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YippieKayay
03-20-17, 16:34
Is that because of the phone company's SIM you use (Tigo, Movistar, Claro)?
I have a Tigo SIM and as far as I know my leftover data expires after a couple months.Could someone post some clarity on this? If I buy a prepaid card I now have to register with a cedula? Does this mean a passport or any form of ID (not Colombian)?
Wow, who does that? What's the profile, someone who has lots of money but cannot risk a flight to SA; has lots of money but no idea of the scene the rest of the world has available? On the surface it sounds like LOSER. Poor f--ker. "dumbass".
I have a good friend who traveled with us one time and did not take to the lifestyle. He loves porn, love the ladies, always wants to get laid. Yet knowing what's available still opts for trying to find girls in his small town or travels to Vegas once in a while and spends a couple grand in strip clubs. It's beyond my comprehension.Please don't bring your friend back.
KeeperNight4
03-20-17, 21:33
Could someone post some clarity on this? If I buy a prepaid card I now have to register with a cedula? Does this mean a passport or any form of ID (not Colombian)?After 2-3 weeks you need to have cell phone registered using cedula. Some people say can register with USA Passport using 611 Customer service with claro. I'm still trying to figure it out.
It's a good hustle that's been around in various forms since the first cheap webcams and internet access. In the 90's you would find places around Latin America with a Internet access PCs in booths (sometimes with curtains for heavy porn watchers) and phone booths in the front room and a back room with girls doing cam gigs. The marketing changes but it's the same hustle. It works from many angles. Some girls prefer it because they know the worse they can catch is itchy pussy from the chair they sit in. LOL!
There is a guide to love motels on the Medellin Living site. Google will take you right to it.
Comments on Tip #3:
There are several webcam sites, besides Chaturbate and you can find quite a few Colombianas on each of them. The largest number of them are in Medellin and there are several studios in Medellin. A couple of the studios are quite large, large enough to have their own booth at adult expo shows in the US and elsewhere.
The amount the studio takes varies from studio to studio. The more successful studios have a sizable investment in each model. You'll not find many takers from those studios, and if you do, expect a big price tag. The reason is simple: money. A popular webcam model is pulling $200 - $2000 USD in 4 hours. That puts them from $40 k to $400 k USD per year..
Also I can't do 100 pushups like Wolf.Wakes up- "eh, uh, what?
Oh, that, I started last summer, could do 20 max-LOL- did them every night for a week and then added 5 more. Added 5 every week after till I got to 100. Not huge but bigger them most the local dudes, esp the poor ones who want to rob you & don't have a proper diet. Here's the stupid temp Panther tattoo my date got me in Parque Boston. That's the 5th floor of the Botero, by the elevator.
Could someone post some clarity on this? If I buy a prepaid card I now have to register with a cedula? Does this mean a passport or any form of ID (not Colombian)?I bought a SIM card from Tigo about a week ago, and they asked for ID. I handed them a copy of my passport (the page with the relevant info) and they accepted it.
Heading to Medellin next week. Unfortunately, I will not be staying at the mansion but want to check out the casa scene. If you guys have any casas you want to recommend that I should hit up, let me know and I will write a report on it. I speak fluid spanish so getting information about specific casas should not be a problem for me. I will mostly be using the forum and World Travel map as primary resources and probably what the cab drivers recommend as places to check out first.
Hi guys,
Just finished a fun tour of SE Asia (see my trip reports) and off to Medellin next.
I was wondering what part of town I should book in? I won't be bringing girls back. I'm going to be hosteling Airbnb but I need just a few good recommendations for parts of town.
Black Page
03-21-17, 11:48
dded 5 every week after till I got to 100. Not huge but bigger them most the local dudes, esp the poor ones who want to rob you & don't have a proper diet. Impressive, but not especially effective to counter those who cannot opt for the low-carb diet but have a 15 cm knife or gun in the back pocket.
Black Page
03-21-17, 11:56
Is that because of the phone company's SIM you use (Tigo, Movistar, Claro)?
I have a Tigo SIM and as far as I know my leftover data expires after a couple months.It's that I bought my SIM card (Movistar) several years ago, when they did not force expiration after few months without using and topping up. Any SIM card bought today expires as yours. I am keeping my old SIM card as gold.
Also, others talk about registering the "cell phone" with an ID. I am not in Colombia now and I cannot check personally how it works, but I would reasonably say that it's the SIM CARD that you need to register, not certainly the phone. It's possible in theory to register the IMEI of a phone associating it to a legitimate ID, to prevent theft or illegal usage, but as far as I know nobody does that in the world. Even the "black list" of stolen phones, supposedly managed and shared by operators, is not effective to prevent frauds and thefts. If they steal your phone, you will use the manufacturer feature to lock it from remote.
It's a good hustle that's been around in various forms since the first cheap webcams and internet access. In the 90's you would find places around Latin America with a Internet access PCs in booths (sometimes with curtains for heavy porn watchers) and phone booths in the front room and a back room with girls doing cam gigs. The marketing changes but it's the same hustle. It works from many angles. Some girls prefer it because they know the worse they can catch is itchy pussy from the chair they sit in. LOL!I think you'll find it's come a long, long way since then. The top models in the US are making $1 million (that's dollars) per year. Top models in Colombia are pulling half that, but with cost of living difference, it's about the same money. The big studios have annual payrolls of $10 - $20 million, just for support personnel, that doesn't include the models. They are using professional makeup artists, hairdressers, decorators and theatrical directors. Instead of grubby little backrooms they're set up in Poblado and Laureles.
There are still the grubby little backroom, with a mattress on the floor and a cheap laptop, run by wannabe pimps, but they are struggling to make $50/ day.
I wouldn't call it a hustle. There's a market. Whenever there's a market, someone is going to take advantage of it. Medellin is a good spot to fill that market. Cost of living is low, available standard of living is high, there is an abundant supply of young, beautiful women and the sex tourism helps drive the women to the studios.
An estrato 2 or 3 girl is going to be stuck as a hairdresser or waitress. No real hope of anything better, unless she starts selling herself. Then she can afford an estrato 6 lifestyle. Given the choice of making the same money sitting in front of a computer or laying under an old, fat gringo, what will most chicas choose?
Of course, until they can afford a laptop and high speed internet, they don't have the webcam option.
Impressive, but not especially effective to counter those who cannot opt for the low-carb diet but have a 15 cm knife or gun in the back pocket.Oh yeah if there's a weapon involved just hand over the money. I do t more for the girl's, on the Sugar Baby sites they see your pic too.
I think you'll find it's come a long, long way since then. The top models in the US are making $1 million (that's dollars) per year. Top models in Colombia are pulling half that, but with cost of living difference, it's about the same money. The big studios have annual payrolls of $10 - $20 million, just for support personnel, that doesn't include the models. They are using professional makeup artists, hairdressers, decorators and theatrical directors. Instead of grubby little backrooms they're set up in Poblado and Laureles.Sounds incredible, almost ridiculous. But I guess it could be. It must be a little known secret or why wouldn't most of the best looking girls in MDE be doing it? $500 k x two years and she's done. House paid, money banked. Myself, I have never seen a webcam site.
YippieKayay
03-21-17, 18:16
An estrato 2 or 3 girl is going to be stuck as a hairdresser or waitress. No real hope of anything better, unless she starts selling herself. Then she can afford an estrato 6 lifestyle. Given the choice of making the same money sitting in front of a computer or laying under an old, fat gringo, what will most chicas choose?
Of course, until they can afford a laptop and high speed internet, they don't have the webcam option.She'll continue doing it the wrong way and make less. You guys always assume these prepagos have business savvy. Most of them have a novio who is busy spending their money. I remember this one prepago kept telling me she was a 'money making machine' like she was proud of it. She couldn't even afford underwear and she was a good looking girl too. The boyfriend spent almost every dime she earned.
She'll continue doing it the wrong way and make less. You guys always assume these prepagos have business savvy. Most of them have a novio who is busy spending their money. I remember this one prepago kept telling me she was a 'money making machine' like she was proud of it. She couldn't even afford underwear and she was a good looking girl too. The boyfriend spent almost every dime she earned.Curious. How did you know it was a boyfriend? I knew a girl who would make decent money from me during a couple of my trips then act like she was broke within a couple of weeks. I knew she would see other guys as well so figured she was making plenty of money overall. I just could never understand how she would have spent all her money without paying for the things that were important- apartment, child, etc. I knew she was telling the truth about her money being gone because she couldn't even afford a few bucks for phone data. I asked if she had a BF taking her money, she said "no, never". I think they are just live-for-the-day people that tend to waste money on crap then get desperate. It's baffling.
She'll continue doing it the wrong way and make less. You guys always assume these prepagos have business savvy. Most of them have a novio who is busy spending their money. I remember this one prepago kept telling me she was a 'money making machine' like she was proud of it. She couldn't even afford underwear and she was a good looking girl too. The boyfriend spent almost every dime she earned.I know of one cam girl, who was making good money, until her boyfriend talked her into becoming a prepago. Last I heard she was making less and still with the BF.
I know one camgirl who is supporting 2 family members, living in a great place, with about $50 k USD in the bank, no debt and a growing business. Her boyfriend has a solid, well paid job and doesn't get 1 peso.
Most have no concept of money and no business skills. Some have a lot of business savvy.
YippieKayay
03-21-17, 19:44
Curious. How did you know it was a boyfriend?It was pretty obvious at the start. She had his photos on her phone (lots of them), on facebook etc. She would say "good friend. " She wouldn't say "mi amigo. " It was a line he taught her to use with gringos. I know some of her family and they told me they knew he was always using her. I believe the term is 'gastar su ahorro' or 'spend her savings. ' I found it amusing they believe she had like a savings account with money in it. The girl never worked a day in her life. The thing about Colombians is they will accept a fantastical lie over looking at the truth. So their fake-boobed niece was actually working a respectable job despite always being on vacation somewhere, while the evil boyfriend never worked and spent her money. I think that was the fantasy her aunt had.
Anyway this was a long time ago. I didn't stay in touch.
I knew she was telling the truth about her money being gone because she couldn't even afford a few bucks for phone data. I asked if she had a BF taking her money, she said "no, never". I think they are just live-for-the-day people that tend to waste money on crap then get desperate. It's baffling.
I'm not calling her a liar although she probably was. They probably managed their money like idiots and the novio likely had a drug problem.
EDIT: BTW, if you're wondering if theprepago you're fucking regularly has a boyfriend the answer is 'yes she does. she absolutely does.' If she has a kid then its the kids father. If she was married then its her ex husband who pops in and out of her life. If not then its some guy who is fucking her and some other girls. They always have a boyfriend. Every last one of them. Sometimes the boyfriend knows and sometimes he doesn't. Thats the only difference.
It's that I bought my SIM card (Movistar) several years ago, when they did not force expiration after few months without using and topping up. Any SIM card bought today expires as yours. I am keeping my old SIM card as gold.
Also, others talk about registering the "cell phone" with an ID. I am not in Colombia now and I cannot check personally how it works, but I would reasonably say that it's the SIM CARD that you need to register, not certainly the phone. It's possible in theory to register the IMEI of a phone associating it to a legitimate ID, to prevent theft or illegal usage, but as far as I know nobody does that in the world. Even the "black list" of stolen phones, supposedly managed and shared by operators, is not effective to prevent frauds and thefts. If they steal your phone, you will use the manufacturer feature to lock it from remote.If your phone sim is claro you need to register your unlocked cell phone if you didn't buy it from them. I started getting text messages that I was going to be blocked in 5 days if I didn't come in and register the phone. But I also had issues when I first got the sim card I did it with a drivers license. They used my street address as my first name. I became Jefferson in the system. Had to bring in a copy of that drivers license to get it changed. I am so set now. Tigo doesn't make you do this. Neither does the sim card you can buy at exito movil exito sim. Most carriers want to see ID to buy a sim card. Claro wants to see either bill of sale for US phone or they might block your IMEI.
After 2-3 weeks you need to have cell phone registered using cedula. Some people say can register with USA Passport using 611 Customer service with claro. I'm still trying to figure it out.I went in to there office in one of the main malls in town. Took 5 minutes. USA passport was fine.
Here's a handy how to add data to your smart phone. Both claro and tigo use the same process. After putting money on your cell phone. Dial *611#.
A box will open. Press 1 for Paq Datos. And hit send.
Another box will open. I press 1 for Paq datos cobro unica vez and hit send.
Next menu asks do you have a smart phone, blackberry. I press 1 for smart phone and hit send.
Next menu shows a 1 day pack, but I want other options so I press 2 for Mas Paquetes. And hit send.
Next menu is 1 DIA, 2 semana, 3 for 2 week 4 is month. You pick the one that you need, and hit send.
I pressed 2 for semana for the week and it shows that its 15,000 pesos. I press 1 hit send.
Next menu asks to confirm it. You do and you are all set. For the week as long as you have 15,000 on phone.
If there is another plan in operation that will finish and then this will start.
GringoTigre
03-22-17, 00:14
The camgirl topic pivoted into a few interesting different dimensions.
Just like there are prepagos from agencies on the upper end who ask in excess of US rates*, there are camgirls and sites on the high end. Livejasmin is certainly one example. Sure chatturbate has some stars as well, but unlike some sites, there is a huge cross section of all types there.
*of course there is a huge difference in raw material quality between US and COL for the same $.
I know of one cam girl, who was making good money, until her boyfriend talked her into becoming a prepago. Last I heard she was making less and still with the BF.
I know one camgirl who is supporting 2 family members, living in a great place, with about $50 k USD in the bank, no debt and a growing business. Her boyfriend has a solid, well paid job and doesn't get 1 peso.
Most have no concept of money and no business skills. Some have a lot of business savvy.
Can't you buy SIM cards with Data plans like in Panama from a Vending machine.
Here's a handy how to add data to your smart phone. Both claro and tigo use the same process. After putting money on your cell phone. Dial *611#.
A box will open. Press 1 for Paq Datos. And hit send.
Another box will open. I press 1 for Paq datos cobro unica vez and hit send.
Next menu asks do you have a smart phone, blackberry. I press 1 for smart phone and hit send.
Next menu shows a 1 day pack, but I want other options so I press 2 for Mas Paquetes. And hit send.
Next menu is 1 DIA, 2 semana, 3 for 2 week 4 is month. You pick the one that you need, and hit send.
I pressed 2 for semana for the week and it shows that its 15,000 pesos. I press 1 hit send.
Next menu asks to confirm it. You do and you are all set. For the week as long as you have 15,000 on phone.
If there is another plan in operation that will finish and then this will start.
Can't you buy SIM cards with Data plans like in Panama from a Vending machine.No that would be to easy. Colombia is all about the two step process.
No that would be to easy. Colombia is all about the two step process.Inefficient and dumbfounding. You check in at the store, wait, then eventually get called to sit at a desk with an employee. That person slowly prepares the requisition of what you are purchasing and sends you to a payment line. It might only be 3 people deep but you will stand in that line for 20 minutes. Meanwhile, your original employee gets that time to sit and do nothing but wait on you. It's free time for that person. They do nothing but wait on you to come back with proof of purchase, finish your deal, send you on your way. Makes no sense but they think it's normal.
Between the supermarkets and phone stores Colombians must spend a third of their days waiting in lines.
I'll be in Medellin from April 7 to April 23 so anybody can PM me if they wish to contact me for whatever.
About cell phones: I went to Claro in a Mall around San Diego, Medellin last December, bought a phone and sim no problem with my passport. Get the phones at a big Claro, etc. Mega center and have them do all the work setup or adding minutes. Its better than buying a phone at a Bodega.
About prepagos, excellent posts in the last few pages! One of the funnest things in the world is to have a stunning beauty in bed and you are all over her while she answers the phone and its her boyfriend and she speaks like she is at the Mall. Prepagos see their sex work as normal work, so calling a boyfriend from another man's bed is just like you calling your wife from the office. If a guy just pays the prepago and respects her it will be fine in most cases. Its when a gringo chooses to pry into her personal business or to get closer to her that all the problems for the gringo start. Many beautiful prepagos work only daytime hours so you wonder what they do at night. Probably not Bible study or puzzle building.
Inefficient and dumbfounding. You check in at the store, wait, then eventually get called to sit at a desk with an employee. That person slowly prepares the requisition of what you are purchasing and sends you to a payment line. It might only be 3 people deep but you will stand in that line for 20 minutes. Meanwhile, your original employee gets that time to sit and do nothing but wait on you. It's free time for that person. They do nothing but wait on you to come back with proof of purchase, finish your deal, send you on your way. Makes no sense but they think it's normal.
Between the supermarkets and phone stores Colombians must spend a third of their days waiting in lines.100% correct. Phone store. Ok you go pay for that SIM card why I sit here and look at my what's app. Once you come back off that line I'll install your SIM card after I see your receipt. Just a extra un-needed step because of no trust. This is why families wait on three different lines at supermarket. I always get on the wrong line where the guy is putting minutes on phone and making a payment on his xito charge card. Going to the bank. Better bring a Magazine cause you can't use your phone while waiting. Still, I'm happier here then in the states where I'm invisible.
Inefficient and dumbfounding. You check in at the store, wait, then eventually get called to sit at a desk with an employee. That person slowly prepares the requisition of what you are purchasing and sends you to a payment line. It might only be 3 people deep but you will stand in that line for 20 minutes. Meanwhile, your original employee gets that time to sit and do nothing but wait on you. It's free time for that person. They do nothing but wait on you to come back with proof of purchase, finish your deal, send you on your way. Makes no sense but they think it's normal.
Between the supermarkets and phone stores Colombians must spend a third of their days waiting in lines.The waits at supermarkets in Medellin and Santo Domingo are ridiculous. I am in Hong Kong now and the line at the supermarket could be 15 persons deep and you will be out of there in 5 minutes.
YippieKayay
03-23-17, 16:49
The waits at supermarkets in Medellin and Santo Domingo are ridiculous. I am in Hong Kong now and the line at the supermarket could be 15 persons deep and you will be out of there in 5 minutes.Look at GDP per capita of Hong Kong vesus Colombia That says it all. It's like 5 times more.
Look at GDP per capita of Hong Kong vesus Colombia That says it all. It's like 5 times more.I do not mean to harp on this because I know it is not what the forum is about. But so many times I am in line waiting to check out for something and I cannot believe how slowly even the checkers move to ring up groceries. How can the Colombians be so patient?
Sometimes I ask a girl if she will stay at least as long as it takes to check out at a grocery store just to know she will be with me for an hour or two.
Heading to Medellin next Wednesday with mis hermanos for primero tiempo( My brothers for the first time). Any good local bars to check out. Habla poco. Gracias amigos.
Fuck so called strip clubs. The girls are mostly rude obnoxious worn out hags. There is almost no dancing. The clubs are outdated, uncomfortable chairs. There no point to give them any business. There are very rare exceptions to this. One lazy ***** dared to ask me for an unearned tip and when I coldly refused started insulting me. Then I just stood up and left to cool down. In a perfect world she would get a deserved response, but hey it's their country.What clubs were you at exactly?
I felt just the opposite, I loved their clubs, I was in 4 clubs in Centro- Barre Ejecutiva & Maracibo, Conijetas & Grille Nueva Avenida. (last one is next door to Conijetas) No cover, cheap drinks, enough cute chicks. Hey I only need one and their was 3+ hot ones each time in Ejecutiva & Conijetas, didn't pull from the other 2 places. Looked to be close to 50 girls at Conejitas on the Sat night I was there. And BE had 3 hotties on a Monday night!
Unlike the street girls or Casa girls I could sit and have a drink with a few girls and see who seemed more cool / sweet / into it / fun and who seemed a stone cold bit*h. (I suppose you could have a drink 1st with the street girls but it might cost more then the session. LOL) Added bonus seeing them semi-naked on stage for further examination. 50,000 club fee to leave. $16?
Much better for me then 12 girls walking by me in a Casa and I have to pick based on looks alone, less likely to find chemistry for the TLN girl that way especially.
I do not mean to harp on this because I know it is not what the forum is about. But so many times I am in line waiting to check out for something and I cannot believe how slowly even the checkers move to ring up groceries. How can the Colombians be so patient?
Sometimes I ask a girl if she will stay at least as long as it takes to check out at a grocery store just to know she will be with me for an hour or two.Glad I am not the only one that drove crazy, the Tienda-D1 on Carr51 next to Nutribarra in Centro I went in like 5 times and turned and left, 20-30 people in a slow moving line every time.
1 cash register open, 4 to 5 other employees standing strategically about the store for stock-loss prevention.
I go 3 blocks away to the TiendaD1 across from Parque Bolivar on Carr49 and it's empty, no line. The other one is right between 2 subway stations though.
So tip, if staying in Hotel Botero or close, walk to Parque Bolivar to shop.
It's the relative pace of progress. In regions where there are no supermarkets, the wait to buy the same goods is even longer because the buyers and sellers socialize and haggle during the transaction. In a more developed country like Hong Kong or Singapore, check out clerks can complete each transaction without asking questions that their Latin American counterparts have to ask:
- do you need a copy of your receipt?
- are you a member of our buyer's club?
- what is your telephone number?
- do you need a tax receipt?
- should I divide the total for you?
- is this a credit card or a debit card?
- what are the last 4 digits of the account number?
Honestly, I've purchased real estate with fewer conversations.
The waits at supermarkets in Medellin and Santo Domingo are ridiculous. I am in Hong Kong now and the line at the supermarket could be 15 persons deep and you will be out of there in 5 minutes.
IMHO, I would avoid hobbying in Mayorista since you don't speak fluent Espanol and don't look like a local. There have been robberies of tourist gringos and locals too. Why risk it! I went there only once before, did alright. But I speak Espanol, and have not returned for a second visit yet. Wasn't to impressed with the talent I saw that night. Have fun, but need to feel safe!Mayorista years ago used to be a lot better than it is know, however I don't consider it anymore dangerous than El Centro.
YippieKayay
03-24-17, 20:16
Mayorista years ago used to be a lot better than it is know, however I don't consider it anymore dangerous than El Centro.How so? What changed?
I'm going to be in Medellin in a few weeks. Last time I went I got bored because I thought the action would be around parque lleras, and I'm not up for bothering with the fb thing or the Mansion. Centro by day, and Mayorista by night are in my sights now. What surprises me is its almost never mentioned in this thread despite Mayorista being so close to El Poblado.
If you get bored at Mayorista I'd cab to Conejitas or Barre Ejectiva.
How so? What changed?
I'm going to be in Medellin in a few weeks. Last time I went I got bored because I thought the action would be around parque lleras, and I'm not up for bothering with the fb thing or the Mansion. Centro by day, and Mayorista by night are in my sights now. What surprises me is its almost never mentioned in this thread despite Mayorista being so close to El Poblado.
Manizales911
03-24-17, 22:52
How so? What changed? When they banned the use of tables and chairs from the sidewalk it changed the vibe of the place completely, it has never been the same since.
The Exitos are good and have efficient check out lines, but they close earlier than TiendasD1.
Glad I am not the only one that drove crazy, the Tienda-D1 on Carr51 next to Nutribarra in Centro I went in like 5 times and turned and left, 20-30 people in a slow moving line every time.
1 cash register open, 4 to 5 other employees standing strategically about the store for stock-loss prevention.
I go 3 blocks away to the TiendaD1 across from Parque Bolivar on Carr49 and it's empty, no line. The other one is right between 2 subway stations though.
So tip, if staying in Hotel Botero or close, walk to Parque Bolivar to shop.
ColombiaLover
03-25-17, 04:38
I used to enjoy Mayorista. Got some diamonds in the rough for a cheap price, with good service. The vibe has changed with the removal of tables and chairs from the sidewalk. As far as security, back in the day there were always police around. So it was fairly safe. Not sure if that's the case now. The negative. Lots of [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) chicas lurking in the shadows. The hotels could care less about their age, so you were on your own to check ID. Keeping in mind the policy were there. So, for me, that was the biggest risk. If you could not tell a real cedula from something fake.
How so? What changed?
I'm going to be in Medellin in a few weeks. Last time I went I got bored because I thought the action would be around parque lleras, and I'm not up for bothering with the fb thing or the Mansion. Centro by day, and Mayorista by night are in my sights now. What surprises me is its almost never mentioned in this thread despite Mayorista being so close to El Poblado.
YippieKayay
03-25-17, 12:12
The hotels could care less about their age, so you were on your own to check ID. Keeping in mind the policy were there. So, for me, that was the biggest risk. If you could not tell a real cedula from something fake.This is a real fucking problem in Medellin. Even in Colombian Cupid I was contacted by a couple of chicas that looked way too young. I told them to stick to guys their own age and get off the site. I'm more of a MILF man myself. I prefer them over 25 just as they start putting on the pounds which is why I want to try street meat this time. Everytime someone here posts about chicas being 'fat' I take notes haha.
This is a real fucking problem in Medellin. Even in Colombian Cupid I was contacted by a couple of chicas that looked way too young. I told them to stick to guys their own age and get off the site. I'm more of a MILF man myself. I prefer them over 25 just as they start putting on the pounds which is why I want to try street meat this time. Everytime someone here posts about chicas being 'fat' I take notes haha.Yes, it's a problem and you must be careful and check cedula carefully. But, there is nothing in the world like a sweet smelling 18 year old pussy trying to please you.
Heading to Medellin next Wednesday with mis hermanos for primero tiempo( My brothers for the first time). Any good local bars to check out. Habla poco. Gracias amigos.Bars in Medellin are nothing like bars in the US. People usually go to bars in a group or with family. Its not pick up culture at all. It's a waste of time if you ask my opinion. Colombians are actually much more conservative than Americans regarding things like that. If you want to fuck women, it's easier and more fun to just get the independant putas or strip club / casa girls.
EDIT: BTW, if you're wondering if theprepago you're fucking regularly has a boyfriend the answer is 'yes she does. she absolutely does.' If she has a kid then its the kids father. If she was married then its her ex husband who pops in and out of her life. If not then its some guy who is fucking her and some other girls. They always have a boyfriend. Every last one of them. Sometimes the boyfriend knows and sometimes he doesn't. Thats the only difference.Funny how gringos who travel to a country a few times per year, speak hardly any Spanish (less than needed to have an intelligent conversation), and now are experts on the country's culture.
The quoted statement above is pure speculation. I agree with what somebody else has already said that many of these prepagos just blow through money on their own, they don't need a local novio to waste all their money. Makeup, cell phones, beauty salons, powdered sugar / weed (not all do it but many do), etc. all add up quickly.
As for the webcams. I never got the fascination. The guys that log on to these sites and spend money (any money) are total LOSERS. They either have no social skills, some kind of complex about being seen as "rich", have a tiny dick (makes them afraid of real women). Yes, due to the numbers of these losers, I believe that there are really good looking women who make a buttload, but 400 k / year. PLEASE!
Manizales911
03-25-17, 18:15
. The guys that log on to these sites and spend money (any money) are total LOSERS.And a monger that pays to have sex because he can't get laid on his own merits is any less of a loser, give me a fucking break.
PepolesBuddy
03-25-17, 18:45
Gents?
Which is better SA or Colombian Cupid? Just got back from Medellin and had authentic non prepago real GFE with two paisas via SA. They treated me like a king, spent the day with me and gave me a local experience and of course total GFE in bed. I like that Colombian Cupid is much cheaper. Thoughts? And the best part was, they didn't have a price that wanted. They both just told me to give whatever I wanted.
As for the webcams. I never got the fascination. The guys that log on to these sites and spend money (any money) are total LOSERS. They either have no social skills, some kind of complex about being seen as "rich", have a tiny dick (makes them afraid of real women). Yes, due to the numbers of these losers, I believe that there are really good looking women who make a buttload, but 400 k / year. PLEASE!The same can be said about anything. The people who are interested in it are total LOSERS. Going to a movie? Loser! Going to a club? Loser! Going to a casa? Loser! Whatever you are doing, somebody thinks you're stupid for doing it.
I've been around the webcam thing since before there was a webcam thing. It started with a program called CuSeeMe. I used it throughout the 90's. I had a lot of free time, with no cheap options, so I hooked up a camera and chatted. Over a 6 year period, I met about 100 people, most of them women and most of those gave me a warm bed whenever I was in their area. Over those 6 years, I probably spent $500 and got laid maybe 300 times, from about 40 different women. The money spent was on dinners, drinks, sometimes on cover charges or movies. To offset it, I got about 100 free meals.
Then commercial webcam sites came along. Women who were putting on sex shows for free began getting paid for it. Women who were getting paid for sex, started getting paid for sex shows. But the early webcam sites were just like porn, no interaction, no dialogue. The webcam companies made money, but the models didn't make much. Then smarter webcam models came along. They are more than a naked body on a mattress.
To put it in familiar terms:
You can get a woman off the street for 20 k and a 10 min BJ. You can spend 70 k for a fuck, or 150 k, or 1,000 k. And yes there are prepagos asking and getting that much per hour. Is the guy spending $300/ hour The loser, because he could have spent $7 for a BJ? Or is the other the loser for missing out on an hour with an intelligent, beautiful artist? Are they all losers because a winner could get a sex crazed 10 without paying?
Today's top webcam models are intelligent, fluent in more than one language, well educated and experts at what they do. It pays off. $200+ per hour is common, most of It coming from a handful of people. Do the math and a 20 hour week turns into $200 k.
Over a 3 year period I've seen 1 guy spend almost $200 k US on one model. Maybe he's just pretending to be rich. If so, it's a good act. Maybe he has no social skills, but his career requires a lot of communication with customers. I've got no opinion on the size of his dick. I've watched others spend a lot over a few months and disappear. Some just spend a little for a long time.
What I do is talk to these guys. I tell jokes, I provide extra entertainment, because a models body gets a bit boring after awhile. By providing conversation, the model is more than just another naked woman.
From years of talking with these guys, some are losers, some have no social skills, some are pretending to be something they aren't and some have tiny dicks. Most of them are just normal guys who prefer a different kind of entertainment.
You don't have to believe that there are Colombian models making $400 k / year. You don't have to believe there are Colombian models paying me to move to Medellin, or that I'll be moving into a Poblado high-rise in 15 days to help Colombian models make more money. You can even believe I'm a loser.
But it won't change my view, or my income.
My Centro Street guide- (posted most of this in earlier posts but not all in one spot-gathered in 5 days of endless wandering around Centro by myself March of '17).
1. Behind the small white church-Iglesia De La Veracruz-Calle51/ Carr53 -just SE of Plaza Botero.
More young ones in this crowd, ID check a good idea, some trannies too- so penis check also. Starts at pay-phones in front of church and goes around block clockwise on 3 sides till the museum is on your left. Most the glue huffers are in front of / alongside the church. More trannies in this group too. Some of the trannies are convincing little spinners so make sure you are getting what you want. Several little bars along east side of Car53 between Cal51 & 52 with girls in the bar or doorways. Lots just leaning against the walls around the block too. I usually had to do a few laps and sometimes come back in a bit to find one I wanted.
I was quoted 30,000 p including room from the 4 chicks I was with there (3 chicks, one girl-boy. I ask more questions now. Then Oh!) The rooms weren't that bad, shower, fan, porno TV in some. The rooms we used were upstairs in the middle of the block on Carr53, east side, several working girls standing in the entrance and stairwell. (which is fun if you are only up there for 5 min and leave with a girl / boy. LOL) Even at 8 am on a Tuesday there were 15+ girls out, by 9 am I found a hottie so good place for a quickie before airport run, airport buses about 2-1/2 blocks away behind the Nutibara which is across from Parque Botero. Shower's a plus for your fellow travellers.
Another working hotel with girls in the door across the street to the right on Carr53. The 18-20 yo ones seemed to hang more around the SE corner of Car53 & Cal 52. Card this group for sure.
2. Raudal-and. 3 - NW corner Calle 53 & Carr 54.
Around Raudal-and. 3 More older 20+pros in this bunch, more hooker outfits, little scarier then the church block, more locals loitering / drinking, less commercial shopping foot traffic. I didn't particularly like this block while by myself, felt too many eyes on me. Also you can't just circle the block like at Veracruz, the surrounding blocks are a little scarier. (more trash, homeless, less people).
Most the action here is from the NW corner of Cal53/ Car54 and down the Car54 to the right (north) with bars and a love hotel with girls in the doorway on the west side of the road. Also some across the street / in bars and down Cal53 (Ave De Greiff) towards Parque Botero on the and side of the road. Also 3 "strip" clubs in 2 blocks there, Taberna Victoria at Cal 53#52 a-26 that I didn't go in and Conejitas & Grille Nueva Avenida which I did, liked Conejitas, the other one so / so (didn't see any hot chicks at the time in that one but cheap I bet), both across and NW of Plaza Botero on Cal53/ DeGreiff. At the NW end of Car54 at Cal54 is the Hotel Eros which is a nice love hotel with jacuzzis and steam rooms.
http://sexosentido.co/hotel-eros-medellin/ 3 more strip clubs in a few blocks with Barra Ejectiva I recommend and Maracaibo and Bar Occidental that I don't. (didn't get down to Occidental, street looked a little lonely at night.).
3. Parque Bolivar. Car49, west side park, from Cal54 up to and west on Cal55, and a bit right / north on Car50.
Much higher trannie rate I think but some females also, saw one smoking hot in the doorway to the Hotel Metropolitano on Cal54 at Car49 but was otw somewhere. Another working girl love hotel on s side of cal55 just w of car49. More weekend nights here then day, but saw a few in the day. Usually lots of cops in the park but scarier as you go west on Cal55. There is a nicer love hotel across the street from the park you could go to also, Hotel Life, NE corner of park, on Ave Oriental & Cal56, Theme rooms with 42 "LCD TV-Adult Channel-Mp4-Fan-Phone-Jacuzzi-Chair of Love Kamasutra-Hot water-Wifi. This area has the advantage of about 8 daytime Casa's in a 5 block radius or so, starting with New Life & Linda Chicas.
http://sexosentido.co/hotel-life-medellin/
A nicer looking Love Hotel-Spazios is on Cal57 directly behind the big brick church, the Catedral Basílica Metropolitana de Medellínon at Parque Bolivar. The jacuzzi theme rooms there start at 26,000 p.
http://sexosentido.co/hotel-spazios-medellin/
I don't recommend any of this area to non-Spanish speakers who look like tourists & who'd be easy to rob / assault / pickpocket. (except cabbing to the Casa's).
I am sure some of the regulars to Medellin can add, help correct to this info.
This is a real fucking problem in Medellin. Even in Colombian Cupid I was contacted by a couple of chicas that looked way too young. I told them to stick to guys their own age and get off the site. I'm more of a MILF man myself. I prefer them over 25 just as they start putting on the pounds which is why I want to try street meat this time. Everytime someone here posts about chicas being 'fat' I take notes haha.
GringoTigre
03-25-17, 19:48
JJBEE: thanks for the very articulate reply.
Yes there are all shapes, ages and backgrounds on the cam. On both sides. You see colombianas getting between US $1/ HR to +US $500/ HR. 18 year old To +50 year old.
Some like MILFs and don't want anything to do w / someone age of their children. That might be attractive for some 'losers', but different strokes for some. Some of us like to improve or practice Spanish. Some prefer GFE and understanding someone rather than anonymous prepago transaction. Personally, the performance is much more important than the appearance. A passionate GFE Colombiana "7" a starfish Colombiana with bolt ONS "10". But thankfully the equation is not the same for everyone.
CC has a very bad reputation and I have not tried it.
Another aspect is that a lot of us here have $ but not enough vaca time to travel south as often as we would like.
YippieKayay
03-25-17, 20:10
Gents?
Which is better SA or Colombian Cupid? Just got back from Medellin and had authentic non prepago real GFE with two paisas via SA. They treated me like a king, spent the day with me and gave me a local experience and of course total GFE in bed. I like that Colombian Cupid is much cheaper. Thoughts? And the best part was, they didn't have a price that wanted. They both just told me to give whatever I wanted.I tried Colombian Cupid recently. I got bored after two weeks. I must have connected with about a dozen other women. Here is what I found:
* A couple of teens lying about their age. I noticed one chica even had a photo in a classroom. They would admit it when I asked them if they were really 22 years old. The other girl just straight up told me she was 18 and not 22. I had no interest in pursuing.
* Two women had what was obviously either an old photo or a photo of a friend in their profile because when I switched to Whatsapp their profile photo there didn't match. They went from a hottie to an older and heavier woman. Again waste of time.
* Several women, including two who had platinum profiles, who went straight to the point: "que busca en esta pagina?" Which I think means what are you looking for in this page (or website). I'd tell them I'm visiting soon and looking to make new friends. They went on about how they only wanted a serious relationship. Honestly, I couldn't lie to them so I told them straight up I wasn't interested in anything serious.
* The other women bored me to death. I'd write out several sentences asking them about the weather and making a joke. They'd respond with a few words at a time. If I didn't write them they would write me a few words and emoticons like I was supposed to stay in touch. Just zero substance. Not entertaining. Obviously not up to fuck, and if they were it was too much work to read their inane responses.
There were a few girls who looked like prepagos but they didn't bite. A friend swears by "Latin American Cupid" but I never tried that site out.
JJBEE: thanks for the very articulate reply.
Yes there are all shapes, ages and backgrounds on the cam. On both sides. You see colombianas getting between US $1/ HR to +US $500/ HR. 18 year old To +50 year old.
Some like MILFs and don't want anything to do w / someone age of their children. That might be attractive for some 'losers', but different strokes for some. Some of us like to improve or practice Spanish. Some prefer GFE and understanding someone rather than anonymous prepago transaction. Personally, the performance is much more important than the appearance. A passionate GFE Colombiana "7" a starfish Colombiana with bolt ONS "10". But thankfully the equation is not the same for everyone.
CC has a very bad reputation and I have not tried it.
Another aspect is that a lot of us here have $ but not enough vaca time to travel south as often as we would like.I went on Twitter, checked out some of the models being followed by the webcam godfather of Colombia. Went to several of the models Twitter feeds and snagged a picture. All of these are from open accounts, meaning anyone can check out their feed. I believe almost all of these women are from Colombia, although I didn't spend the time to check. I only know they are active webcam models.
I do recognize that 2 of them are among the top Colombian models. No idea on how successful the rest are. Enjoy!
At least with SA you know you are getting a Sugar Baby, ColoCupid has some real romance ads I imagine.
Helpful if you posted the SA links to your 2 dates in case other are interested.
Gents?
Which is better SA or Colombian Cupid? Just got back from Medellin and had authentic non prepago real GFE with two paisas via SA. They treated me like a king, spent the day with me and gave me a local experience and of course total GFE in bed. I like that Colombian Cupid is much cheaper. Thoughts? And the best part was, they didn't have a price that wanted. They both just told me to give whatever I wanted.
Exactly, there are all kinds of reasons a guy might not be willing or able to travel or go face to face with girls. I'm in no position to judge.
And a monger that pays to have sex because he can't get laid on his own merits is any less of a loser, give me a fucking break.
YippieKayay
03-25-17, 21:38
I was quoted 30,000 p including room from the 4 chicks I was with there...
Is ita pretty rushed experience? At 30 k they must want you in and out or are they pretty laid back? How's the customer traffic there? Do you see a lot Colombians partake?
2. Raudal-and. 3 - NW corner Calle 53 & Carr 54.
Around Raudal-and. 3 More older 20+pros in this bunch, more hooker outfits, little scarier then the church block, more locals loitering / drinking, less commercial shopping foot traffic. I didn't particularly like this block while by myself, felt too many eyes on me. Also you can't just circle the block like at Veracruz, the surrounding blocks are a little scarier. (more trash, homeless, less people).
There was another report that this area turns into a parade of flesh at night. I'm assuming it was scary enough you only went during the day. Looking forward to checking this place out. Did you fuck anyone from this group?
Hi All, So I booked my first trip to MDE in July and wanted to ask other Canadians who have been down some questions primarily about the exchange rate. I was thinking of bringing cash down and then exchanging at the bank. Been looking at the exchange rates online and see some big variations on the rate. Anyone have a going rate for canadian at the present time. I was also thinking of using only the ATM's as then I do not have to carry cash on me and this makes more sense but wanted to know what if any was the service charge. Any info would be appreciated.
Is ita pretty rushed experience? At 30 k they must want you in and out or are they pretty laid back? How's the customer traffic there? Do you see a lot Colombians partake?
There was another report that this area turns into a parade of flesh at night. I'm assuming it was scary enough you only went during the day. Looking forward to checking this place out. Did you fuck anyone from this group?Is ita pretty rushed experience? Not really, I mean no GFE, but no hurry papi dame leche either, I think it's for 1/2 HR. I don't ask a lot for $10. LOL.
Never saw anybody but me partake but it was only mornings and up to mid afternoon, hit the strip clubs after dark, off the streets. LOL.
The Ruidal area I did only walk thru in day, didn't partake 'cause liked the spinner crowd at the church better.
You did an excellent job. You probably saved some punters a lot of extra steps and risk. I agree with the rule of thumb I've seen here a few times. You are OK if there are other civilians around but you must avoid isolated dark spots. The tourist looking or Spanish speaking thing is generally true but not quite as much a factor as it might seem from reading some of the posts on this forum. For example, the Junin pedestrian street that borders a lot of the provider streets is full of daytime and evening shoppers and tourists. Not so much after the last restaurants close around 9 pm to 10 pm. No one is going to give a second look to obvious foreigners. Step off the pedestrian street a block or two and like you said, it's another whole story. If you have a phone with Internet access, how hard is it to plug in an address and listen to turn by turn walking directions on earbuds? You don't need to be fluent in Spanish to do that but you do need to know how to use a smartphone and key in an address.
My Centro Street guide- (posted most of this in earlier posts but not all in one spot-gathered in 5 days of endless wandering around Centro by myself March of '17).
1. Behind the small white church-Iglesia De La Veracruz-Calle51/ Carr53 -just SE of Plaza Botero.
More young ones in this crowd, ID check a good idea, some trannies too- so penis check also. Starts at pay-phones in front of church and goes around block clockwise on 3 sides till the museum is on your left. Most the glue huffers are in front of / alongside the church. More trannies in this group too. Some of the trannies are convincing little spinners so make sure you are getting what you want. Several little bars along east side of Car53 between Cal51 & 52 with girls in the bar or doorways. Lots just leaning against the walls around the block too. I usually had to do a few laps and sometimes come back in a bit to find one I wanted.
I was quoted 30,000 p including room from the 4 chicks I was with there (3 chicks, one girl-boy. I ask more questions now. Then Oh!) The rooms weren't that bad, shower, fan, porno TV in some. The rooms we used were upstairs in the middle of the block on Carr53, east side, several working girls standing in the entrance and stairwell..
ColombiaLover
03-25-17, 22:16
Hell yes! I second that. I actually have a list of chicas who are. Waiting for their 18th birthday later this year (and their cedula). I am sure some of you do also.
Yes, it's a problem and you must be careful and check cedula carefully. But, there is nothing in the world like a sweet smelling 18 year old pussy trying to please you.
You can track exchange rates by the minute on xe.com.
I don't think that's necessary since the rate does not fluctuate enough to notice unless you are into 4 or 5 figure Canadian dollar amounts. I vote for using the ATMs. You can search the forum for info about daily withdrawal limits and exchange rates by bank and ATM location, but I think that's a waste of time for typical $200 to $300 withdrawals. Some guys absolutely obsess over it; probably because they are using the ATMs for weeks or months at a time. You hit the nail on the head about a reason for the ATM option. It limits the risk of losing a big pile of cash at one time. I find it more convenient to pay a few transaction fees than stress about somebody jacking me or my room for a bunch of cash. I hope that helps.
Hi All, So I booked my first trip to MDE in July and wanted to ask other Canadians who have been down some questions primarily about the exchange rate. I was thinking of bringing cash down and then exchanging at the bank. Been looking at the exchange rates online and see some big variations on the rate. Anyone have a going rate for canadian at the present time. I was also thinking of using only the ATM's as then I do not have to carry cash on me and this makes more sense but wanted to know what if any was the service charge. Any info would be appreciated.
LOL! This is our version of a wine cellar. Some bottles are not yet "ready for drinking."
Hell yes! I second that. I actually have a list of chicas who are. Waiting for their 18th birthday later this year (and their cedula). I am sure some of you do also.
Mr Enternational
03-25-17, 23:08
I tried Colombian Cupid recently. I got bored after two weeks. A friend swears by "Latin American Cupid" but I never tried that site out.I have sworn by Latin American Cupid (for all of Latin America) for 12 years now. I have never been on Colombian Cupid. Back in 2006 I met a chick on LAC who like you said was obvious she was not 18. When I asked she told me she was 16. I was 34 at the time. I told her that I did not need those kind of problems even though she said her parents would not mind. I told her to get back with me when she turned 18. Sure as shit she contacted me on her 18th birthday. From then, I would always go to Cali to see her and most of the time stay in her parents' house (of course I had to sleep on the couch. But we made motel visits) where she or her mom would make 3 meals / day.
We were going to get married but she wanted to do it before visiting my country. I thought that she should come visit first and enroll in an English class and let me teach her how to drive. She said it was better that all my family come to Colombia to meet her instead. To me that was a dumb idea so we broke up but remained friends. Now she is married to a Colombian guy her age and has a 3 year old daughter.
How can you tell if a cedula is fake or been altered?
Is there a website line that explains what to watch out for?
Thanks!
Hell yes! I second that. I actually have a list of chicas who are. Waiting for their 18th birthday later this year (and their cedula). I am sure some of you do also.
On the weekends the ones I saw on the corners were mostly TV's I think, too tall.
But Hotel Milano Calle #49-41 has some that look like they might be women out front:
So does Hotel Nuevo Majestic at Carr50#55-14.
And a monger that pays to have sex because he can't get laid on his own merits is any less of a loser, give me a fucking break.Exactly!
To each their own brother.
Webcam, porn, travel to monger, etc, etc.
Whatever floats your boat.
Mayorista red light area:
In the south of the city, in the north part of Itagüí.
S side of Calle 85, West of Carrera 50.
Closest Metro station is Ayurá on the blue A line headed S to La Estrella.
The day girls who showed up on StreetView:
Also where "Isla (the Girls) Strip Club" & Loutron Spa are on the map. For Loutron you are looking for the gate on the south side of the road.
I am thinking about renting a KTM Duke 390 and riding that up in the hills to Loutron next time. They have them at Medellin Scooter Rental- 55,000 p an HR or 4 hrs for 130,000 p.
Gents?
Which is better SA or Colombian Cupid? Just got back from Medellin and had authentic non prepago real GFE with two paisas via SA. They treated me like a king, spent the day with me and gave me a local experience and of course total GFE in bed. I like that Colombian Cupid is much cheaper. Thoughts? And the best part was, they didn't have a price that wanted. They both just told me to give whatever I wanted.I think CC attracts a lot of riff raff. SA is well organized and well run. The girls see it as a USA operation and desires to meet americans.
They have scooters and dirtbikes too.
I was also thinking of using only the ATM's as then I do not have to carry cash on me and this makes more sense but wanted to know what if any was the service charge. Any info would be appreciated.There is no debate here. Use the ATM. You will get virtually the current exchange rate. Otherwise you will lose at least 10% from the change houses and at least 5% - 10% at a Bank after you wait all day and give your passport and fill out paperwork. Call your bank beforehand and increase the daily limit of what you can withdrawal. Yes, the Colombian ATM will charge you a fee, but for me, my bank refunds that. Plus you don't need to worry about carrying cash with you on the flight, etc. Use ATMs as needed for your whole trip.
JJBEE: thanks for the very articulate reply.
Yes there are all shapes, ages and backgrounds on the cam. On both sides. You see colombianas getting between US $1/ HR to +US $500/ HR. 18 year old To +50 year old.
Some like MILFs and don't want anything to do w / someone age of their children. That might be attractive for some 'losers', but different strokes for some. Some of us like to improve or practice Spanish. Some prefer GFE and understanding someone rather than anonymous prepago transaction. Personally, the performance is much more important than the appearance. A passionate GFE Colombiana "7" a starfish Colombiana with bolt ONS "10". But thankfully the equation is not the same for everyone.
CC has a very bad reputation and I have not tried it.
Another aspect is that a lot of us here have $ but not enough vaca time to travel south as often as we would like.Hey and you can't get any STDs or unwanted pregnancy from a Webcam! Personally, I wouldn't spend a nickel on a webcam, but if some guys get off on it, I don't see a problem.
My Centro Street guide- (posted most of this in earlier posts but not all in one spot-gathered in 5 days of endless wandering around Centro by myself March of '17).
1. Behind the small white church-Iglesia De La Veracruz-Calle51/ Carr53 -just SE of Plaza Botero.
More young ones in this crowd, ID check a good idea, some trannies too- so penis check also. Starts at pay-phones in front of church and goes around block clockwise on 3 sides till the museum is on your left. Most the glue huffers are in front of / alongside the church. More trannies in this group too. Some of the trannies are convincing little spinners so make sure you are getting what you want. Several little bars along east side of Car53 between Cal51 & 52 with girls in the bar or doorways. Lots just leaning against the walls around the block too. I usually had to do a few laps and sometimes come back in a bit to find one I wanted.
I was quoted 30,000 p including room from the 4 chicks I was with there (3 chicks, one girl-boy. I ask more questions now. Then Oh!) The rooms weren't that bad, shower, fan, porno TV in some. The rooms we used were upstairs in the middle of the block on Carr53, east side, several working girls standing in the entrance and stairwell. (which is fun if you are only up there for 5 min and leave with a girl / boy. LOL) Even at 8 am on a Tuesday there were 15+ girls out, by 9 am I found a hottie so good place for a quickie before airport run, airport buses about 2-1/2 blocks away behind the Nutibara which is across from Parque Botero. Shower's a plus for your fellow travellers..This is a great report and your advice to those with no Spanish speaking skills is spot on.
Gents?
Which is better SA or Colombian Cupid? Just got back from Medellin and had authentic non prepago real GFE with two paisas via SA. They treated me like a king, spent the day with me and gave me a local experience and of course total GFE in bed. I like that Colombian Cupid is much cheaper. Thoughts? And the best part was, they didn't have a price that wanted. They both just told me to give whatever I wanted.What's an authentic non-hooker that takes money for sex? Just because they didn't ask for it up front just means that they are good at the game and at reading people.
PepolesBuddy
03-27-17, 02:10
What's an authentic non-hooker that takes money for sex? Just because they didn't ask for it up front just means that they are good at the game and at reading people.It's hard to explain. I would say Sugar Baby. They wouldn't give me a price because they didn't want to come off as selling their bodies for sex. And plus they really liked me as I them. The chemistry was mutual. They gave me a tour of their barrios, showed me a local experience of what life is like for everyday people. I. E. , where they eat, live, hang out, daily struggles. I even met their families. I stupidly went to one of the most dangerous communes (robledo campina) because one of them lives there and came out unscathed. They treated me like a novio / amigo con derecho and looked at me as Dorian Grey from 50 shades of grey. I took them to fun places, romantic dates, and treated them like my reina while together. Not once did they treat me like a client nor did I treat them like prepagos. They were true SB's. A Lot of them don't have jobs so they can't afford to go out at all. So the fact that they get to meet an exotic American that speaks decent Spanish, dances salsa, that knows how to seduce, and experienced in bed puts stars in their eyes. For 300,000 pesos, they spent all day with me, slept over night, and gave me the best local experience I've ever had anywhere in the world.
So for what most prepagos charge for an hour. I got much more bang for my buck with women that actually took care of me, were hospitable, and wanted to show off me to their city and show off their city to me. They had big smiles on their faces and were proud to have me as their Dorian Grey escape. The key though gents is to have game. If you have no game, stick with Prepagos. But if you have game and are willing to put in the elbow grease, then the experience will be unforgettable. God I love Medellin. Viva Colombia!
Hi All, So I booked my first trip to MDE in July and wanted to ask other Canadians who have been down some questions primarily about the exchange rate. I was thinking of bringing cash down and then exchanging at the bank. Been looking at the exchange rates online and see some big variations on the rate. Anyone have a going rate for canadian at the present time. I was also thinking of using only the ATM's as then I do not have to carry cash on me and this makes more sense but wanted to know what if any was the service charge. Any info would be appreciated.You have to go to a cambio to exchange foreign currencies, banks do not do this service in Colombia, downtown medellin has 3 or 4 cambios, plus others in other parts of city, google it and you will see lots of names of cambios, RBC, royalbank Canada, charges $5. To get 600.000 pesos At Bancolombia, some other banks here have a max 300,000. The only charge, no service fee at Bancolombia, if you have a RBC VIP account there are no charges, as previous poster replied, ATM 's a no brainer, the 171,000 visa fee for canucks is payable with a credit card at immigration, if entering in Bogota, go to the farthest line at immigration, that is the Canada line as only one immigration desk services paying the visa fee, if you wait in the first 5 lineups you will be told to go to the Canada line upon reaching an officer, and start the waiting process again. You can thank ex pm Harper for bringing in this reciprocal fee by Colombia, as prior to 2 years visas were free for canuckers.
Be careful with Hotel Milano, a few extra convincing trannys hang out near the doorway. I dread reading about another 8-inch surprise on this site.
On the weekends the ones I saw on the corners were mostly TV's I think, too tall.
But Hotel Milano Calle #49-41 has some that look like they might be women out front:
So does Hotel Nuevo Majestic at Carr50#55-14.
YippieKayay
03-27-17, 17:06
So for what most prepagos charge for an hour. I got much more bang for my buck with women that actually took care of me, were hospitable, and wanted to show off me to their city and show off their city to me. They had big smiles on their faces and were proud to have me as their Dorian Grey escape. The key though gents is to have game. If you have no game, stick with Prepagos. But if you have game and are willing to put in the elbow grease, then the experience will be unforgettable. God I love Medellin. Viva Colombia!Prepagos don't charge 300 k for an hour. In Medellin the most you'd pay is 200 k with a Mansion / FB girl. Our intrepid hero Wolf was paying 30 k a pop. I'm not trying to diminish you having a good time but don't act like you got some kind of super deal there paying 300 k. Also, some sound of advice here, if I understood you correctly you went to the poor neighborhoods (barrios)? Don't fly too close to the sun, Icarus. All you need is a jealous boyfriend, or a resentful local to put a damper on things fast. And when things turn ugly they turn ugly fast.
Stick to Seeking Arrangement. It's a more expensive experience but that's where Sugar Babies hang out.
Mr Enternational
03-27-17, 18:04
The key though gents is to have game. If you have no game, stick with Prepagos. But if you have game and are willing to put in the elbow grease, then the experience will be unforgettable. God I love Medellin. Viva Colombia!I do not understand how you have to have game to pay a chick. Maybe to haggle a reduced rate, but certainly not to rent a pussy. If they liked you that much you would not have had to pay them. And don't give the excuse about helping out because they are poor, showed you a good time, etc. You gave them as much dick as they gave you pussy (fair exchange), but had they not given you pussy would you still be as eager to "help out" financially? I meet plenty of chicks that do all the things you say those chicks did, yet I do not have to give them money. It is just called normal dating.
You are right of course, but for some reason this discussion happens again and again on this forum. I really don't get what is interesting about splitting hairs between pros, non pros, semi pros, semi hoes, it's absurd. Looks, performance, and personal preference / enjoyment, and the price paid, that is info I find useful. I have no problem with guys coming on here and talking about how charming they are but it gets boring.
I do not understand how you have to have game to pay a chick. Maybe to haggle a reduced rate, but certainly not to rent a pussy. If they liked you that much you would not have had to pay them. And don't give the excuse about helping out because they are poor, showed you a good time, etc. You gave them as much dick as they gave you pussy (fair exchange), but had they not given you pussy would you still be as eager to "help out" financially? I meet plenty of chicks that do all the things you say those chicks did, yet I do not have to give them money. It is just called normal dating.
I do not understand how you have to have game to pay a chick. Maybe to haggle a reduced rate, but certainly not to rent a pussy. If they liked you that much you would not have had to pay them. And don't give the excuse about helping out because they are poor, showed you a good time, etc. You gave them as much dick as they gave you pussy (fair exchange), but had they not given you pussy would you still be as eager to "help out" financially? I meet plenty of chicks that do all the things you say those chicks did, yet I do not have to give them money. It is just called normal dating.I think he might be confused about the Seeking Arrangement website. A sugar baby is someone expecting and requiring a long term financial commitment, prior to any physical exchange. She ain't giving it up until the check clears. The majority on SA, at least in Medellin, are prepagos who found a way to make more money.
If she's living in an estrato 2 barrio, she's at best a 50 k chica. No Colombian with the money to drop 300 k is going to pay that in her neighborhood, when he can get an estrato 5 chica for the same price. She might be a knockout, sweet and be awesome in bed, but her local price tag is the discount rack at Wal-Mart.
So she saves her pesos and lists on SA. She gets a gringo not only paying her a week's earning per day, he also takes her places she could never afford. It's the Colombian version of "Pretty Woman. ".
It's his money, he had a great time. Good for him. The "genuine non prepagos" had a great time and 2 days later they were truly enjoying themselves with another gringo who had incredible game. In the meantime, they were doing locals each day at 50 k a pop.
The reason why they won't name a price is because 9 out of 10 gringos using SA will pay them more than they would dare ask. They want to impress the chica with a lot of cash and the chica wants to pretend she's never done this before.
Enjoy Medellin in whatever way you can.
Holy crap, you paint a raw picture of the situation. But it's all true. It's really a whatever the market will bear scenario. The chica is worth whatever someone is willing to pay. I'm an unsentimental slob, so I get no value or thrill out of knowing I met a girl on a website with elegant graphics. I enjoy the girls for themselves. On the other hand, I don't look down on nice looking girls because they are working in 50 K casas or even strolling on the outskirts of Plaza Botero. If they look good then I'm impressed. All other things are equal for me.
I think he might be confused about the Seeking Arrangement website. A sugar baby is someone expecting and requiring a long term financial commitment, prior to any physical exchange. She ain't giving it up until the check clears. The majority on SA, at least in Medellin, are prepagos who found a way to make more money.
If she's living in an estrato 2 barrio, she's at best a 50 k chica. No Colombian with the money to drop 300 k is going to pay that in her neighborhood, when he can get an estrato 5 chica for the same price. She might be a knockout, sweet and be awesome in bed, but her local price tag is the discount rack at Wal-Mart.
So she saves her pesos and lists on SA. She gets a gringo not only paying her a week's earning per day, he also takes her places she could never afford. It's the Colombian version of "Pretty Woman. "..
The key though gents is to have game. If you have no game, stick with Prepagos. But if you have game and are willing to put in the elbow grease, then the experience will be unforgettable..Did any accompany you to the airport and cry when you boarded the plane? Just wanted to make sure you got your 300K worth.
Legal Tender
03-28-17, 02:18
I think they are just live-for-the-day people that tend to waste money on crap then get desperate. It's baffling.I live here and our amigo's conclusion sums up the Paisa mindset.
Only good energy!
Mr Enternational
03-28-17, 04:30
Did any accompany you to the airport and cry when you boarded the plane? Just wanted to make sure you got your 300K worth.That is more of a Brazil / Thailand thing. Never seen it in Colombia.
GringoTigre
03-28-17, 04:36
Relevant to the discussion on P4P vs conventional date.
Another Colombia 'ah ha' moment is the very term prepago rather than the dozens of other terms used around the world. Apart from mobile phones, I've not hear this pre-pay term used elsewhere in any language. Please correct me if you know of elsewhere. Just the using the term prepago, there is an implied acknowledgement. You'll pay "before" or you will eventually pay. Sure there is also a date and drop approach. If that's your thing, have fun.
Additionally, if you approach things as a gentleman, often the non full-time prepagos don't even treat time together as a transaction with asking for payment upfront, nor any upsell. Clockwatching occurs, most certainly in casas and high volume agencies. It creates a better illusion for either or both. If that's what you're looking for, it's' available. Colombiana passion comes in many flavors.
In this site, you'll read countless stories of "planned for an hour or two, but it ended up as a TLN" or "we ended up meeting another day just to hang out".
That's a healthy thing when both parties realize that it is an illusion.
There is a phrase in Colombia - "the need creates the solution" - which I've heard more than a few times to describe why so many women choose this route to money. I find it a refreshing look at things without placing judgement or blame.
That is more of a Brazil / Thailand thing. Never seen it in Colombia.I was being facetious. Somehow my winkie didn't make it through the screener. But sorry to hear that those looking for tears will have to head much further south or east. Lolol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjMNOouIb0k
Black Page
03-28-17, 10:43
That is more of a Brazil / Thailand thing. Never seen it in Colombia.You are young <g> . It happened to me leaving from the Cartagena airport. And she's a regular at Reloy.
(you should see me now how I inflate myself like a peacock) (yes, it must be once in a lifetime experience).
YippieKayay
03-28-17, 12:50
You are young <g> . It happened to me leaving from the Cartagena airport. And she's a regular at Reloy.
(you should see me now how I inflate myself like a peacock) (yes, it must be once in a lifetime experience).I would have started clapping. Maybe give her one of those fake academy award trophies. "Excelente! Excelente!
Hello gentlemen,
I will be arriving in Medellin on Monday as a last minute detour. I read the forum, but still am a bit confused, so I hope you guys can help me out a bit. I am fairly familiar with Cartagena, but I doubt the scene is exactly the same. I read about the mansion, I thought it was a club, but now from my understanding it's a hotel? Is there anything similar to LDV? Also can anyone recommend something couple friendly. I will be sure to post my report when I return.
El Mechanico
03-28-17, 14:00
That is more of a Brazil / Thailand thing. Never seen it in Colombia.I'm pretty sure he was teasing PeoplesBuddy!!
El Mechanico
03-28-17, 14:08
I have no problem with guys coming on here and talking about how charming they are but it gets boring.Before my first trip to MDE last July, I read about 2 years of posts / pages in chronological order after being advised to RTFF! And it was very good advice BTW!! Anyway, my point is, self glossing runs rampant on this thread. Some mongers are very impressed with their game & will let you know it!!
El Mechanico.
PepolesBuddy
03-28-17, 14:33
Actually the 25 year old college student did without the crying LOL. Other than the GFE sex twice a day, all day / night fun dates, and overnighters. What was really special for me was how they opened up their lives to me. The college girl was proud to show me off at her university, friends, and family. As well as the other chica that lived in the commune Robledo campinha. They both showed me gems in salvenetta / envigado / itagui / Robledo campiña. Basically local barrios. Now I do agree going to the commune was stupid and I'm not doing that again. In all fairness I didn't know it was a commune until the college chica told me. But I thought it was clean, hilly, and had great character. I also smoked the strongest weed I've ever had in my life "cripa" or creepy weed LOL. I felt like a BF / lover / millionaire / baller and I must say it was an awesome feeling.
Now I don't want you to think that these 2 chicas fell from the sky. Trust me I had to put in my fair share of elbow grease. I messaged about 60 chicas, video chatted with 20, and met up with 6 for a date / interview And yes only fucked 2. I don't have sex with someone unless there's mutual chemistry and that they make me feel safe / comfortable. In other words, with chicas that are clean and disease free. And won't rob me or set me up LOL. I hear crazy stories of how prepagos drug, rob, or set up tourist to be robbed all the time.
Anyways to all the haters remember. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Before my first trip to MDE last July, I read about 2 years of posts / pages in chronological order after being advised to RTFF! And it was very good advice BTW!! Anyway, my point is, self glossing runs rampant on this thread. Some mongers are very impressed with their game & will let you know it!!
El Mechanico.I don't like to brag, but women just can't take their eyes off of me when I'm pulling out the money to pay them.
I don't like to brag, but women just can't take their eyes off of me when I'm pulling out the money to pay them.I get the same result when I send those ten magic digits.
Mr Enternational
03-28-17, 15:48
Some mongers are very impressed with their game & will let you know it!!It is all a numbers game period. I was fucking a chick in Dominican Republic that I met on Cupid. She showed me her inbox where there were over 1000 messages that she had not even read. What do you think made her read mine? Pretty much nothing but luck. And even after I do make contact I do not say anything to try to impress them or run game. I just act normal and let the chips fall where they may.
YippieKayay
03-28-17, 16:34
Hello gentlemen,
I will be arriving in Medellin on Monday as a last minute detour. I read the forum, but still am a bit confused, so I hope you guys can help me out a bit. I am fairly familiar with Cartagena, but I doubt the scene is exactly the same. I read about the mansion, I thought it was a club, but now from my understanding it's a hotel? Is there anything similar to LDV? Also can anyone recommend something couple friendly. I will be sure to post my report when I return.As far as I know 'hooker bars' like LDV are almost non existent in Medellin unless you go to a place like Mayorista or in centro. You could also try the strip clubs like Fase Dose. Wolf662's recent posts have more info on the scene in centro which is not as safe or upscale as LDV. You can also look at JjBee62's post back from November where he has a summary of the scene in Medellin.
Black Page
03-28-17, 18:07
I don't like to brag, but women just can't take their eyes off of me when I'm pulling out the money to pay them.You must be handsome (hermoso!
Actually the 25 year old college student did without the crying LOL. Oops no tears? Sounds like you need to up your game a bit.
Anyways to all the haters remember. Don't hate the player, hate the game.I haven't seen any hating. Just amusement at the "authentic non-prepagos" remark, that you didn't realize that you were paying prostitutes for sex and companionship. Carry on.
As far as I know 'hooker bars' like LDV are almost non existent in Medellin unless you go to a place like Mayorista or in centro. You could also try the strip clubs like Fase Dose. Wolf662's recent posts have more info on the scene in centro which is not as safe or upscale as LDV. You can also look at JjBee62's post back from November where he has a summary of the scene in Medellin.Map for the nicer / more expensive strip clubs Luna Lunera, Grille San Diego and Fase II, the Isla (the Girls) was on my last map. Also where Casa Fantasies Energy is.
GringoTigre
03-29-17, 02:30
Actually the 25 year old college student did without the crying LOL. Other than the GFE sex twice a day, all day / night fun dates, and overnighters. What was really special for me was how they opened up their lives to me. The college girl was proud to show me off at her university, friends, and family. As well as the other chica that lived in the commune Robledo campinha. They both showed me gems in salvenetta / envigado / itagui / Robledo campia. Basically local barrios. Now I do agree going to the commune was stupid and I'm not doing that again.
Now I don't want you to think that these 2 chicas fell from the sky. Trust me I had to put in my fair share of elbow grease. I messaged about 60 chicas, video chatted with 20, and met up with 6 for a date / interview And yes only fucked 2.This is exactly what I was referring to. A multidimensional multidisciplinary immersion experience. Viva estilo GFE Colombiana. Obviously this isn't what many are looking for, but for those readers who are curious. Just give it a try.
Sr Pepoles what method did you use for initial contact? (CC, SA, FB, etc).
I don't have sex with someone unless there's mutual chemistry and that they make me feel safe / comfortable. Don't forget one last part... "and after the funds are exchanged".
In other words, with chicas that are clean and disease free. How do confirm the disease-free part? Is there some kind of new home STD test that you administer? There's always the oldie but goody smell test (aka old-reliable).
And won't rob me or set me up LOL.How do you know that they won't? The only sure way would be "right hand on the bible" since they are really afraid of the Dios.
This is exactly what I was referring to. A multidimensional multidisciplinary immersion experience. Viva estilo GFE Colombiana. Obviously this isn't what many are looking for, but for those readers who are curious. Just give it a try.Sure enough. Many want an experience with a prostitute that can make them feel like they aren't a trick, IE. "GFE" or whatever label one wants to put on it. That's all fine by me, just don't come here pitching the illusion you purchased as reality, IE. "authentic non-prepagos" then get defensive when people challenge you on it.
True girlfriends don't charge a guy 300 K at the end of the "date. " Want to find out how real it really is? Try to sending her home with nothing or 20 k for a taxi at the end of the "date. " See what happens.
Pepolesbuddy saw a couple of prostitutes. That doesn't mean though that some here aren't capable of scoring a real date or girlfriend whether in the states or Colombia. Given all the suave dudes on message boards I'm confidents that plentl can. Lololol.
Colombiana passion comes in many flavors. P4P typically involves performance, not "passion," and with the aim to bring the guy to completion ASAP.
In this site, you'll read countless stories of "planned for an hour or two, but it ended up as a TLN" or "we ended up meeting another day just to hang out". You read all kinds of things on sites like this. But believing pussy stories is like believing a bunch of fisherman. Lolol This especially applies here given that so many guys in this hobby are most adept at self-delusion, and wise hookers play them like a fiddle.
That's a healthy thing when both parties realize that it is an illusion. Illusion. Bingo. Now you're really getting somewhere.
In other words, with chicas that are clean and disease free. And won't rob me or set me up LOL. I hear crazy stories of how prepagos drug, rob, or set up tourist to be robbed all the time.But you didn't see any "prepagos" in Medellin so what are you worried about? LOL.
I'll add as an aside that it's usually the younger guys that are more prone to these sorts of delusions, as in their heart of hearts they know they shouldn't be having to pay for pussy. Though of course older guys sometimes go there as well.
Map for the nicer / more expensive strip clubs Luna Lunera, Grille San Diego and Fase II, the Isla (the Girls) was on my last map. Also where Casa Fantasies Energy is.Thank you, not a member so I cannot see the map, but I am sure I will find the strip clubs. I guess in my situation it's best to stick to those anyway. I appreciate the help.
PepolesBuddy
03-29-17, 13:42
This is exactly what I was referring to. A multidimensional multidisciplinary immersion experience. Viva estilo GFE Colombiana. Obviously this isn't what many are looking for, but for those readers who are curious. Just give it a try.
Sr Pepoles what method did you use for initial contact? (CC, SA, FB, etc).SA parcero.
SA parcero.Which site is "SA"?
Thanks!
Soldierb11
03-29-17, 19:00
You don't have to believe that there are Colombian models making $400 k / year. You don't have to believe there are Colombian models paying me to move to Medellin, or that I'll be moving into a Poblado high-rise in 15 days to help Colombian models make more money. You can even believe I'm a loser.
But it won't change my view, or my income.I don't know how much the top girls make but I have met some cam girls that make very little and some that do quite well. 400k a year? Maybe. Guys send an incredible amount to girls online. Camming can be a win $ win $ for the studio and camgirl and well the client I hope enjoyed himself as well.
I would just worry about a studio in poblado being raided by the police, or the tax dudes at that or jealous neighbors questioning why scores of hot chicas go to your apartment every day but well done seriously.
YippieKayay
03-29-17, 19:00
Which site is "SA"?
Thanks!Seeking Arrangement.
Seeking Arrangement.Thanks Yippie!
You are speaking a lot of truth. It's healthy to get this perspective. It's kind of like bitter medicine, unpleasant but good for you in the long run.
But you didn't see any "prepagos" in Medellin so what are you worried about? LOL.
I'll add as an aside that it's usually the younger guys that are more prone to these sorts of delusions, as in their heart of hearts they know they shouldn't be having to pay for pussy. Though of course older guys sometimes go there as well.
West Fl Dude
03-29-17, 20:37
Seeking Arrangement.SA- (not seeking alpha) seeking arrangement- yeah became a premium $79 for a month as the only way message back. So that membership will be short and sweet. Many sugar babies in this world and I don't think I'm into being a sugar daddy per se, but in brings in the whole philosophy thing. You pay one way or another. Funny I already tinderplus already active even though it sucks locally, so using that somewhat to gather data about mde. I thank all senior member and those who have contributed here.
I guess the mansion is now called hotel m. I will stay there. Continue lurking here.
Thanks all.
I don't know how much the top girls make but I have met some cam girls that make very little and some that do quite well. 400k a year? Maybe. Guys send an incredible amount to girls online. Camming can be a win $ win $ for the studio and camgirl and well the client I hope enjoyed himself as well.
I would just worry about a studio in poblado being raided by the police, or the tax dudes at that or jealous neighbors questioning why scores of hot chicas go to your apartment every day but well done seriously.Scores of hot chicas won't be coming to my apartment, just 2. I haven't seen the main studio yet, but I don't think the boss has anything to worry about with the police. He's been at it for a long time. There was a recent article in the Barranquilla newspaper about a local webcam girl. It's interesting reading.
https://www.elheraldo.co/barranquilla/el-negocio-de-animar-cibernautas-extranjeros-por-webcam-340677?amp
but in brings in the whole philosophy thing. You pay one way or another. More monger board lore that serves as an ego saving balm to make guys feel better about paying for sex. There's plenty of women out there that in a given time simply want to have their sexual needs met, and if you happened to buy them a beer that doesn't count. I do the same for friends, family, and guys I meet from boards such as this.
Then there is the opposite, women who prop up loser boyfriends. Surely varies what they are after but it not's money. Then there's celebrity couples where both are rich. They fuck and aren't after each other's money.
So though there is plenty of gold digging around it's far from a universal. So drop the "all women are working girls" except of course your mother or sister bitterness and get on with life. You can still enjoy paying hookers for a performance while leaving such nonsense behind.
Cheers.
West Fl Dude
03-30-17, 14:48
More monger board lore that serves as an ego saving balm to make guys feel better about paying for sex. There's plenty of women out there that in a given time simply want to have their sexual needs met, and if you happened to buy them a beer that doesn't count. I do the same for friends, family, and guys I meet from boards such as this.
Paulie97 dude,
You missed my point. I was referring to Seeking Arrangement, the sugardaddy sugarbaby site and the varies levels of relationships it may bring. I was not bringing up "all women are working girls" in any such fashion. In the 2 whole days I have been on SA, it amazes me. Everyone looking and keeping their options. And as I look back, maybe I have been a sugardaddy of sorts and will continue on with that site getting whatsapp numbers for 25 more days ha.
We all pay one way or another. Enjoy the ride. And good day.
Hello gentlemen,
I will be arriving in Medellin on Monday as a last minute detour. I read the forum, but still am a bit confused, so I hope you guys can help me out a bit. I am fairly familiar with Cartagena, but I doubt the scene is exactly the same. I read about the mansion, I thought it was a club, but now from my understanding it's a hotel? Is there anything similar to LDV? Also can anyone recommend something couple friendly. I will be sure to post my report when I return.In Parque Lleras, on top of medellin beer factory, there is a nightclub the frequently has working girls. The name escapes me for the moment.
More monger board lore that serves as an ego saving balm to make guys feel better about paying for sex. There's plenty of women out there that in a given time simply want to have their sexual needs met, and if you happened to buy them a beer that doesn't count. I do the same for friends, family, and guys I meet from boards such as this.
Paulie97 dude,
You missed my point. I was referring to Seeking Arrangement, the sugardaddy sugarbaby site and the varies levels of relationships it may bring. I was not bringing up "all women are working girls" in any such fashion. In the 2 whole days I have been on SA, it amazes me. Everyone looking and keeping their options. And as I look back, maybe I have been a sugardaddy of sorts and will continue on with that site getting whatsapp numbers for 25 more days ha.
We all pay one way or another. Enjoy the ride. And good day.Enjoy and best of luck.
YippieKayay
03-31-17, 00:35
In Parque Lleras, on top of medellin beer factory, there is a nightclub the frequently has working girls. The name escapes me for the moment.Joe, I speak for a lot of readers. In El Poblado, by Parque Lleras, there is a hidden place above a bar with hookers? How obvious are they, and when was this? I fucking scrapped my ass into every club or bar last November and I got was one or two waiters that would point at ugly drunk chicas and ask me if I wanted to put jizz in their mouth.
Details. Details.
More monger board lore that serves as an ego saving balm to make guys feel better about paying for sex. There's plenty of women out there that in a given time simply want to have their sexual needs met, and if you happened to buy them a beer that doesn't count. I do the same for friends, family, and guys I meet from boards such as this.
Then there is the opposite, women who prop up loser boyfriends. Surely varies what they are after but it not's money. Then there's celebrity couples where both are rich. They fuck and aren't after each other's money.
So though there is plenty of gold digging around it's far from a universal. So drop the "all women are working girls" except of course your mother or sister bitterness and get on with life. You can still enjoy paying hookers for a performance while leaving such nonsense behind.
Cheers.I agree. For some reason, guys love repeating this "you always end up paying" mantra. It's just not true. Plenty of young guys getting pussy for absolutely nothing. In fact, I'm guessing most on here remember the days of being able to hook up for nothing. Women enjoy sex too and not all are looking for a handout.
However, if you're 50+ and you want to bone hot 20 year-olds, yes you'll likely end up paying in some form.
Joe, I speak for a lot of readers. In El Poblado, by Parque Lleras, there is a hidden place above a bar with hookers? How obvious are they, and when was this? I fucking scrapped my ass into every club or bar last November and I got was one or two waiters that would point at ugly drunk chicas and ask me if I wanted to put jizz in their mouth.
Details. Details.Are you talking about club Gusto?
DickSaylor
03-31-17, 08:20
But you didn't see any "prepagos" in Medellin so what are you worried about? LOL.
I'll add as an aside that it's usually the younger guys that are more prone to these sorts of delusions, as in their heart of hearts they know they shouldn't be having to pay for pussy. Though of course older guys sometimes go there as well.I laughed right out loud at the guy who said "believe it or not some guys don't have to pay". Hahahhahahaha oh man. Usually if they [Deleted by Admin], they'll play "Ms single non pro". You know, single mom, works a menial desk job, lives with mom, etc. She knows you are about to buy her things, take her out, and she can string you along, far more lucrative than sucking dick for half the pay. You'll pay pay pay, and maybe on date three she'll give you some. What a victory! You'll tell everyone. But what you don't know is that she's screwing her boss, her husband, her boyfriend, and any customer that hits her up on fb. These girls are lying scumbags. [Deleted by Admin]
Here's how it really works: You always have to pay up front, and then earn their trust. It works in reverse. If the girl likes you, she'll stop making you pay "going rate" and shack up with you. From there, she'll ask for money when she needs it. You'll know she's getting serious about you when she asks you to meet her family, and you show up and 75 people are there waiting.
Until that time, keep padding your dillusions about "getting it for free". The girl you spent 1,000,000 pesos on "a date" on Friday night 99/100 works as a semi-pro and was probably ordered up like a pizza 3 hours before your date where some 55 year old vet was bouncing his balls off her chin. Yet you didn't have to "pay" for it. Sure thing! Hahahaha.
The only thing that's for sure in Medellin: The weather, and the fact that these girls are all lying [Deleted by Admin] who will sell their own abuela up the river for a buck. Don't fool yourselves, medellin is a shallow town that should not be taken seriously.
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Everything you said is true except the part about it being hidden. It's a well known club / disco with an entrance next to the beer store. Like all the other discos around the park, there is a doorman. Yes, hookers go through that disco, the park, all the other discos and bars near the park, and the surrounding streets. I get the feeling you were maybe imagining some sort of point and click casa at the park that would save the people the trouble of going to Centro? If you were, you should go back to the normal procedure to avoid disappointment.
Joe, I speak for a lot of readers. In El Poblado, by Parque Lleras, there is a hidden place above a bar with hookers? How obvious are they, and when was this? I fucking scrapped my ass into every club or bar last November and I got was one or two waiters that would point at ugly drunk chicas and ask me if I wanted to put jizz in their mouth.
Details. Details.
Are you talking about club Gusto?
Yes Gusto. It's not hidden, the girls are independents working in plain sight. Every time I was there, there were a bunch of obvious prepagos there. Didn't partake but my cousin was quoted 150000 pesos for everything. We are Hispanics who are fluent in Spanish and relatively younger so YMMV. In the end none of us partook.
YippieKayay
03-31-17, 18:44
Everything you said is true except the part about it being hidden. It's a well known club / disco with an entrance next to the beer store. Like all the other discos around the park, there is a doorman. Yes, hookers go through that disco, the park, all the other discos and bars near the park, and the surrounding streets. I get the feeling you were maybe imagining some sort of point and click casa at the park that would save the people the trouble of going to Centro? If you were, you should go back to the normal procedure to avoid disappointment.Back in November I saw hookers outside the liquor store (too young looking), and only once saw a group of three women with fake tits at one of the clubs. Everyone else looked like normal party goers out on the weekend hitting up parque lleras.
I agree. For some reason, guys love repeating this "you always end up paying" mantra. It's just not true. Plenty of young guys getting pussy for absolutely nothing. In fact, I'm guessing most on here remember the days of being able to hook up for nothing. Women enjoy sex too and not all are looking for a handout.
However, if you're 50+ and you want to bone hot 20 year-olds, yes you'll likely end up paying in some You do actually pay one way or another, regardless of what any of the Don Juans of the board say, LOL.
Might not be paying with money, but maybe time, drama, jealousies, etc, etc, etc.
What do I care though?
I don't.
Just happy to be alive, bouncing between Brazil and Colombia.
Paying for it, one way or another.
Though paying with money is the simplist and easiest fashion of payment.
Mr Enternational
04-01-17, 01:18
Are you talking about club Gusto?
Yes Gusto. It's not hidden, the girls are independents working in plain sight. Every time I was there, there were a bunch of obvious prepagos there. Didn't partake but my cousin was quoted 150000 pesos for everything. We are Hispanics who are fluent in Spanish and relatively younger so YMMV. In the end none of us partook.My buddy always gets his chicks from there as well for the same price. Black American. Nothing secret about it.
You do actually pay one way or another, regardless of what any of the Don Juans of the board say, LOL.
Might not be paying with money, but maybe time, drama, jealousies, etc, etc, etc. You just described the inconveniences of dealing with human beings in general. People can be a pain in the ass, especially when they aren't doing what you want them to do. Lolol Again the "you pay one way or another" mantra is an ego saving balm to make guys feel better about paying for pussy. Well guess what? You're a John, and not every guy is a John. Not every woman is a hooker. Sex doesn't always involve paying money as proven in recent posts. Which is okay with me. I can enjoy the hobby without embracing BS.
150 K is the great equalizer. LOL! That is so much money that I encourage everybody who pays it to imagine it would be more or the services would be less if they weren't who they are.
My buddy always gets his chicks from there as well for the same price. Black American. Nothing secret about it.
I laughed right out loud at the guy who said "believe it or not some guys don't have to pay".Hi DickRule,
#1. No posting while intoxicated.
Hey sorry to destroy the cherished monger culture myth, "you pay one way or another" but it simply isn't true that every woman except your mother or sister is a hooker. See my post here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2016155&viewfull=1#post2016155.
The good news is this, you can still enjoy this hobby without embracing BS.
Can't believe some of the cynical pessimistic stuff I'm reading here. If you're able to move freely around the globe and frequent special places like Colombia. You are of the super privileged. That's reason in itself to be optimistic about your ability to experience life. If you only regard women as gold-diggers where 'you have to pay one way or the other' - then you probably need to stop visiting spots like Medellin and start having real, humanized relationships with women. You then can come back to your travels with a brighter perspective on life where you don't regard pleasurable human experiences as simply mechanistic transactions.
You're in Colombia, bro. Smile. Respect the beautiful people around you. Repeat.
You just described the inconveniences of dealing with human beings in general. People can be a pain in the ass, especially when they aren't doing what you want them to do. Lolol Again the "you pay one way or another" mantra is an ego saving balm to make guys feel better about paying for pussy. Well guess what? You're a John, and not every guy is a John. Not every woman is a hooker. Sex doesn't always involve paying money as proven in recent posts. Which is okay with me. I can enjoy the hobby without embracing BS.Never said that all women are hookers, or that sex is always about money. Duh.
However, thanks for clarifying for us professor.
MikeKelimir
04-01-17, 20:43
I've been on for a few years, but never broke down and wrote a report. I know, I suck. But I did buy a membership yesterday.
At any rate, here for a couple weeks (6th time in last 12 months) and wanted to write a small update on a few things I think have changed a bit since I started coming down a few years ago.
1. Parque Lleras seems to get getting busier each time. There is a Starbucks there, and it seems to be just expanding outwards (restaurants and apartments). Still a great place to eat, party, and pretty much do anything.
2 a. Loutron (finding it) - I had heard about this place, and may people gushing over it. It's hard as hell to find unless the taxi actually knows how to get there. For anyone going, either get a taxi who knows exactly where it is (not "in the general area") or it (oddly) was in Waze (but not google maps or apple maps). The reason it was hard to find was that there is a 1,000 ft driveway and leads up to what appears to be a mansion which isn't visible from the road. So the taxi's couldn't really understand if they had found it. I made this mistake and we went, and left without finding it. Then the second time around we found it.
2 b. Loutron (inside) - Without a doubt, the inside is incredible compared to other casas or pensions or whatever your local-country term is. This is / was a large mansion (a real one) and was converted into a very "casa" - Its the only place I know of in Medellin that has a sit-down bar, tables and where you can go with a group of guys and actually chill on a balcony and drink. Kind of the same vibe as Zona Blue back in the day in Costa Rica. It's expensive (relatively) -- About $90 USD (280 k COP) for the girls. The drinks were middle priced. But overall just having a bar / chill place with my friends was great. As far as girls. Everyone has their own version of hot. But for me, this wasn't much different than the other places. I was thinking I would walk in and see just 10 after 10. Didn't happen. There were 10 girls, ranging 5 to 7. (FYI, my version of a 10 is more of a spinner type, Audrina Patridge or Emmanuele Chriqui) -- I don't like larger girls. I took the 7 and the experience was VERY good. She actually gave me a massage, stayed over the 60 minutes (maybe 75 ish) and was really chill (though we had pretty solid chemistry). One thing to note is that the girls still come out to present, and so you can't hang out and drink with them first (well I guess you could pay and do it, but we didn't). Overall, I would, without hesitation, recommend this place to anyone if not to just experience the way I wish all casas were: clean, nice, and professional, without the hospital lights.
3. Energy. My favorite spot. Yesterday the place was packed with about 20 girls. I found 2 x 9's. Overall, this place is pretty nice, a very wide selection, and 5 blocks from the Estadio Metro station.
4. Abydos. We stopped by for 30 minutes and had a beer. I had never been here before, and also never had been to Luna Lunera which is right across the street. There were only 4 girls, nothing special, but the staff was nice and the place was also pretty clean from what I saw.
5. New Life has a large selection also, but personally I just feel rushed when I'm there, like I'm in a fast-food restaurant. That being said. Go here anyway. No matter what. The number of girls is the same as Energy, its 1/2 the price, and it's worth a look.
A few other notes:
1. This was the first time I used Uber. And without hesitation, I will avoid taxis as much as I can in the future. Uber lets you pay automatically on your card, puts the address the driver's phone (so no more accidental "I went the wrong way" bullshit), and the best thing (in my opinion) -- the price is set and cheaper. So even if there is a bit of trouble finding a spot, you pay the flat rate before you get in the car.
2. For those of you into spinners, the 3 best places I have been here in the last year (I've been to many of the casas, strip clubs, the mansion, etc.) have been, in this order: Las Isla, Fase 2, and Energy. La Isla is expensive (300 for 30 minutes -- though they will tell you an hour and I guess you could push it), plus the drinks and taxi are expensive. Fase 2 is closer to the city, but the same issue with the drinks. Energy, dollar for dollar is the best value in this city based on my tastes.
3. The mansion -- It's called hotel m now. Great place and you can read reviews by others here. It seems like there have been less and less girls there compared to a couple years ago, and the internet is godawful if you have to actually make Skype calls, plus the construction noise that starts early. However, again, this is one of the few places you can meet other gringos, hang out in the same place next to a pool all day and have girls come and go. The value is still VERY solid for anyone looking for that, or anyone new to the country.
5. The metro. I used to swear by it. But during rush hours it's gotten a bit more crowded. Plus uber (considering it is point to point) just seems to be the better way for me to travel now.
6. Any of you who have a check / credit card that doesn't charge fees. I got a much higher conversion rate just withdrawing cash as I needed it. About 5% higher on the conversion, plus no fees (though that's my bank). Any of you who bring dollars, make sure you get NEW bills before bringing them here. Any wrinkled or ripped bills are scoffed at at the money-changing places and they will just not accept those bills.
7. I also broke down and started using facebook and tinder (since actually meeting girls here can be a pain in the ass sometimes). Once you add a few other guys here, and start adding the girls on their friends list, you will have about 100+ within days. Try to do this before arriving.
8. I got the Medellin casa list from the admin here- it's legit. I was originally wanting the map as well, but using uber and just putting the address from the text list, that served us very well. Everything on the casa list for Medellin was spot-on and that list alone is worth $20 of dealing with googling all that shit. I downloaded the PDF, imported into my phone and then just copied the addresses into uber as we went to each one. It does not get any easier than that.
9. Phone. For about $10, you can get a SIM plus about 10 days worth of internet (light browsing, whatsapp, etc). People don't text or call much here. Mostly they use FB messenger and Whatsapp. I wouldn't even bother trying to communicate with a female unless you use one of those two apps.
10. I use uber, but anyone looking to save money on the trip into the city from the airport. There are private shuttles right outside the terminal. Usually there is a guy screaming "San Diego" and another screaming "Central" -- Either one is about $3 USD (9,500 COP) and they drop you off downtown where you can taxi anywhere for pretty cheap.
11. Any of you using AirBnb- you might want to specifically ask the host if you can have guests, or try to read between the lines. We got our asses handed to us a few trips back because the guards at the apartments carded everyone and our host was pissed when we showed up at 11 pm with vodka and company.
TravelPlanet17
04-03-17, 01:47
First time in Medellin. Got a sick penthouse airbnb on the hill across from La Isla. Since its only a few minutes away by uber I checked it out. Host recommendation I had a 2 bedroom place. One bedroom for sex, one for sleeping. Awesome balcony with views of all of Medellin.
Got to La Isla around 10 pm on a Friday night. It was totally empty when I arrived and thought the place was closed, but bouncers were there so I went in. There were like 3 girls and 2 tables of guys and no strippers, but I figured wtf I'll wait it out. Had a beer and waited. A couple strippers showed up. They ask for tips after the dance because it's not like the states where you stack cash on the stage.
Around 11 the place started to get packed with girls. All types, shapes, sizes etc. I'd say when I was leaving around 11:30 was the sweet spot. Girls were there hunting but still clean (well maybe who knows what they do before they got there).
The exit fee is $180 k.
The girls want 300 k in house. Girl quoted me 800 K TLN but got her down to 500 k. Left with a girl after a few over priced drinks. She spent about 2 hours with me before heading back to the club or at least that's where the uber dropped her off.
The thing I like about this place compared to Casas is that the girls get naked on stage so you know exactly what you are getting. I don't like a girl that looks good in her cocktail dress then you get her naked and find funky nipples or scars. At that point its too late to change your mind. So this place at least you can see her naked then when she comes around asking for tips you buy her a drink if you like her.
Note on tips. Girls expect at least 2 k. Anything more than that is bonus to them, no tip and they will haggle you later so just get a 50 k note changed and hand it out.
The girl I took home wanted my number (Colombian SIM of course for whatsapp. She wanted facebook and my us number but fuck that noise) and to hangout the next day. She blew my phone up the next day wanting to hangout, seriously like 5 calls and 4 texts before I responded. I met her for lunch after an Escobar tour of the city and she was waiting at the spot with a 20 min heads up. After like 10 hours of hanging out; lunch, tour of her neighborhood, sex, pool, dinner, drinks, sketchy strip club, she said she wanted money. She started with 1 million pesos, but I negotiated her down to the same as the night before so 680 k. I balked at the extra 180 k cause we weren't at the club then she started saying things like "well we don't want problems do we, La isla is 5 minutes from your apartment. ". Not so subtly got the impression that 180 k was so I don't get robbed or whatever. I was kinda annoyed because at that point I'd rather find a new flavor girl but whatever we were haggling over 180 k (60 USD). Hit the ATM on the way back from zona rosa, sex again then she stayed till like 3 am even though I kept telling her I was ready for sleep, but with a naked Paisa hanging out on your balcony it's hard to really hard to actually kick her out. She wanted to hangout again on Sunday but I was bored of her.
I'm kinda newbie at this so guess that's GFE. Not really sure why she wants to spend so much time for the same amount of money but whatever, nice little weekend treat. Just the piece of advice I realized from this experience is that next time I go to La Isla (or really any casa I'm taking girls home from) be super picky of the girl cause it's not just a 30 min time I'm getting myself into but possible a whole weekend experience so for the time spent its worth getting your ideal girl.
Never said that all women are hookers, or that sex is always about money. Duh.
However, thanks for clarifying for us professor.I'm honored to have been of assistance.
Mr Enternational
04-03-17, 07:40
The exit fee is $180 k.
The girls want 300 k in house. Girl quoted me 800 K TLN but got her down to 500 k. Left with a girl after a few over priced drinks. She spent about 2 hours with me before heading back to the club or at least that's where the uber dropped her off.
The thing I like about this place compared to Casas is that the girls get naked on stage so you know exactly what you are getting. I don't like a girl that looks good in her cocktail dress then you get her naked and find funky nipples or scars. 2 problems with that that I can think of right off the bat are: First, you can get 10 casa girls for the price of 1 La Isla girl. I would say at least 1 out of the 10 you wouldn't find any funky nipples or scars on. Second, say you spot a chick in La Isla that you want to fuck. Are you going to wait 3 hours until her time comes up to dance on the stage in order to see her naked first? Then you find out she has a funky nipple or scars, you have just wasted 3 fucking hours.
Mr Enternational
04-03-17, 07:47
I2 b. Loutron (inside) - Its the only place I know of in Medellin that has a sit-down bar, tables and where you can go with a group of guys and actually chill on a balcony and drink. Kind of the same vibe as Zona Blue back in the day in Costa Rica. It's expensive (relatively) -- About $90 USD (280 k COP) for the girls. The drinks were middle priced. But overall just having a bar / chill place with my friends was great. Actually there are several casas that I go to close to downtown that are like that. Sit in the den on couches and drink with your buddies and the girls or go out on the balcony and do the same. They will even go get you food if you want. Then you can go into one of the bedrooms and fuck for 40 K.
HumanBeing1
04-03-17, 08:44
Actually there are several casas that I go to close to downtown that are like that. Sit in the den on couches and drink with your buddies and the girls or go out on the balcony and do the same. They will even go get you food if you want. Then you can go into one of the bedrooms and fuck for 40 K.What are those places named? I'll be there this week.
YippieKayay
04-03-17, 10:45
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The exit fee is $180 k.
The girls want 300 k in house. Girl quoted me 800 K TLN but got her down to 500 k. Left with a girl after a few over priced drinks. She spent about 2 hours with me before heading back to the club or at least that's where the uber dropped her off.
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Note on tips. Girls expect at least 2 k. Anything more than that is bonus to them, no tip and they will haggle you later so just get a 50 k note changed and hand it out.
The girl I took home wanted my number (Colombian SIM of course for whatsapp. She wanted facebook and my us number but fuck that noise) and to hangout the next day. She blew my phone up the next day wanting to hangout, seriously like 5 calls and 4 texts before I responded. I met her for lunch after an Escobar tour of the city and she was waiting at the spot with a 20 min heads up. After like 10 hours of hanging out; lunch, tour of her neighborhood, sex, pool, dinner, drinks, sketchy strip club, she said she wanted money. She started with 1 million pesos, but I negotiated her down to the same as the night before so 680 k. I balked at the extra 180 k cause we weren't at the club then she started saying things like "well we don't want problems do we, La isla is 5 minutes from your apartment. ". Not so subtly got the impression that 180 k was so I don't get robbed or whatever.
I'm kinda newbie at this so guess that's GFE. Seriously you went on the "Escobar tour" after you got ripped off? Then you found her waiting for you to rip you off again? 680 k? Are you fucking out of your skull?
Its GFE if you like being ripped off. Holy shit.
Mr Enternational
04-03-17, 13:21
She wanted to hangout again on Sunday but I was bored of her.LOL. She didn't want to hangout again on Sunday. She just wanted another $300 on Sunday! To put that shit in perspective, when my girlfriend goes to the states a few months out of the year, she has to send $100/month back to Colombia to maintain her 15 year old daughter.
Yakuza will let you use their WiFi.
Actually there are several casas that I go to close to downtown that are like that. Sit in the den on couches and drink with your buddies and the girls or go out on the balcony and do the same. They will even go get you food if you want. Then you can go into one of the bedrooms and fuck for 40 K.
TravelPlanet17
04-03-17, 15:25
Seriously you went on the "Escobar tour" after you got ripped off? Then you found her waiting for you to rip you off again? 680 k? Are you fucking out of your skull?
Its GFE if you like being ripped off. Holy shit.LOL like I said. I'm a newbie. I thought that was cheap. Hahaha. What would be a better strategy? Talk about cost up front? What would you negotiate for?
TravelPlanet17
04-03-17, 15:27
Joe, I speak for a lot of readers. In El Poblado, by Parque Lleras, there is a hidden place above a bar with hookers? How obvious are they, and when was this? I fucking scrapped my ass into every club or bar last November and I got was one or two waiters that would point at ugly drunk chicas and ask me if I wanted to put jizz in their mouth.
Details. Details.It's called "Gusto".
I'm kinda newbie at this so guess that's GFE. Not really sure why she wants to spend so much time for the same amount of money but whatever, nice little weekend treat. Just the piece of advice I realized from this experience is that next time I go to La Isla (or really any casa I'm taking girls home from) be super picky of the girl cause it's not just a 30 min time I'm getting myself into but possible a whole weekend experience so for the time spent its worth getting your ideal girl.You rented a "sick penthouse" in that area of Medellin and don't understand why she wanted to spend so much time with you? She saw great big dollar signs. In 2 days she made enough to cover 3 weeks of her expenses (or more, depending on where she's living). She was probably figuring on getting you hooked on her, so you'll drop a bundle on her each trip.
GFE is usually just based upon whether or not kissing and full access is allowed, not on whether she gets you to spend money on her all day.
Glad to hear you had a good time.
You rented a "sick penthouse" in that area of Medellin and don't understand why she wanted to spend so much time with you? She saw great big dollar signs. In 2 days she made enough to cover 3 weeks of her expenses (or more, depending on where she's living). She was probably figuring on getting you hooked on her, so you'll drop a bundle on her each trip.
GFE is usually just based upon whether or not kissing and full access is allowed, not on whether she gets you to spend money on her all day.
Glad to hear you had a good time.
LOL. She didn't want to hangout again on Sunday. She just wanted another $300 on Sunday! To put that shit in prespective, when my girlfriend goes to the states a few months out of the year, she has to send $100/month back to Colombia to maintain her 15 year old daughter.
Seriously you went on the "Escobar tour" after you got ripped off? Then you found her waiting for you to rip you off again? 680 k? Are you fucking out of your skull?
Its GFE if you like being ripped off. Holy shit.
2 problems with that that I can think of right off the bat are: First, you can get 10 casa girls for the price of 1 La Isla girl. I would say at least 1 out of the 10 you wouldn't find any funky nipples or scars on. Second, say you spot a chick in La Isla that you want to fuck. Are you going to wait 3 hours until her time comes up to dance on the stage in order to see her naked first? Then you find out she has a funky nipple or scars, you have just wasted 3 fucking hours.These responses illustrate where the Medellin board seems to fail in comparison to other forums. I understand what you all see in TravelPlanet's post. On some levels I am a little surprised he revealed it and wonder if he has much experience here on the Medellin board- probably not much or would have known his report would be received with some form of shock and awe. Compared to what TP has available in the US (he actually did ok, I guess. But that is not the standard one should take to Colombia. It's actually kind of dangerous considering the girl intimated harm if he didn't comply. She's obviously a barrio girl and they are most always predators if you show them an opening.
These kinds of posts are learning experiences and teaching moments. I'm glad he shared his report because it serves as a reminder. One can go four or five trips without a hitch, forget the basics or get cocky, and then find himself on the losing end of a deal because he just forgot he is in Colombia. TP made the understandable mistake of believing that a penthouse and money makes them act human and decent. It does not. They can be very disrespectful.
Sadly, this girl that walked with a month's income will have wasted most of it within a few days. They just cannot handle success.
But for the love of the hobby, teach, don't talk down. There is no need to ridicule. I realize it is frustrating to hear but I am glad he posted the report because being reminded of how things really are. I learn from every report that was a successful trip but more from someone posting what might not have gone well.
YippieKayay
04-03-17, 18:41
But for the love of the hobby, teach, don't talk down. There is no need to ridicule. I realize it is frustrating to hear but I am glad he posted the report because being reminded of how things really are. I learn from every report that was a successful trip but more from someone posting what might not have gone well.I wasn't trying to ridicule and we've PM'd a bit since the post. The problem is I don't believe the poster was aware of World Travelers list or the pricing in Colombia despite this information being available on this forum. It's not so hard to find. He didn't overpay. He got taken advantage of and she was happy to keep doing it. He could easily have two prepagos living with him for what he's paying her.
LOL like I said. I'm a newbie. I thought that was cheap. Hahaha. What would be a better strategy? Talk about cost up front? What would you negotiate for?
You shouldn't be paying more than 200k for short time in Medellin. In the casas its significantly cheaper, but if you're going to pick up outside, stay away from the strip clubs and never go over 200k. Believe me most of these girls aren't so busy. They'll agree to 150-200k. The Colombian peso has also been moving higher and you can always mention that.
It's called "Gusto".
What time does it get hopping and how many girls are there? Anyone want to post impressions on it?
The Colombian peso has also been moving higher and you can always mention that.
I've noticed. Anyone have any idea if this will continue? I read they have low inflation is helping the Peso strengthen.
Reading the forum can be tedious and time consuming, but it is a good way to avoid mistakes like over paying or ending up in a risky situation.
These responses illustrate where the Medellin board seems to fail in comparison to other forums. I understand what you all see in TravelPlanet's post. On some levels I am a little surprised he revealed it and wonder if he has much experience here on the Medellin board- probably not much or would have known his report would be received with some form of shock and awe. Compared to what TP has available in the US (he actually did ok, I guess. But that is not the standard one should take to Colombia. It's actually kind of dangerous considering the girl intimated harm if he didn't comply. She's obviously a barrio girl and they are most always predators if you show them an opening.
These kinds of posts are learning experiences and teaching moments. I'm glad he shared his report because it serves as a reminder. One can go four or five trips without a hitch, forget the basics or get cocky, and then find himself on the losing end of a deal because he just forgot he is in Colombia. TP made the understandable mistake of believing that a penthouse and money makes them act human and decent. It does not. They can be very disrespectful.
Sadly, this girl that walked with a month's income will have wasted most of it within a few days. They just cannot handle success.
But for the love of the hobby, teach, don't talk down. There is no need to ridicule. I realize it is frustrating to hear but I am glad he posted the report because being reminded of how things really are. I learn from every report that was a successful trip but more from someone posting what might not have gone well.
I agree with you except the part about mentioning the strength of the Colombian peso. I don't think the girls care about or understand foreign exchange. For them, a peso is a peso. I don't understand what concern they would have about how pesos line up against the currency a punter uses back home. It's not unlike the idea of justifying paying three times the going rate because it's still cheaper than what it would cost in London or Toronto.
I wasn't trying to ridicule and we've PM'd a bit since the post. The problem is I don't believe the poster was aware of World Travelers list or the pricing in Colombia despite this information being available on this forum. It's not so hard to find. He didn't overpay. He got taken advantage of and she was happy to keep doing it. He could easily have two prepagos living with him for what he's paying her.
You shouldn't be paying more than 200k for short time in Medellin. In the casas its significantly cheaper, but if you're going to pick up outside, stay away from the strip clubs and never go over 200k. Believe me most of these girls aren't so busy. They'll agree to 150-200k. The Colombian peso has also been moving higher and you can always mention that.
What time does it get hopping and how many girls are there? Anyone want to post impressions on it?
YippieKayay
04-03-17, 19:11
I've noticed. Anyone have any idea if this will continue? I read they have low inflation is helping the Peso strengthen.http://www.tradingeconomics.com/colombia/inflation-cpi
Inflation is almost half what it used to be from last year. I'm not sure how that impacts the value of the currency. I thought the peso is more tied to the price of oil.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/colombia/inflation-cpi
Inflation is almost half what it used to be from last year. I'm not sure how that impacts the value of the currency. I thought the peso is more tied to the price of oil.I believe you are correct. Oil prices look to go higher this year. I could live with 2500 but 2000 makes other locations an equal option.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/01/24/what-does-2017-hold-for-oil-prices.aspx
Mr Enternational
04-03-17, 20:57
I've noticed. Anyone have any idea if this will continue? I read they have low inflation is helping the Peso strengthen.If anyone could possibly tell you that with any assurance it would be the easiest way to get rich. It would be the same as them giving you the winning lotto numbers.
I returned a week ago from a 12-day trip to Medellin. I have been there multiple times each year for the past six years. I rely on Facebook for meeting the chicas. Many are repeats from previous trips, but I always try to see at least one new chica each trip. Only a couple of times I've had a problem with the chica not showing up or not informing me beforehand.
Something changed on the last trip, and I hope it is not a trend. I arrange meetings a few days ahead and send a remainder the day before the planned meeting. Three arrangements, all with new chicas, went awry. The first evening I was there, the chica (new friend on FB) sent a message about the time of our scheduled meeting, and asked if she could bring a girlfriend. Since I had not met either chica, I told her no. She then decided she couldn't come alone. She contacted me a few times later, but our schedules never coincided.
The second incident happened the next night. A longtime FB friend who I had never met was scheduled. I was a little skeptical of her because I hadn't seen any comments on FB to indicate she was working. She communicated prior to our scheduled time to let me know everything was good. Later, she sent a message that she was in a taxi, but traffic was very bad. I believed that because it was raining, and Thursday evening. Then she went silent. I called more than an hour later and a guy answered the phone. I asked for her, but no one came back to the phone. The next day, she sent a message that she was involved in an accident and had to go to the hospital. A few days later, she contacted me again. I told her I did not believe she was in an accident, because she had posted photos and she didn't appear to have an injuries. Anyway, I didn't see her.
The third was another longtime FB friend. I sent a message the day before our scheduled meeting. I never heard from her until the next day, just telling me she could not meet me that day. Then she never responded to the next message.
A fourth incident was a different scenario. I had seen the chica before, and she had nice large natural boobs. The chica who showed up was not the same chica. The new chica had just gotten a boob job, and it was terrible IMO. It was one where they cut from the nipple to the base of the boob. The scars were fairly new. She had also gotten butt implants, and her cheeks were still bruised. The profile on FB has evolved two times from the chica I originally saw to the current chica.
After all that drama, I still had a great time and was with as many chicas as I wanted. I will probably return next month if I can get my schedule coordinated with some doctors' schedules.
I don't want to publish any chica's name, because maybe I just hit an unlucky streak. If anyone is curious, I will send info by PM.
YippieKayay
04-04-17, 00:08
Something changed on the last trip, and I hope it is not a trend. I arrange meetings a few days ahead and send a remainder the day before the planned meeting. Three arrangements, all with new chicas, went awry. The first evening I was there, the chica (new friend on FB) sent a message about the time of our scheduled meeting, and asked if she could bring a girlfriend. Since I had not met either chica, I told her no. She then decided she couldn't come alone. She contacted me a few times later, but our schedules never coincided.
This is pretty standard behavior in Colombia when they go dating. On the first date she'll bring a friend as a chaperone. A prepago might do it to check you out the first time and make sure she wants to work with you.
I agree with you except the part about mentioning the strength of the Colombian peso. I don't think the girls care about or understand foreign exchange. For them, a peso is a peso. I don't understand what concern they would have about how pesos line up against the currency a punter uses back home. It's not unlike the idea of justifying paying three times the going rate because it's still cheaper than what it would cost in London or Toronto.
I've had a couple of girls bring it up when trying to get 300k. They would say it's only 100 USD.
Just landed in Medellin, map feature is not showing up. Any idea how to get it back up?
Black Page
04-04-17, 11:02
These responses illustrate where the Medellin board seems to fail in comparison to other forums.In my country there is a proverb saying "the merciful doctor makes you gangrene".
Some frank and direct words, harsh but straight to the point, could open eyes and "save a life". I believe that this man needed a "slap" to wake up :D Some laughs here make no harm, whilst another experience like that must not be repeated.
In my country there is a proverb saying "the merciful doctor makes you gangrene".
Some frank and direct words, harsh but straight to the point, could open eyes and "save a life". I believe that this man needed a "slap" to wake up :D Some laughs here make no harm, whilst another experience like that must not be repeated.I had no intention to ridicule the guy. He has a higher budget than most of the people here, so he is spending more. Nothing wrong with that. If I had the money, I'd probably do the same thing.
There would be a few differences. I wouldn't be paying TLN for someone I'd just met. If I did, she wouldn't be going back to the club after 2 hours. If I paid TLN and she left after 2 hours, she certainly wouldn't be hanging with me the next day, unless she had agreed to a much lower price.
No matter what, I'd never pay a takeout fee if I didn't take her direct from the club.
If you want to live large, rent the big penthouse, but you're also renting a few unexpected things with it. Any woman you bring back sees you as ridiculously wealthy. You've taken someone who is probably still living with family, in a rough neighborhood and brought them to a palace.
You're frequently going to get a couple of reactions. Some women want to get as much of it as they can. They want to get some status with you, find some way to tie you down.
It's not something they can get from a Colombian. A Colombian living in a comparable situation is unlikely to bring a club or casa girl home. They'll either use a love motel, or the rooms on site.
The other response, which is the one he encountered, is to grab as much as you can, while you can. The next day the woman blew up his phone. She wanted to get to him before he went looking for someone else. If he was going to spend money, she wanted to be the one he spent it on.
The second incident happened the next night. A longtime FB friend who I had never met was scheduled. I was a little skeptical of her because I hadn't seen any comments on FB to indicate she was working. She communicated prior to our scheduled time to let me know everything was good. Later, she sent a message that she was in a taxi, but traffic was very bad.
After all that drama, I still had a great time and was with as many chicas as I wanted. I will probably return next month if I can get my schedule coordinated with some doctors' schedules.Reminds of the old meme.
If she says she in taxi, means she is thinking about getting ready.
If she she says traffic is bad, it means she is putting on makeup.
If she says she is 5 minutes away, it means she is just getting in the taxi.
World Travel 69
04-04-17, 14:46
Some guys have trouble with their cell phones. Look on a computer.
Just landed in Medellin, map feature is not showing up. Any idea how to get it back up?
You nailed it.
I had no intention to ridicule the guy. He has a higher budget than most of the people here, so he is spending more. Nothing wrong with that. If I had the money, I'd probably do the same thing.
There would be a few differences. I wouldn't be paying TLN for someone I'd just met. If I did, she wouldn't be going back to the club after 2 hours. If I paid TLN and she left after 2 hours, she certainly wouldn't be hanging with me the next day, unless she had agreed to a much lower price.
No matter what, I'd never pay a takeout fee if I didn't take her direct from the club..
I agree it's not unusual for a girl to bring a chaperone first time out. It's for safety reasons. I'm OK with it if she asks first. I walk away if it happens unannounced.
As for the exchange rate discussion, my advice is redirect the conversation to reality: we're in Colombia and these are pesos. It's a slippery slope justifying prices based on what they would be in another place. Think about those $6 bottles of water in airport shops that cost $1 in supermarkets. Would any of us consider paying $6 in a supermarket because we know it costs that much at an airport shop?
This is pretty standard behavior in Colombia when they go dating. On the first date she'll bring a friend as a chaperone. A prepago might do it to check you out the first time and make sure she wants to work with you.
I've had a couple of girls bring it up when trying to get 300k. They would say it's only 100 USD.
Eszpresszo
04-04-17, 15:21
I've noticed. Anyone have any idea if this will continue? I read they have low inflation is helping the Peso strengthen.I have been watching currency rates fluctuate since I began to travel abroad in the late 70's. There is no way to predict currency fluctuations. I discussed it with my Economics 101 professor, and asked if could make money trading currencies. He set me straight on that. Another professor explained the theory on currency exchange rates even deeper, though that was around 1980. Since then all economic theory that seemed to work well, has failed to work in today's environment of low interest rates. As as example of that, note that if traditional economic theory applied now, the US would have been in hyperinflation mode years ago due to ultra low interest rates.
All I do know is that currency trends tend to last for than a few years. The US dollar was weak for a decade, and now that it has strengthened, I expect it will remain that way for awhile. Someone mentioned that they thought the COP was related to oil. But, Colombia is not a big exporter of oil, so I doubt that. Besides, in the old days, the strength of the USD was relative to the price of oil, and vice versa. That old paradigm is gone, as well. As Mr. E pointed out, if we could predict currency rates, we could be making easy money off that knowledge. You might as well try to tell me where the S&P 500 is going to be on the next 4th of July.
In my country there is a proverb saying "the merciful doctor makes you gangrene".
Some frank and direct words, harsh but straight to the point, could open eyes and "save a life". I believe that this man needed a "slap" to wake up :D Some laughs here make no harm, whilst another experience like that must not be repeated.I'm good with that. I completely agree. So much to learn from that experience just could not leave it at "you f-ked up".
Love the airport water analogy- spot on.
On currency, damn it hope we stay strong and Eszpresszo is correct. On a side note, I was expecting (hoping) Brazil's Real to tank. About six months ago I heard from a Brazilian acquaintance their govt had lost or stolen hundreds of billions from the national treasury and that it was going to hurt the country's credibility badly. Hoped that would push it past 4-1. Has not happened.
I can predict exactly what currency exchange rates are going to do. PM me if you want to know.
Stopped by Yakusa yesterday on my walk around Centro.
Not a flaquita to be found.
I also stopped in Chicas.Com, where I found a few spinners.
Mariana, a nice flaquita, 26 years old, but looks 18.
Nothing earth shattering, but very accommodating.
Kinda of funny, but in my last few visits to Medellin, I've found my best girls in Centro, on the streets.
Some cuties in the area of zombies and glue sniffers.
Found another yesterday. Very pretty, very sweet, very GFE.
A little kindness and sense of humor goes a long way with these girls.
30 cop per 30 minutes in Centro. I stayed with her for an hour, then had a drink with her at one of the dive bars in the area.
She said she goes to Parque Lleras on weekends and commands 200-300 cop per hour depending on the gringo.
She's on her way over now in an Uber I sent for her.
Told her I'd help her with $ of what I thought was right, she agreed.
As a side note, Uber is great that you know the girl is actually inbound and when she'll arrive.
Takes the arrival BS out of the equation.
YippieKayay
04-04-17, 20:38
Stopped by Yakusa yesterday on my walk around Centro.
Not a flaquita to be found.
Do they at least have any tall ones? I recall they were all short, fat and young last time I was there.
Kinda of funny, but in my last few visits to Medellin, I've found my best girls in Centro, on the streets.
Some cuties in the area of zombies and glue sniffers.
Is the zombies and sniffer area by Raudlin? Down the street from Motel Eros. Is that Raudlin place an actual bar?
She said she goes to Parque Lleras on weekends and commands 200-300 cop per hour depending on the gringo.
That's funny, hahaha.
Is the zombies and sniffer area by Raudlin? Down the street from Motel Eros. Is that Raudlin place an actual bar?Raudal is on the NW corner of Calle 53 & Carr 54. It was closed when I was there in the day, I think it is a bar.
The glue sniffer's are more around the little white church at Calle 51 & Carr 54 next to Plaza Botero.
The biggest factor for the exchange rate going forward is how the peace agreement is going. If FARC and the government generally abide by the terms of the accord, the Peso will strengthen against the USD. If not, it will weaken. Yes relative interest rates and inflation rates matter, but in the case of Colombia they are overridden by security concerns. If things go well, investment will flow into the country which will bolster the currency.
The exchange rate "shouldn't" matter for what we pay the girls. However, a few dim-witted Gringos have insisted on explaining it to the girls. Maybe some Brits or Canadians should explain how their currencies have fallen and therefore they should pay less.
The cost of water in the airport vs the grocery store is instructive. Also instructive is the typical wage in Colombia vs the typical wage in the US, Canada, or Europe. A typical monthly wage in Colombia is about 700,000 pesos. That should give you a good guideline for what to pay the girls. Hint - a fraction of what you'd pay in your own country.
HumanBeing1
04-05-17, 02:24
I'll be in Mdellin this weekend.
Any suggestions on what places are good on Sundays usually? I've found Latin America to be less open on Sundays. What are the hot spots for drinks and what are the best casas on Sunday?
Any suggestions on what to do other than mongering and drinking? I figure we'll look around the parks, maybe do that cable car, see a couple of escobar sights. Anything else? I don't think we'll have the time to go out to Guatape.
One more thing. A friend of mine said Escobar's house that he was caught in is now a brothel. Anyone been? Is it simple to get to? He said a friend of his got him in and implied that it wasn't as easy as the other ones.
After reading through the forums I decided to book my stay for the first few nights near Lleras park. (By the way it's pronounced Yaris Parkay I've been told).
The girls walking the street were young, and hot. Some of them approached me, other times it was their handlers. Really not pushy compared to Bangkok.
Prices quoted were 200 k on average, 150 if I balked. These prices were per hour.
I didn't pick any up, because I didn't want to pay for the price of a short time, possibly a guest fee and a girl. Not a bad idea if you have a place.
The second day I went and called an uber 10k to take me to Balcones de Cuba.
There I almost panicked. I've been in knock shops all around, but this was an odd situation.
There was a fat older woman standing in front and I walked right up her. She looked very confused. The fact I don't speak Spanish didn't help. She called over 3 younger guys. I thought, great. Time to get mugged.
I pantomimed asking about girls, massage. Nothing.
Finally I asked for it by name. Hotel Balcones de Cuba.
The guys pointed out a building five feet from the old lady on the corner. It has a giant white metal gate.
Heading to the gate I was buzzed in.
Kind of odd. I walked in, and there was a receptionist who just sort of glared at me.
I asked about massage. She indicated that I should head upstairs.
Heading up some stairs I finally have a guy who speaks English to me.
He explained that 30 minutes was 36 k and an hour was (I think) 56 k.
Then he knocked on each room.
I waited then as girls popped out of the rooms.
Here was another strange thing.
The girls didn't stay in the foyer. They popped out 1 by 1 shook my hand gave their name and then popped back into their respective rooms. About 6 of them.
On average they were too chubby and old for me. Maybe 6's and 8's at Lleras park. Roughly 30's. And over 20% BMI. If you like curvy big butted girls these were for you.
The guy came back and and asked mde the name of the girl I liked. I picked one. He brought in towels, soap and a condom.
The girl took off her top and bottom and got ready. No shower. For me or her.
She didn't insist I put on a condom.
I did anyway.
I was a little scared of that willingness to bareback, do I skipped my normal asking for a BBBJ.
I finished in 20 minutes, headed down where again the guy was nowhere to be found.
I tried to pay the receptionist. No dice.
Eventually I went back up and the guy was there to be paid.
After that I grabbed a cab back to lleras park. Or at least I tried to. I flagged down 3 cabs before 1 was willing to go there.
Definitely a sketchy neighborhood, do I was glad to get out before dark.
I'm 5 10,200 lbs, muscular and tattooed but I'd still never risk hanging out in that neighbourhood after dark.
Still 36 k for a quickie? I'm pretty happy with that.
Do they at least have any tall ones? I recall they were all short, fat and young last time I was there.
Is the zombies and sniffer area by Raudlin? Down the street from Motel Eros. Is that Raudlin place an actual bar?
That's funny, hahaha.Haha, short, fat and young about sums them up at Yakusa.
At least yesterday.
The Radual is an area near Eros.
Not sure if one the dive bars is actually called that though.
Haven't seen a good looking girl there in a while.
I've found some keepers around Parque Botero.
Keep your radar on high and eyes open in that area.
At all times, but most especiallly at night.
There are eyes on you for sure, especially if you're being dumb.
(Flashing money, cell, watch, etc).
Don't linger in an area with no people traffic about.
I may check out Face Dos tonite.
Haven't been there in a bit.
See the other side of the tracks.
I'll report back.
YippieKayay
04-05-17, 10:31
After reading through the forums I decided to book my stay for the first few nights near Lleras park. (By the way it's pronounced Yaris Parkay I've been told).Almost. It's pronounced "Parka Yaris. " I bet you got some smiles saying "Yaris Parkay. ".
The girls walking the street were young, and hot. Some of them approached me, other times it was their handlers. Really not pushy compared to Bangkok.
Prices quoted were 200 k on average, 150 if I balked. These prices were per hour.
I didn't pick any up, because I didn't want to pay for the price of a short time, possibly a guest fee and a girl. Not a bad idea if you have a place.
There has been discussion of these girls in the past and some of them may not be of age. Everything in El Poblado will be more expensive.
The second day I went and called an uber 10k to take me to Balcones de Cuba.
There I almost panicked. I've been in knock shops all around, but this was an odd situation.
There was a fat older woman standing in front ...
After that I grabbed a cab back to lleras park. Or at least I tried to. I flagged down 3 cabs before 1 was willing to go there.
...
Still 36 k for a quickie? I'm pretty happy with that.Just a couple of things. What made you go to that place? There are dozens of other brothels.
Don't be surprised if cabs refuse to go from centro to El Poblado or vice versa. It's a lot of traffic. Most people take the metro.
I'll be in Mdellin this weekend.
Any suggestions on what places are good on Sundays usually? I've found Latin America to be less open on Sundays. What are the hot spots for drinks and what are the best casas on Sunday?
Any suggestions on what to do other than mongering and drinking? I figure we'll look around the parks, maybe do that cable car, see a couple of escobar sights. Anything else? I don't think we'll have the time to go out to Guatape.
One more thing. A friend of mine said Escobar's house that he was caught in is now a brothel. Anyone been? Is it simple to get to? He said a friend of his got him in and implied that it wasn't as easy as the other ones.
Go to the Medellin Lists thread and read the pdf there. It lists the hours on Sundays for the brothels. Don't be a dick and go around Medellin asking about Escobar's house. That's like going to Afghanistan and asking for Osama's house. It's fucked up. Don't do it.
Black Page
04-05-17, 10:57
Almost. It's pronounced "Parka Yaris. " I bet you got some smiles saying "Yaris Parkay. "EEK?? I don't know what language speaker would make those be pronounced like "Parque Lleras", but I am pretty sure that if anyone tries either "Parka Yaris" or "Yaris Parkay" will be not understood ROFL.
Black Page
04-05-17, 11:00
Raudal is on the NW corner of Calle 53 & Carr 54. It was closed when I was there in the day, I think it is a bar.Raudal is an area, not a bar. It's the whole area down at a couple of blocks West from Prado metro station with bars and nightlife (not recommended to gringos who do not speak perfect Spanish and can blend in).
Black Page
04-05-17, 11:13
After reading through the forums I decided to book my stay for the first few nights near Lleras park. (By the way it's pronounced Yaris Parkay I've been told).
The girls walking the street were young, and hot. Some of them approached me, other times it was their handlers. Really not pushy compared to Bangkok.
A word of caution for everyone.
Girls in Parque LLeras are never not of age (or at least I've never seen any girl there who looks borderline). I bet in most cases they could be a good option, but overpriced, as you have witnessed (the place is for tourists, especially from USA; US tourists have money; many tourists are not price-conscious ==> it's a gold mine for girls).
I have met in the past a couple of girls there, who tried, after a few drinks in a bar 2 blocks from the Parque, to take my cell phone from my pocket while hugging me dancing (just tried: I took it back from her hand asking like naively "why is it in your hands?" and she replied it was falling). I believe that every place where rich tourists hang out are also a haven for scammers and a variety of thieves. Just be careful and always keep your hands where you keep your things.
Better take ONE girl than two in a room of a love motel or where you stay, until you don't know who is she and you know she's a good honest one. While it may be difficult to keep one girl under control at all times in the room (go to the toilet and a trained thief can take something from your pockets in seconds), it's virtually impossible to keep under control TWO girls. I do that, but almost always with girls I know already.
The second day I went and called an uber 10k to take me to Balcones de Cuba.
Definitely a sketchy neighborhood, do I was glad to get out before dark.
I'm 5 10,200 lbs, muscular and tattooed but I'd still never risk hanging out in that neighbourhood after dark.
It's right in the Centro, not in the worst sector but still the Centro, where NOBODY IF NOT EXPERIENCED should go at night. Being muscular does not help, as the danger is not a fight, but a rob.
El Mechanico
04-05-17, 14:21
Don't be a dick and go around Medellin asking about Escobar's house. That's like going to Afghanistan and asking for Osama's house. It's fucked up. Don't do it.I was in the MDE in Dec & went to Escobars grave, safe house & the "Prison" & had no trouble whatsoever. I was not standing in the middle of Par-kay Yair-as on a bench yelling though. I simply had a map & asked the Uber driver to bring me there & it was not a problem.
El Mechanico.
I have no comment on the Parque Lleras pronunciation. The guy said he does not speak Spanish.
It is a rare taxi that won't accept a fare from El Poblado to Centro. Finding a taxi to bring you back is not as easy, as the original poster discovered. Any of the casas will call a taxi for you. You can also hail an uber and wait for it at the casa. The metro is OK, buses are also good and there are more convenient bus stops. For 9 k to 10 k from Poblado, I don't know why anyone wouldn't use uber.
Almost. It's pronounced "Parka Yaris. " I bet you got some smiles saying "Yaris Parkay. ".
Don't be surprised if cabs refuse to go from centro to El Poblado or vice versa. It's a lot of traffic. Most people take the metro.
Raudal is an area, not a bar. It's the whole area down at a couple of blocks West from Prado metro station with bars and nightlife (not recommended to gringos who do not speak perfect Spanish and can blend in).Actually I think it is also a bar, here it is, corner of Calle 53 & Carrera 54.
Black Page
04-06-17, 11:09
Actually I think it is also a bar, here it is, corner of Calle 53 & Carrera 54.I insist. Trust me or not, I am familiar with the subject, as I've been in Medellin a good number of times since 2006 (OMG! How fast time flies.).
Raudal is indeed the name of that area, loosely speaking the most traditional entertainment district, although bars and clubs spread all around the Centro (if you see a place with the sign "GRILL", don't enter the premises looking for a steak).
What you show in the photo is not the name of the club, but most likely just a sign that says "you are in Raudal at #3" (the sign does not belong to the bar). At most, it could be a bar that takes the name from the area (something like "bar of Raudal #3).
In other words, imagine that you are in New Orleans and you see a sign over a club saying "French Quarter #3". You will not conclude that it is the name of the club, although it is possible (yet unlikely).
Can we agree you are both at least a little correct and get back to talking about the girls? Street address names and numbers are specific enough after all.
I insist. Trust me or not, I am familiar with the subject, as I've been in Medellin a good number of times since 2006 (OMG! How fast time flies.).
Raudal is indeed the name of that area, loosely speaking the most traditional entertainment district, although bars and clubs spread all around the Centro (if you see a place with the sign "GRILL", don't enter the premises looking for a steak).
What you show in the photo is not the name of the club, but most likely just a sign that says "you are in Raudal at #3" (the sign does not belong to the bar). At most, it could be a bar that takes the name from the area (something like "bar of Raudal #3).
In other words, imagine that you are in New Orleans and you see a sign over a club saying "French Quarter #3". You will not conclude that it is the name of the club, although it is possible (yet unlikely).
C Jack Sparrow
04-08-17, 10:14
In Colombia you can have sex from age 14.
You can pay for sex from 18.
Porn is 18 or 20.
If you go to a casa and have sex there, you assume she is 18. I now realize that a few of the girls at casas in el centro may not been 18. Should one ask for her cedula before sex?
On the site Latineuro I met a nympho-model, claimed to be 19, but was 17, she finally confessed.
She was from a distant town so after 6 months of begging, I invited her to my apartment in Laureles. A Godess! But she did not want to have any money and I did not offer any.
But even if she was a Perfect Ten, there is a risk. She can / will certainly / as all latinas pick a fight. If police come by and see that she is under 18, she had just 9 days left to her birthday, I still have anxiety about that weekend.
Also: If you rent an apartment and are alone; never take home more than one girl, at least at night time.
I stayed in Medellin a semester and ended up with experiences / rutines; control of her cedula, she can send a photo from her celular, that she not bring a friend nighttime, check her behavior, she is likely to have taken some "pericero" or mariujana to relax, both for the sex, but more for doing a crime. A code-secure-box, fixed to the wall, best set in your closet, that you can also have extra locks on.
If I had 15 girls in my apartment, 5 "amigas", there where no risk. But 3-5 made me nervous. One part is loosing my documents, another the scandal factor, and the police factor, even if they say you are innocent.
If I would do it today, I would bring up secure amigas, and when for erotic pleasure, a High End Girl.
I prefer Energy and New Life, mostly New Life; it's a place which worn down, but clean and you don't get robbed. Energy, are they still lacking hot water?
Find a favorite and then bring her home. She has / hopefully / learned that you are a normal person and not a maniac.
Mongering will still be a Catch 22 about sex / security.
I've been here two days, staying near Parque LLeras ("Jheer-ahs") cause I have a pal who gives me a good deal.
First night: met with a new independent girl from one of the two big websites, who I confirmed uses whatsapp and the advertised photos are of her.
Considering I was new to her we had a great time. No problems. Furthering my experience that most independent prepagos will give a good service if all is agreed to in advance.
Second time: I met with an established University girl who I met last trip. 100% perfect. She is a 20 year old angel from a poor family who really wants to educate herself.
We have the best time. Perfect situation. A dream encounter. By the way, she could be a supermodel and she is a definite 10.150 mil for 90 minutes.
Third time: I can't be with my dream college girl 24/7 so I picked a girl from mileroticos. Stunning photo and she used whatsapp. I asked if she was the girl in the photo, she said yes. She asked me to visit her.
In her apartment and I agreed because it sometimes beats waiting for the girl to come to your place. I arrived in a beautiful new complex in La Mota barrio. When I arrived at her apartment I found it was a mini brothel with three bedrooms and she was not the girl in the photo. Bottom line. A horrible experience, she tried to change up everything we agreed upon prior with whatsapp. I told her I'm leaving, then she agreed to honor our prior agreement of 90 minutes with oral natural for 160. Her body was a perfect 10 with a cute face, so I stayed but. She was estrato 1 and acted like she was a zombie and things couldn't have been worse. In my opinion these very poor girls are taken advantage of in these mini or large brothels and the client is the worse off for it. (IMHO Cartagena mongering has been destroyed by these slave brothels, I lived there for two years.) During our time she acted like she feared for her life and our session was interrupted two times by other girls asking to borrow towelettes. I had the worst experience ever with this girl.
My experience to share here is: Patronize only girls that use whatsapp and you can verify they are truly independent. If their ad has too beautiful a model in the photo, its probably a brothel with girls who don't give a fuck and are taught to cheat and steal instead of providing service. Totally ignore girls that still use only a cellphone phone number. All the girls use whatsapp here, so if one is using a phone number only, she is 99% hiding something.
Oh, as has been written here, the service in Carulla Supermarket is pathetic and Crepes and Waffles is just as bad. I've been to Crepes & Waffles perhaps 25 times and the senoras who work there simply don't give a shit. They completely ignore you when you tell them what you want, like bread and butter and you have to ask twice or thrice and they never acknowledge their complete no give a shit attitude and pathetic service. And yes, my Spanish is more than fine. My theory is that the are paid pennies and work 6 days a week and simply don't give a phuck. Whatever.
In general I've had perfect relations with the locals in the drug stores & restaurants. As I've learned, if you try to speak their language they are very kind and helpful. The only problem is that every city in Colombia uses a different set of verbs. I learned my Spanish in Cartagena and the locals in Medellin use a whole different set of verbs. For a non native Spanish speaker, learning Spanish is a lifetime commitment. .
SavePros321
04-09-17, 14:52
My experience to share here is: Patronize only girls that use whatsapp and you can verify they are truly independent. If their ad has too beautiful a model in the photo, its probably a brothel with girls who don't give a fuck and are taught to cheat and steal instead of providing service. Totally ignore girls that still use only a cellphone phone number. All the girls use whatsapp here, so if one is using a phone number only, she is 99% hiding something.Good reporting bro. I agree about Whatsapp. Sometime they will have these stupid quotes or flowery crap as their main profile pic though, so you may have to ask them to send you a pic to verify she is who she says she is.
YippieKayay
04-09-17, 15:52
My experience to share here is: Patronize only girls that use whatsapp and you can verify they are truly independent. If their ad has too beautiful a model in the photo, its probably a brothel with girls who don't give a fuck and are taught to cheat and steal instead of providing service. Totally ignore girls that still use only a cellphone phone number. All the girls use whatsapp here, so if one is using a phone number only, she is 99% hiding something.
Last year I was in Medellin and I used the back pages and I had a similar experience. However, these girls were on whatsapp. I'm not sure it makes a difference.
So my latest US sugar baby off SA has stood me up the last few times, pissed me off, so I booked a flight back to Medellin in June, $227 RT out of Miami on VivaColombia Airlines.
I paid $471 on American Airlines out of Tampa via Miami last time, I'll just drive down to Miami to save that much.
5 nights booked at Botero Medellin again at $26 a night. WOOHOOOO!
(Here's pic's of the SB so you can see why I am putting up with that at all. LOL).
So my latest US sugar baby off SA has stood me up the last few times, pissed me off, so I booked a flight back to Medellin in June, $227 RT out of Miami on VivaColombia Airlines.
I paid $471 on American Airlines out of Tampa via Miami last time, I'll just drive down to Miami to save that much.
5 nights booked at Botero Medellin again at $26 a night. WOOHOOOO!
(Here's pic's of the SB so you can see why I am putting up with that at all. LOL).I've seen one way Viva Colombia to Medellin for I think it was $74, last minute fare. If you're able to go on short notice, you can get some real deals.
I've seen one way Viva Colombia to Medellin for I think it was $74, last minute fare. If you're able to go on short notice, you can get some real deals.The fares actually start at $56 one way, but you have to add $35 ea way if you want to check a bag. And can only bring a small carry on.
https://www.vivacolombia.co/en-co
Here's the billing detail for my flight down:
Fares.
Adult (s) 1 x USD $ 16.00.
Admin Fee USD $ 7.50.
Total fare: USD $ 23.50.
Additional services.
Checked luggage USD $ 35.00.
Total additional services USD $ 35.00.
Taxes.
11th of September security tax. Adult 1 x USD $ 5. 60.
Tourism tax CO. Adult 1 x USD $ 15.00.
Airport tax. Adult 1 x USD $ 18.00.
Passenger Facility Charge (PFC) - Adult 1 x USD $ 4. 50.
Total airport taxes USD $ 43.10.
Total departing flight USD $ 101.60.
Mr Enternational
04-11-17, 03:29
(Here's pic's of the SB so you can see why I am putting up with that at all. LOL).Tell that [Deleted by Admin] she needs to clean her damn room and get those dogs off the bed. I guess for some guys all it takes is how a woman looks.
Tell that.Hell, she comes to me! LOL.
Plus, looking like that she can eat crackers in bed.
InigoMontoya
04-11-17, 05:29
So my latest US sugar baby off SA has stood me up the last few times, pissed me off, so I booked a flight back to Medellin in June, $227 RT out of Miami on VivaColombia Airlines.
I paid $471 on American Airlines out of Tampa via Miami last time, I'll just drive down to Miami to save that much.
5 nights booked at Botero Medellin again at $26 a night. WOOHOOOO!
(Here's pic's of the SB so you can see why I am putting up with that at all. LOL).Mr Wolf,
All due respect, after she flaked the first time. Maaaaybe the second adequate believable excuse, you should've, at the least gently, cut off her SB status to potential SB funding until she made good. At this point, I'd figure this situation is spoiled, would just cost more sugar-daddying to get back to zero, & move on. Don't treat them like [Deleted by Admin] but definitely don't let them treat you like one either, or neither of you can ever respect the other. Time to move on. Never know, she may accept you truly have all the leverage and make things right.
So my latest US sugar baby off SA has stood me up the last few times, pissed me off, so I booked a flight back to Medellin in June, $227 RT out of Miami on VivaColombia Airlines.
I paid $471 on American Airlines out of Tampa via Miami last time, I'll just drive down to Miami to save that much.
5 nights booked at Botero Medellin again at $26 a night. WOOHOOOO!
(Here's pic's of the SB so you can see why I am putting up with that at all. LOL).
No such thing as so fine that you have to put up with their shit when you're paying.
Hope you're not having sex with her in that bed.
Mr Enternational
04-11-17, 13:08
No such thing as so fine that you have to put up with their shit when you're paying.
Hope you're not having sex with her in that bed.Also Wolf, be careful. That woman has implants, a big head (possibly 2 big heads), some square ass shoulders, and no hips. And 9.9 times out of 10 you don't see a real woman standing with her body positioned like that (arched back). That could be the reason that you are being stood up.
YippieKayay
04-11-17, 15:14
I'm spending a week in Medellin followed by Cartagena. I like Cartagena more for the tourist aspect but the girls are too expensive. A girl I met there who I kept in touch with wanted 600 k minimum to wife up. Insane pricing.
I'm curious, would it be a bad idea to find a beauty in Centro and take her with me to Cartagena? I'm going to hit up the locations by the church + that raudal corner. If they're just charging 30 k I bet I could para llevar for a few hundred k to Cartagena. I'd have to find that diamond in the rough though. I don't want a glue sniffer.
Doesn't the cost of gas and parking make the drive from Tampa to Miami airport a close call? If I understood right it's a $244 difference. The parking and gas is I assume at least $100. I'm curious because I'm always looking for a bargain! VivaColombia has a cooler name than American. I can't believe VivaColombia can be as bad as Spirit.
So my latest US sugar baby off SA has stood me up the last few times, pissed me off, so I booked a flight back to Medellin in June, $227 RT out of Miami on VivaColombia Airlines.
I paid $471 on American Airlines out of Tampa via Miami last time, I'll just drive down to Miami to save that much.
5 nights booked at Botero Medellin again at $26 a night. WOOHOOOO!
(Here's pic's of the SB so you can see why I am putting up with that at all. LOL).
Viajando Musico
04-11-17, 17:30
I'm spending a week in Medellin followed by Cartagena. I like Cartagena more for the tourist aspect but the girls are too expensive. A girl I met there who I kept in touch with wanted 600 k minimum to wife up. Insane pricing.
I'm curious, would it be a bad idea to find a beauty in Centro and take her with me to Cartagena? I'm going to hit up the locations by the church + that raudal corner. If they're just charging 30 k I bet I could para llevar for a few hundred k to Cartagena. I'd have to find that diamond in the rough though. I don't want a glue sniffer.From my interaction with the Colombian girls, Cartagena is not only a tourist destination for foreign tourists, but popular for Colombians as well. They either have been there, or want to go there for vacation. I am sure you can find some willing souls who will jump on a free trip offer without compensation for their time or maybe some small gifts at the most. In January, 2 separate amigas invited me to party with them at a big annual music festival in Cartagena, and both are college educated. Another one also just got back from a few days vacation there as well.
YippieKayay
04-11-17, 17:35
From my interaction with the Colombian girls, Cartagena is not only a tourist destination for foreign tourists, but popular for Colombians as well. They either have been there, or want to go there for vacation. I am sure you can find some willing souls who will jump on a free trip offer without compensation for their time or maybe some small gifts at the most. In January, 2 separate amigas invited me to party with them at a big annual music festival in Cartagena, and both are college educated. Another one also just got back from a few days vacation there as well.Yes, I've also had "normal" chicas want to go visit me there. Of course they were expecting a free trip out of it, and everything to come out of my pocket. I was interested in hearing opinions on whether it's something I should try with the SWs if I find a decent one. I can't think of a reason why not if she's not crazy.
The expression "bringing sand to the beach" comes to mind.
Yes, I've also had "normal" chicas want to go visit me there. Of course they were expecting a free trip out of it, and everything to come out of my pocket. I was interested in hearing opinions on whether it's something I should try with the SWs if I find a decent one. I can't think of a reason why not if she's not crazy.
Doesn't the cost of gas and parking make the drive from Tampa to Miami airport a close call? If I understood right it's a $244 difference. The parking and gas is I assume at least $100. I'm curious because I'm always looking for a bargain! VivaColombia has a cooler name than American. I can't believe VivaColombia can be as bad as Spirit.Well my house in St Pete to MIA is 269 miles ea way, so 538 miles total, my car gets 32 mpg highway, so 16.8 gal x $2. 399 a gal = $40 in gas, $8 a day in long term parking =$48.
So about $90, so I still come out $154 ahead.
MIA also has a free motorcycle parking area in the parking garages right at the airport, covered, may do that, my bike gets 50-60 mpg. Just throw a backpack on the back. Lock the bike and helmet and throw on a bike cover, set the alarm.
I'm spending a week in Medellin followed by Cartagena. I like Cartagena more for the tourist aspect but the girls are too expensive. A girl I met there who I kept in touch with wanted 600 k minimum to wife up. Insane pricing.
I'm curious, would it be a bad idea to find a beauty in Centro and take her with me to Cartagena? I'm going to hit up the locations by the church + that raudal corner. If they're just charging 30 k I bet I could para llevar for a few hundred k to Cartagena. I'd have to find that diamond in the rough though. I don't want a glue sniffer.Hmmm. Might work. Might not, I didn't even take those girls to my hotel and that was 2 blocks away.
These are very low end barriogirls, one step above street urchins, you may get a good one or you may get one with a switchblade and scopolamine in her purse and wake up with everything gone.
Well my house in St Pete to MIA is 269 miles ea way, so 538 miles total, my car gets 32 mpg highway, so 16.8 gal x $2. 399 a gal = $40 in gas, $8 a day in long term parking =$48.
So about $90, so I still come out $154 ahead.
MIA also has a free motorcycle parking area in the parking garages right at the airport, covered, may do that, my bike gets 50-60 mpg. Just throw a backpack on the back. Lock the bike and helmet and throw on a bike cover, set the alarm.Kinda naïve to think that gas is the only marginal cost of driving. You have tire wear, periodic maintenance, greater exposure to accidents and tickets, the loss in value of the vehicle, and yada yada yada.
YippieKayay
04-11-17, 22:49
The expression "bringing sand to the beach" comes to mind.It would cheaper sand though.
Hmmm. Might work. Might not, I didn't even take those girls to my hotel and that was 2 blocks away.
These are very low end barriogirls, one step above street urchins, you may get a good one or you may get one with a switchblade and scopolamine in her purse and wake up with everything gone.Do you or anyone else here know if the Mayorista girls are any better? A 30-50 k a pop I could probably rent one long term for real cheap for Cartagena. Cartagena's pricing is insane despite the peso's rise. And I have a feeling the ladies there enforce a minimum price.
C Jack Sparrow
04-11-17, 23:36
Medellin 26,446.
Cartagena 8,541.
Bogota 5,450.
Cali 4,083.
General 4,614.
MDE 26,446 vs. General + City Cartel 22,688.
A one time Colombian Playboy model from Romance Latina told me. " I live in Bogota since there I'm a 10, here in Medellin I'm only a 6". Alex, my paisa friend confirmed directly.
Paisas have by an evolutionary pattern, got the perfect mix for beauty and enhancing it in every way possible. Paisas work out like maniacs + spend all they can on plastic surgery + fashion.
Bogota have girls like Madrid. Few guapas. To white population, while Medellin combine black / indian / european in a luckily way.
I must say that this have a equally reverse effect on IQ, due to malnutrition, toxic air,and cultural behavior, especially when Medellin are the new Rio. Education is more about betting the title, while Bogota sooner or later will be an industrial metropol on the global scale. All indicators point in that direction. Rolos are smarter! It is not about race. It is about nutrition. In Arequipa Peru I worked with this; children does not get milk and loses brain development that is hard to repair. Rolos are also, while being ugly / read fat / girls, like US girls; it's all about the career, while paisas focus on getting financial support from Swiss traditional assistance, local and federal programs, extranjeros and "amigos", and still the biggest influx of "net net" narco dollars.
Cartagena is a traditional place for all types of groups and individuals, Colombias Nassau (Black Sails). There will always be a mix of everything. And the heat kills you. The clubs have a concentration of the All 10's in Boca Grande and Laquito, but you only stay for a few days, while a month in Medellin compensate by far for that; you find the same girls for half the price at last and stay with them. Cartagena are for shorttimers, like going to Las Vegas.
Cali. It surprises me. They are more horny and liberal than paisas, but it's to hot. Medellins average 25 see degree year -round, makes it so much more comfortable. Still; Cali and calenas are The capital of salsa and it's much easier to get a calena into a date or payed sex than a paisa. Maybe just a trend that guys in Cali have lost the publishing fight against the Medellin guys.
Medellin are surpassing Rio de Janiero fast. Which was the party / sex capital for half a century! And there are superhot girls, but the 14% Central bank interest rate makes the overvalued Real Rio a no-go place. Even if the garotas truly are even much better lovers and much more relaxed than paisas who demand luxury for free! With a 30-40% natural fall of the Real, Rio will be back. And Help also!
Medellin 26,446.
Cartagena 8,541.
Bogota 5,450.
Cali 4,083.
General 4,614.
MDE 26,446 vs. General + City Cartel 22,688...What do these numbers refer to?
Kinda nave to think that gas is the only marginal cost of driving. You have tire wear, periodic maintenance, greater exposure to accidents and tickets, the loss in value of the vehicle, and yada yada yada.None of that really adds up to much in my case.
30,000 mile tires, $360, so about $6.50 of tire wear.
I use Mobil-1 15,000 mile oil, $40 inc oil change, so about $1.40 there.
I haven't got a ticket in about 10 years. Last accident was 1993 ish.
Car's a 2002 with 145,000 m, another 500 m won't make much of a diff there.
The problem for me would be the 3 to 4 hour drive at the beginning and end of my trip. I'd rather pay a couple of hundred dollars more to avoid that.
Kinda nave to think that gas is the only marginal cost of driving. You have tire wear, periodic maintenance, greater exposure to accidents and tickets, the loss in value of the vehicle, and yada yada yada.
So my latest US sugar baby off SA has stood me up the last few times, pissed me off, so I booked a flight back to Medellin in June, $227 RT out of Miami on VivaColombia Airlines.
I paid $471 on American Airlines out of Tampa via Miami last time, I'll just drive down to Miami to save that much.Copa Air has round trip flights out of Orlando for $265, with no extra charges. Also, free meals on the flights. Their prices change often, but that is the price right now for flights most of next month.
HumanBeing1
04-12-17, 04:06
Just returned from Medellin. Beautiful city and beautiful women.
I used the PDF with the casas. The map didn't work on my phone. It was very helpful and with uber being so cheap we could go wherever with no problem. Of the cheap casas my favorite was new life. Both times I went there was a large selection of girls that were very attractive with solid rooms. The location is very seedy but the cafe next door has good WiFi so it was easy to uber out afterwards.
Botero is definitely a shady area. I was solicited aggressively by 3 girls who couldn't have been more than 14 years old in broad daylight there. Pretty sad. Worth going to that Plaza once but I'd never go back. Seeing my uber pull up was quite the relief.
Energy is closed by 6 on Sunday. There is a_? Down for the Sunday time in the pdf. We stopped by around 545 on Sunday afternoon and they were definitely closed.
Fase 2 was a rip off imo. Drinks were ridiculously priced. It was essentially the same experience you get in a Florida strip club.
Also, there are tons of hookers walking around Lleras. In many cases they aren't flaunting it but me and my friend also enjoy hitting on women and in most cases the women we were attempting to pick up ended up asking for money after a while. We had a nice airbnb around Calle 10 a that I'd highly recommend (you can pm me for info on that) and both brought girls back for a decent price (their 200 k asking price dropped quickly with negotiation).
Overall a good trip.
Do you or anyone else here know if the Mayorista girls are any better? A 30-50 k a pop I could probably rent one long term for real cheap for Cartagena. Cartagena's pricing is insane despite the peso's rise. And I have a feeling the ladies there enforce a minimum price.I would not advise taking a street hooker on an overnight trip.
First ask, if they have a passport, 95% don't.
Mr Enternational
04-12-17, 06:01
I would not advise taking a street hooker on an overnight trip.
First ask, if they have a passport, 95% don't.Why would they need a passport for a 1 hour flight to Cartagena?
SpiderRider
04-12-17, 07:15
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Fase 2 was a rip off imo. Drinks were ridiculously priced. It was essentially the same experience you get in a Florida strip club.
Also, there are tons of hookers walking around Lleras. In many cases they aren't flaunting it but me and my friend also enjoy hitting on women and in most cases the women we were attempting to pick up ended up asking for money after a while. We had a nice airbnb around Calle 10 a that I'd highly recommend (you can pm me for info on that) and both brought girls back for a decent price (their 200 k asking price dropped quickly with negotiation).
I've been in Colombia since early November, mostly in Medellin. I've had a great time. I was in Fase II tonight and this was my first experience with any "attitude" on the part of women, no matter their place in the society. They were distant, sullen, minimally approachable, and either conceited or intensely insecure. Little or no interest in navigating interaction with a foreigner, even though my Spanish is not that horrible. Very unusual behavior it seemed. Maybe they don't want to be working Semana Santa. If so they should stay home. I don't know what it costs to take a girl up at Fase II, but there was no way I was paying it without a little effort on their part. Its too bad because I had a pocket full of money. There were only a few girls attractive enough to be asking for more than 40 or 50 mil anyway.
Luna Lunera was so dark, you wouldn't know if you were talking to a man, a woman, or an ape.
Black Page
04-12-17, 11:55
The expression "bringing sand to the beach" comes to mind.LLevar lenha al monte, they say in Colombia.
Like some guy living in New York wants to have holidays in Honolulu, so he stops over in Tulsa to buy food to bring there, because it's cheaper. Savvy way to limit expenses.
However, if one wants a cheaper girl in CTG, there are millions of people living in 50 km radius from Cartagena, Reloy. Plenty of opportunities without flying someone there from Medellin (I assume he does not really love that girl met in Veracruz).
I am thinking now that years ago I did exactly the opposite, and for 3 years in a row. In MDE for work a couple of weeks, I invited there a girl from her hometown few hours from Cartagena, to spend with me at Sheraton 3 days of holidays in Medellin (agreement: "I pay you the flight, you are my guest, we also go buy some better clothes, I treat you as my novia, and thus I don't pay you. OK???" OK.). I met her at Reloy originally, and she caught my heart.
YippieKayay
04-12-17, 12:01
Also, there are tons of hookers walking around Lleras.
No there aren't. There are a FEW hookers. Sure. Not a TON. A TON is what you saw around Botero plaza.
Black Page
04-12-17, 12:16
Time ago, here there was a long discussion about hiring a girl met virtually on a webcam site, covering all various topics like how much would she want, how much does she earns from her webcam job, etc. Etc.
Needless to say, I think it would be a very bad idea. With all the stunners that one can meet for real in the real world in Colombia, I don't see why one should pay an exorbitant money to touch physically someone who looks sexy on cam, but he does not know how she looks for real, what is her attitude, conversation, or just tit squeezing feeling if one is not interested to conversation.
However, I have a story to tell.
Few months ago, I met a nice girl in CTG, Reloy. Read the report here (Girl No. 2):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=1979408#post1979408
Look at her tits (photo at right)!!
In short: she was a barrio teen, very pretty and sexy, 21 yo, asking only 80k for her job (most girls at Reloy are adamant in sticking to 200k for 1 hour, only some go down to 150k, several even ask 300k). I did not miss the opportunity!
She has a kid, and her hubby in jail.
She was so nice with me, that I kept in touch on Facebook Messenger. It's somehow a strong feeling for me having the opportunity to peek into the private real life of a girl, who I met just for a good fuck in a short time hotel but then I befriended. I could see her having a barbecue with relatives (also some big boys with tattooed arms like in worst reggaetton videos), hugging the baby, etc.
She's not in CTG anymore. She went back to her small hometown near Pereira. She told me she found some jobs, including even at a gas station. Imagine having a girl with that body serving you gasoline in your car.
Two weeks ago, she tells me she started to work as webcam girl at Bongacams. Unbelievable for me! She tells me she's happy because the job is easy (yes) and she earns something. How much? She works at regular work shift as in a office: 7am-2pm daily. She goes to the work place every morning as any office employee, she has her room, she connects and waits people to watch her and pay private shows. She gets the minimum basic legal salary (940 kCOP/month) like in a supermarket, fixed salary, plus some incentive if she get more than and points from customers. No, webcam girls are not rich.
She told me her nick on the webcam site, so that I could peek at her. Usually, we believe that girls on webcam sites look sexy on cam, but probably would be disappointing if met for real. Well, this case is exactly the opposite. In real life, she is a dream lol-ita, with perfect body and delicate face and smile like a princess. On webcam, she's just one as many others, even sleazy. Nothing to be impressed.
C Jack Sparrow
04-12-17, 14:45
What do these numbers refer to?It was no tourist in medellin in the 1980/90's. Palm Tree Hostel opened around 2000 as the first hostel aiming at extranjeros.
The change has been enourmous.
50% of Colombian export is oil, down from over 150 to under 50 at worst (yet), and Medellin textile industry fight head on with asian manufacturers.
That's why, after 2002-2014, Medellin has been falling back into it's usual habits.
All that construction that has going on the last decade are solid, until 2013/14, that is buit on speculation.
I never seen prepagos in masses around Parque Lleras as described, since that kind of activity was only accepted in La Mayorista under police survaillance.
Now, with the economy falling apart, police, social authorities, loans, projects can't stop the bubble to bursting.
That can, would mean an fantastic place for a monger; asking price for a hot babe 200, real price 100 (US $35). Negative and dangerous is the under 18 girls. Check her ID before sex.
At Luna Lunera you are not obligated to sit in the dark area. You should have used your not so bad Spanish to ask for the girls to present themselves in a lighted area, like the rooms. I've had no problems seeing the girls but I always sit near the cashier. The dark part of the bar with the lights and stripper pole is all designed to get you to pay for nothing of value (lady drinks, lap dances, etc.).
I've been in Colombia since early November, mostly in Medellin. I've had a great time. I was in Fase II tonight and this was my first experience with any "attitude" on the part of women, no matter their place in the society. They were distant, sullen, minimally approachable, and either conceited or intensely insecure. Little or no interest in navigating interaction with a foreigner, even though my Spanish is not that horrible. Very unusual behavior it seemed. Maybe they don't want to be working Semana Santa. If so they should stay home. I don't know what it costs to take a girl up at Fase II, but there was no way I was paying it without a little effort on their part. Its too bad because I had a pocket full of money. There were only a few girls attractive enough to be asking for more than 40 or 50 mil anyway.
Luna Lunera was so dark, you wouldn't know if you were talking to a man, a woman, or an ape.
El Mechanico
04-12-17, 15:17
Well my house in St Pete to MIA is 269 miles ea way, so 538 miles total, my car gets 32 mpg highway, so 16.8 gal x $2. 399 a gal = $40 in gas, $8 a day in long term parking =$48.
So about $90, so I still come out $154 ahead.
A minimum of 6 to 8 hours driving and 1/2 of that after hitting it hard in Colombia. All to save $154. That's $20-25/ hour at best. Throw in the fatigue factor on the return trip & it's not worth it.
The reason I responded is I struggle with the same issue every trip. 2 hours to New Orleans Or 4 hours to Houston. The minimal savings is not woth being on the road for that long, especially on the return trip. JMHO.
Good luck & be safe!!
El Mechanico.
El Mechanico
04-12-17, 15:28
What do these numbers refer to?
Medellin 26,446.
Cartagena 8,541.
Bogota 5,450.
Cali 4,083.
General 4,614.
MDE 26,446 vs. General + City Cartel 22,688.
CJS, again, what do these Numbers refer to? Number of tourists per year??
Thanks,
El Mechanico.
SpiderRider
04-12-17, 17:36
At Luna Lunera you are not obligated to sit in the dark area. You should have used your not so bad Spanish to ask for the girls to present themselves in a lighted area, like the rooms. I've had no problems seeing the girls but I always sit near the cashier. The dark part of the bar with the lights and stripper pole is all designed to get you to pay for nothing of value (lady drinks, lap dances, etc.).Thanks,! I'll try it if I go back. After more than 5 months here, I have a lot of friends, and friends of friends.
A minimum of 6 to 8 hours driving and 1/2 of that after hitting it hard in Colombia. All to save $154. That's $20-25/ hour at best. Throw in the fatigue factor on the return trip & it's not worth it...Oh I agree it is suboptimal. But last time I went down with my tax refund, this time every extra dollar is going to help. And as a professional driver (fuel trucks / party buses) $20+ a HR for driving is pretty good. Just can't decide if I want to save even more and take the bike to MIA. That'll save me the parking $ and use less gas.
Time ago, here there was a long discussion about hiring a girl met virtually on a webcam site, covering all various topics like how much would she want, how much does she earns from her webcam job, etc. Etc.
Needless to say, I think it would be a very bad idea. With all the stunners that one can meet for real in the real world in Colombia, I don't see why one should pay an exorbitant money to touch physically someone who looks sexy on cam, but he does not know how she looks for real, what is her attitude, conversation, or just tit squeezing feeling if one is not interested to conversation.
However, I have a story to tell.
Few months ago, I met a nice girl in CTG, Reloy. Read the report here (Girl No. 2):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=1979408#post1979408
Look at her tits (photo at right)!!
In short: she was a barrio teen, very pretty and sexy, 21 yo, asking only 80k for her job (most girls at Reloy are adamant in sticking to 200k for 1 hour, only some go down to 150k, several even ask 300k). I did not miss the opportunity!
She has a kid, and her hubby in jail.
She was so nice with me, that I kept in touch on Facebook Messenger. It's somehow a strong feeling for me having the opportunity to peek into the private real life of a girl, who I met just for a good fuck in a short time hotel but then I befriended. I could see her having a barbecue with relatives (also some big boys with tattooed arms like in worst reggaetton videos), hugging the baby, etc.
She's not in CTG anymore. She went back to her small hometown near Pereira. She told me she found some jobs, including even at a gas station. Imagine having a girl with that body serving you gasoline in your car.
Two weeks ago, she tells me she started to work as webcam girl at Bongacams. Unbelievable for me! She tells me she's happy because the job is easy (yes) and she earns something. How much? She works at regular work shift as in a office: 7am-2pm daily. She goes to the work place every morning as any office employee, she has her room, she connects and waits people to watch her and pay private shows. She gets the minimum basic legal salary (940 kCOP/month) like in a supermarket, fixed salary, plus some incentive if she get more than and points from customers. No, webcam girls are not rich.
She told me her nick on the webcam site, so that I could peek at her. Usually, we believe that girls on webcam sites look sexy on cam, but probably would be disappointing if met for real. Well, this case is exactly the opposite. In real life, she is a dream lol-ita, with perfect body and delicate face and smile like a princess. On webcam, she's just one as many others, even sleazy. Nothing to be impressed.As with all things YMMV. You are talking about a girl from a poor family, who has never had much. She is excited to earn about $300 US per month with possible bonuses. She is probably working from a shabby little room, with a cheap laptop and cheap cam.
As I write this I'm sitting next to a webcam girl in a Poblado high-rise. She looks just as good in person as on cam. The apartment is a spacious 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom in a nice estrato 6 area. In just a few minutes I'll be having lunch with another webcam girl, same situation. Both grew up in middle to upper middle class families, both are well educated and both realize this is their highest earning potential at this time.
However, neither would go to a room with you or me, for any price. Why risk it when they make more in 4 hours than your example makes in 2 weeks?
In all things, there are different classes. While her body might make her look great, in Colombia her social class is what she will always be judged on. The people she works for exploit that. They pay her estrato 2 wages because they know she will accept it.
With training, a good workspace and the right equipment, she could work 10 hours per week and make at least double what she makes now.
It would cheaper sand though.
Do you or anyone else here know if the Mayorista girls are any better? A 30-50 k a pop I could probably rent one long term for real cheap for Cartagena. Cartagena's pricing is insane despite the peso's rise. And I have a feeling the ladies there enforce a minimum price.Best bet:
Hit the casas.
Find one you bond with.
See her outside the casa.
Invite her on a trip if you like.
Though I've found a couple keepers from Centro, the vast majority are not.
As far as the Mayo goes.
Quality has been way down. Sad really.
Unless you wanna invite Aunt Bea to Cartagena, Lol
As I write this I'm sitting next to a webcam girl in a Poblado high-rise. She looks just as good in person as on cam. The apartment is a spacious 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom in a nice estrato 6 area. In just a few minutes I'll be having lunch with another webcam girl, same situation. Both grew up in middle to upper middle class families, both are well educated and both realize this is their highest earning potential at this time.
However, neither would go to a room with you or me, for any price. Why risk it when they make more in 4 hours than your example makes in 2 weeks?I am confused. The girls won't go to your apartment (because of risk), but they will invite you to their apartment. Seems about the same risk. I suppose the risk you are referring to is of them being exposed. Also, what is the lunch situation, did she prepare lunch?
Maybe the barrio girl has the better life. She can go out and be with people; whereas, your girls have to be confined to their apartment.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just want to understand the situation.
YippieKayay
04-12-17, 21:40
As far as the Mayo goes.
Quality has been way down. Sad really.
Unless you wanna invite Aunt Bea to Cartagena, LolI'm fine going MILF. When was the last time you were there? So much talk about webcams and "tons of hookers in parque lleras" and yet Mayorista looks like the only tolerance zone outside of Centro. I'd love to hear more about it.
I'm going to be there week of the 24th and Centro + Mayorista are the main reasons I'm going.
I don't ride motorcycles but I suspect you might regret taking the bike if you were to encounter one of those unexpected Florida rainstorms.
Oh I agree it is suboptimal. But last time I went down with my tax refund, this time every extra dollar is going to help. And as a professional driver (fuel trucks / party buses) $20+ a HR for driving is pretty good. Just can't decide if I want to save even more and take the bike to MIA. That'll save me the parking $ and use less gas.
A minimum of 6 to 8 hours driving and 1/2 of that after hitting it hard in Colombia. All to save $154.And a extra $150 will get me 15 Centro girls. LOL.
PepolesBuddy
04-12-17, 23:40
Sup Playas,
Just thought I'd be a team player and post this interesting read about estratos. It's sad that people in Latin america are judged harshly based on where they live. Anyway, my question to you gents is does anyone have Estrato rating information on Itagui, Salvanetta, and Envigado? Thanks.
http://medellinliving.com/best-medellin-neighborhoods/
https://www.medellin.gov.co/irj/go/km/docs/wpccontent/Sites/Subportal%20del%20Ciudadano/Planeaci%C3%B3n%20Municipal/Secciones/Indicadores%20y%20Estad%C3%ADsticas/Documentos/Estratificaci%C3%B3n/ESTRATO_PREDOMINANTE%20POR%20BARRIO_2010.pdf
I am confused. The girls won't go to your apartment (because of risk), but they will invite you to their apartment. Seems about the same risk. I suppose the risk you are referring to is of them being exposed. Also, what is the lunch situation, did she prepare lunch?
Maybe the barrio girl has the better life. She can go out and be with people; whereas, your girls have to be confined to their apartment.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just want to understand the situation.I'll try my best to explain.
Some of my friends here are webcam models. One of them happens to be my roommate. We were sitting and waiting for some other friends, one of which is also a webcam model. They arrived and we all hopped in a Uber for a short trip to a nearby restaurant for comida tipica. After a good lunch we took a short walk.
One friend had something to do, where I will be working, so him and I went to the office while the girls took off to do their own thing. What he was involved in took 3 hours. Even though I could understand only a little of what was being said, I enjoyed hanging out with a bunch of hot webcam girls.
They were all nice, normal women, who had come from their various homes to participate in the same thing I was hanging out and watching. One theme that kept being repeated was that they were not prostitutes.
This is nothing against prostitution. The webcam discussion started because of the assumption that all the webcam models, and there are several thousand in Medellin, are available for a price. Certainly there are some who use the webcam to advertise the other services, but there are many who would never consider prostitution. We could go over the old argument that it's all the same, but it isn't to them.
As for being confined, none of them are confined. They go where they want, when they want and do what they want, with whoever they want. One that I met today just returned from Italy, another just got back from a trip to the US. Two others are getting ready to travel.
The risks I'm talking about are the various risks associated with prostitution. There's disease, pregnancy, the risk of violence, even the risk of death. Inviting a stranger into your home can be dangerous. Going to a stranger's home can be dangerous.
Does that explain it?
I'm fine going MILF. When was the last time you were there? So much talk about webcams and "tons of hookers in parque lleras" and yet Mayorista looks like the only tolerance zone outside of Centro. I'd love to hear more about it.
I'm going to be there week of the 24th and Centro + Mayorista are the main reasons I'm going.I'll probably take a daytime stroll through Mayorista next week. I will be doing some exploring and will try to give you a report on what I see.
I'm fine going MILF. When was the last time you were there? So much talk about webcams and "tons of hookers in parque lleras" and yet Mayorista looks like the only tolerance zone outside of Centro. I'd love to hear more about it.
I'm going to be there week of the 24th and Centro + Mayorista are the main reasons I'm going.Sounds good, just don't get your hopes too high in those 2 areas.
An occasional gem in Centro, Mayorista even more rare these days.
I was there last week.
I'll probably take a daytime stroll through Mayorista next week. I will be doing some exploring and will try to give you a report on what I see.Daytime is pretty slim pickins at the Mayo.
There is one nice girl there daytime who I've befriended.
Not a raving beauty, but a nice person at a 7.
You'll see.
Mr Enternational
04-13-17, 03:07
The webcam discussion started because of the assumption that all the webcam models, and there are several thousand in Medellin, are available for a price. Certainly there are some who use the webcam to advertise the other services, but there are many who would never consider prostitution. I used to talk to a chick in Bogota that had to get it off her chest, but was ashamed to admit to me that she is (back then) a cam girl. She was doing it to put herself through school. We would be talking to each other on cam while she was in her sexy clothes and with her toys to her side. When whatever happens when a guy chooses her happens she would click me off and go to doing whatever cam girls do. I did everything in my power to fuck this woman but she would never go for it. She would always say I am too hungry like I am not supposed to want to fuck (or like she is not supposed to want to either). Sometimes I took her out and sometimes she took me out but we never got anywhere near fucking.
She finally hooked me up with one of her friends. When her friend met me at the airport my tongue fell to the floor. This was 7 or 8 years ago and I still have not fucked her either. I have sucked on her tits, got her to play with my dick, and jacked off on her stomach, but that is as far as it has gone in all these years. I was even with her last week when I was in Colombia and she still hollers about how she is not ready. WTF.
I can't figure out for the life of me how either of them managed to have a kid. This is the chick that the first chick hooked me up with. To me she is drop dead gorgeous and maybe (but probably not) I would be a different man if she would get her act together and get her legs the opposite of together. For some reason the picture won't upload.
Running low on Aguardiente! LOL.
YippieKayay
04-13-17, 05:01
Sounds good, just don't get your hopes too high in those 2 areas.
An occasional gem in Centro, Mayorista even more rare these days.
I was there last week.What time does it get hopping at night and average pricing? Hey man feel free to PM me if you know more about the area but don't want to post here. It just seems like it's a good night hang out, instead of centro or the garbage that's in El Gringado. Haha.
Black Page
04-13-17, 12:02
I'm going to be there week of the 24th and Centro + Mayorista are the main reasons I'm going.Disappointment on the way.
BlueChange
04-13-17, 14:11
I used to talk to a chick in Bogota that had to get it off her chest, but was ashamed to admit to me that she is (back then) a cam girl. She was doing it to put herself through school. We would be talking to each other on cam while she was in her sexy clothes and with her toys to her side. When whatever happens when a guy chooses her happens she would click me off and go to doing whatever cam girls do. I did everything in my power to fuck this woman but she would never go for it. She would always say I am too hungry like I am not supposed to want to fuck (or like she is not supposed to want to either). Sometimes I took her out and sometimes she took me out but we never got anywhere near fucking.
She finally hooked me up with one of her friends. When her friend met me at the airport my tongue fell to the floor. This was 7 or 8 years ago and I still have not fucked her either. I have sucked on her tits, got her to play with my dick, and jacked off on her stomach, but that is as far as it has gone in all these years. I was even with her last week when I was in Colombia and she still hollers about how she is not ready. WTF.
I can't figure out for the life of me how either of them managed to have a kid. This is the chick that the first chick hooked me up with. To me she is drop dead gorgeous and maybe (but probably not) I would be a different man if she would get her act together and get her legs the opposite of together. For some reason the picture won't upload.I know how to get her.
It's the whole "boy leaves the village, comes back a man".
So you disapear and don't contact for 6 months. You hit the gym up hard. Like 6 x a week. Youll have a ton of a confidence and then 6 months later, send a message.
You will be totally new and you can hit it.
I did this and it worked!
To be honest after I fucked her, it was sort of a let down. She was and is a hot paisa but it just wasn't what I expected. But I did get out of it was leading a healhty way of life.
YippieKayay
04-13-17, 14:39
Disappointment on the way.Might be but I think you're assuming I'm looking for young and pretty. If a girl doesn't have hips wider than her waist and is over 25 I usually don't have any interest. If she has hips wider than her shoulders and is over 30 she's on my 'must fuck list. '.
El Mechanico
04-13-17, 14:56
And a extra $150 will get me 15 Centro girls. LOL.I hear you Wolf. I too am on a shoestring budget whenever I go to CR, Panama or Colombia. I have to save where I can. I admire someone who does what they have to do to enjoy their stay. After 2 or 3 trips out of other airports, I have come to realize that the 2 or 3 days to recover after the trip & the 2 to 4 hour drive are just not worth it for me! Good luck & enjoy.
Be Safe,
El Mechanico.
Sup Playas,
It's sad that people in Latin america are judged harshly based on where they live.I agree, completely. But most or all of us do not treat lower strata girls that way, and I do not pay more for seemingly higher strata girls. Thinking right now of a beauty that I nixed because she acted like she was special and deserved 300 k for "un tiempo". She seemed to think so much of herself that she did not need to agree on terms in advance and appeared to believe I would be lucky to have her come. I could tell she was going to try to work me.
Conversely, I find the lower strata girls have the opportunity to be respectful to guys like me (or us?) who do not try to low ball them just because they come from a low strata neighborhood. But more often than not they will attempt to get away with what they can and often do not act in a way that warrants repeats. I don't understand it but I guess they end up malformed and think "transactionally" as they would a deal on the corner in their barrio. A lot of what I expect about how people should think must be that I have a more well rounded mentality due to a society where most of my basic needs are available and attainable so I think further, or higher. They generally do not and seem unable to. We might think the low strata girls we meet would be dying for someone to be good and treat them "equally". But they are not, they see us as tourists to be exploited if we let them, the same way they expect to be potentially exploited in deals they make otherwise. Seems normal to them.
In a nutshell, instead of thinking you are great because you give 150k+ they likely think you are dumber than the average successful Colombian. Twisted huh?
Anyway, my question to you gents is does anyone have Estrato rating information on Itagui, Salvanetta, and Envigado?Generally a fair amount lower. I have friends that live in Envigado and not sure there is a strata as expensive as MDE's most expensive and even if an Envigado strata 5 or 6 probably not as expensive as a MDE 5 or 6- just guessing. Sabaneta and itaqui likely have significantly lower COL than even Envigado.
Here is some COL info on MDE and Envigado although I believe there is less info included on the Envigado COL report.
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Medellin
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Envigado-Colombia
FWIW, Envigado is a very sweet area. I like it a lot. It's just a little far out. But apartments are cheap, it's safe, and via metro or taxi everything is accessible. But convenient? Not always.
I would not assume a girl from Envigado, Itagui, or Sabaneta expects to be paid less however.
YippieKayay
04-13-17, 17:08
Conversely, I find the lower strata girls have the opportunity to be respectful to guys like me (or us?) who do not try to low ball them just because they come from a low strata neighborhood. But more often than not they will attempt to get away with what they can and often do not act in a way that warrants repeats. I don't understand it but I guess they end up malformed and think "transactionally" as they would a deal on the corner in their barrio. A lot of what I expect about how people should think must be that I have a more well rounded mentality due to a society where most of my basic needs are available and attainable so I think further, or higher. They generally do not and seem unable to. We might think the low strata girls we meet would be dying for someone to be good and treat them "equally". But they are not, they see us as tourists to be exploited if we let them, the same way they expect to be potentially exploited in deals they make otherwise. Seems normal to them.
In a nutshell, instead of thinking you are great because you give 150k+ they likely think you are dumber than the average successful Colombian. Twisted huh?
Pretty spot on. This girl from Cali that I met in Cartagena wanted 600 k for a full day, then said 300 k para un rato. I was just letting her know I'd be in Cartagena soon. When I told her I'd give her 200 k for a quick bang at a nearby love hotel she laughed and told me I have her confused with a friend. I'm like WTF. I'm doing what I always do in these situations and just move on. Mind you she's great in bed, but she's too money hungry for me. She even wanted me to buy her a Michael Kors watch and matching purse to bring to her. WTF haha.
You're better off with the semi-pros. The ones who put themselves on the market for a short period of time to pay bills. They're more willing to be reasonable and keep a long term friends with benefits relationship.
She even wanted me to buy her a Michael Kors watch and matching purse to bring to her. WTF haha.
.It can be insulting right? There must be enough of us who are "sad" that do that to make them believe most of us will, and that it won't hurt to ask. But it does. We usually nix those girls, right?
Do you think they ever realize that they actually lost money by turning you off?
then said 300 k para un ratoI rather doubt any native speaker of Spanish said any such thing.
YippieKayay
04-13-17, 18:54
Do you think they ever realize that they actually lost money by turning you off?Absolutely. This one in particular I know lost out on revenue. As a business decision it makes no sense. She's great in bed and a good looking woman (if a bit older and chubbier) but she would insist on 300 k like it was religion to her just to hit the hotel next to LDV. The last night I saw her she was standing outside LDV smoking a cigaratte alone at 2 am. I had a girl with me who agreed to go back to my place for 200 k.
Fuck her. There are hundreds more like her I can have.
I rather doubt any native speaker of Spanish said any such thing.
I believe she used "tiempo" and not "rato." I use rato for some reason. Glad to see you posting again, Dickhead.
Sup Playas,
Just thought I'd be a team player and post this interesting read about estratos. It's sad that people in Latin america are judged harshly based on where they live. Anyway, my question to you gents is does anyone have Estrato rating information on Itagui, Salvanetta, and Envigado? Thanks.
http://medellinliving.com/best-medellin-neighborhoods/
https://www.medellin.gov.co/irj/go/km/docs/wpccontent/Sites/Subportal%20del%20Ciudadano/Planeaci%C3%B3n%20Municipal/Secciones/Indicadores%20y%20Estad%C3%ADsticas/Documentos/Estratificaci%C3%B3n/ESTRATO_PREDOMINANTE%20POR%20BARRIO_2010.pdfJust a quick sampling of apartment rentals show all 3 to be estrato 3, 4 and 5. Check any real estate website if you want to figure out specifics. I use http://fincaraiz.com.co each listing usually shows a map and the estrato.
I hear you Wolf. I too am on a shoestring budget whenever I go to CR, Panama or Colombia. I have to save where I can. I admire someone who does what they have to do to enjoy their stay.Heck, I almost booked the Normandy Hotel next to Barre Exexutiva to save a few more bucks, it's $23 a night compared to $26 at Botero, but Botero has mini-fridges in the room, and I can save some money by keeping some store bought food and drinks in the room.
https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/normandia.html?aid=304142;label=gen173rf-1FCAEoggJCAlhYSDNYA3IFdXNfZmyIAQGYATG4AQzIAQzYAQHoAQH4AQKiAhppbnRlcm5hdGlvbmFsc2V4Z3VpZGUuaW5mb6gCAw;sid=69546f8fa2cccf7a01a46ee8c6b3e6f2;all_sr_blocks=55770901_89182154_2_0_0;checkin=2017-06-02;checkout=2017-06-03;dest_id=-592318;dest_type=city;dist=0;group_adults=2;highlighted_blocks=55770901_89182154_2_0_0;hpos=1;no_rooms=1;room1=A%2CA;sb_price_type=total;srfid=95e53d0b8d8ecd08ef9020bd30beb554bddcdf57X1;type=total;ucfs=1&#hotelTmpl.
I rather doubt any native speaker of Spanish said any such thing.Nothing wrong with using "rato", but I would guess she said "por" and not "para".
I believe she used "tiempo" and not "rato." I use rato for some reason. Glad to see you posting again, Dickhead.The 'rato' part I have no problem believing, but it's por un rato. I'm just giving you shit because of what you posted about how to pronounce Parque Lleras.
Any time you are exchanging one thing for another, it's 'por.' 'Para' indicates a purpose or a recipient, or a destination. 'Por' is also a route or method of transportation (por la ruta, por tren), and indicates an action on someone else's behalf (No llores por mi, Argentina = 'Don't Cry for Me, Argentina'.
Here's a few examples to compare and contrast the two:
'Vamonos por el parque para la avenida' = let's walk through the park to get to the main drag.
'Estoy trabajando por mi primo por un par de semanas para que el pueda descansar' = I am working my cousin's shifts for the next two weeks so he can take a break.
'Tengo una reserva (or in some places una reservación) para hoy por tres noches' = I have a reservation starting today for three nights.
'Compré un coche para trabajar por dos mil euro' = I bought a car for work for 2. 000 euro.
But, as they say where I am right now, 'Me suda la polla.' Or an argentino might say, 'Me chupa un huevo.' I don't think the indefinite article should be used there, though, but they do. Usually the indefinite article is only used if the noun is modified by an adjective: 'Necesito cerveza' vs. 'Necesito una cerveza bien fría.'
Hope that helps!
I don't ride motorcycles but I suspect you might regret taking the bike if you were to encounter one of those unexpected Florida rainstorms.I've raced Daytona Speedway in the rain on a bike. Now that was scary. I'll throw my rain gear in the saddle bags.
This is me here on the red bike waiting for the start at Daytona.
HumanBeing1
04-14-17, 04:15
No there aren't. There are a FEW hookers. Sure. Not a TON. A TON is what you saw around Botero plaza.OK true if you want to nit pick, but even on Sunday night we had absolutely no trouble locating attractive ones and negotiating them down quite a bit.
The whole Botero area was slimy to me. It was nice to walk around in the day but I can't imagine a scenario where taking one of the street walkers in that area would be a good idea. There were some very rough ones and many traps (both young girls and probable hidden penises).
I've been in Colombia since early November, mostly in Medellin. I've had a great time. I was in Fase II tonight and this was my first experience with any "attitude" on the part of women, no matter their place in the society. They were distant, sullen, minimally approachable, and either conceited or intensely insecure. Little or no interest in navigating interaction with a foreigner, even though my Spanish is not that horrible. Very unusual behavior it seemed. Maybe they don't want to be working Semana Santa. If so they should stay home. I don't know what it costs to take a girl up at Fase II, but there was no way I was paying it without a little effort on their part. Its too bad because I had a pocket full of money. There were only a few girls attractive enough to be asking for more than 40 or 50 mil anyway.
Luna Lunera was so dark, you wouldn't know if you were talking to a man, a woman, or an ape.Yup. Exactly the experience I had there. The prices were American strip club costs, I think it was going to be 160-200 to take one next door. They were very unfriendly. Immediately asked for us to buy them $10 drinks, when we denied they turned into total bitches. This place for me was the only blip on an amazing trip.
Black Page
04-14-17, 11:01
Heck, I almost booked the Normandy Hotel next to Barre Exexutiva to save a few more bucks, it's $23 a night compared to $26 at Botero, but Botero has mini-fridges in the room, and I can save some money by keeping some store bought food and drinks in the room.There's virtually no lower bound to how cheap a hotel can be in Medellin. I did my things with some girls taken from the street in the worst area of the Centro, paying the room 5 kCOP "por un rato" (I hope nobody will try to explain how to pronounce it, as it was done for Parque Lleras). In spite of that, I stay at Sheraton at Poblado. One thing is a quick deed, another is where I relax and live.
I would not recommend to dig the bottom of the barrel in choosing the hotel where to stay. Safety, hygiene, above all COMFORT are too important to enjoy a vacation.
Black Page
04-14-17, 11:03
Hope that helps!Kudos!! Outstanding explanation: precise and thorough.
Stopped by Linda's Chicas around 4:30, no girls told to come back at 7, came back two girls one is busy doing a ST neither are my type. Linda and Nancy tell to wait, so I wait and wait for three hours, linda keeps saying there is a holiday and all the girls are being lazy. Finally one girl shows, very pretty but tons of makeup and strange energy, also her boyfriend is standing nearby glaring at me when no one is looking. (WTF?) Negotiate price of 200,000 per day plus 150,000 for leaving. When we go to leave, they say the girl gets 400,000 per day, I'm shocked, as 750,000 seems crazy high. I change the plan from one week to just one day.
Experience with girl is very strange, stays away from me in room until I sweet talk her and we discuss her partying and makeup tips, but guys without spanish will definitely hit a wall and that is.
A problem. Her boyfriend keeps calling every few hours and she answers it quietly, Hello my Love, I'm still with a client, I'm staying at this place, stand outside if you want, and he texts her a lot as well. I ask her how many times per day she wants to have sex, she says ten times if she can, she is honest and when she is warmed up she does want me to keep going for as long as possible. The girl keeps saying 750,000 is not for a full day even though I confirmed this many times and insists that we go back so she can get her money and I can pay more money. We go there Linda says it's an extra 400,000 until midnight, this seems like a complete ripoff, so I say the girl can hang out with me and we can go to the mall but I'm not paying anything else. Linda says ok but no sex, the girl says I need to give Linda 100 out of respect.
There are girls across the city who want to date and mate with foreigners for free and will happily accept a much lower amount, I'm sorry but at 600,000 per day Linda's Chica's is a ripoff.
Bottom Line: Linda's Chica's is ok for semi-pro ST, but for LT a better option needs to be found for this forum, the same girls are available at every place in town.
YippieKayay
04-14-17, 17:12
Stopped by Linda's Chicas around 4:30, no girls told to come back at 7, came back two girls one is busy doing a ST neither are my type. Linda and Nancy tell to wait, so I wait and wait for three hours, linda keeps saying there is a holiday and all the girls are being lazy. Finally one girl shows, very pretty but tons of makeup and strange energy, also her boyfriend is standing nearby glaring at me when no one is looking. (WTF?) Negotiate price of 200,000 per day plus 150,000 for leaving. When we go to leave, they say the girl gets 400,000 per day, I'm shocked, as 750,000 seems crazy high. I change the plan from one week to just one day.You should have asked how much for the boyfriend haha, then seen his reaction.
In Cartagena I paid 300 k per day to a girl to wife up and she wanted 100 k more for the take out fine at the strip club. Is Linda's Chicas a brothel? I can't find it on the map. I had no idea brothels allowed for takeout.
YippieKayay
04-14-17, 18:14
OK true if you want to nit pick, but even on Sunday night we had absolutely no trouble locating attractive ones and negotiating them down quite a bit.
Are you talking about the ones in front of the liquor store? I spent a week in Medellin back in November and those ones were the only ones I saw. I only learned recently about Club Gusto which I will check out. Around what time do the prepagos come out?
I'm glad I have my friends with benefits. Because it's close to dead out here on the streets. The casa by the bus stop for the airport in El Centro was open for business yesterday but the lineup was weak. I made friends with the guys that run it. Super cool. The lineup there is never that good anyway. Semana Santa bring Medellin to a crawl.
Times like is when you need that network of semi-pro friends.
There's virtually no lower bound to how cheap a hotel can be in Medellin. I did my things with some girls taken from the street in the worst area of the Centro, paying the room 5 kCOP "por un rato" (I hope nobody will try to explain how to pronounce it, as it was done for Parque Lleras). In spite of that, I stay at Sheraton at Poblado. One thing is a quick deed, another is where I relax and live.
I would not recommend to dig the bottom of the barrel in choosing the hotel where to stay. Safety, hygiene, above all COMFORT are too important to enjoy a vacation.Yeah I found another hotel about a block or 2 from the Veracruz / botero block that was $8 a night but looked a little rough. LOL.
Hotel Botero Medellin was fine for me, TV / fridge / walk in shower /2 beds / A/C at $26 a night and about several hundred women within a 10 block radius available if you count all the street / casa / strip club girls.
My room.
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