Berlin

[I Like Birds]

Am I being too paranoid? Have you ever experienced something similar?
"What to do?" is a very good question. I think police is of no use. Probably I would have called [or written an email] to these guys: http://www.busd.de/
They seem to offer help in the situations when a girl wants to start or quit the job. Earlier version of their web-page was aslo in Bulgarian and Romanian (not sure about Russian; it's about a year that I havent visited it).

It is very sad to realize that these things are happening. An even though I'm quite sure that most readers in this thread do avoid visiting places which are suspicious of traffiking or any forced service alike, of course this does not solve the problem.

[Angus Magee]

"What to do?" is a very good question. I think police is of no use. Probably I would have called [or written an email] to these guys: http://www.busd.de/
They seem to offer help in the situations when a girl wants to start or quit the job. Earlier version of their web-page was aslo in Bulgarian and Romanian (not sure about Russian; it's about a year that I havent visited it).

It is very sad to realize that these things are happening. An even though I'm quite sure that most readers in this thread do avoid visiting places which are suspicious of traffiking or any forced service alike, of course this does not solve the problem.


Funny that you should mention this website as it just appeared on the rotlichtadresse homepage.

http://www.rotlichtadresse.de/

In any case I guess it is still active.

Do remember that to be truly anonymous on the web takes a bit of effort.

[Angus Magee]

Quick question.. which are the best bars and clubs to meet German hotties? Preferably in the centre and upmarket.

Thanks.

Isn't this a bit like asking a pack of dogs where to score free steak?

If I knew that....

Anyway all I can say is that the area around Hackescher Market in Mitte would be a good place to hang out looking for Hotties of all nationalities. There is a strong tourist trade there as well as locals. Rather a young crowd though (by my standards) and you'll have to have your game on I should think.

Also as a place to go on a warm summer evening to hang out and walk, lots of young cute (kind of artsy) girls is on Kastanienallee. from Zionkirschstr. up to the SBahn. There are many outdoor bars & cafes there and I always have thought it may be a good place to meet women. No personal experience though. P4P is maybe just too easy here in Berlin.

I know that I don't really answer your question as you seem to be looking for higher class clubs but I honestly know nothing about this subject as I really don't find clubs much fun. Just saying where I would go if I were a bit more motivated/adventurous.

Good Luck with your hunt and if you do score maybe a short report so that we can all live vicariously through one of our more adventurous brothers.

[Angus Magee]

I tried Artemis about 4-5 times and now that the novelty has worn off, I think it is not a great deal! It's great to see 30 or 40 naked girls and just pick one and take her upstairs, but with 80€ entry + 60€ per half hour, you're looking at 140€ for a half hour. If you want kissing or cim you are up to 160€ or more. So I'll still go there every once in awhile, but I prefer to relax, talk and have a girl who is fresh :-) and not in a hurry to go. So I guess 200€ is not so bad for an hour.


You should not be paying any extra for kissing in Artemis. It is supposed to be included in the basic 60 you pay for half an hour. That being said I find that a number of the girls do not kiss. Personally I never push the point as I find that unless a girl is really at least a little bit into the kissing, why bother?

I find also that Artemis requires a but if effort to really get the most from it's available stock of young lovelies. That is, if you try to go there and find that ever elusive GFE you have to invest some time to really search for girls with whom you have some chemistry. Sit, talk, flirt-hard work but somebody has to do it.

My observation on escort agencies is that the higher end ones seem to encourage you to book a girl for multiple hour sessions (i.e. 4 hrs.) with a price that is quite okay when you can afford 150/hour for a 4 hour date.

But if you are going for the hour (at 100 euros) it is a rather hit and miss affair.

[I Like Birds]

Funny that you should mention this website as it just appeared on the rotlichtadresse homepage.

http://www.rotlichtadresse.de/
In any case I guess it is still active.

Do remember that to be truly anonymous on the web takes a bit of effort.
I know them because "Tiffany" is [or at least was] a member. They had a link on their former web page, and also mentioned it in thier hiring policies. That's how I've run over the thing, actually.

Not sure about anonymity .. If I were to report about the case just described by CB, I probably wouldn't care. Another question is whether these people can indeed do something (care doing something) .. But this is an open question. Finally, I'm not 100% sure I would indeed report

[Ash1001]

Thanks Angus, that's pretty useful. I'll give it a shot..

[Hektor T]

You should not be paying any extra for kissing in Artemis. It is supposed to be included in the basic 60 you pay for half an hour. That being said I find that a number of the girls do not kiss. Personally I never push the point as I find that unless a girl is really at least a little bit into the kissing, why bother?

I find also that Artemis requires a but if effort to really get the most from it's available stock of young lovelies. That is, if you try to go there and find that ever elusive GFE you have to invest some time to really search for girls with whom you have some chemistry. Sit, talk, flirt-hard work but somebody has to do it.

My observation on escort agencies is that the higher end ones seem to encourage you to book a girl for multiple hour sessions (i.e. 4 hrs.) with a price that is quite okay when you can afford 150/hour for a 4 hour date.

But if you are going for the hour (at 100 euros) it is a rather hit and miss affair.Yeah, I agree on the amount of work to find a nice girl in Artemis, especially around trade fair time. Their pricing ends up being quite deceptive because if you get one girl it is rather expensive, so at least for me, I tend to go for two to make the average price lower :-) I don't even remember all the extras the offer, but it seems like they are 20€. I guess one or two girls in there I kissed, but I thought it was because we had good chemistry. I normally am not into kissing the high volume girls.

For the cheap escorts, I guess you get what you pay for!

[Hektor T]

As you might have guessed, I had gotten the "victim of trafficking" vibe by this time, and I felt very bad and uncomfortable about the whole situation. I excused myself, got up and started to dress. She looked at me questioningly for a while, but since we couldn't communicate there was no way for me to explain why I was leaving. I just made some soothing noises and mumbled "kein problem" and left.

Am I being too paranoid? Have you ever experienced something similar? I never met one I thought was a victim of trafficking but who knows? I wouldn't know how to recognize it. When I read your report, I just was thinking that when I went into La Folie I saw some very poor looking Romanian girls with bad teeth. They were more like 6s and 7s than 4s but they just seemed like they came from very very marginal backgrounds. So I didn't feel comfortable in there and would never go back. Maybe there is a fine line between trafficking and exploitation. When the girl thinks that doing it for 35€ (and she is probably getting 20€ or less) is a good deal, then she can't have many other career options, but I do, so I'm not going with her, whether she is trafficked or not.

As for the language thing. A lot of poor immigrants in all work categories arrive in the West with no language skills, so I think the girls with less career options would be more likely to only speak their native language. For me that is no indicator of anything.

That girl that Angus raved about in Liberty, that I also met told me that after one year in Germany she couldn't speak much German, but she was obviously not trafficked as she gave me a rundown on a little bit of her work history (!)

In the end too cheap is often not good, and in this "hobby" I think too cheap is better avoided. Just my thoughts

[Angus Magee]

I don't even remember all the extras the offer, but it seems like they are 20€. I guess one or two girls in there I kissed, but I thought it was because we had good chemistry. I normally am not into kissing the high volume girls.

For the cheap escorts, I guess you get what you pay for!

Extras at Artemis are more than 20€. Here is the run down that I know of: bbbjcim (FT)=50, CoF or CoB=50, Anal=100, Duo w/ lesbian action=50/girl.

So the last one would run you 220 (60+60+50+50) for a half hour session. Then if you came in one of their mouths they would expect another 50 on top for the one whose mouth you came in! If you did a porn style double cim that would probably ad on another 50.

So you see, Artemis is a place to go for certain things and not others. You can certainly burn through the cash there without very much difficulty.

Now I do not know how flexible the girls are with these prices. Perhaps one could cut a deal on the duo if the girls wanted the business. But that would require negotiation and when I go to Artemis I do not want to kill the mood with negotiation. Personally I go there to find the nice GFEs that exist there and generally forget about the extras. I do extended sessions if I enjoy a particular girl.

As for cheap escorts, true you get what you pay is a good general rule but certainly not always the case. I can remember some frighteningly expensive session that were terrible. Also some cheap, cheap sessions that were amazing. Trouble is that the latter type sessions are so damn hard to predict, well, you can't really predict them as they are by nature serendipitous. And you can burn through a lot of cash if you try to search for them with too much vigor.

As long time monger I try to use my experience and my instinct to find the girls that give good service at a reasonable price. And as I really have no experience with the higher end agencies I can not really say if just paying the higher price is worth it.

Now what I would do if I had the funds is frequent such places as Kamila Dee and when I found a girl who I liked I would arrange a multi-hour date. Seems to me that many of the girls there are reasonably low milage and you can test drive them for a fee before committing to a longer more expensive session. Best of both worlds IMO.

[Angus Magee]

[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), light of my life, fire of my loins. my sin, my soul. lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. lo. lee. ta.

"she was lo, plain lo, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock. she was lola in slacks. she was dolly at school. she was dolores on the dotted line. but in my arms she was always [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901).

thus begins vladimir nabokov’s novel “[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)”. (always one of my favorite novels.) and so the name [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) has come to be intimately associated with young, nubile, dare i say pubescent, girls. and while old angus most definitely does not chase pubescent girls, he is always on the look out for those 18+ service providers, that sometimes appear, who still possess that special girlish, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)-esque quality.

a couple weeks back there appeared on the royal web site a girl, appropriately and i am sure with some fore thought, named [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) who, angus’ spidy sense (intuition) told him, would be a perfect, legal loltia experience.


"ladies and gentlement of the jury, exhibit number one is what the seraphs, the misinformed, simple, noble-winged seraphs, envied. look at this tangle of thorns."

mongers and gentlemen of the isg jury i present to you [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) currently in residence at royal.

http://www.royalgirl.de/models/php/over.php?name=[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)

i made the appointment for 16:00 and as i always do arrived and rang the bell a couple of minutes early. as always i was greeted and shown to a nicely appointed room and after short wait [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) entered the room. no disappointment as the girl i met was perfectly represented by the web pictures and she had a beautiful (not really shown on the web pictures) open face with a really nice smile. if anything the one thing that the web pictures do not show is that her breasts are a bit fuller and rounder than they appear to be in the pics. no complaints here. and while we spoke german, her english is quite good.

we introduced ourselves and i told her that i was there for the hour and handed her the 150€ fee. she then asked if i wanted extras-she offers kissing & bbbj(no cim). i told her that i would stick with the basic service but that i may decide later to upgrade. this little comment sort of came back to bite me as i will explain later.

off [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) went with the cash while i undressed and waited. upon her return i was to take the offered shower but just as i was to go another girl disappeared in there. rather than wait i asked if it was okay that i forgo the shower as i had not 20 minutes before at home used the shower. okay with her.

so we lay down together and spent a few minutes getting to know one another with the usual questions. gents, this is a very nice and genuine girl we have here. definitely (and i know i have said this before) not a hard core pro, more the part time college girl making her bills and having some fun.

and the body. old angus was in heaven as he started to nibble on her hard little nipples, eliciting genuine little soft moans and and sighs as she luxuriated in having such worshipful attention payed to her breasts.

and gentlemen, when i headed, with baited breath, down to sample the pussy i anticipated to be a slice of heaven pie, i almost died with pleasure as i peeled back the little pink panties she was wearing and saw the well tended patch of pubic hair on top of her tidy little hairless pussy lips.
as you can no doubt tell i love (not that type of love) this girl and could wax poetically for several pages, describing the next hour of sex that we had. but that might get boring for you readers and i don’t want that to happen. so i will shorten it a bit and just mention the high lights.

so as regular readers of my report know i love to lick pussy. and [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) it so happens loves to have her pussy licked. thus a large part of our our hour long session was spent with my snout buried in and snuffling around her pussy, which got quite wet and even somewhat engorged. and as member charles browne will no doubt agree, there is nothing quite like a clean ass hole to bury your tongue in and lotlia’s ass was just te sort i like to lick and bury my tongue in.

for me the best part of the session came about 20-25 mins. in when i suggested i lie on the bed and she ride my face. never in all my long years of mongering and civilian sex has a girl ridden my face with such enthusiasm. she quite literally almost suffocated me as she ground her clit and puffy pussy lips up and down my face for some ten minutes until she came to a shuddering "o". what a way to go.

and the whole session turned very, very passionate and wild with deep, deep kissing and some very hot bbbj on little angus. and here is where my “i’ll decide later” remark came back to bite me.

now i guess i knew, but somewhere in my warped mind i thought, as she stated to kiss me deeply and bob enthusiastically on my cock with her succulent little mouth, that i was getting freebie extras. that my skilled pussy licking had caused her to throw monetary issues to the wind and simply kiss and suck my cock with abandon...

there is no fool like an old dog though and in fact at the end of the session she asked me for the cost of these extras (20+20) which kind of made it a very expensive session. i protested a wee bit (about the kissing, not the bbbj as we really had not kissed very much but rather deeply when we did) but did not press the issue as i did indicate at the beginning of the session that i might be open to extras. a lesson learned. and as you can no doubt tell i was very happy with the session over all and did not really feel that she in any way took advantage of me.

so what more can i say. as i mention, much of the session was spent as a lick feast for me. but she did not ignore my pleasure and the blow job was very pleasant and even hot as she let me hold her head and fuck her mouth with some enthusiasm. and in the end the condom came on and we had a rather short missionary fuck as she has a very small and tight pussy that had little a spurting into the condom in no time.

i did feel a bit bad about the slight kissing-bbbj misunderstanding but as i say it was entirely my fault and except for the slight monetary (and a wee bit of my ego) damage, it was no huge deal.

would i repeat with [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901). most definitely. sometime next month i hope when i have a bit more cash. it was a very fun session, if a liitle pricey. and if you enjoy this sort of girl she comes with my highest 5 star recommendation.

thanks for reading.

am

[Charles Browne]

and as member charles browne will no doubt agree, there is nothing quite like a clean ass hole to bury your tongue in and lotlia’s ass was just te sort i like to lick and bury my tongue in.i can attest that both charles browne and his "member" are very fond of clean little assholes. charles likes to stick his tongue and member in them.

thank you for a nicely detailed report about a promising new girl. it seems that we are getting rather good deals at artemis, though, where bbbj+kissing are more or less standard inclusives. and that at a price per hour considerably less than you had to pay here.

is [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) really as short and petite as the website states? and does she genuinely look "[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)", or can you tell that she is 21+? i once met a lovely young lady in amsterdam, whose id and lilcense i made sure to double check before i sessioned with her. she was 18 years and three days. looked quite a bit younger, though. just as i prefer, dirty old bastard that i am

if you heven't posted a link to this post in the "posts of distinction" thread, please do. for future reference, we ought to post links to all longer posts giving good detail about specific girls/establishments, i think.

[The AF]

i can attest that both charles browne and his "member" are very fond of clean little assholes. charles likes to stick his tongue and member in them.

thank you for a nicely detailed report about a promising new girl. it seems that we are getting rather good deals at artemis, though, where bbbj+kissing are more or less standard inclusives. and that at a price per hour considerably less than you had to pay here.

is [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) really as short and petite as the website states? and does she genuinely look "[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)", or can you tell that she is 21+? i once met a lovely young lady in amsterdam, whose id and lilcense i made sure to double check before i sessioned with her. she was 18 years and three days. looked quite a bit younger, though. just as i prefer, dirty old bastard that i am

if you heven't posted a link to this post in the "posts of distinction" thread, please do. for future reference, we ought to post links to all longer posts giving good detail about specific girls/establishments, i think.


nice way of putting it..!! :-))

are you guys 40 plus? i remember one of my cousins...the older he got, the more of an "ass-guy" he became, hehehe..!!

cheers,
the af

[Angus Magee]

is [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) really as short and petite as the website states? and does she genuinely look "[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)", or can you tell that she is 21+? i once met a lovely young lady in amsterdam, whose id and lilcense i made sure to double check before i sessioned with her. she was 18 years and three days. looked quite a bit younger, though. just as i prefer, dirty old bastard that i am

hummm....in all honesty she is 21 and when i met her she more or less looked 21 and, more to the point, acted as a 21 year old. but then unlike in the pics she was wearing a pink panty/bra combo and not the schoolgirl skirt she has on in the pics.

i think that if you asked she could probably pull off a good schoolgirl roll play with the right costume. but her body (the slightly fuller breasts than the pics appear) is more womanly than a true "[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)". and this was just fine by me.

she is a lovely young woman.

[Angus Magee]

Nice way of putting it..!! :-))

Are you guys 40 plus? I remember one of my cousins...the older he got, the more of an "ass-guy" he became, hehehe..!!

Cheers,
The AF


I am over 40. But I have enjoyed licking ass since I first started licking pussy. But it has to be the right ass. I am not so into licking the browner, hairy-er variety of ass. It has to be the more smooth and "clean" variety that some girls have. Then I'll bury my tongue right up as far as it will go.

And I am not so into ass fucking. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it. But it has to be in the flow of the sex and not just ass fucking for ass fucking's sake. I very rarely would have anal with a service provider as I find that many of them offer it as a way to increase the bill and not because they really, really love anal. For me this is an important ingredient.

[Charles Browne]

hummm....in all honesty she is 21 and when i met her she more or less looked 21 and, more to the point, acted as a 21 year old. but then unlike in the pics she was wearing a pink panty/bra combo and not the schoolgirl skirt she has on in the pics.

i think that if you asked she could probably pull off a good schoolgirl roll play with the right costume. but her body (the slightly fuller breasts than the pics appear) is more womanly than a true "[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)". and this was just fine by me.

she is a lovely young woman.i don't doubt that she is. i tend to go for young and nubile-looking girls most of the time, though i can surely make an exception to the rule when someone like ella or aida comes along.

and perhaps going for the freshest faces ain't such a hot strategy, if you're looking for gfe and relaxed service. young girls are perhaps more nervous and uncomfortable service providers? what do you other mongers here think about that?

[Charles Browne]

I am over 40. But I have enjoyed licking ass since I first started licking pussy. But it has to be the right ass. I am not so into licking the browner, hairy-er variety of ass. It has to be the more smooth and "clean" variety that some girls have. Then I'll bury my tongue right up as far as it will go.

And I am not so into ass fucking. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it. But it has to be in the flow of the sex and not just ass fucking for ass fucking's sake. I very rarely would have anal with a service provider as I find that many of them offer it as a way to increase the bill and not because they really, really love anal. For me this is an important ingredient.I myself am merely over 30. But I'm working on 40...

I too enjoy rimming a nice, clean asshole. Aida's was perfect - small, round, pale, clean and very responsive :) It's not a favourite pastime for me, if the girl isn't into it, but if she is, I will dive for it!

I happen to be rather into ass fucking. When a girl loves it, like my wife does, then it's the best thing sex has to offer. If she has a nice ass, that is. But I suppose I could be into it even if the girl does it only for money. I would actually dearly love to give Conchetta of Artemis a good, long ass-fuck - particularly if she wasn't really into it. But that is maybe just a daydream, and it wouldn't be very good if she didn't enjoy it. Who knows.

Angus: You like it when girls enjoy themselves just as I do. I know for a fact that many girls enjoy a good, strong vibrator even more than my tongue and fingers. Have you ever brought a vibrator to a session, and asked that the girl use it on herself while you have "ferkehr"?

[Angus Magee]

and perhaps going for the freshest faces ain't such a hot strategy, if you're looking for gfe and relaxed service. young girls are perhaps more nervous and uncomfortable service providers? what do you other mongers here think about that?

there are no hard & fast rules for this i would say. in general you are right about a bit older being perhaps a bit more relaxed. but then there are always exceptions this rule. one has to play it by ear.

for me, late 20's seems to be the age when the perfect balance of youthful beauty & experience is to be found. but, as with my recent experience [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), i am always happy to find a girl who is in her early 20's.

true 18 year old service providers are exceeding rare.

[Angus Magee]

Angus: You like it when girls enjoy themselves just as I do. I know for a fact that many girls enjoy a good, strong vibrator even more than my tongue and fingers. Have you ever brought a vibrator to a session, and asked that the girl use it on herself while you have "ferkehr"?

I have never done this. Bringing one's own vibrator would probably be a bit off for most girls as there are health considerations with vibrators. The girl might rightly wonder-where has this vibrator been?

But I am sure that if you asked, many girls (many ads mention Vibratorspiel as an extra) would be happy to provide their own and use it how ever you want. But I imagine this would be charged as an extra at most bordellos. Personally I am not so into watching a girl diddle herself with a vibrator that I would pay extra for the privilege.

I also imagine that if you built up a good rapport with one of the Artemis girls, became a good regular customer, that she might be persuaded to bring one into the room. Not sure if this would elicit an extra charge or not. I guess that would depend on how much she likes you etc.

I have also had escorts who brought along their toys and included them in the session as part of the normal service.

[Charles Browne]

Bringing one's own vibrator would probably be a bit off for most girls as there are health considerations with vibrators. The girl might rightly wonder-where has this vibrator been?I was actually thinking more in lines of bringing out the heavy artillery; something like the Hitachi Magic Wand: http://www.condom.com/vh-magicwnd.html

If the girl is concerned about hygiene, you can put a condom over the head of the massager, and it is for use on her clit only - while you penetrate her vaginally or anally. It usually produces spectacular orgasms within minutes, which is very enjoyable to me. But I haven't suggested it to a service provider, only in private.

[Ozzy Ozzman]

I'm booked for Berlin around the May Day weekend, which I'm really thrilled about considering I haven't visited this lovely city since last autumn (Frankfurt has been my destination of choice as of late for gratification purposes).

I'll definitely be spending most of my time in Berlin at Artemis, and I'm interested, not to say eager, to find out whether my two favourite girls Romy (Spain) and Celina (Lithuania) will be there.

Furthermore, I've never visited an "ordinary" brothel in Berlin, but I've been drooling over the pictures of Adriana at Monrouge for quite some time, so I'll most likely be paying that establishment a first time visit (Monrouge also being conveniently close to my favourite drinking place das Mommsen Eck). I've tried to do my homework about Monrouge/Adriana, but I would appreciate it very much if someone (maybe resident Berlin expert Angus) could correct me where I'm wrong and fill in the blanks:

If you go to Monrouge before 16. 00 on a weekday, you get a 1 hour session for € 100 (and € 140 after 16. 00 I think). FO is an extra which costs either € 20 or € 50 more, I'm not sure. You can just ring the doorbell and they let you in and you get to pick from the line-up whoever is available. Is it also possible/advisable to call ahead and pre-book? If the girl you're looking for isn't available at the moment, are you allowed to wait for her on the premises or do you have to pick another one or leave? I gather Adriana is a day-worker, so at what hours is she most likely to be present? Which girls come recommended if she isn't present (I've got Nicky's name pegged, but I believe she only works evenings/nights)? And I guess there will be no hard feelings if there's no one else to my liking, I say Nein Danke and leave?

One other thing I've never done in Berlin, is to visit a Sex Kino. Most likely I won't be doing it this time either, but I'm a little curious about them and can't rule it out entirely. Can someone give some info on these sordid places? Do you sit in a large porn cinema watching porn like some raincoater and girls prowl the aisles offering their services? What services do they offer; Französich mit or ohne, or the whole package? Is the dirty deed done right in the seat, or do they have special rooms for that, and what's the damage for the different services? And how do these girls look (not too good I would imagine)?

And finally, I understand there can be quite a lot of Krawalle in Berlin on May Day. Do these disturbances spill over to Charlottenburg or is this part of town as peaceful as always? I would hate to get caught up in something, z. B. Artemis coming under siege from some left wing lunatics for being "a place for the degenerate exploitation and repression of women" or something.

Thank you in advance for any answers.

Ozzy

[Penvagano]

Hello,

I´m new in this forum.

I´m planning to travel to Berlin next june and I´m intererested in find a girl who offers fisting anal (to introduce my all hand into her ass). May your recomended some girl or some place to find her.

Fernando

[Member #2718]

i finally decided to pay a visit to salon prestige while on my way home from work last friday. since my german is limited i was a little leary from the earlier report, but it was on the bus route, i was in need of some serious relaxation, so i figured what the heck. am i ever glad i dropped in.

between google and the isaw map i knew the basic location so once there i just followed the sign to the door around the corner. the buzzer is all the way at the bottom but i was rewarded quickly with a "click" of the door. wondered down the hall to the first door on the left, another buzzer. finally the madam lets me in and invites me to follow her (no vocals, but i'm sure the hungry look in my eyes said all that was necessary). it seems i got the "african room" from the looks of the furniture. she asked if i wants something to drink and then left to fetch the girls. i'm a big fan of the "fish bowls" you find in similar establishments in asia because you can scan the herd for what ever floats your boat, and get some idea of who looks the most interested in your business. here instead i settled into the big chair to do the "individual interview." one at a time the first three girls came in and introduced herself said hello and left. the selection wasn't too bad and i was thinking taking rowena since i like them svelt with long hair when anni, an import from thailand walks in and introduces herself. she just had this air about her that demanded "take me now." i had to wade through two more girls that i barely remember before the madame came back and asked who i was interested in.

anni returned shortly with my cola and asked how long i wanted to stay and something about what options i wanted. i managed to tell her i wanted the half hour and agreed to whatever options she was talking about. paid her the €100 which seemed reasonable and she left the room. i immediately got undressed and was again sitting in the chair when she came back ready to get started. her first order of business was to position me on the edge of the jacuzzi were she preceded to give junior the once over with a wash cloth. once that was out of the way the fun began. she redefined sensuous hugs and had no problem with my exploration of her firm body. anni knows when to tease and when to go with the flow.

with most of the other girls 20 minutes is usually over kill, but anni kept building juniors interest without trying to rush things along. i came close to losing during some heavy 69 action, but she sensed that it was time to move to the next level and she pulled back a bit. junior got his rain coat and anni road like a cowgirl competing for the gold. after a quick cleanup anni finished up with one of the best massages i have gotten outside of asia.

at no point did i feel rushed and when i checked my watch we were a bit over time, but it was never mentioned. just a request to ask for her the next time i stop in. a request i will be happy to comply with, though i may see about adding some jacuzzi play into the mix.

love them [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118).

[Angus Magee]

I was actually thinking more in lines of bringing out the heavy artillery; something like the Hitachi Magic Wand: http://www.condom.com/vh-magicwnd.html

If the girl is concerned about hygiene, you can put a condom over the head of the massager, and it is for use on her clit only - while you penetrate her vaginally or anally. It usually produces spectacular orgasms within minutes, which is very enjoyable to me. But I haven't suggested it to a service provider, only in private.

That certainly is a humdinger;-)

Your guess is as good as mine as to whether you could get a service provider to accept your bringing that to a session.

What I imagine is that it would require a bit of fore warning, i.e. mention it and extoll it's virtues (feature/benefit in sales speak) in one session and bring it to to next. Just hauling it out of your bag with a girl that you have just met may not work. Women, even pros, are funny that way IME.

[Angus Magee]

Hi,

Much of what you ask is actually addressed in various posts in the back pages of this thread. But as I have a bit of time this morning...



I'll definitely be spending most of my time in Berlin at Artemis, and I'm interested, not to say eager, to find out whether my two favourite girls Romy (Spain) and Celina (Lithuania) will be there.

Best post this question in the FKK Germany,Artemis thread. I am an all to frequent guest at Artemis but have not run across either of these two ladies, at least by name. Maybe a description?




If you go to Monrouge before 16. 00 on a weekday, you get a 1 hour session for € 100 (and € 140 after 16. 00 I think). FO is an extra which costs either € 20 or € 50 more, I'm not sure. You can just ring the doorbell and they let you in and you get to pick from the line-up whoever is available. Is it also possible/advisable to call ahead and pre-book? If the girl you're looking for isn't available at the moment, are you allowed to wait for her on the premises or do you have to pick another one or leave? I gather Adriana is a day-worker, so at what hours is she most likely to be present? Which girls come recommended if she isn't present (I've got Nicky's name pegged, but I believe she only works evenings/nights)? And I guess there will be no hard feelings if there's no one else to my liking, I say Nein Danke and leave?

Adriana is certainly a good choice for a fairly quiet (at least with me) GFE. Though I must ad that, again with me, it took her a session or two to warm up.

And your info on MR is more or less accurate. A normal (in normal hours that is) session cost 130. FO=+20, FT=+30 (Adriana does FO but not FT), I think anal is 50. Adriana most definitely does not do anal.

And you will find Adriana there Mon-Fri (possibly some Saturdays) until about 16:00-17:00. She has told me that she never works evening and likes the regular daytime hours. Calling ahead is both possible and if you want a particular girl, advisable. You could, I'm sure, just stop by and wait. There is a bar at MR but the drinks are bordello prices i.e. expensive. I have never seen any one but girls at the bar and imagine that it gets more use at night.

All bordellos in Berlin work more or less the same. You either call and make a "Termin" or you just drop by and choose from the parade. I have very often checked out the girls and found no one to my liking and left. I can only remember once where I experienced any attitude or pressure for doing this. It is an accepted practice. Some bordellos (Liberty, Salon Prestige) do not publish their appointment (one that will be answered live) phone number on their web site. So you have to go at least once to get the number and then have in your possession a bordello business card. Not so good if you are a married man. Wives seem to have a nose for finding such things I hear.

Alternates to Adriana (not the same body type but very, very hot IMO) would be Crissy. But...she is often "on vacation" and I am not sure of her hours. But I have seen her once during the day for the special.



One other thing I've never done in Berlin, is to visit a Sex Kino. Most likely I won't be doing it this time either, but I'm a little curious about them and can't rule it out entirely. Can someone give some info on these sordid places? Do you sit in a large porn cinema watching porn like some raincoater and girls prowl the aisles offering their services? What services do they offer; Französich mit or ohne, or the whole package? Is the dirty deed done right in the seat, or do they have special rooms for that, and what's the damage for the different services? And how do these girls look (not too good I would imagine)?


That is more or less how it works. Services offered-hand jobs in the kino, Covered french (very, very very rarely FO/FT and only in very
seedy Neuköln Kinos-beware) or there are small rooms in the back if you want full service. Prices vary a bit but are not so expensive especially the service in the kino seats-perhaps 25-30 Euros for a bj that can last about 15 mins. before the lady starts to complain;-) Half an hour sex & covered french in a room will run you usually 50 Euros. If any place tires to charge you more than this I would get up and leave as they are trying to rip you off. This can happen (I hear) in the more tourist-y type establishments in and around Stuttgarter Platz with obvious non-locals.

Sex Kinos are IMO not really worth it except as a dirty thrill. The bj is never that good and usually ends mostly with a hj. The girls are very often,well, ugly. And when you leave you (well at least when I leave) feel sort of dirty and regretful. -And- I have experienced some pretty good kino sex-specifically a couple of years back with one woman at a sex kino near where I live. She was just a great fuck.

But in the end I prefer the cleanliness of a place like Liberty and the sex kino is really not much cheaper when you ad in the entrance fee-usually 5 Euros.


And finally, I understand there can be quite a lot of Krawalle in Berlin on May Day. Do these disturbances spill over to Charlottenburg or is this part of town as peaceful as always? I would hate to get caught up in something, z. B. Artemis coming under siege from some left wing lunatics for being "a place for the degenerate exploitation and repression of women" or something.

In my five years in Berlin I have never even seen any trouble on May Day (I live in Schöneberg) and can say with complete confidence that unless you go looking for it neither will you.

If you have not already done so I also suggest that you check out my Berlin Guide. It was written last summer but most of the info found there is still more or less accurate I think.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48

Have fun and don’t forget (as most do) to report back your findings and experiences as a way of giving back to this valuable free resource.

AM

[Angus Magee]

I found this today on the homepage of one of the bordello website (Tomsen). With the help of an on line translator I gather that there is an important court date coming up, involving Salon Prestige, but possibly affecting all Berlin apartment bordellos.

http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/berlin/detail_dpa_20934600.php

http://www.busd.de/index.php?id=103

If anyone with better German skills than I can give a short synopsis it would be appreciated.

[Angus Magee]

Hello,

I´m new in this forum.

I´m planning to travel to Berlin next june and I´m intererested in find a girl who offers fisting anal (to introduce my all hand into her ass). May your recomended some girl or some place to find her.

Fernando

I just found this in another thread (Essen). If you are willing to make a side trip to Essen you might find what you are looking for here.

http://www.pussyclub-essen.de/


And n Berlin I think if you are going to find it anyway you will find it here.

http://www.sexgeile-modelle.de/

specifically

http://www.sexgeile-modelle.de/maria.html

No personal experience here. Just a hunch and I could be wrong.

AM

[Jackyo]

I read in the paper about a "pussy club" in Berlin which offers food, drinks and all the girls for 70€ as a special off peak time offer now that it is a recession. Anyone know what and where this place is?
I've not been but from my understanding its a PT, a Partytreff.

Pay one price, stay as long as you want, f_ as much as you want with whomever you want.

[Angus Magee]

I've not been but from my understanding its a PT, a Partytreff.

Pay one price, stay as long as you want, f_ as much as you want with whomever you want.

Not to be confused with the Pussy Club in the link I just posted below. Same name but different clubs I think.

There are at least a couple of reports on the Berlin Pussy Club/partytreff somewhere further back in this thread and perhaps in the RoD thread.

[The AF]

I found this today on the homepage of one of the bordello website (Tomsen). With the help of an on line translator I gather that there is an important court date coming up, involving Salon Prestige, but possibly affecting all Berlin apartment bordellos.

http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/berlin/detail_dpa_20934600.php

http://www.busd.de/index.php?id=103

If anyone with better German skills than I can give a short synopsis it would be appreciated.


You understood it quite correctly..!!

Apparently the "Bauamt" in Berlin (some kind of municipal construction/building authotity) started to arbitrarily send notifications to Appartment Brothels in Berlin around 2006. Some establishments were "threatened" to lose their license on short notice due to certain "side-line disturbances" or implications that such establishments would have. But the argument is that most of these appartments bordellos are present at their premises for 20 years or more and there never have been complaints by neighbors or anything.

Now Salon Prestige will have a court date on May 5th, which is hoped to be precedent for the majority of well-run establishments.

It seems maybe some conservative bureaucrat achieved a high-tide in one of these authorities and played it out tough. Typical for German authorities and courts now is that these things can take years. But the expectationis that the court session will help to reduce uncertainty. Some had feared the city is planning to abolish the decentralized brothel environment and move towards solutions like in Hamburg or Frankfurt where establishments in appartments are concentrated to smaller areas.

Let's see what will happen...

Have a good Sunday,
The AF

[Angus Magee]

You understood it quite correctly..!!

Apparently the "Bauamt" in Berlin (some kind of municipal construction/building authotity) started to arbitrarily send notifications to Appartment Brothels in Berlin around 2006. Some establishments were "threatened" to lose their license on short notice due to certain "side-line disturbances" or implications that such establishments would have. But the argument is that most of these appartments bordellos are present at their premises for 20 years or more and there never have been complaints by neighbors or anything.

Now Salon Prestige will have a court date on May 5th, which is hoped to be precedent for the majority of well-run establishments.

It seems maybe some conservative bureaucrat achieved a high-tide in one of these authorities and played it out tough. Typical for German authorities and courts now is that these things can take years. But the expectationis that the court session will help to reduce uncertainty. Some had feared the city is planning to abolish the decentralized brothel environment and move towards solutions like in Hamburg or Frankfurt where establishments in appartments are concentrated to smaller areas.

Let's see what will happen...

Have a good Sunday,
The AF

Thanks AF. Let's "press our thumbs" for a favorable outcome. But as you
say, for anything to happen could take years. And in the mean time the guy leading the charge could be photographed coming out of KD-that is if American conservative politicians are anything to go by.

And there is always Artimis...

[Estief]

Thanks again for all your info.

I check every day your posts.

The next week I will be in berlin so other 2 simple questions:

- at artemis is it possible to have an handjob service in the kino area?

And is it considered as a complete session?

- I'd like to have multi sessions in my artemis experience so in berlin is possible to buy viagra or cialis to have a little chemical help?

Bye and thanks again.

[Ravein2]

Hi all!

I’m just back from Berlin (again.) and did not let the chance pass me by for some visits to my favorite tourist attractions. The average score this time was a bit lower than before. The good experiences were on par with previous visits to Berlin, but I had a couple of lows that brings the overall score down to average.

* Ronja at Salon Prestige (http://www.topprestige. De/ronja. Htm): The line-up of girls was quite thin this day, so I should maybe have bailed, but decided instead to try a session with Ronja. She looks good, nice body, but is normally not my kind of woman, visually. Ronja was friendly and nice to talk with, but was a bit too passive for my taste, seldom took the initiative for new things. But hey, maybe she was waiting for my lead, maybe she was a bit tired, I don’t know. The chemistry was lacking, but she could probably be just the thing for others. So a very average session, 40 mins plus FO and kisses put me back 80+20+20. Repeat? No, she is not my kind of girl. Could be great for others though.

* Angelina at Liberty (http://www.libertyberlin. De/angelina.html): Well, another limited line-up and I started to wonder if it was still holiday season in Berlin. Went with Angelina even if she wasn’t my visual favorite but she had a twinkle in her eyes that sealed the deal. She was friendly and talkative, but did not let talk get in the way of more carnal pleasures. Angelina administered a very competent OWO, I really had to stay focused not to finish there and then. Cowgirl and mish followed and she was equally competent in those activities. So a nice time was definitely had! Again 40 mins + OWO and kisses, 80+20+20. Repeat factor? Visually maybe, service definitely.

* Grace at Kamilla’s (http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/grace. Htm): Ok, when I arrived in Kamilla’s I became sure that I had chosen the wrong time to visit Berlin as I was told that there was only one girl available (I was there around 3pm.) One! Damn. Part of the fun with these places is going through the line-up introduction-phase. Ah well, I luckily remembered Grace’s picture from the web-site, so when the haus-mutti told me that it was her that was available I decided to stay after all. Grace was very friendly and easy to connect with. Visually? Well, the pictures give an ok indication, although her hair was different (braided? ). She’s also got a wee bit extra around her waist but not too much. And two words: Wonderful boobs! After the shower she gave me a great massage, we kissed around a bit (light FK), I touched and kissed her here and there and she got seriously wet! Time was running out so we went for a quick cowgirl to finish: fantastic view! So I could leave Blissestrase a happy man once again. Repeat factor? Quite possibly!

* Coco at Royal (http://www.royalgirl. De/models/php/over.php? Name=coco): The first few times (well, many times actually.) I visited Royal I was almost always impressed with the talent that worked there. Beautiful, young, service-minded women seemed to be the rule. The last few times? Well, the beauties are still there, but it seems nowadays there are a bit more women that are not interested in providing a good service. The line-up on this particular day was, again, quite impressive so I had a good feeling. Decided to go against my instincts and chose Coco. Normally I am not too interested in plastic-blondes, and Coco is definitely the "Baywatch-traum" that the web-site claims. She looks really good, both face and body (apart from two things) could fall in the category of dream-girl. Her boobs on the other hand. Well, they are porn-boobs. So if you like the Pamela Anderson-type of girl, except want her face to be prettier, then Coco can be just what you're looking for. The service? Well, that is where she became quite a turn-off for me. I am used to paying for extras in these places, so I chose kisses and OWO. But it turns out that with Coco everything is an extra. You want to kiss her body? You must pay extra! It doesn't matter if you kiss her boobs, her knees or shoulders. Any kiss away from the lip-area (which I had payed for already, and her kisses was not very impressive, no full DFK) was an extra. Try to touch her downstairs? That is an extra! And it is pathetic enough to charge for these kind of activities at the beginning of the encounter, but to bring up the subject during the proceedings was just a total mood breaker for me. The only good part of the action was her OWO that, without being terribly deep, was quite nice. Cost? 100/45 mins + 20 OWO +20 kiss (which turned out to be more like "kiss". :.(). Repeat factor: No way! I was reminded that I should trust my instincts, and stay away from the plastic-blondes. But if you want to have fun with a Baywatch/porn-blond and don’t need the GFE then maybe Coco will be just what you’re looking for. Just be prepared to shell out for extras if you want more than the bare necessities.

* Sarah at MonRouge (http://www.monrouge. De/sarah.html): Since I was in Berlin I had to try to meet the wonderful Bella at Monrouge. So I walked in one day and asked for her and was told that she’s "on holiday". Well, I guess she has quit, her pictures are after all removed now. Too bad! Only two girls were available, and I decided to stay a while with Sarah. She’s a nice brunette, latin I guess. She told me Spanish, and that sounds reasonable from the way she looks. By chance I was there quite early (around 3pm) and got their reduced rate, 100/hr. Extras 25 each, OWO and kisses. After the shower we spent some time just cuddling and chatting She was nice to talk to and I did not get the feeling that she was stalling. Her kisses were not terribly passionate, but ok. OWO was quite good, the only downer was that she did not want me to reciprocate. The "normal" positions followed, and I could walk away quite satisfied. Repeat? Maybe, even if I didn’t get the GFE-feeling that I normally desire.

This was my last day in Berlin, and as you can understand I was less than impressed with my success-rate this visit than I have been on previous occasions. I guess the only thing I can do is come back one day and try to find some new favorites. The empire WILL strike back!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Penvagano]

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My regards

[Penvagano]

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[Angus Magee]

Thanks again for all your info.

I check every day your posts.

The next week I will be in berlin so other 2 simple questions:

- at artemis is it possible to have an handjob service in the kino area?

And is it considered as a complete session?

I am quite sure that any number of girls would be over joyed to provide this for you. And yes it would be considered a full session. You might have to chat up the girls a bit first to find one who would take her time (perhaps stipulate this to her) or it could be a very expensive 10 minute hj. Ella (Russian Blond)-see the Artemis thread for a better description) would be a very good choice for this IMO. She would take her time if you asked and her hand work is top notch. You might have trouble keeping you pecker out of her mouth though as she loves to suck.


- I'd like to have multi sessions in my artemis experience so in berlin is possible to buy viagra or cialis to have a little chemical help?

Bye and thanks again.

No way. Germany is a modern western nation and things like this require a doctors prescription. Actually Germany is even more strict than other western nations. You can not even buy a simple antibiotic cream (for small infected cuts) here with out a doctor's 'script.

[Angus Magee]

Hi all!

I’m just back from Berlin (again.) and did not let the chance pass me by for some visits to my favorite tourist attractions. The average score this time was a bit lower than before. The good experiences were on par with previous visits to Berlin, but I had a couple of lows that brings the overall score down to average.

Thanks. Great report. Very informative and it will be posted in the RoD.

I am a bit surprised that you received such crappy service at Royal. I think myself I would have complained. If you are to be charged for every little thing this should be made clear before you pay. I would expect this type of service from an Oranianstr. street hooker, but not a girl in a bordello where you are paying 80/ half hour.

Concerning kissing-I find it always advisable to hold off on paying for kissing (extra) until you can determine that you have at least a bit of a connection with a girl. Then the extra 20 or so euros can be worth it. But for me there is nothing worse than kissing a girl who is obviously just doing it for the 20 euros. I guess this is a bit funny. I don't mind fucking a girl for cash (of course when she gets into it it is better) but with kissing it feels more intimate I find.

Many Thanks.

AM

[Ravein2]

I am a bit surprised that you received such crappy service at Royal. I think myself I would have complained. If you are to be charged for every little thing this should be made clear before you pay. I would expect this type of service from an Oranianstr. street hooker, but not a girl in a bordello where you are paying 80/ half hour.

AMHi Angus,

I think maybe I was not 100% clear in my original post about Coco. She did kind of (! ) signal that she charged extra, for things that are normally included, before any money changed hands. What happened was that I asked for the "normal" extras, OWO and kissing, and accepted 20 Eur for each. Then she asked if I didn't want anything else (unspecified) and I said no thanks. This was countered with the suggestion that I could leave a few extra 20-Euro-bills on the table, and if we agreed on more extras as proceedings were under way she would go and collect for any additional extras. Again I said no thanks, as I imagined that the other extras would be more "non-vanilla" things (such as anal, WS, SM or whatever) that are not interesting for a conservative fellow like me.

When I walked away, after feeling less than satisfied, I started rationalizing about the whole thing and came to the conclusion that: Hey, of course she can charge extra for anything she wants, but then she will not receive any return business from this hobbyist. Maybe she feels sure that her visual appearance will attract enough attention that she can charge for extras that normally are included. This would be "supply-and-demand" in full effect, and I have to accept that. The only thing to criticize is that this kind of info should be given to the guest in a manner that is impossible to misunderstand, before a session is agreed upon, so that both parties in the transaction will be fully informed.

So maybe, just maybe, a Coco-session with all kinds of extras agreed upon and payed for would be great. Or maybe a stripped (no pun intended) session would be fantastic for someone who is 100% visually oriented, and just want to f. A Baywatch-bird.

I can not discount these possibilities, all I know is that I have learned from my encounter, and will stick to my instincts next time I am at Royal. And I WILL return to Bundesplatz!

Cheers!

[Ozzy Ozzman]

Much of what you ask is actually addressed in various posts in the back pages of this thread. But as I have a bit of time this morning.Thank you for your very informative reply, Angus.


Best post this question in the FKK Germany,Artemis thread. I am an all to frequent guest at Artemis but have not run across either of these two ladies, at least by name. Maybe a description?Romy (Spanish) has dark hair and a very cute face - she's basically what I would picture Spanish Señorita to look like (i.e. both complexion and facial features are very Mediterranean). She's maybe 165-170 cm tall, and I dare say 2-3 kilos too much for a washboard stomach, but by no means fat. Her breasts are large and nice with a natural look, but upon further inspection small scars give the game away. She provides one hell of a GFE.

Celina (Selina ? - Lithuania) is a tallish blond, maybe 170-175 cm I'm guessing. Slim, with perfect natural C-cups and a beautiful face. A truly stunning girl who can give a very energetic and passionate performance to boot. She's been all the rage the times I've visited Artemis and she's been present (she lives in Lithuania and commutes to Berlin every now and then, staying at Artemis). If she gets into the main lounge, she's usually grabbed within minutes, so you need to be on your toes to get a session with her. I've sometimes had to place myself by the stairs or just inside the door from the Automaten to snatch her straight away after she's cleaned herself up from a previous session. The fact that you haven't noticed her makes me fear she's no longer working (oh dear god, I can't stand that thought), as you'd surely take notice if you saw her.


Adriana is certainly a good choice for a fairly quiet (at least with me) GFE. Though I must ad that, again with me, it took her a session or two to warm up.

And your info on MR is more or less accurate. A normal (in normal hours that is) session cost 130. FO=+20, FT=+30 (Adriana does FO but not FT), I think anal is 50. Adriana most definitely does not do anal.

And you will find Adriana there Mon-Fri (possibly some Saturdays) until about 16:00-17:00. She has told me that she never works evening and likes the regular daytime hours.I'll just have to cross my fingers that she'll be working the days I'm there. Judging from the website that body looks absolutely killer and what's seen of her face also looks very promising.


Sex Kinos are IMO not really worth it except as a dirty thrill. The bj is never that good and usually ends mostly with a hj. The girls are very often,well, ugly. And when you leave you (well at least when I leave) feel sort of dirty and regretful. -And- I have experienced some pretty good kino sex-specifically a couple of years back with one woman at a sex kino near where I live. She was just a great fuck.

But in the end I prefer the cleanliness of a place like Liberty and the sex kino is really not much cheaper when you ad in the entrance fee-usually 5 Euros.Yes, on further thought it'd be a waste of time, money and spunk when I could get girls and service a world apart at a classy bordello for just about the same price, or at Artemis, which also offers Kino BJ's (and more), and where I'm going to pay entrance every day anyway. I think I'll give the Sex Kinos a wide berth.


Have fun and don’t forget (as most do) to report back your findings and experiences as a way of giving back to this valuable free resource.Thanks, and rest assured a comprehensive report will follow.

Ozzy

[Toscana]

Hi Angus,

I think maybe I was not 100% clear in my original post about Coco. She did kind of (! ) signal that she charged extra, for things that are normally included, before any money changed hands. What happened was that I asked for the "normal" extras, OWO and kissing, and accepted 20 Eur for each. Then she asked if I didn't want anything else (unspecified) and I said no thanks. This was countered with the suggestion that I could leave a few extra 20-Euro-bills on the table, and if we agreed on more extras as proceedings were under way she would go and collect for any additional extras.This is pretty unusual, isn't it? I suspect that the management of Royal, who are aiming at the classier end of the market, are unaware of Coco's charging practice and wouldn't approve if they knew. There is after all a standard price list. Their interest is returning customers.

I understand your rationale, it's not the money so much, it's the bad taste left in the mouth. But even that is not acceptable really. If you do return and Coco is still on the list, a quiet remark to management that you will not be booking her and calmly stating the reason, would probably be appropriate and would surely not cause you an uncomfortable situation. If you did it before you booked your next session, you might get favourable treatment. Who knows?

I agree, this is a good place. Thanks for the report.

[Angus Magee]

Romy (Spanish) has dark hair and a very cute face - she's basically what I would picture Spanish Señorita to look like (i.e. both complexion and facial features are very Mediterranean). She's maybe 165-170 cm tall, and I dare say 2-3 kilos too much for a washboard stomach, but by no means fat. Her breasts are large and nice with a natural look, but upon further inspection small scars give the game away. She provides one hell of a GFE.

Celina (Selina ? - Lithuania) is a tallish blond, maybe 170-175 cm I'm guessing. Slim, with perfect natural C-cups and a beautiful face. A truly stunning girl who can give a very energetic and passionate performance to boot. She's been all the rage the times I've visited Artemis and she's been present (she lives in Lithuania and commutes to Berlin every now and then, staying at Artemis). If she gets into the main lounge, she's usually grabbed within minutes, so you need to be on your toes to get a session with her. I've sometimes had to place myself by the stairs or just inside the door from the Automaten to snatch her straight away after she's cleaned herself up from a previous session. The fact that you haven't noticed her makes me fear she's no longer working (oh dear god, I can't stand that thought), as you'd surely take notice if you saw her.

Well with Celina I am drawing a complete blank. But with Romy it could be that I have seen her, and indeed spoken with her, quite recently. That is with in the last month. I can not remember the name, but I did have a chat with a girl who pretty closely matches Rommy's decription. Long straight black hair?

She was not really my physical type so I never ended up having a session with her.

As for Adriana-if you show up before 16:00 on a week day I am 99% certain that she will be there-unless she goes on holiday;-)

And her face is really quite pleasing. To tell the truth I have certainly been with better looking sp's, but Adriana has an over all good looks & sweetness package that is hard to resist and rare in the world of P4P. She often reminds me of a "naught schoolgirl" type. And her body is ripe-that is in a few years she will probably put on a bit of weight but right now she is succulent and drips Russian nectar. Definitely one of the MR gems.


AM

[Ozzy Ozzman]

Well with Celina I am drawing a complete blank. But with Romy it could be that I have seen her, and indeed spoken with her, quite recently. That is with in the last month. I can not remember the name, but I did have a chat with a girl who pretty closely matches Rommy's decription. Long straight black hair?

AMYes, Romy's got long, dark hair, though I'm not sure whether it's black or dark brown. It's difficult to tell in those dim lights. She speaks English well with what I (English not being my first language) perceive to be a tiny hint of an American accent. Anyway, the description I've given of her could probably fit a couple of other girls I've seen at Artemis as well (one amongst them being an Argentinian IIRC), so it may not necessarily have been Romy you were speaking with.

Well, in a little over a week I'll be at Artemis to see for myself who's there and who's not. It'll be a considerable disappointed if neither of the two mentioned girls are present, but at least I can take comfort in knowing that there will be an abundance of other beautiful girls there who can "take care of" me. Oh, the anticipation.

Ozzy

[Jodi In Heat]

I am going the last week of May 09. I have been reading here a lot. Would appreciate some quick help as to where to stay in the city, reasonable hotel? Or other accomodation, and near the action. Are there FKK clubs in Berlin city or couples places that allow single men?

Thanks for your help

[Jackyo]

I am going the last week of May 09. I have been reading here a lot. Would appreciate some quick help as to where to stay in the city, reasonable hotel? Or other accomodation, and near the action. Are there FKK clubs in Berlin city or couples places that allow single men?

Thanks for your help
Any person visiting Berlin for the first time must read Angus' (our resident Berlinmeister) authoritative and encyclopedic posts on what to see and do in the Bundeshauptstadt.

This is a link to all three posts:

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Hotel recommendations? Use the search function above and you shall find.

My personal favorite is Hotel Bogota off the Ku'damm.

[Angus Magee]

I am going the last week of May 09. I have been reading here a lot. Would appreciate some quick help as to where to stay in the city, reasonable hotel? Or other accomodation, and near the action. Are there FKK clubs in Berlin city or couples places that allow single men?

Thanks for your help

There is one FKK in Berlin, Artemis, and a whole thread dedicated to this establishment. I suggest that you have a look at the Artemis thread and then if you have any more specific questions it will be easier to help you find what you want.

And there are also swingers clubs here in Berlin that do accept single men, albeit at a higher entry fee. And there is no guarantee that you will even get laid. Depends upon the night and your own style etc.

I have no experience with swingers clubs as they do not really interest me.
But ask me about Artemis....

[Timewaster]

Another user (Jason Czecago) at the prague forum posted this article.

"Berlin's "Pussy Club" has attracted media attention with its headline-grabbing "flat rate".- a 70-euro admission charge for unlimited food, drink and sex between 10 a. M. And 4 p. M. "

"fees have fallen as low as 30 euros in some parts of Berlin and elsewhere, she said. "

Any comments guys? Angus?


Economic Crisis Hits German Sex Industry

By ERIK KIRSCHBAUM, Reuters

BERLIN (April 22) - It did not take long for the world financial crisis to affect the world's oldest profession in Germany. In one of the few countries where prostitution is legal, and unusually transparent, the industry has responded with an economic stimulus package of its own: modern marketing tools, rebates and gimmicks to boost falling demand.

Creating Their Own Stimulus Package
Photo caption:
'It's no secret that nearly every profession around the globe is feeling the effects of the economic crisis -- even prostitution. In Germany, where the world's oldest profession is legal, prostitutes have created their own version of a stimulus package. Brothels, like the GeizHaus in Hamburg, above, are offering, among other things, discounts to help lure back customers.'

Some brothels have cut prices or added free promotions while others have introduced all-inclusive flat-rate fees. Free shuttle buses, discounts for seniors and taxi drivers, as well as "day passes" are among marketing strategies designed to keep business going.

"Times are tough for us too," said Karin Ahrens, who manages the "Yes, Sir" brothel in Hanover. She told Reuters revenue had dropped by 30 percent at her establishment while turnover had fallen by as much as 50 percent at other clubs.
Skip over this content "We're definitely feeling the crisis. Clients are being tight with their money. They're afraid. You can't charge for the extras any more and there is pressure to cut prices. Everyone wants a deal. Special promotions are essential these days."

Germany has about 400,000 professional prostitutes. Official figures do not distinguish between the sexes and the number of male prostitutes is not known, but they account for a small fraction of the total and are treated the same under the law.

In 2002, new legislation allowed prostitutes to advertise and to enter into formal labor contracts. It opened the way for them to obtain health insurance, previously refused if they listed their true profession.

Annual revenues are about 14 billion euros ($18 billion), according to an estimate by the Verdi services union. Taxes on prostitution are an important
source of income for some cities.

Prostitution is also legal and regulated in the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Hungary, Greece, Turkey and in some parts of Australia, and the U.S. state of Nevada.

In other countries, such as Luxembourg, Latvia, Denmark, Belgium and Finland, it is legal but brothels and pimping are not.

'Creative Solutions'

Berlin's "Pussy Club" has attracted media attention with its headline-grabbing "flat rate" -- a 70-euro admission charge for unlimited food, drink and sex between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m.

"You've got to come up with creative solutions these days," said club manager Stefan, who requested his surname not be published. "We're feeling the economic crisis, too, even though business has fortunately been more or less okay for us so far.

"Our offer might sound like it's too good to be true, but it's real. You can eat as much as you want, drink as much as you want and have as much sex as you want." Stefan, who runs other establishments in Heidelberg and Wuppertal besides the Berlin club, said the flat rate had helped keep the 30 women working in each location fully employed.

Other novel ideas used by brothels and prostitutes include loyalty cards, group sex parties and rebates for golf players. Hamburg's "GeizHaus" is especially proud of its discount 38.50 euro price. The city has Germany's most famous red-light district, the Reeperbahn, in the notorious St. Pauli district.
Anke Christiansen, manager of the "GeizHaus," said the effects of the economic crisis were clear. "The regular customers who used to come by two or three times a week are only coming by once or twice a week now."

A "GeizHaus" client, who gave his name as Pascal, said: "Naturally we're all feeling the effects of the crisis." He added that he could no longer afford his usual two or three visits a week.

Guenter Krull, manager of the "FKK Villa" in Hanover, concurred. "The girls are complaining, too, because business is bad and I worry that it's all going to get even worse.

Contingency Plans

Ecki Krumeich, manager of upmarket ##### Club in Berlin, said he resisted pressure to cut prices, although senior citizens and taxi drivers get a 50-percent discount on the 80-euro admission fee on Sundays and Mondays.
"Naturally, we're keeping an eye on the overall economic situation and making contingency plans," said Krumeich, who said his "wellness club" is one of the largest in Europe with about 70 prostitutes.

"Our philosophy is: we provide an important service and even in a recession there are some things people won't do without. Other downmarket places might cut prices but we decided we won't do that. In fact, we raised prices by 10 euros in January."

Stephanie Klee, a prostitute in Berlin and former leader of the German association of sex workers, said even if a few luxury brothels were weathering the storm because of their wealthy regular clientele, many were struggling.
"Just about everyone's turning to advertising in one form or another," she said. "If the consumer electronics shop and the optician come out with rebates and special promotions, why shouldn't we try the same thing?"
While she and her colleagues might have had five or six clients per day a year ago that had fallen to one or even none.

Klee worries, however, that the crisis has led to "price dumping" in some cities -- fees have fallen as low as 30 euros in some parts of Berlin and elsewhere, she said.
"You'll find a lot of customers trying to negotiate prices down now," said Klee. "A 30-year-old came up to me and said 'I lost my job so will you give me a discount?'."
She and others said they were alarmed that amateur prostitutes -- mostly women with low-paid careers -- were increasingly turning to prostitution to make ends meet.

"More and more women are moonlighting on the weekends," said Ahrens. "They're not able to get by with their main job and are in pretty dire straights. For some it works out okay but it's tough for some others and they often don't stay very long."

Additional reporting by Bettina Borgfeld; editing by Andrew Dobbie

[Angus Magee]

Another user (Jason Czecago) at the prague forum posted this article.

"Berlin's "Pussy Club" has attracted media attention with its headline-grabbing "flat rate".- a 70-euro admission charge for unlimited food, drink and sex between 10 a. M. And 4 p. M. "

"fees have fallen as low as 30 euros in some parts of Berlin and elsewhere, she said. "

Any comments guys? Angus?

Well I certainly haven't seen any discounts being offered in the higher end bordellos (KD, Liberty, Royal) and Artemis recently raised it's entrance fee by 10 Euros. Mon Rouge does offer the "early bird special" (100 Euros/hr. before 16:00 on weekdays) but this is not new as far as I know. And they certainly don't advertise this as a crisis special. It is mentioned nowhere on their web site.

I have seen some of the lower end places advertising frequent flyer specials. But personally I am very service oriented when choosing a bordello or an sp. That is, if the service I get is lousy I will not return for a second session even if it is cheaper. I'd rather pay a bit more and feel satisfied.

Cheap sex is cheap sex. There is a market for it but if I was running a bordello I would look at improving the service the monger receive and bring them back in the door this way. If the girls are being asked to do more for less, eventually this will reflect in the customers being unhappy, unsatisfied and they will just start looking around for a place that does satisfy. No matter how many deals you offer.

I think offering P4P services is a business where you really have to look at the psychology, the reasons men come though your door, in order to improve service and thus keep them coming back to spend their money.

[Penvagano]

Hello again,

I'm looking a girl who offers fisting anal at Berlin (introduce my hand into her ass). If somebody could help me thanks.

[Jim Power]

Hi everyone,

Firstly. Thanks to you all, the reports and info on here are extremely helpful to know how the Berlin scene works!

Alas, I didn't have as much time as I would have liked in Berlin but I tried a few places. Artemis would have been good for me but not enough time to do it justice!

Having spent a few days on my feet with one thing and another, I dropped into one of the Thai massage parlours (this one: http://www.longma-thaimassage. De/). Choose the 40 minute "traditional" service with Nicky. Had a wonderful massage; very intense, authentic; with a happy ending! Offered drinks afterwards, all for €40, what a bargain. Felt very refreshed afterwards!

Later that day I visited Liberty (http://www.libertyberlin. De/index_2.html). Unfortunately I hadn't checked out the closing time (10pm. Had just assumed it would be much later, as so much else is in Berlin), and arrived there just as it was closing. They let me in for a "quickie". 20 minutes, €20. I saw Klaudia. I actually really liked this place and would return, the rooms are large and well appointed; the ladies friendly and the price.competitive. I enjoyed my 20 minutes!

The following day I went back to La Dolce Vita II (http://www.pinupmodelle. De/home. Htm), a place I'd visited a few years' ago, with excellent results! Not so this time though unfortunately. Maybe it was the time of day (2pm ish). There were three girls on, two of who were too large for my taste. The slim girl, Ina, was very attractive, and I have to say, had the best breasts I've seen in some time. All natural, size appropriate to frame, pert etc. However, I didn't feel a warm personality at the outset and very nearly left without choosing any of them. But having travelled a little out of the town I thought I'd go with it anyway (30 mins, €50). Ah, I should have trusted my instincts and left. A dismal punt, I'm sad to say in my bottom three of all time. Little/no interest during the time we shared (20 minutes). Didn't like receiving oral except for a concentrated effort on her clit. When I ventured further south, I discovered why: a most unpleasant smell! At that point I decided to do the deed and leave hastily.

FWIW. To my shame I have only a few words and phrases of German, certainly not enough for decent communication or negotiation. But found that it wasn't a problem in any of the places above.

I do love the city (for all sorts of reasons! ) and hope to return soon. In the meantime, good luck everyone!

Cheers

Jim

[Timewaster]

If you prebook a girl in a brothel and when you meet her and don't like her, can you ask to see a line-up or will they be upset at you?

In other words, if you prebook a girl, are you obligated to fulfill it?

[Angus Magee]

If you prebook a girl in a brothel and when you meet her and don't like her, can you ask to see a line-up or will they be upset at you?

In other words, if you prebook a girl, are you obligated to fulfill it?


Hi,

A good question...

Theoretically I would say that you are not obligated until you hand over the fee. In practice though it would not be quite so easy. When you pre book the hausmutti will greet you and then bring you the girl with whom you will discuss prices, length of stay etc. If at that time you decide that she is not what you are looking for you will have to say this to her and ask again to see the hausmutti. Now for me this would not be easy. Maybe for you it would be. I think perhaps I would be able to do it in my mother tongue (diplomatically) but in German it would be hard.

Would they be upset? It probably depends upon the establishment. The better, more service oriented places would not be-or at least they would not show it. The less service oriented places might give you some attitude.

And I have experienced a couple of times that the girl with whom I have pre booked was not available when I arrived. Once the customer before me had extended and then the girl was going home. Once a punter had showed up before me and and claimed that he had an appointment with the girl I had booked. Both times I took it with good humor and asked when the girl would be working again. Just to say that unexpected cancelations can happen both ways and as I say, the better bordellos know this.

[Angus Magee]

Hi everyone,

Firstly. Thanks to you all, the reports and info on here are extremely helpful to know how the Berlin scene works!



Hi,

Thanks for the report.

I have not visited LD I or II for quite some time but always found them both to be a bit hit & miss. Sometimes there were lots of girls, and on occasion I was turned away as no girls were available. I generally found that they had more, and better, girls available in the evening.

As for quality of service, also hit & miss. I had a few great sessions there, was a regular of one girl who has since left. I also experienced some truly awful sessions. I remember once experiencing a bj that was so bad I actually asked the girl to stop. Almost unheard of I think.

As for Liberty-IMO one of the best in Berlin. I am always treated well there and leave with a smile on my face. I guess Liberty is one of the reasons I gave up going to places like LD I & II. I mean the price is just slightly higher while the atmosphere and quality of girl is way, way higher at Liberty.

[Balthier]

Romy (Spanish) has dark hair and a very cute face - she's basically what I would picture Spanish Señorita to look like (i.e. both complexion and facial features are very Mediterranean). She's maybe 165-170 cm tall, and I dare say 2-3 kilos too much for a washboard stomach, but by no means fat. Her breasts are large and nice with a natural look, but upon further inspection small scars give the game away. She provides one hell of a GFE.

Celina (Selina ? - Lithuania) is a tallish blond, maybe 170-175 cm I'm guessing. Slim, with perfect natural C-cups and a beautiful face. A truly stunning girl who can give a very energetic and passionate performance to boot. She's been all the rage the times I've visited Artemis and she's been present (she lives in Lithuania and commutes to Berlin every now and then, staying at Artemis). If she gets into the main lounge, she's usually grabbed within minutes, so you need to be on your toes to get a session with her. I've sometimes had to place myself by the stairs or just inside the door from the Automaten to snatch her straight away after she's cleaned herself up from a previous session. The fact that you haven't noticed her makes me fear she's no longer working (oh dear god, I can't stand that thought), as you'd surely take notice if you saw her.

Well with Celina I am drawing a complete blank. But with Romy it could be that I have seen her, and indeed spoken with her, quite recently. That is with in the last month. I can not remember the name, but I did have a chat with a girl who pretty closely matches Rommy's decription. Long straight black hair?

She was not really my physical type so I never ended up having a session with her.

As for Adriana-if you show up before 16:00 on a week day I am 99% certain that she will be there-unless she goes on holiday.

And her face is really quite pleasing. To tell the truth I have certainly been with better looking sp's, but Adriana has an over all good looks & sweetness package that is hard to resist and rare in the world of P4P. She often reminds me of a "naught schoolgirl" type. And her body is ripe-that is in a few years she will probably put on a bit of weight but right now she is succulent and drips Russian nectar. Definitely one of the MR gems.

AMHi Ozzy/Angus,

I paid a visit to Artemis in March the wonderful Celine was present!

Had 2 great sesions with her. She's very popular. I also wait by the stairs to get her attention.

Balthier

[Amorousman40]

Romy (Spanish) has dark hair and a very cute face - she's basically what I would picture Spanish Señorita to look like (i.e. both complexion and facial features are very Mediterranean). She's maybe 165-170 cm tall, and I dare say 2-3 kilos too much for a washboard stomach, but by no means fat. Her breasts are large and nice with a natural look, but upon further inspection small scars give the game away. She provides one hell of a GFE.You might add she has the most fantastic arse! I saw her about 2 months ago lieing face down as I left the restaurant and I knew I just had to have her. Unfortunately she was talking with a guy whom she soon went off with. The next day I saw her again in same position aboout 6.30. No hesitation went straight up to her and asked whether she was free. Fantastic session! She speaks v. good English. She's 26 and says she's from Malaga. V. assured. Several of the other girls have similar faces. On the previous day I went with a girl called Carmen 21 Rumanian - there's a picture of her on the website. On this occasion I came v. quickly! She was ok. Later in the evening I went with a girl called Alina I think. Anyway she's from Macedonian - late 20's I would say. Diamond piercing in her belly and clit - excellent performer.

[Ozzy Ozzman]

Hi Ozzy/Angus,

I paid a visit to Artemis in March the wonderful Celine was present!

Had 2 great sesions with her. She's very popular. I also wait by the stairs to get her attention.

BalthierI just got back from a three day trip to Berlin and Artemis. Alas, Celina was home in Lithuania for the time being, but would soon be back as far as I could gather.

As far as the practice of picking up girls by the stairs goes, it reached ludicrous proportion this weekend. At the peak hours there was hardly a girl in the main lounge as they were all being picked up as soon as they got out of the showers after their previous session.

I'm writing a comprehensive report of my trip, but due to pressing work commitments it may take a little while to finish. Look for it in the Artemis thread.

Ozzy

[Ozzy Ozzman]

You might add she has the most fantastic arse! I saw her about 2 months ago lieing face down as I left the restaurant and I knew I just had to have her. Unfortunately she was talking with a guy whom she soon went off with. The next day I saw her again in same position aboout 6.30. No hesitation went straight up to her and asked whether she was free. Fantastic session! She speaks v. good English. She's 26 and says she's from Malaga. V. assured. Several of the other girls have similar faces.From Malaga. Bingo, that's her! She was in the exact same place and position the first time I met her, and she seems to hang out a lot on those large sofas on either side of the "cage". She wasn't present when I was at Artemis a couple of days ago. I guess she must have taken a few days off. Very disappointing for me, as this left me without any true GFEs on my trip (see report coming in the Artemis thread for details).

Ozzy

[After9]

Does anyone know any big titted ssbbw ladies operating in Berlin area? I've heard only about Lilli (Bbw-Inessa.com) in Danckelmannstrasse, and curious to find out more.

Ladies at Omello.de website seem a bit bigger, but also there, Lene is the only ssbbw.

[Angus Magee]

Does anyone know any big titted ssbbw ladies operating in Berlin area? I've heard only about Lilli (Bbw-Inessa.com) in Danckelmannstrasse, and curious to find out more.

Ladies at Omello.de website seem a bit bigger, but also there, Lene is the only ssbbw.


What is an ssbbw? Super size bbw?

BBW are not really my thing but I have run across this web page.


http://www.geiles-modell.de/

[Night Cat]

Can anyone recommend some lower-cost mongering venues (including FKK and Partytreff) in Berlin and nearby states? I did searches for "Brandenburg" and "Saxony-Anhalt", and not much came up (just Artemis, which is pricey).

What I have in mind is something like I found in Dorsten-Wulfen, one town with both FKK and Partytreff. I could spend an afternoon or evening in one venue and do 3 or 4 girls, totaling around eur125. The girls and environment were of reasonable quality (see my 2006 posts). I was hoping that the former East Germany would have something similar or competitive price-wise. I'm looking to keep the price down so I can do some "binge mongering" for a few days or a week, without having to travel around too much, and without having to spend thousands. Also, if getting FS with no BJ makes it cheaper in some places, I'd be interested to know.

Thanks in advance for any info.

[Iseeu]

Can anyone recommend some lower-cost mongering venues (including FKK and Partytreff) in Berlin and nearby states?
Berlin has its own partytreff now; Pussy Club located near Schonefeld Airport. It certainly meets your criteria and they have a reduced daytime entry fee. There are a number of reports on the Other Partytreffs thread (I haven't gotten around yet to writing my own report) or Google it. I wasn't blown away by the service or the place, but if all you're looking for is some low cost action with a variety of women, this will fit your bill.

I doubt that you could go there everyday for a week and spend considerable time each visit without going stir crazy. For a change of pace, Berlin has a lot of GB action but you'll need to do some research to find what's on offer during your visit. This link could help: http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Event/Gangbang.php

Njoy and let us know what you find.

[Timewaster]

i've seen references to the word "teeny" in describing a girl here.

what does it mean?

does it mean small or does it mean teenager?

also looking for recommendations for younger girls (18ish).

so far i have [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) from royal.

i was planning to see biata in europasalon. but she is not there anymore.

anyone else i should add to my list?

[Angus Magee]

i've seen references to the word "teeny" in describing a girl here.

what does it mean?

does it mean small or does it mean teenager?

also looking for recommendations for younger girls (18ish).

so far i have [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) from royal.

i was planning to see biata in europasalon. but she is not there anymore.

anyone else i should add to my list?


well, the term "teeny" is ime more of a marketing term than anything else. i find that it means that the girl can (hopefully) pass as a teen i.e. 18/19 years. with some girls (actually very few) it can meant that they are actually 18/19. with most it means (eg. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) @ royal) that they have a young look and can pass for 18/19. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) is in fact 21 i think but has a young look. but if you have read my report on my session with her you will see that imo she has a more mature air to her. that is she struck me as a girl in her early 20's. i do think that, were she a good actress, she could pull off a pretty good teenager in a role play.with the right clothes etc..

the teeny-est girl i have experienced here in berlin is jenny @ liberty. she is, i believe, truly 19 and she plays her teeny card well. she will remind you often as you fuck her that she is a teeny girl, if you should want that. but read my report on her as i can not fully give her my 5 star recommendation.

[The AF]

Dear all,

a while ago you may have followed the discussion about Salon Prestige facing closure by rule of court. Such a rule would have had consequences for other Berlin "house brothels" (so-called Wohnungsbordell) as well. About 400 of those are operational all over Berlin.

Since this week we know that the court had ruled in favor of Salon Prestige. The judge even had inspected the location herself in order to verify that so-called unpleasantries like drunk guests, lewd noises, used condoms all over the neighborhood or excessive neon light ads were not present. The owner Kerstin Berghäuser, a former prostitute who also runs Liberty, can now run her business without the court burden upon her.
This is also good news for most other establishments in Berlin, as this rule will be counted as a precedence rule.

Enjoy,
The AF

[Angus Magee]

Dear all,

a while ago you may have followed the discussion about Salon Prestige facing closure by rule of court. Such a rule would have had consequences for other Berlin "house brothels" (so-called Wohnungsbordell) as well. About 400 of those are operational all over Berlin.

Since this week we know that the court had ruled in favor of Salon Prestige. The judge even had inspected the location herself in order to verify that so-called unpleasantries like drunk guests, lewd noises, used condoms all over the neighborhood or excessive neon light ads were not present. The owner Kerstin Berghäuser, a former prostitute who also runs Liberty, can now run her business without the court burden upon her.
This is also good news for most other establishments in Berlin, as this rule will be counted as a precedence rule.

Enjoy,
The AF


Thanks for letting us know. I have been wondering what had happened with this court case. Good news for us mongers.

[Angus Magee]

I went on a reconnaissance mission this past weekend to Erotic Pension in Schöneberg.

http://www.erotik-pension.de/index.html

This is the in call address for Spree Escorts, formerly Venus Escorts.

http://www.spree-escort.de/

I was not expecting much but as the address is close to where I live I thought I should give it a try. I actually dropped by twice. Once on Friday evening at around 23:00. I rang the bell twice and waited and got no answer. Lots activity next door at King George ( some sort of club with women available) but after a few minutes I left and went home.

I tried again on Sunday evening figuring that as this place is also and escort agency maybe they were all busy on Friday. This time the door was answered quickly and I was buzzed in, walking through the Hof to the garden house, first floor.

The girl that answered the door was Simone (on the web site) and I was ushered into a reasonably nice room to see the parade. The parade turned out to be Simone and Amy. Simone web pictures are not great but they are much better than she looks in person. Amy was okay in a skanky sort of way but she was obviously quite sick (flu?) so I bolted.

My conclusion? I'd give this one a miss boys. There may be a gem lurking in there somewhere but the place did not give me a great feeling of confidence that you would get anything other than mechanical service from a girl who is tired and worn.

[Night Cat]

Berlin has its own partytreff now; Pussy Club located near Schonefeld Airport (...)

I doubt that you could go there everyday for a week and spend considerable time each visit without going stir crazy. For a change of pace, Berlin has a lot of GB action (...)

Thanks for the note. If I go, I'll be there in August. I saw a post saying some venues are understaffed in August, due to girls going on vacation. I hope that's not a problem.

Actually, my main question is, what's on offer in eastern Germany outside Berlin? Perhaps this is the wrong thread, but I thought the Berlin mongers would know. As I said, I did a search on "Brandenburg" and "Saxony-Anhalt" without much success. Is it just that few mongers have ventured into those areas? Or are those areas dead, as far as mongering is concerned?

[Angus Magee]

Thanks for the note. If I go, I'll be there in August. I saw a post saying some venues are understaffed in August, due to girls going on vacation. I hope that's not a problem.

Actually, my main question is, what's on offer in eastern Germany outside Berlin? Perhaps this is the wrong thread, but I thought the Berlin mongers would know. As I said, I did a search on "Brandenburg" and "Saxony-Anhalt" without much success. Is it just that few mongers have ventured into those areas? Or are those areas dead, as far as mongering is concerned?

I don't think that there is much out there in the area that you mention. I am not by any means an expert with this sort of venue but I do keep my ears & eyes open and I have never seen mention of any sort of action outside Berlin in the east.

That being said there may well be some smaller places that cater to a local crowd. My only suggestion would be to ask this question on one of the local German language Berlin boards. That is I guess if you can speak/write a little bit of German.

http://www.rotlicht-modelle.de/

http://www.ich-steh-auf-sex.de/phpBB2/index.php

[Hejasverige]

Hello friends,

I'm going to Berlin this week with a female friend. She wanted to go to a strip-club. Can you recommend a nice club, central, good looking babes, not too expensive etc...

Cheers

[Charles Browne]

Hello friends,

I'm going to Berlin this week with a female friend. She wanted to go to a strip-club. Can you recommend a nice club, central, good looking babes, not too expensive etc...

CheersTjena svensken!

I would recommend that you go to Rush-Hour - they have non-stop striptease and decently good looking girls.

http://www.rush-hour-berlin.de
Rush-Hour Strip Club
Trautenaustr. 23/24, 10717 Berlin
Berlin-Wilmersdorf

Or you could always take your lady friend to Artemis for a completely different experience!

[Angus Magee]

Hello friends,

I'm going to Berlin this week with a female friend. She wanted to go to a strip-club. Can you recommend a nice club, central, good looking babes, not too expensive etc...

Cheers

Hi,

Strip clubs are not really my thing (frustrating and with FKK available...) so I can not say what these places are like, but here are a couple of links to places that I know of.

http://www.rush-hour-berlin.de/
http://www.caesarspalaceclub.de/

And I know that there are some places around Stuttgarterplatz, Charlottenburg but be careful there as many of the establishments there are designed to separate tourists from their money.

If you do go, a report would be useful here as there is not much on here regarding strip clubs.

[Iseeu]

The night after my Pussy Club Berlin “Stand” (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=883061&postcount=3) I had a couple of options to choose from. There was a GB scheduled at one of the Berlin swinger clubs, and I had lusted after Anastasia, the puffy princess, ever since Angus discovered her a couple of months back (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=858959&highlight=anastasia#post858959). After the mob scene the previous night, I wasn’t ready for another one, and knowing Angus to be a man of refined taste and a horny old man like I am, I opted for a session with Anastasia. Called Desire Erotik and made an appointment for 9:30. It was just a couple of U-Bahn stops from my hotel and then a 15 minute walk from the station to the Club. Spotless place. The manager who had taken my reservation greeted me and called out Anastasia. She came in with a huge smile, kissed me and joined me on the couch in the reception area and I was smitten. Lovely blonde, with a beautiful smile and facial features and a devilish innocence in her eyes. She showed me the menu and I opted for the half hour session + FT for 65 Euro, figuring that I would leave the option open for FT even if it wouldn’t be used and at least she would be making some money for the extra service.

She took me to the room, and as we entered, we passionately kissed. Angus had said that she was a good kisser. She was. She started to undress me, and sent me off to the showers. When I came back, she had turned on some slow romantic pop music on the CD, and dimmed the lights. We continued where we had left off, now swaying and dancing to “Lost in Love”. I slipped off her bra, and there they were, beautiful, pink and proud, protruding proudly from her lovely breasts, the objects of my desire, PUFFIES. I worked my way down, keeping to the music, and slowly kissed around them , lightly brushing my tongue against her skin until at last I pulled them into my mouth. Heaven, and I have found God and thank her for creating these luscious morsels. We laid down and cuddled on the bed, our lips glued to each other tongues dancing against each other, and then lightly kissing her on her neck and shoulders, I worked my way down and continued making love to those puffies. Then it was my turn and she went to work on my puffies, heh, heh.

Nice slow BBBJ, paying attention to the scrotum and sensitive areas. Nice mouth and hand action. I wanted more of her, so I turned around and began kissing her thighs and slightly nibbling her inner thighs leading up to her V. Kissed around, focusing on the nice lips, licking up the sweet nectar that had dripped out of her, and then slightly brushing my tongue against her clit. When I finally pulled it into my mouth, she jumped, closed her eyes and lost all interest in my genitals. It took her maybe 5 minutes to come after that, which is a true sign of an non-pro. When she was done, she pulled on the condom and rode me for about 5 minutes, her eyes glazed, her lovely puffies swaying, her hips moving the music. I had been holding back, hoping to prolong as long as possible, not wanting to end this heavenly experience too early. She looked at me and said our time is up, please finish in my mouth. She took off the condom and took me in her mouth and that’s how I came, her lapping up every last drop until I was done.

Berlin just has so many options, and on my occasional visits, I try to mix up my experiences. But this is one not to be missed. I’ve been to KD and some of the others and enjoyed them as well but Anastasia is one of the most innocent looking, genuine and lovely providers I have ever been with. We went way over the allotted 30 minutes, and including the shower time and cuddling and talking in the room afterwards, I spent more than an hour with her. Not a word was said about extra charges, and throughout my time with her she kept her open glowing smile. I should have gone for the hour session to begin with. Next time, I will come earlier, take a 2 hour session and just delight in her company, having her in my arms, and gorging on her wonderful assets. Highly, highly recommended.

[Iseeu]

Made an unscheduled last minute business trip into Berlin a couple of weeks ago. Didn’t have time to prepare as I usually do before a trip, but didn’t need to as I was able to make good use of the our own Angus Magee’s encyclopedia knowledge on all Berlin monger things. I had 3 full days of work commitments, the usual accompanying drinks and dinners, and an equally full list of mongering possibilities to choose from. With Angus’ help, I whittled down my options and ended up making a midnight visit to Artemis (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=880770&postcount=673 ), a scouting trip to Pussy Club ( http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=883061&postcount=3), Berlin’s partytreff, and fulfilling a fantasy with Anastasia ( http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=883835&postcount=1571),, Angus’ puffy princess.

Over a beer, Angus and I had a great talk, catching up on things since our last beer together back in the fall. Back then, Angus was still an FKK virgin, never having ventured past his brothel/escort comfort zone. I did my best then to convince him, that with its proximity, he had to at least visit Artemis once, to be able at least to have a context for comparison with other mongering experiences. Well, as he himself has documented, the rest is history and in the intervening period, he’s become the board’s resident Artemis chief, and that thread has been revitalized. Now he has somewhat mixed feelings, wondering whether it’s a good thing that I was so convincing back then, realizing the addictive effects, and the resulting economic consequences of having a great FKK available 16 hours a day, just a short SBahn trip away. As you may be able to tell from his reports, he’s somewhat of a philosopher and knows how to put his relatively new FKK experience into perspective. We had a laugh about some of the posts, posters and wars waged on ISG, particularly about the FKK Tours. I suggested that with all of his knowledge of the Berlin scene, he consider opening a Berlin sex tour business. Not a bad idea I think, little or no overhead other than marketing costs and Berlin does have a reputation from the old cabaret days as being a permissive, sexual city. As the originator of the idea, I expect my cut, preferably in services rather than Euro. At worst, even if he breaks even, this gig should be good to get him some freebie entrances into Artemis.

I had a great time. I love Berlin; it’s such a great city, and the urban development job that they’ve done there in the 20 years since the unification of the city is incredible. With so many monger options, coupled with great restaurants and places to just sit and have a drink, it has to be near the top of the list of places for any discerning monger to visit.

[Soriano991]

Hi

I'm looking for a little advice from some of the experts on this forum. I am in Berlin for a couple of days but will be short of time to have fun.

I am staying in the charlottenburg area and am considering visiting some place near by or having a girl come over to my apartment. What places/ girls would you recommend.

Ideally I would be looking someone who is enthusiastic and enoys kissing, oral (preferably without)- anal would also be a welcome bonus. My budget is moderate (150ish an hour).

I don't know berlin that well and wouldn't have time to travel far from charlottenburg- all help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

[Angus Magee]

Highly, highly recommended.

Excellent report Iseeu. I felt a stirring in my pants reading it and I will be going for a visit to see Anastasia soon I think-before she gets too busy....

I have to say that I was a bit chuffed though reading that you had so much overtime. The young lady is always quite strict with me & the time. I guess that she really liked you.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Hi

I'm looking for a little advice from some of the experts on this forum. I am in Berlin for a couple of days but will be short of time to have fun.

I am staying in the charlottenburg area and am considering visiting some place near by or having a girl come over to my apartment. What places/ girls would you recommend.

Ideally I would be looking someone who is enthusiastic and enoys kissing, oral (preferably without)- anal would also be a welcome bonus. My budget is moderate (150ish an hour).

I don't know berlin that well and wouldn't have time to travel far from charlottenburg- all help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Best would be if you read some of what has been written in this thread (your research) and perhaps take a look at my Berlin guide to be found in the Reports of distinction thread-a few pages back by now I think.

Have a look to see if anything interests you then perhaps if you have anything more specific to ask, ask away. Questions such as this (who should I see?) are just too nonspecific to answer really. The forum is packed full of info only asking to be mined & used. But that does take some effort on your part.

And as I say, more specific questions will be enthusiastically answered.

[Soriano991]

Thanks Angus and sorry for being to general. I just wasn't sure what places were in the vicinity of charlottenburg.

In reading lots of the reports I've narrowed it down to two options.

1) visit Mon rouge, all the girls look stunning and have good write ups but Jasmin sounds amazing. Only thing putting me off is that she doesn't speak English- will that matter? The other questions I have on Mon rouge are pretty much everything as their website is pretty sparse with information but I guess I will call and find out. Does anyone know what the standard price is for an hour, what is included and what costs extra?

2) have a girl visit my apartment. La passion looks good but there doesn't seem to be any reviews for the current girls. Has anyone had experience with any of them and does anyone know what the standard 100 an hour includes (my german is not good enough to translate their site).

Thanks

[Angus Magee]

Thanks Angus and sorry for being to general. I just wasn't sure what places were in the vicinity of charlottenburg.

In reading lots of the reports I've narrowed it down to two options.

1) visit Mon rouge, all the girls look stunning and have good write ups but Jasmin sounds amazing. Only thing putting me off is that she doesn't speak English- will that matter? The other questions I have on Mon rouge are pretty much everything as their website is pretty sparse with information but I guess I will call and find out. Does anyone know what the standard price is for an hour, what is included and what costs extra?


Mon Rouge is a good choice IMO. But as you say, not much info on the website. As for the speaking English question, it really depends upon you. How important is it that you be able to speak with the girl. The sexual side of a session usually does not need much common language I always find. That is one can usually communicate pretty well what one wants through gestures etc.. But if you like to have a bit of pillow talk afterwards this can be a problem. Often the girls who do not speak English, according to the website, speak a little English in reality. Enough to get by.

Basic price for MR is 130/hr (70/half hour) and this will include covered bj and fucking in various positions. Extras-bbbj 20, bbbjcim 30, anal 50 (I think). If you can get there before 16:00 on a week day they have a special, 100/hour same prices for extras. The only drawback to this is that the daytime staff is quite small so your selection is limited. You would have to call to find out if a particular girl is present (Jasmine).

You might also consider giving Liberty a try.

http://www.libertyberlin.de/index_2.html

It has a slightly cheaper hourly & half hourly rate (120/60) and I have always had good sessions there. It is a well run bordello that cares about it's customers having a good time. It is very close (10 mins. walk) from
Ka De We at the end of the Kudamm. And it has a very informative website which can be translated (sort of) with g-trans.


2) have a girl visit my apartment. La passion looks good but there doesn't seem to be any reviews for the current girls. Has anyone had experience with any of them and does anyone know what the standard 100 an hour includes (my german is not good enough to translate their site).

Thanks

I can not help with specifics about the current girls. I have used this agency twice though and both sessions were top notch. Both with girls who are no longer there. I am pretty sure that there is a review of Minnie somewhere back in the forum but it is luke warm. Pics (blurry as they are) not accurate.

But you will just have to take your chances there I'm afraid as there are no current reviews even on the German forums-that I can find in any case.

The 100 Euro hourly rate includes sex (fucking), kissing (by sympathy) and bbbj, that is condomless bj without cim which is 20 extra. Anal, if the girl does that, is also 20.

Celine has always had very good reviews but she usually will refuse to see non German speakers.

Good luck and please do remember to post your experiences as a way of giving back for the info you have received here.

[Rocketboy0]

I just wasn't sure what places were in the vicinity of charlottenburg.

In reading lots of the reports I've narrowed it down to two options.

1) visit Mon rouge,
2) have a girl visit my apartment. ThanksSoriano,

While Angus's advice is, as always sound, there are 2 limitations with the boutique booty shops:

- Supply side: As they are smaller, whether who you want will actually be there, when you are, is hit and miss.

- Time pressure: While language is not a huge problem, it is a bit more so for non-German speakers, is you will always feel that slight unease about knowing what's really going on, what you'll pay for, and you must quickly get a sense of is the minimal chemistry needed right, as you have about 1-2 minutes to make the choice. Even more so with escort at your flat.

Some people might enjoy this added bit of tension and mystery. But if I were a betting man, and reading your posts I think you are, I'd want to increase the odds of a great time, and lower the stress.

Artemis has a huge advantages for non-Berliners It really is a different experience from most mongering globally - just the whole vibe, and you will have, who knows, 30-50 options, and lots of time to scout. You can really take your time, chill in the pool and sauna, and talk depending upon the girl, for 15-30 min before even committing. So you can see if you can communicate sufficiently, and if there's a mutual click. You will invariably bump into more Anglo speakers, and will be able to also chat with your fellow male members (no pun intended) to get up to the minute field reports.

It is (very) slightly more expensive for 1 session. In a decent house, 40-45 min with the extras can be €120-140, whereas in Art's that's entrance fee plus a single 30 min session. But it's a good deal especially with the food and healthclub bits thrown in. If you manage 2 sessions, even better.

Artemis is very easy to reach - S-Bahn to Westkreuz, then left out the driveway past the tire shop, and it's 3 minute walk, or taxi's in Berlin are reasonable. You might turn up around 20:00, as by then, the night shift has arrived, all still fresh, and you'd have plenty of time before things might get more hectic (23:00). Depending upon the time of night, Art's can be a relaxed club or a high churn and burn love factory. Even so, you can still stay til 05:00 if you wish. Plenty of time to satisfy all needs. Sometimes the main room gets a bit much - the smoke and for me the decidely un-erotic techno music. But you can sit near an open window (you may need to open it yourself) or lie on the circular cushion sofa on the lower level between the pool and kino, and keep a watchful eye on most comings and goings on all levels.

I am a big fan of private houses as well, but I speak Deutsch, know the scene and have my favorites. In your shoes, I'd try the big A first, then Liberty or Kamilla-Douglas perhaps on day 2.

We all look forward to your reports-

[Soriano991]

Thanks Angus,

That was very helpful- I will definetely feed back my experiences. One final questions is kissing included in the standard price at mon rouge or liberty (or is it extra)- also what does kissing with sympathy entail?

[Ortos]

Soriano,

You might turn up around 20:00, as by then, the night shift has arrived, all still fresh, and you'd have plenty of time before things might get more hectic (23:00). Depending upon the time of night, Art's can be a relaxed club or a high churn and burn love factory. Even so, you can still stay til 05:00 if you wish. Plenty of time to satisfy all needs. Sometimes the main room gets a bit much - the smoke and for me the decidely un-erotic techno music. But you can sit near an open window (you may need to open it yourself) or lie on the circular cushion sofa on the lower level between the pool and kino, and keep a watchful eye on most comings and goings on all levels.




Could one of you resident Artemis experts please rate the level of "couch action" prevelant at Artemis? Is there "couch action" to speak of? Please describe the situation...for example: how common would public displays of dfk or bbbj be in the club? Just wondering...

Thanks,

O

[Soriano991]

Rocketboy,

Thanks for the advice. I have thought of artemis but unfortunately I will not have time to take advantage of it. I'm over for only two days and have business commitments throughout the day and night. I'm just hoping to be able to slip away for a few hours.

[Angus Magee]

Could one of you resident Artemis experts please rate the level of "couch action" prevelant at Artemis? Is there "couch action" to speak of? Please describe the situation...for example: how common would public displays of dfk or bbbj be in the club? Just wondering...

Thanks,

O

Hi,

I would have to say that there is generally not much couch action at Artemis. It does not seem to be a part of the "culture" there. In fact, in FKK terms, I imagine (having no experience at other FKKs) that Artemis is pretty much a transactional club. That is the vast majority of the girls cruise the bar and pretty much the first thing out of their mouth is a suggestion that you head to a room. There are girls there who are willing to take the time to hang out a bit on the couch and maybe do some kissing but you have to search them out. And it also depends how busy the club is and how much they want the business.

All that being said, I have on occasion experienced DFK and even a preliminary couch bj as a warm up to a session in the room. Just not very often. And this might have to do with my own "game" too. I am not that interested in DKF, BBBJ couch action so I do not search for it. Maybe other mongers have a different experience here.

[Angus Magee]

Thanks Angus,

That was very helpful- I will definetely feed back my experiences. One final questions is kissing included in the standard price at mon rouge or liberty (or is it extra)- also what does kissing with sympathy entail?


Hi,

At the higher bordellos (MR, Liberty, Royal) kissing is an extra. Usually 20 euros, I think. I am not sure as it is not an option I generally go for. I find that kissing (for me) has to be a mutually desired action. That is I find nothing worse than kissing a girl who really (and it is so easy to tell) does not particularly want to be kissing you except for the 20 euros you have just paid her. Crissy at MR was a great example of this for me. Nice girl, very hot, great fuck-one of the worst kissers I have ever experienced. Not worth 20 euros IMO.

The one exception to this is Kamilla Dee. There you do not pay for any extras because the girls do not offer bbbj at all. Anal is offered by some KD girls for 50 euros. But I have had some sessions at KD, when there is good chemistry with the girl, where kissing was enthusiastically included at no extra cost. But this is entirely YMMV and thus unpredictable. It just has to happen, or not.

Some of the cheaper bordellos will include it in the base price for a session-bei sympathie.

Bei Sympathie just means that it is up to the girl if kissing is included. In practical terms I have found that if the website says that kissing is included in the base price (e.g. La Passion) the girl will kiss-with varying degrees of skill & enthusiasm. I think that they include the "bei sympathie" to give the girl an out should you have a dripping cold sore on your lip or have obvious bad oral hygiene.

[Angus Magee]

....except for the time factor and also the mentioned budget (150?). Especially for someone new to the scene I would not recommend Artemis unless he has a fairly big block of time (4 hrs. minimum-better 6-8) and a higher budget. Dropping into a big FKK like Artemis one needs to really survey the scene and expect to take a bit of time finding the right girl. And with the 80 euro entrance fee I always feel it is best to go for as many sessions as your budget (and your mojo;-) will allow. For me this usually means a minimum of 260 euros-entry+ 1 hour session with a favorite + 1/2 session with a new girl. Then I will often "get stuck" looking for a final late night session, pushing the final bill to over 300. Artemis ain't cheap.

[Rocketboy0]

Rocketboy,

Thanks for the advice. I have thought of artemis but unfortunately I will not have time to take advantage of it. I'm over for only two days and have business commitments throughout the day and night. I'm just hoping to be able to slip away for a few hours.Up to you obviously. But I still think over say a 1. 5.2 hour period, with even as much as an hour for relaxing and recon-ning, your odds are far higher at Artemis. Angus is right if you have the cash & time, but both are not really necessary for a great time. I normally find 15 min of free chat, and 30 min of action is actually fine. Of course we'd all like more, but it is a world of compromise. If you factor in the odds of going to a private house, possibly not finding something to your liking, trudging over to another etc. (and we've all done that, if we're honest), Art's looks better I think. I've even had the experience as a kind of regular, that a booked appointment was cancelled upon arrival just because "something came up". It's happened at 3 of the best places. Shit just happens. Traffic, kids, alien abduction etc. Who knows.

Even for a quick trip, on a per session basis, Art's is an option. It's more a question of when. Mid evening say 2000-2300 you have a lot of options and the deal can be sealed quickly. When it's busier, that's less so. I am a fan of the apartments. But I just think the odds of success, on multiple levels, is greater in the Love Factory, if only because of the sheer number of choices. A bird in the hand, as it were.

Happy hunting.

[Renemaster]

i've been living in berlin for five years and i would recommend two places for people who love special activities.

no 1 place: "black & white massagen" at wisbyer strasse 3 in prenzlauer berg. this is the place for people who like nasty girls from poland and it is for me the place i visit most. cindy is a slim blonde but pregnant at the moment. the other one is amanda, a busty blonde. a couple of weeks ago, i spent one hour in the whirlpool with cindy and amanda. they gave me definitely the best lesbian show ever. the girls did a nice [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103) show for me.

last time they did a porn shooting and i was invited to join. i think this was offered to me, because i am regular customer.

there are three other girls available. mira, tina and sandra, a polish student. as much as i know, they all like it nasty. mira loves role-playing games.

no 2 place: "atelier marylin" in halensee.

like my no 1 place, there is no sign outside. they have more girls for special things but they are often not there. i went about four times there to see a beautiful polish girl called jasmin. she is about 30 years old and can offer all kind of activities. "black & white massagen" is definitely cleaner and cheaper. the friendliness of "black & white massagen" is unique. "atelier marylin" may be better equipped but it is too cool for my taste.

google for "atelier marylin" and "black & white massagen berlin"

[Timewaster]

Hi,

I am in berlin and could not find it.

I found the address 33 Blisestrasse st.

It was on the SE corner of Blissestrasse and Hildegardstrasse.

There was no buzzer with KMD. Just other businesses/people. Was I at the right location?

[Angus Magee]

Hi,

I am in berlin and could not find it.

I found the address 33 blisestrasse st.

It was on the SE corner of blissestrasse and Hildegardstrasse.

There was no buzzer with KMD. Just other businesses/people. Was I at the right location?


The buzzer for Kamila Dee says Text&Form.

You have to read the website very carefully to get this. Under the address on the info page it says:

To safeguard discretion our door looks like this:
Text&Form
(just among the usual housebells)

[Angus Magee]

Google for "Atelier Marylin" and "Black & White Massagen Berlin"

Thanks for the interesting report. Does Black & white have a website? I googled Black & White Massagen Berlin and came up empty.

[The AF]

Thanks for the interesting report. Does Black & white have a website? I googled Black & White Massagen Berlin and came up empty.

...all I could find is this:

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Club/Club-6742.html#

unfortunately, the link indeed leads to a "blank" site and I am also wondering why those girls offer only Massage-Services but according to their setcard no fucking, CIM or CIF, which I would think of if going nasty..!!

Cindy however looks very much porn-style, I admit..!!

I am not convinced yet, not as convinced as I am about Anastasia, whom I still have to visit.

Anyone got reports about Emma at http://club-sternchen.de/ ?
I know reports say this club is very sleazy but the girl (and also Betty) look marvellous...and hell, I love them in those stockings :p

Anyone tried Vivien at Liberty yet? She seems to be a Newbee who is overly nasty for a Liberty girl...promising I must say...

Cheers,
The AF

[Angus Magee]

...all I could find is this:

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Club/Club-6742.html#

unfortunately, the link indeed leads to a "blank" site and I am also wondering why those girls offer only Massage-Services but according to their setcard no fucking, CIM or CIF, which I would think of if going nasty..!!

Cindy however looks very much porn-style, I admit..!!

I am not convinced yet, not as convinced as I am about Anastasia, whom I still have to visit.

Anyone got reports about Emma at http://club-sternchen.de/ ?
I know reports say this club is very sleazy but the girl (and also Betty) look marvellous...and hell, I love them in those stockings :p

Anyone tried Vivien at Liberty yet? She seems to be a Newbee who is overly nasty for a Liberty girl...promising I must say...

Cheers,
The AF

Hi,

Sorry, no info on the Sternchen girls. I myself swore off that place after a couple of very bad sessions some time back. I find the girls are never as good as they look on the website and the service is subpar at this place.

Vivien-on my list and will certainly write a report if/when I get to see her.

I also happened to find this today while looking at Kijiji business ads.

http://berlin.kijiji.de/c-Kontaktanzeigen-Flirt-Abenteuer-Erotik-Erotische-Dienstleistungen-Schwangere-geile-Cindy-W0QQAdIdZ130768182

This must be the Cindy mentioned.

Edit:The link no longer works. Taken down quickly for some reason

[Joinem]

...all I could find is this:

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Club/Club-6742.html#

unfortunately, the link indeed leads to a "blank" site and I am also wondering why those girls offer only Massage-Services but according to their setcard no fucking, CIM or CIF, which I would think of if going nasty..!!

The AFTAF,

That site comes up here okay.

Try it again with a proxy if you still want to see it.

J

[Hektor T]

Could one of you resident Artemis experts please rate the level of "couch action" prevelant at Artemis? Is there "couch action" to speak of? Please describe the situation...for example: how common would public displays of dfk or bbbj be in the club? Just wondering...
I would have to say that there is generally not much couch action at Artemis. It does not seem to be a part of the "culture" there. [snip] There are girls there who are willing to take the time to hang out a bit on the couch and maybe do some kissing but you have to search them out. And it also depends how busy the club is and how much they want the business [snip] I am not that interested in DKF, BBBJ couch action so I do not search for it. Maybe other mongers have a different experience here.My experiences have been much different! I'm no Artemis expert, but I've been there quite a few times and every time, I saw live sex action in the upstairs kino and BBBJ in the downstairs kino. Maybe it depends on the client, but everytime i ask a girl to go in the kino she's trying to get my dick out within a minute. The downstairs kino is set up for that, they get you hot in the little sofas in front of the movie, then there are about 5 rooms right behind so you can take them back there to finish. But all of the "couch action" time is paid! So be careful! Nowadays in busy nights there is no "hanging out" on less she is in her recovery phase. when I was first in artemis in September I could talk to girls for 15min no problem, but this year (since january and the big slowdown) they are much more transaction oriented. They don't want to sit around and talk, nearly as much. They want action. So you can get couch action under conditions:

- You are a returning client and already met her, or she has seen you so she thinks talking will pay

- You get the action on the couche but the clock is running.

On a number of occassions i've seen guys cuddled up with girls alongside a bottle of chapagne (prosecco?) and finally i realized they are paying for that time along with the drink. If you just want to sit and talk, go to felix club, get a table buy champagne and the hot girls will come around (but felix is a discotheque so it's not the same thing)

As for the main room, i've never seen anything hot going on but at least half of the girls are up for anywhere in my opinion and one girl told me that sometimes when the rooms are all full she's seen people fucking on the stairs.

[Angus Magee]

My experiences have been much different! I'm no Artemis expert, but I've been there quite a few times and every time, I saw live sex action in the upstairs kino and BBBJ in the downstairs kino. Maybe it depends on the client, but everytime i ask a girl to go in the kino she's trying to get my dick out within a minute. The downstairs kino is set up for that, they get you hot in the little sofas in front of the movie, then there are about 5 rooms right behind so you can take them back there to finish. But all of the "couch action" time is paid! So be careful! Nowadays in busy nights there is no "hanging out" on less she is in her recovery phase. when I was first in artemis in September I could talk to girls for 15min no problem, but this year (since january and the big slowdown) they are much more transaction oriented. They don't want to sit around and talk, nearly as much. They want action. So you can get couch action under conditions:

- You are a returning client and already met her, or she has seen you so she thinks talking will pay

- You get the action on the couche but the clock is running.

On a number of occassions i've seen guys cuddled up with girls alongside a bottle of chapagne (prosecco?) and finally i realized they are paying for that time along with the drink. If you just want to sit and talk, go to felix club, get a table buy champagne and the hot girls will come around (but felix is a discotheque so it's not the same thing)

As for the main room, i've never seen anything hot going on but at least half of the girls are up for anywhere in my opinion and one girl told me that sometimes when the rooms are all full she's seen people fucking on the stairs.

I think we are talking about a different type of couch action here.

In the kino there is plenty of public sex to be seen. I have also seen on occasion public sex in the main bar- a FFM threesome that went on for the best part of an hour including lots of lesbian action.

The type of couch action I was referring to is when you start a session in the main bar, on the couch with DFK & BBBJ. It is really just a warm up/sales technique and once you get to the room the half hour paid session starts.

And as I mentioned, I have experienced this just once or twice. Mostly the girls in Artemis seem reluctant to offer a bit of a freebie in order to seal a session. And as I say, I don't try to hard for this. Both times it has happened to me it has just happened without my trying to make it happen.

[Hektor T]

I think we are talking about a different type of couch action here.

The type of couch action I was referring to is when you start a session in the main bar, on the couch with DFK & BBBJ. It is really just a warm up/sales technique and once you get to the room the half hour paid session starts.

And as I mentioned, I have experienced this just once or twice. Mostly the girls in Artemis seem reluctant to offer a bit of a freebie in order to seal a session. And as I say, I don't try to hard for this. Both times it has happened to me it has just happened without my trying to make it happen.I agree there are two different types of action. But just a word to the wise:

The etiquette may be different in Artemis than in a traditional bordello/club. In the traditional setup you start to pay once you're in the room. In Artemis, as soon as her mouth touches your dick the clock can start running, as I understand it. No matter if you are in the big room the kino or a private room. of course if she wants to not count time outside the room that could happen.

The first time I was there I thought couch action in the kino was marketing, but it was really closing the sale on a naive customer. The second time I got couch action in the public room was a pretty, tall blond polish girl with big oversized plastic tits and tatooed eyebrows that i had already got in the room and she spent the whole time screaming "fick me, fick me"!! so loud i thought the whole floor could hear it. So the next time I saw her she spent 15 minutes helping me decide to go with her again.

Sure you can get freebies, extras, or whatever and some girls will french kiss or do cim or ask for extraball without asking for money. But that is not the experience for most guys.

(click my name and look at my previous artemis posts for complete description of my experiences in paid couch action and free extras).

[Txl Muc]

The competition: Alice from Bitchclub (née Hautnah) vs Anastasia from Desire61 (née Timeout)


*** The rules

I had both girls as callouts, for one or two hours. So far, I had Alice a few times and Anastasia one time – this does not indicate preference, just the fact that I only learnt about the rebirth of Timeout and their callout service last week while I have been a regular with Hautnah for a while. Caveat: I like to have my callouts longtime’ish – which I believe is important for the experience you might have with Alice more that it is with Anastasia.


*** The contestants

*** Alice, 18 yr old Romanian, from Bitchclub, http://www.bitchclub-berlin.de.vu

* What’s true about her profile. I believe she really is 18. She behaves that way, appears to have a profile on a social networking site where she is listed as being 18, and she did hint at ‘being only 18’ when we talked.

* My take on her. She behaves like a 18 yr old and has the body of an 18 yr old. Long black (dyed) hair, great ass, small firm tits. A bit short, not a spinner, but just a bit chubby.


*** Anastasia, 20 yr old Russian, from Desire61, http://www.desire61.de

* What’s true about her profile (and what’s not). I don’t believe she is 20 – she might be 25. She appears to have a kid that lives with her relatives at home in Russia and appears to have worked in this job for a while.

* My take on her. While someone wrote about her being shy, she behaves and is less innocent than Alice. While she is sweet, she knows and occasionally directs positions, something I don’t think Alice would do. Short blond hair, ok ass, small tits. And again: A bit short, not a spinner, but just a bit chubby.


*** The contest

*** Alice. When I had Alice come over for the first time, she had been with Bitchclub for a few days only. That meant that she was genuinely open – she told me that my apartment was seriously cool (it is :-) ), that she did not like her new job, that she thought I was nice (I am :-) ), that she was homesick and missed Romania.


* The good - real gfe. In short – she was not a pro. She liked to cuddle, she twitched when I caressed her and she liked it, turned away when she did not like what I did. Alice has a true GFE thing going for her, with the genuine smiles, but also with moods. Oh, and terms of physical – she is positively cute when she smiles, she has a great ass, small and firm tits – a great body if you like that.

* The bad - she can be a starfish. She is not moody – she just takes time to warm up, relax. Once she does, she tells about herself, smiles, cuddles. She responds to the caressing, tries to reciprocate – but is a bit inept at it. She certainly is not very experimental. And she can be a bit lazy – she starts giving rather good bjs but then signals she is tiring; she does not like being on top and when teased into it soon is tired; preferred position seems to be lazy ones – even then, she can morph into a starfish.


*** Anastasia. Anastasia is a pro. She has been living in Germany for around 3 months I believe, but her German is not great – nor is her English – in fact, her English is worse than Alice’s. I guess she would get all the work related idioms (money, bj, doggie, …) but its hard to have just a limited conversation that helps her to loosen up.

* The good - she is a pro. She is into sex or at least into providing good service. She likes or pretends to like changing positions and certainly likes to demonstrate that she knows better what is good for me than I do. I somewhat like it when she does that and ‘directs’ me around, that’s a strong point for her – it’s just that she reverts back and gets concerned about what I like. I think next time I will need a Russian cheat sheet telling her she should just experiment and surprise me.

* The bad - not really a gfe. She is less cute that Alice and more of a pro. For me, sex is about play as much as it is about, well, sex. Alice is more of a challenge, more about play. And Alice has a better body. And yes - I know I contradict myself, simultaneously being interested about her and then objectifying her and her body. It’s a male thing ;-).


*** Bottom line. I guess it is a tie. The tie break for me will be when I will get either Alice to be less high maintenance or less of a starfish. Or when I get Anastasia to be experiment and surprise me. The odds are for Ana – as I write this, she plans to stay in Germany for another 9 months, while Alice has gone back to Romania.

[Will Smith69]

Hi dear friends,

I found sweety again.! She is again working in berlin and I will try to see her end of the month!

Her is a very good report on her in the forum (Thread #1135). She worked in la-passion as sweety and as yve. She is wonderfull.

I will report as soon as I know more.

Will

[Angus Magee]

Just noticed this new "all you can eat" club. 99 Euro opening special.

http://www.caligula-berlin.de/girls.html

This one is much more centrally located in Berlin Schöneberg, just steps away from Liberty on Martin-Luther-str.

These types of place are not really my scene but as it is so convenient for me I might just give it a try.

[Iseeu]

Just noticed this new "all you can eat" club. 99 Euro opening special.

http://www.caligula-berlin.de/girls.html

This one is much more centrally located in Berlin Schöneberg, just steps away from Liberty on Martin-Luther-str.

These types of place are not really my scene but as it is so convenient for me I might just give it a try.
Looks more like a hostess bar/ strip club/ table dance place with all included drinks than an all you can eat partytreff. No where does it say on the website what's on the menu (i.e. the type of service on offer) which is what you would expect from a PT web site.

From their pics, the separate areas look to be no more than booths off of the bar with a padded bench and curtained opening, much like you might find in the private dance areas of US strip clubs. Also, none of the women are pictured on beds, which is another almost omnipresent feature of PT web sites.

I wouldn't go with very high expectations of "eating" very much. Still if it turns out that this is indeed a PT in the middle of Berlin (another reason to be suspicious- PT's are invariably situated in out of the way industrial complexes and not prime center city real estate)....

[Angus Magee]

Looks more like a hostess bar/ strip club/ table dance place with all included drinks than an all you can eat partytreff. No where does it say on the website what's on the menu (i.e. the type of service on offer) which is what you would expect from a PT web site.

From their pics, the separate areas look to be no more than booths off of the bar with a padded bench and curtained opening, much like you might find in the private dance areas of US strip clubs. Also, none of the women are pictured on beds, which is another almost omnipresent feature of PT web sites.

I wouldn't go with very high expectations of "eating" very much. Still if it turns out that this is indeed a PT in the middle of Berlin (another reason to be suspicious- PT's are invariably situated in out of the way industrial complexes and not prime center city real estate)....

Some info I pulled from a report on one of the German forums.

The entrance fee is now 160. The 99 euro fee was an opening special which ran out on 31/06. The fee does include all drinks and some snacks and the services of the girls. But....there are extra charges for certain extras (FO, anal) and the girls expect you to buy them lady drinks. Which are not included in the entry fee:-((

The atmosphere is, according to the report, nice enough but the service from the ladies is perfunctory and has a "processed" feel. The reviewer also mentioned that the of the 8 ladies present only two were what he considered acceptable. Both were ex-pussyclub girls.

So it seems that downtown does have a partytref-of sorts. Though I would venture a guess that this is actually just a club that is trying to take advantage of the partytref name and not really in the spirit of partytref.

At 160 it is extremely doubtful (like not at all) that I myself would pay a visit. If I ever do visit a PT I would want it to be one with a very good rep for service.

[Angus Magee]

Hi dear friends,

I found sweety again.! She is again working in berlin and I will try to see her end of the month!

Her is a very good report on her in the forum (Thread #1135). She worked in la-passion as sweety and as yve. She is wonderfull.

I will report as soon as I know more.

Will

I will be very interested to read your report.

Do you have a link to a website? or other contact information?

[Will Smith69]

I will be very interested to read your report.

Do you have a link to a website? or other contact information?Hi,

I found her information in the freiclub website, but I also found her profile on site abote berlin escorts. I will report as soon as I met her, and I will deeliver the information.

I am in berlin tomorrow, any suggestion on hot to spend a Friday morning? I have some time off. I woudl love to get some advice or tip, how to spend the time between 9 and 12.

Best would be sométhing near fiedrichstrasse where I stay. Maybe some good tip abote a famous kino.

Any suggestion?

Thanks,

Will

[Angus Magee]

Hi,

I found her information in the freiclub website, but I also found her profile on site abote berlin escorts. I will report as soon as I met her, and I will deeliver the information.

I am in berlin tomorrow, any suggestion on hot to spend a Friday morning? I have some time off. I woudl love to get some advice or tip, how to spend the time between 9 and 12.

Best would be sométhing near fiedrichstrasse where I stay. Maybe some good tip abote a famous kino.

Any suggestion?

Thanks,

Will

I would suggest a visit to see Anastasia @ Desire Erotik.

http://www.desire61.de/anastasia.html

From where you are it would be a short UBahn trip & 10 min. walk. I think they open at 10:00 a.m..

See Iseeu's report below or my report a few pages back. Anastasia is a treat.

[Will Smith69]

Hi,

I am in Berlin and I would like to try some cinema expiriance. I have heard that this is interesting and fun. And I like to do something in a bit mor public enviroment.

Is there any suggetion. Please help! Thanks

Will

[Matt Al]

Hi,

Some help please? !

I'm off to berlin this week, staying in Berlin=Prenzlauer Berg and would like some fun.

Are there any recommended places (not too pricey). Oral and anal would be good too!

Many thanks in advance, any help gratefully appreciated!

Matt

[Angus Magee]

Hi,

I am in Berlin and I would like to try some cinema expiriance. I have heard that this is interesting and fun. And I like to do something in a bit mor public enviroment.

Is there any suggetion. Please help! Thanks

Will

Where you are staying there are no Kinos near. You would have to go further afield. Check my Berlin guide in the RoD thread for a few suggestions.

[Angus Magee]

Hi,

Some help please? !

I'm off to berlin this week, staying in Berlin=Prenzlauer Berg and would like some fun.

Are there any recommended places (not too pricey). Oral and anal would be good too!

Many thanks in advance, any help gratefully appreciated!

Matt

Tell me Matt-why should I help? I checked your posting history and you have posted more or less the same request 4 times over the past 1/2 year or so.

Not one report.

If you want to get help from the forum try giving a little back from time to time.

[Timewaster]

to tackle all the brothels in berlin, i chose a whole bunch that have been mentioned in isg and grouped them by location. took a while to sort thru all of them in google maps to find the nearest ubhan/sbhan. so this should help a lot of newbies to berlin. here is a summary of of my experience:

group1: mona kant74, mon rouge

monakant:

this was my first brothel i was hitting and turned out to be a bit difficult to find. the address is kantstr 74, but the entrance is actually at the intersection of another street (see googlemaps) and is called "clubmona". entrance is embarrassing as there is a big sign and it is obvious you are going to a brothel. no english was spoken by mamasan or girls. went in and saw 2 girls. one was thai. neither were doable, so i left.

monrouge:

took ubahn 1 stop to adenauplatz to monrouge. linda answered the door and spoke very good english. was also shown mia, who was very tall. neither were my type so i left.

group2: europasalon, liberty

europasalon:

brothel is in a residential building and very discreet. the girl who answered the door was not bad – blonde, 20ish with smallish breasts. i think it was either polina or ada. was also shown another girl – a milf. neither spoke english, and had some commincation problems. decided to leave. probably could’ve done the blonde girl by using hand signals and writing on a piece of paper, but i wanted to check out what else was available in the other places.

liberty:

greeted by a mamasan who spoke english. the first time i came here, i must’ve gotten lucky. i must’ve saw about 10 girls and was having trouble remembering all their names. about 3 were pretty hot. the best was a blonde called vivien with natural breasts. i decided i wanted to check out a few other brothels before coming back to pick her, but due to circumstances, never made it back. also, i asked about jenny (the teeny girls) and was told she no longer works there?

the 2nd time i came back. i was given a lineup of about 5-6 girls. mamasan did not speak english, one of the other girls who speak english came back in to talk to me so i asked for vivian and was told she would be busy till closing time (there was 1 hour left to closing), so i chose romy.

romy was absolutely gorgeous. she looks very young – 18ish and was extremely cute. she has black hair and dyed some of it grayish. she had a bit of a pouch on her stomach. her breasts are pretty big (c-cup i think) and real. the pics make them look saggy, but they are firmer than her pics.

paid 60 euros for 30 mins and also added 20 for kissing.

did the usual – cbj, mish, doggie, etc.

lots of dfk. she smokes though, so has cigarette smell during dfk.

she was very enthusiastic in the beginning. she is very gorgeous, i wanted it to last and held out. she became somewhat frustrated and towards the end, just kind of laid there like a dead fish. i finally finished in mish looking at her cute face.

conclusion:
face: 8-9
body: 7
perfomance: 7 – started out very good, but deteriorated towards the end.
english: none
photos are accurate. you cannot see her face in the pics, but she is gorgeous and young.

afterwards, i asked about vivian and to see if i can make an appointment with her. was told she was not working the next day. then asked about monday. finally was told she does not want to see me. l

group3: salonprestige, vankamp, royal, kamilladee

this group was my favorite since you can the the circle line (s41/s42) and just go west-east or the reverse, so is very easy to visit in sucession.

salonprestige:

this place actually has 2 entrances. the front entrance is very obvious since it has a big "salon" sign and only 1 buzzer. i rang it a few times and there was no answer. finally, some guy across the street yelled at me to go to the back. (pretty embarrassing). i went to to back and finally got buzzed in. i don’t know why then won’t answer the front buzzer. was shown 3 girls – annielu, luna, and 1 other girl. annielu looked thai to me. mamasan spoke a little english. tried to convince me to take annielu, but i declined and left.

vankamp:

very easy to find and very close to the ubhan/sbhan stop. went there and was shown 4 girls. mamasan did not speak english. the girls were mostly 5-6s. i’m pretty sure there were a lot more girls as i saw and heard a whole bunch of them hiding behind a door. when i came in. so i decided to leave. one thing i didn’t like was that the room was very dark.

royal:

very easy to find and very close to the ubhan/sbhan stop. entrance is next to a restaurant, so it is a bit embarrassing. i really wanted to meet [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901). mamasan spoke good english. first time i went i was shown only 1 girl and told they are very busy. i asked about [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), but was told she already left for the day. she told me to try to make an appointment next time.

came back a few days later (after my trip to prague). was told [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) was not working that day. shown about 4-5 girls. i chose nadin. since i wanted to do a blonde really bad after loosing out on the blonde in prague, she was a good consolation prize and she looked pretty good. too. this 2nd mamasan did not speak english, so another wg there had to translate since nadin speaks very little english. went for the 30 mins/80 euro and added 20 euro for dfk.

nadin is a pretty cute blonde. looks like early 20’s. she is one of the newer girls i think since she showed up in the website just recently. she had a bit of a stomach, but had natural b-cups and very nice butt.

did all the usual positions – cbj, cowgirl, mish.

she was quite loose especially during mish. it felt like i was fucking air, which was causing me to loose my erection. i asked her if i could cim with condom on, but she didn’t understand me so switched to doggie to get it going again and finally finished in mish. when were were done, she asked me to give her a massage the last 10 minutes, which i did. she lied on her back, so i was rubbing my uncovered penis against her back and ass j. 2 things i didn’t like about her 1. was only allowed to kiss her a few times, so i felt ripped off. 2. was able to touch her pussy, but was not allow to insert.

conclusion:
face: 7.5
body: 6
perfomance: 6.5
english: very little
photos are very accurate, except she has a bit of a belly.

i would repeat with her, but definitely, leave out the kissing.

kamilladee:

first time i went here, i could not find the buzzer. turns out the buzzer is labeled "text & forms" for discretion. door is located next to a imbiss (snack) shop, so it is a bit embarrassing. went in and was greeted by a mamasan who speaks very good english. she was also very nice and told me that i am not obligated and can come back anytime if i don’t like any of the girls. i saw about 4 girls. they were mostly 6’s with maybe one 7. so i left. since it was my last day in berlin, i never got a chance to come back, but i would definitely come back to this place the next time i am in berlin.

in conclusion, liberty, kd, royal are the ones i would definitely hit the next time i come back to berlin.

question: anyone exeperience nadin (royal) or romy (liberty)?

i would like to see what other people's experiences are like with them.

the search function doesn’t seem to work very well.

anyone been able to successfully see vivien (liberty)?

also, why do these brothels close so eary (8 pm) on saturday. fri/sat nights are peak hours for mongering here in the us, so i find it surprising to close so early.

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Angus Magee]

Hi,

I am in Berlin and I would like to try some cinema expiriance. I have heard that this is interesting and fun. And I like to do something in a bit mor public enviroment.

Is there any suggetion. Please help! Thanks

Will

Hi,

This just appeared on the Rotlichtadressen website.

http://www.kino-friesen3.de/girls.html


I don't know anything about the place except what you can see on the website. It is in Kreuzberg and is not far off the trail. Probably about as far, and in the same area, as Desire Erotik, that I suggested earlier.

To my eye the girls look, what you can see of them, better than the average Kino girl. And it is in a very hip & trendy part of Kreuzberg, close to Bergmanstr.. I have, what is perhaps a fantasy, the idea that some hip trendy young hotties may be working there.

Anyway if you are into it check it out. And a report of this place would be a very welcome addition to the Berlin thread.

[Angus Magee]

hi tw,

thanks for the report. i'll post to the rod thread.


question: anyone exeperience nadin (royal) or romy (liberty)?

i would like to see what other people's experiences are like with them.

never seen nadin.

i am not 100% sure but romy i think used to be anna, also at liberty. i myself have a report on her.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=863957&postcount=1450

as i say, not 100% but the pictures are almost exactly the same as is the written description. actually the written description is word for word. one day anna disappeared from the site, the next day romy appeared. and i had a great time with her as anna but have not been able to repeat for some reason. she never seems to be working when i have the time & cash.


the search function doesn’t seem to work very well.

never been really able to figure it out myself either. near as i can tell all it does is to tell you that somewhere in the thread is a report on the name you search for. or at least the name appears. you still have to go back page by page and look for the name hi-lighted in red.


anyone been able to successfully see vivien (liberty)?

never seen her but i am certainly interested.


also, why do these brothels close so eary (8 pm) on saturday. fri/sat nights are peak hours for mongering here in the us, so i find it surprising to close so early.

i am not really sure. there are different types of brothels. the ones you mostly went to (kd, royal, liberty, vk, sp) are the better addresses in berlin. they are in, or close to residential areas and thus do not really want to attract a louder, rowdier crowd perhaps.

there are places to go to later in the evening (e.g. monas is open very late) and also mr is open until 2:00 a.m.. in the end i guess that they get the business they want in those hours.

as for [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), she is not so easy to see if you are just visiting. she does not work often and only on holidays, sometimes sunday. unlike many of the girls who tell you they are a student, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) really is in school and it takes up much of her time. the last time i saw her she told me that she had not worked in a month. i often find true part timers to be the best gfes

[Toscana]

To tackle all the brothels in Berlin, I chose a whole bunch that have been mentioned in ISG and grouped them by location.Good method! And to reward us a fine, very useful report. Thanks for that.

[Hektor T]

hi,

some help please? !

i'm off to berlin this week, staying in berlin=prenzlauer berg and would like some fun.

are there any recommended places (not too pricey). oral and anal would be good too!

many thanks in advance, any help gratefully appreciated!

matthi,

that area doesn't seem to have nearly as much to offer as the west. but walking around and exploring could pay off. there has to be a good "secret" place in such a large area. you can try this link

http://www.preussensex.de/berlin-sex/bordelle-berlin/bordelle-prenzlauer-berg.html

i've seen that club liaison walking by it, and the building looks nice from the outside, but the website looks scary!

one day recently i was walking down the schonhauser allee late at night around 3am and saw a place with three giant red hearts lit up in neon lights on the building facade so i went in and the women said 'it's full, come back in 30minutes!' i asked her if it was a thai place because the only similar thing i'd seen around was called the thai strip bar or something like that, but she said it is "latinas" for 50€ - 30min. i didn't go back so i didn't see any of them. anyway, if you go to s-bahn senefelderplatz (not far from alexanderplatz) and walk up schonhauser alle (away from alexanderplatz) for about 5 minutes, you'll see it on the right, just after a walled in park.

there's also a place on steinstrasse near the corner of gormanstr (very near rosenthalerplatz). it is called something like "alte" something or other, and there is a closed gate at the entrance, so you have to ring a bell. it's 10eur to go in and you get a drink and there are some strippers in there. it's really small and there are about 4 of them. but you can take them in the room for 120eur for 30min. it is really a sort of informal thing. they might try to tell you that you need to pay more to go in or buy a bottle plus pay the girl if you want to go in a room, but that willonly be if it is really full and they are trying to discourage you from going in. in fact it is 10€ to go in and that includes a drink and you don't need to buy a bottle to take a girl. i was there 2x and there were germans 5/10 - 8/10 and an ultra bitchy polish who was 7/10

otherwise there was a good report from renemaster recently


i've been living in berlin for five years and i would recommend two places for people who love special activities.

no 1 place: "black & white massagen" at wisbyer strasse 3 in prenzlauer berg. this is the place for people who like nasty girls from poland and it is for me the place i visit most. cindy is a slim blonde but pregnant at the moment. the other one is amanda, a busty blonde. a couple of weeks ago, i spent one hour in the whirlpool with cindy and amanda. they gave me definitely the best lesbian show ever. the girls did a nice [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103) show for me.

last time they did a porn shooting and i was invited to join. i think this was offered to me, because i am regular customer.

there are three other girls available. mira, tina and sandra, a polish student. as much as i know, they all like it nasty. mira loves role-playing games.

no 2 place: "atelier marylin" in halensee.

like my no 1 place, there is no sign outside. they have more girls for special things but they are often not there. i went about four times there to see a beautiful polish girl called jasmin. she is about 30 years old and can offer all kind of activities. "black & white massagen" is definitely cleaner and cheaper. the friendliness of "black & white massagen" is unique. "atelier marylin" may be better equipped but it is too cool for my taste.

google for "atelier marylin" and "black & white massagen berlin"

please let us know if you try any of these places!

[Vompat]

There ones was very good, detailed post on above topic, cant find it after couple of hours RTTF, anyone can help me to find it?

Never been to Berlin and looks like I am going in the beginning of August. Is there laufhauses like in Frankfurt? Actually I am fan of FKKs but Artemis does not seem to get the best reports.

Thnx in advance

[Rocketboy0]

There ones was very good, detailed post on above topic, cant find it after couple of hours RTTF, anyone can help me to find it?

Never been to Berlin and looks like I am going in the beginning of August. Is there laufhauses like in Frankfurt? Actually I am fan of FKKs but Artemis does not seem to get the best reports.Berlin has small laufhaus scene, but unless you're drawn to the skank-price aspects, why would you bother? Anyway, that aspect of Frankfurt I find just dreadful. Plus Berlin private houses are great. Look thru this thread.

Re FKKs. Don't know where you're reading what (see Angus' epic sagas on Artemis in FKK Berlin section), but Artemis has a lot of fans.comparing apples with apples, I would say Artemis is as great as e. G. The Palace. Palace has better food, slightly more international, friendly vibe, but there are 3-4 members of Team Artemis who just rock at least my world. Overall, it has smaller shark population, and a small terrace for outdoor grills. I prefer both city locales for staff quality and sheer logistical practicality vs. The more beautiful outdoor grounds of say Oase or World. But it's really a taste thing, it depends a lot on the day/night. Difficult to predict August. A lot of Berlin on holidays, but a lot of tourists as well. I'm sure Artemis on WED-SAT will keep you smiling.

[Angus Magee]

There ones was very good, detailed post on above topic, cant find it after couple of hours RTTF, anyone can help me to find it?

Never been to Berlin and looks like I am going in the beginning of August. Is there laufhauses like in Frankfurt? Actually I am fan of FKKs but Artemis does not seem to get the best reports.

Thnx in advance

Sorry, can't help find that particular thread. But I can say that Berlin really has nothing like the Frankfurt Laufhauses. There is one that is sort of modeled on a Laufhaus.

http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/modelle.html

That is when you go, instead of the usual room where the girls are brought for you to see, you walk up the stairs and the girls are waiting in the rooms. But it is very small compared to the Frankfurt houses. Four floors with two rooms on each floor. So a total of maybe 8 ladies at any given time. Sometimes less.

As for Artemis-I myself have nothing really to compare it to as it is really the only FKK I have frequented. My feeling though is that the quality is there (if you look) but that it is also quite a bit more expensive than many FKK. An evening at Artemis is not cheap.

[I Like Birds]

EuropaSalon:

Brothel is in a residential building and very discreet. The girl who answered the door was not bad – blonde, 20ish with smallish breasts. I think it was either Polina or Ada.

Most likely Polina, because according to their website Ada is frequently absent.

Polina is a very nice girl. I had a couple of intimate sessions with her several months back, but I bet this was because we speak the same language [which is not German; plus chemistry to a sufficient degree]. I was thinking several times whether I should recommend her, but never got to a definite conclusion (this posting included), because she is rather a "closed in herself" kind of person and one should not expect a passionate GFE upfornt, I would say (or any GFE, for that matter).

God knows. Maybe I'm also wrong about her. For me personally she still remains a "dusky gem", if I can express it this way.

[Ozzy Ozzman]

There ones was very good, detailed post on above topic, cant find it after couple of hours RTTF, anyone can help me to find it?

Never been to Berlin and looks like I am going in the beginning of August. Is there laufhauses like in Frankfurt? Actually I am fan of FKKs but Artemis does not seem to get the best reports.

Thnx in advanceVompat,

A while back I wrote a short comparison between Artemis and Palace, see link below.

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Since then I've had several trips to Frankfurt and one to Berlin, when I've spent my time at said places. I still think that what I wrote holds true. So, if you've visited Palace and liked it, you'll feel right at home at Artemis. It seems to me you are misinterpreting the reports on the place. Yes, I had a terrible time there on my last Berlin trip when visiting during the late evenings and nights. This was down to bad luck, however (an extraordinary influx of guys thanks to a major sporting event in town). When there's a normal attendance the place is great.

Put simply: If you're a fan of FKKs, Artemis is a must see and do. It's one of the biggest FKKs in the world, for god's sake!

I don't have much experience with other places in Frankfurt and Berlin than Palace and Artemis respectively, as I prefer FKKs almost exclusively to other venues. (In Frankfurt my # 1 ATF keeps me coming back to Palace all the time instead of checking out Oase or World, and I daresay Artemis is your only viable FKK option in Berlin.) For more info on the rest of the scene in Berlin, check out Angus' numerous and excellent postings. He even has a comprehensive "Berlin Guide" which you should be able to find by searching this thread.

Hope this is of some help.

Ozzy

[Vompat]

Thanks a lot for your answers.

Why you said wed -sat Artemis would rock my world? Is it very quiet on Sundays? In some other clubs (now I am thinking especially Samya in Köln) the girls are way too busy on Fridays and Saturdays. That is why I was going to come Sat - Mon.

Maybe I try the Pussyclub as well, my report will follow.

[Angus Magee]

Thanks a lot for your answers.

Why you said wed -sat Artemis would rock my world? Is it very quiet on Sundays? In some other clubs (now I am thinking especially Samya in Köln) the girls are way too busy on Fridays and Saturdays. That is why I was going to come Sat - Mon.

Maybe I try the Pussyclub as well, my report will follow.

You never can really know what it will be like until you go. I have been on nights that were very busy (many men) but none were buying. So the girls were looking for business.

But in general the obvious less busy times do make it easier to chat up a girl before heading to a room. And if you want a bit of chat up time it is best to avoid the real hotties, especially those that really seem to know it.

[Rainmadra]

Just an observation. Berlin is my ususual city for fun. And it remains my favourite city. However, one pleasant thing I noticed of my visit to Dusseldorf and its SP’s services was that all of them provided wonderful BBBJ including ball licking and licking between the balls and asshole. One even had a token lick of the hole which was greatly appreciated. There was never a need to ask and all seemed to enjoy it, at least it didn’t seem to bother them to much, just a part of normal service. Of course, I have received this service in Berlin but in the minority of cases. And it would involve paying extra in some cases. Maybe I just got lucky with my choices.

Any thoughts on the subject?

[HowVeryDareYou]

Hi all,

First pst- guess what a request for help-thats original!

I'm off to Berlin on Monday for 3 days and want some fun on a limited budget.

I am staying in the hilton (mitte district) and am interestested in som public type fun I have read about the pussyclub which sounds good but am taken with the sexkino idea. Watch porn get sucked off whilst others watch the watch others and repeat. Anyone got ANY reccomendations for a newbie?

Many many thanks in advance

P.

[HowVeryDareYou]

Hi all great forum.

Off to Berlin on Monday bfor a week staying at the hilto (mitte? )

Am interested in the partytreff and sexkino scene

Have read up on pussy club but wonder if anyone has some advice on any good sex kino places as near as poss

Thanks in advance

Pete

[Member #4285]

I could not understand why there were so little cheep good hotels left to book the 16-19 sep when I searched the web. After a little research I saw that its the Berlin Marathon 19-20 sep =)

Unfortunately (or not?) im leaving to Düsseldorf morning the 19th.

Maybe the action will be good this week?

[Angus Magee]

Just an observation. Berlin is my ususual city for fun. And it remains my favourite city. However, one pleasant thing I noticed of my visit to Dusseldorf and its SP’s services was that all of them provided wonderful BBBJ including ball licking and licking between the balls and asshole. One even had a token lick of the hole which was greatly appreciated. There was never a need to ask and all seemed to enjoy it, at least it didn’t seem to bother them to much, just a part of normal service. Of course, I have received this service in Berlin but in the minority of cases. And it would involve paying extra in some cases. Maybe I just got lucky with my choices.

Any thoughts on the subject?


I'd say that you are pretty lucky with your choices. IME not many ladies (paid or otherwise) really get that enthusiastic about proper BLS. And the further towards the "hole" you get the less enthusiastic. But then who can rally blame them. There is a whole world of dif between a young honie's bung hole and ol' Angus' hairy hole.

I find that that such a service takes a degree of familiarity. In my last session with one of my Artemis faves she did linger down there and had a lick. Fuckin' heaven. But this was not our first session and Angus' tongue is quite pleasing to her and I guess that she is just returning the favor.

[Rainmadra]

"There is a whole world of dif between a young honie's bung hole and ol' Angus' hairy hole. "

Yeah Angus, the same can be said for mine. I was just pleasently surprised though. Thought it might be a Dusseldorf tradition or something. Which if it is, God bless the good burghers of the city for that. Still, can't wait to get back to Berlin and the girls of Liberty, Kamilla dee and Artemis.

[Basketcase]

"There is a whole world of dif between a young honie's bung hole and ol' Angus' hairy hole. "

Yeah Angus, the same can be said for mine. I was just pleasently surprised though. Thought it might be a Dusseldorf tradition or something. Which if it is, God bless the good burghers of the city for that. Still, can't wait to get back to Berlin and the girls of Liberty, Kamilla dee and Artemis.

Hi Angus Magee and Rainmadra,

Whenever I find a pretty girl whether she be a young leggy blond or a cute brunette that will lick and probe my hairy hole with her tongue and lips then that is an instant upgrade from a half hour session to a one hour session.

You do find a few girls in the FKKs in NRW like GT and in Oase and World. I know some girls do it in Artemis in Berlin but I guess you must really need to connect with the girl first, or have gotten to know the girl well or pay her a premium to do it. Some girls charge extra but my gems are the ones that do it and the rimming service on me is included in the standard €50 per half a hour session. Having a clean arse hole helps too!!!

Angus, I keep thinking about it but never do it - but I need to get back to Berlin to see more of the city. I never got to Potsdam as the weather was crap with rain when I went last August so I spent my 5 days pretty much tucked up in Artemis. I suppose I do nto go since I have such good options in the NRW region and Hessen region as opposed to Brandenburg/Berlin.

[Rainmadra]

I have been meaning to post this report from my last two visits to the great city of Berlin, but as you all know things like work etc get in the way. Anyway here it is. These are all establishments that are well known to the forum I think.

I’ll start of with those I think are the most common and work my way down. First up, a lot of people’s favourite Kamilla dee. Laura.

This is easy to find once you take note that you are looking for Text & Form to be buzzed in. It’s to the left of the café or imbiss or whatever it is. On the first visit I had arranged to see Laura for a half hour session. So after I was buzzed in, a really cute receptionist dressed casually in jeans and hoody welcomed me in She spoke english and told me Laura would be with me soon. I have to say Laura was even better looking in the flesh and was friendly. Fake tits but nice. Anyway, it was €80 for the half hour, which is a little higher than the Berlin, average but I guess you are paying for the quality of the looks at least.

How would I regard the session with Laura? Good but not great. I think that after you get past the first 5 to 10 mins of excitement by being with such a gorgeous creature you start to analyse the quality of the service.

So once she was stripped on the bed I went straight for pussy and asshole. There didn’t seem to be any of DFK on offer so I wasn’t going to hang around up there too long. Great face and all, but a quick suck of the tits and I’m off down to the holiest of holies. Shaved pussy, smooth. Not a big fan. I prefer a bit of something down there but it all tasted great. She moaned but I sensed she was overdoing it. I was down there for a while and she brought me up saying it was my turn. Cbj followed by some mish. She began to clock watch I found and said I had better come soon. I wasn’t gonna cum like that. So 69 works for me so she finished me off like that. Just in time too. Would I repeat? No. Beautiful girl sure, but you know you can get better service in this town so why would you?

The next time I was KD I chose Fiona.

Fiona is a very sexy older Spanish lady. She speaks English and is less of a clock-watcher. Again no DFK but more sensuous with lots of kissing of the body. There are times I’m in the mood for an older lady and this was one. She’s 40 not a lot older than me but very sexy. In addition, she dresses up in lots of lingerie, which I love. Again €80 for the half hour. Good session. CBJ, 69, face sitting, rimming her and then finished with doggy. Nice chatty lady. Would I repeat? Yes. But in the hope of getting some DFK and BBBJ.

Liberty. Charlyne

This was the first time I was here and really liked it. I knew from Angus’s reports that he rates it and I’d have to say I was impressed. It wasn’t hard to find from directions on website. Buzzed in, I climbed the stairs to be greeted by an open door with the less than attractive housemutti I guess you’d call her. Pleasant lady though. She brought me to reception room, sat me down asked me what I wanted to drink and told me girls would be in shortly. There’s a really nice relaxed vibe about this place. I just felt very at home sipping my coke waiting for the show to begin. In a few moments I was shown five girls. All doable except one. Young skinny bored type. I chose Charlyne because of her legs, and smile. A very nice girl. She had no English so my basic German got us by. It was €60 for half hour. Only slight kissing. I didn’t feel she was into it so I left it at that and headed south as usual. Lovely receptive to DATY and I got her to sit on my face. She loved me rimming her and would grind her asshole into my face. Classy. Finished with doggy. You notice her very boney ribs though when you banging her from behind. Definitely repeat with her and definitely repeat at liberty next time I’m back.

Freudenhause hase. Ushi

Decided to do a bit of slumming. So off to this place. Wasn’t too impressed with what was on offer. But got too the top floor and was exhausted from the stairs and it was pissing rain so I said to Ushi can I come in for a cup of tea for a half hour until the rain stops. She put the kettle on. Not really but I gave her €45 for half hour I think. Ushi isn’t the best looking but a good laugh. Relaxed and chatty. Ok session. Mish, doggy, Cbj and even a bit of kissing which I wasn’t really into at the time but there you go. Finished quick enough and then we just had a post coital cig and talked a bit about music. She speaks English by the way. Would I go back? Probably not. OK for a quickie for the prices but the selection wasn’t great.

Bei Gera. Roxy

This is a Thai house, easy to find from Boddinstr you bahn stop. It’s on bottom floor if I remember, there’s a big red heart on the door. OK inside, clean usual red lighting. I got there around ten at night. Three girls available. Not a great selection but I chose Roxy as she had a dirty quality about her. €50 for half hour. Roxy does not speak much English but we managed to get by with my German. She’s lively enough. Likes 69. Started off with some BBBJ then cbj. A few positions and came after about 15mins. I licked her asshole but it didn’t taste very clean so concentrated on DATY. Normal enough session, nothing spectacular. Fine for the price. Would check out the talent again if in the area.

Gina’s tango Rosa. Nancy

I had been meaning to visit this place for a long time. It’s easy enough to find from website directions. I was welcomed by Gina a friendly lady who showed me to a room. She got me a drink and I waited for the girls to be sent in. Reception area was busy with girls going in and out of the kitchen and office. Very relaxed atmosphere. I was in a cool room with a medieval theme getting my sword ready. Then the girls arrived. An African girl with big ass and tits, not friendly. Goodbye. An Italian with glasses great smile, I thought maybe. A really cute blond, grumpy. Maybe not. A friendly brunette small tits, no I like bigger tits and finally another brunette Italian looking great smile and she had waved from the kitchen when I arrived so I thought Bingo! Until she turned round and showed saggy ass with lots of cellulite and kind of threw me. Gina came in immediately and I was kind of stuck so I chose the German blond Nancy. I had come with the intention of having an hour session. €86 I think is a good deal. Now when I saw Nancy I thought she was beautiful but grumpy. Not a good sign. However, here we were so I said fuck it. One hour please.

Anyway, my instincts were right she was indeed a very cold fish. Not into it at all. Very mechanical.

In addition, not very chatty. I began to loose interest. I had a hard nights clubbing the night before and I thought fuck it finish up and go. Then I thought, might as well get a massage out of the rest of it. This wasn’t doing much for me either. She hadn’t great skills. However we started talking (she doesn’t speak English) in my basic German. I started joking around and gradually she lightened up. I started to kiss her breasts, lips, and pussy and soon all was well again in Tango Rosa! Her pussy tasted like honey. She was more receptive and it turned out to be a good session. With me finishing doggy style. Don’t give up on the cold fishes guys! Sometimes they just need warming up.

Bei Thomsen. Nina

I just happened to be passing this one on a Saturday evening and decided to go in for a quick one. Nice enough place. Small, peaceful. An older lady welcomed me and sent me to room. Only two girls Anita and Nina. I chose Nina. She speaks English. €50 half hour. Very good BBBJ. DFK for a while and then onto 69. We did a few positions until I came. We then just lay there until the end kissing. A better session than I thought. Not a stunning girl by any means but a good GFE for the price. I would definitely call in again to see the rest of the talent if I was in the area.

Salon Papillion. Moni

I like to try an older type of lady now and again as long as the pictures looked good. So I found Moni from Salon Papillion. This is on the U6 scharnweberstr. Check out the website for directions. Ring the buzzer under the name Caro. Nice enough place. Quality really not up to much however. Moni the best of the lot. Very enthusiastic lady. All about quality of service which has to be commended. €60 half hour including BBBJ, cim, dfk and all the usual. Moni’s a very nice lady and if you’re ever in the mood for a bit of an older model she’ll give you a good run for your money. She doesn’t speak any English though. It has to be said; as soon as I walked out, I really felt the urge to visit a 19 year old! Spice of life eh?

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[Bobo.fr]

...<Laura of KD> ....
So 69 works for me ....

Should I understand that her clit is not "closed" by a "piercing" any more ?

[Nick Depalma]

Will be in Berlin in September.

Any Local Hobbyist want to meet up, as going solo without knowing German will be difficult.

What's the Top 3 for a newbie to Berlin? Kamilla Dee, Liberty and Artemis?

Thanks!

[R The Man]

Will be in Berlin in September.

Any Local Hobbyist want to meet up, as going solo without knowing German will be difficult.

What's the Top 3 for a newbie to Berlin? Kamilla Dee, Liberty and Artemis?

Thanks!I'll be in Berlin next week. I am a unilingual anglophone, don't speak any German, but I haven't had any problems hobbying at the FKKs or brothels. So, getting together with locals is fun, but not necessary!

R.

[Fefix Berlin]

Berlin is very cool. I habe checked the bordellguide.

www.berlinintim.de

Escorts, brothels and clubs

[Europunter]

Very interesting report, RainMadra - a few words on some of the information regarding K-D. Your description of the "madam" in jeans and a hoody sweatshirt reminds me that I wish she were on offer -- don't know her name but she's very cute.

It's been my experience at K-D that CBJ is the norm here. Also, 30 minute appointments = 1 pop. 60 minutes = 2 pops.

Looks as though there is some new talent at K-D - lots of new girls - any reviews forthcoming?

[Vompat]

One more question to finalize my Berlin trip for the beginning of August, planning to do Artemis, Pussyclub and maybe 1 or to of the bordels. We would you suggest to stay? Economy 3 stars would be fine.

[Rufus T Firefly]

We would you suggest to stay? Economy 3 stars would be fine.

I'm sure people will give you their favorites. I generally like to travel with a very loose schedule and often arrive in a town with no hotel reservation. This works out great especially since almost every German town larger than a village has a tourist office that can book rooms for you on the spot.

In Berlin, the tourist office is known as the "Berlin Infostore". There are at least 5 of them around the city, the easiest to find is probably the one in the main train station (Hauptbahnhof) on the main/ground floor. You can tell them your price range (mine is "billig" - cheap) and what part of town you'd like to stay in (mine is..."Billig"). They give you hotel recommendations and you can ask them to book the room for you. The tourist office folks will also tell you how to get to the hotel, whether it's by public transportation (my choice) or driving.

A disadvantage is that not all hotels participate in this booking service. For example, I would like to stay at Hotel-Pension Funk which was once the home of Asta Nielsen, a Danish filmstar in the silent film period, but they aren't in the booking system. Unfortunately, when I have arrived in town they've also been fully booked.

You can contact the Berlin Infostores (aka Berlin Tourismus Marketing) by email to inquire about hotels. Based on personal experience, it can take them a couple of days to get back to you. They don't acknowledge your note upon receipt but send a reply when they find an answer.

www.berlin-tourist-information.de

Also, I recommend paging through a good guide to Germany or Berlin. I got some good ideas on places to stay and things to see in the Lonely Planet guide to Germany.

I hope this helps.

Rufus

[Rufus T Firefly]

I'm sure people will give you their favorites. I generally like to travel with a very loose schedule and often arrive in a town with no hotel reservation. This works out great especially since almost every German town larger than a village has a tourist office that can book rooms for you on the spot...

I forgot to add a caveat on arriving in a town without a reservation. It rarely happens but once I arrived in a town to find my favorite pension (yes, "billig") was fully booked as was almost every reasonably priced hotel because of a convention. In many cases, you can anticipate this. Frankfurt is infamous for scarcity of rooms and outrageous rates during the September auto show and the October book trade fair. I stay in pleasant pensions in nearby towns if I need to be in Frankfurt during these events.

I'd check the Berlin tourism web site to see if there are any major events during your time there which might affect availability of hotel rooms.

Rufus

[Vompat]

I am coming by plane so I know excactly when I come so I will not leave until last minute. I am concidering staying next to artemis, there are 2 hotels. That is becouse I am travelling with a "FKK Virgin", if he doesn't like (why wouldn't he? ) he can drink beer in the hotel and I can join him every now and then. That is if they allow to return to Artemis withouth paying again.

[R The Man]

Thanks to all fellow ISG punters for another great time. After reading the reports I headed to Liberty while I was visiting Berlin. Turned out to be only 3 blocks from my hotel and easy to find on Martin Luther Strasse 14, rang up to 2nd floor, door clearly signed. Met by mamasan (large and middle-aged as per previous descriptions) and sat in the nicely appointed waiting room for the intros.

5 ladies were presented, and all were at least 7 on my luscious scale (6 being worth doing). It was a difficult choice, but I settled on Fiona, a slim 24-year old with dark, shoulder length hair and a really nice smile (an 8 for me, with a fresh girl next door look). She spoke good English (the first good sign) and took me to the room, which was very impressive – large, clean, nice furniture – a very pleasant ambience for sex. I only had time for a 30 minute session, and she asked whether I was interested in extras. I mentioned that I liked kissing and she said, yes, and also oral natural, which was also a yes from her. Another good sign! 20 euros for each extra, for a total of 100 euros.

She was a very good choice and I had one of my better experiences with her. She was very attentive and a wonderful kisser. She rubbed her soft body against mine, including her smallish but perky breasts, and her ass was perfect. She also gave an excellent BBBJ and I indulged in delicious 69. We had sex in several positions and she always wanted to make it good for me. I finished with the condom off and her stroking me to completion, and it was explosive. She was cute, sexy, and gave excellent service, so I would highly recommend her and the excellent facilities at Liberty.

I was intending to go to Artemis on the weekend, but now thinking I might just go back and try to see Fiona for a longer time. I usually don't repeat with girls (preferring variability), but she was really nice.

Enjoy! R.

[Danyel]

Hi my friends,

This is Danyel from Mexico City with a mini four days vacation in Berlin. I want to have fun so tell me what do you reccomend? I am near Alexanderplatz in a hostel.

Any of you guys are visiting the city? We can go together!

[Angus Magee]

Hi my friends,

This is Danyel from Mexico City with a mini four days vacation in Berlin. I want to have fun so tell me what do you reccomend? I am near Alexanderplatz in a hostel.

Any of you guys are visiting the city? We can go together!


Hi,

I would suggest reading the thread and then, when & if you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask. The thread is full of recommendations. But not knowing what you like/are looking for, your question is pretty much impossible to answer.

In any case, have fun and remember to report on what you find.

AM

[Captain Slog]

Arrived at an hotel near the airport and thought I would give the Pussy Club a try. Its 100 euro to enter and supposedly that includes sex with as many girls as you like. The problem is that once you have paid to enter said establishment the girls have absolutely no incentive to do anything. Its a bit like those all you can eat bars for one price. Service included. The service is crap.

Well the Pussy Club (for me) was the same. Just awful. It was full of very noisy much younger men mostly turkish I think by the language, I wondered around in a towel, no girls would even talk to me.

You just have to think about the economic model of a place where your money means nothing once you are in. Its like trying to pick up girls at a party.

I don't mean this to be a downer but be warned.

Maybe I can get to Top Damas in Barcelona if I drive all night and all day. Ah the lovely Laura.

[Danyel]

...In any case, have fun and remember to report on what you find.AMThanks so much, and finally, I decided about the Liberty Club located near the U2 station Wittenbergplatz; it is a nice site, very clean and the girls are really sweet and good looking; Fiona was available, but I chose Cleo, because she introduced the girls to me, and because I wanted to post a report of a different girl.

Cleo is much better live than in her pics, she has a beautyfull face and lips, and her body is strong and nice; with great ass!! She is 100% german so to me, that was pretty ok since I was looking for local girls.

I took the 100€ service with natural oral and deep kissing, Cleo was so eager to please me that I was surprised, she is absolute fire, very recomendable, and she was very excited after she found out she was fucking his first mexican ever; she gave me excellent oral sex without condom, the best, and delicious kisses using her lips and tongue as an expert; after a while I returned the oral job and she was pretty hot saying words in German and screaming a lot, she came in my mouth and then she turned on 4 and asked me to euck her with condom of course, so i did, she is tight and after some good amount of minutes I came deliciously.

She started to masturbate again and I was so hard that I did have time for a second round; she masturbated while suking me again and then we made the 69 in which again she came; I finished masturbating while she sucked my balls and tits. What an experience, thanks guys for the liberty suggestion and I will keep you all informed about mexican places too, thanks Berlin.

[Wanking]

http://www.caligula-berlin.de/

I dont see the price mentioned on the site. Looks like it was a former brothel of the more traditional type.

Know anything about this one Angus?

[Vompat]

Club looks interesting, especially when I am going there in 1 months time. Prices are hidden but 119 € and happy hour 99 € 11. 18.

Looks like a strip club when you look at the pictures.

[Angus Magee]

Thanks so much, and finally, I decided about the Liberty Club located near the U2 station Wittenbergplatz; it is a nice site, very clean and the girls are really sweet and good looking; Fiona was available, but I chose Cleo, because she introduced the girls to me, and because I wanted to post a report of a different girl.

Thanks for the report. That's really taking one for the team-going for the girl who has not been reported upon I mean. Anyway, sounds like it worked out just fine.

Liberty is almost always for me a success as I find the girls have a very good, service oriented attitude. I have rarely (never?) been really disappointed there.

[Angus Magee]

Hi dear friends,

I found sweety again.! She is again working in berlin and I will try to see her end of the month!

Her is a very good report on her in the forum (Thread #1135). She worked in la-passion as sweety and as yve. She is wonderfull.

I will report as soon as I know more.

Will


Any word on Sweety? Just checking.

Thanks.

[Angus Magee]

http://www.caligula-berlin.de/

i dont see the price mentioned on the site. looks like it was a former brothel of the more traditional type.

know anything about this one angus?

well, i first spotted it about a month ago. at the time they had a 99 euro opening special. that offer expired at the end of may. now i think it is more like 150-160 to get in and sample the girls.

when i first reported on this place on the forum iseeu had a look and offered this assessment from looking at the website.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=888733&postcount=1599

i then found on a local forum a short report and summed it up here.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=888969&postcount=1600

so i have no personal experience but having done a walk by (it is but 10-15 meters from the bordello liberty) i would not be likely to give it a try. for one thing i have never been so interested in partytref action. and if i were to go to one i would want it to be a tired and true top quality spot.

also this place is in the old big-sexy land location and i find that these sorts of places don't change much when they get a face lift. and big-sexy land was notorious for being a bad, bad place to monger. and that whole complex of cinema booths/peep shows is, i am certain, mostly gay cruising territory as it is pretty much in the middle of berlin's gay ghetto and there are always plenty of sleazy looking men hanging around wearing loose gym shorts and tapping the feet.

not that there is anything wrong with that....

so i give that whole block a miss except when i am standing at the door ringing liberty's bell.

[Rocketboy0]

Does any one have any experience at this establishment. Can't find any reports searching. Here and fkk threads

Website: http://www.club-cleopatra-berlin.de/ address: Ullsteinstraße 172-174 just south west of the late beloved airport.

Not clear how all works from website. I met someone who works there. Trying to decide if it's worth a visit.

Many thanks for any info.

[Angus Magee]

Does any one have any experience at this establishment. Can't find any reports searching. Here and fkk threads

Website: http://www.club-cleopatra-berlin.de/ address: Ullsteinstraße 172-174 just south west of the late beloved airport.

Not clear how all works from website. I met someone who works there. Trying to decide if it's worth a visit.

Many thanks for any info.

Hi,

No personal experience but I did a quick search of the local boards and
cane up with a little bit of info.

I think that this is a standard strip club with rooms available. Drink prices are high and it costs about 75 euros for a half hour in a room with a girl. Keep in mind that this info may be out of date and there could be extras like buying the girls expensive drink involved.

If you are feeling adventurous it would be good to have some recent intel on this place.

[Rocketboy0]

Hi,

No personal experience but I did a quick search of the local boards and
cane up with a little bit of info.

I think that this is a standard strip club with rooms available. Drink prices are high and it costs about 75 euros for a half hour in a room with a girl. Keep in mind that this info may be out of date and there could be extras like buying the girls expensive drink involved.

If you are feeling adventurous it would be good to have some recent intel on this place.

HI- thanks Angus. There is a €10 entrance that offers dance credits etc. but don't see how that covers the sauna/jacuzzi bits. From my last expedition to the Bel Ami, that was only if you stayed with a girl..fair enough but I'd like to minimize the chances of disappointment and pointless up-selling. But if the real deal is as you say, this is a lot less, all in all, than the Artemis Love Bahnhoff...Pix look not bad on the facilities side. Could of course be Photoshop uber alles....

Did your websites say anything about the experience - quality of staff etc?

What about Villa Rascona - any reports on that? Need some new less expensive fields to plow. Die Kriese....

[Angus Magee]

Did your websites say anything about the experience - quality of staff etc

Well the report was positive but it was also about a year out of date and at that time the place was newly opened. It used to be a place called Pharos-sticking with the Egyptian theme I guess.

Personally I think I'll stick with Artemis as it seems to have what I want. Though I do also occasionally have a yearning for some new faces. Perhaps, as I mentioned in my last Artemis post, a couple of months break will help with that.

[Angus Magee]

From my last expedition to the Bel Ami, that was only if you stayed with a girl..fair enough but I'd like to minimize the chances of disappointment and pointless up-selling.



I am curious about this. Did you report upon it here? If so I must have missed it.

My impression of Bel Ami is that it is only for those with very deep pocket (i.e. lots of cash) and that an evening there can run you 500 euros plus.

What was your experience?

[Tompnis]

I've been away from Berlin for a while but now back and looking forward to some quality time (and posting reports here !)

A question; does anyone know of Thai places that offer full sex ? -- been to a couple that offer "happy ending" (HJ) but were reluctant to have full sex (or only for a considerable amount 100 euro above the already paid massage fee)

Any help much appreciated

[Kvaser]

Have any of you guys visited the brothel Karl-Marx-Strasse 13?:

http://www.karl-marx-str13.de/home.html

Some of the girls there look quite hot IMO, but I can´t find much information about it despite lots of googling. I'm considering visiting it in a few weeks but if it sucks or simply is a sham, I'd be better off spending my hard earned money elsewhere.

[Rocketboy0]

I am curious about this. Did you report upon it here? If so I must have missed it.

My impression of Bel Ami is that it is only for those with very deep pocket (i.e. lots of cash) and that an evening there can run you 500 euros plus.

What was your experience?

Angus me boy - I reported on this 3-25-09, and you yourself commented on my report 3-29-09. (All those nights at Artemis have clearly taken their toll....)

But yes the nights are to be avoided unless part of an EU bank rescue.

Meanwhile - back at the ranch...No one has any Villa Rascone tales?

[Angus Magee]

Angus me boy - I reported on this 3-25-09, and you yourself commented on my report 3-29-09. (All those nights at Artemis have clearly taken their toll....)

But yes the nights are to be avoided unless part of an EU bank rescue.

Meanwhile - back at the ranch...No one has any Villa Rascone tales?


Oh-you are right. And yes I even commented....

Yes Artemis must be taking it's toll. But thanks for the reminder of why I have never been to said establishment.

I could very well be wrong but I do also seem to remember a report on Villa Rascone some time back. But it is not (I understand) a bargain bordello.

And much as it has fallen into disfavor here, I recently read a glowing report on La Folie on a local forum. Always a possibility and the entry fee is such that it does not cost too much to find out.

[Angus Magee]

Have any of you guys visited the brothel Karl-Marx-Strasse 13?:

http://www.karl-marx-str13.de/home.html

Some of the girls there look quite hot IMO, but I can´t find much information about it despite lots of googling. I'm considering visiting it in a few weeks but if it sucks or simply is a sham, I'd be better off spending my hard earned money elsewhere.

I have visited KM13 some months back. I was not impressed. I may have written a report (some pages back) but briefly-I saw Petra (50 euros/half hour) and it was a very lack luster session. Once the money was paid I was barely allowed to touch her, just get myself hard and stick it in while she lay there.

Now, to be fair to the establishment, this may just have been this particular girl. But my experience with the cheaper Neuköln brothels is that you are as likely to get really bad service as anything else. There are gems to be found, but you never know until you pay your cash.

KM13 is the in call location of Hauptstadt Escorts. With these kinds of places you rarely seem to find the hot girls pictured on the website. They are either out on call or not working. The girls they offer for in call seem to be the second stringers.

Also, though the base price is cheaper you will pay for every single little extra, e.g.10 euros to lick her. So once you have paid the base price and for the privilege of licking her pussy you are already at the base price for a visit to Liberty or Salon Prestige. So why not visit either of those establishments. The girls there are at least interested in keeping you happy for a return visit.

IMO-stay away. If you are really interested in some Neuköln sleaze-Hermanplatz 2 does it better.

[Angus Magee]

I've been away from Berlin for a while but now back and looking forward to some quality time (and posting reports here !)

A question; does anyone know of Thai places that offer full sex ? -- been to a couple that offer "happy ending" (HJ) but were reluctant to have full sex (or only for a considerable amount 100 euro above the already paid massage fee)

Any help much appreciated

No personal experience at these places but here you go. A couple of links.

http://noi.rotlichtmodelle.de/
http://www.krabbe.rotlichtmodelle.de/home.html

I have been here

http://www.bundesallee128.de/

but not since the staff has turned mainly Thai.

Please let us know how it works out.

AM

[Whatid 2]

I am visiting Berlin soon and I stay near Wittenburgplatz (KaDeWe). Do you suggest any bordel or kino nearby (apart those on the google map of Berlinintim)?

Any experience of europasalon at Nollendorfplatz 7?

http://www.europasalon.de/index2.html

[Kvaser]

I have visited KM13 some months back. I was not impressed. I may have written a report (some pages back) but briefly-I saw Petra (50 euros/half hour) and it was a very lack luster session. Once the money was paid I was barely allowed to touch her, just get myself hard and stick it in while she lay there.

Now, to be fair to the establishment, this may just have been this particular girl. But my experience with the cheaper Neuköln brothels is that you are as likely to get really bad service as anything else. There are gems to be found, but you never know until you pay your cash.

KM13 is the in call location of Hauptstadt Escorts. With these kinds of places you rarely seem to find the hot girls pictured on the website. They are either out on call or not working. The girls they offer for in call seem to be the second stringers.

Also, though the base price is cheaper you will pay for every single little extra, e.g.10 euros to lick her. So once you have paid the base price and for the privilege of licking her pussy you are already at the base price for a visit to Liberty or Salon Prestige. So why not visit either of those establishments. The girls there are at least interested in keeping you happy for a return visit.

IMO-stay away. If you are really interested in some Neuköln sleaze-Hermanplatz 2 does it better.OK, thanks for the advice, Angus. Apart from Artemis I'll probably visit the other ones you mention as well, they were already on my planning list. How does Royal compare to the other smaller brothels in Berlin? I've heard and read good comments about it. Maybe there are some other minor venues that are less famous but still top notch qualitywise that you would recommend?

[Hektor T]

But yes the nights are to be avoided unless part of an EU bank rescue.

Meanwhile - back at the ranch...No one has any Villa Rascone tales?I was in Villa Rascone back in September and wrote about it a while later. You should expect to pay around 200EUR by the time you've paid the 30EUR entrance fee and the 160EUR for the half hour with the girl.

I don't know how Bel Ami is, but Villa Rascone is set up as a gentlemen's club where business types can go and talk to girls that have a higher than average level of social capability, then take them upstairs if they are so inclined. Pretty much everybody was wearing at least a sports coat and groups of 2-4+ business men seem to be the norm.

I always planned to go back, but haven't quite made it yet!

Re: a comment about Artemis pulling girls away from other clubs. I would say there are types of girls who wouldn't be caught dead in artemis because they don't want to do it so many times in one day to make their money. So in places like Bel Ami or Villa Rascone, they can go in a few days a week and make some extra money but not feel like they are taking it so much that soon they will be bow legged.

[Whatid 2]

I will stay a couple of days near KaDeWe. Any brothels or kinos around? (apart from those in berlinintim map)

Any experience of Europasalon in Nollendorfplatz?

http://www.europasalon.de/index2.html

do you have sex in kinos? why go to a kino and not eg to Liberty?

[Rocketboy0]

I was in Villa Rascone back in September and wrote about it a while later. You should expect to pay around 200EUR by the time you've paid the 30EUR entrance fee and the 160EUR for the half hour with the girl.

Hektor T - tried to find this earlier report you mentioned without success - including letting the old computer search through all yours... Thanks for the price info (ugh) but one thing that would be useful is some description of the girls themselves- how many were there, what were they like, etc. Seems awfully expensive for 1/2 hour so they better be scorching little pools of lava...

Any details appreciated. Thanks

[Angus Magee]

I will stay a couple of days near KaDeWe. Any brothels or kinos around? (apart from those in berlinintim map)

Any experience of Europasalon in Nollendorfplatz?

http://www.europasalon.de/index2.html

There are at several reports in the thread. You'll have to have a look.


do you have sex in kinos? why go to a kino and not eg to Liberty?

Late night booty calls & the pure sleaze aspect.

[Angus Magee]

OK, thanks for the advice, Angus. Apart from Artemis I'll probably visit the other ones you mention as well, they were already on my planning list. How does Royal compare to the other smaller brothels in Berlin? I've heard and read good comments about it. Maybe there are some other minor venues that are less famous but still top notch qualitywise that you would recommend?

In price and quality Royal compares to Kamila Dee IMO. It is slightly (very slightly) less expensive on the hour sessions and it is possible to have extras (bbbj) so it can end up being more expensive. That is, if you pay 150 for the hour (KD is 160) and then ad on bbbj & kissing it will end up costing 190 for the hour.

The nice thing about KD is there is no mention of bbbj (not available) and if the lady kisses you (not guaranteed) it will not cost extra. So you know when going in that unless you want anal (50 euros) you will not end up spending more than you want.

Other than that my preferences are pretty clear if you have read my reports. KD & Royal are nice for the occasional treat and Liberty is a good mid range bordello that gives a break on th base price. But again, if you start racking up charges for extras it can also get expensive.

I guess in the end Artemis has them all pretty well beat as being able to interact with the ladies before deciding to head to a room gives a great advantage. The only real reason for bordello visits is the time factor or if you happen to be a more private punter.

[Angus Magee]

Hektor T - tried to find this earlier report you mentioned without success - including letting the old computer search through all yours... Thanks for the price info (ugh) but one thing that would be useful is some description of the girls themselves- how many were there, what were they like, etc. Seems awfully expensive for 1/2 hour so they better be scorching little pools of lava...

Any details appreciated. Thanks

Here is Hektor's Villa report.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=832195&postcount=1243

AM

[Rocketboy0]

Here is Hektor's Villa report.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=832195&postcount=1243

AM
Thanks to you both. Seems like the odds are against one at the Villa, and especially now in summer...

[Angus Magee]

Seems awfully expensive for 1/2 hour so they better be scorching little pools of lava...

Not having been to The Villa (and it is unlikely I ever will) I can not really comment on the place specifically. But my sense is that this really is a place that wants a particular customer. They will certain discourage the "riff raff" with prices like 160 for the half hour plus entrance. And would you necessarily get a better session there? As Hektor points out you would probably get a very different sort of girl as you would find at Artemis. But for me it would not, I imagine, be worth the higher price. That is unless my financial circumstances took a steep upward turn then maybe I would give it a try.

And the higher price does conjure a certain exclusivity. Whether this is real or imagined is up the the individual monger to decide.

I'll stick with the hard working 'hos at Artemis, Liberty et. al..

[Pomeloman]

I will be in Berlin end July and am new to the Berlin (and German) scene and unfortunately I do not speak german so would appreciate some advice. On this first trip, I am not looking for a full sex encounter but more for a visual experience, Can anyone recommend any reputable good quality (pretty unhibited girls in nice safe surroundings not sleazy dives) clubs or establishments in Berlin that offer good floor shows by way of hardcore strip shows and /or sex shows (lesbian shows) where one is not ripped of or hassled to sit with a girl and pay exhorbitant prices for drinks or hassled to participate or go with a girl but can just relax and spend the evening enjoying almost continuous floor shows. I am not into lap dancing clubs as from my experience outside Germany, these are pretty tame and not value for money plus in many cases the no contact rule. Any recommendations and I emphasise the quality aspect. Appreciate any club names, addresses, nearest Ubahn or Sbahn station and directions from the station.

[Will Smith69]

Any word on Sweety? Just checking.

Thanks.Hi angus magee,

Sorry I was bussy traveling, so I did not report. But I meet her.

Now she has short black hair, and overall she is a lot propper then when I met her at her old escort agency. She now works independent, and I found het in the freiclub directory. I met her in a hotel. Perfect service, she still loves fingering and has "no" limits. Wonderfull. She also offers 30 minute mettings for 70 euro. I bokked 2h. And every minute was perfect.

So all the best

Will

[Skagen]

Can anyone recommend a good Berlin incall that is open on Sundays? Is okay if it isnt super-central, but not too much further out than say a bit past Van Kampen range.

[Soraki]

In the crossroad Gethiner strasse and Kürfursten strasse there is some street action. I saw 4-5 girls yesterdaz.

[Angus Magee]

Can anyone recommend a good Berlin incall that is open on Sundays? Is okay if it isnt super-central, but not too much further out than say a bit past Van Kampen range.

Most of the bordellos I mention here frequently are open on Sunday-KD, Royal, Liberty, Salon Prestige. In fact the only one that isn't is Mon Rouge.

[Hektor T]

Hektor T - tried to find this earlier report you mentioned without success - including letting the old computer search through all yours... Thanks for the price info (ugh) but one thing that would be useful is some description of the girls themselves- how many were there, what were they like, etc. Seems awfully expensive for 1/2 hour so they better be scorching little pools of lava...

Any details appreciated. Thanks

I just went back and read that old report. So it was 180EUR for 30min + 30eur entrance. So that's 210EUR for 30min. In that report I gave the details for what I saw and I supposed some were already occupied. If you just want pure beauty, you'll find more in Artemis, but you'll also meet some silly girls there. In Villa you can sit around and talk to them for as long as you want before you go upstairs and the girl seems to expect that. I think guys who appreciate this kind of experience think it's worth 30EUR to take a look. If you just want to get a hot one cheap Artemis is the place, but when you want to chat for awhile and be in an exclusive atmosphere (i.e. fantasy) go to Villa Rascona.

[Rocketboy0]

I just went back and read that old report. So it was 180EUR for 30min + 30eur entrance. So that's 210EUR for 30min. In that report I gave the details for what I saw and I supposed some were already occupied. If you just want pure beauty, you'll find more in Artemis, but you'll also meet some silly girls there. In Villa you can sit around and talk to them for as long as you want before you go upstairs and the girl seems to expect that. I think guys who appreciate this kind of experience think it's worth 30EUR to take a look. If you just want to get a hot one cheap Artemis is the place, but when you want to chat for awhile and be in an exclusive atmosphere (i.e. fantasy) go to Villa Rascona.
Thanks Hector - oddly, it just seems the odds are against you at the places - your older report seemed pretty disappointing. I thought maybe at the more exclusive clubs, there might be a few really hot staffers (yes who also could hold up a conversation), that the differerent client base might attract better women. It doesn't seem to work that way. While cost is surely a factor, from my side, it's also a time issue. What I really hate is having to wait say 1-2 hours just to find out there's no one fanciable around or available (and the additional 30 min each way to get there - can easily turn into a large waste of time.

I guess the exclusive places might offer some more discretion for political or business bigwigs who can't be seen in Artemis.

Too bad - but it's interesting sort of to see how these markets work. As Angus said in an earlier post, the more expensive/exclusive venues really don't seem to live up to the hype. Anyway - I'm sufficiently scared off. Artemis, or the Better Booty Boutiques on balance, seem a way better bet.

[Angus Magee]

Thanks Hector - oddly, it just seems the odds are against you at the places - your older report seemed pretty disappointing. I thought maybe at the more exclusive clubs, there might be a few really hot staffers (yes who also could hold up a conversation), that the differerent client base might attract better women. It doesn't seem to work that way. While cost is surely a factor, from my side, it's also a time issue. What I really hate is having to wait say 1-2 hours just to find out there's no one fanciable around or available (and the additional 30 min each way to get there - can easily turn into a large waste of time.

I guess the exclusive places might offer some more discretion for political or business bigwigs who can't be seen in Artemis.

Too bad - but it's interesting sort of to see how these markets work. As Angus said in an earlier post, the more expensive/exclusive venues really don't seem to live up to the hype. Anyway - I'm sufficiently scared off. Artemis, or the Better Booty Boutiques on balance, seem a way better bet.

Hey,but let's face it-a little bit of exclusivity is part of the mongering game. If a place is too cheap, well, they might find all sorts of "riff-raff"coming past the door. Maybe we all like to monger just a little below, but not to far below, our socioeconomic level. And that being said there are also instances where going way below your socioeconomic level seems to hold a powerful pull. I am thinking of Huge Grant, Eddie Murphy type indiscretions with tranny street 'hos here.

Personally one of the reasons I go to Artemis is to meet the "silly girls". My current fave there jumps in my lap now when she sees me and spends the next 20 mins. to 1/2 hour kissing me and giggling at the stupid little jokes I tell her.

I'm not says that she is not bright, it is just not for her brightness that I like to spend time with her at Artemis. Last time I saw her she very proudly displayed her new ability to really & truly deep throat my Schwanz. Lovely!! And she really could not do this 2 months back when I had my first session with her.

I admire (and I am not being facetious) a girl who, while doing this job, works on the craft and improves her skill set.

[Hektor T]

Hey,but let's face it-a little bit of exclusivity is part of the mongering game. If a place is too cheap, well, they might find all sorts of "riff-raff"coming past the door. Maybe we all like to monger just a little below, but not to far below, our socioeconomic level. And that being said there are also instances where going way below your socioeconomic level seems to hold a powerful pull. I am thinking of Huge Grant, Eddie Murphy type indiscretions with tranny street 'hos here.

Personally one of the reasons I go to Artemis is to meet the "silly girls". My current fave there jumps in my lap now when she sees me and spends the next 20 mins. to 1/2 hour kissing me and giggling at the stupid little jokes I tell her.

I'm not says that she is not bright, it is just not for her brightness that I like to spend time with her at Artemis. Last time I saw her she very proudly displayed her new ability to really & truly deep throat my Schwanz. Lovely!! And she really could not do this 2 months back when I had my first session with her.

I admire (and I am not being facetious) a girl who, while doing this job, works on the craft and improves her skill set.

I think you guys are both right, everybody is looking for something different. Usually something different from what they already have or have had. I'm just saying if you want the sure thing service wise, and a minimum level of beauty - go to Artemis. But after 3-4 times at Artemis you know exactly what you get there. In my villa report i did see the beautiful 20yo 1m80 German that i probably would have gone for if she has sat down with me first. I'm sure/hoping there are more like her in there.

Places like Villa Rascona or that Chez Nena or something I also reviewed, or those dive bars next to S-Bahn Charlottenberg have the potential to yield amazing finds who are just there to work out a temporary problem. The upside is they could be "less professional", but that could be a downside too. But I've found that in the high end places when you have a good connection, you've got a possibility to have a more memorable experience. The girl isn't meeting 10 guys/night, she's not in a big hurry and if she's working in there to meet guys that are some way not the general run of the mill, then you've got a chance for maybe something extra. That's happened to me more than once (not yet here!) where the girls ends up in my apartment or hotel for the whole night. With the part after the initial engagement not necessarily being charged.

For a similar reason, I haven't made it back to the Villa by now. I found a 9/10 girl on kijiji who is from West Germany and came to berlin to hang out and decided to be an occassional hooker. It was the only one i ever met on there, as the others just seemed to dodgy/risky to even give it a try. So since the price was 100EUR/hour I decided to see how far I could get by always giving her a little extra, the first time i gave her 150EUR and after about 4 meetings, giving extra the first three, that paid off pretty well. Now she only runs her escort ad when she needs to pay some bills, but we got on pretty well, so she still comes when i want, and when she meets me, the 100EUR is basically for however long i want.

[Angus Magee]

....for cyclists & public transit users.

Apparently Maison d'envie is offering a discount (5 Euros from the 70 Euro/45min. session) for those arriving at the brothel using pedal power or with proof of using public transit.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5821953/German-brothel-offers-discounts-to-cyclists.html

I have never been there myself but I think someone (mmaybe it was Hektor) wrote a report some months back.

I had a look on the website

http://www.danziger61.de/

and nobody there really caught my eye. But for the budget minded monger 65 Euros for 45 mins. is a pretty good deal.

[Bobo.fr]

...........
........
and nobody there really caught my eye.
.....

and how about Viola, this new lady from Kamilla-Dee, Angus :
http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/viola-e.htm

Did you see the new photos of Klio ( http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/klio-e.htm ) ? I found that the second and fourth photos give really a true image of her face

[Angus Magee]

and how about Viola, this new lady from Kamilla-Dee, Angus :
http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/viola-e.htm

Did you see the new photos of Klio ( http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/klio-e.htm ) ? I found that the second and fourth photos give really a true image of her face


Hi Bobo,

Yes Viola certainly looks lovely and she is on my list of possible girls to see when next I visit KD. I understand that Valentina will be in Berlin next week and I always try to see her when she is here. She is one of the few girl who does a really proper Deep Throat. And she loves to be face fucked with quite some force. Last time I wasn't being forceful enough and she corrected me.

And Klio-another girl I have always meant to do a return visit with but never seem to get around to it. I guess the fact that Artemis has been my main mongering venue for the past 6 months or so has something to do with this.

I would love to see a report on Viola if you have the opportunity and of course I will do the same if I see her first.

[Angus Magee]

For a similar reason, I haven't made it back to the Villa by now. I found a 9/10 girl on kijiji who is from West Germany and came to berlin to hang out and decided to be an occassional hooker. It was the only one i ever met on there, as the others just seemed to dodgy/risky to even give it a try. So since the price was 100EUR/hour I decided to see how far I could get by always giving her a little extra, the first time i gave her 150EUR and after about 4 meetings, giving extra the first three, that paid off pretty well. Now she only runs her escort ad when she needs to pay some bills, but we got on pretty well, so she still comes when i want, and when she meets me, the 100EUR is basically for however long i want.

Sounds like you struck gold here Hektor. I occasionally run through Kijiji but, as you mention, much of what is there looks/sounds rather dodgy. Any hints you can give as to the nature of this girls ad would be much appreciated.

Of course PM me if you don't wish to release this info on the open forum, which I would fully understand with such a gem.

[Bobo.fr]

.....
I would love to see a report on Viola if you have the opportunity and of course I will do the same if I see her first.
I don't think I will be in Berlin before september !! I hope Viola will still work there.

[Bobo.fr]

Artemis does not propose places for sunbath : does anybody know where can I find places for sunbath and ... sex in Berlin ?

[Angus Magee]

Artemis does not propose places for sunbath : does anybody know where can I find places for sunbath and ... sex in Berlin ?

Hi,

Well,in fact as far as I know (and I know the Berlin P4P scene pretty well I think) Artemis is the only game in town as far as FKK go. Not including La Folie which is not really FKK but a bar with benefits. And as you note there is no option at Artemis for outdoor sunbathing unless you count sitting on the back stairs as the sun hits it in the late morning...

For a non P4P health club which does have an outdoor sunbathing area with a small pool you might consider Luquidrom.

http://www.liquidrom-berlin.de/index.html

Don't let the bikini clad model on the website fool you. This is no FKK but it is a nice place to relax. And you never know the possibilities there for non P4P activities.

[Rainmadra]

Fuck me, those girls on the Royal website look fantastic. I've done a search and there dosen't seem to be much reporting done on the place. Defo going to make a visit when I return to berlin. Carmen looks like she'd do some damage. In a nice way of course.

Anyone got any new recon on this place?

[Angus Magee]

Fuck me, those girls on the Royal website look fantastic. I've done a search and there dosen't seem to be much reporting done on the place. Defo going to make a visit when I return to berlin. Carmen looks like she'd do some damage. In a nice way of course.

Anyone got any new recon on this place?Hi,

There are in fact several reports on Royal written by myself and others. Look back in the thread and you will find them.

But briefly, Royal is a top notch bordello with some very good talent available. It is, IMO, quite comparable to Kamila Dee with pricing that is similar if slightly less expensive, at least on the hour sessions. That is 150 as compared to 160/hr..

The difference is that some of the girls at Royal offer the bbbj option and some (fewer) bbbjcim. This plus the 20 euro kissing option can push the hourly rate up to 190.

But I would have to say that Royal is the nicest (at least as I have been to) location in terms of the actual decor. It is located in an "altbau" building on Bundesplatz and some of the rooms are huge and luxurious with massive, plush furniture & beds. It is worth at least one visit if only for the experience of being in a really luxurious bordello.

And as for the sessions-I have rarely been disappointed there. The girls are always attentive and treat you well IME.

My only criticism with Royal is that they do not publish a weekly schedule for the girls. So you have to call if you want to see a particular girl and ask if she is working. I have found them helpful though with regard to telling me when (if they know) a particular girl will next be working.

Hope this helps a bit and do please publish a report if you do end up going.

AM

[Timewaster]

Fuck me, those girls on the Royal website look fantastic. I've done a search and there dosen't seem to be much reporting done on the place. Defo going to make a visit when I return to berlin. Carmen looks like she'd do some damage. In a nice way of course.

Anyone got any new recon on this place?I wrote a report which includes Royal recently.

Do a search. I definitely recommend them.

Angus is right. The rooms are HUMUNGOUS and very luxurious.

[Angus Magee]

I wrote a report which includes Royal recently.

Do a search. I definitely recommend them.

Angus is right. The rooms are HUMUNGOUS and very luxurious.Not all the rooms are HUMUNGOUS. As it is an old building they all have the high ceilings so they have a roomy feel. But you have to be lucky (or ask) to be placed in one of the really big rooms. Generally the bigger rooms are reserved for longer sessions as far as I can tell. If you are paying for a longer session and they show you to a small room always ask for a bigger room. If one is available you will be changed.

[Devilspinkick]

It seems that the combination of jet-lag and lack of sleep had finally caught up with me and I slept through much of the afternoon this Friday. I decided to take a trip over to Kamilla Dee around 6PM and see if they had anything good. Yep - visiting an apartment-brothel on a Friday without a reservation. As can be expected, when I got there all of the ladies were occupied. The madame told me that if I returned in 30 minutes that there would be ladies available. When I asked specifically how many she said that there would be three available. I just didn't have the patience to sit around and wait, so I decided to head out. As I was leaving I saw and made eye contact with a very attractive little blonde gal. Left an impression on me as I walked out the door.

So I made my way to the Stattmitte and rang the doorbell of my old standby, Longma Thai massage. I visit this AMP at least once every trip so now was as good a time as any. They don't have any real beauties there but the gals I've been with have always been cute and not old grandmas. The lady who answered the door was once again cute and not 100 years old. She told me she was 30 and she looks to be around that age. She spoke very little English so we conversed via a mix of German and the little bit of Thai I know. Apparently her name is Needah or something like that. I opted for the 1 hour Tantra Style massage for a mere €100.

The massage started off rather slowly but got better as it transitioned from traditional to sensual. She actually had a nice little body on her with perky boobs that were likely fake. I've noticed that plastic surgeons in Thailand do exceptional boob work. All in all it was a pleasant way to get a release and she was a cute gal to spend time with. But for the ''real deal'' it can't compare to the massages I get when I'm actually in Thailand. Think I may pass through the LOS sometime next year. I showered up afterwards and said farewell.

Made my way to Alexanderplatz for some errands and just scope out the scene. A lot of folks out and about. Many pretty dames. Too much temptation for Mr. Happy. What to do tomorrow?

- DSK

[Severin Carl]

Has somebody been to "Bel Ami" recently? I used to go there some years ago, but then my favorite girl. Gina, a sports teacher from Poland. Disappeared and the other girls. Well, high prices and very low performance. I didn't come back. May be now, with the actual crisis there will be a purification of a market which got completely crazy. So, any information concerning "Bel Ami" would be wellcome. (And by the way: I found my Czech princess from "Artemis". Unfortunately meanwhile she went home.)

Sunshine and happyness.

[Bobo.fr]

....
I decided to take a trip over to Kamilla Dee around 6PM and see if they had anything good.

- DSK
I'm afraid that around 6PM is not a very good time to visit Kamilla-Dee because some ladies of the day-team already left and some of the night-team did not arrive yet !!

[Angus Magee]

Has somebody been to "Bel Ami" recently? I used to go there some years ago, but then my favorite girl. Gina, a sports teacher from Poland. Disappeared and the other girls. Well, high prices and very low performance. I didn't come back. May be now, with the actual crisis there will be a purification of a market which got completely crazy. So, any information concerning "Bel Ami" would be wellcome. (And by the way: I found my Czech princess from "Artemis". Unfortunately meanwhile she went home.)

Sunshine and happyness.

There is a recent report of Bel Ami written by Rocketboy and posted sometime this past spring. Briefly-it was not very positive but more to do with his treatment by management than by an experience with a girl. You'll have to go back and have a look if you want details.

[Devilspinkick]

Well now I remember why I simply go to Artemis when I´m here in Berlin. I made a return trip to Kamilla-Dee yesterday around 4:30PM hoping that there would be more on offer. Yes, there were 6 ladies available to view at this time. Unfortunately none of them looked nearly as good as they do on the website. A couple were practically grandmas. Maybe the older, experienced types work for some folks but not for me. I don´t want a teenager but at the same time I prefer something that looks less than 40. At least one of the ladies (a gal from Holland named Anaiis) was thin and decent looking.

Even though I´m rather jaded with Artemis I now see that the grass isn´t always greener on the other side. So despite it´s failings .... and despite the fact that it will probably be slow there today; I´ll be heading back to Artemis.

BTW - I´ve been to Van Kampen before and didn´t really care for that place even though I spent time with a smoking hot German dame once. I have the impression that Liberty is actually at a lower quality level than VK & KD so I´m not sure if I should waste time checking it out.

Won´t know unless I try.

- DSK

[Rocketboy0]

Well now I remember why I simply go to Artemis when I´m here in Berlin. - DSK
As Berliners should know, and non-Berliners need to know, until mid August, most of Berlin is on summer holidays. The "A team" just about everywhere will likely be spending their hard earned Euros on the beach in some Club Med country, as most of their steady clients will also be away. Even at Artemis - though there will be some no doubt newbies there, there will be fewer choices than normal. At smaller boutique booty shops - even more so. So don't be too strict in judgements. It is simply summer time.

Bel Ami:

As reported earlier I would steer clear of Bel Ami - women nothing special IMHO, really shabby client treatment, not worth the S-Bahn fare let alone the 300-500+ an evening would cost.

[Edie72]

Which is the best hour to go to KD or Monrouge without a reservation, during weekdays? Monday for example? Wich hour is good to find most of the girls available?

Thanks

[Ortos]

As Berliners should know, and non-Berliners need to know, until mid August, most of Berlin is on summer holidays. The "A team" just about everywhere will likely be spending their hard earned Euros on the beach in some Club Med country, as most of their steady clients will also be away. Even at Artemis - though there will be some no doubt newbies there, there will be fewer choices than normal. At smaller boutique booty shops - even more so. So don't be too strict in judgements. It is simply summer time.

Bel Ami:

As reported earlier I would steer clear of Bel Ami - women nothing special IMHO, really shabby client treatment, not worth the S-Bahn fare let alone the 300-500+ an evening would cost.I can't believe that rip-off joint, Bel Ami, is still in business. I remember way back in the mid-90s, when I spent a month in Berlin doing my Grundstueff 3 sprach-course at Goethe Institute, I bought a Stadtplan fuer Maenner of Berlin and saw Bel Ami listed as one of the pricier establishments. As I was a young stud back then, just getting into the hobby properly, I thought that a James Bond-type like me would feel at home at B.A. so off I went on some S-bahn ride to Olympische Stadium (I think) and then a nice 15-minute walk down some tree lined avenue in the boon-docks of Berlin --a perfect trekking enviornment to burn a few joints before B.A. Into Bel Ami I went and was NOT so impressed witht he girls, nor their champagne scam. So I left after an hour or so "ungeppopt." Amazing this place is still around and unchanged.

On a side note, I remember a place outside Berlin on the S-1 Potsdamm line where you got off at Gruenewald and walked a bit into a posh residential neighborhood where there was a place called "Petit Chalet" or something similar. Anyone know if that place is still around? Just wondering...

Btw, Rocketboy: Your assesment of the state of the fkk clubs during summer months is an excellent summary of what happens in the Hessen and NRW clubs too...

Ortos

[Angus Magee]

I have the impression that Liberty is actually at a lower quality level than VK & KD so I´m not sure if I should waste time checking it out.

Won´t know unless I try.

- DSKIs Liberty at a lower quality level? I would say it is not lower in quality or if it is only just slightly. My experience is that if you chose well you will get a comparable session quality in any of the three, KD, Royal & Liberty. The question remains-why is Liberty cheaper? My guess is just that they follow a slightly different business model than the other two.

KD has the high prices with no extras. At Liberty you pay less per hour but once you ad on a couple of extras you end up paying the same as if you had been to KD. But you get the extras.

My reasoning for going to KD is that if I find a girl there that I like and have good chemistry with, the milage that I get is very high. That is kissing & no clock watching seem to a given there-if you hit it off with the girl. The girls are very well treated at KD and I get the feeling that they want the customer to be happy and return.

With Liberty it is more of a "cat house" where you pay for services rendered. And that being said, if you hit it off with the girl again you get better treatment.

As a regular/resident you also may get better service. As with all of these places, if they know that you are going to return they have more incentive to treat you special.

One tip I might pass on is that the girls really do not like or respect the men who show up for the 20 minute sessions. One girl told me that if a guy comes for a 20 min. session most of the girls will just do the minimum required to fulfill the contract. Better to book a longer session (minimum 30 mins.-better 40 mins.) to get good treatment. And one can hardly blame them for this. What can you really do in a 20 min. session?

[Devilspinkick]

One girl told me that if a guy comes for a 20 min. session most of the girls will just do the minimum required to fulfill the contract. Better to book a longer session (minimum 30 mins.-better 40 mins.) to get good treatment. And one can hardly blame them for this. What can you really do in a 20 min. session?I'm with you on that one. I always go for at least 40 mins and prefer to do an hour. In the FKKs I typically start with the basic 30 mins, but if the session is going well then I´ll gladly extend it to an hour. I´m just jaded and picky because of my travels I guess. I want the chicks that look like they just stepped out of ''Playboy'' and nothing less. Unfortunately at this time of the year it seems that I will be forced to settle for less than my ideal.

I´ve decided to stop wasting my time and conserve my precious Euros for one last plurge at Artemis before I fly out. There aren´t any Playboy bunnies there either, but at least there are a few solid 7s & 8s.

BTW - I recently bought a copy of Playboy Germany and noticed that about half of the ladies in there where from Brazil. I can´t wait to go back there this September.

- DSK

[Hektor T]

....for cyclists & public transit users.

Apparently Maison d'envie is offering a discount (5 Euros from the 70 Euro/45min. session) for those arriving at the brothel using pedal power or with proof of using public transit.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5821953/German-brothel-offers-discounts-to-cyclists.html

I have never been there myself but I think someone (mmaybe it was Hektor) wrote a report some months back.

I had a look on the website

http://www.danziger61.de/

and nobody there really caught my eye. But for the budget minded monger 65 Euros for 45 mins. is a pretty good deal.Even if they gave me 20€ discount I wouldn't go there again! Actually there was no girl in there on the day i went I would have taken home from a bar for free!

[Hektor T]

Well it's boring here when Angus doesn't post everyday. There are a lot of guys asking where to meet girls in bars. Well I think in berlin that is anywhere and nowhere. But it's easier to pick up a girl in the bar in the West side if you're over 25!

When I first came to Berlin I looked at the world's best bar website (dont remember the url but google cocktail bars in berlin) and I found listings for Newton Bar and Universum Lounge. That website inferred that both were the haunts of high end call girls although the text has since been updated and those indicators removes. Anyway, once in awhile maybe it's accurate: Here's what I found:

Universum Lounge, Ku'damm - This place is only high end if you've only been in Eastern Europe before. Otherwise for anybody coming from the West it's a standard upscale cocktail bar, just a little bit eclectic since it's Berlin. But it is a favorite place of monied 30-50 year old single types from the wealthier neighborhoods of Berlin. I was staying near there in Charlottenberg for about a month, so I tried it many times without seeing any obvious working girls (or any single girls at all for that matter. Occassionally there were some pairs of very good looking 30 somethings). But then recently, when i was there with a lady friend as luck would have it. We walked in around 11:30 PM and there was a beatiful, 20 - 22yo slavic looking girl sitting alone at the bar with her designer jeans and Louis Vuitton handbag. I immediately decided she was Polish or Russian. She sat there alone with one drink for about 45min before a 40 something guy who had been sitting next to her alone for 30 min got up the courage to talk to her after his friend arrived. She immediately perked up to these daddy's aged guys and the conversation was lively for at least half an hour with both 40ish guys trying to get the upper hand. Then as suddenly as it started, it stopped. She paid her bill and left them there. For my money she was a working girl. Very good looking. NO idea of her price. so that place is worth a look, but only small chance you'll see a target. I was there at least 5 times before I saw her. Anyway, a nice place to start the night before you go out somewhere else (Villa Rascona is a 10-15min walk away and Artemis is a quick taxi ride from there). Or after you hit Liberty or KD since they close early and are not too far away. For younger guys or young at heart, just next door across the small plaza is the N1 Club. If you hit it on a special party night, it's full of 18-25yo girls whose Daddy's are probably in Universum. I hit it on a lucky night during a model agency party :-)

Newton Bar - This one also would be a good place to look according to that website, it's on the old East side near Gendarmemarkt and close to many 5 star hotels. The crowd is mostly 40-50yo business types from nearby hotels who look like they read the same website I did. I was there about 5 times too, but I rarely saw any unaccompanied girls under 35, once i saw a 10/10 in the company of two guys, but I didn't think she was working. So pass this one up unless you want to drink alone and not stick out.

All in all, if you want to find the hidden treasures, you'll have to just be adventurous. I'm sure there is a place full of hot girls for the taking or paying, but nobody is telling us about it because they know if they post it here it will be ruined. But in Berlin you can afford to be daring so try it.

[Gergiev]

Well it's boring here when Angus doesn't post everyday. There are a lot of guys asking where to meet girls in bars. Well I think in berlin that is anywhere and nowhere. But it's easier to pick up a girl in the bar in the West side if you're over 25!

When I first came to Berlin I looked at the world's best bar website (dont remember the url but google cocktail bars in berlin) and I found listings for Newton Bar and Universum Lounge. That website inferred that both were the haunts of high end call girls although the text has since been updated and those indicators removes. Anyway, once in awhile maybe it's accurate: Here's what I found:

Universum Lounge, Ku'damm - This place is only high end if you've only been in Eastern Europe before. Otherwise for anybody coming from the West it's a standard upscale cocktail bar, just a little bit eclectic since it's Berlin. But it is a favorite place of monied 30-50 year old single types from the wealthier neighborhoods of Berlin. I was staying near there in Charlottenberg for about a month, so I tried it many times without seeing any obvious working girls (or any single girls at all for that matter. Occassionally there were some pairs of very good looking 30 somethings). But then recently, when i was there with a lady friend as luck would have it. We walked in around 11:30 PM and there was a beatiful, 20 - 22yo slavic looking girl sitting alone at the bar with her designer jeans and Louis Vuitton handbag. I immediately decided she was Polish or Russian. She sat there alone with one drink for about 45min before a 40 something guy who had been sitting next to her alone for 30 min got up the courage to talk to her after his friend arrived. She immediately perked up to these daddy's aged guys and the conversation was lively for at least half an hour with both 40ish guys trying to get the upper hand. Then as suddenly as it started, it stopped. She paid her bill and left them there. For my money she was a working girl. Very good looking. NO idea of her price. so that place is worth a look, but only small chance you'll see a target. I was there at least 5 times before I saw her. Anyway, a nice place to start the night before you go out somewhere else (Villa Rascona is a 10-15min walk away and Artemis is a quick taxi ride from there). Or after you hit Liberty or KD since they close early and are not too far away. For younger guys or young at heart, just next door across the small plaza is the N1 Club. If you hit it on a special party night, it's full of 18-25yo girls whose Daddy's are probably in Universum. I hit it on a lucky night during a model agency party :-)

Newton Bar - This one also would be a good place to look according to that website, it's on the old East side near Gendarmemarkt and close to many 5 star hotels. The crowd is mostly 40-50yo business types from nearby hotels who look like they read the same website I did. I was there about 5 times too, but I rarely saw any unaccompanied girls under 35, once i saw a 10/10 in the company of two guys, but I didn't think she was working. So pass this one up unless you want to drink alone and not stick out.

All in all, if you want to find the hidden treasures, you'll have to just be adventurous. I'm sure there is a place full of hot girls for the taking or paying, but nobody is telling us about it because they know if they post it here it will be ruined. But in Berlin you can afford to be daring so try it.

Nice post, Hektor.

A useful counterpoint to the other info we get around here...

[Vompat]

Came with my friend to Tegel on Saturday noon, stayed at:

AI Königshof Hotel
Stuttgarter Platz 7
Berlin, 10627
Germany

3 * place, double for 60 € a day with 24 hour reception, 300 m from La Folie, 1,4 km from Artemis. Taxi from Tegel to centre is easy and cheap, 13 € we paid.

Had something to do in the afternoon and wanted a quick release so went to our back yard to:

http://www.celine-69.de/gallery.html

Pestalozzistraße 69
10627 Berlin, Germany

There was 4 girls, 1 was maybe 8 but busy, 1 was 6,5 wich I did and 2 were 4 - 5s. That session was nothing to tell home (or ISG) about.

Now I have to go to other partytreff and Artemis threads and come back here soon...

[Vompat]

Woke up after Artemis night with a little hangover, after A had some coctails in the corner coctail bar downstairs.

My friend went back to Celine (see my previous post). I wanted to try Liberty. I remembered caligula ( http://www.caligula-berlin.de/bordell-videos/brothel-berlin.html ) next to Liberty so went to the door and asked if I can look inside. Looks like an interesting place, saw 5 girls, 3 old and ugly but 2 quite beutyful and yong ones, 99 € fee for drinks and all you can fuck! After 6 pm it is 129 €. We had very limited time so I left and went to Liberty. They had 4 girls, all young and beautyful, chose Anis from Amsterdam (she is half Tunisian) very beautyful halfcast girl. Nice session with lots of hugging, 40 € for 20 minutes. It took only 13 minutes for me to come so she asked if I want her to massage me for 7 minutes that I had left. I agreed and massage was very good. I asked were she learned and she said she went to tantra massage school in Belgium, damn! Why did she not tell me that before, that is something I really wanted to try.

Just before I left went to this place:

KFS40
Last Updated by Karl on Feb 10
Run-down and quite seedy brothel almost across the street from La-Folie FKK. Some nice ladies to be found at times.
Kaiser-Friedrich-Straße
Kaiser-Friedrich-Straße 85
10585 Charlottenburg, Berlin, Germany

Had ok session with accidental COF with slim young girl called Carina.

I love Berlin!

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[Angus Magee]

From the past week.

As I have before mentioned in these pages I feel that the escort scene here in Berlin is probably the worst aspect of the city’s P4P action. There are some nice looking services in the 200 euro/hour range, a handful of cheaper services and a whole slew of indy girls who work through web pages such as Kijiji & poppen.de. The cheaper services though are very unreliable and who/what will show up at your door is sometimes scary. And the indy girls are a bit too risky for me.

That being said I have now used, over the past year & a half, La Passion three times and each time the visit has been a success. So I am now ready to state that IMO La Passion is the agency (with in the price range) of choice here in Berlin.

This time around I called and asked for Cindy.

http://www.la-passion-escort.de/profil-97.html

Her profile on the web site is new and I thought, if accurate, she could be a real honey.

The telephone contact was fairly easy though it had to be handled completely in German as the phone guy spoke much worse English than I speak German. I called at about 21:40 and was told Cindy could be at my place in 40-50 minutes. The agency phoned me back at 22:00 and told me that Cindy was under way and would be at my door with in the half hour. At 22:25 the door bell rang signaling her arrival.

The time between buzzing the girl in and when she appears at my door is always a time of nervous anticipation for me. For one thing I am always preying intensely that the neighbor across the hall does not chose just this time to leave the flat, kids in tow, just in time to see me greeting a young lady, more than half my age, in skin tight jeans & a revealing top. But this is unlikely. It is after all past 22:00 and as I mention-kids.

Then there is the anticipation that the girl will at least remotely resemble the picture that is on the web page.

As Cindy stepped into the flat I breathed a sigh of relief, shut the door, and before me stood a young lady with whom, at least visually I was very, very pleased.

Gents let me tell you now, Cindy is a girl who is just out of her teens and who look like she is still there. She is quite tall, a pretty face, breasts just fighting to get out of the skimpy top she had on and just a little bit shy & demure.

I welcomed her, took care of business, asked her if she wanted a drink, and we sat down for a few minutes with a glass of “proseco “ for a short chat. Then she headed for the shower. She took a bit long IMO-I was keenly aware of the clock ticking-but when she showed up in my room and I unwrapped her from the small towel I had provided all was forgiven.

Her full naked body is stunning.

The 1st picture on the website gives a pretty good indication but let’s just say here that everything is tight, taut & in proportion. And her breasts! beautiful, full and without a hint of sag.

We lay down on the bed and got quickly to business, or rather I got to business. Sorry to say that with Cindy her youth and beauty are her assets. But in all honesty she is not a very enthusiastic performer. I would not say that she turned totally “starfish” but there was not much coming back from her. The pussy licking was welcomed but there was little response on her part. She let me have my way but just lay there with her eyes closed while her pusy moistened slightly.

Her bj was pretty good but without a whole lot of enthusiasm. To her credit, when I realized that she was to be passive, I started to give her direction, both verbal and by taking hold of her head and physically directing the bj, and she did not object.

Now one thing to mention is that on the web site, in the description of services, “Zungenanal (gern auch gegenseitig)” is specifically mentioned. That is mutual tonguing of the anus!!!

Now to be honest this is one of the reasons I booked her. And at the same time I was not really that hopeful that it would actually happen. I was right. As I had her head down at my balls I tried to direct her a bit lower and was met with a bit of resistance. So I asked out right and she looked at me like I had suggested that she swallow razor blades.

No way!

I did not press the point.

The fucking was a bit better, less passive, than the rest of the session. But not much. Again she took direction, did what she needed to do but showed almost no passion. No matter, her youth & sexiness had little A’s full attention and it would not have been hard to finish with fucking. But in the end I had her take off the condom and finish with a cim. Well done, she made no objection as I made her remove her hand and thrust as deep a I could without causing her discomfort. And when, at the end, she tried to back off from the cum shot, I held her head down, she did not object.

After a quick trip to the loo she was back with me and we finished the remaining ten or so minutes with a bit of a cuddle. She was in no rush to leave but when the hour was up so was Cindy. She was at my place for exactly the hour. No more, no less. One hour of Cindy's time cost 100 euros plus 20 for the cim.

Summing up-as I mentioned to start-this agency I would have to say is reliable and handles everything efficiently. High marks.

Cindy her self-a beautiful and authentically young girl who has not been long in the business and, at the moment, is not a full time hardened pro. Time will tell how/if this changes. I was well satisfied with the session, if only because of her looks & body. But it is very highly unlikely that I would repeat the experience. The performance was just not there to warrant a repeat session.

[TransAmGuy]

Went to Caligula. Paid the 99euro entrance. First girl latched on to me pretty good. Wasn't bad 7/10, curvy to my liking. Conned a 25 Euro girl-drink out of me. Then another. Wasn't thinking, it'd been a while since I've been at a club. Went to a room. Had to wait because it was busy. Got inside. All inclusive included CBJ and sex. Extras included BBBJ and BBBJ with cum. Took the later. She made offer that she'll inlcude all the extras up to BBBJ if I buy another picolo (drink) and include them on a secod session. Sounded good.

She gave a gf experience, but turned into drunk psycho gf. Funny thing was I took off, and went back 45 min later, went for my 3rd session with a pretty, curvy Cuban (8/10 if you like curves) girl and could hear Leah pulling the same s**t with the next guy. Beware the first girl that grabs you.

All in all Caligula was OK. But I think I prefer Artemis where all the girls are pretty.

[Night Cat]

OK, I finally made it to Berlin. I checked out some of the suggestions that were given after my posts last May.

Liberty: Went there two days ago (Wed.). The Hausfrau didn't speak English but that was OK. They put me in a room, and several girls game in one by one to introduce themselves. After 6 girls, one of them came back in and asked me to choose. I said I'd like to see more if possible, and she said, "12 to 15 girls and you can't find one you like?" I said I saw only 5 or 6. She said maybe the others are busy. She seemed impatient, I guess maybe some guys come in just to look, who knows. Then I asked for Romy or Justin whom I saw on the website. Then she seemed to lighten up a little, as it seems I'd done my homework. So she went and got Romy. Maybe they had only shown me the English-speaking girls. I did the shortest time with Romy, with no extras (20 min., 40 euro). It was OK. Romy is kind of thin, with nice, natural breasts. She moaned more toward the end, not sure if it was real or fake, but was kind of nice. She's Polish and speaks no English. Someone on the Forum had asked whether Romy used to be Anna, so I asked her in my broken German, and she confirmed it.

One of the girls I was shown at Liberty was really tall, long legs, big thighs, blond, seemed to speak English. If anyone knows her name, please let me know.

I saw the Caligula club just a few doors down, but didn't go in, as I had already finished my business. From the stories online, it sounds like it's not a real partytreff (sex in public areas), and not a real FKK (girls semi-nude or nude), and the thing about pressure to buy "girl drinks" is a turn-off, so I'll give it a pass. If anyone has anything good to report, please post.

Gangbang(not): I checkout out the website someone suggested earlier, and tried to show up at a gangbang at Mondshein in Kreuzberg today (Friday) around 5:30pm, which was supposed to run from 1-7pm. The guy at the door spoke some English, and I asked about there being a party today, and he said no, I should come tomorrow at 8pm. I thought that was strange. Then, while standing around outside, a customer came out, and I asked him in my broken German, was there a party or not. He said there was, but I was too late, the girl is finished, and he was the last one. Oh well, I guess it's better to go early. I probably won't go back tomorrow, because the photo of tomorrow's girl online doesn't look as nice as today's (Nicole). So I missed out.

Liberty, again: So I went back to Liberty, around 6pm today. They had only 3 girls to show me. I'm not sure what the deal is, maybe the best looking ones are also the busiest? So one has to ask to wait to see more girls as they become available? Whatever, I chose Vanessa, a curvy Asian gal with good English. She seemed a little unfriendly, didn't smile much, but I figured she was attractive enough. She seemed to know I had been there recently, and said she doesn't like it too hard. I said she can tell me if she feels uncomfortable, and she seemed OK with that. Her breasts were nice, not sure if they're real (sometimes can't tell these days). Again, OK overall, but kind of mechanical compared with gals in Asia where I find girls to have a warmer attitude.

After leaving, I vaguely recall having given Vanessa a 50 (up front) for a 20 minute session (the price is 40), and don't recall getting my change. I decided not to go back in and complain, since I had already left, so I was in a weak position to raise the issue. But I still felt it was a little slimy on the girl's part. Best thing is to give them exact change.

Skype question: Does anyone know of an Internet cafe where Skype-out works (i.e., use Skype to make international calls to real phones)? It never works in the two net cafes near me (Turmstrasse U-bahn). Or is this something that doesn't work in Berlin net cafes?

[Angus Magee]

OK, I finally made it to Berlin. I checked out some of the suggestions that were given after my posts last May.

Skype question: Does anyone know of an Internet cafe where Skype-out works (i.e., use Skype to make international calls to real phones)? It never works in the two net cafes near me (Turmstrasse U-bahn). Or is this something that doesn't work in Berlin net cafes?

Thanks for the reports.

One thing I might mention is that the 20 minute sessions are not a good way to judge girl's performance nor to get her to give her best. The girls tell me that when a guy (especially some one who is an obvious non resident) goes for the 20 minute option most girls will do the bare minimum to finish the session. This might not be "right", you are still a paying customer, but it is understandable IMO and the way of the world. Unless you can find a girl who just does her best regardless. They are rare but do exist.

Fucking guys all day can't be easy and the girls will reserve their energy for guys they judge to be worth it. Especially if you are here for just a short time I recommend paying for a half hour session at least in order to really get your money's worth.

Romy, for instance, is a bit of a lazy girl. But if she smells money...

I think it is an aphrodisiac for her.

My way of looking at it is that I would rather pay a bit more and get a good experience than save a bit of cash and have a lack luster session.

As for the Skype question-I am not really familiar with Internet Cafes nor with how Skype-out works. Have you used Skype-out on shared computers in other parts of the world? I really can not imagine that it works any different in Berlin. One thought is that if you are going into an Internet Cafe that also does long distance calls (many do-they have booths in the back where you make the call) they might just disable that function on Skype. It would sort of cut into their LD business.

Just a thought.

[Angus Magee]

Went to Caligula. Paid the 99euro entrance. First girl latched on to me pretty good. Wasn't bad 7/10, curvy to my liking. Conned a 25 Euro girl-drink out of me. Then another. Wasn't thinking, it'd been a while since I've been at a club. Went to a room. Had to wait because it was busy. Got inside. All inclusive included CBJ and sex. Extras included BBBJ and BBBJ with cum. Took the later. She made offer that she'll inlcude all the extras up to BBBJ if I buy another picolo (drink) and include them on a secod session. Sounded good.

She gave a gf experience, but turned into drunk psycho gf. Funny thing was I took off, and went back 45 min later, went for my 3rd session with a pretty, curvy Cuban (8/10 if you like curves) girl and could hear Leah pulling the same s**t with the next guy. Beware the first girl that grabs you.

All in all Caligula was OK. But I think I prefer Artemis where all the girls are pretty.

Thanks for the report. You might also want to post this over on the Other Partytreffs thread. There was an inquiry about this place just yesterday over there.

But I think you are right about Artemis. From the sounds of it you spent almost enough money for a visit to Artemis (200 minimum IMO) and had a so-so time.

[Cooper424]

I am travelling to Berlin with my wife in September, and we like to enjoy beautiful women together. We have looked for women in Germany to provide services to couples before, without much luck. Are there any places that specialize in serving couples or women? Is this common/uncommon in Berlin or Germany as a whole? Any info will be greatly appreciated, we are really trying to have a good time while there!

[TransAmGuy]

Thanks for the report. You might also want to post this over on the Other Partytreffs thread. There was an inquiry about this place just yesterday over there.

But I think you are right about Artemis. From the sounds of it you spent almost enough money for a visit to Artemis (200 minimum IMO) and had a so-so time.Will post at Party Treff thread.

Cheers

[Angus Magee]

I am travelling to Berlin with my wife in September, and we like to enjoy beautiful women together. We have looked for women in Germany to provide services to couples before, without much luck. Are there any places that specialize in serving couples or women? Is this common/uncommon in Berlin or Germany as a whole? Any info will be greatly appreciated, we are really trying to have a good time while there!

I would have to point you towards Kamila Dee for this. I am not sure that I would say that they specialize in this service but KD is one of the premier bordellos in Berlin and they are service oriented. What this means for you is that you could give them a call, explain what you want and what sort of girl you like and I am sure that they could find a girl to suit your taste.

Here is a link to the web page to give you an idea of what the girls are like. It is in German & (mostly) in English as well. The girls that see couples are usually indicated in their preferences.

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm

Good luck and please do remember to post your report as a way of giving back for any useful information that you receive here.

[My Dixie Wrecked]

From the past week.

As I have before mentioned in these pages I feel that the escort scene here in Berlin is probably the worst aspect of the city’s P4P action. There are some nice looking services in the 200 euro/hour range, a handful of cheaper services and a whole slew of indy girls who work through web pages such as Kijiji & poppen.de. The cheaper services though are very unreliable and who/what will show up at your door is sometimes scary. And the indy girls are a bit too risky for me.

That being said I have now used, over the past year & a half, La Passion three times and each time the visit has been a success. So I am now ready to state that IMO La Passion is the agency (with in the price range) of choice here in Berlin.

This time around I called and asked for Cindy.

http://www.la-passion-escort.de/profil-97.html

Her profile on the web site is new and I thought, if accurate, she could be a real honey.

The telephone contact was fairly easy though it had to be handled completely in German as the phone guy spoke much worse English than I speak German. I called at about 21:40 and was told Cindy could be at my place in 40-50 minutes. The agency phoned me back at 22:00 and told me that Cindy was under way and would be at my door with in the half hour. At 22:25 the door bell rang signaling her arrival.

The time between buzzing the girl in and when she appears at my door is always a time of nervous anticipation for me. For one thing I am always preying intensely that the neighbor across the hall does not chose just this time to leave the flat, kids in tow, just in time to see me greeting a young lady, more than half my age, in skin tight jeans & a revealing top. But this is unlikely. It is after all past 22:00 and as I mention-kids.

Then there is the anticipation that the girl will at least remotely resemble the picture that is on the web page.

As Cindy stepped into the flat I breathed a sigh of relief, shut the door, and before me stood a young lady with whom, at least visually I was very, very pleased.

Gents let me tell you now, Cindy is a girl who is just out of her teens and who look like she is still there. She is quite tall, a pretty face, breasts just fighting to get out of the skimpy top she had on and just a little bit shy & demure.

I welcomed her, took care of business, asked her if she wanted a drink, and we sat down for a few minutes with a glass of “proseco “ for a short chat. Then she headed for the shower. She took a bit long IMO-I was keenly aware of the clock ticking-but when she showed up in my room and I unwrapped her from the small towel I had provided all was forgiven.

Her full naked body is stunning.

The 1st picture on the website gives a pretty good indication but let’s just say here that everything is tight, taut & in proportion. And her breasts! beautiful, full and without a hint of sag.

We lay down on the bed and got quickly to business, or rather I got to business. Sorry to say that with Cindy her youth and beauty are her assets. But in all honesty she is not a very enthusiastic performer. I would not say that she turned totally “starfish” but there was not much coming back from her. The pussy licking was welcomed but there was little response on her part. She let me have my way but just lay there with her eyes closed while her pusy moistened slightly.

Her bj was pretty good but without a whole lot of enthusiasm. To her credit, when I realized that she was to be passive, I started to give her direction, both verbal and by taking hold of her head and physically directing the bj, and she did not object.

Now one thing to mention is that on the web site, in the description of services, “Zungenanal (gern auch gegenseitig)” is specifically mentioned. That is mutual tonguing of the anus!!!

Now to be honest this is one of the reasons I booked her. And at the same time I was not really that hopeful that it would actually happen. I was right. As I had her head down at my balls I tried to direct her a bit lower and was met with a bit of resistance. So I asked out right and she looked at me like I had suggested that she swallow razor blades.

No way!

I did not press the point.

The fucking was a bit better, less passive, than the rest of the session. But not much. Again she took direction, did what she needed to do but showed almost no passion. No matter, her youth & sexiness had little A’s full attention and it would not have been hard to finish with fucking. But in the end I had her take off the condom and finish with a cim. Well done, she made no objection as I made her remove her hand and thrust as deep a I could without causing her discomfort. And when, at the end, she tried to back off from the cum shot, I held her head down, she did not object.

After a quick trip to the loo she was back with me and we finished the remaining ten or so minutes with a bit of a cuddle. She was in no rush to leave but when the hour was up so was Cindy. She was at my place for exactly the hour. No more, no less. One hour of Cindy's time cost 100 euros plus 20 for the cim.

Summing up-as I mentioned to start-this agency I would have to say is reliable and handles everything efficiently. High marks.

Cindy her self-a beautiful and authentically young girl who has not been long in the business and, at the moment, is not a full time hardened pro. Time will tell how/if this changes. I was well satisfied with the session, if only because of her looks & body. But it is very highly unlikely that I would repeat the experience. The performance was just not there to warrant a repeat session.

Thanks for this information Angus. I was in Berlin a few days ago and tried to contact this agency to try out Cindy. The person on the phone could not speak English very well and I cannot speak German. I think he was trying to tell me she was not available tonight and would I like to choose someone else.

Was a shame but maybe I will e-mail them and try to arrange before returning to Berlin next time

Cheers

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Angus Magee]

Thanks for this information Angus. I was in Berlin a few days ago and tried to contact this agency to try out Cindy. The person on the phone could not speak English very well and I cannot speak German. I think he was trying to tell me she was not available tonight and would I like to choose someone else.

Was a shame but maybe I will e-mail them and try to arrange before returning to Berlin next time

Hi,

This is one of the difficulties with using the less expensive agencies in Berlin. Usually the phone will go straight through to the driver and his English skills will be low to none. With La Passion I might suggest phoning earlier in the day (13:00-14:00) and trying to pre-arrange a session. The first time I used this agency this is what I did. I was not very hopeful as to the girl showing up on time (I booked early afternoon for 22:00) but the agency handled everything with complete competence. You can try the email but I would not put much faith in it, especially if you write in English. But you never know.

As I mentioned in my report, Cindy is indeed a new comer and not very much the pro. It would not surprise me if she is a bit difficult to book as she is also a bit of a party girl. I also think that her friend, Alicia, looks promising if a bit of a larger girl.

[Iseeu]

I am travelling to Berlin with my wife in September, and we like to enjoy beautiful women together. We have looked for women in Germany to provide services to couples before, without much luck. Are there any places that specialize in serving couples or women? Is this common/uncommon in Berlin or Germany as a whole? Any info will be greatly appreciated, we are really trying to have a good time while there!
You should have no problem finding this in Berlin. There are probably more bi-women willing for this in Germany than any other place in the world and Berlin is the swingers' capital of the world with a bunch of swingers clubs in the Berlin environs.

Can't provide the links right now, but a quick Google search should turn up dozens of escorts and swingers contact boards for Germany. You'll need some rudimentary German to navigate through and find your mark.

[Fox7717]

Just been to Berlin for a few days.

Surprised to see so many SW near the TV tower area. (Mitte Market?)

Several were just stunning (9-10) and so I am completely baffled why they are plying their trade in the street and not earning a lot more escorting etc.

Can someone explain?

Cheers

fox7717

[Angus Magee]

Just been to Berlin for a few days.

Surprised to see so many SW near the TV tower area. (Mitte Market?)

Several were just stunning (9-10) and so I am completely baffled why they are plying their trade in the street and not earning a lot more escorting etc.

Can someone explain?

Cheers

fox7717

This is a question probably worthy of an extensive psychological study. A masters thesis at least.

But.... my understanding is so.

One thing that I have learned in my years of mongering (& civilian dating for that matter) is that physically beautiful, and I mean stunningly beautiful, women very rarely experience themselves as physically beautiful. My theory is that they spend so much time looking at themselves in the mirror that all they see is their, imagined or otherwise, flaws.

That and street prostitutes are, more often than not, hooked up with a boyfriend (i.e. pimp) in whose interest it is to keep them working the streets. These "BF's" will do anything to undermine the girl's confidence in herself, thus she never even sees that she could make far more money either as an independent or working for a reputable escort agency.

A third thing-these girls might look stunning but being a successful escort involves a lot more than just looking stunning. If you jump to the level of the 200-250 euro/hr. escort, you also need to have some social skills and be able to entertain in ways other than just looking stunning. And many of the agencies at the 100 euro/hr. range are little more than pimps anyway who pay the girls a very small percentage of what they earn. The street is more about the hustle than it is about providing sex and with relatively little actual
sex, these street girls can probably bring in quite a bit of cash-which thay promptly then give to their pimps.

Go figure.

[Fox7717]

This is a question probably worthy of an extensive psychological study. A masters thesis at least.

But.... my understanding is so.

One thing that I have learned in my years of mongering (& civilian dating for that matter) is that physically beautiful, and I mean stunningly beautiful, women very rarely experience themselves as physically beautiful. My theory is that they spend so much time looking at themselves in the mirror that all they see is their, imagined or otherwise, flaws.

That and street prostitutes are, more often than not, hooked up with a boyfriend (i.e. pimp) in whose interest it is to keep them working the streets. These "BF's" will do anything to undermine the girl's confidence in herself, thus she never even sees that she could make far more money either as an independent or working for a reputable escort agency.

A third thing-these girls might look stunning but being a successful escort involves a lot more than just looking stunning. If you jump to the level of the 200-250 euro/hr. escort, you also need to have some social skills and be able to entertain in ways other than just looking stunning. And many of the agencies at the 100 euro/hr. range are little more than pimps anyway who pay the girls a very small percentage of what they earn. The street is more about the hustle than it is about providing sex and with relatively little actual
sex, these street girls can probably bring in quite a bit of cash-which thay promptly then give to their pimps.

Go figure.


Most 'escorting' in reality is just meeting blokes in Hotel rooms, which does not require much in the way of 'social skills' or conversation, as they are not usually being paid to talk!

[Rocketboy0]

Lads,

Had recent visit to Frankfurt, which opened my eyes re the Artemis scene here in Berlin. Both the Palace and Oase (75 and 65 Eur entrance, with 50 for 30 minutes of thrills and chills) vs 80 and 60 for Artemis. Staff of all tastes every where (they seem to rotate thru the FKK scene, including some from Artemis.

But that's only the beginning, as both the food and facilities are really much much better in the Rhein Mein. Oase in particular spent a lot on refurbishment. However, as much of the appeal is the summer garden scene, this is less compelling past Sept. But they have a proper jacuzzi, heated, powerful water jets, vs. the ice bath in Artemis. Palace has really nice rooms, little touches like a reading area that is well lit, with international newspapers, self contained smoking areas vs the main room, and really good food.

In short, Artemis is well short of these levels of service, while being far more expensive. I will stick more and more to the private apts in Berlin. Like you all I have a few Artemis favs - but really, you should see the competion. And I think that's the problem-in Frankfurt there are 3 options (with World also). In Berlin, only 1.

[Night Cat]

I am travelling to Berlin with my wife in September, and we like to enjoy beautiful women together.
I have to say, I've always been envious of that. I've never had a lady friend who was into 3somes at all.

OK, here are some concluding remarks on my Berlin trip.

Artemis: Went there for my first time on a Thursday night (Aug. 20, 10:30pm-4am). Nicoletta (or Nicolette) was very good. She's Bulgarian, medium-dark skin, long dark hair, kind of a wide behind (the kind that's good for doggy), nice breasts, nice smile. I noticed her as soon as I walked in and asked her name. Later, after hitting the lockers, and then the food, I was cruising the bar area, and was approached by a few women who asked right away if I want to go to a room -- a little confronting for me. Then I ran into Nicoletta again, and she sat and chatted with me for a few minutes, which made a much more friendly impression. We went to do it in the kino space adjacent to the bar. It's a nice option if you like to do it in a more public space -- like partytreff, but not so much action going on around you. Actually, we were the only people in there at the time, and sometimes someone came in and looked, but didn't stay (even though I thought we put on a pretty good show). Nicoletta is easily one of the top 5 lays I've ever had in my life, mainly because of how into it she was (being very lively, rubbing her clit during the act, etc.). Normally, I'm very plain, just do mish and no BJ, but she went ahead and initiated the BJ anyway so I let her, and she inspired me to do cowgirl, doggy, and mish. I don't know if we just had a special chemistry, or if she's so enthusiastic and passionate with all guys. YMMV, I guess. Afterwards, I was with two other girls, everything was just average. Total damage, 260 EUR (80 for entrance, and 60 for each girl).

Danziger61: I went and asked for Chiara, because I liked her photos on the website. In person, she was not as sexy as I had imagined, but OK. I just did mish (my standard routine), and we had a nice chat about life in Berlin. I showed her my transit ticket and got a 5 EUR discount, so I can confirm that the discount exists. Total damage, 65 EUR for 45 min. I didn't see the other girls, so I left not having any strong feeling about going back someday.

Skype: I was finally able to get Skype-out working at two net cafes. Sometimes it's a matter of getting a computer where the hardware works, and then getting the attendant to fix the Windows sound configuration so the mic works properly. But if Skype says that the connection is "blockiert" then one should go elsewhere.

I may go back to Berlin next year and continue my adventure. However, I got the impression that there are not many good looking women in Berlin, as I walked around the city, took the subway, etc. (I don't go clubbing). So I'm not optimistic about meeting normal girls there. An older gentleman at Artemis recommended to me a dating website, something that starts with "p", but I can't remember the name. Anyone know?

[Angus Magee]

Artemis: Went there for my first time on a Thursday night (Aug. 20, 10: 30pm-4am). Nicoletta (or Nicolette) was very good. She's Bulgarian, medium-dark skin, long dark hair, kind of a wide behind (the kind that's good for doggy), nice breasts, nice smile. I noticed her as soon as I walked in and asked her name. Later, after hitting the lockers, and then the food, I was cruising the bar area, and was approached by a few women who asked right away if I want to go to a room.- a little confronting for me. Then I ran into Nicoletta again, and she sat and chatted with me for a few minutes, which made a much more friendly impression. We went to do it in the kino space adjacent to the bar. It's a nice option if you like to do it in a more public space.- like partytreff, but not so much action going on around you. Actually, we were the only people in there at the time, and sometimes someone came in and looked, but didn't stay (even though I thought we put on a pretty good show). Nicoletta is easily one of the top 5 lays I've ever had in my life, mainly because of how into it she was (being very lively, rubbing her clit during the act, etc.). Normally, I'm very plain, just do mish and no BJ, but she went ahead and initiated the BJ anyway so I let her, and she inspired me to do cowgirl, doggy, and mish. I don't know if we just had a special chemistry, or if she's so enthusiastic and passionate with all guys. YMMV, I guess. Afterwards, I was with two other girls, everything was just average. Total damage, 260 EUR (80 for entrance, and 60 for each girl).Hi Night Cat,

Nicoletta is actually the girl I have been referring to in most recent Artemis thread post as Bulgarian Girl #1. She has been my favorite girl for some months now. An absolutely wonderful girl, her enthusiasm in the room seems to know no bounds. I find her honest (she will never short you on time), thoughtful (she remembers what you like and does more of it the next time), and generally a top notch provider.

Glad that you made her acquaintance.

BTW-she tells me that she will be leaving Artemis for a trip back home very soon. She also tells me that she will be back. I hope so, but I also sort of would like to see her find a really nice guy her own age and have a happy life away from this business. I think she would make someone a really good wife & partner

I guess I am a bit of a softy with this girl because, as you can tell, I hold her in very high regard.

AM

[Fordmustang]

Think about going to Berlin? Anybody done the 79 euro special at the Pussycat Club for the all you can shag deal? Is there any other similiar places?

[Hektor T]

I may go back to Berlin next year and continue my adventure. However, I got the impression that there are not many good looking women in Berlin, as I walked around the city, took the subway, etc. (I don't go clubbing). So I'm not optimistic about meeting normal girls there. An older gentleman at Artemis recommended to me a dating website, something that starts with "p", but I can't remember the name. Anyone know?I agree that you don't see so many good looking women walking around on the streets. They are more in West Berlin around Kufurstendamm, etc than anywhere else. I met a very nice girl in a bar nearby once who grew up in East Berlin and she told me she lives in Wilmersdorf (West Berlin - charlottenberg) because she likes to dress up. There are a few places like Puro Lounge (thursday / saturday nights) where you can see lots of beautiful girls. But it's one of the only places in Berlin where they don't let everybody in and they seem to enforce a dress code.

For the dating site I heard of something similar.. Paarchen? Something like that. Good Luck!

[Gearmen]

Hi,

Next week I'll stop in Berlin Airport Hotel for one night and I'm looking for an escort to met, anyone have some suggestion about escort agency or girl that can travel to the airport?

Cheers Gear

[Angus Magee]

Hi,

Next week I'll stop in Berlin Airport Hotel for one night and I'm looking for an escort to met, anyone have some suggestion about escort agency or girl that can travel to the airport?

Cheers Gear


Just a suggestion-if you let the board know what kind of lady you are looking for-price range? top model? skank? etc., it would be a whole lot easier to help.
Perhaps do some research, read the thread, and come back with something a little more specific.

Open ended questions usually sit here unanswered. Specific question get specific results.

[Angus Magee]

Think about going to Berlin? Anybody done the 79 euro special at the Pussycat Club for the all you can shag deal? Is there any other similiar places?

There are several reports about The Pussy Club Berlin in this and in another thread , in the partytref section somewhere I think.

As far as I know, and I am not into cheap partytref sex myself, The Pussy Club chain has recently had to change its' business plan due to some police raids. You might want to do some research before heading out.

AM

[Gearmen]

Thaks Angus for your reply,

I have already lookednto old report and I have found some escort agency and to be honest the average price for 2 hours is around 360 euro.

I would like to met a no pro girl if anyone have already some esperience, and if I would choice one from an agency definetely I'm looking for some young petite with a an high GFE.

Gear

[Rocketboy0]

Thaks Angus for your reply,

I have already lookednto old report and I have found some escort agency and to be honest the average price for 2 hours is around 360 euro.

I would like to met a no pro girl if anyone have already some esperience, and if I would choice one from an agency definetely I'm looking for some young petite with a an high GFE.

Gear
Gearmen - though I can be critical of Artemis the Mega Love Bahnhoff, in your case, 80 for entrance and 4 x 60 (a half hour sessioni)= 320. Even with taxi - you'd still be way ahead, and have many more options (likie multiple partners whom you could choose at your leisure vs. the pressure of getting it just right w escort, plus dinner plus the pool sauna etc. Seems a far better deal.

I was there last night & it was really rockin with lots of talent-due to IFA congress through next week. Heard alsothere are (finally) big refurbishment plans in the works for 2010 when auto tire firm in front will go, new pool, restaurant. more parking. Wir werden sehen.

[The Grand Wazoo]

Has anybody paid a recent visit to the Mon Rouge bordello in Charlottenburg? I had a glorious experience there last year and hope to give it another shot.

However I'm a bit reluctant simply because it appears that the same SP's have been on their website for years. I know for a fact that a few no longer work there. And while I had a fantastic session with Nicky, I also remember not recognizing any of the other girls present that night. None of which were nearly as hot as their website portrays.

I see that they even post a "new" girl (Celine) and I'm almost certain that she too has been on their site for at least a year.

Is it simply a case of poor website updating or a case of false advertising? They sure seemed repuatable when I was there last.

Any updates are greatly appreciated.

The Grand Wazoo

[Angus Magee]

Thaks Angus for your reply,

I have already lookednto old report and I have found some escort agency and to be honest the average price for 2 hours is around 360 euro.

I would like to met a no pro girl if anyone have already some esperience, and if I would choice one from an agency definetely I'm looking for some young petite with a an high GFE.

Gear

Rocketboys suggestion is not a bad one ( re Artemis) but maybe you do not have the time or the inclination for such festivities? For 360 Euros you can have a pretty good time at Artemis.

Anyway, as for escorts, for the price you mention and becuase you may only be in town for a short time and do not have time to shop around, I would have to recommend Kamila Dee outcall service.

If you have spent much time reading the forum you will know that IMO this is the best bordello in Berlin (over all) and the service you receive would almost certainly be good.

Here is a link to the website

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm

It is in English as well as German and a couple of other languages.

I recommend you contact them and tell them what you are looking for. I think they will be helpful. Sorry I have no specific recommendation as I have not been to KD in a while-Artemis eats up my mongering Euros these days.

Another agency I have had good results with is La Passion.

http://www.la-passion-escort.de/damen.html

You can read a review of Cindy (mine) a couple of pages back in this thread.

La Passion is cheaper than you mention but the three times I have used it's services I was satisfied.

Escorts, unless you go pretty high rent, tend to be a bit hit & miss in Berlin.

[Angus Magee]

Has anybody paid a recent visit to the Mon Rouge bordello in Charlottenburg? I had a glorious experience there last year and hope to give it another shot.

However I'm a bit reluctant simply because it appears that the same SP's have been on their website for years. I know for a fact that a few no longer work there. And while I had a fantastic session with Nicky, I also remember not recognizing any of the other girls present that night. None of which were nearly as hot as their website portrays.

I see that they even post a "new" girl (Celine) and I'm almost certain that she too has been on their site for at least a year.

Is it simply a case of poor website updating or a case of false advertising? They sure seemed repuatable when I was there last.

Any updates are greatly appreciated.

The Grand Wazoo

Hi,

My most recent visit was late spring this year and I had my session with Adriana who has a knock out body and face but is a bit lazy in the sack.

My feeling regarding the Mon Rouge website is that the are not actively dishonest (showing girls who are not there) but that they are just not very together with the website. And perhaps this amounts to the same thing.

I know Crissy (on the German version of the site but not the English version-not very together) is a very sweet girl and an enthusiastic, if somewhat cautious, performer. Trouble is she seems to go frequently back to her homeland (Bulgaria) and the website always lags a couple of months behind her actual schedule-not very together.

When I was a regular there, and I am no longer as I am more interested in the fun to be had at Artemis these days, I used to resign myself to just dropping by and seeing who was on offer. And I would usually have a back up plan in mind incase non of the girls interested me.

But if you do go please let us know how it turns out. I would be very interested in hearing a report on the new girl Jessika.

http://www.monrouge.de/jessika.html

AM

[Blue Swede]

I decided to give this place a check out.
Arrived on Friday at 21.30, i bit too early, as the guests were myself + 3 ladies. After some time/beers, things improved, but not that much really.
Tope score was 8-9 ladies.

The looks of the were not top scores. One of them looked slightly appealing to me and could be a choice for me (after some more beer?), but she was the first one to get snatched my a man.

Bottom line, there are much better places to go then Pssst.

[The Grand Wazoo]

Hi,

But if you do go please let us know how it turns out. I would be very interested in hearing a report on the new girl Jessika.

http://www.monrouge.de/jessika.html

AMWow, Jessika is fine indeed. Haven't had much luck however with Romanians but I'd have a hard time not to try out this one. Thanks Angus for your Mon Rouge perspective. I won't be coming to Berlin for 5-6 weeks but will visit MR and will report. Could be another Nicky encounter though quite possibly Jessika. And thanks for the cautionary advice regarding Adriana.

Do you recall what MR charges? In line with KD and royal I suspect?

The Grand Wazoo

[Tantriyogi]

Thank you for all good reports. I have been reading this forum (Berlin) the last year, and its great! :-) But even if I have been living in Berlin the last year I have only been at Salon Prestige meeting Marie, she was great good looking, smiling blond girl, but she is not there anymore. :-(

Do anybody know any nice Japanese girl in Berlin? Or have any experience at Event Massage on Torstrasse.

Like Eko? http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-Eko-22970.html

Thanks!

[Angus Magee]

Wow, Jessika is fine indeed. Haven't had much luck however with Romanians but I'd have a hard time not to try out this one. Thanks Angus for your Mon Rouge perspective. I won't be coming to Berlin for 5-6 weeks but will visit MR and will report. Could be another Nicky encounter though quite possibly Jessika. And thanks for the cautionary advice regarding Adriana.

Do you recall what MR charges? In line with KD and royal I suspect?

The Grand Wazoo

Hourly rates for MR are 130 euros. They have a weekday special of 100 Euros/hr. if you arrive and start the session before 16:00.

[Toscana]

Hi,

My most recent visit was late spring this year and I had my session with Adriana who has a knock out body and face but is a bit lazy in the sack.

My feeling regarding the Mon Rouge website is that the are not actively dishonest (showing girls who are not there) but that they are just not very together with the website. And perhaps this amounts to the same thing.

I know Crissy (on the German version of the site but not the English version-not very together) is a very sweet girl and an enthusiastic, if somewhat cautious, performer. Trouble is she seems to go frequently back to her homeland (Bulgaria) and the website always lags a couple of months behind her actual schedule-not very together.

When I was a regular there, and I am no longer as I am more interested in the fun to be had at Artemis these days, I used to resign myself to just dropping by and seeing who was on offer. And I would usually have a back up plan in mind incase non of the girls interested me.

But if you do go please let us know how it turns out. I would be very interested in hearing a report on the new girl Jessika.

http://www.monrouge.de/jessika.html

AMAngus,

do these MR girls tend to kiss? I read another good report on Crissy, but no mention of DFK.

[Angus Magee]

Angus,

do these MR girls tend to kiss? I read another good report on Crissy, but no mention of DFK.

It depends. With me Crissy would kiss but only if I paid her (20 euros I think-outrageous) and I ponied up the cash once as she has such beautiful full lips-both sets. But her kissing was uninspired at best. Maybe someone a little younger who inspired her more would get a better performance.

I may have given GW the wrong impression about Adriana. She is a fine girl-she must have something as I repeated with her about 10 times over the course of about 6 months. And with her she would not kiss for the first couple or three sessions. Then one day she started to kiss and at no extra charge. This is the type of kissing I like. And maybe that is what kept me going back for more.

But I also found her kind of moody. At best she was a girl to whom you had to give a bit of direction-nothing wrong with that. But then a couple of times she seemed to me to be in a big rush-plans after work or something-and then her service went to shit.

And Nicky has to be one of the top PSEs I have had in my life. She loves to perform for herself in the mirror and gets really dirty in doing it. But as I remember no kisses were really offered, or asked for.

So to answer your question, do they kiss, I would have to say generally not unless you become a regular (Adriana) or sweeten the deal (Crissy).

[Toscana]

It depends. With me Crissy would kiss but only if I paid her (20 euros I think-outrageous) and I ponied up the cash once as she has such beautiful full lips-both sets. But her kissing was uninspired at best. Maybe someone a little younger who inspired her more would get a better performance.

I may have given GW the wrong impression about Adriana. She is a fine girl-she must have something as I repeated with her about 10 times over the course of about 6 months. And with her she would not kiss for the first couple or three sessions. Then one day she started to kiss and at no extra charge. This is the type of kissing I like. And maybe that is what kept me going back for more.

But I also found her kind of moody. At best she was a girl to whom you had to give a bit of direction-nothing wrong with that. But then a couple of times she seemed to me to be in a big rush-plans after work or something-and then her service went to shit.

And Nicky has to be one of the top PSEs I have had in my life. She loves to perform for herself in the mirror and gets really dirty in doing it. But as I remember no kisses were really offered, or asked for.

So to answer your question, do they kiss, I would have to say generally not unless you become a regular (Adriana) or sweeten the deal (Crissy).Thanks for that. Both Adriana and Chrissy (plus Jasmin) will probably be there tomorrow at about the time I can make it there, so I might just go and see if I can bend them the way I want. If not, no harm done. I'll let you know if I do.

[Angus Magee]

Thanks for that. Both Adriana and Chrissy (plus Jasmin) will probably be there tomorrow at about the time I can make it there, so I might just go and see if I can bend them the way I want. If not, no harm done. I'll let you know if I do.

Have fun-Adriana can be a real sweet heart if you get her on a good day. And she has a beautiful body-very curvy-and face.

And as I remember it Crissy while not the most enthusiastic kisser was very receptive to DATY. And as I say her pussy lips are full and slippery when wet.

[Angus Magee]

Thank you for all good reports. I have been reading this forum (Berlin) the last year, and its great! :-) But even if I have been living in Berlin the last year I have only been at Salon Prestige meeting Marie, she was great good looking, smiling blond girl, but she is not there anymore. :-(

Do anybody know any nice Japanese girl in Berlin? Or have any experience at Event Massage on Torstrasse.

Like Eko? http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-Eko-22970.html

Thanks!

While I am not 100% sure I think Marie has moved over to Liberty, SPs' sister bordello in Schöneberg, and goes by Maria.

http://www.libertyberlin.de/maria.htm

I saw her once in SP and while not overly enamored with her she is a competent provider.

Sorry-no experience with any Japanese girls. IME "Japanese" girls usually aren't-Japanese that is.

[Gearmen]

Rocketboys suggestion is not a bad one ( re Artemis) but maybe you do not have the time or the inclination for such festivities? For 360 Euros you can have a pretty good time at Artemis.

Anyway, as for escorts, for the price you mention and becuase you may only be in town for a short time and do not have time to shop around, I would have to recommend Kamila Dee outcall service.

If you have spent much time reading the forum you will know that IMO this is the best bordello in Berlin (over all) and the service you receive would almost certainly be good.

Here is a link to the website

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm

It is in English as well as German and a couple of other languages.

I recommend you contact them and tell them what you are looking for. I think they will be helpful. Sorry I have no specific recommendation as I have not been to KD in a while-Artemis eats up my mongering Euros these days.

Another agency I have had good results with is La Passion.

http://www.la-passion-escort.de/damen.html

You can read a review of Cindy (mine) a couple of pages back in this thread.

La Passion is cheaper than you mention but the three times I have used it's services I was satisfied.

Escorts, unless you go pretty high rent, tend to be a bit hit & miss in Berlin.Thank u very much Angus for your info, i have tried Kamilla.dee agency and i had a very nice time with Stella, very petite girl.

Agency service was very good for time and help on the choice.

Gear

[Angus Magee]

Thank u very much Angus for your info, i have tried Kamilla.dee agency and i had a very nice time with Stella, very petite girl.

Agency service was very good for time and help on the choice.

Gear

I am glad that things worked out well for you.

Just out of curiosity-how much did you pay & for how long?

Was the transport included or did you have to pay an extra taxi fee?

[Gearmen]

I am glad that things worked out well for you.

Just out of curiosity-how much did you pay & for how long?

Was the transport included or did you have to pay an extra taxi fee?Hi,

Fees was 360 for 2 hour with transport included.

Iask for 10.15 pm and she knock on the dorr at that time!

Gear

[Member #4330]

I have an upcoming work trip to Berlin which will leave me a couple of days free for punting. I have the option of staying in Berlin and checking out the FKK's and other clubs, or hopping on a train to Poznan or Wroclaw.

I speak enough Polish to discuss prices etc. intelligently, and am intrigued by the stories I've heard of 100 PLN girls there. However Berlin seems it could also be good, although I'd expect more expensive (maybe I'm wrong).

Can anyone provide some suggestions as to what would be the better option, in terms of service quality and economy?

Thanks in advance!

[Angus Magee]

I have an upcoming work trip to Berlin which will leave me a couple of days free for punting. I have the option of staying in Berlin and checking out the FKK's and other clubs, or hopping on a train to Poznan or Wroclaw.

I speak enough Polish to discuss prices etc. intelligently, and am intrigued by the stories I've heard of 100 PLN girls there. However Berlin seems it could also be good, although I'd expect more expensive (maybe I'm wrong).

Can anyone provide some suggestions as to what would be the better option, in terms of service quality and economy?

Thanks in advance!


I would say it depends upon your sense of adventure and how important is the financial end of things.

Certainly here in Berlin you will be able to find a variety of ladies, even specifically Polish ladies if that is what you seek. But you are right, it will be a bit pricier.

I have not visited Warsaw but can well imagine that you might have to search a bit harder and be prepared to take a hit or two in terms of the ladies being not what you expect.

I myself know that there is something to be said for the thrill of the search. But then you never really know what you are going to get and many time end up spending more than if you had gone for a sure thing in the first place.

Maybe I am just getting older and less into the search but I find myself more and more going for the comfort of an establishment like Artemis. Here the ladies have been gathered into one spot and at least partly "screened" so you have a better chance of finding a good experience.

But I do admire those who go out in the field and break their own trail.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

[Hektor T]

I have an upcoming work trip to Berlin which will leave me a couple of days free for punting. I have the option of staying in Berlin and checking out the FKK's and other clubs, or hopping on a train to Poznan or Wroclaw.

I speak enough Polish to discuss prices etc. intelligently, and am intrigued by the stories I've heard of 100 PLN girls there. However Berlin seems it could also be good, although I'd expect more expensive (maybe I'm wrong).

Can anyone provide some suggestions as to what would be the better option, in terms of service quality and economy?


Berlin is good, but if you're looking for beautiful girls it is not cheap. Berlin has lots of mediocre looking girls in the 100€/hour price range. There are occasionally really nice looking girls in places like Liberty giving good performances, but it doesn't take long until the word gets out and they are fully reserved in advance. If they get smart they move up to a higher priced gig.

So to get a really nice girl looking girl you have to get lucky in the Liberty/KD category of clubs, go to Artemis (80€ entry + 60€/30min ) or pay 200€/hour for a really pretty escort who probably had no other clients that day and maybe has no other sexual outlet, so she puts in a little bit extra. But if you find the cheaper girl in a club you can rest assured that she is getting pounded 5-10 times every day, but maybe is still a good performer.

For a different class of girl you can go to Villa Rascona, or maybe Bel Ami and pay 200-300€ and make a nice evening of it with a pretty or better looking girl that you might also run into in an upscale dance club or cocktail bar.

If you are adventurous and explore all the little strip bars/clubs you can still find a really nice girl for 100€/hour, who is not trying to get rich, but just pay the bills. So she is not meeting so many guys and is a lot more willing when she does. But you'll probably have to see 3-4 bad places before you find anything worth writing home about so in the end you aren't saving money unless you continue to meet her. But you can sure have fun! I'm relatively adventurous so I've explored a lot of those places in Berlin and I write about them on here a lot so look at my old posts.

Poland is something completely different. Especially in Warsaw, really pretty girls everywhere. You will find some 100zl/30min for sure if you look around on the net. But in that price range they don't speak English usually. For clubs it could run you more, but it might be the safer bet. I haven't been there for awhile, but I'm always planning a return trip, so I check the prices sometimes.

Just to give you an idea, the first time i was in Poland it was about 6 years ago and I went to Krakow. I got some addresses off here, saw some clubs during the afternoon and wasn't too impressed. So later that night, at around 2AM in a discotheque I saw one tall red head girl from the small club with a hot blond who turned out to be sister. She recognized me and said something to the blonde, but she couldn't speak English at all, and the redhead only the basics, so i said 200zl, 2 girls, 2hours. They thought it was a fortune so we went back to my hotel and we had a nice night! At that time 200zl was about 60€. In Warsaw it was not hard to meet them in bars, so I didn't try the escorts.

If you haven't seen Berlin it's worth visiting for awhile, because by the time you pay to travel to Warsaw or Poznan you'll have used up a lot of your price savings unless you plan on getting a few escorts. In Poland on the other hand, it's fun to go out in the clubs too because they're full of hotties.

[Bobo.fr]

Is Artemis the only "house" that proposes sauna in Berlin ?

[Angus Magee]

Is Artemis the only "house" that proposes sauna in Berlin ?

Not quite sure what you mean here Bobo. Please clarify the question.

There are other establishments that have sauna ( massage, sauna clubs both sex oriented & just plain sauna) but none that I can whole heartedly recommend.

[Member #4330]

Hektor, Angus -

Thanks very much for taking the time for these detailed replies - I am thinking of taking the plunge for Poland, since I speak enough Polish to get by (learned from expat Poles in America) and I can probably grab a cheap flight to Warsaw.

Still intrigued by Berlin, but Poland has been kind of a dream of mine fuelled by sites like odloty.pl and roksa.pl

Will post my experiences in a few weeks when I make the trip.

[Bobo.fr]

Not quite sure what you mean here Bobo. Please clarify the question.

There are other establishments that have sauna ( massage, sauna clubs both sex oriented & just plain sauna) but none that I can whole heartedly recommend.

Thanks Angus,

Actually, I like sauna and beautiful ladies.
OK, Artemis proposes that but I'm looking for other "houses".

In Den Haag (The Hague/Netherlands), in the past, "La Chaperonne" had "sauna" and we could ask for it with a minimum of 3 hours meeting. (as if Kamilla-Dee has an option to get a meeting with sauna at Blissestraat).

Regards

[Angus Magee]

Thanks Angus,

Actually, I like sauna and beautiful ladies.
OK, Artemis proposes that but I'm looking for other "houses".

In Den Haag (The Hague/Netherlands), in the past, "La Chaperonne" had "sauna" and we could ask for it with a minimum of 3 hours meeting. (as if Kamilla-Dee has an option to get a meeting with sauna at Blissestraat).

Regards

Hi,

Well as far as I know there is nothing of the same quality as KD also offering sauna. As I mention there is at least one sauna club as I seem to remember visiting it some years back. All I can really remember is that it was in Charlottenburg and that the girls were surly, not particularly attractive and aggressively tried to up sell me at every turn. And the place was in such disrepair that it would not have surprised me if the sauna did not even work.

But it was called a sauna club...

As for Artemis, I think you have been there so I am guessing that you know that the sauna is somewhere the girls will not generally go when working. Certainly not for a session. I think it would ruin their carefully applied make up. I am not even sure that they are allowed to go in the sauna except at the end of their shift when no longer working.

One place you might consider is Harmoniemassagen.

http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/

I have never been there but it always gets good reports on the German forums and as you can see some of the girls are quite nice. But....it is strictly massage with hand (or maybe breast?) release. No oral or full service is offered. At least if the website is to be believed.

Unless anyone has any other information these are the only options that I know of in Berlin for sex in the sauna.

[Angus Magee]

Hektor, Angus -

Thanks very much for taking the time for these detailed replies - I am thinking of taking the plunge for Poland, since I speak enough Polish to get by (learned from expat Poles in America) and I can probably grab a cheap flight to Warsaw.

Still intrigued by Berlin, but Poland has been kind of a dream of mine fuelled by sites like odloty.pl and roksa.pl

Will post my experiences in a few weeks when I make the trip.

And as I say, if you have that adventurous spirit you may as well go to the source.

I look forward to you posts and will keep an eye on the Warsaw & other Polish threads.

[Angus Magee]

For those that remember her from a time back, Ramona has surfaced back here in Berlin with a new agency.

http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-ramona.html

She was a very good session as I remember. There are a couple or so reports somewhere back in the thread.