Vienna

[Sirioja]

This almost is unique to FKKs that you pay afterwards. In any other system or club all over the world you pay generally before and decide how long you want to stay before. You can always extend so it is not a logistical problem.

Since this topic came up, funny story (not for the girls) happened yesterday at GT. A guy paid 2 ladies close to 300 for their session which, as far as I heard, was some kind of trio action and after they still demanded more he called the police and hardly anyone could stop him. Management had a very hard time getting this under control. I am sure he wished he had paid before rather than being confronted with additional charges that he didn't expect or wanted. People said he was Russian, so better not screw with them. LOLBut if you enjoy the girl and want to extend. You have to stop fucking her, put on your robe, to return at the bar to pay more?

What I like with my favorites in FKK is we never speak about money, only time spent in room talk, most of times nothing asked for some extra services.

[Delta Indigo]

No entry fee.

Standard price is 200 EURO for an hour and 150 for half an hour. 250 an hour if you take the girl to the hotel from there.

We pay at the bar before going to the room.

No obligation to by a drink for the lady but an obligation to drink something yourself if you are not going to the room immediately. It's a bar, so people usually drink something (or a lot) before they go to the room.I was there last year and it was 110 or 120 for 30 minutes, is it now 150 for 30 minutes? That would make it more expensive than the globe.

[Massimo Potente]

I was there last year and it was 110 or 120 for 30 minutes, is it now 150 for 30 minutes? That would make it more expensive than the globe.They increased the half hour price October last year. Hour price stayed the same.

[PepeNder]

But if you try a girl on first time, how can you pay before if you don't know how long you want to stay with her?

I never paid before at Wellcum, or Andiamo, or Switzerland, or NL, or DE.In all three countries that I've recently visited, it was never in doubt and completely natural that I should paid before the session. As far as I know, outside of FKKs you pretty much always pay before, everywhere in the world. Probably a safety thing.

[MonSooner]

But if you enjoy the girl and want to extend. You have to stop fucking her, put on your robe, to return at the bar to pay more?

What I like with my favorites in FKK is we never speak about money, only time spent in room talk, most of times nothing asked for some extra services.I am sure every experienced guy has this favourite girl in his favourite club where he needn't worry about anything at all.

[PussyLiccker]

I was there last year and it was 110 or 120 for 30 minutes, is it now 150 for 30 minutes? That would make it more expensive than the globe.For half HR, yes, but if doing 1 HR it's not. Also, if you consider no entry fee, single session there is on par with standard half HR at GT. After that it's really not comparable.

People mention premium girls are charging at GT, but if consider if 100 was a premium for half HR at GT, that is still 50 cheaper than Maxim. If I took 1 HR at GT for 120, and one consider that a premium over standard 30 min, 60 Euros, this HR is still 30 Euros cheaper than Maxim's 30 min rate or even 80 Euros cheaper compared to Maxim's 200 for the HR. I don't see how this pricing is sensible compared to GT pricing.

Based on all this considered, GT and FP would be the sensible option. I would not pay either of thoses rates at Maxim. I don't don't see why youxd go there unless you got more Euros than sense or Maxim was the only option. Last time I was there the LU wasn't even comparable to GT. Given the greater premium on the pricing, I didn't even find girls there even to fuck for 60 Euros at GT.

The queation is what is included in the 200 Euros per HR? If it possible girls won't DFK in that price? At least in Globe there is consistancy in better service standards in terms what girls provide.

[Foreman371]

About the paying upfront thing, you pay upfront almost everywhere in the world, the paying after only applies to certain European establishments, mostly FKK-like. Even in Europe I would say that you pay upfront in the vast majority of cases.


A guy paid 2 ladies close to 300 for their session which, as far as I heard, was some kind of trio action and after they still demanded more he called the police and hardly anyone could stop him. Management had a very hard time getting this under control. I am sure he wished he had paid before rather than being confronted with additional charges that he didn't expect or wanted. Thanks for sharing the story. So did the police actually enter GT and what happened in the end? Who was in the wrong, him or the girls? How does something like this even happen, did the girls just not tell him the cost up front?

[MonSooner]

For half HR, yes, but if doing 1 HR it's not. Also, if you consider no entry fee, single session there is on par with standard half HR at GT. After that it's really not comparable.

Based on all this considered, GT and FP would be the sensible option..But what you are trying to sell as sensible is actually only relevant if somebody actually wants to go to an FKK. No need to name the reasons why some people don't like FKKs because why repeat something over and over that is really logical and sensible. GT is a great place but many people won't ever consider hanging with dozens or hundreds of other guys competing over puss. If your calculation were the deciding factor than only FP were an option and that's it.

But all that has been discussed hundreds of times and I think everybody shall go where he wants and can spend his money. And let's not forget Babylon. A club that is a money making factory (Maxim probably as well) should not ever be compared to FP. There is different people attending and that is okay.

[PussyLiccker]

I was there on Sun and Mon, and I went with all the hot chicks. Didn't feel like there was compeition as there were plenty of girls (which MAXIM really lacked when I was there and good choices). And no idea what you mean by hundreds of guys. Yeah, there are more clients at peak times (late night on those days) and also there a lots of girls as well, but hundreds of guys? That's way over estinated than what I've seen.

Perhaps weekends are much busier, but what place isn't?

It goes without saying, it's all individual choice, but also people make informed decisions, and we post for those reasons.

Sure, it's all individual choice to pay hatever rediculous rate at Bab as well. LOL

Let's hope that Monsooner really likes Maxim and not associated with the Maxim business in anyway.

[MonSooner]

I was there on Sun and Mon, and I went with all the hot chicks. Didn't feel like there was compeition as there were plenty of girls (which MAXIM really lacked when I was there and good choices). And no idea what you mean by hundreds of guys. Yeah, there are more clients at peak times (late night on those days) and also there a lots of girls as well, but hundreds of guys? That's way over estinated than what I've seen.

Perhaps weekends are much busier, but what place isn't?

It goes without saying, it's all individual choice, but also people make informed decisions, and we post for those reasons.

Sure, it's all individual choice to pay whatever ridiculous rate at Bab as well. LOL

Let's hope that Monsooner really likes Maxim and not associated with the Maxim business in anyway.I don't think many people think I am guilty of what you are insinuating. But if you want to interfere each time somebody mentions Maxim and you remind them that you didn't like it and GT was better, this is probably just as suspicious. I have been to all the places in Vienna that are relevant and, other than you, am not spoiling anyone's fun.

But it's all good, no reason to point fingers and let's hope you don't do it every time somebody doesn't agree with your FKK only hardcore POV. Peace.

[Massimo Potente]

Let's make one thing perfectly clear: Monsooner LOVES everything except for Funpalast after they changed their system. LOL.

He's a GT regular, I don't see why this is even on the table because of a simple disagreement.

And to be fair, Maxim's lineup is weaker now than a few weeks ago they are having this problem every summer until they always recover. And then every time they are up there with the best. Every year. And Maxim is the only place where you can fuck Daisy or Maya or both or at the same time. And the very hot Amanda who is often forgotten and overlooked and I don't know why. That said, I think this thread got enough spice in form of debates. I say. Let bygones be bygones and move on. Any reports recently anybody? LOL.

[PepeNder]

If this helps, I made an informed decision and weighed all options before I traveled. I knew about Goldentime and Funpalast, and still ended up in Maxim. Some of the reasons for going to a classic stripclub brothel type and not an FKK match those that Monsooner described. The above listed places were never an option for me. Shyness is a real thing in my case, and it sucks.

[MonSooner]

I wouldn't call myself a real regular. There are guys in GT who come every day. Some of them seemingly only for the sauna.

[Massimo Potente]

Thanks for sharing the story. So did the police actually enter GT and what happened in the end? Who was in the wrong, him or the girls? How does something like this even happen, did the girls just not tell him the cost up front?Good questions, I will find out because I didn't stick around. I guess you don't need to be a prophet at all to know who was in the wrong and certainly girls denied him some price info up front and it is likely that he seemed wealthy enough to the girls to try and pull the trigger.

Since people have been in a quarreling mood in this thread lately, let me say that GT can't be blamed for such incidents. They just have to mediate when it happens to avoid bigger problems. I mentioned it in regards to paying upfront or not question.

[Pistons]

But you do see how this is terrible PR for the club? I don't think anybody is 'not blaming' GT as a club here. As these things comes from the atmosphere. And atmosphere can be changed. Girls can be told not to return.

[Pistons]

On defence of the girls one has to have seen the desperation in their eyes on slow days sometimes (at most FKK's). Unfortunately though, it turns into a cesspool where they don't consider men's word of mouth or internet networking. And they only consider quick sells. Harming the long term reputations. Turning it into a downward spiral of faltering income.

It starts to happen when there are too many girls / not enough guys and when income per month falls below a certain level. That's when integrity falls below the floor.

If only girls got coursed in how important integrity is before they are let into a club, these things would never happen.

[Massimo Potente]

But you do see how this is terrible PR for the club? I don't think anybody is 'not blaming' GT as a club here. As these things comes from the atmosphere. And atmosphere can be changed. Girls can be told not to return.An isolated incident and maybe this story is just blown up and wasn't even that wild. For me the club is absolutely not to blame until proven otherwise. And in my opinion things like that can happen in every club. Unless money is paid upfront but even then controversies may happen. I will ask around.

[Chubzy Maximus]

I think this thread got enough spice in form of debates. I say. Let bygones be bygones and move on. Any reports recently anybody? LOL.I'the love to know if anyone has session with either Dea, Diana? Would love to know more info if possible?

Thanks,

Chubzy.

[Foreman371]

GT can't be blamed for such incidents. They just have to mediate when it happens to avoid bigger problemsGT is not to blame for the girls' behaviour obviously, but depending on the situation they can take action. I can't really judge without knowing what really happend, perhaps it was a simple misunderstanding due to the language barrier, maybe the girls said 300 each and the russian understood it as 300 total. On the other hand maybe the girls thought he was a clueless tourist and deliberately deceived him thinking he will pay anyway, if this is the case GT management should take action and maybe ban the girls from working there.

One advantage Maxim has over GT is that they care more about customer satisfaction, for example they do not allow the girls to upsell BBBJ, so this alone can be worth the higher price for people who don't like to negotiate. To each his own, some people might also prefer the environment of a bar over FKK. So I completely understand find Maxim superior and that others prefer GT.

I have never been to Babylon though, and I am really curious about how they stay in business with such high prices, do they have strict rules about services so that customers don't have to worry and negotiate, are the girls more attractive than GT? Their prices are so high, that you can get a legit 10/10 model escort in Germany or Switzerland for less money.

[MonSooner]

I'the love to know if anyone has session with either Dea, Diana? Would love to know more info if possible?

Thanks.Regarding Diana I think her profile is just a day old. Might be too soon to review her. It could be her first working day even. New girls receive the working permit usually Tuesday or Thursday so that fits.

[Massimo Potente]

I have never been to Babylon though, and I am really curious about how they stay in business with such high prices, do they have strict rules about services so that customers don't have to worry and negotiate, are the girls more attractive than GT? Their prices are so high, that you can get a legit 10/10 model escort in Germany or Switzerland for less money.Babylon used to have a very casual business vibe and it's always been the place where "the elite" and the rich and the famous go to. The ladies nowadays, though, are not better than in Maxim or GT. They generally (mostly) behave better and negotiations about the service are a no-go. But for 500 that is expected.

A place like Babylon has to exist. Where else should politicians and quasi celebrities go other than there? Maxim has a few of them as well but not the top of the line AAA high society. FKKs are too wide open and everyone is way too exposed if a shy person or someone who can't be seen in a place that is not proper. It's that simple.

[MonSooner]

But for 500 that is expected.And even more so for 550€ which I heard to be the current hourly. A girl told me they still make 200€ from those 550€. Can't confirm it but so I was told.

[Massimo Potente]

And even more so for 550 which I heard to be the current hourly. A girl told me they still make 200 from those 550. Can't confirm it but so I was told.True, 550, I heard the same but forgot about it in the "heat" of the other things discussed.

Chuzby, Diana is brand new. Have not seen her in person yet. I didn't session with Dea yet and she is on a quite long vacation or she left for good. It's been pretty long that she's gone.

For those who are interested in when Daisy will be back, seems she'll return early. Maxim website says she's back on the 22nd but chances are she's already back in town.

As far as Cataleya in GT is concerned, because of the obvious demand and interest that she gained here lately, I will ask her summer plans and let you guys know. Although I don't expect her to have definite plans at all.

[Lordlord]

Any good recommendation for GT, looking for tall slim blonde girls? Thank you. What is the price for anal included half hour today?

[MonSooner]

Any good recommendation for GT, looking for tall slim blonde girls? Thank you. What is the price for anal included half hour today?Anal is extra 120 plus 60 föare half an Hour.

There are many Blondes in GT. Not sure who offers anal, though. I guess Carina and Ings are great looking for any taste. Carina is probably more recommended, I guess.

[Pistons]

How many girls work at GT now by the way? And on a Wednesday for example. Or a Saturday? When I visited last year on a Sunday I don't think there were more than 50.

[Massimo Potente]

Any good recommendation for GT, looking for tall slim blonde girls? Thank you. What is the price for anal included half hour today?I think Deea from Bulgaria could be agreeable. Nice person (not my type at all), small silicone tits (she was superflat before), tall and she often claims to be Russian or Ukrainian but she is Bulgarian in disguise. Half an hour with ANAL will be 180 Euro.

[MonSooner]

I think Deea from Bulgaria could be agreeable. Nice person (not my type at all), small silicone tits (she was superflat before), tall and she often claims to be Russian or Ukrainian but she is Bulgarian in disguise. Half an hour with ANAL will be 180 Euro.I always though it was inappropriate but some of the regulars had a nickname for her. Bit hard to translate into English but something along the lines of THE BRAT or THE RASCAL because her curves weren't that pronounced and she was really very flat-chested. The implants did wonders for her and so did the extra kilos she gained. She has a reputation of "anything goes".

[Massimo Potente]

I always though it was inappropriate but some of the regulars had a nickname for her. Bit hard to translate into English but something along the lines of THE BRAT or THE RASCAL because her curves weren't that pronounced and she was really very flat-chested. Never heard those expressions personally but I know that Deea actually had a chubby boy's chest before.

As long as we are talking about boobs Bianca in Maxim is worth a look:

https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/bianca4

Communication is a real challenge with her unless you speak Italian. She is very good, though, once in the room. Service level is high, she is out to please and her curves are great. Absolute beginner, 19 years old. Together with Ariana we might very well look at the 2 best pairs of tits in all Vienna clubs right now:

https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/ariana

Speaking about a weak line-up, I said it myself merely 2 days ago. It is not weak but it's reduced as more than half of the regular Maxim girls are still on vacation. Daisy was supposed to be back already but she wasn't yet.

Pistons.
Sunday is the weakest GT day in terms of number of girls working. Probably below 50 but more on other days. Saturday will obviously be the day with most girls present, more than on Wednesday. Summer is a little bit unpredictable, though. I think there are always more than enough girls present but that's just me.

[Lordlord]

Anal is extra 120 plus 60 fare half an Hour.

There are many Blondes in GT. Not sure who offers anal, though. I guess Carina and Ings are great looking for any taste. Carina is probably more recommended, I guess.Thank you. So the price for anal is 180 euro half hour, plus 90 euro to enter. I am dreaming.

Of a tall blond girl with long hair. Going with few friends, if we find some nice girl, maybe we can put her in sandwich for DP. Anyone who has been at gang bang at videorudi? I know the girls are low quality by the picture.

[Anamant]

I have met Timea five times now I think, in various cities in central Europe. I found her first when I saw a couple of her movies, and then when I realised that she also met clients privately I had to meet her in the flesh.

I really am beginning to find her a little addictive.

She has a beautiful, bubbly and very feminine personality, a body built for sin, and a real appetite for nasty filthy sex – the total package!

Each time I meet her I bring some sexy outfits and toys bought in a sex shop. In fact that is part of the fun, imagining what she might look like in a particular outfit, or playing with a big toy, or with a gag ring etc. You get the picture!

In person she is always affectionate, and willing to do whatever her client wants. She has a real submissive nature, which I love.

If, between bouts of debauchery, you want to take her for a meal you will find that she is a super companion who speaks perfect English.

For an evening of memorable fun I highly recommend!

http://timea-antala.info/

[Pita123]

When using the Maxim escort service, does onenstill end up paying for all the extras? (Kissing, BBBJ, etc) Also does it include multiple shots? Couldn't find a post on this.

[Massimo Potente]

When using the Maxim escort service, does onenstill end up paying for all the extras? (Kissing, BBBJ, etc) Also does it include multiple shots? Couldn't find a post on this.Maxim has disallowed girls to charge for BBBJ and kissing in general and if a girls still tries it you can definitely complain about it with the staff. This applies for escort as well for sure and not only in the club. However there are some girls that generally won't kiss, like in every club. Multiple shots must be included for sure. I would announce it before to be safe.

Other extras must be paid for and they are in the range of GT extras like CIM for 50 or 60 and Anal around 100.

[Foreman371]

Maxim has disallowed girls to charge for BBBJ and kissing in general and if a girls still tries it you can definitely complain about it with the staffThis is the reason Maxim can be worth it for people who don't like to negotiate despite the slightly higher price.

I wish more places cared about customer satisfaction, GT for example has no rules like this and girls can do whatever they want so upselling can get out of hand for newbies or first time visitors. In the long term this can hurt the reputation of the venue. I wonder why GT and similar venues don't introduce some rules about stuff like this, I wouldn't even mind if it is at the cost of slightly higher prices.

[Massimo Potente]

I wonder why GT and similar venues don't introduce some rules about stuff like this, I wouldn't even mind if it is at the cost of slightly higher prices.Because it must be incredibly hard to sustain in a bigger club. All credit to clubs that are trying it but you can't blame them if they give up at some point. And one must realise that clubs in Austria (unlike in Switzerland) don't actually have permission to have an influence on the service of the girls. So, they can only stop the cooperation with girls who don't accept house rules. And please don't forget that in an FKK club the girls pay to work there so they are the best "customers" of the house. Far more profitable than individual clients in the long run.

Looking on the bigger picture abroad, I really find it fasctinating to see how the "condom rule" in Germany has turned everything around so quickly and how it has become a gamble. I am almost reluctant to go on my annual summer trip and I might even leave out the big clubs in the Frankfurt area on my upcoming business trip because it has become so unpredictable.

Be it as it may, I don't see how GT could ever try to interview clients after the session in the room in a way that smaller clubs can and should. You could blame them for allowing the upselling but there is no legal grounds for disallowing them, either. So all things considered, they're absolutely not to blame and Maxim have a much bigger chance to catch a dishonest girl and get rid of her than the FKKs do.

Speaking of blame, I promised to look into what happened last week in GT with the alleged Russian guy who almost called the police on the girls. It was all blown out of proportion and nothing much happened for real. And he was not Russian but a Hungarian guy, instead. Not that it matters. So, he couldn't hold his liqueur well and just lost control. As far as I heard the story, they charged him good but not massively as in trying to scam him. It was just an opening that the girls saw and it didn't really go their way. Nobody was harmed and nobody was really in the wrong. And this shouldn't be bad PR for the club at all as it was just another ordinary and harmless controversy.

Didn't get to talk to Cataleya about her summer plans as she was absent on my visit.

[Foreman371]

clubs in Austria (unlike in Switzerland) don't actually have permission to have an influence on the service of the girls. So, they can only stop the cooperation with girls who don't accept house rules. And please don't forget that in an FKK club the girls pay to work there so they are the best "customers" of the houseGreat insight from Massimo as always, I didn't know that swiss clubs can legally influence service, I thought swiss law was the same as in Germany and Austria. How does this work exactly? Don't girls at Globe Zurich also pay to work there just like the girls in GT? How does Globe manage to prevent BBBJ upsell while GT can not? What exactly is stopping GT from informing any girl who wants to start working there that BBBJ upselling is not allowed? Simply make it a house rule, hell put up a sign at the entrance "no CBJ allowed". I for one wouldn't even mind if they raised the price a bit but banned CBJ.


Be it as it may, I don't see how GT could ever try to interview clients after the session in the roomThey could just hire someone to sit at a desk and guys can go after the session to rate the experience. When a girl achieves a certain average rating she could get a bonus at the end of the week / month, and if she falls below a certain threshold the club could warn her that if she continues to drop she won't be allowed to work anymore. I don't think this would be a massive expense for GT and it would probably pay off in the long run, better service leads to better reputation which leads to more customers which will lead to more money for both the club and the girls, everybody wins in the long run.

[Massimo Potente]

Great insight from Massimo as always, I didn't know that swiss clubs can legally influence service, I thought swiss law was the same as in Germany and Austria. How does this work exactly? Don't girls at Globe Zurich also pay to work there just like the girls in GT? How does Globe manage to prevent BBBJ upsell while GT can not?
Can't claim to be an expert on Swiss law or anything but it is very common practice to tell the girls exactly what they have to do with little or no room to object. And I feel the same was true in Germany in the big clubs until the "condom law" (I lack the correct term). In Austria the clubs have to be very careful in what they ask the girls to do. One example in how liberal Switzerland is or was is the fact that it was perfectly legal for clubs to hire 16-year-old prostitutes until 2014. Only since then the minimum age is 18. It's stunning but true. And yes, the girls in Globe certainly pay to work there as well as in any FKK in Austria and Germany. I see now that I was confusing in my writing there. Never-the-less the the girls that work in Switzerland are very willing to obey all rules as long as the earning possibilites are as excellent as they are at the moment.

Let's me just close this by saying that as a club owner in Austria you really have to obey the rules of the new law and judging by how many once prosperous smaller clubs are for sale now, not everybody seems to be capable of adapting.

[Free Dude]

I just saw that there is a party in golden time on the 9th of August with entry at just 14 euros. I might be in the neighbourhood. Any idea if it is worth going? Any catch with the low entry fee?

[MonSooner]

I just saw that there is a party in golden time on the 9th of August with entry at just 14 euros. I might be in the neighbourhood. Any idea if it is worth going? Any catch with the low entry fee?No catch at all except for the fact that it will be the most crowded day you will ever see there and the weather plays an important role. If it rains GT is too small to host 500-600 people over the course of the day.

Too hot weather will make it hot everywhere. A cloudy day would be imperfect. When they first had this party in 2013 they counted almost 900 people in a single day. It wasn't relaxing, believe me. As far as organising this event is concerned, they are perfectly capable of pulling it off smoothly.

Food is usually pretty good and they'll host a band.

It's an experience so why not attend and see for yourself?

[Connaisseur]

OMG you are not even kidding! I recently spent a morning with Carla, and it has been by far the most memorable mongering experience in my 20-year career, spanning 3 continents and a multitude of countries.

You must stay for 1. 5 hrs. So worth it. Her attitude, her technique and her personality, paired with her amazing looks, will make you come back for more. Make no mistake, she is HJ-only, but probably better than a lot of BJs and intercourse I have enjoyed in my lifetime.

When was the last time a girl lubed up your feet with hot oil, then rubbed them across her erect nipples? When was the last time a girl sat reverse CG on you, with you both oiled up, while she uses one hand to play with your cock, the other wrapped around your balls, while you finger her dripping clit, with full view of her derriere.

The gold standard, no more, no less.

Conn.


If you need something really good. This is the best option.

The last one that I tried was the touch massage, which was very relaxing and extremely sensitive. I had that experience again with Carla.

http://www.bazar.at/wunderbar-erotic-massage-von-carla-koerper-zu-koerper-body-to-body-tantra-anzeigen-12449384.html

Before she working in another country. She performs the massage slowly, you feel her rhythmic breathing, step by step more exciting. It's the best feeling. I take 1 hour and half. Pay 170 e.

Since it was an interactive massage she touching you all the body. Relish the touch of her small beautifull and round tits and fit body.

Her hands were pretty skilful with the manual lingam ending. The best part about this experience was that This place stands out for the cleanliness and comfort of its installations. I went to many places but this is the best choose stay with her.

[Pita123]

When was the last time a girl lubed up your feet with hot oil, then rubbed them across her erect nipples? When was the last time a girl sat reverse CG on you, with you both oiled up, while she uses one hand to play with your cock, the other wrapped around your balls, while you finger her dripping clit, with full view of her derriere.Last Thursday?

(Joking. It was Monday).

Seriously though, sounds great! May have to get over my aversion to oil.

[Grebe925]

Back from my trip and I can say that I had a fantastic time in Vienna and the other places I traveled to. My reports will follow for the Budapest and Bratislava threads as well.

The next day, I started my sex quest with the place you guys recommended; Maxim. I called before going to make sure that Ariana is there, mostly because I wanted to see her large titties in person. There were around 20 girls when I arrived, which was as expected after reading about the club in this thread. I arrived at Maxim early and it was conveniently quiet, so girls were available for the taking, however later it got a bit crowded. Ariana was with a client at the time, but after like 10 minutes she came down to the club. You were right Massimo Potente, she does have one of the largest pairs I've ever seen.

I was at Maxim's last year and watched Ariana give a tit massage to a client of a stag party on the stage. Man, did she make the pair work! She went off with another client almost immediately afterward but I remember her being very bubbly compared to the other girls the whole time I was there.

[Pita123]

Anyone ventured into Babylon?

[Lordlord]

Me and my friends, are looking for a girl to do double penetration in Vienna, hope go find some pretty girls do it in GT, maybe the black girl Jessy or dea Bulgarian or Izabela would do it. Got some names, thank you guys. If not we will try private escort or laufhaus. If anyone has some more info for DP, much appreciated?

[Grebe925]

Anyone ventured into Babylon?Here's my report from last year - http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?621-Vienna&p=2060606&viewfull=1#post2060606.

I'm going to be in Vienna next month and am mulling a repeat visit. Will write up a report if I do.

[Jonn89]

I went to Maxim last Wednesday and saw two new girls I haven't seen before; Bianca and Diana.

Bianca: https://maxim-wien.com/en/all-girls/bianca4.

Diana: https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/diana3.

There weren't many people in the club when I went, the place was very quiet and chill. This must be because of the scorching heat; it's usually quiet everywhere over the summer. The small number of clients actually made it possible to choose the girl that I liked. Most of the girls were also available for chat. The lineup in Maxim is rather small now compared to other times in the year.

Both Bianca and Diana are rather new to the job. But they are both great reasons to go to Maxim now, at least for me. Bianca has amazing tits and is very pretty. I ended up bringing her to the room, where she was very good and naughty enough which is a great combination.

Diana looks very untypical of a Romanian girl. She almost looks like she's Swedish or Norwegian or as if she's from some other Scandinavian country. I only talked with her, but her demeanor is also polite and quiet, which is the opposite of the jittery nature that young Romanian girls often have. Diana also looks beautiful and I must say that her pictures on the Maxim site are a disgrace and they don't do her justice.

I talked a bit with Natalie who is from Hungary. She told me she used to work in Babylon and Goldentime before Maxim. She's a total contrast to the rest of the girls. She's a tall woman with a beautiful face, big tits, and a great ass. A MILF type of lady, although she's not a mother yet.

I was told by the bartender that Bella and Jasmina are back from their vacation. Daisy and Maya are also coming back soon, if they haven't returned already since then. I also heard that a couple of girls were removed from the club. I think Alina, Racquel and Roxi were mentioned, but I'm not sure why they were fired.

All in all, Maxim is not the same throughout the summer and in this time of the year, but I think the new girls, Daisy, Maya, Bella and Ariana are all worth a visit.

[Erikc1]

Does anyone know about these two?, http://viennaescort-girls.com/.

[Zorp 001]

I went to Funpalast the other day and I was very surprised to see Alina from Maxim there. Right now she uses a different, weird name that starts with M, but I can't remember it now. I remembered her from last year when she was still working in Maxim. Our session last year was good, but there's an enormous difference in her behavior now compared to a year ago. Like many other girls in Funpalast, she was very unenthusiastic about the whole thing. Her attitude was a bit off when we talked, and she wasn't great in the room either. In the session, she seemed like she didn't want to be there and she just wanted it to be over. This was the complete opposite of her last year performance in Maxim. She lost a lot of weight and she still looks great, but it's astonishing what a difference a year and a change of club can make. For me, Funpalast is simply off-putting as far as the atmosphere is concerned. This is a personal preference, but I feel like it's getting worse with every visit. Getting a good price is one thing, but in the end I still always feel as if I missed out somehow.

[MonSooner]

Without knowing all the details about why is firing some of their prettiest girls who worked there for years (and it is definitely debatable if it is a smart move but who are we to judge). I only know that Roxi was kicked for sure. She told me personally. Raquel I don't want to comment why but I also know the reason. Alina and Georgiana probably left on their own account in my opinion.

[Lordlord]

Can someone tell me about sex law in Austria. Can I girl with diagnosed HPV work in GT, Goldentime?

[MonSooner]

Zorp001.

This weird name you are trying to think of is Miruna. It's not uncommon among Romanian girls.

[Massimo Potente]

Can someone tell me about sex law in Austria. Can I girl with diagnosed HPV work in GT, Goldentime?I am not sure and but I don't think that the girls are tested for HPV. But even if they are I am pretty sure that this would not be a reason to deny them the stamp to work anywhere.

[Lordlord]

I am not sure and but I don't think that the girls are tested for HPV. But even if they are I am pretty sure that this would not be a reason to deny them the stamp to work anywhere.What about chlamydia, are the girls tested on?

If they have it, is this a reason they don't get a stamp?

Anyone who knows about testing on HPV or chlamydia, in sex law in Austria? Thank you.

[Max #01]

I am not sure and but I don't think that the girls are tested for HPV. But even if they are I am pretty sure that this would not be a reason to deny them the stamp to work anywhere.The USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) states: "HPV is so common that nearly all sexually active men and women get the virus at some point in their lives. " There is a lot more information here: https://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stats.htm. Some types of HPV cause warts but some types cause some pretty nasty cancers: https://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv.htm..

There is a vaccine available here in the USA And I assume that it's also available in Europe.

[Massimo Potente]

Anyone who knows about testing on HPV or chlamydia, in sex law in Austria? Thank you.Chlamydia, HIV, gonorrhea, syphilis, hepatitis, other STDs and lung health is what is tested among other things. HPV is indeed very common as is Herpes.

[MikeTravel90]

Chlamydia, HIV, gonorrhea, syphilis, hepatitis, other STDs and lung health is what is tested among other things. HPV is indeed very common as is Herpes.The girls who work legally only have blood tests for HIV in Austria.

The rest of the research for venereal diseases is additionally paid, and it is about 300-700 euros depending on the amount.

I know one girl. Who knows " this environment " very well says that 95% of working girls have many venereal diseases HPV is a standard and unfortunately they are not tested because it is too expensive and you must have to do it regularly every 3-6 months. They prefer to work rather than spend money on research. And the condom does't protect against venereal diseases, unfortunately, HPV only aprox 70%.

Here you have for exampled where it's possible doing research: https://www.labor-stephansplatz.de/ueber-uns/preisliste/.

[Howie]

Anyone go to the Goldentime birthday party last night? Wondering how busy it was considering the entry fee was only 14 euros.

Anyone see Inga there?

Howie.

[Free Dude]

Anyone go to the Goldentime birthday party last night? Wondering how busy it was considering the entry fee was only 14 euros.

Anyone see Inga there?

Howie.I was there, it was busy, but I've seen clubs busier. Never had trouble getting a drink or finding a place to sit, there were waiting times for rooms but only a few minutes. I heard some complaints about the girls pushing extras or for time, but didn't notice much difference compared to my only previous visit. I spoke to a couple of Romanian girls that wanted extra for kissing and I just moved on. In the end just took the single session (of an hour) with a girl I knew from Germany, who reminded me a couple of times that I should consider myself lucky to have gotten complete service for the normal price.

The girls were mostly in a good mood, line up was decent and better than Sharks in my opinion, the band actually kind of decent. Inga was there.

[Lecheurdefouf]

Hi guys,

Does anyone know the best places to find street hooker and how much it usually cost in Vienna?

Thanks.

[Howie]

Inga was there.Thanks Free Dude. Great to hear she's back. For me, one of the prettiest girls in the club.

From reading your Vienna reports, surprised that you've not been with her.

Howie.

[Lordlord]

The girls who work legally only have blood tests for HIV in Austria.

The rest of the research for venereal diseases is additionally paid, and it is about 300-700 euros depending on the amount.

I know one girl. Who knows " this environment " very well says that 95% of working girls have many venereal diseases HPV is a standard and unfortunately they are not tested because it is too expensive and you must have to do it regularly every 3-6 months. They prefer to work rather than spend money on research. And the condom does't protect against venereal diseases, unfortunately, HPV only aprox 70%.

Here you have for exampled where it's possible doing research: https://www.labor-stephansplatz.de/ueber-uns/preisliste/.Conclusion in Austria.

1. Girls are tested only on HIV.

2. They are not tested on Chlamydia, HIV, gonorrhea, syphilis, hepatitis, other STDs and lung health. Because it is paid extra and expensive for girls.

3. They are not tested on HPV and Herpes. HPV is indeed very common as is Herpes.

Good to know.

[Fansg]

Hey,

Just a question.

Does sildenafil (Viagra) or similar medicines are only sold with receipt here in Austria?

Is there some chance to buy it without presciption somewhere?

Please let me know.

Thank you.

[Massimo Potente]

Conclusion in Austria.

1. Girls are tested only on HIV.

2. They are not tested on Chlamydia, HIV, gonorrhea, syphilis, hepatitis, other STDs and lung health. Because it is paid extra and expensive for girls.

3. They are not tested on HPV and Herpes. HPV is indeed very common as is Herpes.

Good to know.They are tested on all STDs and not only HIV.

[Massimo Potente]

Hey,

Just a question.

Does sildenafil (Viagra) or similar medicines are only sold with receipt here in Austria?

Is there some chance to buy it without presciption somewhere?

Please let me know.

Thank you.In the pharpmacies they are only sold with prescription. Clubs like Maxim or GT and maybe FP will have them if needed.

[Shaggy1976]

Hello,

I have been planning a trip to Vienna for 7 days.

I would be grateful if you could advise me on the 2 best laufhaus to visit.

I would prefer if I could get specific names of chicks in these laufhaus with good value for money.

[BCTravel]

Hi everyone,

I must admit I would be at a loss without all of your reports and advice on this site so I want to start by thanking all of you. I am making a stop in Vienna for some fun for 5 days and trying to research as best I can. I did have a few questions though. If I want to have a girl come to my hotel, am I able to do that? I am more worried about the hotel turning her away. Would they do that? I would be staying at a 4 star hotel most likely. Maybe 3. 5 stars. At GT and FP, am I able to drink there? Do they have vodka or beer I can order? Would it be weird to spend the day at one of those places? 8 to 10 hours? Have fun with a girl, enjoy a massage, have food, maybe just chill and relax before another girl? Where I am from, we do not have anything like this and I want to fully enjoy this part of my vacation. Lastly, has anyone been to peepshowwien and Carisma nightclub? I am sort of confused by what this place is. I was hoping for some clarification. Is there also a really good strip club to go and just watch the girls dance that is safe and I won't be ripped off at? Thanks again everyone.

[AlexMen]

OMG you are not even kidding! I recently spent a morning with Carla, and it has been by far the most memorable mongering experience in my 20-year career, spanning 3 continents and a multitude of countries.

You must stay for 1. 5 hrs. So worth it. Her attitude, her technique and her personality, paired with her amazing looks, will make you come back for more. Make no mistake, she is HJ-only, but probably better than a lot of BJs and intercourse I have enjoyed in my lifetime.

When was the last time a girl lubed up your feet with hot oil, then rubbed them across her erect nipples? When was the last time a girl sat reverse CG on you, with you both oiled up, while she uses one hand to play with your cock, the other wrapped around your balls, while you finger her dripping clit, with full view of her derriere.

The gold standard, no more, no less.

Conn.My friend recommended to me Carla, I visited her this week!

A minimum of 1.5 hours is a great massage and will always spend more time with you. Cost 170 e.

During this time, you should tip her, because it is an unforgettable experience.

Time with Carla passes very quickly. Great smart, nice smiling and massage is something wonderful!! There is nothing mechanical!

Pure eroticism, sensuality, touch, fragrance. Real images.

I'll be back next week!

[Lordlord]

The girls who work legally only have blood tests for HIV in Austria.

The rest of the research for venereal diseases is additionally paid, and it is about 300-700 euros depending on the amount.

I know one girl. Who knows " this environment " very well says that 95% of working girls have many venereal diseases HPV is a standard and unfortunately they are not tested because it is too expensive and you must have to do it regularly every 3-6 months. They prefer to work rather than spend money on research. And the condom does't protect against venereal diseases, unfortunately, HPV only aprox 70%.

Here you have for exampled where it's possible doing research: https://www.labor-stephansplatz.de/ueber-uns/preisliste/.In this post, it is stated that there are two different test, anyone to know about it?

[Massimo Potente]

Hi everyone,

I must admit I would be at a loss without all of your reports and advice on this site so I want to start by thanking all of you. I am making a stop in Vienna for some fun for 5 days and trying to research as best I can. I did have a few questions though. If I want to have a girl come to my hotel, am I able to do that? I am more worried about the hotel turning her away. Would they do that? I would be staying at a 4 star hotel most likely. Maybe 3. 5 stars. At GT and FP, am I able to drink there? Do they have vodka or beer I can order? Would it be weird to spend the day at one of those places? 8 to 10 hours? Have fun with a girl, enjoy a massage, have food, maybe just chill and relax before another girl? Where I am from, we do not have anything like this and I want to fully enjoy this part of my vacation. Lastly, has anyone been to peepshowwien and Carisma nightclub? I am sort of confused by what this place is. I was hoping for some clarification. Is there also a really good strip club to go and just watch the girls dance that is safe and I won't be ripped off at? Thanks again everyone.Most hotels have no problem at all with their guests bringing escorts over.

At GT and FP you can drink alcohol, they have everything, also vodka and beer. It's not weird at all to spend a full day there. Carisma nightclub is in Graz (and a second branch in Zeltweg). The peepshow is a place where you can go and watch girls masturbate from a private booth. You can also have sex with the girls there. In my opinion P.S. Burggasse has seen better days. Right now what I see is the worst Line-up I have seen there so far. But not mich is lost if you check it out anyway if you are curious to experience it.

[Dupont88]

In this post, it is stated that there are two different test, anyone to know about it?The girls must check every months.

What I know like a customer is that:

Check of blood its sure.

A quick examination by a doctor also.

For sure if HIV + make the card for work take off.

Posh club make additional control.

[Dupont88]

In this post, it is stated that there are two different test, anyone to know about it?I have experienced that more than 20 years ago for Thailand.

I'm still alive.

I fucked for sure 3 HIV+.

Take only a disease for a CIM from a fucking Korea WG.

[Lordlord]

Can someone tell me, what about Chinese massage in Wien, like Nana massage, do they have obligatory control on STD or not? Thank you, if someone knows.

[MonSooner]

Can someone tell me, what about Chinese massage in Wien, like Nana massage, do they have obligatory control on STD or not? Thank you, if someone knows.Maybe somebody can find out if Nana massage is an official brothel. If it is then the ladies are tested for certain.

[Massimo Potente]

Maybe somebody can find out if Nana massage is an official brothel. If it is then the ladies are tested for certain.There is a list with police licensed brothels but I can't provide it now.

Looking at the website of Nana massage, though, they visibly advertise sex and other erotic services which is a good indicator of it being legal. I can't guarantee it, though, at this point.

[Rus501]

I went to the Thai Massage place at Alserbachstrasse 19 to check it out. There is another massage place a few doors away that looked legit so I avoided that. The place with the red door is the one you want. There were three 'girls' available, I'the guess them to be in their 40's. Price quoted was fifty for half hour. I picked the black girl that had the best body. Shower before and after, massage before and after and full service including anal if you want. Tried anal but pussy punting is more my thing. She was great, very into it. I gave her a blue twenty as a tip because she earned it. Great VFM in my opinion because other places quoted a hundred for half hour.

[Monus]

I recently traveled to Vienna for a couple of days with a few colleagues due to a business trip, but I was kinda scared to meet them while adventuring. So Saunaclubs were totally out of the question for me by all means. How are guys comfortable in wide open spaces like Saunaclubs? This would probably scare the crap out of everyone who seeks discretion.

I found Maxim here on ISG and I saw that it is more of a discrete place where I can have a private session in the room without the fear of being discovered. I called before going to make sure that the place is not too busy and the guy on the phone helped thoroughly. He spoke perfect English, gave all the info and was surprisingly friendly.

The receptionist helped me as soon as I arrived and called the girl to the room. Thankfully, at no point was I in danger of being spotted by unwanted spectators, which was a huge relief. I ended up in the room with Sarah who gave me great girlfriend experience. I spent an hour with her and I was more than happy with the outcome.

In hindsight, the smartest thing would probably have been an escort to the hotel, maybe, but even with all the fear, I just wanted to get out of the hotel. Even Maxim was almost too wide open, but with the phone call and being taken care of when I stepped in as I was expected, it worked out great. I still don't know if any of my co-workers were there that night. Personally, I think Peepshows and Saunaclubs are as close to a nightmare scenario as it gets for those who want discretion.

I am probably going to choose Maxim again on my next visit. I was impressed that my request and fear were taken seriously by the staff.

[Zorp 001]

I recently traveled to Vienna for a couple of days with a few colleagues due to a business trip, but I was kinda scared to meet them while adventuring. So Saunaclubs were totally out of the question for me by all means. How are guys comfortable in wide open spaces like Saunaclubs? This would probably scare the crap out of everyone who seeks discretion.

I found Maxim here on ISG and I saw that it is more of a discrete place where I can have a private session in the room without the fear of being discovered. I called before going to make sure that the place is not too busy and the guy on the phone helped thoroughly. He spoke perfect English, gave all the info and was surprisingly friendly.

The receptionist helped me as soon as I arrived and called the girl to the room. Thankfully, at no point was I in danger of being spotted by unwanted spectators, which was a huge relief. I ended up in the room with Sarah who gave me great girlfriend experience. I spent an hour with her and I was more than happy with the outcome.

In hindsight, the smartest thing would probably have been an escort to the hotel, maybe, but even with all the fear, I just wanted to get out of the hotel. Even Maxim was almost too wide open, but with the phone call and being taken care of when I stepped in as I was expected, it worked out great. I still don't know if any of my co-workers were there that night. Personally, I think Peepshows and Saunaclubs are as close to a nightmare scenario as it gets for those who want discretion.

I am probably going to choose Maxim again on my next visit. I was impressed that my request and fear were taken seriously by the staff.Maxim is good at delivering on special requests like this. I've had a friend go there who doesn't really like drinking and socializing and his request of going straight to the room was not a problem for the staff. I guess you just have to call them and talk it through.

Regarding the open spaces of FKKs, they are not for everybody and that's fine. Sometimes I also feel like not going to an FKK because of this, while other times I really enjoy the atmosphere and socializing with the other guys who are there. This is also a great opportunity to get info about certain girls from locals and regulars. Thankfully, we have options and everybody can choose whatever they prefer.

[Jack91]

Any advice about how to easily get to Laufhaus Vienna from Innere Stadt using public transport?

[Ramirez123]

My friend recommended to me Carla, I visited her this week!

A minimum of 1.5 hours is a great massage and will always spend more time with you. Cost 170 e.

During this time, you should tip her, because it is an unforgettable experience.

Time with Carla passes very quickly. Great smart, nice smiling and massage is something wonderful!! There is nothing mechanical!

Pure eroticism, sensuality, touch, fragrance. Real images.

I'll be back next week!I was stayed few days ago with Carla my friend recommended me her.

https://m.locanto.at/wien/ID_2539710270/Wunderbar-Erotic-massage-von-Carla-Koerper-zu-Koerper-BODYtoBODY.html

This was be the best experience in my last 2 years with massage. Slowly and very good massage. Every part you body she touching, this is absolutely amazing massage, professional and very nice atmosphere and Carla is beautiful girl and have natural body.

Better write her early because she is busy. I waiting 2 days but I spend with her the best 1,5 hours (outcall service massage to the hotel) and enjoy a lot, the best investment!

[CarlosDanger]

Hi,

I will be visiting Vienna for its AO studios and so far I made a list of the following AO studios to visit (La Chicka / La Chicka lounge / Studio relaxe / Studio relaxe lounge / Savage 16/ Savage 20/ Asian studio 47) . Any other AO studios (or other forms of AO places) that you guys know of in Vienna?

[NemanLion]

Hi,

I will be visiting Vienna for its AO studios and so far I made a list of the following AO studios to visit (La Chicka / La Chicka lounge / Studio relaxe / Studio relaxe lounge / Savage 16/ Savage 20/ Asian studio 47) . Any other AO studios (or other forms of AO places) that you guys know of in Vienna?My tip. There's a pharmacy in town. Pick up some penicillin. Might come in handy!

[MorandUK]

Went for a trip to my favorite city Vienna and I had great time. Vienna has excellent sex scene with a lot of studios to visit and on each studio there are many girls to choose from. I'm reviewing a girl that I saw in studio relax located near Schweglerstrae tube station. Her name was Lavinia nice brunette with silicone boobs. The price payed for 1 hour was only 100 euro. Her pussy was warm which was nice fucking it. The only issue was that she didn't let me touch her breasts because of the surgery. Would I see her again? Probably not will try my luck elsewhere.

http://studiorelaxe-lounge.at/index.php?p=1_128_Lavinia

[Stirling]

Maxim is good at delivering on special requests like this. I've had a friend go there who doesn't really like drinking and socializing and his request of going straight to the room was not a problem for the staff. I guess you just have to call them and talk it through.

Regarding the open spaces of FKKs, they are not for everybody and that's fine. Sometimes I also feel like not going to an FKK because of this, while other times I really enjoy the atmosphere and socializing with the other guys who are there. This is also a great opportunity to get info about certain girls from locals and regulars. Thankfully, we have options and everybody can choose whatever they prefer.From my perspective, I'd be much more worried about colleagues seeing a girl entering or leaving my hotel room. If they happen to catch me being entertained in a brothel, they of course have to explain why they are there as well. I believe the term is "mutually assured destruction"!

Stirling.

[Stirling]

Chlamydia, HIV, gonorrhea, syphilis, hepatitis, other STDs and lung health is what is tested among other things. HPV is indeed very common as is Herpes.I don't know for sure what specific testing the girls undergo, but I assume HIV, likely Hep be / see, and maybe Chlamydia and Gonorrhea. (I'll confirm for interests sake during my Dec annual trip) That said, let's look at this from a pure clinical perspective. HIV is a no brainer as is HepB. That said, you can get vaccinated against HepB. Hep A and see are not transmitted sexually. Chlamydia and Gonorrhea also makes sense and the girls should be tested. 80% of females with Chlamydia don't even know they are infected.

HPV and HSV testing makes little sense. Virtually everyone who is sexually active is at least transiently infected with HPV. That said, there are only 4 serotypes that we really worry about and again, albeit typically not recommended for older adults, you can get vaccinated against these strains.

HSV makes no sense at all unless someone has active lesions, in which case they won't want to have sex anyway (hurts like hell). Molecular testing is done to confirm active outbreaks, although clinically the disease is relatively easy to diagnose. Screening for HSV has to be done using serology (antibody testing) which does not discriminate between HSV-1 and HSV-2. Given that 70% of the adult population has antibodies against HSV-1, the test has little value. The latest figures also suggest at least 30% of the adult population has genital herpes, but 90% don't know it. (I. E. Most infections are asymptomatic. You can still infect others however).

Condoms will protect you against most disease, particularly, HIV, Chlamydia and Gonorrhea. Condoms offer little protection against HPV and HSV.

Today lecture, albeit superficial, is done. Note: I rarely advertise it, (I don't do curb-side consults) but am an infectious diseases physician.

Stirling.

[Chubzy Maximus]

I don't know for sure what specific testing the girls undergo, but I assume HIV, likely Hep be / see, and maybe Chlamydia and Gonorrhea. (I'll confirm for interests sake during my Dec annual trip) That said, let's look at this from a pure clinical perspective. HIV is a no brainer as is HepB. That said, you can get vaccinated against HepB. Hep A and see are not transmitted sexually. Chlamydia and Gonorrhea also makes sense and the girls should be tested. 80% of females with Chlamydia don't even know they are infected.

HPV and HSV testing makes little sense. Virtually everyone who is sexually active is at least transiently infected with HPV. That said, there are only 4 serotypes that we really worry about and again, albeit typically not recommended for older adults, you can get vaccinated against these strains..Condoms protect only so much against HIV, Cham and gon. With respect to chlam and gon. When a monger and SP get tested they need to tell the health care provider Specifically that they partake in "high risk" sexual activity. By doing this a good health care provider will know to swab the back of a SP or monger s throat for culture. Chlam and gon have the ability to seed in that area and the person can become an asymptomatic carrier. A male or female who is a asymptomatic carrier performing a BBBJ on someone can def pass it on.

As for HIV any skin breaks in the oral mucosa and or the penis increases the propensity of HIV transmission. Many factors are involved in transmission as viral load of carrier, where they are in infection stage. This route is less common for transmission for HIV but it does happen.

In our hobby there are risks and rewards, know the risks and form your own conclusions as to what is worth the reward.

[Stirling]

Condoms protect only so much against HIV, Cham and gon. With respect to chlam and gon. When a monger and SP get tested they need to tell the health care provider Specifically that they partake in "high risk" sexual activity. By doing this a good health care provider will know to swab the back of a SP or monger s throat for culture. Chlam and gon have the ability to seed in that area and the person can become an asymptomatic carrier. A male or female who is a asymptomatic carrier performing a BBBJ on someone can def pass it on.

As for HIV any skin breaks in the oral mucosa and or the penis increases the propensity of HIV transmission. Many factors are involved in transmission as viral load of carrier, where they are in infection stage. This route is less common for transmission for HIV but it does happen.

In our hobby there are risks and rewards, know the risks and form your own conclusions as to what is worth the reward.Actually, condoms are quite effective at preventing HIV, gonorrhea, and Chamydia. You are quite correct that both Chamydia and and. Gonorrheae can cause oropharyngeal infections, many asymptomatic.

You'd have to be damn unlucky to contract HIV while engaging in oral sex. There are only one or two case reports on this mode of transmission. In fact, you have to be quite unlucky to contract HIV while engaging in vaginal intercourse. The risk is usually quantified as 3 in a thousand IF you engage in vaginal sex with someone known to have HIV. Now think of the risk given that you don't know the other persons HIV status (and they're likely negative) and you use a condom. The risk goes down by severl orders of magnitude. Again, as youy correctly pointed out, the risk can change depending on someones viral load, stage of disease, etc etc.

Stirling.

[OfficeMatt]

Hi there, I will be visiting Vienna in November for a few days and have noticed the establishment at Zollgasse 3 in my searches.

Does anyone know the going rate there? Most of the girls appear to be quite premium and I noticed at least one porn star, so I am curious if there is a bit of bait and switch going on. I would appreciate any insights and thanks ahead of time.

[Massimo Potente]

Hi there, I will be visiting Vienna in November for a few days and have noticed the establishment at Zollgasse 3 in my searches.

Does anyone know the going rate there? Most of the girls appear to be quite premium and I noticed at least one porn star, so I am curious if there is a bit of bait and switch going on. I would appreciate any insights and thanks ahead of time.An hour, I suppose, will be about 180€ but usually all covered. The house and the girls are usually legit but it is the most expensive Laufhaus (group) in Vienna and they use way too much photoshop. It's also the Laufhaus group at which the girls have the most bad reviews. Who is the porn star?

[Darster]

Hello,

Is it possible to find some latina girls in Vienna?

Any recommendations?

Thanks!

[OfficeMatt]

An hour, I suppose, will be about 180 but usually all covered. The house and the girls are usually legit but it is the most expensive Laufhaus (group) in Vienna and they use way too much photoshop. It's also the Laufhaus group at which the girls have the most bad reviews. Who is the porn star?Thanks I appreciate the quick reply and the tips. Which Laufhaus would you advise me to visit? I will be in Vienna for five days doing touristy stuff, but also will be indulging in my vices.

Also, the porn star is Kimberlee who is listed on the girls page.

[Massimo Potente]

Thanks I appreciate the quick reply and the tips. Which Laufhaus would you advise me to visit? I will be in Vienna for five days doing touristy stuff, but also will be indulging in my vices.

Also, the porn star is Kimberlee who is listed on the girls page.I would not really recommend one house over the other because when it comes to Laufhauses really 1 girl that you want to see can make all the difference, either way, positive or negative.

But Laufhaus Vienna is for sure the one with the most rooms and therefore the most girls present.

[OfficeMatt]

I would not really recommend one house over the other because when it comes to Laufhauses really 1 girl that you want to see can make all the difference, either way, positive or negative.

But Laufhaus Vienna is for sure the one with the most rooms and therefore the most girls present.Thanks and you are right. It isn't the house per se, but the girl you want!

I appreciate the tip. What is the going rate at Laufhaus Vienna?

[Massimo Potente]

Thanks and you are right. It isn't the house per se, but the girl you want!

I appreciate the tip. What is the going rate at Laufhaus Vienna?15 minutes will cost 50 and half hour 70 or 80 and the girls will charge for kissing and OWO 20 extra each under normal circumstances.

Generally cheaper than Laughaus Juchgasse and Laufhaus Zollgasse.

[NemanLion]

2 nights in hands. Had 5 shortlisted. All off KM site.

Night 1: went for Alina. Was very chatty and nice on whatsapp. Was okay sexwise, maybe a bit too "act" with her vocals but a good session. Wouldn't complain, but won't repeat!

Night 2 my top of list. An amateur who does it for "fun" wants minimum 3 hours booking. And wine. WOW. Probably the best paid sex I've had in years. Wild child, definitely loves sex! Ended up with her for over 4 hours. Only left because she was eyeing the last train back! Sex, chatting, drinking with an interesting girl. Better than a GFE ID say (comes minus the GF issues LOL). Would definitely repeat her over and over! Sadly isn't a fulltimer on this and does it "as and when I feel like".

Overall: good options in Vienna, way better than Graz, though a bit pricier.

These are the higher end escorts that visit in hotels. Never been much of a laufhaus type of person so didn't bother checking those out.

[Stirling]

2 nights in hands. Had 5 shortlisted. All off KM site.

Night 1: went for Alina. Was very chatty and nice on whatsapp. Was okay sexwise, maybe a bit too "act" with her vocals but a good session. Wouldn't complain, but won't repeat!

Night 2 my top of list. An amateur who does it for "fun" wants minimum 3 hours booking. And wine. WOW. Probably the best paid sex I've had in years. Wild child, definitely loves sex! Ended up with her for over 4 hours. Only left because she was eyeing the last train back! Sex, chatting, drinking with an interesting girl. Better than a GFE ID say (comes minus the GF issues LOL). Would definitely repeat her over and over! Sadly isn't a fulltimer on this and does it "as and when I feel like".

Overall: good options in Vienna, way better than Graz, though a bit pricier.

These are the higher end escorts that visit in hotels. Never been much of a laufhaus type of person so didn't bother checking those out.Hey Nemanlion, great report. Sorry for my ignorance. KM site?

Stirling.

[Shauwarma]

Hey Nemanlion, great report. Sorry for my ignorance. KM site?

Stirling.What is KM?

[NemanLion]

Hey Nemanlion, great report. Sorry for my ignorance. KM site?

Stirling.Its a mainly German site but has escorts from Austria as well. Kaufmich dot com.

[MonSooner]

Its a mainly German site but has escorts from Austria as well. Kaufmich dot com.Never would've guessed that this is site you were referring to.

Anyways, I have not reported much lately because Vienna's main clubs didn't have much too offer in my opinion lately. Really hope it's going to start to pick up so that new stunners give Vienna a chance again.

[BringItOnBabe]

Is there anyone who visited Golden Time in Austria in here?

I heard it would be much better choice to compare with FFK in Frankfurt but I think there would be not much difference.

Can I get any information, recommendation for visiting Golden Time?

Other choice would be helpful too.

Thanks ahead of time.

[Pistons]

Is there anyone who visited Golden Time in Austria in here?

I heard it would be much better choice to compare with FFK in Frankfurt but I think there would be not much difference.

Can I get any information, recommendation for visiting Golden Time?

Other choice would be helpful too.

Thanks ahead of time.There is a very good petite brunette working at GT. One of the best girls I've ever been with. Lineup has 2-3 other lookers as well, but I never got as far as to try them, as all my sessions went with the firecracker. Then again, I hear there are mines at GT also.

[BringItOnBabe]

There is a very good petite brunette working at GT. One of the best girls I've ever been with. Lineup has 2-3 other lookers as well, but I never got as far as to try them, as all my sessions went with the firecracker. Then again, I hear there are mines at GT also.Thanks for your answer. Can you remember her name or any other tips for using Golden Time?

[Massimo Potente]

Thanks for your answer. Can you remember her name or any other tips for using Golden Time?Sounds like a description of Angela. She is very very good but if you are not a regular she will more often than not ask 100 for half an hour. But that is the normal at GT nowadays so a great tip nonetheless.

Monsooner.

Agreed. No consistent flow of new girls at any of the clubs at the moment. It feels weird to me as well. Maxim's website shows a few new girls but not all of them have photos yet and by numbers they are still not at their usual best yet. At this point they should be close to 30 girls and it feels like well below. However I noticed Amanda from Hungary being back which is a surprise and there is actually at least 1 new girl that has images:

https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/alexa2

She is very slender and elegant with an interesting face. But also very quiet.

Also seems that Alice is back after more than a year of absence. That is interesting because she doesn't look like the typical Romanian type, although she is Romanian, too.

[MonSooner]

Sounds like a description of Angela. She is very very good but if you are not a regular she will more often than not ask 100 for half an hour. But that is the normal at GT nowadays so a great tip It's definitely normal now at GT as far as tourists and business guys are concerned. As soon as that happens to me too I'll take an extensive break from there. So far I am good though.

Alexa is apparently Amanda's relative of some sort or not because they look nothing alike. There's a 3rd Hungarian as well.

[Zorp 001]

Anyways, I have not reported much lately because Vienna's main clubs didn't have much too offer in my opinion lately. Really hope it's going to start to pick up so that new stunners give Vienna a chance again.I feel somewhat the same. I haven't been to Vienna as frequently as I usually do because it seems that the best girls are still absent on vacation or something. But I think this has become the norm over the years. As far as I remember, Augusts and Septembers have always been slower in terms of lineups in Vienna. I suppose we are about to see a large number of girls wanting to earn back the money they spent over the summer.

[Pistons]

No, its not Angela (but I'm going to keep the name a secret). But I can see how my description may define several girls at GT. Andrea was another petite good looking brunette. I didn't get to try her tho.

[PepeNder]

I was recently in Vienna for a couple of days and before my trip, I have contacted several escort agency sites and clubs via email. Among others, I wrote a mail to Darling Escort, Escort Elisabeth, Maxim, Bijou and many other nightclubs.

I was surprised to see that only Maxim was responsive and reasonably fast in responding too. Bijou, although I have contacted them before was not responding at all this time around. The other places responded later or not at all. In case of Darling and Elisabeth, I didn't get a response at all. All the other nightclubs didn't respond either and some emails weren't even delivered to their addresses. This was a poor outcome of 2/9 places responding. The non-responsiveness of Bijou was the biggest surprise to me. Phone responsiveness was somewhat better with some places, but only Maxim got it right on all ends.

I ended up booking Jasmina from Maxim with a super MILF experience. I stayed at Motel One, which is relatively close to the club. Jasmina arrived on time, and did everything that we agreed on when I called the club. The girl looks great and she gave good service as well. The photos are real and she looks like she does on the site. I had a great time with Jasmina and I can only recommend her to anybody who likes her pictures online.

Here's Jasmina on the Maxim site: https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/jasmina0.

All in all, Maxim was the only club that responded quickly and accurately. This is for sure one of the reasons why they got a good name on this forum and elsewhere online. Also, does anyone know what happened to Bijou Escort? They did not respond to my emails or the phone call this time.

[Jonn89]

Recently I always had to pay the 100 for half an hour in Goldentime. I fell into the trap of one Daniela on my last visit a couple of days ago. All in all, the girl looked nice and cozy with big tits, looking good on the outside, but she was disappointing in the room. There was no kissing, and because I wanted oral without condom she asked 100 for the half hour session. Sex was also hardly possible as she was constantly complaining that her pussy is too small or tight and therefore I couldn't really enter, which made the whole session a fail. 60 euros would have been ok, but 100 was upselling at that moment. She sits on the table where Cateleya usually sits, who is currently absent by the way.

[OfficeMatt]

Recently I always had to pay the 100 for half an hour in Goldentime. I fell into the trap of one Daniela on my last visit a couple of days ago. All in all, the girl looked nice and cozy with big tits, looking good on the outside, but she was disappointing in the room. There was no kissing, and because I wanted oral without condom she asked 100 for the half hour session. Sex was also hardly possible as she was constantly complaining that her pussy is too small or tight and therefore I couldn't really enter, which made the whole session a fail. 60 euros would have been ok, but 100 was upselling at that moment. She sits on the table where Cateleya usually sits, who is currently absent by the way.What is the usual price at Golden Time? Same as the German FKKs: 50 for half, 100 for the hour?

[Massimo Potente]

What is the usual price at Golden Time? Same as the German FKKs: 50 for half, 100 for the hour?Half an hour 60 all basic. Half an hour 100 with OWO and kissing maybe. 1 hour 120.

[Delta Indigo]

Half an hour 60 all basic. Half an hour 100 with OWO and kissing maybe. 1 hour 120.I used to visit GT a lot from 2009 to 2012,60 Euros would get me lOWO and light kissing at least. Is it 100 for tourists now or for everyone?

[Massimo Potente]

I used to visit GT a lot from 2009 to 2012,60 Euros would get me lOWO and light kissing at least. Is it 100 for tourists now or for everyone?YMMV still but new girls like to do it to regulars as well. Management officially allows it now or look the other way. Regulars and regular girls certainly do 60€ rooms (or whatever was agreed on once) still today. But tourists have no choice in my opinion but to pay up. And yeah, in 2009 until 2016 (approximately) 60 was possible with any girl. Now it clearly isn't. Lots of things have changed. Also girls were not allowed to use their cell phones in the good old days, now you can see 20-25 girls looking at their phones at any given moment on a slow night. Things are changing indeed.

The 100€ for half an hour thing started right about the time when the condom law in Germany was put in place. I admit that my predictions were false on this. I thought GT management would be more solid on this.

I wouldn't go as far as Monsooner to say that I will take a break as soon as girls will make me pay 100 for a half hour but I definitely won't be amused when it happens.

[Pistons]

I will definitely take a break if that happens and I am out of options. A few Wellcum girls tried (2 at least), and a few Oase / sharks girls have also tried (4 that I recall in total). All of which girls in Germany being new the past year and a half. If it spreads, I won't be paying any more entry fees, that's for sure. Got my limit price set, and its at 70 e. And then its up to the girl (s) if they are good enough for the 70 e or less. But if others in a club gets away with paying 40,50 or 60 I'll be damned if I will ever settle for paying a tourist price. Double pricing is the worst I know. That's why I possibly may only go with GT girls I know from before. As in girls giving me the local price. My starlet I met there in August and know from before, gave me back faith in the club, but then I only went with her also. I fear the other girls would have upsold me to 100, and I wouldn't have given the club a third chance at all.

[MonSooner]

In my opinion the owner shouldn't sit idly by but apply reason instead among the girls.

[Massimo Potente]

All of which girls in Germany being new the past year and a half. Do I understand correctly that you agree that this spreads over from Germany?

[Monus]

So the math of a night in GT is as follows, 90 admission + 100 for a half hour. And then the added extras on top of that. My own privacy issues, plus the uncertainty of what I will have to pay make me want to avoid Goldentime even more.

[Pistons]

Do I understand correctly that you agree that this spreads over from Germany?That would be an assumption. But given the circumstances and the timing of it, it would seem so. But I never went to an austrian FKK before the new law was passed in Germany last summer, so don't take my word on it at lest.

But if the assumption holds, based on the itel that there wer no upsell, or far less of it prior to the new german laws, it basically just shows how girls working in Austria is abusing the situation. With emphasis on abuse. And I for one won't put up with abuse. Then again, the upselling in places like Oase has been going on for awhile, although it dod shot upx3 once the law was passed.

If the girls arreally this unhappy with the pay, then they should let the management know, and the club should let it be known that the 30 min price has gone up for everyone. Not just for a few. Only that approach creates customer satisfaction and repeat customers.

All we can do it talk with our wallets.

If things pan out as I think, the comming global economic crisis comming in perhaps just 1 years time, will probably affect the industry alot more than this new law. And since it won't be very long untill then, I could just as well save up lots of cash / bitcoins / gold instead of paying 2 x today. Because I se Italy leaving EU, and the bul / rom currencis depreciating quite a bit more.

[Pistons]

Or if Italy is kept in the EU, the euro will slip by quite a bit. Both alternatives helping my wallet.

[Sirioja]

No problem for 70 per 30 mn at Wellcum or Marina Slovenia. Entry can be only 60 at Marina.

[Massimo Potente]

That would be an assumption. But given the circumstances and the timing of it, it would seem so. But I never went to an austrian FKK before the new law was passed in Germany last summer, so don't take my word on it at lest.

But if the assumption holds, based on the itel that there wer no upsell, or far less of it prior to the new german laws, it basically just shows how girls working in Austria is abusing the situationNot accurate to say that this is "girls working in Austria" who are "abusing the situation". This is isolated to GT Vienna because the effect is there only. This has nothing to do with other clubs in the rest of Austria.
And even in Vienna, Babylon, Maxim and other places have not adapted their systems and prices at all AFAIK and as far as I have experienced it.

I don't want to engage in a price discussion at all but most club managers are not insane enough to let the girls make the pricing. If I had to make a prediction, then the 100 premium scheme might balance out the lead in popularity that GT had over some of the other clubs.

[Delta Indigo]

Not accurate to say that this is "girls working in Austria" who are "abusing the situation". This is isolated to GT Vienna because the effect is there only. This has nothing to do with other clubs in the rest of Austria.
And even in Vienna, Babylon, Maxim and other places have not adapted their systems and prices at all AFAIK and as far as I have experienced it.

I don't want to engage in a price discussion at all but most club managers are not insane enough to let the girls make the pricing. If I had to make a prediction, then the 100 premium scheme might balance out the lead in popularity that GT had over some of the other clubs.But Maxim used to be something like 110 or 120 per half hour, how it is 150 Euros per half four but the hourly price is the same. And given the difference in service levels between the Globe and Maxim, Maxim is no longer worth it in my opinion.

When GT was 60 per half hour, that was fine, and when I visited during July of last year, the girls I was with accepted the standard price, it was early in the day and maybe they were eager for business plus I gave them a real personal sob story when they asked me what was up.

However there are many clubs in Switzerland which consistently give good service which are cheaper than 100 Euros per half hour, FKK Swiss, Club History and Club Palace come to mind.

So in that case, GT does not make sense to me just for mongering, I don't think it makes sense for mongering visits but tourists who would come to Vienna anyhow, a fabulously beautiful city, for them it does make sense of course.

I should admit and add though, last time I was in GT during July of last year, the lineup was absolutely fantastic in terms of looks, I have only been to Maxim a few times, but GT beats all the other clubs I have been to in Austria.

[Massimo Potente]

But Maxim used to be something like 110 or 120 per half hour, how it is 150 Euros per half four but the hourly price is the same. And given the difference in service levels between the Globe and Maxim, Maxim is no longer worth it in my opinion.
Solid point if this weren't the Vienna thread. I estimate not more than 0,1% of people considering Globe over a Vienna club when they plan on spending time or doing business in Vienna.

The point I made about Maxim and Babylon not doing what GT is doing is to allow girls upping the baseline. If a price is high that may be out of some guys' leagues but it is a calculable situation in that you know what it'll cost most of the time. And the predictability is what's good with FKKs. Now it's become more unpredictable than ever. This is how I see it.

EDIT: GT 2017 summer and fall lineup beats 2018's by a landslide. It's like not even fair

[MonSooner]

The point I made about Maxim and Babylon not doing what GT is doing is to allow girls upping the baselineTo be exact: they have in the past, now it's not allowed for them. No upselling on OWO or kissing. In Babylon this was never even an issue and won't ever become one.

[Mechantic]

Dropped into Juchgasse11 recently, it's in a very quiet part of town, down a street past the main entrance to a large hospital, in the evening approaching midnight I passed only a singular person on the street on my walk from the tram.

There is an unassuming sign outside the building, no neon lights drawing you in, but once you get close enough to see the sign it's very clear you are in the right place if that is what you have been searching for, or if you haven't been searching. Exactly what type of place it is.

Once at the main entrance it looks more like the emergency exit of a building than a main one, I was sure if I was inadvertantantly at the side or rear of the building by accident, the door was a heavy plated door with no signage enticing you in further and loaded with bolts giving off the impression it wouldn't budge once tried. Since it was a deserted area I wasn't feeling too conspicuous standing outside the building staring at the door and then back up at the sign to affirm I was definitely at the right place, and back to the door again, so I gave it a tug and sure enough I am in the right place.

When I hear Laufhaus I think of a scruffy building bustling with people but this was no such thing, it just looked like a standard residential apartment building with a widescreen display built into the wall rotating through heavily photoshopped photos of the girls inside, including their room number and phone contact for some reason.

The building has 6 floors and crucially has a working lift so I took the lift up to the top floor and walked my way down the stairs. All doors are closed, there is nobody sitting on barstools enticing you in, the photo (heavily photoshopped) of the girl is on the door and there is a metal slot with an interchangeable hard plastic slate indicating if the room is available or not, a red or green sign indicates the obvious. It was about 50/50 between red / green, although notably in my 3 trips up the lift and back down the stairs to review the photos I only encountered one person, a hooded youth hastily retreating past me down the stairs.

Eventually settled on a young Rya from Romania and knocked on the door, about 20 seconds later she answers, the photos were indeed photoshopped. She was a little shorter, flatter chested, and wide hipped than the photo indicated, the smooth skin in photos is always over the the top fake so I expected that but her facial features weren't to far off to be fair and she did have one of those amazingly wide smiles, the few times I got to see it.

Either I was marked as a tourist or Vienna is just expensive as 100 for 30 minutes was the price. The room and adjoining bathroom looked more like a standard apartment than the shabby dwellings in Frankfurt, was given a towel and asked to shower which I did. It was a lacklustre session unfortunately, performed oral well with loads of moans and eye contact including looking at me in the mirror when I looked across at the large mirrored wall to get a more panoramic image of my good self laying back getting blown. However she frustratingly positioned her body away from me restricting my ability to touch, I'm never one to grope or grab at a woman like a sex starved teen but I do like to lightly run my hands along their soft skin during the act, I was denied this opportunity.

Switched to cowgirl and then mish, hand placed over the pussy in mish which is never good. Change to doggy and she has a nice ass and I'm getting into a stride, again she is shooting me looks in the mirror and at least pretending to be into it somewhat. Unfortunately it's not long before she starts telling me I have to finish. Game over for me, as soon as a I hear that I'm done, the mood is gone and the pressure is on, and no release will be achieved. I slowed down to enjoy the last few thrusts and ended it myself there. While getting dressed she spread across the bed with her head propped up on her hand chatting casually to me and showing me that killer smile but I'm too irritated to reciprocate enthusiastically. Back to the tram with blue balls.

Not to be repeated or recommended I'm afraid, next time I'll just pay up and head to Maxim for a more guaranteed service level or try one of the studios.

[Pistons]

Not accurate to say that this is "girls working in Austria" who are "abusing the situation". This is isolated to GT Vienna because the effect is there only. This has nothing to do with other clubs in the rest of Austria.
And even in Vienna, Babylon, Maxim and other places have not adapted their systems and prices at all AFAIK and as far as I have experienced it.

I don't want to engage in a price discussion at all but most club managers are not insane enough to let the girls make the pricing. If I had to make a prediction, then the 100 premium scheme might balance out the lead in popularity that GT had over some of the other clubs.Well Babylon / Maxim is not comparable. I don't get why you bring them into this discussion. Personally I don't see how they even survive as it was, but for them to adjust based on what FKK's do would seem insane. But I agree, lets leave it. I was referring to other FKK's in Austria and Wellcum has had a slight increase too.

[Pistons]

So in that case, GT does not make sense to me just for mongering, I don't think it makes sense for mongering visits but tourists who would come to Vienna anyhow, a fabulously beautiful city, for them it does make sense of course.

I should admit and add though, last time I was in GT during July of last year, the lineup was absolutely fantastic in terms of looks, I have only been to Maxim a few times, but GT beats all the other clubs I have been to in Austria.Well you can find top girls at 40 and 50 e clubs in Germany, and also at GT Vienna who is 100% perfect in the room. Not many, but it is still possible like the gem I met at GT Vienna this summer. Weather or not the lineup beat Wellcum is a matter of discussion. In August this year I'd say GT was at 75% of Wellcum with half the girls. Last August it was at 35% of Wellcum with half the girls. Wellcum lineup was on top in March this year however, but had taken a hit this summer (I do read Lorena returned at least). But in the end, one or two girls can make all the difference, so judging the entire lineup, skews the real experience.

[Pistons]

No problem for 70 per 30 mn at Wellcum or Marina Slovenia. Entry can be only 60 at Marina.Indeed, WC / Marina has better pricing that GT where entry is too high with 90 e. Only downside with WC / Marina is location. Easier and cheaper to get to Vienna. Same argument I've used for Artemis in Berlin in the past, so it becomes an option for 2 day weekend trips, whereas WC / Marina requires at least 3-4 days and a bit more planning.

[Massimo Potente]

Well Babylon / Maxim is not comparable. I don't get why you bring them into this discussion. Personally I don't see how they even survive as it was, but for them to adjust based on what FKK's do would seem insane. But I agree, lets leave it. I was referring to other FKK's in Austria and Wellcum has had a slight increase too.I don't see any relevance to referring to clubs which are not in Vienna in the dedicated Vienna thread. It's misleading to bring places into the mix which are hundreds of kilometres away or even abroad. And even if they weren't, the only club today in Vienna that allows upselling for OWO is GT even in the FKK domain. And this is the point in question. And those clubs are not in any danger of not surviving. In fact Babylon is probably way more profitable that GT given it's high status nature. And Maxim is without a doubt more profitable than for example Funpalast. And in overall numbers nightclubs outperform FKKs all over the country with ease. In customer numbers and money made. It's probably different in Switzerland and definitly in Germany but yet again let me remind you that this is the Vienna thread and people are most likely looking for local entertainment.

What most readers won't know and might be confused by:

Marina is in Slovenia.
Globe is in Switzerland.
Wellcum is in Kaernten on the border of Italy.
I don't think that people in the Barcelona thread for example compare local Barcelona clubs to those in Ibiza or Athens too often, do they?

All that being said, of course you can find a gem in GT Vienna for sure if you know how to approach the given situation. Personally it is very easy for me (and any local, really) to get a 60 session every single time, if I want to. But if you are not local or a regular your chances are not that great anymore and if you are not a veteran then you might find it harder. Especially with the new girls who came to Vienna from Germany because they don't even recognize a local and just charge 100 because they can. House price is still 60, though.

[MonSooner]

I am very sorry for being ON TOPIC but let me inform you that FP entry fee is now 80€ which is still cheap and only a 5€ increase. But I see a pattern because the last 5€ increase was really recently. So, it wouldn't surprise me if we have a trend here. Personally I don't mind it.

[Doctorstew]

Hi guys,

I'm newbie here.

I'll visit Vienna tomorrow, and I'll be very happy to find some Asian beauties, massage only is also okay.

Can you recommend some places? Maybe Goldentime or Funpalast are good places for it?

Thank you!

[Pee Bee]

Hi guys,

I'm newbie here.

I'll visit Vienna tomorrow, and I'll be very happy to find some Asian beauties, massage only is also okay.

Can you recommend some places? Maybe Goldentime or Funpalast are good places for it?

Thank you!Go to this site kontaktbazar dot at and click on the ASIA link and you will find what you need.

[Zorp 001]

What most readers won't know and might be confused by:

Marina is in Slovenia.
Globe is in Switzerland.
Wellcum is in Kaernten on the border of Italy.
I don't think that people in the Barcelona thread for example compare local Barcelona clubs to those in Ibiza or Athens too often, do they?Yeah, it's a bit weird and sometimes confusing.


Hi guys,

I'm newbie here.

I'll visit Vienna tomorrow, and I'll be very happy to find some Asian beauties, massage only is also okay.

Can you recommend some places? Maybe Goldentime or Funpalast are good places for it?

Thank you!No Asians in any of the Saunaclubs or Nightclubs at the moment as far as I know.

[Jonn89]

I am very sorry for being ON TOPIC but let me inform you that FP entry fee is now 80 which is still cheap and only a 5 increase. But I see a pattern because the last 5 increase was really recently. So, it wouldn't surprise me if we have a trend here. Personally I don't mind it.Yes, I bet they are not going to stop at 80. People in the local forum speculate that it's going to go up to 100 or more in the foreseeable future. Would still not be too expensive and maybe this would level the playing field a little.

[MonSooner]

Yes, I bet they are not going to stop at 80. People in the local forum speculate that it's going to go up to 100 or more in the foreseeable future. Would still not be too expensive and maybe this would level the playing field a little.Ultimately 100 is still reasonable. 70, 75 and 80 has attracted a crowd and an atmosphere that is not comfortable for everybody and certainly not for a good part of the girls. But even in other forums all we do is speculate. I can say, though, that I heard about those 5€ jumps becoming a regular thing (even monthly) already in the summer about the time when they 75 came into play.

[Massimo Potente]

Ultimately 100 is still reasonable. 70, 75 and 80 has attracted a crowd and an atmosphere that is not comfortable for everybody and certainly not for a good part of the girls. But even in other forums all we do is speculate. I can say, though, that I heard about those 5 jumps becoming a regular thing (even monthly) already in the summer about the time when they 75 came into play.Although FP has been on a high since they went the budget route, compared to recent years at least, I don't see this pan out in their favour if they keep increasing the entry fee, albeit in only soft 5€ increments. I don't think people will accept FP as a whole FKK club again which can charge a real entry fee. But maybe I am wrong. I think this is what they are going for, though. They want to build customer base and girls backlists to be strong when they start to charge full price again. I don't see it working out in my POV.

[Pistons]

Ultimately 100 is still reasonable. 70, 75 and 80 has attracted a crowd and an atmosphere that is not comfortable for everybody and certainly not for a good part of the girls. But even in other forums all we do is speculate. I can say, though, that I heard about those 5 jumps becoming a regular thing (even monthly) already in the summer about the time when they 75 came into play.Are you 100% sure some people aren't getting discount entries? Because 80 e entry really should put off the worst of clients.

[Rapid1505]

My friend recommended to me Carla, I visited her this week!

A minimum of 1.5 hours is a great massage and will always spend more time with you. Cost 170 e.

During this time, you should tip her, because it is an unforgettable experience.

Time with Carla passes very quickly. Great smart, nice smiling and massage is something wonderful!! There is nothing mechanical!

Pure eroticism, sensuality, touch, fragrance. Real images.

I'll be back next week!I am usually very careful with Locanto ads and such. But enough reviews here and on local Austrian forums convinced me to go for Clara. First up, she was super patient in her communication and accommodated me by seeing me early morning since I couldn't find another time slot.

What can I say. Probably the best I ever had. Body to body massage, that is. And I've had a few. Yes, she is all they say she is. And yes, her not rushing to make you come while sitting reverse cowgirl with your fingers inside both her holes is exactly what you imagine it to be.

But the long massage beforehand is also amazing. Her breathing relaxes you. The calm expression on her face with a light smile makes you feel like you are in heaven.

Definitely worth the 90 minutes. And she is not a time watcher (we did go over the 90 min mark). And she is courteous enough that when I put the money on the counter she didn't even look at it, far less count it.

See'Mon. Folks, go give her even more business.

[CakeJake]

Hi there, I will be visiting Vienna in November for a few days and have noticed the establishment at Zollgasse 3 in my searches.

Does anyone know the going rate there? Most of the girls appear to be quite premium and I noticed at least one porn star, so I am curious if there is a bit of bait and switch going on. I would appreciate any insights and thanks ahead of time.Hello!

I've got a couple of friends who know their way around Vienna quite well and I've been told that this place is really good, that it's located in a large building with windows and usually has madam who lines up the girls and then takes you to the rooms. As far as everything else, in terms of price, it's a bit high compared to other services that you can find in the country or in other neighboring countries. Get ready to spend about 150-200 euros for an hour, although I can't confirm this because they said that these were the rates from a few years back and I don't know if they've changed since then.

[Massimo Potente]

Hello!

I've got a couple of friends who know their way around Vienna quite well and I've been told that this place is really good, that it's located in a large building with windows and usually has madam who lines up the girls and then takes you to the rooms. As far as everything else, in terms of price, it's a bit high compared to other services that you can find in the country or in other neighboring countries. Get ready to spend about 150-200 euros for an hour, although I can't confirm this because they said that these were the rates from a few years back and I don't know if they've changed since then.You are perhaps confusing the Laufhaus at Zollgasse 3 with another establishment. Zollgasse 3 is brand new and didn't exist a year ago. There's also no madam that would introduce or line up the girls. The prices between 150 and 200 sound about right, though.

[Zorp 001]

You are perhaps confusing the Laufhaus at Zollgasse 3 with another establishment. Zollgasse 3 is brand new and didn't exist a year ago. There's also no madam that would introduce or line up the girls. The prices between 150 and 200 sound about right, though.Yea, the LH at Zollgasse 3 is the new Wien Mitte Laufhaus, the one in connection with Juchgasse 11. AFAIK, it is just a regular Laufhaus with rooms and girls. Same rules apply as in other Laufhauses.

[Buck Rogers]

I went to Golden Time about one year ago and I wanted to visit again. So I read some pages on this thread. One year ago the situation didn't sound as bad as it is depicted now, also line up was good in my opinion. I didn't find the upselling on OWO like I am reading now. So basically is it better to visit in Germany, like Oase, and just work on the upselling there? There requests for half an hour for 100 eur with BBBJ are common but at least there is the law there and I'd say better facilities and less entry fee. Thanks.

[Delta Indigo]

I went to Golden Time about one year ago and I wanted to visit again. So I read some pages on this thread. One year ago the situation didn't sound as bad as it is depicted now, also line up was good in my opinion. I didn't find the upselling on OWO like I am reading now. So basically is it better to visit in Germany, like Oase, and just work on the upselling there? There requests for half an hour for 100 eur with BBBJ are common but at least there is the law there and I'd say better facilities and less entry fee. Thanks.I could almost always get an hour for 100 with BBBJ in Sharks, so maybe it is better, 30 minutes for 100 sounds like a raw deal even Switzerland is better. Only thing better about Austria than Switzerland is the fact that anal is cheaper.

[Buck Rogers]

I could almost always get an hour for 100 with BBBJ in Sharks, so maybe it is better, 30 minutes for 100 sounds like a raw deal even Switzerland is better. Only thing better about Austria than Switzerland is the fact that anal is cheaper.Yeah sometimes girls in Germany for an hour normal fee (100 eur) they offer the BBBJ. Is this the same for 120 eur one hour in Golden time? It has become much more a negotiation / makes sure how much you pay than before.

[Delta Indigo]

Yeah sometimes girls in Germany for an hour normal fee (100 eur) they offer the BBBJ. Is this the same for 120 eur one hour in Golden time? It has become much more a negotiation / makes sure how much you pay than before.Not sure, I was there last in July 2017, I had suffered a personal tragedy and the girls knew this and this might have been the reason I was not subject to any upselling whatsoever. I only tried one girl, got BBBJ in 60 Euro session and later took her again for anal. No tourist charges, but maybe I was lucky. When I went the year before, I met a girl I used to know from the past and I also paid the local rates.

Massimo has reported on this at length and he certainly knows more than I do. I am led to believe that Oase and Sharks are better than GT for upselling.

I also think Funpalast is not as bad as Massimo thinks, very little upselling and some nice girls.

[Chubzy Maximus]

You are perhaps confusing the Laufhaus at Zollgasse 3 with another establishment. Zollgasse 3 is brand new and didn't exist a year ago. There's also no madam that would introduce or line up the girls. The prices between 150 and 200 sound about right, though.Massimo,

Laufhaus is a concept I'm not quite getting in Vienna. Are they private flats? Full blown brothel? What is their model? Why are they not discussed as much as maxim or Goldentime? Is service not as good at these places?

I have seen only a handful of providers in Vienna. They were all hits, even though they were expensive, but I had no complaints about their service. They were not Austrian though. All foreign girls. Another question I have is at these Laufhauses are you bound to run into college Austrian girls as providers? Is there a mechanism to find girls like this in Vienna? From what it sounds like you will not find them at maxim or Goldentime?

Thanks.

[PussyLiccker]

I've stopped by Vienna for a couple of days and tried out 3 venues. GT, FunPalast, and Laufhaus Vienna.

My past visits were fairly ok. Although, girls generally ask for 100 Euros for half hour for kissing and BBBJ, I had no trouble negotiating for an HR session instead.

This time around, there was noticible difference in the LU, and the girls I've had 60 Euros sessions in my previous visits weren't there.

Although the club still has the top LU of girls, the vibe felt much sharkier than my previous visits. I didn't get a good vibe from interaction with the girls. This time around, the vibe generally felt like Palace in Frankfurt, Germany which is re-known for being one of the sharkiest clubs in Germany.

So, I was pretty reluctant to session, and ended up sessioning only 2 girls (which is a stark constrast from my last visit with 7 girls sessioned) in two days of visiting.

I now have a clear understanding of the pricing that the girls are trying to impose on the guys. It's basically the same pricing as the Laufhaus Vienna. When I asked several of the girls about pricing (at LH Vienna) for FK or BBBJ, they all quoted me 20 Euros extra for each deed. So basically, their standard for 60 Euros is covered suck and fuck within the 30min duration, and kissing or bbbj provided for extra (20 Euros each). This was the same price that girls were pushing for at GT. So a service with kissing and bbbj would be 60 + 20 + 20 = 100 Euros.

I ended up only sessioning two girls due to all this.

First one was Soraya, who was Lebanese. She told me she was a model in Italy, and I kinda believe it as she had a model face with the most beautiful eyes. She was fairly tall. Despite her claim of being a model, her body wasn't that firm. Supposedly I was her first client in the job. Service was ok without upsell.

Second girl was a Bulgarian blonde with botox lips, and a bit on the petite side. Session was quite bad.

This visit wasn't noteworthy compared to past visits. I'm not really all that eager to return.

I also stopped by FunPalast on a Tuesday night. They had the 80 Euros special with 60 Euro voucher for a session with a girl included. This entry however doesn't include food or drinks which must be purchased separately. I found this out when I asked for drink at the bar, and the bartender chased me down for me to pay him 4 Euros for a measly bottled Coke Zero.

Still, I find the entry fee totally worth it due to the voucher for a 30 min session.

I find the looks of the girls at FunPalast to not be as polished in looks at girls in GT Vienna. Girls in GT does seem to be better presented with makeup, etc. And since GT ambience being much classier, this may have some influence in how the girls are perceived as well. Biggest thing is that GT girls are nude, and have nice bodies. Generally, GT's LU is better, but Fun Palast LU wasn't entirely bad as there were 3 girls I was interested in. If we consider majority to majority, GT's LU is clearly the winner.

Luckily, I ran into a tall model type Ro that looked really pretty. Her service was quite GFE to boot. The other two however, doesn't provide the service I was looking for, so I was a bit let-down by this statistic.

I didn't session any girl at Laufhaus Vienna, but I found it interesting that every girl I asked for FK, they told me they do it, but for extra 20 Euros. I always thought RLD girls generally refuse kissing services. Another thing that differentiates from RLD is that these girls go by 30 min rates compared to 20 min at the RLD.

Given you have to pay 90 Euros for entry at GT, and girls push for same rate as the Laufhaus, why not just go to the Laufhause instead? You can find some good looking girls there as well. I guess one thing that GT has advantage is the quantity of girls. I've been told that beginning of the week is about half the number of girls than on the weekend. Starting Thursday, the number of girls gets much greater, with 70-80 girls on peak night (with early week half the number).

This trip wasn't anything particularly memorable, but I had fun taking my rental through the city. The traffic sucks, but when the traffic is flowing, Vienna is a fun place to drive.

[Massimo Potente]

Massimo,

Laufhaus is a concept I'm not quite getting in Vienna. Are they private flats? Full blown brothel? What is their model? Why are they not discussed as much as maxim or Goldentime? Is service not as good at these places?

I have seen only a handful of providers in Vienna. They were all hits, even though they were expensive, but I had no complaints about their service. They were not Austrian though. All foreign girls. Another question I have is at these Laufhauses are you bound to run into college Austrian girls as providers? Is there a mechanism to find girls like this in Vienna? From what it sounds like you will not find them at maxim or Goldentime?

Thanks.I think Laufhaus as a concept are fairly similar everywhere but exist mostly in the German speaking countries AFAIK. They are definitely not private flats because such are highly illegal in Austria and will be sooner or later raided by the authorities. We have seen this a lot lately. Laufhauses are often former smaller hotels, motels or bed and breakfast type of structures. I think Laufhauses are discussed here quite a bit lately, particularly Laufhaus Vienna and Zollgasse. The latter one mostly due to its quite central location and because it is brand new. Laufhaus Vienna is the most successcul one as far as all rooms being busy is considered success, which in my book, is the best indicator of success for a Laufhaus, without a doubt.

I am not surprised to read that all girls who you sessioned with were foreign and not Austrian. Finding Austrian prostitutes is a tough task, especially if you want one that is comparably gorgeous as some of the Romanian or Bulgarian ladies that you find at Maxim, Babylon, Goldentime etc.

So the answer is no, you will not find college girls in the Vienna Laufhauses or let's say that the chances to find them there are slim.

[PussyLiccker]

I talked to pretty much all Ro at the Laufhause and looks to be pretty much all Ro. There was one girl on the 2nd floor as soon as you step on the floor, she claimed Hungarian.

[MonSooner]

I talked to pretty much all Ro at the Laufhause and looks to be pretty much all Ro. There was one girl on the 2nd floor as soon as you step on the floor, she claimed Hungarian.There is a Bulgarian as well: Breni.

But case in point. The vast majority are Romanians and that is one of the reasons why there are hardly any Austrians around. They don't want to deal with groups of them. Also the prices as they are / were don't appeal to them unless they potentially can make a guaranteed fortune without much of a hassle. Best chance to find an Austrian girl is in more expensive escort agencies, in Babylon and sometimes in Maxim, too.

That is Vienna but in smaller and more provincial clubs chances get a bit better.

I am sure the locals and regular posters here will gladly announce if they come across an Austrian chick anywhere.

[Chubzy Maximus]

I think Laufhaus as a concept are fairly similar everywhere but exist mostly in the German speaking countries AFAIK. They are definitely not private flats because such are highly illegal in Austria and will be sooner or later raided by the authorities. We have seen this a lot lately. Laufhauses are often former smaller hotels, motels or bed and breakfast type of structures. I think Laufhauses are discussed here quite a bit lately, particularly Laufhaus Vienna and Zollgasse. The latter one mostly due to its quite central location and because it is brand new. Laufhaus Vienna is the most successcul one as far as all rooms being busy is considered success, which in my book, is the best indicator of success for a Laufhaus, without a doubt.

I am not surprised to read that all girls who you sessioned with were foreign and not Austrian. Finding Austrian prostitutes is a tough task, especially if you want one that is comparably gorgeous as some of the Romanian or Bulgarian ladies that you find at Maxim, Babylon, Goldentime etc.

So the answer is no, you will not find college girls in the Vienna Laufhauses or let's say that the chances to find them there are slim.Thanks for the explanation Massimo. I wondered about these laufhauses and studios. I think in Germany there is an App (believe it's name is aloha or something) where you can find college girls who are non pros. Would be interesting to see if something like this is in Austria.

[PussyLiccker]

There is a Bulgarian as well: Breni.

But case in point. The vast majority are Romanians and that is one of the reasons why there are hardly any Austrians around. They don't want to deal with groups of them. Also the prices as they are / were don't appeal to them unless they potentially can make a guaranteed fortune without much of a hassle. Best chance to find an Austrian girl is in more expensive escort agencies, in Babylon and sometimes in Maxim, too.

That is Vienna but in smaller and more provincial clubs chances get a bit better.

I am sure the locals and regular posters here will gladly announce if they come across an Austrian chick anywhere.I don't get it. In Germany, you can find some young German girls in clubs, but perhaps some of them got wrapped up with the wrong circle or gotten into drugs, most likely those types. Majority of the German girls in clubs these days are half Turkish girls or immigrant kids, and I'm interested in knowing thy that is the case. And I have met some pure Germans in clubs working for 50 Euros rate eventhough they can escort for more than twice the rate. Their reason is, number of clients in the clubs and the protection. I think protection is the most important, but I think they are fishing in clubs for big spenders for escorting. This makes whole lot of sense as escorting strangers is a real big risk, but getting to know a potential client in clubs creates a safe option.

Wouldn't Austria have a populous of Austrians like in Germany that somehow opted to work in clubs? I guess somehow, situation is different in Austria. Not even a minor chance to see Austrians in Austrian clubs is too different from Germany.

I recall way back (about 8 years ago), I recall seeing 50/50 Ro and Germans working in an apartment in Hamburg. They are all individual rooms, so why would Ro effect them? I could understand in club situations, but I see them as individual contractors that do not associate with Ro in clubs. I think it has more to do with management. More and more clubs are becoming Ro managed/staffed.

[Massimo Potente]

More and more clubs are becoming Ro managed/staffed.Even that is way more severe in Germany over Austria. For instance basically all establishment in the center plus GT and FP are in Austrian hands / management. It's not for example OASE in Germany where pretty much every single person working there at the bar and restaurant is RO. Austria is still different that way, even Vienna which is very "multi / culti".

[Jonn89]

The Laufhauses I've been to pretty much have the same concept, but there is a huge difference between German and Austrian Laufhauses in terms of price. In my opinion, Austrian Laufhauses are higher priced, but they often have better venues as well. A great example of this would be Laufhaus Zollgasse, which looks real nice but it is the most expensive Laufhaus I've heard of so far.

[MonSooner]

I guess somehow, situation is different in Austria. Not even a minor chance to see Austrians in Austrian clubs is too different from Germany.Another fact that could finally make you guys understand that as far as brothels go Germany can't be compared to anything.

This is super off topic yet again.

Credit to you though for some solid points. I am sure you are spot on with the remark Turkish background and some girls being wrapped up in the wrong circles and stuff.

[Darster]

Hello,

Can you name few 4 stars girl friendly hotels in Vienna?

I have never invited a girl to my hotel just because do not know how the receptionist would react to it.

Last time I was in Exe hotel in Ottakring, not sure if it is girl friendly.

[Delta Indigo]

I don't get it. In Germany, you can find some young German girls in clubs, but perhaps some of them got wrapped up with the wrong circle or gotten into drugs, most likely those types. Majority of the German girls in clubs these days are half Turkish girls or immigrant kids, and I'm interested in knowing thy that is the case. And I have met some pure Germans in clubs working for 50 Euros rate eventhough they can escort for more than twice the rate. Their reason is, number of clients in the clubs and the protection. I think protection is the most important, but I think they are fishing in clubs for big spenders for escorting. This makes whole lot of sense as escorting strangers is a real big risk, but getting to know a potential client in clubs creates a safe option.

Wouldn't Austria have a populous of Austrians like in Germany that somehow opted to work in clubs? I guess somehow, situation is different in Austria. Not even a minor chance to see Austrians in Austrian clubs is too different from Germany.

I recall way back (about 8 years ago), I recall seeing 50/50 Ro and Germans working in an apartment in Hamburg. They are all individual rooms, so why would Ro effect them? I could understand in club situations, but I see them as individual contractors that do not associate with Ro in clubs. I think it has more to do with management. More and more clubs are becoming Ro managed/staffed.I have come across Austrian girls in both Germany and Switzerland. Austria is a small country and the girls probably don't want to be outed.

I have come across 2 Austrian girls in Germany, the infamous Aileen and two in Switzerland. In Germany, most German girls don't work close to their home towns for the same reason.

Also I think Austria proportionately has a lot less poverty than Germany, hence less willing supply.

[Massimo Potente]

I have come across Austrian girls in both Germany and Switzerland. Austria is a small country and the girls probably don't want to be outed.

I have come across 2 Austrian girls in Germany, the infamous Aileen and two in Switzerland. In Germany, most German girls don't work close to their home towns for the same reason.

Also I think Austria proportionately has a lot less poverty than Germany, hence less willing supply.100% agreed.

As far as 4* Hotels are concerned the MOTEL ONE chain is good and all of them are located pretty central. There are many other good ones for sure. I wouldn't worry about the hotels not being escort friendly. 99% of them are perfectly ok with it or will look the other way when it happens.

[PussyLiccker]

I have come across Austrian girls in both Germany and Switzerland. Austria is a small country and the girls probably don't want to be outed.

I have come across 2 Austrian girls in Germany, the infamous Aileen and two in Switzerland. In Germany, most German girls don't work close to their home towns for the same reason.

Also I think Austria proportionately has a lot less poverty than Germany, hence less willing supply.I can see that the chances are low, but 1 or 2 in Germany isb't significant enough to make conclusive remarks. That number just tells us hardly any in the club scene.

As far as making parallel to Germany in regards to girls working away from their home, I have met girls working HR away. At GT from Koln or at DV from Koln. I have also met girls from Duss, working at Duss. Girls from Hamburg actually working in Hamburg. All kinds.

Another criteria in choosing clubs is how busy the club is, and they want a lot of clients on limited days they work. They also tend to move around a bit.

Anyway, clubs in Austria are actually spread far apart. Wellcum and GT are about 4. 5 hrs apart, GT Lintz 2 hrs away from GT. GT has big oppotunity if the girl is looking to work there from outside the city. Just like many Germans willing to work in DV in Dusseldorf city.

So your theory is just an assumption with no real data. As I stated above, there are variations, not ones single senario.

[Delta Indigo]

I can see that the chances are low, but 1 or 2 in Germany isb't significant enough to make conclusive remarks. That number just tells us hardly any in the club scene.

As far as making parallel to Germany in regards to girls working away from their home, I have met girls working HR away. At GT from Koln or at DV from Koln. I have also met girls from Duss, working at Duss. Girls from Hamburg actually working in Hamburg. All kinds.

Another criteria in choosing clubs is how busy the club is, and they want a lot of clients on limited days they work. They also tend to move around a bit.

Anyway, clubs in Austria are actually spread far apart. Wellcum and GT are about 4. 5 hrs apart, GT Lintz 2 hrs away from GT. GT has big oppotunity if the girl is looking to work there from outside the city. Just like many Germans willing to work in DV in Dusseldorf city.

So your theory is just an assumption with no real data. As I stated above, there are variations, not ones single senario.Two things I had stated, one about proximity, and there you have a point about Austria, although even though the distance is larger, Austria feels like a smaller place where people get around and more people know each other.

I have even met a Swiss girl in the Globe, the infamous Kim, I don't know if she is still there. So the point was that Austrian working girls do exist.

Now the second point is more important, Austria has a lot less poverty than Germany and Switzerland far less than both. So there will be less supply than in Germany, where due to the Hart IV reforms of Gerhard Schroeder after a year of unemployment money you are out of options. Furthermore Austria is more culturally conservative and Austrian girls would really hate to be outed.

All these three points work together in conjunction.

1. Small size of a country.

2. Conservatism, how bad would it be if people found out.

3. Relative wealth or poverty.

Point 1 is not only about distance, but the likelihood that you will run into people you know in other locales, extended family members or friends of friends, if point 1 was only about distance, how can you explain that there are Austrian working girls outside of Austria but one never found in Austria by anyone here.

Point 2 is far less severe in Germany than in Austria which is far more family oriented a culture.

How many swiss working girls have you ever come across, I have only one in the FKK areas.

Yes I do have a causal argument behind my observations and it is my best guess based upon familiarity with the locale.

What "real data" or observations do you have to back up an alternative theory?

[Massimo Potente]

How many swiss working girls have you ever come across, I have only one in the FKK areas.
I was going to come up with the same rhethoric question yesterday but then didn't because this is very off topic and really in my opinion the reasons why there are hardly any Austrian girls working don't matter. After all this is a fact that we don't have any control over. And of course the Austrian working girls exist, there are Austrian prostitutes around but in rare numbers. And it also makes no sense to ask where to find them because they are NOT some ethnic group that will come together at an isolated place or secret club or anything. I am sure that if locals who contribute here come across one, then it will be announced here alomst instantaneously. Last year there were 2 Austrian ladies working at Maxim and they were linked here so the network will do its job for sure.

[Zorp 001]

Anyway, clubs in Austria are actually spread far apart. Wellcum and GT are about 4. 5 hrs apart, GT Lintz 2 hrs away from GT. GT has big oppotunity if the girl is looking to work there from outside the city. Just like many Germans willing to work in DV in Dusseldorf city.No, they actually aren't. Clubs in Austria are not far apart. And for sure in Vienna they aren't.

[Max #01]

No, they actually aren't. Clubs in Austria are not far apart. And for sure in Vienna they aren't.I've walked between Feesh and FP. It's probably 1. 5 km. There is a big Lofthaus about halfway between them. They are only one stop apart on the small commuter rail you catch near Maxim. GT is. 5 km drom the S-7.

[Mexican Lover]

Hello friends,

This post is to recommend Laufhaus Vienna. You can connect with girls on whatsapp and set up appointments.

https://www.laufhaus-vienna.at/

In March 2017, I met a girl called Kely. And I wanted to marry her after the experience with her. She was a new girl over there and one of the most stunning Romanian girls I met. I would rate her a 10 on service and I have experienced bad attitude by Romanian girls in Europe. I guess, maybe she was new or that's how her personality was. I took a shower in her bedroom and she gave me the perfect GFE ever. Her skin was so soft and smooth and her smile floored me. She was willing to please with french kissing. She started by giving me an amazing BJ (covered though) We made love in missionary with a fantastic climax.

Any idea on how is experience nowadays there. I think it would still be quite good. Happy mongering!

[Shabhan]

I've walked between Feesh and FP. It's probably 1. 5 km. There is a big Lofthaus about halfway between them. They are only one stop apart on the small commuter rail you catch near Maxim. GT is. 5 km drom the S-7.Fresh Sauna is the smallest of the three FKK saunas in Vienna, Goldentimes and Funpalas and Fresh.

Fresh is a short walk away from Laufhaus Rachel which is at least as as big as Laufhaus Vienna, which is at the other end of Triestrstrasse. But a few miles away.

I am more of a FKK guy than laufhaus.

Every time I am in Vienna I go to the three FKK's just to get a different flavor.

[BaltiX]

As someone said if you want to find Austrians girls, look at escort agencies. Don't remember which ones.

[Max #01]

I've walked between Fresh and FP. It's probably 1. 5 km. There is a big Laufhaus about halfway between them. They are only one stop apart on the small commuter rail you catch near Maxim. GT is. 5 km from the S-7.Sorry for the typos (fixed in this forward) -- I was doing this from an iPhone!

[Arnold15]

I will soon visit Vienna again. After 2 years.

I only consider FKKs.

I know they have changed the rules at Fun Palast. 20 Euro entrance. Is it still 60 Euro per half hour?

Still worth a visit?

And Fresh Sauna club. Does it still work as a FKK? My last visit in this club was 3 years ago.

Yes, Golden Toime is the alternative. But too sharky for me.

[BaltiX]

Speaking of Austrians which agencies or websites do they advertise? I recall there were a couple of them, but that was years ago.

[Chris42]

As I am planning to be in Vienna, I was doing some research and came across the Pupperhaus - https://www.puppenhaus.wien - which intrigues me.

Anybody has any experience or opinions?

On a different note, if anybody has suggestions for a good escort and escort agency in Vienna, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks.

Chris.

[Zorp 001]

Being a fan of superhero related stuff, I was pleasantly surprised to see that there's a girl by the name of Bella in Maxim who is truly a mirror image of Emily Bett Rickards, the Canadian actress. If you don't know who she is, you might know her better as Felicity Smoak from the Arrow TV show. The two girls look very much alike, both wearing glasses. However, I suppose Bella has a better body overall, but I haven't seen the actress naked yet.

So, if you ever had the fantasy of fucking the Green Arrow's woman (or at least a lookalike) then here's the chance. This is Bella's profile on the Maxim site: https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/bella0.

[OfficeMatt]

Hi everyone, while looking at some of the Laufhaus pages, I saw this term: GV only with protection. Can someone tell me what GV is?

[Berthold]

Hi everyone, while looking at some of the Laufhaus pages, I saw this term: GV only with protection. Can someone tell me what GV is?GV means sex.

[OfficeMatt]

GV means sex.LOL, how anticlimactic.

[CarlosDanger]

After finding myself living and working in Vienna for over a month so I tried its sex scene usually after work and here are my experiences.

1. Laufhaus Vienna: My favorite place in Vienna as there are around 40 girls to choose from which means its very likely that you will find someone that suit your taste. The girls spoke good English and surprisingly were able to keep a conversation and even converse in different topics which I did not expect. I had 3 good experiences there with Jessica, Sonia and Anna. And 1 bad experience with Iris.

2. Cinderella Palast: This place is supposed to function like a mini laufhaus with 12 girls available "supposedly". However when I went there there was only 1 girl available, waste of time.

3. Laufhaus Kontakt-Zentrum: Around 20 girls available and in this place I have my absolute favorite girl, Delia is a combination of great looks and great service. Though if you don't have a car then the place can be hassle to reach by public transport. Since I usually drive to the address so I have no idea if there are any buses or trains going there.

4. studio Roegergasse 12: Mimi is a sexy girl who offers a fair service which I would rate as acceptable considering her age and what seems to be lack of experience. Although she did ask me to slow-down couple of times however overall I was satisfied with her service. Also on this studio I am looking forward to try Leonora who is 180 CM, and Vanessa who have great reviews in German language forums.

5. La chica lounge: Julia is very good in her service and very friendly in her personality, however she looks prettier in the pictures than in real life (could be because she showed up without makeup). While leaving the studio after finishing with Julia I saw Camelia, Camelia has an ideal body which instantly turned me on, she seemed like a cold person and my instinct was right since German reviews seems to confirm her cold attitude. Despite reading that but I could not get over her body and the sexy way she looked at me so I went to her 2 weeks later, I was very horny and came fast after a short yet satisfying session, though who knows if I lasted longer then maybe her bad attitude would of show up.

6. Studio Relaxe Lounge: Lavinia looks exactly like the pictures and she provided a good service that I fully enjoyed.

7. Asian studios: There are many of them and none of these studios actually stands out, neither in a positive or a negative way. They all are pretty similar to each other. The quality of girls working in these Asian studios are lower than the other types of studios, though to make that up they offer lower prices, much better service and more fair treatment as well, If you pay for an hour then you get 60 minutes of service. So you are winning in terms of paying less, getting better service and treated more fairly, however physical appearance is a serious issue in these studios which explains why I am not a fan. As I mentioned none of these studios stands out but studio 247 is where I got the best service, hau888 where I was more satisfied in terms of looks, and finally it might be smart to visit Studio37 as there are 2 Asian studios there located next to each other door to door, with Laufhaus Vienna located less than 100 meter from them.

[Max #01]

At CarlosDanger -- I'm curious if "Natur Service" (I. E. BBFS) was on the menu at #5 & #6?

[AdamCki]

Hi Massimo Potente, have you heard anything about Babylon Wien moving elsewhere in its own walls? I read on another forum that they are moving soon or planning to do so, since they are renting where they are now and want to set up shop in a Peter's property.

Also this report mentioned, but this can be a total joke and the poster admitted, that they are planning to refresh all the line up completely, skipping completely Rumanian ladies! Very odd to believe.

[Massimo Potente]

Hi Massimo Potente, have you heard anything about Babylon Wien moving elsewhere in its own walls? I read on another forum that they are moving soon or planning to do so, since they are renting where they are now and want to set up shop in a Peter's property.

Also this report mentioned, but this can be a total joke and the poster admitted, that they are planning to refresh all the line up completely, skipping completely Rumanian ladies! Very odd to believe.There are many rumours around Babylon moving from the current location or rather I heard more often that they are quitting in a few years. I can ask many guys but only Peter. The boss and owner. Can really say for real what's going to happen. Makes sense to me that they'll move to another location since the current one's contract is about to expire. That's all I heard and I wouldn't bet on anything.

[CarlosDanger]

At CarlosDanger -- I'm curious if "Natur Service" (I. E. BBFS) was on the menu at #5 & #6?Yes it was at #4, #5, 6# and 7#.

[Stirling]

There are many rumours around Babylon moving from the current location or rather I heard more often that they are quitting in a few years. I can ask many guys but only Peter. The boss and owner. Can really say for real what's going to happen. Makes sense to me that they'll move to another location since the current one's contract is about to expire. That's all I heard and I wouldn't bet on anything.During my last foray to Babylon, I heard a reasonably reliable rumor that Peter had bought some property half way between Vienna and Klagenfurt and was looking to build on it. Perhaps a move? In any event, back in Vienna in a month and I'll ask the man if I see him.

Stirling.

[Diet Coke]

After finding myself living and working in Vienna for over a month so I tried its sex scene usually after work and here are my experiences.

1. Laufhaus Vienna: My favorite place in Vienna as there are around 40 girls to choose from which means its very likely that you will find someone that suit your taste. The girls spoke good English and surprisingly were able to keep a conversation and even converse in different topics which I did not expect. I had 3 good experiences there with Jessica, Sonia and Anna. And 1 bad experience with Iris.

2. Cinderella Palast: This place is supposed to function like a mini laufhaus with 12 girls available "supposedly". However when I went there there was only 1 girl available, waste of time.

3. Laufhaus Kontakt-Zentrum: Around 20 girls available and in this place I have my absolute favorite girl, Delia is a combination of great looks and great service. Though if you don't have a car then the place can be hassle to reach by public transport. Since I usually drive to the address so I have no idea if there are any buses or trains going there.

4. studio Roegergasse 12: Mimi is a sexy girl who offers a fair service which I would rate as acceptable considering her age and what seems to be lack of experience. Although she did ask me to slow-down couple of times however overall I was satisfied with her service. Also on this studio I am looking forward to try Leonora who is 180 CM, and Vanessa who have great reviews in German language forums.

5. La chica lounge: Julia is very good in her service and very friendly in her personality, however she looks prettier in the pictures than in real life (could be because she showed up without makeup). While leaving the studio after finishing with Julia I saw Camelia, Camelia has an ideal body which instantly turned me on, she seemed like a cold person and my instinct was right since German reviews seems to confirm her cold attitude. Despite reading that but I could not get over her body and the sexy way she looked at me so I went to her 2 weeks later, I was very horny and came fast after a short yet satisfying session, though who knows if I lasted longer then maybe her bad attitude would of show up.

6. Studio Relaxe Lounge: Lavinia looks exactly like the pictures and she provided a good service that I fully enjoyed.

7. Asian studios: There are many of them and none of these studios actually stands out, neither in a positive or a negative way. They all are pretty similar to each other. The quality of girls working in these Asian studios are lower than the other types of studios, though to make that up they offer lower prices, much better service and more fair treatment as well, If you pay for an hour then you get 60 minutes of service. So you are winning in terms of paying less, getting better service and treated more fairly, however physical appearance is a serious issue in these studios which explains why I am not a fan. As I mentioned none of these studios stands out but studio 247 is where I got the best service, hau888 where I was more satisfied in terms of looks, and finally it might be smart to visit Studio37 as there are 2 Asian studios there located next to each other door to door, with Laufhaus Vienna located less than 100 meter from them.Could you give some info on rates / prices. What is usual at Laufhaus Vienna and what services does it include. I looked at several of the Asian studios which had prices and services but unclear what service included in price for time. Is sex included in addition to massage and BBBF?

[GentlemanMkd]

Hello everyone,

I am about to visit Vienna again soon, and of course, GT is the regular spot to visit.

Do you know if Evelyn is still in GT?

Also her friend Sebi?

Thanks and cheers!

[Massimo Potente]

Do you know if Evelyn is still in GT?

Also her friend Sebi?Evelyne was there recently and with her she carried her new silicone boobs. I am not sure who Sebi is.

[Zorp 001]

Speaking of Austrians which agencies or websites do they advertise? I recall there were a couple of them, but that was years ago.Bijou Escort was one of those that had Austrian girls a couple of years ago. They haven't been operational for a while, but I've seen their ads online recently, so they must be back in business.

[MonSooner]

Bijou Escort was one of those that had Austrian girls a couple of years ago. They haven't been operational for a while, but I've seen their ads online recently, so they must be back in business.They are operational again for sure but there is a new owner, without a doubt.

It seems different. Anyway, maybe they'll soon have Austrian ladies in the agency again as they used to.

[BaltiX]

What about Fungirls Escort (https://www.wienescort.at/)? Is it legitimate?

[MonSooner]

What about Fungirls Escort (https://www.wienescort.at/)? Is it legitimate?Definitely legit back in the day. Can't say much about them now but no reason to think that things have changed.

Same goes for Bijou. Too soon for me to tell since they're just relaunching or whatever this is.

[AlexInCairo72]

Will be posting all my encounters while in Vienna a few weeks ago.

Firstly went to La Chica. Bubbly character from Romania. Phenomenal breasts that are to die for. Her BBBJ is OK, but nothing to write home about. Skin was nice and she smelled like vanilla. Definitely worth repeating.

http://lc-lounge.at/nikol/

[Mystical Gun]

After finding myself living and working in Vienna for over a month so I tried its sex scene usually after work and here are my experiences.

4. studio Roegergasse 12: Mimi is a sexy girl who offers a fair service which I would rate as acceptable considering her age and what seems to be lack of experience. Although she did ask me to slow-down couple of times however overall I was satisfied with her service. Also on this studio I am looking forward to try Leonora who is 180 CM, and Vanessa who have great reviews in German language forums.

6. Studio Relaxe Lounge: Lavinia looks exactly like the pictures and she provided a good service that I fully enjoyed.

7. Asian studios: There are many of them and none of these studios actually stands out, neither in a positive or a negative way. They all are pretty similar to each other. The quality of girls working in these Asian studios are lower than the other types of studios, though to make that up they offer lower prices, much better service and more fair treatment as well, If you pay for an hour then you get 60 minutes of service. So you are winning in terms of paying less, getting better service and treated more fairly, however physical appearance is a serious issue in these studios which explains why I am not a fan. As I mentioned none of these studios stands out but studio 247 is where I got the best service, hau888 where I was more satisfied in terms of looks, and finally it might be smart to visit Studio37 as there are 2 Asian studios there located next to each other door to door, with Laufhaus Vienna located less than 100 meter from them.Thanks CarlosDanger, I'm a big fan of the sex scene in Vienna, and I didn't know some of these places, they look promising!

On the other hand my big problem in Wien is the Asian market. I'm a big fan also of asian massage, but for that Wien looked like the worst place of all to me. I'm not into FKK and I like the concept of red light district, so when I'm in Wien I like to walk every possible street and find every possible studio, but I never found an Asian one that satisfies me, not even close. I would like to find a good erotic massage, even if I get only handjob, but It must be delivered by a pretty young girl, and that seems impossible in Wien. That's weird if you think what you find in the non-Asian market.

[Member #4629]

We are planning a trip to Vienna and would like to visit Babylon.

Can someone say something about the current lineup, standard service and the prices?

Thank you.

[The Cane]

We are planning a trip to Vienna and would like to visit Babylon.

Can someone say something about the current lineup, standard service and the prices?

Thank you.I visited Babylon in Vienna and was totally not impressed, and therefore did not partake. When I arrived, they told me there was no entrance fee, but they did have a "consumables" requirement of 100 Euros. That is, for paying 100 Euros upon departure it was all the alcohol I could drink. In my way of thinking, that is indeed an "entrance fee". Anything I am required to pay in order to patronize the premises is such in my view, regardless of what they want to call it, and whether I pay it literally upon entry, or when I leave. Nothing but playing games!

OK, so what about pricing for and quality of the line-up? Well, here is where this place really, really missed the mark for me. If I recall the pricing correctly (those of you in the know please correct me), it was like 500 Euros for half an hour with one of the girls, and around 675 Euros for an hour! Those are some really high prices for a monger like me, who typically rolls with a nice budget. But if I'm going to pay that kind of money, the girls better be fine as hell and model quality. Well, the ones who were there when I went absolutely were not! I mean plenty of plain Janes and not one I would fuck for that kind of money! Not a single one! I may be a little off on the prices because its been awhile, but I know I'm in the ballpark.

The girls do not approach you at Babylon. I got plenty of looks and smiles and smiled back, but no way was I about to part with my hard earned money for what I was seeing. No way and no how my friends! So, I was relieved not to have to fend off a bunch of approaches. I stayed for a few hours and enjoyed my drinks and had a little food (they were serving some gratis appetizers) and waited to see if anybody who suited my fancy showed up, but nobody did. Finally went to the reception to pay my 100 Euros and the lady at the register was asking why I didn't see anybody I liked? I was quite frank and said no, and said for the kind of money Babylon was charging the women needed to be drop dead gorgeous, and what I saw definitely was not that. She had no reply, took my money, and I was gone.

If Babylon wants to position themselves as some kind of high class club, then they need to bring in the kind of talent that would justify a monger parting with that kind of money. The place goes for this image, but it just fails to pull it off. Just laughable when I think about it! Ha! I know plenty of guys must go in there and drop that kind of money, but not me man. I can go to other places that are just as nice that have hotter girls who are probably doing dirtier things. All for less. A lot less! Again, for me it's a big no thank you to Vienna Babylon! In fact, although Austria is an outstanding country to visit as a "normal" tourist, it just does not measure up to other places I enjoy for mongering like Germany and Brazil. Great place to visit, but I would not return for the specific purpose of mongering in Austria, and would never go back to Babylon again. My two cents!

[Zorp 001]

On the other hand my big problem in Wien is the Asian market. I'm a big fan also of asian massage, but for that Wien looked like the worst place of all to me. I'm not into FKK and I like the concept of red light district, so when I'm in Wien I like to walk every possible street and find every possible studio, but I never found an Asian one that satisfies me, not even close. I would like to find a good erotic massage, even if I get only handjob, but It must be delivered by a pretty young girl, and that seems impossible in Wien. That's weird if you think what you find in the non-Asian market.The main reason why we can't really expect a good Asian market in Vienna is because only girls from the European Union are allowed to work there legally. Studios are usually the places you'll find Asian girls, but it's not guaranteed that you'll get a good service. This is why I usually tend to choose the safer or more reliable places when I'm in the city.

[Member #4629]

I visited Babylon in Vienna and was totally not impressed, and therefore did not partake. When I arrived, they told me there was no entrance fee, but they did have a "consumables" requirement of 100 Euros. That is, for paying 100 Euros upon departure it was all the alcohol I could drink. In my way of thinking, that is indeed an "entrance fee". Anything I am required to pay in order to patronize the premises is such in my view, regardless of what they want to call it, and whether I pay it literally upon entry, or when I leave. Nothing but playing games!

OK, so what about pricing for and quality of the line-up? Well, here is where this place really, really missed the mark for me. If I recall the pricing correctly (those of you in the know please correct me), it was like 500 Euros for half an hour with one of the girls, and around 675 Euros for an hour! Those are some really high prices for a monger like me, who typically rolls with a nice budget. But if I'm going to pay that kind of money, the girls better be fine as hell and model quality. Well, the ones who were there when I went absolutely were not! I mean plenty of plain Janes and not one I would fuck for that kind of money! Not a single one! I may be a little off on the prices because its been awhile, but I know I'm in the ballpark.

The girls do not approach you at Babylon. I got plenty of looks and smiles and smiled back, but no way was I about to part with my hard earned money for what I was seeing. No way and no how my friends! So, I was relieved not to have to fend off a bunch of approaches. I stayed for a few hours and enjoyed my drinks and had a little food (they were serving some gratis appetizers) and waited to see if anybody who suited my fancy showed up, but nobody did. Finally went to the reception to pay my 100 Euros and the lady at the register was asking why I didn't see anybody I liked? I was quite frank and said no, and said for the kind of money Babylon was charging the women needed to be drop dead gorgeous, and what I saw definitely was not that. She had no reply, took my money, and I was gone.

If Babylon wants to position themselves as some kind of high class club, then they need to bring in the kind of talent that would justify a monger parting with that kind of money. The place goes for this image, but it just fails to pull it off. Just laughable when I think about it! Ha! I know plenty of guys must go in there and drop that kind of money, but not me man. I can go to other places that are just as nice that have hotter girls who are probably doing dirtier things. All for less. A lot less! Again, for me it's a big no thank you to Vienna Babylon! In fact, although Austria is an outstanding country to visit as a "normal" tourist, it just does not measure up to other places I enjoy for mongering like Germany and Brazil. Great place to visit, but I would not return for the specific purpose of mongering in Austria, and would never go back to Babylon again. My two cents!Thank you for the detailed answer. I really appreciate it.

Usually I monger in Switzerland. If I compare the prices with Clubs around Zurich is that quite a difference. For 675 euros for an hour I would expect a victoria secret model.

We'll probably take a look and then decide.

[Jonn89]

I was at Peepshow Burggasse yesterday and the lineup was surprisingly bad, it was much better not too long ago. However the photos of the girls are still flattering. I also recognized a girl who formerly worked in Maxim and Funpalast. To sum up the show, Peepshow Burggasse was not a big deal for me, it was pretty mediocre in my opinion.

[Mystical Gun]

I just found out the name of that studio I have visited last year, great experience and surely worth a report:

Studio 6 Hexen: I went around 17 - 18, and when I entered there were three girls: a cute with nice curves, a mature Romanian with nice ass and a tall blonde with fake tits and long legs. I went for the last one for half an hour (fair price) and asked to begin with a small massage. In my surprise she began with a soft rimming that made me crazy. That was an amazing start and for the rest of the time we did a nice fuck in two positions, then a great facefuck (she really enjoyed that) and I finished with m hand while sitting on her face while she was rimming. The place is a little dirt, I will never make a shower in that place, but service really good, first place I will go on when I return to Wien.

[Massimo Potente]

For 675 euros for an hour I would expect a victoria secret model.
It's 550 an hour.

Babylon's lineup nowadays is mostly known for the overall performance in the room and looks have become secondary, apparently. Babylon clients like to see the 550 as a compensation for the experience rather than a "who can I fuck for how much" debate.

But most of us are not in that circle of guys for who spending 550 per lady is an option. But those people exist and they want it to be expensive as they are not looking for deals in my opinion but rather for exclusivity. I know a few guys who will stop going to Babylon if the price would drop and every normal guy would frequent it like, say, FT, FP or even Maxim.

That said, I think the Babylon model still makes sense for those who can afford and those who can't have other options.

Little trivia sent your way: Babylon is in the process of eliminating Romanian girls from the lineup therefore potentially eliminating also some of the best-looking ladies in the world. This is a sacrifice clearly made to better their overall image.

[Jonn89]

Visited Wellcum over the weekend after quite some time. The overall lineup was pretty good but not as great as I remember it being. I saw girls who are former Goldentime, Babylon and Maxim workers such as Andra so there were a few girls who I know have a Vienna background. The atmosphere in Wellcum was very nice, but as a Vienna regular I feel I can get better service here in Wien. I suppose the regulars get better service than strangers so they are pretty even in that regard. Big difference is that a room is always 70 in Wellcum and not 100 like in Goldentime.

I also have to say that the atmosphere in Wellcum on a weekend is unbeatable. The DJ makes for great fun and the girls like to play along. They demand the music from the DJ to keep the heat going and thus making the whole place more alive. But I feel that this is easier done with an Italian crowd rather than an Austrian one. Reports of my girl encounters while in Wellcum will follow in my next post soon.

[Chubzy Maximus]

I visited Babylon in Vienna and was totally not impressed, and therefore did not partake. When I arrived, they told me there was no entrance fee, but they did have a "consumables" requirement of 100 Euros. That is, for paying 100 Euros upon departure it was all the alcohol I could drink. In my way of thinking, that is indeed an "entrance fee". Anything I am required to pay in order to patronize the premises is such in my view, regardless of what they want to call it, and whether I pay it literally upon entry, or when I leave. Nothing but playing games!

OK, so what about pricing for and quality of the line-up? Well, here is where this place really, really missed the mark for me. If I recall the pricing correctly (those of you in the know please correct me), it was like 500 Euros for half an hour with one of the girls, and around 675 Euros for an hour! Those are some really high prices for a monger like me, who typically rolls with a nice budget. But if I'm going to pay that kind of money, the girls better be fine as hell and model quality. Well, the ones who were there when I went absolutely were not! I mean plenty of plain Janes and not one I would fuck for that kind of money! Not a single one! I may be a little off on the prices because its been awhile, but I know I'm in the ballpark.Hey,

Thanks for sharing your experience. I do agree with you. Vienna is a beautiful city with great people. For those of us who have to go for work, would you be able to give some of your thoughts as to how Babylon compares to GT or funplast if you visited these establishments?

Thanks.

[The Cane]

Thank you for the detailed answer. I really appreciate it.

Usually I monger in Switzerland. If I compare the prices with Clubs around Zurich is that quite a difference. For 675 euros for an hour I would expect a victoria secret model.

We'll probably take a look and then decide.At least Club Globe had some hot girls when I went there, and I know from direct experience they know how to do "the nasty" real, real good haha! Would go to Globe over Babylon Vienna any day of the week since the former had me walking around with a constant boner LOL! If Massimo says it's 550 per hour, then OK. Maybe I was adding on the 100 entrance fee to the total. I usually do a much better job with remembering prices because I write everything down and keep the info. I did not do that this time because I decided not to spend time writing up a mongering-related field report on Austria as the place just didn't do it for me mongering-wise. But if you otherwise want to just relax in a first world place all the way around with everything you could possibly need to have a nice vacation, then Austria is it. But go to Germany, Switzerland, or even Spain for some top notch mongering. And if you can make it, do go to Brazil!

[Howie]

Visited Wellcum over the weekend.....Reports of my girl encounters while in Wellcum will follow in my next post soon.Hey Jonn89,

Did you see Angie and/or Mirabella there? Also newcomer Adelina. Going to hit Wellcum again soon and hoping all three are there.

Thanks. Howie.

[The Cane]

Hey,

Thanks for sharing your experience. I do agree with you. Vienna is a beautiful city with great people. For those of us who have to go for work, would you be able to give some of your thoughts as to how Babylon compares to GT or funplast if you visited these establishments?

Thanks.I did go to GT and Funpalast and preferred them both over Babylon. They are both in the German FKK-style model. I liked GT best, but still, both were lacking in a satisfactory number of hot girls per my tastes. I went with tall, blonde (probably not natural) Turkish (so they said) prostitutes at each place. The sessions were fine, but the tute at GT tried to rip me off! Wish I could remember her name (again, did not take notes this time).

Anyway, before going to the room we agreed on an hour with straight, anal, and BBBJ / CIM services for 300 euros total. A bit on the high side, but OK. It was all good, and ended up exploding in her mouth (she took it all) after straight and anal sex. Got back to the lockers where I gave her the 300 euros and she comes asking for like 370! I said we agreed on 300 and I wasn't paying her anything more. She said for the BBBJ / CIM it was extra. Again I said no damn way (cooly), and that I knew what we had agreed upon. She said, well give her 30 euros more as a tip. Again, I cooly refused and calmly walked away. Why can't these tutes just be honest? Damn!

Saw her a little while later in the shower (guys and gals can share at GT), and she said she was still waiting for her tip. I just ignored her but thought to myself that she was just going to be waiting forever then! Again. Why can't these prostitutes just be honest? A deal is a deal! I got what I wanted and paid what I agreed to pay, which was a tidy sum for her 1 hour of good work. A deal is a deal. I kept my end of the bargain. Now keep yours!

By the way, I also visited Maxim too and liked it. A bit pricey when you consider you have to throw in for drinks. But, that Romanian brunette was young and cute and had a killer body. She giggled and said it tickled her when I was munching her clean arsehole out HAHAHA!

[Massimo Potente]

If Massimo says it's 550 per hour, then OK. Maybe I was adding on the 100 entrance fee to the total.The 100 are waived if you go to the room and spend the 550. So an hour is 550 and food and drinks are included whatever much you consume.

[Massimo Potente]

Hey,

Thanks for sharing your experience. I do agree with you. Vienna is a beautiful city with great people. For those of us who have to go for work, would you be able to give some of your thoughts as to how Babylon compares to GT or funplast if you visited these establishments?

Thanks.Comparing Babylon to FP and vice versa is a waste of time. Sorry.

[Delta Indigo]

Comparing Babylon to FP and vice versa is a waste of time. Sorry.I have never been to Babylon and would never pay that much. However I have been to Funpalast 3 times and honestly I never thought it was so bad. On average the service is better than Goldentime now, in the past GT service was a lot better, but now even the regulars agree that they are subject to upselling and have to pay more than 60 Euros most of the time, am I right Massimo?

What I don't like about Funpalast is that it is not fully nude, but neither is Maxim, GT has a much better lineup, but even GT has some chubby and ugly girls. Funpalast has some nice girls the place is spacious and has decent food, service is usually pretty good here but not always.

Funpalast is nicer than many clubs I have seen in Germany that people like, Acapulco, Samya (which is tiny) and so on. I have seen many german clubs with much worse lineups too, Funpalast usually has some nice girls.

Why do you guys hate it so much?

[Massimo Potente]

Why do you guys hate it so much?I for one didn't say that I hate it at all. But I totally disagree with your assessment on pretty much every level.

What I did say is that the comparison is a waste of time because it is a different system, price level, clientele and girls level. Apples and Oranges or not even.

Babylon is a highend business level club for celebrities and politicians among other visitors. The notaries and lawyers and accountants do their networking there. There just isn't gounds for a comparison.

You can say that you have a great time at FP and I believe you. But I personally think that debating which of the 2 (or 3 if GT is in the mix) is better is nonsensical. But knock yourself out if you see grounds for it.

[Jonn89]

Did you see Angie and/or Mirabella there? Also newcomer Adelina. Going to hit Wellcum again soon and hoping all three are there.I have mistakenly posted my Wellcum report here in the Vienna section but its already reported and hopefully it will be deleted soon. I posted it in the correct section as well where I will continue to report.

Maybe I saw the girls you mentioned but I don't remember the names. But I remember Adelina. She is one of the girls I will be writing about in my upcoming post. In the Other Areas section this time of course.

[The Cane]

The 100 are waived if you go to the room and spend the 550. So an hour is 550 and food and drinks are included whatever much you consume.OK, but I have to say that the food on offer was pretty weak. The best thing about it was the all the alcohol you can drink for 100 euros.

[Pistons]

I for one didn't say that I hate it at all. But I totally disagree with your assessment on pretty much every level.

What I did say is that the comparison is a waste of time because it is a different system, price level, clientele and girls level. Apples and Oranges or not even.

Babylon is a highend business level club for celebrities and politicians among other visitors. The notaries and lawyers and accountants do their networking there. There just isn't gounds for a comparison.

You can say that you have a great time at FP and I believe you. But I personally think that debating which of the 2 (or 3 if GT is in the mix) is better is nonsensical. But knock yourself out if you see grounds for it.Seen several lawyers, accountants etc etc in every single one of the big German clubs. I suppose politicians needs to keep it a bit more secret, but an accountant? Really? Austria sounds so different from where I live.

Also, how is the girls level different? You mean by what they offer in the room? Or their looks? Because the 3 ex Babylon girls I've met were hardly more than 8 for looks. One was perhaps just a 7 for me.

[Massimo Potente]

Austria sounds so different from where I live.

Also, how is the girls level different? You mean by what they offer in the room? Or their looks? Because the 3 ex Babylon girls I've met were hardly more than 8 for looks. One was perhaps just a 7 for me.Austria is not different only because you guys don't know or understand the concept of Babylon.

Girls in Babylon obey certain rules as to how clients must be treated. Customer is KING there and isn't at the FKKs and particularly not at FP.

The food there is definitely great, too. Cane, you probably just got appetizers or something.

[The Cane]

Austria is not different only because you guys don't know or understand the concept of Babylon.Excuse me, but I absolutely do understand the concept of Babylon. I understand it, and I also understand that they aren't pulling it off! If you're going to charge that kind of money, then you darn well better have some attractive women up in there. They don't, at least not when I went. Not ugly I would say, but just a collection of "plain Jane's" as I call them. Now, no need for you to go on and on trying to defend the place, or for me or anybody else going on and on beating it up. We ought to just move on because it's the kind of place where you're either going to like it or not. No in between. I don't like it because I don't see value there for my money. Pretentious and overstated. Suggest we just move on.

[MonSooner]

Excuse me, but I absolutely do understand the concept of Babylon. I understand it, and I also understand that they aren't pulling it off.The was I see it Massimo stepped in because Babylon seems to be pictured the wrong way here repeatedly. Let's not forget that with a cover of 100 Euro you get way more value there than at GT for example for the comparable 90 Euro entry fee.

After that of course the amount to pay the ladies differs greatly but that is just 2 systems that shouldn't be compared anyway. If 550 is too much (it is for most guys including me most of the time) for you then they are still pulling it off without you. With respect to Babylon's history and present position in the sex market many guys just don't have the Intel to make an objective assessment. Also beauty is not the only variable that defines the line-up of a high-scale establishment like be. To all intents and purposes, I also recommend to not seek comparison between an FKK and Babylon. And more so don't compare FP with it.

That's all from me, over and out!

[James124]

A bit of diversion from big names. Tried Studio Relaxe Lounge which turned out to be a total disaster.

Was promised for all services as mentioned on their website, I confirmed after reaching there again.

Engaged services for one hour and paid the full price, however within few minutes girl told me she is not going to do what she promised outside.

As I did not finish in first few minutes she literally went mad. As it was not working as per her crooked plan!

She said she can not wait more than 5 minutes if I do not finish. And Alas. I was about to. But after her behavior. I could not. She left. !!

And of course complaints to the housekeeper received all very well prepared answers.

My request to all do not fall into this Trap and avoid this place. There are many better studios and houses here.

Wish you a very Happy Sexpedition!

[Zorp 001]

A bit of diversion from big names. Tried Studio Relaxe Lounge which turned out to be a total disaster.

Was promised for all services as mentioned on their website, I confirmed after reaching there again.

Engaged services for one hour and paid the full price, however within few minutes girl told me she is not going to do what she promised outside.

As I did not finish in first few minutes she literally went mad. As it was not working as per her crooked plan!

She said she can not wait more than 5 minutes if I do not finish. And Alas. I was about to. But after her behavior. I could not. She left. !!

And of course complaints to the housekeeper received all very well prepared answers.

My request to all do not fall into this Trap and avoid this place. There are many better studios and houses here.

Wish you a very Happy Sexpedition!Sorry to hear about your bad experience, but unfortunately something like this can happen anytime and if you go to a cheaper studio that offers AO, you should consider bad service as a possibility. With a low price for AO often comes the fact that the girls probably won't do such a good job and are not as service-oriented as in higher prices establishments.

[Delizog]

Hi all,

I used to live in Vienna and I have had a few visits at GT in the past when I was still innocent and unaware of the forum but I have been away for over 2 years.

I will be visiting this December and was looking forward to Goldentime but I am increasingly concerned about the upselling situation.

I am not in my element in a FKK and I am pushing myself already so to have to "negotiate" rates sounds a bit out there.

I read a lot about extra for OWO and DFK. Can I have only the DFK and how much upsell should I calculate? €20?

Also if I go for the full hour does this include OWO and DFK or they are still extra?

[Delizog]

2 nights in hands. Had 5 shortlisted. All off KM site.

Night 2 my top of list. An amateur who does it for "fun" wants minimum 3 hours booking. And wine. WOW. Probably the best paid sex I've had in years. Wild child, definitely loves sex Hi Neman Lion,

Can you please advise who this lady is and how to find her?

[Delta Indigo]

Austria is not different only because you guys don't know or understand the concept of Babylon.

Girls in Babylon obey certain rules as to how clients must be treated. Customer is KING there and isn't at the FKKs and particularly not at FP.

The food there is definitely great, too. Cane, you probably just got appetizers or something.I don't want to discuss Babylon, I certainly had good times in GT prior to 2012 and even a year ago. I have been in GT numerous times and FP only 3 times in the last few years.

I did get the feeling that FP was better for service nowadays, especially with all the reports of upselling at GT.

And contrary to previous reports, this does apply increasingly to locals as well.

So why the comment that the customer is especially not king at FP, when he really is not at all king at GT with all the upselling? Off course the lineup at GT is way better, but the service?

[Massimo Potente]

So why the comment that the customer is especially not king at FP, when he really is not at all king at GT with all the upselling? Off course the lineup at GT is way better, but the service?It was related to Babylon's treatment of the customers compared to FKKs.

[Diet Coke]

A bit of diversion from big names. Tried Studio Relaxe Lounge which turned out to be a total disaster.

Was promised for all services as mentioned on their website, I confirmed after reaching there again.

Engaged services for one hour and paid the full price, however within few minutes girl told me she is not going to do what she promised outside.

As I did not finish in first few minutes she literally went mad. As it was not working as per her crooked plan!

She said she can not wait more than 5 minutes if I do not finish. And Alas. I was about to. But after her behavior. I could not. She left. !!

And of course complaints to the housekeeper received all very well prepared answers.

My request to all do not fall into this Trap and avoid this place. There are many better studios and houses here.

Wish you a very Happy Sexpedition!As others have posted-who was the girl?

Their website lists:

Included in my price.

"Two-sided NATURFRANZSISCH, traffic in the hottest positions, repeated coming possible, common showering, massage, kisses with tongue, breast erotic, finger play, dildo games & Algierfranz. With me, facesitting, striptease. ".

What services did you receive?

Any location can always provide a poor experience. Reading a German forum I do not see similar warnings but sad to hear of your visit.

[Arnold15]

On a work-travel to Vienna, I visited FP twice. Had not been there for 2 years. Two years ago, entry was raised to 90 Euro with the consequences of less clients and girls. So I did not visit Vienna for a long time.

New price structure:

* 80 euro in entry, but including a coupon worth 60 Euro for the first half hour. So real entry is 20 Euro.

* Food and drinks cost extra. Only water is free. But the restaurant is run by an external firm. Efficiency has increased. A good meal costs 9-15 Euro, a fanta 4 Euro.

* 5 Euro for 2 extra towels.

* The coupon is only worth 50 Euro for the girls. So the club "steal" 10 Euro from the girls from this coupon.

* Otherwise, prices for room services are not changed.

4 sessions during 2 (half) days. 3 great and 1 bad.

Clarissa (Greece) and Ella (Romania) highly recommended.

The total result at FP after the new price structure?

Excellent!

1) Much better quality of the food (also compared to GT).

2) A day at FP, now costs 40-50 Euro less for the clients.

3) Significantly more clients. Especially more clients who stay for short or medium periods (2-5 hours) at the club.

4) Significantly more girls, who can earn more money (since more clients).

Only negative aspect:

No girl wants to work early. Such girls will only receive "coupons" as payment and lose 10 Euro per room. Most girls turn up after 15-16 in the afternoon.

I will definitely visit this club more times.

The cost per day (including food and drinks) was 170-180 Euro.

[Arnold15]

I have never been to Babylon and would never pay that much. However I have been to Funpalast 3 times and honestly I never thought it was so bad. On average the service is better than Goldentime now, in the past GT service was a lot better, but now even the regulars agree that they are subject to upselling and have to pay more than 60 Euros most of the time, am I right Massimo?

What I don't like about Funpalast is that it is not fully nude, but neither is Maxim, GT has a much better lineup, but even GT has some chubby and ugly girls. Funpalast has some nice girls the place is spacious and has decent food, service is usually pretty good here but not always.

Funpalast is nicer than many clubs I have seen in Germany that people like, Acapulco, Samya (which is tiny) and so on. I have seen many german clubs with much worse lineups too, Funpalast usually has some nice girls.

Why do you guys hate it so much?Because some people like to pay 500 Euro for a service that you can receive for 60 Euro at another club (FP).

Or they have some kind of sexual fetish of being up-selled (at GT).

If you look at my recent report, it is obvious that these persons' reports about FP are "fake news".

I have visited +20 different FKK-sauna-clubs in Germany, so I know what I am talking about.

Fun-Palast has really become better.

[Massimo Potente]

If you look at my recent report, it is obvious that these persons' reports about FP are "fake news".
Thank you for your input!

Personally, I am pretty sure they aren't fake at all. FP has become cheaper as a parachute to survive. Had they become better they wouldn't have been forced to install the coupon system to begin with. The hygiene has not improved. Food has but now seeing that you have to pay for it, you needn't compare it to GT's food (which isn't good) or Babylon's food (which is outstanding) but to a normal restaurant instead. So, Food at FP was never good when it was free and now it is ok when you pay for it.

Here is an actual and factual example why comparing FP to any other of the clubs is not working: the same girl has worked Babylon Klagenfurt and Babylon Vienna, Wellcum (not in Vienna), Globe (not even in Austria), Maxim, GT and Funpalast. FP is the only place to which she appears with her hair not washed and her nails not done and nobody of the management will notice or care. Yes, there are more girls at FP now and more new girls there now, too. And it makes sense to go there every once in a while to check out what is new, I do it just as well. But girls go as they come. And there is way more to say critically if one wanted to discuss how girls come to work for a day and leave after a day but this isn't the place to give a philosophy lecture or an insight into the prostitution law.

If a club decides to disrupt the market by giving coupons away it is not likely that any real improvement can ever come out of there. Yes, total number of customers has grown significantly but to what end? This adds nothing to an aching market.

I am also critical of the other clubs because they have not at all dealt with FP's change of system as they should've early last year. I think they didn't take it seriously or something. But maybe I am too far removed with my own porfession to still understand the inner thinking of brothel managers.

One more thought. "Especially more clients who stay for short or medium periods (2-5 hours) at the club. " I am one of them and now I spend less time and less money at FP as I ever did before. I leave early because at later hours, particularly on the weekend, the atmosphere at FP has become predictably unbearable in my POV. The money that I spend less at FP now, I spend more at other places.

Arnold15, maybe it would be helpful to mention the names of the girls who you sessioned with and had a good time with and also point out the one bad apple for people to avoid her.

[Delta Indigo]

Thank you for your input!

Personally, I am pretty sure they aren't fake at all. FP has become cheaper as a parachute to survive. Had they become better they wouldn't have been forced to install the coupon system to begin with. The hygiene has not improved. Food has but now seeing that you have to pay for it, you needn't compare it to GT's food (which isn't good) or Babylon's food (which is outstanding) but to a normal restaurant instead. So, Food at FP was never good when it was free and now it is ok when you pay for it.

Here is an actual and factual example why comparing FP to any other of the clubs is not working: the same girl has worked Babylon Klagenfurt and Babylon Vienna, Wellcum (not in Vienna), Globe (not even in Austria), Maxim, GT and Funpalast. FP is the only place to which she appears with her hair not washed and her nails not done and nobody of the management will notice or care. Yes, there are more girls at FP now and more new girls there now, too. And it makes sense to go there every once in a while to check out what is new, I do it just as well. But girls go as they come. And there is way more to say critically if one wanted to discuss how girls come to work for a day and leave after a day but this isn't the place to give a philosophy lecture or an insight into the prostitution law.

If a club decides to disrupt the market by giving coupons away it is not likely that any real improvement can ever come out of there. Yes, total number of customers has grown significantly but to what end? This adds nothing to an aching market.

I am also critical of the other clubs because they have not at all dealt with FP's change of system as they should've early last year. I think they didn't take it seriously or something. But maybe I am too far removed with my own porfession to still understand the inner thinking of brothel managers.

One more thought. "Especially more clients who stay for short or medium periods (2-5 hours) at the club. " I am one of them and now I spend less time and less money at FP as I ever did before. I leave early because at later hours, particularly on the weekend, the atmosphere at FP has become predictably unbearable in my POV. The money that I spend less at FP now, I spend more at other places.

Arnold15, maybe it would be helpful to mention the names of the girls who you sessioned with and had a good time with and also point out the one bad apple for people to avoid her.I think this is a good answer to explain your point of view, which I had not fully grasped. The girls do look cleaner at GT now that you mention it, I had not thought of that before, but the FP girls I have been with were clean.

About the late night atmosphere, I have never been there that long, into the late night, so I did not experience it, however when I first visited FP in 2013, some Austrian guys there were complaining about the atmosphere and clientelle at GT, I am not saying they were right, but these complaints happen at all FKKs.

Let me ask you one question, I do understand your point of view now and agree with a lot of it, however what is the second best FKK / Saunaclub in Vienna? I would always choose GT first, however all the reports of upselling has put me off a bit.

[Zorp 001]

The hygiene has not improved.
* 5 Euro for 2 extra towels.This might be one of the reasons why hygiene hasn't improved.

[Arnold15]

I already mentioned Clarissa (Greece), 1 session, and Ella (Romania), 2 sessions.

I would have sessioned Clarissa once more if she had been available.

Note that these 2 girls may not be demanded by some men. I prefer at least (6-8) good looking, but with "calm personality" and good service attitude much more important.

Real bad: Mia (Romania). Wanted to have payment before room, "do not do this or that", after happy ending she said suddenly "goodbye" and went out of room, etc.

I was not even angry. I only laughed. Next day, she wanted another session, not understanding that the first was awful.

However, none of the girls were "unwashed".

For both Clarissa and Ella, I had to wait 20-30 minutes when they prepared themselves in the ladies room.

The system with coupons will soon be exported to Germany. Competition between clubs is fierce in Germany. I consider this as a good innovative idea rather than disrupting the market. In a free market, firms can use any entry fee strategy and observe which one works best.

Also outsourcing of restaurant to external firms in other clubs = increased efficiency. Now, you can decide how long you stay and how much you consume. Earlier you had to stay the whole day - otherwise entry fee would have been a big loss.

Food, I compare with other FKK:s in Germany. And it is good now at FP.


Thank you for your input!

Personally, I am pretty sure they aren't fake at all. FP has become cheaper as a parachute to survive. Had they become better they wouldn't have been forced to install the coupon system to begin with. The hygiene has not improved. Food has but now seeing that you have to pay for it, you needn't compare it to GT's food (which isn't good) or Babylon's food (which is outstanding) but to a normal restaurant instead. So, Food at FP was never good when it was free and now it is ok when you pay for it.

Here is an actual and factual example why comparing FP to any other of the clubs is not working: the same girl has worked Babylon Klagenfurt and Babylon Vienna, Wellcum (not in Vienna), Globe (not even in Austria), Maxim, GT and Funpalast. FP is the only place to which she appears with her hair not washed and her nails not done and nobody of the management will notice or care. Yes, there are more girls at FP now and more new girls there now, too. And it makes sense to go there every once in a while to check out what is new, I do it just as well. But girls go as they come. And there is way more to say critically if one wanted to discuss how girls come to work for a day and leave after a day but this isn't the place to give a philosophy lecture or an insight into the prostitution law.

If a club decides to disrupt the market by giving coupons away it is not likely that any real improvement can ever come out of there. Yes, total number of customers has grown significantly but to what end? This adds nothing to an aching market.

I am also critical of the other clubs because they have not at all dealt with FP's change of system as they should've early last year. I think they didn't take it seriously or something. But maybe I am too far removed with my own porfession to still understand the inner thinking of brothel managers.

One more thought. "Especially more clients who stay for short or medium periods (2-5 hours) at the club. " I am one of them and now I spend less time and less money at FP as I ever did before. I leave early because at later hours, particularly on the weekend, the atmosphere at FP has become predictably unbearable in my POV. The money that I spend less at FP now, I spend more at other places.

Arnold15, maybe it would be helpful to mention the names of the girls who you sessioned with and had a good time with and also point out the one bad apple for people to avoid her.

[Massimo Potente]

The system with coupons will soon be exported to Germany.I think it will the go into the history books as the day "when hell froze over". In all seriousness, I highly doubt that clubs like Sharks, Goldentime Brüggen in Germany, Artemis in Berlin, Palace in Frankfurt or even OASE and Mainhattan, which definitely have seen more successful days, will be desperate enough to do such a thing. They should rather seek to increase quality of things than fighting the low-budget game where everyone always only loses in the end.

[Massimo Potente]

but the FP girls I have been with were clean.And they aren't dirty. I hope it didn't sound like that. But they will not dress up for the coupon crowd. I couldn't believe it at first when it occured to me but it is undeniably true that the outfits differ greatly depending on where the very same lady is working.



Let me ask you one question, I do understand your point of view now and agree with a lot of it, however what is the second best FKK / Saunaclub in Vienna? I would always choose GT first, however all the reports of upselling has put me off a bit.FP is definitely second best if money and costs are not in the equation. Fresh is 3rd and there aren't more than those 3.

[Arnold15]

I think it will the go into the history books as the day "when hell froze over". In all seriousness, I highly doubt that clubs like Sharks, Goldentime Brggen in Germany, Artemis in Berlin, Palace in Frankfurt or even OASE and Mainhattan, which definitely have seen more successful days, will be desperate enough to do such a thing. They should rather seek to increase quality of things than fighting the low-budget game where everyone always only loses in the end.Low-budget game does not automatically mean that quality decreases.

1) In the case of FP, clients get more value for money than before.

2) Also the FP club seems to make more money than before (earlier "red figures" according to your reports).

3) And the girls can make more money. I spent much time talking with the girls about the new entry fee system. Everybody said it was better.

So all these three groups (clients, club and girls) at FP have benefitted from the new entry fee system.

Who has become the loser by introducing the new entry fee?

Correct answer: Other clubs in Vienna.

The clock is clinging for many clubs in Duesseldorf and Frankfurt.
Not for Artemis, since it has a "monopoly" in Berlin.

[Massimo Potente]

The clock is clinging for many clubs in Duesseldorf and Frankfurt.
Not for Artemis, since it has a "monopoly" in Berlin.Sharks is killing it for a bunch of years already without a monopoly of any kind. If anything they are only getting better.

Let's agree to disagree and let's see if any club in my list will need to do a similar thing. It would be a surprise to me but who I am to predict the future or the FKK landscape in Germany. I would accept quite a few wagers though. I like my chances on that bet.

GT has silently increased the half hour rate with the upselling and it seems to turn out fine for the girls. It's inconvenient for us but they hardly seem the loser in this low-budget game. Problably because they are not playing it.

[Pistons]

Heh, Artemis seems to fall due it lack of local competition actually. While the clubs that has more local competition is thriving.

If any coupon system would start to take over, it would need to be like the Macau sauna coupons. Not the Vienna style coupons. And I only see this happening if Germany and Austria removes physical currency and goes all digital.

I am not up to date on the cost at FP, but calling this game low cost in Vienna these days is in best case a distortion of truth. Low cost is Philippines or pattaya where you can bang a girl for 15 euro by having her come to your hotel. 150-200 for one session, entry cost included. As it is now at GT Vienna, it is ten times what I consider low cost. But of course, numbers are arbitrary. And humans normally compares one price to a price elsewhere of the same good.

Say you buy a flawless Yubari melon at a market in Japan, 1000 usd can sometimes be considered cheap. But if you see a cantaloupe melon in your local Aldi for 1000 usd, you double check your eyes to see if there is a comma in there.

[Massimo Potente]

Heh, Artemis seems to fall due it lack of local competition actually. While the clubs that has more local competition is thriving.

If any coupon system would start to take over, it would need to be like the Macau sauna coupons. Not the Vienna style coupons. And I only see this happening if Germany and Austria removes physical currency and goes all digital.

I am not up to date on the cost at FP, but calling this game low cost in Vienna these days is in best case a distortion of truth. Low cost is Philippines or pattaya where you can bang a girl for 15 euro by having her come to your hotel. 150-200 for one session, entry cost included. As it is now at GT Vienna, it is ten times what I consider low cost. But of course, numbers are arbitrary. And humans normally compares one price to a price elsewhere of the same good.

Say you buy a flawless Yubari melon at a market in Japan, 1000 usd can sometimes be considered cheap. But if you see a cantaloupe melon in your local Aldi for 1000 usd, you double check your eyes to see if there is a comma in there.I already know it is a mistake to engage in such conversation but hey, I'll try to play along one single time hopefully.

There is no such thing like a "Vienna style coupon". This is an FP idea (not the worst one almost a decade ago to do them monhtly, now it is an everyday thing) which came out of dire straits that they were in. For the longest time they wanted to be and stay a full functioning sauna club with all the mechanics of one including normal entry fee and normal half hour rates and drinks and food plus wellness amenities included. They couldn't maintain it and here we are debating. It was either shutting it down or lowering the price significantly.

Now, I find it far fetched to think that anything like that could "take over" since it is inherently wrong to pay a girl, prostitute, lady, person in coupons. Fair enough, they can exchange them into money, it's all good but of course they lost 10 right there. In addition to that the FP ladies now have to pay a higher entry fee than they ever did before. Fair enough, it is business, so it is all good.

The new entry fee system seems to attract a lot of new ladies which would seem to finally be a contribution that we could see as beneficial but how long do those ladies really stay in FP. There is an increasing number of girls who come to Vienna and start out at FP and Fresh, only waiting to be accepted to work at other clubs. It usually takes a week until they can wander off and so they often do. When you are drowning, keeping your head above the water is a clear success. Long term strategy might be a little more complicated and challenging.

I distance myself from the low-cost comparison made for Pattaya, Phillipines and cantaloupe and melon theories which do not apply to this market.

[MonSooner]

Might make sense to try understand what the girls want. Much like many of us, some ladies will prefer a smaller number of good (comfortable, easy and profitable) sessions. If possible paid cash and not paper. Even if at the end of the day sometimes more money can be made with the coupons, this might also mean more headache. We all speak to the ladies regularly. They are torn, there is no clear verdict whether this is a curse or the remedy. But I think generosity is going to be scoring points with them always.

[Triptogamont]

https://www.studiorelaxe-lounge.at/index.php?p=1_187_Antonia

Showed up around 6 pm on a weekday. Rang the bell and got buzzed in. Walked down a small flight of stairs to a desk and a small room with girls sitting in lingerie. Maybe six girls stood up in the main room to form a lineup for me. I chose Antonia based on nice body shape and smile. She's older in the face than what is on the website, bit otherwise pics are accurate.

She led me to a room and I asked about Naturservice. She said it would be 20€ extra, just like it says on the website. I paid for a half hour, so 90€ total and she left the room. It was a small room with a bed and a standup shower. I got naked and would have gotten in the shower, bit there were no towels. She came back in a couple of minutes and gave me a towel. I took a quick shower while we chatted and she put a sheet on the bed. Her English is pretty good so it was easy to talk with her.

Onto the bed where we kissed lightly. Really just pecks, so no DFK. She has absolutely fantastic skin. Super smooth and silky. I loved running my hands over her the entire time. She started a decent BBBJ. Good with her tongue, but no eye contact. I had her get on top for some CG. My hands and mouth all over her breasts, which are very nice. And that skin! Flipped for mish. Flipped again for K9. Finished with a nice CIP.

We relaxed and talked for a while afterward. Both showered. She didn't seem to be in any rush. Got a hug and a kiss and was out the door in maybe 35-40 minutes total.

I guess it's sort of like an RTC session in NRW. Only twice as expensive, if you include entry fees at RTCs. I don't think you hang out there for any length of time. Just get in and out. I could be wrong.

[Pistons]

MP: you didn't really add anything new there though, hehe.

You could have written down the new prices. Aside from that, it seems we agree on everything. Even the coupon system. We just weigh our words differently. So it ends up being just rethorics.

[Triptogamont]

https://www.studiorelaxe-lounge.at/index.php?p=1_206_Julia

Had a little bit of time to kill, so I figured I would try another girl here. I would have liked to try Studio Relaxe and La Chica, but this place was the easiest for me to get to.

I picked Julia out of a lineup of maybe 8 girls for her slim figure and pretty face. Same deal as last time. 70 for a half hour, plus 20 for Naturservice mit Reinspritzen.

She looks just like her pics. Pecks for kisses. BBBJ was average at best. BBFS was good, bit she used a bit too much lube. She's a pretty small girl, so maybe she does that to prevent pain. Made it through the usual positions until I finished CIP in K9. An average session with a pretty girl. I wouldn't repeat.

[Diet Coke]

https://www.studiorelaxe-lounge.at/index.php?p=1_206_Julia

Had a little bit of time to kill, so I figured I would try another girl here. I would have liked to try Studio Relaxe and La Chica, but this place was the easiest for me to get to.

I picked Julia out of a lineup of maybe 8 girls for her slim figure and pretty face. Same deal as last time. 70 for a half hour, plus 20 for Naturservice mit Reinspritzen.

She looks just like her pics. Pecks for kisses. BBBJ was average at best. BBFS was good, bit she used a bit too much lube. She's a pretty small girl, so maybe she does that to prevent pain. Made it through the usual positions until I finished CIP in K9. An average session with a pretty girl. I wouldn't repeat.Thanks for the 2 reports. I have been researching Vienna here and on a German board. Julia was one I was considering. Did you have any trouble with language? Webpage says little German. I know Naturservice mit Reinspritzen means AO and I tried to translate on google, came out as Natural service with clean spray. Keeps the reports coming. Are you trying any of the Asian places, such as http://www.studio-jasmin.at? Price seems good at those but many German board reports of mostly fake pics and much older ladies.

[Arnold15]

No, entry fees for girls at FP has not changed. I asked very carefully about this at my last visit.

Before coupon system, girls paid 90 Euro in entry fee.

With new coupon susyem, girls pay also 90 Euro in entry fee.

Yes, girls lose 10 Euro for client's first room.

But there are 2-3 times more clients now. So girls are definitely better off.

When James Watt introduced the steam machinery in the 18th century, those ineffcient workers who lost their jobs, called this "disrupting the market". But everyone else understand that this was an innovative idea raising the overall welfare.

The point with the innovative Coupon system at FP is that all three groups (clients, club and girls) at FP have benefitted from the new entry fee system!


I already know it is a mistake to engage in such conversation but hey, I'll try to play along one single time hopefully.

There is no such thing like a "Vienna style coupon". This is an FP idea (not the worst one almost a decade ago to do them monhtly, now it is an everyday thing) which came out of dire straits that they were in. For the longest time they wanted to be and stay a full functioning sauna club with all the mechanics of one including normal entry fee and normal half hour rates and drinks and food plus wellness amenities included. They couldn't maintain it and here we are debating. It was either shutting it down or lowering the price significantly.

Now, I find it far fetched to think that anything like that could "take over" since it is inherently wrong to pay a girl, prostitute, lady, person in coupons. Fair enough, they can exchange them into money, it's all good but of course they lost 10 right there. In addition to that the FP ladies now have to pay a higher entry fee than they ever did before. Fair enough, it is business, so it is all good.

The new entry fee system seems to attract a lot of new ladies which would seem to finally be a contribution that we could see as beneficial but how long do those ladies really stay in FP. There is an increasing number of girls who come to Vienna and start out at FP and Fresh, only waiting to be accepted to work at other clubs. It usually takes a week until they can wander off and so they often do. When you are drowning, keeping your head above the water is a clear success. Long term strategy might be a little more complicated and challenging.

I distance myself from the low-cost comparison made for Pattaya, Phillipines and cantaloupe and melon theories which do not apply to this market.

[MonSooner]

No, entry fees for girls at FP has not changed. I asked very carefully about this at my last visit.

Before coupon system, girls paid 90 Euro in entry fee.

With new coupon susyem, girls pay also 90 Euro in entry fee.!Not that it matters that much but I also think that the girls now pay a higher entry fee than they used to before the switch to the coupon system.

90 is higher than at GT and the amount that I was familiar with before was 70. But again, it really isn't that important in my opinion.

[Triptogamont]

Thanks for the 2 reports. I have been researching Vienna here and on a German board. Julia was one I was considering. Did you have any trouble with language? Webpage says little German. I know Naturservice mit Reinspritzen means AO and I tried to translate on google, came out as Natural service with clean spray. Keeps the reports coming. Are you trying any of the Asian places, such as http://www.studio-jasmin.at? Price seems good at those but many German board reports of mostly fake pics and much older ladies.Julia speaks very little English and only a little bit of German. I know enough German to get what I want, so it worked out ok. But there was no way to chat before or after. Yes, Naturservice = AO. Mit Reinspritzen = CIP. Julia looked good, but her service was average. I had more fun with Antonia, but again, her service was good, not great.

I was only in Vienna a few days and only had the chance to go have some fun those two times. If I had more time, I probably would have checked out Studio Relaxe and La Chica Lounge, but they were a bit harder for me to get to, involving longer you-bahn trips. I tend to steer clear of Asian places in the US and Europe, for exactly the reasons you specify. Good luck and enjoy!

[Zorp 001]

I'm wondering if anyone knows why Penelope is shown both on the Maxim and Peepshow Burggasse site at the same time. I remember she used to work in Peepshow about a month ago and now she appeared on the website again, while still being on the Maxim site. Does anyone have any ideas why this is the case?

The girl I'm talking about: https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/penelope.

[MonSooner]

Does anyone have any ideas why this is the case?

The girl I'm talking about: https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/penelope.I know she is an indecisive one for sure. She also told me that she likes all the places she worked at and maybe wants to switch from time to time. If the club's don't mind, no harm is done. She listed at the P.S. But with a day off. Means she probably is at Maxim right now.

[Arnold15]

Not that it matters that much but I also think that the girls now pay a higher entry fee than they used to before the switch to the coupon system.

90 is higher than at GT and the amount that I was familiar with before was 70. But again, it really isn't that important in my opinion.Yes, FP increased the entry fee for the girls from 70 to 90 Euro.

But that occurred when the club was bleeding money with the old system. Thus, before the coupon system was introduced.

[Massimo Potente]

I'm wondering if anyone knows why Penelope is shown both on the Maxim and Peepshow Burggasse site at the same time. I remember she used to work in Peepshow about a month ago and now she appeared on the website again, while still being on the Maxim site. Does anyone have any ideas why this is the case?

The girl I'm talking about: https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/penelope.She is currently at Maxim.

By now they seem to also have removed the pictures of her from the Peepshow.

[Liuliqiao]

I live in a place where sex for money is illegal. So, Vienna is a sex heaven for me.

Luckily, I found opportunities to visit Vienna a couple of times during the past several years. I have treasured my each visit.

I only visited Golden Time each time. However, Most girls were rush and hurried me to finish in 10 minutes, although I had good experience a couple of times.

I just could not figure out which lady would provide good service before go into the room.

I will visit Vienna for a few days.

Could someone please recommend escort agencies. I plan to have ladies to come over to my hotel and hope to have better experience this way.

Many thanks.

[BestBeer]

Julia speaks very little English and only a little bit of German. I know enough German to get what I want, so it worked out ok. But there was no way to chat before or after. Yes, Naturservice = AO. Mit Reinspritzen = CIP. Julia looked good, but her service was average. I had more fun with Antonia, but again, her service was good, not great.

I was only in Vienna a few days and only had the chance to go have some fun those two times. If I had more time, I probably would have checked out Studio Relaxe and La Chica Lounge, but they were a bit harder for me to get to, involving longer you-bahn trips. I tend to steer clear of Asian places in the US and Europe, for exactly the reasons you specify. Good luck and enjoy!I see you thinking about visiting La Chica Lounge.

Yes, I was last month. It takes a little walk if it is public transport, 600 meters from the nearest station or 7-8 minutes walk, nothing terrible.

I also do not know the German language, but when I went to the salon, all of them from receptionists to the present girls spoke English, not fluid but quite enough. An excellent salon, good care for guests, a pleasant feeling.

I was with a girl named Alexandra, real pictures, very nice girl, half an hour without any complaints (e70+ 10 for egg licking), natural service (AO) possible but I did not ask. After some sex with rubber, I took off a condom and she continue with oral, then I finish on her breast. I did not know that other possibilities were available, although she asked me. And you can get almost everything you want with the right supplement.

What I think is a bit expensive, but fair. Much better options than going to cheap studios where you do not get a fairly decent service.

Recommendation, yes.

Would I come again, yes.

[MonSooner]

What I have seen tonight at Maxim so far can only be described as whale watching. Few groups of obviously very wealthy guys blocking almost all the best girls. Lots of Champagne and drinking all around. I didn't exactly count but I think I see 20 girls and hardly any of them available. Bummer that I waited when I thought it was safe to do so. Hope Anna will be available again later as I wanted her and didn't confirm my interest thoroughly. If not I will go for Penelope again who I sessioned with already at P.S. Burggasse a while ago.

[Massimo Potente]

What I have seen tonight at Maxim so far can only be described as whale watching. Few groups of obviously very wealthy guys blocking almost all the best girls. Lots of Champagne and drinking all around. I didn't exactly count but I think I see 20 girls and hardly any of them available. Bummer that I waited when I thought it was safe to do so. Hope Anna will be available again later as I wanted her and didn't confirm my interest thoroughly. If not I will go for Penelope again who I sessioned with already at P.S. Burggasse a while ago.I wasn't anywhere this week but some of our clients in my firm said that it was hard to get good rooms at 5* hotels so this indicated that the whales are indeed in town this week. I am sure Babylon and Maxim are having a great week so far. Any good club for that matter should have great business in December.

[Zorp 001]

I wasn't anywhere this week but some of our clients in my firm said that it was hard to get good rooms at 5* hotels so this indicated that the whales are indeed in town this week. I am sure Babylon and Maxim are having a great week so far. Any good club for that matter should have great business in December.Vienna is extraordinary in December, especially around the Christmas holidays. I'm not surprised there are many wealthy clients in the bigger clubs. And I suppose this is how it will be until the new year.

I'm planning a trip to the city this month too. I will surely leave my findings and experiences here when I get back.

[Massimo Potente]

Vienna is extraordinary in December, especially around the Christmas holidays. I'm not surprised there are many wealthy clients in the bigger clubs. And I suppose this is how it will be until the new year.
Vienna is pretty great all year long. In the weeks before Christmas it's nice because of all the Christmas markets spread around the city and the lights everywhere. But wealthy business people are in the city all year. I feel that everywhere in the world people are in a spending mood when Christmas is around the corner. That is good for the clubs where spending is encouraged, so to speak. LOL.

[Newton York]

I'd consider myself a pretty experienced hobbyist, but I've never mongered in Austria, and I'm thinking Vienna's the best city to start. I'm a fan of large places with little rooms of individual girls, doesn't matter if it's outside like the red lights of Amsterdam, (Geylang in Singapore fits the bill too) or inside buildings like Bahnofvierstel, Frankfurt or showpark, Prague. I like the whole browsing aspect. The atmosphere. I'm ok with FKK's too. It's the whole more than one and done thing I like. What I'm not particularly fond of is the whole just one brothel, you sit and they show you a line up and you go at it and then leave setup. First, it might take one hell of a trip to get to said destination, if I'm going there then I'd like to stay more than just an hour or less. That also puts the bar brothel set up as a good thing for me too, cause I can just sit and chill with my drink after the event. I've gone thru the forum here going back quite a ways, and scoured the internet searching for info, and it'd be great if you guys can help me out. While there's a lot of info, specific stuff is tough to find. I know it's super annoying when only questions show up here instead of detailed reports, but I've done my fair share of contributing in the past (Prague, Bangkok, etc), reading through here, you guys are really experienced with this specific city and I could use some input. Whaddya say fellas? Help a fellow hobbyist out?

- What is the average price for the laufhauses? Can I get a full hour for 200 Euros or less?

- How much now for 1 hour in the FKK's without extras? 120 euros? Is BBBJ considered an extra in Austria?

- which escort agency would you say is the most reliable one?

- any particularly good independent escort you've had there?

- would you recommend taking a day to drop by Bratislava to try one of it's brothel / bars out?

- I did FKK Oase, Sharks and Mainhattan some time ago on my Frankfurt expedition, would you guys say in general that the Vienna area FKK's have more or less upselling than those?

[Darster]

I'd consider myself a pretty experienced hobbyist, but I've never mongered in Austria, and I'm thinking Vienna's the best city to start. I'm a fan of large places with little rooms of individual girls, doesn't matter if it's outside like the red lights of Amsterdam, (Geylang in Singapore fits the bill too) or inside buildings like Bahnofvierstel, Frankfurt or showpark, Prague. I like the whole browsing aspect. The atmosphere. I'm ok with FKK's too. It's the whole more than one and done thing I like. What I'm not particularly fond of is the whole just one brothel, you sit and they show you a line up and you go at it and then leave setup. First, it might take one hell of a trip to get to said destination, if I'm going there then I'd like to stay more than just an hour or less. That also puts the bar brothel set up as a good thing for me too, cause I can just sit and chill with my drink after the event. I've gone thru the forum here going back quite a ways, and scoured the internet searching for info, and it'd be great if you guys can help me out. While there's a lot of info, specific stuff is tough to find. I know it's super annoying when only questions show up here instead of detailed reports, but I've done my fair share of contributing in the past (Prague, Bangkok, etc), reading through here, you guys are really experienced with this specific city and I could use some input.I am in Vienna and I have visited today Daria from Laufhaus Ici Paris, the service was great and she has a super cool personality.

I am in Vienna till Tuesday and I will visit her again, I have seen some great looking girls in this laufhaus.

Another good place would be Laufhaus Vienna, BTW with Daria I have paid 140€ for 1 hour with BBBJ.

[Darster]

Hello,

So I was 2 days in row in FunPalast.

Sunday was much better with a lot more girls and clients, Monday much less girls and clients.

I had sessions with 3 different girls, for the first one I do not know her name.

Other girls are called Klaudia and Mary, they are sitting together with Ina right before you reach the showers and saunas.

All 3 sessions were really good but Klaudia is my favorite girl. Not just a great service provider and a great looking girl but also seems to have a cool personality.

I came back today on Monday to visit Klaudia and she was there, the service was even better than first day and she is able to do a good massage. She is my favourite girl in FunPalast, I didn't even look at other girls when I saw her.

She used to work at Babylon Salzburg, Sharks and Goldentime Vienna.

If anyone knows what Klaudia I am talking about, let me know your experience with her.

BTW FunPalast is not a bad place at all, I really loved it.

[JLifesOn]

So my first time mongering in Europe happened to be Vienna. Here is my report:

Monday night 12/10 went to Studio Relaxe at Stolberggasse 21. Chose Ella from Romania (I'm a sucker for tall ladies) for an hour + AO + Greek for a total of 150. Ella was splendid, and I had a great time with her, even though her English was just as bad as my German. She has an amazing giant natural pair. She seemed to enjoy herself as well, and seemed genuinely embarrassed that someone might hear her screams from outside the door. When I gave her a 20 as a tip at the end, she asked why I was giving her more money, as I had already paid her up front. It seemed she was not used to getting a tip, which was surprising to me since I thought it was common to tip.

Tuesday night 12/11 went to Cinderellas Palast at Wilhelminenstr. 46 hoping to see Lena, but I should have probably called ahead, as she was unavailable (or at least I wasn't sure, as the sign on her door was stuck between free and unavailable). So I chose Daniella from Romania instead, as I had seen that she had pretty good reviews on booksusi. 1 hour + AO for 120. Daniella certainly lived up to her reviews. She is pretty, but her breasts are silicon. She was very into it, and wouldn't let me leave before our time was done. Great girl.

Wednesday evening 12/12 at about 9 PM took my first splash at an FKK with a trip to GT. There is nothing that can prepare you for the first time at such an establishment. My eyes literally popped out of my head due to the dozens of ladies walking around in high heels only. I actually missed the locker room and got yelled at by the lady at the front desk because I was walking in fully dressed, as I was completely distracted by a gorgeous tall lady. I barely got out of the locker room when this tall lady approached me and asked me in English if this was my first time there. She offered to show me around, and we got a drink and headed back to a quieter spot, as the place was full and quite crowded. Her name is Marta from Romania, and I took her to a room for 1 hour at 120. Had an amazing session with her and chatted a bit too. She was really great. Silicon breasts though.

After that I went to the bar, having to tell every girl that approached me that I was in no condition for another session until I recover. Perhaps it was because I was alone, but the ladies there constantly approached me, trying to get me to take them to a room either alone or with a friend for a duo. Interestingly enough, it seems that all of them spoke decent English, and didn't even try to speak to me in German. I even commented about this to one of the Austrian guys there, who was also talking to the girls in English!

One really beautiful girl (though she too had silicon breasts) who approached me was sweet and said she understood that I wasn't ready to go to a room (I was up front with this to all the girls that approached me) but that she just wanted to talk, so we went to the Kino which was the quietest place there, and talked for about 15 minutes. Her name is Senya and she is from Moscow. Later on when I was feeling up to it I found her and took her to a room for 30 minutes, however once in the room she was constantly trying to upsell me, and when I said that I wasn't interested in extras, she seemed quite disappointed. She literally wouldn't let me touch her anywhere with my mouth saying that I said I wasn't interested in kissing for 40 extra. I eventually caved and said I would add 40 for kissing, but by then the mood wasn't really great. She wasn't terrible, but it was overall kind of disappointing.

After some more time at the bar, I eventually sessioned with another beauty from Romania, though I'm not sure I remember her name. I think it was Natasha, but I'm not sure. She came onto me (quite literally sat on me) while I was relaxing in the Kino, and tried seducing me saying she would blow me there for 150. I laughed and said no way 150, only 60, whereas she said, OK 80, but when I laughed and said no, she said OK 60, but in the Kino. I refused and said I was only interested in a full session in a room, to which she finally agreed. The session with her was actually pretty good, and she didn't try to upsell once in the room. She too had silicon breasts though.

Overall the atmosphere at GT is electrifying, at least to someone who has never been to an FKK, and for that at least it was completely worth it.

Thursday afternoon 12/13 I scheduled a 1 hour session with Evi from Club Doreen (have I mentioned I'm a sucker for tall ladies?) for 150, which was kind of a challenge, as she doesn't speak English, and my German is really bad. I arrived and was greeted by a beautiful lady, the tallest I have seen in a long time. She claims she is 192 cm barefoot, however I think she is taller, as I am 197 cm and she was barely a couple of cm shorter. Evi was simply amazing. She was the most fantastic lady I have had in a long time, even with the language barrier. The best hour of my trip, which actually lasted 70 minutes, and I barely made it to my flight back home. I just wish she wouldn't have gotten silicon implants.

Overall a fantastic time in Vienna.