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Kimino

12-06-12, 02:55

Before meeting up with the boys as mentioned in Artemis thread, I decided to test once more Liberty. Basically because it was very close to my hotel. Arrived there around 12:30. I was very surprised by the lineup. I was shown 12 girls. 3 black girls, not my cup of tea but I recall somebody asking about this recently, the rest all doable except a couple, and then 2 real cuties. Natasha and Kris (or Chris). Choosed Kris, from Berlin. Blonde, tall, tatoos. Real fun girl, we setted for 40 min. 80 euro plus 20 for kissing. Took a shower, was offered to drink and then had a very intense session with Kris. She loves looking in the mirror while fucking or sucking, kind of PSE. I asked if she did cim and she answered she like but it was an extra. I asked how much it was and she answered "up to you, no problem", after ending I paid her 50 (a la Artemis) and she was happy about it. For sure could have gien her less but WTF.

Yeah the name is Chris, here is the link.

http://liberty-berlin.de/chris.html

Anyways, very good impression about Liberty.

Kimino

Neutron Flux

12-07-12, 18:46

3 black girls, not my cup of tea but I recall somebody asking about this recently,

KiminoI guess two of the three were Linda (Haiti) and Justin (forgotten, but I believe also Carribean or surroundings). But essentially they're both locals. Both good but not outstanding. Both do good DFK. They have been there on and off for years.

Neutron Flux

12-07-12, 19:56

I asked if she did cim and she answered she like but it was an extra. I asked how much it was and she answered "up to you, no problem", after ending I paid her 50 (a la Artemis) and she was happy about it. For sure could have gien her less but WTF.

KiminoBTW that was a big tip, it's usually 20. She surely liked you then. It's only at FKKs where they have an outrageous 50 for that. BTW that's also one main reason why 90 % or more of FKK girls will do it, and maybe 20 % or less apartment girls. Same story, adjusted numbers for anal.

Angus Magee

12-08-12, 11:53

Kimino

12-08-12, 14:27

BTW that was a big tip, it's usually 20. She surely liked you then. It's only at FKKs where they have an outrageous 50 for that. BTW that's also one main reason why 90 % or more of FKK girls will do it, and maybe 20 % or less apartment girls. Same story, adjusted numbers for anal.Yes, a waste of money, I'll remember it next time. Good to know about the anal thing, next time I put my hands on Chris I'll test the whole lot. LOL.

As a side note, I must say that in all clubs I went in Berlin I don't recall obtaining Cim, and for sure I asked it. I think for non regulars, if you are looking for extras, your best bet is Artemis, if you want to stay in med / hi level places. Don't know about the rest.

Thanks for the info.

Kimino

Rocketboy0

12-08-12, 22:31

Yes, a waste of money, I'll remember it next time. KiminoKimino, I think you are being your typical modest self. These normal CIM rates apply to normal beings discharging normal loads. But in your case, you paid more because, being a gentleman, you know you were asking a lot, when they have to handle what you are "packing". Somewhere between Dicke Berthe (Big Bertha) & Heavy Gustav...

Member #4626

12-09-12, 04:21

I was in berlin at end of November and beginning of December for 4 days.

I had planned to visit Artemis the other 3 day except for the first night as I would arrive late at berlin and would be exhausted. The first night I planned for an escort visit to my hotel.

Hotel: (

http://goethe87.arcona.de

) Actually it is more apartment then hotel. I got a good deal of 3 night for 120E. The apartment was 26 m² with kitchen, queen size bed, small safe, modern bathroom (massage shower) and very clean. It is ideal for escort as the reception is not in front of the entrance, and the girls can directly access the elevator from the entrance.

The girl: I wanted to try a girl from Klein&Zierlich, but the girl I wanted was not available (now removed from the list of the girls) , so I called escortgirlsberlin although I was skeptical about the agency because of not so good reviews. The phone lady was a Russian and she sounded stressed and was talking on 2. 3 phones on the same time. I asked for.

http://www.escortgirlsberlin.de/xenia2.htm

She said that the girls is available and I should send the address and room number as SMS. As I hadn't checked in to my hotel yet we agreed that I should send the room number when I got to my hotel. I did so and sent one right away and the other one when I got to my hotel. 10 minuets past the agreed time I got worried as the girl didn't show up and I didn't got any confirmation call / SMS. I called again and asked about the arrangement and she was again talking on another phone but she assured me that the girl will be in my place in 10 minuets and she is a little bit late. After exactly 10 minuets I got a call and it was Xenia asking for the room number. I gave her room number and she came up. The pictures are very accurate and she is very CUTE CUTE CUTE. She get rid of her coat and we sat at coach for a little bit of talk and drink. After 5 min. She: "so what you want and for how long. 1 hour or 2". Me: "What do you do as extra and how about the prices" (although it is stated clear on the website). She: "hour rate is 90E, CIM 20E, kissing 10E and anal 50E". She seemed so beautiful and was so friendly and nice, so Me: "I take everything you mentioned for 2 hours. How much it is then? But will only do anal if you like it and it is no pain for you". She: "Are you sure? Hmmm. It is hmmm. 210 for 2 hour without anal and you pay me 50 extra at the end if we did anal". Me: "it sounds good and I want to start at the bathroom". She: "Very good, I just have to call my driver when he should pick me up".

Then she got undressed and I sat and watched her flawless body, then she set her phone to ring after two hours and we went to the bathroom. In the bathroom we dfk under the shower for long time and then washed each others body and then she got down and began a good BBBJ. I had saved myself for the trip so I couldn't hold it back after 8-10 minuets and unloaded a big load in to her mouth and face. Then we washed ourselves again and retired to the bed, talked and kissed for a good ½ hour. Then I went down at her for DATY. She was responsive and it seemed that she enjoyed it as she once in a while pushed hard my head down and began light moaning. Then she made me hard with her BBBJ before we began at mish. Position. After some change of position and tempo I came for the second time. After a quick wash we lay beside each other on the bed and talked for a long time and I was not sure that I could go for round three. After some time I felt like I was ready for round three and asked again for BBBJ and then we were having sex that her phone ringed as the time was up. She said that time is up, muted the alarm and continued for another 10 min. Before I finished with CIM.

The next three days I went to Artemis and had a great time (will write a report when I got time) , but this girl was the best encounter of my trip to berlin. She said that she will go on Christmas vacation and maybe therefor is not listed on the web-page right now, but she will be back after new year.

Angus Magee

12-09-12, 12:08

Thanks for the report SK. This agency does have a spotty reputation as far as I can see but also it seems that when it is good it is very good. And I have to admit that they have some banging girls on line. They also have a couple of in call locations.

http://www.hochstaedter-massage.de/

http://www.bizarre-rollenspiele.de/

Sounds to me that by taking the girl for a longer session you got better service plus maybe a bit of the old chemistry.

I look forward to hearing about your Artemis experience.

AM

Oppis

12-09-12, 22:27

I went to artemis, and my jaws dropped to the floor!

So many beautiful naked girls at the main lounge. Nice.

It was my first time in Fkk places.

Naturally I was very exited and my first girl (forgot the name) but if somebody recognise:

Black long hair, nice tanned skin, good ass and full lips. She used glasses, about 170cm, D-sized breast (silicone)

I took 30min / 60e, we went to up and and talked little bit and then she hurryed to BJ, ans little bit later we tried some positions and BAM. It was quick. Maybe the exitiment / stunning girl / too long time for last time. Anyway is it normal that girl do her job and that's it? Then we left the room, or as a client can I demand talking / rubbing something for that remaining time? I am newbie and don't know a shit about "rules".

Second girl? :

(forgot her name also) .160cm / long dark hair, nice tanned body, beautiful face, perfect ass, small a-cups. And she keep saying "yeah babe" during session. Little bit BJ, and then from behind. She didn't like that and demanded to missionary postion, I din't agree. I said how about lying on belly? NO, she said and turned to missionary. Is it normal that girls refuses clients, and says that this is better do what she wants. I came and were little pissed about that session. It was waste of time and money. = (

Afterall artemis was great experience, but I am not sure if I go there again. I left me little cold or girls seems to have hurry all the time, very little chatting, just acting and done, bye. Is it normal or did I get just bad last experience?

Bobo.fr

12-10-12, 16:48

I went to artemis, and my jaws dropped to the floor!

Etc.) This is Artemis' thread : http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin

Rocketboy0

12-10-12, 16:49

I went to artemis, It was my first time in Fkk places.

Naturally I was very exited and my first girl (forgot the name)

Second girl? : (forgot her name also)

Afterall artemis was great experience, but I am not sure if I go there again. I left me little cold or girls seems to have hurry all the time, very little chatting, just acting and done, bye. Is it normal or did I get just bad last experience?It is normal if you cannot remember anyone's name. And if you think it was great, but not sure...well, I just dunno. And like Bobo says, wrong department. I think all this glue sniffing is having its effect.

Angus Magee

12-10-12, 17:27

Anyway is it normal that girl do her job and that's it? Then we left the room, or as a client can I demand talking / rubbing something for that remaining time? I am newbie and don't know a shit about "rules".Maybe it is a language issue with you (as in you are obviously not a native English speaker) but "demanding" from the girls rarely has the desired effect in an FKK or otherwise. And as RB notes, remembering the girl's names helps. I mean, writing a report is great but if you can not remember any names you might as well write to Penthouse forum as the wrong thread on the ISG.

Further, there is no "normal" at an FKK. Much depends upon how you act and how you treat the ladies you chose. Poor choices inevitable mean poor sessions. These days the Love Bahnhof requires that you have you wits about you and don't head to the room with the first pretty girl who wiggles her ass at you.

AM

Oppis

12-10-12, 22:09

Sorry about my bad english- bad typing and my text which is hard to read.

Being nervous / too exited about Fkk- made me forget names. And that is why I tried to descripe those girls if someone knows their names? Maybe next time I will write names to paper.

BTW rocketboy, glue sniffing? Cmoon!

Ani70

12-11-12, 14:48

Hi,

Anyone knows Maitresse Simone (and also Sensual Lena on Adultwork)?

I'm wondering how she is.

Thank you

Angus Magee

12-11-12, 15:19

BTW rocketboy, glue sniffing? Cmoon!You must excuse RB. He gets ornery and grumpy when his boosters are backed up. Glue sniffing was no doubt meant as a compliment. Maybe I will have to drag him to Poonville soon.

AM

TheSaint3012

12-19-12, 13:10

Ken_Apples

12-19-12, 22:51

Hey People,

I am going to Berlin with my GF, and we want to go to a couples / swingers club.

We would like to know if anyone can recomend a club / swinger, let us know. We are going to be in Berlin on the 18 till 20th of January 2013.

CheersSaint,

If you do find or go to a swingerclub, please add report afterward.

There are very few reports on serious couples-only swingerclubs, and your input would be most intresting.

Best regards, Ken Apples

Angus Magee

12-20-12, 16:06

Hey People,

I am going to Berlin with my GF, and we want to go to a couples / swingers club. I am 33 and she is 28 and we are looking for a nice place and people where we can fullfill our fantasies.

We would like to know if anyone can recomend a club / swinger, or if there is another couple out there that wants to have fun, let us know. We are going to be in Berlin on the 18 till 20th of January 2013.

CheersIt has been reported here but only as a GB place (certain nights are GB nights) but Insomnia is one option.

http://www.insomnia-berlin.de/popup_english.html

Also I know of this place by reputation.

http://www.swingeroase-zwiespalt.de/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m7MnYm47wI

Can not say anything about quality as I have never been. Try googling the subject as there are plenty of hits when you do and you will as likely get you info there I think.

AM

Skagen

12-22-12, 17:51

The girl: I wanted to try a girl from Klein&Zierlich, but the girl I wanted was not available (now removed from the list of the girls) , so I called escortgirlsberlin although I was skeptical about the agency because of not so good reviews.You were probably lookibg for Ramona? Ytes a top girl for that price. In any case you should have called K-Z. They have a new slim blonde Maria who I can report is a super performer.

Boy1978

12-26-12, 13:32

Going to Berlin next year, anyone have good tips for girls at Tiffanys?

Any amateur girls that you can recommend at Kaufmich or other places?

Thank You!

Kimino

12-26-12, 19:48

Going to Berlin next year, anyone have good tips for girls at Tiffanys?

Any amateur girls that you can recommend at Kaufmich or other places?

Thank You!Hi. Although not answering directly to your question and based solely on my experience, I would avoid Tiffany and have a look at Royal, Liberty and Van Kampen. Royal has never put me down, Liberty on my last visit had a great lineup. There's many more, Monrouge, Kd, Prestige, but those are the ones I would check out first.

Know nothing about amateurs.

My2cents.

Kimino

AColonizer

12-26-12, 20:29

i am reading something about berlin scene. i realize, again, men ask for escorts but they need a some-kind affective relationships more than a prostitutes. it is really humiliating to ask for easy sex at their crazy prices: basic price + extra for dfk + extra for cim + extra for swallow + extra for shower + extra for anal + extra for [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103) + no fisting + no bondage + no huge toys + even vaginal sex with condom too? a hand-job is thousands times more masculine than to waste thousands euros in that stupid artificial love!

Finite

12-26-12, 21:25

Hi. Although not answering directly to your question and based solely on my experience, I would avoid Tiffany and have a look at Royal, Liberty and Van Kampen. Royal has never put me down, Liberty on my last visit had a great lineup. There's many more, Monrouge, Kd, Prestige, but those are the ones I would check out first.

Know nothing about amateurs.

My2cents.

KiminoHi Kimino!

The places you recomend are for sure good establishments, but what's wrong with Tiffanys?

I personally like Tiffanys, the line up was pretty good when I visited the place, this autumn. It also seem verry clean and well organized, but wich bordello does not in Germany?

Boy1978, it's an impossible task to recomend someone that's to your liking based on my personal likings.

Kimino

12-27-12, 09:21

Hi Kimino!

The places you recomend are for sure good establishments, but what's wrong with Tiffanys?

I personally like Tiffanys, the line up was pretty good when I visited the place, this autumn. It also seem verry clean and well organized, but wich bordello does not in Germany?

Boy1978, it's an impossible task to recomend someone that's to your liking based on my personal likings.As I said, only based on my experience on 5/6 visits, so take it for that. Mediocre lineup (left the place 3 times without picking a girl) , on two occasions the hausmut was quite aggressive for absolutely no reason, really giving me the impression I was disturbing. Rooms are very nice and place clean, still not enough to make it in my shortlist, with so many places in Berlin. Maybe I was just unlucky. As always, the best way is to test a place / girl personally.

Kimino

Boy1978

12-27-12, 13:13

Hi Kimino!

The places you recomend are for sure good establishments, but what's wrong with Tiffanys?

I personally like Tiffanys, the line up was pretty good when I visited the place, this autumn. It also seem verry clean and well organized, but wich bordello does not in Germany?

Boy1978, it's an impossible task to recomend someone that's to your liking based on my personal likings.Of course Finite, all like different girls / look. I like natural girls,"nextdoor girls", without silicon and other fake stuff.

What girls did you visit at Tiffanys? I will go there, its easy to access from Mitte where I will stay.

Boy1978

12-27-12, 13:15

Finite

12-27-12, 14:56

Of course Finite, all like different girls / look. I like natural girls,"nextdoor girls", without silicon and other fake stuff.

What girls did you visit at Tiffanys? I will go there, its easy to access from Mitte where I will stay.Last time I was there I visited a Polish girl, Victoria? I'm not any good at remembering names, looking at the pictures on their site it must have been Victoria. She has no silicone or other fake stuff, don't know if she a "next door girl". All in all it was a good session.

Finite

12-27-12, 15:09

As I said, only based on my experience on 5/6 visits, so take it for that. Mediocre lineup (left the place 3 times without picking a girl) , on two occasions the hausmut was quite aggressive for absolutely no reason, really giving me the impression I was disturbing. Rooms are very nice and place clean, still not enough to make it in my shortlist, with so many places in Berlin. Maybe I was just unlucky. As always, the best way is to test a place / girl personally.

KiminoI have not been there so many times as you have, been there 3 times over a couple of years so maybe I have just been lucky. Personally I like to visit different places mid- to high end. I think that's part of the charm of mongering. And as you said if you don't like the line up, walk away.

Kimino

12-27-12, 16:37

Can you remember what girls you did visit?Hi Boy1978, I looked back in my reports but only could find one name, Stefy.

Anyways, as allways, the best thing to do is to call up before and ask who is there. Or, if you feel like making a tour, just go there and if nothing matches your tastes just try another place.

FYI: Here is the report I filed at the time, not much info in there.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1160136&viewfull=1#post1160136

Bye

Boy1978

12-27-12, 17:35

Thank you Kimino,

I only been to; Kamilla la Dee, the houselady that did received me did look very nice. Only 2 girls free, did not like them so I went out. To bad I could not fuck the houselady (is that possible?). They have a girl named Yves, did read good stuff about here. Anyone her visited her?

About street girls; I don't like this, I have seen it close to Hackescher Markt. Why do people buy girls on the street for prices like 200euro? (the girl I spoked to wanted 230euro!) I will never buy a streetgirl. When you can go to a good place and pay like 100euro (or more) for a nice girl in a safe place.

Will write about Tiffanys when I go there next week! . Also saved places you did write.

Bobo.fr

12-28-12, 00:23

. Etc.

To bad I could not fuck the houselady (is that possible?). They have a girl named Yves, did read good stuff about here. Anyone her visited her?

Etc.1) Yves was a houselady in the past. (So were Maria (not Marie) and Caro)

2) I met Yves more than once, here are some posts :

December 2009 :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=966113&viewfull=1#post966113

July 21rst 2010 :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1047755&viewfull=1#post1047755

Sorry, my posts are short and shorter! It's why I don't post my meetings anymore because they could be seen as an exhibition of "trophees" : that's not my goal!

Canyon

12-28-12, 08:07

Angus Magee

12-28-12, 09:21

I will be visiting Berlin in April and I would like to spend a few days mongering there. I hope some of you veterans will give me some advice. I want an upscale experience, so the flat-rate houses are not of interest to me. I plan to visit Artemis, Liberty and some of the others. However, what I enjoy the most is bringing a girl back to my room at the hotel and having a session of 90 minutes to two hours-a leisurely session including a massage, BBBJ and sex in many different positions.

In Bangkok, I visit a massage parlor, a nightclub or an upscale genetleman's club, meet a girl, then bring her back to my hotel. I would like to do something similar in Berlin, but I don't know how to proceed. An escort service is a possibility, but you never know who will show up at your door. I prefer to meet the girl before I bring her back. I'm prepared to be generous, so within reason, price is not an issue. Can anyone give me some pointers?

Also, are all hotels in Berlin girl-friendly or would I have a problem bringing her back? I would like to stay in a top hotel. Can anyone recommend a top-quality hotel that is guest-friendly?

Thank you,

CanyonI would give Bel Ami a try for this service. It is a bar / brothell (high end) in the center of town. As far as I know (never been there) the usual drill is to have a drink and then retire to one of the on site rooms. But I am alsp pretty sure that you would not be the first guy to do take out here.

http://www.belami-berlin.de/
http://www.monrouge.de/

It is right next door, or rather underneath, Mon Rouge where you might also do some searching. I am really not sure if girls in a regular bordello would do take out as I am not sure that this is a service that is much asked for here. On the other hand you could try but might find the girls nervous as it is something new?

As for girl friendly hotels-pretty much any hotel except maybe the real cheap rooms would be girl friendly. This is Berlin afterall.

AN

Loick

12-28-12, 11:38

Boy1978

12-28-12, 16:12

1) Yves was a houselady in the past. (So were Maria (not Marie) and Caro)

2) I met Yves more than once, here are some posts :

December 2009 :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=966113&viewfull=1#post966113

July 21rst 2010 :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1047755&viewfull=1#post1047755

Sorry, my posts are short and shorter! It's why I don't post my meetings anymore because they could be seen as an exhibition of "trophees" : that's not my goal!Yhanks, Yves looks very good. So you did meet her in 2009. Then she have been thre for a while.

Best way to get a meeting is to call first and book.

Galazy2

12-28-12, 20:12

Hello guys,

As I see you are all pretty experienced.

I am not (yet). And would like to have a recommendation from you for first-timers / virgins like me. Are there particular places where I could be more "welcome"? While very excited about this, I'm a bit afraid of that moment and little problems that could arise (like finishing too fast, etc.).

Do you have tips / caveats to share?

And how much time should I book in your opinion?

Thanks,

LoickA lot of the women at Kamilla Dee offer a 'Beginners Service'. My first P4P experience was with FionaatKamilla Dee a few years back and I had a wonderful time. I was with her for 2 hours including the 'Beginners Experience', it wasn't my first time having sex but it was my first time paying for it. She took everything really slow and when I shot my load after a couple of short minutes she cleaned me up and we started again.

I'd suggest dropping them an e-mail telling them what you want and they will come back with some suggestions.

Canyon

12-28-12, 20:47

Thank you for the information, Angus. Your reports are always excellent. Unfortunately, Bel Ami closed in 2011, but Monrouge is still open. From what I can gather, the most upscale places for facilities, girls and service are Artemis, Liberty, Van Kampen and Monrouge. Would you agree? I'm thinking about trying them.

Another post said Harry's New York Bar and First Club are good places to meet upscale working pro's. Do you know them?

Are there any escort sites that are good and reliable? If so, I might try one and have a girl come to my hotel.

Thank you,

Canyon.

I would give Bel Ami a try for this service. It is a bar / brothell (high end) in the center of town. As far as I know (never been there) the usual drill is to have a drink and then retire to one of the on site rooms. But I am alsp pretty sure that you would not be the first guy to do take out here.

http://www.belami-berlin.de/

http://www.monrouge.de/

It is right next door, or rather underneath, Mon Rouge where you might also do some searching. I am really not sure if girls in a regular bordello would do take out as I am not sure that this is a service that is much asked for here. On the other hand you could try but might find the girls nervous as it is something new?

As for girl friendly hotels-pretty much any hotel except maybe the real cheap rooms would be girl friendly. This is Berlin afterall.

AN

Angus Magee

12-28-12, 21:14

Thank you for the information, Angus. Your reports are always excellent. Unfortunately, Bel Ami closed in 2011, but Monrouge is still open. From what I can gather, the most upscale places for facilities, girls and service are Artemis, Liberty, Van Kampen and Monrouge. Would you agree? I'm thinking about trying them.

Another post said Harry's New York Bar and First Club are good places to meet upscale working pro's. Do you know them?

Are there any escort sites that are good and reliable? If so, I might try one and have a girl come to my hotel.

Thank you,

Canyon.No Bel Ami changed location from near the Olympic Stadium (Flatowallee?) to its' current location underneath Mon Rouge. The two are somehow connected or at least the girls upstairs are said to sometimes work downstairs. I do think it or MR are probably your best bets due to the fact that both have bars in which to meet the women. I am sure that Royal, VK and KD could also work but none of these places have bars and you would simply have to sit through a parade, chose and go. I doubt much conversation would be possible.

There is also a place called Bar Rouge in Mitte and Villa Rascona also in Wilmersdorf but I do not know much of either place.

http://www.barrouge.de/

http://www.rascona.de/index.html

I have not heard of either place you mention.

As for escort agencies I am not very well informed at the moment s hesitate to recommend any other than what you can find by searching the forum.

AM

Canyon

12-29-12, 08:47

Angus, I appreciate the information. You have a wealth of Knowledge.

Canyon

Kimino

12-29-12, 17:38

There is also a place called Bar Rouge in Mitte and Villa Rascona also in Wilmersdorf but I do not know much of either place.

http://www.barrouge.de/Couple of info on Bar Rouge.

Kind of classy place (or wannabe such) , free entrance. 45E champaign piccolos. Saw a few girls lying around on a sofa at the entrance, nice but no stunners. There should be rooms available somewhere in the place but we didn't get to that point. Just had a look, asked some info to the barman and moved on to the next club. Might be a fun place if you are in the mood for that kind of stuff, usually not my cup of tea.

I would be interested to make a visit to Bel Ami some day.

Kimino

Angus Magee

12-29-12, 18:29

Couple of info on Bar Rouge.

Kind of classy place (or wannabe such) , free entrance. 45E champaign piccolos. Saw a few girls lying around on a sofa at the entrance, nice but no stunners. There should be rooms available somewhere in the place but we didn't get to that point. Just had a look, asked some info to the barman and moved on to the next club. Might be a fun place if you are in the mood for that kind of stuff, usually not my cup of tea.

I would be interested to make a visit to Bel Ami some day.

KiminoThanks Kimino, I should have known that you and Charlie had at least done a preliminary recon of these places. But in the end we always seem to end up back at Artemis. What ever faults the place may have there is relatively little BS to be contended with there. Generally you get what you pay for if you take the time to chose well. I am not sure why a guy would really insist on having a girl at his hotel when for more or less the same price he could disappear into a room for a couple of hours, no fuss, no bother. But to each his own I guess.

AM

Kimino

12-29-12, 23:11

Thanks Kimino, I should have known that you and Charlie had at least done a preliminary recon of these places. But in the end we always seem to end up back at Artemis. What ever faults the place may have there is relatively little BS to be contended with there. Generally you get what you pay for if you take the time to chose well. I am not sure why a guy would really insist on having a girl at his hotel when for more or less the same price he could disappear into a room for a couple of hours, no fuss, no bother. But to each his own I guess.

AMYep. Totally agree. It's a matter of tastes, it depends on your profile (tourist, regular, regular tourist) and bla bla bla, but personally if I go to clubs it's normally just to try a different location and take a break from Artemis. This said, I'll be back at Liberty for sure to meet Chris, if she is still there. LOL.

Kimino

Finite

12-30-12, 00:56

Thanks Kimino, I should have known that you and Charlie had at least done a preliminary recon of these places. But in the end we always seem to end up back at Artemis. What ever faults the place may have there is relatively little BS to be contended with there. Generally you get what you pay for if you take the time to chose well. I am not sure why a guy would really insist on having a girl at his hotel when for more or less the same price he could disappear into a room for a couple of hours, no fuss, no bother. But to each his own I guess.

AMArtemis is a nice place, but don't you find it kind of boring after a while? I can manage max 5 hours in that place, then I get kind of bored. That's why I like the apartment brothels, it's quicker and in most places you get as good of a service or better than in Artemis. Then I can use the rest of my time to party in some decadent club, and if I'm lucky hook up with non p4p-girls. The prices for a drink in Artemis is stupid, I understand why they have such high prices, but I would like the club better if I could have normal or slightly overpriced brewski between sessions. Otherwise it would be the perfect warm-up place.

Rocketboy0

12-30-12, 17:57

Artemis is a nice place, but . I can manage max 5 hours in that place, then I get kind of bored.Well ah, bring something to read.

Artemis is like most clubs more claustrophobic in winter. When things warm up, hanging outside by the new Poondorf pool and jacuzzi will be good, even while listening to the soothing sounds of the autobahn and 2 train lines.

Back to thread form. Bel Ami near Mon Rouge has had some weird stuff going down-like a bad smashup break-in this year. There is an odd Ruskie mafioso vibe. I guess some would enjoy the edginess.

I still think there is a definite need for a kind of small, attractive boutique bordello where one could hang and get drinks, all for a reasonable price. If someone would just get the formula right, it would attract better women (allow them to earn slightly more and not have to do the Artemis churn) , be less of a mass wurst factory than Artemis, allow some wifi work area etc, and be interesting enough to lounge around with better music, food, clientele etc. One day, one can hope.

Kimino

12-30-12, 21:32

Artemis is a nice place, but don't you find it kind of boring after a while? I can manage max 5 hours in that place, then I get kind of bored. That's why I like the apartment brothels, it's quicker and in most places you get as good of a service or better than in Artemis. Then I can use the rest of my time to party in some decadent club, and if I'm lucky hook up with non p4p-girls. The prices for a drink in Artemis is stupid, I understand why they have such high prices, but I would like the club better if I could have normal or slightly overpriced brewski between sessions. Otherwise it would be the perfect warm-up place.Ciao Finite.

Totally agree with you about the drink thing. It's ridiculous. I would spend more but have nice drinks in real glasses, instead they give you eyedrops in plastic glasses for 10 euros. Palace (Fra) is MUCH better for this.

Regarding the time spent at Art. I usually take brakes, going out for dinner or maybe visiting anothe club, but more than once I stayed there 10 or more hours without problems. Depends on the mood, the company, etc.

Kimino

Kimino

12-30-12, 21:36

I still think there is a definite need for a kind of small, attractive boutique bordello where one could hang and get drinks, all for a reasonable price. If someone would just get the formula right, it would attract better women (allow them to earn slightly more and not have to do the Artemis churn) , be less of a mass wurst factory than Artemis, allow some wifi work area etc, and be interesting enough to lounge around with better music, food, clientele etc. One day, one can hope.Yep, could be nice!

Well, Pascha tryed it but it lasted what? 2 weeks? Not exactly what you are talking about but maybe looking that way. Still the fail was not because of the business model but because of the location If I understood correctly.

Kimino

Finite

12-31-12, 01:54

Well ah, bring something to read.

Artemis is like most clubs more claustrophobic in winter. When things warm up, hanging outside by the new Poondorf pool and jacuzzi will be good, even while listening to the soothing sounds of the autobahn and 2 train lines.

Back to thread form. Bel Ami near Mon Rouge has had some weird stuff going down-like a bad smashup break-in this year. There is an odd Ruskie mafioso vibe. I guess some would enjoy the edginess.

I still think there is a definite need for a kind of small, attractive boutique bordello where one could hang and get drinks, all for a reasonable price. If someone would just get the formula right, it would attract better women (allow them to earn slightly more and not have to do the Artemis churn) , be less of a mass wurst factory than Artemis, allow some wifi work area etc, and be interesting enough to lounge around with better music, food, clientele etc. One day, one can hope.Tried to bring a book with me to Artemis, however I had problems concentrating on reading it. .

The clubs that are somewhat similar to what I think you mean with "boutique bordellos", almost always fails on having either a rediculous pricing [buying expensive drinks for the girls, or 200€ for a simple 30 min fuck and' suck] or not so good looking women. Otherwise I agree, it could be a fun place to visit, if such a place existed.

Finite

12-31-12, 02:09

Ciao Finite.

Totally agree with you about the drink thing. It's ridiculous. I would spend more but have nice drinks in real glasses, instead they give you eyedrops in plastic glasses for 10 euros. Palace (Fra) is MUCH better for this.

Regarding the time spent at Art. I usually take brakes, going out for dinner or maybe visiting anothe club, but more than once I stayed there 10 or more hours without problems. Depends on the mood, the company, etc.

KiminoYes, I know that you can leave the place and come back. Maybe I will try that next time. I always go to these kind of establishments alone, don't have any friends that I know of, that share my hobby. I guess it could be fun if you are in a company, but sometimes the guys I see that arrive togheter to Artemis behave pretty badly. Last time it was a gang of Italians acting out. And on the time before that it was people from my own country behaving badly, felt that I had to lie to the girls that I was from a neighboring country LOL.

Kimino

12-31-12, 11:28

Yes, I know that you can leave the place and come back. Maybe I will try that next time. I always go to these kind of establishments alone, don't have any friends that I know of, that share my hobby. I guess it could be fun if you are in a company, but sometimes the guys I see that arrive togheter to Artemis behave pretty badly. Last time it was a gang of Italians acting out. And on the time before that it was people from my own country behaving badly, felt that I had to lie to the girls that I was from a neighboring country LOL.Ahahaha. I know very well what you mean! Some people really act like idots. Next time you are up you could post a message and maybe meet up with other ISG members that happen to be there. Can be fun if you meet the right people.

Ciao. Kimino

Finite

12-31-12, 13:17

Ahahaha. I know very well what you mean! Some people really act like idots. Next time you are up you could post a message and maybe meet up with other ISG members that happen to be there. Can be fun if you meet the right people.

Ciao. KiminoMaybe I'll try that next time, always wonderd about how some of the members are in real life [from hard-core mongers to neurotics like Norjan]. But I don't think a meeting of that sort is so easy to arrange, people have to be in Berlin / Frankfurt etc. At the same time, and I think alot of people don't want to meet up beacause of privacy reasons, wich of course is understandable. And beeing alone also has it's advantages.

Happy New Year!

Neutron Flux

12-31-12, 18:54

Artemis is a nice place, but don't you find it kind of boring after a while? I can manage max 5 hours in that place, then I get kind of bored. That's why I like the apartment brothels, it's quicker and in most places you get as good of a service or better than in Artemis. Then I can use the rest of my time to party in some decadent club, and if I'm lucky hook up with non p4p-girls. The prices for a drink in Artemis is stupid, I understand why they have such high prices, but I would like the club better if I could have normal or slightly overpriced brewski between sessions. Otherwise it would be the perfect warm-up place.Just saying, basically +1. You could not be more correct with everthing you say. I mean, I don't intend to get wasted in the club, but a man wants a drink or two at times, and not pay a fortune and thereby asking himself what went wrong in his life because he's doing that, haha. And it would be good for business, too. E. G. The Oase 5 euro cocktails, that are quite good actually, certainly swung the pendulum on more than one ocassion in favor of me going there when I'm in Frankfurt, and I'm sure a comparabale offer would do in Artemis, but not like 10 euros for substandard beer in cups.

Finite

01-01-13, 03:03

Just saying, basically +1. You could not be more correct with everthing you say. I mean, I don't intend to get wasted in the club, but a man wants a drink or two at times, and not pay a fortune and thereby asking himself what went wrong in his life because he's doing that, haha. And it would be good for business, too. E. G. The Oase 5 euro cocktails, that are quite good actually, certainly swung the pendulum on more than one ocassion in favor of me going there when I'm in Frankfurt, and I'm sure a comparabale offer would do in Artemis, but not like 10 euros for substandard beer in cups.You are right about the beer it's substandard, it's Heineken I think? The Germans are famous for three tings except WW2, great autos, great bier, and great porn. So why serve a dutch brand, that's not even a great beer?

I think there's two sides of the coin in this case, if you drink to much you can't fuck as much, right? But if you are not shitfaced you prob. Take longer sessions and do more extras. For example I did a duo in Barcelona, not shitfaced but drunk. It was a really good session, bareback rim-and blowjob with a catalan and a brazilian. My own performance was not especially good. But it was verry memorable, much more than any duo that I have had in Berlin. But of course also verry expensive.

Angus Magee

01-01-13, 14:59

Maybe I'll try that next time, always wonderd about how some of the members are in real life [from hard-core mongers to neurotics like Norjan]. But I don't think a meeting of that sort is so easy to arrange, people have to be in Berlin / Frankfurt etc. At the same time, and I think alot of people don't want to meet up beacause of privacy reasons, wich of course is understandable. And beeing alone also has it's advantages.

Happy New Year!Myself, Rocketboy (both living in Berlin) , Kimino, Zimmerbaby, Bearsk, sometimes Charlie123 and maybe a couple others less regular meet up regularly when one or more passes through town. These days we often meet at a place close to Artemis so that those who are there can have a short break. Just drop myself or RB a line via pm if you are passing through.

AM

Finite

01-01-13, 22:49

Myself, Rocketboy (both living in Berlin) , Kimino, Zimmerbaby, Bearsk, sometimes Charlie123 and maybe a couple others less regular meet up regularly when one or more passes through town. These days we often meet at a place close to Artemis so that those who are there can have a short break. Just drop myself or RB a line via pm if you are passing through.

AMThanks for the replay Angus, I will send you a PM as soon as I have purchased a subscription, later this week.

I'm quite curious about the Lora Gora girl, that was mentioned earlier in this thread. She looks verry interesting, however I get some bad vibes about her. Is she a pro or a student making some kind of videowork of prostitution as her theisis at the school of arts in Stockholm [konstfack]?

Neutron Flux

01-02-13, 01:55

You are right about the beer it's substandard, it's Heineken I think? The Germans are famous for three tings except WW2, great autos, great bier, and great porn. So why serve a dutch brand, that's not even a great beer?

I think there's two sides of the coin in this case, if you drink to much you can't fuck as much, right? But if you are not shitfaced you prob. Take longer sessions and do more extras. For example I did a duo in Barcelona, not shitfaced but drunk. It was a really good session, bareback rim-and blowjob with a catalan and a brazilian. My own performance was not especially good. But it was verry memorable, much more than any duo that I have had in Berlin. But of course also verry expensive.Yes, Heineken, and it's not great. And yes, Alcohol will not enhance the performance, but in moderation has a negligable effect to me and I assume many others. And it can be part of the fun too as you describe. After all you're going there to have a good time and not for the sex olympics. I had a similar story one month ago at Oase where Eva was able to get one hour plus CIM from me, because I had four of their cocktails before. Haha.

BTW Finite and also Angus and others, if you'd like to meet up at some point, sure. I'm only part time in Berlin and actually just about to leave, but will be back, probably in February.

Not to deter to this thread too much and to get it back on subject: I was also at Royal recently and did Valentina. Pale brunette, tall, slim, be cups, very young, local. Not the best round ever, but not the worst either. No DFK and still has to learn the techniques a bit, but willing to please and good to talk to. She told me about a brief stint of hers at Liberty. What I do not like at Royal at present is that their line up very heavily tends towards black and black haired girls. I already noticed this on earlier vistis. Just not my preferred flavour at present. There were one or two blondes, but no pretty ones.

Boy1978

01-02-13, 20:30

Hello,

Today I did visit Kamilla Dee, did call first to make the apointment with Yves. I think here body is very nice, lovely tits and ass. Nice height, perfect in doggystyle. She will stop working from April this year she said. Was ready for a real job after some study.

Only downside is that she don't blow without condon. And have some tatoos. But I will recommend her.

Tomorrow I have an apointment at Tiffanys.

Giorgio82

01-03-13, 18:04

Hi,

I would like a massage with domination and a HJ from a pretty masseuse. Would you recommend or not recommend the following places (concerning service / absence of problems and level of beauty) :

1. Atelier Marvlin (bizarre-rollenspiele. De)

2. Van Kampen.

3. Liberty.

4. Euphorie.

5. Kamilla Dee.

6. Veronas Massagen.

Any other place to recommend?

Thank you in advance!

Boy1978

01-05-13, 00:11

Today I went to Royal (http://www.royalgirl.de), it is not far from Kamilla Dee. I think Royal is nicer, very nice rooms! The bathroom also. I was looking for three girls: Stacy, cyntia and judy. Did not call first. Non of this girls was working, so I did take a girl named "Mikka". On the website I did not look at her at all. But she looks much better in real life. Little bit shy, had 30min with her. I think she did a good job, good blowjob without (20euro extra).

Next time in Berlin I will go back to Royal. Anyone in here that have visited Stacy, cyntia or judy? I like the pics.

Tiffanys did not have any girls for taste at the time I was there.

Loick

01-05-13, 02:01

A lot of the women at Kamilla Dee offer a 'Beginners Service'. My first P4P experience was with FionaatKamilla Dee a few years back and I had a wonderful time. I was with her for 2 hours including the 'Beginners Experience', it wasn't my first time having sex but it was my first time paying for it. She took everything really slow and when I shot my load after a couple of short minutes she cleaned me up and we started again.

I'd suggest dropping them an e-mail telling them what you want and they will come back with some suggestions.Thank you Galazy2 for your advice. Fiona is apparently not working there anymore, but I'll do that. I also saw "beginner's service" at Tiffany's, Herz, Gina's Tango Rosa. And report back here if that can be of interest to anyone.

Bobo.fr

01-05-13, 10:40

Thank you Galazy2 for your advice. Fiona is apparently not working there anymore, but I'll do that. I also saw "beginner's service" at Tiffany's, Herz, Gina's Tango Rosa. And report back here if that can be of interest to anyone.KD's Fiona : did you ask / check with KD's "escort service" (see at the bottom of this web page http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/contact.htm ). Actually, those last years, Fiona worked only with "arrangements" (http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/escort_4e.htm) : minimum 1 hour (200 Euros).

EndlessXXX

01-05-13, 10:45

I am interested in the flatrate. I read about Calicula and King George.

Someone has been in both?

Which is better and why?

Angus Magee

01-05-13, 13:25

Thank you Galazy2 for your advice. Fiona is apparently not working there anymore, but I'll do that. I also saw "beginner's service" at Tiffany's, Herz, Gina's Tango Rosa. And report back here if that can be of interest to anyone.I am not sure what is the advantage of any of these "1st timer" beginner services. I think any well regarded bordello will suffice, even Artemis if you think that you can withstand the inevitable pressure tactics practiced by some of the girls there. In any case simply find a slightly older woman (25+ I would say) who appeals to you and seems "sympatic", in the French sense of the word. Tell her that it is your first time (whether your first time having sex or first time with a pro was not clear from your original post, in either case tell her) and off you go. The most important thing is that you have a little connection with her and that you do not expect the world to change just because you get laid by a hooker.

My only other piece of advise is that if you have a great time try not to fall in love and to immediately do it again with a different girl. This is, IMO, the greatest danger of a first timer who has a successful punt.

AM

Kimino

01-05-13, 17:02

Today I went to Royal (

http://www.royalgirl.de

) , it is not far from Kamilla Dee. I think Royal is nicer, very nice rooms! The bathroom also. I was looking for three girls: Stacy, cyntia and judy. Did not call first. Non of this girls was working, so I did take a girl named "Mikka". On the website I did not look at her at all. But she looks much better in real life. Little bit shy, had 30min with her. I think she did a good job, good blowjob without (20euro extra).

Next time in Berlin I will go back to Royal. Anyone in here that have visited Stacy, cyntia or judy? I like the pics.

Tiffanys did not have any girls for taste at the time I was there.thanks for the report. Good to hear you had good time in Royal. Great place.

Maybe if you are in the mood for trying out new places, next time you could try Liberty, easily reachable and last tme I was there the lineup was great. http://liberty-berlin.de/index.html

Kimino

Boy1978

01-05-13, 19:17

thanks for the report. Good to hear you had good time in Royal. Great place.

Maybe if you are in the mood for trying out new places, next time you could try Liberty, easily reachable and last tme I was there the lineup was great.

http://liberty-berlin.de/index.html

KiminoHello Kimino!

Thanks for the tips, I will try Liberty next time. The price is also lower there (60euro / 30min). Any girl there you will recommend?

I look at the map. Its close to Fuggerstraße, good indian restaurant there (maharadscha). Great combo, sex and then good food!

James 006

01-05-13, 21:39

James 006

01-05-13, 21:53

I've been here twice before and have had it right. Previously it was an okay selection. Last time I was there was a year ago.

I visited the place again a few days ago and got one of my worst experiences.

The most important thing is that none of the ladies look good. I chose the one that looked best when I felt obligated to get something in return for the 100 euros that

It costs to get inside. I should have left the place after 10 minutes.

I paid for sucking cock without a condom. But this working girl was trying to trick me into paying double the price.

It smells sour pussy long way.

Dear friends. Stay away from this awful place.

Angus Magee

01-05-13, 22:11

I was with a girl in Artimis who used to work in old Bel Ami. She told me Pasha failed because of not have the right to serve alcohol before they opened. They was using Bel Amis rights and that was not cool.

I hope for more quality girls in Berlin. I find them in Dusseldorf and Frankfurt, but not so often in Berlin.

Why is it so?As I read on the German forums Pascha failed because the neighbourhood did not want an obvious bordello. This is why Bel Ami lost the location and moved to its' current location. That Pascha then went and spent the money to open and operate (for two weeks) another bordello is almost unbelievable, yet this is what appears to have happened. When the city zoning board found out they were promptly shut down though alcohol sales might have been used to accomplish this.

My opinion is that Artemis being such a big and strong club discourages any one else from opening up as competition. That and the no doubt endless hassels of getting something through city zoning panners. I am sure it could be done but it would take someone with deep pockets and probably a few underworld-ish ties.

Before Artemis opened La Folie was a nice little club. Now that we have Artemis the talent there is lacking as any girl who wants to work in such an environment will gravitate to Artemis or a big bordello.

Other than that-I have no fucking idea.

AM

James 006

01-05-13, 22:22

Angus Magee

01-05-13, 22:54

I like to fuck striptease dancers. I've had good luck at strip clubs Tabou Bar and Rush Hour.

Does anyone have experience with other strip clubs in Berlin? I know unfortunately not about so many and if someone can post a list so I will appreciate it and write a report.Here are a few I could find. No guarantees as to quality.

http://www.club-liaison.de/seite2.htm

http://www.club-cleopatra-berlin.de/index.html

http://www.tabu-bar.de/

http://www.crazy-sexy-girls.de/galery.html

http://apropos24.info/

http://www.orchidclub.de/index.html

http://www.dancebar.de/

AM

Puttex

01-06-13, 02:06

I am after this to.

I like to go to a GOOD stripclub whit good looking girls and then after a lapdance have the chance to get a BJ och FS from the stripper at the club for resionable money.

Prague is very good for this but can I have some tips from you guys were I can do this in Berlin?

Very attractive strippers at a stripclub who also gives other services at the club?

Possible in Berlin?

AND, what stripclub in Berlin have the best looking young girls?

Here are a few I could find. No guarantees as to quality.

http://www.club-liaison.de/seite2.htm

http://www.club-cleopatra-berlin.de/index.html

http://www.tabu-bar.de/

http://www.crazy-sexy-girls.de/galery.html

http://apropos24.info/

http://www.orchidclub.de/index.html

http://www.dancebar.de/

AM

Angus Magee

01-06-13, 07:46

I am after this to.If you want a good strip club go to Texas. Berlin strip clubs are generally shit IMHO.

AM

Loick

01-06-13, 11:16

I am not sure what is the advantage of any of these "1st timer" beginner services. I think any well regarded bordello will suffice, even Artemis if you think that you can withstand the inevitable pressure tactics practiced by some of the girls there. In any case simply find a slightly older woman (25+ I would say) who appeals to you and seems "sympatic", in the French sense of the word. Tell her that it is your first time (whether your first time having sex or first time with a pro was not clear from your original post, in either case tell her) and off you go. The most important thing is that you have a little connection with her and that you do not expect the world to change just because you get laid by a hooker.

My only other piece of advise is that if you have a great time try not to fall in love and to immediately do it again with a different girl. This is, IMO, the greatest danger of a first timer who has a successful punt.

AMThank you Angus Magee for the advice. I'll plan to visit several addresses then, probably bordellos, not Artemis for this time.

It will be my first time having sex; how much time do you think is best to have a nice experience while avoiding wasting time / money? If I understood correctly, it's a bit hard to make a session longer than planned by paying again at the end of the planned time; it's best to tell first.

Should I tell it's my first time to the Hausdame or just to the girl in the room?

SwingerLover

01-06-13, 16:08

I am interested in the flatrate.For Flatrate you should check the Germany Partytreff Clubs forum here on ISG.

Angus Magee

01-06-13, 16:23

Thank you Angus Magee for the advice. I'll plan to visit several addresses then, probably bordellos, not Artemis for this time.

It will be my first time having sex; how much time do you think is best to have a nice experience while avoiding wasting time / money? If I understood correctly, it's a bit hard to make a session longer than planned by paying again at the end of the planned time; it's best to tell first.

Should I tell it's my first time to the Hausdame or just to the girl in the room?I dunno, maybe 45 mins? With an hour session you can always go twice. I guess I might tell the Hausmuttie and ask her to bring appropriate ladies but then again you might like to see all who are available. Just maybe steer clear of obvious really young looking girls.

AM

PunterWanderer

01-06-13, 21:59

Hi,

I remember when I went to Berlin in the past years, I used to open and close my visit to the Pussy Club of Schonefeld. It was a famous brothel which applied the so called "all inclusive" promotion: from 10. 00 to 16. 00 you had "all you can eat all you can drink and all you can f*k". Of course low quality but also low prices. Also for political reasons (the charge was exploiting prostitution) , it closed nearly two-three years ago.

Searching for info for my next (ninth) travel to Berlin in March, I found this interesting news:

http://www.airport-muschis.de/home/

The same adress, Mittelstrasse, near the airport of Schonefeld, and the same politics: all inclusive. IMHO also the same website. So, it sounds interesting to me, but also weird that it has been reopen a brothel with the same formula beacuse of it had been closed.

Any news? Somebody has tried Airpor Muschis? In any case, I think I will give it a chance.

Puttex

01-07-13, 02:39

Angus Magee

01-07-13, 12:49

Can someone help me to post some adresses to the sexkions in Berlin?

I know there are some places were you can take a girl into the kino and while you watch the movie she does her job on you?

Any "Berlin-expert" know what places I talk about?You will find some addresses here on an older club guide I wrote.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=776559&viewfull=1#post776559

I think some of the links may be out of date but the street addresses are still good to go. These places don't change much over the years which is both good and bad. There may also be some links in my Berlin Guide on my blog.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?cat=62

You might try google-ing "berlin sex kinos" for more current web addresses. There are many sex kinos in Berlin it depends where you are and where you want to travel to which one you visit. Most of them are similar with perhaps just a little variation in the amount of sleaze you will encounter. In any case don't expect much in the way of quality. If lucky you find a horny not too ugly EE lady. If you are unlucky...beat not think of that.

AM

PS You might also find this handy to find all sorts of paid sex places. Kinos are on here under brothels I think. You have to search

http://yapis.eu/?id=9&feature=nightclub,massage,brothel&lat=52.5&lon=13.4&zoom=12

Angus Magee

01-07-13, 12:53

Any news? Somebody has tried Airpor Muschis? In any case, I think I will give it a chance.No real news except that it apparently still operates. It is also known as the Club Exotica though the website for Club Exotica seems to be off line. I have never heard much good about this place. But then I never heard much good about it when it was the Pussy Club either but you seemed to have enjoyed it then. I can not be much different in either way.

Check it out and report back.

AM

PunterWanderer

01-07-13, 14:07

Check it out and report back.

AMDon't worry, I organize a three days in March in Berlin and I am planning all the stages. I want to try something new, and so I'll try a Berliner Puff and surely, out of curiosity, this brothel without too much pretension. I think that I will test also "Le Folie", that I've never tried before.

It is true, on average, the quality of the Pussy Club was low, however, some girl was not bad at all, and then the formula was too inviting and had become almost a tradition for me.

Other similar brothels in Berlin are King George and Caligula, also with flat-rate tariffs. Of course, at the expense of the girl's performance (and in many cases also beauty) , but still funny.

Finite

01-09-13, 18:55

Don't worry, I organize a three days in March in Berlin and I am planning all the stages. I want to try something new, and so I'll try a Berliner Puff and surely, out of curiosity, this brothel without too much pretension. I think that I will test also "Le Folie", that I've never tried before.

It is true, on average, the quality of the Pussy Club was low, however, some girl was not bad at all, and then the formula was too inviting and had become almost a tradition for me.

Other similar brothels in Berlin are King George and Caligula, also with flat-rate tariffs. Of course, at the expense of the girl's performance (and in many cases also beauty) , but still funny.Regarding Caligula, When I visited the brothel on the same street, I walked past the place and thought it could be fun to maybe try it out. I also like to see new things, for the excitement of it. Even though it most certainly not bee a super-good experience. Anyways I strolled past the place down to the crossing, where there's a beercafé. This was during the summer, so people where sitting outside. At the Café there where a large group of neo-nazis partying, so I gave up the idea of visiting the place, thinking they where probably heading for Caligula after they had a few more beers. I'm as white as them, but I'm not especially found of that sort of people. But what do I know, maybe they where not heading there at all, otherwise the area seemed to be rather friendly.

Eszpresszo

01-09-13, 19:36

If you want a good strip club go to Texas. Berlin strip clubs are generally shit IMHO.

AMCouldn't agree more, Angus. In fact, I spent part of yesterday inside one such establishment, enjoying the great, FREE lunch buffet, no cover, and bevy of attractive girls. Many girls who dance in Texas commute from out of state, and some from abraod because Texas is a good place to be a dancer these days. However, after paying $20 for a good lap dance yesterday, the sweet young thing invited me to one of the back rooms for only $145 and no specifics of what what go on. I decided to save the cash for my trip to Berlin this spring, where I expect that kind of cash will buy more with more specifics of what I'm getting upfront.

Angus Magee

01-10-13, 07:37

But what do I know, maybe they where not heading there at all, otherwise the area seemed to be rather friendly.In that area they could of easily have been a group of gay men with a butch / skinhead look. This is really in the heart of Berlin's gay ghetto as is evident by a walk down Fuggerstr. At night.

AM

Neutron Flux

01-10-13, 08:50

Angus is correct, there are a hell lot of gay cafes, bars, clubs and shops in that area, evident by the people and the rainbow flags, even a gay pharmacy. Quite odd at times, when you go to Liberty past all the gays, haha. I doubt any nazis would gather there in large numbers, they were almost certainly skinhead gays.

Finite

01-10-13, 13:03

In that area they could of easily have been a group of gay men with a butch / skinhead look. This is really in the heart of Berlin's gay ghetto as is evident by a walk down Fuggerstr. At night.

AMI'm aware of that, it's even marketed as just that in many tourist brochures. Still I didn't get that vibe, when I walked past the Café with the skin-heads. But what the hell, I could be wrong. It has happend before. And the post had nothing to do about it being a dangerous neighborhood, beacause it is not. Just a reason why I didn't walk into Caligula that time. For me the flat-rate scen is probably nothing I would really enjoy. But sometimes the excitement of walking in to something / places that are a bit shady is fun. For example it can be fun to take a stroll down Kurförstenstrasse to Potsdamerstrasse late at night looking at the SW:s, even if I have no intent to purchase the goods.

For example on my next trip I will check out the Cafe psst, maybe not that shady, but it will be interesting.

Eyali

01-13-13, 16:45

Rocketboy0

01-14-13, 10:16

I tried to do a search here for what to do and where to go and I got lost.Anyone can assist me and recommend what will be the best to do in only 3 days in Berlin?3 days: depends on the days, and your budget. Assuming Fri-Sun, Friday (you did not say)-try the better bordellos during the day (van Kampen, Liberty, Royal, Kamilla Dee, Prestige, Mon Rouge) , then Artemis at night.

Saturday bordells not at full strength but you never know , Artemis quieter during the day (though some like that) good from 18:00 onwards. Would be good to hit it Friday to see if it is your thing as it would affect Sat-Sun. Plans. Sunday a lot quieter everywhere obviously and Artemis probably best bet for P4P though it will not be as good as Fri-Sat. Insomnia club for the gang bang pervies (search for it). Bars.plenty, just a matter of taste. Use Time Out, Lonely Planet, World Best Bars website. Mega discos Berghain-Panorama Bar, Watergate are legendary. Lots of good live music around in smaller venues. Angus Magee (just search) blog the bible for bordellos and intro to Artemis. The Forum here and the Artemis thread has up to the minute field reports. Do your homework, esp visit the bordellos websites, see who is actually around when you are, and call ahead to check schedules. English not a problem. You need not book in advance (I am a big believer in chemistry and talking first) but you can minimise needless running around. The websites will give you an idea of prices so you can plan budget etc. Report back so we will feel it's worth divulging our years of hard work...

Eyali

01-14-13, 21:16

Hi,

Needs your assistance for recommendation for a short visit over the weekend.

Places must visit (FKK, Massage, Strip clubs, etc.)

Good bars with a chance of find something.

Thanks!

Finite

01-14-13, 22:48

Hi all,

I tried to do a search here for what to do and where to go and I got lost.

Anyone can assist me and recommend what will be the best to do in only 3 days in Berlin?

FKK clubs?

Good bars with Women?

Or anything else that is recommended.

Thank you.I would set a side one day for Artemis, if you like the FKK-concept. There is also a smaller FKK in the city [La Folie], never tried it, but there's some reviews on the forum. To be at the same place for the whole weekend is a bad idea in my opinion, especially if you haven't visited Berlin before. There are a lot of other fun stuff to do in the city. See Rocketboys post, Berghain is a special experience if you never been to a place like this before. If you like live rockmusic, it sometimes can be nice at the White Trash resturant in Mitte / east side. As for the p4p-alternatives when it comes to bars, I'm also interested. Seen some reports from a forumist called Belvaros, I think the places he wrote about was places in Mitte.

Kimino

01-15-13, 17:58

If you like live rockmusic, it sometimes can be nice at the White Trash resturant in Mitte / east side.thanks for the suggestion Finite.

Kimino

Eyali

01-15-13, 20:30

3 days: depends on the days, and your budget. Assuming Fri-Sun, Friday (you did not say).try the better bordellos during the day (van Kampen, Liberty, Royal, Kamilla Dee, Prestige, Mon Rouge) , then Artemis at night.

Saturday bordells not at full strength but you never know, Artemis quieter during the day (though some like that) good from 18:00 onwards. Would be good to hit it Friday to see if it is your thing as it would affect Sat-Sun. Plans. Sunday a lot quieter everywhere obviously and Artemis probably best bet for P4P though it will not be as good as Fri-Sat. Insomnia club for the gang bang pervies (search for it). Bars. Plenty, just a matter of taste. Use Time Out, Lonely Planet, World Best Bars website. Mega discos Berghain-Panorama Bar, Watergate are legendary. Lots of good live music around in smaller venues. Angus Magee (just search) blog the bible for bordellos and intro to Artemis. The Forum here and the Artemis thread has up to the minute field reports. Do your homework, esp visit the bordellos websites, see who is actually around when you are, and call ahead to check schedules. English not a problem. You need not book in advance (I am a big believer in chemistry and talking first) but you can minimise needless running around. The websites will give you an idea of prices so you can plan budget etc. Report back so we will feel it's worth divulging our years of hard work.Thank you for the assistance, I'll arrive Thursday morning and will leave Sunday morning.

Finite

01-16-13, 00:40

Hi,

Needs your assistance for recommendation for a short visit over the weekend.

Places must visit (FKK, Massage, Strip clubs, etc.)

Good bars with a chance of find something.

Thanks!Here's the post I mentioned earlier [Bars, where there somtimes are WG:s].

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1310008&viewfull=1#post1310008

Is there anyone that knows of any similar places on the other side of town [Schöneberg, Wilmersdorf or Charlottenburg]?

Finite

01-16-13, 01:00

thanks for the suggestion Finite.

KiminoWas a litle bit unsure if I should have mentioned the place since there prob. No WG:s there. Berlin is a verry mongerfriendly city, you don't have to work hard at all to find good P4P-venues, which is nothing to complain about. But sometimes it gets a bit boring, for me the hunt can be as excitng as the sex-part. To bad the hobbyhuren in the bars seems to have quit high prices, otherwise it seems like a fun way to party.

Rocketboy0

01-20-13, 10:55

From the local BZ paper, some rumblings about flatrate bordellos and even the Erlebnisw, as overheard in an Artemis discussion:

http://www.bz-berlin.de/aktuell/berlin/gruene-flatrate-bordelle-sollen-dichtmachen-article1620742.html

Loosely and poorly translated by Herr Doktor Google:

Greens: Close flatrate brothels 14th January 2013 Regulator offices should monitor closely and operating permits are issued again in the future. Prostitute in a brothel Only 99 euros and to pay closing time with so many prostitutes and as often as you want to have sex. Drinks included! So two Berlin brothels woo suitors. For the Greens cynical business model. You want flat-clubs now falling Edison therefore the red light."Here, women are offered as the cheapest mass-merchandise" complains the Green MEP Anja Kofbinger (53)."It does indeed hardly profit if a suitor with a prostitute in the room is six times and only once paid. It in doubt deserves the brothel." The woman spokesperson of the Greens therefore demands that the two all-inclusive brothels are tightly controlled by industry and regulatory agencies. If it appears that the prostitutes work for dumping wages, the operation must be closed immediately. Already in 2009 had provided a flat rate club in Schönefeld stir. There and at other stores in the chain, there were raids across Germany. Behind nine men were sentenced to several years in prison. For [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) and embezzlement of millions of dollars in wages."We run everything lawful," said the head of the "King George". One of the two flat-Berlin brothels."None of our ladies working under duress," he says."Half of the entry fees goes into the women's fund and will be divided among them." Moreover, most would-free during a visit in any case only have sex twice. Anja Kofbinger does not think so."I will work for legislation that it does not even allow to open such an operation," she says.

It seems they are more concerned with wages than other moral aspects. Anyway, this debate has been going on for a while.
See 2009 article https://www.taz.de/!38214/

A classic test for free marketeers vs government regulations of labor markets. Disclosure: RB has never been to any, and would not, as the model is is not his thing. Just reporting the facts, mam.

EastGoing

01-20-13, 18:53

No! Wait! I'm coming to Berlin in a couple of months! My first time mongering in Germany! Flatrate clubs are my main target! I'm going to try Artemis only once, just for the experience, because I don't want to spend hundreds of euros in one go. I've been reading german threads for so long, so many mongers' triumphs, that I decided I had to visit this sex-heaven country inspite of being more keen on EE "adventures". Anyway, anything will do, kinos (curious to see) , private flats, SW, whatever can give me satisfaction at a reasonable price (not 80euros +60+extras multiplied for a few times).

I would like to take this occasion to thank all the major contributors of this thread, hoping you carry on with your helpful posts that are fundamental for all the readers. In the meantime I'll keep on reading here to gather more infos, possibly also about the flatrate clubs, meaning like King George, one-on-one, not gangbangs or swingers.

Wir sehen uns bald (google translated)

Angus Magee

01-20-13, 19:42

I would not worry. No matter what eventually happens I seriously doubt it would happen for a while. This is Germany and there are a whole lot of procedures to go through before anyone makes any changes like closing bordellos of any sort.

AM

Rocketboy0

01-21-13, 10:10

My first time mongering in Germany! Flatrate clubs are my main target! I'm going to try Artemis only once, just for the experience, because I don't want to spend hundreds of euros in one go.You will still be able to flatline it for sure in a few months. Just remember, the "value" bit is highly personal and subjective. Personally, I would spend a little more for one great session with a serious looker, where I felt some connection, vs what goes on in the mass boofing buffets. Some guys just need to bang 5 girls a day, before they feel fulfilled. Fine. And there may well be diamonds in the rough in these fuck factories. But you really cannot compare the experience-so in say Caligula you can have 5+ for 99, and in Artemis 2 for 200 (total entry 80 + 2 x 30 min sessions at 60 each). But you also can hang all day and night, relax, get 2 meals, sauna, swim, and just enjoy the vibe of watching up to 70+ naked girls, take your time, talk, flirt, read, watch football, hang with other mongers, get financial or shoe shopping or decorating advice, etc.

By all accounts, the women and the cleanliness scene are a hell of a lot nicer in Artemis than in Sodom and Gommoraland. Of course some just like the sleazy bit. Again fine. Just go to Artemis on a strong night- Thurs thru Sat.for a full lineup. You can of course lounge around during the quieter day time and there are perhaps 20 or so on, but it only after 730-8pm that the house is at full 70+ strength.

As Dr Wanking and others have documented, there are plenty of other inexpensive group grope alternatives like Erlebniswohnung or Insomnia. Just not my thing for reasons of taste, but also health. I do believe there are higher risks of viral things happening at these places and choose not to mess with it. Others disagree-these are personal choices.

IMHO the better private apartment bordellos have the best girls-but the obvious downside of being more costly, you can't hang out and must choose fairly quickly, and it is more hit and miss who will be available and when, and more running around the city vs the target rich environments of the larger clubs. Then there are the hundreds of indie girls, and the other smaller downmarket bordells as Angus Magee's blog details. Sometimes quite interesting, sometimes disastrous. Just a lot more running around and hit and miss. All different value propositions and only you can decide the relative "worth". Just report back when you are done so you give something back to the Forum as well. Happy trails.

SwedishAssMan

01-21-13, 12:52

Hi mongers! I visited Berlin last year and spent awonderful 2 days at Artemis. A real eye opener, my first time at FKK club. It was expensive but worth it, as everyone points out. The best for me was sex in the Kino room. Felt like a Roman orgy fucking there while others were getting sucked off and looking on. I plan another day there soon but wondered if anyone had tips for the best value place for anal in a club or brothel in the general area of West Berlin / Charlottenburg. I did that once in Artemis but it was 100E extra which is a bit rich. I know 40E seems to be a more normal add-on at other places, but what is the best place and even better, tips on a particular lady (who really likes that)? Great also if it is easily walking / accessible from a train station.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Bargainshunter

01-21-13, 13:45

If you want a good strip club go to Texas. Berlin strip clubs are generally shit IMHO.

AMDo you have a link to it?

Angus Magee

01-21-13, 17:17

Do you have a link to it?Sorry no. Try the USA guide connected with the ISG. All I meant is that in general there are much better locals for strip clubs than Berlin, Texas being one of them. Here you have bordellos and FKK which is fine by me.

A

Wanking

01-21-13, 18:57

As Dr Wanking and others have documented, there are plenty of other inexpensive group grope alternatives like Erlebniswohnung or Insomnia. Just not my thing for reasons of taste, but also health. I do believe there are higher risks of viral things happening at these places and choose not to mess with it. Others disagree-these are personal choices.I love both FKKs and Flatrate. The reason I do mostly cheap flatrate clubs is to save money, simple as. If I had more money I would spend more time in FKK clubs. I often spend a day in an FKK after a full day in a flatrate on the previous day, which works well because I am not as horny on day 2 and therefore 1 or 2 session will satisfy me in the FKK, after cumming maybe 5 times with 8 to 10 women the previous day in the Flatrate.

Thing is I wouldn't be happy only having 1 or 2 sessions in an FKK on the first day of my trip if I hadn't fucked for a month or two previously, and I don't want to pay 5 or 6 individual session along with entry which could hit me for maybe €400, SO I always go to Flatrate on day 1.

Over the last year I have been going to cheap party called Cleopatra Arena which is near Dusseldorf. I have been going there on the first day of my trip. They usually have 4 bareback girls along 4 to 6 Covered girls, and most sessions are in private rooms plus the service is pretty good. When you leave the club they give you a €25 discount card for your next visit. On my last visit in December I only paid €54 for a day of sex along with the discount card, this was the price for covered sex only, but being the sneaky ole bastard that I am, I still managed a few bareback sessions LOL. Now €54 for a whole day of sex with 8 women, and 12 sessions I can live with. I like Cheap LOL! You can read about it here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3243-Cleopatra-Arena-Gelsenkirchen&p=1369052&viewfull=1#post1369052

Angus Magee

01-21-13, 19:53

Now €54 for a whole day of sex with 8 women, and 12 sessions I can live with. I like Cheap LOL!Wow, this has to be some kind of record-at least for western sensibilities.

For me I have to say I wish that I could be satisfied with a flat rate club and the girls found within. Unfortunately I find that I simply can not complete a session with a girl if I sense her complete disinterest. I know that the better looking Artemis girls might also be disinterested but they at least (some of them) put on a good show. When I went to the KG is went with 5 girls and only really finished with one of them. No big deal because the price was cheap but for me it ends up as a false economy.

But as I have said before, I love reading of your exploits WK and always appreciate the enthusiasm you show for the hobby.

AM

Finite

01-21-13, 20:45

Wow, this has to be some kind of record-at least for western sensibilities.

For me I have to say I wish that I could be satisfied with a flat rate club and the girls found within. Unfortunately I find that I simply can not complete a session with a girl if I sense her complete disinterest. I know that the better looking Artemis girls might also be disinterested but they at least (some of them) put on a good show. When I went to the KG is went with 5 girls and only really finished with one of them. No big deal because the price was cheap but for me it ends up as a false economy.

But as I have said before, I love reading of your exploits WK and always appreciate the enthusiasm you show for the hobby.

AMIt's not always true that an "optifick" doesn't perform as well, as a less beutiful girl. But off course a not so good looking girl can't afford the luxuary to not pretend she enjoys her work.

Hi mongers! I visited Berlin last year and spent awonderful 2 days at Artemis. A real eye opener, my first time at FKK club. It was expensive but worth it, as everyone points out. The best for me was sex in the Kino room. Felt like a Roman orgy fucking there while others were getting sucked off and looking on. I plan another day there soon but wondered if anyone had tips for the best value place for anal in a club or brothel in the general area of West Berlin / Charlottenburg. I did that once in Artemis but it was 100E extra which is a bit rich. I know 40E seems to be a more normal add-on at other places, but what is the best place and even better, tips on a particular lady (who really likes that)? Great also if it is easily walking / accessible from a train station.A 160€ for anal + ordinary "ficken und blasen" is a good price, especially compared to what you would have to pay in Sweden. Take a look at the google map project and you will find a couple of mid-ranged bordellos where you can find this extra fairly cheap.

EastGoing

01-21-13, 21:05

Thanks for your advice Rocketboy0, I understand what you mean and it is reasonable, but I'm totally by Wanking's side about the mathematics. To start off, I can't figure out what it will be like to me to step into a place where there are some 20 (can't imagine 70!) naked Beautiful (mind the "B") girls available, maybe I'll bang my head against the ceiling! I risk to go crazy more than a child in funfair or toyshop! If any of you is going to be there that day, he will probably guess which one of the other guys is me! LOL!

Where I live I'm used to SW and, when I travel, to apartments, normally 3-4 girls when they are too many, and rarely the choice is that difficult, plus I don't go to strip clubs (where you have many girls around) , and my latest closest experience to a FKK was in Castel De Fels, Barcelona, in the famous Riviera club, in 2001!

My intention in Artemis is to stay as shortly as possible. I don't mean to brag my performances, I don't take pills but I'm a sort of machine, crazy for sex and Beautiful girls. I couldn't hang around just talking, watching, or relaxing somehow being surrounded by all those treasures, I would like to get as many as I can, a financial disaster. Also I have the problem of condoms, often I don't release because I don't feel that much. 30 mins is a risky allowance, I may unload with the first girl, but with the others it would be frustrating and costly to try further shots. I read in pain about the AO options, but I'm not ready for them yet.

For my trip I budgeted max 1 "payment" a day, apart the day in Artemis. For the rest I'll be a sightseeing tourist, this meaning that the most of my days will have sex only for some 30-45 mins, bloody 80 euros minimum expense as far as I can guess. In Bucharest, with that much, I can afford, just to give you a clue, accommodation, meals, taxis and a couple of girls. Honestly, for roughly 20 euros, not too often I come across the girls that supposedly can be found in an average FKK, but still I'm happy, being Romanian girls on average of satisfying beauty, as you all probably know. I reckon that buying by the peasant is cheaper than buying by the greengrocer.

Wanking, Angus, please post about Caligula and King George, which are the only 2 flatrate open in Berlin at the moment, as far as I know. I read german threads very often, but it's hard to go through thousands of post.

One question: do they include BBBJ? I understand Caligula's site says CBJ. If it's extra, how does it work? Must "tip" every girl? How much?

Needless to say, I'll post my achievements once done.

Thank you for your attention

Angus Magee

01-21-13, 22:23

Wanking, Angus, please post about Caligula and King George, which are the only 2 flatrate open in Berlin at the moment, as far as I know. I read german threads very often, but it's hard to go through thousands of post.

One question: do they include BBBJ? I understand Caligula's site says CBJ. If it's extra, how does it work? Must "tip" every girl? How much?I am pretty sure most these questions are answered in various posts on the forum if you take a look back at older posts. Or maybe WK has the energy to repeat himself? Not sure if he actually made it to Caligula or KG though. But for inexpensive experiences with quantity as the defining factor he is your man in the hot seat.

As for my one KG experience you can find it linked through my blog.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=310

AM

Neutron Flux

01-21-13, 22:23

Now €54 for a whole day of sex with 8 womenSo that's on average less than 7 euros per girl. Not to take away from your adventures but that's actually a good example of what was quoted below, the political pressure put upon these venues, and that many Germans cannot comprehend that there would be many girls there working under their more or less free will. And I must admit, this includes me to some degree. I mean, even aside from such an extreme example, if you do the math you'll easily see that in these flatrate clubs the girls are simply not able to cut out much more than the would if they'd do some other crap job taking into account that the club also has to pay for the facilities, has to pay various taxes and wants to cut out some profit. That many girls would be inclined to sell pussy there without massive pressure from somewhere is a little bit beyond my comprehension. Yeah sure, there's the occasional nympho, but those are by far not enough to populate all these clubs, and yes, there's no need to tell me about all that goes wrong in apartment places and especially FKK clubs too, but I would certainly expect this to be much pronounced in these venues. Just my 2c.

Finite, FWIW, I'm going out in Berlin ever since the glorious days of the early 90s, I mean, not all the time, I never fully lived in Berlin, and in recent years I'm stuck in a pile of work most of the time I'm there, and in the early days I might've been a bit too naive to spot things like these, but anyway what I wanted to say: I can not recall that ever came across any obvious WGs in any regular club or bar venue in Berlin. So if there's a scene out there it's certainly not big and / or confined to places where regular guys cannot get or cannot afford to get into. Sure, with enough seduction skills anything is possible, but why would one want to do that if you have to pay for it in the end anyway? Much better to try for freebies in the vast Berlin scene IMO. The WGs in regular clubs thing, for me this has also been something that you find predominantly in third world countries and holiday destinations.

Rocketboy0

01-21-13, 23:16

I'm totally by Wanking's side about the mathematics. To start off, I can't figure out what it will be like to me to step into a place where there are some 20 (can't imagine 70!) naked Beautiful (mind the "B") girls available, maybe I'll bang my head against the ceiling!Far be it from me to speak for Dr Wan but he is taps into a deep spiritual zone that few can match or understand (probably including himself). None of that takes away what a lovable character he is. By the way his new flavor of the week club http://www.cleopatra-arena.de/start.htm has one of the snappiest staff graphics around and worth a look.

Anyway, as I said to each his own-just remember that there is more to life than mathematics. And on the numbers front - things are what they are and Berlin costs are Berlin costs. If Bucharest is so much cheaper (and of course we here all the time how much better it is in Kiev, or Zurich, or Frankfurt, or Madrid, or Bangkok, or those wild Klingon bars), well there is where you should go assuming of course the girls and service are as nice (which actually I kind of doubt). You can always find action that costs more and some which costs less. I think Berlin has a pretty good sweet spot of hot girls, eager to please, not too expensive, safe places, and good overall vibe, but it does not matter really - it is what it is.

My intention in Artemis is to stay as shortly as possible. I don't mean to brag my performances, I don't take pills but I'm a sort of machine, crazy for sex and Beautiful girls. I couldn't hang around just talking, watching, or relaxing somehow being surrounded by all those treasures, I would like to get as many as I can, a financial disaster. Also I have the problem of condoms, often I don't release because I don't feel that much. 30 mins is a risky allowance, I may unload with the first girl, but with the others it would be frustrating and costly to try further shots.A man-crazy for sex and beautiful girls-puts you into quite an elite club (say perhaps only 90% of the planet's male population past the age of 12). Just get a grip man. I mean what kind of goal is it to stay at a club for "as short a time as possible"? The most efficient solution is obviously, don't go. Just watch youTube videos of it, for free.

Then (this works best if you don't breathe while reading it out loud slowly) you are a (modest) machine and just go crazy with girls but then condoms are a drag and the "machine" does not always work and there is all this pressure to cum and so somehow the answer is the sexual smorgesborg of Caligula, presumably so that if things don't work out, not so many Euros down the toilet. Quite the logic package.

Anyway-I would head to Insomnia before any of the others, just because for roughly the same price, it's got a better clientele, and cleaner, and more entertaining. In any case, you can get BBBJs in all places, depending upon the girl and mood, for anywhere from free to 20-30 Eur in the Cali KG scene. Nothing would turn me on more than knowing some provider has blown BB 20 other guys that day, or in the past hour, maybe with a little AO thrown in - I mean it just does not get much better than that does it? And all for so little cost (well at least up front). There are different tastes, and then there are tastes which really taste differently.....

Although Wanking, our esteemed Zimmerbaby, and some others should weigh in on Erlebniswohnung. all these places IMHO have additional risks with lots of fluids flying around, and I am not prepared to run them. One thing you must understand-such things are very different when one is a single man vs having a partner. Many of our more daring muschi mattadors are indeed single, freebirds.

On the condom front, there is something simple and sensible you can do. Bring your own, which can fit better and be more sensitive (I find non-latex such as urethane based materials far more pleasurable than the usual latex trash bags).

Seems like maybe a day at the Love Bahnhoff where you just chill, slow down, hit the sauna and pool, develop a little distance and discipline, relax and learn to maybe enjoy the show and the ride vs the destination might be just the thing. Maybe even the cost might help you choose more wisely? Anyway-try both and let us know how you survive. Good luck with it all.

SwedishAssMan

01-21-13, 23:27

Thanks. Do you mind if I ask is there a specific google map project you are referring to? Sounds interesting.

What I meant by expensive is that at Artemis you pay also the admission 80E so if you are only looking for one shag than 240E is quite expensive just to get some anal. Kamilla Dee brothel sounds good maybe. Not sure yet how close that is to where I will be in Charlottenburg.

A 160€ for anal + ordinary "ficken und blasen" is a good price, especially compared to what you would have to pay in Sweden. Take a look at the google map project and you will find a couple of mid-ranged bordellos where you can find this extra fairly cheap.

Finite

01-22-13, 00:34

I am pretty sure most these questions are answered in various posts on the forum if you take a look back at older posts. Or maybe WK has the energy to repeat himself? Not sure if he actually made it to Caligula or KG though. But for inexpensive experiences with quantity as the defining factor he is your man in the hot seat.

As for my one KG experience you can find it linked through my blog.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=310

AMI have now read your report, and it was very well-written, entertaining and also funny. KG:s seem a litle more "posh" than Caligula, at least when just comparing the interior of the club [from what I can see, looking at their webpage]. After reading the report I can also constatate that these types of establishments [flat-rates] are not for me. As discussed earlier in the thread what would be intresting are some type of "boutiqe bordello" where you could have drinks at moderate prices, and picking up nice working girls. Maybe La Folie is the closest thing to being just that, it doesn't seem like a regular FKK, looking at their website. I mean they don't show any pictures or talk about the wellness part on their site [sauna, bath or massage] at all. And that's not so important to me, but it seems quite strange to take a shower and undress just to be able to hang out in a bar. I can understand the showering part before and after sexual activities, but otherwise not this concept.

Angus Magee

01-22-13, 00:51

. Maybe La Folie is the closest thing to being just that, it doesn't seem like a regular FKK, looking at their website. I mean they don't show any pictures or talk about the wellness part on their site [sauna, bath or massage] at all. And that's not so important to me, but it seems quite strange to take a shower and undress just to be able to hang out in a bar. I can understand the showering part before and after sexual activities, but otherwise not this concept.La Folie is a bar with FKK overtones. You enter, disrobe completely and sit in the bar with nothing but a small towel which is for covering the bar stool, not your johnson (penis). While the entry fee is much cheaper than Artemis (€14 last time I checked) the quality of girls is lower and the room price and extra prices are similar to Artemis, maybe a bit cheaper on the extras. One can easily spend €200 there in an evening for a couple of sessions. So in the end it is not that much better price wise than Artemis and the facilities , and as mentioned the girls, are generally disappointing. Plus they do the piccolo game (buy me a picolo) which is simply annoying unless you really do want to buy the girl a €25 bottle of bad sparkling wine.

Not really recommended.

I think for discount sex Erlebniswohunung might be the best bet as by all reports the girls there are acceptable to all but the most picky mongers (i.e Rocketboy) What keeps me away is that it is a gangbang atmosphere which kind of turns me off. I like alone time with the ladies.

You might also look into L'amour2a. While not really top deck they do harbour some cuties and have a bar for some face time before deciding if you want that.

http://www.lamour2a.de/

Also Apropos, a bar connected to La Dolce Vita II on Neuköln. I have not been there in a long time but remember they did have some cuties from time to time.

http://apropos24.info/index.html

AM

Finite

01-22-13, 01:07

La Folie is a bar with FKK overtones. You enter, disrobe completely and sit in the bar with nothing but a small towel which is for covering the bar stool, not your johnson (penis). While the entry fee is much cheaper than Artemis (€14 last time I checked) the quality of girls is lower and the room price and extra prices are similar to Artemis, maybe a bit cheaper on the extras. One can easily spend €200 there in an evening for a couple of sessions. So in the end it is not that much better price wise than Artemis and the facilities and, as mentioned the girls, are generally disappointing. Plus they do the piccolo game (buy me a picolo) which is simply annoying unless you really do want to buy the girl a €25 bottle of bad sparkling wine.

Not really recommended.

I think fr discount sex Erlebniswohunung might be the best bet as by all reports the girls there are acceptable to all but the most picky mongers (I. E Rocketboy) What keeps me away is that it is a gangbang atmosphere which kind of turns me off. I like alone time with the ladies.

AMHmm. Not at all what I'm looking for, even though the "picolo game" and sex are fairly cheap in Germany. Lost a lot of money in Barcelona in a up-scale puticlub that way. Neither I are in to gangbangs, and the price isn't such a big issue for me, but I don't want to over-pay. Artemis is the safe choice off course, but it has it's disadvantages also [high priced drinks, and I don't like it when it's over-crowded].

You might also look into L'amour2a. While not really top deck they do harbour some cuties and have a bar for some face time before deciding if you want that.

http://www.lamour2a.de/

Also Apropos, a bar connected to La Dolce Vita II on Neuköln. I have not been there in a long time but remember they did have some cuties from time to time.

http://apropos24.info/index.html

I'll do a report on La Dolce Vita II, when i visit Berlin next time.

EastGoing

01-22-13, 05:46

Angus,

I state in advance that what I'm writing must be taken with a smile, since I don't mean to offend or upset anyone, I'm glad and grateful to get responses to my questions (me myself have answered on the forum RTFF to newbies asking things that were written a few lines underneath, but Germany threads are immense) and I'm not good at using computer and ISG's bugs (I don't know how to quote a part of a post and I can't manage to use smilies, not even by punctuation) , so please excuse me and remember to imagine a smilie at the end of each sentence.

I've read your report (and some following it) about Caligula, funny to click for your blog to click back for page 149 (did you really want me to go back reading that far?) of ISG. Is that a way to advertise your blog? Anyway it's a great report, even if written by a man who got drunk after being cheated by a water-pouring cocktail bartender. Luckily you live 3 mins away, which means you can anyway give daily updates!

Back to seriousness, you lowered my 'enthusiasm' for this kind of experience. However I'the like to know the length of a standard session. I mean, if you haven't unloaded, how much time can you stay with the same girl? I remember in the past an answer reckoning some 20 mins, not enough for quick men either, if that's correct.

Thanks, Cheers

EastGoing

01-22-13, 06:11

Rocketboy0,

I thank you for your infos and opinions, which I respect and already said I find reasonable. Opinions can be as important as mere numbers, since they help to fulfill infos. I agree on many things you say, but I think you put some 'bad pepper', really not needed, on what I say, think or need.

Obviously to each is own, it works for you and it must work for everyone, including me. Luckily for you, maybe you live in Germany, so you are used to great facilities, wide choice, etc, in short all diamonds. I'm used to much much less, so I'm a bit basic and rough, I just want it and go for it, I don't claim that my ways are better than yours, it's just that we are set for (and prone to) different caterings. At the moment, my intention is to come just once to Germany, to put the flag on my risiko collection as a 'normal' tourist and for the various sex experiences, some probably unique or nearly unique, that can be had. Honestly at the moment I think I might do a second trip in a far future just for AO, because I find Germany too costly for me, meaning needs, ratios, desires, etc. If I find it that good, I'll obviously come back more times.

By the way, to scratch off some pepper:

I'the say only Bangkok, among the cities you mentioned, can be said to be, at least in the overall, a good or better alternative;

Bucharest is where I plan to go back many times between other 'just once' trips. Don't forget, if you didn't realize it yet, that Romania is the factory and main supplier of your dolls, in Bucharest I don't have to pay "VAT" and other "surcharges". Maybe the service won't be the same, but it's just a 'maybe', and for what it costs over there it is not even a big worry, I read complaints also in Germany's threads, and probably the disappointment is bigger due to their costs;

About being sex-crazy, in the previous post I've put it in a laughing way, but if you can concentrate on watching a football match or swimming in a pool while being surrounded by 70+ naked Beautiful available girls, probably you have less hormones than me, or you are so used to it that you don't mind pussies anymore. I'm not used, but I think I'the never be used enough;

About liking B-eautiful girls, well, I know so many men who go with whatever can breathe and are happy and satisfied that I thought about declaring my preference. I've seen many internet sites of German 'sex providers', and seen plenty of women I wouldn't touch. For instance, to be honest, I wasn't impressed by the girls in the photos on Caligula and King George's sites;

My 'modest' statement of being a machine was referred to erection, time I can last before unloading (if) , time I need to recover (normally I remain hard) , not to the times I can release. I just wrote that to 'justify' my needs and requests, not to brag or set up discussions, comparisons, etc. I honestly wonder how a man can release (and what? One drop?) 6, 8, or more times in one day, but I don't question it. To each his own.

Clarified these points, I agree and share your concerns about diseases and swingers (which also would turn off my machine since it works without other cocks or eyes around) , but not about BBBJ. It may seem uncoherent, but, once again, it's my way: I love it, I feel it, I know it's not terribly dangerous. Anyway I don't want to live on wanks or just condoms that so severely limit my sexual pleasure.

Summing up, I'll come to Germany for my overall pleasure and for trying some new experiences, that's it. My thoughts, my needs, my evaluations are just my own, whether agreeable or not.

The purpose of this forum is to provide and exchange infos, my purpose is not to create arguments or unnecessary debates. So, once again, thanks to you and to those who report. I'll do mine ones after returning.

Respectfully,

EG

Rocketboy0

01-22-13, 10:05

I've seen many internet sites of German 'sex providers', and seen plenty of women I wouldn't touch. For instance, to be honest, I wasn't impressed by the girls in the photos on Caligula and King George's sitesE-Now you have indeed grasped the subtle concept. Think about what kind of girls this business model attracts, and just decide if it is for you.

As others (and me) have suggested, if you really want to go this route, Insomnia or Erlebniswohnung are possibly other options. I did try the former as I reported; I would not try the latter, but many rave about them as you can see from their various Forum comments.

Look my intent is absolutely not to prescribe how others should get their kicks- just to point out the implications of choices. The various options have sprung up, responding to different markets. I assure you I have no illusions about P4P and as I said repeatedly, to each his own. I have a German mate who loves Caligula, and he dragged a friend to it. He was disgusted and left without spilling a drop, though 99 Eur less in his pocket. I enjoy both of their company, and how they tell the story. I have heard enough that I am not remotely curious. I simply find life sleazy enough without having to pay for it. But I recognize others get off on it. If that is your thing, fine. Just know what you are literally getting into.

I just wanted to say that there might be another level to your play if you thought more about quality vs quantity. If you just want to shove the love worm into as many holes as possible for the least cost, while running a few risks, the way forward is clear. If you want a chance for a "connection" and more of an exchange between 2 bodies (vs just yours) , that path points elsewhere.

Let us be honest, P4P while by definition has less strings than a relationship, it does have its own set of odd pressures-you have paid, you want performance and bang for the buck, etc, from an act that is actually emotional and cannot guarantee this (a cuntundrum). You seem to put the whole thing under some pressure, when it might be more fun to take your foot off the gas pedal. You might find you enjoy it more, and find as you said another way between condoms and wanking. It should be fun. It actually can be more than fun. You will have to find your own way.

I might have been in an especially foul mood yesterday as the NE Patriots lost the semi final US Football championship game they should not have, and someone had to pay, so sorry for that. Anyway, I am sure you will mix it up in dass Pussyland and explore what works for you. Good luck in any case. Finis.

SwingerLover

01-22-13, 14:05

I'm not good at using computer and ISG's bugs (I don't know how to quote a part of a postWelcome to computer-illiterates-are-us! But at least with quoting a part of a post I can help: When you are replying to a post, you simply go into the quoted text above and delete everything you don't want to quote. If you then want seperate quotes of different parts of what's left, then you have to put in "QUOTE" and "/QUOTE" with the "[" and "]" around them into the text at the place where you want to make the incision. Then you put your reply in-between.

And thanks for asking! You're obviously not the only one with the same problem. Lately there has been an awfully big amount of posts of only one line or two with a quote of an entire large report attached to it, even if the original report is directly underneath. I consider this to be a complete waste of forum-space, and I'm not alone in that regard. Wanking and I and others have asked several times NOT to do something like that, but without much success. A few days ago I've had it with that and simply reported two posts with half a meter of quote for only a one-line-reply to Jackson. He agreed with me, deleted those quotes and left the one-line-replies on. Nothing lost since the original report was directly underneath.
Here's a recent example of what I mean. Fortunately in this case, the original report isn't all that long. Still, it would have sufficed if he only had written something like: "Vito, how do the gils at Vulkanstraße compare to those in Düsseldorf?" instead of quoting the entire report which is directly underneath anyway. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?686-Other-Areas&p=1376489&viewfull=1#post1376489

So thanks again about outing yourself as having trouble handling the computer; now everybody knows how to shorten a quote and the forum will hopefully not get spammed unnecessarily anymore. And here's some advice on another problem again: If you put an URL into the report via the edit-function after you uploaded it, the link will not work. You have to put "url" and "/url" with the "[" and "]" around them in manually while editing, and then the link will work.

EastGoing

01-22-13, 19:24

[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1376715]Welcome to computer-illiterates-are-us! But at least with quoting a part of a post I can help: When you are replying to a post, you simply go into the quoted text above and delete everything you don't want to quote.

SL, my light in the darkness, you remember I'm a fan of yours and try to help me! What a great hearted man! I'm sorry you don't live in Berlin, I'd really like to know you. If I was a journalist I would travel to interview you, unfortunately I'm just a cheap bastard. Currently I'm scheduling other trips, I wouldn't dislike to get a connection around Dusseldorf if I could find one, the problem is that I would end up in some AO dens on my own, and if I met you there would be no escape at all. But maybe I'm going too far with fantasy, after all on ISG we are basically a family of pen pals, and meeting up might spoil the image and the feeling.

Now I try to put into practice your instructions. The only part I managed to put into practice is to cut off the unwanted parts, I edited this post after seeing it in the forum, perfect result. for the rest I'll make some attempts in some dead threads, since I don't want to bother anymore, but still seems tough. Mmmh, first attempt was good, your part even came out inside blue box, after editing is an unwatchable all white. Now I make third and last, whatever comes out I'll leave it.

Cheers and thanks anyway

P.S. Rocketboy0, no problem, ok

Angus Magee

01-22-13, 19:56

Welcome to computer-illiterates-are-us! But at least with quoting a part of a post I can help: When you are replying to a post, you simply go into the quoted text above and delete everything you don't want to quote.What you missed in this post was closing the quoteAt the end. You can always go back and edit if it does not look right by hitting edit post. This way you can also fix a stupid little thing the forum auto-correct does.

And note that my quote code got tagged on to the end of you quote which is why it a appears as a quote within a quote. I kind of liked it so I left it

AM

Le Grand

01-22-13, 20:00

Angus Magee

01-22-13, 20:17

I was in Berlin in November and stayed in a hotel near Hackescher Markt. I took a walk after a very late dinner down Oranienburger strasse past the new Synangogue. The place is crawling with well dressed hookers. Anyone try them? What is the going rate?They will probably start off at €80 for the half hour. Once you get to the room the price will escalate quickly with every little thing you want to do. Take the bra off? Extra. Touch her breast? Extra. How much it will end up costing God only knows. It depends on how drunk you are and how soon you realise that you are being hustled.

There are much better options in Berlin.

Read the thread.

A

Rocketboy0

01-22-13, 20:55

Angus Magee

01-22-13, 22:17

Finite

01-23-13, 01:24

To quote others quoting others, really, R T F F.

Increasingly so much of what is being asked has really been covered before if you just take the time to look back.

It does seem that many find this too difficult, or this is just part of our generation's attention deficit disorder, where if it isn't some instant app fact, people just can't be bothered.

Maybe some of you computer experts (SL) can explain (yet again) how to do searches? For those unable to just read the forum FAQs.I'm not yet friends with the search-function, sometimes it works like a charm and other times I can't even find a post I know I read a couple of months ago. Also some repeated questions, can be good. If it was answered / covered a couple of years ago, things can have changed. Or if you want more / additional info about something.

As an example, I tried to search for info about the pdf that contains information about the girls in Artemis [Sharks and Peformers Artemis. Copy. Copy (1). Pdf] and I couldn't find any info even though I searched the Artemis- thread. What I wanted to know was if it was updated?

Finding stuff like that is what I really like with this forum, but if the info is verry old it's not particulary informative.

Rocketboy0

01-24-13, 10:53

, I tried to search for info about the pdf that contains information about the girls in Artemis [Sharks and Peformers Artemis. Copy. Copy (1). Pdf] and I couldn't find any info even though I searched the Artemis- thread. What I wanted to know was if it was updated?F-There are substantial staff changes all the time at the Love Bahnhoff-in a given week who is on vs who is gone might approach 20-30% of the total. So any list will be instantly out of date.

But more important, any list is so highly subjective to the point of worthless. We all have our various tastes, and how a given woman responds to a given man is very much a question of their individual chemistry, which can vary by the hour (as anyone who has been married can verify). While some girls do get rave reviews frequently, you may find some of the raver'd unattractive (I do) , so it's a moot point. YMMV rules.

The so-called sharks, or starfish can usually be sussed out with a little olde fashioned taking the time to talk beforehand and improving your vibe detector. But sometimes disappointment just happens. I think I am fairly good at predicting a good time for both parties, and I assure you, I have blown it badly every now and then. All part of the deal, and no list will help. But I am sure somewhere, someone is beavering away (ha) to develop the ultimate monger crowd-sourced iHo Tute App and you will soon be able to meet a candidate, and ask Siri to check her reviews in the database.

SwingerLover

01-24-13, 11:58

after all on ISG we are basically a family of pen pals, and meeting up might spoil the image and the feeling.I have met several ISG-members personally until now, it has always been very nice.

Mmmh, first attempt was good, your part even came out inside blue box, after editing is an unwatchable all white.Okay, then you killed the "/QUOTE" at the end of my part while editing, and that's why it became part of your report and turned white.

Finite

01-24-13, 22:00

F-There are substantial staff changes all the time at the Love Bahnhoff-in a given week who is on vs who is gone might approach 20-30% of the total. So any list will be instantly out of date.

But more important, any list is so highly subjective to the point of worthless. We all have our various tastes, and how a given woman responds to a given man is very much a question of their individual chemistry, which can vary by the hour (as anyone who has been married can verify). While some girls do get rave reviews frequently, you may find some of the raver'd unattractive (I do) , so it's a moot point. YMMV rules.

The so-called sharks, or starfish can usually be sussed out with a little olde fashioned taking the time to talk beforehand and improving your vibe detector. But sometimes disappointment just happens. I think I am fairly good at predicting a good time for both parties, and I assure you, I have blown it badly every now and then. All part of the deal, and no list will help. But I am sure somewhere, someone is beavering away (ha) to develop the ultimate monger crowd-sourced iHo Tute App and you will soon be able to meet a candidate, and ask Siri to check her reviews in the database.You are probably right about the "Swindler's List", but it was more about that everything isn't as easy to find even if you try to search the thread [or maybe I'm just a computer-illiterate or have a attention deficit disorder, but refuse to admit it].

About the starfish-database it can be quite fun to see what others think about some of the more frequent visiting girls, especially if I can recognize her from my own visits at the place. By the way, what monger doesn't think he's great at recognizing sharks on this fora.

PunterWanderer

01-26-13, 23:10

Wanking, Angus, please post about Caligula and King George, which are the only 2 flatrate open in Berlin at the moment, as far as I know. I read german threads very often, but it's hard to go through thousands of post.

Thank you for your attentionWell, for King George, I think that Angus wrote THE final words here: http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=310

But my old experience (end of 2011) for Caligula is the following. I paid 99 euros entering at 19. 00 (but at that time. 79 from 11. 00 to 15. 00).

But I have to specify that flat rate is inclusive only of (covered) half and half. Every single other extra is over the flat rate. E. G. 10 euros for DFK. 10 euros for BBBJ and 20 for CIM. So flat rate is ONLY for standard intercourse. Every extra depends on the girl. The majority of them are Romanian.

The place is neither more nor less a stripclub with girls dancing very lazy, and when you want to "pick up" one of these you have 4 rooms available with a shower, but if all the rooms are occupied you can f*k also on the sofas.

Looking around, in addition to girls dancing on poles, I noticed the customers composed mostly of Turkish and the atmosphere of "stripclub in the suburbs".

In fact I think it's fun to go with friends to get drunk and eventually get one or two turns on the rides. A friend of mine did not have really made, but I found a nice-looking brunette rumenian, with a nice ass wearing net stockings, a micro tong leopard print and bdsm black boots. As an old w*e!

In the end I wanted to have a BBBJ so I paid the 10 euros extra. A well done BJ without using her hands and I ended the session with a doggystyle.

As you can see, the flatrate was then only for the hangover that we've taken, looking at these asses dancing on poles!

I don't forget to tell you that the single shot was at most 20 minutes at that time. But now seeing at their website: http://www.caligula-berlin.de/caligula-bordell-berlin.html I noticed that ther is also the 30 minutes-option. Maybe the crisis?

In short, I had fun because of the atmosphere of fooling around and because basically the beauty of mongering is IMHO also the amusing mood between one shag and another, and that place did not take itself too seriously (and even girls didn't). So much better fun that in a place full of icy stunner, such as FKK Palace.

Of course, not the top in Berlin.

Sorry for my poor english

PunterWanderer

01-27-13, 12:23

I love both FKKs and Flatrate. The reason I do mostly cheap flatrate clubs is to save money, simple as. If I had more money I would spend more time in FKK clubs. I often spend a day in an FKK after a full day in a flatrate on the previous day, which works well because I am not as horny on day 2 and therefore 1 or 2 session will satisfy me in the FKK, after cumming maybe 5 times with 8 to 10 women the previous day in the Flatrate.

Thing is I wouldn't be happy only having 1 or 2 sessions in an FKK on the first day of my trip if I hadn't fucked for a month or two previously, and I don't want to pay 5 or 6 individual session along with entry which could hit me for maybe €400, SO I always go to Flatrate on day 1.

Over the last year I have been going to cheap party called Cleopatra Arena which is near Dusseldorf. I have been going there on the first day of my trip. They usually have 4 bareback girls along 4 to 6 Covered girls, and most sessions are in private rooms plus the service is pretty good. When you leave the club they give you a €25 discount card for your next visit. On my last visit in December I only paid €54 for a day of sex along with the discount card, this was the price for covered sex only, but being the sneaky ole bastard that I am, I still managed a few bareback sessions LOL. Now €54 for a whole day of sex with 8 women, and 12 sessions I can live with. I like Cheap LOL! You can read about it here.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3243-Cleopatra-Arena-Gelsenkirchen&p=1369052&viewfull=1#post1369052Let me say just few words again about the brothels all-inclusive. I hope it doesn't be boring. I think that the philosophy under that kind of brothel is that in any cases, is difficult that a customer could be over 2-3 sessions (but not for Wanking). The same madam in the brothels said that!

Of course, the "quality" both of the service and the girl is not comparable with an FKK BUT, it depends also on what we mean by quality.

Quality of the intercourse? Well, as I said, I had much more fun in that half and half to Caligula than in a pretended-30 minutes at FKK Palace with an icy stunner: no touch here, no kiss, you have to give an extra for kissing, and so on.

Quality of girls? Well, it is true that on average it si not comparable a working girl to Caligula, Pussy, etc. With a stunner of Artemis, Palace or GoldenTime, but exluding these places at the top, I saw many 4, 5-5 also in some FKK's such as World and Sharks. Of course, you can find "The Pearl" everywhere, we are talking about average.

In conclusion, the two formulas are different but both valid, depending on what a person looks for and on condition that we are talking about two completely different levels of "sexual supply".

How wanking has already said, I had fun in both places too (in any case the artemis is superior, talking about girls and location).

The caligula is truly a " informal" and unpretentious place, but still funny if taken in the right way, while the Artemis is a top class-FKK with all the comforts that one pretends to find in a place like this. But not necessarily the level of a place goes hand in hand with the quality of individual shots with the girl. That's my opinion, based on my experience and personal preferences regarding the aptitude of mongering.

PunterWanderer

01-27-13, 22:12

I love both FKKs and Flatrate. The reason I do mostly cheap flatrate clubs is to save money, simple as. If I had more money I would spend more time in FKK clubs. I often spend a day in an FKK after a full day in a flatrate on the previous day, which works well because I am not as horny on day 2 and therefore 1 or 2 session will satisfy me in the FKK, after cumming maybe 5 times with 8 to 10 women the previous day in the Flatrate.I hope not to be boring. Let me say just few words about the "philosophy" underneath the flatrate clubs. The idea is that in any case a monger isn't able to do more than 2 or 3 different shots (but not Wanking). The same madams in the brothels said it explicitly. So, IMHO it is wrong to pose the question in terms of quality vs quantity as I read before. Said that, generally speaching the quality of both the service and the girl in that kind of clubs is not comparable with an FKK. But, in what sense we talking about quality?

Quality of the girls?

Yes, of course on average it is impossible to compare the girls who work in an FKK such as Artemis with those who work at Caligula. But excluding topclass-FKK such as Palace, Artemis, Mainhattan or GoldenTime I saw many 4, 5-5 also in places like FKK World or Sharks.

Quality of service?

I don't think that there is a necessary link between the girl's beauty and my personal satisfaction of sexual intercourse. I mean, to keep the example of Caligula, I enjoyed most in that half and half I wrote before than in the last pretended half an hour of sexual intercourse with an icy stunner of FKK Palace. So, not necessarily the level of a place and of a girl goes hand in hand with the quality of the singles shots with the girls.

In conclusion, the two formulas are different but both valid, depending on what a monger looks and as long as we are aware that we are talking about two completely different levels of "sexual supply".

The caligula is truly a unformal and unpretentious place, but still funny if taken in the right direction, while the Artemis is a top class-FKK with all the amenities and comfort that one expects to find in a place like this.

Like wanking, I had fun in both places: it depends on your mood and what you look for in that moment.

What I want to point out is that often the quality of a sexual service doesn't depend on its cost or on "the name" of the place in which it is supplied, but of course this only my opinion, based on my experiences and personal tastes in the aptitude of mongering.

Putantour

01-28-13, 09:28

PunterWanderer

01-28-13, 11:37

Hi Putantour, hi I just wrote on the Saturday thread Thai massage Berlin: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3386-Thai-Massage-Berlin&p=1378549#post1378549

The nuru massage is my favorite among all types of massage, and to Verona's massage I found a very good quality as location, as girls and massage.

Not cheap but with about 140 euro you have an hour of massage. There is also the possibility of making the nuru massage with 2 girls.

The girls are OK, but unfortunately I haven't seen oriental girls (but it is my determination to make me do the nuru an eel like Asa Akira).

Angus Magee

01-28-13, 11:59

Hi guys, anyone has ever had a Nuru massage in Berlin? How it has been (what happens exactly. I have read something not specific)?

I've read here "Paris N. 5" they offers Nuru massage, and I think I'll try soon, anyone tried before me?

Thank you, I'll let you know my experience asap.Never tried this but often thought of it. It will be good to get a report. The concept sounds good but I do wonder if the extra expense is justified. A really good tantra massage is also more expensive but with tantra (proper tantra at a good studio) you know the girl has some training. As I have said before-the trouble with many massage ladies is that they carry and attitude about not being sex workers. It is like they do this rather than come to terms with some shame of wanking guys for money. This is why I personally steer clear of massage but if I could find a good one I would love it.

AM

Angus Magee

01-28-13, 13:52

What I want to point out is that often the quality of a sexual service doesn't depend on its cost or on "the name" of the place in which it is supplied, but of course this only my opinion, based on my experiences and personal tastes in the aptitude of mongering.I agree with this. However what I eventually found is that I spent the same amount of cash over the long run doing a variety of sub standard hookers to find the one who gave me a solid session. At a bigger name bordello or FKK I can side step some of the selection process (which is done for me in the hiring process of the bordello) and end up with sessions that I generally like. Granted I miss out of the sub standard sessions which some guys might also enjoy but in the end I really do think a guys spends more or less the same amount of cash cruising around the flat rates as he does in a single good night at Artemis or some place similar.

But yeah if numbers are important to you the flat rates make a whole lot of sense and some gems can be found.

AM

Willg666

01-31-13, 07:36

Hello all! Love the information that is available here on ISG. I'm coming to Berlin for work for a February and I'm interested in checking out a few places. I've done some searching through the threads and I have some information already but I'm looking for some last minute advise as I'll be in town this coming weekend. As advised by many on ISG, I intend to check out FKK Artemis during this trip. I also intend to check out the GBatErlebniswohnung at least once. I'm hoping to enjoy myself there and reply with a wonderful report. I have a few questions as I may try a third location on my visit.

1. I'm on the fence about Tiffany or Bar Mondschein. Any recommendations / preferences? I couldn't tell if Mondschein was still open as their website was down.

2. Anything near the Mitte area that's relatively inexpensive. I'm not certain my discipline will hold at Artemis so my budget may get eaten up there. .

3. Any problems at these places with black men, I've read the thread on ERW and saw the answer there, but the question is more for the other three places.

For the record my budget is between 3-700 Euro depending on how good / bad the experience is at the first two places.

Finite

01-31-13, 18:19

MongoManga

01-31-13, 20:21

Willg666

01-31-13, 22:33

Don't understand what you mean with problems with black men. I don't care if an other monger is black at an fkk, and I don't think so many others do either. As for the girls, I don't think they care. Why should they?Just was curious of any racism that may occur. For entrance or service. Thanks for the info.

Angus Magee

02-01-13, 06:37

Hi all,

I'm visiting Berlin end of March. Has anybody had luck using mamba search for girls in Berlin and had any luck. I'm sending a lot of messages and almost getting no replies. More than 80 msgs I think.

Any advice?Mamba is not big here. I assume you are looking for semi-pro type sponsorship? Does not really go on here in Berlin. The economics are just different and the girls have many other options before turning to hooking.

AM

PunterWanderer

02-01-13, 15:26

Hi Willg666,

It depends on what do yo mean for "relatively inexpensive" in the Mitte area. Unfortunately for you, in the Mitte there is the Odette Berlin, a luxurious and elegant brothels also with escort service, where you can easily spend for an half an hour almost the same price of the entry and one shot with a girl in the Artemis (but at the Odette without buffet, sauna, wellness.). Never heard about a brothel or other "inexpensive" in Mitte, but maybe others members could help you.

It is relatively inexpensive compared to Odette probably every another brothel located in the others districts of Berlin near Mitte. Try to see on these websites, if you find something right for you:

http://www.berlinintim.de/

http://www.bordelle-berlin.de/

Don't worry about problems with black men. Berlin is not Tokyo, never heard about problems with any kind of "gaijin".

P. S. : sorry for my OT (before posting here I read all the FAQ's and threads about posting problems) , but just talking about 'computer-illiterates-are-us', I can't understand how to put the link of a SINGLE report.

E. G. : in my last post in this same thread I linked the report of Verona's Massagen, for having a nuru massage. But the link is to the entire thread about thai massage in Berlin, and only incidentally it appears my report, only because is the last one of the thread. I really RTFF but can't understand how! Maybe, someone less "computer-illiterates-than-me" can help me? THANKS!

Ableyone

02-01-13, 23:14

P. S. : sorry for my OT (before posting here I read all the FAQ's and threads about posting problems) , but just talking about 'computer-illiterates-are-us', I can't understand how to put the link of a SINGLE report.

E. G. : in my last post in this same thread I linked the report of Verona's Massagen, for having a nuru massage. But the link is to the entire thread about thai massage in Berlin, and only incidentally it appears my report, only because is the last one of the thread. I really RTFF but can't understand how! Maybe, someone less "computer-illiterates-than-me" can help me? THANKS!You linked it correctly thats the way it works, as other posts are added, your link will still point to your post in the thread.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?370-Add-Test-Messages-Here&p=800305&viewfull=1#post800305

Angus Magee

02-02-13, 09:16

It depends on what do yo mean for "relatively inexpensive" in the Mitte area. Unfortunately for you, in the Mitte there is the Odette Berlin, a luxurious and elegant brothels also with escort service, where you can easily spend for an half an hour almost the same price of the entry and one shot with a girl in the Artemis (but at the Odette without buffet, sauna, wellness.). Never heard about a brothel or other "inexpensive" in Mitte, but maybe others members could help you.

It is relatively inexpensive compared to Odette probably every another brothel located in the others districts of Berlin near Mitte. Try to see on these websites, if you find something right for you:Strictly speaking Oddette's is in Tiergarten / Moabit, west of Mitte. I think Kimino tried the place out a while back and concluded that while not a bad place it is really not worth the extra expense unless you are really set on a particular girl there.

As for Mitte, there are not a lot (or any that I can think of) brothels in Mitte. Hard to say exactly because I am not always that clear where one district ends and another begins. There are several in Prinzlauerberg which is right next door to Mitte. There are also a couple of Thai massage places and other erotic massage places in Mitte.

Maybe have a look on this map which shows all the bordellos, massage and nightclubs in Berlin. You can turn off / on the various types of place to make the map easier to read and generally there is a link to the home page (or at least a path) so it is quite handy.

http://yapis.eu/?id=9&feature=nightclub,massage,brothel&lat=52.5&lon=13.4&zoom=12

Also to make a link to a specific post just open a new tab using the number of the post at the top right hand corner of each post. Then copy the link address in that tab and paste it into you report. It can not really be any easier.

AM

PS-Had a look myself and the only Brothel I can see which is in Mitte (though it could be in Kreuzberg as I am not sure of the boarder) is Sternchen. Give this place a miss. It is possible the most depressing place I have ever visited. With this place one can not be at all sure if the girls are there by choice or nor. Really down market though the web page makes it look really nice. Avoid, avoid, avoid. Need I say more?

PunterWanderer

02-02-13, 12:11

Ok, is all clear now how to make a link. Actually, is not difficult.

Sorry, but I'm still not so practical of the forum.

Ableyone and Angus Magee, thanks!

Boy1978

02-02-13, 17:04

Kimino

02-02-13, 19:35

Strictly speaking Oddette's is in Tiergarten / Moabit, west of Mitte. I think Kimino tried the place out a while back and concluded that while not a bad place it is really not worth the extra expense unless you are really set on a particular girlI confirm completely.

I went there with Charlie123 to see how it was but mainly to see a german girl that I liked a lot from Artemis, Helena. The girl wasn't there, the rest of the lineup sucked both literally and per quality, the place looked way beneath the level one would expect from the price level. Bottom line, I never went back.

As a side note, went back to Liberty on Wednesday, midday. My favorite, Chris, was busy unfortunately, but the rest of the lineup was great, once more.

Picked the wrong girl (my fault) , Lucia, nice an very young but too much of a next door girl for my mood. Thought she was spanish (from bad translation of the site) but was really south american. A decent session but I was there for Chris. 40min, BBBJ, anal. 140eu. (80+20+40) approx Artemis cost for this bundle.

Kimino

Rocketboy0

02-03-13, 01:22

one of the great things about mitte is that you can hop on a fast s-bahn, or the u2 or u3, and in 15-20 minutes you can be where all the action is (west berlin) , as in all the better bordellos and artemis. sure there are bits of bordellos rep001tered hither and yon, some street action, the tutey bars but really mitte is for tourists, and the wild west is for mongers. so enjoy mitte, then enjoy berlin's great transit system (or pretty cheap taxis) and then really enjoy berlin.

Neutron Flux

02-03-13, 01:45

as a side note, went back to liberty on wednesday, midday. my favorite, chris, was busy unfortunately, but the rest of the lineup was great, once more.

picked the wrong girl (my fault) , lucia, nice an very young but too much of a next door girl for my mood. thought she was spanish (from bad translation of the site) but was really south american. a decent session but i was there for chris. 40min, bbbj, anal. 140eu. (80+20+40) approx artemis cost for this bundle.lucia, who is advertised as the tornado from barcelona? actually, she was one of the best sessions of my life. but that was like 3-4 yrs ago. i actually thought she was more like a ghost on the website, since i never saw her again at liberty, or anywhere else. she was very young and inexperienced back then, spoke just a few words of german, and my spanish is not much better. but she sure knew what to do in the bedroom, haha. raped me extremely passionately with long dfks. 69, mpos etc to multiple explosions, probably had some help from the coca cola company when we sessioned though, if you know what i mean. she had brighter more reddish hair than what is on the website now, but it's her. not sure about the girl next door, she was as hot as you could wish for, but yes, more the natural type. i thought she was from spain, and she looks like she is, but that is only from the website too, could also be south america, yes, as mentioned our conversation was limited. i remember that when i asked her about kissing when we just arrived at the room, she would just put her tongue in, haha. good old times.

odette in moabit, i too can confirm what was mentioned. average in every way, except for the price tag. little selection. do not recommend. but must be something too it, they have been around very long. can recommend the golden tulip hotel on the same street though.

Boy1978

02-03-13, 12:19

I confirm completely.

I went there with Charlie123 to see how it was but mainly to see a german girl that I liked a lot from Artemis, Helena. The girl wasn't there, the rest of the lineup sucked both literally and per quality, the place looked way beneath the level one would expect from the price level. Bottom line, I never went back.

As a side note, went back to Liberty on Wednesday, midday. My favorite, Chris, was busy unfortunately, but the rest of the lineup was great, once more.

Picked the wrong girl (my fault) , Lucia, nice an very young but too much of a next door girl for my mood. Thought she was spanish (from bad translation of the site) but was really south american. A decent session but I was there for Chris. 40min, BBBJ, anal. 140eu. (80+20+40) approx Artemis cost for this bundle.

KiminoOdette have high price. 120euro for 30min! Why can they take so much. When other GOOD places takes 60-80 for 30min.

Boy1978

02-03-13, 12:37

Hello!

I will visit Liberty soon.

Any good tip for girls? I like carmen's pics. I also like blowjob without, thats a must for me.

Website don't say anything about price for extra's.

Angus Magee

02-03-13, 17:22

Website don't say anything about price for extra's.It sure does. A full menu. Scroll to the bottom.

http://www.libertyberlin.de/preise.html

Kimino has a couple of recent posts with recommendations and there are others if you read the thread or do a search. Not sure now many recent ones though.

AM

Neutron Flux

02-03-13, 17:40

Hello!

I will visit Liberty soon.

Any good tip for girls? I like carmen's pics. I also like blowjob without, thats a must for me.

Website don't say anything about price for extra's.Carmen is one of the stars at Liberty, she's been around for a while. Her big natural boobs are feeling a bit the effect of gravity, except for that she's great, GFE and fun girl. She does good BBBJ, DFK. Almost all girls at Liberty do BBBJ (20 extra).

Rocketboy0

02-03-13, 20:29

Odette have high price. 120euro for 30min! Why can they take so much. When other GOOD places takes 60-80 for 30min.They have been meaning to change their name to O Debt. They take so much because mongers pay it.

In the misty distant past, they had some interesting women but them days are long gone. If you feel the need to spend a little more, Mon Rouge and van Kampen have better choices, especially vK. These are just vague shifts in the market, with a range of prices among the bordellos and you have to decide if the more "exclusive" choices are worth it. It is what it is.

Kimino

02-03-13, 21:21

Lucia, who is advertised as the tornado from Barcelona?Ciao Neutron Flux.

Yes it's her, she is from south america but didn't want to tell me exactly from where. Saying it with BoneyM, Don't let me be misunderstood. :) Nice girl, very good service but not very intriguing for me. Lately I look with suspect girls without half their body covered with tatoos, no dirty look in the face, at least a couple of piercings, possibly suicide girl look etc. LOL

I was mentalized on Chris which matches in some way the above so finding myself in front of a cute but "water and soap" kind, as we say in Italy, was a bit disappointing.

Absolutely a taste matter.

Kimino

FabeFabe

02-04-13, 22:26

I heard about a magazine paper with ad of escort in Berlin.

Someone know the name of this?

Thanks

Rocketboy0

02-05-13, 08:35

I heard about a magazine paper with ad of escort in Berlin.Someone know the name of this? ThanksBild (daily) , Tipp, Zitty (every 2 weeks).
Or the Angus Magee Family Christmas Newsletter. A little known fact; the latter is the original source of Santa's "Ho Ho Ho".

Angus Magee

02-05-13, 11:38

I heard about a magazine paper with ad of escort in Berlin.As RB mentions below there are a few print sources for hookers in Berlin. But honestly you will find much the same on line at the various Berlin web portals. I think that there are a few small operations) Polish girls mostly) that operate through the papers but these are extremely risky to call as you never know who will show up at the door. This is even more so than the usual crap shoot of escort agencies with these print ad operations.

You may also find a guide to Berlin night life at some of the newspaper stands but again, waste of time and money.

AM

Zapzapzap

02-05-13, 19:44

I was looking at KD website, and three names are in my list: Clarissa, Mia and Melina.

I've found a few reports about Clarissa and Melina but not from Mia. Have anyone experienced her?

Putantour

02-06-13, 14:23

Was in Berlin few days ago, and was really curious about this kind of massage.

I choose randomly this place PARIS N. 5, Parisierstr. N. 3. It's necessary to have print in mind the exact and. 3 of the location, because like me, you will not have to wander all around the street.

There are a lot of shops in the street, and a lot of gate to the buildings. Outside there is non evidence of the place, just "Paris N. 5" on the ringing bell, between other 10-12 names. Careful: just door by door, in the street,

There is something similar to a fitness club for female; I've been near to enter there, and should be very ilarious, because it isn't the right place.

Well go to N. 3, ring at the door, enter and follow the way to the internal yard. Inside head left (on your right there is a big window on a infantry school) , and go to the door.

The place is an apartament, well furnished and with a cool atmosphere. The girl at the door told me that I must come back in 1 hour, because no girls available. When I come back again, she told me she has reserved Christina.

I trusted her, and Christina was really nice, young (20 maybe) and really friendly.

This kind of massage is made both naked, with a huge amount of a strange warm gel. She was really good at massage, the situation is a must try, but I think that 150 € are too much.

Really when she made me turn, my friend was a block of stone, and I was vibrating of pleasure. She jumped on my stomache reverse, and hold on moving. Unluckly I was about to explode, and all what they do (here at least) is a HJ.

The location and the girl were so good that probably next time I'll go and try someother less expensive.

HF

Putantour

02-06-13, 14:41

Was so many times that I would try this place.

Was an evening that I didn't want to go to Artemis, mainly because I was alone and I didn't want to go to sleep too late.

So I though that was time to try this place.

Bring there by taxi, the entrance is on the side of a Supermarket. Go inside and head trough the stairs following the arrows. Easy.

Once in, was almost 21 h. And there where 4 girls: 2 average. 1 cute, and 1 genuine.

The feeling shots me immediately, and usually I hit it. I've choosen so Anna (you could se on the website) , really genuine young german girl.

Friendly, natural, relaxed, a body to play with, nice face and smile.

She told me that was her 1st day there, but she was almost experienced. She told me that almost everythign was extra (. For example kiss or BBBJ) , but I could live also without extras.

We chat a little in english, joking a little and then we've got to work. Everything happens as we were old friend, she put me at ease, really.

Didn't rushed me (well. I've booked 1 hour) , and was always smiling and talking and keeping my rithm.

Finally: location nice, I've been in a room maybe a little small, but nice lights and soft music.

Girls: I've made the perfect hit for me, maybe lucky. Sure, for whom needs fk, or BBBJ, should became an expensive experience. At 21 there were 4 girls.

Probably I'll repeat.

HF

Angus Magee

02-06-13, 16:01

The location and the girl were so good that probably next time I'll go and try someother less expensive.As far as I can see 150 for the hour (don't know if they do 1/2 hrs. Of this massage) is the going rate for Nuru massage. Something about the gel being expensive and they use a lot. But I am not sure I buy that.

AM

PunterWanderer

02-06-13, 21:13

Was in Berlin few days ago, and was really curious about this kind of massage.

The location and the girl were so good that probably next time I'll go and try someother less expensive.

HFAs AM has already said, unfortunately for you in that same "league" of massage parlour the prices are more or less the same, ranging between the 140-150 for 1 hour (I hope you're talking about one hour massage). In some places you can also choice for "two girls", but doubling the price, or also do just 1/2 h, but in that case it would cost more, compared with that from one hour (E. G. Verona's Massagen, but also Euphorie).

If you want to spend less, my humble suggestion is to go to some of the many thai massages in Berlin, where you can easily have a 1/2 h massage for 20-30 (of course basic prize excluding the extras-gifts) , and with a wide choice of HE (in sometimes also the "all inclusive" one, but sometimes also nothing).

Also in this case, generally speaching, the quality of girls is on average not the same of the top class MP, but it is still valid the "rule" that some gems you can find it everywhere.

Just for my curiosity, at the Paris N. 5 there was the possibility to practice nuru also the on that kind of "sukebe chair" according to the "true Japanese rule", or also there was practiced on beds / mattresses?

Rocketboy0

02-07-13, 10:01

Was so many times that I would try this place.Girls: I've made the perfect hit for me, maybe lucky. Sure, for whom needs fk, or BBBJ, should became an expensive experience. At 21 there were 4 girls.Probably I'll repeat.P glad you tried-van Kampen really does have some fine girls.

The only thing you might think about is paying for some extras but just dial back the time a little to 45 min, which makes it more affordable. Van Kampen is about 20 Eur more per session when you compare apples to apples, then the other mid level bordellos, but they do have some really great choices.

Unless you are super tight with time, I would never book ahead as I think the chemistry click is critical and can only be sensed in person. But it is a good idea to call first just to see if some possible choices are actually there and available when you plan to arrive.

Like many of the private bordellos, they seem to have more staff on during the day. This varies a little from place to place but in general, mid-late afternoon seems to be when most at full strength (Mon Rouge would be an example of the exception). Stronger it seems during the mid-late day and during the workweek, bordellos are almost the opposite sched wise from FKKs regarding the best time to visit. Which if you are flush with cash and sperm to spare is actually a good thing.

Putantour

02-07-13, 14:12

As AM has already said, unfortunately for you in that same "league" of massage parlour the prices are more or less the same, ranging between the 140-150 for 1 hour (I hope you're talking about one hour massage). In some places you can also choice for "two girls", but doubling the price, or also do just 1/2 h, but in that case it would cost more, compared with that from one hour (E. G. Verona's Massagen, but also Euphorie).

If you want to spend less, my humble suggestion is to go to some of the many thai massages in Berlin, where you can easily have a 1/2 h massage for 20-30 (of course basic prize excluding the extras-gifts) , and with a wide choice of HE (in sometimes also the "all inclusive" one, but sometimes also nothing).

Also in this case, generally speaching, the quality of girls is on average not the same of the top class MP, but it is still valid the "rule" that some gems you can find it everywhere.

Just for my curiosity, at the Paris N. 5 there was the possibility to practice nuru also the on that kind of "sukebe chair" according to the "true Japanese rule", or also there was practiced on beds / mattresses?No one purpose to me that chair, the maitresse or the girl. Seemed like there was only the bed way, a sort of japanese bed, flat and low.

I don't like the Thai girl type, I knew that there are also chepaer massage parlour, but I would like to try a better line up.

When I say "next time I want to try something less expensive" I mean: yes the nuru (1h standard) is ok, I'm happy to tried it, but next time if I need just relax and HJ, I'll go for 30 min. Standard massage, probably here, because the place and the girl I met are a very high level. But 1h x 150 Eur I think are better invested in a place like VK, KD or similar.

Nice city Berlin, loved it everytime I go.

Willg666

02-08-13, 02:50

Howie

02-10-13, 14:19

I was looking at KD website, and three names are in my list: Clarissa, Mia and Melina.

I've found a few reports about Clarissa and Melina but not from Mia. Have anyone experienced her?Hi Zzz,

I had a couple of amazing experiences with Mia a few years back.

I shared a threesome with her and her girlfriend Nicole and I would have to say that these were some of the most memorable threesomes that I ever had. Nicole is the 'intimate' friend on her profile in the website.

She was passionate and open minded. Combined GFE and PSE all the way. Watching her and Nicole get it on as they both tended to me was awesome. They were really into each other as best friends would.

Mind you, this was some time ago.

Do report back if you do get the chance to see her. I would be interested to know if she is still as hot and vibrant as before.

Howie

James 006

02-10-13, 22:25

Dear all,

I made some new experiences.

On a few occasions I have visited the brothel located above Mc Donalds on Herman Square. There are really some cute women among the lineup.

35 Euro for 20 minutes fuck and + 10 for uncover BJ.

There is also a brothel a few hundred yards up the Karl Marx strasse. You will see the light "Open" in the window in the 2nd floor. Again, I think it was some really nice girls here. Mostly from Romania / Bulgaria.

Unfortunately I do not remember any names. But will come back to both places soon. I paid 35 Euro for 20 minutes fuck also here.

There is a brothel in Karl Marx str. Up by Neuekoln station. Here I met a lovely dark lady from romania which was on par with Artemis quality.

I wish a full list of brothels in this area and maybe someone can help with a thorough overview?

A Turkish taxidriver showed me a cafe in this area where the seated ladies and waiting on customers. There were some pretty cute girls here and it was not a typical

Tourist place. I was the only one. It was women that you could take home for a low price. I have the address somewhere and can send it if anyone is interested.

I also visited the strip club Rush Hour (Mitte) a few days ago and I have been here many times over the past few years. Each time it gets worse. Now there's no womenhere as I am interested to take part in a private room.

I also visited the strip club Cleopatra. Here are some interesting women working and I could not shure what service you can get here. The ladies were very drunk when I arrived early in the morning, but I had a good time. Is there someone with more experience of this place?

I would also like to have some information about the Kit Kat Club. Is there any prostitute who works here? I realize that one can not have any guarantee of sex here, but a little more information would be nice.

Thanks for a great forum!

Angus Magee

02-10-13, 23:09

I wish a full list of brothels in this area and maybe someone can help with a thorough overview?Taken from my Club Guide form a few years back.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=975156&viewfull=1#post975156

Mac.

Friedelstr. 60.

Berlin, Neuköln.

30-6298-9838.

http://www.erotische-modelle.de/

Given very poor rating by Zippy, I have found Mac to be an OK place. That is if you find a girl there that you like. Trouble is that they also seem to have a high turnover with only the older ladies being real regular.

If you do find a girl, the price can't be beat-60€ for 1/2 hr. Incl. BBBJCIM!

The rooms are a bit grotty and watch the pillows as I myself have from time to time spotted them with my seed in the midst of spilling it all over a girl's face.

Club Elfen.

Hermannplatz 2.

Berlin, Neuköln.

30-6630-7859.

http://www.club-elfen.de/

Now we are getting into the sleazy side. This place is a bit of a dump. Located right above the McDonalds on Hermanplatz, you feel about the same as after eating at said establishment-sort of dirty and ashamed.

It is cheap but the girls are also clock watchers and you get what you pay for. Here re some real skanky 'hos and I have been offered bareback here.

Be careful but worth it if you are into the seedier side of the hobby and there are a couple of lookers here.

La Dolce Vita I &II.

LD I.

Donaustr. 130.

Berlin, Neuköln.

30-6069-0032.

http://www.pinup-modelle.de/

LD II.

Pannierstr. 27.

Berlin, Neuköln.

30-6270-6659.

http://www.pinupmodelle.de/

Located within about a 10 minute walk of each other these places are pretty similar. The main reason to go here is price and the girls are hit and miss. Like Mac, if you can find a girl that you like it is worth it. It seems a lot of Polish girls work here and that they come and go from Poland so the girls on the website are not always there.

Pension Diamant.

Hobrechtstr. 25.

Berlin, Neuköln.

30-6242-2190.

http://www.schmusemodelle.de/

Only been here once a few years back. The line up from the website does nothing for me but again-cheap. And for what it is worth, open 24 hours for those late night runs.

Dor.

Isarstr. 2.

Berlin, Neuköln.

30-624-5876.

http://www.liebesmodelle.de/

Never been here. From the website I get the impression that the girls are all older. Every once in a while when I check there is a new, younger girl but they never seem to stay. I am not sure of the prices but am sure they are on the low side.

Lola Candy.

Sonnenallee 201.

Berlin, Neuköln.

0179-995-8048.

http://www.lola-candy.de/girls/

I was here one time and never again. A very dirty and unpleasant atmosphere and a sub par session that was not especially cheap. Open late though.

Might have missed a couple and some of the links may be out of date.

Read my blog for some more over view.

http://www.angusmagee.com/

AM

Bearsk

02-11-13, 06:47

A Turkish taxidriver showed me a cafe in this area where the seated ladies and waiting on customers. There were some pretty cute girls here and it was not a typical

Tourist place. I was the only one. It was women that you could take home for a low price. I have the address somewhere and can send it if anyone is interested.Please provide details of address etc thanks BSK

Angus Magee

02-11-13, 08:00

Please provide details of address etc thanks BSKI wonder if it is this place he is speaking of here.

http://apropos24.info/index.html

It is a small cafe / bar connected to La Dolce Vita on Pannierstr.

AM

Canyon

02-11-13, 08:23

Dick1,

I would be interested in the name and address of the place where there were girls waiting to be taken away for a low price.

Canyon

Angus Magee

02-11-13, 13:45

Dick1,

I would be interested in the name and address of the place where there were girls waiting to be taken away for a low price.

CanyonWould also be interested to find out if just to know it is there. While I am not saying that Dick1 is mistaken, I have never heard of such a place even on the local German forum where surely it would be discussed. That is why I wonder if it is Apropos he is speaking about as it does sort of fit the description. Other than that I was thinking it could be a place where the girls from an agency hang out waiting for calls? This could certainly be it as there are a couple of agencies that operate out of the area around Hermanplatz.

AM

Rocketboy0

02-11-13, 23:39

Would also be interested to find out if just to know it is there. AMIt might be the the Dr. Wanking Scratch and Sniff Sushi Bar, near where Kurfürstenstrasse meets Potsdammer Str. As you may recall, all the takeout you can eat for 20 Eur. Antibiotics desert is extra of course. An old menu is here: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/influx-of-prostitutes-berlin-district-concerned-about-sex-trade-a-514696.html

James 006

02-12-13, 00:15

Hey,

I can not find the note with the address, but I can explain the way. If you go out of MC Donalds on Hermannsplatz go left and across the Karl Marx str. Continue straight upa gentle slope. When you stroll around 5 minutes then turn left. Here in a corner is a small Turkish cafe that has taxidrivers and unemployed foreigners playing at any slot. Here are all the ladies ready for a deal. Sorry I do not have the address so I thought I had.

There are women of all shapes and when I was there, there were two super hot girls I would like to know better. I did not have time this evening, but try to see the selection on another night.

Thanks Angus for information about brothels in the area. I will reload the list. Slowly but surely.

Finite

02-12-13, 02:30

It might be the the Dr. Wanking Scratch and Sniff Sushi Bar, near where Kurfürstenstrasse meets Potsdammer Str. As you may recall, all the takeout you can eat for 20 Eur. Antibiotics desert is extra of course. An old menu is here:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/influx-of-prostitutes-berlin-district-concerned-about-sex-trade-a-514696.htmlThat guy (Wanking) never disappoints, his thread (s) about the SW:s at Kurfürstenstrasse was great fun to read. Same area as in the article in your url, however it dosen't seem to be the same area that was mentioned earlier with the taxidrivers / hookers.

I kind of like bars [in this case a sleazy cafe] to hook up with women, but not if they are dressed like streetwalkers. I can imagen the walk of shame, when passing the reception / lobby in the hotel.

I'm going this weekend to Berlin but I have no attempt to search for the taxi-cafe. Due to my economy, it will be Artemis and one or to better bordellos. I will review the Apropos place another time.

Angus Magee

02-12-13, 06:10

Hey,

I can not find the note with the address, but I can explain the way. If you go out of MC Donalds on Hermannsplatz go left and across the Karl Marx str. Continue straight upa gentle slope. When you stroll around 5 minutes then turn left. Here in a corner is a small Turkish cafe that has taxidrivers and unemployed foreigners playing at any slot. Here are all the ladies ready for a deal. Sorry I do not have the address so I thought I had.Why not get on google maps and trace your steps. You can usually digure and address this way. Or at least find the visual on street view.

http://goo.gl/maps/8Fv0X

AM

Kasper81

02-12-13, 12:01

Angus Magee

02-12-13, 17:58

Hi all.

I have been travelling many times in Berlin, and tried several girls in several places (Liberty, Freudenhaus, Caligula, Royal, etc).

I was never able to find the real MILF experience. I am looking for stunners (not sleazy grannies). Model-type (fake breasts, etc) but in their 40s or so.

Do you have any suggestions? So far I found either beautiful young girls, or ugly old women.

Of course I will add my report, if I eventually find any.This is a MILF-y bordello IME. Kind of out of the way though in the south of Berlin.

http://www.herzberlin.de/bordell-berlin/girls.html

And you can always give Artemis a try. Maybe not exactly traditional MILFs there but there are certainly some ladies that are neither young nor old and ugly. One that springs to mind is Russian Ella.

AM

Rocketboy0

02-13-13, 09:46

This is a MILF-why bordello IME. http://www.herzberlin.de/bordell-berlin/girls.html And you can always give Artemis a try. One that springs to mind is Russian Ella. AMThese are good suggestions but to be fair, the Magee tastebuds tend to favour the young and the slim. Udder options:

Salon Prestige (Gina, Vanessa, Svetlana) ;
Liberty (Marlene) ;
van Kampen (Holly, Kitty, Stella) ;
Kamilla Dee (Natalie, Fionna rarely there but when, ooooo);
Mon Rouge (Sybel);
Artemis (Pamela, Bella, Holly, Natasha though not well endowed, she can vamp with the best, Manuela) ;
and, a few at Ritter / Tiffany (Kim, Steffi).

See all the relevant websites, and while you need not book, call ahead to see if anyone is actually there when it suits you. English should not be a problem. All these can seriously ring your bell though as always, your mileage...The age span here is vaguely mid-late 30s, some a little younger, but all most def MILFy. Settled down, hot women who are relaxed, can carry on a conversation, can let their own bodies enjoy things, and they know how it all works. There are places where the age is older, eg http://www.eub-service.com/index.html (I have never been) but as you said, the tradeoffs are rather obvious.

Report back, monsieur, as we have given you intel worth several thousand euros and hundreds of hours of hard, hard work, all for nothing.

Rocketboy0

02-13-13, 19:41

Udder options:Cripey, reviewing the list, how I forgot these I dunno:

Van Kampen: Marina (seriously serious Milfski) but away a few weeks. A big girl (not fat, just tall, slim and large-boned as Cartman might say) but maybe the most beautiful face of them all. Pictures are good but do not do justice. Look below -sample taken from her page on the vK site.

Artemis: Jenna (possibly a little too young looking for you, and there is that Himalayan range thing, though she is great); Ruby (Hungarian- I have never clicked with her, way too PSE gig though she has perhaps the look you seek). Obviously all a matter of taste and chemistry.

If you look through Berlin Intime's many indies, there are some as well but as mentioned ad nausem here, very hit and miss and require lots of pointless sexpeditions. Anyway, you are not suffering from a lack of options.

Excess

02-13-13, 21:21

There is no truth, none at all among the girls in Berlin, that MILF actually stands for "Magee, that I would Like to Forget".

Nope.

E.

Angus Magee

02-13-13, 21:32

There is no truth, none at all among the girls in Berlin, that MILF actually stands for "Magee, that I would Like to Forget".Well in fact it is true that once a girl experiences the Magee Magic Wand nothing else quite satisfies again and therefore there is some regret and a wish to forget such ecstasy was once possible.

I will admit this,

AM

James 006

02-14-13, 01:08

Corner Biebricher str / Mainzer str.

Rocketboy0

02-14-13, 08:39

it is true that once a girl experiences the Magee Magic Wand ... there is some regret and a wish to forget such ecstasy was once possible., AMCould that be due to the fact that pre-Wand, they were nice wholesome teenies, and post Wand, hardened mothers?

Geist123

02-15-13, 09:55

Hi,

How are prices nowdays in Monrouge?

Rocketboy0

02-16-13, 00:11

Hi, How are prices nowdays in Monrouge?When last I was there. 40 min with DFK and BBJ was EUR 140 (about 20 more than say KD, Liberty, Prestige, Royal) but on par with van Kampen and slightly less than ODebt. If you jst go to their website, their email and phone number are listed. They speak english, so just ask with what ever you want on the menu http://www.monrouge.com/kontakt.html

MrCampo

02-16-13, 17:51

Which options are there?

Angus Magee

02-16-13, 18:15

Which options are there?Http://www.klix37.de/

http://www.aston-berlin.de/?part=home

Both offer 20 min. Sessions for €30 but don't expect much in the way of service, suck and fuck and you had better finish in the time frame.

Caligula offers a special of €20 for 20 mins. but I am not sure how easy it is to negotiate and only within certain hours.

http://www.caligula-berlin.de/bordell-guenstig-berlin.html

If you can cut loose another fiver your options increase.

AM

Kasper81

02-16-13, 19:06

Angus wrote: "Caligula offers a special of €20 for 20 mins. But I am not sure how easy it is to negotiate and only within certain hours."

I tried the Caligula, both 50€ for one hour flat (managed to bang two girls, clearly poor service, yet ok for the price) and 20€ for 20 minutes. At the desk they tried to upsell for more expensive options, but once I told them I read the offer on the website and I only had 20€ (take it or leave it) , they let me in. The old woman told me in a horrible english that I had one minute to watch them "dance" and pick one.

I picked a cute girl (2 years ago, don't ask for names) , she asked for a tip which I refused with the excuse of no money left). Mechanical BJ and decent fuck in 2 positions. Came doggystyle after probably 10 minutes of effective action.

Cheap fuck, poor service. But you cannot get anything more than this for 20€ I guess.

I might repeat. If 100% horny and with little money in my wallet.

Alfonso

02-17-13, 18:38

Rocketboy0

02-17-13, 20:14

Looking for BBHJ from a large breasted mature (40 plus) lady.Try the Berlin Intime search engine. Assume your German up to it (hint Handentspanung) or just translate as needed http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/suchexxx.php Maybe Angus has some massage buddies who could fit the rub and tug bill? Not our usual request to be sure.

EuroSex

02-17-13, 21:22

Angus Magee

02-17-13, 21:56

Hello,

I'll be passing to Berlin, I wanted to know if there is a nice club near the train stationd Hbf. I see on the map this:

http://www.caligula-berlin.de/

But I don't undestand if it's a poor choice.

Have you some info?

Thanks to allFrom the Hauptbahnhof you could probably get to Artemis faster than you could Caligula. It is 6 stations away on the S Bahn which would be about a 15 min. ride then a 5 min. walk.

You did a say a nice club. Not sure that Caligula qualifies.

http://mapa-metro.com/mapas/Berlin/mapa-berlin-web.jpg

AM

Rocketboy0

02-17-13, 23:30

From the Hauptbahnhof you could probably get to Artemis faster than you could Caligula. You did a say a nice club. Not sure that Caligula qualifies. AMThough it is cheap (like McDonalds is cheap, especially if you eat a lot) , just staying in the Hauptbahnhoff itself might well be nicer than Caligula. You can search the Berlin thread for various opinions.

Angus is right, esp. If you want to minimize time and maximize options. Another option would be take the S-Bahn to Zoo, then the U-9 South to Bundesplatz. Royal is right there, if when you come up facing north, on the left / west side about 5 meters walk. See http://www.royalgirl.de/bordell-berlin.html MonRouge [url]http://www.monrouge.com[url] not so far from Wilmersdorferplatz S Bahn. Not sure what the Hbhf constraint is?

Alfonso

02-18-13, 11:14

Try the Berlin Intime search engine. Assume your German up to it (hint Handentspanung) or just translate as needed.

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/suchexxx.php

Maybe Angus has some massage buddies who could fit the rub and tug bill? Not our usual request to be sure.Thanks for your reply.

Looks like massage might be my best bet. But I prefer European ladies.

Any German-only massage shops?

Looking to be in and out in 30 mins, if possible!

Angus Magee

02-18-13, 11:44

Thanks for your reply.

Looks like massage might be my best bet. But I prefer European ladies.

Any German-only massage shops?

Looking to be in and out in 30 mins, if possible!This place I think you can get more than massage (if you want it) but it does have a fairly good reputation. Maybe the lady Leoni will fit your criteria?

http://rheinsberger78.de/neu_leonie.html

Finding a 'German' German might be a bit of a challenge but if you are okay with Polish or some other EE nationality it will not be difficult at all.

AM

Zapzapzap

02-18-13, 13:39

Hi Zzz,

I had a couple of amazing experiences with Mia a few years back.

I shared a threesome with her and her girlfriend Nicole and I would have to say that these were some of the most memorable threesomes that I ever had. Nicole is the 'intimate' friend on her profile in the website.

She was passionate and open minded. Combined GFE and PSE all the way. Watching her and Nicole get it on as they both tended to me was awesome. They were really into each other as best friends would.

Mind you, this was some time ago.

Do report back if you do get the chance to see her. I would be interested to know if she is still as hot and vibrant as before.

HowieThank You.

I will be in Berlin early March and will try to book Mia. I will report.

Alfonso

02-18-13, 14:06

This place I think you can get more than massage (if you want it) but it does have a fairly good reputation. Maybe the lady Leoni will fit your criteria?

http://rheinsberger78.de/neu_leonie.html

Finding a 'German' German might be a bit of a challenge but if you are okay with Polish or some other EE nationality it will not be difficult at all.

AMLeoni is nice, but I'm looking for a more mature lady.

I'm sure there is a bouyant German hausfrau market in Berlin. You see mature ladies in other eros centers in Germany.

Angus Magee

02-18-13, 14:35

Leoni is nice, but I'm looking for a more mature lady.

I'm sure there is a bouyant German hausfrau market in Berlin. You see mature ladies in other eros centers in Germany.Well what can I say. This is your fantasy not mine and as RB notes below my interests lie else where. All I can suggest is that you go out there and have a look.

AM

Rocketboy0

02-18-13, 14:59

Leoni is nice, but I'm looking for a more mature lady.I'm sure there is a bouyant German hausfrau market in Berlin.Using the Berlin Intime Search engine, minimum age 40, then changing cup size, starting at DD. 5 minutes work:

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-BellaMaria-12285.html (this could be.)

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-MarieChristin-30252.html

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-JudithLaurentius-28813.html

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-Rosy-26244.html

http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/olivia.html

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-Vera-30528.html

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-Lucie-29120.html

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-Linda-28979.html

Ages seem to vary slightly, some are weightier choices (to put it mildly), a couple might have escaped from the Zoo, and now you are on your own, my dear Alfonso. Not my field at all.

Bobo.fr

02-18-13, 21:41

Leoni is nice, but I'm looking for a more mature lady.

I'm sure there is a bouyant German hausfrau market in Berlin. You see mature ladies in other eros centers in Germany.Prices would be higher than in eros centers :

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/caro-e.htm

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/constanz-e.htm

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/lisa-e.htm

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/leonie-e.htm

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/mercedes-e.htm

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/mathilda-e.htm

Finite

02-18-13, 23:00

Looking for BBHJ from a large breasted mature (40 plus) lady.

Nearest to this I have had in Berlin, was in the back row of a sex kino on Kaiser-F strasse. But the lady, and the kino, was a bit skanky. I prefer the hausfrau type.

Any ladies that specialise in this value-for-money form of safe sex?

In a brothel called Tiffany's. The line-up was mature [when I was there], actually there where only two girls of seven that couldn't be described as just that. When I visited the place. But these things can of course change during the week, they have a calender for every girl.

http://www.ritter11.de/bordell-girls/saskia.php

Istanbul73

02-19-13, 14:44

Hi there,

I'll be visiting Berlin for the first time in March, do you guys know wether the radisson blu is girl friendly?

I'm looking for fresh girls, nothing special, is Artemis worth seeing or what would be your most notable experience in Berlin (clubs? Fkks? Escorts?)

Thanks for your feed backs!

EuroSex

02-19-13, 22:49

From the Hauptbahnhof you could probably get to Artemis faster than you could Caligula. It is 6 stations away on the S Bahn which would be about a 15 min. Ride then a 5 min. Walk.

You did a say a nice club. Not sure that Caligula qualifies.

http://mapa-metro.com/mapas/Berlin/mapa-berlin-web.jpg

AMThanks for your reply.

I see the Artemis FKK but I don't so much like pay to enter. I see it's a very big club, I prefer something more discreet.

I'm continuing to search and any help is appreciated.

Rocketboy0

02-19-13, 23:25

wether the radisson blu is girl friendly? Depends-most hotels don't care unless she stays over night and you have only paid for a single occupant. The safe thing is to pay for 2 if you think that might happen. But in reality, probably not an issue and it is obviously more obvious in a small hotel vs a huge one. If things go bad, we will visit you in prison.

I'm looking for fresh girls, nothing special, is Artemis worth seeing or what would be your most notable experience in Berlin (clubs? Fkks? Escorts?)Ah, just read this thread, the Artemis thread, the Angus Magee blog, and decide for yourself. We are happy to help newbees with unusual or sensitive requests, but when you have just general stuff, and all the info you could ever hope to have in these pages, just do your homework, or as the locals say in Berlin, RTFF. It is all here.

Angus Magee

02-20-13, 09:52

I'm continuing to search and any help is appreciated.If you here in the evening you could give La Folie a spin. It is much smaller with an entry fee of €14. The last two times I was there (3 or so years back) I left disappointed but then I have been spoiled by Artemis much better selection and atmosphere. But as I say it is only open in the evening, I think from about 20:00 onwards.

http://www.la-folie.de/

Would be good to get a current report on this place.

Go to Wilmersdorfer/Charlottenburg and it is about a 5-10 minute walk from there.

I really think that you would find the Caligula or KG day time fare pretty grim. It is bad enough at night.

AM

EastGoing

02-20-13, 20:04

Hi guys,

You are a such a mine of infos that I would like to ask some more advice. March is approaching and so is my trip. 8 nights. I'm starting the "homework", not only by RTFF, which I do nearly daily, but also by taking notes and making verifications and researches. Since I'll land in the evening, I checked the latest suggestion, www.la-folie.de. Unfortunately, and I'm noticing this also in other clubs, I read that basic service doesn't include BBBJ, which for me is compulsory, and after paying 60-80 euros for 30 mins, which may not be enough to finish the deed, I would dislike to add tips or extras. So far it seems that only FKKs don't put BBBJ as extra. Can you post some places where it's not extra? We already discussed my intentions: to go only once, unless it overstrikes me, in Artemis (which day would be the best for a newbie?) , and to try anyway the flatrates and kinos. For the rest, due to costs, I planned only one shot a day, so I welcome kind suggestions for scheduling my days and my attempts.

Thank you

Angus Magee

02-20-13, 20:37

For the rest, due to costs, I planned only one shot a day, so I welcome kind suggestions for scheduling my days and my attempts.Most bordellos charge extra for BBBJ and cim. A few of the cheaper places include BBBJ (no cim) when you book a half hour or more. It seems to me that this practice used to be more common. The only places I can think of that still advertise this are Stella and Aston.

http://www.stella-berlin.de/?part=preise

http://www.aston-berlin.de/?part=preise

There may well be others but I can not think of any.

AM

Rocketboy0

02-20-13, 21:01

I read that basic service doesn't include BBBJ, which for me is compulsory, and after paying 60-80 euros for 30 mins, which may not be enough to finish the deed, I would dislike to add tips or extras. So far it seems that only FKKs don't put BBBJ as extra. Can you post some places where it's not extra?, in Artemis (which day would be the best for a newbie?)Artemis-see Artemis thread on days and times-http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1386766&viewfull=1#post1386766

You are correct on BBBJ-pretty much extra everywhere. 20-30 Euros (even Caligula). It can happen occasionally without warning (it has to me several times at Kamilla Dee) but it is very dependent upon mood and the girl and you cannot possibly predict it. I wish a lot of things were different in this world, I wish girls would pay me. But that's just the way it is. You just got to suck it up to get sucked up. Considering how much less it probably costs here than in your home country, just roll with it. Or don't eat food during your stay, or reduce hotel costs. Etc.

Days and bordellos- http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1373198#post1373198

Boy1978

02-20-13, 21:28

Hello,

Today I did visit Liberty tonight, not so nice area. But I went in, the girls that was free had to low standard in my eyes. The place did not look good at all. I will never go there again.

So. Then I had to try Van Kampen. My first time there, nice place. Good standard / very nice bathrooms and nice girls. Don't remember the name on the girl I choose, but she did a good job. Young, worked only 2 days a week. I will go back to Van Kampen.

I also was on Royal, and visited Nina. Lovely girl, very nice body and kind. Will see Nina again.

So, Royal and Van Kampen is my favorites. Any other places with the same standard or higher? *

(I been to: tiffanys (ok place) , liberty, van kampen, royal and kamilla dee)

Kimino

02-21-13, 00:18

The place did not look good at all. I will never go there again.

So, Royal and Van Kampen is my favorites. Any other places with the same standard or higher? *What didn't you like about the place, apart from the weak lineup? If you didn't get a girl you probably only visited a small "parade room".

Anyways, you could try Monrouge or Prestige. Did you visit Artemis?

Bonne chance.

Kimino

Rocketboy0

02-21-13, 14:20

I did visit Liberty tonight, not so nice area. But I went in, the girls that was free had to low standard in my eyes. The place did not look good at all. I will never go there againKimino might be right. On the decor side of things, Liberty is not at all shabby (and the downstairs semi VIP area super nice which I doubt you saw). Certainly similar to KD, Prestige, Tiffany`s (actually nicer than Tiffany's IMHO) on the main floor, and maybe a tiny bit below van Kampen (which only recently moved so obviously all new) and Royal. It is clean, well run, decent prices, and well, I have other venues for good architecture, though this for me is not a such a priority vs the obvious, which is. There are a number of very nice girls at Liberty, it is one of the better bordellos, and it sounds like it might have just been an off day, for them, or for you. Obviously a taste thing.

Burghy

02-21-13, 15:34

Hello Guys, I m in Berlin now and I want to try a girl in my flat.

I can spend 200 euro for 1 hour.

Do you know good agencies or site for this money?

Some individual girls?

I like young model type girls.

Be Russian is a plus.

Thanks.

Burghy

Burghy

02-21-13, 15:37

Angus Magee

02-21-13, 17:55

Hallo, I m in Berlin now.

Do you know good agencies or individual girl that can come at my place? (I don t speak German)

I like girl model type and young.

Budget is 200 euro for 1 hour.

Can you show me some links where I can choose? You have tried some girls and can help me?

Thanks!I would give Kamila Dee escort a try. Plenty of reviews in this thread from Bobo.fr. Got to use the search function.

http://www.lust-in-berlin.com/

AM

StefanP

02-21-13, 21:48

Just spent some time with a great girl. Sandra Marini. She is from Spain but speaks English, Spanish a little German and French.

The pictures on her Website are accurate. Services include LFK, BBBJ, DATY, multiple positions and extra shots on goal. She is friendly, smart, and fun to be with. Easy to contact and responded in a timley fashion. This is the link http://sandraescortberlin.escortfiles.com/gallery

Boy1978

02-22-13, 12:17

Kimino might be right. On the decor side of things, Liberty is not at all shabby (and the downstairs semi VIP area super nice which I doubt you saw). Certainly similar to KD, Prestige, Tiffany`s (actually nicer than Tiffany's IMHO) on the main floor, and maybe a tiny bit below van Kampen (which only recently moved so obviously all new) and Royal. It is clean, well run, decent prices, and well, I have other venues for good architecture, though this for me is not a such a priority vs the obvious, which is. There are a number of very nice girls at Liberty, it is one of the better bordellos, and it sounds like it might have just been an off day, for them, or for you. Obviously a taste thing.It is a taste thing, did not see the VIP area you write about. The rooms I have seen at Tiffanys have been pretty ok I think.

My next place to do is Prestige and Monrouge.

Kimino; thanks for tipping me about Royal. Never visited Artemis.

Boy1978

02-22-13, 12:26

Iceberg27

02-23-13, 19:35

Angus Magee

02-23-13, 19:57

Hello,

How is the freebie scene in the city? Worth to visit for this purpose? Can you make a comparison between Moscow, Petersburg and Ukraine? Which clubs are most popular? I can only speak english.Just what do you mean by "the freebie scene"? If you mean is it possible to go out crawling the bars and come up with some sex with a non pro then yes-if you have a little bit of game, some cash to party with and perhaps some relaxed standards. See back in the thread Belvaros' tales of drunken debauchery.

If you mean are there hordes of young, nubile German and EE student girls looking for sponsors then no. I am sure that if you are young-ish, good looking, monied and have game that there are bars and discos where it is possible to score. Sadly though none of us here know anything about that. One of the reasons we are here.

AM

Canyon

02-23-13, 20:44

Angus Magee

02-23-13, 21:19

Stefan,

I'm interested in checking out Sandra, but I couldn't get the link to work. Is the link correct?

CanyonThe site appears to be offline. I checked it out two days back and it worked though the link itself was somehow broken.

In any case I googled and found this.

http://eurogirlsindex.com/en/escorts/12521-sandraescortberlin.aspx

Contact info is all there.

To be honest though something about that post did not smell right to me. I would recommend caution.

AM

Canyon

02-23-13, 21:28

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1390556]The site appears to be offline. I checked it out two days back and it worked though the link itself was somehow broken.

In any case I googled and found this.

http://eurogirlsindex.com/en/escorts/12521-sandraescortberlin.aspx

Contact info is all there.

To be honest though something about that post did not smell right to me. I would recommend caution.

Thank you, Angus

BenSisko

02-24-13, 03:03

Rocketboy0

02-24-13, 11:20

I found very little info about ebony women in Berlin.Kamilla Dee, Royal, van Kampen, Liberty, have a few and actually Artemis can have 5 or so on a busy night. See the various websites.

Angus Magee

02-24-13, 11:49

Hello mongers!

I'll be visiting Berlin pretty soon. Just read the last 50 or so pages in this thread but I found very little info about ebony women in Berlin.

Can you recommend me some brothell or maybe some escort (only incall because I travel with three buddies he he)?

I'm not interested in very cheap places or quantity. Only in quality. One great session is all I want and I don't mind to spend up to 150-200 Euro / h.

Thanks in advance!Don't know anything about price, quality or reliability but there is an escort service in Berlin that specialises in "ebony pearls".

http://www.ebonypearls.de/Gallery

They do have an in call location but do not seem to say where it is on the website.

Make sure to write a report if you use them.

AM

EastGoing

02-25-13, 17:35

I haven't booked the accommodation yet, I'm searching on www.booking.com, come across Hotel Aldea Novum, cheap in Schoneberg (where there is also Sorat Hotel) , Bulowstrasse. Comments, actually complaints, say plenty of prostitutes even out of the doors! That's really terrible! Especially for a cheapwise monger like me! LOL! One complaint mentions mice out there, this is really bad, but actually I wouldn't dislike the chance to take a girl upstairs just walking out or maybe choosing from the window! (smilie). Hoping the hotel wouldn't complain for that. I read back many pages on Berlin thread, haven't reached any info, but I remember bad comments, perhaps I read them on Angus blog, however situation at the moment might have changed. By the way, I PMed Wanking, he said he knows nothing about flatrates and places including BBBJ in Berlin. Anyway in his map I found the link to Airport-Muschis, clicked and site seems to be updated. 2013, I'll add it to Caligula and King George for possible visit.

Guessing Rocketboy will readily spread some cheese out of the hotel in case I go there, I await responses to SW situation in Schoneberg and keep on browsing for other accommodations. I remember a post of Wanking about SW somewhere else, maybe Kurf-something, but haven't found (yet) anything cheap enough to suit my needs in that area. Can't wait to read responses ahahahahahahah

P.S. Just seen a post of Angus on page 8, January, 80 euros upwards in Oranjestrasse, I'll better not take into account SW

Angus Magee

02-25-13, 18:57

I haven't booked the accommodation yet, I'm searching on.

www.booking.com

, come across Hotel Aldea Novum, cheap in Schoneberg (where there is also Sorat Hotel) , Bulowstrasse. Comments, actually complaints, say plenty of prostitutes even out of the doors! That's really terrible! Especially for a cheapwise monger like me! LOL! One complaint mentions mice out there, this is really bad, but actually I wouldn't dislike the chance to take a girl upstairs just walking out or maybe choosing from the window! (smilie). Hoping the hotel wouldn't complain for that.WK stayed there I think. He did a report last summer and gives fairly detailed info on the area. While the girls may work at the door step I really doubt the hotel will be happy with you bringing them through the lobby. You might be able to sneak them in some back way. Most hotels in Berlin are girl friendly, but not necessarily street walker friendly. I can not say that I blame them as they do have other guests to consider and being in that area they must want to keep things a bit decent.

There is I am told a small rent by the hour place just down the street (Steinmetz-eck Hotel. 69 Bülowstr.) where the girls take their trade. Or you could follow WK's lead and use the great outdoors or the LSD video kabin.

AM

Rocketboy0

02-25-13, 20:20

Bulowstrasse- comments, actually complaints, say plenty of prostitutes even out of the doors! That's really terrible! Especially for a cheapwise monger like me! LOL! One complaint mentions mice out there, this is really bad. Guessing Rocketboy will readily spread some cheese out of the hotel in case I go thereI won't need to as by all accounts, them girls bring their own. Read Wanker's report and stock up on surgical gloves, and maybe a gas mask.

BenSisko

02-25-13, 22:10

Don't know anything about price, quality or reliability but there is an escort service in Berlin that specialises in "ebony pearls".

http://www.ebonypearls.de/Gallery

They do have an in call location but do not seem to say where it is on the website.

Make sure to write a report if you use them.

AM
Kamilla Dee, Royal, van Kampen, Liberty, have a few and actually Artemis can have 5 or so on a busy night. See the various websites.Thanks guys on fast response. I'll check out sites of this bordels and also that specialized agency.

StefanP

02-26-13, 23:52

Stefan,

I'm interested in checking out Sandra, but I couldn't get the link to work. Is the link correct?

CanyonI'm sorry but now I see. (yes is correct. http://sandraescortberlin.escortfiles.com/

StefanP

02-26-13, 23:58

Caveman1344

03-02-13, 14:04

Hello everybody.

Oing to Berlin soon, any comments on Kamilla Dee?

Ravein2

03-03-13, 00:17

Hello everybody.

Oing to Berlin soon, any comments on Kamilla Dee?Hello, every Caveman.

Yes: it begins with a K and ends with an amilla Dee.

Oh, and lest I forget: RTFF

Angus Magee

03-03-13, 13:31

Hello everybody.

Oing to Berlin soon, any comments on Kamilla Dee?KD is possible one of the most discussed bordells in the thread. So I echo Ravien2's advise that begins with R and ends with TFT.

AM

Rocketboy0

03-03-13, 14:34

Oing to Berlin soon, any comments on Kamilla Dee? ..I echo Ravien2's advise that begins with R and ends with TFT.AMI hate missing a good parade. I did take my meds today so very calmly, I will just say this. Herr Cro Magnon, it does seem like this is your first post, and maybe you are new to the whole thing? Maybe your question is due to a language issue, where English is not your native tongue? I dunno.

But you can see by the reaction, it is a waste of everyone's time to both write, and expect answers to such vague questions. If there is something specific you want to know (that cannot be gotten off the KD excellent website as they also publish a detailed schedule, they have lots of photos of the place and girls, or the A Magee blog) then fine. But ask it-info on a particular girl, some odd pricing issue, or rooms, etc. But the Berlin forum is just pretty extensive already, and if you use the search function for eg "KD" or "Kamilla", a lot will pop up. So, try their website, the AM blog, the search function, and if you still cannot get some burning issue resolved, ask away.

You might also explain what "Oing to Berlin" is. Something involving pigs?

ScottishGuy

03-04-13, 03:02

After scanning this site for the possibilities for a spot of action, I plumped for Anni-Porsche at Gneisenau Strasse. The location was right across from the U-bahn and was fairly anonymous.

I made my way in and explained to Anni that I only spoke limited German. She explained that her "English is shit". It was quite good to me by the way. She showed me around.

I have to say that this having been my first time in such a place in a foreign languauge environment I was a wee bit backward at going forward and Anni encouraged me to put myself about a bit. I also wouldn't have minded her putting herself about me.

I was with a couple of disinterested younger ladies in their early 20s, but I much preferred Sheila, a sort of Gilf with dark hair. I made a point of being first with her so I could go down on her, which I did for half an hour. She was most enthusiastic and I look forward to returning.

A bargain for 75 Euros and I will be back in again.

Wanni

03-04-13, 04:32

Hi,

Did any of you visit Paris Deluxxxe? I know this is not a thread for TS lovers, but in fact I find this out as interesting. I'm visiting Berlin next week, any experiences?

Angus Magee

03-04-13, 12:45

Hi,

Did any of you visit Paris Deluxxxe? I know this is not a thread for TS lovers, but in fact I find this out as interesting. I'm visiting Berlin next week, any experiences?Sorry to say but not only is there little interest but the owner of this site forbids such discussion (TS / Ladyboys). So in this area you will have to blaze your own trail and not report on it here.

AM

Rocketboy0

03-04-13, 19:57

the owner of this site forbids such discussion (TS / Ladyboys). So in this area you will have to blaze your own trail and not report on it here.

AMYes-I too look forward to not reading about it. Things are confusing enough with the simple straight and narrow.

(Bearsk I sure hope you are reading this.) :eek:

Kimino

03-05-13, 11:19

Ciao guys.

Can anybody post the prices for extras at VK? I know not all girls will offer them, but just to have an idea. Long time I don't visit.

Interested in: BBBJ, CIM, Anal.

Kimino

Natpres

03-05-13, 16:06

Angus Magee

03-05-13, 17:15

Is it possible to get hold of ED drugs. Viagra etc. Without prescription in sex shops etc in Germany, specifically in Berlin? If so, any recommendations where? I don't have time for mail order so looking to pick some up on a flying visit.Sorry to say but no. I did read on the Frankfurt thread about a place close to the RLD that might sell what might be viagra but in general I would say bring your own. Germany in general is even more restrictive of prescription drugs than most countries.

AM

MrCampo

03-05-13, 20:34

After looking around, I must admit I am shocked. Atremis, however, is good quality.

Finite

03-05-13, 22:01

After looking around, I must admit I am shocked. Atremis, however, is good quality.I think the bordelloscene in Berlin is more than ok, but of course it depends on your own preferences. I find that the line-up on normal weekdays are better than on weekends. For Artemis it's the other way around. Where did you go?

Rocketboy0

03-06-13, 08:52

Ciao guys.Can anybody post the prices for extras at VK? I know not all girls will offer them, but just to have an idea. Long time I don't visitKiminoBasically the same as elsewhere. 20+ per perv, but it will of course depend upon the girl (if they even do the wicked things you want). The vK base time rate is slightly higher, so eg for kissing, BBBJ 45 min is 140, vs 120 at Liberty, Prestige, KD. You pay more, but there are some very good choices. And the Aldi is right next store for the post pop sugar fix, and to explain why you are in the neighborhood.

Rocketboy0

03-06-13, 08:58

After looking around, I must admit I am shocked. Atremis, however, is good quality.This is absurd. And I am very picky. Any of the better bordellos easily equal or surpass Artemis. Van Kampen, Royal, KD, Mon Rouge, Prestige, Liberty, though the weekends are (as I and others have said many times) staffed more thinly. Just look at their websites. Maybe you were lost in a Neuköln supermarket?

MrCampo

03-06-13, 10:15

Ritter11 and Celine69. Really bad. Do you know Wolke7?

I think the bordelloscene in Berlin is more than ok, but of course it depends on your own preferences. I find that the line-up on normal weekdays are better than on weekends. For Artemis it's the other way around. Where did you go?

Angus Magee

03-06-13, 11:46

Ritter11 and Celine69. Really bad. Do you know Wolke7?This hardly serves as a good cross section of the Berlin bordello scene from which to judge the quality available. Ritter I have never particularly likes though some claim it can be a good place. It always struck me as very old school and the ladies I found there tended to be old pros. That said there are some tasty looking girls on the website. It is simply that it is out of the way for me so it would take some great initiative to get me over there for a look.

Celine is touch and go in my opinion. I have been there a few times and walk (or ran) away in horror. Other times I have found some really nice young ladies. It is central and close to other activities so it is the sort of place to drop by and just leave of the offering is not to your liking. Also with these small places the good girls tend to be booked by appointment so it can be difficult to get a good feel for the place as a walk in. For instance a friend told me that Jenny was (for him) out of this world. She has also received constant good reviews on the local forum.

AM

Finite

03-06-13, 18:45

This hardly serves as a good cross section of the Berlin bordello scene from which to judge the quality available. Ritter I have never particularly likes though some claim it can be a good place. It always struck me as very old school and the ladies I found there tended to be old pros. That said there are some tasty looking girls on the website. It is simply that it is out of the way for me so it would take some great initiative to get me over there for a look.

AMWhat's wrong with old school? . I like the atmosphere in [Ritter / Tiffany], even if many of the "girls" are a tad to old for my taste. I don't think you can judge a place after just one visit, if it's not a supershitty place. I tried Liberty once, I thaught it sucked, but many on this forum seem to like the place, so it's prob. Not such a bad place. I guess I just was unlucky with the girl I chose, and that I didn't like the over all atmosphere.

The worst place I visited is not worth mentioningin in here.

MrCampo

03-06-13, 20:45

For the feedback. Wolke7 was alright, but not worth repeating, if you ask me. 50 EURO is acceptable.

This hardly serves as a good cross section of the Berlin bordello scene from which to judge the quality available. Ritter I have never particularly likes though some claim it can be a good place. It always struck me as very old school and the ladies I found there tended to be old pros. That said there are some tasty looking girls on the website. It is simply that it is out of the way for me so it would take some great initiative to get me over there for a look.

Celine is touch and go in my opinion. I have been there a few times and walk (or ran) away in horror. Other times I have found some really nice young ladies. It is central and close to other activities so it is the sort of place to drop by and just leave of the offering is not to your liking. Also with these small places the good girls tend to be booked by appointment so it can be difficult to get a good feel for the place as a walk in. For instance a friend told me that Jenny was (for him) out of this world. She has also received constant good reviews on the local forum.

AM