Lisbon

[ArtMorg88]

Hi all and thanks for the information that everyone has posted, it has been very helpful. I'm visiting Lisbon next week and I have found some ladies I'm going to try and meet thanks to the feedback from everyone here, so I will be reporting my findings good or bad when I'm done. I just have a question, is there any strip clubs worth visiting in Lisbon? And is there any strip clubs that offer extras or is there a possibility of extras at all at strip clubs? Or is it best to just stick to escortprivada. Thanks again.

[FranziSkore]

Ol. ExExpatriate and everyone. Still can't finally have a meeting with Patricia Navarro. No reply since first talking. :

" my socializing.

I start with a very affectionate and relaxing massage, depending on your hygiene, I do a natural oral, if you are in a good mood you have a second chance.

My hours are from 10 am to 22 pm, but availability is flexible. Please make an appointment 30 minutes to 1 hour in advance.

My values ​8203;are 120 One hour and 70 - 30 min.

I'm on Avenida Joo XXI at the foot of the Areeiro Metro.

Remembering that appointments are made only on the day of the appointment.

Patricia Navarro ".

So here I am tryin these early mornings "Hi, queen, could be today. " But as the rest no response. This system is quite unpractical. Will try 2 more days.

Since other girls (Mel Pires and Gaby Andrade) were also no responding and the day was running I panicked and I booked.

*Evelyn Clifford a. K. a Melissa. *.

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/melissa/511826/?list=fa1tri

I will elaborate the review later but I can say that:

- Impossible communication. Zero English (zero zero), zero Spanish. I have zero Brazilian portuguese, ok, but I don' t lie and charge.

- 30 min of waiting on the street, then super small room, zero apologizes.

- She did chat with some translator or someone did it for her (agency type).

- Services, she wrote and I asked explicit:

". Extra-ball for 1 hour service.

Reality: no kisses, not even in neck, no natural oral, and specially no extra-ball as I asked about.

Always the same trouble, even if I tried to avoid it by any means! Only 25 min after payed for 1 hour.

Positive:

Spectacular body and face. Sporty, tanned, superfitted and hard, abs, muscles, perfect proportions. As good as photos. Looks even younger. At least I started with a deep massage in her, with good response with lots of deep fingering. So I mapped from head to toe. That was very good. At least body language. 15 min. Then some titfuck, 3 minutes oral (covered. By surprise) . She started to act not so friendly, too mechanical and impatient to finish and not about getting pleasure. I asked to keep slow and sensual. I was overexcited, but, damn, also her vagina was pure power, superhot, tight and muscle but she did ride me wilder. So I did cum. Party is over, go home boy. Tried to negociate to stay, cuddling or whatever but NO mercy. A bummer.

Started wondering if I have some premature problems (happened to me 50- 50 times with escorts.).

WHATEVER. Anyway:

Please help, amigos. Need one with good English or Spanish (much better option) and TRUSTABLE with services and times and attitude. Don't want same issues. And will book only 30 m and, if good, 30 m more. Incall.

Sara Valente told me only outcall.

Eva Sanchez replied but, seems mixing languages, like the other:

"Si en Avenida de Roma. 30 min /80 1 h /150 oral, vaginal, bano a dos e massaje" (sounds quite mechanical.

https://www.apartadox.com/es/acompanante-lujo-eva-sanchez-2320

He marks 4 languages. :/ As she is Portuguese maybe can be better, more education, than cariocas.

Any experience from some from abroad? With her or others.

Specially with the cum + go home shit?

Sorry for the extension. Needed to tell someone.

[ExExpatriate]

Having read about the strip and sex clubs from the locals for years, I chose to bypass them completely. Taking a girl back to your room is as expensive or more expensive than asking a primarily incall girl to do outcall. And that is just the gilding on top of door charge and overpriced drinks.

Unless you enjoy the format enough that you don't mind paying for the privilege, skip it.


Hi all and thanks for the information that everyone has posted, it has been very helpful. I'm visiting Lisbon next week and I have found some ladies I'm going to try and meet thanks to the feedback from everyone here, so I will be reporting my findings good or bad when I'm done. I just have a question, is there any strip clubs worth visiting in Lisbon? And is there any strip clubs that offer extras or is there a possibility of extras at all at strip clubs? Or is it best to just stick to escortprivada. Thanks again.

[Harry1217]

The Canadian reviewer chose to place his positive (8/10 score) review of Soraia Albuquerque on the local board, and true to form someone has immediately commented to claim that it's self-promotion and the review should be dismissed!!

Aside from the cynicism, the board is heavily moderated and very strict on criteria for both reviews and other things. They also regularly delete a number of comments, for example Rebeca Diniz had some negative comments about her deleted prior to the flurry of positive reviews.

On the Canadian forum the reviewer even ranked each of the girls he saw, in different categories, and Soraia was generally ranked in the middle. However, he has only chosen to place Soraia's review on the local board. If the local board members were aware of that, the page may crash with the number of doubting comments!


Thanks. I contacted Rebeca and she confirmed that she charges 50 per hour more for the outcalls. Anything up to a 30 e rate difference, I wouldn't even think about it. 50 is a figure which seems to hit my decision making nodes. Appreciate others have different considerations.

I can understand the Canadian reviewer liking Joana Montenegro, based on other reviews. She is also another who I've wanted to see but schedules never matched when I was in Lisbon last time. She only had availability after 9 pm for several days on end.

The Canadian reviewer also refers to Soraia Albuquerque as having "one of, if not the best, natural body I have ever seen on a woman". That was a reminder to me about everyone having different tastes and seeing things differently!

[Mongerer88]

The Canadian reviewer chose to place his positive (8/10 score) review of Soraia Albuquerque on the local board, and true to form someone has immediately commented to claim that it's self-promotion and the review should be dismissed!!

Aside from the cynicism, the board is heavily moderated and very strict on criteria for both reviews and other things. They also regularly delete a number of comments, for example Rebeca Diniz had some negative comments about her deleted prior to the flurry of positive reviews.

On the Canadian forum the reviewer even ranked each of the girls he saw, in different categories, and Soraia was generally ranked in the middle. However, he has only chosen to place Soraia's review on the local board. If the local board members were aware of that, the page may crash with the number of doubting comments!I think it is a pricing thing.

As I said previously, when I asked Sara Valente once about the local board she said a lot of the negative reviews are fake.

She actually worked independently in her very early 20's under a different name before joining EP and was the little princess in her first few reviews at the very old price structure almost a decade ago at the 70/120 euro range, but when she joined EP at the 150 per hour mark, the reviews there changed.

It is really the same with Kelly Morais. As I mentioned before, he said she was one of the best escorts he has ever been with and I very much trust his opinion. But her rates are a little bit higher than the 70/120 incall that many locals want to draw a line in the sand on, so they call her fat. The only thing fat on her apparently are her large breasts.

Of course it is the same story with Caroline Belmont, although the criticism of her being one and done for an hour block is warranted. But she is exceptionally foreigner friendly, which some of the guys on that board don't like.

I don't remember the negative comments about Rebeca Diniz, but it had to be related to pricing. Her 250 incall, 300 outcall for an hour and a half is a little bit higher than "standard". It was certainly worth it to me, but if she started at that pricing, I suspect some of the locals on that board objected. She is a good businesswoman who wants repeat customers and referrals. She even told me she has regulars (likely retirees) and arranges her schedule to go see them. See'Mon., she can't cover the cost of traveling unless she charges them a reasonable amount. And if they can retire abroad, they have some money.

It is the oldest story in the world. If prices never increase, you don't get new talent, particularly young talent. If the price of every lady is the same, there is less motivation to perform. We see it here on ISG in the German FKK forum. Some guys want 50 euro BBBJ included prices, then complain if the only ladies offering it are old, unmotivated hags.

The damndest thing is that there is no country in mainland Europe that is friendlier than Portugal in terms of giving better service to foreigners and switching automatically to English when speaking at restaurants, hotels, and shops. So a few guys on that local board who don't want prices to increase during an entire decade and don't like it when an escort markets herself to tourists as well as to locals aren't indicative of the country itself.

[ArtMorg88]

Having read about the strip and sex clubs from the locals for years, I chose to bypass them completely. Taking a girl back to your room is as expensive or more expensive than asking a primarily incall girl to do outcall. And that is just the gilding on top of door charge and overpriced drinks.

Unless you enjoy the format enough that you don't mind paying for the privilege, skip it.Thanks for the reply. I think I will take your advice and skip them and just focus on incall or outcall. I have just a couple of questions for anyone. I am new to this, and I'm just wondering if I have someone visit my hotel for an outcall do I meet them in the hotel lobby or bar, or do I just give them my room number and wait for them there? Also do I pay before or after the deed is done? I've punted a couple of times in the UK and have always paid upfront, just wondering what's acceptable in Lisbon.

I'd like to thank everyone on here again, I have gathered so many names of girls I'd like to see thanks to the feedback. Much appreciated.

[ExExpatriate]

The local board has an above average proportion of at ssholes in residence. And the admins / mods have a crap attitude. It's why I stopped participating ages ago.

Generally speaking, even the best girls hate that board and the regulars on it. I don't know that most of the bad reviews are fake, but I believe there are just as many fake negative reviews written by vengeful johns as there are fake positives written by escorts. And God forbid if you are a newbie and write a positive review on your first outing or if you are a foreigner and have anything less than perfect, Luso-style Portuguese.

At ssholes. Really.

But, those at ssholes are still the best single source of information on their particular scene. You just need to be mindful of their particular flaws.

[ExExpatriate]

Thanks for the reply. I think I will take your advice and skip them and just focus on incall or outcall. I have just a couple of questions for anyone. I am new to this, and I'm just wondering if I have someone visit my hotel for an outcall do I meet them in the hotel lobby or bar, or do I just give them my room number and wait for them there? Also do I pay before or after the deed is done? I've punted a couple of times in the UK and have always paid upfront, just wondering what's acceptable in Lisbon When to pay is up to the lady in question. Usually it is done after, but some want it upfront. The latter doesn't necessarily mean anything betond their preference. I typically leave the money in sight and out on a tabletop, under a cup, so it can be retrieved discretely later. But because of that, I've had outcall girls leave TWICE having forgot their fee. Haha!

I've had to message them to come back and meet them on my own way out. Because I'm honest that way, which they appreciated. And showed me as much next time around.

Now, how outcall works depends on the elevator of your hotel. If the elevator is keycard locked, you meet her in the lobby. She may be there or waiting just outside. If the elevator is unlocked, she will come straight to your door. Portugal is relaxed about that. Nobody will bother her or you.

Incall escorts typically have their studios in ordinary office and apartment buildings. So, you'll be told an approximate address. When you arrive, you'll be told the specifics and buzzed in. When you get to the right floor, she'll be waiting behind a slightly open door.

[ArtMorg88]

When to pay is up to the lady in question. Usually it is done after, but some want it upfront. The latter doesn't necessarily mean anything betond their preference. I typically leave the money in sight and out on a tabletop, under a cup, so it can be retrieved discretely later. But because of that, I've had outcall girls leave TWICE having forgot their fee. Haha!

I've had to message them to come back and meet them on my own way out. Because I'm honest that way, which they appreciated. And showed me as much next time around.

Now, how outcall works depends on the elevator of your hotel. If the elevator is keycard locked, you meet her in the lobby. She may be there or waiting just outside. If the elevator is unlocked, she will come straight to your door. Portugal is relaxed about that. Nobody will bother her or you.

Incall escorts typically have their studios in ordinary office and apartment buildings. So, you'll be told an approximate address. When you arrive, you'll be told the specifics and buzzed in. When you get to the right floor, she'll be waiting behind a slightly open door.Thanks again sir, much appreciated. Yeah I definitely would of done the same in your situation, the girl has worked for that money.

I have been reading back on some older posts in the thread, and I came across you talking about Isis. Massage is not something I thought about too much, but this girl sounds intriguing going off what you and others have said. I have messaged her to hopefully arrange a date and time.

[ShinyCrazy]

Complete Idiot's Guide to Lisbon.

After reading the last 50 pages of the forum, I compiled a list of possible girls. I received some very helpful feedback from ISG members and even some contact details for a well-reviewed girl who doesn't advertise anymore. Since you can't guarantee that a specific girl will be available on a specific day, I created a long list with backup options. Most of the action in Lisbon (and Portugal in general) is independent escorts that advertise on two primary websites, Escort Privada and Apartadox. The girls on Escort Privada go to your hotel and charge 150 Euros per hour which usually includes DFK and BBBJ / CIM. The girls on Apartadox are a little cheaper at 120 Euros per hour and work out of "trick pads" or their own apartment. The Apartadox girls seem to have a shorter workday, often ending by 6 pm. That makes daytime tourism activities more difficult. Most Escort Privada girls were able to come to my hotel at 8 pm for 2 hours, which worked better with my schedule.

Here is my list of GOOD girls most of whom speak English, with at least one positive review somewhere, and girls with multiple * are girls that had many positive reviews:

*Flora Neves.

*Becky Rebeca Diniz.

*Camila Pereira fluent english smoker.

*Margarida Vaz.

*Irina Melo.

*Eva Branco.

*Joana Montenegro.

*Bela Soares.

*Kelly Morais.

*Sara valente.

*Debora Dias.

Sasha Fire.

*Aurora Alfaiate.

*Marta Castro.

*Soraia Albuquerque.

*Luna Cardoso.

*Adriana Santos.

*Marcela Moniz NO English.

Bia Santos NO English.

Carolina Belmont.

Tati Bernardi.

Amalia Leal.

Isabella Fiorentini.

Andreia Martins NO English.

Vanessa Morais.

Maju Rossi NO English.

I booked a hotel near Rossio train station and used Uber or walked everywhere. I had no problem with having girls as guests to my room. I never received a call from the front desk or any complaints, unlike some destinations in the Latin American world. All of the Escort Privada girls wanted me to send a picture of my "check-in card" from the hotel, the one that lists the dates of your stay and the room number. I took a picture and cropped it to remove my real name, then sent it. All communication was via WhatsApp. The EP girls were mostly very prompt. One girl was late by about 15 minutes, but she didn't try to leave before the end of the full 2 hour appointment.

Most Uber rides were 4-6 Euros to most destinations in the city. The roads are windy and steep and the traffic is slow, so if you plan to use Apartadox and see girls in their apartments, make sure you give yourself enough travel time. Unlike Barcelona or New York, for example, I didn't really see many gorgeous women walking around. The working girls in Lisbon were attractive, but not runway models. Maybe the better looking women live near the beach.

Lisbon is great for a guy traveling alone. It would be difficult if you were traveling with a wingman, since the best venue in Lisbon (independent escorts) aren't a shared experience like agogos in Thailand or FKK clubs in Germany. Even the brothels in Spain work better than Lisbon for a trip with a buddy.

The independent escorts of Lisbon don't usually show their faces in their ads, so the moment that you open your hotel door can be nerve-wracking. I was always worried that the girl would be a real dog, but thankfully never had that experience. These seem to be mostly the "girl next door" types who are doing sex work on the side. Most of them probably only see one client a day a few days a week. From what I've read, this low mileage approach is similar to Seeking. The girls are less jaded, less mechanical, and more "real", which I really liked.

Other than scouring EP and Apartadox, you should also use Google translate to read the local review board. I could not find a search function and you have to register (for free) in order to read reviews, but it was otherwise fairly easy to navigate. Most of the local guys have a tight budget and prefer short appointments in trick pads, thus avoiding the cost of a hotel room. It appears that the Escort Privada girls are really targeting the upscale international traveler who has already incurred the cost of a hotel. My goal was to find younger slimmer natural girls without silicone or tattoos who provide the "college girlfriend experience" with DFK / BBBJ / CIM who spoke English. That narrowed down my search pretty dramatically. If you compare Escorts Privada to Apartadox, EP has a fairly small stable of girls. Apartadox has tons. I was willing to pay the 30 Euro premium for Escorts Privada so that the girls would come to my hotel. If I were on a tighter budget or wanted a wider variety of girls, I would turn my attention to Apartadox. If I were in Lisbon for a few weeks, I would run out of new options on EP.

The local board:

http://gp-pt.net/

More important than finding girls that are good, make sure you avoid the bad girls. I was fortunate that my research paid off and none of my girls were disasters. Here is a list I compiled from reading many reviews.

BAD Girls to AVOID:

Sofia Andrade.

Giovana Bragana.

Bianca Brandao worst BBBJ ever.

Jade Bueno.

Rita Campos.

Catarina Fortes.

Vanessa Figueriredo.

Barbara Gouveia.

Monica Vera Guerra.

Tita Impanema.

Frederica Lima.

Lara Lima.

Samanta Lima.

Monica Melo.

Mafalda Melo.

Julia Nobrega.

Debora Pires.

Diana Real.

Matilde Ribeiro.

Anita Rocha.

Catarina Rodriguez.

Rafeala de Sa.

Olivia Sampaio.

Eva Santos.

Angelica Silva.

Iris Simoes.

Tatiana Souza.

Mia Tavares.

Mia Verissimo.

Catarina Rodriguez bad breath.

Maria Conceicao herpes.

Links to the top "photo verified" sites:

https://www.apartadox.com/en/escort-classifieds-Lisbon-Portugal

https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/

https://docemassagem.com

https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino

https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhantes/Portugal

My reviews:

Aurora Alfaiate: 24 yo slim part European Portuguese and part Cape Verdean with delicate cafe au lait features and fluffy curly long dark hair. Holding her hair in my hands was like holding lambs wool, it was so soft and fluffy. She has a half dozen small tattoos and perfectly shaped small breasts. Her pictures are accurate, but the tattoos have been photoshopped out. She has a slim but shapely petite feminine body. She is not overtly muscular. She is fit and trim. Fully shaved below with full inner labia visible peeking out from between her outer labia. Her ass cheeks fit perfectly in your hand, the curve of her ass is basically perfect. She has some mild to moderate acne scars on her cheeks, which might bother some guys but I barely noticed it because her other features were so pleasing. She responded to DATY, but I could not get her over the line to achieve orgasm despite trying with enthusiasm. No tongue with kissing, which was a bit of a disappointment. Mostly just dry kisses without passion. She speaks English very well. I had to explain an unusual English word to her, but her language ability was quite good. She was fairly quiet and a little awkward in the beginning of our meeting and I think she would be more successful and personally engaged as an escort if she started each of her appointments with a ten minute "meet and greet", maybe have a drink or coffee at a bar before going up the the room. She seems to need that introduction time to feel comfortable, which is entirely understandable, but hard to justify paying for as the client. Having said that, if escorts didn't charge crazy money for "social" meetings, I would be inclined to meet all new escorts in a cafe or bar near my hotel for a few minutes and would be willing to pay a little for that. Per my desire, we had one round of mish, one round of BBBJ / CIM, and one final round of mish. Her BBBJ was occasionally toothy but mostly pretty good. She tried to DT but never made it all the way. I don't think she knows the trick to actually DT for real. She did take my load without pulling away and stayed with me until I was finished and relaxing. She then stood up and headed to the bathroom to wash out her mouth. She was fairly passive overall, which wasn't a major problem for me. I did not ask for anal. I did not ask for multiple positions, since she was very open and took me all the way deep in mish. I felt like I didn't need any other positions, since mish was so deep and complete. This was a 2 hour appointment and she stayed basically the entire time with no clock watching. 150 Euro per hour and she came directly to my hotel room. She was very discreet on arrival. She checked her phone once when I was showering. Otherwise, she was focused on having sex. All in all, it was a positive experience. My recommendations for improvement would be: kisses with tongue and taking the lead occasionally and learning the trick for deep throating.

Becky Diniz mid 20's slim part European Portuguese and part Angolan with cafe au lait skin. Like many working girls her age she has a few tattoos, but they weren't too distracting (and I hate tattoos). She has medium sized breasts with responsive nipples. Her english is good. It was seemless to have a conversation with her. She was dressed in a revealing reddish velvet slingshot thong and nothing else. 150 Euro per hour. I spent two hours with her. She charges an extra 50 E per hour (200 Euro per hour total) to go to your hotel and she doesn't advertise. I chose to save 100 Euro and instead spend 5 Euro on Uber. I was given her name and number by a generous member of ISG. She works in a trick pad near Campo Pequeno. She sent me the address via WhatsApp, then when I was downstairs, she sent the apartment number and buzzed me in. The room and shower were clean and tidy with fresh towels. We started with some kissing in the room and then I undressed and headed to the shower. She followed with her own shower after me. I started by softly and slowly stroking her body everywhere, which she really seemed to enjoy, then moved eventually to DATY which she rode to the finish line, then put on a condom and I moved to mish. She used her fingers to stroke herself and came a second time, then I finished for the first time in mish. Chatted for awhile. She mentioned that she really liked my slow gentle pacing. Many guys just want to jack rabbit to the finish, but I like the slow burn build up. It makes the finish line more satisfying. She strongly agreed. Becky is pleasant and well traveled. She showed me the perfume she brought back from Paris. She gave recommendations for restaurants and shopping in Lisbon. For round two, she started with lightly rimming me and BBBJ with DT, then whipped out a butt plug to try on me and combined that with BBBJ. I enjoyed that until I was ready for a condom. She directed me to some nice reverse cowgirl and then I switched is over to mish for the finish. Again, I didn't bother to ask for anal, since that is only of passing interest to me. I have heard that she offers anal. Overall, another very good experience with better kissing than Aurora but similar sex, similar body type, and similar physical connection. I don't think I could give Becky any recommendations for improvement other than maybe more tongue for DFK. I understand that for many girls, that is tough to offer, but when you find one who does, it really makes the experience amazingly good. She was pretty much on point for everything else. I think your individual experience would just depend on whether you found her body type (mixed race spinner) and personality appealing, but I can't really imagine anyone having a bad experience with Becky. She was a very good fit for me.

Eva Branco early 20's. European Portuguese with very pale skin and lots of enticing freckles, curvy but not fat, with gorgeous large breasts. She has an engaging smile and connected with me from the start. Her pictures are accurate except for a few tattoos, but they were not distracting. Shaved down below, and definitely more curvy than the first two slim girls, Aurora and Becky. By fat American standards, Eva is thin, but by European standards she is voluptuous. Either way, she has a gorgeous body and even nicer face and smile. We had both had showers only minutes before meeting, so we jumped into undressing and skipped a pre-sex shower. I enjoyed undressing her slowly and finally unveiling those perfect large natural breasts. She was wearing black bra and g string underwear underneath her very conservative and nondescript street clothes. Moved down to DATY and she was already wet and saline. Booked for 2 hours and paced myself by spending plenty of time in DATY. She is one of those girls who linger near orgasm for a long time. You are convinced that she is right about to come, then minutes go by and you start to wonder if maybe she already did come, then she starts shuddering again. Eventually, I was ready to move on to the main course, but still not sure if she came. I wanted 3 shots in 2 hours, so I had to limit how much time I spent on getting her over the finish line. I finished in mish, had a shower, and chatted with her. Her English is near perfect and she is an educated and intelligent young woman. I rinsed off from round one. We proceeded to BBBJ / CIM and she stayed with me all the way to the end and beyond. She didn't rush to the sink. In fact, I think she just quietly swallowed it. Then we eventually moved to round three with mish again. Of all of the girls I saw in Lisbon, she was the closest to my ideal of "the college girlfriend". She kissed lightly at first, and intensely by the end, with tongue and breathless enthusiasm. She has a "warm fresh baked bread" smell and taste to her skin that I have encountered in girls before. Very pleasant and made me want to wrap myself around her. She took mish as deep as possible and had more than a handful of ass to hold onto. If you like just a little more voluptuous girl and you want young and natural, Eva is your girl. Again, she is absolutely not fat. I lose my erection immediately from fat girls. I think that Eva is still not jaded or cynical. If you are sincere with her and connect with her as a fellow human being, she responds with enthusiasm. I got the impression that she enjoyed our time and was riding a little high and maybe even feeling some emotional confusion, since I wasn't the usual 30 minute pump and dump client, but connecting more like a boyfriend or a first date. What a wonderful girl she is. A real gem. She told me where she worked and invited me to visit her there, which I did later in the week. There was something very hot about seeing her in normal life in her normal clothes performing her job, knowing that we had a special secret together.

Bela Soares 21 yo European Portuguese with cornrow braids and blonde hair (unlike her photos on EP). Great kisser. Very appealing medium size breasts with no tattoos anywhere on her body that I noticed. She must be the only girl under 30 without tattoos in Portugal, or Europe in general for that matter. I don't understand why. I'll be very glad when the obsession with scribbling on beautiful female bodies is over. Bela has robust thick thighs with quite the ass and lots of freckles on her back. Shaved down below, although she had a little stubble which I wasn't fond of. She also had some stubble on her legs below her knees. That made stroking her legs a little less fun. She seemed a tad serious overall at first, but then quickly warmed up to me. She is a college student and came to my hotel right from her classes. I joked with her about my "college girlfriend" fantasies. She fulfills them, just like Eva Branco. Being an old guy having sex with college aged girls is like having a time machine that takes you back to the sexiest time of your life. There is basically nothing better in the world. Bela kissed with enthusiasm and passion and responded with orgasm to my DATY. She wore bright red lipstick which ended up all over both of our faces. She had offered to remove it, but I kinda enjoyed the disarray of lipstick marks and smeared pinkish cheeks. Eventually went three rounds of full service with her. She gave a very good BBBJ and was willing to do CIM, but her mish and doggy was too good for me to finish in her mouth. Instead, I saved all three rounds for the main course, covered full service. Between sessions, she chatted about her difficult childhood and her plans for the future. She is a determined and admirable young woman and is planning to change the world for the better, and given my experience with her, I am confident she will succeed. She doesn't want anyone to have the same crummy childhood experiences that she did, and she wants Portugal to take better care of the elderly. She plans to make fixing these problems her life work. She is beautiful inside and out. She was a pleasure to chat with. Her English was perfectly fine. I would occasionally have to ask her to repeat herself until I understood her pronunciation, but that was very minor. Bela is not a spinner with a tiny ass. She has curves and some thick thighs. Again, I don't mean that in a bad way. She was not remotely fat, just voluptuous. Her ass felt great in my hands as I entered her in mish. She was very proud of how "hot" her vagina could get. She was right. It was her superpower. She was also plenty wet and DATY was a slippery saline hot mouthful. Two hours went by quickly. I could have easily spent more time with her. Another real gem.

Filipa Marques. Mid 20's. Very slim with quite a few tattoos, unfortunately, but none on her chest or ass, thank goodness. She has very sleepy eyes, delicate features, and speaks English with a funny accent. She has small breasts to match her petite physique. She has curly blonde-brown shoulder length hair and a very very subtle smell of smoking. When I contacted her via WhatsApp, she immediately asked if I wanted her to bring a girlfriend. I declined, but thought other ISG members might find that useful info. She was a big kisser right from the start with plenty of tongue and passion. She was a little sweaty from the weather outside, so after undressing, we headed straight to the shower. She was wearing black bra and thong. Like most women with small breasts, she works a lot harder to set the sexy tone of the encounter with stroking and exploring and heavy breathing, unlike a girl with spectacular large breasts who sits and passively watches you worship her body. We moved to DATY, when I noticed a large lumpy tag of skin near her anus. Worried that it might be something serious, I asked her about it. Turns out it has been there since birth and her doctor told her to ignore it. I tried to do the same. She was shaved completely down below and had the tiniest clitoris. I could barely find it or feel it during DATY. She started with BBBJ and does a fairly decent DT. No teeth. We then moved to covered FS and she was active and fun overall. Afterwards, we chatted about her work. She is not a college student. Given her profession, I would guess that she is in her mid to late twenties. The website said 18, which is clearly not true. I don't understand why these websites and girls lie about things like age etc. They are only creating the possibility of disappointment which will make their work less pleasant. The photos aren't accurate either. She looks like she has medium sized breasts in the photos. They are actually pretty small. Anyhow, when I was ready for round two, I told her I was in the mood for prostate massage. She did a combo of soft hands free BBBJ with prostate massage. Her baseline rate for BBBJ is a little too fast for my liking, so I had her slow down. Electrifying finish in her mouth with her fingers in my ass. Cleaned up yet again, and only had 20 minutes left in the 2 hour booking, but I was determined to get one more round squeezed in. It was a struggle to get hard quickly after two long sessions. I think she was amused and skeptical but she didn't complain and I finished one last time in mish. We had a few minutes left and took a quick shower together and I walked her out of the hotel on my way to dinner. Overall, with the tattoos and smoking and her overall presentation, she was too rough around the edges to fit my ideal of an innocent college student, but I can't fault her on service.

In summary, I had two hour appointments with 5 different girls, each costing 300 Euro total, aiming for a "college girlfriend" experience. I would happily repeat any of the 5 girls, but Eva Branco was my favorite. She is a little more voluptuous than my favorite body type, but her personality was the most compelling of the 5 girls. She was authentic and honest and connected with me exactly like a college girlfriend. I believe she was the youngest, although it is always a guess.

TL: DR.

Mongering in Lisbon is easy. Get a decent hotel. Review my list of good girls from Escort Privada. Contact the girl via WhatsApp. Enjoy.

[IsaBahn]

Complete Idiot's Guide to Lisbon.

After reading the last 50 pages of the forum, I compiled a list of possible girls. I received some very helpful feedback from ISG members and even some contact details for a well-reviewed girl who doesn't advertise anymore.....Best post ever!

[ExExpatriate]

Thanks for the review of Filipa Marques. Insofar as I know, that is new ground.

[SoftTouch]

I will soon be visiting Lisbon on a cruise ship for one day departing around 6 PM. I may have several hours in the afternoon (between say 1 PM and 4:30 PM) where I should have some free time for our favourite hobby, by incall. Unfortunately I will not know for sure until the last minute. In Barcelona, they have incall venues (eg. lasuitebcn.com/en, sugargirls.es/escorts-barcelona/, apricots.es/en/escorts-barcelona/). Google search Barcelona brothels for more) with several girls available where you can choose your lady. Perfect for my situation. Do such places exist in Lisbon? Any suggestions?

The last few pages of this forum have a great deal of excellent info on independent ladies some of whom have incall facilities. Unfortunately I cannot in all conscience make an appointment in advance as I think it is 50/50 chance I would have to cancel. Nor do I think I have the time to be messaging multiple ladies at the last minute trying to find someone who is available.

Thanks in advance for any help!

[Alex Green]

Hello guys.

Can anyone please help on my message below?

As I haven't seen any updates about the availability of Rubia, I am more inclined towards Yu Ferracini, anyone has an idea or a detailed review on her?

Thank you guys.


Good day ExExpatriate.

Thank you so much for your reply.

Perhaps I should've been more specific in my initial post, the type of girl I'm looking for doesn't have to be a ginger necessarily. Let's say I just need a woman who's nice and honest prior to the meeting on what she does / doesn't do so the session flows smoothly. Here is a short list of the fundamental criteria I'm most interested in:

- white curvy girl particularly with thick ass (not saggy though).

- incall is a must, preferably 120 per hour (can go up to 150 if no choice).

- has in particular beautiful feet as I'm a fetish guy.

- essential services: the girl has to be able to give good BJ, good kisses, receive cunnilingus and rimming.

- other practices (not a must but nice to have) : titjob & massage.

Girls who have caught my attention after doing some homework are: Yu ferracini, Lara Silva (what do you think?) & obviously Rubia M. BTW if anyone been with Rubia lately or knows if she still is available in Lisbon I would be very thankful to hear about it.

If you have any other suggestions, please share with me.

I appreciate your help. I must also add These kind of threads help so much to avoid scams.

Kind regards.

[Mongerer88]

I will soon be visiting Lisbon on a cruise ship for one day departing around 6 PM. I may have several hours in the afternoon (between say 1 PM and 4:30 PM) where I should have some free time for our favourite hobby, by incall. Unfortunately I will not know for sure until the last minute. In Barcelona, they have incall venues (eg. lasuitebcn.com/en, sugargirls.es/escorts-barcelona/, apricots.es/en/escorts-barcelona/). Google search Barcelona brothels for more) with several girls available where you can choose your lady. Perfect for my situation. Do such places exist in Lisbon? Any suggestions?

The last few pages of this forum have a great deal of excellent info on independent ladies some of whom have incall facilities. Unfortunately I cannot in all conscience make an appointment in advance as I think it is 50/50 chance I would have to cancel. Nor do I think I have the time to be messaging multiple ladies at the last minute trying to find someone who is available.

Thanks in advance for any help!Write down this address. When you go there, ask for the Relaxing Massage.

https://www.nuruspas.com/en

Reports vary. Most everyone reports getting laid there, including BBBJ, often including CIM and some guys even get anal.

There is an occasional report of someone just getting a handjob, but a good erotic handjob.

Not a bad idea to send them a WhatsApp message to let them know you are coming, but many reports say the guy just walked up and pressed the buzzer.

A lot of ladies live within 15-30 minutes of this area, so letting them know you are coming and want the Relaxing Massage might increase your chances of getting what you want.

Lisbon and Barcelona are set up a lot differently legally and culturally in terms of commercial sex work.

But Lisbon is a lot easier for the ladies to travel around than Barcelona is.

[ExExpatriate]

You have a good attitude about not wasting the ladies' time with bookings you may not be able to keep.

The first word of advice is location. Your ship will almost certainly dock in Santa Apollonia. The major concentration of incall services are had in an area loosely defined between Marques de Pombal and Entrecampos. You can get to anywhere in that zone by metro, but Santa Apollonia is the south terminus for the blue line. So, expect the ride to central Lisbon to be half an hour each way, give or take.

Do not use an Uber. You'll be cutting through narrow and or congested roads at any time of day, and it will take as long or longer while costing more.

But your other option is the interesting one, because you can just hop on an Uber / taxi and head by major thoroughfare upriver to Expo / Parque das Nacoes. There are a few well-reviewed escorts in that neighborhood, and it would probably be more convenient for you in terms of travel. It would therefore also narrow down who you might start reaching out to when you know what you can do.

The closest thing to what you describe for Barcelona are the erotic/nuru spas, but most of them are HJ-only establishments.


I will soon be visiting Lisbon on a cruise ship for one day departing around 6 PM. I may have several hours in the afternoon (between say 1 PM and 4:30 PM) where I should have some free time for our favourite hobby, by incall. Unfortunately I will not know for sure until the last minute. In Barcelona, they have incall venues (eg. lasuitebcn.com/en, sugargirls.es/escorts-barcelona/, apricots.es/en/escorts-barcelona/). Google search Barcelona brothels for more) with several girls available where you can choose your lady. Perfect for my situation. Do such places exist in Lisbon? Any suggestions?

The last few pages of this forum have a great deal of excellent info on independent ladies some of whom have incall facilities. Unfortunately I cannot in all conscience make an appointment in advance as I think it is 50/50 chance I would have to cancel. Nor do I think I have the time to be messaging multiple ladies at the last minute trying to find someone who is available.

Thanks in advance for any help!

[RobotoVoice]

Hey everyone! First time poster here!

Anyone got any info on Brenda Novaes? Link: https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-brenda-novaes-7689.

I was unable to find anything about her on this site and the local forum is a nightmare to sort through.

[Harry1217]

Have there been any recent reports either here on the local board of people getting full service there?

I've had a browse of the local board and can't find anything in the last few years, although the massage section isn't referenced too well. Perhaps some ladies are on other sites such as Apartadox and reports are therefore in the escorts sections? (I know other massage establishments with ladies on Apartadox but haven't come across any from the Nuruspa).

I went to this place myself in September and had no luck trying to get FS, however I don't think I emphasised enough the 'relaxing' massage. On reflection, I actually got a pretty bad service with a lady called Alysha, who is no longer there. I received neither an erotic massage nor any full service. She wouldn't even allow sucking her breasts!


Write down this address. When you go there, ask for the Relaxing Massage.

https://www.nuruspas.com/en

Reports vary. Most everyone reports getting laid there, including BBBJ, often including CIM and some guys even get anal.

There is an occasional report of someone just getting a handjob, but a good erotic handjob.

Not a bad idea to send them a WhatsApp message to let them know you are coming, but many reports say the guy just walked up and pressed the buzzer.

A lot of ladies live within 15-30 minutes of this area, so letting them know you are coming and want the Relaxing Massage might increase your chances of getting what you want.

Lisbon and Barcelona are set up a lot differently legally and culturally in terms of commercial sex work.

But Lisbon is a lot easier for the ladies to travel around than Barcelona is.

[Mongerer88]

Have there been any recent reports either here on the local board of people getting full service there?

I've had a browse of the local board and can't find anything in the last few years, although the massage section isn't referenced too well. Perhaps some ladies are on other sites such as Apartadox and reports are therefore in the escorts sections? (I know other massage establishments with ladies on Apartadox but haven't come across any from the Nuruspa).

I went to this place myself in September and had no luck trying to get FS, however I don't think I emphasised enough the 'relaxing' massage. On reflection, I actually got a pretty bad service with a lady called Alysha, who is no longer there. I received neither an erotic massage nor any full service. She wouldn't even allow sucking her breasts!Sorry I forgot about your negative experience there.

The place gets somewhat mixed reviews on Google, some of which are recent, because they try to be everything to everyone without running afoul of the law.

In one room, they will have someone who wants CIM and full service, while in another room they will have someone, including couples, who want a regular massage that is just a bit sexual.

So some things will fall through the cracks, as apparently it did with you.

But we won't be able to give the poster SoftTouch exactly what he wants, which is the published address of a true brothel. So I tried to get as close as possible.

ExExpatriate is correct that the best approach would be to hang out in a neighborhood where there are a lot of incalls and hope a lady is available on short notice.

However, reading between the lines, perhaps Soft Touch is traveling with companions on the cruise and is unsure of whether he will be alone to travel in Lisbon at all.

I perceived that if he gets a couple of available hours by himself, he wants to beeline it to a known address with minimum administrative inconvenience.

The Nuru Spa is one of the few places where many guys have gotten laid in the past, albeit the best reviews for full service are pretty old.

On a very limited time frame, I think going to this place while contacting them on the way to say he wants the relaxing massage (which is what was reported on the local board as the code the place gave out to know which customers wanted full service) is the best approach for him if he has very limited time and needs to hope for the best.

Not a bad idea for him to tell the massage lady that he is on a cruise with guy friends (best not to say with a wife), but has found he doesn't really like boat life. Perhaps her natural sympathy will increase her service offerings and performance. There is a legendary story of a guy during WWII who got sex almost every night with a different lady. The guy was a Navy trainer of servicemen. He told women at bars every night that he was setting sail the next morning. Which was the literal truth, although they thought he meant to the Pacific Theatre of WWII. He set sail every morning, did training, then returned to the port in the USA And worked on getting laid every night.

[Harry1217]

Yes the last reviews on the local board are very old indeed, 4 to 5 years ago from what I can see. There may have been a policy change at the Spa during that time.

When I went, the person on reception and taking telephone calls was one of the male masseurs. He was very friendly, but looked at me as if I was talking a foreign language when I said I wanted a 'relaxing' massage. I didn't push the point or even subtly explain what I meant, and he proceeded to show me a menu of the massages they do. In the room, I also didn't explicitly request any full service (I was a bit put off by the masseuse's uninspiring massage). The advice to the poster would be to find a way of emphasising he wants a 'relaxing' massage.

I also went to a place called 'Genuine Tantric' and I seem to remember subtly enquiring with the masseuse whether she would give me a blowjob, as the massage was so erotic and really giving me good vibes. Unfortunately, she said they didn't do that there! However, at least I got a great sensual massage (unlike Nuru spa). Ultimately, I consider even Genuine Tantric to be relatively poor value as it cost the same as getting an EP girl to my hotel for full service, but that's another topic.


Sorry I forgot about your negative experience there.

The Nuru Spa is one of the few places where many guys have gotten laid in the past, albeit the best reviews for full service are pretty old.

On a very limited time frame, I think going to this place while contacting them on the way to say he wants the relaxing massage (which is what was reported on the local board as the code the place gave out to know which customers wanted full service) is the best approach for him if he has very limited time and needs to hope for the best.

[ExExpatriate]

Hello guys.

Can anyone please help on my message below?

As I haven't seen any updates about the availability of Rubia, I am more inclined towards Yu Ferracini, anyone has an idea or a detailed review on her?

Thank you guys.Yu is well-liked. The type you describe isn't one I pay close attention to, but maybe Patricia Telles or Patricia Navarro?

[Alex Green]

Thanks a lot.

If I succeed in meeting one of the girls I'll make sure to contribute to help the others as well.


Yu is well-liked. The type you describe isn't one I pay close attention to, but maybe Patricia Telles or Patricia Navarro?

[Snomis85]

Marilyn Monre. Nice lady and knows how to hold a conversation but everything protected. CBJ, DATY, missionary, doggy, GFE, fingering. 1 pop and took shower together. Massage afterwards.

https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-marilyn-monre-7747

Victória Saraiva. Outcall to my airbnb for 1 hour. Required proof of address. 1 pop, owo, DATY, missionary and doggy. Kept moving into a position to prevent me from going all the way in so it took longer to release. Left 15 minutes early cause "she parked in a bad spot" and a lot of traffic going back. Would not recommend. Pics look better than in person but she did have some nice boobs.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/victoria-saraiva/

Luna Cardoso. 20 cheaper than the rest but I didn't have change so I left a tip. Best OWO I had in a while. Would recommend the next time I visit. She gives a nice massage afterwards. She was a bit far in the Entrecampos neighborhood but there is a bar on the same block where you can get $1 beer while you wait.

https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1409#topo.

SA. Met up with two that don't seem to charge ppm. One was just coffee and lunch which end up going nowhere. I met the another one for drinks and got a uber to take her home. Met her again the next night and we had some GFE fun at my Airbnb for a few hours. Totally non pro and didn't ask for anything at the end. Another one wanted 3.00 and had everything open on her menu but didn't have time to meet her.

[SoftTouch]

Thanks so much to everybody who responded to my earlier request for Cruise Ship visit help.

There was some uncertainty about Nuru Spa (https://www.nuruspas.com/en) as a FS venue. It was the easiest for me to access given the timeframe I had available so I decided to "take one for the team" and find out what is the current score there.

And score I did! I took Mongerer88's advice and messaged them ahead of time saying something like "I'm looking for 1 hour of Relaxing Massage at x: xxpm with an attractive young woman. Who is available?" No reply after 20 minutes so I again messaged to ask if anyone was available in the afternoon. I got a quick reply saying come into the spa and we will introduce you to available staff. Half an hour later (about 2 PM on a Wednesday) I was at the door and promptly let in. Again following advice, said to the receptionist that I was looking for a Relaxing Massage as I have been on a ship for two months with no women! (that's pretty close to the truth! She laughed and said. "in that case, maybe you should take two masseuses! I will have those available come and meet you. " I then asked if they were able to give Relaxing Massages. And she confirmed yes. So. I can confirm that there are some folks at the spa that know what a "Relaxing Massage" is and it seems the code words still work.

One after the other, two ladies came and introduced themselves. Both were definitely doable. I chose the more petite and interactive one (she gave me a hug. I took that as a sign from god! Her name was Ima, a 22 yo Brasilera. Looks 7.5, service 9, Attitude 9! She is really very pretty with a slim firm body. The only reason she didn't get a higher score on looks is she had silicone breasts (not my liking) although they were fairly well done see / the size, not overdone, so I quickly forgot about it after we started to kiss. I started with DATY. She was very responsive and after about 10 minutes of DATY with 2 fingers stroking her G-Spot she had an intense orgasm. I find it often helps with subsequent service. And this time was no exception!

Menu: LFK, DATY, digits, BBBJTC-not quite but almost CIM. She had two condoms with her so I am certain FS was on the menu but I was so taken with her excellent BBBJ skills I just laid back and let it rip. Wow. One of the best BBBJs I've ever had. The massage was pretty good, too. She would have continued the massage for the full hour if I hadn't cut it a bit short. She was very attentive to helping with showering and drying me off. Better than a GF!

The Nuru Spa web site has pics of the attendants and most are quite stunning (I don't know whether they are all as accommodating as my attendant was). Ima, my attendant is not in the current list as of May 3 (said she had been here in Lisboa for only a few weeks) but the other one I was introduced is on the current list. The pics of her are pretty accurate although the makeup in the pics is superb. When working the makeup is a bit more subdued.

Damage was as quoted by WhatsApp, 180 Euro per hour. I gave Ima a 20 Eu tip. While the overall cost was a bit more than some independents, for my situation it was reasonable.

My conclusion, if you can handle the price, Nuru Spa is highly recommended based on my sample of one!

I wished I had time to explore ExExpatriate's suggestion to visit Expo / Parque das Nacoes. Next time.

Thanks again to Mongerer88, ExExpatriate, Harry1217 for making my stop in Lisbon so "Relaxing"!

[RobotoVoice]

Hey guys! Came across a second Brazilian girl that peaked my interest.

Her name is Emma Roberts.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-emma-roberts-7727

Any word on her?

[Harry1217]

Many, many thanks for your report and I'm delighted that you found what you wanted.

Your report is of great value because it's been a long time since anyone produced anything substantive about this place offering a full service ('relaxing massage').

There are very few places in Lisbon where you can go and get a line-up of girls to choose from, and combine a sensual massage with full service. 180 is more than most standard incall escorts charge, but I'd be prepared to part with that if the lady could combine an erotic massage with full service.

Incidentally, I mentioned before that I saw a lady called Alysha who gave me a very poor service. There is currently an Alysha on the Nuru Spa website but it's a different lady.

This place is back on my radar, cheers SoftTouch!


Thanks so much to everybody who responded to my earlier request for Cruise Ship visit help.

There was some uncertainty about Nuru Spa (https://www.nuruspas.com/en) as a FS venue. It was the easiest for me to access given the timeframe I had available so I decided to "take one for the team" and find out what is the current score there.

And score I did! I took Mongerer88's advice and messaged them ahead of time saying something like "I'm looking for 1 hour of Relaxing Massage at x: xxpm with an attractive young woman. Who is available?" No reply after 20 minutes so I again messaged to ask if anyone was available in the afternoon. I got a quick reply saying come into the spa and we will introduce you to available staff. Half an hour later (about 2 PM on a Wednesday) I was at the door and promptly let in. Again following advice, said to the receptionist that I was looking for a Relaxing Massage as I have been on a ship for two months with no women! (that's pretty close to the truth! She laughed and said. "in that case, maybe you should take two masseuses! I will have those available come and meet you. " I then asked if they were able to give Relaxing Massages. And she confirmed yes. So. I can confirm that there are some folks at the spa that know what a "Relaxing Massage" is and it seems the code words still work.

One after the other, two ladies came and introduced themselves. Both were definitely doable. I chose the more petite and interactive one (she gave me a hug. I took that as a sign from god! Her name was Ima, a 22 yo Brasilera. Looks 7.5, service 9, Attitude 9! She is really very pretty with a slim firm body. The only reason she didn't get a higher score on looks is she had silicone breasts (not my liking) although they were fairly well done see / the size, not overdone, so I quickly forgot about it after we started to kiss. I started with DATY. She was very responsive and after about 10 minutes of DATY with 2 fingers stroking her G-Spot she had an intense orgasm. I find it often helps with subsequent service. And this time was no exception!

Menu: LFK, DATY, digits, BBBJTC-not quite but almost CIM. She had two condoms with her so I am certain FS was on the menu but I was so taken with her excellent BBBJ skills I just laid back and let it rip. Wow. One of the best BBBJs I've ever had. The massage was pretty good, too. She would have continued the massage for the full hour if I hadn't cut it a bit short. She was very attentive to helping with showering and drying me off. Better than a GF!

The Nuru Spa web site has pics of the attendants and most are quite stunning (I don't know whether they are all as accommodating as my attendant was). Ima, my attendant is not in the current list as of May 3 (said she had been here in Lisboa for only a few weeks) but the other one I was introduced is on the current list. The pics of her are pretty accurate although the makeup in the pics is superb. When working the makeup is a bit more subdued.

Damage was as quoted by WhatsApp, 180 Euro per hour. I gave Ima a 20 Eu tip. While the overall cost was a bit more than some independents, for my situation it was reasonable.

My conclusion, if you can handle the price, Nuru Spa is highly recommended based on my sample of one!

I wished I had time to explore ExExpatriate's suggestion to visit Expo / Parque das Nacoes. Next time.

Thanks again to Mongerer88, ExExpatriate, Harry1217 for making my stop in Lisbon so "Relaxing"!

[PER23]

Saw Camila for the first time yesterday. Not much to add to what other reviewers have said. I really enjoyed the booking. She looks very different from the photos. Much more athletic after losing weight, with blond hair. Her body is exactly what I like, particularly the lower half. Also much prettier than most of the EP escorts, but that's a matter of taste. The photos are way out of date so I was pleasantly surprised when she showed up.

Everything in the bedroom was as good as I've experienced with other escorts, so consider that a strong recommendation. She also has a very relaxed yet mature personality. She reads the reviews on this board and the local one, and managed to identify me by some comments I made about her "colleagues". Very smart about the business and I was impressed by that.

[PER23]

Vivian is back for a few months and I saw her after being one of her first clients last year. Unfortunately, it wasn't at the level of previous meets. Agency screwed it up by only sending her over for an hour instead of the two I requested. She's still gorgeous, with better breasts than Flora Neves but she was too aggressive during the sex. Big change from last year. Personally, I don't appreciate being slapped and bitten, so had to tell her to calm down and save that nonsense for her boyfriend. That was after she left several scratches on my arms and back.

Tentative recommendation for her beauty and BJ skills, but I won't be seeing her again.

[ExExpatriate]

PER recently posted about how the EP scuttlebutt was that Tita Ipanema was sacked for ripping off a customer (and then not sharing with the agency --FT). She is now advertising on euroescortgirls.

The Lisbon area has at least 5 photo-verified, region-specific sites all its own. Any local escort one should want to see on more global ad sites like Massage Republic or euroescortgirls is also on one of the local ad sites, so there really is no reason to look at the global ads in relation to Portugal. Keeping the local ad sites in mind, I consider it a red flag for a local to advertise on global sites and only global sites.

Heavily underlining this is the case of Pietra Kolinsky, aka ex-EP girl Giovanna Braganca. There isn't any question about who she is, since Pietra's ads use Giovanna's photoshoot + selfies. She had a lousy reputation on the local board while with EP. She has one review on both global sites, and its the verbatim review, so it is undoubtedly fake. And a local working girl skipping the local ad sites says she isn't serious about working, at best.

Adelia Blueberry is another one I was helping folks aboid last year. She ropes in suckers on Massage Republic using pictures from like 10 years ago and fake reviews. She wasn't well-regarded back when she was on Portuguese ad sites back then either. The strategy seems to be to jip the ill-informed foreigner who doesn't know where to go for good information.

Insofar as Portugal goes, stick to the Portuguese ad sites. Anyone worth seeing is there.

[ArtMorg88]

Well my trip to Lisbon is coming to an end so thought I'd post my feedback on the women I seen.

I'll start with the bad.

Aurora Alfaiate- https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/.

I had this lady come visit me at my hotel for an hour €150. Communication was quick and easy, all through WhatsApp. She showed up and I thought she was kind of cute, not a head turner but not unattractive. She speaks fairly good English so no problems there. We had a brief conversation then she started to undress, not in a seductive way just kind of awkwardly removing pieces of clothing in the corner of the room. She joins me on the bed and my hands are roaming and I asked if she kissed, she replied if you like. I tried kissing her but quickly realized that all that was on offer was some very light pecks which doesn't do anything for me so I call it quits on that. She then goes down to start the worst attempt at a blowjob I have experienced. She basically only put the tip in her mouth and made slight movements before grabbing the protection. After she'd put the condom on she gets on top and starts slowly bouncing and grinding making slight noises, it was enjoyable but nothing memorable. I decide to flip her over and have her legs on my shoulders, she seems to be getting into it a bit more now and starts rubbing herself and making a bit more noise. This is where I start to notice a bad smell. I got her bent over in the hope of at least finishing as quickly as possible but the smell was too much for me and I started going soft. I pulled out and told her I wouldn't be able to finish, so she got dressed wished me a good time in Lisbon and left. She was friendly enough, but quite distant. I wouldn't of recommended her even without the bad smell. I will say that it was a meeting out of desperation as the ladies I was hoping to see weren't available so I resorted to what was available in the need to empty my balls, turns out I didn't even get to do that. Lesson learned, make decisions with the head upstairs not downstairs.

Patricia Navarro- https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-patricia-navarro-3827.

The next day I was still needing to empty my balls, so I messaged Patricia after reading reviews on the local board she sounded perfect for me, and she was. She quickly replied and we agreed on a time. It was €120 for an hour incall. Her apartment was easy to find and she guided me in when I arrived. I only seen one room but it was comfortable and a shower in the room if needed. In my opinion Patricia is stunning, beautiful face, big tits and a nice round ass. She is also very friendly, although her English isn't the best we managed to get on just fine. She does full on French kissing, there is no holding back with this girl. Her blowjob skills are good, I'm only average size wise but she took it all in her mouth with lots of eye contact, I was in heaven. The sex was great, multiple positions she seems to enjoy herself and comes in for the odd deep kiss. I had her bent over and told her I was close to finishing and she said she wants it in her mouth. She made sure I was completely emptied before moving off to spit it out. Then she gave a very hard and thorough massage, before nibbling on my ear and telling me to turn over. That was enough to get me excited again and she started kissing me before going down to give another blowjob to make sure I was ready again. Couple of positions later I had her bent over again and finished with a beautiful view of her ass, and again she made sure I was finished before moving off. We had a bit of a cuddle and off I went, fully satisfied. I'd definitely recommend anyone in Lisbon to visit this girl.

[Stradivari]

Wow, loved to read through the last ten's of pages and particularly to your recent post, ShinyCrazy. There is really excellent knowledge around and I will call myself stupid if I will not try some of the EP and Apartadox suggestions. One question for the typical EP ST 120-150/ h: Is it normally a full hour including two shots or do they expect to book more than one hour if I want to come more than once?

Preparing for a journey end of the month, I would like to ask about an area that has not been covered as much as the incall / outcall escort scene of lisbon. I am talking about the rougher, simpler, cheaper, dirtier (not necessarily in terms of hygiene, but more of atmosphere) options. I am aware that this is not the main focus of this group but sometimes I am drawn to the less luxurious end of the spectrum. So, in terms of street walkers, brothels, maybe Asian or African places. Is there such a scene in Lisbon?

I am staying in the Bairro Alto / Alfama area and I will have to work a lot with unfixed schedules, so it may be difficult to pre-arrange dates that I can guarantee, making "walk-in" options preferable over fixed outcall / incall arrangements.


Complete Idiot's Guide to Lisbon.



Mongering in Lisbon is easy. Get a decent hotel. Review my list of good girls from Escort Privada. Contact the girl via WhatsApp. Enjoy.

[ExExpatriate]

EP is 150/ HR + extras, like anal. For your neighborhood, there is no extra for transport. Whether that is one pops or two depends on the time and the girl. Most girls will allow two pops ("opportunities" is the local term) if you get started on no. 2 well before the end of the hour. But it's worth asking about opportunities when you make the appointment, so they know your expectations.

I can't tell you about streetwalkers and such. They've never been my thing.


Wow, loved to read through the last ten's of pages and particularly to your recent post, ShinyCrazy. There is really excellent knowledge around and I will call myself stupid if I will not try some of the EP and Apartadox suggestions. One question for the typical EP ST 120-150/ h: Is it normally a full hour including two shots or do they expect to book more than one hour if I want to come more than once?

Preparing for a journey end of the month, I would like to ask about an area that has not been covered as much as the incall / outcall escort scene of lisbon. I am talking about the rougher, simpler, cheaper, dirtier (not necessarily in terms of hygiene, but more of atmosphere) options. I am aware that this is not the main focus of this group but sometimes I am drawn to the less luxurious end of the spectrum. So, in terms of street walkers, brothels, maybe Asian or African places. Is there such a scene in Lisbon?

I am staying in the Bairro Alto / Alfama area and I will have to work a lot with unfixed schedules, so it may be difficult to pre-arrange dates that I can guarantee, making "walk-in" options preferable over fixed outcall / incall arrangements.

[Stradivari]

Thank you ExExpatriate for the quick answer. So I will check the "opportunities" upfront.

Let's see if I can figure out something and report myself. Locations that have been mentioned are Eduardo VII Park, Monsanto Forest Park, Conde Redondo, area around metro Intendente, Martim Moniz and Anjos area but I don't know if this information is up to date, with acceptable safety, if there really is any action and whether it has straight girls (I'm not into shemales).


EP is 150/ HR + extras, like anal. For your neighborhood, there is no extra for transport. Whether that is one pops or two depends on the time and the girl. Most girls will allow two pops ("opportunities" is the local term) if you get started on no. 2 well before the end of the hour. But it's worth asking about opportunities when you make the appointment, so they know your expectations.

I can't tell you about streetwalkers and such. They've never been my thing.

[Koki9290]

Thank you ExExpatriate for the quick answer. So I will check the "opportunities" upfront.

Let's see if I can figure out something and report myself. Locations that have been mentioned are Eduardo VII Park, Monsanto Forest Park, Conde Redondo, area around metro Intendente, Martim Moniz and Anjos area but I don't know if this information is up to date, with acceptable safety, if there really is any action and whether it has straight girls (I'm not into shemales).I was wandering around the area east of Martim Monz last night around 10 pm and saw no streetwalkers. Lots of guys in the streets hanging out and drinking but no action that I could discern. I'll check out Eduardo VII, Rua do Conde de Redonde and Anjos in the next couple of days because I'm staying nearby. Mansanto Forest is huge and wouldn't know where to begin.

[RobotoVoice]

Hey guys!

I am happy to add yet another positive report on Patricia Navarro!

ApartadoX: https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827.

Portal Privado: https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1160.

Incalls.

- 30 Minutes - 70 Euros.

- 1 Hour - 120 Euros.

Important Note: Appointments are only made on the same day you contact her and she does not offer Anal.

Also, her English is pretty basic. I have a pretty good grasp on Portuguese, so we managed just fine.

I messaged her through Whatsapp and she responded relatively quickly. The day after, we scheduled a 1 hour meet (Incall).

I made sure to confirm the services she offered: BBBJ, CIM and she allows for multiple pops in the session! She does emphasize good hyenine, so I recommend you boys give yourselves a good shave down south if you plan on meeting up with her.

She was my ideal Latina woman, with caramel skin and long black hair. Not only is she pretty but she is quite charming as well! Very seductive!

When I arrived, she kindly asked me to take a shower and offered me some water before we started.

I finished 3 times. First time, CIM. Second time, Doggy. Third time, Missionary. I even slapped her ass a couple of times but heard no complaints!

During downtime, we cuddled and she massaged me a bit. Towards the end, when I was spent, we engaged in some nice conversation.

All in all, I was quite happy with experience! I would have given her a 10/10 but I have to admit she seemed just a little bit thicker than her photos indicated.

I will definitely be seeing her again!

[ExExpatriate]

Two EP girls recently did a name change.

Mariana Amaral is now Sofia Abecassis. A keen observer can see it plain as day. The new photo essay has had the tattoos removed, but that is all. I was never with her, but she had a few good reviews here and there. Maybe she felt showing off her tats was damaging her appeal?

Vera Guerra is now Julieta Gomes. I have been with her and am in complete agreement with the fellows on the local board: she is a disinterested, lousy lay, will use every time wasting tactic there is, complain non-stop about everything, and then demand a tip or that you pay for her parking. There is zero reason to ever call this girl.

[Stradivari]

There is nothing to add to this review from my perspective. I met here late this evening (conversation before meeting was straight and easy) and I was nicely surprised by here expressive face and eyes, and indeed she has some more weight than I would have expected, but for booty lovers very nice. Here attitude is perfect and she is kind and enthusiastic. First shot CIM after nice wet DT after which she did not stop but tried just to continue. I needed a short brake however and we walked very nicely. Intense cowgirl with rubbing her clit strongly and just at the end of an hour I came right in time. She is a kind person, please treat her well. Sexually, it was okay, good GFE, bothered a little bit by some restrictions (no FIP, no saliva). But nothing to write home about. Most likely I will try somebody else before repeating.

My feet's were to tired tonight to check the street situation.


This is one where I chose to break some new ground.

I haven't seen Bela reviewed anywhere that I follow it, but she has been asked about.

Bela is about 20, with dark hair and a nice face, but nothing that would turn your head on the street. Her best attribute is her blue eyes. She appeared dressed casually, but stylishly. As for her body, it is exactly what you see in the pictures, but look carefully at them. If you do, you'll see she has a thick set of legs and a big booty; basically, she naturally has the kind of junk in the trunk that a lot of girls go to the gym and do squats all day to get. She is NOT fat and the pictures are accurate. The thing is I can see a lot of you guys missing that detail -- which is right in front of your face -- and then complaining about Photoshopping.

She is new to being a call girl and still enthusiastic about it. She told me she started for a few weeks, took a month off to deal with some private problems, and had just gotten started again. She doesn't do anal or FIV, but her OWO is sans hands, all mouth, and good; good DFK; basically, GFE with the girlfriend who likes to fuck.

]https://escortprivada.com/escort/bela-soares/

[EMassageBro]

Coming to Lisbon for bachelor party.

Looking for a reputable walk in brothel with line up.

My guys not picky sometimes going like equivalent to felina in BCN will do.

And Nuru spa Lisbon? She mixed reports.

How many people can they recieve at a time.

We are 13 but I reckon about 8 will want to go.

[ExExpatriate]

IMO, you would be lucky to find eight girls working at the same time at most spas in Lisbon. Only a few have a stated roster that big, and it would be very unusual for them to all be at the "office" at the same time for no reason. Moreover, I've only seen a spa that had that many private rooms once, and that place closed, although maybe another one is around.

Brothels per se do not exist, because profiting from prostitution is a crime. The work-arounds are "we're a spa" or "we do advertising" or "I rent rooms to the escorts, and don't collect on the actual services. " I know there have been places that could do 8 guests as a party in the past, but I'm unaware of any now. I can't point you in the right direction there, just on that point alone.


Coming to Lisbon for bachelor party.

Looking for a reputable walk in brothel with line up.

My guys not picky sometimes going like equivalent to felina in BCN will do.

And Nuru spa Lisbon? She mixed reports.

How many people can they recieve at a time.

We are 13 but I reckon about 8 will want to go.

[Stirling]

Hi Gents, back in your wonderful city and have been for almost a week. I've seen a number of ladies including a few off SA. Will definitely report on my finding next few days. That said, I've looked, but have been unable to find any reports on either Carlota M or Iris Furtado. If anyone has any intel, I'd appreciate your thoughts.

Stirling.

[ExExpatriate]

The poorly rated Eva Santos changed her name and got a new photoshoot, and now goes by Violeta Santos.

That makes three in the last week or so.

[Carlos Primeros]

Hi folks,

I am wondering all the time why there is all the time a hype with the EP. Girls. They are expensive and you have quite often a bad service or a bait and switch.

Why do you not look into other platforms like classificados.net.pt? There are hundreds if not thousand girls offering their services. Be aware that there is also a good number of bait and swith operations going on but they are considerably cheaper. The going price there is 30 minutes of 40 / 50 and 1 hour 80 - 100 , depending what you are looking for.

African girls here offer mostly excellent services like the one I would like to recommend. (Mulattas / black girls are not so much in demand than the white-skinned ones and therefore their servieces are lower in price - but nevertheless their performance is mostly better. A Brazilian mulatta is preferable to a white dead fish in bed)

Saphira / Diamante Negro.

https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/419118-sabor-africano

Body: slim and musculous. Well trained.

Boobs: 40 C. They fill a large hand. Perky.

Age: around 38 - 40.

Performance: Kissing, anal, vaginal, BBBJ, deep throat, massage. She really gets wet.

Price: 30 min 50 , 1 hour 100 .

Place: side street of Fonte Luminosa - Lisboa (Almada). Rua Actor Vale.

I suggest that mongers visiting Lisboa should give it a try. She is doing Incall and Outcall during the day.

The only draw-back is, that her English is limited.

Enjoy.

Carlos Primeros.

[ExExpatriate]

1) Since this board is mostly patronized by visitors, and visitors have a hotel room, that expense is built-in for us. Outcall with EP is cheaper than with other predominantly incall escorts.

2) If you want an under 30 Portuguese girl, rather than Brasilians or Africans, EP is where most of them are.

3) EP used to be pricey. Nowadays, 150/ h is in the same ballpark as the better incall escorts.

4) ClassifcadosX? Ha! I do keep an eye on it, but most of those ads are unverified. Many are easily seen as fake. And most of the verified girls there also have ads placed on photo-verified sites.

I encourage these guys to try incall pretty often, but I understand why they do not. Now you know.


Hi folks,

I am wondering all the time why there is all the time a hype with the EP. Girls. They are expensive and you have quite often a bad service or a bait and switch.

[Carlos Primeros]

ExExpatriate. You are right concerning EP and predominantly white girls. No disagreement.

With out-call you have to pay also for the transport of the girl and their time comming to you. One hour turns out to be then only 30 minutes. For my part I would not like to have a working girl in my private residence. But this is only a personal matter.

Classificadosx is certainly to be taken not only with one grain of salt. There is a lot of fake going on. Agreed to that as well. Seeing an incall. Girl. If she is opening the door and is a total fake, I simply turn around an leave. Easy as that. It certainly happened to me as well. But after a while you have filtered out a certain number of girls which are ok. That is the advantage of living in a place like Lisboa.

I do not travel anymore extensively as before and I have everything here in front of my door.

Carlos Primeros.

Retired King of Portugal.

[ExExpatriate]

Oh yeah, Carlos. I'm not arguing. Just answering the question.

In my own pursuits, I mix EP with incalls, depending on the timing and circumstances.

If you are in Lisbon proper, EP never charges for transport. That only comes up for outlying areas, like Estoril or something. Also, I've never had an outcall in Lisbon, EP or not, start the clock at any time except the time of her arrival. That would be very, very unusual IME.

As a rule, most incall ladies in Lisbon don't even want to do outcalls. They are especially disinterested in doing outcall for strangers. So, the mark-up is steep, they ask for travel fare, etc. The more extras they want, the less they really want to go out for work in the first place.

[Harry1217]

A couple of reports from a very short trip. Both outcall to my hotel and booked via EP.

Joana Montenegro.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/

She is well reviewed across many different boards, and I concur with recent reports saying she still looks good! The EP pictures do give a good representation of her, perhaps not as photoshopped as other girls (EP overall isn't as bad as sites like PortalPrivado which have excessive photoshopping). She's around 30, tall for a girl, and has a lovely body resembling the pictures.

The best way to describe her service is she will give you a PSE, and cater for fetishes, if that's what you want, without Anal (which she politely said she didn't enjoy).

Gave a great BBBJ with a CIM at the end, kissed as much as I wanted, and she loves energetic and high-speed intercourse. It felt like a rigorous workout by the end! Open to every position under the sun, and loves intense doggy. On 1 hour appointments, I struggle to get hard again after I pop, so I had to manage her enthusiasm.

Just a lovely lady with so signs of burn-out despite having been going for a few years. Speaks good English which does help. Stayed just over an hour with no clock watching. Definitely one of my best experiences.

Ana Lucia.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/ana-lucia/

I don't think there are any reports about this lady, surprisingly, so I've taken one for the team here. I say surprisingly because she has a bit of a unique look and I would have thought she would appeal to many. Having said that, I personally prefer fuller and more curvy figures! But I certainly found Ana attractive; when she arrived at my hotel in jeans I was happy with what I saw - tall and youthful with long dark hair in a ponytail (I'm sure the hair was a wig but it was hard to tell).

I was equally happy once she undressed in the room. I would actually say she looks better than in the EP pictures but they do give a good representation.

Ana is actually 30 next year, rather than the 22 stated on EP. However, she could pass for 22-24 as she has a youthful looking face with not an ounce of fat on her body and the breasts of an 18 year old (just like the pictures).

Her personality is the opposite of someone like Joana. Ana is quiet and whilst she speaks English, it is limited (had to use google translate a lot). She also comes across as a bit inexperienced despite her relatively mature age and having been doing this for over 18 months. Luckily no burn-out syndrome as such. Inexperience is fine however, providing the girl is willing to take direction and show some enthusiasm, which Ana did.

She is health / hygiene conscious and is a bit reluctant with certain things -kissing was not always full on DFK, and she initially denied FIV (but eventually accepted it with enthusiasm). The OWO was also not the best I have had (a bit lacking in pressure). That was despite me feeling a genuine connection with her during the meet and her actually telling me that she liked me! She's training to be a dentist, and the health side of that showed if you get my drift!

She was happy with everything I requested (open to all positions and she's flexible) & does actually provide a CIM finish. She brought some toys along with her and we had a bit of fun with those. Even played a bit of role-play. I really enjoyed going down on her and must have spent around 20 minutes of the booking doing that. Didn't ask about anal but I don't think she provides it.

Stayed the full hour and she didn't ask for the money until the end - I had left it on a table nearby. That for me is always a good sign.

I only saw Ana because other ladies were not available (I had booked the short trip late and didn't have much time to schedule). Ana was far down on my list, and although I enjoyed the meet, I'm not sure if I would see her again as there are so many others I want to see. I would recommend her but with the caveats described above (comes across inexperienced, possibly no anal, some services not full on due to hygiene obsessions).

[IsaBahn]

Hi guys,

As usual I report from another city around the world. See my other reports, from Kiev to Rio via Bogota and more.

Lisbon, is a city to avoid. 90% bad experiences for me, maybe a few mediocre. I had one good experience with Caroline Belmont but she stopped working unfortunately.

Went to a massage called Tantric Moments: https://www.tantricmoments.pt/en/ - got in with a smiling Brazilian with huge fake boobs. Got a very low quality massage with handjob at the end. No pussy touching. No kissing. 180 euro for one hour. Waste of money. I tried to check what is happening in other massage parlours. Got in, usually only two girls on the shift, not something thrilling, so I decided to pass and go back to the hotel.

I tried to book some girls from apartadox, most of them wanted 150 euro per hour, but since my hotel was in Cascais they wanted extra 30 euro to get here. I said I will book the Uber, but no, they wanted me to charge up their phone or pass the money upfront through a different shadey way. Now this for me is a very RED flag so I decided not to book any of them. Eventually I found a girl that was chatty on the phone and agreed for me to call her an Uber.

So I booked the girl called Ariana Pilar https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-ariana-pilar-6673 and it was a disappointment:

1. The good things: She arrived on time. She charged 150 euro for hour. She is not ugly but not good looking either.

2. Bad things: She is not the girl from the photos. She have darker skin. Dirty colour blonde hair.

3. She was very boring in bed. Not terrible just again, boring.

4. We took a shower, had vanilla quiet sex and she left.

I sometimes pay 800 euros for an hour for BDSM girls in Berlin. I can pay a lot. I can pay a bit (in Colombia) but I expect value per money. This was not it. Even the Brazilian girls which in Brazil are so much fun transform to be boring in Lisbon. Go figures.

I have yet to find something worth it in Lisbon. Stay away.

Aviv.

[Harry1217]

There are so many well reviewed girls on the tens of pages here that it is a bit harsh to advise people to stay away from Lisbon.

One thing that is indisputable is that Lisbon, like many other cities around the world, has been on a slow decline for many years. By all accounts, the best times were actually when the internet was in its infancy. But there are still good experiences to be had, if you follow the recommendations in this forum.

It's also not fair to compare to a South American country like Brazil, which is a few thousand miles away and has all manner of other considerations. But i agree it would be strange if you plonked a girl from Brazil to Lisbon and her service went downhill, given she would be earning more in Lisbon! I can tell you that Lisbon trumps other European Cities such as London and Amsterdam, in my opinion.

Obviously, even well reviewed girls may not deliver or may not turn out to be what you wanted.

Massage can indeed be very frustrating when there is no kissing and even touching is restricted. I actually popped in to Tantric Moments last year, and I had 3 or 4 ladies introduce themselves, but just didn't get a good feel. And the 180 price also put me off (bearing in mind full service at your hotel can be had for 150). I did get a very good sensual massage at Genuine Tantric (but no kissing and limited touching).


Hi guys,

As usual I report from another city around the world. See my other reports, from Kiev to Rio via Bogota and more.

Lisbon, is a city to avoid. 90% bad experiences for me, maybe a few mediocre. I had one good experience with Caroline Belmont but she stopped working unfortunately.

Went to a massage called Tantric Moments: https://www.tantricmoments.pt/en/ - got in with a smiling Brazilian with huge fake boobs. Got a very low quality massage with handjob at the end. No pussy touching. No kissing. 180 euro for one hour. Waste of money. I tried to check what is happening in other massage parlours. Got in, usually only two girls on the shift, not something thrilling, so I decided to pass and go back to the hotel.

I tried to book some girls from apartadox, most of them wanted 150 euro per hour, but since my hotel was in Cascais they wanted extra 30 euro to get here. I said I will book the Uber, but no, they wanted me to charge up their phone or pass the money upfront through a different shadey way. Now this for me is a very RED flag so I decided not to book any of them. Eventually I found a girl that was chatty on the phone and agreed for me to call her an Uber.

So I booked the girl called Ariana Pilar https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-ariana-pilar-6673 and it was a disappointment:

1. The good things: She arrived on time. She charged 150 euro for hour. She is not ugly but not good looking either.

2. Bad things: She is not the girl from the photos. She have darker skin. Dirty colour blonde hair.

3. She was very boring in bed. Not terrible just again, boring.

4. We took a shower, had vanilla quiet sex and she left.

I sometimes pay 800 euros for an hour for BDSM girls in Berlin. I can pay a lot. I can pay a bit (in Colombia) but I expect value per money. This was not it. Even the Brazilian girls which in Brazil are so much fun transform to be boring in Lisbon. Go figures.

I have yet to find something worth it in Lisbon. Stay away.

Aviv.

[Mongerer88]

Harry1217, Thank you for the Joanna review. I wish I had been able to see her, but such is life with EP, even when you try to book in advance. And thanks for the groundbreaking Ana Lucia review.

If you take the time to read Avivis's reviews, they are about 85 to 90 percent negative experiences, and if I recall correctly he prefers CBJ instead of BBBJ.

I doubt that there are any other board participants exactly like him. If there are, tgey would be advised to stay away from Lisbon. And perhaps this activity entirely if a person is displeased 85 to 90 percent of the time.

While it isn't as bad as with him, it happens a lot in the forums. A guy who enjoys FKKs who writes for 10 pages trying to find a German FKK in Spain or Portugal ends up disappointed when the experience isn't like a German FKK even when told that no FKKs exist in Spain or Portugal.

I believe I remember that Avivis also dislikes Portuguese food and other customs. Personally, I like the food and the hour or hour and a half of GFE in the room.

Are criticisms valid? Of course. Portugal really doesn't have a BDSM scene, unlike London which obviously does (with dims, switches and subs). But a not insignificant portion of London full-service BDSM providers are CBJ only, which honestly ruins the session for me. When it comes to valid criticisms, Sarah Valente's ad sometimes appears on the BDSM section of Apartadox. It shouldn't, since she doesn't seem to actually do that. Same with anal. EP should quit teasing on items where the ladies rarely deliver. Joanna's review on the Britain site says she does some mild submissive BDSM when comfortable with the customer. Same with Marcela Moniz, who is also anal friendly.

The best way to get the information is to read the reviews. And Lisbon is a soft-pedal place. It is probably best to ask about fetish activities about half-way through the session if the lady seems to feel comfortable with you, and be ready for it to be nicely rejected. That is how I had a tremendous session with EP's long-departed Ana Castro. Portugal sessions are pretty GFE standard, including BBBJ, as can be gleaned from most of the pages. Not sure really what Avivis is looking for in a perfect session, but Portugal doesn't do it for him.

But for the 98 percent of posters who have almost all great sessions in Portugal, so do not say Stay Away, we say, You Should Try Portugal. But as with food, learn to appreciate what is offered in the local culture, not what you want from another culture, or from your imagined hopes and dreams.

Are there ladies to avoid? Of course. EP's Fabiana Lopes just got a dismal review from an experienced reviewer on the local board. But plenty of recommended ladies to see, also.


There are so many well reviewed girls on the tens of pages here that it is a bit harsh to advise people to stay away from Lisbon.

One thing that is indisputable is that Lisbon, like many other cities around the world, has been on a slow decline for many years. By all accounts, the best times were actually when the internet was in its infancy. But there are still good experiences to be had, if you follow the recommendations in this forum.

It's also not fair to compare to a South American country like Brazil, which is a few thousand miles away and has all manner of other considerations. But i agree it would be strange if you plonked a girl from Brazil to Lisbon and her service went downhill, given she would be earning more in Lisbon! I can tell you that Lisbon trumps other European Cities such as London and Amsterdam, in my opinion.

Obviously, even well reviewed girls may not deliver or may not turn out to be what you wanted.

Massage can indeed be very frustrating when there is no kissing and even touching is restricted. I actually popped in to Tantric Moments last year, and I had 3 or 4 ladies introduce themselves, but just didn't get a good feel. And the 180 price also put me off (bearing in mind full service at your hotel can be had for 150). I did get a very good sensual massage at Genuine Tantric (but no kissing and limited touching).

[ExExpatriate]

What I'll do is. Advise people to stay away from ignorant reporting.

If you had bothered to either do your own homework or simply ASK, you would have discovered Ariana Pilar has a low rating (and that despite her being Carolina's duo partner). Also, I think it's been years since anyone had anything positive to say about Tantric Moments anywhere, and they've always been an HJ-only place.

Your story screams that you went about things all the wrong way. I post about Cascais regularly, and have a great time in most cases.

This reads like a Kevin's Yelp review. Lisbon rocks. It has its own culture, but so does everywhere else. I don't get why people rave about German brothels, but you don't see me posting on German forums that they suck.


Hi guys,

As usual I report from another city around the world. See my other reports, from Kiev to Rio via Bogota and more.

Lisbon, is a city to avoid. 90% bad experiences for me, maybe a few mediocre. I had one good experience with Caroline Belmont but she stopped working unfortunately.

Went to a massage called Tantric Moments: https://www.tantricmoments.pt/en/ - got in with a smiling Brazilian with huge fake boobs. Got a very low quality massage with handjob at the end. No pussy touching. No kissing. 180 euro for one hour. Waste of money. I tried to check what is happening in other massage parlours. Got in, usually only two girls on the shift, not something thrilling, so I decided to pass and go back to the hotel.

I tried to book some girls from apartadox, most of them wanted 150 euro per hour, but since my hotel was in Cascais they wanted extra 30 euro to get here. I said I will book the Uber, but no, they wanted me to charge up their phone or pass the money upfront through a different shadey way. Now this for me is a very RED flag so I decided not to book any of them. Eventually I found a girl that was chatty on the phone and agreed for me to call her an Uber.

So I booked the girl called Ariana Pilar https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-ariana-pilar-6673 and it was a disappointment:

1. The good things: She arrived on time. She charged 150 euro for hour. She is not ugly but not good looking either.

2. Bad things: She is not the girl from the photos. She have darker skin. Dirty colour blonde hair.

3. She was very boring in bed. Not terrible just again, boring.

4. We took a shower, had vanilla quiet sex and she left.

I sometimes pay 800 euros for an hour for BDSM girls in Berlin. I can pay a lot. I can pay a bit (in Colombia) but I expect value per money. This was not it. Even the Brazilian girls which in Brazil are so much fun transform to be boring in Lisbon. Go figures.

I have yet to find something worth it in Lisbon. Stay away.

Aviv.

[Kama Leão]

What I'll do is. Advise people to stay away from ignorant reporting.Exactly! With so many useful posts and "field reports", you can only go wrong if you choose to ignore them.

[Harry1217]

Good points. I find it hard to believe that a person wouldn't find in Lisbon the type of service they are looking for. It's not as if Lisbon ladies are highly conservative or not up for certain things. After all, whether it's a FKK (e.g.) or not, ultimately you're having sex with a lady. Perhaps I'm viewing it too simplistically.

The accuracy of the advertising in Lisbon could be better, as you say. I was specifically looking for a bit of fetish fun, and contacted a couple of other ladies who had BDSM listed, as back-up in case Joana wasn't available. However, when I mentioned it to them, they said they didn't provide it (for example, Sofia Sampaio). More care should be taken to ensure the lady does provide the services listed.


Harry1217, Thank you for the Joanna review. I wish I had been able to see her, but such is life with EP, even when you try to book in advance. And thanks for the groundbreaking Ana Lucia review.

If you take the time to read Avivis's reviews, they are about 85 to 90 percent negative experiences, and if I recall correctly he prefers CBJ instead of BBBJ.

I doubt that there are any other board participants exactly like him. If there are, tgey would be advised to stay away from Lisbon. And perhaps this activity entirely if a person is displeased 85 to 90 percent of the time.

While it isn't as bad as with him, it happens a lot in the forums. A guy who enjoys FKKs who writes for 10 pages trying to find a German FKK in Spain or Portugal ends up disappointed when the experience isn't like a German FKK even when told that no FKKs exist in Spain or Portugal.

I believe I remember that Avivis also dislikes Portuguese food and other customs. Personally, I like the food and the hour or hour and a half of GFE in the room.

Are criticisms valid? Of course. Portugal really doesn't have a BDSM scene, unlike London which obviously does (with dims, switches and subs). But a not insignificant portion of London full-service BDSM providers are CBJ only, which honestly ruins the session for me. When it comes to valid criticisms, Sarah Valente's ad sometimes appears on the BDSM section of Apartadox. It shouldn't, since she doesn't seem to actually do that. Same with anal. EP should quit teasing on items where the ladies rarely deliver. Joanna's review on the Britain site says she does some mild submissive BDSM when comfortable with the customer. Same with Marcela Moniz, who is also anal friendly.

The best way to get the information is to read the reviews. And Lisbon is a soft-pedal place. It is probably best to ask about fetish activities about half-way through the session if the lady seems to feel comfortable with you, and be ready for it to be nicely rejected. That is how I had a tremendous session with EP's long-departed Ana Castro. Portugal sessions are pretty GFE standard, including BBBJ, as can be gleaned from most of the pages. Not sure really what Avivis is looking for in a perfect session, but Portugal doesn't do it for him.

But for the 98 percent of posters who have almost all great sessions in Portugal, so do not say Stay Away, we say, You Should Try Portugal. But as with food, learn to appreciate what is offered in the local culture, not what you want from another culture, or from your imagined hopes and dreams.

Are there ladies to avoid? Of course. EP's Fabiana Lopes just got a dismal review from an experienced reviewer on the local board. But plenty of recommended ladies to see, also.

[ExExpatriate]

I suppose we should ALL be grateful when an angry thumb scores only known poor performers. Serving such a person must be unpleasant. I wouldn't wish that on the ladies I like or wish to call upon in the future. Even from a practical point of view -- bad experiences contribute to burn out.

[IsaBahn]

Hi,

Got some nice (and not so nice) responses to my Lisbon review. I would like to fine-tune it.

First of all, it is my recommendation and taste. I somehow couldn't connect to any of the girls vibe, communication and eventually sexual encounter (massage, or escort) and due to time constraint (and payment) I couldn't test ALL the ladies. Unfortunately MY experience was not good and I basically think that sexually mongering is better else where. Even Madrid with VIVE for example. But it is still just MY experience and trying to reflect it to others.

I would like to correct a few things from my previous trip to Lisbon last year. This time I had more time to travel around Portugal and got some good recommendations for restaurants. Portugal is a beautiful place, Sintra is amazing (and huge), the views are marvellous and sea food is delicious (especially in Cascais).

[Harry1217]

The issue is that the vast majority of your experiences appear to be negative, spread across several different countries. That raises the question of whether it is the girls, or whether you should be doing this activity at all. From a quick browse of your reports, it appears you prefer a type of setting where there are lots of ladies to choose from, and you can relax and enjoy the atmosphere too (i.e. Vive madrid, FKK's etc).

Also you're going to wind people up when you've only seen a handful of ladies in Lisbon, and you advise people to stay away from the place, against a backdrop of plenty of positive reports on this forum.

I understand you're Spanish so I would be surprised if you didn't like your fellow Iberian country, unless of course you're not happy with your home country and perhaps the Iberian peninsula isn't the place for you.


Hi,

Got some nice (and not so nice) responses to my Lisbon review. I would like to fine-tune it.

First of all, it is my recommendation and taste. I somehow couldn't connect to any of the girls vibe, communication and eventually sexual encounter (massage, or escort) and due to time constraint (and payment) I couldn't test ALL the ladies. Unfortunately MY experience was not good and I basically think that sexually mongering is better else where. Even Madrid with VIVE for example. But it is still just MY experience and trying to reflect it to others.

I would like to correct a few things from my previous trip to Lisbon last year. This time I had more time to travel around Portugal and got some good recommendations for restaurants. Portugal is a beautiful place, Sintra is amazing (and huge), the views are marvellous and sea food is delicious (especially in Cascais).

[IsaBahn]

The issue is that the vast majority of your experiences appear to be negative, spread across several different countries. That raises the question of whether it is the girls, or whether you should be doing this activity at all. From a quick browse of your reports, it appears you prefer a type of setting where there are lots of ladies to choose from, and you can relax and enjoy the atmosphere too (i.e. Vive madrid, FKK's etc).

Also you're going to wind people up when you've only seen a handful of ladies in Lisbon, and you advise people to stay away from the place, against a backdrop of plenty of positive reports on this forum.

I understand you're Spanish so I would be surprised if you didn't like your fellow Iberian country, unless of course you're not happy with your home country and perhaps the Iberian peninsula isn't the place for you.I do have high standards.

I did had great experiences (Germany, Madrid, Kyiev, Rio, Bogota) with good reviews and reports.

Bottom line, if you try girls in random and get 1 good out of 10 in Lisbon. This is the rate I am going to give.

If you try random girls in Bogota / Germany and get 5 good or 7 good out of 10 this is the rate this country is given.

Of course if you read 200 pages in the forum and finds. One good service girl. That does not make this country a good place for mongering.

Go to Germany. You will enjoy more. Here is a 150/200 euro p / hour escort agency I had very good experiences (more than 5 times) with in Berlin escort77. Berlin. Sorry if I offended someone but truth had to be told and it is a good practice to report so others will know.

Fore me: Avoid Lisbon.

[Kama Leão]

Of course if you read 200 pages in the forum and finds. One good service girl. That does not make this country a good place for mongering.I don't know if your problem is one of math or of reading. But one of them it sure is.

[ExExpatriate]

I don't know if your problem is one of math or of reading. But one of them it sure is.I discovered the "ignore" function, and set some of our participants with problems to ignore. Seeing as how they know so much better than anyone else, they clearly don't need any help.

[Stirling]

I was in Lisbon a few weeks ago for a week and used a variety of services. I joined SA about a month prior to my arrival based on the recommendation of a friend. It worked out well. I chatted with a few ladies and made several dates. The first of which happened on the day of my arrival. The young lady met me at my hotel 7 pm and we headed out for dinner after which she joined me in my room until dawn. Total damage was 250. I arranged to see her again the next evening and same deal. Dinner and overnight for 250. No anal but otherwise full GFE. Busy on the 3rd day and didn't get back to my hotel until later in the evening. I went on escort privado and found Francisca Vilar working. Arrangements were easy and she met me outside of my hotel 30 min later. (security / elevator key card issues). She is 150 or 200 with anal. Good looking girl, I found her slimmer than her photos would suggest? Quite bright and can converse on a number of topics. Light french kissing, nothing deep. I found her BJ lacking. To be fair to her, I didn't provide much direction, however, she was quick and didn't slide down too deep. Lots of saliva!! She makes up for it during the main event. This girl can fuck. Multiple positions, bed, chair, and floor. Had a great time and would definitely repeat. I'd give her a 7/10. If only the BJ was better.

Last night tried my luck again with SA. Found a 24 yr old willing to go for dinner and overnight again for 250. I don't know anywhere else where one can find a young hottie willing to spend an entire evening and night for 250. Great time again and full GFE experience.

I found SA easy to navigate and had a myriad of different responses. From 150 for a couple of hours to 250 for dinner and multiple hours / overnight all the way up to 1000 for dinner and 3-4 hours. In some markets that would be a steal, but given the multitude of choices in Lisbon, they must be targeting business guys that fail to do their research.

In any event, great trip, looking forward to returning again.

Stirling.

[Mongerer88]

I was in Lisbon a few weeks ago for a week and used a variety of services. I joined SA about a month prior to my arrival based on the recommendation of a friend. It worked out well. I chatted with a few ladies and made several dates. The first of which happened on the day of my arrival. The young lady met me at my hotel 7 pm and we headed out for dinner after which she joined me in my room until dawn. Total damage was 250. I arranged to see her again the next evening and same deal. Dinner and overnight for 250. No anal but otherwise full GFE. Busy on the 3rd day and didn't get back to my hotel until later in the evening. I went on escort privado and found Francisca Vilar working. Arrangements were easy and she met me outside of my hotel 30 min later. (security / elevator key card issues). She is 150 or 200 with anal. Good looking girl, I found her slimmer than her photos would suggest? Quite bright and can converse on a number of topics. Light french kissing, nothing deep. I found her BJ lacking. To be fair to her, I didn't provide much direction, however, she was quick and didn't slide down too deep. Lots of saliva!! She makes up for it during the main event. This girl can fuck. Multiple positions, bed, chair, and floor. Had a great time and would definitely repeat. I'd give her a 7/10. If only the BJ was better.

Last night tried my luck again with SA. Found a 24 yr old willing to go for dinner and overnight again for 250. I don't know anywhere else where one can find a young hottie willing to spend an entire evening and night for 250. Great time again and full GFE experience.

I found SA easy to navigate and had a myriad of different responses. From 150 for a couple of hours to 250 for dinner and multiple hours / overnight all the way up to 1000 for dinner and 3-4 hours. In some markets that would be a steal, but given the multitude of choices in Lisbon, they must be targeting business guys that fail to do their research.

In any event, great trip, looking forward to returning again.

Stirling.Thank you very much for the reviews. Francisca Vilar relocated to Lisbon from Porto, where she received relatively good reviews consistent with yours, including the availability of anal. Also good to hear that Seeking Arrangement works well in Lisbon.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/francisca-vilar/

[ExExpatriate]

Frankly, I would do the SA thing all the time, except my schedule / situation makes it pretty unpredictable if I'll have that kind of latitude.

I had a thing going with a semi-retired escort, who was very popular during her incall days. She dropped out during the Pandemic, but continued to do outcall with me. She was great company, a gorgeous woman just crossing 40. A typical rendezvous would be our bedroom side (2 to 3 hours, BB, I paid for 2 hours), followed by lunch and an afternoon stroll. All told, a 5 to 6 hour date.

The format suited me very well, ideal really. The thing is, she was a unicorn: we were both available only during the late morning and early afternoon. She threw herself at me during that window, once or twice per visit. Ah, I'll miss her for years to come.

But yes. I dabbled in SA, and found that some of the ladies acted as if they weren't in a truly excellent city for escorting. Some of the best incall ladies in Lisbon will do an overnight with you for several hundred euros, so anyone asking a thousand has GPS. Just stop and realize that EP charges 150/h, and while the roster is quite mixed, some of them are very good... and those girls are splitting with the agency!


I was in Lisbon a few weeks ago for a week and used a variety of services. I joined SA about a month prior to my arrival based on the recommendation of a friend. It worked out well. I chatted with a few ladies and made several dates. The first of which happened on the day of my arrival. The young lady met me at my hotel 7 pm and we headed out for dinner after which she joined me in my room until dawn. Total damage was 250. I arranged to see her again the next evening and same deal. Dinner and overnight for 250. No anal but otherwise full GFE. Busy on the 3rd day and didn't get back to my hotel until later in the evening. I went on escort privado and found Francisca Vilar working. Arrangements were easy and she met me outside of my hotel 30 min later. (security / elevator key card issues). She is 150 or 200 with anal. Good looking girl, I found her slimmer than her photos would suggest? Quite bright and can converse on a number of topics. Light french kissing, nothing deep. I found her BJ lacking. To be fair to her, I didn't provide much direction, however, she was quick and didn't slide down too deep. Lots of saliva!! She makes up for it during the main event. This girl can fuck. Multiple positions, bed, chair, and floor. Had a great time and would definitely repeat. I'd give her a 7/10. If only the BJ was better.

Last night tried my luck again with SA. Found a 24 yr old willing to go for dinner and overnight again for 250. I don't know anywhere else where one can find a young hottie willing to spend an entire evening and night for 250. Great time again and full GFE experience.

I found SA easy to navigate and had a myriad of different responses. From 150 for a couple of hours to 250 for dinner and multiple hours / overnight all the way up to 1000 for dinner and 3-4 hours. In some markets that would be a steal, but given the multitude of choices in Lisbon, they must be targeting business guys that fail to do their research.

In any event, great trip, looking forward to returning again.

Stirling.

[Harry1217]

Thank you for the reports on SA and Francisca Vilar. Great to hear that you had such a good trip.

Francisca Vilar has two sets of pictures on EP, as do some other girls (whilst others have different pictures across different websites). She looks more attractive on the top set of pictures, but from your report I suspect the bottom set is more representative.

Your report on SA has given me food for thought. I've considered it before, but always ended up opting for the convenience of booking escorts. I've also worried about the risks of meeting a complete stranger via SA I've seen scams and worse reported.

I agree that 250 for dinner and an overnight with a hot young lady, is good. The real value is when having overnights (for shorter bookings it's not such a discount to escort rates). Suspect that my reluctance for overnights may mean I don't do SA but you've got me thinking again!

Similar SA rates have been reported in places like Barcelona but a chap on another board who has used SA in various European countries, has reported that Lisbon is one of the best both for quality of girls and also rates. London has a bigger pool of ladies to choose from, as you'd expect, but a common overnight rate appears to be e500-600, and he reports that you have to scroll through more ladies in London to find the attractive ones.


I was in Lisbon a few weeks ago for a week and used a variety of services. I joined SA about a month prior to my arrival based on the recommendation of a friend. It worked out well. I chatted with a few ladies and made several dates. The first of which happened on the day of my arrival. The young lady met me at my hotel 7 pm and we headed out for dinner after which she joined me in my room until dawn. Total damage was 250. I arranged to see her again the next evening and same deal. Dinner and overnight for 250. No anal but otherwise full GFE. Busy on the 3rd day and didn't get back to my hotel until later in the evening. I went on escort privado and found Francisca Vilar working. Arrangements were easy and she met me outside of my hotel 30 min later. (security / elevator key card issues). She is 150 or 200 with anal. Good looking girl, I found her slimmer than her photos would suggest? Quite bright and can converse on a number of topics. Light french kissing, nothing deep. I found her BJ lacking. To be fair to her, I didn't provide much direction, however, she was quick and didn't slide down too deep. Lots of saliva!! She makes up for it during the main event. This girl can fuck. Multiple positions, bed, chair, and floor. Had a great time and would definitely repeat. I'd give her a 7/10. If only the BJ was better.

Last night tried my luck again with SA. Found a 24 yr old willing to go for dinner and overnight again for 250. I don't know anywhere else where one can find a young hottie willing to spend an entire evening and night for 250. Great time again and full GFE experience.

I found SA easy to navigate and had a myriad of different responses. From 150 for a couple of hours to 250 for dinner and multiple hours / overnight all the way up to 1000 for dinner and 3-4 hours. In some markets that would be a steal, but given the multitude of choices in Lisbon, they must be targeting business guys that fail to do their research.

In any event, great trip, looking forward to returning again.

Stirling.

[JohnD00]

Hi All,

Have been following this forum very closely for the past month or so.

I think I've managed to grasp the where to go and who to go with. Thanks for all the reports!

I will be in Lisbon for a week in Mid-June, so hoping I can see some action and revert back with any feedback.

From below. I think it's the first time I've seen 'SA' being mentioned. Can anyone help to provide more info on what 'SA' stands for?

Thanks again.


Thank you for the reports on SA and Francisca Vilar. Great to hear that you had such a good trip.

Francisca Vilar has two sets of pictures on EP, as do some other girls (whilst others have different pictures across different websites). She looks more attractive on the top set of pictures, but from your report I suspect the bottom set is more representative.

Your report on SA has given me food for thought. I've considered it before, but always ended up opting for the convenience of booking escorts. I've also worried about the risks of meeting a complete stranger via SA I've seen scams and worse reported.

I agree that 250 for dinner and an overnight with a hot young lady, is good. The real value is when having overnights (for shorter bookings it's not such a discount to escort rates). Suspect that my reluctance for overnights may mean I don't do SA but you've got me thinking again!

Similar SA rates have been reported in places like Barcelona but a chap on another board who has used SA in various European countries, has reported that Lisbon is one of the best both for quality of girls and also rates. London has a bigger pool of ladies to choose from, as you'd expect, but a common overnight rate appears to be e500-600, and he reports that you have to scroll through more ladies in London to find the attractive ones.

[Mongerer88]

Hi All,

Have been following this forum very closely for the past month or so.

I think I've managed to grasp the where to go and who to go with. Thanks for all the reports!

I will be in Lisbon for a week in Mid-June, so hoping I can see some action and revert back with any feedback.

From below. I think it's the first time I've seen 'SA' being mentioned. Can anyone help to provide more info on what 'SA' stands for?

Thanks again.It stands for Seeking Arrangement. You can read the Seeking Arrangement forum here on ISG to more fully grasp the concepts.

You need to pay a fee and join Seeking Arrangement in order to view profiles. You will then be able to converse with the ladies. Any discussion of sex should be done outside of the Seeking Arrangement messaging system. Incredibly and probably idiotically, SA is USA Based and they need to avoid any connection with sex for money.

In theory, you are going on a date when using SA. Ideally, that date will involve a meal, companionship and sex.

Sometimes sex does not occur. That makes the times and relationships in which good sex does occur more valuable. If you ever played a game of chance at a county or state fair, you can appreciate the concept. Can't value winners without you and the crowd seeing some losers.

Let me be a skeptic when it comes to Lisbon and SA with respect to a short-term visitor.

In theory, according to the SA proponents, the women are not hookers. You will hear this most often from guys frequenting countries, particularly Mexico, where there exist a multitude of lower-end, less-educated, sex workers who would simply be incapable of maintaining a conversation in English with a traveler from the first world. SA provides a mechanism for "upper-end" sex workers to have relationships that are more like dating with wealthier tourists, many of whom spend a significant length of time there. Another country in which SA is popular is the United States. It is very difficult administratively for a lady to do independent escorting in the USA There are plenty to choose from, but due to the administrative hassles such as screening, USA Independent escorts charge a lot. USA Law enforcement has taken a complete hands-off approach to SA. So it has provided a mechanism for many ladies to effectively do sex work without concerns regarding law enforcement. Sex work is frowned upon throughout the world, so the dining, conversing, and potential for a quasi-relationship with a "regular" seems to provide some psychological benefit of her not "feeling like a hooker", and it seems that not "feeling like a John" does likewise for many guys.

Now, let's cut to the chase in Lisbon for a tourist. You need to ask yourself if you are going to be there long enough to not be emotionally devastated if you are the unlucky player at the carnival game who does not when the stuffed animal prize. In other words, what if you take her for a nice meal, and she just says thanks and nothing else happens? Not terribly likely, but it could occur.

You need to ask yourself if you value the time and companionship that occurs other than sex. If so, that is great, but also ask yourself if you would prefer the certainty of booking a well-reviewed escort who is known to speak English for a long enough period of time to include a meal and perhaps some tourism. There are an endless number of them. Several EP ladies, and independents such as Carolina Belmont and Rebeca Diniz are good candidates also.

You will never convince me that many of the ladies on SA in Lisbon are not also working as escorts. One humorous post on the local board regarding the Lisbon dinner clubs involved a local John figuring out which ladies in their nice evening dresses worked as incall escorts during the day offering 30 minute sessions.

It is likely the same with SA. Sure there are women on Lisbon SA that do not work as escorts, but there are some who do. Many of us had a favorite Montreal escort who was a true stunner and a chameleon. She worked at an escort service during the day, often as an independent some evenings, did webcam most nights, and juggled twelve Sugar Daddies, several of whom thought she was exclusive with them. I am not sure she really intended for her customers to repeat that when doing reviews on the local Montreal board. She used more names than that chick we all studied about in high school psychology class, Sybil. Every market has plenty of chameleon escorts, including Lisbon. When doing SA they will not tell you they work as escorts. They will do the innocent little girl routine.

Lisbon doesn't have a poverty driven caste system for its sex workers like Mexico does. It isn't that difficult to find an English speaking escort to converse with for an hour or two in your room during sex. If you want that companionship to extend beyond your room, it isn't that difficult to find ones who will do long-term sessions that would include dinner and tourism. You aren't there to find your next kept woman, and you aren't likely wealthy enough to accomplish that anyway. While Lisbon does not have the barriers to entry for sex work that the USA And France do, it does, like all countries, have some barriers to entry, so there will certainly be some non-chameleon SA ladies.

The bottom line is this. SA has provided a very easy to use mechanism for educated, often younger, ladies to do sex work that does not feel to them like sex work. If you go through the hassles of communicating with them, and accept the risk of a disappointment occurring, you might snag a great evening with a college-aged lady who might not have otherwise done escorting. In my personal opinion, for Lisbon, it is not worth the effort and possibility of disappointment, compared to booking a reviewed and recommended escort for whatever time and activities you want. But that is just my opinion, and plenty of SA proponents would disagree. But that determination is still country specific. And Portugal is simply different than Mexico, the United States and France, and any other country you can think of.

[ExExpatriate]

From below. I think it's the first time I've seen 'SA' being mentioned. Can anyone help to provide more info on what 'SA' stands for?

Thanks again.Seeking Arrangement, the sugar baby dating site.

This is the best route to go if you think you would enjoy a more open, date format where you go out, enjoy some company and have a near-guaranteed hook-up. Selection also works (or can work) as if you were on a normal dating app -- you can feel out prospective "sugar babies" by messaging or even facetime. They often prefer it. The caveats are:

1) She does reserve the option of backing out. It's uncommon and she doesn't get paid, but it does happen. The flip side is you can back out freely too. This isn't a professional thing. It's amateur hour.

2) Because it's amateur hour, they aren't going to take requests unless it's something they genuinely want to do (A-level, etc.).

3) Since most of these women have day jobs and / or kids, their schedule isn't as open. Availability is mostly at night and you'll need to plan things like on a date. Spur of the moment stuff is less possible. This is where I run into problems, because I am usually available during the daytime and rarely know when until the day before or day of. Like I wrote, I would prefer the SA route under different circumstances. Mine don't work well for it.

[JohnD00]

You, Sir, have my recognition.

Thanks for the extensive explanation you've given. I couldn't ask for anything better.

I've now had a look at SA. And yes following your comments, given that I'll be in Lisbon for only a few days, it might not make sense for me to fork out the 300 or so Euros for a one time subs + then trying to fish out someone; I'm not a looker appearance wise, so I might not end up lucky after all.

So yea, basically. I'll stick to the reviews you good guys have generously provided throughout this forum.

And I'll be back for sure to give my 2 cents on how it went.

Once again, Mongerer88, thanks for that thorough explanation. I'm sure it'll be helpful to many others reading through.

Peace.


It stands for Seeking Arrangement. You can read the Seeking Arrangement forum here on ISG to more fully grasp the concepts.

You need to pay a fee and join Seeking Arrangement in order to view profiles. You will then be able to converse with the ladies. Any discussion of sex should be done outside of the Seeking Arrangement messaging system. Incredibly and probably idiotically, SA is USA Based and they need to avoid any connection with sex for money.

In theory, you are going on a date when using SA. Ideally, that date will involve a meal, companionship and sex.

Sometimes sex does not occur. That makes the times and relationships in which good sex does occur more valuable. If you ever played a game of chance at a county or state fair, you can appreciate the concept. Can't value winners without you and the crowd seeing some losers.

Let me be a skeptic when it comes to Lisbon and SA with respect to a short-term visitor.

In theory, according to the SA proponents, the women are not hookers. You will hear this most often from guys frequenting countries, particularly Mexico, where there exist a multitude of lower-end, less-educated, sex workers who would simply be incapable of maintaining a conversation in English with a traveler from the first world. SA provides a mechanism for "upper-end" sex workers to have relationships that are more like dating with wealthier tourists, many of whom spend a significant length of time there. Another country in which SA is popular is the United States. It is very difficult administratively for a lady to do independent escorting in the USA There are plenty to choose from, but due to the administrative hassles such as screening, USA Independent escorts charge a lot. USA Law enforcement has taken a complete hands-off approach to SA. So it has provided a mechanism for many ladies to effectively do sex work without concerns regarding law enforcement. Sex work is frowned upon throughout the world, so the dining, conversing, and potential for a quasi-relationship with a "regular" seems to provide some psychological benefit of her not "feeling like a hooker", and it seems that not "feeling like a John" does likewise for many guys.

Now, let's cut to the chase in Lisbon for a tourist. You need to ask yourself if you are going to be there long enough to not be emotionally devastated if you are the unlucky player at the carnival game who does not when the stuffed animal prize. In other words, what if you take her for a nice meal, and she just says thanks and nothing else happens? Not terribly likely, but it could occur.

You need to ask yourself if you value the time and companionship that occurs other than sex. If so, that is great, but also ask yourself if you would prefer the certainty of booking a well-reviewed escort who is known to speak English for a long enough period of time to include a meal and perhaps some tourism. There are an endless number of them. Several EP ladies, and independents such as Carolina Belmont and Rebeca Diniz are good candidates also.

You will never convince me that many of the ladies on SA in Lisbon are not also working as escorts. One humorous post on the local board regarding the Lisbon dinner clubs involved a local John figuring out which ladies in their nice evening dresses worked as incall escorts during the day offering 30 minute sessions.

It is likely the same with SA. Sure there are women on Lisbon SA that do not work as escorts, but there are some who do. Many of us had a favorite Montreal escort who was a true stunner and a chameleon. She worked at an escort service during the day, often as an independent some evenings, did webcam most nights, and juggled twelve Sugar Daddies, several of whom thought she was exclusive with them. I am not sure she really intended for her customers to repeat that when doing reviews on the local Montreal board. She used more names than that chick we all studied about in high school psychology class, Sybil. Every market has plenty of chameleon escorts, including Lisbon. When doing SA they will not tell you they work as escorts. They will do the innocent little girl routine.

Lisbon doesn't have a poverty driven caste system for its sex workers like Mexico does. It isn't that difficult to find an English speaking escort to converse with for an hour or two in your room during sex. If you want that companionship to extend beyond your room, it isn't that difficult to find ones who will do long-term sessions that would include dinner and tourism. You aren't there to find your next kept woman, and you aren't likely wealthy enough to accomplish that anyway. While Lisbon does not have the barriers to entry for sex work that the USA And France do, it does, like all countries, have some barriers to entry, so there will certainly be some non-chameleon SA ladies.

The bottom line is this. SA has provided a very easy to use mechanism for educated, often younger, ladies to do sex work that does not feel to them like sex work. If you go through the hassles of communicating with them, and accept the risk of a disappointment occurring, you might snag a great evening with a college-aged lady who might not have otherwise done escorting. In my personal opinion, for Lisbon, it is not worth the effort and possibility of disappointment, compared to booking a reviewed and recommended escort for whatever time and activities you want. But that is just my opinion, and plenty of SA proponents would disagree. But that determination is still country specific. And Portugal is simply different than Mexico, the United States and France, and any other country you can think of.

[JohnD00]

Thanks to you also, ExExpatriate, for providing an explanation when requested. And to the many advice you've given out through this forum. Been reading a lot of your posts for the past month.

As mentioned in the other reply. I'll be sticking to the reports you all lot have been providing on already tried and tested ladies out there.

Cheers.


Seeking Arrangement, the sugar baby dating site.

This is the best route to go if you think you would enjoy a more open, date format where you go out, enjoy some company and have a near-guaranteed hook-up. Selection also works (or can work) as if you were on a normal dating app -- you can feel out prospective "sugar babies" by messaging or even facetime. They often prefer it. The caveats are:

1) She does reserve the option of backing out. It's uncommon and she doesn't get paid, but it does happen. The flip side is you can back out freely too. This isn't a professional thing. It's amateur hour.

2) Because it's amateur hour, they aren't going to take requests unless it's something they genuinely want to do (A-level, etc.).

3) Since most of these women have day jobs and / or kids, their schedule isn't as open. Availability is mostly at night and you'll need to plan things like on a date. Spur of the moment stuff is less possible. This is where I run into problems, because I am usually available during the daytime and rarely know when until the day before or day of. Like I wrote, I would prefer the SA route under different circumstances. Mine don't work well for it.

[Harry1217]

Yes, for bookings / meets of 1-2 hours, many people may consider that they want the certainty of a well-reviewed escort. However, I can see people rolling the SA dice if they want outcall bookings of several hours or overnights; the EP rate for overnights is 1200 whereas people are reporting SA overnights at 250 - that is quite a difference! I say outcall bookings because the escort incall rates for overnights appear to be far less than 1200, making SA less financially beneficial.


It stands for Seeking Arrangement.

You need to ask yourself if you value the time and companionship that occurs other than sex. If so, that is great, but also ask yourself if you would prefer the certainty of booking a well-reviewed escort who is known to speak English for a long enough period of time to include a meal and perhaps some tourism.

If you go through the hassles of communicating with them, and accept the risk of a disappointment occurring, you might snag a great evening with a college-aged lady who might not have otherwise done escorting. In my personal opinion, for Lisbon, it is not worth the effort and possibility of disappointment, compared to booking a reviewed and recommended escort for whatever time and activities you want.

[ExExpatriate]

You need to ask yourself if you value the time and companionship that occurs other than sex. If so, that is great, but also ask yourself if you would prefer the certainty of booking a well-reviewed escort who is known to speak English for a long enough period of time to include a meal and perhaps some tourism. There are an endless number of them. Several EP ladies, and independents such as Carolina Belmont and Rebeca Diniz are good candidates also.

You will never convince me that many of the ladies on SA in Lisbon are not also working as escorts. One humorous post on the local board regarding the Lisbon dinner clubs involved a local John figuring out which ladies in their nice evening dresses worked as incall escorts during the day offering 30 minute sessions.

Good essay, Mongerer. I'll just add / confirm a couple of things.

Hiring and outcall escort for a date is expensive. One can and should neogitate, but lets say you were trying this with Carolina Belmont, and asked for four hours. She would start by asking for 800 euros. (because she's been trying to apply a tourist tax lately). Compare that against 250-300 flat going rate for SA. The ladies negotiate over these longer periods, but that is what you'd most likely be climbing her down from.

So for the dating style format, the only guy who should call someone like Carolina is one who is already staying at the Four Seasons. Ha!

I can confirm that many -- but certainly not most -- girls on SA are either current or former escorts. When I gave it a try a few years ago, I saw several familiar photos and faces. Most, however, were "retired. " They weren't advertising as escorts or massagistas on the regular advertising sites anymore. I suppose you could say they were still escorting, via SA, but infrequently and with the liberty of screening and declining clients.

I mentioned my semi-retired lady? She is exactly the type who might have switched to SA for a time... except she didn't need to. She had some old clients who could see her during her former incall hours, she genuinely liked them, and she treated it in a way that didn't feel like the job anymore. So she would make some time from her day job for it.

I firmly agree about the time angle. It's why I don't pursue SA. One would need to be in Lisbon for at least several days and have full command over their time to make good use of the SA format.

[JohnD00]

Been looking around further. And apart from SA. I found there's another sugardaddy like app. SB -Secret Benefits- is that used in Portugal also? Or any others like SA?

Of course apart from Tinder and OKCupid.

I will be having nearly 3 full days by myself with 3 days busy with work during the day with free evenings. Hopefully will be able to have some nice time.

Cheers all.


Good essay, Mongerer. I'll just add / confirm a couple of things.

Hiring and outcall escort for a date is expensive. One can and should neogitate, but lets say you were trying this with Carolina Belmont, and asked for four hours. She would start by asking for 800 euros. (because she's been trying to apply a tourist tax lately). Compare that against 250-300 flat going rate for SA. The ladies negotiate over these longer periods, but that is what you'd most likely be climbing her down from.

So for the dating style format, the only guy who should call someone like Carolina is one who is already staying at the Four Seasons. Ha!

I can confirm that many -- but certainly not most -- girls on SA are either current or former escorts. When I gave it a try a few years ago, I saw several familiar photos and faces. Most, however, were "retired. " They weren't advertising as escorts or massagistas on the regular advertising sites anymore. I suppose you could say they were still escorting, via SA, but infrequently and with the liberty of screening and declining clients..

[Stirling]

Lots of discussion and all good points. I believe Lisbon is the perfect city for SA. From my point of view, there was little financial risk. As mentioned in my previous post, I secured the company of young women for dinner and overnight stays for 250. Now, I planned on going out for dinner anyway, so all I had to bear was the additional cost for another individual. If, after dinner, she bailed, so be it. The date essentially would have cost me nothing and I had the enjoyment of a dinner companion. And, on returning to my room I could have called one of the available ladies on Apartadox or EP. Fortunately for me, all 3 dates worked out perfectly.

In other large centers where the ask is significantly larger, the risk might be amplified. However, given the relatively cheap cost associated with mongering in Lisbon, seemed like a worthwhile risk in my opinion.

P.S. As to whether the ladies I saw where escorts or former escorts. The first lady I have no idea, but I wouldn't be shocked tom learn she was a former working girl. The 2nd lady I saw, not a chance. She's a young ex-pat recently arrived in Lisbon.

Stirling.

[ExExpatriate]

When I tried the SA thing, I wrote many of the ladies were active or inactive escorts. Being as familiar as I am and having a long memory, I ran into at least one familiar face on every page of the SA search engine, and often more than one. Even so, it was well under half the total. 1/5 or 1/4 would be more accurate.

Within the group that were familiar from escort ads, most were inactives.

I didn't mean to imply most of the girls on SA were current or former escorts. Quite the contrary. Pros are a noticeable percentage, but not an overwhelming presence.

[JohnD00]

Thanks for additional comments Stirling.

I've seen on the other countries / locations boards that the guys were sharing the links of the SA ladies.

Don't know if that is allowed over here. But would you be willing to share the ones you got lucky with?

At 250 for overnight. It does really make it worthwhile.

As it stands. I might be going towards the mixed route of trying SA + the vetted ladies from EP already posted over here.

Cheers to all again.


Lots of discussion and all good points. I believe Lisbon is the perfect city for SA. From my point of view, there was little financial risk. As mentioned in my previous post, I secured the company of young women for dinner and overnight stays for 250. Now, I planned on going out for dinner anyway, so all I had to bear was the additional cost for another individual. If, after dinner, she bailed, so be it. The date essentially would have cost me nothing and I had the enjoyment of a dinner companion. And, on returning to my room I could have called one of the available ladies on Apartadox or EP. Fortunately for me, all 3 dates worked out perfectly.

In other large centers where the ask is significantly larger, the risk might be amplified. However, given the relatively cheap cost associated with mongering in Lisbon, seemed like a worthwhile risk in my opinion.

P.S. As to whether the ladies I saw where escorts or former escorts. The first lady I have no idea, but I wouldn't be shocked tom learn she was a former working girl. The 2nd lady I saw, not a chance. She's a young ex-pat recently arrived in Lisbon..

[Stirling]

Thanks for additional comments Stirling.

I've seen on the other countries / locations boards that the guys were sharing the links of the SA ladies.

Don't know if that is allowed over here. But would you be willing to share the ones you got lucky with?

At 250 for overnight. It does really make it worthwhile.

As it stands. I might be going towards the mixed route of trying SA + the vetted ladies from EP already posted over here.

Cheers to all again.Hi JohnDOO, I had a quick look on SA and the profiles of the ladies I saw are currently not there. I suspect they only reactivate them when they're looking for a date.

Stirling.

[Stradivari]

I was wandering around the area east of Martim Monz last night around 10 pm and saw no streetwalkers. Lots of guys in the streets hanging out and drinking but no action that I could discern. I'll check out Eduardo VII, Rua do Conde de Redonde and Anjos in the next couple of days because I'm staying nearby. Mansanto Forest is huge and wouldn't know where to begin.I was trying the area of Martim Moniz and Intendente three times at around 7 pm, 9:30 pm and around midnight. No WG to be seen except some very sincere drug users at a bus stop called "Socorro" / Rua the Mouraria. I walked some 100 ft down the are. Dos Cavaleiros but I started feeling unsecure and turned around.

I cannot imagine that a huge city like lisbon has nothing more than the escort scene but I did not discover it. And, in fact, I did very well with the escorts I tried, at least with Bela Soares.

[JohnD00]

Cheers mate.

Will try my luck and report back with anything.


Hi JohnDOO, I had a quick look on SA and the profiles of the ladies I saw are currently not there. I suspect they only reactivate them when they're looking for a date.

Stirling.

[Kama Leão]

I was trying the area of Martim Moniz and Intendente three times at around 7 pm, 9:30 pm and around midnight. No WG to be seen except some very sincere drug users at a bus stop called "Socorro" / Rua the Mouraria. I walked some 100 ft down the are. Dos Cavaleiros but I started feeling unsecure and turned around.

I cannot imagine that a huge city like lisbon has nothing more than the escort scene but I did not discover it. And, in fact, I did very well with the escorts I tried, at least with Bela Soares.But that's exactly the point: because the vast majority of escorts has managed to make a living working from appartments with no need of the harsh scene of SW, this is quickly vanishing. Intendente, for instance has become a trendy cafe / restaurants spot for tourists with only the odd junkie as a souvenir of the "bad ole times".

[Stradivari]

But that's exactly the point: because the vast majority of escorts has managed to make a living working from appartments with no need of the harsh scene of SW, this is quickly vanishing. Intendente, for instance has become a trendy cafe / restaurants spot for tourists with only the odd junkie as a souvenir of the "bad ole times".That's bad news for the lovers of the street scene but good news for the girls, all in total a good reason to be happy. Still astonishing that it happened. What is special with Lisbon that they managed to achieve what many other large cities did not achieve? But this is going off topic now.

[ExExpatriate]

I would be glad to see it wither away, at least for Lisbon. I imagine it will persist in other parts of the country.

I know it was alive and well a decade ago. Although I have always disdained that sort of thing, I would cross a major SW area on my way home. It was hard to miss. I also remember seeing these SW hanging out in front of isolated back roads in different areas, places one would cross when going to the more remote beaches. So clearly the locals knew where to go look for them.


But that's exactly the point: because the vast majority of escorts has managed to make a living working from appartments with no need of the harsh scene of SW, this is quickly vanishing. Intendente, for instance has become a trendy cafe / restaurants spot for tourists with only the odd junkie as a souvenir of the "bad ole times".

[Mongerer88]

I would be glad to see it wither away, at least for Lisbon. I imagine it will persist in other parts of the country.

I know it was alive and well a decade ago. Although I have always disdained that sort of thing, I would cross a major SW area on my way home. It was hard to miss. I also remember seeing these SW hanging out in front of isolated back roads in different areas, places one would cross when going to the more remote beaches. So clearly the locals knew where to go look for them.It is disappearing worldwide, thank god.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/why-sex-workers-are-disappearing-from-our-streets/662JRP6FHESOSS6G64YROT65N4/

I can't think of an advantage to its existence for anyone, particularly the sex workers.

Where it still appears to exist in Europe are places where there are women who simply have no resources at all, not even the funds to take out an advertisement and accept appointments on a smart phone. Of course some seed capital is necessary for incall or transportation to outcall.

Portugal seems to either forcibly detract, or not be desirable to, the lowest rung of the scene. It does not have the Asian massage places where the women live and work at the facility, eating their meals from a portable hot stove, just as it doesn't get Roma streetwalkers to join the last ranks of the few drug-addicted women still on the streets. I don't know if the relatively low Portugal price of a mid-to-upper level sex worker (compared to the rest of Europe and the Western World) simply makes Portugal of no interest to dirt poor Asian ladies and the gypsies, or if Portugal Vice has a way of shutting it down that isn't publicized.

[RedIce7]

Portugal seems to either forcibly detract, or not be desirable to, the lowest rung of the scene. It does not have the Asian massage places where the women live and work at the facility, eating their meals from a portable hot stove, just as it doesn't get Roma streetwalkers to join the last ranks of the few drug-addicted women still on the streets. I don't know if the relatively low Portugal price of a mid-to-upper level sex worker (compared to the rest of Europe and the Western World) simply makes Portugal of no interest to dirt poor Asian ladies and the gypsies, or if Portugal Vice has a way of shutting it down that isn't publicized.It died out because of internet. Before internet era girls had to actually go look for customers, now customers find them through online ads and WP. It's safer and more discrete and I like it more this way because street walkers would attract pimps and other shady individuals. If someone wants to see girl actually before you can go to brothels pretending to be massage spas, city center is filled with them. It allows the business to operate in higher-end areas of the city (like Saldanha) or residential buildings and attract customers that want to discrete.

[ExExpatriate]

It died out because of internet. Before internet era girls had to actually go look for customers, now customers find them through online ads and WP. It's safer and more discrete and I like it more this way because street walkers would attract pimps and other shady individuals. If someone wants to see girl actually before you can go to brothels pretending to be massage spas, city center is filled with them. It allows the business to operate in higher-end areas of the city (like Saldanha) or residential buildings and attract customers that want to discrete.To that I would also add the legalization of the sex work, while leaving pimping / brothels illegal. While there are many fictions for working around this, it still leaves plenty of safe space for independents to operate without fear of being harassed by organized crime.

[Kama Leão]

I would be glad to see it wither away, at least for Lisbon. I imagine it will persist in other parts of the country.Yes, I was talking about Lisbon, the city itself. It still exists - even if less and less - along some roads nearing the larger towns.

[Kama Leão]

To that I would also add the legalization of the sex work, while leaving pimping / brothels illegal. Sex work was not and is not legal or illegal. It is in a comfortably grey area where girls are free to work. Brothel owners and pimping are illegal.

[AkSmith]

Complete Idiot's Guide to Lisbon.

After reading the last 50 pages of the forum, I compiled a list of possible girls. I received some very helpful feedback from ISG members and even some contact details for a well-reviewed girl who doesn't advertise anymore. Since you can't guarantee that a specific girl will be available on a specific day, I created a long list with backup options. Most of the action in Lisbon (and Portugal in general) is independent escorts that advertise on two primary websites, Escort Privada and Apartadox. The girls on Escort Privada go to your hotel and charge 150 Euros per hour which usually includes DFK and BBBJ / CIM. The girls on Apartadox are a little cheaper at 120 Euros per hour and work out of "trick pads" or their own apartment. The Apartadox girls seem to have a shorter workday, often ending by 6 pm. That makes daytime tourism activities more difficult. Most Escort Privada girls were able to come to my hotel at 8 pm for 2 hours, which worked better with my schedule..This is a great source of information. Really appreciate it! I have a 6 hour layover in Lisbon and would like to get some outcall action based on your reviews from EP. Issue is that I don't have an overnight hotel and not sure if there are any hotels that let you book a room by the hour like in BCN. Have heard about Safira guesthouse, but not too sure how it would work out.

Any advice on how to do an outcall in this situation? Or what would be recommendation on incalls? Thanks much!

[ExExpatriate]

This is a great source of information. Really appreciate it! I have a 6 hour layover in Lisbon and would like to get some outcall action based on your reviews from EP. Issue is that I don't have an overnight hotel and not sure if there are any hotels that let you book a room by the hour like in BCN. Have heard about Safira guesthouse, but not too sure how it would work out.

Any advice on how to do an outcall in this situation? Or what would be recommendation on incalls? Thanks much!1) Call outcall-only escorts. Right now that means the Escort Privada girls and Catia Bom.

You don't want to bother with asking a primarily incall lady to do this, because the mark-up is steep and the chance she'll flake on you is higher.

2) You have a narrow window. Ask for appointments the day before. Most escorts are happy to take a booking one day in advance.

Unless your hotel is down by Entrecampos, Saldanha or Expo, I wouldn't bother with incall. Six hours... assuming time for a little rest, getting cleaned up, taking in a meal... you don't have much left for finding a house and getting in a good f*ck. The Uber/Taxi to and from the airport alone could chew up 40+ minutes. It's hemmed in and could be hectic UNLESS you can already walk there in like 10 minutes.

As for a low cost hotel, check the Star Inn. It's within walking distance of the airport, and the rate there is usually pretty low. Don't worry about hourly. Just get it and enjoy having the space to unwind in for several hours. The places that do charge hourly... well, the better ones are pretty far from the airport. The time and hassle might not be worth saving like 40 euros.

The elevator there is locked, but that only means you'll meet your company in the lobby. That is a common condition of these things. No one will bother you.

[Mongerer88]

This is a great source of information. Really appreciate it! I have a 6 hour layover in Lisbon and would like to get some outcall action based on your reviews from EP. Issue is that I don't have an overnight hotel and not sure if there are any hotels that let you book a room by the hour like in BCN. Have heard about Safira guesthouse, but not too sure how it would work out.

Any advice on how to do an outcall in this situation? Or what would be recommendation on incalls? Thanks much!Yes, Lisbon has short-time motels, which is how locals access EP.

Just ask EP for a recommendation regarding hotels. Send your WhatsApp message to Joanna's number. It is okay to do so in English. When Joanna is not personally monitoring her phone, the assistant that helps her is the most responsive. The advantage of a group like EP is that there are multiple ladies they can send if someone flakes.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/

For independents with a current ad who have great reviews and a history of being professional and diligent, this independent is one of the least likely to flake on you if you need an exact time for an appointment.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/

Six hours is a short time frame. Some have had great luck going to the Nuru Spa (try to call or WhatsApp them before hand and explain your situation and request the Relaxing Massage). Don't be too explicit regarding sex. Most appear to do BBBJ and CFS but technically they are not allowed to do so in a licensed massage parlor, so be discreet in communicating.

https://www.nuruspas.com/en/sobre

[ExExpatriate]

I'll be more specific here. I'm aware of three hourly rate "love motels," and all of them are in the exurbs. All of them are far enough out of the city that EP girls want travel money. Those look nice or very nice, but the minimum charge is for three or four hours, so the Uber + room + travel money for the girls will absolutely cost more than the Star Inn by the airport. Plus the inconvenience and lost travel time. I really think that is barking up the wrong tree, but EP may have workable solutions.

I just think you need to also treat your time as a commodity. Don't do stuff that unnecessarily whittles down your six hours. You may need them.

In Lisbon proper, the only hourly rate place I'm aware of is so seedy that I can only say "don't go there. " I feel strongly enough about it to refuse identification. And again, what is one really saving by taking an Uber back and forth from a bedbug-ridden flophouse in downtown Lisbon?


Yes, Lisbon has short-time motels, which is how locals access EP.

Just ask EP for a recommendation regarding hotels. Send your WhatsApp message to Joanna's number. It is okay to do so in English. When Joanna is not personally monitoring her phone, the assistant that helps her is the most responsive. The advantage of a group like EP is that there are multiple ladies they can send if someone flakes.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/

For independents with a current ad who have great reviews and a history of being professional and diligent, this independent is one of the least likely to flake on you if you need an exact time for an appointment.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/

Six hours is a short time frame. Some have had great luck going to the Nuru Spa (try to call or WhatsApp them before hand and explain your situation and request the Relaxing Massage). Don't be too explicit regarding sex. Most appear to do BBBJ and CFS but technically they are not allowed to do so in a licensed massage parlor, so be discreet in communicating.

https://www.nuruspas.com/en/sobre

[ExExpatriate]

I suspect Carolina Belmont has done a name change, and is now Lara Cortez.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-cortez-7973

[PER23]

I suspect Carolina Belmont has done a name change, and is now Lara Cortez.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-cortez-7973It's Camila Pereira in the infamous EP blonde wig. Exact same physical stats as the previous profile.

[Jportlis]

I will be in Lisbon at the end of June for 48 hours.

As it is my first time there I was wondering if I could ask some stupid questions.

Do the girls provide STI reports, or more so, how comfortable are you all that the girls are clean?

I am 100% clean. Even Herpes is something I am extremely concerned about staying away from. In Thailand the cost is low and taking girls to tests is super fast and efficient but I can't imagine that is the case in lisbon.

How far in advance do you need to book usually? I have a wish list based on the last 30 pages of this thread. I don't want to book two weeks early but I don't want to book to late and miss who I want.

I am happy to pay a premium for clean.

Lastly, do you have any recommendations for girls under 25 that are pretty slim and energetic.

[ExExpatriate]

I've never heard of a lady providing an STI test result on demand, let alone a recent one. As a rule, the ladies do put a high premium on hygenie. Some insist on covered oral, which should tell you how seriously those that do take the issue in general.

That said, just because it isn't spoken of doesn't mean it isn't possible. I don't think it would hurt to ask, but I advise you to be as polite/respectful as possible. Lead with your concerns. You don't want to come off as accusing someone of being a dirty *****, which is how it could be received.

Whenever I see someone on a forum asking why anybody would want a nuru massage ending only with an HJ or oral, no FS at all, your concern is the reason why. Some people have very low or zero tolerance for STI risk. Oral is very low risk and HJ is zero risk. The main clientele for those services either don't see it as cheating or want to reduce the risks of bringing something home down to none.


I will be in Lisbon at the end of June for 48 hours.

As it is my first time there I was wondering if I could ask some stupid questions.

Do the girls provide STI reports, or more so, how comfortable are you all that the girls are clean?

I am 100% clean. Even Herpes is something I am extremely concerned about staying away from. In Thailand the cost is low and taking girls to tests is super fast and efficient but I can't imagine that is the case in lisbon.

How far in advance do you need to book usually? I have a wish list based on the last 30 pages of this thread. I don't want to book two weeks early but I don't want to book to late and miss who I want.

I am happy to pay a premium for clean.

Lastly, do you have any recommendations for girls under 25 that are pretty slim and energetic.

[AkSmith]

I'll be more specific here. I'm aware of three hourly rate "love motels," and all of them are in the exurbs. All of them are far enough out of the city that EP girls want travel money. Those look nice or very nice, but the minimum charge is for three or four hours, so the Uber + room + travel money for the girls will absolutely cost more than the Star Inn by the airport. Plus the inconvenience and lost travel time. I really think that is barking up the wrong tree, but EP may have workable solutions.

I just think you need to also treat your time as a commodity. Don't do stuff that unnecessarily whittles down your six hours. You may need them.

In Lisbon proper, the only hourly rate place I'm aware of is so seedy that I can only say "don't go there. " I feel strongly enough about it to refuse identification. And again, what is one really saving by taking an Uber back and forth from a bedbug-ridden flophouse in downtown Lisbon?So I took all this advice into consideration and booked a hotel near the airport. Star Inn unfortunately was sold out for my dates but the one I got was 20 minutes from airport. I then reached out to a lot of the providers on EP on the day before, got some replies and few who said they could meet, but that they would confirm on the morning of. I started panicking the next day since I didn't have any confirmations and then ended up with Pureza Villar at short notice. My flight was delayed so the layover timing shrunk on me which is another thing that needs to be considered. She was Ok, the photos on EP are from few years ago. She was very friendly and accommodating, not going into too many details of the encounter.

The thing to be careful about in these circumstances is that there is no guarantee you will get someone who is a stunner, even after doing all the research and being selective. At the end of the day you just have to accept what it is (specially when you have a short window). Good luck to everyone!

[Jportlis]

Thanks for the reply.

My issue is bringing something home. That is the only no-go.

As a rule, and knowing no one will want to answer this, how many here have an STI, including herpes?

I will message a couple and gauge the best way to ask.

Where is the recommended hotel to stay at? I would also like to take in some of the regular sights and tourist things within walking distance.

I will use outcall only. Will always pay a premium for hygiene.


I've never heard of a lady providing an STI test result on demand, let alone a recent one. As a rule, the ladies do put a high premium on hygenie. Some insist on covered oral, which should tell you how seriously those that do take the issue in general.

That said, just because it isn't spoken of doesn't mean it isn't possible. I don't think it would hurt to ask, but I advise you to be as polite/respectful as possible. Lead with your concerns. You don't want to come off as accusing someone of being a dirty *****, which is how it could be received.

Whenever I see someone on a forum asking why anybody would want a nuru massage ending only with an HJ or oral, no FS at all, your concern is the reason why. Some people have very low or zero tolerance for STI risk. Oral is very low risk and HJ is zero risk. The main clientele for those services either don't see it as cheating or want to reduce the risks of bringing something home down to none.

[RatherBigOne]

I will be visiting for holiday reasons.

Are there any clubs / brothels one can walk in and see girls available for sex typical Spanish style / prices 70-100 Euros etc.

Clubs that also double as strip clubs or just a normal walk in and line up of girls type set up?

Thanks.

Wouldn't say no to online / whatsapp website escorts if anyone has recommendations also but prefer a walk in venue.

[Kama Leão]

As a rule, and knowing no one will want to answer this, how many here have an STI, including herpes?It is not a case of "not wanting to answer" but of the impossibility of doing it. Unless one of us has ever been infected with this or that disease (I haven't) and knows whom he got it from, the girls are certainly not going to declare they 're a dangerous proposition.

[Jportlis]

To be specific, I was wondering how many members here have caught an STI. BBBJ seems super popular here and Herpes is for life so I was just wondering.

And to my other question: Where is the best place to stay for outcall and to do some tourist sight seeing. Ideally 4-5 star. Just don't want outcall girls to say it is too far from where I am.


It is not a case of "not wanting to answer" but of the impossibility of doing it. Unless one of us has ever been infected with this or that disease (I haven't) and knows whom he got it from, the girls are certainly not going to declare they 're a dangerous proposition.

[ExExpatriate]

On the one hand, I think some participants in forums like this one are too dismissive of STI risks, and engage in kidding themselves. To answer your question directly, both HSV-1 and 2 can infect other parts of the body, so strictly speaking it is possible for oral herpes to get onto your genitals, although this is rare. Generally speaking, it is rare or only theoretical for any STI to transmit through oral, but it can happen. I am pretty sure I got chlamydia once from oral. It's important when talking about probabilities to realize you can have that extremely unlucky roll of the dice on your first go. Unlikely doesn't mean impossible.

The flip side of this is to realize that if you have had or do have a reasonably active single and dating life, you have already been exposed to and possibly contracted HSV and / or HPV already. Depending on the modeling, between 4/5's and 1/6 of the population has HPV already. And between 1/4 and 1/10 have genital herpes. If you've had several partners already, one of them was absolutely carrying one or the other. But the majority of people infected never display symptoms or display mild symptoms that then go away permanently.

I keep both these things in mind and more when making my choices.

As for location, anywhere in central Lisbon will be fine. If you are looking at 4 and 5 stars, then the girls will go to pretty much anywhere those can be found without complaint.


To be specific, I was wondering how many members here have caught an STI. BBBJ seems super popular here and Herpes is for life so I was just wondering.

And to my other question: Where is the best place to stay for outcall and to do some tourist sight seeing. Ideally 4-5 star. Just don't want outcall girls to say it is too far from where I am.

[Jacob8031]

Hello All, apologies for being late posting and thanks to all of the members who helped! Special thanks to ExExpatriate who guided me to how to book for an outcall. It was my first time in Lisbon and had pretty good expereince, I won't lie! I had been to Thailand, I would say if you can streamline your selection of girls, you will end up with the best ones! In my experience, it's nothing much short of my experience in Thailand!

1. YU Ferracini: It was outcall. She looks life the picture. English is fantastic as she was in England. Booking was super easy. Fantastic body as like the picture, attitude is top notch, kissing is very good. Only thing is that it's CBJ. She won't do BBBJ. Other than that she ticks all of the boxes. Rate- HH 90 bucks.

2. Patricia Navarro: It was outcall, rate was 80/ HH. Again, fantastic attitude, body is amazing. Boobs are not natural, BBBJ if you are clean. I think I was clean to her. LOL. Again fantastic service, but matains the timing very well. Like 30 minutes means 30 minutes.

3. Andreia Martins: Incall, rate was 150 for an hour. I managed only 1 shot. She is not super clean, but has very bubbly body. Not that beautiful, like the other 2's. But, the best BBBJ you can expect, nice ass for doggy. Attitude is not bad. I would repeat, just need to confirm that she takes a shower and can't kiss for long as she is a smoker, I guess!

4. Karol Prado: Outcall, rate was 60/ HH. The apartment was small, but clean! English is good as she was also in England. She provides ok service, body is like a true Brazilian. Attitude is fantastic, ask for what do you like or not! BBBJ is not that great, but overall service is ok. May repeat as she is GFE.

5. Eva Sanchez: Outcall, RR was 80/ HH. She has a body to die for! BBBJ is great! Very nice apartment. Service was a but mechanical! But, I won't repeat as the service is quite mechanical, bit if anyone wants to try a body to die for, then can try for once! LOL.

6. Yola Lopez: Black girl! RR was 80/ HH. Apartment is quite worn down! Attitude is awesome! You don't need to F* her, she will F* you, she is crazy! Believe me! Like a pornstar and will break your the*k! BBBJ is amazing! But, won't repeat as I didn't like the apartment! Got a bad smell!

Feel free to take any Qs if you have any! Thanks again.

[Jacob8031]

Being too late at posting my experience in Lisbon for the first time. I found the experience quite great! Thanks to members for all the members for sharing such valuable info. And, special thanks to ExExpatriate for providing some detailed info on arranging for outcall.

Yu Ferracini: outcall-90/ HH, such a nice personality, body is like picture, provides great service and English is very good, very clean and apartment is also nice. Only negative is CBJ. Other than that she is amazing! GFE experience! I would say 9/10.

Patricia Navarro: Another amazing lady, outcall-80/ HH; amazing body, pornstar experience, BBBJ if you are clean, I guess I was clean. Only drawback is boobs are not natural and maintains time very cautiously, like 30 minutes means 30 minutes; rating- 10/10 due to the overall experience.

Andriea Martins: Compared to the other 2 lady mentioned above, she is not upto the par! Her breath is not well as I do think she smokes! Not very attractive, except nice ass! But, her BBBJ is top notch! You will enjoy it to the last! And, for doggy, she is great! Rating: 7/10, repeat probably due to her BJ skill.

Eva Sanchez: Again, another killer body. Outcall for 80/ HH. Excellent apartment and she is very clean! Fantastic body. But, performance is quite mechanical, I would give 8/10, but won't repeat as performance is quite mechanical and not GFE! If you want a pornstar experience, then you try for one time!

Karol Prado: Very nice lady and amazing personality! English is good! 60/ HH incall. Body is amazing and same like picture! BBBJ skill is ok. But, she can provide great GFE experience. Rating 8/10 because of her attitude, not a time watcher as well. Rating- 8/10.

Yola Lopes: Amazing lady, body is ok. But, her performance is mazing, BBBJ skill is top notch! You don't need to F**K her, she will F*K you! LOL. But, I won't repeat cause the apartment is not clean and I got very bad smell! Other than that she is great! Rating-9/10.

[ExExpatriate]

I think you may be flipping the terms. Outcall is when the lady comes to your place. Incall is when you go to hers. But otherwise, thanks for the report.


Being too late at posting my experience in Lisbon for the first time. I found the experience quite great! Thanks to members for all the members for sharing such valuable info. And, special thanks to ExExpatriate for providing some detailed info on arranging for outcall.

Yu Ferracini: outcall-90/ HH, such a nice personality, body is like picture, provides great service and English is very good, very clean and apartment is also nice. Only negative is CBJ. Other than that she is amazing! GFE experience! I would say 9/10.

Patricia Navarro: Another amazing lady, outcall-80/ HH; amazing body, pornstar experience, BBBJ if you are clean, I guess I was clean. Only drawback is boobs are not natural and maintains time very cautiously, like 30 minutes means 30 minutes; rating- 10/10 due to the overall experience.

Andriea Martins: Compared to the other 2 lady mentioned above, she is not upto the par! Her breath is not well as I do think she smokes! Not very attractive, except nice ass! But, her BBBJ is top notch! You will enjoy it to the last! And, for doggy, she is great! Rating: 7/10, repeat probably due to her BJ skill.

Eva Sanchez: Again, another killer body. Outcall for 80/ HH. Excellent apartment and she is very clean! Fantastic body. But, performance is quite mechanical, I would give 8/10, but won't repeat as performance is quite mechanical and not GFE! If you want a pornstar experience, then you try for one time!

Karol Prado: Very nice lady and amazing personality! English is good! 60/ HH incall. Body is amazing and same like picture! BBBJ skill is ok. But, she can provide great GFE experience. Rating 8/10 because of her attitude, not a time watcher as well. Rating- 8/10.

Yola Lopes: Amazing lady, body is ok. But, her performance is mazing, BBBJ skill is top notch! You don't need to F**K her, she will F*K you! LOL. But, I won't repeat cause the apartment is not clean and I got very bad smell! Other than that she is great! Rating-9/10.

[Jportlis]

Been trawling through EP and Apartadox starting to make a list. Searching for reviews on each one.

So I only have Flora Neves and Irina Melo (who is away this month).

Can anyone suggest some outcall calls? Prefer under 25, slim, great BJ, and know how to take control.

I also saw Frederica Lima and her old reviews look great but recent ones look terrible so I am not sure.

Lastly, what is the local forum everyone talks about? This is the only forum I am on.

[ExExpatriate]

I'm not sure if we're allowed to post links to other forums. Chatter suggests otherwise?

But for EP girls with solid, good reputations and in their mid 20's or younger, regardless of type:

Bela Soares.

Francisca Vilar.

Natalia Freitas.

Eva Blanco.

There are other girls with a more mixed track record -- positive reviews outweigh negative reviews for sure, but that raises the question of types and parsing out why things were sour for that guy. Also are the few with just one positive mention thus far. There are also some solid ladies who are older that mid-20's. I'm not delving into these, since four more names out to be sufficient.


Been trawling through EP and Apartadox starting to make a list. Searching for reviews on each one.

So I only have Flora Neves and Irina Melo (who is away this month).

Can anyone suggest some outcall calls? Prefer under 25, slim, great BJ, and know how to take control.

I also saw Frederica Lima and her old reviews look great but recent ones look terrible so I am not sure.

Lastly, what is the local forum everyone talks about? This is the only forum I am on.

[EnthusiasticRe]

My first post here maybe but I've been taking advise from here and been to Nuru Spa Lisbon 4 times already, 2 of them being within the last month.

2 girls I had the service from are no longer there (it was beginnings of last year) so there is no point in taking about them. But the more recent ones:

Millah: had a "relaxing" massage with her and she literally came in the room to give all she can and enjoy herself too. That was one of the best experiences for me. Only time for condom use was during the intercourses. She even allowed oral on her (not everyone may be interested in here for safety).

Shr offered an absolute GF experience.

For anyone interested: boobs aren't natural.

Kyara: also very good service as millah, this one started with a very good massage first then let me take control. Did not give a BJ like millah (millah was amazing on that) but I did not ask for it either, maybe she would do it if we both felt like. She was still very much into it and enjoyed it herself too. Still a very good GF experience.

There is also Ravena, but I was told she does not do relaxing session.

[Blazzara]

Thank you everyone for all the reviews and information in this thread!

I'm in Lisbon next week and am hoping to meet some of the ladies.

In my home country, I usually go for PSE and enjoy woman with larger assets, not too skinny. I prefer older, more mature ladies, because they usually know what they want. I'm not into vanilla sex and rather enjoy a bit of a wilder encounter. I've seen a few young escorts that I vibe with, but I find it happens more with the mature ones.

From my browsing of this thread and the internet, my shortlist is down to:

- Alexandra Mendez: like I said, I don't mind older and from what I've read, she enjoys anal.

- Sara Valente: she seems to be the energy level I vibe best with from what I can tell. Looks are a factor for me and it seems folks don't find her facially attractive, so I'm hesitant. I do like a nice pair of big naturals though.

I'm also contemplating seeing both for a threesome. The pictures look very enticing: nice bums, nice tits, one fake, the other natural, one wild, the other into anal. Seems like it would be fun.

- Valeria Diaz: not going to lie, but her tits and especially nipples drew me in. I like big eraser nipples on a good set of boobs. Also one profile mentioned she squirts, no review confirms this though. A few reviews mention she seemed high during the session though, and that's a deal breaker for me. Now I'm torn.

I'm curious if I've missed anyone obvious? Any other recommendations for an experience on the naughty side, someone with nice big boobs, preferably enjoying anal, squirting is a plus, MILF-type ok?

Appreciate any pointers in advance!

Cheers.

[TheJunkLord]

Experts / Gurus,

Any recommendations for interactive B2 B with RO & OWO. Essentially a sensual experience but without sex. In Lisbon? I see a few spas like https://www.genuine-tantric.com and https://www.nuruspas.com but that seems to be a hit or miss even for an interactive experience. Don't want to get stuck with a vanilla HJ after all: the.

Any recommendations are welcome.

Thanks!

[ExExpatriate]

My suggestion is to steer towards spas and independent massagistas who offer FS, but tell them you want an OWO ending. The usual practice in such instances is to offer a small discount on B2 B FS rates.

Most of my recommendations on that line are not in Lisbon proper, but places like Alges and Linda-a-Vehla. So whether you can access them depends on if you have a rental car or are willing to foot the Uber bill. But they've been saying Nuru Spa is pretty good for that -- I just haven't paid much attention to it, since none of the massagistas strongly appealed to me.

Definitely avoid any actual spa that you don't know for a fact has FS on the menu. Most of them don't as a matter of house policy, so you won't be able to persuade anyone to do oral on the fly.


Experts / Gurus,

Any recommendations for interactive B2 B with RO & OWO. Essentially a sensual experience but without sex. In Lisbon? I see a few spas like https://www.genuine-tantric.com and https://www.nuruspas.com but that seems to be a hit or miss even for an interactive experience. Don't want to get stuck with a vanilla HJ after all: the.

Any recommendations are welcome.

Thanks!

[TheJunkLord]

Thanks! That was my thinking too. I can make it out to Alges and well for the right person even Linda-a-Vehla haha! And I saw your post (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?761-Lisbon&p=2802652&viewfull=1#post2802652) compiled list which was very helpful. Few links are dead, I assume they have moved on. Any recommendations outside this from recent experience?

Also question for all, any reviews to Elen & Joana? https://gostosas.pt/escort/eva-920276705 and https://www.apartadox.com/Massagista-Joana-Montenegro-4360 respectively.


My suggestion is to steer towards spas and independent massagistas who offer FS, but tell them you want an OWO ending. The usual practice in such instances is to offer a small discount on B2 B FS rates.

[Mongerer88]

Thanks! That was my thinking too. I can make it out to Alges and well for the right person even Linda-a-Vehla haha! And I saw your post (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?761-Lisbon&p=2802652&viewfull=1#post2802652) compiled list which was very helpful. Few links are dead, I assume they have moved on. Any recommendations outside this from recent experience?

Also question for all, any reviews to Elen & Joana? https://gostosas.pt/escort/eva-920276705 and https://www.apartadox.com/Massagista-Joana-Montenegro-4360 respectively.Elen's reviews on the local board aren't very good from a performance standpoint. All three reviews indicate the oral was covered, and two of the reviews say she simply doesn't hide the fact that she seems to hate what she does. She is described as hot.

Joanna Montenegro is the highest rated Escort Privada lady when you average the scores on the local board, here, the American review board, the British review board and the Canadian review board. She has that magical quality we wish they all had. She tries to understand what the customer wants and then she aims to please. BBBJTCIM is offered in addition to vaginal CFS and she is reviewed as being fetish friendly. She is fluent in English, engaging and stays the full time that was purchased.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/

[ExExpatriate]

So, as I wrote, if one wants a nuru massage with OWO finish, the best bet is to go to a provider who does FS. Back in the day, this was offered as a discounted service. They might not be doing it that way anymore, but most of the ladies in question do HJ, OWO or FS, and will be familiar with what you want.

At L'Essence in Alges, Carolina, Dara and Noah all have good reputations.

https://www.lessence.pt/

Diana PT is a MILF and has some bad reviews, but a largely positive reputation. She is now in Oerias.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/diana-portuguesa/

In Lisbon, Ana Lua is well-liked locally for being a reasonably priced worker. She is, however, a butterface:

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ana-lua/

Natalia Brandt in Expo is well-liked, and although she is primarily an escort, she does advertise on the massage site. So it's worth asking her if she does B2 B.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/natalia-brandt/

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-natalia-brandt-4789

Kelly has a middling reputation:

https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1151-kelly-massagista-sensual-lisboa

Vanessa is a veteran massagista, well-regarded and does what you need. She is in Alfragide:

https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/758-vanessinha-massagista-sensual-lisboa

[XXL]

I don't see any data on rates on this thread. What's the standard starting price for short time at a girl's place? If the girl comes to your place? I'm trying to figure out how expensive Portugal is compared to other EU venues.

[ExExpatriate]

Another massagista who will probably accommodate OWO is Lia:

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/aida-lia/

I thought she had stopped advertising, but there she is.

Incall, photo-verified escorts are charging between 120-150/ h now, with very few charging less. Outcall is 150-200. Nuru massages ending in HJ should be in the 100 to 130 range.

Some providers will ask for more, but only a very, very few are worth the mark-up.

[BB2206]

In addition to Joana and Flora, give Sara Valente of EP a look. I did a threesome with her and Alexandria and Sara can really carry a threesome. She is genuinely bisexual, very outgoing and speaks perfect English.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/

As noted in the many reviews Joana and Flora have prettier faces than Sara. I don't think you could go wrong with any of the three.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/

https://escortprivada.com/escort/flora-neves/I was thinking of booking Sara and Alexandria when I go up to lisbon next week. How was that experience?

[Mongerer88]

I was thinking of booking Sara and Alexandria when I go up to lisbon next week. How was that experience?I am not as into threesomes as a lot of guys. But it was good. Sara and Alexandria are friends in real life, so they genuinely fuck each other. Anal will probably be available with Alexandria and anal won't be available with Sara. Sara's BBBJTCIM is by far better than Alexandria. They are both in their 30's, EP never updates its website profiles.

[BB2206]

I am not as into threesomes as a lot of guys. But it was good. Sara and Alexandria are friends in real life, so they genuinely fuck each other. Anal will probably be available with Alexandria and anal won't be available with Sara. Sara's BBBJTCIM is by far better than Alexandria. They are both in their 30's, EP never updates its website profiles.Ooh that is awesome, I do enjoy the threesomes but I hate it if the girls aren't really into each other. Lesbian is fun but fesbian (fake lesbian) isn't.

Cheers for that monger. I was also thinking of Joana Montenegro and flora neves as a threesome but if you say they are friends in real life that is going to be awesome then.

[RobotoVoice]

For those of you who have hired outbound girls, is it the girl who brings the equipment (condoms) or am I expected to have that stuff at my place?

Anything else I should keep in mind?

[CrazyCalabrese]

Met up with her last week. 30 minutes BJ only session I asked for. She asked for 100 I didn't feel like haggling so I said yes. She's very nice engaging by text. Her ad isn't up for the moment on portalprivado because she said she was going on vacation for a bit but that's the site her ad was on and will prob be on when she gets back. She receives in a very nice apt (used by others as well is my understanding) near roma station. She was dressed in a lovely bra / thong outfit. Looked close to her pictures. Implant DD not the best for me but her body was nice. Good booty. BBBJ was top 5 all time. She went nuts. Any position, multiple techniques, non-stop enthusiasm for the 30 minutes without asking me to cum early. Doing her best to make me feel like she was enjoying. Deepthroat pretty much unless you're 7 inches+ I would say. CIM no problem without asking. Would def repeat. Sorry deleted her number but if you search isis lisboa in the usual sites for lisbon you should find her when she gets back.

[Mongerer88]

Ooh that is awesome, I do enjoy the threesomes but I hate it if the girls aren't really into each other. Lesbian is fun but fesbian (fake lesbian) isn't.

Cheers for that monger. I was also thinking of Joana Montenegro and flora neves as a threesome but if you say they are friends in real life that is going to be awesome then.Joana puts her all into a session and one of her best reviews is from a couple who reviewed her and said she was really into the wife. So I think she is genuinely bisexual. And Flora gets excellent reviews. So I don't think you could go wrong with that choice, either. Joana and Flora will be a few years younger than Sara and Alexandra, if that is important to you. Keep in mind that scheduling is an issue with EP since all of the ladies have jobs and / or school outside of this work, so it is good to have more than one option.

[ExExpatriate]

No need to furnish condoms, not unless you have a preference. They bring them.

Be aware that although you won't be bothered about your guests by any hotel, some have keycard-locked elevators. You should tell your outcall girl if the elevator is locked, so you can plan to meet at the door or in the lobby.

I'm glad to see someone give Isis Lisboa a go. I've been endorsing her for a long time now. A lady who charges 150 an hour usually asks 80 for half an hour, so you probably got the tourist tax. That said, if you got exactly what you wanted, then it sounds like she earned the built-in tip.

[Front604]

Hello everyone!

After quite some time I will be travelling to Portugal again and I want to make the trip worth the time.

I am also looking for a good threesome experience. Besides from Sara and Alexandra (should have booked them the last time instead of Soraia) and Joana with maybe a girl if her preference (are there any other recommendations (can also be independents if the general reviews are good)?

I also like the exotic touch of Ebony girls. Are there any experiences to the ones from Escort Privada? Couldn't find any on the local board.

I will of course share my experience in return.

[ExExpatriate]

Here is another independent FS massagista I just noticed under discussion on the local board. She has a studio near Saldanha, and seems well-liked. She will probably do OWO finish if asked.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/raquel-portuguesa/

And this newbie, found at Authentic Spa in the same general area, just got high marks for FS massage. Again, will do OWO finish for sure.

https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1352-sami-massagista-sensual-lisboa

[ExExpatriate]

At present, I can't make a better suggestion, other than to ask a lady you really have the hots for if she does duos and has a regular partner to check out.


Hello everyone!

After quite some time I will be travelling to Portugal again and I want to make the trip worth the time.

I am also looking for a good threesome experience. Besides from Sara and Alexandra (should have booked them the last time instead of Soraia) and Joana with maybe a girl if her preference (are there any other recommendations (can also be independents if the general reviews are good)?

I also like the exotic touch of Ebony girls. Are there any experiences to the ones from Escort Privada? Couldn't find any on the local board.

I will of course share my experience in return.

[Kama Leão]

Another massagista who will probably accommodate OWO is Lia:

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/aida-lia/

I thought she had stopped advertising, but there she is.Aida Lia is a very good choice in a sweet and slow mode. She does offer OWO which, like everything else, is performed in a very tender, loving way. This Bangladesh lady is a perfect example of what GFE should always be.

[Front604]

At present, I can't make a better suggestion, other than to ask a lady you really have the hots for if she does duos and has a regular partner to check out.Hmm.

Do you have any outcall recommendations? I do not really have a specific type, as long as the service is good GFE I am very open.

[Pecadozinho]

Aida Lia is a very good choice in a sweet and slow mode. She does offer OWO which, like everything else, is performed in a very tender, loving way. This Bangladesh lady is a perfect example of what GFE should always be.Unfortunately, although I did try, I was never able to meet her. I know from reading only in this forum that used to offer FS. Is that still the case? Does it depend on the particular client? I hope to try again next month.

[Pecadozinho]

Here is another independent FS massagista I just noticed under discussion on the local board. She has a studio near Saldanha, and seems well-liked. She will probably do OWO finish if asked.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/raquel-portuguesa/

And this newbie, found at Authentic Spa in the same general area, just got high marks for FS massage. Again, will do OWO finish for sure.

https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1352-sami-massagista-sensual-lisboaI can't help asking: Is it possible to privately negotiate full service at Authentic Spa?? I wan unlucky on this front, too. Does one have to request a particular therapist in advance?

[Amsgmx]

Unfortunately, although I did try, I was never able to meet her. I know from reading only in this forum that used to offer FS. Is that still the case? Does it depend on the particular client? I hope to try again next month.She is back working saw het last month. She prefers to give massages with a HJ. Even though I had a shower at her place she still insisted on Oral with and did not do FS. But she makes up for that by being very beautiful, elegant and very attentive.

[ExExpatriate]

So here is thing. Sami's reviews indicate she gives full service. But if she is at Authentic Spa, it's possible that place has a house policy. I've never inquired there, but just being aware of who has been on the roster, there have been some massagistas who do full service and some who definitely do not.

So that place is a grey area. I'm not sure what to make of it.

As for trying to make a private arrangement, it's taking your chances. I mean, I'm fully aware of instances of massagistas doing guys at seriously HJ-only spas simply because the lady fancied them. Nothing extra paid. Stuff happens. That has happened to me, twice! The issue is whether you can count on it or want to roll the dice.


I can't help asking: Is it possible to privately negotiate full service at Authentic Spa?? I wan unlucky on this front, too. Does one have to request a particular therapist in advance?

[TheJunkLord]

A few of us ended up visiting Nuruspas branch in Lisboa and met Millah https://www.nuruspas.com/en/service-page/millah-1 and while I didn't opt for FS, everything else was served up. None of the girls there speak english, so talking to them is difficult. The receptionist was a dude this time around and I didn't get into details with him either. Essentially, just play the cards with the masseuse and make the moves. Obviously the place is expensive and you can get like services or FS via other SPs at 180/ hour or cheaper but this is just easier as a tourist.

The place is spotless, well maintained, no clock watching (we were there for around 80 minutes 1 hour booking) and hot girls. Speaking specific of Millah, very cute girl with good attitude. However, didn't like the bolt-ONS, just feels wrong in hand but like I said, without discussing anything upfront we started off with DFK, body kisses, massage, OWO, RO and HR at the end. Kyara also offers the same, but you need to sort of make it happen in the room Hope the details helps fellow horny travellers!!

[Kama Leão]

She is back working saw het last month. She prefers to give massages with a HJ. Even though I had a shower at her place she still insisted on Oral with and did not do FS. But she makes up for that by being very beautiful, elegant and very attentive.Maybe she changes her attitude according to her perception of the clients. In the two or three times I was with her, she always offered FS and BBBJ.

[Amsgmx]

Maybe she changes her attitude according to her perception of the clients. In the two or three times I was with her, she always offered FS and BBBJ.Clearly you are very handsome and able to make her comfortable!

When was the last time you were with her as maybe she did before?

[Front604]

So I Organized a Duo tonight with Debora Dias and Francisca Vilar from EP.

Couldn't find any red flags, so I am curious on how that will go down.

[ExExpatriate]

Francisca came from Porto, where she had a strong reputation. I can't speak to Dias; not my type. Good luck!


So I Organized a Duo tonight with Debora Dias and Francisca Vilar from EP.

Couldn't find any red flags, so I am curious on how that will go down.

[Pyrrhus]

I wrote this report after my encounter with Margarida Vaz back in November 2022 but, for whatever reason, I never uploaded it. I just stumbled across it, and since she appears to still be advertising on escortprivada, I figured I may as well post it. Just bear in mind that this encounter happened almost 9 months ago. For anybody wondering, the action took place in the dining room of the place where I was staying because I didn't want to risk getting my bed sheets dirty.

Margarida Vaz arrived within five minutes of our agreed time. Although, I was very happy with her appearance, she didn't really look how I'the expected based on the reviews I'the read.

I'the previously read about how young she looked and how hot her body was – this was primarily what made me choose her. Personally, I didn't think she looked particularly young FOR HER AGE. She told me she was 19, and while I don't doubt this is true, I thought she looked quite mature for a 19 year old. Maybe it was due to the amount of makeup she was wearing, but I felt she could easily pass for 22 or 23, maybe 24. Perhaps I am more sensitive to this because I tend to almost exclusively go for 18 and 19 year olds. Her body was very nice – true to the pictures (although more tanned) – but again, more womanly than I'the usually associate with a girl of that age.

Her face is very pretty and reminded me of a young Jorgie Porter.

Upon arrival, she informed me that she had already showered. She undressed, and after awkwardly groping her for a few minutes, I asked her to kneel down. Her BBBJ skills left plenty of room for improvement but she wasn't deliberately holding back. It was enjoyable.

Following that, I asked her to lie down on the dining table. After pulling up a chair, I feasted on her rather sublime ****. I'll sing her praises here: her pussy really was very eye pleasing. She came after about 10 minutes. I'the have preferred her to groan a bit louder but I enjoyed watching her facial expressions.

I then asked her to lie on the floor and I pounded her for a good 10 minutes or so. As others have stated, she wasn't very proactive – but I didn't mind all that much. When I felt close to coming, I pulled out and knelt over her face. Pulling my condom off, it had been my intention to jizz my 7-day build-up all over her face but she quite comically proclaimed, "Do it in my mouth or you'll spoil my beautiful makeup!" I think she was only joking and wouldn't have stopped me (and I kind of regret it now) but I chose to spare her the anguish and put my dick into her mouth. While sucking me off, I took her hand and placed it on my perineum, which she preceded to stroke. Ideally, I'the have liked her to slip her finger into my ass but I knew this would have required Google Translate and I didn't want to spoil the flow. Soon enough, I shot my load into her mouth.

By this point about 35 minutes had passed. I slipped my lounge pants back on (because nobody wants to see my freshly spent dick dangling about) and she perhaps mistook this as a sign that I'the finished as she started to get dressed herself. I asked her not to and so she stopped after putting her underwear back on. We chatted for the next 10 minutes – and although it's possible I may have recovered sufficiently for second innings, it would have been a struggle.

When she left, she'the only been here for roughly 45 minutes – but she never needed to use the shower or attempted to waste time so I have no real complaints.

She was a nice girl and I enjoyed her company. As I've said in earlier posts, I don't usually pay as much as 150 Euros – and while I don't regret paying that much for her, she wasn't sufficiently remarkable that I'm tempted it to see her again. If I had more money to spare or if her price was lower then I would probably consider it.

[Front604]

Francisca came from Porto, where she had a strong reputation. I can't speak to Dias; not my type. Good luck!Well, I can only confirm that. Good and bad.

She is more girl next door, which is a look I like. Has some tattoos but I did not find them disturbing and interesting stories to tell about those.

She definitely has a great personality, is funny and definitely seems to like what she is doing. Very much passion and kissing etc.

Indeed her BJ was okay but I had better. Still makes up for it with everything else. I would meet her again.

Deborah has a very fit body. Very nice dark skin and also a great personality. Her English is not that good so she was a bit quiet but also very passionate in bed.

They both also harmonized pretty well with each other, so all in all it was very enjoyable and the has very good BJ skills.

So as a Duo a can indeed recommend both. For a single encounter I am thinking about meeting Francisca again, because she really gave me the illusion of a genuine and spontaneous hook-up. For a single session Deborah's English is not good enough, so I might only want to see her again in a duo session.

[Pyrrhus]

Not sure why my report below has had every apostrophe-the changed to an apostrophe-the. I did not write it that way.

[Pyrrhus]

There is a problem with the way this site is editing posts (presumably automatically.).

My past two posts have had numerous instances of the letter 'd' changed to 'the' and the results make no sense.

[A Wild Potato]

Visiting Lisbon in a few weeks, I would love your input in the outcall department.

Looking for 20-25 yo, cute, next doors petite brunette, doing BBBJCIM with a GFE approach, chatty and intelligent, bonus if a-level.

Obvious ones would be.

Flora Neves; ISG's sweetheart.

Catia Bom; but does she lean into the bimbo department?

Jude; who's add just disappeared from eurogirl (a gorgeous redhead), redflag?

Ana Lucia; seemingly a perfect match.

Juice; for a pornstar BJ experience.

Bela Soares; another seemingly perfect match.

Aurora Alfaiate; same.

Risky ones might be.

Eva Branco; which divides.

Julieta Gomez; with mixed reviews.

Anair from EGE, Eller Rocha from AP; feeling like hit or miss energy.

Margarida Vaz; but dyes in blond.

Adriana Santos; same.

Dice rollers.

Isabela Zaz; which seems too good to be true and unreviewed.

Ana Carol Leite; same.

Lilith Sage; same.

Duda Lopez; right in my alley but unreviewed.

Vanessa Morais; reported not to be her.

Larissa Manoelle; with lovely curly hair.

Raissa Reis; with no review in sight.

[ExExpatriate]

You've done your homework!

Flora fits your bill in all respects but one: she is tall, not petite. Bela is also a pretty good fit for you.

I think you've read Catia Bom correctly -- I wouldn't call her for the witty banter. Aurora recently got a bad review, which could be just one unhappy client, a bad day or could be signs of burnout.

Eller doesn't speak English.

I think Julieta Gomes is the former Vera Guerra, in which case she is widely disliked for providing crap service.

Lilith Saga and Ana Carol Leite are both on my list to possibly visit. But reports say Saga is pretty expensive. Leite works in Cascais. Both a predominantly incall girls, so both will want more money than Catia Bom or an EP girl. Substantially more, given what Saga's base incall rate is and Leite will probably want you to pay for transportation from Cascais.

You should also look at Francisca Vilar, Natalia Freitas, Filipa Marques and Ines Pires.

[Mongerer88]

On the younger side for EP, You should take a long, hard took at these two. I think you should consider them in front of Margarida Vaz, honestly.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-natalia-freitas-7541

https://escortprivada.com/escort/natalia-freitas/

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-celine-luz-8093

https://escortprivada.com/escort/celine-luz/

Natalia has been getting 9's and 10's in her local board reviews from experienced reviewers.

Celine got a very solid 8 out of 10 review from an experienced reviews. All services listed on the EP profiles for Natalia and Celine were confirmed in the reviews.

Unfortunately due to a 2 out of 10 and 4 out of 10 review from an experienced reviewer, Clara Mendes has likely achieved Hesistate to See status.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/clara-mendes/


Visiting Lisbon in a few weeks, I would love your input in the outcall department.

Looking for 20-25 yo, cute, next doors petite brunette, doing BBBJCIM with a GFE approach, chatty and intelligent, bonus if a-level.

Obvious ones would be.

Flora Neves; ISG's sweetheart.

Catia Bom; but does she lean into the bimbo department?

Jude; who's add just disappeared from eurogirl (a gorgeous redhead), redflag?

Ana Lucia; seemingly a perfect match.

Juice; for a pornstar BJ experience.

Bela Soares; another seemingly perfect match.

Aurora Alfaiate; same.

Risky ones might be.

Eva Branco; which divides.

Julieta Gomez; with mixed reviews.

Anair from EGE, Eller Rocha from AP; feeling like hit or miss energy.

Margarida Vaz; but dyes in blond.

Adriana Santos; same.

Dice rollers.

Isabela Zaz; which seems too good to be true and unreviewed.

Ana Carol Leite; same.

Lilith Sage; same.

Duda Lopez; right in my alley but unreviewed.

Vanessa Morais; reported not to be her.

Larissa Manoelle; with lovely curly hair.

Raissa Reis; with no review in sight.

[Landfill2]

I'll be in Lisbon / Porto in a few weeks and have been keeping an eye on what escorts are available on EP and Apartadox. It seems like in the last few weeks the escorts I've been wanting to see have not been showing available. Does anyone know if the available girls they show is accurate? I'm hoping to meet a lot of them and report out. I went a few years ago and had trouble setting up appointments with a lot of the models and just want to keep my expectations in line.

[ExExpatriate]

If an ad disappears, that means the escort really is unavailable -- moved away, retired, gone on holiday, otherwise indisposed.

But if you mean the green dot / appearing in the "available now" section, all that means is a given escort is free and wants to be called. The majority of the ladies never use that function. So, just because you never see a profile with a green dot doesn't mean it's inactive.

If you can see the profile at all, the lady is working to at least some degree.


I'll be in Lisbon / Porto in a few weeks and have been keeping an eye on what escorts are available on EP and Apartadox. It seems like in the last few weeks the escorts I've been wanting to see have not been showing available. Does anyone know if the available girls they show is accurate? I'm hoping to meet a lot of them and report out. I went a few years ago and had trouble setting up appointments with a lot of the models and just want to keep my expectations in line.

[Kama Leão]

But if you mean the green dot / appearing in the "available now" section, all that means is a given escort is free and wants to be called. It may also mean that the lady with the green dot is desperately lacking in visitors and needs to use that to improve her situation.

[PTViking]

I've been reading this thread for the past few days. I'm looking to spend a night with a girl with large breasts and a big butt. I mean the bigger the better. The other thing I'm looking for is anal.

The girl I've had my eye on is Valentina Ferraz (https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-valentina-ferraz-4188). Any other recommendations?

[Mongerer88]

I've been reading this thread for the past few days. I'm looking to spend a night with a girl with large breasts and a big butt. I mean the bigger the better. The other thing I'm looking for is anal.

The girl I've had my eye on is Valentina Ferraz (https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-valentina-ferraz-4188). Any other recommendations?Valentina Ferraz gets very good reviews on the local board from experienced reviewers. 7's, 8's and 9's. All but one of the reviews of her is BBBJ. The last review was CBJ, and that reviewer has many BBBJ reviews, so I am not sure what happened.

For other ladies with the type of body you want, you might also consider this very highly rated and constantly reviewed independent.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827

And these two EP ladies, with Alexandra usually offering anal sex.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-branco/

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-alexandra-mendes-2491

[ExExpatriate]

Patricia Navarro for sure.

https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1160

Yu has a high reputation, but I don't pay that close attention to her -- not my type.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-yu-ferracini-6467


I've been reading this thread for the past few days. I'm looking to spend a night with a girl with large breasts and a big butt. I mean the bigger the better. The other thing I'm looking for is anal.

The girl I've had my eye on is Valentina Ferraz (https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-valentina-ferraz-4188). Any other recommendations?

[PTViking]

Thanks for the recs! Nertheless I'm really looking for anal with a girl with a massive ass and tits.


Patricia Navarro for sure.

https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1160

Yu has a high reputation, but I don't pay that close attention to her -- not my type.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-yu-ferracini-6467

[RobotoVoice]

Thanks for the recs! Nertheless I'm really looking for anal with a girl with a massive ass and tits.I frequented Patricia 3 times now. My last visit was yesterday. She is great but she does not do anal!

[Mike Honcho]

Gentlemen,

Have been reading up on your little slice of heaven here as far back as 10 pages. I'm a German expat living in the USA, and I get my fair share of Latin temptations by heading down to Mexico. I have extensively hobbied for over a decade now, but I have never made my way to Portugal nor Spain, and was weighing the options between the two as I'm looking at wrapping up my time in the USA and returning to Europe. Iberia will probably not be my next trip, but it's high on the list.

Some questions: I am seeing one of the sites mentioned (escortprivada.com) listing hourly rates for girls at 150 euros. Is this all-inclusive, or like the rest of Europe a base rate with upcharges for upgrades? My other question is that I saw some mentions of spas including a really upscale nuru spa with gorgeous massueses (though upcharges were mentioned). Barcelona seems to be more ripe for brothels masquerading as massage parlors / spas similar to the estetica masculinas of Guadalajara, Mexico, which I'm a huge fan of having in plentiful supply for quick and easy service in between longer sessions with escorts. Would anyone recommend the spa scene in Portugal over Spain, or vice versa?

-Mike.

[Harry1217]

You'll find Lisbon EP ladies tend to give a more inclusive service for the standard fee, than ladies in other countries. Extra costs tend to be for things such as anal and rimming you. Things such as DFK, OWO and CIM are included if the lady provides that service (which is vast majority). Just be clear in the communication on which services you want.

I can't comment too much on comparisons to Spain, but Lisbon is short on spa's / massage outlets which could provide you with both a sensual massage and full service. In fact, Lisbon is short on brothels full stop. You have noted one of the few places (nuruspas.com) where people are able to combine massage with full service (but read the thread as not all ladies will provide full service). There are independent solo ladies combining massage with full service, but I don't think that's what you're after.


Gentlemen,

Have been reading up on your little slice of heaven here as far back as 10 pages. I'm a German expat living in the USA, and I get my fair share of Latin temptations by heading down to Mexico. I have extensively hobbied for over a decade now, but I have never made my way to Portugal nor Spain, and was weighing the options between the two as I'm looking at wrapping up my time in the USA and returning to Europe. Iberia will probably not be my next trip, but it's high on the list.

Some questions: I am seeing one of the sites mentioned (escortprivada.com) listing hourly rates for girls at 150 euros. Is this all-inclusive, or like the rest of Europe a base rate with upcharges for upgrades? My other question is that I saw some mentions of spas including a really upscale nuru spa with gorgeous massueses (though upcharges were mentioned). Barcelona seems to be more ripe for brothels masquerading as massage parlors / spas similar to the estetica masculinas of Guadalajara, Mexico, which I'm a huge fan of having in plentiful supply for quick and easy service in between longer sessions with escorts. Would anyone recommend the spa scene in Portugal over Spain, or vice versa?

-Mike.

[Mongerer88]

Gentlemen,

Have been reading up on your little slice of heaven here as far back as 10 pages. I'm a German expat living in the USA, and I get my fair share of Latin temptations by heading down to Mexico. I have extensively hobbied for over a decade now, but I have never made my way to Portugal nor Spain, and was weighing the options between the two as I'm looking at wrapping up my time in the USA and returning to Europe. Iberia will probably not be my next trip, but it's high on the list.

Some questions: I am seeing one of the sites mentioned (escortprivada.com) listing hourly rates for girls at 150 euros. Is this all-inclusive, or like the rest of Europe a base rate with upcharges for upgrades? My other question is that I saw some mentions of spas including a really upscale nuru spa with gorgeous massueses (though upcharges were mentioned). Barcelona seems to be more ripe for brothels masquerading as massage parlors / spas similar to the estetica masculinas of Guadalajara, Mexico, which I'm a huge fan of having in plentiful supply for quick and easy service in between longer sessions with escorts. Would anyone recommend the spa scene in Portugal over Spain, or vice versa?

-Mike.Lisbon has the fewest ladies together in one place at the same time in all of the European countries friendly to this activity.

It just isn't how it is done. Brothels are technically illegal. As Harry1217 noted, Nuruspa is the one place that quietly has ladies at the same place at the same time who generally do full service. Just don't wake the whole neighborhood up about it. Ask for the relaxing massage and the lady should get the picture. If not just politely ask within the room.

Portugal isn't a big upsell country. Escort Privada, which is outcall only, lists the upsell, if any, that each lady offers for certain services, usually CIM and anal. For many EP ladies, the 150 euros still covers everything for the hour.

The Portuguese providers are professional. They communicate via Whtsapp, and if you make an appointment, she will be there and you will get your booked time. It is a great city, so you will enjoy your trips to her incall location if you do incall instead of outcall. Uber is available in Lisbon.

There are a lot of guys on ISG who simply can't deal with treating a sex worker as an equal, making an appointment on a smart phone, and keeping it. I don't know why that is.

The last ten pages give you many ladies to choose from. This lady, Ines, gets nothing but great reviews, and she just got another one on the big American review board. I am not sure she has been mentioned in the last ten pages.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/

The lady I saw last time, Rebeca Diniz, isn't running a current ad, but I can private message you her WhatsApp number if you want.

Lisbon has more quality ladies to see than you will have time to see.

Spain is also great. For Barcelona, you do get the shared private apartments like Vecinitas, Aribau 11 X, teensbcn, and ElEden53. They tend to be appointment oriented, but once you go to the facility once, you know where it is at for return visits. Of course Barcelona and Madrid have an endless number of quality independents, just like Lisbon does.

At the end of the day, they aren't that much different to an American.

[Jarango]

I found down the bottom of the hill from that good. Bonked Africans, 20 e for them and the same for the room. Locals into crystal meth and smack. Cheap but a real case of shopping carefully. Africans train in from Madrid, or so they say, so their relatives won't know their game. Nice ladies, passive bonks. Condoms seemed to be core. Junkies jacking up after the first round may not be for everyone. We are talking street walking here.

[Kama Leão]

I found down the bottom of the hill from that good. Bonked Africans, 20 e for them and the same for the room. Locals into crystal meth and smack. Cheap but a real case of shopping carefully. Africans train in from Madrid, or so they say, so their relatives won't know their game. Nice ladies, passive bonks. Condoms seemed to be core. Junkies jacking up after the first round may not be for everyone. We are talking street walking here.You must have been through Dante's hell!... Creepy...

[Kama Leão]

The last ten pages give you many ladies to choose from. This lady, Ines, gets nothing but great reviews, and she just got another one on the big American review board. I am not sure she has been mentioned in the last ten pages.Not sure if it was in the last ten pages but I have mentioned Inês before. Very, very good, not to be missed.

[Mike Honcho]

Thanks gentlemen, you've given me something to think over when I plan my next trip. I trust that here, pictures tend to not lie like they do in say the Netherlands or Germany. If that's the case, I could understand why someone wouldn't want to leave Portugal, especially given the extremely affordable rates.

Again, thank you all.

[ExExpatriate]

Yes, you can generally rely on photo-verified sites. Of course, there is some basic photoshopping involved, and the ladies aren't going to choose unflattering photos for their ads.

This is one of those areas where some guys have a crap, unrealistic attitude. If a lady isn't showing her face, she is very likely not going to show you her identifying tattoos either. So of course those are airbrushed out. Duh. Then there are the douches who whine about how the photos were lying abd she was fat, when you could see in the pictures the lady had a waist (not hips, waist) almost as wide as her shoulders or that her legs were thick or some other clear indicator that, while fit, she wasn't a waif.

The point being, true bait and switch incidents are very, very rare with escorts advertising on photo-verified, Portuguese sites.

Apartadox will even tell you if the photos are over one year old. IMO, the biggest problem is with those older photos. I generally take it as a yellow flag that an escort hasn't updated their photos, since many ladies do it regularly. Since only those of us with good memories and who focus on Portugal will recognize an old photo essay, that can be a problem.


Thanks gentlemen, you've given me something to think over when I plan my next trip. I trust that here, pictures tend to not lie like they do in say the Netherlands or Germany. If that's the case, I could understand why someone wouldn't want to leave Portugal, especially given the extremely affordable rates.

Again, thank you all.

[ExExpatriate]

Yes, some corner of some level of the Inferno must look just like it. I guess some people go to Hell and it makes them feel superior?


You must have been through Dante's hell!... Creepy...

[Carlos Primeros]

I am wondering, why other web-sites, which are also reliable, are rarely mentioned here.

GOSTOSAS. Which has around 200 - 300 active advertisement.

PORTUAS is another web-site which is also reliable, which gives also prices for the services.

These two sites are relatively reliable. Simply have a look.

Carlos.

[ExExpatriate]

Because they aren't. Even the local board doesn't count them as verified.


I am wondering, why other web-sites, which are also reliable, are rarely mentioned here.

GOSTOSAS. Which has around 200 - 300 active advertisement.

PORTUAS is another web-site which is also reliable, which gives also prices for the services.

These two sites are relatively reliable. Simply have a look.

Carlos.

[Kama Leão]

I guess some people go to Hell and it makes them feel superior?As far as I'm concerned, I've successfully managed to avoid Hell. It would not make me feel superior at all. Quite the opposite.

[ExExpatriate]

As far as I'm concerned, I've successfully managed to avoid Hell. It would not make me feel superior at all. Quite the opposite.Clearly so, sir, as you were the one who described it as Dante's Inferno in the first place The OP, on the other hand, rather enjoyed his stroll into that cheapskate's perdition.

[Steve 9696]

Thanks gentlemen, you've given me something to think over when I plan my next trip. I trust that here, pictures tend to not lie like they do in say the Netherlands or Germany. If that's the case, I could understand why someone wouldn't want to leave Portugal, especially given the extremely affordable rates.

Again, thank you all.I was also considering Lisbon as a new place to try. But I don't enjoy the escort scene that much. I prefer the "buffet" experience where you socialize with the girls and then pick who you want to fuck. Vive in Madrid is very good for this if you like Latinas. It's a nightclub but really for the sole purpose of fucking in the on-site rooms. I've had a few good experiences there — search for Vive for reports.

Also if you prefer a dinner date and sex kind of format Seeking Arrangement is where it's at www.seeking.com and the Madrid Seeking scene is prob the best worldwide. There is a whole forum for this. It's way at bottom under general / dating agencies.

Best of luck!

[Harry1217]

Yes if you don't enjoy the escort scene much, and have a strong preference for clubs / brothels, you're right not to visit Lisbon as it is short on those type of establishments; comparing to Madrid is like chalk and cheese.

In terms of SA, we've had sporadic reports that Lisbon may also be great for this. I'm keen to try it myself but as I prefer shorter bookings of 1-2 hours, well reviewed escorts serve as good a purpose for me. I'm not sure where the forum you refer to is located?


I was also considering Lisbon as a new place to try. But I don't enjoy the escort scene that much. I prefer the "buffet" experience where you socialize with the girls and then pick who you want to fuck. Vive in Madrid is very good for this if you like Latinas. It's a nightclub but really for the sole purpose of fucking in the on-site rooms. I've had a few good experiences there search for Vive for reports.

Also if you prefer a dinner date and sex kind of format Seeking Arrangement is where it's at www.seeking.com and the Madrid Seeking scene is prob the best worldwide. There is a whole forum for this. It's way at bottom under general / dating agencies.

Best of luck!

[DrDickus]

Colleagues, I'm heading to Lisbon within the next days, first time.

Looking for a slim ebony or dark skinned brazilian escort, doing OWO and CIM. Around 25 would be preferable but not mandatory. I think I would prefer incall, as I have other colleagues in the hotel with me so it would be more discrete.

EP girls as far as I can understand do only outcall, so I browsed a bit on ApartadoX and have a list. Any reviews / recommendations from you would be great.

Fabiana Lopes. Very much what I'm looking for but saw a bad review a few pages back.

Manuela Alves. Another favorite.

Hillary.

Rafaela Ouro.

Nuria Gomes.

Clara Sempaio.

Not so slim as I prefer:

Sophie A.

Debora Dias. A bit too muscular.

Thalia Ferraz.

Joana Montenegro. Higly recommended but only outcall and not so dark skin.

Ines Pires.

Thank you in advance for any tips.

[Mongerer88]

For what you are seeking, I would move this lady to the top of the list, although CIM isn't always indicated in her reviews (just sometimes). But she is definitely BBBJ and gets excellent reviews.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isadora-marques-7677

https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1299

I wasn't blown away by the reviews of the top six you listed.

Joana is always a safe bet. You could get your own hotel room somewhere if outcall is the only option for a lady or two.


Colleagues, I'm heading to Lisbon within the next days, first time.

Looking for a slim ebony or dark skinned brazilian escort, doing OWO and CIM. Around 25 would be preferable but not mandatory. I think I would prefer incall, as I have other colleagues in the hotel with me so it would be more discrete.

EP girls as far as I can understand do only outcall, so I browsed a bit on ApartadoX and have a list. Any reviews / recommendations from you would be great.

Fabiana Lopes. Very much what I'm looking for but saw a bad review a few pages back.

Manuela Alves. Another favorite.

Hillary.

Rafaela Ouro.

Nuria Gomes.

Clara Sempaio.

Not so slim as I prefer:

Sophie A.

Debora Dias. A bit too muscular.

Thalia Ferraz.

Joana Montenegro. Higly recommended but only outcall and not so dark skin.

Ines Pires.

Thank you in advance for any tips.

[DrDickus]

Thanks Mongerer88 for the fast reply. As far as I could get with reading, I understand Joana Montenegro and Flora Neves are safe bets, both doing outcall only.

I was hoping for a more ebony / dark lady, but yes, I also found some not great reviews on the ones in my initial list. Appreciate your proposal but not really up for my taste.

Any info on Debora Dias, maybe? Much appreciated.


For what you are seeking, I would move this lady to the top of the list, although CIM isn't always indicated in her reviews (just sometimes). But she is definitely BBBJ and gets excellent reviews.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isadora-marques-7677

https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1299

I wasn't blown away by the reviews of the top six you listed.

Joana is always a safe bet. You could get your own hotel room somewhere if outcall is the only option for a lady or two.

[Harry1217]

Flora Neves isn't an ebony; she is very much a white skinned (Caucasian) lady.

Debora Dias has good reviews, and she certainly provides CIM. In terms of being too muscular, her reviews have complimented her body and I don't think anybody found her too muscular.


Thanks Mongerer88 for the fast reply. As far as I could get with reading, I understand Joana Montenegro and Flora Neves are safe bets, both doing outcall only.

I was hoping for a more ebony / dark lady, but yes, I also found some not great reviews on the ones in my initial list. Appreciate your proposal but not really up for my taste.

Any info on Debora Dias, maybe? Much appreciated.

[Mongerer88]

Thanks Mongerer88 for the fast reply. As far as I could get with reading, I understand Joana Montenegro and Flora Neves are safe bets, both doing outcall only.

I was hoping for a more ebony / dark lady, but yes, I also found some not great reviews on the ones in my initial list. Appreciate your proposal but not really up for my taste.

Any info on Debora Dias, maybe? Much appreciated.Yes, as Harry points out, Debora Dias is a good choice just like Joana is, but both are EP ladies and I thought you were not as interested in outcall. Here are the EP ladies.

https://escortprivada.com/escorts/lisbon/

[Cheappy]

Colleagues, I'm heading to Lisbon within the next days, first time.

Looking for a slim ebony or dark skinned brazilian escort, doing OWO and CIM. Around 25 would be preferable but not mandatory. I think I would prefer incall, as I have other colleagues in the hotel with me so it would be more discrete.

EP girls as far as I can understand do only outcall, so I browsed a bit on ApartadoX and have a list. Any reviews / recommendations from you would be great.

Fabiana Lopes. Very much what I'm looking for but saw a bad review a few pages back.

Manuela Alves. Another favorite.

Hillary.

Rafaela Ouro.

Nuria Gomes.

Clara Sempaio.

Not so slim as I prefer:

Sophie A.

Debora Dias. A bit too muscular.

Thalia Ferraz.

Joana Montenegro. Higly recommended but only outcall and not so dark skin.

Ines Pires.

Thank you in advance for any tips.If you are looking for dark skin lady, I would recommend Bia Santos. I saw her last February, she is beautiful and gives excellent services including anal. Only one downside, she has no English but We use WhatsApp translate to communicate.

https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-bia-santos-5091

[Indulgent W]

I don't have any advice to offer, as I am planning my first trip to Lisbon myself, but I'd like to compliment you on your taste in women and thank you for doing a part of the homework for me. I could not have asked for a better list of slender, dark skinned girls.

Only difference is thst I'm looking for sensual GFE for one of my sessions and an hour long nuru / body2 body massage that ends in FS for the other, as I only have one day.

Someone a few pages back suggested to approach a FS provider for the massage part. Does anyone have recommendations? I prefer either young or dark skinned, ideally both, but it's not a must.

Thanks in advance.


Colleagues, I'm heading to Lisbon within the next days, first time.

Looking for a slim ebony or dark skinned brazilian escort, doing OWO and CIM. Around 25 would be preferable but not mandatory. I think I would prefer incall, as I have other colleagues in the hotel with me so it would be more discrete.

EP girls as far as I can understand do only outcall, so I browsed a bit on ApartadoX and have a list. Any reviews / recommendations from you would be great.

Fabiana Lopes. Very much what I'm looking for but saw a bad review a few pages back.

Manuela Alves. Another favorite.

Hillary.

Rafaela Ouro.

Nuria Gomes.

Clara Sempaio.

Not so slim as I prefer:

Sophie A.

Debora Dias. A bit too muscular.

Thalia Ferraz.

Joana Montenegro. Higly recommended but only outcall and not so dark skin.

Ines Pires.

Thank you in advance for any tips.

[Mongerer88]

Thanks Mongerer88 for the fast reply. As far as I could get with reading, I understand Joana Montenegro and Flora Neves are safe bets, both doing outcall only.

I was hoping for a more ebony / dark lady, but yes, I also found some not great reviews on the ones in my initial list. Appreciate your proposal but not really up for my taste.

Any info on Debora Dias, maybe? Much appreciated.If you do get a separate hotel room due to privacy concerns and are looking at EP ladies, you should add Aurora Alfaiate to you list of possibilities.

Her reviews are very good and indicate that her skin tone is much darker than her photos.

Keep in mind that many dark skin ladies lighten their skin tone in the photos.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/

[Jkol94]

So here is thing. Sami's reviews indicate she gives full service. But if she is at Authentic Spa, it's possible that place has a house policy. I've never inquired there, but just being aware of who has been on the roster, there have been some massagistas who do full service and some who definitely do not.

So that place is a grey area. I'm not sure what to make of it.

As for trying to make a private arrangement, it's taking your chances. I mean, I'm fully aware of instances of massagistas doing guys at seriously HJ-only spas simply because the lady fancied them. Nothing extra paid. Stuff happens. That has happened to me, twice! The issue is whether you can count on it or want to roll the dice.It seems the link to the website is dead. And if you go on the authentic spa's website there is no one advertised there named Sami.

[DrDickus]

If you do get a separate hotel room due to privacy concerns and are looking at EP ladies, you should add Aurora Alfaiate to you list of possibilities.

Her reviews are very good and indicate that her skin tone is much darker than her photos.

Keep in mind that many dark skin ladies lighten their skin tone in the photos.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/Thank you guys. Apparently EP has the best ones, at least according to my taste. Joana, Deborah and Aurora are clearly on the shortlist.

Reality is I'm not sure how it will go down, I'll be there for a conference and staying a bit more as my flight is next day, so maybe privacy will be ok in the last day once people leave, especially in the night maybe. While this is not my first tango at all I never did outcall, always preferred to go incall and I was now thinking I don't even know how it 'works'.

- do you pay also for taxi?

- do the ladies come also for a one-shot (30-40 minutes) or 1 h is minimum? For me 1 h is either kinda short (can't have fun the second time, I need more time) or too long for just one-shot.

At Indulgent W. Nuru could also sound kinda interesting, drop a line here if you find something special.

[RobotoVoice]

Hey guys, does anyone have any information on Constança Aguilar? Link: https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-constanca-aguilar-5365.

I searched this forum and on the local board, but could not find anything. She has been on my to do list for a while but I was skeptical due to a lack of reviews.

Nonetheless, I struck up a conversation with her through Whatsapp and I may schedule a visit this Saturday.

I just find her photos too enticing and I am willing to take one for the team and report back.

But I thought I'd check here first.

[Jkol94]

Out of interest I'm going to be headed to Lisbon very soon on a backpacking trip and was wondering what the most ideal spa is if you particularly interested in potential full service on the side (besides the obvious NuruSpa that I've seen mentioned a few times.).

[Harry1217]

Actually Aurora's reviews are good without being brilliant. She has been reported as not being keen on OWO and rolling on a condom unless you specify you want OWO. CIM is listed within her provided services, so you'd be really annoyed if she didn't provide it, but there is a chance she may not agree on any given day. She also doesn't allow reverse oral sometimes and only does LFK at best.

She is reported as being very attractive and as Mongerer88 says she has a darker skin tone than the pictures suggest.

Personally, I would opt for another ebony lady over her but if you don't mind lack of reverse oral and DFK, she is an option.


If you do get a separate hotel room due to privacy concerns and are looking at EP ladies, you should add Aurora Alfaiate to you list of possibilities.

Her reviews are very good and indicate that her skin tone is much darker than her photos.

Keep in mind that many dark skin ladies lighten their skin tone in the photos.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/

[Mongerer88]

Hey guys, does anyone have any information on Constana Aguilar? Link: https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-constanca-aguilar-5365.

I searched this forum and on the local board, but could not find anything. She has been on my to do list for a while but I was skeptical due to a lack of reviews.

Nonetheless, I struck up a conversation with her through Whatsapp and I may schedule a visit this Saturday.

I just find her photos too enticing and I am willing to take one for the team and report back.

But I thought I'd check here first.Constanca Aguilar has one review on the local board from a guy with five reviews. He may be a bit of a jerk based on his writings and consistent low scores, but he did give one lady a perfect 10 so he is capable of being pleased and happy.

He gave Canstanca Aguar a 2 out of 10 and said it was a terrible experience. Not much to go by, but I certainly think you can do better than her.

[Mongerer88]

Thank you guys. Apparently EP has the best ones, at least according to my taste. Joana, Deborah and Aurora are clearly on the shortlist.

Reality is I'm not sure how it will go down, I'll be there for a conference and staying a bit more as my flight is next day, so maybe privacy will be ok in the last day once people leave, especially in the night maybe. While this is not my first tango at all I never did outcall, always preferred to go incall and I was now thinking I don't even know how it 'works'.

- do you pay also for taxi?

- do the ladies come also for a one-shot (30-40 minutes) or 1 h is minimum? For me 1 h is either kinda short (can't have fun the second time, I need more time) or too long for just one-shot.

At Indulgent W. Nuru could also sound kinda interesting, drop a line here if you find something special.EP does not do an additional taxi fee for metro Lisbon. You should get an hour and multiple cums, certainly from Joana, who is customer service oriented. We try out best to call out and blast any EP ladies who leave before the hour, but it does happen. Not often for the best rated ones, but too often with the lower rated EP ladies. Harry1217 is correct that Aurora plays favorites. Some posters say she is their absolute favorite EP lady, others have reported a mediocre experience.

[Kama Leão]

If you are looking for dark skin lady, I would recommend Bia Santos. I saw her last February, she is beautiful and gives excellent services including anal.

https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-bia-santos-5091Bia is a very, very good option. She is completely uninhibited in all things concerning sex. Everything you might want is definitely available and she seems to really enjoy it as much as we do. And definitely not a clock watcher.

[Winner888]

Hi,

I am looking to visit Lisbon soon, This is my first post but does anyone have any experience of Ravena at Nuruspa?

[ExExpatriate]

My memory here is pretty dim, but I'm sure Aguilar did a name change before the Pandemic. I can't remember her old name right here and now. I recall her track record declined from great to average/mediocre, so she may be a case of burn out / getting jaded. Also, those pictures are now a few years old.

It's a shame. I'd like to see some recent, definitive feedback on her.


Constanca Aguilar has one review on the local board from a guy with five reviews. He may be a bit of a jerk based on his writings and consistent low scores, but he did give one lady a perfect 10 so he is capable of being pleased and happy.

He gave Canstanca Aguar a 2 out of 10 and said it was a terrible experience. Not much to go by, but I certainly think you can do better than her.

[Mongerer88]

Bump for guy asking about a specific lady at Nuru Spa.

This post is consistent with posts on the United Kingdom Travelling Abroad section, but it should be noted that Millah upcharged one guy 50 euros for covered full service. One of the reasons that the local board doesn't have more reviews of the Nuru Spa is the simple fact that Lisbon's many independents offer incall for 30,45 and 60 minute prices that are much less expensive than Nuru Spa, albeit with less fancy incall furnishings.


My first post here maybe but I've been taking advise from here and been to Nuru Spa Lisbon 4 times already, 2 of them being within the last month.

2 girls I had the service from are no longer there (it was beginnings of last year) so there is no point in taking about them. But the more recent ones:

Millah: had a "relaxing" massage with her and she literally came in the room to give all she can and enjoy herself too. That was one of the best experiences for me. Only time for condom use was during the intercourses. She even allowed oral on her (not everyone may be interested in here for safety).

Shr offered an absolute GF experience.

For anyone interested: boobs aren't natural.

Kyara: also very good service as millah, this one started with a very good massage first then let me take control. Did not give a BJ like millah (millah was amazing on that) but I did not ask for it either, maybe she would do it if we both felt like. She was still very much into it and enjoyed it herself too. Still a very good GF experience.

There is also Ravena, but I was told she does not do relaxing session.

[ExExpatriate]

I was looking at one of the more unreliable sites, and can now confirm that Solange Abreu (EP) is Mafalda Melo / Nicole Forte. That has previously been denied here, but a new fake review for Melo's old profile says she is now Soraia, and Abreu / Melo / Forte even responded to her own fake review!

She is awful. Bad teeth, bad skin, reeks of smoke and is probably on something.

My memory cleared: Aguilar used to be Ana Mar. When she went by that name, she had quite a good reputation, and she traveled around quite a bit. She definitely got jaded sometime before even the Pandemic. Of course, the ladies can go through their bad spells and get a second wind, but there are two objective red flags for me on her: that photoshoot, delectable as it is, is now three years old; and no recent review I've seen.

[RobotoVoice]

So after delving deep into the archives of the local board, I was lucky to locate a post regarding Constança Aguilar, which was filled with mostly negative reviews and comments. One guy even went as far as accusing her of stealing money from his wallet when he was not looking.

Needless to say, this put me off completely and I cancelled my arrangement with Constança.

As a backup, I had Bia Santos in mind. Initially, I was a little bit worried when exchanging messages with her since she seemed distant and cold. But having read the positive reviews about her on this forum, I decided to push forward. And man, was it worth it!

I arranged a meeting for 30 minutes, for which Bia charges 60 Euros. For a 1 hour booking, she charges 120 and includes Anal in the price.

Bia is not going to win any physical fitness awards but she more than makes up for it with a very welcoming and friendly attitude! I got a good grasp on Portuguese, so we understood each other just fine. During the encounter, she was enthusiastically proactive and open to any position. She still lives up to the reviews and I will definitely repeat in the future!

[XXL]

I wonder how hassle free is the purchase of a prepaid SIM card in Portugal. From a visit some years ago I remember the AirBnB to be without WiFi and the hotel having a lousy WiFi.

[Landfill2]

I wonder how hassle free is the purchase of a prepaid SIM card in Portugal. From a visit some years ago I remember the AirBnB to be without WiFi and the hotel having a lousy WiFi.It's very easy, ask your hotel or Airbnb where to buy one close by, swing by and pick one up for 10-20 euro. Its very helpful for getting around.

[Jkol94]

Generally speaking, the formal spas won't give you a straight answer to those questions. That is because they either don't do FS as a matter of house policy or whether that is available is up to the individual massagista.

Also, spas need to operate in a grey area. If they were openly operating as a brothel, then they might run afoul of the law, which outlaws profiting from someone else's sex work.

Your best bet for determining whether a massagista offers the services you want is to inquire with the independents. Look at somassagens and docemassagem and start WhatsApp'ing the ladies who aren't with a spa.

Also, look up the Massage forum on the local board. Some places, like Klass, Buda and Erotic Spa, are well known for having all their ladies offering FS. You can look up individuals in this way.I'm assuming Erotic Spa is this one?:

https://eroticmassagelisboa.com/massagem-sensual/

I ask because I'm having a nightmare trying to find a full service massage parlour that's available on a Sunday. Vast majority of them seem to be closed on a Sunday. Which is a problem for me as I'm only in Lisbon for a day.

[Mandibles]

I wonder how hassle free is the purchase of a prepaid SIM card in Portugal. From a visit some years ago I remember the AirBnB to be without WiFi and the hotel having a lousy WiFi.Really easy, even though I got mine two years ago during the pandemic. I just came into the first mobile provider store I saw (it was MEO), and bought a card for something like 10 euro. I think they have changed it since then though, so it can be more expensive.

[Kama Leão]

Bia is not going to win any physical fitness awards but she more than makes up for it with a very welcoming and friendly attitude! I got a good grasp on Portuguese, so we understood each other just fine. During the encounter, she was enthusiastically proactive and open to any position. She still lives up to the reviews and I will definitely repeat in the future!One of the very best right now in Lisbon. And there are not that many as good as her.

[James 006]

Does anyone happen to remember Ravena in Nuru Spa Cascais?

She was there one year ago.

Slim and super hot.

She was from Venezuela I think.

Does anyone know if she is active elsewhere? Or does anyone know how to get in touch with her? Feel free to send me a PM.

I cross my fingers to see her again!

[RobotoVoice]

One of the very best right now in Lisbon. And there are not that many as good as her.The only other girl who comes to mind is Patricia Navarro, who is in currently in Porto, according to her profile on ApartadoX.

I have been with her 3 times and she is excellent!

[Kama Leão]

The only other girl who comes to mind is Patricia Navarro, who is in currently in Porto, according to her profile on ApartadoX.

I have been with her 3 times and she is excellent!Patricia is also good but she lacks the fire and enthusiasm of Bia.

[DrDickus]

Hey everyone.

All your feedback is appreciated. Wrote to Debora and Bia last night (relatively late) to schedule some meetings next days but no replies. It's still early but just curious. How is the custom in Portugal, should I send another message today or wait for their answer?

I'll come back here with hopefully reviews.

[Brown Eyes]

Hullo,

Is Mulheres https://mulheresvip.net/en/escorts/lisbon# a reliable site?

Any particular recommendations would be appreciated.

[ExExpatriate]

No. Although there are some photo-verified profiles, and some of the unverified profiles are genuine, as many are fake.

All ads appearing on Apartadox, Portalprivado, Docemassagem and Somassagens are photo-verified. Some of the photos are old, but Apartadox even tells you that. Knowing that everything you are seeing was at least accurate once upon a time takes a lot of the guessing game out of it. And frankly, given that these are known facts amongst escorts in Lisbon, I always found it suspicious that a lady would advertise elsewhere, but not on one of those four.


Hullo,

Is Mulheres https://mulheresvip.net/en/escorts/lisbon# a reliable site?

Any particular recommendations would be appreciated.

[Brown Eyes]

No. Although there are some photo-verified profiles, and some of the unverified profiles are genuine, as many are fake.

All ads appearing on Apartadox, Portalprivado, Docemassagem and Somassagens are photo-verified. Some of the photos are old, but Apartadox even tells you that. Knowing that everything you are seeing was at least accurate once upon a time takes a lot of the guessing game out of it. And frankly, given that these are known facts amongst escorts in Lisbon, I always found it suspicious that a lady would advertise elsewhere, but not on one of those four.Many thanks ExP. I note you did not include Escort Privada in your list.

It would be great if all of the escort's info was accurate, so one could relax about all of that aspect and just look forward to enjoying a meeting. All of the uncertainty and potential let downs takes a lot of the fun out of this. I will stick with your recommended sites so.

[ExExpatriate]

Ah, sorry. Escort Privada is an agency rather than an ad site, and the entire EP roster advertises on Apartadox by default.


Many thanks ExP. I note you did not include Escort Privada in your list.

It would be great if all of the escort's info was accurate, so one could relax about all of that aspect and just look forward to enjoying a meeting. All of the uncertainty and potential let downs takes a lot of the fun out of this. I will stick with your recommended sites so.

[Jkol94]

Has anyone from this forum ever tried https://www.permitase.pt/.

Apparently they offer FS same as the nuru spa that seems to be very popular here but I've not really seen it discussed much. I wondered if there was a particular reason for that. ??

[Mongerer88]

Has anyone from this forum ever tried https://www.permitase.pt/.

Apparently they offer FS same as the nuru spa that seems to be very popular here but I've not really seen it discussed much. I wondered if there was a particular reason for that??When I looked through the reviews of Permitase on the local board, all but one mention of oral sex was covered instead of BBBJ, which is a deal killer for most of us.

Some reviews said no sexual activity occurred at all, and the one promising BBBJ / CFS review indicated tge guy heard too much loud talking from the next room to enjoy himself.

[Harry1217]

Those two would certainly normally reply quickly and I can see they are both currently active and working.

I suspect it was the lateness of your message. Just send another message.

Sometimes ladies are reported as taking more than a day to respond, but most do respond fairly quickly.


Hey everyone.

All your feedback is appreciated. Wrote to Debora and Bia last night (relatively late) to schedule some meetings next days but no replies. It's still early but just curious. How is the custom in Portugal, should I send another message today or wait for their answer?

I'll come back here with hopefully reviews.

[Harry1217]

Yes that place does appear to be very similar to Nuru Spa. There are a few reports over the last couple of years, and FS has always been reported as far as I can remember. Some of the ladies have also had profiles on sites likes Apartadox.

The reason why it's not discussed more is simply due to a large number of alternative independent ladies available for incall. If you go to these massage places, you're restricted to choosing amongst a handful of ladies (sometimes only 2 or 3), most with no reviews to go on. Even Nuru spa isn't discussed that much, although it has been mentioned a bit more. The ratings on the reviews for Permitase have been fine, but you may find some restrictions such as oral being with a condom.

I actually like the idea of combining a sensual massage with FS. However, the problem with these massage places is that very few ladies can actually deliver a good sensual massage. I wouldn't just go for FS, I'd much rather see the well reviewed independents and it's highly likely that I find a lot of them more attractive simply due to the extra choice!


Has anyone from this forum ever tried https://www.permitase.pt/.

Apparently they offer FS same as the nuru spa that seems to be very popular here but I've not really seen it discussed much. I wondered if there was a particular reason for that. ??

[Jkol94]

Yes that place does appear to be very similar to Nuru Spa. There are a few reports over the last couple of years, and FS has always been reported as far as I can remember. Some of the ladies have also had profiles on sites likes Apartadox.

The reason why it's not discussed more is simply due to a large number of alternative independent ladies available for incall. If you go to these massage places, you're restricted to choosing amongst a handful of ladies (sometimes only 2 or 3), most with no reviews to go on. Even Nuru spa isn't discussed that much, although it has been mentioned a bit more. The ratings on the reviews for Permitase have been fine, but you may find some restrictions such as oral being with a condom.

I actually like the idea of combining a sensual massage with FS. However, the problem with these massage places is that very few ladies can actually deliver a good sensual massage. I wouldn't just go for FS, I'd much rather see the well reviewed independents and it's highly likely that I find a lot of them more attractive simply due to the extra choice!Very interesting. The thing that put me off the independents is I like the simplicity and security of just booking through a spa. Plus, it feels like more of an authentic tourist experience, I'll leave the independents to the pros. Having said that though. I am now thinking I'd much rather have an amazing sensual massage with HR than a terrible massage with just okay FS. I'd imagine some would disagree but to me if I'm abroad somewhere new, for only a short while I want the experience to be memorable.

I know places like Paradise Spa and Wayang centre can be quite expensive and no FS, but if the massage only experience is better than FS I think I'd much prefer that even if it's even more expensive. I also think just attitude from the therapist and the environment of the studio can make a massive difference to the experience.

[ExExpatriate]

If your priority is eroticism and you are happy with a happy ending that doesn't include BJ / FS, your list should include Isis:

https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa

The ending is HJ or TF. But she is gorgeous and her work is hands down the best of its kind in Lisbon.


Very interesting. The thing that put me off the independents is I like the simplicity and security of just booking through a spa. Plus, it feels like more of an authentic tourist experience, I'll leave the independents to the pros. Having said that though. I am now thinking I'd much rather have an amazing sensual massage with HR than a terrible massage with just okay FS. I'd imagine some would disagree but to me if I'm abroad somewhere new, for only a short while I want the experience to be memorable.

I know places like Paradise Spa and Wayang centre can be quite expensive and no FS, but if the massage only experience is better than FS I think I'd much prefer that even if it's even more expensive. I also think just attitude from the therapist and the environment of the studio can make a massive difference to the experience.

[Mongerer88]

Very interesting. The thing that put me off the independents is I like the simplicity and security of just booking through a spa. Plus, it feels like more of an authentic tourist experience, I'll leave the independents to the pros. Having said that though. I am now thinking I'd much rather have an amazing sensual massage with HR than a terrible massage with just okay FS. I'd imagine some would disagree but to me if I'm abroad somewhere new, for only a short while I want the experience to be memorable.

I know places like Paradise Spa and Wayang centre can be quite expensive and no FS, but if the massage only experience is better than FS I think I'd much prefer that even if it's even more expensive. I also think just attitude from the therapist and the environment of the studio can make a massive difference to the experience.You comments confuse me.

Here is Ines, one of the most highly regarded independent escorts in Lisbon. You know what you are going to get with her (great sex) and as good of a massage as you want, or no massage at all if you don't want it. Escorts offer a large menu. Massage parlors don't.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/

Here is her most recent review from an American on a review board. How is not going to see her as touristy as a massage parlor?

"Ines's incall is in an apartment building. She was quick to respond and give me details to get up to her room. The space is clearly a studio hosting multiple providers, but the room she guided me too was clean and neat. She greeted me with a kiss and asked me to shower. While I was showering, she laid out a massage sheet on the mattress for hygiene purposes. When I finished she invited me to lay down. Then the fireworks began.

She started with a full massage of my legs and back, sliding her gorgeous little body over me as I moaned in appreciation. After a few minutes of this, she began nibbling on my ears, and, when I turned my head, she went in for a kiss. She invited me to turn over and started kissing me passionately. Then, she continued rubbing my body with hers.

After a few moments she started a wet and wild BBBJ, pressing down as deep as she could. She continued and I had to stop her before losing my load. On went the cover and we went at it in cowgirl, mish, and I finally lost it in the bag in doggy. She is a submissive girl and put my hands on her throat for light choking and moaned loudly when I smacked her ass.

I would see Ines again in a heartbeat. If you are visiting Lisbon she is a must-see."

[Kama Leão]

Here is Ines, one of the most highly regarded independent escorts in Lisbon. You know what you are going to get with her (great sex) and as good of a massage as you want, or no massage at all if you don't want it.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/

After Bia, another one that I've written about a while ago. Now, what about trying Monica (already reviewd too) https://docemassagem.com/massagista/monica-portuguesa/ ?

[Brown Eyes]

After Bia, another one that I've written about a while ago. Now, what about trying Monica (already reviewd too) https://docemassagem.com/massagista/monica-portuguesa/ ?There is very little info on this site. Do these ladies do outcalls?

[Brown Eyes]

Apartadox have the worst videos of the girls, far too close up.

If anyone has had any good but recent experiences with ladies currently on that site, if you could post the links to say just 2-3 ladies that would be great. It really would be useful to have a bank of say 10 ladies that can be relied upon. Thanks.

[Mongerer88]

Apartadox have the worst videos of the girls, far too close up.

If anyone has had any good but recent experiences with ladies currently on that site, if you could post the links to say just 2-3 ladies that would be great. It really would be useful to have a bank of say 10 ladies that can be relied upon. Thanks.It helps us if you tell us what you are looking for in terms of a lady and a session. I assume you want BBBJ in the session instead of CBJ. Of the current Apartadox ads, you should focus on these based on reviews here on ISG, and the American, Canadian, United Kingdom and Portuguese review boards.

My friend Smuler says that Kelly Morais was one of the best escorts he has ever seen. He has made tremendous recommendations to me in Montreal and Barcelona and his opinion should be held in the highest regard. He likes busty escorts. Perhaps you do too?

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-kelly-morais-3310

Carolina Belmont has a Sterling reputation if you like conversation and perhaps longer sessions that include dinner. The criticism of her is that she is more relationship oriented and less action oriented. In other words, you might only get one cum with her. Carolina is said to be something of a Playboy Bunny type.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-carolina-belmont-6095

Eller shows her face in ads, which is rare. Her reviews on the local board are usually 8's and 9's out of 10.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428

An excellent Canadian reviewer say a lot of EP ladies and rated these four the highest. His views are supported by similar reviews by Americans and Brits on their review boards, especially regarding Joana and Lara. Joana is one of the few EP ladies who is kink-friendly and is fluent in English (all four speak English, though). All four of these EP ladies have excellent reviews on multiple boards.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-joana-montenegro-4360

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-cortez-7973

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-flora-neves-6810

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eva-branco-7346

Sara is a favorite of mine and I have seen her four times. She is a bit older now than the four listed above. Her BBBJ is simply outstanding, she loves sex and speaks fluent English.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sara-valente-2534

Debora has been mentioned favorably recently and has an excellent review on the local Portuguese board. She is the rare athletic black lady. Once again, your posts don't reveal much about what you are looking for.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-debora-dias-7343

Patricia Navarro is one of the highest rated escorts in Portugal. I am not sure if she is currently working in Lisbon or Porto. She basically gets page after page of favorable reviews.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827

It has been a while, but a guy who used to post frequently on this board and the Montreal board raved about Valentina Sartori. I certainly trust his opinion. In the recent past, Valentina was mostly working in Cascais. I don't know if that has changed or not.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-valentina-sartori-4294

[Mongerer88]

For the last couple of posters asking about massage and some of Lisbon's best escorts, Patricia Navarro just received an excellent review on the International section of the Toronto escort review board. The Canadian who saw her in Lisbon recently said this about her:

"Patricia Navarro. What can I even say about her. She is one of the most amazing women I've ever been with, body, service, attitude, sensuality all 20/10. I thought she was beautiful as well, but that's subjective, kind of reminds me of drakes baby mama. Body is absolutely out of this world. BBBJ, BLS, rim, DFK you name it she is just so good at what she does. Reminds me of Angelina from SFT but more passionately sensual than passionately hardcore, but I think she probably has that in her bag as well. A very strong woman as well she gave me an amazing massage. Honestly one of my favorite experiences with an sp. She is extremely fun to hang out with, and is very sweet. Were still texting about how fun the session was, but unfortunately I don't have time to meet again. She has enough English to communicate a little, but also translate would be needed if you need to have a full conversation. "

[MojoinDallas]

Thank you at Mongerer88. This is excellent information. I will be in Lisbon in October and you just saved me hours of research.


It helps us if you tell us what you are looking for in terms of a lady and a session. I assume you want BBBJ in the session instead of CBJ. Of the current Apartadox ads, you should focus on these based on reviews here on ISG, and the American, Canadian, United Kingdom and Portuguese review boards.

My friend Smuler says that Kelly Morais was one of the best escorts he has ever seen. He has made tremendous recommendations to me in Montreal and Barcelona and his opinion should be held in the highest regard. He likes busty escorts. Perhaps you do too?

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-kelly-morais-3310

Carolina Belmont has a Sterling reputation if you like conversation and perhaps longer sessions that include dinner. The criticism of her is that she is more relationship oriented and less action oriented. In other words, you might only get one cum with her. Carolina is said to be something of a Playboy Bunny type..

[Kama Leão]

Another one I've already raved about: the beautiful and great Bangla Deshi, Lia Aida; https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-lia-aida-5098.

[Brown Eyes]

It helps us if you tell us what you are looking for in terms of a lady and a session. I assume you want BBBJ in the session instead of CBJ. Of the current Apartadox ads, you should focus on these based on reviews here on ISG, and the American, Canadian, United Kingdom and Portuguese review boards.

My friend Smuler says that Kelly Morais was one of the best escorts he has ever seen. He has made tremendous recommendations to me in Montreal and Barcelona and his opinion should be held in the highest regard. He likes busty escorts. Perhaps you do too?

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-kelly-morais-3310

Carolina Belmont has a Sterling reputation if you like conversation and perhaps longer sessions that include dinner. The criticism of her is that she is more relationship oriented and less action oriented. In other words, you might only get one cum with her. Carolina is said to be something of a Playboy Bunny type.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-carolina-belmont-6095

Eller shows her face in ads, which is rare. Her reviews on the local board are usually 8's and 9's out of 10.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428

An excellent Canadian reviewer say a lot of EP ladies and rated these four the highest. His views are supported by similar reviews by Americans and Brits on their review boards, especially regarding Joana and Lara. Joana is one of the few EP ladies who is kink-friendly and is fluent in English (all four speak English, though). All four of these EP ladies have excellent reviews on multiple boards.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-joana-montenegro-4360

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-cortez-7973

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-flora-neves-6810

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eva-branco-7346

Sara is a favorite of mine and I have seen her four times. She is a bit older now than the four listed above. Her BBBJ is simply outstanding, she loves sex and speaks fluent English.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sara-valente-2534

Debora has been mentioned favorably recently and has an excellent review on the local Portuguese board. She is the rare athletic black lady. Once again, your posts don't reveal much about what you are looking for.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-debora-dias-7343

Patricia Navarro is one of the highest rated escorts in Portugal. I am not sure if she is currently working in Lisbon or Porto. She basically gets page after page of favorable reviews.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827

It has been a while, but a guy who used to post frequently on this board and the Montreal board raved about Valentina Sartori. I certainly trust his opinion. In the recent past, Valentina was mostly working in Cascais. I don't know if that has changed or not.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-valentina-sartori-4294Thank you Mongerer88.

I am risk averse to the possibility of picking up any STIs. Therefore, having covered everything is good for me.

I like killer legs and bum and a lady with reasonably easy communication in english and with a great relaxed and positive attitude. A teaser would be a bonus. Outcall only.

[ExExpatriate]

Julieta Gomes / Vera Guerra has a new photo essay. She has spent every day of the summer at the beach from the looks of it: she could pass for mulatto now LOL It's an interesting choice of timing, given that doing a new Photoshop is always about drumming up more business for these girls.

A reminder that her record as Vera is terrible. She is pretty and has a hot (if plastic) body, but she has a terrible attitude and uses every time wasting tactic there is. I can't call her EP's worst performer, but she is absolutely on the list you don't want to call.

[A Wild Potato]

Back from my week in Lisbon, had a great time there, the city was nice too.

Jude: 7/10.

It was possible to schedule way in advance and she was approximately on time.

She has an advanced level of English and conversation was both easy and interesting.

Looked pretty much like her pictures, Iberian white, just much more tired, likely recently partied hard.

I didn't like the African style braid she had on top at the time.

She did even send more pictures before our meet and promoted her "pocketstar" account.

Her raw BJ skill was ordinary, she goes for a little DT but without much success.

She loved getting eaten out and 69 was thrilling for both of us.

I would have appreciated a closer shave but it looked like either a 6 mm trim or lack of care.

I believe she did enjoy herself a lot and sounded genuine to me, mind you very loud.

Sex was good and she took initiative, seemed to enjoy herself too.

Apparently it's common in Portugal to offer CIM, she didn't list it specifically but happily obliged upon request.

Generally a good sweet vibe, I would call her again but not frequently due to her price.

Good on timing.

Flora Neves: 8/10.

Scheduled 48 h ahead, she came in a good 40 minutes late.

Spot on my type of women, she has that adorable / cute type of prettiness, I think Portuguese with some Arabic.

She does look like her pictures and she is gorgeous overall. Her womanhood is on the meatier side and a slight turn off for me.

Her level of English is lacking and it gripped our meeting a few times. I Had to rephrase "lay on your back".

As mentioned by other reviewers, she has an intense eye contact, you can tell she isn't faint-hearted at all.

Raw BJ was enjoyable and made with care. Agreed to be eaten out but wasn't much into it as for 69, yet both worth the view.

Sex was alright, nothing fancy here taking it chill. She mostly looked bored and not much into our encounter, I guess she enjoys it harder.

CIM was totally worth our encounter.

Didn't quite click with her, she had a hard-ass walled off vibe, seemed to get angry as I rephrased my requests.

I would call her again as I find her so pretty and would love getting under her skin and to fuck that attitude off her.

Found her vibe difficult to read, mostly got cold and hard.

Good on timing.

Bela Soares: ?10.

Had some blonde switcheroo, sorry I caved in and took her in, this is unacceptable practice and should be killed in the egg.

Worst experience, a girl sorry to be there, still had a decent BJ with CIM but she absolutely nuked my vibe.

I would love to see Bela but I don't think I'd call that number again, although this seems to be more specific to Privada (EP) and not this lady.

What would you do?

Juice: 6/10.

Scheduled way in advance, lovely tone, incall perfectly on time.

Not much of a talker, possibly shy as some mentioned but I doubt so.

She looks pretty like in her add.

Bit thrown off by her small body with all that silicone and laser removed tattoos.

Excellent raw BJ with lots of attention, executing requests with care, her tongue somehow felt like velvet.

Good DT she could bottom average with ease and really goes for it.

Takes initiative with sex and has stamina squatting over.

A bit too much fake moaning for me in a typical Chinese cute horny wife porn style.

Really smooth encounter but too professional for me.

If you don't care about the price tag I'd recommend her CIM which I missed on.

Throws a good working girl vibe.

Precise timing.

She easily could be more than a 6 to you if you like silicone pros with her looks.

Soraia: 9/10.

Scheduled just before, 20 min late.

I understand why some find her ugly, I was prepared for a disaster, and her face is indeed way out of standards with the tiniest chin I've seen in a while.

Like, off-slider videogame character creation's chin small.

Her facial traits are otherwise a good average and I honestly think she is cute in her own way.

With little English and an exquisite body it was mostly down to business.

Nice raw BJ. Agreed to get downed on but said she is a bit too sensitive there and stopped me after a bit.

Lovely 69, again a bit too sensitive for my apparently caveman style, but offered no directions either.

Entertaining sex then agreed to anal and took with much ease and rather little lube.

She didn't list CIM, didn't think to ask as I was glad she agreed to anal which she warned was not guaranteed.

I think she liked me going chilled and easy on her and had some fun.

I loved her sweetheart vibe and would call her again for buttfuck and cuddles in a blink.

Notes:

Catia Bom:

Requested Bolt (uber) money first, felt dodgy, skipped her.

Filipa Marques:

Answered once then ghosted me.

Isabela Zaz:

Answered once then ghosted me.

Ana Carol Leite:

Somehow I read she had some English, she has none.

[PER23]

Julieta Gomes / Vera Guerra has a new photo essay. She has spent every day of the summer at the beach from the looks of it: she could pass for mulatto now LOL It's an interesting choice of timing, given that doing a new Photoshop is always about drumming up more business for these girls.

A reminder that her record as Vera is terrible. She is pretty and has a hot (if plastic) body, but she has a terrible attitude and uses every time wasting tactic there is. I can't call her EP's worst performer, but she is absolutely on the list you don't want to call.So much so, other escorts from EP tell horror stories from their customers who have seen her. She's also way less attractive than the photos suggest. Saw her in 2021 and she was late, poorly dressed, dishevelled and miserable, so I sent her away. The personality is indeed one of the worst I've encountered. Samanta Lima is the absolute worst at EP with Vera a very close second.

[Mongerer88]

Thanks for those great reviews.

Here is the link for Jude.

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/jude/320571/#.

https://pocketstars.com/girlnextdoor

If a person reads the thread for the last 10 pages or so, there are at least twenty "to see" ladies, particularly those that speak English.

This is a great addition for everyone. Especially since she was previously unreviewed.


Back from my week in Lisbon, had a great time there, the city was nice too.

Jude: 7/10.

It was possible to schedule way in advance and she was approximately on time.

She has an advanced level of english and conversation was both easy and interesting.

Looked pretty much like her pictures, iberian white, just much more tired, likely recently partied hard.

I didn't like the african style braid she had on top at the time.

She did even send more pictures before our meet and promoted her "pocketstar" account.

Her raw BJ skill was ordinary, she goes for a little DT but without much success....

[ExExpatriate]

She has slid quite a bit then. I met her in her first few weeks. Her attitude was terrible and performance mediocre, but she was turned out pretty well.


So much so, other escorts from EP tell horror stories from their customers who have seen her. She's also way less attractive than the photos suggest. Saw her in 2021 and she was late, poorly dressed, dishevelled and miserable, so I sent her away. The personality is indeed one of the worst I've encountered. Samanta Lima is the absolute worst at EP with Vera a very close second.

[ExExpatriate]

Jude advertises for 260/ h for outcall, which is outrageously expensive. Even the best incall ladies who don't really want to do outcalls don't ask for such a mark-up. Is that what she actually insists on?


Back from my week in Lisbon, had a great time there, the city was nice too.

Jude: 7/10..

[Brown Eyes]

Back from my week in Lisbon, had a great time there, the city was nice too.

Jude: 7/10.

It was possible to schedule way in advance and she was approximately on time.

She has an advanced level of english and conversation was both easy and interesting.

Looked pretty much like her pictures, iberian white, just much more tired, likely recently partied hard.

I didn't like the african style braid she had on top at the time.

She did even send more pictures before our meet and promoted her "pocketstar" account.

Her raw BJ skill was ordinary, she goes for a little DT but without much success.

She loved getting eaten out and 69 was thrilling for both of us.

I would have appreciated a closer shave but it looked like either a 6 mm trim or lack of care.

I believe she did enjoy herself a lot and sounded genuine to me, mind you very loud.

Sex was good and she took initiative, seemed to enjoy herself too.Thank you for your work here. Jude still advertises that she is 20 , although she has been advertising as that age for years and for someone who says that she is a simple college girl and not a pro, she is on multiple websites.

Flora Neves. Would really be interested in her but her coldness woull stop me straight away.

Overall, pretty depressing stories.

[Indulgent W]

I've always wanted a GFE experience with a dark skinned spinner and Lisbon seemed the right city for that.

I had limited time, two or maybe three 2 h timeslots over 3 days, to meet someone and have never felt more spoiled for choice.

Made a shortlist of girls and made 2 outcall appointments in my hotel on successive nights. Telma Vaz and Debora Diaz.

Telma came back first, quoting 200, but walked it back by removing an anal surcharge I hadn't asked for. Left me worried a bit, but not too much. A long story short, I should have seen that for the red flag it was. It was a subpar experience with an uninterested girl and she managed to get the hotel security suspicious enough to stop her on the way up and call me for verification that I was expecting her. That was a first for me.

After that encounter with security, I didn't want to have outcall issues and had to cancel Debora.

I went to Permitase instead and received a subpar massage that ended in a nice enough FS, but my mood was soured by then.

On my last day I saw Lia Aida. It was a great experience despite ending in just a CBJ.

I'll go back, but will try to be smarter next time.

[ExExpatriate]

Yeah, I would say the "anal surcharge" (I. E. Gouging you) foreshadowed her triggering hotel security. That has NEVER happened to me. Nor have I heard about it in Portugal before. So she was being quite shady.

I'm glad you at least managed to find Lia.


I've always wanted a GFE experience with a dark skinned spinner and Lisbon seemed the right city for that.

I had limited time, two or maybe three 2 h timeslots over 3 days, to meet someone and have never felt more spoiled for choice.

Made a shortlist of girls and made 2 outcall appointments in my hotel on successive nights. Telma Vaz and Debora Diaz.

Telma came back first, quoting 200, but walked it back by removing an anal surcharge I hadn't asked for. Left me worried a bit, but not too much. A long story short, I should have seen that for the red flag it was. It was a subpar experience with an uninterested girl and she managed to get the hotel security suspicious enough to stop her on the way up and call me for verification that I was expecting her. That was a first for me.

After that encounter with security, I didn't want to have outcall issues and had to cancel Debora.

I went to Permitase instead and received a subpar massage that ended in a nice enough FS, but my mood was soured by then.

On my last day I saw Lia Aida. It was a great experience despite ending in just a CBJ.

I'll go back, but will try to be smarter next time.

[Kama Leão]

On my last day I saw Lia Aida. It was a great experience despite ending in just a CBJ.CBJ?... She used to do it BB...

[FutureLegend]

Been trying to report my feedback for months now, but haven't been able to post. Admins seem to have fixed it now, so thanks for that!!

Thank you to all of you that continue to contribute to this community and post so much helpful info! Especially at exexpatriate and at monger88!!

Was in Lisbon for a couple of days earlier this year and had the opportunity to see some of these ladies. Definitely do some research before you go.

Here are my very high-level experiences, starting with who I found to be the best for my taste to the least inspiring. My criteria for this trip were young (just started college look), usually like more well-endowed ladies, true GFE types, well-reviewed as being professional / friendly. I am also fluent in Portuguese, so communication was easy, but being that this is an English speaking board, I'll include who can and can't confidently speak English.

Flora Neves.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/flora-neves/

She is the youngest and best looking of all the girls I was able to spend time with. I believe that she is actually 19/20 and has an incredible body. Some of the reviews list her cons as too talkative and some slight smell of sweat on her. The talking thing is real, but I don't think it's too much at all. If you just want a fuck doll to lay there and say nothing, she not that. However, if you're looking for someone who is genuine, friendly, and engaged, she is definitely that. Her personality is exactly that of what a typical Portuguese young woman is; confident and charismatic. As for service, good BBBJ with attempts at DT, excellent rhythm and energy. Takes direction / your lead very well. Was an absolute pleasure to watch in cowgirl and although I wanted to test her offer to COF, couldn't make it through the way she rode. She's the real deal. Speaks good enough English and understands it perfectly well. Pictures of her are 100% accurate.

Soraia Albuquerque.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/

I was a little concerned booking with Soraia going into it because, despite her incredibly hot pics, she has such mixed reviews. I ended up seeing her twice. One as a duo with Joana (more on that after), then wanted to see her again on her own. She is such a sweet girl, that you're 100% getting that feeling of having picked up a cute local. People have made comments about her teeth or her seeming "slow" on the local boards, but I've come to learn that the locals that review girls are often idiots (probably some of those everywhere in the world). She's quiet. In fact, she's the polar opposite of Flora mentioned above, but she has lots to say and can easily carry a conversation about meaningful things. She does have a bit of an overbite, but I actually found her incredibly cute and then she has one of, if not the best, natural body I have ever seen on a woman. The pictures are 100% accurate again here and overall looks-wise definitely passes for 19-20 and I think she's right around that age. A little more limited with her services with no CIM / COF, but offered a decent BBBJ with attempts at DT. She seemed really into it and was naturally wet during DATY with digits and into multiple positions during FS. Again, the view in both cowgirl and doggy was absolutely unreal! Would recommend, although be aware that her English is limited. I believe she understands reasonably well, but didn't really seem willing to speak a lot, but again. Didn't need to with me.

Lara Cortez (saw her when she was still Camila Pereira).

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-cortez-7973

Lara has a super hot energy that I can see would border on PSE, mixed with the right partner. That's not my style, but I can see the potential there. I was pleasantly surprised when she walked in with how attractive she is. Not much was said on reviews about her facial beauty, but she is the girl that most people would hit on if they saw her irl. She's confident and has a sexy af swagger to her. Started with a very enthusiastic and wet BBBJ with intense eye contact. Equally enthusiastic in FS and follows lead very well! She looks smaller (thinner) than in her old pics (current ones are accurate), so I feel like she's lost weight recently, leading to the only knock on her which is that her chest sags a bit for someone her age. No stretch marks or anything, just not as perky as they probably could / should be. Spinner type and I have continued flashbacks to her, so the session was definitely hot enough to stick in my mind. She's 23, but passes for 19-20 as well. I don't think she'll be around long because we talked about her plan and she will probably only be around for a short while and then take her cash and execute on that plan. Smart girl. Speaks English well and communication with her was excellent.

Joana Montenegro.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/

Saw Joana as part of a duo with Soraia. She has a beautiful face and a fantastic body (pics represent it well), but it's her energy and service that make her stand out. She's a true pro and knows how to make you feel like she's into it and is there for your pleasure. Her personality completely dominated Soraia even being in the room, which is what led to me booking the 1:1 with Soraia because she ended up a bit lost in the whole experience. Excellent BBBJ with DT and attention to the entire area, which was fun. As soon as she jumped on for FS, she started riding so aggressively that I had to get her to stop or would have blasted right there, but good lord!! She's actually close to 30, but looks like she's maybe 20-22, but also offers service levels of a woman who is comfortable and confident with herself and her body, like you get from someone 30+. 100% recommend and will repeat when I'm back, as long as she's still in the game. Excellent English as well and prefers tourists over locals. Only thing to note is that she wears braces right now, but that didn't affect the experience and is obviously temporary.

Eva Branco.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-branco/

Up and cummer in the local scene as already called out here. Pretty average looks and I wouldn't give her a second look if passing on the streets, other than her terrific chest. She has a curvy, but not heavy or chubby at all, body and a great firm chest. Jumped right to BBBJ and took enthusiastic attention to that service and was willing to DT the best she could. Took CIM with a bit of choking on the load (oops. Sorry), but was great about it and just went off to the washroom to clean herself up. Came back and make excellent efforts for FS and to prep me for round two, but I failed here. Saw her only a few hours after landing and was exhausted from the trip, so didn't really have it in me. Overall good experience, but nothing really stood out. She seems like she's more likely to be 23-25 than the 18-19 she promotes herself as and the pics are accurate, but make her seem just a bit sexier than she actually is in real life. I would repeat, but mostly because I let myself down by not being able to experience FS. English was fine with her, though I only spoke Portuguese.

Aurora Alfaiate.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/

Tiny tiny tiny spinner. Very cute girl and looks really young. She could easily pass for 18-19, but the local boards say she's 25. Decent BBBJ with DT, but that's where the positivity ends. Was challenging to book with her and then she was late (traffic), then her energy was just pretty low from when she got there. Maybe just a bad day, just seemed bothered to be there right from when she walked in. Was too small to take my size properly (not a brag. Just if you're bigger, she would have a difficult time with you because of how small she is) and just overall didn't set a good mood. I told her she could go before our hour was done, because I wasn't feeling the vibe anyway. Cute girl, if you're looking for a spinner, but I feel like there are better options. Excellent English and she's well-travelled.

Finally. Margarita Vaz, who doesn't seem to advertise anymore, but I'm still going to include this, in case she reappears.

I genuinely don't see what all the local hype was about. The big promotion about her was that she's young and considered one of the hottest (young) looking SP's in the city. I just don't see it. She's not that attractive (very average looking), has a very average (to slightly chubby for her frame) body, is definitely thicker than her pictures made her seem and was incredibly uninspired in every aspect of her visit. IMO not worth seeing, as there are better options in every single aspect. She's also at least 22-23, but could also pass for 30, so people that said she was the closest to looking 18 are fucked in the head.

Here's how I would rank them for the following categories, depending on what is important to you;.

Young looking;.

Flora.

Soraia.

Lara.

Eva.

Aurora.

Joana.

Margarita.

Attractiveness overall. Body / face / fit.

Flora.

Lara.

Soraia.

Eva.

Joana.

Aurora.

Margarita.

Service Level. Energy, BBBJ quality, FS, etc (although the top 4 were all great so splitting hairs).

Joana.

Flora.

Eva.

Lara.

Soraia.

Aurora.

Margarita.

Attitude / Personality / Booking Ease.

Flora.

Lara.

Eva.

Soraia (as long as you're ok with the shy type).

Joana.

Aurora.

Margarita.

[FutureLegend]

Has anyone had the opportunity to see Viviane Miler yet? She looks great and seems to have fairly open service. Thinking to partake on my next visit.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/

[Chichichi]

she managed to get the hotel security suspicious enough to stop her on the way up and call me for verification that I was expecting her. That was a first for me.

After that encounter with security, I didn't want to have outcall issues and had to cancel Debora.

Perhaps I'm mistaken but isn't this somewhat common and actually just good security? In countries where western men commonly visit (for example Phils, Thailand, Vietnam, Colombia) it's known that there are many women meeting men for mutual benefit but it's also not terribly uncommon for unscrupulous women to try to steal from men. When security sees a woman coming up that looks like she might be an escort they will check where she's going, ring the guest and make sure her company is expected and then often when she leaves they will ring the guest again asking if it's ok to let her go to make sure she didn't take anything / rip the guest off. This is for your security. I guess you could say you have a legit complain if the issues was that you wanted someone that looked very conservative and not like an escort.

[PER23]

Has anyone had the opportunity to see Viviane Miler yet? She looks great and seems to have fairly open service. Thinking to partake on my next visit.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/Yes, several times. She's perhaps the best looking girl next door type at EP next to Flora Neves. Legitimately 20 years old.

[Borrah]

Has anyone Experience with https://fernanda-lisbon.webnode.page/contact/ Not cheap but seems interesting.

[ExExpatriate]

Not in Portugal.

We've addressed this before in the thread. But to keep it short, many hotels have key-secured elevators, which means you need to go meet the lady in the lobby. But the few who don't aren't going to stop a lady who enters and goes about her business discretely and with confidence shouldn't be stopped. In a lot of other countries, they will harass women in the hotel as part of an anti-prostitute policy; the Portuguese don't care about that. Security isn't the motivation for the most part, and it isn't really an issue in the country at issue.

So to get picked up by security makes me wonder just WTF she was doing. That I.


Perhaps I'm mistaken but isn't this somewhat common and actually just good security? In countries where western men commonly visit (for example Phils, Thailand, Vietnam, Colombia) it's known that there are many women meeting men for mutual benefit but it's also not terribly uncommon for unscrupulous women to try to steal from men. When security sees a woman coming up that looks like she might be an escort they will check where she's going, ring the guest and make sure her company is expected and then often when she leaves they will ring the guest again asking if it's ok to let her go to make sure she didn't take anything / rip the guest off. This is for your security. I guess you could say you have a legit complain if the issues was that you wanted someone that looked very conservative and not like an escort.

[FutureLegend]

Yes, several times. She's perhaps the best looking girl next door type at EP next to Flora Neves. Legitimately 20 years old.Thank you!! Flora was the comparable that I was looking for. Time to put those travel points to work!

[Harry1217]

Thank you for the feedback on Telma and Lia, albeit without any detail.

'Do your homework' is indeed an apt title. You picked the wrong lady to start with from those two, as Debora has very good reviews across different sites, where as Telma appears to be unreviewed.

In my opinion you shouldn't have cancelled Debora either given the positive feedback about her; even if security had stopped her, that was a small price to pay for what would likely have been a good meet.

At least you had a good experience with Lia.



I've always wanted a GFE experience with a dark skinned spinner and Lisbon seemed the right city for that.

I had limited time, two or maybe three 2 h timeslots over 3 days, to meet someone and have never felt more spoiled for choice.

Made a shortlist of girls and made 2 outcall appointments in my hotel on successive nights. Telma Vaz and Debora Diaz.

Telma came back first, quoting 200, but walked it back by removing an anal surcharge I hadn't asked for. Left me worried a bit, but not too much. A long story short, I should have seen that for the red flag it was. It was a subpar experience with an uninterested girl and she managed to get the hotel security suspicious enough to stop her on the way up and call me for verification that I was expecting her. That was a first for me.

After that encounter with security, I didn't want to have outcall issues and had to cancel Debora.

I went to Permitase instead and received a subpar massage that ended in a nice enough FS, but my mood was soured by then.

On my last day I saw Lia Aida. It was a great experience despite ending in just a CBJ.

I'll go back, but will try to be smarter next time.

[Mongerer88]

Has anyone Experience with https://fernanda-lisbon.webnode.page/contact/ Not cheap but seems interesting.A group of ladies have begun advertising on webnode using English language only ads at relatively high prices.

https://escorts-portugal-upscale.webnode.pt/escorts-in-lisbon/

Many of the pictures are recognizable from almost a decade or more ago.

https://escorts-portugal-upscale.webnode.pt/escorts-in-lisbon/escort-angelina-torres/angelina-torres-pictures/#!

And what is alarming is that some of the pictures have the bestescortsportugal stamp, which was an agency that was part of a large conglomerate that had a terrible reputation for fake pictures, ladies leaving a half hour into a three hour date (they ran specials) and one very credible report of a buy being extorted by a lady. She said to pay him or she would start yelling the are word.

I thought and hoped that conglomerate had disappeared. One of the profiles on webnode, Cintia Lemos, was a valid independent provider, but she used to advertise on Apartadox and her last reviews were in 2008. Those are the same pictures, but she has no current ad on Apartadox.

Based on this information, I would not trust any ad on Webnode.

[ExExpatriate]

I have two rules about this sort of thing, and the overlap heavily:

Don't bother with any website not already on my photo-verified list. And don't bother with anyone who asks for substantially more than the market rate.

The latter isn't just about cost, but also a red flag for other reasons. There are a few ladies who ask for slightly more than market rate, which is A-OK: they might be testing the waters, think they are worth it or whatever, but they aren't blatantly pulling one over.

One of Portugal's real advantages are its photo-verified websites. They have their problems, but nothing compared to dealing with Eurogirls, webnode or whatever. Sometimes you will see women who advertise on Apartadox on one of these dodgier sites, for example, but you never see the dodgy ads on the upper tier sites.

It's really simple. Figure out what is in the top tier for reliability. Stick with those. 90% of your potential problems are gone. Why mess around with this other stuff? It's a waste of time.


Based on this information, I would not trust any ad on Webnode.

[Da Monger]

Fellas, I have a chance to stop over in Europe for 2 days on my way from China to Chicago. I have never mongered in Europe, have a trip to Germany next year and figured I will get the FKK experience later. I have been to Medellin many times, Philippines, Costa Rica, DR & other south American countries. I love the GFE type experience south american girls offer & given the short time, my plan is to stick with 2-3 escorts during the day and if I like them ask one to stay over night. After RTFF, I think Lisbon fits the bill for me. I don't care so much about the food, city etc only the quality of the women in looks & service. Am I wrong? Would you recommend Lisbon for this type of short trip? Or Is there another option I am missing. I appreciate any advice. Thanks.

[PER23]

Fellas, I have a chance to stop over in Europe for 2 days on my way from China to Chicago. I have never mongered in Europe, have a trip to Germany next year and figured I will get the FKK experience later. I have been to Medellin many times, Philippines, Costa Rica, DR & other south American countries. I love the GFE type experience south american girls offer & given the short time, my plan is to stick with 2-3 escorts during the day and if I like them ask one to stay over night. After RTFF, I think Lisbon fits the bill for me. I don't care so much about the food, city etc only the quality of the women in looks & service. Am I wrong? Would you recommend Lisbon for this type of short trip? Or Is there another option I am missing. I appreciate any advice. Thanks.Lisbon is a good city for the value, quality and level of service girls generally provide. Only thing I'd say is go with a good independent if you want an overnight. From my experience, the agency girls work to a quota of 3-4 clients per day and don't favour longer bookings. I'd book 2-3 hours with most girls and they'd be running off to another client the second we were done.

[Da Monger]

Lisbon is a good city for the value, quality and level of service girls generally provide. Only thing I'd say is go with a good independent if you want an overnight. From my experience, the agency girls work to a quota of 3-4 clients per day and don't favour longer bookings. I'd book 2-3 hours with most girls and they'd be running off to another client the second we were done.Thanks. Girls on apartadox like websites are independent right?

[TimeOutNow]

Where do I find your photo-verified list to you referenced? A straight google search brings up super sketchy results. Thanks!


I have two rules about this sort of thing, and the overlap heavily:

Don't bother with any website not already on my photo-verified list. And don't bother with anyone who asks for substantially more than the market rate.

The latter isn't just about cost, but also a red flag for other reasons. There are a few ladies who ask for slightly more than market rate, which is A-OK: they might be testing the waters, think they are worth it or whatever, but they aren't blatantly pulling one over.

One of Portugal's real advantages are its photo-verified websites. They have their problems, but nothing compared to dealing with Eurogirls, webnode or whatever. Sometimes you will see women who advertise on Apartadox on one of these dodgier sites, for example, but you never see the dodgy ads on the upper tier sites.

It's really simple. Figure out what is in the top tier for reliability. Stick with those. 90% of your potential problems are gone. Why mess around with this other stuff? It's a waste of time.

[ExExpatriate]

Sure thing. Portalprivado, Apartadox, Somassagens and Docemassagem.

There are very, very few worthwhile ladies in Lisbon who aren't advertising on one or more of these four. And all Escort Privada girls also run ads on Apartadox.


Where do I find your photo-verified list to you referenced? A straight google search brings up super sketchy results. Thanks!

[TimeOutNow]

And a lot of people are talking about reviews. Where do you find reviews of the escorts? These sites don't seem to have them. And how can you know if someone is independent? Really appreciate the info!


Sure thing. Portalprivado, Apartadox, Somassagens and Docemassagem.

There are very, very few worthwhile ladies in Lisbon who aren't advertising on one or more of these four. And all Escort Privada girls also run ads on Apartadox.

[ExExpatriate]

My understanding is the forum doesn't like it when we link to other forums. But there is a locals review board, and that is one of the major sources of info.


And a lot of people are talking about reviews. Where do you find reviews of the escorts? These sites don't seem to have them. And how can you know if someone is independent? Really appreciate the info!

[Da Monger]

Does anyone have a recommendation for a nice hotel that is also girl friendly? Will be staying for 3 days over the weekend.

[Mongerer88]

Does anyone have a recommendation for a nice hotel that is also girl friendly? Will be staying for 3 days over the weekend.All hotels in Lisbon, to the best of our knowledge, are girl friendly.

I have liked all three of these.

https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/lisemqq-the-emerald-house-lisbon/

https://www.ihg.com/holidayinn/hotels/us/en/lisbon/lisbn/hoteldetail

https://holiday-inn-lisbon.lisbon-hotel.org/en/#main.

[Emeli67]

I tested these ones and are OK.

Hotel Roma.

https://www.hotelroma.pt/en/

Hotel Alif. Campo pequeno.

https://www.alifhotels.com/en/Alif/Hotel-Alif-Campo-Pequeno.aspx

But in general I suppose almost all Lisbon Hotel are girl friendly.


Does anyone have a recommendation for a nice hotel that is also girl friendly? Will be staying for 3 days over the weekend.

[KrisMonger]

Stayed in Lisbon 4 nights and this is.Finishing what I started in this post.

5 nights - 4 girls as Outcall. Lisbon is a super easy click and order.

All girls were from Euro and the one with most restrictions was Manu - https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/manu/515962/ . No OWO, no kissing etc. She also wanted to go out after event quickly.

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/beatriz/556608/ - Hotter than the photos in person. Solid service. It is a shame that I only found her on my last day in Lisbon.

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/iza-castilho/480553/ - Solid GFE with good english. Visited me twice!.

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/pietra/425499/ - Pietra -another solid GFE experience. She is tall!. Super service oriented!.

Cost was consistently at 250 Euros for the outcall.

[ExExpatriate]

And that is why you shouldn't mess with that Eurogirls site. 250/ h is fantastically overpriced for Lisbon.

Iza Castilho is a longtime EP girl, who moved down to Lisbon from Porto. Their flat rate is 150/ h, so if you were charged 250, you got snookered.

Pietra is an ex-EP girl who now only advertises on dubious sites like Eurogirls or Massage Republic. She wasn't especially well-reviewed back in her EP days, so if she is very service oriented now, it would be quite a switch. And again, 250/ h is extremely overpriced.

[Brown Eyes]

And that is why you shouldn't mess with that Eurogirls site. 250/ h is fantastically overpriced for Lisbon.

Iza Castilho is a longtime EP girl, who moved down to Lisbon from Porto. Their flat rate is 150/ h, so if you were charged 250, you got snookered.

Pietra is an ex-EP girl who now only advertises on dubious sites like Eurogirls or Massage Republic. She wasn't especially well-reviewed back in her EP days, so if she is very service oriented now, it would be quite a switch. And again, 250/ h is extremely overpriced.Are the guys on EP and Apartodox independent ladies advertising on the sites or are they agency? When you contact the listed whatsapp numbers, are you dealing with the lady herself or someone on her behalf? Thanks.

[Brown Eyes]

Hi,

Does anyone have an informed views on the following ladies;.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/

https://escortprivada.com/escort/ariana-luz/

https://escortprivada.com/escort/ariana-luz/

[MojoinDallas]

Are there any girls that work from hotel bars similar to Poland and some other Easter European countries?

[ExExpatriate]

I don't know of either first hand, but Mongerer gives Sara pretty high marks. Ariana has been reviewed a few times that I've seen, and she was well-received, with the caveat that you'd better appreciate Amazons. She is as fit as she looks on the photos, and is six feet tall.


Hi,

Does anyone have an informed views on the following ladies;.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/

https://escortprivada.com/escort/ariana-luz/

https://escortprivada.com/escort/ariana-luz/

[ExExpatriate]

Most of the Apartadox ads are independents. However, EP advertises all of their roster there as well. They are the only actual agency that does so. Sometimes a lady working at a spa may also advertise on Apartadox, but they are doing so of their own initiative and may not be an "employee" of the spa, but merely renting space from them. The spa isn't advertising them. EP is the only one that does that, and I suspect they have some kind of tie with Apartadox.

So with EP, it depends. Some of the girls like to handle their own communications, and some prefer the agency to do it. However, the numbers all belong to the agency, so they are looking, even if they aren't talking.

But for an independent, it is always the lady herself. She may have some cut and paste boilerplate ready to answer basic questions (which is fine -- those must be asked 50 times a day), but it is her.


Are the guys on EP and Apartodox independent ladies advertising on the sites or are they agency? When you contact the listed whatsapp numbers, are you dealing with the lady herself or someone on her behalf? Thanks.

[KrisMonger]

And that is why you shouldn't mess with that Eurogirls site. 250/ h is fantastically overpriced for Lisbon.

Iza Castilho is a longtime EP girl, who moved down to Lisbon from Porto. Their flat rate is 150/ h, so if you were charged 250, you got snookered.

Pietra is an ex-EP girl who now only advertises on dubious sites like Eurogirls or Massage Republic. She wasn't especially well-reviewed back in her EP days, so if she is very service oriented now, it would be quite a switch. And again, 250/ h is extremely overpriced.Incall prices quoted by all of them was 150. Outcall was pretty much default to 250 with one doing a 200 (Iza). I will be curious if folks were able to pay 150 and get outcall with these girls.