Medellin Reports

[Combo]

I'm about three weeks away from spending a week in Medellin. I've already started an exercise regimen, low carb diet to shed a few pounds, and will get the obligatory haircut + some new clothes a week before the trip.

I decided to pay for tinder plus and set my location to Medellin for some pre-trip scoping out. Got to love the age of the super information highway!

Hilarity ensued. One girl was miming giving a blowjob in her profile photo and I immediately super liked. There's at least one girl I'm convinced is a tranny but can't be sure because I can't see an Adam's apple or big hands in the photos.

I also stumbled on what I think is a non-pro who liked me back and gave me her whatsapp number after we chatted for a bit. Strictly speaking, how easy are the non-pros in Medellin? In the sack the first night, or are they the type to keep you waiting to make sure you're serious. Curious to know if it is worth the effort.Things that will help you with non-pros in MDE:

1. In town for a couple months. Pick up culture isn't as big in MDE as in the USA They like to know it's more than a fuck.

2. Not staying or hanging out in Poblado. Non-pros don't want to be confused for being a pro.

3. Speak Spanish (obvious).

4. Look like George Clooney (obvious).

For most guys in town for a week or so of fun, trying to bed non-pros isn't likely worth the time and effort.

FWIW, IMO Cali is a better place for pursing non-pros than MDE. Not saying it's as easy as in the USA, just easier than MDE.

[Kazeu]

I would say non-pros are easier than the US. But from personal anecdotal experience, non pros are probably the hardest in Medellin when compared to other cities in Colombia like Bogota and Cartagena. If you're only in Medellin for a week, I wouldn't put too much effort into non pros. There's plenty of affordable pro and semi-pro action to be had. And I agree with what black page said "Competition for local non-pro girls is VERY tough". You're competing against good looking young colombians who can dance, where dance is a big part of the culture.


I'm about three weeks away from spending a week in Medellin. I've already started an exercise regimen, low carb diet to shed a few pounds, and will get the obligatory haircut + some new clothes a week before the trip.

I decided to pay for tinder plus and set my location to Medellin for some pre-trip scoping out. Got to love the age of the super information highway!

Hilarity ensued. One girl was miming giving a blowjob in her profile photo and I immediately super liked. There's at least one girl I'm convinced is a tranny but can't be sure because I can't see an Adam's apple or big hands in the photos.

I also stumbled on what I think is a non-pro who liked me back and gave me her whatsapp number after we chatted for a bit. Strictly speaking, how easy are the non-pros in Medellin? In the sack the first night, or are they the type to keep you waiting to make sure you're serious. Curious to know if it is worth the effort.

[Eszpresszo]

Despite what people may think by reading (but quickly) this board, Medellin is NOT a destination for sex tourism, as intended as most patrons of Rio, Rep. Dominicana, etc. Clubs do. There are pitfalls and traps, and best experiences come only after some experience (and mistakes) on site.

Sure, there are nanny services for newbies, but, without that, huge disappointments are behind the corner, whilst, with that, one can have only a very shielded experience. To each his own.I don't know what you are talking about. I visited MDE last April. A non-Spanish speaker with no experience in SA. Though there was no obvious pandering to tourists where I visited (I never made it down to Poblado), I found it incredibly easy to get what I sought. Thanks to the basic info provided on this forum, it was no harder to find a brothel in Medellin than in Berlin (where I do speak the language on a basic level, and understand the culture and transport system). It was simple as fuck. The most surprising thing to me was the kindness and general civility of the Paisas, who seemed to be ready to please, even if they were just serving you a cup of coffee or a two-pack of Sildenafil over the pharmacy counter. The brothels I visited were clearly oriented to locals and had no English speaking staff that I could discern. But, when the lineup came in the Casas, nobody grimaced at the sight of the really tall, pale Yangqui who didn't share a common language with them. Rather, there were groans of disappointment when my choice was made. Sure, there wasn't "in your face" prostitution. The Paisas seem to have a sensible understanding of "keeping it private" and no surprise that many of the casas were in decent residential neighborhoods.

Make no mistake: I went to MDE to get laid and I popped as much as my body allowed. But, I also left with a newfound respect for the Paisas, who are a really nice bunch, and worth learning Spanish for.

Sure, I realize that some people are the most helpless of individuals and need somebody to drive them to an FKK where they will be presented a buffet of women to choose from with little thought, effort or risk on their part. I am not one of those people. I am sure many people interested in mongering in Colombia are similarly capable of doing something easy as getting laid.

[PickCherry12]

Buenos Aires area en Medellin area. That's where you go to find the really young pretty girls but I heard they rob you here and its dangerous. Any Pros want to chime in?Nomarriage,

What's the name of the apartments did you stay in? I want to avoid staying at hotels.

[Socker]

I don't know what you are talking about. I visited MDE last April. A non-Spanish speaker with no experience in SA. Though there was no obvious pandering to tourists where I visited (I never made it down to Poblado), I found it incredibly easy to get what I sought. Thanks to the basic info provided on this forum, it was no harder to find a brothel in Medellin than in Berlin (where I do speak the language on a basic level, and understand the culture and transport system). It was simple as fuck. The most surprising thing to me was the kindness and general civility of the Paisas, who seemed to be ready to please, even if they were just serving you a cup of coffee or a two-pack of Sildenafil over the pharmacy counter. The brothels I visited were clearly oriented to locals and had no English speaking staff that I could discern. But, when the lineup came in the Casas, nobody grimaced at the sight of the really tall, pale Yangqui who didn't share a common language with them. Rather, there were groans of disappointment when my choice was made. Sure, there wasn't "in your face" prostitution. The Paisas seem to have a sensible understanding of "keeping it private" and no surprise that many of the casas were in decent residential neighborhoods..To go there w / no Spanish and succeed it's quite the accomplishment and you stayed in El Centro? Kudos to you. I was recently in El Salvador and the Latin people there, like Colombia couldn't be more friendly and helpful. I head to Colombia in early December when the have the festival of lights but I stay at the mansion where it's more to my liking. But I also enjoy the raunchy strip clubs on Calle 53 and especially La Mayorista on the weekends where the salsa is blasting from the bars and the street is brimming w / pussy for rent. For me that's the edge of the world and I like it there. Thanks for your post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfwEjjDkOvI

[YippieKayay]

For most guys in town for a week or so of fun, trying to bed non-pros isn't likely worth the time and effort.

I figured as much after tindering the last couple of days. Thanks for the advice. 95% of the responses have been from pros in Medellin or Cartagena (depending on where I set my location in Tinder plus). Only two normal women in Medellin liked me back, and only one has taken the time to properly talk to me. She's a 5 at best and I suspect only interested in practicing her English. I shared with her that just about every other response on Tinder has been from "dama de campania" and this woman feigned complete surprise.

Now attitude on Tinder in general seems to be much better from the Medellin pros / semi-pros than from the ones in Cartagena. I suspect this is a portent of things to come. I've been chatting up one girl who I'm almost 100% sure is a provider at one of the casas because she keeps talking about her job as a masseuse, then when I asked for a photo she sent over a series of sexy photos. My dick almost exploded. She's thick in just the right places.

If I ever win the lottery I'm going to build a harem.

[Black Page]

I don't know what you are talking about. I visited MDE last April. .............I don't this we disagree.

My point was that 95% of those who go to Tijuana, Rep. Dominicana, Thailand, etc with the precise intent to be a so-called "sex tourist" would be invariably lost or simply disappointed by the "lack of opportunities" (for them) in Medellin, unless they have a guide service. The environment is NOT the environment of a "sex-tourism destination".

I don't think you belong to this 95%, and I am sure you are well aware of that.

Needless to say, Medellin is a great place. An excellent place to relocate for work there.

[Viajando Musico]

I don't this we disagree.

My point was that 95% of those who go to Tijuana, Rep. Dominicana, Thailand, etc with the precise intent to be a so-called "sex tourist" would be invariably lost or simply disappointed by the "lack of opportunities" (for them) in Medellin, unless they have a guide service. The environment is NOT the environment of a "sex-tourism destination".

I don't think you belong to this 95%, and I am sure you are well aware of that.

Needless to say, Medellin is a great place. An excellent place to relocate for work there.I totally agree with Black Page. A solo traveler with no Spanish skill would most likely find himself disappointed in Medellin. But I also agree with Eszpresszo's assessment that Paisas "keeping it private" attitude. And for that exact reason, Medellin is not as good for Newbies or solo traveller with no Spanish skill and only limited time than some other Latin American Cities frequently discussed here. Finding the locations of casas or clubs is one thing, being able to communicate with the chicas and open her up to enjoy her time with you is quite another.

[Hasideas Tao]

I figured as much after tindering the last couple of days. Thanks for the advice. 95% of the responses have been from pros in Medellin or Cartagena (depending on where I set my location in Tinder plus). Only two normal women in Medellin liked me back, and only one has taken the time to properly talk to me. She's a 5 at best and I suspect only interested in practicing her English. I shared with her that just about every other response on Tinder has been from "dama de campania" and this woman feigned complete surprise.I did not come across too many pros. I did notice a lot of familiar facebook fotos tho. When I noticed a pic with a phone number, I just swipe left. In any case, the lag time between responses kinda kills it for me. What do the "Tinder" pros propose as far as terms of service. Time / cost?

[YippieKayay]

I did not come across too many pros. I did notice a lot of familiar facebook fotos tho. When I noticed a pic with a phone number, I just swipe left. In any case, the lag time between responses kinda kills it for me. What do the "Tinder" pros propose as far as terms of service. Time / cost?I only got three pros off Medellin tinder, as opposed to 6 from the Cartagena tinder. This is only swiping -- no super likes. I haven't discussed prices much. Typically after a few lines back and forth, either they offer their number for Whatsapp, or I ask for it. Only one chica in Medellin discussed pricing through tinder and she was super brief and business like. In fact her only message was pricing: 60 k for a half hour, 120 k for an hour, out-call. I'm not up for it. The Cartagena chicas were all business and wanted to get right to pricing.

I'm still chatting regularly with the masseuse chica. I'm almost certain she drops off her kid to school in the morning then goes to work in one of the massage parlors. She's always in bed by 10 pm since her whatsapp activity dies off then. This is a big difference to the other two pros from Medellin that seem to clock out at 3 am according to Whatsapp activity.

So here's where I can use some help. I'm 99% certain she's a pro given the photo she sent me, but she's playing it cool and hasn't mentioned pricing or anything other than idle chit chat. I asked her out of the blue what "dama de campania" is, pretending I was confused that I had received messages from women saying that. She explained it means "escort" in English then said this. I'm assuming this means she uses tinder for it as well, but I can't place the way the verb is being used.

"La verdad para eso utiliza tinder".

Does that mean: "Truthfully, I use tinder for that. " ?

She's really hot so I'm going to see if I can wife up. The fact that she has a kid may limit my ability to do so since she may need to be in her home every night. I'll know in a couple of weeks when I head over. I already told her I'm going to be her "principe azul" haha.

[Mr Enternational]

I only got three pros off Medellin tinder, as opposed to 6 from the Cartagena tinder. Why go through all this trouble to get prostitutes when you can just go to a casa or whatever and pick one on the spot? I thought hookers were supposed to be no muss no fuss; not stressing over who is one and how much they are charging and what time they are going to sleep.

[YippieKayay]

Why go through all this trouble to get prostitutes when you can just go to a casa or whatever and pick one on the spot? I thought hookers were supposed to be no muss no fuss; not stressing over who is one and how much they are charging and what time they are going to sleep.I'm not in Medellin yet. This is reconnaissance. Also would prefer semi-pro if I can find it, so I'm scoping this chica out. The photo she sent me was pretty skimpy and she claims to be a massage therapist so. I figure she may already be working at one of the parlors.

But yeah. Once I'm in Medellin I won't be using tinder. I'll check out this chica, and possibly do a casa run, along with parque lleras at night.

[Jason M]

Four days in Medellin at GHL Comfort in San Diego. I walked 2 blocks to Fase Dos after 7 pm and found it large and modern (and not yet hopping that early). I was told that I couldn't sit next to the stage unless I ordered a bottle of something or a mixed drink, which I didn't care for. I drank my beer at the bar and was quoted 500 mil for a woman with an additional 150 mil bar fine for the takeout. I had a wicked hangover and didn't partake. Spent a couple of nights downtown near Plaza Botero. There are five clubs within 3-4 blocks that are not hard to find. Grill Nueva Avenida (Calle 51 #51-18) was honest but the women will charge you what they can. I was told they open in the afternoon but never arrived before 6 pm. Taberna Victoria (Calle 53 #52 a-26) is smaller and "mas pueblo" (less fancy), which I like. Conejitos (off plaza Botero) and Ejectutiva Strip club and Club Maracaibo (on Maracaibo) within 2 blocks of hotel Nutibara are all still there and going. Don't remember prices / names, but it's cheap. Taxis wait in front of Conejitos so you're good getting home. Also, I saw a lot of street walkers on the street on the south side of Museo Antioquia and the few blocks around there. You can find party favors in these streets (and from many entertainers) easily.

[Java Man]

A solo traveler with no Spanish skill would most likely find himself disappointed in Medellin.


...simply disappointed by the "lack of opportunities" (for them) in Medellin, The environment is NOT the environment of a "sex-tourism destination".I'm a solo traveler AND speak Spanish. And I'm disappointed here. (I know the location of all the casititas and bars and some local only places.) There are more venues and more non monger things to do in other places. The GFE is easier to find in Rio, Thailand and especially in the Phillipines. And The chicas here are indoctrinated on the CBJ.

My Gringo friend who showed me around the Medellin back in May, loves it here. But he spends time, (lots I'm assuming,) on Tinder and other social sites looking for chicas prior to his arrival. That to me is too much work, and I'm not into misleading these ladies. They're looking for a BF, I'm not looking for a GF.


La verdad para eso utiliza tinder" Does that mean: "Truthfully, I use tinder for that. " ?No. Had she been referring to her self, she would have written UTILIZO, Implying YO = me: La verdad para eso utilizo tinder" By using UTILIZA, she means they, them or her. Roughly translated, she wrote, Truthfully, that's what tinder's used for.

[Eszpresszo]

I totally agree with Black Page. A solo traveler with no Spanish skill would most likely find himself disappointed in Medellin. But I also agree with Eszpresszo's assessment that Paisas "keeping it private" attitude. And for that exact reason, Medellin is not as good for Newbies or solo traveller with no Spanish skill and only limited time than some other Latin American Cities frequently discussed here. Finding the locations of casas or clubs is one thing, being able to communicate with the chicas and open her up to enjoy her time with you is quite another.But, I have no Spanish skills and I thought I had a great time. So what was supposed to be so disappointing? Or am I just a fool who imagined I was enjoying myself when in fact, I wasn't supposed to? Did I need to go to some seaside town where I need to beat the women off of me and they all speak fluent English, so they can talk me into giving them more money with their sob story?

Hell, I really wanted to visit Medellin again. I guess I need to learn fluent Spanish or otherwise I won't truly be able to enjoy the girls' pathetic bleating about "Please Senor, you need to give me more money to buy "pam-pers" for my baby!" in their native tongue.

And why is a popular brand of infant paper hygiene product a prohibited word here? Heck, why is the word "DIA-per" a prohibited word?

[YippieKayay]

My Gringo friend who showed me around the Medellin back in May, loves it here. But he spends time, (lots I'm assuming,) on Tinder and other social sites looking for chicas prior to his arrival. That to me is too much work, and I'm not into misleading these ladies. They're looking for a BF, I'm not looking for a GF.
This interesting. Do you mean sites like colombian cupid and so on? I may try it. I'm not against casas, but I'd rather get GFE out in the field. What I'm finding interesting is how I bet a lot of these girls on tinder and other websites looking for foreigners are probably hustling a bunch at once. They get all kinds, and are also looking for a diamond in the rough.

I don't think money is the only factor. I think it's a huge one and a requirement but more bucks does not necessarily tip the scales in your favor. These chicas are not about to pay our rent, but I suspect they also prefer a foreign boyfriend that's more agreeable to them.

Anyway, I'm navigating the webs the same as your buddy and I will report back on my experience when I'm done with my visit.

[LifeIsABeach]

A solo traveler with no Spanish skill would most likely find himself disappointed in Medellin. Medellin is not as good for Newbies or solo traveller with no Spanish skill and only limited time than some other Latin American Cities frequently discussed here. Finding the locations of casas or clubs is one thing, being able to communicate with the chicas and open her up to enjoy her time with you is quite another.Strange. I have traveled the world as a solo traveler for 3 decades and never had any issues in any countries. I speak English and knew some German. I studied Spanish but rarely got to use it in Mexico as most speak English there. My Spanish is not fluent but better than broken broken. I had no issues visiting Spain, Argentina, Paraguay and Peru. Only problem was finding the local beer in a grocery store! Majority of countries I have visited, many do not speak English and I have communicated with them. I learnt some French before going to Morocco and my really bad pronunciation of French was a big breaking the ice as the girls just laughed. I also found that using a tablet and communicate using the translater at the apartment can be fun too. Of course it is better if you know the language but I love to travel solo. Better than being in a group. I can do what I want when I want.

[RacShack]

Strange. I have traveled the world as a solo traveler for 3 decades and never had any issues in any countries. I speak English and knew some German. I studied Spanish but rarely got to use it in Mexico as most speak English there. My Spanish is not fluent but better than broken broken. I had no issues visiting Spain, Argentina, Paraguay and Peru. Only problem was finding the local beer in a grocery store! Majority of countries I have visited, many do not speak English and I have communicated with them. I learnt some French before going to Morocco and my really bad pronunciation of French was a big breaking the ice as the girls just laughed. I also found that using a tablet and communicate using the translater at the apartment can be fun too. Of course it is better if you know the language but I love to travel solo. Better than being in a group. I can do what I want when I want.Well said!

[Cm6363]

I would say non-pros are easier than the US. But from personal anecdotal experience, non pros are probably the hardest in Medellin when compared to other cities in Colombia like Bogota and Cartagena. If you're only in Medellin for a week, I wouldn't put too much effort into non pros. There's plenty of affordable pro and semi-pro action to be had. And I agree with what black page said "Competition for local non-pro girls is VERY tough". You're competing against good looking young colombians who can dance, where dance is a big part of the culture.Pricing question.

Personally, I enjoy spending a few hours or overnight with the non-pros or the semi-pros. A couple or few turns in the hay is great, but not just a mechanical pop or two. I also like working on my primitive Spanish, which some girls appreciate and some get frustrated with having to speak slow or repeat themselves.

So the question I have has to do with pricing. I can't remember who wrote a good report on Colombia Cupid and Facebook girls, but he made a good point that unless their Mansion regulars, it is better to not get right down to business and pricing. That works for me except I would appreciate some thoughts on what is the right amount without being cheap (which spoils the very important atmosphere) or lavish (for the long term cost factor).

How much would you consider is fair for 3 hours, 2 pops?

How much for overnight, 2 3 pops?

In the past, I have also had one disappointing experience where the chica agreed to 2 to 3 hours, but we only got it on once. Back then I spoke almost no Spanish, so I'm sure for her it was just a mechanical process, but a quite good one! Anyway, how would you address that issue without being too forward with a non-Mansion girl?

Thanks for sharing your ideas.

[Kazeu]

I don't really worry about being seeming cheap. I do try to make sure that the terms are clear and there are no misunderstandings. That way she gets what she wants and I get what I want and expectations are met. Thats the important thing.

That said, I've never paid anyone less than 140 k nor more than 200 k for 1 hour service in my apartment. That includes any sort of taxi fare. I'm pretty picky about who I invite to my apartment. I've used agencies as well as Mileroticos.

As for service for multiple hours, I'm pretty sure girls will give you a discount for additional hours, but its pretty rare that I will want a girl for more than 1 pop or more than 1 hour, but in the rare instance that it should happen, its a much safer bet to just negotiate for additional time once she's at your place. Who knows if you're even going to get along? Why commit yourself to being on the hook for paying for 2 or 3 hours?

As for overnight, I've never paid anyone for overnight in Colombia, I haven't found anyone worth paying for. My strategy here, is if I meet some normal girl whos great to hang out with and wants to stay overnight. Sure! But paying someone for sleeping isn't really on my agenda. I don't sleep well with strange people in my bed anyways, even if they are really hot. Maybe its because I'm getting too old and can't really pull a 3 pop night.

For non pros, semi pros, its true, I usually don't mention pricing first. I need some sort of indication that she's on the market. Like if tell her she should come over to my place and have a drink, often times girls will ask what's in it for me? Or what will you give me? Or directly, how much will you pay me? At that point I don't think its too forward to outline in detail what you expect of the situation. The more clear you are, the less likely someone is going to walk away dissapointed or worse, angry. So just tell her you expect 2 pops, uncovered BJ, anal. If I don't ask for it before hand, I've learned not to be dissapointed if I don't get it when the time comes.

Now, if she hasn't made any mention of money, that's a different story. I just go into the situation like its a date, movie, coffee, or dinner, conversation. You're feeling each other out. I don't expect sex, I just try to enjoy her company. And of course I pay for everything and make sure she gets home okay.

Hope this helps.


Pricing question.

Personally, I enjoy spending a few hours or overnight with the non-pros or the semi-pros. A couple or few turns in the hay is great, but not just a mechanical pop or two. I also like working on my primitive Spanish, which some girls appreciate and some get frustrated with having to speak slow or repeat themselves.

So the question I have has to do with pricing. I can't remember who wrote a good report on Colombia Cupid and Facebook girls, but he made a good point that unless their Mansion regulars, it is better to not get right down to business and pricing. That works for me except I would appreciate some thoughts on what is the right amount without being cheap (which spoils the very important atmosphere) or lavish (for the long term cost factor).

How much would you consider is fair for 3 hours, 2 pops?

How much for overnight, 2 3 pops?

In the past, I have also had one disappointing experience where the chica agreed to 2 to 3 hours, but we only got it on once. Back then I spoke almost no Spanish, so I'm sure for her it was just a mechanical process, but a quite good one! Anyway, how would you address that issue without being too forward with a non-Mansion girl?

Thanks for sharing your ideas.

[You Can]

I agree I have no idea what that guy was talking about? Not a sex destination? It's all over the whole country. As far as Spanish my Spanish sucks and I never had a problem finding what I wanted and communicated it through my fucked up Spanish and hand gestures.

I didn't go there to have a long in depth conversation and once back at the pad, I have my iPad for translation but rarely needed it. Let's drink, party and suck and fuck. It's not real difficult.

Also I never met a non pro and don't fucking want one.


I don't know what you are talking about. I visited MDE last April. A non-Spanish speaker with no experience in SA. Though there was no obvious pandering to tourists where I visited (I never made it down to Poblado), I found it incredibly easy to get what I sought. Thanks to the basic info provided on this forum, it was no harder to find a brothel in Medellin than in Berlin (where I do speak the language on a basic level, and understand the culture and transport system). It was simple as fuck. The most surprising thing to me was the kindness and general civility of the Paisas, who seemed to be ready to please, even if they were just serving you a cup of coffee or a two-pack of Sildenafil over the pharmacy counter. The brothels I visited were clearly oriented to locals and had no English speaking staff that I could discern. But, when the lineup came in the Casas, nobody grimaced at the sight of the really tall, pale Yangqui who didn't share a common language with them. Rather, there were groans of disappointment when my choice was made. Sure, there wasn't "in your face" prostitution. The Paisas seem to have a sensible understanding of "keeping it private" and no surprise that many of the casas were in decent residential neighborhoods.

Make no mistake: I went to MDE to get laid and I popped as much as my body allowed. But, I also left with a newfound respect for the Paisas, who are a really nice bunch, and worth learning Spanish for.

Sure, I realize that some people are the most helpless of individuals and need somebody to drive them to an FKK where they will be presented a buffet of women to choose from with little thought, effort or risk on their part. I am not one of those people. I am sure many people interested in mongering in Colombia are similarly capable of doing something easy as getting laid.

[Eszpresszo]

I agree I have no idea what that guy was talking about? Not a sex destination? It's all over the whole country. As far as Spanish my Spanish sucks and I never had a problem finding what I wanted and communicated it through my fucked up Spanish and hand gestures.

I didn't go there to have a long in depth conversation and once back at the pad, I have my iPad for translation but rarely needed it. Let's drink, party and suck and fuck. It's not real difficult.

Also I never met a non pro and don't fucking want one.Well, I have to say you have the right screen name. You Can. That is a very positive message in your moniker. Yes, You Can go to Colombia and have a great time, even if you don't speak the language!

And no, I don't go to a brothel to have a profound conversation with a girl when she is supposed to be sucking my cock. Seriously, just how much conversation can you expect in 15 to 60 minutes? I sense that a lot of the conversation attempted by escorts is a way of burning up the limited time you have paid for, thus limiting the amount of actual physical contact. Since all but one of the girls I chose in MDE couldn't speak English, it left them little else to do but perform. The one girl who did know a bit of English, used it to aggressively plea for extra money so she could buy stuff for her baby (and boy, did she have a nasty see-section scar). A language barrier is really a good prophylactic against sob stories.

[Knowledge]

You nailed it. Some girls will chat you up to kill time. Your time. Another tactic you should prevent is the long leisurely shower. Girls will stretch it out to cut back on the time you get to pound them. If that doesn't work, some of them will invite you into the shower. I don't know about anybody else but I don't spend my money so I can sit around and watch girls shower or get into drawn out convos. I think it's important to get a connection going and be cordial but I make sure I don't let it get in the way of the "main event."


Well, I have to say you have the right screen name. You Can. That is a very positive message in your moniker. Yes, You Can go to Colombia and have a great time, even if you don't speak the language!

And no, I don't go to a brothel to have a profound conversation with a girl when she is supposed to be sucking my cock. Seriously, just how much conversation can you expect in 15 to 60 minutes? I sense that a lot of the conversation attempted by escorts is a way of burning up the limited time you have paid for, thus limiting the amount of actual physical contact. Since all but one of the girls I chose in MDE couldn't speak English, it left them little else to do but perform. The one girl who did know a bit of English, used it to aggressively plea for extra money so she could buy stuff for her baby (and boy, did she have a nasty see-section scar). A language barrier is really a good prophylactic against sob stories.

[LifeIsABeach]

Well said!I forgot to add, in Lima, Peru, a couple of times some fluent native Spanish speaking Southern American women stopped to ask me for directions as they were lost! I found out where they wanted to go and with some Spanish and sign 'language', I showed them the way. In Morocco, the girls could not understand a word of what I was saying because of my terrible pronunciations of French and they were cracking up laughing. Laughter is a good medicine and I would join in. I got to take the women back to the apartment. While in Spain, I traveled round the country by buses and was able to purchase tickets myself and get off at the right places and find places to stay. There are many ways to communicate. Just have fun.

[Cm6363]

That said, I've never paid anyone less than 140 k nor more than 200 k for 1 hour service in my apartment. That includes any sort of taxi fare. I'm pretty picky about who I invite to my apartment. I've used agencies as well as Mileroticos.

For non pros, semi pros, its true, I usually don't mention pricing first. I need some sort of indication that she's on the market. Like if tell her she should come over to my place and have a drink, often times girls will ask what's in it for me? Or what will you give me? Or directly, how much will you pay me? At that point I don't think its too forward to outline in detail what you expect of the situation. The more clear you are, the less likely someone is going to walk away dissapointed or worse, angry. So just tell her you expect 2 pops, uncovered BJ, anal. If I don't ask for it before hand, I've learned not to be dissapointed if I don't get it when the time comes.

Now, if she hasn't made any mention of money, that's a different story. I just go into the situation like its a date, movie, coffee, or dinner, conversation. You're feeling each other out. I don't expect sex, I just try to enjoy her company. And of course I pay for everything and make sure she gets home okay.

Hope this helps.Great color Kazeu. Thanks!

Do you gentleman find the semi-pros willing to spend more time. Like a 2 - 4 hour date, for something like COP 150 K. COP 200 K. In other words a date-like evening with a nice gift to go home with?

[Ee2002]

I agree I have no idea what that guy was talking about? Not a sex destination? It's all over the whole country. As far as Spanish my Spanish sucks and I never had a problem finding what I wanted and communicated it through my fucked up Spanish and hand gestures.

I didn't go there to have a long in depth conversation and once back at the pad, I have my iPad for translation but rarely needed it. Let's drink, party and suck and fuck. It's not real difficult.

Also I never met a non pro and don't fucking want one.LOL, right on sir. I was scratching my head over the OP's statement as well. I guess to each their own.

[Paulie97]

LOL, right on sir. I was scratching my head over the OP's statement as well. I guess to each their own.Seems to me that all that Black Page was saying it that it takes some Spanish to get around Medellin. You can't just parachute in with three or four words of the language and expect to avoid a lot of frustrations. There are destinations though that are set up for gringo tourism where one can literally show up with nothing but hola and adios in their pocket and do quite well if they confine themselves to certain areas. Medellin isn't one of them though. And if someone wants to claim that they can show up in Colombian knowing only a few words and get the rest done with hand signals I'm going to call them full of shit. Lying on the internet is easy and common enough. .

P.S. Not to mention that if you go around to the casas which are set up for the Colombians speaking English without even attempting to speak Spanish you're just going to look like a dick, but what is else is new.

[Black Page]

Seems to me that all that Black Page was saying it that it takes some Spanish to get around Medellin.Exactly, and more than that.

Additionally, I reiterate that Medellin is NOT a place like those which are commonly considered a destination for sex tourism. I don't wish to lecture those who know this beautiful city already, but to warn those who read something and then may decide to give it a try.

Take the average tourist who is satisfied with places like Sosua, Pattaya, Angeles City, Tijuana (should I list more? Fly him to Medellin, and even if he speaks Spanish he will be surely disappointed. Misplaced. Probably lost. Most likely bored. Even at danger if he thinks he can go around as in Pattaya and see girls falling in love because of his blue eyes.
And I am glad of that. The charme of Medellin is exactly that is not polluted by some type of tourism.

P.S.: Those who are familiar with Medellin and do not agree with me: ok everyone may have personal opinion. Those who don't know: keep your expectations low and be sure to have someone who takes you around.

[Paulie97]

I guess I need to learn fluent Spanish or otherwise I won't truly be able to enjoy the girls' pathetic bleating about "Please Senor, you need to give me more money to buy "pam-pers" for my baby!" in their native tongue.Truth is a lot of these girls have [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) to buy, and if using that line to ask for a nominal tip gets under your skin you'the probably best stay at home. That and ridiculing a chica by way of her native language ie. "please senor" is a good way to get taken aside by one of the locals for some attitude adjustment. .

[Hasideas Tao]

Pricing. What my eyes have seen.

A 20 something girl with no skills who does not want to be a prostitute, but is motivated to work a "regular job" to pay her bills, buy clothes, feed her baby or help her mom will take home about 35-40 mil pesos per day. And I am sure it could be argued that many will take home even less than that.

When a girl starts posting fotos of her attractive self and begins collecting friends from other parts of the world, for MANY of them, it is not a tough choice to go meet some of those foreign friends with dreams of 200-300 k for a short time. However, reality kicks in. Competition is stiff, maintaining banter with potential clients can be exhausting, there are tens of thousands of these girls being hit up by many of the same gentlemen and they hear all kinds of crazy stories (lies) from their friends.

So ultimately, you make the choice, what is it worth. They don't know about economics. They know what their friends say and what their own self esteem or vanity tells them.

My guesstimate is the going rate is 150 mil for an hour and a half for tourists. The high and low that create that average is pretty wide. Face to face initial contact, if you have the patience to negotiate, can get your rate down or lengthen your time a lot.

Go into the barrios, and the locals are paying 30-50 for a pop. As a tourist going into the barrios, double that.

If you need any more detailed info, PM me.


Pricing question.

Personally, I enjoy spending a few hours or overnight with the non-pros or the semi-pros. A couple or few turns in the hay is great, but not just a mechanical pop or two. I also like working on my primitive Spanish, which some girls appreciate and some get frustrated with having to speak slow or repeat themselves.

So the question I have has to do with pricing. I can't remember who wrote a good report on Colombia Cupid and Facebook girls, but he made a good point that unless their Mansion regulars, it is better to not get right down to business and pricing. That works for me except I would appreciate some thoughts on what is the right amount without being cheap (which spoils the very important atmosphere) or lavish (for the long term cost factor).

How much would you consider is fair for 3 hours, 2 pops?

How much for overnight, 2 3 pops?

In the past, I have also had one disappointing experience where the chica agreed to 2 to 3 hours, but we only got it on once. Back then I spoke almost no Spanish, so I'm sure for her it was just a mechanical process, but a quite good one! Anyway, how would you address that issue without being too forward with a non-Mansion girl?

Thanks for sharing your ideas.

[Kazeu]

This is a good approach to get rock bottom prices, but you got to value your time too. You got to actually go into these barrios, and put in the effort. For some people, that's what they enjoy. More power to them. In my case, I appreciate being able to just order stuff online and have it appear at my door. Like magic. I'll pay a bit extra for that.

Or you can also just go to a casa in el centro for prices very similar 30 to 50 a pop.


Pricing. What my eyes have seen.

A 20 something girl with no skills who does not want to be a prostitute, but is motivated to work a "regular job" to pay her bills, buy clothes, feed her baby or help her mom will take home about 35-40 mil pesos per day. And I am sure it could be argued that many will take home even less than that.

When a girl starts posting fotos of her attractive self and begins collecting friends from other parts of the world, for MANY of them, it is not a tough choice to go meet some of those foreign friends with dreams of 200-300 k for a short time. However, reality kicks in. Competition is stiff, maintaining banter with potential clients can be exhausting, there are tens of thousands of these girls being hit up by many of the same gentlemen and they hear all kinds of crazy stories (lies) from their friends.

So ultimately, you make the choice, what is it worth. They don't know about economics. They know what their friends say and what their own self esteem or vanity tells them.

My guesstimate is the going rate is 150 mil for an hour and a half for tourists. The high and low that create that average is pretty wide. Face to face initial contact, if you have the patience to negotiate, can get your rate down or lengthen your time a lot.

Go into the barrios, and the locals are paying 30-50 for a pop. As a tourist going into the barrios, double that.

If you need any more detailed info, PM me.

[Combo]

Exactly, and more than that.

Additionally, I reiterate that Medellin is NOT a place like those which are commonly considered a destination for sex tourism. I don't wish to lecture those who know this beautiful city already, but to warn those who read something and then may decide to give it a try.

Take the average tourist who is satisfied with places like Sosua, Pattaya, Angeles City, Tijuana (should I list more? Fly him to Medellin, and even if he speaks Spanish he will be surely disappointed. Misplaced. Probably lost. Most likely bored. Even at danger if he thinks he can go around as in Pattaya and see girls falling in love because of his blue eyes.
And I am glad of that. The charme of Medellin is exactly that is not polluted by some type of tourism.

P.S.: Those who are familiar with Medellin and do not agree with me: ok everyone may have personal opinion. Those who don't know: keep your expectations low and be sure to have someone who takes you around.No, it's certainly not like the places you mentioned where it's pretty much in your face. Almost impossible to go to Sosua, Pattaya, et al and not see the chicas looking for customers.

That said, any hobbyist who does his research and is reasonably determined can find pay-for-play in MDE. Even if he speaks no Spanish.

[Paulie97]

No, it's certainly not like the places you mentioned where it's pretty much in your face. Almost impossible to go to Sosua, Pattaya, et al and not see the chicas looking for customers.

That said, any hobbyist who does his research and is reasonably determined can find pay-for-play in MDE. Even if he speaks no Spanish.Rent a room at the Mansion, or hire or rely on someone to hold your hand. BP acknowledged those options. And there's also google translate and hand signals. LOL Yea they can get their dick wet, but none of that is how I want to do a vacation. Plus why not learn some basic Spanish to talk to the taxi driver, order some food, deal with the hotel and the maid, the bank, and to tell the chica what is wanted out of the session. Oh but I forgot as I allude to an earlier poster, it's best skip the language learning so one doesn't understand the girl when she asks for a tip LOL.

Yea the other venues mentioned, Costa Rica, the Philippines, etc. Are better suited to guys that know no Spanish. Medellin has a different layout.

[YippieKayay]

That said, any hobbyist who does his research and is reasonably determined can find pay-for-play in MDE. Even if he speaks no Spanish.I just used tinder and got a bunch of prepagos. One was subtle and started her sob story of needing food for her child and money for Christmas. It went like this:

* She started asking for the specific dates I'd be visiting.

* Then she started sending me ads for apartments -- probably that she was reselling through that latin app that has buy & sell classifieds. I forgot its name.

* I showed her the ad for the airbnb place I already got.

* Then she went in to close the deal. Essentially in order for her to provide me "company" for 11 days she would need money to cover what she made at her two jobs and money for Christmas.

* I quickly told her I could take care of her and it wasn't a problem. I then told her I had another novia last year who I did this for, travelled with, etc.

* That resulted in heart and lip messages in whatsapp -- so insincere.

Now I'm trying to get her to agree to bareback in the nicest way but she's resisting. I told her I'd think about things. Fuck that, 11 days with the same chica and wearing a condom? Not for me. I don't want to agree to anything without getting the last concession so I'll see about just hanging out for a night to see if she relents. Honestly, this one seems too eager to dig in with her claws without even meeting me which worries me. I'd rather have a chica go long term if she actually has some bit of chemistry.

This entire thing could be done with lots of swiping on Tinder Plus set to Medellin, Google Translate app, and playing it cool and trying to be subtle until she broke and started nipping at the heels. So yes, any monger with a little initiative can pre-order prepagos in Medellin haha. That's service with a smile to me!

[RedTibetan23]

I just used tinder and got a bunch of prepagos. One was subtle and started her sob story of needing food for her child and money for Christmas. It went like this:

* She started asking for the specific dates I'd be visiting.

* Then she started sending me ads for apartments -- probably that she was reselling through that latin app that has buy & sell classifieds. I forgot its name.

* I showed her the ad for the airbnb place I already got.

* Then she went in to close the deal. Essentially in order for her to provide me "company" for 11 days she would need money to cover what she made at her two jobs and money for Christmas.

* I quickly told her I could take care of her and it wasn't a problem. I then told her I had another novia last year who I did this for, travelled with, etc.

* That resulted in heart and lip messages in whatsapp -- so insincere.

Now I'm trying to get her to agree to bareback in the nicest way but she's resisting. I told her I'd think about things. Fuck that, 11 days with the same chica and wearing a condom? Not for me. I don't want to agree to anything without getting the last concession so I'll see about just hanging out for a night to see if she relents. Honestly, this one seems too eager to dig in with her claws without even meeting me which worries me. I'd rather have a chica go long term if she actually has some bit of chemistry.

This entire thing could be done with lots of swiping on Tinder Plus set to Medellin, Google Translate app, and playing it cool and trying to be subtle until she broke and started nipping at the heels. So yes, any monger with a little initiative can pre-order prepagos in Medellin haha. That's service with a smile to me!I'm back in the US. This post motivated me to download tinder. However, if I try to look in Medellin (or any city I'm not in), it's popping up a window for a monthly paid service. Am I jsimply doing something wrong, or is this s normal?

[YippieKayay]

I'm back in the US. This post motivated me to download tinder. However, if I try to look in Medellin (or any city I'm not in), it's popping up a window for a monthly paid service. Am I jsimply doing something wrong, or is this s normal?Here are some helpful hints for you:

* Buy one month of Tinder plus and you can set the GPS to anything. It even saves the location for you. I just bought one month which is more than enough. Remember to unsubscribe from it through the Google Play (store) app (or whatever the iPhone has).

* Now you get 5 super likes a day. In Medellin you should use those on girls with racy pictures. This one chica actually had no sexy photos at all which is a bit weird. You have to pay for more Super Likes if you want more than 5 a day. I find 5 is enough.

* You can use as many normal Likes as well but I found that doesn't work as well on all the chicas. Some of them aren't very active.

* Make sure you set the age preference to what you want. I set something like 25-35.

The girl will give you a whatsapp number or you can ask for it after chatting for a bit. It may take several days for her to fess up that she's willing to offer you companionship. I innocently asked what "dama de campania" means on the third day we were chatting, and that slowly got her to open up more. Initially she told me she works as a massage therapist (hahaha). Remember, be polite, subtle, and respectful. And do this a few weeks before your trip, not months or days before.

[Mr Enternational]

Additionally, I reiterate that Medellin is NOT a place like those which are commonly considered a destination for sex tourism. I don't wish to lecture those who know this beautiful city already, but to warn those who read something and then may decide to give it a try.

Take the average tourist who is satisfied with places like Sosua, Pattaya, Angeles City, Tijuana (should I list more? Fly him to Medellin, and even if he speaks Spanish he will be surely disappointed. Misplaced. Probably lost. Most likely bored.I know many do, but why would they even expect two places to be the same just because they are in the same category? The first thing people ask when going to a new place is "Do they have a club like Help?" (You should have added Rio.) You don't March into Taco Bell and ask about a Big Mac. Both are fast food restaurants but who would expect the menus to be the same?

It would be the fault of the monger for not doing his homework. Rio is known for sex tourism, but my first time there I was with my wife and could not have spotted a hooker within a three block radius had you paid me. I did not know the ropes and was not there for that. When I got divorced and returned with my friends for the purpose of sex tourism and they taught me the lay of the land it was like a different place to me.

The places that you have listed are exceptions to the rule. I live in Pattaya and Dcfan is here visiting for the first time. (Being a Medellin vet, I don't think he expected here to be like Medellin, so why would another monger expect Medellin to be like the next place on the list?) I have shown him that if you want some pussy here then all you have to do is walk outside and you can literally get pussy faster than you can get food. There are tons more sex touism places that are nothing like the 4 places you have listed. And although I am in the mood for Pattaya style sex tourism today, I may be in the mood for Medellin type sex tourism tomorrow.

I have never been disappointed in any sex tourism place. You know why? Because I keep an open mind and I know how to make my own fun. For the past 2 days Dcfan has been ranting about how today he has to get a chick that fits some type of description. But his mind has not been locked on that as other mongers get their minds locked, to be later disappointed when they do not find what they set out to and thereafter calling the destination garbage, boring, or whatever else. At the first hint that fun can be had, he goes with the flow and all that other shit falls out the window leaving him with the net balance of a good ass time. Point me to the spot where chicks are giving out pussy for money and I will show up to make my own good time. I am not waiting for someone to serve me up a good time on a silver platter.

Before I could speak Spanish I had no problem with jumping into a taxi and telling the driver one simple phrase: "Donde estan las mujeres?" In Lima the guy took me to Las Cucardas. In Bogota the guy took me to Santa Fe. I had a bang up time in both places. It did not matter how different they were from each other. I had money and they had women.

[Paulie97]

Before I could speak Spanish I had no problem with jumping into a taxi and telling the driver one simple phrase: "Donde estan las mujeres?" In Lima the guy took me to Las Cucardas. In Bogota the guy took me to Santa Fe. I had a bang up time in both places. It did not matter how different they were from each other. I had money and they had women.Now it's turned into a debate about how the phrase "sex tourism destination" is to be defined. Such is essentially a circle jerk / complete waste of time. If we follow Mr. E any city on the planet would qualify as such a destination except perhaps some in some hardcore Islamic states. Black Page unless you are talking about one of these, by all means don't be claiming any cities are not sex tourism destinations. Just find a cab driver or even random guy in a bar and ask him where the girls are, in the local tongue of course while more of the same will surely come in handy upon arrival at the destination. Let's not over estimate hand signals or even google translate. .

BTW, and for the record, Colombia very much does not want to be considered a sex tourism destination in the matter of North American visitors and the like. And before one protests too loudly keep in mind the authorities can be good at getting in the last word.

[You Can]

Well Put Mr. E,

That's why when I post on this board I try to give some insight into what's happening. I am not telling someone how to dress or where to eat but since I been traveling and listened to people on this board it's helped me on my original travels immensely.

There all different places. One example Sosua at night I see guys walking around in tank tops shorts or swim shorts and sandals.

Well that just doesn't cut it in tu candela in Cartagena. The person would not do well or fit in. But yet I get backlash for trying to help from some people.

But I trudge on. I give more PM advice then I do on the boards because usually the people are more serious about wanting help and less judge mental.


I know many do, but why would they even expect two places to be the same just because they are in the same category? The first thing people ask when going to a new place is "Do they have a club like Help?" (You should have added Rio.) You don't March into Taco Bell and ask about a Big Mac. Both are fast food restaurants but who would expect the menus to be the same?

It would be the fault of the monger for not doing his homework. Rio is known for sex tourism, but my first time there I was with my wife and could not have spotted a hooker within a three block radius had you paid me. I did not know the ropes and was not there for that. When I got divorced and returned with my friends for the purpose of sex tourism and they taught me the lay of the land it was like a different place to me.

The places that you have listed are exceptions to the rule. I live in Pattaya and Dcfan is here visiting for the first time. (Being a Medellin vet, I don't think he expected here to be like Medellin, so why would another monger expect Medellin to be like the next place on the list?) I have shown him that if you want some pussy here then all you have to do is walk outside and you can literally get pussy faster than you can get food. There are tons more sex touism places that are nothing like the 4 places you have listed. And although I am in the mood for Pattaya style sex tourism today, I may be in the mood for Medellin type sex tourism tomorrow.

I have never been disappointed in any sex tourism place. You know why? Because I keep an open mind and I know how to make my own fun. For the past 2 days Dcfan has been ranting about how today he has to get a chick that fits some type of description. But his mind has not been locked on that as other mongers get their minds locked, to be later disappointed when they do not find what they set out to and thereafter calling the destination garbage, boring, or whatever else. At the first hint that fun can be had, he goes with the flow and all that other shit falls out the window leaving him with the net balance of a good ass time. Point me to the spot where chicks are giving out pussy for money and I will show up to make my own good time. I am not waiting for someone to serve me up a good time on a silver platter.

Before I could speak Spanish I had no problem with jumping into a taxi and telling the driver one simple phrase: "Donde estan las mujeres?" In Lima the guy took me to Las Cucardas. In Bogota the guy took me to Santa Fe. I had a bang up time in both places. It did not matter how different they were from each other. I had money and they had women.

[YippieKayay]

So this morning I tried something completely different. I changed my location to Cartagena on Tinder. I found the Cartagena Tinder, as has been reported in the past, is flooded with working girls.

Instead of the usual mister naive nice guy I like to play, I decided to be a complete asshole and see how far I could get. I told her right of the bat to shut up (callate), she sent back a "jajaja soy dame de campania" to which I sarcastically told her I was surprised to hear. I proceeded to tell her I had a jacuzzi waiting in Medellin and wanted to fly her out. I told her all expenses will be paid and I would give her a good sum of money (did not mention how much). I didn't even wait for a response. I told her I would do her "sin condom" the entire two weeks she would be with and not to argue. I expected her to unmatch. Instead she sent me her whatsapp number and told me she's game.

In Whatsapp I asked her for a cedula number so I could book her on the Avianca flight. She sent me a photo of her ID which shocked me even more.

I unmatched her and blocked her on whatsapp. Honestly, I was surprised any of that worked but being hyper aggressive and just generally an asshole gets results?

[You Can]

Well you can do what you want obviously. But all that was pretty fucked up. Especially since that kind of stupid shit fucks it up for guys who really want to do just what you said (other then the sin condom thing although that's how I insist on my BJ, fucking is another story it's a must to use).

Then guys wander why girls act like assholes.

In short what a dick thing to do.

But hey that's up to you but it sure as hell isn't helping good people on this board.


So this morning I tried something completely different. I changed my location to Cartagena on Tinder. I found the Cartagena Tinder, as has been reported in the past, is flooded with working girls.

Instead of the usual mister naive nice guy I like to play, I decided to be a complete asshole and see how far I could get. I told her right of the bat to shut up (callate), she sent back a "jajaja soy dame de campania" to which I sarcastically told her I was surprised to hear. I proceeded to tell her I had a jacuzzi waiting in Medellin and wanted to fly her out. I told her all expenses will be paid and I would give her a good sum of money (did not mention how much). I didn't even wait for a response. I told her I would do her "sin condom" the entire two weeks she would be with and not to argue. I expected her to unmatch. Instead she sent me her whatsapp number and told me she's game.

In Whatsapp I asked her for a cedula number so I could book her on the Avianca flight. She sent me a photo of her ID which shocked me even more.

I unmatched her and blocked her on whatsapp. Honestly, I was surprised any of that worked but being hyper aggressive and just generally an asshole gets results?

[YippieKayay]

In short what a dick thing to do.
Yes I know. I shouldn't have done it. I was just curious to see how far you could get. To be honest I feel bad because this girl was probably desperate for work. I bet Cartagena is flooded now with Venezuelans and its hard for working girls to find clients regularly.

[Balboa]

So this morning I tried something completely different. I changed my location to Cartagena on Tinder. I found the Cartagena Tinder, as has been reported in the past, is flooded with working girls.

Instead of the usual mister naive nice guy I like to play, I decided to be a complete asshole and see how far I could get. I told her right of the bat to shut up (callate), she sent back a "jajaja soy dame de campania" to which I sarcastically told her I was surprised to hear. I proceeded to tell her I had a jacuzzi waiting in Medellin and wanted to fly her out. I told her all expenses will be paid and I would give her a good sum of money (did not mention how much). I didn't even wait for a response. I told her I would do her "sin condom" the entire two weeks she would be with and not to argue. I expected her to unmatch. Instead she sent me her whatsapp number and told me she's game.

In Whatsapp I asked her for a cedula number so I could book her on the Avianca flight. She sent me a photo of her ID which shocked me even more.

I unmatched her and blocked her on whatsapp. Honestly, I was surprised any of that worked but being hyper aggressive and just generally an asshole gets results?Karma is going to come back and bite you buddy.

Why mess with girls like that?

I can understand it with a girl that dissed you, but whatever, takes all kinds.

[Ee2002]

Seems to me that all that Black Page was saying it that it takes some Spanish to get around Medellin. You can't just parachute in with three or four words of the language and expect to avoid a lot of frustrations. There are destinations though that are set up for gringo tourism where one can literally show up with nothing but hola and adios in their pocket and do quite well if they confine themselves to certain areas. Medellin isn't one of them though. And if someone wants to claim that they can show up in Colombian knowing only a few words and get the rest done with hand signals I'm going to call them full of shit. Lying on the internet is easy and common enough. .

P.S. Not to mention that if you go around to the casas which are set up for the Colombians speaking English without even attempting to speak Spanish you're just going to look like a dick, but what is else is new.Fair enough, I agree with MDE not being as English friendly as the other places like Thailand and the scene wasn't designed with foreigners in mind. At the same time, if we are just talking about casas and places like San Diego and Face Dos, etc, how much really needs to be said? Agree to the pre set price package, pick a girl and go. If you are there to just screw, not much need to be said especially at the kinds of places I mentioned before. As far as taxis, have the address of the place you want to go handy and give it to the driver, if he doesn't know, move on to someone who does or he will ask another driver how to get there (that was my experience). The basic P4 P scheme is not that much different than the other destinations if you take away the Mabs, walking street, Classicos, and Del Rey type locations. If you do your research and prepare accordingly, you should be good in the P4 P game even without Spanish skills.

Now outside of P4 P, I agree 100% that it's very difficult without the language skill, but so can some of the other destinations. It can definitely get boring there outside of P4 P if you don't have anything else going.

[Paulie97]

FThe basic P4 P scheme is not that much different than the other destinations if you take away the Mabs, walking street, Classicos, and Del Rey type locations. If you do your research and prepare accordingly, you should be good in the P4 P game even without Spanish skills.The first one surrounds the phrase "sexual tourism destination" which is defined any way someone chooses. To BP certain parameters are involved while Mr E considers any place when you can ask a taxi driver "where are the girls?" qualifies.

Now we want to define "Spanish skills. " Well you aren't getting English in Medellin like in Gringo Gulch CR for example, so it would be a good idea to show up with some, to, and I reiterate, order some food, talk to the taxi driver, deal with the maid, the hotel, and the bank, and to even understand a bit of what is said to you at the casas and to make certain requests. It's also common courtesy to make an attempt at speaking the local language and abiding by local customs. So yep some Spanish skills (but by no means fluency) is called for in a way that it isn't in some other destinations.

I'll add this, any guy wanting to walk around El Centro in cargo shorts hitting the casas and with no interest in using the local language, I'm personally not going to do anything to help you. My choice.

[YippieKayay]

Karma is going to come back and bite you buddy.

Why mess with girls like that?

I can understand it with a girl that dissed you, but whatever, takes all kinds.In the interest of putting this to rest. I unblocked and messaged her a brief apology. A few hours later she responded: "jajaja, no problem. " I don't think she cared. She probably gets all kinds of weird messages and pranks.

[Java Man]

Recap of this week: Chilled Sunday. Hit Lili Swing club on Monday for Gang Bang night. It started to rain on my way there. Unfortunately It was over by the time I got to the club. Due to the down pour, Majorista was out of the question. My only option was the Centro Strip Clubs. Hit Maracaibo, it was almost dead, decided on having 1 beer to get out of the rain. Upon sitting down, 3 Venezolanas surrounded m: A young skinny one, an older skinny one with bolt-ONS and a MILF. It was the MILF's 4 day in Medellin and supposedly had not had sex in 2 months. The MILF won out. In the back room she acted like she hadn't had any in 2 months. Wild and Wanton she was, gave me a little BBBJ too. I had a great time with her. YMMV.

Tuesday, I was contacted by a semi pro I met last May. I had no plans for the night and she suggested Lili Swing club for Lesby night. I got there at the agreed upon time, but she didn't. For some reason, there wasn't much action at Lili this night. After it was over I went to Majorista.

Not that many chicas were present, and the pickings were slim. However, I did find one MILFy looking chica with a nice rack and pulled her for a round. She was OK, but she also looked better with her clothes on. Mission accomplished.

I was a Zero on Wednesday. Wasn't sure what to do on Thursday, when Ms Semi Pro hit me up again. She wanted to go to Lili again. This time, I had her come to my apartment, so we would go together. This worked out better and she arrived on time.

We were the first to arrive at the Club. Gradually other couples and groups of single women arrived. There were more women then men this night. Last to arrive were two Fase II babes, one was from Venezuela. My "date" is known at Lili and we got to mingle. This was a much better night at Lili. I played with my "date" a few times. Unfortunately, like my previous visits here, no swapping occurred between any couples. None of the single ladies joined us either.

After we closed up Lili, my "date" wanted to go to a disco nearby. Fahrenheit, I think it was called. We met up with the Fase II babes there. I was hoping we'd take one or both to them home, but sadly that was not go be. (My "date" is Bi, BTW.) She wanted the Venezolana as much as I wanted. The Fase II chicas left. There was a table of babes nearby, with this Outstanding Chica. Unfortunately she wanted too much and wouldn't budge. My "date" also couldn't get her to close the deal.

The sun was out when we left the disco. Ms Semi Pro still wanted to party. We hit another bar called VIP room, I think. (Things were starting to get fuzzy at this point.) I have no clue were this place is located. It wasn't that crowded and there were a few women there. We had 1 round at headed home. We got back to the apartment after 9 a.

Friday: I arrived at Ejecutiva about 12:30 a, it was crowded, but not as much as the previous Friday. Also, it looked like less chicas, Maybe because of the rain. I bounced between Ejecutiva and Maracaibo the rest of the night. Hooked up with the MILF from Monday night again. She wanted a repeat. We were going to hit a nearby Motel since it was a;most closing time. On the way to the motel, she mentioned Casa Blanca, an after hours club. I had heard about this place, but wasn't sure of its location. Surprisingly it's walking distance from Lafayette Motel. I think this is a illegal club, it has no signage, locked barred entrance. They only open when the coast is clear. This is were the the Maracaibo and Ejecutiva chicas go, when there clubs close. It was packed. Lots of young local dudes too. Beers and ladies drink are 6 K. They also have dancers, who come around looking for tips after their set. This place is open til Noon or later!

We had a couple of rounds, and walked to Lafayette motel. Another good time with this MILF, but she balked at the BBBJ this time. This was the second night I got home after 9 a.


No, it's certainly not like the places you mentioned where it's pretty much in your face. That said, any hobbyist who does his research and is reasonably determined can find pay-for-play in MDE. Even if he speaks no Spanish.I speak Spanish, I did my research prior to my first trip. Some of these casitas are hard to find, as there is no signage, and some have no address on display. (It's the Blue Door, for example.) Other examples, Sexy Fantasias 1 and Chicas Punto com are hidden away inside a a small shopping mall on the second and third floor. Had I not cross path with the tout outside, I never would have found these places. Yakusa, is on a street, an ally maybe, that doesn't show up on Google maps. I was wandering around the area trying to find it. The Dude I was with, on my first trip, who has been here many times, also had some difficulty find some of these places. This is what BlackPage was referring too. And I'll add the difficulty of getting BBBJ here. I having fun, but I've had More fun in other places.

[Eszpresszo]

I speak Spanish, I did my research prior to my first trip. Some of these casitas are hard to find, as there is no signage, and some have no address on display. (It's the Blue Door, for example.) Other examples, Sexy Fantasias 1 and Chicas Punto com are hidden away inside a a small shopping mall on the second and third floor. Had I not cross path with the tout outside, I never would have found these places. Yakusa, is on a street, an ally maybe, that doesn't show up on Google maps. Yes, it is! Look at it again. Its on Carrera 50-a behind the Hotel Nutibara. Its not marked but its right next door to the "love hotel" Desios, which you can see on Google streetview. Desios has an image of a charging unicorn on the front window. LOL. Its actually on the same short block where the airport combus departs and arrives. If you need to pop as soon as you arrive, or right before you leave for the airport, you are only 50 feet away from Yakuza.

I scoped out the general vicinity based on the address via google maps before setting out, so I knew what to look for. But, as I got on the Avenida behind the Nutibara, some hawker was handing out little slips of paper for Yakuza with the address, and he pointed over his shoulder. How could it have been easier to find, other than having him take you by the hand and lead you there? Yakuza doesn't have a sign, but the door was wide open. Some young guys were loitering around the entrance, talking to a young chica. I said "Yakuza?" (remember, I don't speak Spanish) and the chica nodded and motioned me inside. The rest is in my trip report.

For those who need a bit more guidance, check out the photos on this site.

http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/erotic-massage-parlor

Click on the thumbnails for the casa you want to visit and it will give a reasonable idea of where you need to be going. The door in the middle is where you should walk in. I checked out the location for Barcelona, but did not go in, whilst walking through that neigborhood. I hailed a cab and showed him the street address to Aifee on my smart phone. He dropped me right in front of the place. You can bet cab drivers know where this stuff is at. The entrance to Aifee is just like the door in the middle of the photo on the website, as well as on google maps streetview. It has a bright red door frame. Easy to spot. I swear, the internet makes this shit so easy! But, not everyone is me.

[Jasoonnn]

I am booked for Colombia for 2+ weeks in mid Nov, and had a couple questions, or more like recommendations. Basically stuff that I wasn't able to find after extensive RTTF. And since I will be staying in MDE for the majority of the time, I am posting in this forum.

I am travelling solo, 34 years old, decent Spanish skills, average salsa / bacahta dancing skills (which I hear is good for the non-pros), and I prefer my girls semi-pro to non-pro, with GFE.

My first stop is Bogota, landing on a Friday afternoon, was the only direct flight from Toronto, so am going to spend the weekend there, then head to a different city. The cities that I want to cover are Bogota, Medellin, Cali and (maybe) Cartagena. I will be booking one way flights within the cities they are about $40 Canadian dollars (1 $ = 2200 COP), and am ok with booking flights and hotels / Airbnb's at the last minute. I don't want to have a set itinerary, in case I like / dislike one city and want to stay there longer / shorter.

-- Question #1 is, since I have 3 weekends to spend in Colombia, which of those cities are better during the week, and which ones deserve a weekend?

-- Second question: Is the weather as cold as it says in Bogota, and as rainy as it says in Medellin? I'm from Canada, so I want the warm weather, which is why I have Cali & Cartagena in mind.

-- 3rd question, I've been reading that getting girls from Facebook is a good idea. How would I add some girls, I. E. Where would I start in finding them? I am getting Tinder + (as recommended by YippieKayay), and other dating apps, so that will help.

Can't think of anything else to ask right now, but feel free to give any recommendations, or anything that might help me.

Thank you for your help, and look forward to providing updated reports during and after my stay.

[Black Page]

Recap of this week: You really know how to move around there! Kudos.

Lili is one of my favorite places. The problem is that they admit singles only on dead days, and on hot days real couples can spot immediately if your date is a semipro or not. Hence the chances to play with real couples or not.

Casa Blanca has been active there for many years already. It's not so bad. A nice place where to go afterhours ("amanacero", which should be "amanacedero" Anyone knows if La Manzana is still open? How is it? Years ago, a taxi driver named it to me as a "nido de perros".

[Java Man]

Yes, it is! Look at it again. Its on Carrera 50-a behind the Hotel Nutibara. some hawker was handing out little slips of paper for Yakuza with the address, and he pointed over his shoulder.My fault for not being clear. I did find it. Prior to finding it, I asked staff at a business around the corner from it and they didn't know. Finally encountered the Hawker a block away, and I had him take me to it. Sadly, nothing to my liking at the time. Went another time and only 2 chicas present. They supposedly close later than all the other centro casitas.

[SavePros321]

Fair enough, I agree with MDE not being as English friendly as the other places like Thailand and the scene wasn't designed with foreigners in mind. At the same time, if we are just talking about casas and places like San Diego and Face Dos, etc, how much really needs to be said? Agree to the pre set price package, pick a girl and go. If you are there to just screw, not much need to be said especially at the kinds of places I mentioned before. As far as taxis, have the address of the place you want to go handy and give it to the driver, if he doesn't know, move on to someone who does or he will ask another driver how to get there (that was my experience). This is still bad advice. You are continuing to overlook everything else that happens outside of visiting casas and strip clubs. Can you order from an all Spanish menu? What happens if you drugged and robbed? Do you know how to call the police and explain this to them? Can you describe the physical description of the assailants?

Let's take your example of "oh, you don't need to know any Spanish. Just hand the taxi driver a piece of paper with the address of where you want to go". Knowing a decent amount of Spanish will help you with situational awareness, because if the taxi driver turns to you and says "sure amigo, but we are going to make a detour through my barrio first to pick up my friend because he wants to go as well", then you would have no idea that you are possibly in danger.

You may think the above example may be a wild exaggeration, but there was a Senior Member here (I think it may have been Ricker; I remember that this particular poster would post here and also in the Rio thread) who wrote about bailing out of a taxi mid-trip leaving La Mayorista because the driver was taking a route different than what was asked of him. This particular Senior Member knew the area well and also understood and spoke some Spanish, so he was able to assess the situation and make a judgement call that possible kept him out of danger.

Just imagine the shit you would be in with the opposite.

[You Can]

We all make mistakes! Thanks to owning up to that one. I have definitely made my share. It takes a real man to admit he probably didn't do the right thing.

Thumbs up.


Yes I know. I shouldn't have done it. I was just curious to see how far you could get. To be honest I feel bad because this girl was probably desperate for work. I bet Cartagena is flooded now with Venezuelans and its hard for working girls to find clients regularly.

[Mr Enternational]

This is still bad advice. You are continuing to overlook everything else that happens outside of visiting casas and strip clubs. Can you order from an all Spanish menu? What happens if you drugged and robbed? Do you know how to call the police and explain this to them? Can you describe the physical description of the assailants?

Let's take your example of "oh, you don't need to know any Spanish.Hell. I can barely do all of that stuff in English. Been to Vietnam; do not speak Vietnamese. Been to Russia; can only say Hello, and biotch in Russian. Been to Egypt and can not speak any Arabic. Been to a ton of other places without knowing the language. If everyone depended on knowing the local language before going anywhere then nobody would ever go anywhere. Even if you do know the language, that is not going to stop evildoers that wish to do you harm. They are not going to stop with their plans for the simple fact that you can say hey this is not the way to my hotel in the local language.

[Ee2002]

This is still bad advice. You are continuing to overlook everything else that happens outside of visiting casas and strip clubs. Can you order from an all Spanish menu? What happens if you drugged and robbed? Do you know how to call the police and explain this to them? Can you describe the physical description of the assailants?

Let's take your example of "oh, you don't need to know any Spanish. Just hand the taxi driver a piece of paper with the address of where you want to go". Knowing a decent amount of Spanish will help you with situational awareness, because if the taxi driver turns to you and says "sure amigo, but we are going to make a detour through my barrio first to pick up my friend because he wants to go as well", then you would have no idea that you are possibly in danger.

You may think the above example may be a wild exaggeration, but there was a Senior Member here (I think it may have been Ricker; I remember that this particular poster would post here and also in the Rio thread) who wrote about bailing out of a taxi mid-trip leaving La Mayorista because the driver was taking a route different than what was asked of him. This particular Senior Member knew the area well and also understood and spoke some Spanish, so he was able to assess the situation and make a judgement call that possible kept him out of danger.

Just imagine the shit you would be in with the opposite.Ok, the scenarios you described can happen anywhere you travel where the primary language is other than your own, even the sexual tourism locations, especially once you venture out of the tourist zone. Obviously learning the language is a good thing to do anywhere you go, but it's not absolutely necessary and you are not doomed if you don't, even in Medellin. Like Mr E said, you wouldn't be able to travel anywhere if that was the prerequisite. Although Medellin still isn't English friendly, there have been info available online about this place for over a decade. Many trip reports have been written about where to go and not to go. If your language skills are lacking and you have problems reading a menu there are ways around it, this is 2016, LOL.

Anyways, that's my view and I can respect the other opinions on the subject based on your experience. We don't have to agree on everything. Most important thing is that you do your research (RTFF), be respectful, be careful and have a good time, can we at least agree on that, LOL!

[Combo]

I am booked for Colombia for 2+ weeks in mid Nov, and had a couple questions, or more like recommendations. Basically stuff that I wasn't able to find after extensive RTTF. And since I will be staying in MDE for the majority of the time, I am posting in this forum.

I am travelling solo, 34 years old, decent Spanish skills, average salsa / bacahta dancing skills (which I hear is good for the non-pros), and I prefer my girls semi-pro to non-pro, with GFE.

My first stop is Bogota, landing on a Friday afternoon, was the only direct flight from Toronto, so am going to spend the weekend there, then head to a different city. The cities that I want to cover are Bogota, Medellin, Cali and (maybe) Cartagena. I will be booking one way flights within the cities they are about $40 Canadian dollars (1 $ = 2200 COP), and am ok with booking flights and hotels / Airbnb's at the last minute. I don't want to have a set itinerary, in case I like / dislike one city and want to stay there longer / shorter.

-- Question #1 is, since I have 3 weekends to spend in Colombia, which of those cities are better during the week, and which ones deserve a weekend?

-- Second question: Is the weather as cold as it says in Bogota, and as rainy as it says in Medellin? I'm from Canada, so I want the warm weather, which is why I have Cali & Cartagena in mind.

-- 3rd question, I've been reading that getting girls from Facebook is a good idea. How would I add some girls, I. E. Where would I start in finding them? I am getting Tinder + (as recommended by YippieKayay), and other dating apps, so that will help.

Can't think of anything else to ask right now, but feel free to give any recommendations, or anything that might help me.

Thank you for your help, and look forward to providing updated reports during and after my stay.If you have average Salsa and Bachata skills, you are ahead of most Paisas. Regaetton is much more popular in MDE than Salsa or Bachata. Although in la Cueva (basement of the Mansion), they'll play some Bachata or Salsa here and there to appeal to us visitors. And there are a few decent Salsa clubs near la 70. However, if you try to give the Paisas a cross body lead / dile que no, they're not likely to know what you want them to do.

Medellin is not Cuba, Puerto Rico, or the DR. The quality of dance is generally not high. Cali, however, is a different story (for Salsa, not Bachata). If you want, PM me and I can give you some music / dance ideas for Cali.

If you're looking for nice warm weather, I'd spend more time in MDE and Cali. Cartagena can be scorching hot. I haven't gone to BOG for the same reasons that you listed. It's supposed to be cold and I like nice pleasant weather on vacation. All these cities will have plenty of weekday chica options. However, Bogota, given its size, likely has more way possibilities than the others.

[Java Man]

A competing forum held a Halloween Party last night in the Poblado area. Lot of talent and eye candy, and some great sexy costumes. Supposedly, chicas from the casitas and strip bars were present, but a few I talked to were semi-pro Freelancers. Hooked up with a super cute, twenty-something Hottie. Great ass on this girl, Back at the apartment, got GFE and BBBJ from her. The sight of her in doggie, Ass Up, OMG! Centerfold quality!! Yummy Girl, got to repeat with this one.

Walked her out to get a taxi after 4 a. All the area bars and clubs had closed. Everyone and their cousin were on the streets. Saw lots of Great costumes too. It was a zoo. There were not enough cabs. And some of the taxi's were refusing fares. Food stands and one restaurant I visited had run out of food. Even though there are no Haunted Houses, they celebrate Halloween Great here.

[YippieKayay]

My first stop is Bogota, landing on a Friday afternoon, was the only direct flight from Toronto, so am going to spend the weekend there, then head to a different city. The cities that I want to cover are Bogota, Medellin, Cali and (maybe) Cartagena. I will be booking one way flights within the cities they are about $40 Canadian dollars (1 $ = 2200 COP), and am ok with booking flights and hotels / Airbnb's at the last minute. I don't want to have a set itinerary, in case I like / dislike one city and want to stay there longer / shorter.


I booked my Airbnb ahead of time for MDE. The nice apartments are booked solid in November. I was lucky and found a nice place 5 minutes from parque lleras. Travelling in a couple of weeks a well.

[Queens35]

Personally, I enjoy spending a few hours or overnight with the non-pros or the semi-pros. Spending a few hours with a non-pro is called a date. Can you get a regular date in the USA (or wherever you are from)? If not, forget about getting a woman to go out with you in Colombia. If you are referring to several hours or overnight with money involved, then you are talking about a professional. If a women takes money for sex, she is a pro. But if semi-pro, or non-pro, is some kind of justification for you, so be it.

If you can get a regular woman to go on a date with you at home, and you speak pretty good Spanish, you should be able to get a date in Colombia. But if you are staying at the Mansion or Parque LLeras, you probably won't a regular woman to agree to it once she figures out that you are a working girl monger.

[Queens35]

So this morning I tried something completely different. I changed my location to Cartagena on Tinder. I found the Cartagena Tinder, as has been reported in the past, is flooded with working girls.

Instead of the usual mister naive nice guy I like to play, I decided to be a complete asshole and see how far I could get. I told her right of the bat to shut up (callate), she sent back a "jajaja soy dame de campania" to which I sarcastically told her I was surprised to hear. I proceeded to tell her I had a jacuzzi waiting in Medellin and wanted to fly her out. I told her all expenses will be paid and I would give her a good sum of money (did not mention how much). I didn't even wait for a response. I told her I would do her "sin condom" the entire two weeks she would be with and not to argue. I expected her to unmatch. Instead she sent me her whatsapp number and told me she's game.

In Whatsapp I asked her for a cedula number so I could book her on the Avianca flight. She sent me a photo of her ID which shocked me even more.

I unmatched her and blocked her on whatsapp. Honestly, I was surprised any of that worked but being hyper aggressive and just generally an asshole gets results?Real class act.

It's scumbags like you that turn the chicas into thinking all gringos are scamming douchebags.

[Combo]

Spending a few hours with a non-pro is called a date. Can you get a regular date in the USA (or wherever you are from)? If not, forget about getting a woman to go out with you in Colombia. If you are referring to several hours or overnight with money involved, then you are talking about a professional. If a women takes money for sex, she is a pro. But if semi-pro, or non-pro, is some kind of justification for you, so be it.

If you can get a regular woman to go on a date with you at home, and you speak pretty good Spanish, you should be able to get a date in Colombia. But if you are staying at the Mansion or Parque LLeras, you probably won't a regular woman to agree to it once she figures out that you are a working girl monger.Yup. If you're after a non-pro or even a semi-pro and you're staying at the Mansion, you're going to need to pay for additional accommodations for those nights. Even a semi-pro will freak out if you're staying at the Mansion. FWIW I would define a semi-pro as a girl that does this very rarely and prefers to do it under cover of "dating. ".

[PickCherry12]

Real class act.

It's scumbags like you that turn the chicas into thinking all gringos are scamming douchebags.I agree that that was stupid and it was foolish of him playing on poor and desperate people. Remember they do what they do because they don't have any choice.

[Black Page]

Even a semi-pro will freak out if you're staying at the Mansion.A true "kiss of death".

[You Can]

Let's get back to trip reports and fun. I don't speak espanol and I am find traveling. Is everyone cut out for it no. I am street smart, yes I can order from a all Spanish menu I do it all the time. Sometimes it can be funny because I fuck up and look and go what the fuck is this? Also most restaurants and bars have wifi so it helps to get connected because you can use your tranlator if you have no Spanish. That can help someone. But sure it be great to be fluent in all languages but for me it's not going to happen.

I been in all kind of situations and ended up making my way through them even with illegal situations.

Medellin is a big city, some people you could drop off in Mannhatten and they would be lost even speaking English.

You just need to want to travel and fucking do it.

Fuck worrying about Spanish. Try to learn basic stuff and get on a fucking plane and travel. That's what I do.


Ok, the scenarios you described can happen anywhere you travel where the primary language is other than your own, even the sexual tourism locations, especially once you venture out of the tourist zone. Obviously learning the language is a good thing to do anywhere you go, but it's not absolutely necessary and you are not doomed if you don't, even in Medellin. Like Mr E said, you wouldn't be able to travel anywhere if that was the prerequisite. Although Medellin still isn't English friendly, there have been info available online about this place for over a decade. Many trip reports have been written about where to go and not to go. If your language skills are lacking and you have problems reading a menu there are ways around it, this is 2016, LOL.

Anyways, that's my view and I can respect the other opinions on the subject based on your experience. We don't have to agree on everything. Most important thing is that you do your research (RTFF), be respectful, be careful and have a good time, can we at least agree on that, LOL!

[Crazy Jim Wood]

Shut up fng. Only 2 posts and you criticize a real member.The girl seemed okay with his offer. You don't know these girls. They don't see gringos as scammers, the guy wasn't even scamming anyone. So he negotiated a deal that he was not serious about. Plenty of people cancel on deals they are serious about. The girls are used to it. They see gringos as moneybags to be scammed. They will eat you alive if you try and be a Capn Savaho. So when you see a guy talking about developing his game be happy someone is sharing good info.


I agree that that was stupid and it was foolish of him playing on poor and desperate people. Remember they do what they do because they don't have any choice.

[Surfer500]

Shut up fng. Only 2 posts and you criticize a real member.The girl seemed okay with his offer. You don't know these girls. They don't see gringos as scammers, the guy wasn't even scamming anyone. They see gringos as moneybags to be scammed. They will eat you alive if you try and be a Capn Savaho. So when you see a guy talking about developing his game be happy someone is sharing good info. .There's a lot of ways to skin a cat and he could of gotten the same results in a completely different way.

As far as the girls not seeing gringos as scammers, well they actually see gringos as walking ATM machines!

[Paulie97]

Let's get back to trip reports and fun. I don't speak espanol and I am find traveling. Is everyone cut out for it no. I am street smart, yes I can order from a all Spanish menu I do it all the time. Sometimes it can be funny because I fuck up and look and go what the fuck is this? Also most restaurants and bars have wifi so it helps to get connected because you can use your tranlator if you have no Spanish. That can help someone. But sure it be great to be fluent in all languages but for me it's not going to happen.

I been in all kind of situations and ended up making my way through them even with illegal situations.

Medellin is a big city, some people you could drop off in Mannhatten and they would be lost even speaking English.

You just need to want to travel and fucking do it.

Fuck worrying about Spanish. Try to learn basic stuff and get on a fucking plane and travel. That's what I do.I'm for moving on as well. I'll add this though, all this long winded scrambling and defensiveness against a few suggestions to learn some Spanish is rather telling and actually surprising. Just got off your lazy ass and improve your skills in the language of places you want to visit. The more you know the more your trip will be enhanced. There are a lot of free apps out there and you'the be surprised how much you can learn just putting in an hour a day.

Also guys with only a handful of Spanish words in their pocket would likely be better off in a place like Costa Rica with a number of English speaking hotels that cater to tourists, English speaking chicas working as independents, and English speaking staff at several of the popular casas or MPs frequented by gringos. In fact in these venues most of your working girls know a fair amount of basic English just as result of dealing with a lot of gringos.

[Paulie97]

Shut up fng. Only 2 posts and you criticize a real member.The girl seemed okay with his offer. You don't know these girls. They don't see gringos as scammers, the guy wasn't even scamming anyone. So he negotiated a deal that he was not serious about. Plenty of people cancel on deals they are serious about. The girls are used to it. They see gringos as moneybags to be scammed. They will eat you alive if you try and be a Capn Savaho. So when you see a guy talking about developing his game be happy someone is sharing good info...Well you just prove beyond all doubt that post counts don't necessarily correlate with intelligent feedback. Thought I'the mention that since you bring the subject up. The OP himself admitted that his actions were wrong then manned up and apologized to the girl. Good move as his actions were indefensible. You though sound like you have some anger issues and feel that any random girl deserves this sort of treatment because your feelings have been hurt in the past. Boo Hoo. Please keep that horseshit in the states, is not wanted in Medellin.

[The Tall Man]

A competing forum held a Halloween Party last night in the Poblado area. Lot of talent and eye candy, and some great sexy costumes. Supposedly, chicas from the casitas and strip bars were present, but a few I talked to were semi-pro Freelancers. Hooked up with a super cute, twenty-something Hottie. Great ass on this girl, Back at the apartment, got GFE and BBBJ from her. The sight of her in doggie, Ass Up, OMG! Centerfold quality!! Yummy Girl, got to repeat with this one.

Walked her out to get a taxi after 4 a. All the area bars and clubs had closed. Everyone and their cousin were on the streets. Saw lots of Great costumes too. It was a zoo. There were not enough cabs. And some of the taxi's were refusing fares. Food stands and one restaurant I visited had run out of food. Even though there are no Haunted Houses, they celebrate Halloween Great here.I was there too, from about 10 PM until 5 AM and wow the crowds, the costumes, the party atmosphere and the girls. Although I did not partake (I drank way too much) it was one hell of a night!

TTM.

[DJ FourMoney]

Let's get back to trip reports and fun. I don't speak espanol and I am find traveling. Is everyone cut out for it no. I am street smart, yes I can order from a all Spanish menu I do it all the time. Sometimes it can be funny because I fuck up and look and go what the fuck is this? Also most restaurants and bars have wifi so it helps to get connected because you can use your tranlator if you have no Spanish. That can help someone. But sure it be great to be fluent in all languages but for me it's not going to happen.

I been in all kind of situations and ended up making my way through them even with illegal situations.

Medellin is a big city, some people you could drop off in Mannhatten and they would be lost even speaking English.

You just need to want to travel and fucking do it.

Fuck worrying about Spanish. Try to learn basic stuff and get on a fucking plane and travel. That's what I do.I completely agree, the same could be said for dropping somebody off in LOS Angeles, but if they are of Latin decent and know Spanish they'll find their way around much easier than a native English speaker from some some rural small town.

Anyway, I thought the advantage of knowing Spanish (or Portuguese) helped most with business and negotiating with non-Pros? But the ad nauseam rant around here is how long it takes to get into a local's panties.

Not knowing the language forces you to pay more? That might be true but isn't already cheaper than many locations to start with? = YES.

When I was in SP earlier this year I only had about $500 US cash available and had to make it last 28 days. It helped that after my time at an AirBnB apartment I stayed at a hostel where I got to know the owners and everybody else spoke English very well.

I had to find affordable mongering options. Lucky there is plenty of choice down market that the locals mostly use and I was never turned away despite being African-American, hmmm. I was never overcharged either; based on information I found on local web forums (in Portuguese via Google Translate) I was paying exactly what others had reported.

Ironically my mission was to connect with non-Pros via various websites and that was failing miserably mostly because I didn't know Portuguese but eventually learned "Thank You", "Hi" and "Good Bye". Even a local who works for Delta Airlines said "Man you need to learn some Portuguese because hooking up with chicks is not hard. ".

I can corroborate his premise too.

So knowing the local language is somewhat overrated. It's more important if you live there.

[Jonesie]

A competing forum held a Halloween Party last night in the Poblado area. Lot of talent and eye candy, and some great sexy costumes. Supposedly, chicas from the casitas and strip bars were present, but a few I talked to were semi-pro Freelancers. Hooked up with a super cute, twenty-something Hottie. Great ass on this girl, Back at the apartment, got GFE and BBBJ from her. The sight of her in doggie, Ass Up, OMG! Centerfold quality!! Yummy Girl, got to repeat with this one.

Walked her out to get a taxi after 4 a. All the area bars and clubs had closed. Everyone and their cousin were on the streets. Saw lots of Great costumes too. It was a zoo. There were not enough cabs. And some of the taxi's were refusing fares. Food stands and one restaurant I visited had run out of food. Even though there are no Haunted Houses, they celebrate Halloween Great here.Thanks for coming. It was a blast. Head count came to 166.92 chicas, 74 gringos. This was my first party in Medellin, so I got stupid with the booze and bought a bunch of top shelf liquor that nobody gave a shit about. I almost shit when I saw one of the maids pouring a bunch of rum and cokes with the Zacapa XO. If the party made any money at all, it was plus or minus 100 k pesos. Which is exactly what we were going for.

I'll be honest though, at about 9:45, I was looking at 50 guys and about 6 girls and started to get a little worried. Boyd explained the dynamic and told me to chill. Towards the end, as the guys were leaving with girls, more girls were showing up, but the guys attending had leveled off. I ended up paying for a few taxis for drunk, dateless chicas to go home. Some guys are talking about doing a super bowl party, and I think I'm game. We'll see.

[Combo]

I agree that that was stupid and it was foolish of him playing on poor and desperate people. Remember they do what they do because they don't have any choice.I'm all for treating the girls as human beings because they are. However, I'm wouldn't say they don't have any choice. They could work a "normal job" and make a shit wage. Some girls choose the "easy" route of being a prepago, but plenty of poor girls don't. And I'm not necessarily blaming them. It might be a rational decision.

I don't think the OP was necessarily "playing on" poor desperate girls. I think it's more likely than he was just making a fool of himself and possibly putting himself at risk. Many of these girls have some pretty tough hombres as friends. If the OP met this girl in person, she may very well have one-upped him in the nasty threats arena.

[You Can]

Perfectly Put.


Well you just prove beyond all doubt that post counts don't necessarily correlate with intelligent feedback. Thought I'the mention that since you bring the subject up. The OP himself admitted that his actions were wrong then manned up and apologized to the girl. Good move as his actions were indefensible. You though sound like you have some anger issues and feel that any random girl deserves this sort of treatment because your feelings have been hurt in the past. Boo Hoo. Please keep that horseshit in the states, is not wanted in Medellin.

[Turgid]

I agree that that was stupid and it was foolish of him playing on poor and desperate people. Remember they do what they do because they don't have any choice.People who pull these pranks are actually poor and desperate themselves. Gentlemen travelers have no time for such foolishness.

[SavePros321]

Remember they do what they do because they don't have any choice.I don't have any commentary about your response to the original post; just commenting on your quote from above because this is absolutely not true in the least bit. These chicks are not sitting around starving because there is no gringo sex tourist within a 10 mile radius of her to offer sex for money. They were eating before you got there, and will continue to do so once you have departed back to your home country.

I have been going to Medelland since 2012 and not once have I met a chica who was not dressed well and did not have a cell phone. Most of the chicas I have met hook to buy themselves expensive clothes, accessories, iPhones, etc. Some have day jobs and can only visit me during the late evening. Most are in school and can only visit me on days they do not have class or late afternoon (although I am sure there are plenty that will skip class in order to make some pesos). I have yet to meet any chica who looked to me as if she had just rolled out from under her cardboard box off the street before coming to visit me.

Maybe it just me, but I have never met an extremely poor chica who is able to afford a data plan to be able to communicate daily with extrajernos. I would imagine that the streetwalkers would be the ones considered the poorest of the p4p bunch and may have to do it (hook) because they may not have a choice, but I doubt they would have money to spend on things like data plans, smart phones, and Colombian Cupid when they have mouths to feed.

In regards to Medellin, I can say with extreme confidence that at least 98% of the chicas I met are hooking because:

-It's legal for them to do so, so why not?

-The money is better than working some boring-ass job earning peanuts.

-It is supplemental money to the money they are making at their current job.

-It pays for tuition, books, etc.

-They just want to buy expensive things to show off to friends (both in real life and on Facebook). Plus if she can get some bobo to fly her to Cancun it will make all of her friends (in my best bimbo-internet voice) "super-jealous!"

[YippieKayay]

These chicks are not sitting around starving because there is no gringo sex tourist within a 10 mile radius of her to offer sex for money. They were eating before you got there, and will continue to do so once you have departed back to your home country.The last chica I "wifed" up with for a year came from a wealthy family, had an engineering degree, and owned plenty of property. Nearing the end of her tenure as my "mistress" she was even looking at using Airbnb to make more money.

In her own words she wasn't "mediocre" and refused to work a normal job. She would rather vacation with me in Aruba at an expensive resort, and lube her ass up every morning than sit in a cubicle and earn a couple of million pesos a month. "You make me feel rich," she would say. She was also crazy in my opinion, but I'm not health care worker so I can't really say she had mental health issues. At the end of our relationship she flew back to Panama City where she likes to sit in a pick up bar and sell herself. When I asked her why she did that she said: "It's all I know. " The most ridiculous statement I ever heard.

Mind you we had a great time together.

I'm very good friends with her aunt, who of course, doesn't know what her niece really does, or is in denial. Her aunt once explained to me that there is a subculture of Colombian women who take advantage of foreign men to earn more income. She told me these women typically are eligible for government welfare checks, or they simply do this on the side to earn more income. She told me to never believe these women, or assume that they are victims. "Parasitos" is the word she used.

I'm not saying the Venezuelan you meet in Cartagena is rich and doesn't need the money. I'm just saying the vast majority of the hot Colombian chicas you meet with plastic surgery and expensive purses are not starving. They supplement their income fucking foreign men. In North America these women would be models, tv presenters, or club promoters. In Colombia they engage in "la puteria. ".

EDIT:

An honestly, I'm a little tired of the responses to the prank I pulled. The chica didn't give a shit. This morning she sent me some silly meme and asked if it would be my first visit to Colombia. She then proceeded to offer some advise on things to see in Medellin and Cartagena. No harm done. Really...

[Mr Enternational]

I don't have any commentary about your response to the original post; just commenting on your quote from above because this is absolutely not true in the least bit.I thought he was being sarcastic when he said they did not have a choice. There is always a choice.


Yes some guys like to put prostitutes on a pedal stool and worship them, I am not one, I certainly don't buy into the crazy notion that Angeles prostitutes have no other option open to them but to sell their pussy to make money, they mostly are in the business for the large easy money IMHO.

Its funny how 80 million pinoys can put food on the table but the few thousand prostitutes cannot, the mind boggles

[Crazy Jim Wood]

"Indefensible" is a rather strong word. Clearly you are angry that somewhere in the world a woman may have not been treated with chivalry. And you will defend this random girl you don't know, because after your chivalrous act of course she will have sex with you. So has rescuing internet damsels in distress on the internet worked for you getting you laid, bro? Yeah that's what I thought.


Well you just prove beyond all doubt that post counts don't necessarily correlate with intelligent feedback. Thought I'the mention that since you bring the subject up. The OP himself admitted that his actions were wrong then manned up and apologized to the girl. Good move as his actions were indefensible. You though sound like you have some anger issues and feel that any random girl deserves this sort of treatment because your feelings have been hurt in the past. Boo Hoo. Please keep that horseshit in the states, is not wanted in Medellin.

[Paulie97]

An honestly, I'm a little tired of the responses to the prank I pulled. The chica didn't give a shit. This morning she sent me some silly meme and asked if it would be my first visit to Colombia. She then proceeded to offer some advise on things to see in Medellin and Cartagena. No harm done. Really...Who knows really as it's the internet and all we have to go on is what you tell us. But you are typing a lot of long posts and seeking attention. Perhaps you were hoping for a bunch of congratulations out of the real or imagined story then when that backfired started working on the fly. In any case though some maturity would be in order. That much we can take to the bank for sure.

[Paulie97]

Clearly you are angry that somewhere in the world a woman may have not been treated with chivalry."Clearly" you painted yourself in a corner when you pounced on the newbie with two posts and now need to move the goal posts. Dickish behavior is dickish behavior. It's worth calling out as it gives us a bad name in foreign venues. And your argument that any woman in the business is out to get us and thus deserves the abuse is the product of a guy that isn't thinking straight. I rest my case. Back to the regularly scheduled program, reports on the ground in Colombia and the like.

[RedTibetan23]

"Clearly" you painted yourself in a corner when you pounced on the newbie with two posts and now need to move the goal posts. Dickish behavior is dickish behavior. It's worth calling out as it gives us a bad name in foreign venues. And your argument that any woman in the business is out to get us and thus deserves the abuse is the product of a guy that isn't thinking straight. I rest my case. Back to the regularly scheduled program, reports on the ground in Colombia and the like.Sitting in a bar in a bar in Manhattan right now. I'm early 50's, good physical condition, and well dressed. I am sitting next to 3 women. 2 in their mid-late 50's (ok looking given their age) and one chubby but cute girl in her early 30's. I sat next to them on purpose because I thought I might be able to get something going with them. But Nothing despite trying to be nice (not at all aggressive on my part. Not part of my nature).

Anyway, there's no specific point to my post other than I'm spending enough money on 2 drinks that would get me 2 blow jobs in Medellin (which I left 2 weeks ago). This is literally a sex prison. Enjoy your time fully while you are down there guys. It's a special place and I can't wait for my next trip.

[You Can]

I been in your exact shoes many times rite down to Mannhatten bar. Usually it sucks for women, once it ahwhile the stars will align but rarely.

I sitting at my house bar in Cartagena waiting for this super hot 24 year old to show up at 11. I have known her for a couple years. She will dance all around this apartment and suck and fuck everywhere. Then will hit the clubs and who knows bring another girl home to party with us.

Life is good my friend.

It's always nice looking to get back to Colombia!


Sitting in a bar in a bar in Manhattan right now. I'm early 50's, good physical condition, and well
dressed. I am sitting next to 3 women. 2 in their mid-late 50's (ok looking given their age) and one chubby but cute girl in her early 30's. I sat next to them on purpose because I thought I might be able to get something going with them. But Nothing despite trying to be nice (not at all aggressive on my part. Not part of my nature).

Anyway, there's no specific point to my post other than I'm spending enough money on 2 drinks that would get me 2 blow jobs in Medellin (which I left 2 weeks ago). This is literally a sex prison. Enjoy your time fully while you are down there guys. It's a special place and I can't wait for my next trip.

[Kenney]

I been in your exact shoes many times rite down to Mannhatten bar. Usually it sucks for women, once it ahwhile the stars will align but rarely.

I sitting at my house bar in Cartagena waiting for this super hot 24 year old to show up at 11. I have known her for a couple years. She will dance all around this apartment and suck and fuck everywhere. Then will hit the clubs and who knows bring another girl home to party with us.

Life is good my friend.

It's always nice looking to get back to Colombia!Haha. To funny "Sex Prison". I am going down this week for my second time. I am flying two girls in. One will probably show up. I have no idea why I bring sand to the beach but these girls are smoke shows and I can't get them into the US. So I invite them down. Have each one show up for 2 days. I hit the massage places and I have a pretty bad ass blog. I do well here in the US. I just like the culture down there and its exciting. I am more into the high end girls. I don't really do the value play.

Your post just made me laugh. Maybe I will post a report and a blog on my trip. Last time the over / under was 14 in 3 days. I hit the under at about 10. I spent quality time with a couple girls. I get distracted to easily.

[Fun Luvr]

Monday through Thursday last week, there were a few working ladies around the park each night. Friday night, there were many, a majority were heifers but some slim and pretty. Saturday night, the area was packed, and I saw one lady who may have been working. It looked like "guys night out" because there were probably four times as many guys as ladies. The places where the ladies were hanging out Friday night, had all guys Saturday night. Sunday night, it was raining most of the night, so not much activity at all.

I think the police are watching activities in the park itself, because all the ladies I saw were on the streets, either walking or sitting in front of closed businesses. I saw some couples in the park.

I have more FB friends than I can take care of, so I wasn't looking to pick up a chica. I did say Hello, to a few, and they all gave a positive response.

[YippieKayay]

Monday through Thursday last week, there were a few working ladies around the park each night. Friday night, there were many, a majority were heifers but some slim and pretty. Saturday night, the area was packed, and I saw one lady who may have been working. Just a quick question. Did you assume they were working girls because they were sitting around in groups of women and being friendly or were they very obviously working girls (scantly dressed)?

I'm going to be there next week, and will be 5 minutes away from the park.

[Viajando Musico]

Just a quick question. Did you assume they were working girls because they were sitting around in groups of women and being friendly or were they very obviously working girls (scantly dressed)?

I'm going to be there next week, and will be 5 minutes away from the park.They are very easy to spot, and will make eye contact with you. Many of them didn't dress scantly partially due to the weather at night, but they will make sure that you notice them.

I was having dinner alone at the balcony of a restaurant right next to the Park, and it was raining. 3 moderately dressed working girls passed by, and one of them even flip up her top to show me her tits. I was quite amused with the scene over there around the Park.

[Buffed]

It looked like "guys night out" because there were probably four times as many guys as ladies. The places where the ladies were hanging out Friday night, had all guys Saturday night. Sunday night, it was raining most of the night, so not much activity at all.You hit that on the head. It's absolutely astounding. I'd heard so many good things about Medellin and all the Colombian girls from the states I've met have been beautiful that I assumed they'd be running rampant. I've been to the Parque about four nights since arriving in Medellin and there are very few females, period and no attractive ones who aren't working as bar / restaurant staff. There's so many men (thousands) that I can't even give a m / f percentage estimate, it's that far out of whack. However, this is not to say I haven't been having a great time as I met a hot, sweet babe at the go-to gringo place (Prefer not to mention, you all know it) who kept me busy for couple days. Now I need to go out and look for greener pastures. Any suggestions?

[Buffed]

If you do not stay at the Mansion in Medellin, you do not get in. Period. End of story.You may wish to check on that as I just spoke with the desk attendant yesterday and they've recently changed their policy to allow guests with a cover charge. There may have been some strings attached as far as past residence or full bookings.

[Eszpresszo]

You hit that on the head. It's absolutely astounding. I'd heard so many good things about Medellin and all the Colombian girls from the states I've met have been beautiful that I assumed they'd be running rampant. I've been to the Parque about four nights since arriving in Medellin and there are very few females, period and no attractive ones who aren't working as bar / restaurant staff. There's so many men (thousands) that I can't even give a m / f percentage estimate, it's that far out of whack. However, this is not to say I haven't been having a great time as I met a hot, sweet babe at the go-to gringo place (Prefer not to mention, you all know it) who kept me busy for couple days. Now I need to go out and look for greener pastures. Any suggestions?Yeah. Try looking for women in a brothel! That's why you go to Colombia. Its been pointed out here repeatedly that the short-term visitor is not in a good position to pick up local girls. Just because you have seen some Colombian girls that are hot, doesn't mean they are hot and total sluts, right? Who ever told you that you could pick up hot chicks just walking through a park?

BTW, I never made it down to the "parque", or Poblado for that matter, so I didn't have your problem. I stayed on La 70, strolled to Energia, or took the Metro into Centro and visited the Casas there. Only had to take two cab rides, and that was because I was lost. Adjust your expectations realistically and you should have a great time. Away from the places where the Gringos gather.

[Combo]

You may wish to check on that as I just spoke with the desk attendant yesterday and they've recently changed their policy to allow guests with a cover charge. There may have been some strings attached as far as past residence or full bookings.They've done the cover thing on and off. I'm not sure if you need to have stayed there previously or not. I think it was 50 k last time I was in town.

IMO it's not worth it. There's a significant risk that there will be only a couple homely girls hanging around.

[YippieKayay]

Now I need to go out and look for greener pastures. Any suggestions?From what I gathered from this thread, going back 100 pages, is that Medellin is largely a casa / strip club scene. I don't think I have read any reports of people actually picking up chicas in the parque lleras area. There was one post a page or two back which indicates the hookers in the parque lleras area are by the liquor store. I'm assuming that's the Exito Express but it may be another store. You can also try websites like http://co.mileroticos.com/.

I've yet to see any suggestions on pick up bars like the Veneto / Habanos circuit in Panama City where after about 7:30 pm prepago pussy starts flooding the area (see Panama City thread).

I'm assuming by greener pastures you mean other areas in Colombia? Cartagena seems to have a similar circuit as Panama City with day game at the beach or through tinder (see Combos recent posts), and the clock tower + LDV scene in the old city at night. I've also found a large amount of prepagos on tinder in Cartagena. In Medellin I only landed 3 prepagos through tinder.

In any case, next week I'm spending seven nights in Medellin and four nights in Cartagena. I almost wish I booked Cartagena for more nights now. I'll post a report when I get back.

[Mr Enternational]

From what I gathered from this thread, going back 100 pages, is that Medellin is largely a casa / strip club scene.I am a casa strip club guy, but a buddy of mine gets all of his from facebook.

[Black Page]

From what I gathered from this thread, going back 100 pages, is that Medellin is largely a casa / strip club scene.What you get from this thread is the perspective on Medellin by those who post here (who mostly belong to a well narrow category). It is not necessarily a balanced view, neither complete, of the place. You might see a bit more if you go back 100 pages on the RoD Section, but anyway take your time to roam around and do not overplan. You have just one dick anyway. There's more than enough to keep you busy for a few days.

[Jan 156]

From what I gathered from this thread, going back 100 pages, is that Medellin is largely a casa / strip club scene. My own experience is that there are a lot more 'scenes' in Medellin than can be counted on one hand. Cracking them is the challenge. Some seem limited as they are considered too expensive or too dangerous for most people. The casas are the easiest but you can waste a lot of time joining up dots on a map. Mansion gives a quick intro, even for experienced punters. But other guides that are here today are often gone tomorrow. I wasn't impressed with the strip club scene personally but you have to find your own predilections. A week is not much time to do it. Medellin is an amazing place but not an open book like say Rio. Relax and have fun. After dipping your toes, you'll probably find it's a city to return.

Than.

[Black Page]

My own experience is that there are a lot more 'scenes' in Medellin than can be counted on one hand. Cracking them is the challenge. Some seem limited as they are considered too expensive or too dangerous for most people. The casas are the easiest but you can waste a lot of time joining up dots on a map. Mansion gives a quick intro, even for experienced punters. But other guides that are here today are often gone tomorrow. I wasn't impressed with the strip club scene personally but you have to find your own predilections. A week is not much time to do it. Medellin is an amazing place but not an open book like say Rio. Relax and have fun. After dipping your toes, you'll probably find it's a city to return.
Exactly. A perfect depiction.

P.S.
"The casas are the easiest but you can waste a lot of time joining up dots on a map"? You also have just one dick and limited capacity. Once you enter in one, it's difficult you are so disgusted to be willing to leave. Then how many dots will you join, realistically? Is the walking distance your limiting factor? Congratulations, if so.

[Surfer500]

They are very easy to spot, and will make eye contact with you. Many of them didn't dress scantly partially due to the weather at night, but they will make sure that you notice them..Most of them hang around the downhill portion of the park where the Cuban eating place is on the corner and are easy to spot.

[Black Page]

Most of them hang around the downhill portion of the park where the Cuban eating place is on the corner and are easy to spot.Seriously, do you think that a member of ISG should really need specific instructions and advice on how to recognize if a girl standing in a corner is a working girl or not?

[JjBee62]

Seriously, do you think that a member of ISG should really need specific instructions and advice on how to recognize if a girl standing in a corner is a working girl or not?Should? No.

[YippieKayay]

Seriously, do you think that a member of ISG should really need specific instructions and advice on how to recognize if a girl standing in a corner is a working girl or not?That's not what surfer posted. He posted where they are located. Something that's useful.

[Black Page]

That's not what surfer posted. He posted where they are located. Something that's useful.To be clear: it was not a criticism to Surfer, but a comment on a series of posts which is frankly surprising.

[Dickhead]

Helen Keller could tell who the hookers are in Parque Lleras.

[Mr Enternational]

Helen Keller could tell who the hookers are in Parque Lleras.But you have to remember that some people couldn't spot a hooker in a horehouse. Some of my own friends send casa chicks money. I just shrug my shoulders.

[Mr Enternational]

Seriously, do you think that a member of ISG should really need specific instructions and advice on how to recognize if a girl standing in a corner is a working girl or not?Should and would are two different things. Many ISG members have asked me, while they had boots on the ground, for help getting laid in Pattaya; a town where all you have to do is literally walk outside your hotel door to get some ass.

[Combo]

Should and would are two different things. Many ISG members have asked me, while they had boots on the ground, for help getting laid in Pattaya; a town where all you have to do is literally walk outside your hotel door to get some ass.Good stuff! On a visit to the Mansion years ago, a guest was walking around asking how we "got" the girls there. I tried to encourage him to interact with the chicas, but he was too timid to even approach one!

[Cheerfull]

Good stuff! On a visit to the Mansion years ago, a guest was walking around asking how we "got" the girls there. I tried to encourage him to interact with the chicas, but he was too timid to even approach one!Greetings,

Planning a trip to MDE the second and third week of December. When does MDE and Hotel M start to spin down and go quiet for the Christmas holidays?

Considering a few days at Hotel M and the balance of my time on Ave Setenta.

Thank you,

[Hasideas Tao]

I totally agree.

I live in Medellin. Many things change from day to day, some things have been the same for years.

Personally, I tend to stick to what I know is good and take new routes home and to work every chance I get to see what's new.

For honest respectful guys seeking to fill their visit with pleasurable and exciting experiences, highly value their time as not to waste a moment with painful "learning experiences" yet, know what they want, I personally offer my time, experience, knowledge and suggestions.


What you get from this thread is the perspective on Medellin by those who post here (who mostly belong to a well narrow category). It is not necessarily a balanced view, neither complete, of the place. You might see a bit more if you go back 100 pages on the RoD Section, but anyway take your time to roam around and do not overplan. You have just one dick anyway. There's more than enough to keep you busy for a few days.

[Black Page]

Good stuff! On a visit to the Mansion years ago, a guest was walking around asking how we "got" the girls there. I tried to encourage him to interact with the chicas, but he was too timid to even approach one!Maybe he found the hotel on booking dot com and chose it by chance for his business trip to Medellin.

[Hioctane]

From what I gathered from this thread, going back 100 pages, is that Medellin is largely a casa / strip club scene. I don't think I have read any reports of people actually picking up chicas in the parque lleras area. There was one post a page or two back which indicates the hookers in the parque lleras area are by the liquor store. I'm assuming that's the Exito Express but it may be another store. You can also try websites like http://co.mileroticos.com/.

I've yet to see any suggestions on pick up bars like the Veneto / Habanos circuit in Panama City where after about 7:30 pm prepago pussy starts flooding the area (see Panama City thread).

I'm assuming by greener pastures you mean other areas in Colombia? Cartagena seems to have a similar circuit as Panama City with day game at the beach or through tinder (see Combos recent posts), and the clock tower + LDV scene in the old city at night. I've also found a large amount of prepagos on tinder in Cartagena. In Medellin I only landed 3 prepagos through tinder.

In any case, next week I'm spending seven nights in Medellin and four nights in Cartagena. I almost wish I booked Cartagena for more nights now. I'll post a report when I get back.There is no freelance scene in Medellin. Many have tried and failed. IMO, the biggest advantage of Medellin is the Facebook scene. There are more independents through there than any other city I have even been to!

[GirlsLuvMe]

You may wish to check on that as I just spoke with the desk attendant yesterday and they've recently changed their policy to allow guests with a cover charge. There may have been some strings attached as far as past residence or full bookings.Absolutely true & its been this way for at least 8 months. 50 k pesos is the cover charge. Its hit or miss with when to show up and the quality that would be there. Fase 2 is like a 10 or 20 k cover and definitely going to be a variety of women there.

[YippieKayay]

There is no freelance scene in Medellin. Many have tried and failed. IMO, the biggest advantage of Medellin is the Facebook scene. There are more independents through there than any other city I have even been to!I can't create a second fake facebook account just to hook up like this unfortunately. I noticed on Tinder the prepagos in Medellin wanted to do facebook but I agreed to just WhatsApp.

So with my trip next week, all my prep work is done.

* I have 2 non-pros who said they'd meet up for coffee during the day and help me orient myself around the city.

* I have 4 numbers of mileroticos but only two of the providers will come out to El Poblado so I'll be going to Laureles to see the other two in their apartments.

* I have one woman, who I'm almost 100% sure is a professional bimbo, I met on tinder and she wants to show me around the city. She keeps mentioning gifts that I should buy her so I'm a little leary.

* Finally I mapped out a little circuit of Centro casas from World Traveler's list / map.

I've done no prep work for Cartagena. Based on Combos most recent report it's not remotely needed. Just Beach, Clocktower and LDV should give me enough opportunities.

Thanks everyone for answering questions the last two weeks.

[Combo]

Greetings,

Planning a trip to MDE the second and third week of December. When does MDE and Hotel M start to spin down and go quiet for the Christmas holidays?

Considering a few days at Hotel M and the balance of my time on Ave Setenta.

Thank you,I've never been in MDE beyond about December 20. But I'm guessing our hobby is pretty good right up until Christmas Eve.

[Mr Enternational]

There is no freelance scene in Medellin. Many have tried and failed. IMO, the biggest advantage of Medellin is the Facebook scene. There are more independents through there than any other city I have even been to!Funny. My buddy goes to that club in Parque Lleras to pick up freelancers all the time. I do not know the name of it.

[Surfer500]

Funny. My buddy goes to that club in Parque Lleras to pick up freelancers all the time. I do not know the name of it.Not to mention the scene in El Centro where 20,000 Pesos is the going rate for a street girl and no more than 10,000 pesos for a short time room. Was there yesterday and pulled one. With an exchange rate of over 3,000 pesos to the USD I spent a whopping $ 10 US. Lots of hidden gems there but also not for everybody.

[Surfer500]

There is no freelance scene in Medellin. Many have tried and failed. IMO, the biggest advantage of Medellin is the Facebook scene. There are more independents through there than any other city I have even been to!Freelancers, shit there's dozens of them walking around Parque Berrio and the Museum where all the statues are.

[KillaCam11]

This was a few weeks ago.

Didn't get a chance to go to any clubs / casas, had plenty of options near Parque Lleras.

First night found a paisa at Parque Lleras, got toda la noche for 400 k brought her back to the hostel, was able to go 3 times. Face 7, body 8, attitude 10. Should have got her to come over all 3 nights.

Second night, I wanted a legit 10 so I hit up Jorge from Colombiapure. Talked him down to 900 k for 7 hours for a chick with bolt ONS and even a plastic ass which I didn't know at the time. When she got there I wasn't really blown away. Not very GFE, she wasn't into it, I cut her loose before the 7 hours. Not Jorge's fault but this one was a dud. I know I overpaid but I was on quest for a legit 10.

Third night, got Maria to come over for 3 hours for 350 k, got her to include BBBJ for the price. She was willing to do everything I wanted, would recommend just not my type.

http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/deliciosa-paula-sanclemente-esta-disponible-para-ti-llamame-3206170093/6932181/

Can't wait to make the permanent move to Medellin.

[Gagoo]

There is no freelance scene in Medellin. Many have tried and failed. IMO, the biggest advantage of Medellin is the Facebook scene. There are more independents through there than any other city I have even been to!I was walking around Parque Lleras two times yesterday. I always have to see the girls at Hooters at least once per trip. At night I seen plenty of women, but they walk around the park in circles or walk around the area. I think you need to be aggressive with them though. I walked by them and they didn't try to start a conversation. But the were more slutty than the average hottie walking around Parque Lleras. I treated a long time lady friend to dinner at Basilica, even though she got pregnant about 6 months ago.

We seen a couple groups of women just walk and walk and walk and you see them many times. I walked by one of the groups earlier but they didn't say anything. But my lady friend came later and scoffed at them. I asked are those hookers, and in her opinion they were. I also seen a damn transgender hanging out at the park. I actually videoed the area with my phone also. Now as far as freelance seen. It is quite a lousy place, unless you would consider the Mayorista Area as freelancers. Or maybe you want to call them street walkers, not freelancers. Then you got all those girls in the San Diego area and Centro area. I don't mess with those girls though.

[Gagoo]

You hit that on the head. It's absolutely astounding. I'd heard so many good things about Medellin and all the Colombian girls from the states I've met have been beautiful that I assumed they'd be running rampant. I've been to the Parque about four nights since arriving in Medellin and there are very few females, period and no attractive ones who aren't working as bar / restaurant staff. There's so many men (thousands) that I can't even give a m / f percentage estimate, it's that far out of whack. However, this is not to say I haven't been having a great time as I met a hot, sweet babe at the go-to gringo place (Prefer not to mention, you all know it) who kept me busy for couple days. Now I need to go out and look for greener pastures. Any suggestions?Earlier this year they made it illegal to drink alcohol in the park. There used to be many people hanging out at night drinking in the park. Now there are lots of police there and you can't drink in the park. Yesterday I seen the cops would let people drink on the sidewalk directly in front of those stores. And cops were standing right there to make sure they didn't leave the area. And yesterday they had signs up in the park that basically said don't play loud music as to disturb others. They also had the park cleaned up very well. It used to need a lot of attention. I was also there in July. This time around in November something new is they even artistically painted the streets that they block-off to the cars. They also did weird huge painting scheme with the sidewalk steps in the park. It's not the same Parque Lleras as before. But there are still working ladies walking around. I will have a look tonight (Friday). Friday is usually super packed in the area. And I think UFC 205 is on Saturday, so Hooters is probably where I will be for that. Look up a Youtube Sexy Women Parque Lleras. You will see people drinking in the park and lots of people. It's not like that anymore.

[Gagoo]

Girls that advertise as "Pre Pagos," want the money before services rendered?

Pargue Lleras sounds like a fun place to hang.

Not mentioned at all hear, maybe forum rules. But I hear you will be approached a lot for 420 / skiing supplies on the street. True?

I usually wear a western sombrero. Do many guys wear cowboy hats in MDE as they do throughout Mex. & Guat? Might leave it at home as I don't want to be the 6'2" we do that sticks out like a sore thumb.

Or could I be noticed in a good way?

Advantages to changing currency $1000. Usd over using ATM daily? I got a Schwab card.

Any guys use Mileroticos to call in girls or get taxi to girls incall?

Hotel Medellin Plaza. Casa Blanca. Mansion all one and the same?

Thanks, I've searched the shit out of this forum and can't find these answers. Couple weeks and I'm there!I just used my Schwab card here in Medellin twice yesterday. The first time I took out 600,000 pesos, the max that ATM let me have. I was charged about $195. I used it again about 2 hours later after dinner, but before going back to my rental place. I was charged $201. They must be pretty active with changing the rates with FX. The $195 for 600,000 pesos is really good. I was in Bogota a few days ago and there is an area of a lot of cambio places next to each other. I went in each of them, and they all had the same rate, so I gave up and exchanged some money for 2,780 pesos per dollar. I couldn't use my Schwab card at the time.

[Kmac22]

There is no freelance scene in Medellin. Many have tried and failed. IMO, the biggest advantage of Medellin is the Facebook scene. There are more independents through there than any other city I have even been to!How do you go about acquiring the girls Facebook info. Do you guys just find one girl and add all of her friends? I's Facebook better than Tinder or Tagged?

I'm preparing for my first trip. Trying to get all the info I can.

[Fun Luvr]

I just used my Schwab card here in Medellin twice yesterday. The first time I took out 600,000 pesos, the max that ATM let me have. I was charged about $195. I used it again about 2 hours later after dinner, but before going back to my rental place. I was charged $201. They must be pretty active with changing the rates with FX. The $195 for 600,000 pesos is really good. I was in Bogota a few days ago and there is an area of a lot of cambio places next to each other. I went in each of them, and they all had the same rate, so I gave up and exchanged some money for 2,780 pesos per dollar. I couldn't use my Schwab card at the time.Here is what I have found. The ATM rate is tied to the previous day's exchange rate. I don't know the time the banks make the changeover, but I am fairly sure it is after 6 pm. I see the date on your post, but I think you did those withdrawals on Wednesday. After the election, the dollar fell to 2954, I think. The next day (Thursday) it was back over 3000, and today it is over 3100. I made two withdrawals Wednesday at Bank of Colombia and received 3069 to $1. I stayed away from the ATM's yesterday, knowing the rate I would receive. I am leaving tomorrow morning, and I have more than enough pesos to get me through tonight and the trip to the airport. But, unless the rate goes up tonight in favor of the dollar, I will probably withdraw more at the airport. I will take my chances that 3100 to the $1 is a very good rate.

[Dickhead]

In my experience with both Schwab and E Trade it is best to avoid making withdrawals from the time the currency market closes on Friday to when it opens on Monday, if possible. But, I don't know why that is. I suspect that the lower trading volume widens the spread.

[JoelGoodSon]

This was a few weeks ago.

Didn't get a chance to go to any clubs / casas, had plenty of options near Parque Lleras.

First night found a paisa at Parque Lleras, got toda la noche for 400 k brought her back to the hostel, was able to go 3 times. Face 7, body 8, attitude 10. Should have got her to come over all 3 nights.

Second night, I wanted a legit 10 so I hit up Jorge from Colombiapure. Talked him down to 900 k for 7 hours for a chick with bolt ONS and even a plastic ass which I didn't know at the time. When she got there I wasn't really blown away. Not very GFE, she wasn't into it, I cut her loose before the 7 hours. Not Jorge's fault but this one was a dud. I know I overpaid but I was on quest for a legit 10.

Third night, got Maria to come over for 3 hours for 350 k, got her to include BBBJ for the price. She was willing to do everything I wanted, would recommend just not my type.

http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/deliciosa-paula-sanclemente-esta-disponible-para-ti-llamame-3206170093/6932181/

Can't wait to make the permanent move to Medellin.Thanks for the up-to-date info. Leaving tonight to spend one week in MDE so this is really helpful and knowing what you paid to give me some frame of reference. Also will need to check out mileroticos. Are most of the girls on their legit -- real pictures, etc?

[StudPlayer]

I'd heard so many good things about Medellin and all the Colombian girls from the states I've met have been beautiful that I assumed they'd be running rampant. I've been to the Parque about four nights since arriving in Medellin and there are very few females, period and no attractive ones who aren't working as bar / restaurant staff. There's so many men (thousands) that I can't even give a m / f percentage estimate, it's that far out of whack. Now I need to go out and look for greener pastures. Any suggestions?Say Sayonara.

[Dcfan77]

Guys why are you paying so much?


Thanks for the up-to-date info. Leaving tonight to spend one week in MDE so this is really helpful and knowing what you paid to give me some frame of reference. Also will need to check out mileroticos. Are most of the girls on their legit -- real pictures, etc?

[Gagoo]

Thanks for the up-to-date info. Leaving tonight to spend one week in MDE so this is really helpful and knowing what you paid to give me some frame of reference. Also will need to check out mileroticos. Are most of the girls on their legit -- real pictures, etc?What you really need to do is RTFF (read the fucking forum) What he did in his report is not what an experienced person here does. Read the pages back until the beginning of this year and learn some more. There is no need to pay that much. When you order something on the internet or phone you have no idea what is going to show up. As far as looks, you can easily find a 9 in the popular places. The strip club called Fase II always has at least a few very hot women. And the price for an hour is less than 200,000. You can see what they look like first.

I think too many beginners here are too afraid to travel away from there hotel or something. I can kind of understand that, but you can surely find someone to show you around if you offer to pay for drinks and the taxi. Too many guys go to places like the Mansion and don't leave the damn place.

[Gagoo]

Guys why are you paying so much?He seems to be afraid to get in a taxi and go somewhere out of his comfort zone. Ordering on the internet of phone isn't the way to do things here. No need to order on the internet when there are supermarkets of ladies here. As far as the over night from a lady met in Parque Lleras for 400 K and 3 fucks that does seem to be fair. And 350 K from an internet girl for 3 hours seems to be about right also. The 900 K is ridiculous. Some basic decent places such as Abydos or Energy will give you 1 hour in a decent room with a good looking girl for 140-150 K. You can pay less for a girl at places downtown such as New Life. But I don't really like that place. A good looking girl from strip clubs Fase II or San Diego cost less than 200 K. Fase II can often times have many 8's, 9's and maybe a 10 or two.

[Gagoo]

First of all, Thai Spa looks to be closed. I went there in July and it was a nice place. Their website is down and I stopped by today and it is closed for sure. The building had a for rent sign on it. The places next to it are houses, so maybe the home owners didn't like the idea of a brothel next to them.

Massage place (brothel) Abydos, Avenida 33 # 64-198. Open Monday through Saturday. Closes about 9 PM. The price charged was 140 K for an hour. Normally you will be shown about 5-8 girls. I was kind of late and was only shown 3 girls. They were all fuckable. I chose a girl I fucked about a year ago. A girl named Julieta. The service at Abydos seems to be CBJ and no kissing as standard. I did have a pretty good time though. If you are there in the evening you will be almost across the street from a strip club called Luna Lanera. You can go have a look in there also. I went in Luna Lanera quite a few times, and honestly I am usually the only gringo there.

Massage Place (brothel) Energy. Carrera 74 # 49-101. I was there yesterday. I was also a little late there. I showed up at 8:30 PM, they close at 9:30 PM. The moma asked me to to pay first, which isn't normal, but it was probably because we were going to finish at closing time. I gave the moma 150 K and never got change back. The price use to be 140 K. Maybe it went up to 150 K. I was shown a very nice choice of women. I was shown about 9 ladies one at a time. As normal I had a hard time remembering the names. I'd fuck at least 75% of them. If you are looking for black girls, they had 2 of them. One was sweet looking and voluptuous. The other one was tall and thin and looked like she came from somewhere else. She wasn't good looking. Looks like she was a Somalian or something. I haven't seen her type in Colombia before. Some girls are small body types and some are the standard Colombian lady body types and a couple with fake body parts. I chose a girl named Vanessa. She looked to be a natural wholesome kind of young lady. She has only been working there for a week, or so she says. She has a nice 100% natural body. She has C or D cup tits also. She didn't even have hair extensions like many ladies.

She was new there and only 22 YO, but she didn't seem to lack any experience though. She gave a short massage which seems to be standard there, then she gave an aggressive CBJ for about 15 minutes nonstop. She puts on a nice show and was friendly. Then she asked me a weird question. She asked me if I wanted penetration. Well, duh! Of course. So she got on top and fucked me pretty good. I didn't see a need to ever change positions. She looks good and her titties were flopping and jiggling around. I love watching natural titties bouncing around when fucking. She had her titties doing circles also. She eventually started giving me some good kissing. Then more fucking, and some kissing and fucking. When I decided I would go ahead and cum I asked her to start kissing me again, then she oddly said kissing for tips. She can speak some English words. She was already kissing before, why ask me for tips for kissing when I was about to cum? Anyways, she was friendly. She asked me if I wanted some more massage. I said OK. Then she heard a song she likes and started doing a sexy dance show, but no massage. I wouldn't mind seeing her again, but I'd ask for a bare BJ and I would try some more positions with her. I got her number just in case. She is another one of those Bello girls. I've had some girls in Energy give BBBJ. But as the years go on, it seems to be more and more usage of condoms for blow jobs.

[Surf Looker]

How do you go about acquiring the girls Facebook info. Do you guys just find one girl and add all of her friends? I's Facebook better than Tinder or Tagged?

I'm preparing for my first trip. Trying to get all the info I can.Colombian girls are into social media, facebook, instagram. Tons of hot girls, but hard to get hold off. You can add them all on facebook, instagram, go thru their friendslist, likes.

For the right price, you can get indy. Random chicks, theres so many on fb.

https://www.facebook.com/Lina.herrera.Palacio

https://www.facebook.com/linamarcela.herrerapalacio.5

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008644806974

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008644806974

https://www.facebook.com/mariela.pineda.1422?ref=br_rs

https://www.facebook.com/tania.tyemoon

https://www.facebook.com/mariana.rios.7758235

https://www.facebook.com/danielaandrea.gumanalzate?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/yohana.guzman.3914?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008141322018

https://www.facebook.com/vanessa.velasquez.7370

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1557133992

https://www.facebook.com/valentina.acostap

https://www.facebook.com/cherexita?ref=br_rs

https://www.facebook.com/laura.paladines.75?ref=br_rs

https://www.facebook.com/tania.marin.792

https://www.facebook.com/cris.londono.1

https://www.facebook.com/viviana.balvin.7

https://www.facebook.com/lina.betancur.16

https://www.facebook.com/luna.beta.1

https://www.facebook.com/marchelita.grajales

https://www.facebook.com/vane.vargas.16

https://www.facebook.com/nicolemodel2

Whatsapp chicks from miloerotica.

[Kmac22]

Colombian girls are into social media, facebook, instagram. Tons of hot girls, but hard to get hold off. You can add them all on facebook, instagram, go thru their friendslist, likes.

For the right price, you can get indy. Random chicks, theres so many on fb.

https://www.facebook.com/Lina.herrera.Palacio

https://www.facebook.com/linamarcela.herrerapalacio.5

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008644806974...Wow, thanks. I'm assuming most of these girls are up for P4P, the ones with the sexually suggestive pictures are obvious but I'm not always sure with social media especially Instagram.

[Gagoo]

Wow, thanks. I'm assuming most of these girls are up for P4P, the ones with the sexually suggestive pictures are obvious but I'm not always sure with social media especially Instagram.These seem like typical Social Media hotties that have no interest in "Hooking Up". I did like one of the profiles though, and I tried to add her as a friend, but she has too many friend requests. Most of these appear to not be working ladies. You can see women like this in the US with many followers and the maximum number of friends, and they don't care to reply or acknowledge you. Just because the 'internet" girls are not in the US doesn't mean they are hookers. But it wouldn't hurt to have a try. I've made Facebook friends with dozens of hookers that I fucked. And they are actually more conservative and normal on their Facebook accounts. I don't think they want their family and friends to see that crap. Some do have multiple accounts, but they still don't get too sexy in their pics.

Now if you were in Brazil, a "Working Lady's" Facebook page would often times add a "GP" in their Facebook name. So a Facebook name in Brazil would be something like "Gabriela Silva GP".

[CarneNorte]

Late report, got swamped with work when I came back. First time to MDE, 2 non speaking Asian dudes with google translate ready to go, RTFF, amazing map. Shout out to the one that made the list.

Day 1:

Buddy and I got an apartment near Parque Lleras, quite convenient but expensive, near an exito. No probs getting thru immigration got picked up by our driver. Got to our apartment around 11 pm. Met up with a gringo and some dude on fb that msg me at Parque lleras. Saw "independents" walking around. We decided to head up to La Isla. 5 peeps in a yellow taxi going up a hill, fun times. Got sat near the stage, had to purchase a bottle, forgot the name but it was nasty. Lots of hotties around but I did not pull. Buddy pulled a nice skinny with a cute butt, IRC her name was Jenny. Talks perfect english. Damage was 350 k, service was good. I got her whatsapp #. Went back to the apartment around 3 am.

Day 2:

Met up with a local tour guide he's a cool dude. We ate at a street corner, had that cheese on a toasted flat bread with mango juice. Tour guide will ask what you do, to get a better understanding of what you want to do and tailor out the day. Cool dude in my book. Afterwards we went up the mountain to run off it (skygliding). It was a very good exp, I would do it again. Afterwards we went to Energy. I believe it was around 1 pm there were 10 girls that were wearing costumes. I picked this angel, forget her name. Performance was amazing, massage was OK. I like the set-up they have and you can pay with a CC LOL. Went back to the apartment to freshen up and later on we went to dinner at san carbon. Afterwards we went to a seedy little strip club called "Apotcosis?" Something like that. Reminded me of a strip club in Mindanao, very seedy LOL. I pulled this tall one with curly hair, name escapes me. Damage was 200 k. Rooms were small, red paint, small ass shower, rock hard bed. Perfect. We danced to the reggaeton music then proceeded to do the nasty. Performance was 6/10, attitude was 8/10. My buddy pulled 2. He didn't like the first one, complained and got a discount for the 2nd one LOL. Back to the apartment.

Day 3:

Tour guide picked us up a little later than usual, long night LOL. We ate at El Rancherito for bfast. Loved the hot cocoa with leche, lactose intolerant but yolo. Did the tourist thing again and went to metrocables. Amazing city, we were talking on how our native country (PI) missed its chance to be like this. Afterwards we went to a diff casa, forgot the name sorry. Only 3 girls working. We didn't care, I pulled this one with fake everything. Talks ok english, from Venezuela. Performance 6/10, attitude 8/10. My buddy had performance issue to tour guide took us to get some Cialis. Decided we need to get some cohibas (most I've ever spent on this trip). We went to this restaurant to smoke and talk about life. Went back to Energy and only 4 girls there. Picked a curvier girl and got the "steam room" Holy hell shit was hot, shower was complicated, mirror on top of the bed full of water / steam. Performance 8/10 attitude 8/10, I couldn't shoot the gun, excuses were tired, dehydrated, getting old. Buddy pulled a short one with abs and does squats, he said perfect and got her WhatsApp, name is Camilla. Afterwards we went to the apartment to freshen up and walked to Parque Lleras. Amazed at the Halloween scene, we found a good place to sit and people watch.

Day 4:

Sunday, day of rest LOL. Ate at a small restaurant near the apartment and talked about how lucky we are in this trip. Friend whatsapp the girl Camilla to come over the apartment, I was kinda paranoid about bringing girls over, she met us at a restaurant near our place. She text her friend to come, so I wouldn't be alone. Three of us were in the apartment, she had a very good attitude, google translate mvp. Of course we took precautions, hide everything and watch our drinks. We only had water and plantain chips LOL. Then her friend arrived. Hooly shitt. Short about 5' skinny but with curves, name is Isabella. We hit it off, went to our separate rooms, we did it in the shower, bed, couch, walls LOL. Both stayed for 3-4 hrs, 300 k + taxi. We had grins on our faces, didn't get drugged up, no lame performances. So prior to coming to MDE I was using Seeking Arrangement. Was talking to this girl to meet me up when I was in MDE. Sent her a text to meet up at a restaurant. Buddy and I came, drank beer or two and talking on what's happening with our lives so far, we reached to an agreement that we are getting to be old dirty bastards then came my girl, holy shit she was hot. About 5'7 tight jeans and nice blouse? We hugged and order some food. She's a great talker, english, we stayed there for an hour or two just talking. Then she showed me her google translate (mvp) on what I wanted to do next. I said for a couple of hours, she quoted me 500 k, I'm like hmms. Little bro was like, "dude I want that" so I said sure, where?! Ended up in this IBIS love motel. Shit is amazing, she undressed and start dancing on the pole. Perfect body, nicely done man made boobs, girl squats and it shows. We stayed for 4 hours, more than it was agreed, but she had fun and price stayed the same. So Seeking Arrangement worked, tinder is shit in my opinion. Buddy called Camilla while I was with SA girl for overnight. I came home around 5 ish. Gringos still smoking outside hostel.

Day 5:

Last day. 2 hrs or so sleep, Buddy hailed a taxi for his overnight girl. Tourist stuff continued. Tour guide took us to Guatape, 740 steps, not so bad, just rest. Had a couple beers and photos for FB purposes. Went to this town with the white church, did some shopping. Lots of tourist, but good exp. We stopped by a restaurant, had a whole red snapper. We went down to mountain to Leutron, it was night time on Halloween day. Place itself was great, only 4 girls, I picked this tall dark one with see cups and curly hair. We proceeded to this room, and it was ehhhhhh just like the service. Performance was the worst I've gotten, but she did give me a good massage. Little bro was very disappointed and held off. After the hour met up with my friend and he said worst service by far. Back to the apartment, said goodby to our tour guide, awesome dude. Friend was leaving at 2 am and I was leaving at 6 am. We got our girls to come over. Friend left first, girl went with him to the airport, LOL uh oh. Told him we coming back. Had an excellent, multiple sessions with Isabella, little bro thanks cialis. At 530 am walked her to looked for a taxi, lots of backpackers still about smoking and looking at us kissing and groping. 6 am, driver pulled up and off to the airport. After immigration, cop asked me where I stayed, for what, how many days, how many bags I had, same thing before I went in the airplane. Then off I went.

Notes:

Yes I made a fb account, didn't pull from them. Used tinder, no me gusta. Used seeking arrangement, worked out very well, possible luck. Tour guide was Willi, awesome dude, 10/10. Not a lot of casas visited, same with strip clubs, and SW scene not seen. Will I go back? In a heartbeat. Spanish needed? Maybe. Any questions, hit me up.

[Gagoo]

Today is yet another Holiday. Independence of Cartagena. A Energy girl says her work is closed. Can other confirm other working venues will be closed? Looks like I might have to go through my old list. But three of them are pregnant now and others are out of the area!

[TrueScotsMan]

Late report, got swamped with work when I came back. First time to MDE, 2 non speaking Asian dudes with google translate ready to go, RTFF, amazing map. Shout out to the one that made the list.

Day 1:

Buddy and I got an apartment near Parque Lleras, quite convenient but expensive, near an exito. No probs getting thru immigration got picked up by our driver. Got to our apartment around 11 pm. Met up with a gringo and some dude on fb that msg me at Parque lleras. Saw "independents" walking around. We decided to head up to La Isla. 5 peeps in a yellow taxi going up a hill, fun times. Got sat near the stage, had to purchase a bottle, forgot the name but it was nasty. Lots of hotties around but I did not pull. Buddy pulled a nice skinny with a cute butt, IRC her name was Jenny. Talks perfect english. Damage was 350 k, service was good. I got her whatsapp #. Went back to the apartment around 3 am....Great report, I go tomorrow fly in from London. My first time in Colombia. I should try SA again.

Thanks.

[Hioctane]

Late report, got swamped with work when I came back. First time to MDE, 2 non speaking Asian dudes with google translate ready to go, RTFF, amazing map. Shout out to the one that made the list.

Day 1:

Buddy and I got an apartment near Parque Lleras, quite convenient but expensive, near an exito. No probs getting thru immigration got picked up by our driver. Got to our apartment around 11 pm. Met up with a gringo and some dude on fb that msg me at Parque lleras. Saw "independents" walking around. We decided to head up to La Isla. 5 peeps in a yellow taxi going up a hill, fun times. Got sat near the stage, had to purchase a bottle, forgot the name but it was nasty. Lots of hotties around but I did not pull. Buddy pulled a nice skinny with a cute butt, IRC her name was Jenny. Talks perfect english. Damage was 350 k, service was good. I got her whatsapp #. Went back to the apartment around 3 am...Glad you had fun!

A couple of things about prices. You got ripped off at Opotiosis. You shouldn't be paying girls more than 60-70 k at that shithole! For independents, you should be paying 150 k + taxi or 200 k including taxi for ST. If they complain about more than one hour, tack on another 50 k. Anyways, take it as the cost of learning FB is the best though. It is a must do next time.

[Chesscat]

Pregnant is cool!


Today is yet another Holiday. Independence of Cartagena. A Energy girl says her work is closed. Can other confirm other working venues will be closed? Looks like I might have to go through my old list. But three of them are pregnant now and others are out of the area!

[ThadMax]

Headed back to Medellin for my 2nd trip and can't wait! Arriving this Wed. And staying through Saturday. Will hit the usual spots (La Isla, Fase, Energy) but also wondering if there are any new or trending spots to hit? Also. Would be very much open to meeting up if anyone else is in the area!

[Hioctane]

Colombian girls are into social media, facebook, instagram. Tons of hot girls, but hard to get hold off. You can add them all on facebook, instagram, go thru their friendslist, likes.

For the right price, you can get indy. Random chicks, there's so many on fb.

https://www.facebook.com/Lina.herrera.Palacio

https://www.facebook.com/linamarcela.herrerapalacio.5

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008644806974

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008644806974

https://www.facebook.com/mariela.pineda.1422?ref=br_rs

https://www.facebook.com/tania.tyemoon

https://www.facebook.com/mariana.rios.7758235

https://www.facebook.com/danielaandrea.gumanalzate?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/yohana.guzman.3914?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008141322018

https://www.facebook.com/vanessa.velasquez.7370.Thanks! Some I have on my friends list. Some I don't. Are all those confirmed working?

[James Dandy]

Gringos should pay attention to the new fees credit cards are being charged from the biggest processor in Colombia, CrediBanco. On two big purchases today (different businesses) they tried to charge 3. 5% transaction fee each time, without asking if I'd like to proceed like an ATM would. Only the grocery stores in my daily activities living here still do not charge this fee, but restaurants, businesses, etc have changed over recently. It doesn't matter if you opt to pay in pesos or dollars, which they do ask your choice, they take the money automatically.

It is now far better to use your ATM card to withdraw cash and pay that way. Credit cards should not be used unless you like getting clipped. This fee is obviously aimed at gringos as its justified as a currency "commission" so wouldn't affect a colombian credit card from colombian bank. I used to use credit cards for everything here but have slowly been forced to use them less and less, until today where there are now too few places to make it worth carrying around. On one large purchase I told the business to reverse the charge which they did, but remember this is South America and it will be a huge hassle dragging on for a month or two to ever see the money credited to my account. Best not to rely on customer service from the bank or the business.

Bringing foreign curreency and exchanging at a cambio (exchange house) is still the worst option as you get robbed for close to 10%, but the once great option of credit cards is no longer viable as you get smoked for the 3. 5% here in Colombia plus whatever your bank might charge at home. That leaves the ATM to get cash, which is the far superior choice. They offer the best exchange rates, and if you have a card from one of the banks mentioned many times before in this thread, there are no fees to take money out. If you see CrediBanco down the side of the hand held processing machine (purple sides, and front sometimes), put your card back in your pocket!

[Chesscat]

I sent some money via Moneygram to a friend of mine in Bogota. They gave me 29.5 and change, where as the rate is 3,100 and change. So they make their close to 10% of the rate. Much better if possible to deposit $$ in bank account.

FWIW.

[YippieKayay]

Gringos should pay attention to the new fees credit cards are being charged from the biggest processor in Colombia, CrediBanco. Do the CC machines have a CrediBanco logo on them? I take it you discovered this after the fact? I'm heading to Medellin tomorrow with a few thousand in cash, an ATM card, and my credit cards. I could use the ATM but the limits suck.



Bringing foreign curreency and exchanging at a cambio (exchange house) is still the worst option as you get robbed for close to 10%Fuck. I thought a cambio would be the best option. I'll see what the cambio in Bogota airport gives. 10% is too much even at the pesos rate today.

EDIT:

Here is the mastercard currency converter: https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/consumers/get-support/convert-currency.html

Even if you crank up the "bank fee" to 6.5 you still end up with 1 USD = 2920.00 COP. (You need to put USD on the right side)

Here is unicambios website: http://www.unicambios.com.co/ And it shows them buying at 2.830

The difference is pretty small so I figure the payment processor is getting away with this because when people sit down and work it out the cambios aren't that much different.

[Mr Enternational]

I sent some money via Moneygram to a friend of mine in Bogota. They gave me 29.5 and change, where as the rate is 3,100 and change. So they make their close to 10% of the rate. Much better if possible to deposit $$ in bank account.

FWIW.Is there an option to send USD instead of converting over to COP? I know on the Western Union website for some countries it is. You may want to check that out. Just let your friend collect the money in USD and change it over themselves.

[James Dandy]

Do the CC machines have a CrediBanco logo on them? I take it you discovered this after the fact? I'm heading to Medellin tomorrow with a few thousand in cash, an ATM card, and my credit cards. I could use the ATM but the limits suck.

Fuck. I thought a cambio would be the best option. I'll see what the cambio in Bogota airport gives. 10% is too much even at the pesos rate today.Yes, the hand held card processing machines do have Credibanco on the side of them, and sometimes on the front or a purple sticker depending on how old they are. The newest ones are made of purple plastic. Don't count on the person using the machine to know anything of the charges, most have zero concept of credit cards to begin with so its up to you. If you see anything purple, its Credibanco and most processing is done by them in the country so odds are you will see them everywhere.

Other than a few hundred bucks in US dollars to cash to pesos when first land or an emergency, don't bring the cash bc you will regret the rates you receive. The credit limits on ATM cards are too low for some people, but you can use Citibank ATMs as they have the highest withdrawal amounts per transaction at 800,000 vs the 600,000 for BancoColombia. Also, the ATMs are safe in all the big malls.

Forgot to mention that the CrediBanco card processing machine also tried to give me a crap rate at 2980 pesos to the buck vs. The 3097 I received immediately after at the ATM when I cancelled the credit card purchase. Forex rates on my computer at home were trading at 3124, so not terrible at the ATM at all as usual. However, between the 3.5% charge and the lower exchange rate the credit card would cost over 6% to use vs, no fees for ATM card. I've sworn off credit cards now, after using them for everything here the past two years.

Hope it helps, enjoy your visit.

[Questner]

Withdraw COP at ATM with your debit card. Exchange COP to USD at a cambio. Bring back the bought USD cash home and deposit. Keep receipts and declare if above the threshold. Voila. Rinse and repeat. Holding cash is the risk against the profit on the exchanges. Tell me if I were wrong.

[Surf Looker]

Yo Are these fees on top of the foreign transaction.

Fees? Many cards have No foreign transactions.

Fees if you pay annual fees.


Yes, the hand held card processing machines do have Credibanco on the side of them, and sometimes on the front or a purple sticker depending on how old they are. The newest ones are made of purple plastic. Don't count on the person using the machine to know anything of the charges, most have zero concept of credit cards to begin with so its up to you. If you see anything purple, its Credibanco and most processing is done by them in the country so odds are you will see them everywhere.

Other than a few hundred bucks in US dollars to cash to pesos when first land or an emergency, don't bring the cash bc you will regret the rates you receive. The credit limits on ATM cards are too low for some people, but you can use Citibank ATMs as they have the highest withdrawal amounts per transaction at 800,000 vs the 600,000 for BancoColombia. Also, the ATMs are safe in all the big malls.

Forgot to mention that the CrediBanco card processing machine also tried to give me a crap rate at 2980 pesos to the buck vs. The 3097 I received immediately after at the ATM when I cancelled the credit card purchase. Forex rates on my computer at home were trading at 3124, so not terrible at the ATM at all as usual. However, between the 3.5% charge and the lower exchange rate the credit card would cost over 6% to use vs, no fees for ATM card. I've sworn off credit cards now, after using them for everything here the past two years.

Hope it helps, enjoy your visit.

[Fun Luvr]

EDIT:

Here is the mastercard currency converter: https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/consumers/get-support/convert-currency.html

Even if you crank up the "bank fee" to 6.5 you still end up with 1 USD = 2920.00 COP. (You need to put USD on the right side)

Here is unicambios website: http://www.unicambios.com.co/ And it shows them buying at 2.830

The difference is pretty small so I figure the payment processor is getting away with this because when people sit down and work it out the cambios aren't that much different.I was in Medellin for 12 days, left last Saturday. The average rate I received from ATM's during my stay was 3043. The day I left, I received 3098. That is getting pretty close to 10% difference between cambios and ATM's. I noticed that Bank of Bogota is now charging a fee for using their ATM's. Even though Schwab will reimburse the fees, I didn't use Bank of Bogota. Bank of Colombia and Davivienda do not charge ATM fees.

[Hioctane]

Forgot to mention that the CrediBanco card processing machine also tried to give me a crap rate at 2980 pesos to the buck vs. The 3097 I received immediately after at the ATM when I cancelled the credit card purchase. Forex rates on my computer at home were trading at 3124, so not terrible at the ATM at all as usual. However, between the 3.5% charge and the lower exchange rate the credit card would cost over 6% to use vs, no fees for ATM card. I've sworn off credit cards now, after using them for everything here the past two years.This is nothing new. Most cards charge around a 3% foreign transaction fee. If you opt to pay in dollars over the local currency, there is also a conversion fee (at a crappy rate) by the merchant and if you choose no, your card will convert it for you (usually at a better rate). So yes, it can get to around 6%. Bottom line, use a fee free card like a Schwab card.

[World Travel 69]

Never use the Cambio place at any Airport.

ATMs are Okay.


Do the CC machines have a CrediBanco logo on them? I take it you discovered this after the fact? I'm heading to Medellin tomorrow with a few thousand in cash, an ATM card, and my credit cards. I could use the ATM but the limits suck.

Fuck. I thought a cambio would be the best option. I'll see what the cambio in Bogota airport gives. 10% is too much even at the pesos rate today.

EDIT:

Here is the mastercard currency converter: https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/consumers/get-support/convert-currency.html

Even if you crank up the "bank fee" to 6.5 you still end up with 1 USD = 2920.00 COP. (You need to put USD on the right side)

Here is unicambios website: http://www.unicambios.com.co/ And it shows them buying at 2.830

The difference is pretty small so I figure the payment processor is getting away with this because when people sit down and work it out the cambios aren't that much different.

[Zorro]

How easy is it to get these girls through social media I. E. Facebook Instagram. I added a few through Instagram but what usual rate for these girls. I know through the forum what one offers won't change the going rate. Just some thoughts to help a fellow monger out.

Thanks.

[Gagoo]

Pregnant is cool!Well, I should have wondered something was up. He boobs wear a little bigger and looked different. But the rest of her body was the same. My 6 month pregnant friend wanted to do something, but I kindly turned her down.

Also, the places like Abydos and Energy were closed on 13 November.

I tried the Milerotecos for my frist time in Colombia, and a good looking girl that seemed to be real was 130 K if you go to her, including just about everything including anal if you like, o 30 K extra for BBBJ.

I found a young Venezuelan girl and it was 150 K if you go to her, or 180 K plus taxi if she delivers. The young Venezuelan girl was a winner for sure. She was reperating the stories of not having food in Venezuela, so I took her out to dinner. I'm not giving her # out. I'm not in Colombia anymore and she gave me a free sexy video call today.

[ThadMax]

Arrived earlier today and am staying at an airbnb at Energy Living. Very nice building w / great rooftop pool / gym view of the city. Was a bit tired from a long day of travel so utilized an escort service. Was fairly pricey (280,000) but the model was exceptionally beautiful and performance was great. Relaxed. And then went to Fase II. Was pleased to see some of the beautiful women that I saw on my last trip to Medellin in December 2015. There were more women in the lineup than I remember. But more so a quantity game than quality. Probably 30-40 women total; a couple 9's, several 8's. Not 10's on this night but if there are 8's and 9's by Colombia standards you're in business. Had a session w / a very curvy and sexy mademoiselle and calling it a night.

I keep hearing about Leutron Club being a great place to go. I checked out Energy on my last trip and was impressed. Will be trying to hit up New Life and Leutron during the day time hours on this trip. Anyone been to Leutron? That's a name that I don't recall reading on this forum even though I've delved deep into the forum.

I'll be hitting up La Isla as well tomorrow and perhaps Ejecutivo and / or San Diego. If anyone is in for a monger frenzy (LOL) let me know. Would be nice to grab dinner / drink as well w / some comrades.

[Mr Enternational]

Never use the Cambio place at any Airport.

ATMs are Okay.Or better yet, know your destination. Airport exchanges in Thailand and Philippines are great. In Thailand the local ATM will charge you $7 on top of your bank's fees. Definitely do not use an airport exchange in your home country though. I can not believe those things still exist as big of a rip off as they are.

[Fun Luvr]

I keep hearing about Leutron Club being a great place to go. I checked out Energy on my last trip and was impressed. Will be trying to hit up New Life and Leutron during the day time hours on this trip. Anyone been to Leutron? That's a name that I don't recall reading on this forum even though I've delved deep into the forum.The spelling is Loutron. You can do a search and find a little information. Most of which is not complimentary.

[ThadMax]

The spelling is Loutron. You can do a search and find a little information. Most of which is not complimentary.Thanks for the correction. I'll take a look. Seems like New Life and Energy are the most highly regarded here. I had a great experience at Energy. Perhaps I'll try New Life instead of Loutron.

[MedellinGringo]

Arrived earlier today and am staying at an airbnb at Energy Living. Very nice building w / great rooftop pool / gym view of the city. Was a bit tired from a long day of travel so utilized an escort service. Was fairly pricey (280,000) but the model was exceptionally beautiful and performance was great. Relaxed. And then went to Fase II. Was pleased to see some of the beautiful women that I saw on my last trip to Medellin in December 2015. There were more women in the lineup than I remember. But more so a quantity game than quality. Probably 30-40 women total; a couple 9's, several 8's. Not 10's on this night but if there are 8's and 9's by Colombia standards you're in business. Had a session w / a very curvy and sexy mademoiselle and calling it a night.

I keep hearing about Leutron Club being a great place to go. I checked out Energy on my last trip and was impressed. Will be trying to hit up New Life and Leutron during the day time hours on this trip. Anyone been to Leutron? That's a name that I don't recall reading on this forum even though I've delved deep into the forum.

I'll be hitting up La Isla as well tomorrow and perhaps Ejecutivo and / or San Diego. If anyone is in for a monger frenzy (LOL) let me know. Would be nice to grab dinner / drink as well w / some comrades.Seems like you have a good grasp on the price to beauty ratio.

So do you have a link to the exceptionally beautiful model that gave excellent service for 280,000 cop.

[Thedman]

Just left Medellin.

I stayed a week there, two days at the Mansion, then 5 more as part of a bachelor party. Before getting into the report I want to thank all the guys here who've contributed to this thread (and the Casa Blanca thread). *I RTFF going back a good 60+ pages. *There is great info on this forum that was invaluable for me. *The trip overall was amazing.

Some background info. *This was my first time to MDE and Colombia. *My mongering experience has been a bit limited. A 4 day trip to Angeles City in the P. I. , and two, one-day trips to Tijuana. My Spanish is very limited to non-existent.

Day 1:

My first night was a bust. This was due to getting in late (after 10 pm at airport) than deciding to go to Parque Llares to meet up with two guys from the bachelor party who also came in 2 days early. *We hadn't seen each other in a few years so there was a lot of catching up. *We hung out at the rooftop bar at the top of Hotel Charlee. *Really good live music and people watching but I was so exhausted it was probably a good thing I didn't try to have a session. Rolled back to the Mansion well after 3 am and passed out.

Day 2:.

Staying at the Mansion is a good place to dip one's toes into the water (especially if you're new to MDE). *It is a really unique setup, and I found every guy I met there to be both friendly but also willing to offer advice to get newbies pointed in the right direction.

I had met on Facebook a number of girls and planned to meet a couple at the Mansion. *(By the way the girls on FB know of the Mansion and some will say no-way, "I don't go there! Others though are perfectly fine.) *The first girl, Christina Perez Salazar, and I had good chats and I confirmed with her the day before. *She asked if I'd be interest if she brought her cousin and I said "SI! *My only problem was she had to slide our time from 12 to 2 pm. *This was only a 'problem' as I had a 4 pm lined up as well and she was not able to move her time.

As a pair, they were awesome. I've had threesome's in the past but it was always very mechanical and what I'd call "doing the switching". *You're there with 2 girls, but it's switching back and forth, constantly swapping condoms, with neither of them interested in the other. *Instead these two were very into each other. As if they were natural lesbians. *I said at one point I needed a small break and asked them to go at it with each other and they went to town. *I pantomimed scissors on both my hands interlocking and they understood. *The cousin (and I forget her name) got on top of Christina and they started slamming their pussies together. *I finished doing the cousin while she was eating out Christina with gusto. *It was a great start to my first time fucking in Medellin. I gave them each 150 k each and 20 k for a cab. (this by the way was what I paid for all the girls my whole trip, save the last one on day 7, but that was a special case.).

Showered and went to hang out downstairs before my 4 pm. *The guys at the Mansion had arranged for a sex show, which I was invited to attend in one of the rooms. *A bit surreal, but hey when in Medellin go with the flow. *An incredibly hot chica was on the bed laying back naked with about 8 guys in the room (all clothed). *One guy was using a pink rabbit vibrator on her and just going to town. *As I was new I was invited to lie next to her and play / suck on her tits. And it was then I saw the 5 or 6 studs she had spaced across her tongue. It made we want to do a session with her later to see how those things would feel in a BJ. *I was then asked to take over on dildo duties since it was my first time seeing a show. *A short while into my time, I was handed an even larger one and she got into doggy and I went at it again. *Another guy had pulled out a mini vibrator and was buzzing her clit while I plunged until she climaxed. (either she did or she was an Oscar caliber actor.) *It was near time for my 4 pm so I had to leave and didn't get a chance to see the additional girls who were part of "The Show."

Side note: As I mentioned the "show" was a bit surreal, but I think it has it's place. *For the chica doing the show there is a form of advertising to get herself on the radar of the guys. *For the guys there's also some benefit to seeing how she is before pulling the trigger for a full session.

The 4 pm appointment was Andrea Montoya, a super cute chica I had found and chatted with on FB. She arrived about 40 minutes late, but kept me updated via Whatsapp. *Our session was good and she gave a great BBBJ. *I like to finish doggie and the view from her behind was incredible enough to rally and finish despite being drained already.

Side note: Facebook is the starting point for most of the girls, but I think when you say to them, hey here's my WhatsApp # it elevates you above all the other guys just playing around without being serious. I observed a big difference for the positive in responses and getting commitments to meet when we moved from FB Chats to WhatsApp. Maybe it's not true, but seemed to be for me at least.

That evening the bachelor (who I also had stay at the Mansion) and I went out to dinner with a 3rd friend and came back late (I think it was almost midnight). *Alexa, the front desk lady, allowed us to bring our friend into the bar as a 'guest' since all rooms are booked up (with a 50 k fee). *We hung out in the bar for awhile, mostly on the outside patio. *There didn't seem like a lot of action going on so they arranged a little pole-dancing competition. My friend the bachelor found a tall skinny girl with a lot of tats (his turn on) and took her up. I went upstairs with the winner of the contest. It was just after 1 am when we went up. *I really wish I could have recalled her name. *She was a bit darker than average, natural be cups, about 5'2 and looked more Mexican than anything else (again 150 k plus cab).

Side note: the front desk at the Mansion sells a handful of different pills that guys want / need. Viagra's, Cialis, some antibiotics, Ambien, etc. I'm kicking myself for not bring the listing with me so I could share with you guys the exact pricing. *The one thing I bought if it helps was the ambien - 10 pills for $7 (US). *Never used them before, but they worked like a charm. *Need to get more for future adventures.

More of the report to come soon.

[Thedman]

Apologies guys on the report below. I previewed the post before posting, but somehow a " was injected in front of every sentence.

Will make sure the rest of the trip report doesn't have those.

[Thedman]

Day 3:

Up in time for breakfast (one of the nice benefits of being at the Mansion. The cook will make you made to order food and catching up with the guys at the outside patio is nice as well.).

Since this was the start of the official bachelor party we had to checkout of the Mansion a few hours before the check-in to the private apartment. This created a time gap problem, but Alexa was nice enough to allow us to store our luggage in their office until later that day.

We went out towards downtown, just past the central airport to a market called Minorista. The bachelor had seen an episode of Anthony Bourdain where he had gone to this food market (vegetables, meat, flowers, etc) that happened to have an off the chart restaurant in the basement. It was called Restaurante Aqui Paro Lucho and wow. Had the best Paella and BBQ ribs. Amazing food, and cheap.

The night of day 3 was a penthouse party set up by the company we hired to host the bachelor party. Provided in the party was one model / hostess for each guy, a private chef that cooked up an amazing spread, music and a metric shit-ton of booze.

Prior to the girls arriving our host let us know the parameters for the night with them. In his words 'provided in your package is one Smash-Credit with each girl, and they're paid for already and they'll be there for 3 hours. " Half the group had flown in from Paris, the other half around the USA. The European guys had a quizzical look on their face, and one finally said "can you explain this term, 'Smash'. Damn it was funny. Our host was uh, really you need me to explain this? - and so he goes. Smash - you know uh, Coitus! One guy who was married and didn't want to play asked if he could donate his Smash credit to the groom so the groom could have a threesome. Sure!

After the food and drinks are flowing we're all dancing but I see nobody's really hooking up, so I decide to break the ice. Grabbed an amazing Paisa specimen, named Tatiana. Very fair skin and long black hair. *Her breasts were enhanced to a wonderful the cup and just perfect. We head up the stairs to the master bedroom where I was staying and just under an hour later we come down the stairs to the most embarrassing site ever. There are four guys out on the balcony in a circle talking and four super hot chicas in the living room chatting as well and mostly focusing on their phones. It was like the most awkward first time middle school dance. I was sure my taking the lead would get others going too. Unfortunately not to be. I'll cut it short and just say we blew 3 Smash credits, but note not 4 of them, as one final guy on the trip arrived from the airport in the middle of the 'middle school dance' moments. *I went over to him, explained what was going on and he knew what needed to be done. *Dropped his stuff in his tiny room (that what you get when your last to arrive) and he grabbed one of the girls and started Smash time. From in the door to Smashing in under eight minutes!

Host asks me (as I was the organizer of the party) "What's wrong with your guys?" It's rather embarrassing. But oh well, the guys still seemed to have fun as they had gotten other substance beyond just the alcohol.

Day 4:

As this is a bachelor party and many of the guys have others back home to account for we did fill the daytime hours with interesting activities. *This day started, as did the rest, with our private chef cooking us a full breakfast. Which was one of my favorite things of the trip. *Waking up hung-over, but having someone hand you a fresh cup of hot coffee, some OJ and then a great plate of food is a real treat.

After breakfast we piled into our provided Van with driver and headed out towards the Intl airport to go on a 4 hour ATV tour. Many of the guys had never ridden one before and we had a blast. In a serendipitous moment, as we drove the trails and jungle near the airport property we feel and hear all this rumbling, and 8 Colombian Army Blackhawks descend from the clouds and land just about on top of us. *Our tour guide takes us around a bend and we have a full on view of the whole airport just about 10 yards away from the fence. *Well it was some sort of military exercise and we get to watch first a bunch of Dassult fighters do fly-bys and evasive maneuvers. Firing out flares. Next up were the *turbo-prop trainers doing blue-angel like maneuvers. *It was all totally unexpected but totally cool. *About 3/4 through the tour we rolled up on a lunch place with it's own private lake. *Whole place sat on about 2 football fields worth of land. *They grow private trout in the lake. We each had a beer (only one allowed by the tour guide) and fried trout, flattened plantains, rice, etc, plus platters of grilled chorizo sausages.

I had arranged for massages for all the guys when we got back to the penthouse. Non-sexual ones. A service sent over professional masseuses, they set up on the balcony overlooking Medellin from way atop Poblado and each guy got his muscles worked over well. *It was a good treat after four hours on the ATV's and every single guy was just ear to ear in grins.

We go out to dinner that night at a really nice restaurant in Poblado called Carmen's. Some really good food, and of course lots of drinks. On the itinerary that night was a plan to go hit a Casa or two, but sadly the guys wanted to go to Parque Lleras and crawl the bars (with the off chance of hitting some non-pro talent). *I was at this point having to apologize to our host for being the most vanilla group of guys ever to come to Medellin. *The host was willing to import more talent, but nobody's having any of it. The guys wanted to bar hop to try and score some girls.

We get to closing time at the bars and I'm ready to call it a night, but the guys talk to a bartender who tell them about some illegal underground bars that stay open till 5 am. I decide I'm willing to do some crazy stuff in Medellin, but I drew the line at searching out underground bars past 3 am. Even our host is saying this is crazy, but the guys were adamant. So we part ways, I head back and they go searching.

I was in bed by 3:30 (and needed the rest as I had arranged a morning appointment with Mara Diaz) for 9 am. From what I learned later they quickly gave up the hunt for the bar and taxi'd back to the house.

Day 5:

By this day a few of the guys had to leave and it left three of us. One a very experienced monger, myself and the groom.

I had prebooked a morning appointment with Mara Diaz from FB. She's 24 and has two kids. Her stand out feature is that she speaks decent English. She was the only chica of the whole trip who did all our chats in English. It was so much better than having to do the translator app back and forth like all the others. Not only did she speak English, I think she may be the one and only punctual chica in Medellin. She managed to arrive 10 minutes early which caught me off guard as I was still in the shower when she arrived at the apartment.

Our session was good, and I really like her natural be cups and I saw a barely visible C-section scar. Her pussy was the absolute tightest of all the girls on the trip. (Preview for day - 6 - I asked her back again. The only girl I repeated with). The two guys were just finishing up their breakfast's as I come down the stairs with her as I had not told the guys she was coming over. I think I got some Coolio points with the guys for the surprise.

For that day's daytime activity we went parasailing. A first for me, and man did I have a blast. Assuming you're not afraid of heights the experience was amazing. The views were crazy nice (we hit a time period where the sky was blue with white clouds) and it was just flat out fun. We had paid for 4 slots, but one guy had to skip as he didn't want to risk missing his flight, so we offered the 4th spot to the Van driver's 10 year old son. *he'd ridden with us the day before to the ATV area and was a cool kid. Biggest damn grin from ear to ear when we told him he was going to get to go. The bachelor was feeling really sick from too much alternative chemicals from the night before. *he was barely able to hold in the liquids from coming out his [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) shoot and we then offered the final slot to the van driver herself. *Not sure if the Mom and Son in normal circumstances would ever get to do something like this. But they were very appreciated and excited when their slots were done.

Waiting back for us at the apartment were the professional massage girls, which after all the stairs we took to get to the top of where the parasails launched, was a much needed requirement to unwind. *Little did I know at the time, but the bachelor got the same massage girl two days in a row and they hit it off. He got her number and started to work on hooking up with her for the next day.

Our van driver on the way back from the parasailing to the apartment had mentioned that the Medellin football team was having a final's match that night and her and her son were going. As none of us had ever gone to a match, we contacted our host to see if he could get us tix. He did and we Uber'd down to the stadium and got to experience the absolute craziness that is South American's watching soccer. Never experienced anything like it, and as weird as it seems, it was one of the most memorable experiences of my whole trip. Had absolutely zero to do with mongering, but electric and entertaining like nothing else I've ever done.

We decided to leave before the end of the match as we wanted to watch the Sunday night football game between the Seahawks and Patriots. We went to the Irish pub in Parque Lleres and got to see the game. Up to this point the whole trip I had been playing the 'dad' role of the group, getting well lubricated but not drunk to make sure the group was taken care of, but post the SNL game, where I had consumed way too much, we rolled to a second bar where I was practicing a Spanish phrase "Uno Mas" with a lot of gusto. Pounding down shot after shot of the aquardiente. After the second shot I had literally no memory, except for waking up at 9 am in bed to the smell of bacon frying. With what was starting to feel like the world's worst hangover I texted our host and ask to slide our tour for the day back 3 hours to give us all more time to sleep in.

Just as I'm about to fall back asleep, Mara from the morning before pinged me with a 'hola baby'. I barely remember asking if should could come over by 11, she countered 11:30 and I set my alarm for 11 and passed back out. Damn if she wasn't again early, this time 15 minutes. Somehow, when she arrived both my mind and body rallied. I was good to go and did. Damn I really enjoyed doing her. In our post smash cuddling and chatting she asked if I minded she took one call. Which turned out to be one of her legit jobs. She's a translator for a bank and needed to translate a few things for the office. She says she's also in school trying to complete her degree as a bookkeeper.

Walk down the stairs again, but this time the other guys are still hard passed out in their rooms. The chef had wrapped all our breakfast's in plastic wrap but with that world's worst hangover coming back with a vengeance and I couldn't even look at the omelettes he laid out for us. *I helped her get to the elevator than just wanted to die. In my 45 years I've never been in that much pain from too much drinking. The other guys stumble out of their rooms shortly after as we have a 1 pm pickup for that day's tour. One guy offers some adderall from his kid stash as a way to help cure the hangover. I want to put a bullet into my head, but after a lot of water, coffee, juice and some serious dry heaving I manage to feel normal enough to go out on our Pablo Escobar Tour of the city.

The Netflix show "Narco" was the original reason the bachelor picked Medellin as his destination location. *Going on this tour was cool as we got to learn a lot of the background on Pablo, see a bunch of historical locations about him and see some other parts of the city besides Poblado. I won't nerd out on Pablo, but for those interested in Narco's I highly recommend hooking up for one of these tours. Our tour guide was Mauricio. If you hit me with a PM I'll pass along his contact info.

We were supposed to end the tour at the Pablo Escobar Massage parlor, a casa built at the location of a former Pablo mansion, but it turns out that Monday was a holiday in Colombia which caused many houses to be closed including this one.

Dinner that night was Indian at a place called Naan. I'm from Seattle where we have a ton of Indian restaurants and I have to admit this was better than any I've had in Seattle. *Very small place, but if you like spicy Vindaloo, I highly recommend this place.

Post dinner back to apartment to clean up and the bachelor has arranged for the massage girl to come over after she gets off work. What we learned from her was that they live a few hours out of town, and they come in for two week, than go back home for two. During those two weeks they work 12 hour days, 9 to 9, for seven days in a row. We were proud of the bachelor as he was working to pickup a non-pro and she wanted to make sure our host would be nowhere near the apartment when she arrived as she didn't want to risk her real job with someone finding out she was seeing a client on the side. In a bold move, he asked her if her other co-worker, who we dubbed Jugs-McGee would also like to come over and party for the 3rd guy in our group who was just smitten with her boobs during the last two days totally non-sexual massages. *To our complete surprise she agreed to come over as well.

I hadn't planned to do anyone that night as I was saving myself up to do a girl I had made an appointment with 3 days ahead of time. Our party host though reminded me we still had one smash credit and we needed to use it or lose it, so I decided to go ahead and book the credit for the time when the other girls were to arrive.

10:30 rolls around and all the girls arrive just about on time. Awkward! You have one very clear pro there (my girl) with two non-pro's, plus 3 obviously horny gringo's. The bachelor's girl had told him at one point she's never had champagne but always wanted to try some, so our boy went out and got three bottles. He's filling the two non-pro's up with champagne, but my girls ask for something stronger. We had about everything available, and she went with some cognac, but just a small amount. About 40 minutes into their arrivals my pro winks at me and indicates lets go on the balcony, we do and when we get out there she gets super aggressive and is kissing and sucking face. I see the other girls looking at us, and then my girl says lets go upstairs.

When we get up there we get disrobed and she tells me we have to be quick. I'm like why, thinking that like the party night the smash credit was good for 3 hours. Unfortunately since my guy booked with such short notice she was only available for an hour and really had a hard deadline. I even offered to pay extra to have her stay but she was super sorry and had to leave by 11:45. So I asked her to just get busy with a BJ and off we went. Her name was Cristina and I unfortunately didn't get her last name. I will include a pic of her, as she's one of the few I had enough sense to even ask to take a pic. She was my ideal body type, huge all natural boobs, and an non-plastic, big Colombian ass. For me she was a clear 9.

Day 7 report to come soon.

[Gagoo]

Thanks for the correction. I'll take a look. Seems like New Life and Energy are the most highly regarded here. I had a great experience at Energy. Perhaps I'll try New Life instead of Loutron.If you like Energy and New Life, you should take a look at Abydos. Only half as many ladies, but they are pretty damn good looking. Only 140 K for an hour. Overall it is a relaxing place like Energy, but Energy is better for sure. But Abydos is much closer to El Poblado if that is where you stay. Abydos is almost across the street from a strip club called Luna Lanera. That is worth a look sometimes, but Fase II and La Isla is much better.

[Chesscat]

Nice info! I like this post!


If you like Energy and New Life, you should take a look at Abydos. Only half as many ladies, but they are pretty damn good looking. Only 140 K for an hour. Overall it is a relaxing place like Energy, but Energy is better for sure. But Abydos is much closer to El Poblado if that is where you stay. Abydos is almost across the street from a strip club called Luna Lanera. That is worth a look sometimes, but Fase II and La Isla is much better.

[Turgid]

....Massage Place (brothel) Energy. Carrera 74 # 49-101. I was there yesterday. I was also a little late there. I showed up at 8:30 PM, they close at 9:30 PM. The moma asked me to to pay first, which isn't normal, but it was probably because we were going to finish at closing time. I gave the moma 150 K and never got change back. The price use to be 140 K. Maybe it went up to 150 K.I went to Energy at around 2. 00 pm today. The mommie asks me to pay first! This seems to be a bad trend, perhaps due to faltering service by the chicas. I was asked 140 k for the hour. In my last visit to Leutron earlier this year I believe I had to pay first. Did New Life yesterday, paid after as usual for my 2 sessions. Next stop Abydos and will see what gives.

[YippieKayay]

I fucked a chica at Yakuza I just got to fuck more but that place is a shit hole. Has anyone tried ordering out? I guess I can call and ask?

[Surfer500]

I fucked a chica at Yakuza I just got to fuck more but that place is a shit hole. Has anyone tried ordering out? I guess I can call and ask?Place is a dump and not worth the 45 K for the mostly overweight Chicas there. You can do much better pulling a girl from the street for 20 K and paying 10 K for a room in and around the Church to the left of the Museum.

As far as take out they will probably want a lot for that and you can do much better on the street. I wouldn't waste my time at that dump it was disgusting when I went there a few weeks ago!

[Maasi42]

Place is a dump and not worth the 45 K for the mostly overweight Chicas there. You can do much better pulling a girl from the street for 20 K and paying 10 K for a room in and around the Church to the left of the Museum.

As far as take out they will probably want a lot for that and you can do much better on the street. I wouldn't waste my time at that dump it was disgusting when I went there a few weeks ago!Hello,

I will be in Medellin November 22nd and I'm new to this just wanting some advice. I will be staying at an airbnb and wondering if that's the best thing to do? What do small furnished apartments cost for one person in a safe areas?

[Maasi42]

I fucked a chica at Yakuza I just got to fuck more but that place is a shit hole. Has anyone tried ordering out? I guess I can call and ask?What's up. What are some girl friendly hotel that aren't slums?

[Maasi42]

I fucked a chica at Yakuza I just got to fuck more but that place is a shit hole. Has anyone tried ordering out? I guess I can call and ask?What's up? I will be in Medellin this coming up week and I am just want to know a little about what to expect and where is the best places to stay?

[Surfer500]

Hello,

I will be in Medellin November 22nd and I'm new to this just wanting some advice. I will be staying at an airbnb and wondering if that's the best thing to do? What do small furnished apartments cost for one person in a safe areas?RTFF, RTFF, etc.

[World Travel 69]

Read this thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments


What's up? I will be in Medellin this coming up week and I am just want to know a little about what to expect and where is the best places to stay?

[Black Page]

RTFF, RTFF, etc.Best advice, always.

[Black Page]

What's up. What are some girl friendly hotel that aren't slums?It has beed said so many things already: NONE (but an overwhelming amount of love motels from decent up to luxury and always at affordable price).

More info here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1964641&viewfull=1#post1964641
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1964540&viewfull=1#post1964540
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1887119&viewfull=1#post1887119
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1894832&viewfull=1#post1894832
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1898154&viewfull=1#post1898154

[Jonesie]

What's up. What are some girl friendly hotel that aren't slums?There are quite a few options for housing in Medellin, from short term apartments, reasonably priced hotels, to be&be options. The guys will probably come down a little on you for just asking the question outright as your first few posts, don't take it personally, these were the milk-distributors and hall monitors in high school.

First, pay the $20 (still 20?) and get a membership that includes private messaging. That way some of the members can refer you to their suggested favorites without redundant posts to the forum. Second, there are some options lower on this sub-forum that could use updating, but most are still somewhat relevant. You'll get some feedback from members that love or hate these places.

For hotels, my personal favorites are either Lloyd's on Calle 7 D, and Estellar Blue off Calle 1 sur. Both in great neighborhoods, close to good dining, and modern hotels with everything (hot water, internet, etc) functional. And reasonably priced to boot.

The mansion could be a fit. A be&be for like-minded guys. Good part is you'll be exposed to some cool guys, some who can help you along. Bad part is you'll be exposed to some creepy guys as well, and you're stuck with them until one of you checks out.

The apartment game can be interesting as well. More privacy, normally better facilities, but if it's your first trip, you could be stuck in a strange, unknown city with no idea how to fill your time. Since you're asking this question on a monger forum, I'm guessing you'll probably want to meet up with the fairer sex. You'll need some chica management skills if you choose this option.

Good luck.

[Fun Luvr]

Hello,

I will be in Medellin November 22nd and I'm new to this just wanting some advice. I will be staying at an airbnb and wondering if that's the best thing to do? What do small furnished apartments cost for one person in a safe areas?If you will be staying for at least a week, you should be able to find a nice apartment in a safe area (Poblado or Laureles) for $50 or less per night. Since no one knows your lifestyle or what you are looking for, it is impossible to say if airbnb is best.

[TrueScotsMan]

RTFF, RTFF, etc.Yes you say RTFF but if your new to this then you can ask the question. Some of the fucking forum may be out date! So if you pay your subscription then in I'll ask anything I want!

[JjBee62]

Yes you say RTFF but if your new to this then you can ask the question. Some of the fucking forum may be out date! So if you pay your subscription then in I'll ask anything I want!If you're completely new to all of this, then reading the forum is critical. Very few of us grow up knowing how to find, approach and negotiate with P4 P partners in a foreign country, while staying safe. It's easy to answer the where and how much questions, but much harder to teach someone how to know they are getting into a bad situation.

For anyone new to all of this, who doesn't want to read the forum, there's a simple answer; stay at the Mansion. If they don't want to stay at the Mansion, then RTFF.

Does he prefer big, surgically enhanced butts and boobs, or is he looking for something more natural? Older, younger, classier, sleazier, lighter, darker? PSE or GFE? Does he want 5 star accommodations or the cheapest option? Is he looking for other experiences besides the P4 P, or does he plan on just sleeping, eating and fucking for the duration? Would the scene at Fase 2 be more his style, or would a trip to Energy suit him? How are his Spanish skills? Is he okay with walking in and out of 6 Centro Casas looking for a bargain, or would he rather pay more for a guaranteed home run?

Each of us know what we like, we know what we want to do once we hit the ground. We've learned what is best for us. Some have been generous enough to share their experiences here. By reading the forum, the new guy gets an idea of his own comfort level. He gets an idea of where to stay, which places to visit, or who to call. He educates himself so he can ask specific questions.

In other words he makes it possible for someone on the forum to give him advice he can use, instead of blindly following someone else.

RTFF sounds rude, but it's the best possible advice. Learn from others mistakes. Learn what works for you. Find your comfort zone and enjoy your stay, instead of trying to follow someone else's path. Make your first trip a good one.

[TrueScotsMan]

If you're completely new to all of this, then reading the forum is critical. Very few of us grow up knowing how to find, approach and negotiate with P4 P partners in a foreign country, while staying safe. It's easy to answer the where and how much questions, but much harder to teach someone how to know they are getting into a bad situation.

For anyone new to all of this, who doesn't want to read the forum, there's a simple answer; stay at the Mansion. If they don't want to stay at the Mansion, then RTFF.

Does he prefer big, surgically enhanced butts and boobs, or is he looking for something more natural? Older, younger, classier, sleazier, lighter, darker? PSE or GFE? Does he want 5 star accommodations or the cheapest option? Is he looking for other experiences besides the P4 P, or does he plan on just sleeping, eating and fucking for the duration? Would the scene at Fase 2 be more his style, or would a trip to Energy suit him? How are his Spanish skills? Is he okay with walking in and out of 6 Centro Casas looking for a bargain, or would he rather pay more for a guaranteed home run?.You to were once a newbie, I understand what you mean but we live in a world of demand now. Everything you want only a click away. Cut some slack.

[Surfer500]

Yes you say RTFF but if your new to this then you can ask the question. Some of the fucking forum may be out date! So if you pay your subscription then in I'll ask anything I want!Yes of course your free to ask a question anytime you want however when someone asks a question without RTFF first where in this case the answers to this poster's questions where available in my opinion is insulting and dis-respectful of the other members who have spent hours sharing in valuable information that benefit a lot of us. I think you will have a different take on this after you have spent the time writing at least a few hundred posts.

[JjBee62]

You to were once a newbie, I understand what you mean but we live in a world of demand now. Everything you want only a click away. Cut some slack.If everything is just a click away, why should I cut some slack for someone who is too lazy to click?

However, I do cut some slack. If someone has a specific question, which I can answer or needs some general information, I'm happy to provide it, even if he could have found the answers by reading the forum.

But when someone comes along, says I don't know anything, teach me everything I need to know, then the only answer is RTFF. Should we spend 20 posts finding out his past experience, language skills, other international destinations, preferences, comfort level, confidence and personality, then take the time to put together a detailed, personalized course of instruction, complete with walking maps and a list of useful phrases?

At some point it's time to put on the big boy pants and find your own answers and the best way to do that is to RTFF.

[YippieKayay]

And other sites like. The photos are fucking fake. Tried twice. The first one showed up 150 cheese burgers over what she had in the photos. She kept showing me photos of other people on her phone and claiming she was the girl in the photo. Yes multiple other people. Here I am sitting in a nice restaurant trying not to panic. She actually sucked great cock though.

The second one showed up about 300 cheeseburgers over what was in the photos. Did a terrible job. I even got a nice Italian take out for her.

Parque lleras has street walkers by the liquor store but they all look too young. I wouldn't touch them.

[Black Page]

Parque lleras has street walkers by the liquor store but they all look too young. I wouldn't touch them.Are you interested only to MILFs? There are places for jailbaits in MDE, and LLeras is not certainly one of those.

[YippieKayay]

Are you interested only to MILFs? There are places for jailbaits in MDE, and LLeras is not certainly one of those.Verified one parqur lleras walker was actually 23 and brought her back. She was wanted 500 USD for TLN then started quoting 200 k pesos an hour. Gave her 50 k to leave.

Going to Cartagena tomorrow to see if its a shit show there too.

Just a bad trip. I only really enjoyed one chica and she was in a shit hole casa.

[Pepe1976X]

Yes of course your free to ask a question anytime you want however when someone asks a question without RTFF first where in this case the answers to this poster's questions where available in my opinion is insulting and dis-respectful of the other members who have spent hours sharing in valuable information that benefit a lot of us. I think you will have a different take on this after you have spent the time writing at least a few hundred posts.Well done Surfer500! This is the most polite and well explained response to those newbies that feel they are owed some form of free pass to ask inane questions. Invariably the answers are always in the last 20 pages of a thread!

[Surfer500]

Verified one parqur lleras walker was actually 23 and brought her back. She was wanted 500 USD for TLN then started quoting 200 k pesos an hour. Gave her 50 k to leave.

Going to Cartagena tomorrow to see if its a shit show there too.

Just a bad trip. I only really enjoyed one chica and she was in a shit hole casa.You brought a girl from Parque Lleras to your place not knowing how much she wanted before you left with her?

[BlueChange]

If you like Energy and New Life, you should take a look at Abydos. Only half as many ladies, but they are pretty damn good looking. Only 140 K for an hour. Overall it is a relaxing place like Energy, but Energy is better for sure. But Abydos is much closer to El Poblado if that is where you stay. Abydos is almost across the street from a strip club called Luna Lanera. That is worth a look sometimes, but Fase II and La Isla is much better.What are the hours there? Looking to check it out. I got a little bored with the line up at a energy. Seems not much new or good talent. Could use a change.

[Mr Enternational]

Verified one parqur lleras walker was actually 23 and brought her back. She was wanted 500 USD for TLN then started quoting 200 k pesos an hour. Gave her 50 k to leave.

Going to Cartagena tomorrow to see if its a shit show there too.

Just a bad trip. I only really enjoyed one chica and she was in a shit hole casa.Medellin is great. You must be doing something wrong. You did countless hours of bullshit so-called internet preparation (Tinder, lying to hoes, etc) to have a shitty time? Better look at the man in the mirror. Maybe they are seeing something in you that you don't know they are seeing. Why would you bring a chick back without getting a price first? Then give her 50 fucking K to leave? You can get a session downtown for less than that. Cartagena is way more expensive than Medellin. Prepare yourself for even more of a shit show if you saw Medellin that way.

[JjBee62]

Verified one parqur lleras walker was actually 23 and brought her back. She was wanted 500 USD for TLN then started quoting 200 k pesos an hour. Gave her 50 k to leave.

Going to Cartagena tomorrow to see if its a shit show there too.

Just a bad trip. I only really enjoyed one chica and she was in a shit hole casa.I've been watching your pre-trip posts with some interest. I also tend to overthink my trips (I started planning for my April trip in October). Fortunately, someone gave me some good advice a while back. Don't reinvent the wheel.

Each mongering spot has its own style. You've talked a lot about Panama City, and what worked there, but each place is different and some places are better suited for your preferred style (try out a few, then wife up for the remainder). Some mediums are also better than others.

As you stated in one post, Medellin is a casa / strip club / massage places. Energy, New Life, Fase Dos, San Diego, Luna Lunera, Abydos are a few of the more highly recommended spots. If you're going with the city mongering scene, one of those probably should be on the schedule.

If you're going for the 4 or 5 days wife up, then some of the Sugar daddy / baby sites are probably the best bet. Mileroticos is Colombia's Backpage. It's the cheapest advertising option, and is frequented by the low end of the profession. It's possible to find a diamond, but you're going to sift through a bunch of crap to find her. Tinder and Colombian Cupid are options, but you need to work them. Many are looking for a real relationship. Others are looking for a sucker. Somewhere in the middle are a handful who are ready for an adventure while supplementing their income.

Both Seeking Arrangements and What's Your Price have active members in Medellin. It's not going to be cheap, but if you're more interested in a longer period with one woman, that's probably the best place to start.

The best advice I can offer is to figure out the city scene before you go and either stay within the scene or pick a city that is more your style. Look at the rave reviews. Those are the places to go. Once you've had a few good experiences, if you feel like being more adventurous, go for it. You can always go back if you don't find what you're looking for.

Here's hoping Cartagena works out better for you.

[YippieKayay]

I've been watching your pre-trip posts with some interest. I also tend to overthink my trips (I started planning for my April trip in October). Fortunately, someone gave me some good advice a while back. Don't reinvent the wheel.
Yes, you are spot on. I was expecting another Panama City. I thought I would find a good pick up bar in Parque Lleras like Habanos in Panama City. Looks like LDV in Cartagena will be more to my liking.

I did not try strip clubs or any online hookups other than tinder. One person I met here was having great success with facebook but I am still looking to avoid that.

Medellin is a wonderful city. The people are warm and welcoming. Other than a few touts and cabs trying to scam me I have not met any assholes.

I did meet two girls whom I think fall in the middle of the prepago to non-pro spectrum. We had a nice dinner which they liked, got Bachata lessons back at my place, and then took me to Las Palmas which I did not know ever existed.

One mentioned she could come see me in Caratgena but I am on the fence on that one. They also want to introduce me to more of their friends and want me to bring friends with me.

Thanks for taking the time to make your post and lay out all the options.

[Hasideas Tao]

I have to agree. A lot of guys come down here having over planned and over invested a lot of energy into unknowns. I did it too. It's a swing reaction. Overcompensating for being starved and not wanting to waste a moment while here on the ground. Guys self sabotage by simply being too hungry and awkwardly fucking up the whole vibe with a chica who might normally be very cool.

Your plan should be.

Go to a casa first. The best way to quickly clear your heads! Plenty of choices. Very economical. Disappointment factor is low although you may spend a few hours walking around until you find someone you like. (far less than the hours and hours of chatting and self delusion) But you will put yourself at ease and in a clearer mindset for other adventures.

Set up dates with vetted chicas. Plenty of solid reviews here. Find one who catches your eye and try to be clear about what you want to do with her. You will be surprised how receptive and accommodating the girls can be. Do not fool yourself that you are tapping into some undiscovered diamond mine. None of them are new to the scene. You are the one who is new.

Facebook: If you want to save yourself hours of online chatting, hoping for an unknown to show, $150 plus taxi money, work smart and set up multiple coffee / lunch dates with girls at a nearby bar or coffee shop. Double book because you know flake factor is high! Tell them you are very busy or have a commitment later that day, so if they are going to be late, you cannot wait. You can make your negotiations prior but the worst case if they show up 100 cheeseburgers more than their photos LOL, you give them cab money if you don't see sparks. Best case, take them back to your place and romparound for hours.

And of course, there are plenty of guys down here like myself with a lot of experience, who like to hang out, check out places you might not want to go alone and in a friendly way can help you avoid a lot of frustration and keep your train on its tracks chugging along smoothly. Kind of like a personal trainer at your gym. You just get a lot more out of your time.


Medellin is great. You must be doing something wrong. You did countless hours of bullshit so-called internet preparation (Tinder, lying to hoes, etc) to have a shitty time? Better look at the man in the mirror. Maybe they are seeing something in you that you don't know they are seeing. Why would you bring a chick back without getting a price first? Then give her 50 fucking K to leave? You can get a session downtown for less than that. Cartagena is way more expensive than Medellin. Prepare yourself for even more of a shit show if you saw Medellin that way.

[YippieKayay]

You brought a girl from Parque Lleras to your place not knowing how much she wanted before you left with her?Yes it was a mistake. I was drunk and thought at worset she would ask for 250 k. When I said shit show I just meant my experience as a whole. Reality really didn't meet expectations.

Panama City is so different. Boring and hot during the day but amazing at night. Looking for an alternative in Cartagena to it. Will post my experience of it in the other thread.

[YippieKayay]

Are you interested only to MILFs? There are places for jailbaits in MDE, and LLeras is not certainly one of those.They honestly looked very young to me the last few days. Not sure when you checked last. They mostly look the same young with tight jeans and a tank top.

I recall seeing two smoking chicas sitting on the bench across from Mi Habana. Smoking hot and wearing tank tops. A car stopped and the guy called a vendor the red uniform. He gave her something and pointed to the girls. The vendor talked to the girls for a few minutes then walked away. Shortly after a regular stream of men would stop to talk to them and walk away. Eventually the women hooked up with their boyfriends and walked on. It was funny. They were being hassled for looking like prepagos.

[Mr Enternational]

It was funny. They were being hassled for looking like prepagos.Correct me if I am wrong, but I think a prepago is a girl that you find off a website or something. Eg. Escort. If they were standing outside then they may have been mistaken for streetwalkers. You could argue that a hooker is a hooker though.

[El Tiburon]

Is there any mongering activity during the Christmas to New Year Week in Medellin? Or is it a total shutdown during this week? Anyone know of any clubs or casas or other mongering spots that remain open during this week? Will hotel Mansion be open and have any girls during this Week?

I am assuming Dec. 24 and 25 will probably be a total shutdown. But do some places open from Dec. 26?

Please share your experiences / knowledge of time during this week.

[Judd]

Being my third trip to MDE this year, I'd have to say the Park Lleras scene, at least in my eyes, has gone downhill. Maybe its the time of the year, the rain, or because my eyes are now open to other places. To quote from Wilhelm, "you've got to go downtown George. Its all downtown. ".

[YippieKayay]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think a prepago is a girl that you find off a website or something. Eg. Escort. If they were standing outside then they may have been mistaken for streetwalkers. You could argue that a hooker is a hooker though.Colombians use it to mean women who take money for sex or company. The two girls I "dated" both told me when we go out people think she is a prepago. They didn't mind. They were just educating me.

[Mr Enternational]

Colombians use it to mean women who take money for sex or company. The two girls I "dated" both told me when we go out people think she is a prepago. They didn't mind. They were just educating me.They all take money for sex. I think you were using it in the wrong context though. They probably meant that people would think she was an escort because maybe you two looked mismatched. But you would not tell your friend hey let's go down to the casa or the park and get a couple of prepagos.

Just as the term escort is used in English. You find escorts on websites and shit. You would not go down to the strip club or the track in order to get an escort. They are prearranged, hence prepago. Street chicks are not prearranged. They are picked up on the spot and would not be considered prepagos. It is a certain category of sex worker.

[Hioctane]

They all take money for sex. I think you were using it in the wrong context though. They probably meant that people would think she was an escort because maybe you two looked mismatched. But you would not tell your friend hey let's go down to the casa or the park and get a couple of prepagos.

Just as the term escort is used in English. You find escorts on websites and shit. You would not go down to the strip club or the track in order to get an escort. They are prearranged, hence prepago. Street chicks are not prearranged. They are picked up on the spot and would not be considered prepagos. It is a certain category of sex worker.Prepago means hooker no matter where you find them. Someone that is paid for sex.

Not everyone takes money for sex! This goes with Colombia and any part of the world. SMH. I don't even want to even get into debating whether girlfriends / wives are "paid for sex".

[Judd]

I happened to be working out at the Bodytech Gym in the Vizcaya mall in Poblado. I'm having lunch at Mondongo's afterwords, and in walks Duff with his entourage. Bodyguard was a dick when I tried to snap a pic. Anyone interested in going to the concert tomorrow, drop me a PM.

Late,

Judd.

[Black Page]

I happened to be working out at the Bodytech Gym in the Vizcaya mall in Poblado. I'm having lunch at Mondongo's afterwords, and in walks Duff with his entourage. Bodyguard was a dick when I tried to snap a pic. Anyone interested in going to the concert tomorrow, drop me a PM.
.I had to Google "Duff", but still I do not understand your post. Nothing to do with Duffy Duck anyway, I learned.

[YippieKayay]

I had to Google "Duff", but still I do not understand your post. Nothing to do with Duffy Duck anyway, I learned.I think that is the bassist from Guns'and'Roses.

[PickCherry12]

Being my third trip to MDE this year, I'd have to say the Park Lleras scene, at least in my eyes, has gone downhill. Maybe its the time of the year, the rain, or because my eyes are now open to other places. To quote from Wilhelm, "you've got to go downtown George. Its all downtown. ".Did you mean other places in MDE or in Colombia? Please share.

[Judd]

The Bass player for Guns and Roses.

[YippieKayay]

I spoke to a local who told me that since Colombian Jake got arrested and apparently another foreigner was shot for pimping the cops have been cleaning up Parque Lleras. According to him it used to be really bad where putas would come knocking on doors and offering themselves but that's all changed.

Grain of salt and all that.

[Surfer500]

I think that is the bassist from Guns'and'Roses.Yes they are in town and OSEA an upscale eating place in Poblado is catering Thanksgiving dinner for them. That's what the owner told me when I had dinner there the other night.

[Maasi42]

I'm looking to find a place I can find a girl that I don't have to bring back to the room.

[World Travel 69]

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists


I'm looking to find a place I can find a girl that I don't have to bring back to the room.

[Hasideas Tao]

I'm looking to find a place I can find a girl that I don't have to bring back to the room.Las cabanas.

Minimum taxi ride from lleras.

Located off of avenida poblado.

Cool rooms that make for an instant intimate party.

Very private as your taxi drops you off right to your room.

[Coupe66]

Hi guys, who can tell me how to find the Medellin RLD area on google maps with steetwalkers / chicas in front of hotels as I've seen on a few videos online taken walking around the area, just so I can check it out myself. How dangerous is it to walk there in the daytime compared to the Bogota RLD?

[Black Page]

Hi guys, who can tell me how to find the Medellin RLD area on google maps with steetwalkers / chicas in front of hotels as I've seen on a few videos online taken walking around the area, just so I can check it out myself. How dangerous is it to walk there in the daytime compared to the Bogota RLD?I propose this for the RoD.

[Lakeside1]

Hi guys, who can tell me how to find the Medellin RLD area on google maps with steetwalkers / chicas in front of hotels as I've seen on a few videos online taken walking around the area, just so I can check it out myself. How dangerous is it to walk there in the daytime compared to the Bogota RLD?Is this the area you are referring to?

[Queens35]

Late report, got swamped with work when I came back. First time to MDE, 2 non speaking Asian dudes with google translate ready to go, RTFF, amazing map. Shout out to the one that made the list.

Day 1:

Buddy and I got an apartment near Parque Lleras, quite convenient but expensive, near an exito. No probs getting thru immigration got picked up by our driver. Got to our apartment around 11 pm. Met up with a gringo and some dude on fb that msg me at Parque lleras. Saw "independents" walking around. We decided to head up to La Isla. 5 peeps in a yellow taxi going up a hill, fun times. Got sat near the stage, had to purchase a bottle, forgot the name but it was nasty. Lots of hotties around but I did not pull. Buddy pulled a nice skinny with a cute butt, IRC her name was Jenny. Talks perfect english. Damage was 350 k, service was good. I got her whatsapp #. Went back to the apartment around 3 am.

Day 4:

Sunday, day of rest LOL. Ate at a small restaurant near the apartment and talked about how lucky we are in this trip. Friend whatsapp the girl Camilla to come over the apartment, I was kinda paranoid about bringing girls over, she met us at a restaurant near our place. She text her friend to come, so I wouldn't be alone. Three of us were in the apartment, she had a very good attitude, google translate mvp. Of course we took precautions, hide everything and watch our drinks. We only had water and plantain chips LOL. Then her friend arrived. Hooly shitt. Short about 5' skinny but with curves, name is Isabella. We hit it off, went to our separate rooms, we did it in the shower, bed, couch, walls LOL. Both stayed for 3-4 hrs, 300 k + taxi. We had grins on our faces, didn't get drugged up, no lame performances. So prior to coming to MDE I was using Seeking Arrangement. Was talking to this girl to meet me up when I was in MDE. Sent her a text to meet up at a restaurant. Buddy and I came, drank beer or two and talking on what's happening with our lives so far, we reached to an agreement that we are getting to be old dirty bastards then came my girl, holy shit she was hot. About 5'7 tight jeans and nice blouse? We hugged and order some food. She's a great talker, english, we stayed there for an hour or two just talking. Then she showed me her google translate (mvp) on what I wanted to do next. I said for a couple of hours, she quoted me 500 k, I'm like hmms. Little bro was like, "dude I want that" so I said sure, where?! Ended up in this IBIS love motel. Shit is amazing, she undressed and start dancing on the pole. Perfect body, nicely done man made boobs, girl squats and it shows. We stayed for 4 hours, more than it was agreed, but she had fun and price stayed the same. So Seeking Arrangement worked, tinder is shit in my opinion. Buddy called Camilla while I was with SA girl for overnight. I came home around 5 ish. Gringos still smoking outside hostel.
300 K?
350 k?
500 k?

Did I fall into some kind of bizarro world? And these are guys who presumably have read this forum. I guess a guy who never gets a woman in the US loses his fucking mind when a Colombiana winks at him.

[Queens35]

That evening the bachelor (who I also had stay at the Mansion) and I went out to dinner with a 3rd friend and came back late (I think it was almost midnight). *Alexa, the front desk lady, allowed us to bring our friend into the bar as a 'guest' since all rooms are booked up (with a 50 k fee). Yeah, that was very generous of them to let your friend in to a bar for 50 k COP. In case you didn't notice, that was sarcasm.

[Queens35]

Day 3:

Up in time for breakfast (one of the nice benefits of being at the Mansion. The cook will make you made to order food and catching up with the guys at the outside patio is nice as well.).Cook? Don't you mean the maid, the woman who cleans the toilets? Hope she washed her hands.

[Queens35]

Verified one parqur lleras walker was actually 23 and brought her back. She was wanted 500 USD for TLN then started quoting 200 k pesos an hour. Gave her 50 k to leave.What? You gave her 50 k just for talking to her? Who are you people?

EDIT: I think I misread the post. Sounds like you brought a hooker back to your hotel without discussing price upfront, so of course she's going to quote you a ridiculous price. At least you were smart enough to decline.

[Queens35]

Prepago means hooker no matter where you find them. Someone that is paid for sex.

Not everyone takes money for sex! This goes with Colombia and any part of the world. SMH. I don't even want to even get into debating whether girlfriends / wives are "paid for sex".+1. Anybody who takes money for sex is a prepago.

[Surfer500]

300 K?
350 k?
500 k?

Did I fall into some kind of bizarro world? And these are guys who presumably have read this forum. I guess a guy who never gets a woman in the US loses his fucking mind when a Colombiana winks at him.Yes, you can divide all those numbers by 10 in El Centro.

[Surfer500]

I propose this for the RoD.Please translate for us what RoD means.

[Combo]

Yes, you can divide all those numbers by 10 in El Centro.And you can divide by 2 in the venues the OP was hanging out in.

[Mr Enternational]

Please translate for us what RoD means.Reports of Distinction.

[OldTrack]

Quick post I'm still on my trip so what is going on my trip. Had a great time I Gusto last night met me a beautiful Colombian in the Parque Lleras and negotiated 160000 for an hour. I guess it's all about how you approach the women if you have enough confidence they will go with the flow that being said I'm going to Jade massage Palace today trying to see what's up with that I will keep you posted peace.

[Black Page]

Please translate for us what RoD means.Mr. E already responded. I think you don't ignore.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_wsgforum_01#faq_faq_terms
(which does not include RoD, BTW*) (*By The Way).

I wrote that, because tired of the usual unkind "RTFF". I've seldom seen such a naif request.

If one is intimidated by the thousands of pages of pure pointless chitchat (incl. my present post. I admit) which are characteristic of the Medellin Forum, there is always the RoD section, which is smaller and extremely instructive for all newbies. In addition, why not to use the "search" function? Searching "street walkers" yields a lot about the El Centro scene.

[Gary Groundwork]

300 K?
350 k?
500 k?

Did I fall into some kind of bizarro world? And these are guys who presumably have read this forum. I guess a guy who never gets a woman in the US loses his fucking mind when a Colombiana winks at him.Yep and the very reason Medellin is getting worse. Guys like this throwing money at girls.

FK me why travel to another country to pay like that.

[JuiceGuy]

This is my first trip to Medellin. I have read the Reports of Distinction. Some were very helpful; others are very old. Please let me know if you can provide relevant up to date advice for someone new to MDE. I am happy to reciprocate with information about Brazil, Costa Rica, China, Taiwan, Thailand, Singapore, Dubai, Austria, etc.

I am staying at Mansion 1 Dec 14-19.

[SavePros321]

Please let me know if you can provide relevant up to date advice for someone new to MDE.

I am staying at Mansion 1 Dec 14-19.What specific advice are you trying to get that you did not get out of reading past reports? Looks like you already followed some good advice about staying at the Mansion as a first timer.

[Turgid]

Yep and the very reason Medellin is getting worse. Guys like this throwing money at girls.

FK me why travel to another country to pay like that.Only the locales popular with Americans are getting worse. Fortunately, unlike the Dominican Republic, Panama and Costa Rica, there are many establishments that are unknown to Americans in Colombia.

[Chesscat]

So you have to have game to negotiate $160 k per hour? Is that like a deal?


Quick post I'm still on my trip so what is going on my trip. Had a great time I Gusto last night met me a beautiful Colombian in the Parque Lleras and negotiated 160000 for an hour. I guess it's all about how you approach the women if you have enough confidence they will go with the flow that being said I'm going to Jade massage Palace today trying to see what's up with that I will keep you posted peace.

[Black Page]

Only the locales popular with Americans are getting worse. Fortunately, unlike the Dominican Republic, Panama and Costa Rica, there are many establishments that are unknown to Americans in Colombia.A huge piece of wisdom! So true. Fortunately true.

[World Travel 69]

Here is three shots of Calle 22 and Carrera 15 in the Santa Fe barrio.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM&ll=4.612684762558393%2C-74.07559137135581&z=19

No problem walking in the Day time, be careful at night.


Hi guys, who can tell me how to find the Medellin RLD area on google maps with steetwalkers / chicas in front of hotels as I've seen on a few videos online taken walking around the area, just so I can check it out myself. How dangerous is it to walk there in the daytime compared to the Bogota RLD?

[Coupe66]

Thanks for the advice and the link World Travel 69. Area looks very small and empty though compared to that I though I saw online, and compared to the RLD in Bogota too. Where is the commercial centre of the city? Just to see average ladies walking about on google maps. Not malls though. That would be good to see too.

[Judd]

What's up Fellas. Met up with a dude last night, and showed him Barra Ejecutiva in Centro. It was only my second time there, and the quantity + quality of chica was quite impressive. A good 40+ chicas in just about every flavor imaginable. With that being said, you have to be careful to avoid the "Sharks" who look hot, and give shit service. Unfortunately, that's exactly what I did, and it was my fault. I saw this chica sitting down with some Colombian. She wasn't really that hot, but she had the biggest tits I've seen so far in MDE that weren't on some really heavy chica. A few minutes later, she came walking toward our table, and ask her to sit with us. My shit service radar flagged her a minute into the conversation. However, since she reminded me of one of my big titted Novias from Peru, I let my little guy make the decision. Never a good idea. She asked for 90 k, but agreed to 80 k.

In the room, she began to yawn, and didn't really engage in any meaningful conversation. Usually, the chicas at the strips clubs would be bumping and grinding to the music with me. Not this one. Gave a subpar BJ. You know the type where they just put the tip in their mouth, and then do something with their tongue. What's that all about? Never experienced this type of BJ until MDE. I need to start telling these chicas that offers no benefit to me whatsoever. Tease the tip with your tongue, then, Suck and Stroke. That's what we like! Wouldn't get into doggy the way I wanted too. After a few minutes, she started bitchin about something. At that point, I just pulled the plug on the session, and told her to get the F out! Just kidding on the get the F out part. I did tell her no mas, got dressed, and split. I'd rather save my strokes for a provider who can at least fake like she's having a good time. The good news is the crap service didn't sting so much since I was only out 80 k, and did get to see those big titties bounce for a New York minute. The lessons here is if the conversation isn't happening at the table, that's not a good sign. Also, you should talk about your expectations for the session up front. If she's not enthused about what you laid out, move on to someone else.

My buddy batted. 500 for the night. He found a good one during his first session. He went back for seconds after we hit Macaibo (prob not spelled right) next door, and apparently, she was a dud. All and all, I'd say this place has some great potential. Probably 70% of the talent at Ejecutiva are bangable. Your just going to have to put in the time to find the gems. I got that covered since I'm here til February. LOL.

Late,

Judd.

[Mr Enternational]

What's up Fellas. Met up with a dude last night, and showed him Barra Ejecutiva in Centro. It was only my second time there, and the quantity + quality of chica was quite impressive. A good 40+ chicas in just about every flavor imaginable. With that being said, you have to be careful to avoid the "Sharks" who look hot, and give shit service. It is usually the older ones there that do that. How old was your girl?

[Combo]

So you have to have game to negotiate $160 k per hour? Is that like a deal?I found that amusing also.

[Judd]

She said she was 26, but I'd say she was easily over 30. Unfortunately, I didn't remember her name because I was so focused on her rack. She had medium brown hair, somewhat light skin, round 5'5, nice figure, and some crappy flower tattoo on one of her shoulders. You know her?


It is usually the older ones there that do that. How old was your girl?

[Black Page]

Here is three shots of Calle 22 and Carrera 15 in the Santa Fe barrio.This is the Medellin thread, you provided photos of Santa Fe in Bogota. This guy looks confused and clueless enough, to not need to add more.

[Black Page]

Thanks for the advice and the link World Travel 69. Area looks very small and empty though compared to that I though I saw online, and compared to the RLD in Bogota too. Where is the commercial centre of the city? Just to see average ladies walking about on google maps. Not malls though. That would be good to see too.Medellin is a large city, a normal city with a lot of activity in many areas (not like those strange places, typical of USA, say like Dallas, where there is a small "downtown" and 95% of the city is a huge desert area made of highways and "blocks" Plenty of "commercial areas". Plenty of malls and even street markets. Plenty of people, a crowd.

If you really want to preview using Google Maps, why don't you search Google for "mall"? Or why don't you read the RoD and the List to see where is this damn RLD? Several RLDs, by the way, and wide. The same streets will be crowded of humanity at daytime, and desert at night. Not to mention the bars.

Make a list of places to see (search "Medellin tourism") and start from the regular places. Visit the Centro at day time but stay away at night unless you are already acquainted and street smart enough. You would not like to visit East St. Louis at night without having a clue, right?

[GringoLoco66]

Here is a shot of El Centro. I was standing on the corner of Calle 48 and Carrera 54.

[JoeqNight]

What's up Fellas. Met up with a dude last night, and showed him Barra Ejecutiva in Centro. It was only my second time there, and the quantity + quality of chica was quite impressive. A good 40+ chicas in just about every flavor imaginable. With that being said, you have to be careful to avoid the "Sharks" who look hot, and give shit service. Unfortunately, that's exactly what I did, and it was my fault. I saw this chica sitting down with some Colombian. She wasn't really that hot, but she had the biggest tits I've seen so far in MDE that weren't on some really heavy chica. A few minutes later, she came walking toward our table, and ask her to sit with us. My shit service radar flagged her a minute into the conversation. However, since she reminded me of one of my big titted Novias from Peru, I let my little guy make the decision. Never a good idea. She asked for 90 k, but agreed to 80 k.

In the room, she began to yawn, and didn't really engage in any meaningful conversation. Usually, the chicas at the strips clubs would be bumping and grinding to the music with me. Not this one. Gave a subpar BJ. You know the type where they just put the tip in their mouth, and then do something with their tongue. What's that all about? Never experienced this type of BJ until MDE. I need to start telling these chicas that offers no benefit to me whatsoever..What time did you go? Went 12:30 am it was packed. But it had some shady dudes as well.

[Advantageous]

300 K?
350 k?
500 k?

Did I fall into some kind of bizarro world? And these are guys who presumably have read this forum. I guess a guy who never gets a woman in the US loses his fucking mind when a Colombiana winks at him.No fucking joke, I was looking at the same shit bewildered. Between this guy, Thedman, and Mr. "if you have enough confidence prostitutes will take your money for sex", I'm realizing that the outpouring of cats that jacked the pussy prices in the CR and DR are making their way to MDE. Coming unexpectedly next weekend because of Castro's death fucking up my Havana trip, but I think I'll make my base La 70 this go-around. And maybe start falling back to Bogota or Cali in the future.

[Queens35]

Quick post I'm still on my trip so what is going on my trip. Had a great time I Gusto last night met me a beautiful Colombian in the Parque Lleras and negotiated 160000 for an hour. I guess it's all about how you approach the women if you have enough confidence they will go with the flow that being said I'm going to Jade massage Palace today trying to see what's up with that I will keep you posted peace.You overpaid by 10-60 k.

[World Travel 69]

Sorry, too busy working on both Cities.


This is the Medellin thread, you provided photos of Santa Fe in Bogota. This guy looks confused and clueless enough, to not need to add more.

[World Travel 69]

Here are a couple of shots of Carrera 53 between Calles 51 and 52.
Point 2 on this Map.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1oSkedwpda6eSKk1YofeuPtpLhU4&ll=6.251306818666052%2C-75.56788610265511&z=18


Here is three shots of Calle 22 and Carrera 15 in the Santa Fe barrio.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM&ll=4.612684762558393%2C-74.07559137135581&z=19

No problem walking in the Day time, be careful at night.

[Black Page]

Here are a couple of shots of Carrera 53 between Calles 51 and 52.
Point 2 on this Map.You seem to enjoy spoon-feeding also those who insist to ignore to review your fabulous Lists. They are not complete, neither always accurate, but a mandatory starting point for anyone who approaches a new town for the first time.

Then, I will add a small piece of information for newbies in Colombia: if you feel hungry walking around downtown (Centro) and you see a light sign flashing "GRILL", that's not where you will find a steak.

[El Mechanico]

+1. Anybody who takes money for sex is a prepago.Anybody who takes money Before sex is a prepago.

[JuiceGuy]

What should the going rate be these days?


No fucking joke, I was looking at the same shit bewildered. Between this guy, Thedman, and Mr. "if you have enough confidence prostitutes will take your money for sex", I'm realizing that the outpouring of cats that jacked the pussy prices in the CR and DR are making their way to MDE. Coming unexpectedly next weekend because of Castro's death fucking up my Havana trip, but I think I'll make my base La 70 this go-around. And maybe start falling back to Bogota or Cali in the future.

[Judd]

We were there, last Friday, from 10 in the PM til round 1 in the AM. We stepped out for 1/2 hour to check out Macaibo. Not much there. They had just finished with their two chica shaving cream show. Me being the stupid gringo, thought it was whipped cream. Asked for a shot in the mouth, and quickly realized my error. Took about a day and half to get that taste out of my mouth. Live and learn!


What time did you go? Went 12:30 am it was packed. But it had some shady dudes as well.

[YippieKayay]

What should the going rate be these days?I went back 15 pages to find this:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1955076&viewfull=1#post1955076.

[Chesscat]

La 70 is super nice; Energy is nearby!! Places to eat, ambience, drinks with your friends, way better than Lleras. I've got a friend in Bogota right now, he is killing it!!


No fucking joke, I was looking at the same shit bewildered. Between this guy, Thedman, and Mr. "if you have enough confidence prostitutes will take your money for sex", I'm realizing that the outpouring of cats that jacked the pussy prices in the CR and DR are making their way to MDE. Coming unexpectedly next weekend because of Castro's death fucking up my Havana trip, but I think I'll make my base La 70 this go-around. And maybe start falling back to Bogota or Cali in the future.

[Combo]

La 70 is super nice; Energy is nearby!! Places to eat, ambience, drinks with your friends, way better than Lleras. I've got a friend in Bogota right now, he is killing it!!I love La Setenta / Estadio / Laureles. However your typical monger is generally not going to like the area as much as Poblado / Parque Lleras.


Anybody who takes money BEforE sex is a prepago.Strictly defined, you're right. However, the term is commonly used for any girl where both parties know beforehand that money will be exchanged explicitly for sex (regardless of whether the money exchange is after or before the act).

[Judd]

Hola Dudes,

Here's a rundown of the chicas I've nailed so far at New Life.

Sophia.

Somewhat tall chica with long dark hair, complexion on the darker side, full Cee size real rack, and a good size ass. Was recommended by another board. Service was just okay.

Eveline.

Sandy blonde hair, short spinner, with nice be cup rack, and a good firm round ass. First time, her service was excellent. 2nd time, last week, complained about licking her tits, and asked to slow down in doggy. Did the tip in the mouth, swirl tongue BJ method. Asked for a tip which I politely declined to give since service was no bueno.

Karla.

Tall with straight black hair, beautiful face, very curvaceous body. The problem with Karla is her service was not very good given how attractive she looks during the lineup. I had her when I was here in October. When I arrived again in November, I didn't realize I picked her again. A little thick once she took off her clothes. Service was the same. Okay BJ, but did the ole humpback thing when she got into doggy.

Lorena.

Black hair, round face, big enhanced borderline Dee size tits, with a really big round ass. The thing with Lorena, she appears to be kinda big during the walk thru. However, when the clothes are off, she has it going on! Great personality. Eager to please. Enjoyed the hard bang. Excellent overall service.

Julie / a.

Tall slim morena. She has a Caribbean look to her with pretty blue eyes, and braces. Nice flowing body with one of those runner type asses. She was really excited to bang this gringo. Fantastic BJ, and would've finished me off it was a BBBJ. Energetic sex to say the least. Fun Fact: She likes her clit massaged with the tip of your dick. A+++ service!

Late,

Judd.

[Maasi42]

Hola Dudes,

Here's a rundown of the chicas I've nailed so far at New Life.

Sophia.

Somewhat tall chica with long dark hair, complexion on the darker side, full Cee size real rack, and a good size ass. Was recommended by another board. Service was just okay.

Eveline.

Sandy blonde hair, short spinner, with nice be cup rack, and a good firm round ass. First time, her service was excellent. 2nd time, last week, complained about licking her tits, and asked to slow down in doggy. Did the tip in the mouth, swirl tongue BJ method. Asked for a tip which I politely declined to give since service was no bueno..I arrived in Medellin a week ago I went to some strip club it was good. Where are the casa's where you can see a lineup of girls?

[Thedman]

Thanks Juice. I got called out for paying too much. I researched a lot before my trip. A lot!

For FB girls to come to you, 150 k seemed the going rate on average. I saw this over many posts.

That's what I offered and felt for what I received, an 8+ to my place on request plus a great GFE, it was appropriate.

I guess there will always those haters who are always going to hate. Maybe $10 either way is life or death for them. Too bad for them.


I went back 15 pages to find this:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1955076&viewfull=1#post1955076.

[Turgid]

I arrived in Medellin a week ago I went to some strip club it was good. Where are the casa's where you can see a lineup of girls?Check Abydos, (Massage, etc.) Avenida 33 # 64-198.12-15 Chicas. Prices: 100 k 30 min. 120 k hour, Take Out __k hour. Tel: 235 30 31. Hours: Monday to Saturday 11 am to 9 pm, and don't forget to report back to us.

[Corpo]

Thanks Juice. I got called out for paying too much. I researched a lot before my trip. A lot!

For FB girls to come to you, 150 k seemed the going rate on average. I saw this over many posts.

That's what I offered and felt for what I received, an 8+ to my place on request plus a great GFE, it was appropriate.

I guess there will always those haters who are always going to hate. Maybe $10 either way is life or death for them. Too bad for them.How are you locating the semi-pro or pro girls through FB?