Saint Petersburg

[Doctor_Skank]

Mike3:

IMHO:
Please don't think you have to wear a suit and tie to impress Russian girls. Depending on the type of club or establishment you visit you can wear "almost" anything, it should just look like it is from a designer label ($$$), is clean (obviously), is fashionable and you should feel comfortable in it.

Any number of combos possible. Shoes are important. Only wear sneakers/trainers if you are going to that kind of club (hipHop etc.)... otherwise you will likely get rejected at the door for violating dress code.

Suit defintely works with many girls, but if you go to a club late at night wearing a suit and tie may leave you feeling hopelessly overdressed.

[OttoGraham]

Mike, what Doctor Skank said. ;)

-Uncle Otto

[Bob01]

Hi everyone,

I will apologise straight away as this is my first post and it is a request for information. Hopefully I will be able to balance this out in the near future with reports on my trip to St.P.

I am visiting St.P (and indeed Russia) for the first time in a couple of weeks and would like to hook up with some Russian women whilst I am there. The only problem is that I will be going with collegues from work and don't want them to find out....

And on top of that I obviously don't speak any Russian :(

And on top of THAT I am really into anal sex and would like to find women who will allow it.

I am thinking that I will be restricted to the working girls in the hotel bar (I have heard that it is common to find them here but that you can have problems with hotel security - I will be staying in the Hotel St Petersburg..any idea if this is true?). Don't really feel that going to Marstels or similar would be a good idea on my own as a newbie in Russia so the other options would be one of the escort agencies I found on the SPTimes website or one of the girls advertising on www.Petersex.info.

I guess my question is really, where is the best chance of finding a working girl who allows anal and speaks english and that I can get into my hotel room with the minimal fuss and without paying a fortune. I don't ask for much do I!?!?!?! ;o)

Apols again for all the questions in my first post...hope you guys can help me out.

[Andy S]

Bob1

Buy the illutrated newspaper "ZNAKOMSTVA" and you will find there lot of ads from girls with photos and phones. Girls with anal avilable also. But onlý few girls speaks english.

Good luck!

Andy

[Stravinsky]

Orginally posted by Bob01
I guess my question is really, where is the best chance of finding a working girl who allows anal and speaks english and that I can get into my hotel room with the minimal fuss and without paying a fortune. I don't ask for much do I!?!?!?! ;o)


The best place is probably right in the hotel where you will be staying. It's been several years since I stayed at the Gosteenitsa Sankt Peterburg (Hotel St. Petersburg), but as I recall, there is a large mezzanine area above the main hotel lobby. There are several lounge areas and a small bar/nightclub there on the mezzanine. Later in the evening, around 22:00 or 23:00, you should see a fairly good selection of attractive young ladies, all nicely dressed and each one sitting by herself. They are all on the program.

The Hotel St. Petersburg is a big international hotel, so all of these dyevs should speak pretty good English (at least that was my experience), so communication should not be a problem.

Don't worry about security, the girls are there because security let them in, and they paid a fee for that priveledge. It also means you may have to pay a little more, since they have to recoup their bribe to security. But in your situation, it's probably worth it.

The Russian word for anal is "ah-NAHL". If you've established the fact the you're dealing with a working girl, she shouldn't be too put out if you just tell her, " Ya ha-CHOO ah-NAHL-ni syeks sssstah-BOY". That should get the point across. Her response will be basically "Da" or "Nyet". It could also be "BOL-shye DYEN-ig", which means more money.

After you close the deal, take her up to your room and I think you can figure out the rest. Hopefully, none of your business associates will see you in the hallway. ;-)

Shyestleeva,

Stravinksy

[Ricardo Cabro]

Bob,

Further to Stravinsky's post, I have stayed at Hotel St Petersburg several times in the last 3 years, the latest being March this year. The action on the Mezzanine level no longer exists and I have never known the bar up there to be open. The lobby bar is tiny and is positioned to the left of the main lobby under the staircase to the Mezzanine. You will find 5 or 6 working girls there each evening from about 10pm onwards. They are not too bad looking but ask for $150 per hour. No hassles with hotel security but it is quite expensive for the apparent quality. I've never indulged, preferring to visit bars such as Marstall and Tribunal or apartments. I have taken girls back to the hotel a couple of years ago and security required $20 bribes. But I was paying the girl $70-$100 for the whole night so to me was better value than the lobby girls.

Hope this helps you.

Ricardo Cabron

[Bob01]

Andy and Stravinsky,

Thanks for the advice guys. It is certainly appreciated.

[Bob01]

Thanks for the advice Ricardo.

Is $150 the going rate for all hotel girls at the moment. I don't want to end up paying above the normal rate as it will just encourage prices to go up! Is anal normally extra or is it included if the particular girl allows it?

[Crompton]

Hi All,

Spent a week in St Petersburg and one night went trawling along Nevskey Prospect.

there seems to be plenty of street action at the end beyond Moscow Rail station.

I was stopped by a girl who asked if i was looking for sex.

I replied yes. She was about 5'8" and good looking paid $200 for all night in the apartment I had rented.

We went on a walk around Saint Petersburg telling me about the sights there.

After about two hours of my private guided tour retreated to the apartment, had a drink and then down to the best part of the evening.
Blow jobs, hands, and fucking in many positions till we was both tired.
Then a nice wake up call in the morning with some more action.

Well worth the punt.

A very nice girl indeed

Crompton

[Vest Mann]

Anyone got good advice for a newcomer to Saint Petersburg. I will be staying for apr. 3 months and have already decided after reading the reports to visit Magrib, seems to be a good place that is unless someone has a better idea?

Also I saw an old report on SPA ELITA, has anyone been there recently?

All info on where to find beautiful girls, and current prices is highly appreciated.

V.

[Speed Touch]

vest mann,

i went to spa elita last year. it's on the main moskovy propect if i remember correctly. its very professional. the give you a catalogue for you to pick a woman. often they don't have the women available, but you'll end up with a stunner anyway.

off to the room for an oily body to body massage with last about 40/50 mins and then hand relief. it was about 2000 rubles, which is expensive. you prod need to get a taxi there and back as it's quite far from the centre of spb.

there's a few other places where you can get an outstanding massage for about 800/900 rubles all in. there's no sex just hand relief, but the massage (boby to body) is awesome. these are usually in done it typical russian apartments where you can pick a girl (or two) from a selection of 5. they're all hot and it is difficult choosing sometimes. i've mislaid the numbers for these though. if anyone has the numbers please let me know. they speak limited english and you have to call first, so sometimes it can be a problem. i went to these about 4 times in the space of 8 days!

i'm there at the end of july, so if you want to hook up give me a pm, or anyone else for that matter. i quite fancy going to some of the clubs there.

speed touch

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[Doctor_Skank]

Another good "normal" club is Jet Set... a bit upscale, but not as murderously elitny as its Moscow equivalent.

[Toscana]

Spent a couple of White Nights nights a fortnight ago at the Hotel Mockva.

Around 23.00-24.00 both nights (Fri and Sat) there was quite a lot of action in the main bar adjacent to the lobby. Probably hotel's own regulars, as some knew each other. I spotted four, and my freebie companion a couple more I wouldn't have registered. Some good lookers. Sorry, couldn't investigate prices or services under the circumstances. Lapin Kulta beer to enjoy as your eyes surf. There's also a Night Bar, which I didn't go to.

Of course, if you stay, you get the twin beds and not a double. About USD 100 the night.

[Russia Guy]

I have just returned to the US after two years in St Pete (and yes I am chomping at the bit to return). I though that I would share some of my experiences.

I am suprised to note that no one has really mentioned Tutsy Bar in the forum. It is located off of the Lt Schmidt Bridge on the Vaselievsky on a small boat. It is one of the true gems of St Pete. On Friday there is an excellent show programme and the girls are all available on site. They have just remodeled the rooms upstairs. The going price is 4000 RR for an hour. Yes I know that this is more than what you would pay for take away from the bars, but I had a live in girlfriend and the fact that it was room inclusive was a plus. You can get lap dances at your table from every girl (7-9s) for 50 RR and get an idea of your favorites.

Koko Bongo, located in the Stockman building on Nevsky next to Kazan Sobor is another place worth checking out. Aslo full service in the lap dance room, about the same price. No beds here just massive carpet burns from the floor. The girls are not as hot (4-8). It is on the good side of the bridges so you don't get stuck.

I hope to be back in St Pete for a week at the end of Sept or beginning of Oct so if anyone will be around drop me a line.

Good Hunting.

[Zizz Bang]

I've been lurking for awhile, thought maybe it was time to contribute. First off all, I must say, that I don't like to pay for play. I have done it twice and have never liked it. I like reading other posts about it, but for me the reality never meets the fantasy. Secondly, I live off and on between Los Angeles and Las Vegas, so perhaps my standards of beauty are skewed. Las Vegas girls can be extremely beautiful, if in that stripper way. And, supposedly, I am a very good looking guy, so I am lazy when it comes to working for women; sometimes when I want to hook up, I don't really have the skills to do so. But that's why Eastern Europe is so nice for me, it is so easy compared to the USA. By the way, I would rather go home and whack off than hook up with a fugly woman, just my preference.

I have never been to Russia before, and have been traveling for a few weeks. First in the Baltic states, then Russia, where I am right now. I have not posted anything yet about Latvia and Estonia, but here's the short version, since this is the Russia board.

Riga: Awesome. Extremely beautiful and friendly women. Hooked up three times in four days, no P4P.
Tallinn: Awful. Overrun by drunks and tourists. Average women. Will never go back as this place is played out, at least in terms of freebies. Your milage may vary.

I have been in St Petersburg for a week and I love it. Don't know when I'm going to leave, because it is just so nice.

On the recommendation of this board, I booked a nice two-room apartment, on Fontanka, through www.roxana.spb.ru for 70 euros a night. Checked out Magrib, a ten minute walk away, on Thursday evening. Truthfully, I have trouble telling some of the pros from the non-pros in Eastern Europe, since so many normal girls are all dolled up, even during the day. Met a beautiful brunette, 8-9, who I made out with at the booth. Spoke nearly no English, but her friend interpreted. She didn't seem too keen on me pulling out my Russian phrasebook and physically put it away. Not sure why, but that limited the interaction. No sex, although she stroked my dick while we made out. Pleasant enough and free. For me, having the hottest girl at the club sitting on my lap, might be just as good as sex.

Backing up. Wednesday morning, I walked into the Mocca Cafe on Nevsky, had an Earl Grey, and spotted an incredible brunette working the counter. Although I had planned to brush up on my Russian while in Latvia/Estonia, no one would speak it with me once they knew I was an American. Anyways, I got the courage up to go back and ask this girl out, with perhaps thirty words of Russian under my belt. She seemed flattered and accepted. We went out on Friday night, to a great Indian restaurant called Kashmir. She said she had never eaten Indian food, and was hesitant to even eat, because she thought she was too fat and old. She was 24 and maybe 115 pounds -- that's probably the mindset of growing up where a higher percentage of women are stunning. Although she had a boyfriend, we made out like crazy on a parkbench and I brought her off with my hand down her low-cut Italian pants. She jacked me off and it went absolutely everywhere, and she laughed her ass off. No penetration, but still supercool. She told me she couldn't see me anymore because of the boyfriend. No problem.

Saturday night. Went to a great restaurant, The Idiot, with good vegetarian food. I figured that I should go to Marstall's at least once, to see what the deal was with this place. Let's just say, it was packed, I mean really packed, but I didn't see a single woman I would've taken home. That is, again, except for the awesome dancers. In a moment of temporary insanity, I slipped one of the dancers 20 euros in her garter, and she squealed, said balshoy spaseeba, then came and danced with me afterwards. Kind of a cool thing, in front of all the drunken tourists and flatheads. Then she was gone. Then Magrib, which was really happening. Met an amazing woman named Marina (8-9), who kissed me passionately in one of the booths inf ront of her less attractive girl friend, then agreed to meet me for lunch Sunday afternoon. By 3pm, we were in my apartment humping like bunnies. Awesome.

Sunday (tonight). Went to Magrib at about 12:30 am. Dead. There's nothing worse than loud techno playing while call girls dance on the floor by themselves to drum up business. But not a single girl that I would want to hook up with at all. One of the dancers, however, a 5'5 blonde with an amazingly hard body, was easily a 9.5. Really wanted a piece of that but never even got a chance to speak to her. In Las Vegas, I have often hooked up with dancers, particularly a Romanian girl from Sapphire, who became my girlfriend for two weeks last summer. Not here, it's a different dynamic. Had to split Magrib, so I came up here to CafeMax to write this report.

One thing I've not read too much on this board is all the potential meeting women during the afternoon. Yes, there are real beauties on Nevsky, but I think they are untouchable. Still, you just can't help but look, because some of them are really stunning. I decided to walk down Moskovsky Prospekt today, the full 10 km, and walked by some of the most paralyzingly beautiful women I have ever seen. One woman I passed was wearing hip huggers and a halter top and her not-too-visible abs showed through. Perfect 10. I got up the courage to play dumb tourist and we talked a while (her English was a little better than my Russian). She gave me a kiss on the cheek, but I admit I was too befuddled by her beauty to do anything. But potential, man, it is there, way down on Moskovsky, where it becomes suburbia.

Another prime spot was a park right next to (I can't remember the name) the Y-something cathedral. Lots of g-strings and topless women lying down. Sat down and talked up a couple of beauties who want to show me around on Tuesday. We'll see how that goes.

More later...

[Street Sleuth]

Zizz,

I am living in Saint Petersburg myself right now - been here for a few months.

The phrase-book problem you had - generally, the girls in Magrib, and similar locales, want to practice their English, so they don't want you to use a dictionary of any sort to speak Russian. They can be quite rude about this (I'm studying Russian, and have had plenty of such problems). I think I'd actually have more luck if I just gave up on speaking Russian, and played 'dumb tourist' as well.

Depending on how old you are (or on how young you like your women), you might try 'Metro Club'. You'll need to take a cab of some sort - a bit of a hike from Fontanka/Nevsky area. Any cab driver will know where it is. Only happening on Friday/Saturday nights, but, wow - the cutest 18-21 year old girls you'll find, anywhere. Given their age, you're not likely to score much more than some dancing and kissing, but that alone can be a bit of a thrill (then again, you may get luckier than me).

As for cabs - much cheaper to flag down private cars - regular cabs generally rip off tourists something awful.

[Speed Touch]

hey everyone,

i'm in spb right now. met a girl on nevky yesterday who offered me 1hr for 1000 rubles, so taxi to my place it was. bargain.

went to marstall last night. it was ok, but i never got lucky :-(. same hookers there from last year.

anyone in spb wants to go for a drink and monger let me know. planning to go to a club every night i'm here. i leave on sunday.

send me a pm and i'll send you my numbers if you are in spb.

speed touch

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[Ermano69]

Hi all,

Was last week in SPB, somehow disappointed, girls all over styled and to much dolled.

However main reason I am writing is the apartment. Got one through Roxana, very helpflu and good service. Once in the apartment it was ok, nothing special for € 85.00 a day. had to clean jaccuzzi first, find out it did not work, sheets on bed covered bed only half, but worst was the enterence to the apartment. I never saw such an ugly and stinky entrance. Junkies around, alcoholics, their was not light nothing. So be carefull and ask whenever possible a photo from the entrance, this really was an horrifying expericence.

Ermano

[CA Traveler]

e69... you've identified one of the biggest disappointments that people find when they go to a russian apartment. the apartment may be very nice, although what you described is inexcusable, but the entry may be disgusting.

the problem lies with the fact that when the ussr collapsed, people were allowed to "own" their apartments. so, in the subsequent years, in any given building some apartments have been renovated and remodeled to high standards and others are filled with babushkas with 60 years of accumulated junk. these babushkas are probably living on a pension which is next to nothing. so, if the owners of the upscale places try to get support from other apartment owners to remodel and/upgrade the entrance, they are met with scorn.

so, the entrances of many apartments which appear nice on the internet turn out to be rather disgusting. all you can hope for is a short-term apartment rental company that understands your concern and therefore take steps to only offer apartments with a reasonably clean and safe entrance.

you also identified one of my biggest pet peeves... bottom sheets that do not fit the bed. the worst thing in the world is to have a night of pleasure and the next thing you know you are rolling around on the bare mattress along with the friends of the last 100 guests at the apartment.... talk about unsafe sex! the russians seem not to have discovered fitted sheets and mattress covers! :)

fortunately not all russian apartments suffer from these problems...

in any case the reward is certainly worth the hassle, imho!

[Eros74]

Hi Gentlemen,

Please one of you know some good russian chats?

Thanks in advance.

Luca

[Speed Touch]

my experiences of spb last week. just walking around nevsky you see the mos amazing women and they wear next to nothing. if you know some russian it helps as usually the women do want to talk to you, but not so many know english :-(

i checked out a few erotic massage places first. 800r for 1 hour with a girl of your choice. usually a semi-erotic massage with hr at the end. these are in typical russian flats, so very dated.

next, i tried a few numbers i found on the net for intim services. the best one i found was 1500r for 1 hour. again choose the girl. this time the apartment was one of the best apartments i have seen. dark wood floors, sparkling bathrooom, stunning. the girl i chose was good, but she spoke no english. this place is near the technology institute metro. pm me if you want the number.

i tried another intim place near lennisky prospect. it was 1300r but it was such a run down apartment. the bathtub was rusty and smelled bad. the girls were ok, but it did not feel safe whatsoever.

went to marstall, chatted to the hookers to find out it was around 3500r for 2 hours - seemed to much so i ended up with a girl i chatted up. i went back to her apartment which seemed about 10miles out of town and spent the night with her.

i also went to club metro, but left after 1 hour as the girls seemed too young. either that, or i felt too old. give this one a miss.

speed touch

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[Street Sleuth]

I couldn't help but chime in on the apartment issues - first, the entrance and/or corridors are rancid, relative to the actual apartments, due to the fact that apartments are privately owned, but the common areas are still in the hands of the government.

In the U.S., and other western countries, the common areas are owned by a 'condo association' - basically, they common areas are owned collectively by the owners of the building. The associations have legal rights, and procedures, to enact policies, and force individual owners to go along whether they want to or not.

You can imagine, the government agencies in Russia, however, are little concerned with the condition of apartment building corridors.

As for the sheets - I've been here for several months, and still wake up almost every morning to a bare mattress. It is really driving me nuts. They can design/build nuclear bombs, but can't figure out how to size a sheet?! Oh well, we still sell hot dogs in packages of ten, and buns in packages of eight (or is it the other way around?).

[Just Do It]

Well I am back from pussy heaven to the desolate rural U.S.A. and damm I miss heaven. I spent 1 week in each of Kiev, Moscow, and St. Pete. General impression friendliest city and easiest to find amatures Kiev, Best selection and big city atmosphere Moscow, coolest city to be a tourist and still get laid St. Pete.

I arrived in St Pete from Moscow on the train, the fast train, this is a great way to travel. Was met at the station by Oksana's driver and taken to a great appartment on Nevsky. This place was great as was the service and about a hundred meters or less from Magrib.

I was a frist time visitor and wanted to do tourist stuff as well as monger. I used the internet to find a girl who wanted a free vacation and would serve as a tour guide but I did not tell her this. For me this was great I had true GFE with each of these girls and saved a ton of money on taxies, eating, and entrance fees and the best part was they were free. If you would like the details on how to do this see my posts under Kiev.

I used the first 5 days to play tourist scout out where to go and f*** like a rabbit with my tour guide. Then I sent her home and and did some serious mongering.

First was Marstall on friday night it was very good and a great selection. The opening bid from most girls was 5 or 6,000 rubels for all night. After 3 weeks in country I was patient waited and got that down to 4,000 for the night. She was dark hair and skin about 5'6" and maybe 110 lbs. All holes were used after a little discussion and a slap on the ass. Now even after this she curls up next to me sleeps like a baby and in the morning we do it again. Why the hell can we not find American girls like this?

Saturday was Magrib night and all I can say is WOW this place was packed after midnight with a selection that was just amazing! I ended up with a 19 yr old blond spinner that I wanted to stuff in my suitcase for the flight home. Cost was $120 american.

What I find truly amazing is not just the selection of young thin model like girls but how much these girls seem to enjoy sex! Where else in the world can you find this? If you take a little time and make sure they get off which they will rounds 2 and 3 or in the morning will be like nothing a typical American can find in the good ol U.S.A.

I am already planning next summers visit unless someone can tell me someplace else with girls like this and no I am not into Asians sorry.

If you need help with the internet guide thing read my Kiev posts before PMing me.

I really want to thank everyone here for sharing all the great info and helping me. I am sorry no pictures but next year I promise a new digital camera!

JDI

[Andy S]

Hi Gentlemen,

Please one of you know some good russian chats?

Thanks in advance.

Luca

www.sextalk.ru/chat

but first, you have to register and log onto site sextalk.ru

[Genuine]

I am trying to contact a girl I knew in St. Petersburg. I posted a few pictures of her in the photo gallery. Last I knew she was living in St. Petersburg, but the mobile number I had for her is not working now. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[Andy S]

I am trying to contact a girl I knew in St. Petersburg. I posted a few pictures of her in the photo gallery. Last I knew she was living in St. Petersburg, but the mobile number I had for her is not working now. Any help would be appreciated.


Give me the link to the photos and her mobile phone number you have. If this is a working pros. 99% that there is some info about her in Russian forums...

[Eros74]

Andy S,

I tried as you suggested me sextalk.ru and mail.ru,in sex talk only 10-14 persons every time I was there, in mail.ru, yes many rooms but it feels as you right told me very young people and a little racism against the persons in chat writing english or every language but the Russian.

So I am still searching for a good chat where to meet normal russian women.

Luca

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[Mike #3]

Lukasek

You can also try omen.ru.

But again, not many girls speak English.

You can also try to email instead of chat, so you have some more time to translate.

[Eros74]

Mike #3

I tryed omen.ru, even less people than in sextalk.ru, but thanks for advice.

Luca

[Doctor_Skank]

If anybody out there wants to go clubbing/trawling this week/weekend Sep 8-14 kindly drop me a line via PM. Thanks!

[Tokyo via AA]

I've read months' worth of reports here, and appreciate all the research. Clearly have some clubs in mind for night time in St.P. But what about during the day? No Moscow-style Tochkas.... are there any decent daytime options? I know, I should just spend the time touring the "other" sights there are to see.

[Eros74]

Ciao Gentlemen,

finally I went to beloved Russia for my second time, 10 days in Piter, amazing, funny, simply unforgettable!

1st day:

I choose Aeroflot, even if on plane was writting Pulkovo, cheaper and just curios to try it. The first and the last time: the food was ****, the hostess old women with noone little smile for 3 and half hours, not possible to put the troller, little baggage not above me but under my chair and so little chair, when it takes off near me was the exit door and start to drip..it was the first time I felt no sure in airplane, for 40 euro more I could have Austrian Airlines that I tryed for Msk, next time surely no doubt!

I arrived on airport and after half hour I was in my flat, I went to buy Megafon sim karta for mobile phone, I cooked spaghetti to try to feel as home in this town LOL, then I met with the first girl I knew in chat, she was normal, nice and we met in front of Magrib.

We went to Magrib to talk for about 1 hour, she was interested and asking non stop about Italy and noone questions about me, I smiled myself cause i realized immediately my first meeting it was only a waste of time and money, but who cares? Many, many nice women in Magrib, I looked to them and answering about the weather here and some very interesting, for me, questions..LOL!

Then she went home and I really wanted to go out for walk, I red here about SW in Nevksy Prospect, so time was about 3:00 am a little late and much tired but no desire to go sleep alone, I walked to Moscow station and then to stary Nevsky, about 10-12 SW, the price was about 2.000 for one hour, one told me 5.000 rubles for 2 hour with anal. Not expensive but surely they recognized me as foreign so surely overpriced me, I came back to Moscow station and I took a privat car for 200r and we came back to my apartment 200m from Nevsky, then I asked to driver to try to call some girls, most of them, or better, of the address he had didn't want to come to my flat. After about 15-20m he found and arranged for 2 girls, started raining as almost every day of my holiday and finally some minutes before dawn arrived a car with 2 girls inside, they wanted 2.000 rubles for 1 hour each and not possible anal or uncovered bj, they were about rate 5, so I said no thanks and went to sleep more angry than the driver!

2nd day:

The day started wonderful, I met with my 2 friends from California at noon, I met one of them in Msk in january and we have really great great fun, they used Aereoflot too and they lose the plane from Msk to Piter cause Aereoflot had 5 hours of delay, they also agreed no more Aereflot. We went for a walk to Nevksy where everyday many many girls so nice!

I bought Viagra, it was my first time, (read my report in Viagra section), in one of the many Pharmacy of Nevsky for one pill 100mg 600rubles, it was funny cause I really was shy to ask for it, after me 2 young women and about 3-4 persons, but nobody seems to care or to be surprised for guy buyiing Viagra even if one of 2 girls smiled for a while, however very good have it without prescription. I went home and broked in about 10-12 little pieces Viagra, I took one.

Then finally time to started have really fun, we went to a saloon near Nevsky that knew my friend, there were 3 women, 2 brunettes and 1 blond; the blond for me was about 9, really nice with amazing body, (see her fotos in photo section), I took her for one hour 1.500 rubles, much better than SW!

Her name was Viktorie, even if she didn't wanted to join me in shower, for me not a nice sign of her attitude, then she was really friendly, the kind hardly you find in flat-sex, she didn't wanted kiss each toher and anal, but no problem, she was so sweet or for a while I felt in love for her body and her sunny-smile. she gave me a good bj, and I immediately told her I wanted 69, luckily she allowed me LOL, her pussy was so beautiful with the kind of big lips I love, she enjoyed it and I asking to myself why I waited so long time to came back to Russia.

Missionarie, doggie style, missionarie on her left side touching soflty her clitoris, she was so nice with close eyes. Wow! Then I put off my condom and cum on her breasts happy as a child LOL!

We had each other a shower and she allowed me some pics, but when I started she changed idea so I did not many.

I felt nothing from Viagra, surely I took for fear of first time too little piece.

My second friend took first brunette and told me good too, the third not liked the third woman and was tired and went home.

Then walked back to flat it was everything nice, it arrived sun too, smoking slowly cigarettes and speaking with my friend how is gorgeous Russia, unbelievable hour for only 1.500 rubles and only the second day of my holiday!

The evening all 3 we went to Marstall, friendly place, most pro, I was really still horny, I spoke with 3 girls they wanted from 100 usd to 150 euro, but all 3 not all night long and if there's a thing I loved in Msk was tochka for all night long, so i said no even cause not possible to have in afternoon a girl really nice for 1.500 rubles and then going to pay so much for girls that in Marstal were about average 6,5!! So I enjoyed the music dancing until about 4 in the morning then went to sleep very happy for the memory of Viki in afternoon not sure for Marstall.

3nd day:

Saturday I met with one girl, from chat, and her friend in Jurnalist restaurant near Magrib, we spoke for few hours, the first date is always for me boring, you are going to pay when is quite sure you will have nothing mainly is she came with a friend. Then I walk as I did every day along Nervsky and then to flat cook for pasta and drinking good wine I took from home.

I met in evening with Stella, if somebody is interesting write me pm and I will give you her phone number and e mail: she was nice, and interested to have long term relation ship but I was too horny cause the wine that after few hours of speaking I started to kiss her, she enjoyed it, but then I tryed to take her home, I knew I did a big mistake going so fast, but however we stay together from 19h to 2am, but at 2am she told me not!

I was sure I lost her, cause I let her understood I didn't want with her nothing seriously even if she was smart too and pay never nothing and, this really surprised me, never say noone little thank! We went to Jakitorya restaurant, Tribunal to disco cause I told her I had, and it was true, to met with my friend. Tribunal was so slow, empty, so sad place, some pro but little old and noone really nice, for sure the worst place I was!

I saw the open bridge on Neva, during the white nights with sun light is have to be really very nice view; then I went walking home, it takes me about 1 hour of walking but I love to walk and to think by myself feeling always safe in Piter.

Soon the next report.

[Eros74]

4th day:

It was sunday, nothing happens I went with my friends to private in afternoon, I took noone girl but he did and in the evening I met for a while with Stella, with her was really sad meeting, we spoke only a few and then I went home and went to sleep really early.
Not good moon from my side.

5th day:

Monday new week, I was used to wake up every day later, in the afternoon we tryhed to call one private, the girl told me ulica marskaya and I understood, I speak only little russian, ulica moskvoskaya, so we went to wrong street and I had to call her many times to understood my mistake, cause i thought my mistake was only not able to find right flat not to be so far from the right street.
However we found 2 girls, one very nice brunette and one blond so and so. I took blond cause she was in anal, I paid 2.500 rubles for one hour and she was really friendly, after asking some times i had also uncovered bj, anal was very funny, she had really tight ass and seem to like it.

Evening Marstall, not many people but it was monday and I was happy for afternoon.

6th day:

Tuesday afternoon we walked to Nevsky, always nice view in this street and I think it could be not difficult to know girls there but I am pretty shy guy so I did nothing and waiting for evening when we went to Red Lion, close to Tribunal where it was free lady champagne, it means one of the best disco I saw, many contact eyes and many normal girls. I spoke with Varya we changed our phone number, we danced, and finally about 3am we went to privat known by my friend near Moscow station.

There were 12, yes 12, girls I took one for 2 hours for 2 or 2.200 rubles, she was about 7 rate but really sweet that we started to french kiss in taxi after few minutes we saw for the first time. Natascia her name and I ask her for anal she agree for 1.000 rubles more. What can I say? I really love this women from privat about 7-8 as rate, they are so sweet, the most closer to girlfriend experinece, so cheap, so easy.

I post her foto in photo gallery.

7th day:

Wednsday was really nice and funny day cause I met with Doctor Skank and Ricardo Cabro, Ricardo had to work the day before and he was tired for the travel so he stayed out not for long time but with Doc we met in Marstall, not so nice evening only few persons, and immediately we left for Magrib, the best club for the beauty of her girls.

I talked a lot with Doc, we shared experiences and we agreed in many things; I went home alone but if I remember well Doc didn't LOL!

[Doctor_Skank]

doc_skank and the white shoes: a tale of tails.

about two years ago during a homecoming trip to the us, i inexplicably fell in love with a pair of white leather shoes. beautifully crafted in italy, i was delighted with the shoes. proudly i stowed them away in my closet waiting for an opportunity to let them out, to let them ostentatiously beam in all their glory and bestow upon me the jealous glances of all those clad in non-white shoes. but alas, i had grossly miscalculated the frequency of opportunity i would have to show off my newly acquired purchase, not to mention the relative courage required to wear them, and alas², my white shoes would collect dust. at least they would have if they weren't stowed away deep in my closet. which they were. until last week.

last week, my white shoes were successfully revealed to the russian public in a much-celebrated moscow premiere.

the shoes were an instant success.

not only did i effortlessly breeze by face control goons too cowardice to stop someone so confidently wearing white leather shoes, they also brought me luck. by chance i met a long-lost old girlfriend named alexandra together with her lesbian girlfriend masha on pushkin square. perhaps meeting two lesbian girls on pushkin square is not so eventful in itself, however alexandra is a former model with runway experience in milan and paris, not to mention numerous magazine covers in moscow and her girlfriend masha a club dj. good people to know. that story goes in another direction, not less interesting, as i gained access to moscow's elite lesbian scene. scoff you do? moscow's elite lesbians aren't really lesbian. they're bisexual. scoff you shouldn't.

so the white shoes were paying off. so much so, that i wore them every day.

but this isn't a story about moscow nor even about white leather shoes, but rather about st.petersburg.

pt.1: magrib double team

now i have had my problems with st.pete in the past. despite a grudging repect for the beautiful architecture and the undeniably beautiful female populace, i had never really enjoyed the p4p scene there. ever since the once amazingly ho-laden hollywood nights disco went defunct (one time shortly after the financial crash two girls actually fought over me on the dance floor... the cute one won) and golden dolls metamorphisized from a sultry erotic mecca (a place were a few exaggerated boasts and a smile could get you to meet strippers after hours for "tea" and a "tour of the city". i met one girl by claiming to be a cnn reporter and i told another i was formula one driver and playboy eddie irvine.. lol) into a classic rip-off joint, i had not found much happiness in the arms of st.petes finest ladies. the marstalls stable is definitely hit and miss with mostly misses and i personally have never been happy at tribunal. saunas seem a very reasonable and attractive option (as detailed most recently by lukasek...thanks), but my schedule has never really allowed it... nighttime i prefer to go elsewhere.

btw: the golden dolls remont seems finished... hoping to hear positive news again from this place... mongering public, research please!

on this wednesday night in st.pete i was brimming with confidence. not only did i have my sex-magnet white shoes, i also had about 9000 rubles ($300) in my pocket since my mongering budget was left unrep001hed due to the above mentioned lucky circumstances of my moscow trip. very little could go wrong. even if they hated my white leather shoes in st.petersburg, i was still definitely going to get laid.

not only was i confident and rested, i was also in a very good mood, as i was due to meet lukasek at marstalls. and i had primed myself with music in my apartment. i enjoy using music to set my mood. today's selection was n.e.r.d. "fly or die" and it put me into a particularly sexually aggressive, fun and confident mood... which is exactly what was required for the evening.

we met at marstalls by default and left after a single somewhat tasty beer. arriving at magrib on nevsky prospekt (across from the corinthia nevsky palace hotel...which is sometimes refered to erroneously as the sheraton), i knew we had come to the right place. a good mix of russians enjoying a night out, a sprinkling of noticeable pros, some expats and a lot of girls were drinking at the bars, getting cozy in the various booths and tables and shaking it on the dancefloor. it seems like they were trying out a new dj as the usual guy wasn't working but rather just milling around chatting up girls, but the new guy was doing a fine job.

at some point (and after a rather caustic ersatz-red bull with double vodka) i spotted a girl that i thought i recognized. strolling over to her, i chatted her up, and even though i realized instantly that it wasn't my old friend, i still asked "ti dasha?" to which she replied "net" and turned away. she wasn't getting away this easy however, as i had already selected her to relieve my carnal desires. lucky girl.

no, she wasn't going to escape. at this point my white shoes must have been too tight, because i still naively thought she was an amateur. so i laid into one of my 7 standard routines. i am flexible in this of course as one must always be (go with the flow, right vegamars?), but when chatting up a girl in a foreign language in which i only possess average skills, i cannot be too selective in the initial conversational subject matter, the point is to get your foot (or cock) in the door. so i selected the "let's meet tomorrow and take pictures" approach, thinking that since she was non-pro (my false assumption) i didn't want to be too aggressive and scare her off and that if things didn't work out tonight with her i could still meet her for a second date the next day... and tonight i still had the failsafe marstalls and tribunal options, not to mention some of the salons that lukasek had told me about.

but i was smitten. she was about 5'4" (162cm) and slender, with short brunette hair highlighted with blonde streaks. she wore light colored fairly tight jeans and had a bare hardbody midriff, revealing a swarovski belly jewel (a good club dyev gift by the way, available on aeroflot duty free). her breasts were discreetly covered so that i couldn't really get a look, but that wasn't of consequence, as i was entirely focused on her face and eyes. she had crystal blue slightly oriental eyes... not of the central asian kind, but of the scandanavian kind iykwim, like estonian or swedish girls sometimes have. unbelievably beautiful.

well at some point she commented (she spoke nil english) somewhat increduously "menya fotografaet, besplatno?" (take pictures of me, without paying??) and i realized she was in the game. i wasn't disappointed, as i still had my wad of cash.

i pretended not to understand and she told her friend to come over to explain/translate. her friend was cute, but not really my type. (later she would turn out to be my type...everybody's type!) she was also short, but blonde and slightly stocky. i normally wouldn't have selected her. nonetheless, she had a cute friendly face and spoke average to poor english... basically the level of my russian. i asked the usual questions "iz pitre? kak tebya zavut? shto ti delaesh? vi studentki?" etc. turns out vika and lena were their names, vika from pitr and the blonde from siberia. as always, their names and places of birth may or may not be true... pros often give false information initially as we all know. it is irrelevant anyway.

the conversation progressed and i said that i wanted to take vika home, making myself very clear that i was totally infatuated with her. the two girls spoke briefly and the blonde one said that i would have to take both of them, they wouldn't go alone. what a shame i thought.
i faux-pondered it while we briefly discussed price and settled on $150. after the price was settled it was like flipping a switch... the girls became super excited and the little blonde even jumped up and down briefly, like she had won a stuffed animal at the local county fair. so i cut to the chase and said "davai". i briefly said bye to lukasek (who was standing by the dance floor) on the way out, who smiled and shook my hand for luck and i strutted out with the two girls in tow, gathering some coy smiles from the security guys and the taxi drivers outside as i proudly walked hand in hand with both of the girls. outside, we haggled with the taxi driver over price, even as i am sure he was thinking "why does two-girled white-shoe man need taxi, two-girled white-shoe man deserves helikopter!". hell, i would've even taken a helicopter, just as long as it wasn't one of those mi-8s that are always* crashing into the neva.

*relatively speaking.

we stopped at a 24 chasa kiosk for champagne, grapes and cigarettes (i hadn't had time to stock the fridge) and were off to my pad.

the entire trip there i was making out with both girls as one of them (sorry, i don't remember which) was stroking my already hard cock and i had shoved my hand down the back of the other ones pants, fingering her ass. lord knows why i was doing that, but it seemed like the thing to do.

the taxi driver, who looked vaguely like sex-maniac (respect!) english football coach sven-goran eriksson, was thoroughly enjoying the show through the rear view mirror, even as the windows of the volga cab steamed up to the point that the city appeared to be covered in some inexplicable 2am fog.

back at the pad the girls instantly disappeared into the bathroom and locked the door behind them... "damn" i thought. they are going to lez out in there and i'll be left out here alone with grapes and champagne...and my beautiful white shoes!

even as they disappeared, i strategically placed the condoms (i had optimistically bought a 12-pack earlier that day) next to the bed and made my musical selection. i was still full of energy, so i selected a dj keiko remix album with 18 remixed tracks of various club hits ranging from felix da housecat to benno benassi. fairly upbeat stuff, properly suited for power fucking.

remember that scene in "black hawk down" when the first helicopter goes down after being hit by a rocket and general garrison (i think) says "we just lost the initiative?". well that is what briefly happened to me. but in a nice way.

like 2 rpg rockets these two girls came out of the bathroom like a shot and slammed into me, their naked skin still glowing from a hot shower and warm and slightly wet to the touch... the girls were smiling broadly as they attacked me and i nearly fell back on the bed. still reeling from the incredible appearance of vika's slightly bulbuous perfect breasts bouncing as she charged towards me, the blonde tackled me and they both tore off my clothes, the blonde stuffing my cock into her mouth and sucking me slowly as vika peeled off my pullover.

my mother never told me there would be days like this...

we collapsed together on to the bed and it was a whirlwind flash of passionate three way kissing, groping, fondling and moaning. loud moaning. i really didn't know what hit me, but even as my music selection droned on in the background, the air in my apartment filled with the sultry essence of sweat and the sensual sounds of suckling lips, moans and squeals.

at this point i had recovered somewhat and regained the initiative, even though i allowed the girls a lot of room to interact with each other and me. they were doing such a great job that i didn't want to tor**** their mojo. they were in the flow. while blondie started on my cock again, vika was laying slightly perpindicular to me, across my chest. we were kissing passionately... real sex. her body position allowed me access to her beautiful smoothly shaped ****. both girls were shaved absolutely bare and had done a good job... probably just a minute ago in the bathroom... because there was no stubble whatsover. as my hand slid towards her box she spread her legs and i guided a finger into her, past her ever so slightly protruding soft pussy lips into her snatch. she was tight. very tight. and wet.

i was extremely turned on and blondie started reaching for a condom. not a chance baby. i ejected vika off of me and in a deft gymnastic move that probably should have broken my back (or scored a 9.8 in the olympics), i propelled blondie up on to my face, her legs spread wide so i could get a good look at that snatch before diving in. no, i was going to enjoy this to the utmost, fucking would come later. turns out blondie was much better built than i had originally thought. even though vika's slender curvy body and skinny (but not bony) ass was more my personal taste, blondie's solid ass and perfect skin were fantastic. she was in extremely good shape, and her mid-sized tits were perfectly shaped and formed.

i began to lick her pussy, suckling and moaning as i did so. she had since grabbed the bedframe behind me had (which she was facing) and was shaking the whole bed as she screamed and moaned, arching her head back in a poltergeist-esque maniacal thrashing as i ate her out. all the while my hand was banging vika's pussy from behind as she sucked my dick. after a while... a long while... i just had to taste vika's pussy so i went at it with her, the two essentially switching positions with each other. the interaction between the two was great, they traded kisses and occassionally licked each other, or did dual work on my cock... smiling and enjoying themselves the whole time. i the honest impression that they were really enjoying themselves.

the girls also were into each other and finally, after a truly prolonged foreplay session, i decided to move in for a poke. i first pounced on the blonde, sliding into her while in missionary position and then throwing her legs over my shoulders. i ruthlessly thrashed her, squeezing her ass and providing her with intermittent kisses and an occasional breast squeeze while rodding her deep. she was writhing and moaning, her body straining together with mine, occasionally bucking in spastic loss of control. she was screaming out in english "i love you so much! i love you so much!", throwing her hand in front of her eyes and after a relatively short time she began uttering some incomprehesible mini-scream that dragged on for 20 seconds or so. vika sat up looking slightly shocked at her friends ecstacy and looked at me and gave me a coy smile as i pounded her. finally i switched girls, pulling slowly out of panting blondie and roughly grabbing vika, swinging her around like a rag doll and pulling her towards me. blondie was sitting up now on the other end of the bed and as i passionately kissed vika i admired the perfection of her nude body underneath me. she gazed up at me wantonly as i softly clutched her breast... switching the speed of my sexaul assault for effect. i slowed... trying to gather sexual chemistry between us, to raise the level of eroticism. it worked. the atmosphere changed and i could feel her tension and excitement rise as i prepared for entry, my rock hard cock lingering in front of her hole, which seemed somehow impossibly small. grabbing my tool with my left hand and supporting myself with my right arm, i guided myself slowly into her. she was tight, very tight. as i slid into her, i gently moved my rod up and down the entrance of her pussy, wetting the tip of my condomed penis and slowly sliding in. she yelped.... and as i slid into her and began rhythmically moving her yelps became screams. the visual image of looking down at myself impaling this girl, her eyes wide with excitement and her hands clutching my biceps as i supported myself above her and my hard tool slides into her shaved bare pussy, her pussy lips tightly embracing my rod, still excites me.

i increased the tempo and proceeded to fuck her in a fashion similar to blondie and vika began screaming really loud. i thought i was killing her. the neighbors must have hated me. meanwhile blondie was stroking my back and even tried to finger my a-hole, but i gently brushed her hand away... i am not into that, but i appreciate her effort to try to please me. vika became panted and out of breath at some point (how i kept going i don't know) and i slowed, drawing out of her. she said something like "mne bolna" (i hurt) and i said i was sorry, i would be more gentle next time. she smiled and gulped slightly, her face flushed and her heart racing.

we had been going at it well over an hour (the cd was ending) and i decided to switch the mood, putting in "death in vegas", a syntho-pop ambient sound with electronica and psychoodelic undertones. it created an erotic atmosphere lacking the aggression of before, but i needed a change...as not only had i thoroughly pummeled these girls, i had also exhausted myself to a good degree. i lit another set of candles, opened a bottle of champagne and took a sip or two, toasting the girls. i think they thought they were done, but i was still visibly hard and motioned for blondie to flip over so i could fuck her from behind. she looked at me astonished and said "yescho?" (more?) and i said a simple "da". i told her to eat out vika while i was doing it. so now vika is lying on her back while blondie was on all fours, licking vikas pussy slowly as i, standing in the room at the edge of the bed, slid into blondie from behind. it was a slow monumental fuck... the sounds of the music (set at slightly lower volume), the dim lighting of the candles and the slurping sounds of me sliding in and out of blondies's pussy and blondie's tongue flicking over vika's tiny pussy, combined with vika's soft moans and my gentle pants, created a completely different atmosphere than that of before, which was characterized by the wildly creaking bed, vika's banshee like screams and blondies wild moaning and enthusiastic abandon. clutching blondie's firm ass with one hand, i fingered her ass a bit with the other before slowing and deciding to come... but not with blondie, but rather with vika. i told blondie i wanted vika and blondie sat down on a chair, sipping champagne while i prepared to remount vika. vika looked worried..."mne bolna" (i hurt) she repeated with distress in her eyes... i assured her i would be careful and slow... which i was. i reentered her...she yelped again... but softer... and i rhythmically fucked her slowly, kissing her passionately in between thrusts... she began to moan softly and clutch me tighter... i collapsed on her and we clutched each other tightly, continuing for sometime as blondie eagerly (and perhaps jealously) watched... before i finally came with a few final powerful yet gently controlled thrusts, staring into vika's wide open excited eyes, panting in rhythym with another. supporting myself above her but still inside her, i panted slowly and stared at her, she clutched my arms and back without letting go and we simply stared into one another's eyes for several moments. in these few moments we were the only two people in the universe... we had entered sexual nirvana. it was silent in the room (at least i wasn't hearing the music) and finally after some time i heard blondie question her friend cautiously ... "vika?"

we remained still. after another few seconds of pause, i slid out of her and went to wash up. the evening slowly ended... all three of us spent. as i sent them out (i had to work the next day and needed "real" sleep) we kissed and i gave them 5000 rubles, about $170. blondie said "i love you so much!" and vika smiled as she touched me and said "ti superman".

i felt like it.

gfe? a night like that explodes any conceptual notion of what gfe is for me. i have no idea what that was. it was more than gfe. it was raw passionate sex. for money. and it was wonderful. nights like that make me forget the average performers and keep me in the game. in the hunt. those who have been there, and i trust and hope many of us mongers have, know what i am talking about.

it was on par with some of the very best nights i have had, including one incredible girl from cf that i never saw again and suspect was a true freelancer, there to earn perfume money and not a regular. perhaps the same was true of these two. i haven't seen them since.

but i'll be wearing the white shoes again sometime soon.

[OttoGraham]

Are you a staff writer for Penthouse Forum, doc?

I am green with envy, you dog.

Two thumbs up! (And I know where you'd put them!)

-Uncle Otto

[CA Traveler]

doc... and photos will be appearing soon?

Great report, but only one question... Did you wear the freaking white shoes in the rack? OR, was the glow from the closet enough to sprinkle pixie dust on the girls?

[Tokyo via AA]

Doc,

Just to clarify, 5000 rubles for the both of them? or 5000 each (which wouldn't make sense, since you said you had only 9000).

[Eros74]

8th day:

Thursday started very good with sun day, breakfast with honey and bread..at noon as usually, lol, in the afternoon I went to sauna for the first time and it was so unique experience that I will post soon a detailed report about it with some pics.

At evening I knew I had to meet with Doctor_Skank again, me and my friends went to Jakitorya, very good Japanese restaurant and then we went to Rossi's disco where there were real many nice girls. After about one hour my friend went to sleep and I enjoy the strip show of Rossi's, real high quality of show, or maybe she was too cute to pay attention if she danced well or not.

People started to went home, disco was less crowded when Doc arrived and joined me and for me it was a pleasure to hunt with him; we immediately started to "attack" the girls...ehm, I think I have to explain it better: Doc was always the first went to speak and to know the girls, I just followed him, I am pretty shy guy but surely he knew do it better than me, not only cause he speak Russian but also cause he choose so cute women, so I was happy to trust and follow him!
After some talking with girls he saw a really very cute blond sit down at table with other 2 girls, we went there and we spoke with these girls for about half hour, they were really friendly and happy to speak with westerners; then we went to dancefloor where after while arrived also the girls. We dance all together and there was really fun cause we enjoyed the dancing and the music without thinking if we had truly chance to sleep with these girls or not.

However when we came back to table for drink, a woman, little brunette asked me if I wanted to dance with her, she really surprised me a lot cause I never seen her before in dance floor or had eye contact with her and cause I was speaking with one of the three Doc knew, but I danced with her and then I invited her for a drink. after some minutes of talking Doc joined us, I say luckily cause my english is not so good specially when I am little drunk, lol, and it was funny cause at the beginning seem enough clear that the girl was in trouble without decide between me or Doc. It was funny and quite strange and when she went to toilet I immediately spoke with Doc asking for what to do, cause the last thing I want to do is to risk to break a friendship between two men for have sex with the same girl.

It happens often all around the world but it is so stupid cause you can buy sex but friendship never!

And now I have to say that Doc was the real Gentlemen I knew from his reports here in this forum cause he immediately told me and suggested me to invite her to my flat ( and this not cause she wasn't nice enough, even if she wasn't a knock out, she was a type of girl you absolutely don't want to miss cause so sweet and tenderness), I did it, but she at first moment agreed and then she told me I don't know; Doc spoke with her and then told me she still didn't decide with who go to sleep.

I was tired, drunk and I really didn't enjoy that situation, it means: I never had good opinion of every woman not able to choose between two men and most of all I had the bad feeling she really enjoyed that situation of two men "fighting" for her.

So I am pretty sure I deeply suprised her and perhaps little disappointed too cause no fight, no problem, I said her thanks for the dance with a big smile as if immediately I realized I had a naked top model waiting in my bedroom: obviously I hadn't but my only problem it was not a disappointed Doc or to dispute or wrangle with him (and this is ALWAYS a quite sure risk when there is one woman that enjoy this situation and both of guys are horny as young bulls LOL!)

So I wish good luck to my new friend and I immediately left Rossi's without look at her; what happened to them I will let Doc, if he wants, to write about it, I had only one problem, to find a top model to have sex at 6:00am and an impossible mission in my sex prison at home is so easy mission in Russia.

Tania, I post right now her pics in foto gallery, she wasn't cute but she very good filled up my need to have some orgasms: the really only need I had after a very nice night of real fun, hunting, drinking and joking with a great guy, cause always sex is what we are all looking for but sometimes not the most important thing.

[Eros74]

9th and 10th days:

The last 2 days I had sauna every day, I met with Doc and with my other 2 friends as well and we went on friday to Money Honey, nice but nothing more, Rossi's nice but not so good as thursday and both days we finished to Magrib that seem to be the place to go in Piter.

I had sex in sauna on friday and in privat in saturday afternoon and sunday early morning and I will post this with foto soon.

However I had to say I was a little sad in my last 2 days of holiday, maybe I could have more fun but simply my mind felt at home 2 days before my body went there lol.

[Doctor_Skank]

Day 2 of the Shoes.

I stumbled through most of the Thursday in a pair of black Ted Baker shoes, fashionable in their own right, but lacking the flamboyant eroticism of my white shoes. Nonetheless, after a busy work day I found myself at some secret location in an underground club called "Mafia Club". Supposedly secret and exclusive, this is really just a club where a game is played in which 10 players and a moderator try to determine which 3 of the ten are mafia and which are citizens. Thankfully I didn't have to play, but rather sat at another table while we waited for our turn. I did enjoy the stay nonetheless, as seated at the table next to me was a squeaky-voiced 46kg blonde spinner who, even as she told me of her planned wedding to someguy somewhere she was massaging my cock under the table. I slid my hand far enough up her skirt to feel the moist heat of her twat and may have even pursued this farther if she hadn't been an employee of one of my business partners, seated across from us... with 8 other business associates. Besides that, I wasn't feeling entirely confident without my white shoes. So rather than maneuver myself into a inextracatable situation, I made a somewhat legitimate excuse to leave (work the next day) and got up from the table, barely concealing my hard-on as I made my way for the door to the street to catch a taxi.

I jetted home, showered and changed quickly, playing an aggressive track or two from a "Korn" album to put me in a proper mood before heading out for Rossi's Club.

Rossi's is essentially behind Gostviny Dvor in a side street, but not particularly easy to find, so taking a taxi is recommended. I walked, and while walking I passed 2 streetwalkers who were working Sadovaya ulitsa. A couple of cars even slowed or stopped to check them out. Didn't look all that special though.

Like Magrib, Rossi's is in a cellar and a mid-sized club with a single dancefloor. The crowd was quite good on this Thursday night, and a subsequent visit on Friday would determine that the Thursday night crowd was actually the better crowd.

The attending public was noticeably younger than Magrib and in fact the first three girls I spoke to seemed younger than the 18 they claimed to be and I quickly left them for other pursuits. It was a pleasure to meet Lukasek again and we enjoyed ourselves tremendously, drinking a beer (or three) and if I recall correctly, a single tequila. I do make a point to say we never really got drunk during our adventures, as keeping your wits about you is not only smart safety-wise, but does make you a more effective hunter. Unless of course you are at Real McCoy in Moscow where sober people are generally and rightfully shunned and being properly bombed has never hindered my success, perhaps only my judgement.

Soon we found three blonde girls standing alone and began a conversation, I am not sure what we talked about, but that was irrelevant. I think I went off on a tirade about how much I love Russia, which is true, and I saw the pleasure in their eyes as I propelled their country to the forefront of my cultural respect. The previous night's unforgettable double team from Magrib had further increased my appreciation of this country in a manner I cannot properly explain. Soon we were on the dance floor, Lukasek with his blonde and me with mine. Having not even exchanged 20 words with her yet (she didn't speak any English) I pulled her close to me and sensing her willingness, we began to kiss passionately on the dance floor, vaguely moving to the rhythym to at least maintain some semblance of social behavior and avoid blocking the dance floor and avoid interrupting the pleasure of club revellers.

After our dancing orgy with the two blondes, Lukasek and I had a brief staff meeting in which we were both receiving vibes from the girls that kissing and flirting were all good, but a one night stand wasn't likely at all. I think the third wheel, sitting depressed at a table now, was cramping our style. It may be better to expand our horizons and seek other options we thought. And of course there is always the failsafe.

At some point Lukasek had been accosted by a girl and taken to the dancefloor while I chatted up a rather depressed recent divorcee who, as chance would have it, was the girlfriend of Lukasek's new girl.

I soon abandoned the depressed divorcee to her own melancholy and seeing Lukasek, joined an interesting conversation with the short haired brunette. She was a very pretty lady for her age... she was 36 and well-maintained. She was also very intelligent and the conversation was genuinely interesting. So much so that I briefly forgot that I was trying to get laid. At some point things get hazy here though, as a weird situation developed in which the club was slowing and we were all determined to take someone home. I really didn't feel like activating the failsafe at this point and the three blondes had since left. Mind you I did make an effort to get mine to come home with me, but it was a no go. She said she had a "problem" to work out first. As it turned out, she never did work out her problem and we didn't meet again. I am not sure if her problem was named was Sergey, Pavel or even Tampax. Fine by me though, as I have a zero tolerance girlfriend policy in St.Pete, as having girlfriends in a city carries as many disadvantages with it as advantages.

As detailed in Lukasek's report, the new short-haired brunette was interested in us both but she couldn't decide. I even offered the double team, which she balked at. I offered to take her depressed friend home instead and told her to go with Lukasek. She wasn't sure. I told her she'd better fu*#ing make up her mind as it was getting late and I didn't want to be up all night. I think she made a practical decision however and realizing that she would likely see me again as I am in Russia regularly and Lukasek is not, she decided to go with me. As Lukasek detailed in his report, I am in total agreement with him that a woman should never create conflict between two friends and I was totally prepared to go home alone happy if she had gone with him. As it turned out good for me, I thank him for his chivalry.

Nonetheless, SOMEBODY had to fuck her and I was lucky enough to be that guy. And she did say (I am seriously not joking) just before we left "Those are really beautiful white shoes".

Back at the pad I cleaned out her pussy cobwebs with my prod and must say it wasn't a bad thrashing at all. She did enjoy the attention and I even spared her the medieval power fuck treatment and set the musical tone at a more sensual level, playing (ironically) the "Lost in Translation" soundtrack instead, providing a more subtle sexual ambience. I may see her again someday, as she very well understands that it is a sex and coffee relationship only, which is fine by me. As I am in my "all Slavic female (within reason of course) appreciation" phase, I did appreciate her very much.

Here she is all curled up and satisfied.

Judging from Lukasek's Tania pictures, he may have gotten the better part of the deal anyway...

[Doctor_Skank]

Tokya via AA:

I paid 5000 rubles total. The deal was $150 for both and since I only had rubles and Euros, I elected to pay 4500 rubles ($150) for the deed and give each 250 ($8) rubles for taxi and tip.

[Doctor_Skank]

Day 3: Dirty shoes

I was already more than pleased with St.Pete and after last nights freebie I was more than happy to select a pro on this night. Of course I would try to get some free action first, but there was no desperation in my intention.

This would turn out to be a whirlwind night in which I am really not exactly sure of the precise course of events. I vaguely remember working that day, as well as exchanging an SMS or two with Svetlana The Blonde I Would Not Meet and the 36 year old Armenian girl from Rossis the night previous.

After a brief meeting with a Russian friend of mine I learned that the night before he had been attacked by 3 guys and clubbed with a baseball bat. As luck would have it, the baseball bat guy wasn't much of a slugger and thankfully missed my friend's tee-ball head, instead just knocking him to the ground. My friend proceeded to knock baseball guy unconscious for a few moments before being jumped by the other two and being beaten and kicked into dreamland himself. My friend miraculously survived and the 3 fled, stealing only his camera and not his life. When the militia arrived 3 hours later they astonishingly asked him deadpan and without any hint of sarcasm:

"Why did you call us? You are still alive and can walk! We only come to pick up the dead and crippled."

Turns out my friend had been jumped by a gang of three that are well known in St.Pete and had already killed a few people, stealing whatever cash and goods they could. So do be careful out there when walking around after midnight. This happened in central St.Pete in a dimly lit area about 1 km off of Nevsky. The only reason my friend is alive and without anything more than superficial damage is because he is tough as nails, lucky, blessed and any combination of the three.

Shaken not stirred and somehow inspired by my friend's story I bought him a couple of beers to sooth his aching bones and then went home to change into my standard club outfit for this trip... the white shoes and this time a Hilfiger pullover. I am not necessarily a label guy, but wearing designer label clothes in Russia does pay off occassionally. Not only do girls notice (even if not consciously), the door men at clubs do as well, although with my white shoes I'm in like Flynn anywhere anyway... provided of course they let guys like Flynn in. I also wear designer label underwear, whether from Hilfiger, D&G, Boss or whatever. I suggest buying this at outlet stores or through internet discounters. Relatively affordable actually, it does pay off as the quality IS actually better than most generic brands and girls do respond well to being fucked by guys clad in stylish underclothes. Think I'm joking? Try it out yourself. Personality and chemistry go a long way(s) with girls, however hitting the primordal instincts of a women also doesn't hurt.

Designer label = money = good provider = bring mammoth meat to cave = mating material

Besides that, style and money in any combination make girls horny.

Oh yeah, I was walking through St.Pete and having called up Lukasek, we decided to meet. Now this is the part that I don't remember. I think we met at Money Honey, which if I recall was nothing special. In a Terminator-esque quick scan of the premises I spotted exactly two girls that met my taste (at this point in the evening my taste still being refined) and both were occupied. Besides it was early and I wasn't too interested in staying at Money Honey any longer than it took me to finish my beer.

I can't remember if we went to Rossi's directly at that point or to Magrib. If memory serves correctly, we went to Rossi's, which was good but somehow lacked the mojo of the night previous.

While at Rossi's I did try out the single most creative come on line ever, blowing away my previous favorites: "Are you Masha?" "Are you Dasha?" "Are you Sasha?" and "You've got a piece of parsley stuck between your teeth" .

Spotting a very petite 160cm 45kg sex monkey, I strolled up to her and with absolute conviction and announced ceremoniously "ti ochen sexy!" Now I have no idea if I somehow managed to fuck up the grammar in this brief bold three word declaration of my adoration and respect for her ability to wear sprayed on white trousers, but a conversation did ensue and we traded phone numbers. Will I break my zero tolerance gf policy in St.Pete? I doubt it, but when I do meet her next time I am going to try really hard to bed her. Something tells me she is going to be a sexual dynamo.

Realizing that Rossi's really wasn't all that on this evening, we decided to go to Magrib and I can't remember if we actually went to Marstalls first. Like Wednesday, Magrib was very good on Friday as well and although there were numerous normal girls there of very good quality, I nearly instantly selected a blonde girl I knew was hooking, judging by her cheap yet sexy Miss Sixty clothes and the way she was holding her faux Gucci handbag, standing at attention as if she was waiting for a command, wearing an odd smile and not much more.

The business meeting lasted not more than 20 seconds and we agreed on the standard $100 fare, although I warned her it was going to be an all nighter and that I was going to fuck the shit out of her. This seemed to excite her and her brown eyes lit up somewhat and she beamed a beautiful smile revealing pearly white perfectly shaped Irkutskian dental work.

She went by the name Lada (like the car) and she did in fact ride a little bumpy.

I wasn't kidding however about fucking the shit out of her in an all-nighter, I certainly did. I selected Miss Kittin as the nights music, basing my selection on the ever-changing rhythym and tempo of Miss Kittin's electronic sound. It did provide for much musical inspiration and we had a truly wild session. So much so that my 60 minute DV tape ran out and I actually missed the cumshot. Still, a multi-positional fuck-a-thon has been added to my collection. Judging by her screams and moans and such charming conversational soundbites as "fuck me deeper!" and "harder! faster!" and some Russian phrases I really wish I knew what they meant. I think she repeated "Vozmeet menya" a few times. At one point I switched the music back to "Death in Vegas", which again provided for good atmosphere, especially while fucking her ass to her primordal groans.

She reminded me of a grade A tochka girl. Somehow she didn't feel professional and we had excellent chemistry, I believe she is one of those freelancers that goes from club to club, working periodically to earn enough money to survive. And she survives well, having been to any number of exotic locations around the globe. She mentioned also hooking at a club called Akvarium, which is frequented by Russians. I asked if she had more Russian or Western customers, she said "Russian". When I asked her who paid more, Western or Russian, she answered emphatically "Russian!".

Anybody ever been to Akvarium? I'd be curious to find out if there are more such exotic fish in that sea.

I gave her 90 € (which I told her was a bit more than $100) and 150 ruble taxi fare, even though I walked with her past the winter palace into town, where I was to meet the 36-year old woman from Thursday night for coffee before attending a business meeting. Arriving for the meeting at the hopelessly overpriced yet not untasty Sadkos on Nevsky (as part of the Grand Hotel Europe complex), my business partners took one look at me, laughed and immediately ordered a beer for me. I do love doing business in Russia.

A picture of her is in the photo gallery sextion. She was wonderful.

[Eros74]

SAUNA

This report is for The Doctor that if I remember well he still doesn't try it and for Sexplorer, another big friend that soon he will be in Russia again and that he asked info about sauna in Moscow section and I am sure he will report greatly and obviously for all never tried sauna in Russia.

Everybody is looking for something new, specially in holiday sometimes sex is not enough and we would like to try something different, connecting to sex but new experience..just big fun!

1st day:

Thursday early afternoon me and my buddy in his flat with some turistic guides of Piter in English and pc and obviously telephone, the idea: to find good sauna, order girl and have big fun. It seems very easy...it wasn't!

First of all I speak only really basic Russian and sauna or banya is the favourite hobby of russian men and not westerners, this is why after half hour of phone calls we still didn't find noone banya speaking english.

I decided to ask to my friend, girl, by sms one address of sauna, she immediately answered and we immediately go out, pick up a car and go there; it was on second floor, the building tipically sovietic style, not nice, I mean..bad and old, but who care, inside I asked for privat sauna for 2 hour, towels, shoes, beer, water, and all in basic russian and he understood very well. Then I asked "devushki" and he understood nothing! Me and my buddy smiled a lot! I asked one more time, help my russian with my hands movements...he understood and said NET!

It was immediately clear was not possible to order girl, so we decided to try our first time in sauna without women.

For all who never tried sauna I have to say that when you take a privat room you usually have dressing-room, one or two, 2 showers, the sauna and near it there is a swimming pool with really cold water. We had no problem with money and pass cause we closed the door from inside. Usually you do a shower and then you go directly inside,the fire of hell! Cause I don't know how I can explain 100C of temperature, I think my first time I stayed there 2 minutes and then run out fast. I have to say I am a guy who loves winter and cold instead of summer, but we were in Russia!

So I went inside the cold swimming pool and then I was able to enjoy sauna for about 5 minutes; then shower and swimming-pool and again it all.

After 15-20 minutes you start to enjoy sauna, the warm inside make you hard to breathe but is better than beginning, drinking beer help to relax cause is enough 1 liter of beer and you fell drunk as never before LOL! Seriously is amazing, you relax deeply, very very nice! When you are in sauna you think to cold water in swimming pool, when you go there you desire the hot sauna and drink, sometimes water too.

When you are in sauna you also feel so good, in a sort of very hot nirvana that you could be able to speak and to tell all your life to your friend close to you include the pin of you credit card LOL!

Then you finish with bath in swimming pool.

I wanted and had also a masaze, from man. Sigh!

But real good masaze, then I went out and I remember I walked in the street softly as only cats do!

All for less than 30 euro. Who wanted comeback home?

2nd day:
It was clear that I was able to find the only one sauna in all Mother Russia with no possibility to order women and this is why I sincerely suggest you...never ask address of sauna to your friend girl, cause she will send you in sauna with no sex for sure!

Friday afternoon it was the moment to show my russian on the telephone, cause no more sauna without girls!

I think I called about 10 sauna and speaking russian as a baby without conjugate noone verb I found that 2 sauna had free privat room and when I asked "eta mozna devuskhi sex?" (is it possible girls sex?) the woman in first sauna answered with while of silence and then da and the man at the second sauna, it was more expensive, he immediately answered "da, da!".

So I suggest to go in lux sauna, where for sure they will know very well that westerners often go to sauna not for sauna..

We went out to pick up normal car, but there were so many auto in Nevsky that I called again asking for which station metro (kakaya metro?) and I was happy cause or my 6 years to go to czech republic and my very good knowledge of czech help me a lot (more than one word are very similar, for example the numbers) or russian language is not so difficult, at least for some basic russian sentences.

When we arrived to sauna the woman smiled cause probably understood who we were LOL! She walk to back of the building and me and my buddy getting afraid cause the entrance was really ugly, half building was in recosrtuction but as often in Russia what you see outside can be very different for the inside of building or house!
I asked her one more time where they were the girls, my biggest problem and she smiled and said moment!

So we went to start sauna after 10 minutes of playing soccer table, really funny (even if the ball is not as normal in plastic stuff but made by iron!!) when...knock at the door, there was a old woman, mamason, and 4 blond woman...FINALLY!

The price was 2.000 rubles per hour, 2 were ugly overweight, one not bad and the 4th really cute!

My buddy knowing that after 2 days I leave Russia let me had the nicer girl, we payed and then started the problem or better the trouble.

It appear soon that my girl was nice but also smart and we both were afraid about money and passport,cause she didn't want to enjoy sauna and we didn't want to let her out and free in dressing-room,so she was my girl, I was responsable for her, so we sit down on sofa with beer and cigarettes when my buddy enjoy sauna with her not-stupid woman!

After a while of talking I open my towel and I asked her with big big smile to help me to relax more, she took my hand and we went directly to dressing room.

There we closed the door and it was funny cause we were naked, so no wasting time to undress; the dressing room had no chair but a sort of bed and I immediately lied down with her between my legs with her professional hand working on my friend; I put my hand on the back of her head, cause I wanted, but I think I had to write I need, bj but she refused without condom, in 2 seconds I asked "how much?", she refused one more time and it made me sad but I tryed to enjoyed it.
Bj was nice and at certain moment I was on my left side with my right leg against the wall with her still sit down on her knees in front of me; she had really cold hands and was a pleasure feeling her hands caress my balls and my ass but it was the moment to put her in doggy style where we started the action: she was tight as pornostar but quite wet, however she had so nice ass that I tryed to enjoy anal and try to guess...oopps..she refused and made me so sad as pig before to go to butcher's house, so I did the only thing I could do...I fucked her hardly and fast thinking to send her out of the door as soon as possible to enjoy the last minutes of sauna!

3rd day:
The best day cause we met in afternoon, immediately we went to privat for have sex and then to sauna to enjoy it, I cared not so much to have sex in sauna again cause it was my last day in Russia so I wanted to enjoy sauna as weel as possible.

Suggests:

-All it depends what you are looking for: if only a new experience, so order the girl to owner of sauna and enjoy it, if you want to be sure, so go to privat and take a woman you like, and that she do what you like..LOL , directly to sauna.

-Now I could go there also alone, noone problem about it, but you enjoy better with one friend or with woman but surely better alone in sauna that sit down in a bar looking at the window.

-Better to give your money and passport to owner of sauna and forget about it!

-You are wrong if you think you need speaking good russian to find and to have great fun in sauna:if you know noone sauna, just take taxi and ask for it, and when you find sauna tell to owner girls, he will smile but understand, no problem.

-After sauna try masaze,specially if you had sex in sauna, you will feel the king of the universe!!!!

-I always felt little tired after sauna, one night I drink all night only pepsi in disco. Try to drink alkohol in sauna and you will save money...2 beers is enough LOL!

-Sauna is so cheap and you feel really amazing after it, I think that the hot of sauna, the cold water in swimming pool and do it many times, to sweat as in hell really clean your body and not only your skin.

-Try sauna or you cannot say you was in Russia LOL!

Credits:

-If I went to Russia with the need to try sauna it was cause Sam2004 in Ukraina posted very nice foto and cause he was so kind to write me pm with suggests and informations about it, so THANKS Sam from my side for all the fun I had and surely will have again and also thanks from my friend!

-To my friend JG that join me 3 times in 3 days and cause he allow me the nicest woman LOL!

I will post foto in photo gallery.

[Tokyo via AA]

OK, so the good Doctor and Luasek are starting to make me regret the fact that I have but <b>one</b> night in St.P in a couple of weeks.

Doctor: How much of your success would attribute to your ability to speak some Russian, vs. the shoes and labels etc?

Based on all the reports, I'm figuring on Magrib being the most likely interesting stop for the evening of my visit. Of course, there's a part of me that hopes that my daytime tour guide is a) female and b) has some advice on how to spend the evening and/or c) decides she simply can't leave me alone for the night :) (oh, any recommended personal guide services/tours? I was looking at RussianGuideNetwork but they're a bit pricey and have a turn-off "don't sexually harass the guides" warning on their site. PM is fine)

[OttoGraham]

And excellent reports Lukasek, too! I didn't mean to slight you by forgetting to mention this in my last post.

Uncle Otto

PS - And L, don't forget to apply for a Senior Membershp upgrade.

[Doctor_Skank]

Lukasek:

First of all my compliments to Lukasek, he provided great info in detail and I second Otto's recommendation for senior status. If you haven't yet applied Lukasek, do so. Not only have you provided very interesting insight into the not-so-well documented sauna scene, you blessed our forum with many photos. Thanks and happy hunting!

Tokyo:

Speaking Russian obviously helps, but isn't absolutely necessary. Still, I must admit that many girls I've had spoke little or no English. Now my Russian is not great by any means, in fact it sucks. But I do speak at a level enough to hold basic conversations and make some timely compliments. Russian girls universally complain that they aren't complimented enough. (???!!!)

So yeah, any Russian you can learn will help. If nothing else, a shy girl who doesn't want to embarass herself in front of you by speaking poor English will hear you speak atrocious Russian and then suddenly feel compelled and confident enough to try her non-existent but suddenly not so awful English after all.

The labels thing is true, but is really just an accessory to your success. A lot of factors contribute to your success, I just try to mention a few that do help.

As for the white shoes, I swear it worked for me... but maybe 1 white shoe wearer is enough for Russia. I think brown and black shoes also will work just fine... :)

And my suggestion for any lurkers out there is just to go to Russia (or the Ukraine) and try it out. I can't imagine anyone regretting their trip. It really isn't just the girls, Russia is a wonderful country and if you've never been, you'll never be the same afterwards.

[Knuckhead]

Lukasek and Doc:

These past series of reports have been amazing and excellent examples of the kind of investigative journalism WSG is all about.

Knowing how time consuming it can be to write such reports, I wanted to thank you both for your time and effort as well as your generosity in sharing your experiences with the rest of us.

Sexplorer

[Eros74]

I apologize for delay of my answer, but One Ghost I thought sleeping in heaven ( or hell?..) comeback in my life. My exgirlfriend after 4 years of silence. Not nice to have trouble about Love Better to forget all them!

So I truly thank You dear friends for your kind words!

Sexplorer is right that report needs time to write, mainly for who as me live in not-speaking english country, so I had to find my vocabolary before start to write here LOL!

It is unbelievable that so many guys view the foto, for example the last foto in Czech Republic is mine and even if posted 5 weeks ago was view from about 8 thousands members, and that the reports are written more or less from the same members and I don't think that all the 8.000 members go to holiday 2-3 times at year as me, but what to do?

Long life to this forum and to all contribute it!

In few days I will ask upgrade, thanks for friendly suggest!

[Eros74]

PRIVAT SALOON

(If you think you need russian to go where you are not correct..)

Saturday night I went with Doctor_Skank to about 4 discos and the last was Magrib, really nice girls but I left it alone at 3:30 am with the hope to meet him again.
I arrive at home after a while cause I had flat near Nevsky and I went to bed but I was not able to fall sleep: I know I had time until 8:45 am when driver pick me to airport, so about 4 hours.

I was lie down in bed and think to the problem I had on the table of the kitchen.

A big problem!

Newspaper "Znakomstva"!!!

I was so sad to thought to come back to my sex prison, as Sexplorer'd say.., that I wanted the last girl, but at 4:00 am sunday morning it can be not easy everywhere but not in Russia!

I try to call about 10 privats asking for someone speaking english but no success; so it seem that or I tried to speak some words of russian, and believe me that after long night in 4 discos it can be not so easy, or bye bye Russia..

I took the vocabolary and with a pen I wrote some words on the piece of paper and I started to call again.

It was first of all funny:some girls just ring off when listen my childhood russian but some of them were really kind and try to speak slowly and aloud; I realized immediately that was more easy than I thought and It was only the problem to find girl...in ass business LOL!

Every call I did was more or less as this: " hello" (privet), "I need girl" ( me nuzna devuskha), "how much one hour" ( skolka adin cas), " is this possible anal" ( eta mozna analni sex), "is this possible to my flat" (eta mozna devuskha muj kvartira).

I decided for one saloon where they asked me which kind of girl I wanted, I told little blond, they asked my phone number and they called me after a while and said in half hour she will arrive.

I used the time to put quickly my clothes in suitcase and went immediately out to ATM, yes I didn't think I need more money when I came back home LOL!

At 5:00 am she called me, I went out in the street and I found not nice suprise there were 2 girls and one big man; he told me 2 girls 4.000 rubles; I answered I ordered only one and he was not ahhpy but agreed when I showed I was ready to take one girl or noone! Than strange thing: He wanted to come upstairs to contol if I was alone in my flat.

Not try to imagine my situation: I was after 10 days of holiday really tired, in 3 hours I had to wake up to go to airport, I was alone with 2 gilrs and one big man, I am 172cm 64kg and I forgot all I learnt in one year of course of boxing-training even if I am able to run very fast LOL!

So I was really in trouble, cause tired but still pretty horny and enough afraid to let him go inside my flat.

What to do? I tried to look at him in his eyes to understand what he really wanted. I understood nothing but my desire to have that cute blond woman near him!

May be I did a stupid thing or a normal thing, still I don't know If I only was lucky but I let him to go inside my flat with the blond, the other girl waited in the car; he searched in all my flat, 10 seconds, I had 3 room flat, and when he found nobody he immediately smiled and I thought, or he will kill me or I will have the most amazing sex experience of my 10 days!

He didn't kill me LOL!

I paid him and I realized immediately she was shy, more afraid than me and little drunk, so I took immediately 2 glass, one for vodka and second for tea, she smiled in so sweet way that I kissed her deeply and so passionate as only a soldier back from ten years of war far from home can kiss his wife!

We drunk vodka for time of cigarette and then we strip quiclky and then went to bed far one from the other.

Nobody was shy, but we behave as we were, It was so strange feeling, we probably need more closer to Love than to sex, cause we wathced the television hand to hand!

Then the male in me wake up and I roll close to her and started to kiss her as I never had sex in Piter, she moved her hand to my hand, the first LOL!, and the second after my ombelicus..finally!

After some minutes of kissing so nice that I doubt if I ordered a prostitute or a girl in need of make love as I was, I went on my knees and showed her my best friend; she immediately refused not covered bj and she made me so sad, ( you have to know that in some situation covered bj for me is a total knock-out as to find your wife in the bed with her sister LOL!), and so sad that I guess I was able without problem to pray her all night long, it means 2 minutes...dawn was so close.., or to cry as a child that wants another toy, and only to have NOT covered bj; but what to say her? I really spontaneously said: " pazalsta, pazalsta, ja zavtra...domoi! And I said with a smile that she smiled too!

She started to be in trouble, I saw from her eyes, I said one more time, I know who cares that I went home but me, but she probably liked me or only she liked the spontaneous joke, ( hey but it was true that I didn't want to end with covered bj.. I am sure you too LOL!), so she started very sweet and so slowly bj, that it was nice as the first of my life I received 9 years ago..but she was italian so much better russian bj..

Then It was doggy style, missionarie where if I remember good I took her left leg with my hand and the right I put directly towards my brow, I saw somewhere and it works very good, remember to try it.., then some minutes, I was so tired, I cum and I fall down to bed thinking that m-a-y b-e it was really the end of my holiday!!

I went to do a shower, she sleeping, I waked up her, I did her one foto, yes to post it here, her best memory I had in my mind, and I asked her to leave, cause time was 6:20, it means fellow gentlemen 2 hours of sleep..wow!!

At 8:50 phone ringing and driver asked where I was, I was happy that I did the suit-case waiting for her!

She was from south of Russian, few hours by train from Moscow, she studied in Piter and she worked to pay her studies, tru or not I gave her 20 euro and 1.000 rubles, all I had.

I think was the best girl, even if not the nicest, I had in 10 days, remind me of tochka experience in Moscow, may be cause was the first girl not from Piter and I decide that next time I will go in Siberia or in some city so far, cause I had the feeling there the attitude is totally different from Moscow and Piter woman, the same feeling I had with the tockha I had.

I slept about 2 hours, but even if I came back with not my favourite Aereoflot, see my first report, I was sad, to come back home, and at the same time so happy for the adventure to order in russian girl to privat in early sunday morning and happy for such Gem attitude girl you can find when you risk a little or when you try to listen your instinct and to follow it.

Good luck sweet Anastasia!

[Ricardo Cabro]

A belated report from SPB. I don’t seem to have either the luxury of time for mongering or report writing but after reading the excellent reports from Lukasek and Doc I am obliged to add my few moments of experience. I arrived into Pulkovo on Thursday pm (2 weeks ago) and went straight into business meetings. By the time I met Lukasek at 10:00pm I had been on the go for 22 hours and was pretty tired. We went to Rossi‘s with one of his US buddies and I was suitably impressed by the crowd and, in particular the chicas. After a beer I could feel my eyes closing so I made my apologies and left for my hotel. Unfortunately Lukasek sowed a seed in my mind as I departed, saying he was sure I would go to an apartment.

Funnily enough, once in the taxi, and with the thought of returning to the depressing St Petersburg hotel, I tried to call an apartment on Vossanya Ulica I used last time. The phone was dead. So using three of the seven words of Russian that I know I asked the driver to take me to an apartment (dyevushki apartamenti da?).

Two minutes later we were walking up several flights of decrepid stairs and into a fairly well appointed apartment. Four girls were wheeled out in front of me, the best a 6 who happened to speak good English, but not good enough to warrant the 2000 rubles/hr asking price.

Unimpressed, I made my apologies and we went on to the next place. This was on Prospekt Kamennoostrovskiy, building #24 (tel: 941 1400) and insideit was a very large and well appointed appartment. I took tea in a large lounge and, after some discussions with the lady boss, five girls paraded in. All were 1.70m+ and the worst was a solid 8. I could not choose between them so took the girl with the warmest smile. Can’t remember the name she was presented as but her real name is Vika, 1.74m, incredibly long legs and the pertest butt I’ve seen in a long time. Prices were 2500 rubles, one hour, 3500 2 hrs. Not the cheapest, but the girls were serious quality and head and shoulders above anything I’ve seen in other apartments or Tribunal or Marstall on previous visits.

Vika was a very good GFE and managed to make the 2 hours feel like more. Excellent CBJ (no hands), passable massage, DATY, DFK and round 2 was fun. She started in cowgirl and, suddenly discovering she could speak English, demanded her orgasm first. Then it was a bit of blur as we went through the whole repertoire of positions. I limped back to the hotel exhausted but happy, took one look at the dogs in the lobby bar and went to bed a very happy man.

Friday was filled with business until quite late. I took a siesta, ate dinner and weighed up my options for the night. Then I did something dumb and returned to the same apartment, selected the same girl and repeated the exploits of the night before. A crazy thing to do when there is so much food on the table but the level of service and intimacy was quite different on this second visit. In fact, one of the other girls said to me while I was waiting that no-one had ever returned so soon for the same girl. Probably complete BS but Vika greeted me like a long lost friend and was even hotter than the night before. Must be something to be said for repeat business.

I returned to the hotel and hit the sack as I had an early check in time for my flight to Moscow the next morning.

[Teek Kari]

Hi there!

About saunas,

When I lived in St. Pete we used to visit the sauna in hotel Chaika. Yes, it is far away from the city center and it is not as good the sauna e.g. in Astoria. But it is much cheaper and girls are allowed. If you do not have girls on your own, the guys working in security will find them for you. Usually they bring to you 4 - 8 girls to choose from.

http://www.chaika.spb.ru/

The room rates in in the english version are old, look at the russian version. The (renovated) rooms are not so bad and breakfast is included. Of course you can bring the girls to also to your room. Quite many expats working in Piter are living in Chaika (Or at least used to live).

Hotel Chaika is not far away from metro Pionerskaya. After sauna you visit Aerodrom, local nightclub, 100 meters from the metro. I have not been there since last winter, but I think they are still open every night. But if you find a girl there, do not go to her place. It may be dangerous.

[Shostakovich]

Accomodation?

somebody around here, can provide me a girlfriendly hotel in St. Pete?

Will stay only 2 Nights so appartment is not useful.

Thanks

Shos

[ChicagoBoy23]

SAS Radisson was girl friendly. Very nice rooms but pricey.

[Teek Kari]

Hi fellows!

Recently called Katya. I know her for almost ten years already and just asked if she is still in the business. She is and she can provide you with girls for 2700 roubles for two hours. Also you can ask accomodation if needed (with or without girls).

The good thing is that Katya speaks fluent english and you can trust her. At least I trust.

For regular kilients skidka, i.e. lower prices.

Almost forgot the number:

+7 812 344 74 55

[Frenchy Couple]

Hi guys,

I could recommand an escort agency which was very helpful last June, when my wife and I went to SP.

It's called Lizaescorts and they of course get a website with the same name.

Nice girls and average prices. We met Kristi, a 19 y.o. beauty, ready to anything. A dream!

For accomodation, just try on the web Oksanna apartments (6 flats located on Nevskiy prospekt 88) : very new flats from 50 euros per night.

As a night club to pick up girls (for most of them you'll have to pay), I definitely advice The Tribunal : nice atmosphere and music, go go dancers, some escorts. You do not have to pay an entrance fee.

[Andy S]

She was from south of Russian, few hours by train from Moscow, she studied in Piter and she worked to pay her studies, tru or not I gave her 20 euro and 1.000 rubles, all I had.

Lukasek!
Dont believe the girls saying that they work to study. Every girl will say you this. It is possible to study 20 girl in university for the money she earn.

[Eros74]

Andy S,

Yes, you probably are right, or maybe there are also some few, 5%?, girls that also study at university or they try.

It was early sunday morning close to go to airport, I had great time with her, I can say I liked to believe her and my tip was mainly for her service and because she was the last I had.

However thank you very much for you suggest!

Luca

P.S: you didn't give her a tip?

[Andy S]

P.S: you didn't give her a tip?

Some time, but not often. You will understand why if you try to calculate how much prostitutes earn here (in Russia) and compare with åhe income of the highly paid employee.

[Sid66]

Hello Guys,

I am maybe the first woman to write in this forum, but I think this gives some edge for this conversation you are having. I am writing my first report from St Pete. I live in Finland but have born in Russia, best places for St Pete are Metro, Kannushnii Dvor, Money Honey and Pietari.

Last time I was there I saw some fucking great looking russki guys. I prefer russki mushina because they are more intensive in bed and more good looking, and also more mascular. Western men are too often so drunk, they don't even know where chicken pisses.

I was in Metro Club 2 weeks ago, got to know one one dark, young boy: we met on the dance floor, after that he was paying my drinks for the whole evening. After that went with his Mercedes Benz to his place, and had DATY, very enjoyable. After that we fucked in many positions and I had multiple orgasms with him. His dick was about 25 cm long and it really made me moan.

This was one of my best experiences I have ever had in St Pete, coming back after two weeks.

Poka, Maria

[Nickc]

To Lukasek,

No thank you for your boringly long self-indulgent postings. This is the WSG, world sex guide. It is not the WUG, world underpant guide. Your post “I also wear designer label underwear, whether from Hilfiger, D&G, Boss or whatever. I suggest buying this at outlet stores or through internet discounters. Relatively affordable actually, it does pay off as the quality IS actually better than most generic brands and girls do respond well to being fucked by guys clad in stylish underclothes. Think I'm joking? Try it out yourself. Personality and chemistry go a long way(s) with girls, however hitting the primordal instincts of a women also doesn't hurt. Designer label = money = good provider = bring mammoth meat to cave = mating material”. Are you for real? There’s only one deluded nationality you could ever be from. This is not Penthouse forum, don’t waste our time having to read your drivel. I don’t care want music you play before going out, but if your listening to Korn, your way out of date mate. As for white shoes, who are you trying to impress, Elton John? I have emailed Jackson to cancel your membership & stop wasting our time with your fantasy. As for your story about the three guys in SPB going around killing people with baseball bats, to all readers, please note that was pure fiction. To all readers please note some people writing on the SPB forum are actually business people from the Moscow forum, who don’t want you to go to SPB & want you to go to Moscow & stay in there apartments & go to Nighttain, which is the most awlful overpriced club in Russia. As for Otto’s recommendation for you senior status, I have emailed jackson regards this. Some of us change our user name every so often, like myself. Why do you guys think theres any great acheivement in writing hundreds of posts of pure drivel & then recommending each other for senior status. If your got some infornation to share, please do so, but keep your fantasy in your pants boys.

[Eros74]

Sid66,

Funny to read Western men are, in your opinion, too often drunk, I think you mean russian men aren't. I noticed the opposite.
But I was in Russia only 2 times, so surely you know the situation better than me..and better the women I met out there.

I have BMW is it a problem? lol

And about the dick of your friend. I guess if you measured it beforeor after sex? lol

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to remove the multiple periods at the ends of sentences. To avoid delays in future reports, please use just one period followed by a blank space at the end of sentences. Thanks!

[Doctor_Skank]

Sid66,

I don't know what you wrote has to do with the below conversation. However, happy you got laid in a great way, no matter who did it.

But why do you like the clubs you list rate high in your book?

Also, since this is a forum where men post about how and where to get laid by the women of the world, pro or non-pro, what can you tell us to help us accomplish our goals?

And how can we please women more, make you have multiple orgasms? I am always willing to learn more from your perspective...

How'd you find the forum, are you a pro or just one of those so-called normal girls?

[Sid66]

Doc,

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I wrote to St Petersburg forum because this is the city where I spend most of my time outside Finland. I have read Russian / Ukrainan / Moldovan forum and this is the outcome of all these combined, and my 5 cents to add. Even though I as a woman see some very desperate / funny sounding reports where you guys really don't know what you are doing.

The best way to approach a Russian woman is to talk with her politely, dress up nice, don't ask for pussy right away. Silent confidence makes good impression, don't brag about your money, wealth, nationality etc. Ordrer her a drink right away, not after half an hour.

For clubs: In Metro 3rd floor is packed with best looking, trendy ashtonishing women, international disco music is played and very many foreign men (for me) are visiting ;-)

Konnushnii Dvor: has been covered before.

Cafe Pietari: Many single women sits alone, not many foreigners. Easy for you men to have a devushka. No competition yet. Maybe after this post much more western men :-)

Money Honey: Weekdays many attractive non-pro students. You can easily connect to a student who is looking for adventure...

For multiple orgasms: every woman is her own person, just like I don't take blowjob for every man the same way. Some like it hard way with teeth, some like it in tender way. The best way to reach me in orgasm has been when man has asked what I like, how to touch me, and create a nice atmosphere for the night. BUT ALSO man has to be creative and have confidence/trust about himself. After that my enjoyment can be 100%. But as said before treat every woman as a person, not just like a sex-machine.

Hope this answered your questions even partly. I understand the goals you are trying to make in this forum but please don't underestimate us, every woman is her own person.

Poka,

Maria

[GandJim]

Doc,
And how can we please women more, make you have multiple orgasms? I am always willing to learn more from your perspective...There are a few other women posting on WSG. For example, do a search for posts by RN. She's an ex-sex worker and wrote on this issue many times. Problem is that she's also a "serial" poster and you will have to dig through tons of posts. ;) Just kidding. Her posts are very entertaining and humourous.

Roxanne's posts are also informative and fun, for example this one (http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=247585#post247585) for her view "from a female perspective". :)


Sid66,

Welcome onboard!!!! :D I'm also curious to read about your views on this.

[John Quakman]

Sid 66

I'll bet a 10" dick made you moan! Most women would have screamed...in pain, that, or you got a **** like a cavern.

[Sid66]

Dear John Q,

The size is not really important, technique is most important. Still, you can not light fire to a woman with a toothpick ;-)

Poka,

Maria

[Across69]

This is an update of my email from last winter of all the brothels in SPG from OMEN.ru with more than 4 girls. It seems that my favorite place across the street from Magrib is out of business. Each of these places will let you visit (incall) or you can order in (outcall). The first number is their phone in the (812) area code. Second is the name of the girls listed because you usually need to ask for a girl by name when you call to get the address and to be let in the front door. Finally, is the price per hour. I have not tried any of these places and good luck to anyone who tries:


981-1112 Ksusha, Olesya, Sveta Lera,Alexandra $45
970-4570 Angelika, Renata, Olga, Leana, Kseneya,Snejanna $50
115-9648 Albina, Sveta, Margo Angela $50
974-9809 Janet,Nathalie,viktoria, Olenka, Lisa $70
974-6120 Natasha, alena, Leram Dina, Ksasha $50
113-2337 Viktoria, Neka, Varya, kyra $65
974-5463 Irene, Anna, Julia, Sabina, alexandra, Lisa $60
907-5335 Kristina, Karin, Olya, Lisa, alisa, alenka,Marina,Olya$60
970-1813 Karina, Ellen, Kyra, alexandra, stella $50
974-4438 Azeza, Viktoria, Mariana,Arena, Nastenka,Anishka $50
115-9369 Nika, Lyla, elya, Margo, Olya $65
387-2006 Olga, Katusha, Evgenya, Lera, Nadejda $50
116-5268 Elena, Anya, Oksana, Olesya $65
970-3342 Nashtenka, Alla, Tatyana, Margarita, anusta $50
974-7060 Lena, marina, Masha, Sveta, Ira, Viktoria, Katya $40

I hope the land of Vodka and pretty blonds is unchanged but my next venture into mother Russia in january will be into the hinterlands of Yaroslavel, Vologograd and big Novgorod. Hopefully, I will be able to give you all updates.

[Doctor_Skank]

Maria/Sid66:

Thanks for your club info and answering, hope to try them out soon. If I can shovel my schedule free. St.Pete is kind of a new playground for me, although I am admittedly trying to avoid the complications of multiple relationships that have begun to plague my Moscow existence. There really is a lot to be said for the joy of the hunt, it is a central motivating factor for many men, particularly those who are not looking for or not prepared (and even those not able) to have a serious relationship or, totally out of place on this forum, a monogamous one.

As for women, obviously an indvidual vibe must develop, every women is different, despite certain characteristics that seem to apply to most, such as confidence in men, men knowing what they want etc.

Every woman a person.. of course, and when dealing with pros (and that is the central focus of this forum) treating them as women will often yield great rewards i.e. real passion... sometimes you are just a part of a business deal however and when that happens, you must just roll with it and get as much out of it as possible. At least we guys must... we certainly pay enough for the privelage.

[Doctor_Skank]

Simon:

I wrote that stuff you complain about, not Lukasek.

If you don't like what I write, don't read it.

As for the baseball bat story, it's true.

There is plenty of info in my reports.

Lukasek deserves senior member status, his reports speak for themselves.

Your reports also speak for themselves... no further comment.

Your conspiracy theories are really bullshit. I, like many others, am a businessman, but I couldn't care less if you go to Moscow, St.Pete or Kiev. If you were able to get past your infuriation over my self-indulgent underwear comments (I do apologize for that), you'll notice that I reported very positively about St.Pete.

Didn't comprehend the sarcasm of the white shoes ridiculousness? Sorry about that mate. I'll write more simply for you in the future. Or maybe not.

Korn: yeah it is old music. Sorry I mentioned it. It fit the story.

Insulting nationalities? That's a welcome theme in WSG. More sarcasm if you are taking notes.

Self-indulgence: I will continue to be self-indulgent and have as much sex, paid and unpaid for, that I possibly can. Hedonism is not uncommon among WSG members.

Lighten up. Sex is fun. So is this forum. I have gotten a lot out of it, it certainly has improved my experiences in the countries I travel to. I try to give some back with info and pictures. If you don't like my posts, then just don't read them. Very simple concept.

And if you are going to complain about somebody, get the right guy.

[OttoGraham]

Simon,

Unlike you, I have NOT emailed Jackson to complain about your silly-ass posts.

Personally, I hope the flatheads with baseball bats teach you a thing or two about manners.

Uncle Otto

PS - Anybody planning on being in St. Pete during Russkie Christmas in January? I might be over there during this time, perhaps some Merry Christmas hunting would be in order?

[Andy S]

PS - Anybody planning on being in St. Pete during Russkie Christmas in January? I might be over there during this time, perhaps some Merry Christmas hunting would be in order?

I live here and I think that I should be there....

[Eros74]

To Simon,

It is funny to read you took some parts of my report and from report of Doctor_Skank and put them all together under my name.

May be you didn't take enough time to read well or just not able to do it, nevermind. I don't care to answer to you, as you did with me, cause you are one in a milion, a member but surely not a friend of mine and thank for e mailed Jackson, but he does his work so good without suggest as the mail you wrote him and if I will not upgrade this time, I will try next time with my next report.

As Doc correctly said I one more time suggest you to avoid to read post from members you don't like, but may be is not so simple concept.

We are all looking forward your "next" detailed post about an international city or international travel.

[El Suave]

Sid66, The best way to approach a Russian woman is to talk with her politely, dress up nice, don't ask for pussy right away. Silent confidence makes good impression, don't brag about your money, wealth, nationality etc. Ordrer her a drink right away, not after half an hour. Your tips on how to best lay a Ruskaya also hold true for Swiss, American, British, Japanese and every single nationality held by women globally. You’re not contributing any insider or special information here. I’d say you’re spreading misinformation.

Should I want to use your scoring criteria, I’d stay in Lake Charles. Moreover, your recommendations conceal a rather sinister and seditious agenda. One may note you’re covertly seeking to advance the interests of your specie on the cheap.

You demand of the western male to harness and adhere to numerous elitist qualities, amongst which “not asking for pussy right away”. Well, American males in particular are terrified of asking “for pussy right away” at home, now you cunningly advise them to refrain from asking in sexually liberated Russia? No, you’re not merely demonstrating how we can best get laid.

You wanna dispossess the westerner of all his assets and advantages while on the prowl in the CIS. You recommend that he suppresses the urge to burnish his distinguished nationality in a country where Ruskayas still have a soft spot for western men. You further suggest that he tone down his wealthy attribute and fork up drinks before he assesses his scoring odds. And you’ve no ulterior agenda?

El Suave knows that asking for pussy right away in Russia is the only way. When you’ve got the mass of females available in that country, what other way is there? Your way? Spare us. El Sauve’s method is slipping his unsuspecting, new female acquaintance wood up the mini skirt and through da popa. And all this whilst she sits on the barstool sipping Campari. Her reaction? ‘Yeshio wood pajalussta senior zapadni’.

El Suave knows the filthier the lingo in Rossia, the louder the moans are, the more possossi moi gramaden akvedukt e vozmi v rta, the more responsiveness you’re awarded. If El Suave wants to collect phone numbers, he’ll acquire a phone book. If it ain’t a one night stand in the CIS, it most certainly is a shit stand; simply dermo, poniola dievushka?

“Silent confidence”? Silent defecane. El Suave talks and talks, and talks, he wares down his female pray until she says to him, ‘if I fuck you, will you shut da fuck up?’ Of course the dude’s answer is affirmative.

Your Benz dude asked for pussy right away and he got it. Oh I get it, Rusko-Finns are much more promiscuous, lascivious floozies than plain Ruskayas eh? Maybe a look-see at the Finn board is warranted.

Ultimately, the kinda poka you’re preachin don’t jive, not in Russia milaya koshka.

[Sid66]

El Suave wrote:

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Your tips on how to best lay a Ruskaya also hold true for Swiss, American, British, Japanese and every single nationality held by women globally. You’re not contributing any insider or special information here. I’d say you’re spreading misinformation.
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“Silent confidence”? Silent defecane. El Suave talks and talks, and talks, he wares down his female pray until she says to him, ‘if I fuck you, will you shut da fuck up?’ Of course the dude’s answer is affirmative.
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I don’t think Russian women are that different from all other women on Earth, that they wouldn’t want men behave like gentlemen. Maybe I should have been more clear and indicate that I was writing about non-pro women. I can see El Suave’s point though, and read his comments with smile in my face.

Still, if a (pro)girl is expecting to have 100-200 € from the man later in the evening, I think she is willing to hear any bs all night long and laugh her lungs out. It is also called acting ;-)

Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought the idea in this forum is also to give comments about “normal girls”. Still I have to add that sometimes the line between normal and pro girl is vague especially in Russia, when the question of economical survival is top priority in one’s mind :-(

Poka, Maria

[OttoGraham]

Interesting posts, Sid66 and ElSuave. I look forward to further contributions from you both. Your posts, as newbies, are head-and-shoulders above that moron I whacked a few posts back. I don't agree with everything you two write, but welcome nonetheless.

Uncle Otto

[El Suave]

sid,

you think the concept of non pros and wholesome, regular ruskayas is underrepresented, foreign and alien to this board? you’d like to think that before you came along russian enthusiasts' sole interest was pros and only pros eh?

i submit to you, and it goes without saying that “bs” is never necessary with a pro. why would any rational, non tard, non neurotic punter expend valuable energy wooing a prostitute through speech? i’m presuming you do know that money would suffice when hiring a pro, provilno?

however, “bs”, sexual overtures and erotic speech in the hands of the skilled are super natural with regular ruskayas in your rodina. perhaps i should make myself a bit clearer by saying fuck gentleman like conduct when engaging regular ruskayas_ bestiality is the superior approach. moreover, i put emphasis on “regular ruskayas”, lest you again think el suave is speaking about pros.

and yes, “russian women are that different from other women on earth”, if by nothing else, simply by their sheer numbers, the western male’s biggest challenge is avoiding getting laid while in the cis.

a very nice young ruskaya once told me that russian men are so lucky and spoiled. although she didn’t elaborate, i knew exactly what she meant. she understood that if the russian male traveled outside russia along with his attitude and meager means, he’d score less than 10% of the pussy he did in the homeland. so when the western male approaches the ruskaya without the bellicose attitude, but with a huge boner, fat wallet and astute erotic speech, he’s more than welcome.

in the final analysis, let’s make a sharp distinction between what regular ruskayas “want”, endeavor to attain, and what they’ll settle for with no grudges. whereas most western women find touching and french kissing them 5 minutes after you meet them odious, ruskayas welcome it. whereas western women find saying fuck, fuck, fuck, suck, yebatsa, anal, penis, penis, penis, sex , sex, idiom k menia offensive, regular ruskayas are receptive and will want some.

uncle otto, i'm a big admirer of your valuable posts. your encourgement means a lot. thank you.

[El Suave]

It’s fair for Sid66 to wonder why some are objecting to her assessment of western men and Russian women’s needs and sexuality. For the sake of brevity, one word describes her outlook, misguided.

Western men wonder when they hear statements like the following:


I prefer russki mushina because they are more intensive in bed and more good looking, and also more mascular. Western men are too often so drunk, they don't even know where chicken pisses.

For someone who comes from a country who’s the champion of the world in alcoholism, you’ve some nerve calling western men drunks. Especially when your most famous General, General Kalashnikov is marketing Kalashnikov Vodka all over Europe by knocking them down while doing interviews.

You’ve 2 consecutive Russian presidents who are alcoholics par excellence. Yeltson considered public drunkenness a national sport. While Putin, now this guy is a piece of work. Nothing is public with this character, everything is backstage and surreptitious a la old shcola.

Take the hostage crisis, you’re telling this board that a sober chief would handle the Moskva theater and Beslan impasse like Putin did? So here’s the Putin hostage doctrine: knock down 2 liters of Kalashnikov Vodka, then kill all the hostages and only half the hostage takers, and if the hostages’ relatives complain, gas them too. After killing everybody, appoint your own governors and theater curators.

Then Sid says

I was in Metro Club 2 weeks ago, got to know one dark, young boy Well, the western male is a light man of intellect, substance, entrepreneurial savvy and wealth, he owns everything of note in the world, and is sober even when he’s drunk.

I’ll hand it to you though, the Russian man is a boy of muscle, halitosis and steroidal agents. However, Russian men better looking? In a pig’s eye. Have you seen the Slavic bulging cheekbones on Russian males, they all look like they’ve undergone massive blows while being interrogated and tortured by a drunken Putin.

Hey, I’m always sober, and I never know where a “chicken pisses.”

[OttoGraham]

Originally posted by Across69

Updated Brothel List
This is an update of my email from last winter of all the brothels in SPG from OMEN.ru with more than 4 girls. It seems that my favorite place across the street from Magrib is out of business. Each of these places will let you visit (incall) or you can order in (outcall). The first number is their phone in the (812) area code. Second is the name of the girls listed because you usually need to ask for a girl by name when you call to get the address and to be let in the front door. Finally, is the price per hour. I have not tried any of these places and good luck to anyone who tries:


981-1112 Ksusha, Olesya, Sveta Lera,Alexandra $45
970-4570 Angelika, Renata, Olga, Leana, Kseneya,Snejanna $50
115-9648 Albina, Sveta, Margo Angela $50
974-9809 Janet,Nathalie,viktoria, Olenka, Lisa $70
974-6120 Natasha, alena, Leram Dina, Ksasha $50
113-2337 Viktoria, Neka, Varya, kyra $65
974-5463 Irene, Anna, Julia, Sabina, alexandra, Lisa $60
907-5335 Kristina, Karin, Olya, Lisa, alisa, alenka,Marina,Olya$60
970-1813 Karina, Ellen, Kyra, alexandra, stella $50
974-4438 Azeza, Viktoria, Mariana,Arena, Nastenka,Anishka $50
115-9369 Nika, Lyla, elya, Margo, Olya $65
387-2006 Olga, Katusha, Evgenya, Lera, Nadejda $50
116-5268 Elena, Anya, Oksana, Olesya $65
970-3342 Nashtenka, Alla, Tatyana, Margarita, anusta $50
974-7060 Lena, marina, Masha, Sveta, Ira, Viktoria, Katya $40

I hope the land of Vodka and pretty blonds is unchanged but my next venture into mother Russia in january will be into the hinterlands of Yaroslavel, Vologograd and big Novgorod. Hopefully, I will be able to give you all updates.



A69, great, fabulous post, worth repeating! The next Baltika is on your favorite uncle!

Uncle Otto

[Sid66]

el suave: wow!!! i must have hit some nerves. lol !!!

i was wishing to have some intellectual conversation over here, but it looks like i am against immaturity from a westerner, who has probably visited russia couple of times and can’t see the forest for the trees. still i'm having a hilarious time reading his posts, so nothing personal against you :-)

el suave wrote:
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for someone who comes from a country who’s the champion of the world in alcoholism, you’ve some nerve calling western men drunks. especially when your most famous general, general kalashnikov is marketing kalashnikov vodka all over europe by knocking them down while doing interviews.
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i have only written what i have seen in restaurants where have been both russian and western men.

el suave wrote:
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so when the western male approaches the ruskaya without the bellicose attitude, but with a huge boner, fat wallet and astute erotic speech, he’s more than welcome.
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you should have emphasized the words “fat wallet” :-)

has it ever happened to you guys that you take “normal freebie” or “regular ruskaya” as suave described them to your apartment from nightclub and next day you find yourselves buing clothes, jewellery etc. for her? what is then the difference between pro and non-pro? you don’t talk bs to a pro and don’t buy her drinks in the club? where is the logic guys?

poka, maria

[Eros74]

Dear OttoGraham,

Don't forget to buy newspaper "znakomstva", you find everywhere in shop, I just now have in my hand the number of september and there are 98 pages FULL of foto telephone numbers of pro but most of all you see their foto near number so you can order what you see. I don't know if are all real foto, but I think most of them are.

All the girl I took have the same price if you have sex in their flat or if you decide to take her to your room, when I understood the price is the same I always took her to my room and seems the time of travel is not count. In "znakomstva" you can find also address and foto vip sauna.

There are for sure at least other 2 newspapers, one is "amuda" or they call in this way and is the newspaper of amurspb.ru, the other I don't know the name.

I discovered and bought "znakomstva" the last day, unluckily, but I took it at home and all friends of mine I showed it, they really were without words and strongly surprised about the beauty in this magazine. They stopped to look to the foto of Piter's enviroments I did LOL!

Happy hunting!

[El Suave]

Sid66, Has it ever happened to you guys that you take “normal freebie” or “regular Ruskaya” as Suave described them to your apartment from nightclub and next day you find yourselves buing clothes, jewellery etc. for her? What is then the difference between pro and non-pro? You don’t talk bs to a pro and don’t buy her drinks in the club? Where is the logic guys?The answer to your first question is no. No, I never ever find myself buying clothes and jewelry for the regular Russian girl I fucked last night after nightclubbing. In fact, I never ever choose to see this girl again. And I’ll tell you why, because I already had her in every position printed on a deck of dirty playing cards. Everything she had to offer, I already had. To see her again is counter productive and yields diminished returns.

So contrary to your erroneous perception, I can see and understand the “forest.” Moreover, I understand that Russia is a forest encompassing endless quantities of regular, young, willing and receptive girls just there for the asking. So when El Suave heads to Russia, he’s there to fuck till he turns blue, he never has any interest in seeing the same girl twice. Why? Because it’s a forest with abundance like you said. I buy the Jewelry, clothes and toys for my wife and children. The romance? I leave that for my mistress back home. While in Russia the mission statement is fucking a new girl every other day because it’s doable.

And let me tell you the difference between a pro and non pro because you did ask. Take a Marstall hardcore pro who propositioned and slept with 23,000 swingers, you might call her the number one health hazard in Russia. A non pro might be your young sister, a college student or office worker, she might like nightclubbing and doesn’t mind sleeping with the occasional westerner every now and then. This non pro probably has under her belt merely 16 various punters. Do you see the difference from a health hazard point of view?

The logic. No, I don’t “talk bs to a pro and don’t buy her drinks in the club”, I pay her to fuck. The non pro I bs, flirt with, cajole, buy her drinks after chemistry develops, host her at my apartment, fuck her, and never see her again. It doesn’t get more logical than that.

Finally, I do put emphasis on a fat wallet, it gets me to Russia, it furnishes me with a nice apartment, it buys me the finest whisky and hires me a chauffeured car. The non pro hooking up and fucking I do with my agile tongue and cock.

Remember, it’s never immature to defend one’s own kind.

[Sid66]

El Suave, it looks like St Pete forum has developed into our mutual discussion/arguing during last few days.

What can you tell about your past visits to Russia? Which cities have you visited, how many times you have been here etc. How about St Petersburg? Where do you spend your time here? Do you rent an apartment? Where?

I see some similarities in your writing to Kremlin King who wrote in Moscow forum few months ago and then disappeared. I think your writing is very arrogant and not so nice. I have a feeling you have been posting under different names earlier. If not, it really flatters me to have this much conversation to my humble post.

Maybe some senior members can help me out? I don’t really see the nuances in somebody’s writing that easily, since my knowledge of english is not that perfect. Doc, what do you think about this? CA Traveller, Otto Graham, Lukasek: Please give your comments.

El Suave wrote:
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The non pro I bs, flirt with, cajole, buy her drinks after chemistry develops, host her at my apartment, fuck her, and never see her again. It doesn’t get more logical than that.
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My words to El Suave are: I feel sorry for the girls you have met. Of course if it is mutual understanding and girl leaves your apartment with a smile in her face, I understand. However I have a feeling that the girls leave with tears on their cheek and tell themselves that they never go to bed with a western man ever again. If this is the case, this is harmful for all the men trying to get laid in Russia. My point is, that you should give good feeling to a girl; that she feels herself special, maybe even have breakfast together. Then it is more acceptable, and I have myself done it several times.

Poka, Maria

[Sid66]

El Suave wrote:
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And let me tell you the difference between a pro and non pro because you did ask. Take a Marstall hardcore pro who propositioned and slept with 23,000 swingers, you might call her the number one health hazard in Russia. A non pro might be your young sister, a college student or office worker, she might like nightclubbing and doesn’t mind sleeping with the occasional westerner every now and then. This non pro probably has under her belt merely 16 various punters. Do you see the difference from a health hazard point of view?
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So, why do you take pros, if your "charm" makes regular girls wet their pants? Because people can see your balls hanging from the legs of your pants? :-)

Poka, Maria

[Zeybek]

Hey GUYS!

Can't we all just accept that ALL WOMEN are *****S--Russian, Spanish, German, Australian, etc etc and learn to live with that. Let's face it, WE will try to get a woman in bed by any means necessary: Looks, Money, Charisma, Power, Sports Car, Bulging Muscles, sweet talkk, etc etc etc. These are all weapons in our arsenal.

But I do think that certain nations have women who tend to lean more towards the top in the International ***** Scale. Right after Thialand I think you would find Russian Women. But, that's just economics.

And all this chit chat about Western Man being this or that. When I was vacationing in Turkey I saw some really nasty local men bang the hell out of SuperModel like EE girls. And not even for more money.

I don't think Western Guys get Russian chicks because of wealth alone, I think they are just different. People like difference.

Adios

[Tokyo via AA]

So anyway, here's a report.

I'm not normally a bar-hopper, and that might have gotten in my way for my weekend in St.P.

On the first night, I went to Magrib at around 11:30 PM. My eyes almost fell out of their sockets - there were so many hot women there. But what I found really strange was that I couldn't really establish eye contact .. perhaps too old for that crowd (34)? I got one or two girls to smile back, but for the most part, blank stares. My experience in other bars of this ilk (mainly SE Asia, admittedly) is that you would get a response from the pros. I tried to talk to a few girls, but found none who spoke English. I tried to dance with a few girls, but again, not much eye contact and what I perceived as a cold shoulder. And I thought I dressed appropriately, but who knows.
Still, I stayed for a total of about four hours, because I was enjoying watching the scene. Truly some amazingly hot women, and great dancers.

I went back to the hotel at that point, and was trying to decide what to do for some stress relief. I knew I could go back out and find a strip club, but i was getting a bit tired.

On the recommendation of Frenchy Couple posted here (seems like a long time ago given the discussion this week) I called Liza Escorts. Their number was in one of the in-room magazines, and they have a website at liza-escort.spb.ru. They wanted $140 for an hour, based on the late hour. I foolishly agreed.

The girl Nelya arrived 40 minutes later. For a minute or two, things looked promising. But then she devolved into classic, worldwide, hooker mode. Oh, and she was on the rag, too!!!! It was like a bad nightmare. I finished the deed and sent her out, quickly.

The next night, after a full day of walking around seeing nothing but hotties on the street, I thought I would try Marstall instead. This seemed a bit more my scene...more variety age-wise, and a few of the bartenders spoke English. But I didn't chat them up, which I should have, since once again, I couldn't seem to get any conversation going with any of the girls. On a couple of occasions, it was clear to me when a girl was available, but for the most part, not. I enjoyed the people-watching, though, and the topless dancers that occasionally appeared. They also did a fun audience participation thing on the stage, though of course I didn't understand any of it.

I've travelled the world and never let my lack of local language skills get in the way before...not sure what was different this trip. I'm not sure it really was a problem, or if it was just me tired out quickly of trying. Still, for a man with patience, and some Russian skills, seems like St.P is a real goldmine.

[OttoGraham]

Originally posted by Sid66

I see some similarities in your writing to Kremlin King who wrote in Moscow forum few months ago and then disappeared. I think your writing is very arrogant and not so nice.

I was just about to say the same thing. Of course, there is not only one arrogant westerner having fun with Ruskayas. I've been accused of being arrogant, but it's really not true. You peasants are just too ignorant to understand. ;)



Originally posted by Sid66

I have a feeling you have been posting under different names earlier.

Really? Just El Suave? Kremlin King blazed across the WSG sky like a meteor last February, before burning up in the atmosphere. Maria, you've been posting here since October 1 - how could you remember a guy who made a couple of posts over half a year ago? Maybe El Suave isn't the only one with multiple handles......... ;)

Uncle Otto

[Vegamars]

Unlike the general belief, the EE girls, whether regular, semi-pro or pro, are not any different from the western girls except for their beauty, self-determination and intelligence.

I'm quite surprised by the western guys still getting in the same trap of the old trick '' oh, how I loved you from first sight'' or '' oh,baby, I'm so impressed by your personality, good manners and behaviour ''

It's all part of the game...

The important question is : Are you aware of the game and who's the real winner???

[CA Traveler]

s66... Acutally, I first had the observation in a post several weeks ago that Simon and KK are the same person because they were/are both very hostile and slammed everything and everyone, but the only real piece of information that both managed to provide were very detailed directions, address, phone, descriptions and pricing for the same (very rarely mentioned) club in Moscow.

Personally I don't see that in ElS, but haven't really studied his posts and who knows... only Jackson could tell us for sure.

Uncle O... IMHO, multiple handles are for the weak and cowardly among us... they know who they are!

Simon accused me of making almost all of the posts on the Moscow board... LOL, I'd have had to stay up all day and night for the past few years to have accomplished that feat.

As I recall, Uncle O actually met KK... Am I remembering this correctly?

[El Suave]

I believe gents like Vegemars, CA Traveler and Uncle Otto systematically illustrate their vast understanding of the Russian scene and what this board embodies and represents. As a newbie, I have a lot to learn from these gentlemen. Amongst other distinguished members, they are pillars from whom the Russian-bound westerner can amass tremendous knowledge.

I further believe that Poka Maria, otherwise known as Sid66 is a fictitious female. Prudence would dictate to treat this Poka character at best as a scorned ladyboy, and in the least a morphidite. In both cases, Sid falls in the realm of the irretrievably unattractive.

The description of this entity’s sexual escapade with Mr. Benz is a product of whimsical delusion. It’s unlikely Poka lightly brushed against a male since perestroika. Doubtless, Maria’s recollection of receiving DATY goes back to a dream contemporaneous with Poka’s male poodle licking her post surgical crotch. To help one conjure up this image, one can refer back to Vince Vaughn’s dream while sleeping on his couch in the movie Dodgeball.

Attractive, wholesome non pros do not find the need, nor have the desire to immerse themselves in the mongering business of adult men. They’re usually out working their charm and reaping tangible benefits from their beauty.

If Maria wants to dispel the mounting suspicions, if she wants to disprove she’s an eastern, disgruntled NGO informant out to belittle, discredit, deter and demoralize the western monger, she can simply post a picture of her tits and muff. To lend this photo credibility, maybe a Pravda paper next to said muff with a recent and legible date will do.

I’m willing to bet that if this photo ever materializes, the muff in it will appear in a Hitler coiffe.

[OttoGraham]

Nope, never met him. Wouldn't have minded to, however.

Uncle Otto

[Roger Mellie]

CAT - maybe it was just my impression, but got the clear idea KK and Simon were 2 very different guys. I dont think Simon knew much about Moscow. KK on the other hand was a pro.

Simon (the cheap Melbournian) was a different nationality too, and not someone worth wasting 2 minutes on, while as offensive as KK might have been, you cant help thinking a night out with him would be a night to remember. Of all the things you might say about KK, he definately wasnt cheap.

[El Suave]

Sid666,What can you tell about your past visits to Russia? Which cities have you visited, how many times you have been here etc. How about St Petersburg? Where do you spend your time here? Do you rent an apartment? Where?Wouldn’t you like to know. Before I tell you however, let me say I’m on to you. Your questions are reminiscent of veiled inquires designed by subversive, disruptive and probative NGOs to compile data, statistics and profiles on western sex travelers.

Nevertheless, and lest I be labeled arrogant, evasive and dismissive of the mediocre and bovine, I’ll divulge.

I travel to Russia four to five times a year, I divide my sojourns equally between Moscow and Pete. I never consider other cities for lack of comforts, conducive nightlife and sophistication of services.

Since we’re on Pete’s board, we’ll cover Pete: I invariably rent a penthouse in a plush, quaint and subdued residential neighborhood west of Isaakievskaya ploshchad, namely along Bolshaya Morskaya and environs. I won’t furnish you with the exact address cuz you’re a scary, Stalinist ladyboy.

“Where do you spend your time?” From now on, wherever you won’t be present, the idea of inadvertently running into you pretty much kills the entire trip. And although I've patronised Metro Club on Ligovskiy Pr. 174, I’m apprehensive about frequenting it on my next trip cuz you’re a patron.

Don’t you fret Poka, just cuz you’re Russian you don’t have a monopoly on Rossia’s gorodi, nor are you the only one in the know. In time and gradually, you’ll be weighed, measured, flattened and dismantled in your own back yard. Paka suchara.

[OttoGraham]

TokyoviaAA, nice first-time report! Sorry you didn't have more fun. :(

Uncle Otto

[Tokyo via AA]

Thanks Otto. Next time perhaps I'll out myself enough to see if any other readers will be in town at the same time as me. Maybe the fact that I was alone in these clubs was another mark against me. Who knows.

In the meantime, next trip to Europe is an FKK tour in Germany ending in Amsterdam. I think I'll be OK :)

[Sid66]

Otto Graham wrote:
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Maria, you've been posting here since October 1 - how could you remember a guy who made a couple of posts over half a year ago?
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Uncle Otto,

I was a viewing member until last spring, when there was some hassle about non-regular members not allowed to see Photo Gallery. That’s when I upgraded to regular member. Of course Jackson might be only one to confirm this. And I don’t have a dozen identities in my back pocket :-)

Anyway, I think that constant “username” change eats up the credibility of this forum, which is a shame, because there are many highly valued members, including yourself, whose contribution has helped several guys to achieve their goals.

Poka, Maria

[Humsup]

Snezhanna

I don't post very often but on this occasion I feel compelled to share my StP experiences. I intend to post details of all my activities but my introductory account is my private apartment experience in St. Petersburg.

Prior to my StP trip I conducted a great deal of research reading WSG posts, sending emails and checking Omem.ru profiles. I believe it was time well spent. The objective of my R&R trip was to cover the complete spectrum of mongering activities including finding frees - pros in bars/discos to the sauna & private apartment scene. I was particularly interested in the private scene as a fall back/daytime option. In fact I was diligent enough to compile a dossier of the girls containing their pertinent details which I used as my guide notes in StP.

My No. 1 Draft Pick. From my research on Omem.ru I identified Snezhanna as my highest ranked girl. Incidentally I have to thank Across69 for highlighting Omem.ru.

Anyway around 14:30 I called +7 812 970 4570 (within StP just dial the last 7 numbers) which I later discovered was a city based mobile/GSM/cell phone number and spoke to a woman. I asked if she spoke English and to my relief she was willing and could albeit in a broken manner. I said I wanted to see Snezhanna whom she confirmed was available. I asked if she could come to my hotel, she suggested it was better for me to visit her. The price was RUR 1,500 / 1hr, RUR 2,500 / 2hrs. She mentioned the apartment was near Moskovskie Vorota. Now, if you have been to StP I'm sure you can relate to my trepidation about going to an apartment. My concern is not the security but the fact these suckers are nearly impossible to find! Sometimes there are no markings plus multiple occupancies sharing the same street number. However as I later appreciated I'm glad I went to the apartment. Just to be double sure I went to cashier desk in my hotel and asked the girl if she would speak to the woman to confirm the location. I rang and they spoke, the cashier bird was very helpful and confirmed it was Moskovskie Vorota which is just as well because I thought it was different place.

StP Metro
The StP Metro system is excellent. Moskovskie Vorota is 4 stops south on the Blue or No. 2 line from Gostiny Dvor. The metro trip from Gostiny Dvor takes about 15 mins. Exit Moskovskie station you will be confronted by a monument or arch, a kind of mini, Soviet style Arc Triomphe. Cross the busy boulevard quickly and walk in a rightish direction and look for number 138. The woman suggested I call when I arrived at 138. I will post a photographic itinerary in the photos section but I lost the street numbers after 136. Anyway I rang and she said someone was coming down to meet me, after about 5 mins a tall girl popped out of door appearing to look for somebody, clearly she was after me so I approached her and she lead me to their apartment. In fact I discovered later it was Leana/Liana.

Apartment
I was expecting a brothel or commercial establishment. The apartments appear to be regular homes for girls who converge in the cities to study and earn money on the side. People may reach their own sexual conclusions but I was excited to screw a girl in her own room but paradoxically felt privileged to be invited to her home and be welcomed as a guest.

I recall the woman asking when I expected to arrive at the apartment. I said I would be there in an 1 hr. I took longer due to money exchange hassles but when I entered the apartment I saw the relevance of the question. She was wearing a black skimpy evening dress, make up, lipstick etc. and was indeed very visually appealing. The pictures and details on Omem are absolutely spot on. I can't describe her anymore accurately than the stats below. She led me to her room, asked for the time which I said 2hrs, I handed over the RUR 2,500, she proceeded to dispense with her clothes and asked me to take a shower. When I came back she was only wearing a towel. Like most Ruskis' she got promptly down to business with a CBJ, I asked but no BBBJ. Incidentally as with most Ruski service providers no AR, no CIM and no DFK but lots of tit rubbing and massage. Anyway I must have been her first customer because she put in a very vigorous CBJ. In fact she was so good I almost shot my load so asked her to hop on and do cowgirl. This lasted awhile before I switched to doggie and then rolled her over and finished her off. During the half-time break we engaged in an interesting conversation discussing her life in Russia. Apparently she studies English and wants to work in translation services. The apartment phone number is in fact her mobile number and I was actually speaking to her, she is perhaps the delegated apt manager due to her language skills. She has been involved in the work for a 3 months and may only continue for a few months so get in quick if you want to see her. The 2nd half was more of the same but much longer and more sensual. I tipped her RUR 200 and left a happy man.

Conclusion
It was definitely the highlight of the trip. She is a very attractive, genuine girl with a youthful air of innocence. IMHO a breath of fresh air in the foggy depression of polluted, cold, wet StP.

970-4570 Angelika, Renata, Olga, Leana, Kseneya,Snejanna $50

City Saint Petersburg
Name Snezhanna
Floor Woman
Purpose of the acquaintance Leisure
Age 20
Weight 47
Increase 161
Volume of grudi/talii/beder 85/58/86
Size of the breast 2
On itself
Hour 50
Two hours 80
Are somewhat hour 270

Pager 9704570 for the subscriber
City Saint Petersburg
Name Liana
Floor Woman
Purpose of the acquaintance Leisure
Age 18
Weight 54
Increase 175
Volume of grudi/talii/beder 87/64/87
Size of the breast 3
On itself Arrive and you will be able to feel tenderness and kindness of young body! I will be very glad to acquaintance with the family pair! The sensations, obtained with me will be brightest in your life!
Hour 50
Two hours 80
Are somewhat hour 250

[Humsup]

Tokyo via AA,

I was Magrib on the Sat 9 Oct and I totally agree with your assessment. That place is an eye candy factory! Models of all shapes & sizes parading around and shaking their stuff plus eye contact flying in all directions.

I will post my Magrib observations and experiences soon.

[Doctor_Skank]

During a recent excursion to St.Pete, I tried my luck at a salon. My luck failed me.

It wasn't like I wasn't well prepared, and I know lots of guys have done very well there, but I ended up at a grade C place.

Interested in finding any random salon or apartment, I bought a glossy contact magazine called "Zhurnal Znakomstva: Randevu". You can find it at many kiosks, and there are actually many mags just like it. Just ask for a "Journal Znakomstva" and you'll get it or a similar mag.

In it are literally hundreds of numbers. I picked a full size add, equating this somehow with quality, which would turn out to be wrong. I was reading the mag in a small cafe just off of Nevsky, the mildly cute waitress flirting with me until she saw me reading the journal... was a comical situation.

In any case, to make a long story short, the place is at 128 Nevsky, apartment 10. Through the arch next to the photo shop and immediately to your left in the courtyard. Pretty grim courtyard.

Humsup reported on it too, although he seemed to do better than I did.... especially with his very cute Snezhanna girl from the other apartment.

I ended up with a 22 year old Ukrainian. Body and face OK, but she just looked like she'd been through the wringer one too many times.

Price was 1400 rubles if I remember correctly for an hour of sex, of which I'd only want 15. Dingy facilities, average girl, only drinks were tea.

N fault of her own really, but she somehow turned me off, I just wasn't into it. I didn't ask to kiss her. Was happy she only gave me a CBJ and after hurrying to finish, I told her I was done after 15 minutes. Some basic conversation confirmed that she had been in St.Pete for 2 years already... a long time in the business.

I didn't want a round two. Somehow the atmosphere just isn't for me, I'll try to find a more luxury place next time. I told her she could get dressed and I sat on the couch outside waiting for my friend for a while. Maybe I was just too tired, or maybe it was the cold rain... but this just wasn't a St.Pete highlight for me. The sex was standard decent basic stuff.... like at an Amsterdam redlight window or a budget German FKK.

Here is a view of the facilities.

[Member #4732]

I may finally get to take my long deferred visit to St. Pete. The closest I have come before was the fabulous Micado Club in Helsinki.

Question for the veterans. I may be able to squeeze some time in to visit Moscow as well. The Omen web site has a lot of listings and they appear to be of real women judging by quality of photos and variety. The www.prostitutki.ru, Moscow, on the other hand has an outrageous collection of playboy quality pictures.

What should I conclude from that? Is the Moscow based prostitutki site just a massive bait and switch operation or are the girls in Moscow that hot?

By comparison the babes on the Omen site for St. Pete are few and far between. Any answer on this would be appreciated.

[Humsup]

Rovnak,

I can personally confirm the profiles, phone numbers and pictures on Omen are real. I spent time with a StP girl who advertised on Omen and it was 100% accurate. Although her pictures were shot under studio conditions and with possible digitial enhancements it was the same girl. I guess it makes business sense to be honest plus they tend to normal girls, my girl was a student. However if you see pictures of Carmen Electra or equivalents in those glossy magazines mentioned by Doc_Skank then it's probably BS and likely to be the complete opposite, if you have reservations do as I did and target 'normal' photo profiles.

Anyway I have attached my Omen St. Petersburg specific search link, age < 30, height < 175cm, weight < 60kg. I hope you find it useful. You may have to cut and paste each line into the http Address line.

http://an.aport.ru/scripts/template.dll?z0=lh%5FObjective%3D11%2Clh%5FGender%3D2%2Cl%5FAge%3D18%2Ch%5FAge%3D30%2Ch%5FLength%3D175%2Ch%5FWeight%3D60%2Clh%5FCity%3D3%2Clh%5FPhoto%3D1&base=love1&Tn=2&Ini=20.ini&Rt=2&sf=timestamp&Sort=8&p=1

Or if you have problem you could try from 1st principles:

http://omen.ru/love/poiski.htm

You can translate websites on:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

Good luck.

[Humsup]

The Rules of Engagement

Experiences at Magrib & Rossi's from the perspective of a non-caucasian, 33yr old.

Magrib:

Magrib is your typical upmarket ex-pat venue. It's not bad and caters for everything in terms of food & entertainment with the restaurant & disco. One problem is the toilet, one unisex toilet for all restaurant patrons. Prices are not cheap but Western standard food. Food is okay if you can reconcile eating Japanese food in a Moroccan setting. I came to know Magrib and it's style because I visited the place consecutively over a number of days. My objective was to scope the place and to assess it's modus operandi.

Day 1:

I walked into Magrib around 22:00 and found a strategically located table on the restaurant side and ordered a drink. The restaurant is broken up into partitions or sections with clusters of tables. My partition was full of girls who appeared to be 'working' but off duty. It was pretty obvious they were working given their tight revealing clothes, lack of conversation and 'wingman' configuration i.e. pairs. They were all good looking and worth the $ but they must have been off duty or preparing for duty because they did not initiate or sustain any 'lock' (eye contact), strange? Anyway after watching all the 'models' I retreated to my hotel feeling hot & horny (I didn't know about the disco).

Rule 1 - It's better to bug out and fight another day than push a bad position i.e. never fuck a hotel hooker.

I broke a major rule of engagement. On the way up to my room in the hotel I noticed the hookers loitering around the lobby. In hindsight not the best looking but screwable given my desperation for sexual fulfilment at the time. Anyway I struck a conversation with a girl who wanted RUR3,500 / 1hr. Given my preliminary research I already knew it was expensive but I was clearly not thinking of my wallet. I said RUR 3,000 which see accepted and she arranged to meet in my room in 5 mins.

- The 1st warning sign, pay first. Fine, so no tip but it was a pre-cursor to average performance.

- 2nd annoyance, no photos. Fuck, for that $ I couldn't even take pictures of the dog in her clothes. That's fucked.

- No kissing or BBBJ and to compound the situation she performs a 1 min BJ and jumps straight on, then pants and moans for a few mins and asks if I'm done. That was it, it totally killed my mood.

- Short Hour. I asked for a massage but she said the time was up (after 40 mins) and that she had to get back or her pimp would give her a hard time. Fuck, as if I was born yesterday.

This is the first occasion I felt like pulling out and sending the girl off prior to finishing my time. I just put it towards a bad experience and tuition fees. Incidentally, the Moskva Hotel is a dump. I rate it an optimistic 1 star. It's big, noisy with a shitty bathroom & toilet and very unfriendly staff. I don't recommend staying there and given the presence of hotel hookers probably not conducive to mongering activities.

Day 2, 3, 4

Magrib Disco - The Market

The problem with the disco girls in Magrib is it very difficult to distinguish between the normal and working girls. My observations:

- Mounting Yard. It's similar to the mounting yard at the horse races where they parade around. The pros follow a similar routine. She walks past, you give her a penetrating 'lock', she skews to halt beside you, loiters for a few mins, goes out to the dance floor and performs for you and once she has your attention head to the toilets or the raised area at the back of the disco to await your approach.

- Dancing. Normal girls will dance and do so for prolonged periods of time. The pros/semi-pros also dance but for short sharp bursts to generally highlight their implied sexual ability.

- Configuration. They seem to working in formations of 2 or 3.

- Handbags. The working girls have their handbags with them at all times presumably to enable a quick getaway.

The cover charge RUR 300 on Saturday. IMHO it's worth it if only to sample the marvellous Slavic eye candy, you're guaranteed not to see an ugly bird.

Rule 2 - An example of what not to do - Don't ask "how much" without first establishing if she's a hired hand.

I crashed and burned chatting up an 18yr old hottie. The conversation was progressing nicely when I asked if she wanted to come to my hotel thinking she was for hire. She asked "for what" (was she naïve?) so I countered by asking "how much". That was a mistake because it set her off, she went into a tirade about me thinking she was a prostitute. Well, her looks belied here age and her skimpy dress gave a different message.

It's amazing what you can get away with in Russian and on Russian women. Here's a classic. I chatted to a hot, blond girl at the cloakroom on my way out. I asked 'What's your name" (non-aggressive opening line), she replied "Aleesa", "What do you do?" (a filler question) - "I work in a casino", "Where are you going?" (getting to the point) - "Home to sleep…", I said "Why don't you come back to my hotel?" (She was leaving so I didn't have time to muck around) - "No, I'm really tired and want to go home to sleep but thanks anyway". I couldn't believe it, she actually contemplated my offer! If I tried that at home I would have been slapped or told to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off.

Rossi - "Even Goose could laid in a place like this..."
The cover was RUR 200 (men) / 100 (women) on Friday. A more youngish crowd than Magrib. There is plenty of eye contact and an abundance of hot looking girls. IMHO on the night they had better looking girls than Magrib. I was with female company so I was constrained but it looks fairly easy to pick up girls in Rossi's. I noticed the Russian women respond well to pick up overtures. I suspect they get little or no quality attention from the local guys so they respond to the basic 'lock' and a smile. It kind of gives them a 'head's up' to expect your approach. There was an amateur stripe tease show that night so I was humorously wondering what to say to a participant "I feel I already know you because I've seen your tits!".

Conclusion
I've worked in Central/Slavonic Europe for a few years plus I've circled the globe a number of times to sightsee and sample local produce. Clearly everyone has their own tastes and preferences but from my experience I think Russian women are the best looking women in the world. What stands out about Russian women as opposed to the rest of the world is their quality, height, range and volume. The Russians also have amazing ethnic diversity which makes sense for a country that spans Scandinavia, the Stans, Asia, North Korea.

Russia is definitely the place to monger and/or find your 'model' wife/mistress.

[Mohctep]

I just could not help but say, that it seems to me highly ineffective to go to RUS to fuk pros. One can get better service in Canada or Latin Amer. with less hassles better weather and relatively more safety.
My point is. If you are not on a market to go after non pro action due to your age or lack of RUS language skills,then you are wasting your time money and risking your health and in some cases life for nothing.
Average RUS pro looks jut that....: average. Judging by photos posted on this board most of the girls are plain ugly.
I understand that it is pretty exciting to walk the streets of St-Pete or Moscow and soak in all that sexual energy and eye candy that streets are offering. But to go and sleep with ugly *****s after (like many do) ,would make me only frustrated and bitter instead of happy and content. Guys lets face the reality.
If you don't go after non-pros in RUS you doing the version of this: "Watching good erotic flick and then going and fuking your fat and unattractive wife”, if you catch my drift.
P.S. If you in RUS regularly on business then by all means hire a fuking RUS language teacher and start conversing with those girls. Why? Is it worth it?
RUS women are so much fun in conversation you will have a blast. It is nothing like conversing with a western 20 y.o. By the age of 20 RUS are much more developed mentally and much more romantic then their western counterparts.
Here is example of quick exchange with 21 y.o. girl at a party.
Me: I am too old and frail for you sweetie. I am tired and have to sleep alone tonight.
She: Well I am young healthy and full of energy.
Me: That is exactly my point. That is why we no good together:))
She: Well you might know that two "-" repel each other But one "-" and one "+" will always attract .:))
Laughing my ass off.......
I can live another 10 years in US and I would never hear sexy 21 y.o. girl saying anything even close to that.
God bless mother Russia :)))

[Member #4732]

Mohctep,

You make some good points. But much of your logic is predicated on stating that the pros are ugly or average looking.

So if you go to Maghrib, where there is a mixture of pro and non-pro, and the 5 hottest girls there are pros, does that undermine your position? Are yoou saying that all pros are equal, in reading these boards, it seems many are of the opinion that a large number of the working girls are not full time sex workers but part time semi-pro's if you will.

[Member #4732]

Humsup,

Thank you for the link. I am familiar with the site. FYI, this translation service appears to work a bit better than babelfish.

http://www.online-translator.com/url/tran_url.asp?lang=en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fomen.ru%2Flove%2Fpoiski.htm&direction=re&template=General&cp1=NO&cp2=NO&autotranslate=on&transliterate=on&psubmit2.x=24&psubmit2.y=15

This one handles the omen home page whereas babelfish generates an error.

[Marconista]

Pulskovskay Hotel (Pobedo Square), close to airport.

Stayed overnight (with friends), no opportunity for P4P :( . The standard of the hotel has improved a lot since my last stay in 2001. USD.150 a night.

Noticed 3 WG's in the lobby at about 2300 hours. Did not get the chance to ask costs, but they all looked about 5-6, and in their late 20'ies.

Security absolutely present, and they stopped a girl from entering the hotel. I guess business was to slow that night, so they did not want to ruin the marked with more ladies than guests :)

[Shostakovich]

Hi fellow mongers,

if somebody is in town this weekend and able to have some drinks or more with me. Please let me know.

Shos

[Brian Moloney]

Dear Sir,

I have read your posts, You are honest truthfull man. I respect you. I am comming to Saint Petersberg December 28th and leaving March 1st. In my eyes you are straight honest shooter, you tell no lies. I would be honor to meet you and spend time with you, if I should be so lucky. I am a Canadian from British_Columbia. I hope you consider my offer and I would not only be gratefull but extreemly thankfull. Besides you are the MAN in all readers eyes that read your posts You do not Bull shit. And I can tell from your writting you also have a heart and you treat these beauties with respect and dignity. Sincerly Yours Brian Moloney

[Sid66]

My idea was to have interesting conversation in St Pete forum. Why do I find this forum empty? In Pete 5 million people, why why why no conversation. And please El Soave, do not write so difficult language, I am only a girl from the kolhos!

El Suave,

I did not really mean to make you feel angry, but it was very entertaining to read your comments :-) I only hope that girls you have made so happy with your dick would make reservations in your Bolshaja Marskaja apartment next time! I am a freebie also!

Poka, Maria

[Shostakovich]

Interesting picture Doc! What is behind the courtain???


During a recent excursion to St.Pete, I tried my luck at a salon. My luck failed me.

It wasn't like I wasn't well prepared, and I know lots of guys have done very well there, but I ended up at a grade C place.

Interested in finding any random salon or apartment, I bought a glossy contact magazine called "Zhurnal Znakomstva: Randevu". You can find it at many kiosks, and there are actually many mags just like it. Just ask for a "Journal Znakomstva" and you'll get it or a similar mag.

In it are literally hundreds of numbers. I picked a full size add, equating this somehow with quality, which would turn out to be wrong. I was reading the mag in a small cafe just off of Nevsky, the mildly cute waitress flirting with me until she saw me reading the journal... was a comical situation.

In any case, to make a long story short, the place is at 128 Nevsky, apartment 10. Through the arch next to the photo shop and immediately to your left in the courtyard. Pretty grim courtyard.

Humsup reported on it too, although he seemed to do better than I did.... especially with his very cute Snezhanna girl from the other apartment.

I ended up with a 22 year old Ukrainian. Body and face OK, but she just looked like she'd been through the wringer one too many times.

Price was 1400 rubles if I remember correctly for an hour of sex, of which I'd only want 15. Dingy facilities, average girl, only drinks were tea.

N fault of her own really, but she somehow turned me off, I just wasn't into it. I didn't ask to kiss her. Was happy she only gave me a CBJ and after hurrying to finish, I told her I was done after 15 minutes. Some basic conversation confirmed that she had been in St.Pete for 2 years already... a long time in the business.

I didn't want a round two. Somehow the atmosphere just isn't for me, I'll try to find a more luxury place next time. I told her she could get dressed and I sat on the couch outside waiting for my friend for a while. Maybe I was just too tired, or maybe it was the cold rain... but this just wasn't a St.Pete highlight for me. The sex was standard decent basic stuff.... like at an Amsterdam redlight window or a budget German FKK.

Here is a view of the facilities.

[Bimbo Boy]

MOHCTEP, what you say really makes sense. Could you please recommend us a good place for hiring a fun and interesting language teacher?

Regards.

Bimbo Boy

[QUOTE=mohctep]I just could not help but say, that it seems to me highly ineffective to go to RUS to fuk pros. If you in RUS regularly on business then by all means hire a fuking RUS language teacher and start conversing with those girls. Why? Is it worth it?

RUS women are so much fun in conversation you will have a blast.

[Mike #3]

Does anyone have experience with www.petersburg-lodging.com ?
It looks nice on the photos, however from what I read in this forum it can also become a big disappointment, depending upon the company that ytou rent from.
Any other recommendations for apartments in SPB that have a good price/quality ratio based on your experience?

Thanx for any advice.

[John05]

There are hotels in St Petes for $120 per night. THat is rather a high price for an apartment but the city is not very customer oriented. I think that you would like the beds in some of the hotels over the apartments. Russia has beds with a small amount of matress padding and no box springs. You will benefit from the security in the hotels as well.

I stayed near the Nevsky river in the Moscva hotel. It has a card access for the room and great view of the river. Also not far from Nevsky.

[CA Traveler]

J05...

I'm confused. In this thread you are pushing this hotel because of the great security and in the photo gallery you make this statement...

"Took her to the Moscva hotel and registered her. The next day security was blocking her entrance to the elevator and asking for her papers. It was like one of those Nazi movies. If you don't have your papers do they shoot you. Security in Russia is the Russian Mafia looking for protection money. Everyone knows it but you can do nothing to stop them"

Personally, I agree with your statement in the photo gallery. In my experience, Spb hotel security is the worst and even in Moscow hotel security is a pain in the ass with the exception of the Marriotts and a few other rare hotels.

In RU, apartments are the ONLY way to go. Even if the apartment is the same price as the hotel, it is usually more private and more comfortable.

Mike #3... You are correct, many companies offer different levels of quality/cleanliness/amenities/etc and it is critical that you research which companies offer the best service. The best way to determine which apartment rental companies offer the best value is to use the resources of this site and others. I wish you luck.

[John05]

I am not pushing any hotel in Russia. I think that most of them in SPB are WAY over priced for what you get. IMHO, it is not going to be easy to get rid of the Russian Mafia, so finding an apartment would be my recommendation.

It just seems that, for a place with tons of hookers, SPB should be a little more girl friendly in their hotels.

[Nyfiken]

Hi.

I was reading nearly two years back about a place called Salon SPA "AELITA" they are at 179 Moskovsky Prospect (St. Petersburg). Next to the Jaguar Dealership. You have to go around to the side of the building near the very back. As I was staying at Htl. Pulkovskaya it was just a quick walk from the htl. First time I purchased a 60 minute erotic body massage for 1800 rubles and recieved an amazing massage and release from an 20+ year old read head called Lisa. I must say I have paid for real pussy but got a lot worse than this. When she was riding me I could have sweared I got the real thing... She was sooooo hot, and didn't even ask for any money. Next day I went back and tried a girl with rasta hair. Took a VIP room with sauna and jacussi for 3200 rubles. Did not work out the same as the day before. Next day I was leaving but went there 1100am to see if Lisa was back. She was and this time a erotic soap massage was ordered with only one girl. 2800 rubles. Nice body to body and releif. I can reccomend a try here if you feel for a nice massage or a warm soap scrub. Their number is 387-1408 and 387-1415 and they speak good english. Also, they have a nice place, and a relaxed atmosphere.

[My Taiga]

Hi Nyfiken,

In my previous trip to STB, I went to AELITA twice and really loved that place. I got a chance to know a Russian guy. He told me that AELITA was designed for those "high-class" customers and supposed to have the best girls. Here is the web site: www.aelita-spa.spb.ru.

Thanks for the recommand. I don't find Lisa on their web site (the web site may not be updated). It is my first time to post a thread here. Say Hello to everyone.

Beside of AELITA, is there any other message salon that can speak english?

[Atticus Duck]

Hi All,

I will be visiting Spb in April. Can anyone recommend at good private apartment for rent in the central area?

Thanks

[Guy #2]

Hello all,

One comment and one question.

1. Thanks for the Aelita spa post. But I looked at it and it says "No intimate services". It sounds like a jack off shop and the girls are not drop dead gorgeous as the girls on redclub.ru or zna.ru. For $64, a jerk off seems expensive. The idea of travelling all the way to Russia to find hot women because the western women in your country only work in jack off shops and then to pay $64 for a jackoff shop is depressing. Is there no sex? If not, I'd say fuck 'em. By the way the spa's website looks great and has an ENglish version. But then it makes me wonder whether some jag off westerner started Aelita and introduced this western concept of paying $64 to jerk off to Russia, the last bastion of getting laid with hot chicks for less than that.

2. On a more serious note, I have a question. I had always planned to go to St. Petersburg but I bypassed this board after reading that the HIV infection rate is higher in St. Petersburg than Moscow. The news reports I read said the reason is because the girls are not organized and their is more girls shooting up in St. Petersburg than in Moscow and that the agencies in Moscow do not tolerate girls using drugs. ANy truth to that? That is why I am cautious about going to ST. Petersburg vs Moscow.

3. Last stupid question. If you are showering or bathing or even sitting in the water at a spa with these girls, and they are infected, can the water carry the virus?

Thanks. I really hope that you can get laid at the spa. I am not trying to ruin your fun. But your posts sound like they are jack off shops. That is really depressing to hear that you have to pay $64 to get jerked off or to dry hump someone. What is the world coming to?

[Nyfiken]

I admit that you are right in some of your observations. There are no intimate services provided, but I went to St. Petersburg on a business trip, not by a sex trip. The sex could have been the bonus.

I tried to get someone via Omen.ru but it is hopeless if you do not speak any Russian. I spent hours on metro stations to be picked up after making arrangements, but it failed two times. (at least I thought we had an arrangement).
St Petersburg is cold and windy at this time. All I can say is that I really enjoyed the $64 for a nice warm scrub body to body with a nice girl at that time. If my only reason to go to St. Petersburg was to get laid I would have been disappointed too. I have been there before a couple of times, and last time I was very lucky and found someone on Omen.ru that spoke English. Regarding your "last stupid question" I do not know. I just hope.

[Atticus Duck]

In answer to my own question from a few days ago - If you are looking for a short-term apartment in the center area of Spb try:

www.cityrealtyrussia.com or

http://apartment-rentals-russia.com/ "arent apartments"

[Seek Rus]

This shold be in the general info, but i put it here cause happend in St Pete. Just be careful.

ST. PETERSBURG, Russia - Assailants attacked Angolan, Bangladeshi and Chinese students in three separate weekend incidents, officials said Monday, the latest in a series of racially motivated assaults that underscore growing violent racism in Russia.

The Angolan student was attacked by several people in a subway station Sunday night. The 26-year-old was hospitalized with head injuries and knife wounds, said Desire Deffo, deputy head of the African Union in St. Petersburg. The student was in satisfactory condition Monday.

Deffo said the Angolan student reported that the assailants looked like skinheads, and the Interfax news agency reported that at least two people were detained.

A fifth-year medical student from Bangladesh was attacked Saturday by a group of people near a subway station in the north of the city. Mozibul Haque, the head of the Bangladeshi community in St. Petersburg, said the student was hospitalized with head wounds.

Also Saturday, a group of unknown people beat a Chinese student from the St. Petersburg Music Conservatory on the city's main avenue, Nevsky Prospect. The student was also hospitalized with head wounds, Interfax said.

No one answered the phones at the police department Monday.

Deffo said racial attacks had become more frequent in St. Petersburg in recent months, leaving foreigners afraid to walk the streets. He blamed inaction by law enforcement agencies.

"Many attackers remain without punishment and feel they can keep doing it," he said.

Racist attacks on Jews, dark-skinned foreigners and people from Russia's North Caucasus have become increasingly frequent in Russia's big cities, reflecting a rise in xenophobia and racism. Non-government experts estimate about 50,000 skinheads are active in Russia.

[Sonidos]

Seek Rus,

Thanks for the warning. I cautioned non-white mongers about this last year and some mongers took it lightly. My caution was from personal and a cousin's (he almost died) experience. It is sad and unfortunate but it is a reality. I still miss my Russian friends but I don't intend on visiting Russia anytime soon.

Have fun but be safe.

Member #1846

[Member #2744]

It is very difficult and maybe slightly unfair to generalize this. Especially from a small overshadowing number of very bad and disgraceful incidents. But I appreciate such an 'experience' can be really bad.

If you are at the wrong time at the wrong place and maybe in the eyes of these strange offenders you behave different you may get into problems everywhere.

What I like to state is that can happen everywhere, everytime in most parts of the world for very different reasons.

I myself went into an armed robbery in Miami, lost a golden ring, a golden necklace and my 'second' purse with a couple of 100's dollars and my passports.

As it happened on the second day of my holiday trip I was able to get new passports and life continued. I only lost my permanant US visa, which wasn't put in my new passport afterwards.

I still travel to US from time to time, although being an European I prefer to be in Europe, especially in Eastern Europe. I'd only wish I'd had more time for the hobby.

[Romeo1]

St Petersburg has lovely escorts. Use the St Petersburg Times on-line or paper classifieds and enjoy. I saw a beautiful 20 year old college student in her apartment for 2 hours ($150, plus $15 for the apartment). She was sweet, served tea, kissed and was affectionate. She was so attractive-- 5'10'', thin, medium breasts--that we had to do it 3 times in the two hours. I recommend Lena's "CATS" service, though, several other attractive girls from the on-line services were free, but didn't have apartments. I recommend having a cab driver use his cell phone to locate the place if you go out--the cyrillic and pronunciations are tough. I think if you were a good dancer, Magribs would be the same, for free. The ratio of females to males was 3:1 and only about a quarter appeared to be professionals, most were young girls having fun. Fairly hard looking *****s approached me coming out of the nightclub and in my hotel, looking for $100 business.

[Handyman #2]

This was the city that we flew into and the airport was not as big as you would expect for this size of city. It was also very easy to get through quickly, customs and immigrations was a 30 second each type stop. It is on the edge of town but they do have numerous bus line going to it.

Luckily the host company had a van lined up with the driver holding a sign with our names on it. We got in and started on our three hour trip to Novogard the Great (see other cities for that report). There were three check points on the way to that city.

After three days in Novogard the Great we returned to Saint Petersberg and
what can I say, I fell in love with Saint Petersberg! It is one of the most beautiful cities in the world with marvelous architecture and tons of tourist things to do. The ladies are beautiful, food is great and most of the time people are friendly, although you do have to watch out for con artists here. Don't buy a Rolex on the street, it is a fake and an easily spotted one that you would not wear if you bought it.

First the hotels: The first night we stayed at a very fancy tourist hotel where everything was expensive, food, rooms and the girls. Drinks would cost you about $15 for a beer. The girls were quoting $500 a night. It was something like King something on the main street. It was just too fancy for my taste, who wants to wear a suit and tie (or more) to just get a bite to eat or have a drink? Location was great but over $300 a night wasn't sensible to us although the host business was picking up the tab for the room and food.

The next day our Russian guide checked us all into a five story huge hotel that was down the street from the King something and across from one of the railroad stations. The rooms were actually bigger but not as plush. It had several places to eat and a bar or two on every floor. The price was less than $35.00. This was my type of hotel! Although it looked more like a prison than a hotel on the outside, it was comfortable on the inside. I even had a view of the traffic circle and the railroad station. It was also right on the subway line and bus lines. Very convient too. Maybe 200 yards from the expensive plush palace. Food was good and cheap, drinks were under $5 for a mixed drink and the women, while not as well dressed were quoting $150-$250 a night. I was even offered $250 for two girls for the night at 2am. The blond I chose was a little too thin and had only a B chest but she was very active and would do anything including bbbj and CIM as well as greek.

Public transportation is the best I have ever experienced. The subway is cleaner and faster than London or New York. The only strange thing is the lacking of talking as you ride down the escalator. No one talked above a whisper. You could easily spot the foreigner because they were talking normally which sounded loud in comparison. And they are some of the longest escalators I have ever seen. The subway is very deep underground. Buses were plentiful up until about 11 or 12 pm after that you might have to wait a half hour. Taxi were all over the place but not the cheapest. But if you raised your hand a regular car would stop and take you where you wanted to go for 1/2 the price of the normal taxi.

Food: Simply great, the only better food that I have had is in Argentina. And not too expensive unless you go to the tourist type places for foreigners.

We visited the Hermitage which I also think is either called the Winter Palace or it is connected. We also did a walk through of a naval museum that was across the street from them. I could spend several days just going through these three and not be bored. There are numerous cafes and bars in this area that seem to have there fair share of working girls. And are fun places to hang out too.

The normal non-pro ladies seemed very helpful and friendly so freebies are not out of the question here. The weather was miserable to say the least with the cold and snow, but I still enjoyed every minute I was here. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a cheap visit, but I had a great time here. The one complaint I had was with the heat in the hotel. You don't have control over the heat for each room. It was either by floor or maybe the entire building. If I didn't have a bed warmer, it would have been really cold.

We had several site surveys to conduct in this city so I didn't get to see anywhere close to even 5% of the city although we were here for five days. It is on my list to return to in the near future.

We left at 7 pm on the night train to Moscow (see that section for that report). I really want to return here as soon as I can, it was such a beautiful place.

[Handyman #2]

For those of you that want to travel to Russia on a business visa without actually having business there.

Advantage of business visa: No hotel stay required, can stay in an apartment and travel freely anywhere in Russia without approval.

Disadvantage of a business visa: You have to register it in the Ministry of Commerce (not 100% sure of which ministry but there they will direct you when you go) and there is one lady there that I nicknamed Witch Hazel. She really has a problem with any American doing business in Russia and makes every effort to disapprove it and make you leave Russia (within three business days of entry).

Since it was my responsibility to get the visa for Russia, I did an internet search for buisness visa for Saint Petersberg, Russia. I only had a selection of three or four and went with the cheapest. I had to wait for about a month for the paperwork to be initiated and approved in Saint Petersberg and then sent on to me in the states, before I could send it on to the Embassy in San Francisco, CA. I was so close on time that I really didn't pay any attention to all of the forms, but it had all been approved with every office stamping it, so I thought it was correct. When I tried to register it in Saint Petersberg is where I found out that the sponsor of my business visa was also a marriage agency (didn't say that on the link that I applied for it on) and Witch Hazel spotted it right away. BIG PROBLEM! She was convinced I was there checking out women and wanted me gone!

It took many faxes from my host company to convince her I was there for legitimate business. And it really looked like I would be returning to the states without a chance to bid on the contract I was there for. So for those of you who would like to take a short cut to get a business visa be very careful or you will be going home in three business days. Luckily, there was a Russian holiday there or I would have had to leave.

A word to the wise!

[Bez Bezarra]

There's a better business visa, a monkey business visa.
Only registering you need is with the mamachka, but not
your visa! Maybe just pizda!

[Peter The Great I]

This research took place during 7 days in December 2004 but because of problems with WSG server during the months thereafter my post was delayed. I will describe how I found girls and how they performed in their apartments and in my place. Prices varied between 600 and 2000 rubles per hour.

As I was a newbie at that time I ran into some basic problems. Therefore I decided also to include a lot of practical information for beginners. I will include information about prices, public transport, taxis, safety and how to find a girls’ address. As I speak intermediate Russian, I herewith reflect what a Russian speaking foreigner will find on the domestic (=Russian speaking) p4p market in St. Pete.

Reading the St. Petersburg and Moscow threads of this forum, I got the feeling that all action is currently happening in Moscow, given the posts of some honourable members to whom I express my gratitude. Special thanks to CA Traveler, Dr. Skank, Shostakovich and Stravinsky. I hope to meet some you guys for a beer one day. St. Petersburg has a lot to offer and I hope that Piter will be back in the spotlights after this humble contribution.

Going to their apartments

Being adventurous I wanted to try some of the apartments in St. Pete that host working girls. You can find listings of them on www.omen.ru (only in Russian) and in two printed magazines that are distributed on the streets (also in Russian, forgot the names). If you want to make a booking in such an apartment, you should speak Russian at least at intermediate level because their knowledge of English is mostly near to zero. I met a few exceptions though. All directions are given in Russian, so you have to understand the grammatical concepts of time (when), space (where). By the way: the Russian language has a steep learning curve, so keep in mind that you do not speak “intermediate” Russian after studying the Berlitz phrase book. You might be able to splutter a phrase or two but you won’t even get close to understanding the answers.

The reward is worth the effort however. If you travel, like I did, to apartments in the outskirts of St. Pete you will get laid for two hours for 2500 rubles with beautiful Russian girls who rarely see a foreigner during winter.

In the beginning I felt a little insecure about travelling to the outskirts (up to 45 minutes metro ride from the city centre), especially after dark. And in December this is already after 15:30. However after some time you get used to the desolate metro stations, black-dressed, never-smiling people and large blocks of Soviet flats. During my metro journeys I killed the time by reading a book, which often attracted the attention of the dyev sitting next to me because it was in a non-Russian language. This little trick worked, at least in winter in the outskirts and not during rush hour. I would not recommend doing this when men sit next to you.

The quality of the apartments varied from dark and worn-out komunalkas to recently western-style renovated flats with laminated floors. They were always occupied by friendly girls who were happy to help you, albeit it in Russian.

The apartment girls

Once you have mastered all hurdles you suddenly find yourself in a spacious, completely renovated flat close to metro station Park Pabedy. There I spent two hours with a 23-year-old beauty called Nastya. She did her best to create a romantic atmosphere by lightning about 10 small candles in the room and putting the light out. Got a CBJ which was OK and fucked her nice shaven pussy in doggy position. I spent almost half of my paid time talking to her. 1 shot / 2500 rubles.

Another one from the same apartment was a 30-year-old very petite (1.52m/38 kg) doll called Ksana. Her performance was a little less than Nastya however fucking such a petite girl was an experience on itself. Amazing how she took it all. 2 shots/2500 rubles/2 hours.

On the other side of the spectrum there were musty and dark apartments near metro stations Moskovskie Vorota and Kurchino. When you enter this environment for the first time it might intimidate you somewhat, but remember that you are like a treasure hunter, a kind of Indiana Jones. The girls stay there because it’s cheap, not to frighten you. And the quality of the apartment is no indication for the quality of the girls. You might well find some hidden jewels.

One was an 18-year-old from Uzbekistan with an athletic body and very nice size C breasts. In the beginning she was a little reserved however after DATY and fingering her tight ass for some time she got aroused and very, very wet. We fucked for more than half an hour and almost fell out of the bed. After a short pause we went for round two. She gave me a CBJ and I fucked her standing upright. The only disadvantage was that her skin felt like sand paper. 2 shots. 3000 rubles / 2 hours.

The other one was a petite 20-year-old girl next door with nice teeny tits. She loved to ride on top but did not seem to enjoy other positions. She came violently once, strongly squeezing her pussy. The second round she was more relaxed and we performed carezza for almost an hour. 2 shots. 2500 rubles / 2 hours.

Karina came from the far eastern regions and was indeed a Pearl of the East. She was very romantic and a total GFE. She started with a full body Thai massage rubbing my dick between her firm B size tits. Her pussy was closed but opened as a lotus flower after DATY. She was tight, very tight. She used her vaginal muscles. She was sitting on top of me and she could make me come by only squeezing with her muscles. It was a crazy experience. The only thing I had to do was lie down and come. 2 shots / 3000 rubles.

Safety in the apartments

We probably heard stories of men getting robbed (or drugged) when visiting apartments but I think it very seldom happens (if ever). I suspect that those men were already drunk before they entered the apartment which made them an easy target. During my apartment visits I never had the idea that something might happen to me. If you feel insecure, follow your senses and take the usual precautions: go by daylight, only drink mineral water from a sealed bottle (or don’t drink at all), “accidentally” walk into the adjacent rooms to check who’s there, or simply leave. Don’t carry more cash then strictly necessary (about 2 times the price you are planning to pay for the girl) and leave your credit cards at a safe place so when you your wallet is stolen it wont be a disaster.

Travelling to the apartments and back

Travelling from/to the apartments in the evening hours must be planned carefully if you use public transport. All public transport in St. Pete is dead after midnight. Plan your last visit to end around 22:30 so that you have plenty of time to return home. Remember that a walk to the metro station can take half an hour or more. When there is no public transport you can take a taxi (expensive for foreigners) or stop a private car and negotiate about the price. The latter is not advised for beginners. The best way is to let the girls arrange a return taxi for you.

Taxis

There has been written a lot about taxis in St. Pete and the prices they charge for foreigners. A reasonable company is Taxi Blues (271 88 88). They quote the approximate price for the journey beforehand. For a ride from the city centre to the airport they charged me about 500 rubles which is not a bad price, given that most hotels and apartment rental companies will charge you anything between 750 and 1500 rubles. Every now and then they have an English speaking operator.

Finding a girls’ address in St. Pete

Finding an address in St. Pete can be a pain in the ass if you don’t know how it works. When you have called a girl and decided to go to her, she will give you the address of the apartment where she resides. Addresses consist of three to five parts: street name (ulitsa, улица), building number (dom, дом) and apartment number (kvartira, квартира), often preceded by the closest metro station (stantsiya metro, станция метро). Buildings can be as large as 200x200 meters with multiple entrances (all closed) and code locks. Building numbers are often not visible and apartment numbers are frequently hand-painted on the walls and worn-off. Another thing you need is the door code (kod, код) to unlock the entrance door which leads to the staircase to the apartment. Otherwise you find yourself outside in the cold and you can’t get in. And because you forgot your mobile phone you can’t ask them. Or worse, you don’t have a hell of an idea where you have to go to because you can’t crack the stantsiya-ulitsa-dom-kod-kvartira series....

A short “worst case” beginner’s guide for finding an address or apartment in St. Pete:

Let’s assume that you want to visit a girl in St. Pete and that you have the address containing of metro station – street name – building number – door code – and apartment number (stantsiya-ulitsa-dom-kod-kvartira) . This is the most complex case.

Now what should you do? The first thing you have to do is get a detailed street plan that covers the whole of Sint Petersburg. Street plans that only show you the city centre are useless if you travel to the outskirts. Then take the metro, travel to the metro station (stantsiya) and find the right exit to the city. Once outside you have to search for the street name (ulitsa) where the building is located. When you found the street, you have to locate the building (dom) with the right number. If building numbers are not visible (which is often the case), you have to ask a local or try to estimate it from adjacent building numbers. Sometimes building numbers can get quite confusing. I have seen buildings numbered “3-5” followed by “1/7” (pay attention to the use of the “-” and “/“). It actually meant that the first building contained the buildings numbers 3 to 5 and the second building contained the numbers 1 and 7. The confusing thing is that, in this case, building number 3 actually comes before building number 1 which you normally do not expect. Because of this I once walked into the wrong building, knocking at the door of the wrong apartment. Had to explain an old babushka what I was doing at her door.

When you have found the right building, it’s time to find the right entrance. Buildings can be very large (up to 200x200 meters) and have several entrances which are not interconnected. You cannot simply walk to another part of the building when you entered through the wrong entrance. You have to go outside and take another one. Take some time to walk around the whole building. Your entrance might also be at the back of the building, which sometimes seems to be another street but still is named after the first street. Normally, every entrance lists the apartment numbers that are behind it. But sometimes the apartment numbers were hand-painted on the wall years ago and worn off, or are not listed at all. If that’s the case, ask a local again or call the girls on your mobile phone and ask them which entrance to use or that they meet you outside.

When you have found the right entrance, you have to open it. If you have done your work right, you have asked the girls for the door code (kod) to open the entrance. If not, then it’s time to get your mobile phone again and ask them. The coded door lock is a small iron box with 10 keys numbered from 0 to 9. The code (mostly 3 digits) has to be pressed *simultaneously*. Many newbies including me try to enter the digits sequentially (like typing a phone number) and don’t get in. Modern-looking digital locks accept sequentially entered numbers. When you have opened the entrance, you will be in the staircase. Sometimes you see an elevator and sometimes you don’t but when you see one you probably won’t dare to use it.

The last step is to find the apartment (kvartira). Apartment numbers are small numbers, often nailed to the door frame at the very top. You easily overlook them. Finally you have to ring the bell (or knock on the door if the bell doesn’t work) and you’re inside. It’s easy. If you know how it works...

Part II will follow soon.

PtG.

[Speed Touch]

peter,

great report and very detailed for the beginner. i've been to spb twice and used omen.ru to get some numbers. i found that one in five will understand a litte english, and if you have a little bit of russian (found at the back of travel book you can work out the address). good to have a mobile phone though as the the apartment numbering can be confusing. i think i've reported on one good one last year.

most of the time i used to write the address clearly and hail a private car, and show him the address. i usually paid 100 roubles, maybe 150 if it was over half an hours journey. i think this is a safe option so long as you don't get into a private car with more than one person already in the car. the metro system is a lot quicker and, of course, cheaper.

speed touch

[CA Traveler]

HM2... I apologize for correcting some of your comments about visas, but there is so much misinformation floating around. So, take this for what it is worth...

As you said, business visas normally take about three weeks to have a 1 yr. ME visa invitation issued. Most Consulates require that you produce the original invitation when you apply for the actual visa. Also, some companies can expedite the issuance of the biz invitation, but it can be very costly... and it is not usually advertised because it all depends on who the issuing agency knows.

However, so there is no misunderstanding... Both Tourist AND Business visas can be registered at a hotel. If have a mulitiple entry visa and you live on a "permanent" basis in an apartment in Moscow/Spb you can have your landlord register you for 6 months even if you come and go so you don't have to mess with it everytime you enter and leave. There is a cost involved which is supposed to compensate the city for "services". Likewise, even if you stay short term in an apartment, there are people in both cities who will register your visa. Cost will range from $20 to $50.

If you have a ME 1 yr. visa, you are technically supposed to leave RU every 6 months and you will have to leave when your visa expires to get a new visa. Most Xpats enjoy their visa runs because it gives them a chance to get out of the house for a couple of weeks. There is technically a loophole that allows you to stay in Russia while your new visa is processed, but it is not worth discussing here because I don't have 1st hand knowledge that it really works.

Whether you have a tourist or a business visa, it is important to understand that registration is very important. You have 1 day to register your visa if you stay in a hotel and 3 days to register your visa if you stay in an apartment. Also, don't think that because you arrive at 2359 on Monday that you have until 2358 to get a hotel to register you... The militicia will count the first day no matter what time you arrive. PLUS, there is a new law recently passed by the DUMA that authorizes fines if you are not registered after 5 days to be 50,000 rubles. So you must register or you'll be sorry. Of course, you can also register your visa by jumping through the hoops at the local office of whichever RU ministry is currently responsible, but I really don't recommend that route unless you are traveling on an invitation from the Ministry of the Interior or Foreign Affairs because you will then be subject to the whims of the Russian, read former Soviet, apparatchiks and you'll get to have a glimpse of how life used to be in the CCCP where customer service was not even a word let alone a concept!

Also, remember that if you stay in an apartment, you will most likely have to use one of the outside "sources" to register your visa because you will NOT likely get the landlord to register you officially if you are only there for a couple of weeks or even a month.

One more thing, if you will be in the same city/hotel for a long visit, a hotel cannot register you for more than 30 days. If you have a biz visa of 90-365 days, don't let the hotel put register you for more than a month because some militicia will nail you when you think you are officially registered.

Also, one last caution... The laws affecting visas and registration change frequently. So if you read something posted 6 months ago, there is a good chance that some of the information is not current. There are several good websites that spell out exactly what is required. One suggestion but not an endorsement is www.visahouse.com, but the best sources are the Russian Consulates themselves. There are four in the USA and each has a specific responsibility for issuing visas for certain states. Plus, many of the foreign RU Consulates will issue visas for USA citizens and the costs and regulations vary even among the RU Consulates in the USA. However, be advised that some of the foreign RU Consulates will only issue visas for citizens of their host countries!

Another good source of info when you are in Russia is to talk to Xpats who have lived in Russia for a period of time. People who live with this year after year soon are forced to become experts on the ins and outs of the visa mess.

Good luck!

[Speed Touch]

guys (and girls for all you wonderful lesbians out there!),

the details of the erotic massage is on http://interweb.spb.ru/girls/

it's a body to body massage for 1 hour. the flats are ok (by russian standards) and some of them have mirror on the ceilings and walls. certainly an experience to be had.

looks like the price has gone to 1000 roubles for 1hour (was 700 2 yrs ago, inflation!) - great looking girls though. no sex but a hand job, maybe boob job at the end. 1500 for 2 girls.

you have to book in advance and they usually have one girl who can speak english. all 3 numbers relate to different flats and girls.

speed touch

[Peter The Great I]

if you don’t want to go through the trouble of finding a girls’ apartment, you can also ask them to come to your place. i managed to see a fair number of girls in my apartment. not all the girls i contacted wanted to come to me, especially when they lived far away or late at night. in that case, they proposed to come over to them (which i already described in part i). if an advertisement lists that they also do outcall visits (Выезд) they will mostly be willing to visit you. prices varied between 600 rubles per hour for a russian private worker to 2000 rubles per hour for an english speaking dyev who worked for a pimp.

directions

when the girl visits you, you have to give her the directions. this is the opposite way as explained in part i where the girl gave directions to you. the first thing she will ask is the closest metro station. then she will ask you for street name, building number and apartment number. one of the most difficult things will be the correct pronunciation of the street name. some street names (like nevski prospekt) are easy to pronounce, however if you live in one of those streets with a tongue breaking name you will have to practice first with a local, otherwise she won’t be able to understand where you live. mostly she will be in your apartment within an hour. if you live, like i did, in an apartment behind steel doors and two code locks, ask the girl that she phones you when she has arrived at the building. you can simply walk outside and pick her up. or leave her there when you don’t like her.

the “come to my place” girls

sonya was an 18-year-old beauty who told she was going to marry soon with a man she did not love. as with many young (and not so experienced) girls, her performance was mediocre though her shaven pussy, silky skin and young soft c size tits were very nice. as an exception to the rule, she looked better (younger) than on the photos. 2 shots. price: 2500 rubles / 2 hours.

elena was a 27-year-old teacher from siberia. looks were only 6-7 however she worked hard and i got good value for money. standard sex, but still 4 shots in 3 hours. price: 4500 rubles including taxi at 03:00.

irena was a 26-year-old private worker. she did not speak one single word english. her price was $40 for 2 hours and $100 for the whole night. i saw her for 2 hours. it was dead cold that day, so when she arrived i had to peel off 6 layers of clothing and fabrics before i got to her naked skin. awesome sex, 2 shots / 1200 rubles / 2 hours. she also tried to steal my mobile phone (including the charger, smart girl!). just before she left i asked her to hand it over to me and that she would not be hurt. she just gave it back. then i asked her to turn her back to me and bend over (which made her a little nervous). i pulled down her pants and gave her a final anal fuck in front of the door she will remember for a long time. i gave her 500 rubles extra when she left. just for fun i tried her number again two days later and got a grumpy russian man on the phone.

simona was a 22-year-old (i estimated her real age 27) curvaceous economy student who spoke good english and worked for a pimp. cbj, anal, all positions, massage, everything included. performance was only so-so and too professional. she looked like she was having a postnatal depression, so i fucked her hard. price: 4000 rubles / 2 hours. 2 shots.

yana was a 24 year old crazy ukrainian, and there is a saying: when a ukrainian shows up, even a jew is screwed. she was really crazy and wanted to fuck without condom which i refused. she had firm breasts and a body of an aerobics teacher. she was exceptionally tall (1.85 m). her breath was a disaster however. she was an anal athlete and wanted me to fuck her anally. she screamed so loud it made me afraid my angry neighbours would bang at my door. fortunately it was during day time and i think my neighbours were at work. 2 shots/3000 rubles/2 hours.

liza was a little older (about 38), and on the photo in the magazine she looked so sad that i just had to ask her to come over to find out why. she was slim and well conserved for her age. it turned out that her husband had dumped her for a younger girl recently, leaving her without any source of income. currently she was involved in a lawsuit for alimony. she was very experienced and started with a nice erotic massage. then she started a bj which took almost half an hour, gently teasing me between to come and not to come. i finished in doggy position. after that we kept talking about why russian women are dumped so often by their husbands. 1 shot/2000 rubles/2 hours.

money transfer

money transfer varied with every girl. some wanted to have everything handed over to the driver beforehand (who was actually their pimp), others asked for the money afterwards. if she wants to give the money to the driver, escort her to the car to avoid that she drives away with the money. girls who work for a pimp generally charge about 500-1000 rubles extra because the pimp has to bribe the militia for some reason. and don't put your money on the table in russia. it’s russian superstition!

choosing a girl

take a lot of time to choose your girl. i looked at literally hundreds of photos and descriptions before i chose a few. about 1% of the girls satisfied my needs but spending all those hours in choosing them was already half the fun. i called two of the omen.ru girls before i flew to st. petersburg so i got laid already a few hours after arrival.

condoms etc.

except for yana, all girls had their own condoms. i did not see any of the infamous russian condoms anymore. it might be handy to take a few with you from your own country however, just for the case.

part iii comes soon!

ptg.

[Peter The Great I]

25+ Freebies

I did some attempts to get a freebie in the 25-35 range. I contacted four women over the Internet using ICQ and email. All of them had a daytime job, children, and sometimes even a jealous husband. All of this made it complex to arrange daytime meetings. Only evening hours or weekends were possible. Sometimes I tried to set up a meeting but they did not show up (e.g. due to problems to find a nanny or their husband suspected something). On another occasion they unexpectedly called me that they wanted to see me on short notice but I couldn’t because I was busy. Furthermore none of them could come to my place after the first or second meeting. For a woman whose primary intention is not having sex with you, you need to invest in time, attention and some small presents. Unfortunately I had a lack of time (1 week) and I was busy arranging p4p with other girls. For this short 1 week period, trying to have sex with these women turned out to be a waste of time. Maybe I just had bad luck and found the wrong girls. However at minus 15 degrees it was not very inviting to have a romantic walk outside. If you are going to stay for two weeks or longer, or if you concentrate upon finding freebies (e.g. in a bars/clubs) it will most certainly work out. You might get less sex than with p4p however because none of these girls can/want to provide sex on a daily basis, let be twice a day for an extended period.

Clubs

I went to the Tribunal, be it with female company. After some negotiation with security at the entrance so that we could leave the club without paying (working girls seem to pay money to the security to leave with a man) we went inside. It was about 23:00. You can spot the working girls miles ahead, just as the expats doing their best to look like "western men". It looked a little bleak/pathetic to me at that time. The quality of the working girls was far below my expectations and some of them looked as if they have been working here for ages. However at midnight they started a show (which wasn't even that bad) and at 01:00 the club started to fill. At 02:00 there was a more diverse choice and even some younger student like girls were coming in. Haven't asked for prices but I think they will charge you something around $200 for a night. It was a quiet evening, so the girls flocked together chatting. I picked up some scraps of their conversation. I think they called us "wallets". We left at 03:00. Don’t take a taxi or private car close to the Tribunal when you leave. They are overpriced. Instead of that walk one or two streets further.

London Club/Pub is a Russian disco. I went there only to have a quick look. Seems quite laid back and there were some shows going on where the (mostly female) audience participated in. Female to male ratio was about 4:1 that night. Thursday is Ladies night and men are only allowed to get in after midnight.

La Plage looks like a beach. Any girl coming in bikini gets free entry, though in December this was a little difficult. From the second floor you have a good view on the boobs on the dance floor. Maybe not as good for finding freebies but still worth a visit for all the eye candy.

Safety on the streets

One of the first warnings I heard in St. Pete was that I shouldn’t walk alone on the streets after midnight, and most certainly not when I was drunk. But isn’t this true for most big cities in the world? Nevsky Prospect itself is safe after midnight but some far away side streets can get a bit scary. Ask locals where not to go. I didn’t have any trouble at all though I frequently walked alone to my apartment after midnight. I followed some basic rules however. For example, when I walked to my apartment there were two ways of reaching it: one dark and empty but short road and another well lit, longer and always people walking there. Guess which one I chose?

I know the stories of people (mostly from Asia) who were attacked by hooligans. Unfortunately when your skin colour is other than white, you might draw unwanted attention in Russia. When you look like someone from the southern states, it’s better to stay low profile. Due to what happened over the past years, Russians get very nervous when they see people which appear to come from Chechnya, Kazakhstan etc. However compared to the size of St. Pete with 4 million inhabitants, your chances running into trouble are very low as long as you follow the Four Golden Rules: 1) dress like a Russian, 2) act like a Russian (but don’t drink too much), 3) don’t talk to people you don’t know and 4) follow your senses and stay away from places where you should not be.

In general I think that St. Pete is equally safe as most average European and North-American big cities. There are always some suburbs where you must not go to. But a little fear is part of the overall Russian experience. It keeps your senses sharp and you enjoy yourself more intense when you finally relax in the arms of a Russian beauty.

Apart from that, Russian drivers are your biggest hazard. They drive like madmen and pedestrians are – from their point of view – annoying obstacles. The Nevsky is often more like a race track. Be careful when you cross the streets. The traffic over here isn’t comparable to anything in Europe, the USA or Down under. Think of that when you try to cross the Nevsky and a Hummer is approaching you at 80+ km/h, tooting loudly. The probability that you are hit by a car is higher than being harassed by some lunatic.

Part IV is yet to come.

PtG.

[Peter The Great I]

Having fucked a number of Russian girls I have the feeling that “Russian sex” is still a little mechanical. I assume this is a leftover from the good ol’ Soviet times when sex officially did not exist. Sometimes I thought I was fucking an inflatable doll instead of a girl of flesh and blood.

Nearly all of the girls wanted to turn off the lights while having sex. This might be a strategy, shyness, or both. You might want to investigate her pussy and ass with a little light for any visible signs of STDs before entering them.

If you pay a girl, don’t put the money on the table but hand it over. Putting money on the table is considered as a bad omen in Russia. Russians are very superstitious.

When you visit a girl in her apartment it has two big advantages: 1) There will be no hassle with the militsia at all because you travel alone. You will be just one of the millions of anonymous commuters who use public transport every day. 2) You don’t need an apartment or a girl friendly hotel.

Most of the photos I saw at omen.ru and in the magazines are correct, so you can see (more or less) what you get. Some girls look better in reality, some worse. Pay attention to their height/weight ratio because voluptuous girls only show their best parts (eyes, face, shoulders, breasts etc.). Photos that look too good to be true are generally too good to be true. I saw one or two photos of Moscow girls in the St. Pete magazines, so some “pollution” is certainly present. Some girls are heavily photoshopped.

In the rare case that something happens to you and you have to report to the militsia, ask for special assistance for foreigners. You cannot reach this assistance directly, but the ordinary militsia should call this number: 278 30 14. When available, this special assistance also provides an English speaking translator.

Do not waste your time with talking with the dyevs when you have booked p4p for a limited amount of time like 1-3 hours. You will find yourself talking to her half of your paid time, though it can be interesting sometimes...

I preferred 2 girls for 2-3 hours instead of one for the whole night because the sex vocabulary of most girls will be exhausted after a few hours anyway. After that, it is only repetition. When you take two different girls for 2-3 hours per girl, price & duration will be about the same but the fun will be double.

Don't ask the girls "may I do this or that with you". They will always say no because it is not common for a man to ask for permission. Just do it and they will say you anyway when they don't like it. Some girls persisted not to have anal when I asked them though they explicitly listed it in their advertisement. The best way to avoid this is to agree it by phone before you visit them.

Some girls want you to take a shower before having sex. Take any valuables with you when you cannot lock them away. Don’t leave them in your coat. Girls like Irena will check your pockets while you are showering. Check your belongings before you leave the girl or the girl leaves you. It doesn’t happen often, but it saves you a lot of wasted time when you can avoid that they steal your phone, credit card or passport.

From some girls I heard stories of drunken foreigners that entered the apartments escorted by a male Russian translator/friend. They hate those men and it ruins pleasure in their work.

It will be difficult to get a girl into your apartment after 21:00. Eventually you will succeed but you might have to call up to 10 girls or more to find one (plus 500 rubles extra for a taxi).

Buy a Russian prepaid GSM SIM card as soon as possible or you’ll be surprised what the Russians will charge you for their network roaming services. There are dozens of phone shops along Nevski Prospect and its side streets. If you are lucky, you meet an English speaking sales person. Be aware that when you buy a Russian prepaid SIM card, you need to show your passport, visa and registration.

Get at least one Russian girlfriend, not necessarily for sex. She will show you places and (underground) clubs you never find on your own. You can use this information on your next visits, or even during your current visit.

Given that a monthly wage for a teacher in St. Pete is about 3000 rubles, I think that 2500 rubles for just two hours of sex work is a lot of money in Russia. It would be comparable to a working girl in the USA asking for $ 1,000 per hour. There must be cheaper alternatives inside or outside St. Pete but I just haven’t found them yet. But then again, you might get what you pay for...

In general I paid about 1250 rubles per hours for the girls. When I add all the overhead costs (flight, hotels, apartments, transfers, visa etc.) and smear them out over all the girls, their price would be close to 2500 rubles per hour.

So, after 19 shots with 11 different girls in 7 days I went home. After the 10th girl, it felt a little bit like a rehearsal, though still exciting.

The end (for this moment).

PtG.

[Across69]

Here is an updated list of apartments from Omen.ru. All phone numbers are in the (812) area code and the prices listed are per hour. The first name listed for each apartment will do anal but don't be suprised if she plays ignorant. If you go to any of these apartments please let us know. Also, I can't find anything about my favorite apartment at 53 Nevsky ((812)972-2793), directly across from Cafe Magrib.

Leka,Masha,Anya,Sveta,Natasha 922-9778 $50
Angelina,Sveta,Tatyana,Kristina 948-5585 $70
Alisa, Camilla, Eva, Lana, Jasmin 974-4403 $65
Michelle, Ilona,Alisa,Iana, Tanya 115-9252 $75
Valeria, Arina, Tanya, Nastya, Yana 973-5978 $55
Alina,Julia,Veka,Svetlana, Alla, Diana 920-6750 $50
Zlata,Dasha, Svetlana, Lera 952-5449 $55
Erika,Tina,Luda,Frida,Kamilla 974-6898 $50
Olga, Taya,Sima,Vika,Elena,Lolina 528-1848 $50

[Guy #2]

Thanks for the price update!

[Russia Guy]

After and absence of nearly a year I am headed back to St Pete for a week for the 4th of July. I am going to be seeing my ex from a two year relationship when I was living in SPB, but only for a couple of days. Anyone in town want to hang out anytime that week. Is Leo still "managing" Magrib? Are there still good pickings professionally there? Let me know via reply to this post or via PM and I am good for buying a round and hunting for dyevs.

[Peter The Great I]

Browsing through Omen.ru recently I found that some of the girls I met last year are still (or again) active.

For the following girls I can personally guarantee because they were fucked and approved by Peter the Great.

For all of the girls hold: if you don’t speak Russian, you won’t be able to communicate with them, let be visit them (see my earlier posts). They might have learned to speak a few words of English during the last half year however.

Here’s the Uzbek girl I told about. She looks great on the photos and fucks even better once warmed up.

http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=photo&f_id=521578&num=3
http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=photo&f_id=521578&num=2

And her bio is here:
http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=513131

This one looks a little weird on the photo, but in reality she looks better. Great tits.
http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=photo&f_id=513131&num=1

And this is her bio.
http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=513131

Have fun!

[Russia Guy]

Here’s the Uzbek girl I told about. She looks great on the photos and fucks even better once warmed up.

http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=photo&f_id=521578&num=3
http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=photo&f_id=521578&num=2

And her bio is here:
http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=513131
Is it true that she does anal? That is suprising. Are prices accurate from omen.ru, $60 an hour $270 per night? Thanks for the info.

[Peter The Great I]

Rus Guy,

I think she does, but you have to agree when you call her. When I arrived and asked without prior agreement, she said she didn't.

Prices on Omen.ru are correct. Sometimes they ask more when hear you're from the west, but not excessively.

PtG.

[Andy S]

Anal prices usually higher than mentioned on omen.ru. So you have to call and to agree everithing first.

[Russia Guy]

Still working on planning my triumphant return to the motherland and I was wondering if anyone has any info on Tutsy Bar, the strip club / brothel on the river across from Lt Schmidt bridge? I have had some good experiences with girls at the boat, but it is hit and miss as to who is working just dancing and who will "go uptairs." Still looking for anyone in town July 3-9 that might want to hook up for a beer and some hunting.

[Jwheels]

Anyone in SPB from 26th of July to 2nd of August?

[Andy S]

Still working on planning my triumphant return to the motherland and I was wondering if anyone has any info on Tutsy Bar, the strip club / brothel on the river across from Lt Schmidt bridge? I have had some good experiences with girls at the boat, but it is hit and miss as to who is working just dancing and who will "go uptairs." Still looking for anyone in town July 3-9 that might want to hook up for a beer and some hunting.
Sure, it still working, but prices there are crazy comparing with standard girl price..

[Andy S]

Anyone in SPB from 26th of July to 2nd of August?
Me, since I live here :)

[Russia Guy]

One more question in prep for my trip. Are most girls still quoting prices in Euros or are dollar rates back in fashion? Thanks for the info. Andy, do you want to get a beer when I am in town?

[MarcoMan]

Next week I will be in town for a few days, arriving the 21th. PM if you would like to go mongering together.

[Dant75]

Someone has visited the salons from www.photomodeli.ru ? They also have a magazine : 1001 красавица.

8 salons : Kamennoostrovskiy 24 / Marata 22 / Nevskiy 63 / Nevskiy 95 / Nevskiy 162 / Gorokhovaya 46 / Zhukovskogo 21 / Bolshoy 104. Reasonnable prices : 2 hours = 2000-3500 RBL / 58-102 euros. Some hot looking dyevs. Are the photos real ? Do they speak english ?

Here I found only a review about Kamennoostrovskiy salon on 09-22-04 (positive review). Someone can confirm or try the other salons before I check myself ? :)

What are the best bars / nights clubs where you can pick up pros / semi-pros? Magrib? Tribunal?

[Member #4732]

I may be making my first trip to Russia. It will be for business, but I would like to find some good mongering if possible. I have been to Finland and met some nice Russian girls in Helsinki's Mikado cub. I have read about 5 pages in this forum and it seems the p4p options are not too good for non-russian speakers in SPG. I am familiar with the omen.ru girls but as most have said the language is an issue. Then I'm reading that the hotels are not girl friendly. And the freelancers are a risk because of the high drug and disease rate. I'm getting a bit depressed.

So I'm thinking, well what about the spas? Then I read about the spa Aelita and read that its just a rub and tug?

Short question, are there full service spas and are they a good option? I am pretty choosy about looks and pretty spoiled, just having visited Brasil where the girls are gorgeous and friendly.

Should I just keep reading further and further back to find information about spas or is that just a rub and tug option?

[Barmer67]

Dant75,

I was with a friend this May in St. Peter for few days, and we picked-up a taxi driver, who recomended this salon-chain as the best price/performance in town. He took us thru some of those salons and we picked girls twice from there (total of 4 girls).
In general I can say the girls are very similar to the photos and the overall terms and service are good.
I would advise to call first each salon to see which girls are actually on duty and then also visit there and pick the girls on-site.
Most of them don't speak English, but some do a little.

Hope that helps,
Barmer.

[Doctor_Skank]

Barmer67,

Would be great if you could provide price info for reference, for example in house (in the salon) vs. take home/outcall.

A taxi driver in front of Magrib took me to a salon and I paid approx $100 in rubles for a couple of hours with a take home babe (middle of the night, no idea which one or where)... She was top at least body-wise, absolutely top. Face unremarkable but not bad. In house was something like $50/hour, about half-price.

Any info you could provide would be great, thanks!

Rovnak:
As for Aelita, I was there about a year ago and after looking at the catalog of girls, about 8 of them, I specifically asked the receptionist if sex was possible and she said no, upon which I asked again and after receiving a polite yet very clear "no" I decided to go somewhere else. Not sure what negotiation behind closed doors or a more tactful approach might yield, but I wasnt willing to take that chance. If anyone else experienced otherwise, we'd all be interested to know as Aelita is one of the more prominent spas on Nevsky. However many saunas, salons and spas per se do offer sex.

[Guido88]

Doc,

I have used salons from this site many times with overall good results.

http://amurspb.ru/rus/intim/index.php?action=org

Prices run $47-53 per hour depending on the exchange rate, usually very good quality. Home delivery is available. It's more difficult for me, with your Russian skills a snap.

There is a salon on the Old Nevsky, I think the address was 168 that had over 20 girls at two in the morning, 5 0r 6 were stunners. We found it thru a cabbie outside of Marstall's one night.

Good hunting

Portnoy

[Doctor_Skank]

Portnoy,

Thanks for the info and link.

The cabbies in St.Pete seem to be a pretty decent choice for a late night selection tour guide. It isnt the cheapest option... the taxi itself will probably cost $15-20 and the girl (take home) about $100, but selection can be good... and $100-150 is definitely an ok price if the girl is nice... especially if striking out at Marstalls with its paltry selection or Magrib, where selection varies from fan-fucking-tastic to non-existent... and minimum price is $100 anyway.

In any case, your 3-4am take home options are pretty limited in St.Pete if you strike out at the well-known pick up joints and dont want a hotel girl.

[Diceman]

When arriving get the saint petersburg times its an english newspaper, in the back check out the personal ads cant remember the names but there are 2 or 3 escort services, call them and they send a driver to you with a catalogue with all the girls in and there stats etc, they normally ask for 100$ for the hour but you can always chip them down, a lot of the girls are students supplementing there studies etc, some are stunners, and after you finish the session they will often go with you for a meal and a night out followed by a free shag later, then of course you get her private mobile number and call her again, thus cutting out the agent makes it cheaper for you and the girl also gets a bit more, there is also a paper called the "neva news" there are or used to be a lot of freelance girls in there again its written in english and its a good source, you can meet some nice girls who are not hardened from working in clubs or brothels who are on the clock , find the freelance ones if poss.

Hope this helps.

[Russia Guy]

Barmer67,
Rovnak:
As for Aelita, I was there about a year ago and after looking at the catalog of girls, about 8 of them, I specifically asked the receptionist if sex was possible and she said no, upon which I asked again and after receiving a polite yet very clear "no" I decided to go somewhere else. Not sure what negotiation behind closed doors or a more tactful approach might yield, but I wasnt willing to take that chance. If anyone else experienced otherwise, we'd all be interested to know as Aelita is one of the more prominent spas on Nevsky. However many saunas, salons and spas per se do offer sex.I visited Aleita in 2003 with a friend of mine, a doctor, that came to visit. He is 15 years my senior (I was 30) and our experiences varied considerably. He said that he paid for and received a good massage with a hand job completion. I had a not so great massage but she finished me off with a passibly decent CBJ. I think that the official line is no sex, but I think that for extra cash I might have been able to get FS. He was paying and I would rather spend my $$ on other options so I guess that I will never know. As with many places YMMV depending on you, the girl and the amount of $$.

I am still looking for anyone in town that would like to get a drink and pick up dyevs July 3-9. Let me know. Hope the above helps.

[Jimbehr2000]

Is this hotel girl friendly or do they have their own hotel girls? People here don't like hotel girls. Is it the price that puts people off or do the hotel girls only serve their own hotels?

[Dant75]

Hi guys, thanks for the informations on salons.

I will visit St Petersburg in late august with a buddy. Any nice and honest fellow monger welcome. You can read my report in Kiev (06-05-05) if you want to know how I behave. Is there a girls shortage in summer ? On late august (08-22 for example), do they already come back from holidays ?

No security issue when you visit an salon from http://www.photomodeli.ru or http://amurspb.ru?
What about the rating (ie red hearts) on http://amurspb.ru/rus/intim/index.php?action=girls&menu=top20 and http://prolove.spb.ru ? Are they reviewed by customers and can you trust it ?

What are the best bar / night club to pick up pros / semi-pros ? Magrib, Marstall, Tribunal? Who are the most honest and reliable appartment renters?

Thanks

[Russia Guy]

Has anyone used this site? It is a Finnish site that one of my Finn friends swears by for both Tallinn and SPB. About 50% of the ads look to be "realnia photographia" and supposedly all the girls speak English (I almost believe that one). Be back in Petersburg in a week. Keep the city warm for me.

[Member #4732]

Diceman, thanks for the tip. Do you have any recall of the names of these agencies which you recommend? I have seldom used agencies unless they are reputable, and I would imagine that in SP there are many non-reputable agencies. I don't want one of these situations that I have read about here, where some mafia thug accompanies the girl to your room and demands the money.

[Member #2680]

Hi guys,

I am visiting Moscow and SP IN LATE July, anyone knows about the "dunes" nude beach or "Dyuny" in Russian language?

[Guido88]

Dante 75,

Apartments try these:

dijayru@yandex.ru -Owned by Ian, has apartments around the embankment with good pricing and also a small hotel. I do not have the web site handy.

http://www.nevsky88.com/ Very nice and more expensive with a good location.

You have the usual suspects for bars with working girls. The Tribnal in my experience was not that great. The Red Lion next door on Tuesday's is awesome for ladies night. Try the brewery Tinkoff for dinner and you will see pairs of girls that may be available for take home. Just talk and ask.

On amur.spb.ru have used Fantasy and sister salon Massage+ both good. The Domino set of salons a different color depending on location. Had great qualitiy from these for home delivery. Biggest challenge was finding a girl who spoke english. Just have to keep calling then describe exactly what you are looking for.

Omen.ru is not bad either, same language challenges. I got a blonde pair of cousins 20 & 21 year old with lesbian from here. Fun

Happy hunting

Portnoy

[Member #4732]

Guys, what is the protocol in salons?

I have been to all sorts of salon, massage parlor and clinicas elsewehre. Every country has different protocols. Sometimes the menu lists every type of sex possible for a fixed price that you pay at the desk. Some places pretend to be ordinary non-sexual massage parlors and you have to negotiate with whispers in the room with the girl. Those are the two extremes. What is the situation in St. P?


Dant7 wrote:
Reasonnable prices : 2 hours = 2000-3500 RBL / 58-102 euros.
What exactly does that mean? Who do you pay and when do you pay them?

Also, how do you "pick" a girl? Do they let you look at a book? Do they introduce the available girls one by one?

Also, how do you split your time? Are you supposed to sauna or anything first, or do you have the choice of just showering and getting right to sex? Do the girls make pretenses to massage or just get to the real action?

I can find all of these answers and much more on the Brazilian forum but this forum doesn't seem to have much nuts and bolts information. Or else I am not looking in the right place.

If this information is posted already, I apologize, but please direct me where to find it.

[Member #4732]

ok, i've read from page 28 to page 14, still haven't found answer to my question below. Will keep reading.

But I have learned that perhaps I was wrong to say "Salon". Maybe I should have said "Sauna".

Is Salon just an apartment with p4p while Sauna is the russian version of massage parlor, clinica?

[CA Traveler]

R... since you're obviously hot for the answer to your question and it's not Spb specific, here you go...

Salon and apartment are used interchangably for a small brothel. Russia doesn't have the large brothels that you see in some countries, but rather it has many apartments where 2-6 girls work. Typically, you will find these places on the internet. They advertise on many sites and most times, if you can't read Russki, you may think you are calling an independent girl and you are actually calling an apartment/salon who happen to have 2-12 girls in their stable who will often times work in the apt for incalls or will sometimes do outcalls.

The sauna/banya is a place in Russia where you may or may not be allowed to take a girl and they may or may not supply girls for you. Typically you can get a massage, but the masseuse may look like her day job is welding on a pipeline... with apolgies to the welder's union!

There are Russian banyas and Finnish banyas... the Russians take their banya/sauna experience very serious and unless you have someone who knows the scoop at a particular banya, you may be dissapointed because the experience is not one of mongering, but rather one of sweat and pain, among other things.

I hope this summarizes the situation for you... Maybe someone who is really into the banya/sauna scene can give you more info if you want it.

[Member #4732]

Thanks CA,

Yeah, I was just looking for daytime options. After reading the entire board, I guess I know what to expect now. Looks like spas are just a massage and HJ option.

Sounds like Magrib is the consensus place to go for non-Russian speaking mongers, after midnight.

I did see two mentions of a mysterious place called Absinthe, one suggested it was a private club, so I guess that makes it off limits to visitors.

I'm sure I will find out more once on the ground. Thanks for the help.

[Octatron]

Hey, Fellow Mongers

I’m back in STP for a season.

I never like going to the salons/saunas/apartments/escorts. I just prefer the disco environment. Although you can get better value for the buck there for the short term pleasure. I never waste my time with Hotel girls either.

I will try not to repeat to much what is already posted.

I usually start the night off and maybe end the night at Tribunal. Although it’s not as good as it was in the old days, it’s still a fun bar to go to. Red Lion next door is ok too. From my experiences less English speaking girls can be had there as freebies, more than Tribunal. But Tribunal is an institution.

I do like to go to Plaza Disco, but I will usually leave before the bridges go up, so I’m not stuck on the wrong side of the river. On the wrong side of the river, there is Club Ostrov too, very expensive cover, and drinks, but good place for freebies, as well as P4P. But for going for freebies I rank Plaza disco as the best in STP. You have to try it out once on a Friday, or Saturday.

Also for freebies, you can try luckylovers.net. Really easy to score off this website.

Marstalls
Never go there anymore, the girls there are always the same, again it was better in the old days.

Magribs
Pound for pound my favorite place to go, freebie action, along with some hot P4P action. The pros will start off always at $200.00, but you can laugh in their face, and you can get them down a lot lower. Especially towards the end of the night.

Metro
In the old days a good place to go, but I do not think much of it now. Although last time I went there was over a year ago. The girls are younger, and hardly ever speak English, but it’s a place to try.

Rossi
I will try it out this weekend. Most regular girls I talk to seem all to say it’s their favorite, so wanted to check it out.

For all the STP veterans, anybody remember a disco called the Candyman? Was wondering if it was still around or it’s got another name now? That place use to be great.

Happy Hunting!

[Guido88]

Rovnak

I have done both in St Petes. Look for the rendezvous or Pahaeby mags at the newsstands for salons or call one of the many salons in http://amurspb.ru/

For the salons it’s a good idea to call and see how many girls are working and let them know you are coming. Expect a fair amount of challenge finding the salon on your own. A cabbie is probably a good idea. Frequently there may only be 2-3 maybe more in the evening. I have seen as few as 2 and as many a 20. When you arrive they will bring in the girls and you choose which you want and pay for the time you want. No pretense here, you are there for sex.

Anything special you want just ask. I remember being with a friend around 2 in the morning at a salon with 20 girls and he immediately asks who does anal. Several blushed and giggled, a couple looked pissed and four raised their hands. Good girls.

A better option is to use the net for home delivery provided you are not in a hotel. Like ordering a pizza with no hassle or your being lost.

Tried the sauna option. As Ca Trav mention there are two types. Many saunas have no girl’s period; they are there for the serious business of sauna only. Ask when you call to check it out. You need to reserve for all types of sauna, as they are busy. The sauna ads you see that appear sexual will be. They will call a few girls and you pick. The quality I saw with the sauna girls was not great. I am sure it will vary from one to another.

You can also take a salon girl to a sauna and have them set everything up. You would need to do this with a little advance notice. Then you can get the quality you desire.

I found that for me the girls did not work well with the sauna concept. They don’t want to get sweaty so they spend little or no time in the sauna. You have to worry about your valuables so you should always be near the girls. One interferes with the other. I prefer to go to a legitimate sauna and enjoy with no girls. Personal choice.

No matter what you will have a great time trying the various options St Petes offer.

Have fun

Portnoy

[Guido88]

Octatron,

Rossi's rocks most nights with good entertainment. Great female to male ratio” with a lot of good looking women. Try Thursday night for ladies night. The ratio is almost obscene 10+ to 1.

Have fun,

Portnoy

[Member #4732]

Ok, I know that the first reply is going to be, "skip the escorts and just go to Magrib". That is probably what I will do.

Still, I enjoy looking at the escort sites to just get a sense of the possible talent.

Most of the SPb escort pix are not to my liking anyway. But I LOVE this pic. What is the probability that this is a real pic of the escort or just a bait and switch deal.

http://www.sexbombzzz.ru/cgi-bin/catalog_frame.cgi?id=i252&foto=i252-1.jpg&table=catalog

[Guy #2]

Thank you Octatron. Very nice report. :)

[Guy #2]

Jesus! There are 50,000 Russian women registered with Lucky Lovers.net. Nice find. Sometimes the net is like a club. You have to find the website or club that these people are all attracted to for whatver god knows reason. Like all the Chinese chicks gravitating to Friends Finders.

[Russia Guy]

Thanks CA,

Yeah, I was just looking for daytime options. After reading the entire board, I guess I know what to expect now. Looks like spas are just a massage and HJ option.

Sounds like Magrib is the consensus place to go for non-Russian speaking mongers, after midnight.

I did see two mentions of a mysterious place called Absinthe, one suggested it was a private club, so I guess that makes it off limits to visitors.

I'm sure I will find out more once on the ground. Thanks for the help.Absenthe was a really interesting private "membership only" club that was all the rage 2 years ago. I was (and I guess still am) a member. It was kind of a Blade intro through a back alley into a meat locker basement where they actually lock you in the club as you enter (no fire marshall problems in Russia). The place used to be guido central but is dead now. Jakata picked up where Absenthe left off and then died, Jet Set moved in next and is on its last leg. Now the hot spot seems to be Dacha. I don't know why as it is about 3 square meters total with people spilling out into the street. Hot women that are all Prada clad (or at least the fake version). No P4p at any of these places unless your name is Vladimir any you have a penthouse and drive a hummer. Magrib is hands down the most friendly place and Leo the manager is a real pro. If you are having problems picking out the pros ask for Leo and have him point out the working girls. Have fun. I am back in SPB in 4 days!!!

[Guy #2]

luckylovers.net--don't bother spending money on this site. I looked at all 2000 paqges. The first 5 pages you will find 4 hot women. The rest are all dogs.

[Jimbehr2000]

Russia Guy thanks for the advice about Leo the manager. I was there last nite about 1AM and I had trouble picking out the working girls from the regulars. I saw so many girls with their boyfriends I thought I was in the wrong place. One or two girls gave me "the look" but I wasn't interested in them. I may follow your advice since it seems the girls at Magrib aren't as open about soliciting. I am relatively certain that last night the percentage of pros and semi-pros was extremely low.

[Member #4732]

ok, I'm going to learn Russian just so I can call this girl. What do you think, real or not real?

Veronika

http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=545402

She is definitely several notches above the rest of the omen listings, and she is charging a lot. 3000 hr and 15000 night. How outrageous is that? But if she really looks like those pix I'd be interested in an hour. Would you guys reprimand me for that?

[Russia Guy]

Well all, I am sitting in Terminal 3 of JFK airport on my way to SPB as I type. If anyone wants to hit Magrib mid week or check out the scene anywhere else I only have a few nights pre-engaged. Drop me a PM or post if anyone wants to team up. I hit the ground in 12 hours.

Cheers

[Dant75]

ok, I'm going to learn Russian just so I can call this girl. What do you think, real or not real?

Veronika

http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=545402

She is definitely several notches above the rest of the omen listings, and she is charging a lot. 3000 hr and 15000 night. How outrageous is that? But if she really looks like those pix I'd be interested in an hour. Would you guys reprimand me for that?Fake of course. This is hungarian pornstar Vera :
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/vera.html
Omen = hit and miss ?

[Member #4732]

Maybe this site is common knowledge here, but I don't recall seeing it discussed.

It seems a lot more user friendly than omen. The detail pages are particularly good as they show how many other postings use the same telephone number, there are comments from readers, and there is a location map showing where the girl is relative to Spb.

http://www.rusdosug.com/search.php?city=%D1%E0%ED%EA%F2-%CF%E5%F2%E5%F0%E1%F3%F0%E3&x=10&y=6

[Member #4732]

And this site: Best Ladies has a Languages category so you can see which ones speak English ( Английский )

http://www.bestladies.ru/forms/search.php?action=search&city=1&type=0&age_low=1&age_high=11111&height_low=1&height_high=111111&weight_low=1&weight_high=111111&breast_size=0&price_low=1&price_high=11111

17 of the 36 list English.

[Jimbehr2000]

This is my first trip to STP and Tribunal doesn't get a lot of positive reviews here. But the place rocked last night. A dark haired dyev named Maya latched on to me but I decided to hold out for a blonde. I finally hooked up with a good looking blonde, Inna. She looked a little hardened but did everything she could to ensure I had a pleasant experience and she was sweet as hell. And I did have a pleasant experience.

Tonite I plan to see Marstall's and go back to Magrib where I didn't have success a few nights ago. I didn't seem to see any p4p girls at Magrib. They were far more open at Tribunal. All the girls at Tribunal not dancing seemed available. I don't know about the Tribunal dancers.

Will post some pics soon. Russia Guy, would love to hook up at Magrib but I'm going to Helsinki tomorrow.

[Jimbehr2000]

I might add the cost to get into Tribunal this weekend was 200 roubles. If two tourists enter together (I was alone) admission is free. I read here you should bring a copy of your passport to save the entrance fee but I did not confirm that. Inna started negotiations at $200US but quickly lowered to $150. That's what I paid and I didn't try to get her to lower her price since I was "ready" to go.

[Guido88]

Jimbehr2000,

My experience at the Magrib is that majority of the girls are working. You can discount groups of girls with guys, but a very high percentage of the rest are either semi or pro. They are not quite as blatant as Marstall’s or the Tribnal. Talk with them, if money is an issue it will come up quickly. If not perhaps you will score a freebie.

There is always a fair chance of picking a freebie out of Marstal’s or the Magrib. Another good option for freebies is Mollie’s Irish Pub, frequently loaded with potential freebies, not a working girl in sight. Evenings are best Thurs. thru Sat, Mollies is located down 1.5 blocks the street that corners the MacDonald’s on the Nevsky close to the Magrib. I heard they have opened a second location as well.

Happy hunting,

Portnoy

[Guy #2]

Nothing is common knowledge. Thanks for the info. This is news to me.


Maybe this site is common knowledge here, but I don't recall seeing it discussed.

It seems a lot more user friendly than omen. The detail pages are particularly good as they show how many other postings use the same telephone number, there are comments from readers, and there is a location map showing where the girl is relative to Spb.

http://www.rusdosug.com/search.php?city=%D1%E0%ED%EA%F2-%CF%E5%F2%E5%F0%E1%F3%F0%E3&x=10&y=6

[Guy #2]

This info helps because the prices are low but my system crashes evey time i click on some of these links. Are any of these links or sites a virus or trojan? Thanks.


And this site: Best Ladies has a Languages category so you can see which ones speak English ( Английский )

http://www.bestladies.ru/forms/search.php?action=search&city=1&type=0&age_low=1&age_high=11111&height_low=1&height_high=111111&weight_low=1&weight_high=111111&breast_size=0&price_low=1&price_high=11111

17 of the 36 list English.

[Member #4732]

I believe it was ACross who posted several lists of brothels from omen.ru.

Here is one that was not on his list that has several attractive girls at reasonable rates 1700/hr.

http://an.aport.ru/scripts/template.dll?Rt=2&Tn=22&ini=20.ini&Base=love&That=love&sf=timestamp&sort=8&fld_Phone=8(812)9706058

From that group, Marina looks particularly adorable. That picture is at least a year old, though, as I recall seeing it last year when I was perusing omen.

I tried calling that place from the US yesterday just to see if the phone person spoke Angliski. Unfortunately, nyet. So all I know at this point is that they are located near the Puskinskaya metro. If anyone with better Russian skills wants to report on their exact location and hours that would be great.

[Member #4732]

Question on metro stations. I was trying to cross reference a metro stop and I was having difficulty locating the station called "Новочеркасская" which translates to Novocherkasskaya.

After correlating several maps, I finally determined that on SOME maps, including the one I had searched exhaustively, this station is actually listed as KpacНовочеркасская - Krasnovocherkasskaya.

Is this a common issue with metro station names? Or is this the exception?

[One O Nine]

The station is definitely simply Novocherkasskaya - New Circassian.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&q=petersburg+metro&btnG=Search

I can't find a single map that would have a 'Kras' in front of that station name. That's not even Russian. I can't find any street or landmark nearby that'd have 'Kras' in it and could have merged with the caption, so it's most likely a typo on your map. I suggest buying a new one.

[Member #4732]

yeah, its strange, must be a typo, though its consistent on both the metro insert and the main map itself. Actually, i mistyped as well. On this map it is spelled Krasnogvardeyskaya. Well the good news is that this is an anomaly. Its tough enough dealing with cyrilic without allowing for > 1 name per station.

The map is the laminated Berndston City Streets series map for St. P. Otherwise its a good map

[CA Traveler]

Not that it really matters, but in Moscow there are several, at least three metro stops that begin with "Kras"... including a Krasnogvardeyskaya stop. Of course, many of the Spb metro stops have the same names as the Moscow metro stops, but is it possible that a Moscow posting got mixed up with the Spb posting? Is the phone number a Spb number?

The "Новочеркасская" stop is very easy to find on the Spb metro stops...

Keep in mind that there is no really pattern to the "transliteration" of the Cyrillic alphabet and you will often see different spellings for the same Cyrillic name.

[One O Nine]

Aha! There's your answer.

http://podzemka.spb.ru/history/1/

The metro station was called Krasnogvardeiskaya until 1992, and then was renamed to Novocherkasskaya. Your map is simply really, really obsolete. Do buy a new one.

P.S. I didn't mean that anything starting with 'Kras' is not Russian. I meant that 'kras-novo-cherkasskaya' is not Russian. For the word starting with 'kras-' to mean anything in Russian, we'd need the second syllable as well, which is missing there. Kras is a first syllable of a common two-syllable root that means 'Red', as in case of the Krasnogvardeiskaya - Red Guards; or 'beautiful' as in 'krasavitza' (which is etymologically interesting because in old Russian 'red' and 'beautiful' meant the same thing). Anyway this doesn't really matter.

[Member #4732]

classic example of B&S photos.

This lady uses two diff numbers, one for the B&S photos and the other for the real photos.

Here are the B&S
http://www.ston.ru/list.php?foto=p13063_2.jpg&g=%C8%ED%E4%E8%E2%E8%E4%F3%E0%EB%EA%E8&link=13063

Here is the real
http://alinaescort.boom.ru/photoalbum.html

Hmm, which do I prefer?

FYI - the aptly named putana web site allows visitors to post comments. There you will find quite a few of the more attractive girls annotated with comments saying "leftist photo", which I assume means false. There are a few exceptions where the comments say "true photos".

http://www.putana.nu/ancets.php?city=%D1.-%CF%E5%F2%E5%F0%E1%F3%F0%E3

[Russia Guy]

I return to the USA worn out from more than just my travels. One week in Russia is just never enough.

The first few days in SPB I spent with my ex-girlfriend. She decided that she wanted me back (suprise) and tried everything in the book to prove it :P After 3 days with her I struck out into Petersburg to find out what was up.

Thursday night I returned to Magrib for the infamous expat night. I went in early, around 23:00 so that I could get my bearings, and I ran into a girl that I knew from 2 years ago that occasionally works at Magrib. Olga is 5'2 about 105 lbs, blonde and a 9.5 in my book. She remembered me from before and we talked for a few moments. She said that she had taken another job with a local newspaper for a while but she quit and that was why she was out. I asked her how much and she thought for a moment and said $150. I figured that because I knew her I wouldn't haggle and off we went.

The apartment that I rented in SPB had a nice jacuzzi tub, and this was definately a hit. Olga undressed and I had forgotten that she has this inverted nipple thing going on where they push in until you suck on them and then they stand at attention. We got in the jacuzzi and she started a very nice BBBJ as I backed her pussy up to one of the jets. She didn't last long before we headed to bed. Good missionary finished up doggy. I broke out the champaign and popped a V. Did it again before falling asleep. Woke up with wood and slipped on a condom and did her from the side. Back to sleep and in the morning she gave me a beautiful BBBJ, CIM and a swallow for good lock before she left.

Friday night I went out to Tutsy. As I went in there were two asian guys getting kicked out and an attractive blonde was right in the middle of it. As I went in she grabbed onto me as a shield and kept saying that I was, "Very beautiful boy." Her name was also Olga and she was 5'7, 130 bad blonde dye job, but had a kind of trailer trash do me quality to her. I know that Tutsy is expensive so around 3 after blowing about 1000rr on lap dances I asked Olga if she wanted to go home with me. She said that she was off at 6. 6 rolled around and I waited outside. There were 2 Russian guido types in their BMW 7 series waiting as well so the militsia did not bother us as we waited. She came out and back to the apartment we went.

Olga ended up being a wild one. She has a tounge stud that she kept playing with all night. One vitamin V, 3 times with Olga including once bent over the back of the leather lounge chair. Great BBBJ. She really enjoyed anal fingering but would not let me slip it that way. In the morning she gave me her email and walked out with me. At the corner she kissed me and asked me to email her when I come back to Russia, and walked away without asking for a penny!!! God bless this country. I am already saving up for my return.

[Doctor_Skank]

Hi RG!

Great story... the bad dye job trailer court trash blonde is one of nature's greatest creations, appreciated worldwide!

As for Tutsy, where is it... what is it? Strip club? details would be great... thanks!

[Russia Guy]

Tutsy Bar is a strip club on a boat over on Vaselivesky Ostrov. From the center take a taxi over Lt Schmidt bridge and take a left. About 1 km down on the left you will see a boat covered in Christmas lights with "Tootsy" in big red letters. The entry is 400rr and drinks are reasonably priced. The strippers go full nude and circulate for nice in booth table dances for 50rr tips. If you see something that you like there are rooms upstairs that go full service 1hr for 4500rr. I know that it is a little pricey but you can see / feel the prospect during a dance and find one that is worth it. On Friday nights they have an awesome floor show with 8-10 girls and a midget with a strap on. My favorite strip club in SPB, full of locals and much less expensive than Golden Dolls or Maximus. Have fun.

[Guy #2]

[QUOTE=Rovnak]classic example of B&S photos.

This lady uses two diff numbers, one for the B&S photos and the other for the real photos.

Here are the B&S

http://www.ston.ru/list.php?foto=p13063_2.jpg&g=%C8%ED%E4%E8%E2%E8%E4%F3%E0%EB%EA%E8&link=13063

Here is the real

http://alinaescort.boom.ru/photoalbum.html

Hmm, which do I prefer?

That's fucked up, given the short stay for most travellers. And this dog charges $100 an hour.

[Pacific1]

I'm going to be in St. Petersberg the first 2 weeks of Sept. I'm a newbie to the P4P scene there and want to know if any fellow mongers want to hang out for a beer or two. Also, I'm staying at the Radisson on Nevsky. Anyone had problems bringing in women past security? What is their policy on having female visitors?

[Russia Guy]

Also, I'm staying at the Radisson on Nevsky. Anyone had problems bringing in women past security? What is their policy on having female visitors?The Radisson is not bad for visitors as long as you don't come in late or loudly. When you book your room book a double and ask for 2 room keys on check in. This does make a difference at times. This is a good central location directly across from Magrib. The only downside is that you have to go directly past reception to get to the elevators. Stop by the bar for a bit with female company if it is still open before bolting for the room and the desk is a bit more forgiving.

Good luck.

[Jimbehr2000]

I stayed there a few weeks ago and had no problem with security. Walked right past them with a girl without a problem. The girl I took from Tribunal expressed concern she would have to pay security a tip (up to $50) on her way out. When we finished, I escorted her outside to a taxi. She was very grateful and security didn't hit her up for a bribe. I have found security in most countries doesn't hassle the girls if the guest is escorting them. It has worked for me far more often than not. I'll post a pic of the Tribunal girl tonite. She wasn't beautiful but she was very sweet and a very dedicated worker.

Once security sees you are a player they may even try to send you a girl. PM me if you want some details.

[Dangerous Dan]

And this site: Best Ladies has a Languages category so you can see which ones speak English ( Английский )

http://www.bestladies.ru/forms/search.php?action=search&city=1&type=0&age_low=1&age_high=11111&height_low=1&height_high=111111&weight_low=1&weight_high=111111&breast_size=0&price_low=1&price_high=11111

17 of the 36 list English.I just had a look at this site and immediately saw a familiar face.

http://www.bestladies.ru/forms/shablon2.php?id=145

She is not a Russian hooker!

This is her site http://www.katesplayground.com/

[JustGotBack]

Site seems bogus. Unless American porn stars have decided to be escorts in Russia. Some of those pictures still have the porn company watermarks.


And this site: Best Ladies has a Languages category so you can see which ones speak English ( Английский )

http://www.bestladies.ru/forms/search.php?action=search&city=1&type=0&age_low=1&age_high=11111&height_low=1&height_high=111111&weight_low=1&weight_high=111111&breast_size=0&price_low=1&price_high=11111

17 of the 36 list English.

[Pete711]

Unless you just like to drink of go there to watch the locals or to see the shows, there is no reason to go to any of the clubs (discos) to find providers. Also skip the expensive Western style hotels. Stay in a Russian hotel like Octoberski (On Ligofski (?) Prospect). Check out a Lonely planet guide book for a list of Russian hotels. You will save a bundle. There is either a small bar or small resturant on each floor. Providers congregate in one or two of these and await your selection. They accompany you to your room. This system eliminates any need for transport or doorman issues. There is at least a 50% turnover each day so you see a lot of new faces. I never paid more than $50 and got a full hour of service. Most begin and end with a shower. You are welcome to participate in this clensing ritual.

Have fun

[Member #4732]

i can add a bit to vincevoyeur's great report.

i saw ksyusha (pronounced shoosha ) from photomodeli

http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=147&phpsessid=985b33990ec648cf41e4a9d192ed475d

actually, i did not know it was photomodeli. stupid me, my first night in spb i was walking past goldengirls and doorman told me i could take a look for free. of course, i wasn't going to stay, so i looked around and walked outside. there was an azerbaijaini hanging outside with car who asked what i wanted. i said "woman of course". he said he knew great place and would negotiate for girl to come back to my apartment. i knew i would have to give him a commission but what the hell, i have to learn the ropes and he might know a great unlisted house. so i get in his car and off we go, he's on the phone, speed dialing houses, saying "i have a very picky american, do you have any beauties". interestingly, one house actually told him, "no beauties tonight". so we arrived at nevsky 63 and the madam meets us outside. we go up to apartment. line up forms of about 8 girls. shusha was the best for my eye. she was about 5 pounds more than she shows in the pix. she accompanied me back to hotel for a wonderful two hour session. she pulled out copy of photomodeli magazine and showed me her pic.

since we did not arrive until 3 am, she stayed until after 5 and split which was fine with me as i had plans the next day. she had nice dimples in her ass and was excellent in bed. recommended.

[Member #4732]

Guys, I will be in SPb for several months. Will be staying in apartment with satellite TV. I can negotiate for special channels, but I am unable to find any information on whether the satellite TV providers in SPb offer such channels. Does anyone have the lowdown? We can continue this in private message format.

PS - since I will be in SPb for several months any board members who wish to compare notes over a beer feel free to private message me.

[Member #4732]

Adding to friendly hotel list. I stayed at the Renaissance, near Isaac's place, and brought back a woman from Tribunal one night. I did not see any door security as we entered at about 2 am so I am not sure if they are friendly or I just got lucky.

[Member #4732]

What is the deal with Tribunal dancers? Has anyone ever succeeded in seeing one outside of the club? I know they are off limits to customers while in the club.

I was smitten with one of them in particular and was able to tell her so in the back area of the club outside the scrutiny of the management. She would not give me her number but asked for mine. She did not call but she might have been confused by the country code since I did not have a local number. I am thinking of going back and will try to pursuade her to follow up, but I am wondering if this is just pie in the sky.

[Pacific1]

Vincevoyeur,

I honestly wasn't able to understand most of your report. Anyway, the rating with the link and name is enough :) Thanks.

What exactly do you mean by "living room"? Do the locations mentions in Photomodeli have their own rooms where you can hang out for a day? Or do you have to take the woman back to your hotel/apt?

[Member #4732]

easy Vince. I am talking about one dancer in particular, and she is by no means fat.

However, I agree with you re photomodeli, they seem reliable and have acurate (though possibly dated) photos, which is more than one can say for most of the other apartments on omen and putana and other web sites.

[Firebird]

Have been reviewing the Forum but could not find any info for hotel near the LENEXPO pavilion. This will be my first trip to Russia so any recommendations of safe "girl friendly' hotel would be appreciated near some action.

I like to bring back talent to my room for some LT action.

Do not speak any Russian. I guess I have to get a map and find Nevsky, Magrib, Metro and Marstall mentioned in the forrum. If anyone planning a trip to the Far East, I can help.

Firebird

[Dant75]

I have been to Saint Petersburg. About our broken english : we are not native english speakers, we don't practise every day, and it's not with russian people that we could improve it!

We have visited all of photomodeli's salons. There are 8 salons in the center or near the center, maximum 10 mn away from a metro station : large apartments with 3, 4 or 5 bedrooms, modern or soviet style but always clean. They are opened 24/7 permanently with 4 to 10 girls and ruled by a madam. The madam and girls change every day, they work inside about 1 day out of 3. There are more than 100 girls in the catalogue : online on http://www.photomodeli.ru and printed edition every month. All the girls are not in the catalogue, I guess more than half of them (not the most beautiful ones), so there are more than 200 girls working there, maybe 250.

Photomodeli is the most reliable way to spend good time with charming girls in St Petersburg.

=> Most of their photos are real, although slightly or heavily enhanced with Photoshop. Sometimes your dream girl on catalogue is less than average, but it's definitely more accurate than individual ads or escort agencies. And if you don't like her, you can choose the girl next to her.

=> They range from 4 to 8 in looks, not many 8s, don't expect to find real stunners all the time (they would probably earn more money in other places) but you can find really good looking ones.

=> Prices are reasonnable : 1 hour = 1500 to 2500 rbl (43 to 72 euros), 2 hours = 2000 to 3500 rbl (57 to 100 euros). If 1 hour is 1500 or 1800 rbl, more than 3 hours is 1000 rbl per hour, ie 4 hours = 4000 rbl, 8 hours = 8000 rbl (I don't know the corresponding price for the top salons).

=> They are honest : the price is the same for russians or tourists and is clearly mentionned on the website. Price depends of the quality of the salon, not on the girl : no bargain with the girl, you simply choose the one you like the most. Several times I have leaved my money while in the bathroom, nothing was stolen (but don't carry too much cash, simple precaution)

=> Most of the girls have good attitude with their clients and are willing to make you spend a good time. I have been with 8 of them : 2 were disappointing (mechanical but not unpleasant), 4 were good performance, and 2 really good sex. Everything is covered (I prefer that), no DFK (I also didn't ask for it), and no anal.

=> You can do it inside the salon or in your place. The price is the same, the taxi is included or not expensive.

Only drawback is that they speak poor english or no english at all. The madam often speaks only russian, sometimes she asks one of her girls to translate. There is only a few girls who can speak intermediate english, so you have to learn some russian words. Most important ones are "Zdrastvuite. Ya na ulitse ou salona. Pajalousta vstretite minia" : "Hello. I'm in the street in front of the salon, please meet me".

Here is the standard procedure :

1. Good thing to do is to call them before to see who is working today. There are more girls and more customers in the evening but still a good choice in the afternoon.

2. You come in front of the building and call the salon (there is always a phone cabin next to it). These are discreet places, you don't know the apartment number. Outside there is no indication about what's inside and there is a security entrance code.

3. The madam meets you in the street and leads you inside. You leave your shoes, go to the living-room. You can take a printed catalogue which is not available in kiosk. You can also order drinks (prices similar to cafe, not high rates like in night clubs)

4. A few minutes later, 4 to 10 girls enter dressed in sexy underwear. It's rather embarrassing for them to be displayed like fresh meat, so don't hesitate too much.

5. You choose you girl, pay the madam, get a clean towel, take a shower in the bathroom (no shower cabin in the rooms, it's not an hotel, the girl also takes often a shower but not with you), and go to a room. The sheets are changed with every customer.

6. You do what you have to do with the girl. 5 minutes before the end, the madam knocks at you door. Hour is exactely 60 minutes.

7. You and the girl get dressed, she leads you back to the door with a big smile and a kiss on your cheek

As mentioned before, you can also take her to your place. Time begins when the girl enters in your place and ends when she leaves. It's convenient for everybody because in the evening most of their rooms are engaged. The driver comes shortly into you apartment to make sure there is nobody else and that you have a bathroom and double bed. He comes back at the end of the meeting and takes the girl back to the salon. Since they don't speak good english and some photos can be misleading, it's better to go first to the salon, choose the girl and bring her back instead of calling them and wait in your apartment.

Next time I will write about each salon I have visited and the 8 girls with whom I have spend a few nice hours. To be continued...

[Pacific1]

Dante,

This is a REALLY awesome report. Thanks. I look forward to the rest of it.

I will be staying at the Radisson that has its own security and really don't want to deal with some pimp going up to my room to check it out.

I'm definitely going to make a trip to the salon to pick a girl though, since it seems like a pretty good deal to me.


=> As mentioned before, you can also take her to your place. Time begins when the girl enters in your place and ends when she leaves. It's convenient for everybody because in the evening most of their rooms are engaged. The driver comes shortly into you apartment to make sure there is nobody else and that you have a bathroom and double bed. He comes back at the end of the meeting and takes the girl back to the salon. Since they don't speak good english and some photos can be misleading, it's better to go first to the salon, choose the girl and bring her back instead of calling them and wait in your apartment.

[Firebird]

Dant75,

Excellent report. look forward to reading your next report on the 8 beauties. If you can identify the ones that speak some English that would be great. I have an upcoming trip and would like to invite talent to my hotel room

[Member #4732]

Dante,

nice report. What is the expectation regarding multiple shots? Does it vary girl to girl? I often find myself in the unfortunate position of being ready to come at about the half hour mark and then having to decide "no, hold off because they will finish session". But if I hold off, I am often unable to shoot later on and then the girl is sad because she thinks she disappointed me. If i knew 60 minutes was 60 minutes regardless of shots, then I could better enjoy myself.

[Firebird]

Dante,

This is a REALLY awesome report. Thanks. I look forward to the rest of it.

I will be staying at the Radisson that has its own security and really don't want to deal with some pimp going up to my room to check it out.

I'm definitely going to make a trip to the salon to pick a girl though, since it seems like a pretty good deal to me.Hey Pacific1,

I was thinking of staying also at the Radisson for my upcoming trip. It would be great if you could file a report if you had any problems bring in the local "talent" and also if you used the Photomodeli girls.

Thanks - Firebird

[Firebird]

Is anyone familiar with the Hotel Pribaltiyskaya or Hotel Sovetskaya? Are these "girl friendly" and near the action on Nevsky Pr? How do they compare to the Radisson?

Sorry for all these questions, but I am running out time and I need to make decision fast.

Thanks for feedback,

Firebird

[Guido88]

Rovnak,

My experience with multiple shots in St Petes salons is that the girls encourage them. They know that if you are well drained and happy the may receive a much better tip.

Fire when ready.

Guido88

[Dant75]

Pacific1, Firebird, Rovnak : thanks for your encouragements.

Rovnak : I'm not a sex machine. For me 1 hour is one shot, 2 hours is 2 shots. I also make acquaintance, talking (take a russian language method, they appreciate your efforts to speak little russian) and get massage (usually good massage). Better choose 2 hours because 2nd hour isn't expensive. My friend got as much shots as he could during 1 or 2 hours. He also had some DFK, OWO and CIM depending on the girl.

Pacific1 & Firebird : the driver won't go inside your hotel, he just has to check that you have decent place for your girl, and for sure Radisson is a decent one but I don't know if it is girl friendly. For sure it's more comfortable and intimate to do it in your hotel, but for me it wasn't so bad to do it in the salons.

**** Kamennoostrovskiy 24 (http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=2&place=4) ****

1 hour = 2500 rbl (71 euros), 2 hours = 3500 rbl (100 euros)
It's their top salon, 10 mn from Petrogradskaya metro, luxurious apartment with large flat TV in the living room and leather sofa.

Unfortunately Vika (http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=124) and Lena (http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=182) were not available during my stay in St Petersburg. I was proposed 2 tall girls with good figures, but I didn't like their faces (don't know why), then 2 other girls which were less beautiful. I insisted to see Ruslana (http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=9), she finally came on show and I understood why the madam first told me not before the evening. She didn't look good, like she didn't sleep since 24 hours and had angry face, sorry Ruslana!

So I told the madam that I would go to the neighbouring salon in the same building and she called her collegue. I came another day to Kamennoostrovskiy and saw Mila (http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=10) in the street. She really looks like her photos !

**** Kamennoostrovskiy 24 level 2 (http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=12&place=4) **** (Bolshaya Monetnaya on their printed catalogue)

1 hour = 2500 rbl (71 euros), 2 hours = 3500 rbl (100 euros)
It's just above Kamennoostrovskiy 24 level 1. The madams and girls are not the same but it's the same configuration : luxurious apartement, large flat TV. I went there 3 times. First time I hesitated between Liza (http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=213) and Rimma (http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=149). They are gorgeous, yes it's them on their photos !

I first choosed Liza. She was only available 1 hour because she had to go. She's 170 cm tall and not 175 but still very good figure and magnificent eyes. Nice girl, little english, sweet sex session. But she didn't go in the shower before sex and had strong smell coming out of her unshaved wet pussy. I wanted to book her another time and take her in my bathroom but I didn't have the opportunity with so much other girls and salons to visit.

I came back in the salon for Rimma. Only 1 hour because I had to meet Vince (see Bolchoy PS 104 below). Really hot and lively girl, intermediate english. Very good sex performance, the second best experience of my trip. But after I was concerned about her big black moles all over her body. Of course I saw them during our sex session but I didn't pay attention because it was so exciting. It looks like this (it's not her on the photos but the moles are very similar) : Moles1 (http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/6696/moles13md.jpg) and Moles2 (http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5826/moles20hd.jpg). I hope it's not a serious disease. Please, if someone could meet her and ask her to go to the doctor. Everything was covered for me, but I'm still anxious about it :(

Third visit to this salon : I booked Sonya (http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=115) for 2 hours in my apartment. It was disappointing : she has a few extra kilos (her photos must have been enhanced) and cold attitude with me. Very little english. I had only 1 sex session in 2 hours. The meeting was long to finish for both me and her because the driver came back exactely 2 hours later.

Kamennoostrovskiy 24 level 2 is still my preferred salon. For those who are interested, I can assure that Mira (http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=195) has accurate photos and speaks intermediate english.

**** Marata 22 (http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=10&place=4) ****

1 hour = 2000 rbl (57 euros), 2 hours = 3000 rbl (86 euros)
High class apartment near Plochad Vosstania / Mayakovskaya Metro. I choosed Olya (http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=99) only for one hour late evening because in the afternoon I already had Liza in Kamennoostrovskiy. Actually she has bigger ass and smaller tits than on her photos but she's still a good looking girl. Intermediate english. She did her best to please me although it was difficult for me because it was late and I already had sex in the afternoon. Active girl but some fake moanings.

**** Nevskiy 63 (http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=4&place=4) ****

1 hour = 2000 rbl (57 euros), 2 hours = 3000 rbl (86 euros)
High class apartment with very good location. It's nearly in front of Magrib : you know where to go if you find in Magrib only average girls quoting 200 euros for company between 2am and 7am. It was our first visit to salon but we didn't take any girl because we didn't really like them compared to what was promised on the website. Later we understood that the photos can be enhanced and that the most beautiful girls are not always there. Another day I came back and have been with Milena (http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=208). Nice girl, little overweight but well proportionned with beautiful tits and pussy. Little english, good sweet sex session and relaxation.

**** Nevskiy 95 (http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=5&place=4) ****

1 hour = 1800 rbl (51 euros), 2 hours = 2500 rbl (71 euros)
Good apartment near Plochad Vosstania (less interesting part of Nevskiy Prospect). We went there after having declined the girls from Nevskiy 63. The girls selection was not much better than Nevskiy 63, but it wasn't a painful decision to pick up a girl. I choosed Snezhanna, a sweet petite brunette, 18 y.o., very slim. Intermediate english, not on the web site. I wasn't comfortable to have chosen such a fragile young girl because there was no better girl for me, but she made the job without hesitation or reluctance.

**** Nevskiy 162 (http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=6&place=4) ****

1 hour = 1800 rbl (51 euros), 2 hours = 2500 rbl (71 euros)
Average class apartment 10 mn from Alexandra Nevskogo metro (end of Nevskiy Prospect). I came here for Linda (http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=171) but she was much less attractive than on her photos, good Photoshop work. So I choosed Dasha (http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=202), no english, has a baby and caesarean scar. But she was nice and we had good time. Good massage with oil. When I took her doggy style, it was nice view and enjoyable. She told me she had good pleasure with me (I think she was sincere).

**** Gorokhovaya 46 (http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=7&place=4) ****

1 hour = 1500 rbl (43 euros), 2 hours = 2000 rbl (57 euros)
Average class apartment, Sadovaya Metro. No living room so the girls show themselves in the hall, it seems overcrowded (see below why), I saw girls sleeping in a bed in the corridor, just in front of the kitchen and the bathroom. While the cheapest salon, the girls are not the least beautiful ones. I saw a tall gorgeous girl from central asia. She didn't came on show but a few minutes later when the madam asked her to be a translator. Rather good english, I don't remember her name.

I had 2 wonderful hours with Masha, not on the website, 20 y.o. 165 cm, light brown hair, blue eyes, good looking (not the most beautiful but still pretty), beautiful body. Thanks that Vince didn't choose her first ! She spoke very little english but we had good harmony and understanding :) If she wasn't a working girl, I would have enjoyed to be her boyfriend (she doesn't have one). Like many other girls, she says she's student and that's the way she can pay her studies ($1500 per year only for university registration). Lively, teasing, active sex session, she sure knows how to please a man. The best experience of my trip. During action, her tits became hard and her pussy oozed with white juice. She congratulated me for my performance. I wanted to see her again but she didn't want to come in my apartment and asked me to come to the salon, don't know why, so I went elsewhere to visit other girls. And on my last day in St Petersburg she wasn't working :(

**** Zhukovskogo 21 (http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=8&place=4) ****

We went in front of this building 2 times : first time we couldn't make us understand by the madam. Second time, we asked the address and it was Gorokhovaya 46 ! This salon was closed and the girls moved to Gorokhovaya 46.

**** Bolchoy PS 104 (http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=9&place=4) ****

1 hour = 1800 rbl (51 euros), 2 hours = 2500 rbl (71 euros)
Average class apartment, 5mn from Petrogradskaya Metro and Kamennoostrovskiy 24 salons. There are only women above 35 y.o. : I just had to lead Vince there before my meeting with Rimma in Kamennoostrovskiy 24.

Photomodeli is the biggest salon chain in St Petersburg. There is also Emmanuel on http://www.prolove.spb.ru with 3 salons but we didn't visited them because we were really satisfied by Photomodeli. Actually I have only been with Photomodeli girls. Once in Marstall, I spoke a few minutes with Yana, a big breasted brunette. She acted like a business woman and not a girl willing to have sex with you. Once I said that I already visited a salon in the afternoon, I was no more interesting for her. She said she didn't talk for free even though we had paid her red bull drink.

Photomodeli girls often say that they are student who need money for university, holidays on the black sea and latest fashion mobile phone. They don't earn much money while working in the salon : about 30% of what you pay (800 rbl if price is 2500, 1000 rbl if price is 3500) but all of your tip. It may seem very little but in escort agencies it's about 40% and so called individuals in Magrib, Marstall or ads also have to pay for the bar and their pimp. The salon offers rooms and security, so 30% for the girl is rather "honest". While working in the salon, they feel safe instead of going to an unknown place. They don't work full time in salon, during 1 day they can have 1, 2 or sometimes 3 customers.

Of course you miss the fun of picking a girl in Magrib or Marstalls, but it's much more reliable and cheaper. Also for those who prefer daytime or evening action like me, it's more comfortable. I wouldn't say that these salons are the best place on earth, but it's definitely a must to visit in St Petersburg and imho the most reliable and best price/quality. Hope you will confirm my report with hot action ;)

[Firebird]

Dant75,

That was an EXCELLENT report. WOW. Great detail. Concerning the black "moles", do not worry about this. These are just "beauty marks" and not a disease that can catch. Other the girl possibly getting checked for "melanoma" (skin cancer) it is not a form of STD. Can't wait to partake of the action - now to find a reasonable and safe hotel nearby? Any suggestions?

Firebird

[Aldeano]

Anyone can tell me where I can find a place like the night flight of Moscow in San Peterbursg?

Thanks for you help guys.

[Guido88]

Tronco,

You could try some of the high-end hotel bars in the evening, Radison or the Hotel Europa. You might find some high $$$$ girls. For better pricing and still good quality try the Magrib, the best in my view for the club girls. Will vary night to night.

Other options Marstals or the Tribnal, both fairly low quality the times I have been there.

You might try the web or salons, both cost effective. If you shop correctly quality can be excellent.

Enjoy,

Guido88

[Bladrunr]

Hello All,

Longtime lurker, first time poster. I've been to Ukraine several times, but not Russia. Looking to travel to SPB this Thanksgiving (yeah, family sucks; what about it. So looking for quick advice:

1. Reputable marriage agencies?

2. Great apartments to stay at?

3. Never seen this website on any ISG post:

www.badrussiangirls.com

Any experiences with this site?

Thanks,

Peace

[Firebird]

I was advised that the Radisson SAS is not a "girl friendly" hotel.

Are any of the following hotels "girl friendly" and near the action? Grand Hotel Emerald, Hotel Corinthia Nevsky, Grand Europe, Hotel Astoria- please advise.

Thanks,

Firebird

[GandJim]

3. Never seen this website on any ISG post:

www.badrussiangirls.com

Any experiences with this site?

I used this website last year to find girls in Ukraine. You must pay a fee to get the phone number or email address of the girl and it's a total waste of money.

Girls who no longer work are not removed, so 90% of their database is out of date. For the remaining ones, you can find them on other (free) web sites.

In Ukraine, 99% of the girls are working for Gia or SFH (free sites). I was really pissed off as, initially, I saw on BadRussianGirls some girls who were not on Gia or SFH websites, so I paid the fee. It turns out that the phone number and email address are those of Gia and SFH. They are former girls of these agencies, who have been removed from their respective website because the girls stopped working long ago.

I've also checked for Belarus, and girls are no longer working too. For Moscow, same girls are on tons of other (free) web sites.

I've not checked St Pete, but I doubt it's different.

Jim

[Guido88]

Bladrunr

This site http://www.badrussiangirls.com/ has been getting poor reviews for several years, probably a waste of time.

Guido88

[Dant75]

Saint Petersbourg is the capital of the porn in Russia
First porn producer was Sergei Pryanishnikov / SP Company http://www.videofilms.ru, rather russian amateur style. Since 2 years, St Petersburg seems like a new porn place cheaper than Budapest and Prague. There are other western and russian porn productions in St Petersburg like http://www.sineplex.com (really hardcore movies on DVD) and http://www.teencoreclub.com (also heavy hardcore on the web).

I thought it could be interesting to meet their actresses for photoshooting and maybe more, and found the following erotic model agencies (registration required but they don't spam you) :
http://www.mixphoto.com
http://www.newrussianmodels.com
http://www.russiansexmodels.com

You can ask to shoot famous erotic models like Viktoria (http://www.modelshrines.com/models/v/viktoria.shtml) or Masha / Koika (http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/koika.html), $220 for softcore shooting, maybe $100 if the model is less famous.

You can also tell them that you want to make a hardcore shooting and don't have enough money to hire a male model, so you will perform yourself in POV style (Point Of View) ;) But it's minimum $200 for a single scene ($300 for the most beautiful girls). Some of them also provide escort but around $400 a night. We didn't use them because Photomodeli (http://www.photomodeli.ru) was much cheaper.

There is also this one : http://catsmodels.spb.ru. Real stunners, some 9s, but it's only for artistic nude and minimum 200 euros for a photoshoot. If you make photos with models, don't forget to post them here :)

[Jimbehr2000]

Firebird: Read my report from 7/28/05. I had no problems bringing girls to Radisson. When negotiating with the girls, inform them you will escort them to AND from the room when finished. Hotel security may hit them up for a bribe if they are alone, but they won't do so if you are accompanying them. Its a nice but expensive hotel located across from Magrib. Its an easy walk to Marstall's from there also.

[Mixphoto]

First porn producer was Sergei Pryanishnikov / SP Company http://www.videofilms.ru, rather russian amateur style. Since 2 years, St Petersburg seems like a new porn place cheaper than Budapest and Prague. There are other western and russian porn productions in St Petersburg like http://www.sineplex.com (really hardcore movies on DVD) and http://www.teencoreclub.com (also heavy hardcore on the web).

I thought it could be interesting to meet their actresses for photoshooting and maybe more, and found the following erotic model agencies (registration required but they don't spam you) :
http://www.mixphoto.com
http://www.newrussianmodels.com
http://www.russiansexmodels.com

You can ask to shoot famous erotic models like Viktoria (http://www.modelshrines.com/models/v/viktoria.shtml) or Masha / Koika (http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/koika.html), $220 for softcore shooting, maybe $100 if the model is less famous.

You can also tell them that you want to make a hardcore shooting and don't have enough money to hire a male model, so you will perform yourself in POV style (Point Of View) ;) But it's minimum $200 for a single scene ($300 for the most beautiful girls). Some of them also provide escort but around $400 a night. We didn't use them because Photomodeli (http://www.photomodeli.ru) was much cheaper.

There is also this one : http://catsmodels.spb.ru. Real stunners, some 9s, but it's only for artistic nude and minimum 200 euros for a photoshoot. If you make photos with models, don't forget to post them here :)We do not give models for private shoots. We find no sense.

[Russia Guy]

On my recent trip to SPB I stayed at the Admiralty 1 apartment listed on the site http://www.dailyexpress.ru/ I was very impressed with the accomodation, and so were the young ladys that I had over during the week. The jacuzzi tub was a big hit! It is right on the Neva close to the Hermitage. Hotels in Petersburg are overpriced and undersized. This is a great alternative.

[Romeo1]

I was advised that the Radisson SAS is not a "girl friendly" hotel.

Are any of the following hotels "girl friendly" and near the action? Grand Hotel Emerald, Hotel Corinthia Nevsky, Grand Europe, Hotel Astoria- please advise.

Thanks,

FirebirdHotel Corinthia Nevsky permits several girls to sit next to the elevators late and night and ask whether their company is needed. The hotel is across the (busy) street from Magribs, where there are professional and non professional girls dancing till late.

[Dant75]

We do not give models for private shoots. We find no sense.I see that you watch over this forum. Hmm... That's not what you told me when I asked you about amateur photoshooting. I have negociated a price for private shoot and you answered me :

About models You will need pay $XXX per 2 hours for work of each model and $XX brokerage to me for each model. If you like my offer let me know when you come to St Petersburg.

But I understand that you don't want to send your girls to a monger's appartment. You are not escort agency, when I asked you about a night with one of your models, you didn't reply.

RussianSexModels (http://www.russiansexmodels.com) : you can ask a hardcore scene with a russian pornstar for $200 - $300 and say that you will perform yourself instead of hiring a male model. Don't know if the girl will be alone or if there will be an assistant, this is acting, not escorting ;)

NewRussianModels (http://newrussianmodels.com) : escort service with some of their girls, $400 - $500 a night.

[Anteme1]

Do any know if it's possible to take the girls to an apartment or a hotel as escort?

[Bytor13]

I'm new here, so not sure what doing yet, but I'm looking for some info. I will be visiting St. Petersburgh early next year and will be looking for some 'company'. I like women with long hair and am wondering if anyone here knows of any or knows where i should start looking to find women like this.

Thanks in advance for any help, it is much appreciated.

[Sex Traveller]

I tried photomodeli last week (Nevski 95) and it was a big disappointment. I had an appartment (See elsewhere in this forum), which was ok. I wanted to take a girl to my appartment, but the lady in charge did not allow this after I told her where it was, it was 'unsafe' she said (?). I looked at the room she offered instead at Nevsky 95 and I agreed. The room was ok: large bed, nice mirror, large bathroom. The girls lined up in the living room which is indeed a little embarrassing and I choosed one, Masha (not in the catalog) for 2 hours. A very beautiful girl, blonde and green eyes if I remember well. She did not speak a word of English. I am lucky to speak some Russian, and normally my Russian combined with some English is enough for a conversation, but with no English at all it was difficult. The sex was quite bad. First she gave a massage which was average but nothing special and then she allowed to have sex, but allowed to come one time only. She gave no oral, and I was not allowed to touch her body, she also didn't want to strip. So what do you do with 2 hours if you cannot have sex and no conversation? I decided to leave earlier.

[Sex Traveller]

I tried photomodeli -nevsky 95 last week, it was a big disappointment. Not allowed to take girl to my appartment, the girl (masha) was goodlooking but did not speak any english, only average massage, only one time sex although I paid for 2 hours. No striptease, no oral, no touching allowed. So I left earlier.

[Sex Traveller]

I tried a few stripclubs in St Petersburg last week. Girls where not stripping completely nude in any of the clubs I visited. Actually it was more dancing then stripping. So not very interesting compared with clubs I visited in Portugal, New Zealand, Netherlands.

The first one I visited was Maximus. Big club, entrance was 700 rub but drinks normal price. Very crowded and lots of girls. I liked it.

Second was Gotika. Somewhat difficult to find. Cheap entrance, I think 150 rub. Hardly no people there so all the girls where coming to me and asked for a tip. Too much, so I left early. Not recommended.

I found a club on a boat at Neva river, Tutsi bar but did not go in, because it did not look like crowed with people, and atmosphere did not look friendly. It was rather far from the center.

The last one was Golden dolls. First I didn't want to go there because I heared so many bad things about it. But it was not so bad. Entrance is not cheap, 1000 rub I think. Not crowed but enough people. Friendly girls. I even had a private dance there and I liked it. Private dance and drinks not too expensive. You can have sex there also but that is way to expensive (400 dollar). What I didn't like was the checkroom where the man was not very kindly asking for a tip after he returned my coat.

[Guido88]

Sex Traveller,

In regards to paying for 2 hours of sex and only getting one orgasm, no oral, no touching, you made a classic mistake that most of us do when we first go to Russia.

You Were Way Too Nice!

The girls know that foreign men are way to nice and some will try exploit that fact. The girls know their jobs what is expected and will do their jobs correctly if you direct them.

You must act as a Russian man, take no bullshit, repeatedly and strongly insist they do what is required. You may hear no several times, continue to direct strongly and you will eventually hear in a meek voice “Ok”

You paid for two hours of sex. I have never had a refusal for two hours of sex but have had girls refuse oral. With proper direction the refusal became “Ok” and good oral ensued.

You set the ground rules, if there is a problem go to the manager and say the girl is shit and you want another.

You might try Fantasy Salon, at #12 Sovietskaya 2 apartment #14 it is 1 block over from the Moscow train station. Good girls and good service.

Guido88

[Pat Reno]

I think that Guido 88 wrote the best advice any of us can hear. I am just now discovering his advice after years of doing business in Russia. You can get Russian girls at hotels, saunas, everywhere even without good advice. But his advice is the best. With all of the oil money going around Moscow,and a little bit Petersburg, attitudes among girls with foreigners happens more often than before. But as soon as they see that you are strict, thy respond. The compliment my girl on the side that I have on the side for a couple years, former pro, is " you are a strict man" It is the Russian mentality and culture. Thanks for the great post Guido 88.

[Klitchkov]

Yeah. Right,

Please be advised that there is usually organization of bad bad boys behind those pros though. They wouldn't be happy to know about you being rough toward girls. Sometimes they can violate somebody too :). Exercise common sense and safe precautions b/c you are easy target for them.

[Eros74]

I totally agree with Guido88 too, be strict or you will end to pay and to have only "conversation".

Thanks to Guido88 I went with him to Fantasy to my second day in Piter and I had the best pussy of all my 10 days in Piter, Fantasy is good location, so close to Nevksi and not expensive, it worth it for sure!

Viki from Fantasy sept 04.

[Eros74]

I am not able to put the foto, anybody knows why?

[Dant75]

Sex Traveller,

S sorry that you had bad experience in Nevsky 95. I don't recall this Masha, probably she wasn't working when I visited the salon (no shower in the rooms, there is one bathroom for the entire apartment which has 4 rooms). I was nice with Photomodeli girls and 6 girls out of 8 gave me good service. I never ask for BBBJ and sometimes I wasn't allowed to touch pussy with my hand, but it wasn't a big deal for me.

Lukasek & Guido88 : could you tell us more about Fantasy salon ?
Is it this one http://www.fantaziyalove.ru ? 3 salons, do you know where are the 2 other salons ?

Do they speak english ? Accurate photos ? How many girls ? Nice and beautiful ones ? Good and clean apartment ? Good services?

Thanks

[Guido88]

Dante75,

Originally this was the correct link to get to Fantasy salon. http://www.amurspb.ru/. Looking now I do not see the salon page. On the plus side they have added several options for kink and perversion.

Fantasy is located 1 block from the train station that goes to Moscow. The street is Sovietskaya 2, building #12 Apartment # 14. They also advertise in the magazines you get at the kiosks. Ask for Rendezvous mag. They have a sister salon Massage + thats not bad either. Both have had from 2-8 girls with some great quality. Late afternoons are the best before the rush. Check the photo section for quality. Most do not speak English, the service & apartments were fine.

Check the photo section for quality- you decide

I have also had good luck with the Domino agency. No link. There is a good salon 168 Starry Nevsky, Up to a dozen girls. This is the one where Lucasek proudly asks 12 girls who takes it up the ass Several laughed, a couple blushed and four raised their hands.

Home delivery works well, within an hour the girl will be at the door. Wrong girl or not cute you send her back. Check the magazines.

Petersburg is full of salons

Enjoy.

Guido88

[Pacific1]

I was in Spb for 2 weeks and checked out Nevsky 63, Marstalls and Magrib.

Marstalls was the worst. Worn out, older chicks. The strippers were hot and I enjoyed watching some dude bring up a bunch of drunk russian gals and guys up to the stage and make them do silly stuff. Not recommended for p4p.

Magrib simply has the best looking women - unfortunately, most of the best looking ones aren't for sale. There were a few p4p chicks I saw and one very hot one. The hot one didn't speak English beyond "hello, my name is ....." and I didn't speak any Russian so that was the end of that.

Nevsky 63 turned out to be the best deal. I had the pleasure of sampling 3 women, none of whom are on the photomodeli.ru website. The first was a from Kazakstan, asian looking, very enthusiastic, wanted to fuck all the time. Soft moaning all the time. Bad thing - had bo, pussy stank a bit, didn't shower before the deed. Had 2 shots and left before the hour was up.

The next one was heavenly. Young - she said she was 22 or so - perfect tits (she said they were too small), long legs, blonde. Spoke some English and I enjoyed chatting with her while fucking her. Everything covered, no DFK and I didn't want DATY. Overall - good experience. I should have gone back to see her again. Sigh.

Third chick spoke no English. Didn't want to allow more than one shot in one hour so I fucked her hard in multiple positions and hit her head against the headboard a couple times. Heh. Slapped her ass quite a bit and did a bit of anal probing, in spite of her protests.

The woman running the place wanted to charge me an extra 1500 roubles to take the chicks to the Radisson so I said fuck it. I tried to argue with her that they wouldn't make the girl pay extra if she walked in and out with me but the ***** wouldn't listen so I let it go. The place was half a block down from the Radisson so I didn't care too much.

I must say - Russian women are incredibly hot. Sitting in the hotel lobby, I would watch the regular morning office traffic walk past and my head was swivelling constantly from side to side. They have this incredible mix of sweet and sexy. And no attitude either. I think if I stayed in Spb for a month or two, I'd find a nice, young, dyevushka or two to sponsor fulltime. Heck, I might even do something more stupid than that. The bitches in LA need to learn a thing or two from these lovely dyevushkas (don't you love that word?).

[Jimbehr2000]

Nice report Pac1. Marstall's sucks and I didn't see or was unable to determine any p4p action at Magrib. Wish I had known about Nevsky 63 when I was in SPB a few months ago. I don't believe there were any posts about it on this board at that time. I did enjoy Tribunal. Did you go there?

I agree with the LA girls taking a few hints about sexuality/attitude from the Russian girls. And I also stood at the front door of the Radission during the day watching the parade of girls walk by. I was in complete disbelief at how beautiful so many of them were.

[Doctor_Skank]

A lot of people are reporting trouble identifying pros at Magrib, it was always a bit of a problem. Or has the scene dried up? Any recent action by WSG members? What night? The night of the week makes a big difference...

Here a picture of two girls... which one do you think was working? :)

[Morse68]

I will be in St Pete next weekend. Anyone want to meet for a beer? Pls pm me.

[Jack 2004]

Well, from my experiences, I' dare to say the ones who seem, aren't. The ones who doesn't seem, may be they are working, maybe not. When I say "seem" I mean because of her clothes.


A lot of people are reporting trouble identifying pros at Magrib, it was always a bit of a problem. Or has the scene dried up? Any recent action by ISG members? What night? The night of the week makes a big difference.

Here a picture of two girls... which one do you think was working? :)

[Ismael]

Hey!

Half november I will be in St.Petersburg. I don't have an apartment yet, there. The Agency I do normaly business with does only have apartments for Moscow. Does anyone knows a website with some apartments?

Cheers

[Dusty Bin]

From my recollection from a couple of years ago almost all the girls in Magrib were available in one way or another, but not necessarily on the game. But if it is hookers that you definately want then here is the spotting guide. I am sure it has not changed any...
1) By the entrance to the dance area, arched antrance, just inside is a spot where there is often just one girl standing, looking lonely. Whoever she is, she will be working.

2) By the bar on the right hand side, as you enter the dance area, is a 'meat rack' near the entrance, if you see girls hanging there, then the chances of them not working are very slim.

3) Look out for the young guys with two or three girls each. Too young and not rich enough dressed to be local 'doodz', they will often dance with one or more girls at the same time, showing them off. They are showing off their merchandise.

4) Assume all women there are available, very few go there just for the music! They may not be seeking immediate compensation though, if you have good game and a good, plausible story.

5) I understand that Tursday night is still expat night. The place will be full of women, but there are very few female expats in St Petersburg...

Girls in Magrib all have to pay rent, sometimes newbies will try to avoid doing so. They will, therefore, not do a deal in the club but will often pop out to the bistro on the corner just on the right from the club. If a girl is seen trying this on too often the other girls will dob her in to the security. So, if a girl seems to be wanting to be discreet either leave the club seperately and negotiate (there is no problem with passouts!), or make a 'date' for another time.

The owners of the club are Iranian and they often come in with their friends, the girls who are with them, or hanging around will also be working, but not available until the owners leave, or another time, so it is worth keeping a weather eye open.) just don't hit on either of the manager's girls though!

As a general aside, don't forget that most women in the city live in the suburbs, not the central area, they get trapped after about 01:00 by the raising of the bridges. Some girls will hang around clubs waiting for the bridges to lower, at about 06:00, allowing them to return home, but a very useful gambit is the offer of a nightcap and bed at your nearby apartment, allowing them to get some shut-eye. It has worked very well for me in the past and is one hell of a lot cheaper than renting, but it is best used with a girl you are already talking to, to close a deal. Only a dick will walk around saying 'you wanna come back to my place' to random strangers!

[Dant75]

A lot of people are reporting trouble identifying pros at Magrib, it was always a bit of a problem. Or has the scene dried up? Any recent action by ISG members? What night? The night of the week makes a big difference.

Here a picture of two girls... which one do you think was working? :)
Doc, you must restore the reputation of the non-working girl. First girl (workingornot.jpg (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=30305)) looks like Lada you met in Magrib, september 2004, $100 fare for the night (Day 3: Dirty shoes (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=288123&postcount=292) + photos here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=288124&postcount=418), here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=293229&postcount=433) and here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=293236&postcount=434)). Am I right ? Did I win her telephone number :) ?


Nevsky 63 turned out to be the best deal. I had the pleasure of sampling 3 women, none of whom are on the photomodeli.ru website. (...) The next one was heavenly. Young - she said she was 22 or so - perfect tits (she said they were too small), long legs, blonde. Spoke some English and I enjoyed chatting with her while fucking her. Everything covered, no DFK and I didn't want DATY. Overall - good experience. I should have gone back to see her again. Sigh.

Pacific1, is it the same girl as Jusewah's Olya in the photo gallery : here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=402321&postcount=746), here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=402658&postcount=748), and here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=402660&postcount=749) ?
I've been 2 times in Nevsky 63, didn't meet her :(

[Doctor_Skank]

Dant75:

You win! But I lost her number... shame... she was a banshee. But easy to recognize as working... :)