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Georgest
07-23-16, 19:52
Arrived yesterday at Sheremetyevo. Got a sim card from the Megaphone store in the arrival area. It was pretty easy with the staff being able to speak English. I opted for the 4 gb 200 min package for 300 RUB. Had my first bad experience at Belarusky station when I was trying to explain to the lady at the ticket counter that I needed a troycard, to which she simply replied 'Go please! The metro system can be really hard to understand too. It seems though most people here won't even bother to communicate if you don't speak Russian. All these little encounters made me feel quite sad and left me questioning why I even came here. My biggest worry was how the hell am I supposed to get around by taxi late at night, when I can't even figure out the damn metro.

However, my impression started to get much better as I arrived at the hotel. There I also saw for the first time the first official 'mythical 11' in the lobby making her way out through the exit. Around 177-180 tall platinum blonde in high heels, looking very luxurious and posh. Probably better looking than any fashion model I saw on TV.s.Thanks for sharing MGLbadboi, great report! I can't wait to hear the rest of the trip and in particular your visits to the Loft and other strip clubs in Moscow.

Sanman30
07-27-16, 15:35
Going to Moscow for the first time, will be staying at Mamaison Pokrovka. Anyone know if this place is girl-friendly?

Thank you in advance.

Jake993
07-28-16, 11:24
Going to Moscow for the first time, will be staying at Mamaison Pokrovka. Anyone know if this place is girl-friendly?

Thank you in advance.Man, that's a tough one. Mamaison Pokrovka is kind of in the middle between a Western hotel and a Russian hotel. Sorry man, you are going to have to blaze the trail!

MGLbadboi
07-29-16, 12:05
Before arriving in Moscow, I bought a pair of Italian leather shoes hoping it would comply with the dress code. So on Friday night I put them on and went to check out Loft which was just across the street from Crowne Plaza. There was no cross walk so I had to use the underground pedestrian to get to the other side (The entrance is located 50 meters north of the hotel, but still inside the parking lot). Paid 2000 to enter and I felt very comfortable being there alone. There were 20 + strippers, many of them looked like pros or had huge lips and some were aging. Not my type. Communication can be a problem here if you don't speak Russian, and it can work against you sometimes. I had 2 brunettes earlier, so I had my eyes on this very slutty looking yet doable blonde and she was almost an 8. As I waited for her 2-3 brunettes came to offer dances for 300 RUB each. One of them was a young brunette with a pleasant face (probably the best looking from the crowd) but didn't lead up to anything more private either due to miscommunication. Finally the slutty looking blonde came to me. She had a really sexy village accent, Yay! During our short talk I think she mentioned something about private dance before moving on to other possible customers to solicit dance / sex. Again, language barrier being the cause I guess? Anyway, I wasn't really surprised with the girls there to be honest, so after a couple more drinks I left.

Moved to Novotel Moscow City in the business district the next day. A 3-star hotel with clean rooms and tolerant securities at a reasonable cost. Room key is not needed to use the elevator so its very convenient to bring in girls. I was having some very promising chats with 3 girls from intimacy over whatsapp / msgs.

Anketa- https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=255839.

Elivira- https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=266692.

Yulya- https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=269325.

The first 2 were high on my priority list, as I liked their photos a lot. I wanted to have a long crazy session with Anketa or Elivira, but was worried that I won't be able to hold for very long. So I thought why not call Yulya the black girl first for desert like some kind of warm-up before moving on to the main course. Within half an hour a meeting was arranged with the black girl at 15:00, and another meeting a bit later at 19:00 with Elivira.

Yulya matched the photos, but a bit more petite than the photos. She was actually a very cute black girl, very GFE and I liked hugging her though I would probably not repeat again or with any other black girl. So after sending Yulya away, I had another shower and waited for Elivira. I must say I was blown away when I opened the door for Elivira, a well dressed 180 tall brunette in high heels she was almost 1 feet taller than me. She really seems to enjoy sex and likes to talk during sex. She was also friendly and gave me some really amazing OWO We had sex in the chair, on the sofa and I finished in missionary after which I placed my head between her breasts and rested on her for 5 minutes.

I stayed at StandArt for my last night. After some sightseeing in red square I went back to Vanilia again, but this time I really came at a busy time. I was told to sit on the sofa next to the reception desk and wait for 10 to 20 minutes. Half an hour passed, still no sign of available service for me, but I saw this really good looking blonde, skinny tall definitely a 9 (maybe a 10 to some of you) walked up to the reception and quickly went back in. Finally after another 20 minutes, they were ready to serve me, but the selection was limited to 2 girls, and the pretty blonde was still on clock. The reception suggested that I should come back at 9 pm for better selection. So I left Vanilia, and started trying to arrange something with Anketa, but that never happened either as she has 'spontaneous' schedules. Another girl from intimacy who looked kind of like Megan Fox texted me saying that she was available to meet me, to which I agreed. Well, lets say it was an above average session. By the time it was over, I was tired so I went straight to bed. Didn't bother going back to Vanilia nor Night Flight.

To conclude, I would say Moscow is definitely a top destination for mongering. But a deep pocket and some language skills are the key to maximize the pleasure. If I could start it all over again, I would definitely pay more visits to Vanilia, and try out some other strip clubs with more patience or Night flight.

Georgest
07-30-16, 20:36
Before arriving in Moscow, I bought a pair of Italian leather shoes hoping it would comply with the dress code. So on Friday night I put them on and went to check out Loft which was just across the street from Crowne Plaza. There was no cross walk so I had to use the underground pedestrian to get to the other side (The entrance is located 50 meters north of the hotel, but still inside the parking lot). Paid 2000 to enter and I felt very comfortable being there alone. There were 20 + strippers, many of them looked like pros or had huge lips and some were aging. Not my type. Communication can be a problem here if you don't speak Russian, and it can work against you sometimes. I had 2 brunettes earlier, so I had my eyes on this very slutty looking yet doable blonde and she was almost an 8. As I waited for her 2-3 brunettes came to offer dances for 300 RUB each. One of them was a young brunette with a pleasant face (probably the best looking from the crowd) but didn't lead up to anything more private either due to miscommunication. Finally the slutty looking blonde came to me. She had a really sexy village accent, Yay! During our short talk I think she mentioned something about private dance before moving on to other possible customers to solicit dance / sex. Again, language barrier being the cause I guess? Anyway, I wasn't really surprised with the girls there to be honest, so after a couple more drinks I left..Thanks again for sharing your experience. You are not kidding about deep pocket. Checking the web site of the "intimacy" and looks like nothing good below $250 for an hour. Are you able to exchange money freely at the ATM's? Looks like $6500 Rub. For a $100 - is this about correct?

MGLbadboi
07-31-16, 02:00
Thanks again for sharing your experience. You are not kidding about deep pocket. Checking the web site of the "intimacy" and looks like nothing good below $250 for an hour. Are you able to exchange money freely at the ATM's? Looks like $6500 Rub. For a $100 - is this about correct?I changed money at Belarusky station, but they deducted 3% for their service which I thought was quite expensive. You can find these small exchange offices everywhere. Make sure to carry USD or EUR as they are more common / accepted. You can also pull local money out from cash machines. With intimacy, my advise is to look on the left and click on 'elite girls'. Go for the better looking, and more expensive ones. Use google translate to read everything on their profile, and the reviews. I found the market in Moscow to be quite mature. You pay more, you get better girl with better service and vise versa.

I say it would be a mistake to not go to Vanilia. I was really amazed with the line up. I still think about this young blond from my last visit to Vanilia even though I was not able to get a massage from her.

Jake993
07-31-16, 07:49
I stayed at StandArt for my last night. Thanks for the report MGLbadboi. Can we say then, that StartArt is "girl friendly"? It looks like it is based on your report. Please confirm. Cheers, Jake.

MGLbadboi
07-31-16, 09:12
Thanks for the report MGLbadboi. Can we say then, that StartArt is "girl friendly"? It looks like it is based on your report. Please confirm. Cheers, Jake.The lobby is very small and it felt like the policy was a bit more strict than Crowne Plaza and Novotel. Ask for where to smoke, its actually a hidden exit right next to the elevator that will lead you outside to the other side of the building. In my case, I picked up my girl at 8 pm, outside the main entrance on Pushkinsky, then I took her in through the 'hidden' entrance and were able to get into elevator unnoticed.

The rooms at StandArd are huge and extremely nice. They have gigantic TVs probably 70 inch and when you turn it off, it works as a mirror. Really cool lighting too. It will be perfect if you can get a 9 or 10 from NF or something and move on to some crazy session on those huge comfy bed, if you like mirror all the better.

Jake993
07-31-16, 19:40
In my case, I picked up my girl at 8 pm, outside the main entrance on Pushkinsky, then I took her in through the 'hidden' entrance and were able to get into elevator unnoticed.
You sly dog! Well done!! Thanks for the tip!

EirkKendos
08-02-16, 08:07
After a long business week, I decided to throw the cap over the mill and visit a domina in Moscow.

After searching through the web, I found some interesting offers on rusdosug.com , there I came across Mistress Karolina who I have known for some time and had a session with in Vienna before.

As I had already really very good experience with her there, I decided not to tempt fate by looking for something new and called her.

She didn't answer the phone right away, but answered my sms, we arranged a meeting in her BDSM studio. Great place that is well-equipped as well.

Prior to the session we discussed the scenario, I wanted the hard session. Mistress Karolina made her modifications to my plot, she is great at communication, smooth and friendly.

But during the session she gave herself to the process completely without any falsity and artificiality, seemed she likes it herself a lot.

Great experience, wonderful studio, professional level, very good looks as well, exactly as the photos, model body and go go dancer, very hot chick.

I didn't met a better one so far, neither in Europe nor in Moscow. Big plus is that she is fluent in English and understood me completely.

And also has her own site:

www.moscowfemdom.com

Good luch to all!

Wingwang
08-03-16, 21:04
Before arriving in Moscow, I bought a pair of Italian leather shoes hoping it would comply with the dress code. So on Friday night I put them on and went to check out Loft which was just across the street from Crowne Plaza. There was no cross walk so I had to use the underground pedestrian to get to the other side (The entrance is located 50 meters north of the hotel, but still inside the parking lot). Paid 2000 to enter and I felt very comfortable being there alone. There were 20 + strippers, many of them looked like pros or had huge lips and some were aging. Not my type. Communication can be a problem here if you don't speak Russian, and it can work against you sometimes. I had 2 brunettes earlier, so I had my eyes on this very slutty looking yet doable blonde and she was almost an 8. As I waited for her 2-3 brunettes came to offer dances for 300 RUB each. One of them was a young brunette with a pleasant face (probably the best looking from the crowd) but didn't lead up to anything more private either due to miscommunication. Finally the slutty looking blonde came to me. She had a really sexy village accent, Yay! During our short talk I think she mentioned something about private dance before moving on to other possible customers to solicit dance / sex. Again, language barrier being the cause I guess? Anyway, I wasn't really surprised with the girls there to be honest, so after a couple more drinks I left...Hello MGLbadboi,

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

I have been reading the Moscow forum while sometimes now and intimacy has a lot to offer. I'm really excited and can't wait to my first trip to Moscow.

As always, we all run into language barrier and from time to time we need help from the locals. It would be super if we have someone in Moscow forum offer their assistant, like Il Drago from Budapest forum.

WW

Chercheur
08-05-16, 10:19
Have already tried "Caf" Ego Gold? It is located close to Metro Mayakowskaya. Seems to be the new real thing. My colleague went there and was really impressed. It is located in the corner between Spiridonovka and Emolaevsky.I could not find Cafe EGO GOLD, where is it exactly?

Jake993
08-05-16, 11:48
I could not find Cafe EGO GOLD, where is it exactly?I believe it is in the Peking Hotel complex which is on the west side of Mayakovskaya Square.

SanGaetano
08-05-16, 18:11
I believe it is in the Peking Hotel complex which is on the west side of Mayakovskaya Square.No, it is wrong Jake. Ego gold is just few meters from the Patryarchy Prudi, on the other side of the Sadovaya. I already put the correct address on this Forum. It is the newest Venue in town.

I know about it because my colleague has been there. The place was a karaoke bar before. Now it is a "VIP gentlemen's club" as my buddy put it.

Attention: Face control.

SanGaetano
08-05-16, 18:24
There were 20 + strippers, many of them looked like pros or had huge lips and some were aging. Not my type..Mine neither. It is becoming popular now to enlarge lips. One of my regular WGs asked me if she should do it. I said "no, you don't need it as you already have beautiful lips". Actually their lips look normal, and I was OK with that. Well she did the operation anyway), now she's looking like a female bozo. She agrees that this was a mistake.

Well, of course juicy lips are better for sucking a cock, but other than that I don't see any aesthetic advantages. Before the op she looked normal, now she looks like a professional Dick Sucker.

Gaolegao366
08-08-16, 13:38
It has been a old discussion. Overall, where is the better city for mongering and not get ripped off easily, Kir or Moscow. I saw YouTube videos about Kiev and I think Moscow would be more classy and have more other things to do like sightseeing there.

Cucumber
08-09-16, 14:17
It has been a old discussion. Overall, where is the better city for mongering and not get ripped off easily, Kir or Moscow. I saw YouTube videos about Kiev and I think Moscow would be more classy and have more other things to do like sightseeing there.Wrong question. Correct answer: Petersburg.

SanGaetano
08-09-16, 19:41
Kiev vs. Moscow is a tough question.

I was not long enough in Kiev in order to judge fairly, but I was quite impressed with the quality and talents over there.

Plus the prices are way lower than in Moscow in almost any kind of services.

Chercheur
08-14-16, 19:54
Mamba is a gold mine.

I use it in Moscow as an elderly man; it is full of women in their 30's and 40's who are attractive and sexually liberated, who have a normal job, decent money, 1 or 2 kids, and no husband or friend. They are very happy to meet a decent man and have sex.

I always pay to avoid any misunderstanding and any further disappointment, but maximum 10,000 rubles (150 $).

They know what is the purpose of the meeting and they accept it, so most of the times, if not every time, they get their clothes off right away, take a shower and we make love like real lovers, woooooo I love the Russian women.

No commitment, just if I want to see them again some time later, I just call them and we set up a meeting, and no question asked.

It is very easy to be busy every day.

I have been learning Russian for 8 years and it pays, if you speak only English, that reduces the number, but the best ones speak English (the real hookers too).

SanGaetano
08-18-16, 11:29
I have been learning Russian for 8 years and it pays, if you speak only English, that reduces the number, but the best ones speak English (the real hookers too).Oh Gaspodi. 8 years is a long time.

Have you learned in a school or just by speaking on everyday (like I do). I am lazy to go to a language school.

Do you think it is possible to learn it by just speaking to Russians and watching movies / hearing Russian songs?

Which method would you recommend best?

Jake993
08-21-16, 05:36
Mamba is a gold mine.I used Mamba with great success (in Moscow and SPB) for casual sexual encounters for several years and then had a string of bad luck so I stopped. But looking back, the greatest success was with girls (women) who were older than about 27. With younger girls, Mamba was a disaster. All kinds of mis-matched expectations. I agree with you Chercheur, if used correctly, Mamba can be a goldmine.

Chercheur
08-21-16, 17:25
Oh Gaspodi. 8 years is a long time.

Have you learned in a school or just by speaking on everyday (like I do). I am lazy to go to a language school.

Do you think it is possible to learn it by just speaking to Russians and watching movies / hearing Russian songs?

Which method would you recommend best?IMHO I don't think you can learn a language which is as different as the Russian language just by speaking; the grammatical is specific, the words are not similar, and the way to talk is different.

On the opposite Portuguese is a Latin language and as a French speaker, I am leaning it just by speaking and reading a school book, 70% of the words are similar.

I start learning Russian at 50 by spending one month every year in a language school in Russia.

On the second year I could meet with only Russian speaking women, and maybe on the fourth year I could take the appointment by phone.

A great advantage of learning Russian is that the Russians love to be loved, and for them to learn their language is a proof of love, and I can see it in my relations with the women.

It is still sometimes difficult to find the Dom, the korpus and the Podvest, but that is not only due to a lack of understanding the lingo.

I quit taking course after 5 year, I should continue, but it is difficult for me because I speak good enough to spend some time in Russia and not enough to have a fluent conversation, and there is still a lot to study and to practice to get there. Now I am on pension, and I would like to find something consistent to do, part time, in Russia; anybody has an idea?

Jake993
08-22-16, 06:19
A great advantage of learning Russian is that the Russians love to be loved, and for them to learn their language is a proof of love, and I can see it in my relations with the women.
Ha, ha, ha you are so right. This is like an aphrodisiac for some Russian women. However, I do admit that some of the more cynical ladies see right through the ploy. But they appreciate the effort none the less.

Skwiskwis
08-22-16, 13:46
Jake has been visiting Russia for 20+ years. Chercheur states in his post he has been visiting Russia for at least four years and also was spending a "month" for at least 4 years in a Russian language school.

Do you (Jake and Chercheur) actually believe that you (Jake and Chercheur) are "typical" mongers to Russia?

Your typical Russian monger visits either StPb or Moscow, hits the clubs, saunas, etc that he finds on this forum or on the web, is middle class (he has a budget in Russia), middle aged or older, tries to find a cheap or reasonably priced hotel or short term rental apartment, is probably European, visits Russia for about a week, and is looking for cheap or free sex with Russian models. He also typically believes that being a western foreign male gives him vast amounts of currency in Russia, that being from the west means he's more sensitive and understanding than Russian men, and that he wouldn't have to be visiting Russia except that all the women in his own country have become bull dyke feminists.

The women he meets are almost always pros or semi-pros.

His idea of learning Russian is memorizing a few phrases from his tour guide on the plane from Paris to Moscow. Now do you actually believe that the 3 hours they invest in "learning" Russian is going to give them access to your Russian experience? You (Jake and Chercheur), when addressing typical mongers, are as venerable Shaolin masters are to peasants, and your suggestions on girl venues and practical stuff is doctrine, but advising typical mongers to "learn Russian"? If your typical monger lucks out and gets a chance to have a conversation with a "normal" Russian girl, he will be much better off playing the "practice English with me I'm a native speaker or good English speaker and I'm a sensitive male and a good listener and all I ask is you wear a short skirt" card, if indeed he can speak English well and can at least fake the sensitivity. Every single young Russian who aspires to a business career is trying to learn English these days, and your peasant monger can get a foot in the door with a "normal" Russian girl during the 7 days he's in Russia just by inviting her to practice her English with him.

Jake993
08-23-16, 06:15
Do you (Jake and Chercheur) actually believe that you (Jake and Chercheur) are "typical" mongers to Russia?
I can't speak for Chercheur, but I certainly HOPE we are not the typical mongers to Russia. It's clear that I (we) have struck a nerve with you when it comes to the Russian language. I am not suggesting that the new monger to Russia invest a ton of time learning the language. However, whatever time he DOES invest in learning a little "survival Russian" is time well spent. I know several guys who have lived in Russia for nearly 20 years and STILL don't speak a word of Russian. Yet, they seem to have no trouble finding girlfriends. What ever works for you, works for you. For me, learning Russian has worked wonders for my sex life in Russia. Is it absolutely necessary? No, of course not. It's merely opens a dimension of options and experiences that are not available to those who don't have a working knowledge of the language. That's it.

By the way, I have only been visiting Russia for 10 years. Not 20 as you stated.

Chercheur
08-23-16, 11:03
It's merely opens a dimension of options and experiences that are not available to those who don't have a working knowledge of the language. That's it.I could not say better.

I have been mongering in South-East Asia when I was in my twenties and early thirties, that was the right place and the right time for me.

Now I monger in Brazil in the winter time and in Russia in the summer time; Rio is a very nice and fun place to live in in January, but, IMHO, not come close to Moscow in term of quality of the women for beauty, education (not sure what is the exact meaning in English, but all possible meanings are included) and sexual appetite.

Come to Russia, start with the English speaking women, and then you will see.

But many of the English speaking women I have met, do travel abroad, so don't expect too much magic from your speaking English, those days are gone for good.

Jonathan Pine
08-23-16, 23:46
For the guys that come to Moscow only for sex reasons, and stay for a week or two, speak no Russian, you're bloody too late. 15 years too late. Sure you can spend hours a day, everyday for weeks prior to coming to Moscow trying to arrange for paid sex. But why bother? Moscow is expensive and lots of headache if one doesn't speak the language to navigate the city. For the same amount of money or less, you can stay in your home countries and get Russian hookers, strip dancers.

I assume the reason that guys still come because they still have the illusion of finding a mail order bride type of girl that gets her pussy all wet when seeing a foreign man. I have bad news for you. You're bloody too late. My advice for you guys is to stay home, don't bother coming to Moscow or Russia. But if you're stubborn and insisting to come and see the real situation with your own eyes, then my advice is to go to Night Flight and pick up a copy of Moscow Times. Yes it's in bloody English. Go to the last page. There are a couple escort agency ads.

Yes yes I know you can also go to dance clubs to meet girls. But if you can pull it off, you should be able to pull it off back home, too. Might actually be easier and cheaper.

Nobody likes to accept the reality that pussies no longer grow on trees in Russia. But we can't turn back the clock. Russia has moved on, and so should us. If one insist to something about it, then I suggest to switch to drive a more fuel efficient car back home, turn the thermostat a few degrees lower in winter. Then we might have a slight chance to turn back the clock a bit.

Or you can try to learn Russian.

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08-24-16, 13:02
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Uncle Volodya
08-25-16, 05:22
IMHO I don't think you can learn a language which is as different as the Russian language just by speaking; the grammatical is specific, the words are not similar, and the way to talk is different.

On the opposite Portuguese is a Latin language and as a French speaker, I am leaning it just by speaking and reading a school book, 70% of the words are similar.

I start learning Russian at 50 by spending one month every year in a language school in Russia.

On the second year I could meet with only Russian speaking women, and maybe on the fourth year I could take the appointment by phone.

A great advantage of learning Russian is that the Russians love to be loved, and for them to learn their language is a proof of love, and I can see it in my relations with the women.

It is still sometimes difficult to find the Dom, the korpus and the Podvest, but that is not only due to a lack of understanding the lingo.

I quit taking course after 5 year, I should continue, but it is difficult for me because I speak good enough to spend some time in Russia and not enough to have a fluent conversation, and there is still a lot to study and to practice to get there. Now I am on pension, and I would like to find something consistent to do, part time, in Russia; anybody has an idea?BTW: it's "podezd" not "podvest".

Dom, Korpus and "podvest" can all be found pretty easily on google maps these days. In the old days we used to have to lug around the "Atlas Moskvi".

OblikoMoralee
08-25-16, 12:28
Not sure why my previous message was treated as "private", while it was not private at all since it wasn't directed to the specific user (though was a reply to one) but to everyone on the thread. My point was, if anyone on the forum wants my assistance as Russian speaker, he can (respectfully to forum rules) pm me. Information of interest to all readers on this thread, I guess.

Georgest
08-27-16, 01:45
Not sure why my previous message was treated as "private", while it was not private at all since it wasn't directed to the specific user (though was a reply to one) but to everyone on the thread. My point was, if anyone on the forum wants my assistance as Russian speaker, he can (respectfully to forum rules) pm me. Information of interest to all readers on this thread, I guess.Obliko,

We can't PM you. I imagine you are not a paying member? I would love to get more information and help from you.

Yupi Yup
08-31-16, 10:29
For the guys that come to Moscow only for sex reasons, and stay for a week or two, speak no Russian, you're bloody too late. 15 years too late. Sure you can spend hours a day, everyday for weeks prior to coming to Moscow trying to arrange for paid sex. But why bother? Moscow is expensive and lots of headache if one doesn't speak the language to navigate the city. For the same amount of money or less, you can stay in your home countries and get Russian hookers, strip dancers.

I assume the reason that guys still come because they still have the illusion of finding a mail order bride type of girl that gets her pussy all wet when seeing a foreign man. I have bad news for you. You're bloody too late. My advice for you guys is to stay home, don't bother coming to Moscow or Russia. But if you're stubborn and insisting to come and see the real situation with your own eyes, then my advice is to go to Night Flight and pick up a copy of Moscow Times. Yes it's in bloody English. Go to the last page. There are a couple escort agency ads.

Yes yes I know you can also go to dance clubs to meet girls. But if you can pull it off, you should be able to pull it off back home, too. Might actually be easier and cheaper.

Nobody likes to accept the reality that pussies no longer grow on trees in Russia. But we can't turn back the clock. Russia has moved on, and so should us. If one insist to something about it, then I suggest to switch to drive a more fuel efficient car back home, turn the thermostat a few degrees lower in winter. Then we might have a slight chance to turn back the clock a bit.

Or you can try to learn Russian.I think its the most accurate current description of Moscow mongering scene. This post should be considered similar to double espresso in the morning.

Why Nott
08-31-16, 12:40
For the guys that come to Moscow only for sex reasons, and stay for a week or two, speak no Russian, you're bloody too late. 15 years too late. Sure you can spend hours a day, everyday for weeks prior to coming to Moscow trying to arrange for paid sex. But why bother? Moscow is expensive and lots of headache if one doesn't speak the language to navigate the city. For the same amount of money or less, you can stay in your home countries and get Russian hookers, strip dancers.

I assume the reason that guys still come because they still have the illusion of finding a mail order bride type of girl that gets her pussy all wet when seeing a foreign man. I have bad news for you. You're bloody too late. My advice for you guys is to stay home, don't bother coming to Moscow or Russia. But if you're stubborn and insisting to come and see the real situation with your own eyes, then my advice is to go to Night Flight and pick up a copy of Moscow Times. Yes it's in bloody English. Go to the last page. There are a couple escort agency ads.

Yes yes I know you can also go to dance clubs to meet girls. But if you can pull it off, you should be able to pull it off back home, too. Might actually be easier and cheaper.

Nobody likes to accept the reality that pussies no longer grow on trees in Russia. But we can't turn back the clock. Russia has moved on, and so should us. If one insist to something about it, then I suggest to switch to drive a more fuel efficient car back home, turn the thermostat a few degrees lower in winter. Then we might have a slight chance to turn back the clock a bit.

Or you can try to learn Russian.I agree with you 100%.

RoyBoy
09-01-16, 14:46
Not sure why my previous message was treated as "private", while it was not private at all since it wasn't directed to the specific user (though was a reply to one) but to everyone on the thread. My point was, if anyone on the forum wants my assistance as Russian speaker, he can (respectfully to forum rules) pm me. Information of interest to all readers on this thread, I guess.Hi,

PM on this site requires a paying account.

Email addresses are not allowed on posts.

I would be very interested in the help you suggest.

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Putologist
09-06-16, 08:04
But why bother? Moscow is expensive and lots of headache if one doesn't speak the language to navigate the city. For the same amount of money or less, you can stay in your home countries and get Russian hookers, strip dancers.

In my last trip to Germany I went to a Puff, there I was talking to a Romanian hooker about Germany and Russia during one break between the act, and she said they used to have a Russian girl in that Puff, but she left to a better place (upgrading) a FKK flat rate club in Bavaria, whatever it might be. Well anyway she said local German and Romenian WGs don't always get along with some Russians because they seem to be more popular among German mongers. Once in Cologne I was in another Puff and I had a very young blond Russian student, oh man I can tell you, she did everything I wanted, and she seemed to be a newbie according to the way she behaved, you could feel that odor of fresh meat. I went to the same place again after 1 year. But she was not working there anymore and the Puffmutti was angry, because I left the place without ordering any of the other girls. She probably got upgraded too, or married a German Hartzler)))

Jake993
09-08-16, 08:11
In my last trip to Germany I went to a Puff, there I was talking to a Romanian hooker about Germany and Russia during one break between the act, and she said they used to have a Russian girl in that Puff, but she left to a better place (upgrading) a FKK flat rate club in Bavaria, whatever it might be. Well anyway she said local German and Romenian WGs don't always get along with some Russians because they seem to be more popular among German mongers. Once in Cologne I was in another Puff and I had a very young blond Russian student, oh man I can tell you, she did everything I wanted, and she seemed to be a newbie according to the way she behaved, you could feel that odor of fresh meat. I went to the same place again after 1 year. But she was not working there anymore and the Puffmutti was angry, because I left the place without ordering any of the other girls. She probably got upgraded too, or married a German Hartzler)))Ah yes, once you are spoiled by Russian fresh meat, it is hard to be satisfied by anything else. September in Moscow (and Kiev) is magical because there is always a fresh crop of students from the provinces.

Liabatyd14
09-12-16, 23:13
Ah yes, once you are spoiled by Russian fresh meat, it is hard to be satisfied by anything else. September in Moscow (and Kiev) is magical because there is always a fresh crop of students from the provinces.Hi Jake and all,

Talking about students. Where are these days the places and cafes in Moscow where you can meet the crop of students? Any hints?

Cheers,

Liabatyd14

Jake993
09-14-16, 06:00
Hi Jake and all,

Talking about students. Where are these days the places and cafes in Moscow where you can meet the crop of students? Any hints?

Cheers,

Liabatyd14If you have spent any time at all reading this forum, you would have learned that one of the best student hang outs (for our purposes) in Moscow is Papas Place located at Nikolskaya St, 10.

Liabatyd14
09-14-16, 21:22
If you have spent any time at all reading this forum, you would have learned that one of the best student hang outs (for our purposes) in Moscow is Papas Place located at Nikolskaya St, 10.Thanks. Did not know this was still actual. Good to know.

Slavicgourmet
09-15-16, 11:37
I can't speak for Chercheur, but I certainly HOPE we are not the typical mongers to Russia. It's clear that I (we) have struck a nerve with you when it comes to the Russian language. I am not suggesting that the new monger to Russia invest a ton of time learning the language. However, whatever time he DOES invest in learning a little "survival Russian" is time well spent. I know several guys who have lived in Russia for nearly 20 years and STILL don't speak a word of Russian. Yet, they seem to have no trouble finding girlfriends. What ever works for you, works for you. For me, learning Russian has worked wonders for my sex life in Russia. Is it absolutely necessary? No, of course not. It's merely opens a dimension of options and experiences that are not available to those who don't have a working knowledge of the language. That's it.

By the way, I have only been visiting Russia for 10 years. Not 20 as you stated.IMHO "speaking russian" in mongering is just an "urban legend", a myth. Either you LIVE in Russia at least for some months and it is obviously helpful.

But as a tourist (or a monger) it is not. You just need "survival russian" (asking directions, reading signs of Metro stations, understanding menus in restaurants etc).

As for communication with average russian women, if they speak only a little your language, let them talk! You are not here to practice your (fresh) russian, but to show that you like to hear this woman speaking even bad your language. It helps a lot to put her in your bed!

Anyway if you can not have (spontaneously) a long discussion with your woman in russian or in your language, you save time and efforts! What other things can you do both together?

Putologist
09-17-16, 07:41
And in the meantime, while we discuss about fakettes or not fakettes, learning Russian or not learning Russian.

The real Miss Moscow is offering escort services in Dubai, in perfect English ha ha. This world is unfair)

Alex7J
09-17-16, 09:06
And in the meantime, while we discuss about fakettes or not fakettes, learning Russian or not learning Russian.

The real Miss Moscow is offering escort services in Dubai, in perfect English ha ha. This world is unfair)Absolutely true man: There is so much Russian pussy in Dubai that it outnumbers all other WGs and lets say all together is equal to Russian women in DXB.

Such a true anecdote.

Cheers.

FredZee
09-18-16, 22:02
Spoiler alert. Don't bother to read any further as there was no sessions to report. Only disappointments from a visit to Penthouse and Vanilia Massage (Arbat).

I had convinced myself that I was just going to hang out in my hotel room after long couple of days but decided, wrongly, that I should check out Penthouse as I was close by and then maybe walk over to Vanilia to get a nice massage. Well, I did make it to both but if I had to do over again, I would have stayed in and saved myself 3000 rub and a near mugging.

So, let's see as briefly as possible.

- Took a taxi from the Radisson Slavaskya to Penthouse as it was raining. Taxi driver ripped me off by charging 900 rub for a 5 min ride. Strike 1.

- Entered the Penthouse club and had to pay 2000 rub cover. Read the cover was 1000 rub and said so but the girl insisted 2000 rub. Perhaps my info is old. Anyways, about 12 guys and about 20 girls. Some definite hotties in there. I sat at the bar and asked to get a drink at which point the bar tender said "One second" and never came back. I had a nice looking blonde come up to me and did the usual, where are you from, etc. Then hit me with a "let's go to room and play". I asked what the cost was and she said 10000 rub for her and 5000 rub for the house for 1 hour. WOW! No thanks! At this point, I decided I didn't want to stick around. The vibe of the club was not good for me so I decided to leave. At the exit the security guys who patted me down asked "Tip for security". Uh. No! - Strike 2.

- Checked Google Maps and Vanilia was a short walk away and walked over there. Well, there were a line of 5 guys waiting and I decided to head back to the hotel. I was in a bummed out mood and decided to walk. It was now 2 am in the morning but New Arbat St is nicely lit. I was almost back to the hotel when two Russian guys were walking the opposite direction of me and one of them decided to grab my arm and said somethin in Russian and I pushed him away and quickly sprinted to the hotel. Luckily they didn't follow. Strike 3 and 4 . So I am out already per baseball parlance.

Bottom line, compared to my first trip to Moscow and Vanilia this was a huge disappointment. I think fun can still be had in Moscow. I chalk this up to an off night.

Jake993
09-19-16, 05:09
Spoiler alert. Don't bother to read any further as there was no sessions to report. Only disappointments from a visit to Penthouse and Vanilia Massage (Arbat).Man, I am really sorry to hear about your bad experience. Security tip? WTF? Never heard of such a thing. That and the near mugging indicate to me that the economic situation may have worsened to the point where people are trying stupid shit. I assure you, this sort of thing is not typical. I think you got it right; you had a bad night. Hope you have better luck next time.

KnightRob100
09-25-16, 21:17
When being in Moscow I usually check the local escort directories such as https://www.rusdosug.com/ , http://otsos2.com/, http://devochki10.com/ and http://msk-prostitutok.net/.

Usually these sites are a hit or a miss. I usually do not trust the too glamorous studio pictures but give it a try with ladies who post more natural photos or even selfies. I also enjoy the video clips you can find in many profiles, which also increase the chance the lady you are going to meet is really the one who uploaded the profile.

I also have good experiences with finding escorts on some international escort directories such as renowned sits City of Love and Punterlink. The advantage is that girls speak often better English than the ones you will find only through the local directories. Downside is that often agencies post fake photos on such international directory sites. I had a very memorable date with a lady of the agency I found here: http://www.slavic-companions.com/international-erotic-services-nightlife/russia/moscow-escorts-call-girls/young-and-pretty I met actually the girl of the pics: Angela. She was recommended by the agency operator (who was very kind and patient with me) because she speaks fair English and seem to be willing to offer what I was looking for: a genuine GFE with deep French kissing and oral without. She happened to be a lovely young doll, similar as in the pictures with a slim body an angelic eyes. She is very active and playful in bed with only a few limits such as CIM. I will not easily forget the great natural blowjob and 69 session with her. If all the girls of this agency will deliver the same level of service, then this agency deserves a place in the bookmarks of the frequent Moscow traveler.

RainMan8
09-26-16, 08:54
I am looking to visit a strip club. When I search strip club Moscow, it appears http://goldengirls.ru. Anyone been to this club? Any comment?

Explorer8939
09-26-16, 20:20
IMHO "speaking russian" in mongering is just an "urban legend", a myth. Either you LIVE in Russia at least for some months and it is obviously helpful.

But as a tourist (or a monger) it is not. You just need "survival russian" (asking directions, reading signs of Metro stations, understanding menus in restaurants etc).

As for communication with average russian women, if they speak only a little your language, let them talk! You are not here to practice your (fresh) russian, but to show that you like to hear this woman speaking even bad your language. It helps a lot to put her in your bed!

Anyway if you can not have (spontaneously) a long discussion with your woman in russian or in your language, you save time and efforts! What other things can you do both together?I guess I am the exception, but over the years, I managed to learn enough Russian for mongering purposes, and have spent time in provincial cities where no one speaks English.

RainMan8
09-27-16, 00:30
I went to club Angel last night. The entrance fee is 2000 ruble. Drinks are in reasonable price. Tips for a dance is various few hundreds. Private dance costs 2000 ruble at one song's time in a room. Since it is Monday night, not many man inside and around 20 gals. Some single man sitting a sofa who can speak Russian gets a value deal, min charge 3000 a sofa, maybe it's weekday, most of the time two gals sitting around and stay long time drinking and chatting with the guy. Overall, a fairly good experience.

Jake993
09-27-16, 06:21
I am looking to visit a strip club. When I search strip club Moscow, it appears http://goldengirls.ru. Anyone been to this club? Any comment?Yes. It's ok. I believe it's located at the old Golden Palace casino. Nothing special. I prefer Angels / The Loft / Aurora 911 / Penthouse Club. Better girls, better on site facilities.

Gepard32
09-28-16, 22:24
Hi,

Anybody experience with the following girls? I am on my way to Moscow.

Marina.

http://www.mamba.ru/mb1307288305

Ekaterina:

http://www.mamba.ru/mb1491736526

Thanks for help.

Rankine
09-29-16, 07:14
Hi,

Why on rusdosug.com, there are many Masseuses that charge 29 $ for 1 hour and 99 $ for 2 hours? What is the logic?

Shall I avoid those?

Thanks!

Protocol
10-01-16, 02:29
Hi,

Why on rusdosug.com, there are many Masseuses that charge 29 $ for 1 hour and 99 $ for 2 hours? What is the logic?

Shall I avoid those?

Thanks!You're asking about logic?

In Russia?

Gepard32
10-02-16, 20:47
I found what I want with Diana (found on the first page of Rusdosug). She is exactly as her pictures (this does not happen so often!) and is all I wanted. We did everything (no anal, but I put my finger in her ass while eating her pussy, very nice).

It was a pretty good GFE (a lot of deep kisses and licking and variety in the sexual activities). Because of Vodka I was very long to come, but the girl never complained. Over the 2 hours I came only once and she did her best to make me come a second time with no success. Actually she took the lead after the first shot to get be back to business, she could have left. I fucked her then in every position until I really had to crush in my bed. She almost apologized for not making me come a second time.

Tonight I plan on Anya, but she is not so responsive on Whatsapp, so we'll see how it turns out!

Oh, I forgot to mention that Diana was really cheap. 110 (no extra)! That's the cost of a massage for 2 hours of unlimited sex.Any more insight about Diana? Did someone had her with her red hair girlfriend for a threesome? Does she do anything without condom?

MinoMancini
10-04-16, 21:15
Hi,

Around middle November I will land early morning in SVO.

I should be ready around 5 AM in airport or 5.40 in Belorusskaya station.

9 AM I have a meeting.

Any suggestion about how to spend 2 hours of fun?

Thanks mates.

Jake993
10-05-16, 12:22
Hi,

Around middle November I will land early morning in SVO.

I should be ready around 5 AM in airport or 5.40 in Belorusskaya station.

9 AM I have a meeting.

Any suggestion about how to spend 2 hours of fun?

Thanks mates.There are many massage places right near Beloyusskaya station.

Lizka
10-10-16, 18:03
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CastOnThis
10-11-16, 21:56
Any reports on Virgin Club in Moscow? They seem to have opened a second club, so it must be good? I really want to go now, since visiting their webpage. Seems like they have a lot of hot dancers.

Andy7
10-12-16, 09:33
Guys can anyone here point out any good resources for mature women BTW 50-65 yrs old. I'm really into big old ladies but not sure how to go about finding them in Moscow & St. Petersburg for my upcoming trip. I have shortlisted few profiles at rusdosug, otsos2 all ranging between 2 k-3 k rub, but not sure how genuine those profiles are, moreover I want to play safe specially when I'm visiting an unknown apartment. So verified listing is something I'm looking for.

Gupina
10-12-16, 13:45
Can someone recommend an massage place near SVO?

Gepard32
10-16-16, 18:58
I met last week again with Tanya (https://www.rusdosug.com/indi27612-1.htm). She is really a nice woman and it is a pleasure to talk with her as well. Sex was very passioante and as last time it was possible without rubber. If you treat her like a lady it should be no problem. She told me that she does not mind to have unprotected sex with a nice man. Be nice to her.Tried Tanya a couple of weeks ago. Not really my type, a little to old. Guess you have to add another 6 -8 years on top of the advertising, but can confirm CummerBareback. She is very passionate and a friendly woman. Paid 150 $ for an hour with a massage.

Cucumber
10-18-16, 21:55
Guys can anyone here point out any good resources for mature women BTW 50-65 yrs old. I'm really into big old ladies but not sure how to go about finding them in Moscow & St. Petersburg for my upcoming trip. I have shortlisted few profiles at rusdosug, otsos2 all ranging between 2 k-3 k rub, but not sure how genuine those profiles are, moreover I want to play safe specially when I'm visiting an unknown apartment. So verified listing is something I'm looking for.Hi Andy7.

I share your interest in mature women. Russia should be the perfect place for this, but I seem to always get distracted by the younger ones. I would be glad to hear if you have any luck. I was came across brothel in Moscow by chance where there were only mature ladies, something like 32-55 years old. Unfortunately I could never find it again, but something like that would be perfect because it is so hit and miss following up one ad at a time.

Cucumber.

CumerBareback
10-25-16, 07:41
Tried Tanya a couple of weeks ago. Not really my type, a little to old. Guess you have to add another 6 -8 years on top of the advertising, but can confirm CummerBareback. She is very passionate and a friendly woman. Paid 150 $ for an hour with a massage.Agree! I met you some days ago again and it seems that she is a bit older. It is nor a problem for me since I sometimes like mature ladies with a sexy body. I just saw she changed also her age to 38. First time I met her she was still 32. Booked her for a night and it was again very good. I always have the feeling she enjoyed sex and also to get my juice inside her. If anyone likes older ladies, she is strongly recommended.

Lilian
10-26-16, 15:36
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DeeDeeRamone
11-03-16, 20:31
Well I've heard about this place but whoa. I'm a are'and't guy and this is the best I've ever had. $100 AU for an hour with a 25 yo, model looks. 10/10 massage, 10/10 tug. Shower before and after, full touching. If you are in Moscow and you want to relax, go here! Unfortunately I've got to go to st Petersburg tomorrow so can't go back. But I must find a similar place there. Suggestions welcome.

Nikola111
11-15-16, 07:57
Well I've heard about this place but whoa. I'm a are'and't guy and this is the best I've ever had. $100 AU for an hour with a 25 yo, model looks. 10/10 massage, 10/10 tug. Shower before and after, full touching. If you are in Moscow and you want to relax, go here! Unfortunately I've got to go to st Petersburg tomorrow so can't go back. But I must find a similar place there. Suggestions welcome.Yes, guys, very good location, all the advice, 10 of 10.

CumerBareback
11-21-16, 17:54
Met again with Tanya last week. Still one of my favorite mature ladies in Moscow. We agreed on 350 Euro for the night; it seems she is also in crisis mode. I met her at 20:00 at the lobby of my hotel and took her to my room. She was looking very sexy. A dress with stockings. I asked her to wear it. Since we knew each other, we had sex right when entering my room. Very good performance and I still have the feeling that she likes a lot when getting cum inside her pussy. Later we had a rest, spoke a bit and had a drink. Later we had an other round where she allowed me to cum in her mouth. Still a 10 out of 10 if you like maturate ladies. If you ask for bareback, just be polite. It is at her discretion.

LoverOfTravel
11-23-16, 18:10
Looking for advice on where to go for two nights in Moscow? Definitely will check out night flight, trying to decide which strip clubs to try between aurora 911, Penthouse club, Rasputin, Virgins, loft or golden girls. I'm OK with paying a little more if the girls are amazingly beautiful. Any advice? What is the usual rates in rubles these days?

Jake993
11-24-16, 05:48
Looking for advice on where to go for two nights in Moscow? Definitely will check out night flight, trying to decide which strip clubs to try between aurora 911, Penthouse club, Rasputin, Virgins, loft or golden girls. I'm OK with paying a little more if the girls are amazingly beautiful. Any advice? What is the usual rates in rubles these days?Looks like you read the forum. Good man. I think you have all of the info you need for two nights in Moscow. The going rate in NF is anywhere from 12,000 to 20,000 rubles. About the same for on-site sex in Angels. PH is a little more because of the goofy hotel room arrangement.

PeterMills
11-24-16, 21:43
I met Ellena several days ago, it was already my second time I saw her and I really enjoyed it again. She has it all. A great personality, beauty and body, matched by an obvious love of sex. We agreed on 400 euro for 5 hours of eating out and sex at her place. She looked very sexy wearing a dress with stockings and boots. It was an incredible experience and she certainly knows how to turn a guy on. She is an interesting person and has a university degree in history which was a nice bonus as she told me interesting details about Russian history and famous people. She also knows a lot about Moscow as from her own words she worked as a guide when a student.

After dinner, we went to her place, which is a great location in the center and very cozy and good. I asked Ellena to bring her Victoria Secret lingerie (which she wears in several of her photos). Coming out of the shower I was greeted by her wearing stockings and suspender and we started with lots of touching all over before moving to the bedroom. After an extended and extremely deep throat, taking me to the edge on several occasions, I had a lovely time licking her pussy, it tasted so sweet and tight and was astonished when she squirted, then we moved to sex and I was amazed when she came (and squirted) again almost as soon as I entered her. I find it hard to believe but she came and squirted three times more before I also came. Ellena genuinely loves sex and if she is relaxed and enjoying your company, I am sure you will have an equally fantastic experience. She has a great body, smooth and soft, as for her age, she is 32 as she confessed, a bit older that on her site, but looks amazing.

Her web-site where I found her: vipelegantescort.com.

DocInHeat
11-27-16, 18:25
Just arrived in Moscow and in my hotel, there are several flyers for clubs, are any of these good for a monger? Or are they just places to pay for high-priced drinks and get nothing else?

Provocateur.

Night Flight.

Virgins.

Burlesque.

LE Rouge.

Jake993
11-28-16, 04:28
Just arrived in Moscow and in my hotel, there are several flyers for clubs, are any of these good for a monger? Or are they just places to pay for high-priced drinks and get nothing else?

Provocateur. -

Night Flight.

Virgins.

Burlesque.

LE Rouge.Night Flight is the original. The rest are upstarts. Might be good but I have not tried them.

If you have dinner in the restaurant, entrance to the club is complimentary. Otherwise, entry is about $50.

If you go for dinner, don't arrive before 9:30 PM. If you are just going straight to the club, don't arrive before 11:00 PM.

Have fun.

DocInHeat
11-29-16, 06:38
My first night free from work and went with a friend to Night Flight at 2230. Had free coupon from hotel, otherwise would've been 1800 rubles with a free drink.

Only one other guy there in the whole place and passed a line of women sitting, many of whom quickly stood in front of us after we sat down and 2 of the oldest women soon sat down.

Had 2 drinks for 1000 rubles and soon was offered time at our hotel for $500. I almost started laughing, but didn't want to be too rude. She offered a discount, but I was definitely not interested in her and didn't want to even begin the hassle of negotiations at those prices. Ended up leaving and went to a regular bar. Will try elsewhere soon.


Night Flight is the original. The rest are upstarts. Might be good but I have not tried them.

If you have dinner in the restaurant, entrance to the club is complimentary. Otherwise, entry is about $50.

If you go for dinner, don't arrive before 9:30 PM. If you are just going straight to the club, don't arrive before 11:00 PM.

Have fun.

DocInHeat
11-29-16, 07:33
Also, as soon as one girl got up another quickly took her place and I should note that the last girl that I spoke with was a Ukarainian named Illyana, who was tall and thin and definitely doable. But my friend wanted to move on, so I didn't even start talking prices with her.


My first night free from work and went with a friend to Night Flight at 2230. Had free coupon from hotel, otherwise would've been 1800 rubles with a free drink.

Only one other guy there in the whole place and passed a line of women sitting, many of whom quickly stood in front of us after we sat down and 2 of the oldest women soon sat down.

Had 2 drinks for 1000 rubles and soon was offered time at our hotel for $500. I almost started laughing, but didn't want to be too rude. She offered a discount, but I was definitely not interested in her and didn't want to even begin the hassle of negotiations at those prices. Ended up leaving and went to a regular bar. Will try elsewhere soon.

LoverOfTravel
11-29-16, 14:20
I will be in Moscow on a Saturday and Sunday night which night should I try night flight and which night is the strip club best to attend. Also any recommendations for the best strip club.

Jake993
11-30-16, 04:53
I will be in Moscow on a Saturday and Sunday night which night should I try night flight and which night is the strip club best to attend. Also any recommendations for the best strip club.Friday and Saturday are dead at Night Flight. Sunday is better but only a little in terms of selection. As for strip clubs, any night is good. My personal favorites are Angels and Aurora 911.

Jake993
11-30-16, 05:02
Had 2 drinks for 1000 rubles and soon was offered time at our hotel for $500. I almost started laughing, but didn't want to be too rude. That sucks. One would have hoped that they were more competitive. Business can't be THAT good. I forgot to mention that in these places, the moment the negotiation start in dollars, you might as well walk away. ALWAYS quote rubles. The going rate in Moscow for a tier one fuck these days is 15,000 rubles ($230). Tell the girls that you will pay 12,000 rubles maximum and say no more. Even if she walks away, word will spread quickly amongst those vipers and one will be sure to discuss it with you further.

DocInHeat
11-30-16, 08:25
This is an excellent idea!

We were pegged as Americans as soon as we walked in speaking english to the door people and I think that's what got them thinking they could rip us off. That's why we have ISG!


That sucks. One would have hoped that they were more competitive. Business can't be THAT good. I forgot to mention that in these places, the moment the negotiation start in dollars, you might as well walk away. ALWAYS quote rubles. The going rate in Moscow for a tier one fuck these days is 15,000 rubles ($230). Tell the girls that you will pay 12,000 rubles maximum and say no more. Even if she walks away, word will spread quickly amongst those vipers and one will be sure to discuss it with you further.

WanderTheWorld
11-30-16, 23:21
That sucks. One would have hoped that they were more competitive. Business can't be THAT good. I forgot to mention that in these places, the moment the negotiation start in dollars, you might as well walk away. ALWAYS quote rubles. The going rate in Moscow for a tier one fuck these days is 15,000 rubles ($230). Tell the girls that you will pay 12,000 rubles maximum and say no more. Even if she walks away, word will spread quickly amongst those vipers and one will be sure to discuss it with you further.Are these rates for an hour or for night?

DocInHeat
12-01-16, 06:05
Generally an hour


Are these rates for an hour or for night?.

DocInHeat
12-01-16, 06:07
If you want to do take out, then Night Flight. If eat in, do a strip club!


Friday and Saturday are dead at Night Flight. Sunday is better but only a little in terms of selection. As for strip clubs, any night is good. My personal favorites are Angels and Aurora 911.

DocInHeat
12-01-16, 06:15
After the Night Flight fiasco, decided to try a strip club the next free night and it was great. At least 50 women, all of them 7 to 9. 75 (to me 10 is perfection and there is no such thing in real life!

About a quarter of the women are waitresses, who will do lap dances if you want, but I don't think they will go into a room with you, the rest will. Private lap dance is 2000 rubles, going into a room for an hour will cost 10,000 rubles for the girl and 5000 rubles for the room rental. I took Illyara, a gorgeous blonde with spectacular breasts. She was great, sexy and pretty eager to please and would've been fine with 2 shots, but given that it was 3:30 am, I only had one in me The only small problems were everything was covered and she didn't speak any english whatsoever. I still left happy, as did my 2 wingmen.

MGLbadboi
12-01-16, 16:51
Planning another trip to Moscow around late December. Will definitely go back to Vanilia. And fulfill some of my other desires which I didn't do in my last trip in the summer, like taking a hot girl from NF across the street to standard hotel and make love in those amazing beds. I also want to try Aurora 911.

I remember reading somewhere that Moscow becomes a ghost town during new year, as people move away to their hometowns to celebrate the holiday.

Is this true? I hope this does not affect the operations of these venues mentioned above? How is the mongering scenes in general around Dec 23-26?

DocInHeat
12-02-16, 01:11
I forgot to mention, that one of my business hosts brought me to the City Space Bar in the top of the Swissotel. Unfortunately, he didn't have too many guests like me were interested in getting dirty and so had just heard that there were hostesses for hire there. Unfortunately, we were there on a Tuesday, which was apparently an off night. There were definitely some business types there talking to young beautiful girls and there seemed to be someone working as the girls' manager. But when my contact asked, he was told that no one was available because it was a quiet night.

So there definitely are hostesses there, but I have no idea if you need to be connected to get service and if you can do more than talk. And I'm sure it'd be expensive.

Marty Mastenb
12-02-16, 20:24
Hi,

That is general in Russia.

But mainly the first week in Jan is national holiday so people usually go to family.

During western Christmas live is as normal.

Marty.


Planning another trip to Moscow around late December. Will definitely go back to Vanilia. And fulfill some of my other desires which I didn't do in my last trip in the summer, like taking a hot girl from NF across the street to standard hotel and make love in those amazing beds. I also want to try Aurora 911.

I remember reading somewhere that Moscow becomes a ghost town during new year, as people move away to their hometowns to celebrate the holiday.

Is this true? I hope this does not affect the operations of these venues mentioned above? How is the mongering scenes in general around Dec 23-26?

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12-05-16, 01:17
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Stravinsky
12-06-16, 03:28
Planning another trip to Moscow around late December. Will definitely go back to Vanilia. And fulfill some of my other desires which I didn't do in my last trip in the summer, like taking a hot girl from NF across the street to standard hotel and make love in those amazing beds. I also want to try Aurora 911.

I remember reading somewhere that Moscow becomes a ghost town during new year, as people move away to their hometowns to celebrate the holiday.

Is this true? I hope this does not affect the operations of these venues mentioned above? How is the mongering scenes in general around Dec 23-26?The Russian Orthodox church never adopted the Gregorian calendar, they are still on the Julian calendar, so Christmas and New Year in Russia are off by a couple weeks.

The Soviet government did adopt the Gregorian calendar, so New Year is celebrated on January 1st, along with the rest of the world. This is followed by the "old" Christmas on the 7th and the "old" New Year on the 14th. The 24th and 25th of December are pretty much like the 4th of July in London.

There is never a time when Moscow is a "ghost town", any more than New York, or London or Paris could be ghost towns. There are millions of people who live in Moscow and they aren't going anywhere, at least not in the dead of winter. It may be that many of the dyeffki you are hoping to meet, who moved to Moscow from the provinces for the specific purpose of fleecing the gringos, will return to Yaroslavl, or Ivanovo or Goose Khrystal to celebrate with their families.

There is an extended holiday period in early January, I believe it's about 2 weeks. But this is primarily for government offices; the Post Office will close during this time. But private businesses should still be operating.

So, as long as you don't need to mail a letter, you should be fine.

BTW--you do speak Russian, don't you?

TheLover2017
12-06-16, 22:47
Hello friend,

I'm coming to Moscow for the first time in January.

Is there any sex parties in Moscow like what used to be called "Lady Marmalade Parties" (LMP) / and today "The Phoenix Club" in London? These are Sex Parties that last 2 hours and plan for 6 working girls, with only single male guests to a maximum ratio of 2:1, and 3 parties every day. You can fuck with all the girls for as many times as you can, all for 160 pound.

Is there anything similar in Moscow?

Thanks.

Putologist
12-07-16, 08:13
Well, it sounds like a lot of fun, but I don't think you can find such venues in Russia because it would be against the existing Russia Law against prostitution.

This is the reason why on this Thread the guys basically discuss more about strip clubs, which is boring for my taste.

I'd love to visit a Russian LMP (it is similar to German / French Gangbang parties or sex FlatRate parties), but no way you will find it on Russian territory.


Hello friend,

I'm coming to Moscow for the first time in January.

Is there any sex parties in Moscow like what used to be called "Lady Marmalade Parties" (LMP) / and today "The Phoenix Club" in London? These are Sex Parties that last 2 hours and plan for 6 working girls, with only single male guests to a maximum ratio of 2:1, and 3 parties every day. You can fuck with all the girls for as many times as you can, all for 160 pound.

Is there anything similar in Moscow?

Thanks.

SanGaetano
12-07-16, 08:46
Event yourself if you speak good Russian, but like wingman said there will always be a risk, and to party under fear can be a big turnoff.

GoldenRule
12-07-16, 17:20
Hi brothers,

I am in Moscow for 4 days want to know some good erotic parlor near hotel Novotel Moscow city.

Also if anyone has good escort no.

PM me. It would great help and will reciprocate for Kazak and Moldova and Dubai area.

Jake993
12-12-16, 09:40
I forgot to mention, that one of my business hosts brought me to the City Space Bar in the top of the Swissotel. Unfortunately, he didn't have too many guests like me were interested in getting dirty and so had just heard that there were hostesses for hire there. Unfortunately, we were there on a Tuesday, which was apparently an off night. There were definitely some business types there talking to young beautiful girls and there seemed to be someone working as the girls' manager. But when my contact asked, he was told that no one was available because it was a quiet night.

So there definitely are hostesses there, but I have no idea if you need to be connected to get service and if you can do more than talk. And I'm sure it'd be expensive.Oh yes, those girls are available for all activities. Sorry for slow reply as I have been traveling with limited access to ISG.

Jake993
12-12-16, 09:46
Well, it sounds like a lot of fun, but I don't think you can find such venues in Russia because it would be against the existing Russia Law against prostitution.

This is the reason why on this Thread the guys basically discuss more about strip clubs, which is boring for my taste.

I'd love to visit a Russian LMP (it is similar to German / French Gangbang parties or sex FlatRate parties), but no way you will find it on Russian territory.Sorry for the slow reply. I have been traveling and had limited access to ISG.

There are no such parties per se. However, the Russian version of this activity is "banya" or "sauna".

ALL banyas can organize girls to come in an look after your needs.

https://sauna.ru/

Pick a banya that's close and fits your budget and have fun.

Gepard32
12-16-16, 10:39
I will be back in Moscow next week.

Does anyone has a good recommendation (Escort) for me? Preferably without any taboos.

JamesKim86
12-18-16, 04:31
Planning another trip to Moscow around late December. Will definitely go back to Vanilia. And fulfill some of my other desires which I didn't do in my last trip in the summer, like taking a hot girl from NF across the street to standard hotel and make love in those amazing beds. I also want to try Aurora 911.

I remember reading somewhere that Moscow becomes a ghost town during new year, as people move away to their hometowns to celebrate the holiday.

Is this true? I hope this does not affect the operations of these venues mentioned above? How is the mongering scenes in general around Dec 23-26?No, I been in Moscow last year in late Dec (20-28) it was no problem, don't worry about that.

Also thank you for prompt appeal to an escort agency beauty students, Janna is real very nice gall! By the way I also can recommend you one very nice girl-Diana, who I tried before Janna, last month in my trip, from first page of Rusdosug (https://www.rusdosug.com/indi197541.htm), was a very nice experience with call-girl in Moscow, before I saw discussion of her person on this forum and decided her to write, for me, Korean guy, she was my first non-Asian girl, I worried a bit, but she was really good, much better than her photos, really tall and big breast, nice tattoo on back side, she really can speak good English, all service was real, blowjob without condom was fantastic, before there were doubts, confused low price, but it was true. By the way, she very friendly with Asian, speak Chinese a little, pretty nice and funny, I spend 3 hours in her company that's why can recommend! Also from Rusdosug I had nice ebony lady Merit (https://www.rusdosug.com/indi224075.htm), but is different story, she was nice and no more, too hight price for her.

Hope my experience was useful and maybe help you, thanks again!

JamesKim86.

LoverOfTravel
12-18-16, 18:56
Started the night at penthouse club some beautiful girls only one ten in my books though. I like the layout of the club.

Next was the loft not as many girls but 3 tens in my books. Nice layout as well.

Next stop was angels! Not as many beautiful girls and I was not a fan of the layout inside.

Sarangdharp
12-29-16, 16:27
Hi Friends! I am coming to attend a conference in Moscow in the last week of Feb 2017. The organisers have suggested the President Hotel (the conference would take place there) but I found the prices to be a bit steep. Can you guys suggest some hotel which is reasonably priced, not very far from President and where our activity is allowed? Thanks a lot in advance!

Casu123
01-02-17, 14:17
Visited this beautiful, kinky lady today, and thought I would share as she was incredible.

https://www.rusdosug.com/indi236516.htm

She seemed a bit unfriendly on the phone but she was really nice, if a little awkward in person. Once we got down to business though she was absolutely wild, and really knows how to use her tongue stud. She's a little on the high side price wise but it was definitely worth it. Everything is included including, apparently, anal. I was enjoying her pussy so much that I didn't confirm this one.

One thing, her English is almost none existent. It never seemed like a problem though.

SamSam81
01-03-17, 14:37
Hi,

A great way to find freebies or "normal" girls who are interested to meet in return for a small present is to use Russian dating websites (one in particular). Many of the girls speak English at least to that extent that a date can be set up. I can send you the info in PM.

Mng23
01-04-17, 07:46
Date & time of session: December 20th. 13:00.

Location: Vanilia Massage by Noviy Arbat street.

Name: Maya.

Nationality & Language: Russian Girl knows about 30 words in English.

Age: 20-21.

Face: 4/5.

Body: 5/5 Perfect body. 6 ft, athletic, with long legs, and a tits and ass to die for. Simply an angel from Heaven.

Skill: 5/5 Never been happier with a massage service.

Service: 10/10 Well I've heard about this place but whoa. The lineup was world class.

This service is the best I've ever had. $100 USD for 90 minutes, model looks. 10/10 massage, 10/10 tug. If you are in Moscow and you want to relax, go here!

GFE: 5/5 full touching and fondling. Playing with ass and pussy. Showers before and after.

PSE: 5/5 The sight of her pussy and asshole on your face while she was sitting on you and dancing while giving you a rub was unbelievable. I thought I was high on meth or something.

Price & Session Length: About 110 $ USD, for 90 minutes. Shower, A Legitimate massage, A body to body massage and a hand-job of a lifetime to be closed with an intimate shower.

Repeat: Most definitely.

I asked for a picture afterwards, met with a polite refusal, however when I asked for a picture with no face, she agreed. As I have said before, never been happier with a paid sex service before.

At that price, I simply cannot wait to go back to Russia.

GaryWs
01-08-17, 19:52
I always wanted to try sex with Russian girl. I decided to try independent girl because I heard lot of bad reviews about agencies. My choice put to escort directory website escortnews. I found Olga without face, she has sexy body. I wrote her whatapp to send me selfie with face, she sent me to her website www.honeyolga.com. Finally I decide to invite her in hotel. I really was surprised! She looks sexy and cute, good process. I can say, I had super experience. My recommendations!

HugeDickMan
01-12-17, 07:05
The most dependable clubs to find pretty girls you can fuck are Aurora and Angels. For 15000 rub, they do most sexual acts too. I especially enjoy performing DATO on them, with their ass in the air and in 69 position.

BrianHelb
01-12-17, 17:49
Was cold to go find girl, I decided to call escort girl. My impression took classyelena.com. When I called her, it was late, but I was lucky. She arrived to room. I had hot time, and very sensual massage. I payed 10.000 rubles for an hour, it was fantastic. I am enjoyed.

Kaappo22
01-13-17, 22:12
I'll be visiting Moscow in a couple of weeks with few colleagues. We're interested in trying a sauna this time. I found a website with hundreds of saunas to choose from, so that part is easily done. But does anyone have recent knowledge about the prices of the girls available? We'll likely need 4 girls for 2-3 hours. Should we be prepared for the 5000-10000 rubles / girl / hour price range when we let the sauna operator bring in the girls, or are they more expensive than normal prostitutes? I assume we pay for time, so switching who of us takes which girl for second round might be negotiable for same price?

A friend of mine speaks basic Russian, and we've experienced prostitutes, massages and brothels in St. Petersburg and Moscow before, but now it would be fun to test a sauna. Money isn't really the issue, but it would be good to know a rough estimate of price before booking the sauna so we'll bring enough cash with us.

LoverOfTravel
01-15-17, 03:40
Went to six strip clubs in two nights. Definitely would have to rank them as follows:

Loft #1 the most beautiful girls but not as many in total.

Penthouse club #2 lots of girls with a few tall beautiful blondes.

Aurora 911 #3. Layout of this club is OK. Almost as many girls as penthouse with two hotties.

Angels #4. Did not like the layout of this club. The least beautiful girls of the big 4 clubs.

Was convinced by a taxi driver to try a couple other clubs which were terrible.

Next summer I want to try egoist gold and egoist.

Love me some Russian women.

Jake993
01-16-17, 10:23
Money isn't really the issue, but it would be good to know a rough estimate of price before booking the sauna so we'll bring enough cash with us.Unfortunately, the price of sauna girls is a bit of a moving target based on the place you visit. Generally speaking, you should budget about 2000 rubles per hour per girl. This will get you basic "sauna companions" who will be good for a little slap and tickle and to sit and drink with you. You have to remember, ordering girls for the sauna does not necessarily mean that you are going to have sex with them. I know it sounds a bit goofy, but often a group of Russian guys will order up girls for the sauna for the company and to see them prance around naked and to whack them with birch branches (viniki). You have to admit that there certainly is something a little bit erotic about lying bare ass naked in the sauna being beaten by a naked woman with a birch branch.

If you want to get into more serious sex, the girls will let you know how much. And for that you probably need to be prepared to spend an additional 5,000 - 10,000 rubles depending on what you have in mind. And don't forget to offer then food and drinks. It makes them feel a little less like prostitutes and gets them in a more festive mood.

Eddy Beg
01-17-17, 22:18
Hi Friends! I am coming to attend a conference in Moscow in the last week of Feb 2017. The organisers have suggested the President Hotel (the conference would take place there) but I found the prices to be a bit steep. Can you guys suggest some hotel which is reasonably priced, not very far from President and where our activity is allowed? Thanks a lot in advance!Hi!

I stayed at the President hotel last summer. Yes, the price is a little high, but the level of this hotel enough high. If you don't want to be disappointed, I don't recommend you to stay at a too cheap hotel. It will spoil your impressions about Moscow. Better to spent money on more exciting things. So, my recommendations of this hotel!

Stravinsky
01-18-17, 20:22
Dateline Moscow, January 17th, 2017.

President of Russian Federation Confirms Quality of Russian Prostitutes.

In a public statement made today, during a news conference with the President of Moldova, President Vladimir Putin made a clear and convincing statement regarding the quality of prostitutes in Russia. In response to a question, the President of the Russian Federation stated, "Without a doubt, they are the best in the world".

This statement was made in response to a question from the press regarding the visit of Mr. Donald Trump to Moscow and his experiences with prostitutes during his stay.

President Putin declined to speak specifically about the actions of Mr. Trump while in Moscow, however, there was some question about President Putin's controversial response with regard to whether or not he was referring to Russian prostitutes, or American politicians, but the general feeling was that President Putin was referring to Russian prostitutes.

USA President Barack Obama declined to comment.

Eddy Beg
01-20-17, 14:59
Well I've heard about this place but whoa. I'm a are'and't guy and this is the best I've ever had. $100 AU for an hour with a 25 yo, model looks. 10/10 massage, 10/10 tug. Shower before and after, full touching. If you are in Moscow and you want to relax, go here! Unfortunately I've got to go to st Petersburg tomorrow so can't go back. But I must find a similar place there. Suggestions welcome.There is a romantic sexy place I Liked. It's Zavist bar in St. Petersburg. There are always a bright, enchanting girls who are ready to dance a private dance for you. I felt exciting, like on the top of the wave. Drinks, snacks, girls. All for you. Awesome!

SanGaetano
01-25-17, 03:56
There is a romantic sexy place I Liked. It's Zavist bar in St. Petersburg. There are always a bright, enchanting girls who are ready to dance a private dance for you. I felt exciting, like on the top of the wave. Drinks, snacks, girls. All for you. Awesome!I looks like there are 3 of them there. Is it a chain or just coincidence? And, can I have private dancers in all 3 places?

Thanks.

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Kabukicho
01-28-17, 17:24
Dateline Moscow, January 17th, 2017.

President of Russian Federation Confirms Quality of Russian Prostitutes.

In a public statement made today, during a news conference with the President of Moldova, President Vladimir Putin made a clear and convincing statement regarding the quality of prostitutes in Russia. In response to a question, the President of the Russian Federation stated, "Without a doubt, they are the best in the world".

This statement was made in response to a question from the press regarding the visit of Mr. Donald Trump to Moscow and his experiences with prostitutes during his stay.

President Putin declined to speak specifically about the actions of Mr. Trump while in Moscow, however, there was some question about President Putin's controversial response with regard to whether or not he was referring to Russian prostitutes, or American politicians, but the general feeling was that President Putin was referring to Russian prostitutes.

USA President Barack Obama declined to comment.Hahaha that was hilarious.

Irstaar
01-29-17, 09:56
Hello everyone!

Will be stuck in Moscow international airport for few hours. Can anybody advise any action inside airport area. Someone mentioned massage therapy inside airport. Can experienced members please confirm. Any help is appreciated.

Massimoweb
02-01-17, 11:21
Hi,

Last week I have been in Moscow for a short business trip.

I contacted this girl, Diana, from Rusdosug:

https://www.rusdosug.com/indi212202.htm

Everything available on her menu. Called her around 8 pm and agreed for two hours in my hotel, including pissing (me on her) and anal licking, 180 euro, unlimited shots.

She replied quickly, via whatsapp, to my enquiries, and she reached my hotel on time, at 9 pm.

The photos are real, although she is a little bit overweight compared to the photos on the website.

Willing to please, very good oral skills, long anal licking, final with a nice CIM.

Sex in any position, she offered anal as additional service for 50 euros more, but I declined.

Not a clock watcher, I did not regret.

I would repeat.

Sarangdharp
02-01-17, 19:44
Hi!

I stayed at the President hotel last summer. Yes, the price is a little high, but the level of this hotel enough high. If you don't want to be disappointed, I don't recommend you to stay at a too cheap hotel. It will spoil your impressions about Moscow. Better to spent money on more exciting things. So, my recommendations of this hotel!Hi Bro, thanks for your response. I agree with you and have already booked the President. Now coming to our favorite activity, are there in-house girls available in the bar or do I need to go out. What's the most reasonable route to get a girl in the room. I presume, President is a Green hotel for us?

Thanks in advance!

LoveBuzz
02-04-17, 11:15
Gents,

As we all know most of the pics on the various website are fake, photoshopped and appear on various different portals. I will be in Moscow end of Feb and I am really interested to spent a night at the hotel with a lady.

Maybe somebody has a recent good experience he can share.

Any recommendation is welcome.

Some phone numbers respond on via text or WhatsApp. But a friend told me to be careful. The lady that will rock up is most probably not the one from the pictures you saw.

I remember similar situation a while back in Istanbul. I was lucky that night. The real lady was way more attractive than the one I saw on the escort page.

Kaappo22
02-20-17, 11:26
Back home after an awesome trip to Moscow.

On Friday we went to Vanilla massage at Bolshaya Molchanovka. The hostess offered us one of the VIP programs claiming it's by far their most popular choice. Price was rather high, 8000 rubles for 70 minutes. We knew that she's trying to make easy money from tourists, but since two of our group were first timers, we chose that program instead of the cheaper ones we've had there before. You can check their website or ask for English menu at the salon to see what's available and what the prices are. There were about 10 pretty girls available at 5 pm. I chose Afrodita, http://5massage.ru/photomassage/bodi-massazh2.

She had a slim body with size 1,5 breasts. Her ass was nice, large and round, and she had big lips made for sucking cock. She told me she her family background is from Greece, that explained the slightly exotic look. Massage and erotic massage were OK, she was a pleasure to watch from the big mirror on the wall. She didn't speak English at all, some of the girls chosen by us spoke a few words, some basic English.

On Saturday it was time to test the sauna like planned. We asked the girl at the hotel reception to start calling places from sauna. Ru and after a few calls she found a place that was available and reasonably priced. Meanwhile my friend had convinced the Central Asian lady working at the hotel restaurant to meet in his room after her shift. That feat was done mostly with a pen and paper since she knew about three words of English.

After a short taxi ride we arrived to the address of the sauna. It looked like your average Moscow apartment building, so after walking around it twice we called the sauna's number ourselves. Turned out the sauna was operating in the basement of a small restaurant. There was a pool, jacuzzi, huge Turkish bath with a massage table, common room and two bedrooms. There was a button on the wall that we could use to call the girl working at the restaurant downstairs. After some drinks, food, kaljan (shisha), sauna and socializing with friends it was time to call the waitress downstairs again and ask for girls. She told that the price is 10 000 rubles for a girl for two hours. We decided to order four girls.

About an hour later two women in their forties appeared, a blonde and a black haired. They wanted money, we payed the agreed price. They were happy and outgoing, but hardly spoke any English. Luckily they were true professionals, and knew how to use their cellphones to translate the conversation. It didn't take long until my friend disappeared with the blonde. Shortly later the black haired led me to a bedroom, but my friend and the blonde were busy there so we went to the toilet for suck and fuck. After that we returned back to the common room for more drinks and partying.

The blonde started talking to me, so I went over and opened her towel to see her boobs and pussy. We went to sauna, and she gave me a decent massage. We went back to the common room, and three more girls, this time in their twenties, appeared. They looked nice, so we decided to keep them all and have five girls instead of four. I took a tall, sexy looking redhead to the bedroom, but it was reserved again. I suggested we go to the toilet for sex, but she knew that there's the second bedroom as well. So we went there, she gave a nice BBBJ and we had sex.

The restaurant was closing by now, so we had to dress up and head out. The elder pros had already left after their two hours expired, but the 3 stayed and partied with us until closing time. The price for sauna was 2000 rubles an hour, but the drinks, food and kaljan drove the price much higher. All the prices could be seen in the restaurant menu that we had downstairs, so no surprises.

I had moved on to the next girl, a tall skinny black haired girl. I played with her breasts and fingered her while we were waiting on stairs to get out. She told me that she likes strangling, is a lesbian and would love to see her friends being fucked. I'm not quite sure if strangling is my thing, but had she spoken up an hour earlier I could have filled at least two of her wishes. One of the girls decided to leave, an old Lada came to pick her up. The red haired I fucked earlier and my new girl decided to join us to our hotel. The girls emptied my friend's minibar while I went back in a taxi to get the rest of our group. After we all finally got there it was getting pretty late. The girl I was fooling around with wanted 6000 rubles for two more hours. I was getting tired and both the girl and I were pretty wasted, so I instead offered her 6 000 for the whole night which would be mostly sleeping and an early wake up so I can catch my plane. She had to make a phone call, but didn't get a permission to agree to my offer from the person on the other end. I played a little more with her naked body, and off to the night she went.

Total damages for the night for our group besides a lost phone, watch and pants are murky, cloudy and unknown, but we all think it was well worth for whatever we paid. We headed home happy but tired.

Yandex taxi was great for getting around, we knew the price beforehand and no need to communicate with the driver.

Ross123
03-06-17, 08:01
Last time I was in Moscow was about a year ago, so I thought I would check out a couple of clubs before I leave, first club I went was Angels, the choice of girls was OK and one in particular caught my eye, she gave a very GFE and was great.

However more to the point prices have gone up since my last visit, entrance now seems to be 2,000 roubles and room rent 6,000 a year ago entrance was 1,500 and room rate for an hour was 5,000, with the British pound being weaker and the British being poorer after Brexit, an hour of pleasure is now pretty expensive.

The girls still charge 10,000 for 1 hour so at least they have not raised their prices.

To add to that the cost of a drink is around 400 and add to that a few tips to the girls, and the total bill soon adds up to around almost £300.

Last night I tried Loft as I heard good things about the place, the club is bigger than Angels and I guess there were probably more girls to chose although the quality was no different from that at Angels, only one girl stood out from the lot, had the perfect body but she the wrong attitude it certainly was not the GFE experience I had at aurora.

Goei1163
03-10-17, 14:00
Just a quick question on the African ladies on Dosug, Any experience with these ladies? Can it be worth while or is it a rip off.

I am in good old Moscow next week and was thinking of trying.

Meesee
03-11-17, 00:44
Just a quick question on the African ladies on Dosug, Any experience with these ladies? Can it be worth while or is it a rip off.

I am in good old Moscow next week and was thinking of trying.Please report back what you find. I am considering the same in May when I return.

Jake993
03-13-17, 06:53
Please report back what you find. I am considering the same in May when I return.For the most part, the African ladies speak good English in Moscow. Most of the ones I have encountered are from Uganda, Nigeria, Mali, and a handful of sub-Saharan African countries. Unlike girls from Dubai, they tend NOT to be from African Muslim countries where "female circumcision" is practiced. In my opinion this is good as girls who are "cut" tend not to find sex as enjoyable.

The handful of sexual experiences I have had with black girls in Moscow have all been "wet and wild".

Good hunting.

P.S. - by the way, most of the higher end strip clubs (Angels, Aurora 911, Penthouse) have an African contingent so if you can't find one on Rusdosug that you like, you can always try there.

TwFunGuy
03-13-17, 08:50
Hi guys,

I am wondering which escort websites in Moscow can be trusted? I have been reading that most of the websites you find with that search word will be fake, or the girls photos are only for reference, or you will find that when they arrive they are older or more over weight, as prostitution in Russia is illegal any website that has a face will not be true. So I am wondering in your guys experience which sites will actually be legit and which ones actually have good looking ladies?

Thanks!

Goei1163
03-13-17, 17:20
Thank you Jake993, always a relay-able source when it comes to Moscow scene.

In Moscow from tomorrow so I will check it out!

Thanks.

Jake993
03-14-17, 06:36
Hi guys,
So I am wondering in your guys experience which sites will actually be legit and which ones actually have good looking ladies?

Thanks!Strictly speaking, they ALL have some degree of bait and switch. The ones you see on the back pages of Moscow Times are probably the worst. Not because they will send you an ugly girl but because the turnover is so frequent that it's tough to keep the website updated so the girl you choose on the web site could be long gone and will be replaced by one who looks similar. IMHO, the smaller sites are more reliable. Do you have any specific sites that you are suspicious of?

Goei1163
03-17-17, 17:09
As promised I report on the growing scene of African girls in Rusdosug. I managed to call on promising looking very young girl that appears on Rusdosug and made an appointment to come to my hotel near pavletskaya (Swiss Hotel). All went fine and she called me when she was there. We made an appointment for a few hours as her English was quite good on the phone and I was in for a little chat. We went to the Skyview restaurant in my hotel and what followed was of course a sad story that is behind a lot of these girls if you ask a little deeper. Normally I do not do that, but for some reason I did this time and it almost got me of the wish to have sex with her, I guess she was more or less honest, did not ask me for anything and a little hesitant to talk.

Anyway I managed to overcome that in the end and we went to my room for what became one of the best sex experiences of the past 5 year! Really passionate, GFE, PSE whatever a roller-coaster I would call it. Could have been the hour spend listening to her story, I believe it was part of it but also she I believe for a moment felt that she was not really working (at least that is what I tell myself).

Now being as experienced as I am, mongering for many many years all over the place, normally used to the German FKK scene, I can say I am spoiled and not easily pleased. I still remember the old days in Moscow, 15 years ago when even Nightflight was a great place, since that time I come to Moscow 4 to 5 times per year but this experience comes in my top 5 ever!

JamesKim86
03-17-17, 17:22
Just a quick question on the African ladies on Dosug, Any experience with these ladies? Can it be worth while or is it a rip off.

I am in good old Moscow next week and was thinking of trying.You know, I had experience with black girls in Moscow couple of times. I can't say there are really nice, they work not independently.

And they say they receive only 30-40%, respectively, they are not very interested in meetings, African lady in Moscow mostly don't like sex, black girls are lazy, and their service is very poor, only classic sex and oral in condom, despite the low cost and the attractive pictures, I do not recommend calling them.

Best Regards, JamesKim86.

KareteKid90
03-20-17, 07:56
Hey,

Is there anybody used this website: http://www.love-students.ru/ .

Are they showing real pictures? What about their quality?

Thanks.

JamesKim86
03-21-17, 02:11
Hey,

Is there anybody used this website: http://www.love-students.ru/ .

Are they showing real pictures? What about their quality?

Thanks.Hello!

As I said before I met Janna from this agency. Real girl but a lot of photoshop. And many photos from other sites, not real.

KareteKid90
03-26-17, 13:18
Hello!

As I said before I met Janna from this agency. Real girl but a lot of photoshop. And many photos from other sites, not real.Thank you for your reply.

I like to get your opinion (and other users), how can I get five star ladies? Which website is best for this purpose?

Thanks.

George 6969
03-26-17, 20:18
I am coming to Moscow for many years and I am a big fan of Nightflight, because it is the best and safest place after my opinion for non Russian speakers. In the recent months Nightflight was not so crowded as before and sometimes it is even a little bit boring. So my questions is. If I have missed any alternatives. A couple of years ago, there had been CF or Cabanas or similar places. I still will visit NF reguarly, but would appreciate any advice for an alternative, especially for the days during the week.

Nikola1
03-27-17, 16:48
Date & time of session: December 20th. 13:00.

Location: Vanilia Massage by Noviy Arbat street.

Name: Maya.

Nationality & Language: Russian Girl knows about 30 words in English.

Age: 20-21.

Face: 4/5.

Body: 5/5 Perfect body. 6 ft, athletic, with long legs, and a tits and ass to die for. Simply an angel from Heaven.

Skill: 5/5 Never been happier with a massage service.

Service: 10/10 Well I've heard about this place but whoa. The lineup was world class..Was also in this massage parlor recently, again came to Moscow for work. Natasha surprised me. And I also tried the new program "Aphrodite". Was pleasantly surprised and once again killed in that good and quality place. Links will not be left, because they have been blocked once, but it is not difficult to find it on the Internet. I advise!

JamesKim86
03-27-17, 22:23
Thank you for your reply.

I like to get your opinion (and other users), how can I get five star ladies? Which website is best for this purpose?

Thanks.I usually use rusdosug.com, they have a lot of ladies with different prices, in first 4-5 mostly speak English.

Ryan65
03-28-17, 03:25
Yes, many fakes, especially in Moscow. I found a funny site. Shows where the stolen photos. http://blacklistmoscow.escortbook.com.

Ryan65
03-28-17, 04:00
I usually use rusdosug.com, they have a lot of ladies with different prices, in first 4-5 mostly speak English.If verified photo rusdosug.com is better.

But from russia you can not get to the site with the normal browser. Better to use opera with VPN.

On rusdosug.com a lot of cheap girls.

I don't know how good they are, I read on another resource that in Moscow, a fine look escort girl with English, costs from min 8000 rubles -10.000 or more per hour incall / outcall.

I found on Rusdosug some girls from 150 $ -200 $. Possibly they are OK.

Some of them have good discount, half or more than first hour for second hour.

As for the agencies, most of them do not use real photos of girls. They even speak in English only a few phrases. Perhaps because English speaking girls do not stay in agencies for a long time. They go to work themselves, I somehow heard from girls that agencies take half from their earnings.

I think it's better to look for real independents, in my experience they are more interested and the service is better. Another question is that many agencies position photos of a girl as an independent.

Iceman2007
03-30-17, 15:24
Hi Members,

This is my first post after long long time. I am from India and will be visiting Moscow for official purpose in April first week and will be there for 5 days. I will be staying in Park Hotel, Fili Bolshaya. I have gone through Moscow thread and based on FR's have marked few profiles from rusdosug.com (Diana, tatya, tati), bright model agency website and Elena who has her own website. I have few doubts, can any of members help me out here.

1. Is park hotel Fili vistor friendly, like escort agrees, can I call her to my room for few hours. Anybody has any experience with this hotel. As I do not know local language to travel and due to shortage of free time, I thought safe option would be to call escort to my room in evening after 6 or 7 pm.

2. I tried to contact diana (https://www.rusdosug.com/indi197541.htm) but she blocked me on what's app and no reply to my email. My doubt, are these escorts reluctant to meet Indians. Any suggestions are welcome.

3. Saw many profiles in rusdosug.com and their servies offered. But there is no mention DFK. So does it mean are they open to DFK or it depends on escort. Coming from India DFK is very uncommon among escorts or working girls so posting this doubt to understand how it is in Moscow.

4. Coming to rate, what should be ideal rate I should be paying. I Don't want to end up paying very high price.

5. Any other suggestions I need to take care of are also welcome.

Thanks in advance for support.

Iceman.

Cheater564
04-01-17, 10:16
Hi Members,

This is my first post after long long time. I am from India and will be visiting Moscow for official purpose in April first week and will be there for 5 days. I will be staying in Park Hotel, Fili Bolshaya. I have gone through Moscow thread and based on FR's have marked few profiles from rusdosug.com (Diana, tatya, tati), bright model agency website and Elena who has her own website. I have few doubts, can any of members help me out here.

1. Is park hotel Fili vistor friendly, like escort agrees, can I call her to my room for few hours. Anybody has any experience with this hotel. As I do not know local language to travel and due to shortage of free time, I thought safe option would be to call escort to my room in evening after 6 or 7 pm.

2. I tried to contact diana (https://www.rusdosug.com/indi197541.htm) but she blocked me on what's app and no reply to my email..As I took already a lot of useful information from this community and I am right now in Moskau I decided to join and add some comments here.

I had an appointment with Diana the other night and can confirm that she is not willing to deal with Indian man. Seems she had some disappointing experience in the past. In any case in can not agree 100% to the reviews in this thread. For me she is a 6/10 and this rating I give only cause a good CIM finish. Gravity took already over control about her boobs, even though she is just 21. We had some discussion about blow job without condom, its included according to her add but she wanted 50 more for this service. Later she admitted not being in good mood because of her hairdresser. Anyway.

I can just warn about this lady:

http://moskva.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/outcall-2-hrs-100-night-200-7-926-143-46-00-whats-app-viber-24-7/2734438

You will find her on other platforms as well. She is fake, there must be an agency behind. They send me 4! Different girls to my room, I refused all of them as a matter of principle.

Last night I end up with Tanya:

https://www.rusdosug.com/indi27612.htm

Same valid for her in regards to Indians, she block them in what's up and mail.

She is a real mature lady, I do not believe any age with a 3 as a first digit. She passed the zenith off her carrier and she knows it. Very professional in a positive way. Perfect deep throat and CIM. Could have here without condom but I was not brave enough. Will repeat for sure, 9/10 (if you are open for mature lady's).

DFK is not popular at all. It doesn't matter where you go. Ether you are able to set up some chemistry to a lady and she is somehow really exited about you DFK is not going to happen.

Pricing: I would not estimate anything different than app. 200 for 2 hours unless you like cook sucking with condom and just average service.

Enjoy,

Cheater564.

Iceman2007
04-02-17, 15:32
As I took already a lot of useful information from this community and I am right now in Moskau I decided to join and add some comments here.

I had an appointment with Diana the other night and can confirm that she is not willing to deal with Indian man. Seems she had some disappointing experience in the past. In any case in can not agree 100% to the reviews in this thread. For me she is a 6/10 and this rating I give only cause a good CIM finish. Gravity took already over control about her boobs, even though she is just 21. We had some discussion about blow job without condom, its included according to her add but she wanted 50 more for this service. Later she admitted not being in good mood because of her hairdresser. Anyway.

I can just warn about this lady:

http://moskva.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/outcall-2-hrs-100-night-200-7-926-143-46-00-whats-app-viber-24-7/2734438

You will find her on other platforms as well. She is fake, there must be an agency behind. They send me 4! Different girls to my room, I refused all of them as a matter of principle.

Last night I end up with Tanya:

https://www.rusdosug.com/indi27612.htm

Same valid for her in regards to Indians, she block them in what's up and mail.

She is a real mature lady, I do not believe any age with a 3 as a first digit. She passed the zenith off her carrier and she knows it. Very professional in a positive way. Perfect deep throat and CIM. Could have here without condom but I was not brave enough. Will repeat for sure, 9/10 (if you are open for mature lady's).

DFK is not popular at all. It doesn't matter where you go. Ether you are able to set up some chemistry to a lady and she is somehow really exited about you DFK is not going to happen.

Pricing: I would not estimate anything different than app. 200 for 2 hours unless you like cook sucking with condom and just average service.

Enjoy,

Cheater564.Thanks for providing valuable information. Will keep in mind. Hopefully my time in moscow is going to be good.

ShiftTab
04-05-17, 03:47
I read some reviews about Hotel Cosmos on Prospect Mira near the VDNH metro station saying there are hookers working the lobby of the hotel in the evenings. Does anyone know if this is still the case? Are there any other hotels with working girls in the lobby?

I thought about going to some of these hotels and picking up a girl but don't know if they will leave with me to go back to my hotel.

Jake993
04-05-17, 10:16
I read some reviews about Hotel Cosmos on Prospect Mira near the VDNH metro station saying there are hookers working the lobby of the hotel in the evenings. Does anyone know if this is still the case? Are there any other hotels with working girls in the lobby?

I thought about going to some of these hotels and picking up a girl but don't know if they will leave with me to go back to my hotel.If there were any hotel in Moscow that had WG's working the lobby, it would be the Cosmos! Last time I was there I remember thinking that it was still being run in a very "Soviet" way.

The Korston Hotel still has girls working the lobby.

WingKing
04-05-17, 11:16
Thanks for providing valuable information. Will keep in mind. Hopefully my time in moscow is going to be good.Hi,

Please check your PM for information.

Thanks.

WingKing
04-05-17, 11:22
Yes, many fakes, especially in Moscow. I found a funny site. Shows where the stolen photos. http://blacklistmoscow.escortbook.com.Very true. I had called a Russian girl from rusdosug. But an African girl turned up at the hotel and had to send her back.

Eurojay
04-05-17, 12:41
Hey guys,

I will be visiting Moscow for the first time. And similar services have been used by myself in Ukraine, I am very satisfied with the short time style girls and Vanilla seems like the place to be. User Mng 23 mentioned this and I did some research. It looks right up my alley. Any suggestions? The prices seem standard $60-80 which I'm happy to pay. Are they safe? Easily located and Good to contact on phone or like some girls, just random phone answers!

If any other places such as this, I will appreciate it.

THanks.

Iceman2007
04-06-17, 05:43
Hi All,

Thanks to the forum and also to wingking for sharing useful information. Finally I was able to meet Diana (https://www.rusdosug.com/indi197541.htm). After communication over email, she unblocked me on what's app. So met her yesterday evening. She came to my hotel room on time and agreed price was 160 USD (9000 rubles) for couple of hours. My personal opinion is, she looks younger in real than in her photos. Nice tall lady, slim and clean body. Had a very good time with her. She agreed to give FK. Came in 2 times in 2 hours. She was ready for third time also, but johnny had lost the steam by then. She is very nice and professional. Hopefully if time permits I can meet her again. But going to leave on Sunday, so I think it is difficult. One word about hotel, it is girl freindly, she was able to come directly to my room. No issue faced whatsoever.

Based on my personal experience I can give her 9. 5/10. Coming from India, So I am rating her high, we rarely get these kind of girls there.

Iceman2007.

Cucumber
04-06-17, 20:03
If there were any hotel in Moscow that had WG's working the lobby, it would be the Cosmos! Last time I was there I remember thinking that it was still being run in a very "Soviet" way.

The Korston Hotel still has girls working the lobby.I have done a good bit of research on this topic over the past five years. In my experience Korston is by far the best option in Moscow for girls in the lobby. They are also very relaxed about bringing in your own girls. And breakfast lasts until 17:00. And wifi is fast. Caveat: must be a year since I was there last, but that is how it was then at least.

Cucumber.

Jarjarmissa
04-11-17, 08:56
Hi,

I made a short of places to be visited during my trip,. If any tips in order to recommend or not the places:

http://www.twilights.su/ is close to my place I will be visiting in first probably.

http://malvina-club.ru/services/

http://www.koroleva-club.ru

http://edem-club.ru/ I've been to this place several time. It's not luxury place like a FKK actually and girls are in average 5-7 but the service is amazing. They know their job and you are in heaven. I experienced a fake blowjob wow.

http://en.5massage.ru/contacts I watched amazing video in youtube, but it sounds too much perfect for being real.

Thank you for your advises.

Zag07
04-11-17, 19:46
Hi All,

Thanks to the forum and also to wingking for sharing useful information. Finally I was able to meet Diana (https://www.rusdosug.com/indi197541.htm). After communication over email, she unblocked me on what's app. So met her yesterday evening. She came to my hotel room on time and agreed price was 160 USD (9000 rubles) for couple of hours. My personal opinion is, she looks younger in real than in her photos. Nice tall lady, slim and clean body. Had a very good time with her. She agreed to give FK. Came in 2 times in 2 hours. She was ready for third time also, but johnny had lost the steam by then. She is very nice and professional. Hopefully if time permits I can meet her again. But going to leave on Sunday, so I think it is difficult. One word about hotel, it is girl freindly, she was able to come directly to my room. No issue faced whatsoever.

Based on my personal experience I can give her 9. 5/10. Coming from India, So I am rating her high, we rarely get these kind of girls there.

Iceman2007.Good FR Iceman2007. Glad to know you enjoyed with a lovely lady. The perception regards Indians arises act out of the action of a few sick perverts who don't know how to conduct oneself with a woman specially a foreigner, hopefully this changes. Cheers!

ShiftTab
04-18-17, 16:45
I found some listings for girls who spoke English on the site rusprostitute, and sent text messages to three of them. It turned out these weren't independent girls like some of the ads claimed but houses with several girls. The operators all spoke english and were easy to understand, and sent me addresses of where they were located. One was at Leninskiy Prospekt, andother at Bolshaya Dorogomilovskaya, and a third was on Studencheskaya. Since the one on Studenchenskaya was near a metro station and closest to my hotel, I decided to go there. I went to the address, which was a 24-hour store and called the operator, who sent out a woman to meet me and walk me to the apartment building.

In the apartment, there were several couches and I waited for 5 girls to come out, almost all were almost unfuckable. They looked tired, drug comatose, or just fat. The only one that spoke English was an African girl who had a slim body and big tits, so I ended up picking her since I couldn't speak to any of the other girls. Talking to Mya, their working conditions were pretty poor and the other girls were really tired from not sleeping the night before, which made several of them look like drug addicts coming off shot. Anyway, for 3000 rubles, I had an hour with covered BJ, missionary, and doggie. It was OK, since I was not really interested in African girls, but she was the only one who spoke English in the apartment. It turned out the girl pictured in the ad, Alsya, was from Uzbekistan and only spoke Russian and Uzbek. So much for accurate advertising. Maybe the information below would help others who will be visiting Moscow in the future.

964-793-3688 Studencheskaya street, a block from the Studencheskaya metro station. 3000 rubles for 1 hour.

916-810-6996 Leminskiy Prospekt, near the Prospekt Vernadskogo metro station. 3000 rubles for 1 hour.

985-394-5095 Bolshaya Dorogomilovskaya 7, near the Kievskaya metro station. 3500 rubles for 1 hour.

Gxaxruk
04-26-17, 14:44
Hi there comrades!

I'm local guy from Moscow. I know the scene pretty well. Girls, massage places and online booking services. I just wonder there is anyone around who really need a support of that kind? I know that it's s real struggle for foreigners to find a decent girl here, mostly because of language barrier and also it could be a really expensive if you do not know some tips. I speak English and a little bit Spanish, so I thought maybe I can provide some services for foreigner tourists or expats who doesn't speak Russian. For some money or for exclusive girl services. What do you think about it?

===============================================

Greetings,

Here's how to contact other forum members.

1. Buy a subscription.

2. Send them a Private Message.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Subscriptions

Thanks,

Jackson

WanderTheWorld
05-03-17, 17:47
Hello all,

I have been away from moscow for a while and I might have a chance to visit it again sometime soon. I have a couple of questions for those great heroes who have been informing us over the years.

1- Our trips were canceled last year due to Russia blocking Turkish Visas. I'm wondering if they treat Turks differently after all that shit went down. Would I be safe visiting strip clubs like Bordo because they ask for passports there? If anyone has any experience on this issue I'd appreciate comments about it.

2- I'll be doing my work on intimcity and I have read the forums regularly. I wish to get some girls that I like from the website via SMS-google translate-email combo. Hopefully this time it will work. I know about rusdosug but the content there is much less compared to intimcity. What I want to ask about is that if there are people that I can add as friends on intimcity so that I can read their comments about girls. I have added a couple of people over the years, but some are probably fake. It would really help if the community in ISG shared their accounts so we can add them and read their comments. I can share my account but since I got no reviews it is worthless. I can also list some people who seem real and their comments are helpful.

3- The girls I have added to my favorites last year mostly are not working anymore or their accounts have been cancelled. There were 100 that I picked but now there are 5 remaining. Would anyone be willing to help a brother out and call the girls and make a date for me as I have failed countless times trying to communicate with google translate. Maybe there is a service for this I don't really know. I have seen a couple people offering such services but I couldn't trust them. I thought of tipping the reception guys for this work but then they want a hefty price for the service or create more problems.

I'd appreciate any feedback.

Alexey1
05-10-17, 11:22
You can see and make your impression.

https://vimeo.com/213088727

Jarjarmissa
05-12-17, 22:16
So as I didn't get any advice, I rolled the dices and experienced:

- Vanilla en. 5 massage. Ru Amazing place with a LOT of girls available. I picked 2 for a 4 hands massage. They played a lot together and I also played a lot with them. Good experience with beautiful girls. Like the video recently posted. I recommend. Girls from 6 to 8.

- Edem. Already experienced last year, I decided to go there at 3 am. Bad idea. The line up is less interesting. From 4 to 6. I picked a girl for a 1 hour massage. I cannot complain as for 50 $ you can spend an hour with a girl, but as told, I do prefer Vanilla.

Enjoy Moscow guys. It is still even.


Hi,

I made a short of places to be visited during my trip,. If any tips in order to recommend or not the places:

http://www.twilights.su/ is close to my place I will be visiting in first probably.

http://malvina-club.ru/services/

http://www.koroleva-club.ru

http://edem-club.ru/ I've been to this place several time. It's not luxury place like a FKK actually and girls are in average 5-7 but the service is amazing. They know their job and you are in heaven. I experienced a fake blowjob wow.

http://en.5massage.ru/contacts I watched amazing video in youtube, but it sounds too much perfect for being real.

Thank you for your advises.

HighRevver
05-18-17, 18:24
So as I didn't get any advice, I rolled the dices and experienced:

- Vanilla en. 5 massage. Ru Amazing place with a LOT of girls available. I picked 2 for a 4 hands massage. They played a lot together and I also played a lot with them. Good experience with beautiful girls. Like the video recently posted. I recommend. Girls from 6 to 8.

- Edem. Already experienced last year, I decided to go there at 3 am. Bad idea. The line up is less interesting. From 4 to 6. I picked a girl for a 1 hour massage. I cannot complain as for 50 $ you can spend an hour with a girl, but as told, I do prefer Vanilla.

Enjoy Moscow guys. It is still even.How safe was it to get to Vanilla en .5? Well, let me put it this way, how safe was it all together?

Turgid
05-18-17, 18:38
I've checked out the independents on RusDosug and have noticed some really hot providers but they don't speak English. Is it at all possible for a non Russian speaker to session these babes?

ManWithBeard
05-19-17, 18:13
Hello Guys,

I recently moved to Moscow.

While browsing expat forums for useful information about living here, I found Moscow Expat Life and their classified ads for escorts:

http://www.moscowexpatlife.ru/classified-ads/browse-ads/39/escorts/

There are several ads dated this month, so presumably the advertisers are active.

I haven't tried this avenue and I doubt I will.

But it must be a near certainty that the advertisers speak English.

Good luck!

Jake993
05-21-17, 05:08
I've checked out the independents on RusDosug and have noticed some really hot providers but they don't speak English. Is it at all possible for a non Russian speaker to session these babes?In the upper right hand corner, you will see "RUS EN DE. These buttons mean "Russian English German".

If you click the EN for English, you will see providers who either speak english or have someone who can arrange an appointment in English.

Jake993
05-21-17, 05:11
Hello Guys,

I recently moved to Moscow.

While browsing expat forums for useful information about living here, I found Moscow Expat Life and their classified ads for escorts:

http://www.moscowexpatlife.ru/classified-ads/browse-ads/39/escorts/

There are several ads dated this month, so presumably the advertisers are active.

I haven't tried this avenue and I doubt I will.

But it must be a near certainty that the advertisers speak English.

Good luck!Yes, pretty good bet that girls advertising in an English language expat newspaper either speak English or have a way to communicate with you in English. Russian are quite enterprising. Welcome to Moscow. Hope you enjoy your stay.

ManWithBeard
05-21-17, 09:03
Yes, pretty good bet that girls advertising in an English language expat newspaper either speak English or have a way to communicate with you in English. Russian are quite enterprising. Welcome to Moscow. Hope you enjoy your stay.Thanks.

First time working in Russia.

Its taking me longer than usual to settle in.

I'm used to living in smaller cities, Bucharest, Sofia, Belgrade, etc.

Jarjarmissa
05-22-17, 23:44
How safe was it to get to Vanilla en .5? Well, let me put it this way, how safe was it all together?I never felt unsafe in this city. I am talking about 2 clubs that are located in the city center, therefore, clean and almost safe area.

If you don't feel confident in Moscow, then I recommend Vanilla. It is located at 20 meters from New Arbat, a large and modern avenue.

Hugod
05-29-17, 00:00
Hi guys,

I was in Moscow last August and if you want to find working girls you can go to a taxi driver and ask him to take you to a "tocka". These are areas where 5-10 girls are located next to the street. The price for the whole night is around 15000 rubles and if you are lucky you can find good girls. I also payed the taxi driver 1500 rubles for the ride. The taxi driver told me that in the last years tockas have deteriorated and in the past you had much bigger selection of girls. Hope I have helped.

Jake993
05-29-17, 09:30
Hi guys,

I was in Moscow last August and if you want to find working girls you can go to a taxi driver and ask him to take you to a "tocka". These are areas where 5-10 girls are located next to the street. The price for the whole night is around 15000 rubles and if you are lucky you can find good girls. I also payed the taxi driver 1500 rubles for the ride. The taxi driver told me that in the last years tockas have deteriorated and in the past you had much bigger selection of girls. Hope I have helped.Tochkas. How nostalgic. The first (and only) time I visited a Tochka was back 2006 when they were already in decline. Still, there were at least a dozen to chose from. All shapes, sizes and ethnicities. Oh, those were the days. Sigh.

MarquisdeSade1
05-30-17, 21:23
Can anyone say the best / cheapest way to exchange USD to rubles in Moscow?

YummyPL
05-31-17, 02:19
Can anyone say the best / cheapest way to exchange USD to rubles in Moscow?The best way is to get Rubles out of an ATM from any major bank. It is better than money exchanges.

After that, there are money exchanges all over the center of Moscow. The trick is to find one where the buy rate and sell rate are close but without an additional transaction fee. There are plenty, but place that charges a fee won't tell you until you are commited to the deal. If you speak Russian well you can ask them or read the fine print posted on the wall inside most of these places. Absolutely DO NOT use the exchanges at the airport.

MarquisdeSade1
05-31-17, 19:53
Trying to find hotel that won't break my budget.

Is Cosmos hotel "girl friendly" if I bring back girls from NF?

Jake993
06-01-17, 08:19
Trying to find hotel that won't break my budget.

Is Cosmos hotel "girl friendly" if I bring back girls from NF?MDS,

While Cosmos might be girl friendly, I am not sure any girl you pick up in NF will come back with you to Cosmos! Ha ha. Sorry, just kidding.

Seriously, I think you can do better closer in to the center. Have you checked rates these days at the Western chains? I guess it depends on your budget. And don't forget about Korston. Plenty of WG handing about the lobby!

I did a quick scan on booking.com and here's what I found;.

President Hotel - $103.

Sheraton - $160.

StandArt Hotel - $168.

Sovietsky - $77 (This is actually a cool historic hotel and IMHO is under rated).

Golden Ring - $132.

Peking Hotel - $79.

All of these hotels are girl friendly and are well located. Forget Cosmos.

MarquisdeSade1
06-01-17, 23:20
May I inquire about the dress codes at the main strip clubs and Nightflight.

Business casual, or will golf wear suffice.

MarquisdeSade1
06-03-17, 00:42
Do hotels have power outlet converters for laptops or do I need to bring my own?

YummyPL
06-03-17, 01:44
May I inquire about the dress codes at the main strip clubs and Nightflight.

Business casual, or will golf wear suffice.I've worn shorts into a couple strip clubs. It is actually nice because when they are dancing for you in the public area they rub up against your bare thighs.

I think you want to dress better than golf wear for Nightflight--at least business casual.

AntonySun1996
06-09-17, 20:58
Hi gents,

I'm interested in sponsoring a Russian girl for regular meetings but don't know how to find them. If anyone could share some ideas I would be grateful.

Thank you.

Jake993
06-11-17, 06:04
I've worn shorts into a couple strip clubs.Hey Yummy,

Have you worn shorts into a strip club in Moscow? Wow, I am surprised that Face Control let you in. Jeans are always fine but hearing that you got into one of the better Moscow strips clubs is unexpected!

Jake993
06-11-17, 06:34
Hi gents,

I'm interested in sponsoring a Russian girl for regular meetings but don't know how to find them. If anyone could share some ideas I would be grateful.

Thank you.Dear AS,

Here's a good place to start.

http://www.moscowexpatlife.ru/classified-ads/browse-ads/37/sponsorship/

While there are only a handful who specifically place their ads in "sponsorship", you can bet your ass that plenty of the girls who have ads under "escorts" would be delighted to discuss sponsorship with you.

Alternatively, Strip clubs are a good place to start. A lot of girls who work in the strip clubs are university students who are from the Russian "provinces". Since no one in Moscow (other than fellow students) know them, working in the strips club is a good way to earn money without the potential shame. They all need money so if you can offer them an alternative form of income supplement, I am sure they would be happy to discuss an arrangement with you.

I speak from first hand experience on this. I met Svetlana at one of these clubs back in 2009. She was a dental student at the time doing about 3 shifts a week at one of the more popular clubs. She danced for me several time and we got to chatting. After 2 or 3 visits, it was clear that we had a connection. She confided that she was short on money and that taking on additional shifts at the club were going to cut into her studies. Since I was traveling regularly to Moscow, I suggested that I would pay her $600 per month for the next 4 months is she would "spend time" with me when I was in town. It was a great arrangement. She was fun and intelligent with a smoking body. She would come to my hotel or serviced apartment at least a few nights a week when I was in town. Sometimes, she would show up at 7:00 AM after having worked the night shift a the strip club. I would let her sleep while I went off to meetings and when I would return in the afternoon she was ready to fuck like a rabbit. Oh those were the days.

YummyPL
06-11-17, 14:14
Hey Yummy,

Have you worn shorts into a strip club in Moscow? Wow, I am surprised that Face Control let you in. Jeans are always fine but hearing that you got into one of the better Moscow strips clubs is unexpected!Jake,

Hey Jake. I know for sure I did at Penthouse on New Arbat. I am pretty sure I did at least one other. I've never been to a club when it was crowded. I also don't really like strip clubs so I wasn't really trying.

Peter1971
06-12-17, 08:02
I am planning a visit to Moscow in the near future. I was hoping to get a few answers. I used to be an active member on ISG before. Been lying low for a while.

1. Been trolling Mamba. Have had luck but the asking price is ridiculous at times. $1000 for full night. The best I have found so far is 30,000 rubles for 24 hrs.

2. Have used Mamba before in Kiev and Prague with good results and very reasonable price.

3. I am looking for high end salons. I am sure there must be real good ones in Moscow. I would really appreciate if someone can guide me to them.

4 rusdosug and other websites what you see and what you get is two different things as I understand. It's the same the world around.

5 there is nothing like the FKK in Moscow.

6. Would anyone suggest any high end salons that you can spend quality time with. Looking for threesome with beautiful busty girls. Preferably if they have themed sex suites.

Thank you.

Peter.

Jake993
06-13-17, 09:21
I am planning a visit to Moscow in the near future. I was hoping to get a few answers. I used to be an active member on ISG before. Been lying low for a while.

1. Been trolling Mamba. Have had luck but the asking price is ridiculous at times. $1000 for full night. The best I have found so far is 30,000 rubles for 24 hrs.

2. Have used Mamba before in Kiev and Prague with good results and very reasonable price.

3. I am looking for high end salons. I am sure there must be real good ones in Moscow. I would really appreciate if someone can guide me to them.

4 rusdosug and other websites what you see and what you get is two different things as I understand. It's the same the world around.

5 there is nothing like the FKK in Moscow.

6. Would anyone suggest any high end salons that you can spend quality time with. Looking for threesome with beautiful busty girls. Preferably if they have themed sex suites.

Thank you.

Peter.1. IMHO, Mamba is passe in Moscow. Waste of time. Frequented mostly by barracudas.

2. Good to know.

3. The salon scene is not that same as in Saint Petersburg. It's more massage oriented. You can see a complete listing on Rusdosug.

4 Agreed.

5 Boy, I wish there WAS FKK in Moscow. That would be like heaven.

6. There are a handful of high-end salons in Moscow. http://charmel.info/ and www.fantasys.org.

You're welcome.

WanderTheWorld
06-13-17, 21:46
6. There are a handful of high-end salons in Moscow. http://charmel.info/ and www.fantasys.org.

You're welcome.Hi Jake,

Fantasys web site is not working, I have vpn and tried several countries to no avail. Do you still use them, if so can you share their phone number?

I have made it to charmel. I called them when I got to the place mentioned on the web site and they spoke english very well. The woman on the phone asked my name and told me to wait. I wasn't actually expecting them to speak english, that surprised me. A guy came along -well dressed and pretty normal. I told him I was hungry and he told me I can just eat in the bar next to their place which was a good english or Irish pub I think. I called him in half an hour and he took me to the apartment.

They got me into a room which was well designed but nothing spectacular. In a minute 6-7 girls came into the room and one was to my liking, I give her 9 and the others were good as well. Mostly 7-8 I'd say. There was also another I liked but I had to pick one and I went with the blonde of course. Got a towel went to shower, paid the money for 1 hour 6000 rubles. 1 Hour went by fast, with google translate, I had fun.

I'd definitely recommend this place but I'm not sure if this is high end. They send to hotels but first you have to build trust with them. I have no idea how long that takes but I'll report in the future if they send to hotel.

WTW.

Jake993
06-14-17, 07:16
Hi Jake,

Fantasys web site is not working, I have vpn and tried several countries to no avail. Do you still use them, if so can you share their phone number?

I have made it to charmel. I called them when I got to the place mentioned on the web site and they spoke english very well. The woman on the phone asked my name and told me to wait. I wasn't actually expecting them to speak english, that surprised me. A guy came along -well dressed and pretty normal. I told him I was hungry and he told me I can just eat in the bar next to their place which was a good english or Irish pub I think. I called him in half an hour and he took me to the apartment.

They got me into a room which was well designed but nothing spectacular. In a minute 6-7 girls came into the room and one was to my liking, I give her 9 and the others were good as well. Mostly 7-8 I'd say. There was also another I liked but I had to pick one and I went with the blonde of course. Got a towel went to shower, paid the money for 1 hour 6000 rubles. 1 Hour went by fast, with google translate, I had fun.

I'd definitely recommend this place but I'm not sure if this is high end. They send to hotels but first you have to build trust with them. I have no idea how long that takes but I'll report in the future if they send to hotel.

WTW.WTW,

Thanks for the report.

Sadly, Fantasys seems to have gone dark. There used to be 3 in their group. Charmel, Fantasys and Atel which dropped off the map about 5 years ago as I recall. Bummer.

I must confess that it has been several years since I frequented either establishment so it is nice to see an update. Also nice to hear that the format has not changed! Judging from what how much information they actually gave on their updated web site, they must be hurting. There was a time where all you would get was the phone number. And when you called, if you tried to speak English with them, all you heard was a "click". Sounds like they have become a lot more "English Friendly".

The thing about "high end" in Moscow is that it's mostly by referral. I have heard about some places that sound more like what you seek, but it's word of mouth and mostly Russia to Russian. And it's expensive.

Thanks again for the update!!

AntonySun1996
06-15-17, 19:59
Thank you for your information! I really appreciate it.

Also thank you for sharing your own experiences, they are really interesting to me.

Last time when I was in Moscow I called an escort from the internet called Katya, who is a student and work as independent. She was really nice and friendly to me and satisfied almost all my expectations. Now I'm back in Russia and have texted her again and she promised to meet me again. This time I will discuss the sponsorship thing with her.


Dear AS,

Here's a good place to start.

http://www.moscowexpatlife.ru/classified-ads/browse-ads/37/sponsorship/

While there are only a handful who specifically place their ads in "sponsorship", you can bet your ass that plenty of the girls who have ads under "escorts" would be delighted to discuss sponsorship with you.

Alternatively, Strip clubs are a good place to start. A lot of girls who work in the strip clubs are university students who are from the Russian "provinces". Since no one in Moscow (other than fellow students) know them, working in the strips club is a good way to earn money without the potential shame. They all need money so if you can offer them an alternative form of income supplement, I am sure they would be happy to discuss an arrangement with you.

I speak from first hand experience on this. I met Svetlana at one of these clubs back in 2009. She was a dental student at the time doing about 3 shifts a week at one of the more popular clubs. She danced for me several time and we got to chatting..

Peter1971
06-17-17, 08:57
Thank you.

Jake and WTW.

Another question. Rusdosug.com. Been trying to log on with VPN from China. (routing through Las Vegas) Does not work at all. It worked fine when I logged on from the USA. Can't seem to figure out why.

Any suggestions.

Peter1971
06-17-17, 09:11
1. IMHO, Mamba is passe in Moscow. Waste of time. Frequented mostly by barracudas.

2. Good to know.

3. The salon scene is not that same as in Saint Petersburg. It's more massage oriented. You can see a complete listing on Rusdosug.

4 Agreed.

5 Boy, I wish there WAS FKK in Moscow. That would be like heaven.

6. There are a handful of high-end salons in Moscow. http://charmel.info/ and www.fantasys.org.

You're welcome.Thank you for the info.

I was going over my contacts in Kiev from 2 years back on mamba.

$70 + $70 for threesome for 3 hours. I still keep in touch with them.

Sponsored a beautiful blonde for $500 a month.

All the above on mamba.

Great times.

I don't want to start a discussion about Kiev vs Moscow.

It apples ve pears. Comes down to preference I think Russian girls have bigger ass and boobs.

Russia is uncharted territory for me. Would a winter vacation vs fall vacation be better. It would be cold but would there be better availability and less demand so better pricing?

Thanks.

AntonySun1996
06-17-17, 17:47
What if the girls on the websites don't answer your calls and messages? In my experience most of them don't. Any ideas?

Jake993
06-18-17, 06:51
I don't want to start a discussion about Kiev vs Moscow.

It apples ve pears. Comes down to preference I think Russian girls have bigger ass and boobs.

.Interesting observation. I think a lot of people would argue the exact opposite.

Having said that, Russia has well over 100 different ethic groups ranging from very slender Nordic to very "full figured" Slavic girls. By contrast, Ukraine has about 12. So any comparison would have to be quite subjective.

Jake993
06-18-17, 06:54
What if the girls on the websites don't answer your calls and messages? In my experience most of them don't. Any ideas?Can you be more specific? Which websites are you referring to? I guess like in all things, there are more reliable web sites and less reliable web sites. If they don't answer you, I guess there's not much you can do.

WanderTheWorld
06-21-17, 00:24
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1218-Escort-Classified-Ads&p=2048359&viewfull=1#post2048359

Called the lady in this post. We agreed for 2 hours for 10.000 rubles. Came to me in like 40 minutes. Ask for her photos via viber and she will send you some, the ones on the site are fake. However the photos seem to be from a couple of years earlier. She gave me my first massage with oil, it was nice but I can't compare it with anything else. After massage and a quick sex session she left. I didn't force her to stay however she is real for a quickie and she responds fast. She said she was 28 years old. She does good oral sex with condom, active in sex but since it was short for me, take it with a grain of salt.

WanderTheWorld
06-21-17, 01:02
I'm making a detailed post as a how to guide in Moscow alone, hunting girls in intimcity. NL and other such sites. Ones I'm looking for are independents. I think I have wasted on this subject countless hours and SMS + phone calls. So read it before you delve further you non Russian speakers.

It is extremely hard to find them even when you are speaking Russian. When you find something golden it is either well known there are shitload of people in the line so the girl cannot respond or she is not well known that you are left wandering whether she is real. So it comes to perseverance and good method to find these girls.

1- Download 2 apps, viber and yandextranslate to your phone. I fucking hope you have whatsapp already. But since I use it for my normal life, it is not my preferred method of contact. When you want to translate something in anywhere yandex popsup to automatically translate the copied text in android phones. I have no clue about iphone. (Someone please try it and report back).

2- Download google chrome to your LAPTOP. When you go to intimcity. NL you will see it popsup auto translate for you. Select it and make it default. Make an account and start searching through parameters section. Especially use the dropdown menu with updates of profiles for the last week.

3- Now we are in the process of searching for girls you may like. Search them in categories and spend once a week to find them to add them to your list. If you can contact them before coming to Russia that is great. The key to to finding independents is their viber and whatsapp and even telegram accounts are used by them. Once you have added the girl's phone number to your phone it will popup in those applications. And they use several of their pictures from even their daily life in there so you can see and check whether they are real. Most of them use different photos from daily life in different applications. I have found 2 girls like that and they all reply at some point and make arrangements to meet in the future. Most of them respond really fast like in seconds.

4- Ask them if they know english, most likely they won't, start translating with your phone. Write what you want to say in simple terms in your language, then copy all sentence. In android phones a popup will appear for auto translate. Copy the translation and replace the sentence.

5- Do not send them SMS, noone replied to my SMS and only to my Viber, whatsapp and very rarely to telegram. Even with google translate they never responded.

6- Google translate and yandex translate both have speech translation, I use them for talking to girls when they come to the room and they use it to communicate back. You don't have to write anything down, just speak and it is much faster than using the small keypad on the phone.

Happy hunting, I will update if anything else comes up.

Privacy Tip: Do not use Uber for going to their place as you cannot delete the history of Uber.

Xfreak0000
06-23-17, 16:00
Hello?

I am going to Moscow 1st time in my life and based on my research I am planning to do these actions for 2 nights.

Hotel.

- Will stay at Peking hotel.

Strip clubs.

- Penthouse strip club on New Arbat Ave, 21, Moskva, 119019.

- Virgin club on Leningradskiy pr. , 37к6, Moskva, 125167.

- Bordo club on Pevcheskiy per. , 4, Moskva, 109028.

Massage.

- Vanilla massage.

Dinings.

- Buddha Bar Moscow on Tsvetnoy Blvd, 2, Moskva, 127051.

- Nobu rest. On Bolshaya Dmitrovka Street, 20.

- Ribi Net streak at St. Regis Hotel on Nikolskaya 12/1.

- Pushkin restaurant (for Russian foods) Tverskoy blvd. 26-A.

Freelancers pickup.

- Korston hotel lobby girls.

- Cosmos hotel lobby girls.

Questions please;.

- Any advice on my agenda?

- What menu should I take and how much is it at Vanilla massage to have a sex?

- What time is the best time to go to the hotels to pickup lobby girls?

- Is there any disco / clubs where I can pick up young, pretty and slim freelancers?

- Burlesque clubs is worth visiting? Or is this just another strip club? https://bur-club.ru/english/.

Alex7J
06-23-17, 16:44
Can you be more specific? Which websites are you referring to? I guess like in all things, there are more reliable web sites and less reliable web sites. If they don't answer you, I guess there's not much you can do.Hey Jake,

Will be in your land of mother Russia for 2 quick nights this Monday and Tuesday, so where we go for club pickups except Night flight any other hot night clubs where it will be fun music and nice pussy.

Cheers mate.

Peace,

Alex.

Jake993
06-28-17, 05:19
Hey Jake,

Will be in your land of mother Russia for 2 quick nights this Monday and Tuesday, so where we go for club pickups except Night flight any other hot night clubs where it will be fun music and nice pussy.

Cheers mate.

Peace,

Alex.Hi Alex,

I am so sorry. I was offline for several days.

Hope you made out ok in Moskva!

Cheers,

Jake.

Alex7J
06-29-17, 19:50
Hi Alex,

I am so sorry. I was offline for several days.

Hope you made out ok in Moskva!

Cheers,

Jake.Hey Jake,

Still here mate, went to Night Flight on the first night and it was sad and disappointing at the bottom bar, worse than I could imagine dark dingy and ugly women I don't know how is the scene up in the restaurant will go in a while to check it out.

Went to this place called Baga bar with the Russian Blonde who was with me in Dubai for 2 months and its an amazing nice place huge it is, Indian themed bar nice music nice people cool drinks and open late till 6 am no pickups there but normal couples and single women in groups after the clubs close come here for there share of drinks.

Again went yesterday with 2 women one was Russian and one her friend nice slim 32 yr old lady but looks 22 she made me super horny fucking horny while we were having drinks at the table and then I could not resist here and took here to the Men's WR and we started making out and then BBBJ and then I was inside her in doggy super tight and juicy she was 2 or maybe 3 minutes we are in the action my hand on her mouth so she does not scream and Bang the bathroom door opens and police was there, I had my balls in my mouth but the lady was quiet and calm and we quietly walked back to the table he shouted at me in Russian and in the end I made a sad face and said I don't speak Russian he said pay bill and leave. That was the most humble police officer I have seen in my life and the most memorable night of my life in the past few years worth mentioning and thanking how I was saved from a shitty situation. There is no control on a hard dick and wet pussy. Suka Bleat.

Mate guide me on some nice pick up places clubs bars, I am in the downtown next to Red Square so something crazy where have hot women I need your assistance and quickly buddy last 2 nights.

Cheers and peace.

Alex.

Putologist
06-30-17, 08:12
I'm making a detailed post ...Thank you very much for this informative report. From my experience I pretty much agree with your detailed roadmap. It will help a lot of newcomers.

SanGaetano
06-30-17, 08:40
Hey Jake,

and Bang the bathroom door opens and police was there, I had my balls in my mouth but the lady was quiet and calm and we quietly walked back to the table he shouted at me in Russian and in the end I made a sad face and said I don't speak Russian he said pay bill and leave. That was the most humble police officer I have seen in my life and the most memorable night of my life in the past few years worth mentioning and thanking how I was saved from a shitty situation. There is no control on a hard dick and wet pussy. Suka Bleat..Wow, what a night. In principle it is not illegal to bang in WCs. I did it myself while here in Russia. And Police don't usually raid bars (drinking alcohol is a part of the ruskaya dusha). It sounds more like the local Oxrana, or security man understood from outside- remember: they have smallest cameras everywhere specially in upscale restaurants- what you were trying to do in there and went to stop you. I don't think he personally would have a problem with that, but maybe he was concerned about other guests feeling disturbed by it. Many of such security guys like to wear dark blue (like the Russian police BTW) , and because of that some foreigners could think that they are cops themselves. But you did the right thing by respecting him because he has the responsibility for the order inside the place anyways.

Now something different. I had a girl on tinder 1 year ago. We met 2 times. The 3rd date was a lay. She is not a hooker, well lets put this way, she was not a hooker by then, I only paid for a coffee (1st date) and a dinner (2nd date), and the bang was free on the 3rd meeting. Now, one of my friend found her on tinder but surprisingly she is now asking for present in order to meet him (there is not even a guarantee for a bang). I told him to stay away from such deals. He doesn't know yet that I did her last year, it also does not matter for now. Should I tell him abut her / expose her to him?! Her name is Alla. She is slim, has blue eyes brown hair. Her English is average, she is friendly. They had a very long chat on tinder before they moved to whatsapp, and only on whatsapp she started to talk like a semi-pro.

I told him that "padarok" is a very relative thing. It can happens that he brings her a single cheap rose and she is very happy, ready to fuck right there or, in another extreme, he can bring her a 10 k perfume and she will be unimpressed. So everything is relative when we are talking about gifts. My suggestion was to break it down to money and just ask her how much she wants. This would make some things clear for both sides.

I've seen that a shift is going on in tinder for a while now from freebies who are looking the "serious" mr. Right to freelancers who finally got real, understood that the clock is ticking and now became freelancers who are open to Mr. Right now with ca $h or at least a pre$ent. What do you guys think?

WanderTheWorld
06-30-17, 11:10
Thank you very much for this informative report. From my experience I pretty much agree with your detailed roadmap. It will help a lot of newcomers.Here is my account and verifieds in Moscow. https://www.intimcity.nl/user_info.php?id=107809.

Milana is superb and 25 years old petite girl.

Kristina is the one I preferred because I'm into anal. However be warned she acts dull, just lies on the bed, has a belly, really bad at oral sex. Her anal is extremely satisfying though. That's why I called her 2 times + cheaper than others.

Alex7J
07-01-17, 04:35
This is the club which has pussy super hot and sexy why no one write on the forum about it I have no clue, but 2 women took me from night flight to Oblaka man o man it is a sexy place and super hot women some normal but most of them WG but you need to speak Russian to woo them not like this.

I have not seen pussy better than this in Moscow, night flight was shit in front of Oblaka but they say it does not open every night just on Thursday to Sunday so what do we do on a Monday when we are horny in Moscow, someone guide me on something about Moscow.

There has to be some other places where we find good pussy in Moscow a bit different and hot and horny.

Cheers and peace.

Alex.

Jake993
07-02-17, 06:44
This is the club which has pussy super hot and sexy why no one write on the forum about it I have no clue, but 2 women took me from night flight to Oblaka man o man it is a sexy place and super hot women some normal but most of them WG but you need to speak Russian to woo them not like this.

I have not seen pussy better than this in Moscow, night flight was shit in front of Oblaka but they say it does not open every night just on Thursday to Sunday so what do we do on a Monday when we are horny in Moscow, someone guide me on something about Moscow.

There has to be some other places where we find good pussy in Moscow a bit different and hot and horny.

Cheers and peace.

Alex.Hi Alex,

Sorry again. Been offline for a few days.

Yes, sadly Night Flight is shit these days. Especially in summer. Girls are either off to the country house. The really good ones have gone to Ibiza.

Oblaka (clouds in Russian)! Excellent that you found it. It's only good in summer. Another great bar is Strelka Bar which is near Christ the Savior Cathedral. http://www.strelka.com/en/bar.

Don't let the School of Design and Architecture fool you. They have a great outdoor rooftop bar with very hot chicks in summer.

Another great place in the same are is Bar Gypsy http://www.bargipsy.ru/ Very strict Face Control but you can probably get in. There are several great bars in the same area on the Island near the old chocolate factory.

No far away is a place called Soho Rooms http://sohorooms.com/en/. This place might be up your alley. A little bit dated but high end. Very nice pussy there on weekends.

Good luck and enjoy!!

Jake993
07-02-17, 10:58
Hi Alex,

Sorry again. Been offline for a few days.

Yes, sadly Night Flight is shit these days. Especially in summer. Girls are either off to the country house. The really good ones have gone to Ibiza.

Oblaka (clouds in Russian)! Excellent that you found it. It's only good in summer. Another great bar is Strelka Bar which is near Christ the Savior Cathedral. http://www.strelka.com/en/bar.

Don't let the School of Design and Architecture fool you. They have a great outdoor rooftop bar with very hot chicks in summer.

Another great place in the same are is Bar Gypsy http://www.bargipsy.ru/ Very strict Face Control but you can probably get in. There are several great bars in the same area on the Island near the old chocolate factory.

No far away is a place called Soho Rooms http://sohorooms.com/en/. This place might be up your alley. A little bit dated but high end. Very nice pussy there on weekends.

Good luck and enjoy!!NEWS FLASH. After having consulted with the "experts", the most popular, most fashionable place for hot pussy in Moscow is now "Siberia Restaurant" located on Bolshaya Nikitskaya, 58 http://eng.siberiamoscow.ru/. But be warned, there will be Face Control and it will be expensive. So for you Alex, no problem!

Xfreak0000
07-04-17, 02:57
NEWS FLASH. After having consulted with the "experts", the most popular, most fashionable place for hot pussy in Moscow is now "Siberia Restaurant" located on Bolshaya Nikitskaya, 58 http://eng.siberiamoscow.ru/. But be warned, there will be Face Control and it will be expensive. So for you Alex, no problem!So, can you tell us how much would it be for S / T and L / T?

HighRevver
07-07-17, 06:07
I never felt unsafe in this city. I am talking about 2 clubs that are located in the city center, therefore, clean and almost safe area.

If you don't feel confident in Moscow, then I recommend Vanilla. It is located at 20 meters from New Arbat, a large and modern avenue.Thanks, I went and had a blast but it was pretty expensive and I'm looking for a fuller experience. Trying my hand using a couple of the sites so well see.

Jake993
07-10-17, 06:15
So, can you tell us how much would it be for S / T and L / T?These are normal girls, not hookers.

Chilaxin
07-12-17, 09:01
Finally got the chance to visit Moscow. It is a tough city. I travel extensively around the world and can pretty much assimilate to any country or culture pretty quick, Moscow was on the harder side. The language is a problem of course, traffic is insane and construction everywhere due to the world cup next year does not help. Having said all of that, I still had a great time with all the girls that I met.

I started browsing Mamba and Tinder a couple of weeks before I got there. I was surprised with the amount of matches I got on Tinder, well above the average. I went on a couple of dates and I had to cancel a few because I just had no time. There was a real pretty one that was supposed to meet me for dinner my last night which I just straight up cancelled because I was all sexed out.

Tinder.

I went on 2 dates from matches on Tinder. The first one was just full of herself, claiming to be "not one of those girls" but then asking for a "gift" I noticed most of the "normal girls" immediately asked for gifts to meet for dinner. They try to act all coy but we know what they are about. Anyway, first date pissed me off, we had dinner and I excused myself. This was the first night, I was tired so I just went back to my hotel and went to bed to get ready for my early meeting the next day.

I met another girl on my 3rd night. She was great. Very pretty, well-traveled and spoke decent English. At dinner the usual "No, I can't come back to your room the first night blah blah. After a little convincing (very little) she agreed to come back to my room at the Sheraton to watch a movie. Well you know how that ended up, she stayed over and we had round 2 and 3 in the morning before she left. She wanted to see me again, but I still had not hit up any night clubs and I was not going to miss this chance.

Mamba.

I talked to a lot of girls on Mamba. I arranged a bunch of dates with normal looking girls and appointments with the pros. What I can safely say is there are no normal girls on Mamba. The pro's are also all a bunch of BS. The pics are fake and its normally an agency you are talking to. I invited one of the girls over, when she showed up and I met her in the lobby, she clearly was a different person so I sent her back. I talked to the agency after and I told them "I can be your best customer, don't waste my time and I am ready to pay even a little extra" Russians are just not entrepreneurs, common sense does not apply from what I saw. The chick on the phone just didn't want to entertain me and I gave up.

I met this beautiful 22-year-old on Mamba though, she was real. I ended up seeing her another time because she was so hot and had an amazing body. The damage was only $100. She works for a law firm and is a semi-pro. I will fly her out on one of my meetings around Europe to join me for 2 days. She is a keeper. Other than that, and unless you are lucky, Mamba is a waste of time. I would still try my luck though if I were you.

Strip Clubs.

I did a lot of research on this forum before going. The information (if you look for it) is all on here. I didn't PM anyone or ask anyone a question and I got through just fine, just by reading the posts, as far back as a year.

First strip club was The Loft. Great place, hot women, I got a private dance from these 2 lesbians and it was amazing. I didn't stick around too much so I didn't see the "Boom Boom" rooms. I later went to Night Flight. Man, that was a disappointment, the girls had past their prime, they started with USD 500 to go back with me?? I looked at them and laughed, it pissed me off though so I had one drink and left to Aurora. It was almost 1 am by then and the lineup was not the best. Got talking to a guy at the bar and he told me that most girls had left or were occupied. I did find one that I couldn't pass up. Paid my 6000 for the room and my 10,000 to the girl and had a good time.

My last night I went to Penthouse. The girl selection was the best IMO. Had a few lap dances and I took this hot, heavily tattooed girl to the hotel next door. Again, the damage was 16,000 rubles and she was a firecracker. I took a shower and when I got into the room she immediately dropped to her knees and gave me a great BBBJ before going into the shower herself. What followed was a great session with all positions. Finished up and left the club hoping to return one day.

I didn't get a chance to try Vanilla massage with all the fun I was having. This must be left for another trip I suppose.

All in all, Moscow was a success. All the information that anyone needs is on this forum so stop asking stupid questions and read some posts. Thanks to all the contributors and be safe out there.

TravelBoy27
07-12-17, 10:07
I just did read Chilaxin report.

He did have a good experience with a Mamba (Wamba) girl.

In the past members did put links from nice girls on this forum but I don't see them the last half year.

As I will be travelling to Moscow in the near future, does anybody want to put some good links from Mamba or Wamba girls on this forum?

Chilaxin, would you like to share your good experience with us?

Thanks in advance.

Xfreak0000
07-13-17, 17:17
Has anyone tried any of the below massage salons? If yes do they provide sex?

- Massage salon Dolce Vita.

- Eroticheskiy Massazh 7*7.

One more question is where is Vanila massage? I googled it but no result as well as searching in this forum, but no location information.

Chilaxin
07-14-17, 07:26
I just did read Chilaxin report.

Chilaxin, would you like to share your good experience with us?

Thanks in advance.Well this goes against everything I just wrote on my post about reading the forum and gathering information.

I would however still post the link for you if I had it. When I left Moscow I deleted my Mamba profile also. I don't see a point in keeping all the contacts and back and forth messages from random girls who most probably won't be around if and when I go back. The ones who are real are the ones who blur their pictures and you have to ask for permission to view their photos. You can tell they are not hardened pros and you have a chance to make some sort of connection with those girls.

Good luck!

CumerBareback
07-14-17, 08:59
Since some of you asked, I will post from time to time my recent Mamba girls here. The first one is Kirstina, 25 years old. She asked for 15000 Rub and I offered her 20.000 Rub for the night incl. Bareback with cum inside. She is a nice girl and was a bit hesitating since she in not on pills. If you ask nicely and treat her well, I don't think it is a problem. If you like unprotected sex, she is the right one for you. Enjoy.

https://wamba.com/mb905398386?sp=1

Belvaros
07-21-17, 08:34
Sorry to post it here. I RTFF.

Anyone recommend a real estate site for Moscow rentals?

I prefer long term in a central location. PM me or respond with links.

I have looked at quite a few sites but meh.

Grazie.

YummyPL
07-22-17, 00:24
Sorry to post it here. I RTFF.

Anyone recommend a real estate site for Moscow rentals?

I prefer long term in a central location. PM me or respond with links.

I have looked at quite a few sites but meh.

Grazie.https://www.avito.ru/moskva/kvartiry

https://www.cian.ru/

Cucumber
07-23-17, 04:37
Has anyone tried any of the below massage salons? If yes do they provide sex?
- Massage salon Dolce Vita.
- Eroticheskiy Massazh 7*7.
One more question is where is Vanila massage? I googled it but no result as well as searching in this forum, but no location information.You may have made a major discovery! A couple of years ago there was a salon called Dolce Vita. It was one of the few (the only?) remaining reasonably priced interesting places for p4 p in Moscow (not just massage, a real brothel). It was little rough around the edges, but big selection of girls and a lot going on. Then suddenly it was closed. So the question is whether it has reappeared or whether someone has just borrowed the name. The pics I see here indicate that the new one is a proper salon (brothel), not just massage https://yandex.ru/maps/org/salon_eroticheskogo_massazha_dolce_vita/1022614296 .

7*7 I have never heard of before, but their site looks promising http://7x7-massage.ru/girls/.

Could you post some more info about the places so that we are sure we are talking about the same places?

Belvaros
07-24-17, 10:03
https://www.avito.ru/moskva/kvartiry

https://www.cian.ru/Gracie. Much appreciated.

GameChanger
07-26-17, 10:40
Hi,

I'm from Canada and I'm going to Moscow tomorrow with my family for three days so I can't bring a girl to my hotel room. I want to have sex (not handjob or blow job or anything else; complete sex) what I can do? Please help.

Jake993
07-27-17, 05:51
Hi,

I'm from Canada and I'm going to Moscow tomorrow with my family for three days so I can't bring a girl to my hotel room. I want to have sex (not handjob or blow job or anything else; complete sex) what I can do? Please help.Normally, I would tell you to RTFF. But since you're on a short time line and you're Canadian, I will make an exception. I am going to go out on a limb here and assume you don't speak Russian. If not, your best bet for on-site sex is one of the top tier strip clubs. Penthouse, The Loft, Aurora 911 or Angels. These clubs all have private rooms (suites) for sex and can accommodate your wishes.

http://clubangels.ru/

http://penthouseclubmoscow.com/page/enter

http://loftclub.ru/index.php?lang=en

http://www.club-aurora.ru/

Aurora has very few rooms so you might be taking your chances on availability. However, the other three have plenty of rooms. Just pay your entrance fee. Go to the bar or get a seat and wait for the girls to come to you. If you see one you like, ask her "Sex is possible?" (sex mozhna?) and she will tell you what's what.

Enjoy.

Xfreak0000
07-30-17, 04:51
Normally, I would tell you to RTFF. But since you're on a short time line and you're Canadian, I will make an exception. I am going to go out on a limb here and assume you don't speak Russian. If not, your best bet for on-site sex is one of the top tier strip clubs. Penthouse, The Loft, Aurora 911 or Angels. These clubs all have private rooms (suites) for sex and can accommodate your wishes.

http://clubangels.ru/

http://penthouseclubmoscow.com/page/enter

http://loftclub.ru/index.php?lang=en

http://www.club-aurora.ru/

Aurora has very few rooms so you might be taking your chances on availability. However, the other three have plenty of rooms. Just pay your entrance fee. Go to the bar or get a seat and wait for the girls to come to you. If you see one you like, ask her "Sex is possible?" (sex mozhna?) and she will tell you what's what.

Enjoy.Hello Jake,

Can you please tell us how much would be expected?

Xfreak0000
07-30-17, 05:09
Hello?

Here is my brief reports of 2 nights in Moscow.

Peking Hotel:

- good location, not best though. Will stay again.

- Facility is just so so because it is old hotel but clean enough.

- Staffs are ok, but not very frindly.

- You can not take 2 ladies and if you want you have to pay about 300 ruble or more (not remember exactly, but it was silly amount) for the 2nd girl, whcih means you can only bring one girl into your room. I took 2 girls and the receptionist (lady) firmly rejected my entry to my room with 2 girls so I eventually had my ladies find another hotel nearby by paying about 1500 rubles and did shortime with Longtime payment.

Massages;.

- 5 massages. Ru: tried 2 branches, but could only find one branch. Went there 2 times, but had onlyy 1 session because the 1st time I went there was to see ladies and to ask if sex is possible. I took 7000 ruble program which the girl took off all the clothes and gave me some massages then HJ. I could see her pussy with 69 position. Some girls were 7 8 out of 10, but once you cum your session is done even though you still have remaining time. Overall I was satisfied with this because I did not expect that much. .

- Dolce Vita: I tried to find this place so walked around for more than 20 minutes by trying all the doors, but could not find it. I also checked the website where the building is as well as the enterance, but never found the entrance because they showed the front side building picture. After reading cucumber's posting below I now know where the entrance is. It was a waste of time and efforts.

Bars;.

Night Flight: This disco is under construction so they blocked about 2/3 of the disco area and made a new bar in 1/3 area, which is just 10 15 M long. I went to this bar 2 times for 2 days and each time there were about 10 12 girls. Few were quite beautiful and generally they were ok. Asking price is a lot higher, but never pay more than 250 USD and if you pick up late (after 2 am or 3 am) the price will go down a lot (for s / t 100 usd or a little bit more. L / T 200 would be the deal). In addition, I stuck to ruble because ruble is little bit cheaper.

As wrote above, I took 2 girls from there for 1 girl price and took them to a bar to drink and enjoy for 2-3 hours. The girls were good and I enjoyed a lot even though I spent more 150 usd for drinking. LOL;.

Visited some more bars to try to find FLs, but could not, but there are many good bars so it would be good to try.

Hotel FL;.

Cosmos: visited this hotel at 9 ish and saw only 3-5 girls in the lobby. They looked old (in their 30's or maybe 40's) and not beautiful so I left in 20 minutes.

Next time, I will go again to adventure more because this time I could not adventure enough.

To do list for next time:

http://clubangels.ru/

http://penthouseclubmoscow.com/page/enter

http://loftclub.ru/index.php?lang=en

http://www.club-aurora.ru/

https://yandex.ru/maps/org/salon_ero...ita/1022614296 . Dolce Vita.

7*7 I have never heard of before, but their site looks promising http://7x7-massage.ru/girls/..

CastOnThis
07-30-17, 14:39
Hello?

Here is my brief reports of 2 nights in Moscow.

Peking Hotel:

- good location, not best though. Will stay again.

- Facility is just so so because it is old hotel but clean enough.

- Staffs are ok, but not very frindly.

- You can not take 2 ladies and if you want you have to pay about 300 ruble or more (not remember exactly, but it was silly amount) for the 2nd girl, whcih means you can only bring one girl into your room. I took 2 girls and the receptionist (lady) firmly rejected my entry to my room with 2 girls so I eventually had my ladies find another hotel nearby by paying about 1500 rubles and did shortime with Longtime payment.

Massages;.

- 5 massages. Ru: tried 2 branches, but could only find one branch. Went there 2 times, but had onlyy 1 session because the 1st time I went there was to see ladies and to ask if sex is possible. I took 7000 ruble program which the girl took off all the clothes and gave me some massages then HJ. I could see her pussy with 69 position..You stayed at the Peking hotel, yet you didn't visit Egoist which is attached to the hotel? What is wrong with you?

Xfreak0000
07-30-17, 16:23
You stayed at the Peking hotel, yet you didn't visit Egoist which is attached to the hotel? What is wrong with you?What the fuck. Damn me.

I did not know the club and even did not see it.

Xfreak0000
07-30-17, 16:28
Hello?

Can you elaborate how the strip clubs like and how I should play if I go?

Due to google map's wrong location of Penthouse strip club, I got off the bus at nowhere and could not take another bus to go to the correct location because it was already over midnight.

I also wanted to try LE Rouge and I did not because the door girl wanted to charge 1,400 ruble for entrance and about 10,000 non-refundable deposit which I must consume.

Is it like American strip clubs that you go in and get yourself coke or beer, sit and watch the shows and if there is any girl you like then call her over to you and ask for lame lap dance with bunch of 1 $ tips?

Jake993
07-31-17, 08:08
Hello Jake,

Can you please tell us how much would be expected?Sorry for slow reply. I am traveling.

Normally, full sex in one of these club will cost you 12,000 - 15,000 with room included. But you never know.

Jake993
07-31-17, 08:11
Hello?

Can you elaborate how the strip clubs like and how I should play if I go?Pretty much America style. Girls will come to you and offer. Typical table dance is about 500 rubles. Private dance 1500 rubles. But depends on day of the week, season, etc.

Xfreak0000
07-31-17, 08:53
Pretty much America style. Girls will come to you and offer. Typical table dance is about 500 rubles. Private dance 1500 rubles. But depends on day of the week, season, etc.Thanks a lot Jake.

Sex is quite expensive.

Rumor has it the strip clubs in Russia are the world best so wanted to try, but failed.

Expecting the next opportunity.

CastOnThis
07-31-17, 17:14
Thanks a lot Jake.

Sex is quite expensive.

Rumor has it the strip clubs in Russia are the world best so wanted to try, but failed.

Expecting the next opportunity.You have to think things in supply and demand. There are not a lot of beautiful women (naturally) and because Russia is a western country. The population of younger women gets smaller and smaller with each passing year. There are still rich men and these rich men are always going to be in demand. So, beautiful women go to where rich men go. And that isn't strip clubs. In strip clubs, you might find a gem, but rarely that will be the case. I'd say best strip clubs in Moscow, is Virgins, Egoist Gold, Golden girls. And with that said, the majority of girls there will not be attractive like model, but doable **** like you see in porno video. Expect no Helga lovekitty, but maybe a Kiara Diane. Good. But she is no Helga Lovekitty.

Xfreak0000
08-01-17, 06:32
You have to think things in supply and demand. There are not a lot of beautiful women (naturally) and because Russia is a western country. The population of younger women gets smaller and smaller with each passing year. There are still rich men and these rich men are always going to be in demand. So, beautiful women go to where rich men go. And that isn't strip clubs. In strip clubs, you might find a gem, but rarely that will be the case. I'd say best strip clubs in Moscow, is Virgins, Egoist Gold, Golden girls. And with that said, the majority of girls there will not be attractive like model, but doable **** like you see in porno video. Expect no Helga lovekitty, but maybe a Kiara Diane. Good. But she is no Helga Lovekitty.Hello CastonThis,

Understood and actually I don't expect to see model quality level of girls. Even though there are a few model quality of girls they are strippers not models so are different.

In terms of my expectation, it is not only about the girls' quality, but also the fun from shows, atmosphere, etc.

I've been to strip clubs only 3 times so far and actually did not have that much fun and the most un-understable thing is lap dance.

What the fuck I pay for? Just have a close look at her face and covered boobs? Better have cold beers watching the strip shows.

Regarding Russian strip clubs, I don't have much expectation, but want to try to have 1st hand experience even though I am disappointed. .

By the way, all the strip clubs in Moscow have the minimum non-refundable deposit such as 10,000 ruble or higher?

CastOnThis
08-01-17, 16:33
Hello CastonThis,

Understood and actually I don't expect to see model quality level of girls. Even though there are a few model quality of girls they are strippers not models so are different.

In terms of my expectation, it is not only about the girls' quality, but also the fun from shows, atmosphere, etc.

I've been to strip clubs only 3 times so far and actually did not have that much fun and the most un-understable thing is lap dance.

What the fuck I pay for? Just have a close look at her face and covered boobs? Better have cold beers watching the strip shows.

Regarding Russian strip clubs, I don't have much expectation, but want to try to have 1st hand experience even though I am disappointed. .

By the way, all the strip clubs in Moscow have the minimum non-refundable deposit such as 10,000 ruble or higher?Yes, to the last question, from my experience. So, you will like Golden Girls and Virgins the best for shows. But remember they will try to milk you out by having a large limit to sit at a table. As for the lap dance, it will depend on how you look. When I was skinny, the girls really enjoyed giving me lap dances. When I got fat, the girls were not so letting in letting me touch them. Now that I am skinny again they are more receptive.

JohnIt
08-01-17, 22:00
Hello,

Intro.

I am a new Member.

47 year old male; I am the general director of my company.

I have read many of your posts / pics and am very impressed by the process and execution of your efforts in enjoying the most beautiful women in Moscow. Thank you for your information! I really appreciate it.

Last time when I was in Moscow I called an escort from the internet called Lera, who is work as independent. She is.

http://moskva.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/1-2-h-100-night-200-horny-pussy-7-926-696-83-44-anal-sex-cim-strap-on-superbusty/3781798

She was are really nice and friendly to me and satisfied the almost all my expectations. She was very cute and quite shy, but it was nice to talk to her and her English was very good. Before starting with some action, both of us took a shower (unfortunately separated). After the shower we went the bed and had a short chat. During the chat we started to touch each other and we began to kiss. From kissing we slide into some nice oral action and ended in 69. Her taste was great and so was her BJ. We did not count the minutes, but I think it was like 30 min only oral action, before we ended up in fucking. She pushed me backwards an the started to ride me, the feeling was great. Her pussy why felt very good and was quite narrow. She was moving her hips and a way that I see could not resist any longer and filled the rubber.

After the first round we just lie on the bed relaxed a bit and had a nice conversation. After a couple of minutes the talked about some personal things in life, which lead again to some kissing action. Of course the 69 was happening again, which was again great. The second round of fucking started with some missionary, but soon we switched to doggy style. It was great to see her sweet ass and feel her pussy. After some minutes she the emand to ride me again, which I could and tO refuse. Short after she started, I was already coming as the combination of her fucking, seeing her bald little pussy and the sweet boobs was to good. Sex was awesome. Absolutely awesome.

The girl really knows how to take care of men.

Xfreak0000
08-02-17, 13:49
Yes, to the last question, from my experience. So, you will like Golden Girls and Virgins the best for shows. But remember they will try to milk you out by having a large limit to sit at a table. As for the lap dance, it will depend on how you look. When I was skinny, the girls really enjoyed giving me lap dances. When I got fat, the girls were not so letting in letting me touch them. Now that I am skinny again they are more receptive.Haha. I am slim so I will expect them to allow me to touch. LOL.

Next time, I will try Golden girls and virgins. Have you ever been to The Penthouse stripclub? Due to its name, I want to try, but google reviews were not that good so I am a little bit hesitant.

CastOnThis
08-02-17, 20:15
Haha. I am slim so I will expect them to allow me to touch. LOL.

Next time, I will try Golden girls and virgins. Have you ever been to The Penthouse stripclub? Due to its name, I want to try, but google reviews were not that good so I am a little bit hesitant.I've been to more strip clubs than I enjoy admitting. Yes, I've been to Penthouse. Would I go again? Only if I can't make it to Virgins or egoist gold.

Wingwang
08-07-17, 20:37
Date & time of session: December 20th. 13:00.

Location: Vanilia Massage by Noviy Arbat street.

Name: Maya.

Nationality & Language: Russian Girl knows about 30 words in English.

Age: 20-21.

Face: 4/5.

Body: 5/5 Perfect body. 6 ft, athletic, with long legs, and a tits and ass to die for. Simply an angel from Heaven.

Skill: 5/5 Never been happier with a massage service.

Service: 10/10 Well I've heard about this place but whoa. The lineup was world class.

This service is the best I've ever had. $100 USD for 90 minutes, model looks. 10/10 massage, 10/10 tug. If you are in Moscow and you want to relax, go here!

GFE: 5/5 full touching and fondling. Playing with ass and pussy. Showers before and after..Thanks for the review. So there is no full service, correct! My assumption is all Massage places offer full service.

Can't wait to visit Moscow.

WW.

Big Dogie
08-10-17, 23:55
What to stay in the Red square area. Is that a good idea? And what are a good option for hotels?

Thanks.

Krevet
08-11-17, 07:03
What to stay in the Red square area. Is that a good idea? And what are a good option for hotels?

Thanks.Hotel Metropol and Hotel National are near there. Very good place.

YummyPL
08-12-17, 01:49
You have to think things in supply and demand. There are not a lot of beautiful women (naturally) and because Russia is a western country. The population of younger women gets smaller and smaller with each passing year. There are still rich men and these rich men are always going to be in demand. So, beautiful women go to where rich men go. And that isn't strip clubs. In strip clubs, you might find a gem, but rarely that will be the case. I'd say best strip clubs in Moscow, is Virgins, Egoist Gold, Golden girls. And with that said, the majority of girls there will not be attractive like model, but doable **** like you see in porno video. Expect no Helga lovekitty, but maybe a Kiara Diane. Good. But she is no Helga Lovekitty.Very refreshing! I had never heard of Helga lovekitty, but when someone mentions "model" attractiveness, I always expect an icy looking blond. Well, I looked up Ms. Lovekitty, and she is actually a warm looking brunette (tits are too big for my taste but oh well).

Jorge Rad10
08-12-17, 09:13
You have to think things in supply and demand. There are not a lot of beautiful women (naturally) and because Russia is a western country. The population of younger women gets smaller and smaller with each passing year. There are still rich men and these rich men are always going to be in demand. So, beautiful women go to where rich men go. And that isn't strip clubs. In strip clubs, you might find a gem, but rarely that will be the case. I'd say best strip clubs in Moscow, is Virgins, Egoist Gold, Golden girls. And with that said, the majority of girls there will not be attractive like model, but doable **** like you see in porno video. Expect no Helga lovekitty, but maybe a Kiara Diane. Good. But she is no Helga Lovekitty.Just my two cents, I'm using the social media to get girls in Russia, since Russian girls are using it massively, if you are lucky you will find a girl who speak english, many of them are very beautiful. But also depends if you come to Russia often and start developing good networking. As I wrote in a post here, I got very lucky and I met an ex model using different social apps (not mamba, no dating sites). I have been in strip clubs as well but never found a 9 neither 8.5. But out in the street and in specific locations like Duran Bar, Moscow city or in karaoke bars you will be able to find really good talents but again, if you don't speak at least some words of russian, your chances are very low.

Cheers.

CastOnThis
08-12-17, 15:56
Very refreshing! I had never heard of Helga lovekitty, but when someone mentions "model" attractiveness, I always expect an icy looking blond. Well, I looked up Ms. Lovekitty, and she is actually a warm looking brunette (tits are too big for my taste but oh well).See, when I was in Kiev, I kept running into a Helga Lovekitty loookalike, except this one had small breasts. And I like women with small breasts, to me she was perfect. But her limited english skills lead us to nowhere, plus she kept mentioning she had a boyfriend. So yeah.

Is she more of what you like?

https://www.instagram.com/oabramovich/

https://www.instagram.com/darisemenova/

InTheSandpit
08-13-17, 07:07
Can anyone recommend the current best strip clubs in Moscow please? Is it still the expectation to tip the girl if they give you a small dance in public area and if so what is the going rate?

CastOnThis
08-13-17, 16:58
Can anyone recommend the current best strip clubs in Moscow please? Is it still the expectation to tip the girl if they give you a small dance in public area and if so what is the going rate?RTFF.

But because there needs to be ten characters. The best strip clubs in Moscow are egoist gold, golden girls, virgins. Now, don't tell me the girls work because they like letting you see them naked?

Jake993
08-14-17, 06:11
Can anyone recommend the current best strip clubs in Moscow please? Is it still the expectation to tip the girl if they give you a small dance in public area and if so what is the going rate?This is a very subjective topic to be sure. With all due respect to the opinion of CastOnThis, I prefer Aurora 911 and Angels http://clubangels.ru/. Table Dance is about 300 RUB depending on the girl and the night of the week and a private dance (off in a private room) can vary between 1,000 RUB and 1,500 RUB again, depending on the girl and how busy it is. What is exceptional about Angels is are the on-site facilities should you choose to participate in "extra" services.

SuperTodinho
08-18-17, 17:40
Hi Jake,

Fantasys web site is not working, I have vpn and tried several countries to no avail. Do you still use them, if so can you share their phone number?

I have made it to charmel. I called them when I got to the place mentioned on the web site and they spoke english very well. The woman on the phone asked my name and told me to wait. I wasn't actually expecting them to speak english, that surprised me. A guy came along -well dressed and pretty normal. I told him I was hungry and he told me I can just eat in the bar next to their place which was a good english or Irish pub I think. I called him in half an hour and he took me to the apartment.

They got me into a room which was well designed but nothing spectacular. In a minute 6-7 girls came into the room and one was to my liking, I give her 9 and the others were good as well. Mostly 7-8 I'd say. There was also another I liked but I had to pick one and I went with the blonde of course. Got a towel went to shower, paid the money for 1 hour 6000 rubles. 1 Hour went by fast, with google translate, I had fun.

I'd definitely recommend this place but I'm not sure if this is high end. They send to hotels but first you have to build trust with them. I have no idea how long that takes but I'll report in the future if they send to hotel.

WTW.Since I was staying quite close to Arbat St and motivated by at WanderTheWorld I decided to call Charmel. The woman on the phone told me to wait and after some time a young guy just showed up and took me to the place. I went to Charmel 2 times in different days.

In the first day 5 girls were there. I choose the skinny blonde around hers 20. She was OK. The sex was also OK, not something remarkable but OK.

In the seconded day around 3 girls were available, all of them brunettes. This time I picked a girl around my age 27's, I think her name was Vika or something like this, anyway, she has some huge tattoos on her back which turned me on. This time the sexy was better just like I am used to have in Brazil. I will def. Try to find her the next time I travel to Moscow.

I tried to communicate with both of girls but they only knew some words. I am really worried about the mongering conditions during the world cup next year.

Mcd7777
08-19-17, 00:44
Can anyone recommend the current best strip clubs in Moscow please? Is it still the expectation to tip the girl if they give you a small dance in public area and if so what is the going rate?I'm from Moscow. Aurora 911 is the best IMHO (they don't use aggressive consummation), for normal visit you need from 30 k (500 usd) rubles. If you need only sex, Aurora is very overpriced place. If you need only striptease (full nudity) you can left 7-10 k (if you don't buy drinks for a girls). Prices for 1 h in Moscow with girl starts from 2000 rubles (for crocodiles) end 5000-12000 rubles for model girls. Sites with real girls is dosug. Cz intimcity. NL don't worry about CZ and NL (they just can't host in Russia). From Russia you must use VPN (like opera) or browser like Puffin.

Coyle
08-26-17, 04:09
Dear comrades,

What do you think about rusprostitute.com for moscow?

Is this scam or relatively usable?

GoldenRule
08-26-17, 22:21
Hi brother,

I would be in Russia next week. Can you give a good contact of pros? English speaking? It would be great help.

Regards.


I'm from Moscow. Aurora 911 is the best IMHO (they don't use aggressive consummation), for normal visit you need from 30 k (500 usd) rubles. If you need only sex, Aurora is very overpriced place. If you need only striptease (full nudity) you can left 7-10 k (if you don't buy drinks for a girls). Prices for 1 h in Moscow with girl starts from 2000 rubles (for crocodiles) end 5000-12000 rubles for model girls. Sites with real girls is dosug. Cz intimcity. NL don't worry about CZ and NL (they just can't host in Russia). From Russia you must use VPN (like opera) or browser like Puffin.

George 6969
09-05-17, 20:12
Just to inform you that Nightflight will be closed for renovation for some days / weeks. Reopening will be in the beginning of October best to my knowledge. I am not on facebook, so maybe members will find there some informations.

Iceman2007
09-08-17, 16:56
Hi Members,

I am from India and will be visiting Moscow for official purpose again. It is my second time and this time I am coming to Moscow for 2 weeks this time in September. This time I will be staying in Mosfilm hotel, Ramenki, Moscow. Wanted to understand from fellow Moscow forum members whether this hotel girl friendly or not. Is it possible to ask Girl to come to hotel room directly.

Last time I had nice time with Diana (https://www.rusdosug.com/indi212202.htm). I tried to contact her again some time in August but she said she is on vacation. Now as per her profile in rusdosug.com she is back in Moscow but she is not responding to any of my emails, sms messages, what's app messages. Sad Not sure why she is not responding. May be again not interested in meeting Indians.

Saw many profiles in rusdosug.com, their services offered and shortlisted few profiles who can speak English, have email ID or are on what's app which makes communication easier with them. Hopefully any one or two are ok to meet an Indian for outcall.

Angelika: https://www.rusdosug.com/indi233468.htm.

Elina: https://www.rusdosug.com/indi236482.htm.

Vera: https://www.rusdosug.com/indi240849.htm (bit on costlier side).

Any other suggestions about hotel or anything I need to take care of is most welcome.

Thanks in advance for support to Moscow forum members.

Iceman.

Jake993
09-13-17, 06:09
Hi Members,
I am from India and will be visiting Moscow for official purpose again. It is my second time and this time I am coming to Moscow for 2 weeks this time in September. This time I will be staying in Mosfilm hotel, Ramenki, Moscow. Wanted to understand from fellow Moscow forum members whether this hotel girl friendly or not. Is it possible to ask Girl to come to hotel room directly.
Iceman,

You certainly have chosen an "off the beaten track" hotel. However, it's in a really nice part of Moscow. Very quiet and quite near the Moscow Golf Club if that's of any interest to you. The problem is that's it a long walk from the metro so you will need to take taxis where ever you go. But I digress. Officially, the Mosfilm Hotel is probably not girl friendly in the Western sense. In other words, if you invite a girl to come to your room, they will probably ask her to register at the front desk and show her passport. But this is no big deal. All of the working girls are quite familiar with this procedure so don't worry. I they plan to spend the night, they MAY charge you for a guest but probably not. As the name suggests, this is the historic location of MOSFILM the Soviet era state film company so there has been a lot of fucking in that hotel over the years as it was frequented by film artists so I don't think they are going to bat an eye at you want to get some Russian pussy. By the way, if you get a chance go and take a tour of the MOSFIL Museum. It's fascinating.

Good luck!

Jake.

Iceman2007
09-15-17, 19:04
Thanks a ton Jake for your kind words and advice. Company booked this hotel for me as it was falling in the budget company allocates for hotel accommodation, so had no choice. MOSFILM studio I did have look at I from outside. It looks very beautiful. Will plan to visit the museum. Thanks again for support and advice.

Iceman.


Iceman,

You certainly have chosen an "off the beaten track" hotel. However, it's in a really nice part of Moscow. Very quiet and quite near the Moscow Golf Club if that's of any interest to you. The problem is that's it a long walk from the metro so you will need to take taxis where ever you go. But I digress. Officially, the Mosfilm Hotel is probably not girl friendly in the Western sense. In other words, if you invite a girl to come to your room, they will probably ask her to register at the front desk and show her passport. But this is no big deal. All of the working girls are quite familiar with this procedure so don't worry. I they plan to spend the night, they MAY charge you for a guest but probably not. As the name suggests, this is the historic location of MOSFILM the Soviet era state film company so there has been a lot of fucking in that hotel over the years as it was frequented by film artists so I don't think they are going to bat an eye at you want to get some Russian pussy. By the way, if you get a chance go and take a tour of the MOSFIL Museum. It's fascinating.

Good luck!

Jake.

Jake993
09-19-17, 20:15
Thanks a ton Jake for your kind words and advice. Company booked this hotel for me as it was falling in the budget company allocates for hotel accommodation, so had no choice. MOSFILM studio I did have look at I from outside. It looks very beautiful. Will plan to visit the museum. Thanks again for support and advice.

Iceman.Hi Iceman,

Please clear your message box. Your limited has been exceeded and I cannot send you a PM.

Cheers,

Jake.

Iceman2007
09-20-17, 05:55
Hi Iceman,

Please clear your message box. Your limited has been exceeded and I cannot send you a PM.

Cheers,

Jake.Hi Jake,

Have cleared the inbox. Many thanks.

Iceman.

BreezyHome
09-24-17, 00:09
I'm not used to the strip club scene and generally prefer apartments or outcalls. I've seen dosug. Cz, rusdosug.com and intimcity. NL all recommended in various threads but not much about what is reliable, for example I can find the salon Sharm on rusdosug.com and dosug. Cz, but they have different phone numbers. Any intel on salons like Sharm is also welcome, I know the profile for Alisa is probably fake but I have to find out.

HighRevver
10-06-17, 17:03
This is their site. I think they recently changed their name: http://www.beauties-students.ru/.

Anyways, onto the report. I always make sure that I list out all the services and prices before scheduling an appointment. After all, this is a transaction. I spoke with I can only assume the person who handles all the scheduling. Through that person in WhatsApp, we agreed to services and prices. I had scheduled it for 3 hrs for the set price on the site. As the person shows up, it isn't who I requested at all. In fact, the person didn't even realize their name was incorrect when I asked (which should've been my initial tip off). In the hotel room, I started to pay but she mentioned that it would only be an hour and the services were cut short by almost half of what I originally negotiated. I showed her the messages and she then got defensive. We called her dispatch and they said that some girls negotiate prices when in the room and they can't do anything about it. This whole time, she's rubbing herself against me. In the end, I turn her away but am leaving Moscow with a sour taste in my mouth (luckily nothing Germany can't fix!

So just a word to all the fellow mongers, beware!

Bigbird747
10-07-17, 05:26
Thanks to all who provided info on Moscow, here is my contribution.

As mentioned before, there are no outright brothels or FKK style establishments here, closest being the strip clubs which then to be more high end. There are also many Massage and salons, but I'm not clear if its just rubbing, HJ type of places or full service. The pictures seem to suggest full service, but think you need to be able to speak Russian to get more details. Plus no one here has ever mentioned them as a good place to monger. So I chose to try the independent scene, using intimacy and rusdosug.

Firstly, you need a VPN since both are blocked. Its kinda funny that you need to be 'out of country' to get information from within the country. The main difference between the two is ease of usage, especially for non-Russian speakers.

Rusdosug has English text, and allows you to search specifically for Eng, French, Spanish speaking ladies as well as map based searches for incall. That is very useful to sift through the many offerings. Phone numbers are provided for contact, though mostly require direct phone calls, with some offering whatsapp or viber channels. A small map shows you where they are located for incalls. Somepages have reviews, but not many.

Intimacy is basically Russian text, so you need to use chrome or some other tool to directly translate the text, then try to understand the translation. Haha. But unless you are a English teacher or ocd, that won't matter too much. Again, map searches also available, though not by language capability so mostly pure Russian speakers here. Contact details also offer some with Whatsapp or viber details. There are much more reviews as well as responses from the girls, so it seems much more interactive.

I put the numbers into the phone and tried to whatsapp. A few did not respond to my english texts, found one but she rejected based on my Chinese nationality. Thought about getting a burner phone to make local calls, but I don't speak Russian so it was moot.

I managed to find a beauty Xenia, who was on her last day of her Moscow working holiday. Luckily, she answered her whatsapp in english so was able to work out the details for an incall since close to my hotel, which wasnt convenient for an outcall. Arrived at the door and she was just a bit different from the pics, though still cute as a button. (Closer examination of pics afterwards shows she mixed in someone else holiday pics, but were really lookalike).

Quick shower and onto a fantastic covered BJ, feeling her strong tongue lash my member, with deep throat and plenty of eye contact. She was a bit hasty in getting to the main event so had to slow her down to maximise my full hour booking. DATY and 69 was quickly follow, then she seemed to get really turned on and mounted me before I could react, but no complaints there, to see her lithe frame and huge silicone bouncing inches from my face. She had a full bag of tricks and knew exactly how to get the best out of any position without slowing down.

Couldn't hold it for too long, so had to flip her over to missionary so I could control the pace instead. Pumping her hard with DFK to feel that tongue again was heavenly and she made all the right sounds with orgasmic screaming and writhing limbs to get me to finish with her. It was a hot sweaty mess of exhausted bodies on that bed as she squeezed every last drop as she pounded my mouth with her tongue.

An hour well spent and back onto the cold streets on rubbery legs. And a desire to learn Russian.

VgsFun
10-08-17, 05:00
Hi bro,

I am from India also. And wanted to see if you could share your experience. I have heard that a lot of girls will simply turn you down based on ethnicity. I will be visiting Moscow later this month. If you have any tips. Please do share.


Hi Members,

I am from India and will be visiting Moscow for official purpose again. It is my second time and this time I am coming to Moscow for 2 weeks this time in September. This time I will be staying in Mosfilm hotel, Ramenki, Moscow. Wanted to understand from fellow Moscow forum members whether this hotel girl friendly or not. Is it possible to ask Girl to come to hotel room directly.

Last time I had nice time with Diana (https://www.rusdosug.com/indi212202.htm). I tried to contact her again some time in August but she said she is on vacation. Now as per her profile in rusdosug.com she is back in Moscow but she is not responding to any of my emails, sms messages, what's app messages. Sad Not sure why she is not responding. May be again not interested in meeting Indians..

Bigbird747
10-09-17, 19:30
Following my adventures with Xenia, I continued my search to keep warm in this windy city. Not many independents offer Whatsapp, mostly preferring for voice calls, which is impossible for non Russian speakerss.

After a lot of failed attempts in English, I tried using Google Translate and asked in Russian. Very quickly, Aloyna (from intimcity) replied and we quickly worked out an appointment. She happened to be near my hotel for an incall in the Olympic stadium / Prospect Mira area. I did ask her about language and she said only Russian and Spanish, so I downloaded both into the app and saved a few choice words for faster communication.

The door opens and she is a lot more petite than in the photos, though very nicely porportioned. A brief greeting and into the showers. She seemed business like at this point, so not much GFE, though it is most likely due to the language barrier. But once the doors were closed and we got onto the bed, she transformed into a tigeress in heat!

A sensual cat bath with DFK before she took off the rest of her undies to show off nicely shaped breasts and a shapely hips that had just the right amount of flesh. I showed her the Translate app with my needs (slow BJ, no rushing) and she read it quickly with a shy smile. So she flipped her self over, and pulled me onto her breasts, which was literally a perfect natural mouthful with pert nipples. At the same time, she guided my hand downwards into her really tight mound as she spread her legs wide for full access. I needed no further invitation to feast upon her beautiful body.

Soon, it was her turn to return the pleasure, and boy, did she go to town on my member. Without hesitation, she deep throat until I could feel the tonsils! She truly was a specialist and I had to slow her down (by pulling out my phone to type the words! Haha) before the main event. She giggled and was very accommodating, changing positions and rhythms for maximum pleasure.

I flipped back into missionary to start and to my surprise, she didn't even reach for lube, which is almost a given for many at this stage. She was as tight as her lithe frame suggests, and she had a skill to arch her back, while stretching her legs and feet to lock at my shoulders or hips for maximum effect. Through all this, her face in ecstasy and the right amount of grunts intepersed with half gasps and laboured breaths was an aural complement to the physical pleasures as our bodies moved in sensual unison.

There were surprising moments as well- after doggy, I wanted her to get on top, but my gestures were obviously not clear as she quickly popped my member back into her mouth and continued to use her mouth to devastating effect. Again, in my experience, this rarely happens without a change of cap. I grunted so loudly, she actually thought I had finished! But when I indicated I still had miles to run, she quickly smiled and quickly got on top to grind away. That's a sight I will not be forgetting for a while.

She could clearly sense when the peak was to be released and I could feel her own body tensed up as she used all her Kegel expertise to grip me while moaning into my ear and kept pumping me even when I had exhausted myself into the hat. Another sweaty mash of hair, heaving chests and spent limbs. A quick cleanup and she helped me up into the bathroom. By the time, I got cleaned up, she turned business-like again. Again, I'm hoping its just the language as I will very likely RTF if she is still around on my next trip.

A gem not to be missed.

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=267509

Jake993
10-10-17, 06:42
Following my adventures with Xenia, I continued my search to keep warm in this windy city. Not many independents offer Whatsapp, mostly preferring for voice calls, which is impossible for non Russian speakerss.

A gem not to be missed.

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=267509Great report BB. Thanks for sharing.

Jenner X
10-19-17, 14:32
Hi fellas!

Finally reached out for here.

Visiting Moscow from time to time for business occasions.

Used to go to all-inclusive strip clubs, but got tired of spending around 500 $ per intercourse (including entrance fee, drinks, etc.) for quite an ordinary experience.

So I recently opened for myself the world of Moscow erotic massage.

As I booked a hotel close to Lubyanka, at first we cheered up at Dream bar which is on Myasnitskaya str. And then my local friends invited me for a continuation.

The Massage place name is "Center", it is in the walking distance from Kitay Gorod or Chistie Prudy metro stations.

8 beauties showed up, chose an 1,5 h program with 2 girls for! 7000 rubles (100 $), champagne went for free.

Enjoyed 2 endings, could touch them everywhere, but no "penetration" was permitted. Room was a little bit tidy, but comfy.

The Place also had a hammam bath, so you may relax there, but I decided not to take it this time.

Center's web-site, if you decide to follow my lead: http://erotik-centr.ru.

Would recommend the Place and erotic massage clubs in general.

TravelBoy27
11-06-17, 10:59
I would like to join gangbang in Moscow. Anybody who has experience with this?

On Wamba this girl told me she is looking for gangbang.

https://www.mamba.ru/mb1748139485. If you tried her already or meet her in future, please let us know the result of you meeting?

Dave9090
11-14-17, 14:15
I have never posted on here, however I am doing so now to make people aware of a Tinder scam I suffered from recently in Saint Petersburg. Whilst it happened in SPB, I am sure similar things happen in Moscow also so please be careful when using any online dating platform in Russia!

Basically, I met a woman on Tinder back in June who I was chatting with for some time and then I arranged to meet her on Nevsky Avenue for a drink one evening. She took me to a place called the Secret Service Pub on Nevsky Avenue. I immediately grew suspicious upon entering this bar as it was only around 7 pm and the place was quiet yet it had 1 or 2 security guys on the door, plus my instinct was telling me that the staff there knew my "Date" without any of them actually acknowledging each other, and in addition there were a couple of attractive girls sat at the bar alone. Even though I had these instincts, I still stayed as I had never heard of people being scammed in this way in Russia, or anywhere else for that matter and I am very well travelled. Anyway, the Date kept wanting to go into a separate closed off Karaoke area of the venue which I wasn't too keen on as I had not even had a drink yet that day, and when the menu arrived to order she wanted to order a bottle of wine that was priced around £80 and some kind of meat tray which again seemed somewhat overpriced after the meat tray arrived as it was very basic, however I had not been in Russia too long at that point so I was not aware of what the prices for things should generally be also. I refused to pay for the wine and asked her to order another drink instead, so she opted for a cocktail (which I did not see the price of) and the meat tray, whilst I order a reasonably priced beer for myself. I was getting a bad feeling about the bar still, so I told her I wanted to go somewhere else midway through my first drink, however she was quite insistent that she wanted to stay in this bar. I managed to persuade her to leave after a while, and when presented with the bill it came to something like $80 which I thought was highly excessive but which I felt I had to pay as we had consumed the items. After checking the reviews of this bar on Google some time after, it was clear other people had had a similar experience to me and that this bar was clearly a scam bar. Anyway, after leaving that bar, the Date wanted to go to another bar just a few doors up from the Secret Service Pub, which again looked quite empty and ominous so I refused and instead we carried on walking up the road until I found a bar that was quite busy and looked safe. She was reluctant to go in, but I managed to persuade her saying we would just go to this bar for a couple of drinks. Anyway, when we got in there her attitude completely changed and she began constantly playing with her phone, and after 15 or so minutes two of her friends showed up and I then even get a worse feeling about events and made my excuses and left.

So after a couple more drinks on my own, I went back onto Tinder and started chatting with another girl who, quite quickly, agreed to meet me that night. I had had a few drinks by this stage so I wasn't thinking straight, as there should have been alarm bells ringing as it was around 10 pm at that point on a week day night (not the weekend) and she agreed to meet me after not such a substantial degree of conversation. Anyway, she asked if she could bring a friend, which I didn't mind, and then also asked if I would pay her taxi, which when I asked her how much, she quoted something in the region of £12. Going on UK rates, I didn't think £12 was too much so I agreed to pay it, however after later learning the taxi rates in Saint Petersburg I know that £12 is highly excessive and that taxi's do not cost that much even if you are going from the centre to the airport. Anyway, when my second "Date" showed, her and her friend seemed really nice and I did not have any suspicions this time around. They asked me if I liked Karaoke and so off we all went to a Karaoke bar (which was called Granada Bar on Stremyannaya Ul. 4 according to my credit card receipts from the night). So when we entered this place the girls wanted to order a bottle of champagne, which again seemed highly overpriced (around 5,000 Russian Rubles from memory), however I agreed to pay for just the one bottle to start things off with the intention of then going on to something cheaper as I was well aware of the expensive pricing. But after the first bottle, the waitress kept coming back and I kept ordering this clearly overpriced champagne, even though I was well aware from the first bottle that it was overpriced, which leads me to believe that the waitress must have put something in my drink to make me more suggestive to keep paying for such low quality overpriced champagne (or one of the two girls put something in my drink, either way it was apparent afterwards that both the two girls and the venue were in on this deceptive scam), and the venue even charged an excessive amount for each Karaoke song (I have been to quite a few Karaoke bars around the world and have never been charged per song for Karaoke) and also charged excessive prices for Sheisha, which again I knew was highly overpriced yet I kept paying which leads me further to believe that I was drugged in some way. You were even allowed to smoke cigarettes sat at your seat in this Karaoke bar, which should have raised alarm bells also given that smoking in bars appears to be banned at all the other bars I have been to in Saint Petersburg previous to this bar. Anyway, I cannot remember leaving the bar at the end of the night, however counting my credit card receipts up the next day including the money I took out with me that night, I spent a total in the region of $1,500 (in hindsight it was very stupid to take credit cards out with me that night but I was hungover from the previous night and not thinking straight). The bizarre thing was, that second Date was messaging me the next day asking if I wanted to go out again with her! When I questioned the pricing from the night before she said that was "normal", however we all know that type of spending on a night out is not "normal" for most people! Again, after checking the reviews of this Karaoke bar on google other people have had the same type of scam experience at that place.

Anyway, in summary, I did not report any of this to the police as there did not seem any point as I would not be able to claim such "theft" on my travel insurance and, as I am sure you know, the police have a reputation for being very corrupt in Russia.

Stay safe people!

FunkySexy
11-21-17, 06:41
Great report BB. Thanks for sharing.I concur with Jake, thanks BB for the super article and posting the link so as to point us mongers in the right direction.

Cheers,

FunkySexy.

Coyle
12-05-17, 05:06
Hi fellow punters,

I got much interested in Moscow's salon culture (never been experienced in Moscow).

Can anyone chime in their experience in salon?

Is it safe for foreigners and also all night. Any restrictions?

What can you do in Salon?

Thanks!