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Stravinsky
09-22-14, 23:42
You guys crack me up. Why don't you just write the Russian words in Cyrillic? If someone wants to know what they mean, they can just cut and paste them into an online translator.
What are you trying to accomplish with these silly Romanizations of Russian words?
I would prefer to use the Cyrillic but unfortunately I don't know how. I wrote in Cyrillic yesterday and the forum put in meaningless numbers so I had to edit it in Roman.
You guys crack me up. Why don't you just write the Russian words in Cyrillic? If someone wants to know what they mean, they can just cut and paste them into an online translator.
What are you trying to accomplish with these silly Romanizations of Russian words?
Stravinsky
09-23-14, 18:43
I would prefer to use the Cyrillic but unfortunately I don't know how. I wrote in Cyrillic yesterday and the forum put in meaningless numbers so I had to edit it in Roman.It's true, Jackson has the text editor configured to thwart the use of non-Roman characters, but there is a workaround.
The text editor only filters characters when you upload your report, but not when you edit it. So this is the process:
1) Write your report just as you want it to look, Cyrillic characters included.
2) Copy the text of your report.
3) Upload your report.
4) Edit your report after it has uploaded.
5) Delete the text in your uploaded report, with all the gibberish.
6) Paste the text of your original report into the editor.
7) Save your edited report, you should see the Cyrillic characters once it's been updated.
NB: If you write more than one word, or a short phrase, make sure to include a translation of the Russian Cyrillic in English, this is our offering to the Admin Gods to keep them happy.
I always run the Russian text through an online translator first, just to make sure that the result will make sense, in English, just in case someone wants to run it through a translator to see for themselves. So you might want to avoid expressions like, you know... Я вам покажу кузькину мать. :)
счастливо
Sprosil I otvetil.
Why don't you just write the Russian words in Cyrillic? So this is the process:
Photo below is of a girl I met in Petersburg on Mamba a year ago, but who moved to Tver. Met her again for a week this month in Petersburg. Offered to buy her a train ticket, as I was a gentleman, but she insisted on taking the Bus (this is a plot point, by the way). Now I know what your thinking, looking at her photo: she's only a 4/5, but you will just have to take my word for it that she looks better in person. So you can stop reading here if you like: duration: 1 week; Presents (since I was a gentleman), perfume, chocolates, and something she chose from Victorias Secret; cash donative: $1000. Oral with no condom. Classic with. Anal: 'Do I look like I want to have a bowl movement during sex?' (that's a poetic translation of what she said); Handcuffs: only after a bottle of wine and two shots of tequila, with Rammstein playing. Oh, and the cost of her bus tickets, which I can't even remember, but they weren't expensive. Airfare from the US was around $1000.00; apartment was $50 a night. Taxi from Pulkovo was 400 rubles each way.
So, if your still reading, here's the really interesting part. When I met her, she turned up with her best friend, who was arriving to meet some guy she met on the internet. The guy met them with a friend (I was late), and they were all waiting for me, chatting, when I arrived. And then, even though I had a taxi, the guy insisted on giving us a ride to the apartment I rented (on Airbnb) (another plot point, by the way). We took the taxi, but I noticed the guy followed us in his car. Jump to the next day, we are still in bed (I had not been much of a gentleman, unless handcuffing the girl your with to the bedpost qualifies in Russia as gentlemanly. Just might, come to think of it.), it's around 11.30 AM, and there is furious bleeping on the buzzer downstairs. The guy and Natasha Pink Hairs best friend have turned up, and the guy, so much the gentleman, wants to take us all to lunch. His idea of a gentlemanly lunch is Pizza Hut. Now the girl I am with, of course, wants to talk to her friend and hear about her meeting with internet guy, so, of course, being a gentleman, we go. And, internet guy, the gentleman he is, buys us all pizza. After a while I hit the toilet, return, and find the two girls talking, internet guy nowhere to be seen. He's off running some errand, I'm told. We wait. And wait. An hour goes by, and then internet guys friend, also too much a gentleman, turns up, with a suitcase. The suitcase of Natasha Pink Hairs best friend. It turns out internet guy didn't like Natasha Pink Hairs friend, and was ever so gentlemanly letting her know she could stay somewhere else, via a proxy of course, since real gentleman don't dump girls in person in Petersburg. And so, now at the table, the three of us are all quiet, not wanting to say anything, because in such a situation anything spoken would make it worse. Even coughing could make it worse. Eye contact. You get the picture? Being a gentleman, however, once the silence becomes maddening, I suggest we go to a cafe and have a drink. Or 20.
Now, since, even with the handcuffs, I'm obviously too much the gentleman, you already know what happened after we finished our drinks.
Rules of Petersburg.
Rule 10: Never go to Pizza Hut.
Stravinsky
09-24-14, 01:06
Hey, it's all Greek to me (so to speak).
Now, since, even with the handcuffs, I'm obviously too much the gentleman, you already know what happened after we finished our drinks.I'm guessing you weren't balls-deep in her шоколадный глаз (chocolate eye)! Так жалко (so sad)
Thanks for the report about your week with Natasha Pink Hairs. Seems a little pricey: $1,000 USD cash, plus gifts, plus bus/train fare, plus, plus... Боже мой (my God) forget about TJ, I could fly to Vegas for the weekend with all that.
At least you got some free pizza. :)
I'm guessing you paid for the pizza and the drinks.
Rules of Petersburg.
Rule 11: Remember Russian girls can spot a walking wallet a mile away.
For someone who has been openly critical of the standard of girls other members have slept with, your girls really aren't very hot. If you had paid $1500 for the week could you have got a 6? If a guy left Natasha's friend in a restaurant and you haven't posted a picture of her she must be even worse than Natasha.
Rules of Petersburg.
Rule 12: Only kick other members if you can walk-the-walk.
Stav. Thank you for describing how to post in Cyrillic. I will in future use this if I post in Russian. I do tend to try not to post in Russian though as I think certain members use it to try and look more intelligent than they really are.
Now, since, even with the handcuffs, I'm obviously too much the gentleman, you already know what happened after we finished our drinks.
Rules of Petersburg.
Rule 10: Never go to Pizza Hut.
Dear Readers;.
Since I can tell you really, really, really, really want to see what Natasha Pinks friend looks like (and you asked so very very nicely, just like true gentlemen!
Addendum: The alleged Southern Capital has proposed banning Skype phone calls in Russia.
Stravinsky
09-24-14, 18:14
Very nice, can't imagine why the internet gentleman would have left her behind. Does she have an obnoxious personality? Did she demand Anchovies and Pepperoni?
I'm assuming that since you were able to talk her out of her clothes for the photo, that you were also able to talk her into bed. Was this a 2-for-1 deal?
BTW--Why does Natasha Pink Hairs not have any, you know... pink hairs?
Does she have an obnoxious personality? Did she demand Anchovies and Pepperoni?
Now I know what you are all thinking, dear readers: why would a Russian internet guy boot out a solid "5. " Pink hairs friend is a solid "5. " She would easily be a "6" if she had more leg. Or worked out a bit and rounded her backside. So a solid "5. ".
But now I am compelled to include a rule as a warning, before continuing:
Rules of Petersburg:
Rule 11: In Petersburg, when a guy mentions he's into metal, he may or may not be referring to music.
Please keep in mind, my Russian is poor, very poor, and while I can chat a bit with friends and colleagues, participate in the endless jokes about the alleged Southern Capital, and more or less "get to and from the toilet," Pink Hairs friends explanation (she speaks no English) as to why internet guy had his bro bring her suitcase to Pizza Hut was in Russian and with words and expressions I had never heard before (and, frankly, never want to hear again). And this conversation occurred after drinks. A lot of drinks. Drinks at a cafe. Drinks continuing at the apartment I rented. Wine. Shots of tequila. JD. It even reached the point where we had to call a "private" source and have more alcohol delivered to us via a guy with bottles of duty free bought alcohol in the trunk of his car (you can't buy hard booze in Russia after 11 pm or some such). So I'll repeat what I understand Pink's friend was saying, but, ya know, I might have missed or messed up some of the details. And she was very drunk the night before when she was with Internet Guy, and she wasn't sure if everything happened or was said or might have been what she was thinking at the time. But the climax, pun intended, will have to wait for when next we meet, dear readers.
To be cont, but only if you really, really, really, really want to know.
Teaser: metal and either oral or vaginal sex, I'm still not clear on the orifice, a marijuana crop, shots of some god awful liquor like drink from Internet Guys rural home, laughter, a lot of laughter, hysterical laughter, and three exclamations that, as best as I can manage, translate as "Wait, help me look on the floor, I think I lost a filling! And "Fuck no! That isn't going inside of me even if hell freezes over" and finally something having to do with Internet Guys mother and which species she belonged to (and well, in Russia, that's a line you don't want to cross).
BlackSmith9701
11-29-14, 19:04
Hello everyone!
New guy here, just wanted to say I was going to St. Petersburg again in the coming month and I wanted to ask if anybody had any advice on where to get girls without getting robbed (literally or figuratively). Also, what decent 5-star hotel should I stay at so as to not run into any trouble with the hotel when I bring over a girl (girl-friendly hotel)? Any advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks
George 6969
12-01-14, 22:12
I am travelling more to Moscow than St. Peter, so I would need some recent information. In the old time I was going to Tribunal and Mahgrib Disco.
On my last visit I was running around Nevsky and go home alone, because both bars had been closed.
Where are the places in St. Peter like for Nigthflight in Moscow??
I have scrolled to all the actual reports, but I have found nothing. I don t like escort service or brothels.
I will stay in St. Peter on Monday and Tuesday, not on the weekend.
Thank you for your help.
"Evgenia" is looking for a sponsor. A couple of photos below. This is not an endorsement. I've never met her. I corresponded with her, received some photos from her, but when she gave me her "condition" for the initial meeting I passed: 400 E for the first meeting (all night), classic and oral. If anyone wants to try their hand with her message me and I'll send you her contact details.
It bears repeating: I have not met her.
And on the sideshow of a sideshow that is Putin's Russia, a new immigration form was handed out on the plane to StPb (from Amsterdam). No one, however, accepted the form at immigration, or anywhere else for that matter.
And be forewarned of a price hike: metro tokens will be going up 1 Jan by almost 11%! From 28 rubles to 31 rubles. Moscow is announcing 10% inflation by Jan 1, the ruble has lost approximately 50% of its value in the last year, AND metro tokens are going up: Public transportation is not a mirror held up to society, but a hammer with which to shape it!
Here's another StPb girl I've negotiated with, but have not met because of economics.
400 $ for a meeting (not all night). Classic, oral (uncovered), anal.
She also offered to have sex with two (males) for 700 $.
Worth repeating: I have not met her (these are photos she sent me).
Stravinsky
12-29-14, 19:44
Public transportation is not a mirror held up to society, but a hammer with which to shape it!пролетарии всех стран... (workers of the world)
Where do you find these women online? Is it VK? Mamba?
The blonde is a hefty li'l heifer. Does she charge by the pound, I wonder?
OK, so it's $0.528379 USD to ride the metro in Russia. It's still a bargain, compared to $2.75 for a single ride on the NYC subway. Of course, in NYC, you can catch a subway train at 03:00 and still have time to make it in to work the next morning.
I wonder, if I paid Evgenia 400 Euro for the night, do you think she would ride the Metro with me? I would be willing to pay, of course. :)
с наступающим новым годом (with the coming New Year)
I have a few more photos of the blonde in which she does not look as willowy challenged. And I did impolitely ask her about, what appeared to me, to be photos showing her with ample thighs and an amble ass, and she assured me the photos didn't show her true figure and in fact she'd worked as a model and had been a dancer (and yes, it did occur to me to ask if she meant "large sizes model," but I didn't ask, since her price was to high for me regardless of how she looked).
Again, I didn't meet her and just as photos can sometimes show girls to be more attractive than they are, the opposite is also true.
Else. Been in StPb two weeks now. The going rate for girls on Mamba that use the local currency is still around 6000 rubles, give or take, with a top girl you find on Mamba, for example, asking 15 k rubles or 20 k rubles. So the prices are the same, as I recall, but the exchange rate is much better.
And it may be a sign of the times, or it may just be the luck of the draw, but I have found Mamba girls, for example, much more aggressive this trip. I have had more answer me and the couple I've met have written me afterwards asking for additional meetings and a couple I negotiated with writing me and asking when we will meet. It might be the time of the year and it might be the economic problems and it might be both, or it might be just luck of the draw. Time will tell. The ruble is on a downward course again today, back up above 58 (dollar) at the moment.
Stravinsky
12-30-14, 06:49
Been in StPb two weeks now. I envy you, meeting the New Year along the banks of the Neva. Take some pictures and let us see what it looks like.
Так уносились мы мечтой
К началу жизни молодой.
So carried away are we by a dream
To the beginning of young life.
Dear all,
I have trouble deciding whether to go have fun in Manila or St. Petersburg. Just as a background, I like young (18-25) slim girls, fresh face, bubbly personality, total GFE (prefer non-pros or freebies that don't ask for donation, but may hope for one). Here are the pros and cons, as I see them:
Manila: PROS. Exotic warm place, very cheap girls, plenty non-pro GFEs (BIG plus in my book), speak English, often just happy to be treated nicely and stay with the foreigner. Great place to try an authentic girlfriend experience, without the crude P2 P component. Finally, one can find freebies on free dating sights. On these sites, you can chat the girls up and pretty much agree that she'll stay with you at your hotel when you come. They expect it. CONS: long and expensive flight.
St. Petersburg: PROS. Gorgeous slavic girls, long thin legs, beautiful city, museums. CONS. Cold, girls are expensive, most (if not all) are crude P2 P proposition.
I suspect that there isn't a way to secure dates with St. Petersburg girls in the same way one can with Manila girls. Mamba, so I hear, is P4P mostly. I guess that if Manila-style dates would be possible to arrange from afar (I can manage in Russian somehow), I would have ventured into Russia, in spite of the cold and high girl prices.
Any feedback from the esteemed members here will be greatly appreciated. Ciao!
Aibolit
Dear all,
I have trouble deciding whether to go have fun in Manila or St. Petersburg. Just as a background, I like young (18-25) slim girls, fresh face, bubbly personality, total GFE (prefer non-pros or freebies that don't ask for donation, but may hope for one). Here are the pros and cons, as I see them:
Manila: PROS. Exotic warm place, very cheap girls, plenty non-pro GFEs (BIG plus in my book), speak English, often just happy to be treated nicely and stay with the foreigner. Great place to try an authentic girlfriend experience, without the crude P2 P component. Finally, one can find freebies on free dating sights. On these sites, you can chat the girls up and pretty much agree that she'll stay with you at your hotel when you come. They expect it. CONS: long and expensive flight.
St. Petersburg: PROS. Gorgeous slavic girls, long thin legs, beautiful city, museums. CONS. Cold, girls are expensive, most (if not all) are crude P2 P proposition.
I suspect that there isn't a way to secure dates with St. Petersburg girls in the same way one can with Manila girls. Mamba, so I hear, is P4 P mostly. I guess that if Manila-style dates would be possible to arrange from afar (I can manage in Russian somehow), I would have ventured into Russia, in spite of the cold and high girl prices.
Any feedback from the esteemed members here will be greatly appreciated. Ciao! Aibolit.Quite a dilemma eh?
Maybe your decision will just fall on what you are more horny for this season. I agree, long pair a legs do well for me, but maybe you will chance at finding that rare pair in manilla.
пролетарии всех стран... (workers of the world)
Where do you find these women online? Is it VK? Mamba?
The blonde is a hefty li'l heifer. Does she charge by the pound, I wonder?
OK, so it's $0.528379 USD to ride the metro in Russia. It's still a bargain, compared to $2.75 for a single ride on the NYC subway. Of course, in NYC, you can catch a subway train at 03:00 and still have time to make it in to work the next morning.
I wonder, if I paid Evgenia 400 Euro for the night, do you think she would ride the Metro with me? I would be willing to pay, of course. :)
с наступающим новым годом (with the coming New Year)'does she charge bt the pound'.
LOL.
Meany, I noticed her thick thighs before scrolling to your commemt. Glad it wasnt just me who saw some heft but you said it not I heh.
Wow. I recognise this 'girl' - I found a picture of her from another angle. I think it may explain why she was left in the pizza restaurant.Lina cavalli? Can't read the script much to see the name is she famous?, her bod aint bad lookin and a model like face I'd say, quite astiffy though.
Just returned home (USA) after a month of travels that included Russia (mostly Petersburg, but also, unfortunately, that arm-pit of a city that claims to be the southern capital). Attached are some photos of a few of the Russian girls I met. Donatives were the same as recent visits for 1-2 hours and, if in rubles, were much cheaper in dollars given the sorrows of the ruble recently. I paid between 6000 - 10000 rubles for 1-2 hour meetings and 8000 for all night with one girl I've met many times previously, though I found that after meeting one 10000 ruble girl for the first time (1-2 hours) she agreed to 8000 + taxi fare for a second meeting. Must be my price reducing charm. I did fly one girl to Petersburg from another city in a different, more expensive, arrangement. And if I enjoyed the time spent with a girl I did give her more than the agreed price.
Just an impression, but I think that if you visit Russia, meet a girl for the first time, and things go well, and you make it clear you'd like to meet her again, perhaps even meet a few times more, you can easily negotiate lower prices. It's certainly always been that way with the right girls, but, given the current economic doldrums I think there's a lot more incentive for girls, even the semi-pros who were previously "this isn't a negotiation, pay my price or not" girls, to try and have regulars rather than rely on meeting new guys every day or week or whatever, particularly since average Russian guys aren't going to pay more. It occurred to me to add this digression because I can't remember ever having so many girls call or SMS me before, after a initial meeting, inquiring about when we could meet again or having so many girls I'd contacted, but not met yet, pester me with calls and messages asking when we were going to meet.
I also think there's an odd dynamic in play right now in Russia, involving a lot of anger at the West, and the US in particular. This may only get worse.
Stravinsky
01-14-15, 19:11
Тото, у меня чувство, что мы больше не в Канзасе! (Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.)
Nice pix, the popa on the blonde is choice!
Still waiting to see your новогодны фотки (New Year's photos)
It occurred to me to add this digression because I can't remember ever having so many girls call or SMS me before, after a initial meeting, inquiring about when we could meet again or having so many girls I'd contacted, but not met yet, pester me with calls and messages asking when we were going to meet.How are you meeting the girls; mamba? VK? Odnoklassniki?
I also think there's an odd dynamic in play right now in Russia, involving a lot of anger at the West, and the US in particular. This may only get worse.
Interesting... the intel I have says exactly the opposite. But then, that's mainly from Moscow. It could just be a matter of perspective; if you spend your days living in a quaint little местечко on the banks of the Neva, your outlook on life is bound to be more provincial and parochial. :)
Dorogie sootechestvenniki! Rad soobshhit' vam, chto ja tol'ko chto podpisal dokument, kotoryj navsegda stavit Rossiju vne zakona. Bombardirovka nachnetsja cherez pjat' minut.
Stravinsky
01-20-15, 20:23
Дорогие соотечественники! (Dear compatriots!) Nice!
The daylight photos were probably taken around noon, I'm guessing.
Is this the same blondinka with the choice popa?
KeepItBurnin
01-21-15, 17:16
Hi guys. Any website I can fully trust? I've been in Budapest last summer and spent 200 euros on 2 fake girls. That was a pity. Until I found a good website where I got today satisfaction there. Anything in Moscow and St Petersburg? Will be there in a week.
Nice!
The daylight photos were probably taken around noon, I'm guessing.
Is this the same blondinka with the choice popa?Different girl.
Hi guys. Any website I can fully trust? I've been in Budapest last summer and spent 200 euros on 2 fake girls. That was a pity. Until I found a good website where I got today satisfaction there. Anything in Moscow and St Petersburg? Will be there in a week.Hello. I offer you to visit I-spa saloon. It is erotic massage saloon, all photos on site are REAL, just as interior photos. Site I-Spa. Su.
To check girls visit http://i-spa.su/girls.
Hello. I offer you to visit I-spa saloon. It is erotic massage saloon, all photos on site are REAL, just as interior photos. Site I-Spa. Su.
To check girls visit http://i-spa.su/girls.So are these prices to rubles? No up charge for foreigners?
PekkaTampere
02-20-15, 13:24
I am from Finland and want to say something about my very short time in Russia.
I was recently in St. Petersburg with an old American friend. After vising a local strip-club we went for a drink in a bar known to have WGs.
We were just chilling and enjoying our drink when to girls came after a small eye contact from the distance. We started to talk to them but only one spoke English.
(I tried my best with my bad Russian). The blondika who didn't speak English and was the best looking said in Russian "she does not like Americans" and started to become aggressive.
I simply didn't get what is going on. The brunetki started to excuse for her strange behavior saying that she has relatives in Donbass etc. But the mood was already gone.
Very unpleasant experience. In the next bar he started to claim to be an Australian. What is wrong with this bizarre world?
So are these prices to rubles? No up charge for foreigners?In USD standart programm is about 60 $ or 55 euro. This programm contains 30 minutes of classic massage and 30 minutes of eriotic massage. Also we have cheap "test" programm, it contains 30 minutes of tea ceremony and 30 minutes of erotic massage and costs about 40 $ or 35 euros.
I am from Finland and want to say something about my very short time in Russia.
I was recently in St. Petersburg with an old American friend. After vising a local strip-club we went for a drink in a bar known to have WGs.
We were just chilling and enjoying our drink when to girls came after a small eye contact from the distance. We started to talk to them but only one spoke English.
(I tried my best with my bad Russian). The blondika who didn't speak English and was the best looking said in Russian "she does not like Americans" and started to become aggressive.
I simply didn't get what is going on. The brunetki started to excuse for her strange behavior saying that she has relatives in Donbass etc. But the mood was already gone.
Very unpleasant experience. In the next bar he started to claim to be an Australian. What is wrong with this bizarre world?Actually it is weird. In news on tv our goverment "helping us to see" that everything what happend was provoked by americans. It explains their mood a bit, but "not stupidest" of us (Russians) understands that all of this military accidents do not depends of a ordinary americans.
In USD standart programm is about 60 $ or 55 euro. This programm contains 30 minutes of classic massage and 30 minutes of eriotic massage. Also we have cheap "test" programm, it contains 30 minutes of tea ceremony and 30 minutes of erotic massage and costs about 40 $ or 35 euros.So these prices are for handjobs and nibbling but not blowjobs or sex? At least that is the understanding I'm getting from your website.
So these prices are for handjobs and nibbling but not blowjobs or sex? At least that is the understanding I'm getting from your website.Almost. It's not usual handjob. For this money you will have 30 minutes of classic massage and 30 minutes of erotic massage. If with classic everything is clear, then I should say more about erotic part. Erotic massage is whole program with a lot of movements. First of all girl asks you to lay on your back and than she will start to slide on your body by her ass, breast and arms. When you will be "ready" to proceed she starts imitation part. Imitation of sex. In imitation there is a lot of positions, but it is better than sex. Some times (most often with tourists) our guests are becoming scared. They thinking that it is real sex without a condom. In imitations our girl using everything, except their mouth and vagina. It is really great thing. Feels and looks like real sex with beauty girl, real pleasure and absolutely safe because of absence of "contact"!
I like this kind of relax much more than prostitution. What prostitution is? Girl making you "hard" by blow job (your dick will be hard and no matter do you want this girl or not), than you put your dick in girl, shaking a little and that's it. Feels like went out of water closet: feels unloaded, but no emotion.
In massage everything is a little different. After pretty good relax (classic part) you already "closer" to girl and in first part of erotic massage you already want this girl. First part of erotic is some kind of teasing. And at the end you will get what you already desiring! Incredible feelings! When you will leave this place. It feels like you are younger for few years) Amazing thing. Ant that is simplest program. Also there is a programs in hydro massage pool, sauna, massages with warm stones. We have nuru massage. Very interesting thing: in erotic part girl uses nuru gel instead of coconut oil. Nuru gel have a toning effect. During imitation part it is amazing feelings "there"! It is hot and passionate, but also fresh coolness the same time. Very weird and cool thing.
Check it, you will not be disappointed, I promise).
Dear all,
I have trouble deciding whether to go have fun in Manila or St. Petersburg. Just as a background, I like young (18-25) slim girls, fresh face, bubbly personality, total GFE (prefer non-pros or freebies that don't ask for donation, but may hope for one). Here are the pros and cons, as I see them:
Manila: PROS. Exotic warm place, very cheap girls, plenty non-pro GFEs (BIG plus in my book), speak English, often just happy to be treated nicely and stay with the foreigner. Great place to try an authentic girlfriend experience, without the crude P2 P component. Finally, one can find freebies on free dating sights. On these sites, you can chat the girls up and pretty much agree that she'll stay with you at your hotel when you come. They expect it. CONS: long and expensive flight.
St. Petersburg: PROS. Gorgeous slavic girls, long thin legs, beautiful city, museums. CONS. Cold, girls are expensive, most (if not all) are crude P2 P proposition....
AibolitI can only say that I agree with your analysis, I think it is spot on. That is not so helpful, because it means I am not sure what to recommend. It depends on what you want. Personally I would go for Philippines. Because in addition to what you note, I like short girls and ultra-soft, sweet tasting Asian pussy.
Dear all,
I have trouble deciding whether to go have fun in Manila or St. Petersburg. Just as a background, I like young (18-25) slim girls, fresh face, bubbly personality, total GFE (prefer non-pros or freebies that don't ask for donation, but may hope for one). Here are the pros and cons, as I see them:
Manila: PROS. Exotic warm place, very cheap girls, plenty non-pro GFEs (BIG plus in my book), speak English, often just happy to be treated nicely and stay with the foreigner. Great place to try an authentic girlfriend experience, without the crude P2 P component. Finally, one can find freebies on free dating sights. On these sites, you can chat the girls up and pretty much agree that she'll stay with you at your hotel when you come. They expect it. CONS: long and expensive flight.
St. Petersburg: PROS. Gorgeous slavic girls, long thin legs, beautiful city, museums. CONS. Cold, girls are expensive, most (if not all) are crude P2 P proposition.
I suspect that there isn't a way to secure dates with St. Petersburg girls in the same way one can with Manila girls. Mamba, so I hear, is P4P mostly. I guess that if Manila-style dates would be possible to arrange from afar (I can manage in Russian somehow), I would have ventured into Russia, in spite of the cold and high girl prices.
Any feedback from the esteemed members here will be greatly appreciated. Ciao!
AibolitSt. Pete offers cheap p4 p options but for freebies I think not easy. 5 times harder than Manila especially if you don't have a European look. Also the city is small. Not as funny as Manila but it is definitely more safe than Manila.
I would choose Manila. But you can think about Vladivostok.
I'm wondering, is there anyone who can offer more info on xxxmassage. Ru? It was recommended as top-notch service in September, and the site looks quite promising; ofc anyone can upload wonderful pic but I definitely like that the booking system is rather simple and logical (you can book via the operator if he / she is online or via text. They provide sample messages and as you can send them in English I'm sure its the same operator who handles them) and that they provide a detailed info on how to reach them by metro or taxi. The same applies to the prices (all in ruble). The girls look stunning, and that one review endorses the site, but would appreciate more info on the place.
Putologist
03-10-15, 15:24
Any feedback from the esteemed members here will be greatly appreciated. Ciao!
Hi Aibolit.
I've been in both cities myself and well, I can agree with you on that comparison.
Plus, in general if I have to choose between a too hot place and a too cold place (I am talking about weather here, lets not get confused).
I would choose the warmer option. Besides the temperature, both are close to water and thus quite humid sometimes, which makes the winter in Peter very unpleasant IMO.
DwayneJohnson
03-11-15, 22:22
I'm wondering, is there anyone who can offer more info on xxxmassage. Ru? It was recommended as top-notch service in September, and the site looks quite promising; ofc anyone can upload wonderful pic but I definitely like that the booking system is rather simple and logical (you can book via the operator if he / she is online or via text. They provide sample messages and as you can send them in English I'm sure its the same operator who handles them) and that they provide a detailed info on how to reach them by metro or taxi. The same applies to the prices (all in ruble). The girls look stunning, and that one review endorses the site, but would appreciate more info on the place.I have sent an PM to person who posted this review. Anyway It looks to be only HJ, CBJ type of place. I am spoiled monger because of Thailand trips so was looking for Full Service massage places.
St. Pete offers cheap p4 p options but for freebies I think not easy. 5 times harder than Manila especially if you don't have a European look. Also the city is small. Not as funny as Manila but it is definitely more safe than Manila.
I would choose Manila. But you can think about Vladivostok.What about Vladivostok, bro? Is it easier to get girls there?
Because I can't find Vladivsotok in this forum.
Thank you.
I have two questions:
1. Is the reduced value of rouble is bringing down costs of girls in Petersburg?
2. Is also a bit less demand from local mongers due to the decline of the economy?
As far as I can see from sites like rusdosug prices seem to be the same in roubles as they were 1 and 2 years ago, and are thus significantly lower in USD and to some extent EUR. Replies are much appreciated.
I have sent an PM to person who posted this review. Anyway It looks to be only HJ, CBJ type of place. I am spoiled monger because of Thailand trips so was looking for Full Service massage places.I've visited twice the XM place on Bolshaya Pushkarskaya 42, and both times was very happy. I was staying at the Vvedenskiy Hotel and it's 5 minutes walk from there.
Both times I've got BBBJ and CIM for a small extra with 2 different girls, so this seams to be on the menu of all girls. But they don't seam to provide full service.
The massage itself was OK, though not professional (and I wouldn't expect that in such a place). The girls I've seen were all very nice, no one a 9 or 10, but most 6-8 and all young.
The place is clean and the atmosphere is very relaxed. Overall a very good experience and I plan to visit them again on the next trip.
Jonathan988
03-22-15, 13:52
Someone knows any good trustable independent escorts here in Saint Petersburg?
Johnny Drama
03-23-15, 09:00
Someone knows any good trustable independent escorts here in Saint Petersburg?I landed yesterday afternoon and so far my experience is very similar to Moscow and Budapest. If you don't speak the language, it's pretty much impossible to get an independent off one of the reputable site to respond to you. Same goes all the major Salons here as they don't speak english. Since I don't have a guide here like I did for girls in Budapest, I'll have the concierge arrange a car to one of the salons, or possibly test his network of local working girls for a visit to my room. If anyone has local contacts I would be incredibly grateful.
Best.
Drama.
I have two questions:
1. Is the reduced value of rouble is bringing down costs of girls in Petersburg?
2. Is also a bit less demand from local mongers due to the decline of the economy?
As far as I can see from sites like rusdosug prices seem to be the same in roubles as they were 1 and 2 years ago, and are thus significantly lower in USD and to some extent EUR. Replies are much appreciated.Answering:
1. Yes it is. Rouble costs less, but prices the same (not everywhere).
2. Seems like the same.
If you will pay in USD or EUR, it will be cheaper twice. Before rouble falls it costs 29-30 rur /1 dollar. Now it is 60-66 rur /1 dollar.
Want to ask you one thing.
We have one guy (he is a guide) who pretty often brings a tourists to us to massage. I spent a lot of time when was looking for same guides and found nothing.
Don't you know where I can find somebody like him? Tourists finding them somehow.
Putologist
03-29-15, 22:39
Want to ask you one thing.
We have one guy (he is a guide) who pretty often brings a tourists to us to massage. I spent a lot of time when was looking for same guides and found nothing.
Don't you know where I can find somebody like him? Tourists finding them somehow.Interesting. Did he do it for free or za platu?
I think your tourists should start reading forums like this one here, then they don't need a guide to begin with.
Of course "za plata" But same time it is better to pay some more money and come in trusted place with one of the best service instead of visiting cheap rat hole. I think you will agree. It is reasonable.
Putologist
03-30-15, 22:47
Of course "za plata" But same time it is better to pay some more money and come in trusted place with one of the best service instead of visiting cheap rat hole. I think you will agree. It is reasonable.Sure, it sounds reasonable, specially if the tourist doesn't know the local scene and the ruski iesik.
DwayneJohnson
04-06-15, 13:55
Number of P4 P available in the city is astonishingly high. I don't give a damn about freebies and one girl from a bar which I thought was a freebie turned out to be pro after reaching hotel. I was on a very short trip for one night so used rusdosug escort earlier in the evening which was good value for money (6000 Rubles- all inclusive for 2 HR). I have an impression from these few encounters that almost every nice girl working in restaurant to university student are available for a price. During daytime I did lot of touristy things like visiting Church, Museum and Shopping etc.
Incredibly beautiful place with equally beautiful girls and friendly people (I found it exactly opposite of media propaganda). I will stay for at least few weeks next time.
Dear all,
I have trouble deciding whether to go have fun in Manila or St. Petersburg.
AibolitI've been to the Philippines (Manila), Jakarta, Vietnam, Thailand, and Cambodia this year. For some reason I always thought Manila would be great. I've never seen so many unattractive girls in Manila compared to anywhere in Asia. Only decent looking girls are the working girls. You could walk miles in a mall and not see one attractive girl. It's also ugly dirty sprawling place and not very safe, I would never go back. P4 P is also not cheap. Only advantage is they all speak good English and love American fast food, hence love Americans. If you must experience the Philippines I hear Cebu is better. If you are after Asian girls nothing in my view beats the variety quality and quantity of Thailand.
SPB girls are gorgeous Russian European many model looking girls with easy access from Europe, don't expect it to be Asia-easy and Asia-cheap.
Let us know how it goes.
I've been to the Philippines (Manila), Jakarta, Vietnam, Thailand, and Cambodia this year. For some reason I always thought Manila would be great. I've never seen so many unattractive girls in Manila compared to anywhere in Asia. Only decent looking girls are the working girls. You could walk miles in a mall and not see one attractive girl. It's also ugly dirty sprawling place and not very safe, I would never go back. P4 P is also not cheap. Only advantage is they all speak good English and love American fast food, hence love Americans. If you must experience the Philippines I hear Cebu is better. If you are after Asian girls nothing in my view beats the variety quality and quantity of Thailand.
SPB girls are gorgeous Russian European many model looking girls with easy access from Europe, don't expect it to be Asia-easy and Asia-cheap.
Let us know how it goes.No doubt about it the SPB girls are gorgeous but I have also see some lovely Filipinas in Manila. As with everything there are different opinions on beauty and YMMV with experiences.
No doubt about it the SPB girls are gorgeous but I have also see some lovely Filipinas in Manila. As with everything there are different opinions on beauty and YMMV with experiences.Don't get me wrong, and I didn't mean to offend anyone's taste or preference, some Phillipinas are absolutely gorgeous creatures and added bonus there is no communication problem, and it's easy to take one to one of many beaches.
HarryDubois
05-12-15, 23:52
They look incredible.
http://spb.prostitutki.org/
http://spb.devochkicz.com/
http://www.rusprostitute.com/
http://spb.otsos.cz/
https://vipsoski.com/index/index/b/4-5/p/1
But are they most likely real or fake?
They look incredible.
http://spb.prostitutki.org/
http://spb.devochkicz.com/
http://www.rusprostitute.com/
http://spb.otsos.cz/
https://vipsoski.com/index/index/b/4-5/p/1
But are they most likely real or fake?50/50 - some of them are real, but a lot of them. Fake.
If you want exactly sex, I can recommend you Karamelki. Org and markizaspb. Org. Photos 100% real.
HarryDubois
05-13-15, 21:20
Is that the case? Is it due to the large number of students there, the rampant poverty which makes them turn to prostitution? What is it?
SmilySmartie
05-13-15, 23:03
Checked in the hotel, checked rusdosug, found a looker, 1,60 m, 45 kg, beautiful abs and sporty poses, 20 why o, my kinda package, called around 1 pm, operator said she was available at 2, asked for outcall rates, 7500 Rubel for 3 h.
Driver dropped her off, couldn't believe my eyes, what a love angel he relinquished, girl next door look, Tatarka, that beautiful Prussian Eurasian face, but slender, muscled and well proportioned, so simple, a T-shirt (no bra), very tight jeans, a slip, a pair of real cute socks, new sneakers, just an adorable sweet bird of youth with a nice smile on her face. No make up. Incredible youngish fuck.
I told the operator I would have a rose on me. She liked it. At the reception another very doable girl, but of course off limits. Reception girl speaks English – ticket to a safe job. My sex toy speaks no word of English. Character and body make up for it. But it is these kinds of barriers to achievement that explain why such hotties are available in such quantity and quality in Russia.
When I passed with my sex-toy-to-be, the reception girl immediately understood. Others call it walk of shame – I relish the moment. The reception girl is a little taken aback, the security nods a knowing nod, privilege of the businessman, he thinks, let him have his will with her.
In the room, she takes a long shower. Says she is 21, looks like 16, I am sure she told the truth. Comes to me in white fishnets and a slip, makes out. DFK on the menu.
I have her undress me in front of the mirror, lots of hugs and looks. Take my shower. On the bed. Ask her not to take her hands off my dick for the rest of the session. She smiles. Ask her to keep her legs spread. She obliges, smiles. Gets me hard by stroking and French kissing, wants to put on a condom. I say BBBJ, she says 1500 Rubel if you come in my mouth, I say of course I will come in your mouth, darling. Follows a long soft delicate, wet blow job. She puts my hand on the back of her head. I try to gag her – impossible – girlie has skills. She proposes me to stand. Sucks me on her knees. Looks at me ever so sweetly. I have one hand on the back of her head, one hand on her throat and chin, face fuck her tenderly but also violently, my strong hands have her head in their vise, quick motions, penetration to the hilt. She sweats and enjoys. Her eyelashes show the effort and the collisions.
Place her on the bed. Finger in vagina, deep, G spot, other hand working the Venus mount. She really really really enjoys. Finally asks in delusionary state for something in her mouth, insert two fingers while the other hand continues working her vag, breath quickens, tongue flicking around the fingers, she sucks violently, she comes.
I ask her where she has that body from. She says swimming. 3 times a week. I say cool. She is a student, works by the side. Loves her job, very interesting she says, selling stuff in the fashion boutique is boring. Started her second income at age 17. I motion her to another BBBJ, ask her to let me CIF. She is fine with it. Deep throats me while lying on my back, member skyward. Push her below, tell her to keep her face near the erect dick and her hand on the dick. Sweet ball licking, beautiful sight when she engulfs the cock with her mouth from time to time.
I get the mirror from the wall, ask her if she is fine with it. She says she loves it. From now on double view casting.
I push her further South – she understands. Tongue darts slowly into my anus. Incredible feeling, lose my breath. She motions her head and my legs for optimal tongue penetration of my hole. Eventually ask her to quicken the stroking of my dick, she moves her face over the glans, remarkable pop, lands in her face, she uses the penis to smear and paint it all over, all smiles. For well she should be – it is all natural. Honestly speaking, I do not understand my preoccupation with facials, but she looks incredibly cute with that sperm cake. After looking at her for a few minutes, her hand keeping my member in post orgasmic gliss, off to the shower.
Next comes relaxing, close our eyes. Then a fruit pie and a cup of tea. I got this great St Petersburg pie on Nevsky to have something nice for us. Afterwards more relax – I ask her to just close her eyes. I give her a prolonged foot massage, towels, soap, hot water and all. She is in heaven. Then move up half ways, cunnilingus. She tastes absolutely great. I would not consider myself an expert at it, but this creature below me is just made for love. Sure enough, after a few min or so, her breath quickens again, then calms down, 2 min later a hand descends on my arm, thank you darling. I am horny to get my reward, fuck her with a condom, several positions, but I really like to decorate her face again. After a 30 min BBBJ with extended anilingus, her face basically buried by my balls, I motion her to lick my balls and finish myself off with a very few strokes, pulsating into her very pretty face and hair. I get a 2nd or 3rd nice shot in her black shoulder long hair, cute to look at when the ballistics move the hair. She is all smiles, then shower.
More tea, 2,5 h up, I ask for another hand- and blowjob. She is happy to oblige, nice pop. In the final seconds she moves her face into position to serve as the sperm screen. Not bad the little youth bird. One hand on the anus, one hand on the balls, mouth around the member. Finally she strokes a little and my spice of life comes to the fore. Very cute.
Decided to meet again next day. This time not via the operator but directly. Face 7, Body 9, Attitude 10. Youth multiplier 10. Incredible. Best sex of a lifetime, had some good sex in it, got to say, but this was in the tops.
MarioLondon
05-14-15, 03:05
checked rusdosug, found a looker, 1,60 m, 45 kg, beautiful abs and sporty poses, 20 She sounds perfect, my kinda girl. Could you share details?
I already posted a similar post in the Moscow threat but here is the one for SP. My trip to Russia is finally coming together and I can't be more excited about it! Reports of my stay will be due once I arrive and settle in Moscow and SP. I am looking for freebie play only and was hoping to get some opinion on what the best course of stay is in SP. Would you recommend staying at a hotel or an apartment in the SP area? The hotel prices are not outrageous so unless I am missing on a big factor of renting apartment, I could just take the more convenient route of booking a hotel room. Also are reputable hotels in general girl friendly in the sense that if I bring a regular girl, do I have to register them with the front desk or something?
Checked in the hotel, checked rusdosug, found a looker, 1,60 m, 45 kg, beautiful abs and sporty poses, 20 why o, my kinda package, called around 1 pm, operator said she was available at 2, asked for outcall rates, 7500 Rubel for 3 h.
...
Decided to meet again next day. This time not via the operator but directly. Face 7, Body 9, Attitude 10. Youth multiplier 10. Incredible. Best sex of a lifetime, had some good sex in it, got to say, but this was in the tops.Aaaarrrrggghhh! Damnit!! I have bald spot on my head from ripping my hair out of sheer jealousy! Bless your heart man, now I can't wait until my trip. I land in Moscow, but now I am thinking to find a way to St Pete. Not a lot of reports like your on the Moscow side. I'm not a big guy, I'm only 5'8" about 165 lbs, so I really do need a smaller girl, I can't accommodate the bigger ones. Its been at least 2009 since I've had the kind of quality sex that you speak of.
Why can't the usa be like this? Why does America have to be such a prison? I turn 41 yrs old this summer. F* my life.
SmilySmartie
05-16-15, 13:47
I already posted a similar post in the Moscow threat but here is the one for SP. My trip to Russia is finally coming together and I can't be more excited about it! Reports of my stay will be due once I arrive and settle in Moscow and SP. I am looking for freebie play only and was hoping to get some opinion on what the best course of stay is in SP. Would you recommend staying at a hotel or an apartment in the SP area? The hotel prices are not outrageous so unless I am missing on a big factor of renting apartment, I could just take the more convenient route of booking a hotel room. Also are reputable hotels in general girl friendly in the sense that if I bring a regular girl, do I have to register them with the front desk or something?Try Aster hotel Nevsky. Reception behind staircase. You can take your chicks upstairs discretely. Great location. Freebies. Fight and conquer, thence boy girl experience is at its best. Mutually satisfying. No black and white thinking. Give 11 roses to your girlfriend. Get a great blow job for the mutual satisfaction of loving adults. Give to freebies, in whatever form, even material support, and the sex gets better. If you speak Russian, try the apartments and salons. Type rusdosug unblock. Take feedback on the web seriously. Put cash in your pocket, leave credit card at home. Ask of the lady what you want and need. Chance is she is happy to provide. Get them off, they need it. Stick with safe practices, a mouth, a tongue and ten fingers can be such skilled tools at pleasure provision. Strip clubs I would avoid. Conceited dancers often poor at play.
SmilySmartie
05-16-15, 14:39
2nd session with my conquest was an all nighter, 6 pm to 10 am, I gave 16 000 Rubel. Begins with me participating in a work related teleconference. I sit in front of the laptop. Be o o o ring.
My 21 year princess girl undresses except a hoodie and her socks, rolls hoodie over her smallish firm tits, places mirror in front of me, unbuttons my pants and shirt, starts to caress my dick, which is at highest attention. For 30 min she keeps me near orgasmic levels. I slow her down not to decorate my laptop and papers with cum.
She insists I tell the colleagues on the line to take a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) break, implores me to take a shower so she can commence BBBJ. Well, I am used to taking orders, a few minutes later I am all clean, white bathroom robe, super cutie is kneeling between my legs, very busy hands and tongue, sweet looks.
I am rock hard and am able to gag her. Great throat sounds. I finish the telcon and suggest to move to the bathtub. She is happy, we lay in it for an hour or so. I keep my discipline and hard member, am more there to enjoy the love child's optics. That requires placing her on the bathtub rim, back against the tiled wall.
Me looking up between her widely spread legs, I rub her tits and lick her pussy deeply and rhythmically. As expected, her breath quickens, orgasm no 3. Lots of hugs, she sweats a great deal, merges in prolonged French kissing, dick in her hand, fully erect.
Still thinking what a beautiful pornographic sight she offers, I insist on continuing. 15 min later, orgasm no 4 for her. My tongue flicks to her anus, she brushes me off. The gal sensed the evolving attack on her anus and signals her reticence. Fine.
She wants to reciprocate and calm my excitement. Towel, dry up, on to bed. She binds her hair in two braids, which takes 5 years of her age. Wears the cute dotted socks, yet one more year must be subtracted from the visuals. Legal limit to penetration by an age peer in Amsterdam reached. Good enough for me. I am more than twice the little angel's age. The nice thing about Russians is, they do not care as long as you are desirable and, in our type of encounter, discrete.
Penetrate her pussy deeply with condom, nice intensive ride where I keep her passive, pummeled, overwhelmed, sweaty and rammed in the mattress. I like. She likes! Then off with the condom and on my back, for finale without condom in her mouth and face. She plays ostensibly with the braids, makes sure I get her youth into my brain.
Prolonged anilingus. My breath at 160. Finger insertion to my prostate, second hand on balls, throat engulfing the dick, great noises, a few minues of this until I give in, senseless to resist, I come in huge spurts in her mouth which she drools out. She gags nicely on the shots, all smiles and good temper. I enjoy dumping the spent dick in her throat again and again and again. And she relishes the salty thick milky laces on her beaming face.
Two repeats until 10 am, what can I say? Looks most sexily also when dressed or half dressed. I let her know the braids are standard from now on, new Russian law. She laughs and plays with her hands with them, looking at me smiling. Germans say 'Zopfchenficker' if I understood that right from a Teuton friend. We both came 5 times in those 2 encounters, and the number of hours where two quick flings would have gotten us off was?? Maybe 5? Not bad. She said the time of intercourse gets her to that level.
2nd session with my conquest was an all nighter, 6 pm to 10 am, I gave 16 000 Rubel. Begins with me participating in a work related teleconference. I sit in front of the laptop. Be o o o ring.
My 21 year princess girl undresses except a hoodie and her socks, rolls hoodie over her smallish firm tits, places mirror in front of me, unbuttons my pants and shirt, starts to caress my dick, which is at highest attention. For 30 min she keeps me near orgasmic levels. I slow her down not to decorate my laptop and papers with cum.
... until I give in, senseless to resist, I come in huge spurts in her mouth which she drools out. She gags nicely on the shots, all smiles and good temper. I enjoy dumping the spent dick in her throat again and again and again. And she relishes the salty thick milky laces on her beaming face.I guess not everybody is the oil and gas biz. Some of us are apparently professional writers. I just didn't think the literary arts paid that well or required travel. Somebody should tell this guy everything's going to be alright LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9L1eFMMenM
SmilySmartie
05-17-15, 05:32
Sorry if my report bored you. What is this obsession with Penthouse? In student days I looked at it, find the slim internet girls of today so much more desirable. And in student days, those little angels were around aplenty on campus. I have not borrowed any from that journal. I am a sparse contributor to this forum, and my contributions are entirely factual.
Thanks Philosophus both the response and the great report. Hotels are either all booked or pretty expensive in June! Anybody has a recommendation for a decent quality apartment in SP?
Sorry if my report bored you. What is this obsession with Penthouse? In student days I looked at it, find the slim internet girls of today so much more desirable. And in student days, those little angels were around aplenty on campus. I have not borrowed any from that journal. I am a sparse contributor to this forum, and my contributions are entirely factual.Not bored at all sir, I believe you completely. If you saw my previous posts you will see that I speak light heartedly. As I mentioned before, I too much prefer very small, very thin women.
So glad to see there are still places in the world where availability and expectations are not only met, but exceeded! Just to confirm, you said you found her on rusdosug?
SmilySmartie
05-18-15, 16:36
Not bored at all sir, I believe you completely. If you saw my previous posts you will see that I speak light heartedly. As I mentioned before, I too much prefer very small, very thin women.
So glad to see there are still places in the world where availability and expectations are not only met, but exceeded! Just to confirm, you said you found her on rusdosug?Yes, Rusdosug. Call the numbers. I found pictures more often than not match. Look at the feedback (in Russian). If the saloon replies to a negative comment, take it seriously. It means, the saloon is interested in a good reputation. It means, probably the girls in that saloon (Russians say e. G. "dom") and their photos are real. Try at 2 pm or so. More vacancies of lookers. Try in English if you speak no Russian. Often the dispatcher replies in English, even if it is a Russian dom. For myself: I really enjoy the hunt and am more for the freebie side. But people who know their ways less in St Petersburg must absolutely also have a plan be. And that can very well be to order an outcall girl in the afternoon for 2 h to your room. Then you can still go to the clubs, dance, sponsor a bottle of champagne (choose the cheap stuff 500 Roubel per bottle), sponsor some more, take your conquest home. Visiting apartments is also recommended. Many a good girl there, delighted to delight, young, decent or good looking. What they prize is privacy (there is another life in them at other hours of the day). What they prize is pleasure and respect for their limits, especially no A levels. There are plenty who turn 18 and head for the apartments because a new revenue stream opens up. And at 20, they may already have had enough of it and move on. Then there are those who somehow cannot bond with age peers, but sure do enjoy the sexual attention accorded to them by mid lifers, especially if the latter have maintained themselves and the former do not look like models. They still look really really cute, young age helps.
SmilySmartie
05-18-15, 16:45
Some fellows recommend them. Visuals before play. I can only say I have never had success in St Petersburg with them. Most of them have massage with happy ending, but principally, the dancers I met are stuck up due to their exterior appearance and they ruin any decent experience by senseless up selling. When you are in one of the hundreds of places, they ask you to buy an expensive drink for them, one third of the price being pocketed by them. Aplenty in this setting are girls and booze. Scarce are paying customers. Since I only drink tea when at play, the retard strip club lady starts to serve vodka for free, to entice me to spend more. As if 2 vodka after a half a liter of tea could do me any harm. If you agree for a private dance, they ask for another and another. Since they drink more than you and they are desperate, it really turns uncomfy. Thank you. Bye bye. Dance club or apartment (dom) or especially outcall in the afternoon. You get what you are there for. Fellows who disagree with me: Let us hear it.
SmilySmartie
05-18-15, 16:51
Names etc. I cannot share. Would not like my contributions to make it back to the princesses whose privacy must be protected. It actually turns me on when we walk at a discrete distance to one another over Nevski to find a Sushi diner. Let them live their healthy and sexually immensely satisfying double life. Let the youngest & prettiest talent needy of sponsoring come out and play. I also think the search is half the fun, and the disastrous experiences (at a loss of 100 EUR s piece) tremendously amplify the great experiences. Feel free to disagree.
Yes, rusdosug. Call the numbers. I found pictures more often than not match. Look at the feedback (in Russian). If the saloon replies to a negative comment, take it seriously. It means, the saloon is interested in a good reputation. It means, probably the girls in that saloon (Russians say e. G. "dom") and their photos are real. Try at 2 pm or so. More vacancies of lookers. Try in English if you speak no Russian. Often the dispatcher replies in English, even if it is a Russian dom. For myself: I really enjoy the hunt and am more for the freebie side. But people who know their ways less in St Petersburg must absolutely also have a plan be. And that can very well be to order an outcall girl in the afternoon for 2 h to your room. Then you can still go to the clubs, dance, sponsor a bottle of champagne (choose the cheap stuff 500 Roubel per bottle), sponsor some more, take your conquest home. Visiting apartments is also recommended. Many a good girl there, delighted to delight, young, decent or good looking. What they prize is privacy (there is another life in them at other hours of the day). What they prize is pleasure and respect for their limits, especially no A levels. There are plenty who turn 18 and head for the apartments because a new revenue stream opens up. And at 20, they may already have had enough of it and move on. Then there are those who somehow cannot bond with age peers, but sure do enjoy the sexual attention accorded to them by mid lifers, especially if the latter have maintained themselves and the former do not look like models. They still look really really cute, young age helps.
Some fellows recommend them. Visuals before play. I can only say I have never had success in St Petersburg with them. Most of them have massage with happy ending, but principally, the dancers I met are stuck up due to their exterior appearance and they ruin any decent experience by senseless up selling. When you are in one of the hundreds of places, they ask you to buy an expensive drink for them, one third of the price being pocketed by them. Aplenty in this setting are girls and booze. Scarce are paying customers. Since I only drink tea when at play, the retard strip club lady starts to serve vodka for free, to entice me to spend more. As if 2 vodka after a half a liter of tea could do me any harm. If you agree for a private dance, they ask for another and another. Since they drink more than you and they are desperate, it really turns uncomfy. Thank you. Bye bye. Dance club or apartment (dom) or especially outcall in the afternoon. You get what you are there for. Fellows who disagree with me: Let us hear it.
Names etc. I cannot share. Would not like my contributions to make it back to the princesses whose privacy must be protected. It actually turns me on when we walk at a discrete distance to one another over Nevski to find a Sushi diner. Let them live their healthy and sexually immensely satisfying double life. Let the youngest & prettiest talent needy of sponsoring come out and play. I also think the search is half the fun, and the disastrous experiences (at a loss of 100 EUR s piece) tremendously amplify the great experiences. Feel free to disagree.Thank you for sharing on a level that is par excellence. I'm definitely taking a page out of this playbook, it is nothing short of wisdom! I liked the idea of getting one in during the day, and hitting the clubs at night. I've used something like that before, in Prague. It works. My only fear is that I won't be able to get in the clubs. I don't like the overcrowded super advertised places, I like a place that has a really good dj and dance floor with enough room, not overcrowded, and not too loud. I like your idea about trying to use "doms"? To find young ones that are not too attractive as to be out of my league, but cute enough and willing enough to spend time with me. Maybe they can get me into the right places, in more ways than one LOL!
With that being said, what are your thoughts about trying something like this, maybe looking up some universities in the area, post myself as someone who is willing to offer conversational English practice over coffee somewhere, and then during the hangout, maybe see if I can't get some of the more attractive takers to escort me to the clubs? I'm paranoid because I know that, in this world, there are 2 places that are absolutely not stag friendly, and that is discotheque / dance-clubs (the world over, single guys get turned away at the door) and strip clubs (internationally confirmed garbage-ass experiences).
Another question please. It sounds like these girls need the client to micromanage the entire experience. To me, the idea of handing her a script takes the fun out of it. Spontaneity of natural expression is so critical to the enjoyment of the experience. If they absolutely need program instructions before hand, can I just tell her to "let nature take over"? Will that work?
SmilySmartie
05-19-15, 19:56
With that being said, what are your thoughts about trying something like this, maybe looking up some universities in the area, post myself as someone who is willing to offer conversational English practice over coffee somewhere, and then during the hangout, maybe see if I can't get some of the more attractive takers to escort me to the clubs? I'm paranoid because I know that, in this world, there are 2 places that are absolutely not stag friendly, and that is discotheque / dance-clubs (the world over, single guys get turned away at the door) and strip clubs (internationally confirmed garbage-ass experiences).
Another question please. It sounds like these girls need the client to micromanage the entire experience. To me, the idea of handing her a script takes the fun out of it. Spontaneity of natural expression is so critical to the enjoyment of the experience. If they absolutely need program instructions before hand, can I just tell her to "let nature take over"? Will that work?There are many many very young ones, great bodies and pretty faces in the apartments. No need to settle for average looks. University. I have seen fellows write about university towns. I will have none of it. If in Russia, try SPb. The anonymity of the big city is the key, not the large student population. The bigger the city, the better your luck. SPb has relatively low economic activity (only city center is beautiful, rest suffers from Peter the Great's dilemma that he build a government outpost in the miserable wetlands) but high loyalty. Gals do not move away. Look, these girls all want to have a decent living, a faithful husband and a kid or two eventually. All of them. Many live in self delusion and a few proactively and self consciously enjoy there promiscuous lifestyle they live. So in a university environment, they will snub you, when their friends are around, but they will be awesome companions as long as the setting is discrete. Micromanage. It really depends on the gal. Believe what they offer on rusdosug. Often they offer more if you are nice and generous. If a girl offers herself in a club, insist on DFK and oral without condom, Russian "MBR", minet bes resniki. Do not settle for less. I would navigate in the 2500 Roubel per hour range if I was you. The saloon takes half the cut. So meet again with her outside of saloon (dom) frame and give her 2000 (or 2500) an hour. She will show her gratitude. 2nd meeting: Roses, a bottle of champagne, prepare her food, buy a pair of shoes, whatever makes her feel special and entertained. Smoke a water pipe. All the princesses I met basically have a nicotine soul self healing mechanism. If you throw in a 20 USD water pipe one sushi. That'll capture her fancy. Visit the doms. English lesson: Too primitive. Many of the Russian princesses who have chosen to give their bodies have abandoned their English when they were fifteen years old. A no starter, your idea. Once you have established a rapport with a willing princess, sure, jokes about English or Russian or teaching some words can be fun. Just like in every other relationship.
There are many many very young ones, great bodies and pretty faces in the apartments. No need to settle for average looks. University. I have seen fellows write about university towns. I will have none of it. If in Russia, try SPb. The anonymity of the big city is the key, not the large student population. The bigger the city, the better your luck. SPb has relatively low economic activity (only city center is beautiful, rest suffers from Peter the Great's dilemma that he build a government outpost in the miserable wetlands) but high loyalty. Gals do not move away. Look, these girls all want to have a decent living, a faithful husband and a kid or two eventually. All of them. Many live in self delusion and a few proactively and self consciously enjoy there promiscuous lifestyle they live. So in a university environment, they will snub you, when their friends are around, but they will be awesome companions as long as the setting is discrete. Micromanage. It really depends on the gal. Believe what they offer on rusdosug. Often they offer more if you are nice and generous. If a girl offers herself in a club, insist on DFK and oral without condom, Russian "MBR", minet bes resniki. Do not settle for less. I would navigate in the 2500 Roubel per hour range if I was you. The saloon takes half the cut. So meet again with her outside of saloon (dom) frame and give her 2000 (or 2500) an hour. She will show her gratitude. 2nd meeting: Roses, a bottle of champagne, prepare her food, buy a pair of shoes, whatever makes her feel special and entertained. Smoke a water pipe. All the princesses I met basically have a nicotine soul self healing mechanism. If you throw in a 20 USD water pipe one sushi. That'll capture her fancy. Visit the doms. English lesson: Too primitive. Many of the Russian princesses who have chosen to give their bodies have abandoned their English when they were fifteen years old. A no starter, your idea. Once you have established a rapport with a willing princess, sure, jokes about English or Russian or teaching some words can be fun. Just like in every other relationship.Brilliant and revealing insights, and a field plan with sound philosophy behind it too! This is a resource, thank you so much. I will stay away from the college scene directly. This makes total sense and explains a few observations I have made in this regard.
If I can get a girl willing to be a companion with me during my trip, at that point I don't think we're counting hours. How much is a fair price per per day?
Sorry for so many questions, I hope that all this training will lead to many field reports (and posted pictures) once I am there hehe BTW if you are staying there in July, lets exchange info in the PM.
Rusdosug seems to be blocked. Anyone got a new address for it? I'm lost without it.
Rusdosug seems to be blocked. Anyone got a new address for it? I'm lost without it.I just checked, and I got to it just fine. Are you able to ping the site? Can you tracer it? It might be a blocked site from your end. Try using TOR so you can maybe get a different route path to site, you know, circumvent the offending router if its not one in your control.
I dunno, just brainstorming for ya buddy.
Hey there!
I will be in SPB next week and was looking for recommendations for good restaurants / bars / clubs or any other activities that I can get into with some freebie ladies. Thanks for the help and some reports will be due if the meetings turn out to be successful.
--S.
Thanks Shawman74 , I got rusdosug to open by using proxy sites.
Apologies for asking this, as I'm sure the answer is somewhere down the thread. Where's a quick, hassle-free place to get HIV / STD tests? Don't mind paying a bit, but don't want to spend hours in line.
Thanks in advance, as the Russians say.
Whats happening guys! Alright, so I am ever-closer to my fateful trip to Russia. And everything is squared away except for one day and one night in St Pete. I have my apartment booked from 16th-22nd, but I fly in from Moscow on the 15th. Since they don't have an availability on the 15th, technically I will be homeless for that first day LOL! Instead of running out and booking a place right away (queue up office music), I thought to check in here for some sage wisdom from my elders (queue up death metal music).
What should I do?
Book one night in an extravagant hotel to experience what it would be like to actually live in a fairy tale palace?
Slum it in a brothel and risk getting my shit stolen?
Spending the night at the mercy of the pavement for an adventure I might live to regret?
Or just masturbate in the airport hotel and torch $100 ish / one full day of my trip in relative safety, but live to see another day?
Putologist
06-28-15, 12:56
Does anyone knows about the pagan sex parties going on around Peterburg this summer. This is the Russian version of "Mardi Gras".
I saw a Russian documentary movie about this tradition, but found few infos in English about locations etc.
Does anyone knows about the pagan sex parties going on around Peterburg this summer. This is the Russian version of "Mardi Gras".
I saw a Russian documentary movie about this tradition, but found few infos in English about locations etc.Hey man!
I tried looking this thing up but to no avail. Send me some of your links, let me see if I can't make some sense out of it.
I can tell you from firsthand personal experience, that with the pagan community, be careful what you wish for, because you might actually get it! Sometimes, "yes" is scarier than a "no" LOL! But all kidding aside, yeah the pagan community is very tight knit and very insular. They are outgoing, extroverted, and very egregious when they want to be, but they don't welcome outsiders at all, and are very suspicious of people, regardless, even if those people share the same faith.
If you can get a lock on this thing they are doing, forward it to me. It will be worth going to see, and I admit that I am versed in paganism enough to be a guide; any flavor, Hindu, wiccan, heathen, you name it. My guess is this gathering would most likely be some type mini-festival thing (because the weather is so nice), including some sabbat for litha / solstice, since everybody is already there. If we can manage to participate in a coven's sabbat, we will have a chance to lay down some real game.
At these things, you don't want to hit on the workers, because they are battle-hardened, and they will end up playing you. Also, it can actually be difficult to open up sets with the out layer girls, but once you do, conversation is easy, and chances for them to hang out with you for a little bit become higher. Especially if they are serving some kind of light alcoholic beverage like mead or cider. It still might be difficult to get in their pants though. LMR is a real, ain't it?
If you are going to be in StP, I am there from July 15-22, and even if you are not, you already know I got you for Moscow July 8th-14th!
Putologist
06-29-15, 08:30
Hey man!
I tried looking this thing up but to no avail. Send me some of your links, let me see if I can't make some sense out of it.
I can tell you from firsthand personal experience, that with the pagan community, be careful what you wish for, because you might actually get it! Sometimes, "yes" is scarier than a "no" LOL! I think we are talking about 2 different things. The people on the documentary were very open minded and not religious at all. It was just about fun and sex.
One of their well known traditions is the "bride hunt": first they all (anyone can join) gather together at the beach, make the fire, then drink some vodka, all get naked by then, just to start the hunt, which means a young woman put some ornaments (flowers, paths) in her head and run randomly through the beach. The men start to hunt her and the one who "catches" her first has the right to fuck her right there on the beach. Both the girl and the men hunting her are all naked BTW.
I think we are talking about 2 different things. The people on the documentary were very open minded and not religious at all. It was just about fun and sex.
One of their well known traditions is the "bride hunt": first they all (anyone can join) gather together at the beach, make the fire, then drink some vodka, all get naked by then, just to start the hunt, which means a young woman put some ornaments (flowers, paths) in her head and run randomly through the beach. The men start to hunt her and the one who "catches" her first has the right to fuck her right there on the beach. Both the girl and the men hunting her are all naked BTW.Hmm. Looks like its most likely some private nudist and / or swingers group's party then. And most likely a sausage-fest at best. The female merchandise from that whole scene always seemed a bit questionable. Fat, old, ugly, married, or all four! But with 90% being males at these parties, they don't have to worry about competition. Besides, if a guy is willing to let you screw his wife, then one of 2 things is happening -.
A) he is in the closet watching you two and filming it, or.
B) he is in the closet, getting naked, and waiting the perfect moment to pounce on your behind!
I'm not trying to kill a "can do" attitude, but just based on what you told me, I would say this is a terrible idea.
Putologist
06-30-15, 08:46
Hmm. Looks like its most likely some private nudist and / or swingers group's party then...Well I am not planning visiting those beaches anyway, I was just curious about the tradition. Thanks for your opinion.
Spending the night at the mercy of the pavement for an adventure I might live to regret?
I did this one trip in Moscow. Don't know the situation in Peter. I took the train in from the airport and stowed my luggage at the luggage storage place at the Moscow side train station and then stay out all night. It really only works if you can get into your apartment early. Staying out all night is probably what you are planning to do anyway.
For god's sake, don't stay at the airport hotel. At least go into the city.
I'm wondering, is there anyone who can offer more info on xxxmassage. Ru? It was recommended as top-notch service in September, and the site looks quite promising; ofc anyone can upload wonderful pic but I definitely like that the booking system is rather simple and logical (you can book via the operator if he / she is online or via text. They provide sample messages and as you can send them in English I'm sure its the same operator who handles them) and that they provide a detailed info on how to reach them by metro or taxi. The same applies to the prices (all in ruble). The girls look stunning, and that one review endorses the site, but would appreciate more info on the place.I only noticed this post now. I have been back to xxxmassage a few times this year due to some business travel to neighbouring states. While not all sessions were the golden one I enjoyed last September, I can still say the girls there are real stunners. Not all provide extras though. The owner has to be one hottest russian girls I have ever seen and seems to attract the same calibre of girls to her staff. It is just a matter of figuring out who puts out.
Over all, I am still happy with the place.
https://www.rusdosug.com/indi200596.htm
Telephone: +7 (921) 877-95-70*Info.
Age: 21.
Height: 161 cm (5'3'.
Breast size: 3 (C).
Gorgeous girl. Photos are real. Face is very pretty and demeanor is excellent. Full service includes CBJ infortunately. But you can pay for additional add-ONS should you wish. Located in an apartment which is easy to find once she gives you directions. Speaks English fairly well. MSOG is fine as long as you are within your allocated time. Total cost Rub 4000. I already met her twice.
Heads up guys, strip club "BA", WILL STEAL YOUR MONEY!
They are on the lower floor from the street. Just around the corner from the church of our savior on spilled blood.
I know I owe you guys adventure reports from Moscow and StP, and those are coming soon. But I just wanted to drop a quick alert and possibly save someone else.
Heads up guys, strip club "BA", WILL STEAL YOUR MONEY!
They are on the lower floor from the street. Just around the corner from the church of our savior on spilled blood.
I know I owe you guys adventure reports from Moscow and StP, and those are coming soon. But I just wanted to drop a quick alert and possibly save someone else.Thanks SM. Looking forward to your reports.
Hi,
I am travelling to St. Petersburg this weekend. While, I have gone through last 20 pages of this forum but I guess I am not able to get the answers to couple of things.
- Which is good GFE hotel and which area one should stay for mongering activities. One should take apartment or hotel?
- It seems visiting salons, rusdosg are main options to get girls. Any suggestions on any night clubs where anyone has got a girl (I know it depends a lot on talent).
Also, if someone has recently been there and can share some good contacts, it would be welcome and appreciated.
Thanks
"Tatyana" on Mamba. 6000 for covered BJ and covered classic 10000 if you want uncovered BJ. 2 hours, though she stayed longer and it took her 90 minutes to find the apartment I'm staying in (during a rain deluge too, so thumbs up for that). She may or may not be an independent. The photos are definitely hers. I'd say this one is from a couple of years ago and the ones on Mamba more recent, so write me backchannel if you want her Mamba info or her number.
She speaks no English whatsoever, though she indicated to me she prefers to meet foreigners (Western Europeans, Americans). I can only guess she communicates via the translator on her phone.
BTW, if your writing to girls on Mamba, and it's your first time trying to write them, you can't write to them if they have more than 5 unanswered messages now, unless your VIP.
Met her a couple of nights ago. She's about 168 cm, late 20's probably, lots of energy, and she will dress to your desires, though I can't say how extensive her wardrobe is. I asked her to wear heels, stockings, black dress and that's how she turned up. She has 11 photos on Mamba and this one, which she sent to me via Viber.
Which are the main sites in Russia? Mamba and what about Rusdosug, is it "reliable" and Mambs is a chat site right?
Is it safe? I love the women over there but wonder about how it is by going alone.
HarryDubois
10-09-15, 14:44
With perfect girls like this available in St Petersburg for $35, why on earth do any men go anywhere else??
https://vipsoski.me/index/show-ank/n/2524
Who needs Brazil, Thailand, the Philippines, whatever?
Or are these profiles fakes? They seem too good to be true. So are they?
Member #4491
10-13-15, 01:11
Or are these profiles fakes? They seem too good to be true. So are they?Lovely girl. If you do a Google image search you get about three pages of hits.
Lovely girl. If you do a Google image search you get about three pages of hits.When I download this photo, it arrives as image. Jpg.
Filename does not seem to uniquely idenitify the image. So what would I use for search criteria?
Was in SPB for 2 days and had a wonderful time. I can confirm that there are lot of girls available and various websites mentioned in forum have a wider selection.
Had called various numbers and had booked with one of girl who works as independent and had her for 1 hour in my hotel the total damage was 5000 roubles and with 2 pops and wonderful service. The girls was.
22 and had given best service.
Second day had booked another independent girl who spoke little English but when the girl came it was different girl didn't spoke English, she was 21 amazing body, and best service. Total damage was 6 k roubles and 1 pop.
I can confirm that the working girl scene is there and girls are really good and they give very good service. Look forward to be in SPB again soon.
Hi gents, just returned from Russia and posted a brief report about my adventure in Moscow. Spent the last night of the trip in Sp, booked at the Corinthia hotel. Great location. After the last business dinner was complete, had a 2 hour tour of the city with my hosts and then I was free. I checked out a bar 5 min away from the hotel, certainly had a number of working girls looking for clients, but frankly nothing appealing. Made my way back to the hotel to access the web. There were 3 ladies in the hotel lobby, but all were well past their "best by" date. Called around a bit and found a salon with someone that speaks English about 10 min from the hotel. I headed over for a look. Can't recall the name, although I'm sure it's encrypted on my phone somewhere. In any event, I arrive and there's 5 girls working. One stunner, 3 not bad, and one beast. Obviously zoned in on the stunner. She spoke very little English, but enough we could communicate. I asked about taking her to the hotel for the night. $180 for the night plus an additional $20 to take her off site. Had any of the others been better looking, I would have taken the lot for that price. Anyway, she changes into street clothes and off we go. Absolutely a ton of fun. Spent the first hour just drinking, slowly getting her undressed and just clowning around. She really was a ton of fun and would have gone all night. We did sleep, and she offered the breakfast of champions. Gave her $50 as a tip before she left.
Most definitely looking forward to my next trip.
Stirling.
Hi gents, just returned from Russia and posted a brief report about my adventure in Moscow. Spent the last night of the trip in Sp, booked at the Corinthia hotel...Hi Stirling.
Does the Corinthia have a joiner fee if you bring in girls from the outside?
Does it require ID or ask questions, creating a walk of shame?
Does it have its own girls in a lobby bar, hotel club or the like?
Accurate hotel details is some of the most valued info on ISG.
Thanks.
Cucumber.
Hi Stirling.
Does the Corinthia have a joiner fee if you bring in girls from the outside?
Does it require ID or ask questions, creating a walk of shame?
Does it have its own girls in a lobby bar, hotel club or the like?
Accurate hotel details is some of the most valued info on ISG.
Thanks.
Cucumber.Hi Cucumber, there are ladies available in the lobby, but frankly most were well past their best days. If the Corinthia has a policy of registering the ladies, I'm not aware of it. I simply breezed in with my girl and headed up to the room. If it's a concern, you can come in the hotels back door and access the elevators without passing the front desk.
Stirling.
Heading to SP tomorrow and have been messaging a few hotties on Mamba. Ru without success. Is it futile or just a numbers game? Headed to Moscow next week so I guess I'll keep on trying.
MAIN SALONS IN PETERSBURG.
- Karamelki (four branches) http://karamelki.org/.
- Markiza (four branches) http://markizaspb.org/.
- Tsa Tsa (two branches) http://piterlux.com/home.html.
- Chiki (three branches) http://forum.amurworld.com/index.php?showtopic=101682&pid=1340187&st=20&#entry1340187 (not a real website, but the three branches are listed at bottom of page).
- Mu MU (or Me and You) http://forum.amurspb.ru/index.php?showforum=375 or http://www.mumu-spb.ru/?cat=12&paged=2.
- Art Escort (one branch, I think) http://artesc.ru/en.
The AM chain has lots of really beautiful girls, almost exclusively 8's and 9's, especially if you like buxom 170-180 cm girls with firm breasts and not a blemish, but lots of restrictions (no chance of kissing or BBBJ, not even DATY). DATY and kissing are my vocation in life, so I avoid the AM chain like the pest.
I also avoid strip bars like the pest. If you want to watch beautiful women, look at porn. If you want to get rid of money, burn it or throw it in the Neva River or give it to somebody poor. But why pay huge amounts of money to look at women whom you can hardly touch, when you can have wild, intense sex with attractive women for a lot less. Beats me.
GENERAL REMARKS.
A salon is a Russian-style brothel, usually located in a large apartment in a regular residential building. At all of these establishments, you need to make a prior appointment by phone. When you get in, you are met by an administratorsha (female admin), take off your shoes, you will usually be offered flip-flops or slippers, are shown to a room and sit down there and wait there alone for one or more girls to present themselves (often entering and exiting the room one at a time and just saying their name, giving you little time to look or strike up a conversation), afterwards the administratorsha comes back in, whereupon you tell her your choice. If you don't like any of the girls you are free to leave. They may try to talk you into staying, but this is up to you. Your chosen girl then comes back, receives your payment and shows you the way to the shower. She may take a shower at the same time as you (in a different bathroom), or afterwards (in which case you are left alone in the bedroom again for a while), or she may have just taken a shower after the last client. They usually try hard to avoid clients meeting each other in the hallway when they arrive, go to the shower, or depart as it would be seen as indiscreet. I often leave my clothes and valuables in the bedroom while I go and shower. I have done this many times, and never had any problems anywhere with theft.
For a few days of salon hopping you will need: a Russian SIM card with internet access, a Russian taxi app installed on your phone (similar to Uber; Gett and Yandex are two good ones for Petersburg and Moscow), some Cialis (sold without a prescription by Russian pharmacies) and Russian language skills. It is important to have a Russian SIM card because you will need to first call the salons to enquire whether they will receive you, and then, once you have arrived at the designated address, to get guidance on how to identify the right entrance and get into the building. Thus if you are calling from a foreign mobile it will be expensive and your number may look suspicious to them. If you first call from a landline and then a mobile, they can't recognize your number as the guy who called and made an appointment a little while ago. It is also highly useful to use Google maps on your phone to find your way around.
If you don't' speak Russian, it would be best to have the help of a local (see also the point on foreign accents below). The ideal for a non-Russian speaker might be a combined driver / interpreter / secretary who spoke English and Russian and thus could make calls for you, drive you where necessary, help you find the correct entrance and floor and pick you up again afterwards. This will obviously drive prices up.
Petersburg is not the ideal place to go for a one or two day stint. It is best to have 3-5 days (without too many other commitments). This is because it is a bit hit and miss, and sometimes there is a bit of resistance or practicalities are difficult to work out if you don't know your way around. Petersburg is also not the best place to go for an inexperienced mongerer or an inexperienced traveller. Even an experienced mongerer and traveller who does not have much post-Soviet experienced may be put off. Frequently one has to go into situations where alarm bells are ringing (into a dark, run-down courtyard in the middle of the night; through an obscure unmarked door; into a smelly, dingy stairwell, etc.). But with a little familiarity with post-Soviet conditions, some risk-taking, sufficient time and effort and money, much can be achieved.
Many of the Petersburg salons have multiple branches in different locations. Calling around to the salons at around 10 pm, many of them may have neither girls nor rooms left, especially the most centrally located ones. Some of the salons claim to operate almost exclusively through advance reservations of specific girls, often from long-term clients. They may have one girl available in one or two hours, but some days it is not so easy to just walk in and select from a large group. But once you are in and have spent an hour with a girl, there may be another girl or two or three available and that way you can sometimes continue until your erection / back / knees fail you.
The photos on websites of these salons are all authentic (at least Karamelki and Markiza), though there are always some additional girls who don't have photos on the website yet. At least for Karamelki and Markiza you can see a schedule on the website of exactly who is at work when at which of their branches (which does not necessarily mean that that girl is available, as she may be busy with another client). But it is still pretty professional and impressive.
When I called the salons, the lady on the line (1076;1080;1089;1087;1077;1095;1077;1088; would sometimes be rude and impatient. A well known phenomenon here. I speak good Russian for a foreigner, but they can still tell I am not quite Russian after a few sentences and this can be a problem as they fear I may be from Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Pakistan are somewhere like that. So as soon as I notice any resistance I mention which Western country I am from, and then they usually seem more open. I asked a couple of girls about this, and they confirmed that that is what is going on. They explained that they see people from those countries as disrespectful towards the girls and sometimes unhygenic and difficult to communicate with and therefore try to keep them out of their establishments. I am not passing judgement on anyone, just reporting my impressions of other people's ideas in order that we all can understand the situation as well as possible.
KARAMELKI.
Karamelki is the best known of the chains of salons in Petersburg and subject to most reviews and discussion on the Russian internet fora. According to its website, it has four branches. In practice Mayakovskogo I and II are two apartments on the same floor on the same staircase. But are run as separate operations. The Karamelki at Volkolvskiy seems to be located quite near Pulkovo Airport, perhaps a 10 minute drive (if there is no traffic jam) - but I have never been there to check.
The girls are mostly not model-style attractive, more your girl next-door type with a good bit of variety. There are some real beauties too, but they tend to be fully booked. Service is usually good or great and open-minded and people tend to have good experiences there. I have at least twice had quite serious crushes on girls from Karamelki. Girls whom I was not sure whether to select when looking at the lineup, but who blew me away in the room. The chain has a total ban on BBBJ, but in practice this is not always upheld, some girls will reach a deal for extra payment, and some will do it on their own initiative (and some will not do it no matter what).
The dispecher at Karamelki Vasileostrovskiy was very pleasant and eager on the phone. I slept with three girls: Lilya, Ilona and [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901). One was ok, one was good (in fact great PSE, but with silicone and Botox, which I don't like and which is not typical Karamelki), and one was mind-boggling (ultra-petite, super-firm body, pretty face, killer in bed, open-minded, nice conversation). I get the impression that the interaction with the girls at Karamelki is very personal, so how things work out depends a bit on the chemistry between you and the girl. When I arrived around 5 pm, there were only three girls there, but when I left around 10 pm there seemed to be around 10 girls sitting around various places in the house.
Another day I went to Karamelki Mayakovskogo I and II. At Mayakogskogo II there were around 6 girls available, but none of them really attractive. I opted for Kira. It was an error. I had noted which girls did not offer cunnilingus and avoided them. She was supposed to offer it. But when I went down on her, she suddenly wanted 5000 RUB (extra for that. A really bad case of upselling, in the middle of the act. She did it all in a very unpleasant and cold way, ruining the atmosphere. In the end I threw her out and asked for another girl. Something I have almost never done before in my life. I had another couple of girls. They were ok, but nothing great. Not a single girl in there would kiss. And I had not eating anything smelly, and I had brushed my teeth and they knew I had disinfected my mouth. And the administrator refused to return my money for Kira. They were manipulative and unpleasant. I would stay away from Mayakogskogo II.
On the way out I thought, "What the heck, since I am here anyway, why not have a look at Mayakogskogo I before I leave? So I got the administrator to call them and they opened the door for me. It was really quiet, and there were only two girls there. One of them was Amalia (no picture on the website). I was very in doubt about what to do. I was whacked out and also not in a great mood after the unpleasant experience at Mayakogskogo II. But Amalia was beautiful, really beautiful. And stylish. Solid 9, perhaps a 10. Slight exotic look, like half Chinese and half European (in fact turned out she was part Tartar). She looked a bit like a Bond girl, but with a slimmer, harder body. So I stayed. And I extended an extra hour. Because she was fantastic. VDFK, penetrative rimming, genuine masturbation on her part and initiative, and some intense role playing on her initiative. In the end the role playing even went on too long for me and I was beginning to wonder if we could ever snap out of it. She also somehow seemed not so smart, but was still an person to be around.
Cost at Karamelki Vasileostrovski: 5000 RUB per hour (1000 more than at the other Karamelki).
Directions to branch at Vasileostrovskiy. Address: 15-aya Linia, Dom 62, Vassiylevskiy Ostrov. Enter the yard where a stand-alone house of several stories has been built inside the yard. Ring the doorbell and once the door is answered you are in (no need to find the right floor or anything). The entire house is a brothel, with various rooms, showers etc. Vassiylevskiy Ostrov is an island across the river from Nevskiy Prospekt and the bridges close at 1:30 am for a few hours, so you should make sure not to get stuck there after that.
Directions to the Karamelki branches at Mayakovskogo: Ulitsa Myakovskogo, Dom 23. There is an unlit sign there that says "Biblioteka". Stand under the sign and ring the bell to be let through the gate, through the arc and into the yard. In the yard there is another arc on the left, which you do not go through. Instead you call them again and they let you in through the door immediately to the right of the arc. The apartments are on the sixth floor, but the ramshackle lift only goes to the fifth floor, so you need to climb the last flight of steps even if you brave the lift. When you get to the top Mayakogskogo I is to the right and II to the left (as far as I remember). Go to I, not II.
MARKIZA.
Markiza at Prospekt Prosveshcheniya is far from the center, in northern Petersburg. Markiza at Park Pobedy is a bit out of the center, in a southward direction. The two other Markiza branches are both near the city's main street, Nevskiy Prospekt and relatively near each other. I tried the branch at Ploschad Vosstaniya.
I first slept with Kristina, who didn't have her profile on the website. She demonstrated a level of sexual aggression I don't think I have ever experienced before. As usual I was left in a room on my own by the administratorsha to wait for her. I was expecting her to come in, mention her name, and then slip out again before I even had a chance to have a proper look, as they tend to do. In stead, the door opens, this quite attractive, fit girl comes in, says her name and flashes a big smile, walks up to me, grabs the back of my neck, and starts to kiss me intensely while digging around for my cock with her other hand and undressing me. No introductions, no demand for payment in advance, no off to the shower (though I did ultimately extract myself and go and wash since I had been out and about all day). She wanted to fuck in any and every way possible. She deep throated me time after time, all the way to the hilt, and then tried to get my balls in too. I think it is only the second or third time someone has deep-throated me for real in my life. But mostly she just slammed away. Even in doggie she was slamming hard against me and my main task was essentially to avoid reeling backwards. After about 20 minutes she was covered in her own perspiration on the outside and beautifully sopping wet on the inside. After 60 minutes I couldn't take any more.
Afterwards I tried Ulyana. I made a point of making the session with her different, and kept her standing up against the wall for as long as I could before moving to the bed, holding her gently but tightly, caressing her, whispering in her ear, tickling her neck, playing with the edges of her underwear and ultimately dropping to my knees to lick and rim her both from the the front and from behind. She responded nicely. After sex we had a nice conversation and it turned out she is a mechanic of all things and mad about cars. I have zero interest in cars, but it was an interesting conversation nonetheless.
The two hours I was there, there was only one other girl available. Seemingly there were one or more girls there who were busy.
Examining the website of the Markiza and Karamelki chains more closely I get a feeling that they may be run by the same people.
Cost 3000 RUB per hour.
Directions: The precise address is Ligovskiy Prospekt, Dom 44. Ploshchad Vosstaniya is the big roundabout at the end of Nevskiy Prospekt and in front of Moskovskiy Vogzal (railway station). If you walk from Ploschad Vosstaniya down the left side of Ligovskiy prospekt you will first get to the large, modern shopping mall Galeria. Once you have passed that, there will be a Chaynaya Lozhka cafe on a corner. Turn to the left there into a blind alley, at the end of which are big wrought iron gates. The gate on the left is always open, walk through that and continue straight fowards another 30 feet or so, and you will get to the corner of a building with a large number "6" over the door. There are two small dorbells next to the main one, ring the one on the far right without a light. The salon is on a high ground floor.
TSA TSA.
Tsa Tsa has two branches. I visited the one at Moskovskiy Prospekt 147. There were only 2 girls there when I was there, one face 5, body 7, the other face 5 body 8 (+ big labia, which is a 10 for me. I spent an hour first with one, then an hour and a half with the other. At first they were cold, but they both thawed and were very pleasant, and we had nice conversations and pleasant sex.
Cost: 2500 RUB per hour + 500 RUB for BBBJ. No kissing.
Directions: To get in, find the a very big set of red doors, dial 20 on the domofon and take the ramshackle lift to the sixth floor.
CHIKI.
This is the least organized of the chains. I tried the branch at Voznesenski Prospekt. The administratorsha was pleasant. It turned out to be a really cramped, simple flat. There were only two girls there. I chose Agata. 167 cm, zero breasts, very tight body, soft hair, nice pussy. She was so delicate and passionate that I ended up extending for a half an hour, in spite of being very tired. At the start she would not kiss, but clearly she wanted to. So I caressed, nibbled, stroked and played with her for a full 45 minutes but never let her have it all, and ultimately she was gagging for both kisses and a real fuck.
Cost 3000 RUB per hour, 2000 RUB for a half hour extension.
Directions: Voznesenski Prospekt, Dom 31. The entrance is straight off the street, right by a bus stop sign.
ART ESCORT.
This is the upscale agency in Petersburg. Prices 8000-12000 RUB per hour. They claim to have better service than other places, and (for once) it seems plausible. I never got around to trying them though, because the experiences I had the other places were enough for me and my funds were limited. I think there may also be another salon that tries to pass as Art Escort, so it is important to make sure you have got the right place.
Captain Solo
11-09-15, 16:48
Hi Cucumber,
Thanks for an excellent and detailed reports.
This beautiful girl Julia in Karamel lists her rate as 4000 rubles or about only $65 per hour in 2015, because the ruble lost half of its value last year. This is a very good deal.
Wonder if the selections and pricings are even better in Moscow and other cities in Russia?
MAIN SALONS IN PETERSBURG.
- Karamelki (four branches) http://karamelki.org/.
- Markiza (four branches) http://markizaspb.org/.
- Tsa Tsa (two branches) http://piterlux.com/home.html...
Heading to SP tomorrow and have been messaging a few hotties on Mamba. Ru without success. Is it futile or just a numbers game? Headed to Moscow next week so I guess I'll keep on trying.Hi Grrr,
In Moscow are many great clubs. Night Flight, Bordo, Rasputin, Viagra and many more. The massage salons are excellent. Vanilia near Arbat is wonderful. All pictures are real and itis really very cheap.
I think you are unlikely to find cheaper options in Moscow. It is one of the world's most expensive cities. It is a big tough place with the highest concentration of billionaires in the world (at least at some point during recent years) as well as a lot of other successful people. And surprise, surprise, they all like sex too. Since it is so big, distances also get time and money consuming. It is not a budget destination. Neither is Petersburg, but Moscow is unlikely to be cheaper. Look at the poor sods on the Moscow forum going to Night Fligth and paying 500 EUR for makeup.
Concerning other locations in Russia my information is a bit out of date. I think there may still be good opportunities, but you would need time and perserverance and would probably benefit immensely from Russian language skills.
Hi Cucumber,
Thanks for an excellent and detailed reports.
This beautiful girl Julia in Karamel lists her rate as 4000 rubles or about only $65 per hour in 2015, because the ruble lost half of its value last year. This is a very good deal.
Wonder if the selections and pricings are even better in Moscow and other cities in Russia?
Outstanding report Cucumber.
This site https://vipsoski.me seems to feature lots of interesting profiles. Did anyone try this site? Are the profiles with videos more believable?
Very good and useful report! I am now planning to visit some Salons in SP. But I read some report on the internet about high HIV infection rate among sex workers in SP, even 50%, So do you have any suggestions on how to avoid that except for condom? Thanks!
The AM chain has lots of really beautiful girls, almost exclusively 8's and 9's, especially if you like buxom 170-180 cm girls with firm breasts and not a blemish, but lots of restrictions (no chance of kissing or BBBJ, not even DATY). DATY and kissing are my vocation in life, so I avoid the AM chain like the pest.
I also avoid strip bars like the pest. If you want to watch beautiful women, look at porn. If you want to get rid of money, burn it or throw it in the Neva River or give it to somebody poor. But why pay huge amounts of money to look at women whom you can hardly touch, when you can have wild, intense sex with attractive women for a lot less. Beats me.
General remarks.
A salon is a Russian-style brothel, usually located in a large apartment in a regular residential building. At all of these establishments, you need to make a prior appointment by phone. When you get in, you are met by an administratorsha (female admin), take off your shoes, you will usually be offered flip-flops or slippers, are shown to a room and sit down there and wait there alone for one or more girls to present themselves (often entering and exiting the room one at a time and just saying their name, giving you little time to look or strike up a conversation), afterwards the administratorsha comes back in, whereupon you tell her your choice. If you don't like any of the girls you are free to leave. They may try to talk you into staying, but this is up to you. Your chosen girl then comes back, receives your payment and shows you the way to the shower. She may take a shower at the same time as you (in a different bathroom), or afterwards (in which case you are left alone in the bedroom again for a while), or she may have just taken a shower after the last client. They usually try hard to avoid clients meeting each other in the hallway when they arrive, go to the shower, or depart as it would be seen as indiscreet. I often leave my clothes and valuables in the bedroom while I go and shower. I have done this many times, and never had any problems anywhere with theft.
For a few days of salon hopping you will need: a Russian SIM card with internet access, a Russian taxi app installed on your phone (similar to Uber; Gett and Yandex are two good ones for Petersburg and Moscow), some Cialis (sold without a prescription by Russian pharmacies) and Russian language skills. It is important to have a Russian SIM card because you will need to first call the salons to inquire whether they will receive you, and then, once you have arrived at the designated address, to get guidance on how to identify the right entrance and get into the building. Thus if you are calling from a foreign mobile it will be expensive and your number may look suspicious to them. If you first call from a land line and then a mobile, they can't recognize your number as the guy who called and made an appointment a little while ago. It is also highly useful to use Google maps on your phone to find your way around.
If you don't' speak Russian, it would be best to have the help of a local (see also the point on foreign accents below). The ideal for a non-Russian speaker might be a combined driver / interpreter / secretary who spoke English and Russian and thus could make calls for you, drive you where necessary, help you find the correct entrance and floor and pick you up again afterwards. This will obviously drive prices up.
I really hope someone chimes in with current info about HIV risk. 50%? Really?
I found a clever solution for calling from a russian cell# outside Russia. The first time I went to Russia last year, I purchased a local SIM card. Then, I registered the number for calling line identification on my Skype account. Then, I was able to negotiate and inquire with a salon using my Skype account just prior to my arrival while appearing to be in Russia. It allowed me to hit the ground running with potential arrangenents made for my first day. Once I returned to SPB, I just recharged my SIM, continued using it and no one knew the difference. I suppose my cover could have been blown if they had called me back prior to arrival but it didn't seem to happen.
Very good and useful report! I am now planning to visit some Salons in SP. But I read some report on the internet about high HIV infection rate among sex workers in SP, even 50%, So do you have any suggestions on how to avoid that except for condom? Thanks!
The AM chain has lots of really beautiful girls, almost exclusively 8's and 9's, especially if you like buxom 170-180 cm girls with firm breasts and not a blemish, but lots of restrictions (no chance of kissing or BBBJ, not even DATY). DATY and kissing are my vocation in life, so I avoid the AM chain like the pest.
I also avoid strip bars like the pest. If you want to watch beautiful women, look at porn. If you want to get rid of money, burn it or throw it in the Neva River or give it to somebody poor. But why pay huge amounts of money to look at women whom you can hardly touch, when you can have wild, intense sex with attractive women for a lot less. Beats me.
General remarks.
A salon is a Russian-style brothel, usually located in a large apartment in a regular residential building. At all of these establishments, you need to make a prior appointment by phone. When you get in, you are met by an administratorsha (female admin), take off your shoes, you will usually be offered flip-flops or slippers, are shown to a room and sit down there and wait there alone for one or more girls to present themselves (often entering and exiting the room one at a time and just saying their name, giving you little time to look or strike up a conversation), afterwards the administratorsha comes back in, whereupon you tell her your choice. If you don't like any of the girls you are free to leave. They may try to talk you into staying, but this is up to you. Your chosen girl then comes back, receives your payment and shows you the way to the shower. She may take a shower at the same time as you (in a different bathroom), or afterwards (in which case you are left alone in the bedroom again for a while), or she may have just taken a shower after the last client. They usually try hard to avoid clients meeting each other in the hallway when they arrive, go to the shower, or depart as it would be seen as indiscreet. I often leave my clothes and valuables in the bedroom while I go and shower. I have done this many times, and never had any problems anywhere with theft.
For a few days of salon hopping you will need: a Russian SIM card with internet access, a Russian taxi app installed on your phone (similar to Uber; Gett and Yandex are two good ones for Petersburg and Moscow), some Cialis (sold without a prescription by Russian pharmacies) and Russian language skills. It is important to have a Russian SIM card because you will need to first call the salons to inquire whether they will receive you, and then, once you have arrived at the designated address, to get guidance on how to identify the right entrance and get into the building. Thus if you are calling from a foreign mobile it will be expensive and your number may look suspicious to them. If you first call from a land line and then a mobile, they can't recognize your number as the guy who called and made an appointment a little while ago. It is also highly useful to use Google maps on your phone to find your way around.
If you don't' speak Russian, it would be best to have the help of a local (see also the point on foreign accents below). The ideal for a non-Russian speaker might be a combined driver / interpreter / secretary who spoke English and Russian and thus could make calls for you, drive you where necessary, help you find the correct entrance and floor and pick you up again afterwards. This will obviously drive prices up.
I really hope someone chimes in with current info about HIV risk. 50%? Really? ... Since nobody has risen to the occasion, I will try to address this question. If you want some information about HIV in Russia, this is a good place to start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Russia.
To me, 50% HIV positive prostitutes sounds like a high number. In any case I expect it is difficult to give an even remotely accurate number, because there are so many different groups of prostitutes, ranging from impoverished, low-class, drug-abusing streetwalkers at tochkas on the outskirts of the city to high-class and sometimes highly educated escorts. And a lot of different categories in between. I get the impression that NGOs and agencies involved in fighting HIV tend to base their data on the former rather than the latter. And have an intrinsic interest in exaggerating the situation.
Having said that, there is no doubt that Russia has a serious problem with HIV and AIDS. Intravenous drug use is one big component, but heterosexual contraction is playing a growing (and already big) role. HIV carries a much bigger stigma in Russia than in most Western countries, so the problem is largely hidden and as you know you cannot tell from looking at (or having sex with) someone whether they are infected or not. If you sleep with tens or hundreds of working girls, as I and many other people on this site do, it is highly likely that you have slept with people who were HIV positive. If you consistently use condoms for penetrative sex (vaginal and anal) the risk is very low, if the condoms are of good quality and you know how to use them. I don't know of any other way of securing oneself. Sleeping with prostitutes without a condom is a very high risk activity in Russia and I would say anywhere, and also deeply unethical (possibly more so than involuntary forced sex or sleeping with girls not of legal age). The idiots on ISG bragging about their BBFS to me sound more like feminist imposters trying to denigrate mongering. But I am afraid that is unfortunately not what they are.
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I am at Saint Pete now, staying at a private flat just north of city centre.
My first stop this week so far has been at xxxmassage. Ru. This is my third visit there this year. Not since my initial visit in 2014, reported previously, have I been offered FS. This time, I bought the full package for two hours with Yuli just to see what would transpire. It eventually led to a very, very long handjob. There are limits to this and quickly reached a point of diminishing returns. I still haven't worked out how to get as far as I did my first magical visit but I keep trying. It's worth the rub7500. The women at Pioneerskaya are beautiful albeit not as generous as hoped.
My next stop as been markizaspb. Org Gostinom Dvore for a few hours of Arisha. She's a real stunner, 9. 5 with plenty of energy. She left no stone unturned. Great few hours of full service for rub7000. I plan to try their Bosstaniya location tomorrow if the right girls are there. This agency seems to be the best found so far for FS.
Last night I also gave Maximus a try. There were a LOT of uglies there. I managed a few private dances with the fw 8 or 9's that I saw but reaching them took some time trying to get past the throng of disappointments. I recommend anyone going there to bring no less than 30 (rub100 notes to get past each hustler one at a time. But was unable to negotiate a hotel room session with any of the stunners though there were many offers from several I was not desperate enough to yake home.
Anyone ever do a long term stay in st pete (1-2 years) or is that nuts with how cold and dark the winters are there? Wondering if expats have only visited for a few months or actually try to live for a few years to enjoy the city and mongering.
You cannot stay in Russia for a year or longer without leaving the country and reentering it. I'm too lazy to check the visa rules, but there is also a limit to the total number of days you can spend in Russia each year. I visit Russia 6-8 times each year, with stays varying between 10 days and 35 days, with a business visa. When I visit other cities, and my work contacts in those cities have to register my visa, someone actually does count the number of days I've been in Russia to see if I'm in danger of exceeding the max, so sometimes at least it's taken seriously.
I rent an apartment owned by a local and shop in nearby markets, cook in the apartment, etc. Presently, it's dirt cheap for me to live here.
There are a few members who post in the Moscow section who are basically expats. You might post your question there and see what their answers are to staying in Russia long term as well.
I'm in Piter now, January 2016. It becomes dark about 16.00 and light around 10.00, so your lucky to have 6 hours or so of sunlight. If it's overcast, it can seem dark the entire day. Piter weather is notoriously unpredictable and unhealthy, as it can be cold with high humidity, and this time of year the streets and metro, busses, etc are full of people coughing and hacking. Everyone in Piter complains about two things, the weather and Moscow. About a week ago it was +7c. Today it was -25 c. Moscow is hated because, well, basically it's a dump, the people there are obnoxious, and the metro is a labyrinth full of zombies, and, more to the point, every Russian not living in Moscow resents the fact that tax money is taken from their regions and sent to Moscow to try and make Moscow look good (a hopeless task). For example, when I was in a mid sized southern Russian city a few weeks ago, everyone was bitter about the fact that their city had no money for New Years decorations, because, so they claimed, the money had gone to Moscow to decorate Red Square.
This year it's been unusually warm in Piter, until just recently, with little snow. Usually there is snow and ice on the streets by this time and quite cold and often quite windy. In the summers it can be quite hot and, depending on where your staying, there can be a lot of tiny, aggressive, mosquitoes. Piter has suicidal mosquitoes. They will land on you, bite you, and stay biting you until they finish or until you kill them. For variation, you can go to one of the small islands and find giant mosquitoes. Which the locals claim were produced by all the chemical waste left on the islands over the years. Rumor has it one or more of these islands plays host to raves each summer.
As far as mongering goes, there are lots of posts in this section and in the Moscow section (the two cities most people go to) addressing various aspects of it. The situation may be trending pro-mongering however, as the extended slump in the Russian economy may be biting into "normal" people's budgets, and "normal" girls may start considering the occasional meeting with gift a go-to option, like it was back in the "day" before the Putin led recovery. A few hours ago I was able to exchange dollars for 74.3 rubles. The ruble has been trading in the 60's and 70's against the dollar now for about a year, and forecasts aren't good for 2016. Personally, I still use Mamba to find girls occasionally in Piter. In the completely un-scientific impression category, this trip it has seemed to me more girls replied on Mamba than previously, with prices being quoted as low as 5000r for 1-2 hours, though most of the girls who seemed to be independents and not some salon hustler wanted anywhere from 10-20000r.
Anyone ever do a long term stay in st pete (1-2 years) or is that nuts with how cold and dark the winters are there? Wondering if expats have only visited for a few months or actually try to live for a few years to enjoy the city and mongering.
You cannot stay in Russia for a year or longer without leaving the country and reentering it. I'm too lazy to check the visa rules, but there is also a limit to the total number of days you can spend in Russia each year. I visit Russia 6-8 times each year, with stays varying between 10 days and 35 days, with a business visa. When I visit other cities, and my work contacts in those cities have to register my visa, someone actually does count the number of days I've been in Russia to see if I'm in danger of exceeding the max, so sometimes at least it's taken seriously.
I rent an apartment owned by a local and shop in nearby markets, cook in the apartment, etc. Presently, it's dirt cheap for me to live here.
There are a few members who post in the Moscow section who are basically expats. You might post your question there and see what their answers are to staying in Russia long term as well.
I'm in Piter now, January 2016. It becomes dark about 16.00 and light around 10.00, so your lucky to have 6 hours or so of sunlight. If it's overcast, it can seem dark the entire day. Piter weather is notoriously unpredictable and unhealthy, as it can be cold with high humidity, and this time of year the streets and metro, busses, etc are full of people coughing and hacking. Everyone in Piter complains about two things, the weather and Moscow. About a week ago it was +7c. Today it was -25 c. Moscow is hated because, well, basically it's a dump, the people there are obnoxious, and the metro is a labyrinth full of zombies, and, more to the point, every Russian not living in Moscow resents the fact that tax money is taken from their regions and sent to Moscow to try and make Moscow look good (a hopeless task). For example, when I was in a mid sized southern Russian city a few weeks ago, everyone was bitter about the fact that their city had no money for New Years decorations, because, so they claimed, the money had gone to Moscow to decorate Red Square...I can not agree more with your impression on Moscow and SP. I just come back from SP and Moscow, and my feelings is totally same, dark clouds all day long, but I think the biggest problem is still language! You may had some misunderstands even when you buy a train ticket at ticket office if you can not speak Russian.
ManchesterCat
01-08-16, 20:30
Hey guys,
As a newcomer to the world of mongering, I think I have overstretched in coming to Russia, where I'm not overly familiar with the language. My first day in SPB and I'm really struggling to organise anything with salons, outcall or anything of the sorts. Would really appreciate any help you more experienced guys could give. Thanks in advance, and I promise reports should anything eventuate!
What is the regular price for a hotel date with a hot girl from Maximus?
You cannot stay in Russia for a year or longer without leaving the country and reentering it. I'm too lazy to check the visa rules, but there is also a limit to the total number of days you can spend in Russia each year. I visit Russia 6-8 times each year, with stays varying between 10 days and 35 days, with a business visa. When I visit other cities, and my work contacts in those cities have to register my visa, someone actually does count the number of days I've been in Russia to see if I'm in danger of exceeding the max, so sometimes at least it's taken seriously.
I rent an apartment owned by a local and shop in nearby markets, cook in the apartment, etc. Presently, it's dirt cheap for me to live here.
There are a few members who post in the Moscow section who are basically expats. You might post your question there and see what their answers are to staying in Russia long term as well.
I'm in Piter now, January 2016. It becomes dark about 16.00 and light around 10.00, so your lucky to have 6 hours or so of sunlight. If it's overcast, it can seem dark the entire day. Piter weather is notoriously unpredictable and unhealthy, as it can be cold with high humidity, and this time of year the streets and metro, busses, etc are full of people coughing and hacking. Everyone in Piter complains about two things, the weather and Moscow. About a week ago it was +7c. Today it was -25 c. Moscow is hated because, well, basically it's a dump, the people there are obnoxious, and the metro is a labyrinth full of zombies, and, more to the point, every Russian not living in Moscow resents the fact that tax money is taken from their regions and sent to Moscow to try and make Moscow look good (a hopeless task). For example, when I was in a mid sized southern Russian city a few weeks ago, everyone was bitter about the fact that their city had no money for New Years decorations, because, so they claimed, the money had gone to Moscow to decorate Red Square.
This year it's been unusually warm in Piter, until just recently, with little snow. Usually there is snow and ice on the streets by this time and quite cold and often quite windy. In the summers it can be quite hot and, depending on where your staying, there can be a lot of tiny, aggressive, mosquitoes. Piter has suicidal mosquitoes. They will land on you, bite you, and stay biting you until they finish or until you kill them. For variation, you can go to one of the small islands and find giant mosquitoes. Which the locals claim were produced by all the chemical waste left on the islands over the years. Rumor has it one or more of these islands plays host to raves each summer.
As far as mongering goes, there are lots of posts in this section and in the Moscow section (the two cities most people go to) addressing various aspects of it. The situation may be trending pro-mongering however, as the extended slump in the Russian economy may be biting into "normal" people's budgets, and "normal" girls may start considering the occasional meeting with gift a go-to option, like it was back in the "day" before the Putin led recovery. A few hours ago I was able to exchange dollars for 74.3 rubles. The ruble has been trading in the 60's and 70's against the dollar now for about a year, and forecasts aren't good for 2016. Personally, I still use Mamba to find girls occasionally in Piter. In the completely un-scientific impression category, this trip it has seemed to me more girls replied on Mamba than previously, with prices being quoted as low as 5000r for 1-2 hours, though most of the girls who seemed to be independents and not some salon hustler wanted anywhere from 10-20000r.Amazing answer. I always thought ISG was a better travel guide than any other site.
Putologist
01-11-16, 11:31
It is BTW not olny HIV. Lets not underestimate papillovirus (that can lead to cancer in some cases), chlamydias, herpes etc. So I agree with you that the situation is serious.
Sleeping with prostitutes without a condom is a very high risk activity in Russia and I would say anywhere, and also deeply unethical (possibly more so than involuntary forced sex or sleeping with girls not of legal age). The idiots on ISG bragging about their BBFS to me sound more like feminist imposters trying to denigrate mongering. But I am afraid that is unfortunately not what they are.
Planning on a trip to SPG. Just wondering what hotels are recommended for taking girls (Girl friendly)? Also seeking advice on which clubs to hit for semi pro girls?
Hey guys,
As a newcomer to the world of mongering, I think I have overstretched in coming to Russia, where I'm not overly familiar with the language. My first day in SPB and I'm really struggling to organise anything with salons, outcall or anything of the sorts. Would really appreciate any help you more experienced guys could give. Thanks in advance, and I promise reports should anything eventuate!My first time in Russia, not a novice then, I got the taxi driver to ring, and then take me to the salon, he got me to the door and left me to it. Most taxi's have a brochure.
Johnny Drama
01-12-16, 03:40
My first time in Russia, not a novice then, I got the taxi driver to ring, and then take me to the salon, he got me to the door and left me to it. Most taxi's have a brochure.Pretty much the same method I used. The bellman at The W would call / confirm who's working and get the address, then I just plugged it into Uber and we were off. All of the Uber drivers even walked me to the door to make sure I made it. I also speak zero Russian.
Drama.
As a newcomer to the world of mongering, I think I have overstretched in coming to Russia, where I'm not overly familiar with the language. My first day in SPB and I'm really struggling to organise anything with salons, outcall or anything of the sorts. Would really appreciate any help you more experienced guys could give. Thanks in advance, and I promise reports should anything eventuate!Sorry if this reply comes too late. I would find a taxi driver who spoke some English, and pay him to help you call one of the Markiza salons or one of the Karamelki salons (perhaps from his own phone) and accompany you to the the door (not the door to the building, but the last door into the apartment where the girls are). Once you're in it is pretty much point and shoot, and it is not dangerous. There are several apps for getting reasonable taxis in Petersburg and I would use one of them to find a helpful driver.
I vaguely recall there was also a Russian guy on this forum a few months ago advertising guiding for mongers or something like that. Better to spend some money on someone like that than to go home empty-handed.
ManchesterCat
01-17-16, 11:57
After what started out as quite a struggle, I managed a few successful visit (despite the very little advice given despite the wonderful report by Cucumber), and as promised, here is the report. I'll classify this report with some information. First time in Russia, quite literally 0 Russian. Couldn't say Hi in Russian if my life depended on it. Will not be posting addresses or names of places or salons, PM me if you want the details.
First thing I did when I got here, buy a sim card (with help of translator) 3 GB for 250 RUB. Such a life saver, and in my experience, essential. The translator I got wasn't as helpful, as I never felt comfortable asking him for help anything mongering related. It certainly could work, it was just personally I did newest feel comfortable asking mine.
I started off messaging girls I found on Rusdosug (using proxies) but got no replies (even a few who listed being able to speak English, more on this later). I then tried calling a few salons in the area, also no use, as none I called spoke no English.
After calling a lot more salons, there were two that had madams who spoken English (I actually found three, but once I actually arrived at the address provided, the English speaking girl I spoke to was no longer there to provide me further instructions on how to actually get in, and I got the "no English" hang-up and had to just turn back). I also found messaging salons in Russian (literally google translating phrases) worked and got a few responses. A lot of madams complained to me later about how it was still difficult to understand my messages, but would recommend this to anyone who also speaks 0 Russian. Couldn't work out the full phone number of Markiza, so never was able to contact them. I ended up visiting all the Karamelki branches however.
The first salon I managed to visit was near Nevsky Pros, and the madam spoke good English, after a bit of getting lost, I made my way there. I had quite mixed experiences here, the girls on my first visit were really good (and I'm usually very picky). Sometimes there weren't many girls, my first time there was only 1 available, and 3 available the following time, 2 of which were stunners. I usually prefer petite girl next door type looks, but certainly don't mind a taller girl if she's got a good figure. The girl from the first time seemed new, open to kissing and extremely passionate and appeared to genuinely enjoy herself. Tall, skinny, but youthful look and long black hair. Her body wasn't as nice as the two girls the following time, but very nice. She didn't 'perform' as much, but I prefer it when a girl enjoys herself, great experience. The girls from the second time were both energetic, one even spoke a fair bit of English, so we chatted briefly afterwards, but neither offered FK. The other spoke no English, but more than made up for it in enthusiasm and energy. Both model like, tall and elegant, they were both wonderful. I kept being stunned by the English speaking girl; how stunning she was in just about every way, she seemed a little distant before we started but was very passionate once we started. She quite honestly, by far the most attractive girl I've visited on this trip. I went there one more time afterwards, and saw what must have been close to the full range of girls (9 in all), including the first girls I saw, and none of them other than her were that appealing. Damage: 5000 RUB an hour including CBJ, 1500 extra for BBBJ.
My second salon was a Karamelki branch. I went there earlier in the night after texting the madam for address (to which she replied and provided entire address and instructions succinctly in one text), she responded to other questions for a while, but once I arrived, she stopped replying and told me to return later at a specified time, prompting me that more girls would be free then. And she was right! When I returned, I think I got to pick from the whole lot! At least 6 girls to choose from, it was incredible! A smaller petite girl caught my eye, she looked blonde under the (lack of) light, but was a actually light brunette, Very tight body, and youthful look. I didn't pay as much attention to the other girls after that, but most were fit, tall brunettes who I would have been happy with. The girl offered a great performance, but also no FK, we talked briefly using my phone to translate, lovely girl. Damage: 4000 RUB and I gave a very small tip to the madam for putting up with my relentless messaging all night.
My other visits were usually in pursuit of specific girls who had caught my eye on the Karamelki website and it was a bit hit and miss. Most were as pictured (or very close to) and for some others, I can only imagine it had been some time since the photos had been taken. One who was advertised as a blonde was now a brunette (party girl personality, great English and good figure), another had clearly put on a bit of weight since the photo of and impeccable and petite figure was taken (but gave the best hand job of my life). In some cases the girl I had requested was no longer available and so I had to pick out of who was still available as I was often too embarrassed and / or lazy to leave without something to show for the trip out to the salon.
Also visited a strip club, and ended up spending nearly 4000 RUB. 1000 cover charge, 1000 on alcohol (beer for me and a Long Island Iced Tea for a English speaking girl who started talking to me) and 2000 on a hookah pipe. A few very attractive girls, and I was told taking a girl away for the night would be 20,000 30,000 depending on the girl and how busy it was. Decided it wasn't good value and never went back again.
I did also visit another salon right on Nevsky on my first night, there were two girls, neither appealing at all, so I simply left without any problems. Weirdly, another number I contacted for outcall service also pointed me towards the same salon. I politely declined based on the selection available when I went. But even weirder, the outcall number (who claimed to 'arrange' outcall) quoted a much higher price for even the incalls for the salon (from 3000 RUB advertised by salon, to 7000 original quoted price and 5000 when I called them out on it).
Another few pieces of advice for (other) newbies (/ summary of information already posted or available):
My personal experience is the outcall are harder to arrange (unless you have a relationship with the salon), and only one of the outcall I contacted (not too many, but a fair few) replied to my messages (google translated to Russian), and it turned out to be a bait and switch, though the second girl they sent (claiming the first girl was a mix-up) was okay, but not worth the higher rate. 7000 RUB. Salons often for a higher rate, have a longer min. Booking length or ask you to pay for taxi (or some combination thereof).
I had very little success with individuals through Rusdosug, but information on salons is useful, Rusprostitutes (usually the first website you find on google) was practically useless for me (it was where I found the bait and switch) and now I also think the prices are little bit unrealistic (in terms of rates quoted).
Persist, if you don't get many (or any) replies, keep looking, the market is out there, non-Russian speakers just have to work a bit harder. Getting a local to help would make things a lot easier, but I found no easy way to find someone (I didn't like the idea of just asking hotel reception, or asking just anybody, I really like the idea of asking the taxi driver, although I never got around to it / had the guts to ask).
Get a local SIM, it's so cheap and makes organizing things yourself without help possible. I personally found it useful to turn on request message status on my phone, to know which numbers were right / real and who I actually managed to contact (the regional codes are confusing!
If a site posts pictures of girls with their faces, it's probably a fake. Honestly, I was optimistic at first, but from experience, the ones with faces are all dead ends / bait and switch and the ones with blurred faces are usually real photos (I've certainly met ones who was advertised online)!
I ended up extending my stay in SPB, and am glad I did. Summarizing my experience: SPB isn't really a bargain basement destination (which I'm starting to feel Germany, Thailand and Romania may be more like from what I've been told / read). Based on prices in UK and other Western countries I'm familiar with, it's still quite cost effective. You can get girls that would usually be 'Premium VIP models' who might charge GBP200+ for just 5000 RUB. Hotels are also cheaper, but personally, although I want to come back, it's still not cost effective for a purely mongering focused trip (as I have to stay for a while to get my travel costs worth, you do your own maths). The city is however beautiful, and I thoroughly enjoyed my time here in general. In terms of quality, with a bit of persistence, there's some great quality girls. Yet to find my perfect 10 (as I'the hoped), but the girls here in general are very attractive, and I've certainly seen a few perfect 10's in the streets and cafes. I hope to come back in the future and try experimenting a bit more, but until then.
After what started out as quite a struggle, I managed a few successful visit (despite the very little advice given despite the wonderful report by Cucumber), and as promised, here is the report. I'll classify this report with some information. First time in Russia, quite literally 0 Russian. Couldn't say Hi in Russian if my life depended on it. Will not be posting addresses or names of places or salons, PM me if you want the details. Well done, braving the Russian scene can be extremely challenging for somebody who doesn't know the place or the language and you have demonstrated great tenacity. I also think your observations are highly astute.
Cucumber.
Couldn't work out the full phone number of Markiza, so never was able to contact them. I ended up visiting all the Karamelki branches however.
Just returned from a few weeks in Saint Petersburg.
I posted the issue concerning Markiza's phone numbers previously. The dialing code for all of the numbers posted on their web site is (921).
I figured this out, discovering that there was one page on the web site that included (921) with the phone number. Curiously, I note as I write this that they have removed (921) from their web site. I can't find it anywhere! Perhaps they are using this piece of information to filter out the non-local, non-russian speaking clients? In any case, I saw it as a puzzle to be solved.
Before figuring this out, I was attempting to use (812), the standard dialing code for non-cell numbers. After doing so, I got the impression that the owners of those numbers have NOTHING to do with salons and receive hundreds of non-russian callers.
(921) appears to be a default cell dialing code for business who use a cell number for their main business phone service. Megaphone seems to be by far the most common cell company they use. Then I started noticing adverts on buses, newspapers and elsewhere that only include 7 digits for their contact number. Much of the time, this seems to imply (921). This worked for me, for example, when calling an industrial parts distributor for work.
I found that once I called Markiza with a minimal amount of Russian language skills, they were happy to switch to SMS with both of us google translating the SMS on our cellphones to negotiate the arrangements.
Hope this helps.
Made the mistake of visiting this strip club today. It's on Nevsky pros, slightly ahead of Burger King. There is just a street board on the road and the club is a bit inside. There was a tall girl and a couple of other guys handling over flyers. Apart from the other high promises, she said the erotic massages are also available starting 2000 rubles. Paid the 500 as entry and went in. Club itself is small. There were 5 girls taking turns on the pole. After some time one girl sat next to me, speaking passable English. Soon she starts asking for a drink, which I avoid for some time. When I asked her for the massage, I got the first shock. It starts at 5000! I should have walked out then, but didn't. Tried bargaining with the price, she kept declining and kept asking for a drink. Finally when she understood that I would not shell out 5000, she went in and came back saying that as a special price of 3000, she would do the massage. I accepted, God knows why! Paid 3000 at the counter and was asked for 150 more for the sheet! What? Anyway, went in a private room undressed and she changed up to her panties. She started the massage by applying cream, but she did not know m of massage. She played with my tool a bit, but not much. After about 20 minutes, there was knocking on the door, and she said 'time is up'. Again what? She said that the time was less since it was for 3000!! Knew immediately that I've been had. While I tried to reason with her, it was with the know that it would not work. Being a non local, there seemed to be no point in fighting it out. May have only complicated things further. Kept cursing myself. When will I learn!
Back at my hotel on never start after the nightmare. Guys, please help. Am here till this weekend. Some pointers to massage, sex etc would help in overcoming this incident before moving on to Moscow.
Thanks a ton!
Just returned from a few weeks in Saint Petersburg.
I posted the issue concerning Markiza's phone numbers previously. The dialing code for all of the numbers posted on their web site is (921).
I figured this out, discovering that there was one page on the web site that included (921) with the phone number. Curiously, I note as I write this that they have removed (921) from their web site. I can't find it anywhere! Perhaps they are using this piece of information to filter out the non-local, non-russian speaking clients? In any case, I saw it as a puzzle to be solved.
Before figuring this out, I was attempting to use (812), the standard dialing code for non-cell numbers. After doing so, I got the impression that the owners of those numbers have NOTHING to do with salons and receive hundreds of non-russian callers.
(921) appears to be a default cell dialing code for business who use a cell number for their main business phone service. Megaphone seems to be by far the most common cell company they use. Then I started noticing adverts on buses, newspapers and elsewhere that only include 7 digits for their contact number. Much of the time, this seems to imply (921). This worked for me, for example, when calling an industrial parts distributor for work.
I found that once I called Markiza with a minimal amount of Russian language skills, they were happy to switch to SMS with both of us google translating the SMS on our cellphones to negotiate the arrangements.
Hope this helps.Tried called markiza (ligovsky) from both foreign and local SIMs.
http://markizaspb.org/index.php/saloon
956-08-93
The phone number didn't work from either phone (nb has previously worked fine from both)
Any ideas what is the correct (full) number to use?
Tried called markiza (ligovsky) from both foreign and local SIMs.
http://markizaspb.org/index.php/saloon
956-08-93
The phone number didn't work from either phone (nb has previously worked fine from both)
Any ideas what is the correct (full) number to use?And (921) 956-08-93, does it work? You need a dialing code in front of it.
Look on this page on the web site for the Prosveshenya location (sorry, wish I could post russian letters, but you'll have to figure it out) http://markizaspb.org/index.php/prosvet
(http markizaspb dot org slash index dot php slash prosvet)
Look on the upper right corner of the page and you will see (921) 956-08-93
Only on that salon location page you will see (921). Try using that (921) dialing code for the other locations also.
If on a Russian SIM card, I think the actual digits to dial on your phone would be 8-921-956-08-93
If on a foreign SIMcard, try +7 921 956-08-93
Not sure how to dial it from a Russian land phone but perhaps try doing a little net research or asking an english speaking local
I will be back over in a few months and will report back confirm this but that is what I recall I did on last trip.
It's been quite a bit of time since I reported on st Petersburg. I've been here a few times and also to other Eastern European countries shooting since my last report. I thought that I would write a brief report of my recent trip to spb here for those that are interested. A more detailed report of one of the scenes I put in the anal connoisseur section as it's an anal scene.
Friday evening I arrive in spb. First thing is to check into apartment and then get some food as I have a shoot next day it's an early night.
Saturday up for breakfast. For the last year it's been really cheap here for eating out and food. Unfortunately due to the ease of Russian girls getting to Europe and the number of rich guys prices have not decreased in dollar terms. What has happened is that there are far more girls wanting to shoot. As ever quality is variable but some of those girls you don't necessarily want straight away are the best in the sack. Today I'm shooting a threesome, it's classical sex which means no anal. The girls turn up. They both get a shower and change into requested clothes. High heels, short skirts and sexy underwear. We go to the bedroom and start shooting by the end of the scene I cum into one of the girls mouths and she swallows. End of scene 1 one blonde and one brunette. Both between 18 and 23. Life is good. Saturday night I meet a friend for a drink and then back to apartment ready for more shoots.
Sunday. Cameragirl turns up with blonde girl from yesterday at 2 pm. This is going to be a much longer anal scene that the day before. We do an interview at the beginning of the scene. This girl is good very open and interesting to talk to and it's a good start. This was going to be a long scene will be 50 minutes of film so we need to shoot over an hour of pure sex. Also I have asked for 2 cumshots and this was agreed. I'm not interested in photos just video. But take some behind the scenes shots on my mobile phone. We do 3 normal sex positions and then we move to anal. Another 3 positions here and about 30 minutes of film. Again I finish in her mouth which she swallows. We've gone on much longer than expected so I leave the second cumshot out of this scen e. She earnt her money with the anal hammering.
Monday. See the anal connoisseurs section for this scene in detail and pictures of the girl. Evening I get taken by some business contacts to the ballet. Spend most of my time watching the great blonde in front of me. Unfortunately she's with boyfriend, fortunately they are having a big argument, typical of Russians, unfortunately at the end of the performance she rushes out.
Tuesday. Rest day. Some sightseeing and off to club with friends meet a nice blonde there. She is interested and she comes back to mine. It helps to have learnt Russian over the years. Not great sex as we are both pissed. Wednesday morning a lot of aspirin and water. Followed up by a bit of viagra to get me through the scene. Hoping this cocktail won't kill me.
Wednesday. Another long anal scene with a girl who has shot for legal porno in Prague. An anal scene for 50 minutes is no problem for her. Interview at the beginning is ok. She tells me off camera that she just does porn for money not for anything else. I wonder what her boyfriend thinks when she comes back unable to sit down as she said she did from Prague. Again this is all said matter of fact. Tuesday evening one of my long standing girls in spb she's a retired porno actress Amanda comes over when I in spb. She doesn't discuss it and she is glad she has stopped. Sex with her is good as she's very soft and it's relaxing not like porn at all.
Thursday. Another rest day but I allowed the camera girl to use my apartment for her own shoots. A boy girl, solo and new casting. Always interesting to meet a girl for the first time before she's started shooting. I think she will be a star. Wants to shoot with her bg and solo scenes but she has such personality. Am sure she will move on to boy girl. The actor in the boy girl scene I worked with 3 years ago and we go out for a beer in the evening. Good guy to talk with.
Friday. Another boy girl anal scene. The girl is a bit cold but it's a good scene. She again has worked in mainland Europe but I pay far less than she would get there. I pound her ass for 25 minutes and finish the first cumshot on her face. The second on her tits. It is addictive. In the evening I went out with one of my firiends, his GF and a beautiful blonde his GF wants to set me up with. No sex tonight (not that I need it) but think it went ok. A lead for my next trip.
Saturday. The cameragirl comes over this time with one of the girls she only shoots in solo scenes. Neither want to be on film but for a bit of cash they are happy to have sex off it. Who can argue with that. After we spend 3 hours together I need to go. Off to tye airport and flight home. Back in home country I sleep for 2 days totally sexed out.
I try again. Please let me know what is a good deal here.
What is the regular price for a hotel date with a hot girl from Maximus?
I try again. Please let me know what is a good deal here.It varies but most quote $500 "all night" but it really isn't all night. I have taken 2 home from there. The norm seems to be, for that price, 3 hours give or take.
It varies but most quote $500 "all night" but it really isn't all night. I have taken 2 home from there. The norm seems to be, for that price, 3 hours give or take.Thank you Meesee.
This is quite expensive!
Do you or someone have some experience with private show? Can you get anything extra either in the room or in the shower?
Thank you Meesee.
This is quite expensive!
Do you or someone have some experience with private show? Can you get anything extra either in the room or in the shower?I've never gotten lucky in the private room but maybe someone else has been more fortunate.
While there are some real stunners there, most are to be completely avoided. I previously posted here someone else's recommendation of going in with a stack of Rub 1000 notes to tip the ugly throng but I didn't realize the exchange rate when I wrote it. Now I'm not sure what a reasonable tip is to get rid of them. Can anyone recommend? Rub 1000 seems like way too much (trust me, you'd have to see them to appreciate what I mean). Rub 100 ? Rub 500?
Dear mongers,
I am visiting St Petersburg in may and likely to be there for a month. Can some fellow mongered guide me about good night clubs where I can hitch a ride. Or some spas or saloons. I want to make maximum from this visit and want to make this memorable one. Will be staying in Nevesky Pros. Kindly help. I would be taking membership soon.
One of the porn girls I know in spb is looking for escort work in spb. If you are interested in meeting her let me know and just for information I am doing this as a favor for her. I will not get paid. If you DM me I can send more details but she is very early 20's, nice body with brunette hair.
Jonathan Pine
04-15-16, 21:10
In terms of dating potential, attitude of the girls, out of townees originally from the provinces. ? In terms of the freebies scene that is. Not P4 P.
Demographic deference between st Pete and Moscow? Ratio of young women, student population, etc.
Difficulty level making it in the city for young girls from the provinces? Is it easier in St Pete than in Moscow?
Any insights will be greatly appreciated, thanks!
It just seems to me lately that many of the girls I met hope to move to St Pete as opposed to Moscow after finishing uni. That is if they don't win the green card lottery to the US, hahaha.
CzarNicholas
04-16-16, 07:39
In terms of dating potential, attitude of the girls, out of townees originally from the provinces. ? In terms of the freebies scene that is. Not P4 P.
Demographic deference between st Pete and Moscow? Ratio of young women, student population, etc.
Difficulty level making it in the city for young girls from the provinces? Is it easier in St Pete than in Moscow?
Any insights will be greatly appreciated, thanks!
It just seems to me lately that many of the girls I met hope to move to St Pete as opposed to Moscow after finishing uni. That is if they don't win the green card lottery to the US, hahaha.JP,
I asked a follow up question to your post the other day about cost of living in re to Jakes post, I wish I could discuss this further with you?
Obviously this is just my opinion and if anyone has a different opinion that is great. I think a lot of the generalizations about the difference in the cities is actually seen in the girls. I have dated girls form both cities and I prefer the spb girls. Although in my own country it tends to be Moscow girls I date. Also it is not about where the girl is born but where she has chosen to live. There are a number of girls I know in spb who have chosen to move to Moscow and now I see the Moscow traits in them. Girls from Moscow tend to be more ambitious and harder headed than the girls in spb who are more cultural and more dreamers. I don't really notice a difference in beauty between the two cities. Although on more than one occasion I have met russian guys from Moscow in bars in spb who say the spb girls are reputed to be more beautiful than the Moscow girls.
As for students I think there is a higher proportion in spb per capita of population. It feels like every building is a university there. This gives plenty of opportunity for dating. Also spb is a poorer city so not so many oligarchs snapping up the girls. There are a lot of spb girls who do commute to Moscow for their sponsor.
I would always want to marry an spb girl over Moscow because I think they are more my type.
Thank you Meesee.
This is quite expensive!
Do you or someone have some experience with private show? Can you get anything extra either in the room or in the shower?I spent one night there with 3 or 4 of the best girls I saw in a private show. I think it was 4000 rub for 2 songs. Nothing else beyond the basic dance and a light grind was offered. All insisted that nothing else could be offered there. None of the hottest were willing to go back to the hotel. Several uglies tried everything to persuade me to accept their office for something back at the hotel but I wouldn't have any of them.
Other nights, I have had better luck taking them back to the hotel.
It's been quite a bit of time since I reported on st Petersburg. I've been here a few times and also to other Eastern European countries shooting since my last report. I thought that I would write a brief report of my recent trip to spb here for those that are interested. A more detailed report of one of the scenes I put in the anal connoisseur section as it's an anal scene.
Friday evening I arrive in spb. First thing is to check into apartment and then get some food as I have a shoot next day it's an early night.
Saturday up for breakfast. For the last year it's been really cheap here for eating out and food. Unfortunately due to the ease of Russian girls getting to Europe and the number of rich guys prices have not decreased in dollar terms. What has happened is that there are far more girls wanting to shoot. As ever quality is variable but some of those girls you don't necessarily want straight away are the best in the sack. Today I'm shooting a threesome, it's classical sex which means no anal. The girls turn up. They both get a shower and change into requested clothes. High heels, short skirts and sexy underwear. We go to the bedroom and start shooting by the end of the scene I cum into one of the girls mouths and she swallows. End of scene 1 one blonde and one brunette. Both between 18 and 23. Life is good. Saturday night I meet a friend for a drink and then back to apartment ready for more shoots.
Sunday. Cameragirl turns up with blonde girl from yesterday at 2 pm. This is going to be a much longer anal scene that the day before. We do an interview at the beginning of the scene. This girl is good very open and interesting to talk to and it's a good start...Wow man this is amazing when I grow up I want to be like you! Seriously. Maybe you can help me out I am debating a trip to either Saint Petersburg -Budapest. Bulgaria Sofia. I would really like to film my sessions for personal keeping hell if I could show for porn yeah. But there are rules, law to all. I would really like to have an experience like yours although I understand my contact limitations. You response will be greatly appreciated and if in Miami I'll make sure the beers are Ice cold as my ex wife's heart.
JackedPhoenix
05-02-16, 20:12
Hi there,
I'm in STP for some time and would like to get some good massages. Does anybody have any experience and can give some advice? Also does anybody have some experience with I-Spa?
Thanks for the help!
I visited saint Petersburg in June 2014 for 2 days didn't write report at that time as I was new to forum.
I take the cruise from Helsinki by Peterlines to st Petersburg, it took a night to reach SPB, I reached in morning, no visa required if you arrive by cruise and have multiple Schengen visa. After arriving get money from ATM took shuttle to city center, from there took taxi to my hotel Holiday Inn Moskovsky Vorota. It is a big hotel and girl friendly sometime you have take girls from outside the hotel to your room. I reached hotel and than started calling number from rusdosug website, I called a number which later I found of Eros club, the woman speak good English, and I asked her to send any good girl, so she send masha, an OK girl reached my room in 3 o minutes, it was 6000 for 2 hrs. Had 2 session but the girl was heavy smoker could not tolerate the smell.
After some hour and called the same number but this time asked about the girl from their page on rusdosug which I found from previous girl. She was 19 year old. She arrived after 1. 5 hrs as she was busy, she was indeed slim girl but had pimples on face which blurred on web page, had nice 2 sessions and let her go. Late in the night I went to the club XXX which was part of hotel but it was dead, than saw two OK looking girls in lobby tried to talk but they refused to talk. They were working girls but talked with only Russians.
Day 2.
I started to call different number but most hang up after listening English, than I booked a girl but she totally different when she come, send her back, after they send back 2 more girls. After these scams I searched for expensive girls and done a deal with a girl at 1200 for 2 hrs. She arrived in 30 min was same as pics, slim, had 3 sessions with her in 2 hrs and than she left good experience. After that I call another girl from Eros but send her back as she was very fat.
Day 3.
Took a city tour and than to cruise terminal back to Helsinki.
One of the porn girls I know in spb is looking for escort work in spb. If you are interested in meeting her let me know and just for information I am doing this as a favor for her. I will not get paid. If you DM me I can send more details but she is very early 20's, nice body with brunette hair.Sent you a PM but you never answer.
I visited saint Petersburg in June 2014 for 2 days didn't write report at that time as I was new to forum.
I take the cruise from Helsinki by Peterlines to st Petersburg, it took a night to reach SPB, I reached in morning, no visa required if you arrive by cruise and have multiple Schengen visa. After arriving get money from ATM took shuttle to city center, from there took taxi to my hotel Holiday Inn Moskovsky Vorota. It is a big hotel and girl friendly sometime you have take girls from outside the hotel to your room. I reached hotel and than started calling number from rusdosug website, I called a number which later I found of Eros club, the woman speak good English, and I asked her to send any good girl, so she send masha, an OK girl reached my room in 3 o minutes, it was 6000 for 2 hrs. Had 2 session but the girl was heavy smoker could not tolerate the smell.
After some hour and called the same number but this time asked about the girl from their page on rusdosug which I found from previous girl. She was 19 year old. She arrived after 1. 5 hrs as she was busy, she was indeed slim girl but had pimples on face which blurred on web page, had nice 2 sessions and let her go. Late in the night I went to the club XXX which was part of hotel but it was dead, than saw two OK looking girls in lobby tried to talk but they refused to talk..What agency or website did you use to book the "expensive" girl? I'm having a hard time finding a reliable agency? Can anyone recommend Missbliss? The pics look great but I figure they're fakes.
Planning on a trip to SPG. Just wondering what hotels are recommended for taking girls (Girl friendly)? Also seeking advice on which clubs to hit for semi pro girls?
Putologist
05-18-16, 15:32
Make sure to watch this video and read the article very carefully before you plan your trip to St. Peter because this is -unfortunately- what can happen to you:
https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8/410170/izdievatielstva_nad_inostrantsiem_v_pietierburghskom_bordielie_popali_na_vidieo
"Red Tarzan" and his team "raided" a brothel in Peter. There he found a Finn tourist, who was then humiliated by Tarzan and his raiders.
Also with the WGs inside the establishment there was not pardon, they even had to walk naked on streets of Peter as a sign of public shame.
I don't want to play a Captain SaveaHo here, but IMO this is pretty disgusting and for sure they don't deserve it, even despite the fact that prostitution is officially illegal in this country, nobody deserves this humiliation.
Jonathan Pine
05-18-16, 15:40
So this Red Tarzan wasn't a copper, he's a vigilante.
Yes you're right, this sickens me as well. I feel sorry for the Finn. Don't suppose he can sue the city government?
Make sure to watch this video and read the article very carefully before you plan your trip to St. Peter because this is -unfortunately- what can happen to you:
https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8/410170/izdievatielstva_nad_inostrantsiem_v_pietierburghskom_bordielie_popali_na_vidieo
"Red Tarzan" and his team "raided" a brothel in Peter. There he found a Finn tourist, who was then humiliated by Tarzan and his raiders.
Also with the WGs inside the establishment there was not pardon, they even had to walk naked on streets of Peter as a sign of public shame.
I don't want to play a Captain SaveaHo here, but IMO this is pretty disgusting and for sure they don't deserve it, even despite the fact that prostitution is officially illegal in this country, nobody deserves this humiliation.Now that was a crazy video! That guy "red tarzan" is apparently a guy named Vyacheslav Datsika.
Let the girls work! What a fucking bunch of lunatics. Here are some flattering pictures of Vyacheslav below.
I don't know how it is to monger in Russia or Eastern Europe as a minority (black, asian, middle eastern, etc), but with these guys running around I sure as hell wouldn't want to go there.
Apparently they went to another brothel after this and did the same thing.
Tip your devushka a little something extra tonight mongers!
Oh, and if you ever have the option to fight or run.. run. You don't know who you're fucking with, this guy could kill most people with his bare hands. He's an ex kickboxing and MMA pro. Scary shit!
Naked Gunz
05-18-16, 17:04
I don't know how it is to monger in Russia or Eastern Europe as a minority (black, asian, middle eastern, etc), but with these guys running around I sure as hell wouldn't want to go there.Scary shit!I don't go to Europe period, unless I'm paid to-much less Eastern Europe. The climate the refugees are creating is sheer racist pandemonium. My company sent me to a school in Germany and the police came rushing to the only Black guy on the plane to see where I came from. Of course I said "Libya. Where the fuck else would a (n*a) on a plane come from!" I read between the lines on the FKK forums that YOU GUYS don't want us fucking your women, so I didn't go-besides, it was to cold. I don't need to be disrespected, much less KILLED for a piece of azz anywhere in this world.
Vyacheslav is considered a big loon, even in Russia. He isn't representative of any kind of movement or threat to anyone, including mongers. He spent over six years in a Russian jail for burglary and then escaping from a psych hospital and had a colorful stay in Norway (where he met some kindred looney spirits) after he escaped from a Russian mental hospital. He was released from prison a few years ago. BTW the Norwegian doctors determined him to be "sane. ".
The same kind of loon exists in every country and the chance of meeting his kind hasn't gotten bigger in the last few years.
There definitely ARE more visible nationalists and xenophobes in Russia these days, but a big dose of "common sense" still works in avoiding them. Now if the economy continues its downward spiral and more and more Russians start suffering and Moscow ramps up the 'it's THEIR fault' (immigrants, Americans, etc) then watch out.
Your still more likely to have trouble with drunk football or hockey fans. And if you wander around off the beaten path in any Russian city (or any city for that matter) at night, well, stupid is as stupid does. Regardless of color or national origin.
The biggest red flag to mongering in any city is when the brothels or girls start asking what color someone is are or where they are from, and then rejecting them. When the people in the trade start refusing business because of a guy's color or national origin, then it's time to get the hell out or cancel your visit. So before pushing the panic button on Russia, wait to see such reports appearing.
I'd even go so far as to say being a person of "color" still works in your favor in a big city like Petersburg, especially if your going after the amateur/student girls and your American. Young Russian girls still have big fantasies in this regard (they listen obsessively to hip hop), and I'll leave it to the active imaginations here to fill in the big fantasy details.
Putologist
05-18-16, 23:29
Don't suppose he can sue the city government?Not really, because he was doing something illegal: to pay to have sex, theoretically a crime.
On the other hand this crime doesn't justify to walk down the Nievsky Prospekt totally naked, no way these bullies would force me to do it, they could beat the shit out of me, but no way.
Not really, because he was doing something illegal: to pay to have sex, theoretically a crime.
On the other hand this crime doesn't justify to walk down the Nievsky Prospekt totally naked, no way these bullies would force me to do it, they could beat the shit out of me, but no way.There's something not quite right about this.
In any brothel I have ever been to, there is ample security. How this "gopnik" ever got past the front door is a "red flag". This video is either a publicity stunt, or the brothel security was in on the deal. By the way, who do you think owns the brothels?
If this were a REAL raid on a REAL SPB brothel, Red Tarzan would be floating in Fontanka canal right now with his throat slit.
Jonathan Pine
05-19-16, 08:06
There's something not quite right about this.
In any brothel I have ever been to, there is ample security. How this "gopnik" ever got past the front door is a "red flag". This video is either a publicity stunt, or the brothel security was in on the deal. By the way, who do you think owns the brothels?
If this were a REAL raid on a REAL SPB brothel, Red Tarzan would be floating in Fontanka canal right now with his throat slit.Yes I completely agree with your theory, Jake. It's scary that these players involved coordinated a stunt like this.
Yes, who the hell do we think that owns the brother or pays protection money to?
I fear that as economy continues to spiral downward in Russia, there will be more "officially tolerated" stunt or shit like this against migrants or Westerners or whoever the enemy of the day might be.
Be careful out there boys. Getting pussies sure is getting tougher these days in the motherland.
Putologist
05-19-16, 11:17
Yeah, I also ask myself where are the bodyguards of the ladies? But I don't think the owners are involved in such stunt, simply because they are now losing money and will possibly face questions by the cops.
2 months ago Red Tarzan tried to do the same raid in a salon at Ul. Kranaya Presnaya, Moscow, but there the wgs "fought back" against the vigilanti and even managed to turn the table keeping him and his buddies on the passive role.
Yep, the Muscovite police had to intervene in order to "save the Tarzan from the wild jungle animals")).
And I wouldn't be impressed if, as we speak, the salon at Ul. Kranaya Presnaya is still up and running the business as usual, commemorating their own "den pobedy" against the fascists, lol.
But I must confess, it would be kind of weird to see naked people running down the Tverskaya, oh boje.
Having been to St. Pete several times I have never seen any real security in brothels. The door is always locked and that's what Red Tarzan had to break. Local SPB mongers could possibly confirm, but afaik there are no human guards in SPB brothels like in the wild 90's.
Why this raid was real? Well I think this guy is exactly as stable as wikipedia describes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viacheslav_Datsik.
There's something not quite right about this.
In any brothel I have ever been to, there is ample security. How this "gopnik" ever got past the front door is a "red flag". This video is either a publicity stunt, or the brothel security was in on the deal. By the way, who do you think owns the brothels?
If this were a REAL raid on a REAL SPB brothel, Red Tarzan would be floating in Fontanka canal right now with his throat slit.
Make sure to watch this video and read the article very carefully before you plan your trip to St. Peter because this is -unfortunately- what can happen to you:
https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8/410170/izdievatielstva_nad_inostrantsiem_v_pietierburghskom_bordielie_popali_na_vidieo
"Red Tarzan" and his team "raided" a brothel in Peter. There he found a Finn tourist, who was then humiliated by Tarzan and his raiders.
Also with the WGs inside the establishment there was not pardon, they even had to walk naked on streets of Peter as a sign of public shame.
I don't want to play a Captain SaveaHo here, but IMO this is pretty disgusting and for sure they don't deserve it, even despite the fact that prostitution is officially illegal in this country, nobody deserves this humiliation.The client in the video is Finnish. He's saying something like "this is a fucking bad thing", but I don't hear any panic in his voice. It's more like he's upset for his session being interrupted or being filmed and robbed.
Putologist
05-19-16, 13:55
The client in the video is Finnish. He's saying something like "this is a fucking bad thing", but I don't hear any panic in his voice.
It's more like he's upset for his session being interrupted or being filmed and robbed.The Norwegians didn't want him, maybe after the next escape he will try his luck in Suomi, now that he for sure has found a, lets say, nodding acquaintance, there LOL.
It would be funny and ironic if this Finnish customer would be the guy who decides about asylum for Russians.
Does anyone know of a salon in SPB that makes appointments by text message?
Hello everyone,
Planning a visit to SPB next month.
Please help me where to look for mongering.
I am kind into beauty.
No prob of budget.
Thanks in advance.
Maybe you can help me out I am debating a trip to either Saint Petersburg -Budapest. Bulgaria SofiaBetween all of those cities, I think you'll get the best "bang for the buck" (pardon my pun, pa DUM pum tsssss) in Saint Petersburg.
The quality in Peter is certainly going to at least match the other two places you ask about, if not exceed.
Does anyone know of a salon in SPB that makes appointments by text message?I found Markiza willing to SMS with me after I had initially set an appointment time by voice, primarily to overcome the language barrier.
Hey guys,
I just moved to SPB, I have read not to trust a few sites because of bait and switch. There's lots of stuff in this thread but some of it dates a while back. Any PMs on some updates sites would be greatly appreciated!
Hi guys,
Visiting SPB IN Jun-Jul for 30 days.
And want to make it big productive visit. I hope I am clear in conveying the point. Any seniors or locals, kindly give tips or contacts of independents in SPB. I have myself done some homework.
A site called vipsoski. Me, rusprostitue.com. Are they genuine and current. Kindly assist.
I didn't know that forum for worlds most beautiful place with most beautiful gals is so boring, dull and inactive. Someone wake up and help. Lanfing thete on 13th. Any pointers for independents, authentic WGs, salons, websites?
CumerBareback
06-12-16, 13:06
Rusdosug is always a good starting point, especially if you are in a hurry. There are several great girl also in Piter. If you have some more time, try to find on Mamba a semi pro.
Thanks bro. Downloaded mamba, rusdosug and vipsoski. Can see that mamba is social chat site. But query is what about authenticity of other two. Vipsoski seems too good for the price.
Rusdosug is always a good starting point, especially if you are in a hurry. There are several great girl also in Piter. If you have some more time, try to find on Mamba a semi pro.
Rusdosug is always a good starting point, especially if you are in a hurry. There are several great girl also in Piter. If you have some more time, try to find on Mamba a semi pro.I have talked to a few on mamba and try seem like regular non-pro women. How did you find semi-pro"s.
Partizanski
06-17-16, 18:15
During my last visit of St. Petersburg I rented my own apartment instead of booking a hotel, so I would feel more free to invite guests for the night. When checking some international directories I stumbled upon the profile of a gorgeous escort companion called Maya. I remember I found her profile when surfing the internet during my previous business trip in St. Petersburg at the beginning of the year. At that time I could not make it to a meeting, Actually, the blessing cold prevented me from doing much more that work, eat and sleep. And the only pleasure were some massage salons on Nevsky Prospect. Now summer and the famous White Nights; Belye Nochi had arrived, everything was different, the nice weather and the flirtatious setting and the sun kissed my hormones back to life. I definitely had to meet Maya and it turned out to be a great adventure. We agreed on a dinner date in a Georgian restaurant with many locals and the delicious Caucasus dishes served were really amazing The meeting with Maya went even beyond my highest expectations. What a magic Belye Nochi night it turned out to be. She a wonderful lady: gracious and well-groomed, witty sense of humor. And on top of it all: very beautiful and sexy with delicate Asian features and a body to die for. Check her pics on http://www.slavic-companions.com/international-erotic-services-nightlife/russia/st-petersburg-escorts-call-girls/maya and I rest my case. Despite her still young age she is very experienced, but in a nice way without the blase or cynical attitude that often comes along. And she knows what the world has to offer, thanks to her travel experiences. She just returned from a long trip to Asia and we found common ground in many topics for conversation. I will not write into detail what happened afterwards back in my apartment. But it was one of the best deserts I ever had. Pure passion, and all you may expect from a genuine GFE companion. I heard she is also sometimes in Amsterdam. I cannot wait to meet her again since this is another city I need to be for business so now and then. I start to love my job more and more.
During my last visit of St. Petersburg I rented my own apartment instead of booking a hotel, so I would feel more free to invite guests for the night. When checking some international directories I stumbled upon the profile of a gorgeous escort companion called Maya. I remember I found her profile when surfing the internet during my previous business trip in St. Petersburg at the beginning of the year. At that time I could not make it to a meeting, Actually, the blessing cold prevented me from doing much more that work, eat and sleep. And the only pleasure were some massage salons on Nevsky Prospect. Now summer and the famous White Nights; Belye Nochi had arrived, everything was different, the nice weather and the flirtatious setting and the sun kissed my hormones back to life. I definitely had to meet Maya and it turned out to be a great adventure. We agreed on a dinner date in a Georgian restaurant with many locals and the delicious Caucasus dishes served were really amazing The meeting with Maya went even beyond my highest expectations. What a magic Belye Nochi night it turned out to be. She a wonderful lady: gracious and well-groomed, witty sense of humor...Thanks for this informative write up man, this is definitely more of the classy wine and dine experience I'm more interested in the. Lets have fun and be done with it! I know, I know, not as high brow but we do what we can. I've been researching since I got into town and I've discovered quite a few websites. Its sad because I just moved here to Russia and back home in Denver I was reviewing providers and going through the list like crazy. But because of the language barrier here and the potential for scams / crazy mother fuckers waiting to jack you (I'm a big intimidating guy too! I've been reluctant to dive in. The thought of ever going near a Russian jail terrifies the shit out of me. But we do what we do! I've discovered this site (added extra spaces in website links for safety): HTTP: spb. Telki. Club / googlemap. Look at this location map. Seriously. There are sister sites like this here. And all you really need to do to find these kinds of sites is look for the hot girl that you know is fake, look up her # and you'll find all of these kinds of local websites. But I've never seen anything like this. I mean, damn. Nothing I've *ever* seen in the past 8 months investigating st Petersburg turned up these kinds of results. I would really love the mongering community here to chime in and let us know your thoughts. I've mostly been a lurker on these forums but I think this is something of interest for anyone who might be visiting. Probably a lot of flakes but if you look at the other sites. Here's the addresses for the bookmarks I have. If they have an interactive map (even the sister sites) they're no where near populated. (http: spb. Otsos1. Com <- a sister site of the one linked, http: yavamdam. Ru / new / <-- seems pretty legit but always questionable, http: spb. Rus-redclub. Com / en, another sister site for sure, HTTP: putana78. Com / - anyways I've found these just by doing the normal security checks I'd do back home in Denver on women and I didn't even do that much, there's a lot of questionable stuff and most of these have been able to safeguard themselves from google's image search quite well. Always search by the phone number provided and you'll find a lot of conflicting information on what you want to know but sometimes you'll find something. I've yet to dive in here because I'm usually out drunk as hell enjoying my new experience in a different culture but hey. I'll be jumping in soon!
If it looks too good to be true it is.
That's all you need to know about websites.
ImRickJames1
07-13-16, 12:52
Arriving SPB next week. Anyone know where I can find one that will be of help or how I could find one that won't balk at helping me find entertainment?
Visited SPB last month. Although great city to visit but in turns of mongering it may be very tiresome if you don't know Russian.
So my one day was lost without any action.
So contacted a guy where I took my Indian dinner.
He provided me a guy with car who knew Russian very well.
He took me to hotel where he paraded few girls who were little higher side of age as well weight so it was not type.
He than took me too some of saloons. Entry in to salon it self is like some thriller movie.
Each gate is password protected. When you call salon owner they will provide password.
In one such place chose a girl on younger side.
She asked me to take bath first so may be hygiene part was better.
Act was bit mechanical.
Didn't allow lip kiss.
Blow job was covered.
Took her in doggy.
Over all average experience.
Putologist
07-20-16, 06:06
He than took me too some of saloons. Entry in to salon it self is like some thriller movie.
Each gate is password protected. When you call salon owner they will provide password.
I see what you mean. But this is just to protect their establishments against the increased police raids from the last months like you can see here www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiIUXTNErBU and here (http://www.ntv.ru/video/1294347/); so this is in no way to make our mongers life difficult. And they also don't want to expose themselves too much to wanabee vigilantis or angry neighbors. Tough Life.
Jonathan Pine
07-20-16, 09:14
I see what you mean. But this is just to protect their establishments against the increased police raids from the last months like you can see here www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiIUXTNErBU and here (http://www.ntv.ru/video/1294347/); so this is in no way to make our mongers life difficult. And they also don't want to expose themselves too much to wanabee vigilantis or angry neighbors. Tough Life.Several years ago prostitution was so out in the open. Even on the streets. The famous tochka, etc. So why are they cracking down on prostitution now? I doubt it's because they've suddenly become superior moral beings. This is fucking Russia for crying out loud!
So how does cracking down on sex trade benefit their current political agenda or local elites? I can't see how. Anybody knows?
I see what you mean. But this is just to protect their establishments against the increased police raids from the last months like you can see here www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiIUXTNErBU and here (http://www.ntv.ru/video/1294347/); so this is in no way to make our mongers life difficult. And they also don't want to expose themselves too much to wanabee vigilantis or angry neighbors. Tough Life.Yes bro I can understand. They were extra careful all the time.
Blow job was covered.
Took her in doggy.
Over all average experience.Unfortunately covered blowjobs are the norm in SPB. It is possible to get uncovered in certain salons.
If it's important for you. Ask for 'minet bez preservatif' but you could go to quite a few before you find a girl who will say yes.
Here's a girl I was curious to meet (photos look too good.), but, unfortunately, she wrote she wouldn't be available until after August 5.
She also wrote that she only meets in hotels and prefers meeting Russian men, but I took those as guidelines and not rules.
http://www.mamba.ru/mb1548895376?hit=3
She gave me a phone number.
Again, I didn't meet this girl. Just chatted with her on Mamba, and we didn't have a discussion on the particulars (price, etc.).
She only speaks Russian, but if all you want to do is discuss a meeting a translator might work.
Several years ago prostitution was so out in the open. Even on the streets. The famous tochka, etc. So why are they cracking down on prostitution now? I doubt it's because they've suddenly become superior moral beings. This is fucking Russia for crying out loud!
So how does cracking down on sex trade benefit their current political agenda or local elites? I can't see how. Anybody knows?Honestly JP, I am surprised at you. You KNOW the answer to this. Cracking down on prostitution is about money; nothing else. As we all know, Russia is a petro economy. So when the oil price is down, there is less money sloshing about, budgets get cut and the "skim" gets thinner and thinner. By the time it trickles down to the lowly Millitsia, (sorry, it's now called Policia) there's fuck all left. Raiding known Salons is one of their only source of extra income left. Believe me, they don't like it any more then we do. But hey, what's a poor working stiff to do? Shaking down the proprietor of the salon and "threatening" a raid only goes so far. Sometimes, you need to perform a little demonstration to let them know you are serious. It's just unfortunate that the poor sex tourists get involved and humiliated. Let me assure you, these raid have nothing to do with morals or politics.
I have talked to a few on mamba and try seem like regular non-pro women. How did you find semi-pro"s.I have the same confusion actually, chatted with some gals, seems no pros.
Hi fellow mongers,
Just returned from heaven. What a satisfying trip. Some tips and guidelines.
Download google translator. Two pronged help. One can translate English to russian and same can be used for chatting. Also has picture translator and audio translator. Which will help you on streets.
Download Mamba and badoo. Good social chat sites and keep on liking the gals. Probably some additional money required to charge or buy some special packages of respective sites like coins etc.
I could manage gals on both who were ready to come to hotel. And economical rates. Going rate is 5 K-7 k in hotel for couple of hrs and 3 k in their apartment for an hour.
Found one or two sites also where in in call is available. MARKAZA and Carmel. Above that befriend a taxi driver and he would do the needful. Could manage in 2 K for an hour too.
What else. Try FIDEL and other joints in Dumskaya street. If you are lucky, you can find pick up, nice English speaking gals available there. However, its a disc and karaoke street.
Orchad spa is another classy place for good relaxing and happy ending massages. Others, on nevsky prospekt, I found to be below average.
Happy mongering guys.
Unfortunately covered blowjobs are the norm in SPB. It is possible to get uncovered in certain salons.I found the same. No problems getting one at markiza or carmel. Just request at the beginning and pay an extra 1000. Worth it.
It is an all-she-can-eat for that price.
Hi fellow mongers,
Just returned from heaven. What a satisfying trip. Some tips and guidelines.
Download google translator. Two pronged help. One can translate English to russian and same can be used for chatting. Also has picture translator and audio translator. Which will help you on streets.
Download Mamba and badoo. Good social chat sites and keep on liking the gals. Probably some additional money required to charge or buy some special packages of respective sites like coins etc.
I could manage gals on both who were ready to come to hotel. And economical rates. Going rate is 5 K-7 k in hotel for couple of hrs and 3 k in their apartment for an hour..Hey Tia,
Thanks for the good report.
I'm heading to Peter tomorrow for 3 weeks, I have just realized that I'm staying almost in the same building as Orchad spa (14 A vs 14 B on Kuznechyy per). Small world, uh?
No need to mention that I will certainly drop by.
Do you have any particularly good masseuse to recommend?
Thanks
Dear forum members.
I will be in SPB the second week of September and was interested in any member's experiences with XM Spa. The website is een.xxxmassage. Ru I have read others write about Orchid and I will check that out but any input on XM Spa would be great. It looks like they might offer more than just massage.
Also, does anyone have an experiences with the Angelterre Hotel on Malaya Morskaya for working girls or is it working girl friendly?
Thanks in advance.
Dear forum members.
I will be in SPB the second week of September and was interested in any member's experiences with XM Spa. The website is een.xxxmassage. Ru I have read others write about Orchid and I will check that out but any input on XM Spa would be great. It looks like they might offer more than just massage.
I have written about them previously.
My first visit two years ago was with a reall stunner who offered to go full service near the end of my 90 minutes.
5 visits since have not been so successful, so you can't expect more than the basic tantra.
I requested 90 minutes 4 hands about a year ago. It was very mechanical while the 2 girls focused on personal chit chat in Russian about their personal lives. Most disappointing.
I can't think of a better place if all you want is a basic massage.
I have written about them previously.
My first visit two years ago was with a reall stunner who offered to go full service near the end of my 90 minutes.
5 visits since have not been so successful, so you can't expect more than the basic tantra.
I requested 90 minutes 4 hands about a year ago. It was very mechanical while the 2 girls focused on personal chit chat in Russian about their personal lives. Most disappointing.
I can't think of a better place if all you want is a basic massage.Meesee,
Thanks for the info I didn't search but I should have. Rub and tug is good for me if the girl is hot enough. Had a great time at Vanilia in Moscow. If this is similar then I would be good.
Thanks, Fred.
Made my way to Orchid Massage around 5 pm and they had 5 girls to choose from. None of the girls on their website were available but I did choose a red head named Julia. I was given the choice of a regular oil massage for 4200 rub or a soap massage for 4900 rub and both were for 60 minutes. Julia was your girl next door type, cute and in decent shape. The soap massage is a new experience for me and they use what looks to be a pillow case and a bucket of warm / hot water to suds up and make it a big amount of suds / bubbles. Julia had me lie on a cotton sheet that was on top of a thin foam sheet that rested on a nice heated tile platform. She poured the soap on me and started the full body massage. It was about 20 minutes of back massage and then 20 minutes of frontal where she rubbed her self all over me. It was nice and she was in the reverse cow girl position as she was stroking me and I could see her pussy full on. It was quite nice and once I came she continued to massage my cock and it was really quite intense and nice. So, all in all, a nice and relaxing 60 minutes for 4900 rubs. I would do this again for sure.
This is my first time to St Petersburg. From other posts suggested the site karamelki shows real pic. So I tried it which Google to http://karamelki-spb.org/ . I made many calls to the numbers which water marked on the gals picture but most of them cannot be connected. Then, turned to Rusdosug, some gals do not speak English, until there is one who answered my call speaking a bit English and I requested the address by SMS. Arrived there in 30 minutes, the pic is fake and there were four gals to pick. All of them are just so-so, just pick one looks young, a bit fat and not pretty. Not very satisfactory, how can I get a higher quality gal?
I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.
But those days are over.
It's been a slow slide. The prices went up over the years and the quality has been in a death spiral. SPB has always been the ugly sister compared to Moscow and maybe with the harder economic times the better looking girls have migrated down to the city where the traffic never sleeps.
Because they are sure not here now.
Don't get me wrong, it is still a whole level above the BS that you're going to get in almost every other country, but this club is called Maximus because that's the level of pushiness you're going to deal with. By the time you sit down you will have four girls surrounding you interrogating you with the same BS questions you'll always get. Where are you from, have you been here before, where are you staying.
The next time I go to these places I swear to god I am going to either wear a fucking sign around my neck with the top 10 questions pre-answered or I am going to bring a stack of printouts to hand out to them when they start asking. It is not so bad if you get one girl approaching you over 30 minutes, but in a place like this the effect is one of throwing a cup of bloody flesh into a tank of starving piranhas.
The local girls are, if you're lucky, slightly below the girl next door to a bit above the girl next door. Russian girls are getting fatter now with their McDonald's and Starbucks and quadruple sugar creme coffees or whatever the hell they drink. Juice juice juice, someone needs to tell them that Juice is just sugar water. Better off drinking vodka.
Anyway when you're lucky you will get some girl from Belarus who is trying to swim upstream and she will stand out from the crowd in a joint like this in SPB. She hasn't made it yet to Moscow and she won't be as pushy or annoying as the local girls. 6 years ago the best of this crowd would be the ugliest girl in the bar. 6 years ago in Kiev none of them could get a job in a club like this.
I will hold out some hope for Moscow, the world is painting me into a corner, everywhere I turn there are dancing hippos on tables asking me for money. I can tell you this though, I point the finger straight at Instagram, where any half pretty girl can post some selfies and our friends living close to the equator with too much money, too much sand, and not enough of anything else will throw tens of thousands of dollars at them. I fired off a message almost at random to some girl on instagram suggesting some money and she said she doesn't lift a finger for $1500 and if you wanted to spend 12 hours with her then you should come up with $3000. This for her is regular and normal and she was barely cracking 8.
Any half pretty girl can pick up a phone and make some selfies and with filters and photoshop and the right pose look about twice as good as she does in the real world and these jerkasses start throwing around money that can feed a small village at these girls in order to get a few hours of their time. Or at least they will claim to and set expectations in these girls heads.
Don't even think in this world about normal dating. They will check your watch, check your shoes, check your car, find out what you want to spend on them and that will cost you far more than buying them for the night. On a website that will not be named a girl who was a bit better than average suggested she wanted $25,000 per month to be a girlfriend. That my friends equates to $300 k of after-tax income.
Do you have $500 k of pre-tax income to devote to a nice looking girl to hang around, be upset, yell at you, be forever in need of some extra crap over and above her salary? While she drops phones, smashes cars, knocks glasses of water over your laptop and accidentally sets your backup disk on fire? Bringing these girls into your life is like opening the door and asking a category 5 hurricane to please come in and make itself at home. And they want to be PAID for it.
Thank you Instagram where any reasonable girl can have 100,000 men panting over the prospect of maybe being blessed with the opportunity to lick the soles of her shoes.
The only justice is that for them it lasts such a short time and there is another crop just around the corner that will be even more media savvy then them. Who is going to give a flying fuck about your selfie or that picture of your lunch when you're 34?
Maybe in the end the world will balance out but for now it sure feels like there is more money than there are beautiful girls, and those beautiful girls are sure as hell no dummies. They have followed the cash, and that cash is not in a strip club. Nope, now everyone is a thousand dollar an hour hooker and Instagram brings them a thousand customers a day, offering private jets and trips to the Seychelles and a credit card to fill all those Dior and Chanel bags with crap to post right back on Instagram again. Why their parents never clue in is beyond me.
I weep.
Another city off my list. Once you've seen the buildings, there really is not any reason to return. Plus, there are pictures of this place on Instagram.
I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.
But those days are over.
It's been a slow slide. The prices went up over the years and the quality has been in a death spiral. SPB has always been the ugly sister compared to Moscow and maybe with the harder economic times the better looking girls have migrated down to the city where the traffic never sleeps.
Because they are sure not here now..OMG, you seem very unhappy these days. Sorry about that, I hope you get back to more optimistic thoughts soon.
I agree that there are many girls in the "sugar Daddy" league that you describe, but, to be fair there are others as well, not necessarily in SPB, for less.
Anyway, you are right, I go to SPB, not only for the buildings, but also the museums, the palaces, the gardens, the opera and ballet at the Mariinski. Not topics for this forum, I presume.
Cheers.
SanGaetano
10-03-16, 11:28
I've been in and out of SPB for some years... Unfortunately I have to agree with you.
The level of prettiness among the WGs has been falling in the last few years, plus the level of Gold-digging among "non WGs" is rapidly growing.
But don't make too many hopes about Moscow being better then SPB man, I live here and I've seen the development myself.
I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.
But those days are over.
I couldn't agree more. I have only been going to SPB for about three years and have seen the change just in that time. My last trip to Maximus was a real dogfest of girls pleading for the $500 "all night" back at my hotel (=quickie). And the one and only stunner I met that whole night was from, yes, Belarus.
What little time spent in Moscow, they are more expensive and nowhere near the quality as SPB.
I am still finding some success at the salons for now but when that dries up, and it will, then will probably pack this endeavour in that city as well.
I couldn't agree more. I have only been going to SPB for about three years and have seen the change just in that time. My last trip to Maximus was a real dogfest of girls pleading for the $500 "all night" back at my hotel (=quickie). And the one and only stunner I met that whole night was from, yes, Belarus.
What little time spent in Moscow, they are more expensive and nowhere near the quality as SPB.
I am still finding some success at the salons for now but when that dries up, and it will, then will probably pack this endeavour in that city as well.Ahhhhh yeah these girls. The all night promise. Love that line.
In Moscow now, I may pass by night flight just to say no to all the robots in there. There is some pleasure in that. If you go with one of those girls you are in for one of the most mechanical fake experiences of your life. It's like punching yourself in the face for $500.
I don't know what is setting the low bar entirely other than Instagram. I have checked with high level agencies that are a major pain in the ass to just begin to talk to. But you see legit photos and real girls. The thing is, they are pretty much real girls. Some of them are model quality but. 3,500 euro for a couple of hours? If they are asking it, someone is paying it. But for the most part it is your fairly average kind of girl, not bad looking, someone you'd be pleased to talk to in a club and date but would you fork over $1500 for spending a couple of hours with her? Probably not. Because once all the makeup and clothes are gone, she's just a girl. And nothing special. It's not like these girls are great in bed all the time. So that's the risk you take.
All I can imagine is that our southern neighbors with their fetish for blondes and their need for status symbols blow out this money and they really do not care. What they got is the headgame bonus. *I* am with *this girl* who otherwise would not be giving me the time of day. It's like a watch or a Ferrari or anything else. But it's an empty experience, no fun, no laughs, no nothing. And when you take away the makeup, the hairstyle, the instagram filters and the perfect poses, with sideways hips and standing on the toes, really it's not that beautiful a girl after all.
They are winning this game, the girls that is, not us.
OMG, you seem very unhappy these days. Sorry about that, I hope you get back to more optimistic thoughts soon.
I agree that there are many girls in the "sugar Daddy" league that you describe, but, to be fair there are others as well, not necessarily in SPB, for less.
Anyway, you are right, I go to SPB, not only for the buildings, but also the museums, the palaces, the gardens, the opera and ballet at the Mariinski. Not topics for this forum, I presume.
Cheers.That indeed is the true reason to visit that city. If you get the girls out of your head it is a great place. Factor in the girls and. You ruined your vacation.
I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push. But those days are over....I think that is a great description of what is going on in Russia, and to some extent around the world. But I am surprised that you write this specifically about Petersburg. I would say Petersburg is way better than Moscow for brothel hopping, lower prices, more attractive girls, and above all friendlier and more sincere girls (relatively speaking).
Zavist is a first chain of men bars, with a wide range of entertainment opportunities and pleasures, starting from easy flirting up to erotic show and seductive beauty of a women body. Each place has its own atmosphere and charm, and its own specific entertaining thematic programs:
Show-bar. A night club atmosphere, you can enjoy gorgeous show and party hard.
Strip-bar. A true striptease and a private foam-show in jacuzzi.
Lounge-bar a comfortable lounge rest in the pleasant female company.
Topless-bar. Nearly all staff reveals the beauty of the female body.
Cabaret-bar. A show program and seductive private dances.
Gentleman-bar. A new format of the men's entertainment.
A large choice of drinks, shakes and cocktails is at your service. Not to mention hookah and snacks, private VIP zones, entertaining karaoke, spa rooms and a crazy-menu.
Zavistbar? What a surprise I've been in this strip bar recently. My friends wanted me to see more then Hermitage in this city so we spent a night here. Passionate girls haunted my eyes, beckoning with their bodies. I didn't even know Zavistbar is so famous though it was really impressive.
I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.
But those days are over.
It's been a slow slide. The prices went up over the years and the quality has been in a death spiral. SPB has always been the ugly sister compared to Moscow and maybe with the harder economic times the better looking girls have migrated down to the city where the traffic never sleeps.
Because they are sure not here now.
Don't get me wrong, it is still a whole level above the BS that you're going to get in almost every other country, but this club is called Maximus because that's the level of pushiness you're going to deal with. By the time you sit down you will have four girls surrounding you interrogating you with the same BS questions you'll always get. Where are you from, have you been here before, where are you staying...Your opinion is really true. When I read it I remember all those moments that I experienced. You can buy a girl in this town, but unfortunately, not love. Bitter truth!
I remember I felt myself really young when I visited this Russian strip bar Zavistbar It was Sadovaya street in the very center. Zavist is a Russian word but I understand the meaning of this word cause the beautiful girls and the relax in this bar. Really want to envy. Russian people are very generous. Luxury snacks and caviar and drinks. Amazing! If once I'll get in this city go there again.
SteveBertrand
02-12-17, 13:02
I remember I felt myself really young when I visited this Russian strip bar Zavistbar It was Sadovaya street in the very center. Zavist is a Russian word but I understand the meaning of this word cause the beautiful girls and the relax in this bar. Really want to envy. Russian people are very generous. Luxury snacks and caviar and drinks. Amazing! If once I'll get in this city go there again.Wow! I'm actually is looking for something like this for good evening after working day. You mean this one http://zavistbar.com? I'm really nearby now.
Hi all,
So I'll be moving to St. Pete in 2017 and was wondering if any mongers on the forum are living there? Would love to meet up if there are some. I've been on this website a long time and have lived all over the world. Looking forward to my time in Russia.
So finally got to try out Russia for my first time. And pretty much everything that could go wrong wen't wrong haha! But I loved it.
Arrived at airport and went straight to buy sim card to make everything easy. But it turned out my fecking phone was locked to my operator in Sweden (which was weird because I have been changing operator. Ironically Tele2 is kinda big in Russia and I just changed from that in Sweden. Duh. I immediately thought damn this was really bad because the list of roaming costs I got on SMS from my operator was expensive. But at least I could use roaming whenever I needed, right?
No not in Russia. For some reason it refuse to connect with 3 G /4 G and I can only make SMS and calls.
By now I start realizing this expert level country is going to be bumped up to master level, or more.
My first evening I had a set dinner date and even that turned out to be a hassle because she was ofc very late (even after rescheduling the dinner). And as soon as I left my hotels WiFi I was out in the dark.
Some WiFi in the city did work but some don't. This is because again you need to enter your phone number to get a pin code and unlock the "free WiFi". My operator is obviously garbage. The first thing I will change when coming back (Tele2 here I come again). However being at a high end restaurant really opened my eyes to how many nice looking ladies there are. Even coming from Stockholm it felt like a lot (usually everyone is sub-par to Swedish beauties).
Since my dinner date was a non-pro I won't bring up details from that. But she were 20 years old an tall and slim. Having her own central apartment. Think her parents had deep pockets.
Next day I decided that even though everything got so mixed up in my preparations I just had to try mongering. For some reason I love the challenge and after all the hunt in itself is one of the best parts in my book.
Started googling around (again) like crazy and sites like rusdosug. Ru was OFC blocked on the DNS level. Tried VPN to get around it but no luck. Found these forums that I somehow missed when I read thru ISG before and got very interested in Chika / Cheeky:
https://forum.amurspb.net/index.php?showtopic=71706&st=2640
So prepared my translator app for offline mode and the basic questions I needed. Along with phone numbers (to several places as backup) and their names. When I wanted my hotel to fix a taxi for me they pushed to know where I was going. And I had to argue that I wanted to talk with the taxi driver where to "drive me around". Really weird but after a while they finally ordered a normal taxi. Turned out the taxi driver spoke at least a fair bit of English and he called the Chika / Cheeky places for me to find out the address. And I thought finally my luck is turning, but no.
This weekend was the Soldiers holiday and now the place only took bookings for the next day. So wen't for my last option to let the driver fix a place and he OFC knew where to start calling to meet a girl. He asked me if I wanted "good girls" or "normal girls".
The good places he said cost 5000 RUB / h and that was fine for me. Told him I wanted 2 h with a very good girl.
When we arrived I gave him a tip and he helped me up to the door (just like previous reports). It really is like a thriller movie passing the heavy metal doors like someone mentioned here. My taxi driver told me this building were over 300 years old and one of the first built in SPB. There were only a handful of girls and quality "OK". But very slim ones and two spoke pretty good English. The place was next to a strip club too.
Took 2 h plus some champagne. There were no real extras offered by my chosen girl so I thought this is going to be really mediocre. But at least I'm helping out the local economy a bit.
We agreed to have sex 2 times during this time which was no problem at all. Kinda standard but at the same time she did deep throat and I could pound away in any position I wanted. She really seemed to like it starting to stimulate herself when I went hard in doggy style. Mind you that she probably weighed in on 45 kg and were 168 cm tall. Very nice skin, thick long hair and ye slim by the very meaning. This is my favorite build in ladies.
So overall was a decent pound for sure. The sight from behind with her little pussy looking to get ripped in two was a sight to behold. And it was very wet too! Only sad thing was the no-anal rule she had. After my two times I hooked in to their WiFi and ordered a Uber and headed out in the darkness.
Funny thing was that when I was leaving the owner were watching cameras waiting for a bunch of hooded guys that camped outside the door before letting me out. And she talked about "police" to the girl and they seemed nervous. So it hit my mind that this master level could even go higher to god-level of difficulty for me.
Luckily they left after a while. Master level was after all enough for me to handle.
As people have mentioned before going to SPB plainly for mongering reasons is not recommended unless you have a decent level of Russian.
But the opportunities are very high and I really liked the challenge and risk-reward offered. Not to mention that everything is very very cheap. Probably not true for Moscow. Luckily I will come back in a month from now and I can't wait. Dunno why I loved it so much but I guess rough and hard environment is up my alley.
Been to Ukraine many times and almost every East European country. Except for Prague which is a easy and cheap mongering place SPB is now my absolute favorite. Even though it's by far the hardest place I've been to (especially when you fuck up like I did in my preparations).
On a side note I stayed at Petro Hotel which I can recommend for a cheap 4 star conveniently in the center. Quality was very good and spacious for a deluxe room. Would be perfect for a outcall session. Got 4-5 m in ceiling height and nice architecture.
No card for elevators if you manage to get a outcall.
Restaurants are open late, 01.00 or later in most cases. The expensive one usually state "until the last guest leave". Not on par with Kiev where many have 24/7 with sleeping chefs in the joint. Still better than most of Europe.
There were also some kind of 90 ies-retro-festival going on in Russia that were on all TV channels and people were singing bad Eurovision-90 ies-shit everywhere. Which hurt my fine ears a fair bit.
I texted (in Russian) probably 20+ numbers from my foreign number and not a single one answered. Except 1 of the Whatsapp numbers I texted. But they were closed.
Got some help from a nice fellow punter here on the forum to get in contact with a girl that new pornstars and such. But unluckily she never answered my emails before I got here. So maybe better luck next time I come!.
Felt kinda safe in the evenings / night time. Even when walking around in a expensive cashmere coat and black diamonds. Never even saw anyone I would label a "thug".
Now back to my Russian studies. And I can already see the potential of getting a even hotter girlfriend here than I had in Kiev, Riga and Tallinn before! Next time Mother Russia won't kick me in the ass. At least not this hard; the (But I loved it).
Friedrich From
02-28-17, 22:13
Hello,
Any recent information about opportunities to meet some working girls in Corinthia Hotel and around?
What is the most recent rate for a lobby girl for hour of room stay in the city?
Reggie Bush
03-04-17, 22:39
I've been on this site for many years, and other sites like this even longer. Every now and then I check out other forum locations to see what's going on in that part of the world. I've checked this forum over the years from time to time as well.
And this post, is by far one of the best posts I've ever read anywhere. Really. Props to Protocol. I don't know if you meant it or not, but your discussion of the ladies and scene in SPB (which I've never been to), touched on so many social / societal / economic ills, and in such a simple manner.
A tip of the cap to you Protocol.
I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.
But those days are over.
It's been a slow slide. The prices went up over the years and the quality has been in a death spiral. SPB has always been the ugly sister compared to Moscow and maybe with the harder economic times the better looking girls have migrated down to the city where the traffic never sleeps.
Because they are sure not here now.
Don't get me wrong, it is still a whole level above the BS that you're going to get in almost every other country, but this club is called Maximus because that's the level of pushiness you're going to deal with. By the time you sit down you will have four girls surrounding you interrogating you with the same BS questions you'll always get. Where are you from, have you been here before, where are you staying....
Hello fellow mongers,
I am going to SPB in July / August and any recommendations for private pick ups (& maybe English classifieds) very much welcome.
My Russian is very very basic. But I believe I could express what I want and negotiate.
Cheers and thank you.
S.
Am currently in SPB. Will post report more fully later but let's say I'm having fun. Anyone around happy to meet up for a drink.
Am currently in SPB. Will post report more fully later but let's say I'm having fun. Anyone around happy to meet up for a drink.Hi Jonners,
Yes indeed it looks like you are up to your old tricks. Sadly I am in Dubai for a while otherwise would be happy to join you for a drink. Have fun!
Hi guys,
Am currently spending a few days in SPB in Park Inn Pulkowskaya hotel, and the activity at the hotel bar has been leaving me quite confused so far.
On late evenings there are usually 1-3 single ladies in the bar, but they seem completely uninterested in the male patrons. One is usually standing at the bar, chatting with the service staff, another one sitting in a dark corner.
Yesterday I stood at the bar ordering a drink, when a lady just came in and chatted me up, introducing herself as Maria. After 5 min of friendly banter, when I expected a sales proposition she just excused herself, saying she had something to discuss with her friend. Then she joined the girl in the dark corner and didn't come back.
Do they work in a different sector? (Maria claimed to do tours of SPB by night.) Does the hotel have a strict no-approach policy for them? But then: why wouldn't they even give anyone the look?
I'd highly appreciate advice from more experienced SPB visitors!
Quagmire1974
03-28-17, 22:51
Am currently in SPB. Will post report more fully later but let's say I'm having fun. Anyone around happy to meet up for a drink.Looking forward to your report, Jonners. I'm considering visiting SPB during the White Nights festival in June. What I've read about mongering in SPB here in the forum has me thinking I shouldn't even try to monger while I'm there.
Hi guys,
Do they work in a different sector? (Maria claimed to do tours of SPB by night.) Does the hotel have a strict no-approach policy for them? But then: why wouldn't they even give anyone the look?
I'd highly appreciate advice from more experienced SPB visitors!I've not been to SPB, but I have been to Moscow and Kiev and met Eastern European ladies elsewhere. They expect men to be forward. Do not be shy about asking them, just don't be crude about it either. Say something like "I was looking for companionship for the evening. " If they are in the game they will let you know. If they are not they will also let you know and if you were polite about it you'll most likely get a "Nyet".
Hi Quagmire,
What puts you off mongering in spb? It's a long time since I did as I mainly play with my porn girls but I wouldn't say to anyone don't. There are pitfalls but you probably know them all by reading the forum.
Looking forward to your report, Jonners. I'm considering visiting SPB during the White Nights festival in June. What I've read about mongering in SPB here in the forum has me thinking I shouldn't even try to monger while I'm there.
Quagmire1974
03-30-17, 07:38
Hi Quagmire,
What puts you off mongering in spb? It's a long time since I did as I mainly play with my porn girls but I wouldn't say to anyone don't. There are pitfalls but you probably know them all by reading the forum.The recent post from Protocol and the responses from SanGaetano and Meesee are what put me in that mood (no disrespect intended to any of them whatsoever). But I'm open to mongering in SPB. Perhaps I should RTFF a little more closely. Hell, I've only got 2 1/2 months to do so!
Am currently in SPB. Will post report more fully later but let's say I'm having fun. Anyone around happy to meet up for a drink.Really looking forward to reviews of your playtime. And sadly I'm not there now in SPB, otherwise a drink or two would have been nice Will try getting a porn girl again next time!
I've not been to SPB, but I have been to Moscow and Kiev and met Eastern European ladies elsewhere. They expect men to be forward. Do not be shy about asking them, just don't be crude about it either. Say something like "I was looking for companionship for the evening. " If they are in the game they will let you know. If they are not they will also let you know and if you were polite about it you'll most likely get a "Nyet".Thanks for the advice! I'll make sure to try your line next time, before a lady gives up on me! .
S.
ChrilleSweden
04-05-17, 12:42
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ChrilleSweden
04-05-17, 12:50
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But if I understood correct the driver on taxi was the key to a good place. So little luck in taxi driver and ask for a good place?
CS.
So finally got to try out Russia for my first time. And pretty much everything that could go wrong wen't wrong haha! But I loved it.
Arrived at airport and went straight to buy sim card to make everything easy. But it turned out my fecking phone was locked to my operator in Sweden (which was weird because I have been changing operator. Ironically Tele2 is kinda big in Russia and I just changed from that in Sweden. Duh. I immediately thought damn this was really bad because the list of roaming costs I got on SMS from my operator was expensive. But at least I could use roaming whenever I needed, right?..===============================================
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What hotel in Petersburg has the largest selection of working girls available in the lobby?
Could not PM.
But if I understood correct the driver on taxi was the key to a good place. So little luck in taxi driver and ask for a good place?
CS.Yes. However it wasn't the best place I been to in the world, not a by a mile. But it was decent enough. And I reckon that with some local help and not being there during a big holiday will make life much much easier. There are many possibilities there, just hard to unlock.
The best salon chains in Petersburg seem to be:
- Karamelki. The classic. Lots of French kissing and good sex.
- Nezabudki. One branch is on Nevskiy prospekt near Mayakovskaya metro station, 50 meters from Hotel Corinthia. Another branch at each end of Nevskiy. Pretty girls with beautiful bodies, perfect breasts in various sizes, good service. Nice large rooms and beds at Mayakovskaya and many short skinny girls.
- Markiza. Similar to Karamelki. Many girls happily French-kissed me. Girls at Fontanka branch not so attractive, though one was a beauty.
All have websites. Sometimes they are blocked, but then you can access them via free online proxy server.
The standard rate most places now seems to be RUB 3000, including DATY. If you want BBBJ its RUB 1000 extra.
Girls are next-door types or more attractive. Sometimes a bit older, sometimes young. Service is variable, but often excellent. There is a lot more "soul" than in the Romanian robots that populate German FKKs. Russian language skills is a big advantage. See my previous detailed post on how to go to salons in Petersburg. Many girls appreciate good DATY.
Petersburg high season (for tourists) now seems to be mid-April through October. During this period everything is more expensive and hotels tend to be fully booked. The city is nicer during this period (especially June-Aug.), but for the budget-conscious mongerer the winter months may be better.
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I finally made it back. This branch of Karamelki is a three-story house located in a (typical Petersburg) dingy yard on Vasilevskiy Island. The exact address is 15-aya Liniya Dom 62. Walk into the yard and ring the first doorbell inside the year on the left (not in the passage to the yard). You need a prior appointment, call +7 812 943 16 36. Or look up the Karamelki website online where all the numbers are (need to use one of the free online proxy servers). It takes 20-40 min by taxi from Nevskiy Prospekt, depending on traffic.
There were four girls there when I visited today. Two of them were not particularly attractive, the other two were extremely attractive, IMHO. At least 9's, in my book 10's. Short, beautiful faces, very skinny (serious thigh gaps), (very) firm natural breasts, hard flat stomachs, shapely behinds, petite waistlines, creamy white skin, dark soft straight hair, no tatoos and one of them with very large labia ([CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) has the labia and beautiful eyes and is 151 cm, Ira is 163 cm). 24 and 25 years old, but if they said 20 you would never know they were lying, except perhaps for the quality of the sex. They don't do BBBJ, but rimming is fine, and one of them kissed beautifully. The one who doesn't kiss does other interesting things, like genuine masturbation until she comes, fingering her own anus etc. All seemingly for her own pleasure. Logically it should just be very high-quality acting, but I just couldn't find any indication that it was. That the orgasms are real can be judged by their sounds and behavior (not exaggerated like German porn), the contractions in their vaginal and anal muscles, the secretion from their pussies (lovely egg-white texture), irritation when I stopped too early, and above all their behavior afterwards (one of them needed a break, the other was at first very horny, then almost fell asleep once I had fucker her thoroughly).
Damage: 5000 roubles per hour, more expensive than the other places.
I think they must have a lot less customers than the other places, because they are a bit further away and because the price is higher. It seemed very quiet while I was there. That may also help explain the quality of the sex.
As I have explained before, in Petersburg you have to have a Russian SIM card and use Yandex or Gett taxi app. Without these there is no point in being there. It is also really helpful to speak Russian well. If you don't it would be worth paying someone to come along with you and help you with the phone calls.
I visited Kiev 4, 5 times and met a few young girls as well as many old ex-girls.
I wonder whether Russia (for example, St Petersburg or Moscow) may offer better girls or more reliable escort agencies.
What is your private preference if you compare these two countries?
Please also let me know how you meet girls in Russia. I do not like incall: I use only outcall. I am tired of being deceived by mamba. I would rather see a girl by my naked eyes before I take her to my apartment.
OldMcDonald
04-23-17, 22:08
The best salon chains in Petersburg seem to be:
- Karamelki. The classic. Lots of French kissing and good sex.
- Nezabudki. One branch is on Nevskiy prospekt near Mayakovskaya metro station, 50 meters from Hotel Corinthia. Another branch at each end of Nevskiy. Pretty girls with beautiful bodies, perfect breasts in various sizes, good service. Nice large rooms and beds at Mayakovskaya and many short skinny girls.
- Markiza. Similar to Karamelki. Many girls happily French-kissed me. Girls at Fontanka branch not so attractive, though one was a beauty.
All have websites. Sometimes they are blocked, but then you can access them via free online proxy server.
Thanks, this is good info. What's the website for Nezabudki and Markiza please? Google didn't return anything relevant.
Thanks, this is good info. What's the website for Nezabudki and Markiza please? Google didn't return anything relevant.http://www.nezabudki-spb.ru/ and http://markizaspb.info (site is down at the moment).
ChrilleSweden
05-14-17, 11:11
Going to call Karamelki for a booking but anyone know if they talk English on the phone? Seen a real good looking blond stunner there Nepa or Lepa. That is on the to do list.
Quagmire1974
05-16-17, 22:41
Hey fellas,
First, I want to thank everyone who took the time to contribute reports here in the SPB forum. A special thanks goes out to you, Cucumber, for your very-detailed reports.
The airline and hotel reservations are made and I have a Russia visa stuck in my passport, so I can now confidently say that, barring any unforeseen circumstances, I will be in SPB for one week in mid-June during the White Nights Festival. The plan is to do the tourist thing during the day and monger in the evening a few times. Without going into specifics right now, my hotel is located in the near-immediate vicinity of Corinthia Hotel on Nevsky.
I've RTFF but unfortunately, if you go back only ten pages you're reading information from 2015. However, I read enough to know that visiting salons is what I want to do while in SPB since I usually like to inspect the merchandise before making a purchase. So, about the salons, here are my questions:
1) If I hire an english-speaking taxi driver to call the salon and then get me to and in the location of the salon, what would be a fair fee to pay him?
2) I noticed on the Nezabudki website that some girls have a price and then another, lower price next to it with "VIP" in capital letters. What is "VIP," a "Frequent Fucker Discount?
3) At the salons, is it unlimited service with MSOG?
4) Are there any other hotels (besides Corinthia) where working girls hang out in the lounge or bar area?
5) I've already discovered (through e-mail exchanges and reviews on TripAdvisor) that several employees at my hotel speak english. If I ask any of those employees to help arrange a salon visit, am I going to cause anyone any embarrassment, or is the salon culture pretty well established and well-known in SPB?
Thanks in advance to anyone and everyone who replies. I'd like to bring back fresh information from SPB. If anyone has any doubt about whether I give back when I get back, just take a look at my trip reports.
ChrilleSweden
05-23-17, 18:25
Yes. You can communicate in English with some of the offices. Not to thoroughly though. But enough to book a girl you've seen on the net.
ChrilleSweden
05-26-17, 18:06
So. Went to Stp yesterday. Had an appointment at Karamelki but when I called they wanted to know where and who and when so so much for that appointment. Instead of getting a taxi and the trying to find the entrance I decided on http://euroescort.info/ and Vika. Not really sure it was her that showed up on my doorstep but the girl was good looking for sure. The Pictures are either older or retouched because there where a Little more belly then on the pics. Not bothering though!
And what an hour plus it was. Girl has looks and Brains so she was fun talking to. And boy. The massage she gave me. Started out as a massage and then suddenly she started to suck my balls while I was laying on my belly and the rest is a haze of sucking and fucking.
Afterwards a real decent conversation and she didn't leave until her manager scolded her on the phone for being late. She left in a hurry so I missed a couple of numbers she gave me on her private phone. No bother not coming to STP again for a while anyway and she's withdrawing to go to Austria.
So hurry up. She's a real nice find!
Tonight I'm in Riga. Lets see what that Town has to offer.
Hi,
Does anyone know the current rates of the girls at the Corinthia Hotel bar?
Thanks.
WanderTheWorld
06-21-17, 00:10
http://www.nezabudki-spb.ru/
Called the top telephone number, a woman spoke english and told me I could get there and there are girls available. I found a taxi and gave the phone to driver for the woman to tell him the address. It all went well and taxi got me here https://goo.gl/maps/LQX855XEa5T2.
Then the woman described me how to go upstairs in a nearby building. When inside they got me into a room, 3 girls came one after the other and introduced themselves and turned around for me to see them. 2 looked averagelike a 7 and the other looked like a 9 to me but she was tall and slender, not really to my liking. I asked the "receptionist" if there are other places I could visit. She told me she is not in contact with them and she doesn't know how they are operating so I settled with the blonde.
My god, she was good, this was my third girl in Russia this visit and she was superb. I offered her several things, meeting the other day, inviting her to Moscow for my stay (with my limited budget) and several other things. Because she had a life there she declined. She was a girl going for her friend's wedding the next day with braces, super cute. That 1 hour only lacked kissing, but that was to be expected. She told me she never met a foreigner working in there, this is a call for you all wanderers, go to this place, you will not be disappointed. It has a good room with jakuzi. So far the best one I have had since I came to Russia, I'll be trying another one today, but I have low expectations.
Good luck to you all.
Quagmire1974
06-22-17, 23:11
Hey fellas,
Well if you scroll down just a little bit, you'll see that on May 16th, I asked several questions about mongering in St. Petersburg (SPB). And despite the fact that I didn't get a single response, I'm writing a trip report to share what mongering tricks and secrets I learned while spending a week in SPB. So here we go:
1) I was lodged at Nevsky Forum Hotel:
http://www.forumhotel.ru/en/
This hotel is right on Nevsky Prospekt. For those of you who commented on this forum that you used bilingual (English and Russian) taxi drivers to monger in SPB, you'll be happy to know that the main taxi driver for Nevsky Forum Hotel, Alexander, is also bilingual. But interestingly, after meeting him at the airport for my airport-to-hotel transfer and thinking that he was going to be crucial to my mongering success in SPB, I never used him once. Keep reading to find out why.
Another nice aspect of Nevsky Forum Hotel is that a majority of their receptionists are beautiful, young women who are also bilingual. One of them (Julia) looks just like actress Shannon Elizabeth, I shit you not. So it was nice to pass by the reception desk of the hotel multiple times each day and have all of these beautiful Russian women smiling at me.
2) For mongering, I visited two websites:
http://www.nezabudki-spb.ru/
http://markizaspb.info/
Now when you first visit those websites, they'll pop-up in Russian, but if you use Google Chrome like I do, you'll be able to translate the pages into English, which is a big help. Guys, I spent quite a bit of time on those sites before I left for Russia reviewing everything: locations, phone numbers, girls, schedules of what girls were working when, everything. And while in SPB, I accessed both of those sites almost everyday through a laptop borrowed from Nevsky Forum Hotel to see what, if anything, had changed (yes, I remembered to clear the browsing history each time).
Now Markiza has four locations and Nezabudki has three locations. And I knew from my research that Markiza and Nezabudki both had a location near my hotel, but I didn't know exactly where they were or what were their entry procedures. So what did I do? I gave the phone number of the Markiza and Nezabudki locations near Nevsky Forum Hotel to one of the receptionists at the hotel. I told her that there were a couple of exclusive clubs nearby that I wanted to visit, but I didn't know where they were or how to get in, and if she could call and fill me in with all of that information, I would really appreciate it. When she asked "What are the names of the clubs?" I gently dodged the question and said "They're very exclusive. You've never heard of them and you've never been to them. " Satisfied with my answer, she called Markiza and Nezabudki and after a conversation in Russian with both places that each lasted a few minutes, she had all of the information that I needed.
3) Markiza location near Nevsky Forum Hotel:
The address is 67-69 Naberezhnaya Reki Fontanki, which is a 25 minute walk from the hotel along the canal. As you get close to the location, you will pass a combination women's clothing store / bridal shop on the right, which will have an oval sign with the image of a dress on it hanging high about the front door. About 50 feet past this store / shop on the right will be a square arch protected by a heavy black wrought iron gate. High on the right wall of this arch will be a red and white sign for "Mini Hotel Alrin" (words all in Russian) with a red arrow pointing inside. Below this sign, at about eye level, is a button with the symbol of a bell next to it. Push the button and you will hear a phone ring. When someone answers, simply say "Markiza" (pronounced Mar KEY zuh) and you will be buzzed through the gate. Enter, close the gate behind you, walk into the courtyard, and take a sharp right. I think you will see the words "Mini Hotel Alrin" in English on the side of the building. The madam should open the door for you but if she doesn't, gently knock a couple of times and you will be let in.
The madam (her name is Marianna) will have you sit down on the bench just inside the front door. Take off your shoes (not socks) and put on the slippers offered to you. Follow the madam upstairs, go into the bedroom where she tells you to go, and sit down on the bed. The door will close but will open again as the girls introduce themselves one at a time and tell you their names. The madam will come back in and will ask which girl you prefer. If you don't want any of them, politely say so and then leave. If you do select a a girl, the madam will leave, your girl will return, and you'll pay her. She'll briefly leave to get a towel, will come back, and will then have you get undressed and go take a shower down the hallway. Take a shower, head back to the bedroom, and enjoy your girl. When the session is over, shower again, get dressed, go downstairs, and exit the way you came in. To get through the heavy black wrought iron gate out front, simply push the buzzer on the left wall near the gate, which will pop the gate open. Step through the gate and pull it closed behind you.
4) Nezabudki location near Nevsky Forum Hotel:
The address is 63 Nevsky Prospekt, which is a 30-second walk from the hotel. The square arch of this building (directly across the street from a restaurant called Marketplace) also has a heavy black wrought iron gate at the entrance, but it's always left open, possibly because it's damaged. Pass through the arch and walk straight across the small courtyard towards a solid steel black door with a black and white "Image Salon by Ivonin" sign next to it. Dial 16 on the keypad. The phone will ring, the madam will answer, and just say "Nezabudki" (pronounced neh zeh BOOD key). When the door buzzes open, enter and climb the stairs to the second floor and apartment 16. The madam will either be waiting for you with the door open or you'll have to knock gently a couple of times. The procedure is the same as Markiza: slippers, presentation of girls in a bedroom, shower, session, shower, leave.
5) Sessions:
For my first session on a Friday early in the evening, I chose Vitalina, a girl I targeted before I left for Russia:
http://markizaspb.info/index.php/fontanka-girl/1473188790#!DSC_0152.
She's 19 years old, about 5'9" tall, about 125 pounds, has six tattoos (dragon, Japanese symbols, Spanish phrase, 69 symbol, etc), and is a smoker. She said she was from Bryansk and is working as a pastry chef in SPB. I paid 5500 rubles for a two-hour session of DATY, CBJ, mish, cowgirl, and MSOG. She doesn't have any kids and her body is tight. She's friendly and playful and when we weren't all tangled up with each other in bed, she pulled out her cell phone and we chatted through Google Translate. Would I repeat? Yes.
For my second session on a Sunday in the afternoon, I chose Masha, a girl who caught my eye during the presentation of girls of my first session:
http://markizaspb.info/index.php/fontanka-girl/1488225213#!226615804_214913.
She's 25 years old, about 5'6" tall, about 135 pounds with some abdominal fat and huge double-dee tits, no kids, and is also a smoker. I paid 5500 rubles for a two-hour session of DATY, mish, CBJ, and MSOG, but left after popping twice in one hour because she was very mechanical, a clock watcher, not very friendly, and tried to control the entire session the minute I got back from the shower. When compared to Vitalina's youthful and fun performance, Masha's lackluster performance actually confirmed my belief that working girls in their mid-20's are burned out, bitter, and jaded. Would I repeat? Hell no.
For my third session on a Tuesday late in the evening, I chose Mila, a girl who caught my eye before I left for Russia:
http://www.nezabudki-spb.ru/girls/mila/
She's 22 years old, from SPB, about 5'5" tall, about 125 pounds, a smoker, no kids, has a couple of tattoos (feather, butterfly), perky C cup tits, and tight body. With my gun running low on bullets, I paid 3500 rubles for a one hour session of DATY, mish, CBJ, and MSOG. This girl was fantastic and was very responsive to DATY, which she really enjoyed when I slipped a finger inside of her (Vitalina let me finger her during DATY, too, with no problems, but Masha wouldn't allow fingering). Like Vitalina, Mila and I chatted through Google Translate on her phone, and she was friendly and smiling. Would I repeat? Absolutely.
So, guys, that's it. Let me know if any of you have any questions, and if I notice anything in my notes about my week in SPB that I didn't write here, I'll come back to this thread and let everyone know.
One last thing: I saw a lot of tourists in SPB and I know there's much more mongering going on than suggested by this thread. So to all of you "Looky-Loos" reading reports and using the information to monger successfully in SPB, please start contributing trip reports for the benefit of all of us.
Hey fellas,
One last thing: I saw a lot of tourists in SPB and I know there's much more mongering going on than suggested by this thread. So to all of you "Looky-Loos" reading reports and using the information to monger successfully in SPB, please start contributing trip reports for the benefit of all of us.Great report, thanks.
Be aware though that most tourists are with family, wives, kids, friends. I was probably one that you saw, but could not get away. Hence the lack of reports.
I met with Vitaly and the Asian girl in the past couple of months. Both from Mamba. Both have multiple profiles on Mamba. Vitaly's profiles have been around a while and the Asian girls profiles come and go. I also have their phone numbers and they use Whatsapp / Viber, if anyone wants to contact them write me. Vitaly was 6000,2 hours, "all inclusive" as she put it. The Asian girl was 10000,2 hours, classic and oral. Vitaly speaks English; the Asian girl, not. Additional details by request.
Both look better in their photos, big surprise!, but the info in their profiles is accurate.
https://www.mamba.ru/mb1732707953
https://www.mamba.ru/mb1748487900
KavkazSoul
07-25-17, 23:03
[u]EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited to remove what appeared to be an unannotated link to another website.
Please do not post links to other websites without some explanation as to what may be found at the linked webpage.
In other words, if you want to post a link to another website, please include some commentary describing what the link is to.
Is karamelki still open? All of their web links posted here have all gone kapoot, redirecting to new domain hosts.
Is karamelki still open? All of their web links posted here have all gone kapoot, redirecting to new domain hosts.Here you go http://karamelki.net/.
Many salons are referred to by the streets they are on. If you don't know the geography of Petersburg, this is not so helpful. However, there are several maps that show graphically where salons are located in Petersburg. Very useful.
http://piter.devochki247.com/googlemap
http://prostitutka-spb.com/ads/map
http://pitera-prostitutki.com/mapsearch.php
Many salons are referred to by the streets they are on. If you don't know the geography of Petersburg, this is not so helpful. However, there are several maps that show graphically where salons are located in Petersburg. Very useful.Sorry to disappoint you but these sites look fake. Most of the photos are clearly fake and no major salon network like Karamelki or Nezabudki or Markiza are present there. This map https://www.rusdosug.com/interactive.php is more or less up to date. The only problem. It is in Russian.
Spoiler alert! - no sex or info on girls in this report.
Update on a new kind of place to stay in StPb. Buildings with hotel rooms and apartments (apartments are appearing in Airbnb listings). So I asked some Russian friends about this and they told me it is the newest thing in StPb: buildings with both hotel rooms and apartments. I am staying in one right now (studio apartment). I'm actually in a complex with three of these buildings, all part of the same chain. One of the buildings has a bar and restaurant on the ground floor and I highly doubt you will find any working girls in the bar (but I have not been inside). If you come in via the main entrance you will find a reception desk for the hotel guests. If your in one of the apartments, they just ignore you and you can ignore them and go to your apartment. There's also a mini bar in the lobby of the one I'm in.
When you walk down the hallways, the place has the feel of a hotel, and you will see hotel workers during the day with the carts and linen and towels making their way through the hotel rooms. And if your around the lobby, you will see tourists and groups of tourists with their luggage checking in and out. There is a side entrance in the building I'm in which has access to the stairs, so I don't have to walk past the lobby if I don't want to, but I noticed they are still doing work on the side door and I suspect that soon you will need a card or code to enter thru that door.
What's important I suppose is that if you find an apartment online and your expecting to stay in a traditional apartment check the photos carefully or ask the owner about the building (if it's new) or you might be surprised and find yourself in more of a hotel than apartment building.
I've had a few guests visit me during the day and night and come directly to my apartment door, so reception isn't screening people who enter the building. Girl friendly seems to be applicable.
The only advantage I see to this set up for me is: 1. Building and apartment are new, and everything in the studio apartment is new and working, 2. Price ($30/ day during the summer, which is a very good price for a studio apartment in StPb during the summer), 3. The stairs are kept clean (apartment stairways in Russian apartment buildings are usually trash bins).
Also, I don't think reception will do anything for anyone who is not a hotel guest. My apartment didn't have a bottle opener and when I went down to reception and asked if they could loan me one they asked if I was a hotel guest. When I said no they gave me that 'then why are you bothering us with this' look until I went away.
KareteKid90
08-03-17, 18:41
Hello,
Which websites are best to find long term girl friend? So far, just mamba and russiancupid.com came into my knowledge, can you advise anything else? And according to your experience, with mamba and russiancupid.com, can I get good results on average?
Thank you,
Karete.
For me, the optimal location in Petersburg is Ploshchad Vostaniya / Moskovskiy railway station. This is at the more operational and less touristy end of Nevskiy Prospekt. There are lots of canteen-style stolovayas where you can go and eat ok food cheaply and not have to wait for it to be cooked. Some of them are open 24 hours. There are various hotels in the area, my favourites being Corinthia (if you can spend a bit), Helvetia (small and cosy, great breakfast, perhaps possible to bring in girls discreetly, though I am not sure) and Oktyabrskaya (soviet behemoth, the cheapest of the three, though nothing is cheap here in the summer half of the year). Oktyabrskaya and Corinthia have som ladies hanging out at night. I don't know how much they take in Corinthia, but in Oktyabrskaya they want 7000 roubles, which is way overpriced compared to the salons (and the hotel ladies are also much older). But 37 year old Svetlana from Oktyabrskaya was worth it.
Nearby there are lots of salons. This time I blasted my way through three:
- Nezabudki next to Corinthia on Nevskiy (mostly a daytime place, always something interesting there, though there were not many girls there when I was there).
- Zazerkalnoe on Nevskiy (new place for me, varied and interesting experiences).
- Krasotki (or something like that), near metro Vladimirskaya (a 15-20 minute walk).
When selecting salons there is usually little point at looking at the pics of girls on their websites. Better to see how many rooms they have (6-8 is good), and then to ask them how many girls are available when you call them). The more the merrier, and three should be a minimum.
For Russian speakers I found this site helpful: https://forumamur.com/ . Scroll down to the section "Salony Sankt Peterburga", and you get a list of all the major salons that the Russian mongerers find worth discussing. The discussions themselves are often overly detailed and not very helpful, but it is helpful to see what salons they are discussing.
A new development in Petersburg seems to be crazy upselling related to BBBJ, DATY and kissing. Many girls quoted 5000 extra for BBBJ. It seems to be quite systematic across salons. Perhaps they have become very worried about diseases, and this is a way of basically stopping most BBBJs, reducing the overall risk level in the system.
Petersburg remains a good mongering destination, at least if you speak Russian well. Some girls will play all kinds of games, but if you can handle it you get a lot of personality with your sex. In fact, more than anywhere in the world IMHO. At times it's a bit like being in a Woody Allen film or something like that. If you take it as a kind of participant theatre, it can be fun.
Very many girls are negative towards non-white people and Muslims. So if you are non-white, not rich, don't speak Russian and aren't familiar with the post-Soviet context, I can imagine it might be challenging to operate here.
Quagmire1974
08-08-17, 00:09
Hey Cucumber,
First, many thanks for your excellent report. You are one of the very few contributors to the St. Petersburg forum who can be relied upon for regular reports, and you helped me a great deal when I was planning my trip to SPB earlier this year. You can read my trip report below this post.
I just wanted to comment about a few things you mentioned in your report:
For me, the optimal location in Petersburg is Ploshchad Vostaniya / Moskovskiy railway station. This is at the more operational and less touristy end of Nevskiy Prospekt. There are lots of canteen-style stolovayas where you can go and eat ok food cheaply and not have to wait for it to be cooked. Some of them are open 24 hours.One of these is Marketplace, located in between Corinthia Hotel and Nevsky Forum Hotel on the other side of Nevsky Prospekt. You simply walk in, grab a plastic tray and some silverware, point to what looks tasty, and receive your plate of food from the attendant.
Nearby there are lots of salons. This time I blasted my way through three:
- Nezabudki next to Corinthia on Nevskiy (mostly a daytime place, always something interesting there, though there were not many girls there when I was there).I described this place in my trip report. It struck me as being a hotel in the past before it became a salon. Definitely a little higher class than the Markiza salon I also visited.
When selecting salons there is usually little point at looking at the pics of girls on their websites.I respectfully agree and disagree. Yes, the photos are photoshopped (to hide tattoos, in my experience) but details of the girls (age, height, weight) will be posted with their pictures. Since I target girls aged 18 and 19, I found the websites helpful in making the decision of who with to have a session.
Petersburg remains a good mongering destination, at least if you speak Russian well.I respectfully couldn't disagree more. I didn't speak a word of Russian while in SPB and had three sessions, two which I really enjoyed. Girls have realized that if they have Google Translate on their phone, it can minimize uncomfortable silence and make the transactions easier. And I made sure that when I walked into the salons, I had a smile on my face, was polite and respectful, and went where I was told by the madams. You will go a lot farther anywhere in life with smiles and kindness instead of frowns and an irritated attitude.
Very many girls are negative towards non-white people and Muslims.And that's not because of racism, but rather because of the ugly attitudes shown by some of those people during intimate encounters. I read online that tourism to India sank 40 percent when the raype crisis was occurring several months ago. I had a chica in Guadalajara, Mexico tell me that 60 percent of her sessions with clients were negative experiences, and that these were usually dark-skinned men from India and other counties. Sadly, there are too many countries in the world where women are treated as property and not as equal human beings. So if your attitude about women is that they are property to be used and abused as you see fit, you're q.
Quagmire1974
08-08-17, 19:38
Well, somehow I hit "Upload Report" through my keyboard before I finished writing my response to you, Cucumber. The last sentence should read:
"So if your attitude about women is that they are property to be used and abused as you see fit, you're quickly going to find that you and your brethren are not welcome in any salons or casas around the world."
Thanks again, Cucumber, for your excellent report, and please keep sharing your adventures with us.
How are the girls at Karamelki? What is the best branch?
I am thinking of visiting the salon, if I could summon up enough courage to go there. Nice girls there?
Quagmire1974
08-13-17, 21:52
How are the girls at Karamelki? What is the best branch?
I am thinking of visiting the salon, if I could summon up enough courage to go there. Nice girls there?If you use the search function of this site, located in the upper right portion of this page, you'll find 40 results when you search for Karamelki. Beyond that, you can also do your own research by visiting Karamelki's website.
Blue Touch
08-14-17, 02:22
The price seems to be quite good for Russia.
Hey fellas,
Well if you scroll down just a little bit, you'll see that on May 16th, I asked several questions about mongering in St. Petersburg (SPB). And despite the fact that I didn't get a single response, I'm writing a trip report to share what mongering tricks and secrets I learned while spending a week in SPB. So here we go:
1) I was lodged at Nevsky Forum Hotel:
http://www.forumhotel.ru/en/
This hotel is right on Nevsky Prospekt. For those of you who commented on this forum that you used bilingual (English and Russian) taxi drivers to monger in SPB, you'll be happy to know that the main taxi driver for Nevsky Forum Hotel, Alexander, is also bilingual. But interestingly, after meeting him at the airport for my airport-to-hotel transfer and thinking that he was going to be crucial to my mongering success in SPB, I never used him once. Keep reading to find out why..
Going to Saint Petersburg in few weeks time. My company have been so nice and put me in a hotel in Peterhof! Anyone knows about any action around there, or outcall will be my best option? We are traveling as a group as well so I need to be careful and unfortunately not able to change the hotel.
Going to Saint Petersburg in few weeks time. My company have been so nice and put me in a hotel in Peterhof! Anyone knows about any action around there, or outcall will be my best option? We are traveling as a group as well so I need to be careful and unfortunately not able to change the hotel.AFAIK there is no action there. May be some streetwalkers, but definitely not worthy taking a risk.
Hi all,
I'm new here in St. Pete and have noticed several strip clubs near me. I researched on the forum and it seems they are all pretty much rip-off joints. Are there any strip clubs that are decent? Thank in advance. Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
Blue Touch
08-30-17, 01:20
Hi,
I am new to the games in Russia. As for the price and for the quantity / amount of the salons, which is better St P or Moscow?
Thanks a lot.
The best salon chains in Petersburg seem to be:
- Karamelki. The classic. Lots of French kissing and good sex.
- Nezabudki. One branch is on Nevskiy prospekt near Mayakovskaya metro station, 50 meters from Hotel Corinthia. Another branch at each end of Nevskiy. Pretty girls with beautiful bodies, perfect breasts in various sizes, good service. Nice large rooms and beds at Mayakovskaya and many short skinny girls.
- Markiza. Similar to Karamelki. Many girls happily French-kissed me. Girls at Fontanka branch not so attractive, though one was a beauty.
All have websites. Sometimes they are blocked, but then you can access them via free online proxy server.
The standard rate most places now seems to be RUB 3000, including DATY. If you want BBBJ its RUB 1000 extra.
Hi,
I am new to the games in Russia. As for the price and for the quantity / amount of the salons, which is better St P or Moscow?
I prefer SPB. Prices are higher in Moscow but I've hunted there once and not enough experience to know if the higher prices is worth it. Maybe someone else who has spent more time in Moscow can compare.
Hi, This is my first time to SPB. I will be staying at Park Inn Pulkovskaya hotel. Can someone suggest me a good salon nearby and some strip clubs or any mongering specials please.
Blue Touch
09-13-17, 17:21
Type the word, Salon, in the search thread at the top right corner. You will find good posts.
Hi, This is my first time to SPB. I will be staying at Park Inn Pulkovskaya hotel. Can someone suggest me a good salon nearby and some strip clubs or any mongering specials please..
Hi, This is my first time to SPB. I will be staying at Park Inn Pulkovskaya hotel. Can someone suggest me a good salon nearby and some strip clubs or any mongering specials please.Well, the closest salon to your location is Markiza Park Pobedy http://markizaspb.info/index.php/parkpobedy.
It is located near Park Pobedy metro station, 3 kilometers straight towards city center by Moskovsky Prospekt.
I'm in piter for next few days enjoying the city and the girls. Anyone want a drink, info please contact me by DM or replying to this.
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