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Angus Magee
11-12-11, 20:29
I'm going to send this in case this machine shuts down and continue.Thanks for the report Dealdo. Maybe you are losing your reprots to the ISG timeout? That is when writing reports you have a specified time in which to do it. This is part of the ISG set up determined by Jackson, the owner / webmaster. While I have never timed it I think it is somewhere around 30 mins. Before the report window times out and you lose your report if you have not saved it.

I would suggest always writing longer reports in a text editing program and then copying and pasting into the report field only when finished. At the very least copy the report frequently to the clip board to save your self losing long reports.

Regards.

AM

Dealdo
11-12-11, 20:39
Thanks for the report Dealdo. Maybe you are losing your reprots to the ISG timeout? That is when writing reports you have a specified time in which to do it. This is part of the ISG set up determined by Jackson, the owner / webmaster. While I have never timed it I think it is somewhere around 30 mins. Before the report window times out and you lose your report if you have not saved it.

I would suggest always writing longer reports in a text editing program and then copying and pasting into the report field only when finished. At the very least copy the report frequently to the clip board to save your self losing long reports.

Regards.

AMThank you my friend Angus,

You know, I do that same thing but this public computers don't save, don't copy paste etc.

And ISG is blocked for some scrips in this machines as well, so I have to hurry, is a mess, Ok just for the comunitythat helped me a lot with such a lot of info I have to put my share.

Dealdo
11-12-11, 21:09
Continuation Artemis:

Cindy: Polish slim girl, blond nice chat but not that nice service, provably tired, but she seam to be in a rush and needed a lot of gel. So I can't tell, with me wasn't that great. Fake moaning, and an integrated cheap audio porno cd on: "oh yeah, oh yeah, fck me baby". What ever. I don't know but I just don't buy this. I'm not into that, but I know there some guys who dig it, So there she is.

Sandra? Demm forgot her name. Rumanian, very nice, not upselling brown skin, need a little bit of work out that cute body.

Hilary: WHAT an ANIMAL. She is great in the bed, just like a pornostar, (one of the good ones you know). Super wet BJ, viciuos girl. She lovesss sex and she does it in any way, her body is slim but hard, trim. Beautiful small firm tits. She devoured my mouth kissing me. Great time. Even at the end she begged for anal. (This could be a trick becuse is an extra charge you know) But I was so horny that I didn't give a sht. LOL all my blood was downstairs that the upper head could think at all. LOL. Thos blue eyes sparkel in the room like snake eyes. Amazing girl. We spend a long time almost sleeping after sex, was great. Recomedable, I haven't seen more reports of her I hope she is always like that.

Maribel from Rumania. She is pretty young very white skin. Fresh as it can be, nice sex but not memorable. She is kind of dumb though she has only two words, Yes and Thanks, kind of like a army Russian girl. Not that bright brain, doesn't make a good conversation. But in bed is OK, she is natural and try to please. Nice body though.

MAYA. SOrry I got ecxited LOL. MAya Maya Maya. What a GOrgeous girl. My goshhh. She is the most perfect girl there in my opinion. She is a Blond, blue aqua eyes, perfect, perfect fit hard body girl from Poland. She has this exotic look, super sexy. She sees me and makes me horny right away. I wasn't sure. A day before she was super busy, in my politic a never do poppular girls in busy days, so we where teasing all day. She was hitting on me hard, I do not know why because she had a big line all day long. So I told her next day. Next day I wasn't sure either, my friend was with her and he said was terrible. Always talking and being negative about everything. But she is so demm hot, she saw me and call me. She was completely naked and she robbed her body agains mine, I lost control and took the risk. Small head has a mind of it's own.

Action was AweSOME. Attac me like a panter. What a beautiful body, perfect athletic body, perfect tan, so sexy mouth. We fck like the end of the world. All kind of positions, she scratched my back and pull me hard to bang her more. She moaned, screamed, trembled, was great.

So I don't understand girls, pros and non pros. They are unpredictable. So there is a big warning, she can be a bad egg and she said that she is not that pattient so, you have to get her in her good mode. I treated her like a not hard to get girl and probably that's why she felt, who nows. As you guys know they are a mistery.

There are more. Most of them good providers, but not that awesome bodies so I forgot names. Good luck guys.

Bobo.fr
11-13-11, 00:43
Continuation Artemis:

Don't you think that thread would be more appropriate :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin

Nille Copenhagen
11-13-11, 03:07
Kimi: Sweden super blond girl. Amazing body perfect face, nice smile. Always busy and big waiting lines. I had to do her, she is one of the super stars I knew was a lotto but took the chance but not Wnsday, she was so busy and many horny guys where complaning about the worst service ever. I had her next day, I kind of booked her for the first service, we did it, she smelled so good and I was so horny, service was just OK, she likes toys and lonnnngg longg BJS awesome this. Action was kind of disappointing. She is like a bad gringa not too much of hot blood I would say. She doesn't even know how to kiss, But I wanted to be with a centerfold, she could be. So be carefull and expect some bad times probably, and a lot of upselling. I didn't fall for this but she is all about your credit cards.Are you sure she was from Sweden?

I didn't know that there was girls from Sweden at Artemis, at least then my Nordic friend would have toll me.

She love toy, what toys yours or her own?

I guess she played with your mind.

Rocketboy0
11-13-11, 08:40
Angus Magee and Dornstadt, thanks guys for all your help.

Where I live now, for €200 I can have 3 times the same or better kind of service with top class girls (and I stress TOP CLASS GIRLS) , and maybe 6 times with good / fair girls and still have some money left. Once again, thank you honestly for all your help. I am staying 12 days in Berlin, and I will read through Berlin thread probably several more times, but I think I'll take my chance on the street.Duka. There are some bordellos eg Starlight, maybe Tomsen, Ginas Tango Rose, no doubt others in Neuköln (see das Dude, Angus Magee blog for all) where you might be able to get by for 50€ a pop. Another idea is go to the better bordellos get a really good girl, but just go for 20 min. (Or really save bucks and go for 1 minute). The street scene. You might get lucky but odds are you'll get ripped off, or worse. Maybe the downmarket thing appeals, who knows. I dunno what is the point really- you are in Berlin, still one of the cheapest mongering cities in the world, why not scrimp on food or hotel rather than this, and instead enjoy some really fine women for what they are, vs. Some optimal shopping tour, where worry over funds may conflict with fun? With a little wise decision-making, your budget would still allow 2-3 sessions with the A-Team. Maybe the energy is better spent on just a few really good sessions, vs a lot of sleeze, some danger, and risk of disappointment? You are here, this is the way it is. You realise that net, you are probably fretting over a couple of hundred Euros, in total, over a 1. 5 weeks? Sounds a bit barking to me.

Curious about where you live. If it is such a great poon paradise, maybe we should all go there? Or you should save your funds for when you return.

Ipayutogoaway
11-13-11, 11:18
Yes I agree it is a rarity and more likely with a girl you have seen more than once. Thanks for the the link they look more like a BDSM salon type of place than I would be comfortable with. Anyway I am sure I will enjoy Berlin and will post any action of note.

Cheers


All I can say is good luck with that. It is a rarity, one that few girls will provide even as extra duty. Can you really blame them?

All I can suggest is a place I have never tried but that has the reputation as an "anything goes" bordello. Be warned though, anything includes condom-less sex. I can not recommend it as I have never been there and it is unlikely that I would. But if you want to get your asshole licked this would probably be the place.

http://www.sklavia-berlin.de/einleitung.html

Ask for "Zungenanal". I think it will cost you €30 extra.

Good Luck.

AM

Kimino
11-13-11, 11:18
Curious about where you live. If it is such a great poon paradise, maybe we should all go there? Or you should save your funds for when you return.Ciao RB!

It's the same here in Italy. I have a couple of good friends that fuck like rabbits, super good looking girls and often they even get the dinner offered. The bastards. :)

It's a cruel world.

Anyways guys, do what you want up in Berlin but please leave something behind for Kimino, coming up in a couple of days, with vague and contradictory plans of action.

Ciaoooo

Dealdo
11-13-11, 11:22
Don't you think that thread would be more appropriate :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-BerlinYes you are right, well the begining of the threat was prives, so I didn't know where to put it, besides I'm in a big hurry all the time and computers won't cooperate with me these days, sorry for the missplacing.

Dealdo
11-13-11, 11:33
Are you sure she was from Sweden?

I didn't know that there was girls from Sweden at Artemis, at least then my Nordic friend would have toll me.

She love toy, what toys yours or her own?

I guess she played with your mind.Almost sure bro, she is half Sweden half German, and you can tell. She has softern futures. Is just a doll.

Well she has her own toys, battery operating ones, she pulled out a weird looking sharp small chilli looking thing. She loves to enjoy it wile she does that formidable BJ. I was kind of scare to introduce it because it is so pointy but she handled it.

Remeber the warning before you take her, she is ALL about your bank account. Is kind of fun when she wants, I think is hard that she wants to be nice, mostly my guess she is mechanical but she looks gorgeous in all the possitions.

Good luck and report back please, I'm curious about more reports of her, in real life most of the guys were real mad about the service.

Dealdo
11-13-11, 11:42
Angus Magee and Dornstadt, thanks guys for all your help.

@Angus Magee.

Thanks for the help and the tips you gave me. I did look through the thread before posting, and the prices that are mentioned are always in €100+ range. That is why I started the new report. I did not know about your blog, I checked it out this morning and will go through it again.

Like I said, the thing is that I am on a budget, and basically I can't spend more than €300 on girls in total. Also, I do understand that in modern global economy prices and incomes vary from place to place, and country to country, but it would be kind of ridiculous to overspend in such a dramatic way. For example, if I understood properly the Artemis page, for entrance+erotics+cim I would pay €200. Where I live now, for €200 I can have 3 times the same or better kind of service with top class girls (and I stress TOP CLASS GIRLS) , and maybe 6 times with good / fair girls and still have some money left. Once again, thank you honestly for all your help. I am staying 12 days in Berlin, and I will read through Berlin thread probably several more times, but I think I'll take my chance on the street.

DukaWhere are you from Duka? I would like to try those TOP CLASS girls. 200 for 3? wowww. I want to go there.

Being honest 60 for a good one at Artmis is not that much. But please share your golden nime with us.

Good luck at Berlin, probably you want to try the Kinos action. Mr Magus page talk about them in there is a huge map on the map section.

Dealdo
11-13-11, 11:46
Ciao RB!

It's the same here in Italy. I have a couple of good friends that fuck like rabbits, super good looking girls and often they even get the dinner offered. The bastards. .

It's a cruel world.

Anyways guys, do what you want up in Berlin but please leave something behind for Kimino, coming up in a couple of days, with vague and contradictory plans of action.

CiaooooGood luck bro. I know you will do just fine, such a proffessional monger can't go wrong in Berlin.

I may go to Italia soon. So let's stay on touch and see what can we do. So sad I'm going to miss your trip to Berlin. We could have had a blast. Last night we were in a night club and pick up some girls. They just left. Crazy gals from Austria. THIS CiTY ROCKS!

Rocketboy0
11-13-11, 11:47
Ciao RB! It's the same here in Italy. It's a cruel world.
Anyways guys, do what you want up in Berlin but please leave something behind for Kimino, coming up in a couple of days, with vague and contradictory plans of action.
CiaooooKimino- Not to worry - there will be plenty left for you.

It is indeed a cruel world. Most people have not realized in their celebrations that, now that your ex Ministro Primo, is out of a job, he will have a lot more time on his hands.
And with those billions, and his interest in Bunga Bunga, I guess the mongerino prices in Milano are bound to sky-rocket.

Once again, Germany is called upon to save the day.

The Limey
11-13-11, 11:58
Finally tracked down my old flame Helena from Artemis, now rebranded as Ella at Odette, and fabulously blonde (!). These days she looks like a perfect Barbie doll, except springier of course. I don't know if she owes her body to God or Man, but you can grope it forever without finding a flaw.

Ella is a creature of the night. The thing about me is that I like club girls, but without the hassle of going to clubs. I brought along my own CD. In the shower before the main event, I nearly jumped and slipped when a big booming noise started up. She had slotted in the CD, picked the loudest track, and pushed the volume up to the max, with a noise that was shaking the whole brothel. When I hurried back to the room she was dancing away merrily to "Fish is Jumping". Apparently it is a song that was quite popular in her grandfather's time (the 1980s) and consequently has a sort of German-folk-ballad status in her mind.

I turned the music to something slower and more romantic, and we got jiggly. We stood together and she held me close for some DFK, while the tip of my straining cock just touched that wet spot: her tantalizing trademark.

She only speaks German. She talked again about her love of Russian guys."I'm not Russian," I admitted."I'm only from the UK."

"Oh well," she said philosophically,"At least you're not Italian." (Apologies to Artemis.)

We hit the sheets and banged around in all sorts of positions. It rocked. I told her she reminded me of the girl from Run Lola Run. She loved that movie.

Here I draw a discrete veil over our frolicking. If you want more details, you'll have to try the real thing. Phone Odette and try to make an appointment. A word of caution: despite her official status as Public-Lady-and-Joy-to-All-Men, I fear that I am the only foreigner Ella will entertain at the moment. Still, anyone who wishes to break my heart is welcome to give it a go. If you can talk convincingly about your oilfields in the Caucasus, you are in with a shot.

By the way, to make a general comment about searching for fun in Berlin (and here I would like to address the silent majority of tens of thousands of innocent grazing mongers, not the highly vocal group of three or four dominating this thread) you have to be really careful who and what you believe. There was a study done at Cornell University recently showing that people in general are really bad at separating truthful reviews from fake reviews. I think ISG is more reliable than TripAdvisor and Amazon in this area, but it's still very much a case of caveat emptor. I remember the days when I too was a distant lurker, reading all the reviews here mouth agape and taking them all at face value. Later, I was startled by the contrast between what I read and the reality in some cases.

If I could go back in time, what would I tell myself? Well, definitely it is a great scene here in Berlin, but you really need to use your own judgement to make the best of it. If you are new to a bordello or a girl, book the minimum time, then expand on it later if your experience warrants it. Also watch out for anyone trying to "guide" you: remember, such individuals will often have undeclared interests. Girls respect guys who can find their own way. In particular you should be wary of being advised by any poster who seems too close to management at the establishments he reports on. This is a case where "experience" may not be an advantage but actually a hindrance to objectivity. It is another big red flag if that person feels the need to "defend his turf" here on the board. I am talking about the sort of crawling mentality that automatically sees independent voices, even friendly ones, as "the competition" and considers it his mission to chase them off.

If you are a customer, then you want to hear things from the customer's viewpoint, I. E. Putting service first not profits.

Jovan
11-13-11, 12:33
Duka. There are some bordellos eg Starlight, maybe Tomsen, Ginas Tango Rose, no doubt others in Neuköln (see das Dude, Angus Magee blog for all) where you might be able to get by for 50€ a pop. Another idea is go to the better bordellos get a really good girl, but just go for 20 min. (Or really save bucks and go for 1 minute). The street scene. You might get lucky but odds are you'll get ripped off, or worse. Maybe the downmarket thing appeals, who knows. I dunno what is the point really- you are in Berlin, still one of the cheapest mongering cities in the world, why not scrimp on food or hotel rather than this, and instead enjoy some really fine women for what they are, vs. Some optimal shopping tour, where worry over funds may conflict with fun? With a little wise decision-making, your budget would still allow 2-3 sessions with the A-Team. Maybe the energy is better spent on just a few really good sessions, vs a lot of sleeze, some danger, and risk of disappointment? You are here, this is the way it is. You realise that net, you are probably fretting over a couple of hundred Euros, in total, over a 1. 5 weeks? Sounds a bit barking to me.

Curious about where you live. If it is such a great poon paradise, maybe we should all go there? Or you should save your funds for when you return.Hey Rocketboy. Thanks for the advice. I checked the clubs you mentioned, and so far they are the best deal I've seen. Especially, the Gina's Tango Rosa, which, if I understood correctly, has the quicky 30€ menu. I'll try to work something out. I am 100% sure that I'll screw something and I'll write my report here : ).

As for the other things, trust me, I am scrimping on everything but the girls : ). I am staying with my familly (not the hotel) , eating what they eat. Besides getting laid, I only planned some sight-seeing, going to a couple of Museums (e. G. Stassi Museum) , and watching Herta Berliner, who unfortunatelly won't be playing in Berlin, so I can forget about them. I don't drink alcohol at all or do drugs, women are 90% of my expenses.

As for the rest of your question, I live in Serbia, and I am planning to write a guide for "how to get laid in Serbia". It's obviously much different than Germany. In Serbia, you don't have that many bordellos, you either call escort, pick a girl from the street, or what I prefer, you know girls who are not hookers in broadest sense, but actually work on the side with guys they know. Top escort girls, young in their early 20s, when they come to you charge 60-70€ for half hour. But, what's better then Germany is that things like CIM, deep throat, kissing if you like that, etc. Come already included in price. Also, overwhelming majority gives BJ without protection. They rarely do anal. Ok, I don't know what is the top class for you. These girls are usually not with silicon tits and silicon lips, but they are all young, with really pretty faces, and know how to do their work and satisfy a guy. Older women who work as escorts, in their 40s, charge even less, around 30€. I don't mind them, and from time to time I have sessions with them.

It's not only Serbia actually, Bulgaria is similar somewhat. I was in Sunny Beach this summer, and I nailed 6 girls for slightly higher then 300€. And it was July, height of the season, and only 2 were street hookers, and 4 were from brothels. That's what I meant when I said about overpaying. The amount I spent on 6 girls in Bulgaria (3 of them being really young and beautiful, the rest good / fair) I don't feel like spending on only 2 girls in Germany who are, by the way, probably also Bulgarian : ).

I am sorry if I went off-topic, but I really had to answer to a direct question, and let you guys know that I really know what I am talking about and that there is actually I think a normal logic in my choice. And no, Serbia is not poon paradise, poon paradise are Thailand and India. Girls in Thailand look at you like you are God the Almighty no matter how you actually look, and with 30€ you can basically do whatever you want. And in India girls charge like 3€ per session. So like for 10€ you can have threesome.

Hell yeah, that's paradise for me! .

Jovan
11-13-11, 12:36
Ciao RB!

It's the same here in Italy. I have a couple of good friends that fuck like rabbits, super good looking girls and often they even get the dinner offered. The bastards. .

It's a cruel world.

Anyways guys, do what you want up in Berlin but please leave something behind for Kimino, coming up in a couple of days, with vague and contradictory plans of action.

CiaooooHey bro, I wish I was one of them! I get fair amount of sex, but at the market prices! But stay satisfied, I think there will be planty of. To go around when you finally get to Berlin.

Kimino
11-13-11, 14:19
Finally tracked down my old flame Helena from Artemis, now rebranded as Ella at Odette, and fabulously blonde (!). These days she looks like a perfect Barbie doll, except springier of course. I don't know if she owes her body to God or Man, but you can grope it forever without finding a flaw.

"Oh well," she said philosophically,"At least you're not Italian." (Apologies to Artemis.) Ella aka Helena used to be a great favorite of mine, and I am planning to meet her in Odette, might try it in the next tour. I'm quite sure she had no issues with Italians. Been with her a lot of times and for sure I don't look like a brit.

Blonde? That's a shock.

Kimino

Nille Copenhagen
11-13-11, 15:38
Where are you from Duka? I would like to try those TOP CLASS girls. 200 for 3?

I want to go there.

Being honest 60 for a good one at Artmis is not that much. But please share your golden nime with us.

Good luck at Berlin, probably you want to try the Kinos action. Mr Magus page talk about them in there is a huge map on the map section.Just a tip, Polen and Ukraine are cheaper for topclass girls.

Bobo.fr
11-13-11, 16:35
. Etc. Where I live now, for €200 I can have 3 times the same or better kind of service with top class girls (and I stress TOP CLASS GIRLS) , and maybe 6 times with good / fair girls and still have some money left. Once again, thank you honestly for all your help. I am staying 12 days in Berlin, and I will read through Berlin thread probably several more times, but I think I'll take my chance on the street.Lucky man!

"Where I live", €200 is the "regular" price for an one-hour meeting; examples :

http://niamodel3.com/site/femme.php?n=26841
http://niamodel.com/popup/femme/19845
http://niamodel.com/popup/femme/28511
http://niamodel.com/popup/femme/29283
http://niamodel.com/popup/femme/17334


Sometimes, higher prices; examples :

http://niamodel.com/popup/femme/11921
http://niamodel.com/popup/femme/15666
http://niamodel.com/popup/femme/20292

Angus Magee
11-13-11, 17:09
Can anyone tell me anything about Kurfürstenstraße? Was anyone there? Also, I've seen somewhere on the net that there are girls working in trailers on the place called Heidestraße? Also, don't laugh now please, when I was a kid, I read the book and watched the movie "Wir Kinder vom Bahnhof Zoo". Does the place where Christiane used to work for money still exist and operate (I forgot what it was called)?

I'll report of my trips and action in the streets of Berlin here on the forum.

DukaPerhaps you just prefer the street action? Nothing wrong in that and I do understand the attraction. I simply wish to point out that purely from a price point of view the street is not cheaper here in Berlin.

Kurfürstenstr. Is found near Bülowstr on the map I sent last time. There are girls on Bülowstr. Up towards Nollendorfplatz, on Kurfürstenstr. And on a couple of the side roads connecting them. On the corner of Kurfürstenstr. And Potsdammerstr is an LSD sex and film store where I am told some girls take their clients for a BJ in the video cabins. Not sure about prices but with a half hour lay going for €40 I am sure you could get a BJ for half that.

The other stroll you ask about is up in Reinickendorf in the north part of the city.

http://g.co/maps/7u683

I have also heard that on Heidestr. Some ladies have small trailers in which to conduct business.

The Zoo Bhnhof used to be a place some went to pick up girls. But this was 20-30 years ago and I have never seen evidence of this while I have been in Berlin. I think it is a long dead location.

Much as I have no interest in street action myself these days it would be good to get a report from you so I hope that you follow through with it.

AM

Jovan
11-13-11, 17:12
I am leaving in one hour for Germany. I wrote reply this morning to Rocketboy. It still wasn't published at after 6-7 hours. I am pasting my reply from this morning hoping it will be announced. I know what I am talking about and I have my own logic.

Regards to everyone,

Duka


Duka. There are some bordellos eg Starlight, maybe Tomsen, Ginas Tango Rose, no doubt others in Neuköln (see das Dude, Angus Magee blog for all) where you might be able to get by for 50€ a pop. Another idea is go to the better bordellos get a really good girl, but just go for 20 min. (Or really save bucks and go for 1 minute). The street scene. You might get lucky but odds are you'll get ripped off, or worse. Maybe the downmarket thing appeals, who knows. I dunno what is the point really- you are in Berlin, still one of the cheapest mongering cities in the world, why not scrimp on food or hotel rather than this, and instead enjoy some really fine women for what they are, vs. Some optimal shopping tour, where worry over funds may conflict with fun? With a little wise decision-making, your budget would still allow 2-3 sessions with the A-Team. Maybe the energy is better spent on just a few really good sessions, vs a lot of sleeze, some danger, and risk of disappointment? You are here, this is the way it is. You realise that net, you are probably fretting over a couple of hundred Euros, in total, over a 1. 5 weeks? Sounds a bit barking to me.

Curious about where you live. If it is such a great poon paradise, maybe we should all go there? Or you should save your funds for when you return.Hey Rocketboy. Thanks for the advice. I checked the clubs you mentioned, and so far they are the best deal I've seen. Especially, the Gina's Tango Rosa, which, if I understood correctly, has the quicky 30€ menu. I'll try to work something out. I am 100% sure that I'll screw something and I'll write my report here : ).

As for the other things, trust me, I am scrimping on everything but the girls : ). I am staying with my familly (not the hotel) , eating what they eat. Besides getting laid, I only planned some sight-seeing, going to a couple of Museums (e. G. Stassi Museum) , and watching Herta Berliner, who unfortunatelly won't be playing in Berlin, so I can forget about them. I don't drink alcohol at all or do drugs, women are 90% of my expenses.

As for the rest of your question, I live in Serbia, and I am planning to write a guide for "how to get laid in Serbia". It's obviously much different than Germany. In Serbia, you don't have that many bordellos, you either call escort, pick a girl from the street, or what I prefer, you know girls who are not hookers in broadest sense, but actually work on the side with guys they know. Top escort girls, young in their early 20s, when they come to you charge 60-70€ for half hour. But, what's better then Germany is that things like CIM, deep throat, kissing if you like that, etc. Come already included in price. Also, overwhelming majority gives BJ without protection. They rarely do anal. Ok, I don't know what is the top class for you. These girls are usually not with silicon tits and silicon lips, but they are all young, with really pretty faces, and know how to do their work and satisfy a guy. Older women who work as escorts, in their 40s, charge even less, around 30€. I don't mind them, and from time to time I have sessions with them.

It's not only Serbia actually, Bulgaria is similar somewhat. I was in Sunny Beach this summer, and I nailed 6 girls for slightly higher then 300€. And it was July, height of the season, and only 2 were street hookers, and 4 were from brothels. That's what I meant when I said about overpaying. The amount I spent on 6 girls in Bulgaria (3 of them being really young and beautiful, the rest good / fair) I don't feel like spending on only 2 girls in Germany who are, by the way, probably also Bulgarian : ).

I am sorry if I went off-topic, but I really had to answer to a direct question, and let you guys know that I really know what I am talking about and that there is actually I think a normal logic in my choice. And no, Serbia is not poon paradise, poon paradise are Thailand and India. Girls in Thailand look at you like you are God the Almighty no matter how you actually look, and with 30€ you can basically do whatever you want. And in India girls charge like 3€ per session. So like for 10€ you can have threesome.

Hell yeah, that's paradise for me! .

Nille Copenhagen
11-13-11, 20:03
Lucky man!

"Where I live", €200 is the "regular" price for an one-hour meeting; examples :

http://niamodel3.com/site/femme.php?n=26841I wonder where is highest 30 min. Session in the world?

Where I live 30min. Good quality session is around 150€ with Danish girls, you can get lower price with foreigner girls.

On the other hands freebies are quite easy to score Friday / Saturday night, YMMV.

Brownangel954
11-13-11, 20:59
This is my first report on my recent visit to Berlin.

First let me say that not everyone likes what I like. I previously made a glowing report about some visit and someone went there and was disappointed. I am older and will only come once in a session and so I like lots of foreplay. I usually go for a 30 min session. I like touch. Both ways. I like to put my finger in her vagina, but I will always seek her permission. I usually ask for a back massage to begin with. For me there is nothing better than an erotic massage to get warmed up. I also like some relaxing conversation. Doesn't have to be about anything in particular. Just to help relax and feel some kind of respectful contact with the girl. As for the sex itself, I don't need anything complicated. Also I'm not particular about age. I find it important that she drops her clothes at the beginning. I mean that she should be comfortable about being naked. I don't like BBW but up to 70 kg is OK. That's my disclaimer.

I read about L'Amour on Angus Magee's blog and decided to check it out.

www.lamour2a.de

There were 4 girls in the lineout at around 5 pm. The girls had picked up on the fact that I speak English from my broken German and 2 of the 4 girls made an effort to show that they speak English. That was a good start. I found all 4 girls attractive and chose Julia, who speaks good English. She's Romanian. I went for 30 min. I found her very respectful and easy to be with. She understood what I wanted and obliged. I was able to touch her in most places. Her nipples were tender and when I saw that I moved elsewhere. She was receptive to my finger in her vagina and we had some fun with that as she alternately tightened and loosened her grip. Her massage was warm, tender and responsive to my needs. I opted for missionary and being inside her was heavenly. She repeated the tightening and loosening and I liked it very much. After I came out we lay there talking. I was impressed by the fact that she gave me fulll time. I often find that does not happen. When the act is over they usually signal you to leave. I touched her and we talked until the knock on the door.

The room was comfortable and nicely decorated and spacious. There was no shower mentioned. I forgot to ask if that was an option. Note that Quedlinburger Strasse is on a bus route (the bus from Zoologischer Garten to Tegel stops here).

In summary, what I liked most was the sense of respect and relaxation and attention to my needs. I wonder if that has something to do with the humanistic ethos of the other half of this bordell, which is providing sex for disabled people. I give it thumbs up.

Niby Lu
11-14-11, 00:18
I've searched KG after your post, and that place so far looks fairly accaptable with its €99 policy. I can't believe they don't actually have a web page.They do: http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/

I've been once to Artemis and once to KG, and I would rather spend that 300 on one visit at Artemis than 3 visits to KG.

I also, admittedly, was to Kurf. Str, and while I wasn't mugged or anything like that, what I experienced isn't worth reporting. That is to say, if you really need to fuck a lot for your buck, KG will be more, better, cheaper, safer, cleaner and frendlier than streets. Just my 0. 02€.

Bobo.fr
11-14-11, 02:04
KD's Sophie :

I called KD for an appointment with Felicia on the following day.

A very nice voice answered to me and proposed me an appointment.

I asked for her name and she was Sophie.

I already met Sophie but never was in room with her (I don't like tattoes)

As I found the voice very attractive, I asked to meet her : she had more tattoes than I expected but they were small. No kisses (she already warned me before the meeting)

(On that night (Thursday?) , the bell was out of order).

I was informed by KD's escort service that a meeting with Ella would be possible on the following day from 11:00 to 14:00 or on next Monday afternoon.

As Sophie already notified me an appointment with Felicia at 15:15, I decided to meet Ella on Monday.

On the following day, I called to confirm my appointment with Felicia, as I couldn't speak German, it was Youko who answered to me in French (wow!).

I was told that Felicia would have to leave the place before my appointment.

I remembered that I already had such a cancellation some months ago, so I asked KD's escort service to check if she didn't want to avoid me : I was confirmed that she didn't feel good chemistry with me. So KD and me would not have to waste our time to try to organize other appointments / arrangements with Felicia anymore.

So I asked to meet Ella on that day but it was not possible anymore.

I tried to ask for an appointment with Julia at Monrouge but was said that she was not in Berlin.

Royal's Luisa:

I had a look at ISG and found Louisa who was new in Royal and, especially, did not do CIM : Royal answered me that she was there so I came to meet her.

At Royal (and Monrouge) , kisses need extras (10€ in Monrouge. 20€ in Royal) so I paid 170€ to spend 1 hour with shy (paid kisses were rarely hot as I expected) kisses from Luisa.

KD's Renee :

On Saturday night, I met a new lady in KD : Renee.

I had the feeling that (but may be I was wrong) she was thinking a lot about this job.

We spent 1h45 in room (the house closed at 21:00 on Saturday) but I did not "come"; she thought that I was angry of the meeting. I confirmed to her that I wasn't angry.

No kisses (she already warned me before the meeting)

Some days later, I came to meet her again.

I asked her if she really would like to spend time with me : "Honestly, no".

But OK, I think I could convince her (by my return asking for a meeting) that I wasn't angry of the previous meeting and that's the main purpose of my this second visit to Renee.

KD's Betty :

She was funny and active.

No kisses but the meeting was hot however.

Miscellaneous :

1) Penny: in the past I met Penny twice but never was in room with her (once during her parade, another time it was her who opened the door and led me to the waiting room) because she was always busy; during this November stay, she was ill, so I could not meet her.

However, one day before my departure, an "arrangement" could be made for a meeting on the next day at 14:00.

At around 10:00, I was informed that she cancelled the appointment; well, let's be positive : "a Penny saved is a Penny earned".

2) For me, I should consider that the prices in these clubs are :

KD : 160€/h.

Royal : 170€/h.

MonRouge : 160€/h.

Because without extras, for sure I will not have any kisses at Royal and MonRouge.

Up to now, paid kisses were better provided at MonRouge (especially with Sybel) than at Royal, even if the extras rates for kisses are 20€ at Royal and only 10€ at MonRouge.

3)

Sophie : http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/sophie.htm

Ella : http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/ella-e.htm

Luisa : http://www.royalgirl.de/bordell-berlin/luisa.html

Renee : http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/rene.htm

Betty : http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/betty.htm

Gergiev
11-14-11, 04:18
Here is the limited and somewhat cryptic website to this place.

http://www.cafe-pssst.de/menue.html

I would not expect to find anyone too young here, mostly 30-40 year olds as far as I could make out on numerous walk bys when I used to live in the area. Personally I would rather dispense with the illusory "pick up bar" facade and just get down to business as in the confines of Artemis.Angus, I wouldn't disagree with anything you wrote above.

Reason I posted this is because of the criteria that Kronos posted in the original enquiry: So you can have a drink and check things out. Instead of the line up thing.

Plus it's definitely quite exotic to be in a bar that operates like a normal bar where the erotic is simultaneously above and below the surface, if you get what I mean.

Age profile when I was last there was more like 20-40 although there were definitely some "normal couples" who were there for the frisson that goes with the premises and its atmosphere.

But seeing as Kronos hasn't bothered to acknowledge our replies, who cares either way...

VG

Member #4626
11-14-11, 12:27
That could be something to do with their advent promotion which they do every year. I am really not sure how it works though. It does involve someone getting a free session, That is about all I could figure out. The start of advent this year would be on Dec. 4th I think.

AMThanks for the response Sir Magee.

It is a little bit ironic that a brothel has a promotional event about a religious event.

Just for the record. 1st advent Sunday this year is November 27th.

Bobo.fr
11-15-11, 00:48
I forgot to mention Annabel (http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/annabel.htm) that I met for the first time.

I don't really remember on which day I met her but very probably on a week-end's night.

She was very cheerful, smiled and laughed a lot. The meeting was nice. I don't remember if she kissed; if she did, I don't think that her kisses were deep.

If I remember well, I began with a 30 minutes meeting and extended it into 1 hour.

I tried to meet Ophelia (http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/ophelia.htm) : according to the escort's service, she needed a lot of personal information of me, so we stopped the process (by the way, hotel visits only)

Rocketboy0
11-15-11, 09:28
In the towering shadow of Artemis, just up and opposite the Hallensee S-Bahn stop, lies the often overlooked Salon Prestige. I recently partook of the services of Lilly (so so, nothing special) , and Sventlana who is something special. Slovinian. 23, killer body, full naturals thin, very slow and gentle, and very recommended. Works 3 X p week, mostly days sort of 12-1600.

No pics on the website.

http://salon-prestige-berlin.de/ladies.html

But a real looker. DFK, DATY, lots of positions, and she can suck a golf ball (tenderly) through a garden hose, as Willy Nelson once said. 120 EUR for 45 roughly minutes (things are a little loose there-more like an hour really).

Kimino
11-15-11, 15:26
Finally, I visited Monrouge. Called at around 12:00 just to ask if some girls where present and reached the place 10 minutes after. My hotel is real near.

Walked up the first floor, a young lady made me enter the place and took me to a room, quite dark. The place is nice and quite elegant.

2 girls where shown to me. Monica and Dazia or something like that. Monica told me her prices during the parade, from which I understood that probably not all the girls ask the same money. She said: "This is my prices". A very sweet girl and also bautiful, I chosed her.

Took a shower, was given a robe and asked what I wanted to drink. I gave the money. 1hr is 150, uncovered BJ is 40, kissing is 10. Took the whole kit.

Monica is 25, from central Romania, long brown hair, very very fit and tonic body. Small beautiful tits, a nice smile. Not sure but probably brown eyes.

She started off with a very nice body massage with oil, saying that was an extra that she wanted to give me free. Anyways, the general quality of the service was superb, maybe a bit short on the BJ but very well done.

Talking about total GFE.

It definitely clicked, or at least she was super good at letting me believe she was having fun too. After sex we talked a lot, she told me lot's of stuff about her life and what she is doing. A super nice girl, with a lot of brains, I was impressed.

So, I did enjoy her, liked Monrouge, all was fine.

I'll be doing some stuff and later will probably visit Artemis.

Kimino

Tan123
11-16-11, 00:59
Finally, I visited Monrouge.

2 girls where shown to me. Monica and Dazia or something like that. Monica told me her prices during the parade, from which I understood that probably not all the girls ask the same money. She said: "This is my prices". A very sweet girl and also bautiful, I chosed her.

Took a shower, was given a robe and asked what I wanted to drink. I gave the money. 1hr is 150, uncovered BJ is 40, kissing is 10. Took the whole kit.

Monica is 25, from central Romania, long brown hair, very very fit and tonic body. Small beautiful tits, a nice smile. Not sure but probably brown eyes.

She started off with a very nice body massage with oil, saying that was an extra that she wanted to give me free. Anyways, the general quality of the service was superb, maybe a bit short on the BJ but very well done.

KiminoBro Kimino. She is worth the price. Visited MR last weekend and wanted to try her but she was busy serving others. But I still had a great time with maria (from spain). Will write the FR when time allows. Overall MR is good place recommended for a visit.

Toxical
11-16-11, 05:24
I will be arriving in Berlin next week (Wednesday 23rd) and staying 7 days in the Prenzlauer Berg area.

While there I certainly hope to visit Artemis, but my eye has also been caught by a couple of establishments closer to my accommodation. Salon Pankow at Muhlenstrasse 67, and Rheinsberger 78. I can't find any references to them using the search facility. Does anyone here have any knowledge of either establishment? Or can recommend anywhere else in that quarter that features young (18-20) slim ladies?

Rocketboy0
11-16-11, 11:59
i will be arriving in berlin next week (wednesday 23rd) and staying 7 days in the prenzlauer berg area.

while there i certainly hope to visit artemis, but my eye has also been caught by a couple of establishments closer to my accommodation. salon pankow at muhlenstrasse 67, and rheinsberger 78. i can't find any references to them using the search facility. does anyone here have any knowledge of either establishment? or can recommend anywhere else in that quarter that features young (18-20) slim ladies?no idea. after a little digging, found the links (it helps if you post them so we can speed up our dicktective work). prices ok, but they seem small and nothing special. angus? having gone on numerous ost safaris, while once in a blue moon you might find something nice, it just isn't worth it imho. the action is really mostly west, and prices within 20 eur at eg liberty, kd, a little more elsewhere, but odds simply much higher and choices more numerous. grab a bvg day pass and you can shoot all over the place (discussed ad nausem here and angus blog. not such a long haul from prenz berg to some central jump point like charlottenburg / savignyplatz, and you can always then end up at artemis.

Angus Magee
11-16-11, 13:08
no idea. after a little digging, found the links (it helps if you post them so we can speed up our dicktective work). prices ok, but they seem small and nothing special. angus?in fact there was a fairly recent review, i think of sara, bei rheinsberger 78. do an advanced search or just scroll back. i can not be more than 10 or maybe 15 pages back. for searched it would always help a great deal if people included in the title the name of the girl and the name of the bordello, separated by a space. this way the search function can find it easily and display the report. another thing we could all start doing is including the telephone number for the bordello in the report. this makes it really easy for the search function to find and display.

rheinsberger generally gets good reviews on the german forum. it is a smal place with what seems a motivated crew of ladies.

salon pankow is the a different story. while i myself have been tempted buy what always seems a slutty bevy of ladies, the reviews are almost universally disappointing. the ladies are said to be very unmotivated to do anything to make you feel good. most reviews i have read say that they will never return. but you could alway be the exception or at least take one for the team. it would not cost you much.

links.

http://rheinsberger78.de/index.html

017678653017.

http://www.salonpankow.de/index.html

03061748323.

as for other establishments try looking on the berlin map.

http://karte.berlin-platz.de/?amenity=nightclub,massage,brothel



a very handy resource.

am

Montidear
11-16-11, 17:55
Hi Friends,

I want to know any good cheap and best brothel in berlin. I can shell at max 100-200 EURO. I have money but want to take first experience of brothe

Montidear
11-16-11, 17:56
Any cheap hotels in berlin and address of brothel from where girl can come to hotel. Are all hotel allow to call pros.

Rocketboy0
11-16-11, 21:23
Hi Friends, I want to know any good cheap and best brothel in berlin. I can shell at max 100-200 EURO. I have money but want to take first experience of brotheWell, ah, um, er, ah.read this here Forum. It's all here, or at http://www.angusmagee.com/?cat=62

You might actually start there is it is summarized well by das Dude. See the section "The Berlin Scene" which amazingly enough, describes the scene in none other than Berlin.

You will have to decide for yourself what is cheap and best, and whether private apartment bordellos or Artemis suits your desires and budget.

The apartment bordello webpages have photos of who is there at the moment (sort of).

The Forum here, and at the Artemis thread has the latest blow by blow :cool: descriptions from our crack (ed out) field teams. But you have to do your own homework.

Bobo.fr
11-16-11, 22:03
Hello,

Is anybody watching on the TV-channel "ARTE" the fiction "I'm Angesicht des Verbrechens" (http://www.arte.tv/de/3155414.html )?

There was the club "King George" in the first episode : was it the true "King George"?

The AF
11-16-11, 22:21
In the towering shadow of Artemis, just up and opposite the Hallensee S-Bahn stop, lies the often overlooked Salon Prestige. I recently partook of the services of Lilly (so so, nothing special) , and Sventlana who is something special. Slovinian. 23, killer body, full naturals thin, very slow and gentle, and very recommended. Works 3 X p week, mostly days sort of 12-1600.

No pics on the website.

http://salon-prestige-berlin.de/ladies.html

But a real looker. DFK, DATY, lots of positions, and she can suck a golf ball (tenderly) through a garden hose, as Willy Nelson once said. 120 EUR for 45 roughly minutes (things are a little loose there-more like an hour really).Indeed Prestige is one of the top places in town (sameas Liberty which is run by the same Mamasan). Every other week / month a true gem can be found for a reasonable rate! Actually, I myself would love to have gone to Prestige about a month ago to visit and try out beautiful Anna-Romi (a very sexy Russian Blonde). But only recently I found out that she is not working there anymore!

Anyone has any idea about her whereabouts?

Thanks and Best wishes,

AF

Angus Magee
11-16-11, 22:55
Indeed Prestige is one of the top places in town (sameas Liberty which is run by the same Mamasan). Every other week / month a true gem can be found for a reasonable rate! Actually, I myself would love to have gone to Prestige about a month ago to visit and try out beautiful Anna-Romi (a very sexy Russian Blonde). But only recently I found out that she is not working there anymore!

Anyone has any idea about her whereabouts?

Thanks and Best wishes,

AFRomy was a big fave of mine a couple of years back. She has worked at Liberty for a number of years (she is not 19 but a great lady none the less, oh, and she is Polish, not Russian) and went to work at SP a month or so back. Now she is back at Liberty under the name Romy.

http://www.libertyberlin.de/romy.html

I highly recommend this girl. She is a real dirty girl if you press her buttons just right.

AM

Jimmy44
11-17-11, 00:30
Hi there!

Thanks, Angus, for your answer before to my question. I would like to ask some more questions to all of you: I'm looking for beautiful girls with girlfriend experience and good condom blowjob (without teeth).

Is Anna-Romi / Romy in Liberty like that?

About Liberty in general: do you recommend in my case as well just to go there and then to watch the "parade" of the girls and then just to decide by the feeling? Are there girls as beautiful as Annabel at Kamilla Dee (I just know her pictures)?

About Annabel at Kamilla Dee: On the pictures she seems to be perfect to me. I like especially the way she looks like on the third picture of her on the website of Kamilla Dee. Is she really so beautiful like on the pictures?

About Tomsen / Bundesallee 128: Are the faces of Nataly, Gina and Leonie "very beautiful","beautiful" or just kind of "average"?

And what about girlfriend experience and good CBJ at L'amour in Charlottenburg (Quedlinburger Straße?) and what about La Dolce Vita 1 and 2?

I hope it's okay asking so many questions. Thank you very much.

Jimmy44
11-17-11, 01:42
Hi there!

I have one more question about Liberty: how discreet is the entrance? Is there a label for the Liberty on the door? Are the stairs only going to Liberty? Are there other companies as well? Do you (sometimes) meet other guests?

Thanks a lot.

Angus Magee
11-17-11, 07:55
Hi Jimmy,

Read the thread. There are many answers to many questions and some pretty specific descriptions on the various bordellos, how to get there, what the entrence is like etc.

Oh and you might try reading my blog.

http://www.angusmagee.com/

These questions are all pretty subjective. The only way to really find out is to get out there and explore.

AM

Rocketboy0
11-17-11, 07:59
: I'm looking for beautiful girls with girlfriend experience and good condom blowjob (without teeth).

Is Anna-Romi / Romy in Liberty like that? About Liberty in general: do you recommend in my case as well just to go there and then to watch the "parade" of the girls and then just to decide by the feeling? I hope it's okay asking so many questions. Thank you very much.Jimmy. It is very difficult to find beautiful girls without teeth. The girls you mention all have teeth. Also, I have never had a good blowjob with teeth, so I think the good ones just kind of retract them. (This is one reason I would never try a blowjob with the alien, in the movie Alien ). But as many here find good blowjobs all the time, perhaps it is not such an issue? :D

Anyway, all your questions are just very subjective and you will just have to go to all and see and decide for yourself. Liberty's entrance is discrete so you can approach without alerting your fans and family. You could walk into the gay cruise shop first just next door to throw them off the scent.

Angus Magee
11-17-11, 09:22
....throw them off the scent.My trick is to always bring along a few empty soda bottles in a plastic bag. Then I can always say I was returning my empties to Aldi next door and got the wrong door.

AM

Kimino
11-17-11, 11:03
Hi there!

I have one more question about Liberty: how discreet is the entrance? Is there a label for the Liberty on the door? Are the stairs only going to Liberty? Are there other companies as well? Do you (sometimes) meet other guests?

Thanks a lot.I'll post my reports later on, but yesterday I visited Liberty. I already visited the place a couple of years ago.

Nice lineup, very nice place. The entrance is discrete but doesn't look nice, very suburbian. But who cares.

Cheaper than other places, altough the cheapest yesterday was VK. 1 hr with a nice Russian girl with BBBJ 120.

On the other hand, totally disappointed by KD. It's something probably only with auslanders or maybe just for Kimino but NO BBBJ there for me. Great lineup, but I left.

More on this later.

Kimino

Angus Magee
11-17-11, 11:29
On the other hand, totally disappointed by KD. It's something probably only with auslanders or maybe just for Kimino but NO BBBJ there for me. Great lineup, but I left.With regard KD and BBBJ. Every one should do themselves a favor and not even bother showing up at KD expecting this service. While it is true that one monger, well know to some of us, has reported that he received it, he is the only one I know. That is not quite true. I myself had one there once. But other than the fact that the BJ was uncovered I would have just as soon put my dick in a meat grinder. Worst BJ ever. The girl was new, young and inexperienced (sort of why I went to see her) and I am sure the BBBJ was a fluke.

And while we are on the subject of KD-despite a recent trollish implication that I am some how favored financially by this bordello I can assure you that I am not. Not that I have not tried to contact them with a proposal that they maybe advertise on my blog. But I was stonewalled at every turn and have no contact with them other than my using the services of their girls. To be perfectly truthful I have not even done that in the past couple of years. My liking of the place is simply that of all the Berlin bordellos I received consistently the over all best service and GFE here. But I always chose wisely and off the web page, making appointments (half hour at first) and making sure the girls knew that it was them I was here to see. I really do think this helps with the level of service one receives. Picking a girl out from a line up has a certain energy to me that is not as nice as telling a girl that you saw her pictures and just had to see her. It works for me, but I am fully aware that others have different criteria for a good session.

AM

Kimino
11-17-11, 16:13
After visiting Royal but leaving because the lineup wasn't great, Wednesday morning, around 12:00, I appeared for the third time (without ever making a session) at KD.

The previous visits made me leave because the lineup was mediocre, to be kind.

This time it was completely different, I was shown 4/5 very nice girls.

I choosed Natasha, tall, short blonde hair. At the least, Artemis average (talk about this concept later).

So the girls comes in after the parade and very gently asks me If I had any particular desire. Luckily, I answered in my usual manner at this, saying: "Well, nothing particular, could stay an hour, BJ wo condom."

At this point, the girl, still very gentle explains me that "she" doesn't do BBBJ and if this was a problem for me.

I wasn't in the mood of getting any BS and for me BBBJ is mandatory so I said that, yes it was a problem and If maybe she knew some other girls that would give that service.

She said that she would ask the other girls, went out of the room and after 2 min. The house lady came in.

She explained that all the girls there normally don't do BBBJ but that it's actually their choice.

Again she asked if this was a problem, I answered that It was and that I preferred leaving, and so I did.

So, I don't see how I could ever give the place another try. Meaning that KD is out of my list.

Walked out and 5 minutes after I was at VK.

Kimino

Kimino
11-17-11, 16:13
Arrived there around 12:20, this was my third visit, but never sessioned.

This time the lineup was great.

The parade was made up of 5/6 girls, all very nice. Pity the parade was made in a really small and hot room.

I took Alex, Russian, speaks absolutely no english, I find her very sexy.

1 Hr 100 euro, BBBJ extra 20 euro, no kissing on the mouth.

Didn't really care but I think this is great value for money.

http://www.vankampenberlin.de/alex.html

I was taken to a bathroom to take a shower, new slippers, abundance of towels. Offered something to drink.

I had a beautiful session with Alex, the fact that we couldn't communicate in any way if not sexually was strange and funny, I usually enjoy these strange situations.

I do recommend her and in general I liked the place so I'll be back for sure. Maybe following RB's suggestions about the timing.

Kimino

Kimino
11-17-11, 16:14
Visited Liberty with friend Charlie last night, as always great company!

As I said before the entrance to Liberty is not very nice and elegant, actually it's the total opposite. But as soon as you get inside you will appreciate the warmth of the place.

House lady very friendly, lineup kind of average. Meaning that at least 2 girls where nice and doable, the rest maybe not.

I choosed Claire after deciding with Charlie If we wanted to stay or go elsewhere. With Charlie we decided to take the girls for 45 minutes so to be in sync.

http://www.libertyberlin.de/claire.html

Once I got in the room I found out that Claire had an appointment later on and that she could only stay with me 30min.

No problem. 30min with BBBJ 80Euro.

Had great time, GFE type as opposed to Alex at VK which was more in the PSE area.

In our room was also a big Jacuzi, that we didn't use.

I recommend the girl but in general I will try the place again.

Kimino

Rocketboy0
11-17-11, 16:55
My trick is to always bring along a few empty soda bottles in a plastic bag. Then I can always say I was returning my empties to Aldi next door and got the wrong door.

AMOr you can say you were just exchanging some würstchen and got the right door. But with your cunning plan, how do you explain to the Libertiarians why you are carrying empty soda bottles around? To conserve your precious bodily fluids, Herr General?

There is also a doctor in the building, so you can say your are just having an exam, which in a way you are.

Now that Kimino has become the Liberty King, others can just follow him in, saying it's his fault, they were just following.

But it is very worrying to me that you too are being followed.

I for one will now be on the hunt for girls without teeth to get my first ever hummer gummer.

Angus Magee
11-17-11, 18:46
Hi Kimino.

One thing I do not understand. You say, ' I wasn't in the mood of [sic] getting any BS.... '. Yet almost everything that has ever been written about KD makes it clear that this is a house policy. How is this then BS on their part?

I know a friend of ours got himself blown 'ohne condom' but really has anything else ever led you to believe that it would be different?

As I said below, KD has provided me with the most GFE of any place in Berlin, excluding Artemis. But Artemis is. In my opinion, a special case and comparing the two places is really like comparing apples to oranges.

I think the reason for KD being exceptional is they very much support the girl's right to decide. So if I get a girl who kisses me at KD, she kisses me because she wants to kiss me, not because I paid her €20. So much sweeter, yet not guaranteed.

As I said, if BBBJ, or lack there of, is a deal killer for you don't bother with KD. To be honest I can imagine that half the girls at Artemis who provide BBBJ because the management insists as house policy, would probably do a better job if they were allowed to follow their own comfort level and use a condom when they wanted.

But most mongers would never put up with this so it is never going to happen is it.

AM

Jerrylee
11-17-11, 18:49
Sorry, I'm late with this report – but better late than never!

I have visited the LA FOLIE nightclub on a Friday night in September 2011. Arrived at 2200 h, rang the bell, entered, undressed myself, took a shower and took a seat at the bar. Ordered a mineral water.

About 14 ladies and maybe 7 gentlemen were present, in the next few minutes, more men and two or three additional girls came in. I would rate 4 to 5 girls as 'attractive', so I thought about which of the women I should choose.

I spotted a very attractive, sexy young blond girl, but there was no chance to approach her since she was in a close discussion with a guy who had invited her to a large bottle of champagne in a cooler.

In the course of the next minutes, several of the ladies came up to me, but I politely declined their services (' I have just arrived. ').

In the meantime, a slim well-built ash-blond lady had taken the seat next to me. Not your typical page 3 girl, but average looking. Like all the ladies in this club, she was topless. She wore only a tanga bottom, fishnet stockings and high heeled shoes. She presented herself as INDIRA from Romania. We had a friendly conversation, and she told me that she just arrived in Berlin and had stayed in Munich before.

A few minutes later, we started to caress, and her hand went under my towel to gently touch my cock. This went on for about half an hour, our petting became more and more intensive and I got a massive erection. Therefore I suggested to go to a Zimmer. She went to the bar entrance to get a room key and a towel.

Once in the room she really gave me a treat! It seems that she had some sympathy for me: We exchanged intensive French kisses, she allowed me to finger her pussy, we had fantastic sex – I'the call this a GFE in the best sense of the word.

After leaving the room I noticed that more male guests had arrived. The blond girl I mentioned before was still not free, and since I was fully satisfied with the encounter with INDIRA, I left the club to go to my hotel.

A pleasant surprise was the bill that I had to pay when I left: 90 Euro (15 Euro entrance fee plus 75 for the girl's service, my first drink was included).

Summary: I'the recommend this place, as there is a good chance on a pleasant evening. What I don't like: It seems that everybody here is a chain smoker, the air quality is horrible.

Charlie 123
11-17-11, 19:47
Hi.

Popped in with Kimino yesterday. There were 8 or 9 girls in the line-up. 3 of which I'd have been happy try out. I picked out Hungarian Monika:

http://www.libertyberlin.de/monika.html

An excellent session. Younf MILF body, heavy-breasted, natural, with just the perfect degree of 'swing' to them. Plain but attractive face, slim but not skinny, very friendly if a touch shy at first? Sexy young lady, we 'clicked' pretty well. No kissing (shame) , but a sensual encounter nonetheless. Would repeat and recommend.

Charlie

Kimino
11-17-11, 21:15
Hi Kimino.

One thing I do not understand. You say, ' I wasn't in the mood of [sic] getting any BS. '. Yet almost everything that has ever been written about KD makes it clear that this is a house policy. How is this then BS on their part?What does [sic] stand for?

If I was sure that KD was always covered BJ I would have never even tryed to get a girl there. Very simple.

I probably got it wrong but I didn't have the impression, for what I remember reading, that it was an absolute house rule.

Now that I know I won't loose other time on KD.

BTW, how can you say a girl kisses you because she really wants to and not because she wants to acquire or mantain a regular customer?

I also find stupid and sad the X euro stuff for kissing and I'm happy that this doesn't happen in Artemis. Some girl kiss, some few don't, some kiss some customers and don't kiss others.

Still, when a girl in an apartments has the "menu approach" and starts giving out the prices for everything, although I dislike I usually take the whole bundle and get out of the the thing.

Always remember that among the customers there's people that go with things like: "but if I take the 35 minutes and come very quickly without wasting time in changing positions can I come 3 times but not pay for the extra." so from the point of view of the girls, when they don't know the guy, I can understand this being very precise on any detail.

I totally disagree with your last point about the house rules in Artemis regarding BBBJ (if it really exists, never asked) but I respect your pov. If they where so concerned then maybe they would always try to use the cleaning tissues before doing a BBBJ, while only very few girls do it, at least to me.



Ciaoo.

Kimino

The AF
11-17-11, 21:21
Hi.

Popped in with Kimino yesterday. There were 8 or 9 girls in the line-up. 3 of which I'd have been happy try out. I picked out Hungarian Monika:

http://www.libertyberlin.de/monika.html

An excellent session. Younf MILF body, heavy-breasted, natural, with just the perfect degree of 'swing' to them. Plain but attractive face, slim but not skinny, very friendly if a touch shy at first? Sexy young lady, we 'clicked' pretty well. No kissing (shame) , but a sensual encounter nonetheless. Would repeat and recommend.

CharlieTalking so much about Liberty these days. Has anyone of you recent visitors spotted Alina (a sexy long-legged Blonde). Just from her appearance she is on my top list for the next visit. Same as Romy, of course! Thanks a million Angus for the very important insights!

Looking forward to a visit there soon, after my current cold is cured!

Best of Luck to all,

The AF

Kimino
11-17-11, 21:45
Hi Kimino.

One thing I do not understand. You say, ' I wasn't in the mood of [sic] getting any BS. '. Yet almost everything that has ever been written about KD makes it clear that this is a house policy. How is this then BS on their part?Angus, I reread your message and think there might be some misunderstanding on one point.

I'm not saying in any way that KD did something wrong or didn't give a professional service (for what I tryed) , I'm saying that in no way I would ever accept to have a covered BJ. I was totally disappointed and also very sorry for making the house lady and the girls loose their time, I apologized with the house lady and she did the same to me, so absolutely no problem with KD, it's just they don't provide what I'm looking for. Simple as that.

Hope it's clearer now.

Kimino

Angus Magee
11-17-11, 23:27
What does [sic] stand for?Oh that is Angus the editor, meaning it is an editing thing used when quoting someone who has made a grammatical or spelling error. It means 'intentionally so written' and shows that the quote appears as it has been written and is not corrected by the editor.


BTW, how can you say a girl kisses you because she really wants to and not because she wants to acquire or mantain a regular customer?

I don't really question it as long as the kissing is with enough feeling to make it believable. Hell, I don't even mind throwing the girl a 20 (assuming I am financially able) if she kisses with feeling. But my experience is that I might as well rip up the 20 as give it to the girl for all the feeling she puts into it. If she is just trying to maintain me as a regular and does a good job, it will probably work out for her.

AM

IM Punter
11-18-11, 00:06
This is my first post on ISG, * so I should introduce myself. *I am 50ish, live in a NE state in the boonies, miles away from any kind of SP action, *so I don't get to monger often although I did get to practice in Florida and Georgia a bit. Mostly though, I live vicariously by reading USASG and ISG posts. **I have posted on USASG before.

*

Last month I had the opportunity to travel to Berlin for a very short business trip. * Although my only free time there was expected to be a few hours, I spent a lot of time on ISG reading the posts in the Germany forum in the hopes of doing some hobbying. I weighed the alternatives of FKK vs. Brothel. * I had made up my mind to call one of the many brothels mentioned in this forum and then I found myself walking along to my hotel from the UBahn station on Kurfurstenstrasse. * It was about 9pm, and I found myself in a street type of smorgasbord of street girls. * There they were, spread out along K'strasse between the U-bahn and Genthiner Str. * Some scragglies were standing on the road trying to flag down cars and people, others were more discreet. I'the guess ages ranged from 20 to 40. * Although not planning to go street, the other brain started to take over.

*

I walked around a couple of blocks and didn't really see any more until I came back down Genthiner toward K'strasse, where I saw two. One was a rather large black girl, and the other was a somewhat petite brunette very discreetly located at the corner of one of the buildings on the east side of Genthiner. She looked around 25 ish, and very cute so I approached her. * I should mention by this time, the little brain was in full control. * She quoted 30 Euros for BJ. 40 for FS or 50 for half / half. * As neither of us had a place or a car, she volunteered a 'safe, quiet spot near by' and *I opted for the BJ. * As we walked over to the 'safe place', we talked a bit as she hooked her arms around mine (actually really quite nice). * She made it very clear that everything (inc. BJ) is covered. * She was german, but spoke passable English. She didn't appear to be a druggie, but you never know. * We got to the 'place', a wooded part of a parking lot just on the corner of Kurfen'strasse and Genthiner. * It didn't look very appealing, strewn with garbage, empty water bottles, condoms and who know what else. * Anyway, standing up, I gave her access to my American wurst. * After a few minutes it became obvious that things weren't going to work (standing up in the cold air doesn't really do it for me) so she upselled me to the half and half. * Again, it would have to be standing up (in my case anyway, for her it was bending over hanging on to a tree). * Again it didn't work for me, not for the lack of her trying. * As she was really nice and somewhat cute, I thanked her for trying and wished her a good night. *

*

As I was walking back to my hotel, I cursed myself for staying in a hotel with my colleagues where they might see me bringing a street girl. * Back at the hotel, I decided it was too late to get out to a brothel as I had an early flight home the next day. * So, success in finding a girl. Not very successful in the act itself or finding a conducive venue. * Perhaps street really isn't for me.

*

One thing for sure, I'the like to go back to Germany. They have a real practical outlook on sex, as opposed to the dark ages back here in the US.

Bobo.fr
11-18-11, 00:41
. Etc.

On the other hand, totally disappointed by KD. It's something probably only with auslanders or maybe just for Kimino but NO BBBJ there for me. Great lineup, but I left.

Etc.

KiminoHello, Kimino,

Without any malice, I realized that finally you are probably a "newbie" of the Berlin's thread : I think that the fact that "covered" BJ is a rule in KD is well known by readers of this Berlin's thread.

I remember that, in the past, there was a page of KD's website where was mentionned explicitely this rule : I can not find this page anymore.

The first time I looked for a Berliner bordello (years ago) , this rule motivated to visit KD and KD became my first choice since.

Actually, I don't need BBBJ at all and like a lot passionnate deep kisses and to imagine that the ladies had a CIM in their previous meeting is not really encouraging : this KD's rule limits the risk of CIM.

However, in life, most of rules may have sometimes some exceptions!

Kimino
11-18-11, 01:52
Hello, Kimino,

Without any malice, I realized that finally you are probably a "newbie" of the Berlin's thread : I think that the fact that "covered" BJ is a rule in KD is well known by readers of this Berlin's thread.

I remember that, in the past, there was a page of KD's website where was mentionned explicitely this rule : I can not find this page anymore.Actually, I absolutely am a newbie in the Berlin thread and to the Berlin extra-Artemis scene in general. Although I visited at least once all the Bordellos that I feel being the big ones.

Should also be noted that I simply forget stuff very quickly, at least the apparently non important things.

I perfectly remember the talks about the KD rule but for some reason I thoughit was an old story that had changed, a bit like the mith of Vk not being auslander friendly or something. Otherwise I would have never passed by 3 times to see If I could find a decent parade at KD.

Probably the fact that in none of the other apartments I visited this house rule came up, took me to just forget about the issue.

Think I'll remember it after all this writing.

Kimino

Gergiev
11-18-11, 04:49
But I always chose wisely and off the web page, making appointments (half hour at first) and making sure the girls knew that it was them I was here to see. I really do think this helps with the level of service one receives. Picking a girl out from a line up has a certain energy to me that is not as nice as telling a girl that you saw her pictures and just had to see her. It works for me, but I am fully aware that others have different criteria for a good session.Dittto for me.

Find that it pays to dedicate a little time in the exchange of small talk before the main event to let the lady know that having carefully perused the photos on the site, there really was no contest as to which one to choose.

Most Schmetterlingen (ladies) about their business will calculate that this is a Kunde (customer) worth cultivating with the prospect of repeat business in mind.

VG

Angus Magee
11-18-11, 12:22
As I was walking back to my hotel, I cursed myself for staying in a hotel with my colleagues where they might see me bringing a street girl. * Back at the hotel, I decided it was too late to get out to a brothel as I had an early flight home the next day. * So, success in finding a girl. Not very successful in the act itself or finding a conducive venue. * Perhaps street really isn't for me.Thanks for the street report, a slight cautionary tale. Look at the bright side that this whole adventure did not cost you very much at all. Next time why not visit one of the excellent and comfortable bordellos Berlin has to offer.

AM

Severin Carl
11-18-11, 13:01
Sometimes the problem girls may have with BBBJ and CIM is based on the quite understandable but almost unfounded fear of infection with Aids or hepatitis. I am not a MD, but my brother is. I told him about the problem and here is what he said.

With healthy people the risk to get infected by oral-sex is very, very small. The statistic rate is about 1 to 86. 000 (WHO). This is because the saliva of healthy people normally provides a desinfection-impact, as you can see with animals when they try to lick a wound. The Aids- as the hepatitis-virus is so weak that our saliva will kill

Him at ounce. And sperm which gets into the stomach will be decomposed immediately by our gastric-acid.

BUT : If the oral-cavity of the girl is wounded the danger of infection is high, because the virus then may get into the blood-circuit. BBBJ without ejaculation is dangerous only if there are wounds in the mouth of the girl and on the penis.

I think that girls who refuse BBBJ and CIM don't have medical but psychic reasons. And the simple aspect of somemongerrs allready makes the KD

Severin Carl
11-18-11, 13:05
Makes the KD-rules very understandable. As for me : Sometimes I like to CIM, so I try to avoid places where this is generally proscribed. Sorry, my english is still very poor. Have a nice time : SC

IM Punter
11-19-11, 05:00
Thanks for the street report, a slight cautionary tale. Look at the bright side that this whole adventure did not cost you very much at all. Next time why not visit one of the excellent and comfortable bordellos Berlin has to offer.

AMThanks. I'd like to try a bordello next time, kind of curious as to how it works though and what kind of variety I might find. Also I kind of like the fantasy that the lady isn't a seasoned working girl, more of an occasional part timer, and I have the stereotype of a worn tired out SP as the kind of woman working in a bordello. Of course, not having been in one I am probably completely wrong.

BTW sorry about the asterisks in my previous post. Don't know why my browser put those in.

Kimino
11-19-11, 11:42
BTW sorry about the asterisks in my previous post. Don't know why my browser put those in.It happens to me when I write a report on the ipad using notes and then I copy / paste in the browser (safari).

A real pain.

Ciao

Angus Magee
11-19-11, 11:55
Thanks. I'd like to try a bordello next time, kind of curious as to how it works though and what kind of variety I might find. Also I kind of like the fantasy that the lady isn't a seasoned working girl, more of an occasional part timer, and I have the stereotype of a worn tired out SP as the kind of woman working in a bordello. Of course, not having been in one I am probably completely wrong.Finding a newbie is a common fantasy. Many girls will advertise (or be advertised) as beginners. In my opinion most of it is bunk. The best to hope for is the part timer and they do exist, just takes a lot of research and a measure of luck to find one.

Interesting that with that fantasy you chose the street. This is the last place I would look. Even if she is a relative beginner, girls gain experience fast on the street and become hard. And some girls do a sort of circuit moving from city to city to stay "fresh" in the eyes of the punters. It is surprising to me just how many punter do prefer to do their mongering on the streets here in Berlin.

AM

Toxical
11-19-11, 12:46
In fact there was a fairly recent review, I think of Sara, bei Rheinsberger 78. Do an advanced search or just scroll back. I can not be more than 10 or maybe 15 pages back. For searched it would always help a great deal if people included in the title the name of the girl and the name of the bordello, separated by a space. This way the search function can find it easily and display the report. Another thing we could all start doing is including the telephone number for the bordello in the report. This makes it really easy for the search function to find and display.

Rheinsberger generally gets good reviews on the German forum. It is a smal place with what seems a motivated crew of ladies.

Salon Pankow is the a different story. While I myself have been tempted buy what always seems a slutty bevy of ladies, the reviews are almost universally disappointing. The ladies are said to be very unmotivated to do anything to make you feel good. Most reviews I have read say that they will never return. But you could alway be the exception or at least take one for the team. It would not cost you much.

Links.

http://rheinsberger78.de/index.html

017678653017.

http://www.salonpankow.de/index.html

03061748323.

As for other establishments try looking on the Berlin map.

http://karte.berlin-platz.de/?amenity=nightclub,massage,brothel

A very handy resource.

AMMany thanks for the advice, stupid of me not to have included the links myself, sorry.

I searched and found the earlier posts on here and Rheinsberg78, which is walking distance from where I'll be staying, looks a pretty good prospect (especially Sara who I had noted on their website). Hopefully I'll get the opportunity to try out a couple of other establishments as well.

WreckDiver
11-19-11, 13:14
I'm new to this community but have mongered before, as many before my I have gained useful information on this board and would like to contribute. I was looking for a place to spend new years eve, as all FKK are closed on that day, and thanks to Angus (the Berlin legend) got the tip that King George and Caligula are open on that day which by the way they are. I like to dedicate this first major post to you guys that contribute to this forum!

On a personal note I'm in my lower thirties but look in my upper twenties, as for outward appearance tall and dark (African which is helpful) and slim. I'm just mentioning this because outwards appearances affect the quality of service and level of tips involved.

Recap of Berlin trip Saturday 12th of November landed around 16. 00 and had a very short trip to my hotel thanks to German efficiency and good public transport. It less then an hour from touch down to me flopping on the bed in my hotel room.

After a shower, a nap and a sandwich I waited for the changing of the shifts at 20. 00 and headed for Caligula. I didn't quite know what to expect my previous mongering activities in the city have been conducted at Artemis or La Foile I had no idea of how the Caligula girls would look like in comparison but I enjoy a good hunt. Well first with the practicalities:

Entry: eur 99 everything is included I. E. Sex and drinks

Food: none is served on the premises but if you talk to the coat room attendant he will let you step outside for 45 min. One has around 4 choices pizza / generic Italian across the street, kebab down the street, Tapas / generic Spanish parallel to the kebab place and Greek further down from the kebab place. A word of advice if you go for the high carbohydrate meal please note that Caligula doesn't have any relax are as in the FKK so you have to stand or sit on a bar stool until you are ready for the next round.

Local: well the easiest way of describing Caligula is a strip bar, one thing to note is that it is rather small total area of the main room is ca: 70 m2. There are 6 small rooms on the left of the main room that just fit a 120 cm bed plus, a basin, tree pillows and if lucky a towel that the girl puts down on the bed and NO SHOWERS. To the right just the same set up but worst because the room are closer to the speakers so it makes it difficult to concentrate.

Drinks: the bar is basic full service I. E. None of the premium brands but they are fully equipped, just one note of caution I noticed that on more then one occasion customers were escorted out because they were to drunk. Part of the business plan get in get them drunk get them out.

Now to the girls they are about 12-14 girls of mixed nationalities none exotic Polish, Romanian, German / Turkish and Bulgarian. Most of them are 5-6 and two are 8. The sex is short time around 20 min-30 min max with regular positions they also provide you with an add on service table in the room. CIM eur 10, BBBJ eur 10 (wash first) and anal eur 25. None did anal but most did the first two. IMPORTANT this is not a GFE establishment. The girls do all the regular tricks to work as little as possible so use your head to get a good session out of the experience.

My personal experience was quite enjoyable I didn't drink and don't smoke which helped in keeping my head and body in check. All in all I would repeat if I was out to keep my budget in check. But not for New years or any other major holidays its simply to difficult to spend a longer period than 3 hours here. I almost forgot they are not great dancers.

Plus: value for money and opening hours.

Minus: hygiene and small rooms and no GFE.

Wreckdiver

Rocketboy0
11-19-11, 19:06
It happens to me when I write a report on the ipad using notes and then I copy / paste in the browser (safari).

A real pain. CiaoI feel your typing pain and so I contacted Apple about this. Great news for your Fanbois mongers. 2 special monger friendly models are in development: First, a foldable tablet that splits into two digital labial sections with a hole, and has a liquid touch screen, called the I-Pussy. And for you rimmers in zimmers, the I-Pository, a small model you can shove up your butt, can be set to vibrate only, and which can take real time video. Should also be a great polyp detector as well.

Razor
11-19-11, 20:54
Made a couple days visit to this place, first the previous Saturday (11-12-11). There were 8 girls, some left earlier, but were replaced by others two late comers. The best girl of the day was Yvonne.

Check the address.

http://www.erlebniswohnung.de

The setting is the typical gang bang action in two rooms, the other is the relax room, where the food & drinks were served. The action took almost none stop from 3 PM to 01 AM, I had the change to do Yvonne twice and tried 4 of the other girls also. Lexa, was another beauty who I did twice also. For moments, It was almost impossible to circulate in that area with 30 or 40 fellow mongers, well I really enjoyed.

My second visit was on Monday (11-14-11) , less people and less girls also, just 5, but Ivonne was there again, so as soon I saw her, I was fast behind her plugging her hole, she finished me with an amusing BBBJ,

Another girl I tried this day was Annike, older, great body, just not attractive face, but she made for her attitude, BBBJ all the time you want, the other holes all the time you want also,

What a girl, still I can heard her screams. Planning to visit other places, but IMHO, if you're in the public action, you must check this place out. Beautiful girls in average, plus continuous action.

Razor reports from Berlin

IM Punter
11-19-11, 23:12
Finding a newbie is a common fantasy. Many girls will advertise (or be advertised) as beginners. In my opinion most of it is bunk. The best to hope for is the part timer and they do exist, just takes a lot of research and a measure of luck to find one.

Interesting that with that fantasy you chose the street. This is the last place I would look. Even if she is a relative beginner, girls gain experience fast on the street and become hard. And some girls do a sort of circuit moving from city to city to stay "fresh" in the eyes of the punters. It is surprising to me just how many punter do prefer to do their mongering on the streets here in Berlin.

AMI wasn't planning on a street girl but when I saw the variety and then a girl who had the 'girl next door' lo.

IM Punter
11-19-11, 23:15
Finding a newbie is a common fantasy. Many girls will advertise (or be advertised) as beginners. In my opinion most of it is bunk. The best to hope for is the part timer and they do exist, just takes a lot of research and a measure of luck to find one.

Interesting that with that fantasy you chose the street. This is the last place I would look. Even if she is a relative beginner, girls gain experience fast on the street and become hard. And some girls do a sort of circuit moving from city to city to stay "fresh" in the eyes of the punters. It is surprising to me just how many punter do prefer to do their mongering on the streets here in Berlin.

AMI wasn't planning on a street girl but when I saw the variety and then a girl who had the 'girl next door' look I couldn't resist. I guess what's appealing about the street is you can pick and choose without the pressure of being in a bordello.

Of course the pressure comes from the wrong brain which takes over at certain times.

Dealdo
11-22-11, 04:50
I wasn't planning on a street girl but when I saw the variety and then a girl who had the 'girl next door' look I couldn't resist. I guess what's appealing about the street is you can pick and choose without the pressure of being in a bordello.

Of course the pressure comes from the wrong brain which takes over at certain times.Actualy, Punter's is a very good report. I bet many of our friends will try those avenues just for the feeling of the old school hunting.

I think I would act the same if in my way I found some decent looking SWs. My small head has more control over me than my big one. = (

Thanks a lot for sharing, but I'm agreed whit the rest, next time save your energy for the prives or the FFKs. Is something all monger has to experience at least ones if the budget reaches there.

Rocketboy0
11-23-11, 12:36
Hooked up with Vanessa, Ukranian girl, pretty and petite. Pictures make her appear baby-fattish but actually, she's very well proportioned, with lovely naturals.

Very tender, soft, slow, session, would repeat and recommend. Prestige pulling in some good new recruits. She is a fragile young thing so be nice.

Angus Magee
11-23-11, 13:37
Hooked up with Vanessa, Ukranian girl, pretty and petite. Pictures make her appear baby-fattish but actually, she's very well proportioned, with lovely naturals.

Very tender, soft, slow, session, would repeat and recommend. Prestige pulling in some good new recruits. She is a fragile young thing so be nice.This picture inparticular is worth the price of admission.

http://salon-prestige-berlin.de/vanessa1/img/IMG_5936.JPG

I hope that you put them to good use. ;)

Thanks for the report RB.

AM

Rocketboy0
11-23-11, 14:42
This picture in particular is worth the price of admission.

http://salon-prestige-berlin.de/vanessa1/img/IMG_5936.JPG

I hope that you put them to good use. Thanks for the report RB. AMLife is all about juggling priorities.

Whadayagonnado?

Amaso
11-23-11, 23:47
Good Evening to everyone,

There's anyone knows if this agency is reliable, I'm interesting to book Amorouse or Coco.

Thank you

Joand
11-28-11, 22:05
I've never been to Berlin but it feels fresh, I'm going to try it. I just wonder how likely it is to get STDs in Berlin? What you see is self-evident as to avoid, like if it's green and smells bad. There goes my limit.

1. If you visit brothels.

2. Independent private model.

3. Street Hooker.

Joand

Rocketboy0
11-29-11, 00:35
I've never been to Berlin but it feels fresh, I'm going to try it. I just wonder how likely it is to get STDs in Berlin? What you see is self-evident as to avoid, like if it's green and smells bad. There goes my limit.

1. If you visit brothels.

2. Independent private model.

3. Street Hooker.

JoandJ-will answer here vs a PM. Your question is a little odd, but I will assume it is genuine and not a little trolling. Whether Berlin is as "fresh" (as you say it feels) - well who knows? Philosophy not my strength.

There is rather obviously always a risk, especially with more unprotected acts. Given the options you listed, the odds more or less increase as you go down your list. Artemis has a doctor, who tests all on some sort of regular basis. While this is better than nothing, the details are not well known, various diseases have different incubation periods, etc. There are stories of this or that outbreak on the forum, mostly unsubstantiated. The better brothels keep an eye on such things. Beyond these establishments, you are increasingly pushing the envelope, though it obviously depends on each individual. It also depends on you as for all we know, you could be a source. Bareback blow jobs carry more risk than covered, and unprotected bunga bunga-well we don't really need to go into those well known risks. Nothing risk free, it all depends. Just be careful. But surely you know all this? I would say that Artemis and the better brothels in Berlin seem clean and well run, especially when compared to those elsewhere. Given the millions of people exchanging fluids there, the odds seem pretty low. But then again, I think clean thoughts.

One thing you could do is prove your self worthy of being accompanied as wingman by our resident hygenist, Norjan, who surely has a good, cautious eye for such things.

Brownangel954
12-01-11, 23:43
I've already reported on my visit to l'Amour.

On the same trip, I visited Anni Porsche (phone 0178 4008006, web.

http://www.anni-porsche.de

) on a Monday morning. This is a naturist house with private sex parties. On arrival you pay €99 and a birthday-suited lady (one of the proprietors) directs you to the changing area where you leave your clothes in a shared locker and place your valuables in a transparent bag which you hand in at the bar for safe keeping. You then pick up a towel and take a shower. At the bar (which is in the hallway) tea and other refreshments are served. There are 2 main rooms. In the lounge there are snacks and people chat. The other room is the action room where 2 or 3 ladies played with about 6 men in different areas of the room. I found a very friendly atmosphere and I felt welcome despite my less than fluent German. This is really a place for friends rather than mongers and German is naturally the first language. Everything is done with respect and by permission. You ask first and honour the person's response. I was informed that Tina speaks English so I joined her company. She was welcoming and allowed me to touch her in most places but she does not allow fingering of her pussy. She did allow me inside her. It so happened on the day that I could not come. I think this was due to the presence of other men. However, I still had a good time.

In summary, this venue is for those who have a naturist streak and are respectful.

Tonio1
12-07-11, 17:22
@StefanP: Your first report sounds like an advertisement.


at 150E / 1st hour.The price is neither cheap for Berlin nor the girls look very attracting IMHO. I suggest you tone down your language a bit. If you are interested in better deals rtff a bit and at Berlinintim, Kaufmich et al you will find similar girls for 80-120 Euros / 1st hour.

Angus Magee
12-07-11, 18:18
.the best and most reliable escort service in Berlin.I have to say I am just a wee bit suspicious of the post. Nothing personal if you are legit but understand that with a posting history of "1" (at the time of this writing) about a mid range agency that looks pretty average to me, I would want some back up posts before I called them.

As Tonio mentions there really are better options in Berlin for girls of this caliber.

AM

Kimino
12-07-11, 20:25
Anyone visited Monrouge recently and know if these girls are back?

Kimino

Suller Joe
12-07-11, 20:43
I will be in Berlin after Christmas, so I am trying to understand the scene.

Can someone please name the top 3 clubs in Berlin, having a large selection of ladies and nice rooms.

I will be time-constrained, so I do not want to travel to many places looking for some fun. I hope to go to one or two main clubs this time. Next trip I'll have more time to spot even individual providers.

Angus Magee
12-07-11, 21:09
I will be in Berlin after Christmas, so I am trying to understand the scene.

Can someone please name the top 3 clubs in Berlin, having a large selection of ladies and nice rooms.

I will be time-constrained, so I do not want to travel to many places looking for some fun. I hope to go to one or two main clubs this time. Next trip I'll have more time to spot even individual providers.Big clubs? Artemis, Artemis and then there is Artemis.

AM

Rocketboy0
12-07-11, 21:57
I will be in Berlin after Christmas, so I am trying to understand the scene.

Can someone please name the top 3 clubs in Berlin, having a large selection of ladies and nice rooms.

I will be time-constrained, so I do not want to travel to many places looking for some fun. I hope to go to one or two main clubs this time. Next trip I'll have more time to spot even individual providers.

Suller. I assure you the scene after Christmas is similar to the scene before Christmas, but who am I to quibble. And surely we too are time constrained, having to work occasionally rather than keep all you mongers up to date on the belles du jour. And with "class"-assume you mean upper class dirty slags and nice girls vs plebie proli dirty slags as is currently the rage on the Artemis forum. Anyway, the top 3 clubs in my book would be.

Kamilla Dee.
Royal.
Van Kampen.

For the quality and number of possibilities. However, Salon Prestige (good and getter gooder) and Mon Rouge (though much fewer choices) would be very close behind.

But, you will need to most def call ahead to verify who is around on a given day. And just about everywhere will be leaner through early Jan as most good ones take off.

Angus (das Dude) Magee is right when he sayeth Artemis is the biggest by far. But it too will be leaner thru early.mid Jan. He likes these slower chill periods but the choices are reduced.

The 3 clubs mentioned above, and actually the other 2 are all fairly close together, and you really could do a quick tour to get a feel for what's up, then go to Artemis to compare. The difference being you will have to pay the 80 EUR up front to get a look in Artemis, while the others offer the free poon parade. All bordellos discussed ad nauseum here, on the Artemis forum, and the Angus M blog. Check out the websites, see who strikes your fancy (and then find out when she gets back from Thailand or Las Vegas, where many flee from the Berlin winter.). As always YMMV and "best" a taste thing. Just report back to fertilize the Forum.

Husseine57
12-08-11, 11:03
I am going to be in Berlin in early 2012.

I am after a partytreff in Berlin. What is important to me is having sex in the same room with others. Sort of voyeurism. Some where like partytreff Bremen.

Can any one help me with this?

Brownangel954
12-09-11, 01:24
I am going to be in Berlin in early 2012.

I am after a partytreff in Berlin. What is important to me is having sex in the same room with others. Sort of voyeurism. Some where like partytreff Bremen.

Can any one help me with this?See my post below: My recent visit to Berlin. Part 2. Anni Porsche.

PS. I think there was a special rate of 75 euro.

Husseine57
12-09-11, 07:06
See my post below: My recent visit to Berlin. Part 2. Anni Porsche.

PS. I think there was a special rate of 75 euro.Thanks, but I'm after somewhere with hired prostitutes who have to serve customers not decide who they want to be with.

Angus Magee
12-09-11, 11:51
I am going to be in Berlin in early 2012.

I am after a partytreff in Berlin. What is important to me is having sex in the same room with others. Sort of voyeurism. Some where like partytreff Bremen.

Can any one help me with this?You might also check out Insomnia or Erlebniswohnung.

http://www.insomnia-berlin.de/

http://www.erlebniswohnung.de/

I have not been to either (not my scene) but both have been discussed further back in this thread.

AM

John Corey
12-09-11, 13:26
Anyone visited Monrouge recently and know if these girls are back?

KiminoI was in Berlin last week Julia is not back and the madam does not know when she is planning to be back.

Angus Magee
12-09-11, 13:55
I was in Berlin last week Julia is not back and the madam does not know when she is planning to be back.In my past experience with MR this is the one area where they could really use improvement. Girls who are away for months and months are simply left up on the web site, I guess to bring in us punters. In their defence though it might be noted that there are often some real beauties who are never on the web site working. In the end MR is a bordello one really needs to drop by and see in person who is there. The web site is merely to give an idea of the type and quality of girls to expect.

AM

Stefan39
12-09-11, 19:05
Hi, my name is Stefan and recently camed from virginia, USA.

I just want to recomand a nice club. The name is tantra in kaiserslautern. One of my best friends recomand me to go and I can say I didn't regret it. Ok. Maybe a little bit. The club is nice, small. Discret and it has around 12-15 girls every day. Most of them are roumanien but very friendly and funny. Good food. Nice atmosphere but.

My first girl was SHAKIRA. From tunis great body, really great body but to much talking. I think we staid about 20 min. Talking and a lot of questions. I thought she's the hell f. Be. I. But what the hell. I must try her on. Just let me say. Fuck. A big dissapointment. She didn't even let me touch her on the breasts. She's very fast and in max 15 min your out from the room.

Next girl. MAIA. Bulgarien. Full of tattoos but really crazy in the good way. Great service and nothig to complain.

So who likes the small clubs and discret. Its a really nice place to spend your free time.

See ya

Angus Magee
12-09-11, 19:26
I will be in Berlin after Christmas, so I am trying to understand the scene.

Can someone please name the top 3 clubs in Berlin, having a large selection of ladies and nice rooms.

I will be time-constrained, so I do not want to travel to many places looking for some fun. I hope to go to one or two main clubs this time. Next trip I'll have more time to spot even individual providers.You could give this place a whirl.

http://club-valentino.de/category/girls/

No reports on it but we could use one from someone who wants to explore.

AM

Rocketboy0
12-09-11, 22:20
Hi, my name is Stefan and recently camed from virginia, USA.

I just want to recomand a nice club. The name is tantra in kaiserslautern. One of my best friends recomand me to go and I can say I didn't regret it. Ok. Maybe a little bit. The club is nice, small. Discret and it has around 12-15 girls every day. Most of them are roumanien but very friendly and funny. Good food. Nice atmosphere but.

My first girl was SHAKIRA. From tunis great body, really great body but to much talking. I think we staid about 20 min. Talking and a lot of questions. I thought she's the hell f. Be. I. But what the hell. I must try her on. Just let me say. Fuck. A big dissapointment. She didn't even let my#alle touch her on the breasts. She's very fast and in max 15 min your out from the room.

Next girl. MAIA. Bulgarien. Full of tattoos but really crazy in the good way. Great service and nothig to complain.

So who likes the small clubs and discret. Its a really nice place to spend your free time.

See yaWell y'all, as someone who once lived in the proud state of Virginia (from land of virgin soil, if not female inhabitants) , I would have to most respectfully say, in a Jeffersonian way, that this here comment looks more than a mite suspicious. While many of us Southern gentlemen do have some linguistic foibles, they are surely far less than those on display here. So while Stefan (a southern name if you are from say southern Eastern Europa) might have come from Virginia, it is doubtful he is a son of Virginia. And the rest, well it just smacks of just a little too subtle salesmanship, as in perish the thought, our above reporter is somehow connected to this establishment. I might just be whistlin' Dixie on this here point, but I reckon not, I reckon.

Charlie 123
12-10-11, 16:34
Well y'all, as someone who once lived in the proud state of Virginia (from land of virgin soil, if not female inhabitants) , I would have to most respectfully say, in a Jeffersonian way, that this here comment looks more than a mite suspicious. While many of us Southern gentlemen do have some linguistic foibles, they are surely far less than those on display here. So while Stefan (a southern name if you are from say southern Eastern Europa) might have come from Virginia, it is doubtful he is a son of Virginia. And the rest, well it just smacks of just a little too subtle salesmanship, as in perish the thought, our above reporter is somehow connected to this establishment. I might just be whistlin' Dixie on this here point, but I reckon not, I reckon.When I read the post I immediately came to the same conclusion.

C

Lilleskutt
12-10-11, 21:25
At first I thought (and hoped) Pascha Berlin would be a giant lufhaus just like in Köln, but apparently it will be more of a club.

http://www.facebook.com/DasPaschaBerlin

At least the location couldn't be better, just minutes from Olympiastadion S-bahn. I haven't read anything about Pascha Berlin on this board, so I thought I would post it as a heads-up. After all, it is supposed to open next month.

By the way: have there been any reports on german boards about prices, etc?

Angus Magee
12-11-11, 08:45
At first I thought (and hoped) Pascha Berlin would be a giant lufhaus just like in Köln, but apparently it will be more of a club.

http://www.facebook.com/DasPaschaBerlin

At least the location couldn't be better, just minutes from Olympiastadion S-bahn. I haven't read anything about Pascha Berlin on this board, so I thought I would post it as a heads-up. After all, it is supposed to open next month.

By the way: have there been any reports on german boards about prices, etc?Interesting. And it is at the same address as Bel Ami (14 Flatowallee) so I wonder if Pascha has taken over that club? I will keep my ears open and report anything I hear.

A

Rocketboy0
12-11-11, 15:57
Interesting. And it is at the same address as Bel Ami (14 Flatowallee) so I wonder if Pascha has taken over that club? I will keep my ears open and report anything I hear.ASure hope so. Would be great if Artemis got some real competition, even from what is a smaller venue. The building does have a pool, sauna, bar, and in the right hands, might be nice. Perhaps this is the place of Angus's dreams where he could assume a management position.
I think the old Bel Ami was/is way past its "Use By date". http://www.belamiberlin.de/homepage.html
Just to complicate it all, there is another Bel Ami almost attached to Mon Rouge, as you can see by http://www.belami-berlin.de/ with some sort of shared management. Only a hyphen separates the 2 websites.

Hani69
12-12-11, 18:21
Hey guys! I need your advice. I'm coming to Berlin from Dec. 17 to 21, and after reading Angus awesome blog posts, I think that KD is the best option for me. I'm thinking about taking the 45-50 min (€120) session. Can someone recommend me a girl? I prefer if she's passionate / has sex like a GF.

Also, how can I book? Long distance calls cost a lot from Sweden, so could I try with email on the KD website?

Ravein2
12-12-11, 22:14
Hey guys! I need your advice. I'm coming to Berlin from Dec. 17 to 21, and after reading Angus awesome blog posts, I think that KD is the best option for me. I'm thinking about taking the 45-50 min (€120) session. Can someone recommend me a girl? I prefer if she's passionate / has sex like a GF.

Also, how can I book? Long distance calls cost a lot from Sweden, so could I try with email on the KD website?It is (at least, it was a couple of years ago) possible to book using e-mail. However, the easiest and best way to book is by calling. It will cost you about 0, 5 Euro, so it should not bankrupt anyone.

Blue Swede
12-12-11, 23:03
Long distance calls cost a lot from SwedenDo they really? Normally they cost 10-20% more than domestic calls, don't they?

Rocketboy0
12-12-11, 23:10
Hey guys! I need your advice. I'm coming to Berlin from Dec. 17 to 21, and after reading Angus awesome blog posts, I think that KD is the best option for me. I'm thinking about taking the 45-50 min (€120) session. Can someone recommend me a girl? I prefer if she's passionate / has sex like a GF.

Also, how can I book? Long distance calls cost a lot from Sweden, so could I try with email on the KD website?Hej Hani. You are here for 4 days. Just slow down, settle into Berlin. See who is actually around on the day and hour you need (call, as the website is an approximate guide but not fool proof) , and call from Berlin so it's cheaper (can't believe this is really such a big deal but--if so, use pay booths which would cost EUR 0.20 for maybe 3 min or so). Email bookings can work, but as has been reported here, things can change at the last minute. Not 100% sure by any means, and you still have no idea if you will "click" - photos are a guide but just not the same as being in the same room. If you were super pressed for time - well, maybe. But you are not, so

Best is really just go there, view the parade, and choose based on your judgement and sense of chemistry. No way to know your tastes, no way to predict really how you will react to them, and them to you. One man's GFE can be another man's starfish. Just go, and take your time, there are cafes just outside if you need to wait a bit. I have written alot on how the shifts change, what hours are best. Seek and ye shall find.

You might also try Prestige, Liberty, van Kampen, Mon Rouge since you have some days. Even Artemis. All fairly close to each other, all reviewed ad nauseum on this and the Art's ISG forum.

Bobo.fr
12-13-11, 00:10
.

Also, how can I book? Long distance calls cost a lot from Sweden, so could I try with email on the KD website?At KD :

For arrangements (called "escort" in the past) , you can use email.

For appointments (with ladies scheduled) : only phone calls.

Differences between "arrangement" and "appointment" : see http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1062086#post1062086

However, no arrangements possible for less than one hour (200 Euros).

Yves (the lady in blue : http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/yve-e.htm Or http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/yve-sas-e.htm) MAY kiss passionnately (normally she doesn't kiss : kisses are not among her listed services).

Bo (http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/bo-e.htm) : my first meeting with her was very hot but I could not find the same complicity in our following meetings.

So it's really difficult to recommend a lady, and as Rocketboy wrote, it would depend on the chemistry, the "click" between you and the ladies : may be you can email and ask Kira to advice you some ladies.

By the way, if you are in the house, you may ask the receptionist's advice too.

Hani69
12-13-11, 00:44
At KD :

For arrangements (called "escort" in the past) , you can use email.

For appointments (with ladies scheduled) : only phone calls.

Differences between "arrangement" and "appointment" : see.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1062086#post1062086

However, no arrangements possible for less than one hour (200 Euros).

Yves (the lady in blue :

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/yve-e.htm

Or.

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/yve-sas-e.htm

) MAY kiss passionnately (normally she doesn't kiss : kisses are not among her listed services).

Bo

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/bo-e.htm

My first meeting with her was very hot but I could not find the same complicity in our following meetings.

So it's really difficult to recommend a lady, and as Rocketboy wrote, it would depend on the chemistry, the "click" between you and the ladies : may be you can email and ask Kira to advice you some ladies.

By the way, if you are in the house, you may ask the receptionist's advice too.Thanks! I'll follow your advice.


Hej Hani. You are here for 4 days. Just slow down, settle into Berlin. See who is actually around on the day and hour you need (call, as the website is an approximate guide but not fool proof) , and call from Berlin so it's cheaper (can't believe this is really such a big deal but-if so, use pay booths which would cost EUR 0. 20 for maybe 3 min or so). Email bookings can work, but as has been reported here, things can change at the last minute. Not 100% sure by any means, and you still have no idea if you will "click". Photos are a guide but just not the same as being in the same room. If you were super pressed for time. Well, maybe. But you are not, so.

Best is really just go there, view the parade, and choose based on your judgement and sense of chemistry. No way to know your tastes, no way to predict really how you will react to them, and them to you. One man's GFE can be another man's starfish. Just go, and take your time, there are cafes just outside if you need to wait a bit. I have written alot on how the shifts change, what hours are best. Seek and ye shall find.

You might also try Prestige, Liberty, van Kampen, Mon Rouge since you have some days. Even Artemis. All fairly close to each other, all reviewed ad nauseum on this and the Art's ISG forum.Thanks for your nice reply! I guess the best option is to go there. Should I try on Sundays or it's better to go on Monday? Also, what time's the best?


Do they really? Normally they cost 10-20% more than domestic calls, don't they?With my plan it costs 5. 50kr / min (€0. 6) , while I usually pay 0. 69kr for unlimited mobile phone calls.

Rocketboy0
12-13-11, 09:18
Thanks! I'll follow your advice.

Thanks for your nice reply! I guess the best option is to go there. Should I try on Sundays or it's better to go on Monday? Also, what time's the best?Sundays much slower everywhere. You just will have to see. Monday much better, afternoons. You might try Artemis on Sun night, but it too will be slow.

All here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1210909&viewfull=1#post1210909

Angus Magee
12-13-11, 09:49
Sundays much slower everywhere. You just will have to see. Monday much better, afternoons. You might try Artemis on Sun night, but it too will be slow.

All here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1210909&viewfull=1#post1210909I have always found Sunday to be a bit of a stinker for mongering. Plenty is open but half the girls seem not to show up for work and you are left with way less choice than usual. Monday is in my experience a better bet, except for Artemis which is slower Sunday-Wednesday,

AM

Kimino
12-15-11, 12:56
Not many details, I'll try to write more once back.

Yesterday called Monrouge at about 12:00 *but only Monica and Maria where available. Monica I already sessioned with. So I visited Royal.

Sessioned with Janine, nice girl from Berlin.

Checked in at Artemis and later on went for a quick tour with Charlie123.

Cafe' Psssst.

The more interesting of the group, although probably not what I normally look for. Very small place. It's basically a Bar, kind of friendly atmosphere. Couple of customers and a a couple of girls where there, drinking at the bar.

We talked with a girl and learned that there are some rooms behind the bar somewhere and that for sure you can go there with the girls you pickup at the bar. We drinked something and left.

Bar rouge.

This is a classy place in Mitte.

Very few people inside. As we enetd we immediately spoted a few girls sitted on a sofa in the main room. At a glance, lineup was definitely sub artemis level.

(BTW lineup at Artemis yesterday was awesome imo).

We talked at the barman, a scottish guy, he explained hey have rooms where you can takethe girls for 200 / hr, but stressed the point where you should first discuss this with the girl. My understanding is that the 200 is for a plain vanilla session, but might be wrong.

Anyway, the game here is around the piccolos for 55 euros.

Not my game at all. We left.

Lady Nina.

Http://www.ladynina.eu

This is a more classical bordelle, kind of wannabe luxurious furniture. The place is bigger than what you would expect, at the first floor of a building.

10 girls there, mainly fat romanians. Maybe a couple doable, maybe.

I taked to a girl who explained me that they have rooms and the pricelist is 150 for 1hr and 120 for 30 mins. Yes, no typo the. Had an orange juice and left.

And now, for something different.

Club Valentino.

Http://club-valentino.de

This was so funny. We knew it was going to be crappy just from the entrance. But we were not expecting to fall in the middle of a group of at least 10 transvestites. We just saw the entrance and the bar room, with people sitting at the bar, I spotted at least 4/5 that where definitely trans, don't know about the rest.

Back we went to Artemis.

Kimino

Angus Magee
12-15-11, 13:40
Back we went to Artemis.

KiminoInteresting report Kimino. You really do have to wonder about these places (Bar Rouge) that look so high end on the web site yet can not attract the type of girl one would actually feel good about banging for those prices.

Personally I feel that you would do better concentrating on some of the smaller clubs further out from the city center. While the girls in these places might not be stunners, at least the prices would also not be quite so laughable. Below are links to a couple of places I have had my eye on but never visited.

http://www.club-59.de/home.php
http://rotlichtadressen.de/Setcards/candys/index.html
http://www.die-villa-berlin.de/?sh=Anfahrt

And don't forget about L'Amour2a. It is a birdello but has a bar where you can sit and have a drink.

http://www.lamour2a.de/

I was hoping to visit Art this evening but came down with a cold earlier in the week and am still feeling its' effects. Maybe next time.

AM

Montidear
12-16-11, 02:52
Hi Am / everyboday,

I will be in berlin in Jan 2012. What is the scene in KD. What is the price structure. Do they provide room there only or it is just an escort service where you need to call girl to your place.

Please let me know.

Br.

Monti

Bobby Cph
12-16-11, 09:27
Every single question you ask is answered on their website.


Hi Am / everyboday,

I will be in berlin in Jan 2012. What is the scene in KD. What is the price structure. Do they provide room there only or it is just an escort service where you need to call girl to your place.

Please let me know.

Br.

Monti

Angus Magee
12-16-11, 09:30
Hi Am / everyboday,

I will be in berlin in Jan 2012. What is the scene in KD. What is the price structure. Do they provide room there only or it is just an escort service where you need to call girl to your place.

Please let me know.

Br.

MontiKD is a bordello or apartment which means that you go to them and have your session there. Alternately they run an out call escort service where the lady comes to you. A full price explanation is available on their website but briefly-to visit a girl at the apartment, €80 / half hour, €120/45-50 mins. And €160 / extended hour.

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm

For more info search the thread as there is plenty available.

AM

Kimino
12-16-11, 11:20
Interesting report Kimino. You really do have to wonder about these places (Bar Rouge) that look so high end on the web site yet can not attract the type of girl one would actually feel good about banging for those prices.

Personally I feel that you would do better concentrating on some of the smaller clubs further out from the city center. While the girls in these places might not be stunners, at least the prices would also not be quite so laughable. Below are links to a couple of places I have had my eye on but never visited.

I was hoping to visit Art this evening but came down with a cold earlier in the week and am still feeling its' effects. Maybe next time.

AMCiao Angus, pity we didn't meet. Next time!

After visiting a bunch of places and several times the big "high end" bordelles I must say that for what I'm concerned, nothing beats the lineup at Artemis. And for the "you get a better service elsewhere" chat, in my experience it hasn't been like this.

BTW, yesterday we toured again and visited (all this between 14:00 and 17:00) :

VK. Alex (the russina girl) + 3 other girls, nothing special. We left.

Mornrouge:

We went at the bar and chatted for a while with Monica (she is leaving and will be back in March). Another girl was there but really sub average.

Dea is gone, probably in Italy. Left.

Prestige:

Lineup was made up of 4 girls. One nice (Svetlana) and the rest a bit too much in the fat side. We left.

Royal:

Very very good lineup. 9 girls. 6/7 I would go with.

Took Melina (I was actually expecting a different girls but she was fun).

From Berlin, long black hair. A lot of piercing on her pussy. Nice session.

Once again Royal had the best lineup of the bunch.

Kimino

Montidear
12-17-11, 08:38
Hello, AM / All,

I am new to berlin. Please tell me, if all hotels are escort friendly. Are there any special hotels for this for short duration.

Br.

Monti

Marc31
12-17-11, 21:30
Hi guys,

I going to be in Berlin in Jan / Feb for a couple of days and I was wondering whether some of.

You know a girl that's tattooed & pierced (kind of goth / punk / alternative.) and can be visited.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Kind regards, Marc

Marc31
12-17-11, 23:56
Hi guys,

I going to be in Berlin in Jan / Feb for a couple of days and I was wondering whether some of you might know a woman who's tattooed & pierced (kind of goth, punk, alternative.) and can be visited.

Any suggestions are much appreciated!

Kind regards, Marc

Charlie 123
12-18-11, 07:48
Kimino wrote a great report on our adventures together this week. I don't have a lot to add. Two observations:-

Cafe Psst looked very intriguing to me. A tiny little pick up bar populated by Berlin MILFS. I will be visiting Cafe Psst again in the New Year. Further info to follow.

Royal once again proved to be by far the best of the bordelles that we visited. I have been 3 times and each time the line up was first class and the service excellent.

C

Bobo.fr
12-18-11, 18:11
Hi guys,

I going to be in Berlin in Jan / Feb for a couple of days and I was wondering whether some of you might know a woman who's tattooed & pierced (kind of goth, punk, alternative.) and can be visited.

Any suggestions are much appreciated!

Kind regards, MarcMaria at Kamilla-Dee

James 006
12-19-11, 00:18
Hey,

I am in Berlin and have a car. I talked with a german guy in Artemis yesterday and he told me about sexclubs just over the border into Poland. Is it some good sex clubs there. I would be happy if anyone can confirm this? I'm curious to new places and would definitely gamble on some day trips where I try out new places. Where are the places on the Polish side? I have gps and need some tips and advice on whether it is worth driving so far for new experiences. How far into Poland must I travel? I promise to write a report if I go.

Montidear
12-19-11, 02:35
Hello, AM / All,

I am new to berlin. Please tell me, if all hotels are escort friendly. Are there any special hotels for this for short duration.

Br.

Monti

Angus Magee
12-19-11, 08:17
Hello, AM / All,

I am new to berlin. Please tell me, if all hotels are escort friendly. Are there any special hotels for this for short duration.

Br.

MontiI don't have experience with Berlin hotels but, as this is Berlin, I can not imagine not hotel would stop you from having a short time guest. I might ask though-why not go to one of the excellent apartments where it is all set up for sexual escapades? The only advantage of an escort is that they can visit later in the evening. Unless this is an absolute necessity for you apartments offer an over all better experience if you ask me. And if you can only play late at night I suggest Artemis.

AM

Rocketboy0
12-19-11, 09:02
Hello, AM / All, I am new to berlin. Please tell me, if all hotels are escort friendly. Are there any special hotels for this for short duration.

MontiAngus surely right. Charlie123 could weigh in as he has the experience but most hotels don't care. If you need for some other reason a "Ho"tel, one I believe used by street girls and execs for afternoon delights, etc, which has hourly rates, is the Penzion Stockholm. Their website pretty much says it all.

http://www.love-hotel-berlin.com

It is close to Liberty as Plan B.

Angus Magee
12-19-11, 09:51
Hey,

I am in Berlin and have a car. I talked with a german guy in Artemis yesterday and he told me about sexclubs just over the border into Poland. Is it some good sex clubs there. I would be happy if anyone can confirm this? I'm curious to new places and would definitely gamble on some day trips where I try out new places. Where are the places on the Polish side? I have gps and need some tips and advice on whether it is worth driving so far for new experiences. How far into Poland must I travel? I promise to write a report if I go.Never heard of these places. They probably do exist but I am not sure that you will find any info here about them. I have seen in small towns east of Berlin bars that I thought, must be a brothel. But I was with friends and never stopped at any. If you feel adventurous give it a go. The Polish boarder is not very far from Berlin, maybe an hour at the most.

AM

Montidear
12-19-11, 17:56
Angus surely right. Charlie123 could weigh in as he has the experience but most hotels don't care. If you need for some other reason a "Ho"tel, one I believe used by street girls and execs for afternoon delights, etc, which has hourly rates, is the Penzion Stockholm. Their website pretty much says it all.

http://www.love-hotel-berlin.com

It is close to Liberty as Plan B.Thanks lot!

Montidear
12-19-11, 17:57
I don't have experience with Berlin hotels but, as this is Berlin, I can not imagine not hotel would stop you from having a short time guest. I might ask though-why not go to one of the excellent apartments where it is all set up for sexual escapades? The only advantage of an escort is that they can visit later in the evening. Unless this is an absolute necessity for you apartments offer an over all better experience if you ask me. And if you can only play late at night I suggest Artemis.

AMThanks AM.

Regards Monti

Gergiev
12-20-11, 04:20
Cafe Psst looked very intriguing to me. A tiny little pick up bar populated by Berlin MILFS. I will be visiting Cafe Psst again in the New Year. Further info to follow.Same here, Charlie.

I didn't play as I'd already been to Kamilla Dee earlier that day but I liked the atmosphere and the challenge of figuring out how to have extract a gem from the bar.

Will be interesting to hear how you get on when you return.

VG

Angus Magee
12-20-11, 10:06
Now they have up a web page with opening date (09/01/12) and prices. As far as I can make out the room charges will start at €120 for the half hour. Either they are delusional or they are trying to siphon off the best Artemis girls with promises of riches. For that price I sure hope Mohab gets his Deep Throat Kisses.

I guess all we can do is wait and see.

http://www.pascha.de/berlin/index.htm

AM

Kimino
12-20-11, 17:28
Now they have up a web page with opening date (09/01/12) and prices. As far as I can make out the room charges will start at €120 for the half hour. Either they are delusional or they are trying to siphon off the best Artemis girls with promises of riches. For that price I sure hope Mohab gets his Deep Throat Kisses.

I guess all we can do is wait and see.

http://www.pascha.de/berlin/index.htm

AMOk, I offer myself for beta testing. :)

"Might" be in Berlin on the 11th or 12th.

From 09:00 to 21:00 entry 30euros. 30min for 100euro.

From 21:00 to 9:00 entry 60euros. 30 min for 120euro.

Do I understand correctly?

Kimino

Nille Copenhagen
12-20-11, 17:38
Ok, I offer myself for beta testing. .

"Might" be in Berlin on the 11th or 12th.

From 09:00 to 21:00 entry 30euros. 30min for 100euro.

From 21:00 to 9:00 entry 60euros. 30 min for 120euro.

Do I understand correctly?

KiminoThat's what the website stated.

They are open 24/7 that's crazy for the girls.

You can hang out in the club forever, just pay one entry, LOL

Angus Magee
12-20-11, 19:26
Ok, I offer myself for beta testing. .

"Might" be in Berlin on the 11th or 12th.

From 09:00 to 21:00 entry 30euros. 30min for 100euro.

From 21:00 to 9:00 entry 60euros. 30 min for 120euro.

Do I understand correctly?

KiminoLooks about right. Above it does say "Eintritt Frei" or Admission Free. So still a little unclear.

But good for you Kimino if you take one for the team. I'm sure Charlie will fly wingman if needed.

AM

Tonio1
12-20-11, 22:16
Hi guys,

I going to be in Berlin in Jan / Feb for a couple of days and I was wondering whether some of you might know a woman who's tattooed & pierced (kind of goth, punk, alternative.) and can be visited.

Any suggestions are much appreciated!

Kind regards, MarcThere are a lot of tatooed girls at KM, e. G. http://www.kaufmich.com/concubine An asian girl, http://www.kaufmich.com/Lena20 A german girl, http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-KittyCore-28643.html A german pornstar and several others that fit your criterias.

FrankyBoy79
12-21-11, 11:49
Dear Friends,

I made an enjoyable experience at the Gang Bang Party flat known as Erlebniswohnung. It is really worth the money and the girls (mostly 5 or 6 of them in action during the day) are really involved into it. The buffet in the living room with flat screen TV is always freshly served, shower and sauna are also available. I must admit that the girls are all attractive and it is easy to make friends there. Competing with other three-legged humans is not necessary, as you would always get the attention you need. The only advice I can give is to give it a try. It is great fun and if the chemistry is right, a girl would always be pleased to conversate.

If interest be, just check out the website: www.erlebniswohnung.de; I find the prices to be competitive for the service and welcoming attitiude you will receive.

Happily enough, I live and work in Berlin.

Until then, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you!

Franci

Phibe
12-21-11, 15:43
As the title says, has anyone got info on how the girls are like? Especially Ella interests me, but I'd like to know something in advance, maybe someone booked her or another girl of that escort service? They have many nice looking girls.

Greets phibe

Hani69
12-21-11, 19:59
So I went to KD at around 5, I didn't have much choice really, the woman showed me 4 ladies and I chose Nina:

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/nina-e.htm

A german girl. I was a bit hesitant at first because she looked a bit old (from her face) , but when she took everything off, I swear she looks like she has the body of a 20 year old. Took the cheapest option. 30 minutes, and she treated me really nice. She was very passionate and friendly. We spent some time kissing, cuddling, and touching each other. I couldn't cum from her blowjob for some reason (maybe because of the damn condom, never tried a BJ with a condom) so she told me where to I prefer to cum from her vagina or behind (I think for no extra charge) , but I went with the vagina option. It definitely was one of the best orgasms I ever had. BTW, some guy mentioned that she

Overall, a great experience for a small price. Maybe 30 minutes isn't enough for some, but for me it's a pretty good bargain for the money and for the girl I got. KD is quite decent, I loved how the girls respected your privacy with the bells on the bathroom / bedroom door so that they check if the cost is clear and tell you to go out. Would definitely come back, maybe in the early afternoon so that I get more options.

Tonio1
12-21-11, 22:32
As the title says, has anyone got info on how the girls are like? Especially Ella interests me, but I'd like to know something in advance, maybe someone booked her or another girl of that escort service? They have many nice looking girls.

Greets phibePhibe,

First time seen that escort service but 150 Euros / h is rather the upper end for Berlin. I bet you will find the same ladies cheaper (120/130 Euros / h) on kaufmich and / or Berlinintim with their own pages. At http://www.poppen.de/sexdream_mia You will find seven clear pictures of Bella (free login to see the pictures, they are PG.)

Best regards, T

Kimino
12-21-11, 23:38
Dear Friends,

I made an enjoyable experience at the Gang Bang Party flat known as Erlebniswohnung. It is really worth the money and the girls (mostly 5 or 6 of them in action during the day) are really involved into it. The buffet in the living room with flat screen TV is always freshly served, shower and sauna are also available. I must admit that the girls are all attractive and it is easy to make friends there. Competing with other three-legged humans is not necessary, as you would always get the attention you need. The only advice I can give is to give it a try.Hi Franci, had a look at the site but my german is zero. Some of the girls look really nice.

Couple of questions, if you have the time and wish to answer:

- you just pay the entrance and that's it? I didn't see other prices.

- surely the girls speak english, what about the staff? Got the feeling it's an ausslander friendly place?

- do you just show up or you have to call or something?

- it's only gangbangs or you can go privately with a girl?

Thanks in advance.

Kimino

Razor
12-22-11, 02:11
Kimino,

Well, our monger friend probably won't mind, I'll jump here:

* Yes, you just pay one time 90 (Monday to Thursday) and 99 in Friday & Saturday.

* Not many girls speak english and the Turkish guy hardly speak some. The place is kind small, but adequate.

* Yes, Just be there at noon or 3 PM in Fri or Sat. At 155 Karl Mark, you can take the UB7.

* GangBang all the way. Non stop action. Fantastic! My kind of thing.

Best girl from the pack: IVONNE, LEXA and many good ones, Check it out and let us know.

Razor.

Rocketboy0
12-22-11, 08:31
Looks about right. Above it does say "Eintritt Frei" or Admission Free. So still a little unclear.
But good for you Kimino if you take one for the team. I'm sure Charlie will fly wingman if needed.

AMIt is slightly clearer if you read German. Entrance is free til 2100, with soft drinks free. If you pay some sort of 30 more, you get alcoholic drinks, apparently without limit.
Then with either drink option, it is 100 Eur for 30 minutes of thrills and chills. So before 9pm, if you lay off the booze, the minimum is 100 EUR for 30 minutes.
However, this gives us no idea of what that really means re what is standard and what are extras: kissing, BBBJ etc. Could just start the meter.
Then after 9-all the prices go up. 60 for entrance. 120 for 30 min, so the minimum would be EUR 180 for one 30 min session. It seems that this includes alcoholic drinks, also for the ladies. Hard to believe this really means unlimited booze all night,but that´s what it implies.

I have seen the place and there is a small pool and sauna. But the website design suggests this may be more like MediaMarkt less than a tasteful elegant deal. vs. what K&C found in Bar Rouge, Mitte.

The womens better be plenty good, because given all the well known alternatives, it is expensive. Doubtful they will be "that" good but who knows.

(Aside - Jackson, the ISG is a world wonder, but I truly hate HATE HATE the text editor that imposes its sense of grammar and punctuation that is so often wrong, and forces one to constantly edit comments that did make sense when written).

SirMarjAlot
12-27-11, 13:59
frankfurt to berlin.

arrived in berlin from frankfurt via the the-bahn for 91. 50 euros nearly 3 hours late due to the emergency cord being pulled a couple of times. i found berlin hauptbahnhof confusing as i tried to work out the you-bahn to charlottenburg, in the end take a taxi for 14 euros on the meter. was staying at ai konigshof hotel at stuttgarter platz, charlottenburg in west berlin. i had booked this hotel up via agoda for 55 usd a night. the hotel and room was nice enough can't complain.

artemis fkk.

for my first night in berlin just took a taxi to the artemis fkk at halenseestraße 32-36 for 8 euros.

http://www.fkk-artemis.de/

entry fee was 80 euros! ouch, but was only one night out of my life so paid the fee i did. locked my valuable aways then my cloths took a robe and some sandals and took a nice hot shower. then into the big lounge aka the smoking room. soft drink from the bar then got chatting to some curvy girls from the caribbean. cuban and jamaican girls with some big booty. first impressions were the girls here were slightly maturer than say the palace in frankfurt more experienced and definitely more dirty. basic sex was going to set me back 60 euros and then extra services like anal and cim were 50 euros. a threesome with extras was a bit too expensive for me but these girls were up for it.

ethiopian girl.

i took a wander around outside the sex kino meet a lovely black girl from ethiopia. can't resist her plus she do all the extra services. so took her to one of the rooms. i nearly cum in her big black ass to begin without a condom, i not push it all the way in but was nestled tightly between her big black buttocks. we fucked doggy her on top and some missionary and then she gave me a great bbbj finishing with cim and she just sucked it all up. i did find the smoking room in the artemis very smoky and quite dark lots of girls in there though and quite busy with mongers for a thursday night.

king george bordello.

the next day did the city tour in the daytime and then in the evening was trying to choose where to visit via my mongering map of berlin. too be honest i found berlin hard to navigate, there is no central red light district like hamburg and frankfurt, mostly it has bordello of different classes rep001tered all over the city. i chose king george bordello which opens at 4pm. took the you-bahn to isenacher straße and found the king george.

http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/startseite.html

price was 100 euros all night, free drinks and you could fuck as many girls as you like, there were 11 girls working tonight. another option was 1 hour for 49 euros. i took the cheaper option, my expectations were not high, if only the fkk operated on this price structure, i was right inside it was a bit tatty the girls were mostly maturer overweight tired looking. got chatting to the best of the bunch from what i could see an early twenties girl from hungary.

took her to the back room and covered blowjob then fucked her different positions but i was finding it hard to keep and erection or even cum. after stayed until my hour was up but not take another girl. not a great experience for me but a different night could have been alot better, i guess you always have to try your luck.

kamilla dee bordello.

my last day in berlin i visit the kamilla dee bordello.

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/

took the you-bahn to blissestraße and the maid took me inside to one of the bedrooms. the bedroom was very nice, price for basic sex was going to be 80 euros. only 3 girls working today being saturday two really tall german girls and one cute italian girl. i took the italian. she had small tits big shapely arse and natural dark unshaven pussy which i like. fucked her mostly doggy nice girl.

later take the s-bahn from charlottenburg direct to berlin schönefeld airport for my flight back to london for 3 euros. took around 40 minutes considering a taxi driver had quoted me 40 euros for the same trip. so many bordellos in berlin would have liked to try some more.

mongering map of berlin.

http://g.co/maps/b3qp4

WarmStone25
12-27-11, 18:30
I noted that Artemis has a day of reduced entry fee for pensioners. Does any one know if the likes of Kamila Dee or Royal make a similar allowance or have any age limits?

James 006
12-27-11, 19:37
I am back in Berlin,

I was in Artimis yesterday and must say that it is far from what I expected. It is clear that many girls are home for Christmas. There were far fewer girls than usual. Before, I thought that this is the best fkk in Germany, but I do not think it is anymore.
They opened at 18.00 yesterday and anyway, everyone was paying full price 80 E.

I have been a trip to the strip club, Rush Hours, as always, the weekend has an entrance fee of 20 E. I know that some of the girls give full sex in a private room as part of a private show. None of the pretty girls
does something more than dancing this weekend. It was sad. Some of the 5 dancers are really beautiful and delicious...

I will try some bordellos today and will give a report later.

Nille Copenhagen
12-27-11, 19:51
I am back in Berlin,

I was in Artimis yesterday and must say that it is far from what I expected. It is clear that many girls are home for Christmas. There were far fewer girls than usual. Before, I thought that this is the best fkk in germany, but I do not think it is anymore.

They opened at 18. 00 yesterday and anyway, everyone was paying full price 80 E.Just bad timing, most girls are home for Christmas, that is the same for all clubs.

Come back for new year eve that should be much better.

Bearsk
12-27-11, 20:04
Expensive per session.

Its looks close to OlympiaStadion S bahn not too far West of Westkreusz.

I can feel a Kimino report and an Angus Magee Production FMH&FM video coming on.


Hi Franci, had a look at the site but my german is zero. Some of the girls look really nice.

Couple of questions, if you have the time and wish to answer:

- you just pay the entrance and that's it? I didn't see other prices.

- surely the girls speak english, what about the staff? Got the feeling it's an ausslander friendly place?

- do you just show up or you have to call or something?

- it's only gangbangs or you can go privately with a girl?

Thanks in advance.

Kimino

Angus Magee
12-27-11, 20:56
Expensive per session.

Its looks close to OlympiaStadion S bahn not too far West of Westkreusz.

I can feel a Kimino report and an Angus Magee Production FMH&FM video coming on.I think you are mixing bordellos here Bearsk. Eribniswohnung is a gang bang flat rate in NeuKoeln. The place near the stadium is Pascha club which is expensive and yet to be tested. In fact it is not yet open.

AM

Customx
12-27-11, 21:17
Hi Kimono. I was there in October. Filed a full report in the Partytreff forum. As to your questions:

One fee covers everything including food and drink which was quite well done. You can stay as long as you like and fuck as much as you want. Girls were better looking than on web site and nearly all were FKK quality.

Some of the girls speak some English. But most of them didn't talk while working except to groan or moan now and then. They had their mouths full. They did chat a bit while eating along with the guys. The managers speak fluent English.

You can just show up. No need to call.

It is only gangbangs. No privacy at all. Closest I saw to a private session was one girl bent over the clothes dryer in the laundry room taking it from behind.

For me it was a fabulous experience. Much like being in one of the GGG movies. But this is NOT an FKK. There is no flirting, no kissing, very little talking. And no private sessions. Just hard core fucking in an atmosphere that is surprisingly fun and relaxed.

All the best. Customx.


Hi Franci, had a look at the site but my german is zero. Some of the girls look really nice.

Couple of questions, if you have the time and wish to answer:

- you just pay the entrance and that's it? I didn't see other prices.

- surely the girls speak english, what about the staff? Got the feeling it's an ausslander friendly place?

- do you just show up or you have to call or something?

- it's only gangbangs or you can go privately with a girl?

Thanks in advance.

Kimino

Kimino
12-27-11, 22:29
Hi Kimono. I was there in October. Filed a full report in the Partytreff forum. As to your questions:thanks Costomx (and all others) , I am curious and will definitely pay a visit.

Maybe in my next Berlin trip.

Ciao!

Kimino

James 006
12-28-11, 06:45
Hello,

I've been out and tried my luck tonight.

First I visited Kamilla Dee:

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/s.rls/nina-e.htm

It's a mystery why so many write good reports from this place. I have visited this place several times every time I'm in Berlin, hoping to meet some of the ladies that look great on their website. I have never come on right time or is the photographs on the evidence from the past? I have therefore not yet had a session with some of the girls there. They have simply not been for my taste.

There were three girls at work tonight and no one appealed. I took a trip over to Royal that is not so far away: www.royalgirl.de

The premises are perhaps also even better than KD, there were 9 women and 4 I could accept, but it something happened to me which I did not like: The system is so that you will not encounter any other customers when you arrive, on the way to the room, the shower and when you leave. I was kindly received and got a room. Then I meet some of the girls. I am happy to say I liked most of them. Still the hostess promised me to see some more girls. I was expecting supermodel material and the hostess shut the door. Then I was completely forgotten. I was seated to hear the moaning from the rooms on both sides and it was a bit funny, but to sit for almost an hour without being informed is unacceptable.

Finally I walked out of the room to signal that I was unhappy. I wanted to fuck and do not spy on other people's activities. When I came out of the room was the hostess very stressed and I was immediately ordered back to the room. I said I did not have time for this and only then admitted the hostess that she had forgotten me. None of the 4 ladies I'd like a session with was free and I firmly believe that other customers who came and went while I was sitting in the room came in ahead of me. Not all had reservations, I heard. An unconvincing sorry was all I got.

I headed to the Mona Club in Kant Strasse. There, I finally got a good session with Vicky, a young beautiful girl. Only 35 E.

Then I took a tour of strip clubs:

First stop was: www.die-villa-berlin.de

This is one of the worst strip club I've been to and I have been to many. Only three terrible women. 10 E entrance.

I went further to CP CLUB: http://cpclub-berlin.de

10 E centers and 5 women, all with lots of tattoos. None of them know how to dance and none of those in the club tonight, did more than provide dance shows. I went quickly on.

Tried also Gold Club in Oranienburg Strasse. Outside there is always quite nice street prostitutes. This club had only a fat unrhythmic dancer. It cost 10E to get inn, and there were two ladies who provide sex. The girl who sell fake dollars to the dancer was really delicious.

Tomorrow is a new day with new opportunities. To be continued.

Bearsk
12-28-11, 07:15
Angus, thats why we need the video guidance. I am happy to help provided you can hold the camera and control my seeing-eye dog. BSK.


I think you are mixing bordellos here Bearsk. Eribniswohnung is a gang bang flat rate in NeuKoeln. The place near the stadium is Pascha club which is expensive and yet to be tested. In fact it is not yet open.

AM

Bobo.fr
12-28-11, 14:00
. Etc.

I headed to the Mona Club in Kant Strasse. There, I finally got a good session with Vicky, a young beautiful girl. Only 35 E.Thanks for your report.

I was intrigued by this club since its opening, probably one or two years ago.

I saw it only from the street (first floor, above a big sex-video shop (probably "PRIVATE") , at a corner of Kant strass with probably Leibnitzstrass).

I think that your post is the first one about (what happened with) this club.

1) Did you use English in the club or only German.

2) 35 Euros was for 20 minutes or 30 minutes? Did you get a shower there? Do we pay for a period (30 minutes. 60 minutes) or for a "shot" within the paid period? Do kisses need "extras"?

I've just got some answers from the web site ( http://www.mona-club.de/www.mona-club.de/Willkommen.html ) : 35 Euros for 20 minutes.

Thanks

JJJ1987
12-29-11, 11:57
Hey there,

I've read that many gangbang places you need to come with a girl. Is that such a place? Or can I show up as a single guy, pay the fee and have a good time?

Also, sidenote: What are the best Partytreff places? It seems King George and Caligula are the most notorious, but they also seem to have many bad reviews. Are there any that are unanimously great?


Hi Kimono. I was there in October. Filed a full report in the Partytreff forum. As to your questions:

One fee covers everything including food and drink which was quite well done. You can stay as long as you like and fuck as much as you want. Girls were better looking than on web site and nearly all were FKK quality.

Some of the girls speak some English. But most of them didn't talk while working except to groan or moan now and then. They had their mouths full. They did chat a bit while eating along with the guys. The managers speak fluent English.

You can just show up. No need to call.

It is only gangbangs. No privacy at all. Closest I saw to a private session was one girl bent over the clothes dryer in the laundry room taking it from behind.

For me it was a fabulous experience. Much like being in one of the GGG movies. But this is NOT an FKK. There is no flirting, no kissing, very little talking. And no private sessions. Just hard core fucking in an atmosphere that is surprisingly fun and relaxed.

All the best. Customx.

SirMarjAlot
12-29-11, 22:11
Tried also Gold Club in Oranienburg Strasse. Outside there is always quite nice street prostitutes. This club had only a fat unrhythmic dancer. It cost 10E to get inn, and there were two ladies who provide sex. The girl who sell fake dollars to the dancer was really delicious.

Tomorrow is a new day with new opportunities. To be continued.Nice one Dick, warts and all reporting. Did I make a biig booboo on trip to Berlin, is Oranienburg Strasse where the Berlin streetwalkers can be found?

I went looking down Oranienstraße

Angus Magee
12-30-11, 00:26
Hey there,

I've read that many gangbang places you need to come with a girl. Is that such a place? Or can I show up as a single guy, pay the fee and have a good time?

Also, sidenote: What are the best Partytreff places? It seems King George and Caligula are the most notorious, but they also seem to have many bad reviews. Are there any that are unanimously great?Gang Bangs are set up for single guys to all bang any where from one to several girls (usually more than one but a small GB will have one girl). So you can certainly arrive single.

In Berlin there are no real Partytreffs, just the Flat Rates you mention. I would not say that they are terrible but they are just fuck clubs, not much romance or what I would call good sex. For Partytreff you have to really ask for advise in the appropriate thread and as I say, nothing really in Berlin.

AM

JJJ1987
12-30-11, 17:51
Erlibneswohnung Report

Hey everyone. First of all, thank you everyone who answered questions about this place. I had no trouble finding it at all.

Location: 155 Karl Marx St.

Site: http://www.erlebniswohnung.de

Time: 12:00 noon till late, every day except Sat, where it starts at 3.

There are three rooms in the place: Two bedrooms / sex rooms, one living room. In addition, there's the changing room and a shower / sauna room.

When I first got there, there were three girls working. About 8 to 10 guys there. At first I wasn't really sure what I was supposed to do; it wasn't explained very clearly. It seems there's something of an informal order to things, but not really.

Guys sit around the one or two girls in the room. Usually one guy is fucking the girl, while the girl gives a guy a blowjob. The guy getting a blowjob usually fucks the girl after the blowjob. At the same time, there's a third guy who's just caressing the girl, who's usually next to get a blowjob. In other words, there's usually about three guys around a girl at any given time, and there's kind of a rotation going on. Of course, it doesn't always happen that way.

There are guys sitting around the room. At first I thought there might be a line or something, but it's really just jump in whenever you want.

Girls were overall pretty hot. Some were a little older, but there was definitely at least two girls throughout the day that were stunners. Not the hottest girls I've ever seen, but definitely hot enough to bang.

I ended up getting 3 BJs, fucked 2 girls and also bukkaked a really hot busty blonde girl who was giving like 5 guys BJs / hand jobs at the same time. She was super into it, it was awesome.

Also, the food's great. We had pasta and chicken, as well as some kind of beef stew kind of thing, along with a bunch of snacks like chips and chocolate and such.

The only downside I'd say was the guy to girl ratio. There seemed to be about 3 girls in action at any given time. Throughout the day I saw maybe 6 to 8 different girls (I had to leave at 5,) but many of them took breaks or rotated in and out. By contrast, by about 2:00 there were at least 20 guys there. So there was a lot of waiting around, as well as just general sense of gross-ness of seeing 10 naked guys standing in a room some of them jerking off.

So, they could have had a few more girls in play. Apart from that though, I'd give my experience a 10/10.

Nille Copenhagen
12-31-11, 00:33
Erlibneswohnung Report

So, they could have had a few more girls in play. Apart from that though, I'd give my experience a 10/10.Great stuff, I'm looking forward to visit this place. For new year eve (today) they have up to 10 girls.

How clean is die Wohnung, can you fuck in the main room with the TV?

Which nationality are the girls and guys (mostly German I believe)

Diet Coke
01-01-12, 08:33
Great stuff, I'm looking forward to visit this place. For new year eve (today) they have up to 10 girls.

How clean is die Wohnung, can you fuck in the main room with the TV?

Which nationality are the girls and guys (mostly German I believe) Are the guys all naked? Robes? Showers? Where do you store your clothes and valuables? Girls supply condoms?

James 006
01-01-12, 15:51
Happy New Year!

I have tried my luck again in Berlin and has the following to report:

About Mona in Kant strasse. Yes, that's exactly what Bobo. Fr describes. It is located on the second floor of a sex shop. The ladies who worked there seemed to all be from romania. I've been there twice to fuck two very young and pretty ladies for 30 E (not 35). I think this is for 20 minutes, but they are not strict on time. I used english with no problem.

It is both a man and a woman who alternates as a receptionist. Both pleasant.

When you arrive you will get a room where the ladies come in to introduce themselves.

The ladies are quite funny and they also have a small bar where you can have a drink and chat with the ladies. Maybe you decide you want another round?

The ladies are young and pretty, but expect no supermodels.

I visited Tabu Table Dance Bar (Shakespeareplatz) and the club was very good for a few years ago (I think they had a different address). Now it's mostly older dancers who provide sex as part of a private show (100 E) and some younger who do not provide sex. The younger dancers are not super model material so I was not disappointed when they rejected my sexual approach.

After trying all the strip clubs in Berlin last week, I think I'm done with all that is called strip clubs in Berlin. Waste of time and money and little entertaining.

I have also visited Muller (Lankwitzer Strasse 7). This is a place with mostly three young sexy women from Poland work. They were all very nice and this is a place I will visit more often. Service is a bit too mechanical, but what can you expect for only 30 E? Muller is a bit far from downtown.

I have great pleasure in watching the girls in Oranienburg strasse. I pass by from time to time. I do like their fashion style as well as the girls are very pretty. Even to talk to them can be funn. The problem is that the ladies in Oranienburg strasse is very expensive and rely on to lure me and other tourists. Has anyone on the forum some good experiences with girls from Oranienburger strasse? I would like to hear about experiences with these "lovely ladies". - I do not understand what SirMarjAlot try to describe below. Please try again SirMarjAlot.

These girls must be said to be good performers in persuading the more or less Random passersby. How ever, I have not seen that they are able to pick up customers. It looks like they most of the time freeze to death on a corner. But the girls have to earn something to keep it going right?

I had the pleasure of celebrating New Year on Erlibneswohnung. It looks a little worn out, but inside it is quite nice. It was a strange experience to eat while people fucking and sucking in all directions. There is no way to lock in clothing, but the staff put your valuables in a locker with your name on it. I think I was the only tourist and it was mainly Germans there. All the women were German. I concentrated on the two prettiest girls and got sucked and fucked more than I have done for a long time. I do not think the level of the ladies is worth 160 E and I think I'll stick to Artimis. But it was a fun experience. Many Germans dress up with costumes, hats and ties. One of the most fun was seeing all the weird faces when the guys concentrated on fucking. I was about to laugh myself to death, but managed to hold back my laughter. There were some extremely large and fat German people who had difficulties in getting placed their dick into the pussy because their stomach was in the way. Also, many were a bit desperate to achieve an orgasm. A lady fucked one of these power guys for several hours. It must be said to be an impressive job. But as they say. Some have to do this job.

Bobo.fr
01-01-12, 17:01
Thanks Dick1 for your report (especially your further precisions about Mona club) and Happy new year too.

I was present once at a gangbang (see http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=969586#post969586) and realized that's not for me!

James 006
01-01-12, 18:14
One more thing: I was visiting monrouge in Lebnizstrasse 57. They have redecorated since last time I had funn here with a Romanian girl about a year ago. It was a very friendly lady who welcomed me and I had good contact with the lovely and tattooed lady at the bar. But I do not think their ladies are nice. Many are from Africa. One or two I could have fucked on a weak day. BUT the prices are extraordinarily high and it is for me unacceptable to fuck overpriced ladies on a good day. We get a lot better for our money elsewhere.

Bobo.fr
01-01-12, 22:11
One more thing: I was visiting monrouge in Lebnizstrasse 57.

Etc.

But I do not think their ladies are nice.

Etc.I met Sybel And Julia (by the way, do they still really Work there?) who were nice.


. Etc.

BUT the prices are extraordinarily high and it is for me unacceptable to fuck overpriced ladies on a good day. We get a lot better for our money elsewhere.If I remember well, prices are:

Before 21:00 (9 PM) : 150 Euros / hour.

After 21:00 (9 PM) : 160 Euros / hour.

So before 21:00, same price as Royal (

http://www.royalgirl.de/preise-im-royal-bordell-berlin.html

)

After 21:00, same price as Kamilla-Dee (

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/infos_e.htm

)

Gergiev
01-02-12, 04:19
I had the pleasure of celebrating New Year on Erlibneswohnung.

I do not think the level of the ladies is worth 160 E and I think I'll stick to Artimis.Dick, thanks for the fine report.

Just a small point - I think that must have been a special New year's Eve price as I believe the normal entry is between €70 and €100.

VG

AhmetKatirci
01-03-12, 01:36
Can anyone give any information about Insomnia? What kind of club is it? I had read about gangbang in there but not useful.

I am talking about this club: http://www.insomnia-berlin.de/

AhmetKatirci
01-03-12, 01:40
Can anyone give any information about Insomnia? What kind of place is it?

I am talking about http://www.insomnia-berlin.de/

Nille Copenhagen
01-03-12, 11:27
Can anyone give any information about Insomnia? What kind of place is it?

I am talking about.

http://www.insomnia-berlin.de/Ahmet!

What kind of tone and attitude is this. It's a swingerclub with GB events!

Angus Magee
01-03-12, 15:49
Can anyone give any information about Insomnia? What kind of place is it?

I am talking about.

http://www.insomnia-berlin.de/The search function is a wonderful thing. There are at the very least a couple of reports to be found if you use it.

AM

John Corey
01-03-12, 20:59
i have visited berlin a few times over the last couple of years but only ventured out to artemis. i was in berlin over thanksgiving for a day and a half and visited royal which was a great experience (big thank you to all my peers who have done a great job reporting).

i decided to return to berlin over new year's eve and spend some time exploring the various private houses.

the best experience i had was at royal. they have the best best line up and service. the worst experience was at kamilla de and it was a let down in every respect from the lack of people's skills on part of the mamasan and the total lack luster performance from penny. they insisted they had only three girls and penny was not available. it literally took 10 minutes between each of the three girls that showed up. 30 minutes or maybe a little less in that 5x5 cubicle! van kamp and presitge are a close second to royal with very good customer service but the rooms and the general hygiene at royal is bar none.

on new year's eve i was at van kamp and as they literally had two choices at noon so i went with grace from ukraine. she is tall, well proportioned and very pretty but there is a menu of extra a bit more than the other girls at other places. she claimed she is new and works only a few times a month. the day before that i was at royal and had the opportunity of meeting elena from russia. i had a great experience. the best thing about royal is the mamasan comes up to you at the end to enquire if all went well. it is great pr regardless of how sincere they are about your experience. in sum i liked the line up and the non rushed service at the houses so much that i have yet to visit artemis. thank to all of you for sharing your experiences.

Crstn89
01-10-12, 23:04
Hi, I'm planning on going to Berlin in May 2012, and I have been looking at different brothels and places to go, can anybody recommend Tiffany's on Ritterstrasse 11? It is my first visit to such a place.

Charlie 123
01-11-12, 02:50
Hi, I'm planning on going to Berlin in May 2012, and I have been looking at different brothels and places to go, can anybody recommend Tiffany's on Ritterstrasse 11? It is my first visit to such a place.Read the thread. In an hour of reading you could garner 90% of what you could ever wish to know about the Berlin sex scene.

Charlie

Rocketboy0
01-11-12, 09:54
Read the thread. In an hour of reading you could garner 90% of what you could ever wish to know about the Berlin sex scene.

CharlieMost def. And as Angus said earlier, use the search engine. For these kind of general questions it has all been said before.

One caveat. Rating a "place" is a function of your tastes, and how those may or may not jive with those of the reviewers and who they met, how the chemistry was between them, at the particular hour when they visited. In other words, a complex thing, made even more complex by girls coming and going. One example, there have been some negative reviews of Kamilla Dee recently. However, many of us locals would say KD is one of the better places around. IMHO, the reviewers chose less than optimal times to visit, and I think they missed out on the better talents.

Ritter 11 is big enough that most tastes can be satisfied if you go say mid afternoon, or for the pm shift maybe after 7:30, and I have had some fine times there. Call ahead to at least know if someone you saw on the website is actually there.

Ahaajeah
01-12-12, 17:07
Hello!

I am newbie in this business, and I'm going to Berlin next summer. I really would like to try some black girls (with curves) there. I know Liberty has Linda, but that seems like a long shot, when only one girl would be acceptable. Is it so that I have to run to different bordellos to see if the one girl I want is available or is there place where more black girls offer ther services? Is it possible to reserve the girl in advance, so that I know she'll be there? And yes I will do my report after my long planned trip.

Thanks for advance!

Angus Magee
01-12-12, 21:04
Hello!

I am newbie in this business, and I'm going to Berlin next summer. I really would like to try some black girls (with curves) there. I know Liberty has Linda, but that seems like a long shot, when only one girl would be acceptable. Is it so that I have to run to different bordellos to see if the one girl I want is available or is there place where more black girls offer ther services? Is it possible to reserve the girl in advance, so that I know she'll be there? And yes I will do my report after my long planned trip.

Thanks for advance!I always thought the looking around in different bordellos was part of the fun of the hobby. But maybe that is just me?

In any case, ost of the major bordellos have at least one or two black girls. You can always call them up and make a reservation. This is common practice. If you can swing an escort (at your hotel) there is an escort agency that specialises in black women.

http://www.ebonypearls.de/

You can also try Gina's Tango Rose and smaller but nice place in Steiglitz.

http://www.ginas-tango-rosa.de/bordell_huren/hure_nutte_041.htm

You could also try Artemis. There are a number of Brazilians there with darker skin and even a couple of black girls. Just be careful if Naiomi Approaches. She has a thirst for Champagne that is hard to quench.

AM

JJJ1987
01-12-12, 22:15
Great stuff, I'm looking forward to visit this place. For new year eve (today) they have up to 10 girls.

How clean is die Wohnung, can you fuck in the main room with the TV?

Which nationality are the girls and guys (mostly German I believe) Generally pretty clean. They used towels on the beds and the beds are all leather. I think they do a good job of cleaning up before / after each party.

I don't know the nationality of the girls. Probably German, since they seemed to be able to talk to everyone except me in whatever language they were speaking in :P.


Are the guys all naked? Robes? Showers? Where do you store your clothes and valuables? Girls supply condoms?Yeah, the guys are either naked or have a towel wrapped around them. You'll see a lot of penises.

There's one shower. Not really a line to use it.

They have cubby holes for clothes. Valuables are stored in a safe, you give it to the guy when you get there and he takes it out for you when you leave.

Condoms are supplied.

Ahaajeah
01-12-12, 23:13
I always thought the looking around in different bordellos was part of the fun of the hobby. But maybe that is just me?Well I just think I can save my time for other attractions by knowing where to go. Optimal solution for me would be a bordello with many black women to choose from. After I have filled my need for black pearls, I may do more free adventures though. I have once visited Amsterdam RLD and I like the window shopping process, but I am also keen about Berlin scene. Who knows, maybe I'll try some Gangbang places as well. Thanks for your quickie response.

Kimino
01-13-12, 10:44
We arrived at the club (Charlie and I) on Wednesday afternoon around 6pm, by taxi. The place opened this Monday, I think.

The place is a villa surrounded by a garden, to arrive to the entrance you go up some steps. We were welcomed by a big guy, kind of a bouncer (if that's the name for it) , well dressed, very polite.

A soon as we entered, another guy came up (we found out later that this guy is the boss of the Pascha clubs). We talked with the guy (actually Charlie did) and we asked how things worked, to our surprise the guy told us that we were his guests, that we could stay there how long we wished, drink and eat all we wanted, take as many girls as we wanted to the rooms and when we left we could "make an offer" paying just what we felt to.

Kind of puzzled by this, it was clear it was a promo that we found out would last just for the day. Obviously not a business model.

Anyways, we decided ti stay and entered the place. We were took to a bar area, not very big. A couple of other guys / customers were there. Behind the bar. 7/8 girls in sexy dresses but not naked were serving the drinks and asked us what we wanted.

I can't say I was comfortable in that situation but it quickly changed and I started talking to a girl that was particularly pretty and was really trying to make us feel comfortable.

I asked for a whisky and was served a brand new piccolo bottle of Jack Daniels (never saw one before, it was a 33cc Jack Daniels bottle). Charlie was served something similar.

After a while we moved from the bar to a table, with two girls and started chatting. One of the girls offered to show me around, and we went for a tour. Theres an area with a swimming pool, sauna, showers and rooms. All very nice and new.

In that area you can only go with a girl, so, If you are alone you cannot stay in the wellness but only at the bar, not a nice place to spend hours between sessions.

The girls we saw were around average Artemis level, if not lower. Nice girls but not complete stunners.

So, we chatted for a while then I asked the girl I was talking to if we could go to a room and off we went. There's no lockers or changing rooms there, you stay dressed. When you go away with a girl, you go to the room, undress, get a robe or towel, then you go with the girl to take a shower (meaning she will wait for you while you shower). You can stay in the pool together or whatever. I skipped the pool and went in the room.

BTW, my room had a tree (a real one) going through the ceiling, they built the villa (or that particular area) around it. Cool.

Anyways, I had a one hour and something session with Lana. German. 20yr. Blonde, cute. Works in Koln and was going to stay there for a couple of weeks, throughout the launch of the new club. Others girls came in from Koln.

She wouldn't deep kiss and said she didn't offer any extras. Had a nice time, BBBJ, and all the rest.

After the session, we went back to the bar area, waited a little while for Charlie to come back from the room. We were offered other stuff to drink, stayed there maybe 10min. And then decided to leave and move on to Artemis.

When exiting, we put the money that we wanted to leave in a black basket / box. Nobody checked or even looked.

They called us a taxi very politely after asking us if we had a nice time, and off we went.

So this is it.

Charlie will be able to add details to this, in particular he found out that (apart from the promo) the cost of the girls will be quite high. 110Euro for half an hour, which kind of makes very little sense if compared to Artemis.

But this is a different club, there's a VIP area above for total privacy.

Anyways, happy we went there and test it. It's a dirty job. :)

Kimino

Nille Copenhagen
01-13-12, 11:50
Kind of puzzled by this, it was clear it was a promo that we found out would last just for the day. Obviously not a business model.

Anyways, happy we went there and test it. It's a dirty job. .

KiminoCiao Kimino,

Thanks for testing out the Pascha Villa. It was positive feedback.

That was a nice promotion they have:

Fuck and drink as much as you like and pay as you like. Your stay should have cost 200+ €

It seem their concept is different than the setup in Cologne. I guess the staff and girls try to please the customers since is a new open club.

Did you discus the money-back-garanti?

Was the promotion only valid that day or was it only valid for you and Charlie?

NC

StefanP
01-13-12, 17:52
Hello good friends,

I'm using this tool all over the world. Do you have any good recommondations about Chinese girls in Berlin? Not only massage, but everything?

I promise reports after my visit in Berlin.

Kimino
01-13-12, 20:48
Ciao Kimino,

Thanks for testing out the Pascha Villa. It was positive feedback.

That was a nice promotion they have:

Fuck and drink as much as you like and pay as you like. Your stay should have cost 200+ €

It seem their concept is different than the setup in Cologne. I guess the staff and girls try to please the customers since is a new open club.

Did you discus the money-back-garanti?

Was the promotion only valid that day or was it only valid for you and Charlie?

NCCiao Nille, we calculated the same cost and left an offer about half of that. We wanted to accept the promo without taking too much advantage on it.

I didn't know about the money back guarantee and didn't ask. The promo must have been for just that day or maybe started on Monday and ended on Wednesday. I really think that it must have been for everybody because I can't imagine what criteria they could use to select who to offer the promo and who not to offer it. Plus, what could have happened if 2 guest with different treatment talked among them?

But really I don't know, I also don't fully understand the logic behind this promo.

I think it could be an interesting place for people not too much worried about paying and that prefer not to enter an fkk arena like Artemis. I don't fit there.

Someone should now go and test the place in a non promo situation and report back, maybe in some weeks time after they actually started the engine.

Ciao!

Kimino

Nullnull
01-14-12, 00:00
Hello, good friends,

I'm using this tool all over the world. Do you have any good recommondations about Chinese girls in Berlin? Not only massage, but everything?There are basically three joints for Chinese girls in Berlin:

Chinesisches Gesundheitszentrum, Hauptstrasse 113-115, 10827 Berlin.

China Angels, Kaiser-Friedrich-Strasse 57, 10627 Berlin.

Event Massagen, Torstrasse 231, 10115 Berlin.

All of them look like legitimate massage parlours from the outside, but you get FS, mostly BBBJ, sometimes CIM and AR. Most of the women working there are not really hotties but amateur housewive types in thier late 30s or 40s.

But sometimes I was lucky, especially with Event Massagen and banged a cute Chinese student girl. You may use the search engine on berlinintim (search for aisan girls) to get some more information. And better ask the girl before what is included. At Event some girls think 100 EUR is a somehow justified price for a massage plus HJ.

Rocketboy0
01-14-12, 09:14
I think it could be an interesting place for people not too much worried about paying and that prefer not to enter an fkk arena like Artemis. I don't fit there.

Someone should now go and test the place in a non promo situation and report back, maybe in some weeks time after they actually started the engine.

Ciao! KiminoWell-as it turns out, after a full debriefing of the advance recon team, and accompanied by none other than Angus (das Dude) Magee, we decided it was time for our own Pascha Patrol yesterday night.

Pascha is trying to be upscale, but it has this odd low market advertising quality about it-garish signage on the outside of the villa, etc. Angus reports that the German fora or press describe wrangles with the anti-brothel neighbors, and the Pascha (Berlin) website seems to have changed to understate its true purpose, in an absurdly unsuccessful fashion but perhaps enough to satisfy various lawyers and prosecutors. The prices are way more than Artemis or private flats, and no compelling evidence that it is justified unless I guess one is there for the booze. However, after checking in our coats (elegant well worn ski parkas) we were informed that Promo Days are over. While Pascha is a hop away from the Olympic Stadium S-Bahn, and easy to find, it was even easier and far more sensible to just leave. So others will need report on the full monty, at full price.

3 S-bahn stops and maybe 7 minutes away, I returned to Artemis, breaking yet again one of my new rules not to return for a long while , and was consoled by the spectacular thick-lipped busty Hungarian blond Brigitta. She has a bit of engineering (but very well done), some tats, but a passionate hotty, good fun, can (as Willy Nelson once said) suck a golf ball through a garden hose, and very recommended.

Angus Magee
01-14-12, 12:16
Well I just think I can save my time for other attractions by knowing where to go. Optimal solution for me would be a bordello with many black women to choose from. After I have filled my need for black pearls, I may do more free adventures though. I have once visited Amsterdam RLD and I like the window shopping process, but I am also keen about Berlin scene. Who knows, maybe I'll try some Gangbang places as well. Thanks for your quickie response.In Berlin the clubs and bordellos are spread all over the city. It is not like Frankfurt or other German cities that have a concentrated RLD with Laufhaus and a floor full of black hookers. You really do have to use the internet or do a lot of travelling. If you have not done so have a look at my blog for it does give a bit of an idea of what is available in the various districts.

Personally I would recommend sticking to the bigger bordellos (Liberty, MR, KD, Royal, SP, VK) , seeing who you like on the web page and then making a booking by phone. As for one stop shopping convenience / comfort you really can not beat Artemis. There may not be a huge selection there but who is there will likely be pretty good. Just remember to chat a bit before you commit to a session and to use your gut feeling.

If she is actually still working there Naomi (different one than Artemis) would maybe be a good option.

http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/Naomi.html

AM

Nullnull
01-14-12, 13:26
Hello!

I am newbie in this business, and I'm going to Berlin next summer. I really would like to try some black girls (with curves) there. I know Liberty has Linda, but that seems like a long shot, when only one girl would be acceptable. Is it so that I have to run to different bordellos to see if the one girl I want is available or is there place where more black girls offer ther services? Is it possible to reserve the girl in advance, so that I know she'll be there? And yes I will do my report after my long planned trip.

Thanks for advance!Sorry, seems that all the black only bordellos (driven by some strange African mamasan) are gone. If you wouldn't mind to have a few fairly-skinned Latinas in the mix then you may have a look at Toy, Erich-Weinert-Strasse 5, 10439 Berlin. But don't be too disappointed, the bordello is a real shit hole and quality of the girls differs, most of them big mama type, but once in while you can find a young slender black hottie.

In Liberty there are almost always a few black girls working, some of them really nice. And have a look at the smaller bordellos in Berlin-Steglitz such as Ginas Tango Rosa or Monas Roses (both close to the underground station Rathaus Station). I had nice encounters with black girls there. Check their websites and call in advance.

Kimino
01-14-12, 16:50
and was consoled by the spectacular thick-lipped busty Hungarian blond Brigitta.With a tatoo covering almost all the left arm?

If it's her, I totally agree, she is absolutely great. Went with her Wednesday but couldn't remember the name.

Ciao!

Kimino

Customx
01-14-12, 17:13
Any suggestions as to where to find submissive girls?

Rocketboy0
01-14-12, 18:00
With a tatoo covering almost all the left arm? If it's her, I totally agree, she is absolutely great. Went with her Wednesday but couldn't remember the name.

Ciao! KiminoThe very same. What would you do without me, to help you remember their names.

Angus Magee
01-14-12, 18:04
Any suggestions as to where to find submissive girls?No personal experience (not really my thing) but this place is where the Germans go

http://www.sklavia-berlin.de/einleitung.html

It is pretty down market as far as I can tell but the service is reported to be quite good, depending a bit on the girl. Keep in mind that AO (bareback) is offered so keep it covered or pass it by.

Other than that there are a couple of more mainstream dungeons that offer subs.

http://www.hartoderherzlich.de/

And Liberty has a number of girls that offer sub service. One I have visited on a number of occasions (for regular sessions but I could always see that she has a submissive tendency) is Romy.

http://www.libertyberlin.de/romy.html

If you scroll down on the website you will see a number of other girls (Mia, Bianca) who do sub sessions. Unfortunately those pictures are protected (Jungenschutz) and can only be accessed by filling in the German I'd number off their I'd cards.

AM

The Limey
01-14-12, 18:30
First I visited Kamilla Dee:

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/s.rls/nina-e.htm

It's a mystery why so many write good reports from this place. I have visited this place several times every time I'm in Berlin, hoping to meet some of the ladies that look great on their website. I have never come on right time or is the photographs on the evidence from the past? I have therefore not yet had a session with some of the girls there. They have simply not been for my taste.I think that KD was one of the best places for a while but then, some time in the middle of last year the day-to-day management changed, and attitudes became less client-friendly. It is still possible to have a good time there if you know one of the "old school" girls. But KD also has a highly bureaucratic appointments system which works against guys who are newcomers to the scene.

Customx
01-14-12, 20:26
Thanks Angus. As usual most helpful. Is Liberty the only.

Top tier brothel that offers this?

QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1237273]No personal experience (not really my thing) but this place is where the Germans go.

http://www.sklavia-berlin.de/einleitung.html

It is pretty down market as far as I can tell but the service is reported to be quite good, depending a bit on the girl. Keep in mind that AO (bareback) is offered so keep it covered or pass it by.

Other than that there are a couple of more mainstream dungeons that offer subs.

http://www.hartoderherzlich.de/

And Liberty has a number of girls that offer sub service. One I have visited on a number of occasions (for regular sessions but I could always see that she has a submissive tendency) is Romy.

http://www.libertyberlin.de/romy.html

If you scroll down on the website you will see a number of other girls (Mia, Bianca) who do sub sessions. Unfortunately those pictures are protected (Jungenschutz) and can only be accessed by filling in the German I'd number off their I'd cards.

AM[/QUOTE]

Angus Magee
01-14-12, 20:32
Thanks Angus. As usual most helpful. Is Liberty the only.

Top tier brothel that offers this?I know KD has an S&M room so I imagine they offer it. I imagine any bordello would have at least one or two girls who offer the service. The trick is finding someone who is good at it. For that you need to do the research and the leg work.

AM

Rocketboy0
01-14-12, 20:42
I think that KD was one of the best places for a while but then, some time in the middle of last year the day-to-day management changed,Really don't understand how some people have these problems. KD was and is one of the best, friendliest around. It is simply that a fair number of their girls (being quite hot and skilled) are in high demand. Once, maybe last I dunno Nov, I just turned up having seen an intriguing new recruit on Ye Olde Interweb site, only to find my intended was booked out the whole day. I asked the Haus Fraulein (a young thing very friendly and accommodating whom I would do in a second if she would take a walk on the dark side) could she text my mobile should anything change? 2 hrs later she did-an appointment had cancelled, and within 30 min, the deal was sealed. Could not have been easier.

And it is not like I am such a regular there, and I am neither the most refined nor the most German gentleman. The KD management was and is simply courteous, punctual, friendly, and I had a fine session. A couple of my all time favs have based out of KD (sadly having moved on or gotten married so not in the lineup anymore). In general, it is a great place, it seems to throw in a fair bit as standard (if you ask) vs extras, and is in high demand by the locals, for good reason. You just need to plan ahead, with the obvious risks that being a small venue, sessions can sometimes get extended, or girls sometimes are late or change their schedules or minds. As I have posted before, some intervals and days are better than others. The difference at Artemis, where such things go on as well, is that it is easier to hang out and wait, or grab some Plan B walking by. All this is part of the bordello business model and experience, and you have to accept and go with it. And no, I am not on their payroll.

Bobo.fr
01-14-12, 22:09
.etc. I just turned up having seen an intriguing new recruit .etc .Would you mind telling who she was? Thanks.


.etc.(a young thing very friendly and accommodating whom I would do in a second if she would take a walk on the dark side) .etc .Dana (black hair, fluent English)?

Cahill
01-14-12, 23:14
Visiting Berlin in February and would like to meet an attractive open minded escort between about 32 and 45 years old for a day. Perhaps 2. Act as tour guide.

Rocketboy0
01-15-12, 08:01
Would you mind telling who she was? Thanks.

Dana (black hair, fluent English)?Salut Bobo. Felicia. She has been there a while but I just resisted.

2eme I believe is correct-at least the description though I am not sure about the name.

I actually did ask, mais pas de chance. She is actually not my type, but has the old je ne sais quoi big time.

Apparently, I am not alone in this.

Bobo.fr
01-15-12, 17:03
Salut Bobo. Felicia. She has been there a while but I just resisted.

2eme I believe is correct-at least the description though I am not sure about the name.

I actually did ask, mais pas de chance. She is actually not my type, but has the old je ne sais quoi big time.

Apparently, I am not alone in this.Thanks Rocketboy0 for your answer.

KD's Felicia :

1) Personnally, I find that she's prettier than on KD's photos.

2) Personnally, I think that she's among the prettiest KD's ladies (I can not say she's the prettiest just because I didn't meet all KD's ladies, unfortunately!)

3) Unfortunately, she didn't want to spend time with me again : http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1216966&viewfull=1#post1216966

Rocketboy0
01-15-12, 18:21
Thanks Rocketboy0 for your answer. Unfortunately, she didn't want to spend time with me again.Bobo. I did recall your experience, afterwards. While she is surely a looker, she seemed a bit ethereal with me. There, but sort of not there. You know as a seasoned monger, you cannot take these things too personally, and I hope you do not. Sounds like you developed a little thing for her. Always a risk. Il faut garder une peu de la distance , n'est pas? Women change their minds-it happens. Felicia is quite young (really too young for me) and is still no doubt in flux about what she likes and does not like.

Anyway, my point was and is KD has been and is a very good place if you just do a little planning and understand the rules of the bordello game. While of course "a place" has to be judged a bit by the girls they attract,, and your experiences, there is a difference between the two. Over the years, I´ve had some great times there, especially with Nathalie and Fiona, and some others, and have always found it clean (the upstairs rooms are really nice), friendly, & well run..

Bobo.fr
01-16-12, 01:30
Visiting Berlin in February and would like to meet an attractive open minded escort between about 32 and 45 years old for a day. Perhaps 2. Act as tour guide.Hi Cahill, KD's Nathalie and Fiona mentionned (see below) by Rocketboy0 may fit your request.


. I´ve had some great times there, especially with Nathalie and Fiona, and some others, .etc.
Thanks for your advices, Rocketboy0.
As I often said to the ladies (when I had opportunities), on the bed , all of them were my lovers but as they were NOT exclusive lovers , no danger for them nor for me !!

Toodeloo
01-17-12, 12:38
Hello, everyone, and thaks for loads of good advices. I'm having my first trip to Berlin next week, and Kaufmich. Com have a lot of girls advertising. The question is however; Are the rewievs at kaufmich reliable? I notice that very many girls have just 5-ståare rewievs. Is it possible to cheat with the rewievs?

Thanks

Toodeloo

Member #4626
01-17-12, 15:06
Can anyone please help with the translation?

Some of the girls in berlinintim webpage writes following text about the price:

Mein Honorar beträgt komplett.

150- Euro die Stunde

Does it mean that all extra is included in that price?

Gergiev
01-18-12, 03:15
Can anyone please help with the translation?

Some of the girls in berlinintim webpage writes following text about the price:

Mein Honorar beträgt komplett.

150- Euro die Stunde

Does it mean that all extra is included in that price?Komplett is a professional term that usually is taken to mean that BJ and sex in various positions is included.

In my experience, that wouldn't include the kind of "exotic" extras (CIM, etc) that get discussed around here.

And whether the BJ was BB would also need to be clarified in advance, I would suggest.

VG

Fritobugger
01-18-12, 05:26
Hello, everyone, and thaks for loads of good advices. I'm having my first trip to Berlin next week, and Kaufmich. Com have a lot of girls advertising. The question is however; Are the rewievs at kaufmich reliable? I notice that very many girls have just 5-ståare rewievs. Is it possible to cheat with the rewievs?

Thanks

ToodelooI was pleased with my results from Kaufmich. I had to sort through a few but at the end of the visit I was pretty darn happy.

Rocketboy0
01-18-12, 12:04
I was pleased with my results from Kaufmich. I had to sort through a few but at the end of the visit I was pretty darn happy.My experience is just the opposite. Pictures often not real, lots of up-selling, dodgy locations. On the veracity of reviews, well if you have to ask, you can imagine the opportunities for "truthiness".

Angus has access to the German forums and perhaps you can increase the odds by reading there. Obviously all this also partly a matter of luck and a taste thing. But really, why all the hassles when so much opportunity awaits elsewhere? Same argument applies I guess to those who enjoy streetwalkers - (w)hore ses for courses.

As I have posted before, inde's are a lot of work, a lot of time, lots of wild goose chases, very hit and miss. Some people enjoy the treasure hunt, the thrill of discovering a diamond in the rough etc, the small chance you will find a true combi Porn Princess & GFE who will swallow your toes for 50 EUR per day, and that's fine if you need these quests. IMHO-on balance a waste of time, for dubious gains vs all the sure things, and due diligence already completed, at the private bordellos. Of course there will be exceptions, but on balance, bordellos make more sense, especially for newbies (new to Berlin vs new to mongering), and those on a time constraint.

Eurodon
01-18-12, 15:04
The question is however; Are the rewievs at kaufmich reliable? I notice that very many girls have just 5-ståare rewievs. Is it possible to cheat with the rewievs?Most of the reviews don't seem to be very reliable. It's very easy to cheat with the reviews. You just have to open a account and give a five-star-rrecommendation to yourself.

Although you may be lucky with the girls who have more than 10 or 20 reviews and are around for more than 6 months. I'd nevertheless advise you to crosscheck the reviewers, counting on your common sense as to how much of them could be trusted.

Pahapoiss
01-22-12, 13:33
Hello everyone,

I've been lurking here for a while and now have a question: Has anyone seen a spunky petite dark haired Romanian who went under the name of Mary and said she was 19 in l'amour2a since last January? I went shortly before Christmas a year ago and got the ÜberGFE++ treatment from her: She went out of her way to get me a subsidized drink (the girls have to buy their own drinks unless a customer pays for it, but only fork out 3 Euros for a long drink instead of 10 or whatever punters are charged, don't remember) and said she had to fight for it with the bar girl since customers are supposed to pay for the girls' drinks, not vice versa. Her manners were attentive, she complimented me on my looks, and even the threat of killing me if I ignored her CIM prohibition came across witty and good natured. Though we hadn't agreed on 69, I flipped her around and there was no hint of objection. Unfortunately I was a bit tired that night, not in great shape, hence the overall sex experience not being stellar but merely deeply, sweetly memorable was presumably all my fault. In fact, the whole of her behaviour triggered in me the (paranoid? Sober?) thought that she was leveraging to find a John, and I perhaps looked like a possible candidate, to help her quit the game. She told me about her pre-game ambitions (music, guitar, singing) and even obliquely, darkly hinted that getting into it hadn't entirely been her own idea but then added "now I like it". Damn the girl has bewitched me if I still think of her like that a year on. She said she wasn't going to be at work until after her Christmas trip to see her mom in Italy, but then I didn't manage to go back the next 3 months, and by April her profile had disappeared from l'amour2a's web site. If someone is aware of any new place she might be working at now, I'd be very grateful to hear about it.

PS: It seems that whenever I'm really blown away, the girl was either Czech, Romanian or Ukrainian. The seasoned Kraut chicks here in Berlin, at Artemis for instance, don't do it for me.

Angus Magee
01-23-12, 09:52
. and by April her profile had disappeared from l'amour2a's web site. If someone is aware of any new place she might be working at now, I'd be very grateful to hear about it.Hi,

I do not think your chances of finding here are great. The only thing I can suggest is that you have a look here,

http://www.klix37.de/

It is a small place in the north of Berlin (Reinikendorf) that does seem to specialize in younger Romanian girls. You might be lucky and find here there. What you do once you find her is up to you but for that I also do not like your chances. Best, as I am sure you realise, is to keep it as a nice memory and move on. But I do understand how some of these girls can get under one's skin.

AM

Pahapoiss
01-23-12, 22:58
Hi,

I do not think your chances of finding here are great. The only thing I can suggest is that you have a look here,

http://www.klix37.de/

It is a small place in the north of Berlin (Reinikendorf) that does seem to specialize in younger Romanian girls. You might be lucky and find here there. What you do once you find her is up to you but for that I also do not like your chances. Best, as I am sure you realise, is to keep it as a nice memory and move on. But I do understand how some of these girls can get under one's skin.

AMThanks! That place looks interesting. And yes, I do realize of course. That said, I've had this sort of intensity maybe half a dozen times over the last 15 years and never ran with it. Twice in Butterfly on Danziger Str. In Prenzlauer Berg: One time a blonde who's smile and figure reminded me of Beyonce was ready to go on a date but I didn't clinch it for that reason: I didn't like my chances (years later the bar girl told me that Diana was back in the Ukraine, with a child and her visa in Germany expired) ; then much later a short haired stylish Russian grabbed me with arrogance: "So you're a big baby then drinking beer from a bottle?". And subsequently being phenomenally dirty. I was too drunk to even clearly see the display of my phone to correctly to type in the number she gave me after I'd been paying her 3x times in a row and the bar staff had gone to sleep in front when they finally kicked me out around 6 in the morning (2 weeks later she'd quit working the place, being a notch above the Butterfly league I thought, or anyway too ambitious for that kind of venue). Another time way back in a ratty, sleazy place in Wedding that was buzzing with outrageously hot young Ukrainians for a few months in the late 90's (converted to a tanning studio when I last went past) , where they showed me a broom chamber with a cot and a vacuum cleaner in the corner and I nearly declined to have the sexual encounter that's now in my top three of all times. Dunno. I always kick myself for not trying harder to follow up on such experiences.

ADObserver1
01-24-12, 18:31
Just back from a week in mongering in Berlin. Thanks for all the helpful posts. A quick review, from a Berlin first timer's perspective.

I started at Erlebniswohung. As previous posters have noted, the GB scene is not for everybody, but I do like it. Erleb was easy to find, right across from Karl Marx Strasse you-bahn station. Ring the bell and walk up one flight of stairs. Hosts very pleasant. Clothes in changing room and towels available. Two rooms with non-stop action. Girls were nicer than the pictures, including a couple of stunners and a couple who were wildly into it. Anike, in particular. A-cups, who enjoying sucking off several guys at once and having them cum on her face. There was a a young blonde with beautiful full breasts-maybe Erlina from the site? She mainly did blow jobs, CIM, but let a few guys fuck her, too.

But all the girls were accomodating and friendly. Between sets it was easy to relax in the sinner room or sauna. For 100 euro it was a great way to spend an evening. I showed up around 5 pm on a Saturday and the place was in full swing. An amatuer couple even showed. Note: By 10 pm it was dying out. It's an early crowd.

I actually went back on Wednesday and the scene was even better. A couple of more pretty girls. The girls really aim to please. And one interetsing moment: two of the girls who worked Saturday stopped in on what was clearly their off night to use the sauna. If nothing else it suggests it's a friendly place to work, which is always a nice touch. I really liked the place. But, again, maybe not for everybody.

I also included two stops at Artemis. I won't bore everybody with my zeal for FKK, but if you don't live in Germany these places really are paradise. Artemis is a bit overpriced with an 80 euro entrance fee and minimum 60 euro for 30 minute, but it's still the best experience in the world to visit an FKK. There were a few pushy girls and not every time was GFE, but there were a few really beautiful women and I was more than happy to spend a day fucking and laying around the sauna. Bring a book. Make a day of it. It doesn't get any better.

Since I was visiting from a world with few pleasures, I took one night to try Caligula, a flat rate place. It was a typical bar setting. For 100 euro, drinks are free. At 5 pm on a weekday it was basically me and four or five other guys. The girls were 5 to 6s, all eastern european with one or two fatties. After the othe rplace sit wasn't great, but I was more than willing to partake. You see a girl you want to fuck, you tap her on the shoulder and away you go. Menu with prices for extras pasted in the rooms. Free drinks make it a good deal, but there is nothing to do between sessions except drink. If you're with a buddy it might be fun to hang out, but it get's pretty old to sit around watching bored Romanian girls gyrate on stage while you wait for your dick to revive. Two sessions and I wa soutta there.

I also visited Royal, which was a great experience. Very classy, high-end atmosphere. Selection of girls was beautiful, with a couple of 9s. Settled on Maria, a Czech girl (God, I love Czech girls).80 euro for 30 minutes plus 20 euro for kissing. She was great, fun, friendly, laughing and playing. She ended up watching the clock. After two positions she said there wasn't enough time for doggy. But I didn't care as she gave me a great handjob. I can still feel her nails on my balls.

I love Berlin.

Jerrylee
01-25-12, 15:42
Apologies for a late report!

I visited LA FOLIE club on a Wednesday night in October 2011. Arrived at 2100 h. Ten women and 4 male guests were present, but more guests arrived in the course of the evening.

I would rate 50 percent of the ladies as 'not my taste', the rest ranges from 'perhaps' to 'YES PLEASE'.

While I was sipping my soda water (I came with my car) , I watched the girls and tried to find out with whom I should get in contact. Suddenly, a fantastic young blonde girl entered the club and disappeared in the staff's dressing room. After a while she reappeared and turned out to be – a waitress!

What a pity, because this young lady looked great in her red fishnet top and I think most of the men stared at her naked breasts. But as a waitress, she's 'off limits'.

Okay, now I had to concentrate on 3 or 4 other girls. Whom to choose?

Only now I spotted a well-built blonde MILF in the section across the bar. Unfortunately, she was in a conversation with another guest. Immediately fascinated, I watched this awesome looking woman for quite some time. Did she just wink at me? I was not sure.

I overheard some admiring comments from the guys beside of me – seems I was not the only man interested in the blonde. But I had a few eye contacts with her, and it was now clear to me: I want this girl or nobody else!

About one hour later, the lady came over to me and apologized that she could not come earlier. Her conversation with the other guest was 'nothing serious'.

I bought her a drink (piccolo) , we cuddled a lot, and then we went to a ZIMMER. I don't want to go into details, but it was a real GFE!

Unfortunately, she told me that she is not very often in this club, so the chances of meeting her again are slim. I am not a Berliner and visit the LA FOLIE only three or four times a year. She refused to give me her phone number (I had in mind to meet her again outside of the club).

(Forgot her name, but it was a French name starting with the letter G: Genevieve? Geraldine? Gabrielle? Sure hope to meet her again next time.)

Meanwhile, I was tired and left the club. Total cost: about 115 Euro (forgot the exact amount).

Summary: Once again great experience!

Zapzapzap
01-26-12, 15:11
Any experiences (besides Lucy) with the new klein&zierlich lineup?

Thank you!

Hitto
01-30-12, 00:10
Hello,

I'm passing in Berlino so I'm search some bordel or something, near the Hauptbahnhof central station. Have you some info?

Thanks to all

Angus Magee
01-30-12, 10:09
Hello,

I'm passing in Berlino so I'm search some bordel or something, near the Hauptbahnhof central station. Have you some info?

Thanks to allIt depends upon your definition of close. Within easy walking distance all I know of is this massage studio.

http://www.relaxmassagen.de/index.htm

As far as I understand some girl here just do massage, some will blow you, and some will do full sex. Not really sure how you determine which with do what but I guess asking is okay.

AM

Hitto
01-30-12, 15:15
It depends upon your definition of close. Within easy walking distance all I know of is this massage studio.

http://www.relaxmassagen.de/index.htm

As far as I understand some girl here just do massage, some will blow you, and some will do full sex. Not really sure how you determine which with do what but I guess asking is okay.

AMHello,

I see the site, I have undestand that some girl make only massage. Now I'm search something else, also a little further.

On internet I have not found anything.

Edie72
01-30-12, 22:48
Just back from a week in mongering in Berlin. Thanks for all the helpful posts. A quick review, from a Berlin first timer's perspective.

I started at Erlebniswohung. As previous posters have noted, the GB scene is not for everybody, but I do like it. Erleb was easy to find, right across from Karl Marx Strasse you-bahn station. Ring the bell and walk up one flight of stairs. Hosts very pleasant. Clothes in changing room and towels available. Two rooms with non-stop action. Girls were nicer than the pictures, including a couple of stunners and a couple who were wildly into it. Anike, in particular. A-cups, who enjoying sucking off several guys at once and having them cum on her face. There was a a young blonde with beautiful full breasts-maybe Erlina from the site? She mainly did blow jobs, CIM, but let a few guys fuck her, too.

I love Berlin.Hi, I have some questions. The knowing of german language is a must, or you can handle with english? It is a minimum ratio of 2:1 (like Lady Marmalade Parties eq)? Sometimes the number of girls can be higher thean the customers or fair equal (I'am asking that because 3man / 1girl seems to be a little too crowd for my taste). Thank you.

Wanking
01-31-12, 00:54
I started at Erlebniswohung. As previous posters have noted, the GB scene is not for everybody, but I do like it. Erleb was easy to find, right across from Karl Marx Strasse you-bahn station. Ring the bell and walk up one flight of stairs. Hosts very pleasant. Clothes in changing room and towels available. Two rooms with non-stop action. Girls were nicer than the pictures, including a couple of stunners and a couple who were wildly into it. Anike, in particular. A-cups, who enjoying sucking off several guys at once and having them cum on her face. There was a a young blonde with beautiful full breasts-maybe Erlina from the site? She mainly did blow jobs, CIM, but let a few guys fuck her, too.

But all the girls were accomodating and friendly. Between sets it was easy to relax in the sinner room or sauna. For 100 euro it was a great way to spend an evening. I showed up around 5 pm on a Saturday and the place was in full swing. An amatuer couple even showed. Note: By 10 pm it was dying out. It's an early crowd.

I actually went back on Wednesday and the scene was even better. A couple of more pretty girls. The girls really aim to please. And one interetsing moment: two of the girls who worked Saturday stopped in on what was clearly their off night to use the sauna. If nothing else it suggests it's a friendly place to work, which is always a nice touch. I really liked the place. But, again, maybe not for everybody.Also the website is very informative and in English. I hope to visit Berlin this summer and would like to visit this club forsure.

http://www.erlebniswohnung.com/en/

CaptRenno
01-31-12, 03:28
I posted a message in the FKK FAQ topic of the Germany FKK forum about my Google map of famous FKKs and saunaclubs.

http://g.co/maps/5tgjq

As I noted there, while doing some research for an upcoming trip to Germany, I decided to make a map showing only the most famous FKK clubs and saunaclubs, I. E, the ones that guys are most likely to seek out during a short trip to Germany. Another map shows virtually all the FKKs, partytreffs, brothels and other sex clubs in Germany.

I decided to add some famous brothels to my map, so that's why I'm posting here. From Berlin, I added Kamilla la Dee, Salon Prestige, Van Kampen and Royal. These brothels may or may not be the "best" brothels but they are the ones most frequently mentioned here and elsewhere.

Let me know if you think any other Berlin brothels belong on the map. If you are familiar with famous brothels in other cities, send me a PM and I will consider adding them to the map. So far I have listed only one other brothel outside Berlin, Traum-Paradies Brothel in Troisdorf (Cologne).

Charlie 123
01-31-12, 16:11
Any experiences (besides Lucy) with the new klein&zierlich lineup?

Thank you!Ramona and Anna were both working at KZ last year. Search my posts for a review. Clara is new this year. I might well give her a test run next week. If you beat me to it then please post here and let us know whether she is up to their usual high standard.

Best.

C

Angus Magee
01-31-12, 17:15
Hello,

I see the site, I have undestand that some girl make only massage. Now I'm search something else, also a little further.

On internet I have not found anything.L'Amour 2a, a respectable if not high end bordello, can be reached by S Bahn, bus and a short walk in about 20-25 minutes if you can make your connections.

http://www.lamour2a.de/index.php?id=girls&lang=de

You might consider this.

AM

Angus Magee
01-31-12, 17:19
Clara is new this year. I might well give her a test run next week. If you beat me to it then please post here and let us know whether she is up to their usual high standard.A good friend of mine, not an ISG poster and not a real experienced monger (so I do not now just how much he put her through the paces) saw her just before Christmas. He reported as to being very satisfied with his experience.

So there is that. Oh he told me, when I mentioned that her pics did not do much for me, that she looks significantly better in the flesh.

AM

Hitto
02-01-12, 14:56
L'Amour 2a, a respectable if not high end bordello, can be reached by S Bahn, bus and a short walk in about 20-25 minutes if you can make your connections.

http://www.lamour2a.de/index.php?id=girls&lang=de

You might consider this.

AMHello,

I was just looking at this, I think it's a good idea.

Thanks

LilJoey
02-05-12, 10:50
I posted this on the Artemis thread, but then thought it might get to the right people better on the general Berlin thread. Apologies to those who start to read it a second time before they realize it's the same question. I would appreciate the advice and input of the Berlin veterans on where is the best location in terms of the hottest looking lineup for punting on a Friday morning between the hours of 10:00 AM and 12noon in Berlin, and the logistics of doing it by public transportation from / to Tegel airport?

Logistics: My flight arrives into Tegel airport (TXL) AT 9:00 AM on Friday, February 17. I am currently scheduled to depart from Tegel airport the same day at 1:50 PM. I am assuming that I will be able to leave the airport by around 9:30am, having gone through customs and border controls, and that I will have to be back to the airport by about 12noon which is allowing just under 2 hours before my outgoing flight at 1:50pm. As far as I can tell from analyzing the travel options using the bahn. De website, I can see that it's about a 20 to 30 minute trip from the Tegel airport to a number of the highly recommended punting locations in Berlin. For example, I see that there are buses (the X9 and the 109 bus lines) which leave the Tegel airport station every 10 minutes or so and it's about a 7 minute ride to the S-Bahn station at Jungfernheide, from which one can get the S42 S-Bahn train which will take one to: (a) the S-Bahn Westkreuz station which is adjacent to Artemis, (b) the Heidelberger Platz station which is adjacent to bordello Van Kampen and also 1km (about 10-12 minute walk) from bordello Kamilla Dee, or (c) the Bundesplatz station adjacent to bordello Royal, all three bordellos of which have gotten good recommendations on this board. And the trip back to the Tegel airport at about 11:30am is just as easily made on the S-Bahn and Tegeler Weg bus to Tegel Airport in about the same amount of time as the outbound trip.

QUESTION 1: Have I overlooked anything, insofar as the underlying logistics of a short romp in Berlin on a Friday morning from Tegel airport, and getting back on time for my flight?

I assume most would agree that an hour session with a hottie in Berlin is worth going into town for, instead of simply killing 5 hours in the airport. I would try to sleep in the airport so I would have more energy for Friday night's activities, but I have never been successful at falling asleep on an airport floor, (although I was toying with the idea of taking along a sleeping bag roll and trying to do so this time.)

QUESTION 2: My question is where is the best place, accesible easily from Tegel airport, that I should go to, that has the best line up on Friday morning even at 10:00am or 10:30am?

Artemis first opens at 11:00 am, and it would be my assumption that at exactly 11:00am, their best line up is not yet present, and will filter in later as the day progresses. So the 200 Euro cost of an hour at Artemis at 11:00am did not seem worth it. I will visit there another time, I guess.

I looked at the websites for the Van Kampen, Kamilla Dee and Royal bordellos, and I simply cannot tell from the pictures posted if I am likely to find a 9 or a 10, or even an 8 level beautiful girl in those places, despite the recommendations that they sometimes have good girls that I have read on this thread. I am wondering whether these bordellos might also not have their best girls available so early at their 10:00am in the morning opening time either. But at least if I don't like what I see at one bordello, I can leave and go to the next place, time permitting. This is what I will probably do, unless someone here on this thread can guide me on a course which they know from experience will produce a better result.

Another consideration is the price at these bordellos of 150 Euros for 1 hour. Unless I can actually find a 9 at the bordellos, or maybe an 8, I feel it would not be worth it for me to do a session in Berlin. The reason is that later on the same day, Friday evening, (unless I change my flights because of weather related considerations and fly to Frankfurt instead) , I am planning to be in Rio strip club in Kiev where I will definitely be able to pull out a girl who is a 9 at the rate of $300/3hours which is $100 or 76 Euro per hour. That's half the price of a girl in Berlin. So unless the girl in Berlin is really hot, I will try to control myself and choose to simply wait until the night time when I can play with Kiev's hotties. But on the other hand, if I can succeed in finding a very hot girl in Berlin at one of the bordellos, I am quite willing to pay double the cost of a Kiev hottie, because it is a worthwhile alternative entertainment to killing 5 hours in the Tegel airport torturing myself trying unsuccessfully to sleep, while thinking about all the hot pussy in Berlin that I will not even taste. LOL.

So, what does the collective wisdom of the veteran's on this forum advise? Stay in the airport and get some possible sleep? Or do I have a good chance of finding a 9 level beauty at 10:00am in the morning at a Berlin bordello? And if so, which bordello is the best bet at which to do so?

Any good insights would be appreciated.

LJ

Angus Magee
02-05-12, 13:12
Any good insights would be appreciated.

LJHi LJ,

I would say that you are right to knock Artemis off the table. Opening time is just too early to guarantee, or at least be reasonably assured of, a real "A" lister being ready to go.

But then at 10:00 a. M. Anywhere that you go the pickings are liable t be pretty slim. You can not really know this without visiting but my experience is the hotter girls generally work the later shift. Of the bordellos you mention I would be inclined to visit them in this order. Try Royal first, then VK and then maybe, if you have not found anything and still have the time, KD. Royal is a very short distance (one or two SBahn stops) from VK and both are within one minutes walk of the station. So you could reasonably expect to vist one, sit through a parade and if no girl appeals try the other. KD is a bit of a longer walk from an SBahn but maybe still doable. Of the two Royal and VK you can, I think, be pretty sure of finding a hot girl. If she is a "9" by your standards I can not say.

As another option I can also suggest these two places which are much closer to Tegal.

http://www.klix37.de/

http://www.intime-modelle.de/girls.html

Both places are a little more down market than Royal & VK but have been known to contain some gems. Klix is a little rougher than Salon Saphire but then neither does it really have SS's pretentions of being a "high class" brothel. And both are about a third less expensive than the ones you mention. I just point them out as an alternative as it has been my experience that one can find some real nice ladies at such addresses if one is lucky. And seeing as you will be in Kiev later in the day, what have you really got to lose.

What ever happens please do keep us informed.

AM

Nullnull
02-05-12, 13:51
I posted this on the Artemis thread, but then thought it might get to the right people better on the general Berlin thread. Apologies to those who start to read it a second time before they realize it's the same question. I would appreciate the advice and input of the Berlin veterans on where is the best location in terms of the hottest looking lineup for punting on a Friday morning between the hours of 10:00 AM and 12noon in Berlin, and the logistics of doing it by public transportation from / to Tegel airport?

Any good insights would be appreciated.

LJI second the recommendation of.

www.klix37.de

While being far from upscale it very often has young eastern european hotties in the lineup (for example body wise this Lisa is a 8-9). At KD I once experienced the most disappointing lineup of any upscale Berlin bordello. So I would call maybe VK, Royal and Liberty from the airport to see who is available and if nothing is really alluring try the cheaper option at Klix.

LilJoey
02-05-12, 18:21
At KD I once experienced the most disappointing lineup of any upscale Berlin bordello. So I would call maybe VK, Royal and Liberty from the airport to see who is available and if nothing is really alluring try the cheaper option at Klix.
my experience is the hotter girls generally work the later shift. Of the bordellos you mention I would be inclined to visit them in this order. Try Royal first, then VK and then maybe, if you have not found anything and still have the time, KD. *** Of the two Royal and VK you can, I think, be pretty sure of finding a hot girl. If she is a "9" by your standards I can not say.Hi AM / Nullnull, thanks for the feedback, guys. I will probably follow AM's efficient order of visitation. It's interesting, Nullnull, that you say KD had the disapppointing line up. The KD website pictures (Marianna, Betty, Lea, Penny and Annabel, to name a few, have pretty appealing faces and nice bodies) are far more inviting than the pics on the Royal and VK websites. Salon Saphir has too many fat ladies on their website for me to even take a chance there. But I have become conditioned to not rely on website pictures, and value on the ground intel more. I don't think I will bother calling ahead for that very reason, as I must see the girls first hand to know what's alluring to me. I can't decide from pics that don't show the face. If a girl has a very pretty face, it is much more of a draw for me, and I am willing to cut her some slack on her body. But just looking at the photos of the bodies with their heads not in the photos, or faces obscured, there were very few whose bodies were inspiring on the Royal and VK websites.

I probably will find a girl at one of those bordellos that, upon the sight of her, it will cause my juices to flow and my balls to yearn for that wonderful release we all know so well. I know in advance that I will not be able to remain so objectively discerning as to still distinguish between an 8 or a 9, or care about the difference, since at that point I will not be thinking with the head between my shoulders, but rather with the head between my loins. So it always is when you go without release for a week, which is my practice in advance of a sex weekend. It's the truth of the old adage,"don't go food shopping when you're hungry" at play in a sexual setting. But no matter, that's all part of the fun. And if I take the edge off in Berlin in the morning, it will only help me do a better job in the evening, of lasting long enough to produce that wondrous look of awe in the eyes of a young twenty year old beauty in Kiev, who was more used to felling men quickly at her feet, victims of her great beauty.

Happy Hunting,

LJ

Diet Coke
02-05-12, 18:33
I second the recommendation of.

www.klix37.de

While being far from upscale it very often has young eastern european hotties in the lineup (for example body wise this Lisa is a 8-9). At KD I once experienced the most disappointing lineup of any upscale Berlin bordello. So I would call maybe VK, Royal and Liberty from the airport to see who is available and if nothing is really alluring try the cheaper option at Klix.Nothing on their website about price. Any recent info available on pricing there. Looking forward to Berlin visit in April.

Rick

Angus Magee
02-05-12, 22:34
Hi AM / Nullnull, thanks for the feedback, guys. I will probably follow AM's efficient order of visitation. It's interesting, Nullnull, that you say KD had the disapppointing line up. The KD website pictures (Marianna, Betty, Lea, Penny and Annabel, to name a few, have pretty appealing faces and nice bodies) are far more inviting than the pics on the Royal and VK websites.LJ, allow me to clarify something. By my experience of these places, Royal, KD, VK, of the three I think I can say that Royal had the hottest women by appearance. That is by my own standards and that I met there women who had a certain look. KD had over all better service but I always chose off the website and made appointments. Most of my KD sessions were repeat session with 3-4 different women I found especially appealing, none of them still working at the bordello.

Royal I would drop in and find in the line up the women I ended up choosing, rarely did I chose women from the web site and In fact my best sessions were with girl not even featured on the website.

VK I visited but not for a very long time. In fact as I remember it the ladies were hot but I became disturbed by what I perceived to be a less than welcoming attitude by the Hausfrau. I may well have been too sensitive on this but in the end I was always happier at Royal and so returned there instead.

So by all means give KD a spin if time permits. The order of visitation I gave (Royal, VK, KD) was based on which bordello I felt would suit you plus the time factor. KD will take you a little longer to get to as it is probably at a minimum a 10-15 minute walk from an S Bahn station.

AM

Angus Magee
02-05-12, 22:38
Nothing on their website about price. Any recent info available on pricing there. Looking forward to Berlin visit in April.

RickI am not certain exactly but the half hour should cost €50 with €10 for BBBJ and a further €10 for cim. Really standard lower end bordello prices all round.

AM

Zapzapzap
02-06-12, 12:26
Ramona and Anna were both working at KZ last year. Search my posts for a review. Clara is new this year. I might well give her a test run next week. If you beat me to it then please post here and let us know whether she is up to their usual high standard.

Best.

CDear Charlie,

Thank you for your help. I didn't knew if they were the same girls, or diferent girls with the same name. Regarding Clara I think I will try her late March when I will be in Berin. Will post a report then.

Angus Magee
02-07-12, 05:42
In answer to http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1245414&viewfull=1#post1245414


Hi LJ,

A short primer in BBBBBBJA, Berlin Bordello Bare Back Blow Job Availability. Most bordellos offer BBBJ (&CIM) as a charged extra. The cost is usually around, €30 for BBBJ and €40 if you want to come in her mouth. Some smaller cheaper bordellos offer the BBBJ part as an enticement to punters but generally it is available and paid for.

KD is an exception. They offer nothing uncovered, except presumably a HJ if you go that way. So if BBBJ, or lack of it, is a deal killer for you, don't even bother with KD. There are those who say it is available, but do not count on it.

How do they do it in a city where BBBJ is the norm? I could speculate all the behind the scenes reasons but It comes down to service. For my money KD offers the most guaranteed session of any place I have visited, anywhere. I do hear the occasional report of dissatisfaction but myself I only ever had 1 less than stellar performance in that shop. So I guess they get away with it that way. There is a big enough local market of punters who are willing to cover up (let's face it if you have a wife or partner with whom you are having condom-less sex, even BBBJ carries a risk of passing something along) and pay a premium.

As for the 5 min. thing-I think the distance between Royal and KD (probably a moot point now) is a fast 10+ minutes. 15 ata stroll. To do it in 5 you would have to practically jog.

AM

PS-Even at the bordellos that do offer it as extra not all girls will do it. You best check with the individual girls when you meet them or ask the Hausmutti to only show you girls who offer it. I really think most will but it does well to check. BBBJ is known as "Französisch Ohne" or Ohne Vorspiele" and BBBJ-CIM as "Französisch Total".

Kimino
02-07-12, 09:03
In answer to http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1245414&viewfull=1#post1245414

Hi LJ,

I'm a reasonably fast walker, and I love walking. Still 5 min was just to give an estimate, might be 10 but not much more.

Yes, for the BBBJ thing it was just for KD.

Have fun!

Kimino

LilJoey
02-07-12, 20:42
In answer to.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1245414&viewfull=1#post1245414

Hi LJ,

A short primer in BBBBBBJA, Berlin Bordello Bare Back Blow Job Availability. Most bordellos offer BBBJ (&CIM) as a charged extra. The cost is usually around, €30 for BBBJ and €40 if you want to come in her mouth. Some smaller cheaper bordellos offer the BBBJ part as an enticement to punters but generally it is available and paid for.

KD is an exception. They offer nothing uncovered, except presumably a HJ if you go that way. So if BBBJ, or lack of it, is a deal killer for you, don't even bother with KD. There are those who say it is available, but do not count on it.

How do they do it in a city where BBBJ is the norm? I could speculate all the behind the scenes reasons but It comes down to service. For my money KD offers the most guaranteed session of any place I have visited, anywhere. I do hear the occasional report of dissatisfaction but myself I only ever had 1 less than stellar performance in that shop. So I guess they get away with it that way. There is a big enough local market of punters who are willing to cover up (let's face it if you have a wife or partner with whom you are having condom-less sex, even BBBJ carries a risk of passing something along) and pay a premium.

As for the 5 min. Thing-I think the distance between Royal and KD (probably a moot point now) is a fast 10+ minutes. 15 ata stroll. To do it in 5 you would have to practically jog.

AM.

PS-Even at the bordellos that do offer it as extra not all girls will do it. You best check with the individual girls when you meet them or ask the Hausmutti to only show you girls who offer it. I really think most will but it does well to check. BBBJ is known as "Französisch Ohne" or Ohne Vorspiele" and BBBJ-CIM as "Französisch Total".Thorough and detailed answer, as usual, AM. Thanks to you and to Kimino for responding.

I'd like to put this into economic perspective for the traveling monger community. If the bordello 1 hour session costs 150 Euro + 30 Euro for BBBJ, that would bring the hour session including BBBJ at Royal or Van Kampen to 180 Euro (almost $240 USD / hr). And one cannot bring that net rate down by sessioning with more girls as is possible at Artemis. To illustrate, if one's standard number of 1 hour FKK sessions on a given FKK visit is three sessions, then at Artemis that would total 120+120+120 (+80 entrance) totals 440 Euro ($582 USD) , which divided by the three sessions gives a net cost per session of 146 Euro / hr ($194 USD) /hour. So comparing apples to apples, Artemis with 146 Euro / hr (if one does 3 one hour sessions) compared to brothels like Royal or VK where the cost is 180 Euro / hr for the same 3 hours, is a far better choice, since in addition to the significantly lower price for the same service, Artemis also has a much larger size of quality line up to select from.

Therefore, for someone who doesn't live in Berlin, but is coming into Berlin on a mongering trip with the intent of having sex multiple times each day, such as in the example above of three 1 hour sessions with BBBJ, going to bordellos will cost 100 Euro more (540 Euro) than going to Artemis (440 Euro) and the selection will not be as extensive as at Artemis. So from an economic standpoint multiple session mongering at bordellos in Berlin is not the way to go. Head for Artemis.

From an economic standpoint, the bordello scene is only preferrable to someone seeking only ONE session that day. Then the 180 Euro cost at a bordello like Royal for 1 hour BBBJ session is less, but only slightly, than the 200 Euro cost for the same thing at Artemis. And because the cost difference is small (200 Euro versus 180 Euro) , I suppose even someone looking to session only once, might rather pay 20 more Euro at Artemis to have the broader selection there.

There may be other factors like ambience or privacy that might be valued by some hobbyists at a bordello, versus the FKK, but economically I see it as stated above.

As a traveler, evaluating Berlin as a mongering destination, with its nearly 146 Eur/$194 per hour net rate (if you do 3 one hour sesstions at Artemis) , Berlin is a much higher priced venue than the other options, like Ukraine or Poland where the costs are literally less than half (rates like $50 / hr, $75 / hr or $100 / hr are common) , and beauty is off the charts.

Even in a place like Vienna, ostensibly a Western European cosmopolitan city similar to Berlin, although the FKK Goldentime Vienna prices are similar to the prices in FKK Artemis in Berlin, the other Vienna options are telling. See for example www.viennaescort.at And the like, where although the initial hour rate for an outcall escort may be in the neighborhood of 150 Euro, but the second hour goes down to 110 Euro / hr or 100 Euro / hr, which is more the norm and the center of gravity for a stunde.

Berlin is among the higher priced mongering destinations. By way of further example, if it costs 180 Euro in a Berlin bordello like Royal for a 1 hour session with BBBJ, which is about 150 GBP. Go take a look at www.londonescortguide.com And see the type of Eastern European hotties available in London at that same price of 150 GBP (180 Euro)!

Just my 2 cents.

LJ

Granthree
02-07-12, 20:45
Hi.

I'm wondering if anyone can tell me about Charlyn from Tiffany / ritter11. De?

http://ritter11.de/bordell-girls/charlyn.php

And also maybe just if someone can tell me about their "küss-kurs"/kissing course? It seems like a thing they offer, to teach men how to kiss. Has anyone tried that? I'm thinking that it might be a bit weird if the girl finds you unattractive.

Maybe they will just decline?

Angus Magee
02-08-12, 09:35
Maybe they will just decline?Hey G,

Honestly I would not worry so much about the girl being attracted to you. This is prostitution we are talking about. Remember that. The women are there to be paid and for that they over look, ay a certain level, the looks of a customer. I am pretty certain that no matter how bad you yourself think you look, the women have seen worse.

Just as an aside, if you are looking for a woman to be attracted to your looks paid sex is not the way to go. How will you ever know this when you know that they are being paid?

As for the kissing course, I myself would give it a miss. Kissing is, in some strange way for me. More intimate than genital sex. But if you really crave a kiss, and don't mind paying, this may well be the way to go. Only you can decide this.

AM

Angus Magee
02-08-12, 09:41
Just my 2 cents.

LJA fine analysis LJ. I just want to note that this is concentrated on the higher end of Berlin paid sex. To say over all the Berlin is an expensive destination is not that accurate. It is expensive at the level of which you speak. This may well be your preferred level but there are many other alternatives available. Hell, you can get laid here for as little as €30. The hunt for a good cheap session can of course be time consuming and I admit one can spend a lot looking for that "one". But it can be, and is, done by the locas. Certainly as a visitor, if you want a certain level of looks and service at a moments notice, you have to pay more. To call Berlin a very expensive paid sex destination in Europe though is not entirely accurate.

But as I say, excellent analysis. In the end I certainly agree that there is cheaper FKK sex to be had in Germany where there is more competition. In Berlin at the moment, Artemis is it and it is expensive.

AM

Rocketboy0
02-08-12, 12:08
A fine analysis LJ. Agree that there is cheaper FKK sex to be had in Germany where there is more competition. In Berlin at the moment, Artemis is it and it is expensive.

AMAll true. But a few additional thoughts. A lot of these calculations are relative in that you have to first be in a given location. The cost of getting to Kiev, Prague, Warsaw or Chiang Mai etc has to be factored in. Then even when there, there are time costs getting to know the scene, traveling to find comfort zones and flats etc. Then there is the risk factor-risk of false advertising, of faulty info, or good old-fashioned danger. True apples to apples (or mellons to mellons) comparisons are tough.

On the quality level, e g one would have to pay 25-50% more in London (which admittedly has significant amounts of good choices) , or say in New York, or LA, it can easily be double the cost and requires a lot of work and running around. In Geneva, or Zurich, there are also very good choices, again at about double the cost, though well organized. If you read say the Kiev ISG forum, it seems to be between epic and mythic. Some stunners, good prices, but a fair bit of hassles too. I must admit I would love to go sometime, but I keep getting put off by the potential complications and while some might find the feeling of being constantly on edge an additional 007ish thrill, I do not. All these places probably have their ebb and flow-recall in the late 90s / early 2000s the Baltics were "it". Perhaps Serbia and Croatia are. But you still have to get there, contend with the language and culture and unknown unknown issues. Of course like anywhere, once one really knows the scene, it is different. But there is a real cost in acquiring that knowledge, ISG reports not withstanding.

So the point is, Berlin IMHO remains a very good overall value proposition. It is safe, has wide variety of choices, a lot of cultural options when not partaking, it is easy to get around, and the whole business is well organized and just very hassle-free. It may not be the cheapest, but overall, it is a good deal.

Bobo.fr
02-08-12, 15:34
All true. But a few additional thoughts. A lot of these calculations are relative in that you have to first be in a given location. The cost of getting to Kiev, Prague, Warsaw or Chiang Mai etc has to be factored in. Then even when there, there are time costs getting to know the scene, traveling to find comfort zones and flats etc. Then there is the risk factor-risk of false advertising, of faulty info, or good old-fashioned danger. True apples to apples (or mellons to mellons) comparisons are tough.

Etc.1) As I already mentionned : for 2 hours of meetings, Artemis cost the same amount than Kamilla-Dee (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1162576#post1162576) and would cost more than KD for less than 2 hours of meetings.

2) Comparing sauna-clubs to bordellos is a bit comparing Indian cooking to Chinese cooking : it will depend on what you like and expect for!

3) In general in Prague, I spend more money for sex than in Berlin but I can not say that Prague is more expensive than Berlin because in Prague, I often use "foreigner-oriented" escorts agencies' services while in Berlin, I often use bordellos' services : we can not really compare cakes to vegetables !!!

Granthree
02-08-12, 17:24
A fine analysis LJ. I just want to note that this is concentrated on the higher end of Berlin paid sex. To say over all the Berlin is an expensive destination is not that accurate. It is expensive at the level of which you speak. This may well be your preferred level but there are many other alternatives available. Hell, you can get laid here for as little as €30. The hunt for a good cheap session can of course be time consuming and I admit one can spend a lot looking for that "one". But it can be, and is, done by the locas. Certainly as a visitor, if you want a certain level of looks and service at a moments notice, you have to pay more. To call Berlin a very expensive paid sex destination in Europe though is not entirely accurate.

But as I say, excellent analysis. In the end I certainly agree that there is cheaper FKK sex to be had in Germany where there is more competition. In Berlin at the moment, Artemis is it and it is expensive.

AMThanks AM! You are completely right. I just didn't think of it in that way.

LilJoey
02-08-12, 18:53
1) As I already mentionned : for 2 hours of meetings, Artemis cost the same amount than Kamilla-Dee (

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1162576#post1162576

) and would cost more than KD for less than 2 hours of meetings.

2) Comparing sauna-clubs to bordellos is a bit comparing Indian cooking to Chinese cooking : it will depend on what you like and expect for!

3) In general in Prague, I spend more money for sex than in Berlin but I can not say that Prague is more expensive than Berlin because in Prague, I often use "foreigner-oriented" escorts agencies' services while in Berlin, I often use bordellos' services : we can not really compare cakes to vegetables!Admittedly, I realize, and even mentioned in my post, that there may be other factors aside from sheer economic cost, which some gentlemen might prefer in a bordello type experience versus what goes on at the FKK Artemis. However, it has been confirmed in Angus Magee's post that Kamilla Dee bordello cannot be discussed in the comparison to Artemis because BBBJ is not available at Kamilla Dee, whereas a standard session at the FKK Artemis includes BBBJ, not as an additional paid extra, but as included in the standard session price of 120 Euro per hour. In the other bordellos like Royal and Van Kampen it will cost an extra 30 Euro to have BBBJ included in the session, raising the cost for an hour session including BBBJ to (150 + 30=) 180 Euros at those bordellos.

Therefore, for guys interested in BBBJ, the cost comparison between the FKK Artemis and those bordellos which have high end line ups similar, or at least approaching, what Artemis can offer, for an hour of full service GFE session including BBBJ, remains as I have stated in my previous post.

However, for those guys who do not seek BBBJ, and even at Artemis request a condom be used for the blow job, the availability of BBBJ at Artemis is of no value to them. For guys not seeking BBBJ, your observation that, at the two hours of sessions quantity, because of the 80 Euro entrance fee at Artemis, the costs at Artemis for two hours of sessions are equivalent to the costs for two hours at Kamilla Dee remain accurate, as well as the implication that Artemis will come out more expensive for a one hour session, and less expensive for three hours of sessions than at Kamilla Dee. But this is only relevant to those guys not interested in BBBJ being included in the session, or even for those guys who like BBBJ, but are willing to pay the same rate at Kamilla Dee without BBBJ because of other factors they like about this bordello. But if one is to compare costs strictly, then one has to compare those places which offer similar services to Artemis, which Kamilla Dee does not.


All true. But a few additional thoughts. A lot of these calculations are relative in that you have to first be in a given location. The cost of getting to Kiev, Prague, Warsaw or Chiang Mai etc has to be factored in. Then even when there, there are time costs getting to know the scene, traveling to find comfort zones and flats etc. Then there is the risk factor-risk of false advertising, of faulty info, or good old-fashioned danger. True apples to apples (or mellons to mellons) comparisons are tough.

On the quality level, e g one would have to pay 25-50% more in London (which admittedly has significant amounts of good choices) , or say in New York, or LA, it can easily be double the cost and requires a lot of work and running around. In Geneva, or Zurich, there are also very good choices, again at about double the cost, though well organized. If you read say the Kiev ISG forum, it seems to be between epic and mythic. Some stunners, good prices, but a fair bit of hassles too. I must admit I would love to go sometime, but I keep getting put off by the potential complications and while some might find the feeling of being constantly on edge an additional 007ish thrill, I do not. All these places probably have their ebb and flow-recall in the late 90s / early 2000s the Baltics were "it". Perhaps Serbia and Croatia are. But you still have to get there, contend with the language and culture and unknown unknown issues. Of course like anywhere, once one really knows the scene, it is different. But there is a real cost in acquiring that knowledge, ISG reports not withstanding.

So the point is, Berlin IMHO remains a very good overall value proposition. It is safe, has wide variety of choices, a lot of cultural options when not partaking, it is easy to get around, and the whole business is well organized and just very hassle-free. It may not be the cheapest, but overall, it is a good deal.What you say about the need to include travel costs in an accurate cost comparison is true, Rocketboy0. However, from a given point in the USA or Canada, let's say from New York, the cost of flights to any given point in Europe, be it Berlin or Kiev, probably can range from between the $600's to the $800's, depending on season and on which destination country, so the differential of $100 to $200 in airfare price is not that significant a factor to recommend one destination over another on that basis, because it is a one time cost. The p4p costs on a mongering weekend or week or month at play are RECURRENT costs and can mount up quickly. Therefore, lower net costs per p4p session can allow more sessions to fit into one's budget, a primary consideration for a monger planning a sex trip. Besides the luxury apartment costs in a place like Kiev are a bit lower than the high end hotel costs with similar luxury appointments in places like London or Berlin, so the savings in hotel costs makes up a little for the slightly higher airfare to Kiev. Therefore, the cost comparison between different cities in Europe can afford to ignore the travel costs, and still remain an accurate analysis, especially where the price difference is so marked. As I pointed out the rates for p4p in Kiev and Warsaw are less than half of the rates in Berlin.

Furthermore, your comments about safety are well taken. I have always been a safety conscious fellow. However, in Kiev I have always felt safe. I only go to public establishments frequented by lots of people downtown. In Kiev, the action centers around Rio strip club, various regular nightclubs and discoteques like Buddha Bar, D'lux and Shooters, which have become locations where fair numbers of high class working girls looking for dates also come, and the main streets and shopping malls of downtown Kiev where there are lots of beautiful girls you can try to start up with, and with whom many guys succeed. All these are very public and safe venues. In addition, guys are using outcall escorts be it from mamba. Ru, top-modals. Com or a host of other internet outcall escort agencies that abound in Kiev, and the girls come to the guy's apartment, which is also relatively safe. I don't recommend going off alone to far flung apartments in unfamiliar neighborhoods where one doesn't know who is there waiting for sure. My posts on the Kiev thread, and the posts of all the other contributors, should make it easy for anyone to hit the ground running and have loads of less expensive fun if they choose to go to Kiev.

But what you say about there being a learning curve, and some hassle, until one knows how and where to safely get high quality, less expensive pussy in a new venue one has not visited before, is of course true. However, ISG forum helps a LOT in that area, as one can read the posts of, and directly ask, those who have gone before. Sure it takes a little while until you get your "sailor's legs" in a new city you've never visited before, but that is part of the adventure. And, nowadays tools similar to Google Maps and Google Translate clear away much of the unfamiliarity and language barrier in cities where English is not widely spoken, making it possible to visit such places too.

This is not to say that visiting places which are not large tourist centers wouldn't raise concerns for safety. But large cities in Eastern Europe such as Kiev, Warsaw, Krakow or Prague, all frequented by many tourists, shouldn't be threatening if one uses basic common sense about personal security and sticks to public venues.

Angus Magee
02-08-12, 19:16
Just a short note-the cost of BBBJ at Royal may well be €30 or it could be €20 + 10 for CIM. It has been a while since I used their services and memory is not entirely accurate. I do seem to remember my last visit I paid €190 for BBBJ, Kissing (broke my cardinal rule-what a waste of €20) but as I say, not certain. I am sorry if this throws out your calculations LJ but I think we catch your drift and the basic costs do remain the same. I just mention this in the interest of accuracy.

AM

LilJoey
02-08-12, 19:18
A fine analysis LJ. I just want to note that this is concentrated on the higher end of Berlin paid sex. To say over all the Berlin is an expensive destination is not that accurate. It is expensive at the level of which you speak. This may well be your preferred level but there are many other alternatives available. Hell, you can get laid here for as little as €30. The hunt for a good cheap session can of course be time consuming and I admit one can spend a lot looking for that "one". But it can be, and is, done by the locas. Certainly as a visitor, if you want a certain level of looks and service at a moments notice, you have to pay more. To call Berlin a very expensive paid sex destination in Europe though is not entirely accurate.

But as I say, excellent analysis. In the end I certainly agree that there is cheaper FKK sex to be had in Germany where there is more competition. In Berlin at the moment, Artemis is it and it is expensive.

AMYes AM, you are indeed right. I am only seeking and talking about p4p girls who are 8's. 9's or 10's, possessing a high level of beauty and who deliver GFE service. If there are less expensive ways of getting such girls at lower prices, then it is very valuable knowledge. I am decidedly uninterested in a 30 Euro fuck with some unappealing hooker. I would more enjoy a self service relief using my favorite porn website to stir the imagination. So, if there are girls in the 8 to 10 range available at prices lower than the Royal or VK bordellos, it is valuable knowledge which should be disseminated.

True again, the knowledge possessed by the "locals" of how to find inexpensive, yet high quality pussy, is indeed a very valuable thing for a hobbyist. For example, I never quite mastered the possibilities of Budapest, before I found and became enchanted with Kiev, yet I know that the local guys in Budapest know how to find awesome looking girls in that city who can be had for a very reasonable price for less than 100 Euro / hour. I may yet go back to Budapest, but I am currently more drawn to Warsaw or Krakow as new venues for me.

Thanks for your kind and gentle words.

LJ

LilJoey
02-08-12, 19:41
Just a short note-the cost of BBBJ at Royal may well be €30 or it could be €20 + 10 for CIM. It has been a while since I used their services and memory is not entirely accurate. I do seem to remember my last visit I paid €190 for BBBJ, Kissing (broke my cardinal rule-what a waste of €20) but as I say, not certain. I am sorry if this throws out your calculations LJ but I think we catch your drift and the basic costs do remain the same. I just mention this in the interest of accuracy.

AMYes, AM, it changes the numbers slightly, but the conclusion based on the comparison is still the same. To wit: Artemis is a better deal than the bordellos! At Artemis three hours of sessions is still (120+120+120 plus 80 entrance fee =) 440 Euros, with a one hour net rate of 146 Euro / hr for full service including BBBJ and including kissing. By comparison, at Royal bordello where it cost you 190 Euro for 1 hour for the same services, it would be 570 Euros for the same three hours of sessions, which is 130 Euros more than if you had gone to Artemis.

Even for those only interested in a 1 hour session, the price differential between Artemis (200 Euro) and Royal (190 Euro) for a GFE session including BBBJ and kissing, is only 10 Euro, which seems worth it to pay in order to have the wider and better selection that is available at Artemis.

If you eliminate the kissing at Royal, and subtract the 20 Euro for that service, then the total price for a 1 hour session at Royal including BBBJ, but not kissing, is 170 Euros. Three hours of such sessions will be a total of 510 Euros, while at Artemis it would be 440 Euros, making Artemis the lower priced choice, and they will throw in the kissing for you for no extra charge. LOL.

Thanks much, AM.

LJ

Angus Magee
02-09-12, 18:50
A I must admit I would love to go sometime, but I keep getting put off by the potential complications and while some might find the feeling of being constantly on edge an additional 007ish thrill, I do not.For me one of the things that actually puts me off FKK is exactly that it seems so very safe. Maybe it is just an issue with me but isn't, or wasn't one of the reasons we all started mongering in the first place for the thrill of discovery, for exploration? And isn't part of any good adventure the very real possibility that something unforeseen, even dangerous might happen? In this light I have to say thank god for the sharks and barracuda that prowl the carpets at Artemis trying to lure me into the room to savage me and relieve me of my treasure. But for them I might just fall asleep more than I already am.

I can remember way, way back in my youth, while I was waiting on a visa to get me into Afghanistan, prowling the back streets of some back alley bazaar in Tehran looking for some very illegal tail. (This was in pre-hostage taking days) That I did not find any that I had the courage to approach was besides the point. It was the adrenal charged danger of the hunt that, looking back, I valued most. I remember that way more than any pussy I have had.

These days I do consider that we mongers have the internet and forums such as this to help us try to avoid some of the worst dangers out there. I also feel though that this comes with a cost, the lessening of the buzz one feels when on the hunt. I guess some of us try to amp it up by searching out ever more beautiful, maybe expensive, tail. Others turn to bare back or bizarre fantasy fulfilment. All of us though I think do have to come somehow to terms with the fact that safety is the kissing cousin of boredom and as much as we try to eliminate the unexpected, life has a way of grabbing hold and rubbing our waning peckers straight into it.

All Hail Chaos and get me to Kiev

;)

AM

Ortos
02-09-12, 20:03
These days I do consider that we mongers have the internet and forums such as this to help us try to avoid some of the worst dangers out there. I also feel though that this comes with a cost, the lessening of the buzz one feels when on the hunt. I guess some of us try to AMP it up by searching out ever more beautiful, maybe expensive, tail. Others turn to bare back or bizarre fantasy fulfilment. All of us though I think do have to come somehow to terms with the fact that safety is the kissing cousin of boredom and as much as we try to eliminate the unexpected, life has a way of grabbing hold and rubbing our waning peckers straight into it.

All Hail Chaos and get me to Kiev.

AMHey, for sure if you got your ass to sub-zero-Kiev these days your pecker would wane big time, no?

Your point about the thrill of discovery, the adrenaline of the hunt, etc. Are bang on: But did you ever consider that these days there is such stress and sometimes risk taking just to acquire and spend the funds necessary to monger on the e. G. FKK-level. Maybe this kind of balances things when we coast through a deep line-up at a good FKK.

O

Rocketboy0
02-09-12, 21:41
For me one of the things that actually puts me off FKK is exactly that it seems so very safe. It was the adrenal charged danger of the hunt that, looking back, I valued most. I remember that way more than any pussy I have had. AMWell, that could be because you were getting too many adrenalin thrills, and not enough pussy. :eek:

As I did say, I do understand this, Mr. Bond. I promise you, in my youth, I had more than my share of all this intrigue and international man of mystery stuff, in then Bombay, or in towns in the Himalaya now out of bounds, in very odd and dodgy places in New York, LA, Frankfurt, Paris, and London, forbidden zones in Stockholm or Copenhagen, etc. But as I have put some kilometers behind me, the thrill has gone. Plus it just takes up so damn much time, time I don't have anymore. I find it more than thrilling enough to explore a new, strange woman, to try to figure what makes her tick, and see if we can get our bodies in synch in some more than commercially satisfying fashion, and I am very grateful when the sheer access part is quick and easy. I guess it is choosing the c unt vs the hunt, or just becoming a lazy fucker. But to each his own. I know you miss your Langley days.

Breadman
02-09-12, 21:47
For me one of the things that actually puts me off FKK is exactly that it seems so very safe. Maybe it is just an issue with me but isn't, or wasn't one of the reasons we all started mongering in the first place for the thrill of discovery, for exploration? And isn't part of any good adventure the very real possibility that something unforeseen, even dangerous might happen?Sounds like your looking for the adrenalin rush as well as the sex. I've got buddies who travel to Rio and Costa Rica, those destinations easily add 'danger' to the hobby. Stumbling into the wrong place at the wrong time is not my idea of discovery and exploring for some pussy. Other options are outcall where you basically have to wait for hours until the girl gets dropped off and hope she's your type. You get a girl who's twice the weight that was advertised and who's driver is a huge biker dude, your going to get your 'thrill of discovery' in spades if U-turn her down. Mind you, I'm 2 meters tall and weigh in at 120 kilo's, there's a time to fight and there's a time to fuck. I prefer to keep them separate. Enjoy the clubs for their relative safety, relive and retell the fight that you won 'back in your youth', forget about the one's you lost.

Sucker17
02-09-12, 22:41
For me one of the things that actually puts me off FKK is exactly that it seems so very safe. Maybe it is just an issue with me but isn't, or wasn't one of the reasons we all started mongering in the first place for the thrill of discovery, for exploration? And isn't part of any good adventure the very real possibility that something unforeseen, even dangerous might happen? In this light I have to say thank god for the sharks and barracuda that prowl the carpets at Artemis trying to lure me into the room to savage me and relieve me of my treasure. But for them I might just fall asleep more than I already am.

AMI can relate to what you're saying Mr. Bond, although I don't think I would go as far as to Afghanistan in order to fullfill my adrenaline rush! But there is absolutely sense in what you say. I haven't really thought about it before, but I remember I'd been numerous times to Prague during the last decade and knew the city almost better than my hometown. Then I went there with two friends last autumn. They had never been there before, and even though it was an enjoyable trip I felt at some point this déjà vu feeling of boredom. First of all because they wanted to go the same safe, but cheap clubs. I have always craved for something new, then I had my job-related trip to Berlin and discovered Artemis and FKK clubs for the first time. What a great thrill! It feels like a drug, I just want more.

Today I still love Prague, but it feels like I've found a new "lover" in Frankfurt and Berlin, if it makes sense. The day will soon come when I want to discover the NRW clubs. One of my most exciting and "scary" episodes actually happened in Prague for about 4 years ago, when I was mistaken for being member of the Russian mafia, and was led by one of the bouncers in a basement of one of the nightclubs (that disappeared after the financial crisis). I can assure you that the adrenaline was pumping! The story behind is rather long, so I won't bother you, unless you demand the details.

Member #4626
02-11-12, 02:34
Was at euphorie massage last week and wanted to try Nuru massage for the first time.

Presented with the lineup of 5 ladies and then the receptionist asked me what I want and with whom in German.

As my german is not so good and she couldn't speak english, she called one of the ladies to talk with me.

She explained what Nuru massage was and that it starts with hot stone massage and is body to body massage with mutual touching.

From the lineup I choose Lucy. She is petit, has a pretty face, slim body and a-cup breasts.

http://www.euphorie-massagen.de/lucy.html

Unfortunately she couldn't speak any english, so I had to use my very little german when we talked to each other.

I have had many tantra (real tantra) and body to body massage in the past. I experienced no difference between this massage and an ordinary body to body massage with oil and couldn't feel the Nuru gel to be very different from massage oil. The massage was not special, but good. She was very good with HJ and I got the chance for a little DATY, but stopped short after as she was smeared in oil and Nuru gel and it didn't tasted good.

Was offered shower both before and after the massage. While I was waiting for the shower to be ready after the massage, I read the label of Nuru gel bottle. It was written that there is two different bottle and both should be mixed with each other and another liquid (forgotten what) and then it is ready for massage. Under the massage she only warmed the bottle and applied them one after another.

PS: I wanted to buy a pre-paid sim card for data usage (internet, mail, etc) and googled for pre-paid sim cards. All of them required to activate the sim card over the internet or by calling to a number. As my german is not good and the wireless in my hotel didn't worked, I just went to a small store near my hotel and asked if they had any sim card which also can be used for data. They offered me Lyca mobile sim card for 7. 5 euro and said if I charged it with another 10 euro it will give me 300 MB data. As soon as I put the sim card in my phone, I got a setting message for gprs and could use it for data. No activation, no adding 10 euro extra, no nothing. It gave me around 25 MB and some national calls and then run out of credit. I recharged it again with 10 euro and used almost 90 MB and again some national calls and there was still credit on the sim card. So for those who want to use data connection and don't want to pay roaming prices (for me was 2. 50 euro per MB) it is a good deal.

Angus Magee
02-11-12, 10:16
Was at euphorie massage last week and wanted to try Nuru massage for the first time.Thanks for this report SK. I have been curious about both the place and this Nuru massage. Euphorie gets rather mixed reviews in the German forums but it is close to where I live and way more convenient than other massage studios. While mutual massage including oral (on her) seems pretty standard in most places I had the impression that it was not so at Euphorie. Can I ask was there and discusion of this before hand or did it just happen?

It does not sound though that the Nuru part of the massage is really worth any extra expense. Can I also ask what you paid for the massage and for how long? One of the things that bugs me, and makes me reluctant to try this place, is that they are a bit vague about how much the various massage cost on the website. Never a good sign in my experience.

Regrads.

AM

Nille Copenhagen
02-11-12, 10:50
forbidden zones in Copenhagen, etc.Sorry to correct you, there are no forbidden zones in Copenhagen, we have some nasty clubs but no forbidden zones!

Nille Copenhagen
02-11-12, 11:06
Thanks for this report SK. I have been curious about both the place and this Nuru massage. Euphorie gets rather mixed reviews in the German forums but it is close to where I live and way more convenient than other massage studios. While mutual massage including oral (on her) seems pretty standard in most places I had the impression that it was not so at Euphorie. Can I ask was there and discusion of this before hand or did it just happen?

It does not sound though that the Nuru part of the massage is really worth any extra expense. Can I also ask what you paid for the massage and for how long? One of the things that bugs me, and makes me reluctant to try this place, is that they are a bit vague about how much the various massage cost on the website. Never a good sign in my experience.

Regrads.

AMNuru, Soapy, Oily B2B massage have all the same effect on me. I got a hard on, LOL,

I prefer oil, warm oil is actually nicer and make your skin softer, while nuru is more "sticky and dirty" (sounds good right?) and soap could leave your skin dry.

Rocketboy0
02-11-12, 17:35
Sorry to correct you, there are no forbidden zones in Copenhagen, we have some nasty clubs but no forbidden zones!Nille. I was using the word in a kind of literary sense, as in places one should not really be in. I meant really "rough" areas and neighborhoods, with lots of DK skinheads and motorcycle gangs etc. Every one knows Kobenhavn is (in general) a very fine, safe, friendly, welcoming city, with lovely girls. I just wish they were not so expensive....

Member #4626
02-12-12, 02:57
Thanks for this report SK. I have been curious about both the place and this Nuru massage. Euphorie gets rather mixed reviews in the German forums but it is close to where I live and way more convenient than other massage studios. While mutual massage including oral (on her) seems pretty standard in most places I had the impression that it was not so at Euphorie. Can I ask was there and discusion of this before hand or did it just happen?

It does not sound though that the Nuru part of the massage is really worth any extra expense. Can I also ask what you paid for the massage and for how long? One of the things that bugs me, and makes me reluctant to try this place, is that they are a bit vague about how much the various massage cost on the website. Never a good sign in my experience.

Regrads.

AMThere was no discussion of DATY in advance. I just asked her to turn around in 69 position while she was giving me HJ and then begun touching and then licking.

The price for an hour of Nuru massage was 150 euro. If I remember correctly other massage price range was between 100 and 120 for one hour.

The place seems to be well run and all 5 ladies on the lineup were attractive.