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Do the guys using Facebook set up a fake account or do they just use Messenger without adding as a friend? People know I am fooling around but I do not like to thrown it in their faces or even draw attention to it.You can put your privacy settings on tight! Just create a separate friends group for your non-real world girls and make sure they can't see anything and that none of your other friends can see your friends lists. You have to make sure whenever you push out a friend request, you specify which friends list you want that person added to. I haven't had any issues that way.
You can alternatively set up a second FB account, but I just chose not to go that route. Maybe someone else can chime in on that.
Gusto is now giving the working girls a different colored wristband. That's good to know!
I already posted in trip announcements but maybe more viewers here. I'll be in MDE for the first time from December 19-26 coming from West Coast USA. Hope to meet with fellow newbies and vets for girly and non-girly activities. I'll be staying at the Mansion. I'm in my early 30's, of East Asian descent (which I heard Colombian girls are not so fond of LOL), no Spanish skills, so any vet help with non-Mansion activities is highly appreciated.
On a side note, I managed to add a few FB girls. I started writing to one of them, and using a translator, I asked for a photo. She sent one and said "dame bby", which I've no idea wtf it meant, so I didn't reply back. Then later that day I checked she unfriended me hah I know there are way more FB girls to choose from, but that was disappointing.
Do the guys using Facebook set up a fake account or do they just use Messenger without adding as a friend? People know I am fooling around but I do not like to thrown it in their faces or even draw attention to it.Yes. I looked at a few accounts that are obviously mongers since their friend list is all hot girls. Philippines is another big FB using area and the guys there usually use a monger account.
SavePros321
11-18-17, 15:15
Do the guys using Facebook set up a fake account or do they just use Messenger without adding as a friend? People know I am fooling around but I do not like to thrown it in their faces or even draw attention to it.You can set up a dummy account, but you still need to populate it with photos of yourself. Don't do dumb shit like putting a photo of a celebrity or cartoon characters on your profile.
If a chica can't get an idea of what you look like, or if her "network" can't vouch for your, then you will be ignored. Nothing wrong with having you main profile pic be of something else (like a beach or nice car), but you need to have multiple photos of you somewhere in your photo gallery.
Think of it the same way you would with online dating in the US: If you see a profile of a chick and it's is filled with nothing but memes and pics of hot female celebs, your "bullshit" flag goes up instantly, no?
Married teacher 'forced students to have SEX with her to get good grades' at Colombian school.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5089631/Teacher-forced-students-SEX-grades-Colombia.htmlSince the age of consent in Colombia is 14, I wonder what she was charged with. Maybe there is something in the law about teacher / student. We all know a male can't be forced to have intercourse if he doesn't want to.
Yesterday at 5:45 pm, there were four chicas sitting at a table outside Domino's Pizza on Calle 10. They called to me as I walked by. Two were a little fat, one wasn't attractive, but the fourth one was slim and attractive. If I wasn't used up for the day, I would have tried to do something with her. At about 9:30, as I walked from Hooters to Patrick's, I saw three chicas, not together, who gave me the look that they were available. I left Patrick's about 10:30 and it was raining, so I didn't see any chicas as I walked up the hill to Cra 36. I did not go into the park to see who was there.
Big Boss Man
11-18-17, 18:28
Basically I should treat working girls like I do Trump supporters. I had one post this morning saying "Democrats are the enemy. " Real good guy. Mormon. Surfer. I played football with him in high school. We now base our friendships on politics? All we did in high school was debate politics.
I had a good friend who was Lutheran and I was raised Catholic. He was interested in history and we would debate the Reformation all the time while walking to school. Unfortunately he died of a stroke in his fifties due to a bad fall. I went to the funeral and it turns out he married a Catholic girl. A Catholic mass was celebrated. Although I was sad for the early loss of life, I could not help but smiling as I thought "Well guy, it sure looks like I won the Catholic Protestant debate. ".
I started writing to one of them, and using a translator, I asked for a photo. She sent one and said "dame bby", which I've no idea wtf it meant, so I didn't reply back.Translation: "Give me {your photo}, baby. " It's the second-person informal imperative form of "dar" with an object pronoun appended to the end.
I recommend using Duolingo to get started with Spanish.
You can put your privacy settings on tight! Just create a separate friends group for your non-real world girls and make sure they can't see anything and that none of your other friends can see your friends lists. You have to make sure whenever you push out a friend request, you specify which friends list you want that person added to. I haven't had any issues that way.
You can alternatively set up a second FB account, but I just chose not to go that route. Maybe someone else can chime in on that.I'm not sure if you know. It doesn't matter what you do. FB uses a facial recognition algorithm and what will happen is frends suggestions will come across your normal life meaning your regular friends on your other or real identity. You have to make a decision. Chose the monger life or a straight life in FB. In the hacking world, its called contamination, if you go just once and only once, you have now breached your anonymity. Another example if your face has been tagged you can forget about it. One more advice, for all you who added your phone number to FB, well, that is being shared on an algorithm as well. Sorry if I scared anyone but you guys really need to know the facts.
SavePros321
11-18-17, 22:25
I'm not sure if you know. It doesn't matter what you do. FB uses a facial recognition algorithm and what will happen is frends suggestions will come across your normal life meaning your regular friends on your other or real identity. You have to make a decision. Chose the monger life or a straight life in FB. In the hacking world, its called contamination, if you go just once and only once, you have now breached your anonymity. Another example if your face has been tagged you can forget about it. One more advice, for all you who added your phone number to FB, well, that is being shared on an algorithm as well. Sorry if I scared anyone but you guys really need to know the facts.You can get around this. When I set up my alternate FB account I started seeing people from my non-mongering FB profile showing up as suggested friends later down the line, even though my mongering account is populated with nothing but Colombianas. So you are right in that facial recognition is coming into play.
What I did was anyone who I would see show up as a suggested friend from my "normal life" I would preemptively go to their profile and block them. Pretty soon no one who I knew would show up as a suggested friend anymore.
I already posted in trip announcements but maybe more viewers here. I'll be in MDE for the first time from December 19-26 coming from West Coast USA. Hope to meet with fellow newbies and vets for girly and non-girly activities. I'll be staying at the Mansion. I'm in my early 30's, of East Asian descent (which I heard Colombian girls are not so fond of LOL), no Spanish skills, so any vet help with non-Mansion activities is highly appreciated.
On a side note, I managed to add a few FB girls. I started writing to one of them, and using a translator, I asked for a photo. She sent one and said "dame bby", which I've no idea wtf it meant, so I didn't reply back. Then later that day I checked she unfriended me hah I know there are way more FB girls to choose from, but that was disappointing.
Yes. I looked at a few accounts that are obviously mongers since their friend list is all hot girls. Philippines is another big FB using area and the guys there usually use a monger account."Dame" means give me. I'm guessing she was expecting you to send her a picture in return. It's pronounced roughly "the may. " If you're using a translator app, keep it simple. Short direct sentences, with nothing too complex.
Since the age of consent in Colombia is 14, I wonder what she was charged with. Maybe there is something in the law about teacher / student. We all know a male can't be forced to have intercourse if he doesn't want to.This is an area of much confusion that can get people in lot of trouble. The age of consent, same as in the US, means they can start having sex with others who are under 18. Two 16 year olds having sex is no problem. A 30 year-old and a 16 year old having sex is a problem.
You can get around this. When I set up my alternate FB account I started seeing people from my non-mongering FB profile showing up as suggested friends later down the line, even though my mongering account is populated with nothing but Colombianas. So you are right in that facial recognition is coming into play.
What I did was anyone who I would see show up as a suggested friend from my "normal life" I would preemptively go to their profile and block them. Pretty soon no one who I knew would show up as a suggested friend anymore.What FB will do is take any data that you've made (Data FootPrint) and take this and add this to search engine. Push through a command that says to suggest your account to any other account that you have. So for example, if you've commented on a friends FB posting, that is now public, anyone of her friends can see that. So like 6 degrees to Kevin Bacon, it some how comes back to your real life. Sorry bro, FB agenda is to connect anyone and everyone on FB and beyond and use this leverage to push advertisment and their world domination. MicroSoft have now bought LinkedIn and you best believe data and logic will be shared with FB as MicroSoft is a major shareholder of FB.
Can't speak to your technical comments, although they are very frightening and comprise reason #5,217 I am not on social media at all. But, to say MS is a major shareholder in FB is a bit of a stretch. As of the latest filings it was less than 1. 5%. Keep in mind that although Z owns fewer than half the outstanding shares, he has maintained absolute control through FB's two-class share structure. Alphabet also has a two-class share structure. Unfortunately, a lot of investors don't understand the implication of these structures. MS owns cumulative preferred shares of FB, I am pretty sure.
Can't speak to your technical comments, although they are very frightening and comprise reason #5,217 I am not on social media at all. But, to say MS is a major shareholder in FB is a bit of a stretch. As of the latest filings it was less than 1. 5%. Keep in mind that although Z owns fewer than half the outstanding shares, he has maintained absolute control through FB's two-class share structure. Alphabet also has a two-class share structure. Unfortunately, a lot of investors don't understand the implication of these structures. MS owns cumulative preferred shares of FB, I am pretty sure.I have not followed what MS has done with their shares since the incubation of FB as of late. But I do know that techies who jump back and forth through out this industry brings with them the knowledge of how data is shared and optimizing it for the agenda of each company. Ahh how the silicon valley has changed so much from the days I was there. Google / FB / Apple all steal from each employees with the know how and talent to get this done but we are digressing this board. I can talk about it for days but I too for the longest have steered away from Social media until I needed it to start my trips to MDE. Other than that, I have no need for Social media myself. But I do dread the day it somehow comes back. Luckily, there is nothing on there that I've posted that makes me look inappropriate if someone should so search. As for my FB friends I hope nothing too crazy posting on my page. LOL. Either way, like I said choose one or the other if your going to be using this that's my only advice.
SavePros321
11-19-17, 01:08
Sorry bro, FB agenda is to connect anyone and everyone on FB and beyond and use this leverage to push advertisment and their world domination. MicroSoft have now bought LinkedIn and you best believe data and logic will be shared with FB as MicroSoft is a major shareholder of FB.Probably should be prefaced as "YMMV".
I've been at this FB prepagos game since 2013. I have yet to have anyone from my main FB say to me "Hey, what's up with the other FB page?" or send a friend request to it. Maybe it can be attributed to the fact that most folks are lazy and are not going to put in the effort to investigate further than the photo of the alt account. I would say 99.9 percent of your "FB friends" don't even care and are too busy shouting over one another (that's really all FB is these days) to even notice it.
I don't have a dog in this fight because:
A) I'm single.
B) can't think of one single person I know that would care enough to go "splorin". I don't add girlfriends, potential girlfriends, or exes to my main FB. I don't even have immediate family added to my main FB.
C) I take common sense privacy approaches to the dummy FB account by locking down my friends list and timeline (meaning you have to be a friend to even see who's on my list and what's on my timeline. And it's set to "friends only" so no "friend of a friend" can view my shit either), not allowing people to find you by email address, etc.
UPDATE: Just checked my privacy settings and only I can see my friends list
Another Hack: “Do you want search engines outside of Facebook to link to your profile?” NO!!! Turn this off.
I also don't have anything on my timeline other a few photos of myself or memes that I have shared. No photos with me with any chicas or crime scene photos of drug, booze, and sex-filled orgies with "tha bros". The alt account is for networking only.
Hasnt fouled me up yet despite what Zuckerface intends for it to do or be.
Black Page
11-19-17, 02:31
Probably should be prefaced as "YMMV".I followed this discussion and I understand all your (very reasonable) arguments.
I have 1) a main FB account, where I post NOTHING except my real name and a photo, which I just use to Messenger with those girls who don't like to use WhatsApp or Wechat, and 2) a secondary one with a fake name and as profile photo the photo of a guy that I photographed on top of the rock of Guatape while he was taking a selfie with his girlfriends (negligible probability anyone could recognize him).
Said all this, still I don't feel comfortable to start a real activity on any of my FB profiles, because the privacy settings are so complex, so cumbersome, and they even change with time, that I am afraid one day I could make a mistake.
I don't really want any person of my real life, or any of my serious girlfriends, or even any of the Colombian hookers I met in Cartagena or Medellin, to discover I have tons of girls in Indonesia. Not even I would like that my girlfriends may get in touch one with the other.
That's the profound difference. Nobody of the persons on my phone contact list can see who are the others. Could you imagine that?? The same paradigm is applied in Skype, WhatsApp, WeChat. Facebook is different. They WANT your friends get linked together, and anything to impede that is made cumbersome on purpose. Because it's a networking thing.
Well, I don't want my friends do network together. That's my private world. So, bubye Mr. Zuckerman.
You understand social networking better than most of the others who have been contributing to this thread. The fact of the matter is all it takes is one stray click and all your contacts and the contacts of your contacts can see your entire history. You have to be extremely careful. I don't personally have the patience or energy for it so I leave it alone.
I followed this discussion and I understand all your (very reasonable) arguments.
I have 1) a main FB account, where I post NOTHING except my real name and a photo, which I just use to Messenger with those girls who don't like to use WhatsApp or Wechat, and 2) a secondary one with a fake name and as profile photo the photo of a guy that I photographed on top of the rock of Guatape while he was taking a selfie with his girlfriends (negligible probability anyone could recognize him).
Said all this, still I don't feel comfortable to start a real activity on any of my FB profiles, because the privacy settings are so complex, so cumbersome, and they even change with time, that I am afraid one day I could make a mistake.
I don't really want any person of my real life, or any of my serious girlfriends, or even any of the Colombian hookers I met in Cartagena or Medellin, to discover I have tons of girls in Indonesia. Not even I would like that my girlfriends may get in touch one with the other.
That's the profound difference. Nobody of the persons on my phone contact list can see who are the others. Could you imagine that?? The same paradigm is applied in Skype, WhatsApp, WeChat. Facebook is different. They WANT your friends get linked together, and anything to impede that is made cumbersome on purpose. Because it's a networking thing.
Well, I don't want my friends do network together. That's my private world. So, bubye Mr. Zuckerman.
MedellinGringo
11-19-17, 07:55
Since the age of consent in Colombia is 14, I wonder what she was charged with. Maybe there is something in the law about teacher / student. We all know a male can't be forced to have intercourse if he doesn't want to.She would be charged with sexual coercion.
Age of consent is 14 and the law has no stipulation that you must be close in age for it not to be a crime.
What the law does say is that it is illegal to have sex with anyone under 14 and that is is also illegal to coerce, intimidate or entice in anyway a person under the age of 18 to have sex or engage in any sex act. That is why it is illegal to pay a girl under 18 to have sex or to even to give her an unsolicited gift.
But this is all academic, because the minute a Colombian police officer catches a gringo with a minor. The gringo is going to be arrested and charged with sexual coercion. Just so they can take as much money from him as possible.
I'm not sure if you know. It doesn't matter what you do. FB uses a facial recognition algorithm and what will happen is frends suggestions will come across your normal life meaning your regular friends on your other or real identity. You have to make a decision. Chose the monger life or a straight life in FB. In the hacking world, its called contamination, if you go just once and only once, you have now breached your anonymity. Another example if your face has been tagged you can forget about it. One more advice, for all you who added your phone number to FB, well, that is being shared on an algorithm as well. Sorry if I scared anyone but you guys really need to know the facts.I just asked a few people (guys) who I am close friends with if they can see my Friends list and they say no. I've asked girls in my puta friends list (that's not what I name it) if they can see my pics of me and my kids or my college pics and they say no. The putas also cannot post on my wall and NO one can tag me unless I approve it. I have had many friends try. I'm sure if someone has the skills and are used to cracking into FB sections, they can, but I'm not really concerned with that level of intrusion. I'm concerned that my cousin or my HS Physics teacher can't see the pics of young Colombian girls in bikinis with the word "Citas?" across their stomach. And concerned that when I post Happy Bday to my mom, some puta won't post "Que linda, papi!
Keeping my fingers crossed!
FuckAfMedDig
11-19-17, 15:35
Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.
Totally disrespectful. Made me not want to come back-and I'm anti drugs!
In other news def some cute girls in Medellin. Food on the heavy side-surprised they arent all fat! LOL.
Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.
Any idea why. Anything at all you might have done in the airport that peaked their interest? There is the possibility they had a lead and description that someone was going to be smuggling but who knows.
The Tall Man
11-19-17, 16:39
Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.
Totally disrespectful. Made me not want to come back-and I'm anti drugs!
In other news def some cute girls in Medellin. Food on the heavy side-surprised they arent all fat! LOL.This has happened only ONCE to me in my 30 plus trips returning to the sates from Bogota and Medellin in the past 8 years, and it happened at MDE rionegro. Since then never a second question.
Yes it's the cuties that make me return twice or three times each year to MDE and I will spend next month of December in MDE. Some past regulars along with some new.
TTM.
Black Page
11-19-17, 18:00
Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions..Post your photo here and we may tell you why ROFL.
(just kidding. Don't be upset with me).
The heavy food / no weight gain thing has an explanation, two explanations actually. 1) Portion sizes and 2) physical activity instead of snacking in front of TVs in spare time.
Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.
Totally disrespectful. Made me not want to come back-and I'm anti drugs!
In other news def some cute girls in Medellin. Food on the heavy side-surprised they arent all fat! LOL.
This is an area of much confusion that can get people in lot of trouble. The age of consent, same as in the US, means they can start having sex with others who are under 18. Two 16 year olds having sex is no problem. A 30 year-old and a 16 year old having sex is a problem.Colombian law is definitely not the same as in the USA, and it does not specify an "age difference" rule. See below:
(us gringos of course must abide by the 18 year old or older rule, by a US international travel law.).
The Criminal Code of Colombia (Act 599 of 2000) as it was modified by article 4 of law 1236 of 2008, sets the age of consent at 14, regardless of gender or sexual orientation.
Article 208 states: El que acceda carnalmente a persona menor de catorce (14) años, incurrirá en prisióand de doce (12) a veinte (20) años.
Translation: Whoever has sexual intercourse with a person under fourteen (14) years is liable to imprisonment of between twelve (12) and twenty (20) years.
Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.
Totally disrespectful. Made me not want to come back-and I'm anti drugs!
In other news def some cute girls in Medellin. Food on the heavy side-surprised they arent all fat! LOL.Wow! That's rare these days.
They obviously suspected something.
Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.
Totally disrespectful. Made me not want to come back-and I'm anti drugs!
In other news def some cute girls in Medellin. Food on the heavy side-surprised they arent all fat! LOL.Was it your 1st trip?
They did that to me on my 1st trip, must fit the profile for a drug mule I'd guess.
Last 2 times no problem.
Quagmire1974
11-19-17, 23:45
Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.
Totally disrespectful. Made me not want to come back-and I'm anti drugs!Prior to the body scanning (X-ray?) were there any questions (verbal or written) regarding whether or not you had an x-ray due to broken bones within the past several months? I think I read over on TripAdvisor in the past that if you had recent x-rays due to broken bones, you wouldn't get the body scanning from Colombian authorities.
No, it doesn't seem like it could have been a routine check. Thank goodness he was not traveling dirty.
Wow! That's rare these days.
They obviously suspected something.
Hola Dudes,
I signed up for CC.com and it finally paid dividends last week. This chica emailed me and came over to my place. Now, she was a "good from far, but a far from good". Still, she had a great body and more improtantly, a very accomodating personality. Sex was great! She asked for CIM. Had to oblige that request. Twice. She spent the night. Paid her 100 k plus taxi.
I had my amiga over again with the huge natural rack. When I first came here, I shy'the away from the chica dates at the apartment and opted for the chica casas or strip clubs. While I had some great sessions, nothing compares to having a chica over to your place for multiple sessions. Sex gets incremently better with each session. Tonight, we both jerked off together. LOL. My point is you owe it to yourself to build that contact list.
Late,
Judd.
Prior to the body scanning (X-ray?) were there any questions (verbal or written) regarding whether or not you had an x-ray due to broken bones within the past several months? I think I read over on TripAdvisor in the past that if you had recent x-rays due to broken bones, you wouldn't get the body scanning from Colombian authorities.Not, 3 cops came up at the security check point where they scan your carry on and said "follow me" to a back room with a conveyor belt ride thru X-ray machine, 3 guys were ahead of me, I went thru twice then the officer behind the desk ask me question for 5 minutes or so. "Why were you in Medellin, where did you stay, what did you do etc. " Also "What did I have for breakfast?" The entire thing was done in Spanish also as I speak it fairly well, not sure how much if any English he spoke.
Went to Medellin last week with a couple of buddies, this is my 2nd time going, first time I went I had a blast.
First night we got there we decided to go out. We heard Babylon was great on Thursday so we went and it sucked ass. Not much going on so we went to Fase dos. 10 k each to get in and for some reason they told us we needed to buy a bottle so we did. I got a girl and went to the back for a total of 190 k, she asked if I wanted to buy her a drink and I said no thanks because I was being cheap and didn't want to pay an extra 30 k, plus I almost got screwed over last time buying a hooker a drink. She tried to screw me over with how much I gave for the drink so no thanks to that, haha! Took her to the back where the rooms were and we proceeded with DFK and DATY. She did CBJ, didn't bother to ask how much was for BBBJ. We proceeded to get it on, then I switched positions and did doggy and all of a sudden I smell a bad stench and I knew it was coming from her. Was still pounding away but I was about to vomit. I had enough of that and just acted like I cummed and sent her on her way. Went back inside where my friends were and saw they both had girls and were taking them out the club and back home. I tried to go to sleep early but was kept awake by one of my friends banging a girl in the restroom next to my room. Later on heard a big noise that sounded like ice falling on the ground. Got up and saw that the glass on the shower cracked and shattered. Not a good way to start the trip haha. We ended up telling the airbnb guy about it the day before the last we were there and he was cool about it and my friend only had to pay $400 US.
Woke up the next morning and asked my buddies how much they paid for there girls and they said 750 k plus 190 k to the club to take them out. This is for each girl. I was like are you serious! I actually yelled at them for being idiots and paying that much. Yeah my friend got the hottest one there but my other friend who has bad taste got an ugly ***** that looked old as hell. I was in shock and just shook my head.
Next day I took my friends to Energy. Lineup was about 20 girls, they wanted 115 k for half hour or 140 for an hour so we all got a girl for an hour. I had plans to meet with my main chick from SA that I had the last time I was there but she told me that she has a boyfriend now and couldn't see me anymore. Sucks because I didn't line up more girls because I had planned to spend a few nights with her. That night we went around Parque Lleras and ended up at Club Gusto. Nice place with good music but the girls are costly. All the girls I talked to wanted at least 300, and I don't even know if they were talking about mil or US dollars. But we'll get into that later.
I was craving for a girl with big boobs so I found this Venezuelan girl, she wanted 600 k until 5 am, I talked her down to 400 k and I knew that was a lot I should be spending for a girl in Colombia but we had no other options.
Next day I had plans for a girl from photoprepagos, she was on her way and she kept messaging me and then voice messaging me and it was getting me a headache. I told her to stop voice messaging me because I couldn't understand her. She was trying to say she didn't know where in El Poblado I was at. I just told her nevermind and stay home. She message me back "Maldito hijo de puta".
That night we went to Club Gusto again, only one of us found a chick. He said that she wanted to 200. So me and my other buddy leave and walk around Parque Lleras. We find this two girls walking and we asked them how much they want and they said 200 k. We both agree, then my friend who is drunk starts smoking a joint he gets from his girl. We're walking and we walk past a big bright light and we see the girls faces and we're like hell no, these bitches are ugly. So we leave them and start walking. We head over to La Clinica, didn't see any chicas by themselves. Got a drink and left, caught a taxi and tried to get him to take us to Club Fahrenheit. He drives around, I think hes coked out because he keeps sniffing and wiping his nose, plus hes speeding and running every red light we past by. My friend is drunk in the back. The driver can't find the place so we're getting tired and I just tell him to take us home.
Next day we wake up and my drunk friend says he can't find his phone. He left it in the taxi. Bet that guy was happy. We track the phone and we see that its at a phone shop in Centro. We tried to get a taxi to take us to that place and the taxi driver says its dangerous for us to go there so he won't take us there. My friend is like fuck it, hes rich anyways so he took the loss haha.
I asked my buddy who had the girl last night how much you end up paying that girl, he said she asked for 200 but when it was time to pay he gave her 200 mil and she wanted to $200 US. Haha!! Tricky little sluts, and he said her pussy smelled after he ate her out. Guess there girls need to get some douche in there lives.
Trip ended up being a little expensive for my buddies because of the broken glass and loss phone. Sucked for me also because my SA girl wasn't available. Next time I would definitely try to line up facebook girls instead of trying to find them at a club. Didn't see that many free lancers walking around the park. Saw one who looked like Justin Beiber. Went to Guatape for a day and it was nice. Medellin is a beautiful city, I would rank probably number 1 from all the places I've been to. Can't beat great weather, food, cheap prices, and beautiful woman.
Went to Medellin last week with a couple of buddies, this is my 2nd time going, first time I went I had a blast.
First night we got there we decided to go out. We heard Babylon was great on Thursday so we went and it sucked ass. Not much going on so we went to Fase dos. 10 k each to get in and for some reason they told us we needed to buy a bottle so we did. I got a girl and went to the back for a total of 190 k, she asked if I wanted to buy her a drink and I said no thanks because I was being cheap and didn't want to pay an extra 30 k, plus I almost got screwed over last time buying a hooker a drink. She tried to screw me over with how much I gave for the drink so no thanks to that, haha! Took her to the back where the rooms were and we proceeded with DFK and DATY. She did CBJ, didn't bother to ask how much was for BBBJ. We proceeded to get it on, then I switched positions and did doggy and all of a sudden I smell a bad stench and I knew it was coming from her. Was still pounding away but I was about to vomit. I had enough of that and just acted like I cummed and sent her on her way. Went back inside where my friends were and saw they both had girls and were taking them out the club and back home. I tried to go to sleep early but was kept awake by one of my friends banging a girl in the restroom next to my room. Later on heard a big noise that sounded like ice falling on the ground. Got up and saw that the glass on the shower cracked and shattered. Not a good way to start the trip haha. We ended up telling the airbnb guy about it the day before the last we were there and he was cool about it and my friend only had to pay $400 US.
Woke up the next morning and asked my buddies how much they paid for there girls and they said 750 k plus 190 k to the club to take them out. This is for each girl. I was like are you serious! I actually yelled at them for being idiots and paying that much..Sounds like a solid adventure. Yeah, it is definitely important to brief the wingmen on the going rates and if push comes to shove, let the more experienced monger do the negotiating. Some of the prices paid were ridiculous. And I never criticize what people pay! But, it comes with experience I guess. Now I know why a girl from Instagram tried to get me to pay $300 USD for a 1 hour session. After I laughed my ass off and criticized her and broke down the pricing structure, she was down to $150 mil pesos plus taxi. Stick to your guns or move on. Unless (and this happens a lot) she is the baddest chick of your life, then, well--live a little! Just know, the next one might be the baddest chick of your life too! Such is life in Medellin.
Go to Venezuela? Caracas. I ask this question here, because like Caracas, Medellin still has this aire of being "too dangerous" to visit. While this aire is more imagined than the actual dangers in Caracas, I venture to think it MAY not be AS dangerous as many of us believe. I guess it comes down to your level of being risk averse. Many who monger often in Medellin warn of the dangers of El Centro. I grew up in very nasty places in New Orleans and El Centro doesn't scare me because I have always been on guard when walking the street there or anywhere else at night. Perhaps part of why I haven't experienced this danger is because I don't look like a "typical" gringo and know how to "mean mug" and walk with a purpose. Before I leave a place in Centro, I generally go into the bathroom stall, look at my map or whatever to figure out where I'm going and leave with those directions in my head.
Anyway, back to the point. Pussy is $7 an hour in Caracas and 3/4 star hotels go for $11 per night, sooo, yeah, I'm fucking thinking about it. Anyone else want to jump in on making plans for a trip March / April of next year? PM me.
Sho423-
Several times in my life I have encountered women with that vaginal smell. It is usually Vaginitis and it smells very bad. And like you I detected it during doggy style. Each time it happened I just flat out stopped. It is incredibly revolting. But to womens credit have a hole between your legs that is dark most of the time can invite the toughest of smells and bacteria. In addition I was always happy I was wearing a condom because any bacteria from a women can be transferred to you. It does not have to always be a std. I got Non-Gonococcal Urethritis from a blowjob once and it was the most painful thing I ever experienced. I am a 100% condom user since then-even for a BJ.
Showdown.
Went to Medellin last week with a couple of buddies, this is my 2nd time going, first time I went I had a blast.
First night we got there we decided to go out. We heard Babylon was great on Thursday so we went and it sucked ass. Not much going on so we went to Fase dos. 10 k each to get in and for some reason they told us we needed to buy a bottle so we did. I got a girl and went to the back for a total of 190 k, she asked if I wanted to buy her a drink and I said no thanks because I was being cheap and didn't want to pay an extra 30 k, plus I almost got screwed over last time buying a hooker a drink. She tried to screw me over with how much I gave for the drink so no thanks to that, haha! Took her to the back where the rooms were and we proceeded with DFK and DATY. She did CBJ, didn't bother to ask how much was for BBBJ. We proceeded to get it on, then I switched positions and did doggy and all of a sudden I smell a bad stench and I knew it was coming from her. Was still pounding away but I was about to vomit. I had enough of that and just acted like I cummed and sent her on her way. Went back inside where my friends were and saw they both had girls and were taking them out the club and back home. I tried to go to sleep early but was kept awake by one of my friends banging a girl in the restroom next to my room. Later on heard a big noise that sounded like ice falling on the ground. Got up and saw that the glass on the shower cracked and shattered. Not a good way to start the trip haha. We ended up telling the airbnb guy about it the day before the last we were there and he was cool about it and my friend only had to pay $400 US.
Woke up the next morning and asked my buddies how much they paid for there girls and they said 750 k plus 190 k to the club to take them out. This is for each girl. I was like are you serious! I actually yelled at them for being idiots and paying that much. Yeah my friend got the hottest one there but my other friend who has bad taste got an ugly ***** that looked old as hell. I was in shock and just shook my head.Great report of all the ways things can go wrong.
I'm sure the AirBnB host was fine with $400 for the door, it probably cost him $75 or less to replace. For $400 he could remodel the bathroom.
The crowds in Medellin are fickle. The club that was packed on Thursday might be dead on Saturday. Depending on the day, there are usually 6 to 15 girls working in and around Parque Lleras, not counting the ones in the clubs. You will find very few before 11 pm.
Many of the girls in Lleras will quote prices in dollars, because they assume gringos won't know any better. Too often they are correct. The correct response is to offer a price in pesos "en general pago ciento cincuenta mil más taxi. " When she answers with "200 dollars", tell her when she comes to the US you'll pay in dollars. Very few will stick to the $200 or $100 US price, if you talk with them.
I'm guessing your taxi driver either couldn't understand you, or figured you were too drunk to know better. Club Fahrenheit is in Itagui. It is right on autopista sur, just south of the Ayura metro station. Very few taxistas in Lleras would have problems finding it.
You and your buddies should consider paying a guide when you travel. Just a rough guess, your group overspent enough for 1 or 2 more round trip tickets to Medellin and half your time wasn't productive.
There's no good reason to pay an exit fee for a girl at Fase 2 or anywhere else. Fuck her on-site. If she's worth another go, get her number and offer to meet when she's not working for 190 k or double if you want her all night. If you sweeten the deal with drinks and dancing, most will consider it. With a 190 k exit fee you're paying more than most guys pay just to put her in a taxi.
Seriously, if you guys come back, pay someone to guide you.
SMH! Why would you pay in US dollars when you are in Col? This the is the problem guys. Let's get educated before we go out and monger guys. Before you know it Medellin will be way to expensive if not already in poblado. No thanks to guys like this that ruin it for all of us. Good luck next time.
Went to Medellin last week with a couple of buddies, this is my 2nd time going, first time I went I had a blast.
First night we got there we decided to go out. We heard Babylon was great on Thursday so we went and it sucked ass. Not much going on so we went to Fase dos. 10 k each to get in and for some reason they told us we needed to buy a bottle so we did. I got a girl and went to the back for a total of 190 k, she asked if I wanted to buy her a drink and I said no thanks because I was being cheap and didn't want to pay an extra 30 k, plus I almost got screwed over last time buying a hooker a drink. She tried to screw me over with how much I gave for the drink so no thanks to that, haha! Took her to the back where the rooms were and we proceeded with DFK and DATY. She did CBJ, didn't bother to ask how much was for BBBJ. We proceeded to get it on, then I switched positions and did doggy and all of a sudden I smell a bad stench and I knew it was coming from her. Was still pounding away but I was about to vomit. I had enough of that and just acted like I cummed and sent her on her way. Went back inside where my friends were and saw they both had girls and were taking them out the club and back home. I tried to go to sleep early but was kept awake by one of my friends banging a girl in the restroom next to my room. Later on heard a big noise that sounded like ice falling on the ground. Got up and saw that the glass on the shower cracked and shattered. Not a good way to start the trip haha. We ended up telling the airbnb guy about it the day before the last we were there and he was cool about it and my friend only had to pay $400 US.
SMH! Why would you pay in US dollars when you are in Col? This the is the problem guys. Let's get educated before we go out and monger guys. Before you know it Medellin will be way to expensive if not already in poblado. No thanks to guys like this that ruin it for all of us. Good luck next time.I too agree with what you say but being young these guys want to do a little showing off. Kinda like being in vegas, throwing dollars around so they can get attention. Let it settle in but these guys don't understand that the girls don't give better service if more money is tossed in front of them. In fact they look at them as stupid. Yes, that is a fact, there is a colombian saying. Giving the papaya away. I hope these guys settle down and realized that. Like the story of the Bull and his son on the hill. Why run and see how many they can get when they can just walk down and get with them all. Running down is haste and throwing money to get attention.
SavePros321
11-20-17, 18:05
Went to Medellin last week with a couple of buddies, this is my 2nd time going, first time I went I had a blast.
Trip ended up being a little expensive for my buddies because of the broken glass and loss phone. Sucked for me also because my SA girl wasn't available. Next time I would definitely try to line up facebook girls instead of trying to find them at a club. Medellin is a beautiful city, I would rank probably number 1 from all the places I've been to. Can't beat great weather, food, cheap prices, and beautiful woman.Sounds like you would have had a better trip if you left your buddies back at home! Drop their asses off in Vegas on the way to Medallo next time, lmao!
I understand some guys are naturally lonely and always need to be in the company of others. But on all my trips since moving from the Mansion to apartments, I don't talk to one gringo the entire time and always have a blast!
SMH! Why would you pay in US dollars when you are in Col? This the is the problem guys. Let's get educated before we go out and monger guys. Before you know it Medellin will be way to expensive if not already in poblado. No thanks to guys like this that ruin it for all of us. Good luck next time.Not me, that's my buddies. They are rich so they don't care.
Sounds like you would have had a better trip if you left your buddies back at home! Drop their asses off in Vegas on the way to Medallo next time, lmao!
I understand some guys are naturally lonely and always need to be in the company of others. But on all my trips since moving from the Mansion to apartments, I don't talk to one gringo the entire time and always have a blast!Haha yeah, I told them I was coming back and they wanted to come along butI told them I'm going by myself.
Great report of all the ways things can go wrong.
I'm sure the AirBnB host was fine with $400 for the door, it probably cost him $75 or less to replace. For $400 he could remodel the bathroom.
The crowds in Medellin are fickle. The club that was packed on Thursday might be dead on Saturday. Depending on the day, there are usually 6 to 15 girls working in and around Parque Lleras, not counting the ones in the clubs. You will find very few before 11 pm.
Many of the girls in Lleras will quote prices in dollars, because they assume gringos won't know any better. Too often they are correct. The correct response is to offer a price in pesos "en general pago ciento cincuenta mil ms taxi. " When she answers with "200 dollars", tell her when she comes to the US you'll pay in dollars. Very few will stick to the $200 or $100 US price, if you talk with them.
I'm guessing your taxi driver either couldn't understand you, or figured you were too drunk to know better. Club Fahrenheit is in Itagui. It is right on autopista sur, just south of the Ayura metro station. Very few taxistas in Lleras would have problems finding it.
You and your buddies should consider paying a guide when you travel. Just a rough guess, your group overspent enough for 1 or 2 more round trip tickets to Medellin and half your time wasn't productive.
There's no good reason to pay an exit fee for a girl at Fase 2 or anywhere else. Fuck her on-site. If she's worth another go, get her number and offer to meet when she's not working for 190 k or double if you want her all night. If you sweeten the deal with drinks and dancing, most will consider it. With a 190 k exit fee you're paying more than most guys pay just to put her in a taxi.
Seriously, if you guys come back, pay someone to guide you.The airbnb host showed us the receipt of the glass, he was a nice guy, that temper glass in the you. S costs about $1000 to replace.
And I fucked my girl on-site at Fase, my friends wanted to take there girls back home, guess to feel more comfortable.
Just Incognito
11-20-17, 18:43
Tonight, we both jerked off together. LOL.
So, you picked up a chick with a dick and you whacked off in front of each other?
To each their own I guess. HA!
There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.
They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.
There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.
If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi. When you do step outside, walk with a purpose. If you make a note of open businesses on your way in, head for the closest. If someone tries to stop you, say "no gracias" and keep moving towards the next business.
The only way this scam works is if they can keep you off balance. When you don't respond the way they expect, it puts them off balance. Every step you take away from their chosen spot, moves you farther away from danger. If weapons come out, give them what you have and get out of there. Otherwise just keep moving towards that next open business.
Best advice, keep your eyes open and be aware of your surroundings.
A couple of the Centro casas post signs on their exit doors warning about this from time to time. New Life had one up (maybe it still does) that describes the scenario very much similar to what's described here, right down to the bit about impersonating law enforcement. One of the two casas on Carrera 45 D also had a sign up. I've noticed sketchy looking guys hanging around at the corner of Carrera 45 D and calle 57 where they can watch foot traffic between Aiffe, New Life and the two places on 45 D. 45 D is tree lined and has very little foot traffic or vehicular traffic. There are usually uniformed police watching that street and I wouldn't be surprised if this hustle is the reason. So yeah, be aware of your surroundings. I grew up in a big city and I trust my instincts. I don't find it hard to notice people who are up to no good around the neighborhood. Most people are moving with a sense of purpose, but the stick up boys are not. This has been going on for several years by the way.
So Mr. L JjBee, why don't you tell us which casas and which locations so we know where to be extra careful. I think I already did that but I'm not the original poster.
There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.
They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.
There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.
If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi..
Good luck with that, let us know how you make out.
Go to Venezuela? Caracas. I ask this question here, because like Caracas, Medellin still has this aire of being "too dangerous" to visit. While this aire is more imagined than the actual dangers in Caracas, I venture to think it MAY not be AS dangerous as many of us believe. I guess it comes down to your level of being risk averse. Many who monger often in Medellin warn of the dangers of El Centro. I grew up in very nasty places in New Orleans and El Centro doesn't scare me because I have always been on guard when walking the street there or anywhere else at night. Perhaps part of why I haven't experienced this danger is because I don't look like a "typical" gringo and know how to "mean mug" and walk with a purpose. Before I leave a place in Centro, I generally go into the bathroom stall, look at my map or whatever to figure out where I'm going and leave with those directions in my head.
Anyway, back to the point. Pussy is $7 an hour in Caracas and 3/4 star hotels go for $11 per night, sooo, yeah, I'm fucking thinking about it. Anyone else want to jump in on making plans for a trip March / April of next year? PM me.
Excellent post and information jbee62. Thanks for the heads up.
Blue Touch
11-21-17, 07:22
Good post. Some irresponsible people recommend El Centro and the streets to gringos. Gringos should take taxi and avoid street in Centro. Basically there is no "hidden gem" in Centro.
There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.
They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.
There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.
If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi. When you do step outside, walk with a purpose. If you make a note of open businesses on your way in, head for the closest. If someone tries to stop you, say "no gracias" and keep moving towards the next business..
There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.
They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.
There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.
If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi. When you do step outside, walk with a purpose. If you make a note of open businesses on your way in, head for the closest. If someone tries to stop you, say "no gracias" and keep moving towards the next business..Which Casa or Casas and was this during the day or night time?
Black Page
11-21-17, 12:32
Good post. Some irresponsible people recommend El Centro and the streets to gringos.I totally agree. It's just matter of time, and someone new, first-timer, maybe with poor Spanish skills, or simply naive and optimistic, who reads here and gets the impression it's everything easy, safe, quiet, etc. will get into troubles. I am not sure he will post his bad luck here, though. It happened already, I guess.
It's not safe, and it's not safe especially for those who have no clue of what is South America.
Basically there is no "hidden gem" in Centro.That is wrong instead. Even if the concept of "hidden gem" is personal and must be personal (I have seen here photos of sleazy hookers posted and presented as "gems") there are indeed gems. But it's not easy, it's not for everyone, YMMV, and of course shit can always happen.
A couple of the Centro casas post signs on their exit doors warning about this from time to time. New Life had one up (maybe it still does) that describes the scenario very much similar to what's described here, right down to the bit about impersonating law enforcement. One of the two casas on Carrera 45 D also had a sign up. I've noticed sketchy looking guys hanging around at the corner of Carrera 45 D and calle 57 where they can watch foot traffic between Aiffe, New Life and the two places on 45 D. 45 D is tree lined and has very little foot traffic or vehicular traffic. There are usually uniformed police watching that street and I wouldn't be surprised if this hustle is the reason. So yeah, be aware of your surroundings. I grew up in a big city and I trust my instincts. I don't find it hard to notice people who are up to no good around the neighborhood. Most people are moving with a sense of purpose, but the stick up boys are not. This has been going on for several years by the way.
So Mr. L JjBee, why don't you tell us which casas and which locations so we know where to be extra careful. I think I already did that but I'm not the original poster.I would be thrilled to tell you, not only which casas, but also the street address and everything that was said, except it didn't happen to me. I just ended up having a beer with someone it happened to the evening after it happened. Mostly he was embarrassed about being caught off guard and not knowing how to handle the situation.
If I ask him and report the exact location, it will do more harm than good. Because there will be someone who sees the name of a casa and decides all he needs to do to be safe, is go to a different casa. When he's confronted by the same guys 2 blocks away, if he doesn't know what to do the result is the same.
Being safe in the streets isn't about avoiding 1 or 2 corners. It's not even about avoiding a certain area with known risks. On Sunday I spent most of the day on a semi-guided tour through a lot of barrios, including 1 where no monger should ever go. At no time did I feel the least bit uncomfortable and at no time was I in more danger than in Poblado. Because I know correct behavior.
It begins with dressing right. From a distance I'm just another Colombian, even though I'm an obvious gringo. Next, I know where I'm going. It doesn't matter if I've never been there before, I'm still moving towards a destination. There's no head scratching, no looking at maps, no gawking.
Don't draw attention to yourself. With few exceptions, thieves aren't looking for gringos, they're looking for someone they can confuse and dominate. If you are paying attention and moving with confidence, you're not a good victim.
Go to Venezuela? Caracas. I ask this question here, because like Caracas, Medellin still has this aire of being "too dangerous" to visit. While this aire is more imagined than the actual dangers in Caracas, I venture to think it MAY not be AS dangerous as many of us believe. I guess it comes down to your level of being risk averse. Many who monger often in Medellin warn of the dangers of El Centro. I grew up in very nasty places in New Orleans and El Centro doesn't scare me because I have always been on guard when walking the street there or anywhere else at night. Perhaps part of why I haven't experienced this danger is because I don't look like a "typical" gringo and know how to "mean mug" and walk with a purpose. Before I leave a place in Centro, I generally go into the bathroom stall, look at my map or whatever to figure out where I'm going and leave with those directions in my head.
Anyway, back to the point. Pussy is $7 an hour in Caracas and 3/4 star hotels go for $11 per night, sooo, yeah, I'm fucking thinking about it. Anyone else want to jump in on making plans for a trip March / April of next year? PM me.Part of what you say I recently heard from a Venezuelan girl, beautiful women everywhere selling themselves cheap. However, her report was that the danger is real. Right now there's a bad mix of anger and desperation.
Once the situation changes, it's probably going to be paradise.
There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.
They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've
Best advice, keep your eyes open and be aware of your surroundings.Thanks for the common sense big city anywhere advice. However more specific info would be much more helpful: How many guys? Which casa? Time of day? Uniformed?
Thanks, Hboy.
Blue Touch
11-21-17, 17:36
Police knows and condones about them. Police officers are quiet about them because they are on on the gangs' payrolls.
There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.
They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.
There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.
If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi..
Blue Touch
11-21-17, 17:41
I totally agree. It's just matter of time, and someone new, first-timer, maybe with poor Spanish skills, or simply naive and optimistic, who reads here and gets the impression it's everything easy, safe, quiet, etc. will get into troubles. I am not sure he will post his bad luck here, though. It happened already, I guess.
It's not safe, and it's not safe especially for those who have no clue of what is South America.
That is wrong instead. Even if the concept of "hidden gem" is personal and must be personal (I have seen here photos of sleazy hookers posted and presented as "gems") there are indeed gems. But it's not easy, it's not for everyone, YMMV, and of course shit can always happen.OK. Given that hidden gem is a subjective, rather than objective, term, walking streets for hours to find gems and not wanting to admit that you wasted times make the girls look hidden gems.
I totally agree. It's just matter of time, and someone new, first-timer, maybe with poor Spanish skills, or simply naive and optimistic, who reads here and gets the impression it's everything easy, safe, quiet, etc. will get into troubles. I am not sure he will post his bad luck here, though. It happened already, I guess.
It's not safe, and it's not safe especially for those who have no clue of what is South America.
Again, there are those who think there balls are big and have the stupid gringo mentality of "I've walked the streets in so and so. " This applies to all in any city. It is called by chance. It increases dependent on many factors. Up to you but the many that contribute and advise on side of caution is for noobs benefit. Take VegesJeff, he is pretty good in Colombia, but even he says he has to take a side step to see what factors went wrong for him and I've walked some of those streets with him.
There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.
They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.
There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.
If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi. When you do step outside, walk with a purpose. If you make a note of open businesses on your way in, head for the closest. If someone tries to stop you, say "no gracias" and keep moving towards the next business.
The only way this scam works is if they can keep you off balance. When you don't respond the way they expect, it puts them off balance. Every step you take away from their chosen spot, moves you farther away from danger. If weapons come out, give them what you have and get out of there. Otherwise just keep moving towards that next open business.
Best advice, keep your eyes open and be aware of your surroundings.There was a guy a few years past who was doing this, now it looks like he may have a crew or a copy cats. Keep your wits about you. If you see the same guys hanging around when you come back out, walk back into the casa and talk with the jeffe's. Tell them and maybe they will confirm if go or no go. Waiting it out is safer than taking the risk to walk down the street. Always walk towards uniform officers on their bikes. Most of these copy cats will not have the means to copy an officers bike. If they do, that's a good imposter.
Mr Enternational
11-21-17, 18:14
Good luck with that, let us know how you make out.It is not about big balls and all that other shit. To me there is absolutely nothing wrong with downtown Medellin, Bogota, Rio. But when it comes to Caracas it is time to say FUCK THAT! 11 or so years ago I had a girlfriend in the hood in Caracas and I used to stay at her place. (This picture is from the beach that we used to go to near the airport. She lives in Panama now.) But these days I would not go around Caracas PERIOD. You would probably come out better going to Syria. Go to Calle 18 in Guayaquil, Ecuador if you must have $6 pussy. The $8 pussy and $11 hotels in Medellin suit me just fine.
Good post. Some irresponsible people recommend El Centro and the streets to gringos. Gringos should take taxi and avoid street in Centro. Basically there is no "hidden gem" in Centro.I think there used to be hidden gems in Centro. However, the area seems to be played out. You can still find something nice, but for most guys, it's not going to be worth it.
I agree with you on the irresponsible thing. Just because you go there a couple times with no problems doesn't mean it's safe for the next guy. The odds of something bad happening are much higher than they are in Poblado.
She had no dick DICK. Jerking off being a relative term, I. E. , masturbating and climaxing together. She was rubbing her wet box with one hand and sucking one of her double dee titties with the other hand. After she came, I jacked between her idylic set of fun bags. This debauchery of course took place after we banged during which she came a couple of times. Total damage for the night was 100 k plus taxi.
What JR should have been quoting, is it pays dividends when you have multiple sessions with a chica as opposed to the in and out centro casas. I wasn't hip to this when I first started coming here, but now see the value of the "Chica Date" angle.
Late,
Judd.
Tonight, we both jerked off together. LOL.
So, you picked up a chick with a dick and you whacked off in front of each other?
To each their own I guess. HA!
Go to Venezuela? Caracas. I ask this question here, because like Caracas, Medellin still has this aire of being "too dangerous" to visit. While this aire is more imagined than the actual dangers in Caracas, I venture to think it MAY not be AS dangerous as many of us believe. I guess it comes down to your level of being risk averse. Many who monger often in Medellin warn of the dangers of El Centro. I grew up in very nasty places in New Orleans and El Centro doesn't scare me because I have always been on guard when walking the street there or anywhere else at night. Perhaps part of why I haven't experienced this danger is because I don't look like a "typical" gringo and know how to "mean mug" and walk with a purpose. Before I leave a place in Centro, I generally go into the bathroom stall, look at my map or whatever to figure out where I'm going and leave with those directions in my head.
Anyway, back to the point. Pussy is $7 an hour in Caracas and 3/4 star hotels go for $11 per night, sooo, yeah, I'm fucking thinking about it. Anyone else want to jump in on making plans for a trip March / April of next year? PM me.The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.
Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.
The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.
Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.
4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.
US cities St Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit all make the top 50 list also and are more dangerous then Medellin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world.html
Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.
4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali.... I did not think Cali that dangerous but that was just my perception. I met some very nice people from Cali (families) at a restaurant in Laureles last year. They sat with me because I was alone at a large table and the restaurant was otherwise full. They spoke highly of Cali, naturally, and said they thought it a better city than Medellin. I would like to visit because the Cali look is different than MDE and can be very beautiful.
The most beautiful woman I have been with in my life was from Cali. She was working Golden Time in Panama City. Unbelievable girl. So far out of my league, Stunning!
The Tall Man
11-22-17, 00:36
I did not think Cali that dangerous but that was just my perception. I met some very nice people from Cali (families) at a restaurant in Laureles last year. They sat with me because I was alone at a large table and the restaurant was otherwise full. They spoke highly of Cali, naturally, and said they thought it a better city than Medellin. I would like to visit because the Cali look is different than MDE and can be very beautiful.
The most beautiful woman I have been with in my life was from Cali. She was working Golden Time in Panama City. Unbelievable girl. So far out of my league, Stunning!Cali does have have some beauties, I was there this past April, did not think too much of the city per se but then again I spent little time there HOWEVER my next city to visit was Buenaventura, what a hell hole, this was right before the riots.
TTM.
That's all good advice. I especially appreciate the idea of dressing to blend in. There is no excuse anymore for people who show up in wildly out of context clothing. We have the Internet and and street view maps that show exactly how people dress in different parts of cities.
On another note, to guys saying inexperienced travelers have to stay in Poblado or gringo hotels I agree it's true in some cases but that is not for everybody. As another poster said very well. YMMV. The message is be alert and use common sense. It can be misleading telling guys all is good in upscale neighborhoods. It's true the crime rate is generally much lower but there have been robberies and murders in Poblado and yes, the Mansion was stuck up by armed hooligans too. I'm guessing no one saw it coming except maybe a confederate working on the inside.
I would be thrilled to tell you, not only which casas, but also the street address and everything that was said, except it didn't happen to me. I just ended up having a beer with someone it happened to the evening after it happened. Mostly he was embarrassed about being caught off guard and not knowing how to handle the situation.
If I ask him and report the exact location, it will do more harm than good. Because there will be someone who sees the name of a casa and decides all he needs to do to be safe, is go to a different casa. When he's confronted by the same guys 2 blocks away, if he doesn't know what to do the result is the same.
Being safe in the streets isn't about avoiding 1 or 2 corners. It's not even about avoiding a certain area with known risks. On Sunday I spent most of the day on a semi-guided tour through a lot of barrios, including 1 where no monger should ever go. At no time did I feel the least bit uncomfortable and at no time was I in more danger than in Poblado. Because I know correct behavior..
Everybody has to decide for themselves. I am friends with a guy from Venezuela who got transferred to the US by his job a few years ago while Chavez was still alive. He goes home once or twice a year. He told me he wanted to go out to dinner and a sporting event in Caracas last time he was there but his family told him to forget about it because it is "way too dangerous."
It is not about big balls and all that other shit. To me there is absolutely nothing wrong with downtown Medellin, Bogota, Rio. But when it comes to Caracas it is time to say FUCK THAT! 11 or so years ago I had a girlfriend in the hood in Caracas and I used to stay at her place. (This picture is from the beach that we used to go to near the airport. She lives in Panama now.) But these days I would not go around Caracas PERIOD. You would probably come out better going to Syria. Go to Calle 18 in Guayaquil, Ecuador if you must have $6 pussy. The $8 pussy and $11 hotels in Medellin suit me just fine.
I did not think Cali that dangerous but that was just my perception. I met some very nice people from Cali (families) at a restaurant in Laureles last year. They sat with me because I was alone at a large table and the restaurant was otherwise full. They spoke highly of Cali, naturally, and said they thought it a better city than Medellin. I would like to visit because the Cali look is different than MDE and can be very beautiful.
The most beautiful woman I have been with in my life was from Cali. She was working Golden Time in Panama City. Unbelievable girl. So far out of my league, Stunning!Almost all Colombians will say their city is the best, LOL.
Cali has some beauties for sure, I don't really like the city itself though.
I just feel better in Medellin, better climate, more green, overall nicer people IMO.
It is not about big balls and all that other shit. To me there is absolutely nothing wrong with downtown Medellin, Bogota, Rio. But when it comes to Caracas it is time to say FUCK THAT! 11 or so years ago I had a girlfriend in the hood in Caracas and I used to stay at her place. (This picture is from the beach that we used to go to near the airport. She lives in Panama now.) But these days I would not go around Caracas PERIOD. You would probably come out better going to Syria. Go to Calle 18 in Guayaquil, Ecuador if you must have $6 pussy. The $8 pussy and $11 hotels in Medellin suit me just fine.I read somewhere that the city is now ranked #1 on one of the business magazines as the most dangerous city. I think I will have to agree with your opinion as of current state.
The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.
Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.
The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.
Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.
4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.
US cities St Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit all make the top 50 list also and are more dangerous then Medellin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world.htmlI was just talking about this with a bud on this topic this morning. You must have read the same report. For all those reading, I've been hitting TJ (#22) and many parts of that city and felt safe as long as I was not in Centro and kept my wits about me when I am. Never really had a bad incident other than the local monkees shaking me down. Hell, I now avoid the local monkees when I see them more than the locals because I may look like an easy mark.
YippieKayay
11-22-17, 02:51
The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.
Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.
The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.
Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.
4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.
US cities St Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit all make the top 50 list also and are more dangerous then Medellin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world.htmlI love data but there's an inherent problem with these stats: it takes into account the city as a whole (which can include suburbs). Now show me the stats of homicides in a specific neighborhood in these cities that a monger would want to go to and you have more relevant data. I can go to Baltimore and stay out of all the "bad" areas and never worry but can I do the same in Medellin or Bogota? I suspect the real answer lies there.
The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.
Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.
The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.
Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.
4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.If you buy one Power Ball ticket your odds of winning are tiny. If you buy 100 tickets your odds are 100 times better but still tiny.
I love data but there's an inherent problem with these stats: it takes into account the city as a whole (which can include suburbs). Now show me the stats of homicides in a specific neighborhood in these cities that a monger would want to go to and you have more relevant data. I can go to Baltimore and stay out of all the "bad" areas and never worry but can I do the same in Medellin or Bogota? I suspect the real answer lies there.This article has a breakdown of murders by neighborhood:
https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/
"Robberies / thefts of people reported in Medellin between January 1 and May 14,2016, were 13 percent less than the same period in the previous year. 49 percent of these robberies / thefts during the period were in El Centro. The second most common comuna for a robbery was Laureles followed by El Poblado.
If you normalize these counts by population El Poblado and Laureles have a similar population of about 125,000 while El Centro has a lower population of about 85,000 but it also has many visitors during the day doing shopping.
The most common items stolen were cell phones, followed by money and clothes and jewelry.
In El Poblado, robberies / thefts totaled 220 during the reporting period, which was up 15% compared to the same period in 2015. This may be due to thieves targeting the wealthy area of Medellin and tourists in the area.
La Candelaria (El Centro) remains the most dangerous part of Medellin with the highest counts of robberies / thefts, motorcycle thefts, homicides and sexual offenses. That is why you will see an increased police presence in El Centro.
In terms of homicides, the highest counts during the period between January 1 and May 14,2016 were found in La Candelaria with 28, Robledo with 21 and Castilla with 19. During this reporting period only 2 of the 171 homicides in Medelland were in El Poblado. ".
"Foreigner Homicides in Medellin in 2016.
Most foreigner homicides in Medellin I have seen reported in the news in over six years was a result of something the foreigners did. These are typically related to resisting a robbery or being involved in shady activities like drugs or prostitution.
There were nine reported homicides of foreigners in Medellin in 2016. We'll look at these in detail to demonstrate that a majority of foreigner homicides in the city tend to be the result of resisting robberies or being involved in shady activities.
On June 4, Mexican national Jess Estrada de La Rosa, aged 48, was shot dead in Beland when he reportedly tried to prevent the theft of a motorcycle in the LOS Alpes barrio.
June 15, Israeli Shay Azran, aged 37, was killed with a firearm near the Exito in Laureles. He was allegedly involved in drug and sex tourism according to news reports.
June 16, Danish Tomas Willemoes, aged 41, was shot to the head in Provenza near Parque Lleras in El Poblado at about 9:30 pm. News reports claim this was a murder for hire so it may have involved shady activities.
September 29, the body of Australian Anthony Hasselback, aged 49, who was living in El Poblado was found along a road with two shots to the head in the municipality of Santo Domingo in Northeastern Antioquia. News reports claim he was involved in sex tourism.
November 19, Ryo Izaki, a 22-year-old Japanese man was shot dead in Estadio on a Saturday at about 4 pm after chasing a pair of suspects who had allegedly taken his mobile phone and tablet.
December 3, a Venezuelan member of the LBGT community was murdered who reportedly had sentimental problems.
In December, the body of a 23-year-old Dutch man was found in Laureles. News reports indicate that on December 10 this backpacker had a discussion with a woman and was shot.
December 14, American Jigar Patel from Illinois was attacked by a knife and killed in the barrio Miranda north of Medellin by two assailants.
On December 16, a body of a man from Dominica was found buried in a wooded area of 8203;the Santa Elena district. He was reportedly kidnapped from a shopping mall in El Poblado in October. News reports indicate this homicide was related to the collection of money by drug trafficking networks.
Also there were at least six foreigner deaths in Medellin in 2016 due to drug overdoses reported in the news.
Medellin Safety Tips.
Medellin is safe to visit if you handle yourself properly and use common sense. We have a number of safety tips that should greatly reduce your risk of being a victim of crime in the city.
Dress conservatively. Look to see how Colombians dress. If you have on shorts and flip-flops in Medellin you are broadcasting that you are a foreigner.
Stay in groups at night. Don't walk alone at night through unfamiliar areas. Take taxis at night.
Never resist if you are a robbery victim. Most thieves will have a gun or knife and will not hesitate to use them. It's not worth risking your life for a few hundred dollars.
Don't leave your drink unattended. It only takes a second for someone to drop something like Scopolamine in your drink.
Don't flash cellphones, cameras or money. Don't display expensive electronics in public places or wear fancy jewelry.
Don't use ATMs on the street stick to ATMs in malls or grocery stores. And be conscious of who might be around.
Be wary of motorcycles whether in a taxi or walking down the street. Robberies by people on a motorcycle are common. Be especially cautious if you see two men on a motorcycle.
Be particularly careful in El Centro. There have been ongoing security problems in chaotic El Centro, especially at night. Some parts of El Centro are magnets for the homeless, drug addicts and drunks and street crime is common. The highest reported crime rates in the city tend to be in El Centro.
Don't be fooled by El Poblado. It may appear to be safe but the statistics indicate that robberies are increasing in El Poblado, which may be due to thieves targeting tourists and the wealthy area of the city.
Don't partake in activities that are probably illegal in your home country (even if they are legal here). Participating in shady activities increases your likelihood of being a crime victim.
Stay away from the poorest neighborhoods of the city like Popular, Santa Cruz, Manrique and 12 de Octubre. Like any big city, Medellin has several neighborhoods that are more dangerous and are not really places for foreigners.
Don't carry your passport with you everywhere. Lock it up in a safe location and carry a copy with you along with another ID like a driver's license or cedula. Only bring credit cards or ATM cards with you that you plan to use.
Keep a low profile so you don't become a target. Be careful about displaying your money or valuables and don't give out information about where you live or are staying to strangers. ".
YK makes an excellent point. I would also add that there is more to the definition of "dangerous" than getting murdered. Who cares if you avoid getting murdered if you get killed in a car accident? Or would you consider a "safe" trip one where you did not get murdered or die in a car wreck but contracted hepatitis, yellow fever, malaria, or HIV? Or broke your ankle on a crappy sidewalk? Right now I am in a Latin Amrican town where I fear falling on the sidewalks or cobblestones more than getting murdered.
One thing I will say is that, as compared to the US with its random mass shootings, there is usually a reason underlying murders in LatAm. Fucking someone else's woman, getting involved with drugs, etc. , as opposed to minding your own business at a concert in Las Vegas or a church in Texas or a school in California or or or or or ...
I have not been in Caracas in a long time but unless things have drastically changed, who cares if it is dangerous or not? It is boring and sucks.
SMH! Why would you pay in US dollars when you are in Col? This the is the problem guys. Let's get educated before we go out and monger guys. Before you know it Medellin will be way to expensive if not already in poblado. No thanks to guys like this that ruin it for all of us. Good luck next time.How can another guy ruin it for you? If some chica asks you to pay something that you don't want to pay, don't. Next!
SavePros321
11-22-17, 05:15
I have not been in Caracas in a long time but unless things have drastically changed, who cares if it is dangerous or not? It is boring and sucks.That can be said with about 98% of the places we go to monger. We wouldn't be there if not for the legal P4P and willing participants. I mean, how many times are you going to visit Pablo Escobar’s grave or visit Gutape?
It's like the old saying about a woman: if it were not for her having a snatch, we would never talk to them!
Nah. Most of the places I go to monger are inherently interesting as well, at least for a couple of days. Bogotá has the gold museum, Zipaquirá nearby, Montserrate, etc. Quito has the funicular or cable or whatever exactly it is, up to the top of the mountain near La Linea. Panamá City sucks but has the canal to visit. Spain is a great place for mongering and anything else you want to do. Buenos Aires is a world class city with lots of art and yadda yadda. Bangkok is fascinating. Caracas has um I forget. Car exhaust. Lots of car exhaust is what I remember. But, I did not monger there.
Not me, that's my buddies. They are rich so they don't care.
Haha yeah, I told them I was coming back and they wanted to come along butI told them I'm going by myself.Most of us here make a good living or we wouldn't be able to pursue this hobby like we do. Most of us could easily give every chica we fuck 1 million or more pesos. But we don't because we're not stupid. There are many good reasons to not overpay even if the money is inconsequential for you.
Black Page
11-22-17, 13:31
Most of us here make a good living or we wouldn't be able to pursue this hobby like we do. Most of us could easily give every chica we fuck 1 million or more pesos. But we don't because we're not stupid. There are many good reasons to not overpay even if the money is inconsequential for you.One good reason is that if I have 1 millions to invest I will use it to enjoy a group of 10 girls, rather than just one with Princess attitude.
Go to Calle 18 in Guayaquil, Ecuador if you must have $6 pussy. .
Thumbs up for you! I guess not many regulars of the Medellin thread do know about LaDieciOcho in Guayaquil.
However, last time I visited La18, the prices were higher already: I may be wrong, but above $10 already, maybe $12.
I think that to find 600-penny pussies in Ecuador, we have to go back to the Old Golden Times reported by Tungurahua in Quito (everyone please stand up to show respect for the true Master of ISG).
Tungurahua, wherever you are now, I will never forget your stories.
Nah. Most of the places I go to monger are inherently interesting as well, at least for a couple of days. Bogot has the gold museum, Zipaquir nearby, Montserrate, etc. Quito has the funicular or cable or whatever exactly it is, up to the top of the mountain near La Linea. Panam City sucks but has the canal to visit. Spain is a great place for mongering and anything else you want to do. Buenos Aires is a world class city with lots of art and yadda yadda. Bangkok is fascinating. Caracas has um I forget. Car exhaust. Lots of car exhaust is what I remember. But, I did not monger there.Buenos Aires used to be my second favorite destination in South America. Had some really great times there. Last visit was 2010. P4P has gone completely downhill there. Why? Hope Medellin does not head in that direction.
Thumbs up for you! I guess not many regulars of the Medellin thread do know about LaDieciOcho in Guayaquil. Is Ecuador a "recommend"?
One good reason is that if I have 1 millions to invest I will use it to enjoy a group of 10 girls, rather than just one with Princess attitude.
Diversify, you get better experience of the locals and not losing out on one if you make a bad decision.
YippieKayay
11-22-17, 17:04
Is Ecuador a "recommend"?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSJnO-tUORQ
It's like Santa Fe in Bogota. A street full of brothels and hookers. I haven't been because I hear you have to show your passport to enter the chongos (brothels). You can find more discussion in the Guayaquil thread.
Recommend? Depends on your taste. It only interests me because of the sheer depravity of having so many hookers concentrated in one place.
Black Page
11-22-17, 17:29
Is Ecuador a "recommend"?Yes for the nature (on the Andes), not for P4P.
And if you go for leisure and some P4P, chongos, underground life, strictly avoid Guayaquil. Go to Quito.
Is Quito a recommend? NO, unless you are Tungurahua (but you are not, he's the One), but however better than anywhere else in Ecuador.
Are Ecuadorean girls pretty? 90% NO. Are they easy to bed? 99% NO!
It's like Santa Fe in Bogota. A street full of brothels and hookers. I haven't been because I hear you have to show your passport to enter the chongos (brothels). You can find more discussion in the Guayaquil thread.This passport thing is new to me. I've been there many times, but not in the last 3-4 years.
I remember one door man in Guayaquil who asked me the passport before entering a popular chicabar one night. He said it's for security. I guess he just wanted $5 tip, as he let me in after receiving the token of appreciation for his concerns about my safety on site.
It has nothing to do with Santa Fe! If you want a similarity, it may be more like La Linea of Guatemala. It is ONE STREET, while Santa Fe is an area of several blocks. There are no clubs and strip bars. It's a place with WLs waiting for customers in their small rooms in the back. It was famous for being very dangerous ("cada DIA matavan a uno en la calle", a taxi driver told me, maybe just to be bombastic), but now I read there is a lot of police and was converted into something safer, but also not very interesting to visit, at least from the social point of view.
If you search the Guayaquil thread for my nick, you can find reports I wrote several years ago from La18.
The fee was, say, around $8 some years ago when I visited first, but then increased. That fee gives you a short session of mechanical sex. Nothing like what you are used to get in Colombia. I tried ONCE, and the other times I just had a beer inside one of the bars (bars are for beers, $1 each, not for girls).
Diversify, you get better experience of the locals and not losing out on one if you make a bad decision.Yes, but maybe you did not understand I mean "10 girls all together all around me at the same time", instead of "10 girls one after the other". :P
This article has a breakdown of murders by neighborhood:
https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/
"Robberies / thefts of people reported in Medellin between January 1 and May 14,2016, were 13 percent less than the same period in the previous year. 49 percent of these robberies / thefts during the period were in El Centro. The second most common comuna for a robbery was Laureles followed by El Poblado.
If you normalize these counts by population El Poblado and Laureles have a similar population of about 125,000 while El Centro has a lower population of about 85,000 but it also has many visitors during the day doing shopping.
The most common items stolen were cell phones, followed by money and clothes and jewelry.
In El Poblado, robberies / thefts totaled 220 during the reporting period, which was up 15% compared to the same period in 2015. This may be due to thieves targeting the wealthy area of Medellin and tourists in the area.
La Candelaria (El Centro) remains the most dangerous part of Medellin with the highest counts of robberies / thefts, motorcycle thefts, homicides and sexual offenses. That is why you will see an increased police presence in El Centro.
In terms of homicides, the highest counts during the period between January 1 and May 14,2016 were found in La Candelaria with 28, Robledo with 21 and Castilla with 19. During this reporting period only 2 of the 171 homicides in Medelland were in El Poblado. ".
"Foreigner Homicides in Medellin in 2016.
Most foreigner homicides in Medellin I have seen reported in the news in over six years was a result of something the foreigners did. These are typically related to resisting a robbery or being involved in shady activities like drugs or prostitution.
There were nine reported homicides of foreigners in Medellin in 2016. We'll look at these in detail to demonstrate that a majority of foreigner homicides in the city tend to be the result of resisting robberies or being involved in shady activities.
On June 4, Mexican national Jess Estrada de La Rosa, aged 48, was shot dead in Beland when he reportedly tried to prevent the theft of a motorcycle in the LOS Alpes barrio.
June 15, Israeli Shay Azran, aged 37, was killed with a firearm near the Exito in Laureles. He was allegedly involved in drug and sex tourism according to news reports.
June 16, Danish Tomas Willemoes, aged 41, was shot to the head in Provenza near Parque Lleras in El Poblado at about 9:30 pm. News reports claim this was a murder for hire so it may have involved shady activities.
September 29, the body of Australian Anthony Hasselback, aged 49, who was living in El Poblado was found along a road with two shots to the head in the municipality of Santo Domingo in Northeastern Antioquia. News reports claim he was involved in sex tourism.
November 19, Ryo Izaki, a 22-year-old Japanese man was shot dead in Estadio on a Saturday at about 4 pm after chasing a pair of suspects who had allegedly taken his mobile phone and tablet.
December 3, a Venezuelan member of the LBGT community was murdered who reportedly had sentimental problems.
In December, the body of a 23-year-old Dutch man was found in Laureles. News reports indicate that on December 10 this backpacker had a discussion with a woman and was shot.
December 14, American Jigar Patel from Illinois was attacked by a knife and killed in the barrio Miranda north of Medellin by two assailants.
On December 16, a body of a man from Dominica was found buried in a wooded area of 8203;the Santa Elena district. He was reportedly kidnapped from a shopping mall in El Poblado in October. News reports indicate this homicide was related to the collection of money by drug trafficking networks.
Also there were at least six foreigner deaths in Medellin in 2016 due to drug overdoses reported in the news.
Medellin Safety Tips.
Medellin is safe to visit if you handle yourself properly and use common sense. We have a number of safety tips that should greatly reduce your risk of being a victim of crime in the city.
Dress conservatively. Look to see how Colombians dress. If you have on shorts and flip-flops in Medellin you are broadcasting that you are a foreigner.
Stay in groups at night. Don't walk alone at night through unfamiliar areas. Take taxis at night.
Never resist if you are a robbery victim. Most thieves will have a gun or knife and will not hesitate to use them. It's not worth risking your life for a few hundred dollars.
Don't leave your drink unattended. It only takes a second for someone to drop something like Scopolamine in your drink.
Don't flash cellphones, cameras or money. Don't display expensive electronics in public places or wear fancy jewelry.
Don't use ATMs on the street stick to ATMs in malls or grocery stores. And be conscious of who might be around.
Be wary of motorcycles whether in a taxi or walking down the street. Robberies by people on a motorcycle are common. Be especially cautious if you see two men on a motorcycle.
Be particularly careful in El Centro. There have been ongoing security problems in chaotic El Centro, especially at night. Some parts of El Centro are magnets for the homeless, drug addicts and drunks and street crime is common. The highest reported crime rates in the city tend to be in El Centro.
Don't be fooled by El Poblado. It may appear to be safe but the statistics indicate that robberies are increasing in El Poblado, which may be due to thieves targeting tourists and the wealthy area of the city.
Don't partake in activities that are probably illegal in your home country (even if they are legal here). Participating in shady activities increases your likelihood of being a crime victim.
Stay away from the poorest neighborhoods of the city like Popular, Santa Cruz, Manrique and 12 de Octubre. Like any big city, Medellin has several neighborhoods that are more dangerous and are not really places for foreigners.
Don't carry your passport with you everywhere. Lock it up in a safe location and carry a copy with you along with another ID like a driver's license or cedula. Only bring credit cards or ATM cards with you that you plan to use.
Keep a low profile so you don't become a target. Be careful about displaying your money or valuables and don't give out information about where you live or are staying to strangers. ".What you've stated is by all means very sound advice. Most of the gringo's I see are always in shorts and flip flops and most of the time they are backpackers. I SMH every time I see them. To those who says I've walked the streets in "city", well, its a numbers game. The objective is to keep a low profile and keep your wits as this is about enjoying and being safe. We gringo's have a false sense of safety mainly because here in the US it normally is. BUT do not bring this to other places as crime is always around the corner and you just have to stay alert. When its late and dark, I always take a taxi and not random but using the app because you will know who is coming. I always look at my surroundings before getting into the cab or before it arrives so I can see who is watching, normally I look for 2 people on a motorcycle to see what they are doing. This is normally how they rob people. Look to see if there License plate is displayed on their jackets, if not, it normally is used to hide who they are. Be safe and keep your wits around you.
Mr Enternational
11-22-17, 18:31
If you search the Guayaquil thread for my nick, you can find reports I wrote several years ago from La18.
The fee was, say, around $8 some years ago when I visited first, but then increased. That fee gives you a short session of mechanical sex. Nothing like what you are used to get in Colombia. I tried ONCE, It must have been about 10 years ago when I went. I remember fucking a chick and she was playing with her phone. I said put that damn phone down. She said you are only paying $6. I guess I couldn't really argue with her on that. Later the driver of the taxi that I took out of La 18 took me to some strip clubs where there were little closets with beds in them at the back of the room and you could take a girl inside for $20.
With that being said, to me, if you are not going to Brazil then Medellin is the best thing going on this side of the planet for mongering.
Headed to MDE for the first time. Any can't miss parties or events going on? Anyone need a wingman?
Buenos Aires used to be my second favorite destination in South America. Had some really great times there. Last visit was 2010. P4P has gone completely downhill there. Why? Hope Medellin does not head in that direction.The short answer is years and years of a feminist president who did not understand Econ 101.
Differentdays2
11-23-17, 05:25
Howdy guys. First time here and possibly last as I rarely travel.
BUT What a city you guys have here. I have been here less than 24 hours and I already have a sore neck from my walks around Santa Cruz and Poblado. I am older and despite the multiple options, I prefer the lazy call girl to my hotel method.
That said, I dipped in tonight with what turned out to be an agency. Started with Colombia. topescortbabes.com.
I communicated off and on via WhatsApp with Daniella. (so I thought) She was very punctual and stunningly cute. That said, rules rules and more rules. I can only compare to stateside, so for the outlay it was fine.
I'm only here two more days. So I have a request, can you recommend one Casa, and one website or directory for a hotel girl?
I read back a ways here, but I probably not far enough.
P.S. I speak passable Spanish. But darn these Colombian dialect and speed makes me feel like I'm stupid at times.
Thanks guys.
Blue Touch
11-23-17, 13:35
It is my understanding that the current conservative president Macri, not CFK, began the crackdown on the brothels. I know this should be discussed on the Argentine thread though.
The short answer is years and years of a feminist president who did not understand Econ 101.
Guys a few questions before I leave in a day:
I've selected the brothels I would like to visit:
1. New Life Calle 56 #43-39.
2. Aifee (Around corner from New Life).
4. Paisa Relax Calle Balo Carrea 60.
5. Afrodita Calle Balo Carrea 45.
6. Paris Club Carrera 47 #56-34.
7. Zandalay (not far from Club Paris) Carrera 47 #57 a-34, piso 2.
8. Energy, Carrera 74, #49-101.
*Can anyone recommend a hotel that is sort of central to me getting to these brothels? I also have a few ColombiaCupid hookups so the hotel needs to be girl friendly. And I don't want sparse accommodations. Something nice.
*Would you agree that getting money from the Bancolombia ATM is the best place to get money after getting off of the flight?
*My flight is getting in very late. Is Uber or a taxi best bet from airport to my hotel?
*Are the brothels open on Sunday?
Showdown.
It is my understanding that the current conservative president Macri, not CFK, began the crackdown on the brothels. I know this should be discussed on the Argentine thread though.Well, your understanding and me living there are probably two different things. CFK was still president when I left and almost all the clubs had been shut down already.
Blue Touch
11-23-17, 16:33
Well, your understanding and me living there are probably two different things. CFK was still president when I left and almost all the clubs had been shut down already.Thank you, mine was misunderstanding.
The Tall Man
11-23-17, 16:34
Guys a few questions before I leave in a day:
I've selected the brothels I would like to visit:
1. New Life Calle 56 #43-39.
2. Aifee (Around corner from New Life).
4. Paisa Relax Calle Balo Carrea 60.
5. Afrodita Calle Balo Carrea 45.
6. Paris Club Carrera 47 #56-34.
7. Zandalay (not far from Club Paris) Carrera 47 #57 a-34, piso 2.
8. Energy, Carrera 74, #49-101.
*Can anyone recommend a hotel that is sort of central to me getting to these brothels? I also have a few ColombiaCupid hookups so the hotel needs to be girl friendly. And I don't want sparse accommodations. Something nice.
*Would you agree that getting money from the Bancolombia ATM is the best place to get money after getting off of the flight?
*My flight is getting in very late. Is Uber or a taxi best bet from airport to my hotel?
*Are the brothels open on Sunday?
Showdown.Don't forget the Love Motels located throughout Medellin, all are reasonably clean and safe and discrete, have at it for 3 or 4 hours in a comfortable setting.
Have fun and if your like me you wished that you had 5 dicks.
TTM.
You selected a pretty good representation. Most of them are in Centro so check for recommended hotels on this forum. The Nutibara is a nice compromise between the ultra low end and the nicer but farther away places in Poblado. Have fun!
Guys a few questions before I leave in a day:
I've selected the brothels I would like to visit:
1. New Life Calle 56 #43-39.
2. Aifee (Around corner from New Life).
4. Paisa Relax Calle Balo Carrea 60.
5. Afrodita Calle Balo Carrea 45.
6. Paris Club Carrera 47 #56-34..
Guys a few questions before I leave in a day:
I've selected the brothels I would like to visit:
1. New Life Calle 56 #43-39.
2. Aifee (Around corner from New Life).
4. Paisa Relax Calle Balo Carrea 60.
5. Afrodita Calle Balo Carrea 45.
6. Paris Club Carrera 47 #56-34.
7. Zandalay (not far from Club Paris) Carrera 47 #57 a-34, piso 2..All that you have listed are fairly close together in El Centro, except for Energy which is west in Estadio. So no hotel is going to be convenient to everything.
Sparse accommodations is what you will be limited to if you want chica friendly hotels near the casas in El Centro. Being in El Centro might also hurt your chances with any CC hookups. They are looking to get out of the poor neighborhood.
You have 2 other options outside of El Centro, either Poblado or Laureles. Chica friendly is still going to be a problem, unless you go with an AirBnB, or other apartment rental. Taxis are reasonable.
Many of the casas are open on Sunday, but Energy is closed. Your best bet from the airport is either one of the white taxis for 65 k or to schedule with one of the women who provides airport transportation. Search the forum for Vico Zul.
Search the Medellin Hotels thread for apartment information.
This article has a breakdown of murders by neighborhood:
https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/
"Robberies / thefts of people reported in Medellin between January 1 and May 14,2016, were 13 percent less than the same period in the previous year. 49 percent of these robberies / thefts during the period were in El Centro. The second most common comuna for a robbery was Laureles followed by El Poblado.
In terms of homicides, the highest counts during the period between January 1 and May 14,2016 were found in La Candelaria with 28, Robledo with 21 and Castilla with 19. During this reporting period only 2 of the 171 homicides in Medelland were in El Poblado. ".
"Foreigner Homicides in Medellin in 2016.
Most foreigner homicides in Medellin I have seen reported in the news in over six years was a result of something the foreigners did. These are typically related to resisting a robbery or being involved in shady activities like drugs or prostitution.
There were nine reported homicides of foreigners in Medellin in 2016. We'll look at these in detail to demonstrate that a majority of foreigner homicides in the city tend to be the result of resisting robberies or being involved in shady activities..So out of 171 homicides in that time period 28 were in El Centro. However those were all Colombians, of the nine foreigners murdered in that time period we have: 1 in Beland, 1 in Estadio, 1 in Miranda, 2 in Laureles and 2 in El Poblado and one with no location given.
I have found Citibank gives the most $$s per transaction. This is important if your bank stateside charges a fee per transaction. In the past, I could pull 1. 5 mil pesos. Now, it seems to be capped at 1. 1 mil, around $360 usd. Hotel Nutibara seems to be the go to slightly upscale hotel in centro for mongers on this board.
Happy Chica Hunting!
Judd.
Guys a few questions before I leave in a day:
I've selected the brothels I would like to visit:
1. New Life Calle 56 #43-39.
2. Aifee (Around corner from New Life).
4. Paisa Relax Calle Balo Carrea 60.
5. Afrodita Calle Balo Carrea 45.
6. Paris Club Carrera 47 #56-34.
7. Zandalay (not far from Club Paris) Carrera 47 #57 a-34, piso 2.
8. Energy, Carrera 74, #49-101.
*Can anyone recommend a hotel that is sort of central to me getting to these brothels? I also have a few ColombiaCupid hookups so the hotel needs to be girl friendly. And I don't want sparse accommodations. Something nice.
*Would you agree that getting money from the Bancolombia ATM is the best place to get money after getting off of the flight?
*My flight is getting in very late. Is Uber or a taxi best bet from airport to my hotel?
*Are the brothels open on Sunday?
Showdown.
Guys a few questions before I leave in a day:
*Would you agree that getting money from the Bancolombia ATM is the best place to get money after getting off of the flight?
*My flight is getting in very late. Is Uber or a taxi best bet from airport to my hotel?
*Are the brothels open on Sunday?
Showdown.It is very convenient to get money from the Bancolombia ATM's at the airport. When you exit baggage claim, stay inside the airport past the first exit doors onto the sidewalk. Less than 100 feet past those exit doors, there are two Bancolombia ATM's on the right side. Last week, I got 600,000 COP (about $200). I tried to get another 600,000, but it refused. Bancolombia does not charge any fees for using their ATM's.
I have never tried to get Uber from the airport. I imagine it is very hit and miss. There may be a driver hanging around if he has just dropped someone off. Just outside the ATM's, to the right, there should be taxis. Most of them are white, but there may be some yellow ones there. They should have some official markings to indicate they are official. I don't think the airport allows gypsy taxis in that area. You will go past people outside of baggage claim asking if you want a taxi. I have never went with any of those, but my guess is they are probably gypsy drivers. There is a set rate from the airport to downtown. I think the white taxis are 60,000 and the yellow are 65,000. Confirm before you leave the airport. Either will take you directly to your hotel. Uber or a taxi is your best bet late at night.
Most brothels are open on Sunday, but not as many hours as other days.
I'm only here two more days. So I have a request, can you recommend one Casa, and one website or directory for a hotel girl?I realize this is a late response for you, since your timeframe is very short. I have never used a website, and very few casas. I have read many good reports of mileroticos (https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/). I don't know enough about the casas to recommend any.
There are always uber cars available at the airport. They charge 40,000 to 50,000 to Poblado depending on traffic conditions. You can check their availability and get a fare estimate at any time, you don't even have to be in Colombia. If you use uber you know you can change your location or send a car for someone anywhere uber operates, from wherever you are.
It is very convenient to get money from the Bancolombia ATM's at the airport. When you exit baggage claim, stay inside the airport past the first exit doors onto the sidewalk. Less than 100 feet past those exit doors, there are two Bancolombia ATM's on the right side. Last week, I got 600,000 COP (about $200). I tried to get another 600,000, but it refused. Bancolombia does not charge any fees for using their ATM's.
I have never tried to get Uber from the airport. I imagine it is very hit and miss. There may be a driver hanging around if he has just dropped someone off. Just outside the ATM's, to the right, there should be taxis. Most of them are white, but there may be some yellow ones there. They should have some official markings to indicate they are official. I don't think the airport allows gypsy taxis in that area. You will go past people outside of baggage claim asking if you want a taxi. I have never went with any of those, but my guess is they are probably gypsy drivers. There is a set rate from the airport to downtown. I think the white taxis are 60,000 and the yellow are 65,000. Confirm before you leave the airport. Either will take you directly to your hotel. Uber or a taxi is your best bet late at night.
Most brothels are open on Sunday, but not as many hours as other days.
Differentdays2
11-24-17, 07:06
I realize this is a late response for you, since your timeframe is very short. I have never used a website, and very few casas. I have read many good reports of mileroticos (https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/). I don't know enough about the casas to recommend any.Thanks that website proved legit for at least one gal.
Mr Enternational
11-25-17, 19:47
Fuck man. Just got some bad news that a friend of mine just died while vacationing in Colombia. Nobody has any details yet. He was from California and was living in Thailand where I met him. I bought his motorbike from him when he decided to leave Thailand at the beginning of June. I think he was only 61 years old, and a corrections officer, so I doubt it was anything shady on his part.
AussieStiffler
11-26-17, 04:20
Just got back to Paisaland after 3 mind blowing months in Brazil. Reports on relevant sub forums to come.
If any paid members wants to meet up for a beer or visit clubs together send me a message.
Happy to help newbies in town. Here until Jan '18.
That is really terrible news Mr. E. I'm sorry for your loss. Sixty-one is way too young for that.
Fuck man. Just got some bad news that a friend of mine just died while vacationing in Colombia. Nobody has any details yet. He was from California and was living in Thailand where I met him. I bought his motorbike from him when he decided to leave Thailand at the beginning of June. I think he was only 61 years old, and a corrections officer, so I doubt it was anything shady on his part.
Fuck man. Just got some bad news that a friend of mine just died while vacationing in Colombia. Nobody has any details yet. He was from California and was living in Thailand where I met him. I bought his motorbike from him when he decided to leave Thailand at the beginning of June. I think he was only 61 years old, and a corrections officer, so I doubt it was anything shady on his part.I hope the news is on the side of natural causes and nothing to do with the locals. Peace be with him.
I want to go back to Colombia next year. I won't be staying at the mansion this time. It's too expensive. The area where the mansion is, how many hotels are in that area that are girl friendly for 30 a night. I will be calling a lot of escorts so they would have to be girl friendly. Would I have to go a lot further out from there to get a hotel for 30. Are apartments a better deal.
I found a hotel called Egina Medellin on trivago for 35 a night. Looks real nice. Do you know if this hotel is girl friendly. It says 1.6 miles to city center. I'm assuming that's near Poblado.
I found a hotel called Egina Medellin on trivago for 35 a night. Looks real nice. Do you know if this hotel is girl friendly. It says 1.6 miles to city center. I'm assuming that's near Poblado.That hotel is in Laureles-Estadio, which is not close to Poblado. It is very close to the metro train. I have stayed in an apartment across the street from that hotel, and it doesn't have a chica friendly look to it. I can be completely wrong about that, though. That is a very nice area.
You are going to have to choose between being close to the Mansion or paying $30/ night. I think you best chance at staying near Poblado for that price and being able to have escorts coming and going is to rent an apartment. Be advised that in an apartment you are more responsible for your own security and for verifying your visitors. Plenty of girl friendly hotels are mentioned on this website. Why don't you make a list then look them up on trivago /hotels.com etc?
I want to go back to Colombia next year. I won't be staying at the mansion this time. It's too expensive. The area where the mansion is, how many hotels are in that area that are girl friendly for 30 a night. I will be calling a lot of escorts so they would have to be girl friendly. Would I have to go a lot further out from there to get a hotel for 30. Are apartments a better deal.
That hotel is in Laureles-Estadio, which is not close to Poblado. It is very close to the metro train. I have stayed in an apartment across the street from that hotel, and it doesn't have a chica friendly look to it. I can be completely wrong about that, though. That is a very nice area.Do I need to be in Poblado. I will be doing escorts and going to whatever massage parlors are near by anyway. What makes a hotel not chica friendly? The way the girl is dressed or no different girls every night. 35 is a good deal tho.
That hotel is in Laureles-Estadio, which is not close to Poblado. It is very close to the metro train. I have stayed in an apartment across the street from that hotel, and it doesn't have a chica friendly look to it. I can be completely wrong about that, though. That is a very nice area.Is being near the train better anyway. Will that get me to most of the massage parlors and strip clubs.
Here is the link if someone wants TGOFTT and stay their first night there to try it out.
https://bookings.hotelpower.com/hotels/deals/travolutionary/4184016?CheckIn=02%2F06%2F2018&CheckOut=02%2F13%2F2018&Rooms=1&MetaSearch&AdultsRoom1=2&ChildrenRoom1=0&ChildAge1Room1=1&ChildAge2Room1=1
Fuck man. Just got some bad news that a friend of mine just died while vacationing in Colombia. Nobody has any details yet. He was from California and was living in Thailand where I met him. I bought his motorbike from him when he decided to leave Thailand at the beginning of June. I think he was only 61 years old, and a corrections officer, so I doubt it was anything shady on his part.Damn Man. I'm In a state of suspended animation. Shocked. P last year, now him. Was just talking to him and he had just sent me some pics. We are still trying to find out what the whole story is. Be safe.
Is being near the train better anyway. Will that get me to most of the massage parlors and strip clubs.You really need to take some time and read the forum. Your posts show that you know almost nothing about Medellin. The key to a successful trip is preparation. All your questions have been answered many times. If you want a good trip go back and read.
You might find a place close to the Mansion for $45, but why would you want to be near the Mansion? There's nothing else in the area. There's only 2 massage places in Poblado. You'll pay much more than in El Centro and neither is close to the Mansion.
If you want a $30 hotel look in El Centro. On the plus side, you'll be very close to all the casas. On the down side, walking around at night might be a bad idea. Walking around in the daytime might make you nervous. You're also more likely to find chica friendly hotels in the area.
Your other option is to rent an apartment. Plenty of recommendations on the board for chica friendly apartments.
Staying near the metro is good if you are staying away from El Centro and want to save money. Tickets cost 2300 pesos. If you stay near Estadio, you can save about 10 k pesos each way to el Centro. Same if you stay in Poblado. Most people just spend the money for a taxi. The metro is also the quickest way to get around.
I found a hotel called Egina Medellin on trivago for 35 a night. Looks real nice. Do you know if this hotel is girl friendly. It says 1.6 miles to city center. I'm assuming that's near Poblado.I stayed a few nights at the Suite Comfort in Laurles, $35 / nt no chica fees, just had to see her cedula. There are some Milerotico chicas in Laurles, I had one Maria Fernanda, was great and walking distance to the hotel. She said there were 4 chicas in her house. Good luck.
Do I need to be in Poblado. I will be doing escorts and going to whatever massage parlors are near by anyway. What makes a hotel not chica friendly? The way the girl is dressed or no different girls every night. 35 is a good deal tho.An apartment would make more sense for you. Lots on airbnb. Also Poblado Rentals.
You don't need to be in Poblado. (Unless you have to be in an affluent, nice neighborhood).
If your building doesn't have a door person / registry, you have to make sure the chica has a legit ID (without exception!
An apartment would make more sense for you. Lots on airbnb. Also Poblado Rentals.
You don't need to be in Poblado. (Unless you have to be in an affluent, nice neighborhood).
If your building doesn't have a door person / registry, you have to make sure the chica has a legit ID (without exception!How do you know if its a legit ID and not a Traci Lords type ID. I check IDs in Mexico and assume they are legit but what the hell do I know.
Are [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls a problem in Medellin? Do they set you up. Will a 17 year old come to purposely blackmail you or if they have a fake ID they hope you don't check and they go about their business.
I was thinking on the hotel front to book my first night at the hotel I mentioned for 35 and see if they are girl friendly. If not, I can call the poplado rentals and look at the apartments while I'm there so I know what I'm getting. Its hard to beat 35 a night free breakfast and maid service everyday at a hotel.
Hello everyone,
I am going to Colombia for the first time in January 2018. I've already booked my flight but have not booked anywhere to stay yet. I am going solo and will be in Bogota, Medellin, and Cartagena. I can't decide if I should get a hotel room or a place on Airbnb. Which would be more chica friendly? Any particular areas in the 3 cities that are better to stay at? I prefer to stay in areas that are safe and near nightlife. I'm looking for recommendations.
I have been to the Del Rey in San Jose, CR many times, and also the Marriott in Panama City. Any places like that in Colombia?
Thanks in advance and happy mongering.
If you want to be able to have girls come and go with no problem and you want to be near casas and pay about $35/ night, I think your best bet is the Hotel Nutibara or someplace like it (there are several). You have to be careful to avoid lonely streets after dark (always a good idea) but the front desk will take care of most of the security for you. That's the best recommendation I can make.
Maybe you want to stay at the Mansion a night or two to convince yourself it's ok to stay somewhere else? I ask this because I've seen an irrational (for me at least) connection with the place with guys who badmouth it heavily but refuse to stay anywhere else.
Is being near the train better anyway. Will that get me to most of the massage parlors and strip clubs.
Is there a brothel where after the session you can lounge with the ladies like a FKK in Germany? I perhaps would like to recharge and perhaps go for another round before I leave.
Showdown.
Is being near the train better anyway. Will that get me to most of the massage parlors and strip clubs.The train will get you close to the massage parlors (Parque Berrio station). You should not take the train if going to the strip clubs, because you should not walk from the train station to the clubs at night. The train fare is less than $1. For about $1. 50, you can go to a massage parlor and return to where you are staying.
I have read some hotel reviews that indicate the metro train is noisy. They are electric trains, make very little noise.
Is there a brothel where after the session you can lounge with the ladies like a FKK in Germany? I perhaps would like to recharge and perhaps go for another round before I leave.
Showdown.If I remember correctly, there is a little bar there. I've seen locals come and drink with the girls but as soon as new clients enter, they all go to the room in the back and do their line ups. I've also seen couple of buddies just hang out with the girls before going and after with them at the bar.
Do I need to be in Poblado. I will be doing escorts and going to whatever massage parlors are near by anyway. What makes a hotel not chica friendly? The way the girl is dressed or no different girls every night. 35 is a good deal tho.You don't need to be near Poblado. I think many people recommend Poblado because of the safety factor. There are other safe areas, Laureles-Estadio and Envigado are two. Laureles-Estadio is probably better for you because it is closer to downtown and to where many of the chicas live.
Some of the hotels, and airbnb's, refuse to allow anyone into the room / apartment unless they are a registered guest. In those places, forget about taking your "date" to your room. Before making a reservation, always ask if they allow you to have guests and if there is a charge for guests. Some places that allow guests will request that they dress conservatively.
As others have replied, your best bet is probably an apartment. If you use common sense, and don't pick up street walkers, security is no more of an issue than any other place you rent. You can find airbnb apartments for around $40.
Surf Looker
11-27-17, 02:09
https://www.facebook.com/danielita.eusse.9
https://www.facebook.com/mari.pineda.18041
https://www.facebook.com/yamile.orozco.5
https://www.facebook.com/carolina.mora.393
https://www.facebook.com/alejandra.mazo.98
https://www.facebook.com/kitty.acevedo.790
https://www.facebook.com/lina.betancur.16
https://www.facebook.com/monicabetancur299
https://www.instagram.com/vane.299/
This is all true. It's also not unusual to share the bar with a uniformed policeman enjoying a soft drink and chatting with the lady administrator. Girls at all the places are hit and miss but Zandaly's rooms and linen are of better than average quality, compared to the lower end room / linen quality of a place like Aiffe.
If I remember correctly, there is a little bar there. I've seen locals come and drink with the girls but as soon as new clients enter, they all go to the room in the back and do their line ups. I've also seen couple of buddies just hang out with the girls before going and after with them at the bar.
DickSaylor
11-27-17, 04:54
https://www.facebook.com/danielita.eusse.9
https://www.facebook.com/mari.pineda.18041
https://www.facebook.com/yamile.orozco.5
https://www.facebook.com/carolina.mora.393
https://www.facebook.com/alejandra.mazo.98
https://www.facebook.com/kitty.acevedo.790
https://www.facebook.com/lina.betancur.16
https://www.facebook.com/monicabetancur299
https://www.instagram.com/vane.299/So will you list what they are accused of so we know to watch out for them? I noticed when I click on the links that some of them deactivated fb, others changed their names around. It is important we keep the guys on the board safe, especially some first timers which may find themselves in the company of potential trouble.
I'm very rarely bored while traveling. Even in airports I enjoy the watching and interacting with people from different backgrounds. Interesting people have varied interests. Beyond Guatape and Pablo Escobar's grave for example, there are several worthwhile museums in Medellin along with textile shops, restaurants and a long list of other things like the alliance Francaise where you can meet bright an inquisitive women. I think the most basic social skills can improve sessions with providers, but these are only my opinions.
That can be said with about 98% of the places we go to monger. We wouldn't be there if not for the legal P4P and willing participants. I mean, how many times are you going to visit Pablo Escobars grave or visit Gutape?
It's like the old saying about a woman: if it were not for her having a snatch, we would never talk to them!
I had not been to New Life in several months. The other day I stopped in and noticed the attached sign posted on all the entrance and exit doors and under glass on every single waiting room table. Apparently these guys have been causing even more trouble recently. The guy is identified as the gang's ringleader. The sign describes the same basic scam as what's been reported here. As I mentioned, I've seen these guys for years and I've seen warnings posted about them at places besides New Life. The New Life sign specifically mentions the gang using illegal age workers as an excuse to engage with customers. New Life also vehemently denies the claim.
There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.
They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.
There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.
If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi. When you do step outside, walk with a purpose. If you make a note of open businesses on your way in, head for the closest. If someone tries to stop you, say "no gracias" and keep moving towards the next business.
The only way this scam works is if they can keep you off balance. When you don't respond the way they expect, it puts them off balance. Every step you take away from their chosen spot, moves you farther away from danger. If weapons come out, give them what you have and get out of there. Otherwise just keep moving towards that next open business.
Best advice, keep your eyes open and be aware of your surroundings.
Surf Looker
11-28-17, 02:34
Putas prepagos, login into Facebook and see.
Many with gringo friends or who liked their pictures.
= mansion girls or ex mansion girls.
Putas prepagos many on Facebook and Instagram.
So will you list what they are accused of so we know to watch out for them? I noticed when I click on the links that some of them deactivated fb, others changed their names around. It is important we keep the guys on the board safe, especially some first timers which may find themselves in the company of potential trouble.
With that being said, to me, if you are not going to Brazil then Medellin is the best thing going on this side of the planet for mongering.Weeeell, I don't know about that. With all due respect Mr. E, and allowing that everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, Bogota should not be ignored when it comes to mongering. While they certainly have some High End (High Price) venues available for P4P, there are plenty of options which start as low as 25-40 k pesos with equally high quality girls. Bogota, in my opinion, edges out Medellin in two crucial categories: 1) Density of chicas in a small area (Santa Fe). 2) Variety of girls from all over Colombia and many Venezuelans.
That said, a big advantage of Medellin is the FaceBook scene and the openness of non-pro Paisas to short term hookups. With a little seducing.
How do you know if its a legit ID and not a Traci Lords type ID. I check IDs in Mexico and assume they are legit but what the hell do I know.Because a person of age has a colombian cedula. Cedula needs to look like her. I suggest you even take a photo of it and email it to yourself if you don't know this person.
It is very convenient to get money from the Bancolombia ATM's at the airport. When you exit baggage claim, stay inside the airport past the first exit doors onto the sidewalk. Less than 100 feet past those exit doors, there are two Bancolombia ATM's on the right side. Last week, I got 600,000 COP (about $200). I tried to get another 600,000, but it refused. Bancolombia does not charge any fees for using their ATM's.
I have never tried to get Uber from the airport. I imagine it is very hit and miss. There may be a driver hanging around if he has just dropped someone off. Just outside the ATM's, to the right, there should be taxis. Most of them are white, but there may be some yellow ones there. They should have some official markings to indicate they are official. I don't think the airport allows gypsy taxis in that area. You will go past people outside of baggage claim asking if you want a taxi. I have never went with any of those, but my guess is they are probably gypsy drivers. There is a set rate from the airport to downtown. I think the white taxis are 60,000 and the yellow are 65,000. Confirm before you leave the airport. Either will take you directly to your hotel. Uber or a taxi is your best bet late at night.
Most brothels are open on Sunday, but not as many hours as other days.White taxis are more then yellow. I think you have it reversed. Banco Colombia fee is hidden inside the exchange rate but your right it's not much. Uber late at night from the airport is really the only way to go unless you have a personal driver. A lot of taxi's like to try and up charge for late night at airport when the police are off shift and not watching anymore.
SavePros321
11-28-17, 04:17
So will you list what they are accused of so we know to watch out for them? I noticed when I click on the links that some of them deactivated fb, others changed their names around. It is important we keep the guys on the board safe, especially some first timers which may find themselves in the company of potential trouble.If you want safety, go to the mansion or a casa. Part of the fun of Medellin is that you can open almost any chick on fb without knowing if she is a "known" pro.
90% of the chicas I've banged down there since 2012 has come from me basically seeing them on fb, sending a friend request, chatting with them on messenger and asking if they would like to see me when I am in town. It's not 100% rate of success every time (some were looking for a relationship), but I would say 97% I close the deal.
You are not going to have the same unspoiled experience by always chasing after "proven pros" (the ones your buddy told you about and passed you her contact info, the ones you heard about here on a sex forum, etc.). I had gotten so good that I ended up fucking two sisters who I did not know were related until I realized they had the same last name and looked somewhat alike (one has the Pocahantas look and the other a blanca look). And when I asked one if the other was her sister, they didn't even know that the other had fucked me, hahaha.
I don't bother with the ones that have hundreds of gringos as friends and thousands more as followers. Most of those are the ones that have beta cucks fly them out to Cancun or to the US for weeks at a time. I like the ones that go to Uni or work and have lives outside of being full-time pros.
As for the danger part, not one incident with any chica since I've been going down there. Not even a verbal argument where she gets psycho and starts tossing shit all over the place. Nothing. And I bang at least 10-12 chicas per trip with multiple repeat sessions with my favorites. Just lock your shit up, keep chicos out of your mix (guys promising to find you chicas) and stay away from anything illegal by Colombian standards. The overwhelming problems your read about happens when chicos get involved, and the majority of the time they are involved is when you are looking to get into some illegal shit. You also run into problems inviting multiple chias over at once. It's one of the reasons I don't room with anyone else even if I am traveling with them. Last thing you need is for your wingman to be passed out drunk in the other room and his girl gets up and opens the main door to let her homies in while you are in the back room getting your dick wet with your chica.
Rant off, LOL.
UPDATE: one of the links to to Yami. I did fuck Yami, lol. She has a butterface (everything is banging about her but-her-face). Does have a bit of vag ordor that she is infamous for (maybe she got that worked out now?).
It is very convenient to get money from the Bancolombia ATM's at the airport. When you exit baggage claim, stay inside the airport past the first exit doors onto the sidewalk. Less than 100 feet past those exit doors, there are two Bancolombia ATM's on the right side. Last week, I got 600,000 COP (about $200). I tried to get another 600,000, but it refused. Bancolombia does not charge any fees for using their ATM's.If you want to get cash at the airport, there are a few different ATM's on the upstairs (departure) level. When you walk out of baggage past the double door where the families wait for their loved ones, keep going straight and take the stairs upstairs. There is a Citibank ATM, Banco Colombia, Banco de Bogota, and more if I remember.
YippieKayay
11-28-17, 09:42
I don't bother with the ones that have hundreds of gringos as friends and thousands more as followers. Most of those are the ones that have beta cucks fly them out to Cancun or to the US for weeks at a time. I like the ones that go to Uni or work and have lives outside of being full-time pros.
There's honestly so much available cheap pussy in Colombia, that in time, I too have learned to focus on one is folly. All it does is cost more $$$ and cause more drama.
UPDATE: one of the links to to Yami. I did fuck Yami, lol. She has a butterface (everything is banging about her but-her-face). Does have a bit of vag ordor that she is infamous for (maybe she got that worked out now?).Hahaha. I love how she has a boyfriend now in her fb photos. I guess some guys don't care if half the planet has banged their girlfriend.
EDIT: Hahaha. I think she's trying to act like she does bitcoin trading or some shit with her public photos. Hilarious.
Mr Enternational
11-28-17, 10:12
Hahaha. I love how she has a boyfriend now in her fb photos. I guess some guys don't care if half the planet has banged their girlfriend.You have to remember that not everyone meets a person on the same terms that you met them. You may meet a girl in a brothel and the next guy may meet her at church.
That can be said with about 98% of the places we go to monger. We wouldn't be there if not for the legal P4P and willing participants. I mean, how many times are you going to visit Pablo Escobars grave or visit Gutape?
It's like the old saying about a woman: if it were not for her having a snatch, we would never talk to them!Hey, when it's 10 degrees F where I live, being able to walk around in nice weather and eat and drink outdoors is a great thing. Having beautiful chicas available is just icing on the cake.
And while MDE may not offer alot of typical tourist activities, IMO any metro area with 4. 5 million people can't be that boring.
Because a person of age has a colombian cedula. Cedula needs to look like her. I suggest you even take a photo of it and email it to yourself if you don't know this person.What do you mean take a photo of it and email it to myself. I'm asking is do most [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girl use a good fake ID like Traci lords did. She was able to get a US passport with her fake papers. Are good fake ids rampant out there. Should I be worried.
Hahaha. I think she's trying to act like she does bitcoin trading or some shit with her public photos. Hilarious.Yeah I LOL'ed at that too, "Hooker / Day-trader!
Why are you outing "putas" on a board dedicated to prostitution? Isn't that, like, 'tarded?
https://www.facebook.com/danielita.eusse.9
https://www.facebook.com/mari.pineda.18041
https://www.facebook.com/yamile.orozco.5
https://www.facebook.com/carolina.mora.393
https://www.facebook.com/alejandra.mazo.98
https://www.facebook.com/kitty.acevedo.790
https://www.facebook.com/lina.betancur.16
https://www.facebook.com/monicabetancur299
https://www.instagram.com/vane.299/
SavePros321
11-29-17, 00:55
EDIT: Hahaha. I think she's trying to act like she does bitcoin trading or some shit with her public photos. Hilarious.What happened to her fragrance line / store?
Not that I really care, but I don't know why she didn't decide to dive deeper into the fitness world. When I first came across her in 2012 when she and her friend would stay in that room on the bottom floor of Mansion II, she was a skinny, nasty-looking coke head. She later cleaned up and got into fitness and developed a banging body. That was when she finally peaked my interests and I decided to take her for a spin.
But I guess when you are able to have some chump fund whatever you are into, then there's really nothing to lose from her perspective.
Surf Looker
11-29-17, 02:02
Hundreds of putas ok Facebook and IG from.
Medellin Bogota Cali. Enough for everyone.
Get their whatapp, easier stay in touch.
Find a few and see all their friends most.
Available.
Avg girls nothing special = casas, massage.
Above average = Fase Dos.
Models = instagram, and available if able to get in touch.
Facebook = mansion or ex mansion girls.
Mr Enternational
11-29-17, 02:18
What happened to her fragrance line / store?
Not that I really care, but I don't know why she didn't decide to dive deeper into the fitness world. When I first came across her in 2012 when she and her friend would stay in that room on the bottom floor of Mansion II, she was a skinny, nasty-looking coke head. She later cleaned up and got into fitness and developed a banging body. That was when she finally peaked my interests and I decided to take her for a spin.
But I guess when you are able to have some chump fund whatever you are into, then there's really nothing to lose from her perspective.I don't even know the chick but I can tell you that there is a reason most are hookers. For one, they lack the fortitude and perseverance to stick to anything besides hooking. For two, a fragrance line and fitness world takes business sense, time, and money to build up clientele, whereas hookers are addicted to fast money. Remember we are not talking about the greatest academic or commercial minds. We are talking about flat-backers. In a few years she will not be the head of some great company. She will be cleaning hotel rooms or selling fruit on the street. (Had to stick that last one in since yesterday I saw an old hooker that I used to fuck here in Thailand out pushing a food cart. She was trying to sell me a cup of coffee when she used to be up in the club trying to sell pussy!)
Surf Looker
11-29-17, 02:34
They post pictures of all their travels.
All over the world.
And they get to travel by earning tons.
Of money by selling weight loss pills.
LOL suuuuuuuuuure.
PREPAGOS.
What happened to her fragrance line / store?
Not that I really care, but I don't know why she didn't decide to dive deeper into the fitness world. When I first came across her in 2012 when she and her friend would stay in that room on the bottom floor of Mansion II, she was a skinny, nasty-looking coke head. She later cleaned up and got into fitness and developed a banging body. That was when she finally peaked my interests and I decided to take her for a spin.
But I guess when you are able to have some chump fund whatever you are into, then there's really nothing to lose from her perspective.How tastes differ! I also first met her in 2012 and in no time since then would I have paid a cent to bone her. Every visit I see guys lining up to do her. There must be 200k chicas more attractive than her in Medellin!
Is there something magic she does w her vagina?
SavePros321
11-29-17, 03:32
How tastes differ! I also first met her in 2012 and in no time since then would I have paid a cent to bone her. Every visit I see guys lining up to do her. There must be 200k chicas more attractive than her in Medellin!
Is there something magic she does w her vagina?Good thing for you that you can never miss what you never had, right? Hehehe 😉
I can only speak for myself, but I've always had a thing for fitness babes. Had she not made the transformation from scrawny coke head to the hardbody in the photos attached, I still would have never given her a second thought.
SavePros321
11-29-17, 04:08
In a few years she will not be the head of some great company. She will be cleaning hotel rooms or selling fruit on the street. (Had to stick that last one in since yesterday I saw an old hooker that I used to fuck here in Thailand out pushing a food cart. She was trying to sell me a cup of coffee when she used to be up in the club trying to sell pussy!)Sometimes they land on their feet. One gal everyone was crazy for here way back when named Wendy (never had her) had some guy marry her and buy her a store in a mall to sell clothes.
I like Gogo's story not to long ago about some gringo buying an ex-Sosua pro a beauty salon:
One guy was sending his girl in La Vega 500 usd a month and visiting every three months. His girl got bored and said she wanted to work in a salon doing nails and massage. He liked that she wanted to make honest money but never told him it was in Sosua. We are sitting at a club in Sosua and this newbie showed us pictures of a girl he banged in a massage parlor. It was our girl from La Vega. Someone told him and guess what he does? He buys her a salon in la Vega thinking that would stop her from tricking.
You can always count on a cuck to do clean up on isle six, LOL. Unless she is fat. Fat women are invisible.
Good thing for you that you can never miss what you never had, right? Hehehe 😉
I can only speak for myself, but I've always had a thing for fitness babes. Had she not made the transformation from scrawny coke head to the hardbody in the photos attached, I still would have never given her a second thought.Never been to the mansion but wouldn't kick her out of bed unless there was more room on the floor!
How tastes differ! I also first met her in 2012 and in no time since then would I have paid a cent to bone her. Every visit I see guys lining up to do her. There must be 200k chicas more attractive than her in Medellin!
Is there something magic she does w her vagina?I was one of those guys lining up to see her, and I think she was worth every penny I gave her. It turned out she was not that good in bed but she was cute in my book, and looked awfully sexy. At the very least, better looking and more presentable that many girls that were showing up at the mansion.
Her tits look fake. That is a deal breaker for me, especially when the cost north of 150 K.
Good thing for you that you can never miss what you never had, right? Hehehe 😉
I can only speak for myself, but I've always had a thing for fitness babes. Had she not made the transformation from scrawny coke head to the hardbody in the photos attached, I still would have never given her a second thought.
The Tall Man
11-29-17, 18:48
I was one of those guys lining up to see her, and I think she was worth every penny I gave her. It turned out she was not that good in bed but she was cute in my book, and looked awfully sexy. At the very least, better looking and more presentable that many girls that were showing up at the mansion.The Tall Man will spend the month of December in MDE and need to comment just how many of my past paisa girls both on whatsapp and facebook are contacting me, yes Christmas is here and they all need some spending money for gifts.
To each his own, this gal looks cute but not my type, believe it or not, sometimes I wish that I did not have such a taste for really good looking chicas, if I did not, and if my brain could accept lets say a 5 or 6 god the world would open up.
It is all in the hunt.
So I look forward to bringing some Christmas cheer to my paisa girls.
TTM.
SavePros321
11-29-17, 21:47
Her tits look fake. That is a deal breaker for meDidn't cross my mind when I sprayed them with my jizz, lmao
This afternoon I got to enjoy watching a botched robbery attempt. I would have enjoyed it more if I wasn't the target of the attempt, but at least it didn't cost me anything.
I was walking south along the metro line, about 2 blocks north of Hotel Nutibara, on my way to Parque Berrio metro station, roughly halfway between Prado and Berrio. Just before I got to a spot where the sidewalk becomes very narrow some guy ran past me to get in front of me. At that point there should have been nobody behind me and nobody in front of me, since the guy appeared to be in a big hurry.
Just as I realized the running guy was moving very slow in front of me I noticed 2 guys closing in behind me. The guy in front stopped suddenly and dropped a lighter. He knelt down and fumbled on the ground and the other guys closed in tight. When I felt the guy trying to grab my leg, I took a big step back, got free of him and yelled at him. The guys behind weren't expecting that and ended up in front of me, facing the wrong direction with everyone in the area looking at them. They moved a little further and tried again, but I was 3 steps behind at that point.
I gave them plenty of room and got where I couldn't be closed in. After conferring for a few seconds they moved back the way they came.
During the day pickpockets are the biggest problem there. Try not to let people get too close and keep aware of your surroundings. Be safe.
Surf Looker
11-30-17, 01:41
Katty Velez Best mansion or ex mansion girl.
Si agree??
Thanks, appreciate the post.
This afternoon I got to enjoy watching a botched robbery attempt. I would have enjoyed it more if I wasn't the target of the attempt, but at least it didn't cost me anything.
I was walking south along the metro line, about 2 blocks north of Hotel Nutibara, on my way to Parque Berrio metro station, roughly halfway between Prado and Berrio. Just before I got to a spot where the sidewalk becomes very narrow some guy ran past me to get in front of me. At that point there should have been nobody behind me and nobody in front of me, since the guy appeared to be in a big hurry.
Just as I realized the running guy was moving very slow in front of me I noticed 2 guys closing in behind me. The guy in front stopped suddenly and dropped a lighter. He knelt down and fumbled on the ground and the other guys closed in tight. When I felt the guy trying to grab my leg, I took a big step back, got free of him and yelled at him. The guys behind weren't expecting that and ended up in front of me, facing the wrong direction with everyone in the area looking at them. They moved a little further and tried again, but I was 3 steps behind at that point.
I gave them plenty of room and got where I couldn't be closed in. After conferring for a few seconds they moved back the way they came.
During the day pickpockets are the biggest problem there. Try not to let people get too close and keep aware of your surroundings. Be safe.
YourBoyRoc
11-30-17, 16:17
I will be returning to Medellin in a few weeks and unfortunately I have a late flight. My flight doesn't land until 11:40 PM. I plan on taking a cab to my hotel and I would like to head to Parque lleras for some action. How safe is it to travel late hrs? Is Parque lleras safe late hours?
Blue Touch
11-30-17, 16:36
It is a very bad area even for locals let alone gringos. Also, trannies there are very malicious and they use organized tactics to assault and rob the people. The area is an anarchy, no-law zone. All the self-claimed "street savvy" gringos I knew had troubles there eventually. Overconfidence, excessive risk-taking, and ignorance will be very costly in Centro.
This afternoon I got to enjoy watching a botched robbery attempt. I would have enjoyed it more if I wasn't the target of the attempt, but at least it didn't cost me anything.
I was walking south along the metro line, about 2 blocks north of Hotel Nutibara, on my way to Parque Berrio metro station, roughly halfway between Prado and Berrio. Just before I got to a spot where the sidewalk becomes very narrow some guy ran past me to get in front of me. At that point there should have been nobody behind me and nobody in front of me, since the guy appeared to be in a big hurry.
Just as I realized the running guy was moving very slow in front of me I noticed 2 guys closing in behind me. The guy in front stopped suddenly and dropped a lighter. He knelt down and fumbled on the ground and the other guys closed in tight..
So I'm planning to go Medellin late December, and staying Laureles area. I found several airbnb around $40 60 range and they are chica friendly.
Hotel Dorado La 70 is $43 per night with breakfast included. Have Anyone stayed this hotel? Is the hotel chica friendly without extra charge?
Her tits look fake. That is a deal breaker for me, especially when the cost north of 150 K.They are definitely man-made, no mistaking that fact if you see them uncovered. IMO, she had them made too large, but it is her body. I liked her natural tits, a little small but an almost perfect shape.
Some people have mentioned an odor she has down below. I have been with her a few times, and there was never an odor. Could she be like a skunk, and use that as a defensive mechanism! Every time I have seen her, she has been very nice. I go back in time with her to when she and Wendy were running mates.
Can we please start posting in the Med Chit-chat thread if it is not trip report related?
Iguana Six
11-30-17, 20:55
Katty Velez Best mansion or ex mansion girl.
Si agree??Is she back in play? She was active a few years ago, then completely dropped out of the scene, closing down her FB page and not answering messages. It may have to do with not getting approved for a tourist visa to the USA.
C Jack Sparrow
11-30-17, 21:21
Ana Maria was an cute good looking semi-prepago from social level ( 3 out of 6, 6 being the upper class).
She was already before known to be awesome, and it was about when she was going for the big $$$ to be awesome $$money / 9,9 according to her halfsister, also famous on ISG by / via her 100% perfectioned toned body, Yerladin) and compliant // complaciente / with her magical doctor after becoming a +10, she filed for divorce. Now she is making a a model career on YOUTUBE. Of course, it's just to get the attention of, what we extranjeros calls " narcos", whom invite 11 girls to a Finca de Luxe and party for a long weekend, a lot of drugs and alcohol etc. Ana-maria how much does she makes? I have friends, girlfrins paisas, but it's a lot of prestige how much each girl is payed, so they aviod the subject. But 1-2 millions COP a day since the more a narco pays and the more exclusive he and the prepago are, the higher prestige in the narco-circle.
2 Million each weeakend + some other meetings makes +10 million a months.
That's super.
However, the Mexicans want these girls and you can't say NO.
She will make much much more at a Hacienda in a remote place in MX. But for a limited time. And during 1-5 years she is a slave. A lot of girl gets executed. For minor offensives, like just saying "fuck you", Mexican has a violent since 1000 years or more, and they are still respectless of human life. This according to History and a famous a internationally rewarded writer.
Medellin is harsh, but it's here the very very pretty girls lifes, born and moved to the Colombian sex-capital, if you excuse me for Cartagena and the Clocktower, Cafe del Mar and the findings of member Camaro or Camaro128, you'll find him and this breakthrough Cartagena reports. From 2013/15.
I want to know; have you guys XXX Ana-maria Cordoba or her halfsister yeraldin.
I had two super long sessions with yeraldin. Unfogettabbles. I had to erase the photos in my laptop since acafetera was coming to visit me, she lives in Spain..., but, sorry, without a face here is yeraldin. Her face is a +8-+9.
Surf Looker
12-01-17, 01:29
Is she back in play? She was active a few years ago, then completely dropped out of the scene, closing down her FB page and not answering messages. It may have to do with not getting approved for a tourist visa to the USA.Hi putas always available. Just timing depend. Break up with boyfriend or need money. Many now going away from facebook and more instagram.
https://www.facebook.com/marcela.velez.7967
Katty Velez Best mansion or ex mansion girl.
Si agree??Thanks for posting Instagram girls! I've made good contacts with a few. Will report if I session with any! Keep 'them coming.
I will be returning to Medellin in a few weeks and unfortunately I have a late flight. My flight doesn't land until 11:40 PM. I plan on taking a cab to my hotel and I would like to head to Parque lleras for some action. How safe is it to travel late hrs? Is Parque lleras safe late hours?The airport road is safe, however is recommended to travel during day time. Pre-book a pick up with your hotel. They will gladly arrange for it. The standard rate is 70 K including tolls of 10 K each way, everything up is a premium for your safety. They may also send an Uber driver or someone they can trust and work with daily. Park is very safe on the perimeter, and safer on weekends. Take a cab to the park and back late night.
C Jack Sparrow
12-01-17, 04:14
Little half sister Yeraldin https://www.photoprepagos.com/una-escort-preciosa-completa-dispuesta-a-todo-para-que-la-pases-bien-y-la-recuerdes-por-siempre-id-2ypj2.
Hermana mayor Ana-Maria Cordoba, the (former) model star https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX0HIgpCuLw.
They may also send an Uber driver or someone they can trust and work with daily.Yeah, or they may send some random asshole.
Any know if Marcela Rios is a TS? I'd avoid her and all her friends if so. No cleavage pics and her body shape is sketchy. Pretty face though.
https://www.facebook.com/marce.riox
There's honestly so much available cheap pussy in Colombia, that in time, I too have learned to focus on one is folly. All it does is cost more $$$ and cause more drama.
Hahaha. I love how she has a boyfriend now in her fb photos. I guess some guys don't care if half the planet has banged their girlfriend.
EDIT: Hahaha. I think she's trying to act like she does bitcoin trading or some shit with her public photos. Hilarious.I remember about 3 years ago she let me visit the islands and CIP. And yes very butter face!
Hello everyone,
I am going to Colombia for the first time in January 2018. I've already booked my flight but have not booked anywhere to stay yet. I am going solo and will be in Bogota, Medellin, and Cartagena. I can't decide if I should get a hotel room or a place on Airbnb. Which would be more chica friendly? Any particular areas in the 3 cities that are better to stay at? I prefer to stay in areas that are safe and near nightlife. I'm looking for recommendations.
I have been to the Del Rey in San Jose, CR many times, and also the Marriott in Panama City. Any places like that in Colombia?
Thanks in advance and happy mongering.No there is no open pick up places like that at all in Medellin. Most of the contacts are made online.
Conveniently located close to the metro station, Estadio. But breakfast is rather Spartan, limited, limited choices. Not bad for the price, though.
So I'm planning to go Medellin late December, and staying Laureles area. I found several airbnb around $40 60 range and they are chica friendly.
Hotel Dorado La 70 is $43 per night with breakfast included. Have Anyone stayed this hotel? Is the hotel chica friendly without extra charge?
The Tall Man
12-01-17, 17:08
There's honestly so much available cheap pussy in Colombia, that in time, I too have learned to focus on one is folly. All it does is cost more $$$ and cause more drama.
God this is a truism statement, we all know that Paisa girls are all drama but I am dealing with this one girl in MDE that I met once back in September and she hounds me daily with drama. I don't want to block her from whatsapp as she is very pretty 18 yo who have a fresh body and a very pretty look and when I bone her she looks and gazes so deep into my eyes that I have a connection at that time that I seldom experience, but is all the drama worth it? I will let you know next week.
TTM.
Black Page
12-01-17, 17:24
Yeah, or they may send some random asshole.LOL yes. I never understand why people doesn't simply take a regular taxi from airport.
LOL yes. I never understand why people doesn't simply take a regular taxi from airport.They would rather pay 70 or 75 k instead of the 65 k posted rate.
LOL yes. I never understand why people doesn't simply take a regular taxi from airport.Heck, I don't understand why they don't take the $3 bus, then hop a cab from town, on that narrow windy road from the airport I feel safer in the bus.
They would rather pay 70 or 75 k instead of the 65 k posted rate.I think some people just feel comfortable having an arranged ride waiting for them at the airport.
I've never heard of MDE airport taxis being a threat. As Wolf pointed out, the biggest danger might be that taxi driver veers off that winding mountain road. For that reason, taking the bus is probably the safest option.
Yeah, or they may send some random asshole.Breaks service guys likely make a good living. The only issue I noticed was speeding. They race like madmen. Anyway, here is the official quote from travel. Gc. Ca on Medellin: 'Try to arrive at Medellíand's José María seeórdova International Airport during the day to avoid the road from the airport to the city after dark'. As for others advising on taking a bus, I have low tolerance for this BS.
'The only issue I noticed was speeding. They race like madmen.' Right, and that is how you can get killed before you even get to enjoy your destination, and it is not enjoyable even if you do not get killed.
So what exactly is 'BS' about taking a perfectly good bus? I have taken the bus to or from airports in dozens of cities, maybe even 50, including Medellín, and definitely think it is safer crash-wise than a cab or similar private car. It could also be safer from a robbery standpoint, although that would depend on where it dropped you off. Although, a truly civilized country would have a train station in the airport, such as Frankfurt, Barcelona, Madrid, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Toronto, etc.
And, of course, almost all US airports have train stations in them as well. Not.
MedellinGringo
12-02-17, 06:58
Any know if Marcela Rios is a TS? I'd avoid her and all her friends if so. No cleavage pics and her body shape is sketchy. Pretty face though.
https://www.facebook.com/marce.rioxLOL.
I have never been with her but have seen her at the mansion.
If I didn't have better things to do at the tmie I would have taken her for a spin.
Face to face she is attractive enough.
I'm sure if she was a TS girl someone would have complained at the Mansion. LOL.
Besides from the looks of her facebook page she has children.
This mansion chick is a slightly better looking and is capable of giving an extremely good GFE.
300k TLN and no pop limit....I have banged her up to four times in an night. And always willing to please.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003857383032
YippieKayay
12-02-17, 09:26
God this is a truism statement, we all know that Paisa girls are all drama but I am dealing with this one girl in MDE that I met once back in September and she hounds me daily with drama. I don't want to block her from whatsapp as she is very pretty 18 yo who have a fresh body and a very pretty look and when I bone her she looks and gazes so deep into my eyes that I have a connection at that time that I seldom experience, but is all the drama worth it? I will let you know next week.
TTM.You can mute in Whatsapp and even set it to only display the notification but not make a sound. For chicas who are chatter boxes I just completely mute them then check just once a day when I feel like having a chat.
LOL.
I have never been with her but have seen her at the mansion.Thanks for the info. I did see the "children" pic, but there was no caption so I wasn't sure if it was some sister's kids or whatever.
Anyways after being mislead by TS's in SE Asia a couple times I'm paranoid about these things LOL.
DickSaylor
12-02-17, 11:31
I will be returning to Medellin in a few weeks and unfortunately I have a late flight. My flight doesn't land until 11:40 PM. I plan on taking a cab to my hotel and I would like to head to Parque lleras for some action. How safe is it to travel late hrs? Is Parque lleras safe late hours?Get your hotel to send a trusted driver, or take a marked taxi. You can take pics of the license plate and cab # on the side of the door, and pretend your are texting it to someone. I've seen some of the girls do that, as they said women there get raped by cabbies all the time. They do that to greatly reduce their risk of the taxi guy plotting something. I've been there many times, have not had much trouble. Parque Llleras is the "Safest" of the zones, but I wouldn't consider any big city "SAFE" anywhere in the world. Steer clear of "cheap casas" in places like El Centro, which is a district you DO NOT want to be in unless you speak fluent Spanish and look like Danny Trejo. Even then, I'd advise you to bring a few wing men, only go during the day, and still keep your head on a swivel.
Your biggest risk in Medellin is crossing the street on foot and getting hit by a cab. Unlike the United States, if you step out in front of car, even on accident, the car has the right of way, not a person. So in other words, if there is a crosswalk, do not assume cars will stop for you or even bother braking. They won't. Some will even speed up, and almost all buses I've seen have sped up. Not trying to scare you, but they don't give a rats behind if you are in the road or not, some will not even bother stopping. SO, be careful crossing there, and do not assume a car will stop if you walk in front of it, even if it is on a crosswalk.
The second biggest risk is getting drugged. Do not leave your drink unattended, even if your new "Bby" or "girlfriend" professes her undying love for you. If you go [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and leave your beer in the living room, beer is dumped, no exceptions. These girls here are notorious for drugging / robbing gringos when given the chance.
You should be staying in a "guest friendly" apartment in the El Poblado district, which Parque Lleras is ground zero in. If you don't know any Spanish, do your best to learn some phrases, and learn their monetary system so you can instantly convert. You have a LOT of research on this board before your trip, my friend.
Hasideas Tao
12-02-17, 12:58
I'm very rarely bored while traveling. Even in airports I enjoy the watching and interacting with people from different backgrounds. Interesting people have varied interests. Beyond Guatape and Pablo Escobar's grave for example, there are several worthwhile museums in Medellin along with textile shops, restaurants and a long list of other things like the alliance Francaise where you can meet bright an inquisitive women. I think the most basic social skills can improve sessions with providers, but these are only my opinions.What is your M. O. With this place? Where is it?
Breaks service guys likely make a good living. The only issue I noticed was speeding. They race like madmen. Anyway, here is the official quote from travel. Gc. Ca on Medellin: 'Try to arrive at Medelland's Jos Mara seerdova International Airport during the day to avoid the road from the airport to the city after dark'. As for others advising on taking a bus, I have low tolerance for this BS.For the money that is saved by taking the bus would get you a real nice adventure in a casa. Let's face it not all guys have money to burn. Also I have had a few nice conversations on that bus with some interesting females.
The Tall Man
12-02-17, 17:37
LOL.
I have never been with her but have seen her at the mansion.
If I didn't have better things to do at the tmie I would have taken her for a spin.
Face to face she is attractive enough.
I'm sure if she was a TS girl someone would have complained at the Mansion. LOL.
Besides from the looks of her facebook page she has children.
This mansion chick is a slightly better looking and is capable of giving an extremely good GFE.
300k TLN and no pop limit....I have banged her up to four times in an night. And always willing to please.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003857383032This talk about TS women that we see in medellin, some TS that I have seen in person, no they are not my thing, can fool you into believing they are a beautiful looking woman, until of course on closer inspection.
But really I have met a few out in the clubs and on the streets of poblado that I had to take a second look at.
TTM.
Get your hotel to send a trusted driver, or take a marked taxi. You can take pics of the license plate and cab # on the side of the door, and pretend your are texting it to someone. I've seen some of the girls do that, as they said women there get raped by cabbies all the time. They do that to greatly reduce their risk of the taxi guy plotting something. I've been there many times, have not had much trouble. Parque Llleras is the "Safest" of the zones, but I wouldn't consider any big city "SAFE" anywhere in the world. Steer clear of "cheap casas" in places like El Centro, which is a district you DO NOT want to be in unless you speak fluent Spanish and look like Danny Trejo. Even then, I'd advise you to bring a few wing men, only go during the day, and still keep your head on a swivel.
Your biggest risk in Medellin is crossing the street on foot and getting hit by a cab. Unlike the United States, if you step out in front of car, even on accident, the car has the right of way, not a person. So in other words, if there is a crosswalk, do not assume cars will stop for you or even bother braking. They won't. Some will even speed up, and almost all buses I've seen have sped up. Not trying to scare you, but they don't give a rats behind if you are in the road or not, some will not even bother stopping. SO, be careful crossing there, and do not assume a car will stop if you walk in front of it, even if it is on a crosswalk..Someone is feeding you a lot of exaggerated and outdated information, and you're doing everyone a disservice by passing it on.
The white taxis at the airport are safe, at least when it comes to not [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) or robbing gringo travelers. The driving skills leave a lot to be desired. Depending on your hotel, their "trusted driver" is some friend of whoever receives your message, who knows he can overcharge you.
I walk between Parque Lleras and Parque Poblado at least 4 nights a week, midnight or later, I walk the same area, plus much more of Poblado at least 3 times a week. I've walked from Lleras to almost Envigado at 3 am. With a few exceptions, where nobody has any reason to go, Poblado is safe.
"Keeping your head on a swivel" is one of the quickest ways to get targeted for robbery. You may as well tattoo "tengo mucho dinero" on your forehead. It's a sign of nervousness. Instead, walk natural, with purpose. Look to the sides naturally and rely on peripheral vision. Stop at street vendors or in shops to see if someone is following you. You may still get targeted, but you're a lot less noticeable.
I don't speak fluent Spanish and don't look like Danny Trejo, but somehow I've survived multiple trips to El Centro, usually without a wingman. Avoid the cheap casas? That's why most people come here. It's simple. Figure out where you want to go, call a taxi, give the driver the address. Get out of the taxi, go inside, have your fun. When you're ready to leave, call a taxi.
I don't recommend walking alone in El Centro at night, but there are plenty of areas where, unless you're being stupid, you'll have no problems.
There have probably only been about a dozen confirmed cases of people being drugged in Colombia, but it's become the favorite urban legend. The motivation factor isn't there, especially if the girl is already in your apartment. She already knows she's getting paid. Why risk drugging you just to find out your money is locked in the safe? Why risk completely losing her access to overpaying gringos for a few extra 100 k? If you're hanging out in some of the barrios, drinking in the bars where no gringo has gone before, you might be drugged, but more likely someone will just use a knife to convince you to hand over your money and phone, and maybe to go to an ATM.
You were right about one thing, be careful crossing the street. Also, watch where you're walking. There are plenty of places where you can easily break an ankle.
If you don't know any Spanish, start learning. Learn numbers a few basic verbs, nouns and adjectives. It won't help much, because you still won't understand a word people say, but you will be able to get by. The more Spanish you learn, the better your experience will be.
Mr Enternational
12-02-17, 18:33
You guys had better get out of Poblado and head to Centro where it is safe!
https://www.minuto30.com/ciudadano-estadounidense-fue-asesinado-con-arma-blanca-en-el-poblado/529964/
You guys had better get out of Poblado and head to Centro where it is safe!
https://www.minuto30.com/ciudadano-estadounidense-fue-asesinado-con-arma-blanca-en-el-poblado/529964/Exactly! LOL The period I posted about a few pages back had 2 foreigners killed in El Poblado, 2 in Laurales and zero in Centro. LOL.
The reason I don't mind Centro so much late at night is it is only a block and a half to my 3 strip clubs from my hotel, plus 2 Casa's (Yakuza more like 50 ft), 24 HR indoorATM, 24 HR food. Not much exposure.
I see this guy, 41-year-old man identified as Johnny Noel Simancas Jr was killed with a knife, time to up your game in unarmed combat against a opponent or two armed with knives. Giving them what they want won't always keep you from getting stabbed but worth a try. I suggest a full size umbrella with a sharpened point as a possible weapon you can carry anywhere without trouble.
Conveniently located close to the metro station, Estadio. But breakfast is rather Spartan, limited, limited choices. Not bad for the price, though.I checked that hotel Dorado and came up with 75 a night for March. Where you getting 43?
What does the mansion charge for a driver from the airport vs taking a taxi from the airport.
JoeFlaxman
12-03-17, 02:34
You guys had better get out of Poblado and head to Centro where it is safe!
https://www.minuto30.com/ciudadano-estadounidense-fue-asesinado-con-arma-blanca-en-el-poblado/529964/I totally agree. Centro Medellin is totally safe during the day and up to 11 pm at night. Anyone who says it is dangerous needs to tell their own personnel story and stop spreading rumors.
Put it in writing. I was out near the Vera Cruz Church and Parque Botero every evening for 7 days up to 11 pm and never had any problems. I even went across the street from Parque Botero twice at 10 pm and walked by all the bars in the Zona Rosa. It was kind of seedy but no one bothered me. Also there were no beggars or touts around this part of town at night either unlike Ermita in Manila. Folks don't believe what others are writing. Just go there and see for yourself. I even walked from Parque Berrio to the San Antonio metro station one night at 11 pm and no one bothered me.
Around $75 k.
A taxi charges somewhat less, I think.
I like the microbus or minivan, that carries like 12 people. It's local flavor, but it takes you to El Centro. I don't like piling out of a minivan en El Centro with luggage, but then I only take a carry-on. So getting out at El Centro, one could take the subway to the Poblado station, then take a taxi, or just take a taxi from El Centro, in the latter case you are spending more.
It may be possible to get the minivan to let you out closer to El Poblado, but I have not been successful.
What does the mansion charge for a driver from the airport vs taking a taxi from the airport.
That is some Willie Sutton style robbery. He's the guy who is famous for answering the question of "why do you rob banks" with "because that's where the money is". Why do criminals target Poblado? Because that's where the money is.
Exactly! LOL The period I posted about a few pages back had 2 foreigners killed in El Poblado, 2 in Laurales and zero in Centro. LOL.
The reason I don't mind Centro so much late at night is it is only a block and a half to my 3 strip clubs from my hotel, plus 2 Casa's (Yakuza more like 50 ft), 24 HR indoorATM, 24 HR food. Not much exposure.
I see this guy, 41-year-old man identified as Johnny Noel Simancas Jr was killed with a knife, time to up your game in unarmed combat against a opponent or two armed with knives. Giving them what they want won't always keep you from getting stabbed but worth a try. I suggest a full size umbrella with a sharpened point as a possible weapon you can carry anywhere without trouble.
For the money that is saved by taking the bus would get you a real nice adventure in a casa. Let's face it not all guys have money to burn. Also I have had a few nice conversations on that bus with some interesting females.Anyone who can't spend $25 on an airport transfer should keep their broke ass at home. In Colombia in particular taking a public transportation is not a good proposition. In many cases taxis directly are cheaper than a combination of a metro or Transmileneo plus a short taxi ride. You can do it for experience, do a metrocable etc. But why anyone with luggage and valuables will opt for a bus on a way from an airport is beyond any comprehension. Each country is different, and I do use public transportation in other countries, when it is both convenient and economical, that is when it makes sense. And it does not make sense in this case.
I suspect the American may have been up to some shady business, drugs and such. I don't have any facts to support that. It is a hunch that makes the pieces fit together.
You guys had better get out of Poblado and head to Centro where it is safe!
https://www.minuto30.com/ciudadano-estadounidense-fue-asesinado-con-arma-blanca-en-el-poblado/529964/
Last time I had an early flight out of Meddy at about 8 am. It has never crossed my mind to walk myself at dawn with luggage to Poblado metro station, then take a metro to the city centre, then take a public van to the airport if it even were available so early, and then to fear it may stuck somewhere in traffic for whatever reason and I would miss my flight. So, that's why I call busing to and from airport a BS, the same sort of advice given earlier in the thread to protect oneself in the city centre with 'a full size umbrella with a sharpened point as a possible weapon you can carry anywhere without trouble'
Mr Enternational
12-03-17, 03:59
Anyone who can't spend $25 on an airport transfer should keep their broke ass at home. In Colombia in particular taking a public transportation is not a good proposition. In many cases taxis directly are cheaper than a combination of a metro or Transmileneo plus a short taxi ride. You can do it for experience, do a metrocable etc. But why anyone with luggage and valuables will opt for a bus on a way from an airport is beyond any comprehension. Each country is different, and I do use public transportation in other countries, when it is both convenient and economical, that is when it makes sense. And it does not make sense in this case.It is not that someone can't do something sir, but obviously you have a different idea of when something is convenient and economical than other people do since there are millions of people that take public transportation with their luggage and valuables from countless airports all over the world everyday. I have never taken a taxi from and to the airport in Medellin (Bogota, Cali, Cartagena, Barranquilla, and Monteria I have), because I am one of those that see the bus as convenient and economical.
Why would I spend $25 for a taxi that is going to get me somewhere in relatively the same amount of time with just as much comfort as the $3 bus? Likewise I could say that anyone that can not pay $300 short time for a prepago should keep their broke ass home. Or anybody who is not buying a first class ticket should keep their broke ass home. Or anyone that prefers mongering at the 30k casas should keep their broke ass home. But then too I stay in $11 hotels downtown and not in $75 apartments in Poblado. Maybe I should be the one keeping my broke ass home.
But why anyone with luggage and valuables will opt for a bus on a way from an airport is beyond any comprehension. Why?
They put the luggage in a rear compartment and put a numbered tag on it, you get a matching tag, you hand it to the driver when you get off and he gets your bag.
You are riding with Colombians who just flew in on a jet, not exactly the super poor. And the final stop is 75 ft from my hotel.
The automotive death rate in Colombia is about double the US one per 100,000 at 17 Vs 9 for the US. If I am going to get in a head-on accident coming down that windy mountain road I'd rather not be in this:
I don't think it's especially dangerous to take the airport bus to Centro of San Diego and then grab a taxi. It's pretty inconvenient but you do save $15 to $20. There are plenty of waiting taxis and the bus company keeps troublemakers away. The buses will also drop you at a couple of stops along the way. Backpackers are known to jump off at the stop closer to Poblado for a cheaper taxi ride to their hostels.
Anyone who can't spend $25 on an airport transfer should keep their broke ass at home. In Colombia in particular taking a public transportation is not a good proposition. In many cases taxis directly are cheaper than a combination of a metro or Transmileneo plus a short taxi ride. You can do it for experience, do a metrocable etc. But why anyone with luggage and valuables will opt for a bus on a way from an airport is beyond any comprehension. Each country is different, and I do use public transportation in other countries, when it is both convenient and economical, that is when it makes sense. And it does not make sense in this case.
So, that's why I call busing to and from airport a BS, the same sort of advice given earlier in the thread to protect oneself in the city centre with 'a full size umbrellaIf after you give over your $ to a knife wielding opponent he decides to stab you to death anyway, I'd prefer a 3 ft umbrella with a steel tip over hand-to-knife combat. Keeping the blade at distance is paramount as long as you can, till something changes in the equation (people / cops showing up, he gives up, etc) and you can break and run. You might still get stabbed to death but it's a slightly better chance of surviving. This assumes you are in shape with good reflex's and have some hand-to-hand training.
ColombiaLover
12-03-17, 04:53
If you want the Whatsapp of my taxi driver (he drives a white taxi. The airport taxi). He or his dad will pick you up. 65 K from airport to Poblado. 50 K from Poblado back to airport. Very reliable. Nice family.
The airport road is safe, however is recommended to travel during day time. Pre-book a pick up with your hotel. They will gladly arrange for it. The standard rate is 70 K including tolls of 10 K each way, everything up is a premium for your safety. They may also send an Uber driver or someone they can trust and work with daily. Park is very safe on the perimeter, and safer on weekends. Take a cab to the park and back late night.
Chicaspunto.com and the place a floor above it are just around the corner from your favorite place.
Exactly! LOL The period I posted about a few pages back had 2 foreigners killed in El Poblado, 2 in Laurales and zero in Centro. LOL.
The reason I don't mind Centro so much late at night is it is only a block and a half to my 3 strip clubs from my hotel, plus 2 Casa's (Yakuza more like 50 ft), 24 HR indoorATM, 24 HR food. Not much exposure.
I see this guy, 41-year-old man identified as Johnny Noel Simancas Jr was killed with a knife, time to up your game in unarmed combat against a opponent or two armed with knives. Giving them what they want won't always keep you from getting stabbed but worth a try. I suggest a full size umbrella with a sharpened point as a possible weapon you can carry anywhere without trouble.
Iguana Six
12-03-17, 07:17
I'm planning a trip to MDE. My passport is valid, but will expire shortly after my planned arrival and departure. I know that some countries have requirements that your passport be valid for a certain time period beyond your entry date. Does anyone know what it is for Colombia?
https://noticias.caracoltv.com/medellin/ciudadano-extranjero-fue-encontrado-muerto-al-interior-de-un-apartamento-en-el-poblado
Last time I had an early flight out of Meddy at about 8 am. It has never crossed my mind to walk myself at dawn with luggage to Poblado metro station, then take a metro to the city centre, then take a public van to the airport if it even were available so early, and then to fear it may stuck somewhere in traffic for whatever reason and I would miss my flight.If someone is staying anywhere near Parque Lleras, they can take a taxi to the bus stop just outside the San Diego mall. It cost about 8,000. They can then take the airport bus to the airport for 9,500. The airport bus starts running very early, I think at 4:30 am.
Probably all of us who visit Medellin can afford to pay a taxi to take us to the airport, but why do that? I am not in the habit of paying four times more than I have to for anything.
Last time I had an early flight out of Meddy at about 8 am. It has never crossed my mind to walk myself at dawn with luggage to Poblado metro station, then take a metro to the city centre, then take a public van to the airport if it even were available so early, and then to fear it may stuck somewhere in traffic for whatever reason and I would miss my flight. So, that's why I call busing to and from airport a BS, the same sort of advice given earlier in the thread to protect oneself in the city centre with 'a full size umbrella with a sharpened point as a possible weapon you can carry anywhere without trouble'This is simply a YMMV situation. I occasionally take a 2 or 3 day trip to Bogota and travel with just a carry on. I will take a taxi to the airport, because I have more control over my arrival time. In Bogota, I'll walk out hop on the free bus to the El Dorado Transmilenio portal, take the Transmilenio and then walk 5 to 10 minutes to my hotel, if I'm arriving during daylight. Costs me 2000 pesos and it's the same amount of time as a taxi.
Returning, I'll take the Transmilenio back to the airport, and then hop the bus to San Diego Mall, walk through the mall hop on the bus which drops me within a 3 minute walk of my apartment. I save a bit over 100 k and it takes the same amount of time.
Now if I'm traveling with more luggage I'll take the taxi.
I just did a check for this month and the price is only $35, but remember, the prices fluctuate. Who are you checking with? They are definitely trying to overcharge you.
I checked that hotel Dorado and came up with 75 a night for March. Where you getting 43?
Big Boss Man
12-03-17, 15:08
Mariana.
This place is a casa that I found through an advertisement. 150000 pesos for 1 hour.
My experience was not good. She was a "don't touch my breasts type" girl so I cut off the session after 15 minutes and went to another casa. I don't know the general phone number to see the lineup. I think 4 or 5 chicas work here. Facility was nice. I think I found her on photosprepagos.
Picture is real but she has tattoos. You can see her image on Whatsapp. Unable to copy image.
Carrera 80 b#32 ee37.
Big Boss Man
12-03-17, 15:21
This casa is the cleanest best facility of anywhere I went.
If you are staying in Poblado this is located within easy walking distance.
Unfortunately, these chicas are not the best in bed. They seem kind of inexperienced. Valentina gave an excellent strong massage if you are interested in that service. It might be worth checking out occasionally to see if the lineup improves.
150000 pesos per hour.
Whatsapp +57 xxxx571842.
Address: Calle 14.
Chicaspunto.com and the place a floor above it are just around the corner from your favorite place.Yep have done a Chicopunto run, but I kinda like the laid back party atmosphere they get at Yakuza, dudes on couches drinking beers with the girls. I wander in and out of there several times a day usually to see who's working. And 45 k to my hotel is hard to be for the occasional cutie they have working.
I totally agree. Centro Medellin is totally safe during the day and up to 11 pm at night. Anyone who says it is dangerous needs to tell their own personnel story and stop spreading rumors.
Put it in writing. I was out near the Vera Cruz Church and Parque Botero every evening for 7 days up to 11 pm and never had any problems. I even went across the street from Parque Botero twice at 10 pm and walked by all the bars in the Zona Rosa. It was kind of seedy but no one bothered me. Also there were no beggars or touts around this part of town at night either unlike Ermita in Manila. Folks don't believe what others are writing. Just go there and see for yourself. I even walked from Parque Berrio to the San Antonio metro station one night at 11 pm and no one bothered me.There ya go. Totally safe. Thanks for the update.
By the way, What happens after 11 pm?
YippieKayay
12-03-17, 17:17
I'm planning a trip to MDE. My passport is valid, but will expire shortly after my planned arrival and departure. I know that some countries have requirements that your passport be valid for a certain time period beyond your entry date. Does anyone know what it is for Colombia?Pretty sure it has to be valid for duration of stay. I'd get a new one ASAP.
Blue Touch
12-03-17, 17:36
How long have you known El Centro?
I totally agree. Centro Medellin is totally safe during the day and up to 11 pm at night. Anyone who says it is dangerous needs to tell their own personnel story and stop spreading rumors.
Put it in writing. I was out near the Vera Cruz Church and Parque Botero every evening for 7 days up to 11 pm and never had any problems. I even went across the street from Parque Botero twice at 10 pm and walked by all the bars in the Zona Rosa. It was kind of seedy but no one bothered me. Also there were no beggars or touts around this part of town at night either unlike Ermita in Manila. Folks don't believe what others are writing. Just go there and see for yourself. I even walked from Parque Berrio to the San Antonio metro station one night at 11 pm and no one bothered me.
You typically need to have at least six months of validity to be admitted to most countries or to get a visa. You will be allowed to leave as long as you have at least 24 hours validity. The USA will admit you with at least 24 hours validity left on the passport. I agree with the advice to renew it before you go.
Pretty sure it has to be valid for duration of stay. I'd get a new one ASAP.
I totally agree. Centro Medellin is totally safe during the day and up to 11 pm at night. Anyone who says it is dangerous needs to tell their own personnel story and stop spreading rumors.
Put it in writing. I was out near the Vera Cruz Church and Parque Botero every evening for 7 days up to 11 pm and never had any problems. I even went across the street from Parque Botero twice at 10 pm and walked by all the bars in the Zona Rosa. It was kind of seedy but no one bothered me. Also there were no beggars or touts around this part of town at night either unlike Ermita in Manila. Folks don't believe what others are writing. Just go there and see for yourself. I even walked from Parque Berrio to the San Antonio metro station one night at 11 pm and no one bothered me.What, you work for the Colombian Tourist Board or what? LOL.
I have stayed in Centro almost 3 weeks and walked everywhere and at no point did I think it was safe, just less unsafe sometimes. And I have been out solo on foot till 2 am. Personal anecdotes are a poor way to judge safety. Yes you are fine in Centro till you aren't. Then bad things might happen.
"Crime Statistics by Neighborhood in Medellin.
Last year the El Colombiano newspaper had an article the broke out reported crime statistics by comuna in Medellin.
Robberies / thefts of people reported in Medellin between January 1 and May 14,2016, were 13 percent less than the same period in the previous year. 49 percent of these robberies / thefts during the period were in El Centro. The second most common comuna for a robbery was Laureles followed by El Poblado.
If you normalize these counts by population El Poblado and Laureles have a similar population of about 125,000 while El Centro has a lower population of about 85,000 but it also has many visitors during the day doing shopping.
The most common items stolen were cell phones, followed by money and clothes and jewelry.
In El Poblado, robberies / thefts totaled 220 during the reporting period, which was up 15% compared to the same period in 2015. This may be due to thieves targeting the wealthy area of Medellin and tourists in the area.
La Candelaria (El Centro) remains the most dangerous part of Medellin with the highest counts of robberies / thefts, motorcycle thefts, homicides and sexual offences. That is why you will see an increased police presence in El Centro.
In terms of homicides, the highest counts during the period between January 1 and May 14, 2016 were found in La Candelaria with 28, Robledo with 21 and Castilla with 19. During this reporting period only 2 of the 171 homicides in Medellin were in El Poblado."
https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/
There is a bit of new information in this video report. It happened on calle 10 near Parque Lleras in what appears to be a pretty modest apartment. The reporters said the victim was with a girl of illegal age, whose boyfriend came to the apartment. The boyfriend is the presumed suspect. The reporters and a law enforcement official they interviewed went on to mention sex tourism and the "companion's" age. You all know the rest.
https://noticias.caracoltv.com/medellin/ciudadano-extranjero-fue-encontrado-muerto-al-interior-de-un-apartamento-en-el-poblado
Latest news indicate it seems he was trying to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) a minor and his boyfriend came into help:
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/asesinan-a-ciudadano-americano-en-el-poblado-de-medellin-JJ7803380
JoeFlaxman
12-03-17, 18:32
There ya go. Totally safe. Thanks for the update.
By the way, What happens after 11 pm?The area does become very seedy after 11 pm. Up until 11 pm no problems. Colombian National Police were present every night in the area up until 11 pm. Like I said I never felt threatened and no one bothered me such as touts, beggars or pickpocketers.
PaisaPorFavor
12-03-17, 21:19
Needs to be valid 6 months past departure date.
I'm planning a trip to MDE. My passport is valid, but will expire shortly after my planned arrival and departure. I know that some countries have requirements that your passport be valid for a certain time period beyond your entry date. Does anyone know what it is for Colombia?.
Quagmire1974
12-03-17, 21:55
I'm planning a trip to MDE. My passport is valid, but will expire shortly after my planned arrival and departure. I know that some countries have requirements that your passport be valid for a certain time period beyond your entry date. Does anyone know what it is for Colombia?Full and official information here:
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Colombia.html
Keep in mind that for many countries, your passport must be valid for six months beyond the expiration date printed in your passport. Meaning, for many countries, passports technically expire six months before the official expiration date. I've read more than one post on TripAdvisor where someone's vacation was blown up because their passport was technically expired.
To echo YippieKayay, yeah, update your passport pronto. Expect the process to take about six weeks (mine did).
Big Boss Man
12-03-17, 22:03
I think this is a booker for Venezoalian chicas. I whatsapped them and they said they were with one block of the Floresta metro station. They charge 60000 pesos an hour. I looked at Google Maps and it showed a 40 minute drive during a rainstorm and said I could not make it because of the traffic. The booker countered that she could send someone to my place for 140000 pesos. I agreed. One hour later a young chica shows at my hotel. Not a looker by any means. However she gave a decent massage and the sex was good. I tipped her 50000 additional for BBBJ.
Whatsapp: +57 xxxx405031.
El Mechanico
12-03-17, 22:35
Pretty sure it has to be valid for duration of stay. I'd get a new one ASAP.I have heard of some countries denying entry if the expiration date is within six months of the day you try to get in. Better to be careful and renew it ahead of time. Don't worry about the six months that you'll lose!
El Mechanico.
Last time I had an early flight out of Meddy at about 8 am. It has never crossed my mind to walk myself at dawn with luggage to Poblado metro station, then take a metro to the city centre, then take a public van to the airport if it even were available so early, and then to fear it may stuck somewhere in traffic for whatever reason and I would miss my flight. So, that's why I call busing to and from airport a BS, the same sort of advice given earlier in the thread to protect oneself in the city centre with 'a full size umbrella with a sharpened point as a possible weapon you can carry anywhere without trouble'There is a taxi rank where the bus drops you off, which is why I specifically mentioned the bus + taxi option, and noted that this might or might not save much money depending on where you were staying. But why would a van be any more or less likely to be stuck in traffic than a taxi? The post I responded to said nothing about Poblado.
For people who travel a lot, it is not a question of $25 one time, but rather a question of $25 many times. Glad that money is no object for you, and hope that situation continues for you.
I don't speak fluent Spanish ... There have probably only been about a dozen confirmed cases of people being drugged in ColombiaRight, you don't speak fluent Spanish, so you don't have any idea. I personally know more than a dozen people who have been drugged in Colombia. What is your definition of 'confirmed'?
Folks, in any country, those who don't speak the local language aren't going to actually know what's going on. They may think they know what's going on, but all their information is inherently filtered, and the demographic group they interacted with will be inherently restricted.
So, I would not out of hand dismiss what someone like JjBee62 says, but I would give more credence to information that came from someone fluent in the language of the realm. But that statement about only a dozen cases of drugging is just totally ridiculous.
I suspect the American may have been up to some shady business, drugs and such. I don't have any facts to support that. It is a hunch that makes the pieces fit together.Which américan? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.
Hilltopper
12-04-17, 06:36
Which amrican? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.I beg to differ. Not a single Colombian I know or met has any such problem. They'll say, Americans are from the USA, the country that has America in its name. They identify as Colombian and ask who are they to tell an American how to identify himself? Now I have run into dudes who say almost verbatim what you typed. Guess who they are? Liberal White dudes from the States, Canada, Europe, etc. The Colombians and I laugh and take a shot of guaro after the apologetic, misguided White dude walks away. The Colombians I interact with literally laugh at all the PC nonsense.
Real talk.
Which amrican? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.I have locals all the time ask me in both Colombia and Brazil, if I'm an "Americano".
That's them, asking me, using the term "americano".
And in over 20 years, I've never had anyone get really pissed off over the matter, not even a little pissed off, and as a matter of fact, they generally use the term to describe people from the USA, or use the term, gringo Lol
Right, you don't speak fluent Spanish, so you don't have any idea. I personally know more than a dozen people who have been drugged in Colombia. What is your definition of 'confirmed'?
Folks, in any country, those who don't speak the local language aren't going to actually know what's going on. They may think they know what's going on, but all their information is inherently filtered, and the demographic group they interacted with will be inherently restricted.
So, I would not out of hand dismiss what someone like JjBee62 says, but I would give more credence to information that came from someone fluent in the language of the realm. But that statement about only a dozen cases of drugging is just totally ridiculous.I'm going to eat my words on this one. But first I will qualify my previous statement.
I know of several cases in the US, where some guy goes out and goes crazy in a strip club or casino, maxes out their credit cards and then claims they were drugged, or the establishment falsely charged them. I know there are cases of people doing the same thing in Colombia and then concocting a story about being drugged. I also know there are cases of people being drugged here. It's real, but it's also a convenient excuse for lack of self-control.
I just talked with someone who fell victim to this. It didn't happen in his room and his losses were minimal. He saw some girls and started talking. A Colombian guy came up, started talking and then went to the bar to buy shots. Much later he woke up in a strange room with no memory of what happened.
Big Boss Man
12-04-17, 14:20
Address: Calle 32 F # 65 4 Belen Fatima.
From my worldwide experience sometimes the managers of casas have a knack for hiring women who enjoy sex. I think this casa has one of those managers. My two best sex experiences during a one week stay in Medellin were at this casa. I think you could anything legal in terms of sex acts that you want here. The downside is the facility is the worst of any I visited in terms of bed and shower. Also there are only 3 women in the lineup. 150000 pesos per hour is the base price. 250000 if you want two women at a time. I tipped for some extras. One time 20000 pesos and the other time 50000 pesos. This casa is my top recommendation. Pictures from Whatsapp contact are real but of course they pick flattering pictures.
Mr Enternational
12-04-17, 15:24
My two best sex experiences during a one week stay in Medellin were at this casa. The downside is the facility is the worst of any I visited in terms of bed and shower. Also there are only 3 women in the lineup. 150000 pesos per hour is the base price. Strange. You can find any type of girl at any type of place, but most people are willing to pay this kind of money because of the facility/setting.
Alliwantislove
12-04-17, 15:40
Which amrican? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.I agree with your logic. But many years ago I was in a bar in Asia having a conversation with the guy next to me. He asked if I was American. I said "Well. I am from the United States. " he got quite pissed off that I hadn't simply answered "yes".
Bob.
Which amrican? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.If you read the following article, written on a Colombian website by a Colombian reporter, she refers to the victim as an "americano".
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/asesinan-a-ciudadano-americano-en-el-poblado-de-medellin-JJ7803380
I agree that all people from North and South America are Americas, but I doubt the general populace get pissed off if someone from the US refers to himself as an American. Also, there are some people from the US who think they are superior to locals when visiting other countries. I wish those people would disappear, but I know it won't happen.
MattInNorfolk
12-04-17, 17:10
Which amrican? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.I have been travelling regularly there for almost 6 years, have business, and even had a fiance from Medellin at one time, and still great friends with her family. I out of habit said Americano one time, and they all looked at me and said were not? I realized my mistake, and they told me lovingly they knew I meant know harm but when someone from the USA says it it comes across like we are the only ones. They said to use North American, or I am from the USA. If you put yourselves in their shoes, I understand their point exactly. I strongly recommend not saying it.
The downside is the facility is the worst of any I visited in terms of bed and shower.How bad that is might depend on where else you have been. Are you comparing it to say Yakuza or New Life?
Mr Enternational
12-04-17, 18:50
' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.That could just as well mean that you are from the Estados Unidos Mexicanos instead of the Estados Unidos Americanos.
Which amrican? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.Technically you are 100% correct. And me personally, I follow your thinking and never identify myself as just "American. " However, people from the USA Are so commonly referred to as "Americans," that it's generally not a problem saying it. Sort of like saying "I'm playing well" vs "I'm playing good. " The latter is grammatically incorrect, but it's so commonly used that it's become acceptable.
Also not all Latin Americans have a problem with it (not even close). I dated a Venezuelan girl in the USA Who insisted that I was "Norte Americano" not American. However, that's not technically correct either as it would include Canada and Mexico.
OTOH I have Colombian friends that use American all the time for people from the USA. In Cuba, all my acquaintances call me Americano.
If you read the following article, written on a Colombian website by a Colombian reporter, she refers to the victim as an "americano".
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/asesinan-a-ciudadano-americano-en-el-poblado-de-medellin-JJ7803380
I agree that all people from North and South America are Americas, but I doubt the general populace get pissed off if someone from the US refers to himself as an American. Also, there are some people from the US who think they are superior to locals when visiting other countries. I wish those people would disappear, but I know it won't happen.Agree on both counts.
That could just as well mean that you are from the Estados Unidos Mexicanos instead of the Estados Unidos Americanos.I love you Mr E, but I've never heard a Mexican referred to as estadounidense. Nor the country of Mexico as Estados Unidos.
Morever EE. UU. (Estados Unidos) is the abbreviation on official forms for the USA.
Technically speaking estadounidense is the most accurate (and non-insulting) word for a person from the USA.
I just did a check for this month and the price is only $35, but remember, the prices fluctuate. Who are you checking with? They are definitely trying to overcharge you.I went on their site but I put it in for March. Maybe that's the high season and prices are up then.
Big Boss Man
12-04-17, 20:29
How bad that is might depend on where else you have been. Are you comparing it to say Yakuza or New Life?I have been to Centro casas on previous trips. I have not had good experiences there. Why anybody would recommend to anybody to go to New Life is beyond me. I am 0 for 2 there. No desire to go 0 for 3. I don't remember what the showers are like. I went to Paradise. It was blah but the facilities are nice. My one good experience was I believe at Dulce Compania with a 27-year old. I remember walking out of New Life so unhappy that I walked into the next place I found. That was when we carried paper maps around Centro. I always much preferred Energy, Blue Room and Zen. There is so much pussy in Medellin you can carve your own path. You can go from $10 to $200 USD. From streetwalkers to takeout from La Isla. Whatever floats your boat.
Mr Enternational
12-04-17, 21:38
I love you Mr E, but I've never heard a Mexican referred to as estadounidense. Nor the country of Mexico as Estados Unidos.México, officially the United Mexican States (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico
Iguana Six
12-04-17, 22:37
Appreciated the advice and the links!
Big Boss Man
12-04-17, 23:15
Strange. You can find any type of girl at any type of place, but most people are willing to pay this kind of money because of the facility/setting.A guy named Cubanut disagreed with you. The linked post is from 2011.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1172528&viewfull=1#post1172528.
Interpreting an event like this from sketchy facts seems to always give rise to arguments, but here is my 2 cents anyways.
This guy had an apt on 43 and calle 10, which is a nice spot, right down from Parque Lleras. My question would be, how does the 23 year old dude get in the apt? Of course the article says that she called for help, and he just happened to be right outside the door, but that seems unlikely. In one scenario then, the American dude (from the US) invites both the girl and the guy in. This would be a fatal mistake. Personally, on the rare occasions where I have had 2 women in my room at the same time, it seems to me they are trying to steal from me constantly. If you are porking one, the other is going through your jeans pockets. But the idea of inviting a girl and a guy, presumably her boyfriend. Well, anything can and probably will happen.
Scenario 2 is that it was a setup where the girl comes in and then the 23 year old dude rushes in. I wonder if the guy's apt was on the 1st floor, that is on the street? That's the only way I can see this happening. And that's shitty luck.
The article says, if I read it right, that there was a gun found, and also 2 knives, and that he was killed with the knives. So maybe he pulled the gun at some point. (How would you get a gun down there? You wouldn't get a gun for a week's stay?) So one might speculate what the argument was about. Without reaching too far, you would guess that the girl indicated earlier that she wanted to make love, but it was a setup to rob the dude. They started taking his shit, and he resisted. Dead.
There is danger in Medellin, always remember.
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/asesinan-a-ciudadano-americano-en-el-poblado-de-medellin-JJ7803380
YippieKayay
12-05-17, 00:49
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/asesinan-a-ciudadano-americano-en-el-poblado-de-medellin-JJ7803380Shit I've actually stayed in that building. There's no security personnel. It's literally 2 apartments if I remember correctly. Holy shit. I'm really thinking Cartagena is the better spot right now. Fuck this jazz about guns and knives.
Shit I've actually stayed in that building. There's no security personnel. It's literally 2 apartments if I remember correctly. Holy shit. I'm really thinking Cartagena is the better spot right now. Fuck this jazz about guns and knives.http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/carcel-para-joven-senalado-de-asesinar-a-norteamericano-DH7810225
Another article. Another thought. What if the 23 year old had the gun, and gringo took it away from him? You know, it's more likely the kid had a gun than that the gringo had a gun.
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/carcel-para-joven-senalado-de-asesinar-a-norteamericano-DH7810225
For the sake of those who do not read Spanish here is the article in English (I did this on the fly, so excuse the mistakes and please make corrections if you like):
To jail for a crime against a stranger in El Poblado.
A youth of 23 years was sent this Monday to preventive prison indicated to show how he is responsible for the assassination, this past weekend, of a North American inside of an apartment in El Poblado.
In agreement with the judicial report of the cadaver of the victim, Johnny Noel Simancas, was found a blank weapon across the neck.
The principal hypothesis by the authorities is that within the property a struggle occurred in that the stranger, intending on abusing a minor of age of 17 years. It appears the adolescent alerted a friend to rescue him and there discarded the acts of violence.
When the authorities arrived to the scene of the crime, Friday night, they found the naked cadaver of the stranger, with weapons: one empty gun and two knives. Also, there were bloody footprints along the tiles (roof or floor, or both) which led the authorities initially a persecution of the neighborhood that gave up the person responsible for the crime.
In the apartment they were able to find the documents of the adolescent who denounced the abuse.
The captured youth did not accept the charges imputed on him for the crime of simple homicide. The minor in age, for his part, was presented before a judge of Infancy and Adolescence.
Search for crimes in Cartagena then decide. Remember to account for the bigger population of Medellin. You need to be careful in either city.
Shit I've actually stayed in that building. There's no security personnel. It's literally 2 apartments if I remember correctly. Holy shit. I'm really thinking Cartagena is the better spot right now. Fuck this jazz about guns and knives.
Interesting translation. So the cadaver made a report? That is quite a feat. I always thought 'dead men tell no tales.' Guess I was wrong about that. And a blank weapon was found? And the neighborhood was persecuted? Interesting. What was this, google translate? Snicker. 'Just say no' to on-line translators.
And um, the minor was a female, not a male. Not just one, but two elements of the last sentence indicate that.
Se dice "norteamericano".
I have been travelling regularly there for almost 6 years, have business, and even had a fiance from Medellin at one time, and still great friends with her family. I out of habit said Americano one time, and they all looked at me and said were not? I realized my mistake, and they told me lovingly they knew I meant know harm but when someone from the USA says it it comes across like we are the only ones. They said to use North American, or I am from the USA. If you put yourselves in their shoes, I understand their point exactly. I strongly recommend not saying it.
I agree, for me chicapunto is a plan be or see option.
Yep have done a Chicopunto run, but I kinda like the laid back party atmosphere they get at Yakuza, dudes on couches drinking beers with the girls. I wander in and out of there several times a day usually to see who's working. And 45 k to my hotel is hard to be for the occasional cutie they have working.
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