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Massimo Potente
10-27-23, 13:14
Maxim used to have visiting porn stars on occasion. Several years ago, before she became famous, I had an opportunity to spend quality time with Little Caprice. Just a little more expensive than the standard Maxim cost. There was a blonde Euro porn star sometime later, but never connected with her. Forgot her name as well!That definitely was a different time in Vienna, in which Porn actresses from the neighbouring countries like Hungary, Slovakia and Czech Rep used to regularly come to Vienna to better their budgets. But since the situation in their main cities has improved considerably, I think, they have good money-making opportinities locally as well. I don't think real pornstars will find their way here as regularly as before.

Massimo Potente
10-27-23, 13:25
I see the lineup in Maxim is really getting better. Sibel looks interesting, and I see some already know her here. Can you describe the experience?

I'm into PSE and would be very happy if there's a girl that's even close to Kendra in terms of experience and attitude.Line-up is not bad at all now, but it was great like 2-3 weeks ago.

Sibel is a typical young girl that is very attractive and knows it, therefore her level varies tbh. The way I observed it in the past year she was touring from studio and Peepshow, to clubs and back. Personally, I had only good experiences with her but you know how it is with regulars at certain clubs. YMMV and I usually recommend a girl only after also friends or business partners of mine confirm my opinion. So, I can carefully recommend her judging from feedback that I had recently got from a client I brought to Maxim. What I can say is that one year ago, kissing was not in her repertoire and now it seems she is more open-minded about that. Everything else is very good. Hygience, looks and cuteness are all top-notch.

But I would still recommend Bella and Ariana over Sibel. But they are different types of women and should maybe not be compared directly. It doesn't get better than Ariana in my opinion. She is not in Vienna, though, at the moment.

MonSooner
10-27-23, 21:03
Comparing Kendra to other girls is not easy. With Kendra you have a party girl probably in her Forties who has but one goal and that is to please the client. And she has fun and orgasms in the process. But put her next to Sibel and Ariana and most clients won't consider Kendra at all. She relies so much on her service in bed that she seems to not even bother to present herself perfectly. I mean that I have never seen her with makeup. Personally I am very comfortable in recommending other girls over Kendra. Lena and Adela e. G. There are actually many good girls at Maxim. Amanda when back, also a clear recommendation.

Skarz
10-29-23, 09:37
Line-up is not bad at all now, but it was great like 2-3 weeks ago.
My favorite from the current line-up is Bella; she is totally a girl-next-door type but looks like a model.

HelloTitty
10-30-23, 09:18
Line-up is not bad at all now, but it was great like 2-3 weeks ago.

Sibel is a typical young girl that is very attractive and knows it, therefore her level varies tbh. The way I observed it in the past year she was touring from studio and Peepshow, to clubs and back. Personally, I had only good experiences with her but you know how it is with regulars at certain clubs. YMMV and I usually recommend a girl only after also friends or business partners of mine confirm my opinion. So, I can carefully recommend her judging from feedback that I had recently got from a client I brought to Maxim. What I can say is that one year ago, kissing was not in her repertoire and now it seems she is more open-minded about that. Everything else is very good. Hygience, looks and cuteness are all top-notch.

But I would still recommend Bella and Ariana over Sibel. But they are different types of women and should maybe not be compared directly. It doesn't get better than Ariana in my opinion. She is not in Vienna, though, at the moment.I had great experience with Ariana, she has a sense of humor, flirty and very nice long legs. Sibel and Bella look very good but I don't have experience with them yet.

Gilgamesh87
11-02-23, 00:14
I was recently with my buddy in Maxim for a beer. It was before a vacation day, so we were expecting a good selection of girls. We were there around midnight and there were 5 girls. None of them was good looking. 3 were young and 2 were old. My friend bought for us 2 beer and we wanted to sit down at a nice couch in the corner. We were not allowed because this place is only allowed for "people who buy expensive bottles like champagne". It was just a test. The club was empty and there was only one other guy sitting. Two were leaving while my friend ordered the beer. While we were drinking our beer the 2 old ugly women approached us. The one who was talking to me "offered" me a whirlpool room for 300. The price for a normal room for one hour is 220 by the way. I did not want to go with her. Neither did my friend with his old lady. The other girls never approached us. Apparently they already made some money that night, so they had to give the old ladies a chance to make some money too. We are too experienced to play that game. Some minutes later the old lady from my friend was approaching me. It was really annoying. We drank our beer fast and got out of this place.

We have been to Maxim a couple of times over the years. It has never been this horrible. We won't come back here for at least half a year we agreed. In any Laufhaus you will find better looking women at the moment for a much better price. Save your time and money.

Prizren
11-02-23, 15:24
I will be in Viena for a week, in December.

I just read the forum, but I would like to get information about laufhaus (especially Vienna Laufhaus).

Is there anybody with a recent experience in this laufhaus?

What are the rates, to get in a room? Is it all-inclusive, or many options (more expensive I suppose).

I am used to FKK in Germany, and Piso in Spain, but it's my first visit to Vienna.

Thanks for the answers.

Massimo Potente
11-02-23, 16:17
I was recently with my buddy in Maxim for a beer. It was before a vacation day, so we were expecting a good selection of girls. We were there around midnight and there were 5 girls. None of them was good looking. 3 were young and 2 were old. My friend bought for us 2 beer and we wanted to sit down at a nice couch in the corner. We were not allowed because this place is only allowed for "people who buy expensive bottles like champagne". It was just a test. The club was empty and there was only one other guy sitting. Two were leaving while my friend ordered the beer. While we were drinking our beer the 2 old ugly women approached us. The one who was talking to me "offered" me a whirlpool room for 300. The price for a normal room for one hour is 220 by the way. I did not want to go with her. Neither did my friend with his old lady. The other girls never approached us. Apparently they already made some money that night, so they had to give the old ladies a chance to make some money too. We are too experienced to play that game. Some minutes later the old lady from my friend was approaching me. It was really annoying. We drank our beer fast and got out of this place.

We have been to Maxim a couple of times over the years. It has never been this horrible. We won't come back here for at least half a year we agreed. In any Laufhaus you will find better looking women at the moment for a much better price. Save your time and money.To be fair and put your things in perspective, I think it should be known that you are, just as I am, a regular poster in the local sex forum and you are traditionally one who has trashed Maxim also in the past when there were really much prettier girls, just the same.

Generally you have been on a pursuit to find a place that you like but so far no place has ever been enough for you and your friend, judging by the forums. But of course, YMMV and all is fair in love, sex and mongering.

But, since also the prices were brought into play, I don't think any place in the center, which are all more expensive than Maxim and not better except for Babylon for 650 for the first hour, was ever enough for you. Yes, Laufhauses are cheaper, that is factual for sure. It could have been another off night but over all the lineup with.

Lena, Adela, Bella, Carla, Antonia, Sonia, Sibel (super pretty), Rebecca, Nikki (when she is finally back), Amanda, Mira and Ariana and some others.

Is not bad at all.

Of course the older ladies Kendra, Sylvia, Nataly and Vivien are also not my type, either, at all but they have their takers for sure or otherwise they wouldn't prevail.

Belvaros
11-03-23, 01:24
That definitely was a different time in Vienna, in which Porn actresses from the neighbouring countries like Hungary, Slovakia and Czech Rep used to regularly come to Vienna to better their budgets. But since the situation in their main cities has improved considerably, I think, they have good money-making opportinities locally as well. I don't think real pornstars will find their way here as regularly as before.I will be back in lovely Wien soon. I used to frequent Scotch Club where many of the FKK type WG (GoldenTime) would frequent after hours and some of those Hungarian Porn stars etc. I was with the lovely Jennifer Morante in Budapest years ago and I think it was from her that I got the tip to try Scotch Club AT for the Romanian and other EE FKK girls. Had many a great night in the bar and downstairs at such club and had 6-7 WG from within. NB this was way before COVID.

Do you ever get to said club as I see from their website and Social Media pictures, quite a few stunners are still going there and quite a few, are clearly P4 P.

YMMV.

Skarz
11-03-23, 11:04
I was recently with my buddy in Maxim for a beer. It was before a vacation day, so we were expecting a good selection of girls. We were there around midnight and there were 5 girls. None of them was good looking. 3 were young and 2 were old. My friend bought for us 2 beer and we wanted to sit down at a nice couch in the corner. We were not allowed because this place is only allowed for "people who buy expensive bottles like champagne". It was just a test. The club was empty and there was only one other guy sitting. Two were leaving while my friend ordered the beer. While we were drinking our beer the 2 old ugly women approached us. The one who was talking to me "offered" me a whirlpool room for 300. The price for a normal room for one hour is 220 by the way. I did not want to go with her. Neither did my friend with his old lady. The other girls never approached us. Apparently they already made some money that night, so they had to give the old ladies a chance to make some money too. We are too experienced to play that game. Some minutes later the old lady from my friend was approaching me. It was really annoying. We drank our beer fast and got out of this place.

We have been to Maxim a couple of times over the years. It has never been this horrible. We won't come back here for at least half a year we agreed. In any Laufhaus you will find better looking women at the moment for a much better price. Save your time and money.I think I can speak on behalf of everyone or almost everyone and say that there are those certain nights when you just don't find what you're looking for on that particular night. It can happen and it doesn't mean anything. It can be entirely different the next day. And from how I understand what I read, the total expenses were two beers.

So as far as I know, there still is no entry fee to pay at Maxim, so there is absolutely no threshold to enter or to leave or to try again. And by the way, it wouldn't surprise me if those "older women" are spectacular in the sack.

HelloTitty
11-03-23, 14:44
I will be back in lovely Wien soon. I used to frequent Scotch Club where many of the FKK type WG (GoldenTime) would frequent after hours and some of those Hungarian Porn stars etc. I was with the lovely Jennifer Morante in Budapest years ago and I think it was from her that I got the tip to try Scotch Club AT for the Romanian and other EE FKK girls. Had many a great night in the bar and downstairs at such club and had 6-7 WG from within. NB this was way before COVID.

Do you ever get to said club as I see from their website and Social Media pictures, quite a few stunners are still going there and quite a few, are clearly P4 P..Yes, Scotch Club indeed used to be an amazing opportunity to meet Goldentime girls after they had ended their shifts at work and they wanted to score another client. It was never cheap but it felt more natural to score them at a disco club setting compared to the nudist kind of experience at Goldentime. These days, I feel this is not a thing anymore as it used to be, for various reasons. But what remains are the nice memories.

Massimo Potente
11-03-23, 15:09
So as far as I know, there still is no entry fee to pay at Maxim, so there is absolutely no threshold to enter or to leave or to try again. And by the way, it wouldn't surprise me if those "older women" are spectacular in the sack.Let's say it comes with the terrain that older women or MILFs if you want to call them that are great in bed. They usually have more experience between the sheets. Not that I target older ladies or MILFs myself but I understand why they are often so well-booked. Since Gilgamesh has not given us any names, then I can only speculate and guess. One of them was probably Kendra and the other one Sylvia. Look back a few posts and you will quickly find a user who wants to find somebody who is similarly as good as Kendra. I think that says it all.

To me this way of reviewing is something worrisome. If you have a non-experience because you stayed for such a short time, what exactly was horrible about it? It doesn't say much. Like those guys who are not allowed to enter a club and then go on a revenge tour on social media. Sour grapes is all that this is IMHO.

Hypothetically for many businesses it is better to not let people come in without entry fee anymore. I think this is where things will eventually lead. Clubs making it harder for people to come in and by that measure making sure that only people come in who are willing to spend money and time. It would be a shame if the last club that has a no-entry-fee policy would end it as well. This would make it worse for everybody.

Tintin1
11-03-23, 16:23
To me this way of reviewing is something worrisome. If you have a non-experience because you stayed for such a short time, what exactly was horrible about it? It doesn't say much. Like those guys who are not allowed to enter a club and then go on a revenge tour on social media. Sour grapes is all that this is IMHO.
Agree, but I find the flip side just as annoying, when someone says there were 8's and 9's and I go to the club and think "all the beauties can't be on vacation". Were there really Playboy model ladies there the night before? I was in a club last year where I thought the ladies all had just come back from 2 months at an all you can eat resort. Just a bit too "big" for me. NOW if you like rubenesque ladies, you might be walking around with a erection poking out of your towel?

You go to the club and don't find anyone you like, maybe it's YOU? As MasPp says, I'm ok with a negative review, be nice to know if it was the fake silicon, the aggressive tactics or just too many ROs who all looked the same.

Max #01
11-03-23, 16:31
Yes, Scotch Club indeed used to be an amazing opportunity to meet Goldentime girls after they had ended their shifts at work and they wanted to score another client. It was never cheap but it felt more natural to score them at a disco club setting compared to the nudist kind of experience at Goldentime. These days, I feel this is not a thing anymore as it used to be, for various reasons. But what remains are the nice memories.I used to stay close enough to the Scotch Club that I walked past it every day and ran past it every morning. The big deterrent for me in years past was all the smoking, especially in such a small place. I would often walk by it after an evening of adult activities at Maxim or one of the sauna clubs.

Question for the more experienced Vienna guys: Was / is Scotch like the old Night Flight in Moscow where every woman in there was available? The only place off-limits for transactions in NF was the restaurant. If the female patrons were a mixture of amateurs and professionals, how did the pros make it known that they were available? Did any of you guys even pick up an obvious amateur and take her back to your hotel / home? I was usually physically spent and jet-lagged, so I never tried it myself.

MonSooner
11-03-23, 17:46
Agree, but I find the flip side just as annoying, when someone says there were 8's and 9's and I go to the club and think "all the beauties can't be on vacation". Were there really Playboy model ladies there the night before? I was in a club last year where I thought the ladies all had just come back from 2 months at an all you can eat resort. Just a bit too "big" for me. NOW if you like rubenesque ladies, you might be walking around with a erection poking out of your towel?

You go to the club and don't find anyone you like, maybe it's YOU? As MasPp says, I'm ok with a negative review, be nice to know if it was the fake silicon, the aggressive tactics or just too many ROs who all looked the same.If you are a seasoned Vienna sex consumer then you know what's up. Of course the pretty girls are not all on vacation. Never thought of the possibility that some guys quickly catch them and take them to the room? That's what's happening right now at Babylon and sometimes at Maxim as well. You come after 11 PM and you won't find anybody at all. Because the regulars And people who take action simply occupy the best looking girls. That's what it is. And I think one cannot stress often enough that if you go to a place without entry fee, you can always leave without draining your budget at all. That is kind of a privilege that only Laufhäuser offer.

Massimo Potente
11-03-23, 17:59
Agree, but I find the flip side just as annoying, when someone says there were 8's and 9's and I go to the club and think "all the beauties can't be on vacation". Were there really Playboy model ladies there the night before? I was in a club last year where I thought the ladies all had just come back from 2 months at an all you can eat resort. Just a bit too "big" for me. NOW if you like rubenesque ladies, you might be walking around with a erection poking out of your towel?

You go to the club and don't find anyone you like, maybe it's YOU? As MasPp says, I'm ok with a negative review, be nice to know if it was the fake silicon, the aggressive tactics or just too many ROs who all looked the same.First of all the 8's and 9's are just an opinion and in my opinion generally soon a thing of the past. The 8's and 9's and 10's are usually found now in Dubai, Mykonos, Ibiza and OnlyFans / Instagram.

I am personally prepared to lower my expectations considerably.

Second of all, a good review needs NAMES. I was at Maxim and had a good time is as useless as I was at Maxim (Goldentime, Funpalast, Peepshow etc) and it was horrible.

The only correct way in which you give value to readers is by naming names of who you sessioned with or talked to. And who was so horribly ugly that you had to rush out and deal with this oh so very shocking experience. But all joking and berating aside, as I said, all is allowed and perfectly fine in mongering and YMMV, always it will.

Belvaros
11-03-23, 23:28
I think I can speak on behalf of everyone or almost everyone and say that there are those certain nights when you just don't find what you're looking for on that particular night. It can happen and it doesn't mean anything. It can be entirely different the next day. And from how I understand what I read, the total expenses were two beers.

So as far as I know, there still is no entry fee to pay at Maxim, so there is absolutely no threshold to enter or to leave or to try again. And by the way, it wouldn't surprise me if those "older women" are spectacular in the sack.Thanks, I used to sit more in the upstairs bar area and some girls I had "sessioned" with at GT (Romanians) would come and say Hi and a few I took home LT. I can speak enough Romanian with humor to have a good time with those lasses but I guessed post Covid much has changed. I haven't been there for well over 5 years I would guess.

I will check it out and write a report when possible.

Thanks also to Massimo Potente, great stuff as usual.

Belvaros
11-03-23, 23:30
I used to stay close enough to the Scotch Club that I walked past it every day and ran past it every morning. The big deterrent for me in years past was all the smoking, especially in such a small place. I would often walk by it after an evening of adult activities at Maxim or one of the sauna clubs.

Question for the more experienced Vienna guys: Was / is Scotch like the old Night Flight in Moscow where every woman in there was available? The only place off-limits for transactions in NF was the restaurant. If the female patrons were a mixture of amateurs and professionals, how did the pros make it known that they were available? Did any of you guys even pick up an obvious amateur and take her back to your hotel / home? I was usually physically spent and jet-lagged, so I never tried it myself.I am an older guy (50's now, 40's then) and I only ever went for the older MILF types (some freebies some semi-pro) but only ever took out the WG from GT.

And yes, the Smoking is horrible. Indeed in many places I've done this thingy.

Wilmorr
11-04-23, 01:14
Will go with Kendra, and Amanda or Bella. Help me choose between the last two at Maxim.

MonSooner
11-04-23, 18:24
Will go with Kendra, and Amanda or Bella. Help me choose between the last two at Maxim.In my opinion definitely Bella. Currently, I think, Amanda is not yet back from vacation. If she were, I'd still rather pick Bella because she is so graceful. Amanda seems to me more the funny, always in a good mood, buddy-type. But the silicone boobs make her less my type.

Gilgamesh87
11-04-23, 20:57
Since Gilgamesh has not given us any names, then I can only speculate and guess. One of them was probably Kendra and the other one Sylvia. Look back a few posts and you will quickly find a user who wants to find somebody who is similarly as good as Kendra. I think that says it all.
Yes. One of them was Kendra. She was still better looking. The other one could be Sylvia. I forgot her name. She is not on the homepage. She is Hungarian with big breasts, black hair and looks older than Kendra.

Massimo Potente
11-05-23, 13:36
Will go with Kendra, and Amanda or Bella. Help me choose between the last two at Maxim.Both are very kind girls and both are recommended. But they couldn't be more different visually. Amanda is a dark type, with lots of tattoos and Silicone tits. Bella has an amazing figure and all natural but small boobies and is a lighter type. Bella is more lady-like and distinguished. Amanda is the very very fun partygirl type.

Gilgamesh87
11-07-23, 22:38
I will be back in lovely Wien soon. I used to frequent Scotch Club where many of the FKK type WG (GoldenTime) would frequent after hours and some of those Hungarian Porn stars etc. I was with the lovely Jennifer Morante in Budapest years ago and I think it was from her that I got the tip to try Scotch Club AT for the Romanian and other EE FKK girls. Had many a great night in the bar and downstairs at such club and had 6-7 WG from within. NB this was way before COVID.

Do you ever get to said club as I see from their website and Social Media pictures, quite a few stunners are still going there and quite a few, are clearly P4 P.

YMMV.Interesting. I have never been to Scotch Club. I wonder where the girls go when they want to make some money privately with escort. Are there any interesting hotel bars or clubs where girls go to meet men who are willing to pay for sex?

DivorceChris
11-10-23, 14:25
Hi everybody,

Can anyone tell me about his experiences of the sauna club "Tanuru"?

Thanks.

MonSooner
11-11-23, 01:49
Hi everybody,

Can anyone tell me about his experiences of the sauna club "Tanuru"?

Thanks.Not a Saunaclub at all. It's a massage parlor a little outside of Vienna in Vösendorf.

SvenFKK
12-03-23, 23:32
In a few weeks I’ll be in Vienna for a week, near the centre of town (towards the east, around Schwedenplatz). In Germany I can get a good erotic massage lasting an hour for EUR 100. I can fuck in a brothel for EUR 50 for half an hour, with EUR 30 entrance fee. Of course one can pay more, but I don’t want to. I also want have more than 1–2 hours at a time, and only in the early evenings. Any ideas? In particular, some sort of FKK-club would be nice so I can see the girls nude before choosing, can be nude myself, possibly with sauna, whirlpool, etc.

Eagle Gfe
12-05-23, 00:26
Just came back from a short trip to Vienna where I had the pleasure to meet Daisy (https://darling.wien/en/escort/daisy/) and I must say I agree with the reviews found on her profile. If you are looking for some intense and passionate GFE, she is a must-try.

Skarz
12-05-23, 17:44
Just came back from a short trip to Vienna where I had the pleasure to meet Daisy (https://darling.wien/en/escort/daisy/) and I must say I agree with the reviews found on her profile. If you are looking for some intense and passionate GFE, she is a must-try.Damn, at first when I read this, I thought and hoped that you meant THE Daisy from Maxim who was praised to be the best girl and escort in Vienna back in her days. So that is clearly not her. Don't want to take anything away from her but I was really hoping it is the other Daisy.

MonSooner
12-05-23, 18:32
Damn, at first when I read this, I thought and hoped that you meant THE Daisy from Maxim who was praised to be the best girl and escort in Vienna back in her days. So that is clearly not her. Don't want to take anything away from her but I was really hoping it is the other Daisy.Unfortunately it is not the same Daisy. It would've been nice to have her back in Vienna. She is in Switzerland now working at Globe if I am still up to date.

For all we know she is kind of a star at Globe which I know she will enjoy more than anything. Therefore I wouldn't expect her back to Vienna and there are other reasons as well which make a return to Vienna super unlikely.

Now that Maxim is doing Table Dances as well which might attract the sort of people who don't want sex and just a relaxing lap dance, coming back to her favorite working spot might be appealing. But I still don't expect her back soon. She'd love it, though, to do lap dances for everyone to see in public.

Skarz
12-06-23, 17:07
Unfortunately it is not the same Daisy. It would've been nice to have her back in Vienna. She is in Switzerland now working at Globe if I am still up to date.

For all we know she is kind of a star at Globe which I know she will enjoy more than anything. Therefore I wouldn't expect her back to Vienna and there are other reasons as well which make a return to Vienna super unlikely.

Now that Maxim is doing Table Dances as well which might attract the sort of people who don't want sex and just a relaxing lap dance, coming back to her favorite working spot might be appealing. But I still don't expect her back soon. She'd love it, though, to do lap dances for everyone to see in public.The way you wrote it might have been somewhat misleading as far as the lapdance is concerned. Maxim is indeed offering lap dances now, but it should be noted that it is still a brothel, first and foremost and every girl is available for the sex rooms. There is no distinction between the strippers and the ladies working in the rooms. This is at least how I understand the system change.

HelloTitty
12-07-23, 20:43
I'm seeing a lot of bad news regarding FP in the local Vienna forums. No food anymore, no more bathrobes, the indoor pool is dry and soon to be shut down entirely and there never was an outdoor pool anyways. The strongest time of the year is usually December but there are a lot of signs that FP will close soon. I think in 2024 there will be no FP anymore.

Skarz
12-14-23, 19:47
I'm seeing a lot of bad news regarding FP in the local Vienna forums. No food anymore, no more bathrobes, the indoor pool is dry and soon to be shut down entirely and there never was an outdoor pool anyways. The strongest time of the year is usually December but there are a lot of signs that FP will close soon. I think in 2024 there will be no FP anymore.Yes, this is where several years of bad decisions, poor business model, and weak promotions lead or in other words pride comes before the fall.

And as a lesson for for other clubs that are struggling. Never make girls' services available to be be paid for with coupons. This is and was an embarrassment of the highest degree. Any kind of discounts and Black Friday Deals are inappropriate in this industry, in my opinion.

What you want as a club is gentlemen and not people looking for deals.

Max #01
12-15-23, 04:43
Yes, this is where several years of bad decisions, poor business model, and weak promotions lead or in other words pride comes before the fall.

And as a lesson for for other clubs that are struggling. Never make girls' services available to be be paid for with coupons. This is and was an embarrassment of the highest degree. Any kind of discounts and Black Friday Deals are inappropriate in this industry, in my opinion.

What you want as a club is gentlemen and not people looking for deals.I was originally attracted to FP and Fresh (not too far away) specifically because they weren't Goldentime. They were more low-key and were far away from my work colleagues. The promotions and coupons can work as long as they don't affect the girls' net income. Fresh has the Video Rudi gangbangs, but that really hurt the girls who worked there. I used to watch the "regular girls" stand around upstairs and watch Rudi's girls take all their business. It's really hard to keep and attract good talent when you constantly pull the rug out from under them. Pretty soon, Vienna will be left with GT and Babylon (and maybe not even Babylon from what I've read). We'll be left with one over-priced sauna club and lots of really mediocre studios. Bummer.

Massimo Potente
12-15-23, 11:46
Pretty soon, Vienna will be left with GT and Babylon (and maybe not even Babylon from what I've read). We'll be left with one over-priced sauna club and lots of really mediocre studios. Bummer.There is still Maxim as well, that despite some nay-sayers non-reporting otherwise has been very strong in this fall and winter season as far as their lineup is concerned.

And not only is the lineup quite good now and hopefully again next year after the holidays. Also their partial renovations are progressing nicely. I see things going in a very good direction there.

If the website is updated correctly then the Slovakian Nikki is available who I met in summer and who is a very refreshing person and also very attractive if all the tattoos don't annoy you.

https://maxim-wien.com/nikki/

And if Virginia really is back then you have another former Babylon girl who is different than the usual girls in the lineup. She has the biggest natural tits on an otherwise lean rack that you will find.

https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/Virginia/

Max #01
12-15-23, 15:16
There is still Maxim as well, that despite some nay-sayers non-reporting otherwise has been very strong in this fall and winter season as far as their lineup is concerned.

And not only is the lineup quite good now and hopefully again next year after the holidays. Also their partial renovations are progressing nicely. I see things going in a very good direction there.

If the website is updated correctly then the Slovakian Nikki is available who I met in summer and who is a very refreshing person and also very attractive if all the tattoos don't annoy you.

https://maxim-wien.com/nikki/

And if Virginia really is back then you have another former Babylon girl who is different than the usual girls in the lineup. She has the biggest natural tits on an otherwise lean rack that you will find.

https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/Virginia/Senior moment! How could I have forgotten about Maxim? It's my go-to place when I'm in Vienna!

MonSooner
12-18-23, 20:15
There is still Maxim as well, that despite some nay-sayers non-reporting otherwise has been very strong …Nay-sayers" and „non-reporting" LOL.

Most people will not get your reference but I think I do, though. Most people don't seem to see how the sex industry has changed since the pandemic. Not a single club is the same since then.

Some examples:

Goldentime before Corona: half an hour 70€ - now 100 maybe but probably 150-200 if you are not a local regular customer.

Babylon before Corona: 1 hour 500 and 15-30 girls. Now 600 or 650 per hour and sometimes no available girls at all. Club closes at 02:00.

Funpalast before Corona: mildly successful, half hour 60€ - now girls charge what they want and club closure around the corner.

Maxim before Corona: no entry fee and 20-30 girls 200€ each hour. Now 10-15 girls (lineup has slowly grown for the better) 1 hour 220€.

What I want to say is that we have to deal with whatever cards we are dealt and enjoy the clubs who are still surviving. As clients we should not expect an impossible standard.

DonDonato
12-20-23, 09:50
If I understand correctly the epidemic pretty much destroyed the scene in Vienna. Few years ago, maybe even ten, I was in the Aroma Tempel studio. The studio was great with a jacuzzi in one room. Is there anything similar in town right now?

Max #01
12-20-23, 20:58
Saw this in their Christmas greetings email: https://maxim-wien.com/new-admission-maxim-vienna-and-why-guests-benefit-from-it/.

It's € 20, sort of. They give you € 10 back + a € 3 Maxim bucks you can spend on a girl. Reading between the lines, it appears as if they are trying to keep out the guys who drop in for a few minutes, check out the girls and then leave.

DonDonato
12-21-23, 10:31
Saw this in their Christmas greetings email: https://maxim-wien.com/new-admission-maxim-vienna-and-why-guests-benefit-from-it/.

It's 20, sort of. They give you 10 back + a 3 Maxim bucks you can spend on a girl. Reading between the lines, it appears as if they are trying to keep out the guys who drop in for a few minutes, check out the girls and then leave.This is reasonable. A few years ago I was in a club, enjoying the program and saw a group of migrants who went inside, saw a couple of tits and ran outside.

Charlie Smart
12-21-23, 15:35
Gives new meaning to the word "quickie" .


This is reasonable. A few years ago I was in a club, enjoying the program and saw a group of migrants who went inside, saw a couple of tits and ran outside.

Massimo Potente
12-24-23, 02:58
I wasn't there at Maxim personally for a few weeks until now, therefore I didn't have a chance to get an explanation as to how it should work and also why Maxim has decided to charge an entry for the first time in all those years. So I just asked.

It is what I assumed all along and what was bound to happen sooner or later. Allegedly it happened too many times that people would just enter and use the bathroom and then would leave without spending any money. Also, the fee is supposed to be somewhat of a screening procedure because people had been increasingly acted disrespectfully towards the ladies.

Boss said he decided to get rid of disrespectful people who would spend nothing and be disrespectful to the staff as a bonus. Allegedly, the girls never were happier and business seems to not have taken a hit by that measure and the overall level seems to be better now. I can neither confirm nor deny, I just repeat what I heard. It makes sense to me, though and if people do not value the open-door policy accordingly, why would they not make that change to weed out?

At the end of the day it is a business decision of the owner.

For us regulars it means nothing because obviously (and again, I asked to be sure) we will continue to NOT pay an entry fee. And this will be true for every returning customer. I don't know yet how it will be handled in the process but my best guess is that even if the bouncer doesn't know you and charges you the 20, the bar ladies or whoever is in charge will return it if they recognize you. Should be easy enough.

As far as coupons are concerned, they are not yet in use but they'll come. I quote: "Every person who really wants to come in for free as a customer,. (and I assume customer being the imperative word) will find a coupon or voucher to come in for free if they look hard enough". So, if left to my imagination that can be various things like.

Newsletter.

Hotel concierge.

Flyers on the street.

Forum campaigns but I expect that to be in the local Erotikforum and not here as they have never advertised here yet, I think.

Tintin1
12-24-23, 04:21
Boss said he decided to get rid of disrespectful people who would spend nothing and be disrespectful to the staff as a bonus. Allegedly, the girls never were happier and business seems to not have taken a hit by that measure and the overall level seems to be better now. I can neither confirm nor deny, I just repeat what I heard. It makes sense to me, though and if people do not value the open-door policy accordingly, why would they not make that change to weed out?

At the end of the day it is a business decision of the owner.

For us regulars it means nothing because obviously (and again, I asked to be sure) we will continue to NOT pay an entry fee. And this will be true for every returning customer. I don't know yet how it will be handled in the process but my best guess is that even if the bouncer doesn't know you and charges you the 20, the bar ladies or whoever is in charge will return it if they recognize you. Should be easy enough. Something similar happened in Cape Town years ago when guys would walk in for the line up. Stare at the girls. Tell them they weren't attractive enough or make stupid price offers. They instituted a ver small door deposit. About $10 - and they took it off your visit or gave you a receipt for next visit. The 3rd time I went the madam said come in. I know you. Etc etc.

It makes sense. It not only helps the establishment it makes it better for the regulars who don't have to see these idiots annoying the staff.

BarryWood
12-28-23, 23:04
Went to Maxim tonight and there were 3 ladies. One fat one, one haggered older blond, and one kinda hot brunette that was with a couple guys aon the couch so I took off after a 21 Euro jack and come. Very disappointing. The bartender said most girls are home for the holidays so I'll prolly check it out on my last day here Jan 02.

Massimo Potente
12-29-23, 21:09
Went to Maxim tonight and there were 3 ladies. One fat one, one haggered older blond, and one kinda hot brunette that was with a couple guys aon the couch so I took off after a 21 Euro jack and come. Very disappointing. The bartender said most girls are home for the holidays so I'll prolly check it out on my last day here Jan 02.As a matter of fact there were 6 girls at Maxim yesterday but unfortunately Sibel, Virginia and the new hot Austrian one were busy all night. There were some whales who booked them for hours on end.

Personally I didn't get my turn either but of course I had no expectations going there as one shouldn't right after Christmas.

To put this into perspective. FP which is approximately 8 times as big as Maxim, had also 6 ladies working yesterday.

Babylon has been closed from 22nd December already and will open on the 7th of January again as far as I know.

At this time of year the girls spend the fruits of their labour at home in Romania or where ever they are from and don't stay here in Vienna. Happens this way every year for 2 decades or longer already and will be the same next year and the years to come.

Delta Indigo
12-30-23, 00:28
As a matter of fact there were 6 girls at Maxim yesterday but unfortunately Sibel, Virginia and the new hot Austrian one were busy all night. There were some whales who booked them for hours on end.

Personally I didn't get my turn either but of course I had no expectations going there as one shouldn't right after Christmas.

To put this into perspective. FP which is approximately 8 times as big as Maxim, had also 6 ladies working yesterday.

Babylon has been closed from 22nd December already and will open on the 7th of January again as far as I know.

At this time of year the girls spend the fruits of their labour at home in Romania or where ever they are from and don't stay here in Vienna. Happens this way every year for 2 decades or longer already and will be the same next year and the years to come.So Funpalast is still open? It has been reported that this place will close down soon or was supposed to last Autumn. So why is this place still open? Has something changed or were the rumors wrong?

MonSooner
12-30-23, 01:00
So Funpalast is still open? It has been reported that this place will close down soon or was supposed to last Autumn. So why is this place still open? Has something changed or were the rumors wrong?The rumors were true and there was a deal which eventually would have resulted in FP being torn down. Apparently the deal blew up in their face although all seemed to be done and dusted.

So, to me it seems they are just still riding the current wave they're on. They eliminated most Saunaclub aspects in order to save energy. No more pool and no focus on the wellness aspect anymore. Since they have no deal no more they'll stay open for the time being. I think they're being cryptic about it because they just don't know any better. Were there a clean cut concept, they would have marketed the shot out of it wihh the their usual cheap marketing stunts. They haven't so, makes sense to assume they are just playing it by ear. Nothing wrong with that IMHO.

Sirioja
12-30-23, 09:16
Nay-sayers" and non-reporting" LOL.

Most people will not get your reference but I think I do, though. Most people don't seem to see how the sex industry has changed since the pandemic. Not a single club is the same since then.

Some examples:

Goldentime before Corona: half an hour 70 - now 100 maybe but probably 150-200 if you are not a local regular customer.

Babylon before Corona: 1 hour 500 and 15-30 girls. Now 600 or 650 per hour and sometimes no available girls at all. Club closes at 02:00.

Funpalast before Corona: mildly successful, half hour 60 - now girls charge what they want and club closure around the corner.

Maxim before Corona: no entry fee and 20-30 girls 200 each hour. Now 10-15 girls (lineup has slowly grown for the better) 1 hour 220.

What I want to say is that we have to deal with whatever cards we are dealt and enjoy the clubs who are still surviving. As clients we should not expect an impossible standard.You mean Golden Time is now 150 or 200 for 30 mn? A long time there, Anita silicon is at Freubad since Summer, for less than 200/60 . Maxim for 220/60 now? But no entry to pay? Only worthing for really pretties really kissing and BBBJ.

MonSooner
01-02-24, 00:10
You mean Golden Time is now 150 or 200 for 30 mn? A long time there, Anita silicon is at Freubad since Summer, for less than 200/60 . Maxim for 220/60 now? But no entry to pay? Only worthing for really pretties really kissing and BBBJ.At GT most girls will try to take advantage of tourists without any scruples. Price for half an hour is supposed to be 70€ but they will probably decline if you insist. We know of girls that charged up to 300 for half an hour, mostly trying to fool Asians. Better watch out in that case.

Hammer893
01-02-24, 11:45
Dear fellow mongers of Wien.

Wie geht es ihnen? (how are you?

Planning a visit to your esteemed country and would be in Vienna.

Since I have a very limited time in your wodnerful town I would like to plan out my mongering visit.

Since I will be located near Leopoldstadt, I could only see the nearest options of Zollgasse3 and Juchgasse. But both seem to pretty expensive or I am unaware of the modus operandi.

Since my budget would be max 100 Euros for 30 - 40 mins, could you please suggest similar places in the vicinity?

Your help would highly appreciated.

Thank you.

Tintin1
01-03-24, 17:30
Dear fellow mongers of Wien.

Since I will be located near Leopoldstadt, I could only see the nearest options of Zollgasse3 and Juchgasse. But both seem to pretty expensive or I am unaware of the modus operandi.

Since my budget would be max 100 Euros for 30 - 40 mins, could you please suggest similar places in the vicinity?

Your help would highly appreciated.

Thank you.Read the various reports on Peepshow Wien. They book in 15 minute increments. And it's easily reachable by public transport in under 30 minutes. The building is on a main area. V safe. And the place has nice little rooms to use. For $100 you could def have fun for a tiny bit more. You could have two sessions.

The other great thing about the laufhäuser is that you walk through and if you don't find what you want you haven't spent any money!

Fuschlszg
01-03-24, 23:23
Nay-sayers" and non-reporting" LOL.

Most people will not get your reference but I think I do, though. Most people don't seem to see how the sex industry has changed since the pandemic. Not a single club is the same since then.

Some examples:

Goldentime before Corona: half an hour 70 - now 100 maybe but probably 150-200 if you are not a local regular customer.

Babylon before Corona: 1 hour 500 and 15-30 girls. Now 600 or 650 per hour and sometimes no available girls at all. Club closes at 02:00.

Funpalast before Corona: mildly successful, half hour 60 - now girls charge what they want and club closure around the corner.

Maxim before Corona: no entry fee and 20-30 girls 200 each hour. Now 10-15 girls (lineup has slowly grown for the better) 1 hour 220..Nevertheless. Considering that sex industry is a market, with "supply" and "demand" like others markets, what social factors or market forces explain this rise on prices after the pandemic, social life is back to normal.

Massimo Potente
01-04-24, 12:23
Nevertheless. Considering that sex industry is a market, with "supply" and "demand" like others markets, what social factors or market forces explain this rise on prices after the pandemic, social life is back to normal.I don't think that the sex industry is a market like other markets in which "supply and demand" apply perfectly. I would argue that the pandemic had a lasting effect which can hardly be overcome and is to all our detriment and it has become even more apparent that this is not your typical market of goods and services that will react to economic laws logically or perfectly. At the minimum I can say that it is not working as you would expect even if you have all the academic degrees.

In short the pandemic has hurt the "middle man" which in our case is the clubs. Agencies still existed but to a lesser extent, they could still operate but faced a massive challenge. With all clubs being shut down with the proverbial hammer the girls had to become independent and quickly found that now they can charge the same as an agency or club would. The premium in their pockets was used to pay police penalties because it is illegal in Austria to welcome clients at your home. As a result, the clients and the ladies now are used to dealing with each other directly and the clubs have become less frequented by girls and boys partly because of that.

When clubs reopened it seemed for a second that everyone would run to the clubs and meet there but it wasn't the case. In hindsight it is obvious why, but it wasn't so obvious back then.

In order to attract girls the clubs need to improve the working place for the ladies. So what has the boss of a saunaclub to offer to a girl to attract her and make her work there? It can only be financial bait.

1. she can charge more or even better, she can charge whatever she pleases.

2. her entry fee is lower.

Seeing that the best client in a saunaclub is the girl and not the male client, you can probably guess who is more important to the owner of a saunaclub. After all, a girl is the best returning customer for the FKK club. She can work up to 30 days a month.

I could come up with stronger and more controversial reasons to justify and explain higher prices. How about if I said that the prices were to cheap to begin with and are now "normal".

Be it as it may. The higher prices are about to stay.

Hammer893
01-04-24, 18:53
Dear Tintin1,

Thank you for your inputs, it is highly appreciated.

I checked out the website of Peepshow it would be around 30 minutes by public transport, just like you indicated.

About Peepshow, the girls which seemed interesting according to my liking:

1. Patricia & Angel. Young but lacking some quality services.

2. Isabel. Mature and experienced offers anal but no COF.

3. Deea. Exprienced offers DT and COF.

4. Adelle. Young tight with COF.

Just a quick question on the charges, it shows 55 euros for sex, so do we have to pay extra for the oral?

Thank you once again for you help.

Happy Mongering.


Read the various reports on Peepshow Wien. They book in 15 minute increments. And it's easily reachable by public transport in under 30 minutes. The building is on a main area. V safe. And the place has nice little rooms to use. For $100 you could def have fun for a tiny bit more. You could have two sessions.

The other great thing about the laufhuser is that you walk through and if you don't find what you want you haven't spent any money!

Fuschlszg
01-04-24, 23:32
I don't think that the sex industry is a market like other markets in which "supply and demand" apply perfectly. I would argue that the pandemic had a lasting effect which can hardly be overcome and is to all our detriment and it has become even more apparent that this is not your typical market of goods and services that will react to economic laws logically or perfectly. At the minimum I can say that it is not working as you would expect even if you have all the academic degrees.

In short the pandemic has hurt the "middle man" which in our case is the clubs. Agencies still existed but to a lesser extent, they could still operate but faced a massive challenge. With all clubs being shut down with the proverbial hammer the girls had to become independent and quickly found that now they can charge the same as an agency or club would. The premium in their pockets was used to pay police penalties because it is illegal in Austria to welcome clients at your home. As a result, the clients and the ladies now are used to dealing with each other directly and the clubs have become less frequented by girls and boys partly because of that.

When clubs reopened it seemed for a second that everyone would run to the clubs and meet there but it wasn't the case. In hindsight it is obvious why, but it wasn't so obvious back then.

In order to attract girls the clubs need to improve the working place for the ladies. So what has the boss of a saunaclub to offer to a girl to attract her and make her work there? It can only be financial bait.

1. she can charge more or even better, she can charge whatever she pleases.

2. her entry fee is lower.

Seeing that the best client in a saunaclub is the girl and not the male client, you can probably guess who is more important to the owner of a saunaclub. After all, a girl is the best returning customer for the FKK club. She can work up to 30 days a month.

I could come up with stronger and more controversial reasons to justify and explain higher prices. How about if I said that the prices were to cheap to begin with and are now "normal".

Be it as it may. The higher prices are about to stay.Thanks Maximo for the explanation.

Everything that you argue makes sense.

Nevertheless, guessing the future, I am not sure if this move to "independent" would benefit on a long term basis the girls. If they stay independent they must have a stable and reliable base of customers to keep their income and in fact clubs provide a sort of "security" (job and income) which cannot be neglected.

Pandemic causes strong disruption in some business but things smoothly came back to as it was previously.

I am particularly concerned with the decrease of available girls in the most exclusive clubs which on a certain extend affects the customer experience, hope that they would not disappear and reinvent themselves to keep attractive.

On FKK clubs, seems that line-up has not been so hardly affected but upselling is now the standard and not the exception.

MonSooner
01-05-24, 01:41
Be it as it may. The higher prices are about to stay.I am not so sure that this is universally true. I feel that things will balance themselves out sooner or later. But I agree that certainly some clubs were to cheap to begin with. 70 for half an hour at GT is not sustainable in 2024 and beyond and neither is 150 or more. I think an established straight 100 would do the trick but that is wishful thinking. I just don't know how one would sell this restriction to the girls.

I also don't see how places like Residenz could handle the overcharging of extras and get that under control again. Overall there is a lot of price madness going on to make the girls happy.

HelloTitty
01-05-24, 17:38
I noticed that Wellcum has increased their pricing too, from 70 to 80 for half an hour. Everything is getting more expensive and it was expected that over time everybody in the industry will have to raise prices to not lose girls. It makes sense to me what MassimoPotente wrote.

Massimo Potente
01-06-24, 17:39
I noticed that Wellcum has increased their pricing too, from 70 to 80 for half an hour. Everything is getting more expensive and it was expected that over time everybody in the industry will have to raise prices to not lose girls. It makes sense to me what MassimoPotente wrote.Wellcum is not in Vienna but I get your point.

More on topic and relevant is the most recent increase of the entry fee in GT since we are talking about FKK clubs in this case.

In GT the entry fee is now 95 for a one-time ticket or you can buy 6 for 500 which is 83,34 per ticket. This is a hefty increase for the regulars. Before the pandemic we used to pay 400 for 6 tickets which was like 66 each and then 500 for 7 tickets which was like 71. It is what it is.

Max #01
01-09-24, 19:55
I am not so sure that this is universally true. I feel that things will balance themselves out sooner or later. But I agree that certainly some clubs were to cheap to begin with. 70 for half an hour at GT is not sustainable in 2024 and beyond and neither is 150 or more. I think an established straight 100 would do the trick but that is wishful thinking. I just don't know how one would sell this restriction to the girls.

I also don't see how places like Residenz could handle the overcharging of extras and get that under control again. Overall there is a lot of price madness going on to make the girls happy.It would be easy to say that what GT needs is viable competition. But, the competition is not only for us, the customers, it's also for the finite number of girls who want to maximize their profits. Sauna clubs who want to compete with GT need to reduce prices while providing a work environment for the girls at least as good as GT. If a club wanted to attract customers by prohibiting the girls from upcharging, why would girls stay there when GT allows them to upcharge, or at least looks the other way?

In my own case, I have to remind myself that Vienna isn't Germany, where there is an FKK on almost every street corner (obviously exaggerating! Vienna, in one metropolitan area, has a wide variety of consenting adult options. One could make the argument that Vienna doesn't need the sauna clubs at all. There are numerous other options for spontaneous activities: night clubs, studios and even the peep show. With planning, there is ample opportunities to set up an escort. Perhaps the completion is not between a new sauna club and GT. It's between a new sauna club and everything else.

Sirioja
01-09-24, 21:50
At GT most girls will try to take advantage of tourists without any scruples. Price for half an hour is supposed to be 70 but they will probably decline if you insist. We know of girls that charged up to 300 for half an hour, mostly trying to fool Asians. Better watch out in that case.I m a foreigner, but not Asian nor a brothels tourist and I know how to talk to women. I really enjoyed with Iranian Sepid at GT, extreme GFE for 200/60 . I m pretty sure if we meet again, she would not ask for more, but would prefer we repeat again beyond her taboos.

MonSooner
01-12-24, 13:46
I m a foreigner, but not Asian nor a brothels tourist and I know how to talk to women. I really enjoyed with Iranian Sepid at GT, extreme GFE for 200/60 . I m pretty sure if we meet again, she would not ask for more, but would prefer we repeat again beyond her taboos.I am sure you'll do all right. I doubt though that Sepid is currently at GT. And for the record, even though she might have Itanian roots, she is from Romania.

I think most people who use this forum are not seasoned and very experienced like you. And therefore I think it is important to tell them what can happen and what to expect.

All things considered, GT is still the same as it always was, just the experience will not be the same and neither are the prices.

YMMV and there is no doubt in my mind that some guys will have the time of their life. But others won't. I know that people are looking for easy answers and solutions but when things get complicated, it is good to hear more than one opinion.

Massimo Potente
01-12-24, 21:29
It would be easy to say that what GT needs is viable competition. But, the competition is not only for us, the customers, it's also for the finite number of girls who want to maximize their profits. Sauna clubs who want to compete with GT need to reduce prices while providing a work environment for the girls at least as good as GT. If a club wanted to attract customers by prohibiting the girls from upcharging, why would girls stay there when GT allows them to upcharge, or at least looks the other way?

In my own case, I have to remind myself that Vienna isn't Germany, where there is an FKK on almost every street corner (obviously exaggerating! Vienna, in one metropolitan area, has a wide variety of consenting adult options. One could make the argument that Vienna doesn't need the sauna clubs at all. There are numerous other options for spontaneous activities: night clubs, studios and even the peep show. With planning, there is ample opportunities to set up an escort. Perhaps the completion is not between a new sauna club and GT. It's between a new sauna club and everything else.I agree with almost all you're saying.

I think we have reached a point in which all that clubs can do is wait and survive the crisis and the circumstances which are dire. Goal number 1 is to make the best and most motivated ladies feel comfortable and customer traffic so strong, so that overcharging is not necessary. How? I truly don't know.

But the most resilient clubs will pull through and most I assume that a few will give up. Prices being higher now is not going to be a problem as long as quality is also stable.

Rocko20
01-13-24, 01:41
I don't think that the sex industry is a market like other markets in which "supply and demand" apply perfectly.
I do. Either you pay the price or don't. Supply and demand. A pornstar can charge $1,200 an hour. A normal WG cannot do that. Go to Dubai and the European/Caucasian sex workers charge more than the Asian, African, and Middle Eastern sex workers. How do they know to charge more? Supply and demand.

Mongering and the sex industry is built off people who spend money. Not frugal thrifty cheap charlies. The sex industry caters towards the spenders, always has and always will.

There will never be a shortage of men willing to spend money on pussy, and the sex industry market will reflect that. Even outside of a brothel. 10 years ago prices were cheaper. And 10 years from now, the prices will be triple what they are today.

Supply and demand. My objective is to have sex with the hottest women available, and their objective is to charge as much as possible while also getting the most clients. I can either pay it or not. Supply and demand.

MonSooner
01-13-24, 02:33
I do. Either you pay the price or don't. Supply and demand. A pornstar can charge $1,200 an hour. A normal WG cannot do that. Go to Dubai and the European/Caucasian sex workers charge more than the Asian, African, and Middle Eastern sex workers. How do they know to charge more? Supply and demand.

Mongering and the sex industry is built off people who spend money. Not frugal thrifty cheap charlies. The sex industry caters towards the spenders, always has and always will.

There will never be a shortage of men willing to spend money on pussy, and the sex industry market will reflect that. Even outside of a brothel. 10 years ago prices were cheaper. And 10 years from now, the prices will be triple what they are today.

Supply and demand. My objective is to have sex with the hottest women available, and their objective is to charge as much as possible while also getting the most clients. I can either pay it or not. Supply and demand.This doesn't compute as you describe it. If it were supply and demand, with obviously a gigantic decrease in demand that we see these days, prices should go down. Which they never have.

If what you say were true, when demand was the highest in 2010 for example, prices should have been higher but they were much lower than today. If mongering was entirely built of big spenders why would all of Germany charge 50 in FKKs and make clients who could wear the finest silk wear a cheap uniform bathrobe instead?

If the same girl may work at Maxim today, tomorrow at GT and next week at Babylon, charging and making 3 entirely different hourly incomes, how is that supply and demand if the same guy has access to all 3 clubs easily. There are no barriers of entry or locked doors that define the ladies' market place or the monger's market place.

But I applaud you for what you wrote and described. It is perfectly correct in a normal economic environment. Not here, though.

Massimo Potente
01-13-24, 02:47
There will never be a shortage of men willing to spend money on pussy, and the sex industry market will reflect that. Never a shortage of men? From where I am sitting I see a huge shortage of guys who are willing to pay. And prices are going up in most places and down nowhere. Which ever way I look at it, I only see a reverse supply and demand scenario.

Tintin1
01-13-24, 18:36
Never a shortage of men? From where I am sitting I see a huge shortage of guys who are willing to pay. And prices are going up in most places and down nowhere. Which ever way I look at it, I only see a reverse supply and demand scenario.There was recently a long emphatic thread on either LH or Erotik about the rise in GT prices, especially among those punters who buy 5 packs. Which leads me to believe there is much more repeat core 'local' business at this club- or maybe much less. Makes some sense since it seldom figures in many of the English language forums. Also a few more positive Peepshow posts which would also lend credence to the idea that Price is driving happiness, or at least driving clients away.

MonSooner
01-13-24, 23:13
Which leads me to believe there is much more repeat core 'local' business at this club- or maybe much less. Makes some sense since it seldom figures in many of the English language forums.There used to be a really large number of regulars at GT for many years but most have reduced their frequency of visits drastically. Me too BTW. I hardly go anymore for the known reasons. By now I think you can call GT a club for tourists primarily. I don't think that is a bad thing and the girls are happy about it mostly as well it seems.

Skarz
01-15-24, 14:00
I think the biggest problem is that regulars get no respect or gratitude from the boss in GT, so they slowly started to not visit the place. It feels so weird, almost as if regulars are not wanted there anymore.

Massimo Potente
01-15-24, 21:21
I think the biggest problem is that regulars get no respect or gratitude from the boss in GT, so they slowly started to not visit the place. It feels so weird, almost as if regulars are not wanted there anymore.We regulars never got any visible respect from him. As long as the rest at GT was great, we couldn't have cared less and he felt the same, obviously. Maybe he regrets it now somehow or he doesn't. As it seems he doesn't give a flying F about anything that is going on there as long as he has dozens of girls work there. I explained exhaustingly why I think that is the case.

Massimo Potente
01-18-24, 16:28
We regulars never got any visible respect from him. As long as the rest at GT was great, we couldn't have cared less and he felt the same, obviously. Maybe he regrets it now somehow or he doesn't. As it seems he doesn't give a flying F about anything that is going on there as long as he has dozens of girls work there. I explained exhaustingly why I think that is the case.I don't know if it is a good sign or not but Maxim starts to have a lower number of Romanian girls at the club and more and more of them come from other areas of the globe.

Austrian, Spanish, Hungarian, Bulgarian.

I don't know though if that is a trend or just a moment in time. Just something that I noticed lately. They are also the ones that are getting the most praise in the local forums. Particularly Luisa and Emily but also Margo from Hungary.

People might also be biased. Personally I am super compatible with girls from Romania and have no bias in any direction.

MonSooner
01-19-24, 14:57
I don't know if it is a good sign or not but Maxim starts to have a lower number of Romanian girls at the club and more and more of them come from other areas of the globe.

Austrian, Spanish, Hungarian, Bulgarian.
I don't consider this to be necessarily a good or a bad sign and I expect it to be just temporary.

I agree about the existing bias or prejudice towards Romanians and I see why that would be the case. Let's say that variety is always good and new players come in, it's a step in the right direction. Since I know that Maxim is not rejecting Romanian applicants, I consider this to be nothing but a coincidence.

Massimo Potente
01-20-24, 13:01
Since I know that Maxim is not rejecting Romanian applicants, I consider this to be nothing but a coincidence.It is clearly not by design so it might be a coincidence. You are right, I guess. Clubs that "reject" Romanian girls are missing out big time in my opinion. Babylon made it very hard for Romanian girls to work there some time ago. I think in the 2000-2010 era but eventually they caved like everyone else.

Rocko20
01-21-24, 19:28
Never a shortage of men? From where I am sitting I see a huge shortage of guys who are willing to pay. And prices are going up in most places and down nowhere.Then there's no shortage of men willing to pay for sex.

There is no mongering destination on planet earth that has gotten cheaper. Only more expensive. And the girls are getting uglier, fatter, more tattoos and more fake boobs.

Yet it will continue to be more expensive because that's the way supply and demand works. There will always be far less young, natural, attractive WGs than there are fat, ugly, old, bald, and sexless men willing to buy it. Supply and demand.

Look back 10-15 years on this thread or any other thread on ISG, and people are still talking about price. Breaking news, 10-15 years from now people will still be talking about prices. And it will be 150 euros for 30 and 250 euros for 60. And people will talk about the “good ol days of 2024” when it was “only 100 for 30.”

Kib123
01-22-24, 00:24
Just came back from a short trip to Vienna where I had the pleasure to meet Daisy (https://darling.wien/en/escort/daisy/) and I must say I agree with the reviews found on her profile. If you are looking for some intense and passionate GFE, she is a must-try.Good to know. Any more such intel for outcalls welcome.

Heading back to Vienna for the first time in years, and one of my top 10 of all time remains an agency lady I banged in Vienna many years ago.

Skarz
01-22-24, 18:22
Good to know. Any more such intel for outcalls welcome.

Heading back to Vienna for the first time in years, and one of my top 10 of all time remains an agency lady I banged in Vienna many years ago.If the Daisy from the link is 20 years old, then she is probably not the one you met a few years ago. Maybe you mean Daisy who used to work at Maxim for so long and then went to Switzerland where she still works to this day?

Sirioja
01-22-24, 21:12
If the Daisy from the link is 20 years old, then she is probably not the one you met a few years ago. Maybe you mean Daisy who used to work at Maxim for so long and then went to Switzerland where she still works to this day?Yes, ex pornstar Daisi Diamond, ex superstar in Vienna, is at Globe since few years. Lovely and willing to please, but lack of sensuality for sex, maybe too much porn.

Tintin1
01-23-24, 02:22
A kind of favorite of mine for it's basic stripped down format. But I just noticed under services they have added a category called "Ad Ban in Vienna".

A couple of girls have 1 additional service, Andrada has 2. I'm curious if anyone wants to guess what it is, It's NOT Greek, so I assume it's related to AO?

Want to take a guess.

Max #01
01-23-24, 02:43
A kind of favorite of mine for it's basic stripped down format. But I just noticed under services they have added a category called "Ad Ban in Vienna".

A couple of girls have 1 additional service, Andrada has 2. I'm curious if anyone wants to guess what it is, It's NOT Greek, so I assume it's related to AO?

Want to take a guess.Peepshow Burgasse is "Try before you buy". I've never had a bad experience if you go in with realistic expectations.

Tintin1
01-24-24, 16:54
Peepshow Burgasse is "Try before you buy". I've never had a bad experience if you go in with realistic expectations.I've been 6 or 7 times. My question still stands. What is with this new "line" on some girls services list.

"Vienna Ad Ban" 1 additional service.

And Andrade has "2" additional services. I mean what in Vienna is an ad ban? Or is this just to make you want to see them. AO? Uncovered French? Just seems unusual.

Pdv55
01-24-24, 18:57
A kind of favorite of mine for it's basic stripped down format. But I just noticed under services they have added a category called "Ad Ban in Vienna".

A couple of girls have 1 additional service, Andrada has 2. I'm curious if anyone wants to guess what it is, It's NOT Greek, so I assume it's related to AO?

Want to take a guess.Do remember it being offered in some german language websites, even including cr*mpie if I got the translation right! Sounds nuts, I hope they check the clients reports before going ahead?

Massimo Potente
01-28-24, 19:11
I've been 6 or 7 times. My question still stands. What is with this new "line" on some girls services list.

"Vienna Ad Ban" 1 additional service.

And Andrade has "2" additional services. I mean what in Vienna is an ad ban? Or is this just to make you want to see them. AO? Uncovered French? Just seems unusual.Before the "ad ban", if I remember correctly, P.S. Burggasse usually only listed 3 uncovered service as follows:

OWO.

CIM.

Swallow.

I remember one single time in which a notorious AO girl was there and on her profile AO was listed. It was the first and last time so I don't expect them to have AO on the list anymore.

I hope this answers your question.

And as far as AO is generally concerned. It's still going openly on in many places but most of them are cheaper, neither respected nor recommended places.

The ad ban clearly had an effect on how some places advertise and there are even studios who were AO studios before but currently aren't anymore even though they could still offer it legally.

So, most AO is definitely going in illegal private apartments, it seems.

In other unrelated news: GT has raised the prices of half an hour. It is now officially 100. I am wondering about the hourly price because I actually don't know.

Shark16
01-28-24, 19:35
In other unrelated news: GT has raised the prices of half an hour. It is now officially 100. I am wondering about the hourly price because I actually don't know.Thank you for this update, Massimo.

The way my experiences in GT Vienna have been in the past I assume that 100 E /30 would be only for a basic CBJ / CFS session, and that normal services as DFK / DATY / BBBJ would be extras (each 50- 70 E extra depending on the girl, or at least 50E for each of DFK and BBBJ). What do you think?

- S16.

Massimo Potente
01-28-24, 19:43
Thank you for this update, Massimo.

The way my experiences in GT Vienna have been in the past I assume that 100 E /30 would be only for a basic CBJ / CFS session, and that normal services as DFK / DATY / BBBJ would be extras (each 50- 70 E extra depending on the girl, or at least 50E for each of DFK and BBBJ). What do you think?

- S16.I think they'll definitely try to get extra money for those services. Depending on the situation you might be able to negotiate a deal and get just pay for 1 extra if but get 2 of them but who knows what they will actually do. This is a very new development and there aren't enough reports to go by. Also regular customers will have different experiences because that has always been the case.

And I just heard that 60 minutes are now 200, so there you go, I found out quickly enough.

CIM is an additional 70 and anal 140.

Welcome to 2024.

Tintin1
01-28-24, 22:20
Before the "ad ban", if I remember correctly, P.S. Burggasse usually only listed 3 uncovered service as follows:

OWO.

CIM.

Swallow.

I remember one single time in which a notorious AO girl was there and on her profile AO was listed. It was the first and last time so I don't expect them to have AO on the list anymore.

I hope this answers your question.

And as far as AO is generally concerned. It's still going openly on in many places but most of them are cheaper, neither respected nor recommended places.

The ad ban clearly had an effect on how some places advertise and there are even studios who were AO studios before but currently aren't anymore even though they could still offer it legally.

So, most AO is definitely going in illegal private apartments, it seems.

In other unrelated news: GT has raised the prices of half an hour. It is now officially 100. I am wondering about the hourly price because I actually don't know.Thank you.

MonSooner
01-30-24, 00:30
This is unconfirmed and not first hand information but I just repeat it. If it turns out to be wrong, I will correct it later on.

February might bring the following entry fee prices at GT.

110€ for guys (95 before).

100€ for sexworkers (85 before).

Already confirmed sex prices.

Half an hour 100€.

Full hour 200€.

I am officially worried for GT. These increases seem sudden and very drastic and not proportional.

Pistons
01-30-24, 20:24
This is unconfirmed and not first hand information but I just repeat it. If it turns out to be wrong, I will correct it later on.

February might bring the following entry fee prices at GT.

110 for guys (95 before).

100 for sexworkers (85 before).

Already confirmed sex prices.

Half an hour 100.

Full hour 200.

I am officially worried for GT. These increases seem sudden and very drastic and not proportional.Do you know if these price hikes are also subject to GT Linz?

Massimo Potente
02-02-24, 17:13
FP rumours of shutting down very soon are only becoming louder and clearer. Right now, most people don't seem to have any doubts that the end is Nigh for FP.

The only arguments I am currently reading are whether GT is going to take the majority of FPs girls or if many of them will rather go to Fresh.

I think that when the day eventually and inevitably comes, former girls of FP will spread all over town and we will find them in all corners of Vienna consequently. GT doesn't have the capacity or the clients to take 20-35 girls under their wings who then can work profitably.

Good times ahead for clubs that are looking to recruit these days, I suppose.

Max #01
02-02-24, 20:11
FP rumours of shutting down very soon are only becoming louder and clearer. Right now, most people don't seem to have any doubts that the end is Nigh for FP.

The only arguments I am currently reading are whether GT is going to take the majority of FPs girls or if many of them will rather go to Fresh.

I think that when the day eventually and inevitably comes, former girls of FP will spread all over town and we will find them in all corners of Vienna consequently. GT doesn't have the capacity or the clients to take 20-35 girls under their wings who then can work profitably.

Good times ahead for clubs that are looking to recruit these days, I suppose.All things being equal, I wouldn't be surprised if many of the FP girls wind up at Fresh just because it's literally right down the street. There's also that big Laufhaus right up the street as well. Of course, I'm assumung the girls live pretty close to where they work.

Tintin1
02-02-24, 23:59
All things being equal, I wouldn't be surprised if many of the FP girls wind up at Fresh just because it's literally right down the street. There's also that big Laufhaus right up the street as well. Of course, I'm assumung the girls live pretty close to where they work.Fresh hasn't come up much in most conversations on this board or have I missed it. Worth a visit? Will be there in a couple months (vienna), and was planning on the regular haunts!

MonSooner
02-03-24, 15:15
Fresh hasn't come up much in most conversations on this board or have I missed it. Worth a visit? Will be there in a couple months (vienna), and was planning on the regular haunts!In my opinion not worth it unless you have an errand to run in this area anyway.

I'd call it something like the small brother of FP, just smaller and weaker. Since FP didn't have a good rep the last couple of years I think it's obvious why it's not mentioned often.

Fresh will benefit for sure if FP really closes. Which I think it eventually will.

Max #01
02-03-24, 19:18
Fresh hasn't come up much in most conversations on this board or have I missed it. Worth a visit? Will be there in a couple months (vienna), and was planning on the regular haunts!


In my opinion not worth it unless you have an errand to run in this area anyway.

I'd call it something like the small brother of FP, just smaller and weaker. Since FP didn't have a good rep the last couple of years I think it's obvious why it's not mentioned often.

Fresh will benefit for sure if FP really closes. Which I think it eventually will.Yes, it's generally ranked #3 of 3. For me, I go there because it's very easy to get there via the Wiener Lokalbahn tram. Get off at Neu Erlaa and it's literally a 100 m walk. It's also the farthest away, and the least known sauna club, which means none of my colleagues are likely to be there. There's a porn producer, Video Rudi, who generally holds gangbangs every two weeks. This actually hurts the business of the regular girls.

MonSooner
02-04-24, 00:04
There's a porn producer, Video Rudi, who generally holds gangbangs every two weeks. This actually hurts the business of the regular girls.A club in which Videorudi events are regularly held, is definitely already hurting. Not to take anything away from him. He is well-known in Vienna and does his job as good as it gets. More reputable clubs won't hold those events.

Kib123
02-11-24, 03:41
I didn't see any recent info regarding free ATMs in Vienna, so my experience may be of use to some.

I did a lot of legwork and found that almost all bank ATMs charge for withdrawal. The only free one I could find was BAWAG. The rest charged between 3 to 7 euros per withdrawal, with Bank of Austria being the most expensive.

Mongering report to follow soon.

Aoctenisan
02-13-24, 03:25
I didn't see any recent info regarding free ATMs in Vienna, so my experience may be of use to some.

I did a lot of legwork and found that almost all bank ATMs charge for withdrawal. The only free one I could find was BAWAG. The rest charged between 3 to 7 euros per withdrawal, with Bank of Austria being the most expensive.

Mongering report to follow soon.Try Denizbank.

KombatWombat
02-14-24, 07:51
How does the standard of girls at GT currently compare to other popular fkks?

I know price rises are always disappointing but 100 euros for half an hour is still cheaper than what I paid at Globe, pre-covid.

Max #01
02-14-24, 08:03
I didn't see any recent info regarding free ATMs in Vienna, so my experience may be of use to some.

I did a lot of legwork and found that almost all bank ATMs charge for withdrawal. The only free one I could find was BAWAG. The rest charged between 3 to 7 euros per withdrawal, with Bank of Austria being the most expensive.

Mongering report to follow soon.ATMs give you the option of debiting your account either in Euros or in your home currency. ALWAYS do the Euros option and let your own bank figure out the exchange rate! If you choose your home currency, the Austrian bank will give you a horrible exchange rate on top of the fee you're already paying.

TomCatInWarsaw
02-14-24, 17:40
Reporting on Peepshow Burggasse and Goldentime! (both on Tuesday).

Peep: Arrived around 6 pm. The entrance is far from discreet (there are 2 of them 10 m apart. You can entre from either one), but no one around seem to care. Nine girls were available, mostly Romanian with a Ukrainian (bit older) and a Hungarian (I assume she is from Transylvania). As is reported, you can buy a 10 EUR card to watch the girl on a stage for 10 min, or you can straight to book the girl. The guy on the front desk speaks good English. For 30 min (single shot), room 25 EUR and girl 55 EUR, paid at the front desk. They will give you a card for the room and ask you to give cash to the girl (I think they just want to check if you have cash). Some girls were busy. Not many customers.

I picked Tamara (the 'Hungarian') - relatively young, not so special in terms of physique. Though, quite talkative which I liked. She has some tattoos and she recently pierced her nipples. She said she will get another one for down there too. Overall, good experience / atmosphere for the money. I personally liked it.

GT: Haven't been there since COVID, so that is my main target. Arrived around 8 pm. 95 EUR entrance (as people mentioned). 100 EUR for 30 min, additional 50 for OWO. I assume many other services are +50 or higher. Not many clients (I guess almost one-to-one ratio). One of the girls told me because 1. Tuesday, 2. February, and 3. Too expensive (for girls too). She said because of the price increase, customers have less girls per night, and it becomes difficult for girls to survive. Maybe because of that, compared to, let's say Artemis in Berlin, I found the girls at GT today more talkative and less pushy. Many of them do not mind just talking to you before you politely decline their offers. They are not agressively suggesting to add additional services in the middle of the action. Also, I found the girls at GT to have relatively larger boobs (than, again, Artemis). Maybe, other FKKs have different types, but that was my impression. I had one session with one girl and another with two girls before I left around 11 pm. Both OWO, both very nice (I. E. No complaining).

Again, I had a nice time maybe because I lowered expectations these days, and maybe because it was Tuesday.

Skarz
02-15-24, 15:04
Report from Maxim Wien. Recently, there were a few disappointed reviews about Maxim, stating that the good-looking girls were always booked, and girls from the "2nd row" were not as attractive or a little older, MILF types.

However, this has totally turned around. Now, the line-up is very good, with around 20 girls in the club, and the staff said that more girls are coming. The renovations are also completed, and the club has seen significant improvements. Apart from the seasonal low business, Maxim looks better as a club, and the line-up now closely resembles what they had before the COVID-19 pandemic. At least, that's the case right now.

I will definitely check Celine in Maxim, she has a gorgeous body and a very nice face, small but natural breasts. I expect a very good session.

Massimo Potente
02-15-24, 16:38
How does the standard of girls at GT currently compare to other popular fkks?

I know price rises are always disappointing but 100 euros for half an hour is still cheaper than what I paid at Globe, pre-covid.If you mean in terms of looks then they are right up there with the better FKKs in other countries for sure.

BaltiX
02-15-24, 21:23
For future reference what are the best websites for independent escorts, especially those with Austrian girls?

SvenFKK
02-16-24, 22:12
Are there any good erotic-massage places in Vienna? In Frankfurt the rate is about 100–120 per hour, so preferably not much more than that price. Preferably not "tantra" themed (hard to say how seriously they take it; I'm not into esoterica at all). Best would be near the centre or east of the centre (1st or 2nd district).

InvincibleJohn
02-17-24, 18:57
Love the city of Vienna.

I was not sure SA scene in Vienna, so I messaged few girls via SA. Most of the girls responded and shared WA / TG.

Filter a college girl, she wanted to go meet at restaurant first for drinks. / dinner. Decided the date and time.

I got lucky, she was really beautiful mixed Latina girl. We went out for dinner & drinks. After that she agreed to spend night at my hotel. We had sexy body & not a pro. That was plus.

We had really nice sessions. Next day I contacted her again & met at hotel directly. It was really great experience.

She asked me not to share her TG ID, but SA scene is really good in Vienna.

Massimo Potente
02-18-24, 13:06
Love the city of Vienna.

I was not sure SA scene in Vienna, so I messaged few girls via SA. Most of the girls responded and shared WA / TG.

Filter a college girl, she wanted to go meet at restaurant first for drinks. / dinner. Decided the date and time.

I got lucky, she was really beautiful mixed Latina girl. We went out for dinner & drinks. After that she agreed to spend night at my hotel. We had sexy body & not a pro. That was plus.

We had really nice sessions. Next day I contacted her again & met at hotel directly. It was really great experience.

She asked me not to share her TG ID, but SA scene is really good in Vienna.What does "SA scene" stand for?

FunToosh6045
02-18-24, 16:14
What does "SA scene" stand for?I beleive its seeking arrangement a platform for sugar daddy dating.

FunToosh6045
02-18-24, 16:15
Love the city of Vienna.

I was not sure SA scene in Vienna, so I messaged few girls via SA. Most of the girls responded and shared WA / TG.

Filter a college girl, she wanted to go meet at restaurant first for drinks. / dinner. Decided the date and time.

I got lucky, she was really beautiful mixed Latina girl. We went out for dinner & drinks. After that she agreed to spend night at my hotel. We had sexy body & not a pro. That was plus.

We had really nice sessions. Next day I contacted her again & met at hotel directly. It was really great experience.

She asked me not to share her TG ID, but SA scene is really good in Vienna.Could you please explain how was the ask of allowance of the girls in general in vienna. Specially the girl you met. Would be appreciable act.

DietCoke18
02-18-24, 20:09
Back after a short trip to Vienna, which was entirely dedicated to escorting, as going out to clubs or studios wasn't an option this time. I wish it was, but I was tied up in crunch sessions at our company venue. Hosting an escort in our hotel was not a problem at all, though.

Against my better judgment and mostly because all Vienna escort agencies seem to host the same girls for months, I focused entirely on Booksusi and tried to score dates with independents. It looks easy and promising but proved to be annoying and disappointing.

I was going to post links to all the girls that I texted to give an overview and point users to who to avoid and who I'd recommend, but by now the links are mostly dead. This is due to the nature of Booksusi ads, which simply disappear whenever the girl collects too many negative reviews. She seems to deactivate one profile and opens a new one that is fresh and unscathed.

As it seems, at least one of them is still active, so here goes: https://booksusi.com/hostessen/wien/amira-hello-gentlemen-my.html

Obviously, this is an attractive profile with a girl who looks tempting, and I was immediately attracted to everything. The fact that she has a disclaimer in her profile that she won't have sex with guys whose dicks are too big or thick gave me a chuckle, and I found it to be refreshingly honest and intriguing at the same time. She is an independent girl, so she can choose her clients, I thought. Of course, by now I understand that this is the reddest of flags.

After texting her back and forth a little, this is the menu on top of her 150€:

Services extra.

Blowjob ohne Kondom EXTRA 50 €.

Fertig an den Brüsten EXTRA 30 €.

Sex zwischen dem Brüsten EXTRA 40 €.

Rollenspiele EXTRA 40 €.

Dominate EXTRA 40 €.

Strapon / Dildo EXTRA 40€.

Fetish EXTRA 30 €.

Kaviar EXTRA 60 €.

Natursekt aktiv EXTRA 40€.

I respectfully declined and got the hell out of this text chain.

Another girl with a much less attractive profile "offered" the following:

1 hour without extras 250.

And every additional extra like kissing, OWO, and 69, etc. 50 each.

Swallow would be 100 on top.

I got a few more reasonable offers from what I discovered later were AO girls, so I stayed clear from that as well. Nowadays it is not obvious which girl offers AO, as you have to trick and click yourself through the menu somehow. I personally have no problem if somebody wants to session with AO girls, but I won't and rather avoid girls who offer it, even if it comes with a hefty premium so that most people will decline because of the price. I decline rather because of the mere fact that she offers it at all.

So, my conclusion is everything is hard these days and while a catalogue of girls like that looks very inviting, the outcome is very open-ended ranging from great to terrible and you won't know what you'll get until you got it.

To me, this is the answer to the question of why quality escort agencies and clubs like Babylon or Maxim will never be rendered unnecessary. It is clubs and agencies that keep the prices in check and balance.

Usually, I would say FKKs are in this conversation as well, but since in Vienna there is only Goldentime that is a good sauna club and seeing that they have given up and surrendered to the girls' ridiculous demands, I only see clubs who still fight this problem.

InvincibleJohn
02-18-24, 23:36
It varies. Somewhere between 300-600 Euros. If you repeat same girl, they might be ok with 200-300 for subsequent meet.


Could you please explain how was the ask of allowance of the girls in general in vienna. Specially the girl you met. Would be appreciable act.

Diet Coke
02-19-24, 07:34
Back after a short trip to Vienna, which was entirely dedicated to escorting, as going out to clubs or studios wasn't an option this time. I wish it was, but I was tied up in crunch sessions at our company venue. Hosting an escort in our hotel was not a problem at all, though.

Greetings from Diet Coke.

Did you read reviews from BookSusi?

Massimo Potente
02-19-24, 12:02
I beleive its seeking arrangement a platform for sugar daddy dating.All right. Thanks for the answer. Good to know.

Yes, Sugar Daddy, Seeking, Tinder, Bumble. They are all available and alive in Vienna as well, as one would expect.

Massimo Potente
02-19-24, 12:08
Usually, I would say FKKs are in this conversation as well, but since in Vienna there is only Goldentime that is a good sauna club and seeing that they have given up and surrendered to the girls' ridiculous demands, I only see clubs who still fight this problem.That's right in my opinion. This only adds to my point when I argue that the "sexworker market" as it is now does not follow the rules of supply and demand as it should.

In clubs it somehow still works kind of but the independent scene is in turmoil and out of control.

As far as clubs are concerned that still hold up, there really only are the ones you mentioned.

Babylon, GT and Maxim have made an impressive comeback and the rest are still struggling. Many of which, I think at least, will not survive very much longer in this economic climate.

DietCoke18
02-19-24, 13:43
Did you read reviews from BookSusi?Yes, but I don't think many are real.

Tintin1
02-19-24, 19:48
Back after a short trip to Vienna, which was entirely dedicated to escorting, as going out to clubs or studios wasn't an option this time. I wish it was, but I was tied up in crunch sessions at our company venue. Hosting an escort in our hotel was not a problem at all, though.

Against my better judgment and mostly because all Vienna escort agencies seem to host the same girls for months, I focused entirely on Booksusi and tried to score dates with independents. It looks easy and promising but proved to be annoying and disappointing.

I was going to post links to all the girls that I texted to give an overview and point users to who to avoid and who I'd recommend, but by now the links are mostly dead. This is due to the nature of Booksusi ads, which simply disappear whenever the girl collects too many negative reviews. She seems to deactivate one profile and opens a new one that is fresh and unscathed.
To me, this is the answer to the question of why quality escort agencies and clubs like Babylon or Maxim will never be rendered unnecessary. It is clubs and agencies that keep the prices in check and balance.

Usually, I would say FKKs are in this conversation as well, but since in Vienna there is only Goldentime that is a good sauna club and seeing that they have given up and surrendered to the girls' ridiculous demands, I only see clubs who still fight this problem.Booksusi reviews are crap. I do cross check against Lusthaus but the board is most active just in Germany There is an Austrian board you can check as well. Erotikforum. A little more difficult to navigate. If you are looking for quick visit I find Peepshow convenient. You see the girls. Prices are listed. Lower cost of extras Much as GT is expensive I've had some good experiences and can get a feel before you head to the room. That's my number one complaint on out call. You are often texting with the handler not the lady.

Diet Coke
02-19-24, 23:12
Yes, but I don't think many are real.Yep some are, hard to tell which. One of my negative reviews was rejected by BS.

Kib123
02-20-24, 06:51
Based on the mostly negative comments, I had very low expectations on my recent trip to Vienna. However, the gods were on my side.

I had lined up Agency prospects, but all those went out the window when I tried Booksusi. I had 4 winners in a row, on 4 nights. A 5th tried to renegotiate the deal once in the room, and she was also the only one who didn't quite look like her pictures, so I politely said no and sent her on her way, no hard feelings. She asked for taxi money, and I gave her a 20. The only loss this trip.

My Booksusi successes were all Romanian, with very efficient handlers if they used them. Prompt responses. Menu and extras fully disclosed. Two of the ladies offered additional unadvertised extras once in the room, very reasonable rates. All spoke English except the one I turned away.

The dreaded a la carte menu most mongers mention was not quite the case in my experience. Most offered semi GFE (GFE with CBJ) for 110 - 130, full GFE (BBBJ included) added 20 to the base, so standard was 130 - 150 for full GFE. One offered only full GFE as the base for 150. Surprisingly, virtually all offered AO (officially or under the table) for 30-50 extra. All my experiences were outcalls, so the quoted rates were inclusive of transport.

All the experiences I had were as advertised or better. The ladies honored their menu to the letter, all delivered convincing IOP, and I ended up repeating with 2. Only word of caution is that the 'one hour' essentially means 1 pop for most. Granted, the ads say "up to 1 hour", so they got the legalese covered.

The first lady I met, Ariana (https://booksusi.com/hostessen/wien/ariana9-hallo-ich-bin-ariana-s.html) delivered the most memorable GFE, but also was quickest to leaver right after popping. I decided to repeat with her a few days later, and for some reason I could not get her to leave this time. Very friendly. Excellent GFE and seems to really enjoy herself.

Another one worth mentioning was the skinniest I have ever seasoned with, going by Maya (https://booksusi.com/hostessen/wien/maya-xxx-willkommen-meine-herren.html), about 20 yo. Just wanted to kick anorexic off my bucket list. She said she was deliberately anorexic and watches her weight carefully. Very submissive and good GFE, open menu.

Happy mongering my friends!

Thomas696
02-20-24, 23:01
Are there any good erotic-massage places in Vienna? In Frankfurt the rate is about 100120 per hour, so preferably not much more than that price. Preferably not "tantra" themed (hard to say how seriously they take it; I'm not into esoterica at all). Best would be near the centre or east of the centre (1st or 2nd district).Prices in Vienna in most good places are at least EUR 150 - EUR 200 per 1 hour if we are talking about salons or good independent masseuses who have a good appearance and know their stuff.

All 1 district.

Examples here.

http://erotischemassagewien.at/de/preise/

https://malisha.at/preise/

https://mia-massage.at/en/sex-massage-vienna-prices-info/

https://www.erotic-massage.com/contactform/viennaappointment.html

https://deluxetantramassage.com/incallmassageprices/

MonSooner
02-21-24, 01:05
Only word of caution is that the 'one hour' essentially means 1 pop for most. Granted, the ads say "up to 1 hour", so they got the legalese covered.I would say that this is specific to AO girls these days.

As far as AO is concerned Booksusi is the only viable option. They don't really honor the AO advertisement ban. With 2 clicks the filters are all set and AO is visible again.

Congrats on the successful trip and the good report. My personal opinion about Booksusi is still not positive.

Kib123
02-21-24, 04:39
Congrats on the successful trip and the good report. My personal opinion about Booksusi is still not positive.I hear you my man. Pretty sure if I stayed any longer my luck would have run out.

BaltiX
02-21-24, 05:08
Has anyone used Kaufmich in Vienna?

Massimo Potente
02-22-24, 11:46
Just a sober update based on what I saw.

As far as looks of the ladies are concerned Maxim is a good as ever again.

Almost didn't think they would be getting back to be as good as they once were but currently it is very good indeed.

Skinny teen like girls are:

Lena.

Adela.

Sibel.

For Tattoo lovers.

Nikky Slovakia.

Ruby.

Emily from Austria is 10/10 in terms of beauty and attitude.

Lucia from Spain is all you want to have in a Latina and more.

Virginia (Lucia's friend as it turns out) has almost DD boobs that are natural. And she is overall very pleasant as a type.

Celine is absolutely beautiful, slender and elegant. She is Ruby's BFF.

Rebecca has a huge butt but very pretty face and charisma.

There are just a few MILFs or MILF types that I personally would not session with but overall it is hard to choose these days.

Looking back at a 4 year journey since Covid hit, this is the best since before Covid for sure.

Maybe just a moment in time but tis is what you got in Maxim RIGHT NOW.

Ocerall there are around 25 girls in the lineup. Would't expect each day to have all of them available, of course as this varies and now is not a good period in which all girls need to work every day. I guess they save their energy and work less.

Sirioja
02-23-24, 06:03
Just a sober update based on what I saw.

As far as looks of the ladies are concerned Maxim is a good as ever again.

Almost didn't think they would be getting back to be as good as they once were but currently it is very good indeed.

Skinny teen like girls are:

Lena.

Adela.

Sibel.

For Tattoo lovers.

Nikky Slovakia.

Ruby.

Emily from Austria is 10/10 in terms of beauty and attitude.

Lucia from Spain is all you want to have in a Latina and more.

Virginia (Lucia's friend as it turns out) has almost DD boobs that are natural. And she is overall very pleasant as a type.

Celine is absolutely beautiful, slender and elegant. She is Ruby's BFF.

Rebecca has a huge butt but very pretty face and charisma.

There are just a few MILFs or MILF types that I personally would not session with but overall it is hard to choose these days.

Looking back at a 4 year journey since Covid hit, this is the best since before Covid for sure.

Maybe just a moment in time but tis is what you got in Maxim RIGHT NOW.

Ocerall there are around 25 girls in the lineup. Would't expect each day to have all of them available, of course as this varies and now is not a good period in which all girls need to work every day. I guess they save their energy and work less.What is girls rate? Thanks.

Massimo Potente
02-23-24, 15:51
What is girls rate? Thanks.1 hour 220 EURO.

Sirioja
02-23-24, 16:51
1 hour 220 EURO.I prefer this for a high level in bed real beauty than 160/60 for average Romanians not kissing at Wellcum. How much is entry?

In Germany, can have high quality for 150/60 or even 100/60 .

HelloTitty
02-24-24, 20:30
I prefer this for a high level in bed real beauty than 160/60 for average Romanians not kissing at Wellcum. How much is entry?

In Germany, can have high quality for 150/60 or even 100/60 .Its 20 and I got some 10 coupon which I've spent on a champagne. Interesting was the second and third time I've visited the security guy recognized me and let me in for free. I didn't ask but my guess is that returning customers get in for free.

MonSooner
02-25-24, 16:43
Here is an English version of the report of 3 dead Asian sexworkers in a sex studio in the 20th district.

https://sex-vienna.com/2024/02/25/three-women-found-dead-in-sex-studio-attack/

MikeMark
02-28-24, 07:16
Arrived in Vienna after 3 days in London with full days business business schedule everyday and only a very small (2. 5 hours window) on Tuesday afternoon. Had tried to do my homework before arriving but the small window and the fact that business partners were staying with me in the 5 star Park Hyatt precluded any in-room entertainment.

I hadn't been in Vienna since 2006 so all points of reference from back in the day went completely out the window. Add to the fact, that it was fucking freezing cold ended any thoughts of hitting the red light area that actually looked pretty good when I was doing my homework.

I have been to Frankfurt's FKK clubs several years ago and the experiences at Oase and Sharks had been mind-boggling. So I took a chance and went to Goldentime FKK around 330 PM knowing I had a 730 dinner reservation that I was paying for!

I jumped in a taxi thinking it would be about ten minutes from my hotel. That turned into 30 minutes. Ugh.

It is a bit expensive 95 euros to enter. If you would stay the day, not so expensive as it includes food, soft drinks etc. Liquor is priced at about 5 euros per drink which you pay for with chips purchased at the front desk. The girl at the front desk. A very hot 40 something tall blond. Spoke English and gave me the rundown. The same drill as every other FKK I had been to. A robe, towel and two lockers. One for your clothes and a smaller one by the front desk for your money, phone and wallet.

By the time I entered, it was already after 4 PM. Knowing I probably had another 30+ minute cab ride back to Central Vienna, I had probably a one shot deal for an hour with the nicest working girl I could find in the place! Basically all or nothing.

I entered and was immediately accosted: rofl1: by two very pretty Romanian Girls about 20 years old one tall and blond Celine with a huge pair of (for me) off putting fake cans and a smaller very cute brunette Anna who offered to give me a tour of the place. I politely blew them off and opted to do a walk around myself. There were probably 18-20 girls walking, lounging, laying around. All nude except for spiked heels and makeup which must have been the uniform of the day here. All the girls without exception were 7 to 9 on the TPM scale. Very very pretty. But probably 2/3 had fake cans which I personally do not like.

I was struck at how much smaller (about 1/2 the area) of Sharks and Oase in Frankfurt area this place was. The place was not that big at all and it was completely open. I passed by the buffet and it looked ok. I had a drink at the bar and for 5 euros. I didn't die. So all good. The outside area is the smoking area and had a pool. It was about 18 F outside and there a couple of people outside actually smoking. Too crazy.

I re-entered walked to the bar to finish my drink and it was now after 5 PM. I was under the gun. A gorgeous 23-25 YO blond with Natural the cups 5'6" and thin as rail with pierced nipples Emma approached me. Absolutely stunning to the point where Junior almost came to attention through the robe. She began speaking to me in German and then switched flawlessly to English. She claimed to be German though I suspect she was not (probably Russian or Eastern European). I bought her a drink. We talked for about five minutes about pricing. 500 Euros would buy me everything for an hour including BBBJ, anal and "any other perversions" that came across my mind. But absolutely no BBFS or BB anal. For this price I could cum twice in an hour.

Off we went to a room, she brought sheets. Covered the large mattress that took up about 3/4 of the room and we were off to the races. Round one consisted of a fabulous BBBJ, fucked her in CG, RCG, Mish and then Doggie Anal where I blew pop #1.

She then exited the room, came back with a hot towel, cleaned me up, changed the sheets again, fluffed up the pillow and we talked awhile as she played with Junior. Lots of DFK and nice conversation. She asked me how long I would be in Vienna. And as I didn't have my phone. She took my phone number and told me she would be available to come to the hotel. I told her I was staying at the Park Hyatt. She told me she would be discreet. : rofl1:

With 15 minutes left on the clock, she went down on me again. Got Junior to attention. On went the condom and she asked what I would like to do. I said more anal. She climbed on top put Junior in her ass and grinded me to Pop #2!

Absolutely exceptional. Definitely a 9 and would have been a 10 if BBFS was available. Unfortunately, no photos allowed. Though I do have her phone number if anyone is passing through Vienna. : ko:

On to Paris.

Diet Coke
02-28-24, 17:30
Arrived in Vienna after 3 days in London with full days business business schedule everyday and only a very small (2. 5 hours window) on Tuesday afternoon. Had tried to do my homework before arriving but the small window and the fact that business partners were staying with me in the 5 star Park Hyatt precluded any in-room entertainment.

I hadn't been in Vienna since 2006 so all points of reference from back in the day went completely out the window. Add to the fact, that it was fucking freezing cold ended any thoughts of hitting the red light area that actually looked pretty good when I was doing my homework.

I have been to Frankfurt's FKK clubs several years ago and the experiences at Oase and Sharks had been mind-boggling. So I took a chance and went to Goldentime FKK around 330 PM knowing I had a 730 dinner reservation that I was paying for!

I jumped in a taxi thinking it would be about ten minutes from my hotel. That turned into 30 minutes. Ugh.

It is a bit expensive 95 euros to enter. If you would stay the day, not so expensive as it includes food, soft drinks etc. Liquor is priced at about 5 euros per drink which you pay for with chips purchased at the front desk. The girl at the front desk. A very hot 40 something tall blond. Spoke English and gave me the rundown. The same drill as every other FKK I had been to. A robe, towel and two lockers. One for your clothes and a smaller one by the front desk for your money, phone and wallet.

By the time I entered, it was already after 4 PM. Knowing I probably had another 30+ minute cab ride back to Central Vienna, I had probably a one shot deal for an hour with the nicest working girl I could find in the place! Basically all or nothing.

I entered and was immediately accosted: rofl1: by two very pretty Romanian Girls about 20 years old one tall and blond Celine with a huge pair of (for me) off putting fake cans and a smaller very cute brunette Anna who offered to give me a tour of the place. I politely blew them off and opted to do a walk around myself. There were probably 18-20 girls walking, lounging, laying around. All nude except for spiked heels and makeup which must have been the uniform of the day here. All the girls without exception were 7 to 9 on the TPM scale. Very very pretty. But probably 2/3 had fake cans which I personally do not like.

I was struck at how much smaller (about 1/2 the area) of Sharks and Oase in Frankfurt area this place was. The place was not that big at all and it was completely open. I passed by the buffet and it looked ok. I had a drink at the bar and for 5 euros. I didn't die. So all good. The outside area is the smoking area and had a pool. It was about 18 F outside and there a couple of people outside actually smoking. Too crazy.

I re-entered walked to the bar to finish my drink and it was now after 5 PM. I was under the gun. A gorgeous 23-25 YO blond with Natural the cups 5'6" and thin as rail with pierced nipples Emma approached me. Absolutely stunning to the point where Junior almost came to attention through the robe. She began speaking to me in German and then switched flawlessly to English. She claimed to be German though I suspect she was not (probably Russian or Eastern European). I bought her a drink. We talked for about five minutes about pricing. 500 Euros would buy me everything for an hour including BBBJ, anal and "any other perversions" that came across my mind. But absolutely no BBFS or BB anal. For this price I could cum twice in an hour.

Off we went to a room, she brought sheets. Covered the large mattress that took up about 3/4 of the room and we were off to the races. Round one consisted of a fabulous BBBJ, fucked her in CG, RCG, Mish and then Doggie Anal where I blew pop #1.

She then exited the room, came back with a hot towel, cleaned me up, changed the sheets again, fluffed up the pillow and we talked awhile as she played with Junior. Lots of DFK and nice conversation. She asked me how long I would be in Vienna. And as I didn't have my phone. She took my phone number and told me she would be available to come to the hotel. I told her I was staying at the Park Hyatt. She told me she would be discreet. : rofl1:

With 15 minutes left on the clock, she went down on me again. Got Junior to attention. On went the condom and she asked what I would like to do. I said more anal. She climbed on top put Junior in her ass and grinded me to Pop #2!

Absolutely exceptional. Definitely a 9 and would have been a 10 if BBFS was available. Unfortunately, no photos allowed. Though I do have her phone number if anyone is passing through Vienna. : ko:

On to Paris.Nice report, with costs etc. But how much to Emma and how long in room?

MikeMark
02-28-24, 20:52
Nice report, with costs etc. But how much to Emma and how long in room?She charges 200 Euros for a basic hour with BBBJ.

I splurged and went for the premium service 500 Euros for about an hour and half of everything with MSOG.

To be honest, had I had more time. I would have indulged with more girls at a cheaper rate but I was so time constrained by my arrival time and my dinner appointment. That I went overboard on what I thought was the best looking girl without fake tits.

Sirioja
02-28-24, 21:04
Nice report, with costs etc. But how much to Emma and how long in room?500/60? So expensive for piercings on nipples to break a tooth.

TheRugdr
02-29-24, 09:15
We talked for about five minutes about pricing. 500 Euros would buy me everything for an hour including BBBJ, anal and "any other perversions" that came across my mind.Wow, that's a lot to pay for an hour at GT Wien. In recent years I have paid 100 for 30 minutes of GFE, including BBBJ and DFK, with my last visit being September 2022. It used to be be 70 until some of the more in demand girls started increasing prices back in 2018/2019.

Max #01
02-29-24, 16:54
Arrived in Vienna after 3 days in London with full days business business schedule everyday and only a very small (2. 5 hours window) on Tuesday afternoon. Had tried to do my homework before arriving but the small window and the fact that business partners were staying with me in the 5 star Park Hyatt precluded any in-room entertainment.

I hadn't been in Vienna since 2006 so all points of reference from back in the day went completely out the window. Add to the fact, that it was fucking freezing cold ended any thoughts of hitting the red light area that actually looked pretty good when I was doing my homework.

I have been to Frankfurt's FKK clubs several years ago and the experiences at Oase and Sharks had been mind-boggling. So I took a chance and went to Goldentime FKK around 330 PM knowing I had a 730 dinner reservation that I was paying for!

I jumped in a taxi thinking it would be about ten minutes from my hotel. That turned into 30 minutes. Ugh.A little late now, but you could have taken the S-7 train from Landstraße and gotten off at Geiselbergstraße. It's about a 15-minute ride and a 5-minute walk to the club.

Skarz
03-06-24, 15:45
She charges 200 Euros for a basic hour with BBBJ.

I splurged and went for the premium service 500 Euros for about an hour and half of everything with MSOG.

To be honest, had I had more time. I would have indulged with more girls at a cheaper rate but I was so time constrained by my arrival time and my dinner appointment. That I went overboard on what I thought was the best looking girl without fake tits.You know yourself that you overpaid her. It would have been nice of Emma to charge you honestly, but she took the chance and got the maximum. But all good if you feel that this 1. 5 hours was worth it for you with her.

Merylrelative
03-08-24, 13:09
Anyone with experience with any of the following agencies. Emerald-escortswien, darling wien or forbiddenfruits-escort?

Also do hotels generally make problems with outcalls?

Eryk9021
03-16-24, 02:10
Hi folks,

Being few days in Vienna I planned to visit few nice looking girls there. Previousy I had good experience with Davina and Lorette (Studio Love Place, in 2021) and with Jessy (Studio Relaxe), all provided good AO experience. Also Andra in Studio La Chica, but that was not a good experience (burned money).

This time I wanted to discover AO studio at Schuettelstrasse 33, as they have pictures of nice looking girls. Nadia was my preferred choice, great looking from pictures, good reviews on BookSusi, I was really horny to meet her. In studio Nadia was not looking that good as on pictures. I still decided for 1 h + extra (130/ h + 50/ ao euro) That was a huge mistake.

I was lead to a small room, with no shower, and room was under construction (Shockingly, girl wanted to start action without me taking any shower! I had to request that at least I clean up my hands!

Reviews on BookSusi sugests that Nadia offers perfect, passionate GFE. Nothing could be further from the truth! She lies there and shows no initiative. Almost no conversation. She seems to be dull, stupid, not interesting person. Shows zero smile and is only interested in short session.

(by the way, she has some terrible skin condition on the whole back, leftovers after acne maybe?

Few forced kisses. 2 minutes of oral without condom (too strong and too fast). I did not want to even try 69 in those dirty circumstances. Sex did not work well, because penetrating her pussy was very limited! (on BS some people mention that she uses 'spirale' inside? That may be also a technique to simple annoy customers so they will interrupt session quicker!

So as a last resort I had to finish with handjob.

Then I requested a massage, which she unwillingly started. She used only one hand for that!

And that very sloppy and very lazy massage was only for 5 minutes, after which she said that her hand is now tired!

Then she just lies on the bed doing nothing, zero initiative!

30 minutes into session I decided to finish this terrible and dissapointing experience, which she happily accepted.

That is easily my top 5 bad experiences of all times. Now I consider this whole place almost a scam.

I don't think other girls in this studio deliver any better service, and I don't want to ever check it out!

AVOID THIS STUDIO!

Skarz
03-16-24, 15:42
Hi folks,

Being few days in Vienna I planned to visit few nice looking girls there. Previousy I had good experience with Davina and Lorette (Studio Love Place, in 2021) and with Jessy (Studio Relaxe), all provided good AO experience. Also Andra in Studio La Chica, but that was not a good experience (burned money).

This time I wanted to discover AO studio at Schuettelstrasse 33, as they have pictures of nice looking girls. Nadia was my preferred choice, great looking from pictures, good reviews on BookSusi, I was really horny to meet her. In studio Nadia was not looking that good as on pictures. I still decided for 1 h + extra (130/ h + 50/ ao euro) That was a huge mistake.

I was lead to a small room, with no shower, and room was under construction (Shockingly, girl wanted to start action without me taking any shower! I had to request that at least I clean up my hands!

Reviews on BookSusi sugests that Nadia offers perfect, passionate GFE. Nothing could be further from the truth! She lies there and shows no initiative. Almost no conversation. She seems to be dull, stupid, not interesting person. Shows zero smile and is only interested in short session.

(by the way, she has some terrible skin condition on the whole back, leftovers after acne maybe?

Few forced kisses. 2 minutes of oral without condom (too strong and too fast). I did not want to even try 69 in those dirty circumstances. Sex did not work well, because penetrating her pussy was very limited! (on BS some people mention that she uses 'spirale' inside? That may be also a technique to simple annoy customers so they will interrupt session quicker!!Thanks for the report. You described exactly what is wrong with such AO studios. You mentioned that you did not have a chance to take a shower. But who knows when she had her last shower and if she took a shower between her previous client and you? Her terrible skin condition can also be a red flag about lack of hygiene.

In conclusion, your report is consistent with what you can expect to get in most AO studios. And that is mostly just a gross experience more than anything.

Diet Coke
03-16-24, 20:42
Thanks for the report. You described exactly what is wrong with such AO studios. You mentioned that you did not have a chance to take a shower. But who knows when she had her last shower and if she took a shower between her previous client and you? Her terrible skin condition can also be a red flag about lack of hygiene.

In conclusion, your report is consistent with what you can expect to get in most AO studios. And that is mostly just a gross experience more than anything.Eryk9021 had said he had good AO service from Jessy at Studio Relaxe in the past. I had seen she was available a few weeks ago. Do you include there for gross experience?

Eryk9021
03-17-24, 02:00
Eryk9021 had said he had good AO service from Jessy at Studio Relaxe in the past. I had seen she was available a few weeks ago. Do you include there for gross experience?I think Jessy is a notable exception. When I was in Vienna 2 weeks ago she was unfortunately on holidays. I just checked the schedule now and it seems she is back. I would highly recommend meeting her if anyone has a chance. That's my only safe bet for Vienna. For me it was a GFE experience with her, where AO option was just to take it to the next level.

Massimo Potente
03-17-24, 15:29
The AO situation in Vienna and the studios in which it is offered has changed considerably since the advertisement ban.

Yes, most studios that used to be somewhat okay in the past are now gross. This is not because of the AO but because of the owners who don't maintain it properly. You can make of this correlation what you will.

Studio Schuettelstrasse 33 girls defnitely do not have the happiness of the clients in mind. They offer a service for a given price and the rest is take it or leave it. What the international clientiele, which will be made up by most of the users of this forum, don't know is that there are even some Hungarian studios (probably all of them run by the same owner (s)) which made a business of offering their pregnant girlfriends on Booksusi. First advertising the pregnancy and upon their return offering mother milk. So, this can be gross to you or sexy.

Either way it is definitely factual.

Studio Relaxe in Lschenkohlgasse is not in the gross category if you ask me and they run a more or less clean business, even if AO is on the table which isn't the case with each girl.

It's all fair game, go and have fun where ever you please. But if there is a warning like that, take it into consideration when planing your sexual adventures.

And since Jessy has been positively mentioned. She is really sweet but one must know that, when topless, her breasts are not exactly "pointing north" anymore which has beed topic of discussion among some of the Studio Relaxe clients. Service wise she is the best there in that studio for a while aleady.

Steve 9696
03-18-24, 01:55
Studio La Chica is mentioned below it I can't tell if it was the bad experience. Anyone else have direct experience with Studio La Chica? It has great google reviews and not all reviewers are single posters (sign of fakes). But this board has the best intel. Studio La Chica anyone?

HelloTitty
03-19-24, 06:41
Studio La Chica is mentioned below it I can't tell if it was the bad experience. Anyone else have direct experience with Studio La Chica? It has great google reviews and not all reviewers are single posters (sign of fakes). But this board has the best intel. Studio La Chica anyone?La Chica and Studio Relaxe are almost the same. They used to be under one wing and have separated a while ago. The prices and everything else is still the same. Among AO studios they are keeping up. But as far as I know not all ladies there offer AO. There are merely 4 studios in Vienna left that sometimes have AO girls and also maintain a certain quality.

Relaxe and La Chica, Amore Lounge (but hardly any girl still offers AO there anymore), Studio Savage Johnstraße (same thing, almost no girl offers AO officially).

The trend is going away from AO and I don't mind because it could be an overall improvement of the situation. It surely is what the police intended when they made the advertisement ban.

Steve 9696
03-19-24, 15:53
La Chica and Studio Relaxe are almost the same. They used to be under one wing and have separated a while ago. The prices and everything else is still the same. Among AO studios they are keeping up. But as far as I know not all ladies there offer AO. There are merely 4 studios in Vienna left that sometimes have AO girls and also maintain a certain quality.

Relaxe and La Chica, Amore Lounge (but hardly any girl still offers AO there anymore), Studio Savage Johnstrae (same thing, almost no girl offers AO officially).

The trend is going away from AO and I don't mind because it could be an overall improvement of the situation. It surely is what the police intended when they made the advertisement ban.Love your handle. LOL. Thanks good info. Not really into AO w working girls tho BBBJ is mandatory. So happy to see quality rise even of CFS.

DietCoke18
03-24-24, 20:35
I have a feeling that the quality of the girls in Vienna, especially in terms of gorgeousness, is going down. This city was always a hub of the best girls but lately I see a lot of problems. Nowadays you can never be sure that the images in the ads are honest, sometimes they show a completely different girl. And if not, the images are a few years old or photoshopped.

I know that these problems existed a few years ago as well, but lately things have gone worse, a punter now almost has the same chance to be scammed than to find an honest girl. And this is a very bad ratio.

MonSooner
03-26-24, 01:42
I have a feeling that the quality of the girls in Vienna, especially in terms of gorgeousness, is going down. This city was always a hub of the best girls but lately I see a lot of problems. Nowadays you can never be sure that the images in the ads are honest, sometimes they show a completely different girl. And if not, the images are a few years old or photoshopped.

I know that these problems existed a few years ago as well, but lately things have gone worse, a punter now almost has the same chance to be scammed than to find an honest girl. And this is a very bad ratio.I don't know all the reasons but I can speak to that at least a little. Vienna has 3 main problems or obstacles that make it less attractive for ladies with class to work here. That is in comparison to Zrich, Paris or Milano for example. Or Ibiza and Dubai.

1. prices are generally low for a business city like Vienna and on top of that, people also.

2. ask about AO way too often but are just as often not willing to pay the adequate premiums for very open-minded ladies.

3. sex catalogues like Booksusi came through as the only alternative when clubs were closed during lockdowns. A huge number of clubs never recovered which even more so decreases good recruitment by clubs. As a Consequence many new girls tend to Booksusi for lack of having many good clubs to choose from. And I thought of a fourth reason as I am typing.

4. only Vienna is the waiting time for the work permit so hard to obtain. In some towns you can have it within a day. In Vienna it is at least a week and can be more than that depending on circumstances and bad timing etc. Also in Vienna girls need 2 cards to work legally. In most other towns in Vienna just one card as far as I heard.

IAmSlobbyist
03-26-24, 14:26
The Sex Vienna website wonders why people even go there. Despite the unkind review, I decided to go there since it was 1. 5 km walk from my hotel. Easy to find on a quiet street just off some main roads. There is no one to greet you as you enter. You just walk in and start perusing the halls and look at the pictures of the available girls. There is 5-6 stories of rooms. It is a little awkward running into fellow mongers, but who cares. I saw two other punters.

I love black women, so I choose Brandy. https://www.zollgasse3.at/laufhaus-wien-mitte/detail/brandy-exotic-at-its-best/ Even better is she is a dark skinned Colombian. She opened the door and was super sexy and looked exactly like the pictures. The review blasted the bait and switch quality of the pictures, but with my choice, pics were spot on. I would say she was even sexier in person. Price was 100 E for 30 minutes. I took a shower, and we immediately started making out. No DFK, but a nice LFK while we started to explore each other's bodies.

She went down on me and immediately started fingering my ass without me even requesting it. I figured a condom was slipped on because it felt good, but not exceptionally good. I flipped her over and there was indeed a condom on me. I started to go down on her delicious pussy and she loved it. I dined for a good 5-10 minutes and even licked her ass. She was super clean and absolutely no strong tastes or smells.

I then proceeded to start fucking her in missionary position. After a few minutes of this, I flipped her over for doggy. I went down on her ass again before continuing full service sex from behind. She felt great from behind. I contemplated pulling off the condom and going for breast sex, but doggy felt so good I finished in the wrapper here. I cleaned up and was on my way.

As I was leaving, I tried to get a little more information about pricing. I asked if owo was on the menu, but she either does not do bbj or she did not understand my question. Either way, it was clear her English was not that great, so if you are looking for a particular service, you might need to use a translate app. I was happy with the service as it was as we had great chemistry, so that offset any downers about the CBJ. I probably will not repeat because there are too many options in Vienna, but I would recommend if you like sexy dark skinned Latinas.

Massimo Potente
03-26-24, 18:16
The Sex Vienna website wonders why people even go there. Despite the unkind review, I decided to go there since it was 1. 5 km walk from my hotel. Easy to find on a quiet street just off some main roads. There is no one to greet you as you enter. You just walk in and start perusing the halls and look at the pictures of the available girls. There is 5-6 stories of rooms. It is a little awkward running into fellow mongers, but who cares. I saw two other punters.

I love black women, so I choose Brandy. https://www.zollgasse3.at/laufhaus-wien-mitte/detail/brandy-exotic-at-its-best/ Even better is she is a dark skinned Colombian. She opened the door and was super sexy and looked exactly like the pictures. The review blasted the bait and switch quality of the pictures, but with my choice, pics were spot on. I would say she was even sexier in person. Price was 100 E for 30 minutes. I took a shower, and we immediately started making out. No DFK, but a nice LFK while we started to explore each other's bodies.

The Laufhauses in Zollgasse and Juchgasse often get unkind reviews because they do things differently than most other comparable Laufhauses. Personally I don't find it fair to blame the Laufhaus if some ladies of the house scam clients or at least treat them poorly. Technically it is not their responsibility and management barely steps in and bans girls as far as I know.

There was one case that I remember from last year as one of the stars of the house Andrea was forever banned. We don't know to this day what the problem was but it had to be something spectacularly bad. She now is sitting in Vienna's probably worst Laufhaus in Raaberbahngasse. Be it as it may, Zollgasse and Juchgasse are very well maintained houses with clean and modern rooms each with a shower if I am not mistaken. So, that is already better than a few others.

What is true is that some ladies in Zollgasse have been providing horrific service for a long time and are still allowed to work there. As another example and despite really angry reviews on every possible review board, Lisa.

https://www.zollgasse3.at/laufhaus-wien-mitte/detail/lisa/

Is still there. Big warning also from my side. I never got personally scammed by her but hear me when I say: avoid at all cost. Literally every other girl in the house is better choice than she is.

In conclusion I would say that Zollgasse and Juchgasse have dealt with the lockdown aftermath better than any other Laufhaus in Vienna. Given the fact that they focus on the ladies who are bringing the money in (and not us clients) they did a brilliant job in almost always being fully booked. That is all they need to do in order to be successful.

Howie
03-26-24, 20:04
The Laufhauses in Zollgasse and Juchgasse often get unkind reviews because they do things differently than most other comparable Laufhauses. Personally I don't find it fair to blame the Laufhaus if some ladies of the house scam clients or at least treat them poorly. Technically it is not their responsibility and management barely steps in and bans girls as far as I know.

There was one case that I remember from last year as one of the stars of the house Andrea was forever banned. We don't know to this day what the problem was but it had to be something spectacularly bad. She now is sitting in Vienna's probably worst Laufhaus in Raaberbahngasse. Be it as it may, Zollgasse and Juchgasse are very well maintained houses with clean and modern rooms each with a shower if I am not mistaken. So, that is already better than a few others.

What is true is that some ladies in Zollgasse have been providing horrific service for a long time and are still allowed to work there. As another example and despite really angry reviews on every possible review board, Lisa.

https://www.zollgasse3.at/laufhaus-wien-mitte/detail/lisa/

Is still there. Big warning also from my side. I never got personally scammed by her but hear me when I say: avoid at all cost. Literally every other girl in the house is better choice than she is.

In conclusion I would say that Zollgasse and Juchgasse have dealt with the lockdown aftermath better than any other Laufhaus in Vienna. Given the fact that they focus on the ladies who are bringing the money in (and not us clients) they did a brilliant job in almost always being fully booked. That is all they need to do in order to be successful.I was in Vienna this past weekend and tried to see Tatiana at Juchgasse 11. Seems she was busy all day Saturday and left on Sunday so no luck. Profile pics are pretty hot.

https://www.juchgasse11.at/maedchen-laufhaus-wien/laufhaus/tatiana-friendly-fire/

I stopped by also to check out Vanessa, Ella and Ammy. These three are quite ordinary looking in real life so did not bite.

https://www.juchgasse11.at/maedchen-laufhaus-wien/laufhaus/vanessa-lets-talk-about-sex/

https://www.juchgasse11.at/maedchen-laufhaus-wien/laufhaus/ella-sexiness-guaranteed/

https://www.zollgasse3.at/laufhaus-wien-mitte/detail/ammy-sweet-surprise/



In the past, I have tried at least half a dozen ladies at both Zollgasse 3 or Juchgasse 11. Only had one bad experience from those visits. The rest have been fairly ok.

The current ladies there now that I have fucked in the past are Pamela, Flori, Tiffany and Aly. All are fairly representative of their profile pics. These ladies are pretty honest and are pretty good fucks.

https://www.zollgasse3.at/laufhaus-wien-mitte/detail/pamela-life-style/

https://www.zollgasse3.at/laufhaus-wien-mitte/detail/flori-personal-dream-girl/

https://www.zollgasse3.at/laufhaus-wien-mitte/detail/tiffany-private-dancer/

https://www.zollgasse3.at/laufhaus-wien-mitte/detail/aly-flamenco-erotico/



In addition to Tatiana, on my to do list is Angelina.

https://www.zollgasse3.at/laufhaus-wien-mitte/detail/angelina-upper-class/

Would like to hear if any anyone has tried out Tatiana or Angelina and can feed back details.

Howie.

MonSooner
03-27-24, 11:32
Juchgasse and Zollgasse mostly get unkind feedback for the fact that the pictures are misrepresenting the girls as they barely look as great as the pictures make it seem.

Skarz
03-27-24, 22:01
Juchgasse and Zollgasse mostly get unkind feedback for the fact that the pictures are misrepresenting the girls as they barely look as great as the pictures make it seem.The biggest red flag for me is when the pictures show something different from real life.

Djizz
04-06-24, 16:12
So, the million dollar question: are all of you AO guys on Prep? Otherwise it's nuts.

LA Traveller
04-06-24, 21:12
(posting in Vienna and Bratislava as she is in both markets).

Melissa is in my opinion the most beautiful girl in VIPEUROPEESCORT (and that is a pretty hot group) but after seeing her she sets a new standard. She is a top European model and runway girl so is private and discrete as she has a brand to protect. She has won major world pagaents and been featured in advertising and modeling around the world. I just assumed a girl this stunning might be bland in the bedroom or cold & high maintenance- but Melissa is a true "purple unicorn"- humble and happy and smart and loves sex- she is an all rounder and a real once in a lifetime experience (her and Yve are my two favorites at this agency) and I haven't found anything like this anywhere in the world.

I get some PM messages about the amounts of money we are talking about asking if it's better to go independent? I know its a lot of $$$ and everyone works hard for their money but I will tell you if you are traveling internationally and staying in a 5 star hotel and paying for 2 peoples meals and drinks and entertainment you might as well go for the most elite girls- and these girls in the USA would easily be 2-3 times the cost and wouldn't be offering CIA, ATM, SWO, Swallow services so I really recommend you to go to an agency if you are seeing girls outside of your country, but use an agency only if its reputable. I have had good independent experiences but I also had 1-2 wasted vacations and its just not worth it in my opinion someone like Martin who is going to vet the girl, know their menu, ensure they are safe and tested, ensure they turn up and are on time and have the contact information of the girl and leverage with them should anything go wrong is an essential value-add. For me he has told me not to see some girls even though he loses money because he knows what I value and that probably saved me thousands of dollars and there is just no way you can get access to a girl like Melissa in the independent scene- they care too much about privacy, safety and are too busy.

Onto Melissa- she is a minx- and within a few minutes of meeting Melissa we were making out like school kids and she stalled me seated, anal, BBBJ, ATM and multiple holes penetrated before a spectacular facial load of ropes. She is intuitive and sexy all the time and she had me finger banging and masturbating her in an uber until the seat and her dress had a puddle of wetness, she gave me a handjob at the bar pool cabana, an amazing BBBBJ on the patio, I fucked her ass in the outdoor glass jacuzzi, elevators were always for her to feel me up and get me hard and my little guy looked like he had been to war after the three days. All chaffed and beaten up from so much sex.

She had such chemistry and control of me just a whisper and she had me at attention and she knew it- she asked me if I wanted to bring a girl home, she would say good morning and follow it up with "I want your cock in my ass is it ok? . its so fucking hot like a real porno. She would wake me up with a sloppy blowjob when it was still dark then go straight back to sleeping without talking about it.

She would compliment me like I was the model- all the time about how I dress, talk, my body and so appreciative over every little thing I did. She knows how to be authentic but to build up her man to feel like a man and this is an eastern european women thing- but they have such reverence and respect for their man and want to be perfect for him- she would always be perfectly put together and smelling amazing with perfect hair and make-up 24/7.

It was amazing to be the center of the earth and so loved. Physically, emotionally and the illusion of being a real girlfriend built over days she made it very authentic and memorable and that takes a ton of effort and energy. She told me after a trip like this she needs two or three days alone because she invests so much of her energy into pleasing someone it takes time to recover and I believe it.

Martin and these girls will only allow SWO with strict testing on both sides so it's safe and if you pay the uncharge you can get royal service with no restrictions and that makes it all the more out of this world and intimate. A little about her body- it's an absolute playground- all access and from her towering hight and long shapely legs to her perky tight boobs that have a natural pleasing feminine curve to her tight abs and lightly and femininely muscular arms to her perfect pouty blowjob lips and her pussy is tight and very easily aroused to wet and a pink gash just so perfect with those perfect legs- its like a group of men got together and designed the most sexual being ever. She has mad skills deep, deepthroat no feeling any teeth and incredible face fuck like she is on a mission- her body is built for exceptional anal. Just the most perfect round perky ass with that thigh gap and toned legs and she takes anal in every position and deep and hard was just stunning skills and so many different positions. She showed me her workout routine and it was thousands of squats so her ass is all natural but takes enormous dedication.

Alex Green
04-11-24, 18:24
Hi everyone.

I am planning a visit at the end of this month to Vienna. I have been reading the boards about quite some time now about vienna's escort scene. I've noticed that everybody is mainly focused on clubs, what about independent girls that offer incall? Would anybody please help with a couple of names, fees and the quality of service.

Thanks in advance.

XXL
04-12-24, 04:39
So, the million dollar question: are all of you AO guys on Prep? Otherwise it's nuts.If only there were a "Safe sex" or an "Aids" thread in this forum on which to post such a question!

Skarz
04-16-24, 11:07
I was at Maxim on Saturday. The club wasn't too crowded, so I had the chance to select the lady of my choice in peace. I hadn't checked the Maxim website, so it was not aware that there was a new girl. She looked the same as you can see in her pictures: https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/denisa/.

Overall atmosphere was good and relaxed. While Denisa was obviously the one I had to have more than anything, I could have easily sessioned with at least another 4 or 5 girls. But they were the usual suspects like Ariana, Bella, Sibel, Lena or Sophia who in my opinion now is only the 2nd most beautiful girl at Maxim.

It was obvious that Saturday was Denisa's first night as staff was still setting her up and walking on egg shells around her which is a clear sign. She wore some kind of pink latex outfit, a bit slutty and not on par with what Maxim girls usually wear, but the dress perfectly showed her immaculate body. She's a 10 out of 10 if you like this kind of darker, sensual type. 18 years old, no tattoos, no surgical enhancements, all natural.

She was shy in the room, not wild, but eager to please me. I knew after a minute that she meant business and was serious about making it in Vienna.