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Thanks for the help Carnevalisticus, fingers crossed I will get there to have a look around.
Hello gents,
I'm looking for some recommendations for cheap flights from Germany to Canada (YYZ) for this July. If you can kindly recommend some good websites for that, I'd be very grateful.
Thanks a lot.
Carnevalisticus
06-02-08, 12:00
Try to get infos from KLM, they once had cheap flights from Shiphol/Amsterdam .
Or contact L-Tur Duesseldorf/airport telnr. 0211 414031, if you are lucky you get Hassan or David on the phone. They are both very helpfull, I booked more than 50 flights with them.
Good luck,
C.
DJ FourMoney
06-12-08, 07:46
Has every German based monger that isn't married given up totally on the freebie world?
I spent some days in Frankfurt last year and while I chatted up a Brit and a couple of American girls at the Hostel I used, I found myself challenged when finding where all the cute German girls where.
After talking to German women that I'm not interested in more than friendship in, have told me that I needed to "hunt" around US military sites, which would seem a bit obvious but I have a problem with explaining why I was there? These are not holiday locations usually being deep in the boonies of Germany, surrounded by small towns and cities.
I was told to go to Berlin instead and I didn't listen...
I am venturing back to Europe I hope after Sept and wanted to land in Germany, spend a couple of days there but didn't want to rely solely on FKK's and Privates to get some "action" I think I can do good just meeting some girls and have it pay off in a few days as my intentions are Long Term anyway.
Help a Brotha out!
Any disco/nightclubs you can suggest???
Has every German based monger that isn't married given up totally on the freebie world?
I spent some days in Frankfurt last year and while I chatted up a Brit and a couple of American girls at the Hostel I used, I found myself challenged when finding where all the cute German girls where.
After talking to German women that I'm not interested in more than friendship in, have told me that I needed to "hunt" around US military sites, which would seem a bit obvious but I have a problem with explaining why I was there? These are not holiday locations usually being deep in the boonies of Germany, surrounded by small towns and cities.
I was told to go to Berlin instead and I didn't listen...
I am venturing back to Europe I hope after Sept and wanted to land in Germany, spend a couple of days there but didn't want to rely solely on FKK's and Privates to get some "action" I think I can do good just meeting some girls and have it pay off in a few days as my intentions are Long Term anyway.
Help a Brotha out!
Any disco/nightclubs you can suggest???
... waiting for Oktoberfest in Muenchen and Karneval in Koeln (and other parts of the Niederrhein).
That is when the entire populace, women included, get in a really loose mood which is primarily alcohol induced.
DJ FourMoney
06-16-08, 23:37
... waiting for Oktoberfest in Muenchen and Karneval in Koeln (and other parts of the Niederrhein).
That is when the entire populace, women included, get in a really loose mood which is primarily alcohol induced.
But I heard the beer is watered down???
I don't drink anyway, why would I be there other than trolling for punai? lol
I guess that's as good as reason as any for being there.
Thanks Jackyo... ;)
Anybody can help me with sim cards? Can one just buy them at kiosk stands like in some other countries?
Anybody can help me with sim cards? Can one just buy them at kiosk stands like in some other countries?
There are a lot of carriers offering a prepaid sim card. You have to activate your card by internet or phone. The carrier has to check your identity, will be mostly done by checking your adress. The reason is that the carriers has to verify that their aren't any anonymous users.
I used congstar some weeks ago and used the name and adress of a friend to activate it by internet. Worked without any problem. You can load 5 oder 30 euro to the card by buying a voucher at a gas station or a discount store. Convenient and easy.
whomer
Anybody know of any action here? I will be staying at the Holiday Inn which is near the station I believe. I don't know enough about Germany to pick up on the existing reports to know if there is anything close by. Would love to find a FKK club if possible.
I'm used to stay in Passau in a hotel very close to Passau called "Schloss Neuburg". Search in the internet, easy to find.
Rates are very good, one of the best hotels in that region. Good restaurant, nice "biergarten".
Until last year the hotel the hotel owner was able to arrange a massage with BBBJ for me. Total damage 130 euro + taxi, directly to the girl. Never asked where they came from.
I heard the hotel has now a new management. Stayed only once at the hotel in this year. But didn't try this service.
2 years ago I had a GFE with one the employees, 20yo, german. A little bit shy, but great.
I heard furthermore from a hotel in "Griesbach", 25 min away by car. Small village, famous for golf. a couple of hotels. One of the leading hotels is "Maximilian". 5*, very nice place.
You can ask the concierge for support, they can organize it for you. Don't ask the girls at the frontdesk!
Massage at the spa is only for relaxing and medical issues. No additional services.
whomer
There are a lot of carriers offering a prepaid sim card. You have to activate your card by internet or phone. The carrier has to check your identity, will be mostly done by checking your adress. The reason is that the carriers has to verify that their aren't any anonymous users.
I used congstar some weeks ago and used the name and adress of a friend to activate it by internet. Worked without any problem. You can load 5 oder 30 euro to the card by buying a voucher at a gas station or a discount store. Convenient and easy.
whomerWhat do you mean by carriers? Where are they located?
Sounds great. But it will be a problem for those people, like me, that dont have the adress in germany or a friend that does so. I guess the hotel adress cant be used.
Thanks alot for the info.
What do you mean by carriers? Where are they located?
Sounds great. But it will be a problem for those people, like me, that dont have the adress in germany or a friend that does so. I guess the hotel adress cant be used.
Thanks alot for the info.
Search in google for prepaid and handy. You will find some providers or carriers. Or go to shop or department store when you are in Germany and ask for a prepaid sim card. I did it several times in Munich (at Hertie and Karstadt: T-Mobile and Congstar). I used my home adress without any problem. Once I didn't need any information. Just a name, that was it. Worked fine. Read in some articles that congstar is quite cheap. But there are a lot of providers. It depends how much you want to use the mobile phone.
And it is a good idea to use a local sim card, the roaming costs are expensive.
whomer
Please, Anyone knows if BBBJ is forbidden in some areas in Germany? And,m if so, where? Which are the best FKK in Germany?
Thanks!
Please, Anyone knows if BBBJ is forbidden in some areas in Germany? And,m if so, where? Which are the best FKK in Germany?
Thanks!
1) Yes, there are laws in Bayern against BBBJ.
2) Best FKK in Deutschland? That is a subjective thing. It depends on your requirements and your tastes. I have no idea what your requirements and tastes are.
Read the FAQ under the FKK thread written by yours truly.
Count the number of posts for each individual FKK club thread and you will have an immediate consensus as to the most visited FKK clubs by ISGers. (Such a list would not reflect my personal tastes, for the record, but I am a contrarian and prefer to go off the beaten path).
Are you a relative newbie and speak no German? If yes, then the method above for identifying clubs you should visit should work out just fine for you.
By the way: ask a specific question and you will get help from someone on the forum. Ask general questions such as this and you will likely be ignored.
The forum is a self-service forum. Do read as much as you can. Then ask. Don't expect this information to be handed to you on a silver platter. You need to do some work for yourself first.
CurryMonster
10-26-08, 08:46
Some girls list "Zungenanal" ("tongue anal" as a literal) in services, and I've also seen it used basically interchangably with "anal bei ihn" (anal on you, loosely).
Does it exclusively refer to rimming, or does it also encompass a more general concept of anal play? I'm quite keen there be no misunderstanding in case I make enquiries and suddenly get faced with a lot more than I was bargaining for.
Some girls list "Zungenanal" ("tongue anal" as a literal) in services, and I've also seen it used basically interchangably with "anal bei ihn" (anal on you, loosely).
Does it exclusively refer to rimming, or does it also encompass a more general concept of anal play? I'm quite keen there be no misunderstanding in case I make enquiries and suddenly get faced with a lot more than I was bargaining for.
.. so I can't say for sure what it includes.
It does imply tongue on anus contact, that is for sure.
The preposition "bei" by the way, takes on the Dativ so you would write "bei ihm" and not "bei ihn" which is in the Akkusativ.
Anal play would be Analspiel. That would be a more general term encompassing all anal activity. Or maybe Analerotik.
No, I don't know how you'd say "going medieval on your ass" in German.
I know many folks use dating or bride sites. For sure, bar pickups exist everywhere for normal girls.
In my experiences around the world, hostels provide the easiest place to meet and bed otherwise normal women.(even if I am in some hotel elsewhere) Most places will let you rent a single if they have them, once the need arises.
Premise works, since the girls are away from home and already have no expectation of seeing you again and just like you are not local ;)
FFKs have their place, but free and normal works too ;)
Has every German based monger that isn't married given up totally on the freebie world?
I spent some days in Frankfurt last year and while I chatted up a Brit and a couple of American girls at the Hostel I used, I found myself challenged when finding where all the cute German girls where.
After talking to German women that I'm not interested in more than friendship in, have told me that I needed to "hunt" around US military sites, which would seem a bit obvious but I have a problem with explaining why I was there? These are not holiday locations usually being deep in the boonies of Germany, surrounded by small towns and cities.
I was told to go to Berlin instead and I didn't listen...
I am venturing back to Europe I hope after Sept and wanted to land in Germany, spend a couple of days there but didn't want to rely solely on FKK's and Privates to get some "action" I think I can do good just meeting some girls and have it pay off in a few days as my intentions are Long Term anyway.
Help a Brotha out!
Any disco/nightclubs you can suggest???
Member #2718
11-16-08, 11:13
Try Maxim's near the Kurfursdam. I've had good luck if you want to spend the time and effort...
Has every German based monger that isn't married given up totally on the freebie world?
I spent some days in Frankfurt last year and while I chatted up a Brit and a couple of American girls at the Hostel I used, I found myself challenged when finding where all the cute German girls where.
After talking to German women that I'm not interested in more than friendship in, have told me that I needed to "hunt" around US military sites, which would seem a bit obvious but I have a problem with explaining why I was there? These are not holiday locations usually being deep in the boonies of Germany, surrounded by small towns and cities.
I was told to go to Berlin instead and I didn't listen...
I am venturing back to Europe I hope after Sept and wanted to land in Germany, spend a couple of days there but didn't want to rely solely on FKK's and Privates to get some "action" I think I can do good just meeting some girls and have it pay off in a few days as my intentions are Long Term anyway.
Help a Brotha out!
Any disco/nightclubs you can suggest???
What do you guys think about a new thread for exchanging opinions and experiences about german women?
Angus Magee
11-21-08, 18:25
What do you guys think about a new thread for exchanging opinions and experiences about german women?
I assume that you mean non-pros? I would find that interesting and it may inspire me to meet some. My last experience with a non-pro German woman was a nightmare. She was, IMO, a bit of a psycho. After a half an hour of talking with her I would be questioning my own sanity and wondering which way was up & down. I have stuck to P4P ever since.
What do you guys think about a new thread for exchanging opinions and experiences about german women?
Do you mean non-pros?
I know lots of German non-pros and can only say that if you get to know them before they turn neurotic, they are great to hang out. Most are quite uncomplicated.
By the time they turn thirty or so though, Torschlusspanik sets in and some of them can't come to terms with it. Its their equivalent to a mid-life crisis.
But then again, most women no matter where they are from go through this too.
French women, however, no matter of what age, are complicated, even tiring.
Do you mean non-pros?
I know lots of German non-pros and can only say that if you get to know them before they turn neurotic, they are great to hang out. Most are quite uncomplicated.
By the time they turn thirty or so though, Torschlusspanik sets in and some of them can't come to terms with it. Its their equivalent to a mid-life crisis.
But then again, most women no matter where they are from go through this too.
French women, however, no matter of what age, are complicated, even tiring.Amen to the above.
Give me a German woman over a French one anyday.
I assume that you mean non-pros? I would find that interesting and it may inspire me to meet some. My last experience with a non-pro German woman was a nightmare. She was, IMO, a bit of a psycho. After a half an hour of talking with her I would be questioning my own sanity and wondering which way was up & down. I have stuck to P4P ever since.
Yes indeed I mean non-pros. I am glad you have the same opinion with me. I lived in Germany for some years and I had negative experiences with german women!
Do you mean non-pros?
I know lots of German non-pros and can only say that if you get to know them before they turn neurotic, they are great to hang out. Most are quite uncomplicated.
By the time they turn thirty or so though, Torschlusspanik sets in and some of them can't come to terms with it. Its their equivalent to a mid-life crisis.
But then again, most women no matter where they are from go through this too.
French women, however, no matter of what age, are complicated, even tiring.
I never really thought about it, but now that you mention it, I realize that it is indeed usually the case .
It's long time ago that I lived in Germany, but after I realized that my chances to spend nice time with german girls are not good, I decided to look for other nationalities :D
My budget for p4p was not high, so I didn't even look for expensive clubs. Today things have changed and FKK clubs are on the top of my list every time I am in Germany!
I understand black men are well received at most of the FKK clubs, but what about the private apartments? Do these girls discriminate?
Not all FKK clubs are color blind. There are persistent reports about guys being turned down at the reception at Goldetime from time to time, for example. This seems to mostly apply to Middle Eastern and Arab looking men. But other guys have been turned down there too. It seems to be a random thing and it seems to depends on who the chick at the reception is.
There are specific FKK clubs which will turn you down at the front door saying that the club is for members only. This is code for "Germans only". Look to see if there is a German flag flying in front of the club.
The Alperbeck club (which is a former Red Carpet club) is notorious for this.
You can sometimes overcome this if you create a good impression, specifically if you speak fluent, accent free German even if you may not look German. How is your German? If you come across as an educated person you will create a much better impression than if you can only speak in pidgin German.
One of our distinguished colleagues on the Partytreff Forum, Dark Vader, has been turned down at various PTs. He is black. He also has had a great time at other clubs.
Remember that its also one thing for them to take your money at the reception and let you in, its another thing for the women to provide you with service. As we are reminded every now and then, the women have the right to refuse service to whoever they want.
So in answer to your question, it depends. The women have their prejudices but so then do you and I and everyone else for that matter.
By the way, you don't want to session with a chick who sends you signals that she doesn't want to be with you. Her body language won't lie.
If she smiles at you when you smile at her, that is a good sign. If you can make her laugh, then you will both have a good time.
Its amazing how some guys ignore these things and then complain afterwards that they had a bad time.
I looked around to find some information on escort services, but I didn't find any deticated forum for that. Is there any forum I missed?
Angus Magee
12-12-08, 18:26
I looked around to find some information on escort services, but I didn't find any deticated forum for that. Is there any forum I missed?
There are no escort specific forums here on ISG. Each city's forum will contain some escort info if members have posted such info.
There are other websites with more extensive escort info but they are German forums. In any case I only really know about the Berlin scene.
There are no escort specific forums here on ISG. Each city's forum will contain some escort info if members have posted such info.
There are other websites with more extensive escort info but they are German forums. In any case I only really know about the Berlin scene.
Do you guys think that it is needed to have a deticated forum about escort services? After making a research in the web, I realized that it is not a small field.
In my opinion, it should be a forum direct under Europe and not specific in any Country
Do you guys think that it is needed to have a deticated forum about escort services? After making a research in the web, I realized that it is not a small field.
In my opinion, it should be a forum direct under Europe and not specific in any Country
... a good alternative to the FKK clubs or the Wohnungspuffs because a) they are more expensive, b) its hit or miss, c) you have no recourse if you have a problem, d) you can't screen the women like you can at an FKK club, e) the women and agencies come and go - its way too transient.
Same thing with the street scene.
... a good alternative to the FKK clubs or the Wohnungspuffs because a) they are more expensive, b) its hit or miss, c) you have no recourse if you have a problem, d) you can't screen the women like you can at an FKK club, e) the women and agencies come and go - its way too transient.
Same thing with the street scene.
I agree with the points you are mentioning, but it's interesting to have a lady with you for a couple of days and if you are lucky to experience real GFE.
Have you ever tried this by the way?
The reason for starting this discussion, is that in my opinion it is necessary to have a forum deticated to Escort Services, so that the members can report which agencies/ladies to avoid and which are recommended.
I agree with the points you are mentioning, but it's interesting to have a lady with you for a couple of days and if you are lucky to experience real GFE.
Have you ever tried this by the way?
The reason for starting this discussion, is that in my opinion it is necessary to have a forum deticated to Escort Services, so that the members can report which agencies/ladies to avoid and which are recommended.
I've met German dudes who visit Thailand and find temporary girlfriends for their vacations. They basically move in with you, cook your meals, take you around and you have sex as often as you want.
Its affordable there. It would be outrageously expensive in Germany.
So nope, I've not tried it.
I've met German dudes who visit Thailand and find temporary girlfriends for their vacations. They basically move in with you, cook your meals, take you around and you have sex as often as you want.
Its affordable there. It would be outrageously expensive in Germany.
So nope, I've not tried it.I've been to thailand many times, and the GFE there Is totally different than In the west. Some of the girls pretend to like you, and yes It Is fairly cheap to take girls longtime.
I am thinking about going to the KitKat club, there will be a big event in KOLN this month! Just wondering if anyone has every been to the KitKat club events in Berlin or Koln and is there any advise!
Thanks
Hi guys,
I was wondering if anyone knew of about the establishment called Private Studios in Deusseldorf? I looked at their website but the women seem to beautiful to be true. Here is the website:
http://www.termingirls.com/now_available.php
I will be making a week long fkk tour around March 15th and would like to know if this place is worth visiting.
Thanks for any info you may about this place!
A few words about street prostition
Muhlheimer strasse, Duisburg. Zoo Parkplatz: maybe a visitor in Germany is in a car on a dark wet evening and sees a procession of cars going slowly bumper to bumper along three rows of a large car park (maybe the size of a football pitch or two) in apparent convoy. On the assumption that a crowd means something of interest to some people it may be worth investigating. A quick turn off the road into the car park to join the convoy.
Along each unlit avenue of trees marking each row there emerge one by one,separated by maybe 10 -20 metres, into the headlights a variety of women, dressed mainly in jeans, but a few with boots and short skirts. In total about 15 women on a cold wet night. All unmistakenly interested in the drivers. Cost is 30E (or just 20E for oral only). A woman goes off in a customer’s car to a far part of the car park and return in under ten minutes. The women include under 25s, east European, asian, and are generally slim to medium build.
No idea what the place looks like in daylight when it reverts to a Zoo carpark. Who clears up the mess and debris of used condoms and papers?
Compared to an FKK this may not be good value, but it is something which, in variation, exists is quite a few towns in Nordwest Rhein Westphalia. However this does not mean street prostitution is always ok – in some places there are local prohibitions – for example there is a total prohibition around Charlottenstrasse in Dusseldorf (near the Hauptbahnhof), enforced by police patrols, and in Am Probsthof in Bonn it is allowed only between 20.00 and 06.00. Other permitted locations include Pferdebahnstr in Essen
A few words about street prostition
Muhlheimer strasse, Duisburg. Zoo Parkplatz: maybe a visitor in Germany is in a car on a dark wet evening and sees a procession of cars going slowly bumper to bumper along three rows of a large car park (maybe the size of a football pitch or two) in apparent convoy. On the assumption that a crowd means something of interest to some people it may be worth investigating. A quick turn off the road into the car park to join the convoy.
Along each unlit avenue of trees marking each row there emerge one by one,separated by maybe 10 -20 metres, into the headlights a variety of women, dressed mainly in jeans, but a few with boots and short skirts. In total about 15 women on a cold wet night. All unmistakenly interested in the drivers. Cost is 30E (or just 20E for oral only). A woman goes off in a customer’s car to a far part of the car park and return in under ten minutes. The women include under 25s, east European, asian, and are generally slim to medium build.
No idea what the place looks like in daylight when it reverts to a Zoo carpark. Who clears up the mess and debris of used condoms and papers?
Compared to an FKK this may not be good value, but it is something which, in variation, exists is quite a few towns in Nordwest Rhein Westphalia. However this does not mean street prostitution is always ok – in some places there are local prohibitions – for example there is a total prohibition around Charlottenstrasse in Dusseldorf (near the Hauptbahnhof), enforced by police patrols, and in Am Probsthof in Bonn it is allowed only between 20.00 and 06.00. Other permitted locations include Pferdebahnstr in Essen
Local prohibitions block off certain areas and streets from this activity in order to get some control over it.
In some instances the women drive to the area in camper vans and you can retire to a more comfortable setting than just finding a corner in the woods or being serviced in your car.
DJ FourMoney
04-07-09, 20:20
I assume that you mean non-pros? I would find that interesting and it may inspire me to meet some. My last experience with a non-pro German woman was a nightmare. She was, IMO, a bit of a psycho. After a half an hour of talking with her I would be questioning my own sanity and wondering which way was up & down. I have stuck to P4P ever since.
LOL, how come I don't find that unique at all... I think its safe to say within Western Culture you can find your assorted "fruits and nuts" in the dating pool.
I think a specific thread on German women might be helpful overall. I have been exposed to German women and German culture on a small scale and on the surface it has enough in common with the US to make it far beyond tolerable for dating and long term relationships.
Nothing will put a thumping on your wallet faster than a typical American woman thus I find the general pragmatism of most European women to be refreshing.
I scrapped plans for late last year in favor of a much more in depth long term plan using either The Netherlands or Germany as my base of operations with the goal being to date locally whenever possible.
Is there some interest in this?
DJ FourMoney
04-07-09, 20:31
Not all FKK clubs are color blind. There are persistent reports about guys being turned down at the reception at Goldetime from time to time, for example. This seems to mostly apply to Middle Eastern and Arab looking men. But other guys have been turned down there too. It seems to be a random thing and it seems to depends on who the chick at the reception is.
There are specific FKK clubs which will turn you down at the front door saying that the club is for members only. This is code for "Germans only". Look to see if there is a German flag flying in front of the club.
The Alperbeck club (which is a former Red Carpet club) is notorious for this.
You can sometimes overcome this if you create a good impression, specifically if you speak fluent, accent free German even if you may not look German. How is your German? If you come across as an educated person you will create a much better impression than if you can only speak in pidgin German.
One of our distinguished colleagues on the Partytreff Forum, Dark Vader, has been turned down at various PTs. He is black. He also has had a great time at other clubs.
Remember that its also one thing for them to take your money at the reception and let you in, its another thing for the women to provide you with service. As we are reminded every now and then, the women have the right to refuse service to whoever they want.
So in answer to your question, it depends. The women have their prejudices but so then do you and I and everyone else for that matter.
By the way, you don't want to session with a chick who sends you signals that she doesn't want to be with you. Her body language won't lie.
If she smiles at you when you smile at her, that is a good sign. If you can make her laugh, then you will both have a good time.
Its amazing how some guys ignore these things and then complain afterwards that they had a bad time.
My best sessions happen when it was plainly obvious she was interested in me. Being of color I was slightly surprised, but not shocked. I find that if you have a problem with anything and you think it has to do with your skin color, move on, there is surely somebody else out there that finds you interesting or will be happy to do business with you.
BTW my German is strictly the basics.... Yes, No, Thank You and "No Problem"
AColonizer
05-24-09, 17:43
What do you mean for 20 euros/oral? A swallow blowjob? Moreover, di you see a lot of Ukrainian girls there? Or which places do you think we could find a lot of Ukrainian girls in Germany?
A few words about street prostition
Muhlheimer strasse, Duisburg. Zoo Parkplatz: maybe a visitor in Germany is in a car on a dark wet evening and sees a procession of cars going slowly bumper to bumper along three rows of a large car park (maybe the size of a football pitch or two) in apparent convoy. On the assumption that a crowd means something of interest to some people it may be worth investigating. A quick turn off the road into the car park to join the convoy.
Along each unlit avenue of trees marking each row there emerge one by one,separated by maybe 10 -20 metres, into the headlights a variety of women, dressed mainly in jeans, but a few with boots and short skirts. In total about 15 women on a cold wet night. All unmistakenly interested in the drivers. Cost is 30E (or just 20E for oral only). A woman goes off in a customer’s car to a far part of the car park and return in under ten minutes. The women include under 25s, east European, asian, and are generally slim to medium build.
No idea what the place looks like in daylight when it reverts to a Zoo carpark. Who clears up the mess and debris of used condoms and papers?
Compared to an FKK this may not be good value, but it is something which, in variation, exists is quite a few towns in Nordwest Rhein Westphalia. However this does not mean street prostitution is always ok – in some places there are local prohibitions – for example there is a total prohibition around Charlottenstrasse in Dusseldorf (near the Hauptbahnhof), enforced by police patrols, and in Am Probsthof in Bonn it is allowed only between 20.00 and 06.00. Other permitted locations include Pferdebahnstr in Essen
All About Asians
05-30-09, 15:26
hi everybody intereszed in mongering in germany.
i am a german and therefore can maybe be of some help for you coming to germany and wanting to enjoy some girls here. i live in the state of north rhine westfalia and will post some more details in the city threads fpr bonn and düsseldorf,the main area of my mongering.
as you all can see by my nickname i am mostly interested in asian girls. so my experience is mostly with nice small thai girls who offer bbbjcim and anal as this are my favorites.
i have had also some east europe girls, but only a few, some of them will offer you all without cover, but i never choose this option.
i think i start by giving a few general facts about prostitution in germany.
working girls can be found in different locations
1. strassenstrich - street prostitution, without a car it is not of interest to go there, because the deed is done in your car, most of the girls working the street come from east europe or/and are drug addicts. you´ll find a "strassenstrich" in every mayor city, but i never got a girl there. prices should start there with 20 or 30€.
2. laufhaus - eros center, many girls working in a big house were you walk in and have a look at the girls who are standing in the doors to their rooms.
prices should start from 30€ for oral and/or sex.
3. wohnungspuff - appartments, where 1 or more girls offer there service. usually you make an appointment by phone before, where you also have the chance to ask more details about service and price. in most cases you´ll go for 1/2 or full hour with prices ranging from 50-100€ for half hour. some extras like anal or cim may be charged extra.
4. clubs - prices may very, but again there i never went and i dont have more detailde information.
to find some girls i can recomend following webpage:
http://www.sexrelax.de/region/kategorie/girls-privatclubs
the page is in german, but you get some details about girls and service mostly in appartments, but also some clubs and fkks.
to help you along i will give a translation of most of the offert services:
französisch - bj
französisch ohne - bbbj
französisch total - bbbjcim
französich beidseitig - daty
gesichtsbesamung - facial
körperbesamung - cob
spanisch - titfuck
ns - [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103)
sop take a look, call the girls ( most will speak some english ) and enjoy.
for any questions.... feel free to ask
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Hello All,,
Just dropping in your wonderful country for a few weeks and thought I’d start with a quick update. …. I'm posting this here since it covers such a vast area.
My adventure started in Munich, I arrived a little later then I had planned on Friday . So after checking in and a quick shower I headed over to Machtifingrtstrasse 24, did a quick walk through and then headed over to #12. I was in the mood for asian , so I went back to house 24 and looked at Wolke7 (???) Cherry was on my list, along with two others who were not posted that night. I rang her bell and she came out. Much different then what is posted on ladies.de. I thought ok, she’s not that bad, a solid 7. “Stretch Marks, like she’s had a baby or two” Not at all like the pictures. But, very doable. I mean I never f*cked a 10, and I wouldn’t a pay to f*ck five twos either :o). So off to her room, and let me thank all of you for your info. I downloaded close to 80% of the post in the German thread to include FKKs and Party houses. Ok back to the report. We undress and I lay 100 euros on the nightstand. I didn’t ask for the services, or negotiate any thing. She started to caress me and her hands wonder all over. A little BBJ action, I rolled her into a 69 position and off I went. Next thing I know she’s sitting on my face and I’m tongue fucking her. She cums …. I know, I have the face to prove it….LOL. Anyway, condom goes on, I didn’t even notice. She rides me cowgirl and then to doggie and we finish with me pounding her in mish. Afterwards, we laid there, for a minute or two. She cleaned me up and told me to roll over for a massage. Not at all a clock watch, she enjoys her work. I probably would not repeat with her. Only because there are to many choice in your city.
Day Two….
So that was night one, the next day Saturday, I ventured out to Euro Industriepark, lots of choices there. Went with an older provider on Elisabeth-Selbert Str #9, Susi….. DATY, 69, CBJ and multi positions. You can find her on ….rotelaterne.de. She’s a non-rusher, and a great kisser. Afterwards still a little horny I drove over to Maria-Probst, didn’t see anything, so I then went to Helene Wessel Bogen7 again not anything that was eye catching. So I head over to Haus Vital(???) Found a nice little Thai in room 5, wow…definite repeat with her. Standard fee on all the above ….. 100E for 30 minutes.
Day Three Sunday……
Made it K-town, and headed west to Saarbrucken…… Visited my first Partytreff…..Geizstall on Hochstr 123. 80E to enter with as much f*cking as you want. However, four girls were working…. Nothing to get excited about…. Took a young blonde and visited the steam room/sauna and then left. No one spoke English. I’m still learning German. 80 euro is a good price, but there were to many rules…. The girls can wait up to an hour if they wish. You can’t keep taking the same girl. I was not impressed with the other selections. 80 euro ….. Two hours with a 45min session with one girl…. Not bad, beats 100 for 30mins.
Can anyone give me any info on Parkplatzsex??? Or is there anywhere in the Kaiserslautern area to find street workers???
Heading out again this weekend .... not sure where... maybe to Muschi Club or Asian World. Will post again.
Skeet
http://www.reuters.com/article/email/idUSTRE53K00G20090421
Time to "strike the iron while it is hot" as it appears to be a mutually beneficial time for mongers and SPs alike as the SPs SHOULD be more appreciative(hopefully, this will translate into better sessions) of the business and the average monger can save money!
Question: I will be driving to/from Frankfurt along A3 and I was wondering if any fellow mongers had any knowledge of usually reliable Parkplatzsex locations?
Thank you!
All About Asians
08-01-09, 21:45
Hi fellow mongers
I just decided to share my experience with my three favorite girls in Germany. 2 are located in Düsseldorf and one in Aachen. So I start with the 2 in DD.
1. Nina
Nina is a small Thai girl, working at home, which is located in the north of Düsseldorf, not far away from the airport.
She is a real beuty with nice tuned tits. For 150€/h you get BBBJ, CIM, anal, DATY. She will perform DATO for you if you like.Also she will do deepthroat, if your dick is not too long.
http://www.sexrelax.de/club_girls_detail/name/asiasun/girl/nina/from_kategorie/girls-privatclubs/from_a/club_159
2. Naomi
Naomi is a brazilian woman of about 40. Really small, and not a beauty, but ok in the looks. What se and her friend Melissa lack in looks they make up in service/price. They have a very short price list. 50€ for halfhour, 100€ for one hour. For that you get everything. Anal, CIM, deepthroat. And believe my, I never met an other girl who could take such a hard assfucking as these two. Absolute great. Melissa will even swallow.
They dont have a homepage, so heres the phonenumber for them:
01701917025
Now my absolute favorite girl. She works in Aachen, Antoniusstr.
Her name is Maggy and she is a thai girl. She can be found in house number 20. You can recognize her from her mole on her face. She may not be the most beautiful girl, but she is a real sex addict. Despite being married to a farely well off guy she went back to the business, because she didn´t get enough sex at home. She just works for the fun of it, she told me.
I don´t know what is the basic prize, as i allways only go for one hour minimum which comes at 100€. For that you get BBBJ, CIM, DATY, DATO and hardcore sex or the perfect GFE. IF she is into it she will do anal, but that only if your dick is ok for that, meaninh not too big.
She is a rare diamond in Antoniusstr, because most girls there are from east europe and will try to rip you off. So try her, and you will be satisfied.
Sorry, no phonenumber here, as she only gives it to regulars.
Don´t be offended if she tells you no, because as she is doing it mostly for the fun of it, she regularly rejects guys she dont like.
So have fun
AAA
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I have been making sex trips to Germany regularly for 5 years now, and I am amazed at the amount of guys I have met who are looking for bareback sex with working girls. So with that in mind I thought I would put together a little bareback guide.
Please don’t bother flaming me if you are offended at bareback activity. I just want to present the correct information as I do with every other aspect of the German paid sex world that I regularly comment on.
The Dedicated Bareback Clubs:
1) http://www.club-laluna-moers.de/ is a dedicated bareback club. €120 per hour and €90 per half hour with a young Romanian girl. Also they have a monthly gangbang, first Monday of every month, from 6 pm to 9pm, a complete sperm bath.
Reports:
Regular - http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=880250&postcount=2054
Gangbang - http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=901945&postcount=2746
2) http://www.diva-diskretempfang.de/index.htm is about 5km from La Luna. Bareback here is €140 per hour I think.
Reports:
We have no reports on this club.
3) http://www.clubtabulos.de I have personally visited here a few times. €160 for 3 x 30 minute sessions Mon Tues and Thurs. €120 for 3 x 30 minute sessions on Wed and Fri. Two Party treff days per month costing €120 for all day visit. Not all the girls in this club allow bareback but some certainly do.
Reports:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2854
4) http://www.chilly-time.eu/ offered bareback in their old guise, until they closed in June. They have reopened recently but we don’t know if bareback is still offered. More on the current Chilly time services here: http://www.klick-mich.de/clubcard/chilly-time
Reports:
No reports yet on the current reopened club
5) Three of the former chilly time girls are now working out of a private apartment in Dahlener str. 621, Rheydt. They apparently offer 30 minutes bareback sex for €40. Open Mon - Fri, from 10 am to 9pm. Pia is the name on the bell. No Website but phone (+49) 015112901902. Again no reports.
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Private apartments, Window type women, Eros centers and street girls.
I have no experience of any of these, but I have been told that bareback is very common especially with women in Private apartments. It may take a few visits to build a sort of relationship and trust before these women will allow the cock without the cover into their pussy.
Although my friend Col Bog, a man not shy about his love of bareback sex recently managed a bareback session with a South American lady in the Duisburg Eros center.
Report: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=904120&postcount=271
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FKK and Sauna clubs:
I have been told that bareback is available in many FKK and Sauna clubs, but usually a relationship must be established with the girl in question before she will allow it. I personally reckon that a certain % of working girls in any club might do it if enough money is offered.
A lot of women in Bernds also indulge apparently but I havent seen any reports lately suggesting that, again I think you need to be a regular in Bernds to get that kind of service and I believe the girls charge around €100 extra per session for bareback, but I am open to correction on this.
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Partytreff clubs
Apart from the two partytreff days in Club Tabulos (see above) I do NOT believe bareback is available in any of the normal €100 per day type partytreff clubs.
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If you are happy reading German the Freirforum have a special section devoted to "Tabulos & Spezielles" http://www.freiermagazin.de/bb/forumdisplay.php?f=142
There you can find several tips about finding bareback sex in Germany. Bareback sex is generally referred to as "AO" (Alles ohne = everything without).
A discussion about finding bareback sex at Bernd´s Schieferhof can be found here (in German) http://www.freiermagazin.de/bb/showthread.php?t=3779
According to this discussion you could bareback about 50% of the girls at Bernd's but it should be handled discretely. My understanding is that it cost 50 Euro extra and that 100 Euro is the total price for a session.
The bareback club La Luna in Moers have a special section at Freierforum http://www.freiermagazin.de/bb/forumdisplay.php?f=351
I have got good bareback sex at La Luna but I also like to be able to speak with the girl. Most girls at La Luna is neither good in German nor in speaking English.
According to reports in Freierforum it is easy to get bareback sex at asian massage places. Many times without any extra cost and sometimes the girl mount you bareback without asking.
I have been making sex trips to Germany regularly for 5 years now, and I am amazed at the amount of guys I have met who are looking for bareback sex with working girls. So with that in mind I thought I would put together a little bareback guide.
So with that in mind I thought I would put together a little bareback guide.
Some more links to publicy advertized bareback sex in Germany:
Bareback Gang Bang in Club Rose (http://www.owl6.de/rose-pb/?con_id=TwDz7Ey)
Bareback sex classified ads (http://www.fickanzeiger.com/ao-girls): most of the listed girls work in Club La Luna
Club Neby (http://www.privatclub-neby.de): service is offered only from selected girls, look for "Alles ohne"
Ace Montana
08-17-09, 00:43
IMO there is no need for a "bareback list" on a forum.
Bareback is available almost everywhere, FKK and sauna clubs (GT, Bernds, Villa Vertigo, Living Room, Oase, World, Palace, Blue Note, F39, Babylon,....), private apartments (Traumparadies,......), window type women, eros centers, street girls and Partytreffs
- for extra cash or for free
- when you are a regular or when you are a first-timer
There has always been bareback in the "Milieu" and it will always be so in the future.
Stay safe, always ask for a condom, no girl will force you to go bareback, even at Club Tabulos or LaLuna.
IMO there is no need for a "bareback list" on a forum.
Bareback is available almost everywhere, FKK and sauna clubs (GT, Bernds, Villa Vertigo, Living Room, Oase, World, Palace, Blue Note, F39, Babylon,....), private apartments (Traumparadies,......), window type women, eros centers, street girls and Partytreffs
- for extra cash or for free
- when you are a regular or when you are a first-timer
There has always been bareback in the "Milieu" and it will always be so in the future.
Stay safe, always ask for a condom, no girl will force you to go bareback, even at Club Tabulos or LaLuna.
It is available if you ask discretely.
I've never indulged myself but I've heard of it being available over and over again and at every club you can think of.
Gentleman Travel
09-08-09, 22:10
I assume that you mean non-pros? I would find that interesting and it may inspire me to meet some. My last experience with a non-pro German woman was a nightmare. She was, IMO, a bit of a psycho. After a half an hour of talking with her I would be questioning my own sanity and wondering which way was up & down. I have stuck to P4P ever since.
Are there any English language (or automatically translated) social networking or dating sites to reach non-pros?
In Russia there is Mamba/Date.ru which runs the gamut from P4P (clearly identified) through a rainbow of sex relationships down to girls who just want internet friends. Anything equivalent in Germany? I don't mean Facebook or its equivalents which are too low-yield for my taste, but something specifically sex-oriented and ideally aimed at foreigners...
Angus Magee
09-12-09, 10:37
Are there any English language (or automatically translated) social networking or dating sites to reach non-pros?
In Russia there is Mamba/Date.ru which runs the gamut from P4P (clearly identified) through a rainbow of sex relationships down to girls who just want internet friends. Anything equivalent in Germany? I don't mean Facebook or its equivalents which are too low-yield for my taste, but something specifically sex-oriented and ideally aimed at foreigners...
HI GT,
I am not sure if this is what you are looking for but have a look at this site:
http://www.poppen.de/
It is in German but can be roughly translated using googletrans or some other such translation service. I have not myself explored it very extensively but there does seem to be both ladies with financial interests and those just looking for sex.
Good luck and do please post any of your findings that you care to share.
AM
Aussieblock
09-23-09, 17:07
Hi There,
Any recommendation for asian girls in Frankfurt? I will be visiting Frankfurt for few days in October and would appreciate your feedback.
Thanks,
Aussie
Hi fellow mongers
I just decided to share my experience with my three favorite girls in Germany. 2 are located in Düsseldorf and one in Aachen. So I start with the 2 in DD.
1. Nina
Nina is a small Thai girl, working at home, which is located in the north of Düsseldorf, not far away from the airport.
She is a real beuty with nice tuned tits. For 150€/h you get BBBJ, CIM, anal, DATY. She will perform DATO for you if you like.Also she will do deepthroat, if your dick is not too long.
http://www.sexrelax.de/club_girls_detail/name/asiasun/girl/nina/from_kategorie/girls-privatclubs/from_a/club_159
2. Naomi
Naomi is a brazilian woman of about 40. Really small, and not a beauty, but ok in the looks. What se and her friend Melissa lack in looks they make up in service/price. They have a very short price list. 50€ for halfhour, 100€ for one hour. For that you get everything. Anal, CIM, deepthroat. And believe my, I never met an other girl who could take such a hard assfucking as these two. Absolute great. Melissa will even swallow.
They dont have a homepage, so heres the phonenumber for them:
01701917025
Now my absolute favorite girl. She works in Aachen, Antoniusstr.
Her name is Maggy and she is a thai girl. She can be found in house number 20. You can recognize her from her mole on her face. She may not be the most beautiful girl, but she is a real sex addict. Despite being married to a farely well off guy she went back to the business, because she didn´t get enough sex at home. She just works for the fun of it, she told me.
I don´t know what is the basic prize, as i allways only go for one hour minimum which comes at 100€. For that you get BBBJ, CIM, DATY, DATO and hardcore sex or the perfect GFE. IF she is into it she will do anal, but that only if your dick is ok for that, meaninh not too big.
She is a rare diamond in Antoniusstr, because most girls there are from east europe and will try to rip you off. So try her, and you will be satisfied.
Sorry, no phonenumber here, as she only gives it to regulars.
Don´t be offended if she tells you no, because as she is doing it mostly for the fun of it, she regularly rejects guys she dont like.
So have fun
AAA
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Rufus T Firefly
10-15-09, 05:19
US Residents are going to have problems using their debit and credit cards outside the USA. See this post I recently submitted.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=941600#post941600
Rufus
Dancing Wolf
10-15-09, 17:01
Hello all,
I was wondering if any body knows of a hobby hure Lisa www.nylon-babe.com or have used her services
Shes based down in Freiburg and sent me an email, but its all in german which I don't quite understand
But would welcome any feedback.
Many thanks
DW
Dancing Wolf
10-15-09, 22:07
Heres a better photo.
Dw
Hello all,
I was wondering if any body knows of a hobby hure Lisa www.nylon-babe.com or have used her services
Shes based down in Freiburg and sent me an email, but its all in german which I don't quite understand
But would welcome any feedback.
Many thanks
DW
Rufus T Firefly
10-17-09, 05:26
US Residents are going to have problems using their debit and credit cards outside the USA. See this post I recently submitted
Here's a followup on this issue...
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=942394&postcount=4150
Rufus
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666-Escort, Wuppertal => http://www.666-escort.de/
Abby Escorts => http://www.abby-escorts.com/
Actrice Escort => http://www.actrice-escort.de/
Adventure-Escort => http://www.adventure-escort.com/
Agency-Vip-Escort, Köln => http://www.agency-vip-escort.com/
Agentur Amour, Solingen => http://www.agenturamour.de/
Agentur Loveline (neu) => http://www.agentur-loveline.eu/
Alex, Bielefeld => http://www.beepworld.de/members22/stute25j
Alexa, NRW => http://www.callgirl-alexa.de/
Alexandra Escort (Diana Graf), NRW => http://www.alexandra-escort.de/
Alina, Köln/Bonn => http://www.escort-international-koeln.com/
Amantis Escort, NRW (neu) => http://www.amantis-escort.de/
Amie & Jaguar, Düsseldorf => http://www.callgirl.sweet17.de/
Amorette Escorts => http://www.amorette-escorts.com/
Anastacia Stone, Köln/Düsseldorf => http://www.duesseldorf-escort.com/
Andrea, Ennepetal => http://www.andrea4u.de/
Angelas VIP-Escort => http://www.angelas-escort.de/
Angie, Lünen => http://www.angie-love.de/
Anja Escort, Köln => http://www.anja.de/
Anke, Dortmund => http://www.sexy-anke.de.vu/
Anna Lena (neu) => http://www.luxuslady-anna-lena.com/
Anne Castel, Wuppertal (neu) => http://www.annecastel.beepworld.de/
Aurum-Escort => http://www.aurum-escort.com/
Ayala Escort => http://www.ayala-escort.de/
Baroness Escort => http://www.baroness-escort.de/
Basic-Instinct Escort => http://basic-instinct-escort.com/
Beatrice Escort, Essen => http://www.beatrice-escort.de/
belle Escort => http://www.belle-escort.de/
Bellevue Escort => http://www.escort-bellevue.de/
Bettina, NRW => http://www.la-passion-escort.eu/
BKB Models => http://www.escort-luxus.com/
Black Princess First Class Escort, Köln-Ehrenfeld (neu) => http://www.black-princess.de/
Blonde Escorts => http://www.blonde-escorts.de/
Bluesky-Escort (neu) => http://www.bluesky-escort.com/
BlueStone Escort => http://www.bluestone-models.de/
Bonn Girls => http://www.bonn-girls.de/
Britta, Düsseldorf (neu) => http://britta.100webspace.net/
Caprice-Escort => http://caprice-escort.de/
Carmens Begleitservice, OWL/Sauerland => http://www.beepworld.de/members28/carmen2002
Cayenne-Escort, Münster => http://cayenne-escort.com/
Christina, Düsseldorf/Köln => http://www.beepworld.de/members51/classicstyle
Christine, Köln => http://luder.hurenexclusiv.de/
Cindy, Düsseldorf => http://www.cindyintim.de/
Classic-Escort (neu) => http://www.classic-escort.de/
Claudia, NRW => http://traumfrauclaudia.jimdo.com/
Companion Deluxe => http://www.companion-deluxe.de/
ConzeptEscort => http://www.conzeptescort.de/
Cosmos Escorts => http://www.cosmos-escorts.com/
Danni Escort, Düsseldorf => http://www.danni-escort.com/
Deluxe Escorts, Köln => http://www.deluxe-escorts.de/
Denisa Escort, Köln-Raderthal => http://www.denisa-escort.de/
Denise (Italopower), Düsseldorf-Unterbilk => http://www.italopower-denise.de/
Diamond Escort => http://www.diamond-escort.de/
Die Escort Agentur => http://www.die-escort-agentur.de/
Donna Escort, NRW => http://www.donna-escort.de/
Dream-Extreme, NRW => http://www.dream-extreme.de/index.php?page=escort
Earl Preston Escortservice => http://www.earl-preston.com/
Eden-Escort => http://www.eden-escort.de/
Ela's Escort Service, Stolberg => http://www.club-ela.de/
Electra's World of Escort => http://www.electrasworld.de/
Elena-Escort => http://www.elena-escort.com/
Elite Escorts => http://www.elite-escorts.de/
Ellen & Laura, Aachen/Köln => http://www.escort-duo.de.vu/
Ellen, Aachen => http://www.escort-passion.de/
Empro Escortservice, Bergheim => http://www.empro.de/
Eroticminds Escort (Mandy), Düsseldorf (neu) => http://eroticminds-escort.de/
Escort Begleitung Sophie, Köln/Düsseldorf => http://www.escort-begleitung.com/
Escort Dame, Wuppertal => http://www.escort-dame.de/
Escort Desire => http://www.escort-desire.de/
Escort Dreams, Wuppertal (neu) => http://www.escort-dreams.eu/
Escort Düsseldorf => http://www.escortduesseldorf.com/
Escort Köln => http://www.escortkoeln.de/
Escort Penthouse Berlin => http://www.escort-penthouse-berlin.de/
Escort21 => http://www.escort21.com/
Escortdeluxx, Essen => http://www.escortdeluxx-essen.de/
Escort-Divas => http://escort-divas.de/
Escort-Duos on Tour (neu) => http://www.diamondsontour.net/
EscortGirls, Wuppertal => http://www.escortgirl-nrw.de/
Escort-Huren, Bochum => http://www.escort-huren.de/
Escortlady Tina, OWL => http://www.escortlady-tina.de/
EscortNight, NRW (neu) => http://www.escortnight.de/
Escortservice Dreams, NRW (neu) => http://www.escortservice-dreams.de/
Escortservice Essen => http://www.escortservice-essen.com/
Escortservice MeineBegleitung => http://www.meinebegleitung.de/
Escortservice Pure Lust, Bad Oeynhausen (neu) => http://www.escortservice-purelust.de.tl/
Escort-Service-NRW (neu) => http://www.escort-service-nrw.com/
Escortsonline => http://www.escortsonline.de/
Escort-Special => http://www.escort-special.com/
Escortteam, Köln => http://www.escortteam.de/
Euro Escort, Köln => http://www.euro-escort.net/
Eve, NRW => http://eveintim.de/
Excellent Escorts (neu) => http://www.excellent-escorts.com/
Femme Fatale, Düsseldorf/Frankfurt => http://www.chanelschwarz.com/
First Class Girls, Dortmund => http://www.firstclass-girls.de/
Frauenwahl, Mönchengladbach => http://www.frauenwahl.de/
FunkySoft => http://www.manager-begleitung.de/
Gina, Hückelhoven => http://erotikdates.jimdo.com/
Glamour Escort => http://www.glamour-escort.de/
Happy Day Escort, Dortmund => http://www.happyday-escort.de/
Harmony-Dates, Duisburg/Dortmund => http://www.harmony-dates.de/
High Class Escort => http://www.high-class-escortes.eu/
Hobbyhausbesuche, Herne => http://www.hobbyhausbesuche.de/
International Escort Ladies => http://www.international-escort-ladies.de/
Isabel März, NRW => http://www.isabelmaerz.com/
Jaime, Köln (neu) => http://jaimecologne.weebly.com/
Jenny, Köln/Düseldorf => http://www.escort-jenny.de/
Jet Escortagentur => http://www.jet-escortagentur.com/
Jil's Escort, Köln => http://www.escort-koeln.net/
Katja, Köln => http://sexygirl.xlgeil.com/
Kay Escorts => http://www.kay-escorts.de/
LaDiva Escortservice => http://www.escort-begleit-service.de/
Ladyexpress, Bochum => http://www.ladyexpress.de/
Laras Escort, NRW => http://www.laras-escort.de/
Laticia, Köln => http://www.laticia.takemethere.de/
Laura, Aachen => http://www.yourangelac.cabanova.de/
Laura, Bochum => http://www.sweetdream-laura.de/
Laura, Düsseldorf => http://www.laurasex.de/
Lea Escort, Köln-Bickendorf => http://lea.xlgeil.com/
Libertin Escort => http://www.libertin-escort.de/
Liebes Engel, Dortmund (neu) => http://www.liebes-engel.com/
Lucy, Bochum => http://lucy.echtsex.com/
Luxusgirls, Kaarst => http://www.luxusgirls.de/
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Lovemissile
12-04-09, 20:59
It has been two years since my inaugural baptism in to the perverted waters in the land of FKK's, partytreffs, and erotic discos. A return engagement was well in order. Thank you very much to such intrepid reporters as the legendary Wan King, Dark Vader, Col Bog, Angus, and the rest of the merry crew. You guys have really kept me informed of the latest news and clubs, not to mention the vicarious thrills your posts have provided me in these United States of A-bore-ica. Gentlemen, you are doing the mongering world a great service. Please keep it up (pun intended). To do my part, I spent one great week in November travelling around Germany with one day in Holland. I will report on 14 different venues. My schedule was as follows:
Day 1. Chillytime Salon and Viersen PTT
Day 2. Drueber und Drunther Swingertreff and Mettmann PTT
Day 3. PTT Flair and Club Dolce Vita
Day 4 (Holland Day Sauce). Villa Liberta and Showboat
Day 5. Living Room Kaarst and Beverly Erotic Disco
Day 6. Planet Happy Garden and Goldentime FKK
Day 7. Pia's Apartment and FKK World
There were terrible disappointments, honest surprises, monotony, confusion, ecstatic encounters, glorious sights, etc. All the things that things that make travel so great. Please stay tuned!
I will report on 14 different venues. My schedule was as follows:
Mate, u visited some very under reported clubs. Looking forward to ur findings..
Dark Vader
05-03-10, 11:54
Will be heading to the Mainz area in a couple of weeks.
Anybody got any ideas for PT, FKK or RLD action in the area?
All I've come up with so far is Crazy Sexy but the reviews on that joint on the German forums have been uniformly awful. I know that I can go into Frankfurt but I was keen to avoid that if possible.
Grateful for any suggestions.
Any suggestions on FKK or other action in Kassel? I’ll be there for a few days, with a rented car, and I’ll appreciate any answers from you experienced guys.
Any suggestions on FKK or other action in Kassel? I’ll be there for a few days, with a rented car, and I’ll appreciate any answers from you experienced guys.
If you don't mind about 1-hour drive, point your car southwards down the A5 from Kassel to Giessen and head for FKKWorld. Get off at the Fernwald exit...
O
Thank you, Ortos.
A closer (and probably cheaper) option seems to be the Saunaclub Parkschloss Dali in Marsberg, west of Kassel.
I also found not at about the same distance the Saunaclub Harem, Das 5. Element and the FKK Traumland.
How would you compare between them?
And what about a regular brothel, is there anything recommended closer to Kassel?
If you don't mind about 1-hour drive, point your car southwards down the A5 from Kassel to Giessen and head for FKKWorld....
O
YoursDeepus
05-24-10, 14:03
American Women vs German Women
I would suggest going online, but I'm not sure that would work as I am not Caucasian and I knew where to find German women interested in African-American men and I have been very successful.Hey man, I am not caucasian either, so, I would appreciate if you can help me where to go.
Otherwise, there is not a thread about picking up "freebies" in Germany, but after my trip I shall drop as much science about German women and dating while being seperated by 10, 000 miles as I can, though I have to drop in the disclaimer than what happens to me, might not happen to you.Yeah, agreed, but, real date is always better, so, please help me.
I mean, how is the social scene in Germany, Is it like going to the bar and you can find some ladies who are actively or passively looking for some action, Some dating site in enlish popular here, how is it? What bars or clubs can you suggest?
Thank you, Ortos.
A closer (and probably cheaper) option seems to be the Saunaclub Parkschloss Dali in Marsberg, west of Kassel.
I also found not at about the same distance the Saunaclub Harem, Das 5. Element and the FKK Traumland.
How would you compare between them?
And what about a regular brothel, is there anything recommended closer to Kassel?
If it were me, I would not be concentrating on trying to save ten/twenty euros on the entry fee, nor would it bother me (personally) to drive extra distance in order to reach a truly superior venue. World is a couple of rungs above the places you listed. For me it's all about the quality and variety (that means: vastness) of the line-up of girls. I can be more assured that I will get as many choices of the types of girls I like at World than at the other possible choices. Plus, bear in mind that World is only about 25 minutes from Oase, so you could also consider that as an option.
O
Sensible advise, Ortos; I like the reasoning.
And how it would compare World with Oase?
... it's all about the quality and variety ... Plus, bear in mind ... Oase... as an option.
Sensible advise, Ortos; I like the reasoning.
And how it would compare World with Oase?
Both World and Oase are in the same (top) league when it comes to FKKs. World has great facilities, whilst Oase has perhaps a more diverse line-up. (That does not mean World has a bad line-up by any means!) Both can shine on the right night. The choice might partly be dependent on which night of the week you plan to visit. But otherwise either one will satisfy.
Both World and Oase are in the same (top) league when it comes to FKKs....Thank you Ortos!
Angus Magee
06-01-10, 08:13
I came across this today.
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/0,1518,697267,00.html
It is in German but as far as I could understand the federal government is considering passing a mandatory condom law for brothels. What is not clear is how the law would be enforced and against whom the fines would be levied.
The article states that the brothel would have to clearly point out that condoms must be used.
The article also mentions (I think) some sort of new compulsory license for brothels, though I am not sure how this differers from licensing rules already in place.
Just thought this might be of interest.
AM
The article quotes "ungeschützten Geschlechtsverkehr nicht zulassen", i.e. "not allowing unprotected intercourse". To me that sounds like condoms won't be mandatory during oral sex.
Angus Magee
06-01-10, 09:03
The article quotes "ungeschützten Geschlechtsverkehr nicht zulassen", i.e. "not allowing unprotected intercourse". To me that sounds like condoms won't be mandatory during oral sex.
Yes I did wonder about this but did not see anywhere where it indicated the law would include bareback oral.
But the pessimist in me wonders if it is only a matter of time...
The optimist sees that enforcing such a law would be all but impossible, as it is in the southern regions I hear.
I came across this today.
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/0,1518,697267,00.html
It is in German but as far as I could understand the federal government is considering passing a mandatory condom law for brothels. What is not clear is how the law would be enforced and against whom the fines would be levied.
The articel says also that it will be impossible to check. It is a do-gooder law (Gutmenschen), without any sense and consequences.
Hi,
I'm looking for a german escort agency site. It had some girls coming from other countries. It was something like susan. Something.
Angus Magee
06-03-10, 20:46
Hi,
I'm looking for a german escort agency site. It had some girls coming from other countries. It was something like susan. Something.
Sorry Nolyn but you will have to give us a wee bit more than that. Even with my sometime embarrassingly encyclopedic knowledge of Berlin P4P, I can not come up with anything with "something like susan".
But if you are looking for an escort agency with foreign girls pretty much any Berlin agency will fit the bill. In fact it is a good deal harder to find German girls in Berlin. Have a look at the Berlin thread. Plenty (or a good number anyway) of recommendations there.
AM
I think I found what I was looking for, termingirls.
Hi,
I'm looking for a german escort agency site. It had some girls coming from other countries.
All? Mostly Eastern European girls are in the business.
Persian Fellow
06-05-10, 09:19
Hi All,
I have to go from Den Haag to Hannover and unfortunately I don't have enough time.
What I want to know is :
Where is the best FKK to stay for 2~3 hours without too much waste of time to get there in that journey?
Thanks in advance.
Fellow
Sebastiane
06-05-10, 22:56
Hi all,
I saw this escort agency on another thread and on visiting the site was blown away by some of the girls. Especially this one:
http://www.greta-brentano.com/#kristina_nilsson.php
I wonder if any of our friends in Berlin (Angus perhaps?) have hired this girl and can report back or, if not her, any other girl from this agency? It seems like a real top notch escort agency and, though rather expensive on first appearance, if you work it out *per hour* it is not much more than an hour with a girl in an FKK per hour (including one extra such as CIM for example).
OK, a 1000 euros is a hell of a lot of money to drop in one day (6 hours in fact) but six hours of sex play is a lot.
I'd love to get some feedback because i've decided that, all things going well, I'm going to book this girl on my next visit to Berlin but don't want to blow that sort of money on a scam or subpar service.
It was something like susan. Something.
Sorry Nolyn but you will have to give us a wee bit more than that.
I can not come up with anything with "something like susan".
All? Mostly Eastern European girls are in the business.
AM,
The clue is Zuzana.
Hence Termingirls.
Majority are Hungarian.
VG.
Angus Magee
06-14-10, 13:09
I'd love to get some feedback because i've decided that, all things going well, I'm going to book this girl on my next visit to Berlin but don't want to blow that sort of money on a scam or subpar service.
Hi Sybarite,
Your post got lost in the delay I think. That is it got posted a post down and did not show up in the new posts display on the front page of the forum and therefore I missed it.
Anyway-sorry to say that I have no experience with the girl or the agency. In fact I have never even seen this agency before. It is a little rich for my blood and tastes as a matter of fact.
Looking at the website I doubt it is an out & out scam. It is just as a matter of personal taste that I am turned off by the whole expensive courtesan flavor of such agencies. I prefer a wh*re to be a wh*re, with the metaphoric stink of her other customers still upon her (note I said metaphoric), not an illusory fine bottle of unopened French champagne.
But that is just a matter of taste.
Maybe Hektor from the Berlin thread has an idea of this agency as I know his tastes run more towards exclusivity than do mine. I do suggest posting your request for info again in that thread as it is more likely to be seen.
Regards
AM
I think I found what I was looking for, termingirls.
you mean http://www.termingirls24.de/ they have a Incall place In Ratingen near Dueselldorf, I've never been, but they have some nice looking Hungarian girls.
John Moore
06-14-10, 17:52
So I am looking to buy a prepaid SIM-card on my next trip to Germany as I would like to use my new smartphone which has GPS and such fun stuff and that requires quite a lot of data traffic costs. However I'm not very good in the german language so I could use some help. Anyone have experience with german prepaid phones? I dont wanna call a lot but use the internet. Found T-Mobile and this might be what I'm looking for:
http://www.t-mobile.de/prepaid-tarife/0,20496,18518-_,00.html?WT.svl=100
Thanks in advance
Angus Magee
06-14-10, 18:49
So I am looking to buy a prepaid SIM-card on my next trip to Germany as I would like to use my new smartphone which has GPS and such fun stuff and that requires quite a lot of data traffic costs. However I'm not very good in the german language so I could use some help. Anyone have experience with german prepaid phones? I dont wanna call a lot but use the internet. Found T-Mobile and this might be what I'm looking for:
http://www.t-mobile.de/prepaid-tarife/0,20496,18518-_,00.html?WT.svl=100
Thanks in advance
Best in my opinion would be to download & install google chrome and use it as a browser when visiting German sites. When you open a foreign language website chrome will automatically read this and ask if you want an English translation. You can also set it up so that it does not even ask and automatically displays in English. The translation is not great for large texts but for pages such as the one you posted it makes navigating very easy.
Maybe this will help? I had a look at the site and it seems to offer what you are seeking. But I am not very experienced with German cell phones as I jus have a simple one for which I buy minutes every three months or so. And I always have trouble loading it up as the instructions are always in German.
Travelerb69
06-15-10, 02:38
So I am looking to buy a prepaid SIM-card on my next trip to Germany as I would like to use my new smartphone which has GPS and such fun stuff and that requires quite a lot of data traffic costs. However I'm not very good in the german language so I could use some help. Anyone have experience with german prepaid phones? I dont wanna call a lot but use the internet. Found T-Mobile and this might be what I'm looking for:
http://www.t-mobile.de/prepaid-tarife/0,20496,18518-_,00.html?WT.svl=100
Thanks in advance
I do not live in Germany either and travel a few times per year. I bought myself a T-mobile pre-paid sim card at a T-mobile store. Pretty easy, they will demand just your passport. I paid, if not mistaken, 10 euros, with 10 euros credit included. The card is valid forever, never expires even if you do not charge it for a long time. I think the same aplies to Vodaphone.Whenever I am in Germany just buy some credits and have a local phone. Of course you need an unblocked GSM cell phone to benefit from that. Simple as that.
John Moore
06-21-10, 18:39
Best in my opinion would be to download & install google chrome and use it as a browser when visiting German sites. When you open a foreign language website chrome will automatically read this and ask if you want an English translation. You can also set it up so that it does not even ask and automatically displays in English. The translation is not great for large texts but for pages such as the one you posted it makes navigating very easy.
Maybe this will help? I had a look at the site and it seems to offer what you are seeking. But I am not very experienced with German cell phones as I jus have a simple one for which I buy minutes every three months or so. And I always have trouble loading it up as the instructions are always in German.Ah, didn't think about that but to be honest it didn't make me any wiser even in my native tongue but I think I know what I should get. Thanks!
I do not live in Germany either and travel a few times per year. I bought myself a T-mobile pre-paid sim card at a T-mobile store. Pretty easy, they will demand just your passport. I paid, if not mistaken, 10 euros, with 10 euros credit included. The card is valid forever, never expires even if you do not charge it for a long time. I think the same aplies to Vodaphone.Whenever I am in Germany just buy some credits and have a local phone. Of course you need an unblocked GSM cell phone to benefit from that. Simple as that.Sounds perfect. I have a unblocked phone so that wont be a problem. Thanks for you insight!
I have heard of a group of German women who stroll public places holding a roll of paper towels. Then one encounters a man she gives him a hand job, they clean up with a paper towel, and she moves on to the next man. No conversation, no exchange of money, no blowjobs. Could this possibly be true? If so what is the story? What city?
Thanks
Quick question. I am going to be in Berlin for two nights and am considering flying to Frankfurt to go to FKK Oase. It it worth taking a one night trip to Frankfurt to visit Oase or would my time be better spent just spending a third night in Berlin. I
Thanks
First time in Berlin
Andypandara
08-11-10, 21:47
I have recently been planning "Andy's London and Germany / gentleman's party / FKK / PartyTreff / GangBang Great Circle Tour" for the end of October, and I had a question for those of you that have used products like Viagra and Cialis in these clubs.
Normally, I do not need this help, I am 57 years old but can still usually come twice in an hour with the right girl, and no problem 3 times in a day. Living in the sexual wasteland known as the USA, my capabilities easily sustain for the limited opportunities that I take advantage of or have access to, and so I have never used these products.
I know that I cannot keep up that kind of performance pace on a longer term basis required for this tour that I am planning that will be a week in length. I can easily do 1 pop a day over the 5 or 6 days that I will be operational, but carrying (or unleashing?) a higher load makes me wonder about how much V or see will help. Obviously getting a hard on with these products is not going to be an issue, but does it help with actual cum production, if you will? Or am I still going to be limited? I certainly understand that YMMV.
In the meantime, as I get snuffles and hives or other "not feel well days", I have collected a small supply of both Viagra and Cialis samples from my physicians when I tell them I am having a few issues, and so I will have a stock pile ready for the Great Circle Tour.
Any advice on use of these products? I know that they are kind of opposite, V for more short term use, and the yellow one for a more sustained experience. I don't want to mix products as I perceive some have done, but I would be interested in hearing about anyone's personal experiences (good and bad) and advice with these products.
Also, do the girls in these clubs actually get upset if you don't come during a particular session. I almost get the impression that there is an implied feeling of "if the customer didn't cum, then the session wasn't good" on behalf of the girls. I wouldn't want any bad or awkward feelings if a particular session doesn't end in a release. Or am I worrying about nothing here?
Sorry if this question has been asked before, I did a search but didn't see a particular discussion. Thanks for your input in advance!
Angus Magee
08-12-10, 08:33
Sorry if this question has been asked before, I did a search but didn't see a particular discussion. Thanks for your input in advance!
Hi,
Sorry I can not really answer all of your questions but I can offer in put on some. It is just my own personal view but in general I feel it best to avoid performance enhancers. Used too much for non medical reasons (that is if you do not actually suffer erectile disfunction but just want a stiffer erection) I wonder if they do not create body dependence. The body does have the capacity to stop doing what it is supposed to do when you offer it an alternative. So I think the body when you take V or C looks at this and says, well I don't have to produce an erection any more as the drug does it for me.So you start to have to depend on the drug. As long as it is not too often this is not such a consideration. But once you start, the lure of a rock hard woody is great.
As far as I know semen is not effected either way with V or C. They have to do with the blood flow around the penis and do not produce bigger cums. I know that there are all sorts of recipes to increase semen production but am not really sure if any work. It is an area of extreme snake oil sales as this ability to produce globs of semen is so linked with virility in our mind. Maybe some do work, but I personally would tend towards more natural, diet stuff rather than pills or potions that make outlandish claims.I myself drink pineapple juice in the hopes that it make my cum sweeter as I have heard but I have no idea if it really works. Hookers are not the most reliable source of info when it comes to asking if your cum tastes good (I do not ask) as the will almost always say-it tastes delicious! But do you believe this?
As for the last question, it is true that the ladies do tend to want you to cum as proof of a good session. And it is also true that some get a bit put off if you do not. I always tell them, if I genuinely like the girl, that just spending time with her is worth the cost to me. This really strokes their ego and allows some face saving. If it is more that the woman is a dud for me I just say that I do not want to. If she feels bad I can not do much about that. I'm the one that paid €60 to find out that there is no chemistry after all.
Hope some of this helps
AM
Angus Magee
08-12-10, 15:35
. But once you start, the lure of a rock hard woody is great.
Before anyone else points to this, I really wish we still had the 8 hour edit window and I could reword this just a wee bit ;)
Andypandara
08-13-10, 19:55
Before anyone else points to this, I really wish we still had the 8 hour edit window and I could reword this just a wee bit ;)AM, I took your comment at face value exactly the way that you meant it!
Thanks!
Andypandara
08-13-10, 20:12
Used too much for non medical reasons (that is if you do not actually suffer erectile disfunction but just want a stiffer erection) I wonder if they do not create body dependence. The body does have the capacity to stop doing what it is supposed to do when you offer it an alternative. So I think the body when you take V or C looks at this and says, well I don't have to produce an erection any more as the drug does it for me.So you start to have to depend on the drug. As long as it is not too often this is not such a consideration.You have definitely given me something to consider, but I don't know that I would be susceptable to that, as frankly I do not really get that many opportunities to be with members of the opposite sex, and almost always it is 1-on-1 single sessions, so I don't think I would ever have the opportunity to build up resistance. Being in a situation where I would actually have to consider that as a risk is one that I would love to have!
As far as I know semen is not effected either way with V or C. They have to do with the blood flow around the penis and do not produce bigger cums. I know that there are all sorts of recipes to increase semen production but am not really sure if any work. It is an area of extreme snake oil sales as this ability to produce globs of semen is so linked with virility in our mind. Maybe some do work, but I personally would tend towards more natural, diet stuff rather than pills or potions that make outlandish claims.I myself drink pineapple juice in the hopes that it make my cum sweeter as I have heard but I have no idea if it really works.
I'm sure you are correct, I was just trying to see if maybe anyone had any other contrary experiences. I actually agree with you about the natural remedies, and have been taking Saw Palmetto (check it out if you are older with any prostate issues) and it really works in terms of helping urination problems and such, i am hoping it also helps with general cum production.
A few years back in Los Angeles, the local #1 radio DJ's Mark and Brian caused a bit of a controversy when they started talking about using pineapple juice as you described, and they got a few "volunteers" from the listening audience to try it out and report back as to whether it made a difference in the taste for the woman. From what I remember, it most definitely worked as described. My guess is that the reports were correct, as the body has a tendency to flush overdoses of sugar out of the body via the urinal tract, as refined sugar has a deadly effect on humans, i.e., diabetes, etc, at least in the amounts that most modern humans consume it.
As for the last question, it is true that the ladies do tend to want you to cum as proof of a good session. And it is also true that some get a bit put off if you do not. I always tell them, if I genuinely like the girl, that just spending time with her is worth the cost to me. This really strokes their ego and allows some face saving. If it is more that the woman is a dud for me I just say that I do not want to. If she feels bad I can not do much about that. I'm the one that paid €60 to find out that there is no chemistry after all.Well, I am so charming, that I am sure they will take pity on an old dog like me.
Hope some of this helps AMVery much appreciated as always!
I just wanted to offer another opinion. First, I'm a big fan of pills and juice! And I do agree that generally speaking you should not introduce things to your body that you don't need. However, I'm close to your age and know what you are asking.
Viagra is very reliable for giving you wood. I find it harder to have an orgasm with it, especially when using a rubber. Although, I did meet one insanely hot and talented young lady that managed to get me off twice in a couple of hours while taking viagra. So, anything is possible. Generally speaking, I have to finish off by hand when I take Vitamin V, which is not a problem for many of the girls. Depending on what country you are boinking in.
Cialis is generally gentler, I find. Most guys seem to say that too. It's generally easier to bust nut. Wood is not as intense but still reliable. Personally, I've found since I quit smoking, changed of prescription meds, and started exercising more everything works pretty reliably now and I don't need the boost. However, with both viagra & cialis, I cut them into 1/4 or 1/2 doses. I want the reliability for these type of vacations without losing the possibility of busting a nut. My system is for the first encounter I go au naturelle (w/out V or C) and I might pop 1/4 of a pill for my later encounters.
But you are going on a sex binge! You need to be armed a ready. Vitamin V & see are good standbys. A lot of people subscribe to zinc pills as a way of boosting your sperm production. I've tried it. It does something & it can't hurt but it didn't make me Peter North. I've never thought that was important though. If I get off, then it's a good encounter no matter how much my sperm I generate.
Basically, you are paying the $$$. Whatever you define as a good time is what counts. Some girls are dedicated to their craft and REALLY want you to come. Some might be really vibing with you and really want to please you. Others really want you to hurry and finish. I would not worry about it. If you don't come blame it on the booze, age, or all the fucking you been doing. All girls will happily take that. Good luck and have one for me.
Andypandara
08-16-10, 19:11
I just wanted to offer another opinion. First, I'm a big fan of pills and juice!Thanks, Brutus! Real world experience was what I was hoping for!
I find it harder to have an orgasm with it, especially when using a rubber.. Generally speaking, I have to finish off by hand when I take Vitamin VI guess I can see where that could be the case, but this could be a benefit as well, I suppose
Cialis is generally gentler, I find. Most guys seem to say that too. It's generally easier to bust nut. Wood is not as intense but still reliable. Personally, I've found since I quit smoking, changed of prescription meds, and started exercising more everything works pretty reliably now and I don't need the boost.Same here, at least with the latter two, I quite smoking in 1977
However, with both viagra & cialis, I cut them into 1/4 or 1/2 doses. I want the reliability for these type of vacations without losing the possibility of busting a nut.That was my plan as well.
But you are going on a sex binge! You need to be armed a ready.I think some abdominal exercises will help also
A lot of people subscribe to zinc pills as a way of boosting your sperm production. I've tried it. It does something & it can't hurt but it didn't make me Peter North.Thanks! I will check it out!
Basically, you are paying the $$$. Whatever you define as a good time is what counts. Some girls are dedicated to their craft and REALLY want you to come. Some might be really vibing with you and really want to please you. Others really want you to hurry and finish. I would not worry about it. If you don't come blame it on the booze, age, or all the fucking you been doing. All girls will happily take that. Good luck and have one for me.Thank you for your practical insight into this subject, I will have at least one for you and all the others that make this board such a rich resource!
Angus Magee
08-24-10, 08:33
The counting is done and the September Monger I Admire has been chose.
Check out who is the Monger I Admire on the blog.
http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=322
AM
Angus Magee
09-20-10, 21:42
Anyone going?
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/09/oktoberfest_2010.html#photo38
AM
Rufus T Firefly
09-21-10, 01:46
Anyone going?
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/09/oktoberfest_2010.html#photo38How I wish! I've never been there but it's on my "to do" list.
On picture 22: nice tongue! Where does the line start?
Rufus
Angus Magee
10-03-10, 08:50
Hi Lads,
You might notice I have a new look (theme) on the blog today. I am not 100% happy with it but it is moving in the right direction. The whole thing seems crowded to the left, sort of cramped up against the left hand border. I am tinkering with it, trying to determine if it is a problem with settings or if it just how the theme is designed. I have been spending hours yesterday looking at and trying out various themes-there are literally 100s available.
But I like this one for various reasons so I hope I can make it work a bit better.
Let me know what you think.
AM
Note: After making my post I realized it might just be as simple as how I have my own browser set. That is I need new glasses so I tend to zoom in on pages with my browser. When I went out one click the blog looked better. But still, tell me what you think. I will still tinker.
Saluting the mongering community.
Has anyone heard of agencies that organize an adult film shooting for you in Europe (yourself being the actor of course):??
Angus Magee
10-10-10, 08:43
Saluting the mongering community.
Has anyone heard of agencies that organize an adult film shooting for you in Europe (yourself being the actor of course):??
Not sure about Europe but you should be able to find such a service in St Pete's Russia. There was an active poster some two years back (I think his name was shelbysbaker-something like that) who was doing this and posting about it. Ask or do a search in the St. Pete's thread and you will find something. Not cheap though. You will need deep pockets.
AM
Saluting the mongering community.
Has anyone heard of agencies that organize an adult film shooting for you in Europe (yourself being the actor of course):??
There was an advertisement (banner) on ISG about such a possibility in Prague (look at Prague's thread) , probably less than one year ago.
( see : http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=921212&postcount=2801 : http://www.xxxwishes.com/ )
Angus Magee
10-18-10, 15:15
Hi Gents,
New post up on the blog.
http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=560
Please have a look.
AM
Hi gents.
Early next year I'm off to Germany on another mongering journey, either to Berlin, Düsseldorf, or Hamburg, and apart from hitting a FKK-club or two I'm also considering ordering a call girl to my hotel room. Does anybody know whether the agency Escort Desire is reputable and trustworthy?
http://www.escort-desire.de/
Some of the girls look really stunning and the prices are IMHO quite reasonable, so is it woth giving a shot?
Expresso Jim
11-27-10, 01:06
Hi. New here. Looking for a Romanian girl I lost touch with when I left Germany in 2007. She is now 22 years old, about 5'7", long dark hair, very busty, and very pretty. She worked with a group of Romanian girls in Ludwigshafen on Halbergstr (I think) in 2006 until early 2007, and then moved on to the Rosa-Haus on Camphauserstr in Saarbruecken in the summer of 2007. She went by the name of either Vanessa or Alexandra. Don't think she is there anymore, but can't be sure. Can anyone help? I sure hope so as she is quite special to me.
Thanks a bunch.
Fistmaster
01-04-11, 18:12
Hi gents.
Early next year I'm off to Germany on another mongering journey, either to Berlin, Düsseldorf, or Hamburg, and apart from hitting a FKK-club or two I'm also considering ordering a call girl to my hotel room. Does anybody know whether the agency Escort Desire is reputable and trustworthy?
http://www.escort-desire.de/
Some of the girls look really stunning and the prices are IMHO quite reasonable, so is it woth giving a shot? I tried this escort about 2 years ago while I stayed in München, I wasn't disapointed www.target-escort.de
Mark Darcy
01-11-11, 09:35
Hi newbie here, was wondering if someone has experience in both countries (cities) can compare the escort scenes in both countries / cities? Thanks. Danke.
I know Germany is known for its FKK clubs. But I prefer incalls and outcalls for privacy reasons. So from incall / outcall's point of view, which city is better? Price, looks, service, attitude, etc.
Angus Magee
01-11-11, 18:29
Hi newbie here, was wondering if someone has experience in both countries (cities) can compare the escort scenes in both countries / cities? Thanks. Danke.
I know Germany is known for its FKK clubs. But I prefer incalls and outcalls for privacy reasons. So from incall / outcall's point of view, which city is better? Price, looks, service, attitude, etc. Well I can not compare as I have no experience of the London scene but I do know the Berlin scene. The Berlin scene is active but fraught with peril and you really have to do your homework here. My impression is that the London scene is much better, if you define better as a much larger selection of hot EE providers. Let's face it, London is a major money center with a lot of cash floating around. While Berlin is excellent for bordellos, has a top FKK and plenty of sleazy bars & kinos, the really top money girls head over to London. Thus I think I can safely say London is a better escort center. But it will cost you as I also have the impression it is not cheap.
If you really like the escort scene you might want to check out Montreal, Canada. There you have the sexy & sexually adventurous French Canadian girls and a very competitive scene. In my experience Montreal has one of the best escorts scenes in the world with both hot women and reasonable pricing.
For an in depth look at the Berlin scene check out my blog.
http://www.angusmagee.com/?cat=62
The Berlin scene contains it all but there are a couple of specific escort posts.
Mark Darcy
01-12-11, 13:18
If you really like the escort scene you might want to check out Montreal, Canada. There you have the sexy & sexually adventurous French Canadian girls and a very competitive scene. In my experience Montreal has one of the best escorts scenes in the world with both hot women and reasonable pricing.Thanks Angus, for the feedback.
Funny you mentioned Montreal. I've actually hobbied there and while it's cheaper than most places, the selections aren't that great, and lacking diversity (very few tall blond women. Most French Canadians have darker hair and are shorter than Anglo Saxons). And most escorts in Montreal are just a bit above average in terms of looks, compare to the general civilian population in the city.
But now that you and I both have experince in Montreal. Let's use it as a common benchmark. Would you still say Berlin, or Germany as a country has a better hobbying scene (excluding fkk) than Montreal?
I've checked out your blog and I get the impression that Berlin is a great city to hobby, from reading your blog actually.
Angus Magee
01-12-11, 17:46
But now that you and I both have experince in Montreal. Let's use it as a common benchmark. Would you still say Berlin, or Germany as a country has a better hobbying scene (excluding fkk) than Montreal?
I've checked out your blog and I get the impression that Berlin is a great city to hobby, from reading your blog actually. I would have to say that Germany (or more specifically Berlin) is far better than Montreal (Canada) except in, say, the escort scene. I am not a great fan of the Berlin escort scene. To be fair though I would have to say I prefer to hobby outside the home environment though so I am not the best, or at least most impartial, judge of this. I like the feeling of going somewhere, luxurious or sleazy, to get my rocks off. Home ice advantage can be enjoyable, but for me the worry of neighbours hearing or opening the door at an inopportune moment takes away from the enjoyment.
Also just the fact hat it is totally legal here has a great advantage. Despite the sometime slight embarrassment one might feel when visiting a brothel one never has to worry about being busted for it. This is a big plus.
So yeah, over all I would have to say germany is one of the top spots in the western world for hobbying. But don't count London out if you can afford it. I really think with a bit of home work you could have some stellar experiences with some top girls in London. At least I have always been impressed with the line ups I have seen on the escort boards in London.
AM
Mark Darcy
01-13-11, 00:32
Thanks, AM, much appreciated.
Sometimes it can be a bit tough for a first timer. Not knowing where to look, etc. I'll do some more reserch on both London and Berlin.
Angus Magee
01-13-11, 13:22
Thanks, AM, much appreciated.
Sometimes it can be a bit tough for a first timer. Not knowing where to look, etc. I'll do some more reserch on both London and Berlin. Most welcome M. D. Honestly what I think Berlin has in its' favor with the escort scene is the low end agencies. However, one has to really do one's research and not expect always to hit a winner. There are many, many girls available, not all of them will be a good experience. And the landscape changes quickly, girls come and go, agencies open, close and change names and websites. All this makes it difficult for the one time visitor to know that he will be able to guarantee his experience. If you are okay with this uncertainty, if you enjoy the adventure, Berlin is hard to beat.
If you look in the back pages of the Berlin thread Charlie 123 has made a number of good reports on the type of agency I speak of. He also makes specific recommendations. What is not certain is if the girls he recommends are still working, are still with the same agencies. There is no definitive guide as it is always changing. FKK & bordellos offer a much stabler environment in which to hobby in the end.
AM
Mark Darcy
01-14-11, 00:43
Honestly what I think Berlin has in its' favor with the escort scene is the low end agencies. AMAngus, after doing some more reading on London, yes, this is the impression I get. While both cities have abundant selections of providers, the ones in London seem more upmarket, those in Berlin are on the other side of the spectrum. And this goes back to the first post you responded to my original inquiry. You mentioned the top money girls go to work in London and I shouldn't count it out if I can afford it. You were exactly right. After HOURS of research, I came to the same conclusion as you. Sometimes it's much easier and more effective having experienced punters point us to the right direction. They can save so much time and headache, and money of course. And that's the value of the board and discussions among members.
I'm probably going to do both cities. While I think London is great (a bit more tolerable now due to FX) , I've always been adventurous and enjoyed the ups and downs of the unknowns. So Berlin seems good, too.
On a side note, most of the providers in either city (country) seem to come from EE and Russia anyways, only difference is the better looking ones go to London and charge more. But they all hail from the same countries anyways. This and nostalgia led me to look at Russian section on ISG again after years of hiatus. It reminded me some of my most memorable, and sometimes very scary experiences I had. I went straight to the source, like un determinded soilder (horny foreign bastard actually). Now I'm getting older and not as brave (or horny) as when I was slightly younger. The idea of an operation to the Motherland seems too daunting. So I'll settle for more comfortable targets like London and Berlin, and pay more for 2nd and 3rd tier Russian women respectively. The first tier were in Russia, and could be had for free sometimes. Not sure if it's still the case now. Good old times.
Angus Magee
01-14-11, 13:03
On a side note, most of the providers in either city (country) seem to come from EE and Russia anyways, only difference is the better looking ones go to London and charge more. The girls working in Berlin, especially in the lower end, do tend to be from the Southern EE countries-Romania and Bulgaria especially. That and a great number of Poles and Lithuanians. While Russian and Ukrainian are available they tend towards the higher end agencies and bordellos. The girls listed as speaking Russian are not necessarily from Russia. My theory is that for some reason the Russian / Ukrainian girls are more ambitious. Those that make it out of their country head for the bigger markets.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Russians are not available, but if you order from a low end agency you will almost certainly not get one.
AM
Mark Darcy
01-14-11, 14:40
The girls working in Berlin, especially in the lower end, do tend to be from the Southern EE countries-Romania and Bulgaria especially. That and a great number of Poles and Lithuanians. While Russian and Ukrainian are available they tend towards the higher end agencies and bordellos. The girls listed as speaking Russian are not necessarily from Russia. My theory is that for some reason the Russian / Ukrainian girls are more ambitious. Those that make it out of their country head for the bigger markets.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Russians are not available, but if you order from a low end agency you will almost certainly not get one.
AMThat's very interesting to know. I'm surprised to know that. I didn't know that before. Thanks for the info, Angus.
If I had to guess, Russians are more popular than Romanians and Bulgarians, therefore people are willing to pay more.
What about Czechs and Hungarians? Many of them working in Germany? I find them very attractive.
Angus Magee
01-15-11, 12:24
What about Czechs and Hungarians? Many of them working in Germany? I find them very attractive.You can find any nationality really. It is just, as mentioned, Ro & Bul girls are far more common. Actually though I know you prefer escorts, FKK are way better for nationality shopping, all there under one roof and no investment other than a few minutes on a couch to determine where they come from. If what they say is to be believed. But that is a whole other kettle of fish.
AM
I have been a couple of times at the GoldenTime in Brüggen and often I go to Globe in Zurich.
Now I would like to try something new.
I am undecided between the Palace in Frankfurt and the Artemis in Berlin.
I read that line-up in Palace is better than in Artemis; also I read that girls performance in Artemis are, however, better than in Palace.
What experience do you have had in these clubs?
I have been a couple of times at the GoldenTime in Brüggen and often I go to Globe in Zurich.
Now I would like to try something new.
I am undecided between the Palace in Frankfurt and the Artemis in Berlin.
I read that line-up in Palace is better than in Artemis; also I read that girls performance in Artemis are, however, better than in Palace.
What experience do you have had in these clubs? Search my prior posts for some head: head comparisons. In 2009 I thought Artemis sessions were all good for 30 min but I was there 2 days ago, and the predominant experience was upselling and the 30 min session is really a suck / fuck quickie in < 15 min unless you have impressive stamina to hold back your load. This attitude is practically standard at Palace. No difference in lineup quality IMHO. Sessions at Palace are 50 rather than 60. Extras the same.
The other answer is simple-at some point you need to go to both. Which one is first is an even call.
On many an occasion, I've tried to route flights to international sites through Frankfurt and arrange some "downtime." However this is difficult often in a single itinerary. Even if you can swing a 6 hour FRA layover, any mongering will be under tremendous time pressure to get back to the airport and through security-hardly relaxing. Ideally, you need a good 24 hour period to get to a good club, I. E skip the RLD, and in my experience skip Palace too and get to World or Oasis.
So recently I booked a simple legacy carrier to a major European hub to attend a legitimate activity. Building some down time into the schedule, I sampled both EasyJet and Ryanair for some side-fun.
These tickets are often in the 50-60 USD range round trip. Often you have to deal with longer train commutes to smaller, way out there airports. Boarding the plane is a headache and cattle call experience-no assign seats. Read to the letter and obey every instruction regarding baggage as their business plan includes charging the heck out of you for any errors. But it is a way to have some side fun, save dough for the action, while on paper your main international travel route looks legit. Just got to be sure you make it back to where you are suppose to be to get your ride home.
So between Easy Jet, Air Berlin, and Ryanair you should be able to get from most European airport cities to one of the good FKK destinations in Germany-Frankfurt, Berlin, and Munich.
Can anyone recommend some good agencies for finding German porn stars?
Any city in Germany is accessible to me.
Can anyone recommend some good agencies for finding German porn stars?
Any city in Germany is accessible to me. Can you I'm me or send a message to [Email address deleted by Admin]? I saw a part of your response in my email, but some of it was blurred out.
TIA
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Angus Magee
02-17-11, 21:07
Can you I'm me or send a message to [Email address deleted by Admin]? I saw a part of your response in my email, but some of it was blurred out.
TIA.
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I sent the web address but the forum blocked it for some reason so I took it off. I can not send an email. Youwould have to become a member (pay the 20$) and pm me.
AM
Angus Magee
02-17-11, 22:47
Doonan-Oh By the way the info I was sending I actually found myself doing a google search using German Porn stars who escort. These things are generally pretty easy to uncover with a good search engine. I have no personal experience with German escorts who are also escorts, oh, except one who used to work at a local Berlin brothel.
AM
Rufus T Firefly
02-18-11, 06:25
On many an occasion, I've tried to route flights to international sites through Frankfurt and arrange some "downtime." However this is difficult often in a single itinerary. Even if you can swing a 6 hour FRA layover, any mongering will be under tremendous time pressure to get back to the airport and through security-hardly relaxing. Ideally, you need a good 24 hour period to get to a good club, I. E skip the RLD, and in my experience skip Palace too and get to World or Oasis.So recently I booked a simple legacy carrier to a major European hub to attend a legitimate activity. Building some down time into the schedule, I sampled both EasyJet and Ryanair for some side-fun. These tickets are often in the 50-60 USD range round trip. Often you have to deal with longer train commutes to smaller, way out there airports. Boarding the plane is a headache and cattle call experience-no assign seats. Read to the letter and obey every instruction regarding baggage as their business plan includes charging the heck out of you for any errors. But it is a way to have some side fun, save dough for the action, while on paper your main international travel route looks legit. Just got to be sure you make it back to where you are suppose to be to get your ride home. So between Easy Jet, Air Berlin, and Ryanair you should be able to get from most European airport cities to one of the good FKK destinations in Germany-Frankfurt, Berlin, and Munich.I've flown on both Air Berlin and Easy Jet. In my opinion Air Berlin was the better airline for customers but Easy Jet isn't bad. Air Berlin offers good fares and they get cheaper if you book further in advance or for days which are less popular. Service was impeccable and boarding was easy and based on seating. On the other hand, Easy Jet had the "cattle car" approach (open seating) and the passengers crowd by the gate, wanting to be among the early boarders in the expectation getting a better seat.
As much as I prefer Air Berlin, the airline doesn't fly everywhere. In my particular case, I flew AB from Nürnberg to Madrid with a change of planes in Majorca. Wanting to fly from Madrid to Milano, I had to fly Easyjet.
IMHO, Ryanair is my absolute last choice airline for multiple reasons. That airline generally flies to airports which are very remote from the cities they claim to be serving. However those airports may be convenient to the location you are going to or leaving from. I knew someone who lived in SW Germany and he crossed the border into France to catch low cost flights to London. I highly recommend that a person carefully read the conditions Ryanair imposes on passengers and the multitude of possible extra charges you might encounter. They charge for everything and they will not refund fares for any reason nor will the re-book without extra costs. Just do some searching on the web and you'll encounter news and personal accounts regarding their services. I expect to NEVER fly this airline unless I absolute have to. Maybe with a gun to my head.
Rufus
You can go to strip club, find some brothels, or pick some girls in bar. But all this takes a lot of time and result is not guaranteed. The most convenient way is to find good escort directory, with independent Germany escorts and escort agencies. I would advise you www.one-escort.com. This is really great escort directory with huge variety of Germany female escorts that is updated constantly. You will find there escorts' names, phone numbers, and even gentlemen reviews. I'm sure it will take you less than 30 minutes to find the girl you need.
Good Luck!
I'm going to Germany nest month (April 20-24) , and was wondering what I can expect from the mongering scene? The FKKs don't close, do they?
Angus Magee
03-06-11, 12:56
I'm going to Germany nest month (April 20-24) , and was wondering what I can expect from the mongering scene? The FKKs don't close, do they?Easter is business as usual for the FKKs. Some bordellos may be closed but these would be the ones that are normally closed on Sunday. Many would also be open. At least this info is true for the Berlin bordellos. In the south it may be a little different.
A
Easter is business as usual for the FKKs. Some bordellos may be closed but these would be the ones that are normally closed on Sunday. Many would also be open. At least this info is true for the Berlin bordellos. In the south it may be a little different.
AThanks. I will be going to Dusseldorf (have been to Living Room once, and that was absolutely fantastic) , and Berlin and Artemis :-D
Angus Magee
03-06-11, 14:52
Thanks. I will be going to Dusseldorf (have been to Living Room once, and that was absolutely fantastic) , and Berlin and Artemis :-DArtemis I know for sure is open as usual at that time. Living Room you may want to check the website but I think it almost certain they are open.
AM
Anyone know any establishments where I can meet beautiful turkish and / or Filipino girls in Dusseldorf or Berlin?
Rufus T Firefly
03-27-11, 19:33
Anyone know any establishments where I can meet beautiful turkish and / or Filipino girls in Dusseldorf or Berlin?You should ask your question in the separate Berlin and Dusseldorf threads.
Rufus
Frankfurter
06-13-11, 12:35
For those folks in previous posts travelling in Germany and wondering where to acquire the desired vitamins such as Cialis or generic Cialis such as Tadalafil Super Active or Pro (I hate Viagra, turns my face into a fireball and doesn't last as long as Cialis) :
Of course you need for everything in Germany a prescription but since you guys are sitting in front of a computer anyway while checking out the ISG you may order it here (Takes one week by secure air mail, no P. O. Boxes) :
http://securetabsonline.com/cialissuperactive20mg.html
Have fun!
Super Cum 500
06-15-11, 23:11
Is Frankfurt the best choice.
I will sample RLD and FKK.
It seems from my research Frankfurt is the best option. Would you agree or if not where?
I mean in terms of:
Quality Girls.
Service.
Establishments.
RLD.
Saftey.
Prices.
Travel.
I heard Hamburg has good RLD but FKK frankfurt better, Berlin also seems another option?
Frej Of Asgaard
07-08-11, 22:46
Advice of the day:
Don't drink to much while carrying along sex toys.
Just so you don't repeat the stunt of this local guy who pulls a dildo at the police:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phcYyDePC34&feature=player_embedded
London Traveller
07-09-11, 00:06
Is Frankfurt the best choice.Yes, IMHO. Definitely.
Plenty of choice in FKK. Hamburg RLD is tourist rip-off. Berlin has only one FKK.
As many members may be hiring cars the Tripadviser site may be of interest. There are several active threads warning of the dangers of hiring from Thrifty or Dollar. The office at Frankfurt has, it would appear from the posts, perfected several different methods of extracting money, relying on the probablity that foreign visitors are unlikely to be able to use the German legal system to obtain redress.
Just search Thrifty and Frankfurt.
This would appear not to the normal sort of problem with car hire but appears to be organised, intentional and wide-ranging, and the cost to users can easily be 1000 lost Euros
Yes, IMHO. Definitely.
Plenty of choice in FKK. Hamburg RLD is tourist rip-off. Berlin has only one FKK.I agree with London Traveller that Hamburg RLD is a tourist trap. Frankfurt is best for FKK but Berlin offers with Kamilla Dee, Van Kampen, Royal, Liberty etc. Several very good brothels. IMHO Berlin is best when you prefer brothels (cheaper prices but good quality) Frankfurt for FKK
Super Cum 500
09-14-11, 16:50
I agree with London Traveller that Hamburg RLD is a tourist trap. Frankfurt is best for FKK but Berlin offers with Kamilla Dee, Van Kampen, Royal, Liberty etc. Several very good brothels. IMHO Berlin is best when you prefer brothels (cheaper prices but good quality) Frankfurt for FKKWhat is main difference between BErlin brothel versus Frankfurt FKK?
Brothel 5-10 girls? Less choice? Nationality?
NO entry fee to brothel?
Girls as attractive as FKK?
Girls offer BBBJ+DFk etc for 50 euro like FKK.
Brothels in Berlin are near center, safe, legal easy access like FKK or more discrete / dodgy.
I have noticed on previous (brief) visits to Germany. Dusseldorf, Berlin, Munich, Koln, Frankfurt, and the amazing (but cold!) city of Hamburg. My total lack of German can be a hindrance in negotiations. These were mostly non-punting trips however and it didn't matter too much.
I can imagine situations where there would be more or sometimes less access to an English speaking person to assist, or where simple sign language might suffice (though hopefully not offend in classier places).
So am I barking up the wrong tree if, together with my usual inadequate stock of foreign social phrases, or greetings cued from my iPhone, if I try to amass a few German phrases to clarify any p4p deals? If necessary, maybe I could write them down in a pocket notebook to show to a prospective lady?
With this in mind, I wonder if someone would be so good as to suggest phrases that indicate:
FULL SEX.
FULLY UNDRESSED.
ORAL.
ORAL WITHOUT CONDOM.
DATY.
COME ON FACE.
15 MINUTES.
20 MINUTES.
30 MINUTES.
And if it is ever required something along the lines of:
MOBILE PHONE SWITCHED OFF (DURING SEX)
And maybe one or two useful flattering phrases that can sometimes help like:
YOU HAVE BEAUTIFUL TITS.
Please excuse my ignorance. My thought is that it might not only fulfil my immediate fairly short notice requirements, but be a handy reference for other non-German-speaking punters. Many thanks.
Gfe Finder
09-14-11, 23:51
I have noticed on previous (brief) visits to Germany. Dusseldorf, Berlin, Munich, Koln, Frankfurt, and the amazing (but cold!) city of Hamburg. My total lack of German can be a hindrance in negotiations. These were mostly non-punting trips however and it didn't matter too much.
I can imagine situations where there would be more or sometimes less access to an English speaking person to assist, or where simple sign language might suffice (though hopefully not offend in classier places).
So am I barking up the wrong tree if, together with my usual inadequate stock of foreign social phrases, or greetings cued from my iPhone, if I try to amass a few German phrases to clarify any p4p deals? If necessary, maybe I could write them down in a pocket notebook to show to a prospective lady?
With this in mind, I wonder if someone would be so good as to suggest phrases that indicate:
FULL SEX.Geschlechtsverkehr means intercourse.
FULLY UNDRESSED.vollständig nackt
ORAL.französisch
ORAL WITHOUT CONDOM.französisch ohne Gummi
DATY.Muschilecken
COME ON FACE.ins Gesicht spritzen
15 MINUTES.fünfzehn Minuten
20 MINUTES.zwanzig Minuten
30 MINUTES.dreißig Minuten
And if it is ever required something along the lines of:
MOBILE PHONE SWITCHED OFF (DURING SEX) Handys ausgeschaltet (beim Sex)
And maybe one or two useful flattering phrases that can sometimes help like:
YOU HAVE BEAUTIFUL TITS.Du hast schöne Titten
Please excuse my ignorance. My thought is that it might not only fulfil my immediate fairly short notice requirements, but be a handy reference for other non-German-speaking punters. Many thanks.No problem. Hope this helps!
And if you're clarifying whether the girl in question offers one or more of the above, you may want to preface these with:
How much for / Wie viel für
May I / darf ich
Do you do / machst du
Those more fluent than I should feel free to add to / correct this list.
Thank you, Sir! I could not have wished for a more prompt, fuller or helpful response to my questions! I am not good at languages, but find German more daunting than any other language I have encountered, either in mainland Europe or Asia. Thank you again, and may your kind reply also help other mongers visiting the many wonderful places that Germany offers, and yet who find the long and difficult words frankly mind-boggling.
Could I perhaps add another little something for others venturing to Germany? I have noticed that many aspects of German culture are more formal than elsewhere in Europe. On a business trip some years ago with a colleague we were careful to observe things like titles and other social norms that are polite in Germany if of less or little consequence in many other countries. It felt a little like we were having a precise but emotionless conversation with our opposite numbers in Augsburg, almost as if we were at a black tie dinner under the watchful eye of stern parents! But then as we got to know each other, shared common experiences, and found similarities in the goals and problems we faced in our respective countries, the barriers disappeared. The cool emotional exterior gave way to a warmth and an expression of emotion that, say, an American might use in the first minute, and even an Englishman ease into within ten minutes of niceties and comments about the weather and so on. That forwardness would perhaps be seen as over-familiarity by a German man or woman one had just met. But once that rubicon has been crossed, I have found German people to be among the warmest and most genuine people on the planet, and sometimes lifelong friendships have resulted from the slenderest of meetings, sustained by deep mutual respect and sincerity.
If any of this is wide of the mark, I hope the forum readers will forgive me. But I hope it might perhaps give a hint for other travellers. There is much to appreciate in Germany, and particularly to be shared with its citizens!
Regards, Christopherd.
Those more fluent than I should feel free to add to / correct this list.GFE,
It would be churlish to quibble with such an excellent glossary.
I would just add that most girls would also recognize the term NatuerFranzoesich (Nat-oor Fran-tsoo-sish) for ORAL WITHOUT CONDOM.
Could I perhaps add another little something for others venturing to Germany? I have noticed that many aspects of German culture are more formal than elsewhere in Europe. On a business trip some years ago with a colleague we were careful to observe things like titles and other social norms that are polite in Germany if of less or little consequence in many other countries. It felt a little like we were having a precise but emotionless conversation with our opposite numbers in Augsburg, almost as if we were at a black tie dinner under the watchful eye of stern parents! But then as we got to know each other, shared common experiences, and found similarities in the goals and problems we faced in our respective countries, the barriers disappeared. The cool emotional exterior gave way to a warmth and an expression of emotion that, say, an American might use in the first minute, and even an Englishman ease into within ten minutes of niceties and comments about the weather and so on. That forwardness would perhaps be seen as over-familiarity by a German man or woman one had just met. But once that rubicon has been crossed, I have found German people to be among the warmest and most genuine people on the planet, and sometimes lifelong friendships have resulted from the slenderest of meetings, sustained by deep mutual respect and sincerity.
If any of this is wide of the mark, I hope the forum readers will forgive me. But I hope it might perhaps give a hint for other travellers. There is much to appreciate in Germany, and particularly to be shared with its citizens!Couldn't have put it better than this.
The friendliness and all-round civility of your average German never ceases to amaze me.
Not to mention originating the whole FKK concept, of course... :)
VG.
Angus Magee
09-16-11, 06:47
I also would like to say-great glossary. Too bad we can not place it as a "sticky" at the top of the thread so that it always stays on top. Also, this glossary certainly gives the correct terms. But, at least in Berlin, many of the girls you will find also speak German as a second language. For this reason, and the nature of the sex business in general, it is relatively easy to communicate your wants and need is simpler terms. For instance, for GV, sex normale will always be understood. Blow job is a universal term and a blow job ohne will be understood. Nice to get the correct terms but remember, if you forget at the last moment it is pretty easy to improvise.
AM
Angus Magee
09-16-11, 12:07
Could I perhaps add another little something for others venturing to Germany? I have noticed that many aspects of German culture are more formal than elsewhere in Europe. On a business trip some years ago with a colleague we were careful to observe things like titles and other social norms that are polite in Germany if of less or little consequence in many other countries. It felt a little like we were having a precise but emotionless conversation with our opposite numbers in Augsburg, almost as if we were at a black tie dinner under the watchful eye of stern parents! But then as we got to know each other, shared common experiences, and found similarities in the goals and problems we faced in our respective countries, the barriers disappeared. The cool emotional exterior gave way to a warmth and an expression of emotion that, say, an American might use in the first minute, and even an Englishman ease into within ten minutes of niceties and comments about the weather and so on. That forwardness would perhaps be seen as over-familiarity by a German man or woman one had just met. But once that rubicon has been crossed, I have found German people to be among the warmest and most genuine people on the planet, and sometimes lifelong friendships have resulted from the slenderest of meetings, sustained by deep mutual respect and sincerity.
If any of this is wide of the mark, I hope the forum readers will forgive me. But I hope it might perhaps give a hint for other travellers. There is much to appreciate in Germany, and particularly to be shared with its citizens!
Regards, Christopherd.I would also agree with this. The funny thing for me is that there is nothing grumpier than a grumpy German. But if you can get them smiling there is almost nothing they won't do. I mean I have had people go seriously out of their way to help me. I myself have often wondered if this is just a Berlin thing. But from your post it seems it is not.
AM
Gfe Finder
09-16-11, 14:09
Thank you, Sir! I could not have wished for a more prompt, fuller or helpful response to my questions! I am not good at languages, but find German more daunting than any other language I have encountered, either in mainland Europe or Asia. Thank you again, and may your kind reply also help other mongers visiting the many wonderful places that Germany offers, and yet who find the long and difficult words frankly mind-boggling.
You're welcome! I'm always glad to be helpful.
Could I perhaps add another little something for others venturing to Germany? I have noticed that many aspects of German culture are more formal than elsewhere in Europe. On a business trip some years ago with a colleague we were careful to observe things like titles and other social norms that are polite in Germany if of less or little consequence in many other countries. It felt a little like we were having a precise but emotionless conversation with our opposite numbers in Augsburg, almost as if we were at a black tie dinner under the watchful eye of stern parents! But then as we got to know each other, shared common experiences, and found similarities in the goals and problems we faced in our respective countries, the barriers disappeared. The cool emotional exterior gave way to a warmth and an expression of emotion that, say, an American might use in the first minute, and even an Englishman ease into within ten minutes of niceties and comments about the weather and so on. That forwardness would perhaps be seen as over-familiarity by a German man or woman one had just met. But once that rubicon has been crossed, I have found German people to be among the warmest and most genuine people on the planet, and sometimes lifelong friendships have resulted from the slenderest of meetings, sustained by deep mutual respect and sincerity.
That's a good observation. Thank you for pointing it out-- my own experience seems to find it to be true as well. It's been one of many pleasant discoveries in my travels to Germany.
But, at least in Berlin, many of the girls you will find also speak German as a second language. For this reason, and the nature of the sex business in general, it is relatively easy to communicate your wants and need is simpler terms.
I don't know if this is also what your talking about, but what you said above reminded me of a scene from Caveh Zahedi's I Am a Sex Addict. He was in Germany, and trying to find out how much a woman would charge for a blow job. So he asks, "Wie viel für " and then motions like he's sucking his thumb but doesn't put his thumb in his mouth. "Blasen?" she replies.
I also would like to say-great glossary. Too bad we can not place it as a "sticky" at the top of the thread so that it always stays on top.
Well, you or anyone else can always place a link in the ROD section! ;)
TabbySmyth
09-16-11, 20:21
You're welcome! I'm always glad to be helpful.
Well, you or anyone else can always place a link in the ROD section! .Done. This is crucial information for noobies like me.
Pray tell us on how to check if that hottie is cool with DFK? Machst du tief französisch küssen sounds a little funny to me. LOL.
Angus Magee
09-17-11, 08:59
Done. This is crucial information for noobies like me.
Pray tell us on how to check if that hottie is cool with DFK? Machst du tief französisch küssen sounds a little funny to me. LOL.I do not think you really can tell. In an apartment you can ask (and pay for) kissing. Then the quality & "depth" of the kissing is up to the girl and a bit your own "game". Working girls are, to a degree, susceptible to charm and a skillful technique.
In an FKK some guys will interview the girl to make sure she kisses. But I have found that even if a lady says she kisses, those kisses can ranger from a deep soulful tongue kiss to a peck on the lips. So in the end asking, for me, has little value and indeed tends to be a buzz kill. I would rather meet a girl with whom I have a bit of chemistry then tak my chances with the kissing. For me, even more than fucking, kissing has to be authentic, or I would rather just leave it.
But if you really must you could ask :"Machst du Küssen mit Zunge?". What a mood killer.
Hessen Bub
09-17-11, 10:38
"Machst du Küssen mit Zunge?".It is either:
"Küsst Du mit Zunge?" or.
"Machst Du Zungenküsse?"
HB
Angus Magee
09-17-11, 10:47
It is either:
"Küsst Du mit Zunge?" or.
"Machst Du Zungenküsse?"
HBThanks HB. As I say my own spoken German is pretty rough. But I am usually understood, if not given any gold stars for grammatical style. I think people get a bit intimidated with the German language because German and Germans are very correct. But I try to get the pronunciation right if not the grammar. This is sometimes a challenge.
AM
Super Cum 500
09-18-11, 17:22
What is main difference between BErlin brothel versus Frankfurt FKK?
Brothel 5-10 girls? Less choice? Nationality?
NO entry fee to brothel?
Girls as attractive as FKK?
Girls offer BBBJ+DFk etc for 50 euro like FKK.
Brothels in Berlin are near center, safe, legal easy access like FKK or more discrete / dodgy.Anyone with advice as I'm caught in 2 minds as to which city to go to. Berlin also has FKK artemis and this is as good as Palace / Oase or similar?
Flight prices to Frankfurt and Berlin are similar.
If I go to Frankfurt I can also get train to Prague so thats a bonus but not necessary.
Hessen Bub
09-18-11, 18:31
Artemis can be compared with Palace. Probably service is better, no upselling. 60 EUR / 30min.
HB
JayHighFive
09-18-11, 23:09
Do any of you freqeunt the RLD in Frankfurk?
Super Cum 500
09-19-11, 02:21
Artemis can be compared with Palace. Probably service is better, no upselling. 60 EUR / 30min.
HBBy no upselling do you mean that things which would cost extra at palace are included in 60 euro?
Such as cum on face / mouth? Or is this still extra? (also anal but I'm not bothered about anal)
As far as I am aware at Palace included in 50 euro per girl is:
DFK (not to interested in)
DATY (not to interested in)
BBBJ (essential for me)
Sex multiple positions
Super Cum 500
09-19-11, 02:23
Artemis can be compared with Palace. Probably service is better, no upselling. 60 EUR / 30min.
HBBy no upselling do you mean that things which would cost extra at palace are included in 60 euro?
Such as cum on face / mouth? Or is this still extra? (also anal but I'm not bothered about anal)
As far as I am aware at Palace included in 50 euro per girl is:
DFK (not to interested in)
DATY (not to interested in)
BBBJ (essential for me)
Sex multiple positions.
Also, are the quality of girls the same?
I hear that Palace has better looking girls than Oase atm. But Oase is over 18 whereas Palace over 21. Not that it makes too much difference but potential cute teens at Oase will not be at Palace. Though its no breaker. I'm more about quality off girls appearance and service than age or food or facilities etc.
The Qforce
09-19-11, 13:20
Do any of you freqeunt the RLD in Frankfurk?Of course, not the Eros centers, but quite familiar with all the strip clubs, quite an action to be had there.
Lone Punter
09-23-11, 13:39
Hi, will be in Germany for about 4 months. Would be grateful to get suggestions how to establish online contacts for sex. The dating services on the net seem all to be a trap but I am sure there might be some useful boards where contacts could be made or useful adresses could be found. Looking specifically for asian providers in different cities but also contacts to fellow mongers.
LP
Angus Magee
09-23-11, 14:21
Hi, will be in Germany for about 4 months. Would be grateful to get suggestions how to establish online contacts for sex. The dating services on the net seem all to be a trap but I am sure there might be some useful boards where contacts could be made or useful adresses could be found. Looking specifically for asian providers in different cities but also contacts to fellow mongers.
LPYou might try poppen.de. I am not sure how much "dating" is on there as opposed to financial interest but at least it is all clearly marked as such.
http://www.poppen.de/home
Of course it is all in German.
AM
TabbySmyth
09-25-11, 13:26
Gentlemen,
I have an issue I am unable to resolve. I've tried the Search and Advanced Search functionality a number of times but strangely the results only contain links to entire threads. So how does one know where one's searched item is in all the pages of a particular thread? Normally in other forums I notice that the actual post opens up with your searched for words. Am I missing something basic here?
Thanks,
Tabs
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Hi TabbySmyth,
Perhaps you'd have better results if in the search option "Show Results as:" you were to select the option "Reports"
Thanks,
Jackson
TabbySmyth
09-26-11, 17:08
Yes it works! Silly me, missing the 'Single content type' tab. Thanks for the input, Jackson.
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Hi TabbySmyth,
Perhaps you'd have better results if in the search option "Show Results as:" you were to select the option "Reports"
Thanks,
Jackson
I will be in Berlin the second week of Nov, I still have one more week open to go anywhere but I would like to hear some advices from the experts here in the board.
I was thinking Prague or Kiev what is your opinion?
Thanks a lot to all.
Super Cum 500
11-26-11, 17:31
I will be in Berlin the second week of Nov, I still have one more week open to go anywhere but I would like to hear some advices from the experts here in the board.
I was thinking Prague or Kiev what is your opinion?
Thanks a lot to all.Personally I would recommend against Prague for pure sex. For a holiday and tourist visit plus sex I recommend it.
My personal expereince.
City centre night clubs / brothels= rip-off tourist places with big prices.
RLD show park= hot girls (moreso at weekends) , good prices, decent service but liimted, no BBBJ, no dfk etc. Etc.
Out of centre brothels= girls were ugly.
Private escorts= never tried to much hassle.
In Prague I found show park only worhtwhile thing but now I know about germany and service and prices I would never go to Prague again for sex. Holiday, nice weather summer, hot girls on the subway, streets, cheap beer, cheap nice food, some cheap RLD sex is what makes prague a fun holiday. Prob best enjoyed with some freinds. BUt for pure sex. Based on my last 2 visits not worth it.
Kiev- no idea?
Personally I would recommend against Prague for pure sex. For a holiday and tourist visit plus sex I recommend it.I agree.
In Prague I found show park only worhtwhileI disagree but it depends on what are you looking for : short or long escort meetings?
Personnaly, I think that for escort meetings, Prague is worth; especially in visiting the whole city (Old city and Lesser town Mala Strana with the castle)"escorted" by a Czech or Slovakian-spoken lady.
In general, escort meetings (especially one day or longer) are more expensive in Germany than in Prague.
now I know about germany and service and prices I would never go to Prague again for sex.Just that I would not use the term "never"
I am a German guy living in Munich. Probably one of the worst cities for our hobby.
Since 2 years I use the site www.gesext.de And in my opinion it's really a good way to find what we are looking for in Germany.
You can find independent and professionals, too. Girls come to visit you in Hotel, Apartment. Or you can visit them at their places.
Wide range of prices and services.
Up to now I booked 6 girls by this way and never have been disappointed.
At least: I am not the owner of the site nor am I earning the money you maybe will spend there.
Hello,
Is it normal that I am not allowed to + Post New Threads?
It seams that I only can post answers to posts like this one here. I tryed to create a Thread to ask the forum staff what they think about local areas with their nature speak? Or a other question that I ask my self. Is there a way to connect with users treveling in Germany?
Super Cum 500
01-29-12, 00:21
Where can one find the hottest girls with best service, easily accesible, safe, good prices AND NOT IN AN FKK!
Reason being I don't like the FKK set up. I like to be alone with girls, privacy, less other men etc. Etc.
So what is options, RLD? Privates? But which City? Which country still Germany right in Europe?
SwingerLover
01-30-12, 16:21
Hello,
Is it normal that I am not allowed to + Post New Threads?
It seams that I only can post answers to posts like this one here. I tryed to create a Thread to ask the forum staff what they think about local areas with their nature speak? Or a other question that I ask my self. Is there a way to connect with users treveling in Germany?You may add new reports to existing threads, but not new threads. I don't know who may add new threads, but I guess that it is reserved for senior members.
Of course there are ways to connect with other users.
For starters you could read the posts here and in the German Partytreff thread and post your own traveling plans in the travelling announcement thread.
I'm going to Germany for 5 days in April. Will first be going to Frankfurt and stay 1 day, and probably go to Oase (been there many times). The next day I want to go to either Dusseldorf or Hannover. I have been to Dusseldorf many times, and FKK Livingroom is one of my favourites. I read some place that Hannover is good, and have many asian girls working. Is Hannover a place I should visit?
Hessen Bub
01-31-12, 21:13
"Hangover" does have quite a few appartments to go to plus the redlight district. If you prefer FKKs, there's FKK-Villa which I personally did not like a all. So. Not reqlly worh a visit IMHO.
HB
SwingerLover
02-01-12, 18:14
Where can one find the hottest girls with best service, easily accesible, safe, good prices AND NOT IN AN FKK!
Reason being I don't like the FKK set up. I like to be alone with girls, privacy, less other men etc. Etc.
So what is options, RLD? Privates? But which City? Which country still Germany right in Europe?Hottest girls, but privacy with less other men? Isn't that like asking for hot ice or dry water?
Super Cum 500
02-03-12, 17:28
Hottest girls, but privacy with less other men? Isn't that like asking for hot ice or dry water?I don't get you?
I just don't like the big clubs with many people. I prefer a small brothel or private girls or RLD. But I read FKK has the best looking girls?
SwingerLover
02-05-12, 22:56
I don't get you?
I just don't like the big clubs with many people. I prefer a small brothel or private girls or RLD. But I read FKK has the best looking girls?I've been to the AO-Gangbangparties in Krefeld at Oppumer Straße 1 and Gahlingspfad 10 on more than one occasion and I like a lot of the bulgarian girls there. Outside of the parties, I believe they offer single service. The apartment location could be better, especially the bathrooms could be cleaner. But maybe you would like to give it a try anyway. See www.kontakt24.de And use 'Krefeld' as keyword.
Then there's Dolce Vita in Raubach. Never been there, but heard good things about it, especially for people who want one on one girlfriend sex. But it's an FKK-club.
Super Cum 500
02-15-12, 21:21
I've been to the AO-Gangbangparties in Krefeld at Oppumer Straße 1 and Gahlingspfad 10 on more than one occasion and I like a lot of the bulgarian girls there. Outside of the parties, I believe they offer single service. The apartment location could be better, especially the bathrooms could be cleaner. But maybe you would like to give it a try anyway. See.
www.kontakt24.de
And use 'Krefeld' as keyword.
Then there's Dolce Vita in Raubach. Never been there, but heard good things about it, especially for people who want one on one girlfriend sex. But it's an FKK-club.Ok thanks I will research on these suggestions.
Member #4309
03-05-12, 01:17
I am looking for porn models (those who are interested in being in front of camera). I don't want to shoot the next porn flick, some thing for private use.
Any ideas? What kind of budget are we talking about?
Yu might start looking at web sites for Melanie Moon and Laureen Pink.
I am looking for porn models (those who are interested in being in front of camera). I don't want to shoot the next porn flick, some thing for private use.
Any ideas? What kind of budget are we talking about?
Craig Doug55
03-10-12, 06:22
Would someone post a link to the google FKK map? Many thanks!
SwingerLover
03-11-12, 14:43
I am looking for porn models (those who are interested in being in front of camera). I don't want to shoot the next porn flick, some thing for private use.
Any ideas? What kind of budget are we talking about?In addition to Melanie Moon and Laureen Pink, who were already suggested to you, have a look at the following pages:
www.marina-montana.com
www.sexy-susi.info
www.salmadenora.com
No idea about the budget situation.
From hearsay I know something of around 800 Euros for a night with Salma de Nora.
Super Cum 500
03-11-12, 20:45
So I was looking at my options.
On my credit / debit cards I'm getting lots of fees. Meaning if I withdraw £300 ill only get about £280.
Other options:
Travellers cheques?
By euros in Uk and take with me? Bit dodgy if lose or stolen though.
Perhaps open a German bank account and transer money into it, then use german ATM to avoid any fees. Though I'm not sure if this is possible if you're not a permanent resident? And worthwhile unless making repeated visits.
Dark Vader
03-12-12, 07:01
So I was looking at my options.
On my credit / debit cards I'm getting lots of fees. Meaning if I withdraw £300 ill only get about £280.
Other options:
Travellers cheques?
By euros in Uk and take with me? Bit dodgy if lose or stolen though.
Perhaps open a German bank account and transer money into it, then use german ATM to avoid any fees. Though I'm not sure if this is possible if you're not a permanent resident? And worthwhile unless making repeated visits.Using plastic is still the best way to go because the Visa/Mastercard wholesale exchange rate is likely to be the best exchange rate you can get as a private citizen BUT you've got to get the right cards!
As you've found out, in the UK at least, most credit / debit cards will charge you a plethra of additional charges when you use your card abroad. These comprise: A "load" on the exchange rate of typically 2.75% A cash withdrawal fee of around 2.5% Additional interest charges (for cash withdrawals on a credit card) Some debit cards also charge a spending fee of say £1.5 every time you you use them to pay for stuff (as opposed to withdrawing cash) You definitely can't beat the banks for their ingenuity in finding ways to rip you off!
There are some specialist cards that you can use though that don't charge all of these additional fees.
If you're in the London area then get a debit card from Metro Bank (https://www.metrobankonline.co.uk/) as they don't charge any additional fees. Alternatively get a Clarity credit card From the Halifax. This doesn't make any charge for spending abroad but will charge you 12.9% (cash withdrawal interest) i.e. About 1% per month, even if you repay in full, which is still a pretty good deal. I sometime pre-pay on my Clarity card (i.e. Put a credit balance on it to cover the amount that I intend to withdraw abroad) to avoid paying the interest charge but be aware that this is against the terms and conditions and so they could action against you if you do this.
Note that even using these cards you will find that some German banks may still hit you with a cash withdrawal charge for using a foreign card in their ATMs but you can't do much about that other than try a few different banks.
Check out this site for a fuller explanation of travel money issues: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/cheap-travel-money#topcards
The other thing I have is a multi-currency account with Citibank. This allows me to have a number of different currency accounts with them and switch between them online at any time and then use a debit card to withdraw money locally from the respective currency account. Their exchange rate isn't quite as good as the Visa / Mastercard wholesale rate though so I tend to use the other cards in preference but it is useful for playing the exchange rate game as you can change money when exchange rates are more advantageous and then just leave it in Euros or whatever until you want to travel. You can also withdraw money freely from Citibank branches abroad which was good before Citibank sold their German branches.
Super Cum 500
03-12-12, 15:08
Using plastic is still the best way to go because the Visa / Mastercard wholesale exchange rate is likely to be the best exchange rate you can get as a private citizen BUT you've got to get the right cards!
As you've found out, in the UK at least, most credit / debit cards will charge you a plethra of additional charges when you use your card abroad. These comprise: A "load" on the exchange rate of typically 2. 75% A cash withdrawal fee of around 2. 5% Additional interest charges (for cash withdrawals on a credit card) Some debit cards also charge a spending fee of say £1. 5 every time you you use them to pay for stuff (as opposed to withdrawing cash) You definitely can't beat the banks for their ingenuity in finding ways to rip you off!
There are some specialist cards that you can use though that don't charge all of these additional fees.
If you're in the London area then get a debit card from.
Metro Bank (https://www.metrobankonline.co.uk/)
As they don't charge any additional fees. Alternatively get a Clarity credit card From the Halifax. This doesn't make any charge for spending abroad but will charge you 12. 9% (cash withdrawal interest) I. E. About 1% per month, even if you repay in full, which is still a pretty good deal. I sometime pre-pay on my Clarity card (I. E. Put a credit balance on it to cover the amount that I intend to withdraw abroad) to avoid paying the interest charge but be aware that this is against the terms and conditions and so they could action against you if you do this.
Note that even using these cards you will find that some German banks may still hit you with a cash withdrawal charge for using a foreign card in their ATMs but you can't do much about that other than try a few different banks.
Check out this site for a fuller explanation of travel money issues:
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/cheap-travel-money#topcards
The other thing I have is a multi-currency account with Citibank. This allows me to have a number of different currency accounts with them and switch between them online at any time and then use a debit card to withdraw money locally from the respective currency account. Their exchange rate isn't quite as good as the Visa / Mastercard wholesale rate though so I tend to use the other cards in preference but it is useful for playing the exchange rate game as you can change money when exchange rates are more advantageous and then just leave it in Euros or whatever until you want to travel. You can also withdraw money freely from Citibank branches abroad which was good before Citibank sold their German branches.Interesting info. Thanks for that. My bank charges all fees you mentioned.
I also researched the Halifax calrity card and was going to apply for that but maybe you can help me? I don't understand how the interest on cash withdrawals from Atms works with this card. So there is no charges but you get charged interest at 12. 8% from the day you withdraw everyday.
So, if I take out £300 on The Thursday, Friday and Satruday. Then I return to Uk on the Tuesday and pay off the credit card by Wednesday how much interest would I have accumulated?
SO basically if I take out 3 *£300 withdrawals (my ATM max withdrawal limit per day) in Frankfurt. How much will I be paying back, even if I pay off this credit online within 1 week. Also, I wonder if there is a limit as to how much credit you can take. Can I take £1000 limit of debt or something? Or mayeb £500 is limit?
I wonder how much interest you are charged each day? I don't know how to work it out so not sure if a no-charges credit card is cheaper than a debit-card withdrawal with charges? Also as I say not sure max credit limit on the Halifax card?
As for pre loading the card I read about this also and it seems good idea if you can get away with it but it is against the terms and not sure how to do it exactly.
Appreciate any more advice.
Cheers
Steven Wilco
03-31-12, 21:00
I have been visiting Germany for about a year now, and have found some good resources that you may not know about. Some I have seen on this site, but most I will list I have not seen here so hopefully this is new helpful info. Want to also share some comments on my personal experiences.
First, here is a list of my main internet research resources for finding places to visit (not in any order) :
1. Go into Google search, and type in "der monger map". This resource is referenced in many spots on this forum, so I don't have anything new to add. I have found several of the web sites links embedded in the map are no longer active, and it seems like the page has not been updated in a couple years. Nevertheless, a very helpful guide.
2. If you are in Cologne / Dusseldorf area, check out http://diskret.de Great resource for places in North Rhein area.
3. Also in North Rhein area is http://www.6relax.de Another nice and up to date list of clubs, massage places, etc.
4. My fave resource I found is http://www.redlightaddressbook.net This is a great source of info for major portions of Germany. I can not read German, but I can still make my way around this site. The "karten" option showing map locations is truly awesome. Check it out!
As far as my own experiences, here is what I have found:
1. FKK's are cool, but lack of affordable booze and expensive entry fee is a big negative for me. Still, a high quality FKK like ones in Frankfurt that have been written about extensively in this forum is a "must try". For me, I prefer spending my money directly on the girls, although the fee to enter an FKK is certainly understandable to cover cost of towels, robes, food, etc. Trying a FKK was on my Bucket List, and I am glad I tried it, but been there, done that.
2. I really enjoy night clubs with service providers on staff, but they are difficult to find. There are ones on the big cities, but they are crazy expensive. I think night clubs on the whole are to be avoided in Germany, but perhaps I just have not visited the right spots yet.
3. All in all, my preference is to be in a nice city where I can walk around, grab some food, have some beers and then make my way to a nice brothel when I am feeling the urge. Of all the cities I have visited, I really enjoy Cologne. It is a very nice city with good food and pubs, and I really like the Pashca brothel. It is an easy / safe walk from downtown Cologne, and the selection of girls is pretty good. There are actually two building right across the street from each other, and if you go in the late afternoon or evening you will have at least 30 girls to pick from. With those kind of numbers, you are likely to find one to suit your likings. Plus, you can chat them up a bit as they sit in their chairs in the hallway to see if they are energetic or boring.
I will write more after future trips if I learn anything more. I hope this info helps adventure seekers in Germany. Plus, now I feel like I can use this board in good conscious knowing that I have contributed.
Have fun!
Super Cum 500
04-02-12, 16:56
Where's the best RLD in Europe?
Is it in Germany and if so which city?
I'm looking for a good site that offers information on German porno stars. While I am unaware of a lot of them, my preferences include Vivian Schmitt (that would be a dream come true) , Melanie Moon, and Sexy Susi. I don't mind traveling to whichever city they are located in. In the US and the UK, there are websites and agencies that represent tons of stars, but I haven't been able to find one for German or Germany-based stars.
SwingerLover
05-02-12, 12:29
I'm looking for a good site that offers information on German porno stars. While I am unaware of a lot of them, my preferences include Vivian Schmitt (that would be a dream come true) , Melanie Moon, and Sexy Susi. I don't mind traveling to whichever city they are located in. In the US and the UK, there are websites and agencies that represent tons of stars, but I haven't been able to find one for German or Germany-based stars.If you had bothered to check the 'gangbang clubs' and 'Bareback AO' threads of the German Partytreffs forum here on ISG, you would already have found something, since I have posted several website adresses lately. I don't know of any sites who offer info about all german pornstars, so you'll have to check each pornstars own site one by one. I had several AO-parties at 'Spermagames' with both Sexy-Susi and Melanie Moon, last time at 'Spermagames' with both of them. (Read my report in the Bareback AO thread.)
On Thursday, May 10th will be another 3-pornstar-AO-gangbang at Spermagames with Sexy-Susi, Marina Montana and Gundula Pervers, on Saturday, May 12th Melanie Moon does an AO-gangbang of her own together with Gabi (who is not a pornstar, but a real eyecatcher) in Saarbrücken. Both events will cost you 100 Euros each if you register at least 24 hours in advance, plus 20 Euros for an HIV-test, to be done on-site.
If you are into american pornstar Emma Starr, you can get inside her at AO-gangbang-events (filmed ones) at Spermastudio in Gelsenkirchen on the 28th and 29th of June. And if you don't mind being filmed, Sexy-Natalie's AO-gangbangs are another option.
All the forementioned are pornstar-gangbang-events. If you should want a single date with them (which most of them offer, depending how deep your pocket is) you'll have to ask them yourself. On Melanie Moon's site you'll even find some prices for private "Treffen".
Here (again) are those websites for you to check out:
www.spermagames.com
www.sexy-susi.info
www.mygundula.de
www.melaniemoon.com
www.marina-montana.com
www.sexynatalie.tv
www.spermastudio.de
I'm looking for a good site that offers information on German porno stars. While I am unaware of a lot of them, my preferences include Vivian Schmitt (that would be a dream come true) , Melanie Moon, and Sexy Susi. I don't mind traveling to whichever city they are located in. In the US and the UK, there are websites and agencies that represent tons of stars, but I haven't been able to find one for German or Germany-based stars.Another way to get access to some of these ladies is to try the following sites -
www.mydirtyhobby.com
www.PornMe.com
www.Privateamateure.com.
Although advertised as amateur sites, some of the better known GB girls - like the aforementioned Emma Starr mentioned above - are represented there.
You need to buy some coupons and use the private message systems to make contact.
Drawback is that some won't meet you unless you agree to filming although a mask is usually acceptable to them.
The great Anna-Lena Blum has her own escort agency based between Berlin and Leipzig but I'm not sure if she's still taking dates herself anymore or moved upstairs to the boardroom...
http://www.anna-lena-blum.com/
Not sure if Vivian Schmitt has escorted but my hunch is that she's beyond that now...
VG
SimpleMind
05-16-12, 17:46
I am looking for FKK or massage with Asian girls. Any tips?
OK, so I have been in Germany for a little while and have a few questions. I have mainly been sticking to the FKK scene, but want to venture out. After looking online, I see lots of ladies advertise their services with address and apartment numbers in the ad. A few of these ladies have no phone number. I found 3 ladies advertising services in the same apartment building, different rooms and floors, and from what I can tell this is just a regular apartment building. So, do I call first? Is this a place where you just show up? I don't want to offend or upset any of the ladies. I passed one of these places that had an advertisement for a few ladies in an apartment, when I drove by, there was a sign in the second floor window that said open, but the building appeared to be a simple apartment building. I am not sure how to approach this whole apartment building thing. I am in the Nurnberg / Erlargen? Furth area, and any info would be hugely helpful.
Thanks all!
OK, so I have been in Germany for a little while and have a few questions. I have mainly been sticking to the FKK scene, but want to venture out. After looking online, I see lots of ladies advertise their services with address and apartment numbers in the ad. A few of these ladies have no phone number. I found 3 ladies advertising services in the same apartment building, different rooms and floors, and from what I can tell this is just a regular apartment building. So, do I call first? Is this a place where you just show up? I don't want to offend or upset any of the ladies. I passed one of these places that had an advertisement for a few ladies in an apartment, when I drove by, there was a sign in the second floor window that said open, but the building appeared to be a simple apartment building. I am not sure how to approach this whole apartment building thing. I am in the Nurnberg / Erlargen? Furth area, and any info would be hugely helpful.
Thanks all!Yes many of the German adds show the address, you could just show up at the door, but If the lady Is busy then you will be stood there, most adds do show phone numbers, and a few words In German may help you to book the appointment.
Hamburg Street
05-30-12, 00:31
I am going to Hamburg in a few weeks, do you think I could take photo's of the german ladies while they suck my cock or I fuck them?
Pardon me if it already has been posted and I can't find it. Is there a glossary of German terms and acronyms and their English definitions? In particular, I am curious what is meant by the acronyms FO and GV.
Angus Magee
06-17-12, 13:11
In particular, I am curious what is meant by the acronyms FO and GV.FO=BBBJ (no cim)
GV=Full service sex more commonly known as fucking.
AM
SwingerLover
06-17-12, 14:23
pardon me if it already has been posted and i can't find it. is there a glossary of german terms and acronyms and their english definitions? in particular, i am curious what is meant by the acronyms fo and gv.here's a website with lots of german acronyms and abbreviations:
www.traummaennlein.com/abkuerzungen.htm
of course the explanations are in german, so you'll have to use a translation tool or ask again about anything special.
here are ome common ones:
ao = alles ohne (literally: all without) ; bareback fucking and blowing.
fo = französisch ohne (lit. : french without) ; bbbj, usually with out cim.
fn = französisch natur (lit. : french natural) ; same as fo.
ft = französisch total (lit. : french complete) ; bbbj including cim and cof.
gb = gesichtsbesamung; cof. also of course:
gb = gangbang.
gs = gruppensex (lit. : group sex)
gv = geschlechtsverkehr (lit. : sexual intercourse)
ns = natursekt (lit. : natural champagne) ; [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103), [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
nsa, nsp, nsma = ns aktiv, passiv, mit aufnahme (lit. : with intake) ; she pisses, she's being pissed on, she gets pissed in the mouth and swallows.
pt = partnertausch (lit. : swapping partners)
tg = taschengeld (lit. : pocket money) ; paid sex. (unlike tg in english, which means transgender.)
tr, ts = trans, transsexual; transgender.
za = zungenanal (lit. : tongue-anal) ; asslicking, rimming.
zk = zungenküsse (lit. : tongue kisses) ; french kissing
Here's a website with lots of german acronyms and abbreviations:
www.traummaennlein.com/abkuerzungen.htmI looked at above website, but did not see CDL. I have seen that on some German forums and apparently means sex worker but could someone give clearer translation
SwingerLover
06-17-12, 18:57
I looked at above website, but did not see CDL. I have seen that on some German forums and apparently means sex worker but could someone give clearer translationStupid abbreviation. Or better: Stupid term.
CDL stands for ClubDienstLeisterin. Translates as Club Service Provider. Or rather Provideress. And of course it means sex worker. It seems as if Orwell's newspeak as reached the sex business scene. I didn't know that CDL abbreviation myself and had to look it up.
Pardon me if it already has been posted and I can't find it. Is there a glossary of German terms and acronyms and their English definitions? In particular, I am curious what is meant by the acronyms FO and GV.Hi Eeyore-
There was a good discussion related to your question, if you will go back to old posts in March of this year. Go to the German forum- FKK Clubs, FKK FAQ thread- Read posts 843 through 846, and a couple more nearby, and I think you will get the information you are looking for.
Horbate
Angus Magee
06-18-12, 11:39
ns = natursekt (lit. : natural champagne) ; rep002, [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).it is worth noting that ns is often written as ns spiel-ns play or games. put through a web translator it is often translates as nazi games. i guess the translator sees ns and reads nationalist socialist. the first time i noticed this on a translated german web site i was shocked to say the least as i can not imagine any bordello in germany openly advertising such a fetish. it may well happen here but not as an openly advertised special.
it was only after i went back to the german site that i noticed that they were talking about [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) games.
am
AColonizer
06-23-12, 15:01
Hi, fellows,
Did you realize uncovered blowjobs are outlaw in the Bavaria Lander? How can people get AO sex if it is not possible even uncovered blowjobs? So do people pay crazy prices for rubberish sex only?
That's very funny for Bavarian husbands too: "oh my darling, I can't suck your penis otherwise we have to pay a fine to our government.".
Mrknowitall
07-05-12, 22:53
I am going to Hamburg in a few weeks, do you think I could take photo's of the german ladies while they suck my cock or I fuck them?Everyone has their price, usually they charge another E50, and will cover their face. Many are more open to them taking photos of YOU eating or fucking them. That way their face is not in the photo. I"ve never been willing to pay the cost of "full on everyting photos". (aka porno shoot) Those are beyond my budget.
Mrknowitall
07-05-12, 22:57
I'm looking for a good site that offers information on German porno stars. While I am unaware of a lot of them, my preferences include Vivian Schmitt (that would be a dream come true) , Melanie Moon, and Sexy Susi. I don't mind traveling to whichever city they are located in. In the US and the UK, there are websites and agencies that represent tons of stars, but I haven't been able to find one for German or Germany-based stars.Melanie and Susi both fuck fans all over Germany. I just fucked Melanie a few weekends ago without a condom at SpermaGames. You need a rantal car to get there. I fucked Susi about 9 months ago at a Saskia Farwell party. (With condom)
http://www.spermagames.com/
http://www.saskia-farell.com/
Mrknowitall
07-05-12, 22:59
Hi, fellows,
Did you realize uncovered blowjobs are outlaw in the Bavaria Lander? How can people get AO sex if it is not possible even uncovered blowjobs? So do people pay crazy prices for rubberish sex only?
That's very funny for Bavarian husbands too: "oh my darling, I can't suck your penis otherwise we have to pay a fine to our government.".I heard that AO was now outlawed in Hansastadt Bremen. (HB)
SwingerLover
07-07-12, 15:35
Melanie and Susi both fuck fans all over Germany. I just fucked Melanie a few weekends ago without a condom at SpermaGames. You need a rantal car to get there. I fucked Susi about 9 months ago at a Saskia Farwell party. (With condom)
http://www.spermagames.com/
http://www.saskia-farell.com/Hi, Mr!
Was that Saskia-Party the one at Swingerclub Drunter & Drüber in Mönchengladbach? Because if so, I've been there too! Had much fun with Susi, with Saskia herself and especially with Pia, who was the hottest one around! How sad that Saskia doesn't do AO-Parties.
Oh, and about the Anti-AO-thing in Bremen: I got that from the gb01-website and have already written about it in the General Info thread of the Germany Partytreff forum!
Can someone tell me the nearest flat rate clubs to the slovenian border?
Thank you
Hi, I apologize in advance if my question is illegal. I turn to you for help in finding a decent discreet private apartment level in Germany. Looking for the best daily operation, where fewer girls. Offers are many, but I do not think all true. Previously I worked as a hostess in the Czech Republic, now I wanted to return to work and I found that a lot has changed not only in prices but also a level of access to colleagues. I did not know where to turn with this inquiry and one of my clients I recommend this discussion forum. For any information in advance thank you very much and wish you a beautiful day.
Best Regards,
Amanda
Angus Magee
08-12-12, 09:23
Hi, I apologize in advance if my question is illegal. I turn to you for help in finding a decent discreet private apartment level in Germany. Looking for the best daily operation, where fewer girls. Offers are many, but I do not think all true. Previously I worked as a hostess in the Czech Republic, now I wanted to return to work and I found that a lot has changed not only in prices but also a level of access to colleagues. I did not know where to turn with this inquiry and one of my clients I recommend this discussion forum. For any information in advance thank you very much and wish you a beautiful day.
Best Regards,
AmandaMaybe you can give Kamilla Dee a try here in Berlin. It is said to be well run (female owned and operated) and offeres a safe, clean and busy environment for the ladies.
http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm
AM
SwingerLover
08-12-12, 12:20
Hi, I apologize in advance if my question is illegal. I turn to you for help in finding a decent discreet private apartment level in Germany. Looking for the best daily operation, where fewer girls. Offers are many, but I do not think all true. Previously I worked as a hostess in the Czech Republic, now I wanted to return to work and I found that a lot has changed not only in prices but also a level of access to colleagues. I did not know where to turn with this inquiry and one of my clients I recommend this discussion forum. For any information in advance thank you very much and wish you a beautiful day.
Best Regards,
AmandaAre you looking for something in a city or would you consider a rural area too? If you were to offer Bareback and Gangbang services in my area around Hahn airport, then you would have the field to yourself for almost the entire Bundesland of Rhineland-Palantine. Another upside is cheap rent and lower cost of living. Downside is that there are not as many men (and therefore potential customers) around as in big cities. So also a bit of a risk involved here. That's why you would have to offer something special like Bareback services and gangbangs or group activity, like what's written about in the Bareback threads of the Germany Partyftreff Clubs forum. And for such parties the close proximity to Hahn airport could even be useful to attract customers from abroad. I would be glad to assist if this is an option for you.
Hi guys, especially Swingerlover,
I apologize for my naivety and ignorance of the subjects, I've been in many countries where one can get "common" P4P services, I mean when one alone gets a girl alone and has "normal" straight sex: oral, vaginal and maybe anal. The maximum risk I have taken is uncovered blowjob, and the times my condom broke inside always frightened me. I've never travelled to Germany but I might do it in a close future, so I would like to ask some questions about the flat rate clubs. A friend of mine, who has been in many FKKs, says he didn't try these so called pauschal klubs because he fears that there might be less girls, less beautiful and bad service. Can you give details about these flat rate clubs? I read in some posts that you pay up to 150 euros for all day and then you can have sex for as long as you can make it. But how long will a girl stay with you for that? What services will she offer? Where can one find these flats?
Other question, not only for Swingerlover:
In many posts I read about all bareback, AO. Very ingenuous question: how do you deal with STDs? I read that you take part to gangbangs, that to participate you must have your HIV test done recently or pay some 20 euros on the spot to have it done, but I know also that HIV might stay "hidden" for up to 6 months before showing out in a test, which shouldn't give peace of mind. Also there are many other STD's, more or less heavy, syphilis, herpes, hepatitis, etc. Do you test them all?
I apologize again because reading Germany's section makes me feel less than zero as a monger, since I've been in so many places with so many girls just doing "basic" stuff while there is a country where nearly any sexdream can come true. Even legally and encoded. Of course I came across some "special" offers, but they were personal initiatives of the girl I was dealing with, not advertised clubs with employes and organization behind.
Thanks in advance to those who will want to answer me. If and when I go to Germany I will post. Currently set a trip to Poland for next month, for "usual, common basic stuff". Obviously I'll post.
Bye
SwingerLover
08-27-12, 10:07
I apologize for my naivety and ignorance of the subjects, I've been in many countries where one can get "common" P4P services, I mean when one alone gets a girl alone and has "normal" straight sex: oral, vaginal and maybe anal. The maximum risk I have taken is uncovered blowjob, and the times my condom broke inside always frightened me. I've never travelled to Germany but I might do it in a close future, so I would like to ask some questions about the flat rate clubs. A friend of mine, who has been in many FKKs, says he didn't try these so called pauschal klubs because he fears that there might be less girls, less beautiful and bad service. Can you give details about these flat rate clubs? I read in some posts that you pay up to 150 euros for all day and then you can have sex for as long as you can make it. But how long will a girl stay with you for that? What services will she offer? Where can one find these flats?
In many posts I read about all bareback, AO. Very ingenuous question: how do you deal with STDs? I read that you take part to gangbangs, that to participate you must have your HIV test done recently or pay some 20 euros on the spot to have it done, but I know also that HIV might stay "hidden" for up to 6 months before showing out in a test, which shouldn't give peace of mind. Also there are many other STD's, more or less heavy, syphilis, herpes, hepatitis, etc. Do you test them all?Hi!
No reason to agologize for naivety if you're inquiring about something that is new to you.
In the FKKs are definitely more girls than in the flatrate clubs and propably better looking ones too. That's why the FKKs become so prohibitively expensive if you stay there for an entire day and want to have multiple action. That's why I don't go to FKKs, even though I like the nudity stuff a lot, but I don't like their concepts. As for the service, well, that depends on the place and on the women who are there. And even good ones have bad days.
You can find flatrate clubs all over Germany. If you are looking for bareback flatrate, there are less options of course than with rubber. Check some german advertising websites for details and locations:
www.fickanzeigen.net
www.fickreklame.com
www.hotparty-nrw.de
Or any link I posted on the Bareback AO Party Calendar thread.
Hard to give any specific advice without knowing WHERE in Germany you will be. I mostly post only for what is within two and a half hours from my home. Price range usually is from 40 to 140 Euros, depending on where you go and who is there. Spermagames had cost 120 Euros plus 20 for test and the party was AO with 3 to 8 women and for around 8 hours. The apartment parties in Krefeld are from 50 to 80 Euros for 8 to 12 hours with 3 to 11 women, no test required. Filmed gangbangs are usually a bit cheaper, depending on 'where and who'. Melanie Moon Gangbangs at her place in Saarbrücken cost about 60 to 80 Euros plus test.
Most of the parties I go to are gangbangs or group sex parties with 'public' action, meaning everybody can watch and join in. The flatrate days at Cleopatra Arena in Gelsenkirchen, LaLuna in Moers and Angelique in Viersen are to my knowledge single service flatrate days. I haven't been to either. The girls should stay around 20 minutes per session. At the group sex parties, there is no fixed limit. Neither for time, nor for how often you do it. But at a gangbang it naturally is unwanted to occupy a woman for a lengthy time period if there are other guys waiting in line. That doesn't mean that you don't get some half-an-hour-one-on-one-session there; I had that even at Spermagames. But I wouldn't count on it.
The services depend on the women. Usually it's advertised upfront, but with the Krefeld-parties, you usually can't believe all that's advertised. And even if a woman is advertised for anal, it still depends on her mood of the day. And that's true for the bareback and the rubber parties. If you're looking for rubber parties as well: Saskia Farell parties are quite good, and I hear only good things about Zhuzha in Ratingen.
Regarding your question about dealing with STDs: How do you deal with the risks of accidents when you travel? If you are not afraid to drive for hours from place to place despite the thousands of traffic victims per year, then I don't see why you are afraid of STDs. And almost everybody who does tests only test for HIV, except for Spermagames who tested for Syph too.
About AO read up in the Germany Partytreff Clubs forum, specificly in the Bareback AO, Krefeld AO Parties, Spermagames and Cleopatra Arena threads for reports and check the Bareback Calendar thread for coming parties and links to websites.
Rock on!
Hi SwingerLover,
Thank you for your understanding and your answer.
For next 2 months I planned holidays in Poland and Romania, I don't know when I'm going to try Germany, so I don't know where either. It should be a city with pauschalclubs to choose from, easy to reach by airplain, not too expensive and possibly with some touristic attractions as well, so I guess it could be Berlin, not Munchen. Since I'm travelling for holiday I can choose the city, I've friends trying Germany everywhere that can give me general infos, maybe even travel toghether, but they know only about FKKs, they ignored the flatrate clubs until I read it here on ISG and spread the news. I'm reading in posts that in Germany everywhere you go you can find sex, in the streets, in clubs, in brothels, in FKKs, in kinos (what are these?) , etc. So much to handle! Since I rather being alone with the girl, I'm afraid partytreffs are not for me, I hate having other eyes watching and other cocks around, I tried a couple of swingers clubs in my life, I tried with a friend of mine once 1 once 2 prostitutes alltoghether, therefore being once 3 and once 4 in a bed, and I didn't feel at ease at all! Maybe I should try this kind of experiences after swallowing blue candies, LOL! FKKs don't suit me either, because I want to have more than one shot and anyway I can't be bothered by chronometers, that's why I go to cheap countries. 4 girls in Bucharest (which being the capital should be also the most expensive place of the country) can cost me the sole entrance of Artemis, if time runs out (depending on agreements) , adding a few. Really a few. Euros will sort out any problem, in a FKK 300 euros may not be enough for 1 day. Plus outer costs of hotel, food, etc. I aim to keep a low budget for my holidays, and not only because of being stingy.
Thank you for the sites, unfortunately my german is close to 0 but with google translator I got some help, when I'll plan a visit to Germany I'll make proper investigations, sites in english and possibly other questions here. You wrote about flatrate days, was it a mistake? What did you mean by "single service flatrate days"? What happens after the 20 minutes you mentioned? I'll not be through in that while. Can I continue with another girl? Can I go back to the same after a while? I understood you don't go to pauschals, but probably you can know anyway how they work. I hope someone who does will post, I'll read other less recent pages on ISG to find infos, in the meantime I'll carry on my "routine mongering".
As to STDs, I respect all points of view. I think few people hate condoms more than I do because many times I don't feel pleasure in fucking, I just bang, to say it all I'm envious with those who suffer from ejaculatio precox because they feel and release, when I have girlfriend even making AO I may not release, so you can imagine me using a condom and making sex more times a day for many consecutive days. Many times I'll not finish. But still I prefer to penetrate with rubber.
P. S. Unless a trip to Germany makes me change my mind! LOL.
Bye
SwingerLover
08-28-12, 17:51
, in kinos (what are these?) , etc. So much to handle! Since I rather being alone with the girl, I'm afraid partytreffs are not for me, I hate having other eyes watching and other cocks around, I tried a couple of swingers clubs in my life,
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I can't be bothered by chronometers, that's why I go to cheap countries. 4 girls in Bucharest (which being the capital should be also the most expensive place of the country) can cost me the sole entrance of Artemis, if time runs out (depending on agreements) , adding a few.
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You wrote about flatrate days, was it a mistake? What did you mean by "single service flatrate days"? What happens after the 20 minutes you mentioned? I'll not be through in that while. Can I continue with another girl? Can I go back to the same after a while? I understood you don't go to pauschals, but probably you can know anyway how they work. I hope someone who does will post, I'll read other less recent pages on ISG to find infos, in the meantime I'll carry on my "routine mongering".
As to STDs, I respect all points of view.Hello again!
"Kinos" (= cinemas) are porn theatres, often attached to a sex shop, where sometimes public gangbangs are held. Either organized ones by a special provider like "Kinogirls" or sometimes as spontaneous actions from some private couples and woman like Gangbang-Natascha, who I just one year ago today at around this time have bareback fucked for the first time at the EGO-pornkino in Oberhonnefeld.
No good for you if you prefer one-on-one with the women. And most Partytreffs won't work for you either. There are very few flatrate Paryttreffs where you can go behind closed doors with a girl (much less occupy her for half an hour or more) and even fewer if you are looking for AO. Seems to me that you would be better off at an FKK, aside from the cost.
By "single service flatrate days" I mean exactly what you seem to be looking for. Example: Cleopatra Arena in Gelsenkirchen. Usually you pay for play each time you play. On Wednesdays they have a flatrate day with 79 Euros regular price; 99 including AO and 119 including AO and anal. You can go as often as you like (and girls and rooms are available) without any extra pay and it still happens behind closed doors and one-on-one. So you get single service (without anyone watching) for a flatrate price. And on their flatrate days, LaLuna in Moers basically works the same way, except that it is 130 Euros for AO and you can go a maximum of 8 times. Another option would be Treff188 in Eschborn near Frankfurt, where they used to take 85 Euros and everybody went behind closed doors too. Which is why I stopped going there. And this place was strictly 'rubber' too. (Even though I managed to sneak in some AO.) But I recommend against Treff188 from my last experiences there. (Unless maybe they have gotten better in the meantime.) About LaLuna I hear and read almost only bad stuff (and the good stuff is only about the Gangbang) and Cleopatra Arena gets mixed reports, bad ones are the majority. From personal experience I recommend to stay away from Schneewittchen in Viersen and relax-today in Kerpen. So you see the dilemma: The only ones fitting your search parameters are no good or not recommendable. What's left is Angelique in Viersen, but there hasn't been any flatrate day since the 12th of July. And they were the ones with the 20 minute time limit. I don't know what happens after that, I don't think that the girls have a stopwatch present during things, but I doubt that you'll get more than half an hour per session when there's a whole bunch of guys downstairs waiting their turn.
Since you don't want what I like best (groupsex) and look for single service for flatrate prices, I don't know what else to recommend. Maybe somebody else can help.
One more thing about the STDs: I already had posted previously that some guys I met use an ointment named "Inimur" or a spray named "Octenisept" after bareback sex.
Hi SwingerLover,
Thank you for your answers, accurate and fast.
You could probably write your own guide, propose it both to sex providers for advertising and to Germany tourist offices to implement their list of attractions.)
If you think I gave you a good idea and you do it, and make money out of it, please remember me.)
As to my searches, I thought that flatrate clubs were different stuff from partytreffs, not part of them. I'm sorry for being stubborn, but if "flatrate" (e. G. 79$) means all included apart AO (99$) and anal (119$) , this is more or less the possible performance you get normally everywhere by any girl! And I haven't understood the maximum 8 times if I pay for each play, not that I'm going to make 9 attempts in one day, but as long as one pays he should be welcome and allowed. Since in places like Bucharest I can fulfill my needs with 100 euros or less a day, putting toghether accommodation, strolling, food, taxis and a minimum of 2 girls a day without worrying too much about time or performances (for what I want) , you can understand why I go to east and I haven't been yet to Germany, where with 100 euros I probably don't go much farther than just accommodation and taxis.
I was curious to try the flatrates thinking that they could make worth a trip for my standards, even if still much more costly considering the whole thing, but if you are right about time allowances and other conditions, I don't need to rush bookings. To be honest, your descriptions don't encourage me. Soon at least one friend of mine will travel somewhere in Germany and I told him to investigate on the spot and ask whomever might have accurate infos, starting from taxi drivers.
Let me thank you once again, also for your patience.
SwingerLover
08-30-12, 15:57
As to my searches, I thought that flatrate clubs were different stuff from partytreffs, not part of them. I'm sorry for being stubborn, but if "flatrate" (e. G. 79$) means all included apart AO (99$) and anal (119$) , this is more or less the possible performance you get normally everywhere by any girl! And I haven't understood the maximum 8 times if I pay for each play,I would say that all Partytreffs are flatrate clubs, like Treff188.
Cleopatra Arena, LaLuna and Angelique are usually not flatrate. And they are no Partytreffs either, they call themselves "Saunaclub" or simply "Club" and are more like the FKK-Clubs, only that the girls aren't naked all the time. So you usually pay as you play, and then there's no 8-times-limit either.
But they do flatrate days sporadically, in case of CA every Wednesday. On those days you don't pay for each play seperately, but can go as often as you like with all girls who are available for what you pay for. But at LaLuna only up to 8 times for paying 130 Euros once for all 8 sessions, whether you use them or not. If you go for the anal version for 119 Euros at CA, it might be that there are only 2 girls there for anal. But for paying just once, you can go with all girls during the entire party time and do with them whatever they are available for.
The "possible performance you get normally everywhere by any girl" is that you pay the one girl the 80 Euros. At CA you get ALL the girls for the flatrate price on the flatrate day, like at a Partytreff.
So you see: A Partytreff is flatrate, but not everybody who offers flatrate is a Partytreff.
I think that now I understood better, it must have been the expression "single service" that misleaded me when I wrote about any girl anywhere.
I think I'll probably come to Germany next year, anyway for sure after my already planned trips, so I have time to gather other infos, and you too, after all it is also your interest!.)
I would like to visit a big city (Berlin? Frankfurt?) , easy to reach by plane and with some touristic interests as well, it might be difficult and costly to reach some small cities just for a flat banging experience. I don't know whether Gelsenkirchen has got an airport or not, but I'm pretty sure that Krefeld, Oberhausen and Viersen have not, so I need to find other names and addresses, but I appreheciate a lot the infos you gave me, also for how these clubs work.
Thank you very much.
Cheers
I think that now I understood better, it must have been the expression "single service" that misleaded me when I wrote about any girl anywhere.
I think I'll probably come to Germany next year, anyway for sure after my already planned trips, so I have time to gather other infos, and you too, after all it is also your interest.)
I would like to visit a big city (Berlin? Frankfurt?) , easy to reach by plane and with some touristic interests as well, it might be difficult and costly to reach some small cities just for a flat banging experience. I don't know whether Gelsenkirchen has got an airport or not, but I'm pretty sure that Krefeld, Oberhausen and Viersen have not, so I need to find other names and addresses, but I appreheciate a lot the infos you gave me, also for how these clubs work.
Thank you very much.
Cheers
Dark Vader
08-30-12, 19:37
As to my searches, I thought that flatrate clubs were different stuff from partytreffs, not part of them. I'm sorry for being stubborn, but if "flatrate" (e. G. 79$) means all included apart AO (99$) and anal (119$) , this is more or less the possible performance you get normally everywhere by any girl!Hello EastGoing,
Just a few more comments to add to SwingLover's words of wisdom.
In the first instance I would suggest that we move the debate over to the dedicated.
Partytreff forum (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?762-Germany-Partytreff-Clubs)
They are lots of threads there on the more popular partytreffs and pauschalclubs and you will get a better idea of their various pros and cons.
Both partytreff's and pauschalclubs are flat rate (i.e. you pay one price and then fuck as much as you want) and as a rough and ready rule all pauschalcubs provide single room service whilst partytreffs are more likely to offer open door action but of course there are exceptions. As SwingLover quite rightly says Saunaclubs are not flat rate clubs although some do flat-rate deals on a periodic or adhoc basis. There are also low cost FKKs which although not flat rate have charges much lower than the big mainstream FKKs and can offer deals around 110 to 120$ for four sessions. Then of course there are the gangbang clubs which are flat rate as well but obviously would not be your cup of tea by the sounds of it.
Undoubtedly North Rhine-Westphalia is the best state in Germany for flat rate clubs and typically you'll find that most of the service providers come from Eastern European countries.
I think that now I understood better, it must have been the expression "single service" that misleaded me when I wrote about any girl anywhere.
I think I'll probably come to Germany next year, anyway for sure after my already planned trips, so I have time to gather other infos, and you too, after all it is also your interest!.)
I would like to visit a big city (Berlin? Frankfurt?) , easy to reach by plane and with some touristic interests as well, it might be difficult and costly to reach some small cities just for a flat banging experience. I don't know whether Gelsenkirchen has got an airport or not, but I'm pretty sure that Krefeld, Oberhausen and Viersen have not, so I need to find other names and addresses, but I appreheciate a lot the infos you gave me, also for how these clubs work.
Thank you very much. Cheers
Hi Dark Vader,
I earlier wrote the lines above to thank SwingerLover for his kind efforts to set light in my darkness, but it seems that the server didn't work, so I'm re-posting it. I'm curious about the 4 sessions for 120-130 $. So carry on.)
As to the providers, as a consumer I know that getting the goods straight from the producer cuts down a lot the cost, in fact I'm. Eastgoing.)
i just found out the partytreff and pauschal thread!
let me explain: when i type isg i go straight down the initial page, where there all the countries, so i see only "germany" and "germany fkk"!
i'm speechless! i think that now i can find out by myself without hassling anymore.
thank you
Hi guys,
As you can see this is my first post, I am going to go to Berlin and after read a lot the forum, thanks to all of you, now I have a better idea to what expect from the bordello and artemis.
Before them (artemis and bordello- KD or VK) I have few question, hoping that you can answer and help.
I will be Sunday, from late afternoon, then Monday and Tuesday for IFA Electronic fair, so I need your suggestions for when is better to go to Artemis.
Is the price of 160 € all inclusive (girl + room) when referred to bordello or shall I pay extra for rent the room, as it seems from VK website price list?
- Is Mercedes at KD good? She seems to provide all services I like, such as deepthroat and A-level, anybody tried?
- At Artemis, who provide Deepthroat?
- Anybody as a direct contact of Lora Gora?
- Suggestion for a good girl to host in my hotel?
- Last but not the least, anybody knows anything about an american girl names AIMMEE DUDEVANT (http://berlin-escort-aimmeedudevant.********.de/) she seems really open minded but pictures are a bit tricky, seems overweight.
I promess reviews as soon as at home or maybe on the way from the field, as usually I do at Captain.
Thanks in advance for help
Angus Magee
09-01-12, 15:15
I will be Sunday, from late afternoon, then Monday and Tuesday for IFA Electronic fair, so I need your suggestions for when is better to go to Artemis.Suggest that you check out the Artemis thread for this info. Plenty has been written on the subject of when to go during the IFA. In particular look for Rocketboy's posts.
Is the price of 160 € all inclusive (girl + room) when referred to bordello or shall I pay extra for rent the room, as it seems from VK website price list?The fee includes any room fees. Only thing extra are things like anal etc.
- Is Mercedes at KD good? She seems to provide all services I like, such as deepthroat and A-level, anybody tried?
- At Artemis, who provide Deepthroat?
- Anybody as a direct contact of Lora Gora?
- Suggestion for a good girl to host in my hotel?
- Last but not the least, anybody knows anything about an american girl names AIMMEE DUDEVANT (
http://berlin-escort-aimmeedudevant.********.de/
) she seems really open minded but pictures are a bit tricky, seems overweight.Can not really speak to this. In any case it would be more productive to ask about Artemis in the Artemis thread.
As for Aimmee-rather you than me is all I can say. There is better out there that's for sure.
If she is around when you are you might try this girl.
http://www.kaufmich.com/lilou
Deep throat, good service and makes house calls I believe. Only thing is she only visits Berlin every few months, next time in October I believe.
AM
Interesting report in the Budapest section.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?692-Budapest&p=1323721&viewfull=1#post1323721
Might have implications for anyone thinking of visiting Termingirls at Ratingen, near Duesseldorf Airport.
http://www.termingirls24.de/indexengl.php
Quite a few of of the Hungarian girls there double-up in the porn industry...
Hi,
I have to go to Heilbronn, for 5 days at the start of November,
Is there any action there?
Is there a red light area similar to the area around the train station in Frankfurt?
Any contacts or Info will be much appreciated.
MB
BrooklynNY
10-23-12, 23:33
I was just curious if there is anything worth checking out in Wuppertal?
SwingerLover
10-25-12, 13:29
Since the question has popped up again in the Munich forum and since I'm getting tired of answering the same questions in different threads over and over again, here's the website to have a look at: www.traummaennlein.com/abkuerzungen.htm
I also explained those abbreviations that was asked about in the Munich thread, as I did with some in the Partytreff Clubs forum too. So you can have a look there too.
SwingerLover
11-12-12, 18:24
I put some info about shuttle bus services from and to airport Frankfurt-Hahn (HHN) into the Trip Planning Tips thread of the Germany Partytreff Clubs forum.
Can anyone explain what these two acronyms mean?
I have a good guess for NS.
Thanks in advance.
Dark Vader
11-12-12, 23:38
can anyone explain what these two acronyms mean?
ihave a good guess for ns
tx in advancejust two posts below yours swingerlover took the trouble of posting a link to a website which will define these two rep001ological terms for you
Hello Fellas.
I'm planning to go somewhere in east europe on 31st eve to have good time, I'm thinking about any one of these countries such as Slovakia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania or Latvia. But just one place and not a metro city where there would be lots of foreigners to have same business but any good city with good clubs, beautiful girls to have good time and ofcourse not so many mongers around.
Really need suggestions to have a good trip and some good time.
I'm living in Berlin and if anybody is up for join and make trip together then you are most welcome. Angus I would expect your suggestions as well as you are the best adviser in ISG forum.
SwingerLover
11-13-12, 13:13
just two posts below yours swingerlover took the trouble of posting a link to a website which will define these two rep001ological terms for yousometimes, just sometimes, i wonder why i even bother. this was the 5th or 6th time that i posted this traummaennlein-link on isg, and here it wasn't even buried under more recent posts.
can anyone explain what these two acronyms mean?ns=natursekt (=naturalchampagne, rep002, [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134))
kv=kaviar (=[CodeWord137] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord137), shit, rep001, dumping a load on each other)
i reckon you were too stunned by the bienenkorb site to see my post with the traummaennlein-link. now you know where to find it, should you need it again.
Angus Magee
11-13-12, 13:43
Sometimes, just sometimes, I wonder why I even bother. This was the 5th or 6th time that I posted this Traummaennlein-link on ISG, and here it wasn't even buried under more recent posts.I sent a message to Jackson to try to get him to add your useful link for German terms to the abbreviations post. This might held a bit though I imagine people will still ask before looking themselves. It is the nature of the beast. Maybe the internet makes us lazy as a species?
AM
Thomas Jefferson
11-13-12, 17:19
a.
a / p a / p. aktiv, passiv
a2m. anal to mouth, penis o. a. aus dem anus direkt in den mund
ac / dc. bisexuell
af. algerierfranzösisch, wie zungenanal
ag. antwortgarantie
ahf. achselhöhlenfick, sogenanntes "italienisch"
ao. alles ohne, ohne kondom
ast. aftersextalk
at. a tergo, von hinten
aufn. mit aufnahme (des spermas in den mund)
auss. aussehen
av. analverkehr
b.
be. black, schwarz
b. bondage, fesseln und gefesselt werden
b&d. bondage & discipline, fesseln und erziehen
b / d. bondage / discipline, fesseln und erziehen
bbb. bart, bauch, brille, z. b. in wendungen "kein bbb"oder "bbb ok".
bbw. big breasted woman, grossbusige frau, oder big beautiful woman, auch rubensfrau
bd. blinddate
bdsm. bondage (fesselspiele) und sado-maso (schmerzspiele)
beschn. beschnitten, die penisvorhaut ist weg
bff. bauchfaltenfick
bh. bh-größe (körbchengröße)
bhv. bahnhofsviertel
bi. bisexuell (bi-er, bi-sie, bi-mann, bi-frau, bi-party.)
bifi. billigficker, entstanden i'm zusammenhang mit fkk-dumpingpreisen
biz. bizarr
bj. blow job = französisch beim mann, sogen."blasen"
bld. blond
bmb. bitte mit bild
braun-weiß. spiele mit kot und sperma
bs. a) bordsteinschwalbe, mädchen vom strassenstrich be) blood sport (selten) , dem partner kleine schnitte zufügen
btbm. body to body massage
btw. by the way, nebenbei gesagt
bub. brothel utility bag, enthält alles, was willi i'm puff braucht
buko. bumskoffer, bordell-utensilien-koffer
bv. brustverkehr, spanisch
bw. brustwarzen
bw-piercing. brustwarzenpiercing
bw-typ. bundeswehr-typ.
c.
cbt. cock & balls.torture, schwanz- und eier-folter
cd*. chef / in des + kürzel des clubs
coi. coitus interruptus
cr. cock ring, penisring
cun. cunnilingus, lecken der frau i'm scheidenbereich
cys. cybersex, sex aus dem internet.
d.
dd. dildo
dev. devot
dgwe. dreamgirlweekend
dom. dominant
dp. doppelpack, sex mit zwei frauen
ds. dildospiele
dt. deep throat oder auch dirty talk
dw. damenwäsche
dwt. damenwäscheträger (homo- oder heterosexuell)
e.
ec. eroscenter
einz. einzeln / einzelne
el. eierlecken
engl. englisch, züchtigung durch erzieher / in mit rohrstock
erz- you. beh. erziehung und behandlung
erz / erz. erziehung, erziehen, erzogen
exhib. exhibitionistisch.
f.
fa. fingeranal
fe. fusserotik
fel. fellatio, „blasen' des penis
fem. frau, z. b."nur fems", weiblich
ff. a) faustfick be) fussfetisch
fft. a) faustfick total be) fussfetisch total
fist. fisting, faustfick, anal oder vaginal
fk. fahrtkosten
fkk. in verb. mit clubs, girls meist nackt, männer mit handtuch / bademantel
flag. flagellieren, ein wenig hauen
fo / fo. a) französisch ohne, blasen ohne kondom ohne aufnahme be) mittlerweile seltener: französisch optimal, blasen mit aufnahme
fp. französisch pur, blasen natur ohne kondom, ohne aufnahme, bzw. lecken ohne folienschutz
franz. franze. französisch, oralverkehr bei ihm oder ihr
frot. frotteur, lustgewinn durch berührung / reiben z. be in bus oder kaufhaus
fs. a) face sitting, die frau sitzt auf dem gesicht des sex-partners be) falle schieben, den gv vortäuschen
ft. französisch total, i'm sprachgebrauch mittlerweile: blasen ohne kondom mit aufnahme, mit oder ohne schlucken des spermas, je nach absprache
g.
gal. i'm englischen: stute / frau
gb. a) gesichtsbesamung, be) gang-bang
gem. gemeinsam
gf6. girlfriendsex, sex wie mit einer guten freundin, incl. schmusen, küssen usw.
gp. g-punkt
gr. griechisch / analverkehr
gs. gruppensex
gv. geschlechtsverkehr.
h.
he. handentspanung
hengst. (sexuell aktiver) mann, meist in der formulierung "hengst sucht stute"
het. heterosexuell
hh. hobby-hure, nicht hauptberuflich tätige dame des gewerbes, mit leistung gegen entgelt
hiv+. hiv-test positiv, the. h. mit dem hiv-virus infiziert.
hp. homepage
have. handverkehr / masturbation
hwg. häufig wechselnder geschlechtsverkehr.
i.
imho. in my humble opinion / meiner bescheidenen meinung nach
int. /intr. interesse, interessent, interessierte
is. intimschmuck
it. italienisch, der mann "dringt in die achselhöhle ein"
j.
j. jahre.
k.
kb. körperbesamung
kf. konfektionsgröße.
kfi. keine finanziellen interessen
kkf. kniekehlenfick
ks. kuschelsex
kv. kaviar
l.
lg. lang
lt. liebestechnik.
m.
ml. morgenlatte
mmf. male + male + female. 2 männer und 1 frau. beliebige kombinationen möglich.
mnl. männlich
mod. moderator, ehrenamtl. mitarbeiter eines forums
mww 1 mann und 2 frauen. beliebige kombinationen: mm (2 männer) , ww (2 frauen) , mw (1 mann. 1 frau) , mmm (3 männer) , mmw (2 männer 1 frau)
n.
ne. necking, liebesspiele oberhalb der gürtellinie
nr. nichtraucher
ns. natursekt (urin)
nt. nichttrinker.
o.
öm. ölmassage, russisch
ons. one night stand, nur einmal sex mit dem partner
ov. oralverkehr
ow. oberweite
p.
pg / s. puffgänger, jemand der häufig käuflichen sex in anspruch nimmt.
pp. poppers (you. a. schwulenszene) , nitritverbindung die geschnüffelt wird um die sex. erregung zu intensivieren / stimulieren, urspr. ein kreislauf / herz. medikament
pps. park-platz-sex
pst. pre (also: vor). sex. talk. lockeres gespräch vor dem akt
pt. a) partnertausch be) petting (selten)
pv. a) partnervermittlung be) pornovideo.
q.
qu. quicki, spontane nummer, fälschlicherweise auch oft als schnellfick bezeichnet.
r.
ras. rasiert, the. h. rasiert i'm intimbereich
ro. read only, nur leser (. des forums)
rp. rückporto
rrr. rein-raus-runter: gegenteil von langem anspruchvollem sex.
rs. rollenspiele
rus. russische massage, ölmassage.
s.
safe. geschützt. geschlechtsverkehr nur mit kondom, evt. noch französisch natur ohne abspritzen
sb. snowballing, sperma von mund zu mund weitergeben
sc. swinger club
schl. schlank
sm. sado. maso
spzk. spermazungenküsse
ss. samen / sperma schlucken.
std. sexual transmitted deseases, sexuell übertragbare krankheiten
stud. i'm englischen: hengst / mann
stute. (willige) frau oder in der schwulenszene passiver mann
süd. samenüberdruck
sük. sexuell übertragbare krankheiten
sw. sandwich (1 frau. 2 männer)
sw. swallowing, schlucken
t.
ta. topact
tabulos. so ziemlich allem gegenüber aufgeschlossen, heisst aber nicht unbedingt "alles ohne kondom"
tf. tittenfick, spanisch
tg. taschengeld
thaim. thaimassage, massage des mannes mit oberkörper und vulva
toil. sex. toiletten sex, oberbegriff füare kv und ns.
tr. transe, trannie, transsexueller
ts. transsexuell
tt. titten-trimming, brustwarzen-massage, brustwarzen-kneifen.
tv. transvestit.
u.
uner. unerfahren
unk. unkosten (was aber schwachsinn ist, es gibt nur kosten, keine unkosten)
v.
ve. verbalerotik, in derber obszöner weise über sex sprechen, vgl. auch dt (dirty talk)
vg. vaginaler geschlechtsverkehr
vo. voyeur, voyeurismus, heimliches beobachten zwecks sexueller erregung
vorh. vorhanden.
w.
wl. wetlook, die kunst, angezogen wie ausgezogen zu wirken, zb. lack, leder, gummi, latex
ws. wassersport, [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118), urinspiele, pinkelspiele
wx. wichsen, masturbation, gegenseitig oder dabei einander zuschauen.
x.
xl. extra large, sehr gross
xxl. extra extra large, wirklich (sehr) groß (penis / brüste / bauch)
z.
za. zungenanal
zk / zks. zungenkuss / zungenküsse
SwingerLover
11-14-12, 13:59
Be. Black, schwarz
DP. Doppelpack, Sex mit zwei Frauen
PP. Poppers (you. A. Schwulenszene) , Nitritverbindung die geschnüffelt wird um die sex. Erregung zu intensivieren / stimulieren, urspr. Ein Kreislauf / Herz. MedikamentI disagree with those three!
Not that PP for Poppers might be wrong in the gay scene (I know nothing about that.) but I know PP only as short for ParkPlatz, ParkingPlace. As in PPS or PP6 for ParkPlatzSex.
DP is for Doppelte Penetration / Double Penetration. Regardless if it's two dicks, two dildos or two hands in one pussy or ass, it's always two men with only one woman. (Except in the gay scene of course.) I never encountered this "Doppelpack"-DP anywhere; if there was sex with two women it was always "two for the price of one" or FFM (= female, female, male; Frau, Frau, Mann) or WWM (weiblich, weiblich, männlich. Not to be confused with the use of FFM and WWM outside the sex abbreviations area, here it wiil mean "FrankFurt am Main" and "Wer Wird Millionäare?").
And I guess "Be." for black is either just a typo and you meant to write "Bl." or it is again one of the forums stupid spelling corrections (where there are no mistakes in the first place) and you only wrote the 2nd letter of the alphabet with a dot behind it and the forum changed it into "be" the way it changes the 3rd letter into "see" and the 4th into "the" and the 21st into "you". Not to mention the little word consisting of an I and an M which is changed into "I'm". Like "Sex I'm Barraum". And just at the end of the last paragraph, it turned the 18th letter (after the "ä") into an "are". If I were to explain the abbreviation for PostLeitZahl (= ZIP-code) , the forum would turn it into "please". Is there no way to stop those senseless spelling dis-corrections?
All in all, your list took up a lot of space with very little text; it might have been better to put the abbreviations in one single line (and therefore paragraph) for each letter. It was also not necessary to add the english abbreviations, since there's a list of those provided by the forum already. And how all the non-german-speakers will handle all the german explanations with no translation is another question. On the other hand, the list explains a lot of common stuff like BBB (beard, belly, glasses=Brille) that might not be on the Traummaennlein list, and there was even some stuff on it I didn't know yet myself. (Oops, BBB IS on the Traummaennlein-list, but "Bld." or "bl." for "blonde" for instance is not.) The problem is that as soon as this list gets buried under following reports, the questions might start again. That's where the complexity of the list and all the wasted space might become helpful: It will be easier to find it again!
Finally, to get the Traummaennlein link back up again: www.traummaennlein.com/abkuerzungen.htm
Banana Boi
11-30-12, 00:42
I was wondering if dashboard cameras are legal in Europe (specifically Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, and Switzerland).
SwingerLover
12-01-12, 13:09
I was wondering if dashboard cameras are legal in Europe (specifically Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, and Switzerland).You may not film any people or take their picture without their concent in Germany. As far as filming only the landscape I don't know. But if some people should get caught on film, you would have to get their concent first.
Expresso Jim
01-14-13, 01:34
I think my memory is fading. Part of the aging process I guess. But I can't remember the popular German website used by girls all over German to post their ads, As I recall, the ads categories were set up by state / laender. I thought it was escorts. De or escortgirls. De, but I can't remember for sure. Any help would be appreciated. Also, whatever happened to yl69. De? Thanks,
Hanoveranian
01-14-13, 10:28
I think my memory is fading. Part of the aging process I guess. But I can't remember the popular German website used by girls all over German to post their ads, As I recall, the ads categories were set up by state / laender. I thought it was escorts. De or escortgirls. De, but I can't remember for sure. Any help would be appreciated. Also, whatever happened to yl69. De? Thanks,I havn't found something with escorts, but maybe try this one:
http://www.ladies.de/Home
It is sorted by federal states and even cities.
And it got several sub sides with direct link to regions of cities such as www.niedersachsenladies.de, www. Hannoverladies. De.
There is also a direct access to a page with ladies from Asia: www.asialadies.de
Happy searching!
SwingerLover
01-14-13, 12:53
www.kontakt24.de (Searches by city or ZIP.)
www.6relax.de (Searches by regions.)
www.kaufmich.com (Here you have to register for free in order to search.)
Advertising sites: www.fickanzeigen.net www.fickreklame.com
www.ladies.de Is also useful and easy to use.
I also like http://www.1night-kontakt.de/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.cgi
Mongers,
What do you know of this place in Cologne. They claim teenage girls (18+).
Whats the line up like?
How many girls?
Cheers.
Phillip
SwingerLover
01-22-13, 14:09
I just put a report into the Berlin thread (since it's come up there) which might be of general interest. It's about how to quote only part of a post here on ISG, also about how to get an URL to work properly when it's put in only after editing an already uploaded report. If interested, look here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1376715&viewfull=1#post1376715
I am from North America and pretty much have USA & Canadian bra sizes memorized. But, when I travel to Europe, I see ads in which the girls list their bra size as something like "75B". I have no idea what that means. I suspect I'm not alone among guys who travel both ways. I found a website that has an easy-to-read table. It turns out there are lots of different bra and cup sizes around the world.
The chart is here: http://www.breasttalk.co.uk/size_charts.aspx
Height and weight comparison are easy:
1KG = 2. 2 pounds (So, a lady who says she weighs 55 kilos weighs 121 pounds.)
1CM = 2. 54 inches (So, a lady claiming to be 180cm tall is about 71 inches tall or 5 ft 11 inches)
Hope this helps!
I have noticed during the many months that I have been a member of this forum that some of the more accomplished writers on here have mentioned that they have spent a significant amount of time mongering in other countries for example Thailand and the Philippines. They might say 'I have just come back from a 3 week tour of Thailand and I spent a x load amount of money so can't go to Germany for a while'.
I am quite interested in finding out more information on the scene in other countries however if I look through the threads of some of these countries, I find that trip reports from the chief writers on here who may also have visited these countries do not feature.
I was just wondering whether these board members have made a conscious decision not to talk about these other countries or find it more interesting to talk about the mongering scene in Germany instead.
There definitely seems to be a lot more 'flaming' of other posters in these other country threads than in the Germany threads so that might be the reason?
Myrrh,
I'd think it's much easier to discuss in Germany's threads because in Germany the sex offer is clear, well structured, with names, addresses, price lists, photos, etc. About internet sites, clubs, brothels, FKKs, RLDs, etc. Everything is legal and easily available, and you may discuss ages about going to the same club someone else has been. If you make a rough count, you'll notice that the majority of members, especially those having hundreds or thousands of posts in Germany's threads, didn't make those numbers with actual reports of sex, but mostly with comments, questions, answers, etc. I myself wrote many posts in Germany's threads, but only 4 were actually about P4P "events", the rest are mostly for infos from those who have already been somewhere and know about. I've been in the Philippines many years ago, I'm not updated nor I read those threads, but down there the offer is so overwhelming and not "structured" like in Germany that probably would be of little help trying to describe where you have been (you probably won't be able to say something like "in Artemis", you could have been anywhere even only on the road) , with what girl (how would you track her back, also to westerners' eyes more or less they look very similar, no blondes, no blu-eyed, etc.) , for how much (prices are not necessarily listed on a menu) , for how long, etc, even though there are roughly set prices and performances. Hope I've been clear enough
I'd think it's much easier to discuss in Germany's threads because in Germany the sex offer is clear, well structured, with names, addresses, price lists, photos, etc. About internet sites, clubs, brothels, FKKs, RLDs, etc. Everything is legal and easily available, and you may discuss ages about going to the same club someone else has been.
I've been in the Philippines many years ago, I'm not updated nor I read those threads, but down there the offer is so overwhelming and not "structured" like in Germany that probably would be of little help trying to describe where you have been (you probably won't be able to say something like "in Artemis", you could have been anywhere even only on the road) , with what girl (how would you track her back, also to westerners' eyes more or less they look very similar, no blondes, no blu-eyed, etc.) , for how much (prices are not necessarily listed on a menu) , for how long, etc, even though there are roughly set prices and performances.Another aspect might be that there are probably dozens of other forums providing information about the scene in Thailand, Philippines, Brazil, etc but outside of the the ones written in German there are very few which provide information about the German scene so comprehensively as this forum.
If you have a trip report to write about Germany then this is by far and away the best forum that there is for it. You can be sure that your best piece of work appears on the best forum.
However if you write about your experiences in the Thailand or Philippines then there are at least half a dozen forums which covers this just as well. Which one do you choose?
But I still think my original point stands that senior writers on here know they can write their reports in a space which will be free from the senseless derogatory comments that seem to clutter some other forums.
SwingerLover
03-30-13, 17:05
But I still think my original point stands that senior writers on here know they can write their reports in a space which will be free from the senseless derogatory comments that seem to clutter some other forums.You're absolutely right. I ran screaming from Poppen.de because of the bullshit comments on the forum, as well as the tons of fakes that were on there. Aside from this little stray, I wrote, read, write and read exclusively on ISG.
SwingerLover
03-30-13, 17:09
Since the question about what a "Luder" is has popped up in 3 different threads lately, here's the answer as a General Info:
According to www.leo.org "Luder" translates as "hussy" or "minx" (a cunning or coquettish girl) and also as "biatch" in offensive Amarican slang. The original meaning of the term seems to be "bait", as in hunting animals, in a sense of carrion / bugger / sod.
So a Spermaluder would be a "Cumbitch" (as in Jessy Cumbitch) and an AO-Luder a Bareback-hussy or a BarebackSlut (as it says in capitol letters on one on Creampie-Ronja's T-Shirts).
Since the question about what a "Luder" is has popped up in 3 different threads lately, here's the answer as a General Info:
According to.
www.leo.org
"Luder" translates as "hussy" or "minx" (a cunning or coquettish girl) and also as "biatch" in offensive Amarican slang. The original meaning of the term seems to be "bait", as in hunting animals, in a sense of carrion / bugger / sod.
So a Spermaluder would be a "Cumbitch" (as in Jessy Cumbitch) and an AO-Luder a Bareback-hussy or a BarebackSlut (as it says in capitol letters on one on Creampie-Ronja's T-Shirts).SL, usually just understood as 'bitchh'.
For example, 'geiles Luder' would translate as 'horny bitchh' to most.
'Slutt' is more likely to be parlayed as 'Schlampe', I believe...
I am from North America and pretty much have USA & Canadian bra sizes memorized. But, when I travel to Europe, I see ads in which the girls list their bra size as something like "75B". I have no idea what that means. I suspect I'm not alone among guys who travel both ways. I found a website that has an easy-to-read table. It turns out there are lots of different bra and cup sizes around the world.
The European one (used in Germany) is pretty straightforward. The number is the circumference in centimetres BELOW the breasts. (In the US, a 36-inch bust refers to the circumference INCLUDING the breasts.) AA means that the circumference WITH the breast is 11 cm more, A 13, B 15 etc. Thus 75B is 75 cm below the breasts. 90 (about 36 inches) including them. My wife has 85G.
SwingerLover
04-06-13, 16:05
SL, usually just understood as 'bitchh'.
For example, 'geiles Luder' would translate as 'horny bitchh' to most.
'Slutt' is more likely to be parlayed as 'Schlampe', I believe.Yes, you're right. GeilesLuder = hornyBitch, or as Leo translated it in American slang: biatch. I was also getting more into the literal translation. But your understanding is correct. And there are overlaps with the literal translations. I too would translateSlut as Schlampe. But Leo gives us biatch andSlut as translation for Schlampe, translates biatch andBitch as Luder, Nutte and Schlampe, and gives us Nutte and Schlampe as translation forSlut. So terms are somewhat interchangeable. Only whenBitch is used in the sense of "bitching about something" it definitely translates as "Zicke". Which zoological translates as "nanny goat" whereas aBitch would be a female dog. So different languages, different types of animals to describe the same thing. And if a woman is "zickig" then it means she's bitchy or catty.
And if a woman is "zickig" then it means she's bitchy or catty.Quite often, in my experience, SL!
Changing money at the Frankfurt airport was a rip. .14 spread either side of the actual exchange rate to buy or sell. I was told the banks are worse although I didn't check that directly myself. Best to bring Euros to Europe I think rather than getting them here.
SwingerLover
04-28-13, 16:03
There is quite a number of legal holidays (Gesetzlicher Feiertag) in Germany in May. No idea if or how this will affect clubs and parties and P4P, but one should keep the holiday-situation in mind:
WED 1st: Labour Day. Legal holiday in Germany.
THU 9th: Ascension Day. Legal holiday in Germany.
MON 20th: Whit Monday. Legal holiday in Germany.
THU 30th: Feast of Corpus Christi. Legal holiday in the southern part of Germany.
All the German holidays during the year 2013 can be found here: http://www.schnelle-online.info/Feiertage/Feiertage-2013.html
www.ladies.de
Is also useful and easy to use.
I also like.
http://www.1night-kontakt.de/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.cgiHello,
I am new to Germany and found this website "ladies. De" and it shows a few houses in my area where it seems like a red light district concealed in an apartment building. What are the rules here? If I go to the building, ring inside, then walk door to door looking for the girl I saw online or whoever is available? Tried to search for a beginners guide here but haven't found anything.
I'm off to Berlin next week for 4 days. I have an unlocked samsung Galaxy s3.
What is currently the best DATA sim that will give me 200mb or so per day, or maybe 1 gb total?
Where can I buy it?
How much?
Easy registration?
I like having my phone online when I'm out and about. Yes I have wifi in the hotel but I want to be constantly connected online when I'm out and about, and I hate paying roaming charges.
Yes I know its been asked before but these things change and I would like the latest info.
Thanks WK.
BadinSweet
05-23-13, 21:26
you need 200mb per day? that's a very heavy usage (6gb per month). you can buy the sim at most phone shops. i got mine from a store around fra hbf. it's from blauworld company. the sim came with 10e credit and i added some data plan at the time. 9.99e. the store charged me 30e. (so 10e extra). it has different type of data plan i. e.
100mb. 5e / 30 days.
250mb. 7.9e / 30 days.
750mb. 9.9e / 30 days.
if you reached the limit, the speed change from 3g to gprs. you can't buy it online since it needs germany address. i guess that's when the phone store charge the overhead. see more info from their site:
http://www.blauworld.de/?locale=en
You need 200MB per day? That's a very heavy usage (6GB per month). You can buy the SIM at most phone shops. I got mine from a store around FRA Hbf. It's from Blauworld company. The SIM came with 10E credit and I added some data plan at the time. 9.99E. The store charged me 30E. (so 10E extra). It has different type of data plan I. E.Thanks for your reply there man.
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