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Soldierb11
05-03-16, 03:19
Hi guys,
We are a group of 4 guys (late 30's) that are thinking of going out to Medellin in August. We are all from the UK (born and raised) but of Indian origin. Some of the guys are heavily into the P2P scene, but others also have a little game and looking to pick up local chicas in clubs (if that's possible).
One of the guys has a birthday whilst we are out there, so I wanted to know if anyone knows where we can throw him the biggest fuck party / orgy going (4 girls, lesbians, swapping etc etc) - Is that even possible in Medellin?
Also finally we are thinking of going for 12 days (is that too long just to stay in Medellin? We considered also doing 4-5 days in Panama City first. Anyone have any views or ideas regarding this?
Gunshot.
P.S. Any fellow mongers, wingmen that want to hang out and have a drink then also drop me a PM.Are you looking for honest advice or just want us to falsely say something like "your plan is amazing" so you feel better about the idea?
Bad news- when in August are you planning? The Feria de flores usually takes up the around the first ten days of August and Medellin is packed and much more expensive during that time so if your trip is then you need reservations prontico. As slam replied earlier and someone else as well. Who speaks Spanish in your group? Speaks it decently not just a few hola and como estas stuff. Spanish speaking will be very helpful in trying to pull together some kind of wild orgy plan. If someone does speak Spanish finding a main girl to coordinate all the other girls is the way to go. But the challenge will be where are you going to find this girl. I am also going to have to lay some honest truth on you, the guys that think they have game better speak Spanish if they think they are going to walk into a club and are going to pull freebies. Most paisas I know aren't going to be drooling over 4 Indian guys, sorry to be honest but its the truth. Exceptional game without Spanish will be needed and even then.
Now the good news, there is a lot of beautiful women in Medellin and plenty of ways to find them. Lots of casas you guys can have fun at, Spanish helps to find the places but is not essential. Some hot girls at the strip clubs like Fase2 and Spanish really isn't needed there either. Staying at the mansion would be a way to deal with no Spanish and also could really help in pulling off the party orgy idea. A lot more planning and research is going to be needed to make this trip live up to half of its dream.
Now suddenly, via FB, there are 3-4 girls at my knowledge, that are Pimping girls.
Some of the girls are professional fashion models.
The supply has increased and become more and more open, like they hardly care anymore.
Note that Colombias unemployment rate rose from 8% to 11% in one month. 50% of export are oil, not cocaine, which is 4%, even if more, the legit business can't be saved by cocaine, since consumers skip all unnecessary expenses first, with the crisis 2008 in fresh memory.
This hit Latinamerica, suffering from the China's halt of rapid growth.
Now all the real estate projects halts.
Rapid growth based on exporting raw materials, and in the case of Venezuela, Brasil and Argentina, with manipulated exchange rates, it hits even harder...So who are these girls that be pimping? I don't think they are pimp tho maybe just girls that knows a lot international people and can speak fair amount of English.
Hi guys,
We are a group of 4 guys (late 30's) that are thinking of going out to Medellin in August. We are all from the UK (born and raised) but of Indian origin. Some of the guys are heavily into the P2P scene, but others also have a little game and looking to pick up local chicas in clubs (if that's possible).
One of the guys has a birthday whilst we are out there, so I wanted to know if anyone knows where we can throw him the biggest fuck party / orgy going (4 girls, lesbians, swapping etc etc) - Is that even possible in Medellin?..First of all I am going to give you some sound advice which others have also posted to you. Picking up non working girls is going to be difficult unless you are fluent in Spanish. Second thing is most of the girls go out in groups and usually have guys with them who might be boyfriends or just friends, and it is up to you to have to distinguish the difference without getting into a confrontation. Also you being of Indian descent could be a hindrous to you.
As far as orgies go, take it from someone with lots of experience, these planned type of things very seldom work out, and very seldom are a positive experience. The positive experiences in orgies are when they are unplanned and just happen. It is all about timing.
BlueChange
05-03-16, 07:54
Now suddenly, via FB, there are 3-4 girls at my knowledge, that are Pimping girls.
Some of the girls are professional fashion models.
The supply has increased and become more and more open, like they hardly care anymore.
Note that Colombias unemployment rate rose from 8% to 11% in one month. 50% of export are oil, not cocaine, which is 4%, even if more, the legit business can't be saved by cocaine, since consumers skip all unnecessary expenses first, with the crisis 2008 in fresh memory.
This hit Latinamerica, suffering from the China's halt of rapid growth.
Now all the real estate projects halts.
Rapid growth based on exporting raw materials, and in the case of Venezuela, Brasil and Argentina, with manipulated exchange rates, it hits even harder.
Prices on pussy are falling, supply is raising. Demand is at best stable.
Models are now facing the recession times.
They sell themselves via friend-Pimps.
Excellent news for those of us that has the pocket ull of $$ to spend on prepagos!Look at you over here. It's the S&P 500 . Sex & pussy 500.
Today Pussy was at an all time low as wages continue to drop, in other news new casas opened in hope to meet demand in time for Christmas hahahah.
Great observation!
As Soldier alluded the Mansion is probably your best bet. As a group you might do better staying at Mansion #2 up the street as its quieter and the orgy girls might feel it more discreet to go there. Breakfast is served there too as part of the room cost. Your group would be welcome to hang out and party at Mansion #1's "La Cuava" bar and you can come and go to both locations no problem. The pool at Mansion #2 is much better and the place has a more private and discreet feel to it than #1. It has its fans amongst the stealth fucker types it seems and after I toured it I concluded that it would be perfect for a large group traveling together. There are several decent chicas that speak good English there that might be able to handle your discreet orgy inquiry. One of their massage therapists is a nice person and another chica I suggest also gave my group a tour of the city on our last trip, nearly fluent English. I'm confident she could help set it up. PM me for names. Good luck. Geo.
Hi guys,
We are a group of 4 guys (late 30's) that are thinking of going out to Medellin in August. We are all from the UK (born and raised) but of Indian origin. Some of the guys are heavily into the P2P scene, but others also have a little game and looking to pick up local chicas in clubs (if that's possible).
One of the guys has a birthday whilst we are out there, so I wanted to know if anyone knows where we can throw him the biggest fuck party / orgy going (4 girls, lesbians, swapping etc etc) - Is that even possible in Medellin?
Also finally we are thinking of going for 12 days (is that too long just to stay in Medellin? We considered also doing 4-5 days in Panama City first. Anyone have any views or ideas regarding this?
Gunshot.
P.S. Any fellow mongers, wingmen that want to hang out and have a drink then also drop me a PM.
El Mechanico
05-03-16, 21:06
I don't know what the average Iranian woman looks like.Watch Tyrant, the Fx Mini series.
OK so this is my 7th post I believe. So far on this board I've been called clueless & had my keyboard sequences called out (the sentences continue on in a straight line & don't automatically drop down a line at the end of the cell like every other blog site input cell in the world does! Then when someone asks a question that was addressed 5 years ago he gets told to RTFF. How TF was I supposed to know what a hard enter of whatever TF you call it is? I was advised to go back 2 years & start reading the posts which I am currently doing, hence the response to a post from July of 2014. So what I'm going to do is continue to post responses to these 2 year old posts so I can give you guys something to guff me about all in the name of chastising me about not being to MDE before & calling yourselves Medellin experts. I'm a big boy, I can take it.
El Mechanico
Thank you. I replied to your PM. Most of my posts are indeed focused on Campo since that's where I spent most of my rookie weeks mongering. Great place. However, several guys have told me that Medellin can be a nice place to find good pussy at a fair price. So after a serious amount of good fucking in the Caribbean it's now time to check out the motherland. We'll be with a group of six so that's why I asked for the complete apartment. We did Brazil (Rio) and CuraCao and we're now going for Colombia. Plan is to grace Cali first then continue to Medellin with a weekend in Manizales.
I was looking at the Mansion as some of our guys would like to use their service to jump start their trip but it seems unlikely that we'll be able to acquire six rooms at the same time. We'll see, Medellin has plenty of good options so far. And I'm sure we'll get the party started once we reach Medellin.IMO with a group of six guys, there's not much reason to stay at the Mansion. The main draw of the Mansion is that you have fellow hobbyists to hang with. This is irrelevant for you. Yes, the Mansion could help you get a running start; but if you read this website and do your own research, you can achieve that "running start" on your own.
If you really want to stay in a Gringo-oriented place, I second Geolopes suggestion of staying at el Castillo.
I keep hearing guys down for a week or less talk about non-pros. Unless you look like Enrique Iglesias, that's not likely to happen. And the chances go from low to zero if you don't speak Spanish. Now if you're here for several weeks, that's a completely different story.
Richmond72
05-04-16, 07:21
I just came back from the Mansion and from my experience it's not really the best place for large groups of guys traveling together. I've seen groups of 5 to 6 guys drop by several times on my trips. Usually they stay in the Castillo because that's where there's rooms available for that many. They rarely ever hang out by the pool or in the Cueva since they've always got group stuff planned like strip clubs or casas. And when they do drop by, there are never really enough girls that all of them find something they like. Sometimes a couple pull and the rest leave. Other times they all leave without pulling because the guys that did find girls they liked don't want to ditch the group.
What usually happens is that they put out the call that a lot of guys are staying at the Mansion so more girls come over. Lots of girls hanging out and the group of guys is nowhere to be seen. After a few hours, some of the girls get bored and leave. So it ends up being kind of a shit night for both the girls and the group of guys. I'm doing great because I'm hanging in the Cueva all night and get the pick of the larger than usual number of girls. But lots of girls go home empty handed and when the group of guys do finally show up at 11 pm, there's not much choice in girls left so they leave frustrated.
For larger groups, I think getting an apartment and getting in touch with some girls who can set stuff up for you might work better.
I will be attending the Medellin tango festival the week of June 20th and having some fun on the side (hehe). My usual haunts are Buenos Aires, Toronto, and lately Tijuana. This will be my first visit to Colombia and Medellin. Plane arrives into MDE at 0100 hrs. Is it safe to take a taxi from the airport to the downtown area at this hour? Any tango aficionados on this board that reside in Medellin?
Best.
Jay Balanty
05-04-16, 13:30
Will anyone else be staying at the Mansion June 8-13?
Advantageous
05-04-16, 19:23
I will be attending the Medellin tango festival the week of June 20th and having some fun on the side (hehe). My usual haunts are Buenos Aires, Toronto, and lately Tijuana. This will be my first visit to Colombia and Medellin. Plane arrives into MDE at 0100 hrs. Is it safe to take a taxi from the airport to the downtown area at this hour? Any tango aficionados on this board that reside in Medellin?
Best.You should be fine airport-side; don't let anyone shake you down for more than 60 k COP for the ride (before any type of tipping you may want to do), and it's not impossible to get an Uber at that time of night if you have the app downloaded. As for downtown it really depends on where you're going and how well you know it. I can't speak for being out with your luggage at that time because I generally stay in the Poblado, but you should probably be fine if you're not drawing attention to yourself.
Advantageous
05-04-16, 19:25
Watch Tyrant, the Fx Mini series.
OK so this is my 7th post I believe. So far on this board I've been called clueless & had my keyboard sequences called out (the sentences continue on in a straight line & don't automatically drop down a line at the end of the cell like every other blog site input cell in the world does! Then when someone asks a question that was addressed 5 years ago he gets told to RTFF. How TF was I supposed to know what a hard enter of whatever TF you call it is? I was advised to go back 2 years & start reading the posts which I am currently doing, hence the response to a post from July of 2014. So what I'm going to do is continue to post responses to these 2 year old posts so I can give you guys something to guff me about all in the name of chastising me about not being to MDE before & calling yourselves Medellin experts. I'm a big boy, I can take it.
El MechanicoI'm sure that'll really motivate people to help you out. You definitely won't come off as a tool either. Nope.
Just got back from MDE. I have to admit the most beautiful women I've seen anywhere in the world especially on the street. Had a great time until a member of our group died of a heart attack Saturday night. His wife thought he was on a golfing trip in the USA If you can't tell your wife or significant other that you are on a fishing or hiking trip or whatever exactly where you are going, it is best to just stay home. Anything can happen. We had to leave his body in Colombia.
Welcome to the forumn😊.
Watch Tyrant, the Fx Mini series.
OK so this is my 7th post I believe. So far on this board I've been called clueless & had my keyboard sequences called out (the sentences continue on in a straight line & don't automatically drop down a line at the end of the cell like every other blog site input cell in the world does! Then when someone asks a question that was addressed 5 years ago he gets told to RTFF. How TF was I supposed to know what a hard enter of whatever TF you call it is? I was advised to go back 2 years & start reading the posts which I am currently doing, hence the response to a post from July of 2014. So what I'm going to do is continue to post responses to these 2 year old posts so I can give you guys something to guff me about all in the name of chastising me about not being to MDE before & calling yourselves Medellin experts. I'm a big boy, I can take it.
El Mechanico
Charm City Dave
05-04-16, 20:34
Going to be in Medellin from mid July through September. Going to take a bunch of side trips while in country but wondering about getting to Mach Picchu. Thinking of going early August while the flower festival is on or early September when the site will be less crowded. Seems airfare (such as I can see it on Kayak) are about 300 to 400 round trip, will I do better booking when I get to MDE? Any other advise appreciated.
If anyone is going to be in town then and interested in planning the trip with me let me know.
SlamCity7777
05-04-16, 21:01
Going to be in Medellin from mid July through September. Going to take a bunch of side trips while in country but wondering about getting to Mach Picchu. Thinking of going early August while the flower festival is on or early September when the site will be less crowded. Seems airfare (such as I can see it on Kayak) are about 300 to 400 round trip, will I do better booking when I get to MDE? Any other advise appreciated.
If anyone is going to be in town then and interested in planning the trip with me let me know.You might get more luck on the Peru board? Hmmmmm Oh yeah I'd look up the fares under the Colombian or Peru or Spanish portal vs USA. I lived in Lima / Cuszco for 3 months during and after college and the fare will be 30+% cheaper.
As for time to go it depends. Is it South America vacation week or holiday? Talking the bus & train there or the Inca Trail? It will be COLD at night like east coast cold Fall night cold. Be mindful of that.
There is a working girl house behind a shrimp / ceviche stand last time I went and a local brothel sort of like Amsterdam where the girls stand in door ways and the guys rush to see the girl when the door opens. My buddy is a Gui de MP and he took me there.
I was a broke ass back packer so I didn't do too much mongering and was up in the Club with local chicas. Who if you can dance and buy drinks are 100% pull able. Note they are not as pretty as paisas.
Soldierb11
05-04-16, 22:43
Going to be in Medellin from mid July through September. Going to take a bunch of side trips while in country but wondering about getting to Mach Picchu. Thinking of going early August while the flower festival is on or early September when the site will be less crowded. Seems airfare (such as I can see it on Kayak) are about 300 to 400 round trip, will I do better booking when I get to MDE? Any other advise appreciated.
If anyone is going to be in town then and interested in planning the trip with me let me know.I'm not sure when Machu has a slower time. I've been there 3 times and it seems to get busier each time. Personally I would just book everything from here and have something less to worry about once I started traveling. My advice for Machu would be to go see it Day 1 after you get off the train or hike it and then definitely overnight in Aguacalientes and go back and see it again at dawn. One trip I was on the weather was very socked in on day 2, photos were absolute crap and the day trippers going back on the train that afternoon were pretty upset. No big deal for me since I had arrived at lunch the day before and spent the previous afternoon there getting good shoots. Also allot some days for Cusco its a pretty cool city.
Member #4398
05-05-16, 03:09
Just got back from MDE. I have to admit the most beautiful women I've seen anywhere in the world especially on the street. Had a great time until a member of our group died of a heart attack Saturday night. His wife thought he was on a golfing trip in the USA If you can't tell your wife or significant other that you are on a fishing or hiking trip or whatever exactly where you are going, it is best to just stay home. Anything can happen. We had to leave his body in Colombia.WTF! That is terrible. I am curious what happened to the guy in your group. How did he get a heart attack? What is with a chica and too much Viagra or Cialis? Was he very old or extremely obese? You guys had to leave his body in Colombia. Is the wife in the USA coming to Colombia to get the body and who is telling her what he was doing in Colombia? You are right is not good to lie to your significant others about where you are when you traveling because anything can happen. Please share more about what happened to the poor guy even thought is not Puta related or who knows.
Cerebro
MikeysHouse
05-05-16, 07:57
Just got back from MDE. I have to admit the most beautiful women I've seen anywhere in the world especially on the street. Had a great time until a member of our group died of a heart attack Saturday night. His wife thought he was on a golfing trip in the USA If you can't tell your wife or significant other that you are on a fishing or hiking trip or whatever exactly where you are going, it is best to just stay home. Anything can happen. We had to leave his body in Colombia.That's awful! For everyone including his wife and the guy who has to break the news to her. Was he indulging excessively on anything or was it straight out of the blue with no warning signs?
Tough situation man and good advice about at least telling the truth about the country you will be in.
El Mechanico
05-05-16, 13:57
Welcome to the forumn.Thank you YouCan! I only have 306 pages to catch up on until I'm current! Lots of good intel from 2 years ago but I don't know how relevant it will be when I get there in June.
El Mechanico
El Mechanico
05-05-16, 13:59
I'm sure that'll really motivate people to help you out. You definitely won't come off as a tool either. Nope.Read the replies to some of my posts and you'll see what I'm referring to!
El Mechanico
Colombia Jake
05-05-16, 14:33
Just got back from MDE. I have to admit the most beautiful women I've seen anywhere in the world especially on the street. Had a great time until a member of our group died of a heart attack Saturday night. His wife thought he was on a golfing trip in the USA If you can't tell your wife or significant other that you are on a fishing or hiking trip or whatever exactly where you are going, it is best to just stay home. Anything can happen. We had to leave his body in Colombia.Sorry to read about your friend. The article mentioned two girls, and my thoughts went right to the girls possible poisoned him, with a drug called Scopolamina which can easily be delivered by dropping it in liquor, which I read was around the room along with vomit. I figured the girls may have given him too much and his body tried to eliminate it. Any take on this?
Colombia Jake
James Dandy
05-05-16, 15:21
WTF! That is terrible. I am curious what happened to the guy in your group. How did he get a heart attack? What is with a chica and too much Viagra or Cialis? Was he very old or extremely obese? You guys had to leave his body in Colombia. Is the wife in the USA coming to Colombia to get the body and who is telling her what he was doing in Colombia? You are right is not good to lie to your significant others about where you are when you traveling because anything can happen. Please share more about what happened to the poor guy even thought is not Puta related or who knows.
CerebroHow old was he and where were you guys staying, if you don't mind sharing? Just curious if it was another Mansion incident?
Mr Enternational
05-05-16, 18:43
You might get more luck on the Peru board? Hmmmmm Oh yeah I'd look up the fares under the Colombian or Peru or Spanish portal vs USA. I lived in Lima / Cuszco for 3 months during and after college and the fare will be 30+% cheaper.Although you can get fares cheaper in Colombia under the Colombia portal, LAN Peru has prices listed and says that the cheaper prices are only for Peruvians. If you show up having purchased that fare and do not have Peruvian ID then you will be made to pay the difference.
Same thing happened to me going to MP. The night before in Aguas Calientes I bought my ticket at a student discount at the civic center using my old grad school ID. The next morning when I got up to the gate at MP all of the foreign students who had done that were made to go to the ticket booth and pay the balance of a full ticket. Evidently you had to be connected to a Peruvian school to get the student discount.
Also, to contradict Soldier, I arrived in Aguas Calientes after dark. The next morning at 5 I was at the ticket booth to get my ticket for the 6 am bus to MP. I think MP opens at 8. It was very foggy and made for shitty pictures. Later on in the morning the fog lifted and we were able to get our shots. In the early afternoon we went back to our hotel and checked out and were on the 3 pm train back to Ollantaytambo. So we were not in the area even 24 hours and I do not think we missed anything. Went to a club the first night even.
For me it does not take all day to sightsee. I do all my research beforehand so I know what I am looking at when I get there. I arrive and check everything out and take my pictures and get the hell out of there.
How old was he and where were you guys staying, if you don't mind sharing? Just curious if it was another Mansion incident?I don't know him but I have read a news report about a 57 year old guy who died in the streets of heart attack. There was also a report about a 45 yo guy who found dead naked in a hotel. Both were "Gringos".
I don't know if this is the right place or not to write about this. I was reading a news report lately, there is this phenomenon about gringos / local men going to Universities even a high school in Medellin and handing out flyers to girls who looks good offering money for sex or friendship for fresh of plane the gringos in Medellin, the girls are mad and it looks its getting out of hand.
Charm City Dave
05-05-16, 21:43
For me it does not take all day to sightsee. I do all my research beforehand so I know what I am looking at when I get there. I arrive and check everything out and take my pictures and get the hell out of there.Thanks everyone for the advise! I'm thinking if I can't get significant discounts in country I should plan my itinerary before I leave the states. Then I can just relax.
Different strokes for different folks, when I get to a bucket list location (especially way off the beaten track) I stay as long as I can as mostly likely I will never be there again. I've take my pictures, but want to soak it in for as long as possible. I've been dragged by the security guards off the Great Wall, Meiji Shrine, the Louvre. The Tower of London, the Colosseum, the Acropolis and The Forbidden City. In the case of the Forbidden City I was one of the last out the door. After jostling the crowds for the day I had the place to myself in the setting sun and it was an incredible experience. Of course I was just a short subway ride back to my hotel so didn't have to worry about transport back.
I don't know if this is the right place or not to write about this. I was reading a news report lately, there is this phenomenon about gringos / local men going to Universities even a high school in Medellin and handing out flyers to girls who looks good offering money for sex or friendship for fresh of plane the gringos in Medellin, the girls are mad and it looks its getting out of hand.Yes this is something see Jack Sparrow would do and has probably done, so I am sure you what you heard is probably correct.
Member #4398
05-06-16, 01:54
I don't know him but I have read a news report about a 57 year old guy who died in the streets of heart attack. There was also a report about a 45 yo guy who found dead naked in a hotel. Both were "Gringos".Can you provide the links of those news reports? Lately, people are posting a lot of shit or incomplete information. Then another guy posted another incomplete report about some gringo phenomenon or gringos going to schools to get girls.
Eszpresszo
05-06-16, 03:23
Okay guys, I've put up my share of trip reports and details on a couple different Colombia threads. I've shared my recent experiences, hopefully so others can benefit. That said, I think I am within my rights to call BULLSHIT on some things going on here.
First off, the amount of pointless banter here is getting to be a joke. Someone opined on one of the other threads that the Medellin Reports was useless as a result of it. He might have had a point. Go to the Cartegena thread and you will see a lot more current trip reports and more details. Right now, this thread is awash with all kinds of rumors about bad stuff, that cannot be verified. Hey, a forum cannot be a rumor mill and still be a good place for solid information! And all these guys posting about how great MDE is. Well, if it is so great, why can't you post a detailed report about your experiences? We need names, places, prices, times, and practical info. If it can happen on the Cartegena thread, why can't it happen here?
Another thing that is out of hand, and not necessarily on this thread, is posters jumping up on newcummers with this "RTFF" bullshit. Its gotten to the point where I think "RTFF" means "I Don't Know The Answer To Your Fucking Question, So Why Don't You Read The Fucking Forum And Maybe You Will Find An Actual Monger Who Does. " Really, what good is a forum if you can't ask a question without someone jumping out like some troll hiding under the bridge, and telling them to "RTFF". Look, if you can get all your answers by reading all the old posts on this forum, then there is no point in anyone posting anything again, right?
A more resourceful, and friendlier, approach is to direct the newcomer how to use the search feature and possibly what keyword to look for or whose posts to look for. I've seen this done on other threads, so it can be done here. Example: Want to find excellent details about a specific town in the Dominican Republic? Just type in the word "Camaro" and the name of the city in the search field. Voila! Its that's simple. In short, HELP A BROTHER OUT. If you are such an experienced monger, that you have chocked up up several hundreds, even thousands of posts, then you should be able to offer a detailed and expert opinion. Directing someone to "RTFF" does not qualify as expertise or experience. It only calls your usefulness into question.
And as for the usefulness of dated information. Let's get real. Two year old info is stale, like you would expect in an area such as this particular vice. Brothels open, close, change names, move, etc. Girls come and go, prices go up, and service levels fluctuate. After all, when has anything about mongering ever been written in stone? You know. Member #4394 has done a good job of putting together a monger map, but he has to keep updating it. No, it doesn't update itself. Somebody has to go to all those places and verify they are still there, what is notably different and how much the prices have gone up. That somebody is you!
You know, I read a study about the evolution of internet forums, and they go through a predictable sequence of stages in regards to their participation. Towards their decline, it gets to the point where the older members gets impatient with new members and their newbie questions. That is not where you want a forum to go, because that is towards the end. Again, help a brother out!
BTW, anybody who has any questions regarding my experiences, can feel free to PM me. I might not have the answers, but I won't bite your head off for asking (unless you are just being stupid).
MedellinGringo
05-06-16, 04:34
Can you provide the links of those news reports? Lately, people are posting a lot of shit or incomplete information. Then another guy posted another incomplete report about some gringo phenomenon or gringos going to schools to get girls.http://www.minuto30.com/fotos-ciudadano-estadounidense-murio-en-la-via-publica-en-el-poblado/467818/
http://www.minuto30.com/ya-son-dos-los-extranjeros-muertos-en-el-poblado-en-las-ultimas-horas/468091/
One guy was suspected of dying from a heart attack in the street but turns out he had an allergic reaction to some sea food.
The other guy was just found dead in his hotel room with a bottle of liqour and some pills so they suspect an overdose.
Guys,
Ladyexpresszo is having some emotional and mental problems so please give her a break when you see her. I am asking all of you who come in contact with her to be compassionate as I would hate for something bad to happen to her, or see her locked up in a mental facility even though it is very evident she needs serious help.
Thank you!
Can you provide the links of those news reports? Lately, people are posting a lot of shit or incomplete information. Then another guy posted another incomplete report about some gringo phenomenon or gringos going to schools to get girls.Hey,
I posted both I wasn't sure if its OK posting links on the site but here are them. I got English and Spanish links and someone already posted the links about the 2 guys who died.
http://www.elheraldo.co/nacional/investigan-red-que-invita-las-universitarias-prostituirse-en-medellin-257482
http://colombiareports.com/prostitution-ring-recruiting-medellins-universities/
http://www.elespectador.com/noticias/nacional/volantes-invitan-universitarias-de-medellin-prostitucio-articulo-629334
http://caracol.com.co/emisora/2016/04/27/medellin/1461759178_583922.html
Okay guys, I've put up my share of trip reports and details on a couple different Colombia threads. I've shared my recent experiences, hopefully so others can benefit. That said, I think I am within my rights to call BULLSHIT on some things going on here.
I'm going to offer a defense of some of the issues you mentioned. You made some good points, but. (there is always a "but".
Many of the people who say "RTFF" have seen a question asked, usually by someone with 5 or less posts, which was just answered a few days before. Then there are the first post, "I have mongered everywhere and I'm planning on coming to _ to do _something no experienced monger would ever do). Can someone give me the name and phone number of _girl, hotel, restaurant, sheep rental, whatever)?
After seeing the same "just give me the answers" posts week after week, people get tired of repeating the same answers.
There's a real benefit to reading those old posts, even if the information is outdated. You get to know the players. You mentioned Camaro in the DR. How did you learn about his excellent reports? You RTFF. You learn who has the best information. You also, and this is critical for first-time visitors, learn the ropes, learn how to walk the walk and talk the talk. You never know what you will learn, until you RTFF.
As for the pointless banter, it keeps the forum alive. There are threads that go weeks and even months with no reports. If I'm looking for info and I see the last post was in September, I'm not even going to bother. I'll go looking for another source. That pointless banter tells me I've found an active community, where I can get some answers.
Trip reports will come and go, but if that's all that's on the board, it's going to get old pretty fast.
Member #4398
05-06-16, 10:58
I don't know if this is the right place or not to write about this. I was reading a news report lately, there is this phenomenon about gringos / local men going to Universities even a high school in Medellin and handing out flyers to girls who looks good offering money for sex or friendship for fresh of plane the gringos in Medellin, the girls are mad and it looks its getting out of hand.Can you you post the link of that news report?
Cerebro
Member #4398
05-06-16, 11:14
http://www.minuto30.com/fotos-ciudadano-estadounidense-murio-en-la-via-publica-en-el-poblado/467818/
http://www.minuto30.com/ya-son-dos-los-extranjeros-muertos-en-el-poblado-en-las-ultimas-horas/468091/
One guy was suspected of dying from a heart attack in the street but turns out he had an allergic reaction to some sea food
The other guy was just found dead in his hotel room with a bottle of liqour and some pills so they suspect an overdose.Thanks for your response. Now things are making more sense. The report on the guy with the heart attack also says that they found liquor in his room and he was accompanied by two women.
It seems like the two guys were partying too hard and they were no dudes, one in his forties and another in the 50's. To help prevent this type of thing is why I started drinking water instead of hard liquor, no drugs and just one puta at a time.
Stay safe and have fun.
Cerebro
James Dandy
05-06-16, 11:20
http://www.minuto30.com/fotos-ciudadano-estadounidense-murio-en-la-via-publica-en-el-poblado/467818/
http://www.minuto30.com/ya-son-dos-los-extranjeros-muertos-en-el-poblado-en-las-ultimas-horas/468091/
One guy was suspected of dying from a heart attack in the street but turns out he had an allergic reaction to some sea food.
The other guy was just found dead in his hotel room with a bottle of liqour and some pills so they suspect an overdose.I believe we're talking about the same guy, and I read yesterday that he was out in Poblado at 3:20 am on the site Minuto30, but now they seem to have updated and changed the article. If it was correct, an out of shape older guy with two girls out at that time of night tells me it wasn't seafood that killed him, his body couldn't take the party any longer. Who comes to Medellin for seafood anyway, and one would think if he was allergic to seafood he would know ahead of time.
I also saw on another site the authorities are aware of and vowing to go after lodgings set up for sex tourism. I assume this means places like Jake's, especially since they like to unjustifiably blame gringos for everything. All said, it was a crazy weekend for gringos with four found dead over the couple days!
Member #4398
05-06-16, 15:34
Thanks for posting the links. That does not appear to be a phenomenon. That seems to be an idiot Gringo who thought he had a great idea of going to universities to recruit some girls and he only going to get his ass kicked by Colombians and give us all a bad reputation. Discretion about what we do or want to do and respect for their women (putas an nonputas) and culture is essential to survive in Colombia and other counties alike. If someone does not believe me, just ask CubaDave who continues to detained in Costa Rica accused of promoting sex tourism. I assumed that if he was stupid enough to make the flyer, he was probably stupid enough to put his real name and phone contact on the flyer so they will find him easy. That stupid gringo better start running now cause if they find him, he will be arrested and be put in the front page of those newspapers to make an example of him and he will get the blame for turning Medellin into the big beautiful brothel it is.
Cerebro
Hey,
I posted both I wasn't sure if its OK posting links on the site but here are them. I got English and Spanish links and someone already posted the links about the 2 guys who died.
http://www.elheraldo.co/nacional/investigan-red-que-invita-las-universitarias-prostituirse-en-medellin-257482
http://colombiareports.com/prostitution-ring-recruiting-medellins-universities/
http://www.elespectador.com/noticias/nacional/volantes-invitan-universitarias-de-medellin-prostitucio-articulo-629334
http://caracol.com.co/emisora/2016/04/27/medellin/1461759178_583922.html
Sargent 50
05-06-16, 17:40
Not much time to go through all the pages any quick help appreciated, I know Fase II, Mansion what would a vet recommend to do on just one over night lay over.
Can you you post the link of that news report?
CerebroHey,
Check the 2nd post under your post.
Thanks for your response. Now things are making more sense. The report on the guy with the heart attack also says that they found liquor in his room and he was accompanied by two women.
It seems like the two guys were partying too hard and they were no dudes, one in his forties and another in the 50's. To help prevent this type of thing is why I started drinking water instead of hard liquor, no drugs and just one puta at a time.
Stay safe and have fun.
CerebroThe more logical explanation is they were probably using drugs or were drugged and had a reaction to that. Either way, seafood allergy sounds like horseshit to me and we probably won't know the truth until the bodies are autopsied in the USA. The Colombian gov could give a shit about some gringos dying unless they are famous and will draw attention.
MikeysHouse
05-06-16, 23:24
I am within my rights to call BULLSHIT on some things going on here.
First off, the amount of pointless banter here is getting to be a joke. Someone opined on one of the other threads that the Medellin Reports was useless as a result of it. He might have had a point. Go to the Cartegena thread and you will see a lot more current trip reports and more details. Right now, this thread is awash with all kinds of rumors about bad stuff, that cannot be verified. Hey, a forum cannot be a rumor mill and still be a good place for solid information! And all these guys posting about how great MDE is. Well, if it is so great, why can't you post a detailed report about your experiences? We need names, places, prices, times, and practical info. If it can happen on the Cartegena thread, why can't it happen here?
Another thing that is out of hand, and not necessarily on this thread, is posters jumping up on newcummers with this "RTFF" bullshit. Its gotten to the point where I think "RTFF" means "I Don't Know The Answer To Your Fucking Question, So Why Don't You Read The Fucking Forum And Maybe You Will Find An Actual Monger Who Does. " Really, what good is a forum if you can't ask a question without someone jumping out like some troll hiding under the bridge, and telling them to "RTFF". Look, if you can get all your answers by reading all the old posts on this forum, then there is no point in anyone posting anything again, right?
A more resourceful, and friendlier, approach is to direct the newcomer how to use the search feature and possibly what keyword to look for or whose posts to look for. I've seen this done .You are absolutely right and make some great points. First- I believe more trip reports would be posted here (with the kind of information that actually helpful) but those who actually can provide any valuable reporting figure "Why bother" posting? Because what happens 90% of the time when any newcomer or anyone who is not well known who tries to report, ask a question or comment they are mocked, one upped, judged, criticized, ridiculed or told RTFF. The spirit of ISG has been totally lost on this forum. Your post got me thinking- in a few weeks I will spend 6 days in CTG and 6 days in MDE. I just tried for the 1st time (Tinder and Colombia Cupid) and can't believe how hot some of these girls I've been skyping with are. I have every reason to believe that.
This next trip will be absolutely epic and if not I will find a way to make it epic (Read my last CTG trip report for a sample) - But why would I share my MDE trip portion here? Where the people on this board have ruined it for everybody. I keep coming back to this forum hoping it has changed but it never does.
Soldierb11
05-06-16, 23:31
Not much time to go through all the pages any quick help appreciated, I know Fase II, Mansion what would a vet recommend to do on just one over night lay over.If the Mansion or Castillo has a room you are set. If not I would stay around Parque Lleras. Grab some dinner around the Parque there are street walkers there now if you look for them to me that would be Plan be. Plan A would be to hit Fase2 if I only had one night and was short on time and contacts.
SlamCity7777
05-07-16, 01:02
You are absolutely right and make some great points. First- I believe more trip reports would be posted here (with the kind of information that actually helpful) but those who actually can provide any valuable reporting figure "Why bother" posting? Because what happens 90% of the time when any newcomer or anyone who is not well known who tries to report, ask a question or comment they are mocked, one upped, judged, criticized, ridiculed or told RTFF. The spirit of ISG has been totally lost on this forum. Your post got me thinking- in a few weeks I will spend 6 days in CTG and 6 days in MDE. I just tried for the 1st time (Tinder and Colombia Cupid) and can't believe how hot some of these girls I've been skyping with are. I have every reason to believe that.
This next trip will be absolutely epic and if not I will find a way to make it epic (Read my last CTG trip report for a sample) - But why would I share my MDE trip portion here? Where the people on this board have ruined it for everybody. I keep coming back to this forum hoping it has changed but it never does.Disclaimer: I'm not starting a flame battle or flexing on this dude I quoted or the OG poster who are 100% wrong!
Well. 90% ish. Some valid points but there is method to the madness and why OG guys get mad or flame the new guys. To start:
I will give you that there is a TON of bickering and shit going on. It has been going on as long as I have been a member since 07 ish. Why? Because the new guys come on the board, don't pay Jackson the $20 and want it all handed to them! It is the same 10 questions over and over and over!
1 (Where should I stay.
2 (ATM / Money Change?
3 (Can I pull a normal girl non pro even though I speak zero espanol and have no game.
4 (How much should I pay for a domicilio date.
5 (I want _ freaky deary shit. Where can I find it.
6 (Where should I go for day time / night time pussy.
7 (Party favors or Viagra / ED pills.
8 (Can I get around with limited to no Spanish.
9 (Whats the deal at the mansion.
10 (OK I"m running out of gas here but you get the idea!! .
LOL!
New KIDS in class. Use the search box!! Or the Advanced search options! There are SPECIFIC topic threads for most of these questions! How about the new kids do this and then ask a specific question? Like. I see city bank has the best rates. Where are the ATMs? I can live with that because he tried to do the legwork and now he has a specific question that needs an answer. I'm more inclined to help somebody who is trying vs not.
Then when dude does go on the trip do they report back? Do they give back? That is the entire point of a community yes?
And Finally the Snitches. Dudes love to rat out other dudes on EVERY message board because they have no clue, hope, or heart and that is how they think they can earn points and favor form girls. Everything on ISG is Google searchable and open to the public.
I got stuck before, on every one of these points. Told dude the play book, never heard back, he never posted. Thanks bro! Got into a flame battle with some ProSaver jerk who claimed he had "Insider info" form CTR! Hahah Loser, and how many time does the board have to answer the non pro or the semi pro or the where can I find 10's x hottest girls in mede questions?
To be fair that's how it is. I used to be this guys. Hey bro maybe post this in the Apt / Money / Guide / correct topic? That way info will stay organized and the next guy will be able to find the info. You know what happened? I got called a Message Board Nazi or who made you the ISG Cops?
All this drama and one way behavior makes dudes not want to help. Those who act right and are real about it will find and get the answered and help they want and deserve.
The losers and stingy dudes who don't? Keep crying and just fucking use the search box!
http://www.minuto30.com/fotos-ciudadano-estadounidense-murio-en-la-via-publica-en-el-poblado/467818/
http://www.minuto30.com/ya-son-dos-los-extranjeros-muertos-en-el-poblado-en-las-ultimas-horas/468091/
One guy was suspected of dying from a heart attack in the street but turns out he had an allergic reaction to some sea food.
The other guy was just found dead in his hotel room with a bottle of liqour and some pills so they suspect an overdose.Sorry to report that the second report of the 45 dead gringo is the ISG forum member Casa Medellin. He owned the penthouse apt. For rent in Cartagena and a boutique hotel in Medellin, Casa Medellin. I'm sure some people here knew him.
AirCam2324
05-07-16, 05:45
How can I make a reservation at Mansions? Do they have a website?
Sorry to read about your friend. The article mentioned two girls, and my thoughts went right to the girls possible poisoned him, with a drug called Scopolamina which can easily be delivered by dropping it in liquor, which I read was around the room along with vomit. I figured the girls may have given him too much and his body tried to eliminate it. Any take on this?
Colombia JakeDon't believe everything you read in the news. There was one bottle of liquor in the apartment which had been purchased a couple of days before, and which was almost empty at the.
Time of the incident. There were maybe three bottles of beer. Our friend was complaining of acid reflux on the day of arrival and rubbed the left side of his chest several times. He was.
Taking Tums to relieve his discomfort. This man weighed well over 300 lbs and was staying in a fourth floor apartment with no elevator. I do not think there is one flat area in Poblado. You.
Are either walking uphill or down. The airport elevation is 7000 feet. You descend to 4000 feet at Medellin.
He and his roommate were together the whole time they were there. Although they were seen with two girls earlier he was not alone with two girls. He was perfectly fine when I saw him at 530 pm.
He died around 730 or 8. He was alone in the apartment with his buddy when he started having difficulties. They were not going to hang out with us Saturday night because they had to leave for.
The airport at 4 am. Of course we were concerned about his body and were told that it would have to be handled by the US and Colombian embassies. There is a criminal investigation being conducted.
But all indications point to a sudden heart attack. There were absolutely no drugs involved. He did not die in the street. He died in the apartment. Why they laid him in the street I don't know.
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You are absolutely right and make some great points. First- I believe more trip reports would be posted here (with the kind of information that actually helpful) but those who actually can provide any valuable reporting figure "Why bother" posting? Because what happens 90% of the time when any newcomer or anyone who is not well known who tries to report, ask a question or comment they are mocked, one upped, judged, criticized, ridiculed or told RTFF. The spirit of ISG has been totally lost on this forum. Your post got me thinking- in a few weeks I will spend 6 days in CTG and 6 days in MDE. I just tried for the 1st time (Tinder and Colombia Cupid) and can't believe how hot some of these girls I've been skyping with are. I have every reason to believe that.
This next trip will be absolutely epic and if not I will find a way to make it epic (Read my last CTG trip report for a sample) - But why would I share my MDE trip portion here? Where the people on this board have ruined it for everybody. I keep coming back to this forum hoping it has changed but it never does.I agree with you. Too many many self absorbed pricks found out about Medellin then took over the board.
Have any of you used the website Seeking Arrangements in MDE or anywhere else in SA? Is it worth a try?
Thanks.
Manizales911
05-07-16, 14:47
Have any of you used the website Seeking Arrangements in MDE or anywhere else in SA? Is it worth a try?
Thanks.I have, used it in Manizales a couple times and the USA Quite often. To be clear I am not a sugar daddy and never will be, the site comes on as that kind of place but is loaded with h00 kers and girls that will go on a one time date.
Manizales911
05-07-16, 14:55
Not much time to go through all the pages any quick help appreciated, I know Fase II, Mansion what would a vet recommend to do on just one over night lay over.Cross off the Mansion, they do not allow outside guests and require a minimum two night stay.
I have, used it in Manizales a couple times and the USA Quite often. To be clear I am not a sugar daddy and never will be, the site comes on as that kind of place but is loaded with h00 kers and girls that will go on a one time date.Would you say there are more options in the USA section or equal amount of opportunities for other countries? Did you pay a fee to join and browse?
Thanks.
Sorry about the hard stops in my previous post was done on my tab. Me and a friend hooked up with chicas we met on CC they didn't know each other. My girl was absolutely beautiful, better than her pictures. His girl brought a hot friend for our other roomie. The second night my girl bought a hot young thing for our other roomie so he got two nice string along on our first two nights. These chicas were not prepagos but did end up asking for pesos to buy things. Hahaha. Overall we got bargain basement deals. Fase Dos is an absolute must do for anyone's first visit. Absolutely beautiful women for 180 k.
I even had a brief conversation with a beautiful older woman on the street while eating at a sidewalk cafe. I thought she was a prepago because she was just standing around. She just happened to be waiting for a ride. She rolled down her window and waved at me as she was riding away. Man that made me feel like I still got juice.
Do the Turibus and Pablo tour which you can catch at Park Pablado. We saw an absolute 12 at the Premier Plaza mall. Overlook the city from Club Envy on top of Hotel Charlee, it's awesome. Mondongo soup is the absolute best as is the whole fried tilapia. Water went out in Pablado on my last day so I moved to the Ibh Hotel. That place is lux for about 80 bucks. They did ID the chica that was with me but no fee. Believe me do not do centro at night alone. I did not like the vibe at La Barra. Might be a good stop if you like plastic and grunge.
Due to the unfortunate incident mentioned in my previous post I doubt that I will go back to Medellin, one of my best trips ever. Next stop Cartagena.
SlamCity7777
05-07-16, 21:13
Don't believe everything you read in the news. There was one bottle of liquor in the apartment which had been purchased a couple of days before, and which was almost empty at the time of the incident. There were maybe three bottles of beer. Our friend was complaining of acid reflux on the day of arrival and rubbed the left side of his chest several times. He was taking Tums to relieve his discomfort. This man weighed well over 300 lbs and was staying in a fourth floor apartment with no elevator. I do not think there is one flat area in Poblado. You are either walking uphill or down. The airport elevation is 7000 feet. You descend to 4000 feet at Medellin.
He and his roommate were together the whole time they were there. Although they were seen with two girls earlier he was not alone with two girls. He was perfectly fine when I saw him at 530 pm.
He died around 730 or 8. He was alone in the apartment with his buddy when he started having difficulties. They were not going to hang out with us Saturday night because they had to leave for the airport at 4 am. Of course we were concerned about his body and were told that it would have to be handled by the US and Colombian embassies. There is a criminal investigation being conducted but all indications point to a sudden heart attack. There were absolutely no drugs involved. He did not die in the street. He died in the apartment. Why they laid him in the street I don't know.I am sorry for your loss. I don't think people are trying to put poison on dude' name. Just speculation and shitty reporting by Colombian Media. And the money on favorite would be either chica event gone wrong or drugs.
RIP to your friend all my best to his family and loved ones.
A shame.
We now return you to your scheduled program. All ready in progress.
I arrived late Tuesday night. Didn't do much because of rain. This is my second foray into Colombia, First was 3 yrs ago to Cartagena. I hooked up with a friend who is familiar with the lay of the land here.
Hit Centro Wednesday. Didn't see much talent in Parque Bolivar. First stop was New Life. Unfortunately we got there around 12:30 p and it was crowded, with more mongers arriving. The presentation had a few choice ladies. But most were thick. Big fat asses actually, with cellulite. :eek: 3 years ago, in Cartagena, I did not see girls this big. There were none to my liking so we left.
My friend suggested Affie which was nearby. They were also busy, so we only saw about 5 ladies. 2 had the big fat asses.
Club de Amigas Sexy was the next stop. The lineup here was better. My friend and I liked the same petite sexy blonde. He went with her and I went with a sexy big ass brunette without cellulite. I chose the 1 hour option for 50 K. Cons: no hot water, small thin towel. CBJ. CBJ, really?? It's the norm here she said. (I don't recall that in Cartagena 3 years ago.).
Normally a CBJ is a deal breaker for me. But I was already in the room with a hot Paisa, so on with the show. Too bad about the CBJ, as she was a BJ speacialist, doing DT and really taking her time. I went over the hour with her, and I had a good time. Total cost was 110 k for 90 min.
I plan on visiting Medellin next week and plan to stay for two weeks.
I am currently on CC trying to plan dates with some MILF's in the 25-35 years category (my preference). I have had some success in lining up at least dozen or so women (I am 34 yo and reasonably handsome), two of which have agreed to be my novia for the two weeks and beyond.
Anyway, I often ask for their Whatsapp number and get their phone number which I then input into Facebook to gauge how they look. 50% of the time I see them with a male, who appears to be their significant other. I never tell them about my facebook due diligence, but the women claim to be 'separated'. Why would they do this? Money working as semi-pro's? Getting some action on the side?
Any advice in this arena would be invaluable, since I am a bit of a noob. Only started mongering two years ago when I came across some money.
Charm City Dave
05-07-16, 23:25
Would you say there are more options in the USA section or equal amount of opportunities for other countries? Did you pay a fee to join and browse?
Thanks.I've joined several times and both times ended up in an LTR with a younger girl here in American. Free to join and browse but if you want to actually contact anyone you got to pay. About $70 a month I think. I never even browsed the girls from MDE as the young pussy is so easy to get there and would think you would need Spanish skills in excess of mine. In any case in the US several kinds of girls. 9's and 10's looking for real sugar daddies to put them on allowances (think $5 k a month). Some obvious pros looking for one night hook ups, usually at a higher price than the going rate. But if you are patient there are lots of 6 - 8's that can be found for LTR without the allowance, just some nice presents, perhaps pay for a salon treatment every now and then.
Manizales911
05-07-16, 23:46
Would you say there are more options in the USA section or equal amount of opportunities for other countries? Did you pay a fee to join and browse?
Thanks.I am a paid member. USA has the most but cities like Medellin have quite a few because there are quite a few h00 kers in Medellin. You don't have to be a paid member to browse the "inventory" Artisttyp. One thing you can do is join for a month and contact a shit ton of girls and then at the end of the month cancel the subscription. Make sure you get as many Whatsapp numbers, phone numbers or Facebook contact info as possible before you cancel because once you cancel you won't be able to contact them via the site. I've been building my FB contacts to the point that I rarely use Seeking Arrangement outside of the USA anymore to be honest with you, in my opinion FB is the way to go in any country.
That apartment building is called the "Edificio Gauss". It is located the the corner of Carrara 38 and Calle 11 be. A few weeks ago, I was shown an apartment in that building. I found it on AirBnB and I looked at it as a possible place to stay on a future trip. I did not get the impression that many gringos rent there.
Look it up on Google maps. Use the street view and you can see what the front looks like. Then compare it to the pics in the news report: http://www.minuto30.com/fotos-en-avanzado-estado-de-descomposicion-fue-encontrado-el-cadaver-de-un-ciudadano-estadounidense-en-hotel-de-el-poblado/418751/.Gauss is next to gringo tower. San Pedro de Alcatraz. It was the first building I ever rented in when I first came to Medellin in 2009. It was Also where that Swiss tourist commited suicide. That kind of curved the short term renting there for a bit.
WTF! That is terrible. I am curious what happened to the guy in your group. How did he get a heart attack? What is with a chica and too much Viagra or Cialis? Was he very old or extremely obese? You guys had to leave his body in Colombia. Is the wife in the USA coming to Colombia to get the body and who is telling her what he was doing in Colombia? You are right is not good to lie to your significant others about where you are when you traveling because anything can happen. Please share more about what happened to the poor guy even thought is not Puta related or who knows.
CerebroTicatoj was Mr. Be on both blood medication and was taking viagra. I'm.
Seeing a report from locals here that it couldn't have been the case.
Please if your on heart medicine stay off viagra. Can lead to stroke or heart attack.
The media has been brutal after you left. Bunch of liars. Be well sorry you went through it.
Sucked for all of us.
Member #4398
05-08-16, 00:58
TicaToj,
Thanks for completing the unfortunate story and sharing. That cleared or the false speculation by media or anyone here guessing. Hope you recover from the lost of your friend and come back to Medellin. That lady that rode away in the car and so many others will be waiting for you LOL. Come back next time in a smaller group or alone. That unfortunate incident was clearly a health problem of your friend that wasn't Medellin's fault. As you noted, it was one of your best trip ever so why stop going there?
Cerebro
Sorry about the hard stops in my previous post was done on my tab. Me and a friend hooked up with chicas we met on CC they didn't know each other. My girl was absolutely beautiful, better than her pictures. His girl brought a hot friend for our other roomie. The second night my girl bought a hot young thing for our other roomie so he got two nice string along on our first two nights. These chicas were not prepagos but did end up asking for pesos to buy things. Hahaha. Overall we got bargain basement deals. Fase Dos is an absolute must do for anyone's first visit. Absolutely beautiful women for 180 k.
I even had a brief conversation with a beautiful older woman on the street while eating at a sidewalk cafe. I thought she was a prepago because she was just standing around. She just happened to be waiting for a ride. She rolled down her window and waved at me as she was riding away. Man that made me feel like I still got juice.
Do the Turibus and Pablo tour which you can catch at Park Pablado. We saw an absolute 12 at the Premier Plaza mall. Overlook the city from Club Envy on top of Hotel Charlee, it's awesome. Mondongo soup is the absolute best as is the whole fried tilapia. Water went out in Pablado on my last day so I moved to the Ibh Hotel. That place is lux for about 80 bucks. They did ID the chica that was with me but no fee. Believe me do not do centro at night alone. I did not like the vibe at La Barra. Might be a good stop if you like plastic and grunge.
Due to the unfortunate incident mentioned in my previous post I doubt that I will go back to Medellin, one of my best trips ever. Next stop Cartagena.
World Jockey
05-08-16, 15:59
Just got back from MDE. I have to admit the most beautiful women I've seen anywhere in the world especially on the street. Had a great time until a member of our group died of a heart attack Saturday night. His wife thought he was on a golfing trip in the USA If you can't tell your wife or significant other that you are on a fishing or hiking trip or whatever exactly where you are going, it is best to just stay home. Anything can happen. We had to leave his body in Colombia.Well that sucks. Did any of you tell the wife?
Sorry to read about your friend. The article mentioned two girls, and my thoughts went right to the girls possible poisoned him, with a drug called Scopolamina which can easily be delivered by dropping it in liquor, which I read was around the room along with vomit. I figured the girls may have given him too much and his body tried to eliminate it. Any take on this?
Colombia JakeScopolamina is no joke. Have to watch out for the stuff from Nicaragua, CR. South to at least Colombia.
Thanks for your response. Now things are making more sense. The report on the guy with the heart attack also says that they found liquor in his room and he was accompanied by two women.
It seems like the two guys were partying too hard and they were no dudes, one in his forties and another in the 50's. To help prevent this type of thing is why I started drinking water instead of hard liquor, no drugs and just one puta at a time.
Stay safe and have fun.
CerebroAgreed. Things can get sideways once ya starting mixing it up.
If I have two girls in my room I try to make sure they don't know each other.
World Jockey
05-08-16, 16:54
I agree with much of this. The "RTFF" card can be abused sometimes. I think most of us can tell the difference between someone asking a stupid question, being a troll, or spammy. And someone that has a legit question that can be answered in 2 seconds.
That said many of us can simply ignore a post we think is bullshit. Be it a bullshit question or a bullshit reply to one.
Okay guys, I've put up my share of trip reports and details on a couple different Colombia threads. I've shared my recent experiences, hopefully so others can benefit. That said, I think I am within my rights to call BULLSHIT on some things going on here.
First off, the amount of pointless banter here is getting to be a joke. Someone opined on one of the other threads that the Medellin Reports was useless as a result of it. He might have had a point. Go to the Cartegena thread and you will see a lot more current trip reports and more details. Right now, this thread is awash with all kinds of rumors about bad stuff, that cannot be verified. Hey, a forum cannot be a rumor mill and still be a good place for solid information! And all these guys posting about how great MDE is. Well, if it is so great, why can't you post a detailed report about your experiences? We need names, places, prices, times, and practical info. If it can happen on the Cartegena thread, why can't it happen here?.
Charm City Dave
05-08-16, 17:26
Cross off the Mansion, they do not allow outside guests and require a minimum two night stay.I had no problem bringing in outside talent to the Mansion. They made her sign in but no joiner fee.
World Jockey
05-08-16, 17:36
We now return you to your scheduled program. All ready in progress.
I arrived late Tuesday night. Didn't do much because of rain. This is my second foray into Colombia, First was 3 yrs ago to Cartagena. I hooked up with a friend who is familiar with the lay of the land here.
Hit Centro Wednesday. Didn't see much talent in Parque Bolivar. First stop was New Life. Unfortunately we got there around 12:30 p and it was crowded, with more mongers arriving. The presentation had a few choice ladies. But most were thick. Big fat asses actually, with cellulite. :eek: 3 years ago, in Cartagena, I did not see girls this big. There were none to my liking so we left.
My friend suggested Affie which was nearby. They were also busy, so we only saw about 5 ladies. 2 had the big fat asses..Did you offer her a tip for BBBJ? From what I have heard (not into BJs myself) from other guys many of the girls will do it for a nominal tip.
SavePros321
05-08-16, 18:02
I had no problem bringing in outside talent to the Mansion. They made her sign in but no joiner fee.He is talking about guys who are not booked at the Mansion wanting to visit. Not you inviting chicas over.
Well that sucks.
Agreed. Things can get sideways once ya starting mixing it up.
If I have two girls in my room I try to make sure they don't know each other.My view is you need to be twice as careful when you have two girls, whether or not they know each other. Because we have only one dick, once we start enjoying ourselves with one of the girls, the other one tends to get into mischief. TO each his own, for me it's more trouble than it's worth. If you do it, I recommend you take extra care.
Pipe Layer99
05-08-16, 23:08
A quick update. Pay attention what time you go to the room with your girl. Yesterday they fucking tried to charge me for an hour. I was only with the girl for 30 minutes. (35 minutes after all the talking to give me my bill)!
I went with a sexy thing yesterday at 4. 30. They put the time on the girl's card, so you can ask to see it (that's exactly what I did). It had 4. 30 on it.
After I finished with my girl, I grabbed a shower and prepared to leave. The girl was taking her sweet ass time. I said I'm leaving and left to go pay. Talked to the old man. He is kind of a 'don't give a shit guy'. Told him I want to pay.
He just walked away. I told him again, I need to pay now, I'm leaving. He mumbled something to the lady and she asked me to wait for the girl. I said no she is in the shower. I'm ready to leave now. (why the fuck should I have to wait for her and add more time on the clock).
Talking to the guy first, then the lady wasted 2 minutes. No big deal. Then the lady went to the room to get the card from the girl. Took her a few more minutes to do that. The room was only 15 yards down the hall. So now about 5 minutes have been wasted.
She comes back and tell me it's 78,000 COP. I said what. I was only in there for 30 minutes. The old Hag repeated 78 mil. I said NO, I wasn't here for 1 hour. Show me the card. The card showed 4. 30. It was now 5. 05. That includes the extra 5 minutes wasted trying to get my bill.
NOW she says 63 mil. Thats better you old hag. (60K is the price for 45 minutes and 3 for the beer). It should have only been 45 mil plus 3. I'm not sweating the 15k ($5), because it was now 5.05 due to the 5 minutes wasted. But it's straight up bullshit that she tried to charge me for a whole hour when clearly only 30-35 had passed.
So check your time before paying!
Ticatoj was Mr. Be on both blood medication and was taking viagra. I'm.
Seeing a report from locals here that it couldn't have been the case.
Please if your on heart medicine stay off viagra. Can lead to stroke or heart attack.
The media has been brutal after you left. Bunch of liars. Be well sorry you went through it.
Sucked for all of us.Yes he did have high blood pressure and was taking medication for it. I would like to re-visit MDE but I just think there would be a cloud over the trip. How could I not think about what happened during my last visit. Maybe a trip somewhere else in between might solve that problem.
I have a bias against strip clubs. I hate them actually. They're like a boat: Just a hole to throw money into.
My friend and I were at Parque Botero around 5p. Across the street on Calle 53 is Conejitas Strip club. My friend has never been to the Medellin strip clubs. So in we went, It was practically empty and Loud. The Ladies, OH MY FUCKING GOD!! HUGE!! I was shocked!! These were USA Sized women. There were about four normal sized gals. Best one was occupied. One drink and we were out of there.
Thursday night I went on a recon of the three alleged Best Strip Clubs in Medellin. Fase 2 was first: It wasn't too busy at 930p. 10K cover. Lots of tight and short skirts. Not a fatty in the bunch. A previous poster complained about not being able to get beer here. You can get as many as you like, as long as they are Corona, Heinekin or Club Colombia. The meseros won't get them for whatever reason. You'll have to get them at the bar. Beers are 17K. Lady drinks are 22K. 180K to get to know the lady better. After the stripper finishes her set, she'll come around asking for tips. (All the clubs do this.).
I talked to a few of the ladies, only one gave me the hard sell, but she was HOT!! She looked younger from a distance, a little older up close. She reminded me of actress Courtney Thorne-Smith. After I balked on taking her, she suggested takeout. The 180K + 400K for TLN for a total of 580K! Damn near $200USD. In the back of my mind I was thinking about the CBJ rule here. She was hot, but I doubted she'd give a GFE. She had approached several guys here, and was shot down. My drink bill totaled at 174K. Probably best to keep an eye the bar tab. There is potential for them to pad the bill, IMHO, as you don't pay when you get the booze. It was the only club that kept an open tab.
I got to Luna Lunera around 1130p. Street in front was desolate. I actually thought it was closed as there were no cars parked in front. (They're parked in the rear, where the entrance is.) It's not as well lit as Fase 2. 10K cover, with a 3 beer minimum, (10K each.) I got an aguardiente bottle and soda for 110K. (That was my bar tab here.) 60 min in heaven runs 170K here. The ladies were not as hot, with some big assed ladies in the mix. None really did it for me. I got out of there after finishing the bottle, (I shared it with some of the ladies.).
I got to La Isla after 1230a. Didn't realize how far it was from Luna Lunera. Taxi ride was 10K. Cover here is also 10K. Beer was 28K! It's a huge dimly lit club. Lots of hotties in short and / or tight outfits. The ladies here were equal in looks to the Fase 2 group, IMHO. However 180K only gets you 45 min with the lady. I went around to scope out the babes. One grabbed me and started on the Hard Sell. (If I get grabbed, I return it in kind.) We talked for a bit, but when I balked, she asked for a tip as I had touched her. I talked to a few other ladies, but I just wasn't getting a good vibe. I left after 1 beer. I didn't like La Isla. Great views of Medellin as you exit their location though. Roadside eateries are there as well.
San Diego Show Club: At this point the booze was starting to do the thinking. I go there around 1a. 10K cover, with 3 beer minimum consumption at 10K each. It wasn't crowded, and the poor lighting made it difficult to see the ladies on the opposite side of the room. Lady drinks were 20K, IIRC. One lady caught my eye and I invited her to sit with me. We got to talking and I got a good vibe from her. (Probably was the booze.) Long story short 300 K with her for an hour. (Definately was the booze.) So far only lady that allowed kissing and I did enjoy my time with her.
In conclusion Strip clubs, no matter where they are, will Strip your money from your wallet. Stay away!! I can only recommend Fase 2. (I need to go back there.) :D (Why aren't the Smilies workin??)
Went there Wednesday night, (I think,) around 11p. The taxi driver said not to pay more than 50K, but I'm not sure if that included the room fee. The room fee is 20K for 30 min. It was not as I had imagined. I thought it would be more of a bar scene, finding ladies inside the bars, buy them a drink, feel them out, see if worth going for a romp. Conduct a monger interview. Not the case.
There was a good selection of ladies. Quite a few good lookers too. But there were some Way past the expiration date.
There are a lot of bars there, but they were mostly empty of women. Ice Cold Beer was 3K The ladies were standing, milling about the entrances to the bars and hotels. It reminded me of High School, with the girls hugging the walls waiting to be asked to dance.
I found several ladies attractive, but didn't want to pull just yet as more women were showing up. About an hour later, I spot a hard body, gym rat type. The bikini top barely contained her silicone tits. She was wearing tight yoga pants too. She wasn't too friendly at first. She became more friendly after my friend left. She approached me, we got to talking, and I bought her a drink, (she wanted water.).
I spent an Hour with her, (no way I could pass up on that body.) 100K + 40K for the room. The room surprisingly had hot water. Not a GFE, but still a good time, World Jockey, I offered her a tip for BBBJ, but she said no.
Went to Mayorista Saturday night, but the pickins were slim due to the rain. Two bars nearest Carrera 52 had strip shows. There were more older ladies too. I'm talking ladies late 50+. They had hungry eyes. LOL.
There are small restaurants in the area too.
Thursday Afternoon My friend and I visited Energy. I only liked one lady. Most were too skinny or had too wide asses for me.
Friday I did a tour of the casitas near Parque Bolivar. Started late at about 430p. Started at Zandaly on Carrera 47 #57a-34 on the second floor, 60k for 60 min. I liked the lineup here.
2. Kamasutras, Calle 57a # 46-29. Weak lineup none to my liking.
3. Paris Club, Carrera 47 #56-34. Only 3 ladies available when I visited. Mama didn't charge me 2k to view the lineup.
4. Latinas, Carrera 47 # 53-42. Don't go up the stairs, that's the Hotel entrance. Mama here was a little heavy handed, was not having a good day apparently. The lineup didn't appeal to me on this visit. But two guys I met were raving about this place.
5, 6, Sexy Fantasias 1 / Chicas Punto Com, located in a small mall: Centro Comercial Boulevar de Caracas, Calle 54 # 49-97. Sexy fantasias is on the 3rd floor, Chicas is on the 2nd floor. If not for the tout out front, I'd have missed these two. I liked the line up at both these places.
7. Yakusa, Carrera 50a #53-38. I had difficulty finding this place. Carrera 50a was not showing up on my map. Its a small street connecting calle 54 and Avenida Maricaibo, between carrera 50 and carrera 51. Only one gal appealed to me. The good thing about this place: it will stay open late if it has customers.
I returned to Chicas Punto com for a curvy petite spinner. Perfectly proportioned for her size. She was tiny, not a midget, just short, maybe 4'8. " Booked an hour with her for 60 K. I was ever so hopeful when I saw she had a tube of KY. Unfortunately it was for the front door. (She lost a point there.) She was too rough as she jerked me, (lost another point.) And she was bobbin too fast while doing the CBJ. (Minus 1 point.) When I told her to slow down, she didn't. (Minus 3 points. I'm fluent in Spanish, BTW.) She doesn't like DATY. (Minus 5 points.) For her size, she wasn't as tight as I had hoped. Another negative was No A / see in the room only a fan. Thank god for the Cold water only shower. With all the negative points and the Hot room, I did not cross the finish line. One of the few places open on Sunday.
On the way out of the area, I stumbled across Ejecutiva Strip Club, Calle 53 # 49-70, open til 2a per the Medellin Map, with a 50k 30 min rate. I was not approached while I had my 7k beer. But there were some decent looking ladies. For whatever reasons, I didn't notice Club Maracaibo Strip Club down from Ejecutiva at # 49-30, which also closes at 2a. Maybe because of the construction in this area.
James Dandy
05-09-16, 12:36
A quick update. Pay attention what time you go to the room with your girl. Yesterday they fucking tried to charge me for an hour. I was only with the girl for 30 minutes. (35 minutes after all the talking to give me my bill)!
I went with a sexy thing yesterday at 4. 30. They put the time on the girl's card, so you can ask to see it (that's exactly what I did). It had 4. 30 on it.
After I finished with my girl, I grabbed a shower and prepared to leave. The girl was taking her sweet ass time. I said I'm leaving and left to go pay. Talked to the old man. He is kind of a 'don't give a shit guy'. Told him I want to pay.
He just walked away. I told him again, I need to pay now, I'm leaving. He mumbled something to the lady and she asked me to wait for the girl. I said no she is in the shower. I'm ready to leave now. (why the fuck should I have to wait for her and add more time on the clock).
Talking to the guy first, then the lady wasted 2 minutes. No big deal. Then the lady went to the room to get the card from the girl. Took her a few more minutes to do that. The room was only 15 yards down the hall. So now about 5 minutes have been wasted.
She comes back and tell me it's 78,000 COP. I said what. I was only in there for 30 minutes. The old Hag repeated 78 mil. I said NO, I wasn't here for 1 hour. Show me the card. The card showed 4. 30. It was now 5. 05. That includes the extra 5 minutes wasted trying to get my bill.
NOW she says 63 mil. Thats better you old hag. (60K is the price for 45 minutes and 3 for the beer). It should have only been 45 mil plus 3. I'm not sweating the 15k ($5), because it was now 5.05 due to the 5 minutes wasted. But it's straight up bullshit that she tried to charge me for a whole hour when clearly only 30-35 had passed.
So check your time before paying!You mentioned that wasted 5 minutes three times in your post, and admit to hounding them to pay immediately after two whole minutes had already passed. Only two minutes late in Colombia is like being early! You sound uptight in your post and would be much better off, much happier if you reminded yourself it's South America. They straightened out the tab for you, so what's the big deal? It's hardly worth getting bent out of shape over, and for the record they have never tried that with me or any of my friends. If the old man was blowing you off, the woman wasn't much better and tried ripping you off, maybe it was your attitude that got you this type of service?
Member #4394
05-09-16, 17:53
The place has decent girls but the manager is a dick. Life is short and there are many casas. I don't go there.
A quick update. Pay attention what time you go to the room with your girl. Yesterday they fucking tried to charge me for an hour. I was only with the girl for 30 minutes. (35 minutes after all the talking to give me my bill)!
I went with a sexy thing yesterday at 4. 30. They put the time on the girl's card, so you can ask to see it (that's exactly what I did). It had 4. 30 on it.
After I finished with my girl, I grabbed a shower and prepared to leave. The girl was taking her sweet ass time. I said I'm leaving and left to go pay. Talked to the old man. He is kind of a 'don't give a shit guy'. Told him I want to pay.
He just walked away. I told him again, I need to pay now, I'm leaving. He mumbled something to the lady and she asked me to wait for the girl. I said no she is in the shower. I'm ready to leave now. (why the fuck should I have to wait for her and add more time on the clock).
Talking to the guy first, then the lady wasted 2 minutes. No big deal. Then the lady went to the room to get the card from the girl. Took her a few more minutes to do that. The room was only 15 yards down the hall. So now about 5 minutes have been wasted.
She comes back and tell me it's 78,000 COP. I said what. I was only in there for 30 minutes. The old Hag repeated 78 mil. I said NO, I wasn't here for 1 hour. Show me the card. The card showed 4. 30. It was now 5. 05. That includes the extra 5 minutes wasted trying to get my bill.
NOW she says 63 mil. Thats better you old hag. (60K is the price for 45 minutes and 3 for the beer). It should have only been 45 mil plus 3. I'm not sweating the 15k ($5), because it was now 5.05 due to the 5 minutes wasted. But it's straight up bullshit that she tried to charge me for a whole hour when clearly only 30-35 had passed.
So check your time before paying!
Agree, agree, agree, I agree! I can't figure out why it's so popular compared to so many other nearby places. The manager barking instructions to the girls. And the customers. Turns me off. I also don't enjoy the crowds. I find the atmosphere there stressful. Once you get past the waiting room it's more like other places but that bus station feel of the front rooms just don't do it for me.
The place has decent girls but the manager is a dick. Life is short and there are many casas. I don't go there..
Eszpresszo
05-10-16, 01:50
Went there Wednesday night, (I think,) around 11p. The taxi driver said not to pay more than 50K, but I'm not sure if that included the room fee. The room fee is 20K for 30 min. It was not as I had imagined. I thought it would be more of a bar scene, finding ladies inside the bars, buy them a drink, feel them out, see if worth going for a romp. Conduct a monger interview. Not the case.
There are small restaurants in the area too.Thanks. You just did something that really needed to be done. I have a lot more answers now, my friend, and so did a lot of people I am sure. I will try and spend a night at one the decent hotels around the corner next time in MDE and have a go at it myself.
Mr Enternational
05-10-16, 03:43
Agree, agree, agree, I agree! I can't figure out why it's so popular compared to so many other nearby places. The manager barking instructions to the girls.Did you think pimpin' was easy?
Mr Enternational
05-10-16, 03:45
You mentioned that wasted 5 minutes three times in your post, and admit to hounding them to pay immediately after two whole minutes had already passed. Only two minutes late in Colombia is like being early! You sound uptight in your post and would be much better off, much happier if you reminded yourself it's South America. They straightened out the tab for you, so what's the big deal?Actually they did not straighten it out. They charged him for 45 minutes when he only had 30 minutes.
You mentioned that wasted 5 minutes three times in your post, and admit to hounding them to pay immediately after two whole minutes had already passed. Only two minutes late in Colombia is like being early! You sound uptight in your post and would be much better off, much happier if you reminded yourself it's South America. They straightened out the tab for you, so what's the big deal?
Actually they did not straighten it out. They charged him for 45 minutes when he only had 30 minutes.Guy flies to South America to have sex with model-quality girls, pays $20 instead of $15 for a girl that would cost him $300 in the states. And we should all be upset, why?
James Dandy
05-10-16, 14:49
Actually they did not straighten it out. They charged him for 45 minutes when he only had 30 minutes.I guess he must have started his stopwatch later than they did! If one is already running out the door as the girl rinses off for a minute, I can't imagine how the session was any good anyway so why waste any money at all, just stay home if paying $13 for pussy is going to wreck your day.
Mr Enternational
05-10-16, 15:11
Guy flies to South America to have sex with model-quality girls, pays $20 instead of $15 for a girl that would cost him $300 in the states. And we should all be upset, why?1. It is not about the monetary amount involved. It is about being ripped off.
2. What does it matter what something costs in the States when we are talking about Colombia? What if he lived somewhere that pussy actually costs less than in Colombia, which he does?
3. It should actually be looked at as a percentage amount and not a monetary amount. He was charged 33% more than he should have been. If your hotel stay was supposed to be $1000 for 10 days and you went to the front desk to check out and they told you had to pay $1,333, would you say well this is a luxury hotel so I shouldn't be upset?
Colombia Jake
05-10-16, 16:09
Agree, agree, agree, I agree! I can't figure out why it's so popular compared to so many other nearby places. The manager barking instructions to the girls. And the customers. Turns me off. I also don't enjoy the crowds. I find the atmosphere there stressful. Once you get past the waiting room it's more like other places but that bus station feel of the front rooms just don't do it for me.The place New Life has become too popular, and with it so has the attitude of the management! We still stop by on my tours, but the first sign of over crowding or attitude we head in a different direction. We have a couple of Brits here this week and having the best time! Night tour tonight! Kind of out of left field, but I think it should be said, if you were the lucky guy who was with one of my most lovable girls named Carolina Gutiérrez, and may have had a argument with her at Pueblito Paisa or with her in general 8 + or. Months or so ago! Congratulations! You are going to be a new Dad! Contact me with a private message only if your the guy, and want to be the Dad!
Thanks,
Colombia Jake.
That is something I never understand, guys wants to go to a 3rd world country and pay the monthly income just to hit the pussy where you could of pay the normal price, you are now making the girls smart and they won't take less and starts to only looking for gringos and demanding only higher prices, local dudes getting mad at gringos now because they let girls overcharging them and they cannot pay it. You can't compare 3rd world prices with 1st world prices because a normal Colombian don't have a 1st world salary. The minimum monthly salary is at 230 usd. So now you not only getting overcharged for pussy, you are making enemies, and some girls will even set you up to get robbed because if you are paying 20 X the normal price you have a lot of money and now they think also all the foreigners do have a lot of money and they all will be targets. I don't understand why some guys be saying a hotel room above 40 usd is expensive where you are willing to pay 10 x that amount for just hitting a overcharged pussy.
I guess he must have started his stopwatch later than they did! If one is already running out the door as the girl rinses off for a minute, I can't imagine how the session was any good anyway so why waste any money at all, just stay home if paying $13 for pussy is going to wreck your day.Haha. I can see him hurdling stairs to get to that window before the 30 minute mark. I'm going to lay the smart money bet and say there wasn't a tip involved.
Look, we all love getting a deal, and $15 pussy tops the list of great deals. New Life is the McBrothel of Medellin, it's fast and cold, the owner's a first rate dick, and yes, it's in Colombia, where people aren't the quickest. So go somewhere else. There are 20 other places within 5-6 blocks that have 'the knock' so you don't go over.
From the viewpoint of a Medellin resident who frequents these places several times a week, my primary thought is the impression that this attitude leaves. Five years ago, prepagos were shoving each other out of the way to get to the gringo, these days, not so much. I'm in these places a few times a week, and I'd like them to be happy to see me when I walk in. Not cringing at the prospect of another crew of low-class gringo chichipatos. Arguing over a 10 k peso tip for an uncovered BJ.
Went out on rainy Sun Night. My fault for leaving at 1a, as it limited my options. First stop was Bar La Noche on calle 52 near the zoo. At 1 a, the street is deserted, but there is light road traffic. Wasn't sure if it was open when the cab puled up to it. It's a weird setup. Barred door is the entrance, to the right of the small lobby is the lounge area, for want of a better word. To the left, were rooms. Sign on the wall said Hostel. The Lounge area was sparse of furniture: Three small couches, some chairs, and small tables. Three local dudes were conversing and drinking with 3 chicks, all in the same 20 something age group. Three other dudes in the opposite corner just drinking. Only two chicks available and presented to me. Good thing about this place is that it's open 24 hrs. Chicks were young, but none that I had to meet. Half a beer, and I left. (They had to buzz me out.) Also told me they couldn't call a taxi as they didn't come to this location. Luckily, there were plenty of cabs traveling on calle 52, so I had not problem getting one. I asked the cabbie were I could find some "cuero," (literally leather, or skin, but Spanish slang for hookers.).
The cabbie suggested Hilton a bar and strip club in Centro, and stated they were open til 4a. At 2a, its a very sketchy part of Medellin. Lots of people on the street on front of the place. Taberna La Nubia was down the street from it. No cover to get in. Beers are 4.5k. Lady drinks were 5k. As I walked in, I saw a decent looking blonde sitting by the entrance.
I very thin druggy looking chick latched onto me, (of course.) She brought the blonde over, when it was obvious I had no interest in her. Got her, (for getting the blonde,) and the blonde a drink. The blonde was very friendly, touchy feely. She had a decent bod, small tits. Her hard sell wasn't that hard. Other dudes were dancing with the ladies, and she suggested we dance, so we did a few times. (They played some decent Latin dance music.).
There were about 8 other ladies in the club, thought a big tit curvy babe was the pick of the litter. They were all on the young side. The blonde wasn't doing it for me so I left after 2 beers. Before I left, I saw one Stripper. Also this place has a weird men's urinal: it's partially exposed in the main sitting area, with a wall maybe waist high.
I'd come back here just for the friendliness of the ladies. But unfortunately, I'm not sure where it's located. That Hilton name skewers a Google search. I've asked some other cabbies, but they didn't know.
I went down the street to Taberna La Nubia, it was full of people. It's just a bar. The highlight was a decent looking babe was passed out over a table in the back. Half a beer at I was out of there.
From there went to Mayorista, but at 330a and rain, plus Mothers Day, it was dead.
I told my gringo friend about my Sunday night, and he was interested in joining me Monday night. We got to the deserted Centro area around 930p. Unfortunately due to Mothers Day, only Maracaibo was open. (Will have to return to Ejecutiva some other night.) My gringo friend and I were impressed with the Lineup. Some young thin and curvy babes. Only three were BIG. Strippers were good too. Beer and water was 7.5 K. Lady drinks were 10K. 30 min in heaven is 85K. Apparently, the hour rate is up to the lady, so negotiate. Gringo got himself a thin young hottie. I grabbed another Hottie when she finished her stripper set. She was gorgeous, but she kept getting up and leaving me. Also drank her LD too quickly. I thought she was coked up too.
She left again, so I motioned over a curvy babe sitting nearby. I had seen here walk by, while I was sitting with Ms Get up and Leave, and liked how her ass moved. Bought her a drink, was able to do the monger interview and got Good vibe from her. Her hour rate was 140K.
BINGO!! Got BBBJ and GFE from her. (Finally, WTF?!) Had a great time with her. Tipped her 20K for the good job she did. She also does back door action. I need to repeat with this one.
T if you were the lucky guy who was with one of my most lovable girls named Carolina Gutirrez, and may have had a argument with her at Pueblito Paisa or with her in general 8 + or. Months or so ago! Congratulations! You are going to be a new Dad! Contact me with a private message only if your the guy, and want to be the Dad!
Thanks,
Colombia Jake.Hey guys!
If you are going to bareback, you got to pull out. Its just not right to leave your feral spawn down there.
Charm City Dave
05-11-16, 02:42
if you were the lucky guy who was with one of my most lovable girls named Carolina Gutirrez, and may have had a argument with her at Pueblito Paisa or with her in general 8 + or. Months or so ago! Congratulations! You are going to be a new Dad! Contact me with a private message only if your the guy, and want to be the Dad!
Thanks,
Colombia Jake.Wow, I'd say coulda been me, but after a close call some years ago in Rio I got that possibility surgically eliminated. Carolina is a hell of a sweet kid, hope it works out well for her. I had opined in this forum some months ago that a monger should wrap it or cut it (the later being my choice), of course that led to an intelligent and well mannered exchange of divergent view points as one often find here. Say Hi to Eric!
World Jockey
05-11-16, 03:16
World Jockey, I offered her a tip for BBBJ, but she said no.
Went to Mayorista Saturday night, but the pickins were slim due to the rain.Haha better to swing and miss than to not swing at all. Glad to see you found at least one SW spinner. Last time I went I think it was Paisa Golden Girls night.
And yes strip clubs are mostly shit. I hate them too. At least the ones in Medellin are full service as opposed to USA teases. The one time the strips are slightly better IMO is during the early evening hours.
World Jockey
05-11-16, 03:35
I did a mini report on it. Did a mini report on it a few months back. If you are getting a nearby hotel thins may not pertain to you but. It seems some of the girls may get kick backs from hotels on the strip. They will only work in certain hotels and not others. The one the girls I spoke to wouldn't work in seemed a bit nicer and more controlled. When I say controlled I mean; when I when to the girls choice hotel her friend walked in on us before our session was over. Not cool getting caught literally with my pants down. After I realized I didn't have a knife to my back I left.
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP.
Thanks. You just did something that really needed to be done. I have a lot more answers now, my friend, and so did a lot of people I am sure. I will try and spend a night at one the decent hotels around the corner next time in MDE and have a go at it myself.
That is something I never understand, guys wants to go to a 3rd world country and pay the monthly income just to hit the pussy where you could of pay the normal price, you are now making the girls smart and they won't take less and starts to only looking for gringos and demanding only higher prices, local dudes getting mad at gringos now because they let girls overcharging them and they cannot pay it. You can't compare 3rd world prices with 1st world prices because a normal Colombian don't have a 1st world salary. The minimum monthly salary is at 230 usd. So now you not only getting overcharged for pussy, you are making enemies, and some girls will even set you up to get robbed because if you are paying 20 X the normal price you have a lot of money and now they think also all the foreigners do have a lot of money and they all will be targets. I don't understand why some guys be saying a hotel room above 40 usd is expensive where you are willing to pay 10 x that amount for just hitting a overcharged pussy.A lot of really good points in this one really long paragraph!
El Mechanico
05-11-16, 16:59
Hey guys!
If you are going to bareback, you got to pull out. Its just not right to leave your feral spawn down there.I hope you are joking! You don't really believe that 'Pulling out' will prevent unwanted pregnancies, do you? If you do, you either have a lot of unwanted offspring or you are extremely lucky & should play the lotto often!
El Mechanico
Manizales911
05-11-16, 17:05
Its just not right to leave your feral spawn down there.That's a dirt bag statement, how do you know that the guy isn't going to man up and take the responsibility? It's also pretty insulting to the child.
El Mechanico
05-11-16, 17:11
Kind of out of left field, but I think it should be said, if you were the lucky guy who was with one of my most lovable girls named Carolina Gutirrez, and may have had a argument with her at Pueblito Paisa or with her in general 8 + or. Months or so ago! Congratulations! You are going to be a new Dad! Contact me with a private message only if your the guy, and want to be the Dad!
Thanks,
Colombia Jake.Really Jake? She points the finger and you take her word for it. Unless you kept a 24 HR watch over her for 2 weeks before & 2 weeks after that incident / argument 8 months ago, it is quite an extrapolation to accept 'the gringo did it!' at face value. Of course she would want someone other than the novio, vecino or Colombiano to pay for everything for the next 18 years. If the Gringo does step forward, a simple DNA test will prove one way or another. Of course, it will be all at his expense. If she refuses then that refusal will be all the answer 'The Gringo' needs to know. Very unfortunate. I hope the guy, if he is the padre, didn't lie to her about being clipped, if he did, then shame on him. Again, a simple DNA test will tell, but if he's going to lie about being clipped, why would he fess up & go back & be a good daddy?
El Mechanico
That's a dirt bag statement, how do you know that the guy isn't going to man up and take the responsibility? It's also pretty insulting to the child.Hahaha, I think thou doth protest too much.
Perhaps you should make allowances for humor in all this. That the statement was posted by someone that on a good day exaggerates, on others simply makes shit up, should be taken into account as well.
That's a dirt bag statement, how do you know that the guy isn't going to man up and take the responsibility? It's also pretty insulting to the child.Holden is that and more. Some people have that holier than thou attitude Mani and this guy is one of them. I thank you for having the balls to say what you did as these types of people should be called out.
With that being said, continue to enjoy life to the fullest and continue posting, as your postings are always beneficial to the ISG community.
KingAmongKings
05-11-16, 21:20
Hey guys,
My buddy is coming to Medellin next week. He said he bought a one way ticket because he is not sure when he will be heading back to the US. His airline said he could be denied entry into Colombia without a return ticket. Anybody experience this situation? Any advice will be much appreciated.
Older Gringo and I hit Zandaly midday yesterday. We both liked the lineup here. There were a lot of ladies available at this hour. I picked a cute short curvy blonde, maybe 5 ft tall, if that. She was wearing a black chemise that showed of her nice round bottom. I spotted her as we came in. Older Gringo liked her too. He picked a taller thin brunette. We both chose the 60 min option for 60K. 30 min is 35K. Good thing about this place, they have timers in the room, and you pay up front. So no problems about being short timed and over charged. The rooms also have hot water.
My little hottie was just perfect for me. She had pert tits, When I first saw her, I thought she was siliconed, but she's all natural. Not a flaw I could see on her body. Her nether regions were perfect too. It's been a while since I last saw a pretty brown eye. Too bad she doesn't do the back door. Only negative was the CBJ. She refused an extra tip for it.
In contrast, Older Gringo's girl gave him the option of with or without, (he wisely chose BBBJ.) I had a great time with my hottie, because of her youth and good looks.
Hey guys,
My buddy is coming to Medellin next week. He said he bought a one way ticket because he is not sure when he will be heading back to the US. His airline said he could be denied entry into Colombia without a return ticket. Anybody experience this situation? Any advice will be much appreciated.Yes that is true Queenie. If I am not mistaken Spirit Air requires to see a return ticket. This was also discussed in a thread in the the. Are recently.
Hey guys,
My buddy is coming to Medellin next week. He said he bought a one way ticket because he is not sure when he will be heading back to the US. His airline said he could be denied entry into Colombia without a return ticket. Anybody experience this situation? Any advice will be much appreciated.Buy a REFUNDABLE ticket for the return flight, and once he enters through customs, just get the refund. I've never been asked in Colombia to prove that I have a return ticket, but they use to do it all the time in the Philippines and the refundable ticket was the best way around it.
SlamCity7777
05-12-16, 04:19
Hey guys,
My buddy is coming to Medellin next week. He said he bought a one way ticket because he is not sure when he will be heading back to the US. His airline said he could be denied entry into Colombia without a return ticket. Anybody experience this situation? Any advice will be much appreciated.Yep. Happens a lot you have to have a exit ticket. I had a problem with a land crossing from Peru to Chile. I was only passing and was going to fly home from Argentina and that wasn't good enough. Just bean counter stuff but he might get asked.
Hey guys,
My buddy is coming to Medellin next week. He said he bought a one way ticket because he is not sure when he will be heading back to the US. His airline said he could be denied entry into Colombia without a return ticket. Anybody experience this situation? Any advice will be much appreciated.Many of the airlines will not allow you to board the plane without a return ticket. Yes, you can buy a one-way ticket, but they will stop you at check-in. I have used miles for one way and purchased a ticket for the other way, and I have to show the agent both tickets at check-in.
Eszpresszo
05-12-16, 17:39
When abroad I always use ATM's. Is there an ATM in the arrival hall of Medellin international airport (Rio Negro)?Yep. On both levels. Currency exchanges as well. The customs agent advised me to avoid the currency exchange in the customs area because the one upstairs offered a better exchange rate.
Colombia Jake
05-12-16, 20:57
Really Jake? She points the finger and you take her word for it. Unless you kept a 24 HR watch over her for 2 weeks before & 2 weeks after that incident / argument 8 months ago, it is quite an extrapolation to accept 'the gringo did it!' at face value. Of course she would want someone other than the novio, vecino or Colombiano to pay for everything for the next 18 years. If the Gringo does step forward, a simple DNA test will prove one way or another. Of course, it will be all at his expense. If she refuses then that refusal will be all the answer 'The Gringo' needs to know. Very unfortunate. I hope the guy, if he is the padre, didn't lie to her about being clipped, if he did, then shame on him. Again, a simple DNA test will tell, but if he's going to lie about being clipped, why would he fess up & go back & be a good daddy?
El MechanicoYeah this the real deal! Known her for 6 years and even had a gringo boyfriend, I introduced them for 2.5 years. She never asked me to do this, and I sort of had to pull the information out of her after teasing her that it has to be a gringo baby, and believe me there were no lies just an accident! I'm sure if the guy went there to see her she would say absolutely no problem about the DNA. I thought it was an opportunity for some lucky guy to be a dad if he wants to be, without all the trappings you encounter in the USA, and it also would be nice for the baby to have a dad. I think it would interesting to see what you guys think about what the minimum responsibility would be if you were the guy? Send $200 a month and a few video calls or what?
Thanks,
Colombia Jake.
Ricardo Torres
05-13-16, 03:17
Yeah this the real deal! Known her for 6 years and even had a gringo boyfriend, I introduced them for 2.5 years. She never asked me to do this, and I sort of had to pull the information out of her after teasing her that it has to be a gringo baby, and believe me there were no lies just an accident! I'm sure if the guy went there to see her she would say absolutely no problem about the DNA. I thought it was an opportunity for some lucky guy to be a dad if he wants to be, without all the trappings you encounter in the USA, and it also would be nice for the baby to have a dad. I think it would interesting to see what you guys think about what the minimum responsibility would be if you were the guy? Send $200 a month and a few video calls or what?
Thanks,
Colombia Jake.Well I would assume the support would be in the area you mentioned. A good friend of mine who used to own a hotel in Medellin and also ran a ex-pat website pertaining to Colombia a couple of years ago, and my friend O. P from here posted about a guy named Jake Drivas who owned thousands of dollars in child support in Florida, but he ran off to Medellin so he would not have to take care of his responsibilities. I am sure there are many like him. Very sad that there are worthless in the world who do not want to accept there responsibilities.
My take on it is for men to step up and do the right thing, be responsible, instead of letting the mother and the baby struggle and suffer.
Well I would assume the support would be in the area you mentioned. A good friend of mine who used to own a hotel in Medellin and also ran a ex-pat website pertaining to Colombia a couple of years ago, and my friend O. P from here posted about a guy named Jake Drivas who owned thousands of dollars in child support in Florida, but he ran off to Medellin so he would not have to take care of his responsibilities. I am sure there are many like him. Very sad that there are worthless in the world who do not want to accept there responsibilities.
My take on it is for men to step up and do the right thing, be responsible, instead of letting the mother and the baby struggle and suffer.Jake Drivas sounds like a total scum. Colombia is such a great place, too bad the US has exported some of its fecal matter.
Mr Enternational
05-13-16, 11:32
Really Jake? She points the finger and you take her word for it. Unless you kept a 24 HR watch over her for 2 weeks before & 2 weeks after that incident / argument 8 months ago, it is quite an extrapolation to accept 'the gringo did it!' at face value. Mama's baby, daddy's maybe.
5 chicks have accused me of being the father of their child. And these chicks are not even hookers. So just imagine. None of them have actually let me see the kids live or talk to the kids. They have only sent pictures. None of them ever wanted to submit to a test. I even bought one and was on my way to Guatemala when the girl told me that she would not let me do it. So I took that shit back to Walmart and got my $30 back. As the kids get older you can pretty much tell whether it is yours or not. When it is a baby not so much so. Hell, all babys fucking look alike.
Mexican chick in California: Finally fessed up. Turns out it was her boyfriend's.
Chick in Brazil: Turns out the pics were of when her daughter who is already grown was a child. I knew the pictures looked kind of dated, but I figured it was because of Brazilian "technology".
Chick in Mexico: Never said anything about being pregnant. Just one day up and said she had a kid from me. Claims to have sent the child to her sister and brother in law to live with them.
Chick in Guatemala: Turns out the cowboy who works on her father's ranch is actually the father, but she wanted it to be me.
And just recently chick in Dominican Republic is pregnant now. At first I thought she was lying, but she sent all the paperwork from the doctor and ultrasound pics. Dates line up perfectly. I was going to wait it out and see what happens but I got tired of her trying guilt trip me for not giving her money for food and she is there starving, etc. A couple of days ago I had to let the cat out the bag and tell her she needed to look for the real father because I had an operation 3 years ago, so it is definitely not mine. She cursed me out and I have not heard from her since.
So yeah, if you are taking their word for it then you are a mf fool. I never gave any of them any money. Before I hand over 1 cent I will know 100% if the baby is mine or not. Well that was before. Now I already know 100% they could not be mine because of the vasectomy.
James Dandy
05-13-16, 14:36
Mama's baby, daddy's maybe.
So yeah, if you are taking their word for it then you are a mf fool. I never gave any of them any money. Before I hand over 1 cent I will know 100% if the baby is mine or not. Well that was before. Now I already know 100% they could not be mine because of the vasectomy.Especially considering already another member on the board is only sure it isn't his baby because he got snipped a few months earlier. So this girl goes around fucking several clients with no protection and letting them dump loads in her, and now months later Jake is sure who the daddy is? LOL.
Hi Everybody,
I am planning to go to Latin America (Central and South America) for mongering this summer. Where can I find white girls (not Hispanic or Black) in Latin America? I would prefer the girl's age between 18 and 20. Thank you very much for your advice in advance.
Charm City Dave
05-13-16, 16:35
Mama's baby, daddy's maybe.
5 chicks have accused me of being the father of their child. And these chicks are not even hookers. So just imagine. None of them have actually let me see the kids live or talk to the kids. They have only sent pictures. None of them ever wanted to submit to a test. I even bought one and was on my way to Guatemala when the girl told me that she would not let me do it. So I took that shit back to Walmart and got my $30 back. As the kids get older you can pretty much tell whether it is yours or not. When it is a baby not so much so. Hell, all babys fucking look alike.In the late 90's on one of several trips to Thailand caught a girl taking the condom from the waste basket and trying to push my Jizz back up her. Ya never know. After that until I finally got the weed wacked, would flush the rubber down the toilet.
Old New Guy
05-13-16, 16:44
Hi Everybody,
I am planning to go to Latin America (Central and South America) for mongering this summer. Where can I find white girls (not Hispanic or Black) in Latin America? I would prefer the girl's age between 18 and 20. Thank you very much for your advice in advance.In all LA countries actually.
Old New Guy
05-13-16, 16:51
And just recently chick in Dominican Republic is pregnant now. At first I thought she was lying, but she sent all the paperwork from the doctor and ultrasound pics. Dates line up perfectly. I was going to wait it out and see what happens but I got tired of her trying guilt trip me for not giving her money for food and she is there starving, etc. A couple of days ago I had to let the cat out the bag and tell her she needed to look for the real father because I had an operation 3 years ago, so it is definitely not mine. She cursed me out and I have not heard from her since.
There must be an industry for this. A DR chick did the same to me many, many years ago, dates matched, doc certificate looked good. Knowing her ways, I had serious doubts. The thing dragged on for a while until I and told her firmly that if it was true, she just had to wait and had nothing to worry since she knew my name and address. She cursed and was never heard anymore.
Hi Everybody,
I am planning to go to Latin America (Central and South America) for mongering this summer. Where can I find white girls (not Hispanic or Black) in Latin America? I would prefer the girl's age between 18 and 20. Thank you very much for your advice in advance.Costa Rica has the most ethnically pure Spanish lineage of all Latin American countries (over 97% pure Spanish). But, I see more light skinned and blondes in Colombia.
That's a dirt bag statement, how do you know that the guy isn't going to man up and take the responsibility?
It's also pretty insulting to the child.How do I know the guy isn't going to Man UP? Jajajajajaj. You do realize this is a monger forum don't you? Not exactly a place for model citizens, is it?
MedellinGringo
05-13-16, 19:37
Really Jake? She points the finger and you take her word for it. Unless you kept a 24 HR watch over her for 2 weeks before & 2 weeks after that incident / argument 8 months ago, it is quite an extrapolation to accept 'the gringo did it!' at face value. Of course she would want someone other than the novio, vecino or Colombiano to pay for everything for the next 18 years. If the Gringo does step forward, a simple DNA test will prove one way or another. Of course, it will be all at his expense. If she refuses then that refusal will be all the answer 'The Gringo' needs to know. Very unfortunate. I hope the guy, if he is the padre, didn't lie to her about being clipped, if he did, then shame on him. Again, a simple DNA test will tell, but if he's going to lie about being clipped, why would he fess up & go back & be a good daddy?
El MechanicoI got accused of being the father of child while living in Cali. The chick lived with me for a while so I thought it was a possibility.
I paid her health insurance during the pregnancy which was about 30 bucks a month at the time. Baby was born, did a DNA test.
Results came back "zero percent probability of it being mine". I was happy she let me do the test just to make sure.
Colombia Jake
05-13-16, 21:41
Well I would assume the support would be in the area you mentioned. A good friend of mine who used to own a hotel in Medellin and also ran a ex-pat website pertaining to Colombia a couple of years ago, and my friend O. P from here posted about a guy named Jake Drivas who owned thousands of dollars in child support in Florida, but he ran off to Medellin so he would not have to take care of his responsibilities. I am sure there are many like him. Very sad that there are worthless in the world who do not want to accept there responsibilities.
My take on it is for men to step up and do the right thing, be responsible, instead of letting the mother and the baby struggle and suffer.Especially considering already another member on the board is only sure it isn't his baby because he got snipped a few months earlier. So this girl goes around fucking several clients with no protection and letting them dump loads in her, and now months later Jake is sure who the daddy is? LOL.
Jake Drivas sounds like a total scum. Colombia is such a great place, too bad the US has exported some of its fecal matter.
The point that some guys seem to be missing is Carolina never pointed the finger at anyone, its up to the guy if he wants to? The smart guys who have been fixed just need to smile and be happy! The guy who decided to shout out that he was fixed and obviously proud that he had been with her some time back just confused the issue! She never said it was him. Only gave a time frame. The baby is due any week now so a DNA test will be easy if anyone is interested!
Usually the guys who yell the loudest that someones being a scum are usually the worst offenders! I gave my x wife a $250,000 paid for home with 100% of my money in our divorce! She then married a guy who made a lot more money than me who loved my sons like they were his own, and on top of that I paid my child support in full until the day I left! Here in Medellin, I started a new life, and made a lot less money! Based on my income here, I am still paid in full! My sons have been well taken care of! If you referring to a guy named John who thought he was the gringo sheriff here, said lots of negative things on websites, and owned a hotel here where he forbid guys to have sex with the girls they brought to the hotel! Do you really think I care what a guy with that business model has to say?
I'll take the heat any day, for doing what I needed to be happy in this life, and never once regret it! I'm here to have fun, and help guys stuck in the world I was once a part of experience the Dream life, I've lived for a long time! Almost everyone who stays here tells me, it was the best vacation of their life! The girls thank me for helping improve their lives as well! I know I'm doing nice things for others, as well as myself, and I just brush off the jealous haters! Thanks for your support!
Colombia Jake.
Why not go to Europe (Russia, Moldova, Bosnia, Czech Republic, etc.) instead?
Hi Everybody,
I am planning to go to Latin America (Central and South America) for mongering this summer. Where can I find white girls (not Hispanic or Black) in Latin America? I would prefer the girl's age between 18 and 20. Thank you very much for your advice in advance.
Manizales911
05-14-16, 00:48
How do I know the guy isn't going to Man UP? Jajajajajaj. You do realize this is a monger forum don't you? Not exactly a place for model citizens, is it?Well I am the father of a soon to be 7 year old daughter in Colombia and yeah I manned up and have taken good care of her since birth. And I know of one other member here, same thing.
SlamCity7777
05-14-16, 02:16
Why not go to Europe (Russia, Moldova, Bosnia, Czech Republic, etc.) instead?For reals! Latina girls are not white girls if you (OG poster) want white girls go to Europe bro. If you want light skinned Latinas go to Argentina or Spain.
Muchas morenas.
Larry David
05-14-16, 04:57
For reals! Latina girls are not white girls if you (OG poster) want white girls go to Europe bro. If you want light skinned Latinas go to Argentina or Spain.
Muchas morenas.Or southern Brazil and certain parts of Paraguay settled by Germans and EEs.
C Jack Sparrow
05-14-16, 07:35
Wide def. Of that term.
But my FB friend whom I once met on Cupid and also is on you tube has also been Q'ubo (gossip newspaper) girl, and you find her on Youtube. Note; she has an IQ of an retard, Im not joking.
JULIANA ELEJALDE, try to beome friend with her on FB.
She has 2700 friends, 300-500-700 are girls just like her (the rest is male bodybuilders), and a Peruvian CEO-TV that hosted the show she was on in Peru-TV, is on Youtube. ; only photos from the gym, perfect abdomen, half naked, party pics. I have found some of them that I know are semi / prepagos.
After Juliana added you, you might introduce yourself via a message first, then you can send messages to these girls, they are not casa girls so it's another game more discreet game.
This girl, Vanessa Rodriguez: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1557133992&sk=about is not just Medellin. She is kind of public figure on FB, but has tons of female top models as friends you can contact, surely some are from Medellin and the cities around.
JENNIFER ZAPATA; she has models for $US200 for 2-3 hours, CBJ I think. It's +600 mil pesos.
On of them are VANESSA VELASQUEZ: https://www.facebook.com/vanessa.velasquez.7370?fref=ts one / some guys have already had her, but I don't know if she got that $US200.
Jennifer Zapata is agent for a fancy real estate agency and Pimp her friends to clients, and means that in our countries we pay 200 dollars and more, so why should these prepago-models get less?, not the brightest star in the universe logic; that's just WHY we go to 3rd world countries; we get models hookers for a fraction of the cost.
I just say; pay tops 300 mil including BBBJ if you are a clean gentleman, that is Loutron prices. Jennifer meant $US200 for 2-3 hours, but whats the use of that if she you excite you to get off in 11 minutes. What will you do for the rest 2 hours and 49 minutes; she can say, Hello baby and You Hola, como estas?
300mil COP tops, even if it is 2-3 hours, if not to ruin the market for all other mongers (many working hard 50 weeks a year, just get get some paisa-pussy for 2 weeks. And then it can not be at US / GB prices. +85% of us her are medium income guys, often with mortages and childsupport, draining the possible travel-budget.
Think with your brain. I'm on a mission, to get these girls available for normal Medellin prices, or get them to leave the market.
Add Jennifers models prepagos:
C Jack Sparrow
05-14-16, 08:10
The difference is none to some of the best New Life or Energy girls or from Paisasdivinas or Masajistaspaisas, that charge 120-150.
Mr Enternational
05-14-16, 08:21
Let me know when some of those perfect tens start coming without plastic surgery.
Old New Guy
05-14-16, 10:08
For reals! Latina girls are not white girls if you (OG poster) want white girls go to Europe bro.
Oh you think so? You don't know about Chile then. Argentina has been mentioned already, that it's a given. Paraguay and Uruguay, places where not many mongers go, most girls are white.
South Brazil the same. Many, many pure white people in Latina America. But it would be time enough to drops that shit of looking for a given color. Any beautiful woman is beautiful.
Hi Everybody,
I am planning to go to Latin America (Central and South America) for mongering this summer. Where can I find white girls (not Hispanic or Black) in Latin America? I would prefer the girl's age between 18 and 20. Thank you very much for your advice in advance.I think you're confusing terms. If they're from a Spanish-speaking country, they are "Hispanic. " Regardless of whether they are real white, real black, or anywhere in between.
As others have said, you're best odds are heading to the southern part of South America: Argentina, Chili, Uruguay, and the Southern part of Brasil (Brasilenas aren't Hispanic but they are "Latinas"). You can find some very light-complexioned Latinas in just about any part of Latin American, but the afore-mentioned have larger percentages.
Or better yet, just head to Europe. The FKKs are hard to top. And they happen to have virtually all white girls (mostly Eastern European).
Old New Guy
05-14-16, 11:10
I think you're confusing terms. If they're from a Spanish-speaking country, they are "Hispanic. " Regardless of whether they are real white, real black, or anywhere in between.
I'm afraid that you are confusing terms too. "Hispanic" is a rather strange and vaguely derogative definition, used only in the US by police or census, to describe I'm not even sure which kind of people, when residing in the US.
Certainly does not apply to anyone outside the US.
http://www.diversityjournal.com/9724-hispanic-or-latino-which-is-correct/
How do I know the guy isn't going to Man UP? Jajajajajaj. You do realize this is a monger forum don't you? Not exactly a place for model citizens, is it?Although I agree with many of your posts, I will take exception to this one. What do you consider a model citizen? I will stack my credentials up against almost anyone. Just because I don't conform to the moral code of a bunch of self-righteous people does not diminish me. In the end, I will not be judged by them.
How do I know the guy isn't going to Man UP? Jajajajajaj. You do realize this is a monger forum don't you? Not exactly a place for model citizens, is it?Speak for yourself bro.
I think you're confusing terms. If they're from a Spanish-speaking country, they are "Hispanic. " Regardless of whether they are real white, real black, or anywhere in between.
I think you are confusing terms and I also respectfully disagree with Old New Guy. LOL.
In the USA, if someone has both native American blood and European Spanish or any other European blood, he or she is called Hispanic. Since the official language of this forum is American English, so I called them Hispanic.
In the USA, if someone has both native American blood and European Spanish or any other European blood, he or she is called Hispanic.I don't know what part of the USA you come from, but please stay there. You don't know what you are talking about.
Mr Enternational
05-14-16, 18:50
In the USA, if someone has both native American blood and European Spanish or any other European blood, he or she is called Hispanic. Since the official language of this forum is American English, so I called them Hispanic.I think many Native Americans with European blood on various "Indian" reservations throughout the USA would disagree with you.
I don't know what part of the USA you come from, but please stay there. You don't know what you are talking about.One correction: I should add "is originated from a spanish-speaking country in Latin America", so it should: In the USA, if someone has both native American blood and European Spanish or any other European blood and is originated from a spanish-speaking country in Latin America, he or she is called Hispanic.
Don't just reject bro. Give your shot! I am listening.
Sounds to me like you are defining a mestizo. All mestizos are part hispanic, but by no means are all hispanics mestizos. But your original definition was just plain silly. Like if Tonto married Princess Di, their kids would be hispanic.
Sounds to me like you are defining a mestizo. All mestizos are part hispanic, but by no means are all hispanics mestizos. But your original definition was just plain silly. I don't know whether you were born and grew up in USA. If you were in USA and called Fidel Castro or former Mexican president Vicente Fox hispanics, people would laugh at you, you can call them Latinos, but not hispanics.
...Like if Tonto married Princess Di, their kids would be hispanic.I wrote in my previous post: "...If someone has both native American blood and European Spanish or any other European blood and is originated from a spanish-speaking country in Latin America, he or she is called Hispanic. " I guess you mean Tonto is pure native American, then their kids would be native American.
If you are not American growing up in USA, don't discuss with me on this subject anymore because your reasonings are very theoretical.
Umm like people from Spain? They are hispanic but certainly not mestizo. Or anyone whose ancestors came from Spain and did not intermarry with the indigenous people. And since I doubt Fox is a Spanish name, I think his case might be a bit more complex. His mother's name was Quesada. She was a basca. And his father's father was from Ohio. So he's probably not a very good example.
Umm like people from Spain? They are hispanic but certainly not mestizo. .You call people from Spain hispanics? What a stupid remark! You are embarrassing yourself. In the USA, if you say to people from Spain they are hispanics, they will get angry at you, just like you say to irish people from Ireland Ireland is a part of Great Britain. From your remark, I know you are not an American because almost every American knows pure spanish people from Spain are not hispanics. Hold yourself to see how American punters react to your remark.
Eszpresszo
05-15-16, 14:36
Wow, after a spate of nice trip reports, this thread has descended into all kinds of nonsense. Need a definition of Hispanic? There's an exhaustive article on the term in Wikipedia. No point in trying to pass oneself off as clever by arguing semantics. If you can't post a trip report about Medellin, at least post something about mongering, or something relevant about Medellin.
You call people from Spain hispanics? What a stupid remark! You are embarrassing yourself. In the USA, if you say to people from Spain they are hispanics, they will get angry at you, just like you say to irish people from Ireland Ireland is a part of Great Britain. From your remark, I know you are not an American because almost every American knows pure spanish people from Spain are not hispanics. Hold yourself to see how American punters react to your remark.I personally don't refer to people from Spain as "Hispanic". But I do refer to Irish people as being from Ireland! And the only portion of the Emerald Isle that is part of the United Kingdom is Northern Ireland. Now, if you want to see somebody get angry, then tell an Irishman that he's British and a subject of the Queen and see what kind of reaction you get LOLOLOLOL!
Old New Guy
05-15-16, 15:12
In the USA, if someone has both native American blood and European Spanish or any other European blood, he or she is called Hispanic. Since the official language of this forum is American English, so I called them Hispanic.Are you here to make us laugh? "Any other European blood" so someone originally from Germany is now "Hispanic"?
And there is now an "official language forum"?
Dude, open and read a web page or two sometime, it can't hurt you really.
Are you here to make us laugh? "Any other European blood" so someone originally from Germany is now "Hispanic"?
And there is now an "official language forum"?
Dude, open and read a web page or two sometime, it can't hurt you really.When you, a "smart" guy, read posts, do you only read earlier one? Read my correction on my later posts, Dude.
I be RTFF Wayback many pages several times and I'm coming in a week, for first time in Medellin but not Colombia, with Spanish skills. Some of the information is good and some a bit old. I've seen the map with all the Casas, for the daytime. I am looking for some current is intelligence on the city please. Especially good clubs, or take out or delivery in the evenings, and I'm not talking pizza. Also, interesting things to see in the city and the nearby vicinity. Any special foods to try? And I'm not talking DATY. Hopefully this will get your noses out of the dictionary, and back to where you prefer it to be. So give me what you got, guys. Thanks.
KingAmongKings
05-15-16, 19:21
Steven you bring up a good point. I had heard that you can get a private chef to come to your place and cook meals for you for pretty cheap. Anybody have any contacts of private chefs? I would definitely be interested if so. Thanks in advance. Also, in terms of delivery, can we use apps like seamless, eat24, grubhub, etc down there or does Colombia have their own food delivery type app.
I be RTFF Wayback many pages several times and I'm coming in a week, for first time in Medellin but not Colombia, with Spanish skills. Some of the information is good and some a bit old. I've seen the map with all the Casas, for the daytime. I am looking for some current is intelligence on the city please. Especially good clubs, or take out or delivery in the evenings, and I'm not talking pizza. Also, interesting things to see in the city and the nearby vicinity. Any special foods to try? And I'm not talking DATY. Hopefully this will get your noses out of the dictionary, and back to where you prefer it to be. So give me what you got, guys. Thanks.
Daniel Martin
05-15-16, 20:37
Yesterday was my first day in MDE. I just took a walk around the Iglesia De La Veracruz and was impressed by the numbers of hookers of all kind. There was even a midget. The carrera 53 is the most impressive, full of low end bars and crowed with hookers. It was looking like a zoo. I didn't met a so weird place in the red light district of Bogota. I didn't dare get my first shot because I felt like being the only one tourist of the place. Maybe today with the help of 3 or 4 Pilsen.
Colombian media and magazines as well as local authorities are finally aware of the major problem offer (paisa hookers) and unwanted demand (gringos) are causing to.
En Elite area of town. Be aware the WORST thing you could do to a paisa is to make them feel they are loosing their beloved El Poblado Territory. I have a friend of mine who.
Is a high rank officer in Medellin and they are receiving precise orders from the mayor himself and the Antioquia Governor to get rid of both unwanted gringos and hookers.
On that area of town ASAP. I am not trying to create an argument here just be aware gringos will be taken to police stations quite frequently from now on, Hookers will.
Be removed and not licensed hotels, hostels, apartments will be closed in no time. They are designing a strategy to tackle heads on this problem. If you don't trust my information.
I invite you to see the news within the next 2 weeks. The gringo back yard in LLeras is about to get to an end.
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Hey guys,
I'll be heading down to Medellin in a few weeks.
Can anyone happen to have the contact info of Olga? (The masseuse that worked at Mansion).
Even though she's up there in age, she gave me some of the best head ever.
Damn, now all the Centro casas are going to be more crowded than usual. It's probably for the best, things will return to normal once the over the top culturally insensitive crew who cause these problems go away for a while.
Colombian media and magazines as well as local authorities are finally aware of the major problem offer (paisa hookers) and unwanted demand (gringos) are causing to.
En Elite area of town. Be aware the WORST thing you could do to a paisa is to make them feel they are loosing their beloved El Poblado Territory. I have a friend of mine who.
Is a high rank officer in Medellin and they are receiving precise orders from the mayor himself and the Antioquia Governor to get rid of both unwanted gringos and hookers.
On that area of town ASAP. I am not trying to create an argument here just be aware gringos will be taken to police stations quite frequently from now on, Hookers will...
MedellinGringo
05-16-16, 05:28
Colombian media and magazines as well as local authorities are finally aware of the major problem offer (paisa hookers) and unwanted demand (gringos) are causing to.
En Elite area of town. Be aware the WORST thing you could do to a paisa is to make them feel they are loosing their beloved El Poblado Territory. I have a friend of mine who.
Is a high rank officer in Medellin and they are receiving precise orders from the mayor himself and the Antioquia Governor to get rid of both unwanted gringos and hookers.
On that area of town ASAP. I am not trying to create an argument here just be aware gringos will be taken to police stations quite frequently from now on, Hookers will.
Be removed and not licensed hotels, hostels, apartments will be closed in no time. They are designing a strategy to tackle heads on this problem. If you don't trust my information.
I invite you to see the news within the next 2 weeks. The gringo back yard in LLeras is about to get to an end.
On what grounds will gringos be detained by the police?
Advantageous
05-16-16, 05:48
Steven you bring up a good point. I had heard that you can get a private chef to come to your place and cook meals for you for pretty cheap. Anybody have any contacts of private chefs? I would definitely be interested if so. Thanks in advance. Also, in terms of delivery, can we use apps like seamless, eat24, grubhub, etc down there or does Colombia have their own food delivery type app.No private chef recs (I enjoy a nice hotel, but I'm still not in my room enough to merit a private chef), but plenty of places deliver in MDE -- if you don't know the website for what you want off the top of your head, you'll have to hearken back to 15+ years ago and use the deliveries insert in the yellow pages; if you don't speak enough Spanish to order delivery to your place, hopefully you'll have a doorman / concierge / front desk clerk that can help you figure that out. If you have none of those things, you should probably just go wander aimlessly for your food, as that is what you're prepared for (you in the general sense, not you personally).
Hey guys,
I'll be heading down to Medellin in a few weeks.
Can anyone happen to have the contact info of Olga? (The masseuse that worked at Mansion).
Even though she's up there in age, she gave me some of the best head ever.Her business card reads [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]. Hope this helps. Headed to MDE in a week, probably should try more than just a massage from her.
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Colombian media and magazines as well as local authorities are finally aware of the major problem offer (paisa hookers) and unwanted demand (gringos) are causing to.
En Elite area of town. Be aware the WORST thing you could do to a paisa is to make them feel they are loosing their beloved El Poblado Territory. I have a friend of mine who.
Is a high rank officer in Medellin and they are receiving precise orders from the mayor himself and the Antioquia Governor to get rid of both unwanted gringos and hookers.
On that area of town ASAP. I am not trying to create an argument here just be aware gringos will be taken to police stations quite frequently from now on, Hookers will.
Be removed and not licensed hotels, hostels, apartments will be closed in no time. They are designing a strategy to tackle heads on this problem. If you don't trust my information.
I invite you to see the news within the next 2 weeks. The gringo back yard in LLeras is about to get to an end.
So gringos are going to be taken to police stations. Sounds highly unlikely that the police are going to waste their time picking up gringos from the most affluent part of town and taking them to police stations. So how are the police going to identify who is a gringo and who isn't. So anybody with blond hair and blue eyes is going to be picked up or an older man speaking to a young woman.
Since very few people in Medellin speak English let alone the police will they have an English speaking task force to handle the detention of gringos. Perhaps your high level friend can shed some light on this which you could share.
Charm City Dave
05-16-16, 16:23
Colombian media and magazines as well as local authorities are finally aware of the major problem offer (paisa hookers) and unwanted demand (gringos) are causing to.
En Elite area of town. Be aware the WORST thing you could do to a paisa is to make them feel they are loosing their beloved El Poblado Territory. I have a friend of mine who.
Is a high rank officer in Medellin and they are receiving precise orders from the mayor himself and the Antioquia Governor to get rid of both unwanted gringos and hookers.
On that area of town ASAP. I am not trying to create an argument here just be aware gringos will be taken to police stations quite frequently from now on, Hookers will.
Be removed and not licensed hotels, hostels, apartments will be closed in no time. They are designing a strategy to tackle heads on this problem. If you don't trust my information.
I invite you to see the news within the next 2 weeks. The gringo back yard in LLeras is about to get to an end.
I am very sure they have been 'aware' of this for some time LOL. Even in Colombia I would think the police need some type of probable cause. Is this someone frustrated by the price inflation gringos invariably bring trying to discourage visitors? Dunno but I'm not loosing any sleep about this until I see some independent reports, perhaps a link to one of those news outlets apparently full of stories about this initiative.
I am very sure they have been 'aware' of this for some time LOL. Even in Columbia I would think the police need some type of probable cause. Is this someone frustrated by the price inflation gingos invariably bring trying to discourage visitors? Dunno but I'm not loosing any sleep about this until I see some independent reports, perhaps a link to one of those news outlets apparently full of stories about this initiative.Everyone has been aware, but there is a new mayor and there has been changes already. 2-3 months ago the police started shooing people away in parque lleras if they are seen drinking (on some nights). There are more checkpoints where the police stop people going by. Someone I know was stopped for smoking a joint (which he finished), told they had it on camera. The original posters assessment of what is going to change in lleras may be off, but I do not doubt more change is afoot.
You call people from Spain hispanics? What a stupid remark! You are embarrassing yourself. In the USA, if you say to people from Spain they are hispanics, they will get angry at you, just like you say to irish people from Ireland Ireland is a part of Great Britain. From your remark, I know you are not an American because almost every American knows pure spanish people from Spain are not hispanics. Hold yourself to see how American punters react to your remark.From the Merriam Webster Dictionary.
Full Definition of Hispanic.
1: of or relating to the people, speech, or culture of Spain or of Spain and Portugal.
2: of, relating to, or being a person of Latin American descent living in the United States; especially: one of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin.
Charm City Dave
05-17-16, 03:47
Everyone has been aware, but there is a new mayor and there has been changes already. 2-3 months ago the police started shooing people away in parque lleras if they are seen drinking (on some nights). There are more checkpoints where the police stop people going by. Someone I know was stopped for smoking a joint (which he finished), told they had it on camera. The original posters assessment of what is going to change in lleras may be off, but I do not doubt more change is afoot.Thanks for the update. Be interested to hear reliable reports of impact to norte-americanos mongering in MDE. As for these reported activities, I think an increased police presence wherever we hang out is a good thing. From everything I have read (and seen) we have more to worry about from a lack of police than a police presence. Should said police (in Colombia) engage in a systematic and organized program of harassing us or worse, would of course be useful to get those reports.
Iguana Six
05-17-16, 05:21
A couple of years ago, 300 people would have been a crowd there. This last year, decriminalized weed, a good exchange rate, and the opening of inexpensive hostels has filled the place with lots of young tourists I call "sandal-istas. " They wear sandals, smell of patchouli, walk around calle 10 with their backpacks and shorts, and sometimes where their hair in dreadlocks. They don't stay in high end, or even mid-grade hotels, frequent the better restaurants, or spend very much money, but they have fueled the growth of the restaurants and clubs into the adjoining neighborhoods.
One night, I looked from the balcony of a 2nd floor bar and counted at least 37 cops trying to manage the menagerie in the park. That's a lot of overtime.
I circled the park that night, several times and spotted many dubious providers.
I don't see what the attraction is anymore.
Thanks for the update. Be interested to hear reliable reports of impact to norte-americanos mongering in MDE. As for these reported activities, I think an increased police presence wherever we hang out is a good thing. From everything I have read (and seen) we have more to worry about from a lack of police than a police presence. Should said police (in Colombia) engage in a systematic and organized program of harassing us or worse, would of course be useful to get those reports.I am a frequent visitor to Medellin, and there has been no impact on me. Personally, I wish the police would crack down a little more on the people (almost always visitors) who get drunk and are belligerent and / or disrespectful to the local people. The only contact I have had with the police is when I ask for assistance, usually directions. They have always been very courteous and helpful.
I call pure BS on the post by ColBoxer. Sounds to me like his name should be Barbara Boxer. I will be there when his two-week time frame expires; and if I am at the police station, I will ask if they have public internet access so I can report on what happened. I don't think I will have anything to report.
Advantageous
05-17-16, 15:50
A couple of years ago, 300 people would have been a crowd there. This last year, decriminalized weed, a good exchange rate, and the opening of inexpensive hostels has filled the place with lots of young tourists I call "sandal-istas. " They wear sandals, smell of patchouli, walk around calle 10 with their backpacks and shorts, and sometimes where their hair in dreadlocks. They don't stay in high end, or even mid-grade hotels, frequent the better restaurants, or spend very much money, but they have fueled the growth of the restaurants and clubs into the adjoining neighborhoods.
One night, I looked from the balcony of a 2nd floor bar and counted at least 37 cops trying to manage the menagerie in the park. That's a lot of overtime.
I circled the park that night, several times and spotted many dubious providers.
I don't see what the attraction is anymore.LOL, you just described backpackers, so feel free to call them that so people have a more universal understanding of what you're talking about. Backpackers are going to show up in any culturally intriguing region that is inexpensive, as that's kind of their thing. Have no fear that an increase of kum-ba-ya gatherings will be the downfall of Parque Lleras, and that the area will eventually acclimate to the increased daytime population; it's still attractive, just to a newer, younger subset of people. So long as the place doesn't become Kuta in Bali in terms of shops and restaurants corralling a sea of humanity, it'll be fine.
I personally don't refer to people from Spain as "Hispanic". But I do refer to Irish people as being from Ireland! And the only portion of the Emerald Isle that is part of the United Kingdom is Northern Ireland. Now, if you want to see somebody get angry, then tell an Irishman that he's British and a subject of the Queen and see what kind of reaction you get LOLOLOLOL!Absolutely. Once I traveled with a couple of friends and one of my friends chatted with an Irishman from Ireland. Unfortunely my friend didn't know Ireland is an independent country and said to that Irishman so you are a English. That Irish guy was so angry and wanted to beat up my friend but was stopped by his friends fortunately. You are right. LOL.
Eszpresszo
05-17-16, 18:31
You would think you would know how to spell the country of Colombia by now.Another pointless and snarky post, Old Parr. We need to put an avatar under your name. A troll lurking under a bridge waiting to pop out at the first chance. Minor lapses of spelling are hardly worth calling people out on, especially since the SPELLCHECK feature here on ISF frequently sabotages attempts at proper spelling and pronunciation. Not to mention the preview feature is really lousy and makes it hard to proof read.
Seriously, do something productive, and post a current trip report. All you will accomplish with snarky one-liners is make enemies and be put on ignore. I've already got so many people on ignore here, every thread post is redacted.
Someone who is interested in coming to the country of Colombia should at the very least learn how to spell the name of the country. This is a given Queenexpresszo. Even the illiterates who hangout in the Juan Valdez coffee shop know how to spell the name of the country and that is saying something.
How do people expect to navigate and carry on conversations when they cannot spell the country of Colombia? Worse yet is when you have people who have actually been to the country and still do not know the correct spelling of the name.
Your visits to the City of Medellin and the country of Colombia will be much more enjoyable if you take the time to learn some cultural things about the country, some basic conversational language, and do some due diligence instead of relying on being spoon fed information.
Enjoy your travels and be safe.
C Jack Sparrow
05-17-16, 21:01
After long time search, chatting etc. I came up with with a report 14 of May, considering Perfect Ten; fitness or fashion models. Or simply supersexi prepagos and I thought that this was the place.
To start a discussion.
Then I read 3 pages of topic about the definition about the term Hispanic.
And that from members that called me a crazy guy etc.
I stick to the subject.
You can ignore my posts, or say they are worthless.
But discussing, very boring by the way, definition of a word.
Why did not Admin simply erase the the whole discussion or moved it to another thread.
I can to find Perfect 10 Babes; according to one guy, you can find such even at Iglesia Veracruz, but you have to walk many kilometers. I have had a Perfect 10 at the casa Estambul. A 19 yo black thin girl, with D/E-cups, natural and firm.
Price was like 55+15 for BBBJ.
The girls that are elegant simply can charge 10 times more, but then can't get more overall attractive.
Economics. We are not rich men on this forum. It can be god to have the experience from both the most elegant girls, and equally attractive, but paying a fraction. And becoming her novio. Maybe doing her friends?
This sort of stuff we should discuss, give each other info. , as the girls do on their side.
I think we have a good opportunity to lower the standard prices set. At Energy, New life, Paisasdivinas. Unemployment is rising. China is slowing down and then all of the export-oriented countries in Latinamerica. This is not a short recession. China are in a phase where they lower their enormous consumption of raw materials and imports of agricultural products.
To a new phase, focusing on knowledge. China will simply buy a lot less of what Brazil, Argentina, Colombia export. At the same time many girls enter the labor market, that simply have no room for all of them. Prepagos of all sorts are increasing in number, western 1st world countries have a light but long recession at home, postponing our trips.
Lower prices, or more service for the same money. 2009 Energy costed 90 k COP. Then it's up to 140 k (120 k according to another source) COP, and with one ejaculation, which was never an issue in 2009. That is a rise with 55% and regulation of one ejaculation. The line-up has sometimes been that of a El Centro casa.
Negotiate down the prices. Taxi, restaurant, hotels, have a much lower inflation, and they are much more likely to have promotions campaigns.
Backpackers that live on $US10-30 a day does not increase demand at all.
(The guys discussing Hispanics, seem to have forgotten that "creole" plays a big part in self-definition. A Spanish could man loose his status if marrying a girl not born in Spain, even if she was Caucasian. The Spaniards had as a policy to make the colonies an extension of the European Spain. Creole is the basis for the definition Hispanic, but it is simply not used anymore.).
C Jack Sparrow
05-17-16, 21:13
Someone who is interested in coming to the country of Colombia should at the very least learn how to spell the name of the country. This is a given Queenexpresszo. Even the illiterates who hangout in the Juan Valdez coffee shop know how to spell the name of the country and that is saying something.
How do people expect to navigate and carry on conversations when they cannot spell the country of Colombia? Worse yet is when you have people who have actually been to the country and still do not know the correct spelling of the name.
Your visits to the City of Medellin and the country of Colombia will be much more enjoyable if you take the time to learn some cultural things about the country, some basic conversational language, and do some due diligence instead of relying on being spoon fed information.
Enjoy your travels and be safe.With little effort, you gain a lot.
Attending an intensive Spanish course is also a good thing. You earn it back 10 fold.
Charm City Dave
05-18-16, 00:09
How do people expect to navigate and carry on conversations when they cannot spell the country of Colombia? Worse yet is when you have people who have actually been to the country and still do not know the correct spelling of the name.
.I know how to spell Colombia, it was a typo. I lived in Columbia Maryland for 15 years and by habit typed it that way. I may very well do it again. How fortunate everyone in this forum is to have you here to pounce on just such an occurrence.
Hi comrades,
I am flying to Medellin beginning of June, this is my first mongering trip to Medellin / Colombia and my 20+ mongering trip in general (worldwide).
Going through this forum has made many things clear to me, I still have 2 questions that have not been answered clear enough for me.
I've been learning Spanish since a month to be able to have a very basic conversation. I've been going through TripAdvisor as well to know more about the country.
I like to Party hard at strip clubs, bars and clubs. So drinking alcohol is always putting a person into some risks and as I am traveling alone, I want to make this trip as.
Safe as possible, therefor I have the following questions:
Lodging:
I prefer Apartments to Hotels and haven't booked anything yet. I guess Poblado or Lleras should be a good choice for me safety wise. On the other hand I've been.
Reading here that some Apartment owners charge extra for visitors and ID is required. What is your experience? Where could I get a safe apartment but wouldn't.
Have restrictions getting one or more visitor?
Taxi Drivers / Chica Guides:
I've read on Matts list about some English speaking taxi Drivers such as Juan Carlos, Bucky, Jaime etc. Are the tel numbers still valid? Has someone used them recently?
Thank you very much, I've been enjoying reading the forum and looking forward having a great time in Colombia.
Easyease
I like to Party hard at strip clubs, bars and clubs. So drinking alcohol is always putting a person into some risks and as I am traveling alone, I want to make this trip as.
Safe as possible, therefor I have the following questions:
Lodging:
I prefer Apartments to Hotels and haven't booked anything yet. I guess Poblado or Lleras should be a good choice for me safety wise. On the other hand I've been.
Reading here that some Apartment owners charge extra for visitors and ID is required. What is your experience? Where could I get a safe apartment but wouldn't.
Have restrictions getting one or more visitor?Being that you say you like to party hard, for your own safety, I think you should stay in an apartment with a security person who checks ID's and ensures the chicas don't leave with all your stuff while you are passed out. But if you are determined to take the risk, check out First American Realty in Medellin (do an internet search). They have some apartments that do not have a doorman. The Poblado Suites and the Oasis del Poblado are two that I know of. They are both in Poblado, about six blocks from Parque Lleras. BTW, Parque Lleras is located in Poblado, not a separate area.
Eszpresszo
05-18-16, 14:29
Your visits to the City of Medellin and the country of Colombia will be much more enjoyable if you take the time to learn some cultural things about the country, some basic conversational language, and do some due diligence instead of relying on being spoon fed information..Why don't you actually make a visit to the City of Medellin and the country of Colombia and post a report about, OldFart. I can't recall the last time you even put up a trip report. Have you ever actually been there in recent history? I have my doubts. Internet forums are rife with people living fake lives and bullshit stories. I think you are one of them. Honestly, your anger over something as simple as a routine typo, (and yes there is a city called Columbia, Md, outside of the District of Columbia. I have a longtime friend who lives there) suggests a bit of resentment, perhaps envy because you haven't been able to do it. So, come on and put your money where your mouth is. Post a trip report. Do you really believe 100% accuracy in spelling is crucial to enjoying sex with prostitutes? As Charm City Dave pointed out, you really need to get a life.
Advantageous
05-18-16, 18:22
Why don't you actually make a visit to the City of Medellin and the country of Colombia and post a report about, OldFart. I can't recall the last time you even put up a trip report. Have you ever actually been there in recent history? I have my doubts. Internet forums are rife with people living fake lives and bullshit stories. I think you are one of them. Honestly, your anger over something as simple as a routine typo, (and yes there is a city called Columbia, Md, outside of the District of Columbia. I have a longtime friend who lives there) suggests a bit of resentment, perhaps envy because you haven't been able to do it. So, come on and put your money where your mouth is. Post a trip report. Do you really believe 100% accuracy in spelling is crucial to enjoying sex with prostitutes? As Charm City Dave pointed out, you really need to get a life.Way to complain about someone adding nothing to the board while simultaneously adding nothing to the board.
Taxi Drivers / Chica Guides:
I've read on Matts list about some English speaking taxi Drivers such as Juan Carlos, Bucky, Jaime etc. Are the tel numbers still valid? Has someone used them recently?
Thank you very much, I've been enjoying reading the forum and looking forward having a great time in Colombia.A few visits ago in November, I went through a great deal of those numbers to find they either didn't work, or the guides were booked out days beforehand. As such, I can't speak of the efficacy of the numbers, but definitely call before you go if you try. Personally I found using Uber and having the casa map downloaded on my phone worked wonders; there's a service called UberEnglish that's about the same (inexpensive) price as UberBlack in Colombia; out of roughly 20 uses I found one dud who didn't speak English and was an UberBlack driver confused with the pickup, but I spoke enough Spanish to deal anyway.
While I speak crappy-yet-intelligible Spanish, I find it easier to use UberEnglish because I can build rapport easier in English, and it's a great service; once I found that my ATM card had stopped supporting Colombian withdrawals after I was already leaving the airport (Uber charges as an American processor, so it doesn't necessarily process as a foreign transaction), and my driver went to several shopping centers with me and helped me figure out what was up with my card and how I might be able to moneygram myself in the meantime. Definitely give it a thought, especially when you find yourself going to places you've haven't been (Uber lets you type the address in and shows the driver on the GPS, and any place too difficult to find on address alone has had its identifying characteristics pointed out somewhere in the forum).
If you would read the postings you would see I live in Santa Marta, and previously lived in Cartagena. I actually have residency here, and was part of the original board members who posted on the Colombian forum as far back as the early 90's. I spend my time mostly in the coastal areas because I enjoy the heat and the ocean. I make it to Medellin approximately every other month, as I also spend quite a bit of my time in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico where I also maintain a home in addition to making frequent trips to the beautiful island of Aruba. I am a regular participate in marlin, sailfish, and yellow fin tuna fishing tournaments so you can be rest assured I am always on the go to somewhere in the this world.
I also strongly suggest you checkout the thread of Urbanwildlife in Colombia as you will find all the information you need to know about the Cartagena and Santa Marta areas. I am also open to any questions you may have about Medellin, but by reading the postings you have all the information you will need to know. Things do not change that much. Because I realize you have a reading comprehension problem, I will provide you the link to it, as the forum index is probably a challenge for you to navigate.
Continue to have fun , and if I can be of help to you just let me know. I just do not like being asked questions that can be found by doing your own due diligence here on the forum.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3001-UrbanWildlife-in-Colombia
Being that you say you like to party hard, for your own safety, I think you should stay in an apartment with a security person who checks ID's and ensures the chicas don't leave with all your stuff while you are passed out. But if you are determined to take the risk, check out First American Realty in Medellin (do an internet search). They have some apartments that do not have a doorman. The Poblado Suites and the Oasis del Poblado are two that I know of. They are both in Poblado, about six blocks from Parque Lleras. BTW, Parque Lleras is located in Poblado, not a separate area.Thanks FunLuvr, the information about first American is great information. I understand your safety concerns about drinking getting wasted and waking up next day in an empty apartment, that's why I am asking here about the best solution without being in the situation with a Paisa at midnight in front of the apartment and not getting in because she doesn't have an ID with her.
Regards,
Easyease
Way to complain about someone adding nothing to the board while simultaneously adding nothing to the board.
A few visits ago in November, I went through a great deal of those numbers to find they either didn't work, or the guides were booked out days beforehand. As such, I can't speak of the efficacy of the numbers, but definitely call before you go if you try. Personally I found using Uber and having the casa map downloaded on my phone worked wonders; there's a service called UberEnglish that's about the same (inexpensive) price as UberBlack in Colombia; out of roughly 20 uses I found one dud who didn't speak English and was an UberBlack driver confused with the pickup, but I spoke enough Spanish to deal anyway.
While I speak crappy-yet-intelligible <SNIP> d on address alone has had its identifying characteristics pointed out somewhere in the forum).Thanks Advantageous, I am asking about the drivers not only for transportation, but also for showing me around, some translation perhaps. Etc.
I will definitely use your recommendation about UBER, thank you.
Easyease
El Patron24
05-18-16, 23:26
Being that you say you like to party hard, for your own safety, I think you should stay in an apartment with a security person who checks ID's and ensures the chicas don't leave with all your stuff while you are passed out. But if you are determined to take the risk, check out First American Realty in Medellin (do an internet search). They have some apartments that do not have a doorman. The Poblado Suites and the Oasis del Poblado are two that I know of. They are both in Poblado, about six blocks from Parque Lleras. BTW, Parque Lleras is located in Poblado, not a separate area.AIRbnb has a ton of options in Medellin. I have stayed at one right in Parque Lleras. After picking up the key from the owner, you will usually never see them again until you check out. Just do some research on the places and you will be able to see if it has a doorman or if you have a private entrance.
Go to the Google Play Store or the Rotten Apple store, and get Maps.ME, it's a routable GPS navigation worldwide map. Works without internet connection, just turn on your smartphone's GPS. Then download and open Matts Medellin map with Maps.ME: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ie=UTF8&authuser=0&mid=1BXSo_yZ4e_aDRCqxrwxWU5EZm90.
Viola! You now have a working map of Medellin. Maps.Me has downloadable maps of the world. Best yet is its price: FREE!
Advantageous
05-19-16, 01:18
Thanks Advantageous, I am asking about the drivers not only for transportation, but also for showing me around, some translation perhaps. Etc.
I will definitely use your recommendation about UBER, thank you.Glad to help man; if you click with a particular UberEnglish driver (especially if they're picking you up from somewhere obvious like Fase Dos or Ejecutiva / Maracaibo and thus know what your MO is), ask if he can show you around the next evening for a negotiated rate (I'd personally offer 200 k for like 8-3, but I'm a pretty swell guy); if not, no harm done, and you can still try one of the guides listed in the forum.
Member #4394
05-19-16, 01:28
Great info. Would you please post this on the casa map thread as well? Thank you.
Go to the Google Play Store or the Rotten Apple store, and get Maps.ME, it's a routable GPS navigation worldwide map. Works without internet connection, just turn on your smartphone's GPS. Then download and open Matts Medellin map with Maps.ME: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ie=UTF8&authuser=0&mid=1BXSo_yZ4e_aDRCqxrwxWU5EZm90.
Viola! You now have a working map of Medellin. Maps.Me has downloadable maps of the world. Best yet is its price: FREE!
Okay, so, I'm planning for my upcoming trip to Medellin--which includes the usual perusing of ISG: Reports, Lists, Reports of Distinction, Photos, etc. So, I've seen all the back and forth on the safety issues, what is/isn't a gringo, the origin of the word "gringo," what is/isn't a prostitute, why CasaMedellin is asking folks (repeatedly) not to visit his hotel, the BBQs that Medellin Language Institute has/had on Sundays, being a big spender vs a thrifty spender, Pablo's grave and more.
I also took a really close look at the maps and decided that I needed more. I figured if I had the right map, I could pull it up on my iPhone and navigate as necessary without issue (of course I'll be careful where I whip out my iPhone). I decided I would create maps that not only displayed casas/massage spots, but also discos / nightclubs, restaurants and casinos. In addition, I figured it would be prudent to add in a few hospitals, malls and nearby Exito supermarkets. Finally, I figured it would be beneficial to take a close in look at Parque Lleras to show what places are where in that area. Basically, I like to know where I'm going before I get there and not be at the mercy of a taxi driver or "somebody" I ask on the street...Given the current discussion on Medellin Maps, I thought I'd bump an old post of mine with some map info that may (or may not) be of use. At least it might give any newbies to the area an idea of types of maps they can create on their own. To be clear, once I got on the ground on MDE, these maps were spot on. My wingman and I literally planned our itinerary before we left and used the addresses, times and prices associated with the mapped locations and walked right up to the different places. Hope it helps!
Thanks FunLuvr, the information about first American is great information. I understand your safety concerns about drinking getting wasted and waking up next day in an empty apartment, that's why I am asking here about the best solution without being in the situation with a Paisa at midnight in front of the apartment and not getting in because she doesn't have an ID with her.
Regards,
EasyeaseNow that I think about it, I doubt that apartment security people check ID's. I have stayed in three apartment buildings that had security guards / gate keepers / doormen, and none of them checked the ID of the ladies who visited me. Hopefully, someone else can chime in if they have more information about apartment building security.
Go to the Google Play Store or the Rotten Apple store, and get Maps.ME, it's a routable GPS navigation worldwide map. Works without internet connection, just turn on your smartphone's GPS. Then download and open Matts Medellin map with Maps.ME: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ie=UTF8&authuser=0&mid=1BXSo_yZ4e_aDRCqxrwxWU5EZm90.
Viola! You now have a working map of Medellin. Maps.Me has downloadable maps of the world. Best yet is its price: FREE!How does one open Matt's map in Maps. Me?
Given the current discussion on Medellin Maps, I thought I'd bump an old post of mi
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ociated with the mapped locations and walked right up to the different places. Hope it helps!For some reason the attached pictures can't be opened by me, either here nor in the New Pic section.
Easyease.
First off, thanks to all the informative posts, from which I learned a lot to begin my trip.
6 of us arrived at the MDE 4:40 pm and made it to our hotel in Parque Lleras by 7:00 pm. Dinner at the hotel restaurant and then at 9:00, we walk 10 min to the main square where all the bars are. We settle into seat at La Esquina, which has a great view of the park. Great people watching. Afterwards we move onto Hooters, where a server with gorgeous face gave us a list of night clubs where 'all the beautiful girls go. '.
We immediately head off to Sixteena, a 20 min cab ride away. It's on the top floor of a shopping mall and there are 5-6 other clubs on that level, all with different types of music, entry fee was COP $20,000 each, which I thought was steep. Got inside and crowd is mostly 20's, partying to Reggatone. There didn't seem to be many 'pros' or single girls in groups. They kept spraying the annoying chalky smoke which wreaked havoc on my sinuses so we left after just 1 drink.
We get in a cab and go to La Isla, a strip bar some 10 min away up on the hill. COP $10,000 cover each, and we're inside this stadium-like facility with the most seasoned pros I've seen in awhile, stillettos, full makeup, tattoos, 20-30's in age, and fake everything on most girls. One of the guys picked up a gal there, total pornstar look, with fake boobs, hair & makeup. Cost was COP $750,000 for her buyout and all night fee, payable to the club upon leaving, not to the girl. I thought it was total extortion, but my buddy was drunk and fully committed.
The next morning, he said she was good at her job and would massage and / or caress him between sessions. He had 2 pops that night and 1 in the morning. We didn't see him till 1:00 the next day when we arranged a tour of the city.
(to be continued).
The next day, we rented a van to show us some sights. We visited:
- Botero Gardens downtown.
- Took a Metrocable ride.
- Stopped in Pueblito Paisa for late lunch.
That night, we had dinner at Bar Triada, best food we had the whole time. Steaks, grilled chicken, sauteed sea bass, apps, dessert, 3 bottles of Johnny Walker Black, beers, for 7 came out to US $230. Afterwards, we went upstairs to the open air lounge, Woka. What a cool place. Music not too loud that we could not hear ourselves talk. There was a table of 'pros' that were giving us the side eye, but in the end, we left after finishing our 4th bottle of JW Black.
I went home with a paisa I met, Catalina, girl next door type. She appreciated my Spanish, which is not great, but understandable. As the night went on, she became more and more carinoso -- caressing my arms, hands, running her fingers through my hair. We get back in the room and neither of us had a condom. She says, "I want to see you shoot leche all over the room." So who am I to argue? We take a quick show, lathering each other up and cleaning each other off, but since she only likes cold showers and I prefer warm to hot, she finished rinsing me off and shooed me out of the shower, so she could finish hers with cold water. I thought that was sweet of her.
We get the bed naked and after some serious DFK, DATY, lots of eye contact, she gives me BBBJ, full treatment with eye contact, spitting, balls, shaft to face slapping, jerk and suck. Unfortunately, those JWBlacks were not letting little Johnny to blow his load, so I had to self jerk. After about 15 min of this, she had to lay me on my back, suck as I jerked until I was close, then she took over the pile driving duties. My 1st burst damn near hit the ceiling and on the way down, nipped her cheek and then her breast. I look up and start to giggle, as did she, when the 2nd blast, thanks to her laughing and pointing little Johnny's head at the headboard, fired the 2nd shot that hit me on the forehead and chin. Splat!
Now we're both laughing hard. She had her eyes wide open when I coming, curiously excited as a 5 year old opening toys for Christmas. She continued to stroke my head afterwards, despite my protestations of nearly unbearable sensitivity, she was loving the aftermath. Every stroke generated a full body tremor. It felt nice until about the 10 stroke when it hurt to the touch. Sometimes too much of a good thing is just too much.
She stroked lightly on my face and eyelids till I went to the land of dreams and stayed with me till 5:30 am, slept as quiet as a mouse, kept pulling my arms and legs around her while we slept. Said she had to be at school at 6:30 to attend English speaking class. As she showered, I slipped US $200 in her purse.
My buddies took home some girls from Fase II, including bar fine, hotel fine, cab fare, it was COP $400,000. They both did the backdoor service, too.
The next day, our flight was at 3:00 so we had our driver stop at Loutron at noon, the exact time they're open. Only 6-8 girls were there, 3 of us picked partners, the other 3 sat around and waited. Prices quoted was COP $230,000 for 30 min, COP $260,000 for 60 min. I think we were ripped here, too. Do all gringos who travel in packs get higher prices? Ugh.
Natalia had a gorgeous face, a bit like the model Miranda Kerr, fake boobs and a crazy plump but that you could set some drinks on. We were all sure it was fake, but the buddy who picked her said it felt and moved like it was real. She looked like a 10++, if you don't mind fake boobs.
The other 2 guys weren't so crazy about the girls they chose after their close came off. Girls seemed mechanical, butt and boobs felt hard as bricks. They both stopped the service in 15 min and left the room.
Thereafter, we caught the plane ride to Cartagena.
All in all, the takeaways from our 1st trip to Medellin are:
- weather was amazing, high 60's-80's.
- people are very friendly, if you smile, they will smile back.
- we all felt very safe, but then again, we rarely ventured out of Parque Lleras.
- cabbies didn't seem as dangerous as what I've read on the web, we took a few and felt same.
- not sure we went to the right places, but they veterans among us seemed to think Buenos Aires of 5 years ago and present day Panama has better talent level than Medellin.
I certainly would go back since I was able to meet someone local. Loved the year round good weather. Not sure if I would have any takers from my cohort.
Iguana Six
05-20-16, 00:01
Dollar is dropping. Friend got 2,900 on Monday, I was happy to get 2,855, as it was 2,840 at the 4 other places I went to.
I still had 300 k from a trip a few months ago, purchased at a rate of 3,200. Oh, how I will miss what those fallen martyrs and what they got for me since getting in yesterday.
40 k got me a cab from the airport departure deck to my hotel.
8 k got me a ride from parque poblado to NL.
77 k got me a soda and an amazing hour with the almost-MILF blonde with the great tan. NL was gringo free, undergoing major renovations, and rejuvinated with great new talent. Hanging around after the session, I was amazed by the talent. There was no propina begging, but almost-MILF was incredible, so I gave her the change from my 100 k.
10 k got me 2 huge pieces of chicken, 2 tiny baked potatoes, 2 arepas, honey and ketchup packets, and 1. 5 liter of soda onthe central avenue to go.
8 k got me back to my hotel uphill of parque lleras.
25 k got me an excellent mani-pedicure.
8 k got me back from parque poblado to cra 43/ calle 56, and walked up the hill to NL.
85 k got me a Postobon, a whisky for chica, and another memorable hour with the golden brown blonde. No propina, just brought her some things victoria secret.
8 k got me a nice lunch from the (literal hole-in-the-wall) lunch spot next to NL's blue door.
8 k got me back my hotel.
300 K cop. I salute you. Not since the Battle of Thermapolae has 300 of anything done so much. So much value for just $95 dollars!
Dollar is dropping. Friend got 2,900 on Monday, I was happy to get 2,855, as it was 2,840 at the 4 other places I went to.
I still had 300 k from a trip a few months ago, purchased at a rate of 3,200. Oh, how I will miss what those fallen martyrs and what they got for me since getting in yesterday.
40 k got me a cab from the airport departure deck to my hotel.
8 k got me a ride from parque poblado to NL.
77 k got me a soda and an amazing hour with the almost-MILF blonde with the great tan. NL was gringo free, undergoing major renovations, and rejuvinated with great new talent. Hanging around after the session, I was amazed by the talent. There was no propina begging, but almost-MILF was incredible, so I gave her the change from my 100 k.
10 k got me 2 huge pieces of chicken, 2 tiny baked potatoes, 2 arepas, honey and ketchup packets, and 1. 5 liter of soda onthe central avenue to go.Haha! Well played amigo, well played!
Member #4398
05-21-16, 00:25
Nice job Iguanasix,
This would I be how I would I have spent the 300 k being the cheap guy that I am:
8 k on white bus at airport instead of 40 k taxi for more pussy later.
2 k bus to Parque Lleras instead of taxi.
77 k for soda and 1 hour at new life, we are even here.
10 k for the food we are even again.
0 k waking and burn some calories to that hotel uphill and save 7 k on taxi.
0 k on manicure and pedicure. I cut my nails for free and save 25 k more pussy later.
2 k back to NL in public buseta from Parque Poblado to centro instead of 8 k taxi.
85 k for the postobon, wishy for chica an 1 hour with chica we are even here.
8 k lunch we are even here.
2 k bus or train back to hotel and some walking to burn more calories instead of 8 k taxi.
Total spent 194 k. So I still have 106 k left from the 300 k left that could be good for two nice 45 min sessions at NL and a 10 k lunch and 2 k beer or soda plus 2 k bus or train to get back to hotel with a nice happy face. LOL.
Cerebro
Dollar is dropping. Friend got 2,900 on Monday, I was happy to get 2,855, as it was 2,840 at the 4 other places I went to.
I still had 300 k from a trip a few months ago, purchased at a rate of 3,200. Oh, how I will miss what those fallen martyrs and what they got for me since getting in yesterday.
40 k got me a cab from the airport departure deck to my hotel.
8 k got me a ride from parque poblado to NL.
77 k got me a soda and an amazing hour with the almost-MILF blonde with the great tan. NL was gringo free, undergoing major renovations, and rejuvinated with great new talent. Hanging around after the session, I was amazed by the talent. There was no propina begging, but almost-MILF was incredible, so I gave her the change from my 100 k...
Nice job Iguanasix,
This would I be how I would I have spent the 300 k being the cheap guy that I am:
8 k on white bus at airport instead of 40 k taxi for more pussy later.
2 k bus to Parque Lleras instead of taxi.
77 k for soda and 1 hour at new life, we are even here.
10 k for the food we are even again.
0 k waking and burn some calories to that hotel uphill and save 7 k on taxi.
0 k on manicure and pedicure. I cut my nails for free and save 25 k more pussy later.
2 k back to NL in public buseta from Parque Poblado to centro instead of 8 k taxi...Your not really a cheap guy at all!
I would take all the public transportation options you listed but would rent a room at the Premier Plaza Hotel adjacent to Botero Plaza for 30 K for the day and pull four girls from the surrounding streets at an average of 35 K each for an expenditure of 170 K not including meals / drinks at say 10 K from local places and another 10 K for transport. For a total of 190 K.
There are so many options available in Medellin from the street scene, to the casa's, to the upper end places and all with great value however you do it. That's what so nice about Medellin compared to other places in the world. However Spanish speaking skills are a must to go the lower budget route in Medellin.
Nice post bro. In your opinion. Which did you prefer Medellin or Cartagena?
The next day, we rented a van to show us some sights. We visited:
- Botero Gardens downtown.
- Took a Metrocable ride.
- Stopped in Pueblito Paisa for late lunch.
That night, we had dinner at Bar Triada, best food we had the whole time. Steaks, grilled chicken, sauteed sea bass, apps, dessert, 3 bottles of Johnny Walker Black, beers, for 7 came out to US $230. Afterwards, we went upstairs to the open air lounge, Woka. What a cool place. Music not too loud that we could not hear ourselves talk. There was a table of 'pros' that were giving us the side eye, but in the end, we left after finishing our 4th bottle of JW Black.
I went home with a paisa I met, Catalina, girl next door type. She appreciated my Spanish, which is not great, but understandable. As the night went on, she became more and more carinoso -- caressing my arms, hands, running her fingers through my hair...
Nice post bro. In your opinion. Which did you prefer Medellin or Cartagena?Hands down, Medellin because of the year round mild weather. When we were in Cartagena, I was so sweaty and sticky day and night that I didn't want anyone to touch me, so when a girl tried to show some affection by caressing my arm or neck, I made her stop, at least until I could take a shower in an air conditioned bathroom and bedroom.
As for 'ease of use' Cartagena is smaller with fewer choices so it makes it easy to monger there, just head off to Clock Tower after 11 or 12 and you will see lots of options by just sitting in the open area and sidewalk cafes.
Sounds good. I'm going to do 4 nights in Cartagena, and then 7 nights in Medellin!
Hands down, Medellin because of the year round mild weather. When we were in Cartagena, I was so sweaty and sticky day and night that I didn't want anyone to touch me, so when a girl tried to show some affection by caressing my arm or neck, I made her stop, at least until I could take a shower in an air conditioned bathroom and bedroom.
As for 'ease of use' Cartagena is smaller with fewer choices so it makes it easy to monger there, just head off to Clock Tower after 11 or 12 and you will see lots of options by just sitting in the open area and sidewalk cafes.
Hi fellow mongers,
I was going through the last +50 posts regarding carrying an ID in Medellin. For example in Kiev, if you go on the streets without ID you are screwed by the police. In Thailand and Germany I carry only a copy of my Passport.
I hate to carry my Passport with me because of loosing it. How do you handle this?
Regards,
Easyease
Iguana Six
05-23-16, 18:30
I took the bus from the airport to central on my last trip, and it was very convenient as it left me right behind my hotel, the Nutibara. But after commuting to airport parking, taking the shuttle to the gate, TSA (which should stand for Too Stupid to work for Arby's - "I caught a terrorist!" said no TSA worker ever.), a 3. 5 hour flight, and then the maddening slow pace people disembark from pl.
Anes, I want my vacation to start immediately, and I'm not going waste time waiting for and changing buses to get Poblado.
Also, I wasn't going to walk from NL to Poblado. Not for me. I have taken the metro to Poblado station and walked heart attack hill, pausing to get a nice ice cream cone for 1,000 cop before reaching Parque Poblado. Nice, on a hot day.
The Metro also has two stops in the Prado area that are a kilometer away from a cluster of day time, local-oriented casas. The neighborhood is kinda sketchy, so I would not recommed it, to non Spanish speakers.
The idea of picking up talent off the street seems dicey. You have no recourse if she goes rogue on you, and she has no incentive. If she doesn't think she will ever see you again. To behave. Even established providers, like the famous Kelly, reacted to a provocation by a client with an attack to his eye with a cologne bottle, and all she lost was her Mansion priviledges,; not a real deterrent because she has been so independent for so long.
I would like to know more about the Premium Hotel, however.
Hi fellow mongers,
I have a question regarding carrying an ID in Colombia. Do you carry your passport with you when you go out or is a copy enough. For example in Kiev it is impossible to leave without your ID or you will get problems with the cops. In Thailand and Germany I always carry only a copy of my passport. It is totally enough to have a copy (if you look legitimate and not like a junky).
How do you handle this matter?
Thank you,
Easyease
I have taken the metro to Poblado station and walked heart attack hill, pausing to get a nice ice cream cone for 1,000 cop before reaching Parque Poblado. Nice, on a hot day.
.There's buses just outside the Poblado metro station that will take you up heart attack hill and leave you off 1 block from Parque Poblado. Cost is a few cents mas or menos.
I took the bus from the airport to central on my last trip, and it was very convenient as it left me right behind my hotel, the Nutibara. But after commuting to airport parking, taking the shuttle to the gate, TSA (which should stand for Too Stupid to work for Arby's - "I caught a terrorist!" said no TSA worker ever.), a 3. 5 hour flight, and then the maddening slow pace people disembark from pl.
Anes, I want my vacation to start immediately, and I'm not going waste time waiting for and changing buses to get Poblado.
Also, I wasn't going to walk from NL to Poblado. Not for me. I have taken the metro to Poblado station and walked heart attack hill, pausing to get a nice ice cream cone for 1,000 cop before reaching Parque Poblado. Nice, on a hot day.
The Metro also has two stops in the Prado area that are a kilometer away from a cluster of day time, local-oriented casas. The neighborhood is kinda sketchy, so I would not recommed it, to non Spanish speakers.
The idea of picking up talent off the street seems dicey. You have no recourse if she goes rogue on you, and she has no incentive. If she doesn't think she will ever see you again. To behave. Even established providers, like the famous Kelly, reacted to a provocation by a client with an attack to his eye with a cologne bottle, and all she lost was her Mansion priviledges,; not a real deterrent because she has been so independent for so long.
I would like to know more about the Premium Hotel, however.This hotel is a hooker hotel with short time rooms on the lower floor and longer time rooms on the upper floors. On one trip I rented a room for a month. The pricing is around 30 K per day and they have rooms with single and double beds. The women that run the place are very helpful, check ID's of girls they suspect might be to young. Nobody speaks English so you shouldn't even consider staying there if you have no Spanish speaking skills. The place also serves as an "unofficial" police substation at night as the cops use the Internet and have coffee there.
As far as talent off the street, I have had good luck but you have to be careful and again need some Spanish speaking skills and have your guard up at all times!.
I will play devil's advocate. For some, I suppose soaking in local color whilst waiting for the airport bus to depart and make its way down from Rionegro, then making your way from the bus stop in Centro to your hotel. Cash and luggage on board. Is part of the vacation. Personally, I don't get it. For an extra US $15 to US $20, I say fuck that noise. But it's just me.
I took the bus from the airport to central on my last trip, and it was very convenient as it left me right behind my hotel, the Nutibara. But after commuting to airport parking, taking the shuttle to the gate, TSA (which should stand for Too Stupid to work for Arby's - "I caught a terrorist!" said no TSA worker ever.), a 3. 5 hour flight, and then the maddening slow pace people disembark from pl.
Anes, I want my vacation to start immediately, and I'm not going waste time waiting for and changing buses to get Poblado.
Also, I wasn't going to walk from NL to Poblado. Not for me. I have taken the metro to Poblado station and walked heart attack hill, pausing to get a nice ice cream cone for 1,000 cop before reaching Parque Poblado. Nice, on a hot day..
Carry a copy if it makes you feel better. I never recommend running around with your passport in your pocket. Secure it in your room. A driver's license or other picture ID is sufficient for banking or credit card transactions, or if you find yourself in a law enforcement checkpoint. It's inconvenient and expensive to replace a lost or stolen passport. You probably already know that last bit.
Hi fellow mongers,
I have a question regarding carrying an ID in Colombia. Do you carry your passport with you when you go out or is a copy enough. For example in Kiev it is impossible to leave without your ID or you will get problems with the cops. In Thailand and Germany I always carry only a copy of my passport. It is totally enough to have a copy (if you look legitimate and not like a junky).
How do you handle this matter?
Thank you,
Easyease
Member #4398
05-24-16, 03:04
Walking from Poblado to NL is not recommended. Too far to walk there unless you enjoy walking 3 or 4 hours and is not safe to walk from poblado there with all the traffic and non pedestrian roads. A 2 k (70 cents) buseta from poblado to centro, parque barrio or to parque Bolivar is the best way or a metro train from Poblado station to Parque berrio or Prado stop and to walk from there, 10-15 min walk. The area is sketchy as you mentioned but for me the area its sort of entertaining and I tend to enjoy my walk there with my eyes wide open, like a child going to a zoo or jungle for the first time. If you are less adventurous or lazy or scare, a taxi is best. I t.
Spanish or non Spanish speaking is okay to wonder and explore during light hours. I don't recommend anyone to be there when is dark or night time.
The heart attack hill from Poblado metro station can be avoided with the 2 k busetas outside the station that go up the hill through calle 10 and pass Poblado park and keep going up that hill towards Parque lleras.
Anes, I want my vacation to start immediately, and I'm not going waste time waiting for and changing buses to get Poblado.
Also, I wasn't going to walk from NL to Poblado. Not for me. I have taken the metro to Poblado station and walked heart attack hill, pausing to get a nice ice cream cone for 1,000 cop before reaching Parque Poblado. Nice, on a hot day.
The Metro also has two stops in the Prado area that are a kilometer away from a cluster of day time, local-oriented casas. The neighborhood is kinda sketchy, so I would not recommed it, to non Spanish speakers.
Member #4398
05-24-16, 03:36
Hi fellow mongers,
I have a question regarding carrying an ID in Colombia. Do you carry your passport with you when you go out or is a copy enough. For example in Kiev it is impossible to leave without your ID or you will get problems with the cops. In Thailand and Germany I always carry only a copy of my passport. It is totally enough to have a copy (if you look legitimate and not like a junky).
How do you handle this matter?
Thank you,
EasyeaseIt is the law to have ID with you in Colombia. It's a serious law. You could get arrested for not having an ID. A copy of passport and drivers license is acceptable by police. Make sure you copy the page with your entrance stamp if you carry a copy. I tend to carry the original with me, but some don't recommend this because if someone robs you, you will be stuck in Colombia until you resolve the problem with your embassy. Some recommend to leave your passport in the safe of your hotel. But I'm paranoiac and I take it with me because I feel that the chances of someone stealing my passport from a hotel safe are the same as me getting robbed on the street.
The police don't bother tourist in Medellin unless you are drunk acting disorderly or breaking the law. I only have gotten stopped by police in Santa Fe red-light district in Bogota as they check peple there often. I have never been stopped by police in Medellin. In Santa Fe Bogotá as soon as the police saw my American passport they let me go and just joked with me, exclaiming ah American and when I replied that I American but born in the Dominican Republic, they got a big smile and repeated the names of Dominican baseball player Samy Sosa and Bachata singers Juan Luis Guerra and Romeo.
Mile.
Iguana Six
05-24-16, 03:56
There's buses just outside the Poblado metro station that will take you up heart attack hill and leave you off 1 block from Parque Poblado. Cost is a few cents mas or menos.This interssts me. Thank you for the information. Sometimes I want the exercise of walking, sometimes the speed / convenience of a cab, and sometimes I'd like to this.
How is this bus marked? Does it also go down the hill back to the station along 10 a? Where would I catch it on the way down?
Iguana Six
05-24-16, 04:06
Hi fellow mongers,
I have a question regarding carrying an ID in Colombia. Do you carry your passport with you when you go out or is a copy enough. For example in Kiev it is impossible to leave without your ID or you will get problems with the cops. In Thailand and Germany I always carry only a copy of my passport. It is totally enough to have a copy (if you look legitimate and not like a junky).
How do you handle this matter?
Thank you,
EasyeaseIn eight years, and 25 plus trips, I have never been stopped by cops. However, I don't dress in a way that would make me stand out. How would a middle class person of my age dress? Japan has the concept of the "salaryman," and there is a local equivalent.
Even in the casas, you see them, leather shoes, dress slacks, dress shirt with no tie, open collared, sleeves folded up just once, small messanger bag. I would think that would be good camouflage for mongers of a certain age.
I carry my Global Entry card. It looks like a cedula. Or sometimes I carry a copy of my passport ID page and entry visa stamp. When I stayed in a hotel in SJO, they took my passport ID page, made a copy the size of a business card, put their hotel business card on the back and laminated it. Very cool!
Mr Enternational
05-24-16, 04:24
In eight years, and 25 plus trips, I have never been stopped by cops. However, I don't dress in a way that would make me stand out. How would a middle class person of my age dress? Japan has the concept of the "salaryman," and there is a local equivalent.
Even in the casas, you see them, leather shoes, dress slacks, dress shirt with no tie, open collared, sleeves folded up just once, small messanger bag. I would think that would be good camouflage for mongers of a certain age.Well August was my second trip to Medellin (but probably 100th to Colombia) and we were stopped going into a casa. Not by cops, but by immigration. You can search my Medellin posts in August for details. There is no camouflage for foreigners. They know you are not Colombian no matter what you wear. And being immigration, they were actively looking for foreigners. So whether you are walking around in a 3 piece suit or a string bikini, they know you are not from there.
This interssts me. Thank you for the information. Sometimes I want the exercise of walking, sometimes the speed / convenience of a cab, and sometimes I'd like to this.
How is this bus marked? Does it also go down the hill back to the station along 10 a? Where would I catch it on the way down?I never took a bus back to the metro station. Always walked it since its all downhill. But 10 a is one way going up the hill so I don't know where you'd catch it.
Iguana Six
05-24-16, 04:54
I never took a bus back to the metro station. Always walked it since its all downhill. But 10 a is one way going up the hill so I don't know where you'd catch it.Well, many major one way streets have the basic streets, then it paralel street going in the opposite direction. In this case, there is 10 and 10 A.
Well August was my second trip to Medellin (but probably 100th to Colombia) and we were stopped going into a casa. Not by cops, but by immigration. You can search my Medellin posts in August for details. There is no camouflage for foreigners. They know you are not Colombian no matter what you wear. And being immigration, they were actively looking for foreigners. So whether you are walking around in a 3 piece suit or a string bikini, they know you are not from there.So without searching all your posts, what was immigration looking for with foreigners at a casa? Did you have a copy of your Passport or other ID on you that they wanted to see?
I got stopped once at 2 in the morning at a "reten militar" a military checkpoint on Calle 10 going up the hill to Parque Lleras and showed them a photocopy of my Passport and when they asked why I didn't have the original with me I told them I didn't want it stolen and that it was in my safe deposit box and that if they wanted to see it they could come with me to my hotel. They then let me go and it's always a good idea to carry a copy of your passport I have a reduced / laminated copy along with a copy of your entry stamp as well.
El Mechanico
05-24-16, 14:58
.You can search my Medellin posts in August for details. I tried to search your posts for that report but apparently only the last 300 posts are archived. Your post history goes back to Feb of this year. Is there any way to re-post or PM me your experience with immigration?
Thanks,
El Mechanico.
HarvestBoi
05-24-16, 16:42
I just applied for a new passport and decided to spend the 40 bucks to get a passport card. My understanding is it's used by folks who go back and forth to Mexico / Canada frequently. Wondering if anybody has any experience with it as a substitute for a copy or the passport itself.
Mr Enternational
05-24-16, 19:04
Left Poblado where we got dropped off after the Pablo Escobar tour and headed to my favorite centro casa. We were 2 taxis deep. I got out not paying attention and saw 1 wingman walk in. I was about to walk in when I saw another wingman talking to someone and surrounded by a group of people. I went back to ask him what was going on. What the fuck? It was immigration right in front of the casa. And they wanted to see everyone's passport. There was also a lady with the Human Rights Division with them. And a bunch of neighbors in the street watching.
I was the only one with any type of ID so I busted out my passport card. They looked it over and said they wanted to see the document that I entered the country on. I told them thay nobody is going to carry their passport book in the street and risk it being lost. Right then they realized that the 1 wingman had escaped into the casa and sent someone in to get him.
He asked how long I had been in the country. Then he asked if I had entered in Medellin or Bogota. I told him that we were all from the USA and staying at a hotel downtown. He started keying the info that was on my ID into his phone. The wingman that they had detained gave him the card of the hotel we are staying. He called the hotel to verify everyone's passport (they make a copy when you check in).
Everything checked out and they let us go. We went upstairs to the casa and quickly picked some girls to go poke on and I took these pictures while waiting for my girl to get ready.Here is my report from August. Click on it to see the pictures.
I just applied for a new passport and decided to spend the 40 bucks to get a passport card. My understanding is it's used by folks who go back and forth to Mexico / Canada frequently. Wondering if anybody has any experience with it as a substitute for a copy or the passport itself.Yes, the passport card is for land or sea travel between the US, Canada, Mexico and Caribbean destinations (via cruise ship). You can't use it for air travel. I carry my passport card and a copy of my passport book for identification purposes. I've never been asked for ID, so I don't know how useful it is.
This interssts me. Thank you for the information. Sometimes I want the exercise of walking, sometimes the speed / convenience of a cab, and sometimes I'd like to this.
How is this bus marked? Does it also go down the hill back to the station along 10 a? Where would I catch it on the way down?It is a green bus with Metro across the front, I think at the top of the windshield. The cost is 1900 pesos. The bus route starts under the steps that lead to and from the Metro station. During the day and early evening there will be a few buses parked in that area. I don't know how late the buses operate, but I think not late. I don't know anything about the buses going down the hill to the station, haven't used them.
Here is my report from August. Click on it to see the pictures.They're looking for underaged girls from Venezuela or other countries, not gringos. That's why they came with human rights people. It happens near the border. They check everything including your I. D just in case.
I just applied for a new passport and decided to spend the 40 bucks to get a passport card. My understanding is it's used by folks who go back and forth to Mexico / Canada frequently. Wondering if anybody has any experience with it as a substitute for a copy or the passport itself.The passport card is only good for land crossings into Canada and Mexico and travel by ship to other countries. It cannot be used for air travel.
Hello guys,
I did not see response to questions below. I am in a similar situation except I do not know Spanish (will probably rely on Google translate). I plan to stay near Parque Lleras.
Is it better to stay in apartments or hotel? Do they allow local guests and do they charge for it? Please advise.
Thanks,
Lappad
Hi comrades,
I am flying to Medellin beginning of June, this is my first mongering trip to Medellin / Colombia and my 20+ mongering trip in general (worldwide).
Going through this forum has made many things clear to me, I still have 2 questions that have not been answered clear enough for me.
I've been learning Spanish since a month to be able to have a very basic conversation. I've been going through TripAdvisor as well to know more about the country.
I like to Party hard at strip clubs, bars and clubs. So drinking alcohol is always putting a person into some risks and as I am traveling alone, I want to make this trip as.
Safe as possible, therefor I have the following questions:
Lodging:
I prefer Apartments to Hotels and haven't booked anything yet. I guess Poblado or Lleras should be a good choice for me safety wise. On the other hand I've been.
El Mechanico
05-26-16, 15:29
Here is my report from August. Click on it to see the pictures.Got it, thanks. Was he asking for a copy of the Visa stamp you get when arriving?
Thanks,
El Mechanico
Hello guys,
I did not see response to questions below. I am in a similar situation except I do not know Spanish (will probably rely on Google translate). I plan to stay near Parque Lleras.
Is it better to stay in apartments or hotel? Do they allow local guests and do they charge for it? Please advise.
Thanks,
LappadIf you are resourceful and can wing it in a Latin American country, you can do an apartment. No one speaks English in Medellin. Otherwise, you might try the Mansion for a few days. The real value the Mansion provides is helping you get oriented, introducing you to some girls and casa tours.
JohnDoe333
05-26-16, 18:22
Hello guys,
I did not see response to questions below. I am in a similar situation except I do not know Spanish (will probably rely on Google translate). I plan to stay near Parque Lleras.
Is it better to stay in apartments or hotel? Do they allow local guests and do they charge for it? Please advise.
Thanks,
LappadLappad,
I think staying in a apt vs hotel comes down to personal preference as they both have their pros & cons. I just returned from Medellin and stayed in a Poblado Rental condo a block away from Parque Lleras and it was a blast. The cons I would have compared to a hotel would be: no daily cleaning, no bellman / security, and you are pretty much alone outside of the help from the landlord you rented from.
Some hotels do charge for guest so you need to contact the hotel you are interested in to see if multiple guest are allowed and if they have a fee, this is where I think most apartment rentals have an advantage. Remember in an apartment, you are the security and if there are any issues you do not have a front desk or security guard to call to help you out.
I just returned Wednesday from Medellin and I do not speak but enough Spanish to get my point across while still using google translate. Parque Lleras is the perfect area for those with limited espanol as that's where most of the other gringos are and you will run into more Colombians who speak A little English in that area. If you have any other questions feel free shoot me a PM. I just got back so things are pretty fresh in my head.
HarvestBoi
05-27-16, 00:45
Hey Surf. I know I can't use it to get into the country, was just wondering if the policia would accept it in lieu of the actual passport. Like many I don't like to carry the book around with me. Sounds like the safe answer is 'no'.
The passport card is only good for land crossings into Canada and Mexico and travel by ship to other countries. It cannot be used for air travel.
Member #4398
05-27-16, 01:46
Estebanh,
Aren't you the guy that was helping a young blind friend to relocate in Sosua DR and get chicas? I wonder how your friend did or is doing in Sosua. Did he buy a motoconcho? I figure he could drive in a moto in the DR even thought he's blind, nobody would have notice because Dominicans drive as if they blind. And since you mentioned that he was a martial artist and knew kunfu, he could kick some ass whenever he crashes into something or someone.
Cerebro.
If you are resourceful and can wing it in a Latin American country, you can do an apartment. No one speaks English in Medellin. Otherwise, you might try the Mansion for a few days. The real value the Mansion provides is helping you get oriented, introducing you to some girls and casa tours.
The passport card is only good for land crossings into Canada and Mexico and travel by ship to other countries. It cannot be used for air travel.I have been to Colombia many time mostly to Cartagena but have made about 5 trips to Medellin. I never take my passport out with me I always leave it in my apartment I do try to take a copy of my passport with me but sometimes forget to. I think it depend on the officer who stops you. The police officers at the checkpoints will pat you down and make sure you do not have any drugs or weapons on you. When they ask for your passport just show them the copy if they ask why you do not have your passport just say it is in my apartment and I do not want to loose it. I have showed them my NC drivers license when I forgot my copy of my passport because it had a photo of me on it and that has always worked. Now one time I was in a club in Cartagena and the immigration officers came in and started checking everyone in there I had my copy of my passport. He ask me where my passport was and I told him it was in my apartment. He asked where I was staying I told him and said we can go get it if you want. He said no that a copy was OK but next time make sure when I enter the county to have them stamp the date of entry on the copy so they can see how many day I had been in the country.
So I think a copy with the date of entry stamped on it will be better than a passport card but the card should work also just to show who you are. But you will need a passport to enter the country.
I would also say just be nice answer the questions and do not get smart with the officers and you should not have any problems.
Mr Enternational
05-27-16, 06:00
They're looking for underaged girls from Venezuela or other countries, not gringos. That's why they came with human rights people. It happens near the border. They check everything including your I. D just in case.Makes no sense at all. If they were looking for young VENEZUELAN GIRLS, why would they check 6 AMERICAN MEN who step out of 2 taxis? They never came inside of the casa. They were looking for overstayers.
El Mechanico, they did not want to see a copy of anything. They wanted to see the original documents that you entered the country with. This was a one off thing though. I still only carry my passport card when I am in the street. In my case they were able to call the hotel who could verify. If we were staying in an apartment then I have no idea how it would have played out.
Hey guys,
My buddy is coming to Medellin next week. He said he bought a one way ticket because he is not sure when he will be heading back to the US. His airline said he could be denied entry into Colombia without a return ticket. Anybody experience this situation? Any advice will be much appreciated.This is a little late, but I have bought one way tickets to Colombia many times with no problem. But, I have never directly flew straight from the US. It is the people in the US that might actually follow rules that will give you the problem. I must have flown to Colombia without a departing ticket about 5 times. I always want to stay longer and longer and longer, so I just don't buy a departing ticket until I am ready to leave. I only had been asked about a departing ticket two times, I can't remember where the first one was. But about 6 months ago I went from Puerto Rico to the Dominican Republic and I only had a one way ticket. The assholes in Puerto Rico kept telling me I need a departing ticket or I can't go. I said I have a ticket, which was a lie. He wanted a specific airline itinerary number. Well, I used my phone and bought me a ticket on the spot, and gave him that info and I was good to go. This might be because Puerto Rico is using the US protocols and laws. Someone can be ready to buy a ticket with their phone if needed, or some flights let you change dates for cheap or free. You can try that.
I will say one problem I had flying in to Colombia. I flew in to Bogota from Mexico, and the immigration officer asked me where I came from and I said Mexico. Then he loudly said "Mexico?" Then he asked me many questions about that. And he asked me why do I keep coming to Colombia, then he asked me if I have a girlfriend and I said yes. He could see I go to Medellin a lot, so he asked me if my girlfriend was in Bogota or Medellin. I said I have a few girlfriends in Colombia. Then he let me pass. I then went to change some money at the airport so I could have some taxi money. And also went to the restroom before picking up my suitcase. I normally would not do that, but I did this time. Some guys were specifically waiting for me after I passed the customs part. And a uniformed guy who spoke English asked me how much cash did I have. It was about $4,000 US. And he said where is it? And I said in my wallet, and I showed him. And he asked me did I have some cash somewhere else. I said no. And he let me go. I might have been suspicious of being a cash smuggler or something. So, don't be looking too suspicious before seeing the customs officers.
Hello guys,
I am in a similar situation except I do not know Spanish (will probably rely on Google translate).
Thanks,
LappadIt really blows my mind when people come to a country and cannot even communicate with the people. I could understand it if for example if you were an English speaking person and going to for example Puerto Vallarta or Cancun, Mexico, because there are at least some people who understand the English language because of the American and Canadian tourism, but to go to a country like Colombia where very very few people have any knowledge of the English language, and not be able to communicate at all blows my mind away. Why not go to somewhere you can at least carry on a half ass conversation? It just makes no sense what so ever to me. If you want to visit a country that is not native to your language at least learn to speak the language in a conversational sense.
Mr Enternational
05-27-16, 07:37
This is a little late, but I have bought one way tickets to Colombia many times with no problem. But, I have never directly flew straight from the US. It is the people in the US that might actually follow rules that will give you the problem. I must have flown to Colombia without a departing ticket about 5 times. I always want to stay longer and longer and longer, so I just don't buy a departing ticket until I am ready to leave. I only had been asked about a departing ticket two times, I can't remember where the first one was. But about 6 months ago I went from Puerto Rico to the Dominican Republic and I only had a one way ticket. The assholes in Puerto Rico kept telling me I need a departing ticket or I can't go. I said I have a ticket, which was a lie. He wanted a specific airline itinerary number. Well, I used my phone and bought me a ticket on the spot, and gave him that info and I was good to go. This might be because Puerto Rico is using the US protocols and laws. It has nothing to do with the USA. It has everything to do with the laws of the country that you are entering. If the airline lets you through without an exiting ticket and that country's rules say you need to be out of the country by a certain date because of your type of visa, then they will be fined along with footing the bill of sending you back if need be. So they must verify that you will be leaving the country on a certain date by way of your ticket out. I am not sure if the DR or Colombia requires you to have an exiting ticket, but I can 100% tell you that the Philippines does no matter what country you are entering from. You will not step on that plane without showing them something. So it is not about being an asshole. The airline could give a shit about where you go or how long you are staying there. But what they do give a shit about is not being fined because they let you on the plane without the proper documents; in this case a ticket out of that country if that is what their rules dictate.
Pipe Layer99
05-27-16, 08:09
would be much better off, much happier if you reminded yourself it's South America. They straightened out the tab for you, so what's the big deal? It's hardly worth getting bent out of shape over, and for the record they have never tried that with me or any of my friends. If the old man was blowing you off, the woman wasn't much better and tried ripping you off, maybe it was your attitude that got you this type of service?You must be either used to getting ripped off or a special sort of stupid. I travel all over the world. Not one to put up with getting ripped off. My attitude was simple, I was done and ready to leave, and ready to pay my tab. Not ready to pay the gringo rate. They didn't straighten out shit. 'I' straightened it out by showing the time on the card.
Pipe Layer99
05-27-16, 08:14
Guy flies to South America to have sex with model-quality girls, pays $20 instead of $15 for a girl that would cost him $300 in the states. And we should all be upset, why?You get what you pay for. If you want to pay more and get less, good luck with that.
It has nothing to do with the USA. It has everything to do with the laws of the country that you are entering. If the airline lets you through without an exiting ticket and that country's rules say you need to be out of the country by a certain date because of your type of visa, then they will be fined along with footing the bill of sending you back if need be. So they must verify that you will be leaving the country on a certain date by way of your ticket out. I am not sure if the DR or Colombia requires you to have an exiting ticket, but I can 100% tell you that the Philippines does no matter what country you are entering from. You will not step on that plane without showing them something. So it is not about being an asshole. The airline could give a shit about where you go or how long you are staying there. But what they do give a shit about is not being fined because they let you on the plane without the proper documents; in this case a ticket out of that country if that is what their rules dictate.If anyone would know what the policy is, it would be Mr. International. So there you have it people.
It has nothing to do with the USA. It has everything to do with the laws of the country that you are entering. If the airline lets you through without an exiting ticket and that country's rules say you need to be out of the country by a certain date because of your type of visa, then they will be fined along with footing the bill of sending you back if need be. So they must verify that you will be leaving the country on a certain date by way of your ticket out. I am not sure if the DR or Colombia requires you to have an exiting ticket, but I can 100% tell you that the Philippines does no matter what country you are entering from. You will not step on that plane without showing them something. So it is not about being an asshole. The airline could give a shit about where you go or how long you are staying there. But what they do give a shit about is not being fined because they let you on the plane without the proper documents; in this case a ticket out of that country if that is what their rules dictate.Almost every country requires an onward ticket, but it is rarely checked upon. The IATA site has this information somewhere for each country. I found it on the Avianca website once also. You can also try the https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/country.html website. I didn't have an onward ticket for about 1/2 of the 20 or so countries I flew in and through the last year and half. The Dominican Republic required proof, and I think the other one that bothered me was Guyana. Peru is supposed to do this also, but I luckily had an onward ticket.
I will fly to Bogota this Sunday from Mexico City. And I don't have a ticket leaving Colombia. I'll be prepared to buy a ticket if needed. Flying to Aruba or Curacao from Medellin and Bogota is cheap, and makes a nice trip. I'm actually going to bring a Colombian chica with me to Aruba anyways. Aruba and Curacao hasn't required a visa for Colombians since last December, and a round trip ticket is only $252 right now. They can also can go to most places in Europe (Schengen area). I'm going to go to Brazil probably in about a month while there isn't a visa required. But, I'm guessing they will be strict on the departing flight.
But. I have bought a ticket once for a Colombian college girl to see me in Cancun last year, and immigration sent her back on the next plane to Colombia. I brought a different Colombian chica with me to Cancun after that and we were drilled and had our baggage searched, then set free. I bought tickets for the same lady to see me in Guatemala, no visa required for Colombians. But immigration was going to send he back to Colombia, but luckily she convinced an immigration officer to go meet me near the airport exit. He looked at my passport, then he went back and let my lady thorough.
So, laws are laws, but they aren't being followed. If you want to see where your future Colombian wife-to-be can fly with you, just search for "Visa Requirements for Colombian Citizens Wiki" You can do this for other countries as well.
I don't know if this is legit, but I just seen a website that will let you "rent" an onward ticket for 48 hours, cost $9. 99 https://flyonward.com/en/ I guess it books you a ticket and cancels it in 48 hours. Another website lets you print fake tickets, but if they actually check in the system like they did to me in Puerto Rico, a fake printed ticket won't work. It might work for an immigration officer just wanting to see some papers. Here is that site http://www.returnflights.net/.
Another thing that is sure is if you fly to Costa Rica from countries listed as high risk for Yellow Fever they will require proof before leaving. Last year I had a ticket to go from Medellin to Costa Rica via Bogota, and the airline in Bogota would not let me on the plane without my proof of a yellow fever shot. I ended up going back to Medellin where I started from. I think they gave me the flight back to Medellin free. I can't remember.
Hey Surf. I know I can't use it to get into the country, was just wondering if the policia would accept it in lieu of the actual passport. Like many I don't like to carry the book around with me. Sounds like the safe answer is 'no'.The best way to minimize problems with the policia is to carry a color copy of your passport along with a photocopy of your entry stamp into the country with you at all times. If they ask where the original is tell them it is in your safe deposit box in your hotel because you don't want it stolen. Then offer them to go with you to your hotel and you will show them the original. This is what I did the only time I got stopped at 2 in the morning and they said OK no problem.
Makes no sense at all. If they were looking for young VENEZUELAN GIRLS, why would they check 6 AMERICAN MEN who step out of 2 taxis? They never came inside of the casa. They were looking for overstayers.If they were looking for over-stayers, why wouldn't they just wait until they try to cross a border instead of in front of a casa?
It sounds as though they may have been looking for something else, didn't find it, and when the gringos showed up they decided to check on them as they had nothing else to do.
Makes no sense that immigration would be waiting outside of casa's to check on gringos.
Just my two cents.
It has nothing to do with the USA. It has everything to do with the laws of the country that you are entering. If the airline lets you through without an exiting ticket and that country's rules say you need to be out of the country by a certain date because of your type of visa, then they will be fined along with footing the bill of sending you back if need be. So they must verify that you will be leaving the country on a certain date by way of your ticket out. I am not sure if the DR or Colombia requires you to have an exiting ticket, but I can 100% tell you that the Philippines does no matter what country you are entering from. You will not step on that plane without showing them something. So it is not about being an asshole. The airline could give a shit about where you go or how long you are staying there. But what they do give a shit about is not being fined because they let you on the plane without the proper documents; in this case a ticket out of that country if that is what their rules dictate.You are 100 % correct about the Philippines. I had a one way ticket from Bangkok on one airline to Manila and a one way ticket on another airline out of the Country. I had to produce a copy of the E-ticket out of the country before they would let me board the plane.
James Dandy
05-27-16, 12:58
You must be either used to getting ripped off or a special sort of stupid. I travel all over the world. Not one to put up with getting ripped off. My attitude was simple, I was done and ready to leave, and ready to pay my tab. Not ready to pay the gringo rate. They didn't straighten out shit. 'I' straightened it out by showing the time on the card.So it got straightened out like I said, why are you still crying about it? Just stay home if $3 wrecks your entire month.
Perhaps you have 'idiot' stamped on your forehead and that's why they tried screwing you over? As I stated before, my friends and I have never had a problem at NL, nor at any other casa for that matter. Good luck with your attitude, it's working wonders so far.
Maybe it was the casa's way of telling you not to come back? I don't think so, since they agreed to your protest and made it right, only for you to come here and whine incessantly about it. What was their point in making the customer whole for you to treat them like that in return? You could have just explained what happened and that in the end it was corrected, instead you accuse them of thievery and suggest everybody was in on it. For a well traveled guy, they sure took you for a fool!
This 'problem' is much ado about nothing. If a country requires an exit flight then simply book a flight with United, who will reserve your flight with their airline or another Star-Alliance member. Print out the ticket to show the agent. Once its booked, you have 24 hours to cancel it with no charge. Other airlines may have same cancellation policy but not sure.
I had to do this for the Philippines last year when I was still at SFO airport at the ticket counter with Eva Air, the Taiwanese airline. I reserved my outbound on line and showed the electronic version of ticket to the airline agent. Worked fine though make sure your outbound flight date falls within your visa stay limit.
Almost every country requires an onward ticket, but it is rarely checked upon. The IATA site has this information somewhere for each country. I found it on the Avianca website once also. You can also try the https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/country.html website. I didn't have an onward ticket for about 1/2 of the 20 or so countries I flew in and through the last year and half. The Dominican Republic required proof, and I think the other one that bothered me was Guyana. Peru is supposed to do this also, but I luckily had an onward ticket.
I will fly to Bogota this Sunday from Mexico City. And I don't have a ticket leaving Colombia. I'll be prepared to buy a ticket if needed. Flying to Aruba or Curacao from Medellin and Bogota is cheap, and makes a nice trip. I'm actually going to bring a Colombian chica with me to Aruba anyways. Aruba and Curacao hasn't required a visa for Colombians since last December, and a round trip ticket is only $252 right now. They can also can go to most places in Europe (Schengen area). I'm going to go to Brazil probably in about a month while there isn't a visa required. But, I'm guessing they will be strict on the departing flight.
But. I have bought a ticket once for a Colombian college girl to see me in Cancun last year, and immigration sent her back on the next plane to Colombia. I brought a different Colombian chica with me to Cancun after that and we were drilled and had our baggage searched, then set free. I bought tickets for the same lady to see me in Guatemala, no visa required for Colombians. But immigration was going to send he back to Colombia, but luckily she convinced an immigration officer to go meet me near the airport exit. He looked at my passport, then he went back and let my lady thorough.
So, laws are laws, but they aren't being followed. If you want to see where your future Colombian wife-to-be can fly with you, just search for "Visa Requirements for Colombian Citizens Wiki" You can do this for other countries as well.
I don't know if this is legit, but I just seen a website that will let you "rent" an onward ticket for 48 hours, cost $9. 99 https://flyonward.com/en/ I guess it books you a ticket and cancels it in 48 hours. Another website lets you print fake tickets, but if they actually check in the system like they did to me in Puerto Rico, a fake printed ticket won't work. It might work for an immigration officer just wanting to see some papers. Here is that site http://www.returnflights.net/.
Another thing that is sure is if you fly to Costa Rica from countries listed as high risk for Yellow Fever they will require proof before leaving. Last year I had a ticket to go from Medellin to Costa Rica via Bogota, and the airline in Bogota would not let me on the plane without my proof of a yellow fever shot. I ended up going back to Medellin where I started from. I think they gave me the flight back to Medellin free. I can't remember.
Arrived last week on May 19th. Got in late on a JetBlue flight. Hit the Maloka hostel (private room) in Parque Lleras. Great location. Room was not good. I knew it didn't have AC but the room was very humid and had a musty smell all 3 nights. Bed was hard. Shower would not hold a temperature and would literally go from hot to cold on it's own depending if water was being used somewhere else in the hotel. The bright side is that it was relatively quiet in my room. The location is great and you get breakfast (eggs, toast, coffee, juice).
Got up the next day and first place I went was Energy Massage near Estadio. I was there 2 years ago and saw 2 beauties. This time was different. There was a large lineup of 15 to 18 girls but only one that was decent. I would give her a 7. 5. Literally the others were not good. Girls must be eating a lot more McDonalds and Dunkin Donuts since I was there 2 years ago. Girl was fine. Nothing great. 140 k pesos for an hour.
Late that night I went to Fase Dos. Not a lot of beauties but there were at least 3 that were very nice. One in particular with a flawless face and a body that was perfect. Great boobs, solid stomach. Great service and very relaxing 180 k pesos. I like this place. It's small enough to feel intimate. And the people were friendly. Been there many times.
The next day I hit New Life downtown on Calle 56. Lots of girls. 2 that I really liked. Sofia and I forget the name of the other. Sofia was great. Fun. Smiling. $10 extra for uncovered BJ. Well worth the money.
That night I tried La Isla Club. It's up on the top of the mountain at Las Palmas. Very big place inside. Did not feel intimate to me. I waited for girls to come out. I literally saw one beauty and the rest was completely not interested in. I might go back here again in the future but it's so spacious inside that it doesn't feel personal to me. I was told girls were 200 k to 300 k with room. I left without buying.
Next day I hit Fase Dos at night again. Don't even think of getting to these strip clubs until at least 11:00 pm. They are dead until then. Saw my beauty from the other night but she was busy. I tried another tall very built girl. Not bad. I liked the first one better but not bad. Went home.
Next day I hit New Life again. It was a Sunday and my 2 good looking girls from the other day were not there. Picked a girl that looked like an 8 with shirt on. Was a 7 with shirt off. Not bad. Pleasant. Easy to talk to. Done. Most massage places are closed on Sunday so plan accordingly.
Stayed 3 nights at Maloka Hostel. Stayed last 2 nights at Novelty Suites Hotel next to Oviedo mall in Poblado. Last minute reservations got me a room for an average of $55 per night with a great breakfast buffet in the mornings. Like this hotel a lot. It seems that last minute reservations always seem to be cheaper than advanced ones at this hotel.
Sunday morning they close off the main street through Poblado for 2 or 3 miles and let joggers, bikers, pet walkers, etc. Have the road for at least 5 or 6 hours. Highly recommend walking this road on Sunday mornings. Fresh fruit on side of road, Fresh squeezed orange juice, lemonade, etc. Very pleasant.
I like Medellin. I think this was my 8th or 9th time. Weather is like Spring. Area around Parque Lleras has very nice, cool, hip restaurants, shops, coffee bars, regular bars. Shaded streets make it cooler. I will be back to Medellin soon.
Mr Enternational
05-27-16, 15:48
If they were looking for over-stayers, why wouldn't they just wait until they try to cross a border instead of in front of a casa?
Makes no sense that immigration would be waiting outside of casa's to check on gringos.Because just like here in Thailand there are overstayers that have been here for years with no intention of going to a border anytime soon. But one thing is for sure, sooner or later they will be trying to go get some pussy!
It really blows my mind when people come to a country and cannot even communicate with the people. I could understand it if for example if you were an English speaking person and going to for example Puerto Vallarta or Cancun, Mexico, because there are at least some people who understand the English language because of the American and Canadian tourism, but to go to a country like Colombia where very very few people have any knowledge of the English language, and not be able to communicate at all blows my mind away. Why not go to somewhere you can at least carry on a half ass conversation? It just makes no sense what so ever to me. If you want to visit a country that is not native to your language at least learn to speak the language in a conversational sense.It really blows my mind when people are too chicken shit to go to a country where they can't speak the language. I've been to 49 countries and I sure as hell don't speak 49 languages. I've gotten by. He could show up with a phrase book plus some of the sex slang from this forum and have a good time. That's if he has any balls.
...Got up the next day and first place I went was Energy Massage near Estadio. I was there 2 years ago and saw 2 beauties. This time was different. There was a large lineup of 15 to 18 girls but only one that was decent. I would give her a 7. 5. Literally the others were not good. Girls must be eating a lot more McDonalds and Dunkin Donuts since I was there 2 years ago. Girl was fine. Nothing great. 140 k pesos for an hour.
Late that night I went to Fase Dos. Not a lot of beauties but there were at least 3 that were very nice. One in particular with a flawless face and a body that was perfect. Great boobs, solid stomach. Great service and very relaxing 180 k pesos. I like this place. It's small enough to feel intimate. And the people were friendly. Been there many times...
I like Medellin. I think this was my 8th or 9th time. Weather is like Spring. Area around Parque Lleras has very nice, cool, hip restaurants, shops, coffee bars, regular bars. Shaded streets make it cooler. I will be back to Medellin soon.Nice report! I had the same experience at Energy, at times plenty of talent, and at other times not much different from New Life. At least the latter has a bigger line up, easier to find one or two decent looking.
It really blows my mind when people come to a country and cannot even communicate with the people. I could understand it if for example if you were an English speaking person and going to for example Puerto Vallarta or Cancun, Mexico, because there are at least some people who understand the English language because of the American and Canadian tourism, but to go to a country like Colombia where very very few people have any knowledge of the English language, and not be able to communicate at all blows my mind away. Why not go to somewhere you can at least carry on a half ass conversation? It just makes no sense what so ever to me. If you want to visit a country that is not native to your language at least learn to speak the language in a conversational sense.Most of us in the USA were never taught a second language. We are late to the game. I have been studying Spanish for five years now. Its really, really difficult to learn a new language unless you are immersed and can take formal lessons. Most of us have to work. We come down for a little fun and we can get along just fine with Taco Bell Spanish, thank you.
Hasideas Tao
05-27-16, 21:28
Best way to minimize problems with the Policia is to not do anything illegal or might even appear to be illegal at first glance. As far as your passport in your room, it doesn't matter if you have all your luggage and your pet carrying a bag of fruit, sorry officer "my passport is guarded at my hotel" . If they want to arrest you for something or suspicion of something, they will. Furthermore, the department has incentives to make captures by rewarding officers with a day off.
The best way to minimize problems with the policia is to carry a color copy of your passport along with a photocopy of your entry stamp into the country with you at all times. If they ask where the original is tell them it is in your safe deposit box in your hotel because you don't want it stolen. Then offer them to go with you to your hotel and you will show them the original. This is what I did the only time I got stopped at 2 in the morning and they said OK no problem.
Best way to minimize problems with the Policia is to not do anything illegal or might even appear to be illegal at first glance. As far as your passport in your room, it doesn't matter if you have all your luggage and your pet carrying a bag of fruit, sorry officer "my passport is guarded at my hotel" . If they want to arrest you for something or suspicion of something, they will. Furthermore, the department has incentives to make captures by rewarding officers with a day off.The question raised had to do about identity, of course a gringo would be stupid to do anything illegal or act stupid which is the obvious. I'm not aware of what the law is regarding visitors to Colombia and what kind of ID is required to be in their possession, but have seen the police checking ID's of locals which are called "cedulas" and actually checking their in Country database of people.
Therefore it would be wise for visitors to carry ID with them at all times as the Police might consider this to be "illegal" and problematic just as it would be for the locals. The police are also aware that there are a lot of pickpockets and thieves in Medellin that not only target gringos but Paisas as well and would understand why a visitor would not want to carry their original Passport on them.
It really blows my mind when people are too chicken shit to go to a country where they can't speak the language. I've been to 49 countries and I sure as hell don't speak 49 languages. I've gotten by. He could show up with a phrase book plus some of the sex slang from this forum and have a good time. That's if he has any balls.I think both of you have a point. You don't need to master the language to enjoy the country. Just put Google Translate on your phone and try to pick up a few of the basics and you can get by.
However, there are plenty (especially my fellow Americans) who act offended when the people in a foreign country don't understand English. As if the whole country should learn another language to accommodate one tourist.
If someone isn't willing to make some effort to communicate, they should just stay home.
If someone isn't willing to make some effort to communicate, they should just stay home.Thank you as you definitely get it!
It really blows my mind when people are too chicken shit to go to a country where they can't speak the language. I've been to 49 countries and I sure as hell don't speak 49 languages. I've gotten by. He could show up with a phrase book plus some of the sex slang from this forum and have a good time. That's if he has any balls.What are you speaking about as it is obvious you do not speak 49 languages, but you can communicate in most of the countries you have been to I can assure you that with you Spanish and English skills, as well as the other languages that you have some knowledge of. You most certainly are not clueless like so many on the ISG, and as much as you have traveled you have learned to communicate with the people in some manner, and I am sure the Dickhead is not bringing out a google translator.
Thanks Esteban. We ended up booking apartment today.
If you are resourceful and can wing it in a Latin American country, you can do an apartment. No one speaks English in Medellin. Otherwise, you might try the Mansion for a few days. The real value the Mansion provides is helping you get oriented, introducing you to some girls and casa tours.
It really blows my mind when people are too chicken shit to go to a country where they can't speak the language. I've been to 49 countries and I sure as hell don't speak 49 languages. I've gotten by. He could show up with a phrase book plus some of the sex slang from this forum and have a good time. That's if he has any balls.You make a very good point. I speak Spanish and English, but my hobbying has extended way beyond destinations with those two languages. I've had an incredible time in some locales where I could hardly communicate at all.
I do think it's beneficial to learn a few key words and phrases (basic numbers for sure). But for the guy that travels a couple weeks a year, anything beyond that is likely not worth the time spent learning.
OTOH I know some fellow hobbyists who spend months at a time in Colombia, DR, etc, and speak next to no Spanish. IMO that's a bit embarrassing.
I am heading to Medellin, Colombia and I have no knowledge what so ever of the Spanish language so I better download my app of google translator. (scene) I see this girl in Bar Fahrenheit I want to talk to, man I better bring out my Iphone and type in the translator "you are beautiful can I buy you a drink?" then tap the girl on the shoulder and hand her the Iphone so she can read the message. It is almost like I have to act like I am a deaf mute because I do not understand a word she says back to me, so I have to point to the translator so she can enter her response.
Wow this sure is a good time when my communication has to be through a cell phone app. Next thing I know I am leaving the bar and get robbed as someone saw me bring out my Iphone which obviously made me a mark to the thieves.
It's certainly true that I don't use a translator. I'll give two humorous examples of the dangers of translation programs. #1, a gringo wanted to give his favorita a 'promise ring.' While this is innately stupid, the situation was greatly exacerbated by the fact that the word for 'promise' and 'get engaged' are the same. So, he thought he was giving her a promise ring but she was certain she had received an engagement ring. Ha ha. #2, an escort posted an ad stating that she was looking for 'ready horsemen.' Hmmm.
Well, 'listo' when used with the verb 'estar' means 'ready.' But 'listo' when used with the verb 'ser' means 'smart' or 'clever.' Then the word for 'gentlemen' translates as 'caballero,' which literally means 'horseman' since in medieval Spain, only the landed gentry could own and ride horses. So, she was looking for smart gentlemen, which is a bit different than ready horsemen.
Furthermore, most putas can't spell well enough in Spanish for the average translator to figure out what the hell they are saying. What's the translator going to do with 'lo ciento,' for example?
I am heading to Medellin, Colombia and I have no knowledge what so ever of the Spanish language so I better download my app of google translator. (scene) I see this girl in Bar Fahrenheit I want to talk to, man I better bring out my Iphone and type in the translator "you are beautiful can I buy you a drink?" then tap the girl on the shoulder and hand her the Iphone so she can read the message. It is almost like I have to act like I am a deaf mute because I do not understand a word she says back to me, so I have to point to the translator so she can enter her response.
Wow this sure is a good time when my communication has to be through a cell phone app. Next thing I know I am leaving the bar and get robbed as someone saw me bring out my Iphone which obviously made me a mark to the thieves.That's one way to do it. Are you going to feel sorry for the guy who didn't bother to do enough research to know:
A. Your iPhone probably won't work. Buy a cheap phone and get a sim card after you land.
Be. Don't pull out your expensive anything in public.
See. How to say "Eres muy hermosa. Puedo comprar una bebida para ti?" along with a couple of more phrases appropriate for the situations they are likely to find themselves in.
I know enough Spanish to stumble through a simple conversation and to read a menu. Google Translate is there to fill in the gaps back in the room. It's also handy when pronunciation gets in the way of comprehension. For instance, when my Colombian friend was showing some pictures of her friends, I couldn't understand that "cha bee air" was Xavier, because I pronounce it either "zā vee your" or "ha vee air. " All she had to type was "Xav" and I understood.
If you're interested in communicating, you'll find a way. If not, maybe losing your iPhone and wallet will convince you to stay home.
The point I have been trying to make is if you are going to a visit a country that you cannot communicate at all in, learn some basic communication before you go. Learn about the culture, learn the basics of the language so you can at least verbally communicate with the people, or find a country to go to that allows you to communicate in your language and be understood. What fun is it if you have to totally rely on a translation app to communicate with the people? There are enough language apps, classes, books, videos, tapes out there that can provide you an opportunity to learn how to say good morning, good afternoon, good night and simple phrases to help you make it through your day. Believe me, your efforts to communicate will be appreciated. A language app is only to be used when you need for instance to find a word or learn the meaning of one. It is not intended to be used as a tool to be used for your laziness in not taking the time to learn basic words and phrases. Also as Dickhead pointed out, a translator can also fuck you up by providing you meanings of words that are incorrect, and it does not translate "slang" which is always used in a conversation especially here in Colombia.
If you do not want to learn simple words or phrases so you can communicate with the people in the country you are visiting then keep your ass at home, or find a place to visit that you can communicate in. Your other option is to find a community that caters to your language and hangout there.
Big Boss Man
05-28-16, 18:19
JJBee said, "Don't pull out your expensive anything in public. ".
Expensive is a relative term. The rule my father taught me is too never carry anything that you cannot afford to lose. Many people in South America have smartphones and I have been carrying smartphones for years now. I use the Nexus. Maybe the Iphone is perceived as being more valuable. I never wear a watch or jewelry.
I never had a problem in South America. I did get in over my head in Shanghai once and it cost me $300. I do admit to being a lower profile guy than most of the guys I have met from the Board.
Furthermore, most putas can't spell well enough in Spanish for the average translator to figure out what the hell they are saying. What's the translator going to do with 'lo ciento,' for example?I certainly found this to be true, though the translators usually do enough good to give you the gist.
I've found that those first few basic sentences can give you an idea of whether she's interested or not (I mean if she's interested enough to help muddle through broken conversation, she might be interested enough in making the deal happen and in making you happy:
-Hola, como estas?
-Bien y tu?
-Muy bien gracias.
-Como te llamaS? Or Cual es tu nombre?
-Me llamo xxx.
-Ahhh (insert her name), bonito nombre para una mujer hermosa!
-Gracias!
-De nada. De donde eres?
-Soy de Bogota.
-Ahh Bogota.
-Soy de (insert where you're from).
-She'll say some Spanish gibberish, then you say.
-Mira, mira tranquilo por favor. Despacio. Mi espanol no es bueno. Hablas ingles?
-Aye no Papi, I no ingles.
-Claro, no problema. Soy su maestro de ingles y tu eres mi maestra de amor. Entiendes?
-Claro mi amor. Que te gusta?
-Tu!
-Jajajaja! Donde es su hotel?
Bingo you're in! Figure it out from there. I remember that shit after 6 years of not speaking Spanish! It may be a little off, but the point is (and what I did on my first trip) was to script out (in translated form) what I might need to say in that initial conversation. I didn't need it, but going over a core set of phrases for different situations makes a big difference in your confidence. And if there's one thing women love, it's a confident man. If you no what to say, you can focus on your non verbals and other cues that will help you close the deal. Now, if you know nothing but the word, Cuanto, and your numbers, you can get a girl, but the quality of the experience might not be as great as it could have been. All girls want to be woo'd, even if you're going to be paying them. But if you can make them feel like regular girls and make the transaction (negocios) an afterthought, you might be surprised at the impact your efforts have on your final price. Negocios versus amigos!
I am heading to Medellin, Colombia and I have no knowledge what so ever of the Spanish language so I better download my app of google translator. (scene) I see this girl in Bar Fahrenheit I want to talk to, man I better bring out my Iphone and type in the translator "you are beautiful can I buy you a drink?" then tap the girl on the shoulder and hand her the Iphone so she can read the message. It is almost like I have to act like I am a deaf mute because I do not understand a word she says back to me, so I have to point to the translator so she can enter her response.
Wow this sure is a good time when my communication has to be through a cell phone app. Next thing I know I am leaving the bar and get robbed as someone saw me bring out my Iphone which obviously made me a mark to the thieves.You're talking non-pros? A short-time visitor isn't going to have much luck with non-pros regardless of language ability (unless he's George Clooney good-looking). A short-term visitor is going to be heading to the Casas, the Mansion, Fase 2, etc where he'll get by just fine with little / no Spanish. Would being conversant in Spanish improve his experience? Of course, but not likely worth the time and energy involved in getting there.
No harm, no foul in Shanghai. The touts there are world class. Many an experienced monger has found himself in sideways situations with street vendors, touts, bars / clip joints, etc.
JJBee said, "Don't pull out your expensive anything in public. ".
Expensive is a relative term. The rule my father taught me is too never carry anything that you cannot afford to lose. Many people in South America have smartphones and I have been carrying smartphones for years now. I use the Nexus. Maybe the Iphone is perceived as being more valuable. I never wear a watch or jewelry.
I never had a problem in South America. I did get in over my head in Shanghai once and it cost me $300. I do admit to being a lower profile guy than most of the guys I have met from the Board.
The Tall Man
05-29-16, 02:26
Arrived last week on May 19th. Got in late on a JetBlue flight. Hit the Maloka hostel (private room) in Parque Lleras. Great location. Room was not good. I knew it didn't have AC but the room was very humid and had a musty smell all 3 nights. Bed was hard. Shower would not hold a temperature and would literally go from hot to cold on it's own depending if water was being used somewhere else in the hotel. The bright side is that it was relatively quiet in my room. The location is great and you get breakfast (eggs, toast, coffee, juice).
Got up the next day and first place I went was Energy Massage near Estadio. I was there 2 years ago and saw 2 beauties. This time was different. There was a large lineup of 15 to 18 girls but only one that was decent. I would give her a 7. 5. Literally the others were not good. Girls must be eating a lot more McDonalds and Dunkin Donuts since I was there 2 years ago. Girl was fine. Nothing great. 140 k pesos for an hour.
Late that night I went to Fase Dos. Not a lot of beauties but there were at least 3 that were very nice. One in particular with a flawless face and a body that was perfect. Great boobs, solid stomach. Great service and very relaxing 180 k pesos. I like this place. It's small enough to feel intimate. And the people were friendly. Been there many times.
The next day I hit New Life downtown on Calle 56. Lots of girls. 2 that I really liked. Sofia and I forget the name of the other. Sofia was great. Fun. Smiling. $10 extra for uncovered BJ. Well worth the money.
That night I tried La Isla Club. It's up on the top of the mountain at Las Palmas. Very big place inside. Did not feel intimate to me. I waited for girls to come out. I literally saw one beauty and the rest was completely not interested in. I might go back here again in the future but it's so spacious inside that it doesn't feel personal to me. I was told girls were 200 k to 300 k with room. I left without buying.
Next day I hit Fase Dos at night again. Don't even think of getting to these strip clubs until at least 11:00 pm. They are dead until then. Saw my beauty from the other night but she was busy. I tried another tall very built girl. Not bad. I liked the first one better but not bad. Went home.
Next day I hit New Life again. It was a Sunday and my 2 good looking girls from the other day were not there. Picked a girl that looked like an 8 with shirt on. Was a 7 with shirt off. Not bad. Pleasant. Easy to talk to. Done. Most massage places are closed on Sunday so plan accordingly.
Stayed 3 nights at Maloka Hostel. Stayed last 2 nights at Novelty Suites Hotel next to Oviedo mall in Poblado. Last minute reservations got me a room for an average of $55 per night with a great breakfast buffet in the mornings. Like this hotel a lot. It seems that last minute reservations always seem to be cheaper than advanced ones at this hotel.
Sunday morning they close off the main street through Poblado for 2 or 3 miles and let joggers, bikers, pet walkers, etc. Have the road for at least 5 or 6 hours. Highly recommend walking this road on Sunday mornings. Fresh fruit on side of road, Fresh squeezed orange juice, lemonade, etc. Very pleasant.
I like Medellin. I think this was my 8th or 9th time. Weather is like Spring. Area around Parque Lleras has very nice, cool, hip restaurants, shops, coffee bars, regular bars. Shaded streets make it cooler. I will be back to Medellin soon.Very nice report. I too have frequented Energy by the estatido a number of times over the course of about 5 years now. Sometimes it's real good selection and sometimes just mediocre at best but I always need to visit and see.
TTM.
Is this place still open? I remember hitting it up when I stayed at the Nutibara hotel. Hadn't seen much reporting on it. I saw some stunners there the two times I visited.
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