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CurrymasalaNYC
05-01-09, 00:15
I had some very good experiences for TLN with girls here. Nancy the manager is a very nice host. If you speak a bit of Spanish then you can really get your point across to Nancy and she can find a hotty for you as long as you are patient. I think it is best that before going to the place you call her in advance. Make sure that person calling on your behalf can explain to Nancy what kind of girl you are looking for and finalize the details over the phone. Ask Nancy to have two or three girls per your criteria.
TLN charges were about 100 K exit fee and 200 K for the girl. I had the best nights with some of the girls from Lindas Chica Casa, but a word of caution is that you need to make sure that Nancy explains to the girl that she will have to stay till 8 am or later with you and that you require sex 2 or 3 times during her stay with you.
Honestly, the girls provided to me were so beautiful and young that I can really vouch for her services. If you can spend the above amount or may be around 350 K total for a night then I think this is a very good option. My experience got better every time I did a repeat visit to the CASA.
I like the girls to be between 18 and 21, and Nancy has some very beautiful girls in that age range. I highly recomend Nataly and Diana both are young and both are very beautiful. They both provided Girl friend experience to me. Now that I think about it, I wish I had spent more time with these two girls.
Only if Medellin did not have as many options, so many girls to do and so little time. Oh it hurts to even write any further, because the memories of some very hot sex are coming back to my mind.
Regards,
JohnWOW sounds great about $140 a night. not bad i guess. i was thinking of try these chicas for my 3 night trip!
Frank, great report as always.
As an aside, I double-checked this and was stunned to realise that 99% of your sentences end in exclamation points.
Wow!
Hey guys,
What a week! I had a couple friends from Cali stay with me for 5 days, what a turn on! I had never been with 2 normal girls at the same time, only working girls, and that never went well! I thought I was loosing it!
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John Gault
05-01-09, 14:31
I started this journey on April 1st in Lima and then came to MDE on April 19th. Have done many different things and girls (an orgy in each country). Today is May 1st. And I am leaving for Miami two days then back home.
About Frank Casio and My Place. If you are the kind of guy who likes the Hilton, then I don't recommend going to his Place. If you are a guy who likes to rather spend his money on Chica's then fancy hotels then this is a real good bet. You are at ground zero at Mayorista, You walk out your door and the action is right here. You have internet which for me is a big plus. The only draw back is you have one big bathroom for the three bedroom apt.
As for Frank He goes out of his way to help you with most anyhing you need to know. If you hang with him a little you will be surprised at how many phone numbers He picks up from non pros.
The main point I am making is that for $150 a week and $25 for any extra days how can you beat this kind of setup?
Happy hunting to all you Gents out there, I am now going to give Myself a nice long rest!
I end up at Lindas Chicas almost every day.
. I'll be giving it another go tonight.
. The problem is that I'm running out of Lindas Chicas to fuck. And there ain't no other place like it.
LosoAre you not allowed to repeat with some of the same chicas you've been with previously?
. I'll probably end up at Lindas Chicas again. 275k for a TLN GFE experience is a fair price to me.Hey you're right, not a bad price for the mostly gringo-speaking crowd but I'm sure glad I've got the gift of schmoozing.
Paying those prices nightly just wouldn't do for me, however, I do understand the convenience and quality this place offers to some.
Suerte amigos!
Carolinaman
05-01-09, 17:31
Has anyone done a short time there and stayed in house?
If so what was the cost?
Thanks to all of you who have answered my questions via PM.
Are you not allowed to repeat with some of the same chicas you've been with previously?I suffer from the new cow syndrome.
BTW, I explored a new playground yesterday and loved it - Mayorista!
Loso
Rock Harders
05-02-09, 01:02
Mongers,
I arrived in Medellin on an Avianca flight from Miami on Wednesday afternoon without hassle. I did notice that all the airline staff and Colombian security staff were wearing masks as a precautionary measure against possible swine flu. I am again staying at the same apartment facing Centro Commercial Vizcaya, perfect location, about $80 USD per night for a two bedroom top floor apartment. Wednesday night stopped into Las Americas down on 53rd to take a look around; there wasn't much talent to be honest, I think Maracaibo, which is only a few doors down, has a better lineup. Afterwards I went over to Fase II to see what their inventory was looking like these days. Although there was some talent, I was disappointed and I thought the lineup was significantly better on other trips there. My buddy and I did end up pulling two 20 year old girls from there and bringing them back to the apartment. Decent experience with the girls, although both were hardened professional hookers with many years in the business working in many locations despite their tender age.
Thursday in the early evening we went to the famous Loutron to see what they had in stock. They had a very, very impressive collection of ladies working and it was hard to make a decision. Both my friend and I were very satisfied with our experience here. Please note on the WT69 list that the hour here is now $185k COP. Thursday night we went and partied at a bar/disco on Calle 10 called Juana something that was filled with hot chicas dancing and getting drunk. I recommend it. Moreto come.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
Has anyone done a short time there and stayed in house?
If so what was the cost?
Thanks to all of you who have answered my questions via PM.This location was Venus and it was 40,000 for an hour.
I think mgmt changed hands.
I did a few onsite visits over the past few years.
Frank Casio
05-02-09, 19:22
Hi guys,
Just another wild night in Medellin Paradise! Me and some of my guests and friends met at Linda Chicas, Oso69, Panama Mike and Vicks Pics! Very nice place, very high end, and some pretty hot chicks! It was a little on the expensive side! 80k for the room and 100k for the "cutie"! It's a night Casa, located near Prado in El Centro on Clle. 58 #50A-54! "Multa" for taking the girl all night is $75k and $200k for the girl! Much more than I'm used to paying! I would pay as you go when buying beers or any alcohol while there, I think they inflate the "tab" at the end! I got the lady to reduce ours by 30k because I thouht it was excessive!
Since it was more than I was used to paying, I decided I would only do it if the girls decided to go along with an all out Orgy, my first one at "50"! It took some convincing, but at the end they all agreed to be phucked by the 4 of us each, for the same price! They were asking for more money, but after some convincing they all agreed on the $200k!
It was awesome, we took these 4 girls to Oso69's place in El Poblado and we started drilling them one after the other! These gorgeous women open their sexy legs while we pounded them dry! After a while they were in pain and couldn't handle any more big cocks up their hot little pussys! My first 2 were awesome, real good GFE, and seem to enjoy it as much as I did! The third one was beautiful, very smart and proffessional, but I think her orgasm was fake because it was too quick, but it was a pretty good imitation! These girls were hot, sucking and straddling and taking it all kinds of ways from the 4 of us, but at the end they were exhausted! We could have kept going all night, but many Colombian girls are kind of small and can't take all the pounding from some big "gringo" and "European" dicks!
First time I ever payed a "multa", but it was worth every "peso"! When it was all said and done, the 200k was divided up between 4 girls, the real cost was 50k each, and worth every bit of it! Another great Tuesday night in Medellin Paradise!
Frank Casio!
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Frank Casio
05-02-09, 20:32
Hi guys,
Non-stop action from Medellin Paradise, 30 April 2009! Again my guest and friend Vicks Picks and I went to 3 Cordilleras, a beer brewery near San Diego, right down the street from Fase ll, on Clle. 30 #44-176, Tel. 232-7792! Here we met up with our friend Panama Mike! There were about 6-7 other "gringos"! The folks at 3 Cordilleras were mostly from the "proffessional" class! It's not as hard as Parque Lleras to pick up girls there, but not as easy as Laureles, somewhere in between! It's a good deal, since you get 5 beers for $15, 000cop and a life band!
Panama Mike and myself, we went all out after the cutest girl there which is Andrea, one of the "tour guides" and spoke persons for 3 Cordilleras! She was a beautiful and intellegent girl, at least a "9"! We both managed to get her number! I talked to at least 3-4 other girls that were pretty receptive! On the way out both Panama Mike and I approached the lead band "singer", a really nice girl, and we also exchanged contact numbers! After a while you get so many "cuties" phone numbers in Medllin Paradise that it becomes almost impossible to keep up!
We left for La Mayorista around 10PM and met up with Oso69 there! I immediately rounded up 4 of my "cuties" from La Mayorista and they sat down with us for some beers and rum! The guys were really happy, Oso69 who up until now had been spending a good deal of money at "Lindas Chicas" said he would make La Mayorista his regular hang out! I'm sure that "hot" little Geraldine which was curling up to him had something to do with it! She's one of the hottest and classiest girls there, she's beautiful, at least an "8" with her long black hair, thin body, but curvy legs and hips with milky white skin and the face of an angel! I wrote a report on her once when she sang and dedicated a song to me with some "Mariachis"! I've yet have not had the pleasure to be with her, my friend oso69 beat me to her! He offered her $150cop to take her back to his place for the whole night, and he didn't have to pay a "multa"!
My friend Milena and 2 other "cuties" were sitting with us! Karolina came by later! Panama Mike started getting close to another one of the "cuties" at the table, a tiny light hair and light complexion sweetheart! She must weigh no more than 95 lbs, but has a nice full and curvy body, thin, but not skinny! Soon he took her away for 1/2 hr. Of pleasure! Panama Mike was not happy with her, since he said there were too many inerruptions with her friend and she also cut his time short! Some of these girls need a litle work, but for $12US, whose complainning! She's a real cutie and I cant't wait to have that little body jumping up and down on top of me! Meanwhile my friend Vicks Pics was all "gloom and doomed" since he was scheduled to leave Medellin the next day and was dying to re-meet with one of the girls from "Barra Ejecutivo" in El Centro which he had fallen head over heals for! He left to pursue that venue, I hope he found her!
Panama Mike and I went back to My Place for some conversation and a couple of beers! We came back down to La Mayorista around 4AM, but while still "hopping and bopping" the really hot girls had mostly left by then, although you could still find a couple ones! Another great Thursday Night in Medellin Paradise!
Frank Casio!
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Frank Casio
05-02-09, 21:10
hi guys,
i know, it's never ending here in medellin paradise, friday, 01 may 2009! i took my cute little model friend cindy out to dinner to mayorca mall between envigado and sabaneta! we had some nice conversation and light kissing, she had to leave early to go and stay all night at the hospital with her grandfather who had a kidney infection and i think had had a heart attack! she'll be comming wednesday to my house, hopefully for something more than "light kissing"! she's worth all the patience in the world! i waited 2 years to be with her and i'll always wait for her! she's not very expressive sexually, but i take comfort on the little milk that runs down her thigh when i make love to her!
it was only 8:15 pm when she left, so i called another friend, vanessa, to go out with me! i picked her up at her house in belen, right next to "universidad medellin"! we went to mcdonald's where she had a mcflurry! i was full from my dinner date with cindy! vanessa and i agreed to rent some videos and come over to my apartment in envigado! i was very excited, to say the least, but she would not budge! she kept re-stricting my hands, something that annoys me! we both felt asleep halfway through the movie and just curled! when the movie was over, i just wanted to take her home, it was 12 midnight!
on the way to her house she noticed i was a little quiet and i just told her that i didn't like being rejected or pushed away! i wasn't trying to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her, just wanted to caress her legs and maybe a few other places! she just said that she was trying not to get too excited because it was only our second date, but that the 3rd date would be much better! she was afraid i would not call her again! she started talking a little more seductive, and when i put her hand on my "package" she did not pull it away! she said she will be looking forward to our next meet! she kissed me pationately before going into her house! another great, low key, friday night in medellin paradise!
frank casio!
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Frank Casio
05-02-09, 21:34
Hi Art,
Do you know why I do that? Cause I sures hell don't! Maybe is because I love Medellin Paradise and sub-consciously feel that everything here deserves an exclamation point! Who knows! Annalize me, give me your best shot, or at least explain to me when exactly they should be used!
Frank Casio!
Frank, great report as always.
As an aside, I double-checked this and was stunned to realise that 99% of your sentences end in exclamation points.
Wow!
This location was Venus and it was 40,000 for an hour.
I think mgmt changed hands.
I did a few onsite visits over the past few years.He is asking abpout Lind's chicas, which down the street from Venus.
CurrymasalaNYC
05-03-09, 17:58
Do you have the contact info for the 70K girl in your penthouse laureles pics the hot one with long black hair where did you find this girl? My god.
Bobsthrobbinknob
05-03-09, 18:28
Hi Art, Do you know why I do that? Cause I sures hell don't! Maybe is because I love Medellin Paradise and sub-consciously feel that everything here deserves an exclamation point! Who knows! Annalize me, give me your best shot, or at least explain to me when exactly they should be used! Frank Casio!Maybe he missed the part about the orgies! And the 9's! And 10's! Where the sex ended with an exclamation point!
Keep it coming Frank! If these guys get too grammatically sensitive, send 'them to me first, I'll correct them and you can then post them!
Travelling Pete
05-03-09, 18:33
I just got back from my first trip to Medellin. This was my first trip to Colombia. I did a lot of research for it here on ISG before going and thought I would share with everyone my experiences.
I flew from Miami to the airport about 45 minutes above Medellin. That is a beautiful drive with lots of nice scenery. If you had a long flight make sure you take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the airport though since there are not many places to stop on the drive down.
I booked originally at the Medellin Mansion. But after a couple days I had to checkout because there was too much noise from the childish behavior of some of the other guests. One guy smelled really bad and would make me feel sick every time he walked by. I then went to check out the Medellin Executive Hotel. That place is way over priced for what is the equivalent of a 2 star hotel. Really funny name "Executive" for a place where no real executive would stay. I then moved on to Frank's My Place. I got to say dollar for dollar Frank has the best deal in all of Medellin.
There are a lot of real sweeties all around Frank's My Place. You just walk out the door and find anything you like, day and night. Frank is an excellent host and all around cool guy to hang out with. I bought him some rum and he talked up all the cuties for me. One night he brought me a real young girl with the smallest ass I had ever fucked. She was so tight it was great. I still remember sliding my big cock inside the smallest pussy I ever had. She laid there smiling the whole time. I think her name was Karen.
There is really no need to go anywhere else in Medellin since everything can be had right there. Excellent food is only about $3. 00 a meal right in front of My Place. Some nights I bet there were more than 300 girls right outside the door. Nice friendly Colombians all around drinking rum and having a good time. This is the REAL Colombia not like Poblado where all the stuck up people live.
I noticed that some of the girls that were working in the Mansion were also visiting Mayorista at night time. The difference is at the Mansion they want 150, 000 pesos while at same girl will only ask for 30, 000 at night in Mayorista. What a bargain!
On average I did 3 girls every day. At less than $15 a girl you really can live like the King of Medellin if you have the right connections. For me the right connection was Frank. Plus Frank has a list of his special sweeties that he was willing to share with me. He took out his book and made "the calls". One night he got this super special chica from one the small towns around Medellin. She was so innocent looking when she sucked on my cock that it made me blow my whole load right into her mouth and when I did that she gobbled it all down like a real princess.
Bottom line is if you want childish behavior and a lot of noise then the Mansion will provide it. If you want an over priced low quality hotel then the Executive is the place to go. But if you want very well priced digs in the heart of all the action then give Frank a call because he knows the things and the girls which is what it is all about.
Medellin is a great place. I am going to be back as soon as I save up some more cash. I hope to bring down a couple of buddies who I know will have a blast with all the sweeties at Mayorista.
One night I did go into Park Llaras to check it out since lots of people on here talked about it. Talk about a total RIP-OFF. I ate at a steak place the bill was over 40, 000! I could have got me a nice sweetie in Mayista for the price of that steak. I noticed the girls were pretty stuck up as well. I said Hi to the girl at the next table and she did not even smile at me. I am a gringo after all and the girls in Mayorista were more than happy to be with a foreigner. I cannot understand the big attitude change in Llaras.
I like to have a balanced perspective so I also went and checked out the Oviedo shopping mall. Wow, that place is also a total rip off. Some of the clothes there were more expensive than what a nice mall in the US would charge. Plus they charged me over 2, 000 for a coffee. In Majorista I could get a whole cup of juice for the same price.
I also went down to central one night to get more perspective. Lots of crazy people running around. It really is a circus there. I would not feel safe there for too long. Mayorista has a much more friendlier environment where everyone is laid back having a drink. It is a much more hip place than central. Basically the posers and wannabes all hang out in Llaras while the people who know the in places all hang out in Majorista.
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He is asking abpout Lind's chicas, which down the street from Venus.Venus is the new home of Lindas chicas.
Member #4427
05-03-09, 21:27
I met a girl my last time in Colombia, and we hit it off. I am wondering if anyone has taken a girl from Colombia to Mexico. Specifically Cancun. Does anyone know what documents are required to enter Mexico. I am thinking a passport and one of the Mexican Tourist Visa that they pass out on the plane. However I am looking for real world experience.
Also how long does it take for a Colombian to get a passport?
Thanks for any help.
I haven't been able to pull a single chica out of the Centro strip clubs because they all insist on being paid in advance. Yesterday, a Mayorista chica fled my apartment when I refused to cough up the dough "adalante".
If a girl wants to get paid in advance, I figure she won't respect the deal we've made (BBBJ, time she's going home.), so I stubbornly refuse. Paying upfront is a major issue in this town and it's seriously affecting my stats.
Comments?
Loso
Panama Mike started getting close to another one of the "cuties" at the table, a tiny light hair and light complexion sweetheart! She must weigh no more than 95 lbs, but has a nice full and curvy body, thin, but not skinny! Soon he took her away for 1/2 hr. Of pleasure! Panama Mike was not happy with her, since he said there were too many inerruptions with her friend and she also cut his time short! Some of these girls need a litle work, but for $12US, whose complainning! She's a real cutie and I cant't wait to have that little body jumping up and down on top of me!2 days later, Kelly had pitch black hair. I never saw her naked, but she has 3 kids. And she was the one who fled my apartment when I refused to pay in advance.
The interruptions during Panama Mike´s session were because Kelly and her friend wanted to do coca. And she bought a joint on the way to my apartment. Druggies are bad news!
Loso
CurrymasalaNYC
05-04-09, 02:18
Plus you have way more experience that me so I think you must be right and typically pay afterwards always is better.
Manizales911
05-04-09, 02:25
I haven't been able to pull a single chica out of the Centro strip clubs because they all insist on being paid in advance. Yesterday, a Mayorista chica fled my apartment when I refused to cough up the dough "adalante".
If a girl wants to get paid in advance, I figure she won't respect the deal we've made (BBBJ, time she's going home.), so I stubbornly refuse. Paying upfront is a major issue in this town and it's seriously affecting my stats.
Comments?
LosoNever, never, ever, ever pay in advance, period. Once a hooker has her money there is no incentive to perform to your expectations.
Travelling Pete,
Sounds like you want to advertise Frank's Place. There is no need to bullshit people on the board. Greg runs a pretty good place also and player hating is not a good idea being that everyone has different tastes. You like cheap, whereas others like upscale. To each his own.
John Gault
05-04-09, 03:32
I haven't been able to pull a single chica out of the Centro strip clubs because they all insist on being paid in advance. Yesterday, a Mayorista chica fled my apartment when I refused to cough up the dough "adalante".
If a girl wants to get paid in advance, I figure she won't respect the deal we've made (BBBJ, time she's going home.), so I stubbornly refuse. Paying upfront is a major issue in this town and it's seriously affecting my stats.
Comments?
LosoHola Loso;
Sorry I did not say goodby to you, you were a real sport letting us make a mess of your Apt.
As far as paying in advance it is almost an invitation for them to cut corners. Myself I let them see the money in a place were it would be hard for them to get it till the session was over. Like on my side of the bed. They have never taken it until I let them and it seems to work for me. For some reason this asking for payment in advance seems to happen more in MDE than in other parts of So. America.
MiamiHeatLuver
05-04-09, 04:42
I haven't been able to pull a single chica out of the Centro strip clubs because they all insist on being paid in advance. Yesterday, a Mayorista chica fled my apartment when I refused to cough up the dough "adalante".
If a girl wants to get paid in advance, I figure she won't respect the deal we've made (BBBJ, time she's going home.), so I stubbornly refuse. Paying upfront is a major issue in this town and it's seriously affecting my stats.
Comments?
LosoLoso you are a legend! I have been reading your reports for like 5 or 6 years. You of all people should have made that a key negotiation point before even leaving el centro OR mayorista. Keep to your guns do not pay up front!
I haven't been able to pull a single chica out of the Centro strip clubs because they all insist on being paid in advance. Yesterday, a Mayorista chica fled my apartment when I refused to cough up the dough "adalante".
If a girl wants to get paid in advance, I figure she won't respect the deal we've made (BBBJ, time she's going home.), so I stubbornly refuse. Paying upfront is a major issue in this town and it's seriously affecting my stats.
Comments?
LosoTry putting the money on a table in front of her. Ie. " It's yours after you finish"
"Puedes sacar la plata despues de cumplir los servicios"
If at first you don't succeed. Try again. An exotic beauty from Las Americas is sleeping in my bed as I'm processing the 200+ pictures of her.
Loso
Basically the posers and wannabes all hang out in Llaras while the people who know the in places all hang out in Majorista.Thanks for your post.
Mayorista is not the safest area in Medellín, either. Most Paisas that I know will not go there because it is too dangerous. Not everything is as it may appear in Medellín or in Colombia.
Please be very careful in the Mayorista area.
One night I did go into Park Llaras to check it out since lots of people on here talked about it. Talk about a total RIP-OFF. I ate at a steak place the bill was over 40, 000! I could have got me a nice sweetie in Mayista for the price of that steak. I noticed the girls were pretty stuck up as well. I said Hi to the girl at the next table and she did not even smile at me. I am a gringo after all and the girls in Mayorista were more than happy to be with a foreigner. I cannot understand the big attitude change in Llaras.What, you were led to believe that the whole city of Medellin is an open air wh*rehouse that exists to please gringo tourists?
You can't understand why after leaving a strip full of prostitutes, you begin talking to regular upper class chicks as a complete stranger and get a different attitude?
You know, a foreign guy who spends his entire vacation wh*remongering in La Mayorista is not exactly a prize catch for most chicks you'll find in Lleras.
Hey Loso,
I too suffer from the "NEW COW SYNDROME" LOL you have put it in such nice words. By the way please let us know how is Mayorista comparatively from Lindas Chicas.
Regards,
John
I suffer from the new cow syndrome.
BTW, I explored a new playground yesterday and loved it - Mayorista!
Loso
Thanks for all the comments about the payment upfront issue. To be clear, the chicas from the Centro strip clubs want you to pay the full amount (multa + chica fee) in the club. The reason is that Colombians sometimes don't pay the girls. They won't make exceptions for foreigners, unless they know & trust them.
The 1st time I spotted Evelin from Las Americas, she was sitting alone at a table. I grabbed her hand on the way back from the bathroom. She sat on my lap and was giving me sweet besos straight away. When I told her I wanted a chica for TLN, she suggested I meet her outside at closing time to avoid the multa. She never asked me for a drink. Her attitude was great! But she had to go home at 6 AM to take care of her kid, and I was looking for a girl to sleep with me.
Yesterday, Evelin was able to stay longer because her kid stays in boarding school on weekdays. She wasn't greedy and only asked for 100k TLN. It was only 10 PM, so I figured it was worth paying the 50k multa for 4 extra hours of her company.
Evelin also wanted me to pay in advance in the club. I explained that foreigners wouldn't pay in advance, but assured her she would get paid. And I said I'd give her a propina if she took good care of me. That clinched the deal.
I didn't negotiate services with Evelin. I just knew she'd be great. And she was! She earned her propina.
Loso
One thing that is not exactly working in our favor is the common use of the term 'prepago', eh? As a term, I really like it better than 'puta'. But it does seem to point to pre-payment.
I haven't run into this really at all. So of course I'll weigh in
*I really really bet that all of the girls in Mayorista-type places (and centro clubs) have had customers skip out after doing the deed. Mansion girls and the like probably don't have this issue as much. So I get it. I'm not saying I would agree to prepay, but I would probably mentally give the gal a break.
Loso & anyone else. How much is a decent (not lowest ever. Not highest ever) rate for TLN takeout from the centro strip joints?
Those places are pretty cool. But the only TLN I had from there didn't talk money in the club (I really don't know why not.) and, since she screwed my brains out above and beyond, I gave her the 150k that I gave all the mansion girls for ST. She didn't even look at it. I bet 150k is high. I know there's a 40k takeout (which we somehow skipped as well). But what do you give the girl? What did the pre-pay rejects ask?
Glad to hear chatter about these places boys! Can't wait to get back (in 2 weeks! ).
What, you were led to believe that the whole city of Medellin is an open air wh*rehouse that exists to please gringo tourists?
You can't understand why after leaving a strip full of prostitutes, you begin talking to regular upper class chicks as a complete stranger and get a different attitude?
You know, a foreign guy who spends his entire vacation wh*remongering in La Mayorista is not exactly a prize catch for most chicks you'll find in Lleras.Please those chicks from Lleras are just as easy as the mayorista chick.
Frank Casio
05-05-09, 02:20
Sure Tom,
How long have you been singing that Wimpy song ! Who do you work for ! Since you´ve been singing that song hundreds of "gringos" have been to La Mayorista, the Medellin Mansion in El Poblado was robbed and the side bars from my car were ripped off my car in Laureles along with the right side mirror ! Meanwhile I´ve been parking in La Mayorista for over a year without the slightest incident ! When was the last time you were there ?
A little bit hard for anything to happen in la Mayorista when there is a police station right up the street and police patrol the street up and down the whole night ! In addition it´s a 24/7 spot and people are out and about day and night, a little hard to "mug" somebody ! I spend many days in a week in La Mayorista with many a "gringos" and you´re the only one I´ve ever heard any fear from ! Come down and hang out with me and I´ll "protect" You if you´re really so afraid ! I don´t believe you are because you are never there, hence your opinion has no "merit" ! I believe you work or have a vested interest in one of the "high end" lodgings in El Poblado and find it necessary to trash La Mayorista !
My offer stands, come talk to me, I´m not afraid, all the guys know me, a lot of "gringos" from this post hang out with me out there ! Although they don´t feel any need for protection I´ll be glad to offer my protection to you so that you can come to "know" the real Mayorista ! It´s not El Poblado, nobody claims it is, but it´s not El Centro either, it´s a "stratus" 3, right in the middle of 1-6 !
If you are just a "high end kind of guy" and have money to burn, more power to you, but you don´t have to be casting unfounded fears about La Mayorista when it was the Medellin Mansion that got robbed, right smack in the middle of your prescious El Poblado ! If you change your mind, come to my World, La Mayorista, you might find yourself pleasently surprised ! I might even introduce you to Karolina for 25kcop instead of the 150k-200k she goes for at The Mansion, and a few other girls from the Medellin Mansion !
Frank Casio !
Thanks for your post.
Mayorista is not the safest area in Medellín, either. Most Paisas that I know will not go there because it is too dangerous. Not everything is as it may appear in Medellín or in Colombia.
Please be very careful in the Mayorista area.
Love to know what is the most extreme stuff you got a girl to do.
I have heard from some people of some twisted extreme stuff they have got girls to do.
I guess everyone has a price LOL
Superboy
CurrymasalaNYC
05-05-09, 05:15
After so many reports, I think anyone should be honored to hang out with you and honestly these girl will do whatever price they get at the time. You guys should know that by now. Thanks for the enlightment. A lot of people get scared off my such comments as I almost was then I realized that any area can be dangerous if you don't pay attention to your surrounding. Also, once in a while, you guys have to grow some balls, stand tall, and don't be afraid of anything. If they mug you, let them.
Sure Tom,
How long have you been singing that Wimpy song ! Who do you work for ! Since you´ve been singing that song hundreds of "gringos" have been to La Mayorista, the Medellin Mansion in El Poblado was robbed and the side bars from my car were ripped off my car in Laureles along with the right side mirror ! Meanwhile I´ve been parking in La Mayorista for over a year without the slightest incident ! When was the last time you were there ?
A little bit hard for anything to happen in la Mayorista when there is a police station right up the street and police patrol the street up and down the whole night ! In addition it´s a 24/7 spot and people are out and about day and night, a little hard to "mug" somebody ! I spend many days in a week in La Mayorista with many a "gringos" and you´re the only one I´ve ever heard any fear from ! Come down and hang out with me and I´ll "protect" You if you´re really so afraid ! I don´t believe you are because you are never there, hence your opinion has no "merit" ! I believe you work or have a vested interest in one of the "high end" lodgings in El Poblado and find it necessary to trash La Mayorista !
My offer stands, come talk to me, I´m not afraid, all the guys know me, a lot of "gringos" from this post hang out with me out there ! Although they don´t feel any need for protection I´ll be glad to offer my protection to you so that you can come to "know" the real Mayorista ! It´s not El Poblado, nobody claims it is, but it´s not El Centro either, it´s a "stratus" 3, right in the middle of 1-6 !
If you are just a "high end kind of guy" and have money to burn, more power to you, but you don´t have to be casting unfounded fears about La Mayorista when it was the Medellin Mansion that got robbed, right smack in the middle of your prescious El Poblado ! If you change your mind, come to my World, La Mayorista, you might find yourself pleasently surprised ! I might even introduce you to Karolina for 25kcop instead of the 150k-200k she goes for at The Mansion, and a few other girls from the Medellin Mansion !
Frank Casio !
Just got into town tonight, would love to know where la Mayorista is located. Sounds like a really interesting spot. Dragging tonight but looking forward to scouting tomorrow.
I'm more of a day time Monger, always have been just not a late night guy. Frank your place sounds interesting, could you PM me with some contact information please.
I'm mid 40's laid back, well traveled and really bad spanish. Though 5 days of spanish only GF last week helped. Being half deaf doesn't help, but the Cartagena hearing aids have been a big plus.
Tip of the day don't eat the lettuce! I was warned but chose to ignore, Dumb Ass! I normally eat everything and have for the last 7 weeks but jumped out and bit my ass last Friday. My GF wouldn't touch a salad. Now I know why I am still recovering it was a brutal Friday night. Haven't been that sick since Honduras 1991. Know it's bad when you can compared to 18 years ago.
Stay safe and have fun
Sky
World Travel 69
05-05-09, 07:42
Go And do What You Want Do!
Or Maybe Don't.
Why do you ask?
Love to know what is the most extreme stuff you got a girl to do.
I have heard from some people of some twisted extreme stuff they have got girls to do.
I guess everyone has a price LOL
Superboy
Sure Tom,
How long have you been singing that Wimpy song ! Who do you work for ! Since you´ve been singing that song hundreds of "gringos" have been to La Mayorista, the Medellin Mansion in El Poblado was robbed and the side bars from my car were ripped off my car in Laureles along with the right side mirror ! Meanwhile I´ve been parking in La Mayorista for over a year without the slightest incident ! When was the last time you were there ?
A little bit hard for anything to happen in la Mayorista when there is a police station right up the street and police patrol the street up and down the whole night ! In addition it´s a 24/7 spot and people are out and about day and night, a little hard to "mug" somebody ! I spend many days in a week in La Mayorista with many a "gringos" and you´re the only one I´ve ever heard any fear from ! Come down and hang out with me and I´ll "protect" You if you´re really so afraid ! I don´t believe you are because you are never there, hence your opinion has no "merit" ! I believe you work or have a vested interest in one of the "high end" lodgings in El Poblado and find it necessary to trash La Mayorista !
My offer stands, come talk to me, I´m not afraid, all the guys know me, a lot of "gringos" from this post hang out with me out there ! Although they don´t feel any need for protection I´ll be glad to offer my protection to you so that you can come to "know" the real Mayorista ! It´s not El Poblado, nobody claims it is, but it´s not El Centro either, it´s a "stratus" 3, right in the middle of 1-6 !
If you are just a "high end kind of guy" and have money to burn, more power to you, but you don´t have to be casting unfounded fears about La Mayorista when it was the Medellin Mansion that got robbed, right smack in the middle of your prescious El Poblado ! If you change your mind, come to my World, La Mayorista, you might find yourself pleasently surprised ! I might even introduce you to Karolina for 25kcop instead of the 150k-200k she goes for at The Mansion, and a few other girls from the Medellin Mansion !
Frank Casio !I work for no one. I am retired and live in estrato 4, Barrio Santa Mónica, Comuna La América. There is a difference between fear mongering and reality. I regularly speak to Paisas who shop in la Mayorista weekly. If anything the less desirable areas in Medellín have become more dangerous with the economic problems facing the world.
People I know have met you and like you. However, your seeming lack of common sense and your antics on other boards leave me wondering.
Unless you are with them at all times, Mayorista is no place for a rookie. My first night in Medellín was spent in a love hotel in Mayorista in 2004. And I have been back a few times over the years. I just don't care for the area.
Frank Casio
05-05-09, 20:48
Tom, Tom, Tom,
Of course La Mayorista is not for normal girls, it's for "hookers"! Regular girls walk out by the street in order not to be identified with them! As always you're a little off base! I never said La Mayorista was for normal girls! And I don't know what all girls you've been talking to, because even some of the Taxi drivers don't know about La Mayorista, let alone all the women you're talking about that fear it! Very few normal girls in Medellin know about La Mayorista, but they all know about "La Zona de La Moda", one of the most famous shopping areas in Medellin for jeans and clothing of all sorts at bargain prices! It's like the outlets in the USA, everybody from Medellin goes there, and it's only a couple blocks from La Mayorista! Not to mention La Mayorista, a huge Farmer's Market just up the street with over 1/2 a dozen banks an huge SuperMarkets!
I don't like your antics either from that other site, I thought I recognized you, but I forgive you! You are more than welcome to my side of town, it's not as bad as you think! Keep reading other people's report and maybe you will not be afraid anymore! I do get rookies here all the time, most of them are, and doctors and little accountants, etc. "No Problema"! I also give a pretty thorough Orientation and offer my Wingman services free for My place guests! You're welcome any time, Tom!
Frank Casio!
I work for no one. I am retired and live in estrato 4, Barrio Santa Mónica, Comuna La América. There is a difference between fear mongering and reality. I regularly speak to Paisas who shop in la Mayorista weekly. If anything the less desirable areas in Medellín have become more dangerous with the economic problems facing the world.
People I know have met you and like you. However, your seeming lack of common sense and your antics on other boards leave me wondering.
Unless you are with them at all times, Mayorista is no place for a rookie. My first night in Medellín was spent in a love hotel in Mayorista in 2004. And I have been back a few times over the years. I just don't care for the area.
MiamiHeatLuver
05-05-09, 21:32
Tom, Tom, Tom,
Of course La Mayorista is not for normal girls, it's for "hookers"! Regular girls walk out by the street in order not to be identified with them! As always you're a little off base! I never said La Mayorista was for normal girls! And I don't know what all girls you've been talking to, because even some of the Taxi drivers don't know about La Mayorista, let alone all the women you're talking about that fear it! Very few normal girls in Medellin know about La Mayorista, but they all know about "La Zona de La Moda", one of the most famous shopping areas in Medellin for jeans and clothing of all sorts at bargain prices! It's like the outlets in the USA, everybody from Medellin goes there, and it's only a couple blocks from La Mayorista! Not to mention La Mayorista, a huge Farmer's Market just up the street with over 1/2 a dozen banks an huge SuperMarkets!
I don't like your antics either from that other site, I thought I recognized you, but I forgive you! You are more than welcome to my side of town, it's not as bad as you think! Keep reading other people's report and maybe you will not be afraid anymore! I do get rookies here all the time, most of them are, and doctors and little accountants, etc. "No Problema"! I also give a pretty thorough Orientation and offer my Wingman services free for My place guests! You're welcome any time, Tom!
Frank Casio!I am always much more vigilant and aware of my surroundings in mayorista. Even when I walk across the street to take a leak by the lined up trucks. Telling somebody not to keep their wits about them in mayorista I feel is misleading. For Christs sake its like Tijuana. I'm with TOMTOM 100% on this one.
Nyc you talking rob or mug? Guys got a gun, he can rob me. Yes sir and have a nice evening. Guys going to try and mug me and rough me up. Nope already have a set of balls and we are going the distance, and for gods sake don't let me get you down. I don't like a thief!
I am really the most laid back guy and never puff up and start shit. I learned along time ago there are allot of people that don't look like bad asses that really are and they don't need a gun.
So I let allot of shit pass, but try to mug me and I will have an attitude.
An a guy with a knife against two is stupid or crazy but you already have him out flanked. Never roll over and play the *****!
Socrates69
05-06-09, 05:08
I haven't been able to pull a single chica out of the Centro strip clubs because they all insist on being paid in advance. Yesterday, a Mayorista chica fled my apartment when I refused to cough up the dough "adalante".
If a girl wants to get paid in advance, I figure she won't respect the deal we've made (BBBJ, time she's going home.), so I stubbornly refuse. Paying upfront is a major issue in this town and it's seriously affecting my stats.
Comments?
LosoHi Loso,
Glad you hear you're in mde now. You are 100% correct to not pay in advance. I never did and got along famously, but I usually told the girl that payment would be afterwards before we left for my apt. I typically take street girls though. For casa girls, I'd meet them after work or on their days off and also would pay afterwards then as well.
Rock Harders
05-06-09, 06:08
Mongers,
Just got back from another fine trip to Medellin, and as such it's time for a summary and some relevant comments regarding some different areas. On Friday and Saturday nights, I hung out with a group of three Poblado non-pros that I met at my bar in Buenos Aires a while back. We went to a fairly new club located in Barrio Colombia called Karma. This was a very nice club, to my understanding one of the smaller and more exclusive clubs for for upper class Paisas. There was a ratio of about 3:2 female/male. I do not think they admit male-only groups, and there was a great scene of about 60-65 high-end patrons, age 21-32 roughly. Interestingly enough, one of the owners of the club recognized me at BodyTech Vizcaya on Monday and asked me what I thought of his club, explained it opened six months ago, etc.
Saturday night we went to La Mayoria in Sabeneta, which is a sort of traditional Colombia music venue with 30-40 year old groups and couples mainly. There is a dancing horse show and some good singers and dancers from several styles of Colombian music. A little later, we went to the adjacent disco, which had a Mexican theme and was a fun and nice club, I think its name was Puebla. Sunday night we just went out to dinner at the Cuban restaurant in Parque Lleras (which was terrible) and then to a place called Tropical Cocktails, also located in Sabeneta.
On Monday my buddy and I went to Loutron's for some nice massage and sex action. I went with a curvy Paisa working under the name Angelica, and she was a great performer. Very, very sensual, GFE, great massage and truly worked hard to please me in every way. As I stated in a previous post the price is $185k for an hour, a bottle of water cost $5k and a Corona $15k.
As far as the Mayorista is concerned, it is not a particularly dangerous place in my opinion or experience. It is, however, filled with mostly low quality girls and the male customers are sleazy truck drivers; I certainly would not want to share the girls with sleazy truck drivers.compared to what is available at Loutron, Fase II, or the internet, the overwhelming majority of girls that work at Mayorista are out of shape and nasty/dirty. Generally, but with exceptions, you get what you pay for in the world of Colombian mongering. I have never met Frank Casio and therefore I have no opinion on the services he provides. In terms of the really low end mongering in general, I don't really understand why a guy would travel all the way to Colombia and want to have sex with low end street-level chicas for $20 USD or less. For $60-$80 USD you can get a beautiful, well groomed and maintained chica from either the internet, a club such as F II (which I don't really like much), and of course Loutron's.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
TonySoprano
05-06-09, 06:50
Hello,
I will be going to MDE in five weeks. Can any one tell me where I can find the model type prepagos? Someone per say that looks like Andrea Rinco (Selena Spice).
Many Thanks
Tony S
CurrymasalaNYC
05-06-09, 07:26
What about Laureles? Is it safer to stay in? I know there's a penthouse. I really like frank's wingman services but after reading all these comments I am a little unsure about mayorista. It sounds a little like Rio de Janeiro in some parts which is scary.
CurrymasalaNYC
05-06-09, 07:31
Mansion, Laureles Penthouse, or Mayorista in Frank's place. I really like frank but I really like the laureles area shown in the photos of malodr and the mansion seems really nice but it is really expensive. I a new and my experience is limited to Canada, USA, Aruba. Basically tourist destinations where it is really easy.
So please give some advice.
CurrymasalaNYC
05-06-09, 07:32
Guy with a knife or gun or any sharp object. Getting whatever money I have on me. Dude it's not worth it. No amount of money is worth your life.
Nyc you talking rob or mug? Guys got a gun, he can rob me. Yes sir and have a nice evening. Guys going to try and mug me and rough me up. Nope already have a set of balls and we are going the distance, and for gods sake don't let me get you down. I don't like a thief!
I am really the most laid back guy and never puff up and start shit. I learned along time ago there are allot of people that don't look like bad asses that really are and they don't need a gun.
So I let allot of shit pass, but try to mug me and I will have an attitude.
An a guy with a knife against two is stupid or crazy but you already have him out flanked. Never roll over and play the *****!
Nyc you talking rob or mug? Guys got a gun, he can rob me. Yes sir and have a nice evening. Guys going to try and mug me and rough me up. Nope already have a set of balls and we are going the distance, and for gods sake don't let me get you down. I don't like a thief!
I am really the most laid back guy and never puff up and start shit. I learned along time ago there are allot of people that don't look like bad asses that really are and they don't need a gun.
So I let allot of shit pass, but try to mug me and I will have an attitude.
An a guy with a knife against two is stupid or crazy but you already have him out flanked. Never roll over and play the *****!I am extensively trained in real world combat, including knife and gun defense. No matter how much of a bad ass you are, you just never know how something is going to play out. If you went after a loved one of mine, there is no length I wouldn't go to. But to get into any fight, particularly one involving a weapon, for the few bucks in my pocket is just not worth it to me. We all have to pick what is worth fighting for, for ourselves. Just my perspective and a little food for thought.
Frank Casio
05-06-09, 20:05
Hi guys,
Yes guys, I'm adding an additional 1/2 bath at My Place for all you guys with blatter or kidney problems, ha, ha! And for all the "beer lovers", we all know how that goes! Most likely within the next week or two!
Frank Casio!
Yesterday, I escorted Luisa back to Mayorista after a ST in my apartment. It was 3.20 AM by the time we got there. My friends had left and I was the only gringo in Mayorista. But there were still plenty of people around, so I felt perfectly safe. I stuck around until 4 AM to search for my 3rd Mayorista girl for the night, but couldn`t find a girl to my liking at this late hour.
Loso
Mansion, Laureles Penthouse, or Mayorista in Frank's place. I really like frank but I really like the laureles area shown in the photos of malodr and the mansion seems really nice but it is really expensive. I a new and my experience is limited to Canada, USA, Aruba. Basically tourist destinations where it is really easy.
So please give some advice.Check out all three and decide.
What about Laureles? Is it safer to stay in? I know there's a penthouse. I really like frank's wingman services but after reading all these comments I am a little unsure about mayorista. It sounds a little like Rio de Janeiro in some parts which is scary.I walk around in Laureles all hours of the night and day. I did in Poblado as well.
Hey guys,
I am planning a 1-week trip to Medellin around the 4th of July and was thinking about staying that the Belford Dann Carlton in Medellin. I am going to be spending this week with a girl who I met online who lives in Medellin as well. She's smoking. If things don't go well, I will go girl crazy obviously.
Anyway, I want to know the best hotel for the price. They are quoting me $71/night, around $78/night with taxes and fees. It seems pretty good for the location and the 5 Star status.
I was hoping for something cheaper, maybe $50 night, but I want a decent hotel to bring my girl to. And to enjoy my stay. It is my first time in Medellin.
Please recommend or if you have stayed here, let me know.
Lastly, if you know how to get the cheapest ticket to Medellin, where or when. Let me know. Too.coming from Los Angeles.
Thanks a million.
CurrymasalaNYC
05-07-09, 06:40
How much money do I need to bring for a 3 day night trip including for lodging girls etc? Is $1500 enough?
Manizales911
05-07-09, 14:18
How much money do I need to bring for a 3 day night trip including for lodging girls etc? Is $1500 enough?Dude,
The only person that can answer that question is YOU after you RTFF. The price for food, lodging and girls varies tremendously so that no one could possibly answer your question accurately not knowing whether you prefer a 45k a night hostel or a 350k a night hotel. Same goes for your taste in food and girls. Read the forum, take notes and you can accurately determine what it is going to cost YOU.
John Gault
05-07-09, 14:29
Hi guys,
Yes guys, I'm adding an additional 1/2 bath at My Place for all you guys with blatter or kidney problems, ha, ha! And for all the "beer lovers", we all know how that goes! Most likely within the next week or two!
Frank Casio!Frank that is great.
Now I would say your place is perfect for a guy with my tastes.
Manizales911
05-07-09, 14:29
Hey guys,
I am planning a 1-week trip to Medellin around the 4th of July and was thinking about staying that the Belford Dann Carlton in Medellin. I am going to be spending this week with a girl who I met online who lives in Medellin as well. She's smoking. If things don't go well, I will go girl crazy obviously.
Anyway, I want to know the best hotel for the price. They are quoting me $71/night, around $78/night with taxes and fees. It seems pretty good for the location and the 5 Star status.
I was hoping for something cheaper, maybe $50 night, but I want a decent hotel to bring my girl to. And to enjoy my stay. It is my first time in Medellin.
Please recommend or if you have stayed here, let me know.
Lastly, if you know how to get the cheapest ticket to Medellin, where or when. Let me know. Too.coming from Los Angeles.
Thanks a million.I don't have any advise on hotels,the only two times I went to Medellin I stayed at MM.
Cheaptickets.com for flights,you will not find a ticket cheaper anywhere,period. Once in a great while you might save 10 bucks on Orbitz but their website sucks IMHO. Kayak will find the same flights on cheaptickets and direct you to their site if you prefer the functionality of their site better.
Just go here:
http://www.travelocity.com/
If you want to compare prices (the diff. Is negligible) & get some tips like best day to purchase your tix & best day to fly, check out http://www.farecompare.com/
I just got airfare to Medellin cheaper than what it cost me to go to Costa Rica last year. You picked a good time to fly.
Hey guys,
Lastly, if you know how to get the cheapest ticket to Medellin, where or when. Let me know. Too.coming from Los Angeles.
Thanks a million.
I just paid $371 to go from NYC. Great deal.
I also recommend using www.sidestep.com. It searches multiple sites simultaneously and has some cool interface features.
Daves Pison
05-07-09, 22:32
I will suggest you to visit loutron girls are around $80. 00. I visited Medellin last month and, this was the best choice take it from me that I live in miami lots of beautiful girls to choose from, I DID THE Medellin TOUR centro, la mayorista, san diego, fase 2, lots of girls but not quality but if you want to just stick it these places are not a bad experience. Parke lleras hunting was better for me.
Just my 2 cents
Hello,
I will be going to MDE in five weeks. Can any one tell me where I can find the model type prepagos? Someone per say that looks like Andrea Rinco (Selena Spice).
Many Thanks
Tony S
How much money do I need to bring for a 3 day night trip including for lodging girls etc? Is $1500 enough?Amigo, just bring the ATM card.
No need to hide money under the mattress.
Use what ya need :)
Basic stuff
CurrymasalaNYC
05-08-09, 04:57
American is only $340 with taxes NYC/mde.
It's pretty cheap round trip.
These are some random pics of my trip to Medellin in 2006. A friend had given me an apartment to use, but after spending a some time at the Mansion, I got a room there as well. It was a great decision. I met some great guys, and more importantly, some great girls. This captures a little of the ambience of the Mansion. I've since been back numerous times. I am a little reluctant to post photos, but since it's been 3 years, I figure it's ok.
If you enjoy them, I'll post more. I certainly have plenty to spare.
I will suggest you to visit loutron girls are around $80. 00. I visited Medellin last month and, this was the best choice take it from me that I live in miami lots of beautiful girls to choose from, I DID THE Medellin TOUR centro, la mayorista, san diego, fase 2, lots of girls but not quality but if you want to just stick it these places are not a bad experience. Parke lleras hunting was better for me.
Just my 2 centsDo you mean this place from the list?
*1. Loutron, Calle 12 Sur # 10-245. 7-16 Chicas. Prices: 110 20 min., 140k 30 min., 170k hour. Tel: 321 44 90, 444 42 04. Hours: Monday to Thursday Noon to 11pm, Friday to Saturday Noon to 9pm.
How much money do I need to bring for a 3 day night trip including for lodging girls etc? Is $1500 enough?Do not carry large sums of cash on your person when in Medellin period!ATM card will give you 400k pesos per day(maybe more?).Use caution walking around, even in Poblado and leave the gold chain and watch in the room.I know from experience what can happen and you don't want to find out
Be safe.
As far as the Mayorista is concerned, it is not a particularly dangerous place in my opinion or experience. It is, however, filled with mostly low quality girls and the male customers are sleazy truck drivers; I certainly would not want to share the girls with sleazy truck drivers.compared to what is available at Loutron, Fase II, or the internet, the overwhelming majority of girls that work at Mayorista are out of shape and nasty/dirty. Generally, but with exceptions, you get what you pay for in the world of Colombian mongering. I have never met Frank Casio and therefore I have no opinion on the services he provides. In terms of the really low end mongering in general, I don't really understand why a guy would travel all the way to Colombia and want to have sex with low end street-level chicas for $20 USD or less. For $60-$80 USD you can get a beautiful, well groomed and maintained chica from either the internet, a club such as F II (which I don't really like much), and of course Loutron's.
Suerte,
Rock HardersPretty good summary of the Mayorista.
I've been visiting the area for years, well before Frank's place was even a thought.
Though I wouldn't make it the center of my visit to Medellin by a long shot, I do enjoy visiting the area.
If I have nothing else going on, I like to show up at about midnite or so and sip on a rum and flirt with some of the chicas.
I usually buy some food and rum shots for some chicas and just hangout a bit.
Yep, most of the chicas are not so hot, however, a few cuties will pop up, depending on the night.
Like with any other chica in other venues, if you can speak spanish with them, if you treat them nicely and gain a bit of their confidence, you can get some nice service, otherwise it will most likely be a quick, bang bang experience.
I've seen guys offer some of the cuter chicas pretty good money for a longer term session, only to be rejected because the chica didn't like the guy or trust him.
Funny as it may sound, though these are low-end street chicas, they, especially the cuties, can be choosy at times.
As far as danger goes. Well, there is a police presence there, and if you stay in the main area, you should be OK.
I have seen fights break out, and of course some shady characters, but nothing like in el Centro at night.
Obviously as it gets later, like after 3am, things seem to get a bit more dicey and less police presence if any, though a sub-station is just down the street.
Basically, if you're not an idiot, you should be OK.
The more spanish you can speak, the better.
As far as Frank goes. I met him, he seems like a good guy with concern for his guests. He was a bit jealous that the chicas liked me more more than him :) Hahaha
His place was OK also. Nothing luxurious, but OK. Good for the price he charges.
Good luck guys.
I haven't been able to pull a single chica out of the Centro strip clubs because they all insist on being paid in advance. Yesterday, a Mayorista chica fled my apartment when I refused to cough up the dough "adalante".
If a girl wants to get paid in advance, I figure she won't respect the deal we've made (BBBJ, time she's going home.), so I stubbornly refuse. Paying upfront is a major issue in this town and it's seriously affecting my stats.
Comments?
LosoOne trick I learned from my time in Costa Rica that works pretty well, is to show the chica the cash that was agreed upon beforehand (you can even show her 1 or 2 bills more, tell her if you really enjoy the experience you would give the extra to her as a propina, which could incentivize her to work her hardest). But put it out of reach. So she knows that 1.) you have the money, and 2.) that she still have to work to get it.
Most of the time they just don't trust that you have the money, once you assure them you do, most girls don't have a problem w/ being paid after.
Hi Tweeners,
Sorry guy, Cindy is not a Working Girl, she´s just a College girl and model, one of my special sweethearts that katers to my needs only ! But if she ever "turns" you´ll be the first to know ! Meanwhile, I have many other "cuties" I can introduce you to ! If I were really bad, I could send you some pics. of her in a "tiny winny" bikini, then you would really freak out, but I reserve those pics only for "my guests" !
Frank Casio!Hi Frank,
Mattco here. New to the Columbia scene on here. Do you own a place (Bar, hotel) there? I have a Columbian women working with me now and she has opened my eye's a bit as to the Beautiful women there. I'd love to go sometime. Please advise.
Thanks Mattco
John Gault
05-09-09, 01:24
These are some random pics of my trip to Medellin in 2006. A friend had given me an apartment to use, but after spending a some time at the Mansion, I got a room there as well. It was a great decision. I met some great guys, and more importantly, some great girls. This captures a little of the ambience of the Mansion. I've since been back numerous times. I am a little reluctant to post photos, but since it's been 3 years, I figure it's ok.
If you enjoy them, I'll post more. I certainly have plenty to spare.Yes I enjoyed them. #4952 is my kind of woman. please post more.
Traveling pete great report. Tried to PM you but you can't get them apparently. So here's what I wrote. Loved your report. It's impossible to do the research on this place with all the fighting that goes on in the forums. There should be a page for reports only and no comments. Just my opinion. Would make things easier to research for everyone. I appreciate you takin the time to write the report. 2 questions as like yourself I'm looking to go down to MDE myself. I'm 29 years old and I love colombian women. I'm going to be going by myself. Will I be safe #1? How much money did you spend if you were there for a week? That is if you don't mind me asking. I only have like 2 thousand to spend when I get there for a week. Would that be enough? I am not a fancy guy. I don't need luxuries. I just want a gorgeous blonde and I'm a happy man. I'm more of a grilled cheese man when I'm on vacation. I don't like to experiment with foreign foods and risk ruining my trip as I only get 1 per year with my job. Thanks in advance man.
Bettaman
Shark Bait
05-09-09, 02:09
I have found a very nice hotel in Laureles. It is the Casa Hotel Asturias. I really like this place and the people that work here are very nice. It is very clean and chica friendly as long as they dont dress like putas. The hotel is behind the Pamona about two blocks in. It is very quiet so you can sleep and it is close to setenta. I usually stay at Johns place but he has been filled up lately. I did stay at Johns for four days and then moved here. I have had my chica spend the night with me every night at the hotel and have had no problems.
Ok, just for you VP.
Yes I enjoyed them. #4952 is my kind of woman. please post more.
Do not carry large sums of cash on your person when in Medellin period!ATM card will give you 400k pesos per day(maybe more?).Use caution walking around, even in Poblado and leave the gold chain and watch in the room.I know from experience what can happen and you don't want to find out
Be safe.You can do multiple transactions in any ATM up to the daily limit set by your home bank. Say your home bank has a limit of US$500 per day, the exchange rate is 2200, and the ATM has a limit of 300K per transaction. You can do three transactions of 300K and one of 200K.
It is normally best to get the money inside a shopping center. Then bring it back to your hotel/apartment and secure it. Be careful and watchful when using an ATM.
Daves Pison
05-09-09, 16:20
Yes my friend. Alot of our members claimed that loutron is an expensive choice but, to me quality over quantity. Yes there are lots girls that want to have sex with a gringo or foreigner but I seek the best looking girls in Medellin in das what loutron provides for me. Like I said fase2, san diego this places is hard to have a connection with the girls before they jumped you at the entrance for cover then they want you to buy a half of bottle of rum at70, 000cop not for me my friend. Don't get me wrong I would stay at la mayorista or el centro but again did not find anything to my taste so far.
Do you mean this place from the list?
*1. Loutron, Calle 12 Sur # 10-245. 7-16 Chicas. Prices: 110 20 min., 140k 30 min., 170k hour. Tel: 321 44 90, 444 42 04. Hours: Monday to Thursday Noon to 11pm, Friday to Saturday Noon to 9pm.
There is a good singles party this weekend May 15th Friday in Envigado, a good mix of prepagos, semi pros and local college girls, just be careful with solicitation of sex, make sure she is a prepago, college girls will get offended.
Girls for all types, shapes and ages will be at the party
More info on
http://www.romancelatina.com/faq.php
Directions are posted on the site
You could get lucky! With some locals cuties!
Traveling pete great report. Tried to PM you but you can't get them apparently. So here's what I wrote. Loved your report. It's impossible to do the research on this place with all the fighting that goes on in the forums. There should be a page for reports only and no comments. Just my opinion. Would make things easier to research for everyone. I appreciate you takin the time to write the report. 2 questions as like yourself I'm looking to go down to MDE myself. I'm 29 years old and I love colombian women. I'm going to be going by myself. Will I be safe #1? How much money did you spend if you were there for a week? That is if you don't mind me asking. I only have like 2 thousand to spend when I get there for a week. Would that be enough? I am not a fancy guy. I don't need luxuries. I just want a gorgeous blonde and I'm a happy man. I'm more of a grilled cheese man when I'm on vacation. I don't like to experiment with foreign foods and risk ruining my trip as I only get 1 per year with my job. Thanks in advance man.
BettamanA lot of the information you seek can be found by simply reading the threads. It is generally better to ask questions after you have done your homework. People don't like doing your work for you. This is not an attack, just some advice on getting the most out of this board.
I have not been to Medellin yet, but here is the information I have gathered from reading the boards:
1. Regarding Safety. Anything can happen. However, if you are careful you should be fine. Basic safety principles apply. Don't get too drunk in public, because you become a target. Try to go out with groups and/or take cabs whenever possible. You can hire a driver/guide for relatively little money. Great option in my mind. See if you can hook up with other hobbyists if possible. Don't wear bling or flash anything of value. Be careful when using ATMs, and don't carry large amounts of cash around. Wherever you stay, make sure they have a safe. Keep your valuable in there.
2. How much money you spend is totally up to you. Based on your "grill cheese" tastes, you would probably be happy staying at a apartment like Frank's place. It is about $150 for the week. Actually, Frank's place sounds perfect for you, because he sometimes acts as a guide and sometimes goes out with those staying at his place as one of your wingmen, has girls phone numbers, etc. Frank seems to like to bargain hunt, pick up semi pros, and deliver more of a organic experience. (***Edited to add Frank's comments Below about what he offers. See below)He seems like a great guy. Read his reports and the difference between picking up street girls, and using the more expensive places. (Figure you will be spending between $30 and $100 per girl per session) It depends upon how lucky you are, what your tastes are, how much work you want to put in, etc. But 2K is plenty of money. If you spent it all wisely, your dick is probably going to be really sore by the time you get home
Since you have the money, if you want to pamper yourself a bit, you could stay at the Mansion. You will pay about $75. $95 a night. The rooms are bigger, nicer, with private baths, etc. They have nice common rooms, a swimming pool, etc. (There are other Mansion type places as well.) They bring girls to you, but at a higher rate. There are also good casas, clubs, and escort agencies as well. And staying there does not prevent you from looking for a bargain in the ways you would with Frank. My choice was to stay at the Mansion, just because I like to pamper myself when I go on vacation. But I will venture out a bit from the mansion.
Most importantly, take the time to read these boards. It will be well worth your time on many levels. Read the General thread, Medellin reports, and Medellin lists. Read the cell phone thread. If you are staying at a particular place, read relevant threads. (Mansion thread, or private apartment threads)
Good luck from one Medellin virgin to another.
Hi guys,
People are misunderstanding my Wingman offer at My Place! It's more like a tour of some of the "casas" and some of the "striptease bars" which I do in groups or individuals depending on whose staying at My Place! There is no way I can personally wing everybody that stays at My Place! And if I could I would be crazy to loose so much income (as in a little over 3 hrs. I would make the $25US I charge for a room)! I would also not have much of a life or time to post, respond to possible clients, etc. !
I'm not a taxi cab, I offer a lot more than any taxi cab can offer! I translate, organize, party, meet girls anywhere, know just about all the "hot spots" and protect my clients physically, and their wallets from being over charged! If I were a Wingman, I would not come cheap! And people are forgetting that I live here, hence, I can't possibbly go out every night like you guys who come just for vacations, and I wouldn't have any money left over if my expenses were not payed! The letter which I send out to all possible guests clearly states "Wingman fee plus expenses", all expenses! I only waive the Wingman fee, my expenses have to be covered!
If I'm not in a drinking mood, you'll be in good shape, but if I'm in a partying mood and your being cheap, then it will be a very short Winging session! On my party nights sometimes I go out with my guests, but that's at my pleasure or discretion! When I go partying with girls and guests (as many of you have seen in the info. and hundreds of pics. that I send out) my clients pay 75% of the tab, if it's just one guy, and all of the "ladies" transportation costs! The full tab if it's more than one guy! Agencies here charge big bucks for " introductions", I do it for "free"! The least I can expect is for the guys to cover my expenses!
But I will give you an unsurpassed orientation, and a tour worth it's weight in gold! I will transfer to you a very valuable fountain of knowledge in a very short time. The rest of the time that I choose or not choose to be with my guests depends on my schedule! You'll receive a great orientation, but I can't be a personal Wingman for everybody! People are very happy with what I teach them, but some are thinking it's more than I'm offering! Just wanted to set the record straight on this matter!
Frank Casio!
Yes my friend. Alot of our members claimed that loutron is an expensive choice but, to me quality over quantity. Yes there are lots girls that want to have sex with a gringo or foreigner but I seek the best looking girls in Medellin in das what loutron provides for me. Like I said fase2, san diego this places is hard to have a connection with the girls before they jumped you at the entrance for cover then they want you to buy a half of bottle of rum at70, 000cop not for me my friend. Don't get me wrong I would stay at la mayorista or el centro but again did not find anything to my taste so far.Thanks for the response! I definitely don't mind paying more for convenience, ease, greater chance of success, and hottness. For me, looks is really important. The hotter the better. I figure, to get two really smokin' hot girls for a few hours would cost me five grand in New York. So spending a few hundred is really a bargain. What sucks is when you pay more, and get the same thing you would otherwise get, which is always a risk.
Ok, just for you VP.Hot photos!
Thanks for posting! Post more if you are so inclined.
I have found a very nice hotel in Laureles. It is the Casa Hotel Asturias. I really like this place and the people that work here are very nice.Do you remember how much you paid per night for the room?
OtravezEnColmbia
05-09-09, 21:26
i have gone to the mayorista several times. yes the quality is much lower than fase ii or some of the other places. the other thing that really scares me about this area is that it seems like there are a number of **** chicas working here. of course they will all tell you they are 19 or 22 or whatever and most even have fake ids, but i just don't trust any of them. the other option is that you can go with some of the abuelas.
i have seen chicas turn down guys. that just cracks me up. picky putas. never heard of that.
pretty good summary of the mayorista.
i've been visiting the area for years, well before frank's place was even a thought.
though i wouldn't make it the center of my visit to medellin by a long shot, i do enjoy visiting the area.
if i have nothing else going on, i like to show up at about midnite or so and sip on a rum and flirt with some of the chicas.
i usually buy some food and rum shots for some chicas and just hangout a bit.
yep, most of the chicas are not so hot, however, a few cuties will pop up, depending on the night.
like with any other chica in other venues, if you can speak spanish with them, if you treat them nicely and gain a bit of their confidence, you can get some nice service, otherwise it will most likely be a quick, bang bang experience.
i've seen guys offer some of the cuter chicas pretty good money for a longer term session, only to be rejected because the chica didn't like the guy or trust him.
funny as it may sound, though these are low-end street chicas, they, especially the cuties, can be choosy at times.
as far as danger goes. well, there is a police presence there, and if you stay in the main area, you should be ok.
i have seen fights break out, and of course some shady characters, but nothing like in el centro at night.
obviously as it gets later, like after 3am, things seem to get a bit more dicey and less police presence if any, though a sub-station is just down the street.
basically, if you're not an idiot, you should be ok.
the more spanish you can speak, the better.
as far as frank goes. i met him, he seems like a good guy with concern for his guests. he was a bit jealous that the chicas liked me more more than him :) hahaha
his place was ok also. nothing luxurious, but ok. good for the price he charges.
good luck guys.
Nice pix airhead. If these were from 2006, then this lady was Aussie Greg's girlfriend at or near that time. She really exudes a great deal of sexuality in person, something a pic cannot totally capture. She since has had a baby, and Greg told me that she had to lose some of the pregnancy fat to come back. If she has come back, then lucky whomever!
Ok, just for you VP.
I have gone to the Mayorista several times. Yes the quality is much lower than Fase II or some of the other places ...Now that's a revelation ... :)
Ya gotta take the Mayorista for what it is. It's not the reason to visit Medellin, at least IMO it shouldn't be.
It's a stopping place to check out, flirt a bit, and maybe find a cutie that's cool enough if you're lucky.
To compare it to Loutron, Face Dos, etc is silly really.
Hasta pronto ....
Frank Casio
05-10-09, 04:57
Hi guys,
People are misunderstanding my Wingman offer at My Place! It's more like a tour of some of the "casas" and some of the "striptease bars" which I do in groups or individuals depending on whose staying at My Place! There is no way I can personally wing everybody that stays at My Place! And if I could I would be crazy to loose so much income (as in a little over 3 hrs. I would make the $25US I charge for a room)! I would also not have much of a life or time to post, respond to possible clients, etc. !
I'm not a taxi cab, I offer a lot more than any taxi cab can offer! I translate, organize, party, meet girls anywhere, know just about all the "hot spots" and protect my clients physically, and their wallets from being over charged! If I were a Wingman, I would not come cheap! And people are forgetting that I live here, hence, I can't possibbly go out every night like you guys who come just for vacations, and I wouldn't have any money left over if my expenses were not payed! The letter which I send out to all possible guests clearly states "Wingman fee plus expenses", all expenses! I only waive the Wingman fee, my expenses have to be covered!
If I'm not in a drinking mood, you'll be in good shape, but if I'm in a partying mood and your being cheap, then it will be a very short Winging session! On my party nights sometimes I go out with my guests, but that's at my pleasure or discretion! When I go partying with girls and guests (as many of you have seen in the info. and hundreds of pics. that I send out) my clients pay 75% of the tab, if it's just one guy, and all of the "ladies" transportation costs! The full tab if it's more than one guy! Agencies here charge big bucks for " introductions", I do it for "free"! The least I can expect is for the guys to cover my expenses!
But I will give you an unsurpassed orientation, and a tour worth it's weight in gold! I will transfer to you a very valuable fountain of knowledge in a very short time. The rest of the time that I choose or not choose to be with my guests depends on my schedule! You'll receive a great orientation, but I can't be a personal Wingman for everybody! People are very happy with what I teach them, but some are thinking it's more than I'm offering! Just wanted to set the record straight on this matter!
Frank Casio!
Daves Pison
05-10-09, 14:20
I've in Medellin a few times and, I have failed to meet a blonde so far. There are alot of white skin girls but dark or brown hair. Read between the lines the fighting that goes in this forum it's because the menbers have different opinions of the women we meet base on their experiences. Matter fact this is a healthy for the new members, it gives all the information you need to have a safe mongering experience. Use your atm is better instead of pulling us dollars infront of people and the food you can eat at any regular food shop for $3 or $4 not bat at all, grilled cheese I have no idea where you can get one, unless you go to the market and buy the food.
Traveling pete great report. Tried to PM you but you can't get them apparently. So here's what I wrote. Loved your report. It's impossible to do the research on this place with all the fighting that goes on in the forums. There should be a page for reports only and no comments. Just my opinion. Would make things easier to research for everyone. I appreciate you takin the time to write the report. 2 questions as like yourself I'm looking to go down to MDE myself. I'm 29 years old and I love colombian women. I'm going to be going by myself. Will I be safe #1? How much money did you spend if you were there for a week? That is if you don't mind me asking. I only have like 2 thousand to spend when I get there for a week. Would that be enough? I am not a fancy guy. I don't need luxuries. I just want a gorgeous blonde and I'm a happy man. I'm more of a grilled cheese man when I'm on vacation. I don't like to experiment with foreign foods and risk ruining my trip as I only get 1 per year with my job. Thanks in advance man.
Bettaman
World Travel 69
05-10-09, 16:06
It is Listed in the Hotel Thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2654
Casa Hotel Asturias, Circular Cuarta 73 – 124. Rates: 140k-170k. Tel: (57-4) 260-2872, 414- 2945. http://www.lemanoir-egina.com/pagina.php?p_a=61
Do you remember how much you paid per night for the room?
I was thinking about staying that the Belford Dann Carlton in Medellin. They are quoting me $71/night, around $78/night with taxes and fees. Hotel Dann Carlton Belfort-Medellin
From a local ad: "Plan Fin de semana y puentes".
$129000 + iva ($58 at 2200 = $1).
http://www.danncarlton.com/
Frank, my apologies if I misrepresented what you offer in any way.
I edited my post accordingly to avoid any confusion.
If you're looking for cheap action then these spots are your best bet. I'll start with the worst.
Majorista is probably the worst spot for cheap action. Very little hot girls and they are selective. Maybe someone like frank casio has the connections there but if you go solo then don't expect anything good at all. Also the most expensive street action with few of the girls willing to discount their high prices. I have to add that they are amongst the worst performers I have ever been with. Although the area is very safe in my opinion. Sometimes the police close down the street and just hang there watching everything.
53rd is a step up from majorista. Usually a decent police presence so don't worry too much at night but not as safe as majorista. (Don't wonder away from where all the action is). Better selection, cheaper prices, and much better performance from the girls.
Casas are also a cheap and good alternative. I had a good experience there with GFE but I don't like how the rooms are brightly lit and everything is so quiet around me (feels like everyone in the casa will be able to hear me).
My favorite are the strip clubs along maracaibo ave (just down from junin). There are 3 or 4 strip clubs right in a row (las americas, ejecutivo, and maracaibo bar). Las americas seems to be the cheapest with the girls and the selection can be pretty good. I also like the rooms because of the mood lighting (most hotel rooms are very brightly lit). Also, I have almost always gotten full GFE at las americas. Maracaibo show has some nice ladies but they charge a little more (not much more. Maybe 10k more). I've never been in ejecutivo. I don't know, doesn't seem that attractive of a place from outside (I don't like the long ass hallway you have to walk down to enter the place). The strip bars are safe even late at night but I wouldn't wander away from the action. I wouldn't stick around when all the strip clubs are closing. I generally like strip clubs cause I can sit and relax while watching the girls dance or walk around (no presure to make quick decisions like in a casa).
Again, this is a review of cheap action.
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Errol Flynn
05-10-09, 19:00
Been back from Columbia two weeks now, and missing it more every day. With all that Medellin has to offer I only got to make one brief Casa trip, so I am no expert, but figure I'll throw in my experience to add to the mix.
At the time I was staying at the Castillo. Boyd, who is the regular Casa guide was in Sacramento and although the info on this site is good I wasn't too keen to go off on my own the first time (I think I was more cautious than I needed to be). Hanging by the pool at the Mansion a couple guys said they were going to a Casa and so I asked to tag along and they readily agreed. They wanted to try Sexy where there was a special of two girls for 37, 000 pesos (I believe it's 25, 000 for one girl there, that's $10! ). Like most Casas Sexy is through a non-descript doorway. We were buzzed in without question and welcomed by the Mamasan. She offered drinks, I took a beer, and then presented the line up. This was about 2 in the afternoon and there were maybe 20 girls. Several were doable but there were no real stunners, I tend to prefer the slimmer, younger types and these girls while not obese were of the thicker variety and mostly older (by which I mean late twenties). Had this been in Sex Prison I would have definitely done a girl there, but after being spoiled by the beauty of the Mansion girls we all decided to check out another place. The Mamasan was very pleasant about it, I paid 3000 cop for my beer (pretty standard) and we left.
From there we went around the corner to New Life. Similar entrance, slightly more upscale inside, and the girls were clearly a notch above. We were shown about thirty girls (remember to bring pen and paper) and I considered about six of them to be really hot, although none of them were at the same level as the best of the Mansion girls. I settled on Mari, beautiful face, about 25, a body that looked fantastic in her sexy clothes, not quite so once she was out of them, cesarean scar, and a bit more sag and wrinkle than I expected.
We went downstairs to a very basic but clean room. There was no pretext of a massage, but Mari got naked immediately and started playing with/licking my nipples before her hand went to my cock. She then asked if I had a condom (I did and I advise always bringing a couple) and wanted to do a cbj. In my basic Spanish I tried to work out a BBBJ which she said she would do for a propina of 20, 000. That's about $8, a hefty chunk of the total price, but to me a BJ's just not worth doing covered so I agreed and she proceeded. It was okay, nothing to write home about (but it's better to write to the ISG on these things! ) and she pretty much pushed the sex along. We did a couple of positions and I came and she ushered me into the shower. Not really rushed but not GFE either. I gave her the tip I'd promised, then we went upstairs where I paid 36, 000 for the session and had a beer and watched the girls prepping for their presentations while I waited for the other guys. Total damage with the beer and BBBJ, 59, 000 COP or about $25. Certainly spectacular value, but the experience couldn't be compared to the GFE beauties I had at the Mansion (or with Girlfriendforaweek). For me, life's too short to compromise on sex, but of course that's just my opinion and your needs/desires may be different. It cost a third of what a couple hour session with a Mansion girl costs, but imho they're apples and oranges.
I did want to check out some higher end Casas, Loutron's just to see it but never made it there, Lindas Chicas which is highly recommended by respected sources and I tried to go to Elements but that was on a Sunday and they were closed (not mentioned on the list, but common for centro casas).
All in all the only real problem with Medellin is so many girls, so little time.
Errol
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Frank Casio
05-10-09, 19:23
Hi guys,
Tuesday, 5 de Mayo 2009, I took one of my guest to Barra Ejecutiva and met up with Panama Mike and some of his friends! Barra Ejecutiva is an El Centro near Parque Berrios and Botero Museum! It's the last of a long line of Striptease Bars (7-8) in the Maracaibo area! I visit Maracaibo because I thought the prices were lower, only to find out Tuesday night that they were ripping "gringos" of at Barra Ejecutivo and were charging them $5, 000cop for a $4, 000cop beer or rum and $7, 000cop for the girls drink, which are in fact only $5, 500cop. It Seems that the "weiders" were pocketing an additional $1, 000cop for every "gringo" drink!
This really ticked me of, as I encourage "gringos" to be fair, but not cheap in their tipping (10% tipping), and all the while they were being ripped off! Never had this happenned at Maracaibo Club, Conejitas, Las Americas or any of the other Striptease Clubs that I visit in that area! I called the manager yesterday and gave him an ear full and told him that if this keeps happenning I would give him a very bad posting in one of the most frequented "gringo" web pages and that he stood to loose a lot of clients! He appologized and said he would remedy the situation! I will be waiting to see and keep you guys posted! The Striptease Club itself is very nice and has a nice line up of "cuties"! They go for 50k, although they will try to ask "gringos" for 60-65k!
We had fun there, but then we all decided to go to La Mayorista for some real action! We found Loso69 there who has made La Mayorista his personal hang out and taking 2-3 girls to his apartment almost every day, karolina, Geraldine, etc. Just to mention a few! He had already taken a couple that night and was back for more! My friend Panama Mike ran into a couple "cuties" which he thought were hot, a gorgeous blonde with an accompanning pink hot pussy and a cute Mulato girl! I tried to warn him, looks can be deceiving! I had been with both of these girls, and although I loved D's pink pussy and curvy legs, her attitude is terrible, as Panama Mike soon found out! He got so pissed he kicked them both out and was visibly upset! Well, we soon found him "angel face" Geraldine, a Demi Moore look alike (that's what gringos call her) and one of the hottest bodies around (at least an "8")! Apparently she more than made up for the other 2 loosers!
Meanwhile, I lost track of Loso69 and brought my guess down the stairs from My Place to pick a "cutie"! He was looking for Karolina, but was very happy to meet one of the other girls (forget her name) which many of my guests like, more for GFE than anything, but she's still a hottie! He took her up to My place and fell asleep in her arms, he was pretty drunk, I was a little worried! But when she came down, she told me he was alright and had fallen asleep! The next day he told me she was really nice, he had just arrived that night and she was his first! I was glad for him!
Soon after I ran into Ricker from ISG and his brother and gave them a tour of My Place! Ricker said he liked it and would write a positive report on it. His brother really liked it and figured out that if you take 2 girls up to My Place and not have to pay the $12, 000cop you normally pay for the motel, you'd save a ton of money. And a room at My Place would actually end-up costing you around $12US with the savings! If you are the kind of "stud" that would take 4 girls up every night you would end-up staying for "free" at My Place with the savings! Not to mention that nobody will be knocking on your door and the girls end up staying a lot longer!
Ricker mentioned that he has been comming to La Mayorista for years, which was obvious from the cuties that knew him and some of the "perks" he got! I assumed he must really liked the place, specially after he mentioned that he missed the old days when there were not as many "gringos" around! He more or less said that he was sad so many "gringos" were starting to invade or come to La Mayorista! He took a thin girl which I would rate a "6", and was with her for more than 45 mnts. Without being charged extra for the room! Apparently he is very well known at La Mayorista!
This reminded me of a guy I knew from another web page, PV from CRT, who was always trashing La Mayorista and then sent me a private email with pics. Of some of the girls he had taken to the Medellin Mansion from La Mayorista! The very same "hotties" I was used to "loving", while at the same time appologizing for trashing my "posts" and explainning that he was just a little fat "accountant" that felt like a king at La Mayorista and did not want it to be runned over by a bunch of "gringos" Like in San Jose! I've always had another take on life, when I find something beautiful, fun or enjoyable in my travels, I love to share it!
As for this matter of trashing "truck drivers" in La Mayorista and calling them "slimy" or what ever, I believe these people should have more respect for the middle class Colombian! Truck drivers anywhere, including the USA make a pretty good living and they are far from "slimy"! They are very hard working guys, some of them even look like accountants or your average "Joe", hence, I find it offensive for these "arrogant" individuals to be calling them "slimy"! So in the future I would rather you keep those comments to yourself and stay in your "glass ceiling" houses if that's where you want to be, but no need to trash hard working middle class individuals!
As for the girls in La Mayorista, if they were so slimy and dirty, Ricker would not be going there for years and regretting a "gringo" invasion of La Mayorista, PV from CRT would not be taking them to the Medellin Mansion in droves, Loso69 would not have made it his new playing ground as he loves beautiful women, my guests from Costa Rica would not be saying they are as "hot" as anything you would find in San Jose, and last, but not least, you would not find "me" there as I am a very clean and organize guy, bordering on "compulsive"! But all of this will be put to rest after I post "First Pics. Ever of La Mayorista Strip" and "A Few of La Mayorista girls at My Place", and other places!
Frank Casio!
I stopped going to Ejectivo last trip, there is a bald waiter always trying to rip you off.
Ricer and his bro are always at Mayorista, I went with them several nights in February, those guys should rent your place just for that reason LOL
I have some leave to use before the big trip to the sandbox and figure, WTH, why not Medellin. Flight RT from Chicago is $375 w/ taxes.
I've stayed at the Mansion before and could stay there again, but I am intrigued by Frank Casio's My Place in Mayorista. Anyone have any thoughts on My Place? Anyone know how to contact Frank?
Anyone have any advice on different mongering places besides the usual Loutrons, Fase Dos, etc?
Hope to get some good advice and intel from the brotherhood. HOOAH!
CurrymasalaNYC
05-10-09, 23:09
Please post pics for those guys like me in the states PLEASE we need VISUAL AIDS.
Majorista is probably the worst spot for cheap action. Very little hot girls and they are selective. Maybe someone like frank casio has the connections there but if you go solo then don't expect anything good at all. Also the most expensive street action with few of the girls willing to discount their high prices. I have to add that they are amongst the worst performers I have ever been with. Although the area is very safe in my opinion. Sometimes the police close down the street and just hang there watching everything.I prefer to fuck the girls in the comfort of my El Poblado apartment. Most of the Mayorista chicas are happy to go for 60k for an hour (a little more than the 50k they charge for an hour at Mayorista). My return taxi fare is slightly higher than the room at Mayorista would cost (14k vs 12k). There are some real cuties at Mayorista and most of my 11 Mayorista chicas have been great performers. :)
53rd is a step up from majorista. Usually a decent police presence so don't worry too much at night but not as safe as majorista. (Don't wonder away from where all the action is). Better selection, cheaper prices, and much better performance from the girls.I`ll check it out...
I've never been in ejecutivo. I don't know, doesn't seem that attractive of a place from outside (I don't like the long ass hallway you have to walk down to enter the place).If you walk down that long ass hallway, you`ll find that Ejecutivo has by far the largest and best selection of the Centro strip clubs. You can fuck any of them for 50k (30 min; cold shower). But getting the girls to leave with me without paying in advance in the club has proved to be a mission impossible.
Loso
Jodi In Heat
05-11-09, 00:59
First time going to Columbia, would appreciate feed back and advise.
And yes, I have RTFF.
Does anyone have any experience using Spirit Airlines from Fort Lauderdale to Medellin? (spiritair.com) Prices seem to be really low. I'm wondering if there's a catch.
Ps Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this question.
I was at the GringoRon's house party last time, there were some real cute girls, I was able pickup some pussy, they were just drunk and were ok with 100K each, nice BBBJ, doggy, and 3 some, and stayed for many hours.
There is a good singles party this weekend May 15th Friday in Envigado, a good mix of prepagos, semi pros and local college girls, just be careful with solicitation of sex, make sure she is a prepago, college girls will get offended.
Girls for all types, shapes and ages will be at the party
More info on
http://www.romancelatina.com/faq.php
Directions are posted on the site
You could get lucky! With some locals cuties!
Manizales911
05-11-09, 13:38
First time going to Columbia, would appreciate feed back and advise.
And yes, I have RTFF.If you've RTFF then you should know there is no "u" in Colombia.
Frank Casio
05-11-09, 18:00
Hi guy,
I've only heard good things about Spirit Airlines from my clients!
Frank Casio!
Does anyone have any experience using Spirit Airlines from Fort Lauderdale to Medellin? (spiritair.com) Prices seem to be really low. I'm wondering if there's a catch.
Ps Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this question.
Frank Casio
05-11-09, 18:07
Hi guy,
Most of the people that I know that have started elsewhere have regret it, including myself! Most of the "hotties" anywhere in Colombia are from Medellin, hence, it's always better to come to the "source"! You can find my email in the "Medellin Apartments" thread for info. And lots of pics.
Frank Casio!
First time going to Columbia, would appreciate feed back and advise.
And yes, I have RTFF.
Frank Casio
05-11-09, 18:18
Hi guy,
Please go to the "Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments Thread" for info. On My Place and my email so that I can send you additional info. And lots of Pics.
All you guys that havn't opened an account where you can be contacted directly with info. Should read more of the threads and go to "Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments" for Lodging info. You can also "click" on a persons name to get more info. And other "posts" that they have written!
Frank Casio!
I have some leave to use before the big trip to the sandbox and figure, WTH, why not Medellin. Flight RT from Chicago is $375 w/ taxes.
I've stayed at the Mansion before and could stay there again, but I am intrigued by Frank Casio's My Place in Mayorista. Anyone have any thoughts on My Place? Anyone know how to contact Frank?
Anyone have any advice on different mongering places besides the usual Loutrons, Fase Dos, etc?
Hope to get some good advice and intel from the brotherhood. HOOAH!
Floyd Dylan
05-11-09, 19:38
Again my guest and friend Vicks Picks and I went to 3 Cordilleras, a beer brewery near San Diego, right down the street from Fase ll, on Clle. 30 #44-176, Tel. 232-7792! Here we met up with our friend Panama Mike! There were about 6-7 other "gringos"! The folks at 3 Cordilleras were mostly from the "proffessional" class! It's not as hard as Parque Lleras to pick up girls there, but not as easy as Laureles, somewhere in between! It's a good deal, since you get 5 beers for $15, 000cop and a life band! Thanks for the tip. I've been missing real beer, and have always loved breweries. But. I tried going here at 10: 30pm on Saturday night. Closed, locked up tight, no one around. The street is a bit sketchy, too. No other businesses open (other than Fase II, around the corner). Huh, you would think it would be hopping on a Saturday night. Strange.
I also swung by on Sunday afternoon. Same story.
Do you suppose it's an after-work place, only open on weekdays?
Carolinaman
05-11-09, 22:16
Does anyone have any experience using Spirit Airlines from Fort Lauderdale to Medellin? (spiritair.com) Prices seem to be really low. I'm wondering if there's a catch.
Ps Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this question.There is no catch but this is a budget airline.
Most times you have to pay for any luggage stowed in the plane.
Cost one way for that is $15.00 if done at the time of the ticket purchase and $25.00 if you wait until you get to the airport.
So that is another $30 to $50 for stowing a bag.
In addition there is no free food or drink.
The do have great fares but do not pass up the looking at American and others to the same destination.
Try searching on Expedia and Orbitz.
Both out of Miami.
John Gault
05-12-09, 01:05
Does anyone have any experience using Spirit Airlines from Fort Lauderdale to Medellin? (spiritair.com) Prices seem to be really low. I'm wondering if there's a catch.
Ps Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this question.I just got back from MDE on Spirit. The only catch is they charge for checked luggage and snacks. Just bring some snacks as they charge you for everything even water. Also if you buy something you have to use a credit card, no cash. The quoted prices at first do not include tax, but still are a bargin most of the time.
Safety Guy II
05-12-09, 01:17
I have some leave to use before the big trip to the sandbox and figure, WTH, why not Medellin. Flight RT from Chicago is $375 w/ taxes.
I've stayed at the Mansion before and could stay there again, but I am intrigued by Frank Casio's My Place in Mayorista. Anyone have any thoughts on My Place? Anyone know how to contact Frank?
Anyone have any advice on different mongering places besides the usual Loutrons, Fase Dos, etc?
Hope to get some good advice and intel from the brotherhood. HOOAH!Not on point but STAY SAFE. Also the contractor safety office in Balad has a lady from Cartagena working as of last year.
Does anyone have any experience using Spirit Airlines from Fort Lauderdale to Medellin? (spiritair.com) Prices seem to be really low. I'm wondering if there's a catch.
Ps Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this question.I went down on spirit april 22 to the 26th 159.00 total cost round trip. (fll - mde) Make sure you get there early. Lines can get long. Otherwise great flight but no frills.
Does anyone have any experience using Spirit Airlines from Fort Lauderdale to Medellin? (spiritair.com) Prices seem to be really low. I'm wondering if there's a catch.
Ps Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this question.No catch just an economy airline with no frills (or lunch). I fly to Cartagena 4 times a year on Spirit and never had a problem. They are perfect for my needs and the price is right!
Does anyone have any experience using Spirit Airlines from Fort Lauderdale to Medellin? (spiritair.com) Prices seem to be really low. I'm wondering if there's a catch.
Ps Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this question.I just got back from my first trip to Medellin, and am preparing my report. I paid $118 round trip with taxes included. I paid $20 extra both ways to pick my seats. I always pick the seat near the door for the extra leg room. If you are a mongerer, and live near FLL, there is no reason to not join the $9 fair club and register your email.
If you consider this a catch, I pay about $36 a year, and if you sign up for the credit card, it is free. In addition you get credit for purchases. I paid $28 for a round trip ticket to New York to visit my parents next month. However, if you travel a couple times a year, it is well worth the $36.
There is no free soda, snack or movie. I always purchase beverages and snacks on the plane to give them more profit dollars so there are more specials like this.
I personally have never had problems with spirit, and if I did, I would say that I got what I paid for, but have had horror stories about connecting flights and luggage. However I never check in luggage. Another catch is that they charge $20 per bag. But other airlines do this as well. \
I talked to someone at my gym once who works for Spirit. He claims that most of these flights are filled with cargo, and most of the plane is paid for already, and they need tax and fuel money, and its really extra money for them and good marketing. Trust me, these people aren't stupid and I hope there are more deals.
Jodi In Heat
05-13-09, 00:15
If you've RTFF then you should know there is no "u" in Colombia.Mean bastard, LOL
Thanks for the feedback, guys.
Much appreciated.
Paisalov99
05-13-09, 05:09
Thanks for the info Detjunky, I will be there. The Mangos scene is tough to pickup any girls, Oviado is impossible, even in the local clubs colombians dance in groups unlike USA, with dating sites like
You really need time to play the game, you really need a place to just mix and mingle in medlelin for local action. Many colombians are crazy about average looking gringos. Parties are a nice way to meet some cheap pussy. Pics of girls I was luck with in Medellin.
I was at the GringoRon's house party last time, there were some real cute girls, I was able pickup some pussy, they were just drunk and were ok with 100K each, nice BBBJ, doggy, and 3 some, and stayed for many hours.
... Ricker mentioned that he has been comming to La Mayorista for years, which was obvious from the cuties that knew him and some of the "perks" he got! ...
... He took a thin girl which I would rate a "6", and was with her for more than 45 mnts. Without being charged extra for the room! Apparently he is very well known at La Mayorista!Nice to meet Frank and get a tour of his "my Place".
Like I posted before, he seems like a cool dude and his apartment is nice for the price he charges and definitely Mayorista convenient.
Funny Franky you rate my chica a 6 that night.
If she's a 6 to you, the rest of the chicas there must be in the 2-3 range. :)
This is interesting, can I get independent verification from other members that it is standard airport security policy for them to review your FILM (NOT just your camera) on the way out? That seems like an invasion of privacy.
I only been to Medellin once, on the way through the airport, they opened up and looked at my camcorder but certainly didn't scroll through my films (THANK GOD). If this is standard practice then I need to be far more careful than I currently am..
A final thought, it was a damn good thing I didn't get that picture of my tool going in and out, because leaving Medellin, a female (and attractive one) security officer went though every package in my carry on, then opened up my camera, turned it on and started reviewing my pictures. I had only typical tourist pictures, she liked my shots of the metrocable.
Be Safe
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Q to all: Safe sex concerns aside, where and how is the best approach to obtain BBFS?
First, where would you guys say which locations what a monger have the highest probability of obtaining BBFS? Street chicas? Central clubs or casas? Which ones in particular? Mayorista? Etc.
Second, what's the best approach to obtain/extract BBFS from a chica? Just try to slip it in and see if she complains? Negotiate beforehand before we close the deal? Negotiate during the middle when she's hot and horny? Pretend I forgot the condom?
Third, are there any hints or signs or clues to look for to know beforehand if she would be agreeable to BBFS? For example, on my previous trip, the chica asked me beforehand if I liked sex with the condom on, I didn't understand the question then. But looking back, she was obv hinting that BBFS can be available for negotiation. Are there other such signs/clues I can pay attention to, particularly during the initial negotiation phase?
Finally, what's approximate tip range one can expect to dish out (so I can make sure I have at least that much available) for BBFS. 75% of original negotiated price? 100%? Or is it like general accepted standard amount, like 50k or 100k?
Hey guys, quick question. I was in Medellin in April, I didn't do much mongering but I was trying to get the lat of the land. Passed by fase II, parque lleras, maracaibo, and some other places. I went by La mayorista (the market) during the day and was wondering the set up down there. Are the girls in the market area or are the girls close by in another place called la mayorista or what? I will be back in a few months and I want to check it out.
Thanks
Frank Casio
05-14-09, 20:43
Nice to meet Frank and get a tour of his "my Place".
Like I posted before, he seems like a cool dude and his apartment is nice for the price he charges and definitely Mayorista convenient.
Funny Franky you rate my chica a 6 that night.
If she's a 6 to you, the rest of the chicas there must be in the 2-3 range. :)Hi Ricker,
No offense meant, after all, "Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder"! I do "6" cuties all the time! I've only seen one in La Mayorista that I would rate an "8", Geraldine, and she's a Demi Moore look alike, ask Loso69 and Panama Mike! My rating is very strict, I love "6" cuties, to me is a high rating, specially when your paying $12US for them in La Mayorista V. S. $75-$100US in other places! I think "9-10s" you can only find in places like Fase ll, Loutron, maybe Energy and the "new place" just opened near Fase ll, "La Dolce Vita"!
"La Dolce Vita" on Clle. 31 #44-109, Tel. 261-1510, cell. 316-749-4008 offers a host of very high end services, like 50k lap dances for groups of 1 or more, 180k for a "cuties" company for an hour where they drive you to a nice Hotel with the "cutie of your choice, pool tables, 10-15k for your drink, 30k for the "cuties" drink! Great place for "high rollers", don't think us ordinary folks can afford those prices more than maybe 2-3 times a year! If any of you high rollers want me to take you there, well, I hope your pockets are very, very deeeep!
Frank Casio!
Relapse1952
05-14-09, 21:06
Q to all: Safe sex concerns aside, where and how is the best approach to obtain BBFS?
First, where would you guys say which locations what a monger have the highest probability of obtaining BBFS? Street chicas? Central clubs or casas? Which ones in particular? Mayorista? Etc.
Second, what's the best approach to obtain/extract BBFS from a chica? Just try to slip it in and see if she complains? Negotiate beforehand before we close the deal? Negotiate during the middle when she's hot and horny? Pretend I forgot the condom?
Third, are there any hints or signs or clues to look for to know beforehand if she would be agreeable to BBFS? For example, on my previous trip, the chica asked me beforehand if I liked sex with the condom on, I didn't understand the question then. But looking back, she was obv hinting that BBFS can be available for negotiation. Are there other such signs/clues I can pay attention to, particularly during the initial negotiation phase?
Finally, what's approximate tip range one can expect to dish out (so I can make sure I have at least that much available) for BBFS. 75% of original negotiated price? 100%? Or is it like general accepted standard amount, like 50k or 100k?
Just ask!
Relapse
Hi Ricker,
No offense meant, after all, "Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder"! I do "6" cuties all the time! I've only seen one in La Mayorista that I would rate an "8", Geraldine, and she's a Demi Moore look alike, ask Loso69 and Panama Mike! My rating is very strict, I love "6" cuties, to me is a high rating, specially when your paying $12US for them in La Mayorista V. S. $75-$100US in other places! I think "9-10s" you can only find in places like Fase ll, Loutron, maybe Energy and the "new place" just opened near Fase ll, "La Dolce Vita"!
"La Dolce Vita" on Clle. 31 #44-109, Tel. 261-1510, cell. 316-749-4008 offers a host of very high end services, like 50k lap dances for groups of 1 or more, 180k for a "cuties" company for an hour where they drive you to a nice Hotel with the "cutie of your choice, pool tables, 10-15k for your drink, 30k for the "cuties" drink! Great place for "high rollers", don't think us ordinary folks can afford those prices more than maybe 2-3 times a year! If any of you high rollers want me to take you there, well, I hope your pockets are very, very deeeep!
Frank Casio! I was just kidding mi amigo Frank, no big deal.
Like you say, to each his own.
As a matter of fact, the chica you rate as an 8, Geraldine, though I 've chatted with her quite a bit, translated for her with other gringos, bought her dinner, rum, etc, I've never gone for fun with her myself.
Yes, she's cute and does have the Demi Moore look, she's my friend, but I just don't feel the right chemestry with her as a lover.
Funny thing, the chica you saw me go back with was absolutely fantastic. Pretty much offered me anything I wanted and we never talked money, a full GFE. The funny part was, when we finished up, after about 45 minutes, she had forgotten about the money.
I asked her. "olvidaste una cosa princesa? " (did you forget something), she looked puzzled and then I reminded her of the money, we laughed and I gave her some cash.
Amazingly, after I left her and hooked up with you guys again, she came to me smiling and handed me my watch that I left in the room. Pretty cool.
As you know those Mayorista chicas can be cold and mechanical, but if you can gain a bit of trust in them, they'll too go the extra mile with ya.
One gringo I met out there, won't mention his name, resorted to insulting the chicas if they turned down his different requests.
He told me that if a chica denies his requests, he likes to insult them.
Of course he was quickly getting a bad name on the street for that. We (other gringo and I) discussed his technique and how bozo it was, he wisened up and afterwards he tagged along with me a bit, riding on my good carma with the chicas.
Take care amigo, nice meeting you.
By the way, as we were naming the different chicas with nicknames, like Demi Moore, Geisha girl, Meg Ryan, etc. We named you Barretta after the TV detective from the past. There's a resemblance there and it's a cool name
Ate mais!
Professor 1
05-15-09, 02:18
This is interesting, can I get independent verification from other members that it is standard airport security policy for them to review your FILM (NOT just your camera) on the way out? That seems like an invasion of privacy.
I only been to Medellin once, on the way through the airport, they opened up and looked at my camcorder but certainly didn't scroll through my films (THANK GOD). If this is standard practice then I need to be far more careful than I currently am..I hate to be the one to tell you, but you may have your films viewed upon a return to the USA If singled-out for an inspection. I had 800 tourist pictures and the like returning from Spain, and offered to order the pizza. After the first 120 pictures of churches, I was told that I could go. HA.
Q to all: Safe sex concerns aside, where and how is the best approach to obtain BBFS?
First, where would you guys say which locations what a monger have the highest probability of obtaining BBFS? Street chicas? Central clubs or casas? Which ones in particular? Mayorista? Etc.
Second, what's the best approach to obtain/extract BBFS from a chica? Just try to slip it in and see if she complains? Negotiate beforehand before we close the deal? Negotiate during the middle when she's hot and horny? Pretend I forgot the condom?
Third, are there any hints or signs or clues to look for to know beforehand if she would be agreeable to BBFS? For example, on my previous trip, the chica asked me beforehand if I liked sex with the condom on, I didn't understand the question then. But looking back, she was obv hinting that BBFS can be available for negotiation. Are there other such signs/clues I can pay attention to, particularly during the initial negotiation phase?
Finally, what's approximate tip range one can expect to dish out (so I can make sure I have at least that much available) for BBFS. 75% of original negotiated price? 100%? Or is it like general accepted standard amount, like 50k or 100k? First, pay the $20 or whatever to become a member of ISG if you haven't already. Then you should be able to do a search. Search on Username "Col Bog 1". You might also include the keyword "condom" in the same search.
Col Bog used to be the most prolific report writer here. He started out in Colombia using condoms. Then for a while he'd only do women who would agree to BBFS ahead of time. Here's an example:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=623012&highlight=condom#post623012
He got frustrated being rejected all the time and finally went back to choosing women without asking them up front about BBFS. He tried every trick in the book to get BBFS and BBBJ and gives stroke by stroke and blow by blow descriptions.
Anyway, you're a braver man than I. Any time I've gone a few months without condoms I've ended up with STD's. So I don't anymore.
Frank Casio
05-15-09, 18:47
One gringo I met out there, won't mention his name, resorted to insulting the chicas if they turned down his different requests.
He told me that if a chica denies his requests, he likes to insult them.
By the way, as we were naming the different chicas with nicknames, like Demi Moore, Geisha girl, Meg Ryan, etc. We named you Barretta after the TV detective from the past. There's a resemblance there and it's a cool name
Ate mais![/QUOTE]Hi guys,
I'm troubled about the attitude of some "gringos" or "foreigners" against the chicas! I've always talked good about the Colombian or "Paisa" temper as gentle and non-violent! But let's not forget that once upon a time when "Escobar" was around they were a very violent lot! The "Paisa" has a "group" mentality and can change in a dime!
You definitely don't want to be caught abusing their women or any of their own, they don't fight one on one, they fight in groups! They might seem very quiet, but if you provoke them it can get ugly real quick! And it doesn't matter how big you are or how strong, because they will compensate with numbers or weopons!
So far I have defended all "foreigners" everywhere, and practically act as a bodyguard or protector, but if "foreigners" start getting a reputation of violence against women or the Working girls, then I will "check out" and blend into the local population, because the consequences can be deadly and I happen to live here!
So guys, we know that most of these girls have "shity" personalities, but what do you expect, they're "*****s" not "nuns"! Just enjoy what you can and realize that sometimes you will have a great experience, while many other times you'll want to throw the "*****" out! Just keep your cool and realize it's only a "few bucks" and can be overcome, but loosing your live can't!
Thanks Ricker, Baretta used to be one of my favorite shows until I heard he might have killed his wife!
Geraldine is mad at me because I had been with her once and I couldn't remember! It wasn't until Panama Mike told me that she would'nt take off her boots that it all came back to me! Then I remembered that I even wrote a post about our encounter and called her "angel face"! She even sang a whole "Mariachi" for me with a band and all! And she did take of her boots for me! She has the cutest little "pale white" feet I have ever seen! She's a doll, but I lost her when I forgot our encounter!
Frank Casio!
Yankee 617
05-15-09, 22:38
This is interesting, can I get independent verification from other members that it is standard airport security policy for them to review your FILM (NOT just your camera) on the way out? That seems like an invasion of privacy.
I only been to Medellin once, on the way through the airport, they opened up and looked at my camcorder but certainly didn't scroll through my films (THANK GOD). If this is standard practice then I need to be far more careful than I currently am..Post #3417 dated 8/01/08 from The Morality Of Prostitution thread might help.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=772096&postcount=3417
I hate to be the one to tell you, but you may have your films viewed upon a return to the USA If singled-out for an inspection. I had 800 tourist pictures and the like returning from Spain, and offered to order the pizza. After the first 120 pictures of churches, I was told that I could go. HA.This is informative, I'll try to take more precautionary measures. One good suggestion I heard is take the battery out of the camera and hide it in your checked baggage and claim the battery is lost/stolen, and thus you cannot power up your camera.
Though the best solution for me I suppose is to backup all my vids/photos to my laptop, back in the days of mini-dvs you can just keep the dv tapes separate. Now with those HDD drive camera the procedure is much more painful.
Thanks to all for the answers provided to my questions so far, here's another: should I at all times ask to see IDs from girls I pick up from Central/S.D/Mayorista? That seems like a lot of trouble.
What type of trouble can one get into if they accidentally get caught w/ a chica w/ fake ID and did not know?
Do those cops that stand outside of Mayorista areas etc watch gringos go by and harrass them if they think the girl looks young?
Socrates69
05-16-09, 06:51
Finally, what's approximate tip range one can expect to dish out (so I can make sure I have at least that much available) for BBFS. 75% of original negotiated price? 100%? Or is it like general accepted standard amount, like 50k or 100k?Don't tip them extra for it otherwise everything will be itemized like in Tijuana where $5 extra to take of a bra, etc. Etc.
You just have to play it by ear as all women are different. Knowing some spanish and having a rapport with the chicas will certainly help. Also, choose the girl wisely, namely the ones that seem interested in you vs repulsed or indifferent.
Frank Casio
05-16-09, 13:59
Hi guys,
Yes, there was a shooting in La Mayorista last night around 9PM! It seems that the local "collector" pushed somebody too far! I knew this guy from being around for the last 1. 5 years, didn't know him personally, but knew who he was. He and another big guy would collect protection fees from the small businesses, and what rubbed me the wrong way was that they collected from the street cigarrette venders and Shoe shine guys!
The big boy dissappeared about 3 months ago, I stopped seeing him around. Then I saw this poor wimpy looking fool by himself! About a week ago, instinct alone told me something wasn't right! The poor guy didn't seem right being a "collector" by himself! Last I heard he had kicked and beaten up some poor shoe shine old man for not paying him the $3, 000cop ($1. 50US) protection fee! I guess that didn't go over too well with somebody, and today he lies dead!
I went by La Mayorista this morning around 6:30AM and it was "humming and bussing"! I guess since the girls couldn't work last night do to the the street being closed, they probably tried to make up for lost time in the early hours! Hundreds of people were comming and going to work. Everything back to normal, one less "thug" on the street!
Frank Casio!
Thanks to all for the answers provided to my questions so far, here's another: should I at all times ask to see IDs from girls I pick up from Central/S.D/Mayorista? That seems like a lot of trouble.
What type of trouble can one get into if they accidentally get caught w/ a chica w/ fake ID and did not know?
Do those cops that stand outside of Mayorista areas etc watch gringos go by and harrass them if they think the girl looks young?If you are lucky you will see 1 other gringo in Mayorista at night besides whomever you came with.
John Gault
05-16-09, 14:47
thanks to all for the answers provided to my questions so far, here's another: should i at all times ask to see ids from girls i pick up from central/s.d/mayorista? that seems like a lot of trouble.
what type of trouble can one get into if they accidentally get caught w/ a chica w/ fake id and did not know?
do those cops that stand outside of mayorista areas etc watch gringos go by and harrass them if they think the girl looks young?first check id's. that is a must. no id no deal.
as far as getting caught with an **** girl who gives you a fake id, i don't know what would happen ,but for sure the worst thing in colombia is to face charges for being with an **** girl. i guess the best thing if in that situation would be to have enough pesos to bribe you way out of that mess.
last time i was at mayorista i had a hot 16 year old sitting at my table and i was so uncomfortable with her just being there that i gave her 10k and then took off in a taxi for a strip club in el centro.
This is informative, I'll try to take more precautionary measures. One good suggestion I heard is take the battery out of the camera and hide it in your checked baggage and claim the battery is lost/stolen, and thus you cannot power up your camera.
Though the best solution for me I suppose is to backup all my vids/photos to my laptop, back in the days of mini-dvs you can just keep the dv tapes separate. Now with those HDD drive camera the procedure is much more painful.For other strategies, see these from another thread:
I noticed in another thread a discussion about people concerned with having their computer searched going through the airport. Basically, how to hide any photos you would prefer for them not to see.
On a Mac, you can use disk utility to create an image file (.dmg ) and password protect it. Copy your pictures into there. Delete originals. You can also rename the .dmg file and give it a different extension, and throw it in a system related folder, such as User Account Folder > Library > Preferences.
On the PC, you can do the same basic thing by creating a password protected compressed archive using WinZip. You can hide it using the same method described above.
I just save my pics to a SD card and put the card in my back pocket,no problems. Also, if my camera or laptop get stolen somehow I will still have my pictures.
Frank Casio
05-17-09, 20:18
Hi guys,
Thursday, 07 May 2009, met with Panama Mike and his friends at "3 Cordilleras" Brewery right down the street from Fase ll, Premium Plaza and San Diego! It was a smaller crowd than the week before, but I still managed to pick up a couple phone numbers from some real cuties, which I will probably never have time to follow up on! Oh gosh, so many "hotties" so little time. ! They started kicking us out a little after 8:30 P. M. , could only drink 3 of the 5 beers allowed for 15k! Must get there early, 5:30-6:00PM to enjoy all your beers! It was fun, then we were off, first to Panama Mike's apartment near Estadio and then to Babylon!
I brought a "cutie" with me, Sara, which works sometimes at Casa los Angeles on Clle. 33, and ask two other girls that were sitting at the bar to join us! So it was 5 guys and 3 girls at the table! We danced took pictures, it was fun! On my smoking breaks outside I always try to talk to the girls and pick up phone numbers! On an aside, last night, Ana, whose number I got on one of those smoking breaks invited me to come with her to San Blas Disco! Going back to Babylon, My friend Sara whose a Lesbian and who I have been be-friending for the purpose of trios and foursomes with some of her friends didn't come through when I thought she would!
While outside on a smoking break we met some girls that appear to be flirting with her, they immediately started talking sexual and about going to the bathroom and kissing one of the girls who was supposed to be a newby at this! While this conversation was going on I was totally ignored! Funny How if you're gay or lesbian you can immediately start talking about sex without it being disrespectfull, but if you're just a straight normal kind of guy, well you'are a pervert if you dare talk about sex immediately after meeting a girl, thast's life! Within a few minutes the 3 girls went to the "ladies" bathroom and when my friend Sara came back she rubbed her hand on my nose so I could smell the odor in her fingers from the "pussy" she just had! The other girls went by and totally ignored me, so much for dating a lesbian to get to other girls!
I already knew this from previous experiences with lesbians, they are a very exclusve Club, but I thought I would give it another try, specially since I explained to Sara that that's why I was taking her out! Since she did nothing to include me in on the conversation we had outside with the girls, and followed it by going to the bathroom with the girls, I told Sara " Hasta La vista Baby "! I don't cook a meal for somebody else to eat, and not participate! Some of these women think that all men are stupid and that we are just going to take them out, pay for everything and they can pretty much do whatever they want while we "bask in their beauty". Well, with me they soon find out, ussually after the second date, that if there is no affection for my "caged birdy", my "zippered friend" they will soon here "Hasta la Vista Baby"! Only Cindy and kelly survived over a year without hearing those words, but then, they were very special and helped me in other ways! And Cindy finally came through, and was worth the wait!
After Babylon I took the guys to an after hours place called El Deportista, near where all the Casas in El Centro are, the San Juan/San Antonio area! I saw a cutie right away, fell in love, and had my heart broken all within an hour! She was beautiful, a very dark skin girl but with caucasian feautures, the best of both Worlds, and a smoking hot body wrapped in a soft silk mini dress! She had smoke comming out of my ears! She was really GFE at first, we danced, kissed, etc. But I guess she saw me too eager and concluded she had me in the bag, big mistake! She started getting the wondering eye syndrome after we had agreed on being together, cardinal sin for me! I went to the bathroom and when I came back she was sitting on some Colombian guy's lap and dancing Reggetton with him! After about ten minutes she came back and said they were just friends she went to say high to. I told her it looked a lot more than a "salute" to me, so it was "Hasta la vista Baby", no $$ from them and nothing from me, which would have been a sure thing!
A few minutes later she was standing talking to this real cute petite girl with hot smoking legs wearing hot pants! I immediately went over and started talking to the girl, rubbing her legs, she was very nice, didn't object to what I was doing, managed to get my "motors running again" and of we went for 50k to a very successful coupling! She was so tiny and hot, small breast but beautifully shaped legs and smoking hot little ass! Once I opened those shapely legs and got my "birdy" in there he felt really warmed and appreciated in there, a little squeezed (tight), but that made it all the better for him! It was a great night for me! As always, in Medellin Paradise what may start as an off night, can turn in a dime and become a "great experience"! But you got's to know where to go to change things around, and be flexible!
Meanwhile my friends were partying and carrying on with their own "cuties", but that's their story! All I can say is that one of them stayed behind with "2" cuties who were kissing him the entire time, and Panama Mike's other friend took his "cutie" home! All in all, it turned out to be a great night!
Frank Casio!
Yankee 617
05-18-09, 03:25
I'm not big on taking photos, so "smuggling" them back to the USA isn't a personal concern for me.
However, since US customs can take your equipment and keep/search it for weeks or months, there does not seem to be ANY safe means of physically carrying your photos home.
Instead, I would think it better to upload your photos to a personal web-based storage location, delete them all from your equipment before returning to the US, and then download them after you get home. Naturally, it would also be good to place them in an encrypted disk image before uploading them.
On a Mac, this might take the form of an encrypted .dmg file uploaded to your personal iDisk under a MobileMe account. But the more technically astute here may have some better ideas.
Another alternative might be to simply email or ftp them to yourself or a trusted friend. But take care that you don't run into technical problems with file size limits and the like.
JazzPlayer
05-19-09, 01:41
Hi guys,
Meanwhile my friends were partying and carrying on with their own "cuties", but that's their story! All I can say is that one of them stayed behind with "2" cuties who were kissing him the entire time, and Panama Mike's other friend took his "cutie" home! All in all, it turned out to be a great night!
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Frank Casio
05-19-09, 01:59
Hi guys,
Here they are, "first pics. ever of La Mayorista" Part ll, compliments of My Place, ! Comming Soon, Pics. of La Mayorista "cuties" !
Frank Casio !
Hi guys,
Meanwhile my friends were partying and carrying on with their own "cuties", but that's their story! All I can say is that one of them stayed behind with "2" cuties who were kissing him the entire time, and Panama Mike's other friend took his "cutie" home! All in all, it turned out to be a great night!
Frank Casio!Frank,
Thanks for your updates, I for one enjoy reading your posts, I may be in Medellin in June staying at the Mansion, but would be interested to hang with you just for the experience!
Anyways, keep the reports, they are fantastic!
Frank Casio
05-19-09, 19:11
Hi guys,
Here they are, "first pics. ever of La Mayorista" Part l, compliments of My Place !
Frank Casio !
Frank Casio
05-20-09, 00:28
Hi guys,
13 May 2009, met with Loso69, Panama Mike and the gang at "Maracaibo Striptease Club" in El Centro, up the street from Parque Berrios! It was Loso69's last night in Medellin Paradise! The line up of dancers was really nice, no pushy waiters, no pushy "cuties", very relaxed atmosphere. We were all happy watching these line up of "cuties" expose their curveous hips, bottoms, boobs and "clit" for our pleasure! So many gorgeous women to see in this Medellin Paradise, endless parade, never ceases to amaze me!
We were planning on going to an after hours, El Deportista, but we soon found out that the girls from "Barra Ejecutivo" and "Maracaibo" were having a soccer game at 2:00AM not too far away! They invited us to come! Woooow, here we are, 4 gringos in the middle of who knows where, surrounded by a bunch of hot little "working girls" playing soccer! I tried to flirt with the 2 cuties next to me, but these girls were really into the game, I guess they wanted to forget about work for a while. We bought them some rum and the bottle was passed around! This was a once in a life time experience! I've seen girl's soccer games before, but an all "hooker" soccer game, never!
It was fun, but these girls didn't want the kind of action I wanted. We said our good byes and Loso69 and myself headed for La Mayorista, the other guys where tired and went home! It was kind of late, 3:30AM, but you could still find a couple "cuties" there! Milena came running up to me and hugged me and started saying I was her boyfriend! I agreed to go up with her for $40k for an hour, Loso69 found his own "cutie" and took her home! I took Milena up to My Place and, smoked a ciggarrette, listen to music and then "tried" to do our business!
I still don't know what happenned to her, I think she was high, she became really "matter of fact", killed my "libido" and worst of all, didn't give a Damn! I was in shock, I had been with her so many times, I've known her for so long, what a dissappointment! She pissed me off! I told her she would stay there the whole time we agreed or give me a refund. Luckily I didn't have change so we changed our agreement to 45 mints. For 30k! Do you guys realize how many clients I have gotten this girl, she said she didn't care that she was doing well! She must be very stupid, or must have been on "something", most likely.
Oh well, she will no longer be sitting with me and my guests for drinks, I will no longer be giving her money (gifts) or food every time I see her, she will no longer be in my reccommendation list. , what a fool! She ruined my night. That's what happens here sometimes, you can't always get it right, but when you do, it's worth the "ride"! On my way home I ran into gorgeous, angel face "Geraldine", she was willing to come home with me, but unfortunately I was so tired and pissed by then I just wanted to go home, and said no! Oh well, can't win them all!
Frank Casio!
Floyd Dylan
05-20-09, 02:41
hi guys, after spending the first couple of weeks of may in medellin and following all the tips and advice on this forum, here are my experiences:
[the addresses for all these are listed in the medellín lists forum.. many thanks to the author of that list, it's invaluable!]
energy (across from the stadium): went on a tuesday evening about 7pm. nice house, clean, pretty decor. the line-up was great. there were maybe 8 girls, all natural babes, mostly 8's, some 7's. i went with melissa, she had a genuine smile and great body. we go into the room, undress, i lay on the mattress on the floor, and she proceeds to give me a half-decent massage. she flips me over to continue, and gives my balls an erotic massage too. she starts to reach for a condom to give me a bj, and i ask if she couldn't give me one sin condom? she hedges, i'm trying to convince, and say i'll give you extra $. she asks how much extra? i say.. 20k extra. make it 30k and i'm sold, she says. little head says ok. [in hindsight, i should have started lower, so it ended up at 15 or 20.] after all that, the bbbj was not very good. so i stopped her after a bit to continue to the main event. mish was ok, but she kept resisting, saying i was too big. i flipped her over, and she rose the front of her torso up (not sure the name of that position!) and basically danced on my cock until i came. nice.
although the sex wasn't that amazing, she was a sweet girl, really friendly and chatty, pretty, comfortable, easy going, i had fun.
tried hitting some strip clubs in el centro on a sunday evening:
conejitas: ok, not great, the girls were in the 5, 6, 7 range.
club maracaibo: ok, slightly better - 6's and 7's.
none of the girls turned my fancy, so can't report on any action at either place.
note that the address listed for maracaibo and las americas are slightly wrong - they're both further west down the block than the list says.
on a wednesday evening, tried hitting some strip clubs in a different part of town:
apoteosis: ok, not great, 5's, 6's, 7's. chunky girls. no cover, contrary to the list.
licores y compania does not exist - i looked on all the blocks surrounding the address listed in the forum.
thursday night, i tried some other strip clubs:
encuentros: ok, not great, again 5's, 6's, 7's. this club was at least busier than any of the above which were totally dead (admitedly, it wasn't the weekend). but despite being busy, nobody was stripping or pole dancing. there were couples dancing salsa, however, more like you'd find in a regular neighborhood bar (albeit more risqué). beers (for me) were 5k. didn't go with any girls.
the two other strip clubs listed as being in this neighborhood, catanga disco club and rincon leo, do not exist, at least not anywhere near the addresses listed.
luna lunera enlacex club: funny story about this place. i checked out their web site and saw that they were having a "live sex show party" coming up in a couple of nights. there was an elaborate page all about this on their web site, encouraging guys to buy tickets early, etc. so one day in the afternoon i head over to buy a ticket for this extravaganza. despite the place being listed as open 24/7, it was locked up tight, no sign of life. eventually someone peeks through the hatch but won't even open the door - she directs me to the ejecutivo hotel next door (attached to the club, perhaps owned by the same people?) so i go over there, and they don't know anything about this party i read about. i'm sure i got the date right, it was meant to be on 30 april. odd i thought, but i'll come back at night just to see if it's happening anyway, and if it's not, at least sample some of the goodies everyone on the board raves about. so i return at midnight, and it looks like a nice place inside, cute girls, 7's and 8's, i sit down, the waiter comes over, i try to order a beer, and he tells me not only don't they serve beer, but the minimum order is $50,000! i clarify with him - just tonight, or always? always, he tells me. jeez, that's too much just to ogle some flesh and see if anything looks tempting. so i split.
after all this research in the field, i'm desperately in need of a massage. so i dutifully check out the massage places listed in the forum:
masajes japones: this one is in a sort-of "medical mall", alongside other medical-related businesses. the massage was ok, not bad, not amazing. the room was a bit dumpy. i'm not sure how much professional training she had, if any. she didn't offer or hint at a happy ending, so i didn't ask. the price was 40k for an hour. there's nothing japanese about this place, by the way.
massajes jihn sin do: this one is in the monterey shopping mall, which has every kind of accessory for computers, phones, ipods, etc. it's just one block from the poblado metro station, or about a 20 minute walk from parque lleras (which is the heart of el poblado). note that there are two salons in this mall that offer massage - this one is on the first floor, while the other is on the second floor. didn't try that one. this one is nice, cramped room, but better decor than the "japones" place.
i went here twice. the first time was fantastic - the massage was powerful, deep, very well done. at the end, she brushed my dick and asked quietly if i would like..? nodding my assent, she proceeded to give me a very nice hand job. i would argue that a good hand job (with plenty of lube, two hands, etc) can be better than a bad blow job. the price was 40k for one hour, and i gave her a 8k tip which she seemed fine with.
now here's the rub (no pun intended).. i went back here two weeks later, got the same woman (sorry, can't remember her name, she was maybe 40yo, not that hot), and this time i was disappointed. the massage was pretty good, but not as good as last time, and it felt rushed. as soon as she turned me over, instead of continuing the massage, she immediately went for the hj. i tipped her the same amount as before (20%, pretty good for colombia, i thought), and she had the gall to ask for more! i declined. it wasn't until i was walking away from the place and looked at my watch that i realized the whole thing had been no more than 30 minutes - no wonder it felt rushed, it was! i had paid for an hour but only received half of that.
so i hesitate whether to recommend this place, since i had such mixed experiences there.
ok, i thought, it's time to find some upscale stripclubs, damn the tor****es:
i went to fase ii, i think it was a friday night.. definitely a step up from the other strip clubs i'd been to. higher prices, too - 10k cover, 16k for a can of beer! it's a great atmosphere, very lively, nice decor, lighting, etc. tons of people, good ratio of girls to guys. lots of women sitting around not in stripper attire. i guess they come just to work the crowd, separate from the strippers employed to dance. speaking of, there was one amazing dancer that brought applause, something rarely done in latin american strip clubs. other dancers were ok, and there was one cute duo. the girls in the club were 8's on average with the occassional 9. i met one cute blond who works at elements spa (hotel el continental) during the days, then comes here to work the nights. she was super friendly, but for some reason just didn't turn my motor. maybe because i was thinking of the price, lol! a middle-aged woman (mamasan-type) came walking through the crowd handing out very fancy business cards for elements, it had fase ii's logo on the back along with some other places. maybe they're all owned by the same people. funny aside - usually on those business cards they say things in code, but this one listed as one of the services they offer "masaje penetración"!
next i headed up the street to san diego grill. i walked in and noticed it's definitely more downscale than fase ii, but not as dumpy as some of the el centro strip clubs. however i didn't stay long, because the waiter told me it was a minimum order of 30,000 (which buys 3 beers). huh. now i don't mind spending money on a beautiful girl, but that just seems like a rip-off to sit and have a couple of drinks at a not particularly amazing strip club.
there was a whole scene going on outside. some street girls in the surrounding blocks (although not much, since it was a cold rainy night), but fun to hang out with the grill guys and taxi drivers huddled around. the cops across the street were randomly pulling people over and searching them, testing for alcohol, etc.
i wanted to check out the laureles neighborhood, since frank and others write so glowingly about it. but i couldn't find it listed on any map, and the only reference i found to it in the forum said calle 70, but i don't think that makes sense. is it carrera 70? if so, where exactly?
also, frank, where is your casa (my place)? you said where your new one (my place two) is, but for those of us who might be interested in booking with you, it would be cool to know what 'hood my place is in.
ok, back to my tour - next i checked out la mayorista. for those who haven't been there, here is a bit more info than you'll find in the forum:
it's about 5 blocks west of the ayurá metro station. i'm not sure why the list says "no more eating and drinking in the streets" - that was all definitely going on. the action area is only about two or three blocks long - a strip of tiny bars, cafes, and cheap hotels all packed together, with hookers hanging out and walking up and down. no hiding it, it's all out in the open. fun to grab a beer and just watch the humanity. i would say most of them are ugly, fat, and/or old, but there are definitely some gems in there. didn't end up finding any that i particularly fancied, so can't report on that.
just to add fuel to the fire (see previous posts relating to relative safety of this area) - i felt safe in this whole area. the "action" blocks have cops hanging out at either end, and it's just regular working-class people - i didn't feel any sketchiness. the blocks behind (south) of the action block looks to be middle-class residential, with some actually nice looking hotels. the blocks to the north are industrial, but still didn't feel dangerous the way el centro does at night.
whew.. stick with me, i'm almost finished!
later in the week (i've lost track of what day of the week this was), i decided to try another one of the recommended casas:
new life: the list implies that it's on a corner ("enter on..."), but it's actually in the middle of the block. the address listed is correct. i was hoping angie would be working, since there were great reports of her. no such luck. the girls paraded out, maybe 6 of them, all 6's and 7's. all lifeless, apathetic. in my experience, the energy they put out during that introduction is the key - i'll go with a girl even if she's not a stunner, as long as she has good energy - this usually translates to being energetic in the room. alas, none of these girls did, so i left. the other weird thing about this place is that there was a group of maybe 8 older men sitting in the front room, just hanging out. made for a weird feeling.
so although it was a bit pricey for me and a bit early in the evening (9:30p), i decided to head over to lindas chicas. took a while for nancy to come to the door, it looked like everyone was just waking up. the house is beautiful, although a bit played (seen better days). it's like a leftover set from caligula or something. there is an enormous jacuzzi in one of the living rooms, big enough for 20 people, unfortunately it had no water and isn't used! what a shame, wouldn't that be a ton of fun. lots of erotic art and gaudi sculptures around, perfect for a bordello. anyway, only three girls were actually there at that time. the first one to present herself was cindi - not a stunner, more like a girl-next-door type. she sat and chatted with me while the other girls "made themselves presentable" (read: woke up from their nap, got changed, into makeup, etc.) the other two were 7's to 8's, not fat, a nice change from so much you see around town. i ended up going with cindi, since by this point we had a good raport. so we go up to the room.. it's huge, with an elegant elevated bed, but again, a bit long in the tooth - the lights didn't work, the shower didn't have hot water, etc.
i had confirmed with cindi downstairs the prices - i asked if it was indeed 100k for 1.5 hours (as listed in the list), and she corrected me - said it was 100k for 1 hour. ok, i'm still ok with that. but when we got up to the room, she said that price was just for her - the casa was on top of that! so i gave her 100k. maybe i could have negotiated, but i didn't try. plus i feel like that always endangers having a good session. nancy ended up charging me 85k for the room and 1 drink for the girl.
cindi was cute and totally gfe, which was fun, although generally when p4p i usually prefer pse. she seemed so innocent i was a little unsure of how to start.. so she started by dfk me! wow, that's a nice change from so many working girls! i love good deep kissing, it really sets the mood. we slowly peel each other's clothes off (she's wearing those ridiculous body-hugging undergarments that are supposed to suck in your fat and boost your boobs.. tried to hide them from me, but i saw. fortunately, it turned out she didn't need all that stuff - she had a great body - not super thin, but not fat either).
i set the tone by daty, she's pretty slow to respond, very quiet, but eventually gets into it and has a quiet little come. then i'm thinking how to talk her into a bbbj, when she sits up all of a sudden and just starts going down on me, sans condom. yes! it was a lovely bj, boy was i happy. i hadn't had a good bj in sooooo long. i was actually going to write the list asking if you all knew where i could get a good bbbj, i would pay dearly for just that! my only complaint was that she didn't go very deep. a good deep throat i would still pay dearly for. but she did suck and lick my balls, lots of spit, fast in and out.
after a little while we're both ready for the main event, and she asks if i have a condom. umm... no, don't you?? isn't this a *****house, which always have condoms?? she's looking around the room, opening cupboards, and i'm trying desperately to think with the correct head. alas, the smaller head wins out, and i say, "you know, cindi, i don't have any diseases, and if you don't...." ok, she says, but that will be 50k extra. fine, i say. i really don't think this was a scam from the beginning or that she does this with everyone (at least i pray not!).. either that or she's a really good actor. but she seems genuine, and i can usually read people pretty well.
so she lays down and i start to enter her, sans condom. jeeeeeezus christ, she's tight. unbelievably, super hot, so sexy, i have to hold back with everything i've got tight. wow, it was amazing. it takes me a while to work it into her, and i have to go slow the entire time to keep from blowing my load prematurely. she's giggling at my incoherent babbling brought on my her incredible pussy. we flip and change into a few different positions. at one point she gets a bit bored and reminds me that this is only for an hour! then she has to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). huh. but she was a good little girl, came right back and started sucking me off - not a lot of girls will take it straight from their **** to their mouth - hot! i mount her again for the last round, she warns me not to come inside her, so i withdraw and come up on the bed to stick it in her mouth. she takes it like a champ.. i cum.. she spits, unfortunately (never sexy, and it always interrupts the orgasm), but maintained a great attitude throughout. this was definitely the best sex i've had in a while. although now i'm all guilty and freaking out about disease(s). gotta go read the safe sex forum. anyway, total cost: 100k + 50k for cindi plus 85k to the casa = 235k. ouch. definitely more than i wanted to spend (for only an hour), but all in all it was a great experience.
as i was leaving i noticed a lot more girls had arrived and were hanging out downstairs - there were maybe 6 or 7 of them, and they were all 8's, maybe even 9's. made my heart, err, i mean, cock flutter with the possibilities.
by the way, i dispute the common assertion that medellín has the most beautiful women in colombia. i'm not saying another city is better, just that in my opinion they're neither more nor less beautiful here than elsewhere in the country.
now i do agree that colombia has gorgeous babes - but many of them are working outside the country - i saw more stunning colombians in the strip clubs in panama city than i have in any colombian city, lol.
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Hi guys,
13 May 2009, met with Loso69, Panama Mike and the gang at "Maracaibo Striptease Club" in El Centro, up the street from Parque Berrios! It was Loso69's last night in Medellin Paradise! The line up of dancers was really nice, no pushy waiters, no pushy "cuties", very relaxed atmosphere. We were all happy watching these line up of "cuties" expose their curveous hips, bottoms, boobs and "clit" for our pleasure! So many gorgeous women to see in this Medellin Paradise, endless parade, never ceases to amaze me!
We were planning on going to an after hours, El Deportista, but we soon found out that the girls from "Barra Ejecutivo" and "Maracaibo" were having a soccer game at 2:00AM not too far away! They invited us to come! Woooow, here we are, 4 gringos in the middle of who knows where, surrounded by a bunch of hot little "working girls" playing soccer! I tried to flirt with the 2 cuties next to me, but these girls were really into the game, I guess they wanted to forget about work for a while. We bought them some rum and the bottle was passed around! This was a once in a life time experience! I've seen girl's soccer games before, but an all "hooker" soccer game, never!
It was fun, but these girls didn't want the kind of action I wanted. We said our good byes and Loso69 and myself headed for La Mayorista, the other guys where tired and went home! It was kind of late, 3:30AM, but you could still find a couple "curies" there! Milena came running up to me and hugged me and started saying I was her boyfriend! I agreed to go up with her for $40k for an hour, Loso69 found his own "cutie" and took her home! I took Milena up to My Place and, smoked a ciggarrette, listen to music and then "tried" to do our business!
I still don't know what happenned to her, I think she was high, she became really "matter of fact", killed my "libido" and worst of all, didn't give a Damn! I was in shock, I had been with her so many times, I've known her for so long, what a dissappointment! She pissed me off! I told her she would stay there the whole time we agreed or give me a refund. Luckily I didn't have change so we changed our agreement to 45 mints. For 30k! Do you guys realize how many clients I have gotten this girl, she said she didn't care that she was doing well! She must be very stupid, or must have been on "something", most likely.
Oh well, she will no longer be sitting with me and my guests for drinks, I will no longer be giving her money (gifts) or food every time I see her, she will no longer be in my reccommendation list. , what a fool! She ruined my night. That's what happens here sometimes, you can't always get it right, but when you do, it's worth the "ride"! On my way home I ran into gorgeous, angel face "Geraldine", she was willing to come home with me, but unfortunately I was so tired and pissed by then I just wanted to go home, and said no! Oh well, can't win them all!
Frank Casio!Frank,
Hey, long time, no talk. I think I was the first (or one of the first) to stay at "My Place. " Remember we hit like 10 of the Centro Casas in like 1/2 a day? ! Anyway, I had a really great time with and hope to buy you a few beers on my next trip, which will be June 15-18th. Although I'll be staying in an apartment this time, I hope you'll be around to hang out. Good luck with the business; I'll email you soon!
Rodeo
Does anyone have any recommendations/advice on hotels in Downtown Medellin? I currently have an apartment lined up in el Poblado, but, I'd like to be closer to the action and be within relative walking distance of the action at all times of day and night! Yes, I did already see "the list, " I just would like some personal recommendations based on experience. Looking for a decent hotel (think Marriott/Howard Johnson's quality) with no frills necessarily, but good security and no hassle about chicas. Wireless internet would be a plus!
Thanks,
Rodeo
Frank Casio
05-20-09, 23:21
Hi guys, after spending the first couple of weeks of May in Medellin and following all the tips and advice on this forum, here are my experiences:
Also, Frank, where is your casa (My Place)? You said where your new one (My Place Two) is, but for those of us who might be interested in booking with you, it would be cool to know what 'hood My Place is in.
OK, back to my tour. Next I checked out La Mayorista. For those who haven't been there, here is a bit more info than you'll find in the forum:
It's about 5 blocks west of the Ayurá metro station. I'm not sure why the list says "no more eating and drinking in the streets". That was all definitely going on. The action area is only about two or three blocks long. A strip of tiny bars, cafes, and cheap hotels all packed together, with hookers hanging out and walking up and down. No hiding it, it's all out in the open. Fun to grab a beer and just watch the humanity. I would say most of them are ugly, fat, and/or old, but there are definitely some gems in there. Didn't end up finding any that I particularly fancied, so can't report on that.
Just to add fuel to the fire (see previous posts relating to relative safety of this area). I felt safe in this whole area. The "action" blocks have cops hanging out at either end, and it's just regular working-class people. I didn't feel any sketchiness. The blocks behind (south) of the action block looks to be middle-class residential, with some actually nice looking hotels. The blocks to the north are industrial, but still didn't feel dangerous the way El Centro does at night. Hi Floyd,
My Place is right on La Mayorista Strip, towards the quiet end of the block! I've put pics. All over these threads of both My Place and La Mayorista area! I only accept visits by appointments or if I'm hanging out I bring people up for a tour! The other My Place Satellite in Rosales accross from Luna Lunera is no longer in operation, negotiations fell through!
Frank Casio!
Nice summary Floyd, about Mayorista, there used to be a lot more food vendors on the street, but it was "cleaned" up and there are fewer, for a while many were completely gone and tables were not allowed outside the bars. It slowly changed back.
Things change quickly, also with casas the girls move around a lot and they change often
Apotheosis I always had to pay a cover, 5k to 10K on weekends, maybe they changed, that is good. San diego they have a minimum on weekends, fase II does all the time unless you sit at the bar.
Massajes Jihn Sin Do: This one is in the Monterey shopping mall, which has every kind of accessory for computers, phones, iPods, etc. It's just one block from the Poblado metro station, or about a 20 minute walk from Parque Lleras (which is the heart of El Poblado). Note that there are two salons in this mall that offer massage - this one is on the first floor, while the other is on the second floor. Didn't try that one. This one is nice, cramped room, but better decor than the "Japones" place.
I went here twice. The first time was fantastic - the massage was powerful, deep, very well done. At the end, she brushed my dick and asked quietly if I would like..? Nodding my assent, she proceeded to give me a very nice hand job. I would argue that a good hand job (with plenty of lube, two hands, etc) can be better than a bad blow job. The price was 40k for one hour, and I gave her a 8k tip which she seemed fine with.
Now here's the rub (no pun intended).. I went back here two weeks later, got the same woman (sorry, can't remember her name, she was maybe 40yo, not that hot), and this time I was disappointed. The massage was pretty good, but not as good as last time, and it felt rushed. As soon as she turned me over, instead of continuing the massage, she immediately went for the HJ. I tipped her the same amount as before (20%, pretty good for Colombia, I thought), and she had the gall to ask for more! I declined. It wasn't until I was walking away from the place and looked at my watch that I realized the whole thing had been no more than 30 minutes - no wonder it felt rushed, it was! I had paid for an hour but only received half of that.
So I hesitate whether to recommend this place, since I had such mixed experiences there.Was it by any chance Carmen? She's about 40 and has big boobs. If so, your experience is similar to that of another member of this forum (still in Texas, Jay?). Funny thing though is that I have excellent experiences with her.
If someone still feels tempted after reading Floyd's report, always, I repeat, always, ask for the cubicle downstairs. It's smaller, but there is no adjoining cubicle so the masseuse might allow you more touching etc.
TonySoprano
05-22-09, 08:46
Hello,
Can anyone tell me which is the best gym to check out fine paisa women?
Relapse1952
05-22-09, 08:47
Hey Gang,
Never drop your guard in Colombia, as it can be dangerous. I have lived in Medellin for over 3 years, and yes, I love Medellin and Colombia.
I live in Plaza de Alejandraia located in Poblado. It is a nice complex, and I have never had any problems.
This evening about 9pm my door bell rang. Without thinking I just opened the front door, and damn the luck. Three Colombians with guns pushed their way into my apartment. Being out numbered and out gunned, what the hell.
They tied me up in my bedroom, sole my watch, cell phone, camera and my laptop computer. Then they found my car keys, and I'll be damn if they didn't steal my car. Fortunately the car is insured!
I managed to get myself untied after they had departed and called the police. ABout 15 police arrived, and I thought I was on a CSI set. I will give them credit as they fingerprinted everything. Will they catch the 3 guys, who knows?
Anyway, just be safe, and don't be stupid. I never should have opened my door without looking first.
Yep, have to say though. I still love Colombia!!!
Relapse
CurrymasalaNYC
05-22-09, 17:48
My friend was walking behind the place where he works at 10 pm. This is in a very safe residential area. He was beaten and mugged and had to be hospitalized. You should be lucky that you didn't get hurt at all. Just getting some things taken is not a big deal.
Hello,
Can anyone tell me which is the best gym to check out fine paisa women?I could tell you. But then I'd have to silence you.
There is no bad gym anywhere in Medellín or in Colombia for that matter.
Hello,
Can anyone tell me which is the best gym to check out fine paisa women?I'm actually looking for one to work out in while I'm there - preferably close to the MM
Relapse, does your apartment or condo complex have a security guard?
Currymarsala, congratulations.
It sounds like you actually got on a plane after all the neurotic questions.
Relapse1952
05-23-09, 14:34
Relapse, does your apartment or condo complex have a security guard?
Currymarsala, congratulations.
It sounds like you actually got on a plane after all the neurotic questions.Plaza Alejandraia has 24 hour security. The police think one of the new guards was in on it. Time will tell?
Relapse
Relapse1952
05-23-09, 14:35
Relapse, does your apartment or condo complex have a security guard?
Currymarsala, congratulations.
It sounds like you actually got on a plane after all the neurotic questions.Plaza Alejandraia has 24 hour security. The police think one of the new guards was in on it. Time will tell?
Relapse
Relapse1952
05-23-09, 15:09
Has anyone every had any experience with Sur-America on collecting an insurance claim? Yep, stolen car, but had full coverage insurance.
Relapse
Your report brings back memories. I too had a very nice GFE with a 'Lindas Chicas' girl. Unfortunately, she did not have a cellphone otherwise I believe that I could have setup some dates on the side. I think anyone going to Medellin should at least check this place out once or twice. Hopefully the chicas working here can't be found elsewhere. The expense is unfortunate but "nothing ventured, nothing gained", right?
The moral of your tale. Always carry your own condoms!
This Is My First Time Going To South American How Much Do These Women Want For Girl Friend Experience In Mde.
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Hi Avsmith01,
I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...
Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!
Jackson
Frank Casio
05-24-09, 19:23
Hi Relapse,
Sorry to hear guy, I live in Envigado going on 5 years, I've never had anything bad happenned to me, thank God, but I still purchased the most secure apartment in this whole complex! I have a gated front door and even my back porch is totally gated like a bird cage! It's very pretty, I have a garden to look out to as I live on a first floor, but my gate is always locked, but I can keep the front door and porch doors open because of the gates! Let's also put it in perspective, do people ever get robbed in the USA?
Frank Casio!
Hey Gang,
Never drop your guard in Colombia, as it can be dangerous. I have lived in Medellin for over 3 years, and yes, I love Medellin and Colombia.
I live in Plaza de Alejandraia located in Poblado. It is a nice complex, and I have never had any problems.
This evening about 9pm my door bell rang. Without thinking I just opened the front door, and damn the luck. Three Colombians with guns pushed their way into my apartment. Being out numbered and out gunned, what the hell.
They tied me up in my bedroom, sole my watch, cell phone, camera and my laptop computer. Then they found my car keys, and I'll be damn if they didn't steal my car. Fortunately the car is insured!
I managed to get myself untied after they had departed and called the police. ABout 15 police arrived, and I thought I was on a CSI set. I will give them credit as they fingerprinted everything. Will they catch the 3 guys, who knows?
Anyway, just be safe, and don't be stupid. I never should have opened my door without looking first.
Yep, have to say though. I still love Colombia!!!
Relapse
Hi Relapse,
Sorry that happened to you but glad to hear you made it out ok. Once they have the drop on you you did the sensible thing and gave up the goods.
You know if you live in CO you can legally obtain a firearm and carry permit. It takes a bit of paperwork and a little money (firearms cost a lot more in CO than in the states) but if you are willing to go through the process then you will have a much better chance of defending yourself in the future.
Of course only you can make the determination as to whether or not being armed is a viable option for you. For some people it is best just to increase vigilance and hope for the best. And if the worst should happen then hopefully it is just stolen property that can be replaced. I would never say that material goods are worth losing your life over. After all. Once you're dead what good are those little trinkets anyways?
But at the same time, I would rather die on my feet standing and fighting back, rather than on my knees, hands bound behind my back and shot in the back of the head. Not saying that is how most robberies go down in CO. In fact maybe most of them if they get what they want then the victim will be ok. But fuck it I'd rather shoot a mf'kr than be a victim. That's just me though. Oh but if they have the drop on me then all bets are off. Rather live to fight another day.
Take care and I bet you will be more careful opening your front door from now on! Not that it will help. Hell if they want all they need to do if put a pretty chica in front of your door to knock while the bad guys are just off to the side stacked up ready to rush in once you open the door.
Hey Gang,
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This evening about 9pm my door bell rang. Without thinking I just opened the front door, and damn the luck. Three Colombians with guns pushed their way into my apartment. Being out numbered and out gunned, what the hell.
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Relapse
Another thing to consider is that this gang of thieves now knows you are an easy mark, unarmed, and have lots of expensive electronics, etc. that are theirs for the taking. Don't count on the Colombian police catching these guys, hell they may even be in on it. Do count on being robbed again unless you change your security posture. Regardless of whether or not you obtain a firearm.
Think about things like who you are bringing back to your home. Remember this is where you lay your head. Hopefully it is your sanctuary, your castle so to speak. Regardless of the size or expense, it is your home. It should be a safe and secure place where you can relax and let your guard down (somewhat). Me personally I could not live somewhere where I was constantly on edge wondering when the next home invasion was going to happen. I would be very careful about bringing chicas back to my place, if I lived in CO full time. Rather take them to a short time hotel. And that goes double for the lower estrata girls. That's not to say that an estrata 5 or 6 girl couldn't set you up but odds are it would be the lower estrata girl that tells her sicario or hoodlum bf what a nice place the rich gringo has.
In any case it might not even be related to a female at all... hell it could have been one of your neighbors that set you up... hard to tell. Did you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) anybody off recently? I'm sure i'm not telling you anything you don't already know, since you've been living in CO for 3 years...
Anyways take care man and thanks for sharing your experience with us. Always good to be reminded that we're not in Kansas anymore!
Hey Gang,
Never drop your guard in Colombia, as it can be dangerous. I have lived in Medellin for over 3 years... snip
... Will they catch the 3 guys, who knows?
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Relapse
CurrymasalaNYC
05-25-09, 03:12
I think bodytech viscaya is only 30 k per week or month.
CurrymasalaNYC
05-25-09, 04:17
Hi,
Are there aerobic classes at bodytech like kickboxing, spinning, etc. Or is there a gym with these classes.
Thanks
Latin Bound
05-25-09, 12:48
Has anyone every had any experience with Sur-America on collecting an insurance claim? Yep, stolen car, but had full coverage insurance.
RelapseIt's not as bad as you might think.
I don't think you should have much trouble with that.
Let's also put it in perspective, do people ever get robbed in the USA? People living in the best areas of the US are regularly subject to home invasion robberies, of course.
You make some good points Napalm. I believe the more street girls you associate with the more the odds stack against you. This is by no means an assesment of what happened to Relapse. Someone once said in a country where the girls are desperate enough to fuck a stranger for 10 bucks don't think the guys will not hesitate to rob you. I know that Medellin is not safe to wander around even in upscale barrios in daylight. Word travels around that rich gringos are staying here or there. There is a big difference between Medellin and say Cartagena's Bocagrande area safetywise.
Play safe amigos.
Relapse1952
05-25-09, 20:26
This morninig at 6:00am the police called. They had recovered my car from down behind a bank on Aveneda Poblado. Fortunatly it appears the little thiefs just drove it ~ 8 blocks and parked it. Happy to say I just got it back and it appears not to have been damaged.
I must say the police in this whole affair have been wonderful!!!
Thanks for the moral support!
Relapse
CurrymasalaNYC
05-25-09, 21:10
Let's just say maybe its better to stay at the mansion I wonder if he gives monthly rates seriously if he did 1500 it seems to be safer to stay there or maybe just avoid street girls ie estrato 123 girls and stick only to min casa girls like min 60k per hour girls and maybe even only do them in casa and only let the mm mansion girls and high high end girls ie lindas come
Hi,
Are there aerobic classes at bodytech like kickboxing, spinning, etc. Or is there a gym with these classes.
ThanksI have seen spinning and aerobics classes in Bodytechs.
I've viewed a clip about Colombia regarding devil's breath. Scopolamine. Very scary how they use this drug to manipulate people and use them like puppet to rob. Has anyone had any incident with pro's using this on them? Is this still going on Medellin? or is it relatively very rare incident?
Thanks.
CurrymasalaNYC
05-26-09, 04:22
And losing my laptop and watch and cell phone but I'm not going to be kidnapped cause I can't handle that is it that unsafe.
Frank Casio
05-26-09, 16:00
Hi guys,
I don't know guys, one incident happens and people talk about as if it happenned every day! I'saw more crime in Lancaster, Pa (Amish Country) than I have seen in Medellin and I've lived here going on 5 years! You guys talk about like if americans were dropping like flies, what an exaggeration! Look at the statistics, no american has ever been kidnapped in Medellin and they are definitely not being targetted! There is crime here, but far less than any other big city that I have ever lived in!
My neighbor in Envigado got robbed also, he opened the door, the same way, to a book salesman who had a gun inside his book! He wasn't a gringo, just another single Colombian guy living alone in an apartment which was foolish enough to open the door to a stranger! It can happenn to anyone! Crime does happen even in Medellin Paradise believe it or not! My neighbor also had a laptop, DVD, TVs, etc. Not only "gringos" have stuff here, there are a lot of middle class, well to do people in Medellin, even some of my poorer friends have laptops and ipods, cells, etc.
So relax, and just take ordinary safety prcautions! Even in lancaster, Pa my tenant was robbed twice, so what did I do? I put double pane windows and bolt locked doors when I moved back in and I never got robbed! Thiefs look for opportunity and the most vulnerable, so just take some logical precautions guys!
Frank Casio!
And losing my laptop and watch and cell phone but I'm not going to be kidnapped cause I can't handle that is it that unsafe.
Look at the statistics, no american has ever been kidnapped in Medellin and they are definitely not being targetted!Can you give me a link to those stats, Frank?
A friend of mine was kidnapped by a taxista and two guys on a moto with a gun while he was coming in from the international airport about 3 years ago. He is originally from California but had been living in Colombia for several years at the time.
Frank Casio
05-27-09, 18:17
Tom,
Isolated incidents guy, go back home if you think Medellin is so dangerous! Crime exists everywhere, but there are no stats or you don't here about foreigners being kidnapped or robbed in any kind of significant numbers! There are no stats for a negative, can't provide stats for isolated incidendts, that's why there aren't any! People don't provide stats for a negative, that's my whole point! There are stats. For 13 motorcycle accidents a day, 3, 000 a year! Do you understand? I think maybe you ought to stay nice and safe back home and avoid airport trips into Medellin, and maybe Medellin and Colombia all together.
Do you have a business in Costa Rica? That might explain your trashing of Medellin Paradise! I know you post in the Costa Rica Page, you spammed me there when I talked about Medellin Paradise! I'm assumming you're the same Tom33 on that web page! I've been told about all the crimes in Costa Rica and how even the police harrasses tourist, this doesn't happen in Medellin, only as an exception, police here protect the citizenry! In my business I deal with a lot of "foreigners" and to the last one they all fall in love with Medellin Paradise, no complaints of being afraid! A lot of them are short, small, thin, old, nerds, etc. And so far you are the only one I keep hearing from about the dangerouss, crippy, Medellin.
I think like so many others have told me who live here, you want to keep this Medellin Paradise to yourself and dont't want it trampled over by a bunch of "gingos" like in Costa Rica! I'm glad you love Medellin, but I wouldn't be misrepresenting a whole "people" and their tourist industry just so you can keep it for yourself or because you might have other business interest (? ) in Costa Rica! Take a break guy! Write something positive for once!
Frank Casio!
Can you give me a link to those stats, Frank?
A friend of mine was kidnapped by a taxista and two guys on a moto with a gun while he was coming in from the international airport about 3 years ago. He is originally from California but had been living in Colombia for several years at the time.
Floyd Dylan
05-27-09, 19:20
Was it by any chance Carmen? She's about 40 and has big boobs. If so, your experience is similar to that of another member of this forum (still in Texas, Jay?). Funny thing though is that I have excellent experiences with her.
If someone still feels tempted after reading Floyd's report, always, I repeat, always, ask for the cubicle downstairs. It's smaller, but there is no adjoining cubicle so the masseuse might allow you more touching etc.I remembered her name, and no it wasn't Carmen, it was Dora. But she sounds similarly built, and about the same age. Huh.
Tom,
Isolated incidents guy, go back home if you think Medellin is so dangerous! Crime exists everywhere, but there are no stats or you don't here about foreigners being kidnapped or robbed in any kind of significant numbers! There are no stats for a negative, can't provide stats for isolated incidendts, that's why there aren't any! People don't provide stats for a negative, that's my whole point! There are stats. For 13 motorcycle accidents a day, 3, 000 a year! Do you understand? I think maybe you ought to stay nice and safe back home and avoid airport trips into Medellin, and maybe Medellin and Colombia all together.
Do you have a business in Costa Rica? That might explain your trashing of Medellin Paradise! I know you post in the Costa Rica Page, you spammed me there when I talked about Medellin Paradise! I'm assumming you're the same Tom33 on that web page! I've been told about all the crimes in Costa Rica and how even the police harrasses tourist, this doesn't happen in Medellin, only as an exception, police here protect the citizenry! In my business I deal with a lot of "foreigners" and to the last one they all fall in love with Medellin Paradise, no complaints of being afraid! A lot of them are short, small, thin, old, nerds, etc. And so far you are the only one I keep hearing from about the dangerouss, crippy, Medellin.
I think like so many others have told me who live here, you want to keep this Medellin Paradise to yourself and dont't want it trampled over by a bunch of "gingos" like in Costa Rica! I'm glad you love Medellin, but I wouldn't be misrepresenting a whole "people" and their tourist industry just so you can keep it for yourself or because you might have other business interest (? ) in Costa Rica! Take a break guy! Write something positive for once!
Frank Casio!You are the guy who said look at the statistics. Now you say that there are no statistics.
You are trying to promote a business by making absurd statements about safety. I will not let those statements go unchallenged.
I have no business interests in any countries other than the US and Colombia. I have lived in Colombia for better than 6 years now. I tell everyone what a wonderful country it is. But I will never tell anyone how safe it is because it isn't. Gringos, especially newbies, have no business anywhere near la Mayorista or any of the other iffy areas in Medellín including most of el Centro. Many of my Colombian friends won't go anywhere near la Mayorista except to shop during the day, and they were born and raised in Medellín. And I know people who work in la Mayorista.
Especially with the difficulties we face today with the gang war in Medellín, you are encouraging people to do unwise things so you can make a peso. Sure crime exists everywhere, but no experience in the US can prepare anyone for Colombia. This simply is not Kansas or even South Central LA.
Frank Casio
05-28-09, 06:26
Hi Tom,
I have more business than I can handle guy ! Never did it for money, that´s why I charge so little and give so much ! I love sharing what has brought me so much pleasure and relive it through my guests, otherwise I´d get board of so much pussy ! I'm retired, I live like a king in Medellin Paradise, have various properties ! My income from the USA alone is greater than many Doctors and Engineers here, but I´ll get board if I don´t do something!
So just relax Tom, you´ll be ok, enjoy your part of Medellin Paradise ! You can stay in El Poblado or wherever else you think is save, I´ll take care of my "hommies" in the "hood" ! Live us poor and middle class people enjoy what Medellin Paradise has to offer also! Take care guy!
Frank Casio!
Okay, so, I'm planning for my upcoming trip to Medellin--which includes the usual perusing of ISG: Reports, Lists, Reports of Distinction, Photos, etc. So, I've seen all the back and forth on the safety issues, what is/isn't a gringo, the origin of the word "gringo," what is/isn't a prostitute, why CasaMedellin is asking folks (repeatedly) not to visit his hotel, the BBQs that Medellin Language Institute has/had on Sundays, being a big spender vs a thrifty spender, Pablo's grave and more.
I also took a really close look at the maps and decided that I needed more. I figured if I had the right map, I could pull it up on my iPhone and navigate as necessary without issue (of course I'll be careful where I whip out my iPhone). I decided I would create maps that not only displayed casas/massage spots, but also discos / nightclubs, restaurants and casinos. In addition, I figured it would be prudent to add in a few hospitals, malls and nearby Exito supermarkets. Finally, I figured it would be beneficial to take a close in look at Parque Lleras to show what places are where in that area. Basically, I like to know where I'm going before I get there and not be at the mercy of a taxi driver or "somebody" I ask on the street.
So, using Google Maps, which also notes the Medellin Metro stops, I created the attached maps (and attached a Metro map) that will hopefully serve as the evolution of the wonderful maps already provided on this forum! Thanks to those who created them and the lists as they were all used in creating my products.
Of note, I was not able to find a location (though I may have had an address) for the following spots to plot on the map, any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Sorry, but, I didn't really get much north of el Centro or down in the Envigado/Itagui areas because there's only a few places down there, and I figured if you're in that area, you probably know your way around or are with someone, like Frank, who is watching out for you.
Anyway, enjoy, and feedback (dare I say) is welcome!
Rodeo
Aussie Greg
05-28-09, 15:56
I'll guess I'll hope on the bag wagon to.
Two gringo's were robbed in Paque lleres early this week by gun point.
Aussie G.
QUOTE=Tom 33]You are the guy who said look at the statistics. Now you say that there are no statistics.
You are trying to promote a business by making absurd statements about safety. I will not let those statements go unchallenged.
I have no business interests in any countries other than the US and Colombia. I have lived in Colombia for better than 6 years now. I tell everyone what a wonderful country it is. But I will never tell anyone how safe it is because it isn't. Gringos, especially newbies, have no business anywhere near la Mayorista or any of the other iffy areas in Medellín including most of el Centro. Many of my Colombian friends won't go anywhere near la Mayorista except to shop during the day, and they were born and raised in Medellín. And I know people who work in la Mayorista.
Especially with the difficulties we face today with the gang war in Medellín, you are encouraging people to do unwise things so you can make a peso. Sure crime exists everywhere, but no experience in the US can prepare anyone for Colombia. This simply is not Kansas or even South Central LA.[/QUOTE]
Frank Lucas
05-28-09, 18:55
Ok,
I have listened to this back and forth stuff about Colombia and safety. Now I think I must chime in here.
A little background. I monger in Mexico almost monthly, yes the cartel areas of the Texas border and have had only one in issue in 10 years and it was with the police robbing me and my friends. Also have been to Costa Rica and South East Asia about 5 time.
I just came back from Medellin Colombia and must say that this place is awsome. We stayed at the Laureless Penthouse and it was great.
My crew and I visited La Mayorista with no issues as well as the San Diego area.
We got caught several times after dark in el centro during a last minute new life run.
We pulled taxis at random where ever we were going and never had any issues, did not even have to ask them to use the meter like in most places.
We walked from the metro station in the middle of the night and had no issues.
We walked to our now favorite trout restauraunt and had no problems. This was a walk through a neighborhood as well as a bar area and no one even stared.
Frankly the most disappointing thing to me about Medellin is the fact that the chicas did not really stare or pay much attention. I have been told that I should chat them first and they will open up, who knows.
If you guys have any questions please ask and I will try and answer them.
I am not an experet, but I can't sit by and have you all thinking that Medellin is SOOOO dangerous.
I am sure that crime does happen but not to the degree that is being represented.
My .02's
Woodway
Yea I just got back from Cali. Yea they tried to rob me. Its not like I wasn't expecting it. I have going to Medellin since 1996 when you almost had to shoot your way in and out. Medellin and Cali aint for pussies leave your pantyhose at the Miami airport on your way down. If your scared; go to Cartagena. Greg is correct the last time I was at the Mansion actually staying in his room me and another guy were in El Centro together during the day and seen I guy get capped right on the sidewalk broad daylight in middle of a bunch of people. If your scared don't go. Or stay in Poblado or something. Colombia is twice as safe as it used to be 1999 era but still is no picnic. I still go and have fun but just know where you are. There is Alot of hot chics there so is it worth the risk ? Yea I am going back on June 4.
Frank Casio
05-28-09, 20:52
Hey Aussie,
It was the Medellin Mansion that got robbed at gun point, you were tied up and all your safes got robbed! Now you are saying two "gringos" got robbed at Parque Lleras at gun point! I'm sorry, I must be stupid, it doesn't register! And it's La Mayorista that's suppose to be dangerous, I'm very confused.! Oh, and by the way, you still owe me $28, 000cop from the last guy I referred to your place! I met up with El Castillo at the Penthouse Party and he reminded me about it, but stilll no payment! Oh gosh, it's just $28, 000cop, I'll tell you what, you can keep it!
Frank Casio!
I'll guess I'll hope on the bag wagon to.
Two gringo's were robbed in Paque lleres early this week by gun point.
Aussie G.
QUOTE=Tom 33]You are the guy who said look at the statistics. Now you say that there are no statistics.
You are trying to promote a business by making absurd statements about safety. I will not let those statements go unchallenged.
I have no business interests in any countries other than the US and Colombia. I have lived in Colombia for better than 6 years now. I tell everyone what a wonderful country it is. But I will never tell anyone how safe it is because it isn't. Gringos, especially newbies, have no business anywhere near la Mayorista or any of the other iffy areas in Medellín including most of el Centro. Many of my Colombian friends won't go anywhere near la Mayorista except to shop during the day, and they were born and raised in Medellín. And I know people who work in la Mayorista.
Especially with the difficulties we face today with the gang war in Medellín, you are encouraging people to do unwise things so you can make a peso. Sure crime exists everywhere, but no experience in the US can prepare anyone for Colombia. This simply is not Kansas or even South Central LA.[/QUOTE]
AddictedToWomen
05-28-09, 20:55
Tom speaks a lot of sense.
It works like this: If you walked blindfold across 42nd street and didn't get hit by a car, would you conclude that that was a safe activity? What if I told you I'd done that many times without a problem and everyone who said it was dangerous was talking out their arse: would that change your opinion?
So you go to Colombia/Mexico/DC/wherever, which everyone says is *so* fucking dangerous and live to tell the tale. Does that make it intrinsically *less* dangerous? Just like walking across 42nd street, you *know* it doesn't. *Not* everyone who goes to (wherever) gets killed/mugged/looses a kidney/whetever. Does this mean we should stop saying to people that Colombia ain't Kansas? That's all's rosy and safe? Just stick that big wad o' cash in your back pocket and go party?
I wouldn't say that to any customer of mine, because I want them to ENJOY their time in Colombia, tell everyone else that they didn't have any problems, and COME BACK. The best way of achieving that: BE HONEST.
Manizales911
05-28-09, 21:54
Ok,
I have listened to this back and forth stuff about Colombia and safety. Now I think I must chime in here.
A little background. I monger in Mexico almost monthly, yes the cartel areas of the Texas border and have had only one in issue in 10 years and it was with the police robbing me and my friends. Also have been to Costa Rica and South East Asia about 5 time.
I just came back from Medellin Colombia and must say that this place is awsome. We stayed at the Laureless Penthouse and it was great.
My crew and I visited La Mayorista with no issues as well as the San Diego area.
We got caught several times after dark in el centro during a last minute new life run.
We pulled taxis at random where ever we were going and never had any issues, did not even have to ask them to use the meter like in most places.
We walked from the metro station in the middle of the night and had no issues.
We walked to our now favorite trout restauraunt and had no problems. This was a walk through a neighborhood as well as a bar area and no one even stared.
Frankly the most disappointing thing to me about Medellin is the fact that the chicas did not really stare or pay much attention. I have been told that I should chat them first and they will open up, who knows.
If you guys have any questions please ask and I will try and answer them.
I am not an experet, but I can't sit by and have you all thinking that Medellin is SOOOO dangerous.
I am sure that crime does happen but not to the degree that is being represented.
My .02's
WoodwayYou guys that think that Colombia is safe because you went there and didn't get your throat slit are making a big mistake,it is a dangerous place make no mistake about it.
That being said, I love Colombia and am in the process of preparing to move there to live within the next 6 months. In the last 4 months all three of my novia's brothers have been robbed at knifepoint,two of them robbed twice during this time and the other was stabbed in the back and almost died.
I just returned from 3 weeks visiting (and mongering) and had a knife pulled on me outside a pool hall,fortunately the f**ker was drunk as a skunk,stumbled and fell which gave me time to take off. Believe me,I wanted to use his head as a soccer ball while he was on the ground but there were other Colombianos in sight and knew it was best to leave before getting hurt.
All of this happened in the city of Manizales which is considered one of the safer places in Colombia so if you think any of the cities in Colombia are as safe or safer than all but the worst areas of the U.S. you are dead wrong and if you travel to Colombia frequently it is just a matter of time before you witness or are part of an unpleasant experience unless you are extremely vigilant and even that doesn't guarantee your safety.
Enjoy Colombia and the beautiful women but watch your back,front and sides and know that there are a lot of desperately poor people in this wonderful country and this leads a number of them to do desperate things which puts YOUR personal safety in harms way.
I have lived in Medellin for nearly 5 years and until recently have always felt safe and have never been attacked or threatened. Now with demobilization of the paras who have moved back to the city and formed gangs known as combos the situation has changed.
The combos have carried out numerous indiscriminate attacks of violence, robbery, torture and killings. The murder rate in Medellin is already 49% higher compared to last year as a result of these gangs.
This afternoon at 2pm a Colombian friend was robbed of his cell phone and 150,000 pesos by three men with guns and knives on Calle 10 close to Parque Lleras in Poblado. This is one of the most popular and fashionable areas in Medellin with security on every corner.
Last week President Uribe moved Colombia’s chief of police together with 50 DINIC agents (FBI equivalent) to Medellin to try to bring an end to these problems.
I no longer feel that it is safe to live here even if you take reasonable precautions
i have listened to this back and forth stuff about colombia and safety. now i think i must chime in here ...
... my crew and i visited la mayorista with no issues as well as the san diego area.
we got caught several times after dark in el centro during a last minute new life run.
if you guys have any questions please ask and i will try and answer them.
i am not an experet, but i can't sit by and have you all thinking that medellin is soooo dangerous.
i am sure that crime does happen but not to the degree that is being represented.seems like every few months the topic of safety in medellin comes up.
a few guys that live there and know the city, caution that though it`s not crazy dangerous, danger does linger and to be on guard.
then a couple guys who visited for a week and weren´t accosted, mugged, raped or killed, etc chime in and tell us that since they had no problems in their weeks visit, and didn´t see the danger, that the city is not soooo dangerous.
this cycle of posts reappears every so often.
the truth of the matter is, and it ain´t rocket science really, that you are visiting colombia.
yep, for sure you can also get robbed in toledo-ohio, ocala-florida, peoria-il, etc, etc, but when you´re in colombia, you´re in a totally different environment.
most of my fellow gringos that i`ve met traveling to medellin speak no or very little spanish.
many guys have very little travel experience, and some with very little street smarts.
you stick out in colombia. you´re generally a naive visitor and may become a target.
just like the myth that you`ll land in colombia and be hounded by beautiful women at every turn just because you`re a gringo, it`s also a myth that you´ll surely be killed or kidnapped your first day in country.
chances are good that you`ll visit medellin, have a weeks worth of fun and return with no bad incidents. you too can then report that it´s not sooo dangerous.
the best advice is that from the guys with experience.
have fun, keep your guard up -- always, don´t get into fights, and don´t be stupid and become an easy target.
heck, even i´ve had a few scares in medellin over the years and i´m one of the smartest and coolest cats out there. :)
I have "always" paid in advance or laid the money on the table under my lighter to show that I will pay- not throw her out without money, something that happens to chicas in Latin America all the time.
This has meant that I have got a relaxed chica, since her greatest worry is to be robbed. She might get focused on limiting services an demand more for "extras". Usually this goes for ugly girls whose only way to get money is to fool a drunken extranjero. Good looking chicas knows that their customers will come back by themselves.
The good ones you repeat with. The ultimate example is Romina in Bs As. Beautiful, sexy, horney. She was very picky with hygiene and washed me and herself intensly before having sex- she would be the standard for all chicas. Set a price, demand a 100% clean customer, and then give your best service!
MiamiHeatLuver
05-28-09, 23:51
I'll guess I'll hope on the bag wagon to.
Two gringo's were robbed in Paque lleres early this week by gun point.
Aussie G.
QUOTE=Tom 33]You are the guy who said look at the statistics. Now you say that there are no statistics.
You are trying to promote a business by making absurd statements about safety. I will not let those statements go unchallenged.
I have no business interests in any countries other than the US and Colombia. I have lived in Colombia for better than 6 years now. I tell everyone what a wonderful country it is. But I will never tell anyone how safe it is because it isn't. Gringos, especially newbies, have no business anywhere near la Mayorista or any of the other iffy areas in Medellín including most of el Centro. Many of my Colombian friends won't go anywhere near la Mayorista except to shop during the day, and they were born and raised in Medellín. And I know people who work in la Mayorista.
Especially with the difficulties we face today with the gang war in Medellín, you are encouraging people to do unwise things so you can make a peso. Sure crime exists everywhere, but no experience in the US can prepare anyone for Colombia. This simply is not Kansas or even South Central LA.[/QUOTE]Of course, and I think this will be a much more common occurrence im afraid. The ladrones know where the money lies, the're for the most part stupid but are very quick learners, unless it is a well thought out hit which they usually carry out to precision.
Daryll Musician
05-29-09, 01:01
I'll guess I'll hope on the bag wagon to.
Two gringo's were robbed in Paque lleres early this week by gun point.
Aussie G.
QUOTE=Tom 33]You are the guy who said look at the statistics. Now you say that there are no statistics.
You are trying to promote a business by making absurd statements about safety. I will not let those statements go unchallenged.
I have no business interests in any countries other than the US and Colombia. I have lived in Colombia for better than 6 years now. I tell everyone what a wonderful country it is. But I will never tell anyone how safe it is because it isn't. Gringos, especially newbies, have no business anywhere near la Mayorista or any of the other iffy areas in Medellín including most of el Centro. Many of my Colombian friends won't go anywhere near la Mayorista except to shop during the day, and they were born and raised in Medellín. And I know people who work in la Mayorista.
Especially with the difficulties we face today with the gang war in Medellín, you are encouraging people to do unwise things so you can make a peso. Sure crime exists everywhere, but no experience in the US can prepare anyone for Colombia. This simply is not Kansas or even South Central LA.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen,
Since I am contracted to the Government, I will give insight on the rising crime in Colombia. Since I have traveled to Colombia last year, I have been briefed by Operational Security personnel about increasing crime in Colombia, which includes Medellin. The effects of the Global Recession are beginning to take its toll on Colombia. Jobs in Colombia are dwindling, especially Medellin are dwindling. Colombia's GDP is decreasing. Colombians are desperate, therefore-to obtain funding to take care of their basic necessities-criminal acts are increasing. Also, President Uribe is approaching the end of his presidential tenure. Cartels and paramilitary groups are preparing to overtake/test the incoming President and his/her officials. I will not create a variable equation to determine the prospective rise in Crime in Colombia because there is much more to both scenarios than arithmetic. Expect crime to rise to significant levels. You do not have to take heed to my information. I am only requesting that everybody on this board have fun, but be cautious and vigilant. The coming months will Test Colombia.
I have never been in such a lovely city that provides so many good looking and friendly minded females. ¿Impossible? It's impossible NOT to find a cute girl. ¿are you sure you where in medellin? Please read someother reports and you will notice how far of the track you are.
Thanks for the info Detjunky, I will be there. The Mangos scene is tough to pickup any girls, Oviado is impossible, even in the local clubs colombians dance in groups unlike USA, with dating sites like
http://www.romancelatina.com,
You really need time to play the game, you really need a place to just mix and mingle in medlelin for local action. Many colombians are crazy about average looking gringos. Parties are a nice way to meet some cheap pussy. Pics of girls I was luck with in Medellin.
You can easily send items to yourself, "Yousendit", and the like. They you can delete any personal items.
I hate to be the one to tell you, but you may have your films viewed upon a return to the USA If singled-out for an inspection. I had 800 tourist pictures and the like returning from Spain, and offered to order the pizza. After the first 120 pictures of churches, I was told that I could go. HA.
We pulled taxis at random where ever we were going and never had any issues, did not even have to ask them to use the meter like in most places.
We walked from the metro station in the middle of the night and had no issues.
I am sure that crime does happen but not to the degree that is being represented.Your use of taxis will get you into big problems. Don't do that.
You can walk from some metro stations in some directions in the middle of the night. Do you know which ones and in which directions?
Did you listen to the evening news or read any newspapers? Right now Medellín is at war. Believe it.
I don't get it; is it illegal to have nude pics/video on your camera/laptop when leaving Colombia or entering the US? Or is it just the embarrassment factor?
Rodeo
i plan to stay in medellin for several months. now i understand there is a gang-war breaking out, violent crimes are peeking again.
tell us more tom!
your use of taxis will get you into big problems. don't do that.
you can walk from some metro stations in some directions in the middle of the night. do you know which ones and in which directions?
did you listen to the evening news or read any newspapers? right now medellín is at war. believe it.
The policeforce consist of medium smart people and they make medium work, sometimes giving in to their low levels insticts, i.e. to look for some embarrasing photos, which is of no legal interest at all. We romantices about police, but they are just us with a uniform and a lot of rights to do things, which they are not mentally prepared or developed to take care of.
I don't get it; is it illegal to have nude pics/video on your camera/laptop when leaving Colombia or entering the US? Or is it just the embarrassment factor?
Rodeo
A French citizen, who had been missing for over a week, was found dead in an abandoned taxi in Bello, north of Medellin, authorities announced Tuesday.
A dismembered body found in a taxi in the town north of Medellín on May 14 was identified as that of Frenchman Gilbert Joseph Pierre Vial Guerrero "whose family reported him missing on 11 May when he traveled from La Ceja to Envigado", the Antioquia office of the Prosecutor General said.
"The Technical Investigation Corps (CTI) was able to identify a body found in an abandoned taxi on May 14 as the missing French man", the PG added.
Source: http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/4104-french-citizen-murdered-north-of-medellin.html
Guys this really sucks! I'm planning to go back there this summer and now this shit happens. How about Cartagena compare to Medellin right now? Is it safer there? I'll just go there instead.
The tourist zone in Cartagena is the one really safe area in all of Colombia. The airport is in the city in a fairly safe barrio(Crespo). Transport from the airport to the tourist zone is quite safe as well. Cartagena is really the best choice for Colombian newbies. And it is the best choice for people who are a bit nervous about personal safety.
I have been pounding on the problems in Medellín partly because of the people who continue to post about how safe it is here. Today it is not very safe. That doesn't mean that the experienced traveler can't enjoy Medellín if he is careful. However, if he does stupid shit, he is fucked. I know of some people who are leaving the city this summer for the relative safety of the nearby smaller towns like Rionegro.
Poblado, Laureles Estadio, La América, and parts of Belén are the safer parts of Medellín these days. Envigado and Sabaneta, just south of the city, are not very safe.
One reason for the problems is that the heads of the paramilitaries have been jailed. Some were extradited to the US. There is a battle for succession. President Uribe has been calling in reinforcements and the Mayor is putting more police on the streets. The slowing economy hasn't helped, either.
I am hopeful that things will settle down. Medellín is my permanent home, and I have no plans to move. But I cannot predict the future.
JazzPlayer
05-30-09, 15:59
A French citizen, who had been missing for over a week, was found dead in an abandoned taxi in Bello, north of Medellin, authorities announced Tuesday.
Guys this really sucks! I'm planning to go back there this summer and now this shit happens. How about Cartagena compare to Medellin right now? Is it safer there? I'll just go there instead.Yes, There is too much danger in MDE. _Please_ go to Cartagena.
Chau
Aussie Greg
05-30-09, 16:26
One of our guests a few months back wittnessed a guy being shot the bottom side of Paque Poblado.
Also three guy's including a police officer being shot at a bank hold up not far from the Mansion, we went down and had a coffee at Juan Valdes and watched the guy's being loaded into the ambulances.
Also , its probley a colombian thing, two colombians have been shot in Mayorista just latley (onre infront of Big Bad Boyd) causing the bars to be closed.
Just my two cents.
Aussie G.
A French citizen, who had been missing for over a week, was found dead in an abandoned taxi in Bello, north of Medellin, authorities announced Tuesday.
A dismembered body found in a taxi in the town north of Medellín on May 14 was identified as that of Frenchman Gilbert Joseph Pierre Vial Guerrero "whose family reported him missing on 11 May when he traveled from La Ceja to Envigado", the Antioquia office of the Prosecutor General said.
"The Technical Investigation Corps (CTI) was able to identify a body found in an abandoned taxi on May 14 as the missing French man", the PG added.
Source: http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/4104-french-citizen-murdered-north-of-medellin.html
Guys this really sucks! I'm planning to go back there this summer and now this shit happens. How about Cartagena compare to Medellin right now? Is it safer there? I'll just go there instead.
Daryll Musician
05-30-09, 17:45
A French citizen, who had been missing for over a week, was found dead in an abandoned taxi in Bello, north of Medellin, authorities announced Tuesday.
A dismembered body found in a taxi in the town north of Medellín on May 14 was identified as that of Frenchman Gilbert Joseph Pierre Vial Guerrero "whose family reported him missing on 11 May when he traveled from La Ceja to Envigado", the Antioquia office of the Prosecutor General said.
"The Technical Investigation Corps (CTI) was able to identify a body found in an abandoned taxi on May 14 as the missing French man", the PG added.
Source: http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/4104-french-citizen-murdered-north-of-medellin.html
Guys this really sucks! I'm planning to go back there this summer and now this shit happens. How about Cartagena compare to Medellin right now? Is it safer there? I'll just go there instead.
Gentlemen,
Since I am contracted to the Government, I will give insight on the rising
crime in Colombia. Since I have traveled to Colombia last year, I have been
briefed by Operational Security personnel about increasing crime in
Colombia, which includes Medellin. The effects of the Global Recession are beginning to take its toll on Colombia. Jobs in Colombia are dwindling, especially Medellin are dwindling. Colombia's GDP is decreasing. Colombians are desperate, therefore-to obtain funding to take care of their basic necessities-criminal acts are increasing. Also, President Uribe is approaching the end of his presidential tenure. Cartels and paramilitary groups are preparing to overtake/test the incoming President and his/her officials. I will not create a variable equation to determine the prospective rise in Crime in Colombia because there is much more to both scenarios than arithmetic. Expect crime to rise to significant levels. You do not have to take heed to my information. I am only requesting that everybody on this board have fun, but be cautious and vigilant. The coming months will Test Colombia.Based on the news source added by Revolt, I believe my previous post is coming to fruition. I am not being Mr. Dooms Day, nor am I trying to detract tourism from Colombia. The Government's intelligence on the increasing violence in Colombia is real. As previously stated, because of the dire effects of the Global economy (jobs dwindling in Colombia) and the end of President Uribe's tenure in office, crime will significantly spike. As a criminal syndicate, which includes paramilitary groups; if you knew the strong ruling hand of your nation (Uribe) would renounce his/her reign, wouldn't you take advantage of the situation to gain more power and support? By overtaking the incoming officials, you would be able to conduct more business (increasing profits) without Government interference. To relinquish power from the incoming administration, you would need to establish fear into the localities, then your Federal Government. This situation is beginning to occur in Colombia and is already happening in Mexico.
Prior to the Global economic downturn, Colombia's employment had gradually increased, but unemployment levels remained relatively high. There is a lack of interest in their GDP because the Global economy (mostly consumers) does not have the financial funding for these products. This is why Colombian exports are decreasing. Also, the Free Trade Agreement, which is vital to Colombian business, still has not been approved by American Legislators. Lack of trade, and the decrease in interest of products equals high unemployment in Colombia (http://www.semana.com/noticias-print-edition/the-colombian-economy-in-2009-uh-oh/117925. Aspx). People have to maintain their livelihood (food, utilities, transportation, etc.), therefore, they will do what it takes to maintain household stability (robbery/extortion). Gentlemen, have fun, but be aware of your surroundings, and approach each peculiar scenario with cautiousness and vigilance. Proverb quotes, "Good nature without prudence, is foolishness."
Frank Casio
05-30-09, 18:03
Hi guys,
Friday, 15 May 2009, Penthouse Party, Ruta 13, Luna Lunera and "Casa Los Angeles", ! Started Friday night out at the Penthouse Party organized by Harry from "Romance latina" with Panama Mike and one of my guests. Very nice apartment setting for the Party! The balcony and view were very nice, but no comparison to the amount of stunningly beautiful women gathered around! About 60-40 favoring women! I picked up 4 numbers, one was not a pro for sure, the other 3 I'm not sure about! These women were hot, specially Alexa and Carolina! Alexa was a barely 18 hottie with a bumper that would ressurrect the dead! She danced "reggeton" with me grinding that voloptuos ass against me, I became 16 again! I could have come right there and then and had to grind my teeth not to come! I hadn't had that happened in who knows how long! I guess the specially thin cloth of her dress just made it seem like she was rubbing me with her naked ass, too much! While Viviana and katalina were also hot with protruding breasts, Carolina was exceptionally hot. Carolina is a blonde beauty well endowed on all sides, an almost perfect "10"!
The party was really nice when it came to beautiful women attendance, but it was ended a little short of 2:00 AM, when it was announced for the whole night, and music was played only occassionally. I would go back for the amount and quality of the women! My cuttie "Alexa" went to Mangos with a group of people and we've been trying to arrange a date since. Carolina and myself were trying to hook up most of the night, but by the time she became available around 3:30AM I was in "Casa Los Angeles" pumping and grinding with one of Teresa's girls!
After leaving the party the guys and I went to Ruta 13, outside of Palmahia. All these bars stay open till about 7AM. It was a little slow and we wanted a little more action so we went to Luna Lunera around 3AM! There were 5-10 girls, a few hotties but we decided to check out "Casa Los Angeles" accross the street where the prices were a lot more reasonable (4k for a drink vs. 10k at Luna Lunera). Teresa immediately brought 5 girls for us 4 guys and we soon each had a hottie sitting in our laps! We drank and partied with them and took all kinds of pictures!
Panama Mike and his friend were really tired from a lack of sleep so they chose to go home, I was still bursting at the seems from my experience with "Alexa", so I took my light hair, fair skin "cutie" to a room and banged the crap out of her. Her GFE was as close to a 10 as you can get, but I think no BBBJ? She let me take pictures and kissed me lightly on the lips! She assummed numerous sexy positions while I phucked her! She got my attention! She sat on my krotch with her back to me while moving her sexy body up and down, it was wooooooooooooow! I normally pay 50k for an hour at "Casa los Angeles" and 25k for the room, but I gave her 70k for the GFE and the pics. She let me take! It was the perfect ending to an already great night for me! My guess took another girl, but his experience was not as rewarding! After almost 5 years in Medellin I've learned that it's not always perfect, but when you find the right girl it's worth all the waiting!
Frank Casio!
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Frank Casio
05-30-09, 20:18
Hi guys,
Friday, 22 May 2009, one of my guests arrived at My Place in La Mayorista at around 10Pm. I gave him the usual tour around My place to learn about rest. Locations, ATM's, girls, etc.! Afterwards, he wanted to go upstairs to take a shower, so I picked two smoking hot "cuties" to wait for him in one of the disco bars! One had super hot pants which showed her beautiful milky white body, shapely legs and nice breast! The other was darker skin with protruding breast just about to burst from her blouse and a beautiful face. Both were at least an "8"! As it's ussually with "some" of these really hot girls, they want to work. Even though I got half a bottle of rum and 2 sprites for 29k (great price), they were fidgity and the GFE of the light skin one was nearly zero with the other being around a "3". They were both gone after 15 minutes, even before my newly arrived guess came down. They were smolking hot, but preferred to take their chances for a score standing outside, I understand. The girl sittng next to me approached me and asked me why I was sitting all alone, I explained to her what happenned and she offerred to sit with me! This girl was "peruvian" looking, around a "6", but her GFE was way passed a "10" and I sensed that she really liked me!
Shortly after her moving to my table my guess showed up. But he was just dying to go to the San Diego area to pick up a street girl from there! I figured he must have had a good experience with one of the San Diego street girls because that was the only thing he wanted to do the minute he got off the cab! I tried to tell him to stay with me and pick one of the "hotties" around, but he insisted in going to the San Diego area! He hopped in a Taxi, I warned him about insisting on the Taxi meter, but the driver still turned it off and charged him 30k for the ride to pick a girl in the San Diego area. He was back in less than an hour with what looked liked a really hot chick, they had agreed on 100k for the night. He took her up to My Place and after less than half an hour he came back to complaint that the girl had left after just 20 minutes. I ussually tell my guests to pay half up front and half at the end when you're paying for an hour or more with street girls, but he hadn't stayed long enough with me yet to receive those instructions. He was sad, but he wrote it off to experience.
Meanwhile, I was partying, dancing and fundling my perfect GFE "Peruvian" looking girl, Yenny! She danced with me till almost 3:30 AM and agreed to spend the night with me for just 50k, I thought wooow! I took her up to My Place, and although not drop dead gorgeous her GFE and soft skin more than made up for it. She really liked me and went down on me without a condom, totally BBBJ, awesome! Then I noticed that she ha d a bushel of her between her legs which told me right away she was not a pro. Apparently she just works at the disco serving drinks for 18k, plus tips! She only goes with somebody if she really likes him, not necessarily for money. That explained the total GFE and the 50k for the whole night! I was so happy when she opened those hot legs and let me go in there totally BB, it was paradise! We made love, sweated and came for almost an hour! Then we slept for about 1.5 hours and I woke up to a hard on and this naked cutie by my side, so I just started rubbing and fingering that nice open slice between a women's legs and put my package back in there! She let me put all my juice inside of her after assuring me that she had had her tubes cut! She wanted to stay sleeping till 12PM but I told her that I had to go to my house in Envigado! Another great experience, got lucky again, woooooowwww!
Tuesday, 26 May 2009, I welcomed another guess at My Place around 4:30 PM! I took him and another guess on the usual orientation tour, banks, ATMs, restaurants, supermarkets, etc. They were both in shock and awe at the amount of beautiful women in the 4 large Supermarkets inside La Mayorista compound! Just normal girls, cashiers and product samplers or representatives! You will always be in shock and awe anywhere in Medellin Paradise at the incredible amount of beautiful ordinary women everywhere! After we finished the orientation tour, I spotted this beautiful girl with amazing hazel ayes in the restaurant right down the stairs from My Place!
She was sitting and having dinner with two other girls, this was around 5:30PM! She stared directly into my eyes and just swept me off my feet! I wasn't sure she was a working girl, but she saw the desire in my eyes and came right up to me. She said she knew me from before, but I couldn't remember, too many women! Her face looked familiar, but it didn't matter, I had her now!
I asked her carefully if she worked and she said yes, my lucky day! I invited her and her friends to My Place so that they could feel comfortable visiting my guests at any time! When we got into the living room I was in total shock and awe with this girl's legs and ass! She had the "thickest" (but nice thick) legs I had ever seen with an equally hot ass! She let me raise her dress to see them and started raising her other friend's dress who also looked nice in her "thongs"! I couldn't resist this women, I told my guess I had to have her right then! I appologized to my construction worker who was working on building a second bath at My place, and just took her into one of the empty rooms. Meanwhile, my guess was fond of the other girl and took her to his room!
I don't know what happenned in his room, but my girl Tatiana immediately went down on me, again a total BBBJ, wooow! After a bad experience with Milena last week I've had 3 incredible sessions this week straight in a row, wooowww! I asked her if she could put the whole thing in her mouth and she said yes, it was awesome. She choked a little bit, but she gave it her best try! As good as that was, I was just dying to find myself between those beautiful legs and see the rest of her body! She had the cutest breast, innocent looking breast, perfectly round with a small soft nipple, what you'd imagine a younger girl would look like, but she assured me she was 18!
When she opened those legs and showed me that beautiful pussy, I just went in there right away, we both forgot I didn't have a condom! She started saying, "but you don't have a condom", to what I answered, "please honey I'm already in, I'll give you an extra 10k", to what she hesitantly agreed! I told her I would'nt shoot inside of her, she was worried about getting knocked off. What a pleasure comming in and out of this girl's pussy, I could barely resist myself. After 15-20 minutes I couldn't hold on any longer and I shot my load all over her pretty body! Awesome girl, I still get a hard on when I think about her! I hope I was more into repeating, but I'm always looking for new ground to break, but if I were going to repeat with anybody it would be her! Not necessarily because of her GFE, just because of he beauty, those curveous cowgirl thick legs crowned on top with that awesome ass!
Frank Casio!
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Frank Casio
05-30-09, 21:26
Hey guy,
You must be from another planet! What in the World is your problem? Why don't you just go away! Are you nuts? I have saved dozens of guys from the dissappointment of Cartagena, and when they get here they thank me for changing their impression of Colombia! There is no comparison between Cartagena when it comes to cleanliness, organization, women, etc. It's like night and day! Cartagena is not a Paradise of beautiful women and flowers! If there are any beautiful women in Cartagena they are from Medellin, and a lot more expensive, it's far from a paradise! It's hot, sticky, the beaches are ugly, no comparison to any tropical island! No where to go for a newbie! You totally misrepresent Medellin!
You are either a total nut, or you have some hidden agenda! I lived in Cartagena, then it was Cali and when I got to Medellin Paradise it was love at first sight! I have been here going on five years, can live anywhere in the WORLD, and can't stand to be away from Medellin for longer than a week! After 5 years I continue to find new places, new girls, an unlimited supply of women! Medellin has the cleanest drinking water in most if not all of South America, the nicest shopping Malls and Discos, it's the cleanest and the prettiest city in Colombia!
You are one wierd dude guy! You claim you have been living in Medellin for 6 years, yet you are sending everyone to Cartagena! If Cartagena is so great why havn't you been living there for the last 6 years instead of Medellin! I wouldn't even bother responding to you if you weren't so blatently misrepresenting the most fun and the most beautiful city in South America! This has nothing to do with my business, you make me angry because of your warped perception of reality or right out misrepresentation! If you think Medellin is so dangerous and so bad, why don't you just leave! I love my city and I will not have someone misrepresent it thus. Go back home Tom, and crawl under the sink where you belong!
Frank Casio!
The tourist zone in Cartagena is the one really safe area in all of Colombia. The airport is in the city in a fairly safe barrio (Crespo). Transport from the airport to the tourist zone is quite safe as well. Cartagena is really the best choice for Colombian newbies. And it is the best choice for people who are a bit nervous about personal safety.
I have been pounding on the problems in Medellín partly because of the people who continue to post about how safe it is here. Today it is not very safe. That doesn't mean that the experienced traveler can't enjoy Medellín if he is careful. However, if he does stupid shit, he is fucked. I know of some people who are leaving the city this summer for the relative safety of the nearby smaller towns like Rionegro.
Poblado, Laureles Estadio, La América, and parts of Belén are the safer parts of Medellín these days. Envigado and Sabaneta, just south of the city, are not very safe.
One reason for the problems is that the heads of the paramilitaries have been jailed. Some were extradited to the US. There is a battle for succession. President Uribe has been calling in reinforcements and the Mayor is putting more police on the streets. The slowing economy hasn't helped, either.
I am hopeful that things will settle down. Medellín is my permanent home, and I have no plans to move. But I cannot predict the future.
I've been to Medellin four times in the last 1 1/2yrs, and have always enjoyed myself, and have never seen anything. But anybody who thinks they can stroll around and act like a jerk, and not think they won't be noticed is kidding themselves. I have always very much respected Tom33's posts, and while I plan to go back to Medellin in July (but only for a few days), I will do what I always do, try and blend in, not go to areas I shouldn't go to, and not kid myself that I am not in Medellin Colombia. Right now, given the economic climate, if the local gang members think there is a buck to be made from an errant gringo, they will certainly try.
Manizales911
05-31-09, 01:12
Hey guy,
You must be from another planet! What in the World is your problem? Why don't you just go away! Are you nuts? I have saved dozens of guys from the dissappointment of Cartagena, and when they get here they thank me for changing their impression of Colombia! There is no comparison between Cartagena when it comes to cleanliness, organization, women, etc. It's like night and day! Cartagena is not a Paradise of beautiful women and flowers! If there are any beautiful women in Cartagena they are from Medellin, and a lot more expensive, it's far from a paradise! It's hot, sticky, the beaches are ugly, no comparison to any tropical island! No where to go for a newbie! You totally misrepresent Medellin!
You are either a total nut, or you have some hidden agenda! I lived in Cartagena, then it was Cali and when I got to Medellin Paradise it was love at first sight! I have been here going on five years, can live anywhere in the WORLD, and can't stand to be away from Medellin for longer than a week! After 5 years I continue to find new places, new girls, an unlimited supply of women! Medellin has the cleanest drinking water in most if not all of South America, the nicest shopping Malls and Discos, it's the cleanest and the prettiest city in Colombia!
You are one wierd dude guy! You claim you have been living in Medellin for 6 years, yet you are sending everyone to Cartagena! If Cartagena is so great why havn't you been living there for the last 6 years instead of Medellin! I wouldn't even bother responding to you if you weren't so blatently misrepresenting the most fun and the most beautiful city in South America! This has nothing to do with my business, you make me angry because of your warped perception of reality or right out misrepresentation! If you think Medellin is so dangerous and so bad, why don't you just leave! I love my city and I will not have someone misrepresent it thus. Go back home Tom, and crawl under the sink where you belong!
Frank Casio!Mr. Casio,
Tom33 was strictly recommending Cartagena from a safety standpoint and nothing else. He has lived in both cities and speaks from an impartial viewpoint unlike yourself whose business would be hurt by an exodus of gringos from Medellin. Tom33 is a very well respected poster here. I and many other mongers on this board have learned a great deal from his wealth of knowledge.
Medellin is a wonderful city and I have had many good times there but right now the violence has been turned up a notch and you fucking know it.
Everyone has a right to to speak their mind and voice an opinion on this board and if you have a problem with that then maybe it is YOU that should "crawl under a sink" or whatever...
Now lets get back to talking about the ladies!!!
Jelly Donut
05-31-09, 01:55
I have always very much respected Tom33's posts,I concur. Tom's been posting on the Colombia thread for years and he has lived in both Cartagena and Medellin, for well more than five years. Just read the history. If he has a hidden agenda, he's been damn slow in springing it on us.
Frank is clearly hard for Medellin. "If there are any beautiful women in Cartagena they are from Medellin" is something I've only heard women from Medellin say before. Shakira herself could be in the room and I figure a true paisa would still trash-talk the costenas. Frank sounds like he's gone native. I think that's great and I'm looking forward to more of his posts which focus on his experiences in Medellin.
Way to much drama! Commen sense should be the rule no matter where you have been or where you are going.!
Way to many. Whiners!
Commen sense. Period!
Sorry Jackson.
SavePros321
05-31-09, 06:11
As a criminal syndicate, which includes paramilitary groups; if you knew the strong ruling hand of your nation (Uribe) would renounce his/her reign, wouldn't you take advantage of the situation to gain more power and support? By overtaking the incoming officials, you would be able to conduct more business (increasing profits) without Government interference. To relinquish power from the incoming administration, you would need to establish fear into the localities, then your Federal Government. This situation is beginning to occur in Colombia and is already happening in Mexico.I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I wonder if Hugo Chavez has anything to do with this? Colombia after all seems to be the only U.S. ally in the region and anyone friendly with America is considered a thorn in his backside. I could see him purposely trying to destabilize the region to take it over. He is friendly with FARC after all, and remember the two countries had a flare up over that killed FARC commander Raul Reyes in where Chavez ordered his troops to amass along the Ven/Colo. border.
I honestly don't think Colombia can count on the U.S. to come to it's aid though because I don't think strengthening relationships with Colombia is on the new administration's agenda as it was with the previous admin.
They definitely cannot count on Brazil.
JazzPlayer
05-31-09, 21:36
Everyone can be famous for five minutes. This journalist missed the point of the threads.
http://colombiareports.com/opinion/89-from-the-editor/4299-dear-sex-tourist-so-sorry-were-scaring-you.html
Chau,
Just thought I'd share a wonderful evening that I had last night. I went to dinner at a friend's house near the aeroparque in Belén. The barrio may have been Las Playas. That part of Belén can be iffy, but I was with friends-all Colombians. There were maybe 15 to 20 people in and out during 3 hours or so. The front door was wide open at all times.
We left around 9:30 pm. The neighborhood was just crawling with people especially hot young ladies. I don't believe that any were hooking, but many may have been open to a little conversation or more. It made me forget for a moment the state of siege. I dearly hope that we can return to sanity soon.
I find it amusing that Frank touts Mayorista and then calls Cartagena ugly. I checked Mayorista out and it is no paradaise, just a city block of short time rooms and bars. I know firsthand the dangers of Medellin and Tom33 is not bullshitting anyone, just telling the truth. I do not need to defend him but I will say that 5 years ago he graciously helped this newbie on his first trip there and invited me to his place for lunch and intel. Unless he did a 360 he has no problems with anyone visiting Medellin.
Frank Casio,
This is the same guy that got booted from the CRT forum for shoving his "My Place on the Good and Cheap" business agenda down everyones throat and attacking anyone that didn't share his point of view.
SrLengua
Everyone can be famous for five minutes. This journalist missed the point of the threads.
http://colombiareports.com/opinion/89-from-the-editor/4299-dear-sex-tourist-so-sorry-were-scaring-you.html
Chau,Jazzplayer,
The silly women you refer to is a man! His article was in relation to the increased traffic to his site from "links on Isg" as you have just posted another one, he will be seeing more traffic and will be encouraged to write more articles on the subject.
I do not read Colombia reports but came across the "link" one of the "anti monger" sites.
SavePros321
06-01-09, 04:42
Everyone can be famous for five minutes. "'Jazzplayer', one of the regular members of the sex forum, advices his fellow sex tourists to choose Cartagena over Medellin, because of the safety."
Hey, congratulations man!!
Everyone can be famous for five minutes. This journalist missed the point of the threads.
http://colombiareports.com/opinion/89-from-the-editor/4299-dear-sex-tourist-so-sorry-were-scaring-you.html
Chau,The journalist is actually guy. Either jelaous, young or just a maricon in general what he writes of course its true, and nothing new, so what is the point? He stresses that people come there for "cheap" sex. So he wanna say that 'expensive' is better? Or why does not he write about some USA druggie who also will suck a dick for $20.
Hi Guys,
I am Adriaan, the guy that wrote the article on Colombia Reports regarding sex tourism in Colombia. If you want, you can comment or ask me to clarify things. I will be happy to stick around here for a day or two and answer questions.
Aussie Greg
06-01-09, 18:39
Yep, its to dangerous here in Medellin, I'm going to Australia !!!!
Aussie Greg.
MiamiHeatLuver
06-01-09, 20:55
Hi Guys,
I am Adriaan, the guy that wrote the article on Colombia Reports regarding sex tourism in Colombia. If you want, you can comment or ask me to clarify things. I will be happy to stick around here for a day or two and answer questions.Is this a respected, accurate form of news media in Colombia? Who is you target market and cliental? Or is this trying to be a prettier version of Q'hubo? lol
Hi Guys,
I am Adriaan, the guy that wrote the article on Colombia Reports regarding sex tourism in Colombia. If you want, you can comment or ask me to clarify things. I will be happy to stick around here for a day or two and answer questions.You stated that prostitution was illegal in Colombia.
It is not.
Wanderer1000
06-01-09, 23:12
Adrian,
"But I suppose that those who think with their dick will never be able to appreciate the real beauty or comprehend the complexity of a country.
I am sorry that, by reading our news, having your little friend sucked for 25 thousand pesos by a girl who is trying to stay alive and feed her family isn't as much fun as it was two years ago."
I didn't know that sex slavery was so common in Colombia. I thought these girls were choosing this line of work.
One of the problems with sanctimonious guys like you, is that there is no mention about what these girls would be doing or how they would be getting their money in their poverty world if it wasn't for prostituting themselves. If it wasn't a choice/option for them, what else will they do? And, there are plenty of girls who choose to work menial jobs instead of choosing this line of work. And if there wasn't a prostitution option, there would be more competition for the already small number of jobs available.
Help us out with this one, please.
Prelude
My friend Jonesie recommended I visit Medellin. When I spotted a good offer, I bought my ticket. I was staying for over 3 weeks, but planned on taking a side trip as well. Jonesie was supposed to join me, so I waited for news from him before making further arrangements.
I was enjoying a sabbatical and wasn’t looking for a job. But the job came looking for me. I was made a lucrative offer, but they wanted me to start working the day before I was supposed to fly to Medellin. I decided to take the job and cancel the Medellin trip. After doing the pre-trip research I’d neglected to do before I bought my plane ticket, Medellin didn’t sound like my kinda town anyway.
When it turned out the job wasn’t as urgent as they made it out to be, the Medellin trip was suddenly back on. Or was it? My preparation was half-assed. I’d cancelled my tentative accommodation reservations. I had issues with my camera equipment on my last trip to Russia and the incompetent pricks at the courier company sent the new gear to the wrong depot.
Even on the day of departure, I still wasn’t sure whether I’d actually be going to Medellin. But I signed my new contract on the way to the airport and got on the plane... minus the new camera gear. :(
Reservations
I’d managed to reinstate my apartment reservation at the last minute. But I didn’t have a reservation for my 1st night in Medellin. Marcy said she had a room available at El Castillo. But there was a 2 night minimum & I couldn’t get a confirmation before I left.
I arrived in Medellin around 10 PM. My luggage arrived on the next flight from Bogotá. That gave me ample time to wander up to the departure lounge and get some cash from the ATM machine.
My phone indicated I was roaming. I even received a welcome message from TIGO... in German. :confused: But when I tried to call the apartment rental agency & El Castillo, I couldn’t get through. “Falto de pago” Nonsense!
A queue of taxis was waiting to drive me into town. But they needed a destination... and I didn’t have one. In the end, I figured my best bet was to go to the apartment for which I had a reservation... for tomorrow. I could always sleep in the lobby! :)
When I explained my situation to the doorman, he called the Mexican American apartment owner, who happened to be staying in his apartment. He turned out to be a great guy. Another apartment of his was available for tonight. It was only 1 block away. It had just been furnished. But it didn’t have electricity yet. :p Oh well. At least, I had a place to bunk down for the night.
The Vista
I wasn’t sleepy, so I sat on the balcony and enjoyed the splendid vista of the Medellin hills as I was having a few smokes. I contemplated going out hunting, but that wasn’t a realistic option under the circumstances. The sun would come up tomorrow...
Loso
Across the Street
The next morning, the apartment owner woke me up. The apartment manager was waiting for me in my new apartment across the street. I had electricity & hot water. I could finally take a shower. :)
A cute cleaning lady showed up a little later. She was signing along to Juanes tunes on my iPod as I continued unpacking. She took hours to get the job done, but left the apartment spick spanking clean.
Triple Locked
I walked over to Pomona supermarket to stock my fridge. I bought so much stuff I needed to take a taxi back. But I couldn’t get into my apartment...
The security-conscious owner equipped the apartment with 3 locks. I was foolish enough to lock all 3. Trying all possible permutations of clockwise & anticlockwise turns, I still couldn’t get the bloody door open. :mad: The security guard wasn’t allowed to leave his post, but he got a handyman to help me. Try as he might, he couldn’t open the door either. When the guard received clearance, he came up to help. After 3 guys tried in vain for an hour, the door miraculously opened.
To improve my chances of being able to open the door by myself, I decided to stick to a single lock in future. :)
Ready for Action
After raiding an ATM machine, topping up my phone & having dinner in Parque Lleras, I was ready for action. But where to go?
From my research, the most appealing P4P option in Medellin was Lindas Chicas. It’s the only casa in Medellin that provides a take-away option. The girls are low mileage, provide a GFE and spend the night. Exactly what I was looking for...
Prado
Since the map showed that Lindas Chicas was very close to Prado metro station, I decided to take the metro. The walk to Poblado station took longer than I thought, though.
Walking along the main street, I quickly spotted some streetwalkers in the Prado area. Many were transvestites, but there were some chicas as well. When I spotted a cutie, our eyes locked. She caught up with me and asked: “Quiera compania?” I was tempted, but replied: “Ahora no”.
There were plenty of people around, and I generally consider crowded areas to be safe. I walked around the neighborhood for quite some time, but still couldn’t find the damn casa. In the end, I had to take a taxi. :o
Lindas Chicas
As I arrived, 2 gorgeous creatures were standing in the doorway. Unfortunately, they were waiting to be chauffeured to a customer.
I was shown a line-up of 6 girls. None of them were stunners, but all were good-looking chicas. Mamasan Nanci expected me to pick a girl. I wanted a chat with her first.
Nanci told me she had a catalogue of 80 girls, but she no longer had a book with pictures to choose your dream date. She always has 6 girls on the premises. Every time a girl is booked for the night, she calls for reinforcements.
I told Nanci I wanted a carinhosa chica for TLN. DFK & BBBJ were a must. She went over to talk to the girls. All were willing. I saw the lineup again and picked a cafe con leche spinner. Apart from being my favorite, Salome Marcela also seemed to be the most simpatica.
We sat down on the sofa and ordered a round of drinks. Salome was French kissing me straight away and seemed thrilled at the prospect of spending the night with me. She asked for 200k COP for TLN. But she didn’t know how much the multa was.
I went over to talk to Nanci. She said the multa was 120k COP. According to my research, it was only supposed to be 75k COP. After conferring with Salome, Nanci agreed to lower the multa and called us a taxi...
Salome
I got my iPod out and taught Salome how to use it; she was soon dancing to her favorite tunes. When she got tired, she switched to singing me Spanish love songs. We spent hours singing & dancing, while exchanging sweet besos. When we got peckish, Salome prepared us a snack of limon chips & salchicha. A perfect GFE!
We hopped in the shower together. After washing her big baby, Salome started sucking my dick in the shower. We cuddled up to get warm in bed. After more passionate kisses, Salome continued the BBBJ.
Her pussy was ticklish, but my tongue still got her ultra-wet. Salome climbed in the saddle and started dancing the rumba on my dick. She kept on going until she was totally out of breath. After a break, I took over and made sweet love to Salome until my juices flowed.
Salome cuddled up to me as we went to sleep around 5.30 AM. She’s studying medical equipment repairs and woke me up at 9 AM because she had to attend her calculus class. :eek: We fucked again, but she was in a hurry and I wasn’t really in the mood after just a few hours of sleep.
Salome really wanted to see me again. She said she’d wake me up at 8 AM next time, so we’d have more time to make love. She meant well, but that wasn’t what I wanted to hear...
Loso
Security is a very important factor.
However Medellín seems to be "the Barcelona of Colombia", I. E. Full of creativity and activity, despite the now rising problems with crime.
I plan to live in Medellín for 5 months. I have only visited Colombia (Bogotá) one week 2006, but I have on the other hand lived in Buenos Aires one year and Arequipa six months, this since September 2005. My general impression is that Medellin stands out in a positive way.
Of course pretty females are interesting, but will my hunger last for 5 months? I have to look at the alternative places, after primarily haven choosen Medellín for it's;
Culture; architechture, art, music, theatre, literature, dances
Female who exceptionally well take care of their looks and dressing
A climate that has given the city the name; The City Of The Eternal Spring
The Metro system; even a person from a small town can then stand the stress in a metropol
Sports; in comparison with BAQ, CGT, BGT, it will be easy to perform there since the temperature and altitude is ok.
A superbig minus must be that the dis-mobilising paramilitaries can't find work and then enters the criminal scen. An unwelcome and huge setback for the peace process in Colombia. But especially bad it is for MDE inhabitants, tourists- and also for me.
Cartagena might be a good alternative. But once determined to travell one have to accept the situation, so it will be Medellín anyway!
Frank Casio
06-02-09, 02:03
Hi Mr. Manizales,
It seems like I´m the only one talking about the ladies at ISG lately ! Are you not reading my Weekly Reports ? As to Cartagena, I have a lot of experience in that area, I traveled there for months at a time, I married a girl from Cartagena (divorced now), stayed mostly in "Bocagrande", would not give it the time of day as a Monguer ! Just because you have one cute Shakira from Barranquilla doesn´t mean that the rest of them are like that ! In Medellin I find beautiful women in every corner eying me and soft flirting. In Cartagena and Barranquilla they hardly look at me because they don´t consider themselves very "hot", so they choose to ignore "good looking guys" like myself, ha,ha,!
My next attempt to move was Cali, and I had to go to 5-6 casas before finding a "hottie" and she was ussually from Medellin ! When I got to "Medellin Paradise", it was love at first sight, dozens of beautiful women in every corner. It was like being at a Model Show every time you walk down the street and every single "casa" has at least 2-3 "cuties" ! The only problem I have in Medellin is in choosing one. You don´t have to be a rocket science to figure it out, just go to the various "Marriage Agencies" and look at the girls by groups, from Cartagena, from Cali and from Medellin ! You don´t have to take my word for it !
As I have stated before, I HAVE MORE BUSINESS THAN I CAN HANDLE ! I HAVE TO TURN GUYS AWAY ALL THE TIME ! This is not about my little My Place in La Mayorista, I´m retired, I don´t need more money ! This is about accuracy ! I´ve posted the first ever pics. of La Mayorista for every one to see, I call it Medellin Paradise, not La Mayorista Paradise ! I take my guys all over, but there are plenty of girls in La Mayorista to make anyone happy ! If you would read my Weekly Reports you wouldn´t have to make up stuff, it´s apparent that I "phuck" girls from all over Medellin, including La Mayorista ! I´ve always said Medellin or La Mayorista is not for the "faint of heart", for guys like Tom and some of you guys !
If I had believed everything everybody told me in the USA about Colombia, including my family, I wouldn´t be enjoying this Medellin Paradise. I have two condos or apartments, maids, a gardner, a handyman and hundreds of women ! Only the super rich could dream of this in the USA ! Tom is just a "scared" guy whose use to living on the "high end" and it´s afraid of anything out of his comfort area ! I offer fun on the "Good-N-Cheap" for the average Joe !
I´ve had dozens of guys stay in La Mayorista and have never had any complaints, never any harrassment reports, never any robbery reports, nothing about any "gringos" being robbed in La Mayorista, I personally have never suffered any of this after 1.5 years there of "phucking" every girl I pleased, I know everybody, everybody knows me, so I really don´t know what all these scare monguers are talking about ! My car has never been touched in La Mayorista, it was robbed in Laureles ! La Mayorista is a very small strip with hundreds of people 24/7, very hard to rob anybody ! The only people in danger now are the "drug traffickers" because there is a little of a turf war since Uribe caught the two "heads" of Envigado as well as Colombia ! But I wrote about this already, about the killing of a "mafia" guy in La Mayorista ! If i here of one attack on a normal citizen or a "gringo" I will be the first to write about it, but since it´s never happenned I can´t write about it nor any of you because it´s never happenned, unlike the "Medellin Mansion", "Parque Lleras" and now Bello with the French guy !
So if you are "faint of heart" just stay home ! I´m not inviting you guys to La Mayorista, but please be truthful, fair and accurate in your reporting ! If you have facts and you can provide the "news article" I will be the first to back your story up ! I have all kinds of guys stay at My Place; old, thin, small, nerdy, eye doctor, accountant types and they have never reported any harrassment by locals to me, so until I have something to report, i can´t make it up ! And by the way I wasn´t "booted" out of CRT, I just realized that it was a waste of time writing about "Medellin Paradise" in a Costa Rica web page where people have a vested interest in Costa Rica tourism ! Since I moved my reports to ISG I´ve had 200% success rate ! I have to congratulate "Jackson" for his "fair" monitoring of the "Medellin Report Thread" !
By the way, I have lots of pics. of "La Mayorista" cuties, thanks to Loso69 who phucked and documented at least a quarter of the cuter ones, but I have to spend all this time responding to this "BS", because these guys know that most guys don´t read very far back, so they start posting all this stuff knowing that most of you will not go too far back for other comments ! Most guys that stay at My Place are true Monguers and they don´t sit around waiting to respond to all these "whiners", which I personally believe they just want "Medellin Paradise" for themselves, or they wouldn´t be here if they thought it was so dangerous ! Your free to believe what you want guys, it will be your loss, as I´m already here and enjoying this Medellin Paradise !
Frank Casio !
Mr. Casio,
Tom33 was strictly recommending Cartagena from a safety standpoint and nothing else. He has lived in both cities and speaks from an impartial viewpoint unlike yourself whose business would be hurt by an exodus of gringos from Medellin. Tom33 is a very well respected poster here. I and many other mongers on this board have learned a great deal from his wealth of knowledge.
Medellin is a wonderful city and I have had many good times there but right now the violence has been turned up a notch and you fucking know it.
Everyone has a right to to speak their mind and voice an opinion on this board and if you have a problem with that then maybe it is YOU that should "crawl under a sink" or whatever...
Now lets get back to talking about the ladies!!!
Yep, its to dangerous here in Medellin, I'm going to Australia !!!!
Aussie Greg.One girl from MDE wrote in her email:
"now there are some fights for power and control between criminal gangs, they are killing themselves and a regular person should not be too worried. For me everything looks pretty much normal".
I guess locals are kinda used to it, so they don't give much shit. I understand that since I've been in a similar situation for years.
And the good news are that the "bad" guys are not after gringos:)
Is this a respected, accurate form of news media in Colombia? Who is you target market and cliental? Or is this trying to be a prettier version of Q'hubo? lolLOL
A bit of both :-) Q'hubo's can be a bit bloody.
Is this a respected, accurate form of news media in Colombia? Who is you target market and cliental? Or is this trying to be a prettier version of Q'hubo? lolBut serious, it's just a website with Colombian news aimed at the average gringo audience.
Hi Guys,
I am Adriaan, the guy that wrote the article on Colombia Reports regarding sex tourism in Colombia. Having your little friend sucked for 25 thousand pesos by a girl ...........Man, you overpaid!!
Suerte!
Polvo
Jelly Donut
06-02-09, 05:03
I am Adriaan...Most gringo men I know are well-exposed to guys who talk a sanctimonious game, but turn out to be hypocrites. It's deep in our culture. So, I'm sure a lot of North American men will read your essay and see right through it.
Interestingly, this is very much like the experience of many of the Colombian women I've met. They know a lot of Colombian guys, in which they have no confidence. I have a feeling you are just as transparent to them.
(If however you are trying to score North American or European girls - they might buy this pandering, nativist journalism. "OMG. He's like straight out of Diarios de Motocicleta!")
Still, I think you should give up smoking cigarettes, as it's bad for your health.
And, all things equal, it would be cool if you took up honest womanizing.
It's a vice worth writing about.
@ Jak,
As I said in the article, poverty is one of the reasons for cheap prostitution. The problem with poverty (and the resulting crime and prostitution) is that there is very little option in poor countries to escape it. Many guys end up in crime, many girls end up in prostitution. You don't think they do it because it has such wonderful career opportunities or that it's a great alternative for going to college, do you? I think it would be hypocrite to pretend you're helping a girl by fucking her for little money. You're just taking advantage of the miserable situation she's in. Which, by the way, is your own business and that of the girl, not mine, but let's not make it nicer than it is.
@ WestFLA,
What I wrote in the article was about things I read here about the violence and I noticed a great deal of ignorance about the violence. You have to admit that most guys that come to Medellin for sex do this to fulfill their personal needs, not because they care about Medellin and wish to improve it. (There's much better ways of helping Colombia than fucking its women I can imagine). Also, my piece was not about perversion at all, because I didn't see much of that here, it was about ignorance that some portrayed. Mind you, I pretty much agree with the rest you said though. Thanks for the response.
@ Tom 33,
You may be right on that one. I assumed it was illegal and just allowed. I may be wrong, because I didn't check.
Anyway, thank you all for the feedback. I won't bore you any longer :-)
Does anyone know if Intercontinental hotel is girl friendly?
Also how much should I expect to pay for taxi from airport to IC hotel? IC hotel to downtown casas? and IC to Mayorista area?
Thanks in advance and any nice casa near by IC with address,name, price would be appreciated.
Do ATM's on airport give you same rate as ones in bank or is it less COP per USD? I am wondering since from my experience with most other ATM's in other countries, airport seems to give you lower return per USD.
CurrymasalaNYC
06-02-09, 06:17
I need a nice one bedroom or two bedroom place in poblado near bodytech or near a good gym. Anyone know of a good place. Is that laureles place (john's place) near a good gym as I need my daily workout.
John Gault
06-02-09, 14:24
That stinking Nanci loves to rip off us off if you let her. 120K take out that when you do not agree She drops to 75K. Also remember how She tried to pad the bill on the drinks we had there.
I must say though the Chicas are top notch and worth the trouble of dealing with Her.
....As I said in the article, ....... I assumed it was illegal and just allowed. I may be wrong, because I didn't check.......Some journalist. No fact checking, and didn't work out the maths of the high end earners. Amateur.
Ciao!
Polvo
Aussie Greg
06-02-09, 18:37
I have been finding all this discussion quiet interesting, I personally think that Colombian's are taking advantage of the westerner's, but thats just my take even if its just for 25,000 pesos.
Enclosed a few foto's of other things to do in Colombia like Aussie Greg's Colombia Tours around the country, enjoy, mostly the foto's are from around Pereria.
Aussie G.
@ Jak,
As I said in the article, poverty is one of the reasons for cheap prostitution. The problem with poverty (and the resulting crime and prostitution) is that there is very little option in poor countries to escape it. Many guys end up in crime, many girls end up in prostitution. You don't think they do it because it has such wonderful career opportunities or that it's a great alternative for going to college, do you? I think it would be hypocrite to pretend you're helping a girl by fucking her for little money. You're just taking advantage of the miserable situation she's in. Which, by the way, is your own business and that of the girl, not mine, but let's not make it nicer than it is.
@ WestFLA,
What I wrote in the article was about things I read here about the violence and I noticed a great deal of ignorance about the violence. You have to admit that most guys that come to Medellin for sex do this to fulfill their personal needs, not because they care about Medellin and wish to improve it. (There's much better ways of helping Colombia than fucking its women I can imagine). Also, my piece was not about perversion at all, because I didn't see much of that here, it was about ignorance that some portrayed. Mind you, I pretty much agree with the rest you said though. Thanks for the response.
@ Tom 33,
You may be right on that one. I assumed it was illegal and just allowed. I may be wrong, because I didn't check.
Anyway, thank you all for the feedback. I won't bore you any longer :-)
Member #3437
06-02-09, 18:53
Adriaan,
Yes most men come to Medellin to fullfill their personal needs just like you wrote that piece to fullfill yours. However, what we find is most customers of the sex industry in Medellin are other colombian men. In addition, most gringos treat the women nice as opposed to the way they are treated by your own. The gringos are a drop in the bucket to the exploitation and misery heaped upon colombian women by colombian men. If you want to write about something, how about some quid pro quo and write about the machismo and disrespect and the subsequent misery caused to your women, about the single mothers who aren't supported by their men, about the children who don't know their fathers, and about the backdoor prostitution (money for sex but not directly) practiced at all levels of colombian society.
......about the backdoor prostitution .....practiced at all levels of colombian society.He will probably think you meant anal!
Suerte!
Polvo
Frank Casio
06-02-09, 21:16
Hi guys,
Like I´ve always said, "If Medellin was Disney World then you would not have to worry about sex tourism"!
Frank casio!
Adriaan,
Yes most men come to Medellin to fullfill their personal needs just like you wrote that piece to fullfill yours. However, what we find is most customers of the sex industry in Medellin are other colombian men. In addition, most gringos treat the women nice as opposed to the way they are treated by your own. The gringos are a drop in the bucket to the exploitation and misery heaped upon colombian women by colombian men. If you want to write about something, how about some quid pro quo and write about the machismo and disrespect and the subsequent misery caused to your women, about the single mothers who aren't supported by their men, about the children who don't know their fathers, and about the backdoor prostitution (money for sex but not directly) practiced at all levels of colombian society.
Two quick questions. I have searched the boards and oddly have not found the answers to these questions.
1. I hear you can go into any pharmacy without a prescription and get Cialis. Is this true, and is it called the same thing? Cost?
2. I am bringing my laptop. Do you need an electrical voltage adapter?
Wanderer1000
06-02-09, 21:57
Adriaan,
You never addressed my question or the issue I raised. Again, unless a girl is a sex slave operating against her will (not sure, but I didn't sense I ever met any in Colombia), it is still her choice.
She may have few options for money when she is uneducated, has a baby, her Colombian boyfriend ran out on her without supporting her and the kid, there is strong competition for the menial jobs that pay 15, 000 to 25, 000 per day if she's lucky, etc. Prostitution is a choice in her poverty world. She can still choose it or not. And if there are no prostitution jobs available, there will be a lot more competition for those menial jobs that would then pay even less.
I was not, or am not, making "it nicer than it is". I am presenting it as ultimately, in this crappy situation, as something that is a lot nicer than how you presented it. She can make as much, if not more money, sucking a gringo (or far more likely a Colombian guy) off as she can working a whole day at some menial job, if she's lucky to get it.
Please address the issue and enlighten us as to where I am wrong in my thinking.
"at Jak,
As I said in the article, poverty is one of the reasons for cheap prostitution. The problem with poverty (and the resulting crime and prostitution) is that there is very little option in poor countries to escape it. Many guys end up in crime, many girls end up in prostitution. You don't think they do it because it has such wonderful career opportunities or that it's a great alternative for going to college, do you? I think it would be hypocrite to pretend you're helping a girl by fucking her for little money. You're just taking advantage of the miserable situation she's in. Which, by the way, is your own business and that of the girl, not mine, but let's not make it nicer than it is."
Hi Guys,
I am Adriaan, the guy that wrote the article on Colombia Reports regarding sex tourism in Colombia. If you want, you can comment or ask me to clarify things. I will be happy to stick around here for a day or two and answer questions.Non sequitur (Latin for "it does not follow"), in formal logic, is an argument where its conclusion does not follow from its premises. In a non sequitur, the conclusion can be either true or false, but the argument is a fallacy because the conclusion does not follow from the premise. Example:
"But I suppose that those who think with their dick will never be able to appreciate the real beauty or comprehend the complexity of a country"
I read the article, I think many folks here are aware that Colombia has problems some of which you articulate, but rather than offer solutions you tried to score cheap points. If every gringo stopped going to Colombia do you think poverty or gang warfare would disappear? do you think prostitution would disappear? Your fight is with the Colombian government my friend, your fight is with the corruption, violence and lack of opportunities that plagues Colombia (indeed many countries) - none of which are brought by Gringos. You would rather attack the consequences (gringos) of the problems rather than adress the causes - your article took the easy way out.
Some journalist. No fact checking, and didn't work out the maths of the high end earners. Amateur.
Ciao!
PolvoIt was an opinion piece. Skip the legality or illegality of prostitution and the point remains. But you're right, no Pulitzer for me this year. Damn.
MiamiHeatLuver
06-03-09, 04:50
Two quick questions. I have searched the boards and oddly have not found the answers to these questions.
1. I hear you can go into any pharmacy without a prescription and get Cialis. Is this true, and is it called the same thing? Cost?
2. I am bringing my laptop. Do you need an electrical voltage adapter?#1 Yes you can get Cialis, better to buy the 4 pack comes out cheaper, It is the genuine Phizer. A 4 pack ranges from 90-110k. NO GENERIC. If you can get generic before coming to Colombia it will work out much better for you $ wise.
#2 No adapter required, but if you are European you might need a circles plug to a lines plug adapter. And then even a 3 hole to 2 hole adapter because alot of plugs in Colombia do not have the 3rd ground slot. But no voltage adapter required!
Listen, if a guy wanted to enjoy the women of Medellin and tour artistic merits of the city, and enjoy time at a gym each day, without hanging out in the noisy nightclubs getting hammered, where would you recommend?
And this may be a dumb question to ask, but how does Medellin compare to Guadalajara?
Legal Tender
06-03-09, 06:05
Hi guys,
Like I´ve always said, "If Medellin was Disney World than you would not have to worry about sex tourism"!
Frank casio!Frank, I've never met you, but have enjoyed your point of view regarding sex tourism in Medellin. But, you don't acknowledge the number of prostitutes in Orlando, FL. The home of Disney World. Women prostitute EVERYWHERE! A persuasive argument can be made that they are all prostitutes. But, that's another forum
The article that our amigo wrote, except for the irrelevant mistake about the illegality, of whor*ing in Colombia struck a cord with me. I think the point of the article is that if one comes to Colombia to merely and singularly enjoy the bodies of these extra ordinary young women, that dude is missing a slice of their lives that can enrich any human being. But, let's be direct: Colombia is known for its flowers, coffee, cocaine, and its women. Doesn't it supply the demand for the "best" prostitutes From Panama to Argentina, and most countries in between?
I didn't perceive Adriaan to be judgmental of mongers. But being a monger doesn't mean an absence of care, compassion, interest and understanding of the reality of the citizens of Colombia. Theirs is a history of systemic violence. A substantial number of these beautiful women chose to make giving pleasure to men "their profession". But, most are not complaining. Sure, they have a Colombian boyfriend that they would rather be fucking, but he can't pay the rent. It's as simple as that! The abuse by the military, paramilitary, leftest rebels. They are the drug lords. Is legendary and they don't hesitate to visit violence on the majority. At the same time that many of the young women of Colombia give their youthful bodies for money, their brothers, and their boyfriends, do whatever they can to make a few pesos. Desperate people do desperate things. Interesting, the Colombians that I know do not victimize themselves. More than once I have heard: "hey, we are Colombian". This shit is their world!
Adriaan Alsema is editor-in-chief of Colombia Reports, and said he would stick around a day or two to respond to comments about his article. I hope he sticks around longer than that, and shares his time and perspective of Medellin. Can anyone really argue that it is as much fun to be blown for 25, 000 as it was two years ago? Colombia is a violent world, and it is getting worse. If there is a God, I hope she helps those people.
CurrymasalaNYC
06-03-09, 06:11
I don't go the gym to pick up chicks haaha! If that was the case I would have no reason to travel to Colombia. I just want a really good gym with aerobic classes good exercise machines etc. A lot of gyms don't have aerobics classes especially abroad but I'm a big fan of them.
Thanks
GringoLoco2
06-03-09, 10:23
Yes you can buy Viagra in any pharmacy.. not sure about cialis but just get the generic cuz it works just as good. You wont need any adapters for your laptop.
Two quick questions. I have searched the boards and oddly have not found the answers to these questions.
1. I hear you can go into any pharmacy without a prescription and get Cialis. Is this true, and is it called the same thing? Cost?
2. I am bringing my laptop. Do you need an electrical voltage adapter?
Two quick questions. I have searched the boards and oddly have not found the answers to these questions.
1. I hear you can go into any pharmacy without a prescription and get Cialis. Is this true, and is it called the same thing? Cost?
2. I am bringing my laptop. Do you need an electrical voltage adapter?1 yes
2 no
Aussie Greg
06-03-09, 15:05
This is probley a good example of Colombian "Paisa" women.
There was a maid at the Mansion, she was earning the minimium wage + benifits and tips, around 1 million - 1 million and a half and up to 2 million, and also gifts, pretty bloody good.
A few guests offered her 150,000 for sex, she took that up and even stole from them, this went on for a month or so then the managment found out and sacked her.
Aussie G.
It was an opinion piece. Skip the legality or illegality of prostitution and the point remains. But you're right, no Pulitzer for me this year. Damn.
Frank Casio
06-03-09, 15:57
Hi Johnny,
You are correct, no prescription needed fo Cialis in Medellin, same name, no generic ! You´ll spend around 90,000cop ($45US) for 4-20mg pills ! You will not need an electrical voltage adapter for your laptop ! Just plug it in and run with it !
Frank Casio !
Two quick questions. I have searched the boards and oddly have not found the answers to these questions.
1. I hear you can go into any pharmacy without a prescription and get Cialis. Is this true, and is it called the same thing? Cost?
2. I am bringing my laptop. Do you need an electrical voltage adapter?
Airassaultp
06-03-09, 17:00
Crimes happen every where you just have to used your common sense Medellin can be dangerous just like any other states in America.
Frank Casio
06-03-09, 18:43
Hi guys,
A few of La Mayorista "cuties" at My Place-part 1 !
Frank Casio !
Frank Casio
06-03-09, 18:50
Hi guys,
A few of La Mayorista "cuties" at My Place-part 2 ! Ten more "cuties" comming soon, don´t turn the channel !
Frank Casio !
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