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Joecaddy

02-18-03, 07:01

Hey Guys

Wanted to share a few details after spending another few nights in Amsterdam, it keeps getting better and better “for me at least”. Maybe its because every time I exit a kamer with the biggest ear to ear grin of total satisfaction, maybe its because of such a variety of women to select from, whichever it may be I totally give Amsterdam a thumbs up! This last trip I concentrated on the Singel area, even though there is less girls in this part of town its seems they are more friendly, more personal and overall very pleasurable. Not all the girls here are babes, however there are some that are striking and very pretty. As far as prices? There still is flexibility depending on who you choose, I met a sweetie in her late 20’s who was so cool, she said her price was 50 Euro, I did have a 50 spot on me but after sadly telling her I could not do it cause I needed some cash to get to the airport tomorrow, she actually said because I told her in a nice way she will give me a break and let me in for 35 Euro. On the other hand this 23 year old who was a total doll, was no less then normal 50 Euro. Saw an older woman about 45, a bit older and still pretty, nice figure, long hair with great breasts and her price was 35 Euro total. The best thing I can suggest to have fun time, be selective and remember that it’s ok to say no if you don’t like what you see after you enter the door. There are a few women that after getting a bit closer seemed not so erotic anymore, maybe the tone of voice and attitude, so I simply said I did not have so much cash with me, turned and split. No worries. I also look for the most sincere average women, ones who make just that right move to catch my interest. Enjoy guys, Amsterdam’s a blast and I can’t stay away, April I will be back!

Joecaddy…..

Laloupe

02-18-03, 14:33

I would like to have information about your visits with Asian girls
I would be interested by one session approx 1 hour

How much is it for that?

if possible with Yat, Mai,da,den

thanks

BBBJ

02-20-03, 00:29

Hi fellow hobbyers!

Does anybody know where I can get a BBBJ in Amsterdam (or anywhere else in Holland)?

I know it will cost more than normal, but for a BBBJ it would be well worth it.

....or is Asia the only place left on the globe where one can easilly get a BBBJ?

Help me out guys! Thanks!

FreakWincy

02-20-03, 15:06

Has anyone ever had luck scoring anal in the RLD? I have been there twice and had no luck. Any hints would be appreciated.

Thanks
freakwincy

BenDover57

02-21-03, 02:52

BBBJ

In my experience, your best bet for a BBBJ in A-Dam is in the RLD with an Hispanic Lady. They are fewer in numbers than in years past ... but some are still there. It helps if you can "hablo" a little Spanish. When she opens the door ask ..."quantos" (how much... this establishes your credability), then ask "chupa sin condom" (suck without a condom). Forget asking permission to "creme in te boca" (cum in your mouth... just do that anyway).

In general, the Hispanic ladies are mixed-in with the Africans around the Old Church, or in the alley adjacent to the Old Sailor Bar. Good Hunting.... and keep your powder dry.

BBBJ

02-21-03, 17:07

Thanks for the advice bendover57,

I will try for sure and post the report here as soon as I get lucky.

Can I take from your advise that you have received a bbbj in the RLD?

If yes, I'd love to hear your experience with this and what you paid for it.

Thanks in advance!

BBBJ

etancheetanche

02-22-03, 11:01

I am in Amsterdam I would like to have sex with two dutch sexy girls.

Does any have an idea where i can find this experience.

Thank you

BBBJ

02-23-03, 23:19

etancheetanche,

What you're looking for is fairly easy to find.

Just find a Dutch girl of your choice, walk up to the window and ask her if she'd like to do you with one of her colleages.

Very often they will be able to arrange this for you....at an extra charge of course.

Happy hunting!

Seahorse

02-24-03, 19:14

Hello people

BBBJ: getting the same as is in your nick will be quite difficult in the RLD, even if you hablo espagnol. I wouldnt advice hispanic ladies anyway, as often they'r not really engaged to you when paying them the regular fee (30 - 50 euro's)...
If you're a believer that HIV isnt spread via oral-genital contact, try your chances behind the Amsterdam CS where the streethookers linger. Unfortenalty, 99% of them are drugsaddicts, but I give u the best chance there. It's not easy to find a pretty gal at that place, but it's worth waiting, I've seen some real stunners in spite of their 'problem'.
U also might have a chance with the aunties, but I would be surprised if they will let you come in their mouth. Of course, u can just do it allthough I would be scared of them getting mean in an old-fashioned way ;)

As to anal contact, I'm even more pessimistic if its abt RLD. Best chance there's to read the adds in the newspapers (for Amsterdam "De Telegraaf" will do) where it's mostly speficied what ladies will offer you, allthough most likely u'll end up in a club or privat-house.

Getting laid by 2 ladies is indeed not difficult, if you don't mind spending xtra bucks. And that's often more than twice the fee. I asked a thai girl working in the RLD who would charge 50 EURO's for 30 minutes all in, but when I asked her gf to join, she suddenly raised the fee to 250 euro's. And that's more than my budget for a pair, even though they looked like pearls of Asia.

Patrick

02-25-03, 21:26

Seahorse,
I have just returned from Amsterdam,
and I was not aware of a scene at the
rear of the train station. Can you tell
us more about it - prices, where do you
go with the girls, is it considered safe,
exactly where is it situated?
I read that you have touched on quality
and that it can vary dramatically. I used
to prowl around the Hamburg station
scene for a while, but it became too
uncomfortable, and I used to feel
somewhat unsafe after there were
reports of a couple of girls being
murdered there. Not that I am thinking
of setting up a regular visit to the station
scene in Amsterdam, but it is knowledge to
have that something else is there...if that
is the way you feel today.

Joecaddy

02-26-03, 05:03

Ditto!

I to would like to know where "behind the train station" this action could be found. Where I stay everytime, is right next to Centraal Staation at the Ibis hotel and never have I seen any "street action" there or nearby for that reason. In some outlying areas of the RLD I have seen a couple not so great women that were "street girls" but they were totally obvious.

Joecaddy.....

Seahorse

02-26-03, 10:56

Joecaddy,

When you're in front of the IBIS hotel, that's still not the rear end of the station... Go through the main entrance of the station (or through one of the tunnels on either sides) to the rear end where the ferries are. Some hundred meters to the left and right of the station girls are lingering around to have them take you into your car (make eye-contact first and they will approach you, otherwise you might publish your needs to an ignorant traveller ;) and they'll direct you to a quiet place nearby where you can go ahead. I'm sure they will accompany you to your hotel too if you ask. Make sure you explain what you want. Possibly you'll get scared of some ugly skeletons walking around there(who probably will be glad to do a FS for 15 euro's) , but like I said previously I've seen real beauties too...

Make sure there's no police in sight, cuz the hookers are being there illegally, allthough most cops are kinda tolerant.
Lately when I pass there with my car its more quiet than some years ago (probably due to the more strict rules abt prostitution in Holland), but the women are still there.

Tip for those who visit Amsterdam by car: go to Amsterdam-north, and drive to the other side of the IJ, the big water behind the CS where the ferries go on and off... (crossing is free). Parking is still free there, and the ferry will take u in 5 minutes to the rear end of the CS and you'll avoid expensive parking costs or even a yellow wheel block. Even if you decide going downtown, its just a walk through the CS and you'll be at the beginning of the DAMRAK (very close to RLD).

Joecaddy

02-27-03, 05:07

Seahorse,

Thanks for the feedback, I am certainly going to walk around "more" and see if I really missed anything. I have been through the train station many times, to the right side and left side of the "rear" where it dumps you out literally to the waters edge. As I mentioned I have not seen anything personally there yet, but in April I will return and scout it all out. Just as patrick mentioned, "Not that I am thinking of setting up a regular visit to the station scene" but if you claim that there might be some goods to be found its certainly worth a few minutes of my time while I meander around aimlessly having the time of my life in a town that totally rocks!. If I find any jewels out there, I will let you all know.

Joecaddy.....

Marco Pole

03-01-03, 00:43

Hey Guys,

Anyone have any advice regarding the best websites for finding good airfares to Europe from the US? I just got laid off from my job but got a nice 6 month severance package, so I'd like to go have some fun for a couple months. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks
MP

Joecaddy

03-01-03, 04:38

Marco Pole,

If you e-mail me at treykind@hotmail.com I will be happy to send you some good info! being this pertains more towards travel info I am not sure if its jake to put details amongst the WSG Forum, otherwise this may turn into a travel forum : )

Joecaddy.....

BenDover57

03-01-03, 18:12

I just returned from a 3-day stay in A-Dam. I hadn’t been there in a couple of months, but I found that things hadn’t changed that much (I’ve been going there for the past 15-years). You can still get just about anything you want to pay for…a man, woman, young-boy or a sheep. There have been several recent posts regarding where to find a BBBJ and Anal… I still maintain that it’s available, but not from one of those gorgeous Dutch or German ladies with the long legs, big boobs, and pretty faces. You’ll have to lower your standards to get that kind of action.

Speaking of gorgeous Dutch / German ladies, I put them on my list of “lessons-never-learned”. But when the “little head” starts thinking for the “big head” they are very hard to resist, and the result is usually the same… unsatisfactory. I thought I had experienced all of their “tricks / ploys”, but on this trip I learned a new one. I engaged this beautiful Dutch girl in the alley leading to the Sex Bar (at the end of the 1-meter alley) and she insisted on holding-onto the top of the condom to make sure it didn’t come-off during sex. Well… with the width of her hand and the length of my dick, I could only get-it-in her a couple of inches (well-worn inches at that), and I needed to be balls-deep in that ***** to get my rocks-off. (I guess I’m just a slow learner).

On a lighter note, I mentally placed two pretty ladies occupying basement “houches” on Bloedstraat on my “short list” for future activity. One was Hispanic and the other was Asian, both met my standards of a pretty-face and a nice-figure… about an 8 on a scale of 10. During my surveillance, I witnessed one young Brit (less-than-sober) emerge from the Asian’s “houch” and brag to his buddies that he… “fuk’ed ‘er in the arse”. His buddies burst into laughter and informed him that he had just screwed a guy !! I felt sorry for the poor bastard, because this “she-male” could totally pass for a woman. I almost made the same mistake. Word-on-the-street was that the Hispanic was also a “she-male”. Guys… another source of Anal… if you don’t mind a “hairy-hang-down” (smile).

All-in-all, I think the Thai Chicks are still the best value in the RLD. Cheers, and keep your powder dry.

HectorG

03-03-03, 19:50

Hey guys. I'm writing to you from an Internet cafe in Amsterdam and wanted to let you in on the latest scam. I walked around for about 4 hours before finally settling on a gorgeous petite brunette. Her name was Denise from Albania. She is in the same row as Angie from Poland (who is still there. I saw her today and wanted to partake, but I went to lunch and when I came back she was gone). Anyway, Denise said $50 for F and no top. But she lied. As soon as I was nekkid, she changed the rules and said it would be $25 more and for 30 full minutes. That seemed reasonable for 30 minutes. But not more than 2 minutes into the "session," she kept badgering 'are you finished, are you finished?". I got so frustrated I wasnt able to "finish". I'm out 75 clams for nothing. Hoping for better luck tonight. Im going to follow the advise on this board and try the asian girls now.
bob

HectorG

03-03-03, 19:51

Seahorse

03-04-03, 09:14

I just want to confirm Bendover's statement: Thai girls are the best and there should be streets filled with them, 90 % they give you a GFE so try to go there for at least 30 minutes and you'll find heaven on earth (if you're into Thais that is)

As for the '1-meter alley' and surroundings I would advice anyone: only go there to watch the girls behind the windows but dont go inside, for you'll come out unsatisfied, those girls are only interested in your 50 bucks and their 2nd goal is to get you out of their kamer asap. And this goes for a lot of them pretty youngsters out there.

Yea, the tranvestites lol... Most of them Asian, They're at the far end of the main RLD street . If you are walking on the right side (a bit behind the penis fountain, cross the bridge on your left side, then walk back and turn first street to the right). Many guys I suppose go in, not knowing they're dealing with a transformed male. I made the mistake when I was a newbie in the RLD and I even didnt have a clue I was fucking him in the ass (my god, still now I want to believe that WAS a woman, but I'ld be kidding myself - so lets forget abt it)... So be carefull, if u pay more attention to their face instead of to the rest of their body, u might notice what ur dealing with there.
So again, try to find your luck with a gorgeous Thai girl (when prostitution still was officially illegal in Holland - allthough tolerated, there were a lot more Thai in the main RLD, still not sufficient for my taste, but nowadays there are only 5 or 6 left :(, from which I liked Da the best (she even showed me photo's and stuff of her time back in Thailand and whispered stories in my ear - and that was AFTER the 30 minutes I payed for, still laying down on the bed with her divine body wrapped around mine. O god, I could keep laying there forever, maybe that's why I want to give my best shot at going for a vacation to Thailand or Vietnam this year). If they like you, they will also give you an initial BBBJ and allow french kissing and let you lick them everywhere.
If you dont mind old age, go to the Nieuwstaat and surroundings to look for an experienced lady (preferably not hispanic)... They take it slow, which u wont find with the teenies) and they really are engaged while they're doing u.
Maybe you'll think I'm wrong and ignore my tips. Hey, do I care? After all, its your money ! ;)

Good luck and happy hunting !
Seahorse

Sabio

03-04-03, 11:02

Are the fast home test kits for HIV available over the counter in Amsterdam? There is interest in these kits (such as OraQuick) as a method for prescreening providers
instead of (or in addition to) using condoms.

The topic is currently being discussed in the safe sex section (under special interests).

BenDover57

03-05-03, 03:01

Seahorse:

You and I are on the same page. Sounds like you have also spent a lot of time in the RLD. Hopefully, if business declines for the beautiful European women... they will lower their prices back down to the "gilder" days (pre-Euro).

AMPlovr

03-05-03, 05:20

Will be visiting for the first time in years. Would like to see some Thai girls, but need to avoid the strange ones at all costs. Are the nicer ones hanging out at particular places or behind windows in certain areas. Last time there, the ladies in the windows in the RLD seemed to be of declining quality. Asian girls, however always seem to look good to me. Well, maybe some young French girl would do. What is the going rate for these lovlies is U.S.$$? Thanks!!

P.S. British Airways has great deals right now.

Seahorse

03-05-03, 09:37

Ouch Bigbob, seems you really lost 75 bucks there. Plus a sock ! And since the other one is no use anymore, a pair of socks... Allthough mostly not this low, beware guys: when you encounter Young, Pretty and Caucasian, watch the virtual warning shield and think twice b4 you go in. I'm curious to hear more abt your adventure with the Asians Bigbob.

BBBJ

03-09-03, 20:45

Hi guys,

Thank you for your input on BBBJ services in the Adam RLD.

Seems to me like I'm not even going to try Adam anymore.

I've been checking out the German FKK forums and to my pleasant surprise, in most of these clubs BBBJ is a standard service. Wooohooo!!! :)

So if any of you guys are hungry for some great BBBJ action, head over to that forum and check out the postings. My research tells me that FKK Oase and Atlantis are the top clubs.

Prices are more expensive than the Adam RLD, but as in value for money, the german FKK clubs seem to win hands down.

Happy hunting!

BBBJ

minx2001

03-11-03, 19:13

Hi there!

I am heading to Kasteelwaterloo on 26th March and onto Showboat on 27th.

Does anyone know the nearest train station to Showboat.

Thanks in advance

Bulai69

03-18-03, 17:20

Anyone any experience of action in Leiden ? Escorts or Massage parlours ?

Archer

03-29-03, 16:25

Amsterdam advice required!

Some time ago I visited A'dam and had a fantastic experience with Anna - the gloriously enhanced Polish girl in La Vie en Rose Kamers.

Anyway, next week I have to make my way down to Portugal, and would dearly love to go (quite a bit) out of my way to repeat the experience with this lovely girl. I will not arrive in A'dam until about 5-6 p.m, and at the time of my last visit, I think Anna was working about 12-5.

I'm sorta pushed for time, so would like to know if anyone has seen her recently or has any idea of her hours. I really only want to go there to see her (yep it was that good!)

Thanks, Archer

Archer

03-29-03, 16:48

A bit of help required please!

Will be travelling to Portugal next week and am considering a massive detour to visit Amsterdam, purely to revisit Anna, the gloriously enhanced Polish girl, working out of La Vie en Rose kamers.

I will purely be going there to visit her, so wondered if anyone had seen her recently or knows of her hours???

I had a fantastic time with her earlier in the year, and would love to repeat this.

Regards, Archer

SFXTraveller

03-30-03, 14:43

Just got back from the DAM,

First night there I thought I'd spend some money and get an escort to the hotel. Tried 'Amsterdam Call Girls', .... never again!

They sent a Brazillian by the name of Alisicia, looks were about 4 out of ten. Got suckered with bait and switch over the phone when I rang. But she was there and I needed to unload. We started off, but her mobile kept ringing and she would talk on it and make other calls (Rude b***h), She said I could DATY, but got down there and the smell ... well I just stopped it there. Damn I had to have a few drinks of Jack to get over that one. They have other girls I read reviews on which was better, but do not ever hire this Bia***h.

Expensive 190 Euros for the first hour and then 150 thereafter. not worth it, s*** she even had a half bottle of champagne from my minibar. So two hours of nothin.

Friday, took a stroll down the RLD, not bad for 2pm, quite a few lookers in the windows, small side streets next to SexyLand. I was definitely looking to unload now, especially after the night before. Found a lovely young dutch, 50 Euros for 15mins. It was rushed to say the least, another come on "Finish, finish".

Walked down to 'Smokey', chilled out had a beer and a 'zero' preroll. Contemplated finding another window and negotiating better this time, but I thought screw this, this trip is not working out. From the reviews I read, I would have to be looking for certain named girls, and that was not appealing right now.

Set off to internet shop down Rembrandtsplein. Found another site with some reviews of privehus (Private house, brothel), saw a local one within walking distance of my hotel. Named 'Park 118', got there about 7pm that night. Its a brothel, the madam lets you into the waiting room, they only had three girls that night. They each come in and introduce themselves, then the madam comes back and you choose. And only one of them scored 6.5 (Dutch blonde). She took me upto a room with a shower, (They have Jacuzzi rooms but its extra and by now the thought of another "finish finish" was not up for it). BUT this girl (Name was Angel) what a turn around, nice tits, a bit of a big ass, but very willing, allowed DATY, fingering and for extra 25 Euros kissing lips and tongue. No BBBJ though.

Nearly full on GFE, now that was worth the extra two hours I stayed there. The cost is (for room with a shower) 75 Euros an hour (+ another 25 if you want kissing, but I think thats only negotiable depending on the girl, and if your breath smells like a coffee shop then maybe not).

Saturday round midday setout to go to Alkmarr (North of Amsterdam) reading reviews that its cheaper there for the windows and the girls perform better. Got to the train station, but would have had to wait 1 hour for next train. So got in a cab and went to another privehus named 'Vienna Massage'.

Now this place was classier, very nice rooms. The madam let me in, (They are careful that whilst going in and out, you never see another one of their clients). The girl line up was made of 5, 3 black and two dutch. The madam explains right at the beginning "You don't like what you see, you can go, no problem."

One of the first black girls was an easy 8, but thank god I waited for the 1st Dutch girl, damn she was so fine (She scored 10+ on my scale). Her name begins with M ??? , she works as a teacher normally.

This girl was only 22, she had the firmest and nicest body I saw since getting into Adam. Very willing, no kissing or BBBJ, but everything else (DATY, fingering) was standard included in the starting price of 130 Euros for the first 45 mins (Then after that its 30 Euors for each extra 15 mins, You pay when you leave). Spent 2.5 hours with her.

I think in comparison to the windows, I'm gonna stick to the private houses next time I'm in the DAM. Its less grief and firstly for the money spent its well worth it, and secondly they don't negotiate about getting naked, fingering or DATY....its standard in the price.

If anyone else knows of any other good private houses, let me know. I'm back there next month and would like to try them out. Or if you have been to Alkmarr and can recommend (please stick down looks, name and roughly the booth number or street) a girl at a window.

Btw has anyone ever used the agency Societe Anonyme? They are expensive, but I have read some good reviews on another site about the girls they send. But not sure if its BS.

Thanks in advance.

Jon Jones

04-05-03, 23:40

Just returned from Amsterdam last week.

Since previous postings here were helpful to me, I’ll try to pass along some tips for first time visitors.

In addition to reading the prior postings here, I recommend you visit the following websites:

http://www.rld-info.com/

http://www.ignatzmice.com/Adam/

Tours of the RLD are available every night for ten or fifteen Euro. (About two hours beginning around 6PM.) Probably a good investment for the first-time visitor. You can book them at the Tourist Office outside of the Central Station.

I stayed at the Victoria Hotel across from Central Station. The hotel itself was OK but not great. However, the location is hard to beat. There are a number of small lower cost hotels on the same block. The Victoria is about a five to ten minute walk to the RLD.

On the tour I was given some interesting information about the “business.” Windows are available to rent to working girls for eight-hour shifts. Prices vary depending on location and time but most girls pay around 100 to 150 euros per shift. For this they get the use of the room plus security.

An unmarked “rental agency” is located in a small convenience store near the Old Church. You can see the closed circuit TV security monitors behind the counters. (So if your wife or girlfriend needs to make a few extra dollars……)

The girls are self-employed with no pimps. There is no licensing or health checks. Since they are self-employed there is no one to complain to if the service is poor. The problem as I see it is that most of the customers are tourists, so there is no incentive to provide the service promised. I had some good experiences but more unsatisfactory. It’s difficult to comment here on a particular girl since tomorrow they might be in a different location with a different name.

I had consistently poor service from the Eastern European girls. (Maybe something to do with the poor work ethic of the Communist block countries?) One girl even commented on how evil President Bush is while she had my dick in her hand! Not what I want to hear during my 15 minutes of bliss.

There is a lot of anti-American feeling at the present time. However, unless you’re wearing an American flag, this shouldn’t be a problem for the average visitor.

I prefer a good massage to 15 minutes of sex so I will comment on the two massage establishments I visited.

Chiang-Mai

This is a massage only – no sex - establishment. They tell you this upfront. Hand jobs are available but extra. The basic one-hour massage is 60 Euro. The extra’s are negotiated with the girl. I was disappointed in this policy. I understand why this is necessary when the extras are illegal. But there is no excuse here. I like to have the compensation taken care of before the service begins. The end result was an extra 50 for the HJ and 50 if I wanted to touch her pussy. I passed on the pussy.

I visited twice. One the first visit the massage was great and the HJ was just OK. It was the opposite on the second visit.

I had a choice of 5 to 6 girls. The rooms are kept very hot and bare. Dirty white walls with no pictures. The stairs are very small and steep. (Mountain climbing experience might help in getting to the third floor rooms!)

I summary, a good experience but I expected better in Amsterdam.

Love Club 21

This “Club” is located only one street away from Chiang Mai. I say “Club” because there really is not a bar or reception area -only a small room just inside the entrance. It offers full service in addition to massage.

Each time I visited there were only 3 girls working. All were young Thai girls.

The massage with hand relief was 90 euro for one hour. (125 euro for one hour, full service.) I tried the sensual massage, not full service. Very impressed with the service. On my last visit, without my asking, “May” slid her finger up my ass and massaged my prostate. This was a first time experience for me and a good way to end the trip.

Both these businesses are located on side streets (alleys) near Casa Rossa.

Casa Rossa, for someone who’s never seen a complete sex show, is probably worth a visit just to say you’ve seen it. (Remember the Havana show in “The Godfather”?)

Anyway, I hope this has been helpful and thanks to those who have posted earlier tips.

04-08-03, 09:42

Jon Jones,
You should have went to a German FKK Club. They are cheaper and you get Girl Friend Experiences in them.

I am here in A-Dam for two nights then off to Germany and Spain.

Joecaddy

04-09-03, 06:30

Another great time had in Amsterdam and wanted to share some experiences. Friday after a long flight I wasted no time in getting out and tearing the town up. Met up with a Brazilian girl in Singel, for 35 Euro this babe took her time with me, did not hear a word of hurry up and she totally stripped down nude, while I was getting a great BJ she opened up and relaxed after I rubbed her clit. Finished up with the balls deep and a big grin. After a meal and refreshing the buzz I thought I would try a swing club to see if anything could be scored there.

Friday night went to the Paradise Club just outside of A’Dam and in general it was not bad, I personally did not score but did see some babe getting grinded in a threesome and action could be found. However my personal take on the whole deal is if you do not speak Dutch, chances are less promising. It was only 50 Euro to get in, place had a dry sauna, steam room, pool, showers and many private rooms as well as open places for romping. The women there were attractive and the two young Dutch girls who were there had a swarm of guys trying to get some, the place was still alive when I left at 1:00AM, I headed right back to the RLD!

After walking around a bit I settled down and took up a blonde cutie in the Singel area, the Kamer is literally by Herengracht. The girls there seem more relaxed, maybe due to less traffic they realize that the odds are not in their favor and appreciate the business. In the Singel area I have found that the typical rates are 35 Euro in the day and at night 50 Euro, depending on how beautiful the girl is she may still command 50.

Saturday was another party, this one girl caught my eye who was from Venezuela, huge breasts and a nice shape, not quite slim but enough to round off everything nicely. She totally played with her breasts and was proud to rub them all over me, the topper was when she looked up at me while giving a great BJ, it was even better with her on top of me and feeling her grind. Another 35 Euro deal…..

Saturday night, I was walking around looking at the goods again in my stoned stupor and did not see anything that interested me, maybe because I was pleased with my experience earlier or wanting to ration out my pleasure, nevertheless I walked and checked out the scene. While just standing on Spuistraat I noticed a nice looking girl walking alone and I smiled at her, she smiled back and I still stood there. She stopped not far away and we made eye contact a few times, I assumed she was waiting for someone so I walked up and made conversation, after my second sentence asking her is she alone here? She asked me if I want to party, I said absolutely and we went to her hotel. Street action and not bad!!!

I guess these girls come from Bulgaria, four of them from what she said and all working. FYI they are staying at the Hotel Jimmy, the Hotel Jimmy is by the Crown Plaza on Nieuwezijds Voorburgwal. No scams with the girls, very friendly and no pressure, she got totally nude and satisfaction is certain. The rooms are not so great but for the limited time acceptable. This was a 50 Euro deal but worth every cent.

Sunday, it was an Italian babe who caught my eye and capped off my adventure, very nice and totally friendly, after our negotiation of 35 Euro I realized I had only 20’s, she had no change and apologized to me and said “ok we will spend extra time for the money and I am sorry” wow! This girl was apologizing to me and totally being sincere. After seeing her nude it was good that I had extra time.

It was a blast and I can hardly wait to return again. Amsterdam, how sweet it is.

Joecaddy…..

04-09-03, 09:43

I flew in yesterday morning, took a quick nap, and went off to the various RLDs in A-Dam at 6pm. My first chick was a Dutch blonde about 20 yrs old. She was working in the RLD that is about one mile from the main one. She was typical for A-Dam. I then had one at the main RLD across the canal and over a couple streets from Central Station. She looked Latin, but was actually from Morocco. Her name was Yasminna. She was better than my first one, but pissed me off when she wanted another 20 Euros for doggie style.

I went to a coffeeshop and then decided to check out the RLD in Haarlem. This one is about 1/10 the size of the main one, but the chicks want 75 Euro for 30 minutes (in lieu of the 100 Euro in the main RLD). I found a girl from Bulgaria who was 20 yrs old and had a very tight body. She was the best so far. She was definately worth it.

It was now 12:30 am everything was starting to close! I couldn't believe it. Amsterdam closing? Well, I took the last tram to my hotel and decided to check out the local scene. Well, there was none. I went to a coffeeshop and ate at a Donar place before crashing for the night.

Today I am going to check out the scene in Alkmaar (a town just 25 miles north of A-Dam).

BigDude

04-09-03, 18:57

Hi there

Just thought I'd give you my site URL which my pictures from Amsterdam.

www.bigdude6.freehomepage.com

thanks
bigdude

04-12-03, 16:38

Well, I went to Alkmaar on the 10th and had a Bulgarian girl who was ok, but nothing to write home about. I then decided to hit the main RLD in Amsterdam where I did a young Dutch blonde babe who was totally lacking personality. My last girl was a hottie from Morocco. She long black hair and was really beautiful, but was as mechanical as a typical RLD experience. I will be in Germany for the from 11-12 April hitting FKK clubs.

HectorG

04-13-03, 19:48

Well just came back from Amsterdam and I finally had a GREAT experience with an Italian babe named Sara (rhymes with Zara, maybe it was Zara. She has a thick accent). If you are facing the Banana Bar, she's in the kamer directly to the bottom left. She works nights. She has a schoolgirl quality, very cute (7-7.5), early 20s, petite, glasses, long black hair, tiny A-cup boobs. I got F&S and GFE for 50 Euros. She said 15 minutes but I spent at least 30 minutes with her. We had a fun conversation aftwarward about music and her travels. She took her time and was REALLY into it, and didn't just lay there like a dead fish like most of the blonde Dutch women do.

Also, she offers 3-somes with the girl in the next kamer, who is also cute and seems to be the most-dressed of any window girls (always wearing jeans and long-sleeve shirts). I was so into Sara that I forgot to ask about the price for that 3some option. Maybe next trip.

BigDude

04-13-03, 22:19

Does anyone know is Anna is still working there?

Iseeu

04-14-03, 23:14

Hey JT my man, where've you been (good 2 know you're safe & sound)- we keep missing each other. I was in Dam the previous week 4 2 nights, but only one free for hobbying. Went looking for Thai treasures. Found one in the Singel area (that's the RLD near Herrengracht about a mile from the larger one), who was pretty, pert breasts, friendly but nothing to write home about in the sack.
Went to main RLD and went for an Asia twosome for 80 Euro- turns out they were Vietnamese and not Thai. Quite a show - but I guess we're spoiled by the GFE experiences in German FKK's - I get much more of a feeling of being timed in the RLD.
Had some great smokes though :-)

Was also in DE twice more - will post there.

dancer1

04-20-03, 05:02

In response to Big Dude and his mention of a web page with pics of Amsterdam. I notice that another board. namely ignatzmice.com, has not responded very favorably to some comments you posted there re: rating of and posting of pics of the gals you have bopped.

IMHO....there should be no pics. Enjoy the hobby, treat the gals with respect.

dancer1

BigDude

04-21-03, 20:35

To be honest I don't know you wasted the time posting that stupid remark of your. Theres no difference, and to be honest you exploit them just as much as myself. Don' kid yourself, I've done nothing wrong, and it's obvious how much you objected to my personal homepage with the RLD pics, especially as you had a look?

04-24-03, 21:08

Iseeu,
I also went to that other RLD. It is too bad we weren't able to hang. I also enjoyed some coffeeshops.

Dancer and BigDude,
I agree that we should treat girls with respect, but also believe that Pics are necessary too. Everyone enjoys pics and if they aren't harming anyone, why not?

My last night in Europe: Spent in A-Dam: On 22 April 2003.

Well, I started my evening with some fine Dutch "tobacco" at my favorite coffeeshop. I then looked around the main RLD and saw my Spanish Sweetheart. She is 22 yrs old and is a true babe. She even has a rare trait for the Amsterdam scente; a PERSONALITY! Yes, a PERSONALITY! I spent at least 30 minutes with her and she only charged me 50 Euro.

My next and last piece of ass for this trip was with a very exotic looking girl who was raised in Holland. She has long black hair, olive skin, and a face that could grace the covers of magazines. It was too bad her personality and attitude didn't match her looks. She was the A-typical Amsterdam mechanical sex, that everyone expects here.

This concludes my Tour de Puss for Spring 2003. I am off to Michigan.

JT

Corkgila

04-25-03, 08:30

Dear posters,

I'll b visiting Amsterdam next week for a day.

Interested to learn of any freelance or pickups for room service in hotel.
Any pickup joints/ outlets that you would recommend?

Please reply to this posting or send them to corkgila@yahoo.com

Thanks a million! Keep up the good posting and reports, i hope to find some Good Time in AMS!

signing out, CG

Lars Berg

04-25-03, 19:51

The RDL in Amsterdam is not even close to the sex scene in Barcelona and Madrid. In Amsterdam the girls have a business attitude, it is all about money.

The attitude in Spain is more passion and good service.

There are several good brothels in Amsterdam, but pricy.

Sincerely
Lars

FreakWincy

04-25-03, 20:30

Does anyone know if the girls in La Vie En Rose offer extras?

Lars Berg

04-26-03, 23:28

Originally posted by freakwincy
Does anyone know if the girls in La Vie En Rose offer extras? They offer what you like!

Lars

Joecaddy

04-27-03, 06:07

Originally posted by Lars Berg
The RDL in Amsterdam is not even close to the sex scene in Barcelona and Madrid. In Amsterdam the girls have a business attitude, it is all about money.

The attitude in Spain is more passion and good service.

There are several good brothels in Amsterdam, but pricy.

Sincerely
Lars

Lars,

I find this comment very interesting, in a way kind of like comparing apples to apples : )

No matter where in the world it would be a safe bet to say out of 100 women, 99 are probably doing this because they either have to or need to. Its always about money bro, otherwise we would all be getting freebies from everyone : )

Joecaddy…..

Lars Berg

04-27-03, 13:16

Originally posted by Joecaddy
Lars,

I find this comment very interesting, in a way kind of like comparing apples to apples : )

No matter where in the world it would be a safe bet to say out of 100 women, 99 are probably doing this because they either have to or need to. Its always about money bro, otherwise we would all be getting freebies from everyone : )

Joecaddy….. Of course they are doing it for the money, but they do a better job in Spain, usually. Everything is just an act, most guys understand that.

Lars

William Hauger

04-27-03, 13:26

I have been to Amsterdam several times but it is more expensive buying girls after the introduction of EUR.

It is not cheap in Amsterdam anymore, and the girls are not that passionate compared to girls in for instance Spain.

Latino girls and girls from southern europe is a often a more fun.
Can t go wrong with a brunette.

Psychonaut

04-28-03, 19:00

I'm now in Amsterdam for a few days, and here is a short report about two clubs I have been in.

SOCIETE ANONYME
If you want to have a nice moment with beautiful girls for 190 euros, this is the place. The atmosphere is very welcoming, and you can relax in the bar while watching the girls. There is no entrance fee, and absolutely no hassle from the girls about champagne or other drinks.
The rooms are quite nice (big bed, jacuzzi, TV with porn, ...) and there are about 6-10 girls ranging from 5 to 8 (you won't find drop dead gorgeous girls).
I have been there twice : first time 190 euros for one girl one hour (very cute russian girl, but she goes back to london in two days). The second time was business entertainment so I was with 7 customers and we spent all night there for 2300 euros (7 girls + lots of drink and champagne). We had a very nice party time there, I highly recommand this place for such business "motivation" cause it's affordable.

YAB YUM
Ok, now we are not dealing with the same level of clubs. Yab Yum is very classy, and extremely expensive. Never go there if you don't have 1000 euros in your pocket. Girls are ranging from 7 to 10, some really beautifull and charming. The staff is very welcoming and professionnal, and the place is gorgeous. One girl is 300 euros per hour, and you are supposed to buy one bottle of champagne (400 to 1300 euros, depending of the "quality" of the girl).
I stayed about 5 hours with one very beautiful Dutch girl, and we drank about 4 bottle of champagne (600 euros per bottle). You can also order other goods, but I can't be more specific. At 4 AM the place was closing so I had to go. I was so wasted (and her too) that I could stayed for a long time :) At a time I asked for more girls to join us but unfortunately they were all busy.
Total price of 4000 euros for the party :) As I said, you have to be really rich if you want to go to Yab Yum and have fun without being stressed about money.
I know this can be like a nonsense to burn 4000 euros in a brothel, but hey welcome in the land of the rich guys :)
I have heard of people burning more than 30 000 euros in a single night here... This is total madness. So in fact I can't recommend this club unless you are filthy rich and crazy. If you are in this category then Yab Yum will provide you with the best time you'll ever have :)

William Hauger

04-28-03, 22:07

The taxi drivers in Amsterdam takes a fee of about 60 EUR if they take you to a brothel,sex club. This is a scam they have been doing for a few years. They demand the club owners to pay this fee, and this will be added to your bill. There are exceptions, the clubs with no entrance fee, like club Anonyme. But club Anonyme har increased their prices considerably. If taking a taxi, leave it a few hundred yards from the club.

William

Freeler

04-29-03, 12:34

Psychonaut,

'unless you are filthy rich and crazy.'

Or w:(rk with the right company:D!

Thaipan

04-30-03, 13:52

Originally posted by iseeu
Hey JT my man, where've you been (good 2 know you're safe & sound)- we keep missing each other. I was in Dam the previous week 4 2 nights, but only one free for hobbying. Went looking for Thai treasures. Found one in the Singel area (that's the RLD near Herrengracht about a mile from the larger one), who was pretty, pert breasts, friendly but nothing to write home about in the sack.
Went to main RLD and went for an Asia twosome for 80 Euro- turns out they were Vietnamese and not Thai. Quite a show - but I guess we're spoiled by the GFE experiences in German FKK's - I get much more of a feeling of being timed in the RLD.
Had some great smokes though :-)

Was also in DE twice more - will post there.

I'm going to Sin City Amsterdam shortly for 3 nights and would be interested in knowing where you got the 2 Vietnamese girls for your 3 some at 80 Eoros, sounds like a good deal! What street was it and were the girls both in the same window or did you ask one to get another to join you?

Thaipan

Thaipan

04-30-03, 14:08

Originally posted by Joecaddy

Saturday night, I was walking around looking at the goods again in my stoned stupor and did not see anything that interested me, maybe because I was pleased with my experience earlier or wanting to ration out my pleasure, nevertheless I walked and checked out the scene. While just standing on Spuistraat I noticed a nice looking girl walking alone and I smiled at her, she smiled back and I still stood there. She stopped not far away and we made eye contact a few times, I assumed she was waiting for someone so I walked up and made conversation, after my second sentence asking her is she alone here? She asked me if I want to party, I said absolutely and we went to her hotel. Street action and not bad!!!

I guess these girls come from Bulgaria, four of them from what she said and all working. FYI they are staying at the Hotel Jimmy, the Hotel Jimmy is by the Crown Plaza on Nieuwezijds Voorburgwal. No scams with the girls, very friendly and no pressure, she got totally nude and satisfaction is certain. The rooms are not so great but for the limited time acceptable. This was a 50 Euro deal but worth every cent.

Joecaddy…..

Hi Joe, I'm going to be staying at the Inntel on Nieuwezijds Kolk, which is not far from the Crowne Plaza and Spui Straat. I'm interested to know more about the girls you picked up in the street, can you be a bit more specific than "Spui Straat" as you might know it is a hell of a long street!!! :-)

Thaipan

Thaipan

04-30-03, 14:11

Does anyone know if there are any Thai or Oriental girls working in the small Singel RLD, if so what do the charge as I have heard that the charge differs from day to night?

I am also aware that there seem to be an increasing number of Thai Katoey / ladyboys in the main RLD, is this still confined to Brandesteeg, where the Thai Massage place is? Don't want to make an embarassing mistake in the semi dark! eeekkk!

Thaipan

Joecaddy

04-30-03, 14:40

Originally posted by Thaipan
Hi Joe, I'm going to be staying at the Inntel on Nieuwezijds Kolk, which is not far from the Crowne Plaza and Spui Straat. I'm interested to know more about the girls you picked up in the street, can you be a bit more specific than "Spui Straat" as you might know it is a hell of a long street!!! :-)

Thaipan

No worries bro,

You are staying literally where they were hanging out, there’s a cross street called Raadhuisstraat which borders the Single RLD. If you hang out there along the main street chances are you might see them. It was not obvious that they were working the street as they not aggressive, just stand in one spot and relax for a bit here and there between your "shopping" : ).

Thai girls? They are in Single however not so much as the main RLD. Prices can fluctuate between 35 - 50 Euro depending on who and what time of day. I found many day workers charging 35 in Single unless they were a perfect 10, then it was the standard 50 Euro. The Katoey's, If you have a good eye they stand out and yes what a buzz kill it would be to score with one of them, enough to shrivel a grin off a goat : )

Have a great time, I personally can't wait to return in August.

Joecaddy.....

Thaipan

04-30-03, 16:03

Originally posted by Joecaddy
No worries bro,

You are staying literally where they were hanging out, there’s a cross street called Raadhuisstraat which borders the Single RLD. If you hang out there along the main street chances are you might see them. It was not obvious that they were working the street as they not aggressive, just stand in one spot and relax for a bit here and there between your "shopping" : ).

Thai girls? They are in Single however not so much as the main RLD. Prices can fluctuate between 35 - 50 Euro depending on who and what time of day. I found many day workers charging 35 in Single unless they were a perfect 10, then it was the standard 50 Euro. The Katoey's, If you have a good eye they stand out and yes what a buzz kill it would be to score with one of them, enough to shrivel a grin off a goat : )

Have a great time, I personally can't wait to return in August.

Joecaddy.....

Hey Joe! Sounds like a good name for a Hendrix song! Ooops showing my age now! Thanks for the very quick info, I know where Raadhuisstraat is.

One good turn deserves another, if you like goodbeer try In De Wildeman in Nieuwezijds Kolk, it is probably one of the best beer bars in Amsterdam with 18 different draught beers and 250 different bottled beers! A real connoseurs choice! Well you do need a refreshment in between punts!

Thaipan

Psychonaut

05-01-03, 00:34

Another report from YAB YUM club.

I returned there with a business partner on a monday night. There were a lot of girls and we each picked two. We ordered a 800 euros bottle of Champagne (Crystal Roderer) and had a nice chat with the girls (3 dutch and 1 german). After 30 min of discussion we decided to go upstairs in the big suite (two beds and a huge jacuzzi).
We ordered some more champagne, caviar and salmon toasts (which were really good by the way) and then had fun in the jaccuzi. After half an hour of "play" we went to serious things and for my part I had really nice threesome with my two girls (one brunette and one blonde, both really cute and big breasts). The girls had some fun together and did really all I had in mind about a good nice threesome :)
We had to leave at about 4:30 AM cause the club was closing.

Total bill of 8 000 euros.

I booked the girls for the following night out (dinner + hotel) for 4 200 euros and had real fun.

Yab Yum is really nice for business cause this is really classy and high level of service. Too bad this is so expensive :)

My next adventures will be in Riga (Latvia) next week.

Bulai69

05-01-03, 19:50

Still waiting to hear if any one has any experiences in Leiden ?

Bungy Jim

05-02-03, 20:55

Can anybody tell me about their experience at the Love Boat in Zaandijk. It shoudl be a swinger club. Also good for a single man to visit ? Only to watch or also to participate ?

Iseeu

05-04-03, 01:40

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Thaipan
[i]I'm going to Sin City Amsterdam shortly for 3 nights and would be interested in knowing where you got the 2 Vietnamese girls for your 3 some at 80 Eoros, sounds like a good deal! What street was it and were the girls both in the same window or did you ask one to get another to join you?

Hi,
They were on main street- west side of the canal, 3 doors in same building.
i'll also be in Dam this week, but doesn't look like I'll be mongering...just smoking :-)
enjoy!

Iseeu

05-04-03, 01:45

quote:
Originally posted by Psychonaut
Yab Yum club
I returned there with a business partner on a monday night. There were a lot of girls and we each picked two.... We had to leave at about 4:30 AM cause the club was closing.
Total bill of 8 000 euros.
I booked the girls for the following night out (dinner + hotel) for 4 200 euros and had real fun.
Yab Yum is really nice for business cause this is really classy and high level of service. Too bad this is so expensive :)

WOW! ITA (In Total Awe) - I've heard of padding the expense account.... Do you work for Enron? :-) More importantly, how can I get a job doing what you're doing for the same company???
8K euro a night!Lifestyles of the Rich and Horny!

Maciorus

05-04-03, 23:09

iseeu:
I think Psychonaut's sotry is the "woke up the next day and the bed was all wet" kind of stuff. I mean for crying out loud 8k? No one in the right mind spends that kind of cash on hookers in 'Dam. But then what do i know?
porbably not much

diaman1123

05-05-03, 23:01

How far is the main RLD from Schipol? Is it best to take a train/taxi? Approx how much to cost?

appreciate your help
diamond

BenDover57

05-06-03, 02:11

I agree with Maciorus... I could fuck for a month in A-Dam for $8,000. I have never seen a pussy that fine, or that tight, that is worth that kind of money. I guess I just haven't lived... but believe me, I have fucked the most beautiful women in A-Dam for "A Damm" lot cheaper.

Hansum Man

05-06-03, 08:44

Can anyone give me any details os Katoey's / Thai / Oriental ladyboys working in the Amsterdam RLD?

Thanks

Thaipan

05-06-03, 11:57

Originally posted by iseeu
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Thaipan
[i]I'm going to Sin City Amsterdam shortly for 3 nights and would be interested in knowing where you got the 2 Vietnamese girls for your 3 some at 80 Eoros, sounds like a good deal! What street was it and were the girls both in the same window or did you ask one to get another to join you?

Hi,
They were on main street- west side of the canal, 3 doors in same building.
i'll also be in Dam this week, but doesn't look like I'll be mongering...just smoking :-)
enjoy!

Iseeu, thanks for the info but can you be a bit more specific as to street names or land marks?

Thanks and hope you enjoyed your self in Amsterdam though I cannot imagine going there and not mongering!!! :-)

Thaipan

Thaipan

05-06-03, 12:04

Originally posted by Maciorus
iseeu:
I think Psychonaut's sotry is the "woke up the next day and the bed was all wet" kind of stuff. I mean for crying out loud 8k? No one in the right mind spends that kind of cash on hookers in 'Dam. But then what do i know?
porbably not much

It is all fantasy stuff! No one in their right mind would spend either US Dollars 9035.00 or STG pounds 5624.00 on prostitutes in Amsterdam let alone any other city in the world! You could never hide it from the tax authorities for a start! Wake up and see the light of a realistic day Psychonaut! A couple od thousand Euro's and you might just have got away with it!

I have been going to Amsterdam for more years than I can remember and this is the biggest load of bullshit that I have heard yet!

Sorry guys but I have to tell it as I see it!

Thaipan

Sixtynine

05-06-03, 13:52

Looks like someone made an error and added an extra 0 as 800 would definitely have been more believable. 8000 would be a nice figure in a place like say, Japan or maybe even for one of the film stars in Phillipines or Korea.

It is just that among the Western European countries, Holland is by far the cheapest place to monger. Of course, you can pay what they they will take from you and if this was your price, then it looks like someone else did the screwing.

Freeler

05-06-03, 21:06

Hyster,

Yab Yum can easily be that expensive.
When you go there, drive up in a Bentley and bring your Platinum.

Or take a train down to TheHague and do a Dominican for €20, cash:)!

Psychonaut

05-07-03, 00:36

I confirm I did spend 8000 euros in Yab Yum in one night (4 girls + lots of Champagne and caviar). For the one who know the place, they'll know it's not that uncommon.

I don't say this was my best experience, and that it really worth 8KE. Yab Yum is "the place to be to impress your business partners". It's like a nice overpriced restaurant. You pay for the decorum and the "hype".

I know I can have a really better quality time in Latvia for 100 euros. But when this is about pampering an important business partner, you can't bring the guy in a cheap ***** house or send him in a window kamer :) You need to have a very luxurious place with huge suites and highly educated girls.

You pay a crazy price, but the guy sign the contract :)

(for the one who wonder what is my job, I'm in the internet adult business)

Tomorrow I go in Riga, high expectations for a very low price. I'll keep you informed in the Latvian forum :)

Thaipan

05-07-03, 17:34

Originally posted by Hansum Man
Can anyone give me any details os Katoey's / Thai / Oriental ladyboys working in the Amsterdam RLD?

Thanks

Not my thing but try around Barndsteeg area, there are a few suspect looking Thai "girls" there!

Happy hunting :-)

Thaipan

Sixtynine

05-07-03, 18:23

Well I guess it evens out then. You go to AMS and spend 8k Euros but then spend only 100 in Latvia or elsewhere. Thus you got to sample two countries wares for only 4k each?!? I guess it could be that expensive but for something that is so short lived, why not buy a car or take a month off and tour Thailand or Indonesia or even donate 2k to 4 charities instead? Must have been a hell of deal to foot such a bill.

Don´t get me wrong, I am all about quality over quantity, but as the heart is willing, the wallet is weak. I do not do the 20€ just as I do not do the 300€ ones either. I have found great girls for 100€ and do not see any reason to go way way and above that but that is just me. BTW, will be in Amsterdam in the next two weeks, I think I would like to party with you! :)

MeisterPat

05-07-03, 19:32

Originally posted by diaman1123
How far is the main RLD from Schipol? Is it best to take a train/taxi? Approx how much to cost?

appreciate your help
diamond 15 minutes by train (3 Euro) to Amsterdam Centrum. Walk out the main station doorway, and starting walking down the street that leads to/away from the station (Damrak). Stay on the left side and make the first left past the canal boat tours. You will see the 3 story Grasshopper in front of you. Walk past the Grasshopper, make a left and a quick right behind the Grasshopper and you'll start to see indications of it within a block or two. It will primarily be on your right near the Oude Kerk (Old Church). It's a 5 minute walk from Central Station.

Taxi's will take about 30 minutes and will run about 40-50 Euro.

Thaipan

05-08-03, 17:36

Originally posted by MeisterPat
15 minutes by train (3 Euro) to Amsterdam Centrum. Walk out the main station doorway, and starting walking down the street that leads to/away from the station (Damrak). Stay on the left side and make the first left past the canal boat tours. You will see the 3 story Grasshopper in front of you. Walk past the Grasshopper, make a left and a quick right behind the Grasshopper and you'll start to see indications of it within a block or two. It will primarily be on your right near the Oude Kerk (Old Church). It's a 5 minute walk from Central Station.

Taxi's will take about 30 minutes and will run about 40-50 Euro.

Excellent directions MeisterPat! I can follow them exactly and even smell what is coming out of Grasshopper!

Thaipan

Iseeu

05-09-03, 04:07

Just got back from dam and due to change of schedule I had time for a night of mongering ( after getting stoned the night before!)
Had been to Paradise about 2 years back and wanted to see if it's developed like the German party treff scene. big Disappointment!

The usually wonderful Paradise, was almost empty. 5-6 couples and about 10 single men. not very conducive for multiple action. Made friends with 2 of the couples, and had some fun with them.
I know that weekend nights are great there and was told that on thurs. nights they bring in some pros to help keep things moving.
Funny story - a guy and 2 women were walking around the place in their towels just sitting and watching like tourists. Turns out they were Irish tourists who wanted to go dancing in the Paradiso dance club. Shock of their lives, when they were given towels and told to strip when entering the dance club - but they were good sports and had a good laugh with us.

Iseeu

05-09-03, 04:13

psychonaut-
no need to be on the defensive. You're right Yab Yum is an ideal place to entertain business prospects and well worth the investment if they sign the bottom line. And you can write it off of Uncle Sam as biz expense.
Value for money, a f**k is a f**k, and if I can have fun in a clean environment with intelligent people , I'll look to invest the 8g's for my retirement or future viagra supply, and find a more "economical" solution.

Hugh Grant

05-22-03, 02:44

Hey All, des anyone know where to buy Viagra in amsterdam, Thanks.

Freeler

05-24-03, 06:50

Hugh Grant,

Viagra is a prescription drug in Holland.
You have to visit a doctor for a prescription, with that prescription you go to a pharmacy('apotheker') who then supplies you with the real thing.
Any Viagra offered to you by anyone else can (and will?) be fake...

Getting your dick sucked in cars in Holland is legal only in so called 'Afwerkzones' (Finishworkzones):D

Maximus #2

05-24-03, 07:37

Hey guys,

Can anyone help me with info about the legal age for prostitution in Amsterdam? Also, is there any one particular area of Amsterdam where I can find 18-19 yr old streetwalkers?

Thanks in advance,

Aussie Max

EDITOR's NOTE: I took a few minutes to revise the capitalization and punctuation mistakes in this report. However, with everything else I have to do to maintain the forum, I don't really want to spend my time doing this every day, so I would very much appreciate it if everyone could refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. I don't expect everyone to be a great writer, but it's not difficult to use the CAPS key for names or to put a period at the end of sentences. Thanks!

jamesb

05-24-03, 12:59

hey guys, need some help ASAP as i am in amsterdam for the next 24 hours only. i'm interested in bj only in the RLD. What should it cost (main RLD, afternoon or night time)? Also, is condom required or recommended? I obviously don't want to catch anything. Finally, i want to be able to cum on the chic's face. is that allowed and how much extra will that cost me?

thanks.

Freeler

05-24-03, 14:30

Jamesb,

If you have certain demands, whether those demands mean extra service or less service, they will always cost you, unless you play it the smart way.
So, just ask for the price, not saying what you want!
Go from there.
Use a condom, don't even think about bbbj, it will only drive the price up. Don't ask to cum on the girls face, but see what happens and then decide if you can pull it off or not. Make the wrong choice and your cum will end up on the floor, leaving her pretty pissed off.... Not good!
Remember: A good bj requires a dedicated lady...
Count on anything from €30-50 for bj.

I will only say this once: Avoid African women like the plague!

For bj only, try the sw's behind Central Station... €10 should get you off.

StopMakingSense

05-27-03, 13:08

This might be a very naive question, but it's the first time I've visited Amsterdam. I'm going to be there in August, and my wife is coming with me. We're interested in the live sex shows, and want to know if women are welcome. We assume so, but naturally want to feel comfortable and secure about visiting. I gather that places offer audience participation too. Can anyone tell us how that works? We're reasonably broad minded and don't rule out the possibility of some participation of our own, but first we want to know what the whole scene is like.

Thanks.

MeisterPat

05-28-03, 23:40

zokko

05-29-03, 04:58

Originally posted by StopMakingSense
This might be a very naive question, but it's the first time I've visited Amsterdam. I'm going to be there in August, and my wife is coming with me. We're interested in the live sex shows, and want to know if women are welcome. We assume so, but naturally want to feel comfortable and secure about visiting. I gather that places offer audience participation too. Can anyone tell us how that works? We're reasonably broad minded and don't rule out the possibility of some participation of our own, but first we want to know what the whole scene is like.

Thanks.

There used to be quote a few decent sex shows in Amsterdam, last time I visited which was a couple of years ago there were only two actual shows and one (I forget the name) was rubbish. That leaves the Cassa Rosso, this has a LOT of fake entrances, so it looks like there are 8 odd shows, they are all actually fronts for the Cassa Rosso.

This is the real deal, there is a cycle of acts, mostly strippers but with at least on girl/girl act and one girl/boy fucking act. The girls are all pretty hot and the acts are continuous. When things get busy they get a bit short though so best go early in the evening or late, or just sit through two circuits.

I have not seen the type of audience participation you are probably thinking of. There are Honban shows in Japan where a member of the audience gets fucked but I have not heard of a place in amsterdam (or Europe for that matter) where that is a regular in a sex show. On the other hand there are plenty of swingers clubs.

zokko

05-29-03, 05:51

Thaipan

05-29-03, 10:22

Thaipan

05-29-03, 10:27

Originally posted by Thaipan
Iseeu, thanks for the info but can you be a bit more specific as to street names or land marks?

Thanks and hope you enjoyed your self in Amsterdam though I cannot imagine going there and not mongering!!! :-)

Thaipan

Hi iseeu, hope that you had a good time in Sin City, are you able to give me a bit more info on where to locate the Vietnamese girls you had the €80 3 some with. I'm very familiar with the RLD but don't think there is a street called Main Street in the whole of the Netherlands! :-)

Only 11 days and counting till I get there now!

Thaipan

Thaipan

05-29-03, 10:29

Due to business commitments I usually don't get to the RLD before evening but I may have an opportunity to go during the afternoon on this trip.

Question: What time do the kamers start to open up in the day time?

Thaipan

Thaipan

05-29-03, 10:30

Forgot to add - does anyone know what time Love Club 21 opens at and any current info on prices and quality of service / girls? Are they all still Thai, how many are there to choose from and what is the best time to go?

Thaipan

Jon Jones

05-29-03, 17:37

Regarding Club Love, you might want to refer to my post on April 5th.

If I recall, they opened around 11AM and closed around 11PM (later on weekends).

There were 3 girls available each time I visited. They were all in the 6-7 range but provided good service.

William Hauger

05-29-03, 23:15

Hello, I saw someone recommended the sw behind the central station, this is a high crime area and the sw are mostly drug addicts.

In fact sw is illegal in that area and the rld .

William

Iseeu

05-30-03, 03:26

Thaipan,
I don't remember what the street is called - it has a long dutch name - but it is the main street of the main RLD ("main" here means "primary" and is not the name of the street).
Couldn't monger on my last trip with business acquaintances for intensive time together, but we did find time for some coffee :-)

Stop Making,
I was at Casa Rosso with my wife - no problems at all. If you really want to participate together forget the RLD and go to Candy Club or Paradise. If I recall at the Casa rosso, they i ask for some audience participation, but not for the down and dirty.

BTW there are clubs in Europe in which the audience does participate i.e. Bagdad in barcelona...

Otter Trax

05-30-03, 03:52

I visited AMS this past April and previously in Sept 02. I am totally disappointed in what's being offerred for 50 euros in the main RDL. It's boiled down to a tourist spectacle.

The workers have overpriced their services. Unless it was the low season, which maybe it was, not many purchases were being made. This resulted in a lack of enthusiasm for most of the providers in the window. I m very reluctant to barter with a disinterested window girl as I have learned that in the past it's a mistake to choose one with a long face.

My last trip I tried to go where the locals frequent but it seemed the sex tourists have discovered and ruinedthose areas too and have ruined the opportunity for the 25 euro FS. My preference is not to frequent the Russian mafia controlled courtesians even tho they tend to be the most attractive, their attitude sucks. Nowadays, it makes more sense (cents) to venture out in the more normal Dutch turf like Den Haag, Utrecht canalboats, Arnhem, and Alkmaar for the more authentic and superior bang for the euro. I m wondering if other regulars to Holland are feeling De Wallen is losing its magic or my observations were based on seasonal variation.

Cheers and best wishes to all,
otter

Thaipan

05-31-03, 10:35

[QUOTE]Originally posted by iseeu
[i]Thaipan,
I don't remember what the street is called - it has a long dutch name - but it is the main street of the main RLD ("main" here means "primary" and is not the name of the street).
Couldn't monger on my last trip with business acquaintances for intensive time together, but we did find time for some coffee :-)

Thanks Iseeu, I'll be on the look out I think I know where you mean!

Thaipan

Thaipan

05-31-03, 10:37

Originally posted by William Hauger
Hello, I saw someone recommended the sw behind the central station, this is a high crime area and the sw are mostly drug addicts.

In fact sw is illegal in that area and the rld .

William

Hi William,

I'm a regular visitor to Amsterdam and you have me puzzled by your reference to "SW", what is it or am I just being thick? Either way, I'd like to know :-)

Thanks
Thaipan

Joecaddy

05-31-03, 18:32

originally posted by thaipan
hi william,

i'm a regular visitor to amsterdam and you have me puzzled by your reference to "sw", what is it or am i just being thick? either way, i'd like to know :-)

thanks
thaipan thaipan,

if i am on track, "sw" stands for "street walkers" and i have yet to see any behind cs. at singel i had personally experienced a "sw" however to date i have never seen one behind centraal station. the strip/area behind cs is no wider than a football field and the rear exit of cs directs you to the ferries. in my own personal opinion this area is dead, every time i went back looking, never seen anything except bikes, boats and the speeding cars.

joecaddy.....

Radiv78

06-01-03, 23:58

I'm going to Amstardam in about three weeks for my very first time... I have a ting for black women, but I hear all this negative things about the black womens in RLD.

Seriously... there have to be some black women in the RLD who would give me a great experience???
Anoyone... please....

Joecaddy

06-02-03, 06:45

Originally posted by Radiv78
I'm going to Amstardam in about three weeks for my very first time... I have a ting for black women, but I hear all this negative things about the black womens in RLD.

Seriously... there have to be some black women in the RLD who would give me a great experience???
Anoyone... please....

Radiv78,

You will have the pick of the litter, plenty for you to choose from and I am sure the prices will be fantastic. The reason many here bag on them is due to the way the look, act and I am sure perform, in comparison to the jewels that can be found for just a few more Euro. Just walking by I have found them totally obnoxious and pretty raunchy looking, would have nightmares if ever had to resort to one. They don't look so inviting and not pretty in my eyes "this is not to say I find all black women this way" just the ones working there. If that is your thing tear it up and enjoy. Try the Oude Kerksplein, "Old Church". You might find the majority all in one area. Good luck!

Joecaddy.....

Otter Trax

06-02-03, 07:18

Radiv,

You are obviously new and sound like a willing victim to be violated by the women surrounding the Oude Kerk. First dont expect them to make change for you. If they offer you a F & S, what they mean is they will take your 50 euro, do a little lick around the edges CBJ, up the price to continue, refuse to go all the way for a straight lay much less take off their top and get nude, intentionally frustrate the hell out of you because they arent going to eff you (remember they already have your money), finally chase you out of the kamer pummeling you all the way if you dont cough up every cent you have. If this sounds like fun for you, then you are gunning for it.

Have it your way.

Otter

Dmitri48

06-02-03, 11:06

Venue: Milau, Bos en Lommerweg 175hs, Amsterdam. Tel. 020-6824405
Girls: Tracy (20) and Naomi (23)
Cost: €100.-
Time: 60 mins.

My first trio and what a fantastic experience. Both girls were (coincidentally) from Sierra Leone. Tracy was very slim and facially beautiful, 1m 65cm and about 45kg. I suggested she should be a model and she replied that she had tried but was not tall enough! Her breasts were small and typically rather flattened. Naomi was fuller though still on the slim side, around 1m 70cm and 55 kg. She had full and firm breasts. They both spoke English and were very friendly. They really pampered me.

They decided to take it in turns rather than continuously swapping over. Naomi began with a mouth job while I caressed Tracy, sucked her breasts etc. This continued with Naomi on top. Eventually, she went into missionary with Tracy caressing my thighs. After around 20-25 mins, I had a great organism. After a quick wash, they gave my back a ten minute four-handed massage, complete with hot towel, whilst I recovered. Then it was Tracy sucking me with Naomi rubbing her breasts on my face. Then Tracy went into doggy position and I could feel Naomi’s hand rubbing the small of my back. They have worked together before and it shows. I then asked for a hand-job to finish off and received a most sensational experience – one rubbing the shaft while the other rubbed my balls, taking it in turns so they didn’t get tired. My second coming was as strong as you could wish and I was totally spent afterwards. We caressed another couple of minutes before the time was up. 58 glorious minutes of continuous activity with two beautiful young women. Surely this is how sex was meant to be.

PS Advance bookings are not possible (so was I in luck). The rate for one girl for one hour is just €60 at Milau. Very good value. The day I was there, there were 6 girls of which only one would put you off your dinner. The others were all very respectable. I’ll be back!!!

BenDover57

06-03-03, 02:15

Ravid,

If you have a taste for black ladies... there is a cute black lady in the alley next to the Old Sailor Bar. She is from South Africa, slender, and has a cute face. Service is very good for your 35 Euros. Good Luck.

BenDover57

06-03-03, 02:19

Leonardo,

I'm fairly familar with A-Dam... but, don't know where Milau, Bos en Lommerweg 175hs, Amsterdam is. Can you give some more detailed directions. Thanks... sounds like a great place to go !!!

Thaipan

06-03-03, 15:33

Dmitri48

06-04-03, 11:07

Dear JoeCaddy and bendover57,

If you can get hold of a map, Milau is very close to the crossing of the Bos and Lommerweg with the Admiral de Ruiterweg, two quite large thoroughfairs on the west side of the city.

By public transport, it's easiest to go to Amsterdam Sloterdijk from Centraal and then its a couple of stops on the No 15 bus.

Alternatively, the 12 and 14 trams stop at the crossing.

If you have a car, its only a couple of minutes from the A10 ring road, exit 105 (Bos en Lommer).

Also you can call 0900-9292 and tell them where you are, where you want to get to, and they will tell you how to do it.

I'm going back there this afternoon to try my luck on them both being free.

If you go, I'd be glad to hear your experience.

Good luck,

Leonardo

PS Naomi got a good write-up in a Dutch website (www.prostitutiegids.nl, though only in Dutch)

StopMakingSense

06-08-03, 07:11

Thanks for the info about live shows. Someone mentioned swingers' clubs in Amsterdam. Any information about them please? Still very interested in the idea of live performances, possibly involving my wife and me: it sounds like the swingers' scene might be what we're looking for.

Iseeu

06-10-03, 23:31

Stop,
Go to best website for sex info for Amsterdam: http://www.ignatzmice.com/Adam/framed.htm . Look there for listing on Parenclubs. I've been to Paradise and Candy Club - both recommended, but best on weekends or in Paradise's case on Thursday night as well.
Enjoy!

Dmitri48

06-16-03, 13:40

Dear Joecaddy,

By the way, within about 10 minutes walking distance (in total) of Milau are three other establishments.

Admiral de Ruiterweg 419, at the lower end of the market, just €50 for an hour. There were 8-9 women present, all the wrong age of thirty, last Wednesday. Still, there were a couple I could have gone with had I not been simply killing time while waiting for Tracy to finish with a client at Milau’s. A place like this is always worth checking out because (a) the women may be to your taste and (b) if not, there is always the off-chance that there will be a jewel amongst them.

Kwikie, Bos and Lommerweg 72 charge €70 for an hour. I went there next. There was one girl present, late twenties?, not bad but I decided not to stay. Just down the road at no. 96 is a private house without a name that looks as if it is part of the Zonne Studio (Sun studio, a legit. Sun-tanning centre). There were a couple of really nice young women there which I took to be in their early twenties. I decided to stay and enjoy Sarah, a twenty-six year old Moroccan, lovely body, sweet smiling face. It’s the priciest place in this block at €90/hour. Sarah didn’t really allow herself to be touched, said her breasts were sensitive (which I can imagine) but no kissing or licking her between the legs. Nonetheless her mouth job and screwing were very good and I left satisfied. I noticed afterwards that she has several good reviews on a Dutch site www.hookers.nl. Didn’t make it back to Milau or Tracy but that is a consequence of their no appointments policy.

In fact, the next day I went back to no. 96 to spend an hour with Natjah (pronounced Natia) who had also impressed me the day before with her youthful looks. Quite different from Sarah, a 26 year old Aruban, tongue-kissed the whole time and just about everything was allowable with her. Great personality as well.

There are just so many gorgeous women in the world…..

Jon Jones

06-19-03, 17:42

If you go to many of the Amstedam Web sites referenced in previous posts, you'll find hotel info.

From a location standpoint, the Victoria is excellent but it's expensive. There were many small hotels with rates half the price within a block of the Victoria.

WordUp

07-08-03, 03:32

AMSTERDAM THE MOST RECENT INFO:

IF YOU ARE HEADING TO THE "RED LIGHT DISTRICT" then here is what to do. If you are at the airport take the train at the airport to Amsterdam Central Train Station. Once there (alway ask people, most folks are nice and will give you very good info), head upstairs and you will look out and see The Victoria Hotel, and Thomas Dook Travel across the street. About a block to the left is the Red Light District"(RLD)". just across the canal. If you see a Red Light on a building, you are at "HOME BASE." LET THE FUN BEGIN.

All, of the SEX is 50 euro, with a few at 40. Mainly older women or girls in bad locations. You will see some of the MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMEN IN THE BUSINESS of SEX, FROM ALL OVER the WORLD. Black, White, Asian, Indian, South American, just everywhere !!!!

Most women speak very little English except to say, "Sucky/Fucky" 50 euro. They have a very strange thing .... a lot of women will give you head, but will not lick or suck your chest .... That is rather strange to ME !!!!

I did NOT go to the SEX Shows there, but there are plenty to go to. Make sure you convert to Euro before you start hunting, for if you use anything other than Euros it will cost you MORE. So convert at a place which gives you the BEST rate. You will have to look around. I normally use the Airport exchanges.

ANYWAY .... Look for what you want, but look around first. In the 7 hours I was there in RLD, I had five different women, and enjoyed every moment. I once had to wait for this thick Spainish girl name Chistina. She was down one of the alleys near the Old Sailor Bar. The one I really liked was a girl fro the Dominican Republic, that was just beautiful from Top to Bottom. She went out of her way for me. I even did her friend in the room next to hers (later that night). Both ladies are located, along the canal toward the middle of the district. I think near 67b. Each girl is located at a building number.

NOW IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW: Find out exactly when your 20 minutes time starts. Don't be fooled by the lack of communications, because you still hold the money. Your 20 should start as soon as you are in bed and totally naked. The DR women I was with got a phone call, while giving me head, and I got 10 extra minutes for a loss of a 2 minute call. Tell them to turn off the cell phone until you are finished.

BRING YOUR OWN CONDOMS AND LUBE. THEIR STUFF ...... RRRRREALLY SUCKS. it is of Poor Quality, and the condom are unlubed. Bring you own lubed condoms and some unlubed. Change once the sex starts to a lubed one. Most of the girls all "fake it", and are so use to the SEX, they don't always lube naturally. They just FAKE the Momoment and the motion, but some really, REALLY do FEEL IT. I had (3) that seem to really like the SEX, and the others I could tell were faking it. I was going to get my NUT ANYWAY, REGARDLESS. That make sex almost impossible, especially if you are of any size and width.

Stop and have a beer or a few drinks at the bars of your choice, and stop at the BABY Grill, it has some great food and the cooks are nice guys, and informative. They know what you are there for. They stay open all night. and the sandwiches are reasonable, and more Greek style.

You will lose you bearings because a few drinks, lot of SEX, and the excitiment you will forget which way you came in at. Just ask for directions, from any girl, or taxi, or store front.

BEWARE OF THE GUYS just hanging out. They want to sell you extacsy, coke, crack, or whatever. STAY AWAY FROM THEM and TOTALLY IGNORE THEM. They will get you arrested, in a money scam, or your funds stolen. Watch out for a lot of pickpockets to. ALOT OF THEM. HIDE YOU MAIN MONEY, AND SET OUT ONLY WHAT YOU WANT TO SPEND.

LASTLY: If the woman is NOT nice and kind to you .... REJECT HER ... Do Not spend your Money with ungrateful women, and with women who really don't want to do it. Also, so of the sexiest women are really men, so don't be afraid to ask. I so a few in the windows who were ugly men, and some that were sharp, but were men. SO ASK .... JUST ASK?

Holland Report

07-08-03, 17:37

I'm based in Den Haag/ The Hague, so check out my reports there. But just wanted to mention/recommend a really good suck-fuck experience I had on a day trip to Amsterdam. Carla is her name- out of Central Station, take a first right opposite Easyeverything internet, through the narrow streets past all the porn 'til you come to OZ voorburgwaal (the first canal). Take a right and then branch off into the small little prostitute alleyways. At the very back of those, there's sortof a dead end alley, a bit more modern than the rest, windows only on one side, brick wall on the other side. (ie you have to really want to go down that alley! :-) ) Halfway down on the right is 'Carla'. Really nice Italian woman who used to be an accountant. (Dark hair, wears fake secretaries glasses, even though she doesn't need them!) If you're nice to her, you'll get masses back- anal, face fucking, great blow job, the works. Definitely worth a visit.

For some REALLY hot action, though, I suggest you jump on a train to Den Haag Hollandspoor and check out the Polderdijkestraat and Geleenestraat. (See my postings in Den Haag forum.) Prostitution at it's best! :-)

Holland Report

07-13-03, 10:44

Just re-read my last post. I meant to write take a LEFT opposite 'Easyeverything' internet. Apart from that, directions all correct. Basically, head down to the first red light canal, branch right, into the back alleys, look for the dead end modern alley and halfway down on the right, Carla, really nice! :-)

I'm heading back to Amsterdam on business in the next couple of weeks, so I wondered if anyone has any tips/suggestions. I know it's kindof an impossible request, but I'm looking for a redhead who doesn't have a shaved pussie. Impossible request, I know. Also just young (over 18) nice Dutch blondes. Or just any good experiences with nice women you've had. Suggestions (and instructions how to get there) welcomed! :-)

BTW, apart from the RLD and around N.Z. Voorburgwaal, are there any other good red light areas in Amsterdam???

Thanks for your help!

Zarkoff

07-22-03, 14:39

Originally posted by Archer
A bit of help required please!

Will be travelling to Portugal next week and am considering a massive detour to visit Amsterdam, purely to revisit Anna, the gloriously enhanced Polish girl, working out of La Vie en Rose kamers.

I will purely be going there to visit her, so wondered if anyone had seen her recently or knows of her hours?

I had a fantastic time with her earlier in the year, and would love to repeat this.

Regards, Archer Just had a WONDERFUL visit with Anna. She is everything Archer's said she is and more! What a fabulous lady! I am so ready to go back and see her again. Directions posted by Archer are right on. Take care of this lady and she will take care of you! Highly recommend if you like the large breasted type.

Captain Fire

08-01-03, 18:10

Hi Gents,

A couple on here have asked about red haired pussy. I think I may have the jackpot for you. Her e mail is Isabelle4you@planet.nl. An absolute beautiful and classy lady. Big tits, fantastic body, anal is 4o eoros extra ans she really enjoys it. Overall, I would rate her a 9. Expensive, about 600 Euros for 3 hours, but she makes sure you have a great time. Treat her with respect as she is not a typical run of the mill hooker. She will play with toys with you, suck, fuck, any entry goes and no holds barred. I really recommend her. Lives in Amserfoort, about 40 min train ride from Schipol.

Enjoy gentlemen.

Jocko D

08-02-03, 01:06

Rockhunter,

I have only limited experience with Privehuis, but about 1 year ago went to Golden Lagoon, near the SW outskirts of Amsterdam. Although there were other more positive posts, I really was not thrilled. Here, you paid before you saw the girls (it was 150 euros for 2 girls), and then entered an open area with couches, with curtained beds off to the sides. There were only 3 girls that night. A younger black girl who was OK (6 or 7), an older dark skinned girl who was really quite fat, and a dutch looking girl who had short hair, deflated breasts, and a hearing aid. I spend 45 minutes with the black girl, which was OK but nothing special, then after another hour decided on the dutch girl - an experience that lead me to nearly give up the hobby for good. I think you can do better elsewhere, IMHO.

Jeff Sinclair

08-04-03, 23:07

Hi,

The Golden Lagoon is not a prive, it is a club, ie: It has a bar where you can sit around and drink before you chose a lady.

The only Private house in Amsterdam that I personally can recommend is Park 118 that is down near Albert Cuypt Straat Market and the pijp rld. Address is Sarphatipark 118, tel: 020-672-3022

Usual rates are about 75 euro for hour with shower during day and 105 with bath / spa

Night rates and Sundays are approx 25 euro more.

There are a few other houses that I know of including:

Overtoom 443, tel: 020-618-9110

And also a view in the Jordan area including:

Asmara
70 Willem De Zwijgerlaan, tel: 020-618-4069

And Milau on Bos en Lomberg (175) I think.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

Captain Fire

08-12-03, 10:22

Hi Gents,

Just wondering if anyone knows of some good class action close to Schipol Airport. I travel trough frequently and sometimes do not have time to scout around. Not looking for scrags but some good looking young enthustiasts. Might be a real market here as a lot of us pass through here pretty regularly

Cap

Doctor Grim

08-12-03, 20:27

Hi guys, do I need a VISA to enter the country if I will travel with an US passport? Thanks.

SeniorCitizen

08-12-03, 21:39

Originally posted by Doctor Grim
Hi guys, do I need a VISA to enter the country if I will travel with an US passport? Thanks.

No

Capt Fred

08-13-03, 18:21

Originally posted by Captain Fire
Hi Gents,

Just wondering if anyone knows of some good class action close to Schipol Airport. I travel trough frequently and sometimes do not have time to scout around. Not looking for scrags but some good looking young enthustiasts. Might be a real market here as a lot of us pass through here pretty regularly

Cap Here are 2 of the best Escorts Agencies that I have tried in Amsterdam, and they will come to your hotel room at the airport:

Bernadette
(020) 492-31-50
Bernadette-escort.com
2003 - €150 Hr.
You may want to ask for Stella (24, 5-7, brown hair)

Models
(020) 418-07-90
2003 - €150 Hr.
You may want to ask for Kim (19, 5-6, blond) or Katie (24, 5-6, black hair)

These prices are as of May 2003.

Both Agencies are real good. The Ladies I listed were the best! I tried about 3 girls from each agency.

FSM2000

Capt Fred

08-18-03, 15:31

Hi:

Can anyone give me price information about "Asmara" in Amsterdam?

Also, do you know if anal sex is possible at Asmara?

Thanks,

Jeff Sinclair

08-21-03, 00:44

I am not sure of the prices in Asmara but given the area and quality available I would say that the rates would be no more than 90 euro for the hour.

I have planned a visit there in a couple of weeks time and will report on my findings here.

I also plan to try some of the other prives in the Jordan area as well as return to some of my old haunts, Park 118 and Love Club 21 to name but 2.

I am also looking for an address of a mobile phone shop where I could get a pay as you go sim card for the dutch o2 network, using this sim means than you aren't screwed when someone phones you - its free for you to receive calls and also calls within The Netherlands are a lot cheaper than using roaming on your own contract sim/phone.

Thanks in advance.

Jeff

NY Jimmy

08-21-03, 03:19

This for Jeff who asked about the unlocked phone with a sim card in Amsterdam.

You can buy a telephone at the electronics shop at the airport (the cheapest is Sony-Erikson at 150-170 Euros) plus the sim card which is about 20 Euros (typically Vodafone).

It is true that you don't pay for received calls. You could also buy a new sim card for each European country you go to (each new Sim card gives you a local phone number). That will make all of your calls local and cheap. You could add minutes by buying typical cards or calling the operator.

Also, don't forget to change the language to English and ask the sales person to help since the menu (voice and text) will be in that country's language.

Capt Fred

08-21-03, 17:51

Thanks Jeff,

Please keep me posted, and make sure you inquire about anal sex at Asmara.

NY Jimmy

08-24-03, 00:00

You're welcome Jeff,

You can buy sim cards from any Vodafone shop in the city. You could do this in any major European city. It usually costs between 20-25 Euros (some places will include 5 Euros credit like Amsterdam and in some countries like Germany they will include 25 Euros credit).

You will need an ID to buy any sim card. In Germany, you will have to present a passport. In Amsterdam, a drivers license will do.

NY Jimmy

09-15-03, 00:58

Last week, I followed Member #1106 recommendations and called Models (020) 418-07-90, asked for Kim who was free (by the way, she's not a natural blond). She was nice and young (she said she was 20). She was nice and friendly with OK skills. She would only allow coming once, a bummer. I would repeat, but may be an older gal will have better skills, although Kim is a 9.

Capt Fred

09-16-03, 19:46

NY Jimmy:

I am glad you tried Kim. Forget about the hair, she is a 9. She has the most perfect body. I do miss her!
By the way, has the price changed, or was it still 150 Eruo? I am suprised she only let you do it once. In the 1 hour period, we went through 4-5 positions, and I came more than once! One day, I saw her twice, at 2 different times. She is well worth it. If you like them older, and more experinced, next time, try Stella at Bernadette (020) 492-31-50. She is from Chezc Republic, with very sexy legs and ass!
Oh well, I have to accept the name wsg forum has assigned me, but name is Fred! You can email me at fsmk5 at yahoo dot com.

Fred

Capt Fred

09-16-03, 19:57

Bigbob:

Try to stay at a hotel close to the airport and you may want to try these agencies (I have tried all 3 of them):

Blondie
(020) 418-37-28
2003 - €150 Hr.
Jennifer @ 24

Models
(020) 418-07-90
2003 - €150 Hr.
Kim @ 20
Katie @ 24

Bernadette
(020) 492-31-50
Bernadette-escort.com
2003 - €150 Hr.
Stella @ 24.

These prices are as of April 2003. They should not charge you extra for getting to the hotel. And, they are very prompt. You ask for 3 PM and they are there at 3:00! For a 3-some, you may want to try Models, ask for Kim and Katie. They are both very attractive, and sexy. 400 Euro if you want them to also have sex in front of you. Not real cheap! You have to pay the usual 150 Euro for each girl, and if you want them to have sex in front of you, then you pay additional 50 to each. I know not cheap! Well, just let them attack you, both at the same time for 300 Euro!

Fred

NY Jimmy

09-18-03, 18:48

Hi Fred,

The prices are still the same (150 Euro) and she came right away after I called, she was very nice and she does have a perfect body.

I think I have made her work hard and long the first time and that may discouraged her from going for a second. Besides she is more than 20 years younger than I am and she may prefer a younger man, I will definitely try Stella next time. Thank you very much for the information, it was right on.

Cool

09-18-03, 22:17

What would you guys consider the best european countries for mongering overall as far as prices and everything?

NY Jimmy

09-19-03, 06:21

Hey Fred,

Thanks for posting your recommendations and information about the escort agencies in Amsterdam, your information is right on.

Kim is a 9 and she does have a perfect body, and the price has not changed, it is still 150 Euros. I am not sure why Kim did not let me do it twice. I think it could be that it took a long time for the first round and I worked her hard, or she may be more inclined to do it with a younger guy, I am 25 years older than her. I will definitely try Stella next time, I am heading back there in two weeks.

Anyway, I think that the Netherlands (Amsterdam and The Hague) have the best escorts in Europe, they are very professional (they arrive on time) and the girls are very beautiful.

Captain Fire

09-20-03, 08:09

Thanks to all for info on ladies close to airport. Does anyone recommend a decent hotel thats not an arm & a leg. Any problem in bringing girls to hotel? Also are there any in the agencies referred go for anal?

Thanks

Cap

Capt Fred

09-22-03, 20:30

NY Jimmy:

Don't worry guy, I am about the same age as you. And, Kim does love older men. You just have to please her and make sure that she has an orgasm!

You are going to love Stella, and her beautiful butt! Lay her on her stomach, and do it from behind (not anal, she doesn't allow it)! You will see what she does with her legs and her buttocks. Stella may charge you extra for more than one time (about 50 Euro).

Stella is an "8.5", and she is very sweet. Tell her Fred said hello. If she can't remember, tell her that one night she spent 3 hours with me in April, in Swiss Hotel!

Anyway, have a great time!

Fred

Capt Fred

09-22-03, 20:36

Captain Fire:

Here is the best web site I have found for the hotels in Amsterdam:

http://www.bookings.nl

There are lot of hotels close to the airport. Once I actually got Grand Tullip Hotel for less than 120 Eruo.

And, you will never have a trouble with taking a Lady to your room! She will arrive at the hotel, and the receptionist will call you that you have a visitor, and can she send her to your room. It is very legal and very common in Amsterdam. For fun, in one day, I had 3 ladies come to my room, all at different times!

If you want more details, please email me at fsmk5 at yahoo dot com.

Hope you have a great time,

Fred

Capt Fred

09-22-03, 20:42

Captain Fire:

When I was in Amsterdam in April, I called at least 10 agencies with regard to anal sex, and could not find any! I think the best bet would the private clubs in Amsterdam (i.e. Asmara, Park 118, and Milau). They are not close to the airport. You can try the phone book and did the same as I did.

If you find any, please let me know.

Fred

Jeff Sinclair

09-26-03, 17:21

Hello Friends,

I am just back home after a week in Amsterdam and after some reviewing of my notes on both the Singel and Alkmaar will post some thoughts over the weekend.

this was my first trip to Alkmaar in the five years I have been going to Amsterdam and I now know I was missing, As my travelling companion from Vegas said "the cold war sure is over! ".

Sorry to those who asked about services at Asmara but I never got to go there and the only prive I was at was Park 118.

More will follow

Jeff

Darkmanxxx

09-27-03, 08:27

Whats going on guys. Visiting Amsterdam soon; want to know whats the average rate for the window girls. I'm travelling on a budget, only staying for 3 days, but i gotta try the windows and the 420.

Any suggestions on any specific girls to try? I prefer ones who are ok with bbbj & anal.

Capt Fred

10-02-03, 20:49

Darkman:

The window girls would cost you about 40-50 Euro. If they ask for more, don't bother. This is just for full service, and no anal. I have been there 3 times, and I tried escort, and the windows. I couldn't find any anal!!!

You have to walk around, and ask about anal. Be very careful about trans-sexuals! If in doubt, ask before going in.

You may want to check out this sight, since this is your first trip there: www.ignatzmice.com/Adam (The Walletjes!). The most useful site I have ever seen.

Also, it will be worth it to try some of these places:

Milau
Bos en Lommerweg 177,
Amsterdam.
Tel. 020-6824405
(6-2003) 60 Euro - 1 hr

Kwikie
Bos en Lommerwg 72
Amsterdam
(6-2003) 70 Euro - 1 hr

Admiral de Ruiterweg 419
Amsterdam
(6-2003) 50 Euro - 1 hr

Park 118
Sarphatipark 118
1073 ED Amsterdam
Tel. 020-6723022

Amsterdam Prive
Overtoom 443
1054 KG Amsterdam
Tel: 020-618-9110
75 Euro - 1 hr
www.overtoom443.nl

Asmara
70 Willem De Zwijgerlaan
Tel: 020-618-4069
www.asmara.nl

Escort service is not very cheap and here are the ones I have tried in the past:

Models
(020) 418-07-90
2003 - €150 Hr.
Kim @ 20
Katie @ 24

Blondie
(020) 418-37-28
2003 - €150 Hr.
Jennifer @ 24

Bernadette
(020) 492-31-50
Bernadette-escort.com
2003 - €150 Hr.
Stella @ 24

Ladies come straight to your hotel room. Escort is very legal, and normal in Holland. So dont' worry about her passing the reception desk to come to see you. Sometimes, the reception will call you to let you know she is coming to your room.

If you need more detail, email me at fsmk5 at yahoo dot com (i hope they post it this time!)

Best of luck, and have a nice & wonderful trip!

Fred

Xxxplorer

10-05-03, 20:53

Capt Fred.

Please recommend a club easily accesable from the Central Station at under 100 per hour. Prefer to walk.

If there's one please give walking direcctions.

Thanks

Captain Fire

10-06-03, 22:38

Hello Gents,

Has anyone out there run into a FS provider name of Isabelle. Supposedly lives in a place called Amersfort and is supposed to be absolutely top drawer. Appreciate any feedback on her. Thanks to all for info on short term solutions to high pressure sperm build up near Schipol. Taled with Bernadette and think that solution will be awaiting me in Schipol

Cap

Capt Fred

10-07-03, 15:38

Gringo Mojado:

I don't know any Sex Clubs that are really close to Central Station (walking distance!)

If you want to enjoy a live sex shows, try Casa Rosa. It is not that far from Central Station, and it is within walking distance (right in middle of Red Light District!)

Here is also a web site that gives you more information about Red Light District:

http://www.ignatzmice.com/Adam/

I have listed several of Sex Clubs in my last report, but I don't really think they are that close. If you call them directly, they will be happy to give you directions via Tram, or walking.
BTW, all the ones I listed below are less than 100 Euro.

Good luck, and keep us all posted on your adventure!

Fred

Bono

10-07-03, 18:24

Casa Rosa is certainly a great sex club. During my first visit there when I was in college and 18 only four years ago,they pulled a guy on stage from the audience and gave him a bbbj .Secondly they pulled this girl on stage and ate her out.This place has possibilities. I recommend it.

Garbanzo

10-09-03, 03:20

Brothels in Amsterdam.

Anyone know what the regulations are (taxes, fees, qualifications, size limit to facility, liquor license capability, can a foreignor hold a business license)? I was at Yab Yum, and I thought it was pretty lame while Termas in Brazil and FKKs in Germany have a great scene. Seems like Amsterdam needs a forward thinking brothel owner like me ;), but I have no idea where to start.

Capt Fred

10-13-03, 15:45

Garbanzo:

Here are two web sites that could be helpful, and give you a head start:

1. Netherlands Chamber of Commerce
http://www.kvk.nl/home/homeUK.asp

2. American Chamber of Commerce in Netherlands
http://www.amcham.nl/sustaining_members.htm

I wish I had the funding, and join in with you.

By the way, I always thought Yab Yum Club was the best in Amsterdam. I know they are expensive, but they probably have the good selection of girls. Can you give me more detail as why it wasn’t so good?

Fred

Jon Jones

10-13-03, 18:44

Bono:

Casa Rosa is a sex show, not a sex club as the term is used on this board.

I do agree, however, it's worth seeing. (Remember the Havana show scene in "The Godfather?")

Doggus

10-14-03, 08:08

Hey guys,

Does anyone have any info on how good Arnhem is these days?

The place sounds good in the archives but I just wanted some up-to-date info - prices, quality, quantity of girls?

I realise this is Amsterdam section but I got no response in another Holland section.

Cheers

Garbanzo

10-16-03, 03:12

Capt Fred,

I spent 4 weeks in Amsterdam in Feb. When I went to Yab Yum, it was a Friday night, around 10pm. I thought it would be hopping and happening, but there were 3 girls and no other customers. Bunk. Maybe it was the time of the year? I don't know. Regardless, after experiencing the termas in Brazil and FKKs in Germany, Yab Yum paled in comparison - not just on selection and quality, but value.

Wizard

10-17-03, 21:42

I am going to be in Amsterdam on Thursday 30 October and are looking for some good action.
I am only stopping over in Holland for the night on my way to my favorite "Club Beverly in Germany" (I prefer the swinger scene and the type of action that goes on in such clubs)

I have two options for Thursday night and would like to hear and recommendations from members of this board for either or both of these venues.

1: The Paradise Club North Amsterdam
Thursday is Gang Bang Night and I know that they hire 4 or 5 pro girls to get the action started .But I am hoping that it will induce some amateur couple action and I will be able to get in on it.
If not I will just have to manage on the locally supplied entertainment.

2: Showboat in Zaandijk not that far outside Amsterdam (I will have a rental car)
I know they are open on a Thursday and this club has a very friendly atmosphere (very few tourist visit this club from what I have heard which might be an advantage for me?)
I haven't read any reports from this club yet, and would like to hear if anyone from here has any good info to add on this club?

Bono

10-17-03, 22:24

My apologies.Yes it is a sex show and not a sex club.But I do ask you to check it out.I am headed to London this time and will post a report as soon as I am there

Capt Fred

10-20-03, 15:16

Garbanzo:

Wow, that is so strange to hear this about Yab Yum. Everyone always had wonderful tales to talk about this place!

I never have tried Brazil or FKK in Germany. I would love to travel to Brazil one day! Hopefully, I will make it to Prague this December.

BTW, did you try the web sites I listed below? I hope they were usefull!

harryreams

10-21-03, 06:44

Hi All,

I was wondering if anyone has recommendations on where I could find girls or places who are BBBJ or BB friendly? I'm in Amsterdam next week.

Had some great action via the Window lady girls last time with girls who wer open to negotiation.

GettingTang

10-22-03, 11:19

A few simple questions.

Anyone with lots of mongering in Amsterdam experience please help.
Yes I read this entire forum and could not find answers to the following questions

Do the girls in general do BBBJ or is even oral covered?

Are there lost of hotels within walking distance of the red light district? Can anyone recommend a descent one in the RLD area and what price is it?

How far is it from the airport to the Red light district?

Are there any freelance girls to be had, like in local bars, pickup joints, walking the streets, or is it strictly business establishments?

For those who have been to both Thailand and Amsterdam, how does the overall service compare?

Thanks in advance, please note I'm a giver and full time contributor to these boards, so I ask these questions not out of selfishness, but need.

GETTINGTANG~!

Bono

10-22-03, 11:45

For Getting Tang,I am going to try and answer some of your questions the most accurately I can.
a. Oral is always covered.This rule is now being stricty enforced by the council on prostituion.It has always been that way but before you can find older woman in the RLD giving head without a condom.
B. Hotel De Gerstekorrel in the middle of the Red Light district,The best 2 star hotel you can find.Clean,friendly staff,spacious rooms.The cost is about 79 Euros. To pinpoint the exact location , there is a bigger hotel called Grand Hotel Krapnapolsky,it is right behind there. Great hotel and depending upon your budget(I dont know what you want to spend)you should stay there.Highly recommend it. The Red Light District along with the Bull Dog bar is about 2 mintues away. Besides has a great Middle Eastern Restaurant and a pastry place right by it. Lots of other medicore hotels,but not really high standard.
C.It is about a 15 minutes train ride from the Airport. You just get on the train to central station. From central station the hotel I mentioned is about a 5-10 minute walk.Otherwise you can hop the KLM Shuttle and they will drop you off at the hotel for 10 Euros.
D.Freelance,I picked up girls at the above mentioned bar and teasers bar. A lot of the girls if you catch them at night will go back to your hotel for a handsome fee. Lots of escort options as well,just do a search on the net and it will give you tons.I used one particular agency, paid 300 dollars with a big titted ,firm assed blonde for 3 hours. As soon as I can remember,I will post the name here.
I have been to Thailand,but did not indulge there,but did find out about the prices, It is safer but more expensive in Amsterdam. Quality of girls is good in Amsterdam ,no doubt whether you are looking for white,black ,Indian/Paki girls here. The Asian girls are always better in Thailand. I am also planning a trip from LA to Amsterdam for the 7th time and as soon as I am there I will report.
Hope this helps, get back to me if you need any help.

Capt Fred

10-22-03, 16:18

Getting Tang:

Here is some more information for you:

1. For hotels, You may want to check out this web site for great deals on hotels: www.bookings.nl.

Bono is abs. right, Grand Hotel Krapnapolsky is a wonderful hotel. Right in front of it, is Swiss Hotel, a little cheaper than Krapnapolsky, and 1-2 blocks from the RLD. Try to book online, and you may be able to upgrade to a suite for the price of a single room. And, once you get an upgrade, then everytime you visit, they will give you the same deal. Everytime I go there, my name automatically pops up for a free upgrade!

BTW, if you are really looking for a cool hotel with the crazy ambience of RLD, you may want to try "Winston Hotel". Just check out their web site at: www.winston.nl. You can stay there for 60 - 75 Euro.

2. Here is the web site for RLD: www.ignatzmice.com/Adam

3. Again Bono is right about covered BJ. You may want to try the Clubs I had listed in my last reprots (just go back 1-2 week, look for my reprots). Just call them and ask. Most of these Clubs are 60 to 75 Euro.

4. If you are interested in SW, there is a section of Amsterdam designated just for that purpose. Please check the web site for RLD.

Best of luck in Amsterdam. If you need more detail please email me at fsmk5@yahoo.com.

Fred

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10-29-03, 17:53

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Aviator

10-30-03, 15:31

Hi all,

This is a report from September. Had lots of problems accessing the WSG until now.

Traveled to AMS and spent some time with the hobby. First stop was Love Club 21. This is a Thai place. It is on Koestraat toward the end of the block away from the RLD. Koestraat is roughly across from the Casa Rossa Sex Show.

Have been here several times before, but for those who have not, upon arrival, you are presented with the following menu:

Massage - Body 50 Euro 30 Min.
Massage - Body 75 Euro 60 Min.
Massage - Sex - Body 95 Euro 30 Min.
Massage - Sex - Body 125 Euro 60 Min.

I had been there several times before and had wonderful experiences. This time I was not as successful. The people just did not have the 'vibe' I was looking for. Over the years, I have found that when things do not feel right in the beginning, they are unlikely to get better. So, I decided to move on. I will definitely be back since I have had such good experiences there in the past. But this time it was not to be. (I notice that others on this board have said that they did not like this place. Personally, I have had both good and bad experiences, so YMMV).

So, I took it on down the block. Found a very attractive Thai person working a window not far away from the Love Club. Talked to her for a bit and the vibe was definitely much better. Spent $ up front (yes I know you can spend 0.5), but I have found that $ gets you a much better experience with less rush. This was defintely the case here. No need to provide exact location as people working the booths change frequently. Anyway, the mission was accomplished with no casualties.

Aviator

Wizard

11-03-03, 12:35

I have just got home from my tour of London Amsterdam and Solingen (Germany)
In Amsterdam I managed to visit both Showboat and Paradise so called semi swinger clubs? Both are very diffrent .
I need time to unwind and relax from my strenous trip and collect my thoughts and then try and write a hounest report on my vist to both these places.And help others follow in my footsteps should this appeal to them.and let them know what to expect.

Ortos

11-03-03, 21:34

Wizard,

I'm sure I speak for many when I say that we look forward to your reports and analyses of the two A'dam swinger clubs, Paradise and Showboat. Especially interesting will be to see how your experiences in the two A'dam clubs stacks up against the "champagne of Swinger Clubs," Beverly in Solingen. Beverly is a tough act to follow...I wonder if the A'dam clubs are even in the same league?

Take your time, relax, reflect, collect...then compose. Tell us all: the good, the bad and the sexy!

Thanks,

Ortos

Jon Jones

11-08-03, 02:06

"So, I took it on down the block. Found a very attractive Thai person working a window not far away from the Love Club. Talked to her for a bit and the vibe was definitely much better."

Just be sure that the "she" is really a "she" and not a she-male. It's sometimes very difficult to tell....

CityDude

11-08-03, 23:37

This past weekend, with two hours unexpectedly free, I walked up to Jan Bik from the hotel - Found a lovely,fresh Bulgarian with an A cup, average conversationalist; and a veryreluctant initiator of OWO. 75EUR for the hour.

Jan Bik is located few blocks of Centraal opens around 8PM - It can be a hit-or-miss place.

Big El

11-09-03, 23:39

I was recently in Amsterdam and partook in some window fun. It had been 5 years since I was last in the big A and it seemed much quieter and fewer women working than years past. Unfortunately the euro has jacked the prices up too. The girls were asking for 50 euro, a bit much for quick, industrial line sex (but to their credit they understood that that meant I was gonna pound the hell out of them). I guess I've been spoiled with the all night affection of Brazilian and Thai girls and 3rd world prices.

Ofcourse the buds are still the best in the world. I recommed renting a bicycle, getting some great smoke and checking out the windows near the Singel canal too. Overall the window girls get a C+ in looks and B in attitude. Don't expect anything too affectionate and you won't be disappointed. Also if you see a blue light in the window it means she has a dick too.

Bulai69

11-12-03, 12:33

Hi, I'm still waiting to hear if anyone has any knowledge/experience of action in Leiden - MP's, SW, escorts or anything !?

zokko

11-19-03, 02:04

I went to Amsterdam recently. The scene was pretty flat. Many of the Kamers are empty, the eastern european girls are mostly gone but there has been a significant increase in the number of Thais.

I did some window girls, 50 Euro a pop. Service has declined from a few years back, even though the price has increased. I started with a dutch girl, got the hurry up type treatment, did not feel like repeating. I decided to try a Thai (good but still rushed) and a petite Indian looking girl (fair).

Having been somewhat disappointed by the window girls I tried the prive huses. Jan Bik was pretty slow, only three girls on, but the prices were much better value. 50 Euro for 1/2 hr and 75 for an hour. I took an hour, spent twenty minutes fucking in three positions then we talked for the rest of the time. Recommended. She said she did everything except for kissing, don't know if that includes anal, did not ask.

Same story at Park 126, which was a bit out of the way from my hotel (Krasnapolski). Had a black girl, mid 20s. Very enthusiastic. To finish off the trip I paid a visit to Love club. Expensive at 125 Euro for an hour with sex, but better than anything available in the US for the same price.

Sorcerer

11-19-03, 13:08

It sounds like the prices DOUBLED since I was there a couple of yearws ago. Did they just change the Guiders sign into Euros and forget they were 2:1?

Otter Trax

11-20-03, 09:47

my last two visits to de wallen, i failed to bang at all due to the pricey and callousness of the providers, (except for the flat chested redheaded italian girl who knows the meaning of customer service previously mentioned in the archives). the wall is definitely now for tourists only. i doubt very serious any locals frequent these windows at all because the lack of value and price. there are some lookers that are worth window shopping but maybe that has changed since april. to be fair the workers in these windows put up with alot of abuse from the intoxicated louts who also patrol the area.

i also found that the tourists had discovered the singel district which also used to provide some good finds at value but has also follow the trend and disappointment of the previous forum poster.

because the ruysdaelkade was the place for the locals, i was able to get the cheapest bangs for the euro by some fairly passionate providers. but even it had changed from october to this past april. the bottom line was the talent was unenthusiastic and bored from the lack of bizness due to their very pricey rates they were accepting. it can be fairly difficult to bargain when there is a language barrier. i dont know how the dutch men do it but they usually have a commanding grasp of english and other euro languages. the ruydaelkade providers are catering to repeat bizness.

i think now the smartest tourist looking for reasonable grind action would do well to try den haag geleenstraat and associated red lights, the boats at urtrecht offer the greatest diverity and as does the ample district in arnhem and alkmaar (which require a little bit of navigational skills but not intricate knowledge of the geography of the villages). also, i tried antwerp which is a minature of den haag but seemed like it was also too commercial and not offerring gfe. it did provide for window shopping entertainment. there are also peep shows for faint of wallet in close vicinity.

conclusion: boycott the red light areas of amsterdam. basically with the rare exceptions these kamers are rip offs. of course i cannot vouch for the asian/thai windows which seem to garnish better recommendations by most of the posters with that preference.

keep it legalized.

otter trax

Stephen Horndog

11-21-03, 08:40

Hey Amsterdam,

How about some stories and information on the Tipplezone. It has always been a place I would like to cruise to and see legal prostitution in full motion.

SH

Otter Trax

11-24-03, 07:50

Tipplezone:

There's african girls who seem to hunt in packs and size up prospective victims around the canals. They offer you the world. Some are not very attractive. Mainly they want to get in your hotel room and see how much they can steal.

There used to be some addicts who operated behind the Central Station but I heard the area has transformed more into a hippie squatter community. You may have to look in some nondiscreet areas under bridges. There you may see a shooting gallery. How romantic can you feel with that atmosphere?

It's alot safer arrangement to patronize the windows. Maybe the excitement is worth taking your life in your own hands. Dont be naive. The sharks are thick looking for victims out there. Most importantly dont trust those African sweeties. They are out to do you harm.

Thaipan

11-24-03, 13:01

I get to Thailand several times a year and a visit to the Amsterdam RLD to see the Thai girls is always second best. I have been told of a New Thai massage place called Pattaya Club or Club Pattaya. Does anyone know about it, where is is, what is on offer, prices etc?

Alternativley can anyome make any alternative suggestions apart from Love Club 21 and Chaing Mai?

Going back to Amsterdam a week tomorrow so would appreciate a quick reply.

Thaipan

Thaipan

11-24-03, 13:04

>>>"Just be sure that the "she" is really a "she" and not a she-male. It's sometimes very difficult to tell...."<<<

If "she" was close to Love Club 21 then you got a "he"!!! They are pretty hard to tell sometimes ;-)

Thaipan

11-24-03, 13:40

Gettingtang:

>>>For those who have been to both Thailand and Amsterdam, how does the overall service compare?<<<

I am lucky enough to go to Thailand twice a year on business (each trip involves 3 weekends - don't ask but it works for me!) I also go to Amsterdam 2 or 3 times a year as well.

You simply cannot compare LOS and Amsterdam, either on a cost per pop basis or any other kind of measure. LOS will win hands down each and every time.

My advice for what it might be worth to you is to take a month out and spend it in LOS. Get to know some real Thai people and if you are really lucky you might end up with a GTG (Good Thai Girl) girl friend but it won't happen over night.

Make a Thai girl smile, even better laugh and she will do just about anything for you. If you are very lucky and she likes you and not just your baht and she smiles at you from her heart, she will rock your world completely.

Thaipan

Mahatma

11-25-03, 01:10

Hi Folks,

I was in Amsterdam this week and I stayed 4 days in the city. Now, I can say the most updated news about fucking guide in Amsterdam. Follow me carrefully, here we go:

1. Accomodation:
All the hotels in Amsterdam are very expensive, if you look at the internet booking the hotels are between 100-800 euro per night. I did this mistake and booked a hotel from internet. I stayed in Hotel Korenaer and it was 70 euro per night and shortly it was terribly dirty and uncomfortable. Do never trust in internet hotel booking in Amsterdam. Always try to chose a hotel at Damrak or Leisplein or Rembrandsplein. Your first choice should be Damrak area because it is just a walking distance to red light district and also central bus and tram station is in Damrak. When you arrive to Schiphol airport, there is a train to Damrak and it is about 3.10 euro. If you take a bus to Damrak it is about 10.50 euro. The taxi is about 50 euro. So, take the train!!! When you come to Damrak, you can find very cheap hotels. Just walk to the red light district and look at the hotels on the road. They are between 50-70 euro per night and hostels are about 20 euro per night. If you go to very good hotels as Hotel Grandnapolsky you have to pay about 250 euro per night...Here are my hotel recommendations for you: Hotel De Koopermoolen, Hotel Centrum, Bulldog Hotel, Hotel Neutraal, Damrak Hotel.

2. Transport:
Always use the public transportation. Newer take a taxi. The best thing is to get an daily ticket from Damrak central station. It is about 5.5 euro and you can use unlimited time bus and tram all day long. If you stay in Damrak, you have no problem in terms of transportation.

3. Fucking (Red Light District):
They call the famous houses as "Kameers". All the girls are at the window and you go and choose whoever you want. Fucking is starndart price as 50 euro. It includes blowjob with condom and one-position fucking that is the missionary. If you want to make other position, she asks extra 25 euro. I fucked 6 girls in 4 days and I can say that the first rule is to bargain at the beginning. these are my experiences. First rule, never go to a woman if she doesn't have an eye contact with you at the window. Otherwise she just stay in the bed and asks you "hurry up" and you have a terrible fucking. If you have an eye contact then she opens the window and invites you inside. Don't go immediately, firstly ask money and start bargainig...one blow-job plus two positions as missionary and doggie style and at least 20 minutes. If she accepts go inside and start fucking. In such a busy environment you may have an erection problem, so don't forget to bring some viagra with you to Amsterdam. Because you can't find Viagra even in the blak market in Red Light District. They sell a herbal viagra, it works but expensive (I tried one night and it was about 12 euro each tablet). The second rule is newer go to black or Thai women in the Kameers. They are dirty, smell terrible and mostly they have some disease (now, many people in this forum will criticise me but believe me I am saying truth...) Chose a dutch girl and have a nice fucking.

3. Fucking (Crazy Parties-the best way of fucking a Dutch girl)
Unfortunately, I could learn this way of fucking in my last two days...There are parties in Amsterdam in every night and marvelous dutch girls are always going to these parties. This is the best way to find good and clean girls in Amsterdam. The most difficult question is to learn the party places....Here is the answer...Go to the music shops and ask the guys "where is the party tonight" this is the magic word in the city...Parties are mostly in Leidsplein or Rembrandsplein area. From Damrak, you can go there by tram or by bus and it is about 10 minutes. But it is very difficult to enter these parties because the security guards are not welcome you in amsterdam and they mostly rejects tourists!!! But, give 20 euro to the guy at the security and you are now welcome!!! Believe me this is the best way to find a dutch lady in the city. But, don't hurry up, in this parties you can not take a girl to your hotel...There are "after parties" which you can only learn in this parties and in the "after party" you can pick up a lady. After parties are very private and they never announce it.

(to be continues)

Capt Fred

11-25-03, 17:55

Mahatma:

Thank you for the wonderful and detailed report.

PLEASE next time when you go back to Amsterdam, never pay more than 40 Euro for a Lady at RLD. All the tourists have jacked up these prices so much! And, if you walk around and talk to them a little bit, you can try all the positions for the same price! They know when they have a tourist on their hand, and they will do their best to get the most out of you! I have done one hour sessions for less than 80 Euro with Dutch Ladies in RLD. Always negotiate!

ALSO, please refrain from stereotyping the Ladies in RLD, and calling them "smelly, dirty, and with disease". They are lot of black Ladies and Thai Ladies that are in RLD, and they are wonderful!

BTW, in Amsterdam, you can ask the hotel receptionist (10 Euro tip!) to find you a doctor (35-50 Euro for doctor), and the doctor can give you a prescription for Viagra over the phone, and call it into nearby pharmacy. Cost per 100 mg Viagra is about 5 Euro in Amsterdam, at the local pharmacy. (Price as of April 2003)

After Prague and Moscow, Amsterdam is still the best place for fun and sex! Don't pay too much, and negotiate to keep the prices down.

And, if you want good clean sex, with no rush, try the Sex Clubs, like Park 118, Asmara, and Milau for 60-75 Euro an hour!

Fred

Thaipan

11-25-03, 18:19

Mahatma, as you might guess from my nick name I am partial to Thai ladies :-)

Thank you for your excellent report, I would just like to add that I found your observation about Thai's difficult to comprehend as I travel to Thailand a lot and have never come across a smelly or diseased Thai woman yet - there will always be a first time though! You have obviously not been through the towel routine yet!

Even in the Amsterdam RLD the Thai's are generally reckoned to be the cleanest. What you do have to watch out for though is that all might not be what it first appears to be, especiall with the Thai's! Have a good look and if you are not sure simply ask if "she" is a lady boy. There are at least 2 that I know of in Barndesteeg that you will not be able to tell whether they are she or he!!!

In July I got talking to an off duty Thai post op lady boy in a bar (Saow Thai, best Thai food in Amsterdam but be warned the place is owned and run by ladyboys! They won't hassle you and it is good fun for a bit of people watching!) one night in the RLD, at first I wasn't sure about her so I asked in my limited Thai and she confirmed that 99% of her clients do not know that she used to be a he. I have to say that she was pretty stunning, I would have put her age at mid to late 20's but she showed me her (Dutch) passport which confirmed that she was in fact 40!!! I saw her later in her window and she / he had a body that most western women would die for!

If you want a real Thai experience, get yourself over to bangkok and have a ball. If you need information on what bars etc to go to, let me know and I will be delighted to help you out.

Thaipan

Capt Fred

11-25-03, 18:33

Thaipan:

The Pattaya Club is on VrolijkStraat. I have never been there, so I can't tell you about prices!

Please try this web site for more information:

The Amsterdam Walletjets: http://www.ignatzmice.com/Adam/

Do a search on "Pattaya Club" (on the left side!) and you will find 8-9 reports on it.

Good Luck,

Fred

Freeler

11-25-03, 21:06

Dear Mahatma,

"If you take a bus to Damrak it is about 10.50 euro."
Not really. Perhaps you asked for the price of the ticket sold on the bus, but you should buy a 15-strippenkaart in presale at railwayticketcounters, at publictransport info desks and tabaconists for €6,20. Example: It is 7 'strips' (out of 15) to Haarlem, Amsterdam is probably 5 or 6 or about €2,75!

But your dayticket public transport tip is spot on. If you plan to do any looking around, this is the way to go.

All women are subject to medical checks, your statements on Thai and black ladies in general therefore are probably a bit too harsh.
I would however avoid black ladies for a whole different reason - I don't trust them but that's probably my fault:)!

Thai ladies in Holland are not 'same-same Thai lady Thailand'. Like country girls in Pattaya quickly learn the tricks of the trade, so do the Thai girls who travel to Holland for pam-pam and the rule in Holland is: Make'em pay! But Thai ladies always have above average skills!

I take it that by 'parties' you mean what was once named 'house parties'. A good way to pick up girls indeed, if you like that groove-thang. But it's equaly easy to pick up girls in bars (café's).

In general, yes Amsterdam is expensive - as in badly overpriced - to a level where it gets pathetic. Hotels, bars and restaurants in nearby towns (like Haarlem, Leiden) are far cheaper than the Amsterdam ratholes and easy to get to. Staying there will easily save you €40-50 per day. Trains there run till about 01.00hrs and start again around 05.00hrs.

Capt Fred,

I'm not sure if a Dutch doctor will prescribe Viagra to under 40 year olds... Also €5 for 100mg Viagra pills seems a bit cheap to me.

Capt Fred

11-25-03, 22:02

Dear Freeler:

You are may be right about the 40's age. The Dutch doctor I spoke to over the phone, never asked me for my birthday or age! Maybe she got the information from the hotel reception before talking to me!!!

About the price, I got 10 - 100 mg (10 of 100 mg!) Viagra for 50 Euro in a pharmacy in Damsquare across from Swiss Hotel! This is as of April 2003. The best thing, the doctor was quick, and my prescription was called in 15 minutes. And, the pharmacy was 20-30 meters from Hotel (No time wasted for FUN!).

Fred

Freeler

11-25-03, 22:16

Capt Fred,

Your original post said '5 Euro in Amsterdam'.
Perhaps it's a good idea to correct that typo...

Just to compare: I bought a 100mg Viagra in Pattaya, Thailand, for B450 or €10.... And damned, it worked:D!

Capt Fred

11-25-03, 22:34

Freeler:

I bought 10 of the 100 mg (10 - 100 mg!) Viagra in Damsquare for 50 Euro (5 Euro each!). Not a typo! 5 Euro for one 100 mg Viagra. (as of April 2003). This is from a pharmacy, with prescription called in by the Doctor. Without insurance coverage!

Forgive me, but did you get the Viagra in Thailand with prescription or black market? Maybe that is why so much higher!

In USA, I can get Viagra by prescription for $2 a piece. My insurance covers it! Most of the time, when I visit my regular doctor in USA, I just ask for free samples (they come in 6 pack!) You won't believe how often the doctors in USA try to push this product!

Fred

Freeler

11-26-03, 00:19

Capt Fred,

I'm not sure if Viagra is legal at all in Thailand. Recently pharmacies that sold it have been raided by police...
Thai pharmacies are totally different from the 'apotheek' in Holland. Dutch 'apotheek' basically supply prescription drugs only.
In Thailand a pharmacy will sell any drug they have. Some drugs, like malaria drugs, are available at special hospitals only.
The price for Viagra in Thailand is typically B400-500 or €8-10 each.
I'm pretty sure the 'old' guilder price for Viagra in Holland was NLG40 each or about €18 in the new currency.
$2 per pill!
Let me know when you're in the Low Countries again, OK:D?

Thaipan

11-27-03, 19:11

Hi Capt Fred,

Thanks for the info on Pattaya Club will check it out on Ignatz, I have been to this site before but thought that part of it was only available to those with a subscription - will look properly this time.

Thaipan

11-27-03, 19:19

Hi Freeler,

I think I remember your name from the Thailand section. I agree with you 100% about the coloured girls in Amstedam. I have been warned off them by several Thai girls I have come to know over the past year. They have a bad rep for ripping you off and picking your pocket at the same time so I tend to avoid them. I have also never seen one I would like to shag either for that matter! Give me a petite Thai / Oriental girl any day of the week!!!! Mind you that Thai girl with the huge tit implants on the corner opposite the Old sailor Pub leaves me stone cold too!! The girl 2 or 3 kammers up on the same side called Fa is a delight!

The Thaipan is not into big fat women with big tits and arse's the size of Africa thank you!!

Your comments about the above average skills of the Thai women is also true, in my experience and you will also get better service from them, even in Amsterdam. make the little darling smile and laugh and you are half way to heaven!!! :-)

The Thaipan

Mahatma

11-27-03, 19:39

this is the rest of my last message about amsterdam (you remember i said it was gonna continue)

first of all, a couple of answers to those who replied my previous message:

to freeler:
the bus ticket is 10.50 euro from airport to city center damrak. if you don't believe me i can post the scanned bus ticket here. because i took this bus from airport and arrived my hotel. i have a paid ticket!

to capt. fred:
thank you for your warning about my stereotyping about thai women as calling them "smelly, dirty, and with disease. but, this is my experinence from the red light district in amsterdam. i bargained 4 different thai ladied in seperate nights and they all were quite same. either i was not luck in those days or they were like people as i have explained before. anyway, you are right about not my stereotyping about people.

ok, now here we continue about fuck experience in amsterdam: (those who could not follow this memo can look at my previous message.)

4. blow-job ladies on damrak:
after midnight, always check these places...damrak (the road between central station and grandnapolsky hotel. walk slowly at this road and you will see some ladies around who come closer to you and to ask you whether you want a bj or not. they all have a fix price as 10 euro for a bj. they are mostly old and homeless ladied as far as i can predict. the youngest of them i met was about 35 and she was speaking very good english. they mostly sit in front of hotel damrak and mc donalds restaurant in damrak.

5. babes & beer bar:
again, this is a wonderfull place that everyone should at least one time visit in his staying in amsterdam. this bar is just on the damrak and very close to central station. this is a bar in which wonderfull ladies are working as waitresses and they also dance on the bar. they all wear very tight dresses and they have a bikini as underwear!!!! one beer is 3.8 euro and this is really a great place. if you visit this bar, make sure that you have a seat at the bar. because all ladies are gonna dance over the bar and if you give them a 10 euro they make you a special dance!!! you can not fuck them but this is a great experience. the most terrific lady name is rosa!!! try to find her, she is really marvelous.

6. places and people that you should keep away in amsterdam:
a few words about the places and people that you should be very carrefull in amsterdam. now, i am quite sure that some members of the forum will criticise me about my generalization but these are just my experiences that i need to share with you. you can not listen to them if you want. here we go.

first of all, don't go to cock ring or hotel kabul bars in amsterdam. these are famous gay bars and if you see the beautifull ladies in these bars, this doesn't mean that they are waiting for you over there. after midnight, mostly gays are gathering in these bars.

don't go banana club and club cassa roso. even though there are beautifull shows in these clubs believe me it doesn't mean anything. you pay about 40 euro for drink and show but the show is really bullshit. i spend 25 euro in banana club for a show without drink and i paid 40 euro in cassa roso for a show including drink. believe me it was just wasting my money.

keep away from afrikans and turks ath the rld. they mostly appraoch you and ask whether you need marihuana or cocaine. if you ask any price or something else, they never leave you and follow you on the road and continue disturbing while you were walking on the street.

peep show ladies: they are about 2 euro for 5 minutes peep show and the lady immediately approaches the cabin and asks you whether you need a private cabin or not. accept private cabin and start talking with the lady. but, they always demand 20 euro for a private dance!! never give this money, ask her to continue her dance and offer the lady 100 euro for a 2 hours fucking in your hotel. they mostly asks about 400 euro for a 2 hours fucking but after bargaining they accept 150-200 euro for 2 hours fucking. always date with her at gransnapolsky hotel lobby. don't give money in the before you start fucking. in my first experience, she demanded 50 euro in advance and she said she would be in the grandnapolsky hotel at the next day at 16:00 but she didn't come and my 50 euro has gone!!! but, next day i said i'm gonna give 300 euro at the hotel and she was at the lobby and after bargainig she accepted 150 euro for 1.5 hour fucking.

(it will continue)

Freeler

11-27-03, 20:28

Thaipan,

But the Freeler IS "into big fat women with big tits and arse's the size of Africa thank you!!" and always willing to fuck them to Central African Republic and back!
But they have to be Thai...:)

The pic shows a 20yo fat Thai girl with big tits and a fat arse. And she's got a big pussy too. But that didn't fit in the frame:D
(Picture taken in Thailand)

Thaipan

11-28-03, 11:31

Each to their own Freeler, that is the beautiful thing about sex! I have to say that she does nothing for me what so ever!!!!

In fact I would run a mile from her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)

Latin Ass

11-28-03, 12:48

Freeler,

You didn't pay forthat did you? To each to his own, but her tits look like they are off a dead person. Is she alive?

Doggus

11-28-03, 14:00

Hey guys,

I'd be very grateful if someone could give us an update on the scene in ARNHEM, in the 'Other Areas' section. i.e. directions to RLD, number and quality of girls etc.

I'm posting here as there seems to be more players in the Amsterdam section,

Cheers.

Ponce de Leon

12-04-03, 21:44

Just out of curiosity, how long does the bus take from the airport to the city center? Do they run every hour? Also, is the main train station in the city center? I'm planning on taking the train to Paris and was curious where it was. Thanks to those that respond.

SeniorCitizen

12-04-03, 23:31

You are almost always better off with the train. depending on time of day, the bus can take up to an hour, but the trainis very frequent and takes 20 minutes. from the Central station you can take a tram anyplace in the downtown area.

Joecaddy

12-05-03, 03:31

SeniorCitizen,

The train is the best, last time I was there it was only a few Euro and literally took about 15 minutes. Its the quickest, cheapest and most dependable to Centraal Station. I used to take the shuttle and was not certain about the train, now I would never think of anything but the train!

Joecaddy.....

Freeler

12-05-03, 06:05

Yo Latin Ass,

I don't know when your post popped up, but I just saw it for the first time.
It depends on what you call 'pay her', it was about €3 - B150. And she was worth it. She said she's got three sisters and a mom who's even bigger...

Sorry if this frightens anybody:D

Mahatma,

Same goes for your post! I'm sure you did not take a regular bus but a shuttle. Good idea to scan the ticket and post for all to see!
PUBLIC transport use the strippenkaart which are more expensive on the bus than in presale.

Banana61

12-07-03, 15:19

Robin

as a special treat I booked 2 hours with Robin from Elite. She arrived late due to a mistake by the agency but they did call to explain.

After a drink we headed for the bath for some oral action, then to bed for more OWO which was too much for me. After a rest it was back to action in several positions. Another rest then a final session, primarily for her benefit.

Probably the best action I have ever experienced.

Very sexy young lady. Accurate description as per the website.

Would certainly choose her again.

www.elite-company.com

Eu650 for two hours.

Predator II

12-12-03, 16:14

I have a 12 hour layover (8AM-8PM) at the airport or a nearby hotel middle of next month on my way to Cairo.

Since this is my 1st time thru Amsterdam I am looking for suggestions.

Thanks,

Pred II

Late Night

12-14-03, 01:14

banana61,

I could imagine how good looking this girl must have been. But, 650 is a little too much. I rather take (and do) 13 girls at the RLD area for that price. You spend few hours interviewing them, then you select which ones are worth your time.

Everything here is in my opinion,

latenight420/bootycalls!

Dickhead

12-14-03, 05:16

Freeler, I just saw the latest pics you posted and I have to say you are one sick individual. I would like to hook up with you when I am in Amsterdam next month. I like mine skinny but I am sure that is not a problem for you.

Freeler

12-14-03, 10:33

Dear Mr. Dickhead,

I've got two reasons to say I'm sorry to hear you are in Amsterdam next month.
The first one is that you actually are going to be in Amsterdam, the dogshit capital of the world, in January when it's cold and dark and miserable.
The other one is that I will be on the other side of the Great Eurasian continent: Thailand to be precise...

Sainter

12-14-03, 12:39

Damn Freeler, I too will be stuck in the miserable cold of Amsterdam. However I am making the most of my last few days here in the LOS.

PrivatStuff

12-14-03, 22:10

GENTLEMEN:

I WILL HAVE ABOUT A 2 HR. LAYOVER IN AMSTERDAM ON THE 17TH. WHAT FUN IF ANY CAN BE HAD AT THE AIRPORT WHILE I WAIT FOR MY FLIGHT TO MILAN.

THANKS,
DAVID

Jon Jones

12-14-03, 23:39

PrivateStuff

Not much you can do in a couple of hours.

The Red Light District is about a half-hour ride from the airport. To the best of my knowledge, there are no services at or near the airport.

PrivatStuff

12-15-03, 02:28

HEY JON:

THANKS FOR THE INFO. NEVER BEEN TO AMSTERDAM BEFORE & THOUGH I WOULD TRY IT OUT.

NEVER HURTS TO ASK THOUGH.

DAVID

Capt Fred

12-15-03, 17:27

Hi Predator II:

The best thing for you to do, is try to find a nice hotel near the airport. You can use this web site: http://www.bookings.nl/.

Believe me I have tried other sites, and this has always been the best in Amsterdam. Every time I book, I get a free upgrade to a suite!

Then after getting some rest, around 12 PM call one of these Agencies:

Models
(020) 418-07-90
April 2003 - €150 Hr.
Kim @ 20

Bernadette
(020) 492-31-50
Bernadette-escort.com
April 2003 - €150 Hr.
Stella @ 25

They do come to hotels by the airport. The cost includes transportation!

If you need more information, please send me a PM!

Fred

Capt Fred

12-15-03, 17:29

banana61:

To each is his own!

I think for 990 Euro you could had that Lady at "Elite" for 24 hours!

Fred

Late Night

12-16-03, 23:31

Should be back. Just stay the same!

Raptor

01-01-04, 15:09

I will be traveling to Amsterdam in May for a couple of days and plan to have some fun in the RLD. I am interested in black and asian girls, not caucasians. Are there any great black and asian girls with the right attitude in the RLD that you could recommend? What are their rates?

Mad Frax

01-02-04, 14:30

Raptor,

www.ignatzmice.com

Become member of this site and look at window girls' section. Names and advices about women in RLD!

Stay cool,

Mad Frax

Capt Fred

01-02-04, 19:24

Raptor:

I have been to Amsterdam 3 times, and have walked around both RLDs.

They are lot of Asian and African Ladies in RLD, and they are mostly on the side streets. You have to be very careful with Asian and African Ladies in RLD, because some of them are Transvestites (post-op & pre-op). If you are in doubt, ask before going in to see them.

Here is a most composite web site for RLD:

http://www.ignatzmice.com/Adam/

It is what Mad Frax recommended, but you need the extension /Adam/

And, please always remember to negotiate the price before going in. Anything more than 40-45 Euro for 30 minutes is not worth it. The prices in RLD are so ridiculous these days, because of people just paying any prices that are asked for.

And, treat them nicely! You don’t know how many times I just paid 40 Euro, and spend almost an hour with them.

Fred

Will John

01-05-04, 22:28

To see a photo of a rip off artist operating in the RLD go to http://rld.webspace4free.biz/images/BadNina.jpg

To see the justification for posting her photo go to http://www.ignatzmice.com/Adam/framed.htm and look for the post Photo of Bad Nina- the Rip Off Merchant / Thief

Rip off artists need to be exposed!

Cool

01-09-04, 00:38

This is disturbing Capt. Fred. This may cause me to skip Amsterdam. So your saying the white chicks are most likely to be real girls? Tell me more about this.

Dickhead

01-10-04, 18:58

I'm in town if anyone wants to PM me.

Capt Fred

01-14-04, 20:43

Cool:

WRONG! Far from it! Even some of the white chicks in Amsterdam are the same way.

I love anal sex, and on my first trip, some of the Ladies that I spent time with, and asked for anal sex, told me the best way is to see so and so lady who is a transvestite, and she is white. Well, it never came to that. And, to this day, anal sex is very hard in Amserterdam.

RLD and Privats in Amsterdam are some of the best in Europe.

Hope you have a safe and wonderful time in Amsterdam. if you need more information, please send me a PM on WSG.

Fred

Captain Ahab

01-15-04, 11:59

On a recent trip to Amsterdam I decided to wander a little farther afield than the usual 2 or 3 regular girls that I go for. And let me tell you, there’s some fine women out there! But of course, I’m sure you all knew that already. 

Probably the best lay I had whilst over there was with a South American woman called, unsurprisingly, Maria. I’d put her in her early to mid thirties. She works nights, from around 9-9:30 onwards, on a widow towards the top (north) end of Achterburgwal, on your right hand side as you’re walking up the street, about 5 or so windows from the Korte Niezel bridge. Her window is slightly recessed with a little foyer / stoop area to the right of the door. She gives a tender, warm, *unhurried* service and really gets into her work. And most importantly, she’s got one of those hot, welcoming, *alive* pussies that are just so hard to come by in *****s these days. *sighs*

Another good bet is Melissa, an Albanian woman (though she looks more Hungarian of Austrian I’d say) who works days from around 2ish on that little street between Trompeteerstraat and Sint Annenstraat. Donnenstraat or something like that I believe it’s called. She’s red-haired, perhaps close to auburn, around early thirties and fairly tall. Again, very good service, unhurried and your full money’s worth. On the same street, further up on the left hand side (as you’re headed west, ie away from Voorburgwal, is a delightful young girl from Bulgaria called Cindy. She’s very pretty, blonde, and about 20 years old. She gives the best damn blow-jobs I experienced in the Dam, and she’s pretty damn fine at the sex too. And again, importantly, the service is unhurried. Cindy works nights from around 8 onwards.

I also checked out Asmara, a privehuise highly recommended over on the ignatzmice site. And let me say : IT AIN’T WORTH IT! The women are all below-average: you’ll find much better lookers over in the RLD. And yeah, you get 45 mins for yr 100 or so euros but what they don’t tell you is that the girls won’t fuck for those full 45 mins, even if you ask. They’ll spend the first 20 mins or so (at least) giving you an “erotic massage” (which ain’t up to much either). My advice would be: don’t bother. There are far better ways to spend your money in Amsterdam, and the window girls are a treat, provided you negotiate with them a little. That having been said, if anybody knows a decent privehuise with good service and consistently pretty girls then I’m all ears.

As a final note, for those of you wanting to check out good coffeeshops whilst in the Dam, have a look at the “Kashmir Lounge” over on Jan Pietr Heijerstraat: all cushions, candles and a laid-back vibe, unlike most of the coffeshops in the central area. They’re a lot cheaper for drinks too. Take trams 7 or 17 to get there from Centraal Staation. For your smoke though go to “Anyday” coffeeshop, a quick 5-mins walk from Centraal Station, located on Korte Kolksteeg I think. They have a wide selection of predominantly organic, and potent, smoke. Whereas the only Kashmir Lounge offering that’s any real good is their SAGE (SEGE) bud.

Okays y’all, that’s it for now.

Ahab over and out.

Joecaddy

01-15-04, 15:51

Captain Fred,

The post you made on 01-02-04 touched a few good details. Two primary rules I use when seeking a jewel is to negotiate and be nice. I have always found that to be the most productive in
getting a better price and having a more lengthy pleasurable experience. Sunday I depart again for a week and will return with some current news.

Joecaddy.....

The Pirate

01-16-04, 17:18

Amsterdam Report:

Flight: From London - KLM (75 Pounds Sterling)

Money: The Euro continues to gain on the Dollar. Got a good conversion fee at the ATM though.

Shuttle from the airport to the hotel cost me 15 Euro (not a bad price). The shuttle takes you directly to your hotel. I check-in and grab a bite to eat, and I'm off to the RLD (yes, I wasted no time).

The RLD looks great as always, its a funny sight. Drunks, Pushers, and of course the beauties. Saw a Latin honey - Body 9.5, Face 9, Attitude 4 - 50 Euro for a quick FS and CBJ. Although she was "mechanical" her beauty made up for it a little. Took a quick stroll around - it seems like the overall quality has declined slightly since my last visit.

Round 2 - I decided on a Easter European honey - she was a true gem. I decided to up it to an hour 85 Euro (reminder - you must spell out everything that you are expecting beforehand, otherwise they will demand more for certain actions) She did a CBJ, FS, Doggie, no DFK or DATY. Great session, again body 7, face 7, attitude 9.

Overall the Amsterdam trip was great. I am now heading home and then off to CR, Rio, or BA. Decisions, Decisions! ha

Stay Safe.

Dickhead

01-18-04, 12:37

Buenos Aires has ruined Amsterdam for me. I did two window girls, one Thai and one Venezuelan, but my heart wasn´t in it. Mostly I just stayed really stoned. BTW I hung out in the Singel RLD and not the main one. 50 Euros and had to negotiate to get that fully nude. This place is too commercialized.

Otter Trax

01-19-04, 10:12

I agree with you Dick. I m not sure what the answer is but I think a boycott is due. There are other avenues. It doesnt sound like you tried the Ruysdaelkade. The quality may vary but it was sufficient for this tundra mate. Also it's near Park 118.

Den Haag is but a Snell train ride away and offers three streets to browse. Utrecht is promising with its canal boats and a tiny RLD street within walking distance of Centraal Station. Alkmaar is very worth scouting. I think that is what mongers in the know are finding out. I found all the Latin providers to offer superior service to the rest of the nationalities there.

Definity avoid the black SW in the central Amsterdam area at all cost unless you like tempting fate.

DeWallen Amsterdam is for tourists only.

Otter

Genghis Khan

01-20-04, 15:08

have made big plans for a trip in March. I will do roundtrip of
my favorite hunting spots. The schedule is as follows:

27.february - Amsterdam
I plan to visit the Red Light District and Club Elegance.

28.february - Barcelona
I plan to visit the show bar Bagdad and Showgirls.

01-march - 04.march and
08.march - 11.march - Sao Paolo
I plan to visit several clubs among them
W, Cafe Foto, Jardim America, W Unico,
Bahamas and Millenium.

05.march - 07.march and
12.march - 13.march - Rio de Janeiro
I plan to visit several clubs and thermas among them
Centaurus, 4x4, Solarium, Help and Barbarela. Will also
try to do a little tourist business like visiting Sugarloaf
and Corcovado.

If anyone wants to meet, send me a PM.

GK

Roy Whiting

01-22-04, 23:53

I think the advice that I’ve read to avoid some of Amsterdam’s RLD areas is fundamentally sound. Personally I think this should apply to part of the area around the Oude Kirche where the Afro-Caribbean women are found.

I visited Amsterdam in late March last year for the second time. Prior to this visit though I had never before paid for sex, so the whole experience was new for me. Yes, I am forming an excuse for my following tale, but what the hell.

Following a pleasant but all too brief Euro50 encounter with a nice girl down Trompetterstraat, I planned to have sex with one girl from every ethnic origin. Having been starved of such delights in my normal life sexcapades, the opportunity suddenly afforded me was too much to resist. I headed around to the Oude Kirche area where I planned to shag someone black. There is a small alleyway between some of the windows which leads to a very small windowed courtyard. I headed for the one woman who wasn’t lounging lazily around, utterly disinterested and depressed-looking. About to commence the negotiations, I was bundled unceremoniously down a corridor and into a side room where Sarah (as was her name) told me to get undressed. Being British and too polite to argue, I began to get my skivvies off, all the time fearing the worst after the initial lack of negotiation. When I was standing there in just a T-shirt with my tackle out, Sarah then demanded Euro 100 for a suck and fuck. I knew this to be a rip-off, even in my state of semi-ignorance, and told her I couldn’t agree to that. I eventually haggled her down to Euro70 , but still had to get change for a Euro100 note. She then said, with a look of fear coming over her face “I’ll have to speak to my boss”. After reading the look of alarm on my face, she called up to some massive gorilla, who came plodding down the stairs to dole out some spare notes. I’ll never forget the look of fear on her face when she spoke to him. She obviously didn’t see much of whatever she earned per fuck, so she screwed another Euro10 out of me before we began.

The actual fuck and suck was reasonable but nevertheless coloured by the slight unpleasantness of the negotiation and the realisation that a lot of the girls there are still serving “boyfriends” or are working illegally. If there are any of you who are new to this site and to the RLD of Amsterdam and are of a shy disposition, don’t be afraid to negotiate on the door or turn tail if you get dragged in without being given the chance to state what it is you want.

I’ll be heading back to the Dam at the end of March, a little older and a lot wiser.

Dmitri48

01-24-04, 22:23

For those of you with the time to plan ahead, please check out the web-page of www.zuzana.tv.

Zuzana is a Czech lady that sends gorgeous, young women to Amsterdam for a week or so at a time.

I booked two hours with Adrienn, a Hungarian student living in Paris. She is stunning and I can hardly believe I have been with her. She was great to be with and she did pretty much what I wanted. Nonetheless, she didn't kiss or do oral without so I have suggested to Zuzana that she change the description. I'm not complaining though since it was a fantastic pleasure to screw her and have oral.

[As a result of this 'complaint', she has offered me a reduction on another girl as she said this was unacceptable, 30 mins extra but free on a one hour booking or 60mins extra but free on a 2 hour booking. I am very interested but hesitating....]

When you book, you get confirmation within 24 hrs and the address of the hotel is both Emailed and sms'd 48 hrs before with a mobile number to call back. The visit was in a three star hotel.

Great service and a fabulous young woman.

It's pricy and I can't do this every week, as much as I would like to, but I don't have a problem treating myself once in while.

Joecaddy

02-02-04, 05:21

well, i finally have some time to sit down and share the update from this last visit to amsterdam. seven nights and seven days of pure fun and memories that will last a lifetime. i knew things were off to a good start while sitting in a coffeeshop for the first time and a guy approached me and handed me the remains of his party supplies. apparently he was departing back home to england and of course could not take it with him so, i was the lucky recipient. after mentally getting into the swing of things and settled in my hotel i decided to venture out to the singel rld and check out the women to be found. i was very happy to find this hot looking blonde who for 40 euro was a real treat. had the normal experience, nothing to brag about and i was off for a steam.

i do not want to spoil a good thing and by posting this it might open up some floodgates, however i really think this adds to the enjoyment amsterdam has to offer, you guys should visit a sauna! especially in the winter, either before a session with a woman or after it’s really rewarding. a girlfriend of mine who was born and raised in holland turned me on to this, going to the saunas are a big part of the dutch lifestyle however do keep in mind the saunas are not a sexual thing, its purely for health and physical wellness, or as i do, to thaw out from the cold and revive yourself for another round of whatever fun you desire. the sauna deco for instance i highly recommended, its coed and located on herengracht. what is nice is to see normal hot looking dutch women “and other nationalities” leisurely walking around in the nude and enjoying the facilities steam room and dry sauna. again please remember they frown on sexual advances, i once saw a guy warned in a demeaning way that certain actions are not allowed. for 20 euro it's a great way to spend a few hours and you will feel like a new man after visiting.

anyhow getting back to the women of amsterdam, i ended up over a seven-night stay having (8) eight experiences. i honestly can not remember all the name’s and maybe because i can care less because how many really use their real names to begin with! this one woman however really stuck out for me. her name was "marina" and she was a nice russian treat, i initially negotiated a deal for 35 euro and was very surprised of her attention, so surprised that i ended up visiting her two more times while there on my stay.

she was located in the little street between singel and herengracht, right by the police station, there are a few kamers on that one specific street. her window had a sunflower hanging from the curtain. anyhow she was really sweet, my first visit was about 30 minutes and the last time i saw her we spent over an hour with each other and she never asked for more than the normal 35 euro. i gladly handed her an extra 20 after my last visit just to truly show my appreciation.

if any of you guys go looking for her, currently she has returned home to russia “from what she told me” however will return in three weeks. i am truly going to make every effort to get back there just so i can again have some fun memorable experiences.

this one girl i had located between oude kerk and st. annestraat near the peep show alley was hot, so hot i was truly mesmerized so i decided to go for it and wow! she claimed to be 26 however really looked 18. she was from czech and very petite with long black hair and not a flaw on her body, she was worth every cent of the 50 euro spent.

the wsg website has helped me and my efforts substantially when seeking pleasure, prior to my visits abroad i have read up on what’s going on and over the past few years i have been fortunate in contributing to a couple of forums, primarily budapest/hungary and amsterdam. i am happy to retain a senior status and much kudos to jackson for keeping this site alive.

after reading warnings of what to watch out for and beware of, i can truly say i have never been ripped off, never been suckered into something i regretted and never ended up in a situation that i could not reverse. caveat emptor = buyer beware, after reading this website i have always remembered what can happen when shopping for a treat and the old line of “i will not take off my top” unless i get extra money was a lesson learned here on the website, not by personal experience.

in the alleys between vooburgwal and achterburgwal, i cannot remember the names of the streets however those girls well known for not taking off their tops unless you pay extra. i asked a few really cute girls if they will and i was glad i did prior to entering cause they all either said “no” or yes for 25 extra euro.

i personally enjoy the kamers in the singel area, they seem a bit larger “not that space has anything to do with it” however i also seem to think that due to the less traffic and exposure the women are more willing to take the opportunity when it comes and not be so demanding as the girls in the main rld. its true that the main rld has a much better percentage of finer looking women however looks do not always reflect the type of service you receive. always treat them with respect and negotiate, you will never go wrong!

to close, amsterdam is still a great place for fun, so much fun i am planning to return asap for another round. hope you guys enjoy the report.

joecaddy.....

Freeler

02-03-04, 06:02

Joecaddy,

"Hope you guys enjoy the report."
I did:).

Dickhead

02-10-04, 17:26

I'll be in AMS again this weekend. Anyone who wants to hook up, PM me.

Richard Head, Esq.

Jellyfish

02-13-04, 05:45

I am going to be in Amsterdam Saturday and Sunday. PM me if you are interested in accompaning me to have a beer or sample the ladies.

The Jellyfish

Banana61

02-13-04, 23:02

I second JoeCaddy's comments about saunas in NL.

I have visited quite a few over the last couple of years; they are great for a rest and I always feel invigorated after a couple of hours. A discrete look at other visitors is possible but any sexual behaviour will not be tolerated.

As far as I know Sauna Deco is the only sauna in central Amsterdam. The architecture is nice but there are bigger, better places elsewhere (Leiden, Den Haag, Rotterdam and out of town).

If you want a sauna + sexual experience try Paradise Sauna Club in Den Haag (full service night club/prive) or Body Contour in Rotterdam (massage parlour).

Joecaddy

02-14-04, 09:15

banana61,

There is another place in Amsterdam very close to Sauna Deco,
located on Keizersgracht 124 is the Sauna De Keizer. I actually found the place from the Russian babe I was referring to in my earlier post. After mentioning to her that I had visited Sauna Deco earlier in the day she told me that on Sundays she frequents De Keizer. De Keizer is not so busy in comparison however personally I still find Sauna Deco much more enjoyable, cleaner and better maintained.

You are right about the Paradise Sauna Club. I visited last
January and it’s a fun place, lots of action and I saw plenty of trim. The one time I was there I did not get lucky so after enjoying the facilities for a few hours I ventured back to the RLD. I am making every effort to return in a few weeks, Amsterdam is calling my name.

Joecaddy.....

Freeler

02-16-04, 06:10

All,

I hereby take back my earlier statement that Amsterdam is the dogshit capital of the world.
It is not anymore.
In fact, the inner city - by any standard - was clean yesterday.

Both the Singel and main RLD's are still there. I did not ask for prices myself, but girls asked other people for €50 F+S everytime I listened in.
A guy on the streets was selling Viagra, at least that's what he said... Another guy was playing the scamgame 'balletje-balletje' (one ball, 3 boxes, switch, switch: you lose - don't play!) and a pizzaseller charged higher prices than he first quoted and shortchanged on top of that - hey, it's Amsterdam!
His wrongdoing was rectified:D.

When in Amsterdam: Don't take shit:) and take care!

Tired_Driver

02-25-04, 06:04

Greetings,

I have a weird question for the group... Has anyone ever run into or seen a midget or "little person" (as they like to be called) working as a window girl or in a club?

I have been over much of the RLD on a few occasions as well as other places in the world. That is one thing I have yet to see.

I know the Amsterdam RLDs have some more fetish type providers in places (fat, S&M, etc)

I may be there soon. If anyone has seen such a thing in Amsterdam please share.

Thanks!

TD

Tired_Driver

02-25-04, 06:06

One more question.

Is there a place or an RLD area that is known to have a high concentration of eastern European girls working?

Thank you again!

TD

Ortos

02-25-04, 08:51

re east european girls:

there are some rep001tered here and there throughout the three rld in a'dam, mostly russians. but to find what you seek you really ought to go to alkmaar's achterdam. that rld street is east european rich! it is what you are looking for, and better prices and performance to boot.

Italopower

03-01-04, 23:32

Hi all,

Can you tell me some good websites where I can book escort girls in Amsterdam? Not agencies, I prefer sites with a lot of escort girls, like guides etc.

Greets

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to add standard capitalization and punctuation. To avoid delays in future reports, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

Late Night

03-05-04, 23:05

Looks like business has slowed down significantly in Amsterdam RLD. We continue shorting the piece of sh!t Euro here and business aint getting better until both the Euro and RLD prices come down.

Hizark21

03-16-04, 05:55

Tipplezone

I read that the Tippelzone closed down. Quite dissapoining.....

Fishin

03-16-04, 15:01

Headed to Ams/NL for the first time pretty soon and would like some advice. I'll be mostly in Eindhoven but wil be traveling. I'd love to find some sweet/hot chick for a GFE not interested in the RLD. I heard there were some excellent escort services that come to the hotels in the area, although I have not done any research on the topic. Any help would be much apreciated.

Thanks

Sixtynine

03-16-04, 16:18

Guys, this can not be said enough, the main RLD is a tourist ghetto and ripoff!! After window shopping on my 5th visit to AMS RLD, I decided to go ahead and do the deed as I never did a Dutch girl before. Found really tall and nice blonde girl who upon entering and asking prices, said she would not remove her top. Pissed that I agreed to price and then ask question later as she pushes me out the door. Found another blonde who was really petite and looked like she was 17. Decided I would do her instead as nobody was stopping at her window. Same deal, no top off during sex unless you pay exorbitant amount. Got fed up with this BS and decided to try very nice Chinese girl I saw earlier near the first Ducth girl. Curtains drawn so she was busy. Could've waited but even though we know these girls go with many night each night, I didn't want to see who she was with or have that thought.

Mind you this is peak hour 10pm on a Saturday night. Didn't matter that it rained a little, mongers are like mailman and cum out in any weather! Finally found Dutch girl who was trying to tout a threesome with her exotic friend while I negotiated top off. Demanded $$ up front and did not allow me to remove her clothes and kept telling me to hurry up with mine. Got me on the bed and started CBJ. Technique was mechanical as she only used mouth to wet it while using hand for friction. Tried to move her hair out of the way to see but she barked at me and told me to look in the mirror. I have to say it was feeling too good as she was skilled and focused only on the sensitive head area so told her to stop and we changed position with her on the bed.

Here is the real BS part. She guided me with both hands to her open pussy and although it felt like it went in, I began having my doubts after pushing along. Either she was dry or I was just F(#king her hands! Girl had real attitude as when I tried to fondle her breasts, she scolded me. When I asked to change position, she said no. Having doubts if I was inside her or not, tried to take it out but she said no, hurry up and hurry up. Now that I was not in the mood and felt I was going to grow limp, I decided to lean on her and kiss her neck while humping away just trying to get it over with. Get off me she says and when I do come, she immediately pulls me out (remember, she has a hand on my shaft too and knows when I come or not) saying she has a baby inside her and does not want to take any risk of condom breaking. Some f#%king mother she is going to be one day. She takes the condom off and it is wet but only near the tip. I guess I did her Japanese style where only 2 inches of it goes in, doing only missionary position, and cum inside of 10 minutes.

And BTW, the top off never came off even though she said yes. Once $$ is handed over, its all over for us suckers. When I walked out on the street afterwards, I felt like I had "sucker" branded all across my face as I did not pick up any chicks this time dancing till dawn at the nightclubs like I did on 3 of my last 5 trips.

Screw me once, Amsterdamn you. Screw me twice, hey, that won't happen again!

I may try Alkmaar or Dutch town but only after this bad taste has gone from this terrible experience.

Fck Dick

03-16-04, 20:55

Hysteromania,

I totally agree with you. Two years ago I had similar experiance. But out of five I had one good experiance. Girl was 6 foot tall and let me suck her tits and in all it was good experiance. After that she asked me about my experiance with her but that's it. I was told it's very rare but next day I could not see her in same window and what I experienced was worst fuck in my life. I would rather fuck rubber dolls in those shops than those girls.

Ortos

03-16-04, 23:11

Hyst,

Sorry you had to learn the hard way, but I guess we all did in our turn. Some of us have decided to more or less boycott sex in the Wallen...go to the Achterdam in Alkmaar. That will wash the bad taste and put a satisfied smile back on your face...

Iseeu

03-16-04, 23:16

Hyster and others wanting to taste the Walletjes RLD, and wanting to avoid the ripoff treatment that poor mongerers thinking through their loins and ignoring all of the numerous warnings posted here through the centuries from previous trailblazing mongerers inevitably receive, should try the fantastic ignatz site where there's a rating service for all of the sp in Am-dam. Maybe next time you'll at least see some tits for your money! LOL

Sixtynine

03-17-04, 15:23

I guess it is like being a kid and told not to touch the hot stove. No matter how much people tell you not to, the only real way you may learn is by actually touching it. Then you will realize what it feels like to be burned and will never do it again. I guess I got burned as I have just been too spoiled by girls in South Asia and South America.

Boozer

03-21-04, 05:31

I had two recent experiences with outcall services in Amsterdam while staying at the airport. First was with Bernadette-escort.com. The quoted price was 170 euro, a very attractive Czech girl showed up, but it turned out that anything more than one pop was extra (including DATY). On top of that, only CBJ was on the menu. Very dissapointing given my original expectations. For around 270 euro you could have had two pops with DATY, in my view knowing that up front is different from an upsell in the room.

The second was definitely better. I found amsterdamcallgirls.com. Supposedly this is a coop and all the providers are 'owners'. I spoke to Anita, she quoted 190 euro all inclusive. This was also CBJ, though I think that could change given a repeat visit. The lady fit the description I was given, was reasonably open (multiple pops, DATY), and I would probably use this service again. They definitely were more attuned to the desires of their clients. In fact, if you have a layover in the airport, they apparently have an 'airport special' where they will send a driver to bring you to a motel where you can have fun with one of their ladies before returning to catch your flight - I did not get the price for this.

Next time I hope to check out some of the private clubs like Sarphatia.

El Mujerista

03-21-04, 21:19

I was in Holland last week for the first time in a few years. Tried the RLDs in Den Haag and Amsterdam first. Both experiences featured young (21 and 19-year-old) "blonde" Dutch girls, petite with smallish boobs the way I like them. The one in Den Haag was on Doublestraat, the one in AMS on Stoofsteeg. Both nice and pretty enough, though in both cases the typical RLD BS: no kissing ("only my boyfriend" said the first, what a turn-off); the second wanted €25 extra for doggie (for whatever reason no extra for other positions, among those utilised being mish and CG). No hassles over getting nekkid or other services, so in general these were economical experiences despite also being on the mechanical side.

High point of the trip was a night in Amsterdam where I visited what's become my old staple, Club Elégance (www.club-elegance.nl). It was my third time in this place, and when I arrived a bit after nine there were about 10 ladies and I was the only customer. At least three of the ladies were doable (one was a statuesque Dutch blonde, but I'd had enough of the Dutch thoroughbreds). I settled on Sara, a very petite girl of Moroccan descent. The rooms at this place are rather nice, on the largish side with nice big beds and a hot tub as standard issue.

Things got off to a good start with the standard CBJ. She arranged herself lotus-style between my legs and started sucking. She was so small I could actually wrap my legs around her and pull her tight against me while she worked away. She also had a necklace with a fairly large medallion that would swing back and forth and periodically massage my balls, making for a fine and memorable BJ.

MPCFS followed, first CG then doggie (her legs between my legs, quite tight) before finishing in mish. We finished the hour chatting in the hot tub.

Afterwards we hung out at the bar as I finished the five drinks included with the cover charge. Overall a nice experience, but this place is not cheap. Cover is €75, though as noted, includes five drinks. Price for one hour in a room (with a girl, of course) is €275. As I learned in my earlier visits, the girls are also allowed only to drink champagne, the cheapest bottle of which is €110. I don't think a purchase is mandatory, but you might get some girls who say it is since I suppose they get a cut. Also, don't take a taxi there -- if you do, they will add the kickback they give to the driver to your cover charge. Just call them and they'll send a car to your hotel or whatever, as well as a return ride.

On my next trip I might try one of the escort services. It's a pity, though, that few I found in Amsterdam seemed to feature pictures of the girls available, unlike those in London, which remains one of my favourite mongering grounds (though sadly, one of the most expensive).

Nefarious

03-23-04, 00:17

Gentlemen,

As you might know, it's 50 Euro for 15 minuntes of standard FS (including an often lazy CBJ). You have to haggle even to get more than one position. I left feeling ripped off every time. Sure, I got off, but it was too rushed and most of the girls that I met were rude and/or straight up scammers. I only had one that was worth my time. Amsterdam is still sucking off the tit of its reputation that is no longer deserved.

I only post here to warn others that might be considering a trip to this "legendary" city. Unless you're into drugs or have tourist attractions in mind, avoid AMS. IMHO, there are much better places to monger.

Nefarious

Joecaddy

03-23-04, 07:43

Trip Report,

Just returned after spending four days and four nights in Amsterdam. I have to agree with a prior post here stating that the pickings are slim. When I was there in January there seemed to be more going in Singel and the main RLD. Literally on this trip there was about 30% less trim to choose from, nevertheless I still enjoyed the brief visit enough to fuel my desire and return ASAP.

After reading a few prior posts here on the WSG about “GFE” girlfriend experience that others received, this time I got it! My fun started out re-visiting the Russian babe I mentioned on my January report. Maybe it was the anticipation of knowing what I was soon going to get, however she was great, so nice I actually entered her kamer four times while in Amsterdam. The last visit on Sunday topped off every experience I ever had prior, not only with her but all pros in my history of paying for trim.

The first few visits were typical, she did the normal routine that pleased me ever so much and kept me coming back. Never did I feel rushed, pressured or uncomfortable in her presence. Surprisingly enough, time was never the factor with me and she never said a word about it, after the job was done we talked a bit and always ended with triple kiss Dutch style that she initiated.

Sunday started out normal, the typical greeting with a kiss and slowly stripping down for fun, I found it interesting when she never mentioned cash, after it dawned on me I finally reached for my wallet and whipped out the Euros. With “Marina” I never spent more than 50 Euro, the only reason I kicked it up a bit from 35 was due to her services.

We had sex in the usual positions, maybe it could have been from walking the many miles I did, it could have been from the vigorous sex prior or just the sheer exhaustion from partying, however I was feeling tired. After 20 minutes of pounding and my heart thumping to the beat of a stopwatch, I just wanted to throw in the towel and give up. I looked at her and said, “that’s it, I am tired and cant cum”, she quickly replied to my surprise and said “no! you are not tired, you keep going and I will get into another position”.

Wow! This was a first for me and I can almost guarantee that this is not an everyday experience made available to everyone. Aside from the surprise I was flattered and ultimately pleased to have found someone who cares. I can be about 99% certain had I said this to any other girl who I visited in my past, they would have said ok you are tired? Have a nice day and goodbye.

Call me a creature of habit, however when I find something good I will be back and I hope to see her “Marina” later this year. The other babe who I experienced in Singel was ok, cute and sexy, nothing really to brag about and she was available for 40 Euro.

The main RLD really is a tourist pit and I am surprised the girls working there actually make money on a Friday or Saturday night. When I walked around it was so crowded with tourists hardly anyone would approach the kamers, when someone did it not serious from what I saw, only humorous chat and that’s all.

On a side alley off Achterburgwal, there’s a specific row of kamers that wraps around to Achterburgwal, while walking through it was not hard to notice a guy being kicked out, shouted at and seeing the door slamming behind him, needless to say something happened and the girl had quite the nasty attitude. Many of the girls in the main RLD really do not even look at you anymore, in the past I used to stumble and trip every other step when walking by the kamers as I received numerous smiles from the many babes. Even the window tapping has reduced substantially.

If anyone is interested in decent accommodations, I recommend the Hotel Ibis located directly next to Centraal Station. Rooms are clean and fully contained with great showers and cable TV. The hotel has 7 floors and a restaurant, very secure as “credit card style” keys are required to access the elevators. About 85-125 Euro a night depending on season and its perfectly located right between the main RLD and Singel. They even have a loyalty program offered and after 11 nights spent in one year, you get a free night on the house. Request the “city side” and not the waterfront/train station side.

To conclude, I still think Amsterdam is fun and exciting, the combination of trim and coffeeshops makes this an ultimate destination for me. Reading some of the negative posts here on Amsterdam amuses me, even though some guys have bad times it does not mean everyone will and it really has much to do with selection, attitude and never forgetting for the girls its only business. Negotiate and treat the girls nicely, you might receive rewards others fail to. Hope you guys enjoyed the report.

Joecaddy.....

Epicurus

03-27-04, 16:51

Ok, read several messages regarding lack of info concerning the escort scene. Well, maybe I can help out a bit.

Some of the escort sites which do feature real pics and which I have personally tried myself;

www.prettywomen.nl
www.angel-escort.com
www.heaven-escort.nl
www.allure-escorts.com
www.amoroso.nl
www.dolce-vita.nl
www.privateconnection.nl
www.dibbes.com
www.secret-escort.nl
www.millennium-lady-escort.nl

Most of these girls are Easteuropean though. There are other escort agencies with mainly westeuropean girls, but their rates usually start at around 175euros/hour, so almost double.

Quimrod

03-28-04, 12:45

I’ve recently got back from the Dam after a three day trip. Thought I’d write up my experiences with a few of the girls in the Walletjes. I wasted no time in checking in to my hotel (The Luxer on Warmoesstraat – 80 Euro a night for a single room if booked on the net far enough in advance) and strolling out around the adjoining RLD. I didn’t intend on getting a girl straight away but that’s what happened.

Saw a nice dark girl about 30 or so metres north of the Casa Rossa on the west side of the Oudezijds Achterburgwal. She inhabits a kind of basement kamer where you have to stoop to go down into if you’re at all tall. Sara(h) was petite, dark skinned and with a really nice smile. She didn’t smile all that often though as she seemed just a tad down in the mouth. She said she was Brazilian but had been brought up in the Netherlands and had been in the business for a few years. The whole thing was over in a couple of minutes. After a quite good CBJ I climbed on top for mish and thrust away for a while to completion. She didn’t really put me at my ease a great deal and I felt pretty tense during the act. It was in fact typically passionless and mechanical. I’m not looking for GFE but a little involvement, faked if necessary, would have improved matters immeasurably. As it was the first time in too long since I’d had sex I had told her in advance it wasn’t going to last long. Her mobile phone text alert went off just as I did and this prompted her to say “Ooh, you finished just in time”. I’m pretty laid back about some of the liberties these girls take with paying customers but I really don’t like to be interrupted by mobiles on the job.

I had a nice enough chat afterwards though. She said that since the introduction of the Euro business has been bad as prices all over had gone up and that paying customers were thinner on the ground, and it would be about 5 years before the whole thing balanced out again to become better value, by which time she hoped not to be in the job.

It wasn’t too bad a first time back in Amsterdam. I could now look forward to a few value for money lays. I perhaps wouldn’t have chosen Sarah with the benefit of hindsight. Although a nice girl and pleasant person I should have noticed the rather bored demeanour as I passed by instead of leaping in and letting my dick rule my head. However the first one is only to drain the bilge tanks prior to the real plundering.

I‘ll post my other experiences later on.

Quimrod

03-30-04, 22:59

Spent the evening around the Walletjes on Weds 24th despite earlier having located the RLD’s in de Pijp and Singel – both of which didn’t have that much on offer. So much more variety in the main RLD, despite the increased amount of empty kamers on last year.

I’d intended to try one of the gorgeous model-ish blondes this evening, but I passed a window on the southern side of Oudekennisteeg and saw the lovely Thai girl Mon on duty. I instantly melted as I’d had her on a whim last year and been pleased with my choice. Price was the usual 50 Euros for the S&F. I negotiated the incredibly treacherously steep stairs up to her large room. She stripped off totally and proceeded to give me an excellent CBJ. Normally during this procedure I feel nothing but Mon did it with such enthusiasm and skill that it turned out a real treat. She climbed on top of me and sat on me cowgirl. It was then I’d told her that we’d met before. She was very pleased at this and she then asked me which position I’d prefer so we went mish for a while. It was good fun but as I was not 100% and a bit tired I knew it’s be an effort to cum so I chose to finish in doggy, which helps me cum a lot easier for some reason. This cost me an extra 10 Euro but was well worth it. I banged away at Mon’s cute pussy with my hands resting on top of her arse cheeks. She certainly enjoyed this position and was quite turned on, albeit briefly.

When I’d finished we chatted a bit about my last visit and the accidents she’d seen some of her clients have had when falling down the stairs! She even got a cup of water for me when I told her I was thirsty. What a considerate girl. I even got a peck on the cheek when I left. Mon was a real pleasure to be with. Not hard-nosed, considerate, chatty, relaxed and generally good-spirited.

This experience was in contrast to the one I had a couple of hours later when I chose an average-looking Dutch girl called Lisa at the very northern and last kamer on the east side of the Oudezijds Achterburgwal. I agreed the usual 50 Euro S&F on the door then climbed two flights of stairs up to quite a large room at the front of the building. As I handed over the cash she started to give me a hard sell, saying that for an extra 25 Euro I could have a lot more and that I wasn’t going to get any more than the “basic service” for my money. I explained to her that I wasn’t really interested in anything else but she was trying really hard to squeeze it out of me. She was turning round and rubbing her bum in my crotch and grazing my dick with her fingers. This might sound like not much of a nightmare, but she was being really pushy when I’d already made the deal on the door and had handed over the 50 Euro. It pissed me off a bit. For a brief while I thought I wasn’t going to get anything for my money but she eventually acquiesced when I continually pleaded poverty. I requested doggy as my one position just before we began and she said that would be extra. Surprise fucking surprise.

We started the F&S which was OK but a little coloured for me by the gratuitous hard sell before we started. There was a long mirror by the side of the bed so I could watch myself heaving away on her. Frankly I looked at my reflection and found myself a real turn-off. I had the facial expression of someone who would really be in a bar down the street. This decreased my ardour yet further and I pounded away in mish for a while, well, ages actually, so she suggested “you want wanky”, which I thought a good idea. I was never going to cum in that position. I was still off-colour and a little drained from my experience with Mon. She tugged on my dick whilst massaging my balls and I finished, but it had been a struggle.

There was no cosy Mon-style chat with Lisa. She was all business once I’d finished and not that keen on my questions, so I pulled on the threads double quick and got out of there. Things were civil but hardly comfortable. I don’t expect all the girls to be like Mon, but a little less pushiness would go a long way to make things a more relaxed all round.

Steve Naive

03-31-04, 17:31

I’m providing a summary report, based on, quoted from, summarized from recent reports on this forum, and somewhat on my own experiences. I have tried to provide info for newbies that isn’t often given.

NOTE TO REGULARS: please give enough specific info for newbies like me to find places, and the hours. Feel free to offer corrections to this report. It would be great if some local expert would write a more complete “FAQs of Life” introduction.

Options in Amsterdam include RLDs (Red Light Districts), private houses (privehuis), clubs, and escorts. The newspaper is probably a source of info. Non-pro is always an option if you get lucky. I have summarized info on RLDs and discussed one privehuis. You’ll find info on clubs, escorts, etc in the earlier postings. This forum has separate areas for private houses and window girls (RLDs).

RED LIGHT DISTRICTS (RLDs)
see http://www.rld-info.com for good maps; how good the other info there is not known.

When negotiating price, it’s worth asking whether she will be naked. Reported: in de Walletjes (and sometimes Singel) they don’t want to remove their top. Prices vary: reported 35-50 Euro, better looking ladies can command a higher price. "Quickie" experience. Mostly transient out of town providers in city center, some in De Pijp looked like they may be Dutch. Not confirmed: you can find some open for business by 10.00am, and as late as 2.00am.

de Walletjes is the main red light district. Crowded with non-customer tourists. Opinions vary on quality – some say the best-looking women are here, others say they look old and tired and will hurry you. Location: near the Dam, in the direction of Nieuwmarkt, bounded to the south by corner of Warmoesstraat/Dam Straat and Kloveniers Burgwal/Oude Hoogstraat. Head down Dam Straat and you’ll eventually get to Oude Hoogstraat (the street changes names).

Singel – various streets near Singel canal at Kortejesp, see map at Web site above for details. Around 4pm I found several available window ladies, none to die for, not terribly young, but probably ok.

De Pijp – south of the city center along Ruysdealkade at Govert Flinkstraat, as well as other locations a few blocks away, see map at Web site above for details. Around 5pm I found a few on Ruysdealkade, a bit better than at Singel. One petite blonde, good looking, great figure, but I was put off by the cigarette she was smoking.

PRIVATE HOUSE/PRIVEHUIS

Park 118 address: Sarphatiapark 118, hours 10am-2am (but that means you have to leave by 2am). Shift change reported as 4pm. The main street name is "Ceintuur Baan", but it changes to Sarphatiapark only along the park. Park 118 is on the opposite side of Sarphatiapark street from the park and has a slightly larger number on the doorway; when I visited it was a black-painted brick unit among the red-brick units. Easy to find by watching street numbers. It’s close enough to De Pijp that you can have a look there as well.

Tram: line 3 or 25 to Helstraat or Sarphatiapark. (“as you get off tram 25, turn away from Sarphia Park and these are the buildings you are looking for”)
Cab: 11-15 Euro from Central Station.
Walk: at least 45 minutes from Central Station.

Prices quoted to me: 1/2 hour is 50 Euros, 1 hour 75 Euros; I was there at 6pm. Prices reported elsewhere vary from my experience, may depend on time of day etc. Shower was not in the room I got, but in the hall, shared; I’ve heard some rooms have a shower or hot tub at extra charge. My basement room smelled somewhat of sulfur (like a hot spring, but not bad).

When you ring the door bell, you are greeted at the door by the hostess. She will seat you in a room and tell you prices. The girls come into the room, shake your hand, introduce themselves. You choose one, she takes you to a room, you pay her, and she goes to get you a drink. My experience was a friendly conversation with a local girl, followed by sex, for the one hour I asked for. There were but two girls to choose from when I visited at 6pm; others have reported more at later times. It’s not clear how many others were in already session; at least one was. See also my report on “Sarah” (coming soon).

Steve Naive

04-01-04, 20:40

I visited Park 118 recently around 6pm on a Saturday (for more info see my recent posting). Only two ladies were introduced, both apparently local Dutch girls. I don't know how many rooms they have, or how many were already in use - perhaps they were busy, but it didn't seem so.

Sarah was a long tall drink of water, a willowy blonde in blue jeans that she seemed to be poured into. Her face was neither beautiful nor hard to look at, and her relaxed smile made her charming - a regular Dutch girl who grew up in Amsterdam. Very slim, but not skinny. Nice shape. Healthy. While she is not largely endowed, I found her very attractive, so I opted for a leisurely hour for E75. (As is often the case, the hour was up when the main event and my shower was over, about 10 minutes short but it was ok since I was satisfied.)

We chatted for awhile to start. Comfortable and friendly. She told me she had just arrived for work, and had not had a chance to change into her working clothes - a short skirt. I think I would have liked her more the way I found her, and told her so. It seemed that she could have used a shower, which I didn't tell her, but perhaps should have; she smelled a bit sweaty but not dirty. BTW showers are solo because the stall is too small for two to get clean, and there was no shower in the room, so you have to wear a robe.)

Sarah was friendly but not GFE. Cuddling and some kissing on lips was ok but not DFK, which she said was "too intimate". She allowed me to undress and caress her - fun given the tight jeans. I enjoyed touching her in a lot of places (in front, but not in back, which I didn't try, I sensed it would not be welcome).

She didn't rush me (after paying for an hour I would have been unhappy if she had), and gave one of the nicest CBJs I've ever had: tight attention paid to the little fireman's helmet with her lips, although he wasn't ready to put out the fire, so we moved on. After several positions, I just wasn't going to pop, despite the pleasure involved (would have been better if she had used a bit of KY, I should have asked). I asked her to finish me with her hand - which she offered to do without the condom, and which she did very well.

Overall I was satisfied with Park 118 and pleased with Sarah. The place seems relaxed. Sarah works there because she chooses to work there to supplement the income from her regular job. My experience seems to be in line with what others have reported in past postings, and thank-you gentlemen, for telling me about this place.

Iseeu

04-01-04, 23:19

Visit to Walletjes, Park 118, SamePlace and Paradise

Haven't been able to post this report from Amsterdam from the beginning of the month . Spent 3 nights and each night planned a different sort of adventure. I love this town; there's a great vibe and excitement from the people who have this great attitude towards other people and a live and a live and let live attitude which is always refereshing to experience again. This is all besides that it's genuinely one of the most culturally rich and beautiful cities in the world, and has one of the best nightlife scenes anywhere. I love coming back to Am-dam and luckily I recently had 2 biz trips there within a month. On one of them I was free all 3 evenings so I had a chance to once again enjoy some of the pleasures that Am-dam has to offer.

The plan: Tues.evening – smokes with my local bud, followed by an RLD choice.
Weds. Evening - Park 118 followed by SamePlace swingers bar.
Thurs. – gang bang night at Paradise.

RLD – Guys, the secret to a good RLD experience, like all other transactions, is research. I've been there many times and unless you're a glutton for punishment and don't mind lackluster service, you can't go in there, walk aimlessly and expect to have a sublime experience. The sheer quantity together with the generally poor circumstances to chose a partner and have the right rapport instantly is impossible without getting for yourself a headstart-
Follow the discussion and rating system on ignatz's authoritative site and you can't go wrong. It includes maps, reviews from previous punters and excellent descriptions. Having enjoyed an occasional Polish woman, I chose the luscious Anna, a buxom Polish women with fabulous attitude and curves that never end. When I arrived at her kamer the curtain was drawn – smoked and waited with 2 other guys who it turned are regular customers. Not wanting to wait outside for 2 more session, I started to check my notes on my PDA for an alternative. When the door opened and she saw the line , she asked who was first. When she heard my English I realized that I was a "tourist" she asked where I had heard of her. After I told her and mentioned the name of one of her recommenders, she asked the other guys if they minded letting me in first "because I had a plane to catch" !!! I loved it, the humor, the attitude, and the grabs of flesh. Promised her 180 for 1 hour and 300 for 2 if she decided that she wanted me to stay for the extra hour.
Her body is heaven on earth, lots of places to get lost in and she loves to have fun. We rolled around for awhile and somehow ( must have been the hash) I lasted for a half hour of this… talked about my trip to Warsaw a couple for years ago and when I told her that I had Polish ancestors she began telling "Polack "jokes. We spoke for awhile and she began to see if I was ready for more – I was. Altogether a fabulous time for almost 2 hours, yet when I began to pay her she insisted that I only pay for the 1st hour. I'll be a return customer. Highly recommended and definitely my best RLD experience ever.

Park 118 at Sarphatipark – I've found this over the years to be the most consistently good house, clean well maintained facility and at 70EUR an hour, perhaps the best value on the western side of the continent. Picked a dark beauty from Curacao and I'm embarrassed to admit, I can't remember her name. Good session beginning with sensual back rub that I gave her.. The sight of her raising her tight ass and keeping it there in the air so that I could gain access underneath, will remain with me for awhile.

SamePlace – swingers bar. My first time there and good thing that I took a cab to get there. Nice people running it and the concept is neat, relying on the audience getting wild and dirty with each other but on the night that I was there, 2 couples were there , and 5 single men and nothing happening. Task: try it again on a weekend.

Paradise – Been there done that and all that but the idea of a group of wild wives mixed with pros raises the blood level and engorges all sorts of organs. My previous Thurs. night there almost 2 years ago fulfilled the promise. This time, promise aside the realization of the promise seems harder to deliver on. Paradise is one of the best equipped clubs of its type with lots of rooms, swimming pool, saunas, couches, bar, TV room etc. It has everything , but like SamePlace, and any other venue like this needs the right type of audience participating. This night there were about 12 couples, but most there to observe and not actually get into it, 3 very unattractive pros, and about 20 men. Some of the couples went off by themselves, The women half of the one German couple was the life of the party dirty dancing and making herself available. I popped her and the only one of the pros who wasn't totally repulsive to me. I don't understand the management – and I've seen similar things at some of the German clubs – it's not like there's a shortage of women in Am-dam in the business. If they would pay the price for reasonably attractive women to participate in the gang bang, they would probably bring in 50 more guys and more couples. Sadly what should be an insanely erotic experience, really leaves a bad taste (pun intended).

Joecaddy

04-02-04, 04:07

Iseeu,

You are right about the Paradise Club. It is a nice place and for the most part well kept. When I was there the working pros were nothing to brag about. One would think with all the hot looking trim in Amsterdam there would be some better pickings to hire. Maybe its management’s way of keeping costs down, nevertheless with the experience I had there, I would rather spend the 50 Euro in a kamer.

Joecaddy.....

Houston

04-06-04, 06:10

Hey Iseeu,

What a great report on Ansterdam. I was glad to see somoene make a report on some of the swingers clubs there. I'll be traveling there on the 26th and looking forward to my first trip.

My wife was there two years ago and took time to go to Paradise and insists that we go back so I can enjoy it as much as she did. She had no idea it was gang bang night but she only had one night free to enjoy the herself so she took full advantage of it.

I'll be there the whole week and she will be joining me on Friday night so we'll probably hit it on Saturday night when it will be the busiest. I'll make a concerted effort to explore the club and patrons in detail so I can post a good report upon my return.

I was surprised to read your comment on the working girls in the club. I'd think they would be up against a lot of competition.

Also, I noticed you mentioned some German clubs. I was over at the German forum and chased down a few links but they were all in German. Needless to say I didn't get a whole lot of information from them. If you have the time, could you email me some information on a good swingers club, massage parlor or bars that are good for picking up some girls. Anything you care to share would be appreciated.

Carpe diem,

Randy