Berlin

[Anglital]

While in Berlin shortly, I might try out La Folie FKK as it's central. Would try Artemis but I won't have a car.

Anyway, I might fancy a quickie down an alley and I'm wondering if there's a map or list of the zone/s for street walkers?

Cheers

[Blue Swede]

While in Berlin shortly, I might try out La Folie FKK as it's central. Would try Artemis but I won't have a car.

Anyway, I might fancy a quickie down an alley and I'm wondering if there's a map or list of the zone/s for street walkers?

Cheers

La Folie is more far away from the S-bahn than Artemis, so I would recommend going those extra 2 or 3 train stops to Westkreutz. From there it is a 3 minute walk to Artemis.

I don't want to discourage you to go to La Folie, but don't rule out Artemis based on availability.

Blue

[Lookoflove7]

Being in Berlin for 5 days, I wanted to experience the bordello. Went to the famous one, Kamilla Dee. Very easy to find, need to walk a little while from the closest tube station. Very confidential, from the outside of the building, you cannot notice anything.

Ring and went upstairs. Welcome by a lady who introduce me immediately into asking me if I had a booking and if it was the first time. No and yes. “I bring you the girls so”. Very nice and clean room. But south exposed window, no AC, only fan, on that big sunny day in Berlin : it was too hot in the room. Moreover, non of the 6 available this late afternoon where my type. Maybe one could have done good sex, Cleo (?) but I wasn’t 100% excited with her body. Excuse myself with the lady and get out.

I then went to Royal who is only 20mn walk from KD.

Same impression and same welcome at Royal. But the room are really gorgeous !!! Lot of space, very nice furniture. Big bed. Introduced me one by one the girl. I was interested by two girls. I choose the one with the biggest tits…

Ivetta (?) from Germany. Very nice face. Average size. Huge tits, all natural. 25 years old. Don’t speak English which made our conversation very funny. She spoke to me in German as if I understood her. Made me laugh several time. Very soft (cover) blowjob. Mirror everywhere, I couldn’t wait more to fuck her. I made it hard for her. She has such a face when you fuck her: between joy and pain. Te more she was screaming, the more I penetrated her harder.

Had time to rest and continue to chat without understanding each other. She is very girlfriend.

Globally, it was a funny bordello experience. But if going back to Berlin, FKK Artemis would have my preference.

[Bobo.fr]

La Folie is more far away from the S-bahn than Artemis, ....
Are you sure ?
Do you really mean this club
http://www.la-folie.de/index.php?section=anfahrt&l=de

I think it's close to S-bahn station "Charlottenburg".

Apparently , there is no sauna in this club ( I don't see any photos of sauna on its web site)

[Blue Swede]

Are you sure ?
Do you really mean this club
http://www.la-folie.de/index.php?section=anfahrt&l=de

I think it's close to S-bahn station "Charlottenburg".

Apparently , there is no sauna in this club ( I don't see any photos of sauna on its web site)

Ok, maybe not FAR away in comparison, I just measured the two distances on Google Earth and to La Folie is was about 400 m from Charlottenburg, while the distance from Westcreutz exit to Artemis is 350 m. In other words, no significant difference.

I would go to Artemis as I first choice and add La Folie for the research if you fancy. Compared, La Folie is a hole in the wall! This, I understand, don't rule out the possibility of a nice stay there.

Blue

[Tommyh80]

I don't know about La Folie, but I had the plan to go there. Went to Artemis yesterday, and had a GREAT time. Since people say it cannot get any better than Artemis, La Folie is not on the "todo-list" anymore.

Taxi from a hotel close to Charlie Checkpoint was only around 20 euro. I came there early, around 15:00. Walked around and talked to some girls, but was a little bit disappointed by the looks. Tried to eat but the food was very simple.

After a an hour or so, I noticed a very beautiful african girl. I talked to her, and agreed on sex and CIM. I had a GREAT session which lasted for about 30 minutes. 60 +50 euro.

The second girl was from the dominican republic, and was very beautiful, but didn't have the skills compared to the first girl.

The third girl was an asian girl originally from Bankok, but lived most of her life in Germany. She gave a very good session. Compared to most thai-girls, she did at good blowjob.

The 4th session was a threesome with 2 beautiful german girls, 21 and 24 years old. Very beautiful and sexy.

The 5th session was with a girl from romania? Tall girl and beautiful face. Today's worst blowjob.

The 6th session was with a german girl, blonde and beautiful. A little bit chubby, but a good fuck.

Damage: 600 euro. I finished 6 times, and didn't even use viagra or cialis. My cock is red now, but going back to Artemis tonight :-D

[Bobo.fr]

... Maybe one could have done good sex, Cleo (?) but I wasn’t 100% excited with her body.
....

Do you mean Klio ?
http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/klio-e.htm

[Angus Magee]

While in Berlin shortly, I might try out La Folie FKK as it's central. Would try Artemis but I won't have a car.

Anyway, I might fancy a quickie down an alley and I'm wondering if there's a map or list of the zone/s for street walkers?

Cheers

There is at least one, maybe two, posts in the thread somewhere that details this info. You will have to do your own search though. If you like the sleazier side of sex you might also like the sex kino experience. There are many kinos all over Berlin. Have a look at my Berlin Guide. A bit out of date but still relevant.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48

Artemis & La Folie are very different clubs. Artemis is over all better and no harder to get to by transit as is noted below. It is more expensive though. And you would want (at least IMO) to spend some time there to get the money's worth of the entry fee.

La Folie is much cheaper but the girls do tend to be not quite so spectacular. It is always possible to find a part time gem at La Folie, but this usually means repeated visits and becoming a bit regular. Chances are, as a first time visitor, you will be hit on by the more pro ladies who work daily.

AM

PS-Please do not forget to post.

[Angus Magee]

Damage: 600 euro. I finished 6 times, and didn't even use viagra or cialis. My cock is red now, but going back to Artemis tonight :-D

Hats off to Tommy. Respect! 6 times in a day and finished 6 times. I thought I did well with 5 times finishing 4.

But that last shot Tommy, it must have been more a dribble ;)

AM

[Finsbury]

Thursday July 8th:

First timer for this sort of party, I'd been with escorts before, but nothing like this. Was ready to try a gangbang. www.Berlinintim.de has all the info you need if you are in town and looking. Seems like there are 3-4 GB per day there.

Read for a while and looked around for best quality and value and decided on Insomnia Wednesday gang bang. Got there around 14:30 (started at 14) and was supposed to go until 22:00 or 0000 I forget which. But all day basically. I was a bit nervous of course. Entrance is easy to find off the Ubahn stop (literally a few meters away). Directions on their website.

Got in and paid the 90euros, then undressed right there. I didn't know you could keep your underwear so I was standing there naked and went upstairs only to find everyone wearing underwear. I got a black towel from behind the bar and wore that all day. As I've previously read, they keep all you stuff at the clothes check downstairs. I left my passport, wallet, phone etc in my jeans pocket and they were all intact when I left so I guess its to be trusted. I did see a guy with a very small fanny pack he carried with him and there were a few phones behind the bar. They don't check ID. So if you want, you can bring a pretty minimal amount of stuff (cash only potentially) if your worried.

Anyways, you have to remember your ticket number because you pass it to the bar lady to hold. Oh, and get a towel and keep it with you or stash it because there aren't any in the showers.

Having never been to a place like this I wasn't sure of the etiquitte and what not. So I sat at the bar and drank a sprite and just kind of watched. Proabably 10 guys hanging out, 1 couple fucking in the middle stage thing and 3 chicks at the bar not talking to anyone. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to make a move or something and I don't speak a lick of German. So I started touching one of the girls shoulders and she said it was OK, then I started rubbing her thigh and she got up and walked to the other side of the room. Sucks because she was one of the more attractive ones and I think I creeped her out. Yes, me, 31yo fairly in shape who paid for the privelage of being here for the purpose of touching and banging girls managed to creep out the working girl. So I just waited longer.

Breakdown of the girls:

#1 older MILFish (40?) chick with dark hair, a bit of sag in the breasts, but large none the less. Overall a 6 I'd say, but doable. Loud moaner/screamer and enjoyed what she was doing. Black tight dress thing she wore

#2 very skinny small petite blond in school girl outfit. Probably weighed like 90lbs. Sexy though, but almost too small. 7 I'd say

#3 average sexy tallish girl with short bleached spiky hair. She hung out with #2 all day and they were kind of a team I guess. Ass a little bit bigger than the others, but nice none the less. 7 I'd say

#4 cute short brunette haired, tanned, sexy thing with smallish breasts and a nice ass. Wore a little tube top and skirt that she pulled down and up respectively when she fucked. Small tatoos. Sexy and into it. 8

#5 Tall, sexy pretty face, sexy outfit, nice firm tits, slightly thick in the thighs, but in a good way. 8, maybe 9. This is the one I creeped out unfortunately.

#6 asian/hispanic/eastern european looking, dark haired, glasses girl. Petite, lower back tatoo, sexy, confident. 8

Overall a good line up.

Finally, #4 took a guy from the bar she had been talking to and brought him down on the center stage/fck area (4 nice soft vinyl bed things) and laid him on his back and gave BBBJ. Then another guy mounted her from behind. I took this as a sign it was Ok to play. I got under and was sucking on her tits while on my back. She was in doggie with 1 guy and blowing the other. Fun times. Both guys finished and left so I immediately put on a condom and started in doggie real slow. She was mad it was so slow so I fucked her harder and came right away (had taken a cialis). Other guys took my place after that.

After the first one was out of the way, I was a bit more settled in. Went for a shower. I just wore the towel all day as my outfit and threw it on the floor when banging.

Went upstairs on the loft that overlooked the main area and had great food. Pork roast, sides, free beer (that kills my erections so I skipped). Had a plate of food and bread and dessert as there still wasn't a lot of action going on. Just watched #1 keep going with some guy dressed in a fishnet outfit.

More guys started coming in so finally girls 2 and 3 got down there and were going at it. Both were being taken from behind so I slid in front and they shared my cock (although covered was required by these girls). When 2 was done, I mounted her from behind and was close to cumming, but didn't finish. I opted to quit as she seeemd to be not wanting me to go all the way in like it was hurting her a bit.

Went back upstairs and watched for a while. Then 6 came out and just laid down and about 10 guys gathered around to take turns. They all started banging her and most were quick because for a lot of them it was the first of the day. I was about 6th in line and was also pretty quick. This was mostly missionary style, but doggie sometimes. She really liked the sex. After she was walking around naked for a while and smoking a cigarette. Very sexy. So things were going pretty good, then they died down a bit and the girls went back to sitting at the bar doing nothing. I figured they needed a break so thats OK. I ate more food because it was so good. Then I started to get a bit frustrated because it was like an hour or something with only 1 girl playing.

Back up a minute, 5 (the hot one) wasn't really partaking like the rest. She would fuck 1 guy and make out with him, then get up and leave. Then she would go with the same guy to the back room for a 3some, then come back and sit. Its like she was being picky. I thought she was maybe a wife or something, but later in the day I could tell she wasn't. I made it my goal to bang this girl later. I was just pissed you couldn't walk up to the girls and start something whenever you want. But you had to sort of wait until they were ready and this girl was being picky with who she banged.

So, after a bit of a pause in the action again, eventually everything started in full swing again. Now there were 3 girls on the main area, and 1 on each of the side areas downstairs and there were some swingers in the private rooms.

I went on to bang #3 but didn't cum, then #4 gave me a BBBJ, then nice, slow cowgirl while other guys rubbed her ass. I was relaxing on the side area later and #6 came over, laid down and just spread her legs so I did her again to completion.

I was contimplating calling it a day but figured it wouldn't hurt to hang out so I went upstairs, laid down, took a nap and ate some more dessert. Went to check on the action and now there were like 6 more girls downstairs. The swingers had started to show up. I didn't speak the language, so was hard to get in with them. They mostly would go off with a guy or two into a more private area so not every dude in there would bang them. But, 1 sexy chick was out in the middle and after fondling her nice breasts while waiting for a couple of guys to finish, I took my turn on top of her and finished again fairly quickly. Hubby was making out with her during this. This girl was probably a 7 as well. Sexy but slightly thicker thighs.

Of the swinger chicks, they were rated 9, 7, 6, 2, 8, and 5 I'd say. Would have loved to hook up with the 9, but she was never just in the middle for the taking. 1 of the swinger couples weren't really sharring, just there more to be watched I guess but that was fine.

At this point it was 20:00, I had been there 5. 5 hours, banged 5 girls a total of 7 times with 5 cums. Pretty impressed for myself as I don't think I had ever had that much sex at one time before. I felt comfortable and had a good time. I would have loved to stick around and see of the swinger chicks would keep putting out but I was spent and had to try and meet up with some people for drinks. I never gid get to bang #5 but I did she that she was spreading herself around a bit more later in the day. Still, seemed a bit particular in who she let bang her compared to the other girls.

Girls do BBBJ on an individual girl basis. But with the number of BJ they are doing and the fact that they are going from one cock to another right away I would almost say use a condom. Oh, and not a single girl there had pubic hair.

The whole time they had a DJ playing music and a guy (seemed like the owner type person) walking around making sure everything was spotlessly clean and the food was full, etc. They had porn playing on a giant projector the whole time as well (seemed like stuff they had filmed there).

Overall a great experience, especially for 90euro.

I would recommend it to anyone in town looking for this sort of action. They have different theme days but Thursday is the kinky gang bang that I went to.

[Andypandara]

First timer for this sort of party, I'd been with escorts before, but nothing like this. Was ready to try a gangbang. www.Berlinintim.de has all the info you need if you are in town and looking. Seems like there are 3-4 GB per day there.Nice report Finsbury, you are just a bit ahead of me on the curve, I will be heading over to GDR in October looking for some of the same type of experiences.

Thanks for giving me a better idea of what to look forward to!

[Angus Magee]

thursday july 8th:

first timer for this sort of party, i'd been with escorts before, but nothing like this. was ready to try a gangbang. www.berlinintim.de has all the info you need if you are in town and looking. seems like there are 3-4 gb per day there.thanks for the report. yes, as i understand it berlin is a gb mecca of sorts. lots here even small private ones advertised in various local web based ad sites. myself i have never been tempted, though if i were i think i would head on over to royal on the first tuesday of the month where they do a gb for 80€ per hour. but yours does sound a better deal even if it does sound more like a flat rate/swingers club than a true gb.


they don't check id. so if you want, you can bring a pretty minimal amount of stuff (cash only potentially) if your worried.just a word of caution-in germany carrying personal id is mandatory. that is the police have the right to stop and ask you to identify yourself at anytime. no id can mean a hassel and is technically illegal.

but in my 6 years here it certainly has never happened to me and for the first 4 years i was here i never carried id. it just never occurred to me and coming from n. america i assumed that, if stopped, it was no big deal.

but when visiting a club it is always wise to carry id. the clubs, though legal, do get raided every once in a while. it is a rare thing (never been in a club raid myself) but can happen. the police are interested in the girls more than the patrons as the raid is to look for illegals and **** girls-not to bust mongers as what you are doing is not against the law. but if you can not produce id the police will generally detain you and eventually escort you to your hotel to get the id. so what is a routine thing could turn into a long wait and a bit of embarrassment at the hotel as the cops escort you in.

it is just something to keep in mind. i actually carry a photo copy of my passport day by day as it is too risky to lose the real thing. friends have told me that this would satisfy most every police man unless i was sort of up to no good or perhaps a traffic stop-and i do not drive so.

but when i visit artemis i always try to remember my passport and stick it in my cash locker.

again-thanks for the report of an under reported area in the forum. i will post to the rofd thread.

am

ps-you might want to link this to the partytreff thread.maybe the one titled other partytreffs? as i say this place sounds cross between a swingers club (i understood that there were some swinger couples there?) and a flat rate. anyway-there could be some interest over there.

[Alex1966]

Ok, spending more than a week in berlin, full of business, I had my funny times as well, thanks for the info shared here.

My first visit was to euphorie massagen, on a afternoon time. Easy to find, no problems, 3 girls were available and the rooms were quite ok. I took the kamilla, nice body, full natural for a 60 mins naturist massage.

After 20 mins or so, she said sex would be possible for an extra 40 euro. The downside was, you have to get up from the bed, use your own oily hands to take the money from your wallet. I just didn't like this way. Her sex was ok, several positions, talked a little, further massage and another HJ.

All in all, it's ok but noit necessary to repeat.

Another afternoon, it was ekstase massage saloon. Be aware: there are two streets in berlin, one is ebertst. And the other one is ebertyst. What a difference a letter makes! About 6-7 km! So if you go, make sure it's the right one. Anyway arrived on scene, as described by the web site, you go upstairs using the left block and you see the door immediately. I took elena, who probably is the owner as well. Great body, very friendly, very good massage. I would rate the experience 8/10. No sex, but good DATY. I enjoyed her company, if I go again I might choose her. I was a happy man leaving the place.

Baaad experience: King George. Just wanted to try the flat rate thing, what a mistake. My golden rule in mongering: do it less but with the best! Everything was bad with kg. Some dangerous looking man at the front gate, another body guard at the payment point. There were about 5-6 girls inside (around midnight. Midweek), nearly all of the were NOT doable. I choose one rather better looking girl, supposedly from brasil. Very bad rooms, very mechanical sex. Just lay down, undress from the bikini, open legs, finish and go. In fact it was so bad, I left the place after 10 mins. Won't repeat again.

Last good experience: hauptstadt escort (http://www.Hauptstadt-escort. De/). Called in the afternoon, asked for patricia, was not available so opted for lisa. The guy warned me that she is 33 (actually 36) but nevertheless I had no time to choose someone else. She arrived 20 mins late, but was lovely all in all. Didn't say no to nothing, but I was not very demanding as well. Started BBBJ (I didn't ask), than went on with covered sex (is a must). After some time gave me a long BBBJ, finishing with HJ. Very satisfied with everything. Next time I am in berlin, will choose this agency again, although they are more expensive than the others (150€ for one hour). But remember my golden rule!

That's it folks, for 10 days in berlin. I am just about to leave this nice city.

Be safe,

Alex

[Angus Magee]

That's it folks, for 10 days in berlin. I am just about to leave this nice city.

Be safe,

Alex


Thanks Alex for the report. I posted to RofD as it contains some very relevant info. I was particularly interested in the sex possibilities at Euphoria. The website does sort of suggest that more is on offer but you never know. A first hand report is useful.

And I was a bit surprised by the positive review of hauptstadt escorts. I once used there in call location and said never again. Guess you never know with these places. I also attach a fixed link to the hauptstadt site.

http://www.hauptstadt-escort.de/


AM

[Alex1966]

Thanks Alex for the report. I posted to RofD as it contains some very relevant info. I was particularly interested in the sex possibilities at Euphoria. The website does sort of suggest that more is on offer but you never know. A first hand report is useful.

And I was a bit surprised by the positive review of hauptstadt escorts. I once used there in call location and said never again. Guess you never know with these places. I also attach a fixed link to the hauptstadt site.

http://www.hauptstadt-escort.de/

AMAnd to my surprise, there were some good reports about KG? I think different days and different moods make a real difference in the expereience. Especially with the working women, their moods cont be expected to be up up up everyday.

Alex

[Mcarthur]

I was in Berlin last weekend and try to kill the night time with some entertainmet, in fact I'm not a soccer fan anyway. Stay at radisson in mitte and after all I called My escort berlin. Friendly guy at the line and after I told him what I want quickly somebody was knocking the door. Julia_2, very pretty girl, and for my opinion better than the Pics at the webside.

After some conversation, we come to the point what she came for. Nice GFE, deep kissing and a good service. Very clean lady (after a bad experience in Dubai, that the smell from upstairs was nearly killing me), I enjoyed the short hour. Price(90euro) was ok and I gave her a tip of $20 for the good service. She was asking if I want to extend, but I denied, because I didn't sleep the whole week and my flight was early in the morning. Pretty sure, if I have the time to go back to berlin I will call the agency again.

http://www.Myescortberlin.com

Good hunting and take care out there.

[Cool Morris]

Hi Guys

I will be going to Berlin in September/October time frame. I am really looking for Turkish chicks.

Can you recommend any websites or particular places that are exclusively Turkish chicks or have a high number. Also, any websites where we can search by nationality?

After Turkish my favorite is Greek. Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers

[Bearsk]

There is plenty of Turkish talent:

http://www.Myescortberlin.com/girl/Cermin.html
http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/bordelle/aura.html

At Artemis: Samira (small spinner) and friend Berna. There are several others.

Greek:
http://www.Myescortberlin.com/girl/Julia_2.html


Hi Guys

I will be going to Berlin in September/October time frame. I am really looking for Turkish chicks.

Can you recommend any websites or particular places that are exclusively Turkish chicks or have a high number. Also, any websites where we can search by nationality?

After Turkish my favorite is Greek. Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers

[Angus Magee]

There is plenty of Turkish talent:

True that. In Berlin you just have to look. There are often Turkish girls who work the smaller Neuköln brothels.

For instance: http://www.erotische-modelle.de/siebel.html

And you might find one here: http://www.club-elfen.de/index.php

Though often Turkish girls get mixed up with the more common Bulgarian and Romanian girls.Though be warned, Club Elfen is truly one of the slaziest, nastiest Berlin brothels.

Sometimes Turkish girls do not advertise themselves as Turkish. I am not sure why, if they try to hide it or more likely, make themselves more exotic.
i.e. two girls I have visited at Liberty were Turkish, yet bot advertised as Oriental.I always think of Oriental and being from the far east. In fact a Turkey is really the start of the Orient and so this label.

One of the Liberty girls (Jenny) is no longer there. Vivien still works but is very, very part time. There is a report of Vivien in the forum by myself.

http://www.libertyberlin.de/vivien.html

AM

[Angus Magee]

Just a short note-I have to say i do not like this new very short edit time allowed here on the forum. I used to have 8 hrs or so to edit & correct small mistakes in my posts. Now it seems less than an hour and the edit button disappears. I have to wonder why this is?

But in the end i guess I will have to read & proof my posts before pressing send in the future. Small typos are not a big deal but the perfectionist in me wants my posts to be without typos.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Here is a Greek girl if her press is to be believed. Personally I think she could also be Bulgarian...

http://www.haushotelbesuche.de/girl/Natja.html

She is also shown on other sites (I have no idea of the connection between the various cheap escort services in Berlin but it seems they are all connected, maybe run by the same people, as the girls often appear on several different sites) and is available at Kino 3 in Kreuzberg.

http://www.kino-friesen3.de/nadja.html

I do seem to remember a report or two on her in the German forums and I also remember the reports were not great. But her breasts do look spectacular, if probably enhanced.

If you go to Artemis look for Rosie. She is actually Bulgarian but insists that she is Greek and I believe she has at least one Greek parent and has lived there, speaking the language fluently. And to top it off she is a nice girl who gives a dynamite session.

[Bearsk]

I am prone the tipogrfical errors more than you but would alsoappreciate lttle more time to corect things.


Just a short note-I have to say i do not like this new very short edit time allowed here on the forum. I used to have 8 hrs or so to edit & correct small mistakes in my posts. Now it seems less than an hour and the edit button disappears. I have to wonder why this is?

But in the end i guess I will have to read & proof my posts before pressing send in the future. Small typos are not a big deal but the perfectionist in me wants my posts to be without typos.

AM

[Bearsk]

Intriguing BoBos.
Can you remind or link in something about Kino 3 and how that works.


Here is a Greek girl if her press is to be believed. Personally I think she could also be Bulgarian...

http://www.haushotelbesuche.de/girl/Natja.html

She is also shown on other sites (I have no idea of the connection between the various cheap escort services in Berlin but it seems they are all connected, maybe run by the same people, as the girls often appear on several different sites) and is available at Kino 3 in Kreuzberg.

http://www.kino-friesen3.de/nadja.html

I do seem to remember a report or two on her in the German forums and I also remember the reports were not great. But her breasts do look spectacular, if probably enhanced.

If you go to Artemis look for Rosie. She is actually Bulgarian but insists that she is Greek and I believe she has at least one Greek parent and has lived there, speaking the language fluently. And to top it off she is a nice girl who gives a dynamite session.

[GandJim]

Just a short note-I have to say i do not like this new very short edit time allowed here on the forum.
I guess that while some like you only correct typos, others completely change the contents and nature of their posts and make moderation of the forum harder, forcing moderators to read back more posts each time and re-read posts he has already been through before.

Jim

[Cool Morris]

Thanks guys, Turkish chicks are hot. I guess there is no all Turkish Kinos or Brothels. There are millions of Turks I thought there would be more.

[Angus Magee]

Thanks guys, Turkish chicks are hot. I guess there is no all Turkish Kinos or Brothels. There are millions of Turks I thought there would be more.

Yes I have to agree. I often admire their slightly slutty sense of style on the street. But as far as I know there is no exclusively Turkish kino or brothel. But then there is no kino or brothel dedicated to any other single ethnic group/nationality either. Except of course Thai massage and some Kino are also pretty heavy on the Thai girls.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Intriguing BoBos.
Can you remind or link in something about Kino 3 and how that works.


Well a Kino is really just a variation on a brothel with a public option. You pay to get in (usually 5 or 6 €) and sit in a small kino with high backed booths. The girls hang out and will come by to ask if you want company. if yes they will sit and and offer sexual services.You can have a hj, bj and probably even fs in the kino. Though most kinos are not really set up for the public fs option. You would have to do it more or less sitting up or along a thin bench. There are also rooms in the back where you can go. The prices are relatively cheap (25-30 for cbj-50 for fs in a room) but once you figure in the entry fee, not that much cheaper than a bordello like Liberty. For me it was just, for a while, a thrill to be able to make a late night visit to a local place and satisfy the urge. But upon reflection I realized I was paying too much for too low quality. That is the women in a kino can be down right scary. For another 5 € I could go to Liberty, have a beauty in a nice setting and feel way more satisfied. I just could not do this at 03:00 a.m.

This particular kino seems to be a sort of central escort terminus. All the girls there you will find on one or another escort site, and as I say they must all be connected. Bur reports from the German forums on this place are almost universally bad. From what I read it is actually a nicely set up place that used to be regarded very well but is avoided with the current owner ship. I have often been tempted to make a visit but never enough to actually do it.

[Hardbone]

Finally have a chance to get back to Berlin. Will make a visit to King George for sure, but then I'm wondering if it is worth trying the other flat-rate, Caligula?

Will arrive around mignight and check in to some hotel somewhere close to Kudam. From my last trip I remember that I could not find any brothels open at that time. Does anybody on this board know if there is any brothel open after midnight in walking distance from Kudam?

[QUOTE=Bearsk]There is plenty of Turkish talent:

http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/bordelle/aura.html

Actually I think that Aura is from Romania, but it is possible that she is half Turkish.

[Charlie 123]

Hi,

Made my debut at Tiffany's on Tuesday. Bordellos are not really my thing these days, now that I've discovered FKK's, but I had a sort of fancy for Pia from the website so I made an appointment for 11am and headed over to Kreuzberg. Actually, it's not really a Kreuzberg address at all, the building is only 100m from Kottbusser Tor U-bahn station - one of the most notoriuos druggie hangouts in the city

http://ritter11.de/bordell-girls/pia.php

Tiffanys is on the 4th floor of a converted factory building - the owner has taken an open workspace and divided it into 16 fuckrooms and a few lounges and bathrooms. I only saw a small part of the club but it seems to be nicely furnished.

Pia was prettier and younger in the flesh than I'd expected. She is a pretty blonde, but heavily made up. She was pleasant, but super-detached and professional. All fake moaning, and unconvincing writhing; I'm sure you're all familiar with the type.

I would say that she gives decent service, and in no way would I suggest that she had failed to deliver what was offered, it's just that the whole thing was so uninspiring.

Pricing was very fair - 80E for 40 minutes plus only 15 euro extra for 'Gesichtbesamung' ('Cumface' as she described it in her cute accent), and to her credit, when the vital moment came, she thrust her face right in the line of fire and took my load like a pornstar practitioner.

I probably would try Tiffs again if one of the girls caught my eye on the website, just to make sure that my first impressions were not misplaced, but I must say that from what I have seen to date I have a suspicion that, whilst I'm sure that it is a well-run and honest bordello, Tiffany's is a somewhat soulless and clinical environment in which to get laid.

Cheers,

Charlie

[Angus Magee]

Finally have a chance to get back to Berlin. Will make a visit to King George for sure, but then I'm wondering if it is worth trying the other flat-rate, Caligula?

Let's face it in the end, cheap pussy is cheap pussy. If the idea of getting lots of it appeals then I am sure either the KG or Caligula will fit the bill. Reports seem to vary for both places, from the very bad to the okay. From the web sites both seem to have some girls who are okay looking. It is the attitude you may run into that worries me.


Will arrive around mignight and check in to some hotel somewhere close to Kudam. From my last trip I remember that I could not find any brothels open at that time. Does anybody on this board know if there is any brothel open after midnight in walking distance from Kudam?

Mon Rouge is just off the Kudamm and it is open late(02:00 a.m.?) But it is not cheap pussy. Good though. Look for some reports in the thread as there are quite a few. http://www.monrouge.de/models_en.html


Not exactly just off the Kudamm, but pretty close is Mona's at Kantstr. 74. It is in the 50 € / half hour range and open all night until 5-6 a.m. The website actually states that they are moving Aug. 2 to 35a Libnitzstr. which is practically next door to Mon Rouge so it soon will be just off the Kudamm.

http://www.mona-kant74.de/galerie.html

AM

[Frank Cooper]

I'm staying in Kreuzberg for the weekend. Any brothels close by. I did a web search and Tiffanys is near my hotel. Any others?

[Europunter]

hi,

tiffany's is a somewhat soulless and clinical environment in which to get laid.

cheers,

charliecharlie,

i couldn't agree with you more. i was hooked in by an outstanding website with videos and lots of pix. went there on a friday night (i know, i know) and had a chance to look at 4 women. chose [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), a very young college student who spoke english. after agreeing on an hour-long visit, she walked me through the massive complex to the very last bedroom.

after explaining that the only extra she offerd was bbbj for another 20 euro, i was made to wash my privates from a sink in the corner of the room. when i landed on the massive bed, i got a whiff of some previous occupant's body odor. not a great way to start.

[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) was a beautiful clock watcher. good conversationalist, but very mechanical. was called off from some spontaneous finger fucking. and a run-through of her hair with my fingers found that she was wearing a wig. at this point, i was thinking that i should have stayed at my hotel (the savoy on fasenstrasse, which i can recommend without reservation as a modest and comfortable place to call home in berlin) and done the job myself.

after some perfunctory sex, i dressed and was asked if i wanted to have a cab called. i was shown the back door, which led down four flights to a vacant and unlit courtyard. after a few turns in the dark, i ended up on the street with the cab, incredibly, idling and waiting for me. the most remarkable thing about tiffany's!

all in all, i should have gone to k-d. my favorite bordello in the world.

[Angus Magee]

I'm staying in Kreuzberg for the weekend. Any brothels close by. I did a web search and Tiffanys is near my hotel. Any others?


If you are close to Tiffany's you are also close to Sternchen but I do not recommend Sternchen. Here is the website anyway.

http://www.club-sternchen.de/

Nice looking girls on the website but IME the ones they show when you arrive are not as nice. Buyer beware.

You are also reasonably close to Neuköln where there are many brothels. But you will have to do the research yourself and ask specific questions if you have them.

Do not forget to give back with a report.

AM

[Charlie 123]

All in all, I should have gone to K-D. My favorite bordello in the world.Really?

I have never been there myself, having been put off by a combination of the website and the house rules concerning safe oral sex. I just can't get excited about the idea of a BJ with a condom.

I note from your posting history that you seem to get about a bit internationally, so your strong recommendation for KD is persuasive to me. Perhaps I should give it a try - what it is in particular that causes you to rate KD so highly?

Best wishes,

Charlie

[Charlie 123]

If you are close to Tiffany's you are also close to Sternchen but I do not recommend Sternchen. Here is the website anyway.

http://www.club-sternchen.de/

AMFYI, I went there (albeit 2 years ago), and found it to be a vile place. This is what I wrote:


Sternchen - avoid

Sternchen LAST WEEK. NO GOOD!

I quite liked the look of their website and previous reports on this forum were not unpromising, so I took myself off to the East side last week for a session.

Never again!

The building is in a grubby street, with a burned out car outside the front door. The entrance is grimy, with no proper signage or doorbell. I had already blown out at a couple of other places earleir in the afternoon, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to go in. The entrance foyer of the appartment was milling with people, a few of the girls and a couple of blokes who probably work there. Not at all discreet. I had called in advance to establish that a certain girl was on duty that afternoon. Christina, and was assured that she was.

The Hausmutti showed me into one of their rooms, an unattractively furnished and somewhat dingy room that was a clear step down from the Charlottenberg appartments that I have become accustomed to. 3 girls appeared. All viciously ugly. Nevertheless, I chose the one who called herself Christina, although she bore no resemblance to the girl of that name on the website. She was a dumpy thing in a basque, big tits but a sullen round face and unfriendly demeanour. She quoted 50E for a basic session of 1/2 hour. When I enquired as to extras such as FO (specifically offered on the webpage), she said she didn't do that. That was enough for me. I left promptly and went back to Monrouge for another session with the delectable Jasmin.

I felt like I was back in the UK in some filthy crack-***** den up north. In short, there is no reason for anyone to waste their money at Sternchen when there are so many better clubs in town. Even if I just caught them on a bad day, I would never again bother to traipse across town on the off chance that they have cleaned up their act. I suggest that you don't either.

Cheers

CharlieBe warned.

[Angus Magee]

FYI, I went there (albeit 2 years ago), and found it to be a vile place. This is what I wrote:

Be warned.

I doubt very much that it has changed at all in two years, except for the fancier web site. Last time I was there I ended up with a pretty nice looking but extremely surly young lady. I swore I would never return and so far I have not even been tempted. I just mention it in the interest of giving the OP the option. I would also say this about Club Elfen which I mentioned in another post. Go only if you like the nastier side of Berlin mongering.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Regular readers will know just what is my opinion of the high class Berlin brothel VK. But to recap-it is a luxurious place with a selection of heavily photoshopped beauties beauties on the website. But I have been treated there, not so much by the girls but by the hausfrau, as a second class customer. I often wonder if I should give them another chance but so far have never been tempted.

However, in the interest of giving credit-they have recently opened a roof top terrace that you can book for an open air session. On the website it looks quite nice. I do have to wonder though about the shot of the Berlin evening sky with fire works. A not so subliminal message of how your session will turn out? Certainly the picture seems in line with the website's love of the photoshop-ic arts.

http://vankampenberlin.de/dachterrasse.html

Certainly a report of this would be a welcome addition to the forum.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Hi Charlie,

I believe when we were discussing your experiences at MR that you mentioned a young lady (whose name now escapes me) who you had visited at MR and is no longer there. The link to the VK website is for a young lady who now goes by the name of Carmen and who used to work at MR, though again I can not remember the name. I believe she is Romanian and does get pretty good reports.

http://vankampenberlin.de/carmen.html

AM

[Angus Magee]

while i know that you asked ep i myself have some strong opinions about this brothel and its' excellence so i thought i would also offer them. i hope ep also signs in as i woud be interested in a second opinion.

kd is, as i understand it one of the longest running brothels in berlin. and it is one of the biggest supporters of sex workers rights and safety, thus the infamous no bbbj rule. while i also am no big fan of condoms when it comes to blow jobs, i also do recognize the health risks involved, especially for the blower i.e. the lady. it has also been my long and maybe controversial view that a condom used during a blow job has mainly a psychological effect. that is, if (and i admit it is a big if) the blower knows what she is doing, and truly pays attention to your "unit", then you will not notice the condom.

in support of this i will mention a particularly memorable bj i received from a street girl way back in my toronto street days. the blow job was ,as far as i knew, without condom. it was spectacular and included cim & swallow as the young lady did not spit out next to the car upon completion. the only trouble was that upon arriving home and going to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) i discovered a cum filled condom on my cock. the lady had applied it with her mouth unknown to me and i never felt the difference. more recently i had with katja at bernds a session in which i thought, when she mounted me in cow girl, i was going in bare back. i had to look down to discover that in the later stage of a bbbj she had covered me up before fucking. again, i had no idea that there was any change in sensation in the blow job itself.

it always puts me in mind of the story in which two buddhist monks stand arguing about a finer spiritual point with regard to a flag flapping in the breeze. the one monk insists that it is the wind moving the flag that they are seeing. the second monk is equally insistant that it is the flag that moves the wind. he has spent perhaps too much time in his isolation cell. finally along comes a third monk, one who has spent many, many years contemplating such things. when asked the the question-which is it, the the wind moving the flag or the flag moving the wind, he says: you are both wrong, it is mind that moves both the wind and the flag.

my point can perhaps be more succinctly made by an old jewish saying taught to me by an israeli gf from my youth: never mind the potatoes if the soup is good.

all that being said, i have had some of my very best sessions ever at kd. if you can chose well off the website, which is getting more difficult as so many of the girls now chose not to be pictured, you have a high likelihood of a great session. the girls who work there are generally happy to be there and like the job. so if there is even a little bit of chemistry she will give it her all.

i myself have not been there for a while. but this is mostly, as we discussed, due to the charms of artemis, not that i find kd lacking. and from a financial point of view, which may not play a big a role for you as it does for me sometimes, kd is nice as you know that the session price will not skyrocket as a result of my suddenly wanting kissing, bbbj and cim. by way of comparison, a royal session can jump from 150 for the hour to 200+ when you ad on a few extras. and at kd, if the girl kisses (not all will kiss all customers, depends on chemistry) you will not be charged extra. one girl i used to see mainly for the kissing. we got along well and she was a spectacular kisser. sadly she is no longer there.

so maybe this goes a little way in explaining kds appeal for some. it is true that it is lacking in the bbbj department. but the level of service you can receive there is sometimes off the charts.

regards

am

[Angus Magee]

I have just finished and published a new post on Angus' blog. The subject tantra in general and in Berlin.

www.angusmagee.com

Read, enjoy comment. You can now follow me on twitter where I publish links to all new posts as well as sometimes interesting comments. It took me a while to get on the twitter bus and I am still not all there with it, but it is fun.

http://twitter.com/AngusMagee

AM

[Charlie 123]

Hi Charlie,

I believe when we were discussing your experiences at MR that you mentioned a young lady (whose name now escapes me) who you had visited at MR and is no longer there. The link to the VK website is for a young lady who now goes by the name of Carmen and who used to work at MR, though again I can not remember the name. I believe she is Romanian and does get pretty good reports.

http://vankampenberlin.de/carmen.html

AMI think you're right.

I had seen the photos of this girl Carmen on the VK website and I had put her on the 'must do' list. If she had been available last week when I was in Berlin then I'd have paid her a visit. I didn't recognise her as being the ex-Monrouge lass, but now I have compared the VK pics to the stored photo of the MR girl on my computer and I think you are correct in suggesting that they are one and the same girl.

The girl in question was known at MR as 'Katherina' , and I had an inferior session with her despite the fact that her figure and general physical profile accords precisely with my preferences (i.e. she's got huge titties)

Her pics are still available to view on the net:-

http://www.monrouge.de/katharina.html

Best

Charlie

[Charlie 123]

All that being said, I have had some of my very best sessions ever at KD. If you can chose well off the website, which is getting more difficult as so many of the girls now chose not to be pictured, you have a high likelihood of a great session. The girls who work there are generally happy to be there and like the job. So if there is even a little bit of chemistry she will give it her all.

So maybe this goes a little way in explaining KDs appeal for some. It is true that it is lacking in the bbbj department. But the level of service you can receive there is sometimes off the charts.

Regards

AMOk, buddy, you talked me into it!

Report coming next week. Margo and/or Fiona the most likely candidates.

Charlie

[Angus Magee]

Ok, buddy, you talked me into it!

Report coming next week. Margo and/or Fiona the most likely candidates.

Charlie

Hope it all goes well. And I am sure that the old Charlie 123 charm will have which ever, or both of them, eating from your palms. Look at the performance that you recently managed to coax out of little Gabitza (sp?) at Artemis.

I did do a check on the German forum for both and came up with a very good report on Margo. Apparently the breasts are huge and quite natural;)

AM

[Europunter]

Really?

Perhaps I should give it a try - what it is in particular that causes you to rate KD so highly?

Best wishes,

CharlieHi Charlie,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you - have been trying to shrug off a summer cold -- nothing worse - and have not been on for a few days.

While I won't be as eloquent as Angus (few are!) I can tell you that KD has an ambience/decor/environment that is unmatched in my visits to brothels elsewhere in Germany, UK and in the Far East. I feel as if you're very well respected there and the cleanliness is hard to beat. (I delight in taking a shower in the second floor bathroom with ample towels, disposable tooth brushes, robes, etc.) They also go out of their way in making sure that you don't see any other clients -- a doorbell-like warning system keeps the girls from taking you out while another client is coming or going.

And then there are the women -- I've had parades of up to eight women on an early evening and as few as four at other times. The decision is always tough, but I've only been disappointed once in performance -- (Flavia) As far as BBBJ goes - the application technique and eye contact that many of them employ is world-class.

IMHO K-D has all of the ingredients needed to assure you that your hard earned dollars/euros are well spent. Hmmmm -- I could use an afternoon visit there soon --- but alas, my travel schedule this fall has me in Koeln and Duesseldorf - not Berlin. On to Traum Paridies or Teenyland as I've learned about on the Koeln page.

Best,

Europunter

[Strike 69]

Guys one question which of these cities are better to pick up and fuck blonde women?? whether they are pros or freebies: Berlin or Madrid??

I have to chose between these 2 cities to go on for work for some time and I have preference for blonde women, thus I would like to chose the city that is more suitable to find and fuck them, I have been in Madrid but I am not that familiar with Berlin although my guess is that Berlin is better for that.

Thanks in advance

[Paddington]

Ok, buddy, you talked me into it!

Report coming next week. Margo and/or Fiona the most likely candidates.

CharlieHaving seen Fiona several times, I can only recommend you call KD to try and book her for an appointment, even if she's not listed on the current schedule on the website (http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/presence-1.htm). She might be on holiday, or just taking it easy.

Fiona is an absolute gem, and will do her utmost to satisfy you, and is quite open-minded. When I've seen her, I've been fully satisfied, and have left KD on legs that were a bit "unruly".

My last visit to KD was without an appointment, and I ended having a 1 hour session with Cat (http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/cat.htm), who is much better looking in person, than the slightly photoshopped pictures on the site. When I saw her, she was quite playful and perky, had a great time with her, and we ended up going over time with our little pillow talk. Am definitely going to see her again, perhaps very soon

Earlier this year, I had a session with Tony (http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/tony.htm), who had recently started at KD (perhaps in the business entirely). She was a little nervous/shy at first, but soon warmed up, and we had some great times. Loved her short hair and tiny frame. At the end of the session, there was no shyness left in her

At some point last year, I had a delightful session with Charlotte (http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/charlotte.htm). Started out slowly with massage and chat, and ending up with slow, joyful sex. Loved the feeling of her amazingly long arms and legs around me in missionary. Charlotte has enhanced breasts (too firm for my tastes) that look very nice and suit her quite well.

Sessions of 45 mins or longer takes you to the upstairs rooms, which are quite nice. There are also showers available.

I've never experienced being rushed at KD, and have on more than one occasion gone over time because of chatting with the lady, initiated by them. I've also never experienced any upselling at KD.

The only time I've been disappointed, was a Sunday afternoon where the hausfrau told me that there were no ladies available for at least another two hours. I guess I wasn't the only one wanting a quality session that day Ended up wandering down to VK and had a great time there, so not all that disappointed.

P.S. Sorry about the lack of reporting, have been very passive here, I'll try and do a post after my next outing.

[Angus Magee]

Guys one question which of these cities are better to pick up and fuck blonde women?? whether they are pros or freebies: Berlin or Madrid??

I have to chose between these 2 cities to go on for work for some time and I have preference for blonde women, thus I would like to chose the city that is more suitable to find and fuck them, I have been in Madrid but I am not that familiar with Berlin although my guess is that Berlin is better for that.

Thanks in advance


Trouble is that many of the pros, at least at the cheaper end of things where you could pick them up & fuck then, are from South Europe i.e. Bulgaria, Romania, and tend to be dark hired.

But hey, this is Deutschland, home of the pneumatic Blond warrior. If you are willing to pay, and willing to pay a bit more, you can find the blondest blond you'd ever want here in Berlin.

Artemis would be a good place to start.

[Angus Magee]

Fiona is an absolute gem, and will do her utmost to satisfy you, and is quite open-minded. When I've seen her, I've been fully satisfied, and have left KD on legs that were a bit "unruly".

I love it when this happens. I have often thought that KD should offer a wheelchair service up to the UBahn for such sessions;)

And your experience is pretty much spot on as far as I am concerned. I have never been rushed at KD, especially on the longer sessions that take you upstairs. I can remember quiet afternoon visits with my no longer working Russian minx April where we had the whole upstairs to ourselves and lounged around the best part of half an hour over time. I feel it is always best to let the girl know that you are aware of the time, but then if she is okay with it, just follow her lead. Unless the place is hopping and the room needed, you will not be rushed out.

My only disappointment at KD was a session with new girl, quite young and obviously inexperienced. First I found her a bit large for my tastes. Very sweet girl and she actually gave me a bbbj and I am sure cim if I wanted. Now I am under no illusion that Angus' dick tastes like candy and the girls can not resist to put it unsheathed in their mouths. I literally think I was her first or second customer ever and she somehow did not know the house guideline. And as far as I know it is a guideline and not a rule. That is, the girls can give bbbj if they want, but most (all)do not want and the house will always support this-so don't go demanding!

Trouble was that her bj was one of the worst in living memory. It was a bad bj for the ages, toothy and shallow, and had me wishing for hand support. I finally had to stop her just to keep Little A from shrinking completely back into my scrotum. In the end I settled for a titty fuck as she was well stacked and that is a treat I only enjoy from time to time due to my preference towards small breasted providers.

As for Sunday-it is a bad day in General to visit bordellos (Artemis excepted) in Berlin. Up until a few years back most were closed. Now they open but often with way less staff than is really needed. I am guessing that many girls like their Sundays off. Who can blame them? For Sunday visits I would always suggest looking at the website, making a couple of choices, then phoning ahead for an appointment. Even then you may be disappointed as I have experienced that even girls listed as working on Sunday do not show up for work.

Thanks for the report Paddington. Better late than never I always say. And your contribution was of some quality KD girls which is very useful.

Regards

AM

[Charlie 123]

Having seen Fiona several times, I can only recommend you call KD to try and book her for an appointment, even if she's not listed on the current schedule on the website (http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/presence-1.htm). She might be on holiday, or just taking it easy.

Fiona is an absolute gem, and will do her utmost to satisfy you, and is quite open-minded. When I've seen her, I've been fully satisfied, and have left KD on legs that were a bit "unruly".

My last visit to KD was without an appointment, and I ended having a 1 hour session with Cat (http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/cat.htm), who is much better looking in person, than the slightly photoshopped pictures on the site. When I saw her, she was quite playful and perky, had a great time with her, and we ended up going over time with our little pillow talk. Am definitely going to see her again, perhaps very soon

Earlier this year, I had a session with Tony (http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/tony.htm), who had recently started at KD (perhaps in the business entirely). She was a little nervous/shy at first, but soon warmed up, and we had some great times. Loved her short hair and tiny frame. At the end of the session, there was no shyness left in her

At some point last year, I had a delightful session with Charlotte (http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/charlotte.htm). Started out slowly with massage and chat, and ending up with slow, joyful sex. Loved the feeling of her amazingly long arms and legs around me in missionary. Charlotte has enhanced breasts (too firm for my tastes) that look very nice and suit her quite well.

Sessions of 45 mins or longer takes you to the upstairs rooms, which are quite nice. There are also showers available.

I've never experienced being rushed at KD, and have on more than one occasion gone over time because of chatting with the lady, initiated by them. I've also never experienced any upselling at KD.

The only time I've been disappointed, was a Sunday afternoon where the hausfrau told me that there were no ladies available for at least another two hours. I guess I wasn't the only one wanting a quality session that day Ended up wandering down to VK and had a great time there, so not all that disappointed.

P.S. Sorry about the lack of reporting, have been very passive here, I'll try and do a post after my next outing.Many thanks for your input - much food for thought.

I did once go to KD's - I had a friend with me in town and wanted him to sample the best that Berlin had to offer. We'd been to Artemis the evening before and I had had an early morning session at MR, so it was purely for his benefit that we went to KD. The hausmutti was pretty unfriendly and unhelpful and the 4 girls she brought for him to see were all extremely sub-par. I also recall the room in which we met the girls being pretty dingy and poor by comparison to the place I'd just visited (Monrouge). He declined all 4 girls and we left. That brief encounter, combined with some of the restrictive policies of the house (covered BJ etc) have conspired to somewhat put me off the place, perhaps incorrectly.

Pursuant to the very positive endorsements that I've read here in the last few days, I'm going to give it another shot next week.

Of course, I will be sure to post my observations here

Thanx again for your comprehensive response

Charlie

[Paddington]

Pursuant to the very positive endorsements that I've read here in the last few days, I'm going to give it another shot next week.I hope you will have a great time at KD

Inspired by last nights reading and writing, I opted to swing by KD early this evening, hoping to see either Cat or Miranda (http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/miranda.htm) who has been on my todo list since she joined KD.

Apparently both girls were busy, I didn't book in advance, so the hausfrau offered me the parade, and I ended up choosing to have a 1 hour session with Atropa (http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/atropa.htm), I chose her mainly since she seemed the most friendly of 6 girls available.

We got the transaction (€160) out of the way, and I waited in the room, while she sorted out keys with the hausfrau.

We went upstairs, I had a shower (much needed after a day of work) while she went to get me my drink. We started out on the sofa with a little cuddling and getting to know each other. Quickly she asked if I'd like to kiss her, which I couldn't refuse. It didn't take long to get into the mood, so she took my hand and lead me to the bed for some more groping and kissing.

She offered me a massage, and since I was somewhat tired and wanting companionship as much as sex, I accepted. We had a very nice time, with all sorts of little chit chat. Eventually, she laid down beside me and got down to business.

After putting on the condom she gave me a very nice BJ, paying adequate attention to the balls as well

Eventually she decided that I shouldn't be the only one taking pleasure, so we ended up with some nice 69 action, which she seemed quite into.

After this we moved on to a very slow cowgirl ride, still with kissing and gentle caressing and fondling.

Ended up taking her from behind, which was quite enjoyable.

At one point during the act, she commented that I was a very gentle and attentive lover. This took me quite by surprise, since I wasn't really bringing my best today. But, a nice surprise nevertheless.

For those that are hung up on physical attributes: I would say that she's got B-cups, nice round bottom and hips, good for hanging on to in doggy, long black hair, three tattoos, a little piercing in her nose.

Was it worth it?

I would consider this a GFE, and would gladly repeat. Hell, if I had this kind of sex with girlfriends, I would also gladly repeat

I am however, still quite into Cat's fun and perky personality, and will most likely book her for an appointment next time, or Fiona if she turns up on the schedule again (which I am sure she will).

[Paddington]

I love it when this happens. I have often thought that KD should offer a wheelchair service up to the UBahn for such sessions.That's not a bad idea, or perhaps a little lounge where you can sit and enjoy a beer and a smile, while waiting for your legs to go back to normal.

Just wanted to say thanks for the extensive reporting by you, and all the contributors. It's certainly made it very easy for me to figure out where I want to spend my €'s

[Angus Magee]

The hausmutti was pretty unfriendly and unhelpful and the 4 girls she brought for him to see were all extremely sub-par. I also recall the room in which we met the girls being pretty dingy and poor by comparison to the place I'd just visited (Monrouge)

While I can not speak for the Hausmutti you met I have always found them to be polite & helpful. But then for some reason I have never shown up at KD unannounced and always had a termine with a particular girl. So my contact with the Huasmuttis has been minimal and restricted to-Guten Tag, Ich habe Termine mit..

As for the premises-downstairs where you are greeted and shown the girls is not as nice as upstairs where you go for the longer sessions. There is one downstairs room I have used which is nice but still not so nice as upstairs. And over all the apartment in which KD is housed is not as nice as MR. That is MR is located in what is, in my opinion, the best Berlin has to offer in apartments. It is an "Altbau" building (meaning old) with towering ceilings and some big room. Once I had discovered the big middle room in MR (the one with the big bed, slightly raised, in the middle of the room) I always tried to arrange for my session in it by asking specifically for the room.

KD is in a much newer building and the ceilings are just of normal height. The rooms are nice upstairs (the "harem" room in the left hand side apartment is the best IMO) but not quite so breathtaking as the big MR rooms.

But by far the best apartment, better than either MR or KD. in Berlin is Royal on Bundesplatz. This place has some rooms that make you think you have fallen into another world. Not all of them of course, but some rooms are just huge and very beautifully furnished and appointed. One of the rooms, in a sort of African theme, even has a large cage for some kind of fantasy game. It is not all tacky, dark s/m ad creepy, but similar to the sort of cage a big game hunter might bring with him upon returning from the dark continent containing a Nubian slave girl.

As you can see. ol' Angus' fantasies went into high gear seeing the cage. I have yet to return though to pursue this fantasy & make use of the cage.

[Strike 69]

Trouble is that many of the pros, at least at the cheaper end of things where you could pick them up & fuck then, are from South Europe i.e. Bulgaria, Romania, and tend to be dark hired.

But hey, this is Deutschland, home of the pneumatic Blond warrior. If you are willing to pay, and willing to pay a bit more, you can find the blondest blond you'd ever want here in Berlin.

Artemis would be a good place to start.

Thank you, I hope to find a larger selection of blonde women in Berlin that what I've found in Madrid, I will check that Artemis club out and FKK La Folie seems to be an interesting place. After trying some pros I will go and try luck with some German freebie, any recommendations on that? I speak some German but never lived in Berlin before, so I suspect local German women behave somewhat different than those found in the provinces.

[Angus Magee]

Thank you, I hope to find a larger selection of blonde women in Berlin that what I've found in Madrid, I will check that Artemis club out and FKK La Folie seems to be an interesting place. After trying some pros I will go and try luck with some German freebie, any recommendations on that? I speak some German but never lived in Berlin before, so I suspect local German women behave somewhat different than those found in the provinces.


Well, I am not a great expert in the freebie scene. I seem to like my pussy paid for directly in the hand;)

But I am told often that freebies are easy to find here and that Berlin women are pretty liberal in attitude. It is just not my experience as I do not look for it really.

As for La Folie-for blonds you will have better luck, at higher expense but better (I feel) value at Artemis. You may find an older blond at La Folie but the girls there do tend to be Romanian, Bulgarian or Polish with the occasional German. Artemis also has a fair number of EE girls but also more German blonds.

You might want to also check out KD, Liberty and Royal, all bordello apartments.

[Bobo.fr]

1) Hausmutti
I found them nice, sometimes they may chat and joke, easy smiling.
The problem with me, a no-German speaking guy is that I met more often than in the past hausmuttis who speak only German (in general, they asked an English speaking working lady to help them).

2) Working ladies
To avoid misunderstandings, my personal opinion is that most of the ladies working at KD are much more "girl next door", "office/university colleague" type than "magazine models" type.
So before deciding where to go, do you know which type of ladies are you looking for ?

[Bobo.fr]

Sunday 18th :
Jennifer ( http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/jenniff-e.htm ) was fully booked until her departure but I could ask to meet her for few minutes before she left : she's very cute; I told her as she was not planned to work on the following days (before wednesday) I would propose her some "private meetings" ("escorts") on monday or tuesday.

I unsuccesfully asked for "private meeting" ("escorts") with : June, Cora, Cat, Liz and Marianna.
For the second time (the first time should be in March) I was said that, now, Cora ( http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/coraa-e.htm ) and her friend June ( http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/june.htm ) practised only bizaar games. I wonder if it's just "diplomatical" justifications for their refusal.

Monday 19th :
a) Morning :
I saw a guy wearing a Dutch orange football team tee-shirt (I don't give the number (beginning by1) for his privacy; is he a ISG forumer ?); I thought he spent time with Sunny because after his entrance, I was said that she was busy.
I liked Alex (new ? she does not have her web page yet : when I click on Alex on the schedule, I get Louisa's page) when she introduced herself to me but she warned me that she would not kiss (me ?)
Finally, I met Sunny but just for 45 minutes because she had already a meeting scheduled.

b) Night
During the afternoon, I tried to ask for a "private meeting" with Jennifer but finally, for private reasons, she would be able to meet me only on tuesday night.
I spent 90 minutes with Cat who gave me a very nice erotic massage.

[Bobo.fr]

I noted that the restaurant "Momo" at the corner was closed definitely : what's a pity, especially in winter time (I used to order soups there, waiting for my meetings with KD's ladies)

Tuesday 20th :
Yves ( http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/yve-e.htm ), scheduled as among the "morning team" would come only at 01:PM ,so no meetings until 08:00 PM with Jennifer.
Very cute and nice lady, very tender meeting : 90 minutes were so short but as I had appointments with friends at 10:00 PM , no extents were possible.


Wednesday 21st :
Morning : nice meeting with Yves.

Late at night, Jennifer was among the "night team" but fully booked so I met Cat again : very funny, talkative, nice meeting, nice massage (Cat seemed get excited when she was on top)

[Ezye101]

Hello guys,

Sorry for my ingnorance once again, but can someone please tell me what these abbreviations stand for GV, FS, ZK FN und AV ??

Cheers.

[Jerrylee]

Hello guys,

Sorry for my ingnorance once again, but can someone please tell me what these abbreviations stand for GV, FS, ZK FN und AV ??

Cheers.GV = Geschlechtsverkehr (intercourse)
FS = ? (probably stands for Full Service, could also mean Face Sitting)
ZK = Zungenküsse (french kisses)
FN = Französisch natur, also ohne Gummi (oral sex without condom)
AV = Analverkehr (anal intercourse)

[Tompnis]

Hi Guys

Now back in Berlin after an absence of nearly 9 months and had a chance to visit some of my favourite haunts.

Liberty

Always a good time here; unlike normal, I did not phone in advance and make an appt so had the parade. Chose a girl called Marlene (http://www.Libertyberlin. De/marlene.html). Had seen her once before. She had something about her when she waltzed in the room and smiled that, as they say, had me at Hello.

She'e Polish, Blonde (dyed), big breasted (false) and brassy. Just what I was after.

Went for 40mins, kissing and come on her face. About 120 Euros.

She was really enthusiastic, really dirty (great tongue) and overall a top service

Allowed me play about and when the time came really encouraged me and then took a full load on her face without backing away. Great.

Added to my list of repeats. Glad to see that Liberty has not lost their charm but I hear their other place (Salon Prestige) is having a hard time.

[Talac]

Hi guys,

I need a little help. I am planning a bachelor party in Berlin, and I need some sugesstions. I rented one apartment were we will stay, and I was planning to hire 5 girls to apartment for some orgy, or something similar. I ve never been in Berlin so I don't know if something like this is wise, safe or even possible. Do you have some suggestions, links, contacts, to realised that event, or you think it is better of safer to go in some clubs. Any information would be very helpfull.

Best men

[Angus Magee]

Hello guys,

Sorry for my ingnorance once again, but can someone please tell me what these abbreviations stand for GV, FS, ZK FN und AV ??

Cheers.

Hi,

I'll do my best but will just give the English meanings as I do not feel like doing all the work involved in finding the correct spellings in German of the words.

GV=Full service sex more commonly known as fucking
FS=I am not sure, Are you sure it was not FT? That is bbbj w/cim (oral, no condom ejaculating in the mouth)
ZK=Tongue Kisses (french kissing)
FN is probably bbbj w/o cim (just oral without condom but no ejaculation in the mouth)
AV= anal sex

AM (Angus Magee)

[Angus Magee]

Hi guys,

I need a little help. I am planning a bachelor party in Berlin, and I need some sugesstions. I rented one apartment were we will stay, and I was planning to hire 5 girls to apartment for some orgy, or something similar. I ve never been in Berlin so I don't know if something like this is wise, safe or even possible. Do you have some suggestions, links, contacts, to realised that event, or you think it is better of safer to go in some clubs. Any information would be very helpfull.

Best men

Hi,

First of all I think it very possible & safe. Wise? You will have to decide but then when is mongering ever really wise.

I had to wonder what kind of budget you have in mind. And did you envision the girls coming for a set fee, all included? or that the guys attending the party pay as they go. If the former it is easy but expensive, at least by my standards. The latter would be less expensive to the person hosting the party (you?) but might be harder to arrange. Especially in advance with little to no German knowledge. You could of corse use a more expensive & reliable agency (Kamilla Dee's escort for example) but that would get quite expensive for multiple girls & a few hours. Like 3-5 thousand Euros (200€ per girl per hour,3-5 hrs estimate). Like I say, you could of course do it cheaper with a lesser agency but then the reliability factor goes down. The Berlin escort scene is not the most reliable I have known.

There are other questions in my mind like-do you really want an orgy? or is it more having the girls available to go to more private rooms. The orgy scenario would be again more expensive. Are you looking for really quality girls? or are you happy with the more...er...skanky variety.

If you answer some of these questions I can perhaps point you towards suitable agencies. But you will have to do the negotiation yourself. I am not (yet) offering Angus Magee Pimp services;)

Personally I would suggest Artemis as a good club and venue for this. You could even, for a price, rent out their VIP party room (not sure of the cost) and stock it with girls from the club. I do not know exactly how this works but a call to Artemis would clear that up. The front desk girls generally speak good English.

Regards

AM

[Angus Magee]

Glad to see that Liberty has not lost their charm but I hear their other place (Salon Prestige) is having a hard time.


Hi, Tompnis,

Thanks for yet another good Liberty report. I wonder what you ave heard with regard to Salon Prestige? I know that the had some legal trouble a while back but they won the case. Something about the bordello being a disturbance in the neighborhood. I heard that the judge (a female judge actually) went out and had a look to decide that the bordello was quiet & did not interfere with the residents. It was a good thing as this was also seen as a test case that could have effected all apartment bordellos had it gone the other way.

Personally I have always found SP not as good as Liberty. The place has a sort of dingy feel to it and my sessions, admittedly not a huge sample, have been adequate at best. I can never quite figure out why as it is the same folks running the place. The prices are exactly the same but SP has a low rent feel to it while Liberty has a classy feel.

Angus

[Bearsk]

I agree with Angus on this one. If you do a private party, I think its going to cost around 3000 Euro.

I would suggest that you run with a visit to Artemis. This frees up options for all those concerned - you can get them to pay the 80 Euro entrance and chip in for the Groom (and for Mein Host, Uncle Angus if you can talk him into it).
If guys on the team just want to do Wellness, eat, gym and a massage they can do it.
You can then opt to sign out and come back if you want to go somewhere else.
The public transport Summer sex tour of Berlin with Angus based on his blog would also be a classic in my book.
Not sure AM is offering that?

There are plenty of other things to do in Berlin.

Originally Posted by Talac
Hi guys,

I need a little help. I am planning a bachelor party in Berlin, and I need some sugesstions. I rented one apartment were we will stay, and I was planning to hire 5 girls to apartment for some orgy, or something similar. I ve never been in Berlin so I don't know if something like this is wise, safe or even possible. Do you have some suggestions, links, contacts, to realised that event, or you think it is better of safer to go in some clubs. Any information would be very helpfull.

Best men



Hi,

First of all I think it very possible & safe. Wise? You will have to decide but then when is mongering ever really wise.

I had to wonder what kind of budget you have in mind. And did you envision the girls coming for a set fee, all included? or that the guys attending the party pay as they go. If the former it is easy but expensive, at least by my standards. The latter would be less expensive to the person hosting the party (you?) but might be harder to arrange. Especially in advance with little to no German knowledge. You could of corse use a more expensive & reliable agency (Kamilla Dee's escort for example) but that would get quite expensive for multiple girls & a few hours. Like 3-5 thousand Euros (200€ per girl per hour,3-5 hrs estimate). Like I say, you could of course do it cheaper with a lesser agency but then the reliability factor goes down. The Berlin escort scene is not the most reliable I have known.

There are other questions in my mind like-do you really want an orgy? or is it more having the girls available to go to more private rooms. The orgy scenario would be again more expensive. Are you looking for really quality girls? or are you happy with the more...er...skanky variety.

If you answer some of these questions I can perhaps point you towards suitable agencies. But you will have to do the negotiation yourself. I am not (yet) offering Angus Magee Pimp services;)

Personally I would suggest Artemis as a good club and venue for this. You could even, for a price, rent out their VIP party room (not sure of the cost) and stock it with girls from the club. I do not know exactly how this works but a call to Artemis would clear that up. The front desk girls generally speak good English.

Regards

AM

[Iamsterdam]

Hello,

I will spend a few days in Berlin. I am looking for a girl for erotic photoshooting in my hotel room. The style is very open with simulated sex positions but no real sex needed. But I cannot speak German. Could anyone suggest a model or a website to find such girls? Any idea on price level?

Thank you in advance.

[Angus Magee]

(and for Mein Host, Uncle Angus if you can talk him into it).

Just try keeping me away if offered ;)



The public transport Summer sex tour of Berlin with Angus based on his blog would also be a classic in my book.
Not sure AM is offering that?

Angus offers anything that is reasonably legal and does not involve he himself being..um... the target of attention. That is my guiding abilities are coming on line and especially useful for the Artemis experience. And you get the full force of my philosophical musings in the down time between sessions. The ladies can't resist;)




There are plenty of other things to do in Berlin.

There are? Oh, oh yeah. I guess there are...

AM

[Tompnis]

Hi Angus,

Totally unverified information but I heard it from a friend (who claims to know the female owner of Liberty) that they were struggliing business wise and that's why she wanted to close SP. Never been there myself but apparently it is nowhere as busy as Liberty. As said may just be a rumour.

T

[Angus Magee]

Hello,

I will spend a few days in Berlin. I am looking for a girl for erotic photoshooting in my hotel room. The style is very open with simulated sex positions but no real sex needed. But I cannot speak German. Could anyone suggest a model or a website to find such girls? Any idea on price level?

Thank you in advance.

I wonder if you are wanting the photos for just your own use ? or do you plan to use them commercially? I know that many of the less high end escort agencies would probably have girls who do not mind photos for a price. But you would probably have to pay the regular hourly rate plus a photo fee as an extra. With this arrangement I doubt anyone would worry about the legal issue of model release forms. But it might be hard to arrange without speaking any German and I do not know what you have in mind as a budget?

I also know of a porn star (Valentina ex Kamilla Dee) who is now working as an indy escort in Berlin. She is, as I say, a bonafide porn actress who has her own website under the name Sarah Rose.

http://sarah-rose.com/sr/

As I say she works, as far as I know, out of a penthouse suite now here in Berlin. She is also a very smart & astute business woman who knows her stuff and the porn industry. So she would probably be a good person to at least talk to. She speaks very good English and as an escort/P4P companion is one of the best, IMHO. You will find her info here. I doubt she is cheap.

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-SarahRose-25054.html

AM

[Neworlean]

Quick question. I am going to be in Berlin for two nights and am considering flying to Frankfurt to go to FKK Oase. It it worth taking a one night trip to Frankfurt to visit Oase or would my time be better spent just spending a third night in Berlin. I

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First time in Berlin

[Vompat]

Coming over the weekend to Berlin with my friends.

Were to get good service earliest in the morning? We arriving Saturday morning 7.30 and dont want to loose time.

One of us is very interested about thais, anyone tried http://www.thaimodelle.de/home.html or have other suggestions?

My reports from Artemis and some other places will follow.

[Angus Magee]

Quick question. I am going to be in Berlin for two nights and am considering flying to Frankfurt to go to FKK Oase. It it worth taking a one night trip to Frankfurt to visit Oase or would my time be better spent just spending a third night in Berlin. I

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First time in Berlin

I would have to agree with what has been said over in the Oase thread on the same question you ask there. But I also add that you do not really say enough about your situation so it is also a bit difficult to say.

Oase & Artemis are both large clubs and have a similar line up of girls in both number and quality. But there the comparison ends and it depends just what you are looking for and what is important to you.

If you are just here for a short visit and the main interest is girls, then I would not bother with a day trip to Oase. If you are more interested in the relaxation facilities (a big outdoor facility at Oase) and the girls are a bonus, then you might want to visit Oase. Artemis is very much a night time indoor club. Then there is the weather to consider.

As I say-not enough info from you really.

AM

[Basketcase]

Quick question. I am going to be in Berlin for two nights and am considering flying to Frankfurt to go to FKK Oase. It it worth taking a one night trip to Frankfurt to visit Oase or would my time be better spent just spending a third night in Berlin. I

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First time in Berlin
Neworlean,

Berlin is a big city with lots to see including FKK Artemis, Van Kampen, La Folie and Kamilla Dee. With just 3 days - it is best to spend them in Berlin rather than break the trip up with a side trip to FFM. You would be spending a fair bit of time in transit and travelling. Not worth going to FFM just to go to Oase when Artemis will provide all that you would want and more.

Save FFM for another time and visit Palace and World, Mainhattan and Sharks and Das 5 Element. Many other options and much better in some peoples' opinion than Oase.

[Iamsterdam]

Angus Magee. I appreciate your information. Actually I am looking for some models who can provide a cheap service. I am only shooting for my personal use and I am nowhere near a professional photographer. But I am sure your leads will be useful for other people.

Just my experience. In Frankfurt RLD, a girl quoted 150 euro for photo showing her face and 15 euro if her face is covered, on top of the 25 euro for regular service. I opted for the later choice.

[Neworlean]

I am going to go ahead and spend 3 nights in Berlin. I realy appreciate the advice.

[Charlie 123]

Quick question. I am going to be in Berlin for two nights and am considering flying to Frankfurt to go to FKK Oase. It it worth taking a one night trip to Frankfurt to visit Oase or would my time be better spent just spending a third night in Berlin. I

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First time in BerlinA dissenting voice here!

I disagree with the other two responders, even though I know them to both be master mongers.

If your budget will allow it, and unless an opportunity to visit the West is likely to be forthcoming in the near future, my advice would be to take the trip to Frankfurt and visit Oase. Some guys like to spend several days at the same joint - I like to hop from place to place spending sometimes as little as a few hours at each. I have done whistle-stop tours in Hessen and NRW on more than one occasion when I have visited 3 FKK's in a single day. I just did 4 days at Artemis this week and by the end of my stay I would have killed for a bit of variety.

You have to know yourself of course, but if it was me then I would unquestionably be looking to split my trip between the two destinations.

Nice choice to have. Either way, enjoy!

Charlie

[Charlie 123]

Popped in on Tuesday. Choice of 6 girls. Shortlisted down to two, Sibil (on website) and Sandra (not). I chose Sandra. Poor choice. She is a tall brunette with a slim figure and large tits. Pretty face, pleasant girl, striking figure. Problem was, she offers a minimalist service. No facial, no anal (not my cuppa tea anyway), no FT, and above all COVERED BJ! This is really not the Monrouge way. I have been with lots of their girls and they usually offer a comprehensive service. She gave me the opportunity to back down once she'd explained the limitations but I didn't fancy calling in another girl who'd know that she'd been second choice. So I went ahead with it. 'Halbe stunde' with CoB finish cost me 100 thoroughly wasted euros. She is an ex-Bel Ami girl and is no doubt used to easy money. Thoroughly pleasant girl with a cracking body, no doubt about that, and an ideal girlfriend I'm sure, but as an SP she's just not worth the time or money. Avoid.

Charlie

[Tompnis]

In my efforts to make up for lost time when working away from Berlin I really felt I needed to visit Mon Rouge as I had so much about it but never been there. First surprise was arriving there; really got to say does not look like a traditional bordello. Large house, plates outside with the name and a big staircase. Went inside and was shown into a room on the same floor as the entrance; large room, huge bed in the centre.

Had the usual parade and immediately chose Maya who really stood out

http://www.Monrouge. De/maya_neu.html

She really looks as good in real life. I asked her to put on some stockings and high heels and she kindly obliged. Went for my usual in such places- OWO, kissing and then some hopefully pleasant sex. Maya was friendly, enthusiastic and the experience was fun. In truth slightly mechanical as it kind of felt as if she was going through the motions but none the less pleasant for that.

All in all a very pleasant punt. Also has the added benefit of staying open until 2am which is a real real plus for me. Also apparently do an escort service (not cheap). Defintiely added a new place to my "usuals" of Liberty and KLD.

Anyone seen Valencia? Looks kind of interesting on the website.

[Charlie 123]

In my efforts to make up for lost time when working away from Berlin I really felt I needed to visit Mon Rouge as I had so much about it but never been there. First surprise was arriving there; really got to say does not look like a traditional bordello. Large house, plates outside with the name and a big staircase. Went inside and was shown into a room on the same floor as the entrance; large room, huge bed in the centre.

Had the usual parade and immediately chose Maya who really stood out

http://www.Monrouge. De/maya_neu.html

She really looks as good in real life. I asked her to put on some stockings and high heels and she kindly obliged. Went for my usual in such places- OWO, kissing and then some hopefully pleasant sex. Maya was friendly, enthusiastic and the experience was fun. In truth slightly mechanical as it kind of felt as if she was going through the motions but none the less pleasant for that.

All in all a very pleasant punt. Also has the added benefit of staying open until 2am which is a real real plus for me. Also apparently do an escort service (not cheap). Defintiely added a new place to my "usuals" of Liberty and KLD.

Anyone seen Valencia? Looks kind of interesting on the website.When did this encounter take place? Maya has been away for several weeks. I had a couple of sessions with her last month and found her to be sensational.

I was at MR last week. Valencia was in the line-up but I chose someone else (see report below). She didn't strike me as especially pretty in person. MR is a really good place - try Jasmin next time, terrific BBBJ and a friendly girl.

Charlie

[Charlie 123]

Thinking of giving La Folie a try-out next week. Pricing is interesting as compared to Artemis. Entry is cheap, champagne (my tipple of preference) is less extortionate than at Artemis, but sex is more expensive apparently. 75E base price, BBBJ extra!

Anybody got any recent experience/intel?

Thx

Charlie

[Tompnis]

Hi Charlie

Saw Maya about a couple of months ago; have been way behind in writing reports on here and am working through more memorable punts. Hope she is just away on hols as she was fun.

I have made a resolution to be more of a contributor rather than a lurker. Thanks for the advice. Will try her out next time.

Incidentally does anyone have any good recent visiting escort advice; sometimes you really can't be arsed to go out (especially as I don't have a car) and it would be great to have someone to visit. Berlin is great for punting but the visiting escort scene from my experience of being here before was woeful. Had some good experiences from girls from KLD (Fiona sticks in the memory) but it is quite pricey (about 200 euros). Other experiences have been dire with the girl being either nothing like on the website or as miserable as sin.

Any advice gratefully accepted.

[Angus Magee]

Thinking of giving La Folie a try-out next week. Pricing is interesting as compared to Artemis. Entry is cheap, champagne (my tipple of preference) is less extortionate than at Artemis, but sex is more expensive apparently. 75E base price, BBBJ extra!

Anybody got any recent experience/intel?

Thx

Charlie

Hi,

No recent experience here but I do follow on Verkehrsberichte.de (a local forum) the La Folie thread. Going by this it seems that the main nationality at LF is Bulgarian with a few Romanians. That and slightly older ('30s) German women. The younger Bulgarians have the reputation for pestering the guests for lady drinks (€21 piccolos of sec) and sitting bored on the couch. The older German ladies seem a better bet but for me hold not so much interest. I think that you can meet a nice lady there but it is by no means guaranteed. On the plus side, it only costs you €14 to fund out who is there. One can always bail and head over the Artemis. The last few times I was there (I think it may be two or more years back) I left both times without a session. The only girl I was remotely interested in was the stripper who did not go to the room with guests. She was a very teenage looking Russian girl who dressed in school girl chic style and sat on a stool oposite me at the bar sucking a lollypop with lipstick smeared lips, and studiously ignored my leers. Old Angus was prepared to empty his wallet for a crack at her but she was not having it.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Incidentally does anyone have any good recent visiting escort advice; sometimes you really can't be arsed to go out (especially as I don't have a car) and it would be great to have someone to visit. Berlin is great for punting but the visiting escort scene from my experience of being here before was woeful. Had some good experiences from girls from KLD (Fiona sticks in the memory) but it is quite pricey (about 200 euros). Other experiences have been dire with the girl being either nothing like on the website or as miserable as sin.

Any advice gratefully accepted.


Hi Tompnis,

If you look back in the Berlin thread there are some pretty decent recommendations regarding escorts. But you will also find my own views on the escort trade in Berlin which is basically that it is not a great option when compared to the brothel/Artemis options.

But reading your post gives me the idea to update & rework all that I currently know about the Berlin escort scene. I will try to do this over the next couple of days and make a post on < www.angusmagee.com > as well as a link to it here.

Regards

AM

[Hardbone]

During a two day stay in Berlin I had the chance to visit Berlins both flatrate brothels King George and Caligula.

King George has the atmosphere where I felt welcome right from the start. The man at the door showed me around in the brothel and after that he took me back to the front door where he collected the flat rate price of 100EUR. I went back in, ordered a drink and it did not take long before a girl came over to me. We had a short talk and decided to go to a room. Then she asked if I would like to take another girl with us to the room. That was not a difficult decision and I went with two hot Romanian girls for a first session. Had a nice session with the two girls and got back to the bar. It did not take long before before my eyes fell on another girl and we went for a new session. Some hours later I had a second session with the same girls but before that I had one more session with another girl and also one more session with two girls. One of those two girls I had again later in the evening. I had a great time with many great girls. The girls were all very friendly and good looking (the pictures of the line up on their web-site is just awful compared with the real line-up) and there was absolutely no problem to get the girl that I was interested in and often the girl even come over to introduce themselves without that I had to try to get their attention. Two regrets I however had, first of all my favorite girl (from my last trip), Claudia was on vacation and then the flatrate price was not so flatrate after all. The girls are friendly but do keep on asking some some more money every now and then and the total damage for the evening was a bit over 200EUR, but still well worth it. All drinks are also free and the bar service is exceptional good. The rate between men and women was also excellent, with maybe about ten girls who did most of the evening outnumber the amount of men.

The next day I went to Caligula hoping that I would have an equally good experience there as I did in King George. The man at the door of Caligula explained the rules (same as in King George) and took the flatrate entrance 100EUR before I had seen the club. When I got in I knew right away that I had made a mistake. There were only two girls in the room and about 20 men. 3 or 4 girl more were with some other men in the rooms, but the rate between men and women were very bad. Here no girls came over to me and it was impossible to get any kind of eye contact with the girls or to call them over. For the first two hours I just sat there, had a few drinks and tried to figure out how the system worked. Here men went over to the dance floor and tried to get a girl off the dance floor to a room often with no success. I watched how an Asian guy asked a girl to go to a room and the girl answered loudly just "no". One of the managers passed by then and started a loudly argument with the girl (in Romanian I think). The girl then a dragged the Asian guy to a room. About 3 minutes later she was done and came back. The Asian guy followed a few minutes later and walked straight out of the club. I thought about doing the same but I had heard that some more girls would arrive soon (at 8pm) so I decided to wait. Indeed some more girls came, all at the same time and I knew that this was the first good chance to actually get a girl. I outran a few other men and got first to a Bulgarian girl while she was just about to get on the dance floor. I managed to get her to a room. Once in the room I realized that that the flatrate was not really a flatrate while I would probably get no good service at all unless I would pay some more. She asked for 20EUR more but for that I got a BBBJ as extra. It was a normal session, but there was nothing special good about it. We got back into the bar and now it looked like it could be possible to find another girl while there was a total of about 10-15 girls working and maybe 30 men. Not a good rate but it could be worse. I was thinking about who could be my second girl, when the first girl came back and took me with her to a room. The reason was that she just wanted to sleep for 20 minutes. The 20 minutes with a beautiful girl in my arms passed quickly and back in the bar I noticed that the amount of men was increasing and the girls got more tired. I picked a second girl who made it quite clear that she had no interest in going to any room but she did it anyway. The 20EUR extra for a BBBJ did not sound to be negotiable, so I payed again. She rushed through the session and back in the bar I noticed that the rate of men per women was now very bad. I tried to get a few girls with no luck but finally a sweet Romanian girl said yes. The 20EUR extra for BBBJ happened again and the session was ok but a bit too rushed. Now I think there were more than 50 men in the bar and it was about 10pm. The girls were all overworked and very uninterested in having any more sex. Normally there was about 3 girls available in the bar with 50 men trying to get them, just awful. I noticed that not many managed to find a new girl. The girls turned down most men and then in the end they went to some man that they knew from before, somebody that they knew that would be nice and who would agree to pay more. The last girl that I had, came back to me around midnight and asked if I would like to go to a room. I was not really so interested in doing a session with her again but knowing my poor chances of finding a new girl I decided to go with her. Again 20EUR extra and a very similar session as the last one. Got back to the bar where about 50 men were waiting and the girls so busy that there were moments when not a single girl could be seen in the bar or on the dance floor. I had a few drinks and talked to some guys while there was really nothing else to do. Around 2am the same girl came back to me to take me to a room for a third time. That was not what I was waiting for but sitting in a flatrate brothel where finding a girl seems to be impossible had made me horny, so I went with her. This time she absolutely demanded that I would stay for an hour (she was too tired to get back to the bar full of men) but that would cost me 50EUR more. Knowing that this would for sure be the last chance to have sex that night I agreed and payed, then she asked for 20EUR more for the BBBJ and then for 10EUR more for who knows what...(so much for flatrate). We had some good sex and this time more relaxed. She told me that she would be there until 5am and she confirmed when I asked that there would still be just as many men in the club at 5am when they would be closing. At 3am I left Caligula being 100% sure that I will never return.

Some facts:

King George:
-About 8-10 friendly girls
-About 5-10 men
-Excellent service at the bar
-Good and clean rooms with showers than all girl and also I used after every session
-Possible to get 2 girls at the same time
-The girls are better looking that on their web-site
-Mostly Romanian girls and at least one Hungarian and one Austrian
-Expect girl to ask if you can give them an extra 10EUR

Caligula:
-About 10-15 overworked girls
-About 50 men or more
-You do get your drinks in the bar, sometimes it just take a few minutes
-The most filthy and dirty rooms I have ever seen (no shower, not even a chair to put your clothes on so just throw them on the floor that is covered with so much dirt that it is hard to see what color the floor has)
-Between 8pm and 9pm you might get a new girl with you to a room but between 6pm-8pm and after 10pm you should be very lucky to find a free and willing girl.
-The girls are better looking that on their web-site
-Mostly Romanian girls and at least one Bulgarian
-Expect to pay at least 20EUR (even though the list price here is 10EUR for BBBJ) extra for a BBBJ if you want to get any kind of service in this club. After 1am the girl mostly do only 1 hour session (for 50EUR extra) with men that they already know

[Angus Magee]

During a two day stay in Berlin I had the chance to visit Berlins both flatrate brothels King George and Caligula.


Excellent, excellent post Hardbone! What can I say. This could be the report of the year so far on the Berlin thread. To have the clubs so closely compared, back to back, is gold, pure gold. It goes without saying that this report is posted in the RofD thread.

Many thanks HB and two thumbs up.

AM

[Angus Magee]

I have the new escort post up now on the blog.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=219

As I try to keep blog posts to under 2000 words I have had to divide it up unto Low End, Mid & High End and Indy. Today I posted low end. I hope to have the rest posted by the end of the week. But my computer needs a little professional attention. I will be taking it into the service store today or tomorrow. My on line presence then depends upon my being able to borrow one for the week.

AM

[Sam662]

I am considering paying a visit to Sandra: www.klassemodell.de.

Has anyone got any experience with this lady?

Sam

[Angus Magee]

I have to admit that I had a moment yesterday thinking about HB's report when I thought maybe it was a report made by the management at KG trashing Caligula and talking up the KG. But then I had a look at HBs post history which is short but contains info on some other topics. I also walked by the KG yesterday evening and as is often the case n a warm evening there were a couple of girls and the owner hanging around on the street. A short chat revealed that they are indeed very friendly and relaxed, seemingly very eager for business.

In short I decided that HB's report is very genuine and accurately shows the vast difference between the two places. Sorry HB, I do not mean any disrespect with my suspicious mind. It was just that the two establishments by your report seem like night day and one has to wonder these days on the internet.

I may well make a personal visit one of these warm evenings and see for myself. Your visit, even with the extra payments you made, seems to be well worth the money.

AM

[Hardbone]

I have to admit that I had a moment yesterday thinking about HB's report when I thought maybe it was a report made by the management at KG trashing Caligula and talking up the KG. But then I had a look at HBs post history which is short but contains info on some other topics. I also walked by the KG yesterday evening and as is often the case n a warm evening there were a couple of girls and the owner hanging around on the street. A short chat revealed that they are indeed very friendly and relaxed, seemingly very eager for business.

In short I decided that HB's report is very genuine and accurately shows the vast difference between the two places. Sorry HB, I do not mean any disrespect with my suspicious mind. It was just that the two establishments by your report seem like night day and one has to wonder these days on the internet.

I may well make a personal visit one of these warm evenings and see for myself. Your visit, even with the extra payments you made, seems to be well worth the money.

AMYes is it a genuine report. My history here is short while I mostly hang around at some other sites, especially "ignatzmice" (under the user name "makelove" with lots of reports) where I remember that you AM made a short appearance some month ago. My intention was not to trash Caligulas reputation but I reported what I felt. I visited KG on a Friday (which should normally be busy) and I visited Caligula on a Saturday (which is probably the most busy day). I would love to read a report from somebody else from Caligula, while the only real big problem was the very bad rate between men and women. Maybe it would be a lot better if visited on for example a Monday evening.

[Charlie 123]

Hi,

http://www.escort-sex24.de/natalie

Just finished 5 minutes ago with this very shapely blonde.

She arrived punctually, derives from Poland/Ukraine, is probably mid 20's plus, not quite as pretty as her pics would suggest but sexy enough. Speaks Deutsch, Russian, Polish but no real English. She seemed nervous at first (understandably) but opened up.

Nice service, DFK, good BBBJ, cowgirl followed by more BJ. Nice tight pussy. Put her on her back and after less than 5 minutes of my thrusting whilst she slapped her pelvis upwards I came inside her. Didn't get to test whether any of the other advertised services such as GB were genuinely available and included in the basic price, but I suspect they were. Sex lasted about 20 minutes in total whereupon she gave me a 10 minute massage and left. I had no interest in struggling to do it again with her during the remaining time so I don't know whether a 2nd round would've been on the agenda had I desired it.

A very nice punt all round. Everything exactly as advertised. Nice enough girl, sexy body, sweet face, good attitude, excellent delivery.

I think that this is very probably an honest and reliable agency. I will probably give their other available girl (Paris) a spin later in the week just to be sure!

Recommended

Charlie

[Tompnis]

Hello, Angus

Top info! I really look forward to your info on the mid-price level. I have to say I do feel uncomfortable at the low price end for the potential exploitation issue. Had a couple of really bad experiences at the 80-100 euro level and vowed never again (the glorious exception to this was the Hautnah girls).

Just doing the maths, as you indicate, reveals that the girls probably get to keep very little of the money and work pretty long hours etc etc. Anyway, not for me.

[Angus Magee]

Hello, Angus

Top info! I really look forward to your info on the mid-price level. I have to say I do feel uncomfortable at the low price end for the potential exploitation issue. Had a couple of really bad experiences at the 80-100 euro level and vowed never again (the glorious exception to this was the Hautnah girls).

Just doing the maths, as you indicate, reveals that the girls probably get to keep very little of the money and work pretty long hours etc etc. Anyway, not for me.


Glad you find it useful. I am currently working on the second part but it is not easy with all my bookmarks stored on my computer which is in for repair. I definitely have to look at setting up on line book mark storage for such an occasion.

But I will do the best I can from memory & searching and have it posted in the near future.

AM

[Bearsk]

Excellent field work Charlie. From the pictures, Paris would more to my taste, so do report.


Hi,

http://www.escort-sex24.de/natalie

A very nice punt all round. Everything exactly as advertised. Nice enough girl, sexy body, sweet face, good attitude, excellent delivery.

I think that this is very probably an honest and reliable agency. I will probably give their other available girl (Paris) a spin later in the week just to be sure!

Recommended

Charlie

[Charlie 123]

Hello, Angus

Top info! I really look forward to your info on the mid-price level. I have to say I do feel uncomfortable at the low price end for the potential exploitation issue. Had a couple of really bad experiences at the 80-100 euro level and vowed never again (the glorious exception to this was the Hautnah girls).

Just doing the maths, as you indicate, reveals that the girls probably get to keep very little of the money and work pretty long hours etc etc. Anyway, not for me.I sympathise with the sentiment behind your comments, but I'm not sure that a blanket embargo is warranted.

I think that these things vary from agency to agency, and retail price is not always the best determinant of a girl's independence and complicity. I think one gets a better feel of which girls are being exploited and which are not from reading reviews and judging the demeanour of the girls themselves. (Of course one could argue that 'trying them out to assess their demeanour' involves already participating in their suffrage, and that by the time one decides to desist it is already too late)

I am relatively confident that the 'klein und zierlich girls' are generally-speaking free agents, and I suspect the same applies to the firm I reported on yesterday. I'm sure that there are indeed plenty who are being exploited in the manner you refer to, and I'm sure Artemis and similar FKK's have their share too, but the only way to have a totally clear conscience is to avoid P4P altogether.

Charlie

[Charlie 123]

http://www.monrouge.de/sibil.html

Sybil is probably the 9th or 10th girl that I've sampled from this excellent bordello, and one of the best. Especially gratifying to finds standards being maintained after last week's disappointing encounter (reported previously on this forum)

Chose from a line-up of 4. Super physique, slim, huge tits (enhanced), soft skin, angular facial features. Says she's 27 - looks older (but I have no reason to disbelieve her). Classic MILF appearance. Nice girl too. Speaks no English.

Offers most services, but won't do CiM although GB was included in the price (unusually). Half-hour was 70E + 30E for BJ ohne + 10 kissing = 110E.

Her BJ was really terrific, slow and sexy with just the right level of hand pressure and lots of ball-licking and lovely eye-contact. The fact that facially she is a dead ringer for my best friend's somewhat prissy wife did not in any way detract from the experience!! A really nice performance for about 20 minutes, with a happy ending right in her face.

A definite repeat for me, and highly recommended for MILF lovers

Charlie

[Angus Magee]

I sympathise with the sentiment behind your comments, but I'm not sure that a blanket embargo is warranted.

I think that these things vary from agency to agency, and retail price is not always the best determinant of a girl's independence and complicity. I think one gets a better feel of which girls are being exploited and which are not from reading reviews and judging the demeanour of the girls themselves. (Of course one could argue that 'trying them out to assess their demeanour' involves already participating in their suffrage, and that by the time one decides to desist it is already too late)

I am relatively confident that the 'klein und zierlich girls' are generally-speaking free agents, and I suspect the same applies to the firm I reported on yesterday. I'm sure that there are indeed plenty who are being exploited in the manner you refer to, and I'm sure Artemis and similar FKK's have their share too, but the only way to have a totally clear conscience is to avoid P4P altogether.

Charlie

I have to agree here with Charlie and I hope that my comments in my blog post did not indicate that all escorts at this level are being exploited as sex slaves, for I do not believe this to be the case. It is merely to be pointed out that at this price the girl is not making huge amounts of money for little work. She must do multiple sessions per night and this must be realized if you are to have a good time. As I say on the blog, book your session early, not drunkenly at 03:00 a.m..

Bottom line is the feeling you get from the girl. As those who experienced a session with the defunct Hautnah agency girls know, the girls always arrived relatively fresh & happy on time. Thus agency was doing something right. And as Charlie points out the KZ agency seems to have taken up the Hautnah gauntlet nicely.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Just published the Berlin Escort Guide, mid to highend on Angus' blog.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=237

Next up, a short view of the indy scene.

AM

[Vompat]

Arrived with my 3 friend 8 am. Called www.Thaimodelle.de but they said that only 2 ladies present and they are not young.

Took a taxi to Tiffany, were there exactly at 10 am, the place was nice, they had 3 girls present, we had them all and beautyful brunette, Katja twice, guys were very happy with her, other friend took small blond Pia, was happy, I had tall Polish blond (Janina?), and was delighted, I could swear she had an orgasm out of my licking or then she is a great actor.

3 pm I went to Liberty, had a brunette whos name I forgot, nothing special, the line up was disappointment, maybe 3 girls all in all.

In the evening we went to Galicula, this is a place to avoid (like told here before). Had 2 girls, ok looking, but had to qeue a long time, ratio maybe 10/1. Free booze did not compensate lot.

Will continue soon in Artemis thread and come back here for day 3.

[Tompnis]

As always top info Angus.

I have used the KLD escort service several times (seen about four girls). Ones I remember are Fiona and Cora. To my shame I cannot remember the other girls' names. All very professionally handled. Girls arrived on time, great service etc. To be fair exactly what you exprect from KLD. Also ther booking service was very smooth. I speak limited German but the ladies on the phone all spoke wonderful English. They also ask you what sort of girl you want, what sort of service you are looking for etc and try to match this up (worked in my experience). One point is that I found you need to give a bit more notice than one of the escort only agencies; on the odd occasion I have phoned up on the off-chance to KLD I have found no one was available.

Re Mon Rouge, I haven't tried them but when Maya is back may give this a go as she is a great punt. Professional, kind of hardened in the business but gives a great service.

[Joy Rider2008]

Hi,

Long time reader, first time poster/reviewer. For the last few months I've been going to see Alicia from Lady M in Charlottenburg. Previously she was in Mitte but has now moved. She is in her early 20s, dark hair, Polish with a sexy body. She offers most services and one time we even showered together before the session - well recommended!

Would love to keep her to myself :-)

http://www.ladym-eroticevent.com/de/damen/alicia.htm

[Angus Magee]

Hi,

Long time reader, first time poster/reviewer. For the last few months I've been going to see Alicia from Lady M in Charlottenburg. Previously she was in Mitte but has now moved. She is in her early 20s, dark hair, Polish with a sexy body. She offers most services and one time we even showered together before the session - well recommended!

Would love to keep her to myself :-)

http://www.ladym-eroticevent.com/de/damen/alicia.htm


Thanks for making your first report Joy Rider. And an interesting one too. I have never in all my years in Berlin seen or heard of this bordello.

A couple of questions. Is there a location for this bordello or did you do a home visit. From the website they do seem to indicate that both are available but give no clue as to the in call address.

And what do you pay for the session. The website gives some prices for house visits (pretty expensive I might add) but gives no price for a bordello visit. Yet they do seem to indicate that bordello visits are available.

Thanks for any clarification.

AM

[Mike Ph]

Visited Tiffanys today and saw Anna, cute, English speaking 26. Opted for a 40 minute session for two pops and kussen but ended up with a near fight. It was a total turn off. She didn't deliver as agreed. Wasn't into it at all from the first second.

In this hobby YMMV but I though I should warn the dudes! Will report back on other encounters.

http://www.Ritter11. De/bordell-girls/anna.php

MP

[Mike Ph]

Are the independant girls the best bet around here, or should one stick with the bordellos?


Just published the Berlin Escort Guide, mid to highend on Angus' blog.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=237

Next up, a short view of the indy scene.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Are the independant girls the best bet around here, or should one stick with the bordellos?


Sorry you will not get a straight yes or no answer to this question from me, It really does depend on you-and a number of factors which I will cover in the next blog post.

But generally I feel that for a visitor, unless he has a lot of time and an adventurous spirit, the bordellos are a better bet to get your itch scratched. It is simply less complicated.

[Angus Magee]

I came across this one today and thought it pretty useful. It is a large map with pretty much all the Berlin brothels and massage places marked with a heart. Click the heart and a small window opens with details such as address and web link. You can also zoom to get further direction details on the map. I know one like this was put together sometime back on google maps but this one is pretty complete.

http://karte.berlin-platz.de/?amenity=brothel

AM

[JohnThomas0519]

Just published the Berlin Escort Guide, mid to highend on Angus' blog.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=237

Next up, a short view of the indy scene.

AMWould like to share my one unusual but not uncommon encounter a couple of years ago. Had a session with one of the young ladies at VK. Suggested we meet the next day at my hotel. She demurred as she was supposed to spend the Saturday PM visiting her mother but did agree to call me.

Long and short of it, I managed to persuade to spend three hours at my hotel for 350 eruos. It was not cheap but having someone I already boned at my hotel with all of its advantages seemed worth it. Along with some unrushed intimacy, I learned a little bit moare about her and her colleagues. Seems a number of them are truly part timers.

Thought my fellow mongers might like to know that with a little chemistry and the right offer, you can arrage for a take out from VM without management taking a cut.

Appreciate AM's enlightening posts. He is definitely one of my mentors/heroes on ISG.

[Vicifranck]

A quick sex report (July-August)

day 1: Artemis

Marina: Nice Russian MILF. Good BBBJ in kino

day 2 :: Van Kampen. 7 pm

7 girls came to shake my hand

Steffi: a new German cutie (pictures on www.Vankampenberlin.de)

18 yo announced on the site. Yes, very fresh pussy and perfect ass. A little bit shy but gentle and smiling. I take the BBBJ extra (20 €). DATY extra is also possible.

It worth noting the honesty of VK. On the site it is written that the girl is inexperienced and so.

As a veteran monger I immediatly saw that. So, don't ask for too much passion, be patient and focus on the idea that you are fucking a quasi teenager. Yes, Yes. Old pigs you are!

Good meeting

day 3: Kamila Dee. 5 pm

June, Marie, Vickie, Marion. (Black) and?

Ok with Marie, ah not possible. Wanted a 40 mn session, but for Marie it was the end of the workinf day (only 30 mn possible). Leave the place (Humm. Was Marie really a good choice? Not sure) without take another girl. I ve no read terrific things about Vicky and June.

day 4:

Ekstase massage. 5 pm

Sophia: www.Ekstasemassage. De/html/sophia.html

60 mn (90 Euros)

Very cute girl (21 yo). Sympatic. But hard to touch is pussy. I come on my way!

Monrouge:

Pretty girls. Pretty place.

What? Extras are 30 Euros! I leave. I am a little bit tired of Extras!

No extra I want to pay.come back to Artemis!

day 5 : Artemis 5 pm to 12

Lekkie: Very nice thai girl (see reports on ARTEMIS thread) expert in massage and others stuff.

Ella: small blond Russian. Pretty face. Fake boobs. Age? French kiss and ball licking (I love it!) in the Kino

"Rossy" (not sure of the name): Nice Czech from Brno. I fucked her in the Kino too.

Safina: Young blond german girl with voluptuous shape. My best Artemis meeting this night. Very sympatic. In zimmer.

day 6:

Royal. 4 pm

8 pretty girls

Samira: www.Bordell-berlin. To/luxusbordell/samira.html

Nice Greek girl.come back to Extras! 20 Euros for BBBJ and 20 Euros for kissing. The last was not justified. Sympatic but lack of passion.

[Spec20]

Thanks, Charlie, for the heads up on http://www.escort-sex24.de! I was looking for a trustworthy escort agency. So I decided to try Paris.

Booked a few hours in advance. A lady answered the phone and quickly accepted the booking. Nearer the time I got a phone call that the girl arrived early, and if it's ok for her to come up.

A couple of minutes later, I get a knock on the door, and there is the gorgeous Paris. Amazing girl - very tall, with a great figure, in a pretty dress, and rather confident. I was the one who was nervous, as I don't have much experience with escorts.

After a drink and a little chat, she did a little striptease and then we got down to business. DFK, BBBJ were all on offer, and then I asked her to turn around and pounded her doggie style. When I finally came, we both were exhausted (or at least I was, and she gave a very good impression). So just lay there chatting, and cuddling. A true GFE!

I then asked for a massage, which she also did very well. By that time my member was asking for more, so I asked for another BJ (although she offered sex as well). Unfortunately, it usually takes me a rather long time to cum, so in the middle of it her alarm went off. She tried very hard to finish me off, but I decided not to bother anymore, so let her take a shower. By the way, at the very start she warned me that she doesn't do CIM, which was fine by me.

All in all, I had a really good time, it was really like being with girlfriend. In terms of looks, she is even better than in the pictures. The breasts are nice and firm, and the body is nicely tanned. She takes very good care of herself. The only downside is that she has a few patches on the body where the skin lost its pigmentation, so in contrast to the otherwise tanned skin they are visible. She says this was due to stress in high school. However this does not really tarnish her good looks. Moreover, her friendly and open attitude makes her even more attractive.

By the way, I conversed with her mostly in German, which she knows pretty well, but she says she understands English, but finds it more difficult to speak. She also knows some Russian, and understands some Italian. Of course her native tongue is Polish. She says she is 23, and I tend to believe her.

Highly recommended so treat her well, gentlemen!


Hi,

http://www.escort-sex24.de/natalie

Just finished 5 minutes ago with this very shapely blonde.

She arrived punctually, derives from Poland/Ukraine, is probably mid 20's plus, not quite as pretty as her pics would suggest but sexy enough. Speaks Deutsch, Russian, Polish but no real English. She seemed nervous at first (understandably) but opened up.

Nice service, DFK, good BBBJ, cowgirl followed by more BJ. Nice tight pussy. Put her on her back and after less than 5 minutes of my thrusting whilst she slapped her pelvis upwards I came inside her. Didn't get to test whether any of the other advertised services such as GB were genuinely available and included in the basic price, but I suspect they were. Sex lasted about 20 minutes in total whereupon she gave me a 10 minute massage and left. I had no interest in struggling to do it again with her during the remaining time so I don't know whether a 2nd round would've been on the agenda had I desired it.

A very nice punt all round. Everything exactly as advertised. Nice enough girl, sexy body, sweet face, good attitude, excellent delivery.

I think that this is very probably an honest and reliable agency. I will probably give their other available girl (Paris) a spin later in the week just to be sure!

Recommended

Charlie

[Angus Magee]

Would like to share my one unusual but not uncommon encounter a couple of years ago. Had a session with one of the young ladies at VK. Suggested we meet the next day at my hotel. She demurred as she was supposed to spend the Saturday PM visiting her mother but did agree to call me.

Long and short of it, I managed to persuade to spend three hours at my hotel for 350 eruos. It was not cheap but having someone I already boned at my hotel with all of its advantages seemed worth it. Along with some unrushed intimacy, I learned a little bit moare about her and her colleagues. Seems a number of them are truly part timers.

Thought my fellow mongers might like to know that with a little chemistry and the right offer, you can arrage for a take out from VM without management taking a cut..


Thanks JT for the report. And I do agree that the scenario you describe is well with in the realm of possibility of you are polite, generous and discreet. Especially the last one as the girl does put a bit on the line when doing this. Many bordellos would not appreciate being cut out of the equation and the girl could lose her job if it came out to the bordello that she is cutting deals on the side. So as you have done, I recommend not reporting by name the girls with whom you have made an arrangement such as this. This may seem obvious, but does not hurt to be stated. Also it must be noted that this will be easier if you are in a hotel. Unless you do multiple sessions with a girl, and she comes to trust you, a hotel is much more neutral ground than a private residence. I myself had a very nice long home visit from a KD girl a couple of years back. Preceding this was at least a half dozen bordello visits in which we got to know each other.


Appreciate AM's enlightening posts. He is definitely one of my mentors/heroes on ISG.

Nice to be a hero;) I wonder if I have any super powers?

[Charlie 123]

Thanks, Charlie, for the heads up on http://www.escort-sex24.de! I was looking for a trustworthy escort agency. So I decided to try Paris.

Booked a few hours in advance. A lady answered the phone and quickly accepted the booking. Nearer the time I got a phone call that the girl arrived early, and if it's ok for her to come up.

A couple of minutes later, I get a knock on the door, and there is the gorgeous Paris. Amazing girl - very tall, with a great figure, in a pretty dress, and rather confident. I was the one who was nervous, as I don't have much experience with escorts.

After a drink and a little chat, she did a little striptease and then we got down to business. DFK, BBBJ were all on offer, and then I asked her to turn around and pounded her doggie style. When I finally came, we both were exhausted (or at least I was, and she gave a very good impression). So just lay there chatting, and cuddling. A true GFE!

I then asked for a massage, which she also did very well. By that time my member was asking for more, so I asked for another BJ (although she offered sex as well). Unfortunately, it usually takes me a rather long time to cum, so in the middle of it her alarm went off. She tried very hard to finish me off, but I decided not to bother anymore, so let her take a shower. By the way, at the very start she warned me that she doesn't do CIM, which was fine by me.

All in all, I had a really good time, it was really like being with girlfriend. In terms of looks, she is even better than in the pictures. The breasts are nice and firm, and the body is nicely tanned. She takes very good care of herself. The only downside is that she has a few patches on the body where the skin lost its pigmentation, so in contrast to the otherwise tanned skin they are visible. She says this was due to stress in high school. However this does not really tarnish her good looks. Moreover, her friendly and open attitude makes her even more attractive.

By the way, I conversed with her mostly in German, which she knows pretty well, but she says she understands English, but finds it more difficult to speak. She also knows some Russian, and understands some Italian. Of course her native tongue is Polish. She says she is 23, and I tend to believe her.

Highly recommended so treat her well, gentlemen!Hi Spec.

Thanks for the report. I am pleased to see that my good experience with this agency was replicated in your own outing. I was intending to give Paris her 'ISG debut', but you beat me to it! Now that I have your good recommendation to hand, I will definitely give her a spin this week.

Thanks and keep posting.

Charlie

[Foss]

I came across this one today and thought it pretty useful. It is a large map with pretty much all the Berlin brothels and massage places marked with a heart. Click the heart and a small window opens with details such as address and web link. You can also zoom to get further direction details on the map. I know one like this was put together sometime back on google maps but this one is pretty complete.

http://karte.berlin-platz.de/?amenity=brothel

AM


Thanks! what a good reference.

Do you (or anybody) know if there is a similar map for asian/thai massage parlours?

happy mongering!
foss

[Vompat]

I was in a mongering trip with 3 of my friends.

1 of my friends love this place:

http://www.Celine-69. De/gallery.html

Pestalozzistraße 69

10627 Berlin, Germany

Which was in the backyard of our hotel, so he went there first thing in the morning. Actually he was there everyday, line up is, well, older.

Another friend of mine went back to Artermis just to see Elisa, he fell in love with her.

Me and my other friend took a taksi to Van Kampen, http://www.Vankampenberlin. De/ and was very impressed about the line up. Picked Naomi, 24 year old half african, half ukrainian, 180 cm tall beautyful girl. Can't get her smile out of my face.

Attitude 10

Body 10

Face 10 +

She was not so experienced, could not even put a condom on, but I would say was one of the best experiences ever.

Please, be nice to her (never said this before).

1400 our flight left, so that was it, will get back to Berlin forum next summer, hopefully.

[Angus Magee]

Thanks! what a good reference.

Do you (or anybody) know if there is a similar map for asian/thai massage parlours?

happy mongering!
foss


Not a map but there is this list on a German website called Farang dot de

http://www.farang.de/thaimassagen.html

But this list may contain some massage places that are more legit massage. That is not all may offer extra services. As far as I know almost all Thai massage in Berlin will include a happy ending hand job. At least the places that do not are in the minority. But not all places offer such services as bj. I am not really up on how it all works as Thai massage is not my thing really.

But I can say that anytime I have had a Thai massage here in Berlin, and always because I needed the massage, I was offered (an accepted) a finishing hand job at no extra cost. €50 for the hour seems to be standard.

If someone had the juice for it they could always set up a google map with the locations marked. I sure don't

AM

[Angus Magee]

Angusmagee blog was moved (rather the servers where the blog lives) yesterday. During the day for a number of hours I was off line. All was supposed to be fine by evening but there do appear to be a few problems with the new server network. My friend who runs the servers is working on it but over the next days there may well be more times when the blog goes off line. If you can not connect, just try back later.

Thanks for you patience.

Angus

(this is killing my stats for August...)

[Angus Magee]

Things seem to have stabilized the past 12 hours on the servers so I have published today the third and final installment in the Berlin escort series, the indy scene.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=253

Have a look, comments welcome.

AM

[Foss]

Not a map but there is this list on a German website called Farang dot de

http://www.farang.de/thaimassagen.html

But this list may contain some massage places that are more legit massage. That is not all may offer extra services. As far as I know almost all Thai massage in Berlin will include a happy ending hand job. At least the places that do not are in the minority. But not all places offer such services as bj. I am not really up on how it all works as Thai massage is not my thing really.

But I can say that anytime I have had a Thai massage here in Berlin, and always because I needed the massage, I was offered (an accepted) a finishing hand job at no extra cost. €50 for the hour seems to be standard.

If someone had the juice for it they could always set up a google map with the locations marked. I sure don't

AM

thanks - i will check out the farang website and maybee i will find the juice to do a google massage map! cheers

[Bobo.fr]

1) as i knew that i would have to stay for around 60 hours in berlin, i sent email to kd, 9 days before my arrival, for a meeting with one of her ladies : so, i expected to have one meeting with her, at least.
after spending around 30 hours in berlin, i was informed that no meeting would be possible (actually, earlier, in the morning, i was proposed a (no longer than) 45 minutes meeting !)
so, more than 1 week of preparation for zero meeting : 100% failure.

as i was completely dazed, frustrated and exhausted of this failure, i wanted to have a relaxing massage that would make me feel more «*confortable*». i realized that i didn't have any adress for a real good massage (not erotic, nor tantra) so i abandonned the idea and thought about an alternative to kd. i remembered that angus wrote that royal had beautiful rooms and furthermore it's not so far from kd. so i decided to visit this house even if i didn't have so much information about the ladies who worked there.

2) the adress is bundesplatz 8.
ubahn u9, station bundesplatz, there is an exit «*bundesplatz*». outside of this exit, royal should be behind us, where there is a bank agency. when the front door is opened, we should take the first stairs on our left, up to 2nd floor. a young english spoken housekeeper introduced me into a room and as in kd,one by one, the ladies introduced themselves to me : i thought the lady who stayed with me was nele ( .http://www.bordell-berlin.to/luxusbordell/nele.html )
she began to give me a massage and, if i understood well, her «*regular*» job had connection with therapeutic massage too.
for kissing, she asked for extras. after some personal experiences, one of my personal rules was that not to pay for kissing but that day was a special day, i was so dazed and disppointed that i preferred to pay extras to optimize the conditions for my wellness : of course, as that should usually happenned with paying kisses, i got some unpassionate kisses , feeling probably some millimeters of her tongue. but except these kisses, she listened to my desires and really wanted to make me feel good. i think that a new meeting with her should be better because at the end of the meeting she was less tense than at the beginning ; by the way, i realized that i might be the cause of her tension when she told me something like «*you smile now !*» : probably i arrived at royal with my disappointed «*100% failure*» face that could not make her feel relaxed !!

3) this failure in bookings points out the fact that i should prepare a «*plan b*» (for the next times )
a) who can advise me a «*house*» that proposes bookings («*escort*») but the meetings may take place in its local ? where there are no extras for kissing and where the ladies do not practise cim ? a house where the risk of having links with «*mafia*» or other slaves-trading organizations is low ?
b) for no-sex (non erotic, nor tantra) massage, does anybody know some adresses ? can i find a sauna there ?
c) does anybody know other forums (probably in german but i will use an on-line translator) where i can get information about these houses and especially about ladies working in these houses ?
thanks

[Angus Magee]

hi bobo,

guess who ;)

i will try to answer some of your questions but first to your kd disappointment. it is not so clear from your post the circumstances surrounding the failure. did you feel that the kd booking girl (hausmutti) mislead you as to the girl's availability? or did it feel more like the girl you booked just did not show as she was supposed to. if the later it is understandable and has happened to me once or twice at kd. these girl carry on complicated lives sometimes and especially a younger girl is not always so dependable. i do feel that kd as a reputable bordello will eventually weed out a really undependable girl, but an occasion non show is by me understandable. that you, a man who comes from out of town and is in anticipation of his pleasure, got disappointed is regrettable. in tis game though, it does happen.

if you feel mislead, and can present a valid & reasonable argument why, i really do recommend that you write an email to discuss this with kd. keep it balanced, point out our usual satisfaction with the place and even the fact of your very regular patronage, without seeming like you use it as a lever, if that makes sense. if you were mislead and can point out, reasonably why, it would not surprise me at all if you get some satisfaction. i mean you could get a reduced rate for a return visit.

i say this as i have seen such a thing on the german forum i visit (more later on this) in which a german monger and regular of kd had a sub standard session with a girl. she was a new arrival and apparently her inexperience really showed. she also tried to bluff her way through and not follow through on the usual kd excellence of service. this man took it up with management and was offered a reduced rate on his next session. i am not 100% sure but i think that the house absorbed their fee on his return and he paid only the girl’s (a different one) fee.

now that i think of it, and this part i am really not sure as it was some months back and my memory of it is sketchy at best. remember that i read all this on a german forum (with translator but still...) and i may not have got all the details correct. however, as i remember he did not even complain straight to the management, rather he wrote a fair, balanced report on the forum describing his session. the kd management, who apparently read the forum, then contacted him through the forum and offered him the discount as long as he could prove who he was somehow.
this did impress me even considering that kd obviously knew it was doing some pretty good pr and damage control on the forum. they are regular contributors on this forum and often announce new girls there.

so that all is a rather longwinded way of saying-if you feel slighted, make some noise in a polite way. you never know...


3) this failure in bookings points out the fact that i should prepare a «*plan b*» (for the next times )


always have a plan b. especially if you come from out of town with limited time etc.


a) who can advise me a «*house*» that proposes bookings («*escort*») but the meetings may take place in its local ? where there are no extras for kissing and where the ladies do not practise cim ? a house where the risk of having links with «*mafia*» or other slaves-trading organizations is low ?

i am not entirely sure what exactly you are looking for here. i can certainly recommend liberty as a fine bordello, a little cheaper than kd but with a fine atmosphere and generally top women. but dud sessions are not unheard of here. just i myself have experienced very few (maybe one or two of a couple dozen). i do seem to have developed a knack for choosing off the website. however, many of the women at liberty do cim. not all, but many.

to tell the truth i am doubtful that you will find a place that does not do, as policy, cim, except of course, kd. cim is pretty basic service for most guys and it is only kd’s normally stellar rep that allows them to operate fully covered sessions.

as for the mafia connection, unless you head on over to neuköln, i think you find it hard to find a place that is connected with organized crime. certainly kd, liberty, sp, vk and royal (all the bigger bordellos that is) i can not imagine this connection being there. mon rouge could be connected but i doubt it. it just has that slightly seedier feel to it ime and many girls from bulgaria/romania. there is also odette in tiergarten.

http://www.odetteberlin.de/

this appears a very upscale place and indeed the prices are even higher than kd. but id you read the website it appears that this is an all inclusive price with kissing, cim and maybe even anal for some girls.

if you get tempted by bel ami, know that one girl i knew well told me that it is a very expensive place, the girls are well paid and top models. but to work there they more or less have to do bbfs with some very well heeled clients who are willing to pay very high prices for this service. this is by no means fact (in that i experienced it) but told to me by a girl who had no reason to lie to me.



b) for no-sex (non erotic, nor tantra) massage, does anybody know some adresses ? can i find a sauna there ?

could you not go to any good massage parlor and ask for a nonsexual massage with sauna? why would they turn you down? ekstase is said to be good. harmonie also.

http://www.ekstase-massage.de/html/team.html
http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/

for good non sexual spa with massage therapists on staff try the liquidrom.

http://www.liquidrom-berlin.de/de/

it is a very nice place



c) does anybody know other forums (probably in german but i will use an on-line translator) where i can get information about these houses and especially about ladies working in these houses ?
thanks

verkehrsberichte is the best i know of. you might have to sign up with the age protector service used in germany. it is possible to join without (i joined, i do not own a cc) but as i remember very difficult. try joining late at night (03:00 a.m.) to get round the age check thing. but if you are here a lot and want the local buzz, this is where to find it. the forum is very “german”, meaning that the mods get very upset if you happen to post a question in the report section (ve must follow za rulzzzz!), but over all,while no isg, i is a good forum

http://www.verkehrsberichte.de/wb/index.php?page=index

hope this helps. i am too tired to proof read it so sorry for typos

am

[Bobo.fr]

Thanks Angus for your quick answer

1) First failure with KD
I'm fan of KD for years and it's just a first failure.
I'm sure that Kira did what she could so, if she reads this post I would like to confirm that I appreciate her "last chance" attempts and I'm not angry, just really disappointed.
I think I would be less dazed (ans disappointed) if I was informed before my arrival (or at my arrival) that the meeting would be impossible : for example, I know that meetings with Viola would be impossible (because she's not in Berlin), meetings with Cora and June would be impossible because they didn't want (the "official" (and probably "diplomatical") cause was that they practised "bizaar" games only).

I was not lucky because apparently the only day the lady I asked for was not busy in her own life was the day she was completely busy at Text&Form (so why I was proposed for a "no longer than 45 minutes" meeting by Text&Form) and apparently she had to finish her "day" around 20:00 (instead of 17:00) certainly with her local regular clients.

I don't know how is the internal organization of KD but it seems that there are two "services" : "Text&Form" service and "escort" service ; and I feel that they seem to work separately so "navigating" between two services will consumate time and so make us miss more opportunities. Furthermore , I met more often than in the past housekeepers who seemed talking only German and some ladies who helped them in answering phone calls didn't want to spend too much time in organizing meetings for her colleague !!

2) Mon Rouge
I had a doubt too because , according to its web site, I saw so many Bulgarian and Romanian ladies who work there.

3) Belami
It looks like a saunaclub where clients meet other clients.

4) Furthermore I really prefer to kiss ladies who did not practise CIM before (I know many French guys like that but I'm not French born :-) !!!)

[Angus Magee]

There is also Odette in Tiergarten.

http://www.odetteberlin.de/

This appears a very upscale place and indeed the prices are even higher than KD. But id you read the website it appears that this is an all inclusive price with kissing, cim and maybe even anal for some girls.


I had a closer look at the webpage and it seems I am wrong. The prices for Odette are high and inclusive of just the normal services. Well,bbbj (no cim) is included but FT, Anal etc. are charged extra at higher than standard price. So this place sets a new high mark for prices. I wonder if their standards justify this? Many of the girls look nice enough but it seems you can get similar for less. Angus will not be knocking on their door anytime soon.


I'm fan of KD for years and it's just a first failure.

Well it sounds like just a booking error and they can not be blamed top harshly for that. As I say, it happens in this hobby. I am not sure if you understood that KD reads the German forum and as far as I know does not come here. But then again maybe they do? Never seen any indication that KD reads this forum. If they do-where's my discount session for all my good will ambassador work? Kidding.


I don't know how is the internal organization of KD but it seems that there are two "services" : "Text&Form" service and "escort" service ; and I feel that they seem to work separately so "navigating" between two services will consumate time and so make us miss more opportunities. Furthermore , I met more often than in the past housekeepers who seemed talking only German and some ladies who helped them in answering phone calls didn't want to spend too much time in organizing meetings for her colleague !!

Not sure how they manage things. But I do know that when booking escorts through KD it seems better to give them lots of notice. That is do not phone at 19:00 asking for the girl at 20:00. I believe that many (most?) of their escorts work on call and need some hours of prep time. Plan ahead.


I had a doubt too because , according to its web site, I saw so many Bulgarian and Romanian ladies who work there.

Personally I do not think MR has any ties to organized crime. It is a great bordello as Charlie 123 (our MR expert) will attest to. I just say that of the big Berlin bordellos it has a slightly rougher feel and more girls working from abroad. This does not mean crime. I do not want to start unfounded rumors.


It looks like a saunaclub where clients meet other clients.

As I hear it is more a sauna club but also exclusive and caters to what the clients want. Maybe if the gent wants privacy and no cotact with other clients he will get that. But it will cost. There is actually a pretty interesting wiki article on this place.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bel_Ami_(Berlin)

It can be read easily with a browser translator. But I am not sure how totally accurate it is and can not imagine it being posted without in put from the club itself. Therefore what ever is said in there has to be taken lightly until such time as Angus sells the film rights to his memoirs and makes a personal assessment. Then (or sooner if the budget grows) I will make an exploratory visit and report back.


Furthermore I really prefer to kiss ladies who did not practise CIM before (I know many French guys like that but I'm not French born :-) !!!)

I suspect you have a long and fruitless search here my friend. Outside KD cim is a fact of life unless you can find a particular girl who does not do it. Even then you can not be certain. I can think of two girls I have seen, both of whom do not list cim in their service profile. Both do cim for Angus as he is clean and polite. Girls often under report their services on their profiles. If they like your look the offer more, at a price. In any case, outside KD and Artemis kissing is a paid option 90% of the time. And I, like you, prefer not to pay for kissing. Not because I am cheap (though that can be argued) but because I find kissing a beautiful intimacy. Paying for it seems to ruin it. That I am quite willing to pay to fuck the girl is an irony even I do not really understand. As always YMMV.

I personally do not think about it (too much) and put my faith behind modern mouthwash. I guess this is a personal thing.

AM

[Iamsterdam]

hi everyone,

here i offer a belated report on my recent trip to berlin. i was with this girl torry. http://www.escortgirlsberlin.de/girl/torry.html it had a very happy ending.

i made a phone call to the agency in the morning. the girl on the other side of the phone line couldn’t speak good english, so i had to text her with all the details. a few minutes later i called back again and she said it is arranged, and torry speaks very good english.

at 4pm sharp i got a phone call from the agency. the girl told me torry is downstairs and asked me to pick her up. i felt a bit embarrassing but i had to face it. when i came down to the hall i saw her sitting on couch and playing mobile phone. i called her name and then we greeted each other in a business way. when we went to the lift seems no one is paying attention to us. that’s good.

on the way to my room we have a little chat. she is from latvia and only worked in berlin for one month. yes this is probably true. i only saw her photos on the agency’s website recently.

got in the room. i offered two bottles of water and i emphasised that they are all un-opened. she didn’t take one. we started negotiation. it is 90 euro for one hour. i asked for some pictures and a dildo fun. she said it would be at least 120 euro. done and i paid her money. but be careful now i forgot to ask how many times i can come.

she undressed herself completely. she is tall, though not as tall as i expected. nice and spotless skin. the breast is said to be c cup but i thought it is bit smaller. btw she looked a bit older than what shown on the pictures on the agency’s website, and she confirmed this that she is actually slightly older than the website claims. but still she looks very good for me. she began to pose, in a professional way. after a few pictures i asked her to put on a grey legging, and then a bright green swimming suit. i brought both of my favourite clothes from my home just to see what they look like on a real woman’s body.

after about 50 photos we got down to the real business. i laid on bed and she gave me a gentle bbbj. it was really nice. she touched all the right spots on my little member. after a while i said let’s have some sex. she said you want me on top. i said yes. she put a condom on and climbed on top of me. the sex was very good and i can tell she was passionately involved in it. after a few strokes i came. then we laid on beds and had a light chat again. she is good at talking but not very talkative. a few minutes later i suggested having shower together and i want to fuck her again. she said she only does one sex in the session. i said it is written on the website that the customer can come as much as he can. she said she must to check with the agency and change it. but she agreed to have a second round with me. i also tried to finger her but she refused. also no kissing (i later found out kissing and figuring are extras).

we went to the shower room and i gave her gentle wash to every bit and piece of her body (except hairy). seems she enjoyed it very much. after i finished my work she washed my little member in return and made it hard up again. we started a slow standing doggy fuck with condom. this time i lasted longer, until she told me it is not very comfortable to stand in the small shower cabinet. i speeded it up and came in a minute. before i came i indicated to her that i am coming, so she pushed my bottom against the wall with her butt and rotated her butt. it drastically enhanced the climax. it is definitely the best sex experience i ever had.

after the sex she stayed in the shower room for a while to clean everything up. in the mean while we had some chat. it was already near the end of the one hour session so i did ask for dildo fun. before she goes, she took a bottle of water and gave a light kiss on my cheek.

overall, this is one of the best encounters with an escort and i am very satisfied. i can give the marks: face 7/10, body 8/10, service 9/10 and altitude 10//10.

later yesterday i found that she is also working in a brothel and offering “dominas”. see here http://www.bizarre-rollenspiele.de/girl/index.html you can see the link at the website of http://www.escortgirlsberlin.de/

i definitely recommend torry and probably will use this agency again.

last thing. torry told me she will come back to latvia in one month time.

[Tompnis]

Things seem to have stabilized the past 12 hours on the servers so I have published today the third and final installment in the Berlin escort series, the indy scene.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=253

Have a look, comments welcome.

AMAs always, Angus many thanks for your report.

I have used indy girls reasonably frequently when I was in Berlin during my last stay; now back will undoubtedly get back into it.

Some observations from my side:

1. Far more hit and miss (inevitably) than using one of the mid-price agencies (KLD, Mon Rouge). I have had some wonderful sessions but some have been quite frankly disastrous.

2. Normally I have used the Berlin Intim site; as Angus has indicated pretty obvious to find your way around and you can see the "Indies" who are really part of agencies (all pretty transparent). From my experience the process tends to work well and not had any disappointments with the girl on the site not being the one who comes along.

3. The girls can be less "hardened" to the business than at the agencies. Can be a good and a bad thing. On the positive side you can sometimes get closer to the illusive GFE. I've had some wonderful sessions where the time together has just flowed with no clock watching etc. On the other hand you can find girls who are just giving it a go because of personal circumstances and subsequently find it isn't really for them I remember one occasion where a very pretty girl came around; great chat and banter etc beforehand. Then got round down to business. Her profile had suggested OWO etc. When I suggested this she looked horrified and gave a face as if I had suggested bareback anal or satanic sacrifices. Said she really couldn't imagine doing this in a paid session and launched into a diatribe about this. At this stage my John Thomas had lost all interest and headed South. This then genuinely upset her and she asked if she was doing something wrong. All ended badly. Her profile disappeared from Berlin Intim very soon after; I guess prostitution wasn't for her. My point is not that she refused (though I am very clean, charming etc etc); that's her prerogative but that she didn't have the pro's way of doing it. A Mon Rouge girl would kind of shake her head, smile and move on if asked to do a service she didn't want to do.

4. You are letting someone into your home; this is where you live, where you smile at the neighbours in the morning. With the agencies (KLD, MR) I have not had an issue here as the girls come quite discreetly, they can bring the appropriate underclothes with them and they are very professional. Whilst I have never had a problem with an Indy, it does stay in the back of your mind that this is someone you really don't know coming into your home. Will they behave in a discreet fashion, will there be trouble.

5. Berlin is very curious in terms of the escort scene. In most other cities the escort scene is thriving but not in Berlin. I guess it must be because the legal bordellos are so good in Berlin (KLD, MR, Royal) that for many guys there is no need for outcalls. This is complete contrast to say London where such bordellos are not legal.

I'll carry on as I find the process itself of someone visiting me highly charged. That's just me. Whilst I really like the bordellos there is something quite cool for me of having a really sexy girl in my apartment having fun with me.

[Greg173]

Hi All,

I am new to this forum but am already finding it very helpful indeed. My friend and I will be visiting Berlin in November and can't wait to visit FKK Artemis. There is some advice I require:

There are many positive comments about all the different clubs and brothels however are there any 'no go' places where mongers have been conned?

After trying to research the Berlin nightlife and of course seeing so many places to visit I am like a kid in a sweet shop and am not sure where else to visit. Is there a top ten of places to visit for first timers to this kind of adventure. We really want to try everything in a weekend.

We are also interested in TS girls. Does Berlin have that kind of scene and if so is it safe?

Apologies as these questions have probably been asked a million times before..

Thanks for the great forum it's awesome!

[Charlie 123]

Personally I do not think MR has any ties to organized crime. It is a great bordello as Charlie 123 (our MR expert) will attest to. I just say that of the big Berlin bordellos it has a slightly rougher feel and more girls working from abroad. This does not mean crime. I do not want to start unfounded rumors.MR is terrific. Standard there is uniformally top-notch. If you want to avoid CiM-perpetrators, try Sandra the tall brunette with huge tits (not on website). She is very 'clean', limited-service (vis-a-vis extras), but might suit Bobo's agenda

Charlie

[Bobo.fr]

1) Odette


There is also Odette in Tiergarten.
http://www.odetteberlin.de/
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Thanks Angus,
I'm sure I met at least one KD lady (I don't remember who ?) who told me she worked for "Odette" in the past.
I wonder if, before working for KD, former-KD Kylie worked for Odette where she had to clean the house's windows (because she was late ? I'm not quite sure but I'm sure she had to clean the windows and she appreciated that at KD, working ladies were respected)

By the way, I had a look at the web site and realized that only German version was proposed : will no-German spoken clients be welcome ?


2) KD


Not sure how they manage things. But I do know that when booking escorts through KD it seems better to give them lots of notice. That is do not phone at 19:00 asking for the girl at 20:00. I believe that many (most?) of their escorts work on call and need some hours of prep time. Plan ahead.
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My first email asking for appointments were posted 9 days before my arrival.
The day before my arrival, when I was in another German city, I was informed that :
a) at my arrival day, the meeting would be impossible
b) at the following day, she would work at "Text&Form"
(no information (yet) for the day after that would be my last half-day presence in Berlin)



I don't know how is the internal organization of KD but it seems that there are two "services" : "Text&Form" service and "escort" service ; and I feel that they seem to work separately so "navigating" between two services will consumate time and so make us miss more opportunities. Furthermore , I met more often than in the past housekeepers who seemed talking only German and some ladies who helped them in answering phone calls didn't want to spend too much time in organizing meetings for her colleague !!
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Facts were :
a) at around 09:50 AM (so before opening times), I called Text&Form.
A lady told me that the lady I asked for had an appointment at 10:00 and proposed me a 45 minutes meeting.
I asked if a 90 minutes (or longer) meeting would be possible later.
I was said to call back because she was "just" a working-lady, not the housekeeper.

b) I sent 2 SMS and one email to KD's "Escort department" expecting that "Text&Form department" would be contacted (in German) to organize an appointment. Apparently, "Escort department" tried to contact directly the lady, not their "staff colleagues" of "Text&Form" : of course, as the lady was in room, she could not answer and probably( I can't be sure but that may make sense) "Text&Form department" could take new appointments with clients who contacted them directly during her meetings.

c) Well, I was informed between 14:30-15:00 (2:30 PM- 3:00 PM) that no meeting would be possible.

(So, on my side, I saw that for a request before 11:00 AM she was already fully booked until 17:00 (finally she stayed until 20:00 but I supposed these meetings were reserved for her regular local clients ?))

3) Bel Ami
I remembered bad posts about Bel Ami, may be this one (only ?)
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=908773&postcount=1688

[Bobo.fr]

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If you feel mislead, and can present a valid & reasonable argument why, I really do recommend that you write an email to discuss this with KD. Keep it balanced, point out our usual satisfaction with the place and even the fact of your very regular patronage, without seeming like you use it as a lever, if that makes sense. If you were mislead and can point out, reasonably why, it would not surprise me at all if you get some satisfaction. I mean you could get a reduced rate for a return visit.

I say this as I have seen such a thing on the German forum I visit (more later on this) in which a German monger and regular of KD had a sub standard session with a girl. She was a new arrival and apparently her inexperience really showed. She also tried to bluff her way through and not follow through on the usual KD excellence of service. This man took it up with management and was offered a reduced rate on his next session. I am not 100% sure but I think that the house absorbed their fee on his return and he paid only the girl’s (a different one) fee.

Now that I think of it, and this part I am really not sure as it was some months back and my memory of it is sketchy at best. Remember that I read all this on a German forum (with translator but still...) and I may not have got all the details correct. However, as I remember he did not even complain straight to the management, rather he wrote a fair, balanced report on the forum describing his session. The KD management, who apparently read the forum, then contacted him through the forum and offered him the discount as long as he could prove who he was somehow.
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Thanks for your suggestion Angus but I've never been interested in that, in contrary, I'm ready to pay more for more satisfaction.

Often, I offered tips to ladies who made me feel nice (the last time I met the lady I missed recently , tips were offered as "fees" for her baby-sitter; and talking about money, I should say that, once, "my" KD's "jewel", former Czech-Polish Romy did give back to me part of the money saying "it's too much" !!!)

When I read the story you related about a "sub standard session" with a girl I remembered a girl named Sandra who worked at KD some years ago (CAUTION : SANDRA who currently works at KD is OK, just limited English when I met her, probably one year or more ago; so her English may be better now) : I stopped the session with her after around 15-20 minutes while I paid for 60 minutes; I did not make any scandals because I didn't want her to get troubles : I often have (too ?) much compassion for sex-workers.

[Angus Magee]

Thanks for your suggestion Angus but I've never been interested in that, in contrary, I'm ready to pay more for more satisfaction.

Well if you are okay with letting it go this can be the best option. No muss, no fuss.



I didn't want her to get troubles : I often have (too ?) much compassion for sex-workers.


I commend you for this compassion. I think sex workers often need some extra compassion. I also think it can be just as compassionate to say the truth of a situation, if I am unsatisfied to say so, and give reasons why. Maybe I take the whole thing of sex work too seriously but I really look for and admire women who treat sex work as their art and want to perfect it. Thus sensitive feedback can be helpful towards this end. And let us face it, for many women it is just a job and they do not care. One has to look at this and judge if it is appropriate.

In the end, if you are okay, you are okay. My suggestion is not to stir things up just to get a discount, but to help the business know how the customer, you, was effected by the screw up. That you might end up with a discount, is beside the point.

Working in the service industry I always knew when someone was just trying to get a freebie and when they were genuinely interested in offering feedback. I was always pretty grateful to the latter group and actually wanted to give them something in return. It is kind of an energetic thing. If someone is trying to take something from me I tend to resist. If they try to give something (useful feedback) I tend to say thanks and offer something back.


AM

[Angus Magee]

I'll carry on as I find the process itself of someone visiting me highly charged. That's just me. Whilst I really like the bordellos there is something quite cool for me of having a really sexy girl in my apartment having fun with me.

Excellent post Tompnis! It goes to the RofD thread here on the ISG and I have made a short addendum to my own indy escort post on Angus' blog linking it to you report.

Thanks for taking the time.

Angus

[Angus Magee]

Hi Greg,

I'll do my best


There are many positive comments about all the different clubs and brothels however are there any 'no go' places where mongers have been conned?

I do not think that there are places you will be conned as in end up with a €3000 bar tab for a bottle of champagne like you find in some places in Europe. But certainly there are good and not so good places. If being conned includes paying high rates for substandard service, this can even happen in an excellent FKK like Artemis. If you have not already done so I strongly recommend that you read the Berlin thread and the FKK Artemis thread to get an idea. Research is your friend and nobody can really do it for you.

Generally I recommend staying away from really obvious tourist clubs like those around Stuttgarter Platz. Not that you can not have a good time there. I myself had a very good session in one of these places. And there is a report way back in the thread of a very, very good session experienced by another member. But you do run a slightly higher chance of getting substandard service as they are places catering to green tourists.

Recent reports of Caligula, the flat rate club in Berlin Schöneberg are not good. Again, do your research on the forum.




After trying to research the Berlin nightlife and of course seeing so many places to visit I am like a kid in a sweet shop and am not sure where else to visit. Is there a top ten of places to visit for first timers to this kind of adventure. We really want to try everything in a weekend.

Not sure if I can do top 10. And it really does depend on what you want but here goes Angus' very non objective opinion.

Artemis
Liberty
KD
Mon Rouge
Royal

There I run out of steam, at 5. But really, this is so subjective and if you ask me tomorrow I might order it differently. Artemis is on top because I like the FKK style. The others are really interchangeable and it depends on which girl I might like to see as much as the weather and if I have time. Liberty is very close to my flat so I like it. See what I mean?

Also, how adventurous do you want to be? If really adventurous then just get at it. Berlin is over all a pretty safe city. There is a very diverse night life and the streets are lively late into the night. Even in the seedier Neuköln district I really doubt that you get mugged. As long as you do not drink yourself silly and stumble around with your wallet hanging out all should be good. And need I mention, stay away from the street trade unless you really want to be fleeced. Have a look for Unter's report to see what I mean.



We are also interested in TS girls. Does Berlin have that kind of scene and if so is it safe?

Ummmm...Not interested in this so I know more or less nothing. In any case, the ISG forum expressly forbids talk of LBs on the Thai threads. I am not 100% sure if this includes the Berlin thread but I do not think it appropriate to find out. And even asking the question can get you banned. You will have to look elsewhere for this info. Personally I could not care where you stick your dick, or if you like to suck them, but I do respect Jackson's policy and desire to keep this forum about actual women. Not to say you can not have your interests, just do not talk of them here.


as these questions have probably been asked a million times before..

Well some have. But as long as you also check out the thread I personally do not mind a quick review. You might have a look for my Berlin guide. Sorry, I have a link to it bookmarked on my computer which is in the shop. It takes a bit of digging in the RofD (Reports of Distinction) thread but there is quite a bit of detailed info there.


Thanks for the great forum it's awesome!

It is awesome. And it gets more awesome when mongers such as yourself report back on your adventures. I hope this happens (often it does not) but please, leave out the TS stuff. Nit that there is anything wrong with it.

AM

[Talac]

Hi,

First of all I think it very possible & safe. Wise? You will have to decide but then when is mongering ever really wise.

I had to wonder what kind of budget you have in mind. And did you envision the girls coming for a set fee, all included? or that the guys attending the party pay as they go. If the former it is easy but expensive, at least by my standards. The latter would be less expensive to the person hosting the party (you?) but might be harder to arrange. Especially in advance with little to no German knowledge. You could of corse use a more expensive & reliable agency (Kamilla Dee's escort for example) but that would get quite expensive for multiple girls & a few hours. Like 3-5 thousand Euros (200€ per girl per hour,3-5 hrs estimate). Like I say, you could of course do it cheaper with a lesser agency but then the reliability factor goes down. The Berlin escort scene is not the most reliable I have known.

There are other questions in my mind like-do you really want an orgy? or is it more having the girls available to go to more private rooms. The orgy scenario would be again more expensive. Are you looking for really quality girls? or are you happy with the more...er...skanky variety.

If you answer some of these questions I can perhaps point you towards suitable agencies. But you will have to do the negotiation yourself. I am not (yet) offering Angus Magee Pimp services;)

Personally I would suggest Artemis as a good club and venue for this. You could even, for a price, rent out their VIP party room (not sure of the cost) and stock it with girls from the club. I do not know exactly how this works but a call to Artemis would clear that up. The front desk girls generally speak good English.

Regards

AMSorry for late respond I was on vacation.

I would rather prefer to do the party in the apartment, but if you think that there are no reliable agencies, and its better to go in Artemis, than who am I to judge you (Artemis seems also quite nice).

My plan was to call some recommended and reliable escort service or some kind of agencie, and ask for 5 girls to come in the apartment in aggred time. I didnt ment real orgy I ment more like changing partners, trying out 2 girls, or something like that (I know that it costs extra). The girls doesnt have to be top models, but it would be nice that I can see their pic in their real image. And I was planning a budget of about 150-200 e per girl.

[Greg173]

Hi Greg,

I'll do my best

I do not think that there are places you will be conned as in end up with a €3000 bar tab for a bottle of champagne like you find in some places in Europe. But certainly there are good and not so good places. If being conned includes paying high rates for substandard service, this can even happen in an excellent FKK like Artemis. If you have not already done so I strongly recommend that you read the Berlin thread and the FKK Artemis thread to get an idea. Research is your friend and nobody can really do it for you.

Generally I recommend staying away from really obvious tourist clubs like those around Stuttgarter Platz. Not that you can not have a good time there. I myself had a very good session in one of these places. And there is a report way back in the thread of a very, very good session experienced by another member. But you do run a slightly higher chance of getting substandard service as they are places catering to green tourists.

Recent reports of Caligula, the flat rate club in Berlin Schöneberg are not good. Again, do your research on the forum.

Not sure if I can do top 10. And it really does depend on what you want but here goes Angus' very non objective opinion.

Artemis

Liberty

KD

Mon Rouge

Royal

There I run out of steam, at 5. But really, this is so subjective and if you ask me tomorrow I might order it differently. Artemis is on top because I like the FKK style. The others are really interchangeable and it depends on which girl I might like to see as much as the weather and if I have time. Liberty is very close to my flat so I like it. See what I mean?

Also, how adventurous do you want to be? If really adventurous then just get at it. Berlin is over all a pretty safe city. There is a very diverse night life and the streets are lively late into the night. Even in the seedier Neuköln district I really doubt that you get mugged. As long as you do not drink yourself silly and stumble around with your wallet hanging out all should be good. And need I mention, stay away from the street trade unless you really want to be fleeced. Have a look for Unter's report to see what I mean.

Ummmm. Not interested in this so I know more or less nothing. In any case, the ISG forum expressly forbids talk of LBs on the Thai threads. I am not 100% sure if this includes the Berlin thread but I do not think it appropriate to find out. And even asking the question can get you banned. You will have to look elsewhere for this info. Personally I could not care where you stick your dick, or if you like to suck them, but I do respect Jackson's policy and desire to keep this forum about actual women. Not to say you can not have your interests, just do not talk of them here.

Well some have. But as long as you also check out the thread I personally do not mind a quick review. You might have a look for my Berlin guide. Sorry, I have a link to it bookmarked on my computer which is in the shop. It takes a bit of digging in the RofD (Reports of Distinction) thread but there is quite a bit of detailed info there.

It is awesome. And it gets more awesome when mongers such as yourself report back on your adventures. I hope this happens (often it does not) but please, leave out the TS stuff. Nit that there is anything wrong with it.

AMThanks for your reply Angus that has proved to be very helpful indeed. My friend and I are really excited about our trip and will certainly report back as a complete freshie to Berlin and a newbie to the mongering scene from our point of view.

Thanks again- also I have read parts of your blog and have watched your YouTube vid, which I must say was also very helpful.

Keep up the good work

Regards,

Greg

[Angus Magee]

Sorry for late respond I was on vacation.

I would rather prefer to do the party in the apartment, but if you think that there are no reliable agencies, and its better to go in Artemis, than who am I to judge you (Artemis seems also quite nice).

My plan was to call some recommended and reliable escort service or some kind of agencie, and ask for 5 girls to come in the apartment in aggred time. I didnt ment real orgy I ment more like changing partners, trying out 2 girls, or something like that (I know that it costs extra). The girls doesnt have to be top models, but it would be nice that I can see their pic in their real image. And I was planning a budget of about 150-200 e per girl.

All I can do is give my recommendation. Truth be told I am still not sure the over all budget for this. Artemis would cost 80/guest for the entry then 60/half hour in the room plus any extras like cim. If you are picking up the tab it could get expensive. As mentioned there is a private vip room at Artemis but I do not know the details of renting it.

If you read the thread you will see that reliability is not the strong suit of Berlin escort trade in this price range. Not to say there are not some okay agencies, just no one I could say to you-call this one they are a sure thing. At the girl budget you mention I think you could probably get the 5 girls for a two hour period, maybe. I am not sure if they would charge extra just for the multiple man scenario. That is, the normal price is around 90/hr +any extras. But this is for sex maybe twice with the same guy. If a girl is to be expected to fuck 4 or 5 guys in the space of an hour or so she will likely want extra. And who could blame her.

Well, I've had my say, given my recommendations. Good luck and please do actually write a report. It would be interesting to hear the out come and results.

AM

[Kasper 81]

Dear lovers of the pink box, here I am on the road again. I will visit Berlin soon, and as it has happened in the past I will write reports of my hunting season!

This time, I would like to taste something different. I would like to have a session or two with thai or indonesian girls (NO TS, SHEMALES ETC. I ONLY LIKE 100% GIRLS!). There are some posts on the Berlin thread referring to thai massages, maybe ending with HJ or BJ, but I am looking for a regular brothel with oriental pussies to get fucked. Any advice on this?

Also, I would like to insert my dear friend in some fresh, slim ebony flesh. What places would you suggest?

I plan to visit Fredenhaus, Rose16 (last time it was closed, damn!), Liberty and perhaps some places you might suggest me, and I will afterwards give you details on my visit.

As always, thank you for your much appreciated help, which I try to pay back with my future posts.

Kasper

[Joy Rider2008]

Thanks for making your first report Joy Rider. And an interesting one too. I have never in all my years in Berlin seen or heard of this bordello.

A couple of questions. Is there a location for this bordello or did you do a home visit. From the website they do seem to indicate that both are available but give no clue as to the in call address.

And what do you pay for the session. The website gives some prices for house visits (pretty expensive I might add) but gives no price for a bordello visit. Yet they do seem to indicate that bordello visits are available.

Thanks for any clarification.

AMHi Angus,

Sorry for the delayed response. Don't log on here that often.

Yes, there is a location for this place. It's Uhlandstr. 27 (Just off Ku'Damm). For the 1 hour, I pay 110€ (not sure about other prices). Strangely enough, I once called them and asked about their service and they told me that they only offered "massages", but for sure that's not true.

I do have a private email address for Alicia. It's the way I usually arrange appointments now. So drop me a message and I can let you have the details.

[Charlie 123]

Hi

I recently reported on a new firm escort-sex24 and their girl Natalie and subsequently Spec20 wrote a positive report on her stable-mate Paris.

Today I also had an outing myself with Paris and I can wholeheartedly endorse Spec's positive recommendation

http://www.escort-sex24.de/paris

She is prettier in reality than in her webpics - always a bonus! She used to be a model until struck by a minor pigmentation malady, and she has a georgeous firm figure with long legs, a flat tummy, nice boobs (man-made) and a very pretty face that really isn't shown to best effect on the website

We chatted a while before and after - she is an intelligent and thoughtful girl and pleasant and relaxed company.

She kisses nicely, her BJ is competent without being exceptional, and she is a nice tight fuck.

Very good value for 100E. I'm not sure whether I'd bother to do her again given the wonderful range of similar opportunities afforded by this great city, but I wouldn't hesitate to commend her to anyone looking for an attractive success-guaranteed session with a hot chick.

I like this agency a lot - they deliver what they promise. She confirmed that they run a genuine 24 hour service which is another plus point. I see that they have added a 3rd girl (Roxanna) - I think I know what I'll be having for breakfast tomorrow!

Charlie

[Angus Magee]

KG,Website:http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/

The King George has been on my list of clubs to visit for some time. I have never been to a flat rate club before and indeed the very idea does not sit with me comfortably. Flat rate clubs have sprung up relatively recently as an off shot of the Partytreff scene. While I have also never been to a Partytreff, my good friend Iseeu has told me very accurately what they are about and how they work. While Partytreff seems to be about inexpensive sex, it is also about the party, a swinger atmosphere. At least this is how I understand it.

The King George, as I experienced it, is first and for most a bar. But it is a bar in which ladies are available for sex at no extra cost other than the cost to enter the bar-€99. How they pull this off, that is, what exactly the economics of the place are, I have no idea. But when one does a few calculations in the head after seeing the business on what appeared to be a pretty typical Tuesday evening one thing is for sure-these ladies do not earn top dollar for selling their pussies. It is also a place that has me wondering, exactly how “free” are these girls? Upon speaking with them a bit, I do not think that they are there under lock and key, except perhaps the shackles of their own economic circumstance back in the home country which is, for the most part, Romania. If this sort of scenario offends you, tickles your indignation bone that such things should not be happening, perhaps it be best if you give the King George a miss. If you can drop these moral ideas for an evening (Ol’ Angus is good at dropping things other than his trousers in the presence of a hooker and in the interest of a good report) then by all means head on over for an evening of a certain type of whoring and fun.

As I mention, the King George has been on my to do list for a long time. The fact that it is not three minutes walk from my flat and that I walk by the place almost daily has something to do with this but it is also that, as Berlin’s roving reporter, I felt it my duty to check the place out. The thought of going in alone, however, did not appeal. This would be the number one recommendation I have for this place, do not go there alone! Having a wingman is crucial for success in clubs of this nature, both as a way of passing the time in an atmosphere where there is little else to do but drink, and as a way of keeping the ladies in check. The latter point being the most important in my opinion.

A couple of weeks back Charlie 123 and I, who had met in July at Artemis, were exchanging a few pms on the finer points of the Berlin escort scene. I mentioned to him that I would like to visit the King George and was he interested. He answered yes and so we set a evening aside and met early yesterday evening for our adventure. We both agreed that an early arrival would be good and so at around 18:00 on Tuesday we were paying our entry fee and walking into the dimly lit bar.

Angus had actually done a recon mission to the bar a couple of day earlier. So I knew the set up and had even scouted out the girls a wee bit. My recon mission told me that the place was basically clean, had a number of girls and at least one who I considered hot. The rest I described as doable except one. As we sat at our table and I looked around I wondered if my “doable” description was a wee bit strong. In fact my observation at this point was that there was one hot girl, one quite attractive (cute) girl, a small handful who looked better as the evening progressed and one who I would chew my arm off to get away from. More on the girls later.

We settled in, drinks in hand, and watched the action on the stage. Two girls (there were about 4 at the time plus Petronella, the Queen Bee, who sets herself apart from the other girls) dance with unprofessional charm, and little else, on the stage complete with poles. Almost at once one of the girls came over and suggested we buy her a piccolo of champagne.

Here we go, says Charlie.

But no, in fact the request for champagne was easily rebuffed and I did not get the feeling that we were, as a result, immediately marked as cheap. The girls were just doing their job, putting out feelers, trying to determine who we were and what was possible from us. A short word here about dressing for the King George. Charlie and I were dressed in a sort of opposite fashion, Charlie, fresh from a day of business, had on a business suit and tie. I had on my usual Berlin sloppy garb of jeans, un-ironed short sleeve shirt and a comfortable, but unstylish vest. Oh, and the fashion disaster lambskin lined Crocs. Neither one of us was really dressed for the King. My suggestion would be to try to wear something casual but with a bit of style, something that gives a vague aroma money but does not suggest business account. As I think of it now the combination of Charlie and I was probably perfect, or at least better than I thought at the time. It set up, I feel, a sort of question in the minds of the ladies. In our mis-matched-ness the girls did not know quite how to button hole us. This may have been the reason that despite the fact that we refused on a number of occasions to fall for the piccolo gambit, the girls kept coming. Or maybe it was due to the fact that we were, for a long time, the only customers in the bar.

When you enter the King George, as mentioned, you pay a one time entry price of €99. Well, in fact you pay €100 as they do not offer change for your €100, and I rather feel it would be extremely bad form to press the point. Instead you are given three King George dollars, printed coupons looking like dollar bills-King George dollars. The idea with these dollars is as a kind of incentive (or cash grab depending upon the spin you out on it) for the ladies to contact the cliental. As the ladies dance or approach you they ask for you to tuck the dollars in their bikini bottoms or bra. In fact, “ask” might be understating it a wee bit. The girls in fact demand that you give them the dollar bills. And if one gets one, they all want one. My own feeling about this is that it pays to be a little free with the dollars. You are given three, and you can go to the entry desk and buy more, one Euro gets you one dollar. Don’t go over board with the dollars, refusal is okay, and again, refusal does not mean, at least it did not for Charlie and I, that the girls then ignore you. But it seems that the best way is to buy a few (€10 worth) and give them out relatively freely until gone. The price of the evening increases slightly but it does give the monger a way of interacting with the girls, and through this interaction one can judge the girl’s fun quotient and personality.

Of course for old Angus, the FQP (Fun Quotient Personality) test was for naught. I had my eye almost immediately on one of the girls, one who was cute (the cutest but not the hottest-Petronella) but was, in retrospect, an obvious non performer. Perhaps 20 minutes, no more than half an hour, into our evening I called over Gabi as Charlie teased and tested one of the other girls. I tried every club gambit I knew to find common ground, all to no avail. As this is a flat rate club though, and the fee is paid, all one risks in a trip to the room is one’s own ammo. So after failing to determine young Gabi’s hopes, aspirations or hobbies, I suggested the only avenue left to us, a trip to the back rooms.

Gabi checks in with the bartender (maybe this is how they get paid by the session?) and off we go. The rooms, all in the back of the club, are functional and reasonable clean. At least they look vacuumed, the showers are scum free and the bed spreads have to be examined a bit closely to see the crusty white stains. Fine sensibilities might want to give the place a miss or bring a sheet. Angus takes a quick ball washing shower, suddenly worried about his wallet which is out of sight on the other side of the room, and quickly joins Gabi on the bed spread with towels. It is quickly apparent that this will not be soul sex. Nipple licks may or may not be allowed. I did not ask. But my feeling is that it would have been a negative response had I done so. I lay back, Gabi applies the condom with her mouth and gets busy with a passable cbj. Little “A” responds and Gabi, who barely speaks German or English, tells me that my schwanz is big. I am sure that this is just her patter but I appreciate her effort. With Little “A” brought to attention Gabi suggests ficken. Off we go in mish and then after 5 minutes switch to doggy. The poor girl has that look of wanting to be somewhere else, anywhere in fact, other than in this small Schöneberg bar back room being boned by a monger more than twice her age (early 20s?) . As I see this my bothersome conscience kicks in and Little “A” starts to wilt. I soldier on for a few minutes, try a switch to mish, and then call it quits explaining to Gabi that she is sweet, sexy and adorable but that I am an old man and these things happen. This she accepts and we have a perfunctory cuddle, get dressed and leave.

I give you the messy details of this session mainly to illustrate that this is how this club runs, how the girls generally are in the room. While it is possible at the King to have a good session, my feeling is that most sessions will unfold pretty much in the fashion I describe unless you put in some effort and do the ground work needed for a good session. Charlie as I found him was busily engaged in doing this ground work. He had a couple of girls in his thrall, had invested in some more KG dollars and was busy doling them out. The moment that I will certainly always remember from this evening came when a young lady, attracted by the glittering sparkles of Charlie’s rather expensive watch, teased it off his wrist and affixed it to her own. The next thing we see is the girl disappearing around the corner to the front of the bar and Charlie is off his bar stool, as fast I have seen anyone move, in hot pursuit. The watch was quickly retrieved and the girl now knew, with certainty, that yes, it was real and not a cheap knockoff.

I will let Charlie describe his session if he choses to report. But I will say that Charlie did his vetting and seems to have been rewarded with a reasonable session. Angus, on the other hand waited around, made another faulty decision and ended up with much the same result as before with a girl whose name I forget (Alina?). Again she was cute enough but in the room it became apparent that she was no handmaid to Venus and I quickly pulled the plug, cuddled, joked and commiserated with her about the hardships of life. To the girls’ credit I did suggest that we leave the room a couple of times but she seemed to want to hang out and cuddle. I even had the idea to tip her a fiver if she let me lick her puss. This I did with no great enthusiasm, mindful of the facts of these girl’s certain and frequent trips to the room with all sorts of men. Basically I tickled the top of her pussy as a way of sliding her the fiver. She seemed pleased with the €5 if not with my masterful tongue technique.

Back out on the floor, with more girls around and a few more mongers (there never seemed to be more than a half dozen plus at a time in the bar, though it is hard to say as I did notice that later in the evening all the rooms were busy so maybe there were more men than it seemed there.

Charlie having had a session, our conversation becoming increasingly drunken as it was not difficult to get drinks, decided to call it quits. I started with rum and coke, switching to vodka sprite as it seemed easier for the bartender to remember and all told must have had a round 6-8. I did suspect the booze of being watered as the bartender poured good long shots and while drunk, I was not as messy as 8 drinks should make me. I decided to order yet another drink and hang in for a while longer. Hey, I was close to home, it was just gone 22:00 and I was in a very rare for Angus, drunken condition with girls who I had prepaid to fuck all around me. I considered my options,briefly landing on the girl Charlie had fucked, then deciding I wanted the Queen Bee, Petronella, or nothing.

Peronella is a breed apart at the King. Two days earlier she had given me the tour with a surprising degree of thoroughness and ambassadorial skills. She showed me the bar, the toilets (newly renovated) the rooms with showers, even the draws filled with bulk bought condoms for our protection. As I boastfully mentioned to Charlie in a pre-visit pm, I felt that had I asked she might just have bent forward and given me a visual tour of her pussy. When we arrived for our evening she was on her throne..er…barstool, at the front of the King. She shook my hand and turned haughtily away. I had to have her!

Charlie pointed out that she has the demeanor of a hostess and perhaps she does not actually go to the rooms with guests. Maybe her role is as ambassador and den mother to the other, obviously lesser girls. Just looking at her you can see she is cut from different cloth. Petronalla is tall, slim, tight butt, a quite beautiful face adorned with heavy make up and darkly mascaraed eyes. She smokes lady smokes with a long cigarette holder and has a coolness to her that is sort of out of place at the King George. Angus, on one of his by now slightly unstable and bumbling trips to the bar, suavely sidled to her and asked if she was in fact the Queen Bee, not available for a visit to the rooms, or was she good to go. Her icy facade broke just a wee bit, she gave me a sexy, knowing half smile and told me she was available in this way. She then turned her back and walked away. There is nothing in this world that quite gets old Angus in a lather than being suggestively ignored.

With Charlie gone I easily could have sat on my stool, ordered drinks and slowly sunken into oblivion. Tonight though, with my game on, I jumped off my bar stool, steadied my gait and went off in search of Petronella. I find her near the front at a table with a conveniently empty stool opposite. Boldly I sit and begin my witty repartee that never fails to get the Artemis ladies up the stairs and into the room. Petronella is game and we slide into a reasonably pleasant conversation, in German with the occasional English, Petronella slowly thawing as exposed to Angus’ warm charm. Conversation slows to a crawl after 10 minutes and Peronella herself than suggests a trip to the room. Off we go.

The session with Petonella did not disappoint. Indeed it was a very good half hour, for that was what we spent in the room. Her bj was good to very good, Angus licked her beautiful snatch with more abandon than perhaps was wise (at no extra charge) and Petronella was responsive and got into it. At last Angus, gun full cocked, quite easily, in one position (mish) released the hounds. The girl then cleaned me up, lay down on her tummy and ordered a massage. I say ordered as there was never a question that I would, or even could had I wanted to, say no to this massage. Petronella needed it and she was not shy in asking. I love this girl. Ten minutes later, relaxed, back cracked, she was visibly happy with my skills and, her cool girl armor replaced, we left the room, cheeks kissed, and Angus went to the bar swearing that it was time to leave.

Lads, I did not leave. I decided upon another drink and had a little look round. The bar was actually by now, around 23:00, sort of busy. The girls, just two or three of them, were on the prowl, though not quite in the same way we are used to at Artemis, and there were a number of punters looking around for the hotties, or what passes for hotties at the King. The girl Charlie had schtupped was still around and she dragged me over to one of the punters and said “EEngleesh”. I introduced myself and yes, the gent was in fact an English speaker, I will not mention his nationality in the interest of anonymity as he was not a forum reader, though he may soon be as I did direct him to my blog, the ISG forum and a few regular tourist attractions in Berlin. We had a nice chat before my new found friend felt the pull and disappeared into the back with one of my earlier (not the cute girl Gabi) failures.

I, mindful that I had to work in the morning, though not too, too early, resisted another drink and propped myself up on a stool. There was another of the doable with a few drinks in you girls dancing on the stage. Exchanging looks we teased back and forth until I had her come over for a chat. The hell with it, I suggested the room thing and was promptly rebuffed. Huh? Is this supposed to happen at a flat rate? I persist, rebuffed again, and finally stuff the one remaining dollar I have down her bra. This has the desired effect and she agrees, if, I felt, a little reluctantly, to go to the room. This time I was under no illusions. This would not be a great session. I told the girl plainly that I was not maybe up for much but wanted a bit of slap and tickle. My English slang lost on her, she gets down to it and promptly stalls for time. After five minutes she suggests blassen, applies condom and goes to work. I just lay back and let her do her thing. It was not a great bj by any means but then it was not bad, I am afraid it was rather a lot of work for her but with judicious use of her hand as well hand I did manage a nice finish, actually under the manipulation of her palm, into the condom which she did not seem to want to take off even for a wank. But by this time I was not at all picky and did not want to suggest sweetening the pot with a tenner or even a fiver.-for a covered hand job?

All spent, I dressed, wen to the bar, double kissed all the girls, bis nächtes mal, and I am off into the night, short walk home and to bed on an ever so slightly spinning mattress. All in all the King George was a success, I had a fun, if not terribly sexually satisfying time, though for the price, the party atmosphere and the very good session with Queen Patronella, the money was well spent I felt.

A few final closing words if I may, observations and maybe a few words of advise. First is the question of extras at the King George. It seems that the basic response to questions concerning extras was, there are no extras. The girls try to earn extra money with the piccolos, the King George dollars and frankly asking you for a fiver. At least three girls asked me for €5, one for pizza, one for smokes and one just for the €5. As with the piccolo requests, these requests, while annoying, were easily refused (by me and Charlie at least) and the refusal seemed to have no real repercussions with regard to the way the girls treated us. But, as hopefully Charlie will tell us, the no extra policy, if indeed it is a policy and not just the girls do not like doing them, is not bullet proof. Be warned though that unless you are experienced at negotiating playfully, this is an area where a monger could easily come to grief, be branded as a newbie and perhaps even fleeced.Proceed with caution here.

If at all possible I suggest not visiting the King without a good wingman. This is a bar, there is no retreating to the confines of the sauna or a comfortable quiet downstairs area as at Artemis. Sitting alone you are either a target or a sad sack in the girls’ eyes. Sitting with a wingman you are a curiosity and perhaps even a challenge. In fact, I will assert, that sitting with another man, in conversation, perhaps business, you become actually attractive to the girls. The feminine likes to be, sometimes demands to be, the center of masculine attention. Two guys sitting together, having something to say to one another, becomes an affront to the girls’ deeper conviction that she is the only thing worthy of your attention, not these guys and their conversation. Thus, the girls start to try harder and play closer to their “A” game. This is a good thing in monger land. But take a gent with you, again if possible, who is confident enough to also be left alone at a moment’s notice. Tow guys clinging is…well…frankly a bit “gay”. Charlie, I have to say, is an excellent wingman and I would happily monger with him in any situation knowing that he has my back and could just as easily fly off solo if the situation warranted it. Thanks Charlie for the good work. It was an honor to fly together.

As the King is a flat rate the theoretical way in which the place works is that you can have sex with whom you want and as much as you like. Experience supports this yet I have the feeling that it is not always the case. My English speaking friend was at the King as a non German speaking monger flying solo. I saw him swoop without hesitation and walk off with one of the standard girls. But later, just as I was leaving I could see that he dearly wanted a session with Pertonella who was on the stage dancing. And he was rebuffed it seems. Drunkenly, and hoping my earlier massage skills might buy me some cred, I suggested to Patronella that he was a good customer. But I fear it may not have ben enough as she did appear pretty disdainful, like she was not going to budge. Had he a wingman, and not some drunken, end of the night well wisher, I am sure there could have been a way. As it is, and I hope I am wrong, Patronella in her position of Queen of the King was not going give it up for him. Maybe he will sign in here upon reading and prove me wrong. I hope so.

Finally, again, the King dollars. It may offend you, it is annoying, but just buy a few and give them out. It is part of the game, it is some fun, it ain’t expensive. These girls can not earn much and this may just boost their income enough to actually show you a good time, but I doubt it.

The final word? Thumbs up for the King. I am not sure I would return all that soon, or often, but for a night of a certain type of sleazy fun the King George earns high marks. Don’t go there expecting great sex, maybe not even good sex. But for €100 you can get some cheap sex and a light frivolity that you don not generally find at a big full on place like Artemis. The King George girls are not motivated in the same way as the Artemis beauties but they can be, it seems, coaxed into a decent session from time to time.

Thanks as always for reading.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Dear lovers of the pink box, here I am on the road again. I will visit Berlin soon, and as it has happened in the past I will write reports of my hunting season!

This time, I would like to taste something different. I would like to have a session or two with thai or indonesian girls (NO TS, SHEMALES ETC. I ONLY LIKE 100% GIRLS!). There are some posts on the Berlin thread referring to thai massages, maybe ending with HJ or BJ, but I am looking for a regular brothel with oriental pussies to get fucked. Any advice on this?

Also, I would like to insert my dear friend in some fresh, slim ebony flesh. What places would you suggest?

I plan to visit Fredenhaus, Rose16 (last time it was closed, damn!), Liberty and perhaps some places you might suggest me, and I will afterwards give you details on my visit.

As always, thank you for your much appreciated help, which I try to pay back with my future posts.

Kasper

Hi,

I do not know of a bordello that specializes in oriental or black women. I know VB has a thread dedicated to them but it is difficult get round the jungend Schutz. I can tell you that do so is possible
.
Have a look at all the major bordellos here in Berlin and you will see which ones I prefer and why. Each of these places has at least a couple of these ladies on staff. I might also point to the fact that "oriental" can refer to any lady from Turkey eastward. If you look for Asians, say Asian as these are women from Thailand etc.

Good luck and happy day.

[Charlie 123]

Mis-posted on the Artemis thread and reproduced here with apologies:

Hi,

I paid a visit to King George Flat-Rate Club last night with Angus Magee.

It is a very small club with a bar area and a small lounge behind, incorporating a pole-dancing stage - all a little bit 'worn' but comfortable enough. To the rear is a corridor leading to the 'Zimmers' each of which is relatively sparsely decorated and furnished, but clean and with a shower in the room.

99E was the entry fee - all drinks included. I must have had 6 or 8 vodkas during our 3 hour stay. Champagne is extra, but standard alcoholic drinks are included. You get a few 'pole-dance dollars' with your entry to slip inside the dancers bra or panties and can refill at the rate of one 'dollar' for one euro.

There were 7 or 8 girls in attendance, ranging from one or two who one could categorize as pretty, a mid-section of 4 or 5 'do-able', and one piglet. All of them were Romanian.

There was some pressure to fork out for 'Piccolos' at the usual exorbitant rate and a constant stream of entreaties for 'dollars'. This is not a proper mongering parlour - this is a tourist trap. It's not an aggressive scene, and they do want you to have a good time, but if you are a mug then you will get taken for as much as the girls can squeeze from you. However, Angus and I are pretty experienced in such matters and we quickly and firmly established our authority, whereupon we were able to enjoy a pretty fun evening.

The girls are very much amateurs. By this I don't mean that they are 'hobbyficks'. They are young and inexperienced working girls who don't really know their trade yet. They come across all 'vamp' in the lounge, but in the room, whilst willing, they show their inexperience. This was quite refreshing in a way after several weeks of almost continual attendance at Artemis.

I had the one session only with a dumpy little thing called Anka - a blond with decent tits but a bit of a tummy. What she did have was an endearing personality and a cheeky attitude that emerged as the evening progressed and manifested itself most clearly in the room when she fell off the bed from hysterical laughter as my intended CoB finish (30E extra) actually ended in my own face. She was so excited and happy at this extraordinary and new(to her) outcome that she rushed to tell all her friends (having had the decency to procure first my permission). I thought it was mildly amusing (it wasn't the first time I'd commited a 'Selbstbesamung'), but her delight and amusement rendered it a charming conclusion to a fun little session.

It felt comfortable to have Angus as company at KG and the fact that there were 2 of us made it easier to make it clear to the girls that we are not 'newbies' to the P4P scene who can be mucked about. This made it much easier to create an atmosphere whereby we were 'in charge' and could thus have a bit of fun with these 'silly litte girls'. As a consequence, it turned out to be a good evening.

I happened to go back to Artemis afterwards (I had popped in earlier during the day). The contrast upon entering the lounge at Artemis couldn't have been more stark. The girls there are so confident and professional, whereas KG had felt much more 'amateur hour'.

I enjoyed our evening at KG, as much as a distraction from the serious business of mongering as anything else, but I'd have no reason to go again. The looks and service from the girls just doesn't warrant a return (btw - there are pretty much no 'extras' available - CiM, CoF and anal are all 'off the menu'), and even at the 'all-inclusive' price of 99E for all you can fuck, I'd not be tempted to have another visit unless the quality of ladies took a quantum leap forward.

Recommended, but only if you know your way around the P4P world. If you are new to the game, go to a bordelle or an FKK first and find out how things are done properly, then you can pop into KG and enjoy a light-hearted evening's entertainment

Charlie

[Kristoffer]

Hello, Kasper 81.

I've not tried this agency or any other in Berlin.

But I saw it when I started reserching my trip this weekend.

They seem to be ebony only, see link.

http://ebonypearls. De/pearls.html

Kristoffer

[Elve65]

Hi

I recently reported on a new firm escort-sex24 and their girl Natalie and subsequently Spec20 wrote a positive report on her stable-mate Paris.

Today I also had an outing myself with Paris and I can wholeheartedly endorse Spec's positive recommendation

http://www.escort-sex24.de/paris

She is prettier in reality than in her webpics - always a bonus! She used to be a model until struck by a minor pigmentation malady, and she has a georgeous firm figure with long legs, a flat tummy, nice boobs (man-made) and a very pretty face that really isn't shown to best effect on the website

We chatted a while before and after - she is an intelligent and thoughtful girl and pleasant and relaxed company.

She kisses nicely, her BJ is competent without being exceptional, and she is a nice tight fuck.

Very good value for 100E. I'm not sure whether I'd bother to do her again given the wonderful range of similar opportunities afforded by this great city, but I wouldn't hesitate to commend her to anyone looking for an attractive success-guaranteed session with a hot chick.

I like this agency a lot - they deliver what they promise. She confirmed that they run a genuine 24 hour service which is another plus point. I see that they have added a 3rd girl (Roxanna) - I think I know what I'll be having for breakfast tomorrow!

CharlieThank you for this information!

However, last time in Berlin, I stayed in hotel at Bülowstr. And they did not(!) allowed me to take girl to my room(SW). I like some tips for girlfriendly hotels in Berlin, Schöneberg/Kudam-area. (Not to expensive, max 100e/day or so). Or other tips, maybe the problem is how I handle the staff. But I have no problems in Prague or Budapest.

E65

[Elve65]

KG,Website:http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/

The King George has been on my list of clubs to visit for some time. I have never been to a flat rate club before and indeed the very idea does not sit with me comfortably. Flat rate clubs have sprung up relatively recently as an off shot of the Partytreff scene. While I have also never been to a Partytreff, my good friend Iseeu has told me very accurately what they are about and how they work. While Partytreff seems to be about inexpensive sex, it is also about the party, a swinger atmosphere. At least this is how I understand it.

Thanks as always for reading.

AMGreat report!

KG is a special place and the expirience is good if you know whats waiting. This report is truly a good guide of what a monger has to expekt from KG. I wish I could have read this before my first(and only) visit to this place.

E65

[Wiild]

Thanks for great reporting on the King George! I will visit berlin mid september and might pay this palce a visit. Although you Angus Magee and Charlie 123 were pretty negative (3/10 maybe?) about the place, you described it so well, in great detail that I think I will visit as I think I will enjoy it: I like having a few drinks in seedy strip bars, watching girls, flirting with them, tipping them, drinking some more and then bang them....100euros + 20euros for some dollartipping seems like a good deal if compared to the alternative: expensive cocktailbars or stripclubs or Artemis where quality of fucking is better but where drinks are very expensive and the atmosphere is less seedy. As I will be 5-8 drinks drunk when banging the girls and not be top-performing the quality of girls is not SUPERimportant! :-)

Do you guys agree that Ling George is the way to go? is there any other place I should look into? I have searched for strip bars but find no good ones. thanks.

[Wiild]

I have one fetish: Porn star type girls with big fake boobs: Does anyone have a suggestion for finding a girl with really firm fake boobs? Porn star type girl with many of these: tanned, overdimensioned tits, fake nails, lotsa make-up, skimpy clothes, high heels. thanks!

[Charlie 123]

Misposted on the Artemis thread a couple of days ago and re-posted here with appropriate apologies.

Hi

Paid a visit to King George Flat-Rate Club last night with Angus Magee.

It is a very small club with a bar area and a small lounge behind, incorporating a pole-dancing stage - all a little bit 'worn' but comfortable enough. To the rear is a corridor leading to the 'Zimmers' each of which is relatively sparsely decorated and furnished, but clean and with a shower in the room.

99E was the entry fee - all drinks included. I must have had 6 or 8 vodkas during our 3 hour stay. Champagne is extra, but standard alcoholic drinks are included. You get a few 'pole-dance dollars' with your entry to slip inside the dancers bra or panties and can refill at the rate of one 'dollar' for one euro.

There were 7 or 8 girls in attendance, ranging from one or two who one could categorize as pretty, a mid-section of 4 or 5 'do-able', and one piglet. All of them were Romanian.

There was some pressure to fork out for 'Piccolos' at the usual exorbitant rate and a constant stream of entreaties for 'dollars'. This is not a proper mongering parlour - this is a tourist trap. It's not an aggressive scene, and they do want you to have a good time, but if you are a mug then you will get taken for as much as the girls can squeeze from you. However, Angus and I are pretty experienced in such matters and we quickly and firmly established our authority, whereupon we were able to enjoy a pretty fun evening.

The girls are very much amateurs. By this I don't mean that they are 'hobbyficks'. They are young and inexperienced working girls who don't really know their trade yet. They come across all 'vamp' in the lounge, but in the room, whilst willing, they show their inexperience. This was quite refreshing in a way after several weeks of almost continual attendance at Artemis.

I had the one session only with a dumpy little thing called Anka - a blond with decent tits but a bit of a tummy. What she did have was an endearing personality and a cheeky attitude that emerged as the evening progressed and manifested itself most clearly in the room when she fell off the bed from hysterical laughter as my intended CoB finish (30E extra) actually ended in my own face. She was so excited and happy at this extraordinary and new(to her) outcome that she rushed to tell all her friends (having had the decency to procure first my permission). I thought it was mildly amusing (it wasn't the first time I'd commited a 'Selbstbesamung'), but her delight and amusement rendered it a charming conclusion to a fun little session.

It felt comfortable to have Angus as company at KG and the fact that there were 2 of us made it easier to make it clear to the girls that we are not 'newbies' to the P4P scene who can be mucked about. This made it much easier to create an atmosphere whereby we were 'in charge' and could thus have a bit of fun with these 'silly litte girls'. As a consequence, it turned out to be a good evening.

I happened to go back to Artemis afterwards (I had popped in earlier during the day). The contrast upon entering the lounge at Artemis couldn't have been more stark. The girls there are so confident and professional, whereas KG had felt much more 'amateur hour'.

I enjoyed our evening at KG, as much as a distraction from the serious business of mongering as anything else, but I'd have no reason to go again. The looks and service from the girls just doesn't warrant a return (btw - there are pretty much no 'extras' available - CiM, CoF and anal are all 'off the menu'), and even at the 'all-inclusive' price of 99E for all you can fuck, I'd not be tempted to have another visit unless the quality of ladies took a quantum leap forward.

Recommended, but only if you know your way around the P4P world. If you are new to the game, go to a bordelle or an FKK first and find out how things are done properly, then you can pop into KG and enjoy a light-hearted evening's entertainment

Charlie

[Gergiev]

Does anyone have a suggestion for finding a girl with really firm fake boobs? Porn star type girl with many of these: tanned, overdimensioned tits, fake nails, lotsa make-up, skimpy clothes, high heels. thanks!
Sounds like your average nightly line-up of SWs on Oranienburger Strasse.

Be warned though: many have tried, few have been satisfied...

[Angus Magee]

Do you guys agree that [K]ing George is the way to go? is there any other place I should look into? I have searched for strip bars but find no good ones. thanks.


I think I said pretty much all in my rather extensive report. I am surprised that you read it as my being negative about the place. It is rather a fun spot, just know that it not top tier and you do have to be on your toes. If you are a reasonably experienced monger (as I believe from your recent posts your are-Thailand, Columbia, Brazil Philippines-pretty good resume), stay on your toes and do not expect to meet Claudia Schiffer in the KG-and you like to have a drink or two, you should have a good time.

As for other places-strip bars (table dance) are generally a waste of time in Berlin. La Folie can be good as I think I mentioned. There are a handful of other places I am not too familiar with. Generally I find the whole piccolo thing annoying and it is a mainstay of the bar experience. But if you want to break trail and report, I am sure many gents here would read & appreciate. I know I would.

Have a look at my sort of out of date Berlin ISG guide. It does have a number of suggestions and I seem to remember some bar names and addresses. Under miscellaneous I think.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48

AM

[Wiild]

Sounds like your average nightly line-up of SWs on Oranienburger Strasse.

Be warned though: many have tried, few have been satisfied...

Interesting! similar to those window girls in Hamburgs Reeperbahn!?

I never really understood why pretty attractive girls invest $$ in silicone, nails, cloths etc to scam people on the street, isn't it cold, unpleasant and dangerous for them? better to become escort or work at artemis?

I actually get excited by just looking and takling to these girls before going to a more trustworthy place to fuck. Don't worry about me I keep my wallet at a safe place! :-) at what time should one go, when it's dark? Is it around the S-station called Oranienburger Strasse, 500m from Hackescher Markt?

[Wiild]

Thanks AM, yeah negative have might been the wrong word. What I meant to say is that even you will not go back (Artemis is better quality) you described the place so good that I understood from your words that it might just be the kind of place that I like. som other posters would simply say "worse than artemis", which would not have helped me. and yeah, I have proven to survive in even the worst ripoff piccolobars without loosing too much $$. :-) I sometimes like it to be slightly seedy! :-)


I think I will check out 1-3 of these:

Mon Rouge Leibnizstraße 57 http://www.monrouge.de
kamilla Dee Blissestraße 33 www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm
New King George Grunewaldstraße 23 www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de

maybe even check out the Orangenstrasse rip off scene just to look and if I hear about a mega busty silicone escort girl I might even do that the morning/day after.

[Angus Magee]

I have one fetish: Porn star type girls with big fake boobs: Does anyone have a suggestion for finding a girl with really firm fake boobs? Porn star type girl with many of these: tanned, overdimensioned tits, fake nails, lotsa make-up, skimpy clothes, high heels. thanks!

I have not a lot of suggestions as I do not fancy this type myself. But I can say Jenna at Artemis has huge silicon knockers and is a sweetie to boot. Her make up thing is under control but on the high side shall we say.

You might also check out Liberty as there are a couple of girls there who would fit your profile I think. Diana is the only one I can put a name to though. I have not personally been with her but she gets good press from the Germans. Ukrainian I think. But as i go to post a link it seems she is no longer on the HP. Schade-these girls do come and go with alarming frequency.

You might also have a look here.

http://www.ginas-busenstars.de/haupt.htm

Not sure about the silicon but this bordello seems to specialize in large breasted women.

And stay away from the street trade no matter how tempting they look. The are almost always a disappointment and specialize in giveing as little service for as much cash as possible.

AM

[Kasper 81]

I have one fetish: Porn star type girls with big fake boobs: Does anyone have a suggestion for finding a girl with really firm fake boobs? Porn star type girl with many of these: tanned, overdimensioned tits, fake nails, lotsa make-up, skimpy clothes, high heels. thanks!Well, this is something I am really into myself. My heaven from this point of view is Amsterdam (beautiful tanned blondes, huge silicon tits, 50€ suck and fuck for 20 minutes).

Berlin. Hmmm, not the right place I guess.

A friend of mine visited a busty blonde working on the street fitting your identikit. It was a ripoff, spent about 100 € for hand job and blow job in the bushes. Terrible! I would never try these girls in Berlin. But yes, these chicks are hot as hell. Maybe it is a good option to "charge up" with them, and then download in cheaper pussies.

In my next visit to Berlin I will visit, among the others, MONROUGE. Been there once, paid 70€ for 30min suck and fuck. It was a nice session with a beautiful brunette from Bulgaria (can't see her now on the website). Sweet, no rush, definitely to repeat!

I heard that if you go there in weekdays and not in the evening, it is possible to have a 1 hour session with 2 pops for 100€. Do you know whether it is true? I would like to taste Valencia or Emily. Any experience with these girls?

Have a nice day all you fellow lovers of the pink box!

[Wiild]

Thanks, Liberty is now on my list, good to have a daytime place in the city centre: breakfast, Liberty, lunch? Busenstars current line up seemed....uninspiring.

[Toscana]

You might also check out Liberty as there are a couple of girls there who would fit your profile I think. Diana is the only one I can put a name to though. I have not personally been with her but she gets good press from the Germans. Ukrainian I think. But as i go to post a link it seems she is no longer on the HP. Schade-these girls do come and go with alarming frequency.Could be you mean this Diana?

http://www.top-prestige.de/diana.htm

who also appears - more expensively - as Anastasia here:

http://www.vankampenberlin.de/

Note the different times.

She's on my radar too. Not been with her, and for Wiild, one cannot be sure from the pictures how firm those silis are, but, yes, great reports, and, yes, very much PSE by all accounts. Do us all a favour and try her out!

[Angus Magee]

Could be you mean this Diana?

http://www.top-prestige.de/diana.htm

who also appears - more expensively - as Anastasia here:

http://www.vankampenberlin.de/

Note the different times.

She's on my radar too. Not been with her, and for Wiild, one cannot be sure from the pictures how firm those silis are, but, yes, great reports, and, yes, very much PSE by all accounts. Do us all a favour and try her out!

While I am not 100% sure (remember I have not seen her) I do think that is her. She had a number of very good reviews on VB (German forum) and a couple of not so good ones saying that she was mechanical. But then I personally wonder if even the best performer can have a few days of down service or meet a punter who just does not appeal and she has to go through the motions.

Of course if it is me who gets the mechanical session I am not happy. But I always understand that chemistry plays a large part in commercial sex. Sometimes she is just not that into you. Who can really blame a girl for that?

AM

[Gergiev]

I never really understood why pretty attractive girls invest $$ in silicone, nails, cloths etc to scam people on the street, isn't it cold, unpleasant and dangerous for them? better to become escort or work at artemis?

I actually get excited by just looking and takling to these girls before going to a more trustworthy place to fuck. Don't worry about me I keep my wallet at a safe place! :-) at what time should one go, when it's dark? Is it around the S-station called Oranienburger Strasse, 500m from Hackescher Markt?
Hard to say but some girls do actually enjoy the buzz (and occasional danger) of the whole street thing.

When it gets dark, you could exit the U-bahn at Oranienburger Tor and walk down towards Hackescher Markt.

After a short stroll you'll see the girls on the street.

The park with the bushes Kasper referred to is on the right and there are also girls on the streets off to the left.

If you walk up and down a few times you'll soon get your bearings.


Incidentally, if you're considering going to MonRouge, I would have thought Maya there might fit your requests.

Not sure about the silicone but she definitely looks the part and is well received in these pages.

http://www.monrouge.de/maya_neu.html

[Angus Magee]

Just posted on Angus' blog is the walk from Blissestr. UBahn to KD bordello in Berlin. Please have a look at the video imbed with commentary. It was a beautiful morning in Berlin and I shot early. Nice lighting and less people. This did not stop an old and slightly crazed German gentleman from giving Angus an earful as he stepped away from KD's front door after finishing the first take (it took two this time). All I understood about the tirade was "Hure" or who*es...
So I guess this guy knew where I was. I kind of wish I had the tirade on video.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=317

Enjoy the video

AM

[Angus Magee]

I heard that if you go there in weekdays and not in the evening, it is possible to have a 1 hour session with 2 pops for 100€. Do you know whether it is true? I would like to taste Valencia or Emily. Any experience with these girls?!

It used to be true but I am not sure if they still offer the daytime (book or arrive for a session no later than 16:00) special. I used to see one girl on a regular basis this way. Also I am not sure of the two pops in an hour as I am usually a one pop/hr monger. In any case they did not advertise the special, you had to know about it and ask for it.

The drawback is that the daytime line up is not as big as the night time. They have a couple (maybe 3-4) of regular daytime girls and that is it. So if the girl you hunger for is a night girl, no luck.

AM

[The AF]

Just posted on Angus' blog is the walk from Blissestr. UBahn to KD bordello in Berlin. Please have a look at the video imbed with commentary. It was a beautiful morning in Berlin and I shot early. Nice lighting and less people. This did not stop an old and slightly crazed German gentleman from giving Angus an earful as he stepped away from KD's front door after finishing the first take (it took two this time). All I understood about the tirade was "Hure" or who*es...
So I guess this guy knew where I was. I kind of wish I had the tirade on video.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=317

Enjoy the video

AM


Dear Angus,

interesting walk through..!! I am particulary interested in an info that you included as a comment in your walk to Artemis, commenting on the construction site before the entrance. Two questions:

1) How old is that video of yours?

2) Is there any news about the rumors concerning a Laufhaus on that location?

A Laufhaus in the style of Western German Eros Centers would be terriffic in Berlin. I still have hopes they gonna open that one on Potsdamer Strasse/Kurfuerstenstrasse...

Thanks and best regards,
The AF

[Kasper 81]

Dear friends,

I would like to share with you an idea that grew in my mind lately, about flat rate brothels.

I believe the concept is very nice, yet not exploited at its best. I only visited Caligula (see earlier report), and the problem is that I got bored pretty soon. I love sex, but I am a normal person with many interests (being pussy only one of them), and I find it somehow a waste of time to spend many many hours in a brothel, considering the fact that if you go by yourself you have very little to do between sessions (being a non-German, I always go as a solo-monger in Berlin...).

The idea we should circulate is the one already existing for other clubs or all-inclusive resorts: a nice plastic BRACELET allowing you to get in&out of the venue as many times as you wish, in a given day (those bracelets that you can only get rid of by ripping them, so you cannot pass them to friends). It would be like a dream come true having the chance, for let’s say 100€, to get up in the morning, spend a couple of hours in the brothel and taste a couple of girls, then get out, do your stuff and maybe have lunch, get back and sample other two girls, then out and get back after dinner to complete your days with a couple of evening pussies... This would really allow people like me to fuck “as much as we like” avoiding at once the problem of “between sessions boredom”. Considering that many mongers are tourists in Berlin, this would allow them to have a day full of pussy, without wasting the day itself from the point of view of traditional tourism!

And of course, the bracelet doesn’t have to have written BROTHEL in large characters on it... it could be a bracelet with an anonymous sign or code that only doormen at the club recognise...

I would like to know what you think about this (especially I would like to hear from Angus, who is becoming my hero, after all his posts!!), and if we have any hope that some clubs might adopt this new policy...

Lastly, after reading all posts here and surfing extensively the web, I decided my schedule for the three days in Berlin (mid September):

Day one:

Fredenhaus (Jasmin, tried already, http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/jasmin.html) in the morning
Monrouge (possibly Maya, Valencia or Emily) in the evening

Day two:

MILF from Rose16 (if nice milfs available) otherwise Liberty in the morning
Fredenhaus (Angel, http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/angel.html) in the afternoon

Day three:

Either Europa Salon (Christina, http://www.europasalon.de/christina.html) in the morning and LaDolceVita (julia, http://www.pinup-modelle.de/julia.html) in the afternoon or viceversa, depending on when the girls work

Three days of great sex for around 250€ seems a perfect deal. Please, in case you know by experience that any of these brothels are seedy or “risky” let me know... I might be a monger but I am still very concerned about health related issues, and want to play it safe as much as I can.

Thank you for reading this long post, I am curious to receive feedbacks and, of course, I will provide details about my trip to Berlin as soon as I get back home, next month.

Kasper

[Bobo.fr]

I don't remember who looked for big breasted ladies in Berlin ( at that moment, Fiona and Margo at KD were mentioned).

Apparently, there is a new lady at KD who has big breast :
http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/elena-e.htm.

[Angus Magee]

Dear Angus,

interesting walk through..!! I am particulary interested in an info that you included as a comment in your walk to Artemis, commenting on the construction site before the entrance. Two questions:

1) How old is that video of yours?

2) Is there any news about the rumors concerning a Laufhaus on that location?

A Laufhaus in the style of Western German Eros Centers would be terriffic in Berlin. I still have hopes they gonna open that one on Potsdamer Strasse/Kurfuerstenstrasse...

Thanks and best regards,
The AF

Hi The AF

The Walk with Angus video to Artemis was shot the day before I posted it so August 11. But the tire store has been gone for some months.It has just been an empty lot used for parking the past two or three months. The Laufhaus is but a rumor. As far as I know there is to be an out door facility (swim pool, deck, etc.) there-an hopefully a large sound barrier.

I have been trying to set up an interview with Artemis management in my new role of Berlin's premier sex journalist to find out such things. So far they are proving more difficult to woo than I imagined. But I keep trying. Maybe as my blog keeps getting more and more traffic they will be more forth coming.

I have also heard about the Potsdamerstr.Laufhaus on the site of the LSD sex shop & kino. It has been on the table for ages but there is apparently strenuous neighborhood objection and that is hard to get past. I am doubtful one will be built there.

AM

[Angus Magee]

I don't remember who looked for big breasted ladies in Berlin ( at that moment, Fiona and Margo at KD were mentioned).

Apparently, there is a new lady at KD who has big breast :
http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/elena-e.htm.

All I can sa is WOW. Those are some knockers! There was a girl a couple of years back at Tomsen whose name escapes me but who had a similar set. While I m not really a huge breast fan I did book a session with this girl as she was also very pretty. The real disappointment came when she told me that while she like her breasts admired, it was basically look but do not touch as they were so sensitive as to hurt when touched. At least this was her story. Being in the same room with such knockers and not being able to kiss and caresse is sheer torture. Hopefully this girl has no such affliction.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Dear friends,

I would like to share with you an idea that grew in my mind lately, about flat rate brothels.

I would like to know what you think about this (especially I would like to hear from Angus, who is becoming my hero, after all his posts!!), and if we have any hope that some clubs might adopt this new policy...

Well it isa good idea but the only club to which it would really be applicable is Caligula which opens at 11:00 til 05:00 the next day. KG is only open at 16:00 as are most clubs, or later.

I am not sure Caligula would be interested as I think their business model is more the squeeze every dollar you can from us horny mongers and do not give em a breaK.Even their €30 day time rate is open to their own interpretation as I hear.

And Artemis already has this all day policy in place.They even cut off the band and issue you a new one upon presentation of tout ID.How handi is that.

AM

[Wiild]

thanks on the tips on silicone babes, both maya and diana/anastacia seem to be my type! :-) and i will take a peep at silicon strasse. i do enjoy the thrill, seedyness and slight danger of those situations although i think that after 10-30 minutes i will have enough....and no, during those minutes i am not likelly to have spent any money, i will keep my wallet at a very safe place. :-)

[Angus Magee]

.They even cut off the band and issue you a new one upon presentation of tout ID.How handi is that.

AM

Not sure what the "tout" means. I write sometimes and am a little bit tired, last night was an example.

Again, with Artemis you can sign out at the desk, they take your wrist band an issue a new one upon reentry in the same day. To expect Caligula to do this, with its' rather sleazy demeanor, might be a bit of a stretch. Even if they did take your wrist band and sign you out, dollars to donuts they would not remember you when you tried to reenter.

That and I am not sure if such clubs as Caligula are really ready to employ such Chamber of Commerce tourist friendly business models. They strike me as more snatch and grab establishments.

But as I say, I fully support the concept and will run it by and club owners I happen to speak with. The owner, or at least manager, at KG I think would be open to at least hearing it. But then, as mentioned, they are only open from16:00 onwards.

AM

[Hektor T]

3) Bel Ami
I remembered bad posts about Bel Ami, may be this one (only ?)
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=908773&postcount=1688

BelAmi seems to have fallen victim to the economic crisis. Whereas beforehand it was a whole house (like Villa Rascona still is -- see below), they have closed up shop and moved to Charlottenberg where they occupy a much smaller premise that is like a gentlemen's cigar club populated by beautiful willing creatures.

At the old location an hour at BelAmi would have run you 450eur including a bottle of champagne. That was the minimum outlay. I guess that's why it got bad reviews here, as anybody on ISG reviewing a girl for over 200eur/hour is usually accused of overpaying. In the new location the price is 160€/hour "but girls like to have champagne too". So we'll call it 360eur/hour as the half bottle of champagne runs 90eur (which does not close the deal -- I found out the hard way, but did not regret the expenditure one bit because I've often spent more to spend an equal amount of time in a bar or club with much less charming company) but a full bottle runs 200eur or more. In summary, if you walk in here, count on walking out rock hard and alone, or with a wallet 400eur or more lighter. But it's quite a party and the clientele is very friendly and upscale.

So is it worth it? If you like highly motivated beautiful girls it is worth every penny. Of course there are no guarantees, but those who are reading this and prefer that sort of arrangement probably have a good idea of what to expect and will most likely appreciate this info. Quality wise all the girls have beautiful faces and apart from that there is quite a bit of variety.

In response to Bobo's earlier question about where to get an upscale girl when KD fails, Villa Rascona is a good substitute, if a little more expensive. There is is 30eur to go in (includes one drink) plus 160Eur the half hour. 300eur gets you an hour plus a bottle of champagne. The girls are very nice, but on average much older and one notch down looks wise when compared to BelAmi.

There is one more top place near tiergarten that a taxi driver told me about. If I recall correctly the price was somewhat less than Villa Rascona but more than KD, but I don't remember the name.

Chez Nina? Nein!! Read my old report. The location is top class, but you pay top price for doing it in an ultra-luxurious room with a girl who would fall below average in Liberty!

While i'm on the topic of high end places in Berlin, after quite a bit more research I can add to my previous posts and some unanswered questions that frequently come up.

- Where to meet Pros in Bars:
Newton Bar (everybody says they are there, but they are over 30 and I never saw any that i would have tried for)
Harry's New York Bar (Hotel Esplanade - really dress up)
First Club (hard to get in - dress up)

There are other places but these are the names that come up most often. In the bars you are looking at 30-40yo or more. In First Club it is 20-30yo from all the top clubs and strip bars who are off work after 2 or 3AM and want to make a killing in one night. So they say we can go for 700eur. And when you ask how long the answer is most likely, "I don't know"? Because the idea is to get 700eur. If you like that idea that best idea is to go Friday and arrange to meet for dinner saturday and then keep her all night. That plan works.

Otherwise I think a lot of off duty sex workers go to KitKat Club for the really late after party. They are definitely there and most aren't working there. Two girls came up to me once in Kit kat at about 6AM and said, we saw you in Artemis. I said, I haven't been there in over a year, and they said, yeah! It was last year, then when I wanted to talk about it they ran away because they were trying to be incognito. Also you have some of those top heavy silicon babes from oranienbergerstrasse going in there acting equally cold (i.e. giving the cold shoulder to everybody) and I've seen a definite pro from first club in there and a lot of other really hot girls.

- Meeting Black girls: There is one black Pro i met at a few times at an afterwork party and she tells me that a lot of hot girls are in Cafe Pssst, including many beautiful black girls. But you just have to find the right night. since the only night I was ever there was Monday, I guess that is the wrong night!

- Escorts: Look at my previous report on EscortIn and others. But guys who are looking for a beautiful top escort in Berlin aren't going to get it for any cheaper than in Munich, and maybe it will be more. For 700eur you can get a top Czech girl for the whole night and if she takes the bus or train it is probably less than 100eur travel! Look at www.prague-adult-escorts.com

[Angus Magee]

There is one more top place near tiergarten that a taxi driver told me about. If I recall correctly the price was somewhat less than Villa Rascona but more than KD, but I don't remember the name.

Hi Hektor,

Once again an high quality post. Good to have a high end expert here. Charlie and I crawling around in sleaze pits like the King sure ain't going to get you there.

I wonder if the above mentioned place might be Erotikakademie?

http://www.erotikakademie.eu/index.php?lang=en&PHPSESSID=35d44d48954cefa56e5b0ec0c9bdfff7

I know they are in Tiergarten and once when I phoned I remember the prices shocked me so they should be then in your area of expertise. I also know that there is a report or two way back in the thread somewhere on their escort services.

Thanks for the report again.

AM

[Bobo.fr]

Thanks Hector, for your post.



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[Borat69]

hi can anyone suggest the best areas to live in Berlin for 4-6 months? Looking to rent an apartment out there. heard Mitte and Charlottenburg are both decent?

[Hotcole]

Hi All,

I'll be headed to Berlin in a couple days, and I was after some help making a decision.

I've trawled through a lot of the fantastic research available here and done as much 'legwork' as I can. There's a lot of great suggestions on this forum but unfortunately I have limited time (in Berlin) and resources so I can't visit all the recommended people and places. (the reports of distinction thread was particularly useful - it's a frikkin' goldmine).

I'm indecisive at the best of times, and this, my first venture into a 'bordell', is no different.

I'm after a memorable, first experience in Berlin and really can't decide between FKK Artemis, Freudenhaus, Tiffanys and Mon Rouge.

I basically want a good first experience, that avoids girls upselling and clockwatching. I'd also be looking to enjoy two girls at the same time.

So which place do YOU think I should visit? (feel free to suggest others, these were just what my research lead me to believe were my best bets). Where am I most likely to get the above? (also if you have an idea of prices for two girls at the same time that would be most welcome as I've struggled to find these a bit).

Also I've been considering KCs, but would you guys suggest avoiding it as a first-timer?

[Angus Magee]

hi can anyone suggest the best areas to live in Berlin for 4-6 months? Looking to rent an apartment out there. heard Mitte and Charlottenburg are both decent?

Ho Borat,

I think it depends on what you look for and your budget. Both areas you mention are nice and on the more pricy side. Wilmersdorf is also nice as is Schöneberg.

Mitte and the slightly further (from the center) Prinzlauerberg have a younger feel to them. Personally I would recommend Schöneberg as it is reasonable and very central and home to a few really nice bordellos.

AM

[Angus Magee]

The second, poorer (in my eyes) bordello in the Liberty empire is due to change ownership, word has it on the German forum. I have always found SP to be a disappointment. I did not have meny sessions there but they were almost always sort of flat for some reason. I guess I find the place sort of dark and it gives me a sort of crowded feel when I go. That and the line up seemed sparse.

I hope who ever takes over spruces the place up a bit. The baronial furniture has to go IMO.


I will post any further news as it happens or as I find out.

AM

[Angus Magee]

I'll be headed to Berlin in a couple days, and I was after some help making a decision.

Nothing is ever simple when you ask Angus ;) But I will try to make it so.

And Jesus H. I should be getting paid for this sometime. Maybe a consultancy service? Angus Magee's Hooker Consultancy Ltd. We decide so you can ride. Something like that but it is getting awfully close to pimp-dom and I am not sure I want to go there.

The four you listed:

Artemis: great selection, comfortable surroundings but can be intimidating if it your first time in a big bordello, even more so if your first time with a hooker. The decision making can be difficult and if you have a hard time with decisions, well...'nuff said.

Freudenhaus: In the sticks sort of. Inexpensive (comparatively) but the girl quality varies as does service. It is also sort a public venue in that you walk up the stairs with possibly other punters. Not so good if you embarrase easily at that sort of thing which many 1st time bordello goers do. But some of the girls here are really down to earth and nice. But as I say, not always first tier.

Tiffanies: Could be a good chice for a first time bordello goer. They even have a first time "love school" though this maybe just a marketing gimmick.I have never been to this bordello but my gut tells me it is a bit of a"factory" and some of the girls can be mechanical. But then this is the same everywhere so maybe it is not valid criticism. Especially as I have not been there. The rates are reasonable as are extras, much more so than other bordellos.

Mon Rouge-Over all a good choice and I can think of no real negatives here. Also Charlie 123 has pretty much reviewed 75% or so of the girls personally over the past year or so. So you do have some good on the ground info to guide you here. But it is not the cheapest place in town, nor the most expensive. Extras are not cheap and should be approached with caution lest your hour at 130 suddenly mushrooms to 190.

KCs? Did you mean KDs? (Kamilla Dees)or maybe KGs(King George). If KD this is, or would be, my over all 1st choice for a 1st time bordello goer. It is expensive on the hour but no extras except anal (€50) and thus you know what you spend and do not get asked for more. The ladies are very professional but do not come across as so. You can have a high chance of a GFE here if you are a considerate and gentle guest who expresses his desires-that is don't make the lady guess what turns you on. Be upfront. Or if you do not really know what turns you on, or are just too damn embarrassed to really say so (as used to be the case with me) be upfront about that. Just be upfront.

King George, well, read my report then you tell me if this is where you wan your first bordello experience to be.

Usually the two girl thing is at twice the basic fee. That is two girls for a half hour at Liberty would be 120/half hour (2 times €60). But if you want them to interact, lesbi stuff, expect a fee on top of this for each girl. Again, at Liberty it would be for the half hour 120 + 25+25 or 170 for a duet with lebi action. If you just want them to work on you with absolutely no interaction it might be with out the extra 25 per. I am not sure on this.

At Artemis the duo thing is even more dear. for the half, 60+60 (the basic girl rate) +50+50(the lesbi stuff) for a total of 220 per half. I could be wrong on this but I think not.

Personally I think the duo thing is overrated unless you do a lot of pre planning and ground work at a place like Artemis and find two girl who are actually sort of into each other and do get off on it. Other wise it often comes across as sort of fake (it is) and disappointing. But then I have done the duo thing more than once and it has lost its' real fascination for me. At one point in my life I was willing to do almost anything to see two hot girls lick each other out. So take that into consideration.

Hope this helps. In the end just have the experience. Don't think too too much about it as this can take away from the immediacy of the moment it happens. Not easy (not thinking) but essential to a good experience IMO.

Oh, and before I forget, I expect a reasonable report for all of this. Nothing fancy but do sign in with your experience and keep the Berlin thread vibrant.

AM

[Bobby Cph]

Hi All,

I'll be headed to Berlin in a couple days, and I was after some help making a decision.My first visit to a bordello was to KD. I had for some months been frequently visiting massage salons with only HJ as an option. So it took some time for me to realise that I was interested in more than just a 'happy ending'.

KD was great for a first visit. Relaxed, professionel and as AM puts it - be honest about it if you're nervous. This can only make your session better. I would probably recommend one of Berlins apartment bordellos anytime over Artemis or a flatrate place like KG. But then again - I have yet to visit a place like those.

[Europunter]

Just posted on Angus' blog is the walk from Blissestr. UBahn to KD bordello in Berlin. Please have a look at the video imbed with commentary.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=317

Enjoy the video

AMHi Angus,

Thoroughly enjoyed the video. It brings back great memories of my six visits to KD over the past several years. Sadly, the video will have to do it for me this year, as my annual trip to Berlin has been moved to Cologne this year.
Not a bad city, but not Berlin.

Your video reminds me of my usual post-KD ritual. A glass of beer at the Mexican restaurant further down Blissestrasse and a brisk walk down Uhlandstrasse to the Hotel Savoy.

Thanks, again. I really enjoy your work!

[Medtechexpat]

Hello all,

Long time lurker, first time poster. I've been to Berlin a few times and always had great experiences at Kamilla Dee. This time around, I've decided to try Artemis (first time at FKK). Can someone please advise how I settle my bill at the end of my stay? Any possibility to use credit card or must I bring a fistful of Euros?

I will be at Artemis this Saturday afternoon (and if all goes well, all day Sunday!) if anyone would care to meet up for a drink.

Cheers!

[Charlie 123]

Hi,

There has been some speculation on these pages about this relatively new bordelle specialising in MILFs and located on Martin Luther Str in Schoeneberg. With a few hours to kill before my appointment with an escort girl I had lined up for early evening, I decided to pop in and check it out.

Having perused their website at length on many occasions, I had come to the conclusion that Rose16 is a resting place for older hookers who can't any more hack it in the competitive Berlin P4P environment and that dirty blowjobs and facials would be available from experienced old pros with pornstar techniques if not visuals.

Actually, it's a pretty ordinary Wohnungspuff that happens to specialise to some extent in older dames. The flat is on the 5th floor (there is a lift) above the sex cinema booths at 16 Martin Luther Str, and is nicely decorated. There were 4 ladies present, the dumpy thing who opened the door, two slim and quite pretty girls in their late 20's and MILF Gitti whom I chose, mainly because she and the dumpy one were the only ones offering 'Blowjob Total'. So, my idea that this was going to be an 'Alles Moglich' establishment was not borne out in practice.

http://www.rose16.de/gitti1.html

I was offered 20 minutes for 40E or half an hour for 50E - I chose the latter. BBBJCim was included. She was pleasant enough and she had a decent figure with nice big tits, although she is definitely older than her website description and photos might suggest. Her face is a little haggard, but she was friendly and gave good service, so I was happy enough. Her BJ was slow, wet and hands-free - a pleasant change from the frenzied performances that is so often the standard fare at Artemis with 'new' girls. I fucked her in mish for a (very) few minutes whilst she made all the right noises. As a 'quickie', it was fine if unexceptional.

Rose16 suprised me, but only by its ordinariness. I was expecting it to be either a terrific venue for filthy sex with desperate old MILFs, or a dreadful dive whose only redeeming feature lay in the fact that Liberty's is next door to console me when I walked out after 30 seconds. In the end, it is just another small bordelle like many others. The pricing structure is attractive, they appear service-orientated, and for those on a budget it is certainly worthy of consideration. For me though, I'd rather spend a little more and get better-looking girls, so I am unlikely to return.

Charlie

[Hardbone]

Dear friends,

I would like to share with you an idea that grew in my mind lately, about flat rate brothels.

The idea we should circulate is the one already existing for other clubs or all-inclusive resorts: a nice plastic BRACELET allowing you to get in&out of the venue as many times as you wish, in a given day (those bracelets that you can only get rid of by ripping them, so you cannot pass them to friends).You can do that at least at KG (maybe also at Caligula but I'm not sure). At least I was told at KG that I can leave and go somewhere else to eat and come back later. They just trust their memory and do not use bracelets (who would like to walk around Berlin with a bracelet saying free entrance to a flatrate brothel, lol)

[Firsttimeraver]

Hi Fokes,

Newbie here (I hope I'm putting this in the right place, apologies if not)

I'll be making a trip with friends over to Berlin in the next week and would like to know where you would recommend for 3 young lads late teens early 20's new to this party heard good things about Artemis but would it be right for first timers? also it looks a bit pricey.

Thanks in advance

Best regards,

[Maoxxx]

Can someone please advise how I settle my bill at the end of my stay? Any possibility to use credit card or must I bring a fistful of Euros?
They have a cash machine at the reception at artemis. I haven't used it myself. I always pay hookers by cash.

Good Luck!

[Hektor T]

Hi Hektor,

Once again an high quality post. Good to have a high end expert here. Charlie and I crawling around in sleaze pits like the King sure ain't going to get you there.

I wonder if the above mentioned place might be Erotikakademie?

AM

Angus it wasn't Erotikakademie, it was Odette Bordelle or something like that. 180€/hour but from the website I can't see why

I read your blog and the post you referred to. Re: why guys will pay more, I guess it's two reasons:

1. Trying to avoid wasting time
2. The best way to say it is that I was going to write, skip your next 2-3 visits and take all the money and go to one of the places I listed and tell us what you think. But then I didnt because I realized, some people won't feel comfortable in that environment and it will be worth even less to them in that case. Same is true with the girls working there. Some for sure will go for the extra money if they can get it, while working cheap also. But the 9/10 or 10/10 girl can easily find a guy to pay everything and only work a little on the side. I'm sure there are as many reasons as there are people for all of the different tastes. But what never ceases to amaze me is why on forums like this, people are so vocal about why people should never pay more than X !! Especially when they are almost surely not willing to speak up about people paying for any other luxury expenditures

[Angus Magee]

Can someone please advise how I settle my bill at the end of my stay? Any possibility to use credit card or must I bring a fistful of Euros?
Hi,

This would be better handled in the Artemis thread but I won't stand on ceremony about it. I do suggest a trip over there for a read by way of preparation and ground work before your visit.

Artemis is a strictly pay as you go experience. That is you pay the desk to enter (€80) then pay the girl when you finish a session (€60/half hr.+any extras) in cash stored in your small cash locker by the front desk. For further details, extra costs etc., research the aforementioned Artemis thread.It is all there.

As for credit-I am sure (well not 100% sure as credit is a luxury denied Angus) the front desk can make a cash advance on credit or something but the charge for the service is likely to be severe. Maybe someone else knows better but again-Artemis thread. There is also some sort of cash point ATM but likewise a big service charge. Much better to bring cash from the place you normally with draw I think. But no, you can not give your card to the girl, unless you really want to be riden. If you know what I mean.

[Charlie 123]

Hi

Today marked the third final chapter in my escort-sex24.de research project, in the person of Roxana.

http://www.escort-sex24.de/roxana

Both the two previous girls supplied to my room by this well-organised and reliable agency were first-class, but the best was saved to last.

Paris and Natalie are both very pretty, Paris extremely so, whilst Roxanne is plainer. She is quite short, straight dark hair, trim figure, small boobs and a sweet face with a slightly toothy smile. The other two girls are better to look at, Roxana is better to fuck.

It was one of those occasions where we just 'clicked'. She showered, dried herself off and then sat astride me with my cock pressed against her pussy whilst she rocked backwards and forwards whilst we kissed softly.

Briefly, I licked her out for about 15 mins until she reached 'O', then she administered a very pleasant soft BBBJ and then we fucked in various positions. Nothing terribly unusual to report sex-wise, but it was just one of those really terrific sessions when the girl was really into it.

This agency is highly recommended here. Roxana was the perfect GFE, Paris was a superb Optifick and Natalie the prototype PSE. Something for everybody - so long as you choose the girl that suits your mood, you should be very satisfied @ 100 Euros per hour with most 'extras' thrown in.

Of the 3, Roxana is the one that I'll be seeing again

Mission complete,

Cheers

Charlie

[Mac75]

I've used the ATM in Artemis a number of times, it is a standard ATM with no additional charges other than charges you may incur using any other ATM in Berlin. I think you can pay the entrance fee with a credit card, I don't think there is an additional surcharge for that either. All payment to the girls is cash only.

[Tompnis]

The second, poorer (in my eyes) bordello in the Liberty empire is due to change ownership, word has it on the German forum. I have always found SP to be a disappointment. I did not have meny sessions there but they were almost always sort of flat for some reason. I guess I find the place sort of dark and it gives me a sort of crowded feel when I go. That and the line up seemed sparse.

I hope who ever takes over spruces the place up a bit. The baronial furniture has to go IMO.

I will post any further news as it happens or as I find out.

AMYes this is my understanding. The woman who owns Liberty and SP apparently is "selling" SP -- not as profitable at all. Never been there but I know one of the girls (who has also worked at Liberty) and said it is dreadful and they can have whole evenings without any real business. As the business model is apparently to split the timed rate 50/50 between the girl and the house and the girl keeps all the money from extras, there is not much money to be made. Anyway she told me I would hate SP as much as I love Liberty. Maybe new ownership is exactly what it needs

[Angus Magee]

I've used the ATM in Artemis a number of times, it is a standard ATM with no additional charges other than charges you may incur using any other ATM in Berlin. I think you can pay the entrance fee with a credit card, I don't think there is an additional surcharge for that either. All payment to the girls is cash only.


Now do keep in mind that I do not use credit. I think that there was a discusion about this on one of the other threads but when paying credit to enter of course it is as with any other credit transaction, no charge unless you include the over all cost of credit. Don't get me started;)

But is it not true that getting a cash advance from a business on credit (that is you do not buy anything, your entry fee, but they just give you cash and put through a transaction for it) can incur a service fee from them? As high as 10% of the transaction? I could be wrong but I think it is the case.

This would in all honesty be better asked in the General FKK thread as more seasoned FKK visitors who have actual experience would see it.

As for ATMs, I know my bank charges me comparatively exorbitant rates to use machines not belonging to them. But then Angus, with his bank balance hovering at €0.00, is not exactly a valued bank customer. More like they tolerate him and are always trying to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) him off and get him to take his non business elsewhere.

[Angus Magee]

Hi Lads,

Just published on AM blog, The Berlin Scene, Berlin bordello overview part one of two, I hope.(that it is only two that is) It may not be new to you seasoned Berlin mongers but Angus' blog is always a good read. If I may say so myself.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=336

Read, enjoy and if you feel to, comment

AM

[Bearsk]

And we questioned your ScotTish heritage??!...


Now do keep in mind that I do not use credit. I think that there was a discusion about this on one of the other threads but when paying credit to enter of course it is as with any other credit transaction, no charge unless you include the over all cost of credit. Don't get me started;)

But is it not true that getting a cash advance from a business on credit (that is you do not buy anything, your entry fee, but they just give you cash and put through a transaction for it) can incur a service fee from them? As high as 10% of the transaction? I could be wrong but I think it is the case.

This would in all honesty be better asked in the General FKK thread as more seasoned FKK visitors who have actual experience would see it.

As for ATMs, I know my bank charges me comparatively exorbitant rates to use machines not belonging to them. But then Angus, with his bank balance hovering at €0.00, is not exactly a valued bank customer. More like they tolerate him and are always trying to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) him off and get him to take his non business elsewhere.

[Bearsk]

Charlie
Please to the point, are the Busen real or fake?
Bear.sk

http://www.rose16.de/gitti1.html
I was offered 20 minutes for 40E or half an hour for 50E - I chose the latter. BBBJCim was included. She was pleasant enough and she had a decent figure with nice big tits ....
Charlie

[Angus Magee]

And we questioned your ScotTish heritage??!...


Anyone who questions my Scots heritage is invited to have a look under my kilt ;)

If you dare.

But yes we do know how to squeeze a penny to get a pound. I despise service charges but as mentioned I have never been a preferred bank customer. All that may change once I sell the movie rights to the blog.

[Angus Magee]

Angus it wasn't Erotikakademie, it was Odette Bordelle or something like that. 180€/hour but from the website I can't see why

Hi,

Yes of course. I always seem to forget this place. I can not really understand the price they charge at Odette, not that I have been there. I do know for a fact though that one of their girls used to work for one of the €90 single owner escort agencies. She was a very good session (GFE for me) but I can not quite see her as a €200+ (with extras) hooker. Maybe Odette comes from the Martha Stewart school of marketing muff. Charge $1 for you muffins and you sell one. Charge $2 for the same muffin and you sell a dozen. And maybe the lady I know has just improved her craft to the point where she can pull it off? I do not slag her for this but applaude. Not with my wallet out unfortunately.



I read your blog and the post you referred to. Re: why guys will pay more, I guess it's two reasons:

I am sorry if I give the impression of thinking you a fool to pay more. In actual fact I do not. We all have our reasons for mongering in the places and at the level we monger.I do know this.

By way of explanation though: I am a bit of a proletariat monger. For reasons that I might explain via pm (as I do not want to get too personal here at the moment, that is expose too much personal back ground) I do tend to favor the less expensive (well Artemis too, which over all ain't cheap)) side of the hobby. But you certainly raise some vary valid points and in fact have Angus in a bit of a lather over there high class tarts. You may well convert me if I can raise the dosh...

I also do try, in my blog and here, to let guys know that mongering can be done within reasonable expenditure limits. For me some of the fun is finding the gems, the diamonds in the rough who just need a bit of polish to shine. I do, as some have noted, spend rather a great deal of time, effort and do not forget cash on this hobby.

I will state publicly that I am quite willing for my financial circumstances to rise so that I can more fully appreciate your side of things.

I sincerely do thank you for all your posts and acknowledge your expertise in this market. The Berlin thread is much richer for it.

AM

[Ban Ama]

Where can I find Japanese Girls in Berlin? Most Asian I know is about thai girls.

[Angus Magee]

Newbie here (I hope I'm putting this in the right place, apologies if not)

I am not sure if it the right place. If it is a question specifically about Artemis then probably not. If you posted in the Artemis thread you would likely get opinions other than mine as I seem to be the primary good will ambassador here in the Berlin thread. So you might want to post it there.

My opinion? Three early late teen early twenty lads could have a lot of fun at Artemis but it is not cheap and you do not want to go in underfunded IMO. Many girls there might not want to go with you if you are three drunken, boisterous lads. But if you keep that under control some girls do really go for the more youthful guys. Of course you will still be paying the going rate for their services and do not expect to get a discount just because you are ripped and maybe still have a 6 pack (abdominal muscles) as opposed to the belly many of us older guys carry. Be gentle men and you'll be right.

That is about all I am willing to say as I think the chances of a report from three young lads here in Berlin to get some muff are slim. Read the forum, Artemis thread, Berlin thread and maybe my blog and prove me wrong about that report.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Where can I find Japanese Girls in Berlin? Most Asian I know is about thai girls.

Japanese girls are sort of the mythical Holy Grail of Asian aficionados. It is never easy as many girls will advertise as such but the chance of them actually being Japanese are slim at best. There used to be a girl both at Liberty and, I believe, at KD advertising as Japanese. But both seem to be absent from the respective websites now. I just checked.

The best I can do is suggest Toni at Liberty. She is not Japanese, not even Asian in fact. But she is a sweetie and has a sort of young Asian girl energy to her, a bit Hentai if you know what I mean.

http://www.libertyberlin.de/toni.html

She is a real part timer, her age is authentically 19 and she is more delicate than the pics suggest. I had a very nice easy session a couple of months back and would repeat for the hour if funds permitted.

AM

[Greg173]

Hi All,

Charlie123 mentioned a Bordello that he went to that catered for MILFs. Is there anywhere that does cater for or have mature women (I am talking 50 plus).. My perception is that most girls (for example in Artemis) are between 18 and 30. Am I right in saying this?

Also are there any clubs that cater for fetishes for fat women?

Regards

Greg

[Charlie 123]

Charlie,

Please to the point, are the Busen real or fake?

Bear.skFake

Charlie

[Angus Magee]

Hi All,

Charlie123 mentioned a Bordello that he went to that catered for MILFs. Is there anywhere that does cater for or have mature women (I am talking 50 plus).. My perception is that most girls (for example in Artemis) are between 18 and 30. Am I right in saying this?

Also are there any clubs that cater for fetishes for fat women?

Regards

Greg


Hi,

You are right. I would say most are early 20s to around 40.

I am not sure if you will find bordello that caters exclusively to these fetishes or types but you can certainly find these types. With little to no problem. Have a look on the bordello section of Rotlichtadressen (link under) and see what you come up with. I will have a quick look later and see if I can point you somewhere. There is one I know of who is both older (50+) and fat. Molly something. I think she is a Berlin institution and has been around since before the wall went up. If I can unearth the website I will post. If you session wit this one and post a report you will instantly become eligible for the Angus Mongers I Admire title one month ;)

http://www.rotlichtadresse.de/index.php?template=1

AM

[Charlie 123]

I find Monrouge to be a truly first-class facility and I’ve had the pleasure of attending their premises a couple of dozen time over the last 2 years or so. This forum engenders a lot of enquiries about Monrouge, so I thought that it might be a useful resource to assemble under one posting all the individual reports that I have written in that time:

For the uninitiated, Monrouge is located in Charlottenburg, on the first floor at Leibnitzstrasse 57. Accurate pictures of the girls are posted on their website http://www.monrouge.de/ but information as to prices and ‘extras’ is minimal. The ‘phone service is usually helpful and reliable. They are open late – about 3am or so. The Hausmutti is pleasant and will ask you if you have a particular girl in mind. They have a bar where you can meet the girls over a drink, or she will bring all the available talent to the room for you to choose from, as you prefer. The rooms are generally clean and adequately furnished, and showers, towels and bathrobes are provided. All in all, they make an effort to create a friendly and relaxed atmosphere.

http://www.monrouge.de/jasmin.html

She is a dark-skinned girl from the Dominican Republic with a full figure (not fat0 and a terrific pair of large natural breasts, an asset that in my book will forgive a multitude of sins. I chose her.

She was friendly from the start and I realised quickly that this was going to be a good outing. The charge was 70 Euro for a half-hour or 130 for 60 mins. The extras were expensive - 20 for FO or 50 for FT. I don't like to haggle on these occasions - a 10% discount in price usually leads to a greater reduction in service in my experience, so I handed over my 120E with a smile.

I took a quick shower, which I reckon to be a vote-winner with most girls, and settled back with Jasmin in the room. She gave me a real nice BBJ, intermingled with occasional passionate kisses. I don't usually like to kiss these girls, especially the ones who do BBJ's, but she was too persuasive to turn down. After about 15 minutes she started to get tired, so I wanked off whilst she cuddled up and rubbed her pussy against me. When she saw I was ready to come she jumped back down on my knob and finished off the job in her mouth.

I reckon that this girl would be up for most services if she liked the guy - she certainly gave me the impression that most things were on the menu. I was very happy with my visit - this is a personable girl with a right good attitude that I would happily see again. I found her to be very attractive, ‘cos I really like the fuller figure (I stress, not a fatty), but those who prefer slim model girls might not be as taken by her body as I was.

http://www.monrouge.de/jasmin.html
http://www.monrouge.de/nicky.html

This was a really fun little session. Jasmin and I get on well anyway; Nicky was an enthusiastic and sexy addition to the party. The girls took turns to administer nice sloppy deep throat BBBJ’s whilst I tucked into their gorgeous bodies. Nicky was a pleasant surprise, very sexy in a slutty sort of way – a little bit mechanical and polished for those who like the ‘GFE’ illusion, but perfect for the scenario I had in mind.

Cost was 240E (70E + 50E for FT, apiece) – expensive but worth it as a highly undeserved treat to myself. I would do this again sometime, but extend for an hour. I will see Nicky again solo at some time in the future, that is for sure

http://www.monrouge.de/nelly.html

Nelly is another attractive girl who, to my mind, looks better in the flesh than on the website. She also has a cracking pair of tits and a fit body. She radiates a somewhat more ‘homely’ persona than the previous two, but offers a really nice sloppy bbbj and CIM. I have seen her a couple of times and been fully satisfied on both occasions. I fucked her on one of my visits, which was nice enough, but she is a touch mechanical for my tastes and I would stick to oral in future. Mid-range by MR standards to my mind, and a good representation of the high-quality standards offered at this establishment. She and I get on OK, but with no particular spark. If you were to hit it off with her, I suspect that she would be an enthusiastic performer.

http://www.monrouge.de/mary.html

My experience with Mary was so similar to that with the aforementioned Nelly that I would only be repeating myself if I tendered a fuller report, so, ‘see above’ is all I have to say about this girl.

http://www.monrouge.de/katharina.html

Probably the only letdown that I have ever experienced at Monrouge was with Katharina. She appears really friendly looking in her photos, always smiling. Perhaps I caught her on an off day, but I found her to be a mechanical and disinterested pro, despite her tender years. She does have a huge pair of soft natural tits, which for me usually serves to excuse a multitude of shortcomings in other areas, but, at about 18 or 20 years of age she has already acquired a bit of a belly and a slightly sour demeanour to accompany her admittedly respectable blowjob skills, and she is a dull and unresponsive fuck. Perhaps she would prove a better companion for somebody else – this game is all about chemistry after all, but I won’t be seeing her again. (n.b. Now working at Van Kampen under the name of Carmen)

http://www.monrouge.de/adriana.html

The Madame told me that a number of the girls from the website that interested me were no longer working at Monrouge or were on holiday. She presented me with 4 girls, of whom only Adriana is depicted on their site. I had heard good reports on her in a variety of places, so I went with her. She is prettier than her photos suggest, with flawless white skin and a cute round face. Her service is really good, and whilst there was no special chemistry going on, I found it a really enjoyable and relaxing session. I shall long recall her lying on her back whilst I climaxed inside her, staring straight at me and moaning lightly with her doe-eyes wide open...(purely for show of course, but very tastefully done)

http://www.monrouge.de/maya_neu.html

I had always lusted after the photos I'd seen of Maya, but for one reason or another I had never had the pleasure of her acquaintance until this week. She travels a lot and is relatively rarely in Berlin, so I was delighted to discover that she would be in residence during my trip to Berlin this week.

All I can say is, 'JEEZUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!!!!'

Firstly, her body is just to die for. She is tall with huge soft tits, silky-smooth skin, a slim figure, pretty face (generic EE blond) and fabulous legs. 'Sex on legs' is I believe the expression. For someone (like me) who adores the busty MILF physique, she is the identikit stunner.

She is also a super lass; intelligent, funny with a very personable character. Best of all, she is an amazing performer in the sack.

Kissing, sucking, caressing and fucking - an hour of total pleasure that ranks amongst the greatest sexual experiences of my life.

She was so great I had to go back the next day for a repeat showing, which was every bit as good as the first (better actually, 'cos any doubts I'd had first time were totally absent and I was just able to enjoy the occasion)

I know that many of the guys on here have already had the pleasure with Maya before, and to those who had previously encouraged me to try her out, I offer my heartfelt gratitude. For those who haven't yet been with Maya, and especially those who like big-titted blondes, I can only repeat the advice I myself was given, and implore you to take advantage of one of the greatest sex experiences that the city has to offer.

I just wish that I could have taken her home with me - what a girl!

Sandra – not on website

Popped in on Tuesday. Choice of 6 girls. Shortlisted down to two, Sibil (on website) and Sandra (not). I chose Sandra. Poor choice. She is a tall brunette with a slim figure and large tits. Pretty face, pleasant girl, striking figure. Problem was, she offers a minimalist service. No facial, no anal (not my cuppa tea anyway), no FT, and above all COVERED BJ! This is really not the Monrouge way. I have been with lots of their girls and they usually offer a comprehensive service. She gave me the opportunity to back down once she'd explained the limitations but I didn't fancy calling in another girl who'd know that she'd been second choice. So I went ahead with it. 'Halbe stunde' with CoB finish cost me 100 thoroughly wasted euros. She is an ex-Bel Ami girl and is no doubt used to easy money. Thoroughly pleasant girl with a cracking body, no doubt about that, and an ideal girlfriend I'm sure, but as an SP she's just not worth the time or money. Avoid.

http://www.monrouge.de/sibil.html

Sybil is probably the 9th or 10th girl that I've sampled from this excellent bordello, and one of the best. Especially gratifying to finds standards being maintained after last week's disappointing encounter (reported previously on this forum)

Chose from a line-up of 4. Super physique, slim, huge tits (enhanced), soft skin, angular facial features. Says she's 27 - looks older (but I have no reason to disbelieve her). Classic MILF appearance. Nice girl too. Speaks no English.

Offers most services, but won't do CiM although GB was included in the price (unusually). Half-hour was 70E + 30E for BJ ohne + 10 kissing = 110E.

Her BJ was really terrific, slow and sexy with just the right level of hand pressure and lots of ball-licking and lovely eye-contact. The fact that facially she is a dead ringer for my best friend's somewhat prissy wife did not in any way detract from the experience!! A really nice performance for about 20 minutes, with a happy ending right in her face.

A definite repeat for me, and highly recommended for MILF lovers

For what it’s worth, my favourite girl in the Monrouge stable is Maya. She embodies everything that MR does well – superb body, fabulous tits, friendly attitude, a great fuck.

Charlie

[Charlie 123]

Hi All,

Charlie123 mentioned a Bordello that he went to that catered for MILFs. Is there anywhere that does cater for or have mature women (I am talking 50 plus).. My perception is that most girls (for example in Artemis) are between 18 and 30. Am I right in saying this?

Also are there any clubs that cater for fetishes for fat women?

Regards

GregRose 16 has a 'girl' called Cherien who is 50+ years old. She only works Saturdays. I quite fancy the idea of a spin with her myself but I'm never in town over the weekends. There is also Jenny, described by me in my report as the 'dumpy thing'. She's probably 50 y.o. and would also qualify vis-a-vis fatness.

As Angus said, plz post a report if and when you find what you're looking for. But no pictures plz!

Good luck,

Charlie

[Romannico]

I will be travelling to Berlin in a couple of days, and thanks to the great posts & comments on this forum, I have a pretty good idea of the way I could make my stay enjoyable!

However, I haven't been able to find lots of information about Erotic Massages, a personal favorite. Could anyone recommend some good places to have a body to body massage?

I will make sure to post some feedback on this forum when I get back, of course!

Thanks a lot if someone can help!

[Greg173]

Hi All,

Charlie123 mentioned a Bordello that he went to that catered for MILFs. Is there anywhere that does cater for or have mature women (I am talking 50 plus).. My perception is that most girls (for example in Artemis) are between 18 and 30. Am I right in saying this?

Also are there any clubs that cater for fetishes for fat women?

Regards

GregRose 16 has a 'girl' called Cherien who is 50+ years old. She only works Saturdays. I quite fancy the idea of a spin with her myself but I'm never in town over the weekends. There is also Jenny, described by me in my report as the 'dumpy thing'. She's probably 50 y.o. and would also qualify vis-a-vis fatness.

As Angus said, plz post a report if and when you find what you're looking for. But no pictures plz!

Good luck,

Charlie

Thanks for the info. I am going to Berlin in November over a long weekend. I am dead keen to try something more mature and a chubby big girl. I will certainly check out your recommendations and write a report.

I am trying to get my itinerary sorted so as not to waste time uming and arhing about where to go but can't wait to be let loose.

Thanks again for all the great reports they're so helpful.

Greg

[Traderx]

Is there info about Swingeroase looks like a fun place to hang out and burn off some jet lag.

Do they have a gym or just sauna?

[Angus Magee]

Also are there any clubs that cater for fetishes for fat women?

You might want to go with Charlie's suggestion. But here are mine after a wee bit of digging.

This site has a lot of indys and some not so indy trying to be. It also has Hobbyhuren, that is ladies who are in it as a hobby. Really. Some are well advanced in years, 50+. I can not vouch for any of them. Perhaps you will also have to speak at least rudimentary German to take advantage of this..urrrr...goldmine of pensioner pussy.

http://www.omello.de/

I can say that this one gets reasonable press and she is both large abd 50+

http://www.omello.de/modelle/naturgeil-mit-grossen-naturbruesten.php

Molly Luft (not the same Molli) is as I understand, a Berlin institution and real old girl prossy.

http://www.mollyluft.de/seiten/index.htm

As horrifying as she looks (to me) I also do have to admit that she looks fun. If she is still around in 20 or so years, maybe I go see her. Then again, pensioner day at Artemis is also an option. Remember, you can not un-see something once clicked.

AM

[Dustyrip]

Hi Guys,

The Berlin Marathon is on the 26th of September. I am running in it along with 40, 000 others. I am just wondering if Artemis etc. Will be very busy on this weekend?!

I have lurked on this forum for a while and have read angus magee's blog which is excellent. He gives great advice to all us newbies to the German scene.

I am going to Berlin on my own and more than likely will check out Artemis. Is there any places that do CIM/Facials. I think I watch too much porn so I would like to know that this is an option! Does Artemis do CIM/Facials and if so how much extra is it?!

Also is there many good places to pick up free women like disco's etc? I am only 24 and fairly decent looking I just happen to be going to Berlin on my own for this race. I more than likely won't go out as I wouldn't feel comfortable on my own in a disco and I can't drink with the race, however I would like to know that there is a few options away from the p4p scene.

Also if anyone could let me know of places that only do Covered blowjob's let me know as I want to avoid them.

Thanks a lot and happy hunting!

[Angus Magee]

The Berlin Marathon is on the 26th of September. I am running in it along with 40, 000 others. I am just wondering if Artemis etc. Will be very busy on this weekend?!

All I can say is-aren't you guys supposed to forego sex when running marathons? Oh-maybe that is prize fighters.

End of September things at Artemis heat up. But I can not imagine that the Berlin marathoners really swell the ranks too much. I know that last year for the big track and field event held in Berlin in August lots and lots of girl showed but few punters. Track and field seems more a family event.

There may well be a Messe on at this time at the convention hall. If you google "Messe Berlin" you can find this out.



I am going to Berlin on my own and more than likely will check out Artemis. Is there any places that do CIM/Facials. I think I watch too much porn so I would like to know that this is an option! Does Artemis do CIM/Facials and if so how much extra is it?!

I answered this in the Artemis thread. Have a look.


Also is there many good places to pick up free women like disco's etc? I am only 24 and fairly decent looking I just happen to be going to Berlin on my own for this race. I more than likely won't go out as I wouldn't feel comfortable on my own in a disco and I can't drink with the race, however I would like to know that there is a few options away from the p4p scene.

I am sure there are. Especially for ripped 24 year old marathon runners. If you find them please let me know.

I am told that meeting ladies at the cafe is easy. So far this is not my experience. But then I am usually huddled over my computer writing on this friggin' forum so this is no big surprise.


Also if anyone could let me know of places that only do Covered blowjob's let me know as I want to avoid them.

Kamilla Dee-but it is worth it for other reasons. Read my recent blog post.

AM

[Dustyrip]

Thanks Angus,

I see that you said that CIM in Artemis is an extra €50. That is very high. I am from Ireland and escorts here cost €100 for 30 minutes and most do CIM. There seems to be a lot of Brazilian escorts here now. If you or any other members are ever in Ireland let me know via this forum and I will let you know the scene as there is a big one in Ireland despite what people think.

As for Facials I think most of us have a distorted view as a result of porn regarding this..

I more than Likely will stay away from Artemis as I will be on my own and I wouldn't feel too comfortable there.

I might check out Kamilla Dee, this might be better for the weekend that I am in Berlin..

Not having sex before sport is more to do with fighting like boxing etc..as you are more mellow after sex so they say!

There is so many options in Berlin however I take it you know what you are talking about Angus in your blog so I will go with that.

As for free girls I might go out on the Friday as the race is Sunday however I can't drink so won't have any dutch courage..the Irish charm might work though!!

[Angus Magee]

Briefing for a decent into Hell. Part two of the ever expanding Berlin Scene bordello report has just been published. Please excuse any typos and I will endeavor to correct them over the coming days. There is a lot to write and I am trying to get the final stats for August up just a wee bit more.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=348

AM

[Novio]

Thanks to the detailed reviews from Angus, Charlie, and others, I decided to give King George a try when I was in Berlin recently. Their reviews are pretty much spot on. Small club, free drinks with the 100 euro entry, girls are almost all Romanian. The girls will approach you right away and ask you to go to the room, including a couple who wanted to double with them. Like all good veterans, I usually try to deflect these early pitches until I get a sense of the atmosphere. That may not have been the best strategy because, after I turned them down, some of the girls seemed to take it personally and later wouldn't go with me when I asked them.

As I said, most of the girls were Romanian, and some of them had worked in clubs in Spain, so my Spanish came in handy. Some of them seemed to take the dancing seriously, but others didn't really make the effort. There were only a couple who I really thought were do-able, but, given the circumstances, I wanted to make sure I got my money's worth. I first went with one of the do-able girls, Gabriella, a cute spinner, and one of the few who showed more skin in her tiny bikini. She is on their web page, and has lost the little tummy she has in those pictures. She had worked in Malaga, she said, and spoke Spanish pretty well. Not a bad starter. CBJ, FS in a couple of positions. The rooms are not bad, with a shower in each room.

I then sat and watched the dancing for a long time, as I didn't see any one I really wanted to go with who wasn't already occupied with another customer. There was a thin blonde who would dance every now and then and had a nice smile (also on their web page), but she seemed to be focusing on one of her regulars all night long. I almost was going to go with the shorter blonde who was a good dancer, but she seemed to be pretty aggressive about asking for tips and other extras. She practically jumped on some Asian guy who came in, and "playfully" took his gold chain off him and put it on herself.

I wound up sitting near Petronella who I had noticed during her energetic dances. We started chatting in English and some Spanish, and then I asked her to go to the rooms. She said yes, and it turned out to be a nice, unhurried session. She has this Cleopatra look going with her haircut and goth eye makeup, which may not be to everyone's liking, but she has a nice body. Like Angus' experience, she also demanded a massage from me but, in my case, before the session. That actually worked out well, since that gave me the chance to slide Little Novio between her soft ass cheeks to warm up. She started with a nice CBJ, and then she suggested I return the favor with DATY, which I was happy to oblige. A couple of positions in FS, and then finished. In both cases, the girls wouldn't allow kissing, and didn't explore other options.

If you're willing to be patient, and aren't too picky, it's worth a go every now and then. There seemed to be regulars there already. There also was a more mature Latina there who never ever got on stage to dance, and never approached me, but seemed to have developed a clientele, because she did go back to the rooms every now and then with customers. Like the others have said, it's hard to understand how the business model will work though.

[Angus Magee]

I see that you said that CIM in Artemis is an extra €50. That is very high.

Artemis is not inexpensive by any means The entry is costly, regular room rates reasonable (IMO) and extras push the price quite high if not careful. I would argue though that going to Art and then being careful is a bit of folly.
Once you pay the high entry you might as well blow the budget to hell. So if you are just here for the weekend and need to be a bit cautious about the cash, Art might not be the best place to go. Also the girls there tend to favor the regulars (who come back month after month and spend) or the big spenders. The girl know who these guys are and seem to have a sort of sixth sense going on about it. Nothing wrong with this I think as the girls are there to make money, not take on charity cases. I am not saying that you will always be treated badly if you have a budget but you will have to work harder to find a girl that you click with if that is the case.



I As for free girls I might go out on the Friday as the race is Sunday however I can't drink so won't have any dutch courage..the Irish charm might work though!!

There are a number of Irish pubs in Berlin that I understand are quite popular with the young set and travelers. Maybe you want to get away from that environment (coming from Ireland and going to German Irish pub?) but they are an option. I know nothing about discos except that they are reputedly hard places to meet the girls.Easy to meet girls who want drinks bought for them, hard to take it further. Remember this comes from a 50 year old guy who has never felt much at home in the disco.

Personally, despite my lack of success(or trying) I always feel it is easier to meet girls in the cafes or even just the streets. If the weather is fine head on up to Prenzlauerberg or Mitte and you find areas with many outdoor cafes & casual bars. All in all a much easier place to turn on the Irish charm and not just be fleeced for drinks.

For p4p you might also check out La Folie (google La Folie Berlin) a small bar/FKK in Charlottenberg. It is not ideal and you will probably have to fend off a Bulgarian or two asking for piccolo, but an evening there with two sessions (1/2 hr.) will run you about €170. (75/session + 14 entry+maybe one more drink, one drink comes with the entry). This place has fallen a bit since Artemis opened but is still an option for entry level FKK adventures. Do a search in this thread and you should find a report or two from some time back. Also keep in mind that La Folie is a small club and you will be getting naked upon entry-no robes or even towels here. If you are a shy guy...
Also it is very smokey if that bothers you, pass. It is small and very, very smokey in fact.

Cheers

AM

PS. Do I need to remind you not to forget the report of your experience, to be posted here after you leave.

[Rocketboy0]

Artemis is not inexpensive by any means The entry is costly, regular room rates reasonable (IMO)

DustyRip,

I think our humble knowledgable Guru paints slightly too grim a picture re Artemis. If I were you, with a short period of time, and I wanted to increase the odds of a good experience to near 100%, I´d go there. The problem with the bordellos is - it is very hit and miss, esp. on the weekend: who´s there, who´s actually available when you are, etc. and you have to decide all in about a minute. At Arts, the Love Bahnhoff, you can chill, take your time, and there is no pressure. Plus with a meal (and as a runner you will love the carbs they serve there in prodigious portions...) sauna, pool, the price is actually quite reasonable IF you just discipline yourself a little. That means taking your time, doing slow recon, talking first to candidates to see if the spark and comfort zone is there, being very clear about what you want (perhaps not asking in the first minute!). Talking for 15-20min will not set off the clock and let´s you both feel the vibes and you will surely know if the girl just wants to push you upstairs vs. relaxed chatting. And as for being alone - man you will be with 100 guys having fun, many of whom speak English. And with who knows 50+ girls on a busy weekend - just won´t be a problem. It´s a friendly place. As for any worry about pressure and sharks - I dunno. I´ve always found this to be just insignificant. It can be mildly annoying esp if one is post detonation, and just watching an educational training film in the kino but I mean really- you just politely say you're making "eine pause". If you just have your wicked way with one girl, it´s not expensive, and even with 2 still a good deal vs. the bordellos with the meal, chill factor, and sauna-pool thrown in. Plus it really is such a scene and Berlin thing, I´d go for it, especially if time constraints are a factor. (I only get 10% kickback from the management-just kidding).

On the streets - the bars and cafes in Kreuzberg are also an option...Berlin girls pretty open IMHO. But always an odds thing and if you want to at least one night go back with a smile on your face - Arts is the place.

[Angus Magee]

I think our humble knowledgable Guru paints slightly too grim a picture re Artemis.

I defer to the Rocketboy, ever the optimist, seeing the glass half full etc. But I do agree that Art is a hell of a place and a lot of fun there is to be had. But eyes open and wallet greased is the way to go IMO. Once your dick is in her mouth being polished and she looks up at you with doe eyes and asks if you want to shoot the boys on her tonsils, it takes a will of steel to say..um...no thanks. But it can be done.

That being said I often will get out easily, with fun times all around for €200. Take heed of Guruji RB's advice and you'll be right mate.

[Angus Magee]

Is there info about Swingeroase looks like a fun place to hang out and burn off some jet lag.

Do they have a gym or just sauna?


Hi Trader,

When asking for help such as is this post it really helps to supply a link if you have one, or a better description of where/what the place is. I assume as you will be suffering jet lag that you come from out of town. You must have heard of the place somewhere, I assume the internet.

Other wise I have to do the work myself, google, and try to figure out where it is. While I am the driver of the welcome wagon, I am not stupid about it.

Supply a link and I will try to offer some thoughts or point you towards any info I can find easily.

Regards

AM

[Nille Copenhagen]

Also the girls there tend to favor the regulars (who come back month after month and spend) or the big spenders. The girl know who these guys are and seem to have a sort of sixth sense going on about it.
Hi AM,

How do the girls know if you are a big spender?

And how much should you spend to be a big spender?

I normally spend around 500-600€ (including entry fee) on 5-6 girls at a 14h stay at the FKKs and I don't consider myself as a big spender.

Example at Artemis

80€ entre

40€ massage

160€ ½h+anal, 1 girl

5x60€ ½h, 5 girls

CIM sometimes.

Some girls do notice I'm going with their friends as they do talk. But I don't think they favor me more for that reason. I think you'll get good service by being nice and choose your girls well, it works for me.

We don't want to tip the girls too much (maybe this could indicate if you a big spender or not, but tipping the girls is bad for other mongers), if the girl is good I promise her a repeat next time instead of tipping.

Nille

[Kristoffer]

I had decided for short overnight trip to Berlin and some anal fun.

I took the train from the airport and after a change I walked to Liberty and rang the door.

Liberty

I had checked the webpage and found two candidates that were supposed to work that day and also do anal. They were Melissa and Michelle. I took the line-up anyway to see if there was something other that caught my eye, there were not and Melissa was not present either, so I picked Michelle.

Michelle 21 years old Polish girl, used to work at Salon Prestige.

I agreed upon a session 40 minutes of anal 80€ + 40€, I was asked if I wanted anything ells, I declined. We started with some nice cuddling that led to some kissing. She then went down and gave me a nice blowjob. We the got down to business, she started on top then we switched, after awhile I came, but I was horny so of with the condom and on with a new. Put on a little lube same more kissing and she guided it in, it felt really good, and she has a nice ass. You can feel she's into it, pushing hard back while pumped in doggy. Time was running out but I could not finish even if I really wanted to. I must say a really good session, because of the kissing I tipped 10€.

http://www.Libertyberlin.de/michelle.htm

I went to lunch then checked in at the hotel, I started to feel like a Thai massage. I walked around trying to find one, took a long time but finally I saw a sign.

Wang spa

Wang spa 45 minutes for 50€ seemed like a lot but took it.

Was a so-so massage, she tried to sell me extra for 50€ but not really specifying what, I declined. I did not get a happy ending either. I would not go back.

Tiffany

Next day had made a reservation in advance for Beatrice at Tiffany's.

I've had session with her before but that was a few years ago. That was my first anal session at a brothel, for me that was really a good first experience.

I had booked 50 minutes with anal 100€ + 25€. Beatrice is a very slim girl with some nice tattoos; the only little downside from my side is she has very small breasts. We started out with some cuddling on the couch, no kissing on the mouth but a lot neck and so on. We moved on to the bed were she gave me a nice blowjob, after awhile she climbed on top. She does seem to be on top and in control of the tempo, after her riding for 10 minutes she started to warm her ass up then in it went. It was a good as the last time and she kept riding me. Time flies and I wanted to take her in doggy, I could see her face and body in the mirror as I finished. Ones again a really good session for me.

http://www.Ritter11.de/bordell-girls/beatrice.php

In conclusion both girls do seem to like it in the ass. For me I would repeat with both. Beatrice has a little tighter ass though.

Kristoffer

[Dustyrip]

Thanks Angus and Rocket,

Its looking like I will try out Artemis on Friday and Kamila Dee on Saturday - that is if I don't blow all my money in Artemis!! I will see when I get there in a few weeks.

I think Artemis is a place I really should see as its my first time in Berlin/Germany and FKK's are unique in a way to Germany.

I looked at Angus's videos on how to get to both locations which were great....

In regards to Kamilla Dee if I just show up without booking in advance is it likely that I will just get put with a random girl on the premises. I would have to book via email as I can't speak German.

[Angus Magee]

How do the girls know if you are a big spender?

And how much should you spend to be a big spender?



Hi, N C,

In the end it is all relative. But if you are spending 5-6 hundred per visit I would say that you are a big spender. But it also depends upon the ease with which you spend it. This not so easy to quantify or explain as it is sort of a non logical, energy thing.

Keep in mind that this stuff is all my view on it and not to be taken as some concrete, cast in stone directive as to how things are. It is, as we say on the internet, IMHO.

Some guys spend a lot of cash, some spend a good amount of cash, some very little on a visit. But we also spend ourselves when we go to the club. By this I mean that we show up and simply have a good time, talking to girls, interacting with the staff in a pleasant manner, turning down girls without being an asshole about it, in general being there and adding to the fun for the girls who are there to make money and hopefully have a bit of this fun. The girls, at least many of them, notice all of this even if they do not consciously say, oh there is a guy with cash and he looks fun, they notice.

Women are way better than men at reading the energy of another. We men do tend to look at the surface of a person and take it for who the person is. Women, without really thinking of it as such, look at the person and feel in themselves what that person is about. Are they tight, relaxed, angry, these sorts of things. Men can also do this ( a good business man does it in business ) but especially in situations like the clubs we do tend to just look at the surface of things and go with our minds interpretation of events. That is, a girl who looks like a sex pot, dresses up like a sex pot, we think, oh-she must be hot in bed. In fact she is very often a cold fish in bed and the sex pot is sitting lonely in the corner in a plain dress and thick stockings.

Not all girls are good at this. They could be, but sometimes they let the business side of things take over for them. Who can blame them. They are there to make money. So they see a guy who is throwing around the cash and think that he must be generous and try to meet him. He may well have a lot of cash, she will extract it from him, but neither of them will have all that much fun along the way and in my books, I say at this point, why fucking bother? If there is no fun in something why do it?

So, back to the question of how do they know? They just know. Us mongers are a pretty easy lot to figure out for the girl with a minimum of smarts. We just want a good, relaxing time in the company of a beautiful woman and maybe want to play out some of our fantasies. The ease with which we do this is easy to see. So the big spenders are the guys who have a reasonable amount of cash in their locker and spend it with ease. Perhaps a better, more pertinent question is, how do I tell if I am a big spender, at least in the eyes of the girls.

The answer is that clubs, indeed life in general, has a built in results feedback loop that helps you to know. If you are really honest with yourself and ask yourself the question, did I have fun at the club tonight, and the answer is a definitive ,Yes, then you are a big spender. Be careful, many of us also have a mechanism in place that does not really want to see if we had a lousy time. So ask the question with ease, if the answer is-not really-do a short honest appraisal of why not and move on. There is no turning back and having a redo of the evening, unless you count the possibility of going again the next night. But this is not really a do over as you will have to haul out the wallet again and make new choices. If you learn from the previous evening you have more fun. If you just repeat the themes of the lousy evening, your results remain pretty even save for the chance encounter that Mother Chaos sends your way as a teaser.

I think I stop here. There is probably much more to say on the subject but it may well be more appropriate for my blog. This is, as I see it, the theoretical side of mongering/life. It is fun for a metaphysician like me to play with these ideas endlessly. I hope that some readers find it interesting. In the end though I say just go out there, experiment and play. Look at your results but not too, too long or hard. As a good friend of mine always says, a man who has really worked with this stuff, lives it and acts as an example for me-Easy is right. I add, Easy is easy.

Regards

AM

[Angus Magee]

In regards to Kamilla Dee if I just show up without booking in advance is it likely that I will just get put with a random girl on the premises. I would have to book via email as I can't speak German.

KD is actually pretty good with the English. That is often the Hausmutti speaks it reasonably well and if not they call in one of the girls to interpret. And they are not at all uneasy with this. They recognize the out of town English speaker as a valued customer and treat him so. This is why, well one of the reasons, I think it is such an excellent bordello.

AM

[Nille Copenhagen]

Hi Am,

Man. I wish I had the time to write as much as you This discussion is quite interesting, we could take it offline some day.


Not all girls are good at this. They could be, but sometimes they let the business side of things take over for them. Who can blame them. They are there to make money. So they see a guy who is throwing around the cash and think that he must be generous and try to meet him. He may well have a lot of cash, she will extract it from him, but neither of them will have all that much fun along the way and in my books, I say at this point, why fucking bother? If there is no fun in something why do it?I agree. You should have fun spending your money and the girls should have fun too (for many of them more money is more fun). For sure the girls will try to take advantage of guys with lots of money (who wouldn't) and it's not sure that the girls provide better service for that reason.

Once I've spend almost 2000€ over 2 days at OASE, I went crazy fucked all the girls I could, had Ménage à trois several time, anal, CIM, prostate massage, dildofucked the girls (I've brought some new toys with me, everything was planned). On the first day a girl did tried to take advantage of me with lots of up sales, I agreed on some of the up sales, but damn sex with her was lousy, nice BJ though. I was more careful after this session and selected the girls with care.

The result of my spending, I had a lot of fun and I got many of my desires fulfilled.

The second day was perfect everything when smooth and the service from my favorite girls were over the top.

In the evening of the second day I remembered some girls said: "This guy has money".

So yes I know the girls notice when you are spending more cash than average.

I just want to have your view on it.


So, back to the question of how do they know? They just know. Us mongers are a pretty easy lot to figure out for the girl with a minimum of smarts. We just want a good, relaxing time in the company of a beautiful woman and maybe want to play out some of our fantasies. The ease with which we do this is easy to C. So the big spenders are the guys who have a reasonable amount of cash in their locker and spend it with ease. Perhaps a better, more pertinent question is, how do I tell if I am a big spender, at least in the eyes of the girls.The girls are expert in observing us, as some of us are expert in observing the girls. It is part of the game, it is part of the girls job. Even if you sit in the dinning area admiring a beautiful girl from a far she would notice and play cool as she knows you are interested in her, she finish her food and walk past you in a sexy way (nice marketing strategy), knowing you will follow or find her later. I've seen this scene many times. It also works on me


The answer is that clubs, indeed life in general, has a built in results feedback loop that helps you to know. If you are really honest with yourself and ask yourself the question, did I have fun at the club tonight, and the answer is a definitive, Yes, then you are a big spender. Be careful, many of us also have a mechanism in place that does not really want to see if we had a lousy time. So ask the question with ease, if the answer is-not really-do a short honest appraisal of why not and move on. There is no turning back and having a redo of the evening, unless you count the possibility of going again the next night. But this is not really a do over as you will have to haul out the wallet again and make new choices. If you learn from the previous evening you have more fun. If you just repeat the themes of the lousy evening, your results remain pretty even save for the chance encounter that Mother Chaos sends your way as a teaser.I think having fun and spending money should be balanced, spending more is not equal with more fun,

It could indicate that you have made too many mistakes and want to compensate by spending on more sessions.

Like when you loose in the casino and you want to bet more to win back your money. (I've been there)

You can still have much fun with the girls without being a big spender, if you are a regular and have like 2x30 min. Session per stay, then I wouldn't consider you as a big spender. But you'll have much fun anyway, because most girls will know you and they have to work harder to convince you to session with them.

I often like to go to the same club 2 days in the row. On the second day I know the girls better and I know the atmosphere.

I can relax more and have more fun with girls. Avoiding the mistake I might have made. If I made 1 mistake out of 10 girls. I can live with that.

Ask yourself this: If you had a lousy time, why are you coming back for more.

Nille

[Rocketboy0]

Thanks Angus and Rocket,
In regards to Kamilla Dee if I just show up without booking in advance is it likely that I will just get put with a random girl on the premises. I would have to book via email as I can't speak German.

DustyRip

You won´t get "put with a random girl" but just be able choose from whomever is there and available at that moment which might be from 3-10 depending on the obvious.... My guess is Sat night will be slower (less talent) than Sat afternoon so bear that it mind. You could have a look and if nothing suits you (and at least you have the previous night´s Art´s experience as a benchmark) you can also try Van Kampen (close by) which can have some stunners. Look on both websites as you get closer to your date and see what´s what, but definitely call ahead maybe an hour or so, so you have some idea of schedule and reality (which can be different). You can ask in English if there are girls with what ever look and perversion you want etc. at what time, when are they free etc. But I would not make an appointment or email - things often change at the last minute-just try to get a sense of when are good times and turn up. You always have Artemis again as a back up...so don´t rush into anything.

All this soFistIkATed nolej has cost us a lot of time and energy and bucks....and here we just give it away so you youngin´s can carry the torch. And we are expecting reports dear boy...and not about architectural critiques of the rooms or the fascinating logistics of how you got there - but the real deal.

[Angus Magee]

Hi Am,

Man. I wish I had the time to write as much as you This discussion is quite interesting, we could take it offline some day.



Tried sending this pm but you can not receive them. So I post here.

Hi NC,

If you are coming to Berlin and want to meet for a chat over a coffe or beer just drop me a line and we can arrange a meet. I have met a number of ISG members like this and always enjoy it. At the moment I am available most evenings during the week, not so much on weekends.

Also I am at the moment loosely planning a trip to Artemis I think on the 15 Sept. A Wednesday (dessous day but what the hell) Toscan will be here and maybe a couple of others (Charlie? RB?)

Just so you know and if you are anywhere close by please do try to make it. Nice too have a few wingmen on hand and nice to meet other members in the wilds of Art.

Plus, I do have rather a strange connection to your name sake, Copenhagen. I will tell you when we meet.

Regards

AM

[Paddington]

KD is actually pretty good with the English. That is often the Hausmutti speaks it reasonably well and if not they call in one of the girls to interpret. And they are not at all uneasy with this. They recognize the out of town English speaker as a valued customer and treat him so. This is why, well one of the reasons, I think it is such an excellent bordello.

AMI concur, having very poor German skills have never been a problem at KD. Sure, I once got the time for an appointment wrong, but that was mostly my fault for trying to speak German, when I should have given up and insisted on English. It all worked out in the end, and I had a wonderful session.

Just give them a call, and if none are there to help you, just tell them that you'll call back in a couple of hours. After all, getting you an appointment is their business, and they are quite accomodating.

(sign me up for commision)

[Nille Copenhagen]

Hi AM.


If you are coming to Berlin and want to meet for a chat over a coffe or beer just drop me a line and we can arrange a meet. I have met a number of ISG members like this and always enjoy it. At the moment I am available most evenings during the week, not so much on weekends.Hehe you are occupied at Artemis in the weekends ehehe.

Thanks for the invitation, I'll let you know in advance when I'm going to Berlin.

I want to try out Insomnia club www.Insomnia-berlin.de next time,

If you are into that kind of club we could explorer the club together.


Also I am at the moment loosely planning a trip to Artemis I think on the 15 Sept. A Wednesday (dessous day but what the hell) Toscan will be here and maybe a couple of others (Charlie? RB?)You live relatively close to Artemis do you really need to plan a trip

Actually I want to visit the IFA messe (and Artemis) this upcoming weekend, but I don't know if I can make it. If I don't make this weekend, I'm planning to visit Artemis on the 29th Sep. Artemis 5 yrs birthdayparty.

Are you attending?


Plus, I do have rather a strange connection to your name sake, Copenhagen. I will tell you when we meet.Please give me a hint, I'm dying to know.

[Bobo.fr]

DustyRip
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..... choose from whomever is there and available at that moment .......

Exact !!



....
My guess is Sat night will be slower (less talent) than Sat afternoon so bear that it mind.
...

On saturday, the house closes at 21:00 (9:00 PM) : earlier than other days (see http://www.kamilla-dee.com/presence-1.htm )



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But I would not make an appointment or email - things often change at the last minute-just try to get a sense of when are good times and turn up. ....
There are 2 kinds of appointments

1) "Sample" appointments with "scheduled" ladies (only by phone calls, not email) :
http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/appointment.htm

2) "Arrangements" (in the past, called "escort") with ladies who are not "scheduled" ( email or phone calls but not the same number) :
http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/escort_4e.htm

[Dustyrip]

Thanks a lot guys,

The plan at the moment is to go to Artemis on the Friday as I know I would be annoyed with myself if I didn't go there on my visit. I have a feeling Atemis may be like Darlings in Prague so €400 is as much as I can take really. Thats entrance and 5 sessions or 3 if I do CIM etc..I know the ways these gils can influence you into paying more so I need to be careful..

I will go to Kamila Dee or Van Kempen(or both) on Saturday during the day as I need to try to get to bed early with the Marathon on Sunday Morning. I am not sure whether I will have any money left to do anything on the Sunday its unlikely so I might just rest in the hotel until I fly home on Monday morning.

The thing with Kamilla Dee is they only do cbj. I am not a fan of this at all so this is the main reason why I wouldn't go here. If I do go I will just show up at the premises without ringing or emailing in advance. The women seem decent on the website and I am sure there will be one there who I would fuck!!

I read Angus's blog again and a lot of the Lower end places seem to do FrenchTotal so I might try these out athe than Kamilla Dee/Van Kempen.

So many decisions.

I realy should think more about this race!!

[Traderx]

Hi Trader,

When asking for help such as is this post it really helps to supply a link if you have one, or a better description of where/what the place is. I assume as you will be suffering jet lag that you come from out of town. You must have heard of the place somewhere, I assume the internet.

Other wise I have to do the work myself, google, and try to figure out where it is. While I am the driver of the welcome wagon, I am not stupid about it.

Supply a link and I will try to offer some thoughts or point you towards any info I can find easily.

Regards

AMYep. Should have elaborated. Basically I been doing research using your blog the ISG forums here and Berlinintim. It seems that this place advertises an erotic event every day and is open 24/7 with a wellness area and even some kind of buffet. But surprised I've not seen it ever mentioned in the forums.

SwingerOase:

http://www.Berlinintim.de/member/Event/Gangbang-Berlin-13886.html

http://www.Swingeroase-zwiespalt.de/

Also related seems to be Insomnia but there is plenty of info about what to expect there.

I kind of want someplace relaxing, maybe even opportunity for some dancing and sessioning but be able to see some german culture maybe even meet some locals. So for me a 75E-100E place like these two sounds good enough. Worst case I get a couple beers and some bad food and watch some locals fuck.

But my preference would be to goto a PartyTreff but I can't tell which clubs are those. Are places like King George PartyTreffs?

Thanks!

[Angus Magee]

In regards to Kamilla Dee if I just show up without booking in advance is it likely that I will just get put with a random girl on the premises. I would have to book via email as I can't speak German.

I do forget that some folks do not know the scene. Just because you go into a bordello does not mean you have to stay if there is no girl there who tickles your bone. Watch the parade and if there is no one, say no thanks and you can leave. I have done this many times and only once caught a hint of attitude about it (VK if I remember correctly). Then go to the next nearest. In the case of KD that would be Royal or VK. You can shop around in Berlin but do not be rude about it. Just watch the parade and decide yes or no.


All this soFistIkATed nolej has cost us a lot of time and energy and bucks....and here we just give it away so you youngin´s can carry the torch. And we are expecting reports dear boy...and not about architectural critiques of the rooms or the fascinating logistics of how you got there - but the real dea

My sentiments exactly. I sure do not mind sharing what i know but I do so hoping you give back to the forum. It does not have to be a long piece but who you saw, how she was, maybe a few details (but be reasonably discreet if you want) and maybe would you repeat with the girl all things being equal.

Thanks for bringing it up RB

AM

[Angus Magee]

Yep. Should have elaborated. Basically I been doing research using your blog the ISG forums here and Berlinintim. It seems that this place advertises an erotic event every day and is open 24/7 with a wellness area and even some kind of buffet. But surprised I've not seen it ever mentioned in the forums.

SwingerOase:

Yeah I am not so into the swinger scene so I have little experience and rarely mention it. Maybe I should give it a...er...swing...just out of professional interest. This place is, as I know more, a swingers club where single men are welcome for a higher price. They may or may not have a couple of semi pros on hand to service the single men. Actually my good friend & forum member Iseeu has been there a couple of times I think and said it to be okay. Maybe drop him a pm asking about it or post in the General Partytreff/swingers section of the board specifically asking Iseeu for info. But I can tell you that generally in swingers clubs, unless they have some pro ladies for the singles, you have to be prepared to come away "ungepoppt" as there is no guarantee. But you do seem to know this so it probably is not a concern to you.

As I think on it Iseeu more than likely did write a report on the place you mention but it mat be hidden within a general Berlin report of his so it may be very hard to find. Look at his reports in the Berlin thread from about three years back (maybe 4 but I think 3) this time of year, Sept, Oct Nov.. You might just find it.

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But my preference would be to goto a PartyTreff but I can't tell which clubs are those. Are places like King George PartyTreffs?

Not sure that there is really a partyfreff in Berlin. Just the clubs you mention and maybe a few more swingers clubs.

The King George, Caligula and Pussy Club in Schönefeld are not Partytreffs. They are flat rate clubs and their is a big difference. If you have not done so read my KG report. It gives a pretty good picture I think of this sort of club. Unless you can make your own fun, you are likely not to have fun. The sex part is pretty soul destroying unless you just want a very minimum fuck, or several or really work the girls as Charlie did. Then it can be okay. But it is not a Partyfreff.

The other swingers clubs, and I think there are a number, you will have to find someone who knows much more than me. All I could tell you, you could as easily find yourself on the internet.

Please do remember to write a report. Keeping this thread so alive takes time & effort on my and others parts. We do so in the hopes that others will give back as a way of repaying the info they take.

You could well become the Berlin swinger scene expert with a little effort ;)

Cheers

AM

[Angus Magee]

Thanks a lot guys,

The plan at the moment is to go to Artemis on the Friday as I know I would be annoyed with myself if I didn't go there on my visit. I have a feeling Atemis may be like Darlings in Prague so €400 is as much as I can take really. Thats entrance and 5 sessions or 3 if I do CIM etc..I know the ways these gils can influence you into paying more so I need to be careful..

€400 is a pretty good bankroll for an evening at Artemis unless you lose your head. My first time there I spent €310 and walked away pretty happy. Perhaps look in the FKK RofD thread for Angus Loses his FKK Cherry, my first visit to Artemis. Late October 2008 I believe is the date. Just don't put too much pressure on yourself to "succeed" and you'll be right. And do remember to pack that Irish charm you mention. It goes a long way in an FKK environment does charm of any sort. Mostly be as real as you can be with the ladies. Oh..and don't put to much faith in other mongers experiences as you read here. The most important ingredient in a good FKK session is the chemistry you have with the girl. Do you like her, does she seem to like you at least a wee bit.





I will go to Kamila Dee or Van Kempen(or both) on Saturday during the day as I need to try to get to bed early with the Marathon on Sunday Morning. I am not sure whether I will have any money left to do anything on the Sunday its unlikely so I might just rest in the hotel until I fly home on Monday morning.

The thing with Kamilla Dee is they only do cbj. I am not a fan of this at all so this is the main reason why I wouldn't go here. If I do go I will just show up at the premises without ringing or emailing in advance. The women seem decent on the website and I am sure there will be one there who I would fuck!!

I read Angus's blog again and a lot of the Lower end places seem to do FrenchTotal so I might try these out athe than Kamilla Dee/Van Kempen.

So many decisions.

Why not try Liberty? It has a cheaper base price and they do bbbj many of the girls. The hour session will cost you (or could) a bit more but you get your bbbj. A session at VK with extras can easily hit 190. The KD session will be 160, but no bbbj.


I realy should think more about this race!!

I don't know. As Angus sees it you seem to have your priorities straight.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Hi AM.

Hehe you are occupied at Artemis in the weekends ehehe.


It is sort of funny as I suddenly see that people here must think I am always at Artemis or some other sex establishment getting my unit polished. In fact right now I am rarely there. The last visit was mid July. Last year-that was a different story. 2-3 visits a month was for a time my average.

And the money-people must think I roll in the stuff. In fact I was up until recently a working stiff on hourly salary for the man. I paid my rent, food, coffee then spent every other EUR I earned at the bordellos. Then I lost the job and fell (more like was pushed) into an abyss. I spent several months last winter lying in bed, masturbating, watching porn and dreaming up ways to off myself without causing too much bother. I couldn't really think of any that filled the conditions of not leaving a body and/or not being too expensive. Offing yourself without the mess ain't cheap.

Then through a series of sort miracle like events involving some very dear friends (that is no one set out to help me, they let me wallow, but they did offer their continued friendship) I came to a place where I just said to myself that I did not how, but I was going to do what I really in my deepest heart wanted to do. Even if I was not really sure (still am not) what that was other than share myself passionately with the world. Exactly who I am in each moment, no compromise.

The days I decided this, it may have been a moment but a sort of timeless moment, something shifted in me. I was broke, owed money, had not paid rent in 5 months (my room mate is very, very cool), had no job, didn't even want one, but I was gong to do something come hell or high water. I started my first book and the blog.

The book is coming along. It needs some cash. I had to/have to take care of the debts, things, unexpected things, happened, life throws her curve balls, but I now have a sort of career involving many of the things I love to do, including but not exclusively visiting FKK, bordellos, tantra studios and anything else sex industry related.

Why tell you all of this? Partly to affirm it for myself. But also to tell the whole fucking universe that I am available for this. I am not just me. I am not just Angus. I do not really know who I am at the moment and that is perfectly fine by me. I wake looking forward to my regular job, then the day gets better as I fuck around on the computer, write and genrally do what i want. The money is not all there right now, thus the reason for my having to plan trips to Art, but I am certain that I can make it work and the money will arrive when it arrives. Rent is paid each month, debts are shrinking.

The teacher/friend I sometimes mention in passing is a remarkable man. At one of my first meetings with him he said to me-What would you say to Death if he were to show upp at your house one day and say, Angus, it is your time. What would you say? All I could think of is what I wanted to be able to say but could not. That is, Yes, come on Death, lets rock, let's get the fuck out of here see what is next. if anything. But I could not say that then. Probably not now either. But I fully intend to live the rest of my days so that when he does come, I will be able to greet him with open arms, a smilie and a packed bag. I want to finish every moment as if it is the last one I will ever have.

Maybe a strange goal in life but it is the one I have, the one given to me by providence and I like it.

Hope this is not too much for the Berlin thread guys, but hey, if it is then don't read it. Go have fun. Go get your unit polished. I know I will one of these days and will fucking enjoy it.




Please give me a hint, I'm dying to know.

Sorry I really can not in the open forum. I do have my private life to consider as much as I blab about my goals & aspirations here. But when we meet-gladly

AM

[Nille Copenhagen]

Hey AM,

Cool that you dare express part of your private life openly here in the forum.

If I live in Berlin I would probably go to Artemis or other P4P options in Berlin every week, I'm glad I don't live there as I would be broke.

I thought you were back on your feet, because you mention about working during the World Cup.

Your blog is great and what is the book about? Same subject?

If Death smile at you just smile back, what is in your packed bag? You won't need condoms in hell

It's much funnier to live.

My goal in life is to still be able to fuck girls in FKKs even when I'm 80-90 yrs old.

Carpe Diem, AM

Nille

[Bobby Cph]

Did a one day trip to Berlin yesterday to get some things done (get laid, that is...). Since I was on a tight schedule (landed in Berlin SFX around 9 am and was leaving at 6 pm) I headed straight to the S-Bahn and took the train to Ostkreuz. I was heading for Harmonie Massagen (http://www.harmoniemassagen.de) in Rigaerstrasse 3. Took a coffee and crossaint on the way. Rang the bell around 10:15 (they have their own entrance) but there was no answer and a group of people moving out of a flat was looking strange a me. So I left.

The I went for second part of my plan and headed for KD. I had been quite intrigued by Eva's pictures (http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/eva.htm) and I was lucky that she was available. She was also the only girl of the ones presented to me in the line up (of five girls) that kissed. So I booked an hour with her.

She is lookwise more a student that a model (the pictures suggest the latter). Her body is not that well trained and fit but that makes her feel like a genuine next door girl. She is very sweet and unspoiled with a straightforward personality. And the session was very relaxed with two pops - one by suck and one by fuck. She got quite wet when I gave her oral and no lube was needed for the fuck.

One thing though was that I told her I was in Berlin for work, and when I left she wished me a good holiday...so that kind of broke the illusion for me...was she not listening at all when we had our small pillow talk after sex? But all in all a nice session. Would probably repeat.

After the session I didn't really feel like going back to Harmonie Massagen or to Royal (an optional third leg for my trip) so I just killed time walking around Alex since the weather was so nice.

[Royal Chicken]

Hi all,

I have a free night tonight and really want to go to some nice clubs in Berlin, do you guys have any suggestions?

Thanks a lot

[Angus Magee]

If I don't make this weekend, I'm planning to visit Artemis on the 29th Sep. Artemis 5 yrs birthdayparty.

Are you attending?



Am I attending? Only if they comp my entry.I may just run it by them next time I am there (Sept 15 likely) and I have the balls.

Parties, their pros & cons were discussed in length, I think on the Oase thread, maybe World? I actually attended last years and it was okay. I described it recently, probably in the party pro/con discussion I just mentioned.

Briefly, it could have been to do with where I was at back then but I found it to be quite clique-y. That is many of the guests seemed to be guests of the owner and there seemed to be private little parties going on that you needed to be invited to. Many of the hotter girl were fully booked by the friends of the owner and were not really that available for regular guests. The champagne, and the money, were flowing. I was just out of the flow.

Eventually I decided to just have a good time with what was happening and just drank some champagne, ate the very good food (it was quite good that night, watched fireworks at 23:00 and chatted to girls who I did not take to the rooms.Girls I was not that interested in.

I left at around midnight-ungepoppt as they say. My wallet was still full so I cabed it home for once in my life. Nice.

Do not let all this discourage you. As I say, I suspect the flat time had as much to do with me as with the events of the party. Maybe more to do with me. I am quite willing to go this year again. But I am not champing at the bit for it. As with so much right now I take it as it comes. If The Goddess Artemis wishes me in attendance she is going to have to throw me the means to be there. That is all.

AM

[Nille Copenhagen]

Hi all,

I have a free night tonight and really want to go to some nice clubs in Berlin, do you guys have any suggestions?

Thanks a lotArtemis FKK would be my choice.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Briefly, it could have been to do with where I was at back then but I found it to be quite clique-y. That is many of the guests seemed to be guests of the owner and there seemed to be private little parties going on that you needed to be invited to. Many of the hotter girl were fully booked by the friends of the owner and were not really that available for regular guests. Hi AM,

So you are saying that even there were many girls that night, all the good ones were booked for the owner and his guests.

As far as I know there is only 1 big VIP room, so where did the girls go?

Don't they returned to the main lounge where you can grab them? How many girls would estimate were present that night, 90-100 girls?

Normally I like to party and I like the crowded atmosphere, but if it's impossible to get the good girls during the B-party at Artemis, then I might reconsider.

Nille

[Zabed1970]

This will be my first visit in Berlin and I did some RTTF esp. AG's post but I still have some questions.

I'll be arriving on Sept 19th at 9 AM and I'm free on Sept 19 and 20. Are these good days for some actions in Berlin?

I'll be staying in Hotel IBIS at Brandenburgische Strasse 11 - Wilmersdorf, 10713. How far are the happening places like Artemis and KD from the hotel by public transport? (I absolutely hate to use Taxi while touring).

Lastly, I'm love analicious girls. Is it easy to find in Berlin and does it cost extra? I'm a paid member, so PM is fine too.

[Angus Magee]

Hi Gents,

I am feeling a wee regretful about my post below, the quite personal one. The regret is not because it reveals to much (well, maybe a bit of that in the mix) but I feel it is sort of inappropriate for the thread. Jackson states very clearly what the forum is about. While we do go off a bit now and then I like to keep it relevant to the topic at hand-finding beautiful working girls in all parts of the world.

So, if I could i would delete the post. As I can not I will pledge to keep it on topic from now on. At least from my side. I may slip in the occasional philosophical tid bit, but it will be directly related to te girls, not Angus' state of mind or soul.

If any of you want to discuss these other matters (or matters more personal to Angus ) keep an eye on the blog, contact me there and I will respond. Or just get in touch when coming to Berlin. We can meet for a beer,coffee or a stint at Artemis, cash flow permitting.

Thanks

AM

[DJ FourMoney]

Hi Gents,

I am feeling a wee regretful about my post below, the quite personal one. The regret is not because it reveals to much (well, maybe a bit of that in the mix) but I feel it is sort of inappropriate for the thread. Jackson states very clearly what the forum is about. While we do go off a bit now and then I like to keep it relevant to the topic at hand-finding beautiful working girls in all parts of the world.

So, if I could i would delete the post. As I can not I will pledge to keep it on topic from now on. At least from my side. I may slip in the occasional philosophical tid bit, but it will be directly related to te girls, not Angus' state of mind or soul.

If any of you want to discuss these other matters (or matters more personal to Angus ) keep an eye on the blog, contact me there and I will respond. Or just get in touch when coming to Berlin. We can meet for a beer,coffee or a stint at Artemis, cash flow permitting.

Thanks

AM

Don't sweat it AM, I share quite a bit of my private life around here. We're just apart of a larger brotherhood, sometimes you wanna spill your guts to the fellas because we tend to be a bit less judgmental. Also as we get older, we start being more selective about who were friends with and sometimes they can't understand P4P activity.

I say this web site is in pursuit of relationships be it temporary, conditional or long term. These aren't platonic relationships we are seeking, so its assumed sex is involved and required.

[Angus Magee]

Hi AM,

So you are saying that even there were many girls that night, all the good ones were booked for the owner and his guests.

As far as I know there is only 1 big VIP room, so where did the girls go?

Don't they returned to the main lounge where you can grab them? How many girls would estimate were present that night, 90-100 girls?

Normally I like to party and I like the crowded atmosphere, but if it's impossible to get the good girls during the B-party at Artemis, then I might reconsider.

Nille


Hi N C,

Oh shit my memory is a tricky thing. It is not so accurate with the details. So i can not say definitively if it was an off night over all. It was an off night for me and while I had a good time I did not do any fucking. Saved some money which was good.

I also think I go to Artemis for different reasons. For me the fucking bit is almost secondary now. It started to change at around that time when I started to session with a few regular girls rather than fucking any girl who wiggled her butt at me and winked. As I remember all my faves were absent on that evening and there was just no one who really did it for me.

It depends on how you feel abou parties in FKKs. Myself, now, I prefer the quieter times when the girls are a little at a loose end and are willing to talk a bit and play seduction games. Parties suck for this.

So I do not say do not go. Just go, if you go, with open eyes. There is money in the air on such a night. If you yourself have a bankroll the girls will sniff you out, I have no doubt of that. The owner and guests did have some of the best girls occupied as far as I could see. But I wasn't really looking all that hard so my experience was such as it was. No regret, but unless I am invited to this next one, I would probably stay at home. That is just me.

AM

PS-when I go on the 15th I do intend to ask someone for that invite. So we might see you there.

[Angus Magee]

I'll be arriving on Sept 19th at 9 AM and I'm free on Sept 19 and 20. Are these good days for some actions in Berlin?

Sunday & Monday. Not the top days but Berlin has options any day of the week. As the bordellos tend to be a bit slow on Sunday i suggest Artemis that day. KD or any other bordello would be just fine on a Monday. See my blog for a multitude of detail in the recent bordello posts.

www.angusmagee.com



I'll be staying in Hotel IBIS at Brandenburgische Strasse 11 - Wilmersdorf, 10713. How far are the happening places like Artemis and KD from the hotel by public transport?

Artemis would be walkable on a fine day (30-40 mins brisk walk) and there is a bus that drives right by your hotel (#104) and drops you at Westkreuz three minutes from the front door of Artemis. Other transit options are available. See the BVG website.

KD is about 10-15 minutes walk from your hotel. Also see on the blog Walk with Angus #2 which is a video showing the walk from Berlinerstr. & Blissestr., just down from your hotel, to KD.



Lastly, I'm love analicious girls. Is it easy to find in Berlin and does it cost extra? I'm a paid member, so PM is fine too.

Anal is available reasonably easily. At least all bordellos will have some girls offering it. The least you will pay is €25 extra. This s rare. More common is €40—€50 extra. Artemis you will pay€100 extra.

Please do write up your experiences here in the Berlin thread and/or the Artemis FKK thread.

AM

[Dustyrip]

Hi Guys,

I will report my trip when I come home on this board alright. It more than likely will be Artemis on the Friday and one of Kamilla Dee/Liberty on the Saturday and thats it.

Two final questions, is there an area on this site or elsewhere that gives you a link/shows you all the German sex terms? Also, is an hour the normal session in places like Kamilla Dee etc. I would have thought 30 minutes is?!

I am looking on some sites and seeing 'traffic'. 'with sympathy'. Etc. I don't know what most of these terms mean as they are unique to Germany as far as I can see.

[Angus Magee]

Hi Dusty,


I will report my trip when I come home on this board alright. It more than likely will be Artemis on the Friday and one of Kamilla Dee/Liberty on the Saturday and thats it.

You had better or else....

Ahhhhh who am i kidding. Or else nothing. It has happened before and will happen again. Just post, that's all


final questions, is there an area on this site or elsewhere that gives you a link/shows you all the German sex terms? Also, is an hour the normal session in places like Kamilla Dee etc. I would have thought 30 minutes is?!

Not really as I know.But there should be. There are some posts in this thread somewhere explaining some terms but they would be hard to find in a search I fear unless you feel like just scrolling through some 167 pages of forum. But hey, they should be pretty close to the front somewhere;)

Maybe that is a project for me one rainy winter Sunday afternoon? But not today. In any case post any in German you are wondering about here, or in English and i will try to give you the German translation to look for. Please do not ask for too too many.


am looking on some sites and seeing 'traffic'. 'with sympathy'. Etc. I don't know what most of these terms mean as they are unique to Germany as far as I can see.

Traffic is the translation of "Verkehr" which means fucking, penis in vagina in case....forget it. Analverkehr is anal fucking.

With sympathy simply means that the girl is open to it but reserves the right not to with a client with whom she does not feel to. But you still generally pay for the service (kissing is often with sympathy) unless you go to a place like KD where IME she kisses if she wants to and no extra charge.

You are welcome. In advance.

AM

[Nille Copenhagen]

Hi Guys,

I will report my trip when I come home on this board alright. It more than likely will be Artemis on the Friday and one of Kamilla Dee/Liberty on the Saturday and thats it.

Two final questions, is there an area on this site or elsewhere that gives you a link/shows you all the German sex terms? Also, is an hour the normal session in places like Kamilla Dee etc. I would have thought 30 minutes is?!

I am looking on some sites and seeing 'traffic'. 'with sympathy'. Etc. I don't know what most of these terms mean as they are unique to Germany as far as I can see.You can pick your time as you wish, depending on your desires and how much €€€ you'll like to spend.

30min = 80€
45min =120€
60min =160€

Example:

Analverkehr= Anal traffic = Analsex

kiss with sympathy= kisses if she find you attractive

Cheers,

Nille

[Angus Magee]

Hi Guys,

New post on Angus' blog. Sorry, not the awaited third installment to the Berlin Bordellos scen series. That one had to wait for a very special, close to my heart post. The series continues soon with part 3, The Fires. Here is a link to the new post.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=368

AM

[Zabed1970]

Thanks AM! What a wonderful work you are doing in Berlin! I'm thoroughly enjoying your blog. I'll write a report on my experience, good or bad.

[Angus Magee]

The Berlin scene, new post on Angus' blog. Well sort of the Berlin scene. In this post I got side tracked. You have been warned. See what you think.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=381

I will get back on track . Promise. Allow me these flights of fancy. I figure I've earned them.

Next post (Monday, maybe Tuesday?) Into the Fire.

AM

[Nille Copenhagen]

The Berlin scene, new post on Angus' blog. Well sort of the Berlin scene. In this post I got side tracked. You have been warned. See what you think.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=381

I will get back on track . Promise. Allow me these flights of fancy. I figure I've earned them.

Next post (Monday, maybe Tuesday?) Into the Fire.

AMGreat stuff, many words, but I was awaiting for the stories of the ugly Berlin scenes, that never came. At least for now.

I guess it is not so ugly as getting a BJ from a junkie ***** for a few bucks in the dark streets of Manila, while she's trying to steal you wallet.

Or fucking a street hooker in the abandoned trains in Copenhagen.

[Gergiev]

In this post I got side tracked. You have been warned. See what you think.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=381

I will get back on track . Promise. Allow me these flights of fancy. I figure I've earned them.
AM
Angus,

Damned good post following on the excellent one concerning your father.

No call to warn about inflicting writing of this quality upon us.

Keep on, keepin' on...

VG.

[Angus Magee]

No call to warn about inflicting writing of this quality upon us.

Keep on, keepin' on....Thanks for t he comment G. The warning? Yeah I think I can do without. It is good to have that pointed out. Writing this last piece elicited in me a slight fear response. Partly it is that the writer XXXX and Angus start to each emerge as slightly different people. Two identities is an area that has classically been associated with mental illness. Thus the slight fear. In fact I am pretty well on the ground with it all having spoken with a couple of people who I trust with these matters. Angus has some pretty wild flights when writing, this last one being an example.

I realize that for most the names used here are just a mechanism used to retain anonymity. For me Angus is an very personal and alive presence from within. He started as an internet name but has come alive. He is very much blended with xxxxx but is distinct at the same time. It all get very psychological and I have little patience with psychology except where it blends with mythology.

I do have a hell of a lot of fun writing. Maybe more than I have mongering. Hard really to separate them so I do not try.

AM

[Great Wall]

I have 9 hours of waiting at Berlin TXL airport. Are there attractions nearby that I can explore within 9 hours (from 12:00 to 21:00)? What can I do within 9 hours there?

[Angus Magee]

I have 9 hours of waiting at Berlin TXL airport. Are there attractions nearby that I can explore within 9 hours (from 12:00 to 21:00)? What can I do within 9 hours there?Is that 9 hrs. total?or 9 hours plus checkin time? Even if ( say you have 8 hrs. on the ground) the lesser you have plenty of time to visit almost any bordello of which I speak here. Tegel is actually pretty close to things and well serviced by transit.

Take the bus (X9I think but check) to the UBahn 7 line and you can reach almost any bordello (KD, Royal, MR) within about 20 mins..

Or take a bus to the ring line and hop on down to Westkreuz to Artemis. This trip, including bus to the ring line would probably take a half hour.

Use the BVG website to find routes & times. It is pretty exact when things run on time and this is Germany so usually they do.

For any more specific recommendations get a bit more specific as to what you want.

Also there are a couple of places in Reinikendorf
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinickendorf > which is even closer to Tegel. I myself have not much knowledge of these places except that they are there. Here is a link to one of them which I hear is pretty good. Sort of on par with Liberty.

http://www.intime-modelle.de/

As you can see on the map it is sort of right next door to Tegel. Maybe there is even a moving walkway to the front door ;)

AM