Berlin

[Angus Magee]

looks like They change the URL, go here

http://www.la-passion-escort.eu

This new La Passion (la passion.eu as opposed to la passion.de) has, it appears, nothing what so ever to do with the La Passion escort service of Berlin. This looks to be an indy escort who is not even based in Berlin, but in Essen.

The Berlin agency La Passion has changed its' name to Ophelia Escorts as mentioned in a post below. Not sure why they changed the name. That is often done when a place gets a really bad reputation. But, IME, this agency is one of the better small agencies in Berlin. At least I have always been satisfied with their service if you read my posts.

AM

[Bbullersen]

Maybe you are talking about the Hautnah/Bitchclub agency? They had a small number of Romanian girls who were, for the most part, excellent performers. Back in the forum you will find a number of glowing reports.I found a cached version of their website (allthough without the pictures), and it seems that I indeed was one of them I had a visit from about 2 years ago.

I know it was probably a longshot, I will probably just stick to Artemis anyway. Plans have changed slightly which also means that I can't go mongering all the time after all.

Thanks to the other guys with suggestions for websites that I can use in my research, none of them really matches up with the Hamburger site, allthough there are a gem or two hiding around I believe.

Thanks,

Peter

[Lucknow]

You had the right address but La Passion has changed its' name to Ophelia Escort.

http://ophelia-escort.de/index.php?module=Pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=10012&pid=1

Same girls though the line up looks a little scarce.Thanks Angus and others. GIven the time I have in berlin and location I have narrowed choices to liberty and monrouge.

One newbie detail question I have is about entrance to these places. When I google monrouge, it seems a pub as well as hotel are in the same location similarly liberty bldg seems to have dentists etc.

Can someone help me what the entry detail is. Is there a well marked sign and door around the building or you have to call the telephone number from downstairs and somebody comes to get you (for monrouge and liberty)

Thanks in anticipation

[Angus Magee]

Thanks Angus and others. GIven the time I have in berlin and location I have narrowed choices to liberty and monrouge.

One newbie detail question I have is about entrance to these places. When I google monrouge, it seems a pub as well as hotel are in the same location similarly liberty bldg seems to have dentists etc.

Can someone help me what the entry detail is. Is there a well marked sign and door around the building or you have to call the telephone number from downstairs and somebody comes to get you (for monrouge and liberty)

Thanks in anticipation


Hi,

Like most-all actually-bordellos in Berlin both these places are located in building that house other businesses. So you go to the address, find the buzzer with the name of the bordello and press the buzzer. You wait a few seconds and are buzzed in. Then you find the door which is the entrance (differs with every bordello but generally they are on a lower floor) and again press a buzzer to be let in. It is a remarkably simple procedure.

I guess the one thing that could be uncomfortable for some is that as they are in the same building as other business, depending on time of day, you are likely to run into others on the stairs etc.. All I can say is have no fear-chances are these folks are either a) mongers like yourself or b) visiting the dentist. If b) then likely they do not know that there is a bordello there. And if they do, not much you can do about it. People here are generally accepting of these things and Germans are far too polite to yell out to you on the stairs if they think you are going to a bordello. In short, it will seem much more obvious to you than it will anyone else, where you are going and what you are going to do.

The only time I have had anything weird happen is in Neuköln going into La Dolce Vita. This bordello is in a building that is otherwise residential. As I was ringing the bell a group of young Turkish guys came up behind me. They knew what I was up to and started to sort of harass me verbally in German. I just put my head down and headed in to the door which luckily opened quickly.

This is the one and only time I have ever had anything happen that was the least bit embarrassing entering a bordello. And as I say, it was in a residential building which is definitely the exception.

AM

PS-Liberty is in a block with a number of sex related businesses. The buzzer is clearly marked as Liberty and the bordello is two floors up.

Mon Rouge is in an old stately building (no pub as far as I remember, there is one on the corner a couple of store down) and the buzzer is marked Mon Rouge. The bordello is one floor up on the left as you reach the top of the stairs.

The only bordello you really have to read the web page is Kamilla Dee. There the buzzer is marked Text & Form, not Kamilla Dee. Not sure why this is

[Angus Magee]

For those who are interested, Klein Zierlich is back on line and back from "urlaub" with a few new girls. Well, in truth two are from the old Hautnah agency, Miky & Claudia.

http://www.klein-zierlich.de/index.html

Both these girls have had good reports in the past on the forum when they were with Hautnah. But be warned, the pics, at least of Miky, are from a couple of years back. And both girls have been coming to Berlin to work escort for several years now. So they are not young sweet fresh teenys as is suggested in the ad. But then if past performance is to be trusted, they were both good providers.

AM

[Boofer]

Is there a red light district in Berlin ? I will go to Artemis but want another venue and don't have a car so appreciate an area of condensed workers and providers.

[Angus Magee]

Is there a red light district in Berlin ? I will go to Artemis but want another venue and don't have a car so appreciate an area of condensed workers and providers.There is no real red light district in Berlin, that is a small concentrated area as you find in Frankfurt. The bordellos/kinos/clubs are spread pretty much throughout Berlin with a heavier concentration in certain areas. If you are staying in Wilmersdorf / Charlottenberg then you will be close walking or transit distance to many of the better & higher priced places. But there are also in this area a selection of less expensive places. Most of these places can be found (short description + contact details) in my Berlin bordello guide.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=975156&postcount=1936

Berlin is a very easy city to get around in by transit. Here is the BVG website with which to plan trips.

http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/index.html

AM

[Txl Muc]

Angus, thanks for the heads up.

Had Madelaine for a longer session. She has pleasant to be with, sexy and overall I did find Klein-Zielich a great replacement for B'Club (née Hautnah). I might ask Simona over and post a longer review after that, time permitting...

Without wanting to cause some sort of early eleventh hour panic - the girls will stay for 2 or 3 months only.



For those who are interested, Klein Zierlich is back on line and back from "urlaub" with a few new girls. Well, in truth two are from the old Hautnah agency, Miky & Claudia. ...

AM

[Guntherus]

Is there a red light district in Berlin ? I will go to Artemis but want another venue and don't have a car so appreciate an area of condensed workers and providers.There is Kurfurstenstrasse. Better go there in a car :)

[Boofer]

There is no real red light district in Berlin, that is a small concentrated area as you find in Frankfurt. The bordellos/kinos/clubs are spread pretty much throughout Berlin with a heavier concentration in certain areas. If you are staying in Wilmersdorf/Charlottenberg then you will be close walking or transit distance to many of the better & higher priced places. But there are also in this area a selection of less expensive places. Most of these places can be found (short description + contact details) in my Berlin bordello guide.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=975156&postcount=1936


Berlin is a very easy city to get around in by transit. Here is the BVG website with which to plan trips.

http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/index.html

AM


Thanks s Angus, this is extremely useful......

have anybody tried those agencies

http://www.escortmodelle24.de/
or
http://www.sexy-girls-berlin.de/gallery_e.html

looking forward to Berlin

[Lucknow]

Does anyone have any experience with Adventure-escort.com

They seem to have some knockouts in berlin like

http://www.adventure-escort.com/escort-berlin-valerie-de-115.html

But are expensive.

Any info appreciated

[Angus Magee]

There is Kurfurstenstrasse. Better go there in a car :)



This area is not really what I would call a RLD. It is a street prostitution area. Aside from the fact that i do not recommend street action (for various reasons but most of all you can get better for very little more than you pay on the street) this area is an option. And you do not really need a car. There are hour hotels in the area that provide the girls short term rentals. I also think that you can use the big LSD film sex shop on the corner that has sex film booths for bjs.

But it is all very seedy. And it is a bit of a rough area of town. I personally have never felt threatened walking through even late at night, but I guess the possibility of trouble exists.

You would also have to deal with the language issues. Some girls might speak a bit of English but many do not even speak German past telling you the prices.

[Angus Magee]

Does anyone have any experience with Adventure-escort.com

They seem to have some knockouts in berlin like

http://www.adventure-escort.com/escort-berlin-valerie-de-115.html

But are expensive.

Any info appreciated

Hi,

Yes some nice looking girls. But way over priced. I think if you look you can find the same quality girls, and in some cases even the same girls, for less money. 400 euros/hour? plus extras!!! You would have to have way more money than brains to go for this "deal".

IMHO of course.

[Mass Monger]

I am going to Berlin next week and will spend most of my mongering time at Artemis and some of the recommended bordellos. However I am intererested in trying out one of the famous Berlin Kinos.

Which Kinos are the best? Can you share any of your experiences?

I promise to write a report on my travels. I usually do when I go abroad to seek the broads.

Thanks,

Mass Monger

[Angus Magee]

I am going to Berlin next week and will spend most of my mongering time at Artemis and some of the recommended bordellos. However I am intererested in trying out one of the famous Berlin Kinos.

Which Kinos are the best? Can you share any of your experiences?

Kinos are not really my thing at the moment but you will find what experiences I do have back in the forum. I know it is a bit of work but if you really have the interest....

And here is a link to my report from 1.5 years back listing massage,clubs & kinos. I think most of the kino info is still relevant.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776559&postcount=1000

AM

[Severin Carl]

I didn't go to Berlin for quiete a while, but next week I will be there. So I had a look on different web-sides. What I found (www.Berlinintim.de) was announcements from an establishment called Mr. Jones. It is far away from the center, but they show very interesting pictures of very beautyful girls. Of course, this may be fakes. Has somebody been there allready?. Have a good time.

SC

[Hektor T]

Does anyone have any experience with Adventure-escort.com

They seem to have some knockouts in berlin like

http://www.adventure-escort.com/escort-berlin-valerie-de-115.html

But are expensive.

Any info appreciated

I agree these look very good! I haven't seen this site before but the escort agencies I''ve tried are below:

Escort IN
www.escort-in.de/
This one is good and reliable. OK service, probably on any given day only one or two girls available. 1hr 220€ The one i met was much better looking than the photos, very active and offered owo and extra ball (i.e. after the first time she said, "i want more"). 24yo not much experience in the sack. She arrived exactly at the requested time (I booked her twice) and claimed I was her 3rd escort client and she had only started 3 weeks before. But she gets a 1/10 for discretion because I saw her out in a chicki micki club, rather she saw me when i was with two very nice looking friends who are girls, and when i didn't notice her she stopped me from behind when we were walking out of the room to ask if i was "with friends or escorts", she said "they are friends right?" So I'm still asking myself, what is that? jealous? psycho? So after that I didn't book her anymore.

She only gets a 1 rather than a 0/10 on discretion/professionalism because she at least waited until they were walking ahead of me to stop me. While she looked better in person than the photos, when she was dressed up to go clubbing she looked even better still. So i give her 9/10 for looks, 8/10 for performance (because she was a true GFE, sex hungry, deep kissing, owo, very enthusiastic about offering every position) and 1/10 for professionalism

Nude Escort
www.nude-escort.de
Good looking girls on the website, most not German, Russian management. Had a bad experience with them as the girl told the agency she saw somebody coming out of an apartment a few floors below me, thought he was the client and said he was too old. The agency apologized but thought it was normal that she didn't want to meet somebody old and refused to believe it wasn't me. Also services promised on the phone didn't agree with what is written on the web and they seems to have a lot of reviews on some sites like qype or google maps but they are almost the only agency with any reviews, so maybe they wrote them. The girl i saw getting back in the car from my window was quite good looking, so it might be worth a try if you have extra time for goatshit and excuses. Also 200€/1 hour, but if they add on 20€ for taxi it's the same as Escort IN.

Berlin Beauties
www.berlin-beauties.de
I decided to try a low end bargain agency to replace my lost 100€/hr kijiji girl. And this one fit the bill because it seemed to have real photos and cost 90€/hour. So if you look at the website you can see that the girls have photos but you can never see the face. I didn't really worry about that, because for this price if they are showing a beautiful girl I don't think I would get her anyway. So I picked one and she showed up early with a big smile and an average face. She was Polish and all in all she was fun and interesting to talk to and when she took off her clothes she had a 10/10 perfect body and a 5.5/10 face. But was also great in the bed let's say 8/10, so for 90€ I would get her again. (i gave her 100 because i didn't have change and she wanted to give me back 10, not really expecting a tip). Even if I give her the same sex rating as I give the Escort IN girl, the Polish was more like physical sex and the Escort IN more like Hungry passion. They were both 24yo, but the Polish was much more skilled in the sack, doing timid kissing with tongue and owo (both supposedly at her discretion - she asked me if i wanted owo). She left at 60minutes on the dot because she said she had to go meet another client.

The second time I tried Berlin Beauties was last night and the first girl was not available and out of town supposedly and it sounded like only 2 or 3 out of the whole agency were available. When I asked when Julia would be available she said, I don't know, one month, one week? She sent photos but never started working. So i chose another. She was really a 90€ girl. And other than the color of the hair I can't say there was any resemblance to the photos. I would give her 4/10 for the face and 6/10 for the body. So I kept her because it was only 90€, but she was certainly the worst girl I ever paid, falling into the "if she asked me to take her home i would say no" category. Anyway the sex experience matched the physical experience and I let her go after 30min talking and 15 in the bed. I only talked to her so long first because I correctly guessed that was where the greatest value was.

This agency is the same as luxus-waehlen.de and supposedly (according to the first girl i met) some girls work in both with the difference that booking from one site will cost you 180€ and the other 90€. I think the reality is that if luxus waehlen doesn't have any girls, they will try to send you one of the better looking polish girls from the berlin-beauties agency, because neither one ever seems to have more than one or two girls available.

Comparison:
So all in all, the berlin-beauties experience cost me 190€ for one good lay and a bad memory. Escort In cost me 220€ for a memorable lay (so i did it twice). Which is worth more? For me Escort IN! The only interest in the 90€ agency is that if you can find a keeper you can keep booking her and save a lot of money. But you can also do that with the VIP girl if you get her number and she doesn't turn out to be a jealous psycho. Unfortunately if you are just in town for a few days, neither of these follow-up plans are an option. So you have to decide which mix of quality/convenience/reliability makes sense to you.

Just writing this whole experience because in my experience, the Escort IN girl, if I had met her for the first time in the bar and managed to go out with her, would have ended up costing me at least 500EUR to go out with before I could get sex with her. So guys who are used to getting this sort of girl in a bar, club, etc. And assuming they can, are just paying more or less the same price but saving some time. When you just want to get a girl quick, you can do the 90€ thing, but you also might end up getting 2 or 3 before you are satisfied. from my experiences i've had very few to zero unsatisfactory experience with the higher priced escorts. The Nude escort story above is really the only bad one. Is it a waste of money? Some guys who go to Artemis are staying in a youth hostel and some in a four star hotel. Some guys drive a volkswagen and some drive a Bentley. Some pay 500€/hr for an escort and some pay 60€/hr. So in the end people are going to choose what they are comfortable with.

So I would go for the Adventure Escorts sometime I think. The price for most of them is 250€/hour and there is one on there who looks like Claire in Lost, and another in Postdam who is the most expensive at 300€/hour who also looks like she's worth a try. If I had skipped the 2nd berlin "beauty", I could get the Potsdam hottie for an effective price of 200€. There's a lesson in there somewhere!

[Angus Magee]

Hi Hektor,

Thanks for the report on higher end agencies in Berlin. Always good to know this stuff even if I myself will never use the info-or should I say it is unlikely.
In the end It does come down to how much we are willing/able to pay. I am sure that there are many guys out there who do not blink at the 250-300 euro per hour price tag. But in the end it always comes down to did you have a good time with the girl. In my experience price is not always a good indicator for this.

As for the site, Adventure Escorts, I can assure you that there is at least one girl on there charging 250+extras (and probably taxi) who can be had for much less. And she is a very nice girl both physically & personality. I am guessing that the realities of the higher end (for the girls) are that there are not as many men willing to pay 250+/hr. as there are men willing to pay 120. So the girls advertise different rates on different site and see who bites.

But then one needs to have the time & the inclination to figure out which girls are which on which ads. Not so easy really and it is often just through dumb luck that one figures it out. One trick that I use is to put the phone number given through google to see what turns up.

Anyway I do appreciate the report and if you want some more info on the girl I am speaking of you can pm me. I do not want to share the info in the open forum as I know the girl and like her. I will not blow her cover here. But for an obviously experienced & sophisticated monger such as yourself, one who has made a good contribution to the forum, I will share the info.

AM

[Angus Magee]

I didn't go to Berlin for quiete a while, but next week I will be there. So I had a look on different web-sides. What I found (www.Berlinintim.de) was announcements from an establishment called Mr. Jones. It is far away from the center, but they show very interesting pictures of very beautyful girls. Of course, this may be fakes. Has somebody been there allready?. Have a good time.

SC

http://www.mrsjones-berlin.de/

First, I have never been to this place so all my info comes from reading the German boards.

This place opened up sometime last summer. When they opened the prices were on the high side (comparable to KD & VK) but then they dropped as the market would not support the price tag. Now the prices are in line with Liberty though still a little high for the half hour session.

As you mention, the location is a little out of the way requiring a fairly lengthy trip on the UBahn & bus. It is maybe 1-1.25 hours from the center of Berlin depending on how you make your connections.

Reports on the place seem to be mixed. I have read a number of not very good reviews and a couple of good ones. My observation is that the line up fluctuates. That is the girls do not seem to stay long. This indicates that there are problems with the place. One of the things I look for, trying to judge a bordello from the web site, is that the girls stick around. Happy girls, who are making money, do tend to give better sessions.

Hope this helps.

AM

[Charlie 123]

For those who are interested, Klein Zierlich is back on line and back from "urlaub" with a few new girls. Well, in truth two are from the old Hautnah agency, Miky & Claudia.

http://www.klein-zierlich.de/index.html

Both these girls have had good reports in the past on the forum when they were with Hautnah. But be warned, the pics, at least of Miky, are from a couple of years back. And both girls have been coming to Berlin to work escort for several years now. So they are not young sweet fresh teenys as is suggested in the ad. But then if past performance is to be trusted, they were both good providers.

AMAs you may recall, I 'did the tour' of the 2009 klein-zierlich contingent and posted my findings here.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=951846&postcount=1851

The girls were Ramona, Madeleine and Georgina at the time. I had a somewhat mixed experience. I would be interested to hear if anybody has tried out the 3 new girls (Micky, Simona, Claudia) and to know whether they can be recommended. If they had received a good rating from one of our guys here then I'd be happy to give them another try, but in the absence of a positive recommendation from someone else I'd be disinclined to experiment further with this agency.

Plz let us know, for good or for bad, if any of you decide to sample from the 2010 line-up

Thanks,

Charlie

[Hektor T]

Hi Hektor,

Thanks for the report on higher end agencies in Berlin. Always good to know this stuff even if I myself will never use the info-or should I say it is unlikely....if you want some more info on the girl I am speaking of you can pm me. I do not want to share the info in the open forum as I know the girl and like her. I will not blow her cover here. But for an obviously experienced & sophisticated monger such as yourself, one who has made a good contribution to the forum, I will share the info.

AM

Hi Angus, thanks for the offer.

I remember when I first started reading this forum you were saying that you didn't want to try Artemis because you might become hooked. ;-) But now you seem to be a big fan. I stopped going there because I realized that entrance + taxi + girl fee = 160€ minimum for 30 minutes. And that I could relax at home and get a VIP escort for a few euros more. So I'm convinced you will be converted here too. Anyway, for somebody who seems to be pretty dedicated in this area, it's definitely worth trying once.

[Ravein2]

Hi all!

Just a few words from my recent experiences in Berlin. In general my punting-scores was quite good, but not spectacular, this time around. Unfortunately a couple of the women on my "to do"-list were nowhere to be seen. But hey, that is of course a reason to check out some of the line-ups in the different houses.

First – Cat at Kamilla Dee's (http://www.kamilla-dee.com). I have not been too lucky with the line-ups at Kamilla's the last few times, with relatively few interesting women. But even in a short line-up there can be a few gems! And that was the case this afternoon, as Cat turned out to be a very nice encounter. A really beautiful girl, with a wonderful cuteness about her. I guess a "girl-next-door"-description is correct, in case your next door neighbor is hot/sweet! Cat was friendly, chatty, interesting and gave a great body-massage. The rest of the action was top-notch also, especially considering Kamilla Dee's policy of no OWO. All in all a great afternoon! And the general feeling of this venerable house always makes me feel relaxed.

Second – Jette at Royal (http://www.royalgirl.de). A surprisingly short line-up this day, but I think this was because it was busy as I heard several "noises" from the rooms around ours Luckily Jette was one of the ladies I was introduced to, and as I was in the mood for boobs the choice was easy. Jette is a beautiful young girl, with a great body. And BIG, beautiful naturals She was sweet, friendly and positive. Maybe the only real "problem" was that she spoke only german. And quickly. I had to ask her to repeat words, and talk slowly, a few times, but after all: this is not a big problem. Action-wise? Well, at first she was maybe a bit too interested in changing positions after just a short while in each, but we got into a nice rhythm soon enough, and after that I had a really nice time with her.

Third – Anais at Kamilla's. Ok, back in Blissestrasse, after the success with Cat two days earlier. Today's line-up was again a bit thin, and none of the women really hit the spot visually. It was a cold day, so instead of walking out I decided to try to go against my instincts and went with Anais. She looks really good, even if she is not my "normal" kind of girl. Her mood was good, even if she was maybe a bit "hyper" for my taste (I'm too old I guess). Talking, teasing, laughing she joked about how she must have had something weird for breakfast, as she was normally not so hyper on a normal day. And I believe that But don't get me wrong: she did not do or say anything wrong, we were just on very different energy levels that day so there was no real chemistry between us. She gave a good massage, and her covered O was really good. All in all it was a sub-par session, but it might have been better if I had had the same energy as her

Fourth – Yoko at Royal. Hmm it seems I only visited two of my "normal" joints this time Well, again the line-up was short but there were two or three really hot blonde chicks. But I was in the mood for asian this time, and luckily Yoko was there. I can get weak in the knees when I see a hot girl with long black hair, and this was the case this day. She's got a great body, with nice (fixed) ta-tas. Her performance was also top-notch, with a good OWO-session to kick things off, and a really energetic mix of positions after that. Yoko was always friendly and positive, maybe a bit "over-friendly" at times, but that is a lot better than under-friendly!

Ok, that was Berlin for this winter. I was a bit disappointed about the disappearance of a couple of my objects of desire, but I guess that is a risk of this hobby. Sometimes the girls find better things to do, than me I have not given up hope though, the homepages of several of the Berlin-houses are under my surveillance, and I will be back one day!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

[Charlie 123]

Second – Jette at Royal (http://www.royalgirl.de). A surprisingly short line-up this day, but I think this was because it was busy as I heard several "noises" from the rooms around ours Luckily Jette was one of the ladies I was introduced to, and as I was in the mood for boobs the choice was easy. Jette is a beautiful young girl, with a great body. And BIG, beautiful naturals She was sweet, friendly and positive. Maybe the only real "problem" was that she spoke only german. And quickly. I had to ask her to repeat words, and talk slowly, a few times, but after all: this is not a big problem. Action-wise? Well, at first she was maybe a bit too interested in changing positions after just a short while in each, but we got into a nice rhythm soon enough, and after that I had a really nice time with her.Many thx for the terrific report.

I am always 'in the mood for boobs', and from her pics this girl certainly seems to be particularly gifted in that department. I'd quite like to check her out; a couple of questions if I may?:-

1) Did she administer OWO?

2) Did she allude to 'special finishes' such as CIF or COB?

Thanks,

Charlie

[Ravein2]

Many thx for the terrific report.

I am always 'in the mood for boobs', and from her pics this girl certainly seems to be particularly gifted in that department. I'd quite like to check her out; a couple of questions if I may?:-

1) Did she administer OWO?

2) Did she allude to 'special finishes' such as CIF or COB?

Thanks,

CharlieHi Charlie,

1) Yes (an extra)

2) It was not an issue, so I can't say if it is possible

[Matt Andrews]

Hi,

Some help please?

I'm off to berlin this week, staying in Berlin=Prenzlauer Berg and would like some fun.

Are there any recommended places (not too pricey). Oral and anal would be good too! Not been to any brothels before, so somewhere which would welcome a newbie?!

Many thanks in advance, any help gratefully appreciated!

Matt

[Kristoffer]

Here is my first report.

I sent an email Sunday to book Kelly at 10 am on Friday, I got a response that it was okay and she would be there. I go on thinking all is as it should. Then comes Thursday night I check their homepage and all of a sudden she is no longer working on Friday. I check my email nothing from them about my appointment being cancelled.

I fly in and everything goes so smoothly so I'm there an hour ahead of my appointment. I walk around the area a little there are two hotels across the road.

When it's time I ring the bell and gets let in, after introduction I ask for Kelly And are told she is not working today and there are nothing about my appointment. I'm really disappointed, then the lady say there are only one girl working at this time. Anja comes in an introduce herself. I'm horny and ready to go so I agree to see her. In my mind I had decided on a one hour session so I stick to that.

The price I'm quoted are 120€.

We walk up the stairs and I take a shower. Then we lay on the bed with some neck kissing and nipple sucking, then she goes down on me and gives a short CBJ, then she climb on top of me and start riding, that's when the bed squeaks like crazy. After a few minutes we switch rooms. She gives a quick blow then climbs on again, and then I finish in doggy, I had it built up plus I tend to be quick on the first pop.

We talk a little then she gives me a soft none descript massage.

Time for round two, we start off with missionary then some riding and then back to doggy and I come again.

We chat a little then I want to go on the third round and she tells me only two pops in an hour session.

For Anja the plus for me was her breast that I thought was a nice handful. But she was a little over acting on her moans for my liking.

For Mrs Jones I've nothing positive to say, even less after coming home and checking their webpage and finding out that a one hour session with Anja cost 100€. As for the girls being there a short time, one reason could be that they live ells where and just come in and work for a week or two then go back home.

In conclusion for me, just stay away from this place.

Kriss

[Angus Magee]

Some help please?

Can I suggest you read the thread? including my Berlin Bordello guide.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=975156&postcount=1936

And if you have any further, more specific, questions feel free to ask.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Here is my first report.

Thanks for the report on Mrs. Jones. Your experience pretty much mirrors most of those which I have read on the German forums. I have the impression that this place is badly managed and so experiences can be good or bad, but mostly bad.

So thanks for taking one for the team. We all do that from time to time.

AM

[Lucknow]

My eventual trip to Berlin was cut short for various reasons. SO only had time to try one place. Hence decided to go to liberty. Arrived at around 11Am. The line up was impressive of about 8 girls for every taste. Could recognize several names from the forum, angelina, romy etc.

I wanted AV and FT but the house lady did not speak english , so she sent Cleo. Cleo told me that only her and Angelina were into it, but Angelina was busy (although she had just paraded in front of me).

Cleo seemed nice, not the hottest, but this was my only shot so took her. At the end I liked her quite a bit. She speaks good english and is easy to talk to. Biggest positive was that she was light on makeup and perfume, which is a big plus for me.

She provided good and unrushed service. Nice AV and finished with Ft for a total of 130. As mentioned she is not the best looker or the best body at liberty, but made my time in Berlin worthwhile.

Thanks to Angus and others for providing great info on the forum.

[Bearsk]

Lucknow
AV and FT stand for what?
BSK


My eventual trip to Berlin was cut short for various reasons. SO only had time to try one place. Hence decided to go to liberty. Arrived at around 11Am. The line up was impressive of about 8 girls for every taste. Could recognize several names from the forum, angelina, romy etc.

I wanted AV and FT but the house lady did not speak english , so she sent Cleo. Cleo told me that only her and Angelina were into it, but Angelina was busy (although she had just paraded in front of me).

Cleo seemed nice, not the hottest, but this was my only shot so took her. At the end I liked her quite a bit. She speaks good english and is easy to talk to. Biggest positive was that she was light on makeup and perfume, which is a big plus for me.

She provided good and unrushed service. Nice AV and finished with Ft for a total of 130. As mentioned she is not the best looker or the best body at liberty, but made my time in Berlin worthwhile.

Thanks to Angus and others for providing great info on the forum.

[Angus Magee]

Lucknow
AV and FT stand for what?
BSK


AV = Analverker, Anal Sex
FT = Französisch Total, bbbjcim

[Txl Muc]

As you may recall, I 'did the tour' of the 2009 klein-zierlich contingent and posted my findings here. The girls were Ramona, Madeleine and Georgina at the time. I had a somewhat mixed experience.

Thanks, Charlie

Charlie, I had sessions w/ both Simona and Madelaine

***Madelaine: afaik Hungarian, 21 yrs, a bit more suave manners, better technique, overall a bit more pleasant to be with. Things she says does not do: smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, use nail polish...

***Simona: afaik Romanian, 19 yrs, she feels a bit rougher and more unpolished, overall the wilder girl. Things she does: smoke cigarettes...

Both are really 'klein und zierlich' (i.e. petite). Madelaine has slightly bigger breasts. Both have extensions. Both have a teen feel about them.

I like both of them, and more so than my last session with Miki two or so yrs ago. If I had to chose, I'd go for Madelaine. I will try to write a longer report soon.

[Mass Monger]

I just came back from 5 fantastic days in Germany. I would like to thank all the people who posted information I used to decide where to go and what to do in Berlin and Frankfurt. I will post my experiences for the first 3 days here in the Berlin section. I will post the last 2 days in Frankfurt in the Frankfurt. When both are posted I will add email links between them.

Mass Monger

Berlin 1st Day

I arrived late in the day and had time only for one venue. I decided on King George FlatRate http://www.Bordell-grunewaldstrasse23. De/. Unfortunately I missed happy hour by ½ hour and had to pay 99 Euros entrance fee instead of the happy hour price of 79 Euros. This was still not bad since it included unlimited drinks and sex. There were 6 – 7 nice looking girls available and I was the only customer there. Later another customer was there. Evidently there was an important soccer game that evening so few people came. This was all the better for me.

1st girl I went with was short and a little thick in the middle with small breasts. She was very warm and friendly. She danced in front of me and made eye contact until I had to respond with conversation. She invited me to go to the back rooms with her. CBJ was done (that is all they do here, no BBBJ). She had a very warm juicy P sy, and was quite friendly. We made nice sex together.

I sat a while watching the girls dance and practice various dancing positions/moves. After a while Nikki from Rumania came up to me. She was very warm and friendly and we talked for quite a while and caressed shoulders, bodies, etc. Lightly. Finally I mentioned the room (Zimmer) and she went willingly. She was short, slim and had small but very nice boobs. We caressed and took our time. Very nice experience. She was very friendly. It was a GFE, although it was not an intense one. I definitely recommend Nikki.

After a very long time I moved from the dance area to the bar and started talking (in Spanish) to a girl from Spain. She was short, slim and very pretty with very nice boobs. She caressed me and was very friendly and we had a very nice conversation. Finally I suggested the Zimmer and she said yes, but why not with her and her friend who was coming back soon. I agreed. We continued to talk for a while. Her friend was Claudia from Austria. I had been eyeing her earlier and was very happy to go to the room with both of them. Claudia was pretty, fairly tall and slim with very nice, but small-medium breasts and long blond hair, very attractive and sexy. All 3 of us went to a room. We stripped down and played with each other for a while – no rush. Finally Claudia initiated a CBJ and I spent some time kissing and fondling the girl from Spain. Then they switched after changing the condom. Claudia and I kissed while the Spanish girl gave me a CBJ. Then Claudia moved down, upside down to me and (I think) stroked my organ while I did DATY on her, and the Spanish girl continued the CBJ. To be honest, I forgot the sequence and who exactly, did what to whom, but it was GREAT! Claudia pushed her pussy down in my face while the Spanish girl did a CBJ. She and I both greatly enjoyed the DATA. It was all very nice, but overwhelming. Then I fucked and kissed Claudia for a long time and we had a great time. She was in no hurry to leave and we stayed together for a long time.

Finally it was time to leave King George – My strength was exhausted. The best girls were Nikki and Claudia. I think of those two, Claudia was the best. She was probably 8 in looks and a 7-8 in performance (primarily because of the lack of a BBBJ). Otherwise it would have been a 9. King George was fantastic. (see 3ed day in Berlin for more on King George).

Berlin 2nd Day

I took the S-Bahn and went to FKK Artemis http://www.Fkk-artemis. De/ at night – arrived about 7 PM. The directions are given in many other posts.

It is a very large place with many women – upwards of 50 and also a lot of men. Probably since it was Saturday night. Most of them were very pretty and sexy. They all were cute and had great bodies. I observed that there were a lot of small-medium breasted girls and not an excess of surgically enhanced breasts, perhaps less than 25% were obviously enhanced. That was just fine with me. I would rather have small-medium real boobs that large hard silicone implants. After sitting for 3 minutes at the bar I was approached by Naomi from Jamaica, a tall very black girl. She stroked me and I could not resist. It was ok but nothing special. In fact, she slyly gave me a CBJ instead of the standard BBBJ. She should be avoided.

I came back to the bar/kino and general area. An outstandingly beautiful blond German girl sat down by me and we started to talk. She was so pretty that I immediately was on guard because very pretty girls often rush you and are not very friendly once you choose them. However, after a long conversation I concluded that she (Heidi from Dusseldorf) was probably for-real. I said that I liked kissing, she said that she did too and gave me a nice French kiss. One possible problem with our hooking-up I said, was that I liked "lecken" (DATY). She said that she did too. At that point, I was completely hooked. We went to a room, stripped and caressed and kissed, DFKs. She did a BBBJ for a very long time. I then did DATY also for a long time. She was very, very responsive to it. She then gave me another long BBBJ. Finally she mounted on top and we had fantastic sex for at least 10 minutes in that position. She could not stop and am positive that she had two or three orgasms. (I love it when that happens.) I then finished with missionary position. We stayed there for a long time just caressing each other with DFK frequently. This was GFE+. In looks she was a 10 and in performance she was a 10+. I don't like to give perfect scores, but she deserved every point. One problem for Mongers however, is that she will leave Artemis in two days (has left at the time of this post-early May 2010) for the Palace in Frankfurt, her usual FKK. By all means, look for her there.

After a while I went with Bianca from Moldavia. DFK and DATY and a very friendly disposition. I specified both in advance, and specified ½ hour, and she was in agreement. Sometimes girls will try to upgrade you to an hour for both of these, but you should just say no, ½ hour is all you can do. I never had a problem when I said that.

My final girl was Lucy, a Czech with very nice the boobs. Natural the boobs almost always sag a little. Artificial the boobs stick out straight. Her's were natural and she was also very pretty and sexy. Again I had no problem when I asked for kissing and DATY – instant agreement with no up-sell. I think that asking for both kissing and DATA is a good thing to do, even if you do not follow through with the DATY. It separates out the unfriendly girls from the friendly girls. This is just a thought, however. Do others agree or disagree?

Berlin 3ed Day

Liberty: http://www.Libertyberlin. De/index_2.html I heard good reports so I decided to go here at about noon. From a very nice line-up of 6 girls I chose Lucia from Valencia. –A young petite beautiful girl from Valencia Spain with almost perfect B-C breasts. But not only was she pretty, a solid 9 in looks, she was extremely friendly. After selecting her from the line-up of about 6 very nice girls I paid in advance 60 Euros for 30 minutes (it costs 40 Euros for 20 minutes). She greeted me in the room with the coffee that I ordered. She then gave me a warm deep French kiss and we rubbed bodies and caressed. We talked for a while and then stripped down. After leisurely caressing on the bed she asked if I wanted a CBJ or a BBBJ. I asked for the second which she performed admirably. I then proceeded with a leisurely DATY and she responded well but did not have an orgasm. She then mounted me and we fucked for 10 to 15 minutes. She came multiple times and would not stop humping me. I loved it and so did she. I really like it that way, obviously. Obviously her performance was also a solid 9, if not a 10. I highly, highly recommend her if she is still there.

Kino 26: http://www.Erotikkino26. De/home.html Dominicusstr 26. I decided to experiment with Berlin Kinos. They sounded kinky. I paid 5 Euros for the entrance and passed by 2 attractive but older, highly made-up Thai women maybe 35 years old but with nice figures. I was alone in a very small theater and one of the women named "En" (or Ann) asked me for my drink preference. She came back with the coke I ordered and sat by me, gently caressing my leg. She asked me if I wanted her company and quoted me a price of 30 Euros for oral in the theater and 60 Euros for sex in the adjacent room. I said that that was very expensive and proceeded to view the erotic scene for a while. She had a very nice body and in the dim light was very attractive/sexy. She then said 30 Euros for sex in the room. I said "without clothes" and she agreed. We then proceeded to the room, I paid her the money and she returned later. I had a very nice CBJ and decent F, k in two positions. I then got dressed and left. It was quite acceptable – not the kind of fantastic GFE experience I had just had with Lucia, but nice in a kinky kind of way.

I then turned the corner back to the U-Bahn stop and stopped in Paola's Sexkino http://paolas-sexkino. De/home.html which was near-by. In the theater I saw a very unattractive 45 year old Caucasian woman, but was greeted by a short, overweight Thai girl who brought me my drink and sat down by me. She caressed my leg and higher and asked if I wanted to have a BJ in the theater or sex in the room. I declined both and continued to watch the movie. After a while she gave-up and left. She was immediately replaced with a very pretty Thai girl in her twenties or early thirties named Gesha and after quick request from her and a quoted price of 30 Euros we went to a small, fairly clean, dark room and had a nice CBJ and a F k. I could not come again but faked it reasonably well. This was not wonderful sex but a very kinky encounter and this time the girl was quite young and pretty. The sex was mechanical as it was earlier in Kino 26 but thoroughly enjoyable.

In spite of the warning about the women in the Herz brothel being typical German Hausfraus, I decided to there because I was in Germany and it would be appropriate to fuck a German Hausfrau. It is a long, long walk from a U-Bahn station at the end of the line (Alte Mariendorf). I was given a line-up of three women. They were pretty bad except for a fairly attractive 35-40 year old that was slightly overweight, had a pleasant smile and had giant natural the boobs. She was a perfect example of what I wanted at that moment and just what I was looking-for. I selected her, but she came back and asked if I had made an appointment for her, which I had not. She said that she had an appointment in 15 minutes and thus could not service me. The others were so bad that I left and took a long walk back to the U-Bahn and went to King Georges (for the second time – see a previous post). I do not recommend Harz both for access and for the staff. If you want a Hausfrau, chose a closer venue.

I got to King Georges FlatRate in time for the 4 – 6 PM happy hour admission of 79 Euros and all you can drink and as many times as you want to go with the girls. I saw basically the same group of girls that I had seen two days before, except that one of my favorites, Claudia from Austria, was not there. There were 5 girls and me, and they were spending a lot of time with each other dancing on the stage and practicing new moves. Another one of my favorites from my previous visit, Nikki came up to me and we talked and caressed a while. I asked her about protocol since none of the other girls had approached me when I was there two days ago. She said that they all go to the rooms but generally need to be asked. They are available but will not usually approach you. The first one I asked was Alicia from Malaga, Spain. She was very young and I had only talked to her for a minute before I asked about going back to the rooms. She quickly agreed and we had a reasonable but fairly mechanical session CBJ and FK. The problem may have been that I had not chatted her up and we did not know each other before I requested the room. I then sat at the bar with the six girls nearby and Nikki asked if I wanted to dance. I did and we danced a great polka in front of the other girls. She said that polkas are popular in Rumania too, not just Poland. I also felt that by dancing, which was fun, I had sort of made friends with the other girls and appeared as a real and friendly person.

I tried to talk to another girl Sofia, from Rumania but she knew no German, English or Spanish. She was very attractive and she agreed to go the room. Obviously I could not "chat her up". We had a very nice, but silent time in the room including CBJ, DATY and 2 position FK. Back at the bar and the dancing area I had another beer. Nikki came over and stood by me. I proceeded to caress her shoulders, back and arms. She was very warm and friendly and I had a great time giving her a massage for 15 minutes or more. It was fun being friendly with her and her being so warm and responsive. She then danced on the stage, and I went to the room with Karina from Greece. Karina is very young and tall and animated and playful with all the other girls. We had a very good FK but no touching or licking down below. She did not want missionary position. She mounted me and we had a great session and I had a fantastic orgasm about 10 minutes after she mounted me. We cleaned up and left. Nikki was coming to the rooms as I was leaving. By this time I was too exhausted from encounters with six girls that day and I left and did not stay around for a seventh one with Nikki – perhaps it was a mistake, but who knows. I had had enough fun for one day.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

[Angus Magee]

Note that I have answered you here on the Berlin thread. You posted in the RoD thread which is reserved for note worthy reports of distinction.

Mostly I suggest you read the thread. All your questions are answered in the thread.

You might also check the Artemis thread. There was recently a discussion about hotels over there.

You might like to look here at my Berlin Brothel Guide.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=975156&postcount=1936


Prices. In Brothels seems to vary widely about 50Euro for 30 mins sound right?

50 euros is on the low end of the scale.


How about the prices in FKK clubs?

Well there is but one FKK in Berlin-Artemis. Prices are 80-entrance, 60 euros for the half hour, cim-50, anal, 100. Not cheap.


I speak no German. Problem?

Having no German can be a problem if you make it one. Otherwise it is an adventure. Certainly not everyone you run across in the Berlin bordello scene speaks English. But with a bit of creativity you can get by. I suggest that you at least learn the numbers and bring some paper & a pen. It helps when discussing prices.


Any advise / experiences most welcome.

Again-read the thread. I and others spend a great deal of time & effort writing there.

And let us just assume that you yourself will contribute as a way of paying back for the info you read here.

Have fun.

AM

[Angus Magee]

I just came back from 5 fantastic days in Germany. I would like to thank all the people who posted information I used to decide where to go and what to do in Berlin and Frankfurt. I will post my experiences for the first 3 days here in the Berlin section. I will post the last 2 days in Frankfurt in the Frankfurt. When both are posted I will add email links between them.

Great informative report MM!! I will post it to the RoD thread in a bit as it most certainly deserves to be enshrined there.

Too bad you did not read the Artemis thread before your trip to that establishment. You would certainly have been warned off Naomi before hand if you had. She is an example of the worst on offer at Artemis.

Thanks for taking the time to report.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Hi MM,

A quick question-you did not mention in your report about the two visits to King George if you were asked at any time to buy the girls drinks. I am wondering if this was never asked of you of if you simply did not include it in your report. One of the issues that tends to dissuade me from the flat rate type of club is this issue of being pestered to buy drinks for the girls. I do not mind buying drinks if it is my idea to do so. But being pressured into it...

Thanks. The King George does sound worth a visit from your description. Especially as I am at the moment a budget minded monger.

AM

[Drew 0303]

There is a lovely looking redhead named Jenny at this bordel; anyone try this place?

[Angus Magee]

There is a lovely looking redhead named Jenny at this bordel; anyone try this place?

Hi,

I have visited Celine 69. It is a small bordello but clean & well run. It is also on the inexpensive side-50 euros/half hour+extras. While I have no personal experience with Jenny I can say that she gets good reports on the German forums. It is said that she is an attractive, friendly and enthusiastic provider.

Please do write a report if you see her.

AM

[Andromach]

Next week I'll be in Berlin and found a girl on the web called Dione. The references on google indicate a real girlfriend experience. Does anyone has experience with this girl. The URL is www.berlin-escort-dione.com.

[Charlie 123]

There is a lovely looking redhead named Jenny at this bordel; anyone try this place?I have been here several times. I have seen a girl called Sina a few times with outstanding results. I have recommended here before on these pages. I also sessioned once with a Polish MILF whose name escapes me, and generally I liked this bordelle and would be happy to recommend it.

Good luck.

Charlie

[The AF]

Next week I'll be in Berlin and found a girl on the web called Dione. The references on google indicate a real girlfriend experience. Does anyone has experience with this girl. The URL is www.berlin-escort-dione.com.

Never had personal experience but from the pics I recognize where she also works or used to work: At an Escort Service called Girl Visit.

http://www.girlsvisit.de/modelle.html

She is either the same as ANGEL or one of the CLAUDIAS. Girl Visit looks well run but I have no idea about their actual ratings. Funny thing is, you can have a girl for 100 Euro per hour, while DIONE is charging 250 for the first hour.

Cheers,
The AF

P.S.: Anyone knows/tried SIEBEL at MAC??
http://www.erotische-modelle.de/siebel.html
Looks like a very hot piece of ass...

[Andromach]

Never had personal experience but from the pics I recognize where she also works or used to work: At an Escort Service called Girl Visit.

http://www.girlsvisit.de/modelle.html

She is either the same as ANGEL or one of the CLAUDIAS. Girl Visit looks well run but I have no idea about their actual ratings. Funny thing is, you can have a girl for 100 Euro per hour, while DIONE is charging 250 for the first hour.

Cheers,
The AF

P.S.: Anyone knows/tried SIEBEL at MAC??
http://www.erotische-modelle.de/siebel.html
Looks like a very hot piece of ass...Hi,

Thanks for the link to this agency. However I don't see the similarity directly with the blondines from this agency. Regarding Dione I thought it was 250 for 2 hours. But I presume you cannot help me whether she is any good. Do you know more about the girlsvisit agency?

[Angus Magee]

Recently Mass Monger visited the King George twice, reporting below his findings. The following is a short TV piece (in German) about the place. Funny to note the father and son visiting together. The family the mongers together...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk8Pvr9cHw4&feature=PlayList&p=B68A1BC3F12FC30F&index=0&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h20XXUF1Oag&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27hOSHC1FiM&feature=related

AM

[Tuxsmasher]

Recently Mass Monger visited the King George twice, reporting below his findings. The following is a short TV piece (in German) about the place. Funny to note the father and son visiting together. The family the mongers together...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk8Pvr9cHw4&feature=PlayList&p=B68A1BC3F12FC30F&index=0&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h20XXUF1Oag&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27hOSHC1FiM&feature=related

AMGotta love the german mentality and openess. It's all about family activities. Too bad they dont have BBBJ with the entry price, otherwise it looks okay to me. I'm predicting a next report on this club from Angus :)

[Angus Magee]

Hi,

Thanks for the link to this agency. However I don't see the similarity directly with the blondines from this agency. Regarding Dione I thought it was 250 for 2 hours. But I presume you cannot help me whether she is any good. Do you know more about the girlsvisit agency?


Well if you have read my ramblings here over the past few years you will know that my opinion of the Berlin escort scene is quite low. As I see it your choice ranges from paying more and being reasonably certain (but certainly not 100%) of a decent session, or paying less where it is a real crap shoot. That is you never know who will show up a the door and what her attitude will be.

This sector of the P4P market is just not very well serviced as I think there is little incentive to give good service. The punters keep on coming regardless of what they do.

As to the link you give & the girlvisit link-I have no info either from personal experience or from the German forums. But I do have pretty good intuition and this says-stay away. Neither one gives me a good feeling. But then this is just my intuition so take it as that and follow your own in this case.

As for escorts in Berlin-There are a few suggestions (& personal recommendations) in the thread if you care to read back a few pages. And I can also say that this lady, Rita, is getting some pretty good press on the German forums. It seems she is an indy who used to, a number of years back, work for the old Hautnah agency.

http://www.sexyrita.de/

The only trouble being that she is popular and apparently a bit difficult to book. That is you have to call early to get her.

AM

[Angus Magee]

I'm predicting a next report on this club from Angus :)


You may very well be right on the money here Tux. As I think I have mentioned I live right around the block from King George (about a 3-5 minute walk away) and may just have to check it out soon:)

AM

[Angus Magee]

Next week I'll be in Berlin and found a girl on the web called Dione. The references on google indicate a real girlfriend experience. Does anyone has experience with this girl. The URL is www.berlin-escort-dione.com.

Andromach-I have a question for you. Why is it that on 15/03/10 you come on to ISG and ask if anyone here has had an experience with Dione. On the same day on poppenreport you post a short review of the same girl saying that you saw her a week back?

I suspect this as a thinly veiled attempt to give this girl some press here on ISG. I also suspect that you are either Dione herself or someone closely connected to her.

And I therefore repeat my opinion from my below post-I would not have anything to do with this escort.

AM

[Jay Dawg]

Preamble

I was in Berlin for a couple of days for Business in March 2010 and decided that I would use the opportunity to take advantage of the friendly environment for the Hobby!

Research on the board and my own preferences had let me to the conclusion that I would have to try out the King George Flatrate Club (For adventure and breaking new ground) and Artemis (to have a sure succes.)

King George

Arrival

Arriving at King George is as easy as anything in Berlin using the extensive metro system. Leaving my hotel, switching only 1 time left me at Eisenacher Strasse you bahn Station. Now according to google maps I would be right atop the club. However as with the Fox' holes, Berlins U-Bahn stations have many exits and I had to walk for at least 2 minutes to get to the club!

The club is easily recognizable from the outside as they make no attempt at hiding what they are.

I rang the dorbell. And except from the bouncer allmost knocking me over, I was let in with no problem.

Once inside the Bouncer explained the concept and took my money and my jacket. In return I got a access and 3 "King George Dollars" with the message that I could buy more for 1€ a piece.

Now, I had seen this on some of their youtube videos (Linked by Angus below) and I was a little uncertain as to if this was part of some sort of scam. As it turns out Nobody used the dollarbills and the girls did not seem to have any interest in them. I put them in my pocket and they stayed there till I was back at my hotel where I left them for the maid.

Layout

Entering the club I saw a small bar area, to the left of that two slot machines, straight ahead the "stage" complete with pole and a small lounging area (four small corner sofas) with a view of the stage. Continuing from there, there is another bar area (not used for anything but the girls eating when I was there) passing this you get to the toilets and on to "the rooms". The layout of the place is quite narrow but works allright.

As I entered I noticed 5-6 girls and 2-3 other men. As the night went on I think I counted at the highest 8 girls and 5 men. I commented on this to one of the girls and she said that the girls were there but the customers not. I conluded that this is the amount of girls available on any given night (Actually a lot better than what I had expected!).

Most of the girls there were recognizable from their website (and previous reports) although there were a few I couldn't quite place. Also most girls are Romanian with a few exceptions.

Procedure

I got seated at the bar and "Katia" (Blond girl dancing on the website) served me a coffee. I watched the girls dance and talk and soon a nice girl (Paola, ½ Romanian, ½ Turkish) came over to "say Hi". After exchanging pleasantries for a short while we proceeded to the room for CBJ and FS. As it was my first of the night it was quickly over, but it did give an idea of how things works.

I was allowed to take a shower (available I all rooms) before we started and there was no attempt at upselling any extras. Actually I never really got around to ask if they offer any.

Back to the main room (the girls shower after, some of them follow you out, others accept if you leave before they are done.).

I was there for a total of 4 hours from 6 pm to 10 pm and I went with 4 girls. Procedure was basically the same each time. I would get them over using the FKK smile and nod, chat for a litlle while then to the room for CBJ and FS.

The Talent

Basically the girls are dancing or sitting chatting to the guests. If you indicate interest they will come talk to you and some will suggest the room others will wait for you to suggest. There were absolutely no attempts at getting me to buy champagne or ladies drinks even though champagne was available (I did see one guy get a girls champagne but he went straight for the bar and got it, so I assume he "knew" her).

Only one girl was pushing for the room, a small overweight Afgan woman wearing white lingerie. As there were more talent available than one could sample in one night a had to turn her away a couple of times.

Some of the girls seemed to really enjoy themselves dancing around playing/teasing each other. Other seemed to be there more as part of a job.

I did notice one thing though: Klaudia the blond "Austrian" previously reported on, did not mingle with the other girls but kept to either the Bouncer or customers. During the 4 hours I spent in KG I only saw her speak to one of the other girls one time. She also tended to stay for a long time in the room with the guests. I did not myself sample her, but maybe it could have been wothwhile.

The Action

1) Paola, ½ Romanian, ½ Turkish. Tall, Mature, larger, sagging breasts. Not skinny but not fat either. Friendly and nice, speaks English and Spanish. Good performance in the room. Recommendable.

2) Sophia, Romanian. Very quiet, No German, no English, no Spanish, hard to communicate with. Asked not to do from behind. Gives, as the only one the impression that this is a job she is not totally happy with. While in the room we could hear somebody really going at it! This turned out to be:

3) Katia, ½ Romanian, ½ Russian, 22. Blond largish breasts. Very playfull and lively girl, dances a lot on the stage. Delivers equally in the room. Katia delivered the best performance in the room. Recommendable.

4) Alexia, Spanish (claims Malaga). Very nice looking petite girl. Nice breasts with perky nipples. Will be in KG till the end of March. Delivered good performance and has a killer body. Recommendable.

Notes and thoughts:

Overall KG was a good experience. And definetely a lot better than expected! No hustle, no upselling and the general attitude of the girls were quite good. If one is in the mood for hanging out talkning to the girls this is possible. Performance in the room is average to good but not mindblowing. Choosing should be done with care using the same telltales as always: If she is happy and playfull in the bar. Go for it, if not try for something else.

That being said, with the price structure you can surelly afford a miss as it is not your wallet that will be the limiting factor.

Compared to Artemis, KG is a very different experience. The atmosphere is more of a "real bar", less relaxed and there is a very big difference in the talent. I would recommend both but prefer Artemis anytime. Not least for the more skilled SPs (and the tons of naked girls). However if you are looking for a lowbudget alternative to the many €'s an Artemis trip would cost you, KG is recommended!

A final thought: During my time there I observed maybe a total of 8 guys, each leaving 100€. The girls leave a mark on a sheet in the bar when they go to the room so it is reasonable to assume that they get paid for each trip in there. This makes sense from an incentive point of view as well. My point is that I have a hard time seeing this concept as being viable with such a low turnover. There is the owner, a barmaid, a bouncer, rent, drinks, electricity etc. To pay beside the girls. I simply cannot get the math to fit together.

Even if I was not there on a typical night you will need a lot of turnover to keep such a place alive!

Following day was Artemis-time. This will be reported on the Artemis thread.

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[Charlie 123]

Hi

I a getting a bit fed-up with Artemis. The line-up needs refreshment. 'Too much of a good thing' perhaps. Ayway, I am back in Berlin next week and plan to re-visit some of the bordelles that I abandoned when I became an Artemis junkie last year.

Does anybody happen to know this girl:

http://www.top-prestige.de/vanessa.htm

I am also intrigued by the following self-proclaimed 'hobbyfick':.

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-Eveline-15375.html

Any info would be appreciated

Thanks

Charlie

[Rocketboy0]

Hi

I a getting a bit fed-up with Artemis. The line-up needs refreshment. 'Too much of a good thing' perhaps. Ayway, I am back in Berlin next week and plan to re-visit some of the bordelles that I abandoned when I became an Artemis junkie last year.

Does anybody happen to know this girl:

http://www.top-prestige.de/vanessa.htm
Charlie

Yep - works at Prestige & Royal. Met 2X-both very passive, just kind of went through it. Very disappointing. Of course could be me, lack of chemistry etc. Your actual mileage may vary...If you are attracted to the mams-there are IMHO better alternatives, e.g. Natasha at Prestige, Maya at Monrouge, Fionna or Margo, at Kamilla Dee, maybe Marlene at Liberty, and perhaps some of the Herz team. A few lookers also at van Kempen but I´m not wild about the place...good luck and report back to us, bitte.

[Bobo.fr]

....
My other suggestion would to give KD a try. I quick look on their website turns up June.

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm
.......

AM
Now, June "only does .... devote numbers".
And Cora too.
So, no "normal" meetings with them will be possible any more.

[Bobo.fr]

Previous posts about Mondschien :
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=959185&postcount=1871


New rules :
With an entrance, we may get one free soft drink, the following soft drinks will cost 2 Euros each.

With the 30 Euros entrance : we may stay one hour in the bar and choose one lady ( I don t think that we may keep the lady for the whole hour); if we want a second lady, we should pay 10 Euros more.

With the 50 Euros entrance : no changes, we may spend 3 hours in the bar and "meet" with all the (3) ladies.


By the way, I saw Pam : she s not the lady I met before without asking her name.

[Rtw Monger]

I will spend one or two nights in Berlin.

[Bobo.fr]

Shared information about KD :

http://www.ignatzmice.com/WWWBoard/PHPBB/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15873&start=0

[Angus Magee]

I will spend one or two nights in Berlin.

As far as I see it strip clubs are not Berlin's strong suit as there are so many places to go where you can do more than just look. That being said you will find a section with bars & clubs on this site.

http://www.rotlichtadresse.de/


Sorry, I can not tell you which is best.

[Hektor T]

I will spend one or two nights in Berlin.

I agree with Angus, there isn't much in this area in Berlin. But I've heard the best is Rush Hour in West Berlin. It's not so good LOL!

[Skagen]

What is the situation with the privats/bordeles (eg Van Kampen, Monrouge, Liberty etc) during easter? Are they closed for the entire long weekend?

[Angus Magee]

What is the situation with the privats/bordeles (eg Van Kampen, Monrouge, Liberty etc) during easter? Are they closed for the entire long weekend?

Mon Rouge will probably be closed but VK, KD, Liberty, Royal etc. are usually open most of the holidays. The individual websites will give the hours of operation over the holidays.

AM

[Kvaser]

Have any of you guys visited the (new?) sauna club 77?

http://www.club77-berlin.com/index.php

It looks pretty nice to me, but I wonder whether it's worthwile visiting? I just might head back to Berlin this summer and if so I'll perhaps check this club out.

[Macca 74]

I was staying in a hotel near Oranienburger Strasse last week and was stopped by a few of these ladies. There's no denying some of them are very attractive, but why do they choose to do this when there are other safer, and presumably, more lucrative places to work? I'd just returned from Artemis and I'm sure that most of the girls I saw could have earned a good living there. Are they controlled by someone, or it is some sort of scam? I had no interest, but they were quoting €80 for massage, HJ, BJ and massage.

[Angus Magee]

Have any of you guys visited the (new?) sauna club 77?

http://www.club77-berlin.com/index.php

It looks pretty nice to me, but I wonder whether it's worthwile visiting? I just might head back to Berlin this summer and if so I'll perhaps check this club out.

Not a new club. Just a new website. I was there about 8 years back and it was spectacularly forgettable. There are much better ways to spend your euros in Berlin IMO.

[Ezye101]

Hey guys,

Its been almost 12 months since i've been to Liberty so i'm sure the talent has changed.

Can anyone recommend some top performers at Liberty of late?

Thanks,

Ezy

[Angus Magee]

Hey guys,

Its been almost 12 months since i've been to Liberty so i'm sure the talent has changed.

Can anyone recommend some top performers at Liberty of late?

Thanks,

EzyHi,

I have not been visiting Liberty with much regularity in the past year. When I do go I always see Romy. She is not 19 (as stated) but I do find her a top performer. She was previously working under the name Anna, also at Liberty. The name change was for personal reasons, not to avoid a bad rep.

AM

[Staffan68]

How is the current situation in Berlin?

Price range?

[Bbullersen]

I was in Berlin for a few days last week and was out tasting the local "cuisine"

The first day I had planned to check out Club Elfen, the short description and promise of a "seedy" place sounded very attractive to me, so I went there. Unfortunately the fact that I don't speak german very much pretty much prevented any communication from taking place. After talking to Suzy I couldn't talk to anyone else and was pretty much thrown out by the telephonelady. What a bummer

A few days later I ended up on Royal which is a real nice place. I had a very nice session with Riana who was delightfull, cheerfull and very serviceminded. There is no doubt that Royal is a very high class place, girls seems very nice and serviceminded and I felt confident that I would get good service and a nice experience. BUT, I believe the price is very high. The fact that every extra is chargeable made my experience pretty expensive. Not as expensive as home, but pretty much compared to other places in Berlin.

I was warned though from Angus' excellent bordell-list.

I also visited Artemis, which I will be telling about in the Artemis forum.

I enjoy Berlin very much and I hope I'll come back later this year.

Thanks to all in the forum, and specially thanks to Angus for his many reports

Cheers

[Charlie 123]

Hi

After my last visit to Berlin I resolved to avoid Artemis next time and re-visit some of my old haunts such as Monrouge.......

http://www.monrouge.de/adriana.html

Monrouge is a great place - a reasonably priced and service-orientated bordelle staffed by friendly, sexy (and usually busty) EE girls.

The Madame told me that a number of the girls from the website that interested me were no longer working at Monrouge or were on holiday. She presented me with 4 girls, of whom only Adriana is depicted on their site. I had heard good reports on her in a variety of places, so I went with her. She is prettier than her photos suggest, with flawless white skin and a cute round face. Her service is really good, and whilst there was no special chemistry going on, I found it a really enjoyable and relaxing session. I shall long recall her lying on her back whilst I climaxed inside her, staring straight at me and moaning lightly with her doe-eyes wide open...(purely for show of course, but very tastefully done)



http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-madelaine.html

I had booked a 'first appointment' with Madeleine for 4pm, and this turned out to be a 'Hall of Fame' session that I will remember for a long while. I had enjoyed Madeleine's company once before, at the back end of 2009. She has picked up a good grasp of English and German since then, which was helpful.

I had pre-planned to have a real hard-core session with her, as I know from experience that this girl can take a pounding despite her slim frame, but the occasion developed into a quite different sort of scene. She was intensely passionate and loving, and the afternoon turned into one of the best GFE experiences of my career. She is so cute and sensual, with a tenderness and finesse that belies her youth. I extended for a second hour, which I have never done before with a Hausbesuch, and the 2nd round was even better than the first.

One word of note about pricing however:- This agency used to charge 100E for a 1 hour session. This became 120E for Madeleine and 100E for the other girls. Now they are charging 30E extra for the 'call-out charge', so the total for Madeleine for the first hour was 150E. Plus 120E for the second hour = 270E total damage - well worth it anyway.

A certain repeat for me.

She leaves in June, so those of you who have not yet experienced Madeleine need to get your bookings in relatively soon.

Cheers

Charlie

[Angus Magee]

The Madame told me that a number of the girls from the website that interested me were no longer working at Monrouge or were on holiday. She presented me with 4 girls, of whom only Adriana is depicted on their site. I had heard good reports on her in a variety of places, so I went with her. She is prettier than her photos suggest, with flawless white skin and a cute round face. Her service is really good, and whilst there was no special chemistry going on, I found it a really enjoyable and relaxing session. I shall long recall her lying on her back whilst I climaxed inside her, staring straight at me and moaning lightly with her doe-eyes wide open...(purely for show of course, but very tastefully done)

Thanks Charlie. Your review of Adriana brings back memories:)

This girl was a regular for me a couple of years back. I saw her once a month for about 8 months and I can certainly agree with your assessment. She is a real sweetie. My trouble with her was that after a pause of two or three months, upon visiting her she acted like a real GF-all cold & bitchy. No more kisses for Angus.



I had booked a 'first appointment' with Madeleine for 4pm, and this turned out to be a 'Hall of Fame' session that I will remember for a long while. I had enjoyed Madeleine's company once before, at the back end of 2009. She has picked up a good grasp of English and German since then, which was helpful.

I had pre-planned to have a real hard-core session with her, as I know from experience that this girl can take a pounding despite her slim frame, but the occasion developed into a quite different sort of scene. She was intensely passionate and loving, and the afternoon turned into one of the best GFE experiences of my career. She is so cute and sensual, with a tenderness and finesse that belies her youth. I extended for a second hour, which I have never done before with a Hausbesuch, and the 2nd round was even better than the first.

One word of note about pricing however:- This agency used to charge 100E for a 1 hour session. This became 120E for Madeleine and 100E for the other girls. Now they are charging 30E extra for the 'call-out charge', so the total for Madeleine for the first hour was 150E. Plus 120E for the second hour = 270E total damage - well worth it anyway.

Funny that Madeleine was the darling of the German forum, Verkehrsberichte, when she appeared on the scene this past autumn. Nobody had a bad word to say for her and this led to her popularity pricing of 20 euros above the other girls.

Upon her return in February she suddenly has the reputation for being stuck up and full of herself. It appears as she really does like you a bit as you managed to coax what sounds like a stellar session from her.

Many thanks for the report.

AM

[Angus Magee]

How is the current situation in Berlin?

Price range?

I refer you to my posting of 24/02/10.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=991496&postcount=2013

As for pricing-I am not really sure. But there are other posts on this subject in the forum which I suggest you read.

[Staffan68]

I refer you to my posting of 24/02/10.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=991496&postcount=2013

As for pricing-I am not really sure. But there are other posts on this subject in the forum which I suggest you read.Thank you. I must have missed your report.

Do you know any other areas in Berlin?

[Txl Muc]

MADELEINE - 3 sessions so far :)

Madeleine really is petite the 150 cm, 45kg and the B-cup on http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-madelaine.html all seem to be accurate. She said that she was 21 and from Budapest. All the other KundZ and Hautnah girls have been Romanian, so I do not know if this is accurate.

Overall Rating: 10/10
Her looks: 9/10 – she is just seriously cute, has nice breasts and a killer bottom
Her Attitude: 10/10 – one of the best kissers I have been with, including my girl friends
Her service: 11/10 – to die for ;)

SIMONA - 1 session so far :)

Simona is a bit taller than Madelaine, and the 160 cm, 49kg and her A-cup on http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-simona.html all seem to be accurate. She says that she is Romanian, while Madeleine says she is Hungarian. Oh, and she smokes cigarettes while Madeleine does not – leaving her otherwise enjoyable French kissing with that ashtray’ish taste :(.

Overall Rating: 9/10
Her looks: 8/10 – slightly taller than Maddy,
Her Attitude: 9/10 – as enthusiastic as Maddy, a bit rougher when kissing and blowing
Her service: 10/10 – she is a 10, but Maddy is stellar

*** The telephone guy

A lot has been said already about Klein-und-Zierlich (KundZ) taken the baton from the *****-Club agency (née Hautnah). More so since both Miki and Ramona have been resurfacing with KundZ.

Again, the telephone guy at Klein-und-Zierlich reminded me of the chap at the now defunct Hautnah agency. Good German, polite and to the point. He will take your address and mobile number to call you should there be any delays – I had sessions with both Ramona and Madeleine and they have always been on time.

*** Madeleine - first impressions

Madeleine arrived wearing tight black jeans, a tight top and ballerina shoes. She did have very little make up, keeps her finger nails short and only uses transparent nail polish. Altogether she did make the impression of a sober 20 year old, very pleasant without anything remotely tarty (let alone sluttish) about her. The only thing made up about her is her (new) extensions – her hair now is longer than on KundZ’s site.

She likes appearing street smart and when I had her for a second time was a bit proud to know how the access security system in my gated condo works.

*** Maddy - well, second impressions

I offered her to take a shower. My condo is fairly open plan and after a very quick shower she came back to the living room - starkly naked and smiling, asking me why I was still dressed.

The lack of the towel revealed her shaven pussy and her killer arse. She seems very confortable with showing her body - and while her petite body reminds me of Asian girls, that is something which is very different from the always towel wrapped Asians.


*** Playing with Maddy

Well, who was I to resist…

I put on some music. Madelaine's German is pretty much non existent, her English is ok’ish. We (well, she) decided for English as our common language and she was both cheeky and pleasant to be with. We joked about our difference (I am much taller than her) in size and our lack of a common language - and landed in the bed.

She has perfect although small breasts, a very flat stomach and a neatly shaven pussy. I think in terms of her body she is a 9, too small to be a killer 10. She is very petite, so YMMV.

She turned out to be one of the best kissers I have been with, including my real girl friends. I must admit that my memory is a bit blurred here – I have hired her three time altogether and she has been kissing more intimately each time, soothe FK may be as ever so often ‘bei Sympathie’. She then started with a (long) blow job. At times it was a bit rough and direct and I have experienced more varied technique. However, she deserves a 10 for endurance. She was enthusiastically doing me for more than 10 minutes. At one point bare back blow job was finished and we started having (obviously protected) s**. I guess the complete 1st sessions have been lasting for 40 minutes or so. The amazing thing is that she tries to make me switch positions when I am about to come (rather that try to make me come quickly); she has been blowing me in the 2nd session (trying to make me CIM); and she has asked me twice what I really liked sexually (and offering that service).

She massaged me and seems to enjoy chatting, as far as her limited English suffices. While chatting, she can be classy, girlish and genuinely sweet. And she is one of the best f***s in my life...

*** Simona - first impressions

Simona arrived a lot like Maddy wearing tight black jeans, a tight top and ballerina shoes. Again very little make up, same hair extensions – but longer nails short and red nail polish. And a bit rougher somehow.

*** Playing with Simona

I had been put on music while she had been showering and she asked me to undress (BTW: why are all those Romanian Hautnah and KundZ escorts into Eminem?)

Simona's German is pretty much non existent, and her English is sufficient for very basic conversations only. Same, ad Maddy she was both cheeky and pleasant to be with. At that time she was naked - she has flat’ish A-cup breasts, a very flat stomach and a neatly shaven pussy. Ignoring her breasts, she is as pretty as Maddy – them included she is a cute 8. She is still petite, so YMMV.

After some more teasing - I had the impression she would not like to french kiss as much as Maddy and did not push it - she started a very prolonged BBBJ. At times it was a bit rough and direct and I have experienced more varied technique. However, she deserves a another 10 for endurance.

Great (protected) s** after the bare back blow job. And we chatted after s**. She comes from Bucharest in Romania and has been in Berlin for 2 months. While chatting, she can be girlish and she is generally best when she does things she seems comfortable with.

LAST THOUGHTS

Madeleine told she liked going shopping with Simona. Maybe that means that she is friends with her, which would make sense given that the other two KundZ girls might be closer with their commong Hautnah history.

So, I am contemplating a 3-some with them. Any advice anyone? Angus?

[Angus Magee]

So, I am contemplating a 3-some with them. Any advice anyone? Angus?

Do it!!! And please issue a report. Pics would earn you major points;)

Seriously it sounds like a threesome with these two could be a winner. IME the most important ingredient for a successful P4P duo is that the girls be friends. And it sounds like this base is fully covered.

And it is good to hear two such positive reports about this agency here on ISG. Reading the German forum I was beginning to believe that KundZ had jumped the shark. But then maybe the over all sophistication of the typical ISG member is higher than that of the local forums.

Will add both your posts & Charlie's to the RoD thread.

Thanks

AM

Edit Thanks T M for the heads up on the abbreviation "KZ". Helps to have some native speakers on board.

[Txl Muc]

Funny that Madeleine was the darling of the German forum, Verkehrsberichte, when she appeared on the scene this past autumn. Nobody had a bad word to say for her and this led to her popularity pricing of 20 euros above the other girls.

Upon her return in February she suddenly has the reputation for being stuck up and full of herself. It appears as she really does like you a bit as you managed to coax what sounds like a stellar session from her. Many thanks for the report.
AM

Gentlemen, that's what I call coincidental reporting. I also had an excellent session since Charly's earlier question - several excellent sessions sessions actually. http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=996575#post996575

Quick word of advice: treat Maddy nicely and she will reciprocate. And she feeds on Nutella and Red Bull - have those in stock... ;)

[Txl Muc]

Pics would earn you major points;)AM

I did not realize you have THAT fetish ;)




Seriously it sounds like a threesome with these two could be a winner. IME the most important ingredient for a successful P4P duo is that the girls be friends. And it sounds like this base is fully covered.

Still contemplating. And saving.



But then maybe the over all sophistication of the typical ISG member is higher than that of the local forums
Well, Berlin is not THE German haven for sophistication. And tone in German forums frequently is not very pleasant. So maybe Madeleine was just going native... Or maybe we REALLY are all gentlemen in this forum ... ;)



Will add both your posts & Charlie's to the RoD thread.
Thanks

[Angus Magee]

I did not realize you have THAT fetish ;)

No fetish. But pictures are worth 1000 words as they say ;)



, Berlin is not THE German haven for sophistication. And tone in German forums frequently is not very pleasant. So maybe Madeleine was just going native... Or maybe we REALLY are all gentlemen in this forum ... ;)


My impression of the German forums (at least the local ones that I am familiar with) is that the guys are often really obsessed with price. That is they are looking for low cost/high milage. Now not that I blame them, but I alway feel that the girls like guys who are a wee bit easier with the money. Not that you have to be rich (though it helps) but to always be grinding the girls shows bad form IMO. I find a bit of sweetness, like having a supply of Red Bull & Nutella on hand, softens a girls disposition and is repaid with a sweetness of service that even an extra 50 euros could not buy.

AM

[Bearsk]

So Txl-Muc and Angus, thanks for another little titbit gem ... just what do the girls do with the Nutella? Is it something we can read in Angus' long awaited BBBJ training manual?

Is combination with Red Bull obligatory?
(I think some of them want the new Red Bull sugar free now, a girls go to watch her figure after all)



... I find a bit of sweetness, like having a supply of Red Bull & Nutella on hand, softens a girls disposition and is repaid with a sweetness of service that even an extra 50 euros could not buy.
AM

[Txl Muc]

So Txl-Muc and Angus, thanks for another little titbit gem ...

You are welcome.



Just what do the girls do with the Nutella? Is it something we can read in Angus' long awaited BBBJ training manual?


And I thought you would use your imagination (Nutella powered) ... and not need a manual. Given you seem to be an Artemis aficionado, you'll need a jar ;)

Honestly: it was a Nutella dip - but of the harmless type, aka Nutella & Go.

[Bearsk]

Does Nutella come in a six pack? It comes with a manual if you buy six?


You are welcome.



And I thought you would use your imagination (Nutella powered) ... and not need a manual. Given you seem to be an Artemis aficionado, you'll need a jar ;)

Honestly: it was a Nutella dip - but of the harmless type, aka Nutella & Go.

[Angus Magee]

Does Nutella come in a six pack? It comes with a manual if you buy six?


The sweet girl is going to wonder why, over the coming weeks, every other monger she meets greets her with a Red Bull & a large jar of Nutella ;)

[Charlie 123]

So, I am contemplating a 3-some with them. Any advice anyone? Angus?I suggested exactly that to Madeleine at the end of our excellent session this week. She told me that she would be happy to party with any of the other girls in the agency, but they were all back home at present, but she wouldn't 3-some with Simone as she is her sister!

Charlie

[Angus Magee]

Thank you. I must have missed your report.

Do you know any other areas in Berlin?

There are a couple of other street locations. Oranienburgerstr. in Mitte and Strasse 17 Juni both can be found with girls selling their wares. But they are not recommended. Oranienburgerstr. especially is populated by very hard core street girls, who can look stunning, but whose service will leave you wanting. And for the price you will pay you can get a great session with a nice girl in a comfortable bordello.

Perhaps you should read this report.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=767681&postcount=946

It will give you an idea of what to expect.

AM

[Ezye101]

Thought I would stop by Berlin for a bit of mongering.

Müller 2 (Lankwitzer straße 7); Saw maybe 8 girls that night, but decided with Mimi - who's the website. Petite little thing, can't be more that 5 foot tall, but nice package on her. 30 minute session was very good, lots attention, touching, sex in a few positions and she seemed like she enjoyed sex. For looks i give her 7/10 and service was 9/10.

L'amour2; Day trip to middle of nowhere. Went with Vivien for 20 mins with küssen (also on the website). She's average looking, but with curves in all the right places. Great session, with lots of DFK and sex very satisfying. For looks i give her 8/10 and service 9/10.

Müller 2; Wanted to go to Liberty but was closed at 20.00 (WTF ???) So quickly rushed to Müller 2, after the previous session. Not so many girls that night, but ended up with Vivien for 20 mins with French both ways. Not the best looking and service was quite average, but i gave her DATY and let me figner her as long as i wanted - can't do much better than that. For looks i give her 5/10 and service 6/10.

Stay tuned, will be back for another session in berlin soon.

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[Txl Muc]

I suggested exactly that to Madeleine (...). She told me that she would be happy to party with any of the other girls in the agency, (...) but she wouldn't 3-some with Simone as she is her sister!
Charlie

I asked the telephone guy about a 3-some: he confirmed Maddys response - I am not sure whether that is true or whether they are just close friends, but she seems to dislike the very idea, so I won't push it. Talk about bubbles bursting... ;)

[Bobby Cph]

Going to Berlin later this month and I could use some reports on girls from KD since there are quite a bunch of new faces lately.

On an earlier trip I had a hot and naughty GFE with Luna (http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/luna-e.htm) but sadly she does not work there anymore.

The day after I went with Grace (http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/grace-e.htm) and she was very nice and sweet but we did not quite click so the sex was so-so.

But what I had with Luna, that's what I'm looking for: Hot and naughty GFE...

Any reccomendations?

[Angus Magee]

But what I had with Luna, that's what I'm looking for: Hot and naughty GFE...?

Aren't we all?

My first recommendation would have to be next time you come to Berlin (or anywhere) and have a hot, naughty GFE maybe post a report. That way the forum becomes more active with actual reports and everybody benefits.

I checked your posting history, such as it is, and found 8 postings mostly questions with a few comments. I have to ask what you do with your info, if you receive any, and remind you that giving back information is key to success on these forums.

End of lecture.

As I know this thread probably better than anyone I can tell you there is not a huge number of reports on current KD girls. But there is some. I suggest you do a search, making sure that you check the field that posts the results as reports, not threads, as you will have less to sift through. The RoD thread is also useful to skim.

Or you can find a report by Bobo fr. and check his reports as he has a number of KD reports to his credit.

On a more philosophical level-the GFE (especially the naughty variety) is an elusive beast. If you had one with a KD girl and then struck out the second time, that is not a bad track record. And just because you had a GFE with a girl does not mean I will have one with the same girl. It depends on how you "click" with the girl and this is never guaranteed. Over all, I have found that of the apartment bordellos, KD & Liberty are the addresses where I have had the most over all success with finding GFE.

But Artemis, not an apartment bordello but an FKK, beats them all, albeit at a higher price.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Something else to consider about not posting reviews.

I can not speak for other mongers but I know I do have a small list of girls I consider to be top GFEs. With these girls I usually develop a sort of friendship with in the confines of our paid sex relationship. Thus I will not share this info with anyone unless he has a decent posting history and I can judge him to be a reasonable fellow. If you come here just to siphon off information you will not get this info I can assure you.

AM

[Bearsk]

I agree completely.
Bobby, Angus and others are forthcoming.
At KD Fiona and Flavia have get reputations for GFE whereas apparently Allegra has tits to die for but will not let you play with them ....

NOW you are notice to actually post something useful from your upcoming trip.


Something else to consider about not posting reviews.

I can not speak for other mongers but I know I do have a small list of girls I consider to be top GFEs. With these girls I usually develop a sort of friendship with in the confines of our paid sex relationship. Thus I will not share this info with anyone unless he has a decent posting history and I can judge him to be a reasonable fellow. If you come here just to siphon off information you will not get this info I can assure you.

AM

[Bobby Cph]

My first recommendation would have to be next time you come to Berlin (or anywhere) and have a hot, naughty GFE maybe post a report. That way the forum becomes more active with actual reports and everybody benefits.
(...)
End of lecture.I know that sharing information and reporting is essential for the forum. (Regarding the GFE with Luna its around a year old and as such not that present in my head regarding details). Also I think I just have to learn how to share the experiences I have with the SP's. And I can only learn by trying, so of course I will report on my trips and experiences.


On a more philosophical level-the GFE (especially the naughty variety) is an elusive beast. (...) just because you had a GFE with a girl does not mean I will have one with the same girl. It depends on how you "click" with the girl and this is never guaranteed.I also thought about this before I posted the question on great GFE girls at KD. But IMHO some girls are still better at giving GFE than others more or less regardless of the 'click'.

And now I will go hunting for older forum posts! (why didn't I think of this myself?!)

[Angus Magee]

. Also I think I just have to learn how to share the experiences I have with the SP's. And I can only learn by trying, so of course I will report on my trips and experiences.

One thing to realize is that a lengthy report, while nice, is not necessary in order to inform the forum of your adventures. As I see it, if you are not into writing epics, at least write where you went, who you saw, how much it cost including any extras, and then a short summary of the session. This can be as short as one sentence though two or three is usually better. A link to the girl also helps if that is possible. Lastly I find it a good guide if you add, all things being equal, would you repeat with the girl-maybe as a percentage of chance. This does not mean you will repeat, just would you.

[Jes007]

As I had some good experice with two of the agencies haushotellbesuche and kleine-zierlich I wanted to try two other agencies of two different occations.

The first one was diskret-privat. I decided or have someone who could do anal and the guy recommended Viktoria. I said ok as the girl looked ok. She came to the hotel 30 minutes later. Slim Bulgarian with small tits. She was clean and nice looking. Paid the 90+20€. No kissing, no owo and no anal. She left after 20 mins. Disaster.

http://www.diskret-privat.de/modelle.php


Probably I had more blood in my dick than in my brain and went for this agency. I asked for Ceylan but she was not available but the gut recommeded Melissa who was not on the we that time. I was promised petite slim girl. When she toook off he clothes she was fat and smelly. She gave both OWO and anal and done after 20 minutes. No second shot.

So I agree with Angus regarding these agencies. It's better to stay away.




http://www.6-escort.de/

[oriema2002]

I will be spending two days in Berlin next week. I really want to visit a couple Kinos. What are the best? (addresses) Which ones have the best looking women? Where is the action the hottest? Do any offer BBBJ/CIM or full BB?

[Angus Magee]

I will be spending two days in Berlin next week. I really want to visit a couple Kinos. What are the best? (addresses) Which ones have the best looking women? Where is the action the hottest? Do any offer BBBJ/CIM or full BB?

Your questions have been discussed & answered several times in the thread. Also look for the 1st version of the Berlin Guide in the RoD thread posted about 1.5 years back. The info is still relevant.

[Fascination]

I like alternative looking girls with tattoos piercings, died hair, heavy make up etc. Are there any alternative or goth looking girls working in Berlin or are they all the clean cut type. Speaking English would be an advantage.

[Angus Magee]

I like alternative looking girls with tattoos piercings, died hair, heavy make up etc. Are there any alternative or goth looking girls working in Berlin or are they all the clean cut type. Speaking English would be an advantage.


While I would not call her Goth she is sort of Alternative.

Trixie @ Freudenhaus

http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/trixi.html

The pics on the website do not really show it but she has a number of tats and piercings. Nice girl too but no English to speak of. There is a review from a couple years back (by yours truly) in the forum. I will try to upload another pic of her that I happen to have from an older website.

A word of warning though-she is notoriously unreliable with regard to work. That is just because she is on the schedule does not mean she will be at work. I seem to remember having to go back several times to see her.

Edit-I know it is a pretty small pic but the ISG would not allow me to upload any of the other pics I have. Said they were too big. I am really not very knowledgeable about this end of things-pics & stuff

[Dead Poet]

After my mongering in Berlin, especially in the escorts scene (duly reported here at that time), I too like Angus zeroed in on a a couple of GFEs whose numbers I obviously cannot share. But last week on a lark I tried Ophelia (old La passion) and had 2 excellent experiences with Alicia and Selina. Both don't much to look at but game for anything that you can come up with. IMHO a good value for the money you pay.

I perhaps won't do them again, but for a 1 off experience, it was worth it.

(BTW if someone has an experience with Susi there, a report will be welcome)

DP

[Angus Magee]

I guess times are tough for the flat rates in Berlin. Caligula is now offering its' girls up during certain hours for the discounted rate of 20 euros for 20 minutes or 40 euros for 30. It includes oral and sex. I assume the oral is covered but it does not get any cheaper than that.

http://www.caligula-berlin.de/bordell-guenstig-berlin.html

I do not vouch for the service you would receive but if all you are after is a lay you probably could do worse. If anyone tries it out a report would be appreciated.

[Rocketboy0]

I guess times are tough for the flat rates in Berlin. Caligula is now offering its' girls up during certain hours for the discounted rate of 20 euros for 20 minutes or 40 euros for 30. It includes oral and sex. I assume the oral is covered but it does not get any cheaper than that.

.

Angus ole Lad, I dunno. This sounds grim to me, sort of like a Big McMuschi...

[Angus Magee]

Angus ole Lad, I dunno. This sounds grim to me, sort of like a Big McMuschi...


I agree RB, I am just reporting what I have found. On the other hand-sometimes a Big Mac just hits the spot, no? In all seriousness I do not feel much temptation to visit. The place has a real sleazy air to it. The only slight temptation I feel is to pay a visit to see if I could score a session with Anastasia. If you look back in the forum you will find a couple of reviews of the puffy princess. She used to work at the now defunct Erotik Desire and I have several really good sessions with her. But I fear my taste has now been forever turned towards more luxurious and kind surroundings.

[Sanjay Dutt]

Dear all,

Can anyone guide me for the best budget female comapnion. As I will be visiting by June. July. We are having expo there. So need good company with me. It will be for 3 days. The female partner can stay with me.

[Hazukis]

I like alternative looking girls with tattoos piercings, died hair, heavy make up etc. Are there any alternative or goth looking girls working in Berlin or are they all the clean cut type. Speaking English would be an advantage.This can be one Choice for you.

http://www.poppinserate.com/anzeige.php?id=1144

Also a real Gothgirl
http://www.jessy-escort.de
The Pictures do not reale Show it, but this Girl is big tatooed .

The first one I don't know, the second one I can personaly give a very good Note.

[Jedi 1977]

I've read a couple of reports, including a very elaborate one by Mass Monger (thank you), on flat rate places in berlin. However, one thing is never mentioned.

Is there a pressure to buy drinks for the girls there? The reason I ask is that it seems a little too good to be true that you can have sex with 6 women for 79 or 99 Euroes. So I am expecting champagne drinks etc. To the order of the day, but it's never mentioned. Otherwise I must say, 99 euroes for unlimited sex and a couple of drinks sounds pretty good to me.

So any experience with extras at falt rate places would be appreciated. I am there in May, and only have 2 days so I don't have time to make wrong decisions.

[Rufus T Firefly]

Can anyone guide me for the best budget female comapnion. As I will be visiting by June. July. We are having expo there. So need good company with me. It will be for 3 days. The female partner can stay with me.

You would benefit by posting this question in the Nuremberg section.

Rufus

[Mr Tee]

Just wondering if there are any places Bars/Clubs/Streets where I can pick up some younger girls in this age range. I will happily pay for quality.

[Angus Magee]

Just wondering if there are any places Bars/Clubs/Streets where I can pick up some younger girls in this age range. I will happily pay for quality.


I am not that clear what you are after. I am assuming you are looking for non pro girls (students) who you pick up as civilians and then offer to pay for their services. If so I wish you luck. This is always a tricky coup to pull off properly in a country as relatively well off as is Germany. You really do risk insulting the girl with your offer as well intentioned as it may be. I am not saying it is in any way impossible, just difficult.

That being said, I can tell you that the area of Friedrichshein Berlin has a fairly busy street and cafe scene in the summer months. You might try there.

AM

[Tuxsmasher]

I am not that clear what you are after. I am assuming you are looking for non pro girls (students) who you pick up as civilians and then offer to pay for their services. If so I wish you luck. This is always a tricky coup to pull off properly in a country as relatively well off as is Germany. You really do risk insulting the girl with your offer as well intentioned as it may be. I am not saying it is in any way impossible, just difficult.

That being said, I can tell you that the area of Friedrichshein Berlin has a fairly busy street and cafe scene in the summer months. You might try there.

AMWhy would they refuse easy money? You'd think students would be all over deals like this.

[Severin Carl]

You better continue wondering, Mr.Tee. This is a very funny question and Angus is right to warn you : The answer you will get from the girl might be very clear but almost certainly not in the way you wanted. German girls and especially girls in Berlin are quite liberal - they like to flirt and compared to France and even Paris it is not so difficult to find a girl-friend in Berlin. But never, really NEVER, talk about money for sex ! In summer 2008 I had to go to Berlin and had some drink in a café at Hackescher Markt in Mitte. As it was not so cold as usual in this part of Sibiria, the place was crowded. So two girls (18 and 20) from Groningen (NL) asked to share my table. Of course, I agreed. And being in my fiftys I never hoped for more than some nice conversation. I invited them to dinner, offered a sight-seeing-tour in my car, we went to some bars and clubs and I finished a glorious night with one of them. This never happened before, this never happened again. Much to my regret. And I am sur : This would not, NOT, have happened at all if I had talked about money. So Mr.Tee : Save your Euros, spend your charme. If there is any.

[Bearsk]

This is good advice.
German society is polarized to liberal and conservation on all sorts of things, including sex. Working it out is complex.
I have a regular lady who is a 35 year old hotel manager and is very religious. She has the body of a statue under conservative clothes and has no other real vices. He favorite thing is having her brains fucked out after church (going to church is cheaper than dinner, I hear you say). Who would guess? On the other hand, very flirtatious younger women - happy to kiss in public with tongue, tell you they are virgins and they won't.
Be careful and try the areas Angus and Carl suggested. There are lots of young women and they certainly will talk to you


You better continue wondering, Mr.Tee. This is a very funny question and Angus is right to warn you : The answer you will get from the girl might be very clear but almost certainly not in the way you wanted. German girls and especially girls in Berlin are quite liberal - they like to flirt and compared to France and even Paris it is not so difficult to find a girl-friend in Berlin. But never, really NEVER, talk about money for sex ! In summer 2008 I had to go to Berlin and had some drink in a café at Hackescher Markt in Mitte. As it was not so cold as usual in this part of Sibiria, the place was crowded. So two girls (18 and 20) from Groningen (NL) asked to share my table. Of course, I agreed. And being in my fiftys I never hoped for more than some nice conversation. I invited them to dinner, offered a sight-seeing-tour in my car, we went to some bars and clubs and I finished a glorious night with one of them. This never happened before, this never happened again. Much to my regret. And I am sur : This would not, NOT, have happened at all if I had talked about money. So Mr.Tee : Save your Euros, spend your charme. If there is any.

[Angus Magee]

Why would they refuse easy money? You'd think students would be all over deals like this.

Why refuse easy money? It may seem easy to you but to a young lady brought up in the west there is a huge stigma attached to a straight forward trading of sex for money. I honestly think that the type of encounter described by S C has a greater likelihood of happening here in Germany. To just sit down with a girl and half an hour (or two hours) later be offering her cash for sex....this is more likely to just cause offense.

Remember I say it is not an impossibility, just that the situation would require caution and discretion and would not be easy. You would as likely get your face slapped as anything else. But if Mr. Tee does manage to pull it off I would be delighted for him and of course expect a fully detailed report here in the near future.

Oh-and for the type of experience had by S C I think that the area he mentions is probably a better choice as you would more likely run into girls on vacation.

AM

[Angus Magee]

A few pages back the possibilities of introducing Nutella into a session were pondered. I came across this on a torrent site yesterday and thought some of you might appreciate it. Let me say to avoid misunderstanding that Angus did not participate on the making of this video. I merely found it on a torrent site.


DL40.83Mb: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MN5RPSKE

[Amitabh Bhachan]

Hi I am new to all this. Am in Berlin May 7-9th.

I have read the posts in great detail and will be visiting King George for definite. As this is my first visit to Berlin please could you recommend other Bordells near the Intercontinental Hotel.

Many Thanks

[The AF]

Hi I am new to all this. Am in Berlin May 7-9th.

I have read the posts in great detail and will be visiting King George for definite. As this is my first visit to Berlin please could you recommend other Bordells near the Intercontinental Hotel.

Many Thanks

Yo,

near the Interconti I would go to the Liberty in Martin-Luther Strasse 14..!! Very good place and very well run with nice and pretty ladies who offer good service for reasonable money..!!

Enjoy,
The AF

[Angus Magee]

Yo,

near the Interconti I would go to the Liberty in Martin-Luther Strasse 14..!! Very good place and very well run with nice and pretty ladies who offer good service for reasonable money..!!

Enjoy,
The AF

I whole heartedly second this suggestion. Liberty is an excellent bordello.

Remember to write your report.

AM

[Amitabh Bhachan]

I whole heartedly second this suggestion. Liberty is an excellent bordello.

Remember to write your report.

AMPlease could you also recommend a sex kino near the intercontinental hotel as I do not wish to stray too far from there.

Also does anyone have any feedback on Airport Muschis Flatrate club

Many Thanks and i'll post my reports.

[Angus Magee]

Please could you also recommend a sex kino near the intercontinental hotel as I do not wish to stray too far from there.

Also does anyone have any feedback on Airport Muschis Flatrate club

Many Thanks and i'll post my reports.


I am not 100% sure where the Intercontinental Hotel is. When asking such questions it is useful to include a link. That way, you do your own work and get a better chance at a good answer.

If you look in the RoD thread you will find lengthy report from a couple of years back that includes all I know about Kinos. I think that Kino 26 & Paolas kino are not too far from where you are. At least they are about a 20 minute walk from Liberty.

Airport Muschis may very well be closed. I think I read this on a German forum. I think you do best at King George. Caligula Club is also close but be careful there. I have read some bad reports about it and as a tourist you may not be treated well. The again, maybe you will be.

Do I need to remind you to write a report?

[Charlie 123]

Arrived Tuesday with a long menu of girls on my 'to do before I die' list. Planned first stop was at Monrouge with Maya, but when I called in an effort to bring the appointment forward by half an hour I was told that she wasn't available. First time that I've ever been let down at Monrouge in any way. I wasn't best pleased. Vanessa and Inga at Prestige weren't working that day. I had intended to visit Rose16, a bordelle that specialises in older ladies, but the two MILF's that I fancied were also not on duty. Bad start.

Artemis was dead in the afternoon, and I spent an hour there between 2 and 3 pm without finding anything that took my fancy.

Things started to pick up - I then had a 2 hour session with Madeleine at the hotel
http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-madelaine.html

Once again she was fabulous - I have written up before a couple of my sessions with her - this was perhaps the best of them all. We seem to be developing something of a rapport, and I find her to be a tender and passionate lover rather than the 'glam' sex-bomb that the German boards in particular seem to view her.

The late session at Artemis was more promising - a wider selection of girls and a better turnout from the guys. I sessioned wildly with Katja from Slovakia, one of my regulars, and then has a trio with her and some plastic blonde Brazilian glamourpuss whose name I forget.

Day 2 (Wednesday) was contaminated by some work I had to do in the morning. Once again, my original plan had been to check out some Wohnungspuffhotties that I'd seen on the net, but I ended up back at Artemis at 4 pm. I confined myself to a single session with previous acquaintance Joy from Lithuania, a 5'8'' dark-haired girl with small tits but fit physique, largely constituted by a long and expert blowjob with cim finish

Conclusion:- A somewhat bland expedition overall, with too many repeat experiences and not enough new faces (and pussies) realised.

Note to self:- 'Next time stick to the agenda, do at least 3 new girls, and try to keep away from the ''Tried and Trusteds'' '

Happy May 1st holidays, Comrades!!

Charlie

[Jedi 1977]

I see a few places offering a new "2 for 1" special. Has anyone any experince with this? how does it work, and is it worth a look?

[Unter]

I am 23 year old guy living and working Berlin. I went to Oranienstrasse to pick up a prostitute tonight. I did not have to walk up and down the street too many times before I was solicited by a really hot girl. She said, "Do you want to go to my room? " (auf Deutsch). I responded "naturally, How much? " She said 50 for a BJ in park, 80 to go into a room.

Of course, I could not resist this offer of only 80 Euros to have sex with such a hot girl and hastily agreed. It was kind of (actually make that really) embarrassing to have to walk side by side with her until we got to the place where her room was, but whatever.

I only had a 100 Euros since I had two 50 EUR bills, so I asked if she could please give me change afterwards. She said that was fine. I knew there was a high likelihood I would never see those twenty EUR, but I still thought at the time 100 EUR to have sex with this girl is a bargain.

So I get naked and she gives me a massage. Meh, I hate these and never want them.

So then she gives me a HJ with condom! And, get this, fakes giving me a blowjob or at least I am 90% sure she was faking. It was really fucking weird. Anyone ever heard of a girl doing this? Can I request that she get down on her knees and let me stand? Why the hell do I always have to lie down and have them not look at me when giving me a BJ? Can't I ever receive one like they are meant to be received?

Anyway, then I'm about to cum so I tell her to please stop so that we can have sex. Her response shocked me: 150 EUR in order to have sex!

Since when did a ***** asking you to come into her room mean, "I will give you a handjob with a condom on and nothing more"?

I argued a bit, but could see I was getting nowhere so just sucked it up and told her to finish the HJ.

However, she was not done trying to swindle me.

She asked if I wanted to see her breasts. Of course I said yes.

I came about two minutes after this. However, as I was getting dressed, I reminded her of the 20 EUR she still owed me as change. She said she would change money as soon as she went downstairs.

Literally a minute later, though, she informs me that seeing her breasts costs 50 EUR normally, but because she is so generous she will only charge me 20! It was as though our previous conversation had never happened!

Anyway, is this typical behavior of Oranienstraße prostitues?

I'm not a very assertive guy, so is there a way for me to avoid having this happen to me in the future?

I got to admit, I like the idea of street prostitutes much more than brothels. The idea of seeing a really hot girl on the street and then having sex with her is much more of a fantasy come true for me than seeing a girl in as artificial a setting as a brothel.

Thanks for any advice on how to

A. Get a BJ while standing

B. Actually have sex with a street girl.

[Angus Magee]

Thanks for any advice .


Hi,

From the sounds of it your experience was pretty typical of street girls from this area. True they can look good, but they are all about separating you from your cash while making as little effort as possible. The hand bj is also a very common technique used by these girls to avoid giving a real bj. Many will do the same thing with the pussy. That is, put their hand down there and generally make the whole experience so frustrating that you just give up and leave.

If you really do get some juice from picking a girl up I suggest the area around Bülowstr. in Schöneberg.

http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=buelowstr&sll=52.250362,13.210466&sspn=0.90969,2.389526&ie=UTF8&cd=1&hq=&hnear=B%C3%BClowstra%C3%9Fe,+10783+Berlin&ll=52.497675,13.361607&spn=0.014134,0.037336&z=15

The girls there are less glamorous but I think you will have a better chance at finding someone who will actually service your needs. But be warned-this area is a little rougher in all ways and thus perhaps a little more dangerous.

In general street prostitution is a very frustrating way of meeting the ladies. The whole set up is very transient and the girls do not really expect to see you as a repeat customer. So where is their incentive to not just milk you of as much money as possible? Generally it does not exist. In my own adventures on the street, and this is quite some time back in a large N. American city, I found that maybe one session in 10 would be good. The rest varied from average to terrible. I really think that if one insists on finding girls this way, one has to accept these odds. And of course if yo can find and sign onto a good local forum where the guys who frequent the streets write their experiences, your odds are improved.

Personally I have to recommend using the bordellos here in Berlin. You might find them more "artificial" but you will get much better treatment in nicer surrounding. I am sure that any number of the Liberty crew would be able to supply you will a standing bj, uncovered for the half hour, fully naked for 80 euros.

Please read the Berlin thread. There are plenty of reports and recommendations in the back pages.

[Gergiev]

I went to Oranienstrasse to pick up a prostitute tonight.
Bad rap alright, Unter.

But do you mean Oranienburgerstrasse instead of Oranienstrasse???

[Unter]

Yes, I did, but since my computer is currently sent to English, and I don't have an umlaut I didn't feel like writing out the full name.

[Worldbank]

One of my friends has recently been to Berlin and he is a guy who already naturally is good in picking up girls (without paying for them), but what he told me about Berlin. That's crazy!

He told me about the Berlin club-scene that you in a lot of big clubs but according to him it's almost like one big orgy, especially in the gothic & alternative clubs, that is is allowed to have sex in clubs and that they have special areas in the clubs where people have sex. According to him girls in Berlin are really extremely open-minded and sexually open.

Okay, this might be true, BUT are they really so open-minded as he described me?

So, is it a fairy tale or is it partially true?

[Angus Magee]

One of my friends has recently been to Berlin and he is a guy who already naturally is good in picking up girls (without paying for them), but what he told me about Berlin. That's crazy!

He told me about the Berlin club-scene that you in a lot of big clubs but according to him it's almost like one big orgy, especially in the gothic & alternative clubs, that is is allowed to have sex in clubs and that they have special areas in the clubs where people have sex. According to him girls in Berlin are really extremely open-minded and sexually open.

Okay, this might be true, BUT are they really so open-minded as he described me?

So, is it a fairy tale or is it partially true?

First, I am by no means an expert on the Berlin club scene. But I would imagine that you could find such clubs in Berlin. To say that this is the norm for clubs (orgy rooms, public sex) may be stretching the truth a bit. And I also imagine that these clubs, should you find them, will not be solidly a hetero environment. If you know what I mean.

[Fascination]

The first girl is gorgeous but I can't see contact details listed anywhere on that site I haven't used it before, can someone help me out?

Anything more about Jessy would be nice also


This can be one Choice for you.

http://www.poppinserate.com/anzeige.php?id=1144

Also a real Gothgirl
http://www.jessy-escort.de
The Pictures do not reale Show it, but this Girl is big tatooed .

The first one I don't know, the second one I can personaly give a very good Note.

[Rocketboy0]

He told me about the Berlin club-scene that you in a lot of big clubs but according to him it's almost like one big orgy, especially in the gothic & alternative clubs, that is is allowed to have sex in clubs and that they have special areas in the clubs where people have sex. According to him girls in Berlin are really extremely open-minded and sexually open.


There are at least 2 clubs (KitKat and Insomnia) where this does occasionally occur - I´ve heard of a few others. If you search ye Olde Interweb, you can see how it works - have to dress the part (fetish mode encouraged). Would also say German girls' reputation is definitely true, and Berlin especially as it´s kind of a tradition here. It was even more so in the wild East behind the Wall-sort of the one area where anything went.

If you are civilized, not too pushy and show a little charm and humour, great things can happen easily (isn´t that odd...?). I´d try more but simply don´t have the time and need to increase the odds to 100%, when there is time. Plus being in a steady relationship, risks too great for complications. And as this forum, and the one covering the local Love Bahnhoff (Artemis) chronicle, the mongering scene is pretty ripe. I feel safer in these realms but to each his own..

But WorldBank, shouldn´t you be focussed on making responsible loans to developing countries?????

[Rocketboy0]

Komrades

Does anyone have any first hand recent field experience from The Chateau, Haubachstr 22 in Charlottenburg near U R Wagner. Website(s) seem down and can´t find no nothing. Is it even open?? Thanks. Tired of Artemis which is just seeming stale....

[Angus Magee]

Komrades

Does anyone have any first hand recent field experience from The Chateau, Haubachstr 22 in Charlottenburg near U R Wagner. Website(s) seem down and can´t find no nothing. Is it even open?? Thanks. Tired of Artemis which is just seeming stale....


Hi RB,

I went there once but it was probably about 2-3 years back. I was always tempted by the girls found on the web page. Upon arrival though I found girls who looked nothing like the girls shown on the website. Rather they were all older and looking very rough. I sat and ordered a 10 euro draft beer and was set immediately upon by a girl who wanted a 200 euro bottle of champagne before she would even consider going to a room. This sort of behavior I can well understand with a girl who was, say, a 8.5-9.5 in looks. But this girl I remember was truly awful and very aggressive in her approach. I drank my beer and fled as fast as I could. But the website was working when I tried it.

http://www.chateau-girls.de/

As for alternatives to Artemis-I really think that your choices are limited. You could always give La Folie a try. Much less to get in (14 euros last time I was there) but the girl selection is limited and not top tier IMO. But certainly not terrible and if you find a girl you like...

Be warned tough, La Folie is probably one of the smokiest environments I have ever experienced. If you go you can be sure that you will leave, even with your clothes stashed in a locker, reeking of smoke. If you have a significant other best be prepared with a story that includes a visit to a smokey bar because you will smell of cigarette smoke when you get home.

There is also a place over in east Berlin, Friedrichshain, called Carena. I have not read much about it in the German forums but have always thought it looks worth a visit. But I can well imagine that you will be asked to buy lady drinks. Hopefully though it will be of the cheaper piccolo variety. Here is the website.

http://www.party-live.de/

Another possibility is L'amour 2a.

http://www.lamour2a.de/index.php?id=girls&lang=de

This is actually more of a bordello than a club but they do have a small bar where you can sit and have a drink or two, meeting the ladies if you like, before deciding which one to chose. I have been here twice and both times had good experiences. The only thing I would have to say though is that while you are welcome to sit and have a drink, it is not a place that I personally would want to spend too many hours hanging out like I do in Artemis. But then drinking has a very limited appeal to me.

Finally there would be the King George flat rate club. My misgivings aside, this place has had several good reviews here on ISG and plenty of praise on the German boards.

[Angus Magee]

The first girl is gorgeous but I can't see contact details listed anywhere on that site I haven't used it before, can someone help me out?

Anything more about Jessy would be nice also


It says on the website that if you are interested in contacting this girl you need to do so though the website. I am not sure how to do that though I imagine it involves registering on the site. If this registration costs money I do not know.

AM

[Angus Magee]

There are at least 2 clubs (KitKat and Insomnia) where this does occasionally occur - I´ve heard of a few others.

If memory serves there is a review some pages back of Insomnia. I think the reviewer visited on a GB night and had a fairly positive experience.

As for the KitKat-I myself visited a number of years back. As I understand it the KitKat has been around for many years in Berlin but is not a club per-say, rather a group of people who are into the SM/fetish scene and run the club in various locations. That is there is no permanent club but it moves from place to place.

When I went it was in a big old warehouse in Templehof. I went with a female friend who is actually a lesbian and we arrived as a couple with her pretending to be my mistress...

Old Angus was dressed for the occasion in the male equivalent of a thong (I guess you could call it a fancy jockstrap) and little else. The atmosphere was reasonably friendly, more or less hetero and not at all unpleasant. But it was also very heavily geared towards the fetish scene.

I did not see very much sex at all. I do remember seeing a girl being publicly fisted and plenty of nudity. There was also a very graphic SM show later in the evening involving whips and dildos in all holes.

My one caveat, as I mentioned before, is that this atmosphere is by no means strictly a straight environment. That is you will have to be comfortable with partying along side gay men and lesbians as they do make up a large part of the cliental. In my experience nobody there is in anyway pushy about their sexuality, but it is there and you have to be secure enough to deal with it if you see men kissing and even perhaps sucking each other off.

The other thing is that getting past the door might be a bit difficult for single hetero males. When I went, as mentioned, I was with a female and thus was admitted without question. But after an hour my friend wanted to leave. I was told at that point that I would have to leave with her. They are not to enthusiastic about having unknown single men milling about. I was told that single straight men often cause problems they wish to avoid. It was only after talking with the door woman at length about myself that I was permitted to stay.

So I do think that if you show up as a single male, obviously a tourist, you might just have difficulty getting in. Other than that it was sort a fun evening though I was never in the least tempted to go back. But then the whole SM/fetish thing does little for me.

[Jedi 1977]

Hi guys

I am going to Amsterdam for a concert on the 18th, and following with a concert in Berlin on the 20th, and then staying for a couple of days.

Regarding Berlin this is my first time there, and my first experience with p4p outside of Thailand.

I have been studying the board and a lot of websites. This is what I have come up with as far as ideas and questions:

I want to visit King George to experience the closest western civilization has so far come to the fall of Rome. Seriously, a flat rate all you can fuck? That has got to be tried. As sick as it is.

Then I have my eye on this girl at L'amour: http://www.Lamour2a. De/index.php? Id=girls&lang=en&model_id=24

Her brown eyes sound good, and the body is just my type. But I hear bad things about L'amour on the forum, any tips?

I also want to try Caligula's flat rate but reviews have been scarce and comments pretty negative. Any new info on that, or should I just take one for the team and report?

Then there is the "2 for 1" craze going on (http://www.Club-sternchen. De/ and http://www.Erotische-modelle. De/index.html and http://www.Stella-berlin. De/index.php? Home).

Well I never tried two girls so I am thinking about it. Does anyone have any info on these offers? Are they for real, and are they worth anything?

Is there a better place (better girls with whom) to get that first experience?

Then last but for me definitely not least, this girl Cheyenne at MARISSAGE:

http://www.Omello.de/modelle/girl-cheyenne-aus-berlin-blonder-traum-mit-blauen-augen-000257.php

Site says nothing about price, so I will have to give them a call, but she looks fantastic (to me). Just my type in every way, especially the face. Have you guys got info on this place. Apparently it's just two girls working there at the moment.

Any input on these ideas and girls will be most welcome. And anyone wanting to meet up for a beer is welcome too.

Thank you for a great forum, and sorry I have so far only really posted on a Phuket site.

[Rocketboy0]

Hi RB,

I went there once but it was probably about 2-3 years back. I was always tempted by the girls found on the web page. Upon arrival though I found girls who looked nothing like the girls shown on the website. ...Be warned tough, La Folie is probably one of the smokiest environments I have ever experienced. ...There is also a place over in east Berlin, Friedrichshain, called Carena. I have not read much about it in the German forums but have always thought it looks worth a visit. http://www.party-live.de/

Another possibility is L'amour 2a.

http://www.lamour2a.de/index.php?id=girls&lang=de

This is actually more of a bordello than a club but they do have a small bar where you can sit and have a drink or two, meeting the ladies if you like, before deciding which one to chose. I have been here twice and both times had good experiences.

Hi Angus - as always, your knowledge is encyclopedic. I shall ponder a rethink, though I have been to all without much oomph, over the years.
On the other - indeed after being down for hours yesterday, the Chateau website swallowed its digital Viagra and was finally up. I was underwhelmed to the max and your comments above nailed the coffin shut.

I did stray over to Van Kampen recently to be quite pleasantly surprised to become reacquainted with a long lost, scortching hot bed buddy (Holly) whom I can highly recommend. You have to like your tall Teutonic busty blondes but she is just on fire. Even though it´s a nice place, VK is still somehow a paragon of disorganization - always delays, confusion between who picks up the phone and what is really going on, etc. Just have to allow plenty of time for as the Brits say - faffing about.

I believe the cure is a trip to the Rhein-Main O-zone- hopefully end May if weather, wallet, and volcanic clouds cooperate.

[Angus Magee]

I believe the cure is a trip to the Rhein-Main O-zone- hopefully end May if weather, wallet, and volcanic clouds cooperate.


Hi RB,

Well from the sounds of it you may well be suffering from Mongers Malaise. That is when one just can not seem to find what one wants. It brings to mind this particular anthem to dissatisfaction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgtBDG6_gcQ

Maybe not everyone's cup 'o tea but I like the plaintive energy of wanting something new expressed in the song.

And I do think a road trip may well be the cure (at least short term) for monger's malaise.

Life is indeed "short and filled with stuff".

[Rocketboy0]

Angus - this could indeed be the disease. Thanks - I did not know it had a name and I´ll have to take this up with my doctor.

Before / beyond The Cramps, there was of course that other little thing by Mick & Keith, involving a certain lack of Satisfaction.

The "before" is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVEN0KE2VC0

and the "after" here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXcNQTa3zgs

[Angus Magee]

Then I have my eye on this girl at L'amour: http://www.Lamour2a.de/index.php?id=girls&lang=en&model_id=24

Her brown eyes sound good, and the body is just my type. But I hear bad things about L'amour on the forum, any tips?

Not sure where you have heard bad things about L'Amour2a on this forum. Certainly not from me. While I can not say if it is the best bordello available in Berlin it is most certainly not the worst. I myself have been there twice (reports written) and had not a bad time. The place does seem to have a line on some very tasty looking talent. And the place does have the advantage of being on the inexpensive side of Berlin pricing so you do not risk that much.


I also want to try Caligula's flat rate but reviews have been scarce and comments pretty negative. Any new info on that, or should I just take one for the team and report?

The place has a bad rep & a bad feel to it. But as long as you don't go expecting a GFE it could be worth a visit. Over all though, from reports written, I'd say King George is a safer bet. And I do not really think that there will be much difference when it comes to the quality of the talent.



IThen there is the "2 for 1" craze going on (http://www.club-sternchen.de/ and http://www.erotische-modelle.de/index.html and http://www.stella-berlin.de/index.php?home).

I would give Sternchen a miss. My two or three visits there were pretty bad. Let's just say that the girls offered were nothing like the girls shown on the web page. Mac is a good choice if a bit rough and I have heard good things about Stella-Berlin but no experience myself.

As for the two for one....

Who knows what you will find. But in my experience a duo has to be well orchestrated if it is to be any good. I personally would rather pay a bit more and get a decent session. Throwing away cash on girls who are not really into it is never much of a savings in the end.



last but for me definitely not least, this girl Cheyenne at Marissage:

http://www.Omello.de/modelle/girl-cheyenne-aus-berlin-blonder-traum-mit-blauen-augen-000257.php

Site says nothing about price, so I will have to give them a call, but she looks fantastic (to me). Just my type in every way, especially the face. Have you guys got info on this place. Apparently it's just two girls working there at the moment.

Uncharted territory. There you will have to TOFTT.

Have fun and remember to write your report.

AM

[Amitabh Bhachan]

Hello, All, I am still in Berlin until tomorrow nigh, but as soon as I arrived, I went to Liberty as advised. I was taken aback by the surroundings and the welcome by the lady who answered the door. I was asked to be seated, offered a drink.

Then a few ladies came and introduced themselves, they were all in the 8. 5. 9. 5 range so I was very pleased. I chose a beautiful looking girl wearing a bodice,. Sophia and we went to a room.

The room was the cream room, excellent surroundings. Sophia is absolutely beautiful, she is extremely well spoken and fantastic in the sack, she kissed very passionately and we had a great 50 mins or so together.(I did not pay for 1 Hr).

We had such a good time together. She has agreed to see me tomorrow on her day off!. I'm off to try King George tonight will report back soon

Thanks to everyone for the advice. Really enjoying Berlin.

[Gold777]

Do anyone know if asian customers/guests are welcomed at german brothels/FFK?

I'm considering going on a "tour" since I'm stuck in Berlin for month, but not so sure if the brothels/clubs/ffk accepts asian customers in general. I had in particular planned to visit King George, as Iæm pretty curious how this works.

[Angus Magee]

Do anyone know if asian customers/guests are welcomed at german brothels/FFK?

I'm considering going on a "tour" since I'm stuck in Berlin for month, but not so sure if the brothels/clubs/ffk accepts asian customers in general. I had in particular planned to visit King George, as Iæm pretty curious how this works.


I have never heard of any discrimination against Asians at any of the better bordellos (nor the not so good ones for that matter) in Berlin. If you have the money required, are clean, polite and cause no problems I am sure that you will be welcomed. As I understand it Asians are often well liked by the girls as they have the reputation for having money. This is of prime importance.

[Angus Magee]

A short report from RTL TV (in German of course) about street prostitution in Berlin. Showing the nastier and probably a wee but sensationalistic side of the business. I did not understand completely in a single viewing but I understood that they were highlighting the dangers and the fact that the girls are, in the current economic environment, slashing prices.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQHMgUkfXS0

AM

[Sprocket]

What's your experience when it comes to analsex in brothels? Being a bit of a fan of analsex I think it's worth the extra euros, but I've had some bad experiences where the girl was not all clean, which is a huge turnoff. I was in Dusseldorf recently and visited a brothel, after we agreed on anal she told me I had to wait a little while for her to clean her ass (inside also). Other times I've been to brothels the girl did not do this. But it was all worth the wait, she was 100% clean and the session was fantastic.

Did anyone meet girls in Berlin area who does this cleaning procedure before an anal session?

[Ed Setra]

How could I resist? The invitation translation included “…you are invited to personally explore the Greek position with members of the XXXXX German Sekretariat…..”
Now, maybe I’ve been out of the game for too long. My mind was hoping rather more for an exploration of the nether regions of nubile German executive assistants than discussions with Teutonic accountants about fiscal deficits. Never mind, off to Berlin anyway for a couple of days. Unfortunately accompanied this trip by less enlightened souls so a long overdue return visit to Artemis would have to be postponed to another time, but there would probably be an occasional hour or so to investigate other opportunities.
And so armed with Angus Magee’s latest city guide (http://www.internationalsexguide.in...&postcount=1936), from which I copied and pasted relevant sections to a word doc on a memory stick along with some recent reports from Mass Monger (#2034) among others, I was ready for action if a suitable window were to present itself.
An hour to spare after lunch in the Ka De We locale, so off to Liberty (http://www.libertyberlin.de/) to see what the line-up was like. Walked down Martin-Lutherstrasse just past the intersection with (I kid you not) Fuggerstrasse to number 14 where a young and pert, heavily made up fraulein was approaching the front door, presumably to start her shift. Clearly labelled doorbell, buzzed in and up two floors where I was welcomed and shown to a nice room. Alas, Miss Pert was not in the line up, but an adequate selection nevertheless for the time of day. I chose Anastasia, a pretty petite perfectly proportioned Russian, who would probably be described by our colonial cousins as a spinner. A very good time was enjoyed and I would recommend. As Angus has mentioned, be careful of the pricing structure where a basic time based price includes covered oral and sex. All extras are charged for such as kissing, BBJ and so on to a standard house price. Kissing €20, BBJ €20, Korperbesamung €10, etc. I never felt upsold though and Anastasia was a delight, well worth the kissing extra charge.
On the following day a similar opportunity presented itself. Time for a quickie only, so I decided to go for a value option and headed to Freudenhaus (http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de). Changed S-Bahn lines at Friedrichstrasse to a northern bound one for a few stops to Humboldthain. Out of the station turn left onto Hochstrasse and walk 50 metres to an opening on the left where number 45 comprises two houses back from the street in a courtyard. On the left side is the Laufhaus and on the right is a house with Modelle (?). Don’t understand the distinction here, perhaps Angus can enlighten as to the difference? Anyways buzzed into Laufhaus and walked each of the floors. Not a great selection, but some business being done so didn’t see everyone. I returned to the ground level and chose a Polish girl (name escapes me, apologies, and cannot recognise her from the website but she was in the first available room on the left). Twenty minutes for €30, CBJ and sex with position change. Fun but probably would not repeat.
My thanks to all posters here, especially Angus.

[Angus Magee]

On the left side is the Laufhaus and on the right is a house with Modelle (?). Don’t understand the distinction here, perhaps Angus can enlighten as to the difference? Hi Gandax,

First many thanks for the report-especially the info about Anastasia. I can not help but wonder if it is the same girl who used to work at Desire Erotik and now appears also on the Caligula web page. From the Liberty pics I would say it is unlikely but you never know. Those pics can be misleading. One question if I might-did the Anastasia you saw have small but pronounced puffy nipples? In any case here is a link to the Caligula Anastasia pics to see if you can help make an ID.

http://www.caligula-berlin.de/bordell/anastasija.html

As for the other bordello at #45-there has been several in that location but they never seem to last for more than a few months. I do not know why but I guess it may be the competition offered by Freudenhaus?

I am not at all sure what, if anything, is located there at this time.

AM

[Ed Setra]

Hi Angus,

Thanks for your comments. No I think my Anastasia is different. The Liberty pictures seem pretty accurate without any or much photoshopping. She was certainly younger than the Caligula girl and facially different too. Nipples not particularly puffy either, sorry, just as you see in the Liberty pics.

Regarding #45, there was certainly some business in the Modelle building last week. As I approached the Laufhaus building there was loud rapping on a ground floor window to attract my attention and that of another punter but I could'nt see in the window. I ignored it and went into the Laufhaus. Reminded me of other cities(Brussels, Amsterdam maybe) where providers try to attract attention as you walk past windows.

[Filou]

The first girl is gorgeous but I can't see contact details listed anywhere on that site I haven't used it before, can someone help me out?I exchanged some emails with her. Her prices are 50 EUR for 30 min and 100 EUR for 60 min. Her extras are 20 EUR for french kissing and 40 EUR for anal. She has a homepage at
http://evelineblack.oyla.de I didn't visit her so I cannot add a report.

[Ubique]

I'll be in Berlin in a few days & my girlfriend's very excited to explore a fantasy about having a lap dance perfomed on her. While I watch, supervise, and assist. I am of the opinion that if she's going to have the dance, she should have the option of being able to touch and play if she is so inclined.

I don't think she'd be comfortable in a semi-bordello scene and it is important for her to be able to choose the woman for the performance.

I suppose we'd also be open to a swinger type of deal & we both are younger looking, hip. Yadda yaddya.

We would be most appreciative of advice for a few places to explore the lap dance or a place where perhaps in a swinger context, she and I could examine this fantasy.

Thanks in advance.

[Mtraveller]

I dont want to over-generalize, there are exceptions, but street girls all over the world and certainly in Europe are like this. Minimal service as fast as possible. Most of the time its required to negotiate all details beforehand to avoid disappointment. In the brothels the service is kind of fixed also quality varies.
To get a girl from the street fulfill your fantasy you need to become very self confident address her directly with a price suggestion and the services you want and most importantly pay afterwards (or pay half of it afterwards and tell her this in advance). Sounds strange, but this is the way it works. I dont work the streets much, at worst bars, but in any place where things are negotiated freely such disappointments are common (had my own) and such are the rules.


I am 23 year old guy living and working Berlin. I went to Oranienstrasse to pick up a prostitute tonight. I did not have to walk up and down the street too many times before I was solicited by a really hot girl. She said, "Do you want to go to my room? " (auf Deutsch). I responded "naturally, How much? " She said 50 for a BJ in park, 80 to go into a room.

Of course, I could not resist this offer of only 80 Euros to have sex with such a hot girl and hastily agreed. It was kind of (actually make that really) embarrassing to have to walk side by side with her until we got to the place where her room was, but whatever.

I only had a 100 Euros since I had two 50 EUR bills, so I asked if she could please give me change afterwards. She said that was fine. I knew there was a high likelihood I would never see those twenty EUR, but I still thought at the time 100 EUR to have sex with this girl is a bargain.

So I get naked and she gives me a massage. Meh, I hate these and never want them.

So then she gives me a HJ with condom! And, get this, fakes giving me a blowjob or at least I am 90% sure she was faking. It was really fucking weird. Anyone ever heard of a girl doing this? Can I request that she get down on her knees and let me stand? Why the hell do I always have to lie down and have them not look at me when giving me a BJ? Can't I ever receive one like they are meant to be received?

Anyway, then I'm about to cum so I tell her to please stop so that we can have sex. Her response shocked me: 150 EUR in order to have sex!

Since when did a ***** asking you to come into her room mean, "I will give you a handjob with a condom on and nothing more"?

I argued a bit, but could see I was getting nowhere so just sucked it up and told her to finish the HJ.

However, she was not done trying to swindle me.

She asked if I wanted to see her breasts. Of course I said yes.

I came about two minutes after this. However, as I was getting dressed, I reminded her of the 20 EUR she still owed me as change. She said she would change money as soon as she went downstairs.

Literally a minute later, though, she informs me that seeing her breasts costs 50 EUR normally, but because she is so generous she will only charge me 20! It was as though our previous conversation had never happened!

Anyway, is this typical behavior of Oranienstraße prostitues?

I'm not a very assertive guy, so is there a way for me to avoid having this happen to me in the future?

I got to admit, I like the idea of street prostitutes much more than brothels. The idea of seeing a really hot girl on the street and then having sex with her is much more of a fantasy come true for me than seeing a girl in as artificial a setting as a brothel.

Thanks for any advice on how to

A. Get a BJ while standing

B. Actually have sex with a street girl.

[Mr Styles]

Dear all,

Can anyone guide me for the best budget female comapnion. As I will be visiting by June. July. We are having expo there. So need good company with me. It will be for 3 days. The female partner can stay with me.Hi,

From your name I assume you are from India. I have been there and done that, but this is impossible in Berlin. If you are not good at picking up girls, forget this. They are not interested in staying with you. You can get good sex, but you have to pay by the hour/ half hour. In that you have a wide range.

[Angus Magee]

Hi,

From your name I assume you are from India. I have been there and done that, but this is impossible in Berlin. If you are not good at picking up girls, forget this. They are not interested in staying with you. You can get good sex, but you have to pay by the hour/ half hour. In that you have a wide range.


I have to agree with Mr Styles though from your post I am not 100% clear what you are looking for. If you want a companion to stay the whole three days with you this will be expensive. Probably in the neighborhood of 3-4 thousand euros. You maybe could cut a deal with a cheaper agency but then I wonder if you could find a girl with whom you would want to spend three full days. The type of arrangement you seem to be after is probably more suited to somewhere like Thailand.

[Sex Quest]

Any casual sex/Personals websites for Berlin? I know they had some magazines in the past, but it's been sometime since I've used them, I bet there must be something online.

[Angus Magee]

Any casual sex/Personals websites for Berlin? I know they had some magazines in the past, but it's been sometime since I've used them, I bet there must be something online.


Well there are the usual dating sites that are basically the same the world over. "Free" sign up but then in order to actually contact anyone you have to pay. And there are a lot of time wasters on line.

The following is a German site for casual sex seekers. You do have to speak German or use a translator to navigate. There are plenty of pros on this site but they are clearly marked as having financial interest.

http://www.poppen.de/home

Personally, after having spent way too much time in the past with this type of board, I kind f think it is just so much easier to go for the pros. But that is just me having not much patience for the game playing often found on dating sites.

You could also try plenty of fish-

http://www.plentyoffish.com/

This is an actual free world wide dating site. I have a couple of N. American friends who use it with success there. I don't know how good their international pages are. Again, I suspect you have to wade through a lot of game players. But at least it is free.

[Charlie 123]

I have reported here previously upon a couple of monstrously good sessions that I've had recently with Madeleine from this agency. Her unavailibility on Tuesday evening turned out to be a blessing in disguise in the person of Simona:

http://www.Klein-zierlich. De/escortservice-berlin-simona.html

She, like her sister Madeleine, is a severly cute little thing, perhaps 5'2'' tall with a super-slim body and not 'an ounce of waste'. She is really pretty, with an engaging smile and lively personality. A friendly girl who knows how to enjoy herself in the sack (great combination)

Her kissing style is unusual. An open-mouthed 'technique' that is difficult to explain but reminiscient for me a an ex long-term girlfriend who kissed in the same way. I had just returned from a 5-hour (yes 5!) session with Selma at Artemis, so I wasn't really in best shape for a super-hot session with a 25 yr old hottie like Simona, but she managed to engender an encounter that will sustain me in my memory well into old age.

Her BJ technique is first-class, she loves to be licked out and has a sweet-tasting wet little pussy and is an energetic fuck with seemingly limitless energy. Maybe she is like this with all punters, but I suspect that we somewhat clicked together 'because she got really turned on too.

Three notes of warning:

1. Her price, like Madeleine's, is now also 120E plus travelling costs (up from 100E)

2. When she gets excited, she scratches. Hard!

3. She leaves in a month and may well not return. Get yours now, while stocks last!

Charlie

[Playful Mark]

Hi,

I'm visiting Berlin for a few weeks, came across this great forum and would like to add my 2 cents.

I had a one hour session with Jenniffer at KD about a week and a half ago. I arrived without an appointment and was brought into their waiting room. Jenniffer, a cute petit blonde was the second girl I was introduced to, and upon seeing her I had to ask if she does the things I like. French kissing and two-sided oral. She answered in the affirmative, and we were away. What followed was probably the best GFE I've ever had.

Happy times indeed.

[Markis]

As many of you know, Wilmersdorf has more than its share of fine brothels like Kamilla Dee and Van Kampen. Royal is usually added to the list, and today I went for the first time. Gee, upsell for everything and shortened 15 minutes on a 45 minute stint with a girl named Chanelle.

Well for me there is no comparison between this place and the other places: it's undisciplined rip-off.

[Unter]

I previously reported a truly terrible, unsatisfying experience with a prostitute on Oranienburger Strasse. My misfortune then was partially my own fault: I didn't specify what I wanted, and I did not obtain verification as to what it was I was paying for.

This time my stupidity began right from the start as I picked up two girls instead of one! Considering how terrible I am at sex to begin with and my inability to even satisfy one girl let alone two, I simply do not know I was thinking! Actually, I know exactly what I was thinking: I was thinking that one of these two women, Clara, is the hottest prostitute I have ever seen in my entire life. Seriously, she's an incontestable 10. Or at least she has a very pretty face. Whether she uses multiple nicknames and would indentify herself as Clara if asked, I do not know. I will henceforth identify her as such, however, as it is the only name I have.

Anyway, so I made sure to specify this time what it was I was paying. I repeated more than a few times that I would be getting 160 EUR for sex. I didn't see how things could go badly this time as we had so clearly agreed on the price and what would take place.

Almost immediately upon entering the room the price went up to 200 EUR because they wanted drinks. My suspicions had been drawn, but I was still hopeful.

Then apparently I can get nothing unless I pay 500 EUR, I. E., 300 more. Apparently the sex they agreed to can mean a handjob even though I said outside I wanted standard vaginal intercourse. I foresaw this trick, took the necessary precaution, and they, nevertheless, still played it! It didn't matter at all what they had said beforehand. The ease with which they lied was slightly impressive.

Well, I thought to myself, this is totally ridiculous, but god damn it I've already spent 200 EUR (not yet recognized as sunk cost), there's no way I'm leaving until I have sex with Clara. Honestly, in my delusional frame of my mind, I earnestly believed that having sex with her would somehow fundamentally change my life. I figured that it would elevate me in some mysterious way above other men. I knew that once I had had sex with her, I would have slept with a hotter woman than well over 80% of guys. I don't know why this insane idea took hold of me and took away all my powers of logic and reasoning, but it did.

Actually, my agreeing to pay this extra 300 EUR fee was not my stupidest decision of the night. I actually gave the older, unattractive woman my debit card and pin number so that she could withdraw the 300 EUR from some cash machine upstairs. Honestly, I don't know what was going through my head. They were just giving me all these assurances about how prostitution is legal in Germany and how I had nothing to worry about that I assented without much deliberation. I still don't know whether or not they took more, but I have cancelled my card tonight. Rather inconveniently my bank, Sparkasse, does not allow a balance check until 6 A. M this morning, so I won't know until tomorrow the true extent of their dishonesty. I'm just hoping they didn't take more than 500 extra. I do wonder if I will have any legal recourse in the event that they took more than the 300 Euros we agreed upon.

After the undesirable one came back with the money, I got the same fake blowjob from Clara that I received with the last prostitute I picked up. Actually, to be fair I think she might have given me a partial blowjob, but it was total shit anyway. I asked if she could turn around so I could see her face, but apparently my 500 EUR didn't pay for the "girlfriend experience" so this was impossible. Hmm. When I finally got to have sex with Clara it was the biggest letdown of my life. Only one position, reverse cowgirl with me lying flat on the bed. It was horribly painful as she kept hitting my stomach on each penetration. I begged and pleaded to be allowed to try another position, but this would cost 800 more Euros! I need to pay it for both of them too, even though I had absolutely no attraction whatsoever to the other one. Honestly, she repulsed me with her boob job scars.

I really just don't get what the big deal would have been to let me have sex in a different position or to give me a regular BJ. I mean, once they knew they couldn't squeeze any more money out of me, why couldn't they provide me with at least a half-effort?

Suffice it to say, it was one of the most miserable experiences of my life. If you see an incredibly hot blonde girl with an older woman on Oranienburger Strasse RUN unless you are prepared to part with more than a 1000 Euros. Actually, I don't even know if that will buy you anything. I'm guessing you can keep paying them and paying them and you will get so little in return for each payment that you could wind up spending your entire savings and still not be able to have sex with her like a normal human being.

And then to top it off, at the end they were picking on me! It was a truly amazing, somewhat unbelievable experience. Honestly, while I was hurt by the things they were saying (you don't know how to please a woman, you are strange, what's wrong with you etc.), at the same time I did sort of feel like laughing as their gall was simply so incredible.

Here I had given them 500 EUR, and yet they were standing there bitching? Is it not part of their job to be good actors? I simply don't understand what they gained by this final display.

What's also kind of funny is that at the end is that the cleverer Clara opines that the next time I visit a prostitute it will be at Artemis. I responded that indeed I most certainly would be going there next time. Then the old one chimed in that many of the girls there have Aids. While the statement is incredibly stupid, she might have a point. Her and her partner Clara's decision to not have sex with their clients has probably provided them with considerable protection from STD'S.

I just hope I can spare other guys the pain I have experienced tonight. I don't know if this is their regular area, but at least tonight, they were directly across the park.

[Unter]

Please is there anyone who can help me? What should I do? I was able to access my details and they took 2000 EUR! Amazing that they still didn't give me the proper service knowing they had done this. I would greatly appreciate any help.

[Unter]

I went to the police today, but I am almost certain they will be of no help.

I seriously cannot believe how stupid I am sometimes.

What a costly mistake!

[Angus Magee]

What is there to say Unter???

Before I read the details I felt kind of bad for you. But when I read that you gave your bankcard & pin number to a hooker to withdraw money....

The mind boggles at this stupidity.

Either this is some kind of joke you are bringing in here to the forum or you truly win the award for the punter most likely to think with his cock. Kiss the money goodbye and next time take the advice of the forum and go to a bordello.

That is all I have to say.

Sheeeesh.

One more word her Unter-as I reread your story I have to say a good part of me does not really believe it. Then I remember something I did way back when I was prowling the streets. I also lost a good deal of money (no where near 2000-more like 300 but it was 30 years back so it was significant) doing something equally as stupid. So don't feel too bad. It is an unfortunate part of the learning.

AM

[Travelerb69]

I previously reported a truly terrible, unsatisfying experience with a prostitute on Oranienburger Strasse. My misfortune then was partially my own fault: I didn't specify what I wanted, and I did not obtain verification as to what it was I was paying for.

This time my stupidity began right from the start as I picked up two girls instead of one! Considering how terrible I am at sex to begin with and my inability to even satisfy one girl let alone two, I simply do not know I was thinking! Actually, I know exactly what I was thinking: I was thinking that one of these two women, Clara, is the hottest prostitute I have ever seen in my entire life. Seriously, she's an incontestable 10. Or at least she has a very pretty face. Whether she uses multiple nicknames and would indentify herself as Clara if asked, I do not know. I will henceforth identify her as such, however, as it is the only name I have.

Anyway, so I made sure to specify this time what it was I was paying. I repeated more than a few times that I would be getting 160 EUR for sex. I didn't see how things could go badly this time as we had so clearly agreed on the price and what would take place.

Almost immediately upon entering the room the price went up to 200 EUR because they wanted drinks. My suspicions had been drawn, but I was still hopeful.

Then apparently I can get nothing unless I pay 500 EUR, I. E., 300 more. Apparently the sex they agreed to can mean a handjob even though I said outside I wanted standard vaginal intercourse. I foresaw this trick, took the necessary precaution, and they, nevertheless, still played it! It didn't matter at all what they had said beforehand. The ease with which they lied was slightly impressive.

Well, I thought to myself, this is totally ridiculous, but god damn it I've already spent 200 EUR (not yet recognized as sunk cost), there's no way I'm leaving until I have sex with Clara. Honestly, in my delusional frame of my mind, I earnestly believed that having sex with her would somehow fundamentally change my life. I figured that it would elevate me in some mysterious way above other men. I knew that once I had had sex with her, I would have slept with a hotter woman than well over 80% of guys. I don't know why this insane idea took hold of me and took away all my powers of logic and reasoning, but it did.

Actually, my agreeing to pay this extra 300 EUR fee was not my stupidest decision of the night. I actually gave the older, unattractive woman my debit card and pin number so that she could withdraw the 300 EUR from some cash machine upstairs. Honestly, I don't know what was going through my head. They were just giving me all these assurances about how prostitution is legal in Germany and how I had nothing to worry about that I assented without much deliberation. I still don't know whether or not they took more, but I have cancelled my card tonight. Rather inconveniently my bank, Sparkasse, does not allow a balance check until 6 A. M this morning, so I won't know until tomorrow the true extent of their dishonesty. I'm just hoping they didn't take more than 500 extra. I do wonder if I will have any legal recourse in the event that they took more than the 300 Euros we agreed upon.

After the undesirable one came back with the money, I got the same fake blowjob from Clara that I received with the last prostitute I picked up. Actually, to be fair I think she might have given me a partial blowjob, but it was total shit anyway. I asked if she could turn around so I could see her face, but apparently my 500 EUR didn't pay for the "girlfriend experience" so this was impossible. Hmm. When I finally got to have sex with Clara it was the biggest letdown of my life. Only one position, reverse cowgirl with me lying flat on the bed. It was horribly painful as she kept hitting my stomach on each penetration. I begged and pleaded to be allowed to try another position, but this would cost 800 more Euros! I need to pay it for both of them too, even though I had absolutely no attraction whatsoever to the other one. Honestly, she repulsed me with her boob job scars.

I really just don't get what the big deal would have been to let me have sex in a different position or to give me a regular BJ. I mean, once they knew they couldn't squeeze any more money out of me, why couldn't they provide me with at least a half-effort?

Suffice it to say, it was one of the most miserable experiences of my life. If you see an incredibly hot blonde girl with an older woman on Oranienburger Strasse RUN unless you are prepared to part with more than a 1000 Euros. Actually, I don't even know if that will buy you anything. I'm guessing you can keep paying them and paying them and you will get so little in return for each payment that you could wind up spending your entire savings and still not be able to have sex with her like a normal human being.

And then to top it off, at the end they were picking on me! It was a truly amazing, somewhat unbelievable experience. Honestly, while I was hurt by the things they were saying (you don't know how to please a woman, you are strange, what's wrong with you etc.), at the same time I did sort of feel like laughing as their gall was simply so incredible.

Here I had given them 500 EUR, and yet they were standing there bitching? Is it not part of their job to be good actors? I simply don't understand what they gained by this final display.

What's also kind of funny is that at the end is that the cleverer Clara opines that the next time I visit a prostitute it will be at Artemis. I responded that indeed I most certainly would be going there next time. Then the old one chimed in that many of the girls there have Aids. While the statement is incredibly stupid, she might have a point. Her and her partner Clara's decision to not have sex with their clients has probably provided them with considerable protection from STD'S.

I just hope I can spare other guys the pain I have experienced tonight. I don't know if this is their regular area, but at least tonight, they were directly across the park.

This is a joke, and a bad one, not the place to do it. Do not take this seriously, guy is being ironical, nobody is that stupid.

[Angus Magee]

This is a joke, and a bad one, not the place to do it. Do not take this seriously, guy is being ironical, nobody is that stupid.

You may well be right. But then as I mentioned, I did do something that was pretty equally stupid when I was much younger and in pursuit of pussy. But as I have reviewed Unter's postings I think he goes now on my ignore list. If he is not careful he might just become a Darwin Award contender.

AM

[Ortos]

This is a joke, and a bad one, not the place to do it. Do not take this seriously, guy is being ironical, nobody is that stupid.

Absolutely I agree with Trav 69: Nobody is that STUPID!!!!

Angus: Delete your RofD post! LoL

[Bearsk]

Unter
Maybe you have previously received a Darwin award

http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2009-23.html

You need a performance coach or trip to the room of mirrors for a good look at yourself or both.
If this BS continues then you will be placed on our blocked lists.
BSK



I went to the police today, but I am almost certain they will be of no help.

I seriously cannot believe how stupid I am sometimes.

What a costly mistake!

[Elve65]

I arrived to Schönefeld airport and directly tried to find the flatrate bordello close by, did not success. Went with S-bahn and U-bahn to my hotel at Bülowstrasse. Got out for short walk to see if there was any nice SWs, but it was obviously to early in the day for that. Decided to go to the next flat rate bordello on my "to do list", walked to King George.

It was actually a nice time, I had low expectations, but was proved wrong. For the money, 99euro, it was great payback. Hade sex whit 4 girls, two nice sessions and two so-and-so, but no bad session. The girls was young and with ordinary looks, all easteuropean. However it was impossible for me to repeat sessions with the god ones, they refused. I don't know why? Maybe because I always stayed the full time in room(30min). I think the girls preferred fast cumming clients?. And I wasn't the only guy there. There were 6 girls and maybe 5 men there on that Sunday. I stay for 4-5 hours and then got tired of the place and the cigarette smoke and was very hungry to. Got back to hotel for shower and out for early dinner. After dinner got a nice long walk around Schöneberg trying to decide my next move, stopped a couple of times for beer and finally decided to go back to hotel for early night. However now the SW started to show themselves so I look around and got a very nice BJ from a nice Czech girl I find outside the LSD building, 20Euro+5Euro for the "room" at LSD. Then goodnight.

Next day more sightseeing and planning my next move. At this time I realized that I wanted a more "classy" girl and the flat rate concept was out of question for that. I went to Monrouge at Leibnitzstrasse. And had a great 1 hour session with Sibil, 130Euro. (I was hoping for weekday specialprice, but that was not offered) But still a great session. After this I was quite satisfied and rest of my trip I drank beer and hade good meals. Next trip will be in October and Artemis is on top of the list.

Thank you all for posting and giving me god material to plan this trip. Special thanks of course to Angus Magee!

[Basketcase]

This is a joke, and a bad one, not the place to do it. Do not take this seriously, guy is being ironical, nobody is that stupid.
Travelerb69 and Ortos,

I believe Unter since I have been there too. I am labelled stupid and naive but I recovered and kept on going. It has not stopped me getting crapped on again but once again you try to learn the lesson and move on.

Unter, so sorry for your misfortunes man. I know where you are coming from. Angus Magee lost some cash in something similar and so have I a number of times. It does happen.

Just live and learn and hopefully the police can do something about it.

I read that you are a local. You will see these girls again and you can deal to them when you see them. Watch out for their muscle (pimps/managers) though.

[Dave Lamd]

I'll be in Berlin in the beginning of June for a week. Staying on the Ku'damm. What action is nearby? Any recommendations of some place close by the metro? Thanks

[Bearsk]

Its a long street ... try the map then provide some coordinates for more help.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=100735334378007286437.0004626576cf59f6c8e21&ll=52.500967,13.384438&spn=0.161554,0.30899&z=12


I'll be in Berlin in the beginning of June for a week. Staying on the Ku'damm. What action is nearby? Any recommendations of some place close by the metro? Thanks

[Hektor T]

Hi,
From your name I assume you are from India. I have been there and done that, but this is impossible in Berlin. If you are not good at picking up girls, forget this. They are not interested in staying with you. You can get good sex, but you have to pay by the hour/ half hour. In that you have a wide range.

Three days might be impossible with bordello girls listed here, but if you use escort agencies it should not be a problem. I made a report a month or two ago about higher end agencies and Angus saved it in Reports of Distinction.

[Hektor T]

One of my friends has recently been to Berlin and he is a guy who already naturally is good in picking up girls (without paying for them), but what he told me about Berlin. That's crazy!

He told me about the Berlin club-scene that you in a lot of big clubs but according to him it's almost like one big orgy, especially in the gothic & alternative clubs, that is is allowed to have sex in clubs and that they have special areas in the clubs where people have sex. According to him girls in Berlin are really extremely open-minded and sexually open.

Okay, this might be true, BUT are they really so open-minded as he described me?

So, is it a fairy tale or is it partially true?

Maybe you can find some clubs like that, but they are fetish clubs, as Angus noted. Otherwise it's not so easy I think, unless you have low quality standards. There are a couple of clubs / bars where you can get the working girls after they finish work and want to go drinking on weekends. The main one is First Club (maybe difficult entry if you dont dress smart and look like the girls will be interested in you or like you will spend 100s of €). Harry's New York Bar is known for this too and is really one of the only places in Berlin where you will feel uncomfortable without at least a sport coat. Also Newton Bar and Universum Lounge are probably worth a look for higher end freebies or part-time pros, but it's really hit and miss.

[Kid Logy]

Hello, guys,

Being back in Berlin in early May for one week, almost a year after my last visit, I went to try the experiment of brothels. Your detailed posts have helped me choose my destinations (especially Angus posts), and I had in mind to go to Monrouge, Royal and KD. I was very pleased with this turn of events.

Firstly, Monrouge and Royal are quite similar, located in beautiful buildings, quiet neighbourhoods, their entrance is discrete, which is a positive element, being a bashful guy.

So, in my third night, way to MR, with a clear idea of my choice (I spotted three or four girls through their website, including Melissa and Adriana, and exchanged emails to their presence known)

Melissa (MR) from Romania: after ringing the bell and climbed on the first floor, I am greeted by a young hostess who takes me into a room and wonder if I have a girl that I want specifically. From my choices, only Melissa was there, and I thought to myself "lucky boy" when she entered the room, I realized she was even prettier in real life (she's really my type of girl, I like brunettes). I chose 45 minutes (100 euros + extra kisses) and I showered. After a brief discussion and then a massage, the session is started (BJ and sex), and it was a good time. She's really beautiful (it's my opinion), very sweet, she has a pretty face, a nice body, a cute smile, and I like her smell. The session ended, I left happy but also sad it's over (I would have stayed longer).

Jette (Royal): next evening, same situation (ringing, going upstairs), the hostess asks me who I want to see (I don't remember what the girls here, by the website, except Dareen but she's not there). Then, 3 girls come into the room (a big room decorated), one by one, and I chose Jette, pulpy with brown hair, because she seemed very smiling and pleasant, for 45 minutes (100 euros + extra kisses) including the shower. And it was a great GFE, because she's enthusiastic. And, despite the language barrier (she speaks mostly German), we exchanged a few words. So, Jette is lovable and great kindness, she's a funny girl.

Melissa (MR), one more time: while my objective was to go to KD, I haven't resisted too see Melissa again (I admit I thought about her a lot). So, destination MR, and luckily she's there, I didn't regretted. I chose the same length of session. After offering her a drink, we have much discussed. I was happy to have talked with her, even if the sex session was shorter. I like her very much (I think I like everything about her). So, I was sadder to leave.

Therefore, I'm a bit disturbed, because I have feelings for her.

One of you has he been in that case?

Have you had experiments in which you were like if you fall in love?

Finally, I long to come back in Berlin (I don't know when)

The Kid

[Angus Magee]

Therefore, I'm a bit disturbed, because I have feelings for her.

One of you has he been in that case?

Have you had experiments in which you were like if you fall in love?

Hi KL

Well...I could write a book about this. Actually, I am writing a book. Not specifically about falling for sps but the topic will certainly be included.

Briefly-as I see it this is part of the landscape. When you visit these girls a lot you are bound to come across one or two who stimulate the "love" chemicals in the brain. But one has to remember that for them it is a job. They might like you, even develop a certain affection for you if you are a repeat customer. But it is still a job for them. My best advise is to allow yourself the feelings but have no illusions about them being fully returned. And try not to lose your head over a working girl. These girls are working in an industry that basically sells illusion. Nothing wrong with illusion but if you try to grasp it in anyway it will disappear in a puff of smoke.

Nothing in this world is impossible. But making the leap from customer to bf (if that is what you want) comes under the heading of highly improbable. The way I have dealt with it mostly is to just visit the girl for as long as it seemed relevant and then stop. But in a couple of cases it was not nearly as neat as that.

If nothing else, heart ache is good for the soul.

AM

[Kid Logy]

Hi KL

Well...I could write a book about this. Actually, I am writing a book. Not specifically about falling for sps but the topic will certainly be included.

Briefly-as I see it this is part of the landscape. When you visit these girls a lot you are bound to come across one or two who stimulate the "love" chemicals in the brain. But one has to remember that for them it is a job. They might like you, even develop a certain affection for you if you are a repeat customer. But it is still a job for them. My best advise is to allow yourself the feelings but have no illusions about them being fully returned. And try not to lose your head over a working girl. These girls are working in an industry that basically sells illusion. Nothing wrong with illusion but if you try to grasp it in anyway it will disappear in a puff of smoke.

Nothing in this world is impossible. But making the leap from customer to bf (if that is what you want) comes under the heading of highly improbable. The way I have dealt with it mostly is to just visit the girl for as long as it seemed relevant and then stop. But in a couple of cases it was not nearly as neat as that.

If nothing else, heart ache is good for the soul.

AMHello Angus,

It’s funny, I often write (stories, novels, and even scenarios movies), but it’s a hobby which gives me insomnia, despite my daily job.

Sometimes, may be, I’m a romantic guy, but I can’t control my feelings, and there is the problem. What makes me sad is that I don’t live Berlin, and I can’t be a regular customer. Even if I’m able to make a long journey from France to see Melissa again, regardless of the costs. I don’t when I’ll come back in Berlin, may be in few months. If I have opportunity, why not give her a gift (flowers, chocolate, I don’t know), just for gratification to do it, and for showing I like her very much. I make no illusions to become her boyfriend, it’s an unrealizable dream.

Cheers, and thanks for your insight.

[Angus Magee]

If I have opportunity, why not give her a gift (flowers, chocolate, I don’t know), just for gratification to do it, and for showing I like her very much.


If I like a girl and have a good connection I will often bring her little gifts of chocolate or something. Funny thing is (and this has happened to me) it can back fire. One girl I had a big old crush on started doing things like giving me her private number and giving indications that she was interested in an outside meeting. After a few wrong turns though, and much heart ache for old Angus, it came out that she was just doing this as she felt she had to as I was being so nice to her. And obligated (her perception) contact is much worse than no contact at all IME.

All water under the bridge now and fodder for further tales. One thing to remember is that romance has the same root as your French word for "novel"="roman". Thus there is always a great deal of fiction in the story we tell ourselves about love. I always try not to take these things all that seriously as serious is the death knell of romance. Maybe that is why I like p4p so much?

[Charlie 123]

Therefore, I'm a bit disturbed, because I have feelings for her.

One of you has he been in that case?

Have you had experiments in which you were like if you fall in love?

Finally, I long to come back in Berlin (I don't know when)

The KidI have had recently a disturbing experience in this field, but with the reverse orientation.

There is a girl with whom I developed a rapport over a period, and the result was a series of sensational sex sessions over a period of months. I like her a lot, but I am a arch cynic in these matters and I could never conceive of myself falling for a girl who is, essentially, fucking me in return for money. 'Illusion' is absolutely the name of the game, and I am firmly resolved not to confuse it with reality.

We exchanged mobile numbers, mainly so that I could establish when she would be in town and to coincide at Artemis. As time went on, it became apparent that she had something of a thing for me. She repeatedly would tell me that she loved me and wanted to be with me. I had a myriad of offers to come and stay with her and meet her across Germany, without payment of course. Naturally, my first reaction was that I was being 'played', and that her professions of love were intended to cement her position as my preferred SP. I refused to delude myself that a 'working girl' could genuinely fall for a punter, especially a nondescript forty-something geezer of indeterminate looks such as myself.

Eventually, I became obliged to accept that this girl had genuinely fallen for me, however unlikely the case. I can't prove it in an empirical way, but I know that it's genuine. I have never given her any encouragement to suppose that my feelings for her extend beyond a preference for her as a sex partner, but the persistence in her affection led me to conclude that she had really fallen for me (god knows why!)

This engendered a problem for me that I haven't been able to properly resolve as yet. I feel bad for her. I am attached and unavailable, and in any event I would never form a relationship with a SP. Now I have to deal with her at Artemis in a delicate way. I still session with her when I see her there, but I spend most of my time trying to avoid her. Not because I don't still enjoy sex with her, but because I like her too much to take advantage of her infatuation with me.

Some of these girls are in relationships; some are even married. The majority of them however are alone, and somewhat vulnerable. Fucking 50 guys a week can play havoc with their emotional well-being. Just as many guys make the mistake of becoming emotionally attached to a pro, so do the girls very occasionally also become confused. Clearly this girl had failed to appreciate that the sexual chemistry between us was just that. Sexual attraction. Sure I liked her as well, but love?!!

I suspect that my prognosis will attract derisory responses that I'm kidding myself and that she's just been trying it on with me to see how fat my wallet is, but I assure you that I am not the type to delude myself in these matters.

The moral of the story to my mind is to ensure that one never gets too close to these girls, for their sake as well as one's own. Much better to maintain a respectful emotional distance, otherwise things get messy and somebody gets hurt.

Be careful out there, and enjoy the P4P scene for what it is, but if you want to fall in love then look elsewhere.

Charlie

[Jedi 1977]

Here is a report on three days in Berlin as thanks for the help this forum has given me.

Caligula

Caligula has received some criticism and doubts have been expressed about the place. I agree with those who question just what kind of service you can receive when taking advantage of the "30 euro for 30 minutes" offer. That was my question too, so I decided to take one for the team and go.

I was there twice in two days. Both were afternoon visits. For 30 euroes you get a red token with '30' written on it, and once you're in you simply go up to any girl on stage and hand her the token. She then takes you to a room, and the fun begins for 30 minutes.

Like I said I was there twice. Once on Friday for a normal 30 minute fun-ride with a Polish girl from Gdansk, 22 years old, slim, brown eyed, firm in all the right places and very good at what she does. Service was impeccable. She gave a great BJ (only with condom-she offered no extras, though extras are advertised in the room with prices and everything). And she gave a great performance of looking into my eyes, moaning at the right time, and cleaning me up afterwards. After sex we just lay naked on the bed at chatted until the half hour was gone. She was even fishing for me to ask her out the next day, as she was off work in the weekends, and had nothing to do. Had Saturday not been my last day, I would have definitely gone for it. She really was very sweet looking.

Second time was Saturday. I decided to go for a double header. Got two '30' tokens and chose two girls for a delightful half hour with more girl parts than I knew what to do with. I paid each a 10 euro extra for the BJ to be BBBJ. So get this, it's a total of 80 euroes for 30 minuttes with two girls who will do what you ask, and both give a BBBJ. That price cannot be beat! Got 10 minutes of BBBJ from the first (Rumanian, blond, about 30, small, very attractive body, so-so face, wears white lingeri) while I kissed the other on her breasts and ass, and then asked them to switch. Then after five minutes I got a condom on, then fucked the Rumanian blond for 6 or 7 minutes. And while I am doing this, she rolls over as much as she can, and starts kissing the other girl and licking her breasts. It took all I had to not come right then and there, but I still needed to fuck the second girl. So I switched condoms, and went for the second one. No hurry, the Rumanian still kissed and licked the girl I was with and she rolled around to a position so I could fuck one girl, and lick her pussy at the same time. Eventually I asked the Rumanian to get behind me, so that way I could fuck the girl on the bed, but have my hands behind my back feeling the other girls ass. All the while I was doing this the Rumanian girl was just laughing and smiling, having almost as good a time as me.

So all in all, Caligula for me gets a thumbs up. I haven't tried the entry fee and stay all day thing there, so can't say anything about the pressure for girls drinks. But the three girls I met were eager to please and certainly not upselling in any way.

King George

I went to King George my first night in Berlin. Sounded good on the forum, and I was not disappointed. There were, when I arrived on Thursday at about 20:00, nine girls and three men there. The girls were 1 undoable, 3 ok's, and 5 absolutely's. Not bad quality at all.

I paid 99 euro's and had sex with three girls in 4 hours. Each girl's service was great, though Polish Petronella and Austrian Klaudia deserve an extra mention. They were fantastic. Petronella, tall Polish girl with a killer body and sweet smile, has only been there 2 weeks, and was all over me. Total GF experience, apart from the lack of kissing.

Klaudia (well known on the forum) is a fun girl who likes to play, and if she likes you she will give you small kisses while flirting and fucking after you get to the room.

The last was a girl from the Dominican. She did try to upsell a girl drink, 25 euro, and then 10 euro to go DATY, but even though I rejected all she still gave me good service.

I would have had sex with the last to really attractive ones, but by 1 o'clock the place was getting crowded. I counted 25 men at one point, and still 9 girls. That isn't all bad, but it does get busy, and frankly I don't have the conscience to go ask a girl to go to a room when she just got out of one. So I decided to leave. Many men seem to go there for just one or two girls in 3 hours, however. So a lot of men isn't necessarily bad, but I would recommend showing up on a weekday at 18 o'clock. You will have a great time!

All BJ is covered, and the other girls have no problem with DATY at all. There are no extras and no BBBJ.

Overall an excellent place to spend an entire evening. Drinks include beer, soda, and alcohol like Jim Beam and mixers, and the girls are fun. Only bad thing: The music. It's half Rumanian half whatever and annoying as heel. The funny thing is, the girls want to start a party. Its like there is nothing that would please them more than for the men to join in the fun and dance around, but the music is impossible to get into for most people. I am 36 and love music, but I just could not dance to the kind of music they play.

L'amour

Tried to go early, but alas it was too early. They open at 13. So I didn't get to go. There is a small more seedy place right next door which is open at at least 11 in the morning. It was open when I was there, but I didn't go in as I had been hoping to get a beautiful girl (Susanne) at L'amour, and couldn't really imagine a girl of that class being in the place next door.

KFS40

I went passed there to check the prices and quality. At 3 in the afternoon there were only two girls there, and one looked like a Russian bowling champion. The other was a small, slim, dark (egyptian?) girl. She looked okay, but not my type. I was greeted with smile but when I said no thanks, the smile disappeared quickly. The black woman who had let me in was obviously pissed. It was 35 euroes for 20 minutes, but I excused myself and went to Caligula.

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[Hektor T]

I finally got a chance to try the Villa Rascona again. It's just off of Kufurstendam, not far from Adenauer platz. It's a whole private house and very elegant. You'll need to be well dressed because when they open the door they can decide whether or not you can go in. Once inside there are two bars downstairs and a sort of lounge area next to one of the bars with big sofas where you can sit and talk.

Both times i've been only one was open. Entry is 30€ which includes one drink. Next drinks are 20€. When you walk in some girls will immediately come to talk to you. For going in the room it's pretty expensive: 30min - 180€, 45min 255€, 60min 335€ The 45min and 60min prices include a half or whole bottle of champagne (whole bottle for 60min). The girl I was with told me a bottle is 250€ so the room + bottle is a good deal. I said so the bottle is 250€ and the girl 5€, she said nooooo... the girl is 250€ and the bottle is 5€. :-) However, I think the clock starts from the moment you get the bottle, but maybe that can be negotiated.

I was there very late on a Wednesday night and there were 2 German girls about 25yo and 30yo, One tall hot Hungarian, about 23yo, a Polish, about 35 and a Czech about 45. One guy had the younger German and the Hungarian with him when I walked in so I talked to the 30yo German who had a 7/10 face an a nice body. She was trying to get me to buy her a drink, but I resisted and finally i went for the 30min since she was non-stop touching and talking. So, went upstairs to the big room and had a very nice time. Upstairs she did kissing and cbj, but every position and lots of enthusiasm. She was probably one of the top 2 i've met in Berlin. 7.5/10 looks, 9.5/10 performance

When I went out I just went back into the lounge and sat down to finish my drink (needed to rest after the non stop upstairs) and the two younger girls came around and sat on both sides of me asking if I wanted two more girls. They were quite upset with the guy who had kept them for an hour or so drinking or talking downstairs but never chose one to go up. I was not so happy either because I wanted to try that Hungarian. Maybe next time!

So you guys who are thinking that you could get 3 cheaper girls for that price. Well you are right you can. But in my experience, most of those cheaper girls will be at least 2 times less satisfying, if only because they are all worn out, especially in places like Liberty or Artemis where they meet 10 guys per day. Other guys who prefer something a bit more exclusive and upscale will probably really like the Villa Rascona.

[Severin Carl]

Therefore, I'm a bit disturbed, because I have feelings for her.

One of you has he been in that case?

Have you had experiments in which you were like if you fall in love?

Finally, I long to come back in Berlin (I don't know when)

The Kid[/QUOTE]


Some years ago, 2006, I went to a club in Berlin and almost immediatly after I came in I saw a very young girl - in fact she was just 18 - who tried desperatly to get rid of a fat Frankenstein, standing behind her seat and touching her without any permission. Of course I reacted like John Wayne : I took the seat beside her and faked a long time appointment. Successfully - Frankenstein disappeared. "Cora" and I had some drinks and a very nice and funny "session" ( extended version, directors cut), and this was the beginning of a long friendship.
Cora gave me her mobile-number, so when I had to go to Berlin I could ask her for a meeting. And soon I realized that I had more than the usual feelings - I surely was a little bit in love with her. At least. Being younger than unfortunately I am I would have asked to her to live with me in Denmark. Almost certainly she would have refused. But after a while she didnt want to take my money any more. So I looked for presents : a ring, a bracelet, some nice lingerie or dresses...
She used to pick me up in my hotel. We had dinner together, several times we went to the "Staatsoper", listening to Barenboim and his crew, we did a lot of talking about arts, philosophy, politics and history. And of course we had sex in the night. Cora was a beauty - intelligent, cultivated, tender. Today she is a student at "Freie Universität". She stopped escorting when she found her husband ( who ignores completely her activities before), but we still meet sometimes for a cup of coffee.
After all : I think the girls we meet in this kind of business are quiete normal. They do what they do for economic reasons. And as for moral : I certainly prefer to blame some bankers...

[Spain]

Hello Kid

You have the web from this site (Melissa, Jette).

I travel next month to Berlin, but its my first time.

thank you!

[Connaisseur]

Dear fellow mongers:

Had some time to spare in Berlin, and initially wanted to try a different venue when I was told no-one was available there (Casanova); so I assessed my options, and decided to mosey on over to Harmonie (harmoniemassagen dot de). What a lucky draw! I opted for an hour with Mandy, a true Berliner in her early 20ies. We went off to a remote room in the building, reminiscent of an African Safari lodge. After I was shown a laminated menu (!) outlining all my options and rates, Mandy filled the jacuzzi, and we enjoyed our mutual company in the warm bubbles before relocating to the four-poster bed for some more B2B massage, rubbing and tugging, and a very pleasant time together.

We finished with a great footjob, but I am keen to try other side orders that were promised on the menu Harmonie would provide.

In conclusion, a very relaxing, professional and yet sensual experience. The location on Rigaer Strasse is a bit dodgy at night, but the proximity to the U-Bahn (Frankfurter Tor) makes arrival and departure by public transport easy and safe.

Danger of repeating: 110%.

Happy hunting!

Conn.

[Kid Logy]

Hi guys,

Thanks for your replies. Your stories are interesting, giving a good overview of difficult situations when the feelings are there.

I have failings of my youth, like not control my emotions and my feelings.

When I come back in a few months in Berlin, I’ll quickly go to Monrouge to see Melissa again. I miss her already. But don’t worry; I’ll try to keep a cool head. Then, no one ever knows, life give us surprising fates.

The Kid

[Kid Logy]

Hello Kid

You have the web from this site (Melissa, Jette).

I travel next month to Berlin, but its my first time.

thank you!Hello Spain,

As regards Monrouge (Melissa) and Royal (Jette), here’s their website.

http://www.monrouge.de/

http://www.royalgirl.de/

But there is no indication about girls’ presence. However, you can phone (both have phone number on the website). I have exchanged emails with Monrouge to determine the presence of the girls I wanted to meet. Otherwise after the session, if the girl you really like, you can ask her what are her hours of attendance for the next few days (In my case, I asked Melissa, to see her again).

The Kid

[Merkur]

Visited Berlin in February and thought I'd share some experiences here.

EKSTASE MASAGE

Decided to start my first day with a erotic massage and landed on Ekstase Massage which is located in Friedrichschain and easily reaced by the U5. (Samariterstrasse) Booked an apointment with Elena:

http://www.ekstasemassage.de/html/elena.html

Went for the 30 minutes erotic massage for 60€. I was also offered a greek massage but politely declined. Short massage booked as said so it was not very long before it was time to turn around and I could see her naked body. She does have a fine pair of tits. She oiled her hands and my cock. Oil warm and tingling when first apllied but then it wears off a bit. (the warm feeling) I ran my hands over her body over the areas the angle permitted me... ass when she moved sideways and tits when she was up front. There was not much sound and no "sexy smiling looks" from her though. (She had that more "serious" or professional look) At one point I had her ass and pussy straight in my face in the 69 position. But no oral allowed (made clear on the site) and I did not press my luck but instead used a finger on her pussy, and felt she was getting wet. She took my cock between her tits, some bit of spanish, then had to take a short break as not to come too quickly. Some more hand and titswork and I came, really not in the best angle. Had my cock pointing up and backwards so it really didnt soak her tits like I wanted to. She dried me up and told me to lay there as she went out and came back after a short while continuing the massage. Asked if i wanted more massage to my cock, which was a nice gesture of her I find. As it wasnt long since the last pop it didnt result in anything though and I was still drained so no matter. All in all nice body and some good positions (like having her pussy in my face) but she was very quiet and when I looked at her during the massage she had a bit of a distant look if you ask me, no smiles or sparkles/ livelyness. But this is just my interpretation. Others may experience it differently of course. She never rushed things though. Another shower, kiss on the cheek and aufwiedersehen.

TIFFANY

http://www.ritter11.de/

Went off to Tiffany (located in Kreuzberg) with Pia and Chantalle in mind.
Arrived and was buzzed in. Walked all the floors up to 4th floor (actually there is a elevator too but guess I was a bit absent minded ;) There was quite a few in the parade. Maybe 6. Not bad. But I was focusing on just waiting until Pia arrived or until Chantalle presented herself. Nope, they were not there. The parade had ended but since I was focused on only those two I could not remember the names of any of the girls who presented themself! Yikes. Some I didnt catch either, as they said it too fast and they were coming straight after another. Pia it turned out was there but booked out whole day. Schade. Chantalle was free in 1 hour so made a booking before strolling around in the cold until it was time to return.

A sun-tanned and cheerful Chantalle received me.

http://www.ritter11.de/bordell-girls/chantalle.php

She is of the very chatty kind, chats constantly, smiling. Its quite a huge establishment and bit of walking to our room. Brought my applejuice and she told me she would be right back. I had to ask myself for a shower though. This is something which I find a bit strange about Tiffany. I've met 3 girls there and neither have asked me if I wanted shower first, so obviously its not routine to be offered a shower.

Started out with her lightly clothed (which I prefer as opposed to her coming into the room already naked or just strip out quickly) with bit of snuggling and feeling eachother up. Lots of sound, too much for my liking (since it feels like an act) Rubbed her tits and licked her nipple. Felt her pussy, and rubbing her clit it was wet. Slided a finger in easily and she made the constant mmm ahh sounds and some verbal encouragement. She got on her kneees with me sitting on the bed with bit of a bbbj. Was OK but I found her blowjob skills not being of the best. Time for fucking and started with missionary. I wanted to finish with facial as this was mentioned in her profile she provides it. But when I asked her as we settled the cash in the beginning she said she didnt do it, but that I could cum on her tits. As an important reason for picking her was that I wanted to finish splashing her face this was naturally a disappointment. All in all a friendly experience but a bit too chatty and fake sounds to my liking. I would preferred it more “low key”, but that’s just me.

[Jes007]

Hello Guys,

I'm planning a short trip to Berlin. Anyone has any info regarding geile modelle. I will contribute when i'm back.

http://www.geile-modelle.de/girls.htm

[Angus Magee]

Hello Guys,

I'm planning a short trip to Berlin. Anyone has any info regarding geile modelle. I will contribute when i'm back.

http://www.geile-modelle.de/girls.htm

Hi Jes,

I have no personal experience but the German forums always seem to give the agency pretty positive press. I seem to remember some exceptions (no specifics sorry) but a few of the girls are reviewed favorably and the agency itself seems to care about repeat business.

A word of caution though-a number of the girls on this site are said to offer bareback service at a premium.

AM

[Jes007]

Hi Jes,

I have no personal experience but the German forums always seem to give the agency pretty positive press. I seem to remember some exceptions (no specifics sorry) but a few of the girls are reviewed favorably and the agency itself seems to care about repeat business.

A word of caution though-a number of the girls on this site are said to offer bareback service at a premium.

AM

Thanks Magee, Unfortunately I missed the flight. However I checked with the agency and at least 4 of the girls will do bareback for additional fee. I checked with two other agencies and it seems like this is a common phenomena.

[Rocketboy0]

I checked with the agency and at least 4 of the girls will do bareback for additional fee. I checked with two other agencies and it seems like this is a common phenomena.

It is absolutely not common practice. It does go on. While some might argue, well this is a matter of personal choice on both sides, it is simply not.
It increases risks significantly for all of us (not only AIDS but a range of STDs) and it is the last thing any of us, or providers need. The practice should be avoided like the plague it is, and the agencies that tolerate it should also be avoided IM not so HO. I wish it were otherwise, and I hate condoms as much as anyone. I have a good friend who is a Doctor working in the university AIDS clinic in Frankfurt and the stories are not pretty. Some things you mess with, some you just don´t. This is really a protect the community thing.

[Angus Magee]

It is absolutely not common practice. It does go on. While some might argue, well this is a matter of personal choice on both sides, it is simply not.
It increases risks significantly for all of us (not only AIDS but a range of STDs) and it is the last thing any of us, or providers need. The practice should be avoided like the plague it is, and the agencies that tolerate it should also be avoided IM not so HO. I wish it were otherwise, and I hate condoms as much as anyone. I have a good friend who is a Doctor working in the university AIDS clinic in Frankfurt and the stories are not pretty. Some things you mess with, some you just don´t. This is really a protect the community thing.

Hi RB,

First of all let me say that bbfs (bareback full service) is not something I personally look for. But as I am interested in all aspects of this hobby I do keep tabs on what goes on in the community. And I think BBFS is a lot more common than you think. The German forum I frequent even has a thread specifically dedicated to "Alles Ohne". I guess it depends upon your definition of commonly available. For my purposes it means that it would be easy to find were I to want it. And it is-from agencies, a number of bordellos and even the street girls of Bülowstr. As crazy as it may seem to many there are those that seek it out with enthusiasm. It is even available, I am told by a girl who works in the industry, at some(not all and not the ones that are commonly discussed here) higher establishments. In fact it can be even more available there and even insisted upon by the establishment as a condition of working there. This is what my source tells me.

My own view on BBFS is that it probably shouldn't go on. But it does and this is a fact. So what to do? First of all I guess you can avoid the agencies and bordellos where it is relatively openly practiced. But then you need to figure out which one these are and unless you have access to the German forum (not so easy to join) there is little info out there. The bordellos and agencies do not really openly advertise the services (as AO) , rather they use code words like "Full Service Model" and "alles möglich". But one is never really sure. This I get from reading the German AO thread. Many models are said to provide it but then someone will post that they were refused. I guess it is always very much a YMMV thing and the girls do not provide it to all customers.

It seems to me that the most important factor when hobbying is to protect yourself. This is not just as a selfish act (I'm okay so who cares about anyone else) but as a sign of respect to the girls and the community. I guess my point is that if you make sure to wear a condom yourself then you protect yourself, the girl and anyone else who might use the girls services, as well as, anyone ese you might come into sexual contact with i.e. partners.

And while I am at it I could just mention that while so many of us prize the experience of bbbj, I do wonder how many of us are fully open with our other partners about this activity? Of course we tell ourselves that bbbj is perfectly safe, but then if we are not honestly fully disclosing with our other partners, then are we not making this somewhat tenuous decision for them? Without even their knowledge or consent. And in fact there certainly are STDs one can easily catch from bbbj and unwittingly pass to a partner. And HPV, which really is not protected against with condom use at all, is linked to certain types cancer, a life threatening condition if ever there was one, in both men and women. I say this not to admonish anyone, merely to bring it a little into the open and say what is often left unsaid.

My experience with Canadian forums is that those who seek or provide bbfs are vilified and even harassed beyond imagining. This is the mob mentality at work as I see it. If we make these guys & girls the bad ones, then all of "us" are the good ones-defenders of morality and safety. In fact this harassment and vilification just serves to drive the practice underground and further into the shadows where it can actually do more harm than if it was openly discussed.

I know HIV & AIDS are conditions that have had a deep effect on the planet this past thirty or so years-many have died. I myself have had a number of friend & colleagues who fell to AIDS.The sex industry is a place where, as a participent, one needs to be extra careful just because of the numbers. I am all for this care and extra protection. But in the end I do participate in the industry and I accept what risks are there. I am open with other partners (though to be honest there have not been that many these past few years so I have not really been tested here-and my openness has not always been so in the past) about what I do. For me this is all I can do and still sleep well at night.

Thanks fror listening

AM

[Rocketboy0]

Hi RB,

First of all let me say that bbfs (bareback full service) is not something I personally look for. But as I am interested in all aspects of this hobby I do keep tabs on what goes on in the community. And I think BBFS is a lot more common than you think. The German forum I frequent even has a thread specifically dedicated to "Alles Ohne".
AM

Angus me lad - agree, all points, as always. And you are surely right on the bbbj scene - a grey area that I know I personally just gloss over. But there is a difference between playing Russian Roulette with 1 bullet, and 5. I never frequent the agencies, precisely because I know it does go on. In the good bordellos, the rules are clear and this offers reasonable protection for all. (Let´s face it, otherwise given what we all know it going on, Berlin´s population, perhaps all of Europe itself, would be half of what it is!). But I still say given what we know, indeed after 30 years, it is nuts to go bareback, and it puts us all at risk. I say this not in a shrill way - just factual.

And there is another aspect; as you are a student of human sexuality above all else, you know there are people doing this as a kind of extra thrill (excluding other more sinister motives, which you can easily hear of if you have ever talked with our provider partners). In any case, it´s just not worth it, and I do believe it´s part of being responsible to all sides not to.
`Nuff said...

[Chrille Sweden]

Just tried Liberty and Denise. Looks stunning until you get close then you see the bad hair roots, moustach and 5 days old shave on psy. Bought an hour was finieshed after 20 min could stand the fake moaning and oo nice yes yes thingy.

Thinking of artemis tomorrow or monrougy to try the new Russian girl. Was there this morning but no one could speak enligsh so I bailed.

[Kasper 81]

I have been to Berlin once. Visited Freudenhaus Hase, very nice experience. Girls don't look to much at the clock, and are very kind without that fake "oh yeah yeah" tha personally turns me down. Had a session with a EE girl, body 8, service 8. CBJ and sex in few positions, no hurry.

Then visited Liberty (one year ago) twice. Once I chose a german girl with great body but very mechanical (came after 10 minutes, getting bored), and once a black girl, opting for a one hour session (beautiful experience, no hurries, body 8, service 9).

That is about my experience. I wanted to ask two questions

A) The flat rate brothels like Caligula: how many girls effectively are there t choose from? And how many clients? Can you REALLY have as much sex as you want for the rate, or you need to pay extra drinks, etc?

B) Nasty point: does anybody know about hiv prevalence in berlin prostitutes, or has some advice on "safer" or "more dangerous" places?

Happy hunting!

[Angus Magee]

That is about my experience. I wanted to ask two questions

A) The flat rate brothels like Caligula: how many girls effectively are there t choose from? And how many clients? Can you REALLY have as much sex as you want for the rate, or you need to pay extra drinks, etc?

B) Nasty point: does anybody know about hiv prevalence in berlin prostitutes, or has some advice on "safer" or "more dangerous" places?



Hi Kasper,

I can not say how many girls work the floor on any given night at Caligula. But the deal is that you can have sex as many times as you want upon paying the entry fee. Of course if this actually is honored is anyone's guess. But I can not see them really kicking you out for having too much unless you act like an asshole or something. I think at such a club you have to be polite and reasonable and they will take care of your needs.

As for your second question-have a look a few posts back for a short discussion on bare back sex in Berlin. For the purposes of visiting pros one needs just to assume that there is a degree of risk. Wearing a condom cuts this risk significantly. End of story. And street girls are higher risk if you don't wear a condom simply because they are more likely to have other customers not wearing a condom. Also is is probably easier to find bare back in a small, sleazy Neuköln brothels than a well established Willmersdorf brothel. So there is a greater risk-if you go bare back. If you wera a condom your good to go.

AM

[Dave Lamd]

I was in Berlin this past week and got to sample. My hotel was on Ku'damm so walking distance was my radius.

SW

I found this report in my research. Forgive me for not using the quote function, but I can't seem to find it now, so I'm pasting from what I had saved for reference (BTW, thanks to all for posting. This is one of the most active folders I've found here, and it a wealth of info). It's pretty accurate.

"ISF SW: Further down the road on Einemstraße (Nearest U-Bahn Nollendorfplatz) is where the real talent is for girls in this area. They will line up along Einemstraße up until Lützowplatz and just on the corner of Einemstraße and Kurfüstenstraße (This is the Western end – don’t get confused – you should see an Einstein Café on this end of the street). Prices here range from 50 - 150 Euros for blowjob and full sex. The girls are dressed up with bustiers, garter belts, knee-high boots and not much else. It is quite a sight and many of them are really honestly beautiful. The girls found in the other areas I have mentioned above just dress in normal clothes, some regular and some pretty stunning. Most of the girls on Einemstraße will want to go the Pension Stockholm and the Alsterhof on Eisenacherstraße as explained above where the price is 12 Euros. Some may want to go somewhere just off the Kurfürstendamm which is clean, small and romantic with music and always a drink included. I don’t remember the exact location.

The streets and areas mentioned above are very dangerous and it is common knowledge that even the Police do not like going working around there. This is not due to the Prostitutes but due to the problem of drugs and the high population of Turkish people living here. Just be sensible and if you are walking around just take the cash that you need and keep your hands in your pockets. Look for a girl and do the business, don’t get into any trouble. I don’t mean to scare you, just making you aware as this area has a reputation so caution should be taken at all times."

Comments. Whoever wrote this was right. It's worth it to take a look at the girls on Einemstraße just to see them. I've seen a few *****s in my day, but this is over the top. I didn't try any of them, but did talk. Price right now is 70. It's hit or miss, sometimes they are there, sometimes not. I don't know if it has anything to do with cops coming by.

Twice I partook in the SW on between Bulow str between Einemstraße and Potsdamerstr. Price and quality goes down the further away you get from Einemstraße. Both girls were Hungarian. First one, Kira, was a definite non-repeat. 50 for CBJ (not to completion), DATY and fuck. Her BJ was so worthless, I couldn't even get it up enough to fuck. Second, was a tall brown haired girl, I saw her after my session with Kira, and she was the reason I went back. Anka looked like she has a great body in her SW clothes, but when she took them off, it was obvious she had had kids--stretch marks everywhere, and her small breasts were saggy. I was encouraged when we started DFK, BBJ was good. DATY (I kinda got the impression she'd go uncovered--DON'T. There was some funkiness about that pussy). Shagged her in every position, but it wasn't inspired. 60 euro spent (50 for service, 10 for room). If money is an issue, this wasn't bad.

Gangbang

Found this add in my research: http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Event/Gangbang-Berlin-13527.html

25 euro? Why the hell not?! This was my first GB experience. The woman, Silke was in her 40's fake tits, nice body. About 20 guys. It was filmed, no release forms or anything, but you know you're gonna end up on the net, so bring a mask. She performed magnificently. Deep throat, face fucking. Only vaginal covered, no anal. You gotta wait in line, although alot of those 20 guys were just sitting around watching. Finally got my turn, fucked her a little, and then 3 of us came on her face right in a row. It was classic. I would definitely do this again.

Monrouge.

The highlight of my time. Maya. http://www.monrouge.de/maya_neu.html She wasn't my first choice (Celine was, but she doesn't do CIM). But boy I'm glad I chose her. No entrance fee. 70 euro for 30 min. BBBJ & CIM available (and extra depending on the girl). They take you to a room, and then the girls come in 1 at a time, and after you pick. 9 girls available at 23:00 on a Friday. Bulgarian Maya was great. DFK, deep throat, face fucking, fantastic body (fake tits). DATY which she enjoyed since her pussy got wet (I can tell the difference between pussy juice and my own saliva). Enthusiastic. Definite repeat. I should have gone back there in stead of the SW Anka. Oh well.

Again, I want to thank all of you who contribute to this forum. You make it very informative, made my trip to Berlin much more enjoyable. This is what it's all about right here. Good luck and good hunting.

[Sebastiane]

Hi all,

I saw this escort agency on another thread and on visiting the site was blown away by some of the girls. Especially this one:

http://www.greta-brentano.com/#kristina_nilsson.php

I wonder if any of our friends in Berlin (Angus perhaps?) have hired this girl and can report back or, if not her, any other girl from this agency? It seems like a real top notch escort agency and, though rather expensive on first appearance, if you work it out *per hour* it is not much more than an hour with a girl in an FKK per hour (including one extra such as CIM for example).

OK, a 1000 euros is a hell of a lot of money to drop in one day (6 hours in fact) but six hours of sex play is a lot.

I'd love to get some feedback because i've decided that, all things going well, I'm going to book this girl on my next visit to Berlin but don't want to blow that sort of money on a scam or subpar service.

[Charlie 123]

Hi all,

I saw this escort agency on another thread and on visiting the site was blown away by some of the girls. Especially this one:

http://www.greta-brentano.com/#kristina_nilsson.phpI have also in recent weeks been intrigued by this agency's website. They appear to be pitching themselves in at the top end of the spectrum, and their girls all look appealing, especially for those punters who prefer ladies, as the French say, 'd'un certain age'.

If it were me, I'd be more inclined to attempt to try them out with a 1 or 2 hour appointment before committing to spending 1000E, just in case they turn out to be crap. But they don't seem to offer anything less than an 'overnighter', so they seem to be minded to eschew such business.

If you do decide to do untertake a trial experiment on behalf of us all, please be kind enough to post a full report on your experiences as I for one would be terribly curious to know more

Thx

Charlie

[Angus Magee]

I was in Berlin this past week and got to sample. My hotel was on Ku'damm so walking distance was my radius......

.....Again, I want to thank all of you who contribute to this forum. You make it very informative, made my trip to Berlin much more enjoyable. This is what it's all about right here. Good luck and good hunting.

Thanks for the report Dave. Some interesting stuff here, particularly the Gang Bang which sounds a real Berlin Bang.

Interestingly enough I just discovered on the German forums that Mon Rouge and Berlin's most expensive bordello, Bel Ami has a new-ish location in the center of Berlin, on the ground floor of MR's Liebnizstrasse location. I have not yet been able to determine if the two are also connected by management but it does seem likely. I will keep you all posted here if I find anything out about this connection.

Here is the Liebnizstr. location website.

http://www.belami-berlin.de/

It is really one of the most useless websites ever giving only the address & contact details. But then that does seem to go along with Bel Ami's general reputation of not really giving a shit about customers unless they are ready to drop the big bucks.

AM

[Sebastiane]

If I do end up trying this agency out i will def give you fellow ISGers a full detailed write up. The shortest they offer is I think 4 hours for 700 euros.

The two girls I fancy the most are both minimum 6 hour bookings!

Watch this space!


I have also in recent weeks been intrigued by this agency's website. They appear to be pitching themselves in at the top end of the spectrum, and their girls all look appealing, especially for those punters who prefer ladies, as the French say, 'd'un certain age'.

If it were me, I'd be more inclined to attempt to try them out with a 1 or 2 hour appointment before committing to spending 1000E, just in case they turn out to be crap. But they don't seem to offer anything less than an 'overnighter', so they seem to be minded to eschew such business.

If you do decide to do untertake a trial experiment on behalf of us all, please be kind enough to post a full report on your experiences as I for one would be terribly curious to know more

Thx

Charlie

[Iggypup]

Hi all,

Just signed up - I'm a massage aficonado. My future posts will probably reflect this.

So, yesterday, fancied a good, tantalising session and headed down to Mandala massagen, on Sonnenallee. I had been here before once and had the most fantastic time with a sweet, coltish young lady, all limbs, nervous giggles and reddish hair. This time round, she wasn't there, which was a shame, but I chose the plump, redhead Jana for an hour's tantra and, according to the manager, an ending of HR, CBJ or 'Spanish'.

Have to say this was one of the most sublime massages I have ever had - Jana had me on my front and slowly moved her plump little hands all over me, tickling and teasing here, sweeping and stroking there in tantalising, occasionally electrifying strokes. She was delicious too - plump, with splendid low-hanging pink-nippled boobs that she oiled up and smushed all over me and was happy to have squeezed, licked and sucked. However, any further ideas were quashed, as legs remained tightly clamped throughout.

The final HR was volcanic, following a long, long, lovely build-up, using fingertip tickling and teasing to firm bold strokes. However, only disappointment was the lack of oral (as offered when I arrived), with Jana merely shaking her head politely when I asked. Still, for a massage that will leave you truly, happily drained and limp, she's well worth a visit.

[Angus Magee]

Hi all,

Just signed up - I'm a massage aficonado. My future posts will probably reflect this.

So, yesterday, fancied a good, tantalising session and headed down to Mandala massagen, on Sonnenallee. I had been here before once and had the most fantastic time with a sweet, coltish young lady, all limbs, nervous giggles and reddish hair. This time round, she wasn't there, which was a shame, but I chose the plump, redhead Jana for an hour's tantra and, according to the manager, an ending of HR, CBJ or 'Spanish'.

Have to say this was one of the most sublime massages I have ever had - Jana had me on my front and slowly moved her plump little hands all over me, tickling and teasing here, sweeping and stroking there in tantalising, occasionally electrifying strokes. She was delicious too - plump, with splendid low-hanging pink-nippled boobs that she oiled up and smushed all over me and was happy to have squeezed, licked and sucked. However, any further ideas were quashed, as legs remained tightly clamped throughout.

The final HR was volcanic, following a long, long, lovely build-up, using fingertip tickling and teasing to firm bold strokes. However, only disappointment was the lack of oral (as offered when I arrived), with Jana merely shaking her head politely when I asked. Still, for a massage that will leave you truly, happily drained and limp, she's well worth a visit.


Thanks for the report Iggy. I was at Manadla on time some years back and remember a good, but not spectacular massage. But then I chose the girl by looks and not by reputed massage skill. My only complaint about this place is that I have shown up a couple of times within opening hours (again a couple years back) only to have no one answer the door. As it is a little out of my way I stopped even trying. But after your report Jana certainly sounds tempting. I also hear Ekstase is a good massage establishment as is Harmonie.

http://www.ekstasemassage.de/html/team.html
http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/

If you like a more authentic Tantra experience, albiet one where you will get no oral or titty suckling you can try Kashima

http://www.kashima.de/en/tantra-berlin.html

AM

[Charlie 123]

http://www.monrouge.de/maya_neu.html

I have reported here before a few times about girls from Monrouge, including Jasmin, Nicky, Bella, Katherine and others. I had always lusted after the photos I'd seen of Maya, but for one reason or another I had never had the pleasure of her acquaintance until this week. She travels a lot and is relatively rarely in Berlin, so I was delighted to discover that she would be in residence during my trip to Berlin this week.

All i can say is, 'JEEZUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!!!!'

Firstly, her body is just to die for. She is tall with huge soft tits, silky-smooth skin, a slim figure, pretty face (generic EE blond) and fabulous legs. 'Sex on legs' is I believe the expression. For someone (like me) who adores the busty MILF physique, she is the identikit stunner.

She is also a super lass; intelligent, funny with a very personable character. Best of all, she is an amazing performer in the sack.

Kissing, sucking, caressing and fucking - an hour of total pleasure that ranks amongst the greatest sexual experiences of my life.

She was so great I had to go back the next day for a repeat showing, which was every bit as good as the first (better actually, 'cos any doubts I'd had first time were totally absent and I was just able to enjoy the occasion)

I know that many of the guys on here have already had the pleasure with Maya before, and to those who had previously encouraged me to try her out, I offer my heartfelt gratitude. For those who haven't yet been with Maya, and especially those who like big-titted blondes, I can only repeat the advice I myself was given, and implore you to take advantage of one of the greatest sex experiences that the city has to offer.

I just wish that I could have taken her home with me - what a girl!

Cheers,

Charlie

[Charlie 123]

Another spectacular session with this little cracker.

I've expounded her virtues here several times before, so no need for details. Just a quick note to say that she has gone home for the summer as of today, but will apparently be back in September.

She had previously told me that she wouldn't be returning to Germany, so the suggestion that she will indeed be back is very good news indeed.

Charlie

[Angus Magee]

Superb boobs! How much does a girl like this cost? Thanks.

Basic rates at MR are 130 for the hour, 70 for the half. I am not sure exactly of the extras costs but I believe CIM is 30 Euros and bbbj (no CIM) is 20. I could be wrong on the extras.

They do have a daytime, weekday (arrive before 16:00)special of 100 for the hour but there is no guarantee that you will find the girl you want there in the day. The daytime staff tends to be light-that is not many girls work the day shift.

AM

[Charlie 123]

Superb boobs! How much does a girl like this cost? Thanks.70E for the standard half-hour, plus I paid 40+20+10 for various extras. Total price was 140E, which I rounded up to 150.

Quite expensive on an hourly basis, but for a girl like this, no price would be so high as to put me off.

Charlie

[Elve65]

They do have a daytime, weekday (arrive before 16:00)special of 100 for the hour but there is no guarantee that you will find the girl you want there in the day. The daytime staff tends to be light-that is not many girls work the day shift.

AMWell, I am not sure about the 100 euro special, I was thera om a monday around 14:00 and was not offered any special price. But I did not ask for it, maybe I should. But it didnt feel right to start argying(spelling?) about prices.

E65

[Angus Magee]

Well, I am not sure about the 100 euro special, I was thera om a monday around 14:00 and was not offered any special price. But I did not ask for it, maybe I should. But it didnt feel right to start argying(spelling?) about prices.

E65

I guess I should have qualified that with the fact that I have not visited MR for over a year now. So maybe they do not have this offer anymore. But then they never did advertise the offer anywhere. I just was told upon visiting one time that this was the price on weekdays before 16:00. Then whenever I made a booking for that time I would check the price with the phone girl and was always told this is the price. Maybe it is something they offer to regulars (for a while I was a regular 1 or 2 times per month guest) but do not volunteer to one time visitors?

AM

[Elve65]

Maybe it is something they offer to regulars (for a while I was a regular 1 or 2 times per month guest) but do not volunteer to one time visitors?

AMI hope you are right, and I think you are. i got that feeling that MR take care of theire regulare customers. For myself, living in Sweden effectivly stops me from being that. This was my second visit in 16 months.

E65

[Angus Magee]

I hope you are right, and I think you are. i got that feeling that MR take care of theire regulare customers. For myself, living in Sweden effectivly stops me from being that. This was my second visit in 16 months.

E65


Never the less, if you visit again I would just ask about the special. I sort of got the impression that the discount was available to anyone who knew to ask. They just do not volunteer it unless they see you coming back as a regular.

AM

[Angus Magee]

70E for the standard half-hour, plus I paid 40+20+10 for various extras. Total price was 140E, which I rounded up to 150.


As I now remember bbbj (no cim) was 30 so I think bbbjcim would go for 40.
I used to visit Adriana regularly and pay the afternoon rate of 100 plus 30 for bbbj. Kissing I got for free after the first couple of sessions ;) This is how I like it-kissing because she wants to, not because I gave her 10 extra euros.

[Iggypup]

Thanks for the report Iggy. I was at Manadla on time some years back and remember a good, but not spectacular massage. But then I chose the girl by looks and not by reputed massage skill. My only complaint about this place is that I have shown up a couple of times within opening hours (again a couple years back) only to have no one answer the door. As it is a little out of my way I stopped even trying. But after your report Jana certainly sounds tempting. I also hear Ekstase is a good massage establishment as is Harmonie.

http://www.ekstasemassage.de/html/team.html
http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/

If you like a more authentic Tantra experience, albiet one where you will get no oral or titty suckling you can try Kashima

http://www.kashima.de/en/tantra-berlin.html

AMThanks Angus. Yes, I have been to Harmonie a few times, although not for some while now. The first time, which must have been over a year ago was awesome. A tall, thin dark-haired girl (stars tattooed on her belly)with excellent English who played about with me in the jacuzzi, before repairing to the bed. There, as it rained outside, we abandoned the massage for lots of sleepy cuddling, petting and gentle kissing. A fantastic afternoon.

The next time wasn't that great, rather perfunctory. Brisk and rather emotionless in comparison to my previous visit. And as someone else mentioned on this thread once, they do have a rather annoying habit of charging slightly higher prices than on the website.

Interesting you didn't get a reply at Mandala. That's happened to me a few times too. I'll definitely check out Ekstase next time the mood strikes.

Has anyone been to the Freies Praxis in Courbierstrasse? I was there recently and had an amazing session with a blonde, middle-aged lady (who used to be a professional yachtswoman, of all things). Great body, massage, spot of dom action, 'gynstuhl' etc. Ending up with great HR, lots of eye contact and breathy encouragement. Well recommended.

[Murkly70]

Hello all,

I took a long break as I was trying to give it all up and go freebie only. After a long dry spell and a night of drinking, I finally caved and gave My Escorts a call. Angus has warned about calling for outcall late at night but I paid no heed as I was in the mood. After some browsing I decided on Sofia 2, as listed on their site.

She arrived about an hour after I called and although the photos on the site are very obviously photoshopped, she was quite good looking in person. I would say maybe face 7 and body 7.5. She has a very Eastern EU look, which I'm totally into. Anyway, I gave her 200 for the hour and an extra ten for some french kissing.

She spoke minimal German and no english but I managed with a little Google Translate and my miniscule German. I sent her her off to get cleaned up and she appeared naked a few minutes later. I asked her if I was her first client this evening and she said I was. Of course she could have been lying and I suspect it is quite possible.

We headed to the bedroom. As always, I started eating her, trying to get her come, and I think I must have been down there for like 20 or 30 minutes. No dice; she seemed to be into it, but there was just no getting her off. As I said, I suspect that maybe she was all cummed out for the night. At one point, I tried to get my fingers into the action, but she said something in Bulgarian and gently pushed my hand away. No problem, she didn't want that it seems, but be forewarned if you are into that.

We moved to 69, which I find helps me to get it up as normally I can be apprehensive when I'm with the working girls. I don't know if I had to ask for it, but she immediately slipped on the condom even though her page says that she'll do BBJ (no cim) for free. I didn't mind anyhow, so I just let her stick with her preference. With the condom on, I couldn't really gauge her skills that well, but it seemed to be good enough. Nothing spectacular, but not bad either. We moved into a few different positions, and while serviceable, her performance wasn't anything special either.

After finishing the first session, we talked and smoked for a bit. This is normally my favourite part and I can say for sure that this is where she is good. Although we couldn't communicate directly, with the help of google translate and our both minimal German, we managed to get to know each other a bit and it was fun.

After a bit, we started again, and I said I wanted to try to get her to come. I asked her what made her come and she said licking. So again I tried for another 20 minutes or so, but finally gave up. We moved through a few different positions. I will say though that her top game is really good as she can ride well; not like some girls that don't really understand what feels good when they are on top. With about 10 minutes to go we were in 69 and she quickly mentioned that I had about 10 minutes left. I finished up on top in missionary and she went to get cleaned up. I watched her wash up and get dressed and then we kissed each other on the cheek and she went on her way.

All in all, I would say that although her performance wasn't spectacular, I would repeat with her again just for the fact that she was quite good looking in my opinion, and she was friendly enough in the down time.

Cheers all.

[Angus Magee]

I gave her 200 for the hour and an extra ten for some french kissing.

Hi Murkly,

Thanks for the report. Sounds like you did have an acceptable, if not mind blowing visit.

But I am curious-you say you gave her 200 + 10 for the hour with kissing. On the MyEscorts web site is states the price as 90 Euros/hr. Was this a misprint by you? or an opportunistic rip off by dear Sophia?

http://www.myescortberlin.com/info/preise.html

Regards

AM

[Charlie 123]

Great body, massage, spot of dom action, 'gynstuhl' etc. Ending up with great HR, lots of eye contact and breathy encouragement. Well recommended.I always wondered what 'Gymstuhl' was - I've seen it advertised in many places - anybody care to enlighten me?

Thanks,

Charlie

[Monger Uk]

Hi All,

It has been a number of weeks since I visted Berlin and I had a few hours to spare before getting my flight back to the Uk so did a quick interent search on my iphone to see if I could find anywhere interesting to vist.

I found "Bordello Tiffany" and it just happend to be on the U-bahn line I was on nearest stop Moritzplatz, then a short walk up to Ritterstasse 11. (don't know if this is know by another name.)

You basically go in at the bottom floor and then up in a lift to the topfloor and ring the bell and wait.

I got the feeling that not many of the girls had very good English, but managed to get by, I was led to a room and sat down then four Girls all reasonably decent but one stood out as soon as I saw her, individually they where brought in and introduced themselves and then I had to choose, assume there would be more choice on an evening than on a quiet Saturday afternoon.

Also on the wall was a menu and I think there would be something on there to satisfy everyones paticular needs, anal, rimming etc etc.

Starting price started at €60 for 20minutes which is great if you don't last for more than 5minutes. I went for 40mins for €80 and an extra €20 for kissing. Aparently for this package ypou are allowed to come twice if you can manage it.

I choose a Beutiful petite brunette Anna 25 from poland, fantastic little body and beautiful blue eyes. I was feeling a little hungover from the night before so not at my best, she was also extremely tight so had me coming in next to no time. As I'd paid for 40mins she gave good value and gave me a really nice massage for the remainder of my time, rather than throwing me out as soon as I shot my bolt.

The only word of warning is when you leave, I don't know if it was me but I couldn't find a way out as I was escorted to leave by the back exit and found myself in the courtyard with no way out. Fortunately I'm reasonably agile and managed to scale a fence and escape via a mercedes showroom.

I tried to phone them but there number wasn't recognised, if anyone knows how you are meant to get out as I would defnitely be interested in visiting again next time I'm in Berlin but having to scale a security fence to get out was a bit extreme.

[Angus Magee]

I always wondered what 'Gymstuhl' was - I've seen it advertised in many places - anybody care to enlighten me?

Thanks,

Charlie

Actually it is "Gynstuhl" or in English a Gynecological chair. The girl sits in it with feet in stirrups as you examine and/or fuck her. There is usually a small extra charge (at Liberty it is 10 extra for use of the chair) and you have to book the room in which the chair sits.

I guess one could get more inventive if one is into it and play out a whole examination role play game if one wants. The role play may also be charged for, I do not know.


AM

PS-this is of course in a bordello context. In a massage place the Gynstuhl might well be used for te man as the girl accesses his dick & anus for a massage. Iggy would have to enlighten us on that...

[Murkly70]

Hey Angus,

No, it was 200 because I live just outside Berlin so it's a bit more because of the distance. I always agree on the price on the phone before the girl is sent out.

Cheers

[Iggypup]

PS-this is of course in a bordello context. In a massage place the Gynstuhl might well be used for te man as the girl accesses his dick & anus for a massage. Iggy would have to enlighten us on that...Absolutely, that's the deal. You clamber aboard, legs spread and the girl has full access to tease, tickle and titillate. Maximum pleasure.

[Dave Lamd]

DCups--
Your money will be well spent with Maya at Mon Rouge. See my earlier report. She's beautiful, and in to it. Her boobs are fake though.
Dave

[Charlie 123]

Actually it is "Gynstuhl" or in English a Gynecological chair. The girl sits in it with feet in stirrups as you examine and/or fuck her. There is usually a small extra charge (at Liberty it is 10 extra for use of the chair) and you have to book the room in which the chair sits.

I guess one could get more inventive if one is into it and play out a whole examination role play game if one wants. The role play may also be charged for, I do not know.

AM

PS-this is of course in a bordello context. In a massage place the Gynstuhl might well be used for te man as the girl accesses his dick & anus for a massage. Iggy would have to enlighten us on that...OK, thx Angus

Probably not my thing.

Charlie

[Charlie 123]

DCups,

Your money will be well spent with Maya at Mon Rouge. See my earlier report. She's beautiful, and in to it. Her boobs are fake though.

DaveHmmmm. Are you 100% sure that they're fake?

They seemed pretty real to me. If they are man-made as you suggest, they're very well done, and swing and jiggle in all the right ways.

She's gorgeous either way, and a nice girl who really 'joins in' the fun. Just a treasure.

Charlie

[Angus Magee]

I am wondering if the girl you spent the lovely rainy afternoon cuddling might have been Nadja?

http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/images/girl13/girl.htm

The website says she is new but I recognize the pictures with the red net dress as having been on the website for some time. And I have had my eye on her as a possible candidate for a visit. Any more info that you have on her would be helpful to tip the scales.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Hmmmm. Are you 100% sure that they're fake?

They seemed pretty real to me.

I am of the opinion that if they look real, feel real and taste real, they are real unless I am informed otherwise. Unlike many, I am a lover of illusion and if the girl & her surgeon can pull off such a reality coup, Angus is not going to go looking for hidden strings.

After all, the young lovely's very name, Maya, also graces the Hindu Goddess of illusion and dreams. Understanding that all reality is illusion, yet still being able to enjoy life, may well be the soul point of this existence.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Hi Guys,

My blog is getting more active-or at least I am getting more active with my posts there. I have had the blog since last October but did not do much posting until recently. I guess these things need to sit for a while and grow roots or something.

The writing there is not so much about where to go-we have the ISG for that. Rather it is a about the more philosophical side of mongering, at least how I see it.

Have a look & a read if you feel to. Enjoy it. Questions & comments here or on the blog itself, are most welcomed.

www.angusmagee.com

AM

[Vompat]

Good work,

This is very interesting, have to take my time and read.

[Hazukis]

Any casual sex/Personals websites for Berlin? I know they had some magazines in the past, but it's been sometime since I've used them, I bet there must be something online.Take a look at

http://www.poppinserate.de

Sex Personals Website only.

Its free and you have nothing to subscribe.

[Angus Magee]

Good work,

This is very interesting, have to take my time and read.


Thanks Vombat. And I have ideas for new posts just not as much time to write as I would like. World Cup fever here in Berlin. I am working in a small beer garden with a big TV screen so we are now getting ready for Sunday's game. Should be a zoo.

AM

[Iggypup]

I am wondering if the girl you spent the lovely rainy afternoon cuddling might have been Nadja?

http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/images/girl13/girl.htm

The website says she is new but I recognize the pictures with the red net dress as having been on the website for some time. And I have had my eye on her as a possible candidate for a visit. Any more info that you have on her would be helpful to tip the scales.

AMHi Angus,

Yes, that's her. They are stretching the definition of 'new' here with some abandon, as I recall it was well over a year ago. Quite probably around January '09 that I visited her. Anyway. A charming, friendly and wicked girl, with a real penchant (or, so she said), for English-speaking guys. Even if she was *just* saying that, her English was fluent and she made the whole experience completely memorable. Fooling around in the jacuzzi, at one point, she mentioned that a lot of her friends loved to fuck in their jacuzzis. I am not sure if this comment was followed by a sly wink, but I believe it was and wish I had been a bit more receptive to it, instead of drooling helplessly as she sat behind me, tucked her legs around me and massaged my back with her slick, oiled body. However, as I say, that was some time ago now. YMMV.

As time goes by, this spontaneity obviously diminishes. For instance, I remember visiting short, neat Alina at Aphrodite's in Brunnenstrasse shortly after she joined. She used to work in a circus (!) I think, and had trained as a professional masseur. Her massage skills were certainly well above anything I had previously experienced, she was talking about her days in the circus and how she had ended up in Berlin etc etc and as the hour-long appointment wore on, we got into all sorts of tangles, ending up with a long DATY session and DFK. However, after a few months when I visited her again, it was markedly more mechanical and reserved, certainly none of the relaxed spontaneity of my first encounter. (However, she went on to deliver yet another excellent massage and HR).

[Jeff R]

Has anyone been to the Freies Praxis in Courbierstrasse? I was there recently and had an amazing session with a blonde, middle-aged lady (who used to be a professional yachtswoman, of all things). Great body, massage, spot of dom action, 'gynstuhl' etc. Ending up with great HR, lots of eye contact and breathy encouragement. Well recommended.Hi Iggy,

I'm heading to Berlin for first time in a few weeks. I read your post above about a great massage session you recently experienced. I've tried to search for additional information about this place, but with no success.

I will show my ignorance and ask if Courbierstrasse is a street in Berlin? Wondering if you could post the contact information for this place. If they have a web site or phone number. I guess you don't remember the name of the girl who gave you the massage, but any info to describe her might help.

Thanks, I really appreciate any info.

Jeff

[Angus Magee]

I will show my ignorance and ask if Courbierstrasse is a street in Berlin? Wondering if you could post the contact information for this place. If they have a web site or phone number. I guess you don't remember the name of the girl who gave you the massage, but any info to describe her might help.

Thanks, I really appreciate any info.


Iggy will have to fill you in on names but here is the website.

http://www.freie-praxis.de/

The website is in English & German so I am guessing that they look for the visitor trade. If you want to see more of what is available in Berlin here is the link to a Berlin sex trade portal.

http://www.rotlichtadresse.de/index.php?template=1

And you might want to look at my Berlin Guide with a small, and much out of date (I am not a massage guy normally), section on massage places.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48

and for a more current (last Summer) updated bordello scene.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=975156&postcount=1936

Angus

[Kasper 81]

Hi all,

Fellow lovers of the pink box. I will hit Berlin next week, and plan to visit Caligula, Club 59 and Rose16 (milf brothel, need to try once in my life).

Any recent visits and comments/suggestions?

When I get back I will post my own experience.

Kasper

[Angus Magee]

Hi all,

Fellow lovers of the pink box. I will hit Berlin next week, and plan to visit Caligula, Club 59 and Rose16 (milf brothel, need to try once in my life).

Any recent visits and comments/suggestions?

When I get back I will post my own experience.

Kasper


I am pretty sure that there is a Caligula report not very far back in this thread. But it is, as I remember, not a really comprehensive report. As I can tell reports from Caligula are mixed. It seems that you can have a good time there but some reports suggest reluctant, unresponsive girls. I think it depends on the mongers ability to coax a spot of fun out of the situation.

As for the other two places you mention, they would be firsts for the forum and very welcomed.

AM

[Figge03]

Anyone knows if there are a real pornstar going for escort in Berlin?

Most lucky for Eastern european girls.

Thanks!

[Bearsk]

Kasper
Angus is correct, nothing on the forum on these two.
Websites are interesting:
http://www.club-59.de/home.php
http://www.rose16.de/index.html
BSK



As for the other two places you mention, they would be firsts for the forum and very welcomed.

AM

[Dogfishuae]

First I would like to thank everyone who contributes to this site, its information is always useful.

After reviewing all the comments in the Berlin area, it appeared to me that Liberty on Martin Luther Strasse (http://www.Libertyberlin. De/) was as close to a sure thing as I could get for my first time out. You guys didn't lead me astray.

1st Visit. Met by the older German lady at the door, no English, but she quickly sent in someone who did speak English and asked me what I was looking for. I stated that I wanted 40 minutes and anal on the menu. Within 30 seconds they introduced me to 3 beautiful women. I selected Toni and I have to say that the pictures on the web site of her do not do her justice. They must be at least a year old, as she has lost weight, looks great by the way, and has added a couple of nice tattoos, but its clearly her. Anyway, after about 30 seconds of selecting Toni, she comes in and says sorry, there has been a mistake, she doesn't do anal. She was very apologetic about it, went on and on, saying that she didn't want to do that for work, she was saving it for that special man in her life someday, that after all of this (her work) he would know he was the first to do that wow yeah I know, I had only known her for 18 seconds and she dropped all that on me. She really does seem like a nice girl. She then tried to convince me that maybe if I didn't really want anal she would be happy to give me a BBBJ and cim. She almost had me! Haha but for some reason was just in the mood for a great ass. She said she understood, and that I seemed like a nice guy and she would check with a friend of hers that didn't 'normally' do anal, but sometimes did if she liked that guy. 30 seconds later she brings me Jenna OMG. Tiny little bombshell, with a great ass, couldn't be more than 35 kilos she proceeded to question me for 5 minutes on the size of my Johnson, haha. She said that she couldn't do it if it was too big, since she was so small. She didn't want to say yes, only to say no later. I finally convinced her that I am just normal sized and off to the room we went. So guys, if you have an 8 inch cock, even though it says anal on her resume area, she won't do it. Very nice girl, was friendly, and her English was excellent. Started with a little strip tease, then put her on her back and started warming up both areas with my fingers and some lube, she loved it. (Later stating that most guys just want to slam it in there without warming her up) Put the jimmy on, 2-3 minutes of a decent BJ, it's hard to judge with a jimmy on honestly, then normal sex for 4-5 minutes, then on to the main attraction. She made me go real slow for 4-5 minutes as she adjusted, but let me pound away when I finished shortly after that. Finished with a nice conversation and a nice backrub. Will go back again, had a great time. 80 euro for 40 minutes, 40 euro for anal. 120 was a bargain

Note to anyone who is a maybe a little shy, Liberty sits above a XXX Theater, so when the cab dropped me off 1st time it was a little embarrassing. BUT, the next day, I told the cab to drop me at 8 Martin Luther Strasse, which is a nice upscale car dealership, its only 50 meters away.

2nd Visit – So, all night that night all I could think about was Toni and that BBBJ and cim! Haha So I went back today. Toni wasn't there bummer. But it was early, maybe 3pm and they had 6 really nice looking girls. Not all of them were my type, but I can honestly say they were all attractive. In a trance almost at this point, all I had thought about all day was cute Toni. So I just randomly selected a name that I remembered from the line up, might have been Serena. She said that she only worked there on Mondays, and the web site link for Serena shows exactly that. But I can't say for sure that it was her. Anyway, distraught that Toni wasn't there just paid for 20 minutes and a BBBJ and cim. She was friendly, good conversation before, funny, nice girl, and when it came time to perform, she did well. She wasn't able to take it all, not a deep throat specialist, but a good BJ none the less. 40 euro for 20 minutes, 30 euro for BBBJ and cim.

Now I am back at the hotel, wondering what I will do tomorrow! Any suggestions? Is King George really worth it? Is the quality there?

Later on, will post more soon from Dubai, and Uruguay.

[Dogfishuae]

First I would like to thank everyone who contributes to this site, its information is always useful.

After reviewing all the comments in the Berlin area, it appeared to me that Liberty on Martin Luther Strasse (http://www.Libertyberlin.de/) was as close to a sure thing as I could get for my first time out. You guys didn't lead me astray.

1st Visit. Met by the older German lady at the door, no English, but she quickly sent in someone who did speak English and asked me what I was looking for. I stated that I wanted 40 minutes and anal on the menu. Within 30 seconds they introduced me to 3 beautiful women. I selected Toni and I have to say that the pictures on the web site of her do not do her justice. They must be at least a year old, as she has lost weight, looks great by the way, and has added a couple of nice tattoos, but its clearly her. Anyway, after about 30 seconds of selecting Toni, she comes in and says sorry, there has been a mistake, she doesn't do anal. She was very apologetic about it, went on and on, saying that she didn't want to do that for work, she was saving it for that special man in her life someday, that after all of this (her work) he would know he was the first to do that wow yeah I know, I had only known her for 18 seconds and she dropped all that on me. She really does seem like a nice girl. She then tried to convince me that maybe if I didn't really want anal she would be happy to give me a BBBJ and cim. She almost had me! Haha but for some reason was just in the mood for a great ass. She said she understood, and that I seemed like a nice guy and she would check with a friend of hers that didn't 'normally' do anal, but sometimes did if she liked that guy. 30 seconds later she brings me Jenna OMG. Tiny little bombshell, with a great ass, couldn't be more than 35 kilos she proceeded to question me for 5 minutes on the size of my Johnson, haha. She said that she couldn't do it if it was too big, since she was so small. She didn't want to say yes, only to say no later. I finally convinced her that I am just normal sized and off to the room we went. So guys, if you have an 8 inch cock, even though it says anal on her resume area, she won't do it. Very nice girl, was friendly, and her English was excellent. Started with a little strip tease, then put her on her back and started warming up both areas with my fingers and some lube, she loved it. (Later stating that most guys just want to slam it in there without warming her up) Put the jimmy on, 2-3 minutes of a decent BJ, it's hard to judge with a jimmy on honestly, then normal sex for 4-5 minutes, then on to the main attraction. She made me go real slow for 4-5 minutes as she adjusted, but let me pound away when I finished shortly after that. Finished with a nice conversation and a nice backrub. Will go back again, had a great time. 80 euro for 40 minutes, 40 euro for anal. 120 was a bargain

Note to anyone who is a maybe a little shy, Liberty sits above a XXX Theater, so when the cab dropped me off 1st time it was a little embarrassing. BUT, the next day, I told the cab to drop me at 8 Martin Luther Strasse, which is a nice upscale car dealership, its only 50 meters away.

2nd Visit – So, all night that night all I could think about was Toni and that BBBJ and cim! Haha So I went back today. Toni wasn't there bummer. But it was early, maybe 3pm and they had 6 really nice looking girls. Not all of them were my type, but I can honestly say they were all attractive. In a trance almost at this point, all I had thought about all day was cute Toni. So I just randomly selected a name that I remembered from the line up, might have been Serena. She said that she only worked there on Mondays, and the web site link for Serena shows exactly that. But I can't say for sure that it was her. Anyway, distraught that Toni wasn't there just paid for 20 minutes and a BBBJ and cim. She was friendly, good conversation before, funny, nice girl, and when it came time to perform, she did well. She wasn't able to take it all, not a deep throat specialist, but a good BJ none the less. 40 euro for 20 minutes, 30 euro for BBBJ and cim.

Now I am back at the hotel, wondering what I will do tomorrow! Any suggestions? Is King George really worth it? Is the quality there?

Later on, will post more soon from Dubai, and Uruguay.

[Angus Magee]

Now I am back at the hotel, wondering what I will do tomorrow! Any suggestions? Is King George really worth it? Is the quality there?Hard to say as we all have different standards when it comes to girls. But a look on the website does show a nu ber of girls I would certainly consider "do-able". And remember that the pics on the website are usually less flattering to the ladies. That is they look better in person. I think if you show up at King George and act like a gentleman you can have a good time there. It might not be quite the quality of Liberty (or Artemis) but you can not argue the price can you.

AM

[Dogfishuae]

Really wanted to go back to Liberty for Toni this afternoon as the web site said she would be there today. But decided that I had better venture out and try a different spot. Went to Tiffany's (http://www.Ritter11. De/berlin-bordell.php) and apparently it was really busy as they only presented two girls to me. Emelie and Kelly Kelly by the way was gorgeous! BUT, I remember reading up on her bio on the site and she doesn't do anal, BBBJ or cim, and I was really looking for at least one out of three.

So I was about to leave when one more girl popped in, it was Tessa. I had done my research and remembered that she did do what I was looking for. The layout at Tiffany's is really nice, the room was clean, well furnished, no attached bathroom but it was right next door. Paid for 50 minutes, 100 euro, 25 extra for anal. They advertise that on the 50 minute price you can cum twice. Tessa isn't normally my type, but have to say she was a star after the 1st round she gave me a fantastic massage, really good! Not the normal hands on your back rubbing around for 5 minutes. It was a proper, hard, long, massage, great hands. After that we chatted for 5 or 10 minutes, very nice girl. With 15 minutes to go, she asked me if I wanted to go again. I said "work your magic and lets see what happens" haha. It worked, she's good and doesn't mind a good pounding! In summary, Tessa was good at her job. Not a stunner, but good attitude.

[Angus Magee]

Anyone knows if there are a real pornstar going for escort in Berlin?

Most lucky for Eastern european girls.

Thanks!There are a few "porn stars" working in bordellos if you search the various websites.

Try this portal: http://www.rotlichtadresse.de/

or some more indy girls advertise here: http://www.berlinintim.de/

Off the top of my head there is one girl billed as a Pornosternchen at Freudenhaus-Angel

http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/angel.html

But if you are looking for big name porn stars you may have to google it yourself and look for one who is willing to travel from EE. But it will not be cheap.

[Alex1966]

Folks, this forum page is extraordinary!

I will be in berlin in a few weeks, so I checked out what you guys are telling about, it's simply IMPRESSIVE! Only a few other city pages on ISG are as good as berlin page. So thanks to every one putting something to that.

As I will be in berlin for a short period, I plan a few hotel in calls, mostly massages. Will tell you about the experiences.

Be safe,

Alex

[Bobby Ewing]

Last weekend me and my friend went to Berlin for a concert and some mongering. First we went for a tantra massage as recommended by the forum.

The first place to check out was the Harmoniemassagen (http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/) mentioned below, but I didn't get a good vibe entering the place. There were 3 girls, Fairy, Melli and probably Jenny. Fairy opened the door and just expected me to go straight to the room with her and acted surprised when I wanted to check out the place, price list and girls before commit to anything. The brunette (probably Jenny) sat in the sofa and looked annoyed and only Melli had a smile. Perhaps this is a good massage place, just not for me that day, so I left without doing anything there.

Next I went to Exstase massage (http://www.ekstasemassage.de/) which is close by with a short walk from Harmonie. There I had some confusion getting in, since there is a window at the bottom floor to the street and when buzzed in thru the port, there is a door to the right with the Exstase name on it. Well, it was the wrong door and a helpful neighbor told me it was on the next floor, so I had to take the stairs.

Once inside I was presented with 3 girls of which only one could speak any English. Finally I decided to try Lucy for a 30 min tantramassage for €60.
http://www.ekstasemassage.de/html/lucy.html
No penetration and no oral, but the massage was fantastic with a happy ending. This was a first for me and I am definitely going to do this again! I was so happy with Lucy that I gave her a small tip on the way out.
Highly recommended!

The next day my friend wanted to see a real strip tease show. We ended up at the Rush Hour club (http://www.rush-hour-berlin.de/).
It was €20 at the door and we were handed 10 fake dollar bills to be given to the dancing girls. There were about 20-25 girls and always two on stage dancing a song or two. Afterwards the dancing girls went to every table receive a dollar bill or two from every customer. Once the fake dollarbills were spent, new ones can be bought at the bar for €1 per fake $1.
One could buy a girl drink (€35) to have them sit down with you for a while or go to a room for a private lap dance (€100). There was no prostitution in the club and therefore it was just teasing and no delivery, so I found it boring after a while. The beer was reasonably priced and the club seemed safe, so if you just want to see some strip tease you could go there for a while I guess.

The next day I wanted to some ordinary mongering and being on a tight budget at the moment, I had to skip Artemis this time and go for a more valuable option.

I choose the Tiffany bordello at the Ritter strasse 11 in Kreuzberg near the U-bahn station of Moritzplatz. I had seen the Youtube video about the club (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDclAX5YdiU), so It was easy to find my way to the club and inside the place.

Once inside the club I was rushed to a small room with a computer and then about 5-6 girls came in very fast once at a time to present themselves. It was way too fast for my taste, but I had done some research before on their website (http://www.ritter11.de/berlin-bordell.php) where you can see who is working and their times. All information on the webpage seems to be accurate so you can probably be confident in your expectations when you go there.

I had a top 3 selection in my head which was very helpful in this rushed selection period. First was Anna who was busy at the moment, second choice was Kelly who was available, so I picked her. (http://ritter11.de/bordell-girls/kelly.php)

Kelly is even more fit then the pictures indicate. She is from Berlin but her parents are Polish and has worked there for 3 years according to herself.

What an excellent choice!
She started with asking me if I wanted something to drink and gave me a Coke along with a cookie. Then in the room she asked how long time I wanted and if I wanted any extras. I choose 30 mins for €60 and no extras. Then it was time for the fun stuff! She asked if I wanted a massage before or after. I said after since the "massages" usually are pretty poor and I wanted the full 30 min for sex.

She agreed to do all positions I wanted, DATY, fingering and awesome dirty talk and moaning during the sex, total GFE! The excellent performance with that super tight body of hers, made me finish in only 15 min! Afterwards most pros just pulls out as fast as they can when I'm done. Not so with Kelly, she waited until I pulled out myself!

Now most pros would start getting dressed and kick me out. Not so with Kelly, she asked if I wanted that massage now and I of course, a bit surprised, agreed. The massage was also excellent with a good talk about the club and prostitution in Germany and Berlin. She explained why they close so early (22.00) and that they focus on business men as customers and not the party people. She is excellent in English so it was really easy to talk with her.

When the time was up, she didn't just tell me that the time is up but asked if I felt relaxed! Fantastic! When I got dressed I gave her an extra €20 as a tip, she was really worth it.

In my 12 years of mongering, Kelly is easy on the top five of my p4p experiences ever! I can only highly recommend the Tiffany bordello and Kelly!

Having been to Artemis and Monrouge before I must say that Berlin is now becoming my favorite city for mongering, partying and touristing! Maybe it is time to move there.

[Kasper 81]

Fellow lovers of the pink box, here is my report:

Fredenhaus: went there early in the morning (my dick never watches the clock!), 4 girls available. Chose Jasmin (pics on website). Very nice session, 20 minutes 30 euros, kind and smiling, many positions. Liked the place and the attitude, will come back.

Rose 16 (MILF): I wanted to try, but no one answered at the door. Is it closed already?

Caligula: had to try it. Now I know it is not my bread and butter. Had to choose between 50 euros 1 hour, or 100 euros all day (not possible to buy the 30 euros token advertised on website, but the doorman was 1. 95, I am 1. 80 so better not to argue!).

Opted for 50 euros, 5-6 girls dancing, 3-4 good looking (not stunners, I'd say 7-8), but very bad attitude! Had to maximise my time, so I went right away for the first fuck. Seedy rooms, unclean (cum stains on the bed), didn't like the session (off the bikini, lie on the bed, spread the legs and goodbye my friend. I don't like this attitude). Lasted 10 minutes. Grabbed a coke while watching a world cup game on the screen. Then looked at the girls for 20 minutes, just to get my friend back to life, choose another girl for the second cheap, quick fuck of the day. Bottom line, either you go with a large group of friends, otherwise you get bored soon in there. Will not repeat.

Hope this was helpful!

Ah, in Caligula one girl offered me BBBJ, which I of course refused for obvious reasons! STAY SAFE!

[Angus Magee]

Folks, this forum page is extraordinary!

I will be in berlin in a few weeks, so I checked out what you guys are telling about, it's simply IMPRESSIVE! Only a few other city pages on ISG are as good as berlin page. So thanks to every one putting something to that.

As I will be in berlin for a short period, I plan a few hotel in calls, mostly massages. Will tell you about the experiences.

Be safe,

Alex

Why thank you very much Alex-we do our best here and I think it shows.

I look forward to your reports.

AM

[Angus Magee]

The next day my friend wanted to see a real strip tease show. We ended up at the Rush Hour club (http://www.rush-hour-berlin.de/).

It was €20 at the door and we were handed 10 fake dollar bills to be given to the dancing girls. There were about 20-25 girls and always two on stage dancing a song or two. Afterwards the dancing girls went to every table receive a dollar bill or two from every customer. Once the fake dollarbills were spent, new ones can be bought at the bar for €1 per fake $1.
One could buy a girl drink (€35) to have them sit down with you for a while or go to a room for a private lap dance (€100). There was no prostitution in the club and therefore it was just teasing and no delivery, so I found it boring after a while. The beer was reasonably priced and the club seemed safe, so if you just want to see some strip tease you could go there for a while I guess.


Many thanks for the report Bobby. I will post to the RoD thread as it contains good info on under reported places.

I found interesting you take on the table dance bar Rush Hour. Myself I can not see the point of spending 100 Euros just to be teased by a lap dance? At Artemis (as I am sure you know) you can throw in an extra 10 and receive a half hour suck & fuck with cim-or for 20 more a full hour with no extras. I would much rather do this myself. But I guess table dance places have there niche and fit for some guys. Good to get a report here of this place.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Caligula: had to try it. Now I know it is not my bread and butter. Had to choose between 50 euros 1 hour, or 100 euros all day (not possible to buy the 30 euros token advertised on website, but the doorman was 1. 95, I am 1. 80 so better not to argue!).

Opted for 50 euros, 5-6 girls dancing, 3-4 good looking (not stunners, I'd say 7-8), but very bad attitude! Had to maximise my time, so I went right away for the first fuck. Seedy rooms, unclean (cum stains on the bed), didn't like the session (off the bikini, lie on the bed, spread the legs and goodbye my friend. I don't like this attitude). Lasted 10 minutes. Grabbed a coke while watching a world cup game on the screen. Then looked at the girls for 20 minutes, just to get my friend back to life, choose another girl for the second cheap, quick fuck of the day. Bottom line, either you go with a large group of friends, otherwise you get bored soon in there. Will not repeat.

Hope this was helpful!

Ah, in Caligula one girl offered me BBBJ, which I of course refused for obvious reasons! STAY SAFE!

Thanks Kasper for TOFTT (taking one for the team) and reporting on Caligula. It does not sound too good but then it only set you back a 50 for two sessions so it can not have been that painful. As I understand it the girls at Caligula (I was told this by a working girl) make about 1200/month plus what they can pull in from extras. Not too good when you consider a hard working girl at Artemis can make that in an evening.

Also I happened to walk up the block in which Caligula is situated yesterday afternoon at around 15:00. There is a small döner kabab place on the corner of Martin-Luther Str. and Fuggerstr. Seated outside was a table of girls I thought had to be the late afternoon/evening shift at Caligula grabbing a bite before the shift starts. All of them were very slutily dressed and some were, to my eyes, quite "doable". But then there seem to be an extra thrill involved in seeing the girls outside their normal environs and maybe they would not look so good at 03:00 hrs.?

[Tommyh80]

I'm going to Berlin soon, and Im planning 10-15 girls for the weekend, so I need something to help my little friend :-D

Anyone know where to get Cialis, Viagra or something else that will help my little friend through the weekend? :-D

Btw, im planning to go to Artemis every day since it seems to me from reports it is the best looking girls working there.

[Dogfishuae]

after 5 beautiful days in berlin, its time to go home. yesterday morning, i took a couple of my friends down to liberty. it was early, 11am! but we had other plans that afternoon so a morning run was essential. surprisingly good lineup for 11am they took angelina and anastasia. i took roxy, who is not yet listed on the web page and said she had only been at liberty for 2 weeks.

roxy is russian, great body, beautiful face. but i can't give her a good report for a couple reasons. her only extra on offer is anal, and she charges 50 euro, not the house standard and listed price of 40 euro. i briefly argued with her, ok argue would be too strong a word, discussed, that the price is only 40 euro. she gave me the take it or leave it speech as she bent over the bed. i couldn't resist, i paid the 50 but i have been around long enough to know that if her attitude up front was bad, the entire session was going to be bad. came time to get down to it, would only allow it to happen in one position and constantly had her hands on my hips only allowing me to go about half way. could see that it wasn't going to be fun, and just finished up as fast as possible. got a terrible massage for the last 15 minutes and then got the boot. great face, great body, bad attitude maybe it was too early in the morning. and everyone can have a bad day, i realize that, but i certainly will not go back to her again.

my friends said that angelina and anastasia were top notch! both gave very good grades, high praise on all areas, performance, body, attitude etc.

headed home thanks again for all who contribute and i will continue to post on other areas around the world.

[Bobby Ewing]

Many thanks for the report Bobby. I will post to the RoD thread as it contains good info on under reported places.

I found interesting you take on the table dance bar Rush Hour. Myself I can not see the point of spending 100 Euros just to be teased by a lap dance? At Artemis (as I am sure you know) you can throw in an extra 10 and receive a half hour suck & fuck with cim-or for 20 more a full hour with no extras. I would much rather do this myself. But I guess table dance places have there niche and fit for some guys. Good to get a report here of this place.

AMI totally agree with you about the €100 lapdance. I know I can have girls like Kelly for €60-80 mentioned in my previous post, so the €100 lapdance was never going to happen with me.

It was my friend who is a beginner in this hobby who had cold feet and didn't want to go all the way, just visit a stripjoint and enjoy the view. He bought the €35 bottle of sparkling wine with a girl and she sat there for at least an hour. He probably could've felt her up a bit in there but he was to shy, so they only talked the entire time.

I just bought a coke there for €5 for 20cl (total ripoff!) and an extra bunch of fake dollars. So I only spent about €60 in the place and got to feel up some boobs and asses. If the €100 would actually include a nice session in a room, I think it would be an awesome place!

Why is it so difficult to find the perfect place with lots of hot girls, really good striptease (as seen in various american films or TV-series) combined with a professional roomservice provided in places like Tiffany, Monrogue or any FKK?

The closest thing I've seen is Atlas bar and Darling cabaret in Prague. Sadly the girls at these places are a bit too expensive and provide very poor service, but the concept is as close I have found to what I really want.

[Angus Magee]

I'm going to Berlin soon, and Im planning 10-15 girls for the weekend, so I need something to help my little friend :-D

Anyone know where to get Cialis, Viagra or something else that will help my little friend through the weekend? :-D

Btw, im planning to go to Artemis every day since it seems to me from reports it is the best looking girls working there.

You will get nothing in Berlin (or anywhere else in Germany) without a prescription from your doctor. If you have that, you will get it at any apotek. Germany is more strict about this than most places. I can not even buy a simple antibiotic wound cream here without a 'script from the doctor.

I can though point you towards a couple of nice oyster bars.

[The AF]

Hi all,

after a long time I tried one of the Berlin brothels again and chose a very classy and clean one, which is always recommendable and after all not too expensive.

After checking out a disappointing line at Feudenhaus Hase, I went to Liberty to check who is there. There were a few nice ladies (whose names I forgot, think Celine, Heidi and Lucy were amng them) but none really stroke me instantly to go for it. So I asked the vey friendly House-Mama-San for Carmen, who I had seen on the site and who only works here on Sunday's (but also on Thursdays and Saturdays at Salon Prestige). One of the reasons I asked for her was that I knew she offers the magic tripple: French kissing, BBBJ and CIF or alternatively CIM. So I took ol' Angus's advice and took half hour or even 40 minutes rather than a Quicky. 130 Euro was the damage and it was a well invested amount for a very nice and sexual session. She is a very sweet girl and gives a very magnificent blow job. Also you always have the feeling that she enjoys to give a man his Porn Experience.
She is German and even though I have a strong preferrance for Eastern European and sometimes Asian women...I was very satisfied with her performance and especially attitude..!!

If you like it nice, sweet but dirty...she is definetly a good choice. Even though she does not have a look like a model (face- and bodywise) she is in total very sexy..!!

I can for sure recommend her and also recommend Liberty..!! Well run, clean and friendly place..!!

Cheers,
The AF

[Charlie 123]

Rose 16 (MILF): I wanted to try, but no one answered at the door. Is it closed already?I would be very wary of Rose 16.

I think that it is a new place - certainly I only noticed it for the first time about 8 weeks ago when trawling through the Berlin-Intim webpages. Because I am somewhat partial to MILFs, I put it straight on my list of venues to attend upon my next visit.

Two weeks later I turned up in Berlin, called Rose 16 only to discover that the two ladies that I had picked out from the website had already departed. Upon my next visit, a fortnight later, I called up on arrival in Berlin to make an appointment with one of the girls whose availability I had established on the 'phone the day before. She wasn't there that day, and nor were any of the other women on the website. Now she has vanished permanantly. The Hausfrau assured me that they had lots of other 'lovely ladies' in situ, but I won't visit a Wohnungspuff unless I know that there is at least one girl present whom I have identified from the website as being of interest.

In short, the rapid turnover in staff and the unreliability I have experienced on the phone lead me to suspect that this place may be no good. Right now there aren't any ladies on the website that take my fancy, but if I happen to spot a new girl in the coming weeks that appeals to me I may give them one last chance. In the meantime, they have been removed from my list of places to inspect.

Charlie

[Angus Magee]

I would be very wary of Rose 16.

I think you nailed this one Charlie. I just read a pretty luke warm report on this place on the local Berlin forum. To sum up-not a terrible experience but not one to repeat either. About the only thing the place seems to have going for it is a central location. But if you are into MILFs there are much better places to find them in Berlin.

I wonder, Charlie, if you have ever been to Herz, near Alt-Mariendorf in south Berlin? I visited once and remember it was full of MILFs. Not my thing so I left, but it has been around for a while and appears well established with a steady stable of women. Just no teeny girls;)

http://www.herzberlin.de/index.html

AM

[Charlie 123]

I wonder, Charlie, if you have ever been to Herz, near Alt-Mariendorf in south Berlin? I visited once and remember it was full of MILFs. Not my thing so I left, but it has been around for a while and appears well established with a steady stable of women. Just no teeny girls;)

http://www.herzberlin.de/index.html

AMNo, Angus, I've never tried it, but I have looked at their site often and there have been one or two girls I've fancied in the past of whom only Johanna remains listed there.

Since I started going to Artemis I've found it difficult to engender much enthusiasm for the bordelle scene. Occasionally I come across a picture of a girl I really get the hots for, but in general I prefer the FKK model where we get the opportunity to chat to a girl for a while and watch her 'work the room' before having to commit to a session. Making up one's mind from the line-up after a 10 second introduction and a quick handshake in the bedroom of a bordelle feels like a dreadfully poor method of selection by comparison.

In short, in the absence of a firm recommendation from a reliable poster on this forum, I don't usually bother with bordelles these days, with the occasional exception of the always reliable institution of Monrouge

Cheers,

Charlie

[The AF]

Hi all,

I know the Escort scene is probably not the best established scene in this town. However, I am wondering if anyone ever tried or read about this agency, which seems to be a small but maybe fine one:

http://www.escort-sex24.de/

Especially Paris and Karolina seem interesting.

Anyone?

Cheers,
The AF

[Tommyh80]

Anyone can recoment a good thai massasge place in Berlin with nice looking girls?

[Angus Magee]

Hi all,

I know the Escort scene is probably not the best established scene in this town. However, I am wondering if anyone ever tried or read about this agency, which seems to be a small but maybe fine one:

http://www.escort-sex24.de/

Especially Paris and Karolina seem interesting.

Anyone?

Cheers,
The AF

Hi AF,

I guess you know that I rarely will use the services of an escort here in Berlin and thus have no direct experience with these girls. But I can say that they have been in the past extensively discussed on Verkehrsberichte and most reports are positive. In short they are said to be nice hard working Polish girls.

But I have to say the website is a special type of flash hell if you ask me.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Since I started going to Artemis I've found it difficult to engender much enthusiasm for the bordelle scene. Occasionally I come across a picture of a girl I really get the hots for, but in general I prefer the FKK model where we get the opportunity to chat to a girl for a while and watch her 'work the room' before having to commit to a session. Making up one's mind from the line-up after a 10 second introduction and a quick handshake in the bedroom of a bordelle feels like a dreadfully poor method of selection by comparison.


Could have written this myself Charlie. Since first going to Artemis I find the normal bordello encounter a bit difficult to muster much enthusiasm for. I tend to chose my occasional bordello visits off the web pages when a picture captures my attention. But over all, the FKK set up suits me much better.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Anyone can recoment a good thai massasge place in Berlin with nice looking girls?


There are so many Thai massage places in Berlin. Many of them are tiny little two or three girl places with no website. You just show up and take what is on offer. Some of these places are more geared towards sexual service, some less and it is hard to say which are which until you visit. But generally the sleazier looking the place, the more likelihood you can get a bj or even full service. Rare is the place where you will not receive at the end a hand job as part of your massage-happy ending.

If you look at the Thai massage section of this site http://www.rotlichtadresse.de/ you will find some of the bigger places and they may have more on offer as they advertise on a sex portal. But no guarantees.

I can not say more as I rarely use Thai massage and when I do I just want a massage with happy ending.

AM