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Indeed HT, indeed. I thought of a few after I posted. Probably should not have ended my few with ". Last but not least". Mayorista is / has expanded with the main entrance being redone almost completely. A bitter deeper in they are digging a whole for a parking garage and more space for the vendors to not be piled up on each other as they are in the building where you can find great deals on fruit and vegetables. It is tight in there but there is a system for navigating the isles. Like get out the way if someone is coming up or down the isle carrying boxes of produce. I learned quickly being a big guy but it was well worth it to get cheap but good produce. There are plenty of ATMs in the newer front part and almost all of the local banks are represented. Good food can be had at the restaurant above the market "BOOM" I think is the one. I get the names mixed up as there are three big supermarkets in the complex. The menu rotates from day to day so the choice is limited but I have not had a bad lunch there. All the markets have an area where you can get cooked food and all are pretty good. There is a WU in one of them as well in case you send yourself money from home for future trips while the exchange rate is good. (WU is in most of the larger Exitos as well and it's a pretty easy transaction just need your passport and the transaction number). There are places to get meat and seafood in the complex and there is a liquor distributor with most items but not always the absolute cheapest in the city so price around. Again, the supermarkets in the complex are good prices for mostly everything. If you really want a nice option for seafood like the bigger shrimp that are not easily found there is a seafood distributor across from the main entrance to Mayorista. It s a blue and white building on the corner. I think it is open Tuesday to Saturday but not 100% sure. I have not done a report is a long time but have made many trips. I will follow up with some info when I go on the 18th.
Yes Bangkokmikey, casas are places where the girls can be had for a set price and most are open 10-7. Nighttime is usually not for casas but for clubs or the strips but I do think a few higher end (price wise) casas are open after 7. "Reasonable prices" is relative to the buyer.
On point with the girls still doing work while their period is on. Depends on the day and how much she knows about keeping it from being messy. Had a girl want to screw with a tampon in. Told me, "Just the tip!" LOL. It's a business and the girls do have tricks for that time of month.
DP.
Sorry for my ignorance guys, but I just got here and have no idea what you mean by "casas". Are they working girl houses?
I'm looking for action tonight and would love some ideas of some reasonably priced places. It appears that Pley House is now a bit expensive from what I'm reading.Casa, brothel, *****house, house of negotiable affection. Call it what you want, it all comes down to the same thing. A place where women and beds await your money.
Probably should have started reading the forum and asking questions before you're ready to hit the street.
Go back to the listing of Colombia threads. Scroll down to the Medellin Lists thread. Read. You will find a link to a map of the casas and a pdf file listing what's on the map.
Price is 30 K room included. All the rest is besides the point. Yes, of course there are guys who pay more there and everywhere else. I've never experienced or heard about an offer for 30 K room included being turned down anywhere on that strip.That's great you have never experienced it or heard of it but that does not make it untrue. 30 K is the rate to go by and should be expected but some of the girls will ask for more and turn down that depending on many things. Just being realistic because I know that I have experienced and heard about an offer for 30 K room included being turned down in front of a few hotels and bars and the restaurants on the strip. I said YMMV so you have given an example of excellent mileage. Letting guys know what to expect and what is the normal rate allows them to decide for themselves to pick, choose or refuse.
DP.
Hi All, So I was at the Mansion for the first time but was staying at the Castillo location as it was sold out for the July 4th party. I was there from June 28 to July 6 and flew down on Copa. Have to say the flight with Copa was uneventful so that is always great and was meet by the Taxi that I booked with the Mansion. Thanks to everyone who provided info on Banking as this helped out. I used a combo of ATM / Cambio on the trip and both were easy and painless, I averaged 2150 peso to 1 Canadian at the cambio and will be checking the exchange from the ATM later on in the week. Some notes and observations from this trip I did not get to do a Casa run as well the ladies at the Mansion were great for me, I did hit up Fase Dos on Saturday night for a bit with another member here on the board (Huskerdude) and was very impressed buy the quality of the ladies as they were all smoking hot. But did not partake any as the prices would have been too high.
As for the July 4th party that was my first time there and have to say that it was crazy. There must have been close to 60 plus chicas in The Cave and they were all smoking hot. I ended up going with three chicas that night as they were all dancing and grinding and hard to say No to them LOL. As for the chicas I have to say that the selection was amazing and in 8 days there I was able to spend time with 15 different chicas and each was great. My one complaint was that I was not able to get a decent BJ, not sure if it is an age thing as they were not experienced enough or what. But in all all the chicas were excellent sessions.
Spent most of the time in M1 as this is where most of the action was. I was advised about the hill walking up to Castillo but the reality is that is one ***** of a walk up and it almost killed me the first day as I was walking up it at my normal pace and that killed me. After that it was done at a slower pace and was fine. Getting the chicas from M1 to Castillo was not a problem. At night it was cab up with most and there were a few that during the day actually wanted to walk up but I always insisted that taxi was fine and they did not want too.
Also did a few touristy things the first time toward the end of the trip and that was a nice break after going hard for the first 4-5 days. Did the usual Botero Plaza and the Museum and also did a Real Walking tour that were great. Was able to also see the local red light district behind the museum and have to say that was odd as there were some nasty looking providers but then some were really hot looking also. But there is no way I would go up those stairs with any. I feel I would come down with a kidney missing.
Want to say a big Thanks to the guys who where there during my trip as they made it fun and were cool to hang with at M1.
In the end I have realized that I may not bee going back to the Dominican Republic (BlackBeards I am a compund guy) any more after seeing the quality of the Ladies and the city in general. Or if I go it will be for only a few days at best.
I can't wait to return to MDE and time to save the cash and try and book for the July 4 party for 2018.
JohnnyWishBone
07-10-17, 00:29
Too much Chit Chat in this thread again.
It is supposed to be about the chicas and places they are in.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3873-Medellin-Chit-Chat-Thread100% agree. Trying to find useful info on this thread can be difficult. It would be idea if there was a new thread devoted to just useful info. No opinions. It would be very helpful for first time visitors like myself.
did hit up Fase Dos on Saturday night for a bit with another member here on the board (Huskerdude) and was very impressed buy the quality of the ladies as they were all smoking hot. But did not partake any as the prices would have been too high.
Was able to also see the local red light district behind the museum and have to say that was odd as there were some nasty looking providers but then some were really hot looking also. But there is no way I would go up those stairs with any. I feel I would come down with a kidney missing.
The FaseDos girls are 190 k on property, the rooms are nice-some certainly look worth it to me.
I haven't lost a kidney yet up those stairs. One of my fav girls I met in that block, will see her again next time I am in town.
Sara:
FaseDos room:
You are right. The best advice I would give is guys should stick to their guns on that strip and if cost is an issue then go for the 15 minute rate at New Life.
That's great you have never experienced it or heard of it but that does not make it untrue. 30 K is the rate to go by and should be expected but some of the girls will ask for more and turn down that depending on many things. Just being realistic because I know that I have experienced and heard about an offer for 30 K room included being turned down in front of a few hotels and bars and the restaurants on the strip. I said YMMV so you have given an example of excellent mileage. Letting guys know what to expect and what is the normal rate allows them to decide for themselves to pick, choose or refuse.
DP.
Black Page
07-10-17, 10:14
100% agree. Trying to find useful info on this thread can be difficult. It would be idea if there was a new thread devoted to just useful info. No opinions. It would be very helpful for first time visitors like myself.You must not know that there are a LIST and a RoD Threads? Purposely designed for that.
JamesPearle
07-11-17, 01:53
1st. Nice score dude. That chick looks gorgeous.
2nd. Anyone find it amazing how willing the girls are to take photos? I got photos of this chick and her friend that I banged on my last trip. I am sure that both were non-pros. I assumed they would say no, but they were just so hot I had to ask. Do they not worry about their family or children seeing their photos one day?
The FaseDos girls are 190 k on property, the rooms are nice-some certainly look worth it to me.
I haven't lost a kidney yet up those stairs. One of my fav girls I met in that block, will see her again next time I am in town.
Sara:
FaseDos room:
JamesPearle
07-11-17, 02:17
Great report dude!
Question about pricing (posting as the answers will probably benefit others).
1. At the mansion, how does payment work? Do you just pay for the stay and all the action is included or you just grab the girls when you feel like it and pay the house or the girls as you go? (Like the FKK clubs in Europe?
2. You said Face Dos was expensive. What price were they asking and what was included for the price?
Hi All, So I was at the Mansion for the first time but was staying at the Castillo location as it was sold out for the July 4th party. I was there from June 28 to July 6 and flew down on Copa. Have to say the flight with Copa was uneventful so that is always great and was meet by the Taxi that I booked with the Mansion. Thanks to everyone who provided info on Banking as this helped out. I used a combo of ATM / Cambio on the trip and both were easy and painless, I averaged 2150 peso to 1 Canadian at the cambio and will be checking the exchange from the ATM later on in the week. Some notes and observations from this trip I did not get to do a Casa run as well the ladies at the Mansion were great for me, I did hit up Fase Dos on Saturday night for a bit with another member here on the board (Huskerdude) and was very impressed buy the quality of the ladies as they were all smoking hot. But did not partake any as the prices would have been too high.
As for the July 4th party that was my first time there and have to say that it was crazy. There must have been close to 60 plus chicas in The Cave and they were all smoking hot. I ended up going with three chicas that night as they were all dancing and grinding and hard to say No to them LOL. As for the chicas I have to say that the selection was amazing and in 8 days there I was able to spend time with 15 different chicas and each was great. My one complaint was that I was not able to get a decent BJ, not sure if it is an age thing as they were not experienced enough or what. But in all all the chicas were excellent sessions..
1st. Nice score dude. That chick looks gorgeous.
2nd. Anyone find it amazing how willing the girls are to take photos? I got photos of this chick and her friend that I banged on my last trip. I am sure that both were non-pros. I assumed they would say no, but they were just so hot I had to ask. Do they not worry about their family or children seeing their photos one day?Pros do not like their photos taken. Non-pros have no problem with photos but hope they won't be posted on a p4p website.
Black Page
07-11-17, 12:19
Pros do not like their photos taken. Non-pros have no problem with photos but hope they won't be posted on a p4p website.Also most of us P4P players do not have problem with photos, but we would not like to see them posted with face unmasked on ISG...
I believe it makes sense, right??
The relevant questions are here. The rest is chit chat.
I'm hoping to get out for some fun today, but I'm not sure what time I'll be free for a few hours. I've got 2 models to deal with today. One will (probably) work 2 to 4 hours in the morning and 2 to 4 hours at night. The other will work 2 to 4 hours sometime in the afternoon. Depending on when I get a break, I'm considering 4 major options:
1. Energy. Been there, know what to expect.
2. Fase II. If I can't get out until late.
3. A Centro strip club.
4. A Centro casa.
If I get out early afternoon it's between Energy and either Aiffe or New Life. If I get out late night, between Fase II, Maracaibo, Conejitas and Barra Ejecutiva. Price isn't an issue. I'm more interested in the quality of the room and the quality of the girls. I'm not that picky and have no problem trying a new place.
In Energy and Fase II, I'm confident to find high quality in both. My time window probably will be limited, so I want to go straight in, without going to 2 or 3 spots. Between Aiffe and New Life which has the better rooms? Same question for the strip clubs?
The rest is chit chat.
Great report dude!
Question about pricing (posting as the answers will probably benefit others).
1. At the mansion, how does payment work? Do you just pay for the stay and all the action is included or you just grab the girls when you feel like it and pay the house or the girls as you go? (Like the FKK clubs in Europe?
2. You said Face Dos was expensive. What price were they asking and what was included for the price?1. As has been reported many times, both here and in the Mansion thread, pricing there is 150 k to 200 k for an hour. Some may ask for more. You pay the hotel for your room, you pay the bar for your drinks. You pay each girl you choose for her services.
2. You quoted his post where he said the prices at Fase Dos were about 190 k. That gets the girl and all the things the girl does.
1st. Nice score dude. That chick looks gorgeous.
2nd. Anyone find it amazing how willing the girls are to take photos? I got photos of this chick and her friend that I banged on my last trip. I am sure that both were non-pros. I assumed they would say no, but they were just so hot I had to ask. Do they not worry about their family or children seeing their photos one day?2nd. How and where did you find these girls you are sure were non-pros and did you pay them? If you paid them they aren't non-pros. If you banged a girl and her friend, they almost definitely aren't non-pros, unless they were both riding unicorns when you found them.
Great report dude!
Question about pricing (posting as the answers will probably benefit others).
1. At the mansion, how does payment work? Do you just pay for the stay and all the action is included or you just grab the girls when you feel like it and pay the house or the girls as you go? (Like the FKK clubs in Europe?
2. You said Face Dos was expensive. What price were they asking and what was included for the price?You really need to take some time and read the last 30-40 pages of this thread. There is plenty of information here.
As has been repeated many times, the Mansion is not a brothel per se. What you pay the chica is between you and her. The Mansion does not want to get involved in that as it would open them up to charges of proxenetismo which is illegal in Colombia.
That said, most guys pay 150 k to 200 k pesos for short-time (an hour or two). I generally just tell the girls I'm giving them 150 k, and I've rarely had a problem. Generally if you're a sap, they are going to take advantage of you.
Men, when going with a mansion girl, you should always enjoy the bar seen first. Then line up your beauty, have a few drinks, don't be a sap but don't ruin the experience with to much negotiating. Some women offer me a deal for a 100 k. But because they were nice I tell them 150 or I won't go. Hahaha. Enjoy my friends.
Men, when going with a mansion girl, you should always enjoy the bar seen first. Then line up your beauty, have a few drinks, don't be a sap but don't ruin the experience with to much negotiating. Some women offer me a deal for a 100 k. But because they were nice I tell them 150 or I won't go. Hahaha. Enjoy my friends.What would be great is if she were to reply 100 K or no deal.
Black Page
07-12-17, 10:25
What would be great is if she were to reply 100 K or no deal.You're a genius. I propose your post for Best of the Week.
What would be great is if she were to reply 100 K or no deal. I won't accept less than 150 k for my services!
Took a trip late last night to check out the Centro Clubs. Probably close to midnight when we arrived at Conejitas. Maybe a dozen locals all sitting together, plus 3 other tables of locals. We were the only gringos in the place. Sat through 2 different girls on the stage. If you're into enormous ass and thighs, you would have been happy. I'm not. Maybe a dozen girls in the place. 2 looked good, 3 more looked doable, none of them showed any enthusiasm. We left after 15 minutes.
Stopped in at Grill Nueva Avenida. 5 or 6 girls. 1 looked very good. Too bad I didn't see her sooner. 3 others looked good enough. The one my buddy grabbed was the most affectionate. I grabbed another who wanted to bring over her prima. I bought a few rounds of cervezitas for the girls, at 5 k each one. Cokes were 5 k as well. Picked the cousin over my original choice, but I think neither was a great choice. She started immediately with the jackhammer and there wasn't much improvement from there. Got the job done. 50 k for the service. No actual dancing happening.
Service was nothing to write home about, but still had a good time.
Took a trip late last night to check out the Centro Clubs. Probably close to midnight when we arrived at Conejitas. Maybe a dozen locals all sitting together, plus 3 other tables of locals. We were the only gringos in the place. Sat through 2 different girls on the stage. If you're into enormous ass and thighs, you would have been happy. I'm not. Maybe a dozen girls in the place. 2 looked good, 3 more looked doable, none of them showed any enthusiasm. We left after 15 minutes.
Stopped in at Grill Nueva Avenida. 5 or 6 girls. 1 looked very good. Too bad I didn't see her sooner. 3 others looked good enough. The one my buddy grabbed was the most affectionate. I grabbed another who wanted to bring over her prima. I bought a few rounds of cervezitas for the girls, at 5 k each one. Cokes were 5 k as well. Picked the cousin over my original choice, but I think neither was a great choice. She started immediately with the jackhammer and there wasn't much improvement from there. Got the job done. 50 k for the service. No actual dancing happening.
Service was nothing to write home about, but still had a good time.I've had better luck earlier in Conejitas 6-9 ish. I think the A-Team comes in early and leaves early. But you'll see a lot more girls there Fri / Sat. I've only been in GrillNueavaAve twice, a little small and not enough girls, left rather soon. I've had much better luck in Conejitas and Barre Ejectiva.
"There are plenty of ATMs in the newer front part and almost all of the local banks are represented. "
So, it's not a good idea to bring cash from the US hoping to make a simple exchange at a kiosk someplace? They don't exist here like in some places? Just work with the ATM's? Sometimes that can be a pain, what with international transaction charges, commissions, scratch-my-ass add-on fees and on and on; and adds up when you're having to visit these place everyday or two. Is there a certain ATM or Logo to look for that partners up with say Bank of America and is maybe a better deal than some of the others, or are they all about the same?
"There are plenty of ATMs in the newer front part and almost all of the local banks are represented. "
So, it's not a good idea to bring cash from the US hoping to make a simple exchange at a kiosk someplace? They don't exist here like in some places? Just work with the ATM's? Sometimes that can be a pain, what with international transaction charges, commissions, scratch-my-ass add-on fees and on and on; and adds up when you're having to visit these place everyday or two. Is there a certain ATM or Logo to look for that partners up with say Bank of America and is maybe a better deal than some of the others, or are they all about the same?The exchange places tend to be a bad deal.
I order some peso's from Bank of America delivered before I go and use Banco Colombia ATM's while down there. They do seem to have a 600,000 p limit.
Black Page
07-15-17, 20:04
So, it's not a good idea to bring cash from the US hoping to make a simple exchange at a kiosk someplace? They don't exist here like in some places? Just work with the ATM's? Sometimes that can be a pain, what with international transaction charges, commissions, scratch-my-ass add-on fees and on and on; You seem to have not a long travel experience and not in many countries out of US. The situation is exactly the opposite as you depict. Wherever you go in the world, ATMs will be the simplest and cheapest way to get local currency, provided that you use a debit card (not the credit function). Exchange fees for Maestro are the same in all the world and are usually much lower than those provided by kiosks. The local fee can vary from zero to 3 dollars (it's up to you to check if you want to save that additional dollars). The fixed fee for withdrawing from an ATM which is not from your bank can vary from 0 to 3 dollars (check with your bank rules). Withdraw the maximum amount each time, and you will be saving money (and time) compared to what you'd get from a kiosk.
This topic come back again and again.
"There are plenty of ATMs in the newer front part and almost all of the local banks are represented. "
So, it's not a good idea to bring cash from the US hoping to make a simple exchange at a kiosk someplace? They don't exist here like in some places? Just work with the ATM's? Sometimes that can be a pain, what with international transaction charges, commissions, scratch-my-ass add-on fees and on and on; and adds up when you're having to visit these place everyday or two. Is there a certain ATM or Logo to look for that partners up with say Bank of America and is maybe a better deal than some of the others, or are they all about the same?You can bring a large amount of cash from home. Most malls have at least one place to exchange for pesos, or you can go to Western Union. Each one will charge you a fee with a lower than current exchange rate. How much lower varies from place to place.
The downside is that you're carrying a large amount of cash and keeping a large amount of cash in your room. Room safes can he bypassed.
ATMs are everywhere. Wherever you stay there will be several ATMs within walking distance. Depending on your bank there may be a variety of charges like currency conversion fee and foreign ATM fees. Some bank ATMs also charge a service fee. Ask your bank about their fees.
My bank allows withdrawals of up to $800 per day. I use Davivienda ATMs and make up to 3 withdrawals of 720,000 pesos, their max per transaction. That's 2,160,000 pesos. For entertainment and food I rarely spend over 200,000 per day. Even if you're spending 500,000 per day, that's 1 trip to the ATM every 4 days.
I haven't checked every bank, but I know Servibanca has a 12,000 cop transaction fee.
I agree 100% with everything Black Page said. There is no logical reason for how often this subject comes up but it continues to come up. Maybe it will be helpful if guys think of the ATM fees as insurance premiums against getting jacked for or losing a big pile of cash. Think about it, given the choice of paying $20 to $30 in fees over several weeks or risking the loss of all the money you plan to spend during that time, why risk ruining your trip to save the fees and the mental energy of deciding which ATM to use? I just don't understand the confusion.
You seem to have not a long travel experience and not in many countries out of US. The situation is exactly the opposite as you depict. Wherever you go in the world, ATMs will be the simplest and cheapest way to get local currency, provided that you use a debit card (not the credit function). Exchange fees for Maestro are the same in all the world and are usually much lower than those provided by kiosks. The local fee can vary from zero to 3 dollars (it's up to you to check if you want to save that additional dollars). The fixed fee for withdrawing from an ATM which is not from your bank can vary from 0 to 3 dollars (check with your bank rules). Withdraw the maximum amount each time, and you will be saving money (and time) compared to what you'd get from a kiosk.
This topic come back again and again.
Mr Enternational
07-16-17, 00:19
You seem to have not a long travel experience and not in many countries out of US. The situation is exactly the opposite as you depict. Wherever you go in the world, ATMs will be the simplest and cheapest way to get local currency, provided that you use a debit card (not the credit function).Not correct. In Thailand and Philippines for two, it is better to exchange money than to use the ATM. Money exchange places are 3 on every corner. The Thai bank charges you $6 on their end alone, while most money exchange places give you about the same as the interbank exchange. In Philippines sometimes using the exchange will give you even more than the interbank exchange. In Peru as well it is better to use the money changers on the street.
Not correct. In Thailand and Philippines for two, it is better to exchange money than to use the ATM. Money exchange places are 3 on every corner. The Thai bank charges you $6 on their end alone, while most money exchange places give you about the same as the interbank exchange. In Philippines sometimes using the exchange will give you even more than the interbank exchange. In Peru as well it is better to use the money changers on the street.I always have both ATM cards and cash whenever I travel as sometimes the exchange rate for US dollars can be higher than the bank rate but I have found that to be true only in Thailand which I don't understand why but it is. As far as Colombia don't even think of exchanging dollars at a a casa de cambio you will easily get almost a 10 percent lower rate than using an ATM machine. Also Citibank offers a lower rate than Bancolombia as I have experienced so I avoid them. As far as money changers on the street well best to avoid them as invariably one of them will screw you over.
Or make it simple and get a Schwab Bank High Yield Investor Checking account. You never have to go into a Schwab branch. You open it online and transfer funds electronically from another bank. There are no transfer fes and the best part is that you can withdraw money from an ATM anywhere in the world for free. No ATM fees at all. Yes, you will be charged ATM fees at the time of withdrawal. But on the first of each month, your account statement comes out and they refund all ATM fees. On February 1, I received a rebate of $22 after my January trip.
THIS ACCOUNT IS A NO-BRAINER!
Link to open an account: http://content.schwab.com/web/retail/public/get-started/checking/.
For some reason, it doeasn't work at BancoColombia in Medellin for me. That's not a big deal because BancoColombia has the longest lines and the lowest daily withdrawal limit (600,000 which is only $200). I have used Citibank, Banco de Bogota, and Davidenda (sp) with no issues.
FYI- Another myth guys repeat is that some ATM's give better rates. Not true. Every ATM gives the exact same rate at any given times (not counting fees they tack on). This is because the bank that gives you the money does not calculate the exchange rate. YOUR bank does that. The foreign bank gives you pesos and YOUR bank decides how much that is worth in dollars.
Schwab is very popular on the monger boards. It works as described. There are many similar deals at other banks. No ATM fees worldwide. Some banks require a minimum balance in the $500 to $1000 range. I have a credit union account with no minimum balance requirement and no ATM fees worldwide. I would never consider traveling with a pile of cash but guys should do whatever feels comfortable.
Or make it simple and get a Schwab Bank High Yield Investor Checking account. You never have to go into a Schwab branch. You open it online and transfer funds electronically from another bank. There are no transfer fes and the best part is that you can withdraw money from an ATM anywhere in the world for free. No ATM fees at all. Yes, you will be charged ATM fees at the time of withdrawal. But on the first of each month, your account statement comes out and they refund all ATM fees. On February 1, I received a rebate of $22 after my January trip.
THIS ACCOUNT IS A NO-BRAINER!
Link to open an account: http://content.schwab.com/web/retail/public/get-started/checking/.
For some reason, it doeasn't work at BancoColombia in Medellin for me. That's not a big deal because BancoColombia has the longest lines and the lowest daily withdrawal limit (600,000 which is only $200). I have used Citibank, Banco de Bogota, and Davidenda (sp) with no issues.
FYI- Another myth guys repeat is that some ATM's give better rates. Not true. Every ATM gives the exact same rate at any given times (not counting fees they tack on). This is because the bank that gives you the money does not calculate the exchange rate. YOUR bank does that. The foreign bank gives you pesos and YOUR bank decides how much that is worth in dollars.
FYI- Another myth guys repeat is that some ATM's give better rates. Not true. Every ATM gives the exact same rate at any given times (not counting fees they tack on). This is because the bank that gives you the money does not calculate the exchange rate. YOUR bank does that. The foreign bank gives you pesos and YOUR bank decides how much that is worth in dollars.That is not correct. I just returned from Medellin earlier this week. I withdrew money from Bancolombia, Davivienda, and BBVA. The rate at the ATM stays the same throughout the day and is tied to the previous day's exchange rate. I know this because I withdrew more than once on some days. The rates did not change Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. On the same day, I withdrew from BBVA and from Bancolombia. BBVA gave a better rate. Davivienda gave a rate between BBVA and Bancolombia. None of those three banks charge a fee. I withdrew from Davivienda between withdrawals at Bancolombia. Since it was a weekend, the rates at Bancolombia were the same, and the rate at Davivienda was a little higher. Among the three banks, the difference was less than three pesos on the dollar. I used the Schwab card for all withdrawals.
3 pesos? That's 1/10th of of a penny. That qualifies under "exactly the same rate".
3 pesos? That's 1/10th of of a penny. That qualifies under "exactly the same rate".On the same day I withdrew from Servibanca, Davivienda and Citibank. Davivienda rate was the best, Citibank was the worst. Servibanca was in the middle but also had a 12 k service fee. The rate at Citibank was over 100 pesos less per dollar.
The rate at Citibank was over 100 pesos less per dollar.Sorry but I don't believe you.
Sorry but I don't believe you.I'll pass that along to my bank and I'm sure they'll adjust the charges.
However, my numbers were wrong. I was looking at 2 different dates and I didn't have a Servibanca withdrawal on the day I used a Citibank ATM. On that day I used the Davivienda ATM at Jumbo Las Vegas and the Citibank ATM at CC Oviedo.
Daviv - 720,000 cop for $258.64 rate 2783.79 cop / usd.
Citi - 600,000 cop for $219.68 rate 2731.24 cop / USD.
Difference 52 cop / USD or 26,000 cop per $500 USD.
Not enough of a difference to lose sleep over, but the rate is not the same at every ATM. The larger factor is the current rate. I've had a range of $25 difference between identical withdrawals, depending on that days rate.
TravelPlanet17
07-16-17, 10:02
First off on that ATM discussion. Get the Schwab account they refund transaction fees all over the world. It does take 4 business days to transfer funds so plan accordingly. Especially when ATM's cap you at 600 k and you need to make multiple transactions a week those fee rebates are nice. It adds up.
Gusto - 4 for 4 pulling girls out of there. Cover is 15 K. The bouncer never hands me change he just puts it on his stand and I have to ask to take it which is douche move on both parts but whatever that's the game. Strategy is go in after 12, buy some girls you like an overpriced drink (she might have 3 in front of her and on her phone, but if she's not with a guy that means those were rejects and she will talk to you). Check your bill, I always call the liquors and the bartenders tend to put the most expensive one on the bill even if they pour in front of you. They fix it immediately. Again feels like a douche to correct them and douche for them to pull that shit. Then make small talk with the girl (in Spanish) and she will quote you a price pretty quick. The girls are not 100% for sale. I've seen them reject my wingmen before even when price wasn't an issue because she didn't like him.
Next point. The girls are often in packs. At minimum 2. If they reject your wingman the other girl is probably open to 3 way just need to give her some attention. 3/4 of the times I've pulled girls out of there its been me with 2 girls at their suggestion (1/4 was with my wingman, we took the 2 home and paired up there). The 3 way is not like the Pornhub movies. They switch condoms each blowjob and intercourse one set switched like every 4 minutes trying to run me out of condoms, but I was well stocked. The other girl moans and sits next to her friend while you fuck her. Switching condoms every few minutes can be a boner killer cause you wonder why she won't share a condom with her friend. Then hearing 2 girls moan "Papa leche" together is one of the most comical situations I've ever been. The girls don't like when you laugh at them while fucking. Three sets started at 500 k each and 2 sets settled on 300 k each, 1 set on 250 k each. Overall I would steer clear of 3-ways. The girls are in a rush and tag teaming you. One set high fived once I came then got dressed and left ASAP. Every time it was one hotter girl with her less hot friend that I ended up fucking because it was a 3 way opportunity. One girl whatsapp'd me the next day and apologized for making me fuck her friend. Literally laughed out loud for like 2 minutes when I got that message. A girl apologizing for "forcing" me into a 3 way. I love Medellin! Overall I'm going to avoid the 3 way offer its not gunna be what I think it will be and really is just a double the price but not double the pleasure. No regrets, but not gunna fall for that trap again.
Maybe you will have a different experience. Cheers!
I've been coming to Medellin and Cartagena for the past five years or so and this will be my first post here.
Day Action:
New Life. I usually go after 1 pm but before 4-5 pm so I can miss the business locals going there on their lunch break. However, both times I went at 1 pm and 3 pm during the week was crowded with dudes. Also, since Dec 2016 there is a 2 k Pesos fee! I guess I can't blame them with all the people coming in and not taking a girl. I started to ask questions and they said I didn't have to pay that day, just do it next time. This place is usually a hit or miss for me, but I'm really picky and like spinners. So I will try and give unbiased details of the girls. The first day I went there were only about 5-6 available with the others occupied. Usually there is a line up of 10-20 girls of all sizes and looks. I didn't see any spinners this time around so if you like curves there here you go. There were more than a few tall girls also if you like that. Tall meaning 5'10" and above. I didn't see anything I liked the two times I went so I just stopped trying.
Aiffe. Usually, when I find nothing at New Life I head over one street and go here. There's usually about 5-8 girls, also hit and miss. It was a miss for me on spinners.
Energy: This place is over by the stadium and has been on streaks of good and bad. Right now they seem to have about 20 girls there. They seem younger than New Life and there were more with cuter faces IMO. There were still no spinners but I picked a woman that was fit with little curves. She was 29, spoke some English, and was really nice. Sorry, forgot her name. IMO I think this was the best out of the 3 places I visited so far.
I usually go to only 3 strip clubs. These are in order of cheap to the most expensive:
San Diego. The smallest of the 3, but there can be some gems. Also, depends on your taste. You can find spinners here. Most of course are curvy, but fit. It is Medellin after all. The problem with this place is that dances are few and far in between. So it gets boring if your just looking around and not talking with a girl.
Fase II. This has been hit and miss for me, but right now it's good overall. Maybe the best of the 3 IMO as far as quality, amount of girls, and price for what you get. The space is a nice size with lots of room and you can see every part of the room easily without straining your eyes. There were spinners there, curvy girls, and curvy fit girls. I got a number from one girl and when I whatsapp'd here she wanted 350 k pesos! What a joke. It's only like 180-200 k at the club with a room. Let's calculate. She only gets up to 200 k pesos for a client at the club minus house fees and it's in those hot rank rooms. You would think she would take 150-200 k, no subtraction of club fees, to come to my very clean apartment with a pool and drinks. Dumb girl and I blew her off. There are way to many here so don't be afraid to say no or ignore them. You can be nice about it and they will be nice too, but say no thanks.
La Isla. This is the most expensive and the largest club. Fase II and this one usually has a stream of girls going up to dance. I usually pay 2 k pesos when the girls come around, because getting 1 k pesos is a chore and a half and you need a lot of them. No, you cannot get 1 k pesos at the cash register at the club. Besides, 2 k pesos is like only 66 cents right now. You can have fun when you give the girls the tip. I see other guys touch them, dance with them, smack their ass a little. This place is also the nicest out of all the strip clubs in Medellin with the largest dance floor for the girls. I always go to La Isla, among other places, every time I'm in Medellin and I met a cool server named Alex there. He speaks fluent English so it makes things a lot smoother. My Spanish is way better than before, but it's nice to have him around. PM me if you want his number.
La Isla Horror Story. On this particular night I was chilling on a couch searching for girls that I wanted to meet and started to chat with this one hot girl. Here the girls cost about 200-300 k for 40 minutes from my last recollection. This girl, Yaliz (Pronounced Jaliz, remember this name if you go there), had long black hair, implants, and a bubble butt. She knew a few words in English and seemed nice. I got her a couple of drinks and she wanted 300 k pesos. She said it was for an hour and included the VIP room. I should have read the signs. I'm such and idiot. I tried to get her number to meet up with her later in the week, but she said her cell phone was stolen. Sign post number 2. This is a hot girl in Medellin that lives off of cell phones. Some girls don't want to give their numbers, but it's rare and they usually have two phones anyway. If they don't want to give you there number then they will tell you nicely, there's no reason to lie. I eventually said fuck it and went to pay. I spoke with Alex and he tells me it's still 40 minutes, but the price does include the room. Whatever, it's only a $100 US. We walk up to the room and it's a normal room. I ask Yaliz what's up and she tells me sorry the VIP room is occupied. Huh, okay. Oh, we had gone back and forth on me having sex with her at La Isla and my place. One of the final things she said was that she would kiss me. I mention this because once we were at the room she didn't kiss me and was moving her face away. Ugh. We both had drinks and she kept taking sips of her drink and throughout the entire time she not only finished her drink, but then got two glasses of water. She then had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) 3 different times. Now this was all in a span of about 10-15 minutes. It was such a buzz kill that I couldn't even get hard. She kept facing away from me and eventually said times up. She touched her drink glass more than me. I was like it's not even close to 40 minutes, but she kept on getting dressed. I've had one bad experience like this when I was first mongering, but this time I was like fuck this. I got dressed and left. I told the cleaning ladies there was a problem and then went to find Alex. I told him everything and he got the manager. Yaliz eventually came over and tried to talk to me but I just ignored her. After about 15 minutes the manager refunded my money minus the room charge, 60 k. Then I spoke with Alex a bit more and took off. I was clam but stern when I made my complaint and I'm sure that helped in them believing me. In the end, they actually did something about it. So don't be afraid to speak up. I didn't care about the money, I just hate being lied too.
When I first was visiting Medellin I had also tried the Strip Clubs in the Center. I eventually, decided to stick with the 3 above. However, now I wanted to try them again and saw some updates from Wolf662.
Conejitas. It's over by the State Museum on a corner and you go downstairs. No cover. It was definitely crowded with all locals, but it was cheap. I'm Asian so sometimes I can blend in, but I'm also muscular so people stare at me for my size. I'm use to it and didn't feel scared or worried for my safety. I don't have any combat training, I'm just a normal dude and it was fine. Didn't see any spinners, all curvy girls. About 10-15 and I stayed only 20 minutes. Super dark down there. There were long breaks in between dancing girls.
Barre Ejecutiva. I decided to just walk over to this place from Conejitas since it was a couple of blocks. However, if you are not use to seeing poor people on dirty roads then you may get a little scared. It was fine, just walk like you know where you are going. This place was brighter and had lots of girls of all sizes and quality. Girls were dancing in a steady stream.
Maracaibo. I went to this place after Barre Ejecutiva. I was here many years ago and it's the same. It's smaller than the two places above and was empty with customers. There were about 8 girls there. I was talking to one girl and she said things get full at midnight. This seems to be the norm for all strip clubs I've been to in Medellin. The lighting was in the middle of these 3 clubs. There were long breaks in between dancing girls.
Daytime action is always hard to find and / or coordinate. That's why I try to get numbers at the strip clubs and see them during the day also. I hope this little piece of info helps others. Remember, don't be afraid to speak your mind or complain. You don't need to be mean about it or yell to get results. Just explain things in a normal way and you should get the best possible results.
Black Page
07-16-17, 13:52
Not correct. In Thailand and Philippines for two, it is better to exchange money than to use the ATM. Money exchange places are 3 on every corner. The Thai bank charges you $6 on their end alone, while most money exchange places give you about the same as the interbank exchange. In Philippines sometimes using the exchange will give you even more than the interbank exchange. In Peru as well it is better to use the money changers on the street.Yes, I was thinking to add an annex to my post, even before reading yours.
As you say, it is TRUE that in SOME countries, yet not many (I don't know in TH and PH, but I am familiar with Indonesia), the kiosks (not the banks, not the Western Union, not Forex, etc.) MAY offer a better deal than ATMs. The reasons may be many, but I suspect that it must have something to do with the usefulness of having foreign cash from unrecorded sources to the benefit of local traders and business who don't want to pay taxes etc. There is no other plausible explanation, if someone offers you to buy USD at a better rate than the one posted on XE.COM! It's agains the current market.
Is it common in the world? I would not say that, since it all my travel experience I found this situation only in Batam, Indonesia (and you add the cases of TH and PH).
How can we make the comparison of exchange fees?
Maestro applies something like 1. 25% fee over the interbank exchange rates of the day (those we read on XE, for example). Over that interchange fee, we must add some fixed fees that there MAY be or MAY BE NOT (from the local ATM provider and from our bank).
+1. 25% plus some extra dollar fixed fee is a verey good deal. If you add that you don't have to travel with 1 k or 2 k USD cash in your wallet and store it in your room, you should have no doubt to prefer an ATM to get local cash.
About exchange fees at local kiosks, the situation can vary a lot. In Batam after negotiation and walking around I was able to change USD for IDR with nearly the same XE rate or even better, but that is an exception (you added the TH and PH kiosks). In Colombia, the fork (difference) betwen buy and sell at exchange offices, which I found when I looked for it, was always much higher than that. If you try to change at an international airport in Europe or USA, the difference between buy and sell can be even on the order of 20% or 30%! (a legalized robbery).
First time to Colombia, though I have traveled many times to Thailand, the Philippines, China, and DR where I've always used the exchange kiosks. Have also been around Europe and Costa Rica, but as I said this is a new place for me and one constant in life is change; so it's always smart to check on current methods and procedures ahead of time. Also, ATM's can sometimes be a potential risk depending on the location, time of day, etc. , as thieves know any gringos will be leaving these places with a pocketful of cash. But thanks for all the pointers. Not exactly sure the best way to establish a particular banks maximum daily withdrawal limit as well as the maximum limit per transaction, seems like BS right there that you may not be able to make the maximum daily withdrawal in one transaction. But I will start with Davivienda and see how that goes. Also, I think a good idea to order some pesos from BOA prior to the trip, just to have something in your pocket for the taxi, etc. Anyway, thanks again for the advice. Federer's playing– have to run.
Thanks for all the interesting ATM info, just incredible!
Maybe we can all post our favorite ATM stories as well!
This is great! 𗀄
Hi guys,
I'm new here, my first post on ISG is a recent trip report to panama city and can be found in the Panama thread.
Unfortunately this time I have a question, is the best western in Poblado guest / Chica friendly?
I will post a report after my trip.
Thanks in advance.
MedellinGringo
07-16-17, 16:32
I'll pass that along to my bank and I'm sure they'll adjust the charges.
However, my numbers were wrong. I was looking at 2 different dates and I didn't have a Servibanca withdrawal on the day I used a Citibank ATM. On that day I used the Davivienda ATM at Jumbo Las Vegas and the Citibank ATM at CC Oviedo.
Daviv - 720,000 cop for $258.64 rate 2783.79 cop / usd.
Citi - 600,000 cop for $219.68 rate 2731.24 cop / USD.
Difference 52 cop / USD or 26,000 cop per $500 USD.
Not enough of a difference to lose sleep over, but the rate is not the same at every ATM. The larger factor is the current rate. I've had a range of $25 difference between identical withdrawals, depending on that days rate.Citi has an ATM fee that is rolled right into the transaction.
I don't know how you could have missed it since it shows you the amount usually 15 to 18 mill pesos and asks you if you still want to make the withdrawal before you can get your money.
Citi bank is great for guys that have a fidelity or Charles Schwab account because you can get the fee back.
For every Citi bank withdrawal I make in Colombia I get about $5. 25 cents back at the end of the month.
Citi has an ATM fee that is rolled right into the transaction.
I don't know how you could have missed it since it shows you the amount usually 15 to 18 mill pesos and asks you if you still want to make the withdrawal before you can get your money.
Citi bank is great for guys that have a fidelity or Charles Schwab account because you can get the fee back.
For every Citi bank withdrawal I make in Colombia I get about $5. 25 cents back at the end of the month.I probably did see it at the time, I just forgot about it in the 6 weeks or so since I used it. Recalculating, I see that with their 12 k ATM fee, Servibanca still gives a rate very close to Davivienda. They also allow 780 k withdrawals.
Thanks for all the interesting ATM info, just incredible!
Maybe we can all post our favorite ATM stories as well!
This is great! 𗀄Yeah; me too. ATM reporting is the main reason I look at this thread vs. Going to the Medellin Chit Chat one. Awesome!
StripperMan
07-16-17, 18:19
I'll pass that along to my bank and I'm sure they'll adjust the charges.
However, my numbers were wrong. I was looking at 2 different dates and I didn't have a Servibanca withdrawal on the day I used a Citibank ATM. On that day I used the Davivienda ATM at Jumbo Las Vegas and the Citibank ATM at CC Oviedo.
Daviv - 720,000 cop for $258.64 rate 2783.79 cop / usd.
Citi - 600,000 cop for $219.68 rate 2731.24 cop / USD.
Difference 52 cop / USD or 26,000 cop per $500 USD.
Not enough of a difference to lose sleep over, but the rate is not the same at every ATM. The larger factor is the current rate. I've had a range of $25 difference between identical withdrawals, depending on that days rate.Wow, a net rate in the 2700's! The dollar is truly weak in Colombia whether you use ATM's or not.
I have to agree, unless you deposited money and the ATM gave you a BJ or HJ for being a loyal bank customer this info belongs in the General Forum.
Or at least tell us about hot girls waiting right by the machines or that you met shortly after.
Thanks for all the interesting ATM info, just incredible!
Maybe we can all post our favorite ATM stories as well!
This is great! 𗀄
Maybe we can all post our favorite ATM stories as well!Here goes mine.
Last year, I was staying at La 70 in Laureles. I went to banco de Bogota branch on la 70 and one block from Exito on calle 43. My ATM card would not give me any cash and I had gotten money there the day before. I kept getting some error code that Schwab told me was internal to Banco de Bogota. So I went into the branch and sat down to wait for the rep. Only 1 rep available and a couple was talking to her. And talking. And talking.
Finally, this hot and young (late 20's, I'm 40 at the time) and very curvy (read: thick--totally my type) rep doing something at one of the other desks sees me sitting there and asks if she can help. I explain my predicament with the ATM card. I'm fluent in Spanish BTW. She comes around the desk and asks me to accompany her to the outside ATM so she can see. As luck would have it, it friggin worked on the first try. I apologized and she kept smiling and being cute. I never do this but I asked her out while we were inside the ATM, I said a drink or dinner. Even if she declines it would be private and I could just get out of there quick to spare myself the embarrasment. And she ACCEPTED. Whoa.
Summary: 3 days and 2 dates later, she was waking up in my bed at the hotel. Total cost 2 dinners and some drinks. The end.
The Tall Man
07-17-17, 05:29
Here goes mine.
Last year, I was staying at La 70 in Laureles. I went to banco de Bogota branch on la 70 and one block from Exito on calle 43. My ATM card would not give me any cash and I had gotten money there the day before. I kept getting some error code that Schwab told me was internal to Banco de Bogota. So I went into the branch and sat down to wait for the rep. Only 1 rep available and a couple was talking to her. And talking. And talking.
Finally, this hot and young (late 20's, I'm 40 at the time) and very curvy (read: thick--totally my type) rep doing something at one of the other desks sees me sitting there and asks if she can help. I explain my predicament with the ATM card. I'm fluent in Spanish BTW. She comes around the desk and asks me to accompany her to the outside ATM so she can see. As luck would have it, it friggin worked on the first try. I apologized and she kept smiling and being cute. I never do this but I asked her out while we were inside the ATM, I said a drink or dinner. Even if she declines it would be private and I could just get out of there quick to spare myself the embarrasment. And she ACCEPTED. Whoa.
Summary: 3 days and 2 dates later, she was waking up in my bed at the hotel. Total cost 2 dinners and some drinks. The end.You got my vote for the best ATM story. It shows you that you should never try to force something to happen, rather just allow it to happen in its time and on its schedule.
Good reminder for us all!
TTM.
Black Page
07-17-17, 10:09
You got my vote for the best ATM story. I Agree!
What's more, we can keep on talking about our favourite topic (ATM, of course), while not being scolded because here nobody should chit-chat or talk about anything unrelated to pussy!
Here goes mine.
Last year, I was staying at La 70 in Laureles. I went to banco de Bogota branch on la 70 and one block from Exito on calle 43. My ATM card would not give me any cash and I had gotten money there the day before. I kept getting some error code that Schwab told me was internal to Banco de Bogota. So I went into the branch and sat down to wait for the rep. Only 1 rep available and a couple was talking to her. And talking. And talking.
Finally, this hot and young (late 20's, I'm 40 at the time) and very curvy (read: thick--totally my type) rep doing something at one of the other desks sees me sitting there and asks if she can help. I explain my predicament with the ATM card. I'm fluent in Spanish BTW. She comes around the desk and asks me to accompany her to the outside ATM so she can see. As luck would have it, it friggin worked on the first try. I apologized and she kept smiling and being cute. I never do this but I asked her out while we were inside the ATM, I said a drink or dinner. Even if she declines it would be private and I could just get out of there quick to spare myself the embarrasment. And she ACCEPTED. Whoa.
Summary: 3 days and 2 dates later, she was waking up in my bed at the hotel. Total cost 2 dinners and some drinks. The end.Nice dude!
Finally an ATM pussy report! LOL.
Yes!! 👍🏼👍🏼
I Agree!
What's more, we can keep on talking about our favourite topic (ATM, of course), while not being scolded because here nobody should chit-chat or talk about anything unrelated to pussy!Men, I love a good ATM as much as the next guy, I already have a finance degree. A NICE juicy pay to play report would be great. I'll be going to the best city one earth in August, stay tuned for some good reports. Until then men, enjoy.
What's up fellas.
I'm planning our first trip to Medellin in September with two of my friends who have been to DR with me the past four years.
We always rented a car in DR, is it safe and sensible to rent a car in Medellin?
I like to consider myself somewhat sensible, so I know better than to go driving about late at night, or into neighborhoods that are unknown or look shady.
Would try to link up with one of the guides on these threads too.
Does anyone have a good, current number for Geraldine? The number I have doesn't seem to be working. Please feel free to PM.
Thanks,
Rodeo.
There's a lot more guys with more experience than me that can help but my 2 cents. The 3 of you just share a cab to and from airport, it's cheap. Are you planning on traveling outside of Medellin? In my visits I have never once thought, I wish I had a car. Cabs throughout the city will run you about 3 bucks total and traffic in Medellin is awful! It's not worth the headache in my opinion.
What's up fellas.
I'm planning our first trip to Medellin in September with two of my friends who have been to DR with me the past four years.
We always rented a car in DR, is it safe and sensible to rent a car in Medellin?
I like to consider myself somewhat sensible, so I know better than to go driving about late at night, or into neighborhoods that are unknown or look shady.
Would try to link up with one of the guides on these threads too.
What's up fellas.
I'm planning our first trip to Medellin in September with two of my friends who have been to DR with me the past four years.
We always rented a car in DR, is it safe and sensible to rent a car in Medellin?
I like to consider myself somewhat sensible, so I know better than to go driving about late at night, or into neighborhoods that are unknown or look shady.
Would try to link up with one of the guides on these threads too.For the cost of a car, plus insurance you can hire a driver who knows his way around.
Traffic in Medellin is bad and drivers are aggressive. Motorcycles, cars and buses will squeeze by with inches to spare. The streets are a pain. You can rarely turn left. You have to find the right street with a you-turn, or where you can make a series of turns to get headed in the right direction. Then there's the problems with parking.
No matter where you stay you are probably only a short walk away from a bus stop (2000 cop) or metro station (2300 cop). If you prefer, a taxi will cost between 5000 and 15000 cop to just about anywhere you want to go. Uber is usually about the same price.
To put that in perspective, you can get almost anywhere for $5 or less. If you plan on hitting the Centro Clubs and casas, you'll be taking a taxi anyway. My friends here with cars spend more time in Uber or a taxi than in their own cars.
BoredInN and JjBee62 Thank you.
Settles it, no car. LOL, That's funny that your friends spend more time in Uber and Taxi's than their own cars.
But yeah, that makes my life easier too, because I'm usually the driver. Now I can actually just drink and enjoy!
Much appreciated again fellas, I'll probably have some more questions later, but I just expect to be posting a great trip report come September.
For the cost of a car, plus insurance you can hire a driver who knows his way around.
Traffic in Medellin is bad and drivers are aggressive. Motorcycles, cars and buses will squeeze by with inches to spare. The streets are a pain. You can rarely turn left. You have to find the right street with a you-turn, or where you can make a series of turns to get headed in the right direction. Then there's the problems with parking.
No matter where you stay you are probably only a short walk away from a bus stop (2000 cop) or metro station (2300 cop). If you prefer, a taxi will cost between 5000 and 15000 cop to just about anywhere you want to go. Uber is usually about the same price.
To put that in perspective, you can get almost anywhere for $5 or less. If you plan on hitting the Centro Clubs and casas, you'll be taking a taxi anyway. My friends here with cars spend more time in Uber or a taxi than in their own cars.
OK, good advice in general but "aggressive drivers" is a major overstatement compared to the Dominican Republic. Anyone with successful driving experience in Santo Domingo will find Medellin driving very easy by comparison. The cost of car rentals however is much more expensive, so JBee is spot on that you can get a private driver for similar cost. You can use taxis and uber for much less than the cost of renting a car. Parking is tight in Centro right now because of the now years old sewer reconstruction project. That project isn't doing much for traffic flow in Centro either. Walking is by far the fastest way to make your way around Centro. A car can be convenient for trips between Poblado and Centro but so are buses, uber, and taxis. Have a great time!
For the cost of a car, plus insurance you can hire a driver who knows his way around.
Traffic in Medellin is bad and drivers are aggressive. Motorcycles, cars and buses will squeeze by with inches to spare. The streets are a pain. You can rarely turn left. You have to find the right street with a you-turn, or where you can make a series of turns to get headed in the right direction. Then there's the problems with parking.
No matter where you stay you are probably only a short walk away from a bus stop (2000 cop) or metro station (2300 cop). If you prefer, a taxi will cost between 5000 and 15000 cop to just about anywhere you want to go. Uber is usually about the same price.
To put that in perspective, you can get almost anywhere for $5 or less. If you plan on hitting the Centro Clubs and casas, you'll be taking a taxi anyway. My friends here with cars spend more time in Uber or a taxi than in their own cars.
You are correct.
There's a lot more guys with more experience than me that can help but my 2 cents. The 3 of you just share a cab to and from airport, it's cheap. Are you planning on traveling outside of Medellin? In my visits I have never once thought, I wish I had a car. Cabs throughout the city will run you about 3 bucks total and traffic in Medellin is awful! It's not worth the headache in my opinion.
Yes, renting a car in MDE is pointless and probably more stress and aggrevation that its worth.
The most that I have ever paid for a taxi was $9-10 I think. And that was because we took a parked taxi from centro strip club.
Black Page
07-21-17, 12:07
Yes, renting a car in MDE is pointless.Cost of living, hotels, restaurants and most goods in Medellin is surprisingly inexpensive, but with just one exception: car rental fees match the high side of fees in Europe.
In addition, there is NO reason to wish to have a personal car in Medellin, unless maybe in just two cases:
1) you wish to fuck a street girl in your car (it's an experience which has its own merit and appeal, I understand);.
2) you wish to go out Medellin and be free to go where you want and with the times you want (a day spent going around Antioquia, for example in Santa Fe, Guatape, etc. Should not be missed by any tourist coming here), without the constraints of public transportation.
However, at least for me, both cases have never been really compelling enough to move me to rent a car. Indeed:
1) I had some BJs on a taxi (but the driver was already kind of my friend, after a while we knew each other, and therefore part of the fun was roaming the worst areas to hunt with him well after midnight).
2) if you don't have any local friend who can take you around on a Sunday, you can arrange a car with driver for the same price of a car rental.
Does anyone have a good, current number for Geraldine? The number I have doesn't seem to be working. Please feel free to PM.
Thanks,
Rodeo.Your inbox is full.
Your inbox is full.Can I have the info too?
Your inbox is full.If she's that good I'd like her number. LOL.
The best I, or a couple of my friends ever had was a girl that worked in Energy called Paulina. But I don't think she has been working there for about a year now. Seems like her old number doesn't work either.
If anyone has a new contact info for her, that would be special.
Black Page
07-22-17, 20:45
If she's that good I'd like her number. LOL.+1. Hurry up!
She must be that fresh type of girl, nearly inexperienced.... I wonder how she looks dressed up as colegiala.
The Tall Man
07-22-17, 22:25
1) I had some BJs on a taxi (but the driver was already kind of my friend, after a while we knew each other, and therefore part of the fun was roaming the worst areas to hunt with him well after midnight).
BP, always great solid advice you provide.
So true with this comment of your, I can never understand what it is in our perverted mind but takintg some of these calculated risks like getting a BJ in the back seat of a taxi at 2 AM in downtown bad part of medellin is fun. Jajajaja.
TTM.
World Jockey
07-23-17, 14:51
"There are plenty of ATMs in the newer front part and almost all of the local banks are represented. "
So, it's not a good idea to bring cash from the US hoping to make a simple exchange at a kiosk someplace? They don't exist here like in some places? Just work with the ATM's? Sometimes that can be a pain, what with international transaction charges, commissions, scratch-my-ass add-on fees and on and on; and adds up when you're having to visit these place everyday or two. Is there a certain ATM or Logo to look for that partners up with say Bank of America and is maybe a better deal than some of the others, or are they all about the same?Aside from the Charles Schwab account there is capital one 360 checking. This is the one I use mostly. This is the card I use for ATMs in Colombia. The only bank there that was going to hit me with a fee if I used their ATM was Citibank.
Not correct. In Thailand and Philippines for two, it is better to exchange money than to use the ATM. Money exchange places are 3 on every corner. The Thai bank charges you $6 on their end alone, while most money exchange places give you about the same as the interbank exchange. In Philippines sometimes using the exchange will give you even more than the interbank exchange. In Peru as well it is better to use the money changers on the street.Correct. I used my cap one in Thailand and Vietnam and was hit by a fee (from their end) each and every time.
Just did a few weeks in Medellin. Met some cute Venezuelans around the bars and they proved to be the highlights of my trip.
About 75% of the service around the casas and centro strip clubs was good. The good news is when you get a bad one you aren't out much cash.
The whole germophobe phenomenon seems to grow with each trip to Medellin, and is something I've never encountered in any other city. In February I first noticed the spray disinfectant bottles around some of the casas for hand sanitizing before sessions. What's hilarious though is the occasional chica that picks up the bottle after the session and sprays down the fronts of the bed sheets rather than change them. Ja Ja. And you can bet that these same girls are touching doorknobs in public places and without gloves on.
Just a quick heads up on an especially bad one, Sophia at Casa Barcelona, Calle 59 50-12. She is fairly petite, long black hair and with a distinct mole above her upper lip. She had the germophobe thing going, the spray bottle and baby wipe scrubs, but was bat shit crazy in other respects. First she claimed that my lube was "caliente" and rushed for the bathroom to scrub down her pussy with toilet paper. But my lube never touched her as I had yet to penetrate her, was only about to do so. Ja Ja. And the lube was the normal kind anyway without heat sensation.
We get going eventually but with lube from her purse, but she immediately starts clutching the condom with her hand, digging in her nails to assure that only 50% penetration was achieved. Could have also been paranoid and wanted to make sure the condom was still there. She refused to stop so I called it a day. She's also one of the ones that sprayed down the shits rather than change them. Toss a bunch of cheap, potent coke on top of a low IQ and the results will never be good.
If anyone has any questions about my trip feel free to PM and I will try to assist.
Mr Enternational
07-24-17, 01:52
The whole germophobe phenomenon seems to grow with each trip to Medellin, and is something I've never encountered in any other city.At Hong Kong strip club in Tijuana they keep a giant bottle of hand sanitizer on the part of the stage where the girls go up the steps. When one girl finished her routine she got off stage and rubbed the sanitizer all over her body like it was body lotion.
http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/medellin/encuentran-estadounidense-muerto-en-apartamento-en-medellin-112060
US citizen dies stabbed in Laureles.
Mr Enternational
07-24-17, 07:12
http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/medellin/encuentran-estadounidense-muerto-en-apartamento-en-medellin-112060
US citizen dies stabbed in Laureles.See there. Told you guys that el centro was not safe.
El Mechanico
07-24-17, 14:28
What's hilarious though is the occasional chica that picks up the bottle after the session and sprays down the fronts of the bed sheets rather than change them. J
She's also one of the ones that sprayed down the shits rather than change them. This is my opinion so crucify me if you must but. This is why I find the casas so disgusting. There are always maids running around but the sheets looks like they haven't been changed in a year!
El Mechanico.
Mr Enternational
07-24-17, 16:51
This is my opinion so crucify me if you must but. This is why I find the casas so disgusting. There are always maids running around but the sheets looks like they haven't been changed in a year!!I only ever see the maids cleaning the floor. So maybe fuck on the floor and walk on the sheets?
This is my opinion so crucify me if you must but. This is why I find the casas so disgusting. There are always maids running around but the sheets looks like they haven't been changed in a year!!
El Mechanico.Sounds like you may have only been to New Life as far as the centro casas go, as it's the only one I've seen that has maids. But in order to get a look at a room you had to commit to a session. If the sheets were so obviously filthy let's hope you made a beeline for the door and never returned.
P.S. In fairness to New Life none of the bit with spraying the sheets with hand sanitizer in lieu of changing them was ever observed by me there. I've also many times seen girls changing the sheets after a session at Aiffee, as you get a view of the most often used, large room in the front from the waiting area.
PickCherry12
07-24-17, 20:20
See there. Told you guys that el centro was not safe.This's the monger's worst nightmare. Hopefully he wasn't set up by a chica. Like one of my Argentinian friend told me, "las chicas son malas".
I'm checking purses for weapons next time a chica walks in my hotel room. But truthful you don't know what the back story is. The chicas could have been a coked up hoe. There are a lot of those chicas in el centro. But a weed head chica won't remember the hotel you fuck her in from the night before. So you don't have to worry about that with them. LOL.
Not all chicas are Malas guys. Or should I say medellin is dangerous and foreigner are stupid for going there to bang hot woman.
This's the monger's worst nightmare. Hopefully he wasn't set up by a chica. Like one of my Argentinian friend told me, "las chicas son malas".
This time around I was not looking to hang out with friends I have met in the past. At this point I have 4 friends that consider me as there novio and I didn't feel like putting up with the whole boyfriend scene. This trip I was just looking to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and pillage. And [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and pillage I did. LOL! I first went to a casa that I haven't been to in a few years. Barcelona had a decent lineup and I picked a big breasted dark skins paisa. Had decent service and loved her big breast bouncing up-and-down while she was on top. They now charge a viewing fee if you don't pick a chica. Which I thought was lame.
For my second pop I went to chicaspuntocom. They by far have the biggest line up of any casa except for New Life from back in the day. New life is a casa I just don't go to anymore. Because there management sucks. Chicaspuntocom had about 15 chicas working around 5 pm. They range from 6-9 in looks. You can find pretty much any size you like. I picked up a typical Paisa. Black hair white skins. She smiled when she shook my hand so that's all I needed to pick her. Good thing I did because gave a great BJ that lasted about a good 20 min. Which left me 10 min to fuck her. Did 2 positions and popped. I also visited the Casa on the third floor one floor up from chicaspuntocom. They are own by the same owner. Lineup was weak.
For my 3rd pop I went to Masajes Zandaly. In past visits I never went with any Chica. In the past few years they've always had the same lineup. This time was a little different. 2 chicas I recognize from previous visits and 6 new beautiful chicas. I went with a spinner from Barranquilla area. She was super fun and very willing to please my every desire.
After 3 pops I was tired and hungry. So ate and sleep until 10 pm. I have always stayed on Calle 53 (avenida Maracaibo) where there are 2 strip club walking distance from my hotel.
Club Maracaibo and Barra ejecutiva. Walked in to my surprise didn't find anything I liked. For the first time. Wtf! Shitty lineup for a Tuesday. As I walked outside a ran into a taxi driver friend of mine. Chilled outside and smoked a joint in front of the La Barra. Talked about how lame the clubs were. He said let's go to San Diego Grill. Now last time I went to San Diego Grill I had a bad time because it was so crowded and expensive. But this time it being the weekend I was 1 of 5 customers. And there were about 15 chicas bored out of there mind. The pricing structure is different then any other club. I think the bouncer said you had to pay 80 pesos as a cover and that includes three beers. I told him I don't drink beer and drink liquor. He told me you can buy half a bottle at a ridiculous price I can't remember. But I was ready to spend that night so I agree. After being seated he recommend I buy a bigger bottle that way I don't have to chicas lady drinks. I can just give away the drinks without paying the lady drink prices. I think I ended up paying 180 or 200 pesos for a bottle. But honestly it was the best move because I could give away shots without having to pay the (ficha drink price) which is about 6-8 US dollars. Out of all the chicas there was only one ugly one. The rest were 8-9. All fine as hell. I pick a typical paisa white skin black hair with a rack to die for. I interview her over some shots of rum and find out she loves to fuck and smoke weed. I say perfect. Let's go. She tried to charge 200 pesos plus 40 room fee. I laughed straight to her face. I said "maybe you'll get that on the weekend. But it's slow as fuck tonight. So you got to bring that price down". I change the subject for a bit and continue to make small talk then when I was ready to go up to the room I told her 140 pesos take it or leave it. Keep in mind this is me standing up and getting ready to go up to the room with me holding her hand. LOL. I whisper in her ear. I got a fat joint and some good dick. That was it! She Agree. We did the deed and had a blast. We cleaned up and headed back together to the bar. She begins to tell me how business is really slow and she hasn't fucked in a week. Says she in this business because she loves to fuck and make money. No kids and no drama about "I do it for my kids". Blah blah blah! After a few more drinks. I told her I want to fuck again but not here. I told here I'll pay here 150 k to come to my hotel after here shift which ends at 2 am on the week days. She agreed. She told me to wait across the street at the gas station. At about 150 am I cross the street to wait. Waited about 15 min thinking she wasn't going to show. Next thing you know a Taxi pulls up with her inside and screams out let's go! We get back to the hotel smoke some more and have a great session that lasted a good long while. She was the highlight of my trip. I will definitely be going back to San Diego Grill just not on the weekend. I'd say Sunday -Wednesday are the best. And be ready to spend at least $200 US there. But it's still a lot cheaper than what you would spend at Fase II or the other pricey clubs.
The rest of my trip I went to.
Club de amigas sex.
Paisa relax.
Saritas.
All had different line ups from previous visits. So that was a plus. There is a small freelance casa managed by a dude with one bad eye around the corner from Masajes Zandaly. He always has 2 or 3 chicas there working during the day. Mostly not worth doing but this time there was a hot 19 year old paisa with a perfect 10 body and a 8 face. This girl could have easily worked at fase dos or any high end club. She wasn't very friendly at first but once we started talking about smoking weed her eyes lite up. LOL. I asked how much was the take out fee to go to my hotel. She said I can leave when I want. Damn that was easy! I told here I pay 80 k for a few hours. Next thing you know we're smoking a joint in my balcony and getting ready to have a great session. Wow 80 k!
I love MDE!
I also walked El Centro during the day and at night. I'd say it's still dangerous if you don't look Hispanic or black. I've always walked El Centro alone and never had any trouble. I just blend in with no fancy jewelry and don't walk around using my cell phone. Last year I did get my cell phone robbed by some tranny pick pockets. But my life was not in danger.
Final thought. There are still a lot of diamond in the rough in El Centro. And anybody that pays big money in MDE all the time is definitely doing it wrong or just a idiot with lots of money. Remember guys we don't want MDE becoming the next Rio. This trip was strictly for sport fucking. And sport fuck I did! I'm going again after August 12 but chillin with my GF's. I might have one night free. So pm me if you're in town. All show you the dirt ropes.
Dcfan.
"The Dirt Continues".
CherchezFemme
07-24-17, 23:59
New talent flowing in.
https://www.economist.com/news/americas/21725351-women-fleeing-poverty-get-right-work-prostitutes-venezuelans-sell-sex-colombia?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/venezuelanssellsexincolombiatosurvive
Worried about cleanliness of a sheet? Bring your own. You should be worried about a girl. There are no diamonds in the rough in the city centre, only rough. And of course, anyone looking for same sex, should take it to SEA where this type of activity may be safer (and I am posting it following likely to the latest murder just to make a point on security).
They also mop the floor.
Sounds like you may have only been to New Life as far as the centro casas go, as it's the only one I've seen that has maids. But in order to get a look at a room you had to commit to a session. If the sheets were so obviously filthy let's hope you made a beeline for the door and never returned.
P.S. In fairness to New Life none of the bit with spraying the sheets with hand sanitizer in lieu of changing them was ever observed by me there. I've also many times seen girls changing the sheets after a session at Aiffee, as you get a view of the most often used, large room in the front from the waiting area.
They also mop the floor.I've seen the same at the Coffee Shop and Puntos.
Black Page
07-25-17, 10:56
There are no diamonds in the rough in the city centre, only rough. And of course, anyone looking for same sex, should take it to SEA where this type of activity may be safer (and I am posting it following likely to the latest murder just to make a point on security).I am sincerely sorry you could not find the gems in the centre. Maybe you were not lucky, maybe you were not a good hunter. There are indeed! But as when you look for jewels in the sand of a beach, you need a good detector and perseverance. I cannot forget a couple of girls I met on the streets of San Diego and Prado well after 9 pm. Beautiful and sweet, just hit badly by life accidents. Last time I looked for my last "girlfriend" roaming around with taxi and asking others, but we could not find her, even if the taxi driver was swearing he saw her weeks before. (I am not sure he really could recognize her after months).
And of course, anyone looking for same sex, should take it to SEA where this type of activity may be safer (and I am posting it following likely to the latest murder just to make a point on security).I do share with you your appreciation for SEA girls, and definitely SEA is another planet when we speak about safety. However, I don't think anyone was ever robbed in a Centro casa. Casas are 100% safe, because it's their business to be safe. Another thing is bringing a girl at home, definitely.
I do share with you your appreciation for SEA girls, and definitely SEA is another planet when we speak about safety. However, I don't think anyone was ever robbed in a Centro casa. Casas are 100% safe, because it's their business to be safe. Another thing is bringing a girl at home, definitely.I don't think he was referring to SEA "girls".
El Mechanico
07-25-17, 15:48
I don't think he was referring to SEA "girls".Excuse my ignorance but does SEA mean South East Asia?
Thanks,
El Mechanico.
Mr Enternational
07-25-17, 16:20
Excuse my ignorance but does SEA mean South East Asia?
Thanks,
El Mechanico.Indeed it does, but the part where he mentioned "anyone looking for same sex" did not mean girls (unless his post was only intended for girls)!
New talent flowing in.
https://www.economist.com/news/americas/21725351-women-fleeing-poverty-get-right-work-prostitutes-venezuelans-sell-sex-colombia?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/venezuelanssellsexincolombiatosurviveThis has been mentioned many times already. Someone else already posted this link. Or maybe it was you again. Venezuelan girls working in Colombia is not news anymore. What we need is a club or casa full of them. The only club in Colombia that I seen full of them was in Santa Marta, but I am sure border cities like Cucuta are full of them also. I actually went to Cucuta for a couple days and I didn't have any luck with the area that I went to because I went too early. Lots or bars and restaurants here Venezuelans people. They will work long and hard for very low pay, so restaurants love to hire them. I was talking to an English speaking restaurant owner in Laureles and he said next door had 4 of them. And across the street has 2. A very small bar I know owned by an American hires a nice looking Venezuelan girl as the bar tender. There are all up and in Parque Lleras also. If you can speak good Spanish maybe you can ask them on a date and see where that goes. Oh, and in Bello, I went to party up there and the club knew to send the English speak Venezuelan guy to serve me.
... There are no diamonds in the rough in the city centre, only rough...Speak for yourself amigo.
If you know what you're doing, they can definitely be found.
My last couple return trips to Medellin have been to hang with my 18 year old diamond I met in el Centro.
Men, I've been hunting in Centro for a few years now, yes you can find a diamond, I found 2 without even trying my last trip. That being said, Centro is for the experienced, not you novices, Remember it's all about attitude. Never let your guard down in Centro. It can be Dangerous.
El Mechanico
07-27-17, 15:19
Centro is for the experienced, not you novices,How many times had you been to Centro the first time you went?
El Mechanico.
Men, I've been hunting in Centro for a few years now, yes you can find a diamond, I found 2 without even trying my last trip. That being said, Centro is for the experienced, not you novices, Remember it's all about attitude. Never let your guard down in Centro. It can be Dangerous.I agree. I've been going to Colombia for the past ten years. The general situation remains oversupply of girls to clients. For every naive gringo who overpays a girl terribly there are 25 locals that want to give the girl 30 mil pesos for a session. So a girl will take minimal money, as long as you show you will not overspend. Colombians have their class systems just like any country, so very poor girls are forced to sell themselves to their own class. So yes, a beautiful girl can be found anywhere in Colombia in any class or barrio. But like its been said a million times, one has to search a bit for one. Go to all mall in America or Germany or whatever, most women are normal looking and not the dream girls we chase. So its no different. Diamonds don't grow on trees in any part of the world.
BlueChange
07-27-17, 16:55
This has been mentioned many times already. Someone else already posted this link. Or maybe it was you again. Venezuelan girls working in Colombia is not news anymore. What we need is a club or casa full of them. The only club in Colombia that I seen full of them was in Santa Marta, but I am sure border cities like Cucuta are full of them also. I actually went to Cucuta for a couple days and I didn't have any luck with the area that I went to because I went too early. Lots or bars and restaurants here Venezuelans people. They will work long and hard for very low pay, so restaurants love to hire them. I was talking to an English speaking restaurant owner in Laureles and he said next door had 4 of them. And across the street has 2. A very small bar I know owned by an American hires a nice looking Venezuelan girl as the bar tender. There are all up and in Parque Lleras also. If you can speak good Spanish maybe you can ask them on a date and see where that goes. Oh, and in Bello, I went to party up there and the club knew to send the English speak Venezuelan guy to serve me.I was in Cucuta, it is such a shit city haha. THere is like literally nothing to do and a dog walking in the streets and near the resturuants. Total crazy weird cliche colombian bordertown. I was there only to fuck this one girl I have been talking with for sometime that I met on CC. She is not a pro or a semi or anyhting like that. Just a regular girl. She has a pretty face. But after I nutted I couldn't wait to leave that place. It really is an aweful city. I am aware of the VNZ there. Just go to the bodytech and you see them all working out. Total VNZ sluts!
Hasideas Tao
07-28-17, 20:04
I was in Cucuta, it is such a shit city haha. THere is like literally nothing to do and a dog walking in the streets and near the restaurants. Total crazy weird cliche colombian bordertown. I was there only to fuck this one girl I have been talking with for sometime that I met on CC. She is not a pro or a semi or anything like that. Just a regular girl. She has a pretty face. But after I nutted I couldn't wait to leave that place. It really is an aweful city. I am aware of the VNZ there. Just go to the bodytech and you see them all working out. Total VNZ sluts!Some girls I have met have sometimes mentioned they leave Medellin to work in some not so far pueblos and hang out at bars. A few times I heard mention of a gold mining town that apparently has a comparatively wealthy clientele. Anyone have a guess which pueblos might be some of the better ones?
Some girls I have met have sometimes mentioned they leave Medellin to work in some not so far pueblos and hang out at bars. A few times I heard mention of a gold mining town that apparently has a comparatively wealthy clientele. Anyone have a guess which pueblos might be some of the better ones?I think it is far away, but there is a video on YouTube about gold mines in Antioquia, Colombia. https://youtu.be/z_KAOD6IZmE They talk about erection problems because they are using Mercury to extract the gold. It's a pretty interesting video.
I agree. I've been going to Colombia for the past ten years. The general situation remains oversupply of girls to clients. For every naive gringo who overpays a girl terribly there are 25 locals that want to give the girl 30 mil pesos for a session. So a girl will take minimal money, as long as you show you will not overspend. Colombians have their class systems just like any country, so very poor girls are forced to sell themselves to their own class. So yes, a beautiful girl can be found anywhere in Colombia in any class or barrio. But like its been said a million times, one has to search a bit for one. Go to all mall in America or Germany or whatever, most women are normal looking and not the dream girls we chase. So its no different. Diamonds don't grow on trees in any part of the world.Nothing wrong with gringo's overpaying poor working girls. A much needed transfer of wealth, albeit small.
Friday afternoon met up with a friend for my first planned casa run. Selected Aiffe and on the way the cabbie said he knew the best place and offered to take us there. He pointed it out as we passed by, before dropping us at Aiffe (Calle 57 #43-27). Lineup was mostly mediocre. Some good bodies, but nothing much in the faces. Only the Last 2 who came out looked doable. We said thanks and walked out.
Went around the block to the taxis recommendation and headed up the stairs. Turned out to be New Life (Calle 56 #43-39). I hadn't studied the map, just pulled up one address. New Life was much better. About twice as many in the lineup and several excellent choices. Close to 15 available and I'm sure several were busy. Hardest part about making a choice was remembering the names.
Picked a curvy spinner and headed up stairs. As has been mentioned, the upstairs rooms can be hot, although wasn't too bad. Room was clean girl performed with a reasonable amount of enthusiasm. I was happy with the result. My friend reported his was also very good. On the way out spotted a few New girls that looked incredible.
Prices (if I remember) 35 k - 15 m, 50 k - 30 m, 65 k - 45 m, 80 k - 60 m. Price list says 4 k for beer, 2 k for water.
We seemed to be the only gringos there, with lots of Colombians keeping the place busy.
Airbnb is full of them. Look for ones without a doorman and / or are run by a business. There's at least two companies that rent out apartments in Colombia and they have a bunch around parque lleras. I hope you like noise, though.In the last few months a lot of Airbnb and short term rentals have been closed down. The short term rentals need to be in approved buildings. And the Airbnb places need to register with the government. In a monger owned building I know, the rentals have been shut down until the owners get licensed. You might not see as many Airbnb places as you used to.
Yep, hotel operators are fed up with paying taxes, government fees, insurance and advertising only to be squeezed out by airbnb providers who undersell because they pay none of that. Airbnb will be back in full force but prices will go up.
In the last few months a lot of Airbnb and short term rentals have been closed down. The short term rentals need to be in approved buildings. And the Airbnb places need to register with the government. In a monger owned building I know, the rentals have been shut down until the owners get licensed. You might not see as many Airbnb places as you used to.
RedHot MyGirl
07-30-17, 11:23
Hi Guys,
Am a single traveller to Medellin between August 24-September 7 next month.
As we all know, single mongering can get a littler tiring.
So folks, if in town on same dates, do drop a PM.
We could be a team.
Mr Enternational
07-30-17, 17:59
Yep, hotel operators are fed up with paying taxes, government fees, insurance and advertising only to be squeezed out by airbnb providers who undersell because they pay none of that. Airbnb will be back in full force but prices will go up.In Thailand it is the people that live permanently in the condos that complain about all the party noise and in and out with hookers from air bnbers. The govt had made a rule that unless a person is staying at least 25 days then you could not rent out a place to them. I think that lasted all of 2 days because I have not heard anything else about it. Many people buy those condos only to rent them out. Air bnb and Uber have really shaken things up in the hospitality / transportation industry.
P. S. Air bnb does not offer the same amenities as a hotel, so hotel operators should not have shit to say. There is not even a thin line between renting a hotel room and a condo.
Picked up two out of three here in Centro around 930 p. One for me and one for my buddy. After getting back to my place in Centro we decided to switch girls. I liked his but we were running out of marching powder so around 1 am we stepped out and into a taxi to refuel. One street off of Oriental while waiting at a light, we see the cutie on the left loitering on the sidewalk and invite her to join us. She obliges and my chica talks up a storm about how good of a guy I am, etc.
Get our supplies for 8 k a gram, give the guy 50 k and tell him to keep the 5 k tip. Taxi there and back runs us 10 k.
Back at my place we get to the room and the fun begins. Offer both some propina for extra lesbo action and as much no holds barred as my imagination will allow. They are up for it and we have a great time. About an hour my first girl who was with my buddy strolls in and says they weren't doing anything because he was tired. She joins in on our fun and we all rock out till about 9 a. Total damage for the girls was about 500 k. They loved the sexy outfits I brought for them. And the dildo too.
LifeIsABeach
07-31-17, 06:44
Hi Guys, Am a single traveller to Medellin between August 24-September 7 next month. As we all know, single mongering can get a littler tiring. So folks, if in town on same dates, do drop a PM. We could be a team.I'll be in MDE from 8/28 till 9/3 in Pablado. Will have details about apt by tomorrow. Mine is a fact finding mission but a pias or two won't hurt!. Could have a beer or two during that time.
RedHot MyGirl
07-31-17, 09:32
I'll be in MDE from 8/28 till 9/3 in Pablado. Will have details about apt by tomorrow. Mine is a fact finding mission but a pias or two won't hurt!. Could have a beer or two during that time.Sure mate, look forward to.
I can see where the full time condo residents are coming from. After all, who would want to live next door to a never ending hooker and monger parade with its associated noise and petty crime?
In Thailand it is the people that live permanently in the condos that complain about all the party noise and in and out with hookers from air bnbers. The govt had made a rule that unless a person is staying at least 25 days then you could not rent out a place to them. I think that lasted all of 2 days because I have not heard anything else about it. Many people buy those condos only to rent them out. Air bnb and Uber have really shaken things up in the hospitality / transportation industry.
P. S. Air bnb does not offer the same amenities as a hotel, so hotel operators should not have shit to say. There is not even a thin line between renting a hotel room and a condo.
I can see where the full time condo residents are coming from. After all, who would want to live next door to a never ending hooker and monger parade with its associated noise and petty crime?I know some owners in various buildings. Some building are just small places with no security. That is a good place for a monger. Most of the decent sized buildings here have security. It seems like some of the security companies almost make their own rules. The place I am in right now is are very aware of everything. They started saying my name every time I come or go starting from day one. And they have lots of rules posted in the elevator. They do have so called owners meetings though. In the monger building I know they also have owner meetings to make their own rules. I'm sure most of the regular buildings that have been around for awhile don't want people coming and going all the time. A lot of the new and legal Airbnb places here seem to be very new buildings of which must have had the rules set so they could have short term rentals. I think about half of the Airbnb places I used to stay at here in Medellin aren't able to rent right now.
BigMonkeyP
08-03-17, 07:14
Sure mate, look forward to.Hi both,
I just booked a trip down to MDE. Will be there 30 Aug til 3 Sept. I'm mongering solo, so would dig meeting up over a beer and maybe hitting up a casa or two.
I've been on this board before, can't remember my old username login. But just saying I'm not quite a noob. But not quite a pro. Second time to MDE.
Hit me up? I'm staying at the Hotel M (aka Mansion) on the first night. But have to move to either Art Hotel or one of the Hotel Daans because mansion is booked up. (first time at the mansion for me. Bummer I couldn't score one of the rooms with the hot tub!
Cheers.
BigMonkeyP
08-03-17, 07:25
Picked up two out of three here in Centro around 930 p. One for me and one for my buddy. After getting back to my place in Centro we decided to switch girls. I liked his but we were running out of marching powder so around 1 am we stepped out and into a taxi to refuel. One street off of Oriental while waiting at a light, we see the cutie on the left loitering on the sidewalk and invite her to join us. She obliges and my chica talks up a storm about how good of a guy I am, etc.
Get our supplies for 8 k a gram, give the guy 50 k and tell him to keep the 5 k tip. Taxi there and back runs us 10 k.
Back at my place we get to the room and the fun begins. Offer both some propina for extra lesbo action and as much no holds barred as my imagination will allow. They are up for it and we have a great time. About an hour my first girl who was with my buddy strolls in and says they weren't doing anything because he was tired. She joins in on our fun and we all rock out till about 9 a. Total damage for the girls was about 500 k. They loved the sexy outfits I brought for them. And the dildo too.That is an incredible story -sounds super fun. I don't mess around much at all, but did when early 20's. But last year in Madrid I had a similar story (but with one girl). It was a hotel out in an industrial area part of town, attached nightclub. Lots of Romanians. Anyway, I loved that I took the girl to the room. And she was like hey do you need any (marching powder). My girl has some just down the hall. I gave her some cash she came back with a bundle, we shared for the next few hours. And she even gave me the leftovers. Anyway, although super fun. Incredibly risky on my part I suppose. But there's a side of me that wants similar in Colombia. Got any tips, advice?
Landed 6 pm Fri:
1st girl a Venz chick at Barre Excetiva Fri night while waiting for Fase Dos to open. 90 k. Forgot her name, no pics, hot bod, OK time but too hot when the club is packed.
2nd girl a stunning plastic blonde at Fase Dos, named Allison, no pics, 190 k, really hot and fun.
Sat:
AM: Vera Cruz Redlight block pickup, cutie spinner with colored headband-30 k.
PM, hook up with my sweetie Tanya from Conejitas from last time, 300 k per 12 HR-black hair / sunglasses / soda in pic-went to her bar to score for my wingman then Parque Boston for drinks & fun-TLN.
Sun AM-Tanya & her buddy up to Parque Arvi, lunch, boating, pics, food, smoke..Do you have contact info for the girl with blond streaks?
Do you have contact info for the girl with blond streaks?I did have her WhatsApp contact and we were chatting daily till about 2 weeks ago when she went dark, I suspect she lost her phone and contacts as she was excited I was coming back down next month.
I ran into her 2 days in a row in the same block, behind Iglesia VeraCruz-the old white church just SW of Botero Park, on the other side of the street at the and end. (SW corner of Calle 52 & Carrera 53) She goes by Sara.
You can see when / where I met her in this vid here: (G rated).
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593d7efb11739
She has some cool tattoos too:
Do you have contact info for the girl with blond streaks?Looking at Google Street view I'd say she works out of Hotel Dinastia, which is 2 doors to the left of Drogueria Moderna, Carr 53 #51-57.
DickSaylor
08-04-17, 23:34
Picked up two out of three here in Centro around 930 p. One for me and one for my buddy. After getting back to my place in Centro we decided to switch girls. I liked his but we were running out of marching powder so around 1 am we stepped out and into a taxi to refuel. One street off of Oriental while waiting at a light, we see the cutie on the left loitering on the sidewalk and invite her to join us. She obliges and my chica talks up a storm about how good of a guy I am, etc.
Get our supplies for 8 k a gram, give the guy 50 k and tell him to keep the 5 k tip. Taxi there and back runs us 10 k.
Back at my place we get to the room and the fun begins. Offer both some propina for extra lesbo action and as much no holds barred as my imagination will allow. They are up for it and we have a great time. About an hour my first girl who was with my buddy strolls in and says they weren't doing anything because he was tired. She joins in on our fun and we all rock out till about 9 a. Total damage for the girls was about 500 k. They loved the sexy outfits I brought for them. And the dildo too.Be very careful with that stuff. They are cracking down on the powder there. Carry only less than 1 g each (personal use) and be prepared to pay a "large fine" at a check point if caught. I know a guy that had to talk his way out of being hauled to an immigration jail and coughed up a large sum- for having 420 on him!
Picked up two out of three here in Centro around 930 p. One for me and one for my buddy. After getting back to my place in Centro we decided to switch girls. I liked his but we were running out of marching powder so around 1 am we stepped out and into a taxi to refuel. One street off of Oriental while waiting at a light, we see the cutie on the left loitering on the sidewalk and invite her to join us. She obliges and my chica talks up a storm about how good of a guy I am, etc.
Get our supplies for 8 k a gram, give the guy 50 k and tell him to keep the 5 k tip. Taxi there and back runs us 10 k.
Back at my place we get to the room and the fun begins. Offer both some propina for extra lesbo action and as much no holds barred as my imagination will allow. They are up for it and we have a great time. About an hour my first girl who was with my buddy strolls in and says they weren't doing anything because he was tired. She joins in on our fun and we all rock out till about 9 a. Total damage for the girls was about 500 k. They loved the sexy outfits I brought for them. And the dildo too.Sounds like your buddy is a real jerk. Tired in Mde I can't believe it. You need some new friends. 😜.
Sounds like your buddy is a real jerk. Tired in Mde I can't believe it. You need some new friends. 😜.He got to fuck his buddies chick. So how is that being a jerk? If I got to fuck my buddies girl and got a threesome I would call my buddy a fool, sucker, loser, newbie, or a chump. But I wouldn't call him a jerk.
Do you have contact info for the girl with blond streaks?Thanks wolf!
DrMcNaughty
08-06-17, 19:02
Good news for the Venezuelans and Cuban in Colombia that are here illegally overstaying their visas received this new order by the Colombian government. They will allow them 2 more years in the country and to work legally. Colombia just got even a whole lot better for us! Yes!
Men please leave those subjects out of our great forum, we are here for the beautiful women of this city,.
How many times had you been to Centro the first time you went?
El Mechanico.On my 2nd trip out there, sorry for the late reply.
Men please leave those subjects out of our great forum, we are here for the beautiful women of this city,.I agree with Bacano!
I wish we'd keep it to women and ATM fees only, LOL.
Men please leave those subjects out of our great forum, we are here for the beautiful women of this city,.Just like you should not be here with your lifestyle.
El Mechanico
08-07-17, 15:50
On my 2nd trip out there, sorry for the late reply.I was kinda guffing you, for saying don't go to Centro if you haven't been there before. Or centro isn't for newbies. Anyway, I meant, how many times had you been to Centro before the first time you went to Centro? Like if we've never been there, we can't go because we haven't been there before. Anyway, all good. Thanks for your reports.
El Mechanico.
C Jack Sparrow
08-07-17, 19:55
Good news for the Venezuelans and Cuban in Colombia that are here illegally overstaying their visas received this new order by the Colombian government. They will allow them 2 more years in the country and to work legally. Colombia just got even a whole lot better for us! Yes!I have 2 , actually had, or have, 2 Perfect 10's, or +9's, that with $ signs in their eyes wanted to marry to come here to Scandinavia and work legally and make, as an independent, today's exchange rate close to 1,2 million pesos per client.
They are both 30 yo old and can go on for 5-15 years depending on; plastic surgery (development of), Cross-fit, overall knowable and social skills as an escort.
My local Princesa is 44. She looks like 33, tops, maybe even under 30. Of course she is imported from Ukraine. I met her at the gym often and, well, she is very very polite and charming, but must of course have a rich guy supporting her in someway. A Princess does know her value, we guys at the gym can just adore her.
1-2 even 3 years of visits here, and I in Medellin, then I will have her confidence? On the other hand, Modelo de Protocolo, divine babe Emily, said instantly after my proposal "Casamos y Vamos" (Let's get Married and GO! But my $$ was and are on low, and she has a son, 12 yo. My form where at it's best, then came a downhill battle, than I have recovered from by working-out 24/7, until I get sick, and then start all over again. Until my Painkillers does not affect my "Verga" or my simple low-prestige, but in the end well paid work, for very little actual "real work".
While bring a Prepago here, I take no $$$ of her earnings, more than that she, sharing our living expenses fairly, and give me super-sex, which was I got of her in Medellin. The most amazing sex ever. She reminds very much of Lela Star.
The problem and opportunity; she is used to get good money for sex, while planning the whole operation is done by the man. Which is good but of course but very frustrating. Since it's a game for her! These girls / women are so used that the man takes care of everything, so the only thing they have to do is to how to figure out how to swindle him. And in the most charming way. I have had my personal Stalingrad, Waterloo and Pearl Harbor. And Kursk and Dunkirk. Heavy losses, disasters, alongside many unforgettable easy victories.
Then, when established here in our Nordic superexpensive countries. Overall cost of living- she can bring in her friends on tourist visas. 3 months. 3 of them. And I have have 4 bunnies to play with. Period!
And when going to my beloved Medellin, I have her and her bunnies for free there.
A dream, impossible to accomplish since Paisas, as all Latin girls / women are so full of hot blood, that they instantly try to become independent of each man having control over them, even if make the whole enterprise fall apart.
I'm sure though, that 100th's if not 1000th's are doing this in the US, Canada, Europe, Russia, China. The husband gives them legal status. And after a period of, 2-5 years, they are fully integrated in those country's legal, social system.
I have 2 , actually had, or have, 2 Perfect 10's, or +9's, that with $ signs in their eyes wanted to marry to come here to Scandinavia and work legally and make, as an independent, today's exchange rate close to 1,2 million pesos per client.
They are both 30 yo old and can go on for 5-15 years depending on; plastic surgery (development of), Cross-fit, overall knowable and social skills as an escort.
My local Princesa is 44. She looks like 33, tops, maybe even under 30. Of course she is imported from Ukraine. I met her at the gym often and, well, she is very very polite and charming, but must of course have a rich guy supporting her in someway. A Princess does know her value, we guys at the gym can just adore her.
1-2 even 3 years of visits here, and I in Medellin, then I will have her confidence? On the other hand, Modelo de Protocolo, divine babe Emily, said instantly after my proposal "Casamos y Vamos" (Let's get Married and GO! But my $$ was and are on low, and she has a son, 12 yo. My form where at it's best, then came a downhill battle, than I have recovered from by working-out 24/7, until I get sick, and then start all over again. Until my Painkillers does not affect my "Verga" or my simple low-prestige, but in the end well paid work, for very little actual "real work".
While bring a Prepago here, I take no $$$ of her earnings, more than that she, sharing our living expenses fairly, and give me super-sex, which was I got of her in Medellin. The most amazing sex ever. She reminds very much of Lela Star..Jack, you hittin those cigarros mágicos again? LOL.
Just kidding, great post!
Not sure what it was about though, LOL.
Way overdue report, regarding my virgin trip to Medellin.
First, I read / studied / memorized the forum posts here, so had some good info to work with. Thanks to all. As I mentioned, after suffering through and then being cured from a terrible affliction I had for 17 years, known as 'terminal marriage,' I was definitely looking forward to this trip.
I had some foundation of Spanish and worked at improving in the months leading up to trip, and that paid off big time and ended up being a huge benefit for me, in terms of enjoying my experience.
I starting identifying and then contacting chicas online (Cupid), and that worked out beautifully. Based on suggestions, I lined up an A team and a be team. The A team worked out, so actually was not able to meet all the girls I conversed with online.
Flew in from FTL, on Spirit. Breezed through customs in Medellin, and took car service to my rental apartment in Envigado. I had arranged to meet one of my online chicas that evening, and sure as hell she showed up, on time, in a taxi in front of my place. I paid for the taxi and we walked to a restaurant nearby and had a nice dinner. She looked as good as pics, dressed up, made up, looking sexy. Things were a bit awkward as first until I started to hit my stride with my Spanish. I wasn't sure what to expect, as this felt more like a true first date. I asked her to come back to my place, as I had a gift for her (couple of $5 items from the sales rack at Victoria's Secret). She agreed, we went up, and within 10 minutes it was game on. Had a great session with her, she stayed about 2 hours. When we were done, I actually did not give her any $ (in retrospect I should have). I did end up meeting up with her two days later, and took her to the mall and spent about $130 US on her. I did get another awesome sex session with her that afternoon, so I guess monetarily it evened out. She actually invited me over to her apt. For dinner the following night, but I ended up opting out as I had a buddy who was in Medellin for (legit) business and wanted to hang out with him.
The next morning, another of the online girls came over. She stopped before she had to go to school. She came right up to apt. 19 years old, petite, really cute. I pulled the same routine with her with the little gifts, and within 10 minutes clothes were flying. She was a hot and horny lady. She stayed about 90 minutes, I gave her $150 mil and she thanked me. I actually did not see her again, although I wish I would have. We are keeping in touch on Whats App.
My friend took me out to the countryside, where he has some family businesses. He let me know he had a hot date lined up for that night, so told me to find a date so we could go to dinner. I went back on line (Col. Cupid) and connected with two chicas. One a real petite cutie, said she was busy that night but could come see me that afternoon. She was more up front about $, to make sure we were on same page, no problem. We set up a time and I met her at a restaurant across from my place. She was adorable, a flaca, 25 years old, dressed very nicely. We went right upstairs, I pulled the next bag of little gifts, that technique was a winner. Ended up having a wonderful session with her. She stayed about 2 hours. I gave her $200 mil. I was so impressed with her, I had her come over the next day, in the afternoon, and we had another awesome session. We got cleaned up and I took her to lunch nearby. After that we went back to the apartment, and went another round! She seemed in no hurry to leave, we showered together then hung out and talked for quite a while. I again gave her $200 mil before she left.
Funny thing is, this chica was my favorite, and seemed so sweet, but turned out to be a jugador. No sooner did I get back home to US, but she starts texting me and hitting me up for money (my electricity is getting cut off, I'm in the hospital, my daughter is sick). So she burst the bubble on my little deluded fantasy ('wow this gal really likes me! LOL.
I tried to meet up with the other chica that night, from online, but didn't work out. Instead I ended up at a nice strip club (Fase Dos? About 11 pm. Many hot chicas, from probably 7's to 9.5's. I talked to a couple of fellow gringos, and after some time (too much time) and ended up connecting with a kind of sweet looking 27 year old. I checked her out, (that took forever) went next door and had a very high value session with her. I think is was $190 mil to the cashier to check her out, and I tipped her $40 mil. Some of those chicas in there could make a small fortune at the right strip club in the USA, just dancing and giving lap dances. Gorgeous women, and incredible pole dancing.
So in 5 days there, I had 6 great sessions with 4 different chicas. Every session was true GFE type experience. My trip was not all sex conquests as I had some time hanging out with my buddy down there, and got to see the countryside and some local sites.
Regarding chicas, the online approach worked out awesome. I would definitely do the strip club again, and like to experience a good casa. I'm not a street scene type of guy.
Planning my next trip in September!
Gents,
I'm all booked for a visit to Medellin 3/30, for 5 nights. Post divorce present to myself. I used to spend a lot of time in South America for work (many years ago, in a much more naive and less devious frame of mind). I also speak OK Spanish.
I plan to meet up with a couple ladies I've connected with on Col Cupid (actually, I'm corresponding with several, but not enough time!) A couple seem like regular girls or semi-pros who (I hope) are open to fun with a cool gringo; a couple others seem like veterans. I'll get more direct to the point on our Whatsapp and Facebook conversations before my trip. I don't mind some wining and dining, but there needs to be some sexy time too.
I'd also like to try out a couple of the strip clubs and the night club scene. Not sure if I'll hit the 'spas' but a possibility.
Staying in an apartment in Envigado. Want to experience more local flavor, while still being close enough to the action. Hopefully I planned that part right.
Anyone going to be in Medellin at the same time, I'd be happy to meet up!
C.
Jack, you hittin those cigarros mgicos again? LOL.
Just kidding, great post!
Not sure what it was about though, LOL.I think it's something a little harder, if I understand. I'll try a translation.
He's talking about marrying a Colombian prepago, taking her back to Scandinavia, getting her legal residence status and then pimping her out at the local rates. He then gets to have sex with her for free and she will pay her share of living expenses. As a bonus, she will bring friends on tourist visas to also work at the local rates and he gets to have all the free sex wants with all of them.
Wouldn't that be great? At least it's a great dream. Here's the reality:
1. She gets to his country and has no desire to work and certainly isn't going to help pay his bills. The sex will be great, then good, then okay, then never. She'll either want frequent return trips to Colombia, or want frequent trips for her family to come and visit. If any prepago friends come to visit it will be at his expense and they'll either be off limits or charging the high end of local rates. In less than two years she'll be headed back to Colombia and he will be a lot poorer.
2. She marries him, comes with him and works. She might agree to give him a cut, to pay some of the expenses, but she'll also expect him to pay for her services. He might get a discount. If any friends come over to work they'll either be off limits or will charge local rates. She'll expect him to pay for her family to visit several times per year, when She won't work or pay bills and will expect royal treatment for them. She'll be back in Colombia in 2 years and he will be a lot poorer.
I think it's something a little harder, if I understand. I'll try a translation.
He's talking about marrying a Colombian prepago, taking her back to Scandinavia, getting her legal residence status and then pimping her out at the local rates. He then gets to have sex with her for free and she will pay her share of living expenses. As a bonus, she will bring friends on tourist visas to also work at the local rates and he gets to have all the free sex wants with all of them.Great translation, thanks!
I'll avoid all that drama and bankruptcy, and just stay in Colombia, LOL.
C Jack Sparrow
08-08-17, 11:20
I wrote again that she must be married to me for maybe 3 years before she get permanent residence. And during that time she must study, even if a part of it is done via Internet, that option exist.
If she get's complicated, I'll just divorce and she have to leave back to Colombia. So can't be that cocky as she is used to in Colombia. Besides, every period away from Scandinavia, prolongs the time she can get her permanent visa, and it can lead to irritation and a finally NO from the Migration's Office.
Bringing her equally hot friends on tourist-visa demands planning and patience. My wife will charge them a %, not me.
She is high class. She would do overnight stays only in 4/5 star hotels. Short-term is a dead end since cities here re very small, like Marinilla with 20.000.
Copenhagen is just 30 minutes away with 2,4 million people. More competition, but also a lot of businessmen at hand.
I wrote my post last night and I also wrote to her, and did not expect a reply. But since she has been to Spain and Romania this summer, she was eager to come to Europe NOW!
I asked if she was working there during her holiday. No, just a first visit to Europe. Hmmm. Since she is superhot she was of course invited by a guy that know her from Medellin, and then they went to Romania. (The problem here in normal countries, is that enhanced lips, breasts, botox, ass-enhancement are normal in Medellin but here the culture is prudent to a fault, except for the short summer, when hormones becomes stronger than both the law and norms. We take a vacation from our strict moral codes.
IQ. Yeah! She think $$ but have no clue that she already spent maybe 30-40 days of her 90 yearly in the Schengen-area. I asked her about it, and she she replied " 90 days sounds good". Jesus Help Me!
She does not even get / have such basic knowledge.
Due to the supply / demand factor I can easily replace her, since she are the one having smoking those magical cigarllios. For many years.
For reasons unknown, she wanted to come here NOW! Which draws me to the conclusion that she has been here as an "acompanate de luxe", and can use me as a bridgehead to get permanent visa. But even this fundamental detail she ignores, it has to be now (addicted).
I take a risk. But she even more, she must have her Visa, cedula, etc. In 100% order. If not, she will be expelled and not worth another try.
The problem is not then to get her here and she makes good money and I get what I want. It's that she pays no attention to rules, laws, like they don't exist! And are not interested in paying any attention on how it works.
Back in 2008, a girl from BAQ got it very clearly; she took contact with the embassy in Bogota, learned all laws, rules. And she was 21!
Not a 27/+30 prepago having escaped reality for 10-15 years. She is used to have a boss that puts her in an apartment in Poblado or Laureles 8 to 24 HR 5-6 days a week, in periods for 1-3 months. Or she has become independent and can manage that herself.
I told her that in Scandinavia she earns 10 times more working at Exito, than in Colombia. Which is more than she makes as a prepago in Medellin, all expenses included! And that is just a first time job to start with.
She said "ok", but meant; I don't work.
I think I will have a serious Skype conversation with her today. And look at Latineuro, a very underestimated site. A girl who never have been in touch with the prepago-world, would consider 5-7 million COP / month a Superdeal, and combine that with study language. And being younger, with an open mind and happy spirit! That is way better, but of course boring in the end.
My Super-prepagos would / will cause a lot of problems. It's just amazing, the thought, how much they could make and at the same time giving me awesome sex, her friends visiting etc.
I wrote again that she must be married to me for maybe 3 years before she get permanent residence. And during that time she must study, even if a part of it is done via Internet, that option exist.
If she get's complicated, I'll just divorce and she have to leave back to Colombia. So can't be that cocky as she is used to in Colombia. Besides, every period away from Scandinavia, prolongs the time she can get her permanent visa, and it can lead to irritation and a finally NO from the Migration's Office.
Bringing her equally hot friends on tourist-visa demands planning and patience. My wife will charge them a %, not me.
She is high class. She would do overnight stays only in 4/5 star hotels. Short-term is a dead end since cities here re very small, like Marinilla with 20.000.
Copenhagen is just 30 minutes away with 2,4 million people. More competition, but also a lot of businessmen at hand.
I wrote my post last night and I also wrote to her, and did not expect a reply. But since she has been to Spain and Romania this summer, she was eager to come to Europe NOW!
I asked if she was working there during her holiday. No, just a first visit to Europe. Hmmm. Since she is superhot she was of course invited by a guy that know her from Medellin, and then they went to Romania. (The problem here in normal countries, is that enhanced lips, breasts, botox, ass-enhancement are normal in Medellin but here the culture is prudent to a fault, except for the short summer, when hormones becomes stronger than both the law and norms. We take a vacation from our strict moral codes.
IQ. Yeah! She think $$ but have no clue that she already spent maybe 30-40 days of her 90 yearly in the Schengen-area. I asked her about it, and she she replied " 90 days sounds good". Jesus Help Me!
She does not even get / have such basic knowledge.
Due to the supply / demand factor I can easily replace her, since she are the one having smoking those magical cigarllios. For many years.
For reasons unknown, she wanted to come here NOW! Which draws me to the conclusion that she has been here as an "acompanate de luxe", and can use me as a bridgehead to get permanent visa. But even this fundamental detail she ignores, it has to be now (addicted).
I take a risk. But she even more, she must have her Visa, cedula, etc. In 100% order. If not, she will be expelled and not worth another try.
The problem is not then to get her here and she makes good money and I get what I want. It's that she pays no attention to rules, laws, like they don't exist! And are not interested in paying any attention on how it works.
Back in 2008, a girl from BAQ got it very clearly; she took contact with the embassy in Bogota, learned all laws, rules. And she was 21!
Not a 27/+30 prepago having escaped reality for 10-15 years. She is used to have a boss that puts her in an apartment in Poblado or Laureles 8 to 24 HR 5-6 days a week, in periods for 1-3 months. Or she has become independent and can manage that herself.
I told her that in Scandinavia she earns 10 times more working at Exito, than in Colombia. Which is more than she makes as a prepago in Medellin, all expenses included! And that is just a first time job to start with.
She said "ok", but meant; I don't work.
I think I will have a serious Skype conversation with her today. And look at Latineuro, a very underestimated site. A girl who never have been in touch with the prepago-world, would consider 5-7 million COP / month a Superdeal, and combine that with study language. And being younger, with an open mind and happy spirit! That is way better, but of course boring in the end.
My Super-prepagos would / will cause a lot of problems. It's just amazing, the thought, how much they could make and at the same time giving me awesome sex, her friends visiting etc.I'm wondering if you have ever met a woman. A woman thinks differently than a prepago who only has to be around while you are paying her.
A woman has goals. If that woman is a prepago, and agrees to something like that, her goal is money. You are only a tool that she can use to get that money. Especially if you are sending her to university, she will meet other tools and learn how to get more out of the tool she already has. If she gets sent back to Colombia, big deal. There's plenty of other tools who will buy a plane ticket.
There are people who do what you want. They are called pimps. They succeed because they behave like pimps. They control the girls, physically and emotionally, and send them back to wherever they found them if the girl doesn't produce. They don't marry them, or pay to educate them. To them the women are the tools.
If you have awesome sex with a prepago, it's because she is a prepago who wants to get your money. If she performs, she gets more of your money. That awesome sex does not last, when you are no longer paying her.
Pardon me, but you have this completely wrong. The prepago has nothing to lose. Her worst case is that she goes back to Colombia. She knows she is going back to Colombia. She might just go back sooner than she wants. She is thinking, if you bring her there, you will pay her and now she knows how much she expects you to pay her.
She will pay to bring her super hot friends over? No. She won't. You will pay. Every step of your dream, you will pay. You will pay, pay, pay and in the end you'll realize you did something incredibly stupid.
If you want to marry a super hot Colombian, find an estrato 5 or 6 girl, win over her family. Treat her nice, give her gifts, give little gifts to her mother, have long talks with her father. Convince them you can provide a great life for their daughter. Marry her, take her home and always treat her like a wife.
If you want to pimp Colombian girls in Scandinavia, start picking estrato 1 and 2 girls. Lie to them. Tell them they will make a lot of money. Choose one who you can dominate. Take her back and act like a pimp. Bring the others over on tourist visas. If they work hard and make good money, you bring them back each year.
You can't marry a prepago, have her still work as a prepago and expect her to treat you like a husband, and then expect her to bring her friends over so they can all treat you like a customer. You are either a husband, a customer or a pimp. You can't be all 3 at the same time.
You are ignoring the elephant in the room. The Flying Farang danger. As the poster below says, you are a tool. Once the tool no longer works, it gets thrown away. In Thailand, bar girls are very practical. They marry their rich foreign boyfriend "Farang" then once they find out what property he has, there is a big party in a high rise hotel or condo with lots of drinking, then the Farang "falls" or flies from the balcony. Leaving the grieving bargirl with inheriting all his money and house! Drink up, you need to start flapping your arms and working on your "flying" skills now!
I'm wondering if you have ever met a woman. A woman thinks differently than a prepago who only has to be around while you are paying her.
A woman has goals. If that woman is a prepago, and agrees to something like that, her goal is money. You are only a tool that she can use to get that money. Especially if you are sending her to university, she will meet other tools and learn how to get more out of the tool she already has. If she gets sent back to Colombia, big deal. There's plenty of other tools who will buy a plane ticket.
There are people who do what you want. They are called pimps. They succeed because they behave like pimps. They control the girls, physically and emotionally, and send them back to wherever they found them if the girl doesn't produce. They don't marry them, or pay to educate them. To them the women are the tools.
If you have awesome sex with a prepago, it's because she is a prepago who wants to get your money. If she performs, she gets more of your money. That awesome sex does not last, when you are no longer paying her.
Pardon me, but you have this completely wrong. The prepago has nothing to lose. Her worst case is that she goes back to Colombia. She knows she is going back to Colombia. She might just go back sooner than she wants. She is thinking, if you bring her there, you will pay her and now she knows how much she expects you to pay her..
Hasideas Tao
08-08-17, 17:06
In my opinion, the keys to successful lasting cooperation is that (1) all parties must have something invested. If one has nothing invested, (money, sweat, time) and if it's all just good times and parties, they have no motivation to continue once the party is over. I meet a lot of guys visiting Colombia. A lot! From all walks of life. The happiest ones know it's a vacation and about fun. The mistake is thinking the party is reality and that they can make it last forever. When it comes to working girls, unless you are prepared to take care of someone, like a lease on a car for life! (2) You need to find real genuine connections with people in order for a successful long term relationship. As tis written.... you can take the girl out of the street but you cant take the street out of the girl. (sometimes that can be a good thing i guess)
You are ignoring the elephant in the room. The Flying Farang danger. As the poster below says, you are a tool. Once the tool no longer works, it gets thrown away. In Thailand, bar girls are very practical. They marry their rich foreign boyfriend "Farang" then once they find out what property he has, there is a big party in a high rise hotel or condo with lots of drinking, then the Farang "falls" or flies from the balcony. Leaving the grieving bargirl with inheriting all his money and house! Drink up, you need to start flapping your arms and working on your "flying" skills now!
C Jack Sparrow
08-08-17, 20:13
You guys say some truth, but overstate the negative sides of of it. If all girls in Medellin had been Guapas, all had been prepagos. The Top Notch prepagos I focus on are experienced and know that once expelled from European Union, she is expelled for years, being a hot Colombian, I would say . for Life! The Flying Farang, a myth. He may marry a bar-girl, but put in a lot of restrictions into it. Like that his native US / Euro family get's all his assets, the bar-girl gets nada!
You must understand; the majority of the female student at the private Universities in Medellin, finance that with some sort of adult entertainment. If ugly, they have family, and ICETEX.
One girl from Bogota, student of "Social Communicacion", pays 6-8 million pesos per semester, how on earth does she get those kind of money?
All girls with an open mind, a family with double-moral-standards understand what is going on. The cost of the career programs are so expensive that some 30-50%, not less, get their money from; adult entertainment, money earned in places like Rio, Sanit marteen, Aruba, Miami, Las vegas, Hong Kong. , Madrid etc.
Or they can study at almost free from tuition CENA and SENSA. But that gives no net return. They work after some years in the same company as the former prepago girl with a degree from EAFIT. EAFIT girl is her boss and makes 2-3 M COP, and with opportunities and she tops at 1,5 M COP, without any opportunities.
So you can find good heart prepagos that will love you for life! And You can find a 5-6 estrato girl, already done that, been there, and she has no empathy at all.
I have had 2 serious GF 18-20 old (!) full of hormones, from Medellin and Dominican Rep. They did not care about age. They wanted a husband for life. The girl from DR was 19 and her 20yo model sister had married a Guapo gringo +50-55 yo, very good looking.. And she was already pregnant. And as her little sister, she saw me as a similar "tool". " I love you until you are 70", she said. Both are amazingly pretty girls! Guys that live in DR long-term can confirm that. Its like a white Anglo-Saxon blonde guy is a God. God and Tool! I dont mind being a tool, if I get what I want in return!
So, I thought, at 27/+30, my prepago use me as a tool, and I use her, but the point is to have 2 good incomes. Then you can afford a upper-class life. She understands that.
The major problem is becoming a Pure Tool, a Tool that only loosing money. Such a process can be stopped with heavy sanctions for the Prepago! I can work like a maniac for months and months and recover losses and get into the game -again and again , if so necessary.
The thing is loosing Medellin. Its heartbreaking for me! Sex-Prison with a girl from Medellin might have eased that pain, but , I realize, no. Medellin, or DR, or Brazil, or a new Venezuela - that is Life, our countries control the world in every aspect but the erotic one. Thats the price for a strictly focused society entering the age of narcissism.
Our Anglo-Saxon countries with bad climate and super-expensive living habits are based on sexual frustration. You can't fuck a nice prepago, but you can buy a a BMW, which is useless, it drops in value faster than a comet! While those GFE passages and moments with paisas are in your DNA!
Briffault's Law: The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.
There are a few corollaries I would add:
1. Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.
2. Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit (see corollary 1).
3. A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current / future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male (which is not bloody likely).
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1anu3q/briffaults_law/
You guys say some truth, but overstate the negative sides of of it. If all girls in Medellin had been Guapas, all had been prepagos. The Top Notch prepagos I focus on are experienced and know that once expelled from European Union, she is expelled for years, being a hot Colombian, I would say . for Life! The Flying Farang, a myth. He may marry a bar-girl, but put in a lot of restrictions into it. Like that his native US / Euro family get's all his assets, the bar-girl gets nada!
You must understand; the majority of the female student at the private Universities in Medellin, finance that with some sort of adult entertainment. If ugly, they have family, and ICETEX.
One girl from Bogota, student of "Social Communicacion", pays 6-8 million pesos per semester, how on earth does she get those kind of money?
All girls with an open mind, a family with double-moral-standards understand what is going on. The cost of the career programs are so expensive that some 30-50%, not less, get their money from; adult entertainment, money earned in places like Rio, Sanit marteen, Aruba, Miami, Las vegas, Hong Kong. , Madrid etc.
Way overdue report, regarding my virgin trip to Medellin.Wow. What a great virgin trip! I'm also heading out for my virgin trip, and have set up a date through ColombianCupid / WhatsApp. Working on a couple more. Hoping for ChikSika success! I noticed you hooked up with girls 19-27. Are you in your 30's or younger / older?
Guys,
Enlighten me please, why do you all bother with centro when you could just stay at Hotel M and have hot chicks IN your hotel so you don't have to look?
BigTimeFun
08-09-17, 00:08
What are the best options in that area 7 to 10 pm? Gracias amigos.
Hi,
I have a question. I think I went to the mansion. It is not on 'the map' so I went here: http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/location.html.
It looked like a hotel with a closed door and gate around it etc. I did not ring the bell and dared to ask (my Spanish sucks, I'm getting better but still suck at it).
The thing is, it is probably so obvious for everybody that info about it is hard to find (at least I can not find much about it).
Now is this the famous Mansion and can you go there as a non hotel guest?
If yes just ring the bell? And what time? And which of the two?
Thanks in advance!You have to stay in the hotel to enter. Girls hang out by the pool from 2 to 6 ish, then they go into the basement which is a small lounge / bar / dance floor. Girls are 200,000 pesos or 300,000 pesos for all night. There are plenty of 9's and always at least one 10.
You guys say some truth, but overstate the negative sides of of it. If all girls in Medellin had been Guapas, all had been prepagos. The Top Notch prepagos I focus on are experienced and know that once expelled from European Union, she is expelled for years, being a hot Colombian, I would say . for Life! The Flying Farang, a myth. He may marry a bar-girl, but put in a lot of restrictions into it. Like that his native US / Euro family get's all his assets, the bar-girl gets nada!
You must understand; the majority of the female student at the private Universities in Medellin, finance that with some sort of adult entertainment. If ugly, they have family, and ICETEX.
One girl from Bogota, student of "Social Communicacion", pays 6-8 million pesos per semester, how on earth does she get those kind of money?
All girls with an open mind, a family with double-moral-standards understand what is going on. The cost of the career programs are so expensive that some 30-50%, not less, get their money from; adult entertainment, money earned in places like Rio, Sanit marteen, Aruba, Miami, Las vegas, Hong Kong. , Madrid etc.
Or they can study at almost free from tuition CENA and SENSA. But that gives no net return. They work after some years in the same company as the former prepago girl with a degree from EAFIT. EAFIT girl is her boss and makes 2-3 M COP, and with opportunities and she tops at 1,5 M COP, without any opportunities.
So you can find good heart prepagos that will love you for life! And You can find a 5-6 estrato girl, already done that, been there, and she has no empathy at all.
I have had 2 serious GF 18-20 old (!) full of hormones, from Medellin and Dominican Rep. They did not care about age. They wanted a husband for life. The girl from DR was 19 and her 20yo model sister had married a Guapo gringo +50-55 yo, very good looking.. And she was already pregnant. And as her little sister, she saw me as a similar "tool". " I love you until you are 70", she said. Both are amazingly pretty girls! Guys that live in DR long-term can confirm that. Its like a white Anglo-Saxon blonde guy is a God. God and Tool! I dont mind being a tool, if I get what I want in return!
So, I thought, at 27/+30, my prepago use me as a tool, and I use her, but the point is to have 2 good incomes. Then you can afford a upper-class life. She understands that.
The major problem is becoming a Pure Tool, a Tool that only loosing money. Such a process can be stopped with heavy sanctions for the Prepago! I can work like a maniac for months and months and recover losses and get into the game -again and again , if so necessary.
The thing is loosing Medellin. Its heartbreaking for me! Sex-Prison with a girl from Medellin might have eased that pain, but , I realize, no. Medellin, or DR, or Brazil, or a new Venezuela - that is Life, our countries control the world in every aspect but the erotic one. Thats the price for a strictly focused society entering the age of narcissism.
Our Anglo-Saxon countries with bad climate and super-expensive living habits are based on sexual frustration. You can't fuck a nice prepago, but you can buy a a BMW, which is useless, it drops in value faster than a comet! While those GFE passages and moments with paisas are in your DNA!What you are talking about can be summed up as: You share with her by providing a house and access to a place where she can make more money, working as a prepago. She shares with you by helping to pay for the house, working as a prepago for free with you and sharing her earnings as a prepago with you.
1. You are already paying to live in your country. Her living there will not double the cost. So you are getting a benefit, while she is paying to be there.
2. Any time having sex with you, you are getting a benefit and she is losing money by not being with a paying customer.
3. If she pays to bring friends over, you are again, getting a free benefit, while they are all losing money by not being with paying customers. In addition, she has to worry you will replace her with one of her friends.
4. After 1 winter she will be happy to leave and never return.
The deal you want means you get all the benefits, she does all the work and has to pay you just to keep her from going back to Colombia, when she probably would rather be in Colombia.
Those girls going to the private universities, most are from upper class families who can afford the costs. Many others are going to Colombia's National University, which is free, but entrance standards are very high. Two of my friends were students there, two others were professors there. Most don't have to become a prepago to pay for university.
For the ones who need the money there is another option, which is becoming very popular, webcam. I know this, because these girls pay for me to live in Medellin. And they are constantly bringing more friends to become webcam models. We turn down 9 out of 10 who want to work with us.
In every country there are women who are "just doing this to pay for college. " Except half never went to college and most of the rest quit college, because they are not thinking about the future. The ones who are left, who will finish college and will use some sexual job to pay, are smart, focused and driven. They aren't going to settle for marriage to someone who needs to use their income to reach upper class. They have no need for an aging middle class foreigner. Certainly they don't need one that they are expected to support. They can get that at home with someone much more attractive.
Sunday, after the Flower Festival parade, I went home with one of my neighbors. She is exactly what you are looking for, except instead of a prepago, she is a webcam model. Her maid cooked us a nice dinner and we talked. This year, if the current trend continues, she will make about $400,000 USD. However, her income has been rising rapidly and in 6 to 9 months she could be on pace for $1 million USD per year. She travels when and where she wants, does what she wants, with who she wants and sees no reason to get married. If you offered your deal to her she would still be laughing 3 days after your Visa expired.
You can find plenty of young Colombians who will marry you, because 100,000 COP is a lot of money to them. You can find plenty of Colombians who will fuck you, because you are paying their price. You can even find plenty of Colombians who will work as a prepago for you, because they think it's an escape from poverty. But you're trying to find one that will marry you, fuck you, work as a prepago for you and pay you for the privilege. Good luck with that.
What are the best options in that area 7 to 10 pm? Gracias amigos.Probably the best option is Luna Lunera. Last I heard Abydos has closed down. Not certain what else is close and open at night.
No ones got the taste to give you kudos but I do. That is one of the hottest pics in the history of ISG. Well done!
How about posting a few more of these 3 in the PG? I'm guessing it gets better w / those sexy chicas.
Thanks much for posting the pic.
Good call, Luna Lunera is reliable. It's true Abydos is done.
Probably the best option is Luna Lunera. Last I heard Abydos has closed down. Not certain what else is close and open at night.
Guys,
Enlighten me please, why do you all bother with centro when you could just stay at Hotel M and have hot chicks IN your hotel so you don't have to look?Bigger selection, cheaper prices? Between the strip clubs, street girls and Casa's there must be 300+ Starting at 30 k or $10.
And I take them to my hotel if I want. Which is $26 a night, 15 stories with a beautiful view of the city at night.
BigTimeFun
08-09-17, 06:19
Probably the best option is Luna Lunera. Last I heard Abydos has closed down. Not certain what else is close and open at night.Went to Luna Lunera about 8 pm. Very nice. About 10 to 12 chicas. Only 2 or 3 customers. Mia was nice but not a repeat for me. May be grest for someone else. "YMMV". I will return tomorrow in the afternoon. Cudos to World 69 for the great map. Medellion is great.
First time in MDE. I will be coming back.
I'm a youthful and athletic soon to be 50 year old.
That's the beauty of Colombia.
Wow. What a great virgin trip! I'm also heading out for my virgin trip, and have set up a date through ColombianCupid / WhatsApp. Working on a couple more. Hoping for ChikSika success! I noticed you hooked up with girls 19-27. Are you in your 30's or younger / older?
El Mechanico
08-09-17, 13:11
You have to stay in the hotel to enter. Girls hang out by the pool from 2 to 6 ish, then they go into the basement which is a small lounge / bar / dance floor. Girls are 200,000 pesos or 300,000 pesos for all night. There are plenty of 9's and always at least one 10.I think you can pay 50 k COP if you are not a guest. Just call the reception and ask. They all speak excellent english. The most I have ever paid there was 200 K COP. The standard rate was 150 k COP. Have they gone up?
El Mechanico.
Bigger selection, cheaper prices? Between the strip clubs, street girls and Casa's there must be 300+ Starting at 30 k or $10.
And I take them to my hotel if I want. Which is $26 a night, 15 stories with a beautiful view of the city at night.And I'd put them at mostly 8's with the possibility of a 9.
Or to put it another way, why would you go to the beach when you can stay in a hotel with a swimming pool?
Some people should stay at the Mansion. If you speak no Spanish and aren't willing to learn a little, stay there. If you are worried about speaking to taxi drivers who speak no English, go there. If you need a wingman and can't find one, if you're worried about trying something new or afraid to walk a few blocks alone, go there. If you don't mind paying triple rates for a cheap hotel room, go there.
I stayed for 2 nights in their cheapest room, which would have been fine except it has no bathroom. The bathroom is about 40 yards away, down several, unlighted stairs, past the pool. Not the best situation for any drunk, old gringos with bladder problems. The bar is nice, but rather basic. The other guests are nice, you can probably find someone to socialize with. The hotel staff was nice. I would consider another 2 day stay some day, in a different room.
But, I already have a home. It's much nicer than any Mansion room, except no Jacuzzi in the apartment. I pay about what 3 nights in a good Mansion room would cost per month. If I want to pay Mansion prices, for less than a dollar and 2 short walks I can usually find a better selection at Energy in a better room. If I want something quicker and cheaper, New Life is waiting, plus all the other Centro casas and clubs. Haven't felt the urge to pull off the street yet, but the option is there for anyone who wants it.
From the Mansion you're a short walk from several excellent restaurants where you can pay 22 k to 40 k for a good meal. There's even a nearby Burger King, Papa John's and McDonald's. A taxi will take you to Parque Lleras, with many more good restaurants. Someone from the Mansion will direct you to both areas.
If you stay almost anywhere else, you can find great local food for 7 k to 15 k. Maybe a few Mansion guests can direct you to such places.
If your Spanish is very weak, if you're on your first visit, if you're not feeling adventurous, the Mansion is great for you. If you come back a few times per year, why would you continue to stay there?
El Mechanico
08-09-17, 15:18
If your Spanish is very weak, if you're on your first visit, if you're not feeling adventurous, the Mansion is great for you. If you come back a few times per year, why would you continue to stay there?I agree 100%. My first 2 trips to the MDE, I stayed at the Mansion & loved it. I feel I have outgrown it, not by anything the Mansion or the chicas have done, but for 3 other reasons. Some of the regulars guests are simply tools & I don't care to be around them, the nightly rates are quite high compared to other options & the little bartender en la Cueva started bitching at me at the 4th of July party, 2016 for no reason. Then every time I went to la cueva she had a scowl on her face and it was a chore & a struggle for her to get me a beer, on my July & December visit. Time to branch out!
El Mechanico.
C Jack Sparrow
08-09-17, 15:40
What you are talking about can be summed up as: You share with her by providing a house and access to a place where she can make more money, working as a prepago. She shares with you by helping to pay for the house, working as a prepago for free with you and sharing her earnings as a prepago with you.
1. You are already paying to live in your country. Her living there will not double the cost. So you are getting a benefit, while she is paying to be there.
2. Any time having sex with you, you are getting a benefit and she is losing money by not being with a paying customer.
3. If she pays to bring friends over, you are again, getting a free benefit, while they are all losing money by not being with paying customers. In addition, she has to worry you will replace her with one of her friends.
4. After 1 winter she will be happy to leave and never return..She keeps her income from her own work, she just pays 50% of our living expenses.
75% of the population is poor in Colombia. Of course you wonder how girls that don't work can pay for the many private Universities. Working at minimum wage does only give the most basic needs.
Webcam. 400.000 USD ending on 1 M USD. Well, I have been there and a private show for 10 minutes cost for than an hour or real sex at New Life, 15 minutes a get a girl from Paisasdivinas or MasajistasPaisas. Maybe 10 girl have good money out of 10.000 webcam girls from Colombia. I tried it, being curious, but it is just a very expensive rip-off.
Dream; your model makes 1 M USD, and that is kind of normal? I would say a sexy model can reach 1000 USD / months, except a few stars.
On forums, and webcam ads. They state that a successfull model can make 10.000 USD / month. And how many are they?
99% get to see what they want on MFC and jerk off- for free. Or use free porn.
Even pornstars like Abella Anderson or Julieth (or another name, the brunette with big natural boobs and ass and a angelical face from Culioneros are BORED TO DEATH, since webcam-modelling is so damn slow.
Webcam exist since rich guys pays the very hot girls good money, but this is 1% of the models. And it is maybe 100.000 USD tops for the Miss MFC / year, if she work on a daily basis.
Many girls earns a few USD now and then, and some can make a normal living from it.
But it is artificial. I mean real sex. I mean a real marriage.
My paisa friends does not want to work as webcam models. I understand why! They are Dildo-ing, sitting in a room playing with a dildo all day long, it seems so boring, and one of my friends said, she could do it only for 3 hours a day. A famous prepago here on ISG says that her clients comes after 5-10 minutes, while paying for an full hour! Just like Paulo Cuelho describes it in his novel "11 minutes".
A survey showed that 33% of the female student sell sex in order to pay for their University career. 25% have parents with good incomes. But even they, if hot, have rich friends, Colombian or extranjeros, that help them to buy all the things a Guapa needs in terms of fashion etc.
And just search on a webcam models name, and you get her private shows for free at XVideos or Pornhub.
They are showing fake numbers on how much they have earned in order to think that they are stars and you are nothing, just like you use the same tactic against me!
Why would girls even enter porn or / and escort if they just can sit with a dildo at home and make 1 M USD / year.
I agree 100%. My first 2 trips to the MDE, I stayed at the Mansion & loved it. I feel I have outgrown it, not by anything the Mansion or the chicas have done, but for 3 other reasons. Some of the regulars guests are simply tools & I don't care to be around them, the nightly rates are quite high compared to other options & the little bartender en la Cueva started bitching at me at the 4th of July party, 2016 for no reason. Then every time I went to la cueva she had a scowl on her face and it was a chore & a struggle for her to get me a beer, on my July & December visit. Time to branch out!
El Mechanico.Funny you mention that bartender at the Cueva.
Went to the Mansion last night to visit Robert, the owner, who unfortunately wasn't there.
When I asked the bartender if he was there or coming tonite, she was just a condescending beeeatch.
Was debating whether to complain about her or not, but I probably won't, she's just been pampered by the gringo crowd at the Mansion vying for her attention.
When I left 15 minutes later, she was sitting on the couch holding hands with a guy, who gave me a smug look like, look what I've got.
She's all yours buddy.
No thanks.
So a while back that I went to Medellin I meet with a semi pro from Parque Lleras and befriended her, we had intercouse when I was there, met even her family and she was a good side chick to screw on my trips there. We of course kept contacted once I returned to the states, we would talk through wassapp, we would send each other nudes and we would actually do video calls touching ourselves in exchange of me sending her mobile recharge and sending her money, well time past and I mean I got bored of her plus I have my GF here in the states, I told her this and she was not at all happy about this, as she knows the money transfers and the mobile recharge will disappear. I guess she screenshotted a conversation we had where she said good morning how you feeling and I sent her like 6 dick pics telling her I had a morning wood and she said that was unsolicited and that she wants to charge me for acoso sexual (even though I have conversations as well where she is sending me nudes and saying things of sexual nature.) She is right now extortionate me saying she wants a million pesos so she won't charge me, which I am actually going to do since a million pesos is not so a lot for me but regardless the problem would be if she is to still persist with this after sending her that amount and if I could actually be in trouble for it. Important info: she is over age, she is of a poor background I do see it hard for her to have access to an attorney and be persistent on it, obviously I am in a totally different country as well, I don't care if I get a travel ban to Colombia but I do not want to be arrested for having sexual conversations on the phone with a hooker. Like I said I really don't know how this would work if she were to hypothetically sue me if I can get into some serious trouble for sexual harassment (women always have an advantage in these type of things). She said that she already investigated and I can get into some serious trouble but I think she is just bluffing and wanting to rob me off the million of pesos and perhaps even more money afterwards if she were to not let this go.
It's quick and cheap to grab an uber from Centro to upper scale restaurants, bars, and clubs in Laureles. You spelled it out very well. I was a little confused by the original post. If I were happy in the gringo hotel I would just stay there and not worry about or question what goes on in Centro and why so many of us hang out there.
And I'd put them at mostly 8's with the possibility of a 9.
Or to put it another way, why would you go to the beach when you can stay in a hotel with a swimming pool?
Some people should stay at the Mansion. If you speak no Spanish and aren't willing to learn a little, stay there. If you are worried about speaking to taxi drivers who speak no English, go there. If you need a wingman and can't find one, if you're worried about trying something new or afraid to walk a few blocks alone, go there. If you don't mind paying triple rates for a cheap hotel room, go there.
I stayed for 2 nights in their cheapest room, which would have been fine except it has no bathroom. The bathroom is about 40 yards away, down several, unlighted stairs, past the pool. Not the best situation for any drunk, old gringos with bladder problems. The bar is nice, but rather basic. The other guests are nice, you can probably find someone to socialize with. The hotel staff was nice. I would consider another 2 day stay some day, in a different room..
You have to stay in the hotel to enter. Girls hang out by the pool from 2 to 6 ish, then they go into the basement which is a small lounge / bar / dance floor. Girls are 200,000 pesos or 300,000 pesos for all night. There are plenty of 9's and always at least one 10.200,000 short time? Don't be a sucker! You are grossly overpaying. Most (except the spoiled princesses) will happily accept 150 k.
9's and at least one 10 at the Mansion? We must have a different scoring system. I have never seen a 9 there in 3 trips.
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9's and at least one 10 at the Mansion? We must have a different scoring system. I have never seen a 9 there in 3 trips.We all have different scoring systems.
One man's 9 or 10, may be a 7 to you, and vice versa.
Obviously.
... I guess she screenshotted a conversation we had where she said good morning how you feeling and I sent her like 6 dick pics telling her I had a morning wood and she said that was unsolicited and that she wants to charge me for acoso sexual (even though I have conversations as well where she is sending me nudes and saying things of sexual nature.) She is right now extortionate me saying she wants a million pesos so she won't charge me, which I am actually going to do since a million pesos is not so a lot for me but regardless the problem would be if she is to still persist with this after sending her that amount and if I could actually be in trouble for it. Important info: she is over age, she is of a poor background I do see it hard for her to have access to an attorney and be persistent on it, obviously I am in a totally different country as well, I don't care if I get a travel ban to Colombia but I do not want to be arrested for having sexual conversations on the phone with a hooker. Like I said I really don't know how this would work if she were to hypothetically sue me if I can get into some serious trouble for sexual harassment (women always have an advantage in these type of things). She said that she already investigated and I can get into some serious trouble but I think she is just bluffing and wanting to rob me off the million of pesos and perhaps even more money afterwards if she were to not let this go.She knows you have money, cause you've been sending it to her.
A million pesos is not a lot for any of us here, however, it will never stop at the million pesos, she's an extortionist.
I would tell her exactly that, that she's an extortionist, and that you've already contracted a lawyer in Colombia who's talking with the authorities about her extortion activity.
Do guys actually send dick pics like that?
Crazy stuff.
A fool and their money are soon parted. I wouldn't even worry about it. End of story!
So a while back that I went to Medellin I meet with a semi pro from Parque Lleras and befriended her, we had intercouse when I was there, met even her family and she was a good side chick to screw on my trips there. We of course kept contacted once I returned to the states, we would talk through wassapp, we would send each other nudes and we would actually do video calls touching ourselves in exchange of me sending her mobile recharge and sending her money, well time past and I mean I got bored of her plus I have my GF here in the states, I told her this and she was not at all happy about this, as she knows the money transfers and the mobile recharge will disappear. I guess she screenshotted a conversation we had where she said good morning how you feeling and I sent her like 6 dick pics telling her I had a morning wood and she said that was unsolicited and that she wants to charge me for acoso sexual (even though I have conversations as well where she is sending me nudes and saying things of sexual nature.) She is right now extortionate me saying she wants a million pesos so she won't charge me, which I am actually going to do since a million pesos is not so a lot for me but regardless the problem would be if she is to still persist with this after sending her that amount and if I could actually be in trouble for it. Important info: she is over age, she is of a poor background I do see it hard for her to have access to an attorney and be persistent on it, obviously I am in a totally different country as well, I don't care if I get a travel ban to Colombia but I do not want to be arrested for having sexual conversations on the phone with a hooker. Like I said I really don't know how this would work if she were to hypothetically sue me if I can get into some serious trouble for sexual harassment (women always have an advantage in these type of things). She said that she already investigated and I can get into some serious trouble but I think she is just bluffing and wanting to rob me off the million of pesos and perhaps even more money afterwards if she were to not let this go.
I think you can pay 50 k COP if you are not a guest. Just call the reception and ask. They all speak excellent english. The most I have ever paid there was 200 K COP. The standard rate was 150 k COP. Have they gone up?
El Mechanico.Yeah, 200 k now, 300 k for all night. Not bad with the current exchange rate flirting with 3000.
Bigger selection, cheaper prices? Between the strip clubs, street girls and Casa's there must be 300+ Starting at 30 k or $10.
And I take them to my hotel if I want. Which is $26 a night, 15 stories with a beautiful view of the city at night.But how do they look?
And I'd put them at mostly 8's with the possibility of a 9.
Or to put it another way, why would you go to the beach when you can stay in a hotel with a swimming pool?
Some people should stay at the Mansion. If you speak no Spanish and aren't willing to learn a little, stay there. If you are worried about speaking to taxi drivers who speak no English, go there. If you need a wingman and can't find one, if you're worried about trying something new or afraid to walk a few blocks alone, go there. If you don't mind paying triple rates for a cheap hotel room, go there.
I stayed for 2 nights in their cheapest room, which would have been fine except it has no bathroom. The bathroom is about 40 yards away, down several, unlighted stairs, past the pool. Not the best situation for any drunk, old gringos with bladder problems. The bar is nice, but rather basic. The other guests are nice, you can probably find someone to socialize with. The hotel staff was nice. I would consider another 2 day stay some day, in a different room.I thought I had to stay to enter, now I feel like an ass. Although I love the convenience and didn't know any better on prices.
We all have different scoring systems.
One man's 9 or 10, may be a 7 to you, and vice versa.
Obviously.Here! Hear!
But I am surprised someone could not find their dream girl in 3 trips to the Mansion, sounds almost like a lie.
So a while back that I went to Medellin I meet with a semi pro from Parque Lleras and befriended her, we had intercouse when I was there, met even her family and she was a good side chick to screw on my trips there. We of course kept contacted once I returned to the states, we would talk through wassapp, we would send each other nudes and we would actually do video calls touching ourselves in exchange of me sending her mobile recharge and sending her money, well time past and I mean I got bored of her plus I have my GF here in the states, I told her this and she was not at all happy about this, as she knows the money transfers and the mobile recharge will disappear. I guess she screenshotted a conversation we had where she said good morning how you feeling and I sent her like 6 dick pics telling her I had a morning wood and she said that was unsolicited and that she wants to charge me for acoso sexual (even though I have conversations as well where she is sending me nudes and saying things of sexual nature.) She is right now extortionate me saying she wants a million pesos so she won't charge me, which I am actually going to do since a million pesos is not so a lot for me but regardless the problem would be if she is to still persist with this after sending her that amount and if I could actually be in trouble for it. Important info: she is over age, she is of a poor background I do see it hard for her to have access to an attorney and be persistent on it, obviously I am in a totally different country as well, I don't care if I get a travel ban to Colombia but I do not want to be arrested for having sexual conversations on the phone with a hooker. Like I said I really don't know how this would work if she were to hypothetically sue me if I can get into some serious trouble for sexual harassment (women always have an advantage in these type of things). She said that she already investigated and I can get into some serious trouble but I think she is just bluffing and wanting to rob me off the million of pesos and perhaps even more money afterwards if she were to not let this go.You are in the states and she is in Colombia? Bro! Are you a fool? She can't touch you. [Deleted by Admin]
200,000 short time? Don't be a sucker! You are grossly overpaying. Most (except the spoiled princesses) will happily accept 150 k.
9's and at least one 10 at the Mansion? We must have a different scoring system. I have never seen a 9 there in 3 trips.Grossly overpaying? 50 k pesos equals $16 at today's rate of 3002 pesos, I wouldn't say it's "Grossly" overpaying. Definitely overpaying though. I thought the price was set by the guys anyway.
So a while back that I went to Medellin I meet with a semi pro from Parque Lleras and befriended her, we had intercouse when I was there, met even her family and she was a good side chick to screw on my trips there. We of course kept contacted once I returned to the states, we would talk through wassapp, we would send each other nudes and we would actually do video calls touching ourselves in exchange of me sending her mobile recharge and sending her money, well time past and I mean I got bored of her plus I have my GF here in the states, I told her this and she was not at all happy about this, as she knows the money transfers and the mobile recharge will disappear. I guess she screenshotted a conversation we had where she said good morning how you feeling and I sent her like 6 dick pics telling her I had a morning wood and she said that was unsolicited and that she wants to charge me for acoso sexual (even though I have conversations as well where she is sending me nudes and saying things of sexual nature.) She is right now extortionate me saying she wants a million pesos so she won't charge me, which I am actually going to do since a million pesos is not so a lot for me but regardless the problem would be if she is to still persist with this after sending her that amount and if I could actually be in trouble for it. Important info: she is over age, she is of a poor background I do see it hard for her to have access to an attorney and be persistent on it, obviously I am in a totally different country as well, I don't care if I get a travel ban to Colombia but I do not want to be arrested for having sexual conversations on the phone with a hooker. Like I said I really don't know how this would work if she were to hypothetically sue me if I can get into some serious trouble for sexual harassment (women always have an advantage in these type of things). She said that she already investigated and I can get into some serious trouble but I think she is just bluffing and wanting to rob me off the million of pesos and perhaps even more money afterwards if she were to not let this go.This is ONLY my opinion, but as long as you don't go to Colombia, they can't touch you for something like this. This is not murder afterall. Now, if that is really against the law, and she goes to the cops and makes a report (she doesn't need to know a lawyer or judge, just go to the cops), and you enter Colombia, you would be flagged and arrested.
Basically, if I were you, I'd contact an attorney in Medellin and ask about the law in reference to what she is saying. Most likely it's a bluff, but who knows. If she sees that you aren't falling for this, she's liable to go tell them that you raped her. While you may not get long-term jail sentence, but would probably spend some time in preventative detention until trial, and you'd spend thousands and thousands to defend yourself. Either way, I would forget about Colombia forever.
As for the extortion, you must know that she will continue to ask for more and more. It will never stop, that's how extortion works.
So a while back that I went to Medellin I meet with a semi pro from Parque Lleras and befriended her, we had intercouse when I was there, met even her family and she was a good side chick to screw on my trips there. We of course kept contacted once I returned to the states, we would talk through wassapp, we would send each other nudes and we would actually do video calls touching ourselves in exchange of me sending her mobile recharge and sending her money, well time past and I mean I got bored of her plus I have my GF here in the states, I told her this and she was not at all happy about this, as she knows the money transfers and the mobile recharge will disappear. I guess she screenshotted a conversation we had where she said good morning how you feeling and I sent her like 6 dick pics telling her I had a morning wood and she said that was unsolicited and that she wants to charge me for acoso sexual (even though I have conversations as well where she is sending me nudes and saying things of sexual nature.) She is right now extortionate me saying she wants a million pesos so she won't charge me, which I am actually going to do since a million pesos is not so a lot for me but regardless the problem would be if she is to still persist with this after sending her that amount and if I could actually be in trouble for it. Important info: she is over age, she is of a poor background I do see it hard for her to have access to an attorney and be persistent on it, obviously I am in a totally different country as well, I don't care if I get a travel ban to Colombia but I do not want to be arrested for having sexual conversations on the phone with a hooker. Like I said I really don't know how this would work if she were to hypothetically sue me if I can get into some serious trouble for sexual harassment (women always have an advantage in these type of things). She said that she already investigated and I can get into some serious trouble but I think she is just bluffing and wanting to rob me off the million of pesos and perhaps even more money afterwards if she were to not let this go.Stop any contact with her, eliminate her from all your contacts, don't answer to any of her mails. After a while she will leave it. Don't worry, she can't do absolutely nothing. A mad ex girlfriend is not an international legal matter
It's quick and cheap to grab an uber from Centro to upper scale restaurants, bars, and clubs in Laureles. You spelled it out very well. I was a little confused by the original post. If I were happy in the gringo hotel I would just stay there and not worry about or question what goes on in Centro and why so many of us hang out there.I feel like I'm missing something and if there are 9's to be had for $10 then I have been missing something. I'm going down Sept. 19th so I will definitely check it out this time. Been to Medellin about 5 times and never went. Is it like Santa Fe in Bogota?
I agree 100%. My first 2 trips to the MDE, I stayed at the Mansion & loved it. I feel I have outgrown it, not by anything the Mansion or the chicas have done, but for 3 other reasons. Some of the regulars guests are simply tools & I don't care to be around them, the nightly rates are quite high compared to other options & the little bartender en la Cueva started bitching at me at the 4th of July party, 2016 for no reason. Then every time I went to la cueva she had a scowl on her face and it was a chore & a struggle for her to get me a beer, on my July & December visit. Time to branch out!
El Mechanico.There are some tools there.
Stop any contact with her, eliminate her from all your contacts, don't answer to any of her mails. After a while she will leave it. Don't worry, she can't do absolutely nothing. A mad ex girlfriend is not an international legal matterOne other piece of advice, keep your pecker in your pants unless you are ready to use it for its intended purpose, and posing for pictures is not an intended purpose.
Mr Enternational
08-10-17, 04:27
She knows you have money, cause you've been sending it to her.
A million pesos is not a lot for any of us here, however, it will never stop at the million pesos,.1 million pesos? Shiiieeeettt. My next step would be to send her a picture of Deeez Nuttts.
Extortion is illegal in Colombia. Demanding money in exchange for not swearing out a complaint is extortion. If there is a verified message from the girl to that effect she would have some exposure. If there are also any messages indicating mutual consent for exchanging lewd photographs that would discourage law enforcement involvement.
This is a reminder to me to not start doing something I never considered doing. Publishing nude photographs of myself.
This is ONLY my opinion, but as long as you don't go to Colombia, they can't touch you for something like this. This is not murder afterall. Now, if that is really against the law, and she goes to the cops and makes a report (she doesn't need to know a lawyer or judge, just go to the cops), and you enter Colombia, you would be flagged and arrested.
Basically, if I were you, I'd contact an attorney in Medellin and ask about the law in reference to what she is saying. Most likely it's a bluff, but who knows. If she sees that you aren't falling for this, she's liable to go tell them that you raped her. While you may not get long-term jail sentence, but would probably spend some time in preventative detention until trial, and you'd spend thousands and thousands to defend yourself. Either way, I would forget about Colombia forever.
As for the extortion, you must know that she will continue to ask for more and more. It will never stop, that's how extortion works.
YippieKayay
08-10-17, 07:14
I told her this and she was not at all happy about this, as she knows the money transfers and the mobile recharge will disappear. I guess she screenshotted a conversation we had where she said good morning how you feeling and I sent her like 6 dick pics telling her I had a morning wood and she said that was unsolicited and that she wants to charge me for acoso sexual (even though I have conversations as well where she is sending me nudes and saying things of sexual nature.) Damn. Years ago when I first started hobbying in Latin America I seem to recall this chica wanting me to show her my pecker on webcam. I refused but on one occasion pretended like I was about to. I immediately noticed she was going to screenshot the exchange. Just the way she moved like a predator toward the screen with her hands on the keyboard. I was too smart to fall for it.
Don't send shit. The more you send the more empowered she will feel. Stay away for a year and move on. Hopefully you didn't send her full body pics with your face.
One other piece of advice, keep your pecker in your pants unless you are ready to use it for its intended purpose, and posing for pictures is not an intended purpose.Very good advice!
Pipe Layer99
08-10-17, 13:29
... My first 2 trips to the MDE, I stayed at the Mansion & loved it. I feel I have outgrown it, not by anything the Mansion or the chicas have done, but for 3 other reasons. Some of the regulars guests are simply tools & I don't care to be around them, the nightly rates are quite high compared to other options & the little bartender en la Cueva started bitching at me at the 4th of July party, 2016 for no reason. Then every time I went to la cueva she had a scowl on her face and it was a chore & a struggle for her to get me a beer, on my July & December visit. Time to branch out! El Mechanico.I felt exactly the same way as you. First two times it was cool to check the scene and learn your way around. After that, much better options elsewhere, meaning the room rates are too high. You can find a hotel for $50 usd a night with breakfast included. Or get and Airbnb apt. The same goes for the girls, more options outside of the. And I also despise that ignorant bartender. A guy I met on my first visit was also there on my 2nd visit. He was having a party at the cueva that night and he personally invited me. He said all the rum and whiskey is already paid for just show up. I show up and the bottles and mixers were all on the bar for self-service. So I pour myself a drink and go join the party. I went back for another drink and that idiot bartender tried to tell me the alcohol was for the girls. I said WHAT? This is Johnnie's (not his real name, I just made this name up) party and he paid for everything already. She had that same nasty look on her face. I poured my drink and went over to the guy and brought him to bar. Then, in from of that beotch, I ask him if he paid for all the drinks. He said YES, you can have whatever you like! I told Robert about her. And I know Robert from my home town, because he worked with my brother for a few years before moving to Medellin. I seriously don't know why he keeps her around.
Pipe Layer99
08-10-17, 13:38
Funny you mention that bartender at the Cueva. Went to the Mansion last night to visit Robert, the owner, who unfortunately wasn't there.
When I asked the bartender if he was there or coming tonite, she was just a condescending beeeatch. Was debating whether to complain about her or not, but I probably won't, she's just been pampered by the gringo crowd at the Mansion vying for her attention....Let him know your opinion. If more guys complain and state their dislike and the reason, it might help the situation. But if you don't say anything, it's sure to continue.
Pipe Layer99
08-10-17, 13:56
This is ONLY my opinion, but as long as you don't go to Colombia, they can't touch you for something like this. This is not murder afterall. Now, if that is really against the law, and she goes to the cops and makes a report (she doesn't need to know a lawyer or judge, just go to the cops), and you enter Colombia, you would be flagged and arrested.
Basically, if I were you, I'd contact an attorney in Medellin and ask about the law in reference to what she is saying. Most likely it's a bluff, but who knows. If she sees that you aren't falling for this, she's liable to go tell them that you raped her. While you may not get long-term jail sentence, but would probably spend some time in preventative detention until trial, and you'd spend thousands and thousands to defend yourself. Either way, I would forget about Colombia forever.
As for the extortion, you must know that she will continue to ask for more and more. It will never stop, that's how extortion works.Exactly. I wouldn't send her anything. Cut off ALL communication with her and block her. If she got any money from you, do you think she will stop? Don't send her any money.
What you can do is send her the photos you have of her with her sexual comments! Then block her.
El Mechanico
08-10-17, 14:47
So a while back that I went to Medellin I meet with a semi pro from Parque Lleras and befriended her, we had intercouse when I was there, met even her family and she was a good side chick to screw on my trips there. We of course kept contacted once I returned to the states, we would talk through wassapp, we would send each other nudes and we would actually do video calls touching ourselves in exchange of me sending her mobile recharge and sending her money, well time past and I mean I got bored of her plus I have my GF here in the states, I told her this and she was not at all happy about this, as she knows the money transfers and the mobile recharge will disappear. I guess she screenshotted a conversation we had where she said good morning how you feeling and I sent her like 6 dick pics telling her I had a morning wood and she said that was unsolicited and that she wants to charge me for acoso sexual (even though I have conversations as well where she is sending me nudes and saying things of sexual nature.) She is right now extortionate me saying she wants a million pesos so she won't charge me, which I am actually going to do since a million pesos is not so a lot for me but regardless the problem would be if she is to still persist with this after sending her that amount and if I could actually be in trouble for it. Important info: she is over age, she is of a poor background I do see it hard for her to have access to an attorney and be persistent on it, obviously I am in a totally different country as well, I don't care if I get a travel ban to Colombia but I do not want to be arrested for having sexual conversations on the phone with a hooker. Like I said I really don't know how this would work if she were to hypothetically sue me if I can get into some serious trouble for sexual harassment (women always have an advantage in these type of things). She said that she already investigated and I can get into some serious trouble but I think she is just bluffing and wanting to rob me off the million of pesos and perhaps even more money afterwards if she were to not let this go.[Deleted by Admin]I think the authorities have more important issues to tend to than a little sexting. Keep all of the pics she sent you & tell her you will sue her & your lawyer will contact the authorities in her barrio & will have her arrested for the same thing as well as extortion. You probably won't hear from her again after that. If you pay her the million COP, don't expect that to be the last request!
El Mechanico.
So after a whole day of massive panicking about this subject but talking it through with close friends and even a lawyer I came.
To the decision of all blocked communications in whatsapp and social media, and as you guys suggested I did not send her a single dime. I was thinking it through and there are two most probable things she is going to do with that money a) most likely buy drugs b) or perhaps use that money to contact a prosecuting attorney. Now there is a problem, I won't hear from her probably unless she tries to contact me through another phone in which I will immediately block, but now I am wondering if what Queen35 said is true, where out of spite she were to go and contact the authorities and even where to go and exaggerate and make up lies like saying I raped her or something like that and that puts me in a criminal list where I would be flagged if I ever where to go back to Colombia. Again the only reason why I am concern is because she is the Colombian variation of ghetto trash biotch. She is addicted to cocaine, emotionally unstable, resides in the piece of shit neighborhood of San Javier, and her ex husband the father of her 4 yr old child is a criminal and is actually incarcerated for homicide. I only knew of these details once I got to know her better, it's not like I knew the girl and her background when I found her in parque lleras in the club above the medellin beer factory LOL. But yeah, all around it would suck not knowing if she actually contacted the authorities and not knowing whether I can go to Colombia or not. I mean don't get me wrong, its definately not the worst outcome, when she first threatened me I panicked like a little biotch and thought that homeland security was going to knock on my door and extradite my ass to Colombia for sending a a low life working girl dick pics LOL no joke I was scared shitless. But being uncertain of being able to go to Colombia or not sure is going to suck ass, I have mongered in a few latin american countries, DR, Mexico, Central America and Colombia, Colombia is sure the best for me (sorry if this will sound a little racist, but it is my taste and preference for women) because a lot of women are more caucasian and more European looking. Mexico and almost all Central America minus Costa Rica women tend to look too indigenous, and DR had a lot of dark and brown skinned women. Not to mention Costa Rica is more expensive than Colombia, you can find very attractive whitish girls in el centro de medellin or in barrio santa fe in Bogota charging $15-$20 USD and Costa Rica is more than 3 x that amount for someone remotely close as sexy. So yeah definitely it would suck ass to never be able to travel to Colombia again because of a ghetto biotch. Any domain or public website where one can check people who are in the wanted list in Colombia or its flagged? LOL.
I feel like I'm missing something and if there are 9's to be had for $10 then I have been missing something. I'm going down Sept. 19th so I will definitely check it out this time. Been to Medellin about 5 times and never went. Is it like Santa Fe in Bogota?Well the street girls are more likely to be 7 & 8's but the strip clubs like Conejitas and Barre Ejecutiva will have the occasional 8 or 9.
These were all $10 street girls:
So after a whole day of massive panicking about this subject but talking it through with close friends and even a lawyer I came.
To the decision of all blocked communications in whatsapp and social media, and as you guys suggested I did not send her a single dime. I was thinking it through and there are two most probable things she is going to do with that money a) most likely buy drugs b) or perhaps use that money to contact a prosecuting attorney. Now there is a problem, I won't hear from her probably unless she tries to contact me through another phone in which I will immediately block, but now I am wondering if what Queen35 said is true, where out of spite she were to go and contact the authorities and even where to go and exaggerate and make up lies like saying I raped her or something like that and that puts me in a criminal list where I would be flagged if I ever where to go back to Colombia. Again the only reason why I am concern is because she is the Colombian variation of ghetto trash biotch. She is addicted to cocaine, emotionally unstable, resides in the piece of shit neighborhood of San Javier, and her ex husband the father of her 4 yr old child is a criminal and is actually incarcerated for homicide. I only knew of these details once I got to know her better, it's not like I knew the girl and her background when I found her in parque lleras in the club above the medellin beer factory LOL. But yeah, all around it would suck not knowing if she actually contacted the authorities and not knowing whether I can go to Colombia or not..Right now there is probably a SWAT team preparing to raid your home, hogtie you and transport you to Colombia to pay for your crimes. Probably 40 years of hard labor waiting on you.
Get a grip on yourself. The Colombian National Police and Immigration are going to waste time and money coming after a gringo over dick pics? Some estrato 2 puta is going to spend her day in a police station filling out reports, answering questions and having her phone searched? Some lawyer is going to waste time with her for free, waste more time making a case, all in the hopes of splitting a few million pesos, when they have no way to enforce any judgment? Now click your heels together 3 times and say "there's no place like home. ".
The only thing you have to worry about if you return to Colombia is running into the crazy *****.
Some 'semi' pro that one turned out to be.
YippieKayay
08-11-17, 01:57
But being uncertain of being able to go to Colombia or not sure is going to suck ass, I have mongered in a few latin american countries, DR, Mexico, Central America and Colombia, Colombia is sure the best for me (sorry if this will sound a little racist, but it is my taste and preference for women) because a lot of women are more caucasian and more European looking.Try Sao Paulo, Brazil. Lots of blancas, if you are into that. It is more expensive in general but I have found pussy for 150 reals which is in or around 150 k Colombian. Won't touch the places lower than that because honestly not worth it. They have tons of nightclubs that are filled with hookers and have rooms on the premises. Also plenty of brothels that are very clean and well run.
GFE a bit over the top here. Some hookers will ask you if kissing is ok because it does turn off customers. Yes, the hookers want to know if it is OK to deep throat you. Never had a problem with BBBJ.
Downside is everything in Sao Paolo is spread out so Uber charges add up, and you won't find 10 dollar pussy like you would in a Medellin Centro brothel.
A little Portuguese is enough if you already speak good Spanish.
And that club you went to? Club Gusto where you met your blackmailer does not have semi pros. Those are among the hardest hookers I have met in Medellin. Nice place for sure but expensive pussy, and usually bad attitude.
Good luck to you. I hope you learn from the experience, but I have some doubts about that after reading your rationalization of how you wound up in this situation. I hope you at least understand you should evaluate your long term relationship options based on a girl's character as well as her appearance. If you are worried about getting pinched at immigration when you arrive in Colombia, consider hiring a Colombian investigator and / or attorney. They could dig up any wants or warrants against you.
By the way, how much personal information (other than pictures of your genitals) did you share with this woman? I'm referring to things like your legal name, your residential or business address, government identification numbers (social security etc.)? Consider keeping that sort of information to yourself from now on.
So after a whole day of massive panicking about this subject but talking it through with close friends and even a lawyer I came.
To the decision of all blocked communications in whatsapp and social media, and as you guys suggested I did not send her a single dime. I was thinking it through and there are two most probable things she is going to do with that money a) most likely buy drugs b) or perhaps use that money to contact a prosecuting attorney. Now there is a problem, I won't hear from her probably unless she tries to contact me through another phone in which I will immediately block, but now I am wondering if what Queen35 said is true, where out of spite she were to go and contact the authorities and even where to go and exaggerate and make up lies like saying I raped her or something like that and that puts me in a criminal list where I would be flagged if I ever where to go back to Colombia. Again the only reason why I am concern is because she is the Colombian variation of ghetto trash biotch. She is addicted to cocaine, emotionally unstable, resides in the piece of shit neighborhood of San Javier, and her ex husband the father of her 4 yr old child is a criminal and is actually incarcerated for homicide..
I can't remember seeing an unescorted girl in the place who wasn't working. Hard.
And that club you went to? Club Gusto where you met your blackmailer does not have semi pros. Those are among the hardest hookers I have met in Medellin. Nice place for sure but expensive pussy, and usually bad attitude.
Gents,
Starting this weekend, Jenson will be catering to our hobby and our fraternity on Fridays and Saturday nights from 7 pm-2 am. There are drink specials, etc. But mostly, there will be plenty of talent available to mingle with and take out, should you come to terms.
Address is Cra 37, # 10-29. There is a large lit sign. The place is a block over from Parque Lleras. Hope to see you there.
Colombia is sure the best for me (sorry if this will sound a little racist, but it is my taste and preference for women) because a lot of women are more caucasian and more European looking.How does preferring caucasian women make you racist? In such a situation only you know whether you are racist or not. If a caucasian man prefers Asian women, what does that make him?
Doc_Austin
08-11-17, 14:52
Hi Guys,
Am a single traveller to Medellin between August 24-September 7 next month.
As we all know, single mongering can get a littler tiring.
So folks, if in town on same dates, do drop a PM.
We could be a team.My friend and I wlll be in town Aug 27-Sept 5. Happy to coordinate a hang out.
Doc.
Well yesterday late at night the mother of that girl ended up sending me a message through facebook messenger since I had blocked her from all social media, saying she will pursue this and get me for acoso sexual and she said also for pedophilia (even tho her daughter is 21) and all that BS, I did not respond of course I blocked her as well but that threat still made me feel uncomfortable and sure enough I was panicking last night (I suffer from panic attacks when a stressful situation occurs) I had all my closest friends consolidate me and telling me everything will be fine that is practically impossible for me to get into mayor trouble for this, but now that last thing the mother said got me worried because the girl does have a 16 year old sister that I definitely did not ever mess with (I am not that fucking stupid) so maybe they can fabricate a lie saying I did something with the younger sister and thus the pedofile threat, in which case that may be more serious, but again I have photo evidence that it was the older sister sending me pics and having the conversations with me, so that would practically be impossible as well but still I hate being put into all this drama, again they may just be messing with my head and trying to get money off of me and they know how gullible I am, but yeah user Knowledge I definitely learned my lesson, I am definitely never going to Colombia, in all honesty I am probably going to give up mongering all together if I can possibly do that, I already have a GF, mongering for me was not my only source of sex it was supposed to be an easy and commitment free way of obtaining sex with other partners and definately going through this BS and drama with a trash hoe is not worth it by any means, again as long as I am not going to get arrested and get fucked I really don't care what happens, I am not going to go to Colombia ever again so I should never worry about that situation, every single person I talked to about this said that is practically impossible that I will be extradited for sending dick pics to a low life chica, so yeah I am a little relaxed still always that "what if" scenarios go through my brain because I suffer from panic attacks and anxiety disorder, I am going to go to a therapist soon and everything should be good.
Some 'semi' pro that one turned out to be.ROFLMAOOO. There is no "semi-" about her, she is a total pro.
But how do they look?Girls I have met in Centro strip clubs and on the street:
So after a whole day of massive panicking about this subject but talking it through with close friends and even a lawyer I came.....Don't suppose want to post a pic of her so other can beware?
CavanaughSlim
08-11-17, 20:23
Heading to Medellin from August 18th to the 29th, staying in the El Poblado section. If anyone wants to link up, drop me a line!
She should know better? You mean that she should EXPECT that every gringo will bring hookers to her apartment, right?Yes! She should absolutely expect Americans coming to Colombia to get girls, why else would we go there? The coffee?
Girls I have met in Centro strip clubs and on the street:And they were $10? Some were hot.
Well yesterday late at night the mother of that girl ended up sending me a message through facebook messenger since I had blocked her from all social media, saying she will pursue this and get me for acoso sexual and she said also for pedophilia (even tho her daughter is 21) and all that BS, I did not respond of course I blocked her as well but that threat still made me feel uncomfortable and sure enough I was panicking last night (I suffer from panic attacks when a stressful situation occurs) I had all my closest friends consolidate me and telling me everything will be fine that is practically impossible for me to get into mayor trouble for this, but now that last thing the mother said got me worried because the girl does have a 16 year old sister that I definitely did not ever mess with (I am not that fucking stupid) so maybe they can fabricate a lie saying I did something with the younger sister and thus the pedofile threat, in which case that may be more serious, but again I have photo evidence that it was the older sister sending me pics and having the conversations with me, so that would practically be impossible as well but still I hate being put into all this drama, again they may just be messing with my head and trying to get money off of me and they know how gullible I am, but yeah user Knowledge I definitely learned my lesson, I am definitely never going to Colombia, in all honesty I am probably going to give up mongering all together if I can possibly do that, I already have a GF, mongering for me was not my only source of sex it was supposed to be an easy and commitment free way of obtaining sex with other partners and definately going through this BS and drama with a trash hoe is not worth it by any means, again as long as I am not going to get arrested and get fucked I really don't care what happens, I am not going to go to Colombia ever again so I should never worry about that situation, every single person I talked to about this said that is practically impossible that I will be extradited for sending dick pics to a low life chica, so yeah I am a little relaxed still always that "what if" scenarios go through my brain because I suffer from panic attacks and anxiety disorder, I am going to go to a therapist soon and everything should be good.Dude,
She can't do anything, I'm a lawyer in New York, stop sweating this.
Tell her you contacted an attorney in Colombia and you are suing her for Malicious Prosecution and Abuse of Process and you have plenty of text messages where you both talked about sex. Tell her if she continues, she will face legal action.
Dad comes home and finds little Johnny giving his grandmother the business, he turns to Dad and says, "It's not so funny when it's your mom, is it?
I agree with the advice. For whatever reason, I would have qualified it as information I received from a trusted source.
Dude,
She can't do anything, I'm a lawyer in New York, stop sweating this.
Tell her you contacted an attorney in Colombia and you are suing her for Malicious Prosecution and Abuse of Process and you have plenty of text messages where you both talked about sex. Tell her if she continues, she will face legal action.
And they were $10? Some were hot.Top 3 left were strip clubs girls, they are a little more, bottom looking in mirror also strip club, rest were $10.
Well yesterday late at night the mother of that girl ended up sending me a message through facebook messenger since I had blocked her from all social media, saying she will pursue this and get me for acoso sexual and she said also for pedophilia (even tho her daughter is 21) and all that BS, I did not respond of course I blocked her as well but that threat still made me feel uncomfortable and sure enough I was panicking last night (I suffer from panic attacks when a stressful situation occurs).I'm thinking that mommy found the pics and maybe she doesn't know what babygirl does for a living. So babygirl made up a story that some gringo is sending her pick pics. Otherwise, I don't see why babygirl involved the mother, I'm sure she wouldn't want to split any money with her. You are going about this all wrong. You should have asked the mother if she could send you a pic of herself. And if a 3-way with her daughter was on the menu.
In all seriousness, you have nothing to worry about. If you stay out of Colombia, they can't touch you. In the unlikely event that you would receive a letter from some attorney (unlikely since it would cost them money, and I doubt a lawyer would take that on contingency), just ignore it. Or even better, return to post office with the words: RETURN TO SENDER.
YippieKayay
08-12-17, 06:45
I'm thinking that mommy found the pics and maybe she doesn't know what babygirl does for a living. So babygirl made up a story that some gringo is sending her pick pics. Otherwise, I don't see why babygirl involved the motherThe mother is probably in on the scam. Or it's a fake account. Believe me some of these people are positively shameless. Personally, I think the girls at Club Gusto are having a laugh at the guy who fell for this and sent a million pesos.
Do Not Send Anymore Money.
200,000 short time? Don't be a sucker! You are grossly overpaying. Most (except the spoiled princesses) will happily accept 150 k.
9's and at least one 10 at the Mansion? We must have a different scoring system. I have never seen a 9 there in 3 trips.No kidding. I'm wondering if the poster is one of the owners. Because I've never seen better than an 8 at the Mansion. And about one-third of the girls would have to pay me to fuck them.
200 k might be overpaying, but certainly not "grossly" so. That said, virtually all the girls will be happy with 150 k. The key is don't tell her a price around her girlfriends. They all want to brag to their friends about how much they are getting paid.
The mother is probably in on the scam. Or it's a fake account. Believe me some of these people are positively shameless. Personally, I think the girls at Club Gusto are having a laugh at the guy who fell for this and sent a million pesos.
Do Not Send Anymore Money.That's the most likely. Don't send money. And don't maintain links with these chicas when you're outside of Colombia. Nothing to be gained from them knowing a thing about you -- starting with how to contact you.
No kidding. I'm wondering if the poster is one of the owners. Because I've never seen better than an 8 at the Mansion. And about one-third of the girls would have to pay me to fuck them.
200 k might be overpaying, but certainly not "grossly" so. That said, virtually all the girls will be happy with 150 k. The key is don't tell her a price around her girlfriends. They all want to brag to their friends about how much they are getting paid.
That's the most likely. Don't send money. And don't maintain links with these chicas when you're outside of Colombia. Nothing to be gained from them knowing a thing about you -- starting with how to contact you.Yes. When you go home from Las Vegas do you text your favorite dealer or croupier? "Hey babe look at these pictures of my money. Send me some BJ (blackjack) pics."
If she's really good, really, really good, stay in infrequent contact, but never send money. Also never get into any heavy conversations with her. She's someone you paid for sex on vacation. All the time she's talking to you, she's getting paid to have sex with other guys. If she sends pics or videos just say "Bonita. " When she starts talking about money, ignore her.
99.999999% of the time you're just a machine that spits out 50 k peso notes. The time to talk with her is in the last 10 days before your return trip.
Never, ever send pictures of your junk. Of the 3.5 billion women in the world only 9 want to see pictures of dicks. The only time a woman will ask for a dick pic is when she's trying to get to your wallet. Almost every time they are showing the picture to their friends and laughing hysterically. Fortunately, I never have to see the pictures, but I get to hear the jokes. No matter what they say on Whatsapp, they are not impressed.
YippieKayay
08-12-17, 15:27
That's the most likely. Don't send money. And don't maintain links with these chicas when you're outside of Colombia. Nothing to be gained from them knowing a thing about you -- starting with how to contact you.A monger I met last year gave me excellent advice about prepagos and which ones are worth maintaining contact with. The ones who always want / talk about money and always talk about themselves you should stay away from. Just money holes. Others can actually be decent and useful to know if you need info.
Trust me the money hungry ones will come running when you want to fuck them. Just be unavailable to everything else. You can even block and unblock as needed on WhatsApp.
I keep in touch with a handful. All except one are in Cartagena.
No kidding. I'm wondering if the poster is one of the owners. Because I've never seen better than an 8 at the Mansion. And about one-third of the girls would have to pay me to fuck them.
200 k might be overpaying, but certainly not "grossly" so. That said, virtually all the girls will be happy with 150 k. The key is don't tell her a price around her girlfriends. They all want to brag to their friends about how much they are getting paid.
That's the most likely. Don't send money. And don't maintain links with these chicas when you're outside of Colombia. Nothing to be gained from them knowing a thing about you -- starting with how to contact you.I don't know how you guys can be that picky, but to each his own. And if the girls aren't so hot, why is the Mansion always booked up?
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And they were $10? Some were hot.Those were the hot ones, what strip clubs? And thank you.
I was in Medellin about a year ago and was in the Santa Fe mall at Ciudad Comics (don't go there) and they had one of those all-in-one computers. It was perched on a shelf, very precariously by the edge. I picked up a sign to read and I knocked over the computer. It broke and I apologized but on the way out, the manager stopped me and told me I had to pay for the computer. I gave her the finger and left, had lunch and on the way out, security stopped me. I just kept walking to leave the mall but the cops showed up. They wanted to see the damage so I went back to the store with the cops and showed them how the computer was situated. I'm not fluent in Spanish but I can see they agreed with me. The manager wanted $1200 US for the computer. I said I'm not paying it and walked out. The manager tried to stop me and I pushed her (accidentally) into the glass door which shattered. I gave my hands to the cops as if to say "Put the cuffs on me" and they would not, I actually wanted to go to jail because there was no way in hell I was paying for that computer, I'd rather pay the cops off with that money. Not to sound like a dick, but I've been to prison and the thought of going to a Colombian jail did not scare me. But really, I couldn't see me getting arrested for an accident. Besides, I would have just paid the cops once we left anyway. After hours of fighting, I realized I could just pay for it, and then dispute it with my credit card company. So that's what I did and didn't have to pay a dime. Just wish I was there to see the look on their faces when they realized they weren't getting paid.
Yes. When you go home from Las Vegas do you text your favorite dealer or croupier? "Hey babe look at these pictures of my money. Send me some BJ (blackjack) pics."
If she's really good, really, really good, stay in infrequent contact, but never send money. Also never get into any heavy conversations with her. She's someone you paid for sex on vacation. All the time she's talking to you, she's getting paid to have sex with other guys. If she sends pics or videos just say "Bonita. " When she starts talking about money, ignore her.
99.999999% of the time you're just a machine that spits out 50 k peso notes. The time to talk with her is in the last 10 days before your return trip.
Never, ever send pictures of your junk. Of the 3.5 billion women in the world only 9 want to see pictures of dicks. The only time a woman will ask for a dick pic is when she's trying to get to your wallet. Almost every time they are showing the picture to their friends and laughing hysterically. Fortunately, I never have to see the pictures, but I get to hear the jokes. No matter what they say on Whatsapp, they are not impressed.You want to laugh, I had a girl, not a Colombian, a girl here in the states from match.com, ask me for a dick pic because she wanted to make sure it wasn't too small. I told her she was a working girl. Truth be told, it is small and I knew at that point I was busted.
So after a whole day of massive panicking about this subject but talking it through with close friends and even a lawyer I came.
To the decision of all blocked communications in whatsapp and social media, and as you guys suggested I did not send her a single dime. I was thinking it through and there are two most probable things she is going to do with that money a) most likely buy drugs b) or perhaps use that money to contact a prosecuting attorney. Now there is a problem, I won't hear from her probably unless she tries to contact me through another phone in which I will immediately block, but now I am wondering if what Queen35 said is true, where out of spite she were to go and contact the authorities and even where to go and exaggerate and make up lies like saying I raped her or something like that and that puts me in a criminal list where I would be flagged if I ever where to go back to Colombia. Again the only reason why I am concern is because she is the Colombian variation of ghetto trash biotch. She is addicted to cocaine, emotionally unstable, resides in the piece of shit neighborhood of San Javier, and her ex husband the father of her 4 yr old child is a criminal and is actually incarcerated for homicide. I only knew of these details once I got to know her better, it's not like I knew the girl and her background when I found her in parque lleras in the club above the medellin beer factory LOL. But yeah, all around it would suck not knowing if she actually contacted the authorities and not knowing whether I can go to Colombia or not..Are you for real? Extradite you to Colombia? You watch too many movies and too much TV Bro. They can't extradite you to Colombia for this, you're not Pablo Escobar. You really are naïve and gullible, no offense, I'm trying to open your eyes. An extradition is reserved for felons, which you are not. This is a misdemeanor at best, and Colombian cops are lazy as hell. They don't get paid enough to care. And you can totally go back to Colombia.
Those were the hot ones, what strip clubs? And thank you.Top left 2 pics same girl, she works at Conejitas when she's in town but working in the islands till near the end of Sept, the other 2, the one in white t-shirt and the one looking in mirror both work at Barre Ejectiva.
El Mechanico
08-12-17, 22:19
I don't know how you guys can be that picky, but to each his own. And if the girls aren't so hot, why is the Mansion always booked up?-1) It's easy.
-2) No Espanol required.
-3) The girls come to you.
-4) Girls / cedulas are vetted by front desk.
-5) 2 security gates to get thru.
-6) 24 HR security.
-7) You meet like minded mongers that will tell you how great they are the more they drink by the pool.
-8) decent bar, La Cueva, on premesis (sp?) albeit with a rattlesnake for a bartender.
-9) all logistical work is done by reception (Taxis, airport transfer, special events on the trolley, etc).
-10) 4th of July party.
7& 8 are why I will probably never stay there again!
I have to agree, I thought the girls were incredible & would rate at least 2 of them a 10 and several others a 9. JMHO!
El Mechanico.
El Mechanico
08-12-17, 22:25
They don't get paid enough to care.
Now that's funny, I don't care who you are!! If see++ didn't believe anyone else who told him the same thing a 1000 different ways, he should believe this. Thanks V!!
El Mechanico.
I'm a youthful and athletic soon to be 50 year old.
That's the beauty of Colombia.Love it! Heading to Bogota tomorrow, then in to Medellin. But first. A quick trip to Victoria's Secret! Thanks!
Full disclosure with respect to numbers 4) and 5) - the place was jacked some time ago, so it's not a place to let down your guard, not there or anywhere else.
-1) It's easy.
-2) No Espanol required.
-3) The girls come to you.
-4) Girls / cedulas are vetted by front desk.
-5) 2 security gates to get thru.
-6) 24 HR security.
-7) You meet like minded mongers that will tell you how great they are the more they drink by the pool.
-8) decent bar, La Cueva, on premesis (sp?) albeit with a rattlesnake for a bartender.
-9) all logistical work is done by reception (Taxis, airport transfer, special events on the trolley, etc)..
I don't know how you guys can be that picky, but to each his own. And if the girls aren't so hot, why is the Mansion always booked up?Because they only have 12 rooms and there is nothing else like it in MDE or in Colombia for that matter. Because lots of guys are quite happy to fuck a 6. 7 or 8 without worrying about being busted which they'd have to in their home country. Because it offers an instant group of like-minded fellow travelers to hang with. Because a lot of guys that might be afraid to go to Colombia can stay there and have their hands held and be relatively safe.
Look I like the Mansion. I've stayed there 18-20 times over the years (despite speaking Spanish and knowing the city very well). I love the camaraderie with fellow guests and even with the owners and staff. And yes, it's nice to have girls hanging around even if not are all fuckworthy. But if you think 9's and 10's abound, you need to get out more. A lot of the chicas there wouldn't get a 2nd look from us if we saw them walking down the street of our city.
Black Page
08-13-17, 09:47
Because they only have 12 rooms and there is nothing else like it in MDE or in Colombia for that matter. Because lots of guys......All that, 100%, and also because it is continuously presented here as one of the main spots in Colombia, and it has been so since at least the first time I opened ISG (more than 10 years ago).
A lot of the chicas there wouldn't get a 2nd look from us if we saw them walking down the street of our city.And even more in Medellin! (I literally fall in love every 5 minutes there, just looking at the pretty ladies who walk around).
Because they only have 12 rooms and there is nothing else like it in MDE or in Colombia for that matter. Because lots of guys are quite happy to fuck a 6. 7 or 8 without worrying about being busted which they'd have to in their home country. Because it offers an instant group of like-minded fellow travelers to hang with. Because a lot of guys that might be afraid to go to Colombia can stay there and have their hands held and be relatively safe.
Look I like the Mansion. I've stayed there 18-20 times over the years (despite speaking Spanish and knowing the city very well). I love the camaraderie with fellow guests and even with the owners and staff. And yes, it's nice to have girls hanging around even if not are all fuckworthy. But if you think 9's and 10's abound, you need to get out more. A lot of the chicas there wouldn't get a 2nd look from us if we saw them walking down the street of our city.OK then, where are the 10's?
Mansion is good for a few days and if you are new. However, it can get old quick. Very rarely will you see anything about an 8 here, I haven't seen a 9 or 10 at Mansion in the last few years. There are a lot of like minded guys here that you can hang with and 99% are cool but everyone loves to brag / talk about working girl conquests and the same shit over and over. It really gets old fast. The best is the guys who think they are the MAN because they get the mansion girls to surround them with free booze etc.
The whole Luna click is very tiresome and old. Luna has become the defacto leader and that whole stable of girls really does nothing for me at all. I always hope a new stable of girls will come in but haven't seen that happen since I guess no one is actively recruiting.
Overall, I enjoy staying at Mansion for a few days but it can get old quickly.
Hi guys,
I will be spending 3 days in MDE, landing around midnight on a Thursday, as a first timer. After reading extensively about MDE, it doesn't seem like it is a city where a guy can walk into one of these girlie bars and pick a girl that he likes. It is seems like the action is mainly a brothels-like scene (one of my least favorite). Is my understanding correct? What are my options on a late Thursday night arrival? Are sites like photoprepagos a good option. There are many many girls on this site and the prices are reasonable (100 K, 120 K, 150 K).
As a first timer, should I just go ahead and book at the Mansion. It seems like it is a place that has girls on the premises. I am even entertaining Fase 2 although I am reading it is a ripoff. Is it worth it? How far is it from the Mansion?
Any pointers about bars with girls would be appreciated especially that I am the kind that likes to stay with a girl for several days at a time.
Thanks in advance.
Hi guys,
I will be spending 3 days in MDE, landing around midnight on a Thursday, as a first timer. After reading extensively about MDE, it doesn't seem like it is a city where a guy can walk into one of these girlie bars and pick a girl that he likes. It is seems like the action is mainly a brothels-like scene (one of my least favorite). Is my understanding correct? What are my options on a late Thursday night arrival? Are sites like photoprepagos a good option. There are many many girls on this site and the prices are reasonable (100 K, 120 K, 150 K)..The strip clubs are like that, you go in, have a drink, pick a girl you like. FaseII is on the expensive side for Medellin, but even that is only around $63 for a girl on site. It's the bar tab that will add up there but there are other cheaper strip clubs down town where the girls are in the $30 range. The problem with the photoprepago sites are does the girl look like her pics or has she gained weight or she she a psycho etc.
The upscale ones:
FaseII-Cra. 44 #30-15.
http://www.clubfasedos.com/
Bar La Isla-Las Palmas Medellin.
Grill San Diego-Calle 37 No. 45-15.
Luna Lunera-Calle 33 63 b-215.
http://lunalunera.com.co
The cheaper ones:
Barra Ejecutiva-Calle 53 #48-20.
And 2 doors down:
Maracaibo-Calle 53 #49-30.
Conejitas Show Bar-Calle 53 #51-41.
And a few doors to the right:
Grille Nueva Avenida.
There are a few more I haven't been to also.
OK then, where are the 10's?This is a persistent question. 99.9% of girls are not P4 P. Go through top MDE clubs, take a look at civilians, there you will find literally tens of 10. From what I see, there are higher P4 P tiers, one at 600 K to 1,200 K and the second from 3,000 K to $6,000 K per hour (here are your 10's).
So, you can chase non-pros, be delusional that you can find them on the streets or in casas, be lucky at tier 1 or be affluent to get them at top tier.
Any pointers about bars with girls would be appreciated especially that I am the kind that likes to stay with a girl for several days at a time.All the strip clubs allow the girls to leave with you if you pay the bar fee, about $16 in the cheap clubs, more in the upscale clubs, you just have to bargain with the girl for what she wants, usually somewhere between $66 and $100 for the cheaper clubs girls for all night.
These are some of the girls I have pulled from the downtown clubs for all nighters.
Mr Enternational
08-14-17, 04:40
This is a persistent question. 99.9% of girls are not P4 P. Go through top MDE clubs, take a look at civilians, there you will find literally tens of 10.Do blind mongers have this problem? I am just happy to be having some fun and getting some pussy. Having to worry about going around rating everyone would drive me crazy.
OK then, where are the 10's?Moda Colombia, not the Mansion.
Sometimes mongering isn't optimal during and after a pope visit.
https://www.franciscanmedia.org/pope-to-visit-colombia-as-it-emerges-from-half-century-of-war/
Pope Francis will be visiting Colombia in mid-September as the Latin American nation works to implement a new peace deal and rebuild after 52 years of war.
The Vatican announced March 10 that the pope had accepted the invitation of President Juan Manuel Santos and the Colombian bishops.
The trip, Sept. 6-11, will include visits to the cities of Bogota, Villavicencio, Medellin and Cartagena. Details of the trip were to be published at a later date.
MedellinGringo
08-14-17, 05:48
Hi guys,
I will be spending 3 days in MDE, landing around midnight on a Thursday, as a first timer. After reading extensively about MDE, it doesn't seem like it is a city where a guy can walk into one of these girlie bars and pick a girl that he likes. It is seems like the action is mainly a brothels-like scene (one of my least favorite). Is my understanding correct? What are my options on a late Thursday night arrival? Are sites like photoprepagos a good option. There are many many girls on this site and the prices are reasonable (100 K, 120 K, 150 K).
As a first timer, should I just go ahead and book at the Mansion. It seems like it is a place that has girls on the premises. I am even entertaining Fase 2 although I am reading it is a ripoff. Is it worth it? How far is it from the Mansion?
Any pointers about bars with girls would be appreciated especially that I am the kind that likes to stay with a girl for several days at a time.
Thanks in advance.Three days is too short a time to stay in Medellin and actually get a good idea of what the city can offer as far as women.
So, yes book a room at the Mansion if they have any availability. Hit the pool at the Mansion during the day and the Cueva bar at night until about 11 pm. If you don't see anything that really turns you on at the Mansion bar then go to the strip clubs.
Any guy that stays with a girl for several days. Has to be into GFE which you are much more likely to find with a Mansion chick then at a strip club.
But all strip club chicks can spend the night with you if you pay the bar fine to get them out.
I also have girls stay with me for days or even weeks at a time. But you have to make some kind of a connection with these women and that takes time. I find FaceBook invaluable in finding women that would rather sell their ass for a week to one guy rather than sell it to a dozen guys for an hour at a time.
Black Page
08-14-17, 09:53
After reading extensively about MDE, it doesn't seem like it is a city where a guy can walk into one of these girlie bars and pick a girl that he likes.Your perception is based on what you read here and on the orientation of most posters.
Indeed, ANY bar of the Centro is like that. Around De Greiff and the streets of Raudal, there are tons of bars, aside one after the other. The problem is that it should be considered off limits for most foreigners (don't venture).
This is a persistent question. 99.9% of girls are not P4 P. Go through top MDE clubs, take a look at civilians, there you will find literally tens of 10.Well said. And of course, no hope with non P4P for 99.999% of the readers of this forum. ALSO men in Colombia are handsome, not only girls. And yes, there are many 10's also among boys. Rich too.
In conclusion, if you look as Brad Pitt and drive a Ferrari, then you'll have your good chance to pull non-P4P 10's out from high-society clubs.
These are some of the girls I have pulled from the downtown clubs for all nighters.All very far from being 10's.
However, I may share your enthusiam. The physical look and body features are not the only or even the main things that make a girl attractive and sexy. There's something else, and yes it can be found anywhere.
Three days is too short a time to stay in Medellin and actually get a good idea of what the city can offer as far as women.Totally true about the short stay in MDE. I am pretty aware I would get much better if I only could stay months there for living and working.
So, yes book a room at the Mansion if they have any availability. See? Again. There must be a reason if it's always fully booked. (besides the undisputed fact that the owners are cool and the service good, at least for that market target).
I have been messaging providers on paisasdivinas and photosprepagos and getting rates of 600-700 for TLN. Is that the norm now or should I be negotiating with them for a lower rate?
Mr Enternational
08-14-17, 17:15
I have been messaging providers on paisasdivinas and photosprepagos and getting rates of 600-700 for TLN. Is that the norm now or should I be negotiating with them for a lower rate?Are you in Medellin now with dick in hand and ready to fuck? If not, then I would say messaging them for what? You are just browsing, bka wasting their time. It is like when you are driving past a car lot and see those big numbers on the windshield. When you pull up in the lot with cash in hand you get bargaining power.
I have been messaging providers on paisasdivinas and photosprepagos and getting rates of 600-700 for TLN. Is that the norm now or should I be negotiating with them for a lower rate?Never agree to TLN with some stranger from an ad site. The only time to negotiate with a stranger of an ad site for TLN is if you have reason to believe the world will end at 4 am.
In a city where you can get laid for the price of 3 Happy Meals why would you consider giving $200 or more to spend the night with a complete unknown?
You're better off negotiating for 1 hour at no more than 150 k. If she's really good, offer double and dinner plus taxi for TLN. Best bet is to find a wingman and hit casas or clubs. Unless that's a complete turn off.
Moda Colombia, not the Mansion.Where is that?
I have been messaging providers on paisasdivinas and photosprepagos and getting rates of 600-700 for TLN. Is that the norm now or should I be negotiating with them for a lower rate?I've only paid 250 k to 300 k but those were SeekingArrangements.com and Centro strip club girls.
All very far from being 10's.
However, I may share your enthusiam. The physical look and body features are not the only or even the main things that make a girl attractive and sexy. There's something else, and yes it can be found anywhere.
Beauty being in the eye of the beholder of course and therefore subjective and a sweet attitude does go a long way but I wouldn't call Tanya "far from a 10" in looks but then I know how sweet she is and what she looks like naked. I'd say she's a solid 8 bordering on a 9. YMMV.
Because they only have 12 rooms and there is nothing else like it in MDE or in Colombia for that matter. Because lots of guys are quite happy to fuck a 6. 7 or 8 without worrying about being busted which they'd have to in their home country. Because it offers an instant group of like-minded fellow travelers to hang with. Because a lot of guys that might be afraid to go to Colombia can stay there and have their hands held and be relatively safe.
Look I like the Mansion. I've stayed there 18-20 times over the years (despite speaking Spanish and knowing the city very well). I love the camaraderie with fellow guests and even with the owners and staff. And yes, it's nice to have girls hanging around even if not are all fuckworthy. But if you think 9's and 10's abound, you need to get out more. A lot of the chicas there wouldn't get a 2nd look from us if we saw them walking down the street of our city.I never said 9's and 10's abound.
Are you in Medellin now with dick in hand and ready to fuck? If not, then I would say messaging them for what? You are just browsing, bka wasting their time. It is like when you are driving past a car lot and see those big numbers on the windshield. When you pull up in the lot with cash in hand you get bargaining power.The guys doing some research and legwork, leave him alone. Everyone loves to act like they are so wise on this forum. You're mongering, it's sex for money, not rocket science.
So these are 10's, correct?
I have been messaging providers on paisasdivinas and photosprepagos and getting rates of 600-700 for TLN. Is that the norm now or should I be negotiating with them for a lower rate?What's TLN? And do you mean 600.000 pesos or 600 dollars?
Do blind mongers have this problem? I am just happy to be having some fun and getting some pussy. Having to worry about going around rating everyone would drive me crazy.Exactly, just have fun!
Who cares what number someone else attaches to a girl's beauty.
So subjective anyway.
Beauty being in the eye of the beholder of course and therefore subjective and a sweet attitude does go a long way.Right on brotha!
The guys doing some research and legwork, leave him alone. Everyone loves to act like they are so wise on this forum. You're mongering, it's sex for money, not rocket science.He's not doing legwork. That's what Wolf662 and several others do. They walk the streets, finding the women and then post the results. He's not doing research. If he did some research he would know that what he is doing is, at best a waste of time and at worst a ruined trip.
The people here who act so wise are people who got wise by making mistakes and learning from them. Now they are nice enough to try and help others avoid repeating their mistakes.
For the guy asking, TLN is "Toda La Noche" or all night. The prices he is being quoted are in Colombian pesos. 600,000 COP is about $200 USD. Any Colombian woman quoting prices in dollars should be avoided, but you're unlikely to find that.
There are many women here who will carry on long Whatsapp exchanges with you. Every few days they will have a family emergency and can you please send money.
Most of the women advertising on the sites are only interested in talking to you when you are ready to do business. Whatever deal you make with them disappears once they find out you're not even in the country. Trying to schedule with them more than a few hours in advance is a waste of time. Someone else will call and they've forgotten about you.
Planning TLN with a stranger from an ad site is a bad idea, especially if she's quoting 600 k. Research will show that many use fake or outdated pictures. There's also no way to gauge her performance. Even if she shows up looking incredible, she might be lousy, she might not do what you want or she might have hygiene issues. By the time you discover the problem she's expecting the TLN rate.
If you insist on trying to preschedule, don't bother until you're under 24 hours away. Schedule 1 hour, not TLN. Expect her to be 30 to 120 minutes late. Don't be surprised if she's a no show.
YippieKayay
08-15-17, 01:16
I have been messaging providers on paisasdivinas and photosprepagos and getting rates of 600-700 for TLN. Is that the norm now or should I be negotiating with them for a lower rate?Should be closer to 400 k or less for TLN. Certainly not 600 k. BTW, they usually start high because they expect you to bargain them down, but in your case they're looking to see if they can get an astronomical price. They probably don't want to TLN With someone they never met.
Save yourself some time, and their time, get off the silly back pages and go meet them face to face. It's really much better.
What's TLN? And do you mean 600.000 pesos or 600 dollars?TLN=Toda La Noche or All night long.
Those would be in pesos so around $200, good for the US, very high for MDE.
So these are 10's, correct?I'd say 8's & 9's. For some 10's I'd say see the Colombian women in the 1st 40 seconds of the video on this page-upper right corner in a browser, half way down the page on a cel- the vid is a good intro to the MDE adult scene also for 1st timers anyway, although the prices are a little high since it was made before the peso dropped:
http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/
Blue Touch
08-15-17, 01:37
Have a few hh sessions w the girls before contemplating about TLN with them.
I have been messaging providers on paisasdivinas and photosprepagos and getting rates of 600-700 for TLN. Is that the norm now or should I be negotiating with them for a lower rate?
YippieKayay
08-15-17, 02:18
Sometimes mongering isn't optimal during and after a pope visit.
https://www.franciscanmedia.org/pope-to-visit-colombia-as-it-emerges-from-half-century-of-war/
Pope Francis will be visiting Colombia in mid-September as the Latin American nation works to implement a new peace deal and rebuild after 52 years of war.
The Vatican announced March 10 that the pope had accepted the invitation of President Juan Manuel Santos and the Colombian bishops.
The trip, Sept. 6-11, will include visits to the cities of Bogota, Villavicencio, Medellin and Cartagena. Details of the trip were to be published at a later date.My two hooker friends in Cartagena told me it should be business as usual. Luckily for me he arrives in Cartagena on my last day so I should be wifed up and good by then. I hope the extra security won't be too crazy.
Do blind mongers have this problem? I am just happy to be having some fun and getting some pussy. Having to worry about going around rating everyone would drive me crazy.Same here. I am into above average looks and with a good heart.
Black Page
08-15-17, 09:32
He's not doing legwork. That's what Wolf662 and several others do. They walk the streets, finding the women and then post the results. He's not doing research. If he did some research he would know that what he is doing is, at best a waste of time and at worst a ruined trip.
...........I second all that. Only wise words in this post! Anyone disagreeing with that has no clue of what is this hobby and what is Colombia.
By the way, anyone who wastes time (his time and time of the providers) on web escort sites, before even coming to Medellin, deserves to be overcharged and "punished".
Negotiating TLN with someone never met before? NEVER. They know it well, and they are probably exploring the opportunity to suck money with some scam (incl. US price 400 USD for a lousy experience).
Exploring those web sites? NEVER, at least in Colombia, where at every corner you see a dream of your life.
Mr Enternational
08-15-17, 12:42
Negotiating TLN with someone never met before? NEVER.Like Jj said, we are just trying to pass the shit on that we learned the hard way. And to tell the truth this is a lesson that I just recently learned. And luckily I was in the Philippines when I learned it so it was not as expensive as the 600K talk going on now.
Just this past May I met a chick on a chat app and had her come over for all night $23. Well when she got there she was not to my liking. Her feet were all dirty, teeth messed up, and breath smelled terrible. I had no problem turning her loose with full payment after the first round. That was only $23. No way I would take that risk with $200 at stake.
Hasideas Tao
08-15-17, 17:19
Beauty being in the eye of the beholder of course and therefore subjective and a sweet attitude does go a long way but I wouldn't call Tanya "far from a 10" in looks but then I know how sweet she is and what she looks like naked. I'd say she's a solid 8 bordering on a 9. YMMV.Far as I can tell she looks pretty hot. By the way, where is that pic taken? I'm always looking for a nice atmosphere to chill in El Centro. Thanks for the post!
Far as I can tell she looks pretty hot. By the way, where is that pic taken? I'm always looking for a nice atmosphere to chill in El Centro. Thanks for the post!That's the roof top bar at the Hotel Botero Medellin, Carrera 50 A No. 53-45.
Behind Hotel Nutribara where the buses to the airport park.
It's on the roof, 15 stories up and opens at 11:30 am.
Here's a video I took from there if you want to see more of what it looks like and Tanya too!
https://youtu.be/48fn1Nlw_is
Black Page
08-15-17, 19:11
Like Jj said, we are just trying to pass the shit on that we learned the hard way. And to tell the truth this is a lesson that I just recently learned. And luckily I was in the Philippines when I learned it so it was not as expensive as the 600K talk going on now.Philippines is another world. I admit I've never been there (I don't know how could I justify a trip there for business reasons. The cover is getting short for KL and Singapore already, imagine for Thailand or Philippines), BUT I've read enough to allow me to claim I am somehow "expert" of pros and cons there. And Pinays have always been my favourite fetish among all Asians (I've been with many, also some in my country in Europe, but not in their homeland, UNFORTUNATELY).
So, this long foreword to say what. Philippines is another world, compared to Colombia. Everything is much cheaper, and that makes the risk of our business much more affordable. But, as Colombia can be, it is full of scammers. I don't know why, but there is a whole lot of difference between Pinays met overseas and who can be faced in their country. If I hire a Pinay maid in Europe, I KNOW I can give her my home keys and everything will be safe. No joke. Those ladies are 100% reliable and honest. The back side of the coin is that if I cross the path of a Pinay girl in the street in my country, I will be fully transparent for her. No way to flirt. They seem to only walk from home to workplace to church and back.
Conversely, as you probably know well, in Philippines one meets a potential good girlfriend or lover every 5 minutes, but also should be extremely careful with new girls met not only in night places.
In short, I think it could have been worse for you. In your case, the girl was simply ugly and dirty. Imagine you take home a scammer who tries to steal something, or brings drug and calls police friends to make some money with the foreigner, or simply comes and do nothing.
What I learned, doing my mistakes and paying my bill, is to plan and negotiate just for a ST, in call cases with any girl from any source, could be the top night club in town or the street corner where drug addicts gather. There is always the opportunity to extend, the same night or in the future, but only with who "deserves it".
I'd say 8's & 9's. For some 10's I'd say see the Colombian women in the 1st 40 seconds of the video on this page-upper right corner in a browser, half way down the page on a cel- the vid is a good intro to the MDE adult scene also for 1st timers anyway, although the prices are a little high since it was made before the peso dropped:
http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/Correction, the vid is in the upper left hand corner of the webpage. Woops!
Never agree to TLN with some stranger from an ad site. The only time to negotiate with a stranger of an ad site for TLN is if you have reason to believe the world will end at 4 am.
In a city where you can get laid for the price of 3 Happy Meals why would you consider giving $200 or more to spend the night with a complete unknown?
You're better off negotiating for 1 hour at no more than 150 k. If she's really good, offer double and dinner plus taxi for TLN. Best bet is to find a wingman and hit casas or clubs. Unless that's a complete turn off.If I truly believed the world was going to end, I would be hiring all the tens I could find. At least until the credit card reached its limit.
Pipe Layer99
08-15-17, 23:21
... Just this past May I met a chick on a chat app and had her come over for all night $23. Well when she got there she was not to my liking. Her feet were all dirty, teeth messed up, and breath smelled terrible. I had no problem turning her loose with full payment after the first round. That was only $23. No way I would take that risk with $200 at stake.After the FIRST round? Shit I would have turned her away at the door. LMAO.
He's not doing legwork. That's what Wolf662 and several others do. They walk the streets, finding the women and then post the results. He's not doing research. If he did some research he would know that what he is doing is, at best a waste of time and at worst a ruined trip.
The people here who act so wise are people who got wise by making mistakes and learning from them. Now they are nice enough to try and help others avoid repeating their mistakes.
For the guy asking, TLN is "Toda La Noche" or all night. The prices he is being quoted are in Colombian pesos. 600,000 COP is about $200 USD. Any Colombian woman quoting prices in dollars should be avoided, but you're unlikely to find that.
There are many women here who will carry on long Whatsapp exchanges with you. Every few days they will have a family emergency and can you please send money.
Most of the women advertising on the sites are only interested in talking to you when you are ready to do business. Whatever deal you make with them disappears once they find out you're not even in the country. Trying to schedule with them more than a few hours in advance is a waste of time. Someone else will call and they've forgotten about you..It's legwork because it gives him a frame of reference. What other kind of legwork can he do from the states? Not so wise.
I second all that. Only wise words in this post! Anyone disagreeing with that has no clue of what is this hobby and what is Colombia.
By the way, anyone who wastes time (his time and time of the providers) on web escort sites, before even coming to Medellin, deserves to be overcharged and "punished".
Negotiating TLN with someone never met before? NEVER. They know it well, and they are probably exploring the opportunity to suck money with some scam (incl. US price 400 USD for a lousy experience).
Exploring those web sites? NEVER, at least in Colombia, where at every corner you see a dream of your life.Knowledge is never a waste, this guy is doing legwork because legwork is what comes before the actual work of walking around the city looking for a girl. That's why it's called legwork. This guy now has a frame of reference when he goes, something to go on rather than nothing and the rantings and ravings of you guys, which are not exactly trustworthy at best. It's not a complete waste of time, it's common sense, has nothing to do with knowing the hobby.
Just this past May I met a chick on a chat app and had her come over for all night $23. Well when she got there she was not to my liking. Her feet were all dirty, teeth messed up, and breath smelled terrible. I had no problem turning her loose with full payment after the first round. That was only $23. No way I would take that risk with $200 at stake.The phrase "you get what you pay for" comes to mind. It's not always the case, but in this case it definitely applies. Did she leave her glue and crack pipe outside your door?
PaisaPorFavor
08-17-17, 06:20
A quick report, I used the list and map to get a head start. The 1st night I used Linda's chicas. 120 k for an hour. 6 girls to choose from. Decent place with plenty of room. El Centro was the next pursuit. A lot to choose from. A beautiful estafana was there. 30 k, 10 k room (her choice not horrible) probably 30 minutes session. Didn't have a stopwatch. Used Linda's chica again and another good experience.
The name slips my mind but #2. Aims to please. Same 120 k for hour. Then I mess up near the church on de Graff. I was just chatting with a girl when one I had interest in earlier approached. Now they wanted a 3 way of course. 50 k a piece, 60 k for room that was worse than the 10k room a block over. Upsells start immediately for anything. 20 k for tops off. Well time comes for leche so they earned that propina gagging all the way to the bathroom. 100 k a piece before it's over. One worth meeting again but now I've inflated the price. The list of drivers on the pdf was pretty useless as most numbers are outdated. Bucky even hung up when I told him where I got the number. Robert was now a girl number, Hector and Nick also had outdated numbers. Hopefully check out some cases next. Appreciate all the information fellas.
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