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JjBee62
08-17-17, 07:37
Knowledge is never a waste, this guy is doing legwork because legwork is what comes before the actual work of walking around the city looking for a girl. That's why it's called legwork. This guy now has a frame of reference when he goes, something to go on rather than nothing and the rantings and ravings of you guys, which are not exactly trustworthy at best. It's not a complete waste of time, it's common sense, has nothing to do with knowing the hobby.Anyone making their first trip to Medellin shouldn't be negotiating for TLN with girls off the ad sites. Anyone doing the legwork would know. This. They would also know 600 k is too much.

Bonhead
08-17-17, 11:27
No ones got the taste to give you kudos but I do. That is one of the hottest pics in the history of ISG. Well done!

How about posting a few more of these 3 in the PG? I'm guessing it gets better w / those sexy chicas.

Thanks much for posting the pic.Thank you sir! I agree, it's one of my better sessions ever!

Buckinup
08-17-17, 14:46
After the FIRST round? Shit I would have turned her away at the door. LMAO.Yeah, Mr. E usually comes across as one hard customer. I couldn't believe that he didn't do that either.

Mr Enternational
08-17-17, 16:42
The phrase "you get what you pay for" comes to mind. It's not always the case, but in this case it definitely applies. Did she leave her glue and crack pipe outside your door?LOL. When the average monthly wage is $161, $23 for 1 night is nothing to turn your nose up at. That is 1 week's salary. I should have known something was wrong when that broad had her mouth closed on all of her pictures. 10,000 pictures and her mouth was closed on every single one.

Socker
08-17-17, 18:01
Thank you sir! I agree, it's one of my better sessions ever!I forgot to put you handle on my post so I screwed up a bit but glad to see your post here. Yes, that looks like monger heaven if I ever saw it. All 3 of them are showing their lust for that toy, and the real thing.

That one photo proves you have hella skill in this sport.

Cheers.

Vatore007
08-17-17, 20:25
LOL. When the average monthly wage is $161, $23 for 1 night is nothing to turn your nose up at. That is 1 week's salary. I should have known something was wrong when that broad had her mouth closed on all of her pictures. 10,000 pictures and her mouth was closed on every single one.https://colombiareports.com/colombias-average-salary-lower-than-global-average/

The average monthly wage was $692 in 2012, and it must have increased since.

Viajando Musico
08-17-17, 22:31
A quick report, I used the list and map to get a head start. The 1st night I used Linda's chicas. 120 k for an hour. 6 girls to choose from. Decent place with plenty of room. El Centro was the next pursuit. A lot to choose from. A beautiful estafana was there. 30 k, 10 k room (her choice not horrible) probably 30 minutes session. Didn't have a stopwatch. Used Linda's chica again and another good experience.

The name slips my mind but #2. Aims to please. Same 120 k for hour. Then I mess up near the church on de Graff. I was just chatting with a girl when one I had interest in earlier approached. Now they wanted a 3 way of course. 50 k a piece, 60 k for room that was worse than the 10k room a block over. Upsells start immediately for anything. 20 k for tops off. Well time comes for leche so they earned that propina gagging all the way to the bathroom. 100 k a piece before it's over. One worth meeting again but now I've inflated the price. The list of drivers on the pdf was pretty useless as most numbers are outdated. Bucky even hung up when I told him where I got the number. Robert was now a girl number, Hector and Nick also had outdated numbers. Hopefully check out some cases next. Appreciate all the information fellas.

The last time I was in Lindas Chicas (Casa de Piedra) Linda, the owner called and brought in a girl, a young beautiful dyed blond, an 8. 5. She charged me 200 k / HR and asked the girl what she wanted to drink. The girl ordered a whisky (a normal practice I think), so the drink was automatically added to my tab to a total of 280 K when I checked out. 120 K sounds low to me. Did she ask the chica if she wanted drinks? Linda has a few girls live at the premises and can call in a lot more. It looks like she has access to a long list of available chicas outside. I never returned because of the price of the chicas and the drinks that was added to my tab. But for 120 K an hour, I would consider a return visit.

PaisaPorFavor
08-18-17, 01:03
I can't be sure it's the same. It is on calle 45 g.

Didn't pressure me for drinks. I had to ask for a beer before a second pop. Also saw that long list mentioned but only 6 girls on offer. Oral al natural is included if desired so no extra propina. She wouldn't send the girl to my apartment the 1st time but after that It was fine. Also the girl stayed tln on her own without asking for more money. (Except taxi) so was 170,000 for a great time. Obviously mileage will vary but I have been satisfied. Also for those who say Centro is not dangerous are crazy. 2 people robbed at gunpoint and I saw a chica almost beat to death last night while everyone stood and watched.


The last time I was in Lindas Chicas (Casa de Piedra) Linda, the owner called and brought in a girl, a young beautiful dyed blond, an 8. 5. She charged me 200 k / HR and asked the girl what she wanted to drink. The girl ordered a whisky (a normal practice I think), so the drink was automatically added to my tab to a total of 280 K when I checked out. 120 K sounds low to me. Did she ask the chica if she wanted drinks? Linda has a few girls live at the premises and can call in a lot more. It looks like she has access to a long list of available chicas outside. I never returned because of the price of the chicas and the drinks that was added to my tab. But for 120 K an hour, I would consider a return visit.

Queens35
08-18-17, 01:21
LOL. When the average monthly wage is $161, $23 for 1 night is nothing to turn your nose up at. That is 1 week's salary. I should have known something was wrong when that broad had her mouth closed on all of her pictures. 10,000 pictures and her mouth was closed on every single one.Nice try, but a minimum wage worker makes closer to $23 for 2 days rather than per week. And they don't have to suck gringo cock.

Wolf662
08-18-17, 01:42
https://colombiareports.com/colombias-average-salary-lower-than-global-average/

The average monthly wage was $692 in 2012, and it must have increased since.I believe he is talking about the Philippines.

Queens35
08-18-17, 01:43
https://colombiareports.com/colombias-average-salary-lower-than-global-average/

The average monthly wage was $692 in 2012, and it must have increased since.That may be the average salary. But most hookers don't have the skills to make more than minimum wage, which in 2017, it's about 800,000 COP, which is about $270.

Blue Touch
08-18-17, 01:43
The calculation sounds right.


Nice try, but a minimum wage worker makes closer to $23 for 2 days rather than per week. And they don't have to suck gringo cock.

Wolf662
08-18-17, 01:45
I can't be sure it's the same. It is on calle 45 g.Linda Chicas is Calle 58#50 a54 (alongside Ave Oriental).

Mr Enternational
08-18-17, 03:55
Nice try, but a minimum wage worker makes closer to $23 for 2 days rather than per week. And they don't have to suck gringo cock.I think you and Vatore missed the part when I said this happened in the Philippines.

Queens35
08-18-17, 04:03
I think you and Vatore missed the part when I said this happened in the Philippines.Gosh, how could we have assumed it was Colombia? Stupid us.

JjBee62
08-18-17, 06:21
Gosh, how could we have assumed it was Colombia? Stupid us.In his defense, he did clearly state in the original post that it was in the Philippines. It just got lost in all the quotes.

Balboa
08-18-17, 06:41
Quick trip report, just getting back from Medellin for a week.

Hit all the normal spots in Centro; casas, strip clubs, the street.

I found the casas as always, hit and miss.

If you have the patience and visit a bunch, you'll eventually find something you like, and occasionally something you really like.

The street is an interesting walk, seeing mostly scags, glue sniffers, and street urchins, though again, you can find some good keepers.

Most definitely keep your eye out for bad dudes lurking, they are definitely out there, especially at night, and even more so after like 10 pm.

I found and absolute diamond, 18 year old, out there a couple visits ago, we've now become amigovios, and we just meet up at nicer motels for fun.

I bring her some gifts from the US and a little cash, and the total GFE is on.

The strip clubs in Centro were great this trip!

Mostly because I met 2 keepers, both beautiful and sexy, and also very sweet.

One in particular I Ubered over to my place twice for maybe the best love making sex ever, for me.

I'm in Brazil a lot, and always rate the Brazileiras a bit above the Colombianas, for performance, in general.

This particular girl though, rocked me. Not a Paisa, but a Calea, just awesome.

Stopped by the Mansion a couple times, the usual, a few hot chicas, a few fatties, and a few over-macho guys, showing how they're the man, LOL.

I like the place, great for newbies, or guys that want to be spoon fed, and that's all cool if that's what ya want.

I generally find the girls there, over-gringoed, meaning they've been around enough, and just don't have the sweetness anymore, but not bad.

Anyway, great trip.

Actually heading back for a quick visit soon to hook up with my favorite I met at the strip club, and my street diamond.

Happy hunting.

Sho423
08-18-17, 19:10
I'd say 8's & 9's. For some 10's I'd say see the Colombian women in the 1st 40 seconds of the video on this page-upper right corner in a browser, half way down the page on a cel- the vid is a good intro to the MDE adult scene also for 1st timers anyway, although the prices are a little high since it was made before the peso dropped:

http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/What was the high class casa did the guy say in the video at 07:50? Lutra?

PaisaPorFavor
08-18-17, 19:36
Linda Chicas is Calle 58#50 a54 (alongside Ave Oriental).They also go by Linda's chicas.

Fun Luvr
08-18-17, 19:50
What was the high class casa did the guy say in the video at 07:50? Lutra?I think it is Loutron. http://loutron.co/medellin/#gallery

KentJones
08-18-17, 20:25
I will be arriving in Medellin after a 4 night stay in Bogota. I plan to be in MDE from August 28th until the morning of September 4th. If anyone is in town and willing to show a newbie the ropes PM me or reply- the first round is on me.

Of course there will be a trip report afterwards.

Vatore007
08-18-17, 20:31
I think it is Loutron. http://loutron.co/medellin/#galleryI was there, like 10 years ago, they had a nice selection, very diverse, I scored a solid 9, I would say a 10 but guys on here are jaded, so I'll try to score by them, but hot girls by any standard because they had all types. It was $90 back then but with today's exchange rate, probably much less like 60 ish if my math is right, unless they increased the price, which they must have by now.

Vatore007
08-18-17, 20:33
I think you and Vatore missed the part when I said this happened in the Philippines.I know I missed that part!

Wolf662
08-18-17, 21:32
What was the high class casa did the guy say in the video at 07:50? Lutra?Loutron Spa.

Calle 16 a#9 e-500.

M-W 12-10.

T / F 12-11.

Sat 12-8.

A little tricky to find, look for that big gate while going up the hill on the right.

Vatore007
08-19-17, 01:03
Let me try again.I'm talking to some of those girls as well, what did they quote you? I've been told 1.000.000 pesos so far.

Jorgen50
08-19-17, 01:36
Minimum wage in Medellin is 747 000 pesos per month, with transportation allowance 820000 per month. The work week is 6 days so 48 hour weeks is the norm. Around 50% of employees in Medellin are paid minimum wage only.

I walked by Abydos on Avenida 33 and the place is for rent. That was one of the more upscale locations. I called their phone number but no answer. The same owner also owns / owned other upscale locations.

Mogwai
08-19-17, 02:13
LOL. When the average monthly wage is $161, $23 for 1 night is nothing to turn your nose up at. That is 1 week's salary. I should have known something was wrong when that broad had her mouth closed on all of her pictures. 10,000 pictures and her mouth was closed on every single one.Hey, that's odd:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=2037830&viewfull=1#post2037830.
Look for post #20399.

Mr Enternational
08-19-17, 03:42
Hey, that's odd:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=2037830&viewfull=1#post2037830.
Look for post #20399.What's odd about it? Her mouth is closed on those pics as well.

Wolf662
08-19-17, 04:23
I'm talking to some of those girls as well, what did they quote you? I've been told 1.000.000 pesos so far.Ouch, I PM'ed about a dozen of them before my 1st trip back in Feb, got amounts from 200 k up to 6 million! Did two dates at the 300 k for TLN, ended up liking the redhead Sofie, will be seeing her again when I am in town in Sept. The other girl was heavier then her pics, did coke and was kinda a wacko.

Pics: redhead, cool chick Sofie, wacko Malejaea and the 6 million girl (who I thought was hot but not $2,000 hot. LOL).

Sho423
08-19-17, 06:54
I was there, like 10 years ago, they had a nice selection, very diverse, I scored a solid 9, I would say a 10 but guys on here are jaded, so I'll try to score by them, but hot girls by any standard because they had all types. It was $90 back then but with today's exchange rate, probably much less like 60 ish if my math is right, unless they increased the price, which they must have by now.Oh nice! How many girls were working at the time you were there?

Vitrea
08-19-17, 07:05
I was there, like 10 years ago, they had a nice selection, very diverse, I scored a solid 9, I would say a 10 but guys on here are jaded, so I'll try to score by them, but hot girls by any standard because they had all types. It was $90 back then but with today's exchange rate, probably much less like 60 ish if my math is right, unless they increased the price, which they must have by now.It went to shit (from my point of you) since then. Last time I went, six months back, it was all older and silicone. I hated it. Before they had some natural girl selection. Caters to higher strata Colombians, who are lot wealthier than the average tourist. That crowd apparently prefers silicone.

Mogwai
08-19-17, 08:28
What's odd about it? Her mouth is closed on those pics as well.I quote from your original post:

"Just this past May I met a chick on a chat app and had her come over for all night $23. Well when she got there she was not to my liking. Her feet were all dirty, teeth messed up, and breath smelled terrible. I had no problem turning her loose with full payment after the first round. That was only $23. No way I would take that risk with $200 at stake."

You say you turned her loose after the first round but the other pics show you took her out for dinner.

Nuupter
08-19-17, 09:36
Have been putting off on going to Medellin for some time. I decided I should just go and see if Medellin is my type. But by checking for availabilities in the mansion. It seems like it's going to be full till September 10. I would like to go earlier than that, but my Spanish is non existent. Anyone think it's best if I go when the mansion frees up or just plunge in like I did when I went to FKK? I have been looking at photo galleries in another similar website with the pictures of some girls like case did etc, but find most of them not to my taste. But when looking at Luna luneras insta photos. I find those girls very hot. Can't see the face though. I have also been contemplating between Medellin and Sao Paulo, one day I will go to the other one. But would really like to see the scene in Medellin.Have also been friending girls on facebook,fyi a 10 for me would be like jynx maze look, Megan Salinas and the body type of harley dean.dont necessarily have to be dark skin or fair.Any advice would help. Thanks.

Balboa
08-19-17, 10:42
I quote from your original post:

"Just this past May I met a chick on a chat app and had her come over for all night $23. Well when she got there she was not to my liking. Her feet were all dirty, teeth messed up, and breath smelled terrible. I had no problem turning her loose with full payment after the first round. That was only $23. No way I would take that risk with $200 at stake."

You say you turned her loose after the first round but the other pics show you took her out for dinner.Really? You really care about that?

YippieKayay
08-19-17, 12:30
Have been putting off on going to Medellin for some time. I decided I should just go and see if Medellin is my type. But by checking for availabilities in the mansion. It seems like it's going to be full till September 10. I would like to go earlier than that, but my Spanish is non existent. Anyone think it's best if I go when the mansion frees up or just plunge in like I did when I went to FKK? I have been looking at photo galleries in another similar website with the pictures of some girls like case did etc, but find most of them not to my taste. But when looking at Luna luneras insta photos. I find those girls very hot. Can't see the face though. I have also been contemplating between Medellin and Sao Paulo, one day I will go to the other one. But would really like to see the scene in Medellin.Have also been friending girls on facebook,fyi a 10 for me would be like jynx maze look, Megan Salinas and the body type of harley dean.dont necessarily have to be dark skin or fair.Any advice would help. Thanks.I plunged. I started with Panama though and my Spanish was passable by the time I got to Medellin. Isn't Luna Luneras a strip club? They tend to be clip joints in Colombia. Sao Paolo is great. More expensive but the brothels tend to be well run. I highly recommend the brothel at Tangara. The night clubs with hookers fall on the clip joint side. Lots of little scams the garotas will pull so you need to be careful.

Mr Enternational
08-19-17, 14:37
I quote from your original post:

"Just this past May I met a chick on a chat app and had her come over for all night $23. Well when she got there she was not to my liking. Her feet were all dirty, teeth messed up, and breath smelled terrible. I had no problem turning her loose with full payment after the first round. That was only $23. No way I would take that risk with $200 at stake."

You say you turned her loose after the first round but the other pics show you took her out for dinner.Negative Ghost Rider. You are overthinking the shit. Or maybe you are just learning to read. My post that you tried to direct everyone to for god knows what reason said, 'Thanks to my girlfriend I just spent a fortune on some nasty ass garlicy, fatty, saucy Filipino food. That shit will not be happening again. We could have eaten at Dad's at these prices. Time to send her home; my wechat is blowing up!"

Translation: I went to dinner with my girlfriend. My girlfriend went home and the chick that kept sending me messages on wechat (the chick in the pictures) came over. Why the hell would I post pictures of my girlfriend on ISG? Why the hell would I call a chick I just met my girlfriend? As Balboa was asking, what is the point of your post anyway? What did any of that have to do with the original point of not inviting a chick that you have never laid eyes on to stay with you for all night?

Hasideas Tao
08-19-17, 14:53
This owner of this place is notorious for being pushy, tricky and making the prices up for drinks and girls according to her mood which literally changes by the second. I find her (Nancy) nearly impossible to deal with. However, you stated 120 k / hour. Are you sure? Last time I went, I walked out realizing I had just paid for a drink for a girl that I was going to take upstairs but did not because the "negotiations" with Nancy just killed the whole mood for me. As far as I know, the girl never even got the drink. In fact I am sure she didn't!


A quick report, I used the list and map to get a head start. The 1st night I used Linda's chicas. 120 k for an hour. 6 girls to choose from. Decent place with plenty of room. El Centro was the next pursuit. A lot to choose from. A beautiful estafana was there. 30 k, 10 k room (her choice not horrible) probably 30 minutes session. Didn't have a stopwatch. Used Linda's chica again and another good experience.

The name slips my mind but #2. Aims to please. Same 120 k for hour. Then I mess up near the church on de Graff. I was just chatting with a girl when one I had interest in earlier approached. Now they wanted a 3 way of course. 50 k a piece, 60 k for room that was worse than the 10k room a block over. Upsells start immediately for anything. 20 k for tops off. Well time comes for leche so they earned that propina gagging all the way to the bathroom. 100 k a piece before it's over. One worth meeting again but now I've inflated the price. The list of drivers on the pdf was pretty useless as most numbers are outdated. Bucky even hung up when I told him where I got the number. Robert was now a girl number, Hector and Nick also had outdated numbers. Hopefully check out some cases next. Appreciate all the information fellas.

Fun Luvr
08-19-17, 16:06
Have been putting off on going to Medellin for some time. I decided I should just go and see if Medellin is my type. But by checking for availabilities in the mansion. It seems like it's going to be full till September 10. I would like to go earlier than that, but my Spanish is non existent. Anyone think it's best if I go when the mansion frees up or just plunge in like I did when I went to FKK?September 10 is only three weeks away. If you wait until you can get a room at the Mansion, just a word of warning: you will not see the typical Medellin chicas at the Mansion. Very few at the Mansion are above average, many below. If you have made some FB contacts, you should go and not worry about your lack of Spanish. It is awkward, but you can use a translate app to communicate with the chicas. The obstacle you may face because of the short time, is finding a place to stay that you can verify accepts chicas. If you can arrange the flight and a room or apartment before the Mansion is available, you should take the plunge. There are many beautiful women in Medellin who are waiting to have a good time with you, for just a little money in return.

JjBee62
08-19-17, 16:53
Have been putting off on going to Medellin for some time. I decided I should just go and see if Medellin is my type. But by checking for availabilities in the mansion. It seems like it's going to be full till September 10. I would like to go earlier than that, but my Spanish is non existent. Anyone think it's best if I go when the mansion frees up or just plunge in like I did when I went to FKK? I have been looking at photo galleries in another similar website with the pictures of some girls like case did etc, but find most of them not to my taste. But when looking at Luna luneras insta photos. I find those girls very hot. Can't see the face though. I have also been contemplating between Medellin and Sao Paulo, one day I will go to the other one. But would really like to see the scene in Medellin.Have also been friending girls on facebook,fyi a 10 for me would be like jynx maze look, Megan Salinas and the body type of harley dean.dont necessarily have to be dark skin or fair.Any advice would help. Thanks.It depends on 2 things. Can you deal with repeating this statement several times a day "No hablo español", every time you need something? Taxis and restaurants and possibly your hotel will be the biggest issues. You'll need to point at the menu a lot. It can lead to frustration. You can use Google translate some times.

The other thing, how well do you take advice? My first mongering trip was to the DR and I did lots of research and asked for and got a lot of good advice. Then I decided I knew a better way. It took me 6 hours to realize my plan would be a complete disaster and very expensive. Ended up with only 1 wasted day and only about $200 wasted, before I followed the advice of the experts. The rest of the trip was great.

The advantage of the Mansion is you don't need to do anything. There will be an experienced guest there with enough Spanish to help you out. Between all the guests you'll probably have a good trip.

If you don't want to wait, you can still do it. Download the Medellin casa map and the pdf file of casa locations. Do your research. For casas, New Life is probably your best bet. Cost for 30 minutes is 50,000 COP. You pay after and get charged for the total time in 15 minute increments. You can spend a full hour and still be cheaper than a mansion girl.

The other best option is Energy Spa, 140,000 COP per hour.

Strip clubs are mostly a night time endeavour. Fase Dos is your best choice. Don't expect it to be great until late. Price is 190 k plus drinks. The El Centro clubs can have some gems, but the rooms are. Let's just say whatever you're laying on has been laid on many times since it last was washed. Many casas also don't bother changing sheets.

If you find a place that's chica friendly, you can bring back girls. You can find some good, expensive offerings in Parque Lleras, especially after midnight. Many will ask for crazy amounts. Stick to your guns and they will come down. Cien y cincuenta mil (150 k) to doscientos mil (200 k) is the real price. If your room isn't chica friendly, there are short time options. Most expensive is probably Motel Ibiza. Super nice rooms, but can cost up to 100 k at peak times. Most girls and taxi drivers know a place you can go.

On Friday and Saturday nights Jenson's bar hosts a party for mongers. There's a cover charge which covers the cost of giving taxi fares to girls to show up. You'll meet several gringo locals and after 9 pm there will be available girls there. Price for most is around 150 k. First one, I counted 21 different girls. Jenson's is just a short walk from the middle of Parque Lleras.

I'm usually available during the day or Sunday and Monday nights. PM me advance notice and I'll go with you to pop your cherry, or help you figure out how to order food.

One little warning. Just recently I was approached by 2 girls in Parque Lleras. They were obviously together and 1 was more forward than is usual. They both looked young, but one looked like a tranny to me. My gut said something was wrong and I wasn't hunting that night, so I got away from them. Maybe 1 was a tranny, maybe one was too young. Maybe they are thieves or are working with the police. Or maybe I missed a good thing. The thing that seemed way off was when she said "see'Mon. Sucky, sucky" after I wasn't interested. I haven't heard anything that direct from a Colombiana before.

Be safe and have fun.

Vatore007
08-19-17, 23:02
Ouch, I PM'ed about a dozen of them before my 1st trip back in Feb, got amounts from 200 k up to 6 million! Did two dates at the 300 k for TLN, ended up liking the redhead Sofie, will be seeing her again when I am in town in Sept. The other girl was heavier then her pics, did coke and was kinda a wacko.

Pics: redhead, cool chick Sofie, wacko Malejaea and the 6 million girl (who I thought was hot but not $2,000 hot. LOL).The girl with the tattoo on her right shoulder, name starts with a Ka- she told me a million pesos, what did she tell you?

Nuupter
08-20-17, 00:29
It depends on 2 things. Can you deal with repeating this statement several times a day "No hablo espaol", every time you need something? Taxis and restaurants and possibly your hotel will be the biggest issues. You'll need to point at the menu a lot. It can lead to frustration. You can use Google translate some times.

The other thing, how well do you take advice? My first mongering trip was to the DR and I did lots of research and asked for and got a lot of good advice. Then I decided I knew a better way. It took me 6 hours to realize my plan would be a complete disaster and very expensive. Ended up with only 1 wasted day and only about $200 wasted, before I followed the advice of the experts. The rest of the trip was great.

The advantage of the Mansion is you don't need to do anything. There will be an experienced guest there with enough Spanish to help you out. Between all the guests you'll probably have a good trip.


Be safe and have fun.Actually I can understand some spanish, meaning I can read off of menu and figure what is that, but can't actually understand people speaking spanish as it may be too fast or I can't catch the word, I learned spanish half way long time ago, and just decided not to go on. So it has became nonexistant. As to listening to advice, my first was in Germany so all I did was read the forum and go to Germany, and also I research alot before doing anything like deciding between medellin or sao paulo. Thank you very much jjbee, I also contacted a few facebook ladies and got their whatsapp number, and I have that map in my phone when I first wanted to go a few months ago. So I practically got everything covered.

PaisaPorFavor
08-20-17, 00:54
Scammer alert for a morena who was going by Milan. In the room with here when someone else knocks. She let's a girl in to use the restroom. Then demands payment from me. I insisted after only. She leaves the room then the girl she let in for the bathroom starts screaming her phone is stolen. I told her it was the girl and took off to nearest taxi. Time to try something new.

Wolf662
08-20-17, 01:03
The girl with the tattoo on her right shoulder, name starts with a Ka- she told me a million pesos, what did she tell you?Do you mean one of the 3 girls I just posted pics of or one of the girls I posted pics of back in Feb?

(and as far as I know none had a name staring with K, at least not in their SA profile).

YippieKayay
08-20-17, 01:45
Actually I can understand some spanish, meaning I can read off of menu and figure what is that, but can't actually understand people speaking spanish as it may be too fast or I can't catch the word, I learned spanish half way long time ago, and just decided not to go on. So it has became nonexistant. As to listening to advice, my first was in Germany so all I did was read the forum and go to Germany, and also I research alot before doing anything like deciding between medellin or sao paulo. Thank you very much jjbee, I also contacted a few facebook ladies and got their whatsapp number, and I have that map in my phone when I first wanted to go a few months ago. So I practically got everything covered."habla despacito conmigo soy extranjero" will get people to slow down when they talk to you and even make them laugh a little.

Knowledge
08-20-17, 01:53
This is all about me. I'm astonished anyone would schedule their visit to a major city based on the availability of a room at any single hotel or whatever the mansion is. I just don't get it. It's me.


Have been putting off on going to Medellin for some time. I decided I should just go and see if Medellin is my type. But by checking for availabilities in the mansion. It seems like it's going to be full till September 10. I would like to go earlier than that, but my Spanish is non existent. Anyone think it's best if I go when the mansion frees up or just plunge in like I did when I went to FKK? I have been looking at photo galleries in another similar website with the pictures of some girls like case did etc, but find most of them not to my taste. But when looking at Luna luneras insta photos. I find those girls very hot. Can't see the face though. I have also been contemplating between Medellin and Sao Paulo, one day I will go to the other one. But would really like to see the scene in Medellin.Have also been friending girls on facebook,fyi a 10 for me would be like jynx maze look, Megan Salinas and the body type of harley dean.dont necessarily have to be dark skin or fair.Any advice would help. Thanks.

Mogwai
08-20-17, 02:42
Negative Ghost Rider. You are overthinking the shit. Or maybe you are just learning to read. My post that you tried to direct everyone to for god knows what reason said, 'Thanks to my girlfriend I just spent a fortune on some nasty ass garlicy, fatty, saucy Filipino food. That shit will not be happening again. We could have eaten at Dad's at these prices. Time to send her home; my wechat is blowing up!"

Translation: I went to dinner with my girlfriend. My girlfriend went home and the chick that kept sending me messages on wechat (the chick in the pictures) came over. Why the hell would I post pictures of my girlfriend on ISG? Why the hell would I call a chick I just met my girlfriend? As Balboa was asking, what is the point of your post anyway? What did any of that have to do with the original point of not inviting a chick that you have never laid eyes on to stay with you for all night?Ah ok, I thought the chick in the pictures was the girlfriend you were talking about and you were using the word 'girlfriend' as a euphemism for hooker.

I understand completely that you would never post pictures of your 'real' girlfriend on ISG. However it seems to be OK for you to post pictures of a hooker without blurring her face. But I know what you're going to say now: because she's just a hooker.

By the way: I know this chick. I've had a session with her about a year ago. She had indeed bad teeth which was a turnoff (no dirty feet or bad breath as far as I can recall) but she was a very nice girl. Didn't repeat her though.

GreenBud
08-20-17, 09:30
Can you deal with repeating this statement several times a day "No hablo espaol", every time you need something?Yes. I have limited knowledge of Spanish. But I still like Colombia.


Taxis and restaurants and possibly your hotel will be the biggest issues. You'll need to point at the menu a lot. It can lead to frustration. You can use Google translate some times.Taxis: I use Uber. But I still say "No hablo espanol". Many Uber drivers are lame. They call me asking me where I am at or ask me how to get to my destination, I think. Geez! All that information is in the Uber app. But Uber works. I use it all the time.

Restaurants: The name of the meal usually doesn't translate using Google translate. It seems the name of the dish is not a proper Spanish word. You have to use the translator on the description of the dish.

I point a lot. It works.

I get frustrated, but since I have the money, they (the waiter and girls) are patient. Everything works out.


Download the Medellin casa map and the pdf file of casa locations. Do your research.I did that. I have the Medellin map and the PDF file. Fantastic info! That's all you really need. I might not have come without all that info. With Uber and the addresses from those files, everything is easy.


Many casas also don't bother changing sheets.My friend who owns a short time guesthouse in Cambodia changes his sheets every 2 days.


On Friday and Saturday nights Jenson's bar hosts a party for mongers. There's a cover charge which covers the cost of giving taxi fares to girls to show up. You'll meet several gringo locals and after 9 pm there will be available girls there. Price for most is around 150 k. First one, I counted 21 different girls. Jenson's is just a short walk from the middle of Parque Lleras.I walked over there this Saturday. At 9:10 PM, there were about 2 girls on the second floor. Never went in. At 10:30 PM, didn't see any girls. Do girls start coming in at midnight? I was at Gusto at 11:30. Not that crowded. There were some freelancers. Then around midnight, people started to come in. Many people came in bringing in their dates. I also saw a group of backpacker types come in. I didn't really like the scene at Gusto.

JjBee62
08-20-17, 13:34
I walked over there this Saturday. At 9:10 PM, there were about 2 girls on the second floor. Never went in. At 10:30 PM, didn't see any girls. Do girls start coming in at midnight? I was at Gusto at 11:30. Not that crowded. There were some freelancers. Then around midnight, people started to come in. Many people came in bringing in their dates. I also saw a group of backpacker types come in. I didn't really like the scene at Gusto.Last night was a poor showing at Jenson's. The girls you saw were probably the waitresses. One girl showed around 10 pm, but sat at the bar hidden from most of the guys. I'm probably the only one who saw her. 15 minutes later she was gone. 2 girls did show up around 11. Then about midnight a group of 4 showed, but I think they were looking for a sucker to pay for their night out.

Of the girls that showed, both looked good to me. I was lined up to take 1, because the other had spent her time talking with another guy. When he left alone, she joined our group. Another guy was interested in the one I had planned to pull. To me either was a good choice, so I swapped. Left with her around 12:30. No complaints from me.

Might have been slow because of whatever the holiday is. The rain and cool weather probably didn't help much.

Jenson's is going to be hit or miss for awhile. The girls show if the guys are there. The guys show up if the girls are there. It's like a junior high dance, where nobody wants to be first on the dance floor. I go when I can. Worst case, I meet a few decent guys and talk with the waitresses, then head elsewhere. Best case, I take a girl and help to convince her it's worth coming back and bringing some friends.

Wolf662
08-20-17, 15:21
Isn't Luna Luneras a strip club? They tend to be clip joints in Colombia.I assume you mean the higher end Gringo oriented ones like Fase II and Las Islas etc, because I find the Centro clubs to be a good deal, no cover, cheap drinks, reasonable fees and enough cute women. YMMV.

MedellinGringo
08-20-17, 19:08
I assume you mean the higher end Gringo oriented ones like Fase II and Las Islas etc,.Gringo oriented?

I have gone to Fase 2 and La Isla numerous times.

And each time, I was the only gringo in the place.

Nothing Gringo oriented about those places except the prices that average gringo is more likely to be able to afford compared to the average Colombiano.

Balboa
08-20-17, 20:03
Gringo oriented?

I have gone to Fase 2 and La Isla numerous times.

And each time, I was the only gringo in the place.

Nothing Gringo oriented about those places except the prices that average gringo is more likely to be able to afford compared to the average Colombiano.I've been going to Fase 2 for over 15 years, I've seen many gringos in there.

Doesn't mean it's gringo oriented, just more of a gringo type hangout than the Centro clubs, in terms of more upscale.

Wolf662
08-20-17, 21:09
Scammer alert for a morena who was going by Milan. In the room with here when someone else knocks. She let's a girl in to use the restroom. Then demands payment from me. I insisted after only. She leaves the room then the girl she let in for the bathroom starts screaming her phone is stolen. I told her it was the girl and took off to nearest taxi. Time to try something new.A behind Vera Cruz Church girl or a Raudel block girl?

I have always paid up front with those girls, so far about a dozen times with no problems. Not much to risk, $10 to $15. Hmmmm. So she took off after you wouldn't pay her up front or what? And why would bathroom girl leave her phone out in the room with 2 other people. Strange, wonder if one or both of them was trying to set you up or if the 1st girl thought she was stealing your phone because you wouldn't pay or what?

GreenBud
08-21-17, 00:05
For casas, New Life is probably your best bet. Cost for 30 minutes is 50,000 COP. You pay after and get charged for the total time in 15 minute increments.I like New Life.

The entrance was initially strange for me. It's a door that leads upstairs, but there wasn't a doorman hawking the place. I thought maybe the place was closed. Luckily, 4 guys just came up and I followed them.

I thought the lineup was decent. In my scale (I have a tough scale), a few girls were 6's. I prefer a 6 that does everything, rather than a 10 that doesn't do much. 2 of the 4 girls I had wanted 50 K COP tip to do BBBJ.

I like the rooms. It seemed cleaner than all the other places I've experienced. It seems all the rooms had a bathroom and shower, with towels. It had colored bed sheets; hence you can't see the cum and spit stains, so it's not as disgusting since you can't see it. LOL!

I like that you pay afterwards; hence you don't have to state how much time you want at the beginning. If you finish early, you pay less. If you take more time than normal, you get a discount on the hour pricing.

Rodeo9112
08-21-17, 00:21
Lots of little scams the garotas will pull so you need to be careful. Ha ha ha, you said Garotas! Viva Brazil!

GreenBud
08-21-17, 00:29
I did 2 quick tours during 2 different days (of course, during the daytime).

Most of the action is on Carrera 53, between Calle 51 & Calle 52.

This scene is not my cup of tea. I didn't pick up, but I like to look. Most of the girls were below average. A few decent ones. The 2 "diamonds in the rough" I saw were of dubious age. I guess that's the way it goes.

I didn't see any police walking on Carrera 53. There are many police on the other side at Botero Plaza, where the "normal" people are.

Hint: If you don't want to walk in that area, you can buy a ticket to Museo de Antioquia. It was 18 K COP foreign entrance fee. It has a nice Botero wing (the guy that paints fat people / animals). Then from there you can go to a patio on the outside at the corner, and look at part of the street scene from the comfort of the museum's security. It was an interesting scene. I saw a SW dry humping a potential customer, a SW sniffing glue. Very interesting.

Wolf662
08-21-17, 01:13
I did 2 quick tours during 2 different days (of course, during the daytime).
Most of the action is on Carrera 53, between Calle 51 & Calle 52.
This scene is not my cup of tea. I didn't pick up, but I like to look. Most of the girls were below average. A few decent ones. The 2 "diamonds in the rough" I saw were of dubious age. I guess that's the way it goes.
I didn't see any police walking on Carrera 53. There are many police on the other side at Botero Plaza, where the "normal" people are.Yeah I usually do several laps at different times (day only) to find somebody but my hotel is close enough. And I card the young looking ones. I've never seen cops there also although they do sometimes stand on the corner of carr 53 and calle 52. I suspect they know that blocks smells like paperwork. LOL.

LVMonger
08-21-17, 01:36
One little warning. Just recently I was approached by 2 girls in Parque Lleras. They were obviously together and 1 was more forward than is usual. They both looked young, but one looked like a tranny to me. My gut said something was wrong and I wasn't hunting that night, so I got away from them. Maybe 1 was a tranny, maybe one was too young. Maybe they are thieves or are working with the police. Or maybe I missed a good thing. The thing that seemed way off was when she said "see'Mon. Sucky, sucky" after I wasn't interested. I haven't heard anything that direct from a Colombiana before.True wisdom! Perhaps not LE, however it sound like some sort of a "set up". There are many different scenarios where that could have gone wrong for you. Trust your instincts, live to play another day.

Chicafan
08-21-17, 05:22
Have been putting off on going to Medellin for some time. I decided I should just go and see if Medellin is my type. But by checking for availabilities in the mansion. It seems like it's going to be full till September 10. I would like to go earlier than that, but my Spanish is non existent. Anyone think it's best if I go when the mansion frees up or just plunge in like I did when I went to FKK? I have been looking at photo galleries in another similar website with the pictures of some girls like case did etc, but find most of them not to my taste. But when looking at Luna luneras insta photos. I find those girls very hot. Can't see the face though. I have also been contemplating between Medellin and Sao Paulo, one day I will go to the other one. But would really like to see the scene in Medellin.Have also been friending girls on facebook,fyi a 10 for me would be like jynx maze look, Megan Salinas and the body type of harley dean.dont necessarily have to be dark skin or fair.Any advice would help. Thanks.You can find a world of girls in MDE without staying at the mansion. But, I recommend it for a first trip. It's already August 20th, what's another 20 days?

PaisaPorFavor
08-21-17, 06:33
To be honest I would have paid but it was her demeanor. Theb she stole pissing girls phone. A mess for sure. She needed that next hit it was in her eyes. But those titties.


A behind Vera Cruz Church girl or a Raudel block girl?

I have always paid up front with those girls, so far about a dozen times with no problems. Not much to risk, $10 to $15. Hmmmm. So she took off after you wouldn't pay her up front or what? And why would bathroom girl leave her phone out in the room with 2 other people. Strange, wonder if one or both of them was trying to set you up or if the 1st girl thought she was stealing your phone because you wouldn't pay or what?

Gianfranco8725
08-21-17, 11:51
A behind Vera Cruz Church girl or a Raudel block girl?

I have always paid up front with those girls, so far about a dozen times with no problems. Not much to risk, $10 to $15. Hmmmm. So she took off after you wouldn't pay her up front or what? And why would bathroom girl leave her phone out in the room with 2 other people. Strange, wonder if one or both of them was trying to set you up or if the 1st girl thought she was stealing your phone because you wouldn't pay or what?Thanks wolf for your girl pics.

I'm planning to go to Colombia for a get away.

Do you have videos of the girls?

Thanks.

Queens35
08-21-17, 19:27
Hint: If you don't want to walk in that area, you can buy a ticket to Museo de Antioquia. It was 18 K COP foreign entrance fee. It has a nice Botero wing (the guy that paints fat people / animals). Then from there you can go to a patio on the outside at the corner, and look at part of the street scene from the comfort of the museum's security. It was an interesting scene. I saw a SW dry humping a potential customer, a SW sniffing glue. Very interesting.I agree that the SW scene is probably not for anybody who needs the security of the museum patio to check it out.

Wolf662
08-21-17, 19:40
Thanks wolf for your girl pics.
I'm planning to go to Colombia for a get away.
Do you have videos of the girls?
Thanks.Well I have the G rated clips of the Redlight block girls that I have posted links to before:

(these are only $10 girls so not the best Medellin has to offer. LOL).

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593c68bf13a22

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593d7efb11739

Although the women in this vid was $21: (different block).

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593b50f51674a

ColombiaLover
08-21-17, 23:27
Definitely some doables among the trash! Some of this $10 girls look a lot better than the FB girls and Mansion girls looking for 150 and 200 mil. Encouraging me to get off my lazy ass next time and get back to the streets. Years ago (when it was better) I used to be a regular at Mayorista and had some very good luck there.


Well I have the G rated clips of the Redlight block girls that I have posted links to before:

(these are only $10 girls so not the best Medellin has to offer. LOL).

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593c68bf13a22

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593d7efb11739

Although the women in this vid was $21: (different block).

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593b50f51674a

Canonade
08-21-17, 23:45
Definitely some doables among the trash! Some of this $10 girls look a lot better than the FB girls and Mansion girls looking for 150 and 200 mil. Encouraging me to get off my lazy ass next time and get back to the streets. Years ago (when it was better) I used to be a regular at Mayorista and had some very good luck there.Hahaha you have never been to Colombia.

Blue Touch
08-22-17, 01:23
After the arrest of Jake in El Centro, the police are keeping eyes on gringos in the area and told some gringos to leave the area immediately. Though gringo guys do not know, they really stand out at Botero / Veracruz area.


I agree that the SW scene is probably not for anybody who needs the security of the museum patio to check it out.

Blue Touch
08-22-17, 01:58
I like that you pay afterwards; hence you don't have to state how much time you want at the beginning. If you finish early, you pay less. If you take more time than normal, you get a discount on the hour pricing.They do it because girls can prolong the session through chat, shower, etc, and charge you more. In other casas, you can pay for hh first, and then you can extend to an hour and pay the difference.

Wolf662
08-22-17, 04:02
Hahaha you have never been to Colombia.As usual, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

And some of those girls are pretty cute. Ymmv.

Black Page
08-22-17, 12:03
Although the women in this vid was $21: (different block).BTW, it's "RAUDAL", not "Raudel".

Black Page
08-22-17, 12:04
I agree that the SW scene is probably not for anybody who needs the security of the museum patio to check it out.Someone likes a zoo experience... :confused:

PickCherry12
08-22-17, 20:22
Well I have the G rated clips of the Redlight block girls that I have posted links to before:

(these are only $10 girls so not the best Medellin has to offer. LOL).

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593c68bf13a22

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593d7efb11739

Although the women in this vid was $21: (different block).

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593b50f51674aWow, these are the same chicks that come to Lleras at night and charge you ten times more! Knowledge is really the power.

Vatore007
08-22-17, 22:12
After the arrest of Jake in El Centro, the police are keeping eyes on gringos in the area and told some gringos to leave the area immediately. Though gringo guys do not know, they really stand out at Botero / Veracruz area.What are you talking about? What area? I planned on going to Centro in mid Sept, should I not go?

Vatore007
08-22-17, 22:16
Well I have the G rated clips of the Redlight block girls that I have posted links to before:

(these are only $10 girls so not the best Medellin has to offer. LOL).

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593c68bf13a22

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593d7efb11739

Although the women in this vid was $21: (different block).

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593b50f51674aInn the last vid for raudel black, there is a girl with a tremendous ass at 3:20 in the background. Probably too big for most but I want it. What are the chances of me seeing that girl in mid-Sept. ? Do the same chicks stay in the same spot all the time? ANd what corner was that exactly? If you remember.

ColombiaLover
08-23-17, 00:31
For over 11 years. Just never really cared about cruising the streets. Not looking to save money. But might be something fun for a change. Miss the old Mayorista days...when it was a nice change.


Hahaha you have never been to Colombia.

HorneeFalang
08-23-17, 01:59
Well I have the G rated clips of the Redlight block girls that I have posted links to before:

(these are only $10 girls so not the best Medellin has to offer. LOL).

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593c68bf13a22

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593d7efb11739

Although the women in this vid was $21: (different block).

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593b50f51674aOh yessss. This looks just as I imagined. Some decent chassis on those streets. I'm so impressed. I must explore, however flying from Bangkok appears to be a lengthy and rather expensive exercise.

Blue Touch
08-23-17, 03:27
I heard and witnessed that police stopped, questioned, and got rid of some gringos there last year and this year. A few times, I saw the police took gringos to somewhere else, may be their car, I am not sure. I hope they were not arrested. Needless to say these officers are on the local gang's pay roll. They do not do anything for you. They work for the thugs there. Same for the judges. There are some reasons why Mansion is packed all the time. Stay out of trouble and go safe. A diamond in the rough is not a worthy benefit relative to a potential detrimental cost. Certainly there are some reports when some guys were there and had no problem. But when gringos had trouble, they do not report their embarrassment. As for casas in Centro, no problem.


What are you talking about? What area? I planned on going to Centro in mid Sept, should I not go?

Wolf662
08-23-17, 04:27
Inn the last vid for raudel black, there is a girl with a tremendous ass at 3:20 in the background. Probably too big for most but I want it. What are the chances of me seeing that girl in mid-Sept. ? Do the same chicks stay in the same spot all the time? ANd what corner was that exactly? If you remember.I'd say chances were good, that was just back in June and think they work the same areas, that is the NW corner of Carr 54 and Calle 53 (Ave De Greiff).

Wolf662
08-23-17, 04:29
What are you talking about? What area? I planned on going to Centro in mid Sept, should I not go?Well that is one block from a tourist hotspot, Plaza Botero and 2 museums so I really doubt they will be shooing away tourists. I wouldn't go at night.

Blue Touch
08-23-17, 04:33
Effectively, Majorista was not really a place of "street action. " Everything was organized and controlled there. Thieves, punks, etc were removed and / or blocked through various means.


For over 11 years. Just never really cared about cruising the streets. Not looking to save money. But might be something fun for a change. Miss the old Mayorista days...when it was a nice change.

Vatore007
08-23-17, 06:23
If anyone wants to PM me with chica recommendations. Pics, facebook profiles, contact info. I will do the same with what I find during my trip coming Sept. 19th. If you're not interested, you can still send me hot girls to contact.

JennyKk
08-23-17, 14:01
Read tons of posts and planing the trip. Got quote from FB for 300 k or 100 usd for 2 hrs. Kind of high compared to the history. Did I miss something? Should I discuss the specific detail in the messenger or just time and price?

DukesFord
08-23-17, 15:11
Hello everyone,

Thank you for all of your reports, they have been very helpful. I have been to FKKS which were amazing and Tijuana which was a drag. I want to try Colombia and Brazil out so I was considering arriving in Bogota Friday Nov 17 for 3 days leaving Monday Nov 20 to Medellin for 3 days, then to Rio Nov 23 Thursday for 6 days and my final stop Sao Paulo for 6 days. I've been told Rio is best during the week and they have FKK style clubs. I am still a little confused on what to expect in Colombia. It sounds like they have FKK style clubs but smaller or I would have to find a prepaid. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I decided to do this trip after visiting some local strip clubs that have had an influx of Cubans. So sexy compared to the other girls. Should I try and split the days more equally? Less days at Sao Paulo?

DukesFord
08-23-17, 15:16
If it matters I'm a gringo with limited Spanish.

Fun Luvr
08-23-17, 15:51
I heard and witnessed that police stopped, questioned, and got rid of some gringos there last year and this year. A few times, I saw the police took gringos to somewhere else, may be their car, I am not sure. I hope they were not arrested. Needless to say these officers are on the local gang's pay roll. They do not do anything for you. They work for the thugs there. Same for the judges. ...My opinion of the police is very different. I have been to Centro many times, alone, and have never had a problem with the police. They have always been friendly and helpful. I have asked them for directions, and sometimes they walked with me to the place I was looking for.

I don't know what it is, but some people have a tendency to get into trouble. There is a poster on another forum who usually goes to Costa Rica. He has had encounters with the police in San Jose. I think it was his first trip to Medellin, and he was arrested. I have seen gringos in Medellin who I think should have been arrested. When they are disrespectful to the local people and act as if they are better because they may have more money than the locals, they should be dealt with. [Deleted by Admin]

Balboa
08-23-17, 16:14
My opinion of the police is very different. I have been to Centro many times, alone, and have never had a problem with the police. They have always been friendly and helpful. I have asked them for directions, and sometimes they walked with me to the place I was looking for.

I don't know what it is, but some people have a tendency to get into trouble. There is a poster on another forum who usually goes to Costa Rica. He has had encounters with the police in San Jose. I think it was his first trip to Medellin, and he was arrested. I have seen gringos in Medellin who I think should have been arrested. When they are disrespectful to the local people and act as if they are better because they may have more money than the locals, they should be dealt with. Maybe relieving them of some of that money would be helpful.I've had the same experience as you with the police.

One time I got stopped when they were doing ID checks, showed them my Passport card, and it easily satisfied them.

They were curious about the USA, etc, and we got to talking, made new friends.

Funny, they referred to the girls as, "chicas malas, pero buenas", jeje.
They just advised to watch out for the bad guys around, that rob.

Balboa
08-23-17, 16:18
Effectively, Majorista was not really a place of "street action. " Everything was organized and controlled there. Thieves, punks, etc were removed and / or blocked through various means.Yep, that's right, and the girls even had to pay a small fee per night to work there.

All changed now, unfortunately.

The Tall Man
08-23-17, 18:48
After the arrest of Jake in El Centro, the police are keeping eyes on gringos in the area and told some gringos to leave the area immediately. Though gringo guys do not know, they really stand out at Botero / Veracruz area.WHAT! Us gringo guys don't know that we stand out, I am 6'-7" and pushing 300 lbs with light hair and light eyes, hell I stand out when I walk anywhere in Southern California, jajajajaja.

Seriously, even if it was not our height or light eyes or our clothing BUT just the way we walk and our mannerisms makes us stand out.

TTM.

Fun Luvr
08-23-17, 19:58
Read tons of posts and planing the trip. Got quote from FB for 300 k or 100 usd for 2 hrs. Kind of high compared to the history. Did I miss something? Should I discuss the specific detail in the messenger or just time and price?Offer 150 k pesos plus one-way taxi. Don't go over 200 k. If you can agree on a price, then discuss details. I have one long time FB friend who I never had the opportunity to schedule a time with until recently. She told me 300 k plus taxi. I gave her a two-word response "No, gracias". She is still my FB friend, and is very pretty in her photos, but not 300 k pretty.

YippieKayay
08-23-17, 20:13
Read tons of posts and planing the trip. Got quote from FB for 300 k or 100 usd for 2 hrs. Kind of high compared to the history. Did I miss something? Should I discuss the specific detail in the messenger or just time and price?For 2 hours not bad but if you haven't been with this person yet why are you asking for 2 hours? What if they suck in bed or they don't look like the photos in facebook? Ideally you would meet them for a drink and take the discussion from there. They may bring a friend to chaperone that initial meeting.

JennyKk
08-23-17, 21:01
For 2 hours not bad but if you haven't been with this person yet why are you asking for 2 hours? What if they suck in bed or they don't look like the photos in facebook? Ideally you would meet them for a drink and take the discussion from there. They may bring a friend to chaperone that initial meeting.I asked for a quote but didn't mention the time period. I would assume there is bargain room. And for communication, FB messenger really can't get quick response at all. Do I need to switch to whatsapp for further conversation?


Offer 150 k pesos plus one-way taxi. Don't go over 200 k. If you can agree on a price, then discuss details. I have one long time FB friend who I never had the opportunity to schedule a time with until recently. She told me 300 k plus taxi. I gave her a two-word response "No, gracias". She is still my FB friend, and is very pretty in her photos, but not 300 k pretty.Thanks! Just want to know the approximate price structure. 150-200 k for 1 HR seems normal. But for 2 hrs, will there be a decent discount like TLN?

Wolf662
08-23-17, 22:52
Read tons of posts and planing the trip. Got quote from FB for 300 k or 100 usd for 2 hrs. Kind of high compared to the history. Did I miss something? Should I discuss the specific detail in the messenger or just time and price?Ouch, she's trying to jack you IMO, I have a date coming up, someone I have seen before, off SeekingArrangements, asked her to bring a friend for a friend, told her 200 k for a few hours (we are doing dinner, drinks / dancing, then Love hotel w / Jacuzzi) or 300 k for TLN (all night) and she said fine, NP.

I'd offer a price rather then ask one, they are bound to reach for the stars if you ask.

JjBee62
08-23-17, 23:04
I've had the same experience as you with the police.

One time I got stopped when they were doing ID checks, showed them my Passport card, and it easily satisfied them.

They were curious about the USA, etc, and we got to talking, made new friends.

Funny, they referred to the girls as, "chicas malas, pero buenas", jeje.
They just advised to watch out for the bad guys around, that rob.Same here with police. I walk by them daily, although usually not in El Centro, and the most I get is a smile and a nod. The closest encounter was coming back from Centro late one night and the cops stopped our taxi. They glanced in the back seat at me and a buddy and never said a word, just waved us on.

I'm going to rely on my experiences rather than what someone heard.

Vatore007
08-23-17, 23:04
Hello everyone,

Thank you for all of your reports, they have been very helpful. I have been to FKKS which were amazing and Tijuana which was a drag. I want to try Colombia and Brazil out so I was considering arriving in Bogota Friday Nov 17 for 3 days leaving Monday Nov 20 to Medellin for 3 days, then to Rio Nov 23 Thursday for 6 days and my final stop Sao Paulo for 6 days. I've been told Rio is best during the week and they have FKK style clubs. I am still a little confused on what to expect in Colombia. It sounds like they have FKK style clubs but smaller or I would have to find a prepaid. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I decided to do this trip after visiting some local strip clubs that have had an influx of Cubans. So sexy compared to the other girls. Should I try and split the days more equally? Less days at Sao Paulo?Stay at hotel M (The Mansion) for your first time. You are guaranteed to make friends who will help you out, the staff is friendly, and the owners are very helpful.

http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/

Queens35
08-24-17, 00:59
My opinion of the police is very different. I have been to Centro many times, alone, and have never had a problem with the police. They have always been friendly and helpful. I have asked them for directions, and sometimes they walked with me to the place I was looking for.

I don't know what it is, but some people have a tendency to get into trouble. There is a poster on another forum who usually goes to Costa Rica. He has had encounters with the police in San Jose. I think it was his first trip to Medellin, and he was arrested. I have seen gringos in Medellin who I think should have been arrested. When they are disrespectful to the local people and act as if they are better because they may have more money than the locals, they should be dealt with. Maybe relieving them of some of that money would be helpful.+1.

I have never had any negative encounters in Colombia or Costa Rica over more than 30 trips. But I'm respectful, don't walk around drunk or loud, or act like a typical douschebag gringo.

Queens35
08-24-17, 01:08
Offer 150 k pesos plus one-way taxi. Don't go over 200 k. If you can agree on a price, then discuss details. I have one long time FB friend who I never had the opportunity to schedule a time with until recently. She told me 300 k plus taxi. I gave her a two-word response "No, gracias". She is still my FB friend, and is very pretty in her photos, but not 300 k pretty.Again, good advice.

Offer 150 k for a session. Forget talking about time, there's no clock punching unless you go to an MP. Any indy who quotes by the hour will usually rush you. Remember, to many of them, 1 hour = 1 shot. If you shoot too early, you may get 20 minutes. If you want to negotiate specifics, lets say 2 shots, and up to 2 hours but probably 1. 5 or so, offer 200 k. 150 k for 1, 200 for 2. Take it or leave it, plenty of fish in that sea. They are everywhere.

300 k is her gauging how new you are, or how dumb. LOL Reply 150 k plus taxi to come to me. Taxi is max 10-20 k. Tell her to take Uber, it's cheaper. And she can send you a screenshot of the cost. One did it to me that last trip, without asking which was cool.

Queens35
08-24-17, 01:12
WHAT! Us gringo guys don't know that we stand out, I am 6'-7" and pushing 300 lbs with light hair and light eyes, hell I stand out when I walk anywhere in Southern California, jajajajaja.

Seriously, even if it was not our height or light eyes or our clothing BUT just the way we walk and our mannerisms makes us stand out.

TTM.No shit. I enjoy heaering guys tell everybody how well they blend it because they wear long pants and a buttoned shirt. LOL.

Unfortunately, no matter what we wear they make us in a second. Even if you go to a futbol game and wear a Colombian Jersey, you are still a gringo!

DrMcNaughty
08-24-17, 01:16
You sound like a lest tackle!


WHAT! Us gringo guys don't know that we stand out, I am 6'-7" and pushing 300 lbs with light hair and light eyes, hell I stand out when I walk anywhere in Southern California, jajajajaja.

Seriously, even if it was not our height or light eyes or our clothing BUT just the way we walk and our mannerisms makes us stand out.

TTM.

Queens35
08-24-17, 01:21
I heard and witnessed that police stopped, questioned, and got rid of some gringos there last year and this year. A few times, I saw the police took gringos to somewhere else, may be their car, I am not sure. I hope they were not arrested. Needless to say these officers are on the local gang's pay roll. They do not do anything for you. They work for the thugs there. Same for the judges. There are some reasons why Mansion is packed all the time. Stay out of trouble and go safe. A diamond in the rough is not a worthy benefit relative to a potential detrimental cost. Certainly there are some reports when some guys were there and had no problem. But when gringos had trouble, they do not report their embarrassment. As for casas in Centro, no problem.If I were doing nothing wrong and the police told me that I have to go elsewhere, I'd calmly just say "por que tengo que irme?, estoy bien aqui" (why do I have to leave, I'm good here). Now if they were nice and gave me a reasonable explanation, or were more persistent or got aggressive, obviously I'd leave, I'm not risking a beating or arrest over some stupid shit. But I'm not going to be run off like a little byatch because some cop doesn't think I should be there or whatever.


There are some reasons why Mansion is packed all the time.Not sure what point you are attempting to make with this, but it has NOTHING to do with gringos having encounters with police in Centro. But the reasons are listed a few pages back. Mostly lack of competition and steady stream of non-Spanish speaking gringos keeps them in business.

Blue Touch
08-24-17, 01:22
Good luck.


If I were doing nothing wrong and the police told me that I have to go elsewhere, I'd calmly just say "por que tengo que irme?, estoy bien aqui" (why do I have to leave, I'm good here). Now if they were nice and gave me a reasonable explanation, or were more persistent or got aggressive, obviously I'd leave, I'm not risking a beating or arrest over some stupid shit. But I'm not going to be run off like a little byatch because some cop doesn't think I should be there or whatever.

Not sure what point you are attempting to make with this, but it has NOTHING to do with gringos having encounters with police in Centro. But the reasons are listed a few pages back. Mostly lack of competition and steady stream of non-Spanish speaking gringos keeps them in business.

Dcfan77
08-24-17, 01:23
You guys don't know what your talking about and don't belong en el centro. There is a high police presence. They are stoping everybody that is accompanied by any girl that looks [CodeWord903] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord903). If you do I hope you do get cought.


After the arrest of Jake in El Centro, the police are keeping eyes on gringos in the area and told some gringos to leave the area immediately. Though gringo guys do not know, they really stand out at Botero / Veracruz area.

JjBee62
08-24-17, 01:25
No shit. I enjoy heaering guys tell everybody how well they blend it because they wear long pants and a buttoned shirt. LOL.

Unfortunately, no matter what we wear they make us in a second. Even if you go to a futbol game and wear a Colombian Jersey, you are still a gringo!However, there's a difference between not blending in and standing out. Not much hope of ever blending in, but I also don't attract negative attention. I'm quiet, I stare less than the typical Colombian man, and I give a polite "Buenas" if someone greets or smiles at me in passing. I also save my cargo shorts for Ciclovia.

HorneeFalang
08-24-17, 01:38
Inn the last vid for raudel black, there is a girl with a tremendous ass at 3:20 in the background. Probably too big for most but I want it. What are the chances of me seeing that girl in mid-Sept. ? Do the same chicks stay in the same spot all the time? ANd what corner was that exactly? If you remember.Hell yes that is a terrific caboose. Is A level offered by these chicas?

Wolf662
08-24-17, 04:31
Hell yes that is a terrific caboose. Is A level offered by these chicas?I imagine depends on the individual girl and the size of the tip. (Pun intended. LOL).

YippieKayay
08-24-17, 05:01
I asked for a quote but didn't mention the time period. I would assume there is bargain room. And for communication, FB messenger really can't get quick response at all. Do I need to switch to whatsapp for further conversation?
Yes, they will typically give you a whatsapp number. You can just say 150 k and see what she says. It's 150 to 200 k for short time. If you are paying more than that you are overpaying. I don't usually ask for time. I always say "por un rato" which means for a while. That while can turn into anything you and the chica feel like a "while" is. Sometimes you might be looking for some really kinky shit the chicas don't regularly do like rim jobs. Maybe you'll pay more. I don't know. But a straight fuck is 150 k to 200 k. You'll be surprised how many will agree immediately to 150 k. My MO these days is to fuck once, get a massage then hint she should leave.

My last trip to Medellin, I stuck exclusively to parque lleras, and spent a lot of time in Club Gusto which is full of over priced hookers with an attitude. One chica wanted 600 k and wouldn't budge. I saw her THE SAME night at The Beer store when she left Gusto and she agreed to 200 k. I could have probably gotten her for 150 k but I wasn't going to split hairs. She was great.

Wolf662
08-24-17, 05:09
If I were doing nothing wrong and the police told me that I have to go elsewhere, I'd calmly just say "por que tengo que irme?, estoy bien aqui" (why do I have to leave, I'm good here)
Heck, I'd tell them I am a block from my hotel, where do you want me to go? LOL.

As to chicks, always ID them and make sure it's them in the pic. Long as she is 18+ you are good to go.

Heck, I carded my Centro SW sweetie Sara, turns out she is 22 yo with 2 kids. LOL.

(Anybody notice me asking Jemina if she was a woman in the RAUDAL vid? LOL).

JennyKk
08-24-17, 05:54
Yes, they will typically give you a whatsapp number. You can just say 150 k and see what she says. It's 150 to 200 k for short time. If you are paying more than that you are overpaying. I don't usually ask for time. I always say "por un rato" which means for a while. That while can turn into anything you and the chica feel like a "while" is. Sometimes you might be looking for some really kinky shit the chicas don't regularly do like rim jobs. Maybe you'll pay more. I don't know. But a straight fuck is 150 k to 200 k. You'll be surprised how many will agree immediately to 150 k. My MO these days is to fuck once, get a massage then hint she should leave.

My last trip to Medellin, I stuck exclusively to parque lleras, and spent a lot of time in Club Gusto which is full of over priced hookers with an attitude. One chica wanted 600 k and wouldn't budge. I saw her THE SAME night at The Beer store when she left Gusto and she agreed to 200 k. I could have probably gotten her for 150 k but I wasn't going to split hairs. She was great.
Ouch, she's trying to jack you IMO, I have a date coming up, someone I have seen before, off SeekingArrangements, asked her to bring a friend for a friend, told her 200 k for a few hours (we are doing dinner, drinks / dancing, then Love hotel w / Jacuzzi) or 300 k for TLN (all night) and she said fine, NP.

I'd offer a price rather then ask one, they are bound to reach for the stars if you ask.Thanks for the advise!

Vatore007
08-24-17, 06:14
Quick trip report, just getting back from Medellin for a week.

Hit all the normal spots in Centro; casas, strip clubs, the street.

I found the casas as always, hit and miss.

If you have the patience and visit a bunch, you'll eventually find something you like, and occasionally something you really like.

The street is an interesting walk, seeing mostly scags, glue sniffers, and street urchins, though again, you can find some good keepers.

Most definitely keep your eye out for bad dudes lurking, they are definitely out there, especially at night, and even more so after like 10 pm.

I found and absolute diamond, 18 year old, out there a couple visits ago, we've now become amigovios, and we just meet up at nicer motels for fun.

I bring her some gifts from the US and a little cash, and the total GFE is on..Was there a Sarah at the Mansion? Kind of a butter face with an incredible ass?

Culture
08-24-17, 11:08
Anyone know where to get B12 or testosterone shots?

Dickhead
08-24-17, 17:28
Sometimes you might be looking for some really kinky shit ... like rim jobs.I would strongly advise anyone who thinks rimming is 'really kinky' to never go to Thailand or Germany.

Vatore007
08-24-17, 21:08
Anyone know where to get B12 or testosterone shots?Test you can get at any pharmacy.

Vatore007
08-24-17, 21:08
Any choices for mature escorts in Medellin, like 50+.

Rodeo9112
08-24-17, 21:49
I would strongly advise anyone who thinks rimming is 'really kinky' to never go to Thailand or Germany.Please tell us some kinky shit we should seek out which would be on par with Thailand and Germany.

Queens35
08-25-17, 03:15
Anybody notice me asking Jemina if she was a woman in the RAUDAL vid?Yeah, and she took it surprisingly well. Laughted. I would have thought that she'd get offended since she doesn't look anything like a tranny.

Wolf662
08-25-17, 04:06
Yeah, and she took it surprisingly well. Laughted. I would have thought that she'd get offended since she doesn't look anything like a tranny.Well I didn't think the one who was looked like one either. LOL.

But yeah, I was just being extra cautious. I didn't give it much of a chance but better safe then sorry.

Balboa
08-25-17, 04:46
Was there a Sarah at the Mansion? Kind of a butter face with an incredible ass?Sorry, I don't remember.

Chicafan
08-25-17, 07:34
Well I have the G rated clips of the Redlight block girls that I have posted links to before:

(these are only $10 girls so not the best Medellin has to offer. LOL).

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593c68bf13a22

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593d7efb11739

Although the women in this vid was $21: (different block).

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593b50f51674aGreat work Wolf. Do you have the band name and titles of the songs accompanying your videos? I like but Shazam does not recognize. Thanks.

In your "Redlight block-Medellin Colombia-VeraCruz block #2" video there is a girl leaning on the wall that smiles as you pass to the staircase with your girl. She is a little doll. Those streets look relatively normal to me, not as scary as I imagined. I like that for watching your videos a few times I could know if I'm on course or veering off on blocks that aren't the heart of the RLD. Great videos. +1.

YippieKayay
08-25-17, 08:21
Please tell us some kinky shit we should seek out which would be on par with Thailand and Germany.I think you should be asking Vatore007.


Any choices for mature escorts in Medellin, like 50+.There was an old crone around parque lleras on weekends. Did not look healthy.


Was there a Sarah at the Mansion? Kind of a butter face with an incredible ass?

I think you're thinking of Sarah at Chicas Punto. Yes, incredible ass. Truly splendid ass.

Black Page
08-25-17, 17:43
I would strongly advise anyone who thinks rimming is 'really kinky' to never go to Thailand or Germany.Bear with him. He's still so young... :p

Wolf662
08-25-17, 19:55
Great work Wolf. Do you have the band name and titles of the songs accompanying your videos? I like but Shazam does not recognize. Thanks.

In your "Redlight block-Medellin Colombia-VeraCruz block #2" video there is a girl leaning on the wall that smiles as you pass to the staircase with your girl. She is a little doll. Those streets look relatively normal to me, not as scary as I imagined. I like that for watching your videos a few times I could know if I'm on course or veering off on blocks that aren't the heart of the RLD. Great videos. +1.Music:

They were the house band in Manuel Antonio, Costa Rica in 2005, "LosTres Caciques" at the Hotel Si Como No. I figured Pornhub has strict music rights policies so I used something not in wide circulation, I bought their CD from them, the 2 songs are "Womencita" and of course the much wider known cover of "Guantanmera". I can burn a copy to a CD or MP3's to a memory stick if you want, PM me.

Girl:

Yeah that cutie making that knowing smile in the doorway is my 2nd fav part of that vid, after my girlie Sara skipping to the room. LOL.

The doorway she is in is the entrance to Hotel Dinastia, which is 2 doors to the left of Drogueria Moderna, Carr 53 #51-57.

Wolf662
08-25-17, 20:13
Those streets look relatively normal to me, not as scary as I imagined. I like that for watching your videos a few times I could know if I'm on course or veering off on blocks that aren't the heart of the RLD. Great videos. +1.What I did before my 1st trip was watch this dudes vid on youtube a bunch of the Redlight block: (looks like maybe early Fri / Sat night, very busy crowd).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdp6HbcdhhE

Then I spend a long time on Google Street view figuring where that was based on buildings in the background, then mapped a safe route from my hotel there. LOL.

I also read the last 500 pages of the MDE thread on this site, then read back a further 500 pages before my 2nd trip if anybody wants to know how I seem to know my way around for someone who's only been there twice. LOL. That took me back about 6 years which I figured was enough + about a week looking at Streetview to avoid bad looking areas and to recognize Casa's entrances and the strip clubs. Yes I like to do my research.

Dickhead
08-25-17, 20:49
Please tell us some kinky shit we should seek out which would be on par with Thailand and Germany.I saw so much weird shit in Thailand, it left me blind for several weeks. In Germany, you may wish to try the 'plate glass lunch.' I'm sure not going to.

Vatore007
08-25-17, 23:49
I think you should be asking Vatore007..Why ask me?

Montani
08-26-17, 02:13
Any choices for mature escorts in Medellin, like 50+.If you want mature, try around Parque Botero and Parque Bolivar. Also, the pedestrian walk by Parque Botero and the red light strip one block below Parque Botero. Most of them, unfortunately, are hideous. However, there is the rare diamond in the rough to be found.

Wolf662
08-26-17, 18:14
If you want mature, try around Parque Botero and Parque Bolivar. Also, the pedestrian walk by Parque Botero and the red light strip one block below Parque Botero. Most of them, unfortunately, are hideous. However, there is the rare diamond in the rough to be found.Mostly younger ones around Botero / VeraCruz, the older 25-40 ish are over in the raudal block. Didn't see any 50+ though.

Black Page
08-26-17, 21:10
I also read the last 500 pages of the MDE thread on this site, then read back a further 500 pages before my 2nd trip
That's super RTFF! Clap clap clap! Amazing



That took me back about 6 years which I figured was enough + about a week looking at Streetview to avoid bad looking areasBut then you missed the best... <grin>
(ooopppss.... <blushing> ).

Montani
08-27-17, 00:22
Out of curiosity, just went back 10 years in reports, and it seems the chica prices in Colombian pesos has basically been flat. I understand the dollar has fluctuated in value, but chica prices seem to have remained flat. Still I guess the 20 mil por media days are numbered.

Can't imagine what it was like 10+ years ago, was there even a metro back then?

Paulie97
08-27-17, 04:16
However, there's a difference between not blending in and standing out. Not much hope of ever blending in, but I also don't attract negative attention. I'm quiet, I stare less than the typical Colombian man, and I give a polite "Buenas" if someone greets or smiles at me in passing. I also save my cargo shorts for Ciclovia.It's true that we get made as foreigners no matter what, up close, but from a distance not so much if you dress correctly. And it also comes down to what sort of foreigner they make you as. Are you are clueless tourist or a gringo slumming it living down there on a budget? Is much better to be thought of as the latter, so people that come here advising guys to walk the streets wearing whatever they want give bad advice.

YippieKayay
08-27-17, 05:07
Out of curiosity, just went back 10 years in reports, and it seems the chica prices in Colombian pesos has basically been flat. I understand the dollar has fluctuated in value, but chica prices seem to have remained flat. Still I guess the 20 mil por media days are numbered.

Can't imagine what it was like 10+ years ago, was there even a metro back then?It's always been more than enough. The holy grail of most prepagos is 100 USD. For a time this was about 150 k to 200 k but that's changed to being closer to 300 k. This goes for Colombians abroad in places like Panama City. It is rare to see them turn down 100 USD. Most will still go for 150 k to 200 k. I think the reason is it is still a lot of money for an hours work along with the fact that life is fucking poor in Colombia for most people. I've met prepagos who have built an entire life out of hooking; they do it both in and out of Colombia for a good stretch of time and save up well.

Local prices for locals still start around 30 k to 60 k depending on where you are. I guarantee you, you could find for less but that's cheap enough I think, hahaha.

If you compare this to Brazilian hookers its not too far off their price point but they have considerably higher priced hookers in much more expensive and nicer places (some of the hooker night clubs in Sao Paolo can easily cost you 200-300 USD with food + drinks + hooker). Those kinds of prices haven't been seen in Colombia unless you're a sucker who just wants to flash more money and pay more. And that's fine if you are.

There are places like Club Gusto in Parque Lleras where hookers will try to get 200 USD for short time. I've seen visitors there pay it without blinking an eye.

Dickhead
08-27-17, 06:56
Can't imagine what it was like 10+ years ago, was there even a metro back then?It's been 10.5 years since I lived there, and yes. The cable part that goes up into the hills and the barrio had recently opened. The rest of the system was about ten years old then. So I think maybe 1996 or thereabouts, was when it opened. Somebody else can google that one, but it's been around for a while. Buenos Aires had the first subway system in South America, I do believe.

World Travel 69
08-27-17, 16:53
This is the only Map you will need.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1ofx_YA4jQTGihNBdWeQtw3UxYYI&ll=6.217183908177347%2C-75.58512479317415&z=13

ColombiaLover
08-27-17, 18:07
Yes, prices have remained pretty stable. I first went to Medellin over 11 years ago and stayed at the Mansion the first time. The "standard rate" at the Mansion was 150 mil. More recently some of the chicas have tried to push it to 200 mil, but for those who read or have any sense, you can still get most of them for 150 (which is rather generous, given you can pay much less outside of the Mansion for the same or better quality). That said, the cost to the gringo is actually down. When I first started going to Colombia, the peso was about 2300 to the dollar. During the time I was married to a rolla, the exchange rate went as low at about 1750 or so. And then last year it was as high as 3300 or more, if I remember right. So that same 150 mil costs you anywhere from $45 to $85 depending on when you visited during this time period.


Out of curiosity, just went back 10 years in reports, and it seems the chica prices in Colombian pesos has basically been flat. I understand the dollar has fluctuated in value, but chica prices seem to have remained flat. Still I guess the 20 mil por media days are numbered.

Can't imagine what it was like 10+ years ago, was there even a metro back then?

Blue Touch
08-27-17, 20:42
Fusion is gone. I don't know if Lindas Chicas is still in business. I thought it close severaal years ago.


This is the only Map you will need.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1ofx_YA4jQTGihNBdWeQtw3UxYYI&ll=6.217183908177347%2C-75.58512479317415&z=13

Blue Touch
08-27-17, 21:34
As for the overall price, the CPI in Colombia approximately increased by 40% (95 in 2008 to 138 last quarter) in the last ten years. As for the economy per person, GDP per capita (in terms of Purchase Power Parity, not the unstable market exchange rate for USD) increased by 30 percent in the same period. So, rich businessmen got richer and poor workers / consumers became poorer in terms of real income independent of inflation.

As for the casas in Centro, the price was about 30 k ten years ago while it is 40 k now. It is 33 percent increase, slightly lower than the CPI increase.

For those with income in terms of the USD, however, the appreciation of USD outweighed the modest inflation in Colombia in the last two years. But we don't know how long the current exchange rate will continue.

The tricky part is that when the USD depreciates, the price in Colombia does not go down in response, though it usually goes up in response to the apprecItion of the dollar.

Blue Touch
08-27-17, 21:54
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Culture
08-28-17, 05:47
Hi,

Someone mentioned Testosterone is bought OTC at any pharmacy. How do you buy it? Is it in an injection form?

Vatore007
08-28-17, 14:54
Hi,

Someone mentioned Testosterone is bought OTC at any pharmacy. How do you buy it? Is it in an injection form?Just ask for "testoviron" at the pharmacy. Yes, injectable, they come in little syringes with needle, single serving size.

Trim1
08-28-17, 19:56
Well I have the G rated clips of the Redlight block girls that I have posted links to before:Wolf662,

Your videos were very useful and informative (though it looks like they got taken down? Could you recommend a good spy cam for making videos like those?

Wolf662
08-28-17, 22:15
Wolf662,

Your videos were very useful and informative (though it looks like they got taken down? Could you recommend a good spy cam for making videos like those?Wow, that's weird, they were taken down, says:

"Video has been removed at the request of the copyright owner."

I could maybe see if the obscure Costa Rican band from 12 years ago I used for music complained but one of them didn't even have any background music, you'd think I'd be the copyright owner since I took the footage.

Glasses, Amazon has a bunch, they don't have mine anymore for sale.

Knowledge
08-29-17, 02:41
It was probably one of the businesses shown or an individual who asked to have it taken down. It might be for the best, all things considered.


Wow, that's weird, they were taken down, says:

"Video has been removed at the request of the copyright owner."

I could maybe see if the obscure Costa Rican band from 12 years ago I used for music complained but one of them didn't even have any background music, you'd think I'd be the copyright owner since I took the footage.

Glasses, Amazon has a bunch, they don't have mine anymore for sale.

Blue Touch
08-29-17, 04:40
It was probably one of the businesses shown or an individual who asked to have it taken down. It might be for the best, all things considered.Wise comment.

MedellinGringo
08-29-17, 07:58
Hi,

Someone mentioned Testosterone is bought OTC at any pharmacy. How do you buy it? Is it in an injection form?The injectable from is less expensive.

But you can get a month's supply of Androgel for about 80 bucks. Which is incredibly cheap compared to around 600 bucks for a month's supply if your insurance doesn't cover it in the USA.

World Travel 69
08-29-17, 14:34
Here is very good Costa Rican Band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egz1Q0omWC8

https://www.facebook.com/%C3%89ditus-59472728322/

Too bad about the Videos.


Wow, that's weird, they were taken down, says:

"Video has been removed at the request of the copyright owner."

I could maybe see if the obscure Costa Rican band from 12 years ago I used for music complained but one of them didn't even have any background music, you'd think I'd be the copyright owner since I took the footage.

Glasses, Amazon has a bunch, they don't have mine anymore for sale.

LocoGringo
08-29-17, 14:38
The injectable from is less expensive.

But you can get a month's supply of Androgel for about 80 bucks. Which is incredibly cheap compared to around 600 bucks for a month's supply if your insurance doesn't cover it in the USA.There are 2 kinds available. The short term, 2-3 week, injection with a blunt fuckin needle, and a product by bayer that is a time release over 12 weeks. The time release didn't used to be available in the USA, costs 60-75 dollars. Been using it for many years. Take it ever 4-6 weeks. Yeah, I overdo a little.

West Fl Dude
08-29-17, 20:30
There are 2 kinds available. The short term, 2-3 week, injection with a blunt fuckin needle, and a product by bayer that is a time release over 12 weeks. The time release didn't used to be available in the USA, costs 60-75 dollars. Been using it for many years. Take it ever 4-6 weeks. Yeah, I overdo a little.I used to pay approx $70 for 2 vials, doctor agreed to up my dosage as lab results confirmed I could, and then I found a coupon without my insurance called goodrx,. The pharmacist filled and now, for all three, the cost is $22 a month. It required injection but not one of those bottle you have to score the top off of to open.

I also know of a Dr in Costa Rica who injects and it supposedly last 3-4 months- I haven't fully looked at that yet. His name Dr Tinoco. Might be more extensive- a little bit but less needle sticks.

JjBee62
08-29-17, 22:55
Today I finally got around to doing a brief walkthrough of Mayorista. I don't have a lot to report, as I wasn't looking for any action, just trying to get some exercise and expand my knowledge.

Getting there:

From the Ayura Metro station walk west on Calle 85 (in this area Calles are numbered, increasing from Itagui). Walk past Central Mayorista to Carrera 50 A. At least at 3 pm, Calle 85 between Cra. 50 A and 52 was the only spot where I noticed any action.

The area:

Besides about a dozen cheap hotels, there are quite a few small restaurants and bars. South on Cra. 52 D is lined with clothing stores. There are also a lot of billares bars and barber shops in the area. Mid afternoon area seems safe enough and is probably okay through early evening. Lots of cheap restaurants in the area. Should be fine for lunch or early dinner.

The girls:

There were about 10 girls working, all clustered in front of 2 hotels. None of them looked especially bad, none looked especially good. Most looked to be thicker than average. There was one with the comically large fake boobs and another with an oversized ass. Of the lot, 2 I would do if I was looking for cheap pussy.

No idea on prices, because I wasn't shopping. Considering it was a Tuesday afternoon, it's probably worth checking out later in the week, if you're looking for street action.

Vatore007
08-30-17, 06:31
I used to pay approx $70 for 2 vials, doctor agreed to up my dosage as lab results confirmed I could, and then I found a coupon without my insurance called goodrx,. The pharmacist filled and now, for all three, the cost is $22 a month. It required injection but not one of those bottle you have to score the top off of to open.

I also know of a Dr in Costa Rica who injects and it supposedly last 3-4 months- I haven't fully looked at that yet. His name Dr Tinoco 5068934040. Might be more extensive- a little bit but less needle sticks.A 10 ML bottle of test goes for about $40 on the Dark Web.

Chicafan
08-30-17, 08:21
With respect to Testosterones are you gentlemen confusing anabolic steroids with testosterone or is real testosterone available? I do remember years ago a pharmacy in Costa Rica being known for "testosterone" shots but was actually Sustanon.

Black Page
08-30-17, 09:45
It was probably one of the businesses shown or an individual who asked to have it taken down. It might be for the best, all things considered.So obvious.
I am still amazed to notice that some people does not understand that not everyone is happy to be displayed on pornhub working as prostitute, openly soliciting or roaming in a zona de tolerancia. Some wives or work colleagues might not understand our liberal principles.

Vatore007
08-30-17, 18:16
With respect to Testosterones are you gentlemen confusing anabolic steroids with testosterone or is real testosterone available? I do remember years ago a pharmacy in Costa Rica being known for "testosterone" shots but was actually Sustanon.Sustanon IS testosterone, and testosterone IS a steroid, Deca is an example of an anabolic steroid, test is androgenic.

Vatore007
08-30-17, 18:17
It was probably one of the businesses shown or an individual who asked to have it taken down. It might be for the best, all things considered.They are not the copyright owners.

Vatore007
08-30-17, 18:20
So obvious.
I am still amazed to notice that some people does not understand that not everyone is happy to be displayed on pornhub working as prostitute, openly soliciting or roaming in a zona de tolerancia. Some wives or work colleagues might not understand our liberal principles.Obvious? The people in the video do not own the copyright so they have no right to have it taken down. You can't be in a public place and then complain you were caught on a camera, there is no expectation of privacy in public areas. It's not obvious at all, it actually makes no sense because the cameraman owns the copyright in this case.

Blue Touch
08-30-17, 19:22
So obvious.
I am still amazed to notice that some people does not understand that not everyone is happy to be displayed on pornhub working as prostitute, openly soliciting or roaming in a zona de tolerancia. Some wives or work colleagues might not understand our liberal principles.Yes, the video solidified the image of gringo visitors to the area as being disrespectful and obtrusive. Probably the videos heightened the local animosity towards the gringos visiting the area.

A few years ago, one ISG member took a picture of a casa girl and posted it on the other monger site. After that, several people and I heard that the casa papasan punched him badly.

Don't be arrogant or obnoxious. Having green buck does not mean that you can do anything to the local people in their country.

Knowledge
08-31-17, 03:53
Allow me to send the message another way. The copyright infringement reference doesn't necessarily have anything to do with copyrights. There are influential parties who lose money when the image. And tourism revenue. Of the country is damaged.


They are not the copyright owners.

BlueChange
08-31-17, 04:32
Sustanon IS testosterone, and testosterone IS a steroid, Deca is an example of an anabolic steroid, test is androgenic.With a healthy workout and diet routine, which one of these helps cut fat without raising your body tempeture to crazy levels?

Chicafan
08-31-17, 07:23
Sustanon IS testosterone, and testosterone IS a steroid, Deca is an example of an anabolic steroid, test is androgenic.And I thought it was just a steroid. I did try a single dose one time (shot in the butt) but do not recall it having an effect. My recollection is that it was a "waste". Maybe I needed more?

"Sustanon 250 is a testosterone hormone. Although synthetic it is a perfect replica of the naturally produced primary male androgen testosterone. By the esters that are attached, this is what defines Sustanon 250 and differentiates it from other testosterone compounds. The compound carries a mixture of small and large esters in a precise dose. It is the precise dose of each of the four testosterone esters that make it. You could take four other testosterones and combine them in the same dosing strength but this would not make it Sustanon 250. This is important because there are underground labs that try to pass off other mixtures as Sustanon 250. ".

I wonder what the side effects could be- estrogen aromatase, conversion to DHT so baldness, ?

Great article below. I'm going to ask my doctor about it and get a testosterone check at my next physical and find out what other options might be available for treating low T.

https://www.steroid.com/Sustanon-250.php

Hope it's not a violation to post this link.

Black Page
08-31-17, 19:40
Obvious? The people in the video do not own the copyright so they have no right to have it taken down.Someone says "If you don't get it by yourself, there's no need to explain".

What you do not understand from my words could be more clear, maybe, if lectured by some solid guys of Prado, with or without a knife. They don't know what is "copyright", but can teach anyway a somehow primitive concept of "privacy".

Blue Touch
08-31-17, 21:54
The fact that he used hidden camera indicats that he knew he was doing morally and / or legally wrong.


Oh yeah for sure, walking around that area openly filming is counter-indicated. LOL. I like some danger but am not suicidal.

JjBee62
09-01-17, 00:26
The fact that he used hidden camera indicats that he knew he was doing morally and / or legally wrong.Or it could mean that he knows walking around openly filming prostitutes, in that area is a good way to exchange your camera, money and phone for the chance to walk away with all your bodily fluids still in your body.

Hasideas Tao
09-01-17, 03:38
I was in Mayo recently. To me it is the same as years ago. Some nights there was nobody that caught my attention but usually there were 1 or 2 I liked. And just last week, again, I saw 1 or 2 I liked. 1 of which really liked. It was before 9 pm and I prefer thin / fit girls.


Definitely some doables among the trash! Some of this $10 girls look a lot better than the FB girls and Mansion girls looking for 150 and 200 mil. Encouraging me to get off my lazy ass next time and get back to the streets. Years ago (when it was better) I used to be a regular at Mayorista and had some very good luck there.

Hasideas Tao
09-01-17, 03:44
Fusion is gone. I don't know if Lindas Chicas is still in business. I thought it close severaal years ago.Fusion has a new location. I don't know the address but I can take you there.

"Lindas Chicas "is still open and Nancy is as feisty as ever.

Blue Touch
09-01-17, 03:50
Thank you, I know where it is. Is Nancy still there and mamasan-ing? Monster.


Fusion has a new location. I don't know the address but I can take you there.

"Lindas Chicas "is still open and Nancy is as feisty as ever.

Wolf662
09-01-17, 13:23
The fact that he used hidden camera indicats that he knew he was doing morally and / or legally wrong.Or maybe thought wondering around Centro with a high priced digital camcorder out was not a good idea, right up there with a Rolex and some gold chains.

Black Page
09-01-17, 19:24
Or maybe thought wondering around Centro with a high priced digital camcorder out was not a good idea, right up there with a Rolex and some gold chains.At this point, since all words fail, maybe a scientific heuristic approach could be tried. Since your expensive cam is now safe, you can try this scientific experiment:

1) post on Facebook your face and videos previously on pornhub, saying proudly "hey look at my videos, this is me, it was fun, I show you the REAL MEDELLIN!"

2) post the link on some local Spotted FB page, advertise it, again saying proudly "hey look what a good journalist I am, this is the real Medellin, I showed it to all the world";

3) wait a while, until the videos start to circulate on site among those who are interested;

4) go to Raudal and introduce yourself to people sitting in a bar ("Hey do you know me? Did you see these videos?? It's ME!! :-D"), invite them for a beer with you, and ask if they are happy that you made the place famous in the world;

5) wait that someone recognizes you, and report back the congratulations and pats on shoulders you will receive.

Knowledge
09-01-17, 19:50
Will you next recommend the videographer exclaim "but you don't hold the copyright!" as a way to stop the beatings that would ensue?

I don't know why but I thought about the copyright angle the other day. I think that is a possibly a canned reason code when content is removed by the site owner. I would not put much stock in it. I like to err on the side of common sense. In this case I think it's more likely what many have said. People don't want to see their faces on a porno site indicating they are in a red light district.


At this point, since all words fail, maybe a scientific heuristic approach could be tried. Since your expensive cam is now safe, you can try this scientific experiment:

1) post on Facebook your face and videos previously on pornhub, saying proudly "hey look at my videos, this is me, it was fun, I show you the REAL MEDELLIN!"

2) post the link on some local Spotted FB page, advertise it, again saying proudly "hey look what a good journalist I am, this is the real Medellin, I showed it to all the world";

3) wait a while, until the videos start to circulate on site among those who are interested;

4) go to Raudal and introduce yourself to people sitting in a bar ("Hey do you know me? Did you see these videos?? It's ME!! :-D"), invite them for a beer with you, and ask if they are happy that you made the place famous in the world;

5) wait that someone recognizes you, and report back the congratulations and pats on shoulders you will receive.

Sho423
09-02-17, 04:08
Anyone going to Medellin from September 6-11?

I was going with two buddies but they had to cancel because of the flood in Houston.

YippieKayay
09-02-17, 04:27
At this point, since all words fail, maybe a scientific heuristic approach could be tried...Can this be taken to the chit chat thread? It's derailing the thread. Thank you.

Turgid
09-02-17, 13:36
At this point, since all words fail, maybe a scientific heuristic approach could be tried. Since your expensive cam is now safe, you can try this scientific experiment:.Totally nonsensical and hilarious at the same time.

Balboa
09-02-17, 17:55
I hit Centro last night, saw a tall, skinny, older gringo, with silver hair, wearing a black Batman t-shirt, on the back inscribed "100 percent prostitute".

Comical.

I talked to some of the girls, he was soliciting for 40 K pesos, bb sex.

All declined, and he gave his calling card to them, which most just tossed away.

He's obviously been there many times, he knew where to go and look.

I'm sure his bombardment approach must work with some of the desperate girls.

Just looked silly to me, wearing that dumb shirt.

To each their own I guess.

Black Page
09-02-17, 19:54
I think that is a possibly a canned reason code when content is removed by the site owner. Of course that's it. So obvious.


Can this be taken to the chit chat thread? It's derailing the thread. Thank you.
Whatever deals directly with the safety and ethics of P4P hobbyists in Medellin is well in scope, as it can help someone to keep his ass safe. My post is paradoxical hilarious, but maybe could save a life, or just a nose, should some schmuck after reading all this discussion here be now thinking to try on his own the thrill of video-reporting the Centro of Medellin. It's a very bad idea, and pointing it out again and again is in scope here.

Your comment, instead, does not add anything and is one more contribution to chit-chat. (not that I care, this thread is lively as few others also because of chit-chat). I suggest to refrain, but I understand it's just me and you will not agree. We are here to share information but also for fun. Thank you.

Knowledge
09-02-17, 21:10
What you describe strikes me as a very good photo illustration for the "what not to do when traveling" page of Wikipedia.


I hit Centro last night, saw a tall, skinny, older gringo, with silver hair, wearing a black Batman t-shirt, on the back inscribed "100 percent prostitute".

Comical.

I talked to some of the girls, he was soliciting for 40 K pesos, bb sex.

All declined, and he gave his calling card to them, which most just tossed away.

He's obviously been there many times, he knew where to go and look.

I'm sure his bombardment approach must work with some of the desperate girls.

Just looked silly to me, wearing that dumb shirt.

To each their own I guess.

Blue Touch
09-03-17, 05:24
Mongers to avoid Lindas Chicas. Mamasan there is unpleasant at best. Try Energy for high end casa and New Life for low end.


This owner of this place is notorious for being pushy, tricky and making the prices up for drinks and girls according to her mood which literally changes by the second. I find her (Nancy) nearly impossible to deal with. However, you stated 120 k / hour. Are you sure? Last time I went, I walked out realizing I had just paid for a drink for a girl that I was going to take upstairs but did not because the "negotiations" with Nancy just killed the whole mood for me. As far as I know, the girl never even got the drink. In fact I am sure she didn't!

DrHosem
09-03-17, 07:08
Anyone going to Medellin from September 6-11?

I was going with two buddies but they had to cancel because of the flood in Houston.I'm here now.

Stay until the 11th.

Vatore007
09-03-17, 16:42
Of course that's it. So obvious.


Whatever deals directly with the safety and ethics of P4P hobbyists in Medellin is well in scope, as it can help someone to keep his ass safe. My post is paradoxical hilarious, but maybe could save a life, or just a nose, should some schmuck after reading all this discussion here be now thinking to try on his own the thrill of video-reporting the Centro of Medellin. It's a very bad idea, and pointing it out again and again is in scope here.

Your comment, instead, does not add anything and is one more contribution to chit-chat. (not that I care, this thread is lively as few others also because of chit-chat). I suggest to refrain, but I understand it's just me and you will not agree. We are here to share information but also for fun. Thank you.Do you realize the guy isn't walking around with a camera?

BlueChange
09-03-17, 17:30
Mongers to avoid Lindas Chicas. Mamasan there is unpleasant at best. Try Energy for high end casa and New Life for low end.Energy ALL the way. They are consistenly good. The only time I had a bad time is when I go late and the LU is not poping. They even have a new Mamasan that is even more friendly and lets you get the wifi password. I think there is new management because the girls have new robes when they disrobe and there is a general sense of a new regime there.

RedVladi
09-03-17, 19:07
Anyone in Medellin Sept. 16 and onwards?

I'll be staying there from 16-29th. I already have 2 main girls ready to fuck, met off colombiancupid, non-pro (or semi-pros. You never know right? Then have like 6 potential dates off colombian cupid. In between all this square, normal shit, I'm looking to quite a bit of good mongering. PM for details.

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Black Page
09-03-17, 20:18
Do you realize the guy isn't walking around with a camera?ROFL. He still didn't get it.

Knowledge
09-04-17, 02:26
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Energy is OK for girls and superb for the cleanliness and comfort of its facility. The cost is about twice as much as the joints in Centro. But don't expect girls that are twice as good. Everybody should check it out and see for themselves. I don't go out of my way for it but if I'm in the neighborhood for drinks or a meal I'll stop in. Yes, the mamasan sucks up, so that's a plus if you need that.


Energy ALL the way. They are consistenly good. The only time I had a bad time is when I go late and the LU is not poping. They even have a new Mamasan that is even more friendly and lets you get the wifi password. I think there is new management because the girls have new robes when they disrobe and there is a general sense of a new regime there.

Vatore007
09-04-17, 06:35
ROFL. He still didn't get it.I get it, you don't get it, my point is how am I going to get caught with a spy camera? Are they searching everyone that goes into Centro? No.

Jbj64
09-04-17, 15:57
I will be there those same dates, if you had a paid membership I would PM you. I also am trying CC and Tinder.


Anyone in Medellin Sept. 16 and onwards?

I'll be staying there from 16-29th. I already have 2 main girls ready to fuck, met off colombiancupid, non-pro (or semi-pros. You never know right? Then have like 6 potential dates off colombian cupid. In between all this square, normal shit, I'm looking to quite a bit of good mongering. PM for details.

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World Travel 69
09-05-17, 13:28
I don't know if you can see this on one of the Maps.

Medellin Full Map - DO NOT Ask For This Map

A few guys keep asking for it.

Request this Map Only!


https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1ofx_YA4jQTGihNBdWeQtw3UxYYI&ll=6.214239295406224%2C-75.57595364999997&z=13

MkMarko
09-06-17, 04:12
I'll be in Medellin in October. Are there sports bars that have NFL games playing?

JjBee62
09-06-17, 16:38
I'll be in Medellin in October. Are there sports bars that have NFL games playing?I've heard that Patrick's in Parque Lleras has the NFL games, but I haven't confirmed it. I do know that Jenson's will have the games on. Jenson's is on Carrera 37, just north of Calle 10. Next door is the'Andres, which serves an excellent breakfast.

Fun Luvr
09-06-17, 19:50
I'll be in Medellin in October. Are there sports bars that have NFL games playing?Patrick's Irish Pub will have many of the games. Hooters may have a game, depending on the soccer schedule. I've been there when every TV had the same soccer game, and they would not change even one TV. The game was not a playoff game, or anything like that, just a regular game.

MkMarko
09-07-17, 01:16
I've heard that Patrick's in Parque Lleras has the NFL games, but I haven't confirmed it. I do know that Jenson's will have the games on. Jenson's is on Carrera 37, just north of Calle 10. Next door is the'Andres, which serves an excellent breakfast.Sounds like Patrick's is the place. Thanks guys!

SuperAn
09-07-17, 03:18
Will be around, up for something Friday night?


Anyone going to Medellin from September 6-11?

I was going with two buddies but they had to cancel because of the flood in Houston.

Vatore007
09-07-17, 09:33
Do the girls in Colombia go for bareback sex?

Wesley383
09-07-17, 14:35
I will be there those same dates, if you had a paid membership I would PM you. I also am trying CC and Tinder.Anyone want to meet up for a casa run etc?

I'll be staying at the Mansion. 9/15-9/20.

PM me!

Nuupter
09-07-17, 18:49
This will be my maiden trip to Medellin. I was in MDE from 1-6 septermber. Months before, I was adding people on facebook, reading forums and asking questions. I also downloaded a map list from ISG to be put in google maps. 1-2 weeks before I was messaging facebook girls to ask for whatsapp numbers.

Arrived on Septermber 1, had to wait to 3 pm to check into my airbnb apartment at parque lleras. I had set up a date with kat a few days ago, and with some rescheduling here and there, decided on 4 pm. The date almost did not happen as the address I gave her is a store, and I told her to give me a chance and some time to get there and take a better picture for her. She is the prettiest girl I have seen on this whole trip. Stayed till about 6 pm, and got a taxi home. She does not want people to know that she was doing escorting so she told me she can't meet me outside for meals and around town, because she does not want to be seen by friends and family she knows. But outside of medellin she can go and walk around anytime. She did say she can spent the night with me, but it has to be when she is on holiday or vacation from college. At about 7 pm, met up with wolf62,and another guy for dinner at el centro near his hotel. Went to Barra Ejecutiva, conejitas, and some other strip clubs around there. Met another guy from ISG, and also found a girl of interest in conejitas for 30 minutes. Yakusa is right next to hotel botero, so easy for people who are staying there. El centro is just like thailand and vietnam, as long as you are careful, everything will be fine.

Went to fase II. See plenty of 9 and 10, very pretty girls. 10 k to go in. Did not go with anyone at that time as I was just looking and just wanted to take my time. Got a whatsapp number from a girl there who is a 9 on looks, and she said she does not dance on stage as she does not like to be touched. Her name is oriana.

Next day, we met for breakfast in el centro at versailles, then wolf brought us 3 around the SW's. On this day there was not too many girls or choices. And all of them are not my type. Went to New life or was it new energy I forgot, which is near kamasutra. Also went to kamasutra and walked to a building painted in blue with a painting of a face in blue, the building is still on construction. The guy from ISG saw a girl he was interested in, and we left for new life or new energy, and also kamasutra. Was told that Saturday there is only the be team, and they have better looking ones on weekdays. The charge is 2 k if none is picked at the New life. In the evening I met with Hellen Malu from facebook, and one more of her friend. After this trip I realise girls can be afraid of coming to el centro. Very dangerous they said. We are just going for dinner, and you are colombians yourself LOL. So me, wolf, and the guy from usasg met at their hotel before going to the restaurant. The usasg guy did not like her date which is the friend of hellen, saying she is very premadonna. Hellen is abit better. So that date did not went well, and he cut her lose after dinner. They just did not connect and they did not even try. I saw her using her phone 70 percent of the time. Went to get temporary tattos. Met with one of the girls from Vane Acosta on whatsapp. On picture she looks pretty. But in person, she is fatter, and has baby scars, and face don't look as pretty, but same person. Will not be using this contact again. But I heard bigmonkeyp had a good time with the girls from vane acosta.

Next day, had a 11 am appointment with daiana montoya, but she never showed and never read her message, and this was planned 2 days before, and a day before she told me she can come on that day. At 11.20 did not hear from her, so took taxi to el centro to meet up. Met with the guy from ISG and walked around the street with SW again near plaza botero. After that took a train to mayorista. Sundays are very slow days at all places, hoped that I can meet with daiana, but she flaked. Saw usbdawg from ISG again where we first met in new life. Nothing of interest in mayorista, and we went back to el centro and me back to my apartment. Got a message at 2 pm earlier from daiana and she said she had an emergency, and ask if I wanted to see her the next day instead. Decided to give her another chance and said lets meet Monday evening. At 5 pm met with, valentina zapata and her friend Has Leal. For almost 2 hours. Mistake on both of our part as I said I wanted to be with them for 2 hours, but she was thinking that I will meet her in 2 hours. They are both very nice girls. Valentina is pretty cute with a nice body. Had some fun, met found out wolf got sick and so only met up with the other 2 guys gwl8012 and the one from usasg at parque lleras. The guy from usasg was hooked on to el poblado and liked it better than el centro, so much so he decided to check out his hotel at botero a few days later and check into a hotel at parque lleras. After the 2 girls left, I met with gwl and he brought me to the most amazing empanadas place. That is something out of the world and I never had something this good. Thanks gwl. The guy from usasg was using gwl's room to see a girl he picked up at parque lleras. We were all amazed by how fast he learned. And I don't even know you can find them there. So for the first whole time we were just walking around parque lleras. So gwl saw this girl sitting next to a stall or trolley which sells phone covers, wallets etc, and started talking to a girl that was sitting next to the other girl who was chatting with her. Gwl started talking to the girl, and after a while we ask what fun things is there to do on a Sunday, gwl ask her if she wants to take a drink, and then we all proceed to a restaurant bar. After a bit, gwl decide to hint on that he wants to spend a night with her. After a while they agreed on a price and then we all left. Such a lucky guy, and so easy to pick up someone who I did not even know are working. To me she is not my type so I was not too envious. But in the other 3 guys view she is good looking. So me and the guy from usasg took a cab back to hotel botero to see how is wolf doing. Was feeling a little better after the sleep, and we chat and talk about what we were doing without him. He got much better from talking. And after an hour or so, usasg guy decided he does not want to go to any clubs. Since it is so slow on sundays, there was no one of interest at the few clubs at el centro that me and wolf went to fase dos, luna luneras. Luna luneras are not pushy and does not piush you to buy drinks. Not as many girls and not many lookers in my taste. Went with one of them.

Monday, had a date set with kat again at a motel. Wanted me to go get one and then she will meet me there. Will never use the motel punto cero again. Jacuzzi does not work, and she said it is like that for almost all motels around there. Good ones are in itagui. I like kat. Spend 3 hours with her as she needs to go back and study. Such a lovely time with her that time flys so fast. Ask her if she can bring me around medellin when I am back. Again told me anywhere but medellin as she does not want people to see her with a gringo or extranjero. After that we left the motel and I met the 3 guys at el centro again and we head to mayorista. This is the day we actually first went to mayorista, not the day before and we met usbdawg. That evening had a conversation with daiana, thinking that she will not flake on me this time, and she did not want to come to el centro for dinner as she is afraid of this place also. And she say she will meet me at my apartment. So I told her I will meet her there at a set time. Went back, had to charge my phone anyway, and by 8 pm, 1 hour after our set time, she did not show up.she told me she had another emergency, something about her brothers motorcycle getting impounded? i was pretty pissed as i do knot know if i should believe her or not, how do you have 2 emergency consecutively? she said she is home right now and to come or not to come? wanted to tell her what can we do this late at 10pm? told me its hard to get a taxi this late. did not get to see her on my trip i wanted to treat you to dinner.now i gotta eat something by myself. so i went to the empanadas place again and met the other 2 guys at strip clubs at el centro. later me and gwl. went to fase dos together The other 2 guys did not want to do anything because they were tired and had some girls from yakusa across the street. We went to a few clubs, and after that me and gwl went to fase dos together. My aim was to bring oriana back to my apartment. Paid my fine, and brought her back for TLN for 300 k. I asked her why she does not dance on stage and she told me she does not liked to be touched. Came to my apt, smoked marijuana, I don't smoke. And danced to some music and gave me a strip dance. Pretty, that was why I bring her back to my place. She has no problem with me touching her all over. Had a pretty good time with her that night, and she left in the morning.

Wanted to spent my last day with a real TLN and not only a few hours. Practically did not do anything for my whole last day, contacted yisus and he gave me a contact number with girls. I had a fear of what may happen again from the first time, that I did not went ahead and book any girls zara showed me. I should have, because the clubs are starting to rip people off on that day. A bottle of water cause 8 k on that day but a few times we were there it was only 4 k. Wanted to bring the girl back but she did not tell me she wanted a second beer and proceed to buy one her own. That is 40 k. I was pissed. Gwl was ripped off too, a gatorate for 7 usd?? It was raining so I tried to salvage everything by contaccting zara, but too late. So met with gwl again and we went to luna.

And that is the end of my trip. The food in Colombia is delicious. We went to a restaurant near my hotel called bonhomia. The nachos is so good, and the sausage plate is nice also. Same with the breakfast place.the guys i met, wolf, gwl8012 and the usasg guy are all cool guys to hang out with. I will certanlty go back to medellin again and see kat. Medellin did not dissapoint me when I compare it to Germany. This is my first trip to mde so I learned alot from wolf and have to thank him for bringing us around. I might have overpaid in some but have my lesson learned. Next time I want to stay at hotel medellin plaza or the mansion. I love rooms with jacuzzi. The hotel on my last extended day was right infront of patricks irish pub. Difficult to find it. I walked pass my hotel a few times and even taxi drivers can't find it LOL. But they are 15 days new.

Dickhead
09-08-17, 01:14
El centro is just like thailand and vietnam, as long as you are careful, everything will be fine.Yes, Colombia is just like Thailand and Vietnam, except with a murder rate 18 times higher than Vietnam and 7 times higher than Thailand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Wolf662
09-08-17, 02:56
Day 1-Fri.

6:45 am flight. Went to bed 11:30 p, up at 3:30 am. Sigh. Spirit was actually fast at check in and was to my gate 1-1/2 early. Ouch.

Hour delay on runway in Ft Lauderdale. Sigh. Wheels down 2 pm MDE time. Could tell it was a holiday weekend, usually about the only Gringo on the plane, lot's of hipster's and DudeBro's on the flight.

Meet my new wingman from USSG, Jerry. Airport bus to hotel in Centro.

Start WhatsApp'ing 2 other ISG members Nuupter & Gwl8012, both staying in El Poblado.

Take Jerry on tour of Redlight blocks, he was impressed with the quality for the $. Seemed weaker then last time to me.

Supposed to meet Nuupter for dinner but he's late, can't find a cab near his AirB&be, HA, stupid El Poblado, you trip over cabs in Centro.

Take Jerry to see Redlightbocks again, my 1st night trip to VeraCruz & Raudal, quite a lively set of blocks 7 pm on a Fri, told Jerry it wasn't a good idea to hang there, did a quick tour of Conejitas, Barra Ejectiva and Maricaibo, meet Nuupter w / Jerry at BrasePan for dinner (about 16 k eack, 2 steaks and a trout w / fries & salad, Apple Fanta- yum.).

Hit Conejitas with them (they actually carded 25 yo Nuupter! Hahaha.) to meet Gw with Nup. & Jerry. , quite loud, quite packed, 40 or so girls on, no cover, cheap drinks, top 4 to 5 girls Fase Dos hot, I grab a girl 1st, Evelyn (it's so funny they all pick American names they can barely pronounce), she wants 80 k include room, I give her 100 k, 1st time upstairs at Conejitas (which means "Litttle Bunnies" but better translates as "Playmates" have only done takeout there before 50 k fee), room was clean, fan / shower / well lit, she was hot and possibly multi orgasmic (she played with her clit during) Got her WhatsApp, told her maybe Mon.

Gw and Nup both do a girl, then we all head down to BarraEjectiva as I was starting to lose my voice shouting over the music, wow, lots of really busty girls, 30 or so, not as crowded or hot as Conej. I tell the boys I will go next door and check out Maricaibo, maybe 15 girls, less then 10 guys (how does that place stay open? Little hottie spinner 19 yo Emily comes on strong, real cute and sassy, I say what the hell, the boys will wait, I'm the only one who speaks Spanish. LOL. Gave her 100 k (wants 80 k) 1st time doing it there too, (did take out with the mature Venz. Bombshell Rachel last time) Under the bar, room a little small, but fan and shower. Damn, she was so tight I spent the whole time trying to get all the way in!! Will repeat with her, OMG! Forgot to trade WhatsApp like a idiot.

Go pick up the boys, cab to FaseII, 11 ish, 10 k entry fee ea, 50+ girls on, none I would have said no to, a good mix of natural and silicone Goddesses, top 5+ spectacular. Cheapest we could get by with for 4 of us at a table was 145 k, 1 small bottle Aquardiente and 2 beers, ouch. Gw picks one around 12 ish, I pick one too but god was my ass dragging low. 190 k incld room's which are top of the line.

Thank God she pulls out a little Bolivian Marching Powder which jump starts me after the 4 hrs sleep and about 4 shots Aquardiente. LOL. She looked crazy hot naked, great tit's but can't remember her name. LOL. Maybe Beverly? I come out 1 am-ish and say I am done, me & Jerry cab to Centro and Nup cabs back to his AirB&be, Jw stays. Well we somehow wander into Yakusa at 1:30 am. LOL. Pretty low quality at this moment but they allow free takeout to close by hotels, 45 k 1/2 HR, 60 k HR and some times have little hottie spinners and you can sit on the couch and have a beer cheap.

The 2 cutest ones take off so I pick nobody but Jerry finally steps up to the plate and pulls 2 back to his room, both 19 yo-ish. Go Jerry!

I pass out in room 2 ish.

The Conejitas girl.

Wolf662
09-08-17, 03:58
Saturday.

Couldn't sleep, up at 7:30 am Meet Jerry & Nap, 9 ish, hit Banco Colombia ATM on Junin Walking street, like that one, armed guard stands right there, great breakfast at Salon Versalles, ham & eggs with hot rolls, cafe con leche, fresh juice for $5, hit Parque Bolivar next to cruise through the craft fair, peeked in Catedral Baslica Metropolitana de Medellin, the big brick church for some photos, then Tienda D1 for some food / drink for the room for the TLN girls. Head to VeraCruz redlight block to meet Gw, showed him & Nap and Jerry that block + Raudal, nothing we wanted, it was early. Cab to New Life, about 20 girls, seemed to be the off Team though, only one I like and the other guys agreed (although she was way hot, but we needed 4. LOL. Hoofed it over to Casa Paris on Car 47, no real cuties, next Zandaly, 1 or 2 cuties but around the corner on Calle 57 a was a place I didn't know, between Calle 47 and Oriental, a place with a blue mural on the wall, (pic below) small inside but 3 or 4 cute spinners there, we lost Gw there. LOL, but the rest of us liked the same one. So I said f**k it, let's head to Energy, very long slow cab ride later we go in. Maybe 15+ girls in the lineup, all 3 of us forgot the name / number of the ones we liked (don't think it was their A Team either) so we have to ask to see the whole lineup again like morons. LOL 145 k, ea, Jerry picks one, Nuupter picks 2, I pick one. Mine was god awful, very bad back-rub then rubs my junk with several lotions, one burned like hell, then she held her hand in the way to prevent full penetration, I said F this and showered and went to wait 30/40 minutes for my boys, Jerry says Lucianna was the best, let him pop twice, then continued with the massage! Full hour! Mines name was MariAnna I believe, nice tit job and some big ass implants I believe, pretty face, nice smile but the worst service. Cab back to Plaza Botero, much better crowd of girls now, several I liked, we turn the corner by the brick wall and their is a hot little spinner, who might have been 70 lbs wet with the flatest stomach and tiny waist possible, wanted her bad, braces and all, Luisa, (pic) but damn, looked like she may have been too young, claims she is 23, I ask for ID, says she has none, I said sorry, and moved on, so wish she had had some ID. We hit Raudal, packed, the big butt girl was there, lots of dudes drinking and partying, we moved on, Taberna Victoria was packed and hot as hell, Conejitas was packed and hot, be Team girls (4:40 ish) Grille Nueva Avenida was so packed it was like someone opened a oven door, walked over to Barra Ejectiva which was nice and cool and empty but only 3 girls on that early, Maracaibo has a few more, but only one doable. Peeked in Yakusa, weak selection. Have a 8 pm TLN date with Sofie my redhead anyway. Back to room for shower and break and write some of this up before I forget everything. Couldn't get the little VeraCruz spinner Luisa out of my head, decided to run over to Vera Cruz and get her name / number, she was still there, told her to bring her ID tomorrow and I'd take her to my hotel for 100 k. She might had lost her ID as she said it seems as she WhatsApp'ed me a copy of it as I was on the bus to the airport on my last day. Sigh.

Date with Sofie could have gone better, she has to work next morning so had to jet by 1 am, we did Parque Boston, dinner at Lilli A La Carte which I strongly don't recommend, Nup. And Louie had dates that were both expensive be*tches, (I told Nup to stop making all night dates with Facebook chicks he hasn't met yet) we all got temp tattoos in the park, mine a Wolf, LOL, drinks at Bar Mao, me and Sophie cabbed back to the hotel, drank, danced, she tried on dresses I brought and picked 2, fun passionate sex and put her in a cab, soon as the cab turned the corner I hit Conejitas which was on the down slope, at least 4 dudes passed out in the club, hot girls all gone, hit Maricaibo, which had 2 or 3 cute spinners and Barra Ejective which had a bunch of big titty girls, both were less crowed by then so not so damn hot, will say the walk to Conejitas is spookier then the walk to BarraEj. At 1:30 ish AM but ended up at Yakusa which had about 5 girls, one cute enough for the $, they asked me to translate for a older gringo who was hanging out, ISG dude from Nebraska, he goes "Are you Wolf? LOL, I am, how the hell did you guess that, he said I was wandering Centro at 1:30 am by myself. LOL. So 45 k to take her, Andrea back to my hotel across the street (I really hate Yakusa's Unibomber Shack motif) she turned out to be the most fun of the day! GFE, danced, drank, french, we both had a blast in bed. I showed her some of the clothes, what she wanted was my nice Marriott beach towel I brought with me. LOL. I said sure! Tipped her 20 k for the awesome time, Nup's WhatsApping me to go out but going on 2 am and reached my daily budget of $ and 3 girls. Must sleep.

Wolf662
09-08-17, 05:58
Yes, Colombia is just like Thailand and Vietnam, except with a murder rate 18 times higher than Vietnam and 7 times higher than Thailand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rateBut most of those are Colombian's murdering Colombian's, they get about 3 million tourists a year, over 400,000 are American's, I think I tracked about 10 dead US over a 10 yr period, mostly drug deals gone wrong or resisting armed robbery. The over-all Colombian rate is around 28 dead per 100,000 per year, but 1 US out of 400,000 per year would be a rate of point. 25 per 100,000. Much safer, too much heat to kill a tourist, the cops will actually work that case. (Although not 100% sure if that was 10 in all of Colombia or just MDE, looked into it months back).

And Jamaica, the Bahamas and USA Virgin Islands all have a higher murder rate and nobodies afraid to go there.

Combo
09-08-17, 12:59
Yes, Colombia is just like Thailand and Vietnam, except with a murder rate 18 times higher than Vietnam and 7 times higher than Thailand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rateYes that was a weird thing to read.

Yoshine
09-08-17, 16:52
Do the girls in Colombia go for bareback sex?LOL they all do if you have enough money.

Kelso1
09-08-17, 17:40
Do the girls in Colombia go for bareback sex?Last I heard there are many babies being born in Colombia.

Oh I guess you meant working girls. There are some, but it takes hard work to get that. I'm talking about girls that are rated 6,and higher. The glue girls will do anything for another bag. Are you sure you want to go that route?

If I were you I would consider working on BBBJ, instead of the other most risky path.

Dickhead
09-08-17, 19:15
And Jamaica, the Bahamas and USA Virgin Islands all have a higher murder rate and nobodies afraid to go there.I know many, many people who have had problems in Jamaica with robberies, both with and without violence. I have never been to the U.S. Virgin Islands but The Bahamas is about my least favorite country of over 50 I have visited, and Jamaica sucks in my book as well.

A lot of people aren't afraid to go to Jamaica and The Bahamas, because they stay in their beach resort and at other touristic type places. They don't go, for example, 'over the hill' in Nassau. So it's not really the same as going into the hood to pick up hookers. I have not been to Vietnam but to equate the level of violence in Thailand with that of Colombia is just absurd. And as far as it just being colombianos killing other colombianos, have you ever heard the phrase 'collateral damage'? You think they care if they take out a bystander or two?

Dickhead
09-08-17, 19:17
but 1 US out of 400,000 per year would be a rate of point. 25 per 100,000. You may wish to review that math. You are off by a factor of 100, which tends to erode your credibility.

Wolf662
09-08-17, 21:34
You may wish to review that math. You are off by a factor of 100, which tends to erode your credibility.Which part is off by a factor of a hundred?

I have data:

# of tourists:

3.3 million in 2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Colombia

Arrivals by country:

United States 498,960 (over my 400,000 figure).

Are you saying 10 x 100 =1,000 US tourists were killed in Colombia in the last 10 years? The figure of 10 I got came from either the State Dept or Colombia Reports, can't remember which, I also stated I didn't not remember if that was just Medellin or whole country.

Looking at the State Dept Stats I get 18 US dead from homicide in the last 5 years countrywide, 1/11 to 1/16. (going back further will skew the stats as Colombia has been getting safer).

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/statistics/deaths.html

Of those only 5 were in Medellin and 1 in Bello.

Don't see anything off by a factor of hundred.

Sho423
09-08-17, 21:55
Anyone in Medellin tonight want to hit up a strip club?

Wolf662
09-08-17, 22:46
Day 3, Sun.

Up at 7:45 (man I can not sleep more then 5 hrs or so in MDE).

Nup has a prepago / Fb date, LOL, taking Gw and Jerry to breakfast then VeraCruz / Raudal, then metro to Mayoista for a 1st time visit.

Met Queens35 in Plaza Botero and showed him VeraCruz & Raudal, he likes a Raudal chick and we parted.

Nup got stood up, LOL, came with us to Mayorista.

Sunday early afternoon subpar time for Mayorista but GW did a girl, we sat in a sidewalk cafe and had a drink, then Gw wanted to show us his El Poblado AirB&be, I don't care for that part of town, not gritty enough for me, I lived 5 years in Puntarenas, Costa Rica and Centro makes me feel at home.

They wanted to walk El Poblado, I was feeling a little off, took off, did a VeraCruz curcuit but Sunday afternoon offerings were weak, went back to the room just in time for what I now call "Bolivar's Revenge". LOL, I had some street meat on a stick the day before and it came back to haunt me with a passion, throwing up, squirts, shakes, hot flashes, didn't even feel good enough to get my antibiotics out of the bathroom plus I couldn't keep anything down.

Was bummed, I thought I'd be in bed the last 3 days of the trip.

Finally passed out and my boys came over at 10 pm, I felt somewhat better, did 1000 MG of Amocicillin and sucked down a bunch of water, showered and took off with Nup on a hunt, we did Maricabo first and there was my Venz Bombshell from last time looking hot as ever, she is mid 30's, 5'11", has rocking hard body and top of the line breast job, speaks english too but Nup is very picky and we moved on to Barra Ejectiva, he said no, we walked to Conejitas, that block is scarier after 11 then the BarraEjectiva block, sort of post nuclear apocalyptic waste land feel, the line up was a little weak so we cabbed over to Luna Lunera, my 1st visit, nice, only 6-8 chciks but 1 was a 10 to me, 5'2' perfect natural DD's beautiful face, little waist, Marianna, wanted her bad but Nup didn't like anything again so off to FaseII, not their A-Team, back to Luna Lunera (no cover, no pushy dude trying to sell you drinks, did a 1/2 HR with Mariana, 140 k, looked smoking with that little waist and natural DD's, fun too, but the room was too dark and hot, got her WhatsApp for a date at my hotel Monday, told her 250 k, waited for Nup who did the HR with her friend, then cabbed back to Centro, Nup jetted home, I wandered into Yakusa 1 am-ish, saw my girlie Andrea, told her we'd go to my hotel and then of course a new super little hottie comes out. Damn!

The new girl Rosanna, beautiful cat eyes, smoking little hot bod, fresh look, goes around with a hat for tips and then does a super sexy floor show down to nude at Yakusa using a chair as a prop, nice, I take Andrea over to my hotel (45 k) then walk her back and as soon as she goes in the back I ask the new girl Rosanna to come back to my hotel, LOL, now past 2 am, she looked great naked and was a little different, kept her shoes on and covered her face with a pillow half way through, screamed into it, I kinda liked it. And I was puking my guts out earlier that night, way to Rally! She left and I past out 3 am. Whewww.

Dickhead
09-08-17, 23:57
You may wish to review that math. You are off by a factor of 100, which tends to erode your credibility.But then again, it could have been the correcting software. My apologizes if it was. In any case, 1 out of 400,000 (although a made-up number based on anecdotal knowledge) is either point 25 per 100 thousand or . 25 per 100 thousand. Hopefully the software will let this sentence stand as is.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/06/22/killing-3-foreigners-past-2-weeks-causing-alarm-in-colombia-medellin.html

Three in two weeks does not exactly extrapolate out to one per year. But then again, neither does five:

https://colombiareports.com/japanese-becomes-4th-foreigner-killed-medellin-year/

Hmm but Medellíand only has 5% of the country's population. So if five were killed by November in Medellíand alone, then 100 were killed in the overall country by Nov. So figure 125 gringos a year are killed in Colombia. Of course, that is just using bullshit extrapolation but certainly more than one gringo is getting killed per year in Medellíand.

Wolf662
09-09-17, 00:11
Sunday. Details foggy, getting exhausted. Still a little sick.

I know we cruised Vera Cruz and Raudal, did some shopping. My first attempted jack happened, saw two cute spinner chicks headed into Botero Plaza, 1 white /1 black, I get ahead of them, the black one come up and grabs my ass, I stop to talk to the cuter one and the black one reaches into my pocket, nice try, chapstick and eye drops, $ is in lower pocket and money belt, I break away. See ya!

Had my Luna Lunera girl Marianna to the room for a 7 pm tryst, she was so hot I just offered her 300 k as I didn't want any chance of no or her flaking out. She comes over a bit Colombian, IE a hour late, we skip dinner and just go to my room, she's as hot and sweet as I remember, if you want a not fat chick with pretty face and awesome natural DD's she is your girl.

She splits, me and the boys start the circuit, BE / Maracaibo / Conejitas / Yakusa. Kinda early so not much yet, we cab to Grille SanDiego in the rain for my 1st visit, 10 k entry, I ask the door guy how many girls on, he says 20, yeah right, go in 3 not so hot girls on floor, I say see ya and we cab to FaseII, 20 girls on, some super hot as usual, meet a natural stunner spinner Estrella, 21 yo, beautiful face, slender body, perky tits, awesome tattoos, sweet attitude, I say lets do it, 190 k on site, WOW, one of those rare girls that is twice as hot naked, no stretch marks, scars, saggy anything, my jaw hits the floor. Real fun and passionate, get her # for her to come over Tues, again go high with 300 k cause damn I don't want to a no to be even possible. Jerry then see's her and pays the 190 k, I joked to Gw and Nup we were doing a slow train and they were next, flip for caboose. LOL.

After we jet back to Con / BE / Mar / Yak and I fall in lust with my Venz bombshell Rachel again, she's like 5'11" and has a very hard body / great tit job, tell her to come over for TLN, 300 k, (my budget was 900 k a day this time, good week at work before I left, LOL) when she gets off at 2 am, meanwhile we grab some food at Brase Pan and end up in Yakusa / BE till almost 2, she comes, tries on some dresses, likes 2 and the blond wig, LOL, we dance, drink, then I almost fall asleep when she remembers I have hot water, like a hour long shower, then we trade like hour long back rubs and get down, asleep at 4 am. Yikes.

Wolf662
09-09-17, 00:20
But then again, it could have been the correcting software. My apologizes if it was. In any case, 1 out of 400,000 (although a made-up number based on anecdotal knowledge) is either point 25 per 100 thousand or . 25 per 100 thousand. Hopefully the software will let this sentence stand as is.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/06/22/killing-3-foreigners-past-2-weeks-causing-alarm-in-colombia-medellin.html

Three in two weeks does not exactly extrapolate out to one per year. But then again, neither does five:

https://colombiareports.com/japanese-becomes-4th-foreigner-killed-medellin-year/

Hmm but Medelland only has 5% of the country's population. So if five were killed by November in Medelland alone, then 100 were killed in the overall country by Nov. So figure 125 gringos a year are killed in Colombia. Of course, that is just using bullshit extrapolation but certainly more than one gringo is getting killed per year in Medelland.Only 19 gringos killed entire country last 5 years (2011-2016) according to State Dept data, link in last post on subject, 5 of those in MDE and 1 in Bello.

Also MDE metro area is about 3.7 million, out of a population of 48 million is more like 7.7%.

Lou32
09-09-17, 00:44
Do the girls in Colombia go for bareback sex?"You can get anything for a price that you pay but there is a price that you pay for anything you get".

Wolf662
09-09-17, 01:24
Which part is off by a factor of a hundred?

I have data:

# of tourists:

3.3 million in 2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Colombia

Arrivals by country:

United States 498,960 (over my 400,000 figure).

Are you saying 10 x 100 =1,000 US tourists were killed in Colombia in the last 10 years? The figure of 10 I got came from either the State Dept or Colombia Reports, can't remember which, I also stated I didn't not remember if that was just Medellin or whole country..Extrapolating from that hard data we get 3. 6 dead per year out of roughly 500,000 US visitors, so we got point. 72 dead per 100,000 per year, Vs 26.5/100.000 dead Colombians, so yes, my original point stands, mostly by far Colombians killing Colombians. You can still be in the wrong place at the wrong time, but the US avg rate is 4.8 per 100,000 so Colombia is actually safer then the US for US tourists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Wolf662
09-09-17, 01:27
Day 3, Sun.
.....so we cabbed over to Luna Lunera, my 1st visit, nice, only 6-8 chciks but 1 was a 10 to me, 5'2' perfect natural DD's beautiful face, little waist, Marianna, wanted her bad but Nup didn't like anything again so off to FaseII, not their A-Team, back to Luna Lunera (no cover, no pushy dude trying to sell you drinks, did a 1/2 HR with Mariana, 140 k, looked smoking with that little waist and natural DD's, fun too, but the room was too dark and hot, got her WhatsApp.....Another Mariana pic.

Wolf662
09-09-17, 02:38
But then again, it could have been the correcting software. My apologizes if it was. In any case, 1 out of 400,000 (although a made-up number based on anecdotal knowledge) is either point 25 per 100 thousand or

Of course, that is just using bullshit extrapolation but certainly more than one gringo is getting killed per year in Medelland.Yes I meant point 25.

And the numbers for the last 5 years do show 1 dead gringo a year in Medellin. (and one in Bellow over 5 years).

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/statistics/deaths.html

Fun Luvr
09-09-17, 04:48
But then again, it could have been the correcting software. My apologizes if it was. In any case, 1 out of 400,000 (although a made-up number based on anecdotal knowledge) is either point 25 per 100 thousand or . 25 per 100 thousand. Hopefully the software will let this sentence stand as is.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/06/22/killing-3-foreigners-past-2-weeks-causing-alarm-in-colombia-medellin.html

Three in two weeks does not exactly extrapolate out to one per year. But then again, neither does five:

https://colombiareports.com/japanese-becomes-4th-foreigner-killed-medellin-year/

Hmm but Medelland only has 5% of the country's population. So if five were killed by November in Medelland alone, then 100 were killed in the overall country by Nov. So figure 125 gringos a year are killed in Colombia. Of course, that is just using bullshit extrapolation but certainly more than one gringo is getting killed per year in Medelland.Wolf is talking about tourists from the US. In the article you linked to, the author states that he can only confirm the killing of four foreigners: a Japanese, a Mexican, an Israeli, and a Danish citizen. Maybe the fifth was from the US.

Either way, I feel as safe in Medellin as I do in Florida, especially now that a hurricane is threatening to blow me away!

Also, I'd rather talk about Wolf's new friend Rosanna. I like how she looks; and a screamer is added value.

UsbDawg
09-09-17, 06:23
Amazing guy. Looking forward to hanging with you locally my friend. Enjoyed meeting all of his friends, wish I had more time to hang out with everyone. I have met so many good friends in Medellin, my time is limited to just a week. Nuuptor had a great review of his week, I really appreciate reading your review. Cool meeting up with you and the gang. The casas are a bargain and the street behind the Parque Botero museum has some amazing bargains. Most girls for 30-50 mil. Wow!

Wolf662
09-09-17, 17:16
Amazing last week. Great meeting the "Wolfpack"
Amazing guy. Looking forward to hanging with you locally my friend. Enjoyed meeting all of his friends, wish I had more time to hang out with everyone!We're like VISA. "Everywhere you want to be! LOL.

Dickhead
09-09-17, 17:19
Extrapolating from that hard dataWhat 'hard data' are those? Anecdotally you heard one US tourist was killed, but I provided a link showing that several were killed in the same year.

Anyway, to compare the entire US with Medelland centro is a bit preposterous. And anyone who's been to both Thailand and Colombia and finds the level of danger to be similar, either has a very unique perspective or just plain has his head up his ass.

Wolf662
09-09-17, 17:40
What 'hard data' are those? Anecdotally you heard one US tourist was killed, but I provided a link showing that several were killed in the same year..You must have missed a post then, that would be the State Dept website figures, hardly anecdotal, 5 year avg of 3. 6 dead Americans per year out of around 500,000 visitors per yr, with around 1.2 a year avg being killed in MDE if we include Bello.

Over all that makes the Colombia avg rate of point 72 per 100,000 safer the the avg US rate of 4. 8. Will your chances go up at 2 am wandering around Centro drunk with a wad of cash? For sure.

Wolf662
09-09-17, 18:26
Day 5/6 Tues / Weds.

Wake up 9:30 ish, Rachel still passed out, I head down to pay hotel bill for 5 days, find Jerry coming in with a little cutie takeout from Yakusa (45 k), bit later Jerry comes over to head to Salon Versalles for breakfast, Rachel gets up totally naked to say HI to Jerry. We all do breakfast, I message my fav Conejitas girl Tanaya who is in the Islands to warn her to get to high ground due to the approaching hurricane, she says she flew out early to avoid the storm and has been in MDE for a day! I make a dinner date with her, ditch Rachel, meet Nup w / Jerry for a VeraCruz run, finally the number and quality were back up, do some shopping, buy a awesome Colombian hammock for 60 k, a little old lady under the metro in Botero had the large Botero statues for 10 k, the same ones the shop had for 60 k, get one of those, the horsey. I am exhausted and go back to wait for my 4 pm with Estrella from Fase, OMG, she was on time, like 4:05 she shows up! How un-Colombian is that?! She tries on the last 2 girls items, likes them both and we dance a bit and then she strip teases while my tongue rolls down to the floor. She looks super hot naked again and is a fun and responsive little minx. Kick her at 5:30 ish to rest a bit since Tanya's 1st ETA was 7 ish, I think Tanya can hook my boys up at her club, she'll know who for how much. Planning on the tradional resturant La Hacienda on Paseo Junin with Tanya and the boys.

Estrella just WhatsApped me wants to come over tomorow AM before I go airport, depends what time I kick Tanya.

At this point need a vacation to recover from my vacation! Lower back starting to hurt. LOL.

Tanya can't make dinner, but we eat way to much and the food is so good there, but damn we can barely move we are so full, back to my hotel for a breather and wait for Tanya, she meets us 10 p, hit her club, dead, go to BarraEx next, Tanya knows all the hot ones, 20+ girls, usual mostly big titty types, a few very hot, (I thought) we drink there till almost 1 am-ish, ISG member Queens35 meets us with a bud of his, my boys can't find the one they want for the price they wanted. (most wanted 300 k TLN + 60 k club exit fee) Tanya is the life of the club as usual, doing shots, dancing, singing, inviting hotties over to sit with us.

Walk thru Maricibo a few times, pretty dead, 1 or 2 cuties + plus my Amazon Venz Rachel already dancing in the black dress I gave her.

Me & Tanya head back the 2 blocks in a cab due to rain, we drink, smoke, dance, back rubs, fun till 3 am-ish, get up 9 am more fun, go to breakfast at Brase Pan, hit the local mall to replace my watch-the band had broke, found a nice Casio store, found a nice dive watch pretty cheap.

Early bus to airport just in case. Spirit knocks back my conecting flt back 4 hrs, won't get home till past 3 am, have to be at work early, kill me now.

It's offical, I hate Spirit too now, MDE takeoff pushed past 5 p for a org 1:21 flt. Plus we sit on the runway for 1/2 HR because "They are paving some potholes". LOL. My connect in Ft Lauderdale pushed back 4 hrs, I'll lucky to get home by 3 am. I assuming I get out of here at all. Send laywers, guns and money!. LOL.

The end.

Wolf662
09-09-17, 21:48
On a side note my US Sugar Baby looks good in the MDE shirt I got her! Notice her size 4-1/2 feet. Petite!

(plus I got her some jewelry, bracelets, chocolates, coffee etc.).

Missed her enough to have her over my 1st night back, after I got home at 3 am and up at 8 am out to work in the heat. She be fine! 20 yo, natural DD's.

UsbDawg
09-10-17, 02:27
On a side note my US Sugar Baby looks good in the MDE shirt I got her! Notice her size 4-1/2 feet. Petite!

(plus I got her some jewelry, bracelets, chocolates, coffee etc.).

Missed her enough to have her over my 1st night back, after I got home at 3 am and up at 8 am out to work in the heat. She be fine! 20 yo, natural DD's.Dunno how you do it Wolf! Catch up with you after this crazy Hurricane Irma blows through here.

Fun Luvr
09-10-17, 05:11
What 'hard data' are those? Anecdotally you heard one US tourist was killed, but I provided a link showing that several were killed in the same year.The two links you provided were for foreign tourists killed in Medellin, but none of them were from the US.

World Travel 69
09-10-17, 15:36
And this thread is for Chit Chat.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3873-Medellin-Chit-Chat-Thread

Wolf662
09-10-17, 16:32
Amazing guy. Looking forward to hanging with you locally my friend. Enjoyed meeting all of his friends, wish I had more time to hang out with everyone. I have met so many good friends in Medellin, my time is limited to just a week. Nuuptor had a great review of his week, I really appreciate reading your review. Cool meeting up with you and the gang. The casas are a bargain and the street behind the Parque Botero museum has some amazing bargains. Most girls for 30-50 mil. Wow!Back at ya big daddy! Left you out of the story because I could not remember your screen name. But we ran into each other a lot for a city of 3 million, LOL. New Life, Mayorista subway (Ayura) and then down in Botero Plaza. About to bug out from my beach house, storm's getting close.

Surfer500
09-10-17, 22:49
Do the girls in Colombia go for bareback sex?If your looking for bareback sex then you will find it in El Centro if you have Spanish speaking skills and are prepared to pay for it. Risky business screwing Street hookers bareback but lots of them will if the price is right.

Gwl8012
09-11-17, 07:30
I had a great time with the Wolf Pack in MDE. I meet several guys from this group, and they all were great guys.

Wolf was very helpful and patient with us newbies, if you want a safe and great time in MDE, try to get Wolf to show you around.

I will do my best to meet Wolf on his next trip back to MDE.

Black Page
09-11-17, 12:07
Risky business screwing Street hookers bareback but lots of them will if the price is right.I am not sure whether it is more risky for them or for the one who is used to tempt them with money.

Balboa
09-11-17, 17:44
I had a great time with the Wolf Pack in MDE. I meet several guys from this group, and they all were great guys.

Wolf was very helpful and patient with us newbies, if you want a safe and great time in MDE, try to get Wolf to show you around.

I will do my best to meet Wolf on his next trip back to MDE.The #1 Wolf fan 😉 Lol

StripperMan
09-12-17, 05:03
I just posted this on the chit chat thread, but think it's better suited here.

I just did a 2-week trip to Bogota, and am going back in November. I'm trying to decide if it is a mistake not to book Medellin.

There is a reason gringos skip Bogota, and go right to Medellin. I'm wondering what that reason is?

My research says that Bogota has the same venues for chicas, and actually a higher volume of each. My research says there are more casas, escorts, strip clubs, clip-joint strip clubs, etc in Bogota than Medellin. My research also says the pricing is not that much cheaper if at all in Medellin (with the exception possibly being the north zone clip joints in Bogota).

So I am wondering why so many gringos have decided to skip Bogota and do Medellin? Maybe GFE is much more prevalent in Medellin than Bogota? That Bogota is one big "tourist trap" of poor service? Or maybe Bogota & the Santa Fe district are perceived as too dangerous? Or maybe my research on venues & pricing is flawed?

SpotBlocker
09-12-17, 10:23
I'll be in Medellin on 15th - 22nd and 26th - 27th also in Bogota 22nd - 26th pm if you want to hangout and show me the ropes this will be my first time in Medellin.

Dickhead
09-12-17, 19:01
There is a reason gringos skip Bogota, and go right to Medellin. I'm wondering what that reason is?Weather, and the relative size and navigability of the cities, are two likely factors. Then there is what I call the 'circular factor': more gringos go to Medellín because more other gringos go to Medellín. Plus the altitude in Bogotá can raise issues for flatlanders if they are only there for a short visit.

Turgid
09-12-17, 19:52
So I am wondering why so many gringos have decided to skip Bogota and do Medellin? The International Sex Guide.

Black Page
09-12-17, 19:55
Weather, and the relative size and navigability of the cities, are two likely factors. Then there is what I call the 'circular factor': more gringos go to Medelln because more other gringos go to Medelln. Plus the altitude in Bogot can raise issues for flatlanders if they are only there for a short visit.I like Bogota, but Medellin is undoubtedly a better place to stay for work: milder climate, cheaper things (hotel, restaurants and working girls), paisas divinas (I mean that), efficient transportation and less congestion. SHould I relocate for work, Medellin is where I would go.

P.S.: this is a question for ULTRA-regulars of Bogota. There is an area, south of CL. 19, probably west of Caracas, which I visited years ago by chance. Lots of small bars and music. Something like the NED in Centro of Medellin, but not an open-air sex district. Nothing like Santa Fe, I mean. The taxi driver told me the name of the area, but I forgot. Anyone knows some names of areas like that? I think it was even south of Bronx (RIP).


The International Sex Guide.
Yep LOL. The question then should have been maybe: "So I am wondering why so many gringos have decided to skip Bogota and go to Mansion?"

Black Page
09-12-17, 19:58
I just posted this on the chit chat thread, but think it's better suited here.The chit-chat thread is a dev/null sink. A honeypot to make chit-chat to stop. (bear with my, WT69. I love your work and I am grateful for everything you do).

Viajando Musico
09-12-17, 20:02
I just did a 2-week trip to Bogota, and am going back in November. I'm trying to decide if it is a mistake not to book Medellin.

There is a reason gringos skip Bogota, and go right to Medellin. I'm wondering what that reason is?For me, each city has its pros and cons. I had just revisited MED a few weeks ago. Before booking the trip, it was not an easy choice between the 2 cities. I had been to both a couple times each prior. Bogota definitely has a lot more options than Medellin in a monger's perspective. It's a much bigger city with probably 3 times the population. Here you will find chicas from all parts of Colombia, and unlike Medellin, nobody will question the purpose of your trip. You can easily blend in. But you will definitely pay higher prices for almost everything in Bogota including accommodation, food, chicas, taxis. Beside, weather in BOG is not as comfortable, traffic a lot worse and the altitude issue as the other member pointed out. So it really comes down to what you are looking for in your trip.

The Tall Man
09-12-17, 21:56
I just posted this on the chit chat thread, but think it's better suited here.

I just did a 2-week trip to Bogota, and am going back in November. I'm trying to decide if it is a mistake not to book Medellin.

There is a reason gringos skip Bogota, and go right to Medellin. I'm wondering what that reason is?

My research says that Bogota has the same venues for chicas, and actually a higher volume of each. My research says there are more casas, escorts, strip clubs, clip-joint strip clubs, etc in Bogota than Medellin. My research also says the pricing is not that much cheaper if at all in Medellin (with the exception possibly being the north zone clip joints in Bogota).

So I am wondering why so many gringos have decided to skip Bogota and do Medellin? Maybe GFE is much more prevalent in Medellin than Bogota? That Bogota is one big "tourist trap" of poor service? Or maybe Bogota & the Santa Fe district are perceived as too dangerous? Or maybe my research on venues & pricing is flawed?Some good opinions already made by some other verteran mongers, let me add my two cents:

I actually traveled to Bogota many times for about a three year period from 2009 through about 2011, I have some great experiences with rollo chicas, a few nights were off the charts as I partied like a rock star, but that was back 7 and 8 years ago and have not mongered in Bogota in over 5 years now as back in 2010 stated with the Paisas in medellin.

You can find plenty of suitable fun and adventurous chicas be it in medellin or Bogota, for me the weather in medellin hands-down blows away the cold and rainy Hi altitude medellin weather and is a big deciding factor for me and others.

I sit right now in my apartment in medellin and we had just a brief sprinkling of rain this morning but right now it is 70 f outside and I sit here in shorts with my balcony door fully opened.

As for chicas, we have a wide variety of venues, casas, prepagos, escorts, street walkers and the higher end clubs like La Isla and Fase Dos. Just a few hours ago I enjoyed a 20 yo escort, low mileage, cute and adorable, I paid 200,000 plus her taxi, her fee was 150,000 but since her service was GF like experience, and it was, I gave her a 50 mil propina. She was the third escort I have had over in the past 8 days. I will repeat with her.

The medellin casa girls can be had for about 50 mil to 100 mil depending the length of time and the casa.

I suggest that you visit medellin next trip, you will be back.

TTM.

MedellinGringo
09-12-17, 23:55
I just posted this on the chit chat thread, but think it's better suited here.

I just did a 2-week trip to Bogota, and am going back in November. I'm trying to decide if it is a mistake not to book Medellin.

There is a reason gringos skip Bogota, and go right to Medellin. I'm wondering what that reason is?

My research says that Bogota has the same venues for chicas, and actually a higher volume of each. My research says there are more casas, escorts, strip clubs, clip-joint strip clubs, etc in Bogota than Medellin. My research also says the pricing is not that much cheaper if at all in Medellin (with the exception possibly being the north zone clip joints in Bogota).

So I am wondering why so many gringos have decided to skip Bogota and do Medellin? Maybe GFE is much more prevalent in Medellin than Bogota? That Bogota is one big "tourist trap" of poor service? Or maybe Bogota & the Santa Fe district are perceived as too dangerous? Or maybe my research on venues & pricing is flawed?If casas are your thing and you just want to get as much bang for your buck as possible and aren't offended by a fairly impersonal sexual experience then Bogota is the way to go.

If you are more inclined to GFE. Then Medellin is the way to go. Keep in mind that you will have to connect with chicks through facebook and set up appointments on your own. As the casa experience in Medellin isn't any better than in Bogota.

If you don't have a list of contacts on facebook then I strongly suggest you look into staying at the Mansion in Medellin. As it is the only place I have found that consistently has short time girls that give BBBJ with no up sell and a full blown GFE is the norm.

Blue Touch
09-13-17, 01:27
Is that there are more varieties of restaurants. It is difficult to eat cooked vegetable dish or a variety of fish dishes in Medellin and other cities. Also there is more variety in working girls, and there are more cultural and artistic events in Bogotá.

StripperMan
09-13-17, 06:00
I'd like to thank all you guys for the quick replies. I have a much better idea now of why Medellin is more populated with gringos. The climate, altitude, cost of living, and in some areas GFE is all better in Medellin, and word has traveled in the monger network.

In the two weeks I was in Bogotá I got lucky in that it barely rained the whole time. However the sun didn't come out much either. And as for wearing shorts & a t-shirt on a balcony. Well lets just say if you are brave you can wear jeans & a short sleeve shirt for about an hour or two in the afternoon. Otherwise, it's sleeves required at all times. Also, I never got used to the altitude completely, and I am in pretty decent shape & drink a lot of water.

Fortunately, the prices for lodging, food, etc were not a problem for me. After spending so much time in Tijuana, Mexico & the Dominican Republic, the costs of those things in Bogotá were almost half what I am used to. The lower costs in Medellin would feel like a give-away to me.

What strongly attracts me to Medellin is the idea that GFE is more readily available there. However, the notion that one better go to Medellin with pre-prepared Facebook hookups, etc says to me that GFE is maybe a little more available there than in Bogotá, but not really.

I'm not a casa guy or escort guy really. I much prefer the strip cubs, the non clip-joint ones. I'd like to believe that I will cruise into the 3 strip clubs near Degrief (or is it el centro), and see many more soft sweet chicas than I did at Fiebre or Troya, etc. I'd like to believe that 2-3 out of ten will be GFE material instead of the 1 out of 10 at best that it is in Bogotá.

Probably not the case though huh?

Black Page
09-13-17, 15:04
However, the notion that one better go to Medellin with pre-prepared Facebook hookups, etc says to me that ...........
I'm not a casa guy or escort guy really. I much prefer the strip cubs, the non clip-joint ones......Go to Medellin and enjoy, following YOUR attitude and personal compass. "To each his own" and "YMMV" are the rules. I bet you will love Medellin and you will never want to come back. (and forget also Facebook "supermodels", unless you are interested to try girls already mastering the art of entertaining rich gringos).

Questionable, but my opinion.

Balboa
09-13-17, 15:15
Go to Medellin and enjoy, following YOUR attitude and personal compass. "To each his own" and "YMMV" are the rules. I bet you will love Medellin and you will never want to come back. (and forget also Facebook "supermodels", unless you are interested to try girls already mastering the art of entertaining rich gringos).

Questionable, but my opinion.Well put BP.

GFE from lower end strip club girls is entirely possible.

Most depends on you and your personality, language skill, etc.

Combo
09-13-17, 16:28
Is that there are more varieties of restaurants. It is difficult to eat cooked vegetable dish or a variety of fish dishes in Medellin and other cities. Also there is more variety in working girls, and there are more cultural and artistic events in Bogot.Bogota logically has more of everything -- hot women, restaurants, clubs, culture. It should as it's 3 times bigger than MDE.

I'll take the perfect 78 degree weather and lower altitude of MDE every day.

MedellinGringo
09-13-17, 18:44
I'm not a casa guy or escort guy really. I much prefer the strip cubs, the non clip-joint ones. I'd like to believe that I will cruise into the 3 strip clubs near Degrief (or is it el centro), and see many more soft sweet chicas than I did at Fiebre or Troya, etc. I'd like to believe that 2-3 out of ten will be GFE material instead of the 1 out of 10 at best that it is in Bogot.

Probably not the case though huh?The odds are not in your favor.

You should do exactly what I said. Book a room at the Mansion. It is a completely different environment than strip clubs and casas.

The girls there know the value in giving a GFE as they know that they will see you again if you are staying there.

Girls in strip clubs and casas have so many one time customers that the idea of giving excellent service to cultivate a following just doesn't really occur to them.

At the Mansion girls have gone from rags to riches building a cult following and other chicks take notice.

YippieKayay
09-13-17, 20:05
I'm not a casa guy or escort guy really. I much prefer the strip cubs, the non clip-joint ones. I'd like to believe that I will cruise into the 3 strip clubs near Degrief (or is it el centro), and see many more soft sweet chicas than I did at Fiebre or Troya, etc. I'd like to believe that 2-3 out of ten will be GFE material instead of the 1 out of 10 at best that it is in Bogot.

Probably not the case though huh?Cartagena has hookers at the late night clubs (after 11 pm onwards). There's only one "strip club" in the old city. Everything else late at night tends to have some hookers. But it's a more expensive city.

Eric Cartman
09-14-17, 01:35
The odds are not in your favor.

You should do exactly what I said. Book a room at the Mansion. It is a completely different environment than strip clubs and casas.

The girls there know the value in giving a GFE as they know that they will see you again if you are staying there.

Girls in strip clubs and casas have so many one time customers that the idea of giving excellent service to cultivate a following just doesn't really occur to them.

At the Mansion girls have gone from rags to riches building a cult following and other chicks take notice.Is there a good "beginner's guide to the Mansion" post here somewhere, that's still somewhat current? I poked through a number of pages (RTTF) but didn't quite figure it out.

-Cartman.

Black Page
09-14-17, 01:39
You should do exactly what I said. Book a room at the Mansion. It is a completely different environment than strip clubs and casas.
The girls there know the value in giving a GFE as they know that they will see you again if you are staying there.
Girls in strip clubs and casas have so many one time customers that the idea of giving excellent service to cultivate a following just doesn't really occur to them.
At the Mansion girls have gone from rags to riches building a cult following and other chicks take notice.Girls at Mansion give GFE?? But girls in clubs not, because they have too many customers??
I have never been at Mansion, because I thought it was difficult to find fresh first-timers. You offer a new perspective. ROFL.
Your advice seems biased to me, to say the least.


Is there a good "beginner's guide to the Mansion" post here somewhere, that's still somewhat current?.
Mansion is a place organized and conceived mainly for Americans, who need a guide and penis-feeding on site (the P4P version of spoon-feeding). So now there is the need of a "beginner's guide" for first-time users of a spoon-feeding guide? Man, the world is complex.

RobertTx
09-14-17, 03:53
I spent 2 nights there 2 years ago. Live in Laureles 3 or 4 months out of a year.

https://www.google.com/maps/@6.2011743, -75.5717491,3 a,75 why,132.32 h,80.64 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 ssm5 tyjYTK-wTUckLuyWV7 w!2 e0!7 i13312!8 i6656.

Gwl8012
09-14-17, 05:05
I would never over pay at the mansion, knowing it is much cheaper just down the street.

But I have never seen a place like Medellin, where no one knows English!

Wolf made it possible for me to enjoy Medellin, because he grew up in Costa Rica and knows Spanish.

Fase dos has all real 10's for 190 k peso's (less than $60.00) 15+ every night.

Many of the casa's have 6-8's for 40 K. (less than $13.00).

Many other strip clubs have 6-9's for 80 k-130 k peso (about $24.00 - $39.00).

You can stay at Hotel Botero for $30.00 a night. Double opp.

But if you don't know any spanish you will have a tough time.

https://www.expedia.com/Medellin-Hotels-Hotel-Botero-Medellin.h3620792.Hotel-Information?regionId=2246&langid=1033&semcid=US.UB.GOOGLE.SEARCH.HOTEL&kword=Medellin_hotels_dsa!e. ZzZz. 4830000015775.0. 196246232050. Medellin_hotels_dsa&semdtl=a1386665348. B123848375228. D1196246232050. E1 c. F11 t1. G1 dsa-156388092275. H1 b. I1. J19028758. K11003654. L1 g. M1. N1&gclid=Cj0 KCQjwruPNBRCKARIsAEYNXIivXrP8 a2 nrOUSjfvzz3 bXDVkt8_mU5 vYhW3 FU143 KHPoOBgTMvQHcaAhy8 EALw_wcB.

MedellinGringo
09-14-17, 08:25
Girls at Mansion give GFE?? But girls in clubs not, because they have too many customers??
I have never been at Mansion, because I thought it was difficult to find fresh first-timers. You offer a new perspective. ROFL.
Your advice seems biased to me, to say the least.

I don't think my opinions are necessarily biased but they are anecdotal and of course YMMV.

I found the highest percentage of GFE at the Mansion. I'd estimate 75 percent on average.

I don't know why Club girls don't give a GFE as much as the Mansion chicks. But my guess would be. Because they don't feel it will get them much on average.

From my experience about 25 percent of Club girls will give a GFE if you pay the multa and take them out of the club. It drops down to 10 percent or less if you do them at the club.

I have also found that you can increase the odds of club chicks giving you a GFE to about 50% if you get their phone number and they actually show up at your apartment for a TLN instead of going to work at the club.

But dealing with women that have worked the clubs is a headache for the most part. When you say that you want a TLN and try to get a price out of them. They often want you to tell them how many hours she will spend with you. The whole idea of spending a mutually enjoyable time together. So you want to see them again and again. Seems to be a foreign concept to most of them. But not all.

The only upside to club chicks is that there are more hotter chicks on average than at the Mansion. And that's it. With casa chicks you have the same pitfalls as the Club chicks except they are less attractive on average then the Mansion women.

The absolute best way to get the hottest chicks with the highest percentage of GFE is through facebook. Sky is the limit on looks and they often want less than the best looking girls at the clubs. Only draw back to facebook is that it is a time consuming process to friend and sell the idea of them selling their ass to you. Often times you will find women that are working facebook for clients. Usually they worked at the Mansion in the past or other venues. But they are still much more likely to give a good GFE than Club chicks. Just because they value repeat customers. And plenty quit working clubs so they would have more control over who they are doing. Which is a good thing. If you are looking for a true GFE.

For the guys that are really interested in a GFE. Anytime a girl flakes on you and is a no show. She did you a huge favor. Because it would have really sucked if she had been hard up enough to actually show up.

And if you can't get a replacement for your no show. You can always roll the dice at the clubs.

Mr Enternational
09-14-17, 17:13
I don't know why Club girls don't give a GFE as much as the Mansion chicks. But my guess would be. Because they don't feel it will get them much on average.Not my experience at all. I constantly get GFE from strip club and casa chicks and I don't give all those tips and taxi money shits nor do I buy them drinks. I just pay the basic price in the casas and the negotiated price in the strip clubs. And even if I didn't get the GFE, for $12 in a casa or $20 in a strip club I don't think I can go wrong. It costs that much just to walk in the door of a strip club back home where I more than likely will not get to fuck.

How many chicks are usually at the Mansion versus the hundreds in the casas and strip clubs?

PepolesBuddy
09-14-17, 18:09
Not my experience at all. I constantly get GFE from strip club and casa chicks?I am definitely all about GFE. I find prepagos, strippers, street walkers, webcam models, and semi-pros to be too hardened for me. I've been in Mde twice and have never set foot in a casa or strip club. I was tempted but I usually go by myself to Mde and don't feel safe in areas where they are usually located.

I've had great success on SA. Although my batting average is lower than most that look for the hardened ones I mentioned. For example I only fucked 3/40 girls I original messaged. The 3 I was initimate with were amazing. Easily an 8 or 9 in looks on *** and 9/10 performance. The best part was that they showed me places and things that I would've never thought to do. Like joining me to guatape, rio negro, inviting me to their universities to smoke weed and show me off to their friends, showing me their favorite activities and gems in the city that's not in a tourist guide. And the best part is all 3 were down with being choked, anal, CIM, bareback, rimming etc. True GFE. The way I fucked these girls and had rough sex with them was almost out of the scenes from 50 shades of grey or a porno and they loved it!. Hell I even fucked all 3 on the balcony of my high rise airbnb overlooking the amazing views of Mde and out in the open! Anyone could see us if they knew where to look when we were fucking on my balcony haha.They treated me like their BF and always were so happy to sleep overnight in my airbnb. I just treat them like normal everyday women and expect the same respect.

The best part is, they never want any money from me. I usually give them $100.000 mil pesos ($35 usd) for all day / night as a thank you but after the 2nd or 3rd time they don't accept my gifts. They are just happy to be treated like special ladies doing fun activities with me and eating at expensive places. Well expensive for colombian standards but cheap for USA standards.

Anyways. My question to you gents is what has your experience on SA, OKC, and tinder? Which dating app is best? I use SA because I am also on it in the states. Also with SA there is incentive for the chicas to meet you because they think you are a rich sugar daddy and usually never flake. The problem I've noticed is that the user base in Mde for SA is small and 50% of the chicas are hardened pros.

What's a bette dating app? Tinder or OKC to meet Chicas in Mde?

Black Page
09-14-17, 18:26
Not my experience at all. I constantly get GFE from strip club and casa chicks and I don't give all those tips and taxi money shits nor do I buy them drinks.
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How many chicks are usually at the Mansion versus the hundreds in the casas and strip clubs?Sure.

I remember a girl from Luna Lunera. After the standard deed in one of those room, I took her phone and we met out of the club. We went to dance and drink in a bar of La 70, not far from LL. She even wanted me to speak with her mum, who was calling her and wanted to know if she was safe or doing nasty things. We met a couple more times, but then she became "too much" GFE and started to demand gifts that for me were out of question. Our friendship ended in Mangos.

I had a fantastic GF who was working as waitress in a swinger club.

Opportunities are endless, considered the number of streets, bars and clubs that make lively Medellin at night.

Different people has different concepts of what is "GFE", probably.

MedellinGringo
09-14-17, 19:55
Not my experience at all. I constantly get GFE from strip club and casa chicks and I don't give all those tips and taxi money shits nor do I buy them drinks. I just pay the basic price in the casas and the negotiated price in the strip clubs. And even if I didn't get the GFE, for $12 in a casa or $20 in a strip club I don't think I can go wrong. It costs that much just to walk in the door of a strip club back home where I more than likely will not get to fuck.

How many chicks are usually at the Mansion versus the hundreds in the casas and strip clubs?I know some guys can do that. I can't however. I can spend days walking all over el centro and not find one chick that I'd really want to do. And on the occasion that I do find one that I can do for 20 bucks. It really isn't something that I would do again.

I wish I was like you guys that can get value out of those kinds of experiences but sadly I can't seem to do that.

MedellinGringo
09-14-17, 20:15
Sure.

Different people has different concepts of what is "GFE", probably.

Yeah I think you are right about that but you'd think it would be obvious.

A GFE is well a girl that acts and fucks like your girlfriend does.

Likes to make out with you. Affectionate in public. Spends the night. Wakes up and initiates sex. Condom optional. BBBJ no extra charge. Never asks for money upfront and asks if she can come over again before she leaves in the morning or afternoon. Or better yet just stays with you a couple of days at a time.

PepolesBuddy
09-14-17, 20:44
I know some guys can do that. I can't however. I can spend days walking all over el centro and not find one chick that I'd really want to do. And on the occasion that I do find one that I can do for 20 bucks. It really isn't something that I would do again.

I wish I was like you guys that can get value out of those kinds of experiences but sadly I can't seem to do that.Give those apps a shot. What I like about SA is that the girls already know you are looking for sex. But I also treat it like regular dating. If there's no chemistry, then next girl! I don't even bother with pros or semi-pros. The thing with SA is that although you are willing to give money for intimacy. I make it clear to the chicas that I'm not interested in prepagos and that I'm looking for amiga con derecho or novia when I am in town. If something develops then awesome. If not then both parties knows that its an arrangement. I do not gift before intimacy. The chicas that I sleep with usually never bring up money at all and are happy to just have a nice dinner, nice date, and amazing sex with an extranjero. The thing is to seduce them like you would with regular dating. Since I'm new to Medellin. I ask them to think of creative dates for us to go on. Doesn't have to be expensive or grandiose. It can also be simple and creative. If you seduce them, are charming, interesting, and try to speak Spanish. They normally will return with hot wet panties just wanting to experience a "rich" cute extranjero.

But I do admit that it doesn't come easy and takes a lot of work with interviewing and selecting. You can usually weed out the flakes, pros, semi pros, or ones that are only interested in money from the beginning. PM if you need advice. Good luck brother.

YippieKayay
09-14-17, 23:12
Give those apps a shot. What I like about SA is that the girls already know you are looking for sex. But I also treat it like regular dating. If there's no chemistry, then next girl! I don't even bother with pros or semi-pros. The thing with SA is that although you are willing to give money for intimacy. I make it clear to the chicas that I'm not interested in prepagos and that I'm looking for amiga con derecho or novia when I am in town...

But I do admit that it doesn't come easy and takes a lot of work with interviewing and selecting. You can usually weed out the flakes, pros, semi pros, or ones that are only interested in money from the beginning. PM if you need advice. Good luck brother👍.So you go on SA and pretend the women you meet are not hookers? That it's dating? This sounds like the last gentleman who sent dick pix and ended up with more than he bargained for. It's fine to live out some fantasy but be careful.

ColombiaLover
09-14-17, 23:21
I tried SA for a month. Made some good contacts. Some of the girls re definitely hardened pros, but many of them are not. Some of them are actually looking for a relationship. Some are just looking to be treated nice. I was with one non-pro. Took her to eat in Laureles at a Mexican place (her choice) and then she stayed overnight with me and fucked me for free. She saw me the next 2-3 days. I finally had to make excuses because I didn't want to pass all of my time with one chicas. And she is not the only one. I may sign up again. I've been getting lots of message on SA, but can't read them because I did not renew. I ve tried Tinder a little. Had one chica over a year ago. She came over. We fooled around. She was on her period, but wanted her clit licked. Good kissing. Free. Have not tried OK Cupid.


I am definitely all about GFE. I find prepagos, strippers, street walkers, webcam models, and semi-pros to be too hardened for me. I've been in Mde twice and have never set foot in a casa or strip club. I was tempted but I usually go by myself to Mde and don't feel safe in areas where they are usually located.

I've had great success on SA. Although my batting average is lower than most that look for the hardened ones I mentioned. For example I only fucked 3/40 girls I original messaged. The 3 I was initimate with were amazing. Easily an 8 or 9 in looks on *** and 9/10 performance. The best part was that they showed me places and things that I would've never thought to do. Like joining me to guatape, rio negro, inviting me to their universities to smoke weed and show me off to their friends, showing me their favorite activities and gems in the city that's not in a tourist guide. And the best part is all 3 were down with being choked, anal, CIM, bareback, rimming etc. True GFE. The way I fucked these girls and had rough sex with them was almost out of the scenes from 50 shades of grey or a porno and they loved it!. Hell I even fucked all 3 on the balcony of my high rise airbnb overlooking the amazing views of Mde and out in the open! Anyone could see us if they knew where to look when we were fucking on my balcony haha.They treated me like their BF and always were so happy to sleep overnight in my airbnb. I just treat them like normal everyday women and expect the same respect.

The best part is, they never want any money from me. I usually give them $100.000 mil pesos ($35 usd) for all day / night as a thank you but after the 2nd or 3rd time they don't accept my gifts. They are just happy to be treated like special ladies doing fun activities with me and eating at expensive places. Well expensive for colombian standards but cheap for USA standards.

Anyways. My question to you gents is what has your experience on SA, OKC, and tinder? Which dating app is best? I use SA because I am also on it in the states. Also with SA there is incentive for the chicas to meet you because they think you are a rich sugar daddy and usually never flake. The problem I've noticed is that the user base in Mde for SA is small and 50% of the chicas are hardened pros.

What's a bette dating app? Tinder or OKC to meet Chicas in Mde?