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MagicSheep74
01-08-18, 14:32
Gents,
I have a recommendation for anyone interested -.
Lady. Bruna, Brazil, 22 years old, 5 ft 5 in, 50 kg, Blond.
She is the best looking girl in Scandalo at the moment with great service to match. Its a quiet time of year at Scandalo at this time, so finding a good looking girl is pretty difficult. Anyway Bruna is working in Scandalo for the next 2 months and she can get pretty wild in the room. Even the doorman told me that there is a very beautiful girl working tonight when I went in, LOL.
Its not often I see a 9/10 in overall looks and service, but in my opinion she fits the bill.
Apart from her, the clubs are scene is quiet in January, so take what you can get.
Cheers.
EddyTheEagle2
01-09-18, 22:48
Gents,
Lady. Bruna, Brazil, 22 years old, 5 ft 5 in, 50 kg, Blond.
She is the best looking girl in Scandalo at the moment with great service to match.
Its not often I see a 9/10 in overall looks and service, but in my opinion she fits the bill.Hi,
I was in Scandalo last night and enjoyed the scene very much: between 23.00 and 03.00 about 25 girls present: indeed a good line-up with several "Brazilian bunda's"! It was a good atmosphere and I had several Heineken: maybe that's why I don't remember this blond brazilian, LOL. And if the "rasta-doorman" said so it must be true.
By the way, another Brazilian hotty will start this Thursday in Scandalo again: Anni! Not blond but slim, athletic body, great smile, glasses and good service! And don't forget Camilla as well: she's blond with "high-pony-tail": always my second choice.
So, have fun, Eddy.
MagicSheep74
01-10-18, 05:57
Hi,
I was in Scandalo last night and enjoyed the scene very much: between 23.00 and 03.00 about 25 girls present: indeed a good line-up with several "Brazilian bunda's"! It was a good atmosphere and I had several Heineken: maybe that's why I don't remember this blond brazilian, LOL. And if the "rasta-doorman" said so it must be true.
By the way, another Brazilian hotty will start this Thursday in Scandalo again: Anni! Not blond but slim, athletic body, great smile, glasses and good service! And don't forget Camilla as well: she's blond with "high-pony-tail": always my second choice.
So, have fun, Eddy.Cheers Eddy, I never meet this Anni, but I will search and destroy, but trust me Bruna!
TeddyBears
01-10-18, 09:46
By the way, another Brazilian hotty will start this Thursday in Scandalo again: Anni! Not blond but slim, athletic body, great smile, glasses and good service! And don't forget Camilla as well: she's blond with "high-pony-tail": always my second choice.
So, have fun, Eddy.Hi,
First time writer here! But I have been lurking around and read this forum for many years, sorry for not contribute before. I have read many things about this Anni especially from you Eddy, it would be fun to meet her in real life! Do you know how long she will stay at Scandalo? I myself won't be in Malaga until the 21st. I will surely do a report on what I find at Scandalo and Estark92 later this month.
Andalus Expat
01-10-18, 13:43
I think it's unlikely that they come from Nigeria. I'm not an expert on them as they are not my " Cuba libre " but think Cote 'Ivoire and surrounding countries is far more likely. This might explain a different attitude amongst them. Of course they might be from Jamaica as some of them initially claim! LOL.
I remember seeing one of them 5 years ago from a distance and her physique was so naturally athletic that if she had been entered into the Olympic 100 m she would have won with no training!Anyone's had much to do with Nigerians of either sex will be familiar with them claiming to be from any other country, BUT Nigeria. Our mutual friend, Celine at you-know-where (1 m80 in her socks, most of it leg) is Nigerian but was telling me she was from the DR, initially. And one can see why. Nigerians don't exactly have a good rep. (She's OK) Especially the ones patrol the Paseo by Fuengirola's port. SAP is to entice the punter to a secluded corner for a BJ. He thinks he's struck lucky, because one of her pals comes along & joins in. Whilst he's got his trousers round his ankles & preoccupied, her mate does his pockets.
And I've absolutely no reason to believe the scuzzers work Guadalorce are any different. Quite the opposite, from what I've heard. So if you must go hunting dark meat, FFS make sure the only thing of value accessible in the car is the 20 you're going to pay them. Although why anyone would want a 20 experience with a street hooker in the back of a car beats me. For the price of a cheap lunch you could be enjoying a bed in an apartment with proper washing facilities & not running the risk of being arrested by the local Plod. They do have purges. There's a lot of incentive to collect fine money. And your car, with it's car hire company sticker proudly displayed on its rear, says "Euros available here". (Take it off when you collect. It's also an incentive for car break-ins. Lot of visitors are under the illusion the car's a good place to leave valuables).
The response to my previous post, regarding condoms, was amusing. Who's condoms? The girls source their's from the Chinos at about 12 a hundred. They'll be as reliable as party balloons, like most things you buy at the Chinos. Take your own, if you must.
Andalus Expat
01-10-18, 14:07
Of course they might be from Jamaica as some of them initially claim! LOL.There are no Jamaicans. Take it from me. If there were, I would have found them. I like Jamaican girls. Had Jamaican & other island g / f's in London. But I speak Jamaican patois & none of the supposed "Jamaican" putas I've come across, down here do. Think it through. If a Jamaican girl can get to Europe, she can get to the UK. London. Fat City. Be earning more money, have her own culture on tap & no language problems. Why hustle Spain? I've run into black UK girls down here, occasionally. Notably Sandra from Tottenham, who for some unaccountable reason was working a truck stop club on the N92. Hilarious! We shared a lot of friends & were both regulars in the Silver Slag. But UK black girls have UK black girls attitudes. Bit of an acquired taste, to say the least.
http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/sexyclohe-blond-pornqueen-522781862.htm
Had a short, unplanned business trip to the CDS last week, and dropped in on Chloe. Have met her before in her apartment in Mijas. She is from Brasil, but have lived many years in the UK, so her English is excellent. She has a stunning body, slim, nice hips and ass, beautiful breasts. In her ad, she states her age to be 32. That might have been trough some years ago. But, as I said, she has a killer body and sweet face. BBBJ to completion, if you like and covered intercourse. She loves to kiss and cuddle. She gives the best and long BJ I have ever experienced. She knows just when to stop, so that when she finally lets you com, its like an explosion. I am certain she could suck a tennis ball through a garden hose if she tried. Letting her ride you with her tight pussy is the perfect finish.
Enjoy!
EddyTheEagle2
01-11-18, 12:21
I have read many things about this Anni especially from you Eddy, it would be fun to meet her in real life! Do you know how long she will stay at Scandalo? I myself won't be in Malaga until the 21st. I will surely do a report on what I find at Scandalo and Estark92 later this month.Hi Teddy,
Last night I had the opportunity to meet "Anni 2.0". Besides the well-known-service she has added some extras now. First I got scrubbed-body-to-body shower: very sensual! After that I was tied-up and blindfolded. This was my first time I got this and I must say that it's funny when you don't know what will happen the next seconds: especially the "lube-tube-orgy"-gel followed bij BBBJ and massage made me feel very good. The body-to-body massage on the bed afterwards and the rest of the "menu": she's is an expert in making a man happy. Even a little more bondage would be possible but that's not my cup of tea. I realise that all of this will not be possible in a "half-hour-session" in Scandalo's. I had booked her for a whole night in a nearby hotel at the coast. And I must say: waking up with sea-view and her silhouette on the balcony made me eager for "another round". I'm sure that a hour or one and a half hour will be sufficient to satisfy you. She told me she will stay in "S" till Friday 19th. Then a few nights in her hometown and return to the CDS on Sunday 21, so I believe you might be able to meet her. If you want more details you can PM me.
Have fun, E.
TeddyBears
01-11-18, 17:44
Sounds like you had great fun together Eddy! Well it seems like I might be lucky with the dates then. Hopefully her appearance is my cup of tea, I am known to be very picky when it come to looks.
EddyTheEagle2
01-12-18, 01:32
Cheers Eddy, I never meet this Anni, but I will search and destroy, but trust me Bruna!Hi,
Just returned in Holland tonight from the CDS. Recovering of "Anni's 2.0-treatment" at Guadalmar-hotel 8-floor-balcony-seaview; one of the best-nights in my life!
I'v just booked another trip to CDS: 21 - 25 this month. So the opportunity to meet both of them in "S": Bruna and Anni (E. G. In a trio-session?) ; I wonder if I will survive. LOL.
Report later,
Have fun, E.
Sounds like you had great fun together Eddy! Well it seems like I might be lucky with the dates then. Hopefully her appearance is my cup of tea, I am known to be very picky when it come to looks.Best take a step or 2 back Teddy. She is very much an acquired taste in the looks dept! She used to train a lot so has a very toned physique. Typical Bahiana Mulata physically but for me very plain facially. Used to wear glass a lot and have a afro wedge hair style making her look like a frumpy British newsreader. I am sure Eddy's addiction is to the service and not her facial beauty. Hope this helps!
As with most Club based WGs could change personality in an instance and start fuming or go off in a strop probably all an act to get her own way. Part of their perceived routine to manipulate the client but when you are paying surely that's what you are paying to avoid as you can get that attitude at home for free!
http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/sexyclohe-blond-pornqueen-522781862.htm
............dropped in on Chloe. Have met her before in her apartment in Mijas. She is from Brasil, She has a stunning body, slim, nice hips and ass, beautiful breasts. In her ad, she states her age to be 32. That might have been trough some years ago. But, as I said, she has a killer body and sweet face. BBBJ to completion, if you like and covered intercourse. She loves to kiss and cuddle. She gives the best and long BJ I have ever experienced. She knows just when to stop, so that when she finally lets you com, its like an explosion. I am certain she could suck a tennis ball through a garden hose if she tried. Letting her ride you with her tight pussy is the perfect finish.
Enjoy!Thanks for the report Viking. Sounds like a good visit. What are her rates and any negotiating room? Was she working solo or sharing with any other WGs? Mijas! That's a big area, where abouts?
Never ceases to surprise me how much people like playing Russian Roulette. The AIDS incidence in Nigeria is 3.2%. Amongst prostitutes it's 8 times that. Conveniently, that works out at a little over 25%. One in four. Of course girls will tell you that they're not career prostitutes and just happen to be in Spain & just happen to need to support themselves by selling their asses. Their primary career choice as fashion designer having fallen through. And Nigerians, having an international reputation for scrupulous honesty, are of course to be believed. And lets not mention all the other sexually transmitted diseases working girls can come in contact with. Herpes, chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis. Not mention, because Nigerian street hookers have the opportunity to maintain pristine cleanliness in the course of their work, carefully washing between each client with copious bactericides & hot water. And have regular health checks, thanks to possessing ample documentation legalising their residence in Spain.So cynical AE! Oh, and I have an uncle there who has US $100 m that he wants to transfer to your bank account, so PM me the details please!
P.S.: good work on keeping the info real. Sometimes punters forget when all the blood has gone from their brain to their lower regions.
Had a trip to my favourite place 28 Dec to 4 Jan and the clubs were dead dead dead! Most Romanians back home, most Latinas with their families.
Only a few recommendations:
1. Rosio at Estark. Colombian blond, larger lady with enhancements but very keen to please and pretty much everything on offer.
2. Fabianne at Estark. Brazilian brunette, outstanding athletic body with enhancements, outstanding service although she may take some warming up with new clients (I have been doing her for years).
3. Leyla in her own apartment in Malaga. Petitie Romanian brunette with small natural tits but superb performance and BBBJs that are from heaven. See pasion dot com/contactos-mujeres/leyla-escortindependiente-518433388.htm.
Sorry, but I will supply contact numbers on PM only to regular forum members and those that I know as all these girls need to be properly looked after. Eddy will understand with his Anni. Of course, you can get Leyla's number on the pasion website.
Enjoy!
SO-H.
Thanks for the report Viking. Sounds like a good visit. What are her rates and any negotiating room? Was she working solo or sharing with any other WGs? Mijas! That's a big area, where abouts?She is located not to far for from La Cala Hills. Price was 80 E / HR, 150 for two hrs. About negotiating room, I don't know. I never hagel. If I don't like the price, I take my business elsewhere. If the WG is unhappy with the pay, service will probably suffer.
TeddyBears
01-17-18, 10:34
Pepe,
Thanks for your reply about Anni. Well I am very picky when it come to optics so perhaps she's not my cup of tea?! Has anyone tried the local brothels?? (Atico, see. Vendeja24, Ventura Rodriguez51 etc.) I'm also looking at the site pasion.com but I guess if it looks to good to be true then it usually are!? This Leyla girl that you recommended So Happy, does she have a beautiful face? And how much did you pay her?
Had a trip to my favourite place 28 Dec to 4 Jan and the clubs were dead dead dead! Most Romanians back home, most Latinas with their families.
Only a few recommendations:
1. Rosio at Estark. Colombian blond, larger lady with enhancements but very keen to please and pretty much everything on offer.
2. Fabianne at Estark. Brazilian brunette, outstanding athletic body with enhancements, outstanding service although she may take some warming up with new clients (I have been doing her for years).
3. Leyla in her own apartment in Malaga. Petitie Romanian brunette with small natural tits but superb performance and BBBJs that are from heaven. See pasion dot com/contactos-mujeres/leyla-escortindependiente-518433388.htm.I have seen Leyla's ad on pasion. Any info about services and prices?
EddyTheEagle2
01-18-18, 08:26
Thanks for your reply about Anni. Well I am very picky when it come to optics so perhaps she's not my cup of tea?!Hi Teddy,
Pepe is right that I'm very much addicted to her services (and skills) but I must say that IMHO she's a nice girl. And regarding other comments (on this forum) about her I'm not the only one: Toxteth, So Happy, etc. My experiences are that the most-beautiful girls seldom give best services. Besides that: I'm a photographer and when I see a real beauty I turn in "photographer-mode" which means want to do a photoshoot instead of having sex.
By the way, Anni has changed her plans and will return to Malaga Friday 26 of January. "La donna e mobile".
Have fun, E.
Pepe,
Thanks for your reply about Anni. Well I am very picky when it come to optics so perhaps she's not my cup of tea? Has anyone tried the local brothels?? (Atico, see. Vendeja24, Ventura Rodriguez51 etc.) I'm also looking at the site pasion.com but I guess if it looks to good to be true then it usually are!? Read my account of mine & Andaluz Expat 's visit to that Malaga Brothel only 2 or 3 pages previous. Passion has a lot of bait & switch pics and profiles but it also has a lot of genuine SPs. If you have the attitude that it's one in 2 or 3 then you will be fine. If you get upset about the inevitability of fakes out there in the electronic social world then you will be beating yourself up for no reason. If you want 9's and 9. 5's physically attractive you would be best off visiting Scandalos, Mi Ladys Palace and some of the casas and private flats around Puerto Banus. Don't forget to leave us a report of your explorations.
I have seen Leyla's ad on pasion. Any info about services and prices?All standard services including OWO but not anal or bareback. She's a great provider. Don't know about costs as I have a special deal with her. Maybe €100 or €120 per hour, but she is worth looking after.
Chriss1234
01-21-18, 11:46
Situated in the Estepona area I wonder if anyone could recommend a decent place to have a massage (as in soften the muscles) with a happy ending?
Anywhere between Fuengirola and Algeciras is fine, as long as the service is good and the price not to high.
Also, is it safe to try out the girls in the roundabouts out here. And how is the experience of being able to communicate with them in English?
Thanks for all advices.
Andalus Expat
01-22-18, 13:36
There's a bunch of girls being advertised in Pasion for Malaga City. Fotos show skinny but enhanced racks, usually tats, all aged early 20's. Look like Rumanas or from somewhere in the southern eastern European quadrant to me. All the ads read like they've been composed by the same person, although the fone numbers differ. Same comprehensive list of services including anal bareback for some. Anyone any experience of following up one of these ads? The girls exist or is it bait & switch? The services realised? Or is it the classic working girl scam of doggie with her knees together & feeding the old todger in-between the top of her thighs with the muscles clenched?
Just interested. On the face of it, they look like a string of desirable cock fodder. Whatever one wanted to do with them. Prices don't seem exorbitant. But it has a feel of wrongness about it. And I notice they're not showing up in any of the reviews on Lumis, the locals' puta info resource. Is this tourist fodder? That the ads are in Spanish, mostly, would seem to preclude the latter.
TeddyBears
01-23-18, 11:14
Hello Andalus Expat,
Many of these ads with a young beautiful, almost to beautiful girl in it seems to lead to the same person! Larisa! At least five different numbers with beautiful girls with enhanced tits in the pictures, was responded from her whatsapp! Larisa is a girl from Ukraine she claims, around 24-27 years I would say, she has very white skin, with a firm hard body with enhanced tits, her face is ok but absolutely not spectacular. The service level listed in her ad is fake, she doesn't do anal and don't DFK but bareback blowjob is on the menu, but for me the sex was to mechanical. One hour was €100.
http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/jovencita-larisa-ago-cualquier-fantasia-521599529.htm
TeddyBears
01-23-18, 11:25
Visited their premises on both Calle Vendeja and Calle Duquesa, sorry didn't got their names but was introduced to five girls on Calle Vendeja and two girls on Calle Duquesa, I recommend you to stay away if you don't have a fetish for older fat women.
Woodster69
01-23-18, 16:15
Hi,
I met a girl from Pasion at the weekend. She came to my place and we played for well over an hour! Played with toys, BBBJ, lots of oral, fucked her pussy and arse. She used a vibrator in her pussy while I fucked her arse. Wow that was good. Managed to get me to cum 3 times! Best bit is she chargex 50 euro!
Her ad is http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/nueva-en-tu-zona-toda-un-volcan-522774493.htm.
Well worth a try. I'm hoping to have her again real soon.
Only down point is no English but google translate was good and the meeting was no problem.
TeddyBears
01-23-18, 16:52
elcortinsex.com
Found them on pasion.com they operate in a flat nearby El Corte Ingles in Malaga center, was introduced to Natalia and Jessica both in their early 20's I believe, I choose Jessica for one hour, paid her €90. She was a little shy at first but soon get into it. DFK is on the menu, she loved DATY so much so when it was time for BBBJ then she forced her self into a 69! BBBJ was decent but not excellent, her pictures are accurate, she has very nice natural tits.
http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/jessica-en-el-cortin-sex-519408568.htm
Hello Andalus Expat,
Many of these ads with a young beautiful, almost to beautiful girl in it seems to lead to the same person! Larisa! At least five different numbers with beautiful girls with enhanced tits in the pictures, was responded from her whatsapp! Larisa is a girl from Ukraine she claims, around 24-27 years I would say, she has very white skin, with a firm hard body with enhanced tits, her face is ok but absolutely not spectacular. The service level listed in her ad is fake, she doesn't do anal and don't DFK but bareback blowjob is on the menu, but for me the sex was to mechanical. One hour was 100.
http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/jovencita-larisa-ago-cualquier-fantasia-521599529.htmI saw the same ads Andalus Expat did. I knew it had to be too good to be true!
Andalus Expat
01-23-18, 22:33
I saw the same ads Andalus Expat did. I knew it had to be too good to be true!Yeah. I've now found a post on Lumis in the "fotos falsas" board saying the "Clan Rumana" were back. So looks like they're well known to the locals.
What it's about, isn't it? Exchanging info. Hopefully we'll have saved some guys a few euro & wasted time.
TeddyBears
01-24-18, 00:27
Yeah. I've now found a post on Lumis in the "fotos falsas" board saying the "Clan Rumana" were back. So looks like they're well known to the locals.
What it's about, isn't it? Exchanging info. Hopefully we'll have saved some guys a few euro & wasted time.Yes you are right, this board is about changing information! Larisa is a good option if you only want to fuck a girl with a nice body and don't care about passionate involvement.
Had a pleasant meeting with Leyla the girl So Happy mentioned earlier tonight, very friendly sympathetic person I must say, she is very skillful in the art of BBBJ.
Andalus Expat
01-24-18, 01:51
if you only want to fuck a girl with a nice body and don't care about passionate involvement.. But if you do fancy a friendlier fuck, you can do a lot worse than this girl:
http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/ultimos-dias-40-media-hora-y-una-60-522250150.htm
Haven't seen Crystall for a while but when I did, there was a tad more of Crystall than some of the photos indicate. Nevertheless, she's a cuddly Brazilian bundle of fun & very willing. Everything it says on the menu is delivered to the best of her ability. Don't take any notice of the "Ultimos Dias". Crystall's been on her ultimos dias for the past year. Works out of an apartment in Calle Marbella, runs off the plaza behind Fuengirola's main post office. I seem to recall she prefers you to call her when you're outside the building rather than ring her entry bell. No doubt doesn't want to be too obvious to the neighbours. And at 60€ the hour she's outstanding value for money.
Andalus Expat
01-29-18, 14:38
I got email from the Sur in English classified ads team, this morning. SiE will no longer be carrying an Adult section, as from the coming Friday. That's the paper & the on-line edition. Junta de Andalucia banned it. SiE's making arrangements for advertisers to migrate over to Euro Weekly. So, in due course, that'll be your go-to for matters of interest. Why this affects SiE but not EW, I don't know. Matter of where it's published, I imagine.
During my travels throughout Spain, I managed to make it down to the Costa del Sol. What a nice area, and I can only imagine it's even more so during the warmer summer months! Unfortunately, I didn't find the mongering at the clubs to be so great. With the exception of New Scandalo, I was really kind of disappointed with the whole club scene in the Costa del Sol. Well, I guess Estark 92 was OK. But still, I have found no other part of Spain that I like better for mongering than Madrid. And that goes for Barcelona too. Here are some of my club specific findings:
NEW SCANDALO: As others have reported, this club is easily the best one in the CDS region. It just has the best collection of tutes around. I can't really say that I saw even one tute who I would classify as "fugly", which is unusual. There's usually at least one LOL! This club has a low entrance fee of just 10 euros, and with that you get one drink. Lady drinks were on the pricey side at 50 euros if I recall correctly, upon which the ladies earn commissions. The standard price for an hour in the room was 200 euros, with an additional 20 to pay for the towels and sheets. I went on several different nights with the number of girls ranging from around a low of about 20 plus on a Sunday to maybe around 40 to 50 on a Friday or Saturday night. There were a number of bubble butt Brazilian girls working this club who caught my interest. They were quite popular and always seemed to be in demand and taken. I passed on pursuing any of them as I didn't really like any of their faces. The face is very important to me!
Instead, I first went with a really attractive blonde going by "Melissa". Said she was 29 and from Slovenia. A new flag captured for me! What was strange about Melissa was that she adamantly insisted on a CBJ in the bar, but when we got to the room and I had my dick out, she said she wanted to suck me bare! WTF? Asked her after the session why the change of mind. She said that she thought that I was a nice guy, and that I had bought her a drink. So, she decided to give me a BBBJ. Just goes to show what we all know. No matter how much shit these girls talk about what they do and don't do, there's a pretty good chance that they really pick and choose, and will do certain things with some clients, and not with others. In any event, Melissa was a good fuck. Suckled and massaged on her tits and watched / tasted her nipples grow rock hard. Enthusiastic performance in multiple positions before going into mish for a good hard fuck and nut! I thought Melissa was the hottest girl in the club per my personal tastes. She also delivered an outstanding massage.
The other Scandalo girl I went with was 23 year-old Lorena from Romania. Blonde and blue with very white skin and extremely pretty. Knew I had to have some of her as soon as I saw her! Although Lorena's' oral service was a CBJ, it was still very good. Especially how she would look up at me with those gorgeous blue eyes slapping my dick around all in her pretty white face. Lorena is good for the GFE is you like that sort of thing. Well, no DFK, but she did like to give lots of kisses on the lips. We did some 69 where I ate out Lorena's A-hole, then fucked in multiples before I "nutted" in her. And another great massage! Price was same as with Melissa. Was 200 euros for the hour plus 20 for the room. There was another dark-haired girl that I liked going by Natasha. I found her to be attractive, but didn't seem she had a lot of takers for clients. Maybe that's why she promised me BBBJ / CIM and a butt fuck for 250 euros. I had intended to take her up on the offer, but I just kept seeing other girls who I was lot more attracted to. Tutes like Melissa and Lorena! New Scandalo is on the recommended list.
ESTARK 92: Located in Fuengirola, this club rates number 2 on my CDS list. There was no entry fee when I went, and my preferred drink was only 11 euros. Lady drinks were as little as a reasonable 20 euros. The standard price for a session was 150 euros plus 2 euros to pay for the sheets. There was maybe around 30 or tutes available on the night that I went, and it was a real mixed bag in terms of the talent-level. Lots of Romanians. A few black girls. One of the Romanians was right on me when I entered, but I really wasn't into her. I was much more interested in the dark-haired Latina-looking girl who was waving me over to her. Turns out she wasn't a Latina at all, but was Turkish. Was late 20's and said she was Alexandria from Ankara. Hot tute was wearing some skin-tight, white, leopard skin pants that just hugged her beautiful, tanned, Turkish tookus. She started talking all kinds of dirty stuff getting my dick hard and shit. Alexandra was touching around between my legs telling me how much she liked the feel of my dick. Then she turned and pressed her nice round butt right into my dick, which sunk into the crack of her cheeks and said she wanted me to fuck her in her culito. Whispered into her ear that yes, that I was going to put my dick in her ass! I confirmed with Alexandria that she would do BBBJ / CIM (yes) and that she was serious about getting butt fucked (yes again). So off to the room we went!
After washing up in the bidet, it was time to get down to business! This time, I decided to start out first with some massage. Alexandria did a good job, and soon it was time for her to suck my dick! She was true to her word about offering BBBJ service, and did a damn good job of it too. Then, it was time for the condom to go on for some fucking! Alexandria put the condom on, and then we got the friction on in multiple positions, finally ending up in doggy. I was giving Alexandria a good hard pounding from behind. She warned please don't fuck me hard in the ass like that LOLOLOL! I assured her not worry, and that I was an expert butt fucker who knows exactly what and how to cornhole a pretty girl hehehe. Time came to enter Alexandria's pooty hole from the doggy position, and I took my time easing into her anus after she'the applied some lube. First slowly and gently the big head. Easing it in, then the shaft. I had to be slow and patient and gentle with Alexandria. At first, because once it was in, I started to drill her up the butt pretty good eliciting out her shouts and moans from getting fucked in the butt!
I stayed up inside Alexandria's lube-moistened asshole for several minutes before deciding that I want to sperm in her mouth. I hadn't exploded in a girl's mouth in the last few sessions, and I needed for that to change. The condom came off, then I was on by back and Alexandria down there ready to suck me off. I ordered her, "Suck my dick you Turkish 'so-and-so' (you can't use that word on this site hehehe). Suck my fucking dick"! Alexandria responded perfectly with, "You bastard! You American bastard! You broke my ass you American bastard"! Then she started to spit all over my dick! "Puah, puah, puah"! Good, good, good, good, good! I called Alexandria more dirty names. She called me a fucking bastard and kept spitting hahaha! I exploded a huge, huge, huge, huge load into her willing and waiting Turk girl mouth, and Alexandria didn't pull back. Not once! Pretty, dirty, Turkish tute didn't draw back and took every last sticky, gooey, drop of my baby batter into her willing and waiting mouth! After I unloaded, Alexandria raised up and got close to my face, showing me that she had caught every last fucking drop of my sperm. Didn't waste a fucking drop. She got so close to my face that at first, I thought that tute was trying to kiss me with my spunk still in her mouth LOL! But, in retrospect, I think she just wanted to show me the proof. That she had taken in all of my sperm into her mouth. Alexandria split to go to the toilet to spit out my seed, after which I could hear her making very loud and harsh unlady-like sounds trying to clear my sperm out of her mouth. I liked that hahaha! All in all, it was a very good PSE session with lots of dirty talk, butt fucking, and a big load of cum deposited into Alexandria's mouth! It was on the expensive side (300 euros) as I paid Alexandria 100 euros extra for access to her anus, and then another 50 euros to spurt a steamy, gooey load of sperm into her greedy mouth. Although overall not as good a club as Scandalo, based on my experience with Alexandria (and with other cuties available for the fucking) Estark 92 is on my recommend list. And if you want to session with a very pretty girl with a dirty little mouth who does nasty things, then I recommend Alexandria. I note that when I entered her room, I noticed an odor. Her room and everything was very clean, including the bathroom, but she said that sometimes this odor emanated from some of the bathrooms in the girls' rooms. Said she told the management about it, but so far they have done nothing. Before we got started, she opened a window a little bit, and the odor dissipated quickly.
CLUB SELECTA: Dropped in on this club and was totally not impressed with the talent pool. I had one drink and left. To be fair to the club, it was on a Sunday. We all know that on a Sunday even a great club might be only good to average, while a bad club might a really, really bad club. The entrance fee was on the steep side at 25 euros, which will get you one drink. The bar itself was probably the nicest one I saw at any of the CDS clubs, but for us mongers a nice bar won't make up for a lack of talent. That's for damn sure! The rest of the club was well-appointed too with a pool and a sauna. I did not see any of the rooms as I did not session with any of the 6 women who were working when I visited. Most appeared to be in the 30's to 40's range to me. The standard rate for and hour-long session was 180 euros. While I was there, a big spender came in there and purchased a bottle of Moet at around 385 euros for himself and the 6 tutes there. Hey dude, knock yourself out! And me? I'm out of here! I won't say that Club Selecta is a totally "not recommended", but I would say definitely don't go there on a Sunday.
GLASS PALACE: Now this was the absolute worst club of them all that I visited in the CDS region. And based on previous reports, that's pretty much what I expected to find too. But, I had to go see for myself. So, I put in a brave face and said to myself, "Let's get this over with. But I'll be damned if I'm going to fuck somebody and take on for the team"! Hahahaha! So I get there, and if I recall correctly it was 25 euros to get in, which gets you one drink. Why the hell to all the places with all the fuglies charge the most for you to get in? Oh, I know! Because they aren't making any money? LOLOLOL! OK, so I enter around 10 pm and it's me, some short guy standing over at the far corner of the bar, and 15 or so fuglies, most of them like 6's at best, with many of them older and / or fat! Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God! This is awful! I got to get out of here, and I do mean fast! My entrance fee got me a drink. I decided to go ahead and order one since I'the paid for it, but man I worked hard to down it fast and get the fuck out of there. Was like being in a scary movie! And, there's always that one fugly who thinks that she can somehow stare you down into a session. Just looking and looking and looking and staring like that will work. No way no how! Downed my drink and got the fuck out. Went over Scandalo that has girls who are actually worth fucking! I did not interact with any of the tutes at this club, so don't know about pricing for sessions. Glass Palace is not recommended!
SALA DIVAS: Here was yet another club that did not do it for me. It wasn't as bad on the talent tip as Glass Palace or Club Selecta, but still not on par with Scandalo or Estark 92 either. Out of maybe around 20 plus girls there, I only saw one who looked attracted. She appeared to me to be a Dominicana. Not seeing much of interest, I had one drink and left. The price of admission was 20 euros if my memory serves me, and that got me my one drink. Again, I didn't talk to any of the girls, so have no idea about pricing for a session. Finished my one drink and split! Not recommended.
TeddyBears
02-07-18, 18:40
The Cane, you are completely right about Scandalo, it's the best club on CDS but I'm afraid the girls cheated you about the price. One hour is supposed to be 170-180 including sheets for the room and the lady-drinks is 30-40 depending on what they are drinking, but really it's up to you to tell the price you are willing to pay them for drinks!
Thanks for the report, agree with you on the other clubs. Estark92 is worth a visit but the other places mentioned is a total waste of time IMO.
The Cane, you are completely right about Scandalo, it's the best club on CDS but I'm afraid the girls cheated you about the price. One hour is supposed to be 170-180 including sheets for the room and the lady-drinks is 30-40 depending on what they are drinking, but really it's up to you to tell the price you are willing to pay them for drinks!
Thanks for the report, agree with you on the other clubs. Estark92 is worth a visit but the other places mentioned is a total waste of time IMO.Hmm? Well, it's too late now! All of the girls I spoke to no matter who (was a lot at Scandalo) started out quoting 200 euros for an hour. Well, that's at least what I recall anyway. I've been to so many clubs in the last several weeks that I could be mixing some details up. And I pretty clearly remember the lady at the desk expecting me to pay 20 euros more for the room / sheets. Wonder if that was part of a "skim scam"? I don't know, and at this point I can't do anything about it. I suppose that I could have haggled them down some if I wanted to, but guess I wasn't up to it. It's Spain, and I already knew that Spain costs more than other places I favor going to (have mongered in Spain two other times, but never at Scandalo or the CDS region). Seemed to me that the Russian girl Natasha was offering me a good deal at 250 euros for BBBJ / CIM and anal over an hour. That's on par with Germany pricing. But, I didn't take her up on it since I was much more attracted to Melissa and Lorena. I don't think that anybody cheated me on the price of lady drinks at all. That totally depended on what they ordered, and I confirmed the price with the bartenders before authorizing the drink to be poured for the girl. Like I said, I saw a guy at Club Selecta pay like 385 euros for a bottle of Moet for himself and six fugly tutes. That's 55 euros a glass. I'm sure I could have bought cheaper lady drinks at Scandalo, but I had no problem paying for a more expensive copa for a chica I really liked. And look what it got me from Melissa! She sucked my dick bareback when she swore up and down she would never do that, explaining that one reason why she did was that I bought her the drink she wanted LOL (she probably sucks her regulars bare all the time, and who knows what else)! In any event, I would not return to the CDS solely to monger. Overall I found the club scene, which is what I prefer, to be pretty weak. Glad I had the experience though, and I did score some good sex! Turkish Alexandria at Estark 92 was hot as hell (and nasty how I like) and simply the best!
The Cane, you are completely right about Scandalo, it's the best club on CDS but I'm afraid the girls cheated you about the price. One hour is supposed to be 170-180 including sheets for the room and the lady-drinks is 30-40 depending on what they are drinking, but really it's up to you to tell the price you are willing to pay them for drinks!
Thanks for the report, agree with you on the other clubs. Estark92 is worth a visit but the other places mentioned is a total waste of time IMO.I don't think that I've ever paid more than 150 euros for an hour, all inclusive.
Last time I paid 80 for all my 30 minute session but the "ballerina" from Venezuela first asked for 100€.
Lady drinks are usually 30-40 but can be both more and less, depending what you mean by drink. Coronas for 20€ and shots are 20-30€. It's all up to you and the girl.
God I love Scandalo! I've had my best mongering experiences there, Germany, Bogota, Sosua was nothing in comparison.
Regarding the prices, maybe it's just me being old since I've paid the same prices since I started to go to Scandalo in 2011.
Thanks anyways for a great read!
TeddyBears
02-08-18, 04:56
Interesting ShoeBree! 170 is the lowest amount I have paid at Scandalo at least what I can remember. I have been a returning visitor since 2010. But just like The Cane is writing a lot of the girls try to charge 200 the last year or so, and now apparently 220 for sheets! Soon it will be Vive Madrid prices at Scandalo LOL It's a problem because if you haven't spoken about it in the main lounge you don't want to start the session arguing about money, the session will surely not be as expected. So yes I admit, I have paid 200 total two times with Paula (Bra) and Geisy (Bra) the last year. Actually I have never in all these years at Scandalo or other places in Spain been asked to pay extra for anal, have you guys experience this kind of behavior before?
No but seriously we all need to try and stop this price development otherwise we will soon be paying a lot more euros than we actually need. Look at Madrid and Barcelona for an example their clubs in the citycenter is more expensive but if you take your time and visit the clubs outside the center the prices goes down. And Scandalo is located in a industrial area outside Malaga so the prices should be reasonable, maybe the lack of competition is driving the prices up!? Hopefully Glass Palace tries to change this by going on the offensive during the tourist season.
So yes I admit, I have paid 200 total two times with Paula (Bra) and Geisy (Bra) the last year. Actually I have never in all these years at Scandalo or other places in Spain been asked to pay extra for anal, have you guys experience this kind of behavior before? Maybe the lack of competition is driving the prices up!?OK, so maybe I wasn't such a sucker after all! Thanks for the full disclosure. I was confident that my reporting was accurate as to the "price fixing" and "collusion" going on with the Scandalo tutes consistently asking for 200 euros for a standard hour-long session.
Also, it's been pretty standard around the world for girls to ask me for extra to do anal, except for in Brazil. My God I love that place! That said, when additional is requested, the amount can be all over the board. In Spain, I had girls ask for as little as 50 euros more (Flower's in Madrid) up to 500 euros more (Pigmallion in Madrid). If you read my Pigmallion report, then you know that the girl I was talking to wanted 1,000 euros for a 1 1/2 hour session including anal! Was quoted 500 for a basic date plus 500 more to get anal. Hahahahaha! Enough said about that.
But yes, it seemed to me that the Scandalo girls feel that they can get away with charging more because they know Scandalo is the best with no real competition. I really like Spain as a country, including as a mongering destination. But when it comes to pure mongering, places like Brazil and Germany are better, if only because on average you get better performance for less money. Gents, we're paying more for less in Spain! Unfortunately TeddyBears, the train has left the station, and I don't believe there's going to be any going back now.
EddyTheEagle2
02-09-18, 01:52
Interesting ShoeBree! 170 is the lowest amount I have paid at Scandalo at least what I can remember. I have been a returning visitor since 2010. But just like The Cane is writing a lot of the girls try to charge 200 the last year or so. So yes I admit, I have paid 200 total two times with Paula (Bra) and Geisy (Bra) the last year. Actually I have never in all these years at Scandalo or other places in Spain been asked to pay extra for anal, have you guys experience this kind of behavior beforeHi guys, just back to basic: my very recent experience with the girls is: half a hour (the regular menu BBBJ, etc.) is E 80 + E 10 for room / sheets. One hour is E 160 + E 10 room / sheets.
Victoria (the "the butterfly" from Venezuela) and maybe some others try E 100 instead of E 80 but that's her choice (and risk). And all extra's (as anal and CIM) you have to pay extra IMHO.
Let's keep it this way because otherwise the girls will really start ripping us off!
Have fun: I will visit the CDS 26 - 28 February and "the proof of the pudding is in the eating" isn't it?
TeddyBears
02-09-18, 05:16
The Cane, Eddy the Eagle.
From my previous visits in Spain (100+) I have never been asked to pay extra for CIM, anal or BBBJ except for one time in Bacarra in BCN that I declined due to the expensive price they were already charging, resulting that I got my money back.
Andalus Expat
02-09-18, 10:19
Fascinated by the club prices being reported from Madrid. Hard to see why they're so high. Ringing round there, last August general rates were less than on the CDS. €80 for an incall hour seemed pretty general. Couple nights we got girls visit us in the hotel. Both were 100/ h + taxi & neither demanded extras. Either for interaction with the girl I'd brought with me (considerable. She does like xicas) or any excursions round the back passageway. And good quality girls. In fact one of them was down here a couple weeks later because the money's better. From what I could get from conversation between the girls (Elena worked in Madid, couple years back) business was slack. Usual story. Too many girls chasing too few punters. Elena herself lives Alicante but works CDS in the season for the same reason.
Can't say I've visited a club in Madrid. No reason to & I detest clubs anyway. Something special about them? It can't be the girls. The same girls will be here another week.
Sounds to me like they've smelt tourist (mug) & tried it on. My advice would be don't pay it. Like the No12 bus, there'll be another along in 5 minutes. Remember. You're the one with the money, so you call the tune.
Hi guys, just back to basic: my very recent experience with the girls is: half a hour (the regular menu BBBJ, etc.) is E 80 + E 10 for room / sheets. One hour is E 160 + E 10 room / sheets.
Victoria (the "the butterfly" from Venezuela) and maybe some others try E 100 instead of E 80 but that's her choice (and risk). And all extra's (as anal and CIM) you have to pay extra IMHO.
Let's keep it this way because otherwise the girls will really start ripping us off!
Have fun: I will visit the CDS 26 - 28 February and "the proof of the pudding is in the eating" isn't it?I don't agree that BBBJ is "basic" in Spain. I've mongered all over Spain on three different trips and found that the overwhelming majority of the girls all over the country don't want to do BBBJs as part of "basic" service. They may act differently if you are a regular and / or they like you (Melissa with me for example), but I have not found BBBJs in Spain to be "basic". Now, it might be true at certain select establishments, or maybe you mean if a girl agrees to do it in the first place. But, my experience over three trips tells me something very, very different. The overwhelmingly number of girls tell me they won't do it at any price. And let's not even get started about CIM!
I've been to many, many countries around the world, and so far I have only been to three where BBBJs could legitimately be deemed as part of "basic" service. Those three countries are Brazil (especially in Rio), Germany, and Switzerland. I haven't been to every country in the world, but those are the three BBBJ capitals that I know about. Even Thailand doesn't make my list as a "basic" BBBJ capital. They do have BJ bar establishments, but those are a small part of the overall Thai scene.
I wish people would keep it real and just report the hard facts versus how they believe things should be. TeddyBears gave me a little criticism for what I paid for two Scandalo girls, then admitted that he paid the same thing for two other Scandalo girls! Come on guys. I understand. But do the readership a service and report from the field with complete and full disclosure of the facts as you experienced them, and not based on how you think it should be or what you think prices ought to be. The latter is OK actually (talking about what we should pay), but also include what you actually did pay for services rendered. Only with full disclosure can we know exactly how these tutes are operating so that we can take counter measures.
When I first started mongering, I would come to sites like this and read reports with prices. Then, I'd show up at a place that was reviewed and none of the girls would accept what the guy allegedly paid. None of them! Not that the guy reporting was necessarily a liar, but in many cases he probably was in that he was spreading misinformation in an attempt to keep prices down. This is just my suspicion and feeling about some of the guys who have reported on prices over the years. I'm not accusing anybody here of that, but I feel pretty confident that plenty of guys have done what I'm talking about. Misinform in a destined to fail attempt to keep prices down. I admit that I am not a hardcore haggler when it comes to making a deal. I'm not going to be stupid and totally "railroaded" either, but I'm not going to come off as a "penny pinching" type of monger either. For me, in my career hard bargaining has not been necessary since at my favorite places (Brazilian termas and German FKKs) prices are set. I don't need to haggle in those places.
Amidst a revisit to the CDS having enjoyed some excellent punts in Asia and Australia (see Sydney/ Perth/ Singapore / Geylang). Started with the old favourite, Scandalos. Admittedly a Monday night, so understandably quiet. Abrahim on the door as usual. Nice friendly guy but clearly not one to cross! Was pleasantly surprised at the options. No sign of my personal all time Scandalos favourite blonde Ro Melissa. Did the usual thing of walking round too many times and finding it hard to select. Nobody blew me away. Decided to check out if Glass Palace (formerly Latidos) has improved any. The things we do for this forum! Well. It hasn't. 10 girls and none above 5/10. I honestly do not know how this place is commercially viable. I was the only punter. I asked if it got busy on weekends and was told it does. I asked if there were a lot more girls and immediately realised that this translated as "because those here tonight don't cut the mustard". Great. Told there were more on the weekend. If GP (famed for the Estepona club. See below) don't do something about this, the club will not survive.
Feeling my earlier optimism on options was dissipating, I called Melissa on Mobile. She doesn't work now on Monday or Tuesdays. Sensible to avoid burn out but no good for me! I try to entice her to a visit to Malaga Nostrum but no deal. "I look awful baby" she said. I've never seen her look worse than 9/10 and I've seen her look better than that! But my pathetic attempts at compliments don't hit the mark. Back to Scandalo. Approached by a dark, thin girl who I think said she was from Moldavia Pretty but not wow. Slim but not a body to behold. I ask for prices for one hour /90 minutes and 2 hours. I know I'm never agreeing to more than 1 hour with any girl I've not sessioned with before for obvious reasons but it's a good tactic to do this. It tells the girl that you might be long time and have cash. It often prompts discounted prices. Not this time! She quotes me 200 for the hour, 300 90 minutes and 400 2 hours. I laugh, she scowls. I explain I'the want 160 for one hour, 220 90 mins and 280 2 hours. She says "I told you my prices". I tell her I like Ferraris too but won't be buying one. I wish her well.
30 minutes goes by. One of those times where you drink too much more to pass time than anything and part out of dismay at not finding what you wanted. Approaches dry up (no bad thing) as you've knocked back so many (ladies and booze! I decide to repeat with Moldavian Ana. Glasses. I like her. Attitude 10/10. Face 7/10 body 8/10 service 9/10. But before I go over the dark expensive Ferrari is back - "ok I will agree 300 for two hours". More like it but I explain that sometimes its better not to price yourself too high. Now I feel if I say yes the service will be poor as she will think she is going to the room for less than she wanted. For that reason, I'm saying no. She is furious. I am holding in my belly laughing.
I agree 2 hours with Ana and she was fantastic. The old chestnut of the most stunning girls not providing the best service comes back to mind. She is far from ugly. Her dress did not show off very nice natural bee or see cups. Her service was 10/10. Only time in my life I've left Scandalo when it is closing. It was 5. 45 am. Shattered I walk into Malaga Nostrum annoyed it's so late, annoyed I drunk too much, but smiling not only because of my time with Ana but still thinking about the dark Ferrari and the face of thunder when she found that her over-pricing scam had backfired.
2nd Night. Down the coast. Glass Palace Estepona. It's downside is that often you walk in to the line up along that left wall and its like you found out you have just inadvertently strolled onto a catwalk at a fashion show and you have to carry on walking. No tonight. Tuesday and I could not believe what I was seeing. At 10.30 I expected to be the only punter and for there to be 10 girls of which 1 might be ok. Not at all. The club was bouncing! Probably 10-12 fellow punters and maybe 20 girls. Lots of choices including the blonde Marina (very pleasant Bulgarian girl I've seen before). Decided on a pretty blonde called Vanessa. Stunning 10/10 body. Athletic / toned. Some nice tattoos. I cannot fathom the pricing in this club. It is by far the most expensive on the coast. 200 for one hour is standard. I'the decided I definitely wanted a session with this gym-loving cutie so wasn't going to be put off and I wasn't going to drink crazy. Managed to negotiate 90 minutes for 280 but even that was a struggle. Again great service apart from the irritation of holding my cock when I was inside. Really annoying and restrictive. I complained and promised not to drill her but she wasn't having any of that. I'm not small but no stallion so no need. Good session but this slightly spoiled it.
Night 3. Really looking forward to this as Fontana has become my favourite club. The location isn't great in LOS Barrios. But then its like Scandalo really. Book into Guadacorte Park (decent) and walk. I'the given up continuing on to Estark 95 after about 4 trips when I was the only punter and the LU was weak. And, Alicia and Adela in Fontana are amazing. Not tonight. They cannot be amazing when they are no longer in the club. Gutted. Two of my all time favourites. I call Adela. She is working in London! Result as I'll see her there. No idea where Alicia has gone. Real shame. Curly blonde Russian who was terrific in the room.
I get into the same stupid ritual of walking around in a circle and having some beers (not too many this time). It's like you went to a car sales lot, didn't see one you like so you keep going up and down in the hope that one starts to look good! There were two girls I really liked the look of but they were completely occupied by 6 local guys who didn't look like they'the take kindly to an interruption. 2 of them were hauled out physically by bouncers and I didn't fancy mixing it with the 4 that stayed and were buying these two girls champagne. I shall return for these two -they looked nice. So options? Really very few. One 21 year old from Dominican Republic who looked hot but her personality was really off putting. Decided I'the take the walk of shame to Estark / LOS Lagos. Fully expecting a disaster. Walked in - 8 girls, no men. But two friends at the bar immediately looked good. Both Romanian, cannot recall names (sorry). Had 90 minutes with the two of them after haggling an amazing 150 each. They clearly know they ain't making much money and rather than go for say 120 for an hour it's no skin of their noses to push to 90 minutes for 30 more. Sensible economies from the ladies and had a great time. If I recall the names I'll post. Both dark haired, one a lot younger than the other. Service 8/10.
Night 4. Had never tried Club Cleofas near Gibraltar in San Roque / La Linea. Decided given the disappointments of the week so far (particularly Fontana. The only time I've ever left without a session there), that I had little to lose. Found the club, small outside and fairly small inside too. Reminded me a little of Diana Plus in Madrid. Small square areas around the bar. 16 girls. 12 of them 5/10 or less. Would have been ok to session with any of the other 4. Selected Turkish Lorena. Face 7/10, body 7/10 service 9/10. Great attitude. Funny, nice girl to have a beer with. Drinks for ladies start at 20. Whilst I normally run with "dinero para habitacion no para cervezas por chicas en bar" (my cash is for upstairs not to buy beers for ladies here) at 20 somehow I didn't mind. Nice girl, very long talon nails and a great attitude. Had 1 hour only (140 no attempt to negotiate) but would repeat with Lorena. And all the more so after she tells me when we get back to the bar that her sister is now free (one of the others I liked). Sisters? Long time fantasy I've never done. But too knackered now to go for another session. She confirms they are happy to see guys together. So will be back!
So a decent trip, not yet over and some nice ladies albeit late nights, too miles walking in circles and it's all change. You get used to your favourites but they move on.
Amidst a revisit to the CDS having enjoyed some excellent punts in Asia and Australia (see Sydney/ Perth/ Singapore / Geylang). Started with the old favourite, Scandalo. Was pleasantly surprised at the options. No sign of my personal all time Scandalos favourite blonde Ro Melissa. Did the usual thing of walking round too many times and finding it hard to select. Nobody blew me away. Decided to check out if Glass Palace (formerly Latidos) has improved any. The things we do for this forum! Well. It hasn't. 10 girls and none above 5/10. I honestly do not know how this place is commercially viable. I was the only punter. I asked if it got busy on weekends and was told it does. I asked if there were a lot more girls and immediately realised that this translated as "because those here tonight don't cut the mustard". Great. Told there were more on the weekend. If GP (famed for the Estepona club. See below) don't do something about this, the club will not survive...We have some similar tastes my friend hehehe! Melissa was clearly the hottest girl at Scandalo according to my personal likes. But Lorena was also smoking hot to me! You're obviously a regular and have a kind of access to Melissa that I do not. This is the advantage that regulars have. They can establish relationships that "tourist" mongers such as myself cannot, often leading to greater "benefits", if you know what I mean. I was interested in anal with Melissa, but she said she didn't do that (just like she said she wouldn't suck my dick bare either but did anyway without me asking again). In the bar, we joked that although she didn't do anal, we were both quite certain that the most well-known woman from Slovenia did hahaha!
Your tale of your encounter with the dark, thin Moldavian girl was amusing! Saw her there every night I went to Scandalo. Not my type in terms of face or body, but I was curious one night and approached her to have a conversation since she had not approached me. I didn't discuss prices and so on with her because I had no intention of sessioning with her when so many other much hotter girls were there. But, I could see how she might act with fury. After I approached but didn't pursue a deal, she approached me a few more times on a different night trying to get me to go arriba. Once she understood that I was not a buyer under any circumstances, she stormed away in a frustrated huff LOL! I also was propositioned heavily by Ana. She seemed like a fun girl to be with, but didn't quite do it for me in the looks department, so I passed. Nice to read a report from somebody who was there around the same time I was! And with confirmation of the kind of money the girls are asking for too.
Fascinated by the club prices being reported from Madrid. Hard to see why they're so high. Ringing round there, last August general rates were less than on the CDS. From what I could get from conversation between the girls (Elena worked in Madid, couple years back) business was slack. Usual story. Can't say I've visited a club in Madrid. No reason to & I detest clubs anyway. Something special about them? It can't be the girls. The same girls will be here another week.Except for Pigmalion (stupid ridiculous prices that I did not pay) and Vive Madrid, it was easier for me to get a better deal at the Madrid clubs (Whiskeria Estark, Flowers, Factory Air) than at Scandalo in the CDS, which is the premiere club down there. Everybody is different, and I prefer the nightlife party atmosphere over a boring brothel "see and pick" line-up or having a call girl escort show up who looks nothing like her photo-shopped pictures on the internet! I like to be able to personally interact with the girls in a bar-type setting where I can see exactly what I'm getting before she shows up and get a "live vibe" as to whether she will do what I want, and if we "click". As far as the clubs go, the one with the absolute most choice during my trip was Vive Madrid. Stopped in there on a Wednesday night and there had to be damn near 300 tutes up in there! Even Scandalo can't compete with that. Not even close in terms of choice. But as you say, all those tutes but not so many mongers in there on the hunt. Turns many of the girls pure outright aggressive grabbing on mongers and shit as soon as you walk in! Especially the fuglies. Need to get rid of them so that you can tune in on the hotties! And at Vive Madrid, there are a lot of hotties! Believe you me!
Everybody is different, and I prefer the nightlife party atmosphere over a boring brothel "see and pick" line-up or having a call girl escort show up who looks nothing like her photo-shopped pictures on the internet! I like to be able to personally interact with the girls in a bar-type setting where I can see exactly what I'm getting before she shows up and get a "live vibe" as to whether she will do what I want, and if we "click". I'm in the same camp as The Cane. The problem with escort sites etc is the bait and switch. It is most prevalent in London. Stunner online, size 8 with naturals turns up a size 12, different hair, long saggy Dee cups and you've worked yourself up for time with the stunner. Take it or leave it. Big head says tell her where to go, little head says on her knees! Awful. And anyway. Much better to have a line up. It's why I've all but abandoned mongering in London. Manchester is fine in the UK. Vive is a great venue but the prices are also silly. Now 220 for the hour. There are lots of 9's and 10's in Vive. That's the draw over Diana Plus where you need to select one peach from a lot of very average fruit. But there is nearly always one or two and they will be very happy to reduce to 100 per hour if you agree 2 hours. So still with a hottie but for double time. But you risk no hottie! The clubs are very far apart in Madrid though. It's a drag if Diana Plus is poor, 25 e cab to Factory Air which is often quiet and then another 25+ to Vive. Let's not even start on Flowers! I would like to try Pigmallion once and read recent reports of girls being 200 per hour so not so bad.
I cannot ever recall Vive Madrid being cheaper than Scandalo though clearly Diana Park was and remains cheaper.
The Cane. To answer your earlier post. Melissa doesn't do anal so far as I'm aware. For anyone! I agree Ana is not top drawer facially but her service was superb. I recall short bob blonde Lorena. Not there on Monday. One of the girls who will willingly encourage a real pounding and none of this holding your cock nonsense.
CDS in full swing. I didn't try Estark 92/ Star of the Sea. The one advantage that has in common with Diana Plus is that the girl pays fees for the room and many live there. So they are the clock watchers not a mami. Means if you do "click" you can get a long time for not a lot. But I dislike the aggressiveness of the girls at 92. Best night I ever had there was with a Romania called Amy about 3 years ago. She had pestered me about 5 times. I decided to talk to her nicely to explain that she really wasn't my type any more than I'the be hers outside the club. She came up with a most innovative idea: "buy me a drink and I'll be your guide. I'll tell you which girls give good service and those who guys complain about, who does BBBJ / anal / CIM and the best bit is that no girls will hassle you as you'll seem like you are with me". I queried how she knew about the service levels and how do I know she won't just promote her friends? She tells me she knows she isn't nice looking so she does this quite a lot for guys and often asks men when they are leaving what the girl was like. Sad for her but I loved it. We did a tour of the club for 45 minutes. She was brutally honest. Over that time we laughed inappropriately at some punters, some girls outfits etc and she totally grew on me. No looker - 4/10 which would normally be a killer for me. As I'the not seen anything stand out I told her I'the considered all the options, was grateful for her advice and as she went to kiss my cheek to say goodbye I told her she was my choice. Her face was a picture. Fabulous. "Are you sure baby?" She asked. Yes. I doubt this was her scam but even if it was. How clever. Up to her room, intended a quick punt and ended up staying the night with her. Back to my earlier punt. The best looking girls very often don't give best service. They don't need to try so hard. The average girls need to try harder. And often do. Melissa is excluded. Stunning and great service!
I don't lie about how much I'm paying. Simply by saying that I will pay 80 or that I've always paid 80 all girls accept it. It's no problem and the service will most likely not be effected negatively. Or that's my experience.
There might, maybe, be some girls that demand 100€ and won't come down. If you encounter one of those, it's all your choice. I wouldn't recommend anyone to skip a girl they really wanted because of 20 euros.
I'm willing to pay 100/200€ for 30/60 minutes or even 220€ for an hour if the girl is right.
I will not pay 90-110 for a hardcore and high mileage girl with a unhealthy large sense of entitlement and bitchy demeanor. But I do regret the time I didn't session with a young and beautiful newbie from Curitiba. She demanded more than the going rate but I could sense that she was rather shy and new to the game. It ended with her referring me to her older sister, another relatively young and new beauty to the game. I had a great time with her sister tho.
I never saw them again, so sad.
HarvestBoi
02-10-18, 05:02
Cane,
Spain is on my hit list but it's disappointing to hear that BBBJ may not be widely and easily available at Vive for example. My main complaint about habanos in PTY is that the 9's wouldn't, so you ended up with an 7-8. Not bad for $100 but I ended up still thinking about that hot one. I agree the club setting is ideal but if it's dark and loud I find it exhausting. Frankly the best spot I've found so far is Globe in Zurich. Colombia was pretty good too.
The Cane. To answer your earlier post. Melissa doesn't do anal so far as I'm aware. For anyone! I agree Ana is not top drawer facially but her service was superb. I recall short bob blonde Lorena. Not there on Monday. One of the girls who will willingly encourage a real pounding and none of this holding your cock nonsense.Say, did you speak with a dark-haired Ruskie girl from St. Petersburg going by "Natasha" or "Nastia"? She was one of the few I talked to who straight up said from the beginning that she was down with BBBJ / CIM and anal. I promised her that I would go with her on a future night, but then I flaked when I saw Melissa and Lorena LOL! Wondering if I missed something good in Natasha? Yeah Melissa man. I rarely ever approach in the clubs because I don't have to. Enough girls approach me that there's no need. Although, I found a lot of the girls at Scandalo to be a bit more "reserved" if you will. When I saw Melissa, I broke my normal pattern and approached LOL! And the first time, she actually turned me down! You see, she told me she was waiting for her "amigo" (could have been you PayForIt). I didn't know whether that was the truth or not, and maybe she just didn't want to go with me. Well, I saw her turn another guy down later, so I concluded it probably was true. Saw her on another night sitting alone and approached again. Asked her if she was still waiting for her friend, and the answer was no. Yippie kay yah! Melissa looks good, and you already know she's a good fuck in the room! And so is Lorena too!
Cane,
Spain is on my hit list but it's disappointing to hear that BBBJ may not be widely and easily available at Vive for example. My main complaint about habanos in PTY is that the 9's wouldn't, so you ended up with an 7-8. Not bad for $100 but I ended up still thinking about that hot one. I agree the club setting is ideal but if it's dark and loud I find it exhausting. Frankly the best spot I've found so far is Globe in Zurich. Colombia was pretty good too.Yes, as I said, Switzerland, Brazil, and Germany are outstanding for basic BBBJ service. Unfortunately, Switzerland is cost-prohibitive for many, and Brazil too far away. And if you read the threads in the Germany FKK section, then you know that due to a new law, BBBJs are under siege in Germany now. I understand that it's still available despite the new law requiring CBJs, but not as much and / or girls are asking for more money. We still don't know how it's all going to shake out in the end in Germany. And that really kind of "sucks", if you know what I mean.
Say, did you speak with a dark-haired Ruskie girl from St. Petersburg going by "Natasha" or "Nastia"? She was one of the few I talked to who straight up said from the beginning that she was down with BBBJ / CIM and anal. I promised her that I would go with her on a future night, but then I flaked when I saw Melissa and Lorena LOL! When I saw Melissa, I broke my normal pattern and approached LOL! And the first time, she actually turned me down! You see, she told me she was waiting for her "amigo" (could have been you PayForIt). I didn't know whether that was the truth or not, and maybe she just didn't want to go with me. Well, I saw her turn another guy down later, so I concluded it probably was true. Saw her on another night sitting alone and approached again. Asked her if she was still waiting for her friend, and the answer was no. Yippie kay yah! Melissa looks good, and you already know she's a good fuck in the room! And so is Lorena too!She will have been telling you the truth. Melissa has several regulars. I too am a tourist but I am there maybe 5/6 times a year and have got to know her reasonably well. You should also perhaps know she does read this thread! So: Hi Melissa! I can recall being in there one night and immediately going to her with kisses on cheeks and Hi etc and she said she had a customer arriving at 11 pm for a 2 hour booking. My attempts to derail this failed. She keeps to her appointments. So she was not rejecting you. I didn't speak to the Ruskie girl. Several Columbians, but mostly EE last Monday. You have a more laid back style then me. I walk circuits and go say Hi to every girl I think I might session with to check out what they are like / will do / for the "click" you mentioned. If I don't get a good vibe on first circle I'll do them again. If no joy after 3 I'll wait by the bar immediately opposite where the girls come down from upstairs to see which new girls are coming into the club. Got a great tip from an FKK thread which doesn't work as well in Scandalos as some guys leave via the front entrance down the spiral staircase after sessions. Linger by the part where you can see a girl coming down from a room with a punter. Is he smiling? Does he look like he had a good time? Is she smiling / joking. It's only one indicator but it's often a good guide.
Yes, as I said, Switzerland, Brazil, and Germany are outstanding for basic BBBJ service. Unfortunately, Switzerland is cost-prohibitive for many, and Brazil too far away. And if you read the threads in the Germany FKK section, then you know that due to a new law, BBBJs are under siege in Germany now. I understand that it's still available despite the new law requiring CBJs, but not as much and / or girls are asking for more money. We still don't know how it's all going to shake out in the end in Germany. And that really kind of "sucks", if you know what I mean.All correct but the girls are getting a little tired of the new law. There are big fines for girls caught doing it. Some started by holding a condom in one hand whilst performing BBBJ with the other so that if someone came into the room she would jump up and say she is putting on the condom! What they fear is police coming in and asking for BBBJ and when the girl says yes and attempts to go down, this poor policeman has to say no thanks despite his member aching for her mouth and arrest her instead! As if!. The law is almost unenforceable. But not completely. There is a risk of doing BBBJ and then if an argument breaks out over time for example, or refusal to do anal, the punter complains, states that the girl did perform the BBBJ and promised other things for the money but then refused. The club will fine the girl and she could be reported. So they are the risks. All in the apparent name of safer sex. At the beginning (July last year) in some clubs it was strictly enforced. Artemis in Berlin being one. Girls were told if they were caught doing it they would be kicked out of the club and of course there is no other FKK in Berlin. But now I find that if a girl knows you and has been with you before, with you having a CBJ and enjoying other activities (thus making it less likely you are police) they will do BBBJ next time. Some try to charge more, some don't. Best discuss it before you go to the room. Discreetly of course. In Munich there has always been an extra charge for uncovered. Back to Spain and CDS. A lot of girls do want to use condoms but HarvestBoi you'll find no problem finding plenty of girls who do it. Both in Vive Madrid and on CDS. The competition for punters in Vive is so fierce they will nearly all do it.
She will have been telling you the truth. Melissa has several regulars. She keeps to her appointments. So she was not rejecting you. You have a more laid back style than me. I walk circuits and go say Hi to every girl I think I might session with to check out what they are like / will do / for the "click" you mentioned. If I don't get a good vibe on first circle I'll do them again. If no joy after 3 I'll wait by the bar immediately opposite where the girls come down from upstairs to see which new girls are coming into the club. Got a great tip from an FKK thread which doesn't work as well in Scandalos as some guys leave via the front entrance down the spiral staircase after sessions. Linger by the part where you can see a girl coming down from a room with a punter. Is he smiling? Does he look like he had a good time? Is she smiling / joking. It's only one indicator but it's often a good guide.Well, all I can say is if she's not going to go with anybody because she's waiting for somebody else, then why be downstairs at all building up false hopes for mongers? Why not just wait until the guy shows up and he calls her, then she can come down? Or, maybe she just wants to keep herself on display so that other guys can see what's in store for them later? LOL! Anyway, one night when I was there, I saw a guy who would circle and circle and circle around "the track". He was very noticeable because of this tactic / behavior. Perhaps that was you LOL! And yeah, the waiting by the staircase at certain FKKs, or even by the small lockers at certain clubs where the guys pay, is a good strategy sometimes to get an indicator of whether or not a guy was satisfied with services rendered. Like you, I always like to park it near where the girls enter "the arena" so that you can see a hottie as soon as she steps in. I noticed that Melissa and Lorena often stand in the same area (s). I call it "hotties row" LOL!
Back to Spain and CDS. A lot of girls do want to use condoms but HarvestBoi you'll find no problem finding plenty of girls who do it. Both in Vive Madrid and on CDS. The competition for punters in Vive is so fierce they will nearly all do it.Unfortunately, the two girls I went with at Vive didn't want to do it. Maybe if I had held out longer or insisted. But, when I see what I want, I want it as long as the price isn't stupid crazy. I'm afraid that if I insist too hard, then the ones I really want might walk. I've had a lot more success at Whiskeria Estark, Flower's, and Factory Air in Madrid for BBBJ sex. And, I found a super hotty at Whiskeria Estark (Irena from Hungary) who would let me sperm in her mouth and on her lips, plus she seemed to enjoy anal sex more than vaginal sex, telling me that she didn't want me to fuck her in the "cho cho" ever, but only her "culito". In fact, that's the first thing she offered me when she approached me in the bar. Her young, pretty, Hungarian culito with the cute upturned nose LOL! But yeah, the ratio of tutes to mongers at Vive is so out of balance that it ought to be a buyer's (monger's) market. I'm very, very picky though! I choose only the prettiest, quality tutes, such as Melissa at Scandalo in the CDS region! Yes sir!
Well, all I can say is if she's not going to go with anybody because she's waiting for somebody else, then why be downstairs at all building up false hopes for mongers? Or, maybe she just wants to keep herself on display so that other guys can see what's in store for them later? LOL! Anyway, one night when I was there, I saw a guy who would circle and circle and circle around "the track". He was very noticeable because of this tactic / behavior. Perhaps that was you LOL! I have no doubt that Melissa is parading so some guys think "wow. I will wait for her. She's stunning". And I would be amazed if the guy doing the circuits wasn't me! I don't like to just sit there and wait. I need to be doing something. It actually causes a lot of girls to smile / laugh and I sometimes say "I won't pick until I've been around 10 times". They think I'm crazy. And they might just be right!
Mongerer88
02-11-18, 16:12
If the "club concept" is not a must for you, you will find the several popular Madrid brothels are either 100 percent BBBJ, or 100 percent BBBJ with a specified upsell that still makes them less expensive than Vive. Several of these brothels offer line-ups. And there are many independents with reviews who offer BBBJ. And a tremendous number of the ladies doing BBBJ do so to completion.
I don't know why the clubs are relatively more CBJ oriented. And of course there are a few Madrid brothels that are CBJ oriented. Maybe like-minded ladies flock together? You can check the Madrid thread for a list of brothels that are BBBJ oriented. I usually list five specific ones in my posts.
Cane,
Spain is on my hit list but it's disappointing to hear that BBBJ may not be widely and easily available at Vive for example. My main complaint about habanos in PTY is that the 9's wouldn't, so you ended up with an 7-8. Not bad for $100 but I ended up still thinking about that hot one. I agree the club setting is ideal but if it's dark and loud I find it exhausting. Frankly the best spot I've found so far is Globe in Zurich. Colombia was pretty good too.
I have no doubt that Melissa is parading so some guys think "wow. I will wait for her. She's stunning". And I would be amazed if the guy doing the circuits wasn't me! I don't like to just sit there and wait. I need to be doing something. It actually causes a lot of girls to smile / laugh and I sometimes say "I won't pick until I've been around 10 times". They think I'm crazy. And they might just be right!Can't fault this technique, nothing good comes to those that wait for it! But sitting near the WG's Salida and doorway to outside bar / smoking area is also a must!
If the "club concept" is not a must for you, you will find the several popular Madrid brothels are either 100 percent BBBJ, or 100 percent BBBJ with a specified upsell that still makes them less expensive than Vive. Several of these brothels offer line-ups. And there are many independents with reviews who offer BBBJ. And a tremendous number of the ladies doing BBBJ do so to completion.
I don't know why the clubs are relatively more CBJ oriented. And of course there are a few Madrid brothels that are CBJ oriented. Maybe like-minded ladies flock together? You can check the Madrid thread for a list of brothels that are BBBJ oriented. I usually list five specific ones in my posts.I'm sure that regular forum contributors like Payforit (I follow where he leads), Mongerer88, Eddy, etc have had similar experiences to me, and that is I can't remember when a BBBJ was last refused or, for that matter, not offered very quickly, so I have had no problems in that regard. Maybe its something to do with the approach, appearance (hygiene and, in my case, certainly not youth or good looks!) and attitude? In fact, I would say that, once in the room, I am offered full unprotected sex about 40% of the time. And, as some would know, I have pursued the hobby all over Spain and have found the same everywhere.
I guess that Latinas are quickest with the offer, as with anal sex, but even Romanians are not far behind and the best BBBJ ever was from the delicious Leyla that I have previously recommended.
So maybe we can agree that, with the right approach, BBBJs are widely available in Spain.
I'm sure that regular forum contributors like Payforit (I follow where he leads), Mongerer88, Eddy, etc have had similar experiences to me, and that is I can't remember when a BBBJ was last refused or, for that matter, not offered very quickly, so I have had no problems in that regard. Maybe its something to do with the approach, appearance (hygiene and, in my case, certainly not youth or good looks!) and attitude? In fact, I would say that, once in the room, I am offered full unprotected sex about 40% of the time. And, as some would know, I have pursued the hobby all over Spain and have found the same everywhere.
I guess that Latinas are quickest with the offer, as with anal sex, but even Romanians are not far behind and the best BBBJ ever was from the delicious Leyla that I have previously recommended.
So maybe we can agree that, with the right approach, BBBJs are widely available in Spain.I too have mongered all over Spain (and all over the world). Madrid, Barcelona, La Jonquera, Seville, Costa del Sol. And I have learned long ago not to discount the things that my experience tells me. And my experience tells me that in the club environments in Spain, which is what I like, it is not as easy to get BBBJ / CIM as it is in Brazil or Germany. It simply is not. OK, I agree that "approach" may have something to do with it. But, I also know it's something much, much more than that. My "approach" is the same everywhere. All you have to do is ask nicely. If you know something that works other than that, please tell.
No, rather than approach, it's far more about "environment" and what's "customary" in the establishment, and even the country, you're visiting. I believe Mongerer88 is correct that you have a much better chance in brothels, which are establishments that I don't frequent so much. I think also with online escorts who advertise that they are open to it. I used one myself in Madrid who literally ate a huge load of my sperm, as advertised. Yet, at the same time, the experience reminded me of why I rarely ever use escort services. The girl looked nothing like her doctored up pics on the internet. It was her, but not looking nearly as good. At the clubs, I get to see what I'm getting ahead of time, and I find that the club girls tend to be far prettier according to my tastes than what the brothels have to offer on average (yes, you can find a diamond anywhere).
Now, the other thing that I believe is important, besides environment, is "familiarity". If you visit 5 times a year like PayForIt does, versus only once in every so many years like I do, then you build up a reputation and the girls get to know you. In fact, I think this is more important than anything else! Again, as far as "approach" goes, all you have to do is ask nicely (besides obvious stuff like hygiene). I don't dispute claims by anybody here that they might be getting. BBBJs / CIM on a regular basis. But, what I also know is that there is nothing magical or "special" about what they are doing. There's no secret skills they're using, and they're definitely not better looking either LOL (I've seen / met some of them)! Like you said, have a hygienic appearance and a good attitude. But it also helps to be a "known quantity" in environments where BBBJ / CIM is more likely to happen (brothels and escorts versus nightclubs). And I think that if you're a known quantity, then even in the nightclubs you can do well. For somebody like me, that's not going to happen as I am an infrequent visitor to Spain. Fortunately, in places like Brazil and Germany that hasn't mattered. With the new law in Germany, who knows?
So no, I do not agree with you that it's simply a matter of "approach". If you do, then please explain to us what it is about your approach that allows you access to "unprotected sex" (as you put it) 40% of the time. By the way, in Brazil and Germany, I get offered BBBJs 100% of the time! Using the same "approach" if you will (ask nicely and you shall receive). So, how is it that my approach gets me BBBJs 100% of the time in those countries (I have not been to Germany after the law changed), and yet the percentage is something much, much, much lower in Spain? No, I'm afraid that your suggestion that it's all about the "right approach" is far too simplistic. I don't accept that. It's a far more complicated mix of factors than that.
.................I can't remember when a BBBJ was last refused or, for that matter, not offered very quickly, so I have had no problems in that regard. Maybe its something to do with the approach, appearance (hygiene and, in my case, certainly not youth or good looks!) and attitude? In fact, I would say that, once in the room, I am offered full unprotected sex about 40% of the time. And, as some would know, I have pursued the hobby all over Spain and have found the same everywhere.
I guess that Latinas are quickest with the offer, as with anal sex, but even Romanians are not far behind and the best BBBJ ever was from the delicious Leyla that I have previously recommended.
So maybe we can agree that, with the right approach, BBBJs are widely available in Spain.So Happy well done great subject matter that you raise. Those WGs must be finding something very attractive about your " John Thomas " as I am seldom offered bare back sex by WGs in Spain in fact I can remember one time in the last 5 years only.
Regarding BBBJ I find this to be a standard included in the vast majority of WGs offerings and not even an upsale item! As I always try to do strong Q&As I have already discovered whether I am going to get this but as commented already it is always offered.
Latina's do I agree offer the anal exploration option willingly when the are 7's and in their mid 30's but I find the more superficially attractive they are and the younger then this offer drops off their services menu!
What are your experiences of WG's genuinely offering to eat pussy? Not the hook in a club where 2 WG's are working a pretext to generate $$s for themselves by using this as bait to get customers upstairs but where you introduce 2 WG's who are not previously connected in a Club and ask them to eat one and other?
Andalus Expat
02-24-18, 17:17
To riff of The Cane's post.
As far as Europe's concerned, it really doesn't matter which country your in because the girls you're interacting with will have worked all the all the countries in Europe have venues provide work opportunities. The girls I know have have worked one end of Spain to the other, Germany, Belgium, France, Holland, Portugal, Italy & even the UK.
As for club girls, in particular; few of them are doing this work because they like sex. It's the money. As far as I'm aware, none of the clubs stipulate what services the girls should provide. With many clubs, Estark for instance, it's not even relevant to their business model. The club makes it's money by renting rooms to the girls & from the bar. They don't care what the girls do in the room as long as the punters keep coming.
As for what service the girls choose to provide, it's down to money. Competition with the other girls for clients. Time. A client with a hair trigger may blow his load in the first few minutes of a BBJB so may not go whole half hour. Or if she can get him up for a second round, may be pliable to extending to the hour. But the whole modus operandi is to farm the punters for the most dosh. When she's snagged one she's banked him & her main interest is getting back down to the floor to work on the next. Listen to girls talking about doing 15 guys in a shft & you'll get the idea. Sorry to disillusion you but most of you guys aren't worth putting much effort into. You're only here briefly & you like to shop around. You don't provide a lot of repeats. Next time you're in town, they'll be somewhere else.
Girls who work the private houses work a different clientele. Many will be regulars & regulars bring friends. The girls get picked on what services they offer (& importantly, deliver). The girls are looking to attract their regulars who'll maybe party a while, buy them drinks or cough up for other. Er. Stimulants.
Regarding BBBJ I find this to be a standard included in the vast majority of WGs offerings and not even an upsale item! As I always try to do strong Q&As I have already discovered whether I am going to get this but as commented already it is always offered.I'm sorry, but this just isn't true! I have been all over Spain. On this last trip Club Paradise to the north. Scandalo to the south. Clubs like Vive Madrid and Factory Air in Madrid. And BBBJs absolutely were not always offered as part of some basic service! It's just not true, and it has nothing to do with my "approach", appearance, etc. Nothing. I mean, if those matters were an issue, do you think the girls would have gone with me in the first place? I mean, think about this. Nearly 100% of the time they chose me to start with! I didn't approach them as that's not what I normally do in the clubs. I'm not a "chaser". Not unless I see somebody I just got to have. So, the girls were approaching me, and in the process of striking a deal to go to the room, the overwhelming majority of them did not want to give BBBJs, let alone CIM. I did far better getting anal than I did getting BBBJs, which has been typical of my trips to Spain (three total all over the country).
So when I see guys coming in here talking about BBBJs being "basic" in Spain, I'm sorry but I'm just not buying it. And neither should anybody else. Like I said, I've mongered all over the world, and I know basic BBBJ service when I see it. And in Spain, that ain't it! And don't tell me it has to do with "approach", "hygiene" and all that. If that were a concern, then the girls would not even approach me at all in the first place! I would bet that nearly all of you on here talking about BBBJ in Spain being basic are guys who monger in Spain on a regular basis, and who have had an opportunity to build your "rep" as a customer with the girls. For sporadic Spain mongers like myself, we don't have that opportunity, so getting BBBJs is going to be more difficult for us. Like I said, it's been easier for me to fuck hot girls in the ass in Spain than its been to get BBBJ / CIM. And no, no difference between Latinas versus the other girls when it comes to anal sex. Romanians, Russians, Brazilians, Hungarians, Brazilians, Moroccans, Dominicans, Albanians, Cubans, Turks whoever. I've found no sharp distinctions among nationalities when it came to who was ready to get butt fucked during my mongering in Spain (the one exception has been the few Spanish girls here and there I have met not wanting to do anal). But then again, almost all of them did not want to provide in BBBJ / CIM service, regardless of where they were from.
To riff of The Cane's post.
As far as Europe's concerned, it really doesn't matter which country your in because the girls you're interacting with will have worked all the all the countries in Europe have venues provide work opportunities. The girls I know have have worked one end of Spain to the other, Germany, Belgium, France, Holland, Portugal, Italy & even the UK.I don't believe that this part of what you wrote is necessarily true. Yes, some have worked from one end of the continent to the other. Many in fact. But many, many, many more have not. This last trip, I met a large number of girls who told me that Spain is the only country they have ever worked in. They mostly had moved around some within Spain, but many had only worked in Spain and no other country.
I should qualify my comments about Germany and Brazil a bit. In Germany, I have never had a CBJ in an FKK! Never! It's been 100% BBBJs. And in Rio de Janeiro, I have never had a CBJ in a terma! Never! There too it's been 100% BBBJs. The qualification that I need to make is with regard Sao Paulo, the other Brazilian city I have mongered in. There, I found it more difficult to get BBBJs. Many, many of the girls provided it, but there were many others who did not, whereas in Rio I had never had the unfortunate experience of a CBJ. And although many of the girls in Sao Paulo were ready to do BBBJs, I did not receive CIM service from a single tute while in Sao Paulo! Not one! This was a shocking difference between Rio and Sampa! Now, I read posts all the time from a guy AltoBomGosto about him getting BBBJ / CIM in Sao Paulo regularly. Yeah, well guess what? He lives down there and has been mongering in Sao Paolo forever! Backs up my claim that when it comes to mongering, familiarity breeds not contempt, but BBBJ / CIM service! LOL! I know this is the Costa del Sol thread, so I will drop talking about Brazil. I'll just say that if you want BBBJs no questions asked (other than would you rather prefer a condom instead LOL), then choose Rio over Sampa if you're a "tourist monger" like myself.
I don't believe that this part of what you wrote is necessarily true. Yes, some have worked from one end of the continent to the other. Many in fact. But many, many, many more have not. This last trip, I met a large number of girls who told me that Spain is the only country they have ever worked in. They mostly had moved around some within Spain, but many had only worked in Spain and no other country.Cane, with all due respect for the great reports that you write, I have 2 things to say to you:
1. Calm down, there are far more important things in life to worry about and we are all allowed our own opinions based on our own experiences, and
2. You simply can't say that someones real experiences are not true, unless you are accusing them of lying, which I presume you aren't.
So relax, grab a large G&T and go get that CBJ.
SO-Happy.
Delta Indigo
02-25-18, 15:00
I'm sorry, but this just isn't true! I have been all over Spain. On this last trip Club Paradise to the north. Scandalo to the south. Clubs like Vive Madrid and Factory Air in Madrid. And BBBJs absolutely were not always offered as part of some basic service! It's just not true, and it has nothing to do with my "approach", appearance, etc. Nothing. I mean, if those matters were an issue, do you think the girls would have gone with me in the first place? I mean, think about this. Nearly 100% of the time they chose me to start with! I didn't approach them as that's not what I normally do in the clubs. I'm not a "chaser". Not unless I see somebody I just got to have. So, the girls were approaching me, and in the process of striking a deal to go to the room, the overwhelming majority of them did not want to give BBBJs, let alone CIM. I did far better getting anal than I did getting BBBJs, which has been typical of my trips to Spain (three total all over the country)..I certainly agree with one thing, BBBJ is not standard in Spain, I have only been to Vive and Scandalo. In Vive many girls told me they do not do it but a lot did and not for anything extra. Actually the Romanian girls were more willing than the Latinas in this regard in my limited experience in Spain.
In Scandalo, one girl definitely tried to upsell BBBJ, she actually lied to me, she said she would it without any conditions, in the room she said since this was a 30 minute room she would not do it and that she had told me one hour was the deal, which she certainly had not. I told her she was full of BS and a liar and cut the session short. So it is really not standard at all in my experience.
However I am surprised that anal is easier to get than BBBJ, in some countries, ie Czech Republic, Slovakia and the Amsterdam and Brussels RLD, BBBJ is pretty hard to get and I have managed, in most places anal is much harder to get.
So I am confused, was CIM always part of what you wanted, that can be very hard to get and I understand why that was refused, however BBBJ by itself should be a lot easier to get than anal?
So Happy well done great subject matter that you raise. Those WGs must be finding something very attractive about your " John Thomas " as I am seldom offered bare back sex by WGs in Spain in fact I can remember one time in the last 5 years only.
What are your experiences of WG's genuinely offering to eat pussy? Not the hook in a club where 2 WG's are working a pretext to generate $$s for themselves by using this as bait to get customers upstairs but where you introduce 2 WG's who are not previously connected in a Club and ask them to eat one and other?Pepe, to be honest, 2 WG's eating pussy has not been a big thing for me, so can't really comment. Once it was offered during a threesome at Scandalos (and dirty Eddy, as I like to think of him, will probably be able to guess the girls!) but I preferred for them to stick to my (not particularly attractive) John Thomas and other items in that region.
I certainly agree with one thing, BBBJ is not standard in Spain, I have only been to Vive and Scandalo. In Vive many girls told me they do not do it but a lot did and not for anything extra. Actually the Romanian girls were more willing than the Latinas in this regard in my limited experience in Spain.
However I am surprised that anal is easier to get than BBBJ, in some countries, ie Czech Republic, Slovakia and the Amsterdam and Brussels RLD, BBBJ is pretty hard to get and I have managed, in most places anal is much harder to get.
So I am confused, was CIM always part of what you wanted, that can be very hard to get and I understand why that was refused, however BBBJ by itself should be a lot easier to get than anal?Okay, and this is just my experience over many years and in many different places in Spain, so please don't shoot me down, but I've found anal much harder to get than BBBJ's, anal is always an upsell (while BBBJs are not) and CIM is offered about 50% of the time and then about 50% of that time as an upsell. Honest to God Guv.
Cane, with all due respect for the great reports that you write, I have 2 things to say to you:
1. Calm down, there are far more important things in life to worry about and we are all allowed our own opinions based on our own experiences, and
2. You simply can't say that someones real experiences are not true, unless you are accusing them of lying, which I presume you aren't.
So relax, grab a large G&T and go get that CBJ.
SO-Happy.And I have a few things to say back to you. Number 1, I am calm. Number 2, I said that I did not dispute that some might indeed be getting BBBJs in Spain on a regular basis. And number 3, I have been adamant in my position because I believe that it's important that people not be misled. Guys turn to this site for reliable information, and that's what we as responsible reporters from the field should be giving them. And that's what I intend to do. And number 4, I didn't say that I never got BBBJ / CIM in Spain, or that I had given up. In fact, I did get me some BBBJ, even from one girl who initially said she wouldn't do it, plus some quality CIM here and there. My point has never been that it's not available. It's been that it's not "basic", at least not in the circles I frequent for a "tourist monger" like me. So, I recommend that when touring in Spain ask and you "might" receive. But expect a lot of tutes to say no. And if I do have to settle for a CBJ and she's really hot, then out comes the super thin Sagami!
Okay, and this is just my experience over many years and in many different places in Spain, so please don't shoot me down, but I've found anal much harder to get than BBBJ's, anal is always an upsell (while BBBJs are not) and CIM is offered about 50% of the time and then about 50% of that time as an upsell. Honest to God Guv.I too have found anal to be a "challenge" in Spain versus some other places I have been. But, you've seen my last reports, and from those you know I had some decent success getting the booty hole in Spain this last time around. I was pleasantly surprised, but did not spend anytime asking why. I just did it!
Andalus Expat
02-26-18, 01:18
Had to drop in on one of the working apartments on other matters, this evening. Vanesa, who opened the door, is OK. Pretty S. American in her 20's. The two with her were, to be honest, lumps. Need to get themselves a good diet book. Then, while we were talking, another chica came in the room. Certainly caught my attention. Mulata. Very slim. Long dark hair. The mix favours the Hispanic genes so she's a rather elfin face. Very pretty. Just couldn't resist her.
And she proved a delight. Perfect golden skin embellished with a modest tatto. Small firm high breasts with dark nipples. Legs that go on for ever. And an ass to die for. Or die in, if your heart can't take the strain. She's certainly keen on anal. An hour & a half & it was hard to drag myself away. The deep throat BBBJ's worth remarking on too.
She says her name's Mia & hails from the DR. The apartment's on Avenida Condes de San Isidro, Fuengirola, half way between the Local & the National police stations. Ad's in Pasion for the photos. If you're tempted, best to Whatsap 63xxxxx03 as she doesn't speak English. She's been here a month & will hang around while the work holds up. I'll be doing my best by booking her for a home visit when I've recovered.
Nice to see the thread lively! I've mongered in Spain for the best part of 15 years. What I've come to realise is that it's not worth generalising about what gets offered / for what price / where. Spain isn't like the FKKs where there are rules. Until the new law in Germany, with the exception of Munich (any maybe elsewhere I've not been to) BBBJ was 100% guaranteed in every FKK. Even in Munich but for more money. Everywhere else it was in the standard basic price of f**k and suck. Sure they want to charge extra for almost anything else. I recall being in Oceans (Dusseldorf) after a 2 hour session and agreeing to go to a room with a pretty young girl. After 5 minutes of struggling to get it back up I asked her to give me a nice teasing massage instead and she demanded 50 extra saying I'd only paid for basic f**k and suck! I'd have thought she'd have been happy to give her mouth and pussy a rest. But no! So BBBJ was standard in FKK. Now it's a lottery. The Cane's comment about regular punters getting better service is definitely true in most clubs (and brothels). Girls I've been with before both in Germany and Spain offer BBBJ as they know me. It would almost be odd if they said no. The law change has made some impact. Some girls do now say no.
As for Spain, I cannot say BBBJ is included in a basic service. I've had plenty of girls refuse. More so in clubs than in brothels / massage centres. I'm confident I'm a hygienic person. I agree attitude and approach do matter. A rude punter is not going to persuade a hesitant girl to give BBBJ if she was undecided or against. A polite, clean guy with the friendly attitude who asks nicely has got more chance. But there are some girls who tend to say no at least until you get to know them better. I wouldn't know about CIM. Not my thing and I've never done it with a WG in my life and don't like to do it at all. Odd I know but to each their own. Ditto anal. Just not for me. I'm afraid the HIV risk is too high for me. I wouldn't do bareback if it was offered free or even if the girl told me she'd do the entire session for free. Maybe I worry too much but I want to have minimal risk when I monger. BBBJ is taking a risk but it's low on the scale.
For some guys BBBJ is a massive thing. For me, its not a killer if its CBJ. However a small tip which might be of some use to the BBBJ fans. I was in Fontana last year with a pal. We partied for about 90 minutes in the bar with three girls. Two were sexy and one was pretty but overweight. They suggested we party all together. I'd never done this with my friend but he fancied it and I was up for it. When we got in the room and he got his kit off I was as surprised as the girls. For a small guy he was hung like a donkey. He chose the curvy girl to get started with and asked her (politely) for BBBJ. She said she only did CBJ. He told her he'd wait for one of the other girls to see if they did BBBJ but if they said no it was ok. He likes to f**k very hard but only normally gets to do this for a short time because he loves BBBJ. If that's not on the menu he told her he was happy to f**K her hard for 30 minutes. Within 30 seconds she was sucking his cock without a condom! Ok granted we are not all built like a horse but the announcement of prolonged hard shagging soon had her change her mind!
Over the years I've come to accept that a certain percentage of punts will be poor. Either the girl isn't what she promised, or is just not good at the job and then some won't do certain things. Chalk her off to experience and move on to someone who will do what you want them to do.
TeddyBears
02-26-18, 03:14
No of course not every girl offers this service, but truthfully its not common that the girl ask for CBJ in Spain at least not for me. Maybe it is because I always try to have a conversation about what is to be expected before we go to the room? I don't like unpleasant surprises in the room, for me personally its important with DFK, DATY and BBBJ I rarely go with girls that don't offer these services. In my experience it's more likely they refuse DFK than BBBJ.
Nice tip about BBBJ PFI! LOL It will probably work every time!!
For some guys BBBJ is a massive thing. For me, its not a killer if its CBJ. However a small tip which might be of some use to the BBBJ fans. I was in Fontana last year with a pal. We partied for about 90 minutes in the bar with three girls. Two were sexy and one was pretty but overweight. They suggested we party all together. I'd never done this with my friend but he fancied it and I was up for it. When we got in the room and he got his kit off I was as surprised as the girls. For a small guy he was hung like a donkey. He chose the curvy girl to get started with and asked her (politely) for BBBJ. She said she only did CBJ. He told her he'd wait for one of the other girls to see if they did BBBJ but if they said no it was ok. He likes to f**k very hard but only normally gets to do this for a short time because he loves BBBJ. If that's not on the menu he told her he was happy to f**K her hard for 30 minutes. Within 30 seconds she was sucking his cock without a condom! Ok granted we are not all built like a horse but the announcement of prolonged hard shagging soon had her change her mind!Had a good chuckle PFI! Love the story, just a pity that it would never work with my limited endowment!
I have spent about 14 months total in Spain, with about 4 of those being on the Costa del Sol. My experiences with BBBJ vs. CBJ have been between So Happy's and The Cane's, but somewhat closer to The Cane's. I believe that So Happy is a native Spaniard, so that might account for some of the difference. My Spanish is fluent but mostly learned in Latin America so I am not going to pass for a native. I will state that I do not and will not tip for BBBJ, and that of the women I have been with, only about half were Spaniards. The rest were quite a wide variety of latinas and Eastern Europeans, plus a couple of Asians who always did do BBBJ. CBJ is not a deal breaker for me if done correctly.
As far as Europe's concerned, it really doesn't matter which country your in because the girls you're interacting with will have worked all the all the countries in Europe have venues provide work opportunities. The girls I know have have worked one end of Spain to the other, Germany, Belgium, France, Holland, Portugal, Italy & even the UK.
.... But the whole modus operandi is to farm the punters for the most dosh. When she's snagged one she's banked him & her main interest is getting back down to the floor to work on the next. Listen to girls talking about doing 15 guys in a shft & you'll get the idea. Sorry to disillusion you but most of you guys aren't worth putting much effort into. You're only here briefly & you like to shop around. You don't provide a lot of repeats. Next time you're in town, they'll be somewhere else.
Girls who work the private houses work a different clientele. Many will be regulars & regulars bring friends. The girls get picked on what services they offer (& importantly, deliver). The girls are looking to attract their regulars who'll maybe party a while, buy them drinks or cough up for other. Er. Stimulants.Andaluz Expat interesting contribution. This 15 punters a session in a Club is I believe a modern fairy story created by the 35 year old 6's that could never work in them. You have seen how quiet the SPs are in Estark and not even a high 8 or possible 9 is often servicing those sorts of numbers. If she was be doing a 14 hour shift to allow time to see all these clients for 30 minutes each with the gaps between each one. Many of the Club girls do not start work until 10.00 pm and leave by 04.00 am. The arithmetic just does not stack up. The WGs who would like to think they could get a placement in a CDS Club but never could just talk down this version of being on the game as its not an option for them! Of course there are some in Spain that have done these volumes of punters at weekends but very few and far between. Many a time at 02.00 am in a Club bar a WG is still doing laps and trying every seduction and offer to get her 1st or possible 2nd victim of the night for an hour upstairs. When listening to WG's stories 1st thing to remember is that they tell whoppers more or less all of the time.
Andalus Expat
02-27-18, 09:25
When listening to WG's stories 1st thing to remember is that they tell whoppers more or less all of the time.Oh indeed Mr Pepe. But the 15 tricks in a shift claim wasn't made to me. It was from a conversation between a bunch of girls came to a barbecue I held at the house last summer. And the claimant would easily make an 8 now, in her early 30's. More like a 9 or 10 when she was working Bilbao, fresh over from Brazil. (I think you know who I'm talking about. So would Eddy the Eagle) Wasn't even particularly a boast. More the opposite. More a put-down of the life in general & girls chasing money at any cost. The other girls had their own stories. Of working one of the big private houses & being expected to be available 24 hours, 6 days straight. Togged up & full slap. Sleep when they can. If there's clients wanting girls they're expected to perform. If they can't hack it, there's plenty of girls who will.
Sure, she made a lot of money. Bought herself a house in Bahia. She's also got alcohol & cocaine problems, the latest fall-out of which we're trying to sort out. But that's common with a lot of the girls, isn't it? How they cope.
But you're right about the lies. Starting with the big two. Her lying that she find you attractive. You lying to yourself, that you believe her. Basically, they'll tell you anything they think you want to hear. It's the job.
............. Starting with the big two. Her lying that she find you attractive. You lying to yourself, that you believe her. Basically, they'll tell you anything they think you want to hear. It's the job.Hi Andaluz Ex,
Still laughing about that one! Why would you believe a WG? You would have to be in a very poor place and really desperate. If you study the psychological profiling of different social economic and criminal groupings you would most likely choose your acquaintances and cohabiting partners with great scrutiny.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3261079/google-executive-death-prostitute-heroin-yacht-california/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2323086/Prostitute-wormed-way-Earl-Shaftesburys-life-killed-millions-Now-son-vows-strip-family-title.html
If you stick your hand in a fire to remove a flaming coal you probably won't be using that hand for a very long time and you won't have too many people queuing to offer sympathy afterwards. Lay with dogs and wake with fleas! Also comes to mind. When you start having feelings and empathy for your S. P. it's time to get a new hobby otherwise you are going to end up depressed, manipulated and a lot poorer.
EddyTheEagle2
03-02-18, 02:59
My experiences with BBBJ vs. CBJ have been between So Happy's and The Cane's, but somewhat closer to The Cane's. I believe that So Happy is a native Spaniard, so that might account for some of the difference. My Spanish is fluent but mostly learned in Latin America so I am not going to pass for a native. I will state that I do not and will not tip for BBBJ, and that of the women I have been with, only about half were Spaniards. The rest were quite a wide variety of latinas and Eastern Europeans, plus a couple of Asians who always did do BBBJHi guys,
I've just returned from the CDS with the latest info about prices and provided services.
Let me start to tell you that this "flying Dutchman" is not native Spanish, not good looking and in his mid-sixties.
Monday-night: started with "S" around 20.30 / 21.00: "dinner-time" for the girls so only 8 - 10 present (and 3 punters). Major part of the WG's were more interested in their mobiles than in me; only Maria from DR was OK and answered my questions: half hour 100, and 1 hour 200. Including BBBJ. After a beer I decided to leave and search for Sylvia in the street. After a good suck and fuck in the car up to "E-Stark" for a hour with Florentina. We have known each other for over 5 years so no questions about BBBJ or CBJ: one hour 150, and very good service.
Back to the bar of "MN" for a few cheap beers: E 3.20 half liter. Around 00.30 back to "S": 30 girls and same number of man. Spoke to 4 girls and 2 of them asked 100, - half hour (incl BBBJ). The 3rd (Brazilian with very slim body and moving very sexy on the music) even asked 110. Only a Spanish girl from Cadiz was reasonable with the (till now) standard rates in Scandalo: 80 + 10 for the room. Knowing this I decided to leave and on my way to IBIS-budget I spoke to an attractive girl who offered CBJ for 10 in the street. Accepted this and no regrets: wooow.
Tuesday: in the morning a hour (CBJ) with "Pokehontas" at her Oficina: very nice girl: always smile and hungry for (good) sex. Next time she wants to stay the night with me (E 200).
Afterwards I was in Diana-Plus in Madrid and posted my report in that section.
Wednesday I returned to Malaga and had booked Anni for the night in my hotel. We had (as usual) several "steaming" sessions. And thanks to the horrible weather outside Thursday-morning I could easily organize a "late-check-out" so we could have a lot of fun after breakfast as well. It always surprises me how sensitive / hot this girl is: after 5 - 8 minutes DATY she gets her orgasm / squirt: this "phenomenon" has been reported in this forum before. In my business "printing on demand" is well-known but this is different: "coming / squirting on demand". LOL. And she will be in "S" for the next 10 days.
So it seems the girls in "Scandalo" try to make money out of it's good reputation (maybe initiated by the management? Being "the best Club at the CDS": well, not for me!
I agree that a night-over with a girl is (over-all) more expensive than one-hour-session with a WG in the Clubs but for me that night is "best-value-for-money".
Will report later in April about my visit then, in the meantime: have fun!
ZacSparrow
03-04-18, 11:19
Hi,
I met a girl from Pasion at the weekend. She came to my place and we played for well over an hour! Played with toys, BBBJ, lots of oral, fucked her pussy and arse. She used a vibrator in her pussy while I fucked her arse. Wow that was good. Managed to get me to cum 3 times! Best bit is she chargex 50 euro!
Her ad is http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/nueva-en-tu-zona-toda-un-volcan-522774493.htm.
Well worth a try. I'm hoping to have her again real soon.
Only down point is no English but google translate was good and the meeting was no problem.Nice find indeed. But the link is no longer working, can you provide more information so others can find her? Thanks.
Woodster69
03-04-18, 23:25
Nice find indeed. But the link is no longer working, can you provide more information so others can find her? Thanks.Hi,
I saw her again an overnight for 250 euro! With my bad Spanish I think she was telling me just needed money for some bills and would stop! I've messaged her on the number and if she responds I will ask if I can pass on her number.
Oh the overnight was amazing, fucked her in her arse, pussy and mouth then fell asleep, to wake up to find her sucking my cock. She made me cum 4 times not bad for a 49 year old!
ZacSparrow
03-05-18, 19:52
Hi,
I saw her again an overnight for 250 euro! With my bad Spanish I think she was telling me just needed money for some bills and would stop! I've messaged her on the number and if she responds I will ask if I can pass on her number.
Oh the overnight was amazing, fucked her in her arse, pussy and mouth then fell asleep, to wake up to find her sucking my cock. She made me cum 4 times not bad for a 49 year old!Well done my man. Where's she from, her age, is she pretty, if you don't mind sharing some more information.
Pasion.com currently is running a 60% increase in ads. Well the seasons are changing in Europe and Malaga temps are getting better so visitors will be increasing in numbers gradually.
What factors apply for this increase?
1 Sur has ceased advertising WGs both paper and electronic version.
2 Loads of WGs have just arrived looking for work on the CDS.
3 The world of Bait and Switch advertising has just expanded.
Anyone that that has recently used passion.com your feedback will be welcome!
Andalus Expat
03-08-18, 02:17
Pasion.com currently is running a 60% increase in ads. Well the seasons are changing in Europe and Malaga temps are getting better so visitors will be increasing in numbers gradually.
What factors apply for this increase?
1 Sur has ceased advertising WGs both paper and electronic version.
2 Loads of WGs have just arrived looking for work on the CDS.
3 The world of Bait and Switch advertising has just expanded.
Anyone that that has recently used passion.com your feedback will be welcome!I could only really comment on the town I'm in. Fuengirola. Take some energy to cover the whole coast! But.
The advertising team at Sur has arranged a switch over to Euroweekly for all its regular advertisers. Gone fairly seamlessly considering they themselves were only told about the policy change from the Madrid Group HQ on the Friday preceding their next Tuesday midday deadline. I wouldn't imagine Sur being out of the market will have made much difference to Pasion's entries because surprisingly few of the xicas consider there's a visitor market to exploit directly. They know Pasion so they use Pasion & don't think much further. Also, thinking 5 days ahead is not really a xica thing.
There's the usual churn, but can't say I've noticed a particular increase. Couple of apartments have gone but couple apartments have appeared. Going by the phone numbers it's basically the same people at different venues. Things are the usual start of the year muy tranquilo.
Depends on what you're using for stats. Pasion's showing 13 1/2 thousand ads for mujers / Malaga when I just checked. I've always presumed that means "live" ads. How long ads remain "live" depends on what's showing in the drop down "caduca" (expires) box when they place the ad. Default's 14 days. I suspect most of them don't realise there's a longer option. The expiry refreshes when the ads run. So if you're getting a high rate of churn there'll appear to be a lot of "live's" because half of them will be for xicas who've moved on.
Certainly they've a lot more of the red autorenew paid-for ads running. But I'm minded that's largely them chasing tails. One goes autorenew they all have to or find themselves 8 pages back with the once-a-day renovar gratis ads. (Some of the girls try & game the freebies by having lots of ads & spending the day renewing them. But Pasion does have a policy on overuse & they can get their account nixed & have problems reinstating on the same phone number.) And there's a lot of girls running multiple autorenews with the "show" picture different. The Incredible Alicia (Incredible because if you've ever seen her in the flesh, it's incredible anyone would want to a second time) seems to have about 8 going at the moment, 12 hours, on a 30 minute refresh cycle & a bit leaner the other 12. At 20 cents a pop that's got to be north of €40 a day. At €30 a half for all aperture access (could anyone suffer an hour?) her culo must be working entirely for Pasion.
So what you're seeing may be just the result of xicas chasing elusive punters. Of course you'll never get a girl to admit she's not constantly in demand. But there were two came round here Monday night drinking me dry of cava till 5 am and apart from a few w-o-t calls their phones remained doggedy silent. There's another I know, showed up from Madrid, today. Don't get the impression that was booming either.
Andalus Expat
03-12-18, 10:35
This one caught my eye on Pasion. Slender Brasilena, smallish naturals, calls herself Debora & claims age 30. Sunday afternoon was dragging, so I thought I'd get her round. What showed up was certainly the girl in the photo although the black hair had been cut to shoulder length. Age believable. Speaks basic but adequate english. After sorting her a rum & coke & an introductory chat, adjourned to the play-room. Attitude could best be described as playfully sexy. Lots of kissing with tongue. Into a BBBJ with saliva play & eye contact. Introduced her to the contents of the toy box & she was intrigued by a new arrival. Clear silicone cup that fits over the puss connected to a controller by a tube. One button vibrates a tongue contacts the clit. Other introduces a pump sucks the air out of the cup & sensitive parts in. Does remarkable things to pussy lips & clits. She loved it. Found the vibration pattern that suited her & worked herself towards a climax while I teased her nipples with another vibrator. Nearly there, we abandoned the device & I fucked her hard to an orgasm whist she held the vibe against her clit. Certainly felt like the genuine article. She was soaking wet & it was a no-go area until she'd the opportunity for a cigarette & a bit of a chill. Some more BBBJ, a bit of 69 & some general exploration. She made it plain that her arse could do with some attention so spent a good five minutes lubing her & dilating her for penetration. She said later that she really gets off on anal but clients are reluctant to pay the extra & those that do are too inconsiderate to make it pleasurable. She was certainly, initially, damned tight so I let her keep control until she was pushing back hard whilst deploying the vibe on her clit. Cum #2 for her with spasms that were gripping my cock like a vice. We probably would have gone for another full round but she'd started on some oral that was just too good to survive. She got the lot & there was a lot of it so we adjourned to the shower. Another cig & a drink & she was all up for trying again. Despite my recovery time not being what it was she was certainly successful in provoking the needed result but quite honestly I was knackered & there's always another day.
Emoluments were 100 for the booked hour & I'd extended by another hour & insisted she got the 50 for the extra service. So 250 & worth every cent. Not saying she was in any hurry to leave. The resident Brasilena had returned when we got downstairs so there was a lot of high speed Portuguese going back & forth. Two girls seemed to really hit it off & were exchanging phone numbers so she'll likely be back socially. Unfortunately she's Valencia resident, an independent & only here for another couple weeks, so if you want a filthy girlfriend experience don't hang about. I'll certainly be pencilling her in as one of the city's attractions for when I'm next up there.
Emoluments were 100 for the booked hour & I'd extended by another hour & insisted she got the 50 for the extra service. So 250 & worth every cent. Not saying she was in any hurry to leave. The resident Brasilena had returned when we got downstairs so there was a lot of high speed Portuguese going back & forth. Two girls seemed to really hit it off & were exchanging phone numbers so she'll likely be back socially. Unfortunately she's Valencia resident, an independent & only here for another couple weeks, so if you want a filthy girlfriend experience don't hang about. I'll certainly be pencilling her in as one of the city's attractions for when I'm next up there.Good to hear genuine S. PSs are out there on Passion.com but then by selecting Brazilian you are increasing the likelihood of getting a half decent putas who knows a horizontal trick or 2 !
Any chance of a link? And when is the 3 some taking place with the resident Brasiliera?
Andalus Expat
03-13-18, 19:08
Good to hear genuine S. PSs are out there on Passion.com but then by selecting Brazilian you are increasing the likelihood of getting a half decent putas who knows a horizontal trick or 2 !
Any chance of a link? And when is the 3 some taking place with the resident Brasiliera?The Brasil resident is the one works for me. So, no tocar para me. The current link for Debora is: http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/debora-caliente-comopicante-solo-salidas-523898280.htm.
But as ever, Pasion links are ephemeral. That 14 day expiry I mentioned in the earlier post. So not a lot of use to those not currently in country. Why Woodster set us a puzzle worthy of Sherlock Holmes, himself. Somewhere between Gib & Nerja, south of Antequera, aged 49 & possibly a woman is not a lot to go on. I have Debora's number if you PM me. But don't try & book her for Thursday night. Or La Paraguaya. They're reserved, already.
If you're looking for the PSE you really need Yana. She is, after all, a genuine Russian porn-actress. Co-star in your own movie, if you want to go the whole hog.
Viajando Musico
04-12-18, 00:10
Haven't been back to Costa del Sol for more than 2 years, I am excited about my trip to the region in 3 days. Reading back my own old reports I just realized that my first trip here was back in 2007. From the past 20-30 pages of reports here, I found the scene has changed a bit. Just learned from PayForIt's report that Latido is now another Glass Palace. I had some fond memories here when the place was still a good alternative to Scandalo. The recent reviews of the place don't look promising.
Plan to hit all the big clubs, Scandalo, Estark 92, and maybe even drive down to Algecira to check out Estark 95 and Fontana if my time permits. Also want to hit some private flats. I know this can be hit or miss, so recommendations from any of those usual contributors here, Paul Scotland, Andalus Expat, So happy, PayForIt. And the others will be greatly appreciated. I last went to Tony's flat at Fuengirola Port when the new owner just took over, and Kevin was there taking care of the place. Sent an whatsapp message to 661064376 to confirm they are still in business, but has got no reply yet.
I arrive on the late hour of Sat. 14th for 5 days. Will hit Scandalo after landed. Anyone wants to hang around, shoot me a pm. I will buy a few rounds.
NecessaryEvil
04-12-18, 13:36
Haven't been back to Costa del Sol for more than 2 years, I am excited about my trip to the region in 3 days. Reading back my own old reports I just realized that my first trip here was back in 2007. From the past 20-30 pages of reports here, I found the scene has changed a bit. Just learned from PayForIt's report that Latido is now another Glass Palace. I had some fond memories here when the place was still a good alternative to Scandalo. The recent reviews of the place don't look promising.
Plan to hit all the big clubs, Scandalo, Estark 92, and maybe even drive down to Algecira to check out Estark 95 and Fontana if my time permits. Also want to hit some private flats. I know this can be hit or miss, so recommendations from any of those usual contributors here, Paul Scotland, Andalus Expat, So happy, PayForIt. And the others will be greatly appreciated. I last went to Tony's flat at Fuengirola Port when the new owner just took over, and Kevin was there taking care of the place. Sent an whatsapp message to 661064376 to confirm they are still in business, but has got no reply yet.
I arrive on the late hour of Sat. 14th for 5 days. Will hit Scandalo after landed. Anyone wants to hang around, shoot me a pm. I will buy a few rounds.Try +34 663645432.
Spent few days in marbella met a couple of moroccan girls, a russian and a belaruss.
Great time with each if interrested pm me giving nationality as they are picky. Late evenings mosh restaurant in nuevo andalucia gets great pick up place. For semipros.
Andalus Expat
04-13-18, 11:44
Had the misfortune to drop into Estark, Carvahal, last night. Use their cigarette machine. Where the hell do they find these women? Was accosted by one, proudly announced she was from Kazakhstan. I can quite believe it. And no doubt Kazakhstan's a better place for her absence. Not saying the rest of the predatory line-up was an improvement. Bumped into three very drunken Englishmen in the road outside, as I was leaving. Couldn't help thinking, even given the the vagaries of Spanish driving, they were probably in the safest place.
Haven't been back to Costa del Sol for more than 2 years, I am excited about my trip to the region in 3 days. Reading back my own old reports I just realized that my first trip here was back in 2007. From the past 20-30 pages of reports here, I found the scene has changed a bit. Just learned from PayForIt's report that Latido is now another Glass Palace. I had some fond memories here when the place was still a good alternative to Scandalo. The recent reviews of the place don't look promising.
Plan to hit all the big clubs, Scandalo, Estark 92, and maybe even drive down to Algecira to check out Estark 95 and Fontana if my time permits. Also want to hit some private flats. I know this can be hit or miss, so recommendations from any of those usual contributors here, Paul Scotland, Andalus Expat, So happy, PayForIt. And the others will be greatly appreciated. I last went to Tony's flat at Fuengirola Port when the new owner just took over, and Kevin was there taking care of the place. Sent an whatsapp message to 661064376 to confirm they are still in business, but has got no reply yet.
I arrive on the late hour of Sat. 14th for 5 days. Will hit Scandalo after landed. Anyone wants to hang around, shoot me a pm. I will buy a few rounds.If you're going to Estark 95 (very bad reviews lately) and Fontana (good reviews and I've had some great visits) then you should also try Sala Platinium (mixed reviews and closed for a while, but I had a great visit there about 3 years ago) in LOS Cortijillos. On the other side of the road and basically the next exit (113 A) very soon after 113 B, so got here first if driving from Estepona.
Also Glass Palace between Estepona and Marbella worth a visit, but mixed reviews and expensive. Finally Sala Divas in Malaga (Calle la Flauta Magica) has improved a lot, while you are likely to be very disappointed by Glass Palace (old Latidos) near Scandalo. It was scary how bad the lineup was on my last 2 visits. They would have to pay me to jiggy jiggy arriba!
Finally, Leyla who advertises on pasion dot com is great and she has an apartment in Malaga, Search for Leyla in mujeres Malaga and you will find about 4 listings for her with a telephone number. She is a petite Romanian.
Have fun and remember to report back.
Late evenings mosh restaurant in nuevo andalucia gets great pick up place. For semipros.Hi Indus,
Interesting comment and too brief. Please leave more details about on Mosh, when, who, where do you take them too, prices and appearance how many out of 10?
.............. Anyone wants to hang around, shoot me a pm. I will buy a few rounds.Won't be able to enjoy a drink with you and survey the interior of any Clubs. Sadly! So all the best wishes as you have a lot to look forward to. Don't forget to leave us a full report and if Club hopping be careful of drink driving. The rules to that game have changed on the CDS.
Viajando Musico
04-19-18, 23:36
Thanks to So Happy and Pepe for the kind suggestions. I just finished my 5 nights in CDS. I have not been in this region in the past 2 years, but it has been at least 4-5 years the last time I checked out the night spots. The scene has changed a bit including the prices, but factor in the worldwide inflation in the last few years, it is no surprise. Following are the different clubs and venues I explored on this trip.
Scandalo and Guardahoce.
Landed in AGP at the late evening hour, and strategically checked into Norstrum rigtht next to Scandalo. Good modern hotel not bad for a short stay. I heard from one of the Scandalo girl that you can also bring the girl back to your hotel room if you strike a deal with the girl, but she will have to register at the front desk. After cleaning up and before entering Scandalo, I drove around the Guardahoce area to see what is the current scene. Not too many chicas working I observed. I saw a total of about 13, mostly aggressive African girls, only 3 non-blacks, and not attractive at all. Gone are those Romanian hotties, none presented.
Got back to Scandalo at around 1 AM. Being a Sat. Night, there were many more guys than girls. Guy to girl ratio was really not to our favor. About 35 chicas I saw in total, and the # dwindled as I sat there deeper into the night, to a point that there were all guys and a few unattractive girls. Girls are mostly around 7 in my scale with a couple 7. 5 and many more below, a scale down in quality than my last visit quite a few years back. Most had their business mode turned on. 3 sentences into the conversation they all wanted you either buy them a drink or go upstairs. If you refuse, they just turned their back and left. I ended up choosing a morena Cubana who was the only one who was willing to show a little effort to earn my business. Section was ok, but far from great, 110 euro /30 min. , 100 for the girl and 10 for the house. All girls I talked to asked for this price and not willing to bulge.
Glass Palace (old Latido).
I used to have a lot of good times in this club while it was still under Latido. More Latinas with very playful attitude, well, not anymore. When I first stepped into the club, I felt the difference. Like others reported earlier, chicas are more interested in their phone than earning your business, and girl quality was pathetic, nothing above 7 except a couple loosely 7. 5. One of the girl told me there are still many Latinas there, but the short 40 min. I was there, I didn't see many of them. Gone are also those young and more playful Romanians, I saw mostly gypsy looking Eastern Europeans. Prices are 75-80/30 min. And double that for one hour. Entrance is 10 euros come with one drink.
Sala Divas.
Since it is not far from Glass Palace, I also checked out this place after leaving Glass Palace that I only learned from the recent reports. The club is about the size of Glass Palace with more lively atmosphere in an industrial park closer to Malaga, but similar girl quality mostly MILF except one young Dominicana and a fake blond Romanian, Amelia. Prices are steeper at 90/30 min. , and 180/ HR. Honestly I saw no reason to pay the price for such quality.
Estark 92.
Years back, I prefer Scandalo over this club, and now it is just reversed. I came to this club on 2 separate nights this time. I'd say at the moment, this is my favorite club in the area. Quality here is above any other clubs previously mentioned. Also girls are more enthusiastic, and willing to engage. There are quite a few 7. 5's and even 8's. I'the say there were probably more than 8 girls that I don't mind to spend 150 euros for an hour with them. During the interview / convincing process, many girls spent time with me even I didn't show promising interest. I regretted not coming to this club first. But I did ran into a very beautiful and enthusiastic Brazilera, Marina on the last night just hours before my departing flight. She ended up being the highlight of this trip. For 75/30 min. 150/ HR. , and for girl quality and attitude, Estark is a much better deal.
I also went to 2 private flats during my stay. Prices are lower at these private apartments, some goes as low as 30 euros for 20 min. And for the prices, you won't find the hot Scandalo or Estark babes, but normally provide satisfactory services. Both of my private flat experiences were good. My problem with these private flats is, no chica will show their faces on their anucios, and a lot of them use fake photos. So you don't really know whom you are meeting until you are face to face with them.
On my second day, I met with a forum member Andalus Expat who was kind enough to update me with the current scene. He is als a very nice guy and fun to hang with. Andalus posses wide knowledge about places and clubs up and down CDS. He also introduced me to one of his amigas, Noelia for an hour of fun. Noelia was very enthusiastic and the section was hot and steamy. Andalus knows many other chicas that he can recommend.
I was planning to drive down to Algicira, but at the end didn't get the chance go down to check out Fonatana. It is a bit out of the way, and I was just too lazy to make the drive.
On a side note, If you like steak, there is an Agentinian steakhouse, Angus http://www.angustorrequebrada.com/, right next to the hotel I stayed. The restaurant is situated on an elevated location on the beach with great ocean view. I ate here on my last 2 nights. Very good service and incredible steak at reasonable price.
The scene has changed a bit including the prices, but factor in the worldwide inflation in the last few years, it is no surprise.
Scandalo and Guardahoce.
Got back to Scandalo at around 1 AM. Being a Sat. Night, there were many more guys than girls. Guy to girl ratio was really not to our favor. About 35 chicas I saw in total, and the # dwindled as I sat there deeper into the night, to a point that there were all guys and a few unattractive girls. Girls are mostly around 7 in my scale with a couple 7. 5 and many more below, a scale down in quality than my last visit quite a few years back. Most had their business mode turned on. 3 sentences into the conversation they all wanted you either buy them a drink or go upstairs. If you refuse, they just turned their back and left. I ended up choosing a morena Cubana who was the only one who was willing to show a little effort to earn my business. Section was ok, but far from great, 110 euro /30 min. , 100 for the girl and 10 for the house. All girls I talked to asked for this price and not willing to bulge...Hi VM,
Great to read a report so quickly made after a trip! For sure the Puta scene has moved on from 5 years ago and is constantly changing and evolving! Both positively and negatives! I always thought that Scandalos would increase it's prices as the overall package of Bar, Drinks, Venue, Shows, Rooms and standard of some of their better WGs is worth that price. Not my personal philosophy to pay those prices though but understand the business rationale behind it. For sure that Saturday or Sunday 01.30 hrs time can be a desert for a decent looking WG in that venue!
Good to hear my old wing man AndlusExpat looked after you. I taught him everything he knows but he's still only got half my knowledge. LOL he treats his Putas like fine wines. The one's on the top shelf you don't get offered their phone numbers it's only the bin oddments and non-vintage years you get a look in! Is his favourite cigarette machine still in Estarks?
How did you research your Private SPs. From past experience this is time consuming and sometimes involves long driving distances and horrendous parking! I have always started this research 2 weeks before arriving on the CDS and now mainly from Passion.com!
Estark has for me in recent years been a better Club for a fun couple of hours. I have always found the SPs at Scandalos more attractive but less willing to really give a memorable time upstairs. The attitude, banter and as you say the SPs willingness to engage. Did Marina say whether she was a regular there or passing through? What was her appearance, body shape and performance like?
Thanks for the restaurant tip. For me Argentinian Steak is not a top priority speciality. Can always remember the more rustic fayre to be enjoyed around Barbate' years ago, now that would be a great find if it exists on the CDS.
Thanks to So Happy and Pepe for the kind suggestions. I just finished my 5 nights in CDS. I have not been in this region in the past 2 years, but it has been at least 4-5 years the last time I checked out the night spots. The scene has changed a bit including the prices, but factor in the worldwide inflation in the last few years, it is no surprise. Following are the different clubs and venues I explored on this trip.Good report VM and thanks for the feedback!
Who did you visit in the private flats and can you make recommendations?
The fact is that the scene at the clubs change over time and can also be very different from one night to the next. Maybe the ladies at Scandalos have got lazy and spoilt and the Estark ladies realise that they have serious competition and need to try harder?
Delta Indigo
04-20-18, 18:01
Thanks to So Happy and Pepe for the kind suggestions. I just finished my 5 nights in CDS. I have not been in this region in the past 2 years, but it has been at least 4-5 years the last time I checked out the night spots. The scene has changed a bit including the prices, but factor in the worldwide inflation in the last few years, it is no surprise. Following are the different clubs and venues I explored on this trip.
Scandalo and Guardahoce.
Got back to Scandalo at around 1 AM. Being a Sat. Night, there were many more guys than girls. Guy to girl ratio was really not to our favor. About 35 chicas I saw in total, and the # dwindled as I sat there deeper into the night, to a point that there were all guys and a few unattractive girls. Girls are mostly around 7 in my scale with a couple 7. 5 and many more below, a scale down in quality than my last visit quite a few years back. Most had their business mode turned on. 3 sentences into the conversation they all wanted you either buy them a drink or go upstairs. If you refuse, they just turned their back and left. I ended up choosing a morena Cubana who was the only one who was willing to show a little effort to earn my business. Section was ok, but far from great, 110 euro /30 min. , 100 for the girl and 10 for the house. All girls I talked to asked for this price and not willing to bulge.
On a side note, If you like steak, there is an Agentinian steakhouse, Angus http://www.angustorrequebrada.com/, right next to the hotel I stayed. The restaurant is situated on an elevated location on the beach with great ocean view. I ate here on my last 2 nights. Very good service and incredible steak at reasonable price.Thank you for the report, this was great, I also stayed at the same hotel, the location was convenient, I did not know about the steak house. In that case Scandalo's is really not that cost effective, this is the same price as Vive in Madrid where the girls can not bargain and there is certainly more choice available.
In that case I would say only go to Scandalos in order to visit Malaga, a fantastic town in my opinion.
Let's wait and see, I paid 80€ for 30 minutes when I visited last summer but got the feeling that the girls gotten more greedy and wanted 90-100€. 110€ still feels high.
Let's remember that we don't have to accept their offer, a little negotiating never killed anyone.
I will pay the market price but when I visit in June I will offer 80€ and won't really mind to pay 90€, I feel rather confident that the fishes will take the bait.
During my visits to Scandalo I've never gotten the impression that the girls had too much business, so it's the buyers market.
Also, there's been reports that the Vive girls wants 120€ for 30, but others have reported 110€ and that's what I've been quoted.
I like the feeling in Scandalo and I like being by the ocean, but the best girls in Vive are playing in another division.
wait and see, I paid 80 for 30 minutes when I visited last summer but got the feeling that the girls gotten more greedy and wanted 90-100. 110 still feels high.
Let's remember that we don't have to accept their offer, a little negotiating never killed anyone.
I will pay the market price but when I visit in June I will offer 80 and won't really mind to pay 90Don't know what happened to our friend Viajando but I was in Scandalo last Wednesday. Abrahim still on the door, same staff and decent selection of girls. I was asked once by Denisa (Said Italian but for sure Ro) for 100 e /30. I laughed out loud and wished her luck with it. Last time I posted on CDS I reported Victoria who wanted 300 then dropped to 200 (from memory). Repeated with blonde Anna again (glasses). Wanted 80/30 or 160/60 and we did a deal for 300 for 2 hours as I know her / her service level.
Vive Madrid was still 220/ hour 2 weeks ago.
Have a feeling that they try it on if they don't know you. Estark girls can charge whatever they want as it is their room. Same as Diana Plus in Madrid. I've done 3 hours for 280 in Estark 92 in the past and once all night for 350. Not so easy in Scandalo. House fine to take girl out of Scandalo is 200 now. Not worth it.
GP won't stay open as it gets no punters. Ditto Estark 95.
Thanks for the reports.
Let's wait and see, I paid 80 for 30 minutes when I visited last summer but got the feeling that the girls gotten more greedy and wanted 90-100. 110 still feels high.
Let's remember that we don't have to accept their offer, a little negotiating never killed anyone.
I will pay the market price but when I visit in June I will offer 80 and won't really mind to pay 90, I feel rather confident that the fishes will take the bait.
During my visits to Scandalo I've never gotten the impression that the girls had too much business, so it's the buyers market.
Also, there's been reports that the Vive girls wants 120 for 30, but others have reported 110 and that's what I've been quoted.
I like the feeling in Scandalo and I like being by the ocean, but the best girls in Vive are playing in another division.This is quite remarkable, isn't it? I know from talking with girls, down here, that business for them has been quiet since the start of the year. It shows up in the amount of girls moving around, looking for work. The "churn" rate is very high. There's xicas popping up on Pasion, furiously advertise for a few days, then vanish. Follow the Pasion account & you'll find the same girl's now the other end of the country. So their solution to the loss of income is to raise the price of the service to those clients they do snag.
It's interesting to consider whether this is a viable strategy. For instance, do you guys coming down here for a spot of mongering do less if the price rises, or just accept the hike? I'd imagine the domestic market neatly reflects the net disposable income of the Spanish male, so is an indication of the Spanish economy as a whole. The Spanish punter's funds are limited. So hiking prices reduces demand further. Some economist could get a good research paper, out of this.
This is quite remarkable, isn't it? I know from talking with girls, down here, that business for them has been quiet since the start of the year. It shows up in the amount of girls moving around, looking for work. The "churn" rate is very high. There's xicas popping up on Pasion, furiously advertise for a few days, then vanish. Follow the Pasion account & you'll find the same girl's now the other end of the country. So their solution to the loss of income is to raise the price of the service to those clients they do snag.
It's interesting to consider whether this is a viable strategy. For instance, do you guys coming down here for a spot of mongering do less if the price rises, or just accept the hike? I'd imagine the domestic market neatly reflects the net disposable income of the Spanish male, so is an indication of the Spanish economy as a whole. The Spanish punter's funds are limited. So hiking prices reduces demand further. Some economist could get a good research paper, out of this.So after being able to still acheive 150/ hour when booking two hours in Scandalo, ventured to Fontana last night (Friday) - been the best club on the CDS for me in the last 2 years. So it proved again. The place has been overrun by south american chicas. Luz. Dom Rep. Past 30 but what an incredible body. Mary. Probably not 24 yet. Santiago Cuba. Superb waist, Shirley, Columbian (yes they're all called Shirley there! Long dark hair. Very white skin. Very pretty. But did I choose any of them? No. Guided by my long-time friend in there Rosa (glasses larger girl but lovely), I selected Ro, Alina. I've had great times in this club with Adela (now in UK) and Alicia (now in Malaga but I don't know where) and had a nice, if not spectaclur time with Alina. Long dark natural hair (no extensions). See cups natural and decent service with a smile. Didn't blow my socks off but very nice. 170 for the hour. A 20 increase since February. I asked why and got the same answer as Lola Sexy "business is slow". I explained that business would pick up if prices were lowered not increased! They don't get it. I explained that pretty girls in FKKs in Germany who charge 50/30 and 100/30 (house rules / more for extras) get a lot of rooms. I was with Catheryn the Great (Oase) last weekend. She did 15 rooms in a day and her record take in a day was 2500 including extras. A lot of the girls in Spain are hoping to get one room to cover house fee let alone two. It's defeating itself.
Glass Palace in Estepona is now standard 200 first asking price before negotiation. BBBJ is hard to negotiate in Spain. Not so in Germany. Yes for July and August 2017 immediatly after the new law it was a bit of a no-no but now it's back to normal and is standard. Spain is at real risk of pricing itself out of the market (at least in clubs). I don't do SW scene or Pasion etc. Too much risk in the first (and lack of quality) and too much bait and switch in latter. I love being in a club and choosing with a beer or two. But I'm afraid the lure of 100+ fully naked girls, around a pool, rubbing suntan lotion into you whilst you swig back a free beer, and for 50/30 in the big FKKs, is blowing Spain away for me. Risk factor on service is no issue in FKKs. You pay 50. If the girl is not performing you don't finish and you move on. You quickly find one you like who performs, have a great hour or so, explosive pop, go eat in the restaurant, sunbathe, maybe sleep, have a swim, watch the beautiful women parade around a pool, or indoors, and then go again when you've recovered. I used to say it's a close contest because by the time you pay 50/60/70 entry it was a close thing financially. It's not so equal now. In Spain, you pick a girl, don't know what the service is going to be like but if you want to get a decent reduction you must book at least an hour and then it might all be disappointing and you've spent 200 before you know it. That would buy entrance and 2 or 3 rooms in Germany. I'm afraid CDS (and Madrid) are losing their allure for me. I'll still come. I like the area and the people, but if I was booking a 4 day mongering trip it would no longer be in Spain.
I can actually understand them, they are in a difficult situation with the house fee of 100 euros. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel that the girls are being taken advantage of by the clubs, is 100€ really a reasonable amount to pay a day?
That's 3 k a month.
I used to consider buying an apartment to rent to the girls, make a reasonable profit on it just as any other landlord.
I won't pay 100€ for 30 minutes, but I would easily pay 300€ for an all night or maybe 200€ for two hours. I might be wrong, but I believe that it's possible to make good deals for longer sessions when they know that they will be able to pay the fee and still make a profit.
Of course there are some money hungry girls wanting to jack the prices up and have a little cartel. Especially considering the fact that some girls are more in demand than others.
I'm afraid / I suspect that the number of punters have gone down and among those there are less money. So maybe the girls have the right strategy.
I still chose Spain over Germany, I prefer Latinas over Romanians, the weather is better in Spain, much better service, I only do two 30 minutes sessions or one hour session a day so it's still comparable to the FKK: s.
FKK Oase 170€.
FKK Artemis 200€.
Scandalo 160€.
Vive 220€.
I still chose Spain over Germany, I prefer Latinas over Romanians, the weather is better in Spain, much better service, I only do two 30 minutes sessions or one hour session a day so it's still comparable to the FKK: s.
FKK Oase 170.
FKK Artemis 200.
Scandalo 160.
Vive 220.This is a fair summary if you only do 2 x30 or 1 x hour. But once you go over that. The FKKs win easily.
Take 2 hours for example:
FKK Oase - 270.
FKK Dietzenbach 200 (don't forget many smaller FKKs are not 70 in and 50/30).
FKK Artemis 320.
Scandalo 320 (if you can find a girl to do 160 now. I had to extend to 2 hours to get 300 but did so it's possible but getting rare).
Vive. Your 220 did not include the 17 entry so its 237 for one hour (without a single drink) and again. In many FKKs (LR / World / Mainhattan the beer is free) and Vive x2 hours is 457.
I’m afraid I very much disagree on “much better service”. It very much depends. I’ve had fantastic sessions (probably my best to be balanced and fair) in Diana Plus and with Melissa in Scandalo (she remains the best looking WG I’ve ever seen). But it can be hit and miss and the beauty of FKKs is the ability to “trial” a girl for 50/30. If she doesn’t perform you didn’t lose much. If the girls get to know you are a 1 hour+ punter (and I’ve managed to get that known in a few FKKs) they definitely provide great service and BBBJ without question (which in Spain is more and more difficult unless you know the girl).
So you'll see that if anyone wants to session longer than an hour FKKs are better value and of course you get to see what you are buying before you go to the room.
I definitely agree on the weather and indeed Spain is generally more pleasant though other than Madrid and Seville its cities cannot compete with Munich, Hamburg and Berlin for interest / things to do during the day.
I did prefer Latinas but as I've got older I don't like the big asses so much and prefer the slim Ro bodies and not getting offered Charlie all of the time!
Final comment which I didn't include. Tried Platinum on Friday before Fontana. Opposite on other side of road bit further down. Big flashing lights - 10 entry for drink token and it was awful. Not one decent girl out of 10 and no party vibe like Fontana has.
Spain will always have its attraction because of the weather but I'm not so sure hiking the prices is attracting the punters. I have a week's trip to plan in May, and all things considered, and having sampled CDS this past week, I for one will be back to Germany where I consider there is more value for my euros. And it pains to say that as I've had my best mongering experiences in Spain.
I explained that business would pick up if prices were lowered not increased! They don't get it. I explained that pretty girls in FKKs in Germany who charge 50/30 and 100/30 (house rules / more for extras) get a lot of rooms. A lot of the girls in Spain are hoping to get one room to cover house fee let alone two. It's defeating itself. BBBJ is hard to negotiate in Spain. Not so in Germany. Yes for July and August 2017 immediately after the new law it was a bit of a no-no but now it's back to normal and is standard. Spain is at real risk of pricing itself out of the market (at least in clubs). I don't do SW scene or Passion etc. Too much risk in the first (and lack of quality) and too much bait and switch in latter. I love being in a club and choosing with a beer or two. But I'm afraid the lure of 100+ fully naked girls, around a pool, rubbing suntan lotion into you whilst you swig back a free beer, and for 50/30 in the big FKKs, is blowing Spain away for me. Risk factor on service is no issue in FKKs. You pay 50. If the girl is not performing you don't finish and you move on. You quickly find one you like who performs, have a great hour or so, explosive pop, go eat in the restaurant, sunbathe, maybe sleep, have a swim, watch the beautiful women parade around a pool, or indoors, and then go again when you've recovered. I used to say it's a close contest because by the time you pay 50/60/70 entry it was a close thing financially. It's not so equal now. In Spain, you pick a girl, don't know what the service is going to be like but if you want to get a decent reduction you must book at least an hour and then it might all be disappointing and you've spent 200 before you know it. That would buy entrance and 2 or 3 rooms in Germany. I'm afraid CDS (and Madrid) are losing their allure for me. I'll still come. I like the area and the people, but if I was booking a 4 day mongering trip it would no longer be in Spain.As much as I love visiting the country of Spain, I agree with you 1,000%! And the girls in Spain don't want to get it. It's greed, and greed is not good! They're pricing themselves out and losing seasoned guys like you and me. The pricing in Spain, combined with service levels, has gotten to be where Germany is the clear winner in my view. You're just too much at risk of not getting value for your money in Spain anymore. BBBJ / CIM service and anal sex is so, so, so much easier to obtain in Germany, and at a favorable price. Plus, you have the food and drink and other facilities. You can make a nice day or evening of it at an FKK, getting more bang for the buck (literally). I enjoyed my last tour of Spain, but I do not plan to return for mongering purposes at this time. Madrid and Barcelona are great cities. Did not like Seville nearly as much, and in fact, liked Malaga better than Seville. Have not been to Valencia, but I have heard from many who have that pound for pound and inch for inch, Valencia just may be the best big city in Spain. In any event, planning to take a long break from Spain for mongering in favor of other destinations such as Germany.
back to Germany where I consider there is more value for my euros. And it pains to say that as I've had my best mongering experiences in Spain.So after ploughing through the pros and cons we arrive at a conclusion. The best punting has been in Spain and the cheaper punting has been in Germany.
Spain is always affected during winter and spring months by many of it's transient WGs heading back to the warmer weather in South America which coincides with the low numbers of European visitors / holiday makers. Mid June both of these factors will dissipate and service will be resumed as normal.
Regarding negotiating in Scandalos as has been hinted before there are more or less set prices there and negotiating reductions successfully is going to be a question of whom you are negotiating with. A 9 or 9. 25 which this Club always has a few WGs to that standard is not going to have to reduce prices. She will have sufficint customers throughout the week to generate enough income and even will be able to pick and choose who she allows to go upstairs with and ride her! During the quieter times she will either go home in a taxi if not residing at the club or just tough it out until there are more customers. The 9's and 9.25's operate on a different set of working rules compared to the 7's and 8's. They pick and choose their customer not the other way around. If you have attended Clubs over the years you would have definietly seen a 9 being incredibly rude to a customer that she does not want riding her or have to suck off!
In terms of the WGs discounting. It's their regulars that will get a private deal or rate. They will have the SPs mobile number and will be able to seal a deal based on a reglar service and one that might even be out of Club hours and in the WG's own flat!
Scandalos also has a large grouping amongst its clintel of young Moroccan drud dealers and associates to the drug smuggling syndicates. That economical grouping never has a financial down turn so the Scandalo WGs won't need to reduce offer prices to a group that throw money around in Clubs " like there is no tomorrow ".
So after ploughing through the pros and cons we arrive at a conclusion. The best punting has been in Spain and the cheaper punting has been in Germany.
In terms of the WGs discounting. It's their regulars that will get a private deal or rate. They will have the SPs mobile number and will be able to seal a deal based on a reglar serviceAll fair points but my use of the past tense was deliberate and important here. Best punting was in Spain. Its not now IMHO. The Cane is right: service levels in Germany are now better. Spain was fine on BBBJ / CIM and other services but its declined. BBBJ in Vive or Scandalo now is not the norm. Its possible to find it but not usual. I totally agree about the best looking girls being choosy. Nothing wrong with that and its exactly the same in FKKs. Indeed there is another factor in play in FKKs. Many girls hit on Asian clients only knowing that they will often cum within 10 minutes and its a very quick, cheap and pussy-saving 50/30. That doesn't really happen in Spain. Or if it does I haven't seen it.
But I found for example in Fontana the other night that even whilst asking the latinas (historically more willing on BBBJ / extras) they looked shocked to be asked for BBBJ and don't even try to upsell it but simply say they don't do it. Not all. But some. That is incredibly rare in Germany / Austria / Switzerland. It's also rare in Thailand but I won't accept BBBJ there since the new strain of Gonorrhoea which is incurable and mainly prevalent in Asia.
I am suprised The Cane didn't like Sevilla. Whilst its punting options have also declined badly since the amazing days of Jardin del Diablo (showing my age. Possibly my favourite club of all time) the city is spectacular with a lot of things to do. Valencia is a modern city and not very Spanish but thriving. I've not mongered there so could not say. I'm thinking I might make a trip to Barcelona. Haven't been for years and maybe that can offer something.
It's not about knocking the girls or indeed Spain. I love Spain. It's one of my favourite places in the World. But the mongering has seen a decline (for those who like the Clubs) in recent years with service levels not being what they were and prices going higher than they need to be.
I agree with ShooBree on a previous post of his. Paying 200 for 2 hours is really good value and it is still achievable in Estark 92 and Diana Plus for the reason I've given. The girls use their own rooms and can negotiate their own prices. But its not easy and as you rightly said. You are unlikely to get that from a top ranking girl. But there is the proof. In an FKK (other than Artemis which is 60/30 and 120/60) you get to room with the very top girl for 200 for 2 hours. Or indeed ANY girl for that price. It doesn't only apply to 7's. It is the same price for every girl, and with BBBJ in for free (in most clubs. Bavarian clubs always charged more).
One thing is for sure. The won't take prices down. For me, and clearly for The Cane. And no doubt other punters like us, this means that the hike in prices in Spain, combined with the offering (food / free booze / rest areas / hammam / sauna / professional massage / gyms {in some clubs e. G. Artemis}, then add the free additional services, and prices being the same for the 9's as it is for the 7's, all adds up to Spain becoming unattractive based on price (and service) alone. It is therefore unfair to class it as "Spain is best / Germany is cheaper". That's just not correct. Germany has become better as prices have not been hiked. Maybe they will follow. It won't mean I'll never monger in Spain. I love it too much and I really like Scandalos / Diana Plus and Fontana and have made friends of staff and many girls there. But it has, without question for me at least, become less attractive than it formerly was and less competitive and indeed Rosa (in Fontana 2 nights ago) gave me the same view from the point of view of the WG. When I asked her why she didn't lower her prices (not my type anyway TBH but I really like talking to her), she said that if she or other girls did that it would quickly become known in the club and she would be ostracised. The girls who have worked there for some time know it. They probably have little control over it and if the house fee is 100 as ShooBree says then I totally agree it is unfair and hardly any wonder as they cannot win.
One can only hope that the current trend to increase prices abates. A glimmer of hope. After the 2007 recession the same thing happened with golf courses in Spain! Prices rocketed and golfers wouldn't play the best courses. The lower the customers the higher the prices went to make big bucks on those who did play! Crazy economics. They finally got it and prices tumbled, the golfers returned and normal service was resumed. Let's hope for a repeat in Spanish mongering. I suspect I'm dreaming!
I am surprised The Cane didn't like Sevilla. Whilst its punting options have also declined badly since the amazing days of Jardin del Diablo (showing my age. Possibly my favourite club of all time) the city is spectacular with a lot of things to do. Valencia is a modern city and not very Spanish but thriving. I've not mongered there so could not say. I'm thinking I might make a trip to Barcelona. Haven't been for years and maybe that can offer something.For whatever reason, this reminded me of a funny story. I was talking to a cab driver in Madrid, and I asked him where he was from. He said he was an immigrant. I asked where from, and he said Andalucia hahahaha! I asked again to make sure I had heard him right, and I had. He said his father had come to Madrid from Andalucia, and that Andalucia was not "Spain" LOL! It was a reminder that the country we call Spain is a patchwork of autonomous regions where many people don't feel "Spanish" at all. Of course, look at what is going on in Catalonia today. And PayforIt, and I can say that I did have some memorable sex in Sevilla with girls from The Dominican Republic, Cuba, and of course Romania (one Romanian tried to tell me she was Russian but was easily "outed" hehehe). These tutes! Why do they think I won't go with them just because of where the are from? But I'm like you! I love Spain! Fantastic country! But when it comes to the sex, Germany is the place in Europe for me right now!
NecessaryEvil
04-22-18, 20:03
Heads up guys.
Just had a whatsapp message from "Sacha" English. New premises open for business, same prices as original Fuengirola Port. Says it is near to Dunne's Stores in the centre of Fuengirola. NOT the one near MiraMar near the WOK.
+34 63xxxx1 79.
Not been yet, ain't happening for at least a week due to work commitments.
Andalus Expat
04-23-18, 09:49
Heads up guys.
Just had a whatsapp message from "Sacha" English. New premises open for business, same prices as original Fuengirola Port. Says it is near to Dunne's Stores in the centre of Fuengirola. NOT the one near MiraMar near the WOK..Sounds possible. Sacha in Russian is a contraction of Alexanda. And there's an Alex who's an amiga of Kevin, (Took over from Tony) Comes from Brighton not Sochi. I've just messaged Michelle, used to be at FP. She'll find out & get back to me.
At The Cane there's certainly a lot of the rest of Spain regards Andalucia as a separate country. And the Andalus as a bunch of robbers & gypsies. It was the poorest part of Spain when I first came down here at the end of the sixties & there's little doubt corruption & fraud are pretty well endemic. A political career features a stretch inside is virtually normal. Andalus the dialect, doesn't help either, you ever hear it.
And apologies for the previous post as Lola Sexy, guys. A sex-change & tats are not amongst my ambitions. Was setting up an ad in the classified section for a xica working here & forgot to log-out at the end of the session.
Andalus Expat
04-23-18, 11:13
Saw this in Payforit's post:
"I agree with ShooBree on a previous post of his. Paying 200 for 2 hours is really good value and it is still achievable in Estark 92 and Diana Plus for the reason I've given. The girls use their own rooms and can negotiate their own prices. But its not easy and as you rightly said. You are unlikely to get that from a top ranking girl."
The other thing's it's very hard to get around the girls' overwhelming sense of entitlement. Which most of them have. If one girl's fetching 100€ a trick then they should be getting 100€. To the girls, they're all top ranking performers, in their own eyes. It's an odd profession. We all know that our personal talents are valued in the employment market to produce our incomes. But not many of us are having them validated several times a day. Or have our opinion of ourselves so closely entwined with them, because so many of the girls seem to have so little of a life outside of their work.
So if one girl hikes her price, you can be sure other girls will be following her. And the Spanish mentality doesn't help. It's not unusual to find a downturn in turnover for a restaurant or other business produces a response of raising prices in an attempt to maintain income. Despite that being a recipe for commercial suicide. Mentioned in relation to golf course prices, below.
Saw this in Payforit's post:
"I agree with ShooBree on a previous post of his. Paying 200 for 2 hours is really good value and it is still achievable in Estark 92 and Diana Plus for the reason I've given. The girls use their own rooms and can negotiate their own prices. But its not easy and as you rightly said. You are unlikely to get that from a top ranking girl."
The other thing's it's very hard to get around the girls' overwhelming sense of entitlement. Which most of them have. If one girl's fetching 100 a trick then they should be getting 100. To the girls, they're all top ranking performers, in their own eyes. It's an odd profession. We all know that our personal talents are valued in the employment market to produce our incomes. But not many of us are having them validated several times a day. Or have our opinion of ourselves so closely entwined with them, because so many of the girls seem to have so little of a life outside of their work..The Estark employment rules IE True self employed compared to Scandalos semi self employed does as has already been observed mean Estark Putas can and do negotiate their own rates and riding price deals. So the savvy poker playing straight faced customer can negotiate a session at a bargain price compared to the 1st offers being accepted by less canny negotiators.
The range of SPs in a Club IE from 6's to 9.25's do not play the putas game from a level playing field. The Scandalo rules of employment mean that the 9's determine the rates in the Club. They can refuse to budge from their opening offer and as has been seen previously the canny ones will have an opening offer in excess of the Club rate. If the client does not negotiate her down she makes more money than normal. The 6's get shunned and bullied if they break the market rate and they are not in a position of power unlike the really attractive WGs. CA savvy Club manager can fire 10 or 15 7's compared to firing a 9. 9's bring in business 6's and 7's are dependant on 9's being in a Club for them to make money. Look at Latidos Glass Palace Malaga can't keep a decent looking WG there for more than 10 dyas and is always empty. Put 4 or 5 9's in there for 6 weeks and would establish itself as a competitive venue to Scandalos. The 9's are already getting more offers to ride than they want to accept so for sure they will not be discounting. What one would consider are the rules of the market get broken by them as until there are virtually no punters in a Club they will maintain their rates and the 7's who want to and probably need to reduce rates can't because there is not a free bargaining opportunity as price reducers are going to be ganged up on even by 7. 5's and 8's as the over all group of Putas are being driven by the minority, which are the most attractive.
To help understand this imagine Bentley set the market price for cars which all manufactures had to agree with we would all be riding bicycles whilst millionaires would still be in their Bentleys. Infact Bentley would increase their sales.
The solution would be to find a Club where instead of the 9's being 8% of the WGs they were 35% then they would have to compete in pricing with one and other to attract clients as there would be too many of them to monopolise the client base in the club. When you realise that within the 100 WGs they are divided in to sub groups then you will under stand how the price structure of increasing rates does work for a proportion of them. The 9's earn more money and get ridden less. It's win win for them.
Think you have misunderstood the entitlement observation. From what ever age they have decided to sell their pussies they are taught to get as much as possible for it! Naturally no WG admits there is a more attractive or more sexy Puta in the Club but but I don't see that as being a sense of entitlement. No one like to sell something and realise your friend sold theirs for twice as much. As they are selling Pussy which comes with lots of social stigmas the psyche behind is different from selling other non-stigmatised goods and services.
Andalus Expat
04-24-18, 08:35
You're only talking about club girls. Which are a relatively small part of Spain's puta community. There are also the casas, the apartment xicas, the independents, the agency girls right down to the street & roundabout girls who ply the poliginos & the roadsides. There's an awful lot of putas in Spain. And this board tends to look at things from a visitor's point of view. To the girls, you're the icing on the cake. The vast majority of punters, even in the clubs, are Spanish. The coast has a few clubs & a few girls. Almost every town in Spain, be it ever so humble, has at least one club. And most of those towns don't see a mongering tourist from one year to another. The xica staying with me at the moment was last working a club in Zaragoza. Have you ever been to Zaragoza? Ignoring the usual flamboyant Spanish architecture it's a consummate shit-hole stuck out in the middle of nowhere. The sort of place, if you're born there, your main ambition is to leave. Another's Aranda de Duero. Which I became quite familiar with, when I was stuck there for a few days, couple years ago. One medium sized club on the outskirts, two small & quite horrifying ones near the bull-ring. Looking for entertainment, on Pasion, it was a virtual desert. Sheerest luck I bumped into an afternoon of phenomenally filthy action in one of the bars. Checked it out on Pasion again, recently. Likely I'll be back up that way and hopeful of renewing the acquaintance. If the ads are to be believed it was stuffed full of delicious talent. Why? The sheep?
And to the girls, this is all one market. Bar the settled independents, they're all in permanent migration from one place to another. They come. They go. They work clubs. They work apartments. One reason I've never seen much point in club reviews is that they're just a snapshot in time. The only thing that is static is a few of the Spanish regulars. Couple of weeks later it can be an entirely different club.
Glass Palace in Estepona is now standard 200 first asking price before negotiation. BBBJ is hard to negotiate in Spain. Not so in Germany. Yes for July and August 2017 immediatly after the new law it was a bit of a no-no but now it's back to normal and is standard. Spain is at real risk of pricing itself out of the market (at least in clubs). I don't do SW scene or Pasion etc. Too much risk in the first (and lack of quality) and too much bait and switch in latter. I love being in a club and choosing with a beer or two. But I'm afraid the lure of 100+ fully naked girls, around a pool, rubbing suntan lotion into you whilst you swig back a free beer, and for 50/30 in the big FKKs, is blowing Spain away for me. Risk factor on service is no issue in FKKs. You pay 50. If the girl is not performing you don't finish and you move on. You quickly find one you like who performs, have a great hour or so, explosive pop, go eat in the restaurant, sunbathe, maybe sleep, have a swim, watch the beautiful women parade around a pool, or indoors, and then go again when you've recovered. I used to say it's a close contest because by the time you pay 50/60/70 entry it was a close thing financially. It's not so equal now. In Spain, you pick a girl, don't know what the service is going to be like but if you want to get a decent reduction you must book at least an hour and then it might all be disappointing and you've spent 200 before you know it. That would buy entrance and 2 or 3 rooms in Germany. I'm afraid CDS (and Madrid) are losing their allure for me. I'll still come. I like the area and the people, but if I was booking a 4 day mongering trip it would no longer be in Spain.Hi PayForit,
Thanks for your recent contributions. Always great getting the views and hearing of other experiences even if they do not entirely match my own. From recent conversations and also reading the reviews of FKKs visitors I hear of experience constant upselling and minimal service levels as these WGs are servicing 8 to 12 customers a day. Can you point me in the direction of the better Clubs where OWO is included and service is to a high standard? Thanks in advance.
Delta Indigo
04-24-18, 19:57
So after being able to still acheive 150/ hour when booking two hours in Scandalo, ventured to Fontana last night (Friday) - been the best club on the CDS for me in the last 2 years. So it proved again. The place has been overrun by south american chicas. Luz. Dom Rep. Past 30 but what an incredible body. Mary. Probably not 24 yet. Santiago Cuba. Superb waist, Shirley, Columbian (yes they're all called Shirley there! Long dark hair. Very white skin. Very pretty. But did I choose any of them? No. Guided by my long-time friend in there Rosa (glasses larger girl but lovely), I selected Ro, Alina. I've had great times in this club with Adela (now in UK) and Alicia (now in Malaga but I don't know where) and had a nice, if not spectaclur time with Alina. Long dark natural hair (no extensions). See cups natural and decent service with a smile. Didn't blow my socks off but very nice. 170 for the hour. A 20 increase since February. I asked why and got the same answer as Lola Sexy "business is slow". I explained that business would pick up if prices were lowered not increased! They don't get it. I explained that pretty girls in FKKs in Germany who charge 50/30 and 100/30 (house rules / more for extras) get a lot of rooms. I was with Catheryn the Great (Oase) last weekend. She did 15 rooms in a day and her record take in a day was 2500 including extras. A lot of the girls in Spain are hoping to get one room to cover house fee let alone two. It's defeating itself.
Glass Palace in Estepona is now standard 200 first asking price before negotiation. BBBJ is hard to negotiate in Spain. Not so in Germany. Yes for July and August 2017 immediatly after the new law it was a bit of a no-no but now it's back to normal and is standard. Spain is at real risk of pricing itself out of the market (at least in clubs). I don't do SW scene or Pasion etc. Too much risk in the first (and lack of quality) and too much bait and switch in latter. I love being in a club and choosing with a beer or two. But I'm afraid the lure of 100+ fully naked girls, around a pool, rubbing suntan lotion into you whilst you swig back a free beer, and for 50/30 in the big FKKs, is blowing Spain away for me. Risk factor on service is no issue in FKKs. You pay 50. If the girl is not performing you don't finish and you move on. You quickly find one you like who performs, have a great hour or so, explosive pop, go eat in the restaurant, sunbathe, maybe sleep, have a swim, watch the beautiful women parade around a pool, or indoors, and then go again when you've recovered. I used to say it's a close contest because by the time you pay 50/60/70 entry it was a close thing financially. It's not so equal now. In Spain, you pick a girl, don't know what the service is going to be like but if you want to get a decent reduction you must book at least an hour and then it might all be disappointing and you've spent 200 before you know it. That would buy entrance and 2 or 3 rooms in Germany. I'm afraid CDS (and Madrid) are losing their allure for me. I'll still come. I like the area and the people, but if I was booking a 4 day mongering trip it would no longer be in Spain.I agree totally, I have had 3 recent mongering trips in Spain (Madrid and Malaga) vs many in Germany. The funny thing is this, clubs wise even Switzerland is competitive with Spain. The Globe and Vive Madrid, literally cost the same and the Globe's service levels are unquestionably better. There are many clubs in Switzerland, Club Swiss, Club History, Club Palace that are competitive with Scandalos and offer unquestionably better service.
I love Spain, the culture, food and landscape and although I like Germany too, I think that Spain is far more interesting in many ways, but it really is not a good destination for mongering, it is only good for mongering if you are going there anyhow.
Darling Cabaret in Prague where BBBJ is very difficult to get, costs the same as the Globe, and no one would think that is okay, so why do they think the prices in Spanish clubs is at all justified? Furthermore from what I have read, Barcelona is even more expensive than Madrid.
..........., clubs wise even Switzerland is competitive with Spain. The Globe and Vive Madrid, literally cost the same and the Globe's service levels are unquestionably better. There are many clubs in Switzerland, Club Swiss, Club History, Club Palace that are competitive with Scandalos and offer unquestionably better service................. but it really is not a good destination for mongering, it is only good for mongering if you are going there anyhow. ....................... Furthermore from what I have read, Barcelona is even more expensive than Madrid.Hi Delta Indigo,
It helps everyone when making these blanket statements if you can supply supporting statements. The deal at Scandalos, Club, Music, Ambience, number of high rated WGs, Security, Quality of Rooms, a selection of WGs greater than just Moldova etc, etc does justify the prices if you get a 9 that rides well. The endless praising of FKKs flys in the face of other contributors of Puta reviewing sites as well as the Deutshland section here for Fkks. Over worked girls getting banged too much up to 10 rides a day, arrogant Romanian attitudes, up selling of OWO are just a few of the repeated comments.
Please expand on these "unquestionable better service."
Barcelona is more expensive for most things compared to Madrid so WGs in top Brothels will be more expensive too. Comparing Schweiz with Vive Madrid is not a viable comparison. Neither can you compare Madrid with Barcelona. Its Clubs vs Brothels for those two. Madrid has at least 40 Clubs 10 of which are very large so Vive does not totally represent the Spanish Puta scene and neither does it represent the Madrid scene. It's just it's biggest, most populous of WGs and probably best known and with those factors most expensive.
Spain is a great destination for mongering. Not so good in the winter if you go to a tourist beach area of course and as many of it's SPs are transient from South America you will need to be here in July when they return for the better climate and more tourists. If your experience is primary Scandalos that is a unique Club that should not form your judgement of all the Puta scene in Spain.
The revolving door in these comparison conversations always returns to cost. We all get it that if you spend 7 hours in an FKK don't drink, live off their humble fayre and ride 5 Roms without paying for up sells at E50.00 for 30 minutes yes outside of Greece we won't see combined price in any other European land but that is not the ideal visit for everyone or how all punter judge a memorable mongering experience.
Please do reply with the best choice of Fkks in Deutschland and please do factor in the bow legged and bandy Romanians from those double digit of punters each day that still have a positive attitude, don't upsell and enjoy being banged hard.
Delta Indigo
04-24-18, 23:31
Hi Delta Indigo,
It helps everyone when making these blanket statements if you can supply supporting statements. The deal at Scandalos, Club, Music, Ambience, number of high rated WGs, Security, Quality of Rooms, a selection of WGs greater than just Moldova etc, etc does justify the prices if you get a 9 that rides well. The endless praising of FKKs flys in the face of other contributors of Puta reviewing sites as well as the Deutshland section here for Fkks. Over worked girls getting banged too much up to 10 rides a day, arrogant Romanian attitudes, up selling of OWO are just a few of the repeated comments.
Please expand on these "unquestionable better service."
Barcelona is more expensive for most things compared to Madrid so WGs in top Brothels will be more expensive too. Comparing Schweiz with Vive Madrid is not a viable comparison. Neither can you compare Madrid with Barcelona. Its Clubs vs Brothels for those two. Madrid has at least 40 Clubs 10 of which are very large so Vive does not totally represent the Spanish Puta scene and neither does it represent the Madrid scene. It's just it's biggest, most populous of WGs and probably best known and with those factors most expensive.
Spain is a great destination for mongering. Not so good in the winter if you go to a tourist beach area of course and as many of it's SPs are transient from South America you will need to be here in July when they return for the better climate and more tourists. If your experience is primary Scandalos that is a unique Club that should not form your judgement of all the Puta scene in Spain.
The revolving door in these comparison conversations always returns to cost. We all get it that if you spend 7 hours in an FKK don't drink, live off their humble fayre and ride 5 Roms without paying for up sells at E50.00 for 30 minutes yes outside of Greece we won't see combined price in any other European land but that is not the ideal visit for everyone or how all punter judge a memorable mongering experience.
Please do reply with the best choice of Fkks in Deutschland and please do factor in the bow legged and bandy Romanians from those double digit of punters each day that still have a positive attitude, don't upsell and enjoy being banged hard.Well I have been to Spain, and you can read other opinions about the quality of service in Switzerland. This is not something obscure, it is well known. Some say and I agree service is better in Germany than Spain. Well guess what, service in Switzerland is very high, and better than Germany. You don't have to be a genius to realize this. Read the forums, in Germany you can get comparable service, in Switzerland it is virtually guaranteed and it costs the same as Spain, that makes Spain an awful deal club wise. These are far from blanket statements, I have experience in all three locations.
Hi Delta Indigo,
It helps everyone when making these blanket statements if you can supply supporting statements. The deal at Scandalos, Club, Music, Ambience, number of high rated WGs, Security, Quality of Rooms,
We all get it that if you spend 7 hours in an FKK don't drink, live off their humble fayre and ride 5 Roms without paying for up sells at E50.00 for 30 minutes yes outside of Greece we won't see combined price in any other European land but that is not the ideal visit for everyone or how all punter judge a memorable mongering experience.
Please do reply with the best choice of Fkks in Deutschland I'm afraid this is not fair. Reasons: First, rooms in Scandalo are really horribly basic. Uncomfortable flat queen beds, cold lighting options and unless you go to the domination room in the roof (which is very nice) it's poor. All compensated for by the stunning (bandy legged) Melissa.
Few guys spend 7 hours in FKK not drinking, eating rubbish etc. My typical day for example at Artemis: Arrive 1 pm. Pay entrance. Into gym for hard workout for 1. 5 hours. Shower, food (not bad but not awful). 3. 30 pm (weather dependant) relax by pool watching lots of naked woman wander by attempting to entice. Fabulous. 4. 30 pm professional massage for 1 hour by pool after sauna / shower. 6 pm first circuit of club and first room maybe 6. 30 pm to 7. 30 pm. Relax / swim / watch kino / sleep for an hour.
8. 30 -9 pm back into the action. Beer or two, search for second room with one of the best girls for 1-2 hours session. 11 pm relax. Either head home, watch some sport on downstairs sky tv, or recover for final punt if so inclined, finishing no later than 2 am. Taxi back to Hotel Aspria (10 euros). Magnificent day. Minimum 2 rooms, often more if weather poor. Decent food, nice beers, great sights by the pool / outdoors, BBBJ in kino / gym / workout / professonal massage and a pick of over 120 girls. I'm afraid price doesn't really enter into it for me, however I walk out having done all of this for about the same price as a 2 hour session in Vive. Being surrounded by 120 naked ladies makes me feel like Julius Cesear himself.
Best clubs in Germany for my money are FKK Oase (and the absolutely strikingly stunning Katheryn the Great. Runs Melissa very close for top looking girl of all time), FKK Sharks in Darmstadt (bigger selection), Artemis, FKK Sunshine (Munich), Atmos and Harmony (Hamburg), Paradise Stuttgart (on right day) Oceans Dusseldorf, Samya Cologne, World (north of Frankfurt. Amazing rooms, gardens, pool and free beer) and Sakura (Boblingen). I haven't done Golden Time in Bruggen but plan to, or Acapulco Velbert but both get excellent reviews. The service is no less than in Spain and BBBJ is all but guaranteed mainly with no upsell. As I reported. There was a short period of upselling after the law change in July 17 - but its now back to normal.
So why do Spain at all? Here's the answer. As others have reported. It's just a better country and more interesting (and has better weather) than Germany. Add to that the ability to monger and it still ranks highly for me. I started this, and hopefully will close it with a simple comment. The Clubs and girls in Spain need to be careful not to overprice too much to lead to them closing. The service is not always that good, no BBBJ, no naked women, no other offerings (as above), no idea of what the girl will actually look like in the rooms (which compared to say FKK Mainhattan, Paradise or most at Sharks and Artemis. Are really poor). So Spain's attractions are actually more out of the clubs than in them. The food / culture / cities etc. My simple point is that prices have increased in Spain making it rather less viable as an option that previously given the choices elsewhere.
MagicSheep74
04-25-18, 17:31
Well I have been to Spain, and you can read other opinions about the quality of service in Switzerland. This is not something obscure, it is well known. Some say and I agree service is better in Germany than Spain. Well guess what, service in Switzerland is very high, and better than Germany. You don't have to be a genius to realize this. Read the forums, in Germany you can get comparable service, in Switzerland it is virtually guaranteed and it costs the same as Spain, that makes Spain an awful deal club wise. These are far from blanket statements, I have experience in all three locations.My 2 cents. After mongering in all 3 countries.
1. Spain. Why - Fun and Variety. I am a night person, love to drink and have fun, then go to the room for a wild time.
2. Switzerland. I would visit again as Globe was pretty good and in general I liked Zurich more than Frankfurt or Berlin.
3. Germany. Functional and Organised. Lack of fun and variety - 95% + Romanians / Lost interest. The onsite cinema, gym, sauna, sleeping area's have no interest to me. I am there to have sex, not workout.
Cost. I spend whatever I have in my pocket regardless of which country I go. I take out a set amount of money, once its gone, I go home. I believe all 3 countries workout more or less the same cost.
My advice. Try all 3 places and enjoy. Different strokes for different folks.
I believe all 3 countries workout more or less the same cost.I don't know how you arrive at this conclusion. I too have mongered in all 3 countries and know that Switzerland is in a whole other price league, at least how I roll. From the time you arrive everything from ground transportation to hotel rooms to food to pussy costs more. And I mean a lot more! The place is so expensive that they even had a vote on whether or not to set the minimum wage at $25 per hour, which would have been the highest minimum wage in the entire world! The way I roll, Switzerland is easily the most expensive with no other place being close. It's in a league of it's own in Europe. I'll take Germany thank you. Many of the same girls working in Switzerland have worked in Germany and vice versa. Germany = the best value for your money from among the 3 nations being discussed here. The proof is in the pudding. Have a look at the following list, and note the cities tied for number 2 and at number 6. Now, I don't care whose list you're looking at. Those two cities routinely show up!
http://mentalfloss.com/article/536315/these-are-worlds-10-most-expensive-cities
Delta Indigo
04-25-18, 18:27
I don't know how you arrive at this conclusion. I too have mongered in all 3 countries and know that Switzerland is in a whole other price league, at least how I roll. From the time you arrive everything from ground transportation to hotel rooms to food to pussy costs more. And I mean a lot more! The place is so expensive that they even had a vote on whether or not to set the minimum wage at $25 per hour, which would have been the highest minimum wage in the entire world! The way I roll, Switzerland is easily the most expensive with no other place being close. It's in a league of it's own in Europe. I'll take Germany thank you. Many of the same girls working in Switzerland have worked in Germany and vice versa. Germany = the best value for your money from among the 3 nations being discussed here. The proof is in the pudding. Have a look at the following list, and note cities tied for number 2 and at number 6. Now, I don't care whose list you're looking at. Those two cities routinely show up!
http://mentalfloss.com/article/536315/these-are-worlds-10-most-expensive-citiesThe non mongering side of Switzerland is very expensive and Spain is relatively very inexpensive, in fact Spain makes Germany look expensive to me and Germany is very cost effective. However the club mongering side of Switzerland is comparable to the the prices in most of the popular clubs in Spain, Vive and Scandalos vs. Club Swiss, Club History and Club Palace. I know Diana Plus or whatever it is called is different.
In my experience BBBJ is often refused in Spain, although almost all girls I went with agreed to it, so you can find it, but it is far more common in Germany and a given in Switzerland. I find it hard to believe that someone would think service in Spain compares to Switzerland in general.
That was my whole point initially, that is where I was agreeing with a lot of other ISGers, that Spain is not cost effective for mongering. Now for hotels, food (I love Spanish food) and red wine, Spain beats most other mongering destinations by a mile.
MagicSheep74
04-25-18, 19:07
I don't know how you arrive at this conclusion. I too have mongered in all 3 countries and know that Switzerland is in a whole other price league, at least how I roll. From the time you arrive everything from ground transportation to hotel rooms to food to pussy costs more. And I mean a lot more! The place is so expensive that they even had a vote on whether or not to set the minimum wage at $25 per hour, which would have been the highest minimum wage in the entire world! The way I roll, Switzerland is easily the most expensive with no other place being close. It's in a league of it's own in Europe. I'll take Germany thank you. Many of the same girls working in Switzerland have worked in Germany and vice versa. Germany = the best value for your money from among the 3 nations being discussed here. The proof is in the pudding. Have a look at the following list, and note the cities tied for number 2 and at number 6. Now, I don't care whose list you're looking at. Those two cities routinely show up!
http://mentalfloss.com/article/536315/these-are-worlds-10-most-expensive-citiesIf the discussion is regarding value for money. Then Germany wins, apart from streetwalkers in Spain, then Asia of course, so on and so on.
If a person enjoys the spa experience whilst hammering through a bunch of Romanian gypsies, then Germany wins again.
But, if a person enjoys a more wide variety of cultures in a less mechanical, more fun environment, then Spain wins in my opinion.
My comment regarding. More or less the same cost. I simply allocate myself a set amount for a weekend, then spend it. Of course is Zurich is a more expensive city than Malaga, but I spend the same when I am out in both cities. Its just that I get the most satisfaction from mongering in Spain.
I'm afraid this is not fair. Reasons: First, rooms in Scandalo are really horribly basic. Uncomfortable flat queen beds, cold lighting options and unless you go to the domination room in the roof (which is very nice) it's poor. All compensated for by the stunning (bandy legged) Melissa.
Few guys spend 7 hours in FKK not drinking, eating rubbish etc. My typical day for example at Artemis: Arrive 1 pm. Pay entrance. Into gym for hard workout for 1. 5 hours. Shower, food (not bad but not awful). 3. 30 pm (weather dependant) relax by pool watching lots of naked woman wander by attempting to entice. Fabulous. 4. 30 pm professional massage for 1 hour by pool after sauna / shower. 6 pm first circuit of club and first room maybe 6. 30 pm to 7. 30 pm. Relax / swim / watch kino / sleep for an hour.
8. 30 -9 pm back into the action. Beer or two, search for second room with one of the best girls for 1-2 hours session..Hi PayForIt,
Great report and info. At last a FKK fan that actually can find reasons for his preference. Glad you have enjoyed your time there but does not really entice me to be there for that length of time. LOL about the criticism of Scandalos rooms. Really!
My 2 cents. After mongering in all 3 countries.
1. Spain. Why - Fun and Variety. I am a night person, love to drink and have fun, then go to the room for a wild time.
2. Switzerland. I would visit again as Globe was pretty good and in general I liked Zurich more than Frankfurt or Berlin.
3. Germany. Functional and Organised. Lack of fun and variety - 95% + Romanians / Lost interest. The onsite cinema, gym, sauna, sleeping area's have no interest to me. I am there to have sex, not workout.
Cost. I spend whatever I have in my pocket regardless of which country I go. I take out a set amount of money, once its gone, I go home. I believe all 3 countries workout more or less the same cost.
My advice. Try all 3 places and enjoy. Different strokes for different folks.Great summary Magic! I'm in the 1st category with you. As was recently posted the FKK Fan boys are enjoying 7 hours worth of ploughing through Gypsies for E50/30 minutes but each to their own LOL. I can imagine Globe would be pretty good and when I was last in Schweiz in bars it was apparent their were many Latina WG but never had the opportunity to investigate them as to where they operate or how much. The daily money just spent on eating drinking hotels was huge so for sure that Country will cost twice or three as much a Spain for a trip. That money spent in Madrid goes a lot further!
Each to his own, I've stopped going to Germany since I believe Spain is so much better when it comes to mongering.
The service is better and it's cheaper for me, especially considering the fact that the wg: s in Germany won't honor the time. The wg: s in the FKK: s are notoriously known for their uppselling. In Spain I can get 45 minutes for a 30 minutes session, in Germany I can get 15 minutes.
It's also easier to negotiate toda la noche outside the club for a fair price in Spain.
The food is terrible and I don't put any value on the amenities.
Guys, we're all senior members and regular contributors and this debate is endless as we all have our own preferences based on individual tastes, experiences, etc. So let's, as Payforit has proposed, end it now and revert back to what the forum and this thread is meant for, and that is sharing experiences and recommending clubs, brothels, girls, etc on the CDS? Pretty please, I am getting very bored and NOT SO-Happy?
EddyTheEagle2
04-27-18, 14:07
Don't know what happened to our friend Viajando but I was in Scandalo last Wednesday. Abrahim still on the door, same staff and decent selection of girls.Hi,
We must have missed each other for a drink then, and "war stories"! You are right that it was OK but not busy between 00.30 and 03.00. And a few with "big bunda". I had just returned from "Fontana" and a stop-over in "E-Stark" to meet Viajando for a beer.
"Fontana" early in the evening (20.00 - 20.30) about 10 girls and only me: sessioned with a blond Brazilian girl. And I made the schoolboy-mistake: there in no ATM so when you pay by (bank-) card they charge you 10% commission. Ggggrrrrr. On my way to the exit I met Mary from Dom. Republic: wooow: why didn't I see her before? OK, next visit I'll go for her!
In "E-Stark" around 23.00 about 40 girls and 30 men: good atmosphere! The girl I had sessioned with on Monday came to me again but this time I was there to have social talk with Viajando. So no session in "E-Stark" tonight. By the way, my favorite girl Florentina was in her homecountry and her small blond girlfriend was (not yet) my type.
From "E-Stark" to "Scandalo" ("San Miguel 0,0" is less better than a genuine "Heineken" but when driving drinking is "not done" !) I started in the bar of "MN" (stunning waitress!) with a few 1/2 liters and then to "S"; I was "invited" by a group of 4 girls (in the smoking area) but after a few minutes I decided that these group of "big bunda's" where not my cup of tea. And Camilla just went to the room with a client. So after a few more "Heineken" I decided to spent my money "in the street" (I stayed in "IBIS-budget" which is on walking-distance from "S") so a very slim African girl finished my night with a fantastic blow-job for just E 10. As we say in Holland: "You can only spent your money once: a "Heineken" OR a blowjob". I did both! LOL.
Thursday-night I spent my night in hotel Guadecorte-park close to "Fontana": very good hotel but this time bad weather (cloudy and 13*C) and I had work to do so no time for mongering.
Viajando Musico
05-03-18, 09:40
I have been occupied on the business side, and haven't got the chance to answer some questions, so here are my responses.
Hi VM,
How did you research your Private SPs. From past experience this is time consuming and sometimes involves long driving distances and horrendous parking! I have always started this research 2 weeks before arriving on the CDS and now mainly from Passion.com!
Estark has for me in recent years been a better Club for a fun couple of hours. I have always found the SPs at Scandalos more attractive but less willing to really give a memorable time upstairs. The attitude, banter and as you say the SPs willingness to engage. Did Marina say whether she was a regular there or passing through? What was her appearance, body shape and performance like?
I used a Spanish forum Lumis Malaga to get local references a week before my CDS trip, but didn't really check them out due to limited time.
I found Estark to be the same for me as it for you. Girls were much more willing to converse with you, not aggressively, than in Scandalo. As to Mariana, she is a young passionate Brasilera with beautiful face and an incredible butte. She didn't reply to my last whatsapp message a week ago, so I am not sure if she is still there. She told me she is only in Europe for 3 months, so grab her if you still find her in Estark.
Good report VM and thanks for the feedback!
Who did you visit in the private flats and can you make recommendations?
The fact is that the scene at the clubs change over time and can also be very different from one night to the next. Maybe the ladies at Scandalos have got lazy and spoilt and the Estark ladies realise that they have serious competition and need to try harder?For the private flats, I visited Mia and Noelia (not the Noelia, Andalus Expat's friend). Both practice their trade close to Fuengirola Port. Mia was recommended by Andalus Expat. I believe she is from Dominican Republic, a young Morenita about 25 yrs old. Service was OK, but I had better ones. 100 euro /1 HR. Second one was Noelia http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/un-expres-20-llamame-y-informare-524485979.htm. She is a little short and looks around 30. Her service was fantastic, but is probably only a 6/10 in my book. This is a problem I mentioned about finding girls on Passion.com or Milrroticos in Latin America, girl doesn't show her face, so quite frequently it disappoints you than excites you. But in this case and for 30 euro /20 min. , I am not going to complain much. She was my appetizer that night before hitting Estark.
Don't know what happened to our friend Viajando but I was in Scandalo last Wednesday. Abrahim still on the door, same staff and decent selection of girls. I was asked once by Denisa (Said Italian but for sure Ro) for 100 e /30. I laughed out loud and wished her luck with it. Last time I posted on CDS I reported Victoria who wanted 300 then dropped to 200 (from memory). Repeated with blonde Anna again (glasses). Wanted 80/30 or 160/60 and we did a deal for 300 for 2 hours as I know her / her service level.
For the night I was there, every one started with 100 plus 10 for the room, and it was Sat. Night guys outnumbered the working girls, negotiation was not easy. I just landed not long before, so didn't bargain hard enough. What bothered me most was the attitude of the hot girls. Since they are in demand, not much efforts need to be spent to win their prizes. I just don't like to be in that situation when making deals.
EddyTheEagle2
05-04-18, 09:49
Scandalo: for the night I was there, every one started with 100 plus 10 for the room, and it was Sat. Night guys outnumbered the working girls, negotiation was not easy. I just landed not long before, so didn't bargain hard enough. What bothered me most was the attitude of the hot girls. Since they are in demand, not much efforts need to be spent to win their prizes. I just don't like to be in that situationHi,
Remember this was Saturday April 14 and Real Madrid had to beat Malaga that weekend. So a lot of Madrid-fans had organized a "week-end CDS" including visiting the Clubs. Even E-Stark had been crowded and the business was "like a f. -factory": good for the girls but not for us; LOL. And I agree: E-Stark has improved! My next visit I'll definitely try to find Brazilian Mariana and Rebecca (from Munchen).
Have fun.
By any chance does have experience with these two girls? Or experience with ads of 2 hot blondes offering the Ultimate Duplex near Marabella or Malaga?
Lumis Malaga has one topic opened on them but it was closed last week because each topic is supposed to be for one girl only, the admin didn't realize it was a duo ad. I emailed that guy too, so I'll report back what he says or just TOFTT. It seems too good to be true, but she has already sent me a few more pics and video by message. I image searched by google on all and they either don't get a hit or come up referring to her ad on passion. Com.
https://www.slumi.com/escort-de-grande-pechos-y-rubia-a-la-que-le-fascina-el-griego-y-montar-trios-con-mi-prima-id-r6f9w
http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/nerea-novedad-escort-v-i-p-525239722.htm
Andalus Expat
05-15-18, 00:54
By any chance does have experience with these two girls? Or experience with ads of 2 hot blondes offering the Ultimate Duplex near Marabella or Malaga?
Lumis Malaga has one topic opened on them but it was closed last week because each topic is supposed to be for one girl only, the admin didn't realize it was a duo ad. I emailed that guy too, so I'll report back what he says or just TOFTT. It seems too good to be true, but she has already sent me a few more pics and video by message. I image searched by google on all and they either don't get a hit or come up referring to her ad on passion. Com.
https://www.slumi.com/escort-de-grande-pechos-y-rubia-a-la-que-le-fascina-el-griego-y-montar-trios-con-mi-prima-id-r6f9w
http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/nerea-novedad-escort-v-i-p-525239722.htmI've a suspicion the one calling herself Nerea is a Brasilena I know under her real as opposed to work name. Tats look very familiar but that's some good photowork there ID card says 34. She certainly does the services offered & likes playing with girls but can be a bit tricky. Booze & charlie are not a good mix. Can be trouble.
By any chance does have experience with these two girls? Or experience with ads of 2 hot blondes offering the Ultimate Duplex near Marabella or Malaga?
Lumis Malaga has one topic opened on them but it was closed last week because each topic is supposed to be for one girl only, the admin didn't realize it was a duo ad. I emailed that guy too, so I'll report back what he says or just TOFTT. It seems too good to be true, but she has already sent me a few more pics and video by message. I image searched by google on all and they either don't get a hit or come up referring to her ad on passion. Com.
https://www.slumi.com/escort-de-grande-pechos-y-rubia-a-la-que-le-fascina-el-griego-y-montar-trios-con-mi-prima-id-r6f9w
http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/nerea-novedad-escort-v-i-p-525239722.htmGreat find Barry. Well done. From their photoshopped pics, names they have given themselves and the Spanish they have used in their ads. Definitely Brasilian.
Good luck with the duo and be sure to leave us a report!
Great summary Magic! I'm in the 1st category with you. As was recently posted the FKK Fan boys are enjoying 7 hours worth of ploughing through Gypsies for E50/30 minutes but each to their own LOL. I can imagine Globe would be pretty good and when I was last in Schweiz in bars it was apparent their were many Latina WG but never had the opportunity to investigate them as to where they operate or how much. The daily money just spent on eating drinking hotels was huge so for sure that Country will cost twice or three as much a Spain for a trip. That money spent in Madrid goes a lot further!So I'll be in Ibiza for about 3 weeks in July, and suggestions for places to go on the night life part? Any suggestions for the wild post-drinking period too back at the hotel would be nice too.
Thanks!
TeddyBears
05-24-18, 09:33
Hi guys!
In your opinions which girls are the stunners if you only go for optics at Scandalo & Estark92 at the moment?
Hi guys!
In your opinions which girls are the stunners if you only go for optics at Scandalo & Estark92 at the moment?The answer has been the same for the last 6 years! Scandalos. Best night for 9's is Friday but with lots of competition from other punters. Also the 9's behave in a very obnoxious way, there are a few exceptions, so they are the poorest SPs and least fun. Where as Estark 92 will be a blast if you go with the attitude of having banter and fun!
Andalus Expat
05-25-18, 09:15
Hi guys!
In your opinions which girls are the stunners if you only go for optics at Scandalo & Estark92 at the moment?It seems a remarkably pointless inquiry, unless Teddy Bears intended visiting a club that night acting on advice from a contributor head been there the previous day. These girls are not on fixed contracts with pension plans. They decide where they'll be working the evening when they wake up in the morning. A club with a lot of 9's will be guaranteed to not have a lot of 9's for long. Because a 9 wants to be the only 9 in the club & scoop up all the best work.
TeddyBears
05-25-18, 10:27
Hi Pepe,
Yes I know that Scandalo is the 'better' club out of the two and has been that for many years. I was wondering about specific names of the girls at the clubs at this very moment! For example blond Melissa at Scandalo and so on. I am aware that this changes from week to week!
Hi Pepe,
Yes I know that Scandalo is the 'better' club out of the two and has been that for many years. I was wondering about specific names of the girls at the clubs at this very moment! For example blond Melissa at Scandalo and so on. I am aware that this changes from week to week!Only an element of the Club is on the Spanish Puta rotation treadmill. WGs like Melissa have almost a semi residency at those Clubs. Because they are the top Putas and top money earners for them selves and the club they are allowed to work weekends only. So they have their Malaga flats and don't need to live at the club and they are their almost every week. Don't agree with Andaluz Expat about 9's wanting to be the solo 9 in residence. A Club with only one 9 loses it's customer base. When a Club has multiple 9's then it gets busy. A 9 is not scared of the competition of other 9's as she will always be in demand. Attractive women gravitate together and like the rivalry it brings as to who is best looking most sexy! It's the 7's that fear the 9's taking all the business or at least getting first choice of the customers.
OK so I am going to San Pedro in Marbella in July and want to have some fun.
I need tips om what hotels to stay at?
Best place to buy sex?
Any knew any great girl there and can share contactinfo?
Best stripclub?
Please help I don't find much about this place so I am relying on my brothers here on ISG.
OK so I am going to San Pedro in Marbella in July and want to have some fun.
I need tips om what hotels to stay at?
Best place to buy sex?
Any knew any great girl there and can share contactinfo?
Best stripclub?
Please help I don't find much about this place so I am relying on my brothers here on ISG.XCobra,
You are going to have a fantastic, unbelievable, incredible time. When you return home you won't believe how beautiful the WGs are and what a great time you had! Now read T. F. F!
Woodster69
05-29-18, 13:40
Hi all,
I met Lucia and can thoroughly recommend her!
Full on GFE!
Picture isn't of her but if you like BBW you will be pleased.
Be nice to her as she genuinely seems to be honest.
Availability is limited but worth the wait. She has a normal job too so not looking for loads of clients.
Speaks perfect English but you may need to explain what you want.
http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/escort-524476843.htm#fotos.
Have fun but be nice.
OK so I am going to San Pedro in Marbella in July and want to have some fun.
I need tips om what hotels to stay at?
Best place to buy sex?
Any knew any great girl there and can share contactinfo?
Best stripclub?
Please help I don't find much about this place so I am relying on my brothers here on ISG.I am afraid you picked the wrong town for the kind of fun you are looking for. San Pedro, although a pleasant town, has to my knowledge, only one private apartment and one club (Playboy) which rates so low that it is not mentioned at all in this forum.
For fun you will need to hit Puerto Banus and of course Marbella, or even travel further afield to Fuengirola and Malaga.
Just outside San Pedro heading toward Estepona, in the Cancelada area, you have four second rate clubs, Oriental Club, Hoyo 19, Bel Air and the club which was formerly the California which was closed due to flooding and where a young girl drowned and which has now reopened. Further up the road toward Estepona you have Robertsons (and the Glass Palace (very pricy with mixed reviews), all these clubs have been mentioned in the forum. I am not aware of any strip clubs.
Better to hire a car so you can visit all these places as taxis can be expensive.
A word of warning however, summer sees increased police activity, with serious road blocks being set up to check for alcohol, drugs and immigrants.
Otherwise as mentioned in the prior post you need to RTFF before departure as quite comprehensive information is available there.
In any event have fun.
Banter.
Ovechkin08
06-02-18, 17:28
Hello chaps,
I've just returned from a week long vacation / house-hunt on the CDS. I've found this forum to be very useful and decided that I would write a report to help other users. A bit about myself: I'm a 33 year old Canadian living in Zug, Switzerland (fantastically low taxes. Incredibly ugly women). I spent 10 years in London before moving to Switzerland in 2016. I typically frequent Club Globe, Club Aphrodisia, and the various Latina bars on Langstrasse in Zurich. A half-hour of sex costs anywhere between CHF 280 to CHF 100 in Zurich depending on where you look and what you want. I love Spain as a country and spend pretty much all my holidays there. I usually split my time between Madrid (which is my favorite city in Spain and the CDS). Spain is everything that Switzerland isn't. It's incredibly inefficient, completely disorganized, has high taxes and unreliable public transport. But superior food, much friendlier people, a better climate, sexy Latina women and just a fantastic culture what with the mix of Moorish and European architecture. I love strolling around Cordoba, Grenada or Seville and taking in the sites during the day before feasting on Latinas in the evenings haha. One of the key things I like about the scene in Spain is the mixture of both European and Latina women. After a while you get sick of pounding away at the stick skinny Romanian girls that dominate the clubs in Switzerland. You start to crave those big tits and round asses that God has blessed the women of Brazil and Colombia with.
On this trip I decided to stay at the hotel Malaga Nostrum which is attached to the New Scandalo club. The hotel is nothing special but it's cheap, has free underground parking, is close to the airport, and has great access to the highways if you want to do some sightseeing in the days and want to be able to hit the road easily. The rooms were clean and quiet and the restaurant was okay. I only had breakfast here and had my other meals outside of the hotel. The hotel also has a bar and a casino which is open until 3 am. I often headed there to drink which was much cheaper than the drink prices in Scandalo. Why pay EUR 10 for a Corona in Scandalo when I can get one for EUR 3 in the hotel bar. The hotel is in an industrial area yet I was surprised to see numerous couples on holiday staying at the hotel. I can't imagine any woman being impressed with a guy who takes her on holiday to stay in a hotel attached to a brothel in an industrial estate!
Now on to the fun stuff. I generally don't give reviews of girls as I think that's pointless. I find that no two guys will have the same experience with a girl as it all boils down to what mood she's in and what level of chemistry you develop with her. My overall impression of Scandalo is that it's a nice club but just doesn't really do it for me. I spent every night there (7 nights) and sessioned 6 out of the 7 nights. My biggest issue with the place is that the best girls (I would say there were 4-5 top class girls who could easily work in Vive Madrid) had awful attitudes and just didn't seem in any way interested in putting down their phones and approaching. When I did approach those girls I found them boring and uninterested. Funnily enough I found that the local guys tended to avoid those girls and I suppose those girls really make their money on the uninformed tourists. I found that service levels just vary too much in Scandalo. I had the most fantastic session with a Colombia girl who ended up spending the night in my hotel and having BBFS with me to a downright awful session with a Bulgarian girl who held my dick while I was fucking her to make sure the condom stayed on and wouldn't let me touch her big tits. I suppose some will say that this variation in service is part of the fun but at EUR 110 per session I find it a poor risk / reward trade-off. Contrast that with Diana Plus in Madrid where you drop EUR 50 for 30 m and who cares if the session is shit, you just move onto the next. One pointer I would give is that if you don't speak Spanish you are at a disadvantage. I found that a lot of the girls don't speak English that well and this can lead to poor sessions. I had a nice girl from Venezuela but we couldn't really communicate so I couldn't tell her what to do which resulted in a wasted session (my fault but a lesson learned). The funny thing is that I didn't see a lot of customers actually taking girls up to the rooms and almost all the girls complained about how slow business has been and how cheap the customers are. I don't want to make this a Zurich vs CDS thread but the biggest issue I had with Scandalo is the high degree of variation in service levels. When I hobby in Zurich I pretty much know what I'm going to get service-wise and I know I'm going to pay for that. I think you have to put in a lot more due-diligence with each girl in the Spanish clubs to ensure you will get what you want. With regards to pricing, every girl quoted me a bid of EUR 110 plus EUR 10 for the sheets. None of them was willing to negotiate down and I find doing so leads to bad sessions anyway.
I decided to drive to the Estark 92 club one night just to check it out. It's actually not bad and had a lot of girls in there (Thursday night). Most of the girls are ugly but there were a few lookers. Again, it's basically a Diana Plus with higher prices. The girls quoted me EUR 80 for 30 m and EUR 100 for the hour which is okay I guess. I had an awful session with a Lithuanian girl who was fantastic in the bar but morphed into a total star fish in the room. I just left after 15 minutes and drove to Scandalo to finish my night. If you're on a tighter budget or just want to plough through gypsies I think it might be fun, but the line up is well below what is on offer in Scandalo.
As I was staying in the hotel right beside Scandalo I was able to meet up with a few of the girls before they started work and went to dinner with a lovely Brazilian girl before taking her back to my room one evening. Most of the girls will give you their whatsapp numbers and are happy to meet up outside of work if the price is right. I was happy to have some dinner company and food is cheap in Spain so for an extra EUR 50 in buying dinner I had some nice sex with one of the girls. The hotel didn't seem to ask anything when I took this girl up to my room to fuck but that may vary depending on who is manning the front desk.
Anyway I had a nice trip but generally I prefer Madrid. I would rather pay more and go to Vive which has a greater volume of high-end girls fighting for your Euro and be able to throw money around in places like Diana Plus where I don't care about the cost of poor sessions.
Any suggestion for Fuengirola? Brothels or massage places?
Any suggestion for Fuengirola? Brothels or massage places?Was at Estark Friday. Lots of girls, think there was at least 50. Had a very nice session with a Romanien girl I knew from before.
Was at Estark Friday. Lots of girls, think there was at least 50. Had a very nice session with a Romanien girl I knew from before.Great that you knew her from before. So can you tell us her name so other guys can know when they meet her that she is worth taking to the room. ?
Hello chaps,
I've just returned from a week long vacation / house-hunt on the CDS. I've found this forum to be very useful and decided that I would write a report to help other users.
Anyway I had a nice trip but generally I prefer Madrid. I would rather pay more and go to Vive which has a greater volume of high-end girls fighting for your Euro and be able to throw money around in places like Diana Plus where I don't care about the cost of poor sessions.Nice report. Thanks. Would have been helpful if you could have named some of the girls. For example the Columbian. Other guys won't know who she is from your report.
I love Diana Plus too. I prefer Scanalo to Vive. Just a personal choice.
Great find Barry. Well done. From their photoshopped pics, names they have given themselves and the Spanish they have used in their ads. Definitely Brasilian.
Good luck with the duo and be sure to leave us a report!The duplex I link below turned out to be too risky. I set it up as a white party duplex (duo) all night for €1500, they supply the party favors. After talking with Expat I decided to keep messaging her and ask for "real photos", she set me back a few more and then a little video of her and her friend in the club. It did not look real. Too hot, more CGI then Star Wars. I told her it was too good to be true she laughed and started sending me audio messages and I could tell by the sound of her voice she was a heavy chain smoker, I would say probably mid 30's. Then the next day the photos were changed from Playboy class photoshop pics to realistic camera phone shots. After all I just decided not to go with it it seem too risky. I probably should've set it up for one hour and then see what creatures show up, then have cash on hand to go all night if it was going well. But after I set up the overnight I just decided to cancel everything and it just didn't feel right. Plus Andalus Expat advised against it and he knows the local scene well.
I tried to use pasion. Com but the one I found was totally fake and the ad was gone in the next few days and the phone number doesn't get any hits anymore. It seems to be common to set up a WhatsApp and pimp out girls. The ad said all sorts of nasty kinky things but when I got there it was some girl from Chile with little mommy belly, no English, decent blowjob but not really all there. It was only a quick 50 but disappointing all the same. Nothing worth linking here and ad / telephone is gone now.
I stopped by EStark which for me is like going to McDonalds. It's fun when I'm drunk and want to banter with working girls and pop a shot but normally dislike the mechanical services typical of these joints. There was 20 girls with good variety, a few 8's and a couple 10's. First one I spoke to jumped me at the entrance, she was a fast talking, hustler from Poland. She immediately started rattling off her menu prices. I was 1 of 3 guys in there and she wouldn't negotiate for anything. I went to the bar to get a beer, I was told one beer was mandatory by the Polish girl and I just laughed in her face. I bought one to sip on anyway while I made my choice. I started talking to an older lady that said I could put my cock in her ass and she would squirt all over my chest if I if I played with her pussy right. She was a bit older not exactly to my liking. Then I was finishing my beer some chick from Columbia came over with a bubble butt and big tits and a sweet little smile and flirt as can be. We got to flirting and I told her I'm not interested in going upstairs at all. She whipped out her tits and put her hand on her ass. She was more fun downstairs then upstairs, all in all like riding a mechanical bull. The act totally went away and she was just trying to get me to come. She also said 100 all-in downstairs, but then upselling when we got to her shitty little room that was a total mess. I'd probably go back next time I'm in CDS but go earlier and try to talk one into going outside and hopefully get better sex then going through the revolving door.
After that I've searched around a little bit on passion.com but it all just seems like a lot of fake shit so I found a Mirabella clubhouse (casamasamarbella.com). This one is near a great Indian restaurant and can actually be found on google maps. The girls lined up after I arrived. 10 girls of decent variety and I chose the one from Venezuela in the picture. She was one of the hottest chicks I've ever fucked, and a sweet little attitude. There was no kissing at first but she opened up towards the end for some DFK, Covered blowjob which I normally disagree with but she had great skills and the house provides ultra thin condoms so she actually got me to come with CBJ. That was €200 and they wouldn't negotiate down (when I first arrived), but afterall, you get what you pay for and she was worth it considering she was a great actor. They provide a nice master bedroom, with jacuzzi in the bathroom and a nice garden with pool outback if you please. Better then the shit hole studio apartment hotel complex / meat market.
I never did find my duo of my dreams so that's what I'm looking for now. Doing a bunch of recon and trying to set something up, or at least have some ads bookmarked to pull the trigger when I arrive back in the CDS later this month. It's like the game whack-a-mole there, you got to be ready when they pop up because they all come and go so quick.
I only see one hit in 2016 for eliteescortsmarbella. Com in the CDS thread search, and a follow up telling them how not to build a website, haha. Anyone try this place lately? I sent a WhatsApp and was sent 1000 pictures with a few that enjoy 3 some. Again, all playboy type photoshoped images.
Then the next day the photos were changed from Playboy class photoshop pics to realistic camera phone shots. After all I just decided not to go with it it seem too risky. I probably should've set it up for one hour and then see what creatures show up, then have cash on hand to go all night if it was going well. But after I set up the overnight I just decided to cancel everything and it just didn't feel right. Plus Andalus Expat advised against it and he knows the local scene well.
I tried to use pasion. Com but the one I found was totally fake and the ad was gone in the next few days and the phone number doesn't get any hits anymore. It seems to be common to set up a WhatsApp and pimp out girls. The ad said all sorts of nasty kinky things but when I got there it was some girl from Chile with little mommy belly, no English, decent blowjob but not really all there. It was only a quick 50 but disappointing all the same. Nothing worth linking here and ad / telephone is gone now.
I stopped by EStark which for me is like going to McDonalds. It's fun when I'm drunk and want to banter with working girls and pop a shot but normally dislike the mechanical services typical of these joints. There was 20 girls with good variety, a few 8's and a couple 10's. . I started talking to an older lady that said I could put my cock in her ass and she would squirt all over my chest if I if I played with her pussy right. She was a bit older not exactly to my liking. Then I was finishing my beer some chick from Columbia came over with a bubble butt and big tits and a sweet little smile and flirt as can be. We got to flirting and I told her I'm not interested in going upstairs at all. She whipped out her tits and put her hand on her ass. She was more fun downstairs then upstairs, all in all like riding a mechanical bull. The act totally went away and she was just trying to get me to come. She also said 100 all-in downstairs, but then upselling when we got to her shitty little room that was a total mess. I'd probably go back next time I'm in CDS but go earlier and try to talk one into going outside and hopefully get better sex then going through the revolving door.
After that I've searched around a little bit on passion.com but it all just seems like a lot of fake shit so I found a Mirabella clubhouse (casamasamarbella.com). This one is near a great Indian restaurant and can actually be found on google maps. The girls lined up after I arrived. 10 girls of decent variety and I chose the one from Venezuela in the picture. She was one of the hottest chicks I've ever fucked, and a sweet little attitude.Hi BarryWood,
Really enjoyed reading your post! Thanks. You have highlighted the key to success when mongering down south. Success is based upon how much research you have done before landing in Malaga! Few Forum contributors have noted this and as you say the Puta population on the CDS is a fluid one so you need to constantly survey the market for when a newbie to your tastes arrives or a previous good conquest returns.
Estarks is great fun on a good night and it seems you go there with the same attitude as me. These reviews benefit frequent readers if you can mention specific names of the WGs. Who was the bolt on SP in Estark that was Mechanical. If we know her WG name then we will be aware of her upselling scheme and be prepared for that!
The Mirabella Club house sounds like a good find. What was the name of Venezuelana that you enjoyed your time with there?
Keep doing your research for the Duplex and for sure it will work out one day!
Pep.
Hello chaps,
One of the key things I like about the scene in Spain is the mixture of both European and Latina women. After a while you get sick of pounding away at the stick skinny Romanian girls that dominate the clubs in Switzerland. You start to crave those big tits and round asses that God has blessed the women of Brazil and Colombia with.
On this trip I decided to stay at the hotel Malaga Nostrum which is attached to the New Scandalo club. .......... The rooms were clean and quiet and the restaurant was okay. I only had breakfast here and had my other meals outside of the hotel. The hotel also has a bar and a casino which is open until 3 am. I often headed there to drink which was much cheaper than the drink prices in Scandalo. Why pay EUR 10 for a Corona in Scandalo when I can get one for EUR 3 in the hotel bar. The hotel is in an industrial area yet I was surprised to see numerous couples on holiday staying at the hotel. I can't imagine any woman being impressed with a guy who takes her on holiday to stay in a hotel attached to a brothel in an industrial estate!.Hi Ovechkin08,
Enjoyed reading your review and your slant on Scandalos and Estark 92. The FKK scene certainly seems to involve pounding your way through Gypsy after Gypsy so the CDS does give a different slant and experience to punting.
Malaga Nostrum is a good hotel for the purposes that you used it for. The mix of clientele is more likely due to it's affordable price, location close to the city and marketing itself on Bookings.com. Most non experienced travellers would assume Scandalos to be a discotheque, not knowing the significance of Club in Spain! That area is really a commercial park rather than industrial area.
The 9's of Scandalos are spoilt in terms of their money exploiting opportunities. So the behaviour that you noted is typical for them. Greater competition at the higher end of the WGs would certainly benefit the punters in diluting that "not interested don't give a shit attitude" that many of them have.
Seasoned contributors get most from reading a review that mentions the WGs name. We then know not only what type of service and to what level they are likely to offer but also their strategy scams and ploys that they typically take when in the room. Fore warned is fore armed! For sure they react and interact with each punter differently but their typical game plan and how they achieve never varies greatly. After all we want to avoid the Starfish you had to endure!
Was at Estark Friday. Lots of girls, think there was at least 50. Had a very nice session with a Romanien girl I knew from before.How much was fees there?
Andalus Expat
06-05-18, 17:44
"The 9's of Scandalos are spoilt in terms of their money exploiting opportunities. So the behaviour that you noted is typical for them. Greater competition at the higher end of the WGs would certainly benefit the punters in diluting that "not interested don't give a shit attitude" that many of them have."
Pepe1976 X.
This is what I find hard to understand. You could be riding a top agency girl in London, would really rock your world, for less than the dosh you're slinging around slappers in Scandalos. Doesn't make any sense. Why bother about coming down here?
"The 9's of Scandalos are spoilt in terms of their money exploiting opportunities. So the behaviour that you noted is typical for them. Greater competition at the higher end of the WGs would certainly benefit the punters in diluting that "not interested don't give a shit attitude" that many of them have."
Pepe1976 X.
This is what I find hard to understand. You could be riding a top agency girl in London, would really rock your world, for less than the dosh you're slinging around slappers in Scandalos. Doesn't make any sense. Why bother about coming down here?It's elementary my dear Andaluz Expat. I would never entertain the thought of giving my hard earn to any 9's with that that attitude and behaviour pattern. Just as I would never pay any "top " London agency for them to rip me off with their commission. The fun in the Clubs is to integrate and have banter with the WGs and observe the behaviour of them and the uninitiated punters. Doing proper Q&As and qualifying the 8's to get a high service level with a WG that you can also have a bit of fun with is the objective! If she is a Latina then all the better as with my knowledge of SA they are my special subject. All the times I took you along as my wingman and you've learn't nada! LOL. You got one last chance next time I'm in CDS for a free lesson of how to get the best out of a Putaeria!
MagicSheep74
06-05-18, 21:57
Hi BarryWood,
The Mirabella Club house sounds like a good find. What was the name of Venezuelans that you enjoyed your time with there?
Hello Pepe, Its actually the old. Casamasa. Its now called - www.hotelmarbellaromano.es . I am going there plough into this Venezuelan chicas tomorrow, I will get her name and let you know my opinion.
Very easy to find if you google it, will report back with the general standard of the girls soon.
Very good observations of some of the recent report.
Happy Days.
Andalus Expat
06-06-18, 10:50
It's elementary my dear Andaluz Expat. I would never entertain the thought of giving my hard earn to any 9's with that that attitude and behaviour pattern. Just as I would never pay any "top " London agency for them to rip me off with their commission. The fun in the Clubs is to integrate and have banter with the WGs and observe the behaviour of them and the uninitiated punters. Doing proper Q&As and qualifying the 8's to get a high service level with a WG that you can also have a bit of fun with is the objective! If she is a Latina then all the better as with my knowledge of SA they are my special subject. All the times I took you along as my wingman and you've learn't nada! LOL. You got one last chance next time I'm in CDS for a free lesson of how to get the best out of a Putaeria!Ah, Senor Pepe, but you forget the only thing I find interesting about puti clubs is whether they've a convenient cigarette machine. Useful if I've the itch, I'm a long way from home & short of time. Other than that, production line sex doesn't interest me. My quarry's the independents & long stay apartment girls. Shop around, find the good ones, cultivate them. I find I get a much better time with girls, they know what I like. I know what they like. "I would never pay any "top " London agency for them to rip me off with their commission. " What do you think you're doing at Scandalos? When I infrequently visit London I make use of one of the better agencies. Warranted girls, 9's & 10's by your standards, in luxury West End apartments. £200/ hour. Ballpark what you're paying on a Malaga industrial estate. And I don't have to listen to their tedious sales pitches. Because the one thing I've learnt from girls who've worked clubs is they despise their customers. It goes with the job. Try & see it from their side & you can work out why.
. My quarry's the independents & long stay apartment girls. Shop around, find the good ones, cultivate them. I find I get a much better time with girls, they know what I like. I know what they like.Agrees with the points recently published here by my good self and BarryWood. To get the most out of the CDS you have to be based there and as a tourist you have to do your research before landing at Malaga! Difficult to admittedly that why the "pret a mange' "set up of Clubs is successful for tourists. Unless you start selling guided tour packages of the indie establishments tourists are never going to get that " inside " info. Even researching Passion and the other sites is still not going to give them the knowledge that is gained by knowing the establishment that they work in and have already banged them previously and taken the edge of your relationship with them!
Putas despise all Punters no matter where you have met them, whatever you have done for them or given them in the past because they believe during their reflective moments that you caused them to be Putas and if they had not met you they would have been a civilian. By banging them regularly and even to the point where you get a freebie or two you will always be a punter to them. For punter you can exchange words to ATM or sop that I can exploit to get something out of! For those wishing to challenge this theory, pretend to have no money and don't do kindnesses for putas and see how long they maintain contact with you!
Ah, Senor Pepe, but you forget the only thing I find interesting about puti clubs is whether they've a convenient cigarette machine. Useful if I've the itch, I'm a long way from home & short of time. Other than that, production line sex doesn't interest me. My quarry's the independents & long stay apartment girls. Shop around, find the good ones, cultivate them. I find I get a much better time with girls, they know what I like. I know what they like. "I would never pay any "top " London agency for them to rip me off with their commission. " What do you think you're doing at Scandalos? When I infrequently visit London I make use of one of the better agencies. Warranted girls, 9's & 10's by your standards, in luxury West End apartments. 200/ hour. Ballpark what you're paying on a Malaga industrial estate. And I don't have to listen to their tedious sales pitches. Because the one thing I've learnt from girls who've worked clubs is they despise their customers. It goes with the job. Try & see it from their side & you can work out why.We really have had different experiences in Scandalo. "Production line sex" is the last words I would use to describe my experiences. However, I tend to avoid the Romanians.
I know for a fact that girls working in Scandalo have met visitors of Scandalo for free outside of work. I will be back in two weeks and hope for another great visit to the Spanish puticlubs.
BTW, that sounds like a great agency, do they have Latinas?
Andalus Expat
06-07-18, 11:45
"To get the most out of the CDS you have to be based there and as a tourist you have to do your research before landing at Malaga!
Indeed. Which is why a site like this is so valuable. Enables the sharing of information. And worth reminding posters that to be useful, the information needs to contain a bit more than "I met a girl called Maria at an apartment and we had a good time. " Or a Pasion.com link will expire 7 days after it appeared. It needs to amount to more than "What I did on my holidays".
It's worth paying the site sub and getting access to the PM service. It was a senior member gave me the go-to's when I first came down here and I'm happy to do the same in my turn. And recommending on does pay dividends. Tell the girl you were recommended when you meet her and tell the girl you will recommend if you're leaving happy. You visitors are the girls' icing on the cake. The local guys, their bread and butter, are not good payers and not considerate clients. They'd like the opportunity to see more of you. If they have problems understanding ISG mention LumisMalaga. It's a web-forum for the locals, works similarly. A lot of them will have heard of it.
"Putas despise all Punters no matter where you have met them" Simply, no they don't. A lot of the girls do the work because they enjoy it. They have clients that they tolerate and clients that they look forward to seeing. And not just for the money. Treat them with consideration and become one of them. And some of them do become friends. This is a relatively small town and they do have lives outside of work. We use the same supermarkets, bars & restaurants. And maybe it's easier to be friends with someone who knows what you do for a living, doesn't care and understands the difference between work and friendship. But yes, walking into one of the big resort clubs you're an ATM with legs.
ShooBree says "Production line sex is the last words I would use to describe my experiences. " If you're doing half hours in Scandalos, that to me is production line sex. What the hell do you manage to achieve in half an hour? It's hardly time enough for the preliminaries. Girl who visited me last week came at 2 am on a two hour €200 booking. Couldn't be bothered about going home, so was still here for breakfast. Her choice on her time. Pretty little Brazilian mulata. No limits. Goes like a rocket and just keeps getting better, every time I see her.
Last couple of times I've been over, Babylon Girls. More Russians & E. Europeans than Latina. And some of them are simply astounding. Beyond 10's and into another metric. But like all things in life, you get what you pay for. Which is one thing I don't understand about guys, come down here for the clubs but try to go shopping round the apartments. Why do you rummage about in the bargain basement? You're paying 100/ half in the clubs, what do you expect for 30? You might as well drive round Guadalhorce. I expect to be paying a hundred an hour and sometimes a lot more. 200 and you're into the real quality. But still cheaper than the club girls because you're not picking up tabs for drinks and extras and it's a whole better experience.
"To get the most out of the CDS you have to be based there and as a tourist you have to do your research before landing at Malaga!
Indeed. Which is why a site like this is so valuable........... Which is one thing I don't understand about guys, come down here for the clubs but try to go shopping round the apartments. Why do you rummage about in the bargain basement?.............. Enables the sharing of information. And worth reminding posters that to be useful, the information needs to contain a bit more than "I met a girl called Maria at an apartment and we had a good time. " Or a Pasion.com link will expire 7 days after it appeared. It needs to amount to more than "What I did on my holidays".
But like all things in life, you get what you pay for. Which is one thing I don't understand about guys, come down here for the clubs but try to go shopping round the apartments. Why do you rummage about in the bargain basement? You're paying 100/ half in the clubs, what do you expect for 30? You might as well drive round Guadalhorce. I expect to be paying a hundred an hour and sometimes a lot more. 200 and you're into the real quality. But still cheaper than the club girls because you're not picking up tabs for drinks and extras and it's a whole better experience.Naming WGs is the only way punters get to really benefit from info on this site. It's completely bizarre why they would not name WGs but leaves one thinking they are a bit " white knighty " protecting their illicit conquest! On another UK site they would be banned for being fluffy.
In Life you get want you have negotiated for!
Why would punters rummage around the bargain basement. Exactly the same reason that you frequent privees. To look for a bargain, the eternal diamond in the rough. The great motivation of any savvy speculator. Looking for value!
The Club experience is different from the phone a take away experience. Different strokes for different folks. Those who enjoy choosing from a large selection, doing Q&As, drinking in comfortable surroundings, listening to latin music, speaking Spanish in Spain, having a laugh over the uninitiated punters on their 1st trip to a Putaeria, flirting, having a verbal slanging match with the * WGs who are rude, banter with a sexy W. G. The list goes on forever of what Clubs offer over takeaways and knowing you can walk out at any time if the WG of your desires does not turn up in that club. Not every trip to a Puteria is always to go up stairs but buying a takeaway is pretty much a done deal, she my be a cleptomaniac or try and put a bottle over your head. I'm not here to convince you that you have it wrong just to enjoy my method of securing my paid for preferences over yours most of the time!
MagicSheep74
06-08-18, 12:47
I thought I will try something different and it turned out to be quite a good experience.
Firstly - www.hotelmarbellaromano.es, location Marbella. Press the buzzer, then lets you in, get an 8 euro drink, and the girls will come in one by one.
Mostly Latin girls, mostly attractive. Choose Lilli. Venezuelan. 20 year old, 173 cm, 50 kg.
Very beautiful rooms, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and sex on every piece of furniture in the room.
Price 200 an euro, so not cheap, but all in all a good experience. 7/10 Face, 9/10 , Service 9/10.
Secondly. Slumi - Camila - 20 years old. 160 cm / 52 kg. Location - Dama De Noche. Marbella.
Ww. slumi.com/ joven-escort-de-20-años-novedad-en-puerto-de-banus-ID-2 dbxv.
Very pleasantly surprised. Very pretty Colombian. Lovely sweet personality.
DFK / DATY, BBBJ, and multiple positions all for 50 euro for 30 minutes. Cheap as fuck, beat that Germany!
Very good valve for money, with an attractive young girl. Face 8/10 , body 8/10 , Service 9/10.
All in all I prefer the clubs, Scandalo and Estark 92, and I like to get pissed, tease the girls, establish chemistry, then retreat to the room and be a very bad boy.
Enjoy the summer delights.
That was the girl I saw there. A real knock out worth seeing even at the 200 price point. I should have tried to get her number to see her outside the club but I did manage to get this picture. I was stupid not to have her turn around and show that wonderful Latina ass she has and used so well. The BBBJ was off the table before we got naked and I only got LFK so maybe YMMV with this one.
I thought I will try something different and it turned out to be quite a good experience.
Firstly - www.hotelmarbellaromano.es, location Marbella. Press the buzzer, then lets you in, get an 8 euro drink, and the girls will come in one by one.
Mostly Latin girls, mostly attractive. Choose Lilli. Venezuelan. 20 year old, 173 cm, 50 kg.
Very beautiful rooms, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and sex on every piece of furniture in the room.
Price 200 an euro, so not cheap, but all in all a good experience. 7/10 Face, 9/10 , Service 9/10.
Secondly. Slumi - Camila - 20 years old. 160 cm / 52 kg. Location - Dama De Noche. Marbella.
Ww. slumi.com/ joven-escort-de-20-aos-novedad-en-puerto-de-banus-ID-2 dbxv.
Very pleasantly surprised. Very pretty Colombian. Lovely sweet personality..
DFK / DATY, BBBJ, and multiple positions all for 50 euro for 30 minutes. Cheap as fuck, beat that Germany!
Very good valve for money, with an attractive young girl. Face 8/10 , body 8/10 , Service 9/10.
All in all I prefer the clubs, Scandalo and Estark 92, and I like to get pissed, tease the girls, establish chemistry, then retreat to the room and be a very bad boy.
Enjoy the summer delights.MagicSheep74,
Great report and great work! Thanks for posting especially the names and the links. Was Camila in an apartment, villa or chalet? Sharing with other WGs or a true indie. Love your attitude for Scandalo and Estark. You got it right for there Bro!
MagicSheep74
06-09-18, 18:38
That was the girl I saw there. A real knock out worth seeing even at the 200 price point. I should have tried to get her number to see her outside the club but I did manage to get this picture. I was stupid not to have her turn around and show that wonderful Latina ass she has and used so well. The BBBJ was off the table before we got naked and I only got LFK so maybe YMMV with this one.Yes Barry, I went on your recommendation. There was actually 8 girls that came out, and 3 were Venezuelan. All 3 were reasonable attractive. I would say that 200 euro's is a little pricey, but Lilly was worth it.
Cheers.
MagicSheep74
06-09-18, 18:44
MagicSheep74,
Great report and great work! Thanks for posting especially the names and the links. Was Camila in an apartment, villa or chalet? Sharing with other WGs or a true indie. Love your attitude for Scandalo and Estark. You got it right for there Bro!Thanks Pepe, Camila stays in an apartment with one more girl. Nice clean place, easy to find in Dama De Noche. Puerto Banus. Bloq G. The other girl was not there when I was practising the old horizontal foxtrot with Camila last week. She said she is going home next month.
Will venture to 92 and Scandalo this week and report back.
Any suggestion for Fuengirola? Brothels or massage places?Hi!
I was in the Marbella. Costa del Sol. Fuengirola area two years ago and I was at Estark Friday with a Bulgarian girl, who provided me with an amazing evening. The place was quite good and I'll recommend it.
On the other hand, I was recommended the Jazmine Asian Massage, which is also in Fuengirola, for erotic massages, though I never went there and so I can't say anything about it.
Andalus Expat
06-13-18, 01:43
Over the past year or so there have been several enquiries about what's going on at & what happened to the English apartment in Fuengirola called itself Fuengirola Port. Apparently there have even been members or the forum have received text messages claiming to be from the Port. So perhaps it's better to let Tony explain things himself. This is the message I have from him:
"From Tony of the original Fuengirola Port. This is a personal apology to the disappointed legions of followers friends and clients of the original Fuengirola Port, created and run by Tony. After eight years of successful service to you all, I decided to pass the reins on to another and retire. What a mistake! Through mismanagement, lowering of standards, quality and hygiene the Port imploded and sank. A shadow of its former self.
Well, no more. In a fabulous new convenient location, bigger better than ever before, the Port will shortly reopen. Love me or hate me I, Tony, guarantee a level of professionalism and quality you came to expect. Remember the old guarantee? You got what you paid for, you got your full time, no hidden extras. The house respected the client. The client respected the house. A simple and winning formula. So take heart my friends. Shortly you will again enter the portals of pleasure at the one and only Tony's Fuengirola Port. Watch the Euroweekly for dates, phone numbers and opening offers. Speak to you all soon. Tony".
Expecting him in Spain by the beginning of July. If I hear any more, I'll let you know.
Andalus Expat
06-13-18, 13:03
Why would punters rummage around the bargain basement. Exactly the same reason that you frequent privees. To look for a bargain, the eternal diamond in the rough. The great motivation of any savvy speculator. Looking for value!.Economists talk about a market clearing price. The price at which the maximum number of sellers meet the maximum number of buyers. To operate efficiently markets need information. In this area the locals are your friends. As I've said elsewhere, to the girls you visitors are the icing on the cake. It's the locals, their bread and butter, they're pitching to. They're here all the year and have better information.
So, broadly speaking, the super-bargain girl. High on attractiveness, high on service, a mere 50 euros an hour. Doesn't exist. Or if she does, she's a pussy like raw steak and you won't get an appointment slot this side of next Christmas. Likewise, the girl who prices well over her market value is sitting in an apartment eating dry toast with immaculately polished nails. You can ignore economics but economics rarely ignores you.
Which is why I don't go rummaging in the bargain basement. It'll generally be disappointing. There is no diamond in the rough. If there ever was, someone unearthed it long before you.
At the bottom end of this market, there's a lot of the less desirable totty fighting it out, tooth and nail, for the Spaniard with a slim wallet. As you go up the price scale there's progressively less girls meet the qualifications. But, importantly, there's even less guys wit the money chasing them. It's a feature of this business. There's always an oversupply of talent. Whichever end of the market you're at. So that's where your bargains are.
TeddyBears
06-14-18, 00:15
Andalus Expat,
No one really want to pay 150-300 euros for an hour simply because it quickly becomes very expensive if your hooked on this hobby of ours!! In Madrid and Barcelona it is quiet simple to find beautiful girls for 100 euros because many guys rates the girls service in sexomercado and spalumi etc. In Malaga it's a bit more tricky because of the lack of reports in Spalumi and other sites. I have tried a few girls at pasion.com and slumi.com in the past but has not found gold yet!! It's very time consuming and you don't know what you find, and time is money!! LOL.
No but seriously if you are located in the CDS area and have the time and energy then why not look into the independent scene, but as a tourist as myself I rather visit the clubs there I can see with my own eyes if there is something interesting.
Speaking of clubs could possibly one of you guys who frequently visit Scandalo speak to the boss Avellino and ask him to put up a sign with fixed price for the club so the sharks don't rob all of us all summer long. Preferably at the little cubicle where you pay for the room. At the moment the Brazilian girls all want 200+ and Scandalo is not Vive Madrid.
MagicSheep74
06-14-18, 11:46
Andalus Expat,
No one really want to pay 150-300 euros for an hour simply because it quickly becomes very expensive if your hooked on this hobby of ours!! In Madrid and Barcelona it is quiet simple to find beautiful girls for 100 euros because many guys rates the girls service in sexomercado and spalumi etc. In Malaga it's a bit more tricky because of the lack of reports in Spalumi and other sites. I have tried a few girls at pasion.com and slumi.com in the past but has not found gold yet!! It's very time consuming and you don't know what you find, and time is money!! LOL.
No but seriously if you are located in the CDS area and have the time and energy then why not look into the independent scene, but as a tourist as myself I rather visit the clubs there I can see with my own eyes if there is something interesting.
Speaking of clubs could possibly one of you guys who frequently visit Scandalo speak to the boss Avellino and ask him to put up a sign with fixed price for the club so the sharks don't rob all of us all summer long. Preferably at the little cubicle where you pay for the room. At the moment the Brazilian girls all want 200+ and Scandalo is not Vive Madrid.Completely agree, for tourist hits the clubs unless, you get a solid independent recommendation from this board. I live here and will mention the spiralling costs to Avelino when I next visit. In excess of 200 is really unacceptable for Scandalo.
Cheers.
I am planning to hold a bachelor party with some friends in Malaga, which is the place where my boyfriend lives. We are several friends from different countries and we want to take him outside the city. We had thought about going to Estepona or Benalmadena. What option would you guys recommend? We are interested in both the leisure options as well as the communication with the airport.
Thanks!
Steven Jones
06-14-18, 23:33
It's elementary my dear Andaluz Expat. I would never entertain the thought of giving my hard earn to any 9's with that that attitude and behaviour pattern. Just as I would never pay any "top " London agency for them to rip me off with their commission. The fun in the Clubs is to integrate and have banter with the WGs and observe the behaviour of them and the uninitiated punters. Doing proper Q&As and qualifying the 8's to get a high service level with a WG that you can also have a bit of fun with is the objective! If she is a Latina then all the better as with my knowledge of SA they are my special subject. All the times I took you along as my wingman and you've learn't nada! LOL. You got one last chance next time I'm in CDS for a free lesson of how to get the best out of a Putaeria!This is very true! The last time I was here I met an average looking Croatian girl, but the service was amazing. Great kisser, sexy, playful and made my night!
Back in the CDS and visited this nice little lady. The pictures are real, and she loves it in the ass. She is playful and funny and is willing to get married and move to Europe permanently I paid 170 for the hour with anal (+50 for anal, 120 HR includes BBBJ, kissing, any position you can dream up and a beer).
Started with a BBBJ and came in her mouth and face and tits. When I stared cumming she whipped it around like a water weenie, LOL. She offered me a beer and we chatted and joked around with our phone's translators help. After a little break we were back rolling around in different positions until we ended up in doggy. She put my cock in her ass and it didn't take long before she was pulling my hips in to get deeper and deeper. 1/2 way through pounding her ass I gave her a reach around and her pussy was dripping wet. Her reaction was loud and convincing and her orgasm pushed me over the edge and we came at the same time.
I'll go back before I leave here and pay the 120/ HR. Her pussy is tight and I get the feeling she'll get better and better with repeat visits.
The apartment is near Puerto banus in a normal apartment complex, room and bathroom were clean.
http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres-en-malaga/657027212.htm
https://spalumi.com/f187/maria-brasile%F1-221327.html#post2058077.
I've waxed lyrical about Fontana in LOS Barrios over the past 2 years. Having genuinely expressed the view at one point that I believed it had overtaken Scanadalo in terms of options / LU. Was there a few weeks ago and was disappointed with the LU and thought it was a one off. Not so. Repeated this weekend and LU was the weakest I've seen at the club for 2 years. Still maybe 30 girls, and some new faces including Mariana (Brazillian), a cute Cuban, a blonde Bulgarian (Eva?) with a hot body and happily for me the return from Estark 92 of blonde Ro Alicia with nice rack. Great fun as always but in the first 2 hours didn't find I was really biting the bait for any of the girls on offer. I know I'm picky but I was considering leaving the club with no sessions (which would be a first at this club for me).
Alicia thought Estark 92 was dreadful. Apparently the girls must pay 75 euros every day for accommodation (same as any other hotel resident) and thought they then keep their earnings it means the first punt is virtually free if only 30 minutes. She confirmed the Ro girls are a sharky with punters as ever and it puts people off. Hence her return. But not sure how long that will last given low male numbers until around 2 am.
So next trip will be a return to Scandalo and maybe Sala Divas.
Alicia thought Estark 92 was dreadful. Apparently the girls must pay 75 euros every day for accommodation (same as any other hotel resident) and thought they then keep their earnings it means the first punt is virtually free if only 30 minutes. She confirmed the Ro girls are a sharky with punters as ever and it puts people off. Hence her return. But not sure how long that will last given low male numbers until around 2 am..Sat night just gone was Fiesta de San Juan so that impacts on the Clubs etc. Am currently on the CDS and was in Fontanas last night.
PayForIt don't understand the surprise of WGs paying for their rooms!
About 30 girls, few above 6. 5 inc Mari from Brasil great surgerised body but the surgerised face and age mean I won't go there. Quite a few clients in the bar and and 2 other notable WGs were from, Venezuela, a blonde young WG with pretty face and another a Brasilian with indian face and skin colour, top body in a Bikini! She know's Elisa from Brasil who is working at Estark 95 LOS Lagos. That Club now seems to be almost closed apart from Elisa trying to keep it open single handedly A WG that's been on the CDS for 5 years, very professional and not many taboos in the room. Even gave me her phone number suggesting a 3 HR session at my hotel. Went to Norway with a punter for a whlie LOL but obviously that can't work out so she is back. Saw the photos from Norway where she had put on weight but now almost back to her proper putaering weight. Dark hair now huge boobs and incredible loca personality bangs very well! Saw Eva at Fontana from Bulgaria nice body but the possibly gypsy connection put me off!
Sunday night Estark 92 Carvajal had about 25 WGs 5 of whom were all highly bangable! At 03.00 hrs my wingman and I almost had all of them to ourselves Denise, blonde mulata incredible bunda and Valentina from Colombia are 2 notables. Tall slim brunette with great breasts and plenting of years in the clubs. There are currently 2 other girls from Brasil and Colombia respectively who could pass off as sisters maybe even twins. That's got my imagination running for another visit!
Had come from Sala Divas. Nothing to mention above 5. 5 there and Scandalos which I had found had few WGs although there were many parked cars so maybe as it was 01.00 hrs maybe upstairs had many more WGs getting banged. But saw short dark haired Gabriele from Brasil with guitar shaped body and Yessica a very pretty Afro girl also has been there for 2 years. Have further reports of activities already done as well as future ones to take place!
Mid week activites around the CDS have been the following.
Estark 92 probably 25 or MORE WGs. 7 or 8 are highly doable. Florentina, Nicoletta, Melissa and a WG who calls herself clitoris! Are all Slovenian Slovak and EEs all super attractive and very professional in their appearance. On first sight they really are spectacular. Would be familiar to club regulars and the 4 all have a varying level of attitude, probably Nicoletta with the least. Various other Latinas many of who are also attractive but a little less entitlement attitude. After the Brasilian W. Cup Football match one of the Brasilieras had taken so much coke and cachaca she was flying. Completely off her head. Demanding that I go upstairs and bang her hard! Took pity on her and today she must have the headache from hell! Got to be the best selection of Putas on the CDS with a 1/6 ratio of bangables ones.
Selecta Benalmadena / Torremolinos arrive about midnight approx 18 WGs probably 2 were 8's the remaining were mix of milfs with silicon, Africans highly made up and others from Euroland. Fantastic bar and arrived in time for the live music. Drink was 12 euros for me and the WGs drinks from 20.00 Euros. Great venue, great atmosphere but no one that excites me there. Definitely would return but to drink only although one stunning blonde disappeared to the rooms as I arrived. So never say never.
LE Coq Dor opposite Torrequebrada Casino another great venue harking back to the golden days of putaering on the CDS. Difficult to drive to without driving through a small no entry passage! 20 WGs Latinas and Russians. 5 of the Colombians are all doable and were all 8's as well as one 9. Eva Colombian and ex Vive Madrid and Pygmalion worker is a double of Bianca Jagger when she was a top looker! She talks a good sales pitch and may well put her to the sword over the next few days. Drink was 20 Euros for me and the WGs copa start from 30 Euros. Great decor, great bar abd you can sit outside in the gardens as well. After midnight there are 2 pole dancers who apparently don't bang but might consider doing a trio if they like your choice of W. G. The rate is 150 Euros for an hour and 100 Euros fpr 30 minutes. Definitely would return to drink and bang here!
Colombian House, Calle Colombia Torremolinos exaclty as per the nane. Prices from 60 Euros. 8 Wgs of which 3 were +8. Typical Morena Colombiana appearance and pretty faces with the exception of one who, Diana, was very fair skinned, super long silky black hair and huge FF boobs on a dress size 12 body. Approx 24 years of age! Bangs very well with GFE skills especially at the end when she really bangs hard and relaxed personality. 60 Euros for 30 minutes To date so many of the Colombian WGs in their 20's claim to be from Pereira. Very bizarre. One of the others in the line up was a bit more of a Jennifer Lopez look but aprox 28 years. Very sexy and confident looking The villa is scruffy appearance and the same inside but clean. Relaxed atmosphere and seemed quite safe and discreet, just the stray Spanish dogs looking around.
Villa Flores Fresca Mijas went with my wingman AndaluzExpat. Another Colombian house up in the hills in a small hamlet. Large villa, reasonably modern and clean No car don, t bother trying to get there! With approx 8 Wgs. 4 very good 8's or higher. Wingman went with a Black Colombian super, super, super body. He spoke highly of her skills. I chose Dana a super pretty Morena with silicons and a very young look! Stunning probably a 9. Quiet but friendly in the room but enouh conversation as to not be rude or inhibited. Bangs nicely, initiates kissing confident BJ skills but quick to get on the rubber. Good service but without the years of experience of many of the Latinas here. After the first round and a mutual massage she was keen to start the 2nd round. 100 Euros for an hour and we bought them a 20 Euro drink each. Would be difficult to find as attractive or young any where else! For those who have never visited these Villas normally there are several reception rooms so multiple numbers of punters are there viewing the line ups. These are also used for snorting coke as these villas offer all sorts of opportunities to fiesta! So whilst you are sipping your Cuba Libre you may here alot of snorting coming from behind the curtains!
PayForIt don't understand the surprise of WGs paying for their rooms!
Not so. Of course I appreciate that WGs must pay for attendance and / or accommodation. But this is quite a heavy fee for Spain. Girls in Vive Madrid (undoubtedly the best club for LU IMHO in Spain) only pay 100 euros for their rooms. 50 at Diana Plus in Madrid. But a lot of places work on the basis of small entrance fee then taking a fee from the girl for the "use" of every room they have with clients (makes more $$ for the club). 75 euro for Estark 92 is the same price as for mongers and given the low quality of the club, is quite expensive in my view.
Nice reports on the various options etc. You were certainly more lucky than I was this time out in Fontana.
Mid week activites around the CDS have been the following.
Estark 92 probably 25 or MORE WGs. 7 or 8 are highly doable. Florentina, Nicoletta, Melissa and a WG who calls herself clitoris! Are all Slovenian Slovak and EEs all super attractive and very professional in their appearance. On first sight they really are spectacular. Would be familiar to club regulars and the 4 all have a varying level of attitude, probably Nicoletta with the least. Various other Latinas many of who are also attractive but a little less entitlement attitude. After the Brasilian W. Cup Football match one of the Brasilieras had taken so much coke and cachaca she was flying. Completely off her head. Demanding that I go upstairs and bang her hard! Took pity on her and today she must have the headache from hell! Got to be the best selection of Putas on the CDS with a 1/6 ratio of bangables ones.
Selecta Benalmadena / Torremolinos arrive about midnight approx 18 WGs probably 2 were 8's the remaining were mix of milfs with silicon, Africans highly made up and others from Euroland. Fantastic bar and arrived in time for the live music. Drink was 12 euros for me and the WGs drinks from 20.00 Euros. Great venue, great atmosphere but no one that excites me there. Definitely would return but to drink only although one stunning blonde disappeared to the rooms as I arrived. So never say never.
LE Coq Dor opposite Torrequebrada Casino another great venue harking back to the golden days of putaering on the CDS. Difficult to drive to without driving through a small no entry passage! 20 WGs Latinas and Russians. 5 of the Colombians are all doable and were all 8's as well as one 9. Eva Colombian and ex Vive Madrid and Pygmalion worker is a double of Bianca Jagger when she was a top looker! She talks a good sales pitch and may well put her to the sword over the next few days. Drink was 20 Euros for me and the WGs copa start from 30 Euros. Great decor, great bar abd you can sit outside in the gardens as well. After midnight there are 2 pole dancers who apparently don't bang but might consider doing a trio if they like your choice of W. G. The rate is 150 Euros for an hour and 100 Euros fpr 30 minutes. Definitely would return to drink and bang here!
Colombian House, Calle Colombia Torremolinos exaclty as per the nane. Prices from 60 Euros. 8 Wgs of which 3 were +8. Typical Morena Colombiana appearance and pretty faces with the exception of one who, Diana, was very fair skinned, super long silky black hair and huge FF boobs on a dress size 12 body. Approx 24 years of age! Bangs very well with GFE skills especially at the end when she really bangs hard and relaxed personality. 60 Euros for 30 minutes To date so many of the Colombian WGs in their 20's claim to be from Pereira. Very bizarre. One of the others in the line up was a bit more of a Jennifer Lopez look but aprox 28 years. Very sexy and confident looking The villa is scruffy appearance and the same inside but clean. Relaxed atmosphere and seemed quite safe and discreet, just the stray Spanish dogs looking around.
Villa Flores Fresca Mijas went with my wingman AndaluzExpat. Another Colombian house up in the hills in a small hamlet. Large villa, reasonably modern and clean No car don, t bother trying to get there! With approx 8 Wgs. 4 very good 8's or higher. Wingman went with a Black Colombian super, super, super body. He spoke highly of her skills. I chose Dana a super pretty Morena with silicons and a very young look! Stunning probably a 9. Quiet but friendly in the room but enouh conversation as to not be rude or inhibited. Bangs nicely, initiates kissing confident BJ skills but quick to get on the rubber. Good service but without the years of experience of many of the Latinas here. After the first round and a mutual massage she was keen to start the 2nd round. 100 Euros for an hour and we bought them a 20 Euro drink each. Would be difficult to find as attractive or young any where else! For those who have never visited these Villas normally there are several reception rooms so multiple numbers of punters are there viewing the line ups. These are also used for snorting coke as these villas offer all sorts of opportunities to fiesta! So whilst you are sipping your Cuba Libre you may here alot of snorting coming from behind the curtains!Great report. Good to hear of other options along the CDS. Like the sound of LE Coq Dor. Must give that a try.
Having recently been to Estark Carvajal for a 4th time I am now of the conclusion that the current mid week selection of WGs is the best on the Costa and the best in 92 for 3 or 4 years. At least 25 WGs and quite busy with customers. Went upstairs with Valentina from Colombia a tall (for Colombia) morena with Indian Mezcla. Pretty great proportion body and fantastic breasts which she seems to enjoy showing you in the Club and is even partial to her nipples played with at the bar! Euros 75 + 2 for linen for a no clock watching session of banging sucking kissing massage and shower + her DJ skills from her mobile phone. Great time but on that evening at approx 01.30 hrs there were 5 other WGs who were high 8's.
Calle Torrox Fuengirola found on passion.com another Latinas house on the 1st floor. They had to threw the keys over the balcony for me to get in and upstairs! Chose a madurita morena Colombiana big silicons on a petite frame and nice bum from 4 options in the line up. Euros 50 for a full on 30 minutes of banging and being sucked but she did kiss and bit my lip really hard which was neither pleasurable or asked for! 20 minutes available cheaper and well worth the visit and time spent researching it!
Fontanas (again) Full of WGs and great atmosphere. Not a high level of WG but many options here for those looking for a Latina 7 with Silicons and experience. Seemed to be 2 different groups of Mulatas working here amongst the different groups of WGs. The prettier and more petite genuinely worth considering doing and another group of taller, more aggressive mulatas that are genuinely scary and probably snorting too much A.
Again despite the low number of WGs went to Estark 95 and found an absolute diamond in the rough! Impossible to believe that a Puti club appearing almost closed should yield the best and 4th best session of the trip! Elisa was with 3 other Brasilian WGs. Adriana a tall incredible body and boobs morena. Her body is incredible in proportion and fitness but her face, hate to be horrible is that of a hag. Totally impossible to climb on top of! Michelle also tall also great sporty gym body but blonde, pretty face and golden skin colour approx 32 years from Mangueira are de J was my choice. Relaxed chatty and fun in the room and a volcano in the bed! Great session and the reverse cowgirl where she almost broke the bed will live on for a long time in my memory.
Chalet Kasandra on the Guardcorte Estate is a Colombian house with 8 WGs. Very close to Estark 95 and Fontanas so very convenient. Mostly 7's all Latinas. The Villa and the rooms are good but nothing there really enticed to have a session. The negrita maid is both friendly cute and helpful! Euros 60 for 30 minutes was quoted. Platinum Club also close by to this area was closed whilst I was there!
Researched various indies via Passion.com in Algeciras but either too much aggravation to find and park or when I arrived the WG was be&S and would be a Latina Madurita with a body like the Michelin man!
In Jerez de la Frontera got burnt by a Peruana who had seemingly a genuine Passion.com profile. Heaving surprised body but looked Jessica Rabbit like. She stopped responding to calls as I arrived! Did session in a very well presented Brothel in the city centro with a Dominican Mulata who after a very promising start turned out to be lazy which sadly is beginning to be a repeated experience with this nationality of Putas.
The African WGs that suck and f- around the Calles of the Poligrino of Guadalahorce Malaga seem to be very low on numbers at the moment, never saw more than 6 and all of a low standard! It's warm in Malaga now so no street fires!
Never got to visit Glass Palace in Malaga but the lights are still burning bright at night so some business is being operated from there. Neither did I have time to visit Attico Sex in Malaga which had been on my hit list as it is currently posting lots of pics and advertsto Passion.com !
Also made a final Saturday visit to Escandalo in Malaga. Again lots of cars parked outside and opposite the Coca Cola plant but inside (approx 11.30 pm) it was low on numbers for WGs although many customers, maybe the WG were upstairs or maybe they struggle to get WGs to compete with their 9's! Met Jessy form Bahia a definite 9. Typical Bahiana Mulata but uniquely from Porto Seguro. Had plenty to chat with her about as we both know people there and she was very relaxed and happy to show me plenty of her Facebook page Pretty face and great body approx 28 years old. Fantastic to chat with but time limitations prevented me from banging her! Also Adana from Paraguay a very pretty morena and great body with Indian but not very Gurani looking South American WG 9 approx age 27 years also. Really found it hard walking away from her and another ex Viva Madrid WG but had an important appointment! Whilst there having a quick drink and chatting saw several familiar WGs (8's) and a Colombian WG that I had seen there before, petite and super pretty morena but there were several other 8/9's that I never got a chance to talk to. Scandalo maintains the best looking and younger WGs in Malaga on the Costa del Sol but due to the 30 minutes up and there is a knock on the door policy for me Estark 92 would still be the destination of choice and on my 4 visits had no super pushy arrogant sharky EE WGs to combat (although secretly I do enjoy the confrontation with them) . The advise I would freely offer from this trip is don't negotiate a 30 minute price at Estark 92 or 95 but negotiate the services you wish for at a set price (not based on time). Hope this helps anyone reading and visiting the CDS and from my experiences the best sessions happen when the Gods are smiling on you. Being in the right place at the right time. Michellie who was my best session said she had only been split up from her boyfriend for 3 day and had been working / arrived in the club for 2 day. So much so that her brand new WG Putaring shoes were killing her and she couldn't wait to take them off! Pepe.
MagicSheep74
07-05-18, 16:33
The African WGs that suck and f- around the Calles of the Poligrino of Guadalahorce Malaga seem to be very low on numbers at the moment, never saw more than 6 and all of a low standard! It's warm in Malaga now so no street fires!
Never got to visit Glass Palace in Malaga but the lights are still burning bright at night so some business is being operated from there. Neither did I have time to visit Attico Sex in Malaga which had been on my hit list as it is currently posting lots of pics and advertsto Passion.com !
Also made a final Saturday visit to Escandalo in Malaga. Again lots of cars parked outside and opposite the Coca Cola plant but inside (approx 11.30 pm) it was low on numbers for WGs although many customers, maybe the WG were upstairs or maybe they struggle to get WGs to compete with their 9's! Met Jessy form Bahia a definite 9. Typical Bahiana Mulata but uniquely from Porto Seguro. Had plenty to chat with her about as we both know people there and she was very relaxed and happy to show me plenty of her Facebook page Pretty face and great body approx 28 years old. Fantastic to chat with but time limitations prevented me from banging her! Also Adana from Paraguay a very pretty morena and great body with Indian but not very Gurani looking South American WG 9 approx age 27 years also. Really found it hard walking away from her and another ex Viva Madrid WG but had an important appointment! Whilst there having a quick drink and chatting saw several familiar WGs (8's) and a Colombian WG that I had seen there before, petite and super pretty morena but there were several other 8/9's that I never got a chance to talk to..Fantastic reporting there Pepe, sounds like you had a great time and I am happy to hear that Estark is showing improvement. It was getting pretty grim there for a while, when it was completely taken over by the ' I will crush you ' Ivan Drago faces. EE WG's.
I have made a terrible mistake and got myself into a relationship down here in the Costa Del Sol, so as you can imagine that has put the brakes somewhat on my current mongering addiction.
Naturally, I will still read on with pleasure and try my best to be a good boy.
Fantastic reporting there Pepe, sounds like you had a great time and I am happy to hear that Estark is showing improvement. It was getting pretty grim there for a while, when it was completely taken over by the ' I will crush you ' Ivan Drago faces. EE WG's.
I have made a terrible mistake and got myself into a relationship down here in the Costa Del Sol, so as you can imagine that has put the brakes somewhat on my current mongering addiction.
Naturally, I will still read on with pleasure and try my best to be a good boy.Hi MagicS74,
Surely being a good boy 5 nights a week is enough. A newbie has no rights to demand 7 nights a week! LOL.
For me a visit to Estark 92 is always enjoyable even if I don't find one for sessions upstairs I will have done my homework and research for a future visit. All my visits on this trip to E 92 there were WGs that ticked my boxes and could have resulted in a trip in that lobby lift and as you don't risk a maid knocking on the door after 29 minutes then it's even better. Thanks for the positive comments. Pep.
TeddyBears
07-16-18, 00:28
Hi gents,
Just discovered that Escortsyoung.com known from Madrid has a Malaga section. Anyone tried them?150€ for an hour is price worthy, but of course is says nothing about services on their site.
So had two nights to devote to our past-time. Night one in Fontana. Wasn't sure whether to skip after last experience but got there late around 1 am. Bar very full on a Friday night of punters and girls though increasingly the club is 90% Dominan Repulican girls. Less and less Romanians. Which for many is good but not me. Sure enough finally got to session with heavily tattooed brunette, slim, Romanian Iris. Pretty. Great service and good attitude in the room. Otherwise didn't think the options LU was all that.
On the basis of Pepe's recent reports decided to head to Estark 92 for second night. Not normal for me not to hit Scandalos but decided on the good reports to see if things had changed since my last visit about 2 years ago. In truth, the answer is not much. The girls are still more sharky than elsewhere on CDS for me, bar and sala juegos area (casino / games) same though the roulette has improved! LU was fairly good as previously reported. Not exceptional, and not for me at Scandalo standard but there were 5 or 6 I'd have been happy to session with. And that makes for a decent LU in my view. Far more many Ro's of course. Started with Maria Magdelana from Panama. Bit older than I like but banging body in tight black dress. Sillicones when got in the room and her ooohing and aaaaring and 'oh baby" cries were just awful. She persisted despite my requests to leave it and just be real. Happy to escape after an hour though she took a hammering in doggy with little complaint. But lots of moaning.
My good friend from Fontana. Blonde curly haired Ro Alicia was present with her friend (skinny blonde Joanna from Ukraine with big black rimmed glasses and great ass). Had a terrific threesome which was memorable for them taking turns to force me to DATY to given them both two orgasms. Was fun. Great session with two lovely girls.
There is one thing that's great about Estark over all the other clubs. The girls pay their house fee of 75 - same as punters and then keep all the cash they earn. Meaning that like Diana Plus in Madrid they get to negotiate their own deal with every punter. Alicia was happy to stay the night with me for 400 but I wanted my beauty sleep after two heavy and late nights.
So as reported. LU at Estark is currently quite attractive. Brunette Maria was stunning but I'm told she has a "don't touch this / that" attitude. Would like to try her at least!
MagicSheep74
07-17-18, 14:54
Hi gents,
Just discovered that Escortsyoung.com known from Madrid has a Malaga section. Anyone tried them?150 for an hour is price worthy, but of course is says nothing about services on their site.Looks suspicious to me, really doubt they are real picture's. Generic descriptions of the girls, no nationality, no services that they provide. Some of the girls actually looks like the same girl under different names. Maybe worth a punt if your in Malaga.
I can't find any mention, or reviews of them in Madrid, but maybe I am wrong.
Would be nice to have a reliable source of nice daytime girls, tried www.pasion.com a couple of times and it was a disaster.
Woodster69
07-17-18, 19:46
I am planning to hold a bachelor party with some friends in Malaga, which is the place where my boyfriend lives. We are several friends from different countries and we want to take him outside the city. We had thought about going to Estepona or Benalmadena. What option would you guys recommend? We are interested in both the leisure options as well as the communication with the airport.
Thanks!Hi,
I can offer you a penthouse with a discrete roof terrace and hot tub. I also know a girl who would be happy to visit you and bring a few friends. This is near Estepona so you could fly into Gibraltar or Malaga.
. Night one in Fontana. Wasn't sure whether to skip after last experience but got there late around 1 am. Bar very full on a Friday night of punters and girls though increasingly the club is 90% Domican Republican girls. Less and less Romanians. . Otherwise didn't think the options LU was all that.
On the basis of Pepe's recent reports decided to head to Estark 92 for second night. Not normal for me not to hit Scandalos but decided on the good reports to see if things had changed since my last visit about 2 years ago. In truth, the answer is not much. The girls are still more sharky than elsewhere on CDS for me . LU was fairly good as previously reported. Not exceptional, and not for me at Scandalo standard but there were 5 or 6 I'd have been happy to session with. And that makes for a decent LU in my view.
My good friend from Fontana.Hi PayForIt,
Nice report and glad you were able to validate my recent reports 1st hand! We tend to agree on both Clubs at present.
Fontanas has the volume of WGs but not attractiveness and without generalising I have recently found it difficult to discover a DR that gives a genuine service of high enough performance and not more interested in coke sales. Bet that could be trimmed down a bit if its mid week and thin on punters especially if you could negotiate with her independently of the Club! I read of similar and cheaper deals at Pygmallion in Madrid! Euros 400 for a night with Alicia. Whilst I chatted with one of the security in Fontana's sub club car park various WGs were arriving and leaving at strange times so assumed they are doing a takeaway service from there.
Your trio sounds like a lot of fun. Regret a little not returning to organise one with the Brasilian and Colombian blondes that looked like twins at Estark!
Any Club that has 6 WG contenders in an evening, for me is good enough LOL! Also I like a bit of Sharkyness in an element of the WGs. If they are the ones I'm not attracted to then you can have a bit of verbal jousting with them and for non native Spanish speakers improve your vocabulary! Estark 92 has the benefit that no maid will be knocking on your door or phoning your room at 29 or 55 minutes! And as said negotiating with true Indies is best always. I try to negotiate for services rather than time at E92 so that if you want 2 or 3 completions you are not subconsciously clock watching but can perform at a pace that suits the occasion!
Agree that Scandalos has the high 8's and 9's but with the 2 other restriction we previously mentioned, for me Estark 92 is the better bet! Still enjoy a drink and surveying the talent there but I would have to do a thorough Q&A there with a Natural before seriously thinking about shuffling upstairs with her!
Completely agree, for tourist hits the clubs unless, you get a solid independent recommendation from this board. I live here and will mention the spiralling costs to Avelino when I next visit. In excess of 200 is really unacceptable for Scandalo.
Cheers.Is 200 really the price at Scandalo now? I speak Spanish and I'm usually, able I'm able to talk the price down at these places. Is it fixed?
And what about the prices at the others places around Malaga? I'm going there in about 2 weeks, and looking for a some good places to go. Can see that Estark is getting good reviews these days? What about the prices there?
Over the past year or so there have been several enquiries about what's going on at & what happened to the English apartment in Fuengirola called itself Fuengirola Port. Apparently there have even been members or the forum have received text messages claiming to be from the Port. So perhaps it's better to let Tony explain things himself. This is the message I have from him:
"From Tony of the original Fuengirola Port. This is a personal apology to the disappointed legions of followers friends and clients of the original Fuengirola Port, created and run by Tony. After eight years of successful service to you all, I decided to pass the reins on to another and retire. What a mistake! Through mismanagement, lowering of standards, quality and hygiene the Port imploded and sank. A shadow of its former self.
Well, no more. In a fabulous new convenient location, bigger better than ever before, the Port will shortly reopen. Love me or hate me I, Tony, guarantee a level of professionalism and quality you came to expect. Remember the old guarantee? You got what you paid for, you got your full time, no hidden extras. The house respected the client. The client respected the house. A simple and winning formula. So take heart my friends. Shortly you will again enter the portals of pleasure at the one and only Tony's Fuengirola Port. Watch the Euroweekly for dates, phone numbers and opening offers. Speak to you all soon. Tony".
Expecting him in Spain by the beginning of July. If I hear any more, I'll let you know.I see Euroweekly has a add to say Fuengirola Port is open again. I also see from the add that the new location is a villa and in a central location. I'm over again in late Sept so if anyone has a update it would be very much appreciated.
Bogman.
MagicSheep74
07-19-18, 18:25
Is 200 really the price at Scandalo now? I speak Spanish and I'm usually, able I'm able to talk the price down at these places. Is it fixed?
And what about the prices at the others places around Malaga? I'm going there in about 2 weeks, and looking for a some good places to go. Can see that Estark is getting good reviews these days? What about the prices there?From my recent memory for the top level girls. All prices for an hour.
Scandalo- 200.
Glass Palace- 200.
Estark- 150.
Milady. Still 300, nonsense.
Navy Bar. Take out. They ask 300, but in reality 200.
Hotelmarbellaromano. Es. Villa open 24 hours - 200.
www.casablancabanus.com - Villa open 24 hours- 150.
www.casavipmarbella.com - Villa opens at 7 pm- 150.
www.annatantra.com - 100 - amazing massage, hot girl.
Of course half these prices for 30 minutes in the clubs, and I believe there is some room for negotiation in Scandalo, but not much.
Estark's line up seems pretty decent for the peak summer months, as well as being reasonably priced.
Have a good one.
From my recent memory for the top level girls. All prices for an hour.
Scandalo- 200.
Glass Palace- 200.
Estark- 150.
Milady. Still 300, nonsense.
Navy Bar. Take out. They ask 300, but in reality 200.
Hotelmarbellaromano. Es. Villa open 24 hours - 200.
www.casablancabanus.com - Villa open 24 hours- 150.
www.casavipmarbella.com - Villa opens at 7 pm- 150.
www.annatantra.com - 100 - amazing massage, hot girl.
Of course half these prices for 30 minutes in the clubs, and I believe there is some room for negotiation in Scandalo, but not much.
Estark's line up seems pretty decent for the peak summer months, as well as being reasonably priced.
Have a good one.I was in Scandalo last night and I can confirm that the normal price is now 220 euros for 1 hour and 110 for 30 minutes. This is ridiculous as it mirrors Club Vive in Madrid which has a hugely better selection of stunners from around the World. The only discretion is for a girl to drop down to 200 and no less. For an hour. Still had 1. 5 hours with my fav Melissa. But she (and Ana. Glasses - looked hot last night) confirmed the new pricing.
I asked how it had been received and both were very shocked that it had driven in more Spanish punters than normal. They are notoriously tight but apparently this has somehow had a positive effect. I would not have believed this had I not witnessed it with my own eyes. At midnight I have never seen the club so busy with guys other than on party nights (Halloween etc). So min 200/ hour.
Glass Palace is 200 but VERY negotiable. Was there a month ago and got 150 if booked 90 minutes or more.
2 hours with 2 ladies in Estark last week (see report - 150 each per hour). LU was reasonable. Not stunning and most definitely not as good as Scandalo last night where there were at least 8 girls of 8+. Many I'the never seen. As with Fontana. There is a big influx this year of South Americans / Dom Republic. Far more than normal.
I've posted lots of times on the debate between Spain and FKK / Germany. I'm afraid this price hiking in Spain is making the choice very easy for me. Nearly all FKKs (other than Artemis in Berlin) remain 50/30 minutes and 100/ hour though most girls want the latter. Measurably better value now. Possible to have a threesome every hour in an FKK with two very pretty girls for the same price as one hour in Scandalo IF you can persuade a girl down from 220/ hour. Sad to see. I had thought it might kill the club off. Particularly as Estark remains 150 - but it hasn't. The increase has just attracted more attractive girls. It came in June 1st. I will be interested to see how this impacts on this club after the summer rush. I've long been a big fan of Scandalo. But won't be heading back any time soon. Estark has a much weaker line up but is acceptable and at 70 less per hour that's a killer. I've whatsapped two regulars at Scandalo both who have agreed to meet me at MN instead for 160 hour. Indeed what was really interesting last night was the group of three guys I saw in the casino at MN (where a large glass of decent red wine is 3 euros! - they kept coming into Scandalos. Then leaving. And 10 minutes later 2 girls would leave the club alone and come into the casino. I have a feeling this is one of the ways the girls are going to ensure they continue to get punters without losing them through the price. It won't take management long to suss this out of course.
Andalus Expat
07-20-18, 16:17
Scandalo- 200.
Milady. Still 300, nonsense.Quite bemused by that comment. You get what you pay for. If anything, would have thought the other way round. Milady's, if you can afford the price, is quality all the way round. Be hard pushed to think of anywhere better to go for an evening. Scandalos is a bunch of scuzzers in a bar on an industrial estate.
I was in Scandalo last night and I can confirm that the normal price is now 220 euros for 1 hour and 110 for 30 minutes. I asked how it had been received and both were very shocked that it had driven in more Spanish punters than normal. They are notoriously tight but apparently this has somehow had a positive effect. I would not have believed this had I not witnessed it with my own eyes. At midnight I have never seen the club so busy with guys other than on party nights (Halloween etc). I had thought it might kill the club off. Particularly as Estark remains 150 - but it hasn't. The increase has just attracted more attractive girls. It came in June 1st. I will be interested to see how this impacts on this club after the summer rush.I would say just wait. Give it some time. But the pessimist in me tells me otherwise. In any event, I won't be returning to Spain to nut inside of pretty girls anytime soon. Was pretty blue-eyed, blonde Lorena there? So pretty still gives me a boner just to think about her hehe!
MagicSheep74
07-20-18, 17:38
Quite bemused by that comment. You get what you pay for. If anything, would have thought the other way round. Milady's, if you can afford the price, is quality all the way round. Be hard pushed to think of anywhere better to go for an evening. Scandalos is a bunch of scuzzers in a bar on an industrial estate.I've been to Milady Palace over 50 times as I live across the road. If there is 20 girls in there at any given night, only one of them is worth 300 euro's hour. Its a nice place, waiters dressed in bow-ties, ladies wearing there best evening wear etc, but the justification for 300 euro a hour is solely based on its catchment area and the convenience of not having to drive. I do like the place, but the women in my opinion are only marginally better than the other commonly mentioned clubs.
My best experiences are still in Scandalo, but I am alcoholic with a drug problem, so its location is an inconvience when the police stop driving pissed out my mind covered in white powder.
Quite bemused by that comment. You get what you pay for. If anything, would have thought the other way round. Milady's, if you can afford the price, is quality all the way round. Be hard pushed to think of anywhere better to go for an evening. Scandalos is a bunch of scuzzers in a bar on an industrial estate.I've only been to Milady once because it was so underwhelming, I would rather pay 300€ at Vive. It lacked in quantity as well as in quality compared to Scandalo. Maybe I need to re-visit.
I would feel cheated if I paid 200€ for an hour in Scandalo.
I would say just wait. Give it some time. But the pessimist in me tells me otherwise. In any event, I won't be returning to Spain to nut inside of pretty girls anytime soon. Was pretty blue-eyed, blonde Lorena there? So pretty still gives me a boner just to think about her hehe!Not there. I've sessioned with her several times in the past. Cute blonde bob with killer body. I know she went to Vive for a spell last year. Can cut the mustard there too.
I agree with the view on Miladys being over-estimated. Spent years going there and with the exception of one Hungarian stunner who I shall not forget, it's totally overpriced and the LU is no better than in Scandalo and is most definitely not a patch on Vive in Madrid.
My best experiences are still in Scandalo, but I am alcoholic with a drug problem, so its location is an inconvience when the police stop driving pissed out my mind covered in white powder.We share so many things in common MagicSheep74 next trip we must meet up!
Pep.
Brit Funlover
07-21-18, 23:04
From my recent memory for the top level girls. All prices for an hour.
Scandalo- 200.
Glass Palace- 200.
Estark- 150.
Milady. Still 300, nonsense.
Navy Bar. Take out. They ask 300, but in reality 200.
Hotelmarbellaromano. Es. Villa open 24 hours - 200..Casa Blanca is a recently opened villa under same ownership as Casa VIP. Classy house with about 4 very nice bedrooms. Around six girls usually available, mostly SA or Spanish. Not many girls speak English but the management do. Pictures on website are genuine but a fairly quick turnover of girls means what you see is not always what you get! Street parking outside. Open from 12 noon until 6 am. Basic price 150 ph, but OWO extra 20. A is sometimes available but can cost considerably more. Girls drinks are 50 so to be avoided! Outcalls start at 200 ph.
Casa VIP is another nice villa up a quiet road with parking on site. Open 12 noon until 4 am. Everything else pretty much the same as above.
Only been to Casa Blanca once but Casa VIP many times. Most girls good quality and decent service. I've not had a bad punt yet!
MagicSheep74
07-22-18, 05:38
Casa Blanca is a recently opened villa under same ownership as Casa VIP. Classy house with about 4 very nice bedrooms. Around six girls usually available, mostly SA or Spanish. Not many girls speak English but the management do. Pictures on website are genuine but a fairly quick turnover of girls means what you see is not always what you get! Street parking outside. Open from 12 noon until 6 am. Basic price 150 ph, but OWO extra 20. A is sometimes available but can cost considerably more. Girls drinks are 50 so to be avoided! Outcalls start at 200 ph.
Casa VIP is another nice villa up a quiet road with parking on site. Open 12 noon until 4 am. Everything else pretty much the same as above.
Only been to Casa Blanca once but Casa VIP many times. Most girls good quality and decent service. I've not had a bad punt yet!Thats the one's mate.
Casa Blanca is a stunning villa with excellent rooms. I opted for a 30 minutes session for 80 euro's, just to take a test drive. Excellent service I received from a young Colombian.
Another one to mention is. Casamasa - which is now called. Hotelmarbellaromano. I guess they changed location or the name after the recent shooting, but 200 euro a hour is a little high.
I prefer the clubs at night if I have the choice, but these places are a decent daytime punt.
I also keep my eye on - slumi.com which sometimes has some good independents on it. After I contacting the girl via whatsapp, then I ask to make a 30 second video call to confirm its the girl in the picture.
If she refuses, then I presume she is fake, if she's accept the quick video chat and she is real, then game on.
There is a Brazilian called Anne on there at the moment in the Marbella section that's a cracker - 80 euro for 30 mins.
Enjoy.
Quite bemused by that comment. You get what you pay for. If anything, would have thought the other way round. Milady's, if you can afford the price, is quality all the way round. Be hard pushed to think of anywhere better to go for an evening. Scandalos is a bunch of scuzzers in a bar on an industrial estate.Wow what a comment! Very bizarre and bemusing! A scuzzer is " A Lady of low morals who will sleep with anyone for a free night out or in search of drugs. " and " a dirty, grimy, sordid, or repulsive person or thing " Can't see this applies to many WGs I have encountered in Scandalos but have encountered these types working for pimps in the unregulated Villas and Apartments around the CDS.
I agree with the view on Miladys being over-estimated. Spent years going there and with the exception of one Hungarian stunner who I shall not forget, it's totally overpriced and the LU is no better than in Scandalo and is most definitely not a patch on Vive in Madrid.
I've been to Milady Palace over 50 times as I live across the road. If there is 20 girls in there at any given night, only one of them is worth 300 euro's hour. Its a nice place, waiters dressed in bow-ties, ladies wearing there best evening wear etc, but the justification for 300 euro a hour is solely based on its catchment area and the convenience of not having to drive. I do like the place, but the women in my opinion are only marginally better than the other commonly mentioned clubs..
I've only been to Milady once because it was so underwhelming, I would rather pay 300 at Vive. It lacked in quantity as well as in quality compared to Scandalo. Maybe I need to re-visit..3 supporting comments on Scandalos quality and as it takes WGs from Viva Madrid, which is recognised as having many, many 9's working there and the best selection of pretty and attractive WGs in Euroland new visitors to the CDS's Puti Club scene can safely ignore Andaluz Expats strange out burst!
Visited De Costa and Scandalo during the World Cup.
Wasn't overly impressed by the lineup, although it was not bad compared to earlier visits. Didn't do any sessions. A short haired girl supposedly Spanish who claimed to be up for everything (whatever that means). Also a short and curvy Brazilian MILF with a cute smile and youngish look. Very tanned or half-mulatta.
Unfortunately I've no names but you might recognize them by the description.
My friend complained over the girls always commenting his looks and thought it was a bad and cheap way of trying to get his business since they didn't seem interested without him paying lmfao.
Andalus Expat
08-01-18, 23:28
Wow what a comment! Very bizarre and bemusing! A scuzzer is " A Lady of low morals who will sleep with anyone for a free night out or in search of drugs. " and " a dirty, grimy, sordid, or repulsive person or thing " It was the original comparison I found bizarre. Milady's with Scandalos. They don't really belong on the same page. Like comparing a decent restaurant with a motorway service area diner. They both sell steak 'and chips. But in the first you're paying for the ambiance. You don't go to Watford Gap for a romantic evening. Haven't been to Milady's that often. Living here, I lost interest in clubs a long time ago. When I have it's cost me a lot more than 300. (Do Milady's girls do half hours? I've never asked) But that's the point isn't it? Comfortable sofas not a shortage of perches on stools. Polite service. A lack of poorly shaped apes pretending to be security. And a scarcity of assholes amongst the clientèle. Well, for Spain, anyway.
MagicSheep74
08-04-18, 19:21
It was the original comparison I found bizarre. Milady's with Scandalos. They don't really belong on the same page. Like comparing a decent restaurant with a motorway service area diner. They both sell steak 'and chips. But in the first you're paying for the ambiance. You don't go to Watford Gap for a romantic evening. Haven't been to Milady's that often. Living here, I lost interest in clubs a long time ago. When I have it's cost me a lot more than 300. (Do Milady's girls do half hours? I've never asked) But that's the point isn't it? Comfortable sofas not a shortage of perches on stools. Polite service. A lack of poorly shaped apes pretending to be security. And a scarcity of assholes amongst the clientele. Well, for Spain, anyway.Half an hour is 180 euro.
I'm summary, there is no difference between Scandalo and Milady Palace. They sell sex and alcohol, Scandalo is 200 because its in an industrial estate in the middle of bumtown, Milady is 300 because its on the golden mile in Marbella. For other members. Milady Palace is deliberately expensive, but if you find yourself in Marbella and you don't have a car, but do have money. Check it out.
Word of warning. Don't bring a credit card. My last friend that came down was like a kid in a candy shop. 12 hours later, he was 7000 euro down. His wife filed for divorce when he came home.
Half an hour is 180 euro.
I'm summary, there is no difference between Scandalo and Milady Palace. They sell sex and alcohol, Scandalo is 200 because its in an industrial estate in the middle of bumtown, Milady is 300 because its on the golden mile in Marbella. For other members. Milady Palace is deliberately expensive, but if you find yourself in Marbella and you don't have a car, but do have money. Check it out.
Word of warning. Don't bring a credit card. My last friend that came down was like a kid in a candy shop. 12 hours later, he was 7000 euro down. His wife filed for divorce when he came home.Nice info and agree with your summary MagicSheep Scandalos on a busy night and with Pole Dancers does at least have a bit of atmosphere sadly missing from MLP. Bizarre how people associate a passe' and dated Villa in Marbella with WGs looking to extort as much money from you as possible as well as charging inflated prices as a safe place to use your credit card. The dangers of alcohol combined with the power of the pussy. Can always remember my visits to Miladys as educational. Always left thinking why do the WGs have such an entitlement attitude when only one of them would be as attractive as a 9 in Scandalos and not bang nearly as well as you can find a Puta in Estark and the majority always seemed to be approaching that age where they were fighting the inevitable reclassification of being a MILF! Scandalos when it has a good selection of WGs has the one's that at least appear to have recently been 25 yrs old and are pretty! Obviously getting a good service upstairs is another art! But can exist.
For those new to exploring and practising this hobby on the CDS and don't have time and Spanish to explore the Villas and Indies in apartments in Malaga go to Scandalos despite the rise in prices and South of Malaga go Estark92 near Fuengirola.
I visited this club a few times in the last weeks. 50/30 min and 80/1 h with a nice young chinese girl, long deep BBBJ, narrow hairy pussy, ended with CIM.
No expensive ripoffclubs for me!
TeddyBears
08-06-18, 01:30
Have anyone been to Glasspalace or Divas this summer and willing to review?
I visited this club a few times in the last weeks. 50/30 min and 80/1 h with a nice young chinese girl, long deep BBBJ, narrow hairy pussy, ended with CIM.
No expensive ripoffclubs for me!Good to hear this, as I used to go there often when the previous owner was there, but have not been back since he sold out about 6 months ago.
At the same time the Club Asia up the road towards San Pedro closed down and I assumed that they had moved to the Oriental Club and as I never really liked the Club Asia girls or their attitude, I did not bother to go back to the Oriental. However will now give it a try again.
Banter.
Mancio7819
08-09-18, 17:23
Good to hear this, as I used to go there often when the previous owner was there, but have not been back since he sold out about 6 months ago.
At the same time the Club Asia up the road towards San Pedro closed down and I assumed that they had moved to the Oriental Club and as I never really liked the Club Asia girls or their attitude, I did not bother to go back to the Oriental. However will now give it a try again.
Banter.I went a few times to Club Asia over the years and was generally sorry to see it'the closed down this year. I had a number of memorable two-girl sessions there, though lately there was only ever one girl (the older woman who had always been the boss). Going with her was quite kinky but she was very matter-of-fact and no beauty.
In June of this year I returned to Oriental Club, where I'the been very disappointed years before with the standard of girls. This time there was a fairly attractive Chinese girl there – quite tall, slim, nice legs. Also, it was cheap, as reported here. The drawback for me of this place is the hygiene – on my first visit years ago, there was a cockroach running around the room, and this time I heard at least one again! If it wasn't for this, I would return, but I find it very off-putting!
Planning to return to another old favorite of mine, Fei Oriental Massage in Puerto Banus, shortly so will update you all after that. It had gone downhill last year and I swore I'the never return, but the western coast doesn't seem to have much else to offer.
Cocodrilito
08-11-18, 02:26
Hi guys,
I'm looking for advice as to whether it's better to stay in Málaga or Benalmádena if one wants to enjoy a summer / autumn holiday during the daytime and spend some quality time at night. By 'quality time' I mean mainly two types of activities:
1. Going to strip clubs / brothels where I can both 1) only dance with the girls and 2) take them away / go upstairs with them if I feel like doing it.
2. Having some fun with freelancers met in the street.
I'm interested mostly in Spanish and Romanian girls, but also like those from LatAm or Africa.
In case I decided to stay in Benalmádena, I could book a package holiday, which would be easier in many aspects. But I also know that in Catalonia it's best to stay in Barcelona and thought that it might be similar in Andalusia. I also don't rule out the possibility of going somewhere else in the south of the country.
Thanks in advance for your replies and recommendations.
Cocodrilito.
Andalus Expat
08-11-18, 10:45
Hi guys,
I'm looking for advice as to whether it's better to stay in Mlaga or Benalmdena if one wants to enjoy a summer / autumn holiday during the daytime and spend some quality time at night. By 'quality time' I mean mainly two types of activities:
1. Going to strip clubs / brothels where I can both 1) only dance with the girls and 2) take them away / go upstairs with them if I feel like doing it.
2. Having some fun with freelancers met in the street.
I'm interested mostly in Spanish and Romanian girls, but also like those from LatAm or Africa.
In case I decided to stay in Benalmdena, I could book a package holiday, which would be easier in many aspects. But I also know that in Catalonia it's best to stay in Barcelona and thought that it might be similar in Andalusia. I also don't rule out the possibility of going somewhere else in the south of the country.
Thanks in advance for your replies and recommendations.
Cocodrilito.Interesting request there because you're making a common mistake. Meeting a girl in a brothel club, and Malaga has several, is in no way similar to meeting a girl in a disco. There is no need to romance or seduce them. They are there for one reason only. To part you from your money. The quicker they can do that, the quicker they can go to work on some other guy. So anything slows down the process is not in their interest. They despise you from the outset, it's in the nature of the job. Any conversation you have with them, no matter how clever or amusing you think you are, they will have heard a thousand times before. They are not there to enjoy themselves. Sucking a stranger's cock & letting him hump them gets more distasteful the more they do it. They are simply there for the money.
For what you're looking for, I'd be inclined to go to an ordinary disco in Benalmadena, Torremolinos or any of the other resorts. There's usually freelancers & part timers working them. Look for attractive girls, on their own. Make eye contact & let them come to you. They'll be presuming you're naive enough to not realise what the game is. They'll be seducing you. Buy them a couple of drinks, have your dance, let them get around to the offer. From then on, it's up to you. But be careful! Go to your hotel, not somewhere they suggest. And make sure you don't leave anything valuable & portable around the room. In short, always make sure you're in control.
In truth, this is probably the best entertainment available on the coast. If you know what you're doing. I live here & it's my favourite sport. There's a lot of girls come down here believing the streets are paved with gold. They ain't. Why you see so many attractive chicks wiping restaurant tables. Jobs are hard to find. Especially as a lot of the girls don't have residence papers. So they turn to renting the assets. But, for the same reason, the clubs, apartments, houses etc the usual avenues to do so, won't touch them. Having an undocumented girl on the premises is a very expensive no-no when the police do an inevitable check. Downsides. There's always the risk of getting yourself in the shit, rolled or something. Take your time. If that's their intention they'll be in a hurry to get you out of the club. Any sign of urgency, abort & look for another. If there's restaurants open, a diversion via one can be a good idea. They're usually hungry & won't turn down a free meal. A restaurant a cab ride away is even better. Now your tail is clear. Someone here's going to say they're all drug addicts. Yeah. Right. And the club girls, of course, aren't. And I have a bridge for sale you might be interested in. Upsides- they can be incredible value for money. I'd usually budget for around 300 a night. The sex can be impressive. The game is to play them like a fish. Let them think they can hook onto you for the duration of your stay. That they've tapped into a money stream.
Seriously avoid any girls on the street. They are not selling sex! If you value the contents of your pockets, don't even let them within arm's length.
EddyTheEagle2
08-11-18, 23:31
Hi guys,
I had my last "Spain-triangle" (NOT the "Bermuda-triangle" LOL) from 23 - 26 July; so after the Worldcup. Started in Madrid (see report in that section) and by "BudBus" (E 20,70 !) to Malaga. Cheap travel and 6,5 hours seems long but I could sleep and arrived early in the night on Tuesday in good shape. Ready for "action"; had booked "IBIS-budget Avenida Velasquez (E 51) so on "walking-distance" to Gualdahorce, "Glass-palace" and "Scandalo" (and the swimming-pool on the rooftop of hotel "Malaga Nostrum" of course: very important in summer!
First round was "S" before la cena (dinner for the girls): good line-up but quiet. So decided to look for (SW's) Rebecca and Laura. Couldn't find Rebecca (later she whatsappt me she had been busy all time from 18.00 - 22.00 and around 22.30 she had left for home) and Laura was enthusiast to see me again. She's a very pretty, slim, high-heeled African girl, good service (CBJ E 10, and S+F E 30, After that relief back to drink a few cheap 1/2 liter cervezas in the Casino / bar of "MN" next to Scandalo. Then into "S". I had already info from "Anni-from-Brazil" that she would be around so some "small-talk" with her and "we'll meet later tonight". She was busy so I had enough time to talk to Nathalie and 2 cute "newbie's" from Brazil: Isabelle and Michelle; nice conversation and if I wouldn't have had a appointment with Anni (for a, as usual outstanding session in my hotel!) I might have had a threesome with them: woooow. Left "S" around 03.00 after saying "bye" to doorman Ibrahim. Passing by "Glass-Palace" on my way to the hotel I went inside and within a few minutes back outside: horrible in comparison to "S".
Next morning breakfast at "MN"; relax at their swimming-pool, whatsapp with SW "Pokehontas" at Calle Ibsen and when she had time for me around 14.00 we met in a former factory for a 1-hour session (E 50,) as always very relaxing-time and 2 orgasms for her and 1 for me.
That night "S" again: same line-up, more men but having slept not much the night before (and having a flight at 11.25 next day) I decided to leave around midnight. Before heading to my hotel one of the (for me new because I couldn't find Laura) SW's "gave me head" so I had my satisfaction for that night. Anni texted me if she should come along but I refused: I wanted to sleep.
And I know she will be at he CDS till August 31 and my next trip will be 28 - 30 August so w'll definitely meet then and, as we say in Holland: "what in het vat zit verzuurt niet' ("what is in the barrel does not sour".
Anyway, enjoy summer over there: "sex is in the air everywhere".
Cheers, Eddy.
Hi guys,
I had enough time to talk to Nathalie and 2 cute "newbie's" from Brazil: Isabelle and Michelle; nice conversation and if I wouldn't have had a appointment with Anni (for a, as usual outstanding session in my hotel!) I might have had a threesome with them: woooow. Just so you know (I'm assuming you did already), 1 hour in S now is 220 euros (same as Vive). So your threesome would have cost 440 for one hour without drinks. That equates to 3 girls in Estark for one hour, or one girl for 3 hours there, or, wait for it, nearly 9 girls for 30 minutes in an FKK in Germany. I'm afraid the pricing in Scandalo has all but killed it for me. Estark is still 150, Fontana 180. Other than Melissa I wouldn't be spending 220 per hour in Scandalo in future. Germany has finally become by far the best value for money.
Andalus Expat
08-12-18, 09:53
Just so you know (I'm assuming you did already), 1 hour in S now is 220 euros (same as Vive). So your threesome would have cost 440 for one hour without drinks. That equates to 3 girls in Estark for one hour, or one girl for 3 hours there, or, wait for it, nearly 9 girls for 30 minutes in an FKK in Germany. I'm afraid the pricing in Scandalo has all but killed it for me. Estark is still 150, Fontana 180. Other than Melissa I wouldn't be spending 220 per hour in Scandalo in future. Germany has finally become by far the best value for money.Your report does make me wonder about you club fanboiz. Damned expensive hobby, done that way! Last week had what is becoming a regular thing. Teresa, Brazilian mulata, was down from Madrid. Got Noelia, Paraguayan, round in the early hours for some joint fun. The girls know & like each other (very much! So a popular gig, all round. Looking at it from a regular punt point of view, the bill would have been 460€ for a nominal two hour session. In actuality, I'd arranged some popular party favours to make the night go with a swing & I get "mates rates" anyway so for me the total expense was somewhat different. Couldn't have been a more full-on night. Anal, with these two when they're really flying is not optional. Nor are a lot of other things. Noelia was here for most of four hours, allowing for a relaxing drink & chat before we got started & some wind down time after. Teresa was staying here anyway.
This wasn't exactly a unique occasion. I can think of several other girls can and are put together in various combinations. Or enjoyed separately, of course. Connecting with them isn't hard, when you know the scene. Most of the good ones I get put on to by other putas or recommendations by mates. So explore & share, guys. It's worthwhile.
EddyTheEagle2
08-12-18, 12:07
1 hour in S now is 220 euros (same as Vive). So your threesome would have cost 440 for one hour without drinks. That equates to 3 girls in Estark for one hour, or one girl for 3 hours there, or, wait for it, nearly 9 girls for 30 minutes in an FKK in Germany. I'm afraid the pricing in Scandalo has all but killed it for me. Estark is still 150, Fontana 180. Other than Melissa I wouldn't be spending 220 per hour in Scandalo in future. Germany has finally become by far the best value for money.Hi, you'are 100% right. I can make it worth: E 440 is 44 CBJ's with the SW's in Gualdahorce. LOL. But to be serious: I allways make these comparisons, even with the girls in 'S" and they don't like of course. By the way, Ibrahim told me this new price would be for "the highseason only" but I have my doubts about it! During my two night at the CDS I didn't have a car (and much time) to visit Fontana or E-Stark (this last one could have been reached by train as well but Florentina is on holidays so less reason to go there). My "40-hours"-visit to the Costa (with "6 pops") was enough "value for time / money" for me.
About Germany: don't forget the entrance of E 60 at Golden Time: the "reduction-bono" is over now. But 440 - 60 = 380 is indeed enough for 7 girls during the day. And in September Brazilian Gabriela and her friends will be back from holidays. So I'll be heading to Bruggen as well.
In the meantime: have fun! E.
Your report does make me wonder about you club fanboiz. Damned expensive hobby, done that way! Last week had what is becoming a regular thing. Teresa, Brazilian mulata, was down from Madrid. Got Noelia, Paraguayan, round in the early hours for some joint fun. The girls know & like each other (very much! So a popular gig, all round. Looking at it from a regular punt point of view, the bill would have been 460 for a nominal two hour session. In actuality, I'd arranged some popular party favours to make the night go with a swing & I get "mates rates" anyway so for me the total expense was somewhat different. Couldn't have been a more full-on night. Anal, with these two when they're really flying is not optional. Nor are a lot of other things. Noelia was here for most of four hours, allowing for a relaxing drink & chat before we got started & some wind down time after. Teresa was staying here anyway.
This wasn't exactly a unique occasion. I can think of several other girls can and are put together in various combinations. Or enjoyed separately, of course. Connecting with them isn't hard, when you know the scene. Most of the good ones I get put on to by other putas or recommendations by mates. So explore & share, guys. It's worthwhile.Noelia, Paraguayan, is she a bit on the older side with blonde hair, big boobs (probably fake)? A classic porno look.
Damn, if I knew that anal was on the table I would maybe have taken her upstairs. BTW, I'm not surprised by the "party favors" since she talked very fast and laughed loudly in the club.
Cocodrilito
08-13-18, 02:45
Interesting request there because you're making a common mistake. Meeting a girl in a brothel club, and Malaga has several, is in no way similar to meeting a girl in a disco. There is no need to romance or seduce them. They are there for one reason only. To part you from your money. The quicker they can do that, the quicker they can go to work on some other guy. (...)
For what you're looking for, I'd be inclined to go to an ordinary disco in Benalmadena, Torremolinos or any of the other resorts. There's usually freelancers & part timers working them. Look for attractive girls, on their own. Make eye contact & let them come to you. They'll be presuming you're naive enough to not realise what the game is. They'll be seducing you. Buy them a couple of drinks, have your dance, let them get around to the offer. From then on, it's up to you. But be careful! Go to your hotel, not somewhere they suggest. And make sure you don't leave anything valuable & portable around the room. In short, always make sure you're in control.
In truth, this is probably the best entertainment available on the coast. (...)
Seriously avoid any girls on the street. They are not selling sex! If you value the contents of your pockets, don't even let them within arm's length.Thank you very much for your reply, which is very valuable for me.
I perfectly understand what the business is about and I don't want to lose my time either.
I should have expressed myself in a more clear way. By 'only dancing with the girls' I meant lap dances as at Barcelona's Bacarrá, for example. Sometimes I'm content with the dances and sometimes I want to do something more / else. The private dances are quite expensive, but they give me an opportunity to get to know the girl better.
To be honest, being in my late 30's I don't go often to discos. I used to frequent them when I was younger, but now I prefer adult entertainment establishments. But maybe I'll consider changing a bit my habit at least when in Costa del Sol. I have picked up girls in discos in the Dominican Republic. And it was a great experience. But as far as I remember I haven't done it (for $) in Europe.
Speaking of Barcelona, I have had fun with girls of European, South American and African origin which I met in La Rambla (it might have been a miracle, but haven't had any serious problems with them) and with dancers working at strip clubs. And I was thinking about acting in a similar way in the area of Malaga. But maybe going to discos instead would be a better idea.
In DR mentioned above I invited girls to the condo I was renting (being aware of the possible danger of being robbed), but when in Spain I prefer using short time rooms. I also don't know whether it would be easy to take a girl to my hotel room in Benalmadena or Torremolinos, especially one without the papers.
P.S. I'm also considering going to Valencia or Alicante instead of Malaga. Madrid is also an option.
PPS I speak Spanish, so the language shouldn't be a problem at least when coping with Spanish girls. (The Romanians usually also speak decent Spanish, especially those who have lived in Spain for some time.).
Andalus Expat
08-20-18, 17:29
Noelia, Paraguayan, is she a bit on the older side with blonde hair, big boobs (probably fake)? A classic porno look.
Damn, if I knew that anal was on the table I would maybe have taken her upstairs. BTW, I'm not surprised by the "party favors" since she talked very fast and laughed loudly in the club.You must be talking about some other Noelia. Noelia I know's an independent. Has her own apartment. Known her for some time now & she's visited on numerous occasions. Always enormous fun. Very, very open minded. Long dark hair, very pretty, superb fit body & very, very sexy. Says she's a believable 28.
TeddyBears
08-27-18, 01:04
Went to Estark92 a few times recently, I must say the lineup was very weak with hardly any stunners at all. Most girls 5-7 on a scale 1-10 with less than a handful of higher standard.
Met Juliana a Brazilian girl with long dark hair, pretty smile and nice body with enhanced tits, says she lives in Barcelona working at a gym so only does this work for a few weeks in the summer. Nice session with very good BBBJ but no kissing. Also met Yuliana the Colombian Pocahontas, she is very pretty but I'm afraid that she has fallen very hard for the drugs and at times feels very disoriented while talking to her. A couple of years ago she was a ten in my book.
Me and a friend visited LE Coq Dor across the street of Torrequebrada Casino, about 15 girls on a Thursday night none of the girls were above 6 on a scale 1-10. Entrance €30 with two drinks included, girls told us 100 for 30 minutes and 150 for one hour. Left without session so can't comment on rooms. The Villa has a nice outdoor area and the inside reminds me of Club Selecta in Torremolinos. Just a shame the girls weren't pretty enough this evening. Just like all the times I've visit Selecta! LOL.
Went to Estark92 a few times recently, I must say the lineup was very weak with hardly any stunners at all. Most girls 5-7 on a scale 1-10 with less than a handful of higher standard.
Also met Yuliana the Colombian Pocahontas, she is very pretty but I'm afraid that she has fallen very hard for the drugs and at times feels very disoriented while talking to her...........................
Me and a friend visited LE Coq Dor across the street of Torrequebrada Casino, ............................... Entrance 30 with two drinks included, girls told us 100 for 30 minutes and 150 for one hour. So five WGs in Estark were higher than 7's. Does not sound too bad to me considering in the heat of August is at it's worst and Spanish Puti Clubs won't be good until early October. Would depend on the day of the week, the time and how long you were there for. Unlike Scandalos the Estark Putas don't need to rush down to the bar immediately after a session as they are not giving up 50% of their fee to the management hence you have to be patient and play the long game there. Judging WGs in Clubs can be a bizarre challenge. Been sat with a Wingman who moans about the levels, upsets several attractive ones with an arrogant don't want to talk to you attitude and goes home with sack full and moaning about the lack of talent then sends me pictures of his latest purchase telling me how great they are and they are Dogs!
Yuliana apparently and sadly is not strong enough to operate a temperate existence whilst in the Clubs. For her the game and clubs are not a good combination. Many WGs there consume their spare time in the Gym and staying away from Cocaine. Seen WGs head to the gym at 04.00 am after a night working, that's how some have changed their attitude to the Puti Club existence!
Never been charged an entrance fee at LE Coq Dior and would refuse to pay one if requested to. Bad luck on that one! . Thanks for the report.
MagicSheep74
08-29-18, 09:09
Went to Estark92 a few times recently, I must say the lineup was very weak with hardly any stunners at all. Most girls 5-7 on a scale 1-10 with less than a handful of higher standard.
Met Juliana a Brazilian girl with long dark hair, pretty smile and nice body with enhanced tits, says she lives in Barcelona working at a gym so only does this work for a few weeks in the summer. Nice session with very good BBBJ but no kissing. Also met Yuliana the Colombian Pocahontas, she is very pretty but I'm afraid that she has fallen very hard for the drugs and at times feels very disoriented while talking to her. A couple of years ago she was a ten in my book.
Me and a friend visited LE Coq Dor across the street of Torrequebrada Casino, about 15 girls on a Thursday night none of the girls were above 6 on a scale 1-10. Entrance 30 with two drinks included, girls told us 100 for 30 minutes and 150 for one hour. Left without session so can't comment on rooms. The Villa has a nice outdoor area and the inside reminds me of Club Selecta in Torremolinos. Just a shame the girls weren't pretty enough this evening. Just like all the times I've visit Selecta! LOL.Haha. I went with that Yuliana, she is as mad as a ships cat! Coked out of her box, must have been a real looker in her day. Her service is like her personality, very erratic. I just bent her over her small coffee table in her room and gave her a good rogering - 75 euro's then bolted.
Also took a visit to - http://nikkymass.es in Marbellla, girls on the website looks lovely, but the reality is very different. 5 girls shown, 4 were a 5/10 and one was a 7/10 - Lina.
Half decent body to body massage - 15 minutes in and the girl asked me if I wanted extras. I asked what was available, she suggested sex. I said no and she continued until I came by hand.
80 euro's for 45 minutes.
Would repeat. No.
Like yourself I didn't see any real lookers in Estark. And the LE Coq Dor was an absolute disgrace when I was there a year ago.
I have not been doing much mongering this summer, but if I am honest I've not been with what I would class a complete stunner for a while.
Maybe it time to head to Madrid for a change, or check out my old haunts in Barcelona.
Take it easy.
Sorry not a report but does anyone have a recommendation for Fuengirola? I'm working out here for a bit and the quality is poor unless you want to spend €500!
Central area best for me.
Thanks all.
Andalus Expat
08-31-18, 20:12
Sorry not a report but does anyone have a recommendation for Fuengirola? I'm working out here for a bit and the quality is poor unless you want to spend 500!
Central area best for me.
Thanks all.I live in Fueng so can probably point you in some interesting directions. You'll need to PM me, because phone numbers, pics ets seem to get moderated out.
Sorry not a report but does anyone have a recommendation for Fuengirola? I'm working out here for a bit and the quality is poor unless you want to spend 500!
Central area best for me.
Thanks all.Hi Alien111,
Welcome to the forum. Its always of amusement when a new member breaks his duck with a question! How about writing a report or 2 on your Fuengi experiences to date that lead you to write E500 is the price for quality down here and then we may consider contributing with some reciprocal information!
Andalus Expat
09-09-18, 15:12
A quick review of a couple of encounters for those have the bottle to stray outside the comfort zone of the clubs.
Midweek was an outcall by a Russian advertising on Pasion as Natacha. Medium height, shoulder length blonde. Turned up very much in street clothes. Half length jeans and a top. Hardly any make-up. Very discrete if you're bothered about this sort of thing. Which I couldn't give a damn about. The exotica comes round here keeps the neighbours entertained. Certainly not unattractive but would benefit from a bit of slap and some decent togs. Speaks pretty good English. So we adjourn to the bedroom. Good slim body, nice legs, small naturals. BBBJ performed with enthusiasm. Played with a few toys to get her in the mood then she climbed aboard whilst holding a vibrator against her clit. Nice mover. Change to doggy and time for her rear. Lot of lube requested & applied and very tight entry. Patience required but soon we were firmly embedded. And then what made this such an outstanding session. Intentionally or reflexively she clenches. During the spasms it's like fucking through a very tight rubber band but there was no sign of discomfort. She was urging me on until a particularly lengthy one brought me over the edge into an amazing climax. Hour's outcall was 120€/ h plus taxi. 30€ extra for anal. She arrived from Alicante Monday and will no doubt hang around if she finds work.
Early hours of Sunday morning found me in Marbella and at a loose end, so thought I'd try a girl I'd seen on Pasion. Variously calls herself Amanda, Luna and a couple other names and owns to 26 or 27. Full face photos show an attractive Latina, large tits & tasteful ink. Works out an apartment on Avenida Ricardo Soriano. If you're visiting; note the entrance to Block be is round the side between the lower level shops. Girl's a Brazilian from Sao Paulo and speaks basic english. Consummate professional. BBBJ. Extensive menu including anal. I get the impression she'd be as filthy as you wanted her to be. Perfect for a party. Fucked her every which way and finished in her mouth. In conversation we found we had friends in common. In fact, she recognised me from another Brazilian's house, although I don't remember fucking her there. Shame she's a hundred euro's worth of taxi fares away or I'd get her round. Maybe for an all nighter with company, I will. In-call's 120€/ h everything included.
And for connoisseurs, someone to look out for. Been exchanging some whatasppery with Carla. Advertises sporadically on Pasion. What you see is what you get. Carla's 39, attractive, slim blonde, small tits, nice legs, speaks Polish & Spanish. When she works, it's in a studio apartment near Fuengirola's big Corte Ingles department store and at times to suit school hours But if she knows you, she'll play away. Carla fucks for money. But she also fucks for fun. And she's somewhat sub. Get her confidence and you can embark on a voyage of exploration and there's little Carla's unwilling to explore. She likes big toys, double penetration, eating pussy and no doubt other things we haven't got around to. Yet. Prices are 80€ an hour, incall. But I'd be more inclined to book her for an entire afternoon.
Went to Estark92 a few times recently, I must say the lineup was very weak with hardly any stunners at all. Most girls 5-7 on a scale 1-10 with less than a handful of higher standard.
.Visited Wednesday and I have to say I was pleasantly surprised by the LU. I'm normally a Scandalos fan but the 220 per hour has cost the club my custom. The girls are NOT on a par with Club Vive in Madrid (same price). So my Scandalo days are all but over until those prices come down. And we know that never happens.
This Wednesday was one of those nights when you make the wrong choices (or rather I did). Was talking to a pretty Ro girl at the bar (dark) with lovely body and considered her but too early. Met probably 10 girls I'd have been happy to session with (and I'm quite picky). Ended up going with my old favourite Alicia (curly blonde) and her dark friend Denisa. Latter has a great body. Mistake. Too many times in the room with the same girl and there just was not the same chemistry as usual. She had too much to drink and her performance was poor. Had 2 hours with them for 250 each. Not a bad price but the service was not great. Returned to the bar 4 am and it was almost dead. Wrong choices of girl. Think I saw the dark Juliana with the gym body. Superb. But I was on the way to the room by then so too late. Better choices next time. Stayed in the hotel. Bit noisey but fine. Much cheaper option than Scandalos.
TeddyBears
09-14-18, 04:03
PFI.
Sorry your threesome didn't work out perfectly, personally I don't try them no more because for me only 1 out of 10 has been fantastic and I don't like those odds! But I have read many of your post in this and other threads before, please keep posting me and many others enjoy reading and share your views on LU.
I myself also like Scandalo better than Estark but same as you I don't fancy the current price. I like to stay minimum one hour in the room with 2-3 girls a night and with current prices I just don't think it's worth it anymore.
Only a handful of the girls at Scandalo inc. Your favorite blonde Melissa is worth that kind of money, but it kills the joy to go there to be honest.
PFI.
Sorry your threesome didn't work out perfectly, personally I don't try them no more because for me only 1 out of 10 has been fantastic and I don't like those odds! But I have read many of your post in this and other threads before, please keep posting me and many others enjoy reading and share your views on LU.
I myself also like Scandalo better than Estark but same as you I don't fancy the current price. I like to stay minimum one hour in the room with 2-3 girls a night and with current prices I just don't think it's worth it anymore.
Only a handful of the girls at Scandalo inc. Your favorite blonde Melissa is worth that kind of money, but it kills the joy to go there to be honest.To thanks TB. I considered PM to Melissa to meet outside the club but as she said to me last time (about 3 months ago) - at 220 hour for a girl who is popular there is no need to leave the club unless the guy wants to agree to a silly price. So I fear for now at least I will restrict my visits to her and Scandalos to maybe once every 6 months. In fairness, there were plenty of options at Estark 92 but I made the wrong choices.
Visited Wednesday and I have to say I was pleasantly surprised by the LU...........................
Had 2 hours with them for 250 each. Not a bad price but the service was not great. Returned to the bar 4 am and it was almost dead. Wrong choices of girl. Think I saw the dark Juliana with the gym body. Superb. Stayed in the hotel. Bit noisey but fine. Much cheaper option than Scandalos.
I considered PM to Melissa to meet outside the club but as she said to me last time (about 3 months ago) - at 220 hour for a girl who is popular there is no need to leave the club unless the guy wants to agree to a silly price. So I fear for now at least I will restrict my visits to her and Scandalos to maybe once every 6 months. In fairness, there were plenty of options at Estark 92 but I made the wrong choices.Great reporting. Well done and thanks for posting. It validates, confirms and reinforces my earlier Estark postings this year. For a Club, it has several good WGs again and is a better option than Scandalos now. For those that bother using the tips and tactics mentioned on the CDS forum by the better contributors as how to get the most bang for your Euro in Clubs then for sure they will have seen this too. I tip my hat to you for the attempt at a duplex but for sure they have a much higher failure rate than a one on one session.
Regarding Melissa in Scandalos. That is one switched on WG. If she ever writes a guide to putaring or tips blog for WGs all us punters are going to be "fucked" ! LOL. But she is one of the 9's that don't have to obey the laws that control the 7's and 8's in Clubs. Whatever the prices and volume of clients her bank balance will always grow. Wonder if she needs an assets and investment manager LOL!
ActiveService
09-17-18, 20:55
I live in Fueng so can probably point you in some interesting directions. You'll need to PM me, because phone numbers, pics ets seem to get moderated out.In the area for a week.
Grateful for any info.
Cheers,
Jim.
I arrive in Fuengirola again on Sunday so hopefully will have another nice time and I'm staying in LOS Boliches.
As usual I have been WhatsAping my usual contacts to arrange to meet. They are Celina, Greaciella and the Asians at Calla Asturias who are all on passion.com. Have also been in touch with a chica that works out of Rodrigo de Triana who says 5 girls works there so might call in.
Has anyone a update on Fuengirola Port since it reopened and has moved to a new location? I saw somewhere that Tony is back running the show so any feedback would be usefull. When the Port closed last year I continued to see Michelle from UK who was working out of her apartment in Fish Ally. Michelle's oral skills are excellent but unfortunately the number I had for her seems to be disconnected.
Will do a report on my return so any new info would be very welcome incl pm's.
Play safe.
Bogman.
Andalus Expat
09-20-18, 17:57
In the area for a week.
Grateful for any info.
Cheers,
Jim.There's something posters requesting info on this site need to get their heads around. Moderation policy on the site seems to generally preclude the posting of service providers' advertised phone numbers on the board & no-one, with any consideration for the girls, would hopefully be stupid enough post exact apartment addresses. That only leaves linking to ads on pasion.com, the main internet resource here for finding talent. Unfortunately, due to the way the Pasion website operates, all the ads are essentially ephemeral. Unless the advertiser has changed the publishing settings (which few do) the adverts expire after a few days (as little as 7). Unless you're reading the linked ad within a few days of the posting, you'll be clicking on a dead link.
So there really isn't any point on posting asking for "info" but having your Personal Message service turned off. No-one can share their up to date knowledge with you, if they wanted to.
In June of this year I returned to Oriental Club, where I'the been very disappointed years before with the standard of girls. This time there was a fairly attractive Chinese girl there quite tall, slim, nice legs. Also, it was cheap, as reported here. The drawback for me of this place is the hygiene on my first visit years ago, there was a cockroach running around the room, and this time I heard at least one again! If it wasn't for this, I would return, but I find it very off-putting!As mentioned in a prior post I used to go to the Oriental Club when the previous owner was there, the last time was over a year ago, however following Mancio's report I decided to check it out again with a friend.
Only two girls were there, neither of them attractive, but hell we decided to try them as it was late, my friend had an early flight in the morning, we both like Asian girls and we did not feel like continuing on to the Glass Palace. Once in the room my girl undressed and then left the room for several minutes for no apparent reason.
My friend and the other girl undressed in the other room and then she took him to a shower in another room, then returned and got down to business. On arriving back at our apartment my friend then found money missing from his trouser pocket. It appears that while my friend and the girl were in the shower my girl slipped out and went through his pockets and stole money.
Although you should never leave your clothes out of your site, my friend thought that the other girl was with me. So guys a word of warning, if you try out the Oriental Club, be well aware of this trick and take extra care.
For your information it was 50 euros for 30 minutes and the services offered were complete crap with my girl sucking me and then pulling away at the crucial moment.
Banter.
Once in the room my girl undressed and then left the room for several minutes for no apparent reason.
My friend and the other girl undressed in the other room and then she took him to a shower in another room, then returned and got down to business. On arriving back at our apartment my friend then found money missing from his trouser pocket. It appears that while my friend and the girl were in the shower my girl slipped out and went through his pockets and stole money.
Banter.Banter thanks for the heads up. Although thieves come in many guises, the worse the venue surely the more likely this sort of behaviour will happen and that venue surely comes in the dump category. A rule of Brothels is to leave surplus cash in the car along with your CCs or have a poacher's pocket sown into your clothing! Hope your friend was not robbed of much!
MagicSheep74
10-08-18, 01:56
Feeling rather bored early week, I popped out for a pint of milk and accidentally slipped my penis into 2 prostitutes. It goes as follow.
Day 1- www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/morenita-caribena-griego-a-tope-527122855.htm.
This little minx took me by complete surprise, Luna, 21,155 cm, Pretty Face, beautiful body, Dominican. 50 euro for 30 minutes.
She was playful, fun and sexy as hell. I offered her 300 euro for 9 hours, 3 pm to 12 pm and she accepted. We hit the bars nearby In fuengirola for 1 or 2 hours, then back to her apartment she shared with another girl in Fuengirola. Nothing was off limits, Anal, CIM etc etc. Had a great time, my first positive pasion.com experience.
Day 1- Still. After Fuengirola I heads to the old. Casamasa in Marbella. Now known as - www.hotelmarbellaromano.es. Arrived about midnight, has 5 girls to choose from. I would say they were an average of 6 to 7/10 , but out of the corner of my eye I spotted South American walking past in the extremely tight dress with a spectacular body. I requested her to come over and her name was Jessica was Colombia, she had almost blond hair with a body to die for. Took her 200 one hour, ouch, then headed to there luxurious rooms for a game of hide the sausage into 2 of her 3 holes. Good girls, great service. All in all an expensive but great day.
Day 2- Scandalo. Did not see anyone worth the money, so had my Heineken and left after a hour. Maybe choose a bad night.
Take it easy.
Andalus Expat
10-08-18, 08:33
Feeling rather bored early week, I popped out for a pint of milk and accidentally slipped my penis into 2 prostitutes. It goes as follow.
Day 1- www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/morenita-caribena-griego-a-tope-527122855.htm.
This little minx took me by complete surprise, Luna, 21,155 cm, Pretty Face, beautiful body, Dominican. 50 euro for 30 minutes.
She was playful, fun and sexy as hell. I offered her 300 euro for 9 hours, 3 pm to 12 pm and she accepted. We hit the bars nearby In fuengirola for 1 or 2 hours, then back to her apartment she shared with another girl in Fuengirola. Nothing was off limits, Anal, CIM etc etc. Had a great time, my first positive pasion.com experience..Well done, Mr Sheep. You've found the mulata goldseam. She is an absolute delight, isn't she? Been around under a several names for a year or so. (Often 2 or 3 of them at the same time.) Lovely little body & allows unrestricted access to all its delights. She also tells me she's up for threesomes. FMF or MFM. The 300 for the day's interesting. I've been considering booking her for the night, match her with one of the other girls. Gives me a basis for negotiation.
Ventured back to Estark 92 on Thursday. Quickly met a girl I'the never seen before though she maintains she has been a regular for several years. Anna Maria. Blonde. Has a Marilyn Monroe style haircut blonde and slim. Fantastic natural Dee cups. Very intelligent. After a quick round of the club I rejected my normal Alicia and some others and had 2 hours with Anna. Excellent service and a bright young lady with business sense. I'the repeat.
Bored the next day tried Nikkys massage in Puerto Banus. B2 B massage 130 and girl (Sophia was my choice from 6) will offer FS for extra 100 and would not negotiate. So pricey but the service was excellent and I'the have been happy to choose 3 of the 6 from the LU.
This thread has gone very quiet. I'm beginning to think the new pricing structure at Scandalos will kill it (now 220/ hour). Shame. Its been a great club. I was told in Estark that Scandalos has had a "clean out" of girls. Anyone fat has been told they cannot work there now. Clearly an attempt to raise the standard to justify the 220.
This thread has gone very quiet. I'm beginning to think the new pricing structure at Scandalos will kill it (now 220/ hour). Shame. Its been a great club. I was told in Estark that Scandalos has had a "clean out" of girls. Anyone fat has been told they cannot work there now. Clearly an attempt to raise the standard to justify the 220.You've got admire the proactive management at Scandalos! They sure do shake things up there to keep it fresh. It will also mean some putas jumping on the train to Carvajal to increase the numbers at Estark. Can't wait.
Thanks for the report PayForIt.
Andalus Expat
10-15-18, 13:36
You've got admire the proactive management at Scandalos! They sure do shake things up there to keep it fresh. It will also mean some putas jumping on the train to Carvajal to increase the numbers at Estark. Can't wait.
Thanks for the report PayForIt.It would be interesting to know what's behind the Scandalos price hike. Anyone know what their business model is? Estark makes its crust by renting rooms and the bar take. One suspects Scandalos has seen a fall-off in revenue and is trying to make up the difference from the girls. This peculiarly Spanish response to declining turnover was discussed here some while ago. Business is bad, put your prices up and make it worse.
And there's little doubt the industry's been going through a lean patch. There just isn't the money in the Spanish working man's back pocket and that's where most of the "trade" comes from. Compounded by there being far fewer extranjeros waving their wads about. An effective 25% Sterling devaluation has put a distinct crimp in Brit style, for a start. Take one of the independents, I know. Her preferred work pattern has always been midday to nine in the evening, weekdays only. I now see her running autorenew ads on Pasion.com until after midnight, Sundays. She actually rang me, late one night last week. Viable excuse but fairly obviously hoping for a booking. (Which she got. She's irresistible) After a strenuous couple of hours fueled by half a bottle of vodka she was telling me that most of the work she's been getting has been 20€/20 minutes "polvo express". And that's a girl who's good looking, an extremely versatile range of services and has been here several years and built herself up an extensive book of regulars. Nevertheless, I expect those who frequent them have noticed most of the apartment girls have hiked their rates in the last year or so. 25% seems common. Latin logic.
One who hasn't, just left. Lorena'a Colombiana, advertises as 39 and that's probably about ball-park. Nice tanned bod with an ample plastic rack, could belong to a xica ten years younger. Much into affectionate kissing is Lorena and generally a fun lay. Exhaustive list of services, including enthusiastic but snug anal and a natural CIM would rival a Dyson. When she's working here it's generally at the apartment on the corner of Calle Selinas, LOS Boliches, known by regular puta fanciers. And a very economical 60€/ hour for the vanilla menu, with excursions extra. Outcalls, obviously a little dearer. Likes cava and CMP, if you're hosting and want to get the best out of her.
I've been going to Casa Vip in central Marbella for years; total perhaps 50 x. Have always gotten excellent service. Girls are 6-9/10. Have had some real stunners. Prices are EUR80/30 minutes. I heard Casa Blanca, across the N340 from Puerto Banus, is under the same management but haven't been there yet. Girl turnover in both places is high, which is good if you like variety.
Recently I've tried many girls from pasion.com. Chances are 50/50 on getting a good girl. You never know who is going to open the door when you finally arrange a date. I had great experiences but most are just OK. Many use totally false pics. Look for those pics which look like they've been shot with a cellphone, and prefer girls who post numerous of these pics.
I've been going to Casa Vip in central Marbella for years; total perhaps 50 x. Have always gotten excellent service. Girls are 6-9/10. Have had some real stunners. Prices are EUR80/30 minutes. I heard Casa Blanca, across the N340 from Puerto Banus, is under the same management but haven't been there yet. Girl turnover in both places is high, which is good if you like variety.
Recently I've tried many girls from pasion.com. Chances are 50/50 on getting a good girl. You never know who is going to open the door when you finally arrange a date. I had great experiences but most are just OK. Many use totally false pics. Look for those pics which look like they've been shot with a cellphone, and prefer girls who post numerous of these pics.Hi LikeGirls,
Thanks for the post. See both of those establishments advertise heavily on all the electronic formats for Putas. What sort of prices have you been paying and do the Putas in the ads actually work there or are they just repeat pics from over the years of Putas no longer working there?
Yes Pasion and the similar Electronic sites are riddled with Bait & S. Pics but your suggestions are a good way to be surer of seeing the Puta in the pics. You can always ask for pics to be sent to you via Whatsapp!
MagicSheep74
10-23-18, 19:44
I've been going to Casa Vip in central Marbella for years; total perhaps 50 x. Have always gotten excellent service. Girls are 6-9/10. Have had some real stunners. Prices are EUR80/30 minutes. I heard Casa Blanca, across the N340 from Puerto Banus, is under the same management but haven't been there yet. Girl turnover in both places is high, which is good if you like variety.
Recently I've tried many girls from pasion.com. Chances are 50/50 on getting a good girl. You never know who is going to open the door when you finally arrange a date. I had great experiences but most are just OK. Many use totally false pics. Look for those pics which look like they've been shot with a cellphone, and prefer girls who post numerous of these pics.Hey Likegirls,
I have been to Casablanca 3 times, which is under the same management. I found one attractive girl in July, but the last 2 times I found nothing I would rate higher than a 6/10. On both these occasions I just had a beer and left. An absolutely stunning villa which costs them 5000 a month to rent.
I will give Casa VIP a try next time time I am back in November. Casamasa always seems to have one really attractive girl, but at a higher cost - 150/30 , or 200/60 minutes.
Overall I have found the standard in the Coast a little poorer than I remember in subsequent years. If Scandalo managed to get some girls of similar standard to Vive Madrid at 220 an hour, I would venture back more often. Last time I was there 3 weeks ago, I found nothing that would justify that price.
I found a diamond on www.pasion.com recently that I mentioned in a recent post. Luna.
It would be interesting to know what's behind the Scandalos price hike. Anyone know what their business model is? Estark makes its crust by renting rooms and the bar take. One suspects Scandalos has seen a fall-off in revenue and is trying to make up the difference from the girls. This peculiarly Spanish response to declining turnover was discussed here some while ago. Business is bad, put your prices up and make it worse.
And there's little doubt the industry's been going through a lean patch. There just isn't the money in the Spanish working man's back pocket and that's where most of the "trade" comes from. Compounded by there being far fewer extranjeros waving their wads about. An effective 25% Sterling devaluation has put a distinct crimp in Brit style, for a start. I agree entirely on the ridiculous lack of commercial efficacy. During the lowest point of the recession I played golf at one of the top clubs where I'the always paid €120 per person for a round. Very expensive but top club. I got there one day with 3 fellow golfers to be told by the guy in the Pro shop that today the price was €200. I told him we'the leave it and asked why the massive increase. He said times were bad and there were only 4 players on the course so they "had to make it up". When I asked him why not reduce to €75 and market it as they'the get 50 players he looked at me like I'the lost my marbles. "Reduce?" he exclaimed as though I was crazy. I asked him how many players had paid the €200 and he said it was just those 4, none the day before! I tried to explain but he said reducing would devalue the club! Fabulous.
But I don't think this is the rationale at Scandalos. For whatever reason this spring saw an influx of ladies from the Dominican Republic and whilst there are undoubtedly one or two beauties (Mary at Fontana), many are "curvy". Several hit Scandalos. I think they are fairly cliquish and passive aggressive and upset the usual EE throng. So in part the strategy was to get rid of them. And hiking the price would make a quick punt for 220 euros too risky with one of these sharky curvy girls. Now they've told them flat out they cannot work there.
The second part of this strategy I think is wholly misconceived. If you think of the clubs in Madrid (this analysis doesn't work with SWs) you have Diana Plus (100 per hour), Factory Air 150-180 per hour depending on how you negotiate or Flowers about the same but after a 50 euro+ cab to get there and same back unless you take forever on PT. But THEN you have Vive and its crazy 240 euros per hour (was 220 but has increased now). But it 100% works because although the rooms are poor, the level of girls in the LU, for me, is the best I've ever seen. And I've mongered for 30 years all over the world. I've not tried the even more expensive Pygmalion but must do so at some point. People BELIEVE that if you pay more you get better quality. Not always true and I've some amazing nights in Diana Plus. But not the point. At Diana or Factory you are going looking for that elusive 9/10 girl. At Vive there is one every 10 metres! So you are very unlikely to leave Vive without a punt. This "price point + quality = custom" equation works there. It is mirrored in many other locations. Milady Palace at 300€ per hour (and has been for 14 years) does not struggle. Not quite the same quality factor as Vive but still higher than the alternatives in Navy Bar, Glass Palace and elsewhere. Even in FKK land. Whilst Sharks / Oase / World / Mainhattan / Palace / Paradise / Sunshine (Frankfurt / Stuttgart / Munich) have 50€/30 minutes and often have great LUs but they fluctuate it is well known that the general LU at Globe in Zurich is excellent and does not fluctuate. Hence the 280 CHF per hour price.
So I believe Scandalos management has taken a decision to go out there as the quality club at that end of the coast and that you will get a great line up if you pay those prices. I believe this is risky because I have never seen more than 3 9/10 girls in the club at once. Lots of 8's which is not bad but not a lot of 9's. That will need to change for this to work.
I'm back over in a few weeks and I've decided I'm heading back to Scandalos one night to check out whether this policy has worked. When it was first introduced Melissa told me she had not seen a lack of punters in the club. Unless the quality of the offering has markedly improved (which I doubt) that will no longer be the case. I will not be shy of telling them why I've abandoned the club to go to Estark 92.
One final thing: it is interesting that the clubs that have adopted this quality line up / high cost model rarely have the best facilities! The rooms in Glass Palace Estepona wipe the floor with Scandalos. The girls maintaining their own rooms at Diana Plus provide better facility than the rooms at Vive. That one with the red plastic mattress up against a mirror downstairs in Vive is terrible and I refuse to spend 240€ to have an hour in it. The rooms at Miladys are ok but tired. The rooms at Globe are nothing compared to the best rooms at Mainhattan though the LU is weaker in the latter. Maybe these "top" clubs don't believe they need to spend bucks on the facilities as they can simply rely upon the quality of LU.
So. That's my two cents on the Scandalos strategy. I don't believe it will work because the LU quality has never been THAT great, and the location is awful. Miladys get away with it because of its close proximity to Banus and Marbella and the attendant wealth. I really doubt that a club on an industrial estate will carry this off. As its an option I hope it doesn't kill it off. But one thing is for sure. The Spanish never revert to plan be if involves price reduction. So I fear for the future of the club. Will report back when I've seen it with my own eyes.
Galaxieswede
10-24-18, 02:01
OK must admit I am new in this as a swede.
Also newly divorced and for me was Estark like heaven, couldn't dream about so many ladies at one time. But I did the beginners mistake and did my choice in the first bar that impressed me with 10 OK girls. Didn't know about the disco where all the Girls was hiding but found out that I have to go back tomorrow for a second round and this time just take it easy and make a better choice. Didn't argue about the price 175 for 60 min with the Romanian girl Alina. Little fat ass but a tall girl with blonde hair and big boobs. Hopefully back tomorrow and see what the 9 point girls want for 60 min. 10 for a beer and 20 for a "drink" was not worth the price.
Hey Likegirls,
I have been to Casablanca 3 times, which is under the same management. I found one attractive girl in July, but the last 2 times I found nothing I would rate higher than a 6/10. On both these occasions I just had a beer and left. An absolutely stunning villa which costs them 5000 a month to rent.
I will give Casa VIP a try next time time I am back in November. Casamasa always seems to have one really attractive girl, but at a higher cost - 150/30 , or 200/60 minutes.
Overall I have found the standard in the Coast a little poorer than I remember in subsequent years. If Scandalo managed to get some girls of similar standard to Vive Madrid at 220 an hour, I would venture back more often. Last time I was there 3 weeks ago, I found nothing that would justify that price.
I found a diamond on www.pasion.com recently that I mentioned in a recent post. Luna.Pasion.com girls typically ask EUR50-80/ HR. The prices pretty much correspond to their quality and looks: EUR50 for 5-6/10 girls, EUR60 for 6-7/10 girls and so forth. Your suggestion to ask for pics via WhatsApp is good but they might just send you the same ones they've published in pasion.com. Some girls post photos with their phone numbers. This might be a further test. Yet another thing to look for is the number of hits the ad got, which is in the upper right hand corner of each ad. If there are huge number of hits (100,000-200,000), it is likely to be an institutional ad showing a variety of pics over time. Often Russians do this in Marbella. Avoid them. The real girls behind these ads look nothing like the pics. Malaga and Fuengirola are betters bets than Marbella because the volume and competition among girls is higher. Generally, avoid girls posting highly professional pics, with optimal lighting, etc.
A added problem with independents is that they might be unreliable and simply forget a date you made them just a day before. They all like to sleep late, so mornings almost never works.
Still, I kind of like the little adventure of contacting a new girl and seeing her for the first time when she opens the door for you.
I live in Marbella, so Malaga & Fuen are too far unless I'm travelling to the airport.
Girls in Puerto Banus clubs are a total rip off, asking for EUR 150-250 by girls who normally would go for EUR70 max.
I agree entirely on the ridiculous lack of commercial efficacy. During the lowest point of the recession I played golf at one of the top clubs where I'the always paid 120 per person for a round. Very expensive but top club. I got there one day with 3 fellow golfers to be told by the guy in the Pro shop that today the price was 200. I told him we'the leave it and asked why the massive increase. He said times were bad and there were only 4 players on the course so they "had to make it up". When I asked him why not reduce to 75 and market it as they'the get 50 players he looked at me like I'the lost my marbles. "Reduce?" he exclaimed as though I was crazy. I asked him how many players had paid the 200 and he said it was just those 4, none the day before! I tried to explain but he said reducing would devalue the club! Fabulous.
But I don't think this is the rationale at Scandalos. For whatever reason this spring saw an influx of ladies from the Dominican Republic and whilst there are undoubtedly one or two beauties (Mary at Fontana), many are "curvy". Several hit Scandalos. I think they are fairly cliquish and passive aggressive and upset the usual EE throng. So in part the strategy was to get rid of them. And hiking the price would make a quick punt for 220 euros too risky with one of these sharky curvy girls. Now they've told them flat out they cannot work there..I totally agree with your views on Scandalos and the overall concept of raising prices when business is bad. This contradicts human nature. The best is to boycott all establishments which are pointlessly overpriced or which raise prices without a commensurate increases in quality. Others with more intelligence and business sense will fill in the void, even in Spain.
OK must admit I am new in this as a swede.
Also newly divorced and for me was Estark like heaven, couldn't dream about so many ladies at one time. But I did the beginners mistake and did my choice in the first bar that impressed me with 10 OK girls. Didn't know about the disco where all the Girls was hiding but found out that I have to go back tomorrow for a second round and this time just take it easy and make a better choice. Didn't argue about the price 175 for 60 min with the Romanian girl Alina. Little fat ass but a tall girl with blonde hair and big boobs. Hopefully back tomorrow and see what the 9 point girls want for 60 min. 10 for a beer and 20 for a "drink" was not worth the price.Hi Galaxie Swede,
Welcome to the wonderful world of Estark. A real eye opener for those who come from countries where the socialists have criminalised punters and heaven for those that have just been beaten up from the divorce courts. Yes you have committed basic beginners errors but you are not the first and won't be the last to do that. Alina is not a bad introduction to the scene you could have got really unlucky with your choice and E175 is expensive for that Club but again she could have really killed your wallet. Try to negotiate between E120 and E140 for an hour at Estark. Naturally as a senior member and a long time user of E92 I will say Read The Forum as there is lots and lots and lots of information on how to play the Club so you hopefully get more bang for your buck and a more pleasurable experience. Good luck with your future visits and looking forward to future reports, ideally with the SP's names and descriptions!
I agree entirely on the ridiculous lack of commercial efficacy. During the lowest point of the recession I played golf at one of the top clubs where I'the always paid 120 per person for a round. Very expensive but top club. I got there one day with 3 fellow golfers to be told by the guy in the Pro shop that today the price was 200. I told him we'the leave it and asked why the massive increase. He said times were bad and there were only 4 players on the course so they "had to make it up". When I asked him why not reduce to 75 and market it as they'the get 50 players he looked at me like I'the lost my marbles. "Reduce?" he exclaimed as though I was crazy. I asked him how many players had paid the 200 and he said it was just those 4, none the day before! I tried to explain but he said reducing would devalue the club! Fabulous.
But I don't think this is the rationale at Scandalos. For whatever reason this spring saw an influx of ladies from the Dominican Republic and whilst there are undoubtedly one or two beauties (Mary at Fontana), many are "curvy". Several hit Scandalos. I think they are fairly cliquish and passive aggressive and upset the usual EE throng. So in part the strategy was to get rid of them. And hiking the price would make a quick punt for 220 euros too risky with one of these sharky curvy girls. Now they've told them flat out they cannot work there.
The second part of this strategy I think is wholly misconceived. If you think of the clubs in Madrid (this analysis doesn't work with SWs) you have Diana Plus (100 per hour), Factory Air 150-180 per hour depending on how you negotiate or Flowers about the same but after a 50 euro+ cab to get there and same back unless you take forever on PT. But THEN you have Vive and its crazy 240 euros per hour (was 220 but has increased now).Hi PayForIt,
Another great contribution. Well written. This subject is extremely interesting as although we have a natural tendency to assume Clubs are like normal businesses. They may not be. Historically they have been money laundering opportunities so the real business model or motivation is hard to determine. On the subject of quality looks over quantity of WGs. The WG world of the 9 as I have written here before is unique. If they can entice their 9's from Viva Madrid to work in Malaga, 550,000 people, 6th largest city but low domestic average incomes! The 9's are never quiet, often picky and take the major share of income and punters compared to the 8's and 7's. Clubs are remembered by Punters primarily for the 9's not the mass of 6's and 7's so maybe this is the way forward for the Scandalos ans as AndaluzExpats says managing them is " like herding cats " then maybe it will be a lower cost operation. Business economics and business plans are such a fascinating subject especially for Puti Clubs. Could write forever on this subject!
Heading to Fuengirola in a few days and just wondering what's the current situation with Fuengirola port? Is it reopened? I couldn't find it advertised on the digital version of Sur In English? Also can anyone recommend any WG's in the fuengirola area?
Josh Dales
10-25-18, 18:29
I agree entirely on the ridiculous lack of commercial efficacy. During the lowest point of the recession I played golf at one of the top clubs where I'the always paid 120 per person for a round. Very expensive but top club. I got there one day with 3 fellow golfers to be told by the guy in the Pro shop that today the price was 200. I told him we'the leave it and asked why the massive increase. He said times were bad and there were only 4 players on the course so they "had to make it up". When I asked him why not reduce to 75 and market it as they'the get 50 players he looked at me like I'the lost my marbles. "Reduce?" he exclaimed as though I was crazy. I asked him how many players had paid the 200 and he said it was just those 4, none the day before! I tried to explain but he said reducing would devalue the club! Fabulous.
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So I believe Scandalos management has taken a decision to go out there as the quality club at that end of the coast and that you will get a great line up if you pay those prices. I believe this is risky because I have never seen more than 3 9/10 girls in the club at once. Lots of 8's which is not bad but not a lot of 9's. That will need to change for this to work.
I'm back over in a few weeks and I've decided I'm heading back to Scandalos one night to check out whether this policy has worked. When it was first introduced Melissa told me she had not seen a lack of punters in the club. Unless the quality of the offering has markedly improved (which I doubt) that will no longer be the case. I will not be shy of telling them why I've abandoned the club to go to Estark 92.
One final thing: it is interesting that the clubs that have adopted this quality line up / high cost model rarely have the best facilities! The rooms in Glass Palace Estepona wipe the floor with Scandalos. The girls maintaining their own rooms at Diana Plus provide better facility than the rooms at Vive. That one with the red plastic mattress up against a mirror downstairs in Vive is terrible and I refuse to spend 240 to have an hour in it. The rooms at Miladys are ok but tired. The rooms at Globe are nothing compared to the best rooms at Mainhattan though the LU is weaker in the latter. Maybe these "top" clubs don't believe they need to spend bucks on the facilities as they can simply rely upon the quality of LU.
So. That's my two cents on the Scandalos strategy. I don't believe it will work because the LU quality has never been THAT great, and the location is awful. Miladys get away with it because of its close proximity to Banus and Marbella and the attendant wealth. I really doubt that a club on an industrial estate will carry this off. As its an option I hope it doesn't kill it off. But one thing is for sure. The Spanish never revert to plan be if involves price reduction. So I fear for the future of the club. Will report back when I've seen it with my own eyes.The quote above is shorter than Pay4's post, that is worth reading as a whole.
I have been very, very confused regarding the direction of p4 p, not only in Spain, but on the global scene.
So much that I'm thinking about bringing a woman with me on my global travels. I pay for the expenses, she makes me happy.
For others who crave constant change, this is not an option.
But for those who are tired about all the BS going on nowdays in the p4 p, bringin sand to the desert can actually be a good idea (and I am not talking about a wife of course!
JD.
Andalus Expat
10-25-18, 23:29
... we have a natural tendency to assume Clubs are like normal businesses. They may not be. Historically they have been money laundering opportunities so the real business model or motivation is hard to determine. On the subject of quality looks over quantity of WGs. The WG world of the 9 as I have written here before is unique. If they can entice their 9's from Viva Madrid to work in Malaga, 550,000 people, 6th largest city but low domestic average incomes! The 9's are never quiet, often picky and take the major share of income and punters compared to the 8's and 7's. Clubs are remembered by Punters primarily for the 9's not the mass of 6's and 7's so maybe this is the way forward for the Scandalos...Actually, running readies through the dry cleaner won't make that much difference to the way a business is run. What you'll be looking for is cash flow. The more money flowing through the business, the easier it is to conceal the wads being fed into the stream from the Louis Vuitton hand luggage. It comes out Persil, of course, as declarable, bankable profit. Which is what these clubs are run for. Not for providing randy males with a fulfilling sexual experience. On that score, they really couldn't give a monkey's.
How Scandalos farms its xicas, I haven't a clue. Anyone know? Room rent and a cut from the bar take, like 92? Or are they splitting on a percentage, right down the line?
As for your perceived nines, you need to understand that the club's nines will be different from yours. For a start, the metric is different. The clubs are basically run for the Spanish blokes. The amount you lot bring in is insignificant. Your 9 will not be a Spanish 9. Spanish guys like their women at least a dress size larger. And they're a totally different sort of punter. You blokes, when you come down here, are like kids in a toyshop. Wow! Look at all that totty strutting about without much clothes on! And they actually let you fuck them! It sure ain't Grimsby, is it! Take it from me, if you live here, you can get tired of seeing half naked women. Spanish blokes don't go to clubs with an itch that must be scratched. They can get that done better at an apartment for half the cost. Typically, they go to clubs to socialise and get their egos stroked. (And get away from the fat ugly cow they married). It's not unusual to see them drop a couple hundred euros at the bar. The xica that's latched on to them is working to get that bar bill up and get her rake. So, for the club, the nines are the ones can separate the marks from their wads. Spanish girls are favourites because they're naturally sympatico. Hispanics are a lower rung on the evolutionary scale but they share a common culture. Eastern Europeans have novelty value because they run to a lot of blondes. Brasilenas rate better than a dog but lower than a horse. Whether someone gets taken upstairs and fucked is not high on the list of anyone's priorities.
That said, you extranjeros can be the icing on the cake for the girls because you're easy work. Blow in your ear a couple of times and then lead you by your dick. Half hour and your done and dusted and she can get back to smarting Spaniards. But she's never going to make a living out of you because there aren't enough of you and you'll be gone tomorrow. The Spaniard will be back next Friday.
So whether your nines are good for the club and good for themselves is an interesting question. The goldmine for the club (and herself) may be the hefty one you've never spoken to because she's usually roosting on a stool amongst a gaggle of the locals. They certainly score as decoration, but once they've been fucked, they've been fucked, no?
With the above in mind, I'm not persuaded by PayForIt's theory about overpadded Dominicanas. If clubs don't want particular girls there, they don't need to mess about with pricing policy. They just give them the elbow. More likely just a reflection of the constant churn. Any club will prefer having a bar full of munters than a bar short of girls. The club can still make money out of the girls, even if they're not making it out of the punters. And getting a straight answer out of any working girl about the state of play is like pulling teeth. You're asking them to weaken their bargaining position. I base my assessments on being somewhat in the opposite direction from most of you guys. I've a couple of girls been providing a tantric massage service at the house for the last couple of years and I regularly have putas staying and working here. Just at the moment I could fill the place with them. But I don't fancy having to feed them because they certainly won't be paying their keep. And for Pepe's benefit, it's vaselined cats it's like trying to herd.
A tip of the hat to LikeGirls over in Marbella. Another Brit got a life sentence here, with no remission? Drop me a PM some time and maybe we can compare notes. If you're exploring Pasion, I find keeping a record of phone numbers helps. I log them in the phone's contact file along with name, nationality, age etc. After a time you work out there's apartment phones. Often 3 or more. Get used for girls passing through. And another clue is that the encargadas often write the ads. So they tend to use the same mangled Spanish for all their ads. From there, experience quickly tells you which apartments have the good girls and which have the bait-and-switch rubbish.
How's the scene in Malaga? I know mongering is quite popular in Madrid and Barcelona but is it also true for Malaga?
Like does outcall option is popular here or clubbing is the only way?
Actually, running readies through the dry cleaner won't make that much difference to the way a business is run. What you'll be looking for is cash flow................
How Scandalos farms its xicas, I haven't a clue. Anyone know? Room rent and a cut from the bar take, like 92? Or are they splitting on a percentage, right down the line?
As for your perceived nines, you need to understand that the club's nines will be different from yours. For a start, the metric is different. The clubs are basically run for the Spanish blokes ..................
So whether your nines are good for the club and good for themselves is an interesting question. The goldmine for the club (and herself) may be the hefty one you've never spoken to because she's usually roosting on a stool amongst a gaggle of the locals. They certainly score as decoration, but once they've been fucked, they've been fucked, no?.As far as I can recall it is a cashflow business. Runs totally on cash with ATMs in the premises to make sure no cards are used for electronic payment. Cash for the WGs which the Club takes it's cut from and I can never recall till receipts for drinks purchased at the bar with cash! Getting rid of non-money producing hefty WGs that become an overhead and certainly don't improve the scenery is always going to be an easy decision. Does not matter how marvellous their conversations skills in the are!
Scandalos clientel has always been a mix of Euroland wealthy tourists who have previous knowledge of the Club, conveniently located next to a huge international airport. Moroccan and Spanish hash smuggling gangs want to bang a pretty blonde 23 year old with a dress size 8. No shortage of cash amongst that grouping Can always remember Scandalos being busy and empty of blondes and a Brasilian mulata commented " where are all the blonde Putas. Oh the drug dealers must be in tonight." Some wealthier Spanish locals or from other regions of Spain. The Spanish grouping you mention are more likely bargain basement privee and villa customers wanting to add a bit of coke snorting to their purchase. !
The Dominican Puta theory. Never bought into that one either!
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