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No one will confuse Botero Plaza with a Disney theme park, but there is enough uniformed and plain clothes law enforcement there that you are unlikely to have problems if you are minding your own business. Illegal or alternative lifestyle providers are dodgy wherever you decide to get involved with them.
The Fase 2 thing is something I don't understand very well. I get it that there are women of above average attractiveness who are available for the cost of a couple of lap dances at an upscale "gentlemen's club" in Europe or North America. My suspicion is the core clientele are Colombians of strata 5 or 6 with something to prove and foreigners who feel more comfortable in the setting as compared to the casas & street scene. I think it's a bit of the same concept of Loutron, another place I don't understand at its core. It's about me, not about the places or their customers.
OK true if you want to nit pick, but even on Sunday night we had absolutely no trouble locating attractive ones and negotiating them down quite a bit.
The whole Botero area was slimy to me. It was nice to walk around in the day but I can't imagine a scenario where taking one of the street walkers in that area would be a good idea. There were some very rough ones and many traps (both young girls and probable hidden penises).
Yup. Exactly the experience I had there. The prices were American strip club costs, I think it was going to be 160-200 to take one next door. They were very unfriendly. Immediately asked for us to buy them $10 drinks, when we denied they turned into total bitches. This place for me was the only blip on an amazing trip.
Black Page
04-14-17, 21:48
I'm glad I have my friends with benefits. Because it's close to dead out here on the streets. The casa by the bus stop for the airport in El Centro was open for business yesterday but the lineup was weak. I made friends with the guys that run it. Super cool. The lineup there is never that good anyway. Semana Santa bring Medellin to a crawl.
Times like is when you need that network of semi-pro friends.Semana Santa in Colombia is like Eid al Fitr (end of Ramadan) in Indonesia. Everyone stays with family and goes back to hometown.
The whole Botero area was slimy to me. It was nice to walk around in the day but I can't imagine a scenario where taking one of the street walkers in that area would be a good idea. There were some very rough ones and many traps (both young girls and probable hidden penises)..My scenario:
I walked around the block, sometimes had to come back in a bit, found a hot cute 18-20 yo, followed her 1/2 block up to the short term "hotel", gave her 30,000 p (plus a tip), she got naked, we had fun. How does that not work? One of the ones I was with was a solid 8, and fun, kicked myself later for not getting her number. Which she offered but I forgot afterwards. The other ones were 6/7's. Yes they do have some older / fatter ones, just walked by them. Hard to see how it was not worth $10. I had 2 SA dates, 2 strip club dates and a Casa girl for comparison.
Is Linda's Chicas a brothel? I can't find it on the map. I had no idea brothels allowed for takeout.Yes, it is:
*Casa de Piedra, or Lindas Chicas, Calle 58 (Av. Oriental) # 50 a-54, Big White Metal Gate. 6 Chicas on the premises, at certain times, but has up to 100 chicas for you to choose from. Prices: Chica 100 k 1 hour, 80 k room fee, 170 k 2 hours, 100 k exit fee, 200 k chica, 275 k TLN. Hours: Nanci, the owner has a 24/7 operation, in which you can come by anytime and pick one of her 6 chicas or she will call anyone of 100 chicas that are available.
Springtime version of 3 kings day.
Semana Santa in Colombia is like Eid al Fitr (end of Ramadan) in Indonesia. Everyone stays with family and goes back to hometown.
HumanBeing1
04-15-17, 06:02
Are you talking about the ones in front of the liquor store? I spent a week in Medellin back in November and those ones were the only ones I saw. I only learned recently about Club Gusto which I will check out. Around what time do the prepagos come out?We met two who were sitting at a table at a table at the beer store (I think that was the name, bar right off Parque Lleras near Havana). Just two girls sitting at their table with a drink each, me and my friend made eye contact, they invited us over, chatted for a bit (I would say my Spanish is a 4/10 but I can carry a rudimentary conversation) eventually they told us they wanted cash to come back. Ran into a few inside of the Parque later. A couple in front of tropical cocktails. I'd say between 1 and 3 they were out there.
We talk to girls consistently, whether for sale or not. But many of whom we tried to talk to just ended up being hookers. Look closer.
Black Page
04-15-17, 08:39
Yeah I found another hotel about a block or 2 from the Veracruz / botero block that was $8 a night but looked a little rough. LOL.
Hotel Botero Medellin was fine for me, TV / fridge / walk in shower /2 beds / A/C at $26 a night and about several hundred women within a 10 block radius available if you count all the street / casa / strip club girls.
My room.It looks good. Medellin is unbeatable, when we talk about hotel fares, but especially the ratio quality / fare.
I got rates on the order of 80 USD / night at Sheraton. And the service and place are outstanding. Where else in the world on could stay at Sheraton for $80/ night?? (In KL, I can get 90.).
P.S.: Should I repeat?? NO, upper class hotels in Medellin are NEVER girl friendly. (I had to respond a PM on this).
Mr Enternational
04-15-17, 17:20
How does that not work? One of the ones I was with was a solid 8, and fun, kicked myself later for not getting her number. Which she offered but I forgot afterwards. The other ones were 6/7's. Yes they do have some older / fatter ones, just walked by them. Hard to see how it was not worth $10. I had 2 SA dates, 2 strip club dates and a Casa girl for comparison.It does not work because for some guys ambiance is everything. In Nice, France I fucked one chick behind some bushes and another in a parking deck; so for me it is not shit. But I have sent friends to some of my favorite el cheapo spots and they have cursed me out afterwards because they need to fuck on a down comforter surrounded by potpourri wallpaper.
Yes, exactly, you and I are on the same mongering page. I've gotten the same feedback from some of my mates. When I've pressed them about the girls they reluctantly admit the sex was good and the girl attractive, but some of them are bothered by everything that is not the girl.
It does not work because for some guys ambiance is everything. In Nice, France I fucked one chick behind some bushes and another in a parking deck; so for me it is not shit. But I have sent friends to some of my favorite el cheapo spots and they have cursed me out afterwards because they need to fuck on a down comforter surrounded by potpourri wallpaper.
It does not work because for some guys ambiance is everything. In Nice, France I fucked one chick behind some bushes and another in a parking deck; so for me it is not shit. But I have sent friends to some of my favorite el cheapo spots and they have cursed me out afterwards because they need to fuck on a down comforter surrounded by potpourri wallpaper.Still. You could just walk 3 blocks to Hotel Eros and have a hot tub and a steam room etc. I thinking about grabbing two girls next time, hard to beat 2- 20 yo spinners for $20!
Take them to Eros, give them a little more cash and have a very fun hour!
Of course if you just did the circuit once you may not see anything worthwhile, I did multiple visits a day to find the ones I wanted.
YippieKayay
04-15-17, 20:22
We met two who were sitting at a table at a table at the beer store (I think that was the name, bar right off Parque Lleras near Havana). Just two girls sitting at their table with a drink each, me and my friend made eye contact, they invited us over, chatted for a bit (I would say my Spanish is a 4/10 but I can carry a rudimentary conversation) eventually they told us they wanted cash to come back. Ran into a few inside of the Parque later.Thanks for the info. I've actually seen people leave The Beer Store with what appeared to be hookers. Which is bizarre because I got drunk there quite a few times and was never propositioned. One of the waiters, after a few visits, would keep showing me photos of his primas. Which is hilarious given none of them looked a bit like him.
It does not work because for some guys ambiance is everything. In Nice, France I fucked one chick behind some bushes and another in a parking deck; so for me it is not shit. But I have sent friends to some of my favorite el cheapo spots and they have cursed me out afterwards because they need to fuck on a down comforter surrounded by potpourri wallpaper.And actually the upstairs short term hotel they take you to isn't bad at all, clean bed, fan, shower, porno TV. About 10 x better then what Yakusa has. LOL. Now those rooms are literally hell holes.
I am myself both Colombian and US citizen. I am a professional working for the aviation industry and at some point in life I worked in Medellin (1990's) Paisas have always been proud of El Poblado and Parque Lleras, long before gringos discovered this destination and at those times a gringo or a foreigner was rare on this city. Paisas feel extremely offended with gringos (as they call US an European foreigners regardless of their national origin) as they are an essential part of the chain of human commerce in Parque Lleras. Paisas from all estratos have among them one thing in common, they all think that the prepago's in Parque Lleras are the result of the demand by foreign clients. They know from the past that no paisa will venture into offer or ask for sexual services in such a landmark.
Unless foreigners understand that culturally and legally is just not right to be part of the chain of commerce in Parque Lleras, paisas from all walks of life and specially the ones that have lived in El Poblado for generations will do slowly but surely whatever it takes to remove that from that park.
4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.
The girls seemed really unhappy about it, I've never seen so many kind looks in Medellin. It's a $250 loss for the phone, but it's more of a huge inconvenience for the loss of the data and uber ect. I would have bought all three of them phones if they really needed them bad enough to kill for. I probably dropped $1 k over the last two weeks on this road, but I guess I won't be going here again. Not because I'm scared, next time I'll get uber straight from the middle. I will be avoiding this area because it's unprofessional for these businesses to tolerate this type of behavior. In Tijuana, Bangkok, Pattaya, Shenzhen, and everywhere else I was told by many bar owners that pick pockets are around but that anyone who mugged a tourist would be punished. Business owners understand that a one time rip-off of $250 is not worth the loss of tens of thousands in future revenue.
If any of you know the bosses of this area, I'd advise them to interview the people standing around yesterday a 4-15-17 around 5 p, figure out who the boys are, and give them a beating before they do something everyone will regret and kills a tourist in broad daylight. Think about the police crack down that would be caused by that.
YippieKayay
04-16-17, 16:27
Unles foreigners understand that culturally and legally is just not right to be part of the chain of commerce in Parque Lleras, paisas from all walks of life and specially the ones that have lived in El Poblado for generations will do slowly but surely whatever it takes to remove that from that park. If you understand this cultural fact my invitation is to respect the feeling paisas have about Parque Lleras and restrain from use sexual services in that particular place. Is not legal not socially accepted, come on. You are our guests on this country.I saw very little prostitution in and around Parque Lleras when I was there in November. A few women around the liquor stores. A couple of waiters asked if I'd like to meet a girl. That's about it. Based on the reports here I don't think that has changed much.
I've spoken to many Colombians, from Medellin, and from the coast who would say (and I paraphrase): 'I know the foreigner comes here for drugs and women but we have more to offer. ' I understand your sentiment.
I've spoken to many Colombians, from Medellin, and from the coast who would say (and I paraphrase): 'I know the foreigner comes here for drugs and women but we have more to offer. ' I understand your sentiment.I agree with Calboxer. Traveling to Colombia to get hookers out of Lleres is lazy, uninformed, stupid, dangerous, and likely offensive if done openly or in a manner that's cavalier. There are so many places in their city to find sex, why do it in front of them. The girls that are there are basically barrio girls. Would we want to see poor people exchanging sex for money in our cities? I don't think so. Lleres is an upscale mix of bars and restaurants for locals to enjoy. I cannot think of any place or area like Lleres in my country where the addition of poor prostitutes, or any kind of open prostitution, would be tolerated. Maybe in the clubs it can be done discretely but in the open park area is detrimental.
Um, you are all correct but. The fact remains Lleras attracts moneyed foreigners who have little knowledge of the country, and that in turn attracts the barrio girls and other providers looking for those same foreigners. It's up to the Colombian government to decide what if anything it wants to do about it. Options of course include heavy handed enforcement of whatever combination of the participant groups, various diversion programs of the sort are now aimed at ex-FARC guerillas, or ignoring the scene to focus on existential economic problems that plague the region. I am an interested bystander / observer.
I agree with Calboxer. Traveling to Colombia to get hookers out of Lleres is lazy, uninformed, stupid, dangerous, and likely offensive if done openly or in a manner that's cavalier. There are so many places in their city to find sex, why do it in front of them. The girls that are there are basically barrio girls. Would we want to see poor people exchanging sex for money in our cities? I don't think so. Lleres is an upscale mix of bars and restaurants for locals to enjoy. I cannot think of any place or area like Lleres in my country where the addition of poor prostitutes, or any kind of open prostitution, would be tolerated. Maybe in the clubs it can be done discretely but in the open park area is detrimental.
4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.
The girls seemed really unhappy about it, I've never seen so many kind looks in Medellin. It's a $250 loss for the phone, but it's more of a huge inconvenience for the loss of the data and uber ect. I would have bought all three of them phones if they really needed them bad enough to kill for. I probably dropped $1 k over the last two weeks on this road, but I guess I won't be going here again. Not because I'm scared, next time I'll get uber straight from the middle. I will be avoiding this area because it's unprofessional for these businesses to tolerate this type of behavior. In Tijuana, Bangkok, Pattaya, Shenzhen, and everywhere else I was told by many bar owners that pick pockets are around but that anyone who mugged a tourist would be punished. Business owners understand that a one time rip-off of $250 is not worth the loss of tens of thousands in future revenue.
If any of you know the bosses of this area, I'd advise them to interview the people standing around yesterday a 4-15-17 around 5 p, figure out who the boys are, and give them a beating before they do something everyone will regret and kills a tourist in broad daylight. Think about the police crack down that would be caused by that.Ouch, I sat on that corner and used my phone a bunch. That's where I picked up all 4 of my street girlies. I would lean against that big wall and hang and watch the chicas.
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YippieKayay
04-17-17, 00:52
4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.
The girls seemed really unhappy about it, I've never seen so many kind looks in Medellin. It's a $250 loss for the phone, but it's more of a huge inconvenience for the loss of the data and uber ect. I would have bought all three of them phones if they really needed them bad enough to kill for. I'm sorry to hear that. I guess the lesson is stick to the crowds, carry a cheap phone, and only use it inside of stores. I figure it didn't matter. Two weeks of visiting this area someone had you scoped out.
I don't suppose you want to tell us more about the girls and the area?
SpiderRider
04-17-17, 03:06
I am myself both Colombian and US citizen. I am a professional working for the aviation industry and at some point in life I worked in Medellin (1990's) Paisas have always been proud of El Poblado and Parque Lleras, long before gringos discovered this destination and at those times a gringo or a foreigner was rare on this city. Paisas feel extremely offended with gringos (as they call US an european foreigners regardless of their national origin) as they are an essential part of the chain of human commerce in Parque Lleras. Paisas from all estratos have among them one thing in common, they all think that the prepago's in Parque Lleras are the result of the demand by foreign clients. They know from the past that no paisa will venture into offer or ask for sexual services in such a landmark..I find this interesting and appreciate your contribution and insight. I don't like to see Parque Lleras overrun with aggressive working girls and I enjoy it more when the crack downs are in force.
I'm very sorry about what happened. I am relieved you were not physically harmed. In the interest of helping the rest of us avoid this kind of problem, would you please explain what you meant when you said you were "just across the street from the crowd" when it happened? I suspect you mean you were in the area of the corner nearest the back of the museum. The other corners are normally crowded, especially at 5 pm. Maybe the thought was the uber would be able to find you more easily if you were away from the crowd? The advice about Centro safety that you see on this boards that is very helpful is that it is generally safe where there are crowds and unsafe where there are no crowds. Again, in the interest of helping the rest of us avoid what happened to you, what was it you were doing before you called for an uber, and where were you doing it? For some reason I think I am missing part of the story.
4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.
The girls seemed really unhappy about it, I've never seen so many kind looks in Medellin. It's a $250 loss for the phone, but it's more of a huge inconvenience for the loss of the data and uber ect. I would have bought all three of them phones if they really needed them bad enough to kill for. I probably dropped $1 k over the last two weeks on this road, but I guess I won't be going here again. Not because I'm scared, next time I'll get uber straight from the middle. I will be avoiding this area because it's unprofessional for these businesses to tolerate this type of behavior. In Tijuana, Bangkok, Pattaya, Shenzhen, and everywhere else I was told by many bar owners that pick pockets are around but that anyone who mugged a tourist would be punished. Business owners understand that a one time rip-off of $250 is not worth the loss of tens of thousands in future revenue.
If any of you know the bosses of this area, I'd advise them to interview the people standing around yesterday a 4-15-17 around 5 p, figure out who the boys are, and give them a beating before they do something everyone will regret and kills a tourist in broad daylight. Think about the police crack down that would be caused by that.
Here's the 4 corners, which one were you at?
4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.
The girls seemed really unhappy about it, I've never seen so many kind looks in Medellin. It's a $250 loss for the phone, but it's more of a huge inconvenience for the loss of the data and uber ect. I would have bought all three of them phones if they really needed them bad enough to kill for. I probably dropped $1 k over the last two weeks on this road, but I guess I won't be going here again. Not because I'm scared, next time I'll get uber straight from the middle. I will be avoiding this area because it's unprofessional for these businesses to tolerate this type of behavior. In Tijuana, Bangkok, Pattaya, Shenzhen, and everywhere else I was told by many bar owners that pick pockets are around but that anyone who mugged a tourist would be punished. Business owners understand that a one time rip-off of $250 is not worth the loss of tens of thousands in future revenue.
If any of you know the bosses of this area, I'd advise them to interview the people standing around yesterday a 4-15-17 around 5 p, figure out who the boys are, and give them a beating before they do something everyone will regret and kills a tourist in broad daylight. Think about the police crack down that would be caused by that.This area of centro Medellin is called Vera Cruz. It is primarily frequented by both Colombian and foreign clients alike that are looking for very young providers. It is also a pretty sketchy area. You were likely targeted for a combination of reasons. You looked obviously out of place, and the philosophy of 'there are no legitimate victims on the Vera Cruz' applied. Meaning few locals would report a crime that happened there for fear of embarrassment, and few people would feel sorry for a foreigner experiencing a crime there. My advise would be to play in safer areas.
I am myself both Colombian and US citizen. I am a professional working for the aviation industry and at some point in life I worked in Medellin (1990's) Paisas have always been proud of El Poblado and Parque Lleras, long before gringos discovered this destination and at those times a gringo or a foreigner was rare on this city. Paisas feel extremely offended with gringos (as they call US an european foreigners regardless of their national origin) as they are an essential part of the chain of human commerce in Parque Lleras. Paisas from all estratos have among them one thing in common, they all think that the prepago's in Parque Lleras are the result of the demand by foreign clients. They know from the past that no paisa will venture into offer or ask for sexual services in such a landmark..I'd agree with some of these observations. These prepagos are a direct result of tourism in the area. Frankly, I'm quite happy the cops have cleaned up the park recently. Yes, I'm a little embarrassed as a First Worlder that my people are trying to turn Lleras into Coachella, but having a bunch of under the limit working girls and trannies cruising the park for the last year was all too controllable by the local police. At any time, as they finally did recently, they could have swept the park of this menace. They chose instead to allow the low end street scene to take over, and instead target the gringos that interact with them.
C Jack Sparrow
04-17-17, 10:50
They get away with those rip-offs from time to time. The Mamasan told me that all clients are extranjeros that only stay maybe one day to max a week, the majority, 1-3 days, especially during to big fashion expositions and other events that made Lindas Chicas to a extranjero place. Quality is very high though and knowing a good place, safe a lot of frustrating time looking for other places if you are on a work schedule.
The best sex I have have had has often been with amigas. And they have often themselves taken the initiative. Get a few good looking amigas before the trip. They love partying and sex. Demanding nothing, or a tip / propina for "pay a bill", usually 100-150 can occur, but that is more that many girls don't have any money at all.
Kickboxer wrote some time ago that he could be a "wing-man" to take you to all the non-pro places, where the many of the more often English speaking 9's and 10's are, but of course also the male elite.
Medellin is very discreet compared to Cartagena, Panama, Del Rey etc. The word says that in the best clubs in other cities in Colombia, Panama and Costa Rica, even Mexico and L. A. , paisas are hugely over represented.
Stopped by Linda's Chicas around 4:30, no girls told to come back at 7, came back two girls one is busy doing a ST neither are my type. Linda and Nancy tell to wait, so I wait and wait for three hours, linda keeps saying there is a holiday and all the girls are being lazy. Finally one girl shows, very pretty but tons of makeup and strange energy, also her boyfriend is standing nearby glaring at me when no one is looking. (WTF?) Negotiate price of 200,000 per day plus 150,000 for leaving. When we go to leave, they say the girl gets 400,000 per day, I'm shocked, as 750,000 seems crazy high. I change the plan from one week to just one day.
Experience with girl is very strange, stays away from me in room until I sweet talk her and we discuss her partying and makeup tips, but guys without spanish will definitely hit a wall and that is..
C Jack Sparrow
04-17-17, 11:38
I am myself both Colombian and US citizen. I am a professional working for the aviation industry and at some point in life I worked in Medellin (1990's) Paisas have always been proud of El Poblado and Parque Lleras, long before gringos discovered this destination and at those times a gringo or a foreigner was rare on this city. Paisas feel extremely offended with gringos (as they call US an european foreigners regardless of their national origin) as they are an essential part of the chain of human commerce in Parque Lleras. Paisas from all estratos have among them one thing in common, they all think that the prepago's in Parque Lleras are the result of the demand by foreign clients. They know from the past that no paisa will venture into offer or ask for sexual services in such a landmark..It must be a new thing. I have never had any experience of sextrade in Parque Lleras. It's La Zona Rosa, you go there to party. If you want to buy sex or sell sex, there are other places. The remark " Paisas feel extremely offended with gringos in Parque Lleras". I have ever felt that. We have enjoyed restaurants, she suggested on my very first visit, the famous and central located "Al Rojo", and while waiting for her, a Colombian company at the table next to me invited me to chat until she finally shows up (paisas are many things, but you need to learn to wait, often and long frustrating whiles, until you have accepted this cultural pattern, and as a good effect of that is that you generally becomes more patient.) And one was of the persons in that company was a model (real model) moving to work in Madrid and was out for a late dinner with her mother and two men, whom all where surprised that I spoke Castellano and where I came from etc.
I don't like Parque Lleras that much, it's artificial. Maybe from time to time. Paisa-friends also told me that there are so much new rich people in Poblado, with incomes from dubious business, so the once original respected families started to move away, to other barrios, one is St. Theresia in Laureles, to Rio Negro etc.
My experience is that young paisas party with young men, for fun. And more mature people enjoy the restaurants and bars.
4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.CodyGreen,
I'm sad to hear you lost your phone but relieved that you were unharmed. I've lived in Colombia for two years and visited many cities over the years and though its relatively safe, when the violence comes; it comes fast and deadly. Just my experience. The older white guys here who like to monger around Calle 52 & Carrera 53 or the other spots are absolutely out of their minds. I've found another new stunning beauty who will stay with me virtually all day for 150 mil. I can trust her around all my electronics at my apartment. What do you gain by bottom feeding? Just to say you fucked a desperate person for 60 mil in a moldy hotel? And you are in fact putting your life at risk. I've been seeing my share of girls here in Medellin and I always ask them about the street action in El Centro. They look at me like I'm stupid & crazy at the same time to consider going there. The hood and its crack and working girls are for the locals gangstas. If the average monger from this website goes to either place he doesn't belong there and will be treated as such by the locals and he will probably have a really bad experience. So why do that here in Medellin? I have no idea why.
Medellin update part II.
I found Tinder is for girls who want crazy stupid money or try to get naive men to send them money and unfortunately there are mongers who throw money around and enable them. Not in my budget. I use pretty much: photoprepagos.com & co. mileroticos.com. I do spend time searching and weeding out and I've found two regulars who are stunning & sweet and I give them 150 mil for two hours and they will stay longer willingly. But like any monger in Medellin, my "little buddy" runs the show. So I went back to looking for fresh girls and I found what I though was a nice & sweet one. She made me wait for three hours with the usual "estoy en camino" bullshit and then when she said she arrived she wasn't anywhere near my house. She then told me she's in the nearby park, but would answer my whatsapp chat like three minutes late. I live directly off a main street so Helen Keller could find my place. Well, I walked to the park since it is close to me, no chica. I kept messaging her, then I saw a police car arrive at the park. I told her I'm going back to my house and she told me to go back to the park to meet her, she sent me a google map of the park and told me she is there. Well, it was 1:00 am and even though it was Parqe Lleras my Spider-sense told me to go home. I immediately blocked her number from whatsapp. Her ad was legit from photosprepago so perhaps she was coked out or really drunk. Whatever. Total shit experience. However 6 hours earlier I had the nicest time with another chica from the same website. This reminds me of an expression that salesmen live by:
SWSWSWN: Some will, some won't, so what, next!
Got to keep digging and mining through the resources. Even though this is Colombia, a good & sweet girl will not just walk into you in the street, but they are definitely out there.
YippieKayay
04-17-17, 20:21
CodyGreen,
I've been seeing my share of girls here in Medellin and I always ask them about the street action in El Centro. They look at me like I'm stupid & crazy at the same time to consider going there. The hood and its crack and working girls are for the locals gangstas. If the average monger from this website goes to either place he doesn't belong there and will be treated as such by the locals and he will probably have a really bad experience. So why do that here in Medellin? I have no idea why.
The girls weren't the problem according to the poster. It was three glue sniffing punks with knives that wanted his phone and they did it very subtly not to be noticed. We know that much.
I found Tinder is for girls who want crazy stupid money or try to get naive men to send them money and unfortunately there are mongers who throw money around and enable them. Not in my budget. I use pretty much: photoprepagos.com & co. mileroticos.com. I do spend time searching and weeding out and I've found two regulars who are stunning & sweet and I give them 150 mil for two hours and they will stay longer willingly. But like any monger in Medellin, my "little buddy" runs the show. So I went back to looking for fresh girls and I found what I though was a nice & sweet one. She made me wait for three hours with the usual "estoy en camino" bullshit and then when she said she arrived she wasn't anywhere near my house. She then told me she's in the nearby park, but would answer my whatsapp chat like three minutes late. I live directly off a main street so Helen Keller could find my place. Well, I walked to the park since it is close to me, no chica. I kept messaging her, then I saw a police car arrive at the park. I told her I'm going back to my house and she told me to go back to the park to meet her, she sent me a google map of the park and told me she is there. Well, it was 1:00 am and even though it was Parqe Lleras my Spider-sense told me to go home. I immediately blocked her number from whatsapp. Her ad was legit from photosprepago so perhaps she was coked out or really drunk. Whatever. Total shit experience.
I tried those websites in my last trip and it was a disaster with them. Never again.
I ordered this:
https://www.amazon.com/BLU-Studio-X8-HD-Smartphone/dp/B01EYT1URO
$50 a pop. I'm hitting up Veracruz and Raudaln next week when I'm in Colombia. I have no problem handing this over to street punks if they pull shit but still I will only go there between 10 am and 3 pm. I'll post my experience here when I get back.
I don't mean to accuse the gentleman of anything but 1 k dollars over 2 weeks there seems a lot (in the veracruz area). The most you would be paying is 50 k a pop. At two pops a day over 14 days that is 700 k pesos. That's only about 200 USD. How could you be spending 1,000 USD in 2 weeks in veracruz? Something doesn't add up. I sure hope he wasn't throwing money around there because that is going to attract attention.
CodyGreen,
The older white guys here who like to monger around Calle 52 & Carrera 53 or the other spots are absolutely out of their minds. I've found another new stunning beauty who will stay with me virtually all day for 150 mil. I can trust her around all my electronics at my apartment. What do you gain by bottom feeding? Just to say you fucked a desperate person for 60 mil in a moldy hotel? And you are in fact putting your life at risk. I've been seeing my share of girls here in Medellin and I always ask them about the street action in El Centro. They look at me like I'm stupid & crazy at the same time to consider going there. The hood and its crack and working girls are for the locals gangstas. If the average monger from this website goes to either place he doesn't belong there and will be treated as such by the locals and he will probably have a really bad experience. So why do that here in Medellin? I have no idea why.1st, the girls start at 30,000 p, not 60,2nd, some people are on a budget, 3rd, How are these girls any more desperate then other sex workers? They could always try and get a regular job if they wanted & I'd rather give my $ to somebody who really needs it, 4th, "moldy hotel" Have you actually been down there? The place the girls took me was nice and clean and nowhere near as nasty as the low end Casa's like Yakuza. The rooms had clean beds, fans, TV w / porno and showers. If we wanted to spend a arm and a leg on providers we could do that Stateside.
"and he will probably have a really bad experience".
Obvious gringos with lots of cash and no fluent Spanish or street smarts should probably stick to the Mansion, but otherwise I had a fun time down there, all 4 girls were fun.
YMMV.
4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.Slippery slope? Are you high? What does that even mean in the context of getting robbed? And THEY are not the stupid ones in this story.
The girls seemed really unhappy about it, I've never seen so many kind looks in Medellin. It's a $250 loss for the phone, but it's more of a huge inconvenience for the loss of the data and uber ect. I would have bought all three of them phones if they really needed them bad enough to kill for. I probably dropped $1 k over the last two weeks on this road, but I guess I won't be going here again. Not because I'm scared, next time I'll get uber straight from the middle. I will be avoiding this area because it's unprofessional for these businesses to tolerate this type of behavior. In Tijuana, Bangkok, Pattaya, Shenzhen, and everywhere else I was told by many bar owners that pick pockets are around but that anyone who mugged a tourist would be punished. Business owners understand that a one time rip-off of $250 is not worth the loss of tens of thousands in future revenue.Didn't read the warnings or just thought you were too badass to follow them? At least you were smart enough to give it up without resistance. That will keep you alive 99% of the time.
No flashing cash, cell phones, jewelry, etc. You got off easy. The Mansion was made for guys like you.
If any of you know the bosses of this area, I'd advise them to interview the people standing around yesterday a 4-15-17 around 5 p, figure out who the boys are, and give them a beating before they do something everyone will regret and kills a tourist in broad daylight. Think about the police crack down that would be caused by that.This one actually made me laugh out loud. I'm sure they are conducting interviews as I write this.
Why would any business owner care about a dumb gringo getting robbed?
If we wanted to spend a arm and a leg on providers we could do that Stateside.150,000 is an arm and a leg?
I think there's a middle ground between $11 crack-head centro street workers and stateside hookers.
150,000 is an arm and a leg?
I think there's a middle ground between $11 crack-head centro street workers and stateside hookers.That's ones I was with had no apparent substance abuse issues, and I've been around enough US ones to know, I did stay away from the glue huffers but they are pretty obvious.
Different strokes for different folks but 150,000 p will get you 5 Centro girls and if you look around you can find cute clean chicks.
The $1,000 figure and several other things don't add up for me.
The girls weren't the problem according to the poster. It was three glue sniffing punks with knives that wanted his phone and they did it very subtly not to be noticed. We know that much.
I tried those websites in my last trip and it was a disaster with them. Never again.
I ordered this:
https://www.amazon.com/BLU-Studio-X8-HD-Smartphone/dp/B01EYT1URO
$50 a pop. I'm hitting up Veracruz and Raudaln next week when I'm in Colombia. I have no problem handing this over to street punks if they pull shit but still I will only go there between 10 am and 3 pm. I'll post my experience here when I get back.
I don't mean to accuse the gentleman of anything but 1 k dollars over 2 weeks there seems a lot (in the veracruz area). The most you would be paying is 50 k a pop. At two pops a day over 14 days that is 700 k pesos. That's only about 200 USD. How could you be spending 1,000 USD in 2 weeks in veracruz? Something doesn't add up. I sure hope he wasn't throwing money around there because that is going to attract attention.
I don't mean to accuse the gentleman of anything but 1 k dollars over 2 weeks there seems a lot (in the veracruz area). The most you would be paying is 50 k a pop. At two pops a day over 14 days that is 700 k pesos. That's only about 200 USD. How could you be spending 1,000 USD in 2 weeks in veracruz? Something doesn't add up. I sure hope he wasn't throwing money around there because that is going to attract attention.50 X 2 X 14 = 1400. Current exchange rate makes that about $490. That's still quite a ways from $1000, but he may have been spending on things other than chicas.
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/casos-de-muertes-de-extranjeros-en-medellin-BF6340928
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/casos-de-muertes-de-extranjeros-en-medellin-BF6340928"From 2007 to 2017 42 foreigners have been killed in the Aburrá Valley, according to official records. Of the dead, twelve were European, ten American, eight from South America, seven Central Americans, four Asians and one from Oceania (see chart).
According to Carrasquilla, "the main causes of deaths of foreigners, based on preliminary information, are by theft of their belongings and by links, apparently, with the sale of narcotics."
So 10 Americans in 10 years, not to bad for a city of over 3 million. So stay away from narcotic dealings and look poor and give it up if mugged.
Black Page
04-18-17, 23:01
If any of you know the bosses of this area, I'd advise them to interview the people standing around yesterday a 4-15-17 around 5 p, figure out who the boys are, ..........................................What you (and some others who I read writing here some times) seem to not have understood is that you are in Medellin Centro, not in Bangkok. Such things can always happen, although not so common as years ago now. That's the environment. Please don't feel offended, but you are so naif in your advice above. I can only imagine their laughs, if anybody would try that.
Centro is dangerous indeed, in the sense that there is some small probability that the wrong person sees you in the wrong time. You made a mistake bringing with you a smartphone (I always use an old Nokia there), but you behaved correctly when robbered. And you did not try it at night time.
Shit happens. Don't be upset.
The Tall Man
04-19-17, 01:40
What you (and some others who I read writing here some times) seem to not have understood is that you are in Medellin Centro, not in Bangkok. Such things can always happen, although not so common as years ago now. That's the environment. Please don't feel offended, but you are so naif in your advice above. I can only imagine their laughs, if anybody would try that.
Centro is dangerous indeed, in the sense that there is some small probability that the wrong person sees you in the wrong time. You made a mistake bringing with you a smartphone (I always use an old Nokia there), but you behaved correctly when robbered. And you did not try it at night time.
Shit happens. Don't be upset.WARNING. Not only in Centro. Five hours ago I finished my session at ENERGY by the stadium, after exiting and turning right down the front stairs heading to the metro I clearly see, 20 yards in front of me, 3 young early 20's guys walking opposite me, and the one in the middle lifts up his t-shirt and pulls a 9 mm out of his front waist I instinctively ran across the street as in the corner of my eye I see him position back the 9 mm into his waist.
Was he making a move on me, don't know but with only a few others on the sidewalk was not about to hang around.
I grabbed a taxi and got the hell out of there. Mind you this was 2:30 PM in broad day light.
Always be observant and know your surroundings. Don't get complacent. Be safe.
The Tall Man.
P.S. What an incredible experience I session-ed with Ferranda at Energy. Damn, mi dios!
BlueChange
04-19-17, 21:03
WARNING. Not only in Centro. Five hours ago I finished my session at ENERGY by the stadium, after exiting and turning right down the front stairs heading to the metro I clearly see, 20 yards in front of me, 3 young early 20's guys walking opposite me, and the one in the middle lifts up his t-shirt and pulls a 9 mm out of his front waist I instinctively ran across the street as in the corner of my eye I see him position back the 9 mm into his waist.
Was he making a move on me, don't know but with only a few others on the sidewalk was not about to hang around.
I grabbed a taxi and got the hell out of there. Mind you this was 2:30 PM in broad day light.
Always be observant and know your surroundings. Don't get complacent. Be safe.
The Tall Man.
P.S. What an incredible experience I session-ed with Ferranda at Energy. Damn, mi dios!Wow!! And this is MY SPOT and I always go there first. How is the LU?
I feel it lately there has been more heighten presence in the street. Always have to be on your guard. I ususally hate that part at the end of energy in between the ATM. I try to get out of there as fast as possible. Especially when there is that asshole homeless person who is trying to have his own parking garage service in the middle of the lot.
Groups of 3 are always the worst. Stay safe!
Wow!! And this is MY SPOT and I always go there first. How is the LU?
I feel it lately there has been more heighten presence in the street. Always have to be on your guard. I ususally hate that part at the end of energy in between the ATM. I try to get out of there as fast as possible. Especially when there is that asshole homeless person who is trying to have his own parking garage service in the middle of the lot.
Groups of 3 are always the worst. Stay safe!All I can say is he's got some damn good eyes if he can determine that a pistol 60 yards away is a 9 mm. The picture shows an object the size of a gun 16 yards away. What is it?
Instead of running across the street, why not just step back into Energy and call a Uber or taxi? They were probably younger and faster, and I doubt if he could outrun a bullet? Besides, blindly running across a street in Medellin is a good way to end up as a good ornament.
I'm also confused about walking "opposite" of him. That should mean they were across the street walking north while he walked south, or they were on the same side of the street, behind him and walking away. Were they instead walking "towards" him?
If they were walking towards him, why pull out a gun 20 yards away? There's 3 of them. Step up grab him, show him the gun and take what he has.
The story just doesn't seem to make sense.
All I can say is he's got some damn good eyes if he can determine that a pistol 60 yards away is a 9 mm. The picture shows an object the size of a gun 16 yards away. What is it?
Instead of running across the street, why not just step back into Energy and call a Uber or taxi? They were probably younger and faster, and I doubt if he could outrun a bullet? Besides, blindly running across a street in Medellin is a good way to end up as a good ornament.
I'm also confused about walking "opposite" of him. That should mean they were across the street walking north while he walked south, or they were on the same side of the street, behind him and walking away. Were they instead walking "towards" him?
If they were walking towards him, why pull out a gun 20 yards away? There's 3 of them. Step up grab him, show him the gun and take what he has.
The story just doesn't seem to make sense.I assume he is using "9 mm" as a generic term for a semi-automatic black handgun.
Also surprised they would pull it early, making me think maybe he wasn't the intended target, but someone closer was?
All I can say is he's got some damn good eyes if he can determine that a pistol 60 yards away is a 9 mm. The picture shows an object the size of a gun 16 yards away. What is it?
I believe he said 20 yards.
I'm also confused about walking "opposite" of him. That should mean they were across the street walking north while he walked south, or they were on the same side of the street, behind him and walking away. Were they instead walking "towards" him?I took it to mean they were on same side of street walking opposite directions- that is, the trio was walking towards him.
The story just doesn't seem to make sense.I believe the guy had a gun and was repositioning it or showing it to be tough guy. Obviously they were not trying to rob. But if I saw that- and I do believe he saw a gun- I would bolt as well. I imagine he looked before he crossed the road.
There's no reason to question the story, just take it as a warning. There are plenty of people with guns in Medellin.
I believe he said 20 yards.
I took it to mean they were on same side of street walking opposite directions- that is, the trio was walking towards him.
I believe the guy had a gun and was repositioning it or showing it to be tough guy. Obviously they were not trying to rob. But if I saw that- and I do believe he saw a gun- I would bolt as well. I imagine he looked before he crossed the road.
There's no reason to question the story, just take it as a warning. There are plenty of people with guns in Medellin.Typo on my part. I was thinking 60 feet and typed yards.
I'm still baffled how you can determine the caliber of a handgun 20 yards /60 feet away.
I'm also baffled why he would show the gun at all at that distance. The other businesses are open, there are other people around, there are cars on the street, it's broad daylight. Granted, people often do things that make no sense. I guess this is one of those things.
The Tall Man
04-20-17, 13:23
I believe he said 20 yards.
I took it to mean they were on same side of street walking opposite directions- that is, the trio was walking towards him.
I believe the guy had a gun and was repositioning it or showing it to be tough guy. Obviously they were not trying to rob. But if I saw that- and I do believe he saw a gun- I would bolt as well. I imagine he looked before he crossed the road.
There's no reason to question the story, just take it as a warning. There are plenty of people with guns in Medellin.Yes 20 yards walking straight towards me (I was headed to metro and they were headed to the Diamante mall), I just past the ATM, for those that know this area you get it, yes it was a semi-automatic and no I assumed the caliber.
When I jolted across the street it was at a moment between a grouping of cars.
There are guns everywhere, hell my Colombian friend who picked me up at the airport always has his auto-matic in his blacked out bullet proof car.
I cannot make this up if I had to but you know that taxi that I quickly flagged down and got out of the stadium area, WELL that same taxi no more that 8 to 10 ten minutes latter we were rear ended by a Toyota Land Cruiser, both drivers (including my taxi driver) got out and an argument ensued in the middle of a traffic congested calle as to the cost of repairs, well smart me I stayed put in the taxi but ready to bolt as the other driver had a gordo body guard with him in his blacked-out bullet proof Land Cruiser displaying his pistol to my taxi driver to help negotiate the car damage costs, which my taxi driver reluctantly accepted and quickly drove off mad as hell.
Again, the only point is to stay observant, never get complacent, anywhere in this city.
The Tall Man.
El Mechanico
04-20-17, 14:55
I'm also confused about walking "opposite" of him. That should mean they were across the street walking north while he walked south, or they were on the same side of the street, behind him and walking away. Were they instead walking "towards" him?One thing I have noticed on this INTERNATIONAL board, is a lot of the members are not native English speakers so some of the posts I read are just a bit grammatically incorrect or maybe worded a bit different than the way I speak or write. I don't know where TTM is from but I would be willing to bet that it is not from a country whose primary language is English. I commend and applaud these posters as I could imagine how bad my French, German, Dutch (and Spanish) or whatever other language would appear to a native speaker! Just read between the lines and take in the overall intent of the message and it should all make sense.
Just a thought!
El Mechanico.
There are guns everywhere, hell my Colombian friend who picked me up at the airport always has his auto-matic in his blacked out bullet proof car.
I cannot make this up if I had to but you know that taxi that I quickly flagged down and got out of the stadium area, WELL that same taxi no more that 8 to 10 ten minutes latter we were rear ended by a Toyota Land Cruiser, both drivers (including my taxi driver) got out and an argument ensued in the middle of a traffic congested calle as to the cost of repairs, well smart me I stayed put in the taxi but ready to bolt as the other driver had a gordo body guard with him in his blacked-out bullet proof Land Cruiser displaying his pistol to my taxi driver to help negotiate the car damage costs, which my taxi driver reluctantly accepted and quickly drove off mad as hell.Like others, I see red flags in these reports. If your friend told you his car is bullet proof, then I can understand you repeating that here, although I would doubt anyone who told me that. There is no way you can look at a vehicle from the outside and know whether or not it is bullet proof, so your statement about the Land Cruiser is bogus. I think your report is for shock effect. Other than drug related incidents and domestic disputes, how many shootings do you know of in the Medellin area?
Other than drug related incidents and domestic disputes, how many shootings do you know of in the Medellin area?Off topic but I wonder what the average police officer in Colombia would do if they knew a person was carrying a gun. I do not know if there are laws allowing concealed weapons in Colombia but there is at least one video on youtube where police in Rio discovered a gun on someone they pulled over and assassinated him. Talk about lawlessness. He didn't even look dangerous, kind of normal. But they shot him dead. The gun battles between police and criminals in Brazil are legendary.
Sense of security in Colombia is mostly superficial. Even if a lot has changed, nothing has changed. This is a recent documentary and it helps to re-examine, re-evaluate and reconfirm the fact that you are not secure at all.
https://rtd.rt.com/films/escobars-hitman/
I've been here 2 weeks now, living at the south end of Poblado. A few different issues have kept me from venturing out much. The worst is any injury that's taking a while to heal. However, today I decided to tough it out and check out Energy. I'll get to that in a few.
I'm far enough away from Parque Lleras that gringos are a rare sight. From here it's a brisk walk to Centro Comercial Santa Fe. If you have time to kill, that's a good place to hang out. If nothing else just for the eye candy.
A little bit closer to Lleras is CC Oviedo. There are several casas de cambio there if you need to exchange dollars. There's also a nice food court where you can get a full lunch for under 15 k.
The Metro is too convenient not to use, especially if you're going farther than a couple of stops. Just 2,300 pesos and trains come by every 4 or 5 minutes. It can be crowded. Taxis are also everywhere and cheap, but you may have to direct the driver. Taxi from the airport was 65 k.
In 2 weeks I've not paid over 20 k for any meal. About half my meals I'm cooking at home. Restaurant food is almost cheaper than I can cook it.
Now back to Energy. I lost count, but the lineup was about a dozen. Only 2 or 3 really curvy, 4 spinners, 1 tall and thin and the rest in between. I picked a tiny A cup spinner, no tats and cute face. Everything was about what I expected from past reviews. Place was clean with plenty of room.
I remember some reports saying they were collecting the fee before, but I wasn't asked to pay until after. Prices are as advertised.
Overall I'm enjoying Medellin. Not much to complain about yet.
SavePros321
04-23-17, 19:36
Sense of security in Colombia is mostly superficial. Even if a lot has changed, nothing has changed. This is a recent documentary and it helps to re-examine, re-evaluate and reconfirm the fact that you are not secure at all.
https://rtd.rt.com/films/escobars-hitman/Thanks for dropping the link to this. Very interesting. Popeye talks about offing hundreds of police officers and politicians and is walking around Medellin like a superstar. Even making movies!
Popeye talks about offing hundreds of police officers and politicians and is walking around Medellin like a superstar. Even making movies!He must be protected? Life is cheap in Colombia so why would not he have enemies willing to end his life?
He must be protected? Life is cheap in Colombia so why would not he have enemies willing to end his life?Actually he was the victim of an armed robbery late in 2016. I believe he was walking around his nice neighborhood and was victim of the typical 2 guys on a moto robbery. I was down there at the time and read about it in the local newspapers.
I found it somewhat amusing- ironic as his quotes were to the effect of complaining about the violence and lawlessnes in the City.
Thanks for dropping the link to this. Very interesting. Popeye talks about offing hundreds of police officers and politicians and is walking around Medellin like a superstar. Even making movies!It was only for the interview however when he was asked how much would a hit cost today, he replied that it would cost $50 K here (meaning a high estrato area under surveillance) and $1 or a cost of a bullet there (in a troubled or poor area where there is no surveillance or there is a guerilla activity). The lesson is very simple, stay at good areas, and if you don't provoke anyone then you can lessen the chances of a random assault.
Hello mates,
I am planning to visit Medellin in June for few days, now the most important thing, I speak only English! God dam!
Now that is why this, any reference to any girls to can communicate in English. Will be very helpful.
Looking forward to hear from you.
SpiderRider
04-24-17, 21:37
Hello mates,
I am planning to visit Medellin in June for few days, now the most important thing, I speak only English! God dam!
Now that is why this, any reference to any girls to can communicate in English. Will be very helpful.
Looking forward to hear from you.Look. , they think, they emote, they process the world, they speak. In Spanish. , specifically a unique and beautiful, flowery Paisa Spanish, nothing else. And, I for one, hope this never changes.
Sargent 50
04-25-17, 01:50
Who does the best in MDE?
HumanBeing1
04-25-17, 06:17
Who does the best in MDE?Just look up the locations and uber. It'll cost half the price and you can go on your own schedule.
Look. , they think, they emote, they process the world, they speak. In Spanish. , specifically a unique and beautiful, flowery Paisa Spanish, nothing else. And, I for one, hope this never changes.And they all are pretty comfortable using Google Translate on your phone to make the arrangements to transfer pesos from your pocket to their purse for services rendered.
El Mechanico
04-25-17, 14:10
Who does the best in MDE?Use an Uber driver. In December, I went to the Grave, his 'Prison' & the 'safe' house where he was killed for about $20. Very easy!
El Mechanico.
Black Page
04-25-17, 15:16
Who does the best in MDE?(I don't mean to reply specifically to YOU. Mine is more a general comment)
I really don't understand all this hype and big interest for "Pablo Escobar Tours"!
If I go to Chicago, the lasts thing I would be interested to visit would be the places of Al Capone.
If I go to London, I have the British Museum, the V&A Museum, LOTS of incredible things to visit, but I would never waste half day to check the alley of Jack The Ripper.
I never heard about people travelling to USA and spending half day to look for the house of John Dillinger or Jesse James! Plenty of more interesting places to visit.
(I don't mean to reply specifically to YOU. Mine is more a general comment)
I really don't understand all this hype and big interest for "Pablo Escobar Tours"!
If I go to Chicago, the lasts thing I would be interested to visit would be the places of Al Capone.
If I go to London, I have the British Museum, the V&A Museum, LOTS of incredible things to visit, but I would never waste half day to check the alley of Jack The Ripper.
I never heard about people travelling to USA and spending half day to look for the house of John Dillinger or Jesse James! Plenty of more interesting places to visit.Because the impact Escobar had on the country even the world was enormous. He is probably the most known person from Colombia in the world. Al Capone is not the most famous person from USA.
Mr Enternational
04-25-17, 16:50
(I don't mean to reply specifically to YOU. Mine is more a general comment)
I really don't understand all this hype and big interest for "Pablo Escobar Tours"!
If I go to Chicago, the lasts thing I would be interested to visit would be the places of Al Capone.
If I go to London, I have the British Museum, the V&A Museum, LOTS of incredible things to visit, but I would never waste half day to check the alley of Jack The Ripper.
I never heard about people travelling to USA and spending half day to look for the house of John Dillinger or Jesse James! Plenty of more interesting places to visit.But Medellin is not London, New York, or Chicago. Before I go to a new place I look on TripAdvisor under the things to do tab. I think the Escobar tour was one of the top things to do in Medellin. Otherwise I would have never even known about it. And it was very interesting to hear the stories. Of course it was nothing you could not have read beforehand or seen in the documentaries that have been made. Sometimes it is just about saying you were there at the same place as the famous person was.
Before I go to a new place I look on TripAdvisor under the things to do tab. I think the Escobar tour was one of the top things to do in Medellin. Otherwise I would have never even known about it. And it was very interesting to hear the stories. Of course it was nothing you could not have read beforehand or seen in the documentaries that have been made. Sometimes it is just about saying you were there at the same place as the famous person was.And sometimes new travelers do not know the city or how to spend their downtime from the hobby so they look for something to make the trip interesting. I get it. Even at a couple sessions a day it's usually not more than 5 hours of time occupied. And if you are doing strip clubs and casas that's a couple hours by day, few hours by night. Then what? I have one good friend and an acquaintance from a different mongering destination and neither want to visit Medellin because they want more than a chica scene. They are looking for a beach, an outdoor playground. There actually is plenty of adventure available in MDE imo with hang gliding, helicopter rides, day trips, excursions to parks. But it's landlocked and not for everyone. Myself, I am perfectly happy without all the stress and exhaustion that comes with sightseeing, adventures and tours.
YippieKayay
04-25-17, 18:39
Even at a couple sessions a day it's usually not more than 5 hours of time occupied. And if you are doing strip clubs and casas that's a couple hours by day, few hours by night. Then what? I have one good friend and an acquaintance from a different mongering destination and neither want to visit Medellin because they want more than a chica scene.Suggestions:
In Medellin, there's the Museum in centro along with the plaza, and Arvi Park. Those two are actually worth going to. I also advise checking out the night life in Laureles. Think of it as a night away from El Poblado. Outside of Medellin there's Santa Fe de Antioqua, and Jardin. Santa Fe is much easier to get to by car. It's only an hour away. You can even find tours of it offered by tourism companies. Jardin is a bit of a two hour trek. I would only go there if you decide to stay there overnight. There is both paragliding and hang gliding just outside of Medellin. It's about 30 to 45 minutes to get to each and it's pretty cheap.
The trouble is these are all day trips. I'm not aware of anything touristy to do during the night, and the night is when casas close up. That's the biggest downtime for a lot of visitors.
I find the Escobar tours tacky and would never go on them. You can pick up a good book on the subject. No need to check out the man's grave.
I'll be arriving tomorrow night in Medellin. Will post a report when I get back. Have fun and stay safe everyone!
El Mechanico
04-25-17, 19:22
(I don't mean to reply specifically to YOU. Mine is more a general comment)
I really don't understand all this hype and big interest for "Pablo Escobar Tours"!
If I go to Chicago, the lasts thing I would be interested to visit would be the places of Al Capone.
If I go to London, I have the British Museum, the V&A Museum, LOTS of incredible things to visit, but I would never waste half day to check the alley of Jack The Ripper.
I never heard about people travelling to USA and spending half day to look for the house of John Dillinger or Jesse James! Plenty of more interesting places to visit.TEHO!! Like it or not, MDE is associated with Pablo & Pablo is associated with MDE. Neither in a good way. However, some people, myself included, associate the history of MDE to be forever intertwined with Pablo, hence, my Pablo Tour last December. I didn't make a big fuss about it, it certainly was not the only reason I went & I more than likely will not go back on future trips to the MDE. I did it because I was there, with time on my hands & I associate Pablo with MDE. Just as I visited the Panama Canal 2 consecutive days in Dec of '15, I did it because it was there & no place else. I certainly didn't go to PTY just to go to the canal, but while I was there, I went.
According to your theory, anyone who goes to his Finca, Hacienda andápoles, is wasting their time & should do something else to occupy their time.
Did you know that his 'Prison' has been converted into an old folks / nursing home for the poor elderly people of Medellin? All govt. Run at no cost to the residents! I didn't before I went. Hence the advantage of doing a few 1/2 day trips while waiting for the chicas to arrive at the Mansion! Anyway, I'm certainly glad I went, even though I probably won't ever go again. JMHO & again TEHO!!
El Mechanico.
Black Page
04-26-17, 10:23
I read all comments, and some of them strengthened my original opinion, as they demonstrate a very narrow perspective. I will add some gasoline, just for the pleasure to lighten up the dialogue. Bear with me if I will be sharp. Trust me, if you meet me in person I am a kind one.
By the way, imagine the first reason of your trip to Medellin is not meeting local girls but for work, certainly with the pleasant side effect of the spare time at night (my case). Then, you will probably have lots of local acquaintances, not only from strip clubs but also from local companies, universities, whatever above the average level of people. If you had the patience to see at least some of the video report on Popeye, you had plenty of examples of all categories of people in Medellin.
Then, try the following experiments:
1) if you invite out for dinner some pretty local lady, say a young lawyer or professional, tell her that you tried to hit casas that afternoon;.
2) at lunch with your business partners, tell them that you want to take a "Pablo Escobar Tour" and ask advice.
In both cases, you'll get staring eyes and your success chances in your date or business will fall down to zero.
He is probably the most known person from Colombia in the world.
That's a limit of the observer, not of Colombia. Too bad for you. I think that the most famous persons of Colombia are Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Fernando Botero (born in Medellin). I hope you know them better than Escobar. If not, again it's a limit of the observer and of his narrow perspective angle. To know more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Garc%C3%ADa_M%C3%A1rquez
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Botero
Al Capone is not the most famous person from USA.
Are you sure? I heard about Al Capone when I was a kid a primary school, well before hearing the names of JFK, MLK or Michael Jackson (again, I admit it must be a limit of the observer).
The bottom line is: it depends on the observer's perspective.
Suggestions:
Thumbs up.
And sometimes new travelers do not know the city or how to spend their downtime from the hobby .
That's the point. Plenty of information online, however.
But Medellin is not London, New York, or Chicago. Before I go to a new place I look on TripAdvisor under the things to do tab. I think the Escobar tour was one of the top things to do in Medellin.Sure Medellin cannot compare that those mythical cities, I know you know I was trying to pull the paradox.
I think you also agree that using TripAdvisor alone as a "rating agency" for attractions, without adding some personal discernment, is a monumental mistake. TripAdvisor is made by people, and you know "democracy" does imply necessarily selection of the best qualified leaders (fans of The Donald, please bear with me).
I give you an example. Years ago, I travelled to Cuzco, Peru. To choose a good restaurant for the night, I had a look at TripAdvisor, to discover that the No. 1 ranked restaurant in Cuzco was some Australian Pub. One of the most enthusiast comments was by some Aussie guy: "They prepare the burgers EXACTLY as in Melbourne!" Amazing, right? I chose a lower-ranked restaurant, and I was extremely happy with the Peruvian Cuisine, one of the best renowned cuisines from Latin America (say like French or Italian from Europe).
Seeing that TripAdvisor lists Pablo Escobar as one of the main attractions in town confirms the limits of TripAdvisor and of its contributors, not of Colombia and Antioquia.
ChicoBarca
04-26-17, 11:25
Well. Just a small note regarding restaurants in Peru. You will find 2 of the top 10 restaurants in the world in Peru (in Lima tough). So as always before you visit a country, depending on your purpose, read yourself up on what's going on.
Chico.
I read all comments, and some of them strengthened my original opinion, as they demonstrate a very narrow perspective. I will add some gasoline, just for the pleasure to lighten up the dialogue. Bear with me if I will be sharp. Trust me, if you meet me in person I am a kind one.
By the way, imagine the first reason of your trip to Medellin is not meeting local girls but for work, certainly with the pleasant side effect of the spare time at night (my case). Then, you will probably have lots of local acquaintances, not only from strip clubs but also from local companies, universities, whatever above the average level of people. If you had the patience to see at least some of the video report on Popeye, you had plenty of examples of all categories of people in Medellin.
Then, try the following experiments:
1) if you invite out for dinner some pretty local lady, say a young lawyer or professional, tell her that you tried to hit casas that afternoon;.
2) at lunch with your business partners, tell them that you want to take a "Pablo Escobar Tour" and ask advice.
In both cases, you'll get staring eyes and your success chances in your date or business will fall down to zero.
That's a limit of the observer, not of Colombia. Too bad for you. I think that the most famous persons of Colombia are Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Fernando Botero (born in Medellin). I hope you know them better than Escobar. If not, again it's a limit of the observer and of his narrow perspective angle. To know more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Garc%C3%ADa_M%C3%A1rquez
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Botero.
I read all comments, and some of them strengthened my original opinion, as they demonstrate a very narrow perspective. I will add some gasoline, just for the pleasure to lighten up the dialogue. Bear with me if I will be sharp. Trust me, if you meet me in person I am a kind one.
By the way, imagine the first reason of your trip to Medellin is not meeting local girls but for work, certainly with the pleasant side effect of the spare time at night (my case). Then, you will probably have lots of local acquaintances, not only from strip clubs but also from local companies, universities, whatever above the average level of people. If you had the patience to see at least some of the video report on Popeye, you had plenty of examples of all categories of people in Medellin.
Then, try the following experiments:
1) if you invite out for dinner some pretty local lady, say a young lawyer or professional, tell her that you tried to hit casas that afternoon;.
2) at lunch with your business partners, tell them that you want to take a "Pablo Escobar Tour" and ask advice.
In both cases, you'll get staring eyes and your success chances in your date or business will fall down to zero.
That's a limit of the observer, not of Colombia. Too bad for you. I think that the most famous persons of Colombia are Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Fernando Botero (born in Medellin). I hope you know them better than Escobar. If not, again it's a limit of the observer and of his narrow perspective angle. To know more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Garc%C3%ADa_M%C3%A1rquez
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Botero
Are you sure? I heard about Al Capone when I was a kid a primary school, well before hearing the names of JFK, MLK or Michael Jackson (again, I admit it must be a limit of the observer).
The bottom line is: it depends on the observer's perspective.
Thumbs up.
That's the point. Plenty of information online, however.
Sure Medellin cannot compare that those mythical cities, I know you know I was trying to pull the paradox.
I think you also agree that using TripAdvisor alone as a "rating agency" for attractions, without adding some personal discernment, is a monumental mistake. TripAdvisor is made by people, and you know "democracy" does imply necessarily selection of the best qualified leaders (fans of The Donald, please bear with me).
I give you an example. Years ago, I travelled to Cuzco, Peru. To choose a good restaurant for the night, I had a look at TripAdvisor, to discover that the No. 1 ranked restaurant in Cuzco was some Australian Pub. One of the most enthusiast comments was by some Aussie guy: "They prepare the burgers EXACTLY as in Melbourne!" Amazing, right? I chose a lower-ranked restaurant, and I was extremely happy with the Peruvian Cuisine, one of the best renowned cuisines from Latin America (say like French or Italian from Europe).
Seeing that TripAdvisor lists Pablo Escobar as one of the main attractions in town confirms the limits of TripAdvisor and of its contributors, not of Colombia and Antioquia.You're correct. Much of it has to do with perspective. When I first arrived here, my roommate, who is from Bogota, pointed put several places that were supposedly former homes of Escobar associates. She has more interest in Escobar than Medellin natives, because she is from elsewhere.
Depending on where you're from, you have a very different view of other countries, even other cities in your own country. Ask someone from Mississippi about LOS Angeles. Ask someone from the US about Canada. I have family back home who believe I'm dodging bullets and hiding from the cartels.
Things to do unrelated to Escobar, go to the Medellin Castle. For 12 k it's a good way to spend a few hours, it's not far from Parque Lleras in Poblado and the tour is interesting and informative, but you may need a translator. Go to the La America farmers market. Ride the Metro. For 2300 pesos you can ride the whole thing, just switch trains when you reach the end. Get a different view of the whole metropolitan area for under $1. Hit the food courts. You can choose from several restaurants and eat lunch for $4 to $10 including propina. Or spend a few dollars more at LOS Contenadores, a short walk from the Ayura Metro station. $10 to $15 with several excellent choices.
Maybe I'm just getting old, but I can't see spending about $150 per day (airfare, hotel, food) to get as much $30 pussy as possible, and never seeing anything else.
Black Page
04-26-17, 17:31
According to your theory, anyone who goes to his Finca, Hacienda andpoles, is wasting their time & should do something else to occupy their time.Ahemmm, you got my point. :P
Hence the advantage of doing a few 1/2 day trips while waiting for the chicas to arrive at the Mansion!I suggest a few alternative ways to spend half a day to recover a sore dick between girls:
In Medellin:
- a walk and coffee in Sabaneta main square;.
- visit Museo de Antioquia to admire Botero's master pieces.
Outside Medellin:
- a walk and lunch in Santa Fe de Antioquia (bus and cars from Terminal Norte), heart of the Paisa Country.
- admire Guatape and its colored walls, even climb up the Penol stairs, and of course do not miss to have lunch in a place possibly out of main tourist streams.
- get a guided tour to some coffee farm (can't be missed, if you like coffee and understand that Starbucks is not the best the world can offer).
Enjoy.
El riesgo es que te quieras quedar
El Mechanico
04-26-17, 20:46
In Medellin:
- a walk and coffee in Sabaneta main square;.
- visit Museo de Antioquia to admire Botero's master pieces.
Outside Medellin:
- a walk and lunch in Santa Fe de Antioquia (bus and cars from Terminal Norte), heart of the Paisa Country.
- admire Guatape and its colored walls, even climb up the Penol stairs, and of course do not miss to have lunch in a place possibly out of main tourist streams.
- get a guided tour to some coffee farm (can't be missed, if you like coffee and understand that Starbucks is not the best the world can offer).
Enjoy.
El riesgo es que te quieras quedarThank you sir!
El Mechanico.
BlueChange
04-28-17, 22:26
Ok, so there was this paisa who I had before. She was about 20, creative and spoke english. Really really pretty face, thin and we had great chemistry.
Anyway, she comes over after I get in and she is up front she is like "I still want to be with you, be friends but I don't want money" I was sort of shocked. I know we kept in touch and had a good connection. So we boned for a couple hours. It was awesome!!
Anyway, today I took a trip to Energy.
I can tell they are under new management. The mamasan is new. The line up was nice except it took more time then usual. I think her name was Malery or something. Cartoon tits and ass. Looks 22 but is actually 31. She was like half into it but had some hang ups. Like I really pressed for oral natural. She said yes but would check if any pre-cum came up and then would grab an alchol laden tissue and brush it off. It was sort of defeating. Also, no kissing and I couldn't even finish on her massive 34 D tits. All in all she was like. 6/10 but could have been 8/10 if she just played ball. But DAMM her ass is HUGE and she has those lipo abs. I have a lot more in store. Stay tuned!
Mr Enternational
04-28-17, 23:41
her massive 34 D tits.I know chicks with training bras bigger than that.
This place, at least where I'm at in Laureles, is dead. Most Casas will be closed on Monday or will have their bee team working.
Hegemon1984
04-29-17, 15:47
Hey everyone!
Since there isn't a Medellin FAQ, I figured I'd ask here:
So, I'll be heading to Medellin late 2017 by myself. It'll be my first time mongering outside the USA, and I'm pretty damn excited. However, I've got a PornHub account and I really want to submit amateur porn I filmed in Colombia.
Are brothels in Medellin camera friendly? If not, are the street hookers? What'll be the extra cost?
MedellinGringo
04-29-17, 18:05
Hey everyone!
Since there isn't a Medellin FAQ, I figured I'd ask here:
So, I'll be heading to Medellin late 2017 by myself. It'll be my first time mongering outside the USA, and I'm pretty damn excited. However, I've got a PornHub account and I really want to submit amateur porn I filmed in Colombia.
Are brothels in Medellin camera friendly? If not, are the street hookers? What'll be the extra cost?The brothels in Medellin are not camera friendly and since I street hookers are the bottom of the barrel in looks normally I don't go there. I would say it depends on how much glue the happened to sniff that day. Jajaja.
In general the mentally in Medellin is that a chick would rather fuck a guy she doesn't like and have nobody find out about it than have her naked ass filmed while getting pounded for the whole world to see.
But it can be done if you plan on staying awhile and your Spanish is good.
I would start buy getting as many contacts on facebook as I could and just network. If you get lucky you can find a chick that will help you recruit and pay her for every chick she finds for you.
You might start with this photographer in Medellin. He knows a lot of chicks and recently started taking pics of webcam girls in my friends studio and helping to promote them online.
https://www.facebook.com/maxintellstevens?fref=ts
Hegemon1984
04-29-17, 19:02
The brothels in Medellin are not camera friendly and since I street hookers are the bottom of the barrel in looks normally I don't go there. I would say it depends on how much glue the happened to sniff that day. Jajaja.
In general the mentally in Medellin is that a chick would rather fuck a guy she doesn't like and have nobody find out about it than have her naked ass filmed while getting pounded for the whole world to see.
But it can be done if you plan on staying awhile and your Spanish is good.
I would start buy getting as many contacts on facebook as I could and just network. If you get lucky you can find a chick that will help you recruit and pay her for every chick she finds for you.
You might start with this photographer in Medellin. He knows a lot of chicks and recently started taking pics of webcam girls in my friends studio and helping to promote them online.
https://www.facebook.com/maxintellstevens?fref=tsHmm. Damn, I'll only be there a week. If brothels aren't camera friendly, nor are the street hookers in Medellin aren't the prettiest in the bunch. I really don't want to take my chances with Bogota's Santa Dr district (will probably stay at Hotel Tisquesusa), but I may have to.
I read street hookers at Carrerra 15 are sexy compared to many other parts of Bogota.
Hey everyone!
Since there isn't a Medellin FAQ, I figured I'd ask here:
So, I'll be heading to Medellin late 2017 by myself. It'll be my first time mongering outside the USA, and I'm pretty damn excited. However, I've got a PornHub account and I really want to submit amateur porn I filmed in Colombia.
Are brothels in Medellin camera friendly? If not, are the street hookers? What'll be the extra cost?No, brothels in Medellin aren't camera friendly, although it's quite likely if you carry a camera into a brothel you'll meet some friendly people interested in photography shortly after leaving the brothel. Are brothels anywhere in the world camera friendly?
Street hookers are mostly found in the less secure parts of the city, the parts of the city where a gringo with a camera will soon be a gringo without a camera, cell phone or wallet, and in some cases without a pulse.
That doesn't mean you won't be able to find models, but you're more likely to just find trouble.
Finding models won't be easy. There are probably 50 questionable webcam studios in Medellin plus 8 or 10 real webcam studios. The difference being one will take anyone who will get naked and put out for the studio, the others treat the girls the same as hiring any employee. There are ads everywhere. Any girl you're likely to meet knows she can get in front of the camera and make money. Why would she do it for you, unless you're paying good money?
There are many great reasons to come to Colombia, but if your main reason is to get content so you'll get more views on pornhub, you're better off staying home.
GringoLoco66
04-29-17, 19:32
Hey everyone,
I know it can be a hassle to find accommodations that are chica friendly here sometimes. But I have some rooms for rent in my penthouse apartment. It is smack in the middle of El Centro. 50 dollars per night. Which is a great rate for a place like this. This is a 16th floor penthouse with the most spectacular views of Medellin you will find anywhere. We can't keep the girls away. Very easy to get any chick to come up here. And it's close to all the party spots in El Centro. If you have never been here before, or you are a seasoned veteran, you will love it. My roommate and I are happy to show you around and help you find a girl if you need. There is never a shortage of girls in this house. LOL. You get a private bedroom and private bathroom. The common are is available for you to use as well, and has a kitchen, dining room, pool table, a bar, and a big screen TV. You can contact me for more information and pictures of the place. I look forward to meeting you all and sharing my place with you.
BTW Medellin is an excellent place to purchase denim. There is a huge area of discount stores around Mayorista. Quality and prices are incredible.
Hegemon1984
04-29-17, 21:10
Street hookers are mostly found in the less secure parts of the city, the parts of the city where a gringo with a camera will soon be a gringo without a camera, cell phone or wallet, and in some cases without a pulse.Well, I'm half-Filipino / half-White, so I don't look like a gringo, per se. A few acquaintances of mine actually thought I was Mexican! But yeah, I was debating if I should risk staying in Sante Fe district, Bogota at a safe hotel during the day so I can film at short-term hotels and submit my video via PornHub once I return. Anyway, if you have any other suggestions, please let me know.
Hey everyone! Since there isn't a Medellin FAQ, I figured I'd ask here:
So, I'll be heading to Medellin late 2017 by myself. It'll be my first time mongering outside the USA, and I'm pretty damn excited. However, I've got a PornHub account and I really want to submit amateur porn I filmed in Colombia. Are brothels in Medellin camera friendly? If not, are the street hookers? What'll be the extra cost?I recommend you go to Plaza Botero about 22:00 hours (10 PM), because there is just enough twilight left at that time to make filming ideal. Set up your equipment, along with a sandwich board advertising what you are looking for and how much you are willing to pay. Plaza Botero is right by the Museum of Antioquia and the Rafael Uribe Uribe Palace of Culture, so you know you will get higher class, more erudite people passing by, many of whom will speak fluent English. This is in the famous Carabobo neighborhood, Calle 52 and Carrera 51. Any taxista will be happy to take you there. There are several four and five star hotels in this area, so you can take the chicas there for filming sessions as well. Hotel Manzanares would be a good choice.
"If your Spanish is good" How much Spanish do you really need to hold up a handful of bank notes and point a cell phone camera?
To the original poster, use your pornhub account to search for "Colombia" "Brazil" etc. That will be your indication of how much filming you are likely to get done. Many casas display signs prohibiting the use of cameras and cell phones. Those that don't will make their policy clear when you start why our production. Good luck.
The brothels in Medellin are not camera friendly and since I street hookers are the bottom of the barrel in looks normally I don't go there. I would say it depends on how much glue the happened to sniff that day. Jajaja.
In general the mentally in Medellin is that a chick would rather fuck a guy she doesn't like and have nobody find out about it than have her naked ass filmed while getting pounded for the whole world to see.
But it can be done if you plan on staying awhile and your Spanish is good.
I would start buy getting as many contacts on facebook as I could and just network. If you get lucky you can find a chick that will help you recruit and pay her for every chick she finds for you.
You might start with this photographer in Medellin. He knows a lot of chicks and recently started taking pics of webcam girls in my friends studio and helping to promote them online.
https://www.facebook.com/maxintellstevens?fref=ts
Hegemon1984
04-30-17, 01:59
"If your Spanish is good" How much Spanish do you really need to hold up a handful of bank notes and point a cell phone camera?
To the original poster, use your pornhub account to search for "Colombia" "Brazil" etc. That will be your indication of how much filming you are likely to get done. Many casas display signs prohibiting the use of cameras and cell phones. Those that don't will make their policy clear when you start why our production. Good luck.Yeah, I don't speak any Spanish.
Since it appears Medellin brothels aren't privy to recording equipment, I may have to take my chances on Medellin, Bogota, or Cartagena street hookers.
Well, I'm half-Filipino / half-White, so I don't look like a gringo, per se. A few acquaintances of mine actually thought I was Mexican! But yeah, I was debating if I should risk staying in Sante Fe district, Bogota at a safe hotel during the day so I can film at short-term hotels and submit my video via PornHub once I return. Anyway, if you have any other suggestions, please let me know.If you're carrying a camera in Centro or Santa Fe you look like a gringo, a gringo who really doesn't want to keep his camera. If you look like a Mexican, unless your Spanish is perfect, you look like a gringo.
I'm not trying to be insulting. Every year several thousand tourists come here to become victims. Some get their pockets picked, some get scammed, some get robbed and a few get dead. None of them intend to be a victim, but they forget this isn't the US. So they whip out their camera or their $700 cell phone and get introduced to reality.
Both Centro and Santa Fe are safe during the day, right up to the point when you pull out that camera. Unless you venture off the busy streets, then time of day doesn't matter.
Hegemon1984
04-30-17, 02:48
If you're carrying a camera in Centro or Santa Fe you look like a gringo, a gringo who really doesn't want to keep his camera. If you look like a Mexican, unless your Spanish is perfect, you look like a gringo.
I'm not trying to be insulting. Every year several thousand tourists come here to become victims. Some get their pockets picked, some get scammed, some get robbed and a few get dead. None of them intend to be a victim, but they forget this isn't the US. So they whip out their camera or their $700 cell phone and get introduced to reality.
Both Centro and Santa Fe are safe during the day, right up to the point when you pull out that camera. Unless you venture off the busy streets, then time of day doesn't matter.I've actually looked into a secret anti-theft wallet that goes inside your shirt. I've figured crime was relatively common in Santa Fe; hence why I'm going to bring only the cash I need, my ID, condoms and my hidden camera.
I plan to tell the hooker after we find a short-term hotel.
Mr Enternational
04-30-17, 02:51
Many casas display signs prohibiting the use of cameras and cell phones.Me and my friends went into (I think the name is) Mona Lisa. We sat on the couches for the presentation of the girls. I pulled my phone out to send an email or check a message or something and the lady threw me out of there.
At New Life, sometimes the guy wouldn't say anything when I had my phone out waiting for friends to finish and other times he made me put it away.
This place, at least where I'm at in Laureles, is dead. Most Casas will be closed on Monday or will have their bee team working.Thanks for the heads up.
Manizales911
04-30-17, 05:36
If you're carrying a camera in Centro or Santa Fe you look like a gringo, a gringo who really doesn't want to keep his camera. If you look like a Mexican, unless your Spanish is perfect, you look like a gringo.
I'm not trying to be insulting. Every year several thousand tourists come here to become victims. Some get their pockets picked, some get scammed, some get robbed and a few get dead. None of them intend to be a victim, but they forget this isn't the US. So they whip out their camera or their $700 cell phone and get introduced to reality.
Both Centro and Santa Fe are safe during the day, right up to the point when you pull out that camera. Unless you venture off the busy streets, then time of day doesn't matter.I agree 100%.
Black Page
04-30-17, 15:17
No, brothels in Medellin aren't camera friendly, although it's quite likely if you carry a camera into a brothel you'll meet some friendly people interested in photography shortly after leaving the brothel. Are brothels anywhere in the world camera friendly?Ahahah I love your way to explain. 100% true. Spot-on. Well said.
By the way, the guy who wants to bring a camera in brothels, to be able to post videos from Colombia on Pornhub, reminded me the beginnings of the guy who has the web site "My Asian Sex Diary". I don't know how many here do know that.
He started the same way ("hey can I take pictures of you??") then he decided to make it a business.
He lives spending one week here and one week there, rotating hotels among China, Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, and few other countries. His business is to place multiple hidden cams in his room and filming him having sex with the girls he finds in malls, bars, even brothels. No condom, creampie 100% of the times, every night a different girl: make your estimation of the risk for the girls who go with him.
Sometimes he pays extra to girls to get permission to film, I guess he promises it's for personal use, other times girls are totally unaware.
Then, he posts the video on his web site. The registration fee is something like 30 USD / month. He has been earning a lot of money, since several years already. Enough to pay his lifestyle and to save a lot in some tax paradise.
His life is just fucking, eating, sleeping, videoediting, repeat. Every day, even Christmas. This for at least the last 4-5 years.
How did I know about him? This is the interesting part.
One year ago, more or less, he ventured to Batam, Indonesia, which is now like my private or at least favorite playground.
He went with some ugly bar girls, and even she met one of MY BEST FRIENDS there. He lured her to his room, fucked her in various ways, recorded everything with his cam hidden in glasses and in various places of the room (the same hotel where I usually stay) and posted her video on his web site.
In few days, someone downloaded the video from the pay site and posted it public, with all others from Batam. In few days, everyone in Batam was pointing fingers to those girls, included my friend. Even police went to interrogate her, if the shame for her was not enough.
Now, what I wanted to say is that this guy was able to do that and even go back to Batam, without physical consequences for him.
But Colombia is not Indonesia. If that damn guy (MyAsianSexDiary) will try to go to Medellin or Bogota, introduce hidden cameras in a bar of Santa Fe or a casa of Medellin, post the video of the girls, etc. Etc. , even make money on the skin of those poor girls, he might get a bullet in front, not a pat-pat on the shoulder. No shit.
Personally, I wish I will be able to meet him one day, if he comes back to Batam. Be sure I will find enough people to teach him the lesson and how to behave in a civil world.
Black Page
04-30-17, 15:29
I've actually looked into a secret anti-theft wallet that goes inside your shirt. I've figured crime was relatively common in Santa Fe; hence why I'm going to bring only the cash I need, my ID, condoms and my hidden camera.
I plan to tell the hooker after we find a short-term hotel.Prey she's a honest girl. If not, someone will take care of you soon after you finish your job.
Nobody should ever be carrying in their pocket a wallet w ID. CC, cash. Maybe in Poblado by day but otherwise it is not smart. I have a small bi fold wallet(credit card / ID size) that holds a CC, ID and has room for folded bills and wear Goldtoe Canterbury over-the-calf dress socks. My wallet stays in my sock and is completely unnoticeable. I keep enough cash in my pocket to buy simple things or "reward" a thief so he looks no further. If I need more money I go into a bathroom and remove what I need. Even sitting in a restaurant I can remove from my sock and nobody notices because I'm covered by the table. I am never worried about the wallet falling out because that sock literally hugs the wallet and keeps it positioned. If I had to run from danger I could sprint a mile and the wallet would stay put. Never feels too snug or uncomfortable. Just enough to know the wallet is still there.
It might seem like a small detail to some but for this hobby the small wallet and those socks are a key component when I'm out in the streets.
Nobody should ever be carrying in their pocket a wallet w ID. CC, cash. Maybe in Poblado by day but otherwise it is not smart. I have a small bi fold wallet(credit card / ID size) that holds a CC, ID and has room for folded bills and wear Goldtoe Canterbury over-the-calf dress socks. My wallet stays in my sock and is completely unnoticeable. I keep enough cash in my pocket to buy simple things or "reward" a thief so he looks no further. If I need more money I go into a bathroom and remove what I need. Even sitting in a restaurant I can remove from my sock and nobody notices because I'm covered by the table. I am never worried about the wallet falling out because that sock literally hugs the wallet and keeps it positioned. If I had to run from danger I could sprint a mile and the wallet would stay put. Never feels too snug or uncomfortable. Just enough to know the wallet is still there.
It might seem like a small detail to some but for this hobby the small wallet and those socks are a key component when I'm out in the streets.I personally go with a money belt hidden under my pants: (with as you say, some cash in the front pockets for hold-ups).
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I've actually looked into a secret anti-theft wallet that goes inside your shirt. I've figured crime was relatively common in Santa Fe; hence why I'm going to bring only the cash I need, my ID, condoms and my hidden camera.
I plan to tell the hooker after we find a short-term hotel.You've clearly thought of everything. Nothing could possibly go wrong.
I realize this thought has never crossed your mind, but is there any chance that one of the people, telling you it's not a good plan, know what they are talking about? Between them they have accounted for about 15,000 posts on ISG, they've mongered all over the world and have seen just about everything. They've advised and guided greenhorns in dozens of countries. Yet you, with zero experience, so wet behind the ears you don't understand brothels do not allow cameras, think you're smarter.
You don't speak any Spanish, plan to go to areas that are always risky and try to negotiate with people who speak no English. Furthermore you want to do it in an area where you will encounter serious drug users, trannys and under legal age hookers.
If you won't take the free advice, your lesson is going to be very expensive.
For me that's a little extreme. I make a point of avoiding situations that would put me at risk of robbery, but I use my wallet, cash, etc. The same anywhere I go. I never walk around with a passport because it's a pain in the ass to replace it in case of loss or theft. I don't ever want to be in a place where I have to hide my cash in my socks. Life is too short for that. I'm not going to walk around Centro with my annual salary in cash but I don't think twice about carrying amounts I wouldn't miss. I never flash money and I avoid using my phone where other people are not using their phones. So far, so good for many years.
Nobody should ever be carrying in their pocket a wallet w ID. CC, cash. Maybe in Poblado by day but otherwise it is not smart. I have a small bi fold wallet(credit card / ID size) that holds a CC, ID and has room for folded bills and wear Goldtoe Canterbury over-the-calf dress socks. My wallet stays in my sock and is completely unnoticeable. I keep enough cash in my pocket to buy simple things or "reward" a thief so he looks no further. If I need more money I go into a bathroom and remove what I need. Even sitting in a restaurant I can remove from my sock and nobody notices because I'm covered by the table. I am never worried about the wallet falling out because that sock literally hugs the wallet and keeps it positioned. If I had to run from danger I could sprint a mile and the wallet would stay put. Never feels too snug or uncomfortable. Just enough to know the wallet is still there.
It might seem like a small detail to some but for this hobby the small wallet and those socks are a key component when I'm out in the streets.
I think we are being trolled, at least I hope so.
You've clearly thought of everything. Nothing could possibly go wrong.
I realize this thought has never crossed your mind, but is there any chance that one of the people, telling you it's not a good plan, know what they are talking about? Between them they have accounted for about 15,000 posts on ISG, they've mongered all over the world and have seen just about everything. They've advised and guided greenhorns in dozens of countries. Yet you, with zero experience, so wet behind the ears you don't understand brothels do not allow cameras, think you're smarter.
You don't speak any Spanish, plan to go to areas that are always risky and try to negotiate with people who speak no English. Furthermore you want to do it in an area where you will encounter serious drug users, trannys and under legal age hookers.
If you won't take the free advice, your lesson is going to be very expensive.
Please clear some space in your mailbox. Thanks.
Nobody should ever be carrying in their pocket a wallet w ID. CC, cash. Maybe in Poblado by day but otherwise it is not smart. I have a small bi fold wallet(credit card / ID size) that holds a CC, ID and has room for folded bills and wear Goldtoe Canterbury over-the-calf dress socks. My wallet stays in my sock and is completely unnoticeable. I keep enough cash in my pocket to buy simple things or "reward" a thief so he looks no further. If I need more money I go into a bathroom and remove what I need. Even sitting in a restaurant I can remove from my sock and nobody notices because I'm covered by the table. I am never worried about the wallet falling out because that sock literally hugs the wallet and keeps it positioned. If I had to run from danger I could sprint a mile and the wallet would stay put. Never feels too snug or uncomfortable. Just enough to know the wallet is still there.
It might seem like a small detail to some but for this hobby the small wallet and those socks are a key component when I'm out in the streets.I think the socks are a safe place to prevent pickpockets, but not so good in case of robbery. As long as I can remember, I have heard of putting money in your socks. Those who are prone to commit robbery probably have heard that also. I usually carry a little more money than I think I will spend, a copy of my passport, a cellphone, and keys to the apartment. If I am in a crowded area, like the Metro during busy times, I will hook my thumbs in my front pockets. That way, I will know if a hand is trying to go in my pocket. While traveling, I have never been a victim of robbery, but I think I would empty my pockets and allow any searches if I felt eminent danger. And I don't do things to upset the local populace. I am a guest in their country, I have very few rights while there.
Eszpresszo
05-01-17, 15:15
Let me chip in on my experience carrying cash. Someone of one of these forums suggested carrying a money clip instead of a wallet. Turns out, it's a great idea. At home, I carry a wallet with various cards and driver's license inside, but these are unnecessary when abroad and I leave my regular wallet and its contents at home. When I monger, I only carry a money clip on the street.
It's harder to pick a money clip out of your from pocket instead of a wallet. You can also fold up a color photocopy of your passport if you like and keep in the money clip with your credit cards. I carry my US Passport card instead, along with my daily cash allotment and my debit card only if I need to make an ATM withdrawal.
I also have a undergarment money belt to wear "in transit", but I don't carry it around when I get to my destination. It's awkward enough just to access at the airport, much less in a bar or on the street. Once at my destination, I only carry around the cash I plan to spend for the day (or evening) and leave the rest in the safe at the hotel. I also found a plastic case to carry my condoms in. You don't want to be crushing those things, do you? I use a Nintendo Gameboy game case, which you can find on Ebay. Its perfect for a large size condom (or 2) and a little packet of lube thrown in. That goes in the other pocket. I also got one of those plastic "squeeze" coin purses to carry in places like Thailand, where specific coins are important to keep handy. Maybe not such a concern in Colombia, where small denomination coins don't buy squat. But, it sure helped to organize coins for when you are using a public toilet or "baht bus" in Pattaya. So consider getting one of those in places where coins are actually useful to the monger.
Dick Hertz
05-02-17, 03:42
There are companies that specialize in travel clothing. Shirts and pants with zippers and pockets inside of pockets. Also hidden pockets to keep your money. Just do a google search and you will find many options.
It's off topic but I can't help thinking about the waist to thigh condoms I read about on this website, and only on this web site. A kind of rubber underwear that defies practical use.
There are companies that specialize in travel clothing. Shirts and pants with zippers and pockets inside of pockets. Also hidden pockets to keep your money. Just do a google search and you will find many options.
Husker Dude
05-02-17, 04:13
There are companies that specialize in travel clothing. Shirts and pants with zippers and pockets inside of pockets. Also hidden pockets to keep your money. Just do a google search and you will find many options.Check out Clothing Arts. I have 3 pairs of their pick pocket proof pants. They are expensive, but well worth it. Pockets have triple protection. Button, zipper, and inside hidden zipper too.
I'm an experienced in all things about Medellin, if you need help, information or just to hang out and party leave me a message for directions.
Let me chip in on my experience carrying cash. Someone of one of these forums suggested carrying a money clip instead of a wallet. Turns out, it's a great idea. At home, I carry a wallet with various cards and driver's license inside, but these are unnecessary when abroad and I leave my regular wallet and its contents at home. When I monger, I only carry a money clip on the street.
It's harder to pick a money clip out of your from pocket instead of a wallet. You can also fold up a color photocopy of your passport if you like and keep in the money clip with your credit cards. I carry my US Passport card instead, along with my daily cash allotment and my debit card only if I need to make an ATM withdrawal.You forgot to mention the most important reason to carry a money clip. When someone confronts you with a weapon and demands your money all you need to do is, well... give them your money.
I started carrying a money clip a long time ago when I was living in NYC. A good friend of mine was mugged. They confronted him with a weapon and asked for his money. He wasn't so concerned about his money but he didn't want to give them everything else in his wallet, where he kept his money. He ended up in the hospital.
And people think Medellin is dangerous.
You don't need a money clip not to keep your money in your wallet. My money is in my right front pocket and my wallet is in my left front pocket, unless they aren't. I like to carry a roll of dimes in my right front pocket if I am in a shaky area.
SavePros321
05-03-17, 00:19
I'm an experienced in all things about Medellin, if you need help, information or just to hang out and party leave me a message for directions.
I am in Medellin now with others if someone needs help making connections or just to have fun. PM me, about yourself and what you are looking for.
We will still be meeting for the party. Anyone in Medellin these next few weeks send me your whatsapp number. If you need help with Spanish, dance lessons LOL, the scene, casas, strip clubs, let me know. Happy mongering. Gentlemen.Colombian Jake, back from the dead, hahaha. Or is it Medellin Paisa (Noah Goldberg) this time?
Man, you guys will never learn.
Colombian Jake, back from the dead, hahaha. Or is it Medellin Paisa (Noah Goldberg) this time?
Man, you guys will never learn....It seems odd to want strangers to stay at your apartment. I realize most of us are otherwise decent people when not mongering but I would neither invite strangers from a working girl forum to stay in my home nor would I stay with someone who would welcome me sight unseen without recommendation from a credible mutual friend.
I think I missed the part where anyone invited strangers to stay at their apartment but I agree it would seem odd. On the other hand. Airbnb.
It seems odd to want strangers to stay at your apartment. I realize most of us are otherwise decent people when not mongering but I would neither invite strangers from a working girl forum to stay in my home nor would I stay with someone who would welcome me sight unseen without recommendation from a credible mutual friend.
I think I missed the part where anyone invited strangers to stay at their apartment but I agree it would seem odd. On the other hand. Airbnb.I see that. I could have sworn I saw an offer to stay in a room at their apartment for $50 a night. Maybe a post was edited?
I see that. I could have sworn I saw an offer to stay in a room at their apartment for $50 a night. Maybe a post was edited?You did. It's 3 pages back now.
YippieKayay
05-03-17, 17:42
Quick mid trip report:
If you are looking for fat Brazilian like ass hit up chicas punto. 30 k for a half hour. 60 k for an hour. Very nice fat asses here. Not so much for flacitas. I highly recommend Sarah she even offers anal at a steep price (200 k tip). All covered sex. BBJ was 50 k. But damn she knows how to suck cock.
Club Gusto is a hive of prepagos. Even Wednesday night when it was dead at least a dozen prepagos sitting at the bar. Go to one of the balconeys for quieter conversation.
Don't get ripped off. They will all go for 200 or 250 k at most. I saw some girls trying to get 600 k from tourists who didn't know better. I got the girl down to 250 k within a couple of minutes. I could give a fuck if I wasn't minding my business. The two Brits thanked me.
Probably could go cheaper.
All the prepagos who deal with extranjeros exclusively look for the magical 100 USD which is at about to 280 k now. Doesn't matter what your fucking game is like that's the number they think is fair. So if it is early in the night and busy expect her to hold out. Best to seal the deal a couple of hours before closing time.
Mayorista was a hive of scum and villainy. Atrocious service. Hooker warned me not to stick around or I could get robbed.
I did some rounds of Vera Cruz during the day last week but it was fucking 30 see outside at noon. Too hot. Very dusty as a result so I didn't pull. Some hotties on the street. If you don't speak Spanish and can't blend in do not go there.
My routine was morning Chica Punto, lunch, Chica Punto again, then at night Club Gusto. Tried other casas too which I will write about later but this is where I shot my load.
Parque Lleras has lots of hookers around late at night. I would say about a dozen. They will go join the prepagos in the clubs or get your attention when you walk around. Especially if your white like my buddy.
Parque Lleras hookers come and go with cycles depending on when the cops crack down on things. This explains Club Gusto and other high end clubs bringing in the prepagos.
One last thing. Don't go to Centro on a Sunday. Foot traffic is dead. I ubered to and taxied from the mall with chicas punto. Did not feel remotely safe walking around.
Sunday was extra deserted because of the May Day (international workers day) holiday on Monday. It's usually quieter on Sundays in general but not as much as last Sunday. You will find the nearby Plaza Botero extra busy on holiday weekends like last weekend. Calle 54 where chicas punto is located is not especially dangerous but shit happens.
Quick mid trip report:
If you are looking for fat Brazilian like ass hit up chicas punto. 30 k for a half hour. 60 k for an hour. Very nice fat asses here. Not so much for flacitas. I highly recommend Sarah she even offers anal at a steep price (200 k tip). All covered sex. BBJ was 50 k. But damn she knows how to suck cock.
Club Gusto is a hive of prepagos. Even Wednesday night when it was dead at least a dozen prepagos sitting at the bar. Go to one of the balconeys for quieter conversation.
Don't get ripped off. They will all go for 200 or 250 k at most. I saw some girls trying to get 600 k from tourists who didn't know better. I got the girl down to 250 k within a couple of minutes. I could give a fuck if I wasn't minding my business. The two Brits thanked me.
Probably could go cheaper.
All the prepagos who deal with extranjeros exclusively look for the magical 100 USD which is at about to 280 k now. Doesn't matter what your fucking game is like that's the number they think is fair. So if it is early in the night and busy expect her to hold out. Best to seal the deal a couple of hours before closing time..
OK, so no thanks to that offer. You were right, Colombia Jake 2.0.
I see that. I could have sworn I saw an offer to stay in a room at their apartment for $50 a night. Maybe a post was edited?
The Tall Man
05-03-17, 17:59
Preface. The Tall Man has been in Colombia for the better part of the past month with most time spent in Medellin. I am here now in my private house in the northern area. All told this is my, give or take, 12th travel and stay in Medellin in the past 8 or 9 years so I have a decent understanding of both the P4 P and non-pro nuances with respects to the Paisa culture. What you see here is simply my opinion, observations and experiences of this latest trip, so keep the trolls and haters out.
As I look at the 66 Whatsapp connections on my cell, yes all but a few of these 66 connections were obtained and developed from the below in the PAST MONTH before my arrival and into the visit. You must have Whatsapp to navigate. This all takes a great deal of time and effort.
Facebook I started a month before my visit and got connected to a handful of prepagos and had them at the ready however, on second thought after I arrived, my other connections proved a lot of fun and besides my personality is just not into the hard core prepago girls which 100% of the facebook girls are no exceptions, just too much silicone enhanced fake ness that for me is a turn off. IMHO, so I never followed through with any facebook prepagos.
Colombian cupid Again I started a good 5 to 6 weeks before my arrival. It takes a lot of time and effort but weeded through literally hundreds of interests. IMHO if any Paisa is under 30 years of age and decent looking she is looking for P4 P action, guaranteed. I ended up meeting 4 that I met on CC and developed a friendly relationship with, 3 ended in sex. Too many details about strategy and costs and experiences of what works but let me say that this could be a great source for both non-pro and prepagos BUT be ready to put in a massive amount of time as it takes a lot of effort and time so that the non-pros get comfortable to meet. The prepagos that you meet will be and are very direct.
Seeking arrangements Got a one month subscription 3 weeks before my arrival and ended up meeting with one 22 yo university student. She was the proverbial girl next door and had such a innocence to her that drew me to her instead of the other 6 or 7 that I had connected with and got their Whatsapp and talked with them. A bit of drama with the one non-pro that I met and enjoed sex with. I wanted to try this avenue but don't know if I would subscribe again as100% of these prepagos (they all are prepagos) on SA can be found on either CC or http://photoprepagos.com/ or http://mileroticos.com/ discussed below.
Strip Clubs The first time at Fase Dos on a Saturday night. Much has been written so will not bore everyone. My opinion based on the few hours that I spent here on a very busy weekend night, the majority of Paisas were 6/7's with a handful of 7/8's and maybe 2 9's and no dimes. I was not impressed and see no need to return.
Casas As I typically do, I visited, should say frequented both Energy & New Energy as these both have provided consistent fun for me over the past 5 or 6 years and all my visits on this trip did not disappoint. Much is been said and written about the casas in Medellin and these are always my go-to back up. Three word about casas: reasonable, consistent and convenient.
Special mention to both http://photoprepagos.com/ or http://mileroticos.com/ As I spent some considerable time and effort and found a about 5 sweethearts both in call (stadium area) and out call (3 outcalls total) to my house.
Many more details but not enough time so if anyone has a specific question send me a PM or ask here.
TTM.
Did you check out the Raudal area also or just VeraCruz?
Quick mid trip report:
If you are looking for fat Brazilian like ass hit up chicas punto. 30 k for a half hour. 60 k for an hour. Very nice fat asses here. Not so much for flacitas. I highly recommend Sarah she even offers anal at a steep price (200 k tip). All covered sex. BBJ was 50 k. But damn she knows how to suck cock.
Club Gusto is a hive of prepagos. Even Wednesday night when it was dead at least a dozen prepagos sitting at the bar. Go to one of the balconeys for quieter conversation.
Don't get ripped off. They will all go for 200 or 250 k at most. I saw some girls trying to get 600 k from tourists who didn't know better. I got the girl down to 250 k within a couple of minutes. I could give a fuck if I wasn't minding my business. The two Brits thanked me.
Probably could go cheaper.
All the prepagos who deal with extranjeros exclusively look for the magical 100 USD which is at about to 280 k now. Doesn't matter what your fucking game is like that's the number they think is fair. So if it is early in the night and busy expect her to hold out. Best to seal the deal a couple of hours before closing time.
Mayorista was a hive of scum and villainy. Atrocious service. Hooker warned me not to stick around or I could get robbed..
YippieKayay
05-04-17, 18:44
Did you check out the Raudal area also or just VeraCruz?Just Vera Cruz. Raudal is as you know further north. I did go to the Hotel de Balcones Cubano and it was about as north as Raudal. There were at least two other corners with hookers in hooker outfits but that area looked like it was seriously out of Judge Dredd. I would not go there alone under any circumstances. That made me not check out Raudal.
There was an interesting sight at Mayorista. There was this chubby white gringo with what appeared to be perfect white hair. He had reflective glasses on. He looked too young to have so much white hair. He was with three locals and a bucket of local beer. Honestly it looked off. Like he was some under cover cop pretending to be drunk. He did not look old enough to have white hair. It really looked like a disguise.
Anyway I found the best ass in Cartagena and negotiated for a daily rate of 400. Bareback. The only catch is she has a kid and needs to go see him every day for a few hours. The only thing keeping me staying in bed all day with her.
Yeah like I said, I did 5 laps a day of VeraCruz but the Raudal area seemed more dangerous to me, I did one lap and hauled ass out of there, did not seem a cool place for a lone gringo to wander.
YMMV.
Just Vera Cruz. Raudal is as you know further north. I did go to the Hotel de Balcones Cubano and it was about as north as Raudal. There were at least two other corners with hookers in hooker outfits but that area looked like it was seriously out of Judge Dredd. I would not go there alone under any circumstances. That made me not check out Raudal.
There was an interesting sight at Mayorista. There was this chubby white gringo with what appeared to be perfect white hair. He had reflective glasses on. He looked too young to have so much white hair. He was with three locals and a bucket of local beer. Honestly it looked off. Like he was some under cover cop pretending to be drunk. He did not look old enough to have white hair. It really looked like a disguise.
Anyway I found the best ass in Cartagena and negotiated for a daily rate of 400. Bareback. The only catch is she has a kid and needs to go see him every day for a few hours. The only thing keeping me staying in bed all day with her.
Yeah like I said, I did 5 laps a day of VeraCruz but the Raudal area seemed more dangerous to me, I did one lap and hauled ass out of there, did not seem a cool place for a lone gringo to wander.
YMMV.So where exactly is the Raudal area in relationship to the Vera Cruz Church. Can you provide the cross streets and / or landmarks describing the location.
Your statement that the Raudal area seems more dangerous to you than the area around the Vera Cruz church has me wanting to check this place out. I hope your not referring to the area with all the hard core drug addicts laying in the middle of the road on the way to Minorista from the Avenida de la grief area.
Anyways the location of the Raudal area would be appreciated.
BlueChange
05-05-17, 16:49
So, Stared off wirth a girl who was a pro with me and she is now bascially my GF. No money being exchanged she doesn't want it. I go to her house etc we are cool.
WEIRD, I walked past parque poblado, police stops me and asks to see my ID, puts it in his police app thingie. The thing is I have no choice, I am in their country and I understand the job. Good part is, it was a local ID and not my passport so no international numbers to run.
An old reliable that I have seen for a couple years, she text me that she thinks I am a liar every time I come and then just blocked me on all my whatsapp and IG. I think she was upset that I tried to see her when my flight came and I flaked but I guess she felt she had enough. She said she wasn't even mad just didn't want to connect with me anymore. Oh well, sort of sucks cause she had a really really pretty face and huge tits. Our sex was very intense like boyfirend and girlfirend. So my ego is a little damaged that a pro bascially "broke up" with me. 0 Mil.
I saw this other chick I banged before. Fake everything, her lips are soo full of collagen that when we kiss I can barely get to her tongue! She is cool, I actually didn't bring enough money because the uber driver picked up the wrong person and half way through realized it wasn't me. I took only enough cash. So we banged and she knew me and was cool enough to let me go to the ATM and come back to her apartment. (trust with a colombian and money is a rare thing so props) Oh side note, despite all her fake tits, ass and lips she actually fucks like a real person, none of this robot shit which is typical of a frakenstein girl. 150 MIL.
There was this really really pretty Venezuelan I have been wanting to bang for some time. I kept seeing her ad and I stayed in touch. She was out of town in bogata and Cartegena. My luck turned around and she got to medellin yesterday! I saw her first thing.
Her face is like that Venezuelan angel face. It reminds me of this girl I have been wanting to fuck so this is why I want this one so bad. She was a bit thicker then I though she would be in person but, none the less still very pretty. Her english was ok and she learned it all from watching TV. Huge fake tits, big nartural round ass. She could go to the gym but that face really sets me off. She was a semi robot at first and for a propina it was oral naturale. (which BTW the oral naturale upset has been running ramant) 130 mil + 40 Mil tip.
Oh and to top if off, this other girl who I have been in contact with since 2014, and on and off she is soo bi-polar she would either block me or unblock me or run away. Anway, FINALLY randomly I text her, she says she will come over and be in my house in 20 min. She asked me to order food and make sure there is alcohol. She comes over, she has huge natural tits, red hair, pettite, and speaks with a cute accent. Her english isn't too bad, and my spanish passable. We have spanglish convos. She si very very bubbly in person. Food is all weird getting here and we order from another place. In the meantime she is drinking vodka on an empty stomach. And smoking weed. She is on the balcony, gives me a kiss then backs off. We go back and fourth, a little kissing then "no" she does to me. She says she is starting to feel sick, she lays on my bed. Her stomach is fucked up, food arrives, she eats a bit of this really gross looking burger. Then goes to the bathroom and yacks in my sink. She says she can only yack in sinks. Great. She lays back down, cleans herself up. I get her an extra toothbrush and make her brush her teeth. She starts to feel semi sick and semi ok. I back off, this makes her want me more. She reaches for my hand on the bed. I start to wander, I test the waters and go for a little touch of her clit on the outside. She doesn't push me away. I proceed and get her pants off, her pussy is wetter then the pacific ocean! We don't bone, she grabs my dick and gives me an awesome handjob and I bust on her huge DD natural tits. The real bi polar part happeneds after. She starts this INSANE giggle fest. She starts getting the giggles. She says my ears are soft and likes soft ears because her ears are hard. Then she says it is like a lollipop ears. Holy fuck, she has uncontrolable laughter for 15 minutes non stop. Fuck. OK so finally she is like "I have to write for school tomorrow.) I tell her I will call her an uber, she says she will but then when it comes asks me for cash to pay, (***** THIS WAS A SETUP) So I gave her a 50 MIl (yeah I know whatever it was all I had and she knew it) and she is off. 50 Mil.
All in all that is my week, to recap.
Got checked for ID from police.
A regular prepay for 2 years blocked and dumped me.
A semi pro became my GF and is no longer working.
A new regular prepay trusted me to leave her house to pay her after.
A pretty Venezualan looked exactly like she did in her photos.
A girl I been talking to for 3 years and never met face to face, finally saw me in person got drunk, threw up and then gave me a handjob.
How is your week gentlemen? It has been weird for me.
WEIRD, I walked past parque poblado, police stops me and asks to see my ID, puts it in his police app thingie. The thing is I have no choice, I am in their country and I understand the job. Good part is, it was a local ID and not my passport so no international numbers to run..So you said you have a local ID you presented to the police. If it was a Colombian Cedula it would of been linked to your Passport or you would of never been able to obtain the Cedula. If it wasn't a Colombian Cedula, what type of ID did you show the police?
YippieKayay
05-05-17, 18:14
Anyways the location of the Raudal area would be appreciated.From Vera Cruz it's north past the back of the Museum and two blocks west.
Our Colombian driver thought I was insane for going to Centro casas and Mayorista. Of course he wanted 300 k to bring us a girl for an hour. I started shooting jizz on hooker ass at Chicas Punto and sending photos to him with 30 k as a caption. He was like WTF at first but we laughed hard about it over beers later.
He said I was his first customer to do that shit, hahaha.
I sent the same photos to my Cartagena tout who would reply with "bon provecho" hahaha.
So where exactly is the Raudal area in relationship to the Vera Cruz Church. Can you provide the cross streets and / or landmarks describing the location.
Your statement that the Raudal area seems more dangerous to you than the area around the Vera Cruz church has me wanting to check this place out. I hope your not referring to the area with all the hard core drug addicts laying in the middle of the road on the way to Minorista from the Avenida de la grief area.
Anyways the location of the Raudal area would be appreciated.http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2014300&viewfull=1#post2014300.
Post #22054.
Line 1. Should read "just SW of Plaza Botero" - not SE.
My Centro Street guide- (posted most of this in earlier posts but not all in one spot-gathered in 5 days of endless wandering around Centro by myself March of '17).
1. Behind the small white church-Iglesia De La Veracruz-Calle51/ Carr53 -just SE of Plaza Botero.
More young ones in this crowd, ID check a good idea, some trannies too- so penis check also. Starts at pay-phones in front of church and goes around block clockwise on 3 sides till the museum is on your left. Most the glue huffers are in front of / alongside the church. More trannies in this group too. Some of the trannies are convincing little spinners so make sure you are getting what you want. Several little bars along east side of Car53 between Cal51 & 52 with girls in the bar or doorways. Lots just leaning against the walls around the block too. I usually had to do a few laps and sometimes come back in a bit to find one I wanted..
Hi all,
As I had mentioned earlier, about my plan to visit Medellin.
Looking to book a hotel in city, to avoid issues, as I speak only English!
Is Ibis a girl / guest friendly one?
Cheers.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2014300&viewfull=1#post2014300.
Post #22054.That place is my backyard and yes the going price is 30 K including the room. Not a place for an obvious gringo with no Spanish speaking skills though.
It is definitely not a big tourist draw but let's be honest, it's only one street west of shops selling mini Botero sculptures and postcards. Commuters, shoppers, the SWs and their handlers, drug addicts and sellers, and a whole lot of uniformed and plainclothes police all co-exist peacefully for the most part. Something flares up every so often but mostly everybody tends to their business. It's not that unusual to see sandal wearing backpackers wandering around (but not lingering). All that being said, after 6 pm, when it gets dark, all bets are OFF. At night, the area belongs to the street people. If you are looking for trouble, that is the place to find it after dark.
That place is my backyard and yes the going price is 30 K including the room. Not a place for an obvious gringo with no Spanish speaking skills though.
Hi all,
As I had mentioned earlier, about my plan to visit Medellin.
Looking to book a hotel in city, to avoid issues, as I speak only English!
Is Ibis a girl / guest friendly one?
Cheers.Not exactly guest friendly. If your bringing in Chicas that are obviously younger than you security will have you go to the front desk and copy their cedula. This is not a mongering hotel I stayed there for a few weeks and had one regular I brought in only so I just registered her in but never noticed any one else bringing young darlings in.
No Spanish skills either, suggest you stay elsewhere as your going to need assistance in Medellin.
Good Luck.
KillaCam11
05-06-17, 16:25
Hi all,
As I had mentioned earlier, about my plan to visit Medellin.
Looking to book a hotel in city, to avoid issues, as I speak only English!
Is Ibis a girl / guest friendly one?
Cheers.Not sure about hotels but I stayed at primaverazero hostel in pablado (5 minute walk to Parque Illeras), can't beat the location. Had a private room with bathroom for $25 a night, was very clean. No IDs or restrictions on chicas unless they stayed past 6 am then you had to pay like $10. I had about 3 chicas during my stay, no issue. Usually no one was at the desk as they have one person working this and another hostel that was 100 feet away.
I wanted to note Energy charged me 140 k an hour when I went there this week. This was a bit of a surprise as I thought their prices had gone up.
I write though as I'm curious what options there are for Saturday and Sunday during the day? Are any casas decent on Saturday? I have never found anything for Sundays, am curious what peoples suggestions are for pros or chasing non-pros.
I don't have great luck at malls, but do check a few out. I haven't made it out to El Tesoro, does anyone know if that one is any good?
Malls:
I'll get this out of the way quickly so I hopefully save you some time. Oviedo / Tesoro / SantaF / Carulla etc. If you've been to one you've been to them all as far as scoring dates is concerned. There are different stores and merchandises in the different malls, so if you are into shopping it's worth checking them all out.
Saturday / Sunday:
Saturday is the same as any weekday for casas - - except rush hour is a little earlier, more like 1 to 2 pm instead of 3 to 4 pm during the week. Sunday there are of course fewer places open. Those that are open will have fewer girls than during the week. The hours are more like 11 am Until 5 or 6 pm. Since most are open, I will mention a couple that are not: Energy & Aiffe.
New Life is probably the most popular Centro casa. It has Sunday hours. The Medellin list and Medellin map has phone numbers and hours that are pretty accurate, along with all the other information.
Have a good time.
I wanted to note Energy charged me 140 k an hour when I went there this week. This was a bit of a surprise as I thought their prices had gone up.
I write though as I'm curious what options there are for Saturday and Sunday during the day? Are any casas decent on Saturday? I have never found anything for Sundays, am curious what peoples suggestions are for pros or chasing non-pros.
I don't have great luck at malls, but do check a few out. I haven't made it out to El Tesoro, does anyone know if that one is any good?
I wanted to note Energy charged me 140 k an hour when I went there this week. This was a bit of a surprise as I thought their prices had gone up.
I write though as I'm curious what options there are for Saturday and Sunday during the day? Are any casas decent on Saturday? I have never found anything for Sundays, am curious what peoples suggestions are for pros or chasing non-pros.
I don't have great luck at malls, but do check a few out. I haven't made it out to El Tesoro, does anyone know if that one is any good?El Tesoro is a good mall. I was there on a Sunday, early afternoon and not a whole lot of people. Probably picks up a little later. J&see Felicia was almost empty when we sat down and was packed by the time we finished lunch.
Maybe it was a library card. What does it matter? If the guy doesn't have wants or warrants, the police procedure is to file a report of the contact and let him move on. That seems to be what happened. I don't personally notice anything very out of the ordinary about what was described in the post. As per usual on these boards, it smells a little exaggerated (Medellin police don't typically do ID checks on people without cause). Anyone who spends time in Centro has seen a thief chased down and roughed up by a crowd before the police move in and check his ID and pat him down. I can't ever remember seeing them randomly rousts people, especially foreigners.
So you said you have a local ID you presented to the police. If it was a Colombian Cedula it would of been linked to your Passport or you would of never been able to obtain the Cedula. If it wasn't a Colombian Cedula, what type of ID did you show the police?
Eszpresszo
05-07-17, 04:03
I wanted to note Energy charged me 140 k an hour when I went there this week. This was a bit of a surprise as I thought their prices had gone up.I visited Engeria twice in April of last year, just a few days apart. I also noticed a difference of about 30 k for an between my two visits, my morning visit being cheaper than my visit near closing time, a few evenings earlier. I don't know if it was the time of day or just the difference in the two mamasans.
BlueChange
05-07-17, 09:17
So you said you have a local ID you presented to the police. If it was a Colombian Cedula it would of been linked to your Passport or you would of never been able to obtain the Cedula. If it wasn't a Colombian Cedula, what type of ID did you show the police?Oh it was just my local ID from my state I ment, 'Not as in I am a local with a local co ID
I was like I was walking on the street, there was a group of police there, doing sort of a "traffic stop" style stop except it's.
Pedestrians. I have nothing to hide and they would randomly look at and stop passer bys on the sidewalk. It's ok, I understand and when I talk to my friends who are local here, it happeneds to them as well. They just need to log activity if they stopped someone.
YippieKayay
05-07-17, 14:35
Oh it was just my local ID from my state I ment, 'Not as in I am a local with a local co ID
I was like I was walking on the street, there was a group of police there, doing sort of a "traffic stop" style stop except it's.
Pedestrians. I have nothing to hide and they would randomly look at and stop passer bys on the sidewalk. It's ok, I understand and when I talk to my friends who are local here, it happeneds to them as well. They just need to log activity if they stopped someone.Happened to me before in Medellin. Perfectly normal. I even got asked to donate to their retirement fund hahahaha. They are looking for drugs and bribes. Just cooperate and don't show any fear. You will be fine.
BlueChange
05-07-17, 15:47
Happened to me before in Medellin. Perfectly normal. I even got asked to donate to their retirement fund hahahaha. They are looking for drugs and bribes. Just cooperate and don't show any fear. You will be fine.Yeah its just after all these years this was the first time and it was in a string of weird events to happen here to me. It's all good.
Given that personal quantities of marijuana (20 grams), cocaine (1 gram), and even Quaaludes (for those who are old enough to remember them, or maybe old enough to not remember them, since they basically erase all memory) are legal, what drugs are the cops looking for? Heroin? Does Colombia have a heroin problem?
Oh it was just my local ID from my state I ment, 'Not as in I am a loca with a local co ID
I was like I was walking on the street, there was a group of police there, doing sort of a "traffic stop" style stop except it's.
Pedestrians. I have nothing to hide and they would randomly look at and stop passer bys on the sidewalk. It's ok, I understand and when I talk to my friends who are local here, it happeneds to them as well. They just need to log activity if they stopped someone.It's best to always carry a photocopy on your Passport along with a photocopy of your latest entry Stamp with you.
Restaurants in the Centro area that I recommend. 2 of them on the Junin walking street.
Botaniko bistro cafe bar (literally right next door to New Life).
Calle 56 #43 - 43.
Hours:
Mon. Thu 11:30 am - 10:00 pm.
Fri. Sat 11:30 am - 11:00 pm.
Hacienda (great traditional Colombian dishes).
Carrera 49, 52-98 Paseo Junin.
Sun 12:00 pm - 6:00 pm.
Mon. Fri 12:00 pm - 8:00 pm.
Sat 12:00 pm - 10:00 pm.
http://www.restaurantehacienda.com/
Salon Versalles (great breakfast / lunch).
Carrera 49 # 53-39 Paseo Junin.
Sun 8:00 am - 6:00 pm.
Mon. Sat 7:00 am - 9:00 pm.
Lili A La Carta.
Calle 54 #38-29.
Parque de Boston.
Mon. Sat 11:00 am - 10:00 pm.
YippieKayay
05-08-17, 04:27
Given that personal quantities of marijuana (20 grams), cocaine (1 gram), and even Quaaludes (for those who are old enough to remember them, or maybe old enough to not remember them, since they basically erase all memory) are legal, what drugs are the cops looking for? Heroin? Does Colombia have a heroin problem?The cops are looking for money. If you don't have drugs they'll even ask for 5 mil pesos. It happened to me back in November. I also had a cop look at my cellphone and tell me it can't be mine. Just stupid shit.
YippieKayay
05-08-17, 05:54
I went with a friend of mine to Colombia and our first stop was Medellin. We both got places in El Poblado not far from Parque Lleras for convenience.
Parque Lleras:
Back in November the only real action I saw was street hookers in front of the liquor store. That appears to be gone along with the drug dealers offering gum to start a conversation. Instead, if you are sitting at a bar or restaurant facing the park and are sitting on the patio next to the street you will get prepagos trying to get your attention. And let me tell you it's fucking awkward. On our first night one girl would keep walking in and out of the restaurant, and pull out her cellphone in front of us and just stare at us. Evidently we were supposed to motion for her to join us if we were interested, but neither of us clued in because she wasn't dressed to impress in anyway. Her outfit looked like something Crockett and Tubbs would wear out of Miami vice. It didn't take too long for two women to step out of a cab right in front of us and start talking to us. The women abruptly walked away. I looked back and realized the manager of the establishment had come over.
Needless to say, local patrons and business owners don't like hookers propositioning customers out in the open like that.
On the weekend it was a different scene. The later it got the more aggressive hookers would be. From the balcony of Club Gusto I saw one female figure (could have been a tranny) literally try to yank men to go with her. I was not close enough to see what she really looked like. At 3 am as you walked out of the park area hookers would cat call. Especially at the entrances to the park area from Calle 10.
I quickly formed a rule that any women not accompanied by a man has about a 70% chance of being a prepago. If it's two women dressed to impress who are just wondering around then it's a 90% chance of them being prepagos. And before someone criticizes me, I mean specifically at night around Parque Lleras.
My friend who had never been to Colombia, and had never met a prepago before was really baffled at the scene. It's a light version of the Clocktower plaza in Cartagena.
Club Gusto:
This club is right upstairs from Medellin Beer Factory.
I first went Wednesday night at 10:30 pm (the club opens at 10 pm). No cover charge that night and there were maybe 12 women sitting at the bar playing with their phones. They did not appear to be part of any group and no men were with them. It didn't take too long to exchange smiles with them and chat. We weren't offered massages or anything overt, but when I stepped out onto the balcony the women would trickle out slowly and ask me if I wanted company that night. It wasn't in my face. They'd ask where you were from, if they can have a cigarette or a drink and after a few minutes the topic of money for company would come up. I saw one girl who had a nice rear come in and sit down then what appeared to be a Colombian, walked up to her said a few words and she then joined him at his table. He was older and fatter than her. I also saw obese men with tiny women rubbing up against them and sitting on their lap.
This isn't La Dulce Vida from Cartagena, or Habanos in Panama City, but it's certainly getting there.
Prices were insane. Anywhere from 800 k to 300 k. If you stood your ground you could get them down to 200 k easily but you had an easier time doing this after midnight. I'm not sure game or being young and good looking has anything to do with it. Like one girl told me, she regularly has normal guys try to pick her up and she tells them she's working and only looking for money.
I pulled one chica Saturday night, on my second visit. It was 200 k for short time but she did such a great job that I offered her another 200 k for TLN. When I woke up, she was wrapped around me with her arms and legs. Needless to say I had a serious case of morning wood. I nudged her and asked her to take care of me. Her reaction was the very definition of a champ: whereas most women would complain and act cranky this chica moved over to my dick and sucked it dry, hahaha. Good stuff.
Watch out for 'party girls. ' I saw a couple of them try to get my friend at a very high price for all night to 'party. ' They looked like trouble and luckily he caught wind of it too. Also on the weekends there are lots of normal chicas there in their respective groups. This makes it a bit challenging to pick up p4 p if you can't tell them apart.
New Life:
I took my buddy to his first casa experience here. The only bit of news I have is on the propina for BBJ. The girl wanted 50 k which is steep for a casa propina but I paid anyway.
Chicas Punto:
Oh my! I remember people here complaining that the girls were 'fat' and 'unhealthy' but all I saw was at least one good booty for every two girls presented. I made it my mission to session twice a day for an hour each time. This included a nice massage and a solid doggy style fuck riding a good piece of ass. 30 k for a half hour and 60 k for an hour. It's cheaper than the vera cruz area because at 30 k for a half hour you would still pay for the hotel room in Vera Cruz. There is something to be said about the economics of this casa.
One of the girls agreed to give me her number which I always found was hard in casa. They would always respond with "no tengo celular" Probably rules of the casa. This same girl was considering letting me fly her out to Cartagena but she goes to vocational college and it would have interrupted her studies. She would have been a cheap opportunity to wife up in Cartagena.
The multa to take a girl out if 40 k. Yes, it's that cheap. I didn't try it but one of the girls said it's 40 k to the house and 200 k to her for her to spend the entire day with me.
Yakuza:
It looks like they actually have rooms now instead of stalls with tarps in them. I dropped in once when there were only girls there. One of the women walked me through what was on offer and she was speaking so quickly I couldn't make out what she was saying except it was very technical. If you pay for a half hour it's full sex. For 45 minutes that includes a blowjob. And hour included a massage or some other shit. She was miming some of these with her hands which made me really whorney. She also said it was possible to go up to the hotel next door. After the full seminar on what's on offer she told me she would introduce the girls. Then she extended her hand, smiled and gave me her name. I didn't partake that day in Yakuza and I regret it because I didn't see her again. She had a normal face and body, but the way she described everything really made me want to fuck her.
Hotel Balcones de Cuba:
I decided to uber my way over to this hotel based on a previous report that indicated there was some good booty here. Unfortunately none of the booty was fat. It was a weird experience. You buzz your way in and the receptionist, who does not seem happy at all, asks you what you want. I explain I'm here for a massage. She motions me to a living room next to her. There I find a dude sitting on a couch with a gym bag. I nod and sit down. A few minutes later he blurts out some fast Spanish and I can only respond with nodding. He nods and gets up and I follow him some flight of stairs to another living room. There's a dude here who looks like Furio from The Sopranos along with a group of other dudes who are watching TV. He takes me to a hallway with four rooms, and knocks on each one and then leaves. I get the presentation and decide it's not for me. As per Colombian custom no hard feelings, and Furio bids me farewell.
Vera Cruz:
I spent very little time here, so I don't have much to add other than Wolf's excellent posts on the area. It was too frigging hot to make the rounds more than once. Hotel Channel had some hotties in the doorway. I may partake next time. My biggest issue is I know myself. If the booty is exceptionally good I try to go bareback and I have a feeling this is the last place in the city I should be doing that.
Mayorista:
I posted about this in my mid report (s). I see no reason to visit unless you're a local who knows what he's doing.
Overall:
The only bad service I got was in Mayorista. All the other hookers did their job and some went above and beyond. The best part? All the bakers, waitresses, waiters, and business owners I had met previously remembered me. They all had the same line for me when I thanked them: "con mucho gusto. ".
You wrote a very nice report. I never had a casa girl decline to give me her phone number, ever. Once at Luna Lunera it happened, but the girl gave friend me on Facebook on the spot.
Yakuza stays open until 4 am if you dare. You probably know there is another casa one flight up from chicas puntocom. I am a member of a Colombia site similar to this one. There is a big argument going on about guys who go to escorts in apartments, pay 150 k and get bad service or a bait and switch good photo / worse girl scenario. It got heated when some guys called apt customers stupid because those apt girls were mostly from Centro casas where they cost 1\3 and are supervised. Everybody complained about apt. Customers going to the casas and tipping girls big because they are so happy to get the standard service for 50 k instead of 150 k for crap service.
You are on the right track about Veracruz. 30 k for room plus girl but you can go to a casa like New Life for 40 k /15 minutes or 50 k /30 minutes. You have to be on a pretty tight budget to need to save 10 to 20 k and use those rough love motels. I do it for a change once in a while.
Speaking of New Life, guys don't fall for the girls' scam to raise your fee. When you are done, UT your clothes on and go to cashier and pay. The girls tell you bullshit that you have to wait for them or they will get in the shower, anything to get you to the next time cut off. Why the fuck would we want to pay to watch the slowly get dressed. I get it that they want to take a break from the constant presentations and fucking but I have to work for my money.
I went with a friend of mine to Colombia and our first stop was Medellin. We both got places in El Poblado not far from Parque Lleras for convenience.
Parque Lleras:
Back in November the only real action I saw was street hookers in front of the liquor store. That appears to be gone along with the drug dealers offering gum to start a conversation. Instead, if you are sitting at a bar or restaurant facing the park and are sitting on the patio next to the street you will get prepagos trying to get your attention. And let me tell you it's fucking awkward. On our first night one girl would keep walking in and out of the restaurant, and pull out her cellphone in front of us and just stare at us. Evidently we were supposed to motion for her to join us if we were interested, but neither of us clued in because she wasn't dressed to impress in anyway. Her outfit looked like something Crockett and Tubbs would wear out of Miami vice. It didn't take too long for two women to step out of a cab right in front of us and start talking to us. The women abruptly walked away. I looked back and realized the manager of the establishment had come over.
Needless to say, local patrons and business owners don't like hookers propositioning customers out in the open like that..
I get it that they want to take a break from the constant presentations and fucking but I have to work for my money.You don't think they are working for their money? Try getting fucked 6 times a day by old, fat gringos, half who want either BB, anal or both, just to maybe make 150 k. Not implying you're old or fat, but they aren't there because of the handsome customers or the charming personalities.
Nice report, just one small correction, the 30 m did include the room when I was with the Veracruz red light girls. And the rooms were nowhere near as bad as yakuza's unabomber shacks.
I went with a friend of mine to Colombia and our first stop was Medellin. We both got places in El Poblado not far from Parque Lleras for convenience.
Parque Lleras:
Back in November the only real action I saw was street hookers in front of the liquor store. That appears to be gone along with the drug dealers offering gum to start a conversation. Instead, if you are sitting at a bar or restaurant facing the park and are sitting on the patio next to the street you will get prepagos trying to get your attention. And let me tell you it's fucking awkward. On our first night one girl would keep walking in and out of the restaurant, and pull out her cellphone in front of us and just stare at us. Evidently we were supposed to motion for her to join us if we were interested, but neither of us clued in because she wasn't dressed to impress in anyway. Her outfit looked like something Crockett and Tubbs would wear out of Miami vice. It didn't take too long for two women to step out of a cab right in front of us and start talking to us. The women abruptly walked away. I looked back and realized the manager of the establishment had come over.
Needless to say, local patrons and business owners don't like hookers propositioning customers out in the open like that.
On the weekend it was a different scene. The later it got the more aggressive hookers would be. From the balcony of Club Gusto I saw one female figure (could have been a tranny) literally try to yank men to go with her. I was not close enough to see what she really looked like. At 3 am as you walked out of the park area hookers would cat call. Especially at the entrances to the park area from Calle 10.
I quickly formed a rule that any women not accompanied by a man has about a 70% chance of being a prepago. If it's two women dressed to impress who are just wondering around then it's a 90% chance of them being prepagos. And before someone criticizes me, I mean specifically at night around Parque Lleras.
My friend who had never been to Colombia, and had never met a prepago before was really baffled at the scene. It's a light version of the Clocktower plaza in Cartagena.
Club Gusto:.
Mr Enternational
05-08-17, 22:42
You don't think they are working for their money? Try getting fucked 6 times a day by old, fat gringos, half who want either BB, anal or both, just to maybe make 150 k. Not implying you're old or fat, but they aren't there because of the handsome customers or the charming personalities.But he specified when you have finished fucking during your time bracket and the girl stalls to get you to roll over to the next time bracket. The girl would be getting paid in the new bracket without working, and you would be paying into the new bracket without fucking. Same as if a taxi driver drove in circles to run up the meter when he could have dropped you at your destination 10 minutes ago.
Well yes, in fact I do think they work for their money. They are working for their money while they are fucking or walking in Tues. Presentation lines. I don't consider their shower time or freshening their makeup work that I should be paying them to do. Just like I don't expect my employer to give me extra money for the time I tale to get my car foxed on Tues. Weekend. I am not at all fat, nor am I old enough to retire. Also, most of their customers are neither old nor gringos. My point is I have no problem paying for the session but when it's over I don't want to keep paying. Anyone who feels differently can sit there in the room and let the time go by, it's their money after all.
You don't think they are working for their money? Try getting fucked 6 times a day by old, fat gringos, half who want either BB, anal or both, just to maybe make 150 k. Not implying you're old or fat, but they aren't there because of the handsome customers or the charming personalities..
Yes, that is what I was trying to say. I was trying to help guys avoid getting ripped off.
But he specified when you have finished fucking during your time bracket and the girl stalls to get you to roll over to the next time bracket. The girl would be getting paid in the new bracket without working, and you would be paying into the new bracket without fucking. Same as if a taxi driver drove in circles to run up the meter when he could have dropped you at your destination 10 minutes ago.
KillaCam11
05-09-17, 05:00
For the guys who spend months here, how much do you spend monthly on average?
Nice recommendations, Versailles is a real institution, lots of history. Unfortunately, it's a bit down on its luck in recent years. The wait staff is not very engaged. On busy nights. Especially weekends. The floor is full of trash, dirtier than the sidewalk outside. Once I had to send a waiter to get a second knife and fork because the first set he gave me had old food stuck on it. I try to avoid the place but I'll have coffee or beer from time to time.
A place I can add to the list is: Cafe Colombo Credenza, Carrera 45 No 53-24.
10th Floor. It's on the 10th floor of a well known English language school. There is the bonus benefit of college age girls all over the place. They are open pretty late. The continental style food is surprisingly good and the dining room is decorated in a sophisticated urban style with several tables on an outdoor terrace with great views of the city and the mountains. One word of warning, the portions are American sized so be careful with how much you order. The prices are competitive.
Restaurants in the Centro area that I recommend. 2 of them on the Junin walking street.
Botaniko bistro cafe bar (literally right next door to New Life).
Calle 56 #43 - 43.
Hours:
Mon. Thu 11:30 am - 10:00 pm.
Fri. Sat 11:30 am - 11:00 pm.
Hacienda (great traditional Colombian dishes).
Carrera 49, 52-98 Paseo Junin.
Sun 12:00 pm - 6:00 pm.
Mon. Fri 12:00 pm - 8:00 pm.
Sat 12:00 pm - 10:00 pm..
Restaurants in the Centro area that I recommend. 2 of them on the Junin walking street.
Botaniko bistro cafe bar (literally right next door to New Life).
Calle 56 #43 - 43.
Hours:
Mon. Thu 11:30 am - 10:00 pm.
Fri. Sat 11:30 am - 11:00 pm.
Hacienda (great traditional Colombian dishes).
Carrera 49, 52-98 Paseo Junin..The owner of Botaniko is a friend of mine. Go there, it's a great place and he speaks a little English.
You will find that it varies quite a bit from person to person. It depends on how guys spend their time. For example most everyone on this site spends time with girls. Let's randomly pick five guys and say they see girls ten times a month. The cost of that can vary depending whether they pick girls up at Veracruz, Mayorista, Fase 2, or go to casas. Let's say the same guys eat out at restaurants 10 times per month. That cost will vary depending on whether they eat at high end places like Carmen and La Provincia or whether they eat only lunch specials at Carbon why Sabor. So you have to give an idea of how you think you might spend your time and you will get a useful answer. Another way to put it in perspective is think about how much you are able to or willing to spend and you will get some feedback about what kind of lifestyle you can expect.
For the guys who spend months here, how much do you spend monthly on average?
I second that. It's a great place where you can get a healthy meal (not always easy in Medellin). The littlest male waiter makes me laugh because when he tells you the daily special it's like he's a reverend reading a sermon. They are really serious about what they do and they keep every part of the restaurant spotless. That is something else that is not easy to find in Centro.
The owner of Botaniko is a friend of mine. Go there, it's a great place and he speaks a little English.
Well yes, in fact I do think they work for their money. They are working for their money while they are fucking or walking in Tues. Presentation lines. I don't consider their shower time or freshening their makeup work that I should be paying them to do. Just like I don't expect my employer to give me extra money for the time I tale to get my car foxed on Tues. Weekend. I am not at all fat, nor am I old enough to retire. Also, most of their customers are neither old nor gringos. My point is I have no problem paying for the session but when it's over I don't want to keep paying. Anyone who feels differently can sit there in the room and let the time go by, it's their money after all.
.I understand your purpose and agree with the principle. When the job's done punch the clock and go. However, the way you worded it implied their money isn't earned.
For the guys who spend months here, how much do you spend monthly on average?I've spent just under $500 in 33 days.
Like any other number you get, it's useless to you. My rent and utilities are paid by my boss / friend, frequently my friends take me to dinner or movies and pick up the bill, I buy less than half the groceries and cook at the apartment once or twice a day. In the next 30 days I'll probably spend $4000.
If you are planning to come here for a month or more you need to figure out how much you can afford to spend. Are you comfortable eating comida tipica every day, or do you need something more expensive? Are you okay with a $25/ night hotel, or do you want something more upscale? Are the low end casa girls fine with you, or are you looking more upscale? Are you a 3 times a day guy, or a once every 3 days guy? What other entertainment do you need?
You can probably do 30 days for under $1800, if you stick with a $20/ night or less room, eat local food at cheap restaurants, and stick to 6 sessions / week at New Life or comparable places.
Or, you can do 30 days and spend $6000.
Figure out what you want / need and then someone can help you with a budget.
YippieKayay
05-09-17, 20:38
For the guys who spend months here, how much do you spend monthly on average?There are people living there on their social security checks and saving money. But if you go to tourist traps expect to pay more.
Speaking Spanish makes a world of difference.
Hope that helps.
Mr Enternational
05-09-17, 21:43
You can probably do 30 days for under $1800, if you stick with a $20/ night or less room, eat local food at cheap restaurants, and stick to 6 sessions / week at New Life or comparable places.A couple of buddys pay $120/ month in a downtown hotel.
Manizales911
05-09-17, 22:57
For the guys who spend months here, how much do you spend monthly on average?When I lived in Colombia I spent $1500. - $2000. USD a month all in, I could easily do it for a lot less but I don't want to and don't have to.
Thanks for the Post.
This made me think, maybe go back and ask her to speak slowly and provide a technical language guide. (with video is she is up for it).
I see there is the abbreviations guide above but, what about a short list of proper Spanish words for acts.
I am just learning and not sure if using the proper words and will be understood.
I am guessing you guys know the acceptable slang in Colombia.
Example:
Kiss. Beso.
BJ. Mamada.
HJ. Trabajo de mano.
Sex. Coito or joder or mierda.
Originally Posted by YipYippieKayay.
Yakuza:
It looks like they actually have rooms now instead of stalls with tarps in them. I dropped in once when there were only girls there. One of the women walked me through what was on offer and she was speaking so quickly I couldn't make out what she was saying except it was very technical. If you pay for a half hour it's full sex. For 45 minutes that includes a blowjob. And hour included a massage or some other shit. She was miming some of these with her hands which made me really whorney. She also said it was possible to go up to the hotel next door. After the full seminar on what's on offer she told me she would introduce the girls. Then she extended her hand, smiled and gave me her name. I didn't partake that day in Yakuza and I regret it because I didn't see her again. She had a normal face and body, but the way she described everything really made me want to fuck her.
A couple of buddys pay $120/ month in a downtown hotel.And would you recommend that for someone who probably doesn't speak the language and has probably never been to Colombia?
If it's a first time come for no more than a week and budget $150/ day. You shouldn't need half of that, but it's a lot better to go home with $400 than to try to get through your last 2 days on $20 because someone picked $100 from your pocket.
Mr Enternational
05-10-17, 03:33
I am guessing you guys know the acceptable slang in Colombia.
Example:
Kiss. Beso.
BJ. Mamada.
HJ. Trabajo de mano.
Sex. Coito or joder or mierda.Did you use a translator or something for this? I am by no means a Spanish expert although I speak it pretty damn good, but it seems as if you have tried to translate English slang into Spanish slang. To masturbate someone is definitely not "work of hand". Joder? To fuck with someone as in pulling their leg or trying to put one over on them is the same as having intercourse? Could be, but I don't think I have ever heard it used in that manner. And of course mierda is shit. So fucking someone is the same as shit? Back to the drawing board for one of us. Dickhead, care to school us?
I can help keep this simple. Yakuza like most every other casa has a half hour price and a one hour price. Blow job and fuck for either price. You can normally get two pops for the hour rate if you do your chatting before the session starts and tell the chica to let you know when she's done showering or whatever else she wants to do. The session does not begin until you are in the room or leave with the chica to go to a hotel. It isn't any more complicated than that.
Some guys like the half hour rate because you can always extend it if you want. Other guys like the hour rate because you can take your time. Try both and decide which works best for you.
Thanks for the Post.
This made me think, maybe go back and ask her to speak slowly and provide a technical language guide. (with video is she is up for it).
I see there is the abbreviations guide above but, what about a short list of proper Spanish words for acts.
I am just learning and not sure if using the proper words and will be understood.
I am guessing you guys know the acceptable slang in Colombia.
Example:
Kiss. Beso.
BJ. Mamada.
HJ. Trabajo de mano.
Sex. Coito or joder or mierda.
I have been to MDE a few times but most of my Colombia trips are focused on Cartagena. On my last MDE trip, I spent some time with a family, who I had met previously, and the daughter in the family told me that she and her BF, a paisano, had recently moved from El Poblado to Sabaneta. They both still work in Parque LLeras area and have professional jobs. At the time, I thought Sabaneta was a rural area, outside of MDE, but recently discovered this community actually has light rail connections to central MDE, less expensive long term accommodations, and most important a lively night life on the weekends with many clubs and restaurants located in and around a bustling town plaza. I was under the impression from researching this area that many middle class paisanas also go to the dance clubs and restaurants though no mention of P4 P but, nevertheless, the chance to meet regular girls sounds appealing.
I am wondering if any BM's live or hang out there and can offer opinions about Sabaneta. In addition to the other features I mentioned above, it is said to be less polluted and hectic than central MDE and has a small town feel though with easy access to El Poblado etc.
My only concern about Sabaneta appears to be the weather. On my weather app, it appears that constant rain or chance of rain seems to be a prevalent weather pattern here (for the next ten days) or is the spring time considered rainy season.
It has rained every day for the last 5 weeks, except for 3 days. Every-single-day and I live poblado.
I have been to MDE a few times but most of my Colombia trips are focused on Cartagena. On my last MDE trip, I spent some time with a family, who I had met previously, and the daughter in the family told me that she and her BF, a paisano, had recently moved from El Poblado to Sabaneta. They both still work in Parque LLeras area and have professional jobs. At the time, I thought Sabaneta was a rural area, outside of MDE, but recently discovered this community actually has light rail connections to central MDE, less expensive long term accommodations, and most important a lively night life on the weekends with many clubs and restaurants located in and around a bustling town plaza. I was under the impression from researching this area that many middle class paisanas also go to the dance clubs and restaurants though no mention of P4 P but, nevertheless, the chance to meet regular girls sounds appealing.
I am wondering if any BM's live or hang out there and can offer opinions about Sabaneta. In addition to the other features I mentioned above, it is said to be less polluted and hectic than central MDE and has a small town feel though with easy access to El Poblado etc.
My only concern about Sabaneta appears to be the weather. On my weather app, it appears that constant rain or chance of rain seems to be a prevalent weather pattern here (for the next ten days) or is the spring time considered rainy season.
It has rained every day for the last 5 weeks, except for 3 days. Every-single-day and I live poblado.But to be fair, many days it's just a light shower that doesn't last too long. The last few days most of the rain has been at night.
Did you use a translator or something for this? I am by no means a Spanish expert although I speak it pretty damn good, but it seems as if you have tried to translate English slang into Spanish slang. To masturbate someone is definitely not "work of hand". Joder? To fuck with someone as in pulling their leg or trying to put one over on them is the same as having intercourse? Could be, but I don't think I have ever heard it used in that manner. And of course mierda is shit. So fucking someone is the same as shit? Back to the drawing board for one of us. Dickhead, care to school us?'Mamar' is usually used for tit sucking. 'Chupar' is the verb I hear in most places for dick sucking. If my Spanish was at this level I would use 'sexo oral' or 'bucal. ' 'Joder' is in fact used for fucking in some parts of the Spanish-speaking world but I can't recall where. In Spain they use 'follar' and in the Southern cone they use 'coger. ' In México they use 'chingar. ' So why not just use 'sexo' and that will be understood everywhere. I believe 'coito' is Portuguese.
No idea where 'mierda' came from, although if you say 'andate cagar' (cagar = to shit) you are telling someone the English equivalent of 'go fuck yourself. '.
But 'beso' for kiss will sure work. 'Besos negros' = anilingus or a 'tossed salad. '.
Using slang when you are not fluent is inadvisable, can be disrespectful, and can even be dangerous.
Here's an example. A 'pinche' in México is a dumbass or a useless person. In parts of Central América and in Perú, it means a cheapskate, similar to 'codo' or 'tacaño. ' So here in Spain you see signs saying 'Se necesita pinche' in restaurant windows. My latin américan friend laughed and asked me why someone would be advertising for a useless dumbass.
In Spain it just means the lowest position in the kitchen, the dishwasher, potato peeler, etc. Similarly in Spain 'coger' means to grab ahold of something or catch something. It means 'fuck' in Argentina and Paraguay. So when my friend heard a Spanish lady say to her friend, 'Vamos a coger el autobus' she wondered if that was even possible and why someone would try.
Thanks I appreciate the help, Point taken. I will keep it simple and stick to the basics and not offend.
Plus in most cases body language and actions speak the most and the ladies usually take the lead.
'Mamar' is usually used for tit sucking. 'Chupar' is the verb I hear in most places for dick sucking. If my Spanish was at this level I would use 'sexo oral' or 'bucal.
But 'beso' for kiss will sure work.
Using slang when you are not fluent is inadvisable, can be disrespectful, and can even be dangerous.
When I was a kid in the '70's in Costa Rica they used "culiar" for fuck, root word culo (ass) but I didn't refer to anal sex as far as I know, they use that at all in S America?
'Mamar' is usually used for tit sucking. 'Chupar' is the verb I hear in most places for dick sucking. If my Spanish was at this level I would use 'sexo oral' or 'bucal. ' 'Joder' is in fact used for fucking in some parts of the Spanish-speaking world but I can't recall where. In Spain they use 'follar' and in the Southern cone they use 'coger. ' In Mxico they use 'chingar. ' So why not just use 'sexo' and that will be understood everywhere. I believe 'coito' is Portuguese.
No idea where 'mierda' came from, although if you say 'andate cagar' (cagar = to shit) you are telling someone the English equivalent of 'go fuck yourself. '.
But 'beso' for kiss will sure work. 'Besos negros' = anilingus or a 'tossed salad. '.
Using slang when you are not fluent is inadvisable, can be disrespectful, and can even be dangerous.
Here's an example. A 'pinche' in Mxico is a dumbass or a useless person. In parts of Central Amrica and in Per, it means a cheapskate, similar to 'codo' or 'tacao. ' So here in Spain you see signs saying 'Se necesita pinche' in restaurant windows. My latin amrican friend laughed and asked me why someone would be advertising for a useless dumbass.
In Spain it just means the lowest position in the kitchen, the dishwasher, potato peeler, etc. Similarly in Spain 'coger' means to grab ahold of something or catch something. It means 'fuck' in Argentina and Paraguay. So when my friend heard a Spanish lady say to her friend, 'Vamos a coger el autobus' she wondered if that was even possible and why someone would try.
When I was a kid in the '70's in Costa Rica they used "culiar" for fuck, root word culo (ass) but I didn't refer to anal sex as far as I know, they use that at all in S America?Have not heard that one in my travels. In Argentina they have a cute little dicho:.
'Para evitar el aborto, coger por el orto. '.
I guess 'coito' just translates as coitus. I was wrong about it being Portuguese. Never heard it used but then I am not sure I have ever heard an English speaker actually say coitus either.
Google España claims that joder is commonly used to mean fuck in Spain, but I always hear follar. But it's mostly Catalan in this part of Spain, although follar is not a Catalan word.
In all Latin countries we use different slang words.
Culiar is universal though it refers to the movement we make with our ass, it is pretty vulgar so you should only say it to someone you already know, colombians use pichar more often or sometimes cojer but is more often used in Mexico.
When I was a kid in the '70's in Costa Rica they used "culiar" for fuck, root word culo (ass) but I didn't refer to anal sex as far as I know, they use that at all in S America?.
My one day trip, am staying at the Sixtina Plaza hotel, 121 k for the jr suite with a queen size bed and hot tub for 2, went straight to la raya looking for my flaquita, and there she was in a black mini dress, she immediately recognized me, greeted me with a hug and a kiss in the mouth, we sat down at one of the tables had a couple of beers to catch up, it started pouring so we headed to my hotel, but the freaking reception desk wouldn't allow her in because she didn't have her cedula, wtf, so we headed back to the hotel she works at, got a room for a long stay cause we were planning to fuck each others brains out, we get some rum, couple of sodas and cigs for her, we get to the room and she lays me down and starts getting me undressed, we are both soaked so the clothes are sticking to my skin, I start sucking her tiny nipples, and teasing her pussy under her dress, am good and naked so I take her dress and panties off and she sits on my lap facing me french kissing me and stroking my cock between us and rubbing it against her clit, this girl is so tiny but has a big protruding clit and soft pink pussy lips, am so ready to fuck her but we got time for foreplay, she is a teaser, we drink some rum and she asks if she can light up a blunt, I tell her go ahead as long as she lets me eat her pussy while she smokes it, she sits on the bed against the headboard and opens her legs wide apart, such a tiny pussy her lips look like tiny rose petals, I get to work licking, sucking, fingering that pussy, she is moaning in pleasure, and with one hand opens that clit for me so I can stick my tongue all the way in, she starts to tremble, I know she is enjoying it, I lick her asshole and she moans and tells me what a bad boy I am and pulls me up to kiss me, I'm so hard, she grabs my dick and rubs the head on her clit as she cums, she puts the rubber on and we start fucking missionary, slow at first I don't want to cum too quickly, I pick up speed and she moves her hips to meet each of my strokes, I ask her to change positions to cowgirl, to give a me sec to recoup, she gets on top of me and rides me hard, she is dripping so much cum the bed is wet under me, we change to doggy, OMG, such a beautiful sight of that pussy from behind, so I lick and tongue fuck her for a little bit, then fuck her hard for a few minutes, then as am ready to pop I ask her to let me cum on her ass, she says ok, so freaking delicious, that tiny ass with my milk dripping down her ass and on the side of her pussy, we rest a little, drink more shots, we wash off and lay back down on the bed, she lights up a cigarette, as we talk and kiss, while she plays with my limp dick and I finger her, until she gets me hard again we do a 69 for a few minutes, she instructs me how she wants me to lick her, with the tip of my tongue in her clit flicking it up and down and to suck it hard and slow, she cums on my face, and lays down exhausted, we chat a little more, finish the rum and gives me a BBBJ, puts the rubber on then mounts me reverse cowgirl, very passionately, we change to missionary, then doggy, till I pop and my legs feel like rubber, we have been in the room for over 3 hours, we get dressed, and I leave, I told her to comeback tonight at 10 pm so we can session again, total damage 35 K for the room, 30 K for the rum, sodas, cigs and a water for me, and 200 K for Estefany, she was never rushed, total GF experience, and just sweet girl.
BoricuaOnline
05-12-17, 03:30
Thanks for the Post.
This made me think, maybe go back and ask her to speak slowly and provide a technical language guide. (with video is she is up for it).
I see there is the abbreviations guide above but, what about a short list of proper Spanish words for acts.
I am just learning and not sure if using the proper words and will be understood.
I am guessing you guys know the acceptable slang in Colombia.
Example:
Kiss. Beso.
BJ. Mamada.
HJ. Trabajo de mano.
Sex. Coito or joder or mierda.In Colombia BJ is chupar verga, soplar verga, chupar mond.
HJ is andar con Manuela (Manuela is female of proper name Manuel which is written similar to manual), descremarse, hacerse una paja.
For sex coger, pichar, echar un polvo and follar are commonly used.
Anal sex is culiar, chiquitear or dar por el chiquito. I am visiting Colombia for the first time next month so I am doing my assignment.
YippieKayay
05-12-17, 07:51
In Colombia BJ is chupar verga, soplar verga, chupar mond.
HJ is andar con Manuela (Manuela is female of proper name Manuel which is written similar to manual), descremarse, hacerse una paja.
For sex coger, pichar, echar un polvo and follar are commonly used.
Anal sex is culiar, chiquitear or dar por el chiquito. I am visiting Colombia for the first time next month so I am doing my assignment.You're visiting Colombia for the first time and are posting what slang they use their? May I make a suggestion? Until you've actually been there don't post information you're not sure about? Coger in Colombia is used in many different ways, and is not necessarily vulgar.
El Mechanico
05-12-17, 15:51
In Colombia BJ is chupar verga, soplar verga, chupar mond.
HJ is andar con Manuela (Manuela is female of proper name Manuel which is written similar to manual), descremarse, hacerse una paja.
For sex coger, pichar, echar un polvo and follar are commonly used.
Anal sex is culiar, chiquitear or dar por el chiquito. I am visiting Colombia for the first time next month so I am doing my assignment.I agree with Yippiekkiyay, until you've been there. I am no expert on Colombia with only 2 trips to the MDE & 1 to the CTG, but the only one of those I have ever heard of was culiar & that was in Costa Rica. I find a good way to get the local slang is to read the girls ads on Mil eroticos & translate if you have to. That way you can find out what type of service they give & learn how to ask for it. Just my thoughts.
El Mechanico.
Soplar? I doubt that one.
BoricuaOnline
05-12-17, 16:21
I agree with Yippiekkiyay, until you've been there. I am no expert on Colombia with only 2 trips to the MDE & 1 to the CTG, but the only one of those I have ever heard of was culiar & that was in Costa Rica. I find a good way to get the local slang is to read the girls ads on Mil eroticos & translate if you have to. That way you can find out what type of service they give & learn how to ask for it. Just my thoughts.
El Mechanico.Thanks for your comments yippie and Mechanico. The information was provided to me by a couple of Colombian co workers. In fact they are from different Colombian areas and they use different words for the same thing. One of them show me a dictionary of Colombian terms and phrases were I got the information I provided on my post. Maybe culiar is used in areas you have never visited, who knows.
BoricuaOnline
05-12-17, 16:23
Soplar? I doubt that one.Soplar is an anglicism, soplar is blow in English so don't be surprised about the use of soplar.
BoricuaOnline
05-12-17, 16:26
You're visiting Colombia for the first time and are posting what slang they use their? May I make a suggestion? Until you've actually been there don't post information you're not sure about? Coger in Colombia is used in many different ways, and is not necessarily vulgar.Believe me, when I post something it is because I am sure about it.
YippieKayay
05-12-17, 17:38
Believe me, when I post something it is because I am sure about it.I'm just going to do this one last time. Coger is not only used in the vulgar sense. It is used often for a lot of things. Even grabbing a taxi. Outside of Colombia, Latinos find it funny when a Colombian uses it that way. Cogero un taxi, for example is something you'll hear in Colombia even though outside of Colombia it means "I will fuck a taxi. ".
But who am I to argue? You're an expert in Colombian slang having never stepped foot in Colombia. Let's hope those co-workers aren't making fun out of you.
I'm just going to do this one last time. Coger is not only used in the vulgar sense. It is used often for a lot of things. Even grabbing a taxi. Outside of Colombia, Latinos find it funny when a Colombian uses it that way. Cogero un taxi, for example is something you'll hear in Colombia even though outside of Colombia it means "I will fuck a taxi. ".
But who am I to argue? You're an expert in Colombian slang having never stepped foot in Colombia. Let's hope those co-workers aren't making fun out of you.Cojo un taxi (I grab a cab), or to use the future tense, cogeré (I will / am going to grab a cab). The 'g' changes to a 'j' in the present tense, to retain the same sound. That is necessary because 'g' is not the same sound when followed by an 'o' as it is when followed by an 'e. '.
It's the verb for to grab or to catch in Spain as well, where it has no vulgar connotation. In Cuba, if someone says ¿Quieres coger? They are asking you if you want to throw a baseball around. It means fuck in Argentina, Paraguay, and I think Uruguay as well. In those places, when you want to grab something, you use the verb 'agarrar. '.
Argies make fun of españoles: 'Vamos a coger el autobus' and then the españoles make fun of the argentinos' accent: ¡Zhámeme zha! It's all good, clean fun.
BoricuaOnline
05-12-17, 18:30
I'm just going to do this one last time. Coger is not only used in the vulgar sense. It is used often for a lot of things. Even grabbing a taxi. Outside of Colombia, Latinos find it funny when a Colombian uses it that way. Cogero un taxi, for example is something you'll hear in Colombia even though outside of Colombia it means "I will fuck a taxi. ".
But who am I to argue? You're an expert in Colombian slang having never stepped foot in Colombia. Let's hope those co-workers aren't making fun out of you.I am puertorican so I speak Spanish and very familiar with informal language on Latin countries. When I travel to Santo Domingo people ask me "are you going to rent a car or call a cab?" Voy a coger un taxi en Santo Domingo is my answer. Then I am going to el colmadon y voy a coger (grab) una cerveza bien FRa de la nevera. Later I am going to fuck (coger, chichar, singar, follar) a girl. Sometimes I like to make people look like a fool (coger de tonto). When I was in college I hated mid term exams (odiaba coger examenes de mitad de semestre). I know the many uses of the word coger.
PepolesBuddy
05-12-17, 19:41
Can't speak Spanish for shit. Ask any Latin person from countries other than I've mentioned and we all agree. Until y'all can say por que, hamburger, importante vs. Pol que, hambulger, impoltante. Don't teach us Spanish. Your accents sound terrible and your Spanish is horrible!
BoricuaOnline
05-12-17, 20:22
Can't speak Spanish for shit. Ask any Latin person from countries other than I've mentioned and we all agree. Until y'all can say por que, hamburger, importante vs. Pol que, hambulger, impoltante. Don't teach us Spanish. Your accents sound terrible and your Spanish is horrible!Hi Pepoles, your comment is racist, offensive and derogatory. People from my country have the same opinion you have about us but against people from other latin countries. I call it ignorance. Spanish is a language enriched by the people of any Spanish speaking country. Have a nice day sir.
Yeah, that was uncalled for. I have been to 16 Spanish-speaking countries plus Puerto Rico and they all have their own way of speaking. Yes, in Puerto Rico and Cuba they swallow their esses, and sometimes add an extra ess on the end of the word to make up for the ones they swallow. So postre is potre and sometimes you hear things like 'pusistes.' Other places might roll the 'r' at the end of the word, which is not correct. Sometimes less educated people in Spain say 'cuala.'
Just like in the Yew Ess you might hear 'Where the shitter at?' Or 'y'all' which is not a word of any kind in English. Pot. Kettle. Etc.
BoricuaOnline
05-12-17, 21:02
Yeah, that was uncalled for. I have been to 16 Spanish-speaking countries plus Puerto Rico and they all have their own way of speaking. Yes, in Puerto Rico and Cuba they swallow their esses, and sometimes add an extra ess on the end of the word to make up for the ones they swallow. So postre is potre and sometimes you hear things like 'pusistes.' Other places might roll the 'r' at the end of the word, which is not correct. Sometimes less educated people in Spain say 'cuala.'
Just like in the Yew Ess you might hear 'Where the shitter at?' Or 'y'all' which is not a word of any kind in English. Pot. Kettle. Etc.I agree with you. I am going to provide a full report after my trip. I talk a lot with people so I am going to ask about culiar, coger and all other words, LOL.
Hi all,
I'm typing for speed so please excuse a few spelling and grammar mistakes. I can say with no ego that I don't speak Spanish. Yes, it is harder without knowing Spanish in Medellin. But I get by with loose words string together from my limited vocab and some funny desperate arm movements / gestures with a smile. I am also of a skin complexion that can seen from a mile away. I cannot blend in or hide in a crowd and that makes things interesting. All in all, I adjusted my expectations and take things as it is. I'm a budget kind of guy. This isn't everyone's idea of a vacation. I can see why being a baller and spending lots of money can be fun. But I am not that guy. Since my outcome per girl can wildly differ, I keep track of cost per session, cost per hour, and cost per enjoyment for maximum dollar efficiency. Budgeting is how I can afford this vacation anyway, so old habits die hard. My method with chicas is a large number of on hand auditioning, which I promote the winners upward. Large pools are collected from low end casas which is my preference. (at least 4 a day) Slumming it like this isn't everyone's cup of tea. It can be an exhausting method with varying results. For me, the important thing is to find girls with the "it" factor, enjoying them at the lowest cost possible. Attitude, skill, and enthusiasm is really important in my chicas. Last time I found 5 girls with "it" factors and had a busy rotation. Sometimes I find none which can be depressing. It's my second day back in Medellin, and I am happy I found one "it" girl. So when you read this, please adjust your expectations to your own circumstance. Also I'm just a few trips in and not a pro like most of the gents who post reports, so be kind. I got a hotel in the La Mayorista area because I wanted to see what it was like. La Mayorista isn't bad. The plus side is you can get 6, 7 or even 8 level girls easily from down the street. The main action in on a single block which is a lot smaller than centro but feels manageable. Also I haven't been harassed by a beggar once which is really awesome. Less Trans in the mix too. I feel signaficantly safer in Mayorista as long as I don't wonder off from the main area. It is a bit too far from everywhere else (centro, El Poblado) though. The chica ranges from 6 to maximum of 8. No stunners here but there are a number of doable girls around most time of the day. Weekday nights seem to be the better time to partake. On weekends the locals drive up the the demand and the girls aren't as available or abundant. I also assume they travel to other places for clients or just go partying as well. I don't really like SW action too much. The rooms the girls want to bring you to is purely designed to bleed money off of you. Some girls are okay looking with not much skill, then ask for more money or drinks and such. Of course I fee like the girl is getting cut. Overall, the room cost can far exceed the cost of the girl. I heard anywhere from 40 K to 70 K per half an hour for the girl only. The room cost ranged from 15 K to 50 K. I am assuming the wide range is because I am an obvious gringo with no Spanish. The winning move is to bring the girl to your hotel which cut the cost down a lot. Of course you'll have to check with your hotel first, and make sure she has ID on her. However, I have never felt safe doing that yet, especially with unproven girls. I'll have to found an arrangement that works for me.
Centro SW scene is bigger grander, a bit more interesting, and quite a bit more dangerous. On previous visits, I strolled the Centro SW area every night, which was not smart. I have never seen another gringo at night which is telling. I'm sure there are other gringos but not enough that we would run into each other. The girls can range from 5 to a very rare 9. (only one time) Price can range from 30 K to 70 K per half an hour and the room cost from 15 k and up. Again, most of time I'm offered the "gringo with no Spanish pays more" price. (I still negotiate down) A whole lot of girls but doable girls are a smaller percentage. I find the hissing sound they make funny as it matches some of the girls personality, and it is best to stay away. Girls are far more aggressive as well. Beggars and trans are a significantly bigger and constant problem than la mayorista. Again, it's best to pull the girl to your nearby hotel to avoid the crazy room cost per session. I rather pay the girl a little more than pay the room cost per session. All nights have a lot of girls but on weekends the number of girls explode. Unfortunately, drunk locals up the demand (it's their city) and can be really be possessive with the better looking girls, whether the girl likes it or not. Safety, an active awareness of your surroundings, techniques to avoid conflict cannot be stressed enough. Stay in the streets where taxi's are easily available. Hide into casinos if you feel being targeted. And you should be long gone before the street food vendors start packing up for the night. The police presence provides a false sense of security. They are not really present to protect gringos and they disappear rather early in the night. The centro Strip clubs are also an option. They also have a small interested of keeping the order so it's safer. But somehow you will find some disturbingly unattractive girls in the mix. You can find 7 to 9's pretty easy with a price from 80 k and up with the onsite room. In my opinion, centro strip clubs are not the place to take too much time with your selection as the cost can rack up even before being with the girl. To start strip-club expects you to buy drinks. (obviously) The other cost is the customary tipping once a girl gets off stage of P1000 to P2000. And this can be the fattest laziest "your eyes are bleeding" kinda dancing with no pole tricks. You can refuse to tip but it's going to be a big hassle after every dance. (every 5 minutes) It is also the case that even the door man keeps asking for tips once they remember your face. My advice, pick the girls quickly and get her number to hopefully arrange a meetup at your hotel later on. The girls also keep really irregular hours with no really schedule, and would suddenly disappear or walk out. So get the girls when you see them quickly. Downtown casas are my favorite. Unfortunately, the girls I cultivated in my previous trips are no longer working in casas. This trip I find the quality of girls to be lacking from the previous trips. So I am starting from square one, auditioning girls hard 5 or 6 times a day. Those casa stairs make my knees ache just by looking at them. Casas so far have ranged from 35 K to 40 K per half an hour, 65 k and up for hour. I recommend collecting cards off the streets as they have interesting promo rates at new or old casas. I have found one "it" girl which I am thanking the almighty for. Need better Cardio and the awesome empanadas aren't helping.
C Jack Sparrow
05-13-17, 10:24
I have been to MDE a few times but most of my Colombia trips are focused on Cartagena. On my last MDE trip, I spent some time with a family, who I had met previously, and the daughter in the family told me that she and her BF, a paisano, had recently moved from El Poblado to Sabaneta. They both still work in Parque LLeras area and have professional jobs. At the time, I thought Sabaneta was a rural area, outside of MDE, but recently discovered this community actually has light rail connections to central MDE, less expensive long term accommodations, and most important a lively night life on the weekends with many clubs and restaurants located in and around a bustling town plaza. I was under the impression from researching this area that many middle class paisanas also go to the dance clubs and restaurants though no mention of P4 P but, nevertheless, the chance to meet regular girls sounds appealing.
I am wondering if any BM's live or hang out there and can offer opinions about Sabaneta. In addition to the other features I mentioned above, it is said to be less polluted and hectic than central MDE and has a small town feel though with easy access to El Poblado etc.
My only concern about Sabaneta appears to be the weather. On my weather app, it appears that constant rain or chance of rain seems to be a prevalent weather pattern here (for the next ten days) or is the spring time considered rainy season.The Family that have "adopted" me has their family base in Sabaneta. The barrio is new, fresh, have all you need. I strongly recommend it. Another place, where this family has is restaurant is arround Estadio Girardot; it's close to Parque Natural, Apartahotel Montes (which is a new hotel with low prices, a lot of business men often open have a beer with their prepagos on the little outside cafe / restaurant, which I never seen before so openly), the new massage place and good old Energy (nowadays overpriced), and a little area called Suramericana where you can rent apartments cheap. Lot's of bars and small restaurants. And you can walk to La 70 in 10 min. Sabaneta feel like the realistic place for an mddle income western guy, for vacation or long-term stays, living permanently. Poblado: It's even more expensive than "at home", especially the malls. And it's far away from everything! So why go there? To met other extranjeros and see your bank account get empty very fast, making the experience a tradgedy. Anyway, despite poverty and violence, Medellin has a vibrant nightlife and dirt cheap taxi, tennis, gym filled with 3/4 nude babes, malls, Juan Valdez, Parque Explora and many many other things. Besides having the best climate in the world (a slighly minus for the height 1500 m above sea level). Sabaneta is well worth a try after some further investigations. Medellin is growing at a fast pace, but it not always turns out well. A part of Bello fell apart 2012, due to building in areas with heavy water pressure coming down into the valley Aburra and are a constant problem, since cheating with the construction-quality has been abundant due to the huge demand after 2002, and the population density is extreme, so we might see new Sabanetas growing up or old poor barrios up on the hills change status. And paisas will always be willing to have sex with extranjeros, it's in their DNA. And being overall good looking this is Paradise Medellin (Old Frank Casio term). Many the same or even better basic conditions exist in Arequipa, Cusco in Peru, but the girl are not hot, it's like they have a different DNA, and nor are they beautiful, and if they are, they become arrogant. Arequipas sexscene is like 1% of Medellin's. (But there shall be a good place under "the old bridge" that I missed, but the girls there -are said to be from- Colombia).
Also look at around a place in Laureles that is called "El Cafetero". It's has a Bodytech gym and Exito and a EPS (health care) center. Further up the avenue there are restaurants, bars etc. Santa Teresita it's called and are coming on strong. If you like the gym, go there before the girls go to work and you will see enough female beauty than you do in a costly night at Parque Lleras.
Many place I know, are shown to me by paisas and paisa-friends. So the language is the key!
Thank you, Jack Sparrow. I actually lived in Cusco for two years, several years ago, and have to agree the woman are not attractive, provincial, and quite conservative as well. The only chance to get laid was perhaps to meet a girl from Lima who might travel there for a short vacation but never could quite pull that off to conclusion. For a time, I was getting laid through a Peruvian guy I met on this board who hooked me up with a young local girl. After a time, she decided to raise her 'price' and I bid her adieu. I used to save my pennies so I could take a discount priced flight to Lima. There aren't even massage places in Cusco that offer he.
A year after I left, a 'mall' opened up in Cusco. It was rather small but had an escalator, the only one in Cusco besides the airport, but they had to station a guard at the bottom to instruct some of the locals how to use this transport mode.
I also spent time in Arequipa. It's a nice pretty town with a generally good climate -- better than Lima. However, the women, though more attractive than their Cusco counterparts, were equally conservative. There is no P4 P that I was aware of though I did go to a massage place that had rooms but found the girls in the end were not worth the effort.
But I appreciate your comments on Sabaneta. It sounds more and more like a nice place. Like you, I also have an adopted family in MDE. In fact, the daughter I mentioned tried to set me up with her Mom. She's an attractive woman for her age but speaks little English and does not fall into the hottie category. The only issue is to keep my wandering eye in neutral when I am with
'mi familia'.
Thanks see. Jack Sparrow. I actually lived in Cusco for two years, several years ago, and have to agree the woman are not attractive, provincial, and quite conservative as well. The only chance to get laid was perhaps to meet a girl from Lima who might travel there for a short vacation but never could quite pull that off to conclusion. For a time, I was getting laid through a Peruvian guy I met on this board who hooked me up with a young local girl. After a time, she decided to raise her 'price' and I bid her adieu. I used to save my pennies so I could take a discount priced flight to Lima. There aren't even massage places in Cusco that offer he.
A year after I left, a 'mall' opened up in Cusco. It was rather small but had an escalator, the only one in Cusco besides the airport, but they had to station a guard at the bottom to instruct some of the locals how to use this transport mode.
I also spent time in Arequipa. It's a nice pretty town with a generally good climate -- better than Lima. However, the women, though more attractive than their Cusco counterparts, were equally conservative. There is no P4 P that I was aware of though I did go to a massage place that had rooms but found the girls in the end were not worth the effort.
But I appreciate your comments on Sabaneta. It sounds more and more like a nice place. Like you, I also have an adopted family in MDE. In fact, the daughter I mentioned tried to set me up with her Mom. She's an attractive woman for her age but speaks little English and does not fall into the hottie category. The only issue is to keep my wandering eye in neutral when I am with.
'mi familia'.
El Mechanico
05-13-17, 15:49
Or 'y'all' which is not a word of any kind in English. Y'all = conjunction (I think, I'm not an English major) for You All. Y'all refers to a group of people instead of the singular you.
"I'll see Y'all later!" is telling a group (more than one) of people that I will see them later. As opposed to "I will see you later!" which could be misunderstood for I will see you later but I will not see the rest of the people in the group later!
Y'all have a good Day!
El Mechanico.
P.S. Why does this software change capital Ys to WHY?
PickCherry12
05-13-17, 17:42
Can anyone recommend an apartment near Parque Lleras? I'm sure someone has given this info already but I can't seem to find it. Last time I stayed in a hotel and had to pay every time I brought a chica over.
Medellin has 16 comunas (districts), 5 corregimientos (townships), and 271 barrios. So for the non-locals when discussing a good neighborhood it would be helpful if you listed some major cross roads or geographical features that would make it easier to find on a map.
The Family that have "adopted" me has their family base in Sabaneta. The barrio is new, fresh, have all you need. I strongly recommend it. Another place, where this family has is restaurant is arround Estadio Girardot; it's close to Parque Natural, Apartahotel Montes (which is a new hotel with low prices, a lot of business men often open have a beer with their prepagos on the little outside cafe / restaurant, which I never seen before so openly), the new massage place and good old Energy (nowadays overpriced), and a little area called Suramericana where you can rent apartments cheap. Lot's of bars and small restaurants. And you can walk to La 70 in 10 min. Sabaneta feel like the realistic place for an mddle income western guy, for vacation or long-term stays, living permanently. Poblado: It's even more expensive than "at home", especially the malls. And it's far away from everything! So why go there? To met other extranjeros and see your bank account get empty very fast, making the experience a tradgedy. Anyway, despite poverty and violence, Medellin has a vibrant nightlife and dirt cheap taxi, tennis, gym filled with 3/4 nude babes, malls, Juan Valdez, Parque Explora and many many other things. Besides having the best climate in the world (a slighly minus for the height 1500 m above sea level). Sabaneta is well worth a try after some further investigations. Medellin is growing at a fast pace, but it not always turns out well. A part of Bello fell apart 2012, due to building in areas with heavy water pressure coming down into the valley Aburra and are a constant problem, since cheating with the construction-quality has been abundant due to the huge demand after 2002, and the population density is extreme, so we might see new Sabanetas growing up or old poor barrios up on the hills change status...
In English, "you" is both singular and plural, depending on who you are addressing. Some say "you all" is a Southern saying, but people in the North use it also.
30,000 including room is the going rate for SWs near the Museo de Antioquia. If you pay more you are getting ripped off.
Centro SW scene is bigger grander, a bit more interesting, and quite a bit more dangerous. On previous visits, I strolled the Centro SW area every night, which was not smart. I have never seen another gringo at night which is telling. I'm sure there are other gringos but not enough that we would run into each other. The girls can range from 5 to a very rare 9. (only one time) Price can range from 30 K to 70 K per half an hour and the room cost from 15 k and up. Again, most of time I'm offered the "gringo with no Spanish pays more" price. (I still negotiate down) A whole lot of girls but doable girls are a smaller percentage. I find the hissing sound they make funny as it matches some of the girls personality, and it is best to stay away. Girls are far more aggressive as well. Beggars and trans are a significantly bigger and constant problem than la mayorista. Again, it's best to pull the girl to your nearby hotel to avoid the crazy room cost per session. I rather pay the girl a little more than pay the room cost per session. All nights have a lot of girls but on weekends the number of girls explode. Unfortunately, drunk locals up the demand (it's their city) and can be really be possessive with the better looking girls, whether the girl likes it or not. Safety, an active awareness of your surroundings, techniques to avoid conflict cannot be stressed enough. Stay in the streets where taxi's are easily available. Hide into casinos if you feel being targeted. And you should be long gone before the street food vendors start packing up for the night. The police presence provides a false sense of security. They are not really present to protect gringos and they disappear rather early in the night. The centro Strip clubs are also an option. They also have a small interested of keeping the order so it's safer..
Some say "you all" is a Southern saying, but people in the North use it also.Yeah, people in the north who grew up in the south.
I spent a week cruising the Centro SW's (not so much streetwalker's as unaffiliated hookers who have a nearby hotel IMO) and I paid 30,000 including the room. I am fluent in Spanish though,. Personally I would be long gone by sundown, even before 5 when the locals show up. Did you cruise more the VeraCruz little white church block (which I liked) or the Raudal corner of Calle 53/ Ave de Greiff & Carrera 54 area? (which I didn't like, seemed more dangerous).
And compared to the Hi-end clubs like Fase II I thought the Centro strip clubs were great and reasonably priced. Are you really bitching about tipping a girl 1,000/2,000 p which is like $.33 to $.66 cents? Take's a while before that adds up to anything. And better then the girls thinking you are a cheap SOB. LOL.
YMMV.
Centro SW scene is bigger grander, a bit more interesting, and quite a bit more dangerous. On previous visits, I strolled the Centro SW area every night, which was not smart. I have never seen another gringo at night which is telling. I'm sure there are other gringos but not enough that we would run into each other. The girls can range from 5 to a very rare 9. (only one time) Price can range from 30 K to 70 K per half an hour and the room cost from 15 k and up. Again, most of time I'm offered the "gringo with no Spanish pays more" price. (I still negotiate down) A whole lot of girls but doable girls are a smaller percentage. I find the hissing sound they make funny as it matches some of the girls personality, and it is best to stay away. Girls are far more aggressive as well. Beggars and trans are a significantly bigger and constant problem than la mayorista. Again, it's best to pull the girl to your nearby hotel to avoid the crazy room cost per session. I rather pay the girl a little more than pay the room cost per session. All nights have a lot of girls but on weekends the number of girls explode. Unfortunately, drunk locals up the demand (it's their city) and can be really be possessive with the better looking girls, whether the girl likes it or not. Safety, an active awareness of your surroundings, techniques to avoid conflict cannot be stressed enough. Stay in the streets where taxi's are easily available. Hide into casinos if you feel being targeted. And you should be long gone before the street food vendors start packing up for the night. The police presence provides a false sense of security. They are not really present to protect gringos and they disappear rather early in the night. The centro Strip clubs are also an option. They also have a small interested of keeping the order so it's safer..
BTW, which Centro strip clubs were you in?
I liked Conejitas the most followed by Barre Ejectiva, didn't care much for Maracaibo or Grille Nueva Avenida (just to the right of Conejitas).
Didn't make it into Bar Occidental or Taberna Victoria.
Centro SW scene is bigger grander, a bit more interesting, and quite a bit more dangerous. On previous visits, I strolled the Centro SW area every night, which was not smart. I have never seen another gringo at night which is telling. I'm sure there are other gringos but not enough that we would run into each other. The girls can range from 5 to a very rare 9. (only one time) Price can range from 30 K to 70 K per half an hour and the room cost from 15 k and up. Again, most of time I'm offered the "gringo with no Spanish pays more" price. (I still negotiate down) A whole lot of girls but doable girls are a smaller percentage. I find the hissing sound they make funny as it matches some of the girls personality, and it is best to stay away. Girls are far more aggressive as well. Beggars and trans are a significantly bigger and constant problem than la mayorista. Again, it's best to pull the girl to your nearby hotel to avoid the crazy room cost per session. I rather pay the girl a little more than pay the room cost per session. All nights have a lot of girls but on weekends the number of girls explode. Unfortunately, drunk locals up the demand (it's their city) and can be really be possessive with the better looking girls, whether the girl likes it or not. Safety, an active awareness of your surroundings, techniques to avoid conflict cannot be stressed enough. Stay in the streets where taxi's are easily available. Hide into casinos if you feel being targeted. And you should be long gone before the street food vendors start packing up for the night. The police presence provides a false sense of security. They are not really present to protect gringos and they disappear rather early in the night. The centro Strip clubs are also an option. They also have a small interested of keeping the order so it's safer..
YippieKayay
05-13-17, 20:34
Centro SW scene is bigger grander, a bit more interesting, and quite a bit more dangerous. On previous visits, I strolled the Centro SW area every night, which was not smart. I have never seen another gringo at night which is telling.What were your late hours like in Centro? Was it only the Veracruz area?
How late did you stay at Mayorista? Were there cabs on the strip ready to take you back home?
Unfortunately, drunk locals up the demand (it's their city) and can be really be possessive with the better looking girls
Drunks being possessive sounds like a recipe for disaster.
The centro Strip clubs are also an option. They also have a small interested of keeping the order so it's safer. But somehow you will find some disturbingly unattractive girls in the mix. You can find 7 to 9's pretty easy with a price from 80 k and up with the onsite room. In my opinion, centro strip clubs are not the place to take too much time with your selection as the cost can rack up even before being with the girl. To start strip-club expects you to buy drinks. (obviously) The other cost is the customary tipping once a girl gets off stage of P1000 to P2000. And this can be the fattest laziest "your eyes are bleeding" kinda dancing with no pole tricks. You can refuse to tip but it's going to be a big hassle after every dance. (every 5 minutes) It is also the case that even the door man keeps asking for tips once they remember your face. My advice, pick the girls quickly and get her number to hopefully arrange a meetup at your hotel later on. The girls also keep really irregular hours with no really schedule, and would suddenly disappear or walk out. So get the girls when you see them quickly. .All though I do agree it's painful to tip the real bow-wow's, my avoidance technique involved either a trip to the bathroom or walk out to the front door like I was on a cel call.
Also earlier in the day the stage was empty at least half the time. I mean they are really just brothels masquerading as strip clubs.
What were your late hours like in Centro? Was it only the Veracruz area?
How late did you stay at Mayorista? Were there cabs on the strip ready to take you back home?
Drunks being possessive sounds like a recipe for disaster.All over Centro at night gets more dangerous.
You have to keep your eyes open and your stupidity down.
Be paranoid.
I was there last night, but with a buddy, so much better.
Much easier when you got eachother's back. Also it's harder to mug two guys than one.
I met am old favorite that I incredibly enough had met on the streets of Centro.
Love Motel for a few hours.
I brought her an unexpected refurbed iPhone 5. Looked brand new.
She came unglued with the love, LOL.
The Mayo has taxis there all night long into the wee hours to take you wherever you want to go.
Also hit the Mansion for an employee going-away party. Got invited.
Lots of beautiful Paisas there!!
Some cool guys there, however, funny how the macho high testosterone guys there like to flex their muscles and show their babe off.
Good for them though that they escape from pussy prison for some excitement.
I get it.
Some talk about it, some actually do it.
Travel and enjoy.
This was not such a good ad for the Mansion. I can't say you made me want to check it out.
All over Centro at night gets more dangerous.
You have to keep your eyes open and your stupidity down.
Be paranoid.
I was there last night, but with a buddy, so much better.
Much easier when you got eachother's back. Also it's harder to mug two guys than one.
I met am old favorite that I incredibly enough had met on the streets of Centro.
Love Motel for a few hours.
I brought her an unexpected refurbed iPhone 5. Looked brand new.
She came unglued with the love, LOL..
More than a few girls at Veracruz told me they go home before dark. That was enough to convince me to keep my ass away from there after dark. Good luck.
What were your late hours like in Centro? Was it only the Veracruz area?
How late did you stay at Mayorista? Were there cabs on the strip ready to take you back home?
Drunks being possessive sounds like a recipe for disaster.
YippieKayay
05-13-17, 23:34
Can anyone recommend an apartment near Parque Lleras? I'm sure someone has given this info already but I can't seem to find it. Last time I stayed in a hotel and had to pay every time I brought a chica over.Airbnb is full of them. Look for ones without a doorman and / or are run by a business. There's at least two companies that rent out apartments in Colombia and they have a bunch around parque lleras. I hope you like noise, though.
2,000 pesos is the normal tip. I feel better about handing out 2,000 pesos tips to the ugliest women in the strip clubs than I do about paying 2,000 to see a sub standard casa lineup. Of course, 2,000 pesos is meaningless to anyone with the money to travel to Colombia from abroad.
All though I do agree it's painful to tip the real bow-wow's, my avoidance technique involved either a trip to the bathroom or walk out to the front door like I was on a cel call.
Also earlier in the day the stage was empty at least half the time. I mean they are really just brothels masquerading as strip clubs.
PepolesBuddy
05-14-17, 13:27
Any review sites similar to therroticreview for medellin?
C Jack Sparrow
05-14-17, 14:34
Anyone been with this bombshell?
http://www.paisasdivinas.com/sara/sara-prepago-universitaria.php
I have received much good information from this forum in the past and these reports are my way of contributing back to the source. I am of a novice level. So my report, opinions or so-called advice" should be taken with that in mind. Always trust the posts of the more experience members as they are the reason I can enjoy Medellin right now. Today was a centro and late Mayorista day. Instead of finding new prospects, I spent the afternoon with my first "it" girl. Man that loving was good. The rest of the afternoon was spent recovering from all the running around. After taking care of some errands it was night time at centro. Most of my experiences have been at night so far. I tip my hat to the gentleman who gets 30 K sessions during the day. Remind me there are higher levels in this hobby and I thrive to be there one day. The latest I ever been out was at 3 am and there is no godly reason to do so. It is very dangerous at that hour and no gems are going to stick it out that late ever. I'd say midnight is the lastest you should be at centro and should be fully sober for safety reasons. I walked about the area in front of the white church, behind the church, and the two streets west of the strip clubs where most of the bars with the flashing multi color lights are. The two streets west of the strip club is the main area and it is really sketchy. A lot beggars and drugged up people walking around. The locals were having a good time though. They are not the most classy or well off locals but it is their city and their time to party. I was happy to see them enjoying themselves. Again no gringos in sight. And of course there are the girls. The selection topped off at 7 with a rare few 8's. The area in front and behind the church is even sketchier at night with the hint of grime. The only level 9 girl I ran into was going home early but I got her number though. If you do go to centro at night, please do not go any further than the last bar with the flashing lights in any direction, and never take the dark narrow side streets. I passed by those areas on my taxi ride back and I still wish I can un-see what I saw. It's just really a saddening and dangerous sight. I was quoted 65 k to 85 k with rooms per half an hour. In the end, I didn't find a girl I liked or worth the risk so to speak, and moved on to the strip clubs.
The strip clubs in general staff more beautiful girls with a higher price, and a lot of times the girls set the price. From my previous experience, I agree with the more experience gentleman on this forum that Conejitas and Barre Ejecutiva are my favorite. Those who been to Barre Ejecutiva know the interesting men's bathroom. I partook on a previous trip. Barre Ejecutiva was mildly occupied with some solid selections available (mostly 8's). I had an eye on a slim cutie on stage and to my surprise she did one or two basic pole tricks. I tipped her when she came around but her pissy attitude sucked and I passed. I was quoted from 70 K to 90 K for half an hour from various girls, only staying around 20 minutes. Conetijas was next, which I liked better. If you know Conejitas you know the spiral staircase behind the locker room. They used to ring a really loud and annoying bell multiple times when someone walks in the club. They didn't last night, and I hope they never do again. Contigas was having a good night, just packed around 11 pm. Because it was packed, there was no pressure to tip dancers as half the locals refused to tip girls they didn't like. I got to only tip the girls which I thought were deserving (at least a nice attitude) and I was much happier than on my previous visits. Oddly, some really solid girls were available. I had 3 quality girls I was interested in and they were all ready to go. As the locals tend to only buy drinks and hang around, a lot of the girls were trying but failing and bored. I took up the hottest girl that I liked on her offer, and luckily it turned out she had a fun attitude. Another "it" girl found. The funny thing is after I took one girl upstairs, a number of girls started to actively proposition me all over. (Must have been a slow night) I was quoted anywhere from 70 K to 90 K for half an hour with room. I recommend fase dose down south closer to el poblado if you want a bigger selection of hot girls. They have a cover and I think it's over 150 K for 45 minutes. But many gringos love it. I had my fun and I left to La mayorista. When I arrived at La mayorista, it was well past midnight. I immediately noticed how much I safer I felt than the streets of centro. As evidence of that I saw two gringos happily doing their thing. I had one session in La mayorista before which didn't work out. So I pressed to find something good this time. A few 7's and 8's were still around. I was offered anywhere from 70 to 90 K for half an hour including the room. Still think I'm getting the gringo with no spanish price. Unfortunately, I didn't feel for any of them and didn't partake. There is potential in La mayorista and I really want to make it work. We'll see what happens. Signing off.
Anyone been with this bombshell?
http://www.paisasdivinas.com/sara/sara-prepago-universitaria.phpDang, I'd like to see a review of her too.
Also this one:
VALENANGEL 31XXXXX87, Beautiful and voluptuous blonde waiting for you to come and make me come pouring with your tongue.
https://www.photoprepagos.com/hermosa-y-voluptuosa-rubia-que-espera-a-que-vengas-a-hacerme-venir-a-chorros-con-tu-lengua-id-y2njv
I wish *** gad a Colombia section.
Wow, I can't believe that somebody would make a big deal out of tipping less than $1 to a girl who gets up on stage. And this cheap charlie thinks it's OK not to tip. F'and A. Whether you think the chica is hot or not, or whether you liked her dancing ability, but she just got up on stage and danced. In my opinion, she deserves a tip. Seriously, if you don't agree, why do you even go? You must expect them to dance for free since I don't think they get paid anything other than the tips, drinks, and sessions.
Regarding Centro and Mayorista. Those are not places for gringos to be. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel. You will rarely find a gringo that isn't counting every peso. If you can afford a trip to Colombia, do you really want to look through a sea of 4-5's to find the occasional 7 while putting yourself in harm's way?
I have gone once on my first trip just to see what it was like but haven't been since and don't plan on ever going again, unless maybe some newbie asks me to show it to him once.
Regarding Centro and Mayorista. Those are not places for gringos to be. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel. You will rarely find a gringo that isn't counting every peso. If you can afford a trip to Colombia, do you really want to look through a sea of 4-5's to find the occasional 7 while putting yourself in harm's way?Different stroke for different folks.
The Casa's where they parade the girls by and you have to choose from that feels too much like a canned hunt to me. I had fun cruising the red light zones and hunting down my prey in a dangerous part of town. LOL.
Although really in daylight it didn't seem very dangerous to me, nothing like Kandahar. LOL. At night, yeah, then it gets a lot more dicey and I stuck to the strip clubs.
And a 18 to 20 yo 7 to 8 for $10 is just too good to pass up for me, I do have somewhat of a budget. I kicked myself for not getting one of my VeraCruz girls numbers, she was hot and fun.
Wow, I can't believe that somebody would make a big deal out of tipping less than $1 to a girl who gets up on stage. And this cheap charlie thinks it's ok not to tip. F'and A. Whether you think the chica is hot or not, or whether you liked her dancing ability, but she just got up on stage and danced. In my opinion, she deserves a tip. Seriously, if you don't agree, why do you even go? You must expect them to dance for free since I don't think they get paid anything other than the tips, drinks, and sessions.
Regarding Centro and Mayorista. Those are not places for gringos to be. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel. You will rañrely find a gringo that isn't counting every peso. If you can afford a trip to Colombia, do you really want to look through a sea of 4-5's to find the occasional 7 while putting yourself in harm's way?
I have gone once on my first trip just to see what it was like but haven't been since and don't plan on ever going again, unless maybe some newbie asks me to show it to him once.Although it's not my bread and butter, Centro can be fun as a change of pace. You definitely have to watch your ass, but there are gems to be found. I think the searching and the danger may actually add a thrill for some hobbyists.
Agree on the tipping to strippers. I look at it as part of hanging out in the club. Even if the chica is ugly, I still smile and give her 2 mil pesos.
Mr Enternational
05-15-17, 03:49
If you know Conejitas you know the spiral staircase behind the locker room. They used to ring a really loud and annoying bell multiple times when someone walks in the club. They didn't last night, and I hope they never do again.Great reports. At Conejita's I like to go in and press the button myself before the door guy can do it. I also press it on the way out.
Mr Enternational
05-15-17, 03:58
Wow, I can't believe that somebody would make a big deal out of tipping less than $1 to a girl who gets up on stage. And this cheap charlie thinks it's ok not to tip. F'and A. Whether you think the chica is hot or not, or whether you liked her dancing ability, but she just got up on stage and danced. In my opinion, she deserves a tip. Seriously, if you don't agree, why do you even go?No idea. Why do the locals go? Maybe you need to go school those el cheapo Colombianos on what the dancers deserve from them. As Number43 stated, "there was no pressure to tip dancers as half the locals refused to tip girls they didn't like." It's called a gratuity, not an obligation. One foreigner in the place and he should shoulder the burden for what end? If the locals do not feel the need to do it then why would you? Everyone seems to want to dress like locals, walk like locals, and do other shit like locals; but when it comes down to pussy, fuck what the locals do because the gringo knows better than them. One more gringo heading down to fuck things up the same as the back home he is trying to get away from. Move over Rio, Sosua, and Cartagena.
P.S. Any idea why this custom-made sign inside of the locker room in a hooker den in Brazil is in English and not Portuguese? Hint: Because Brazilians fucking know better! So there is no need to even suggest it in the local language. In that place even the cashiers ask foreigners for tips when they cash them out. Didn't used to be that way though.
Although it's not my bread and butter, Centro can be fun as a change of pace. You definitely have to watch your ass, but there are gems to be found. I think the searching and the danger may actually add a thrill for some hobbyists.
Agree on the tipping to strippers. I look at it as part of hanging out in the club. Even if the chica is ugly, I still smile and give her 2 mil pesos.Agree with everything you said here. I tip them all. A 1 k or 2 k tip isn't going to throw off the economics and helps make up for the cheap guys who don't tip at all. I also go to the centro for the thrill a bit. It's kind of fun looking for a gem and if you find one you can usually have a session back at your place for round 2. It's also much easier when you're done, you just pay and leave! I've had more than a few times in the past where I wanted a chic to leave my condo so I could sleep / work / fuck another girl and she wouldn't or would drag her feet. It sucked!
Any review sites similar to therroticreview for medellin?Yes, here: http://catadordeprepagosmedallo.com/.
In spanish and simple ;)
Anyone been with this bombshell?
http://www.paisasdivinas.com/sara/sara-prepago-universitaria.phpI don't see any contact info in the ads on paisasdivnas?
How do you get ahold of them?
No idea. Why do the locals go? Maybe you need to go school those el cheapo Colombianos on what the dancers deserve from them. As Number43 stated, "there was no pressure to tip dancers as half the locals refused to tip girls they didn't like." It's called a gratuity, not an obligation. One foreigner in the place and he should shoulder the burden for what end? If the locals do not feel the need to do it then why would you? Everyone seems to want to dress like locals, walk like locals, and do other shit like locals; but when it comes down to pussy, fuck what the locals do because the gringo knows better than them. One more gringo heading down to fuck things up the same as the back home he is trying to get away from. Move over Rio, Sosua, and Cartagena.
P.S. Any idea why this custom-made sign inside of the locker room in a hooker den in Brazil is in English and not Portuguese? Hint: Because Brazilians fucking know better! So there is no need to even suggest it in the local language. In that place even the cashiers ask foreigners for tips when they cash them out. Didn't used to be that way though.You bring up an interesting point. Colombia, like many parts of the World, doesn't have much of a tipping culture. To the dismay of many, when us Norte Americanos show up en mass, the dynamics can and do change.
Agree with everything you said here. I tip them all. A 1 k or 2 k tip isn't going to throw off the economics and helps make up for the cheap guys who don't tip at all. I also go to the centro for the thrill a bit. It's kind of fun looking for a gem and if you find one you can usually have a session back at your place for round 2. It's also much easier when you're done, you just pay and leave! I've had more than a few times in the past where I wanted a chic to leave my condo so I could sleep / work / fuck another girl and she wouldn't or would drag her feet. It sucked!That's why I never understood why guys up-front offer a girl double the money to commit to all night. If you do short-time and get along well with her, I've found that frequently she'll be happy to stay with you the rest of the night for no extra fee. Of course, you may not get on well with her (maybe her pussy stinks), and you'll want her to leave! In which case you'll regret committing to TLN.
You are no longer a novice.
I have received much good information from this forum in the past and these reports are my way of contributing back to the source. I am of a novice level. So my report, opinions or so-called advice" should be taken with that in mind. Always trust the posts of the more experience members as they are the reason I can enjoy Medellin right now. Today was a centro and late Mayorista day. Instead of finding new prospects, I spent the afternoon with my first "it" girl. Man that loving was good. The rest of the afternoon was spent recovering from all the running around. After taking care of some errands it was night time at centro. Most of my experiences have been at night so far. I tip my hat to the gentleman who gets 30 K sessions during the day. Remind me there are higher levels in this hobby and I thrive to be there one day. The latest I ever been out was at 3 am and there is no godly reason to do so. It is very dangerous at that hour and no gems are going to stick it out that late ever. I'd say midnight is the lastest you should be at centro and should be fully sober for safety reasons. I walked about the area in front of the white church, behind the church, and the two streets west of the strip clubs where most of the bars with the flashing multi color lights are. The two streets west of the strip club is the main area and it is really sketchy. A lot beggars and drugged up people walking around. The locals were having a good time though. They are not the most classy or well off locals but it is their city and their time to party. I was happy to see them enjoying themselves. Again no gringos in sight. And of course there are the girls. The selection topped off at 7 with a rare few 8's. The area in front and behind the church is even sketchier at night with the hint of grime. The only level 9 girl I ran into was going home early but I got her number though. If you do go to centro at night, please do not go any further than the last bar with the flashing lights in any direction, and never take the dark narrow side streets. I passed by those areas on my taxi ride back and I still wish I can un-see what I saw. It's just really a saddening and dangerous sight. I was quoted 65 k to 85 k with rooms per half an hour. In the end, I didn't find a girl I liked or worth the risk so to speak, and moved on to the strip clubs.
I agree with your comments about tipping. I think you speak very authoritatively about a place you say you visited just once.
Wow, I can't believe that somebody would make a big deal out of tipping less than $1 to a girl who gets up on stage. And this cheap charlie thinks it's ok not to tip. F'and A. Whether you think the chica is hot or not, or whether you liked her dancing ability, but she just got up on stage and danced. In my opinion, she deserves a tip. Seriously, if you don't agree, why do you even go? You must expect them to dance for free since I don't think they get paid anything other than the tips, drinks, and sessions.
Regarding Centro and Mayorista. Those are not places for gringos to be. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel. You will rarely find a gringo that isn't counting every peso. If you can afford a trip to Colombia, do you really want to look through a sea of 4-5's to find the occasional 7 while putting yourself in harm's way?
I have gone once on my first trip just to see what it was like but haven't been since and don't plan on ever going again, unless maybe some newbie asks me to show it to him once..
I agree with your comments about tipping. I think you speak very authoritatively about a place you say you visited just once.Once was more than enough to realize what it is and what it isn't.
No idea. Why do the locals go? Maybe you need to go school those el cheapo Colombianos on what the dancers deserve from them. As Number43 stated, "there was no pressure to tip dancers as half the locals refused to tip girls they didn't like." It's called a gratuity, not an obligation. One foreigner in the place and he should shoulder the burden for what end? If the locals do not feel the need to do it then why would you? Everyone seems to want to dress like locals, walk like locals, and do other shit like locals; but when it comes down to pussy, fuck what the locals do because the gringo knows better than them. One more gringo heading down to fuck things up the same as the back home he is trying to get away from. Move over Rio, Sosua, and Cartagena.I'll call BS on the "half the locals didn't tip". I have been to centro strip clubs a dozen times at least, and never have I seen more than a couple locals not tipping, and they didn't tip any girl, not just the "ugly" ones. Probably cheap charlies who expect to see pussy up close for the price of a beer they nurse for 4 hours. They exist everywhere.
And I'm not advocating throwing tips around to anybody with a hand out, but when it's deserved. I would never tip a bouncer at these places, which some guys do (because he let you in or because he calls you his amigo? LOL) but a chica who gets naked on stage deserves it.
Honestly, the only guys that I hear the "act like locals. " mantra from are guys who always follow that up with "locals don't tip".
I don't see any contact info in the ads on paisasdivnas?
How do you get ahold of them?That ad says she is on vacation, so that is why there is no contact info. 'On vacation' most likely means getting fucked to death in Curacao or Panamá.
SavePros321
05-16-17, 10:51
That ad says she is on vacation, so that is why there is no contact info. 'On vacation' most likely means getting fucked to death in Curacao or Panam.I took it to mean she's left the game either temporarily or for good.
I'll call BS on the "half the locals didn't tip". I have been to centro strip clubs a dozen times at least, and never have I seen more than a couple locals not tipping, and they didn't tip any girl, not just the "ugly" ones. Probably cheap charlies who expect to see pussy up close for the price of a beer they nurse for 4 hours. They exist everywhere.
And I'm not advocating throwing tips around to anybody with a hand out, but when it's deserved. I would never tip a bouncer at these places, which some guys do (because he let you in or because he calls you his amigo? LOL) but a chica who gets naked on stage deserves it.
Honestly, the only guys that I hear the "act like locals. " mantra from are guys who always follow that up with "locals don't tip".Why sweat it either way? When I was a strip club regular in the US, I usually tipped $1 to most of the dancers, but declined when they came around looking for more. I found it annoying that many guys weren't even tipping the waitress a quarter for their $3. 75 beer.
However, at least in those clubs at that time, tips and lapdances were the only things the dancers got paid for. The clubs here are brothels with a dance floor. How many are actually dancing well enough to make you want to tip?
If you feel like tipping, tip. The world won't end because you tipped a dozen 2 k notes. If you don't feel like tipping, don't. You won't be the first and you won't be the last.
Well said.
Why sweat it either way? When I was a strip club regular in the US, I usually tipped $1 to most of the dancers, but declined when they came around looking for more. I found it annoying that many guys weren't even tipping the waitress a quarter for their $3. 75 beer.
However, at least in those clubs at that time, tips and lapdances were the only things the dancers got paid for. The clubs here are brothels with a dance floor. How many are actually dancing well enough to make you want to tip?
If you feel like tipping, tip. The world won't end because you tipped a dozen 2 k notes. If you don't feel like tipping, don't. You won't be the first and you won't be the last.
Mr Enternational
05-16-17, 13:51
The clubs here are brothels with a dance floor. How many are actually dancing well enough to make you want to tip?I agree with that. I guess it is all perspective. It seems that Queens looks at it as dancing is the main attraction and is how the girls make their living. I look at it as the girls get to dance in order to advertise, hoping someone will choose to pay to fuck them later.
Hell in the brothels in Santo Domingo the girls come give you a lap dance and rub your hands all over their private parts one after another but money does not enter that equation. They do all of that shit to entice you to go to the room where they earn their money.
Another point against tipping in the Colombian brothel/strip clubs is that it is like pulling teeth trying to get the waiters to change your larger bills for 2000 peso bills. Many restaurants and the like that you go to, you can guage whether you are supposed to tip or not by the change you are given when you pay your bill. If your bill is 40 and you give 100 and your change is 3 20s, that tells you that it is not expected for a tip to be given.
YippieKayay
05-16-17, 16:45
I really don't get it.
This isn't about the p4 p chicas. That I understand. They all have a novio. Some of the novios know and some don't.
The non-prepagos are what's puzzling me. One chica I know keeps referring to her boyfriend as "mi hermano" even though they sleep in the same bed and have sexy photos up together on her fb page. Even a Colombian guy I know keeps referring to his girlfriend as his sister even though his fb page is again full of sexy poses with her. And they're not using it as slang I tell you. They really want to make sure I think that their significant other is their sibling. I haven't tried to fuck any of these people so I don't get the point.
What the fuck?
Why sweat it either way? When I was a strip club regular in the US, I usually tipped $1 to most of the dancers, but declined when they came around looking for more. I found it annoying that many guys weren't even tipping the waitress a quarter for their $3. 75 beer.
However, at least in those clubs at that time, tips and lapdances were the only things the dancers got paid for. The clubs here are brothels with a dance floor. How many are actually dancing well enough to make you want to tip?
If you feel like tipping, tip. The world won't end because you tipped a dozen 2 k notes. If you don't feel like tipping, don't. You won't be the first and you won't be the last.Right on brotha!
Why sweat it? LOL.
I really don't get it.
This isn't about the p4 p chicas. That I understand. They all have a novio. Some of the novios know and some don't.
The non-prepagos are what's puzzling me. One chica I know keeps referring to her boyfriend as "mi hermano" even though they sleep in the same bed and have sexy photos up together on her fb page. Even a Colombian guy I know keeps referring to his girlfriend as his sister even though his fb page is again full of sexy poses with her. And they're not using it as slang I tell you. They really want to make sure I think that their significant other is their sibling. I haven't tried to fuck any of these people so I don't get the point.
What the fuck?Is it any different than US girls who are sleeping with their "just a friend?
If she admits to having a novio, then she's taking herself off the market. If she admits to sleeping with her friends she's a puta. Remember, she may have family and friends who see her fb. Telling them she has a novio limits what she can do, or exposes her to criticism.
Every day one of my neighbors tells me "hasta luego" when they get off the elevator. Are they lying because they have no plans to see me later? It's a Colombian way of being polite.
What does it really matter? They are either going to come play with you, or not. Unless you're planning on marrying one and taking her back home, whether she has a boyfriend doesn't matter.
Regarding Centro and Mayorista. Those are not places for gringos to be. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel. You will rarely find a gringo that isn't counting every peso. If you can afford a trip to Colombia, do you really want to look through a sea of 4-5's to find the occasional 7 while putting yourself in harm's way?
I have gone once on my first trip just to see what it was like but haven't been since and don't plan on ever going again, unless maybe some newbie asks me to show it to him once.Speak for yourslf amigo.
Centro or Mayorista may not be for you, however, for others, yes.
Really, I've done the high and low in Medellin, for many years.
Met some babes in the high end of course, however, the true gems, the most humble beauties, I've met either on the streets or in the Centro clubs.
Takes some filtering, definitely spanish skills, however, I enjoy it.
My 2 favoritas now in Medellin are a beautiful 18 year old flaquita I met in Centro a month or so ago, and this past trip I met a beautiful sexy chocolate from the pacific coast in one of the Centro clubs.
Both total GFE plus. I "pay" them whatever I feel like as well, and because they take care of me, I return the favor to them.
Take precautions, don't be stupid, keep your eyes open and you'll be fine.
This was not such a good ad for the Mansion. I can't say you made me want to check it out.Wasn't trying to advertise for the Mansion, they stay full constantly anyway, just an observation.
Centro and Mayorista aren't for rookies, nose pickers, or monoglots. Mayorista is a lot safer than centro, though. Although, anyone who does not know what 'mayorista' means might have a hard time figuring out what its main purpose is.
Centro and Mayorista aren't for rookies, nose pickers, or monoglots. Mayorista is a lot safer than centro, though. Although, anyone who does not know what 'mayorista' means might have a hard time figuring out what its main purpose is.I expect most here who aren't in Mensa would do better with "monolingual".
YMMV.
El Mechanico
05-16-17, 20:05
I just posted this to the CTG Reports but I'll put it here as well & most of you already know this.
Just a heads up here guys, when in the CTG last week I brought mostly cash & exchanged at an exchange house near Torre Centaurio in Laguito & got 2700:1. In El Centro I got 2750:1. I just checked my Schwab statement & got 3153:1 on a 200,000 COP withdrawal & 2965:1 on 2 seperate 300,000 COP withdrawals. Note to self, carry as little cash as possible, use the F-in Schwab card at the ATMs!
El Mechanico.
I just posted this to the CTG Reports but I'll put it here as well & most of you already know this.
Just a heads up here guys, when in the CTG last week I brought mostly cash & exchanged at an exchange house near Torre Centaurio in Laguito & got 2700:1. In El Centro I got 2750:1. I just checked my Schwab statement & got 3153:1 on a 200,000 COP withdrawal & 2965:1 on 2 seperate 300,000 COP withdrawals. Note to self, carry as little cash as possible, use the F-in Schwab card at the ATMs!
El Mechanico.If I had a dollar for every time I posted about that, I'd have about 50,000 COP. You get the average of the bid and the ask for the day. I like E-Trade a little better because the transaction posts immediately, whereas with Schwab it posts the next business day. Both reimburse all ATM fees worldwide (but not foreign transaction fees such as are charged in Panamá).
El Mechanico
05-16-17, 21:41
If I had a dollar for every time I posted about that, I'd have about 50,000 COP. You get the average of the bid and the ask for the day. I like E-Trade a little better because the transaction posts immediately, whereas with Schwab it posts the next business day. Both reimburse all ATM fees worldwide (but not foreign transaction fees such as are charged in Panam).I know, sorry to repeat. Beating a dead horse, I know. I was posting because I didn't realize there was such a difference. I knew the ATMs were a better rate, but I didn't realize it was that much of a difference.
Also, schwab has never charged me ATM fees (like you said) nor have they ever charged me foreign transaction fees.
El Mechanico.
Mr Enternational
05-16-17, 22:31
Also, schwab has never charged me ATM fees (like you said) nor have they ever charged me foreign transaction fees.The ATM fee would not be from Schwab. It would be rolled into the money that you withdrew and charged by the bank whose machine you used. Mine is always refunded around the 27th of each month. I have only had foreign transaction fees from making purchases with credit cards and never from using an ATM with a debit card.
Centro and Mayorista aren't for rookies, nose pickers, or monoglots. Mayorista is a lot safer than centro, though. Although, anyone who does not know what 'mayorista' means might have a hard time figuring out what its main purpose is.Speaking of Mayorista, some excellent, cheap food on the third level of Centro Comercial Mayorista. Spent 11 k for soup, salad, plus meat, rice, potato, yuca, avocado, juice and an arepa. Several places to choose from.
Black Page
05-16-17, 23:04
Centro and Mayorista aren't for rookies, nose pickers, or monoglots. Mayorista is a lot safer than centro, though. Although, anyone who does not know what 'mayorista' means might have a hard time figuring out what its main purpose is.1) I guess there is a number of people, over the thousands who read your post today, who are trying to imagine how a "monoglot" looks like (must be something near a Monolophosaurus?
2) Mayorista... ?? It must be where menores are not allowed?
I'll call BS on the "half the locals didn't tip". I have been to centro strip clubs a dozen times at least, and never have I seen more than a couple locals not tipping, and they didn't tip any girl, not just the "ugly" ones. Probably cheap charlies who expect to see pussy up close for the price of a beer they nurse for 4 hours. They exist everywhere.
And I'm not advocating throwing tips around to anybody with a hand out, but when it's deserved. I would never tip a bouncer at these places, which some guys do (because he let you in or because he calls you his amigo? LOL) but a chica who gets naked on stage deserves it.
Honestly, the only guys that I hear the "act like locals. " mantra from are guys who always follow that up with "locals don't tip".Totally agree with you. Unfortunately there are guys who get a bang out of grabbing as much as possible for as little as possible. These same scumbags complain about others messing things up for them. How ironic!
El Mechanico
05-17-17, 01:02
The ATM fee would not be from Schwab. It would be rolled into the money that you withdrew and charged by the bank whose machine you used. Mine is always refunded around the 27th of each month. I have only had foreign transaction fees from making purchases with credit cards and never from using an ATM with a debit card.Excellent point about the FTFs on CC purchases and not ATM withdrawals! However with those exchange rates, if the bank who owned the ATM did take a cut, I say Let them Have it! Those rates were 200 - 400 COP better than the Casa de cambios!
El Mechanico.
YippieKayay
05-17-17, 01:09
Excellent point about the FTFs on CC purchases and not ATM withdrawals! However with those exchange rates, if the bank who owned the ATM did take a cut, I say Let them Have it! Those rates were 200 - 400 COP better than the Casa de cambios!
El Mechanico.I think you are thinking about it in the wrong way. Those cambio casas are offering shitty rates that are far below market rates. In any case, Bancolombia was not charging additional fees. Banco de Bogota was. So was Davivienda.
EDIT: The way I save the most in this mess is by always using my credit card where I can (and always picking pesos when it prompts for which currency avoiding the dreaded 3.5% fee). I then only use cash for the casino, hookers, and small stuff :)
Sargent 50
05-17-17, 04:16
That ad says she is on vacation, so that is why there is no contact info. 'On vacation' most likely means getting fucked to death in Curacao or Panam.Curacao? I keep hearing about this place.
Manizales911
05-17-17, 04:23
I think you are thinking about it in the wrong way. Those cambio casas are offering shitty rates that are far below market rates. In any case, Bancolombia was not charging additional fees. Banco de Bogota was. So was Davivienda.
EDIT: The way I save the most in this mess is by always using my credit card where I can (and always picking pesos when it prompts for which currency avoiding the dreaded 3.5% fee). I then only use cash for the casino, hookers, and small stuff :)Until your card gets cloned. At least using an ATM you can check it for the skimming equipment, if you use your card in restaurants it is only a matter of time before your card is cloned, cloning is rampant in Colombia. Use a no fee debit card from Schwab or one of the other banks at ATM's.
Had several great experiences with a beautiful Black / Hispanic sweetheart who works the 1 PM to 8 PM shift.
YippieKayay
05-17-17, 04:29
Until your card gets cloned. At least using an ATM you can check it for the skimming equipment, if you use your card in restaurants it is only a matter of time before your card is cloned, cloning is rampant in Colombia. Use a no fee debit card from Schwab or one of the other banks at ATM's.Who cares? I call my bank, they cancel the card, remove the fraudulent charges and send me a new card. All four of my credit cards have chips on them as well and cannot be used over the phone in Latin America. But more to the point, who cares? I won't be responsible for any of the fraudulent charges.
I think you are thinking about it in the wrong way. Those cambio casas are offering shitty rates that are far below market rates. In any case, Bancolombia was not charging additional fees. Banco de Bogota was. So was DaviviendaI have never been charged an extra fee for using Davivienda's ATM's. Used one last week. Banco de Bogota started adding the additional fees within the last year. I don't use them any more. Bancolombia is the primary ATM's I use, now that they are accepting the Schwab card. I've noticed Bancolombia and Davivienda give very similar exchange rates at their ATM's. Contrary to what I've seen posted in the past, the card issuing bank does not determine the exchange rate. I've received different rates from different banks' ATM's when the transactions were less than an hour apart. I've also noticed the rates stay the same throughout the day (tied to the previous day's published exchange rate). I think the rates at the ATM's are updated in the evening, around 9 pm. By watching the published exchange rate, I was able to time the withdrawals to get the best rates. For 12 days ending Monday, I averaged 2954/$1.
Just to reaffirm what YippieKayay said about the cambio casas, the last time I checked their rates, I could make a profit by withdrawing COP from an ATM and then exchanging it for dollars at the cambio's. ATM's with a card like Schwab is the way to go, IMO.
Just a heads up here guys, when in the CTG last week I brought mostly cash & exchanged at an exchange house near Torre Centaurio in Laguito & got 2700:1. In El Centro I got 2750:1. I just checked my Schwab statement & got 3153:1 on a 200,000 COP withdrawal & 2965:1 on 2 seperate 300,000 COP withdrawals.I'm curious, what bank ATM did you get 3153/$1?
PepolesBuddy
05-17-17, 16:43
What estratos are these municipalities?
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