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PhilBoNevada
10-01-16, 16:23
Hey,

I'm heading back next month. Seeking a buddy to meet up with. Any advice or tips appreciated too. Who's in Colombia in Oct?Hey,

I'm in MDE now, for a few weeks. Just figuring it out. Let me know when you get here.

Paulie97
10-01-16, 17:10
Low IQ for me is demonstrated by people who tell others how they are supposed to behave.It takes a person of less than ideal intelligence (low IQ) to come here peppering generalized questions IE. "where are the girls at?" etc. Without it ever dawning on them that the answers and much more could be found via RTFF.

If not then they are looking for someone to hold their hand. They are free to behave in that manner and others are free to refrain from participating in their questionnaire, or to even criticize them. All within the rules of the game here at ISG.

PhilBoNevada
10-01-16, 22:45
I arrived 3 days ago; staying in El Poblado. This definitely seems like the place to be. Thanks to members for posting such good info. Staying at calle 10 Express Hotel. It seems chica friendly, desk staff doesn't seem to pay close attention, but I haven't tried. Hotel is on booking.com. In a couple more days I will move to a hostel with single room. There are a bunch of options in Poblado. Park Lleras is very busy Thursday through, Saturday night. Plenty of nice bars and restaurants to choose from; all price ranges. I was approached last night by several chicas, with straightforward offers. I was not impressed with the talent, and was thinking that maybe Medellin as over-hyped.

This afternoon, 1 pm went to New Life, calle 56, look for the blue door. There are a couple of nice little locals bars on the corner if you need a beer. Locals were very friendly.

Chicas: excellent selection, 8 girls, all doable (7-8 range mostly) a couple were super cute to my tastes. I picked Anna, 23, small spinner with black hair and very white skin. A very sweet girl. Be nice to her! Prices are posted on back of room door. You stay as long as you want and pay on way out. Shower in room. 45 k for 30 min. With propina 60 total, wow! I spotted a couple other girls on the way out, so selection is excellent. I really like this casa.

That's all I know for now.

Hasideas Tao
10-02-16, 00:42
Has anyone noticed a lot of girls either don't, won't, or can't lift their ass up when fucking doggy?

Some girls, put it right out there and you can go to town. Others, it seems like they are curving their back and pulling their pussy away no matter how nice you start out asking, suggesting, telling. Until no matter how hard you push them down.

Face down ass up. Its not that tough yet some chicas just will not oblige. Any suggestions. All lewd rude and sensible comments welcome.

How does one say in spanish. Lift your ass up? Or stick out your ass so your pussy is winking at me! Haha.

Mr Enternational
10-02-16, 00:56
Face down ass up. Its not that tough yet some chicas just will not oblige.How do you know it is not that tough?

Surfer500
10-02-16, 02:47
Has anyone noticed a lot of girls either don't, won't, or can't lift their ass up when fucking doggy?

Some girls, put it right out there and you can go to town. Others, it seems like they are curving their back and pulling their pussy away no matter how nice you start out asking, suggesting, telling. Until no matter how hard you push them down.

Face down ass up. Its not that tough yet some chicas just will not oblige. Any suggestions. All lewd rude and sensible comments welcome.

How does one say in spanish. Lift your ass up? Or stick out your ass so your pussy is winking at me! Haha.I'm surprised Dickhead hasn't responded, my Spanish is basic but you could say something like, Levanata tu culo, quiero ver tu panoche. But that wouldn't indicate which direction. Perhaps you could say "cara abajo, culo arriba" but that would probably confuse the girl. You could say, " Quiero penetrarte en perrito" which means I want to enter you doggie style. You could say " En cuatrro" which means on all fours. Or you could say " Quiero cojerte desde atras" which means I want to fuck you from behind.

Armed with these phrases you should be able to get a "winking pussy" in your face that you can plow, have fun!

Queens35
10-02-16, 04:31
Has anyone noticed a lot of girls either don't, won't, or can't lift their ass up when fucking doggy?

Some girls, put it right out there and you can go to town. Others, it seems like they are curving their back and pulling their pussy away no matter how nice you start out asking, suggesting, telling. Until no matter how hard you push them down.

Face down ass up. Its not that tough yet some chicas just will not oblige. Any suggestions. All lewd rude and sensible comments welcome.

How does one say in spanish. Lift your ass up? Or stick out your ass so your pussy is winking at me! Haha.They do that to prevent you from fucking them too hard. They don't want to walk around sore after getting pounded hard 6-8 times per day.

You can say something like "baje los hombros y levante tus nalgas" (lower your shoulders and lift your butt).

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10-02-16, 05:05
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Dickhead
10-02-16, 15:58
They do that to prevent you from fucking them too hard. They don't want to walk around sore after getting pounded hard 6-8 times per day.

You can say something like "baje los hombros y levante tus nalgas" (lower your shoulders and lift your butt). That'll sure work. I'd use the reflexive forms, since the doer is also the one being done to: 'bájete los hombros y levántete las nalgas (por favor, amorcita). ' I'd probably use 'la cola' instead of 'las nalgas'; nalgas is butt cheeks or buttocks, whereas you probably want her to raise her whole ass. Body parts are generally impersonal in Spanish, meaning I don't lift up 'my' (insert body part) but rather just 'the' (body part). Sounds kinda strange to us, but that's what they do, unless it's to clarify or emphasize whose body part it is.

Another thing that seems weird to English speakers is a construction like: 'Los hombres se quitan el chaleco' (The men take off the vest). We want it to be 'vests' (plural), since if there is more than one man, then more than one vest is being removed. But in Spanish, each person is only removing one vest, so even though hombres is plural, chaleco remains in the singular form.

Fortunately for me, I like 'flatdog,' so I want the shoulders up and the butt down. That way I can hook my arms around their shoulders.

Hope that helps!

Dickhead
10-02-16, 16:06
Levanata tu culoCulo is ass hole and is considered pretty rude. Suggest using cola instead. That literally means tail, which is why it is also used to refer to a line in a grocery store, for example. That word can be used in polite or mixed company. If you do have occasion to refer to the actual hole, I recommend you use orto.

Hope that helps! I've been traveling so I didn't see this for a few days. Countries 50-53. But back in Spain now where things make a little more sense.

Turgid
10-02-16, 17:09
Has anyone noticed a lot of girls either don't, won't, or can't lift their ass up when fucking doggy?

Some girls, put it right out there and you can go to town. Others, it seems like they are curving their back and pulling their pussy away no matter how nice you start out asking, suggesting, telling. Until no matter how hard you push them down.

Face down ass up. Its not that tough yet some chicas just will not oblige. Any suggestions. All lewd rude and sensible comments welcome.

How does one say in spanish. Lift your ass up? Or stick out your ass so your pussy is winking at me! Haha.For the first time in my years of reading this forum a poster has articulated a problem I have had my entire sexual life. And what about those girls who, in doggy, would push their ass towards you in order to limit the trajectory of your thrusts. You either have to push the bunda a little away from you or pull your knees back a bit and it goes on and on. Believe me telling them anything would not work, their intention is to restrain you. They will obey you for a few minutes and then go back to what they were doing. You don't have to say anything to those who really enjoy sex.

Lefeu
10-02-16, 17:17
For the first time in my years of reading this forum a poster has articulated a problem I have had my entire sexual life. And what about those girls who, in doggy, would push their ass towards you in order to limit the trajectory of your thrusts. You either have to push the bunda a little away from you or pull your knees back a bit and it goes on and on. Believe me telling them anything would not work, their intention is to restrain you. They will obey you for a few minutes and then go back to what they were doing. You don't have to say anything to those who really enjoy sex.Haha, well said. I have been dealing with this problem all these mongering years, and I have not been able to solve this problem, as I really enjoy doggy, and flat doggy. My only option so far is to forget about these girls.

YippieKayay
10-02-16, 18:27
Haha, well said. I have been dealing with this problem all these mongering years, and I have not been able to solve this problem, as I really enjoy doggy, and flat doggy. My only option so far is to forget about these girls.Try starting out slower, and maybe do a bit of foreplay. You want the girl to be relaxed. I also suggest starting in a scissor missionary position as well if her vagina is smaller than your penis. Not all girls will have this problem. I had a girl who could only do missionary later during sex, but could start off doggy with no problems. But it really depends on the woman. I would suggest letting her pick the initial positions. Just going to pound town from the start is going to scare her.

This is one reason I tend to repeat with the same girl if I find we're compatible. Mind you penis length, girth, and shape all have an effect on this, along with the shape and size of her vagina, but most importantly it depends on what the girl is used to.

Surfer500
10-02-16, 19:54
Culo is ass hole and is considered pretty rude. Suggest using cola instead. That literally means tail, which is why it is also used to refer to a line in a grocery store, for example. That word can be used in polite or mixed company. If you do have occasion to refer to the actual hole, I recommend you use orto.

Hope that helps! I've been traveling so I didn't see this for a few days. Countries 50-53. But back in Spain now where things make a little more sense.Interesting as I have never heard culo used to call someone an asshole but have heard the word pendejo used, but my Spanish is limited to Mexican and Colombian Spanish, at least the little I know.

Surfer500
10-02-16, 22:56
For the first time in my years of reading this forum a poster has articulated a problem I have had my entire sexual life. And what about those girls who, in doggy, would push their ass towards you in order to limit the trajectory of your thrusts. You either have to push the bunda a little away from you or pull your knees back a bit and it goes on and on. Believe me telling them anything would not work, their intention is to restrain you. They will obey you for a few minutes and then go back to what they were doing. You don't have to say anything to those who really enjoy sex.This is kind of strange having to deal with girls that don't like doggy. I usually don't have these issues as I do them from the side of the bed and prop them up to the correct elevation utilizing pillows. I then am positioned with my knees on the side of the bed to help support me. Sometimes the girls are hanging on to the bed covers like their on a bare knuckle roller coaster ride screaming all the way!

Knowledge
10-03-16, 00:42
I agree 100%, in other words, the experiences will be better for both participants when we treat the woman like a human being instead of a blow up doll.


Try starting out slower, and maybe do a bit of foreplay. You want the girl to be relaxed. I also suggest starting in a scissor missionary position as well if her vagina is smaller than your penis. Not all girls will have this problem. I had a girl who could only do missionary later during sex, but could start off doggy with no problems. But it really depends on the woman. I would suggest letting her pick the initial positions. Just going to pound town from the start is going to scare her.

This is one reason I tend to repeat with the same girl if I find we're compatible. Mind you penis length, girth, and shape all have an effect on this, along with the shape and size of her vagina, but most importantly it depends on what the girl is used to.

Combo
10-03-16, 03:30
Culo is ass hole and is considered pretty rude. Suggest using cola instead. That literally means tail, which is why it is also used to refer to a line in a grocery store, for example. That word can be used in polite or mixed company. If you do have occasion to refer to the actual hole, I recommend you use orto.

Hope that helps! I've been traveling so I didn't see this for a few days. Countries 50-53. But back in Spain now where things make a little more sense.Dickhead. With all due respect, I've seen this repeated elsewhere and it's just not correct. Culo in Latin American can mean las nalgas o el ano, not just the latter. It's not inaccurate at all to use culo for a persons ass (and not necessarily just the asshole). "Nalgas" is probably the best word for "buttocks," but culo, trasero, cola all work. Indeed, a girl that has a prominent / big ass is called "Culona. ".

FWIW, I would say "Levántate las caderas," But if you say, "levántate el culo," she'll know damn well what you mean.

Turgid
10-03-16, 12:52
This is kind of strange having to deal with girls that don't like doggy. I usually don't have these issues as I do them from the side of the bed and prop them up to the correct elevation utilizing pillows. I then am positioned with my knees on the side of the bed to help support me. Sometimes the girls are hanging on to the bed covers like their on a bare knuckle roller coaster ride screaming all the way!You da man!

Dickhead
10-03-16, 13:27
Dickhead. With all due respect, I've seen this repeated elsewhere and it's just not correct. Culo in Latin American can mean las nalgas o el ano, not just the latter. It's not inaccurate at all to use culo for a persons ass (and not necessarily just the asshole). "Nalgas" is probably the best word for "buttocks," but culo, trasero, cola all work. Indeed, a girl that has a prominent / big ass is called "Culona. ".

FWIW, I would say "Levntate las caderas," But if you say, "levntate el culo," she'll know damn well what you mean.Okay, buddy. You just go ahead and use culo, and see what kind of response you get.

Dickhead
10-03-16, 14:00
Interesting as I have never heard culo used to call someone an assholeNo, they don't use it that way. However, let me correct something.

I wrote 'levntete' and 'bjete' and that is an inappropriate mix of the familiar tu form and the formal Ud. Form. It is the Ud. command with the informal reflexive pronoun. I think I was still waking up when I wrote that.

The correct familiar form would be 'levntate' and 'bjate' and if I were banging a hooker, I would be using the tu form. The Ud. Form would be 'levntese' and 'bjese. '.

Now, maybe 'culo' is okay in Colombia. It sure as hell is not in Argentina and other places I have been. I'm not saying it's incorrect, but I am saying it's rude, and I'm sticking with that. Colombia could be an exception.

'Cadera' is hips so would work fine. Hard to lift the hips without lifting the ass.

Similarly, in the parts of Latin America I've been to, which just about all of it, a woman with a big ass would be 'muy colona' and not 'muy culona.' This could also be an issue of social class, perhaps.

Hasideas Tao
10-03-16, 14:46
Nice guys, thanks for the varied responses.

Face down or sitting up are both good. So long as you can get that nice arch in the back and the ass sticking out.

I have said, "arquea tu espalda" but they usually dont get it. So then I have resorted to, levantate o sube su cola. (Lift your tail) Which they understand but often misses the "arch in the back" which is REALLY what I am really looking for.

I am sitting here practicing yoga moves trying to figure out how to describe the position i want to achieve. haha stick out your belly and pull your shoulder blades together.

I also agree that you need to start out easy before going at it too hard. Do what you can to get them more relaxed.

Maybe I should just bring a photo on my phone.

Surfer500
10-03-16, 17:09
No, they don't use it that way. However, let me correct something.

I wrote 'levntete' and 'bjete' and that is an inappropriate mix of the familiar tu form and the formal Ud. Form. It is the Ud. command with the informal reflexive pronoun. I think I was still waking up when I wrote that.

The correct familiar form would be 'levntate' and 'bjate' and if I were banging a hooker, I would be using the tu form. The Ud. Form would be 'levntese' and 'bjese. '.

Now, maybe 'culo' is okay in Colombia. It sure as hell is not in Argentina and other places I have been. I'm not saying it's incorrect, but I am saying it's rude, and I'm sticking with that. Colombia could be an exception.

'Cadera' is hips so would work fine. Hard to lift the hips without lifting the ass.

Similarly, in the parts of Latin America I've been to, which just about all of it, a woman with a big ass would be 'muy colona' and not 'muy culona.' This could also be an issue of social class, perhaps.Where on the same page here in that different words are used in Spanish speaking countries, like the word for peanuts used in Mexico is different in say the Dominican Republic and Colombia. I have a lot of respect for your knowledge of Spanish. I'm a work in progress ever so slowly. I've been attending Spanish classes at EAFIT in Medellin.

Surfer500
10-03-16, 17:13
Nice guys, thanks for the varied responses.

Face down or sitting up are both good. So long as you can get that nice arch in the back and the ass sticking out.

I have said, "arquea tu espalda" but they usually dont get it. So then I have resorted to, levantate o sube su cola. (Lift your tail) Which they understand but often misses the "arch in the back" which is REALLY what I am really looking for.

I am sitting here practicing yoga moves trying to figure out how to describe the position i want to achieve. haha stick out your belly and pull your shoulder blades together.

I also agree that you need to start out easy before going at it too hard. Do what you can to get them more relaxed.

Maybe I should just bring a photo on my phone.You should bring a short video, just make sure the girl in the video is shaven!

Dickhead
10-03-16, 20:50
Sigh. I see my attempt to correct my post fell victim to Jackson's completely awesome correcting software, which is the best correcting software in the world. Since it is the best, and cannot possibly be improved on, I will just say that I used the familiar pronoun with the formal command, and for that I should be dragged outside and shot.

Judd
10-03-16, 22:00
If you go to New Life and select Eveline (20 yr old spinner w / sandy blonde hair), all your doggy problems will be solved. She automatically arches her back in doggy, then, puts her head on the pillow. I chose her because she was cute and thought she'd have a little spunk. Boy did she. She liked that I was in shape, and kept flexing prior to our bang. We enjoyed our time wit one another. I gave her a 10 k tip because she made me laugh a couple of times wit her quirky mannerisms.

On Saturday round Noon, I hit the Centro casas with one of the Partners of the Mansion. We hit about six in all. I'll post all casa names once I can use my laptop (my cell phone can't open the Casa map.) I know Zandalay was the first one we went. We heard they had an improved lineup. On this day, there was about 10 chicas and none were all that great. We hit two more before Chicas. Puntos I think was the name. Pretty good lineup at dis place round 15 chicas. I chose a thicker one named Paola. Nice big REAL rack, and of course, a big round butt. Good provider. Cost was either 40 or 45 k for half hour.

Had lunch at Botanico next to New Life, then checked out their lineup. Best lineup of the day. If I wasn't drained from the earlier session would've took a tall sexy blonde that was working. The dude I was with chose a chica, but decided to leave since it was taking so long for the girl to "report" to the front. We ended up going to one last place. I'll confirm, but I think it was the one directly behind New Life. Another good lineup. Not nearly as strong as New Life, but a good selection nonetheless.

Probably hit San Diego club tonight. If anyone is interested shoot me a PM, and we can meet at Patrick's Pub in Lleras.

Late,

Judd.

Judd
10-04-16, 03:08
Paradise Spa was the last Casa we went to that I couldn't remember. It's located on Calle 54 #42-13. It's near the end of Calle 54 on the right side just before Carrera 42. This place had a pretty good lineup. The girls tended to be on the thicker side, but there were also some on the thin side. I didn't session, but I think it was 40 to 50 k for half hour. I'm going to check this place out tomorrow. I'll get the price firmed up as well as a better description of the chicas you can expect to see at dis place.

Late,

Judd.

CPlusPlus
10-04-16, 03:15
Nice guys, thanks for the varied responses.

Face down or sitting up are both good. So long as you can get that nice arch in the back and the ass sticking out.

I have said, "arquea tu espalda" but they usually dont get it. So then I have resorted to, levantate o sube su cola. (Lift your tail) Which they understand but often misses the "arch in the back" which is REALLY what I am really looking for.

I am sitting here practicing yoga moves trying to figure out how to describe the position i want to achieve. haha stick out your belly and pull your shoulder blades together.

I also agree that you need to start out easy before going at it too hard. Do what you can to get them more relaxed.

Maybe I should just bring a photo on my phone.Baja la espalda y subi el culo maybe? Idk but doggy style is one of those positions you have to somehow "work" for, with working girls I will not lie I do it, but mostly because its a very dominant position to have as a man, but it will be short lived, mostly just 5-10% of the service I do that position, as I clarify this mentality is solely for working girls, for my girlfriends, or non-pro chicks I am obligated to work and move my ass more, however I am in the mentality that a working girl got do 90% of the work!! She got to make every cent count, so mostly with working girls I am in the idea that I got to lay down stay idle or sitting down and she is the one that go to the miracles! A good head, being on top of me and riding me good and all that good stuff, as opposed to me having to move an inch.

Moore
10-04-16, 03:45
Great report.

Many thanks Judd.

Queens35
10-04-16, 04:03
She liked that I was in shape, and kept flexing prior to our bang.You mean she doesn't prefer fat guys? That's a keeper. You were flexing in front of the mirror? That's kind of gay IMO.


I gave her a 10 k tip because she made me laugh a couple of times wit her quirky mannerisms.Big tipper, she must've been oh so grateful of your tip. I would be embarrassed to tip 10 k. 30 k is my minimum.

I'm not trying to dis you but these statements in your report is hillarious.

Queens35
10-04-16, 04:12
No, they don't use it that way. However, let me correct something.

I wrote 'levntete' and 'bjete' and that is an inappropriate mix of the familiar tu form and the formal Ud. Form. It is the Ud. command with the informal reflexive pronoun. I think I was still waking up when I wrote that.

The correct familiar form would be 'levntate' and 'bjate' and if I were banging a hooker, I would be using the tu form. The Ud. Form would be 'levntese' and 'bjese. '.

Now, maybe 'culo' is okay in Colombia. It sure as hell is not in Argentina and other places I have been. I'm not saying it's incorrect, but I am saying it's rude, and I'm sticking with that. Colombia could be an exception.

'Cadera' is hips so would work fine. Hard to lift the hips without lifting the ass.

Similarly, in the parts of Latin America I've been to, which just about all of it, a woman with a big ass would be 'muy colona' and not 'muy culona.' This could also be an issue of social class, perhaps.Is the "a" key missing on your keyboard? The words are "levantate" and "bajate".

Culo is a somewhat offensive word in pretty much all of Latin America, when used to refer to backside. Culo would be used to directly mean asshole, as in I want to fuck you in the ass (Quiero cogerte en el culo), and even that is a bit strong.

Surfer500
10-04-16, 08:05
You mean she doesn't prefer fat guys? That's a keeper. You were flexing in front of the mirror? That's kind of gay IMO.

Big tipper, she must've been oh so grateful of your tip. I would be embarrassed to tip 10 k. 30 k is my minimum.

I'm not trying to dis you but these statements in your report is hillarious.Seems that a 30 K minimum tip at casa that charges only 45 k is a bit high.

The tip of 10 K was more than what most Colombians give the girls in the lower end casa's, hence the 10 K tip would of been a big tip for the girl.

I am guilty of giving large tips at times, sometimes even double what I am quoted, but this is with girls I meet on the street who blow me away and who I want to be with again.

Dickhead
10-04-16, 10:04
Is the "a" key missing on your keyboard? The words are "levantate" and "bajate".I need to be careful what I say here, but the problem is definitely not with my keyboard.

'ˇPara evitar el aborto coger por el orto!' Prepositions seldom translate word for word.

Black Page
10-04-16, 10:50
Culo is a somewhat offensive word in pretty much all of Latin America, when used to refer to backside.
Definitely.
However, the original request, which originated all this discussion, was not from a gentleman asking the hand of a countess and offering a bunch of flowers.
Words should be appropriate to the level of the interlocutors.

YippieKayay
10-04-16, 11:05
How do you guys typically get to casas in Medellin? They seem very spread out. Do you hire an hourly driver or just use public trans?

I can pass for a Colombian as long as I don't talk much. During the day is it pretty safe to use public transportation?

El Mechanico
10-04-16, 14:28
You were flexing in front of the mirror? That's kind of gay IMO..My thoughts exactly when I read that post. Really, you have to pose in front of a P4P girl? What did you expect her to do other than act like she was impressed? Insecurity at its finest.

El Mechanico.

Turgid
10-04-16, 14:44
She liked that I was in shape, and kept flexing prior to our bang.
Judd.This cracked me up. Very funny. Thanks for the report.

Mr Enternational
10-04-16, 15:30
How do you guys typically get to casas in Medellin? They seem very spread out. Do you hire an hourly driver or just use public trans?

I can pass for a Colombian as long as I don't talk much. During the day is it pretty safe to use public transportation?Walk. If it is too far then hop in a taxi. Why would you need people to believe you are Colombian?

YippieKayay
10-04-16, 15:33
Walk. If it is too far then hop in a taxi. Why would you need people to believe you are Colombian?Thanks. Now that I actually studied the map I can see how Centro is walkable and the other locations I can catch a ride to.

I meant if I walk around Centro I should pass for a Colombian and not stand out for a gringo. That's all.

Judd
10-04-16, 17:32
Yeah, that was me just like in the scene from "American Psycho". Sorry douche bags. I'm not quite that vain. It was HER that was flexing not me. In my post, I was trying to give an anecdote to show how funny and bubbly her attitude was towards me, and forgot to put in the word "she".

Thanks,

Judd.

The Tall Man
10-04-16, 18:15
How do you guys typically get to casas in Medellin? They seem very spread out. Do you hire an hourly driver or just use public trans?

I can pass for a Colombian as long as I don't talk much. During the day is it pretty safe to use public transportation?I travel Medellin in the metro. Yes the centro area is the hub of the casa's so once I am off the metro a simple and quick 15 minute walk gets to most of the casas.

And as for "fitting in" with Colombians, give it up, even with your mouth closed just the way we walk and our mannerisms give us away from 200 yards. I have a real problem at 6'-7" and pushing 300 pounds to fit in like a Colombian.

TTM.

Surfer500
10-04-16, 19:15
Definitely.
However, the original request, which originated all this discussion, was not from a gentleman asking the hand of a countess and offering a bunch of flowers.
Words should be appropriate to the level of the interlocutors.I think you have berated me Darth Vader!

Surfer500
10-04-16, 19:20
I travel Medellin in the metro. Yes the centro area is the hub of the casa's so once I am off the metro a simple and quick 15 minute walk gets to most of the casas.

And as for "fitting in" with Colombians, give it up, even with your mouth closed just the way we walk and our mannerisms give us away from 200 yards. I have a real problem at 6'-7" and pushing 300 pounds to fit in like a Colombian.

TTM.I'm sure some of us can pass for Colombians, at least I can as people sometimes come up to me and ask for directions. However as soon as I open my mouth, I'm not a gringo flying under the radar anymore.

YippieKayay
10-05-16, 01:13
I've gone back some 100 pages and couldn't find any detailed info on the p4 p in parque lleras. All I got so far is some hookers will be around after 9 pm.

Do they hang out in the bars? How do you tell if she's prepago usually? I've watched some youtube videos and that park looked crowded.

RedTibetan23
10-05-16, 01:24
Yeah, that was me just like in the scene from "American Psycho". Sorry douche bags. I'm not quite that vain. It was HER that was flexing not me. In my post, I was trying to give an anecdote to show how funny and bubbly her attitude was towards me, and forgot to put in the word "she".

Thanks,

Judd.The ribbing from a few guys on an innocent mistake was very funny. The fact you need to call guys douche bags because of your mistake and the ensuing comments is a bit telling. Lighten up.

CPlusPlus
10-05-16, 04:01
Yeah, that was me just like in the scene from "American Psycho". Sorry douche bags. I'm not quite that vain. It was HER that was flexing not me. In my post, I was trying to give an anecdote to show how funny and bubbly her attitude was towards me, and forgot to put in the word "she".

Thanks,

Judd.Whether or not you forgot to wrote she, it does not change the fact that you actually wrote a good report and instead of people acknowledging and thanking you for providing a good piece of info, people here actually just get off the main subject and do petty snipes and put downs, I for one thank you for the report, if I was in Medellin I would definitely hit that new life chick up, sounds like she was on point!


The ribbing from a few guys on an innocent mistake was very funny. The fact you need to call guys douche bags because of your mistake and the ensuing comments is a bit telling. Lighten up.I would say that too if that was only this occasion, but all these posts with personal attacks, put downs, petty arguments and RTFF posts are a very common phenomenon in this thread! And only in this Medellin thread! I have not seen another ISG thread where there is this level of hostility and douchebagness is as prevalent as here.


How do you guys typically get to casas in Medellin? They seem very spread out. Do you hire an hourly driver or just use public trans?

I can pass for a Colombian as long as I don't talk much. During the day is it pretty safe to use public transportation?You can use public trans, if you staying in Poblado take the metro and get off Parque Berrio, since you mentioned you have analyzed the map well you should be able to walk from casa to casa with no problem, daytime is super safe I would not worry much, as a matter of fact, save the puti maps that are here in this site to your smartphone and you can pull it out there no problem if you need it to guide you to the casas, I assure you that you can pull your phone out even if its an iPhone 7, if its daytime you will not be robbed! Everything will be good! I have walked around in el centro daytime pulling out my smartphone, walking around with a pair of expensive Jordans and drunk as hell and to this day I have not been robbed! Again only do this daytime, nighttime do not do that! Use taxi all the way!


I've gone back some 100 pages and couldn't find any detailed info on the p4 p in parque lleras. All I got so far is some hookers will be around after 9 pm.

Do they hang out in the bars? How do you tell if she's prepago usually? I've watched some youtube videos and that park looked crowded.That area got a good deal of semi pros, since you can't be 100% sure what chicks are P4P and which are not, the best thing to do is wait to get approached, that happened to me in one occasion, I went to that nightclub with some buddies of mine, the one that is above the Medellin Beer Factory (forgot the name) and I was drinking socializing, and a few girls approached us, the one that approached me I invited her to drinks thinking I am spitting game to her trying to flirt, grabbing her by the waist and body and as more drinks passed even made out with her, and funny thing as time goes by and I am thinking that I have this pussy set, she tells me that I am great, attractive and all that bullshit and then tells me she would like to go to my apartment and "divertirnos" I was like hell yeah, she was like "amor dame 400 mil, culiamos toda la noche" (my love give me 400 thousand and we can fuck all night), man my face went from happy to a glare, I got mad!! LOL I assumed that chick wanted the dick for free I told her hell no she saw how angry I was she even said "amor negociemos si quieres mas barato" I was like fuck that, the price was not half bad for TLN, but the fact that she put a price tag on herself made her such a turnoff LOL I did ended up getting some other free pussy at club Babylon, she was less attractive than the semi pro for sure but at least I convinced it with my mouth and not my wallet LOL but yeah no doubt that in Parque Lleras is filled with semi pros like that chick.

Surfer500
10-05-16, 04:23
I've gone back some 100 pages and couldn't find any detailed info on the p4 p in parque lleras. All I got so far is some hookers will be around after 9 pm.

Do they hang out in the bars? How do you tell if she's prepago usually? I've watched some youtube videos and that park looked crowded.If your at least middle aged or older and are an obvious gringo they will find you as long as you have your eyes open and are paying attention. Best nights are the weekends later in the evenings.

Black Page
10-05-16, 10:27
I think you have berated me Darth Vader!LOL not really berate. I just liked to see all this sophisticated discussion developing and I reminded what was the tone of the original request.

(I will be back there in one month. I wonder if my last taxi driver will be still working and with the same number, or I will have to identify another suitable one from Prado.).

Surfer500
10-05-16, 15:49
LOL not really berate. I just liked to see all this sophisticated discussion developing and I reminded what was the tone of the original request.

(I will be back there in one month. I wonder if my last taxi driver will be still working and with the same number, or I will have to identify another suitable one from Prado.).I'll be there the entire month of November, we could cruise around El Centro at 2 in the morning which as I recall is what you like to do when your there.

Surfer500
10-05-16, 15:58
You can use public trans, if you staying in Poblado take the metro and get off Parque Berrio, since you mentioned you have analyzed the map well you should be able to walk from casa to casa with no problem, daytime is super safe I would not worry much, as a matter of fact, save the puti maps that are here in this site to your smartphone and you can pull it out there no problem if you need it to guide you to the casas, I assure you that you can pull your phone out even if its an iPhone 7, if its daytime you will not be robbed! Everything will be good! I have walked around in el centro daytime pulling out my smartphone, walking around with a pair of expensive Jordans and drunk as hell and to this day I have not been robbed! Again only do this daytime, nighttime do not do that! Use taxi all the way!This is not good advice to have no fear of being robbed during the daytime in El Centro. Did it ever occur to you that someone or a group of thieves might follow you, seize the right moment and take all your stuff in all of ten seconds!

Hasideas Tao
10-05-16, 16:04
I think some of the ribbing and criticisms are silly and a waste of space that I would simply rather not read. So many posts get no responses, yet when someone makes a mistake or reveals a character flaw, IMHO that sucks way too much energy by others chiming in to what end? As if we take someone else's ignorance, personally. I really don't get it.

While I have the stage for a minute, as someone who spends a lot of time in Medellin, the thing that irks me is ignorant spending. But hey, if you want to "make it rain" enjoy. But IMHO, a little generosity puts you in a far better light. (someone back me up on this) The other thing about this board that sort of makes me have to bite my tongue is that you do not have to be a member to read the forums. So anonymity may be somewhat compromised.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion on the NL chica. Sounds promising. Furthermore, I suggest guys explore other areas outside of Poblado, save half your nightly rent or more, depending how adventurous you are, and use that money to go out and witness how far a little generosity goes in this city while still saving your hard earned money! When you call a FB girl to your Poblado crib, she will tend to think 150-200 plus taxi and give you standard gringo short time service. Anywhere else in the city, the terms are much more flexible and favorable! I have been lucky enough to meet many cool guys who take advantage of this concept and I wish I could meet more.

YippieKayay
10-05-16, 16:35
If your at least middle aged or older and are an obvious gringo they will find you as long as you have your eyes open and are paying attention. Best nights are the weekends later in the evenings.I'm in my 30's, and have a latino complexion, but I'll blurt out the occasional sentence in American English every time I'm near hotties then, haha.

Thanks for the tips.

Surfer500
10-05-16, 20:58
I'm in my 30's, and have a latino complexion, but I'll blurt out the occasional sentence in American English every time I'm near hotties then, haha..Hell your just a young whipper snapper and should be getting it for free. You shouldn't be in the "pay pool" like some of the old farts in this group like me!

SavePros321
10-05-16, 23:38
Hell your just a young whipper snapper and should be getting it for free. You shouldn't be in the "pay pool" like some of the old farts in this group like me!I've been noticing that the above line is what you older gents have been using to try to keep all the action to yourselves and keep the competition away (younger guys), LOL. Too much pussy out there for you guys to be trying to horde it all for yourselves. There is no set age range for men to start paying for pussy. If you've got the money, then you should use it to bang hotties.

To-date (early 30's myself), no matter how much free pussy I have gotten in the past, the hottest women I have every banged has all been paid pussy. I don't have to waste my time trying to "game" or bullshit my way into Kylee Jenner's pants when I can just cough up the doe to fuck her pro equivalent.

You know what's even more shocking? Compared to some of the women on Instagram, Kylee would be a 6 or 7 at best when stacked up against them. Shit, the chick to the right of her in the blue bikini looks like she is stacked even better!

RedTibetan23
10-05-16, 23:52
Let me say I am also very appreciative of the good report. And am sorry that I didn't note that. And I also have seen some people who post get nuclear bombs dropped on them for no good reason. As someone still relatively new at this, I have at times hesitated on posting for that very reason. That said, I didn't really see anything bombastic said and took it as good-natured ball-busting which I would've personally rolled with. But that's just me and my personality. Which I will freely admit is a bit flawed.

SavePros321
10-06-16, 00:17
I assure you that you can pull your phone out even if its an iPhone 7, if its daytime you will not be robbed! Everything will be good! I have walked around in el centro daytime pulling out my smartphone, walking around with a pair of expensive Jordans and drunk as hell and to this day I have not been robbed! Again only do this daytime, nighttime do not do that! Use taxi all the way!
This has to be the most reckless advice I have ever read in all my 9 years here on ISG. If you would not do this in the most ghetto-est of places in the US without fear of being fucked with, then why would you assume you could get away with it in a 3rd World country around people who absolutely have nothing to lose?

CPlusPlus
10-06-16, 01:20
This is not good advice to have no fear of being robbed during the daytime in El Centro. Did it ever occur to you that someone or a group of thieves might follow you, seize the right moment and take all your stuff in all of ten seconds!
This has to be the most reckless advice I have ever read in all my 9 years here on ISG. If you would not do this in the most ghetto-est of places in the US without fear of being fucked with, then why would you assume you could get away with it in a 3rd World country around people who absolutely have nothing to lose?See'Mon. Guys don't be over paranoid, you all starting to sound like the stuff that comes out of the America media "Fear ISIS, Fear Ebola, Fear Hurricane Matthew" bla bla, I mean in all seriousness if that cat is going to walk around in that area in el Centro where the casas are at or look for streetwalker action in Plaza Botero he should be fine, you guys got to remember its a commercial area with a lot of foot traffic, its not like he is going to be heading towards Barrio Triste or some shit like that. If I am not mistaken the main centro area is considered strato 3 neighborhood, so it is in the middle in terms of safety, strato 1 which I guess are the worst is more towards the comunas like San Javier, shitty areas of robledo or like I said Barrio Triste.

Queens35
10-06-16, 01:29
I meant if I walk around Centro I should pass for a Colombian and not stand out for a gringo. That's all.Hate to break it to you, but if you are not Colombian, you will never pass for a Colombian. They will mark you as a gringo from the get-go. There's nothing wrong with that, I just wanted to clarify your delusion. LOL.

Queens35
10-06-16, 01:33
I need to be careful what I say here, but the problem is definitely not with my keyboard.

'Para evitar el aborto coger por el orto!' Prepositions seldom translate word for word.Something about abortion and then my google translate blew up.

Queens35
10-06-16, 01:36
I assure you that you can pull your phone out even if its an iPhone 7, if its daytime you will not be robbed! Everything will be good! I have walked around in el centro daytime pulling out my smartphone, walking around with a pair of expensive Jordans and drunk as hell and to this day I have not been robbed! Again only do this daytime, nighttime do not do that! Use taxi all the way!Have you ever been to Colombia? Your advice will get somebody killed. This is why you can't believe most of what you read on public message boards.

Queens35
10-06-16, 01:39
However, the original request, which originated all this discussion, was not from a gentleman asking the hand of a countess and offering a bunch of flowers.
Words should be appropriate to the level of the interlocutors.So what you are saying is that a working girl doesn't deserve the same level of respect that a "normal" person would? They are just your personal cum buckets after all, right?

You can ask / request anything you want without being a bruto.

Surfer500
10-06-16, 01:40
I've been noticing that the above line is what you older gents have been using to try to keep all the action to yourselves and keep the competition away (younger guys), LOL. Too much pussy out there for you guys to be trying to horde it all for yourselves. There is no set age range for men to start paying for pussy. If you've got the money, then you should use it to bang hotties.

To-date (early 30's myself), no matter how much free pussy I have gotten in the past, the hottest women I have every banged has all been paid pussy. I don't have to waste my time trying to "game" or bullshit my way into Kylee Jenner's pants when I can just cough up the doe to fuck her pro equivalent.

You know what's even more shocking? Compared to some of the women on Instagram, Kylee would be a 6 or 7 at best when stacked up against them. Shit, the chick to the right of her in the blue bikini looks like she is stacked even better!What you have probably not thought of is that for us old farts trying to horde all that pussy, that back when we were your age, the Internet didn't exist along will all the ways to connect with women that's out there today. When I was in my thirties you had to basically meet women in person at bars, events, or thru friends. The Internet didn't exist and there was no ISG, Whatsapp, etc. To aide you.

I don't disagree with anything you've said, and wish the Internet and all the ways to meet people had been around when I was in my thirties. My life would of turned out to be quite a bit different than it has.

I'm sure some of the older farts on this forum will agree with this, and can better articulate this than I can to you young "whipper snappers"!

Combo
10-06-16, 02:28
So what you are saying is that a working girl doesn't deserve the same level of respect that a "normal" person would? They are just your personal cum buckets after all, right?

You can ask / request anything you want without being a bruto.Strawman argument. Using the word "culo" when two adults are naked is hardly disrespecting a working girl. Some of these girls certainly deal with legitimate disrespect. This doesn't qualify. In fact, most would laugh at the idea.

Judd
10-06-16, 02:42
Went to New Life yesterday. I took a newbie whom I met a couple of days ago in the Provenza area of Poblado. We got their around 2:30 in the PM. Very good lineup of around 15 to 20 chicas. When the presentation was done, we both wanted the same chica named Anna. She was a hot Paisa looking chica with Green eyes, if I'm not mistaken. Being the dude's first time, I withdrew my first choice, and went with Susana. Unfortunately, "Pablo" in the next room had chose her as well. My third choice was Karla. She was tall, young, and tanned with long black hair. Unlike Eveline from the previous day, she gave very lackluster service. I got a few "tu pene es rico", but that was about it. Ironically, when we got into doggie, she was very specific with her positioning. I wasn't too thrilled about that. However, I'm not going to be a douchebag, and force her into doing something that she's not into. I continued to bang her, but lost my enthusiasm for her. I made up some excuse that I was tired, and decided to try another chica.

For my second session, I hastily picked a chica named Estephany. It was too bad because after I picked her a monster appeared with a huge ass, and tits. Now this chica had a great attitude, but her body was F-the up from some bad surgery. I tried to power thru the shortcomings with her body, but just couldn't produce a nutt. I gave her the old "it's not you it's me" line. After that, we walked down to Plaza Botero, and checked out the Lesbians in the square.

I went to San Diego a week ago last Tuesday. Since that was my first night in MDE, I chose the first big ass that appealed to me. I got there around 10:30 in the PM. There was about 20 to 30 chicas. The selection didn't seem as strong as when I was in MDE last March. This could've been due to the day I went since most of the times I went on my last trip were Thu-Sat. I chose a tall, black hair chica who seemed to have what I was looking for. I'm sorry, but I forgot her name. She seemed cool, and asked for 150 for half hour. I accepted, and we went back to the bang rooms. Nice big bolt ONS, and that Colombian ass! She started off by giving me a nice Titty fuck, then, preceded to give a wonderful blow job. She was really into the hard bang. I did my best to oblige, but was not the bull I was in the past since I haven't built up my fuck stamina. I had an epic jerk on her ass, then, went to store on the corner for some tasty BBQ chicken.

With regards to my previous post. After it was posted, I realized what I said was ambiguous, could be construed negatively, but forgot to edit. As expected on this board, those in peanut seats, voiced their distaste. Not a big deal. Here's the key takeaway. Regardless of what's said, I'm here gettin my nutt off on a semi-daily basis with hot babes for the cost of a movie tix to "The Secret Life of Pets". It's all good in my book.

Cheers!

Judd.

Dickhead
10-06-16, 03:01
Something about abortion and then my google translate blew up.Ja ja. Now try running 'listo caballero' through your translator.

Judd
10-06-16, 04:17
Here's my review of the famous Mansion. I stayed at M2. True to prior reports, the walk up from M1, while not very far, is straight uphill. A great way to burn some additional calories, but will be a nuisance for those heavy set dudes. As I stated before, the accommodations at M2, I think my room was 106, was very basic. The internet connection worked okay the first night, was out most of the 2nd night, and somewhat slow (I stream Netflix) on my last night. Hot water was out for two nights, but you could still shower as the water was by no means really cold. The bed was just okay, and the AC worked great. Couldn't find the remote for the TV, but I don't need to watch 24 hours of Goal TV or movies dubbed in Spanish. M2 has a nice common area with large sliding glass doors overlooking the pool. Couple of tables out there where you can enjoy a cold beer. The other cool thing are the rooms don't seem to be all packed together in one area. The area is really quiet at night.

Last Saturday, I was looking forward to hanging out at M1, and shooting the shit with the other dudes as I heard it was a "Frat House" type environment. That was not the impression I got when I looked around the common and pool area. It reminded of the presentation area at New Life where dudes are all sitting in separate areas. Maybe it was me, but I just didn't get a good vibe, and decided to hang in Poblado. Went back around 12:00 in the AM when the bar was open. Same thing. A couple of dudes sitting by themselves, and one small group that was partying having a good time. There was maybe two or three chicas out of about 20 that I would do, but even those ones were just okay. Finished my beer and got the hell out of that place. I did go to the bar area round 8:00 in the PM on Friday. At that time, the chicas seemed to be a little more mature than the one's I saw the next night. I'm not sure if the ones that were there earlier take off later, or are upstairs bangin clients, but the selection is definitely better in the early evening.

The coolest part of my mansion experience was hanging out with one of the Partners of the place. He was really cool, and took me on a Casa run on Saturday. In his words, the mansion isn't for everyone. I agree. It's really a place for those who need to be spoon fed chicas. The other positive is, obviously, you're not going to catch any grief for bringing chicas back to your room.

Some other things to note. Your first night has to be put on a credit card, thus, no way to get the cash discount rate. Also, you do pay and added tax on the room every night unlike the hotels which delete their tax. Some bullshit about the hotel being over 10 yrs old. Not a big deal, but both of these things does add to the overall cost of the rooms. The weekend I was at the Mansion, there was a countrywide ban alcohol due to the Sunday FARC vote. That could've been the reason why the talent wasn't that great at the bar on Saturday Night.

I'm glad I had a chance to check this place out, but it's not for me.

Late,

Judd.

Lefeu
10-06-16, 04:55
Have you ever been to Colombia? Your advice will get somebody killed. This is why you can't believe most of what you read on public message boards.I agree! This is silly, an invitation to get mugged and possibly harmed.

Judd
10-06-16, 05:00
For the next two weeks, I'll be staying at the Novelty Suites Hotel. This Hotel is located almost directly on the other side of Poblado St. From the Mansion. It's about a block away and on the same side as the Oviedo Mall. So far, this place is damn near perfect when you factor in the cost vs amenities. Daily price is 193 k all in. This particular room is a suite (separate living and bedroom). The living room has a good size fridge, two burner stove, microwave, table and chairs, and a balcony. The bedroom features a fairly comfortable bed with plenty of pillows, TV with Direct TV, small walk-in closet wit a safe, plenty of outlets for hooking your shit up, and very fast Wifi. While the shower is a bit dated, that showerhead will give you a fuckin enema if you're not careful. While I haven't checked it out, there's a bar on the top floor as well as a small exercise room + sauna. They, also, provide a free membership to a separate gym called "Gimnasio Santillana". While this gym isn't to the level of our gyms in the States or the Bodytechs in MDE, it has everything you need to get a good workout in.

Dudes work at night so I'm thinking its probably chica friendly. In MDE, I prefer to not bring chicas back to my room especially the streetwalkers. With that being said, I did notice some decent talent around Lleras Park last Thursday Night that I may want to make a run at. I already started greasin the desk clerk by bringing him a plate of food the other night.

I'll let you know what happens.

Late,

Judd.

Judd
10-06-16, 05:07
Almost forgot. Request a room in the back of the Hotel facing the Oviedo Mall. There's a high rise being built on the same street as the Hotel. If you're like me, and like to sleep late, being at the front of the Hotel would probably suck.

YippieKayay
10-06-16, 08:41
I own a Nexus 6 phone. Are Nano sims available in Medellin? Those are the smallest sim cards I believe.


Hell your just a young whipper snapper and should be getting it for free. You shouldn't be in the "pay pool" like some of the old farts in this group like me!I've yet to visit a casa or strip club in Latin America but I am determined to follow in the footsteps of GringoItaliano so I may end up hitting Isis in Cartagena and trying some of that chunky Colombian ass he wrote about.

Otherwise I've been sticking to pros / semi-pros whom I pick up and pretend are my girlfriends.

Black Page
10-06-16, 11:43
Otherwise I've been sticking to pros / semi-pros whom I pick up and pretend are my girlfriends.It will work if you are handsome like Brad Pitt.

Black Page
10-06-16, 11:52
I mean in all seriousness if that cat is going to walk around in that area in el Centro where the casas are at or look for streetwalker action in Plaza Botero he should be fine, you guys got to remember its a commercial area with a lot of foot traffic,.............


daytime is super safe I would not worry much, as a matter of fact, save the puti maps that are here in this site to your smartphone and you can pull it out there no problem if you need it to guide you to the casas, I assure you that you can pull your phone out even if its an iPhone 7, if its daytime you will not be robbed! Everything will be good! I have walked around in el centro daytime pulling out my smartphone, walking around with a pair of expensive Jordans and drunk as hell and to this day I have not been robbed! .A plain case of trollism, or an Alice in Wonderland who has been lucky so far.

For those who plan to go to Medellin for their first time: DON'T DO THAT.

Stroll around the Centro daytime without being paranoid, relax, but if you show off your iPhone7 or Rolex you are just playing Russian Roulette. There is some people who could kill for 50 USD in some places around there. The percentage of such people is small compared to the 2 M people living in Medellin, but cross the path with one of them, and you signed your destiny.

The Golden Rule is: the less you are noticed, the better it is.

Black Page
10-06-16, 11:55
So what you are saying is that a working girl doesn't deserve the same level of respect that a "normal" person would? They are just your personal cum buckets after all, right?
You can ask / request anything you want without being a bruto.Exactly the opposite as you say. I was just making IRONY. I did not appreciate at all the tone of the original question, neither some of the following comments. My approach to ladies, working or not, is different.

Sometimes, I make the mistake to be too subtle or choose wrong words.

Black Page
10-06-16, 12:04
I'll be there the entire month of November, we could cruise around El Centro at 2 in the morning which as I recall is what you like to do when your there.That was NOT THE ONLY thing I did when I was there, neither I plan to focus my effort mainly on streets after midnight this time. We could meet for a beer. Hunting is more a hobby for lonely wolves. Don't you agree?

(But yes I wish my last trusted taxi driver is still around. I already lost contact with Diego* and the loss was impossible to recover).

* You should go back 1 year or more to read the story. He was the black big driver with gold chain who drove me around the Centro after midnight several times, the one who was driving the autopista the time the street girl was blowing me in the back of the taxi, the one who another time drove me around after picking up HIS girlfriend, who had a lot of fun when I showed him the tits of my street girl (the same) on the back seat "MIRA LO TIENE DURO! ATREVIDO!

SavePros321
10-06-16, 12:26
What you have probably not thought of is that for us old farts trying to horde all that pussy, that back when we were your age, the Internet didn't exist along will all the ways to connect with women that's out there today. When I was in my thirties you had to basically meet women in person at bars, events, or thru friends. The Internet didn't exist and there was no ISG, Whatsapp, etc. To aide you.

I don't disagree with anything you've said, and wish the Internet and all the ways to meet people had been around when I was in my thirties. My life would of turned out to be quite a bit different than it has.

I'm sure some of the older farts on this forum will agree with this, and can better articulate this than I can to you young "whipper snappers"!Internet has been both gift and curse. You grew up in a time were the women you met did not live in an alternate reality of Instagram, Facebook "likes", or Tinder. Actually, when I was coming up cell phones were not even popular until well after I had graduated high school. I had probably never send a text message until 2005 or 2006. Women were much less "cunty" back then. You didn't have to get her to lower her phone away from her face to acknowledge you like you do today. If you had a fight with your girlfriend that evening, she did not have the option to open an app and "swipe left, swipe right" until she found some strange dick she could hop on 30 minutes later.

I agree with you how the Internet has been very helpful though. Had I not been curiously googling "What do Dominican women look like" back 2007 I would have never come across this forum. I didn't even know P4 P without the possibility of being jailed was even an option outside of the US! More importantly, just as it gave women more options (24/7 admiration from thirsty dudes, a handful of swinging dicks to choose from within a 5 mile radius), it gave us a WORLD of options (Information! Which holds more weight than gold if used correctly).

I truly would have still been lost without a forum like this. Interstingly, we are more than likely the "one percent". The rest of the 99% of guys aren't "woke", thinking their only options are to put up with an aging land whale who he's working himself to death to support her and kids that hate his guts.

ShooBree
10-06-16, 13:12
Strawman argument. Using the word "culo" when two adults are naked is hardly disrespecting a working girl. Some of these girls certainly deal with legitimate disrespect. This doesn't qualify. In fact, most would laugh at the idea.I can simply echo this sentiment, I've always used the word culo and my Spanish colleague says that its the normal word to use but trasero would indicate good education.

To be grosero or bruto you should say saca de mierda.

But maybe the Colombian Spanish is totally different from castellano Spanish.

Hasideas Tao
10-06-16, 13:54
Sure all this social media available to us now provides many ways of communication. Perhaps on the surface, it seems more comfortable and even less expensive than the old days of having to go out and actually make face to face conversation. However, facebook sucks. Its ok for people you are actually friends with. But trying to meet girls. Uysh what a waste of time!. IT is amazing to me, being that there are so many ways to get in contact with a person, that you can have numerous conversations, getting to know a little about her, making a plan, only to find at the last minute she goes MIA. But its my fault letting myself get sucked in. The sexy photos serve as very tempting advertising and have created a new type of working girl. The attention working girl! Problem is you don't know until you have already wasted your time and energy.

Happened just recently to me. I commented on some horse back riding photos and after maybe two brief facebook conversations this chica was ready to take an hour and a half bus ride with me to go horseback riding. I was the one to literally put on the brakes and say, hey why don't I invite you for sushi tomorrow first just to get to know you. The next afternoon, she even confirmed via whatsapp with, "claro que si lindo. Muah. A q horas?" Finally 2 hours before I gave her a call to confirm the details. She wanted to change to a place closer to where she lives but then said ok to my suggestion but wanted to make it an hour later. I could sense an apprehensive tone. I said I will message you with the address. Pooof! Gone! NO response, did not answer her phone again, no "I can't make it," no lame excuse, just poof! I could even see that for several hours she had only 1 check mark indicating the message had not yet been delivered to her phone.

My point here is not only to vent. But what the fuck? How inconsiderate can a person be? What is going on in this situation is a mystery to me and I find it happens often when trying to set something up with girls I have never met on facebook. I have heard every lame excuse in the book and even still. Sometimes they think they are making an excuse but in fact, coming from the first world and having dealt with educated people all my life. It isn't even an excuse. It's just stupidity, laziness or disrespect. Many times I have had to say to girls who I already know. A simple message letting me know you can't make it makes ALLLLLL the problems go away. IT is a matter of consideration and respect. The hypocrisy of it all, on the rare occasion I cancel on a date, more often than not I get black balled with either a swift "blocked or unfriend" and sometimes even a nasty response.

Nothing is going to change. The women have the pussy and we want it. I guess the only thing that can change is my level of self respect by not accepting this behavior and figuring out a way to be upfront and polite about my expectations and that any disrespect will not be forgiven.

Anyone who has had great success on FB. I would be very curious to get an outline of how they build up to the meet.

World Travel 69
10-06-16, 14:54
They sell the big card, but it has perforations in it to break it down to the smaller sim. At least Movistar has it, that I know of.


I own a Nexus 6 phone. Are Nano sims available in Medellin? Those are the smallest sim cards I believe.

I've yet to visit a casa or strip club in Latin America but I am determined to follow in the footsteps of GringoItaliano so I may end up hitting Isis in Cartagena and trying some of that chunky Colombian ass he wrote about.

Otherwise I've been sticking to pros / semi-pros whom I pick up and pretend are my girlfriends.

SavePros321
10-06-16, 15:03
Sure all this social media available to us now provides many ways of communication. Perhaps on the surface, it seems more comfortable and even less expensive than the old days of having to go out and actually make face to face conversation. However, facebook sucks. Its ok for people you are actually friends with. But trying to meet girls. Uysh what a waste of time!. IT is amazing to me, being that there are so many ways to get in contact with a person, that you can have numerous conversations, getting to know a little about her, making a plan, only to find at the last minute she goes MIA. But its my fault letting myself get sucked in. The sexy photos serve as very tempting advertising and have created a new type of working girl. The attention working girl! Problem is you don't know until you have already wasted your time and energy.

Happened just recently to me. I commented on some horse back riding photos and after maybe two brief facebook conversations this chica was ready to take an hour and a half bus ride with me to go horseback riding. I was the one to literally put on the brakes and say, hey why don't I invite you for sushi tomorrow first just to get to know you. The next afternoon, she even confirmed via whatsapp with, "claro que si lindo. Muah. A q horas?" Finally 2 hours before I gave her a call to confirm the details. She wanted to change to a place closer to where she lives but then said ok to my suggestion but wanted to make it an hour later. I could sense an apprehensive tone. I said I will message you with the address. Pooof! Gone! NO response, did not answer her phone again, no "I can't make it," no lame excuse, just poof! I could even see that for several hours she had only 1 check mark indicating the message had not yet been delivered to her phone.
I love that analogy of the "Attention working girl"! I will have to use that one more often.

The trick for making Facebook work is having an abundance mentality. Never get yourself fixated on one single chica. I have an upwards of 400+ chica "friends" on FB and every now and then I go pruning:

-Like most guys here I click the "like" button on chicas that post slutty pics, if only to encourage them to post more (It's an interesting phenomenon actually: chicas (including their gringa counterparts) are basically giving away for free something even an average glamour model would normally get paid for. It's a new kind of whoring). It's an attention addiction to them. The more likes they get for a photo of them half naked, the more of those kinds of photos she will post. Free advertising for me, as I do not have to guess to hard as to what said chica would look like naked.

-Closer to my trip I start making contact with any new FB chica friends I have gained, or ones I did not have enough time to get around to on previous trips. This is the preliminary stage to start weeding out chicks you have been spending "Like" currency on. If I send a simple "Hola, como estas?" And get any of the following back as a response:

--A simple "Thumbs up" (👍). It is like a polite way of telling you to "fuck off"

--A "Hola, bien" (she does not add "y tu?")

--I see she has read my message but does not respond.

--She hasn't read my message in day despite me seeing she has been online multiple times within a day.

I just unfriend and block them. This group of girls you are absolutely wasting your time on, and you should deny them any further attention from you going forward.

-On the ground: prior to arriving a start setting up dates. I usually have about 20+ chicks in-scope going in, and maybe only get around to about 10-13 because I like to repeat with certain chicks that really do it for me. So once there I start going through my list. Chica not responding on FB or whatsapp? On to the next one. Chica says she will be there by x-time and is a no-show? On to the next one. Chica needs to reschedule? Cool, I reschedule and bump up the Chica I had coming behind her to a new time slot, or I hit up the next one on the list.

Again, to summarize my post, abundance is key. Like you mentioned in your post, "we want to fuck them. " Well, they also want our money. And there are way too many of them to fuck them all. That's why you should never get fixated on just one Chica. I used to also get upset when getting my hopes up over any one Chica that I wanted to fuck so badly, only to be ignored by said chica when it came time to see about setting something up. THE one true way to cure yourself of this "oneitis" is to just block the broad and have her out of sight, out of mind. You would be devastated if all you had was this one chick as an option, but unlike here in Sex Prison (USA), you end up having too many options to explore.

Hope this helps!

Oh, and P.S. Any chicas that are currently FB friends and have their status turn to "engaged" or "married" gets excommunicated from the list as well. Withdraw your attention because you will be ignored trying to get at her. This has even happened to chicas I have fucked bareback on multiple occasions. Once they get into the "wife mode" you will become just another one of her FB or Instagram admirers. You may even find that you get blocked or unfriended by her if you wait long enough, as she goes about trying to cast off any ties to her "former life".

Chicas with a new "Colombianos Novio of the Moment", you can wait those girls out. The following month she will be single again 9 times out of 10. Those brothas (Colombianos) do "pump and dump" like it should be done, lmao!

Surfer500
10-06-16, 17:35
The trick for making Facebook work is having an abundance mentality. Never get yourself fixated on one single chica. I have an upwards of 400+ chica "friends" on FB and every now and then I go pruning:!I signed up for Tinder a few weeks ago and have been experimenting with it. Being the old ugly fart that I am my responses have been limited and there does not appear to be many Chicas on Tinder in Colombia either. I Tried it at home in the States and was surprised as to how many likes I got and chatted with a few women who seemed to be desperate but I have no interest in. I started my experiment in the US to figure out how it worked before setting the location to Medellin. For the Colombian women that have responded it has been deceptive. One gave me her Whatsapp number and when I asked for photo's of her besides her face and got them I didn't like what I saw so unmatched her. Thus far I have matched with three other Colombian women and sent them messages. One responded right away and the other two a day later. Then last night I was contacted by two of them and conversing with them at the same time, etc. Lots of questions where are you from, oh you speak Spanish, what you doing etc and they stopped typing for whatever reason. My bet is I will hear from them later on.

One woman in the US told me that she had been on Tinder for six months, was attractive but older, had only two dates, and said that two men she met in person had lied about their height. She said she considered Tinder to be just for chatting with people, at least that was her take on it in the US. I suspect the same might be true in Colombia as well.

I'm going to keep trying Tinder in Medellin, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while so maybe something will happen.

In the meantime when I arrive in Medellin next month I'm going to hit the streets of El Centro as I will do better with immediate results as I have in the past.

Fun Luvr
10-06-16, 18:06
Anyone who has had great success on FB. I would be very curious to get an outline of how they build up to the meet.I have had really good success with Facebook. Probably can't call it great success because there have been two or three chicas who I have not been able to meet. I do not have any build up to the meet. After I become friends with them, I ask if they want to meet me when I visit. If they say yes, then I tell them I will be staying in an apartment, and the area of the apartment. I do not discuss doing anything, especially outside the apartment. Since I am almost three times the age of most of the chicas I contact, I think they know what I want. Very seldom, probably less than five times in more than 200 meetings, have I had a chica flake on me after we agree on a time for her to come to my apartment.

I think most of the chicas are happy to know they can get paid without having to spend hours going to restaurants and clubs. If they want to go out after we have had our intimate time together, I am usually agreeable to that. Many of the chicas have at least one child, so they have a limited window of opportunity to play.

As to the "engaged" and "married" chicas, unless they have posted photos to show those events, I ignore those descriptions. The power of money is usually stronger than the bonds between them. Some of the hottest women I have been with have been "engaged" or "married". Maybe they don't get as much strange as the other chicas!

Hasideas Tao
10-06-16, 18:16
A lot of great points. Thank you!

In that first line and in some other places, it is not what I wrote. Some words I guess are taboo and get automatically substituted.

Thanks for insight to your M. O. You are right about getting fixated. Sometimes, like in the example I gave from my date yesterday, I was like WOW! She is so fucking hot and I get hooked. Even though she was comunicating pretty well up to setting the details of the date I will probably see if she has at least a half lame excuse before I unfriend her. But by now I should be able to identify her has one of those that are a waste of time. I have not done any FB pruning in a while. And I must say, last time I did it, it was quite satisfying.

Way back when. I had a girl explain to me tweeting and instagram, posting photos, likes, followers and whatnot. And her eyes literally lit up when she specifically said. When someone likes my photo, it makes me feel good.

So anyways. Are you disciplined enough that you treat all potential meet ups more or less the same based on their responses and nothing to do with level of hotness? LOL Come on, we all give the hotter girl a little more benefit of the doubt.


I love that analogy of the "Attention working girl"! I will have to use that one more often.

Hasideas Tao
10-06-16, 18:22
Very seldom, probably less than five times in more than 200 meetings, have I had a chica flake on me after we agree on a time for her to come to my apartment.

The power of money is usually stronger than the bonds between them. Some of the hottest women I have been with have been "engaged" or "married". Maybe they don't get as much strange as the other chicas! :)4 out of 200? I think that is pretty incredible! Especially if you are talking about girls you have not met prior. Are you promising a better than average tip?

SavePros321
10-06-16, 19:19
So anyways. Are you disciplined enough that you treat all potential meet ups more or less the same based on their responses and nothing to do with level of hotness? LOL Come on, we all give the hotter girl a little more benefit of the doubt.The hotter, well let me re-phrase that, the more she knows how hot you think she is (if you are acting like a thirsty dude who's contact and responses to her literally scream "I can't believe something this hot is actually giving me the time of day!"), then she knows she has you under her thumb and can you to do whatever she wants.

Oh, I don't feel like meeting him today. I can just cancel and not even tell him why because I know a simple "Hola" and kisses emoji tomorrow will have him blowing up my inbox again. Hey, he thinks I am so hot that I probably can get him to apologize for daring to ask why I did not return his messages!

Here is my strategy that has served me well since I literally "level up" in terms of scoring a Chica hotter than I have ever had in previous trips: I set everything up, and I then assume it is not going to happen until this babe is standing ass naked in front of me with me with her lips wrapped around my dick.

That's all there is to it! 😁. Having a bit of a poker face will serve you well despite feeling like a kid in candy store. You should never let a hot chick know she's "got you".

YippieKayay
10-06-16, 20:30
My point here is not only to vent. But what the fuck?Colombians (especially in informal relationships) would rather flake, deny, or completely ignore you than use the word "no" and cause offense. So instead of telling you she can't make it. She just stopped responding.

Also these chicas represent an extreme subculture in Colombia. Many of them have mental health problems like Borderline Personality disorder where they do shit like manipulate and lie compulsively. I remember this one girl I was seeing for a while, she was in her early 20's, and she told her family that I was her business partner. I laughed so hard when I was facebook messaging with her uncle who told me he was surprised she had so many business connections in North America!

Si, es negocio muuuy bien senior.

Don't take this shit personally. The fewer shits you give the more these girls want you (typically). That and the size of your wallet helps.

Fun Luvr
10-06-16, 20:43
4 out of 200? I think that is pretty incredible! Especially if you are talking about girls you have not met prior. Are you promising a better than average tip?That is more than 200 meetings with fifty-some chicas. So it is 50-some first time meetings. Only a few times, even with new chicas, have I discussed what amount I will give them. Most of the time I tell them I will pay the taxi when they arrive. I always have small gifts (Victoria Secret things, chocolates) for the ones I like. I pay 150 mil plus one taxi fare. Many of them, I will give an extra 10 to 40 mil. Only two chicas that I give more than 200 mil unless it is a TLN. I think the key to my success is that I allow the chica to choose the time of day that is best for them. I normally plan two to five days in advance, so I make my schedule subject to the availability of the chicas. Most sessions are about two hours in my apartment.

Fun Luvr
10-06-16, 20:51
I remember this one girl I was seeing for a while, she was in her early 20's, and she told her family that I was her business partner. I laughed so hard when I was facebook messaging with her uncle who told me he was surprised she had so many business connections in North America!If you are paying her for sex, that is a business arrangement which makes you her business partner. Sounds like a pretty smart chica to me.

Goatscrot
10-07-16, 01:14
I've been noticing that the above line is what you older gents have been using to try to keep all the action to yourselves and keep the competition away (younger guys), LOL. Too much pussy out there for you guys to be trying to horde it all for yourselves. There is no set age range for men to start paying for pussy. If you've got the money, then you should use it to bang hotties.

To-date (early 30's myself), no matter how much free pussy I have gotten in the past, the hottest women I have every banged has all been paid pussy. I don't have to waste my time trying to "game" or bullshit my way into Kylee Jenner's pants when I can just cough up the doe to fuck her pro equivalent.

You know what's even more shocking? Compared to some of the women on Instagram, Kylee would be a 6 or 7 at best when stacked up against them. Shit, the chick to the right of her in the blue bikini looks like she is stacked even better!All the gals in the pic look fat to me.

Hasideas Tao
10-07-16, 02:24
Here is my strategy that has served me well since I literally "level up" in terms of scoring a Chica hotter than I have ever had in previous trips: I set everything up, and I then assume it is not going to happen until this babe is standing ass naked in front of me with me with her lips wrapped around my dick. I have similar mindset in that with many new chicas I expect them to flake. Many times, I double book. It has worked out well for me many many times but honestly, the juggling is kind of stressful. I guess for that reason, I stick to what I know is good and repeat. That and I actually like to know who I am getting psyched up for and not just whoever finally shows up. LOL. I would be curios to know Funlvrs taste with his great track record. I have a friend with a fantastic track record, but the majority of his chicas are not anyone I would choose. If he was fishing in the same pond as me, he says he wouldn't fish there. He'd rather have a chubby fun girl than a pain in the ass stunner. I kind of agree. To a certain point. I am going to make some huge generalizations here but here goes. In my score book, looks wise, I tend to stick to 6's 7's and 8's. I realize that my 8 can be someone elses 6 and even someone I thought was an 8 after I have been with her a few times seems to me to be a 6 LOL. Again, generally, it seems like the higher the number they start out at the more difficult they are. LOL You are absolutely correct that your poker face gets better quality girls. And my poker face is stone cold after I had a good time with a 8, 9 or 10. It comes in waves. Maintaining a high level is what I am after. I must keep reminding myself to be upfront about my ground rules and then stick to them. Thats why I have been writing here lately. To clarify my own ideas.

IT was also mentioned that a lot of these girls have borderline personality disorders. I totally completely 100% agree. A lot of them. The crazy shit I have heard, seen been acused of..... when i can no longer fuck I will write a book about it. haha I just seem to keep forgetting that most of them are nuts, until I get bit again. I guess that is my own disorder. Aka dumb.

SavePros321
10-07-16, 03:01
All the gals in the pic look fat to me.You could DEFINITELY be wingman then, lmao! No competing interests there whatsoever 👍👍.

Lowkey1
10-07-16, 04:25
Just got back from the Mansion. It is the same as usual there. I did notice there is this gross super pale white chick with glasses there that's kinda fat and she was there EVERY NIGHT. She was there last time I was there about 9 months ago as well. The whole allure of going there is different girls every night with the exception of one or two chicks that are cool and don't sweat you the second you pay them. The problem with them coming back every night is that you have this feeling of guilt when you don't choose a second round with a girl you had fun with. Then they get all salty. Cindy is famous for this. If you take her once she is shitty with you if you choose another girl. The selection was great this time with 10-20 chicks per night all week. But I must say the guests at the Mansion are getting to be cheap and gross. When you go to an already cheap spot why beat these girls up over a drink or what not? I seen guys go there for days and not take any girls? The girls are starting get burned out with guys not wanting to spend money. I have been there a couple times and the mood has shifted. Has anyone had luck with the bar tender? She is smoking hot. I also got the massage girl Louise I think? She was available for whatever you wanted. She seemed to turn down the older guys though. But she is super cool decent english and a great time plus a good massage. As far as the girls coming to the Mansion Every night there were a few good ones. The best one I had was Isabella, real super tiny chick that aimed to please. I took her first night and she was pleasant every time I was down in the bar and choose another girl.

I went to New energy. Line up was ehhhh. Went with one for the heck of it and it was ok. I hate the upset there.

Went to Mayarista. Well it reminds me of La Revolution in Tijuana. Few diamonds in the rough and cheap drinks. Why not.

I am SUPER curious on the Bartender if anyone has gotten that. I feel like its not on the menu but I didn't exactly try super hard.

I did use Tinder but the girls seem to take FOREVER to reply so its not the quickest options.

I heard there was another hotel similar to Mansion there but I never found it. I love the atmosphere and the Frat like brotherhood. Would kill to find another place like it in Colombia or anywhere for that matter. Anyone have any insight on that?

Judd
10-07-16, 06:07
I was just chillin having dinner on Carrera 43 right below where the Mansion is located. Finished dinner, and decided to head to MickyD's for an ice cream when I heard a heavy metal band playing at Hard Rock's new location next to Starbucks. This band was fucking ripping! They sounded awesome like a Colombian Metallica. Turns out it was Ekhymosis, the famous Colombian band started by Juanes. What a treat to see these guys play.

Pretty cool stuff!

Late,

Judd.

El Mechanico
10-07-16, 14:41
I am having trouble inserting my comments to your post so I deleted the open & close quotes & simply cut & pasted the whole thing, I hope this works!!

Gross super pale white chick with glasses there that's kinda fat and she was there EVERY NIGHT.

I saw her there every day / night in July. She didn't seem to fit in!!

If you take her once she is shitty with you if you choose another girl.

I sessioned with 6 different 'Mansion' girls & never got this feeling but I know what you are talking about!!

But I must say the guests at the Mansion are getting to be cheap and gross. That wasn't me!

When you go to an already cheap spot why beat these girls up over a drink or what not? Because if you buy them one then their friend wants one then they want a pizza and hamburger, then the cracked crab and the Lobster after that!!

I seen guys go there for days and not take any girls? For sure a strange mixture of mongers!!

The girls are starting get burned out with guys not wanting to spend money. Those guys will quickly isolate themselves & the girls won't bother with them after a rejection or 2.

Has anyone had luck with the bar tender? She is smoking hot. She seemed angry & pissed off the first several times I met her, at the bar downstairs & at the 4th of July Party, which was on the 3rd of July on a Sunday. The party is held on the Sunday before the 4th from what I understand. At the party, she introduced me to 2 of her very portly friends that were "NOT MANSION GIRLS! And told me something to the effect that they were her friends & I should treat them nicely! Uhh OK, have I done anything to lead you to believe I would treat them otherwise? Wow! Really?

I also got the massage girl Louise I think? She was available for whatever you wanted. She seemed to turn down the older guys though. Apparently, by your definition, I am not an older guy, 56 yo. Thanks, hahaha.

But she is super cool decent English and a great time plus a good massage. As far as the girls coming to the Mansion Every night there were a few good ones. The best one I had was Isabella, real super tiny chick that aimed to please. I took her first night and she was pleasant every time I was down in the bar and choose another girl.

Nice breakdown of the Mansion!! Thanks.

El Mechanico.

Fun Luvr
10-07-16, 19:57
I would be curios to know Funlvrs taste with his great track record. I have a friend with a fantastic track record, but the majority of his chicas are not anyone I would choose. If he was fishing in the same pond as me, he says he wouldn't fish there. He'd rather have a chubby fun girl than a pain in the ass stunner. I kind of agree. To a certain point.My taste is for slim ladies with a pretty face. I only take small and xtra-small panties from VS as gifts. I have said before that I prefer an 8-10 in looks and a 6-7 performance in bed to one with an 8-10 performance and a 6-7 appearance. Attitude scores real high with me. I am thinking of an ex Mansion chica who was very popular. She was pretty, super all natural body, with an outstanding attitude. With me, her bedroom performance was 5-6 at best, but I would try to hook up with her almost every time I was in Medellin. Someone took her off the market. I prefer all natural, but boob implants are ok if they are not too large. Butt implants are a deal killer.

Barkey
10-07-16, 20:45
If you are a Medellin / Colombia experienced monger this report might not be of too much interest as there probably isn't anything new here for you. Kind of long winded too. But, if you are on the fence about making your first visit to MDE maybe this information may be helpful in making up your mind. If not. Too bad. It is what it is. If nothing else something for me to look back on.

Normally I look forward to spending a week in the Fall in St. Martin where I know I really can enjoy my visits to the casas to savor the chicas as well as the many other diversions that are available on the island. For me, a visit to SXM is just so comfortable. I know the locations where I can always find someone to entertain me and where and what to do with my downtime. It's just a fun, easy place to go to.

This year however, before I get too old, I decided to take the plunge and head to Colombia to see firsthand what things were like in the "homeland". I've read so much here on ISG about Medellin, the chicas, the casas, prices, where to stay, etc. I would like to thank all that contributed their experiences. The information was invaluable. It helped made the decision to go a lot easier. Well easier, but still I was a little apprehensive!

Also encouraging me to go too was a friend that I've spent time with on a couple of visits to SXM and her offer to be my live-in tour guide for part of my trip. That pushed me over the edge. Why not? Even though I really rated the chances of her really showing up at maybe 75/25%. It was all worth a try so off to Colombia.

My day on the West Coast started really early in the morning and I didn't arrive in MDE until fairly late at night. For this reason, plus being a first timer, I opted to stay at the Mansion for the first couple of days. Their taxi driver they use was waiting for me upon my arrival and we went direct to the M. This was easy. Everything was going smoothly. Too smoothly?

After a much needed shower and a quick beer in the room to relax a bit it was time to venture down to La Cueva. My first impression, after successfully negotiating the stairs, was that it was kind of quiet. I was greeted by the only guy at the bar who said this was going to be my lucky day. The odds were about 25:1 in my favor. Lots of girls but unlike SXM they seemed pretty reserved. At least they did not rush me as I imagined. I grabbed a beer $6,000 COP (about US $2) and found a seat on a couch. While there were several chicas around they were mostly chatting away with each other. Eventually I made eye contact with a nice looking flaquita. She came over and we tried to have some sort of conversation but she was just so zonked on weed. She, admittedly, was having troubles carrying on a conversation. I didn't get her name but not important. Didn't want it. Some others came in from outside and as each one entered the distinct aroma of freshly smoked weed followed them. Not a big deal for me, just an observation. I quickly left and went for another beer and was thinking that maybe the M is not the place to be. The girls were having their own parties. What a bummer.

While I was having these crazy thoughts of what the hell am I doing here, as I blinked my eye for a second somehow a warm and wet tongue entered my mouth. Just as I realized how attractive this chica was, I was blindsided by another tongue and a sensual Colombian handshake. Helloooooo Luna and Kelli. I now seem to recall someone previously mentioning this dynamic duo but words cannot describe these girls and what was about to happen. It wasn't more than 10 seconds before we were all swapping tongues and getting the "feel" for one another. No excess weed here. Happy powder maybe? A lot of energy packed away in these two tiny, sexy bodies. Anyway, a couple of Jager / Redbull shots at the bar, a resounding ROOKIE chant from the girls and it was up to the room. What a view as my eyes followed these two sexy spinners up the winding stairs and into my room. Soon it was into the shower with the two. BBBJ's from both and soon off to the cama where mouths and tongues left nothing untouched. Several scientific studies were done to see if it was possible for two tongues to share a pussy at the same time. I have to do more research! I thought I'the never have to beg. Don't let me cum in your mouth. Twice. I didn't want the fun to end. Eventually it did but not after an out of this world session. Afterwards in the bar Kelli, I believe, said "as you can see I really like girls". Whew! They spoke pretty good English too. Maybe MDE wasn't going to be so bad after all.

The following morning at breakfast I joined several others for a general BS session and one guy, who mentioned he has been there for a month, said he assumed that I had a good night last night with Kelli and Luna. Yup. I assume I still had a big grin on my face. Still do!

That evening a group of guys, I guess mostly in their 30's, were planning a night out. I declined their invitation to join them since I wanted to be in somewhat reasonable good shape for my flight out the next morning to Santa Marta. I went back down to the bar and again there were maybe 15 girls sitting. Who knows how many were outside "relaxing". I was intrigued by a petite little negrita with a great smile. Alexa. She seemed a bit shy at first but before long we were getting along just fine. She at first asked for $200 K. Nope. $170? Nope. I told her I understand the standard is $150 K. She agreed and up we went. Once again my expectations of a good time in MDE were met if not exceeded with her performance. BBBJ, DFK and various positions. This little one was tight with strong pussy muscles. You could really feel her squeeze. A little weak on the BBBJ (after last night it would be hard to match the efforts of the duo) but otherwise a very, very good session. I wouldn't mind repeating.

We returned to the bar. As Alexa returned to her lasagna dinner, which I had interrupted. Another beer for me. Now the bar was full with girls. Just a few guys. I started talking to another very hot chica. Unfortunately, I was out of gas by this time but I could imagine she would have been great. Not a flaquita, not large, just nicely proportioned. I would have paid more attention to her name if I thought I would be returning.

The next day, Saturday, it was off to Santa Marta for five days. I've learned that things don't always go as planned on one of these trips but, surprise, my amiga did show up. We stayed at Zuana Beach Resort which is near the airport, to close to the action. I traded a SXM timeshare week for here. Since we checked in together there was no issues but the place was pretty elegant and family oriented. It may have been hard to bring in a chica with all of their security.

I really have nothing to report on the mongering scene here since I was perfectly content with the attention I was receiving. I did note that you could see Dubai from the road into Rodadero. In Santa Marta proper while were in the tourist zone one night I asked how to get to Bananas. Just to check it out. We were advised not to walk there since it could be dangerous so we did not go.

I was really impressed that my amiga insisted on cooking almost all our meals rather than "spending too much money" in restaurants. Insisting we take the bus whenever possible rather than the "expensive" taxis. Having breakfast cooked after a friendly wake up, tasty Colombian lunches and just a lot of non-stop attention was great. She even asked if I wanted otra chica. I know she does not like girls (too bad) so it wasn't worth it. Maybe when we go back to MDE.

We returned to MDE on Wednesday for three more days.

Quagmire. Thanks for recommending Sites Hotel. A really great place to stay. Modern, trendy and the staff was very attentive. Just in case a "prima" was going to be joining us at some time I made a reservation for three. As long as a visitor signed in with the front desk, that was all they asked. .

That first night after an early dinner, I wanted to check out at least one club. Together we went to Fase 2. Wow. I thought that Colombia was somewhat reasonably priced. Not here. $10 K per person cover. Local beer $18 K. I guess that converts to about US $6 which isn't that bad for a club but $18 K just sounds like a lot. We arrived at 8:30 not knowing that the show didn't start until 9:30. Slowest damn beer I ever drank. At that time there was only one guy in the club and the girls were just starting to show up. As the chicas slowly filtered in you could see that there was just a fantastic variety. Spinners, average body types and some well enhanced with silicone. I estimate that this slow Wednesday night there wound up being about 20 – 25 girls. Thursday – Saturday they said there are upwards to maybe 80 per night. Cost.$170 up to $200 was the going asking price. The couple of shows we watched were just so-so. The dancers were pretty hot just not any emotion.

My friend asked if I would like to take one to the room! As much as I would have liked to I was a little tired from the previous days so I said no. Maybe tomorrow. Only if you join us. I must have given the right answer as I think I was officially elevated to some sort of novio status that night. (Even if it's just for a couple days. Happy, happy, happy.).

The next day, Thursday, we did touristy stuff in Medellin. Walked around the Centro area including some back streets where the streetwalkers are. Very interesting. If you ever watched the YouTube video of the Medellin SW's, it's just like that. Chicas in almost every doorway. Every shape, every size (mostly not too good looking). Didn't get into any on the bars or massage parlors though. At night, we went to Parque Lleras for a couple after dinner drinks. Great for people watching. While there were many, many great looking Colombianas walking with their friends there were a few pretty obvious working girls too. One in particular was very hot. We all kept eyeing each other. She followed us and we followed her too. Again, my amiga said it's your vacation. Why don't you ask her to come back with us? The extra person is already paid for. ($8 K additional person fee / night for the hotel includes breakfast.) Stupid me!! I replied only if you join us. Nooooo. Sigh! Flashback to Luna and Kelli. A repeat of something like that would have been fantastic. That didn't happen but it turned out being a very long, satisfying and emotional night. Maybe too much tequila? Again!

Friday, my last day, we spent time in the rooftop pool at the hotel and in the sauna. Damn security cameras! The next day I finally broke down and was ready to go to Energy or Thai Spa for a little more and different enjoyment. I needed a nap first. The relaxing in bed didn't last too long and before you know it absolutely no need for another massage. The last night had a great dinner in Parque Lleras. Unfortunately, it started to rain and there wasn't as much people watching as I would have hoped for. I didn't notice any obvious working girls so my last chance for a change of pace wasn't going to happen. No problem as I was well taken care of.

Saturday the wake-up call was much too early. 5:00 am. My friend accompanied me to the airport and then took a bus back to the terminal in MDE for her bus trip to her city. Economical!!

SOME RANDOM THOUGHTS AND OBSERVATIONS.

Barkey is not too good at mongering. I missed out on a lot of opportunities but. Having fun anyway. I was more than happy with my amiga for several days. Having decent Spanish skills was a big plus. Especially when spending a lot of time outside the casas / bars with a friend.

The Mansion – A good starting point for rookie wusses, like myself. Ones that like to test the waters before jumping in. The main staff all speak excellent English and will help any way they can. Almost an all-inclusive place. You can get your chica, your Viagra, antibiotics, beer, SIM card, directions, food delivery without leaving the hotel. It seems like you will always be able to find some gringos to talk to, share stories, go out on a casa run or just hang out and drink (or whatever) by the pool. It's close to the Santa Fe Mall which is great. If necessary, for eating more American style food and just observing and people watching. McDonalds, Krispy Cream, Starbucks (and of course Juan Valdez), pizza, banks all close by. Located in El Poblado a very nice area and seeming relatively safe if you are cautious. Don't flash your iphone, jewelry, money. What appears to be their regular taxi guy, Fernando, is cool. He knows all the places to go and offered to wait for you if you decide to go into a bar or for a massage. $30 K per hour was quoted. Other taxis offered general tours for a bit less. He didn't speak much English but can you can get by. It's cheaper if you go on your own in a taxi direct to your destination but if you don't know where you are going?

Hotels – Again the Sites Hotel worked out great for me. Cost was about US $100/ night for a one bedroom with balcony. Of course you can find much more economical accommodations but for this trip an extra 40 dollars per night or so wasn't going to be a problem. I almost booked at Lleras 10 which was a lot cheaper. It looked like a cool place but almost right at the park on Calle 10 and it was just so noisy. Day and night. I was glad I didn't go there.

Taxis-Everywhere. The ones running around MDE are really tiny in the back seat. More normal size ones go to / from the airport. Taxis are inexpensive. Unless you know exactly where you are going and speak good Spanish having the address of a place written down to show the driver is a must. Even if they say they know where something is, it isn't enough. One guy had to stop and ask for directions. Another said he couldn't take us since he didn't even know where the streets were. A chance you take, especially if you are taking a taxi from El Centro to somewhere in El Poblado or other area where the guy may not go too often.

If you are young, not like me, and go with a group of buddies you will have the time of your life. If you are up there in years, like me, still no problem. Just be careful. The more Spanish you can speak the better.

Santa Marta – The beach is crappy when compared to SXM. Water is warm but not clear. Too many pushy vendors. Took a tour to what looked like a nice beach in the photos. It wasn't. Too many aggressive vendors on the beach. Sunglasses, hats, food, tours, beads. You name it they had it. I'm sure if I was walking as a solo male, chicas would have been offered too. Just a guess. A tour to Minca was kind of interesting. The river, waterfalls and pools. Just a lot of people. Santa Marta doesn't seem to be a great mongering place for gringos but can't say for sure. I probably wouldn't go back.

The women – Walking around the malls, Ave. Poblado, and in Parque Lleras I think you will find that the average Colombiana is really good looking and some are really out of this world. It seems like the way they dress they are all ready to go out on a date. Even if they are going to work! Even the not so cute ones didn't look that bad by the way they dressed. Very friendly. In El Centro, not the same, but there were some real hotties on the Metro.

Money – ATM's everywhere. You don't need to bring dollars. Withdraw US $400 from the machine and you're an instant millionaire. I preferred to use the Citibank near the Mansion which was indoors. I also used an ATM at an Exito market and no problems.

Would I go back – A tough decision. Definitely for the women. The cost of airfare from LOS Angeles and hotels is a bargain when compared to SXM. All Good. The downside is what to do in your down time. I missed having a nice beach to hang out at during the day. If it wasn't for having a companion at my side for most of the trip I probably would have been a bit bored. But that's just me.

Anyway, I hope this info will help someone.

Barkey.

YippieKayay
10-07-16, 21:07
At night, we went to Parque Lleras for a couple after dinner drinks. Great for people watching. While there were many, many great looking Colombianas walking with their friends there were a few pretty obvious working girls too.How obvious were the hookers in Parque Lleras? Did they look like street walkers or just girls alone that kept looking at foreign men?

Barkey
10-07-16, 21:27
How obvious were the hookers in Parque Lleras? Did they look like street walkers or just girls alone that kept looking at foreign men?They seemed pretty obvious to me. Short short skirts, alone, smiling and their eyes looking at men, not only gringos. Just kind of hanging out and strolling around. Apparently not just waiting to meet friends.

Dickhead
10-07-16, 21:27
Don't worry about Parque Lleras. If in doubt, smile at the woman. If she smiles back and keeps walking, or doesn't smile back, not a hooker. If she turns to face you, or says something to you with a smile on her face, hooker. If you make a mistake, the worst thing that could happen is her boyfriend will stab you several times, but most knife wounds aren't fatal and you can live without your spleen, one kidney, most of your liver, your gall bladder, etc.

But seriously, you'll figure it out.

Bonhead
10-07-16, 21:42
Some almost real-time info for why'all. All just a few hours ago.

12 pm New Life, Calle 56 (Bolivia) # 43-39. Very good lineup. Maybe 15 girls. Was hard to choose so I took two, Melany and Tatiana. Good time. Both partied, 45 minutes damage including 3 beers was 135 k COP, plus 50 k propina for them to split. This was the only spot that had a steady flow of customers, maybe 1 person every 20-30 minutes. Everywhere else it was usually me alone.

1 pm Club de Amigas (ex Sexi Sala De Masajes), Carrera 45 (El Palo) # 57-55. No chicas, off to the next spot. 
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1:10 pm Aiffe, Calle 57 (Argentina) #43-27.

Lineup of about 8-9. All the girls in very nice lingerie. But none too pretty.

1:20 pm Paisa Relax (ex Sara, Relax, Camila), Carrera 45 (El Palo) # 57-71. Only 3 girls available, none good kept it moving.

125 pm Masajes Sexy 1 or Club Amigas Sexi, Carrera 45 D # 57-67. By this time I had given up hope. But there were about 15 girls here and more than a few cuties. Also noticed a sign saying 20 k cover but consumible so use it for beers. 70 k for one hour. But the mamasan who was very nice told me take two for 90 k. So I did. They partied too, a lot (Cristina and Melissa) but wanted a 40 k tip each for the lesbo action. I obliged. So with all that fun it ended up going for two hours. Total damage including a bunch of beers for all and propina 300k (~USD $100)

Thedman
10-07-16, 22:53
New member going to MDE for my first time in November. Been doing all I can to RTFF, and I appreciate all the great info you guys have posted. Some posts though are especially helpful to first timers, and Barkey. Yours is absolutely awesome.

Thank you.

Barkey
10-08-16, 01:44
New member going to MDE for my first time in November. Been doing all I can to RTFF, and I appreciate all the great info you guys have posted. Some posts though are especially helpful to first timers, and Barkey. Yours is absolutely awesome.

Thank you.Thanks. Not a lot of info but I hope what I was able to share was helpful. We all look forward to your report when you get back.

Have fun.

Barkey.

Quagmire1974
10-08-16, 07:43
Quagmire. Thanks for recommending Sites Hotel. A really great place to stay. Modern, trendy and the staff was very attentive. Just in case a "prima" was going to be joining us at some time I made a reservation for three. As long as a visitor signed in with the front desk, that was all they asked...

...Hotels: Again the Sites Hotel worked out great for me. Cost was about US $100/ night for a one bedroom with balcony. Of course you can find much more economical accommodations but for this trip an extra 40 dollars per night or so wasn't going to be a problem. I almost booked at Lleras 10 which was a lot cheaper. It looked like a cool place but almost right at the park on Calle 10 and it was just so noisy. Day and night. I was glad I didn't go there.You are welcome. I myself would absolutely choose that hotel again for a future trip to Medellin. One of the great things about that hotel is the location. A huge Exito supermarket, a Pasteur pharmacy, a Metro stop, and the Oviedo Mall are all a few minutes walk from the hotel.

Thanks for the awesome trip report. Glad you had a safe and fun time!

ElJefe7010
10-08-16, 12:05
How obvious were the hookers in Parque Lleras? Did they look like street walkers or just girls alone that kept looking at foreign men?I've seen them in full hunting mode. A group of 4 girls walking in a group together, dressed sexy, but not too overtly slutty, not saying anything to each other, scanning the crowds as they walk by. Totally looked like sharks looking for prey, LOL.

TrueScotsMan
10-08-16, 14:45
If you are a Medellin / Colombia experienced monger this report might not be of too much interest as there probably isn't anything new here for you. Kind of long winded too. But, if you are on the fence about making your first visit to MDE maybe this information may be helpful in making up your mind. If not. Too bad. It is what it is. If nothing else something for me to look back on.

Normally I look forward to spending a week in the Fall in St. Martin where I know I really can enjoy my visits to the casas to savor the chicas as well as the many other diversions that are available on the island. For me, a visit to SXM is just so comfortable. I know the locations where I can always find someone to entertain me and where and what to do with my downtime. It's just a fun, easy place to go to.

This year however, before I get too old, I decided to take the plunge and head to Colombia to see firsthand what things were like in the "homeland". I've read so much here on ISG about Medellin, the chicas, the casas, prices, where to stay, etc. I would like to thank all that contributed their experiences. The information was invaluable. It helped made the decision to go a lot easier..Yes Barkley thanks, I arrive in 5 weeks I'm staying at M1 for a couple of nights. I hope to meet the Luna and Kelli. Then again I hear the bartender is a challenge! Well I love a challenge.

Barkey
10-08-16, 17:35
Yes Barkley thanks, I arrive in 5 weeks I'm staying at M1 for a couple of nights. I hope to meet the Luna and Kelli. Then again I hear the bartender is a challenge! Well I love a challenge.I didn't go after the bartender but I'm sure that if she was on the other side of the bar she would have been at the top of my list. She is quite attractive.

I'm sure you will have fun.

Barkey.

Barkey
10-08-16, 17:40
You are welcome. I myself would absolutely choose that hotel again for a future trip to Medellin. One of the great things about that hotel is the location. A huge Exito supermarket, a Pasteur pharmacy, a Metro stop, and the Oviedo Mall are all a few minutes walk from the hotel.

Thanks for the awesome trip report. Glad you had a safe and fun time!The Exito supermarket was great! The beer was only about US $3. 00/ six pack and they had everything else you need. It was a cool walk during the day but a little spooky at night going by the creek.

Thanks again for the hotel recommendation. I too would return here.

Barkey.

Guillermo
10-08-16, 20:22
But, if you are on the fence about making your first visit to MDE maybe this information may be helpful in making up your mind. Barkey,

Thanks for the excellent post. It just reinforces the decision I've already made to make my first trip to MDE.

Curious about how you handled the transfer from the Mansion to Sites. Were you able to book the room at Sites after you arrived in MDE? Or was that already taken care of before you left L.A.?

Quagmire1974
10-08-16, 21:52
The Exito supermarket was great! The beer was only about US $3. 00/ six pack and they had everything else you need. It was a cool walk during the day but a little spooky at night going by the creek.

Thanks again for the hotel recommendation. I too would return here.

Barkey.I bought a bag of Juan Valdez Fuerte ground coffee from the Exito. Stuff tasted fantasatic when I brewed it back in the USA and I regretted not buying more. You can also do money exchange inside the Exito but the process is a lot more tedious than doing it at one of the cambios in Oviedo Mall.

At the Pasteur pharmacy near the Exito, you can buy Viagra and generic Viagra (sildenafil) over the counter without prescription. This is what I said in an old trip report. Keep in mind prices were current as of exactly a year ago:

"No, you do not need a prescription to buy Sildenafil (Viagra and generic Viagra) at pharmacies in Medellin. At Pasteur Farmacia, 2 tablets of 50 MG Viagra= 58,700 COP, while 1 tablet of 100 MG Viagra= 25,000 COP. 2 tablets of generic 50 MG Viagra is 5,600 COP or 18,000 COP (depends on the manufacturer). 1 tablet of generic 100 MG Viagra= 5,900 COP (manufactured by Genfar and sold as "Sildenafilo" in a small red and white box)."

Barkey
10-08-16, 21:57
[QUOTE=Guillermo;1946978.

Thanks for the excellent post. It just reinforces the decision I've already made to make my first trip to MDE.

Curious about how you handled the transfer from the Mansion to Sites. Were you able to book the room at Sites after you arrived in MDE? Or was that already taken care of before you left L. A. ?QUO.

I'm sure you will have a great time in MDE and, like me, won't regret the decision to go.

I booked my room at Sites before I left home. I needed a place to stay after Santa Marta and really based on Quagmire's prior report and recommendation this seemed to be an ideal place for me especially since I probably would have a friend with me. It was. Should you stay here just make sure when you leave the hotel for any outing that you have the hotel's business card with you so you can show the taxi driver the address. I only found one that actually new the name of the hotel and it's location.

Barkey.

Bonhead
10-09-16, 11:21
I've seen them in full hunting mode. A group of 4 girls walking in a group together, dressed sexy, but not too overtly slutty, not saying anything to each other, scanning the crowds as they walk by. Totally looked like sharks looking for prey, LOL.Yes they are totally obvious. Have a seat at the Bogotá Beer Company on the top of the park next to the entrance to the beach themed disco on the second floor. You will quickly see lots of the girls loitering across the street in the park, near the payphones, etc. They are all available. The disco also is full of them, but I didn't go up to check it or since it was early (10 pm) and still sparse.

They will quote 300 k+, but will probably take 200-250 k for a couple of hours. TLN isn't easy to come by cheaply anymore. Most will quote 500 k+ and not budge.

YippieKayay
10-09-16, 12:07
Yes they are totally obvious. Have a seat at the Bogot Beer Company on the top of the park next to the entrance to the beach themed disco on the second floor. You will quickly see lots of the girls loitering across the street in the park, near the payphones, etc. They are all available. The disco also is full of them, but I didn't go up to check it or since it was early (10 pm) and still sparse.

They will quote 300 k+, but will probably take 200-250 k for a couple of hours. TLN isn't easy to come by cheaply anymore. Most will quote 500 k+ and not budge.Thanks. This is good information. I take it all shapes and sizes too.

300 k is a little over $100 USD which is about what one would pay in Panama City. I'm wondering if punters in Lleras Parque are over paying and setting these prices.

KingAmongKings
10-09-16, 17:08
If you are decently good looking and / or have a decent personality, then you should not be paying more than 100 K COP. If you are, then you are getting ripped off. Period.

King


Thanks. This is good information. I take it all shapes and sizes too.

300 k is a little over $100 USD which is about what one would pay in Panama City. I'm wondering if punters in Lleras Parque are over paying and setting these prices.

Bart1
10-09-16, 18:17
I bought a bag of Juan Valdez Fuerte ground coffee from the Exito. Stuff tasted fantasatic when I brewed it back in the USA and I regretted not buying more. You can also do money exchange inside the Exito but the process is a lot more tedious than doing it at one of the cambios in Oviedo Mall.

At the Pasteur pharmacy near the Exito, you can buy Viagra and generic Viagra (sildenafil) over the counter without prescription. This is what I said in an old trip report. Keep in mind prices were current as of exactly a year ago:

"No, you do not need a prescription to buy Sildenafil (Viagra and generic Viagra) at pharmacies in Medellin. At Pasteur Farmacia, 2 tablets of 50 MG Viagra= 58,700 COP, while 1 tablet of 100 MG Viagra= 25,000 COP. 2 tablets of generic 50 MG Viagra is 5,600 COP or 18,000 COP (depends on the manufacturer). 1 tablet of generic 100 MG Viagra= 5,900 COP (manufactured by Genfar and sold as "Sildenafilo" in a small red and white box)."Prices in el Centro run from 2000 cop to 3000 cop for two 50 MG made in Colombia, la sante makes a chewable, in Spanish called masticable, I let it melt under my tongue, works in 15 minutes, great for me as usual tabs never worked on a full stomach, and these ones work even after a meal. Now I can enjoy a meal and a chica at the same time. A second company also makes a chewable but forgot the name, both kinds pills have no negative side effects for me compared to swallow tabs.

Surfer500
10-09-16, 19:27
If you are decently good looking and / or have a decent personality, then you should not be paying more than 100 K COP. If you are, then you are getting ripped off. Period.

KingI'm assuming this would be for those who speak Spanish?

SavePros321
10-09-16, 21:53
Prices in el Centro run from 2000 cop to 3000 cop for two 50 MG made in Colombia, la sante makes a chewable, in Spanish called masticable, I let it melt under my tongue, works in 15 minutes, great for me as usual tabs never worked on a full stomach, and these ones work even after a meal. Now I can enjoy a meal and a chica at the same time. A second company also makes a chewable but forgot the name, both kinds pills have no negative side effects for me compared to swallow tabs.Has it been explained why you cannot find Cialis in Medellin? It is my preferred drug of choice (LOL). I hate having to get refills here in the US because they are expensive as fuck. I guess I need to do another recon trip to the Dominican Republic and stock up.

Barkey
10-09-16, 22:41
Has it been explained why you cannot find Cialis in Medellin? It is my preferred drug of choice (LOL). I hate having to get refills here in the US because they are expensive as fuck. I guess I need to do another recon trip to the Dominican Republic and stock up.This is not an advertisement just my experience. I order from JCM in India. My generic V 130 MG arrives usually in a couple of weeks by registered US mail for about $0. 80 each. They have generic Cialis and so on too.

Barkey.

Dickhead
10-09-16, 22:56
Could it be because Viagra's patent has expired but Cialis's has not? You wouldn't think Colombia would give a shit about patents, though. Cialis gives me the shits, although I only have an "n" of 2. I know in Argentina, you can get Cialis without a prescription, whereas Viagra in theory requires a prescription, but you can only get brand name Cialis. No generic exists there. That's why I'm guessing it's a patent issue.

Combo
10-09-16, 23:54
Thanks. This is good information. I take it all shapes and sizes too.

300 k is a little over $100 USD which is about what one would pay in Panama City. I'm wondering if punters in Lleras Parque are over paying and setting these prices.If they quote someone 300 k for short-time, he must look like he just fell off the hay wagon (or whatever that expression is for looking naive). I'd be so insulted, I wouldn't interact with them any further.

SavePros321
10-10-16, 00:18
This is not an advertisement just my experience. I order from JCM in India. My generic V 130 MG arrives usually in a couple of weeks by registered US mail for about $0. 80 each. They have generic Cialis and so on too.

Barkey.Thanks for the tip Barkey!

SavePros321
10-10-16, 00:20
If they quote someone 300 k for short-time, he must look like he just fell off the hay wagon (or whatever that expression is for looking naive). I'd be so insulted, I wouldn't interact with them any further.I believe the phrase you are looking for is "Fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down", hahaha :D

CarlosVives
10-10-16, 05:22
Going back to MDE in a month. Had a great time at the mansion and met some great guys and great chicas. Hit it off with one chica and we are planning on going to Cartagena for a few days. Anyone experience taking a prepago to Cartagena? She said she's going as my novia, not as a prepago. Wondering if they expect to get paid for time on the trip? I think this girl is fairly new to the game. She said it was her first time at the Mansion when I met her.

Arcangel
10-10-16, 05:36
Generic Cialis, that's Tadalafil, is in fact available in Colombia. But for some reason it's a lot more expensive than Sildenafil (generic Viagra), maybe it's more difficult to make. So I haven't tried it in Colombia. The advantage of tadalafil is that it stays in your system a lot longer, so you can take one for the whole day as opposed to sildenafil which you should take an hour before you get active.

I buy 4 x50 MG sildenafil for 6. 000 at Farmacia Pasteur in Medellin. They have 28 x5 MG tadalafil for 73.000. Boxes of 4 x20 MG may also be available. I've asked around and most farmacias don't have tadalafil, or only very much more expensive. So, if you shop around, you can get a month's supply of tadalafil for the price of a bottle of whiskey. Bear in mind though, that 5 MG is a low dose. To get the same effect as 50 MG sildenafil, you need 10-20 MG of tadalafil.

Oh, and if you compare the price of a tab of sildenafil, which is 0. 50 USD, to the price of Viagra where you live, then you have a measure of how Big Pharma has captured your country.

TrueScotsMan
10-10-16, 10:46
It sucks that you need a drug to help you perform, you have so many hot chiks.

Maybe it's an age thing. I tried Viagra in Thailand. All it done was make my blood pressure go hard high.

Black Page
10-10-16, 13:57
I bought a bag of Juan Valdez Fuerte ground coffee from the Exito."?? There is no Juan Valdez "Fuerte".

Each type of coffee (Premium blends or single origin" is classified in "Fuerte", "Balanceado" or "Suave" depending on the strength and aroma.

Most likely, you have bought a packet of Volcan, a blend for espresso, which is "Fuerte".

See here.

http://www.juanvaldezcafe.com/es-co/productos/nuestros-cafes/

Go to a tienda and you will be delighted by the variety of choices available. I always buy not less than 10 packets.

El Mechanico
10-10-16, 15:51
I believe the phrase you are looking for is "Fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down", hahaha :DThat phrase has nothing to do with how naive a person is!

El Mechanico.

Quagmire1974
10-10-16, 17:33
?? There is no Juan Valdez "Fuerte".

Each type of coffee (Premium blends or single origin" is classified in "Fuerte", "Balanceado" or "Suave" depending on the strength and aroma.

Most likely, you have bought a packet of Volcan, a blend for espresso, which is "Fuerte".

See here.

http://www.juanvaldezcafe.com/es-co/productos/nuestros-cafes/

Go to a tienda and you will be delighted by the variety of choices available. I always buy not less than 10 packets.We're both wrong. I bought this one:

http://www.juanvaldezcafe.com/en-us/products/our-coffees/premium-selection-coffees/cumbre-coffee/

I probably remembered "Fuerte" because of the product's description of "intense and impressive flavors."

Lefeu
10-10-16, 17:42
Going back to MDE in a month. Had a great time at the mansion and met some great guys and great chicas. Hit it off with one chica and we are planning on going to Cartagena for a few days. Anyone experience taking a prepago to Cartagena? She said she's going as my novia, not as a prepago. Wondering if they expect to get paid for time on the trip? I think this girl is fairly new to the game. She said it was her first time at the Mansion when I met her.I took one a couple of years ago to San Andres. I had a good time but I paid for it. If you expect to shag her, she expects to get paid. So, better to agree with her ahead of time on how much you would give her for each day. Also, I suggest you give her her money every day, this way you don't have to shell out too much more for gifts. She has money to buy her own stuff. The age difference was very obvious in my case but I did my best to ignore it and ignore any stares.

YippieKayay
10-10-16, 17:46
I took one a couple of years ago to San Andres. I had a good time but I paid for it. If you expect to shag her, she expects to get paid. So, better to agree with her ahead of time on how much you would give her for each day. Also, I suggest you give her her money every day, this way you don't have to shell out too much more for gifts. She has money to buy her own stuff. The age difference was very obvious in my case but I did my best to ignore it and ignore any stares.Don't do that if they're calling themselves your novia. Be subtle. Give her some money at the end, sure, what you think is fair. Otherwise show her a good time. If you go all business when they are trying to keep things cool you risk humiliating them.

Dickhead
10-10-16, 18:13
It sucks that you need a drug to help you perform, you have so many hot chiks.

Maybe it's an age thing. I tried Viagra in Thailand. All it done was make my blood pressure go hard high.ˇMira vos!

Manizales911
10-10-16, 18:21
This is not an advertisement just my experience. I order from JCM in India. My generic V 130 MG arrives usually in a couple of weeks by registered US mail for about $0. 80 each. They have generic Cialis and so on too.

Barkey.I've used JCM for 10 years, quick, cheap and reliable, never had a problem. Orders usually at my house in the USA In less than two weeks.

Surfer500
10-10-16, 21:09
Mira vos!Can you translate what your saying into English this time as this literally translated doesn't make sense so I have to assume it's a saying or slang.

ZepFan
10-11-16, 00:04
Living in San Diego I get my Sildenafil in Tijuana.

10 - 100 MG for 430 p or $2.26/ Tab.

I use it as an enhancement. I can easily go 3 rounds w / a hottie w / chemistry w / o.

It's kinda a back up for the others. LOL.

Harder longer orgasm retarder.

Barkey
10-11-16, 01:23
Going back to MDE in a month. Had a great time at the mansion and met some great guys and great chicas. Hit it off with one chica and we are planning on going to Cartagena for a few days. Anyone experience taking a prepago to Cartagena? She said she's going as my novia, not as a prepago. Wondering if they expect to get paid for time on the trip? I think this girl is fairly new to the game. She said it was her first time at the Mansion when I met her.I think you are the only one that can answer that question Only you know what kind of relationship you have with her. If after spending an hour or so with her, maybe a couple of times, and asked if she was interested in going to CTG with you as you handed her $150 K I'm sure she would say "Si. Voy a ser tu novia". If she is new to the business and maybe heard or read she could get $2 MM - $3 MMK / day it's a no brainer. Keep in mind that the terms "novia" and "novio" are used pretty freely when in the bar.

On the other hand if you spent a lot of time with her outside the Mansion, or wherever, and she refused payment then maybe you might have something. Are you her age? Do you speak at least decent Spanish? All things to consider. I would try to clarify these issues upfront but plan on leaving her something.

For what it's worth, I spent a week or so with "mi esposa" and had a great time. Best of luck to you.

Barkey.

SavePros321
10-11-16, 02:06
She said it was her first time at the Mansion when I met her.Probably told the other 10 gringos she met before you the same story bro, hahaha.


She said she's going as my novia, not as a prepago. Wondering if they expect to get paid for time on the trip?Best thing to do is to ask her how much she wants. If she says she doesn't want any money, just wants to go on the trip with you, then you could assume she is being genuine. But it is better to find out this info upfront than to have a pro go all psycho on you over money while on your trip.

Combo
10-11-16, 03:34
Going back to MDE in a month. Had a great time at the mansion and met some great guys and great chicas. Hit it off with one chica and we are planning on going to Cartagena for a few days. Anyone experience taking a prepago to Cartagena? She said she's going as my novia, not as a prepago. Wondering if they expect to get paid for time on the trip? I think this girl is fairly new to the game. She said it was her first time at the Mansion when I met her.I agree with what SavePros just wrote. It's possible that she genuinely enjoys your company and just wants to see Cartagena with you. It's also possible (and more likely) she wants to be paid. The only way to find out which one it is is to ask her upfront (in a nice light-hearted way).

It's certainly the exception to the rule, but if you get along well, some girls at the Mansion will do stuff with you that's not strictly business. I've stayed overnight in Guatape with a chica I know from the Mansion for nothing beyond Hotel, food, and transportation expenses (Hotel LOS Recuerdos -- highly recommended). Of course if chicas do this, they may try to dig their claws in you, and get pissed off if you go with other girls. For that reason, it may very well be better off to just pay them and keep it professional.

Chinzano
10-11-16, 05:31
Going back to MDE in a month. Had a great time at the mansion and met some great guys and great chicas. Hit it off with one chica and we are planning on going to Cartagena for a few days. Anyone experience taking a prepago to Cartagena? She said she's going as my novia, not as a prepago. Wondering if they expect to get paid for time on the trip? I think this girl is fairly new to the game. She said it was her first time at the Mansion when I met her.
Yes, I did exactly that back in April. Please find my detailed reports that I published back then as well as discussion that it generated on the forum. Overall I had a great time and never regret but not sure I would repeat exactly the same. My observation is that taking a colombian chica on a short vacation is a good idea if you do it right way, in other words, if you are smart enough to understand your chica and the dynamics around you. Good Spanish (which I didn't have) is definitely a plus for plans like yours.

CarlosVives
10-11-16, 07:22
Thanks for all the responses. My friend told me the same thing as many are saying to pay her a daily stipend. However, let me give you a little more information. I'm a young guy (27) she's 22. My Spanish is probably equivalent to that of a 3 yo. I mentioned to her on WhatsApp that I'm coming to Mde at the end of the month but I'm spending a few days in CTG as well. She was the one who asked if she could tag along. I asked her word for word "vienes como mi novia o prepago" to which she answered "como tu quieras?" I said I would prefer that she come as my novia. Which she then responded "así sera, sabes Q tu me gustas mucho" with a bunch of heart shaped emoticons. Anyways, I'm also talking to a non prepago (or so she claims) that also wants me to take her to CTG. Decisions.

MedellinGringo
10-11-16, 08:05
Going back to MDE in a month. Had a great time at the mansion and met some great guys and great chicas. Hit it off with one chica and we are planning on going to Cartagena for a few days. Anyone experience taking a prepago to Cartagena? She said she's going as my novia, not as a prepago. Wondering if they expect to get paid for time on the trip? I think this girl is fairly new to the game. She said it was her first time at the Mansion when I met her.I have taken Mansion chicks to Cartagena and Cancun. Cleared upfront before going that I wouldn't be paying them to join me and they agreed.

I would never take one of her girlfriends with me. She has to want to go with just you or it will turn into a disaster.

Never take any chick to Cartagena that has ever been to Casa Benjamin. In fact I generally avoid all girls that are into the Israeli party scene. They are OK for a short time fuck. But a waste of time for the most part on anything more long term.

YippieKayay
10-11-16, 10:35
On the other hand if you spent a lot of time with her outside the Mansion, or wherever, and she refused payment then maybe you might have something. Are you her age? Do you speak at least decent Spanish? All things to consider. I would try to clarify these issues upfront but plan on leaving her something.

This is very very bad advice.

(1) She lied to him. She's not new to the mansion. No chica is "new" to the Mansion.

(2) If they play the novia game it's another lie. It just means you're getting it wholesale.

(3) Since you're paying for the trip you're not obligated to give her anything but trust me she'll bring it up in a subtle way if she needs money.

Do not under any circumstances believe a working girl who tells you she's new to the business. If they were new they would not have the nerve to tell you or go on a trip with you. She's done this before.

Mr Enternational
10-11-16, 11:07
Going back to MDE in a month. Had a great time at the mansion and met some great guys and great chicas. Hit it off with one chica and we are planning on going to Cartagena for a few days. Anyone experience taking a prepago to Cartagena?If you are not able to find a normal girlfriend to travel with you then chances are... Simple rule of thumb: If you meet her as a hooker then keep her as a hooker. Why are you trying to change the relationship dynamics? I do not meet hookers and stop paying them and I do not meet normal chicks and start paying them.

Dickhead
10-11-16, 12:48
Can you translate what your saying into English this time as this literally translated doesn't make sense so I have to assume it's a saying or slang.What did it translate to? It doesn't really translate but the closest thing in US English might be "Well, get a load of you!" I thought the poster's comment about "it sucks that you need a drug to help you perform" was pretty rude, and I'm a dickhead. Probably English is not his first language. I think a lot of us know that even if you don't "need" Viagra to "help you perform," it can be a handy tool. And yeah, a lot of us are old. A translator can also be a useful tool, but if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything might start to look like a nail. Translators suck because they can't handle homonyms or regionalisms, which is why I made the earlier joke about running "listo caballero" through a translator. Some hooker did that and posted the results to the board, hoping to drum up business, and it made NO sense and a pretty high level of Spanish would be needed to figure out what she meant.

So if your friend says, "I bought a new BMW for 120,000 dollars" or "I fucked Miley Cyrus last night," you could say 'ˇMira vos!' Does that make sense? It should literally translate as 'look at you. '.

CarlosVives
10-11-16, 13:38
This is very very bad advice.

(1) She lied to him. She's not new to the mansion. No chica is "new" to the Mansion.

(2) If they play the novia game it's another lie. It just means you're getting it wholesale.

(3) Since you're paying for the trip you're not obligated to give her anything but trust me she'll bring it up in a subtle way if she needs money.

Do not under any circumstances believe a working girl who tells you she's new to the business. If they were new they would not have the nerve to tell you or go on a trip with you. She's done this before.The reason why I think she's new is that she had no idea how to put a condom on (all three times I saw her). I took her for a threesome on 'her first day' and the other girl was telling her what to do and I even heard the other working girl to tell her to ask for taxi money. I guess she could just be incredibly stupid. She already asked me for money subtlety by saying that someone stole her Moto during the night. I told her that maybe one of her amiguitos will buy her a new one and I also told her that her words were sweet but dangerous. She dropped it and has been trying to convince me that she's not after my money.

CarlosVives
10-11-16, 13:46
If you are not able to find a normal girlfriend to travel with you then chances are... Simple rule of thumb: If you meet her as a hooker then keep her as a hooker. Why are you trying to change the relationship dynamics? I do not meet hookers and stop paying them and I do not meet normal chicks and start paying them.She asked me to take her after I mentioned that I want to spend a few days there. She said she's never been there before. If anyone is trying to change the relationship dynamic it's her. FYI, I took a tinder girl on a road trip from Colorado to NYC. It was a week long trip and we had sex every night. She could barely speak English and we only met for only a few hours in Times Square before she agreed to come with me on my road trip. I totally understand what you're saying about keeping hookers as hookers but I lived in sxm for 2 years and met a girl there who stopped charging me money for sex. I would only pay the house multa ($70) And we'd hang out at my place smoke weed and watch Netflix. She was basically living with me.

You Can
10-11-16, 14:14
Well I don't think this has anything to do with what you guys are talking about but fuck it I, think what I have to say is funny and pretty much I write what I think and try to contribute where I can, usually someone has a problem with it and writes some negative comment but I don't give a fuck. So here goes with what I thought was funny: I always go to carbon de palo in Cartagena. I went there for lunch a couple times a few months ago and ate a steak along with drinking my big pitcher of red sangria. I saw a special on the table where they list specials and drinks in middle of table, that said something to the effect of baby Caballo steak, I thought it was horse meat. Caballo=horse.

Anyway I took the girl I have known for a few years there one night who speaks decent English and I said that's different for me, pointing to special, I said I wasn't use to seeing a special for horse meat (even though I have eaten it before someplace else) She busted out laughing, not at me, but because I thought it was horse meat. She tried to explain it wasn't horse meat, but spelled similar. I still don't know what she said. But she assured me it wasn't horse meat. It was funny and we still laugh about it when we go there.


What did it translate to? It doesn't really translate but the closest thing in US English might be "Well, get a load of you!" I thought the poster's comment about "it sucks that you need a drug to help you perform" was pretty rude, and I'm a dickhead. Probably English is not his first language. I think a lot of us know that even if you don't "need" Viagra to "help you perform," it can be a handy tool. And yeah, a lot of us are old. A translator can also be a useful tool, but if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything might start to look like a nail. Translators suck because they can't handle homonyms or regionalisms, which is why I made the earlier joke about running "listo caballero" through a translator. Some hooker did that and posted the results to the board, hoping to drum up business, and it made NO sense and a pretty high level of Spanish would be needed to figure out what she meant.

So if your friend says, "I bought a new BMW for 120,000 dollars" or "I fucked Miley Cyrus last night," you could say 'Mira vos!' Does that make sense? It should literally translate as 'look at you. '.

You Can
10-11-16, 14:16
Oh you are paying both of them Just in a different way.


If you are not able to find a normal girlfriend to travel with you then chances are... Simple rule of thumb: If you meet her as a hooker then keep her as a hooker. Why are you trying to change the relationship dynamics? I do not meet hookers and stop paying them and I do not meet normal chicks and start paying them.

You Can
10-11-16, 14:17
Oh yea, you nailed that rite on the head!


This is very very bad advice.

(1) She lied to him. She's not new to the mansion. No chica is "new" to the Mansion.

(2) If they play the novia game it's another lie. It just means you're getting it wholesale.

(3) Since you're paying for the trip you're not obligated to give her anything but trust me she'll bring it up in a subtle way if she needs money.

Do not under any circumstances believe a working girl who tells you she's new to the business. If they were new they would not have the nerve to tell you or go on a trip with you. She's done this before.

You Can
10-11-16, 14:25
I know a guy that came back from DR and was showing pictures of his girlfriend. He recently bought a condo in Cabarete. Literally everyone he knew, he was showing his pictures of his girlfriend to. He said how he fell in love and sends money to her. I didn't have the heart to tell him she was still "working" I am sure she likes him, but even though I don't go to DR much, I still have seen her and this guy actually has no clue. (I have actually been with her) She gave him some bullshit story. He is a retired firemen and I know his friends have talked to him but he doesn't want to hear it.


This is very very bad advice.

(1) She lied to him. She's not new to the mansion. No chica is "new" to the Mansion.

(2) If they play the novia game it's another lie. It just means you're getting it wholesale.

(3) Since you're paying for the trip you're not obligated to give her anything but trust me she'll bring it up in a subtle way if she needs money.

Do not under any circumstances believe a working girl who tells you she's new to the business. If they were new they would not have the nerve to tell you or go on a trip with you. She's done this before.

You Can
10-11-16, 14:33
It's funny, I can do that, but I just don't want to do that. This crazy girl I am seeing in Colombia has said to me do I want to travel with her. (Another words do I want to take her to Santa Marta or where ever and for me it's Hell NO. Of course I didn't say it like that.

But to me I go to have fun and even though I spend much time with her, there just is no fucking way I want to be locked in with her. But I agree if you know what your getting into that's fine. I travel to party and girls are second. So I don't want to have any girl 24/7 and I make that known up front.


Yes, I did exactly that back in April. Please find my detailed reports that I published back then as well as discussion that it generated on the forum. Overall I had a great time and never regret but not sure I would repeat exactly the same. My observation is that taking a colombian chica on a short vacation is a good idea if you do it right way, in other words, if you are smart enough to understand your chica and the dynamics around you. Good Spanish (which I didn't have) is definitely a plus for plans like yours.

YippieKayay
10-11-16, 14:55
I know a guy that came back from DR and was showing pictures of his girlfriend. He recently bought a condo in Cabarete. Literally everyone he knew, he was showing his pictures of his girlfriend to. He said how he fell in love and sends money to her. I didn't have the heart to tell him she was still "working" I am sure she likes him, but even though I don't go to DR much, I still have seen her and this guy actually has no clue. (I have actually been with her) She gave him some bullshit story. He is a retired firemen and I know his friends have talked to him but he doesn't want to hear it.Yes, you should never ever send money. That goes straight to the novio / puto down there. You can give it to her in person but don't fall into the western union trap. Unless you want go full sugar daddy.

However, if the novio / puto starts messaging you on facebook or some other medium you should definitely talk to him. This one girl's boyfriend after a few months started getting real jealous because I managed in getting the girl to do her hair the way I like it, including the color, her nails, everything. I took her to Isla San Jose, which is a private island off the coast of Panama, and fucked her raw on a private beach during the day. The novio kept sending me photos of them together to make me jealous. I laughed. She was freaking out and begging me to block him.

The moral of this story is don't be the victim. Instead have fun, treat the girl right, and if her boyfriend starts getting jealous that means you're doing something right.

ZepFan
10-11-16, 15:00
Don't do that if they're calling themselves your novia. Be subtle. Give her some money at the end, sure, what you think is fair. Otherwise show her a good time. If you go all business when they are trying to keep things cool you risk humiliating them.Just pay her the overnight rate, daily.

You know she needs the money.

You want to take her somewhere so she's cool, you like her.

Mangers always bragging about banging for a bargain or free. All good I guess but these folks need the money.

Turgid
10-11-16, 15:14
Oh you are paying both of them Just in a different way.And many other men are paying both of them as well.

TrueScotsMan
10-11-16, 17:05
What did it translate to? It doesn't really translate but the closest thing in US English might be "Well, get a load of you!" I thought the poster's comment about "it sucks that you need a drug to help you perform" was pretty rude, and I'm a dickhead. Probably English is not his first language. I think a lot of us know that even if you don't "need" Viagra to "help you perform," it can be a handy tool. And yeah, a lot of us are old. A translator can also be a useful tool, but if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything might start to look like a nail. Translators suck because they can't handle homonyms or regionalisms, which is why I made the earlier joke about running "listo caballero" through a translator. Some hooker did that and posted the results to the board, hoping to drum up business, and it made NO sense and a pretty high level of Spanish would be needed to figure out what she meant. '.My intention wasn't to be rude, I apologize if that's how it seems. As you may figure out I'm Scottish and English unfortunately is my main language. I'm new to the his site and a newbie to Colombia. I arrive in 5 weeks and I need all the help I an get so once again I apologize. I'm 42 some may say I'm old also.

Dickhead
10-11-16, 17:17
novio / puto What are you thinking that puto means?

YippieKayay
10-11-16, 17:22
What are you thinking that puto means?Another Spanish lesson? Heh.

I've seen it used the same as the word pimp.

Rodeo9112
10-11-16, 17:32
For all the veteran Medellin mongers, can you please tell me if mongering in MDE would be any different over New Year's weekend, or if all the girls stop working to spend time with family? Just trying to plan a quick getaway for that weekend! If not MDE, maybe BOG or CLO unless there are negative predictions there as well. Thanks!

Paulie97
10-11-16, 19:46
Mongers always bragging about banging for a bargain or free. No shortage of Romeos in cyberspace, that's for sure. My favorite are the stories where the sex workers cry over them at the airport. These cyber playboys are heartless on top of it all.

Mr Enternational
10-11-16, 20:36
Another Spanish lesson? Heh.

I've seen it used the same as the word pimp.Puto used the same as pimp? Dickhead you must be paying this guy for our laughing pleasure. I guess cabron means lover. He might be better off using a translator.

Surfer500
10-11-16, 20:37
What did it translate to? It doesn't really translate but the closest thing in US English might be "Well, get a load of you!" I thought the poster's comment about "it sucks that you need a drug to help you perform" was pretty rude, and I'm a dickhead. Probably English is not his first language. I think a lot of us know that even if you don't "need" Viagra to "help you perform," it can be a handy tool. And yeah, a lot of us are old. A translator can also be a useful tool, but if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything might start to look like a nail. Translators suck because they can't handle homonyms or regionalisms, which is why I made the earlier joke about running "listo caballero" through a translator. Some hooker did that and posted the results to the board, hoping to drum up business, and it made NO sense and a pretty high level of Spanish would be needed to figure out what she meant.

So if your friend says, "I bought a new BMW for 120,000 dollars" or "I fucked Miley Cyrus last night," you could say 'Mira vos!' Does that make sense? It should literally translate as 'look at you. '.I agree with your comments regarding the poster. Probably a "young whipper snapper" feeling sorry for us old farts. You actually went pretty lightly on him using "Mira vos" in responding to his post.

Surfer500
10-11-16, 20:42
Puto used the same as pimp? Dickhead you must be paying this guy for our laughing pleasure. I guess cabron means lover. He might be better off using a translator.I don't think this poster was saying that novio and puto are the same word in Spanish but that the guys girlfriend was a working girl.

Dickhead
10-11-16, 22:45
It can mean an easy rider, according to the internet, but I have never heard it used that way and the net did not say where it had that connotation. Means a homosexual in my world.

YippieKayay
10-11-16, 22:52
It can mean an easy rider, according to the internet, but I have never heard it used that way and the net did not say where it had that connotation. Means a homosexual in my world.So if a guy says: "yo trabajaba de puto" it may mean he's a male prostitute?

And yes that's an exact quote from this guy who was the "boyfriend" of this girl I was fucking. I always thought it meant he was a pimp.

Dickhead
10-11-16, 23:44
Yes, a puto is a male prostitute. It translates as "faggot" in Argentina. It may mean pimp somewhere but I think in that context, it would just mean a guy who didn't have a job and let his girlfriend support her. However, I have never heard it used that way in any Spanish-speaking country I've been to, which is almost all of them. What country did you hear that in? "Trabajaba" is the past tense, so he may have been saying he used to be a prostitute.

YippieKayay
10-12-16, 00:05
Yes, a puto is a male prostitute. It translates as "faggot" in Argentina. It may mean pimp somewhere but I think in that context, it would just mean a guy who didn't have a job and let his girlfriend support her. However, I have never heard it used that way in any Spanish-speaking country I've been to, which is almost all of them. What country did you hear that in? "Trabajaba" is the past tense, so he may have been saying he used to be a prostitute.Venezuela. I had thought "de puto" meant "of prostitutes" meaning he was a pimp. As far as I know he's nowhere near gay. I met him a couple of times. Just typical young latino macho dude.

Dickhead
10-12-16, 00:15
Haven't been there in forty years so it could be Venezuelan slang. Usually the preposition would be 'como' (yo trabajo como cocinero) but that varies a lot from place to place. The more common word for pimp is 'chulo' in most of the places I have been. Maybe he was just jerking your chain. 'Trabajaba con putas,' meaning 'I worked with hookers,' is another way I have heard pimps describe themselves, similar to a hooker saying 'Trabajo con hombres. '.

Fun Luvr
10-12-16, 00:23
This is very very bad advice.

(1) She lied to him. She's not new to the mansion. No chica is "new" to the Mansion.Not be argumentative, but every chica who has ever worked at the Mansion was new there one time.

Barkey
10-12-16, 01:01
This is very very bad advice.

(1) She lied to him. She's not new to the mansion. No chica is "new" to the Mansion.

(2) If they play the novia game it's another lie. It just means you're getting it wholesale.

(3) Since you're paying for the trip you're not obligated to give her anything but trust me she'll bring it up in a subtle way if she needs money.

Do not under any circumstances believe a working girl who tells you she's new to the business. If they were new they would not have the nerve to tell you or go on a trip with you. She's done this before.Bad advice to find out how much she wants upfront (besides the trip and food)? It just seems kind of logical to me.

I don't think anyone will find their real novia overnight at the Mansion or any other casa in MDE or other place.

CarlosVives
10-12-16, 01:47
No shortage of Romeos in cyberspace, that's for sure. My favorite are the stories where the sex workers cry over them at the airport. These cyber playboys are heartless on top of it all.Not going to lie but my amiguita from St. Maarten who was a working girl did cry the last night I was with her. Believe it or not working girls experience the same emotions as normal women. I was seeing her for 3 months and she always stayed at my apartment on the weekends. Not all of these girls are hardened sex workers void of emotion.

Combo
10-12-16, 02:16
If you pursue this hobby a lot, from time to time you run into a girl that legitimately wants to spend time with you. IMO one needs to keep in mind what that entails. Generally the girl will dig her claws into you and not want you to bone other chicas. I've had this happen a few times, and the "free" sex usually didn't end up being worth it. A decent % of these chicas can get psycho /violent.

So if the OP goes to Cartagena with this girl for "free," he should be prepared that she might freak out seeing him with other girls at the Mansion (of course she can fuck other guys because it's her "job"). Sometimes it's better to keep things straightforward and just tell her you're going to pay her and you have no other obligation to her.


Not be argumentative, but every chica who has ever worked at the Mansion was new there one time.I'm guessing he meant it's not their first time having sex for money, which is almost always true. Viritually all girls that come to the Mansion have plied their trade somewhere else first.

Lowkey1
10-12-16, 03:41
We have all had it happen. Some pro girls try to stick it out for the big move " major pay off". Some are new to the game and if you are nice and fun then its a great exit strategy for them. I've toyed with this a few times and the free end of it never works out. Easier to pay and have zero obligation. From what I gather any normal chick not from money that is attractive will accept money for time here and there. But here is an option if you guys like playing the field then there are a few set ups where they bring 100 chicks a night that are begging to meet american men for marriage. Its fun and met a few good girls. Found 2 in columbia and 1 in Costa Rica. I am sure there are more but if you want a legit girl then I would suggest looking outside of the mansion, even though the girls there can be good. The little tours where you meet girls I'm sure with it being in Colombia that they at some point might of sold themselves but they are there to meet a good man so chances of them being legit are much better. Check out I love Latins and TLC Colombia and spanish eyes Costa Rica if you are interested.

Mr Enternational
10-12-16, 04:05
From what I gather any normal chick not from money that is attractive will accept money for time here and there.And just how did you gather that? You paint with a broad brush. That was never a normal chick to begin with.

Mr Enternational
10-12-16, 04:50
Not going to lie but my amiguita from St. Maarten who was a working girl did cry the last night I was with her. Believe it or not working girls experience the same emotions as normal women. I was seeing her for 3 months and she always stayed at my apartment on the weekends. Not all of these girls are hardened sex workers void of emotion.Well they are good actors as well. I am reminded of the Rio days. I met a chick on Cupid who had confessed to being a former hooker but said she had squared up and was working in an office. This was back when msn messenger was the way to communicate. So we were talking getting to know each other and the next time I went to Rio she came and stayed with me. She wanted me to go to Rio Sul mall with her so she could buy a washer and dryer. She had a fat knot (which she said her dad gave her to buy the appliances) but they did not have the one that was in the sales paper that she had brought along. A bait and switch thing.

So I went back to the States and we continued to get to know each other. The next time I went to Rio (which was not long after) I did not let her know. One night I went up and stood at my normal spot in front of Help Disco next to the door. Guess who walks up to go into the club? She felt ashamed as shit and kept trying to explain herself. Then she asked if she could go back with me. NOPE.

So how are you to discern whether they are displaying genuine emotion for you or just acting? Why even take the chance? Just get a chick who you know is not a hooker. Or is that not possible? Because if you can not get a normal chick to display emotion like that for you, then you can pretty much guarantee yourself that the hooker you thought was in love with you is full of shit. Or better yet, stop giving them money and see how much emotion they still have for you.

P.S. I used to cry on cue (by keeping my eyes open and staring at one spot - just did the shit right now; I still got it) when running game on chicks. That means jack shit.

Dickhead
10-12-16, 05:00
I used to cry on cue when running game on chicks.That is pathetic.

CarlosVives
10-12-16, 05:12
Well they are good actors as well. I am reminded of the Rio days. I met a chick on Cupid who had confessed to being a former hooker but said she had squared up and was working in an office. This was back when msn messenger was the way to communicate. So we were talking getting to know each other and the next time I went to Rio she came and stayed with me. She wanted me to go to Rio Sul mall with her so she could buy a washer and dryer. She had a fat knot (which she said her dad gave her to buy the appliances) but they did not have the one that was in the sales paper that she had brought along. A bait and switch thing.

So I went back to the States and we continued to get to know each other. The next time I went to Rio (which was not long after) I did not let her know. One night I went up and stood at my normal spot in front of Help Disco next to the door. Guess who walks up to go into the club? She felt ashamed as shit and kept trying to explain herself. Then she asked if she could go back with me. NOPE..She was my amiguita, we were amigos con derechos, friends with benefits. As I already said in a previous post I was only paying the house multa $70 per shift and they have two shifts per day (she gets none of it) and she would stay at my apartment from Friday to Sunday. I wasn't giving her money. The in (ability) or limited ability to express emotion is only found in psychopaths and people who fall under the Autism spectrum of diseases. Whether or not you believe an emotion is real is not the issue. The issue is circumstance. She would have not gained anything by crying. It wasn't even a full on cry. She softly sobbed into the pillow the got up and immediately went to the bathroom. She tried to hide it but couldn't. The fact that I even have to explain how emotions work to you is disturbing. That was the last time I saw her.

Paulie97
10-12-16, 05:16
Not going to lie but my amiguita from St. Maarten who was a working girl did cry the last night I was with her. Believe it or not working girls experience the same emotions as normal women. I was seeing her for 3 months and she always stayed at my apartment on the weekends. Not all of these girls are hardened sex workers void of emotion.Thanks for sharing, and yes, the Casanova phenomenon is alive and well in cyberspace. Make no mistake about it, and especially in forums such as these.

Probably the most entertaining aspect of the crying tales are the vigorous arguments put forth to defend such reports. Is a highly underestimated, undervalued aspect of message board lore, Cudos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjMNOouIb0k

YippieKayay
10-12-16, 14:57
Bad advice to find out how much she wants upfront (besides the trip and food)? It just seems kind of logical to me.Not at all. In your original post you were trying to probe if this woman had feelings for the guy (or I thought you were). That's the part I thought was bad. My only problem with asking up front is that the girl might be humiliated. Best to just give them what you think is reasonable in the end. That's how I do it. It's completely correct to assume taking a girl on a nice trip (especially outside of Colombia) is special for her, and she will enjoy herself.

There's been some discussion here on emotions during these trips, and even violence. My own observation is that a girl crying, or getting angry all of a sudden may have nothing to do with the guy she's taking the trip with. Something else might be going on in her life that she's not talking about. Also, if you see sudden fits of rage that seem like over reactions it's usually because the girl is having trouble coping with reality. I forgot the term for it in psychiatry. It's essentially when reality and perception don't align and the person realizes it. So she might get a dirty look from a waiter for hanging out with her old sex tourist boyfriend and that could set it off for the rest of the trip. Only because she convinced herself prior to heading out that the trip would really be a magical romantic affair.

I've only had one chica pull a knife on me before (and she swung a beer bottle at my head), on a trip, and I just called COPA and bought her a ticket back the next day. I don't think she would have hurt me physically. I think she was behaving the same way she behaves with her novio because a few minutes later she ran to bed and stared crying. The entire thing was surreal. I was sitting on the coach the entire time. It was like watching a one-man soap opera, heh.

Anyway good stuff. This certainly generated a lot of discussion.

Turgid
10-12-16, 15:22
No shortage of Romeos in cyberspace, that's for sure. My favorite are the stories where the sex workers cry over them at the airport. These cyber playboys are heartless on top of it all.Many "cyber playboys" are also one week millionaires and pay these chicas good money. I could well understand why they would cry at the airport.

Mr Enternational
10-12-16, 16:29
She was my amiguita, we were amigos con derechos, friends with benefits. As I already said in a previous post I was only paying the house multa $70 per shift and they have two shifts per day (she gets none of it) and she would stay at my apartment from Friday to Sunday. I wasn't giving her money. It is hard to believe that a known hooker is going to leave work and stay with someone for free on their busiest days, but I guess stranger things have happened. I know if a chick told me to skip work for 3 days every week and come stay with her then I would look at her like she had 3 titties.

Surfer500
10-12-16, 17:14
I've only had one chica pull a knife on me before (and she swung a beer bottle at my head), on a trip, and I just called COPA and bought her a ticket back the next day. I don't think she would have hurt me physically. I think she was behaving the same way she behaves with her novio because a few minutes later she ran to bed and stared crying. The entire thing was surreal. I was sitting on the coach the entire time. It was like watching a one-man soap opera, heh.Anyway good stuff. This certainly generated a lot of discussion.Man I don't know how you can be with a Chica that pulls a knife on you and swings beer bottles at you. The worst I've ever had a Chica do is tear up some clothes I gave her in a rage and when this happened I cut her loose immediately.

My bet is the sex must of been off the charts with her. Some of the whacky / psycho Chicas can get pretty wild which can be very hard to resist, at least that has been my personal experience.

Your lucky this Chica didn't cut your dick off while you were sleeping, I would stay away from her, unless the sex is so incredible you can't resist and are willing to take the chance that something horrible could happen!

Lowkey1
10-12-16, 17:52
Let me rephrase any normal girl working a normal job that is pretty dabbles in play to pay in Colombia. Its way more normal and acceptable in Colombia.


And just how did you gather that? You paint with a broad brush. That was never a normal chick to begin with.

Lowkey1
10-12-16, 18:05
I love you guys are calling out the on line casanovas, the 5 day millionaire etc etc. For some people its a fantasy island, then back to reality. Everyone wants to feel special and unique. I have seen guys get pissed when they TLN a chick and next day she is hanging on someone else. I think to myself "did he actually think he was special?" They all are good actresses and that's part of the reason you go there. You feel special, you feel wanted, you bag a smoking hot chick, she does what you want, and its really not expensive. I saw this old man down at the mansion bragging to us he had a girlfriend there and he cheated on her with 2 chicks, like he was some sort of big deal. He was old and fat and shuffled around. He just wanted to be one the boys getting girls. Deep down this is probably the guy that cries. You got to remember this is probably the only way a majority of the people get ass, so this is it. One day ill be 65 sitting in the mansion with 100 MG of viagra flowing and some young hottie bouncing on it and ill run to the breakfast table to tell the tales of the night before with all the other guys. Just remember, its not hard to get one of these girls for free, but deep down, is it worth it? Is it really free if your going out to eat and running around in taxis etc, its all relative.

Again. I pose the question. Is there another "mansion" somewhere else? The friendships, the girls, the set up. Its all great. The only place close it GIottos spot in Thailand, but girls are falling out of trees there so not exactly hard to line it up and its so busy you don't really want to stay put in Bangkok.

Dickhead
10-12-16, 18:07
Blackbeard's in the DR might qualify.

YippieKayay
10-12-16, 18:12
Again. I pose the question. Is there another "mansion" somewhere else? The friendships, the girls, the set up. Its all great. The only place close it GIottos spot in Thailand, but girls are falling out of trees there so not exactly hard to line it up and its so busy you don't really want to stay put in Bangkok.Habanos bar and Veneto Casino in Panama City. Stay at the Hyatt. They are both 5 minutes walking distance from the Hyatt which is chica friendly.

Average price is $100 USD for an hour. There's more in the Panama forum. Only problem with PC is that it's mostlwhy boring during the day, but ItalianGringo mentioned Medellin was also kinda boring during the day.

Mr Enternational
10-12-16, 20:26
Habanos bar and Veneto Casino in Panama City. Stay at the Hyatt. They are both 5 minutes walking distance from the Hyatt which is chica friendly.I think you misunderstood his question. He wants to know if there are places where you stay that have P4 P chicas on the premises. Herman closed or sold Livingstone Lodge in Bangkok. Like DH said there is Blackbeards and Field of Dreams in Puerto Plata. There was a place on Margarita Island but I think that guy got busted. Then there is the place in Costa Rica.

Dickhead
10-12-16, 20:54
What place in Costa Rica? Not aware of any that are private, like the Mansion. Do you mean La Amistad? Because there are many places in Costa Rica with "house chicas," but as far as I know any dickhead can walk into any of them, unlike Medellíand Mansion or my understanding of the two places you mention in the DR. Of those two, I heard FOD was somewhat moribund at this point.

There are hotels all over the world with hookers you can take to your room if you are staying there, or take somewhere else. I think the question is about places where if you stay there, only the people who stay there have access to the hookers. If anyone wants a hotel to stay at with tons of hot hookers, I would recommend Scandic hotel in Tallinn, Estonia, but there is nothing private about it.

Mr Enternational
10-12-16, 21:07
Let me rephrase any normal girl working a normal job that is pretty dabbles in play to pay in Colombia. Its way more normal and acceptable in Colombia.Yep. It is that exact same thinking that got Cuba Dave put in jail. Board member Frenzy in the Philippines locked up. Peter in Sosua arrested. David in Peru under the jail. And didn't someone not too long ago post about a guy who was on some university campus passing out flyers who got what...incarcerated? Get out to meet some regular people then get back to me.

Mr Enternational
10-12-16, 21:23
I think the question is about places where if you stay there, only the people who stay there have access to the hookers.I do not think there is anywhere that if you are not staying there then you do not get access to the hookers. You may have to pay an entry fee or may have to pay the house a fee for the chick to leave. But you can for sure get a chick there. (Not sure why you would want to. Chicks can be found much cheaper outside of such establishments.) Money talks and bullshit walks.

Dickhead
10-12-16, 21:36
Well, no, what got all of those people incarcerated was trying to make money off of pussy. Anyone with half a brain knows that pussy costs money, always and everywhere. And anyone with three quarters of a brain knows that 'free' pussy is approximately 2 to 3 times as expensive. All those people, a couple of whom I know, tried to either make a net profit or at least defray their pussy expenses. So take some advice, or don't, from someone who has been using hookers for 45 years now. Forget TLN. Forget taking hookers on trips. Forget the whole non-existent concept of 'semi-pros. ' Confine your activities to where prostitution is legal, don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the locals' pond, be very careful about taking photos and what you do with them, and don't develop hubris because you have been getting away with X for why length of time. Review the story of Icarus. None of us has wings, and to the extent we think we do, they are for sure made of wax. If you can't afford it, work and save until you can. Don't try to short cut by shilling or pimping. The former makes you a douche bag and the latter might make you end up in some really bad places. Like Devoto in Argentina. Look it up. A guy I know is in there now for thinking he could just 'introduce some friends to some friends' and just take a little bit of a cut on the deal.

Dickhead
10-12-16, 21:39
I do not think there is anywhere that if you are not staying there then you do not get access to the hookers. You may have to pay an entry fee or may have to pay the house a fee for the chick to leave. But you can for sure get a chick there. (Not sure why you would want to. Chicks can be found much cheaper outside of such establishments.) Money talks and bullshit walks.If you do not stay at the Mansion in Medellin, you do not get in. Period. End of story. You are getting yourself into a hole like Trump so you need to throw your shovel away and stop digging.

Mr Enternational
10-12-16, 22:16
Well, no, what got all of those people incarcerated was trying to make money off of pussy. Exactly. Because their thinking was that it is way more normal and acceptable so why not try to make some money off of it.

Surfer500
10-12-16, 23:30
If you do not stay at the Mansion in Medellin, you do not get in. Period. End of story. You are getting yourself into a hole like Trump so you need to throw your shovel away and stop digging.Nothing against the Mansion, but seems lots of posts seem to revolve around the Mansion. Perhaps it's time it had it's own thread on this Forum like other business's do on other Forums.

Combo
10-13-16, 00:13
If you do not stay at the Mansion in Medellin, you do not get in. Period. End of story. You are getting yourself into a hole like Trump so you need to throw your shovel away and stop digging.Exception to the rule is if one is a select close friend of Greg or Robert.

Viajando Musico
10-13-16, 01:54
I just got back from my 2nd trip to Medellin in 3 months. Although the main purpose of both trips were not mongering, I managed to check out many places still on my spare time.

Casa de cita, this is the best value of the mongering venue in Medellin. Quality of chicas varied from casa to casa, and from time to time. But often, one can find a hidden gem. I hit these casas on both of my trips and had satisfactory experiences on all encounters and half of them excellent. There are drawbacks as well. Most of these casas are located on average to rough neighborhood, so safety should not be overlooked when taking a tour of these casas. They only operate during the day, and mostly close on Sundays. Some Spanish skill is a prerequisite for full enjoyment with the chicas.

I want to especially mention this place called casa de piedra on Av. Oriental #50 a-54, a large private residence run by Nanci. This is a very interesting establishment. I don't know if this has always been a casa de chicas or it was transferred from a private residence into a working girl house? Nanci always has a few girls on premises, and she can call many more who live nearby. I went there on my first trip, but arrive too early that girls were not ready for a presentation. I didn't want to wait for her to call in girls from outside, so left. This time, I went there around 9 PM. There were only 2 girls at the premises, but she called this 18 year old blond who arrived in about 15 minutes, a stunning 8. 5 beautiful paisa whose name escaped me. The section was slightly above average, but nothing to write home about. And it was after I put up my best act in Spanish that warmed her up. I could image a cold section if I don't speak Spanish. I think the chica cost was 220 k, but Nanci will automatically pour a drink for the girl without your approval, a whisky in my case. At the end, the damage for the hour fun came out to be 290 K, very expensive in Medellin standard. I think she has a couple diamonds in her stable, but I probably won't go back since I felt ripped off for the drinks I didn't order and her other girls are just average that you can find in other places with lower prices.

Strip clubs, I went to Luna Luneta and Face Dos on 2 separate nights but had similar experience on both clubs. Average quality of chicas is higher in these clubs than in the casas, but same goes for the cost. With the cover, drinks, constant demand for tips from stripping dancers and finally the cost for doing the deed with the girls in their facility, the total can come out to be many times more than the cost at the casas. On both occasions, I chose and paid for one hour with the girls instead of a quick 30 min. Section, and both times, the phone rang in less than 40 min. These setups definitely cater to richer locals and foreigners, but to me, not as good value as the casas. The best option in these places is to go there late and stay until they close. Strike a deal with the girls privately and take them somewhere when they get off from work. A couple girls suggested this option, but I had to politely decline them due to my compromiso the following morning.

There are a couple higher end massage places I wanted to try, but couldn't find time to do so, Thai Spa and Energy. I will keep them on my to-do list next trip.

I didn't feel the need to stay at the Mansion, so have no experience with them. I believe there is a value to the convenience they provide for guys who don't want to deal with the all the hassles.

World Traveler was kind enough to send me his map of interesting places in Medellin on my second trip. It is a great tool and saved me tons of time in looking up places.

To me, I think Medellin is overhyped as a top mongering destination. It is if you live here permanently or stay for extended period of time, and have built up a network of willing chicas at your disposal. For lone travelers who only come here for a few days, I think many other cities are just as good or better. As some posters said very recently that lack of other activities can really limit the fun Medellin offers. Safety, especially in the area where our hobby takes place, is always a big concern. I feel more comfortable walking round the rough neighborhood in Casco Viejo in Panama City than in el Centro, Medellin. I do agree Colombian women are among the most beautiful women in the world, and Medellin certainly is filled with a lot of them. Paisas are very proud of their beauty. Take a look at the runners on the blocked street in front of Santa Fe Mall on Sunday morning or hang around at the bars of restaurants in Poblado on weekends and you will know what I mean. For me, I would rather come here to enjoy the beauty of Paisa, moderate and comfortable weather year round, reasonable good quality food and hotel and friendly people instead of holding high expectation and make big efforts to come here for mongering.

Knoteebuoy
10-13-16, 02:27
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Would I go back A tough decision. Definitely for the women. The cost of airfare from LOS Angeles and hotels is a bargain when compared to SXM. All Good. The downside is what to do in your down time. I missed having a nice beach to hang out at during the day. If it wasn't for having a companion at my side for most of the trip I probably would have been a bit bored. But that's just me.

Anyway, I hope this info will help someone.

Barkey.Great Report; very informative. It sounds like the talent pool runs deep in Medellin. As tempting as you make it sound I'm not sure I would have the courage to venture there by myself.

Looking forward to my return trip to SXM in November. I'll have a beer or two for ya at the casa's.

Knoteebuoy.

Dickhead
10-13-16, 05:14
Nothing against the Mansion, but seems lots of posts seem to revolve around the Mansion. Perhaps it's time it had it's own thread on this Forum like other business's do on other Forums.The mansion has its own thread and has had for, oh, ten years or so now.

Fun Luvr
10-13-16, 05:16
Nothing against the Mansion, but seems lots of posts seem to revolve around the Mansion. Perhaps it's time it had it's own thread on this Forum like other business's do on other Forums.There is already a Mansion thread, been active for a long time. Scroll down the Colombia page, it's "Casa Blanca Medellin" in the "User Blog" section.

Surfer500
10-13-16, 05:24
The mansion has its own thread and has had for, oh, ten years or so now.Interesting it's kind of like they actually have one and a half threads with all the press their getting on the Medellin thread.

YippieKayay
10-13-16, 15:01
Man I don't know how you can be with a Chica that pulls a knife on you and swings beer bottles at you. The worst I've ever had a Chica do is tear up some clothes I gave her in a rage and when this happened I cut her loose immediately.

My bet is the sex must of been off the charts with her. Some of the whacky / psycho Chicas can get pretty wild which can be very hard to resist, at least that has been my personal experience.
She was worth it. She did some crazy shit. If I went to the bathroom in the middle of the night, I'd find her bent over at the bathroom's doorway, or she'd run up to the sink, plant her leg on top and give me the dirtiest look. I've never in my life encountered a woman so ready to get fucked. At meals she'd insist on feeding me, and doing all kinds of sexy shit. All this was raw bareback.

Her novio knocked her up recently, so the adventure is over. No not my kid. I hadn't seen her for a few months before she got her ultrasound so I know its his.



Your lucky this Chica didn't cut your dick off while you were sleeping, I would stay away from her, unless the sex is so incredible you can't resist and are willing to take the chance that something horrible could happen!She never actually made any physical contact. She would just lose her shit over the smallest things sometimes. If she ever got stressed she'd start telling wild tales and all kinds of crazy shit. I swear if she wasn't so crazy I might have actually gotten serious with her just because it was the wildest experience of my life, haha.

Surfer500
10-13-16, 17:13
She was worth it. She did some crazy shit. If I went to the bathroom in the middle of the night, I'd find her bent over at the bathroom's doorway, or she'd run up to the sink, plant her leg on top and give me the dirtiest look. I've never in my life encountered a woman so ready to get fucked. At meals she'd insist on feeding me, and doing all kinds of sexy shit. All this was raw bareback.

Her novio knocked her up recently, so the adventure is over. No not my kid. I hadn't seen her for a few months before she got her ultrasound so I know its his.

She never actually made any physical contact. She would just lose her shit over the smallest things sometimes. If she ever got stressed she'd start telling wild tales and all kinds of crazy shit. I swear if she wasn't so crazy I might have actually gotten serious with her just because it was the wildest experience of my life, haha.After reading what you originally wrote I figured there was a reason you where with this Chica.

From what you have just described, I have been there, and it's hard to resist a Chica like this, at least for me, but can be very perilous.

YippieKayay
10-13-16, 23:18
I'm going to be in Medellin for a week in November, followed by five days in Cartagena. How is the casino scene in Medellin? Are they low key and boring?

The reason I ask is I'm starting to wonder if I should do a week in Cartagena and just five days in Medellin. From everything I've read, after doing the tourist thing Medellin can be very boring during the day.

Psychman
10-14-16, 04:03
I love you guys are calling out the on line casanovas, the 5 day millionaire etc etc. For some people its a fantasy island, then back to reality. Everyone wants to feel special and unique. I have seen guys get pissed when they TLN a chick and next day she is hanging on someone else. I think to myself "did he actually think he was special?" They all are good actresses and that's part of the reason you go there. You feel special, you feel wanted, you bag a smoking hot chick, she does what you want, and its really not expensive. I saw this old man down at the mansion bragging to us he had a girlfriend there and he cheated on her with 2 chicks, like he was some sort of big deal. He was old and fat and shuffled around. He just wanted to be one the boys getting girls. Deep down this is probably the guy that cries. You got to remember this is probably the only way a majority of the people get ass, so this is it. One day ill be 65 sitting in the mansion with 100 MG of viagra flowing and some young hottie bouncing on it and ill run to the breakfast table to tell the tales of the night before with all the other guys. Just remember, its not hard to get one of these girls for free, but deep down, is it worth it? Is it really free if your going out to eat and running around in taxis etc, its all relative.

Again. I pose the question. Is there another "mansion" somewhere else? The friendships, the girls, the set up. Its all great. The only place close it GIottos spot in Thailand, but girls are falling out of trees there so not exactly hard to line it up and its so busy you don't really want to stay put in Bangkok.Good post-its all about the fantasy. Guys who are solid enough to emerse themselves in it in the moment, but know the score in the morning, do well. Regardless of the stage of life.

The only places that are close to this that I can think of are the Sportsmans Lodge in San Jose, and its a slightly different deal. Same clubby feel though, which is an essential part of both.

Hasideas Tao
10-14-16, 14:30
She was worth it. She did some crazy shit. If I went to the bathroom in the middle of the night, I'd find her bent over at the bathroom's doorway, or she'd run up to the sink, plant her leg on top and give me the dirtiest look. I've never in my life encountered a woman so ready to get fucked. At meals she'd insist on feeding me, and doing all kinds of sexy shit. All this was raw bareback.
If she ever got stressed she'd start telling wild tales and all kinds of crazy shit. I swear if she wasn't so crazy I might have actually gotten serious with her just because it was the wildest experience of my life, haha.It does not happen often but I have been there too. As I am sure many here have. Day trips, weekend trips. Spontaneous meetups. Sleeping over consecutive days or even weeks in a row. Sex anywhere anytime with intense passion. Just incredible. I described it as the most addictive drug. All this goes hand in hand with the topic of taking chicas on trips. Chicas who have grown up with little to nothing, have little to nothing to lose or have grown up under incredibly unstable circumstances that adrenaline spikes in the blood stream are what they are comfortable and accustomed to. Hence, not all, but A LOT of paisas can get pretty psycho when they think they found some security, safety and the possibility of a better life, only to find they are at risk of losing it all to some other "perra" as I have heard them call each other frequently. Then once she starts telling her family about you, they start to think what's in it for them too and you quickly see how fast they fall in love with you too. Until your generosity does not live up to their expectations. Then you have a whole family to make your life very uncomfortable simply because they have nothing better to do and they feel slighted. Be very very careful with who you wife-up to. I have found that girls with kids tend to be less crazy and unfortunately, less passionate. However, a lot of them have aunts, mothers and grandmothers who end up assuming the responsability of caring for the child because the mother is simply too immature or crazy.

I literally gave a loan to, who I thought was a great girl's, mom to put a roof / second floor on her small house. She owned a small store and asked me for a loan with a written promise to pay me back. With terms. IT was about 800 dollars. Well, the terms came and went and I was very patient and calm about the whole situation. I remained friendly and I even avoided the topic waiting for them to bring it up. Long story short, they eventiually paid me back but somehow I became the villain. Literally, in ALL subsequent interractions, I was referred to as cheap and accused of not doing anything unless there was some sort of interest in it for me. Mind you, I have brought them gifts, food, in troduced the girl to my friends along with a cheerful open attitude every time I invited the girl out or saw her family. Yet the mother, every time I would visit, would clear a space for me and literally put a fan at my side and give me a glass of her fresh juice to make me more cofortable, but never offerrred me anything from her store. I bought every beer or piece of candy from her for me and her daughter. My moral is, money is not actually the currency. Time is. The more time you spend the more obligations you assume and the more people expect from you. Be aware of who you spend too much time with. There is this guy who calls himself the dating guru, and always says, give the girl the gift of missing you. As he has described it, it means is don't let her get too comfortable. No matter how great she treats you, make her feel like she ALWAYS needs to be her best if she wants to keep you. Don't let one drop of jealousy or craziness go overlooked.

YippieKayay
10-14-16, 15:54
Hence, not all, but A LOT of paisas can get pretty psycho when they think they found some security, safety and the possibility of a better life, only to find they are at risk of losing it all to some other "perra" as I have heard them call each other frequently. Then once she starts telling her family about you, they start to think what's in it for them too and you quickly see how fast they fall in love with you too. Until your generosity does not live up to their expectations. Then you have a whole family to make your life very uncomfortable simply because they have nothing better to do and they feel slighted.
So this will blow your mind away. This chica was loaded. She came from an extremely wealthy family. They never needed shit. She had a trust fund that paid her 30 million pesos a year, an apartment, and a house all handed to her. I'm pretty sure she also got big chunks of money after she graduated and threw it all away. Her thing is she's an immature little ***** with anger management issues who thinks her shit doesn't stink. She would rather working girl herself out in Panama City for $100 a pop than use her engineering degree to get a real job.

I eventually figured she has the same issues as the bad girl pornstars who come from decent backgrounds but have daddy issues and flush their life down the toilet. I mean really, she had every advantage possible.

The thing that really put me off in the end is her getting knocked up by her novio who treats her like dirt and told her he'd never marry a puta. Instead of, you know, cutting him out of her life, she posts constant old photos of him on facebook and pretends they are together. I realized I had been fucking a person with serious mental health issues, and staying involved any longer would just escalate shit to a place I don't want to be. The pregnancy was completely planned by her. She stopped taking her pills without telling her novio. That shit is scary. I'm not sticking my dick in that snatch.

Overseer
10-17-16, 01:02
Going to Medellin in November for my 30th birthday, and been reading a lot the threads. I read that there is a map made by world traveler. However, haven't been able to find it, can anyone help?

Husker Dude
10-17-16, 04:19
Going to Medellin in November for my 30th birthday, and been reading a lot the threads. I read that there is a map made by world traveler. However, haven't been able to find it, can anyone help?Check out Medellin Lists under Colombia forum.

Willy 1
10-17-16, 06:32
Medellin Halloween Party Announcement.

TrueScotsMan
10-17-16, 17:39
Going to Medellin in November for my 30th birthday, and been reading a lot the threads. I read that there is a map made by world traveler. However, haven't been able to find it, can anyone help?I'll be there end of November, if you fancy a beer drop me a PM.

Cool
10-18-16, 09:38
I'm going to be in Medellin for a week in November, followed by five days in Cartagena. How is the casino scene in Medellin? Are they low key and boring?

The reason I ask is I'm starting to wonder if I should do a week in Cartagena and just five days in Medellin. From everything I've read, after doing the tourist thing Medellin can be very boring during the day.The casino and bingos / slots didn't seem appealing to me. If you have a Paisa to hang out with it should be a blast, but your trip is short. I would do Cartagena if you have been to Medellin before. But most of my friend says its more expensive and MDE wins.

ZepFan
10-18-16, 16:15
Girls that advertise as "Pre Pagos," want the money before services rendered?

Pargue Lleras sounds like a fun place to hang.

Not mentioned at all hear, maybe forum rules. But I hear you will be approached a lot for 420 / skiing supplies on the street. True?

I usually wear a western sombrero. Do many guys wear cowboy hats in MDE as they do throughout Mex. & Guat? Might leave it at home as I don't want to be the 6'2" we do that sticks out like a sore thumb.

Or could I be noticed in a good way?

Advantages to changing currency $1000. Usd over using ATM daily? I got a Schwab card.

Any guys use Mileroticos to call in girls or get taxi to girls incall?

Hotel Medellin Plaza. Casa Blanca. Mansion all one and the same?

Thanks, I've searched the shit out of this forum and can't find these answers. Couple weeks and I'm there!

Lmarcone
10-18-16, 17:52
Could it be because Viagra's patent has expired but Cialis's has not? You wouldn't think Colombia would give a shit about patents, though. Cialis gives me the shits, although I only have an "n" of 2. I know in Argentina, you can get Cialis without a prescription, whereas Viagra in theory requires a prescription, but you can only get brand name Cialis. No generic exists there. That's why I'm guessing it's a patent issue.There is generic tadalafil now everywhere- the patent has expired.

You Can
10-18-16, 18:26
I never went to any casinos in Medellin. There are a few nice ones in Cartagena. I been to Medellin a few times and I think 3 or 4 days there is more then enough. I prefer wed, Thur., Fri., and maybe Saturday. More then that it's not for me. It's a big city and unless you know your way around it can be pretty fucked up. Also I am not into daytime cases so other then walking around during the day there is not much to do.

For me the night life there was great. I always rent a nice condo and head out every night to the wee hours and always had a great time partying and bringing a girl home for a few hours. But day times sucked for me and I don't sleep long hours so even though I would be out late I would still be up early, then later take a nap. Night time is really fun.

I definitely prefer Cartagena to Medellin mainly to walk beach, check out bikini clad women etc. I don't care the water sucks etc etc. I don't go in the water I just like walking for miles on the beach and grabbing a beer at small huts.

I go nuts in Medellin during the day!

But everyone one is different. You know yourself the best. I did like the weather in Medellin. It can be really hot in Cartagena where as Medellin weather was cool and breezy.

Good Luck.


I'm going to be in Medellin for a week in November, followed by five days in Cartagena. How is the casino scene in Medellin? Are they low key and boring?

The reason I ask is I'm starting to wonder if I should do a week in Cartagena and just five days in Medellin. From everything I've read, after doing the tourist thing Medellin can be very boring during the day.

Mr Enternational
10-18-16, 19:48
I usually wear a western sombrero. Do many guys wear cowboy hats in MDE as they do throughout Mex. & Guat? Only on Halloween or any other occasion that they want to look like a plum fool. Google fotos Medellin Centro and see what you come up with.

Tryntry
10-18-16, 23:04
I've stepped foot in a few casinos in centro, and I do recall they are just parlors full of slot machines. Didn't see any tables games.

CTG is a different story, I did see table games and an occasional game of poker.

Mr Enternational
10-19-16, 02:40
I've stepped foot in a few casinos in centro, and I do recall they are just parlors full of slot machines. Didn't see any tables games.Did you try going upstairs? The casino downtown that I always go eat in has gaming tables upstairs before you get to the restaurant. What does it take for a casino to not be boring? All of them are boring to me.

Barkey
10-19-16, 04:37
I've stepped foot in a few casinos in centro, and I do recall they are just parlors full of slot machines. Didn't see any tables games.

CTG is a different story, I did see table games and an occasional game of poker.We went into one casino near the Santa Fe mall, close to Starbucks / Krispy Creme. Besides the slots there were 4-5 blackjack tables and a roulette table at the far end. A few people at each table. I recall 20 K minimum. Also, as you enter on the right hand side there was a "high limit" room. No one there though.

Fun Luvr
10-19-16, 05:26
1. Girls that advertise as "Pre Pagos," want the money before services rendered?

2. Pargue Lleras sounds like a fun place to hang.

3. Not mentioned at all hear, maybe forum rules. But I hear you will be approached a lot for 420 / skiing supplies on the street. True?

4. I usually wear a western sombrero. Do many guys wear cowboy hats in MDE as they do throughout Mex. & Guat? Might leave it at home as I don't want to be the 6'2" we do that sticks out like a sore thumb.

Or could I be noticed in a good way?

5. Advantages to changing currency $1000. Usd over using ATM daily? I got a Schwab card.

6. Any guys use Mileroticos to call in girls or get taxi to girls incall?

7. Hotel Medellin Plaza. Casa Blanca. Mansion all one and the same?

Thanks, I've searched the shit out of this forum and can't find these answers. Couple weeks and I'm there!I numbered your questions so that anyone can follow my responses.

1. I have never had an independent chica in Medellin ask for the money upfront. Casas make their own rules, but I don't think any are out to rip you off.

2. There are many USA Style restaurants around Parque Llerus. Standard prices for food and drinks are a little more there than most other areas. Many restaurants have reduced prices in the afternoon. In the evenings, there are almost always many people there. I have seen some working chicas there, but none that caused my heart to flutter. I am usually out of that area by 10 or 11 pm, so that may be a reason.

3. I have never been approached for that purpose.

4. I think you should leave the cowboy hat at home.

5. No advantages at all, but quite a few disadvantages. You will get a better exchange rate at an ATM, you will not have a large amount of money on you or where you are staying, ATM's are more convenient than cambios, you can take advantage of fluctuations in the exchange rate by using an ATM (that can be good and bad, just like the stock market). I have noticed the ATM's give an exchange rate tied to the previous day's market rate, so that may help you.

6. I have never used Mileroticas, but I have read reports from guys who have used them. All good reports as best I remember.

7. All the same place. You can add Hotel M to that list. They change the name quite often.

NoMarriage
10-19-16, 06:29
First I have to say the girls are a lot prettier IMHO than in Tijuana. Flew in and no problems with taxis from the airport to the Poblado area. All the facebook contacts are getting old and I see one. She was so nice. Stayed way past the time and hanged out with me. In park Lleras there are two streets perpendicular to each other where the prepagos stand. They all know each other and there is one liquor store in the park area with the trees where they all hang out.

2nd girl I got was supposedly new in my apartment complex. More on the white side and she was great too. Ill post pics but I don't want my junk showing. We actually hung out at Santa Fe mall, when to Santo Domingo for the metro.

Now people are suggesting I go Fase 2.

I am looking for the really high end ones. Someone please PM me where to find the high end ones. I like they ones that look very European.

You Can
10-19-16, 11:31
I will also answer 2 of your questions as other member did. I like his thought of numbering them.

#3 yes if you are out at night, you will definitely be asked if you want to make a purchase. I been there 3 times and it's all over the place.

#4 yes I agree leave the cowboy hat at home.

If it's your first time I guess Medellin hotel or whatever it's called is good, but I don't speak espanol and I just rented a nice condo off Airbnb or whatever it's called. I prefer a condo because I like to make my Martini through out the day and I didn't have a doorman. I party hard but am street smart and know how to maneuver around. But I don't recommend this if your not sure of scams and doping.

Good Luck with your trip and you can always pm me.


Girls that advertise as "Pre Pagos," want the money before services rendered?

Pargue Lleras sounds like a fun place to hang.

Not mentioned at all hear, maybe forum rules. But I hear you will be approached a lot for 420 / skiing supplies on the street. True?

I usually wear a western sombrero. Do many guys wear cowboy hats in MDE as they do throughout Mex. & Guat? Might leave it at home as I don't want to be the 6'2" we do that sticks out like a sore thumb.

Or could I be noticed in a good way?

Advantages to changing currency $1000. Usd over using ATM daily? I got a Schwab card.

Any guys use Mileroticos to call in girls or get taxi to girls incall?

Hotel Medellin Plaza. Casa Blanca. Mansion all one and the same?

Thanks, I've searched the shit out of this forum and can't find these answers. Couple weeks and I'm there!

CincyVirgo
10-19-16, 13:02
Only on Halloween or any other occasion that they want to look like a plum fool. Google fotos Medellin Centro and see what you come up with.You want to dress classy in MDE or your really going to stand out as a tourist. Don't wear shorts either, unless your working out. I always recommend to go to google maps, and street view. And dress as the locals do.

But seriously don't wear shorts, or sandals. My local friends there laugh about how shitty tourists look all the time.

I don't think I saw many hats, especially cowboy hats.

It's great town though, make sure to venture out and go to places like Trilogia Live Bar or something.

LVMonger
10-19-16, 22:34
Ladies.

We all know about the Casas and the pros and where to find them. This report is not about those venues, instead I look for the nonpros and your avarage teen in the street from the barrios.Thanks for sharing your alternate approach to mongering BrasilSoccer, I'm sure that you get great pleasure from all aspects of "The Hunt" rather than just laying your money down for a short time event.

Over the years, I got so bored with brothels and clubs that I began to learn the village life in places like the Philippines. In time I got brave and would sometimes approach college girls (18+, of course).

Even when they were walking in the mall with their Aunts or Mothers. I received some hateful looks from the Aunties but also came away with cp #'s at times. That's not so bad for a guy in his 50's, right?

As in your case, sometimes you must play the seduction game for a while but. What is the hurry? When we final get the goal, it's a much better experience than what a professional can provide. That's my experience anyway.

I'll visit Medellin soon and I hope I can have some success there with "regular" girls.

Best regards.

Knowledge
10-19-16, 22:40
Some people prefer loud music and hookers in the casino. You won't find much of either in Medellin casinos.


Did you try going upstairs? The casino downtown that I always go eat in has gaming tables upstairs before you get to the restaurant. What does it take for a casino to not be boring? All of them are boring to me.

World Travel 69
10-20-16, 16:04
1. Blue Space, Carrera 43 A # 1-41, El Poblado. Tel: 266 45 30. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU1p3ClQV0s.

2. Gran Casino, Calle 4 Sur # 43 A-27. Tel: 312 83 70. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g297478-d7658376-Reviews-Gran_Casino_Medellin-Medellin_Antioquia_Department.html.

3. Havana Casino, In front of the Oviedo Mall, between Poblado and Aguacatala. Tel: 313 29 23.

4. Portofino Casino, Carrera 43 A # 1 Sur 106. Tel: 311 45 57. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1lBk9HBKFE.

5. Allegre Casino, In the Premium Plaza Shopping Center, Carrera 43 A (Av. El Poblado) and Calle 30. Nice Casino with No Smoking. https://www.facebook.com/casinoallegremedellin.

Expedia says there are 77 casinos in El Poblado.


I'm going to be in Medellin for a week in November, followed by five days in Cartagena. How is the casino scene in Medellin? Are they low key and boring?

The reason I ask is I'm starting to wonder if I should do a week in Cartagena and just five days in Medellin. From everything I've read, after doing the tourist thing Medellin can be very boring during the day.

YippieKayay
10-20-16, 17:10
1. Blue Space, Carrera 43 A # 1-41, El Poblado. Tel: 266 45 30. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU1p3ClQV0s.
Interestingly on google maps it shows Casino San Fernando at this location, but it may be there as well.



Expedia says there are 77 casinos in El Poblado.Yes, and they're a ***** to find on google maps. Mostly Google's database doesn't list all the businesses in Medellin.

Thanks World Travel 69!

You Can
10-20-16, 17:17
Excellent advice, dressing nice is rule number one. It goes a long way with projecting yourself in a positive way. Sneakers and shorts doesn't cut it with Colombian women whether working girls or not. I have seen on more then one occasion a Colombian working woman turn down a potential customer because he looked like a clown.


You want to dress classy in MDE or your really going to stand out as a tourist. Don't wear shorts either, unless your working out. I always recommend to go to google maps, and street view. And dress as the locals do.

But seriously don't wear shorts, or sandals. My local friends there laugh about how shitty tourists look all the time.

I don't think I saw many hats, especially cowboy hats.

It's great town though, make sure to venture out and go to places like Trilogia Live Bar or something.

CPlusPlus
10-20-16, 18:58
IDK about you guys but I do think that you are all exaggerating in telling someone to dress in a specific way or otherwise you will be socially "outcast". I may not go the whole NFL Jersey with shorts and sandals route, but I don't dress like the average Colombian (I usually wear skinny denim jeans, a regular t-shirt, pair of Jordan's and usually with a snap back or fitting cap.) I certainly have not had problems with getting pussy non-pro or pro.

BayBoy
10-20-16, 22:37
I've been to el centro Medellin a numerous amount of times and I can tell you, there's a lot of more casinos there than the ones my good friend World Travel 69 has listed. Most are smallish and only offer slots and not much more. And to Mr. Enternational casinos are boring when you lose; when you win money the world is a wonderful place.


1. Blue Space, Carrera 43 A # 1-41, El Poblado. Tel: 266 45 30. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU1p3ClQV0s.

2. Gran Casino, Calle 4 Sur # 43 A-27. Tel: 312 83 70. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g297478-d7658376-Reviews-Gran_Casino_Medellin-Medellin_Antioquia_Department.html.

3. Havana Casino, In front of the Oviedo Mall, between Poblado and Aguacatala. Tel: 313 29 23.

4. Portofino Casino, Carrera 43 A # 1 Sur 106. Tel: 311 45 57. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1lBk9HBKFE.

5. Allegre Casino, In the Premium Plaza Shopping Center, Carrera 43 A (Av. El Poblado) and Calle 30. Nice Casino with No Smoking. https://www.facebook.com/casinoallegremedellin.

Expedia says there are 77 casinos in El Poblado.

BayBoy
10-20-16, 22:57
In some Latin countries (Peru, Costa Rica etc.) and in the Caribbean there's casinos where you can bet on US baseball, basketball, football games etc. But I never found that in Colombia. Also, I like to play video blackjack, but never found that in Colombia.

But in el centro Medellin there a whole bunch of small casinos, mostly only doing the slot thing.

NoMarriage
10-21-16, 07:15
I am to tag along with some buddies to go the Buenos Aires area bars and discos. I know its dangerous and wanted to know I can tag along in a group. Or can someone give me some information on the area?

Black Page
10-21-16, 11:00
In some Latin countries (Peru, Costa Rica etc.) and in the Caribbean there's casinos where you can bet on US baseball, basketball, football games etc. But I never found that in Colombia. Also, I like to play video blackjack, but never found that in Colombia.
But in el centro Medellin there a whole bunch of small casinos, mostly only doing the slot thing.There are a couple of casinos in Bocagrande, Cartagena. They look big seen from outside, but I never went inside. See below why.


And to Mr. Enternational casinos are boring when you lose; when you win money the world is a wonderful place.The latter happens on a minority of cases, and never in the long term. It's pure math.

Therefore, the only way to be not bored over a time extent lasting at least one hour is to STAY AWAY from casinos. (I know I cannot convince those who spend hours there, instead).

Black Page
10-21-16, 11:01
IDK about you guys but I do think that you are all exaggerating in telling someone to dress in a specific way or otherwise you will be socially "outcast".A Texan cowboy dressing cowboy boots and cowboy hat looks wonderful in a bar of Austin and will get lots of positive attention by Austin girls there, but if he dares to go strolling adorned like that around streets of El Prado, as well as in Parque LLeras, the only word that will come to the mind of people seeing him will be "CARNIVAL??"

Imagine a boy dressed for the gay parade in Paris (France, not Texas) and teletransport him to Des Moines Main St. (there must be a "Main St. " also in Des Moines). Then you get the picture of people staring at him.

The intention of guys telling someone to not dress in such an eccentric way is totally positively oriented to avoid such a weird effect.

ZepFan
10-21-16, 15:41
A Texan cowboy dressing cowboy boots and cowboy hat looks wonderful in a bar of Austin and will get lots of positive attention by Austin girls there, but if he dares to go strolling adorned like that around streets of El Prado, as well as in Parque LLeras, the only word that will come to the mind of people seeing him will be "CARNIVAL??"

Imagine a boy dressed for the gay parade in Paris (France, not Texas) and teletransport him to Des Moines Main St. (there must be a "Main St. " also in Des Moines). Then you get the picture of people staring at him.

The intention of guys telling someone to not dress in such an eccentric way is totally positively oriented to avoid such a weird effect.Thank you for the advise! I was thinking the hat might be a bit much. In Mexico and Guatemala it is acceptable and common.

My only nice footwear I have are my boots. Chicks usually dig them, they comment on it so hope it's the same in Col. Footwear is important to girls. Had more than one girls tell me the look at the foot wear as much as say the face.

Great form, big help. 12 days and counting.

LifeIsABeach
10-22-16, 08:05
I am to tag along with some buddies to go the Buenos Aires area bars and discos. I know its dangerous and wanted to know I can tag along in a group. Or can someone give me some information on the area?Go to the Argentina forum. There is plenty of information there. Argentina is not dangerous. Word of advice. Stay away from strip bars. Total con and you'll be stripped of all your money.

NoMarriage
10-22-16, 08:42
Go to the Argentina forum. There is plenty of information there. Argentina is not dangerous. Word of advice. Stay away from strip bars. Total con and you'll be stripped of all your money.Buenos Aires area en Medellin area. That's where you go to find the really young pretty girls but I heard they rob you here and its dangerous. Any Pros want to chime in?

Balboa
10-22-16, 13:13
I am to tag along with some buddies to go the Buenos Aires area bars and discos. I know its dangerous and wanted to know I can tag along in a group. Or can someone give me some information on the area?



Go to the Argentina forum. There is plenty of information there. Argentina is not dangerous. Word of advice. Stay away from strip bars. Total con and you'll be stripped of all your money.Hahaha, you think just maybe he was talking about the Buenos Aires barrio in Medellin?

(Good advice though about the little strip / clip joints in BA Argentina).

The Tall Man
10-22-16, 16:35
A Texan cowboy dressing cowboy boots and cowboy hat looks wonderful in a bar of Austin and will get lots of positive attention by Austin girls there, but if he dares to go strolling adorned like that around streets of El Prado, as well as in Parque LLeras, the only word that will come to the mind of people seeing him will be "CARNIVAL??"

Imagine a boy dressed for the gay parade in Paris (France, not Texas) and teletransport him to Des Moines Main St. (there must be a "Main St. " also in Des Moines). Then you get the picture of people staring at him.

The intention of guys telling someone to not dress in such an eccentric way is totally positively oriented to avoid such a weird effect.Spot on advice and perfect analogy.

TTM.

Guillermo
10-22-16, 18:28
Buenos Aires area en Medellin area. That's where you go to find the really young pretty girls but I heard they rob you here and its dangerous. Any Pros want to chime in? In the absence of any first hand info, Medellin Living has a page for Comuna Buenos Aires. Doesn't look so bad. Might be worth a visit.

http://medellinliving.com/buenos-aires/

Cm6363
10-22-16, 19:08
Personally, I enjoy spending a few hours or overnight with the ladies. A couple or few turns in the hay is great, but not just a mechanical pop or two. I also like working on my primitive Spanish, which some girls appreciate and some get frustrated with having to speak slow or repeat themselves.

So the question I have has to do with pricing. I can't remember who wrote a good report on Colombia Cupid and Facebook girls, but he made a good point that unless their Mansion regulars, it is better to not get right down to business and pricing. That works for me except I would appreciate some thoughts on what is the right amount without being cheap (which spoils the very important atmosphere) or lavish (for the long term cost factor).

How much would you consider is fair for 3 hours, 2 pops?

How much for overnight, 2 3 pops?

In the past, I have also had one disappointing experience where the chica agreed to 2 to 3 hours, but we only got it on once. Back then I spoke almost no Spanish, so I'm sure for her it was just a mechanical process, but a quite good one! Anyway, how would you address that issue without being too forward with a non-Mansion girl?

Thanks for sharing your ideas.

Java Man
10-22-16, 23:37
Day 1 of 11.

Put on my best Rodeo Clown outfit and met an expat friend at Cento Club Maracaibo at 10p last night. Had a couple of 7k Pilsner beers and moved down the street to Ejecutiva club. For those not in the know these are 2 Centro strip clubs popular with the locals. According to my expat friend, things start hopping here after 10p, and by 12a most of the girls have been taken several times. Of the 2 clubs, Ejecutiva had more chicas. The Ejecutiva dancers went full nude whereas in Maracaibo only some did. Expat found a chica he knew and pulled her. During his absence, 2 dancers hit the stage, stripped and began playing with whip cream. Members of the audience were invited to put whip cream first on the dancers tits, then ass crack and groin area, one guy at a time. At this point the dancers were covered in whip cream. Then whoever wanted too, was invited to put his face between: tits, ass crack and finally pussgy. For the last body part, the dancers were on their back, legs in the air.

A volunteer from the audience was called for, One brave guy stood up: I don't think he was prepared for what was in store for him. Both dancers ganged up on him and stripped him naked. They had him lay down on the stage. One dancer covered her Pussgy with whipped cream, while the other cover his groin with a mountain of whip cream. First dancer sat on his face, the DJ started a count down and at the end the second dancer, slapped the mountain of whip cream. OUCH!! He curled up. LOL.

Expat left after 12a, I moved between Maricaibo and Ejecutiva, and was undecided on who to pull. Settled on Andrea at Maracaibo, 80k for 30min, 150K for 60min. I took the 60min option. I had never been in the Ejecutiva back rooms. Curiously, they're accessed thru a secret door in the men's room. (So this is how it was during the days of Prohibition in the US! Too Cool!) Plus: Ejecutiva rooms are bigger and better than Maracaibo's rooms. Con: Both clubs only have Cold showers. There was a short wait for a room. Ejecutiva's back rooms were busy and only had one guy doing cleanup between sessions. Mission accomplished with Andrea but nuthin spectacular and CBJ too. Don't think I'll repeat.

When I returned back to Ejecutiva's main area is where it got interesting. There was Live Sex being performed on stage. This was around 2:20a. Two naked dancers. Two naked guy sitting on stage, getting BJ's from the dancers. Then Sex: One dancer was riding her guy cowgirl. Other dancer was getting it doggy, then they went at it missionary. Cowgirl made her guy tap out early. After the show ended, noticed that one of the dancers was attractive, the other dancer was a little thick, with an average face. I left after the show ended.

This was my first time at Ejecutiva, so I'm not sure how often they have these audience participation shows. I suspect Friday, maybe Sat too.

I may return to these clubs tonight, there were a few chicas I want to check out. On a side note, prior to leaving for the Centro area, I got a Uber rate range of 5K to 9k from the Poblado area. The metered taxi I took was 9k each way.

Gagoo
10-23-16, 07:07
There is generic tadalafil now everywhere- the patent has expired.They started selling the generic Cialis in Colombia for at least 5 - 6 months now. I'm happy with the box of 28 5 MG tablets. They are good stuff. It's been several months since I bought them. So I can remember the price. It was a very good price though. I think they now sell some sort of Viagra spray or inhaler. They have many kinds of new types lately. The pharmacy in the Santafe shopping mall has a very big selection. Most people don't mention it, but you can buy testosterone also. Most places are injections only and many of them will give you the injection if you want them to. This can help your libido. But if you never took a testosterone shot before, observe yourself, you might get pissed of more easy for dumb reasons. I've seen a pharmacy that also sold 30 packs of testosterone cream. And they have a very long acting testosterone shot, it is 4 ML and is a full 1,000 MG of testosterone. It requires 2 injections of 2 ML each, but that was about $55 USD each unit. Look up Testosterone, Nebido. The regular testosterone shots are about 18 K pesos each. If you want a nice sleeping pill, all pharmacies in Colombia will sell you Zoplicona. It takes awhile to work, but puts be to sleep a solid 8-9 hours. Other countries are picky about selling Zoplicona. I found just one pharmacy in Bogota that will make phone calls and sell you something if he can get it. I buy Ambien from him. Other pharmacies in Colombia won't sell it to you without a prescription. And only a few of the pharmacies are allowed to stock some of the highly controlled meds.

Hexzor
10-23-16, 07:28
Information on this topic has been pretty tough to come by even on poker-related forums (most poker expats are in Asia) so I'm trying this just in case. Has anyone played live poker in Medellin? What were the stakes and rake? I'm a pro poker player that is thinking about taking a long-term trip to Colombia to learn Spanish and play poker. Contacting the casinos isn't really helpful, as they will usually misrepresent the size of the games, and how often they run.

Mr Enternational
10-23-16, 10:30
During his absence, 2 dancers hit the stage, stripped and began playing with whip cream. Members of the audience were invited to put whip cream first on the dancers tits, then ass crack and groin area, one guy at a time. At this point the dancers were covered in whip cream. Then whoever wanted too, was invited to put his face between: tits, ass crack and finally pussgy. For the last body part, the dancers were on their back, legs in the air.It is shaving cream that they always use, not whipped cream. Also 60K for 30 minutes should be no problem to pay in either club.

Rio Rio
10-23-16, 17:39
First I have to say the girls are a lot prettier IMHO than in Tijuana. Flew in and no problems with taxis from the airport to the Poblado area. All the facebook contacts are getting old and I see one. She was so nice. Stayed way past the time and hanged out with me. In park Lleras there are two streets perpendicular to each other where the prepagos stand. They all know each other and there is one liquor store in the park area with the trees where they all hang out.

2nd girl I got was supposedly new in my apartment complex. More on the white side and she was great too. Ill post pics but I don't want my junk showing. We actually hung out at Santa Fe mall, when to Santo Domingo for the metro.

Now people are suggesting I go Fase 2.

I am looking for the really high end ones. Someone please PM me where to find the high end ones. I like they ones that look very European.Hey,

I'm very interested in visiting Medellin, looking for some help on, where to stay, transportation, how the scene works, overall my buddies and I need a step by step lesson. We have been to Rio quite a few times as well as the Dominican, so were seasoned vets when it comes to mongering, just don't know anything about Medellin or Colombia, any info would be great thanks.

Java Man
10-24-16, 03:11
I went late to Maracaibo and Ejecutiva last night, got there around 12:20 a. Surprisingly, Ejecutiva was not crowded, also less lchicas working. They did announce they were having a Live Sex show at 2 a. I thought maybe some of the chicas were Busy, but I stayed long enough to determine that was not the case.

Maracaibo had the better line up, with a few chicas I had not seen Friday night. They also announced they were going to have a Live Sex show, but that never happened.

Shortly after I sat down, guys at a nearby table got into an argument, followed by a brief scuffle. They were separated but no kicked out.

I stuck around til the 4 a closing. As I was leaving, Daniela, suggested we go to a motel. She reminded me of the Chica I met in May, so I was good to go.

She took me to a Motel Lafayette, not to far from Maracaibo. It's a Love motel, 21 k for a 2 HR room. Big complex, with many floors. Per the website, they have theme rooms and sex chairs. http://sexosentido.co/motel-lafayette/.

The room was slightly bigger than the back rooms in Ejecutiva, PLUS: better bed, hot shower, Towels, Music, TV, Mini bar. CON: only a fan in this room.

Daniela, though tipsy, gave a near GFE performance, (if your GF gives you a CBJ.) 150 K for Daniela. 21 k for the room, 17 K for mini bar. 5 k for taxi to the Love motel from the club.

Day 3 may be a wash. Not sure yet.

Paulie97
10-24-16, 03:15
Hey,

I'm very interested in visiting Medellin, looking for some help on, where to stay, transportation, how the scene works, overall my buddies and I need a step by step lesson. We have been to Rio quite a few times as well as the Dominican, so were seasoned vets when it comes to mongering, just don't know anything about Medellin or Colombia, any info would be great thanks.This "step by step lesson" is best pursued by reading the forum, or as the acronym goes, "RTFF. " And it's not just here on the Medellin thread where such research is suggested. It's so widespread in forum culture as to be part of the lingo by way of this RTFF acronym. It's found all over and the advice is priceless. Once you've invested some time and if anything is still unclear I'm sure many will be eager to help.

Black Page
10-24-16, 11:25
She took me to a Motel Lafayette, not to far from Maracaibo. It's a Love motel, 21 k for a 2 HR room. Big complex, with many floors. Per the website, they have theme rooms and sex chairs. http://sexosentido.co/motel-lafayette/.
The room was slightly bigger than the back rooms in Ejecutiva, PLUS: better bed, hot shower, Towels, Music, TV, Mini bar. CON: only a fan in this room.
Oh yes. Very good place. Pronounce "Lafajette" if you want to ask a taxi driver to take you there.

I cannot argue "RTFF!" for posts that are older then few months, as in this thread reports are quickly submerged by chit-chat, but I will link my old posts about love motels in MDE.

Super Chimba de Hotel.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1547921&viewfull=1#post1547921.
(I prevent comments: my post right below is SARCASTIC ok?

Super Chimba de Hotel (2).
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1548014&viewfull=1#post1548014.
(Also here: my post right below is SARCASTIC ok? It was a time when people was lamenting about dangers).

Different ways of spending a night in MDE (5).
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1548326&viewfull=1#post1548326.

Super Chimba de Hotel.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1775320&viewfull=1#post1775320.
This is the best of the best.

If ID doubt, ask the taxi driver. There TONS of good love motels not far from the centro. I remember Punto Cero in this moment, but there are really many. The List lists some too.

MedellinGringo
10-24-16, 16:42
Hey,

I'm very interested in visiting Medellin, looking for some help on, where to stay, transportation, how the scene works, overall my buddies and I need a step by step lesson. We have been to Rio quite a few times as well as the Dominican, so were seasoned vets when it comes to mongering, just don't know anything about Medellin or Colombia, any info would be great thanks.There is only one place in Medellin where they put the training wheels on your bike for you.

http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/

Just book a room. Girls at the pool during the day. Different set at the bar at night. Guests will point you where to go outside of the Hotel or read this board.

Black Page
10-24-16, 18:12
Hey,
I'm very interested in visiting Medellin, looking for some help on, where to stay, transportation, how the scene works, overall my buddies and I need a step by step lesson. We have been to Rio quite a few times as well as the Dominican, so were seasoned vets when it comes to mongering, just don't know anything about Medellin or Colombia, any info would be great thanks.Despite what people may think by reading (but quickly) this board, Medellin is NOT a destination for sex tourism, as intended as most patrons of Rio, Rep. Dominicana, etc. Clubs do. There are pitfalls and traps, and best experiences come only after some experience (and mistakes) on site.

Sure, there are nanny services for newbies, but, without that, huge disappointments are behind the corner, whilst, with that, one can have only a very shielded experience. To each his own.

Java Man
10-25-16, 00:24
Despite what people may think by reading (but quickly) this board, Medellin is NOT a destination for sex tourism, as intended as most patrons of Rio, Rep. Dominicana, etc. Clubs do. There are pitfalls and traps, and best experiences come only after some experience (and mistakes) on site.I concur. It's much easier in Pattaya and Bangkok. More venues and GFE much easier to find despite the language barriers. (I have no language problems in Medellin.) Less venues in Angeles City, but the GFE is even more easier to find there. The only negative is the LONG flights to SE Asia from the US. I'm giving Medellin a second chance, but as it stands now, I'm probably not going to return anytime soon.

Combo
10-25-16, 00:40
I concur. It's much easier in Pattaya and Bangkok. More venues and GFE much easier to find despite the language barriers. (I have no language problems in Medellin.) Less venues in Angeles City, but the GFE is even more easier to find there. The only negative is the LONG flights to SE Asia from the US. I'm giving Medellin a second chance, but as it stands now, I'm probably not going to return anytime soon.No doubt Thailand is fantastic, but for me the long flight is a huge negative. I'm starting to doubt I'll ever return. If I do, I'll cough up the cash for business class.

From North America, Colombia is just such an easy trip.

YippieKayay
10-25-16, 03:12
I'm about three weeks away from spending a week in Medellin. I've already started an exercise regimen, low carb diet to shed a few pounds, and will get the obligatory haircut + some new clothes a week before the trip.

I decided to pay for tinder plus and set my location to Medellin for some pre-trip scoping out. Got to love the age of the super information highway!

Hilarity ensued. One girl was miming giving a blowjob in her profile photo and I immediately super liked. There's at least one girl I'm convinced is a tranny but can't be sure because I can't see an Adam's apple or big hands in the photos.

I also stumbled on what I think is a non-pro who liked me back and gave me her whatsapp number after we chatted for a bit. Strictly speaking, how easy are the non-pros in Medellin? In the sack the first night, or are they the type to keep you waiting to make sure you're serious. Curious to know if it is worth the effort.

Black Page
10-25-16, 11:19
I've already started an exercise regimen, low carb diet to shed a few pounds,
(.......)
Strictly speaking, how easy are the non-pros in Medellin?Just consider that the local guys are as handsome and in fit as the girls we look for, dress up smart and flashy to go out at night as the girls, etc.
Competition for local non-pro girls is VERY tough. Being foreigner is not (anymore) the decisive factor (as it can be in Philippines, Thailand, etc.)

The Tall Man
10-25-16, 14:40
I don't know why but every visit I have made to Energy (over by the stadium) over the past now 5 years has given me a lot of fun and this visit was no exception.

So Maffe, a 19 yo Paisa, no kids and all natural was my choice. What can you not say about a fun spirited 19 yo who loves to kiss and enjoys sex, always smiling and after the deed just lays next to you as she slithers her fingers on your chest.

Life is good.

TTM.