over backwards to help you out. I appreciated him hooking me up on that last NFL Sunday to watch my game. I took the casa tour with Eric that first Saturday knowing that things would be a little dead. I could have found all the casas myself with the map on ISG but had a good time hanging with Eric, Steve and the other gentleman who accompanied us. We visited New Life, Club de Amigas Sexy and Energy. Skeleton crews were on hand and I did not session at any, but decided to revisit Energy during the week. Eric also gives a brief tour of the downtown area, a bit of history and local color.
For the important part, the girls. First off, Jakes fee is just an introduction fee and you are still expected to pay the girls (Jake recommends 300 k). I hadn't realized that when I reserved with Jake as he makes no mention of that on his site and some might conclude that the $75 is all inclusive. It is still good value for the money, especially for a newbie.
I had Jake set me up with two of his 'GFE' dates. The first girl was a sold 8+ girl next store type who was a 10+ in the sack. I enjoyed my date with her. Dinner, dancing which we both enjoyed and especially our time in bed. See arrived dressed like a college kid (which she is) out for the night. She seemed genuinely interested in me and was glad I had studied enough Spanish (Pimsler) to hold a basic conversation with her, perhaps establish a connection. Google translator filled in the gaps. If I didn't get her off many times that night, she should get an academy award. She was without doubt the best lay of my trip and alone made my time at Jakes more than worth it.
The second date was a 9+ truly gorgeous girl. She came dressed like a puta and I felt like more of a target being out with her dressed that way. She made much less of an effort to establish a connection and we didn't go dancing because I could tell she had no interest. The only thing I hate worse in bed than a bad actress, is a girl who is unwilling to try to put in an act. In bed she was clearly not interested, so I just let her give me a BBBJTC. It was excellent and the girl clearly had skills, but for me a BJ is foreplay and I was left unsatisfied with the whole experience. YMMV.
After four pleasant days at Jakes I headed over to the Mansion. Accommodations at the Mansion are a bit nicer. Rooms have private baths, safes and in room fridges (at Jakes you can put stuff in the kitchen fridge). Wireless was not a great as Jake's, but decent nonetheless. And for some reason the Mansion does not provide shampoo. Also a larger number of Mongers on hand at the Mansion will ensure you have a group of guys to hang with and there will be veterans on hand to advise you. Staff is very service conscious and can pretty much provide any service you require. Was lucky to meet the proprietor Aussy Greg as well.
The draw of the Mansion is the onsite Putas who seem to start to drift in shortly after breakfast (included). By the evening, Putas outnumbered available mongers. I'the say most are in the 7 - 9 range with a few outliers on both end of the spectrum. Girl there tend to be thin (I suspect nose candy has something to do with that), some bolt-ONS which I hate, but you can find all types and sizes there.
I did four sessions at the Mansion. Three singles and one doubles. The three single sessions were good but not great. A reasonable effort at acting was made, but I believe it was acting nonetheless. Seems 150 k is the standard fee. All the GFE requirements were met, all the girls asked for a condom for the BJ but agreed to BBBJ with no additional propina or hassle. The doubles session was a highlight of my stay. Someone there recommended I take a specific girl for that and let her pick her partner.
I've done doubles all over the world and am often disappointed with the tag team approach you often get fucking one girl at time while the other is disengaged. I made clear I wanted a porn experience with everyone fucking or sucking something at all times, and that is what I got. The girls went at each other for about 15 minutes before I dove in and the room had that pleasant pussy smell before I even started in. Excellent session. Girls asked for an extra 50 k each for the session (400 k total) and it was well worth it.
I did one session at Energy. Girl wanted a 50 k propina for the BBBJ but settled for 30 k. Not GFE but she was such a great lay, I have to say I did enjoy it.
A few other thoughts. Much has been written here of security and the armed robbery that occurred outside the Mansion while I was there. I felt a little safer than I did in Rio late 90's or so when I was robbed at gunpoint. Perhaps I was just lucky.
I don't think they have the roving wolf packs of kids that Rio or the prevalence of con men like the beach front shoe shine guys who would sling shit on your shoes when you aren't looking and insist on cleaning it off for an outrageous price. I was warned of pickpockets and noticed many men on the metro had shoulder bags (carried in front), to forestall them. I bought one on my first day. There is much poverty there and in some places the desperation is palpable. I didn't go anywhere in the city without inquiring as to safety as there are parts of town you want to avoid. And certainly the bandits know who the gringos are and where to find them. Veterans including Aussy Greg advised me things there are getting worse, not better.
I tried to remain as inconspicuous as I could, went out with nothing I could not part with, had spare credit and ATM cards in the safe and so forth. I never felt unsafe but knew I could be a target at any time. On check-in at the Mansion I was surprised by the number of keys I was given, you have to pass through three locked doors just to get into the lobby. I would be willing to pay a few more bucks per night to have a security guard stationed in front of the Mansion at night.
One final note, I found most of the food excellent, fresh and inexpensive. If you are downtown, be sure to visit Salon Versalles for an excellent Empanada. Much else to do in Medellin, but that has been well covered. Don't miss the cable cars. Yada Yada Yada.
It's only January, however, I'm already voting this as 'Post of the Year', LOL.
Guess he doesn't know any better. Probably would if he payed the 20 bucks and pm'ed somebody.
Member #4393
01-11-16, 20:04
Just back from a week (my first) in Medellin. Much thanks to those who have written useful information in this forum. It is worth reading through all the bickering and nonsenses to gain that valuable info. I've been out of the game for a bit, but was a frequent traveler to Rio in the late 90's early 2000's. I've done the DR, CR and Thailand, so I have some experience with mongering trips. With this report I will try to focus on things I didn't find in the forum, had divergent points of view or perhaps wondered about.
I spent the first 4 nights at Jakes and last for nights at the Mansion can give my point of view on the relative strengths and weaknesses of those two choices. At the Mansion, was fortunate to meet veteran ISG contributor Geolopes and his friends, who I call the four horsemen of the apussylips. They are longtime friends who monger together. I was appreciative and privileged that they included me in their circle. I hope to meet up with them again.
I arrived in MDE late Friday night, January 1st knowing that at least for the rest of the holiday weekend action would be slow. Got a sim card for my unlocked old AT&T Samsung galaxy S3 in the Verano shop on the 2nd floor of the airport across from the ATMs. Was 41 K for 40 minutes of talk and 600 GB of data. I didn't run out of either on the trip. Was glad I had the phone loaded as the Taxi driver had a hard time finding Jakes place and having the phone helped quite a bit. I learned that the Medellin address system leaves much to be desired and having a phone with GPS is IMOP indispensable. Also of course getting phone numbers for whatsapp will allow you to build you own stable of putas. My new S6 phone stayed in the safe my entire trip. Airport ATMs were hit or miss that night and needed to try several machines with two of my cards to get 600 k in cash...Nice report. Maybe Jake has taken the criticism to heart and cleaned up the place a little? Who knows? In any event not getting stuck in the maids quarters or the porch probably contributed to your good experience as well as the good experience with one of his girls and Eric's friendship. But 300 k for short time plus a $25 surcharge for introduction? That is crazy compared to the going rate in Mde and in fact exceeds the standard rate for todo la noche.
As for your description of the mansion, pretty good. One thing though is that many people stay at the mansion often often bring in girls that don't hang around all the time. Those girls that are there all day tend to get banged frequently and personally I don't prefer them that are getting hammered so much. If you are getting the girls hanging around all day, they are. Sometimes at night you get girls who just come by a few times a week, those can be gems. There are many girls in Mde that part time the game and that is my preference, but on your first trip meeting those girls can be very difficult.
As far as safety, the area Jake's apartment is in is called patio bonito and I know at least one guy who was robbed walking around there, knife to the throat. See my prior post about motorcycle robberies. It isn't safer than the area the mansion is in, nor is it more unsafe. It is actually pretty much the same. Best to walk in pairs if you can.
The Tall Man
01-11-16, 23:08
It's only January, however, I'm already voting this as 'Post of the Year', LOL.
I second that, jajajaja.
The Tall Man.
Quagmire1974
01-11-16, 23:10
Just back from a week (my first) in Medellin. Much thanks to those who have written useful information in this forum. It is worth reading through all the bickering and nonsenses to gain that valuable info. I've been out of the game for a bit, but was a frequent traveler to Rio in the late 90's early 2000's. I've done the DR, CR and Thailand, so I have some experience with mongering trips. With this report I will try to focus on things I didn't find in the forum, had divergent points of view or perhaps wondered about.
I spent the first 4 nights at Jakes and last for nights at the Mansion can give my point of view on the relative strengths and weaknesses of those two choices. At the Mansion, was fortunate to meet veteran ISG contributor Geolopes and his friends, who I call the four horsemen of the apussylips. They are longtime friends who monger together. I was appreciative and privileged that they included me in their circle. I hope to meet up with them again...Excellent trip report. Thank you for taking the time to share what you experienced. And about this:
"First off, Jakes fee is just an introduction fee and you are still expected to pay the girls (Jake recommends 300 k)"
Yeah, that's called PIMPING.
The Tall Man
01-11-16, 23:18
Just back from a week (my first) in Medellin. Much thanks to those who have written useful information in this forum. It is worth reading through all the bickering and nonsenses to gain that valuable info. I've been out of the game for a bit, but was a frequent traveler to Rio in the late 90's early 2000's. I've done the DR, CR and Thailand, so I have some experience with mongering trips. With this report I will try to focus on things I didn't find in the forum, had divergent points of view or perhaps wondered about.
I spent the first 4 nights at Jakes and last for nights at the Mansion can give my point of view on the relative strengths and weaknesses of those two choices. At the Mansion, was fortunate to meet veteran ISG contributor Geolopes and his friends, who I call the four horsemen of the apussylips. They are longtime friends who monger together. I was appreciative and privileged that they included me in their circle. I hope to meet up with them again.
I arrived in MDE late Friday night, January 1st knowing that at least for the rest of the holiday weekend action would be slow. Got a sim card for my unlocked old AT&T Samsung galaxy S3 in the Verano shop on the 2nd floor of the airport across from the ATMs. Was 41 K for 40 minutes of talk and 600 GB of data. I didn't run out of either on the trip. Was glad I had the phone loaded as the Taxi driver had a hard time finding Jakes place and having the phone helped quite a bit. I learned that the Medellin address system leaves much to be desired and having a phone with GPS is IMOP indispensable. Also of course getting phone numbers for whatsapp will allow you to build you own stable of putas. My new S6 phone stayed in the safe my entire trip. Airport ATMs were hit or miss that night and needed to try several machines with two of my cards to get 600 k in cash.
Much has been written on Jake, his accommodations, his girls and other services. I know he has his boosters and detractors. I can only write my point of view and have no interest in joining the debate. Someone had described the furnishing and rooms as Frat House in character and I cannot disagree with this. He is on the fourth floor of a walkup in a nice condo building which increases privacy. He did graciously provide assistance for me getting my bags up and down those stairs. Rooms are private and quiet, bed was comfortable and each room has a safes. Jake provides plenty of clean towels, soap and shampoo. Internet connectivity and speed were excellent.
For most of my stay, only one other guest was in residence which perhaps led to a more private and peaceful experience. The apartment has a much lower profile then the Mansion and is in more of a residential than commercial area. It may be a little safer, less of a target. It is also walking distance to the Poblado Metro station which I took advantage of to explore the city. Jake has no AC which only bothered me on one warm afternoon. Rooms do have fans. I never had to wait for the bathroom or shower (which are shared except for one small room), but again two rooms were empty. No meals are included but there is an excellent breakfast place three blocks away.
Jake has a gentleman living with him, Eric who assists with tours and other support. I really enjoyed hanging with Eric, he is a real gentleman who will bend over backwards to help you out. I appreciated him hooking me up on that last NFL Sunday to watch my game. I took the casa tour with Eric that first Saturday knowing that things would be a little dead. I could have found all the casas myself with the map on ISG but had a good time hanging with Eric, Steve and the other gentleman who accompanied us. We visited New Life, Club de Amigas Sexy and Energy. Skeleton crews were on hand and I did not session at any, but decided to revisit Energy during the week. Eric also gives a brief tour of the downtown area, a bit of history and local color.
For the important part, the girls. First off, Jakes fee is just an introduction fee and you are still expected to pay the girls (Jake recommends 300 k). I hadn't realized that when I reserved with Jake as he makes no mention of that on his site and some might conclude that the $75 is all inclusive. It is still good value for the money, especially for a newbie.
I had Jake set me up with two of his 'GFE' dates. The first girl was a sold 8+ girl next store type who was a 10+ in the sack. I enjoyed my date with her. Dinner, dancing which we both enjoyed and especially our time in bed. See arrived dressed like a college kid (which she is) out for the night. She seemed genuinely interested in me and was glad I had studied enough Spanish (Pimsler) to hold a basic conversation with her, perhaps establish a connection. Google translator filled in the gaps. If I didn't get her off many times that night, she should get an academy award. She was without doubt the best lay of my trip and alone made my time at Jakes more than worth it.
The second date was a 9+ truly gorgeous girl. She came dressed like a puta and I felt like more of a target being out with her dressed that way. She made much less of an effort to establish a connection and we didn't go dancing because I could tell she had no interest. The only thing I hate worse in bed than a bad actress, is a girl who is unwilling to try to put in an act. In bed she was clearly not interested, so I just let her give me a BBBJTC. It was excellent and the girl clearly had skills, but for me a BJ is foreplay and I was left unsatisfied with the whole experience. YMMV.
After four pleasant days at Jakes I headed over to the Mansion. Accommodations at the Mansion are a bit nicer. Rooms have private baths, safes and in room fridges (at Jakes you can put stuff in the kitchen fridge). Wireless was not a great as Jake's, but decent nonetheless. And for some reason the Mansion does not provide shampoo. Also a larger number of Mongers on hand at the Mansion will ensure you have a group of guys to hang with and there will be veterans on hand to advise you. Staff is very service conscious and can pretty much provide any service you require. Was lucky to meet the proprietor Aussy Greg as well.
The draw of the Mansion is the onsite Putas who seem to start to drift in shortly after breakfast (included). By the evening, Putas outnumbered available mongers. I'the say most are in the 7 - 9 range with a few outliers on both end of the spectrum. Girl there tend to be thin (I suspect nose candy has something to do with that), some bolt-ONS which I hate, but you can find all types and sizes there.
I did four sessions at the Mansion. Three singles and one doubles. The three single sessions were good but not great. A reasonable effort at acting was made, but I believe it was acting nonetheless. Seems 150 k is the standard fee. All the GFE requirements were met, all the girls asked for a condom for the BJ but agreed to BBBJ with no additional propina or hassle. The doubles session was a highlight of my stay. Someone there recommended I take a specific girl for that and let her pick her partner.
I've done doubles all over the world and am often disappointed with the tag team approach you often get fucking one girl at time while the other is disengaged. I made clear I wanted a porn experience with everyone fucking or sucking something at all times, and that is what I got. The girls went at each other for about 15 minutes before I dove in and the room had that pleasant pussy smell before I even started in. Excellent session. Girls asked for an extra 50 k each for the session (400 k total) and it was well worth it.
I did one session at Energy. Girl wanted a 50 k propina for the BBBJ but settled for 30 k. Not GFE but she was such a great lay, I have to say I did enjoy it.
A few other thoughts. Much has been written here of security and the armed robbery that occurred outside the Mansion while I was there. I felt a little safer than I did in Rio late 90's or so when I was robbed at gunpoint. Perhaps I was just lucky.
I don't think they have the roving wolf packs of kids that Rio or the prevalence of con men like the beach front shoe shine guys who would sling shit on your shoes when you aren't looking and insist on cleaning it off for an outrageous price. I was warned of pickpockets and noticed many men on the metro had shoulder bags (carried in front), to forestall them. I bought one on my first day. There is much poverty there and in some places the desperation is palpable. I didn't go anywhere in the city without inquiring as to safety as there are parts of town you want to avoid. And certainly the bandits know who the gringos are and where to find them. Veterans including Aussy Greg advised me things there are getting worse, not better.
I tried to remain as inconspicuous as I could, went out with nothing I could not part with, had spare credit and ATM cards in the safe and so forth. I never felt unsafe but knew I could be a target at any time. On check-in at the Mansion I was surprised by the number of keys I was given, you have to pass through three locked doors just to get into the lobby. I would be willing to pay a few more bucks per night to have a security guard stationed in front of the Mansion at night.
One final note, I found most of the food excellent, fresh and inexpensive. If you are downtown, be sure to visit Salon Versalles for an excellent Empanada. Much else to do in Medellin, but that has been well covered. Don't miss the cable cars. Yada Yada Yada.The below post mentioned right below as being nominated for "post of the year" was purely sarcasm, your fine post is truly a great post with relevant information and opinions about your experiences. Thanks for sharing.
The Tall Man.
Charm City Dave
01-12-16, 02:52
Nice report. Maybe Jake has taken the criticism to heart and cleaned up the place a little? Who knows? In any event not getting stuck in the maids quarters or the porch probably contributed to your good experience as well as the good experience with one of his girls and Eric's friendship. But 300 k for short time plus a $25 surcharge for introduction? That is crazy compared to the going rate in Mde and in fact exceeds the standard rate for todo la noche.
As for your description of the mansion, pretty good. One thing though is that many people stay at the mansion often often bring in girls that don't hang around all the time. Those girls that are there all day tend to get banged frequently and personally I don't prefer them that are getting hammered so much. If you are getting the girls hanging around all day, they are. Sometimes at night you get girls who just come by a few times a week, those can be gems. There are many girls in Mde that part time the game and that is my preference, but on your first trip meeting those girls can be very difficult.
As far as safety, the area Jake's apartment is in is called patio bonito and I know at least one guy who was robbed walking around there, knife to the throat. See my prior post about motorcycle robberies. It isn't safer than the area the mansion is in, nor is it more unsafe. It is actually pretty much the same. Best to walk in pairs if you can.I actually loved the view from 'the porch' and considered taking it. The maids quarters was a bit claustrophobic for me and so even though it had its own bath I passed on it. As for the price, agree pricey for MDE. For the first girl he gave me well worth it. She was with me for at least 5 hours. The 2nd not so much. Some of the girls at the mansion were only there a few days a week, others seemed to be there daily, but didn't catch onto that till the end. Then again the award winning doubles I had were from girls I think are there all the time.
Someone was shot at the Safeway 1 mile from my home in Colombia MD. Shit happens everywhere and I stand by my observation that Jake's area seemed safer to me.
IslandMonger
01-12-16, 08:30
Greetings gents,
Thanks to many who contribute to this great forum. After mongering several other locations around the Caribbean and Central America, I am obsessed with making Medellin my next destination. I've RTFF, but curious about one aspect I have not seen mentioned.
Even though I'm planning my first trip, I wanted to bypass the Mansion / Colombia Jake route and rent an apartment, visit the Casa's and strip clubs and find that diamond in the rough by hitting some street action. My concern is that even with addresses and maps of Casa's provided on the forum, they are not "obvious" with signs or advertisements, so even with an address, how does the first time visitor locate it? I certainly don't want to be wondering the streets of Medellin with a map of smart phone in hand, unsure of where I'm going, perhaps standing right in front of my destination like a dumb ass and not know it. I've read many posts by first timers going solo their first trip without incident, but I'm a little worried about the navigation. Should I bite the bullet and stay a day or two at the Mansion just to partake in the Casa tours, or do you think I will be fine without it?
FYI, I usually travel with a wingman but will likely make this trip solo. I'm street smart enough to not act like an idiot but in reality, I am an obvious gringo at 6'1" 250 with brown hair and green eyes, so "blending in" is unlikely. I have basic Spanish skills and can hold light conversation, but too detailed or fast speaking and they loose me. Am I setting myself up to be a target by going solo?
SushiLover69
01-12-16, 17:33
My concern is that even with addresses and maps of Casa's provided on the forum, they are not "obvious" with signs or advertisements, so even with an address, how does the first time visitor locate it?Street and door numbers are written above the doors.
Member #4393
01-12-16, 17:54
I actually loved the view from 'the porch' and considered taking it. The maids quarters was a bit claustrophobic for me and so even though it had its own bath I passed on it. As for the price, agree pricey for MDE. For the first girl he gave me well worth it. She was with me for at least 5 hours. The 2nd not so much. Some of the girls at the mansion were only there a few days a week, others seemed to be there daily, but didn't catch onto that till the end. Then again the award winning doubles I had were from girls I think are there all the time.
Someone was shot at the Safeway 1 mile from my home in Columbia MD. Shit happens everywhere and I stand by my observation that Jake's area seemed safer to me.I think "seemed" is the pertinent word here. The vicinity around the little park in Patio Bonito behind the Exito is a known place to get mugged, for example. Behind the area, avenida Las Vegas gets its fair share of criminal activity. Patio Bonito is a great neighborhood, don't get me wrong, but don't be fooled in complacency. Also, the mansion is just up the street and over avenida Poblado anyway, you are basically dealing with the same neighborhood dynamics. I would feel comfortable staying at either place and would use the same precautions at either location.
Thanks again for taking the time to express your opinions about your stay in Mde.
Use bing or google maps street view to search the addresses and look at the surrounding area. You can take a lot of mystery out of it by knowing what the location and surrounding buildings look like before you are in the neighborhood.
Greetings gents,
Thanks to many who contribute to this great forum. After mongering several other locations around the Caribbean and Central America, I am obsessed with making Medellin my next destination. I've RTFF, but curious about one aspect I have not seen mentioned.
Even though I'm planning my first trip, I wanted to bypass the Mansion / Colombia Jake route and rent an apartment, visit the Casa's and strip clubs and find that diamond in the rough by hitting some street action. My concern is that even with addresses and maps of Casa's provided on the forum, they are not "obvious" with signs or advertisements, so even with an address, how does the first time visitor locate it? I certainly don't want to be wondering the streets of Medellin with a map of smart phone in hand, unsure of where I'm going, perhaps standing right in front of my destination like a dumb ass and not know it. I've read many posts by first timers going solo their first trip without incident, but I'm a little worried about the navigation. Should I bite the bullet and stay a day or two at the Mansion just to partake in the Casa tours, or do you think I will be fine without it?
FYI, I usually travel with a wingman but will likely make this trip solo. I'm street smart enough to not act like an idiot but in reality, I am an obvious gringo at 6'1" 250 with brown hair and green eyes, so "blending in" is unlikely. I have basic Spanish skills and can hold light conversation, but too detailed or fast speaking and they loose me. Am I setting myself up to be a target by going solo?
Advantageous
01-12-16, 21:45
I've read many posts by first timers going solo their first trip without incident, but I'm a little worried about the navigation. Should I bite the bullet and stay a day or two at the Mansion just to partake in the Casa tours, or do you think I will be fine without it?
Went for my first time at the end of Nov; traveled with and without my wingman to a casa or two and never had a problem (the exception being Aiffe, where I'm still positive I was standing at the door next to it or something) finding places. Definitely +1-ing the Google Street recommendation; with it, places like the entrance to New Life and Ejecutiva were easier to find than they would've been without. Using Uber also helps, since you can set a destination and even opt for an English-speaking driver. As long as you're confident that you can remain aware of your surroundings, go for it.
Street and door numbers are written above the doors.IslandMonger may know this, but here is an explanation of the address numbers. Let's use New Life as an example. The address is Calle 56 #43-39. The numbers above the door are 43-39. First, you must get on Calle 56. The 43 indicates the cross street where the second numbers start incrementing. So the cross street is Carrera 43 and you will go towards Carrera 45 on Calle 56 until you get to number 39. Just like in the US, all the odd numbers are on one side of the street and the even numbers are on the other side.
Also IslandMonger, I think you will be okay in an apartment since you are familiar with Latin countries. I always travel solo. I have visited Medellin many times, but I have not wondered around downtown much. When I go downtown, I make a list of all the places I want to visit, with the address. Before leaving the apartment, I look at a map and get an idea where each place is located in relation to others. Then, I only need to pull a small piece of paper from my pocket to get the address of where I am going. I use the Metro to get downtown, get off at Parque Berrio, and walk from there. I have been told by various locals to not go to the Prado Metro station, may be a little dangerous. The first time I went downtown solo, I went to the Prado station, and nothing bad happened. Even the chica at New Life told me I should not go there, but that was after the fact.
Member #4398
01-13-16, 05:14
I spent the first 4 nights at Jakes and last for nights at the Mansion can give my point of view on the relative strengths and weaknesses of those two choices. At the Mansion, was fortunate to meet veteran ISG contributor Geolopes and his friends, who I call the four horsemen of the apussylips. They are longtime friends who monger together. I was appreciative and privileged that they included me in their circle. I hope to meet up with them
For most of my stay, only one other guest was in residence which perhaps led to a more private and peaceful experience. The apartment has a much lower profile then the Mansion and is in more of a residential than commercial area. It may be a little safer, less of a target. It is also walking distance to the Poblado Metro station which I took advantage of to explore the city.
A few other thoughts. Much has been written here of security and the armed robbery that occurred outside the Mansion while I was there. I felt a little safer than I did in Rio late 90's or so when I was robbed at gunpoint. Perhaps I was just lucky.
I don't think they have the roving wolf packs of kids that Rio
One final note, I found most of the food excellent, fresh and inexpensive. If you are downtown, be sure to visit Salon Versalles for an excellent Empanada. Much else to do in Medellin, but that has been well covered. Don't miss the cable cars. Yada Yada Yada.Very nice report thanks for sharing. That will help many decide about choosing either Jake or the Mansion and what they are getting into. I enjoy reading your report. I guess I stayed near Jakes place because the Pitstop hostel is in patio bonito near the Poblado metro stop and the exito supermarket. For the most part, it is a very safe area and for sure is safer than most areas in Rio which I plan to do a trip soon. I walked alone late at night all the time with no incidents (area is quite isolated late a night) and felt comfortable doing so and alone. I was cautious never complacent and alert thought and had my running sneakers on just in case prepared to run LOL. There are areas in Newark and Camden New Jersey I would not come alive if I walked as I did in that patio bonito area.
Mr Adventure
01-13-16, 23:45
Excellent trip report. Thank you for taking the time to share what you experienced. And about this:
"First off, Jakes fee is just an introduction fee and you are still expected to pay the girls (Jake recommends 300 k)"
Yeah, that's called PIMPING.Semantics aside, both the Mansion and Jake are doing the same thing, the fee is included in the room charge. Also, the high end escort agencies get a cut or some kind of fee from the escorts as well as the casas, etc. No free rides, LOL.
Naturally if a guy has the experience / skills to deal with independents without getting eaten alive, drugged or worse, he doesn't need either. But for guys like me who aren't there yet, it's a great option, and just think of it as a sort of trip insurance.
Now back to the latest string of helpful posts.
Mr Adventure
01-14-16, 00:09
Got a sim card for my unlocked old AT&T Samsung galaxy S3 in the Verano shop on the 2nd floor of the airport across from the ATMs. Was 41 K for 40 minutes of talk and 600 GB of data. I didn't run out of either on the trip. Was glad I had the phone loaded as the Taxi driver had a hard time finding Jakes place and having the phone helped quite a bit. I learned that the Medellin address system leaves much to be desired and having a phone with GPS is IMOP indispensable..In my office I had 3 telephones, a fax, a cellphone, a Motorola, and usually was "on call", ALL of which I was glad to get away from upon retiring. I am ignorant with regard to smart phones and have been using a $20 flip up disposable for years. I need an inexpensive phone that I can put google translate on, and use mapping, etc. Guessing that the unlocked galaxy G3 (see them for $119 up) mentioned would fit the bill?
I just figure the easiest way to get what I need is to copy what works for someone else. Unless there is a better choice, opinions?
Charm City Dave
01-14-16, 00:53
In my office I had 3 telephones, a fax, a cellphone, a Motorola, and usually was "on call", ALL of which I was glad to get away from upon retiring. I am ignorant with regard to smart phones and have been using a $20 flip up disposable for years. I need an inexpensive phone that I can put google translate on, and use mapping, etc. Guessing that the unlocked galaxy G3 (see them for $119 up) mentioned would fit the bill?
I just figure the easiest way to get what I need is to copy what works for someone else. Unless there is a better choice, opinions?Yes, if the battery does not hold a charge well, you can get a generic one on Amazon for like $10.
Member #4394
01-14-16, 04:22
Whereas pimping is illegal in Colombia, I have been wondering what the technical / legal definition of pimping is in Colombia. As other member said, casas and clubs take cut, and it appears to be no problem. I wonder if anybody know, not guess, about it.
Whereas pimping is illegal in Colombia, I have been wondering what the technical / legal definition of pimping is in Colombia. As other member said, casas and clubs take cut, and it appears to be no problem. I wonder if anybody know, not guess, about it.'
''El que con nimo de lucrarse o para satisfacer los deseos de otro, constria a cualquier persona al comercio carnal o a la prostitucion"
Article 214.
http://perso.unifr.ch/derechopenal/assets/files/legislacion/l_20130808_01.pdf
Mr Enternational
01-14-16, 12:12
I need an inexpensive phone that I can put google translate on, and use mapping, etc. Guessing that the unlocked galaxy G3 (see them for $119 up) mentioned would fit the bill?
I just figure the easiest way to get what I need is to copy what works for someone else. Unless there is a better choice, opinions?Just be careful because you are talking about buying antiquated technology. It is like pens and pencils came out but you want to buy a mallet and chisel whose operating system may no longer support the present version of the application called paper. You couldn't cheap out and put caveman era stone slabs that you got at a discount because they were outdated into the modern fax machine you had in your office. You needed a more modern application called paper that was compatible with it. Your device may physically last forever, but each day they make the applications more advanced, which soon outdate your phone rendering it obsolete and useless.
Mr Adventure
01-14-16, 12:28
Just be careful because you are talking about buying antiquated technology. It is like pens and pencils came out but you want to buy a mallet and chisel whose operating system may no longer support the present version of the application called paper. You couldn't cheap out and put caveman era stone slabs that you had laying around into the fax machine you had in your office. You needed a more modern application called paper that was compatible with it..Seems the S3's I saw were the minis, but have found several s4's under $200. Also found a comparo on youtube between s3,4 5. Since I'm starting from scratch, think the s4 will be a better choice, and hopefully modern enough, without being something I would hesitate to give up if being robbed.
Mr Enternational
01-14-16, 12:43
Seems the S3's I saw were the minis, but have found several s4's under $200. Also found a comparo on youtube between s3,4 5. Since I'm starting from scratch, think the s4 will be a better choice, and hopefully modern enough, without being something I would hesitate to give up if being robbed.See I had the original S which I had no problems with it working but over time became very slow and would no longer support some apps. I was finally forced to buy the new S5 in April 2014 because of that. I kept my S to use as an mp3 player and overaeas phone but it could only support up to a 32 gb SD card (newer phones can support 128gb cards).
A few months ago I bought a J1 for my mp3 player and overseas phone and gave the S to my 7 year old nephew as a starter phone. That reminds me that you should search other models of Samsung besides the S. I paid $100 for a new J1 in Thailand and came back to the States and saw the same phone for $149 at Microcenter computer store. (Looks like you can get them for as cheap as $89 now.) So you could actually buy a brand new J or A model for less than buying a used S3 or S4 model.
Member #4394
01-14-16, 14:37
Thank you. The term applies to casas, clubs, and escorts as well.
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''El que con nimo de lucrarse o para satisfacer los deseos de otro, constria a cualquier persona al comercio carnal o a la prostitucion"
Article 214.
http://perso.unifr.ch/derechopenal/assets/files/legislacion/l_20130808_01.pdf.
Black Page
01-14-16, 15:00
Swithout being something I would hesitate to give up if being robbed.The point is that, in some contexts, what is not attractive for us could be very attractive for others who do not have our income.
My feeling is that you could bring your S6 in the same places where you are safe to bring an S3, e.g., LLeras or most places on the higher end, because an S3 is already a stellar device for desperate ones. I had no problems in bringing my S5 (MY main precious phone) to Luna Lunera, for example. But no way I would display it at night in any bar of Centro, or even at day time I would never go around the streets using Google Maps on a smartphone.
I am trying to say that, in my perspective, rather than reducing the damage IF I am robbed, more broadly I aim at simply reducing the risk to be robbed (which is a nuisance in any case).
When I travel to countries where there could be problems, I bring my S5, to be used in all normal contexts, and a poor plain old GSM phone which should not be attractive for almost anyone. This phone below was with me in many dingy places in Bangladesh, India, Ghana, Uganda, Indonesia, Malesia... (for USA and South America I must use another one, similar to this, working on the other GSM band)
P.S. : this kind of phones is often called "flecha" in Colombia. Guess why? Because they say that it is the phone used by indios in the jungle.
Hasideas Tao
01-14-16, 17:12
Think of me as a humble, respectful friend who you know in Medellin!
I am grateful for the many new friends I have already made this way. Some of whom have even chosen to stay with me on their return visits.
If it is only for an afternoon, I am an efficient communicator in English as well as Spanish and I can give you an intelligent lay of the land and help you form a feasible game plan!
I will save you a lot of time with up to date info about girls and activities going on in the city, what is old news, point out places for a good local style meal, the best days and nights for particular clubs, casas and bars as well as knowledge of safe barrios where the regular girls still think foreigners are exotic. (If you are serious about finding a true diamond in the rough you have to dig a little.).
I understand the excitement and satisfaction of venturing out alone. Yet I also know from years of experience, the time spent with someone who knows the city is priceless simply by making efficient use of time, getting pointed in the right direction and avoiding common mistakes. PM me if interested. I also have a direct line to the US and many other kinds of useful contacts and information I am happy to share.
Greetings gents,
Thanks to many who contribute to this great forum. After mongering several other locations around the Caribbean and Central America, I am obsessed with making Medellin my next destination. I've RTFF, but curious about one aspect I have not seen mentioned.
Even though I'm planning my first trip, I wanted to bypass the Mansion / Colombia Jake route and rent an apartment, visit the Casa's and strip clubs and find that diamond in the rough by hitting some street action. My concern is that even with addresses and maps of Casa's provided on the forum, they are not "obvious" with signs or advertisements, so even with an address, how does the first time visitor locate it? I certainly don't want to be wondering the streets of Medellin with a map of smart phone in hand, unsure of where I'm going, perhaps standing right in front of my destination like a dumb ass and not know it. I've read many posts by first timers going solo their first trip without incident, but I'm a little worried about the navigation. Should I bite the bullet and stay a day or two at the Mansion just to partake in the Casa tours, or do you think I will be fine without it?
FYI, I usually travel with a wingman but will likely make this trip solo. I'm street smart enough to not act like an idiot but in reality, I am an obvious gringo at 6'1" 250 with brown hair and green eyes, so "blending in" is unlikely. I have basic Spanish skills and can hold light conversation, but too detailed or fast speaking and they loose me. Am I setting myself up to be a target by going solo?
I need an inexpensive phone that I can put google translate on, and use mapping, etc. Guessing that the unlocked galaxy G3 (see them for $119 up) mentioned would fit the bill?If you want a new, inexpensive phone, look at the BLU brand. They are all unlocked from the manufacturer. I have bought a few for chicas, and they work well. You can find used Samsung's on Ebay for $100 or less if you buy them on auction. I like a smaller phone to carry in my pocket, so the Samsung mini's work for me.
If you want a new, inexpensive phone, look at the BLU brand. They are all unlocked from the manufacturer. I have bought a few for chicas, and they work well. You can find used Samsung's on Ebay for $100 or less if you buy them on auction. I like a smaller phone to carry in my pocket, so the Samsung mini's work for me.I bought a BLU last year on Amazon: "BLU Studio see 5+5 Smartphone with Lollipop OS- Global GSM Unlocked. Black". Aprox $90.
I used it in Medi and bought a sim card there. Worked great. Very fast. I also got a 32 GB memory card to use with it.
Charm City Dave
01-14-16, 22:32
Just be careful because you are talking about buying antiquated technology. It is like pens and pencils came out but you want to buy a mallet and chisel whose operating system may no longer support the present version of the application called paper. You couldn't cheap out and put caveman era stone slabs that you got at a discount because they were outdated into the modern fax machine you had in your office. You needed a more modern application called paper that was compatible with it. Your device may physically last forever, but each day they make the applications more advanced, which soon outdate your phone rendering it obsolete and useless.Good point. I upgraded from the S3 to the S6 cause my aviation apps were slowing down. That said the S3 was more than sufficient for my needs in MDE. Also good point someone made on not flashing even an S3 on the streets of MDE. My last lay who was there while I started packing asked if she could have it, even a 3 year old Samsung would have been an upgrade for her. On the few occasions I had to consult it while out and about I ducked into a store and did so as inconspicuously as I could.
Speaking of the cell phone, a man was killed yesterday in El Centro during a cell phone robbery.
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/hombre-fue-asesinado-en-parque-de-berrio-por-robarle-el-celular-LC3433148
IslandMonger
01-15-16, 05:44
Thank you gents for all the comments and suggestions. Today I found out a group of friends are heading to Jaco for a bachelor party so I'm taking the opportunity to go with them, which means I have to put my Medellin plans on hold. I've mongered in CR twice but never Jaco, and I can tell my wife about this trip instead of having to sneak away with a BS excuse, so it's too good a chance to pass up. Hopefully I can still get away later this year and head to Medellin.
Mr Enternational
01-15-16, 10:32
Arrived in centro tonight about 12. All the hotels were full for this weekend so the only one I was able to find was 4 blocks down from the De Greiff hookers. Good deal for 35k but it was a long walk from where the bus drops off. As usual no boogeymen out to get me walking from the bus to my hotel with bags. We cut across Palacio and down through Carabobo. There were tons of street walkers to guide our way - and many of them very decent. Looked like a few could be working in Fase 2. I finally saw a glue sniffer. She was inhaling from a black plastic bag. For some reason I thought it was paper bags that they used.
We checked in our hotel. My first words when I walked in were do you know who I am? She said yes, you are the guy who called Tuesday night and booked the 5 rooms (one guy didn't come). I said exactly and are they ready? She said I have a single for 3 people but the 4th will have to stay in a family room for tonight. That was cool with us. I liked the receptionist and continued to run game. I asked her why they never answer the email (most places here do not so I just assumed they didn't either). She said of course we do. I said no that is the reason I had to call because nobody responded to my email. I asked if she could hear me when I called. She said I could only make out the beginning and end of what you were saying. I said that is because I was calling from Skype. But it would be better if you would give me your personal number so we can communicate better.
We headed for the usual haunts. I am with my young cousin and his friend who are new mongers and my main wingman who has never been to Colombia before, but we have been to most other countries together in the last 15 years. He is the one who started me going to Rio way back when. We started out in Conejitas but it was pretty much dead since it was so late. Before I even finished my drink I was ready to head to Barra Ejecutiva.
We went in and ordered a half bottle of Medellin Rum and 2 Pepsis for 53k. There were some nice chicks there as usual. I asked one girl with bolt-ons (which I never like) her price. She said 80k for her and 15k for the room. I showed rejection in my face and she immediately dropped to 85k all together. I told her I would think about it. Another chick came over and was 70k all inclusive. I told her that I definitely wanted her and to come back in a few minutes. She didn't come back so I went with the next girl who came to the table. She also wanted 70k for all. A good decision it was. She was a beast in the sack.
When I got back downstairs my cousin and his buddy were already gone. My wingman said they had gone outside. I figured they had gone next door to Maracaibo. We went over there and found my cousin and he said his boy had taken 2 girls up for 70k. That didn't sound right. When he came back he said he had paid 160k in all. He said the session was okay but he didin't get to finish. I told him to stop trying to romance and treat it like boxing. Stick and move. Save the romancing for when you get an apartment in Poblado and invite expensive facebook and website prepagos over.
We went back down to see what kind of hookers were still left on De Greiff. All the bars had closed but there were still some good girls out. I told my cousin's friend to go ahead and pick one to finish up the job. He called a girl over and asked her name. As soon as she replied I said man fuck that and asked the girl how much to go to the room. Get to the damn point. No Kool-Aiding should be done on De Greiff. She said 35k for her and 14k for the room. Okay cool. 49k. What! This mf said he didn't have any more money on him. How are you going to negotiate and don't have money. He invited the girl back to our hotel and an older hooker came as well to accompany her friend. I can't wait to find out how that turned out.
Tomorrow is Friday so of course it will be on and poppin. We will start out with the casas in the early afternoon and then hit my special spot about 6 pm. By 8 we should be back to the bars around de Greiff and in Conejita's about 9:30. We may end up changing hotels tomorrow if we can find something available. The guys say they would rather stay closer to de Greiff or Barra Ejecutiva.
RedTibetan23
01-15-16, 12:38
I'm headed down to Medellin for a week in a few weeks on a spur of the moment trip. Been there once before. I am staying at the Mansion for 3 days in the middle, as it's an easy having the girls on-site plus I don't speak much Spanish. That said, I couldn't get a room for the entire time and I've got 2 nights on each end that I need to determine where to spend and what to do. I'm thinking a private apartment in Poblado, and bringing in some online Chicas for the first 2 nights. Is backpage dependable in Medellin? Any thoughts on where to spend the other 2? I like to mix up Sessions with better-quality chicks with the occasional "just fuck them hard, CIM, and leave" types. When I was in Buenos Aires recently, there were a few independent girls you could find on Argentina Private which were positive experiences. Am I just missing that in this forum?
I know it's important to contribute to this forum, so I will when the time comes. While I don't have a lot of posts yet, I Just purchased a membership in November and did some reports on Rio. I've also did some posts on Argentina Private from a trip in December (under a different name). So I'm hoping you guys will take my request for guidance seriously. I'm not looking to just "take" - and help increase the chances of a great trip for me. Feel free to PM me.
Thanks
Colombia Jake
01-15-16, 15:47
Semantics aside, both the Mansion and Jake are doing the same thing, the fee is included in the room charge. Also, the high end escort agencies get a cut or some kind of fee from the escorts as well as the casas, etc. No free rides, LOL.
Naturally if a guy has the experience / skills to deal with independents without getting eaten alive, drugged or worse, he doesn't need either. But for guys like me who aren't there yet, it's a great option, and just think of it as a sort of trip insurance.
Now back to the latest string of helpful posts.Andy, is here from Chicago and would be considered a big guy heavy lets say. Did the parachute tour and though we had to wait for a bigger seat and certain pilot, we got him up and away! Wednesday I was invited to play a Colombian game called Tejo which a little like horse shoes, but adds an element of fireworks, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxekTBz82Jk so he came along with a nice friendly group of foreigners and we had a lot of fun! Last night he went on a date and had his first Reggaeton Dance night with his GFE! For you non dancers you just stand there and she rubs her behind in your crotch kind of like a lap dance another words it takes no skill, and its great foreplay for you! Brian is also here and took part in a motorcycle tour last night, and will take a Reggaeton GFE tonight! Others can try to tear down what we do here, but nobody really cares! We are trip insurance to make sure you have safe fun time, and that's all that matters!
Thanks,
Colombia Jake.
Member #4398
01-15-16, 20:06
I'm headed down to Medellin for a week in a few weeks on a spur of the moment trip. Been there once before. I am staying at the Mansion for 3 days in the middle, as it's an easy having the girls on-site plus I don't speak much Spanish. That said, I couldn't get a room for the entire time and I've got 2 nights on each end that I need to determine where to spend and what to do. I'm thinking a private apartment in Poblado, and bringing in some online Chicas for the first 2 nights. Is backpage dependable in Medellin? Any thoughts on where to spend the other 2?
Thankshttp://www.amobladosla70medellin.com/ office at cra70 no 45 E93.
These apartments are not in Poblado. They are in in the town of Laureles, another nice middle class type of area near la avenida 70 which lots of bars and restaurants and is near the estadio metro station. I got a very nice apt there, safe and discreet apt. , a regular apt with no doorman and obnoxious neighbors near, in a very safe and fun area for just 90 k or about 30 usd per night.
Cerebro
Soldierb11
01-15-16, 20:19
I'm headed down to Medellin for a week in a few weeks on a spur of the moment trip. Been there once before. I am staying at the Mansion for 3 days in the middle, as it's an easy having the girls on-site plus I don't speak much Spanish. That said, I couldn't get a room for the entire time and I've got 2 nights on each end that I need to determine where to spend and what to do. I'm thinking a private apartment in Poblado, and bringing in some online Chicas for the first 2 nights. Is backpage dependable in Medellin? Any thoughts on where to spend the other 2? I like to mix up Sessions with better-quality chicks with the occasional "just fuck them hard, CIM, and leave" types. When I was in Buenos Aires recently, there were a few independent girls you could find on Argentina Private which were positive experiences. Am I just missing that in this forum?
ThanksFirst thing I would do is email the Mansion every couple of weeks to see if there have been cancellations. If nothing opens up you could either get an apartment the first two days, a chica friendly hotel or even give Jake a try. Guys with no spanish and no experience here survive without jake or the mansion so it can be done but it is an option. Regardless where you stay I would hit some casas and strip clubs at night and gather some numbers and do the same your 3 nights in the mansion and then your 2 days at end of trip just stay in apartment and invite your favorites back.
Speaking of the cell phone, a man was killed yesterday in El Centro during a cell phone robbery.
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/hombre-fue-asesinado-en-parque-de-berrio-por-robarle-el-celular-LC343314814 murders so far this year scary shit especially centro killing in broad daylight.
Black Page
01-16-16, 06:39
Speaking of the cell phone, a man was killed yesterday in El Centro during a cell phone robbery.
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/hombre-fue-asesinado-en-parque-de-berrio-por-robarle-el-celular-LC3433148It was not my red Nokia I am sure.
Mr Enternational
01-16-16, 16:19
We went and got food across from Parque Bolivar then started our casa run. First stop as usual was chicaspunto. I boned the midget. 40k for 30 minutes. She said out of that she gets 25k and 15k goes to the house. The girls who work there also have to play maid/janitor. It tripped me out when she went and got a mop to clean the room afterwards.
Next stop was another place where I don't know the name or address. I just know how to get there. As the line up was coming out I was on my phone talking to chicks on whatsapp. One girl went and complained that I had a phone out and a guy came out and told me no phones could be out. I put my phone up but still no girls were coming back out. Soon a mamasan came out and started beotching about phones again. I told her that I put it up when the guy came out. She went on and on until finally 4 of us left and my other buddy stayed there to bang a chick.
Next stop was New Life. Celeste was the one that I took. She was just my type. 45k for 30 minutes. I came out of the room feeling like a new man. My wingman wanted to get the plastic chick and had the Black girl with the jiggly ass as his backup but he was too slow on the draw and someone had gotten both of them by the time he had decided. I didn't find that out until I came out of the room and went to the cashier and saw him sitting with another chick. I thought he was going for round 2. Turned out he hadn't even done round 1. While I was in the room I got a message from the other guys saying they were about to run to another casa but would be back to New Life shortly so do not leave. Whenever the girls do a session they record it on a card. Most of the girls had the front of their card used about 3/4 of the way down. The plastic chick had the front of hers filled and was half way down the back. Not sure how long they use each card for.
We left New Life and headed to Parque Lleras so the new guys could make a reservation for the Escobar tour. We stopped at Medellin Beer Factory, which is across from Bancolombia, to eat. Cool ass Advantageous came to meet us up there and we all took 2 Ubers back downtown to Conejita's. The one I paid for came to 8700 pesos and I remember the taxi from centro costing 11k pesos. Traffic going to PL may account for the difference.
Conejita's was live and poppin. Advantageous bought a carton of rum and I got 2 drinks in before I had to head off to my girl's house in Quinta Linda. One thing I noticed this time that I had not noticed before is that several girls from the casas were moonlighting in Conejita's. One girl who works at New Life kept staring at us then finally came up all excited saying she recognized us from New Life earlier that day. I said you are just realizing that? It is funny because this same thing happens in several mongering destinations. The same girls will work different venues that have different price points. In this case you save getting them at New Life for 45k over Conejita's's 60k. And some of these could may well be the prepagos that some of you guys are paying 200 and 300k to come to your Poblado apartments.
Update: I got the scoop from my cousin's friend that the girl he brought from De Greiff the night before said they had to go back to the hotel there to get it on. He said fuck that and let her go back. Him and my cousin went back out to De Greiff at 4am and found more chicks to bring back. My cousin's friend brought 2 for himself. LOL. Those young guys's lives have officially been ruined, or bettered, depending how you look at it.
Mr Enternational
01-16-16, 16:56
All of that how you look, how you dress, blending in, and if you can pass for Colombian stuff is all bullshit. I was walking through downtown at night with my other wingman and we ran into a couple more Black American guys (father & son). I had greeted them with a "What's up?" earlier in Barra Ejecutiva. Now they were looking for Conejita's. We were going that way so we said we would take them there. So 4 Black guys all with jeans and golf, button down, and tshirts (me) on walking down the street. There is a Black Colombian guy about 10 meters from us walking in the other direction towards us. He yells out Gringos! We all just broke out laughing. Don't fool yourself. They know you from a mile away regardless.
Mr Enternational
01-16-16, 23:22
I stand corrected about the cards at New Life. I went today and hit Viviana with the fake ass. She taught me about the cards. The cards are assigned to each room. Then the girls who used the rooms have their name and times and whatever was purchased for them written on the card.
By the way she said her ass is silicone injections and cost 2 million. It will last forever with the proper exercise. Implants would have cost 5 million.
World Jockey
01-17-16, 02:27
Just about any cheap ($100 range) android based phone should serve its purpose.
Most apps like google translate should work fine on them.
As for service plans, for many years I would carry a carrier unlocked and get a local sim.
Depending on the country getting a SIM can be an easy or annoying experience.
Although didn't find Colombia to be in the annoying camp.
However times have changed. US carriers like my friends at t-mobile are offering competitive ("free") prices for roaming data.
This with the fact that many people are now using data, WiFi and messenger apps to communicate these days make that appealing.
In my office I had 3 telephones, a fax, a cellphone, a Motorola, and usually was "on call", ALL of which I was glad to get away from upon retiring. I am ignorant with regard to smart phones and have been using a $20 flip up disposable for years. I need an inexpensive phone that I can put google translate on, and use mapping, etc. Guessing that the unlocked galaxy G3 (see them for $119 up) mentioned would fit the bill?
I just figure the easiest way to get what I need is to copy what works for someone else. Unless there is a better choice, opinions?
World Jockey
01-17-16, 02:59
LOL.
Sometimes blending in works if you keep your mouth shut and don't look too lost.
In Asia forget it.
But yes that is pretty dam funny story LOL.
As for father and son.
The family that mongers together stays together.
All of that how you look, how you dress, blending in, and if you can pass for Colombian stuff is all bullshit. I was walking through downtown at night with my other wingman and we ran into a couple more Black American guys (father & son). I had greeted them with a "What's up?" earlier in Barra Ejecutiva. Now they were looking for Conejita's. We were going that way so we said we would take them there. So 4 Black guys all with jeans and golf, button down, and tshirts (me) on walking down the street. There is a Black Colombian guy about 10 meters from us walking in the other direction towards us. He yells out Gringos! We all just broke out laughing. Don't fool yourself. They know you from a mile away regardless.
Mr Enternational
01-17-16, 09:03
My crazy ass wingman had me walking through downtown at 2 am making Crackhead Documentaries. Going up to people putting the phone in their face saying foto, foto. I had my Galaxy S5 while he had his whatever phone he has. No problems. Some were glad to be stars in the videos and fotos and have the attention, while others were not so happy about it. We did meet an old lady who was selling pussy for 20 k and some nice young chicks (25,25, 19) who were smoking weed together and selling pussy for 20 k as well.
All of that how you look, how you dress, blending in, and if you can pass for Colombian stuff is all bullshit. I was walking through downtown at night with my other wingman and we ran into a couple more Black American guys (father & son). I had greeted them with a "What's up?" earlier in Barra Ejecutiva. Now they were looking for Conejita's. We were going that way so we said we would take them there. So 4 Black guys all with jeans and golf, button down, and tshirts (me) on walking down the street. There is a Black Colombian guy about 10 meters from us walking in the other direction towards us. He yells out Gringos! We all just broke out laughing. Don't fool yourself. They know you from a mile away regardless.I think it has more to do with speaking in English. I usually travel alone, and very few bums or other people bother me either in Santa Fe or Centro in Medellin. But when my dad and I were together (both Black Americans) in Colombia last fall, we were walking down the streets speaking English to each other at night in Santa Fe, and the bums came out of the woodwork asking for money.
Member #4398
01-17-16, 16:19
All of that how you look, how you dress, blending in, and if you can pass for Colombian stuff is all bullshit. I was walking through downtown at night with my other wingman and we ran into a couple more Black American guys (father & son). I had greeted them with a "What's up?" earlier in Barra Ejecutiva. Now they were looking for Conejita's. We were going that way so we said we would take them there. So 4 Black guys all with jeans and golf, button down, and tshirts (me) on walking down the street. There is a Black Colombian guy about 10 meters from us walking in the other direction towards us. He yells out Gringos! We all just broke out laughing. Don't fool yourself. They know you from a mile away regardless.Thanks for the reports and updates Mr. Enternational. Blending will never work that way. It works for me cause I do it alone and a pair the most. A large group of black men even if they dress like Colombians will not blend in Medellin since most Paisas are white. Black guys are not walking in groups and that was easily seen by the Colombian black guy as an abnormality. By the way, what's up with that favorite casa of your that never share the name and location? Last year, you did the same and did not give the name or location. Can you share the name or one of your entourage? Keep having fun and reporting and share that casa's name and location for heaven's shake LOL.
James Dandy
01-17-16, 16:21
My crazy ass wingman had me walking through downtown at 2 am making Crackhead Documentaries. Going up to people putting the phone in their face saying foto, foto. I had my Galaxy S5 while he had his whatever phone he has. No problems. Some were glad to be stars in the videos and fotos and have the attention, while others were not so happy about it. We did meet an old lady who was selling pussy for 20 k and some nice young chicks (25,25, 19) who were smoking weed together and selling pussy for 20 k as well.Stay classy. Now we know why the casa didn't want you clowns using cell phones the other day. Pretty cool using your $500 phone to make fun of people that haven't had shoes in three years, then brag to your "friends" on the internet with photo proof, as if we've never seen homeless people.
Iguana Six
01-17-16, 16:53
My crazy ass wingman had me walking through downtown at 2 am making Crackhead Documentaries. Going up to people putting the phone in their face saying foto, foto. I had my Galaxy S5 while he had his whatever phone he has. No problems. Some were glad to be stars in the videos and fotos and have the attention, while others were not so happy about it. We did meet an old lady who was selling pussy for 20 k and some nice young chicks (25,25, 19) who were smoking weed together and selling pussy for 20 k as well.Sounds more like an episode of ******* than serious mongering. I am reminded of this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYz00UQfiPk
World Jockey
01-17-16, 16:59
I'd go as far to say once you start speaking period the gig is up.
Speaking Spanish with an English accent gives your gringo status as speaking English itself.
Often times when I am in the Americas with my chatty wingman in the I remind him to keep conversation to a minimal.
I think it has more to do with speaking in English. I usually travel alone, and very few bums or other people bother me either in Santa Fe or Centro in Medellin. But when my dad and I were together (both Black Americans) in Colombia last fall, we were walking down the streets speaking English to each other at night in Santa Fe, and the bums came out of the woodwork asking for money.
My crazy ass wingman had me walking through downtown at 2 am making Crackhead Documentaries. Going up to people putting the phone in their face saying foto, foto. I had my Galaxy S5 while he had his whatever phone he has. No problems. Some were glad to be stars in the videos and fotos and have the attention, while others were not so happy about it. We did meet an old lady who was selling pussy for 20 k and some nice young chicks (25,25, 19) who were smoking weed together and selling pussy for 20 k as well.Here's a photo of a paisa I met in Panama. In case you all don't want to see crack heads.
Sounds more like an episode of ******* than serious mongering. I am reminded of this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYz00UQfiPkHa ha ha ha ha ha ha. That shit is funny. Good analogy.
Mr Enternational
01-17-16, 19:38
Stay classy. Now we know why the casa didn't want you clowns using cell phones the other day. Pretty cool using your $500 phone to make fun of people that haven't had shoes in three years, then brag to your "friends" on the internet with photo proof, as if we've never seen homeless people.Dude everyone has a gay or a dope fiend in their family. It is not about making fun of anyone. I am from the streets and have seen it all 30 times. And you don't think that homeless people like to have fun too? The point is that everyone on this board is so scared shitless of their own damn shadow (do this, don't do that, wear this, don't wear that) but I have proved time and time again in downtown Medellin and Santa Fe in Bogota that there is nothing to be scared of AND you can wear what the fuck you want. Or maybe the people out to do harm can sense the fear of a mark no matter what they have on or what they are carrying, and will try that person.
As far as using a phone in a casa, that has nothing to do with nothing. You can walk into most casas including New Life and use your phone all day long and nobody will say shit to you. In the strip clubs and certain other casas you can even take pictures in the common areas as we were doing yesterday. So as far as I am concerned that was a one off thing and had nothing to do with being a clown as you call it.
Classy in a hohouse? LOL. That is a good one.
James Dandy
01-17-16, 20:07
Dude everyone has a gay or a dope fiend in their family. It is not about making fun of anyone. I am from the streets and have seen it all 30 times. And you fon't think that homeless people like to have fun too? The point is that everyone on this board is so scared shitless of their own damn shadow (do this, don't do that, wear this, don't wear that) but I have proved time and time again in downtown Medellin and Santa Fe in Bogota that there is nothing to be scared of AND you can wear what the fuck you want. Or maybe the people out to do harm can sense the fear of a mark no matter what they have on or what they are carrying, and will try that person.
As far as using a phone in a casa, that has nothing to do with nothing. You can walk into most casas including New Life and use your phone all day long and nobody will say shit to you. In the strip clubs and certain other casas you can even take pictures in the common areas as we were doing yesterday. So as far as I am concerned that was a one off thing and had nothing to do with being a clown as you call it.
Classy in a hohouse? LOL. That is a good one.So your intent was to tell us how brave you are, not that you're an idiot taking unnecessary risks, or abusive to the downtrodden? I get it now.
Mr Enternational
01-17-16, 20:14
So your intent was to tell us how brave you are, not that you're an idiot taking unnecessary risks, or abusive to the downtrodden? I get it now.If you call being around other human beings brave, then I guess you do get it.
RedTibetan23
01-17-16, 23:25
First thing I would do is email the Mansion every couple of weeks to see if there have been cancellations. If nothing opens up you could either get an apartment the first two days, a chica friendly hotel or even give Jake a try. Guys with no spanish and no experience here survive without jake or the mansion so it can be done but it is an option. Regardless where you stay I would hit some casas and strip clubs at night and gather some numbers and do the same your 3 nights in the mansion and then your 2 days at end of trip just stay in apartment and invite your favorites back.Much appreciated. I think a chica friendly hotel is the way to go, as last time I was there I spent part of the time in an apartment building with a doorman and didn't want to deal with that aspect. I assume I will find that info by RTFF!
Black Page
01-18-16, 05:44
My crazy ass wingman had me walking through downtown at 2 am making Crackhead Documentaries. Going up to people putting the phone in their face saying foto, foto. I had my Galaxy S5 while he had his whatever phone he has. No problems. Some were glad to be stars in the videos and fotos and have the attention, while others were not so happy about it. I don't see the fun.
Try again until you meet these guys (Bronx, Bogota). They might be happy to explain, with practical demonstration, that in a safari one could meet antelopes but also lions.
Dude everyone has a gay or a dope fiend in their family. It is not about making fun of anyone. I am from the streets and have seen it all 30 times. And you don't think that homeless people like to have fun too? The point is that everyone on this board is so scared shitless of their own damn shadow (do this, don't do that, wear this, don't wear that) but I have proved time and time again in downtown Medellin and Santa Fe in Bogota that there is nothing to be scared of AND you can wear what the fuck you want. Or maybe the people out to do harm can sense the fear of a mark no matter what they have on or what they are carrying, and will try that person.
As far as using a phone in a casa, that has nothing to do with nothing. You can walk into most casas including New Life and use your phone all day long and nobody will say shit to you. In the strip clubs and certain other casas you can even take pictures in the common areas as we were doing yesterday. So as far as I am concerned that was a one off thing and had nothing to do with being a clown as you call it.
Classy in a hohouse? LOL. That is a good one.I don't really see the appeal. Also growing up in Urban America. I am aware that it's generally a bad idea to go to other "hoods" with a camera and video people. What "streets" are you from where this is acceptable and will result in a happy ending for you? LOL.
Those young guys's lives have officially been ruined, or bettered, depending how you look at it.Bettered! You just helped these young men out a lot. In my experience, women in the US tend to respond better when you're not sweating them as hard. A 5 knows that she's a 5. And if you're treating her like a 10 then she thinks you're lame and treats you as such.
Advantageous
01-18-16, 16:57
I don't see the fun.
Try again until you meet these guys (Bronx, Bogota). They might be happy to explain, with practical demonstration, that in a safari one could meet antelopes but also lions.
So your intent was to tell us how brave you are, not that you're an idiot taking unnecessary risks, or abusive to the downtrodden? I get it now.FOH with all this "ooooh but what about that crackhead's feelings shit", LOL! I swear, you two gentlemen of outstanding moral fiber should save that BS for the UNESCO forum, not a site dedicated to sex tourism. Also, the folks most scared of lions are the ones that have never truly been to the savanna. Take that as you will.
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