Costa del Sol (Southern Coast) / Malaga [Archive] - Page 14

Pepe1976X

08-23-19, 11:09

When you've got the queue at the post office. Was waiting to pick up a delivery when a body I recognized walked in. Mulata, chubby but bouncy. Had to be the girl on Pasion I'd been looking at half an hour earlier. Silver hair with a hint of lilac. Distinctive tattoo on thigh.

http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/thae-chica-griego-profundo-21-anos-535133989.htm

She was with another mulata. Attractive. Long dark hair. (They also advertise as a duo.).

Couldn't resist booking a session with the blonde, this evening. Normally I avoid visiting apartments. Prefer they come to me But with this one being an unknown quantity, decided 50 for a half hour test flight would be the cautious option. And it's only two minutes walk from my own front door. Buzzed in and it's definitely the same girl. Colombiana. Did the paperwork, with extra to secure an option on that round little arse. But after a preparatory BJ she's asking if I want to start there. Well, if she's keen, why not? So she straddles me in reverse and I get the view of her feeding it up her rear. She's bouncing and writhing and generally delivering some outstanding A. So much so, it wasn't long before she got the result she wanted. But she prolonged my orgasm with some long deep strokes, then lay backwards with it buried as deep as goes.

So we had some time over for a bit of a chat. I'd already decided on a second round at chez moi but was unhappy to learn I've only until Saturday before she plans leaving town. Planning on making this a lengthy one, either with her pal or one of mine. Professional but fun puta. Gives a good time without all the faked orgasms, girlfriend experience nonsense. Must get her personal number and find out where she's headed next.Hi Angus nice to hear your luck is in!

Yes Post Offices, Police Stations, Bus Stations, Beauticians Shops and STD clinics are all great locations to bump into a Puta looking to take on a bit of freelance work.

Regards Pep.

Banger 66

08-23-19, 11:39

Andalus Expat

08-24-19, 00:37

If the talent in my Post Office was like that it wouldn't be the stamps I was licking!

They are all about 70-80 years old who go in my local PO!

Planning the next trip to Fuengirola and sorting out the evening entertainment I tried Butterflies, LE Coq and Scandaloo's. I might try a few of the private apartments and some of the Villas near Marbella and Mijas next but is this a bit hit and miss?

Has any of my fellow perv's got any suggestions?

Banger.Like you were told last time, if you want info pay the bucks and get yourself a full membership of the board. Or you're just pissing in the wind.

Andalus Expat

08-24-19, 06:08

Hi Angus nice to hear your luck is in!

Yes Post Offices, Police Stations, Bus Stations, Beauticians Shops and STD clinics are all great locations to bump into a Puta looking to take on a bit of freelance work.

Regards Pep.Surprised you left the Cyber Cafe out of your list, Pepe. Although, seeing some of those Estark girls in daylight can be a bit of a shock.

Andalus Expat

08-24-19, 06:19

Great review TeddyBears glad E92 came to the rescue and my recent visit was not the true level that the club is at presently. Brave man having an unknown that turns out to be be&S and still going ahead. Guess it was always going to be a nightmare. Keep the reports coming.

Regards Pep.TeddyBears seems to have pulled off the so far unheard of. Getting an outcall girl out of her kit without the money being safely tucked away in her handbag. Not only brave but unique.

Pepe1976X

08-24-19, 12:25

If the talent in my Post Office was like that it wouldn't be the stamps I was licking!

They are all about 70-80 years old who go in my local PO!

Planning the next trip to Fuengirola and sorting out the evening entertainment I tried Butterflies, LE Coq and Scandaloo's. I might try a few of the private apartments and some of the Villas near Marbella and Mijas next but is this a bit hit and miss?

Has any of my fellow perv's got any suggestions?

Banger.Sounds like a plan not hit or miss at all. The established Villas normally have something worth 30 mins of anyone's time. Do your initial research before you travel and then you will have a pre-qualified short list to attack when you are. Good luck and looking forward to your reports!

Andalus Expat

08-25-19, 12:05

Sounds like a plan not hit or miss at all. The established Villas normally have something worth 30 mins of anyone's time. Do your initial research before you travel and then you will have a pre-qualified short list to attack when you are. Good luck and looking forward to your reports!Seems like a recipe for disappointment, Pepe. I've lived here long enough to know that simply isn't going to work. For a start, a lot of the villas don't advertise as such. For the obvious reason they don't want all and sundry knowing what they're doing. I didn't when I ran one. They advertise individual girls. It's the phone numbers tell the cognoscenti where they're working. Googling doesn't help, because like much of Google, the search results are as stale as a year old rice pudding. It's still coming up with links to places closed years ago. And browsing past reports on here, on apartment girls, is largely a waste of time. As I've repeatedly said in the past, Pasion links go stale very quickly. Possibly the best go to for puta info is Lumismalaga. But you need not only to read Spanish in the vernacular to use it. But be familiar with the version of Spanish used to rate putas.

Still on the subject, I notice the half page ad, the villa I took you to at Cerros de Aguila was running in Euroweekly, has vanished. Just tried their numbers with no result. But that looks like one of of Banger's list of possibles, I gave him earlier in the year, is crossed off.

This is a subject you actually have to know something about to give advice. Stick to your clubs.

TeddyBears

08-25-19, 13:33

Andalus Expat.

Hahahaha I don't believe getting a few euros back is unique but don't believe it happens to often either!! LOL.

To be honest I don't believe she was to happy about it, but neither was I off course!

I did meet your friend Liz at my hotel, she was very nice and a bit naughty!! She took every last drop like a pro! She is a bit older than the girls I usually search for but I liked her company! Next time I might set up an appointment with Noelia!

RatherBigOne

08-25-19, 23:48

Banger 66

08-26-19, 08:52

Thanks for the advice Andalus Expat just to let you know that the golf holiday is a bit of a front and the real reason I visit Spain / Portugal is for the entertainment.

Even an old pro like yourself had to start somewhere, but like I say thanks for the help it is much appreciated.

Banger.

Andalus Expat

08-26-19, 11:56

Getting a few euros back!

Haha this comment reminds me something I should have added in my report from New Scandalos.

The girl I was with she wanted me to go as time was up but I hadn't busted and was insistent I bust first, but as she was going on about security coming etc I couldn't manage it. I eventually gave her 20 euros just to extend a few minutes.

Anyway after I busted, went to get dressed and my money fell out my pockets, literally 50 cents, 1 euro, 20 cents, etc. All small change, maybe 3-5 euros in total..I'd say you need to look at this from the other direction. The girl's not your girlfriend. She's a professional providing a paid service. You paid for an hour and an hour is what you got. You wouldn't expect any other professional to do unpaid work, just because you'd underestimated what was required. Scandalos girls sell their time in half hour increments. If my suspicions are correct and Scandolos charges the girls room-rent on the work-rooms, that's in half hour increments as well. It'd come as no surprise to learn the room-rent was in the region of 20-25€ a half hour. That's how the house makes a living. Depends on how long your "few minutes" were. There's every likelihood, after you'd left, the girl was downstairs arguing with the desk over the extra half hour room-rent they wanted to charge her. Houses are very strict on this because, if they weren't, they'd have the girls selling extra time to every punter and pocketing the lot. As it was, she did you a favour. What she should have done was got security to sling you out and avoided any grief.

And the same applies to apartment and villa girls on outcalls. You are not the girl's client. You are the house's client. When they arrive, they message the encargada to say they're with the client. They message again when they leave and they're expected back at their workplace in reasonable travel time. They split the trick money with the house on a 50/50 (or maybe a 40/60 basis for the more generous employers) basis. So on a 150€ outcall the girl gets 75€ and the house gets 75€. You want to extend, she messages the house you've extended and she's on paid time. She doesn't message the house and shows up half an hour late, she still owes the house 75€ for the half hour.

That's how it works. It's a business.

RatherBigOne

08-27-19, 18:13

I'd say you need to look at this from the other direction. The girl's not your girlfriend. She's a professional providing a paid service. You paid for an hour and an hour is what you got. You wouldn't expect any other professional to do unpaid work, just because you'd underestimated what was required. Scandalos girls sell their time in half hour increments. If my suspicions are correct and Scandolos charges the girls room-rent on the work-rooms, that's in half hour increments as well. It'd come as no surprise to learn the room-rent was in the region of 20-25 a half hour. That's how the house makes a living. Depends on how long your "few minutes" were. There's every likelihood, after you'd left, the girl was downstairs arguing with the desk over the extra half hour room-rent they wanted to charge her. Houses are very strict on this because, if they weren't, they'd have the girls selling extra time to every punter and pocketing the lot. As it was, she did you a favour. What she should have done was got security to sling you out and avoided any grief.

And the same applies to apartment and villa girls on outcalls. You are not the girl's client. You are the house's client. When they arrive, they message the encargada to say they're with the client. They message again when they leave and they're expected back at their workplace in reasonable travel time. They split the trick money with the house on a 50/50 (or maybe a 40/60 basis for the more generous employers) basis. So on a 150 outcall the girl gets 75 and the house gets 75..Interesting heads up and perspective, thanks for that. So she would have to pay for a whole other half hour, understandable then why she would get annoyed and demand quite a sum just to bust. However, we did agree a fee and I paid her.

Trying to 'steal' my pittance of change from the floor not so classy or cool though (though if what you are saying is right maybe that money not even going to herself).

I do now make a point of stating and looking at time on entry, checking time at intervals, asking how long left etc so I know exactly what's going on and when I need to bust. And yeh best check for time extension costs beforehand in future also I guess etc. Cheers.

Happy punting!

ShooBree

08-27-19, 23:30

Visited Estark and Scandalo last week, Scandalo still has among the lowest drink prices of all the puticlubs that I've been to. 10€ for a Red bull&vodka instead of 13€ in Estark. That doesn't make up for the fact that at Scandalo all the putas wanted 110€ for 30 minutes. Of the seven rounds that I've done this summer in Scandalo I only received CBJ: s. I don't really care, but that's ridiculous, on the other hand I don't ask for it without condom.

Good line up, many new faces, I would guess that the majority of the women are from Brazil. I would say that my subjective opinion is that almost all the women are between 6. 5-7. 5 on a scale of 10. So nothing impressive, nothing that's really worth 110€/30 minutes and nothing memorable. With that said, if I had a Scandalo in my city I would be there at least 4-5 times a month.

I really like the shishas though, I can't remember if they have them in Vive in Madrid? I might return for the shishas.

Went to Estark 92 on Saturday night, the lay out of the club sucks, but I can't really disagree with anyone claiming E92 to be better value for the money. One interesting thing was that the club seemed empty around 1 am, empty because many of WG: s were upstairs working. That's a good sign for them I guess.

MagicSheep74

08-28-19, 19:14

Dessie. Brazil - 21 Years. Hotel PYR incall.

Absolutely Stunning. She is Kim Kardashian with a better body. If she is not your type, you already dead - 200 euro's - 1 hour, every service offered.

www.slumi.com/escorts/malaga/marbella/nueva-brasileña-de-21-años-con-sex-appeal-why-completisima-ID-jsr8 n.

Repeat. Mmmm, I love her, so yeah.

9/10.

Camila. Portugal - 21 Years. Marbella Incall.

A lovely girl with a pretty face and amazing body. Every service offered - 70 Euro's - 30 minutes.

8/10 WIR. I am about to.

www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/chica-ideal-para-un-buen-polvazo-535197204.htm

On Friday. Milady Palace, report will follow.

Peace.

CoastGuy62

08-28-19, 22:21

Haven't had any luck at my visits at Estark lately so had to check Estark at Thursday as adwised in the forum 11:30 if it was better. Nope, all goodies must have been upstairs and nothing worth to put any money on.

Saturday Marbella Centre and a Russian girl named Julia from pasion, two girls with same name and different numbers to same manager who sent pics on witch girl that was interested. Both of them real cuties and think will try both next time on the coast.

Back to Estark at 02:00 for a beer and to check the lineup, same as Thursday and nothing special.

Sunday back to Marbella for a second round with the russian cutie and then to Estark at 12:00, and WOW, now it was at least 8 girls that was worth the money. Big different compared to earlier wisits this week, I Guess you guys was at the club Thursday to Saturday and kept the god ones busy in their rooms.

As said before but we all have different taste but for me I have had the best girls between 17:30 to 21:30 since I started being at Estark in November.

MagicSheep74

08-31-19, 03:26

Slipped on banana skin lying at the food of my steps, and my penis accidentally landed straight into a working girls chops.

Camila - 25 Years. Incall. Dama De Noche. Marbella - 150 euro for one hour. Paraguay.

Its my lucky day, real photo's again and yet again the girl was hot as hell. Beautiful face, long, lean and adorable body. Could not believe she was from Paraguay, but showed me her passport.

She kissed lightly and went through the motions. I would not rate her services to highly. She was quite placid, so for those looking for someone very wild, she is not for you. But for optics alone, she is a beautiful girl with a nice personality.

https://www.slumi.com/escorts/malaga...clase-id-fvyhz

On a side note. Many of these apartments I am visiting have no functioning air conditioning in the bedroom area. I am quite literally sweating like a blind lesbian in a fish market 20 minutes into the session. Saying that - 10 pints, 400 MG Kamagra and 1 kg of Bolivian Marching Power also doesn't help.

I think the previous link I sent for. Dessie Porto was broken, here is it again if you want to fuck a Kim Kardashian lookalike.

https://www.slumi.com/escorts/malaga.../nueva-brasileña-de-21-años-con-sex-appeal-why-completisima-ID-jsr8 and.

Pepe1976X

09-03-19, 08:41

Slipped on banana skin lying at the food of my steps, and my penis accidentally landed straight into a working girls chops.MagicSheep you want to be careful of these Banana Skins! They can get you in all sorts of trouble. Nice to hear you are active and having fun! Thanks for the report and links.

Bunkster33

09-05-19, 11:08

Hello!

Staying in Malaga for 1-2 days, and need advice on brothels or puticlubs. At what time of day is it best to visit? Price range? The more info, the better.

Thanks a million!

-Bunkster.

Andalus Expat

09-05-19, 17:06

Hello!

Staying in Malaga for 1-2 days, and need advice on brothels or puticlubs. At what time of day is it best to visit? Price range? The more info, the better.

Thanks a million!

-Bunkster.Try reading previous posts on this board in conjunction with the advertising hoardings on the road from the airport.

MagicSheep74

09-06-19, 16:12

Thursday 5th September - 12 Midnight.

Very surprised to see loads of girls in attendance. There must have been around 40 to 50 girls of various shapes and sizes.

Fabienne. Brazil - 32 Years. Pretty face and Firm Body. Great to talk to at the bar, fluent english. Claimed her German husband kicked her out 3 months ago.

30 minutes - 75 Euro.

Lots and Kissing and caressing, a couple of positions, then finished off with a delightful CIM without asking.

Rating. Looks 7/10.

Personality / Service - 10/10.

WIR. No, too many other options.

Micheli. Romanian, 25 Years. Beautiful face and Body claiming she had only been there 3 days. Brought her a 20 euro drink to try and melt the iceberg. She spoke english fluently and was softly spoken.

Compared to the other girls, she was very elegantly dressed.

30 minutes - 75 Euro.

DFK, BBBJ, and some hard doggy was enough for me.

Rating. Looks 9/10.

Personality - 8/10.

WIR. Yes.

On a side note, I saw at least 5 or 6 other girls I would of sessioned. So, in-turn there is no need for me to drive all the way to Scandalo at the moment.

Out of interest. A south american who was reasonably attractive approached me as I was about to leave, I told her I had mo money left, she replied ' how much you got? I pulled out a 50 euro note, which she replied, that fine lets go upstairs. That would never happen in a million years in any other clubs.

ShooBree

09-06-19, 23:41

Hello!

Staying in Malaga for 1-2 days, and need advice on brothels or puticlubs. At what time of day is it best to visit? Price range? The more info, the better.

Thanks a million!

-Bunkster.I can recommend Sala Gold in Malaga Centro. Calle Luis de Velazquez 5.

TallDarkUsa

09-08-19, 03:18

TeddyBears

09-08-19, 22:12

Don't want to sound like a newbie but where is estate 92 located. I am Algeciras and usually stay in this area. Also what is the price range and best times to go?

Side note. Will be on Rodin from September to April!Estark92 is located in Fuengirola. More exact location is right under Carvajal train station.

1 hour is €150 I normally go nighttime but some guys says it's OK earlier in the evening as well.

Bunkster33

09-09-19, 23:28

I can recommend Sala Gold in Malaga Centro. Calle Luis de Velazquez 5.Thank's for the suggestion Shoobree! Will do some research around Sala Gold.

Also, I've been looking for girls to bring to my hotel. Any recommendations on Slumi or Nuevoloquo?

Thank's again!

ShooBree

09-10-19, 00:57

Thank's for the suggestion Shoobree! Will do some research around Sala Gold.

Also, I've been looking for girls to bring to my hotel. Any recommendations on Slumi or Nuevoloquo?

Thank's again!I can recommend.

https://www.slumi.com/escorts/malaga/capital/preciosa-y-escultural-20-a%C3%B1os-nueva-en-tu-ciudad-id-cn4q5

https://www.slumi.com/escorts/malaga/capital/escort-espa%C3%B1ola-disponible-en-la-ciudad-malaga-centro-historico-escort-de-lujo-id-unccq

https://www.slumi.com/escorts/malaga/torremolinos/novedad-ardiente-latina-sensual-y-muy-complaciente-id-ncwr4

https://www.slumi.com/escorts/malaga/marbella/soy-una-morena-super-cachonda-por-primera-vez-en-marbella-id-92cek

Redman28

09-10-19, 07:33

Hi,

My trip is now imminent, thanks for the info so far but having read the comments over the last few pages, it is clear that if I want to go early in the evening (say, 8:00) then the clubs are not the place to go.

So how about the girls on Slumi? There are some good lookers in estepona. Are they worth a try or is it all bait and switch?

Thanks.

Andalus Expat

09-10-19, 11:06

I can recommend Sala Gold in Malaga Centro. Calle Luis de Velazquez 5.Are you sure about that, ShooBree? I had an an apartment off Carrerteria, which can't be more than 200 m away and used to walk past it most every night. Think I went in there once, in the futile search for a decent Malaga club. (not puti club. There are other entertainments) Far as I'm aware it's just another disco. Steep prices, lousy music. They have quite an aggressive door policy, so you see a lot of people queuing outside. I'd say couples as much as anything. No doubt there'll be W / G's in there. There will be in any disco. But a puti club?

And out of interest, does anyone know of a decent club in Malaga? The ones I've been in wouldn't have been out of place in Clacton. It's certainly not Barcelona, let alone Paris or London. Come to think of it, is there a decent club along the entire coast? Or do we just not get the sort of people here would produce one?

Andalus Expat

09-10-19, 21:26

So how about the girls on Slumi? There are some good lookers in estepona. Are they worth a try or is it all bait and switch?.The girls on Slumi are, broadly speaking, the same girls as on Pasion. Or Mileroticos. Sometimes different fotos. Some girls advertise on one, two or three. So any post about a Pasion girl, applies to the other two.

Redman28

09-12-19, 07:27

Given that I wanted to do this around 8:00 I decided to chance Vivian's Villa in the hills above Estepona. Vivianarelax. Es.

The villa is about 2 km up the hill above the Laguna Village exit of the A7/ N340. The only sign is that has Vivians down one of the gate posts.

I had absolutely no idea what to expect as I had only ever been to clubs before. I rand the bell on the gate and was buzzed in. One of the girls showed my to a living room with sofas and told me to wait there. Then there was the parade that I have only read about here. The website currently shows 6 girls but only 4 were present at that time. They came in one by one and they were all pretty good but there was one, Katy, that took my eye. An older woman came in, introduced herself as Mama and asked me which one I wanted. The cost was €50 for 30 minutes. Mama gave me beer and told me to wait in the bedroom for Katy.

Katy came in, washed all my relevant parts and set about me! Plenty of DFK, BBBJ, sex in 3 positions and finishing with more BBBJ and CIM.

All in all it was a good experience but it felt a bit rushed. I'the go again but try to slow it down a little.

Redman28

09-14-19, 01:45

So, turns out now that my 2 golf mates have arrived, we all wanted some fun.

La Fontana beckoned and a great time was had by all. Probably 30 girls, all above average apart from a couple of larger ladies! We went in at 11:30 and left at 2:00 bereft of jizz and money. They are a bit pushy, and want you to pay more to extend but still a great night. €100 for 30 minutes although I did €200 for 2 girls. Maybe not the fantasy I had in mind but great fun.

So tomorrow night we are off to Puerto Banus and want to end the evening in a place like la Fontana rather than Pinks lap dancing club. Is the only option Miladys Palace or is there anywhere else?

RayRay4

09-14-19, 04:40

Thank you for the recommendations. I really like Camila and Sara. They are kind of my type. Which one would you recommend better?

MagicSheep74

09-14-19, 12:23

So, turns out now that my 2 golf mates have arrived, we all wanted some fun.

La Fontana beckoned and a great time was had by all. Probably 30 girls, all above average apart from a couple of larger ladies! We went in at 11:30 and left at 2:00 bereft of jizz and money. They are a bit pushy, and want you to pay more to extend but still a great night. 100 for 30 minutes although I did 200 for 2 girls. Maybe not the fantasy I had in mind but great fun.

So tomorrow night we are off to Puerto Banus and want to end the evening in a place like la Fontana rather than Pinks lap dancing club. Is the only option Miladys Palace or is there anywhere else?Hello mate,

https://mansionbabylonmarbella.com/ is great at the moment, 15 girls, at least 7 worth doing. , avoid Glass Palace and Milady.

Pepe1976X

09-15-19, 11:18

Redman28

09-15-19, 23:11

Hi Redman,

Glad to hear you are having fun. Viviana's sounds like it was good value. Fontanas is pretty good as Puti Clubs and for sure the Putas are proactive!

Good luck in Puerto Banus be careful of pick pockets and getting set up in the Navy Bar!Thanks Pepe. We decided a quieter night was called for after 3 late nights had taken their toll. PB was OK, Pinks lap dancing club was dead but we still managed to not get home before 3 am!

Good warning on pickpockets and Navy Bar, we have fallen victim to both those in the past!

Jean You

09-15-19, 23:55

Try La Habana. Lots of nice girls.

So, turns out now that my 2 golf mates have arrived, we all wanted some fun.

La Fontana beckoned and a great time was had by all. Probably 30 girls, all above average apart from a couple of larger ladies! We went in at 11:30 and left at 2:00 bereft of jizz and money. They are a bit pushy, and want you to pay more to extend but still a great night. 100 for 30 minutes although I did 200 for 2 girls. Maybe not the fantasy I had in mind but great fun.

So tomorrow night we are off to Puerto Banus and want to end the evening in a place like la Fontana rather than Pinks lap dancing club. Is the only option Miladys Palace or is there anywhere else?

PayForIt

09-17-19, 00:14

Hello mate,

https://mansionbabylonmarbella.com/ is great at the moment, 15 girls, at least 7 worth doing. , avoid Glass Palace and Milady.Not been here before and did not know it existed. I've seen several of your reports and recommendations and know they can be relied upon as being entirely accurate. So this caught my eye.

Pictures look great. Is this a daytime venue or still more of an evening event? Some of the casas in the past (Casa Mama and Villa Walla near Marbella club) were really only in swing in the nightime. Shame as one thing I really like about FKK Sharks and Oase (near Frankfurt) is the ability to go sunbathe surrounded by very pretty girls, get a beer and pick. Can you do that here during daytime? Then have a room for an hour, go back outside and then go again when recovered after a lie in the sun? If yes, I'll be headed here soon!

The girls on the website look decent. Can you let us know prices per hour and answers to the above please?

How would you rate the line up v say Estark 92?

Andalus Expat

09-17-19, 06:40

Not been here before and did not know it existed. I've seen several of your reports and recommendations and know they can be relied upon as being entirely accurate. So this caught my eye.

Pictures look great. Is this a daytime venue or still more of an evening event? Some of the casas in the past (Casa Mama and Villa Walla near Marbella club) were really only in swing in the nightime. Shame as one thing I really like about FKK Sharks and Oase (near Frankfurt) is the ability to go sunbathe surrounded by very pretty girls, get a beer and pick. Can you do that here during daytime? Then have a room for an hour, go back outside and then go again when recovered after a lie in the sun? If yes, I'll be headed here soon!

The girls on the website look decent. Can you let us know prices per hour and answers to the above please?

How would you rate the line up v say Estark 92?Easiest way to find out, PayForIt, is to ring the house. That's what I always do. They'll usually have someone speaks English, if you need it. They're advertising 24 H and they have the pool so I'd be surprised if they can't cater to your wishes. The other villas I visit, would. But do remember this is a villa, not the Estark meatrack. They'll expect you to buy a drink or two, past the free one and they may not offer half hour quickies. Some villas don't. You're moving a step up from puti clubs. Villas sell an experience, not a quick fumble.

And it would appear the reported demise of Villafloresfresca at Cerros de Aguila's was premature. Advertising in the newspaper's running and the phone's being answered again. ¿Who knows?

I seem to have found myself another playmate. A fine claret rather than the Beaujolais nouveau. Pretty girls in their twenties can get tedious, very quickly. Mostly what they're selling is pretty girl. This one's Brazilian and well into her forties. But the body's superb. And she's the consummate puta and party girl. Experienced and ready to please in every way you can imagine. And excellent company. Came round Saturday evening and my live-in and my Paraguayan friend took to her immediately. Had to endure an evening of them swapping work experiences in gales of laughter. Several bottles behind us, the Paraguayan was getting more than frisky, so took them both to bed. And very girl-to-girl affectionate she is. Hardly got a look-in for the first hour. She finally left, dawn approaching, with a smile on her face. Fernanda's the name. Works occasional nights. Outcalls only, 120€/ H all services included, but I might be able to arrange something here if you can't host.

Banger 66

09-17-19, 09:12

Try La Habana. Lots of nice girls.Hi Jean You,

Going to visit the CDS next month and I have recently seen your advice regarding La Habana, I have been unable to find a website for this place and wondered where it was?

I am also looking to go to mansion Babylon to try out some of their girls, if you could advise it would be much appreciated!

Banger.

Andalus Expat

09-17-19, 20:07

Going to visit the CDS next month and I have recently seen your advice regarding La Habana, I have been unable to find a website for this place and wondered where it was?La Habana's a bar, restaurant, disco In Purto Banus. To your far left if you're admiring the boats. No doubt, like anywhere in PB, you may find the odd puta in there. But civilian territory and that's about it.

A click on Google would have produced much the same information. You should try it some time.

PayForIt

09-17-19, 23:12

Easiest way to find out, PayForIt, is to ring the house. That's what I always do. They'll usually have someone speaks English, if you need it. They're advertising 24 H and they have the pool so I'd be surprised if they can't cater to your wishes. The other villas I visit, would. But do remember this is a villa, not the Estark meatrack. They'll expect you to buy a drink or two, past the free one and they may not offer half hour quickies. Some villas don't. You're moving a step up from puti clubs. Villas sell an experience, not a quick fumble.

Ah thanks. But the secret is in my Nickname! I don't mind paying for it. I am happy to take the step up. When I visit an FKK for the day I arrive mainly around 4 pm. I expect to leave at 1 am. I also expect to spend something between 700-800 euros which includes entrance fee (at that time mainly 50-60 euros) and a professional massage for an hour 60. So that leaves over 600 for mongering. If I can go to this villa in the afternoon and not get hounded constantly I'll take it. Quite happy to buy a few drinks, and buy the girls drinks (I do in E92 and even in Scandalos at 50 e per drink! But I want the experience of relax / fuck / naked girls around the pool / fuck more / relax etc. Guess I have to try to find out. Probably won't get to it this week. I'm hoping to get to Fontana and Estark on Friday and Saturday.

Andalus Expat

09-18-19, 00:19

Ah thanks. But the secret is in my Nickname! I don't mind paying for it. I am happy to take the step up. When I visit an FKK for the day I arrive mainly around 4 pm. I expect to leave at 1 am. I also expect to spend something between 700-800 euros which includes entrance fee (at that time mainly 50-60 euros) and a professional massage for an hour 60. So that leaves over 600 for mongering. If I can go to this villa in the afternoon and not get hounded constantly I'll take it. Quite happy to buy a few drinks, and buy the girls drinks (I do in E92 and even in Scandalos at 50 e per drink! But I want the experience of relax / fuck / naked girls around the pool / fuck more / relax etc. Guess I have to try to find out. Probably won't get to it this week. I'm hoping to get to Fontana and Estark on Friday and Saturday.I doubt you'll get the FKK experience anywhere in Europe, apart from Germany. (Or where the clientele is German. Czech are? Poland? Dunno) The clue's in what the initials stand for. It's a German culture thing. The rest of Europe doesn't find overweight, naked, middle-aged Germans particularly alluring. I've no doubt you can get your parada by the pool. But I wouldn't expect you'll have all the house xicas frolicking around you. Who'd be paying them? You're after something just doesn't go on down here, apart from at private parties. There's no demand.

Hustling? Well, the house wants to relieve you of the burden of your money. But villas aren't puti clubs. Which is why I'd go to villas, not puti clubs. Buy a girl a drink and she'll keep you company. You want two, buy two girls drinks. That's what they're there for. Villas are used to having clients in the house for several hours. The incentives are different. They want you to have a good time and return. Puti clubs don't give a toss. Nor do the girls. There's always another mug along.

When I went villa-ing I reckoned on dropping 3-400 in a night. Couple drinks. Couple drinks for girls. Hour or two upstairs. These days I've turned it around. Good bunch of girls a phone call away. Why should I pay for drinks? But I did help a girlfriend run a villa for a while. So I know how they work. (And that it's damned hard work running a villa).

MagicSheep74

09-18-19, 18:18

Not been here before and did not know it existed. I've seen several of your reports and recommendations and know they can be relied upon as being entirely accurate. So this caught my eye.

Pictures look great. Is this a daytime venue or still more of an evening event? Some of the casas in the past (Casa Mama and Villa Walla near Marbella club) were really only in swing in the nightime. Shame as one thing I really like about FKK Sharks and Oase (near Frankfurt) is the ability to go sunbathe surrounded by very pretty girls, get a beer and pick. Can you do that here during daytime? Then have a room for an hour, go back outside and then go again when recovered after a lie in the sun? If yes, I'll be headed here soon!

The girls on the website look decent. Can you let us know prices per hour and answers to the above please?

How would you rate the line up v say Estark 92?Hello PFI,

Of course, I think the place opened about 4 months ago. I got a flyer on my car and went up one night for a look. Presented with 8 girls, 7 very average, 1 really nice. If I lived next to Estark 92, then I would favour it, but this villa is 5 minutes from my house, so naturally its very convenient. They are very different sets up, and it's doesn't resemble an FKK.

Its a one floor, must be a 10 bedroom Spanish style villa with an outdoor swimming pool. As you arrive at the entrance there is the customary big black guy doormen, no payment needed.

After you've walked there is a swimming pool on your right and a seated area with a bar with barmaid. When I arrived at 9 pm, and the next day at 3 pm they were no girls at the seated area. As soon as approached the bar a lady appeared and said girls will come out immediately. I think they have about 7 on there website, and their pictures are real. On this night around one week ago, I think a Thursday she said there were 15. The girls that came out were almost all Latin, mainly Colombian, Venezuelan, and one EE. The done their parade, introduced themselves and all took seats, then just had a drink and went about the business. What surprised me was that about 5 of them were really hot. I have not been faced with this level of hotness in a costa del sol villa as of yet. I was shown around and the rooms are really nice etc. Its expensive though, 120 for 30 minutes, 200 an hour. While I sat there sipping my beer, on 2 occasions girls were asked if they wanted to go to a party in Puerto Banus as customers had requested for 2 girls, they then disappeared with the villa driver. Both the girls I had that evening were very young slim Colombians who claimed they had just arrived. They are not on the website, but the service level in the room was very good. That night I also seen a really beautiful young Venezuelan girl, so I went back the following day at 4 pm to give her the old pork sword. She claimed she lived in Barcelona and was down in Marbella for a couple of weeks.

Definitely don't expect girls lounging around the pools having fun and playing games, as Andaluz correctly says, if you want activity, you pay for it. The young generation these days just want stare vacantly into their telephones to pass the time. It's definitely a good idea to connect to them via what'app, ask them ' how many and pictures of the girls before even going. If you're down that way, you should pop in and check it out. I honestly can't remember the names of the girls I fornicated with, but its very transient in these places anyway. If you like young, hard body chics with an ass like a 10 years sheep, you could be in luck.

Cheers.

PayForIt

09-19-19, 00:54

this villa is 5 minutes from my house, so naturally its very convenient. If you like young, hard body chics with an ass like a 10 years sheep, you could be in luck.

Cheers.A few comments MS - 1. Thanks for the reply and detail on prices and quality. Much appreciated. (2) We must be neighbours! I'm about 10 minutes away from this on the beachfront. We must hook up sometime! (3) It must be good as you are in walking distance to Glass Palace. A little further for me and that is also 200/ hour. (4) noted re the pool. (5) love the description of asses like 10 years sheep. Never tried one but hey there's a first time for everything! Not sure I'll get there this trip but really appreciate the info.

Finally. Was in San Pedro today. Not mongering. And saw a sign for the new Playboy club. Anyone tried it?

Cheers again.

PFI.

Banger 66

09-19-19, 10:12

Andalus Expat

09-19-19, 20:25

Hi Andalus Expat,

Is it true the Fuengirola Port has re-opened? After looking at the ads in your local paper I see it is back in operation. I am trying to picture where it is in relation to the London Bar as I stay in hotel Las Palmeras and that is where I am going on my next trip.

I understand it is only seconds from where the London Bar is?

Me and a couple of my mid 50's mates are looking at what is on offer and somewhere where there is no young punters who are smashed out of their heads and causing problems. I appreciated the Butterflies recommendation this year it was my sort of place.

Yes I do go on the trip as a golfing holiday but the real reason is because I appreciate a nice bit of pussy!
Banger.You could try ringing it. I imagine that's why Tony's put the number in the advert.

And, as I've said to you before, if you cough up for the full membership of this site you can use the PM system to receive phone numbers and details of recommended girls currently available. Even get contact numbers of other members Without it, you're pissing in the wind. It's not as if it's a lot of money.

Banger 66

09-20-19, 10:14

You could try ringing it. I imagine that's why Tony's put the number in the advert.

And, as I've said to you before, if you cough up for the full membership of this site you can use the PM system to receive phone numbers and details of recommended girls currently available. Even get contact numbers of other members Without it, you're pissing in the wind. It's not as if it's a lot of money.I forgot to tell you I have just signed up for 2 years membership after your initial advice. I will look in to my options for my next visit.

Cheers,

Banger.

Bunkster33

09-20-19, 11:41

Hi guys!

I'm arriving tomorrow to Málaga and staying a few days. I've asked earlier about suggestions, and scrolled threw the pages for info. For that I am truly thankful for the response and the earlier reports.

My plan is to check out prospects from Slumi / Nuevoloquo daytime, and Estark92 or Velasquez24 evening / night time. Fell free to comment or suggest otherwise.

But my curiosity has risen about villas. If I'm not mistaken, these are houses where you can chill out by the pool, have a drink or two and have sessions with the available girls?

Please fill me in? Would love to have a day sunbathing and / or swimming in the pool in-between the mongering.

Thanks's a million! And I promise to write lots of reports after my experiences.

Bunkster!

P. S: I'm renting a car, so I can travel to the fun. Oh! And my budget is mid-ranged and my preference are nicely curved girls.

PayForIt

09-22-19, 11:41

2 nights out of three completed as follows:

Friday: Fontana. About 2 years ago this was my favourite club. It's not now. Arrived midnight. Club half empty with no talent other than Julia and Sandra. Both arrived this very day. As was proven when I got to their room and their cases lie on the floor still packed with clothes ready to settle in. Both blonde. Sandra a bit on the large side for me and a little pushy. Julia is probably 30 but very attractive. Looks 8/10 Body 7/10 Service 10/10. Planned on threesome but ended up with Julia for 90 minutes. Interestingly we did a deal as is possible in E92 but not possible in Scandalos where the club fixes the fee. Here Julia tells me that one hour is 200 (normal), so two hours 300 but we agree on 230 for 90 minutes.

Other options in the club were truly very poor IMHO. Nothing above 7/10 looks for me. Had I not met Julia I think I would have left without a session and braved E95. Happily not needed.

Earlier in the day, did Happy Relax in Puerto Banus. Have never seen so many girls in the LU. Must have been 10. Several stunners. Selected Bolivian Estrella. Great body and service. FS is available here and at Nikkys for an extra 50.

Saturday. Jaded after not getting to bed until after 3 pm and being up at 7 am, I considered dipping out of E92 but as I not due back now on CDS for at least 4 months decided I had to do it.

Fabulous start in the casino which paved the way for a great night. My favourite (Julia. Another one!) Ro, was in. Black mini skirt. Hot as hell. Looks 9/10 Body 10/10, service 9/10 (won't do BBBJ).

So I normally session with her and one other. Her best friend blonde Ina was in and looking good. We've had several rooms with her. Also looking terrific was dark haired Daniella. Beautiful face and eyes. But this time plumped for Biana. Dark Ro. Thin. Lovely girl, not quite as pretty as julia but also excellent in the room. Did my usual 250 for each girl for 2 hours and we had a fabulous time. Extending by 30 minutes for 50 each which was a great deal.

So shattered that the planned trip to Scandalos tonight is very much in jeopardy. But we shall see.

Tony FuengPort

09-22-19, 12:38

Finally I can confirm the opening date of the original Fuengirola Port, situated less than thirty seconds walk from the London Pub. Thursday 26 of September, 11 am to 8 pm, Monday to Friday. Look forward to seeing all our old friends. All information and numbers in the Euro Weekly. All the Best Tony.

Tony FuengPort

09-22-19, 12:45

Finally I can confirm the opening date of the original Fuengirola Port run by Tony, situated less than thirty seconds walk from the London Pub. Thursday 26 of September, 11 am to 8 pm, Monday to Friday. Look forward to seeing all our old friends. All information and numbers ln the Euro Weekly. All the Best Tony.

TomWest

09-22-19, 13:30

Hello mongers,

Can someone help with the registration question please.

- En que mes cae típicamente la feria de nuestra tierra?

I've tried all the months of the year in Spanish, nightmare!

https://lumismalaga.com/ucp.php?mode=register

Thank you!

MagicSheep74

09-22-19, 16:49

Questner

09-23-19, 03:11

Hello mongers,

Can someone help with the registration question please.

- En que mes cae tpicamente la feria de nuestra tierra?

I've tried all the months of the year in Spanish, nightmare!

https://lumismalaga.com/ucp.php?mode=register

Thank you!Agosto.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feria_de_Agosto

PayForIt

09-23-19, 14:07

So final night of the trip and decided to hit Scandalo after all. As this was my last night of the trip I decided I couldn't waste it.

Arrived 11 pm (I've found turning up any earlier means the club is dead or only the less attractive girls out to catch the early worms are available).

Well. At 11 pm it was still pretty much dead.

I'll cut to the chase and say this: I didn't have any sessions with any girls despite having booked into Nostrum to facilitate the excursion. Truth is that there is a very clear division now. E92 has predominantly EE girls. Many are slim with good bodies. Scandalos is now 99% Columbia's / Brazilian / S American. And if you are a lover of the very wide, very big asses they are "blessed" with, then you are going to love Scandalos and hate E92. There are one or two overweight girls in E92 but not that many. In contrast there are very few slim girls in Scandalos. There are a lot of very curvy girls and then even those with slim bodies have the South American booty e. G. Kardashian look. It's just not for me. I chose my sparing partners on the following basis: 1st. She must be facially attractive to me. Rarely do we get 10's, or even 9's (Julia in E92 is a definite 9/10_ 2nd she must have a great attitude even before we hit the room. 3rd she must have a good body / figure. I can alternate between criteria 2 and 3. I've happily spend a short time in the room (not usual for me) with a pretty girl, with an awesome body but a mediocre attitude. Not my preference but if we don't talk too much it's ok. But at 200/ hour in Scandalos I'm afraid I need all three. Not one of the 32 girls I counted present hit all three. Indeed there was only one enormously tall blonde girl dressed like a US NFL cheerleader who had an 8/10 face and one Latina also very pretty. Both had enormous booty. I tried. Honestly I did. I'the driven 78 kms to get here, booked a hotel. But the options were really poor unless you like that big booty.

In contrast there are at least 10 girls now at E92 who hit my 3 criteria. On top of which, I never get refused 250/2 hours. Think of just that commercially - 200/ hour in Scandalo. Cheapest 2 hours will be at least 350. Drink for a girl in E92 is €20. Same in Scandalos now a whopping €50.

So for the Kardashian / big booty lovers out there with plenty of cash. Head to Scandalos and you will not be disappointed.

For those of you who have my preferences for pretty faces, great bodies, and great value for you bucks. Head to E92.

That's it for me on the CDS for 2019 folks! Back in Feb.

Pepe1976X

09-24-19, 09:24

Goldenera

09-26-19, 23:40

Dearest members, my greetings to you all.

This is long overdue, not quite sure why I never got around to this before now, but, better late then never. Anyhow, I'll get straight to business. Went to E92 yesterday, or, technically the day before yesterday, I. E. Wednesday. Came in just before midnight. Decent ambience, not very good, not terrible, maybe 10-15 girls, and I'd say around the same number of guys. From my first glances it didn't seem like EEs dominated the scene, rather the contrary, there were quite a few Latinas. Saw a few that have been around for years, some rather thick and unappealing females, but also a couple of new girls that looked great. From afar. Getting close they turned out to be quite a bit older than I've guessed from the other side of the room. Was quickly approached by a small girl, as in quite short, fairly slim, natural boobs, dark-haired. Wore a white corset and a skirt (could've been shorts), black YSL handbag / clutch. Pretty face / eyes, body average, attitude seemingly OK. And she flirted quite heavily, rubbed her knees and thighs against me, pouting her lips, telling me about what we could do in her room. Kind of turned me on actually, so after a few minutes I asked her how much for 30 min, I thought I could just use her to get things started, to which she quoted 100 euros. I raised an eyebrow and told her it used to be 75, and she replied that the management had changed and now it was a 100. Total BS. I mean, idk and idc about management, but it's not like 30 minutes at E92 is raised to a hundred over night. That turned me off completely. I hate to get hustled. Ofc, this whole set up is a hustle, but I hate being lied to like that. Tried to shake her politely, I can't seem to be direct / rude even to pros, took a while, but shook her in the end. Saw a very hot black haired girl with great ass, short / low black tight dress, pouty lips, was grooving a little to the music by herself. Made eye contact, but she didn't respond. Seemed a bit disinterested, didn't approach any clients. Two of the old timers I'd seen years ago came over, but to these tired girls I just shook my head and smiled friendly. Oh; about the lying girl. Forgot her name, said she was 27, could be true, and that she was Colombian. Got another drink, and a new girl came over, never seen her before, round bouncy ass, but kind of small as well, in a good way, not the classic curvy Latina ass, decent natural breasts, average+ face, I'd score her maybe 7 on looks, but there was something about her. She actually made a normal conversation, not selling her merchandise, and walked away quite quickly when I told her I wanted to relax a little and take in the scene. Walking around I soon regretted not closing with her, tried to find her, only to see her walking out to smoke with a guy, so I though, oh well, maybe I'll try the disinterested hottie. After a few minutes the 7 came back in, so I though, to hell with it, and just went over and said, let's go. Over the music she obviously misunderstood, and started looking in her purse for a cigarette for me, I said no, no, I want to go up with you, and she politely said no thanks, "I just had a smoke", LOL, so I laughed and pointed up, then on her and me, and up again, she giggled, got up, took my hand and went to the sheets booth by the elevators. She said her name was Juliana, 27, Colombian. Coincidence or not, at least this one wasn't lying to me. Stayed at fourth floor, next door to her sister. Session good, kissing on the lips, sucked my nipples, playfully bit me a little, CBJ, she gave a little strip / lap dance, more CBJ, I wasn't all fire for some reason, and then she took my hand and put it on / in her pussy (I'm usually quite careful with what I do, as some girls have their rules; I prefer to find out slowly what's OK and not, instead of getting told off), and she was completely wet. Either she was actually wet / turned on, or she had discretely without me noticing lubed herself up a little before getting down on me, either way; option 1) major turn on, option 2) still a turn on. She's trying to do a good job / make me happy. That helped, and soon she was in reverse cowgirl, flipped her around to pound that great ass from behind, considered poking her butt to see if that was OK too, but before I got around to it she got on her back, rubbing her clit while quite violently fucking me, pulling me down onto her, kissing me and moaning. That shift in rhythm and her enthusiasm made me come quite quickly, and I think we finished all in all just before 30 minutes. She didn't seem in any rush, we lay in bed a while, then I got up, she followed, and was humming and dancing to the music she had put on, freshening up, fixing her make up; all the time naked, and looking flirting at me every once in a while. All in all a quite good experience, still not awesome, I guess because of the slow start for me, then the shift that made the best part last to short. Downstairs again things hadn't picked up, so I actually left after just one girl. Damage: 80 euros, so, really not damage at all. Considered going back tonight, but now it's almost one, and, well, wouldn't be there before two I guess, if I got out of bed now, showered, got dressed, and took a taxi. So, my first report. Been to E92 a lot over the years, so now I look forward to sharing some of my experiences. Never had any success (that I can remember) in villas or with independents here on CDS, so got intrigued when I saw that Tony is opening up again. Is that legit? Anyone been there yesterday (the 26th, opening day). Leaving tomorrow, but will be back already on Tuesday, very interested in checking out Tony's venue if that is worth visiting. Alright people, hope you're all having a lovely night!

Goldenera

09-27-19, 02:34

So, the fomo got the best of me, and I hit the shower, put some clothes on, and ordered a taxi to take me back to E92. Entered just before 02:00. Place much fuller than around midnight the day before. Both Johns and girls were more abundant, ratio quite similar. I, for some reason, always enter through the arcade / gambling salon, and on my way to the main room I was stopped in the corridor by Bianca, saying she'd missed me, and joking around. To my recollection I don't know her (got her name after a little banter), but she never answered seriously if we'd met before. Back in the days I used to end the nights at E92 pretty wasted, leaving my memory all but completely erased, hence my confusion. Anyhow. Bianca seemed nice, but there was something about her face that made me want to look around a bit more. Got cornered by a girl hanging with the Romanians, but claiming to be half Pakistani and half Russian. For sure didn't look Pakistani, but her English accent could pass as Russian. I said "nice to meet you" in Russian, which she didn't understand; I thought maybe my pronunciation was off, so I just said "Hello, what's your name" (easier to say), but when she didn't get that either I asked her if she spoke Russian; she didn't, neither did she speak Urdu or Hindi. Unattractive either way, left her, got stopped by Nicole, also claiming Russian origins, this time replying in Russian when I spoke to her. Got a bit friendly, but not really my type. See seemed too professional / too mechanical, slim, blonde, nothing wrong with her. Glasses, maybe a bit sharp face. Then I found a very pretty girl, who was flirty, laughed, joked. Julia. I suppose this is the Julia mr. PayForIt mentioned as one of his favourites (She has an infinity tattoo on her wrist, along with a few other tattoos spread around, and pierced nipples. I can understand her being anyone's favourite, absolutely. Trying to grade her, especially with the current backdrop at E92, I would also easily land her a 9/10 on looks alone. If only the club was filled with girls in her division; with different looks and attitudes, then I'd surely find my dream pro. Asked her a couple of questions, she gave the right price "75, but for me 80" - with a laugh and wink, said she didn't do BBBJ, nor french kissing. I prefer it when kissing is at least permitted, doesn't always use the option, but it actually being off the table reminds me quite cruelly of the fact that the girl I'm fucking doesn't necessarily enjoy it very much. Again she was quite pliable and flirty, when I said I preferred to have sex with someone kissing me, she said "you're not mye boyfriend", to which I replied "no, not yet", and she laughed again. Had quite fun just talking to her. Didn't want to offend or push her on the kissing, would've been gold to know what your experience is PFI, but, as I didn't I played my own game from the assumption she really doesn't kiss. And asked her; so, after we've been upstairs once, then you know me, so when I come back next week, then we kiss? She agreed to that, and up we went. She was nice, gentle, friendly, didn't act super-pro, but didn't not either. Weird thing to state, I know, but some of you will understand me. Not GFE, but didn't act like a master at work either. For sure nothing wrong went down, and technically she turned me on much more than the Colombian of yesterday; but she was actually a better bang. Of the two for some reason I'd still choose Julia for next time. While fucking her I though I'd test Bianca afterwards, as this was perhaps the other girl PFI mentioned, but 1) I felt rather done when we were finished, and 2) Julia said Bianca was not her friend; "just a girl I know from here". Mr. PayForIt did write Biana, so theoretically that could be a different girl, so, that combined with me being tired resulted in me actually just leaving after Julia. Again, spent just 80 euros, excluding taxis and drinks, again felt pretty good. If PFI confirms he actually meant Bianca, and could maybe say something about the performance of Julia vs. Bianca, I might be inclined to try Bianca next time, if she's there. All in all, my two nights at E92 now was quite successful I'd say, didn't burn cash, sessions with one girl each night; very different girls, but both very nice in their own way. Also noe bad experiences before or after. Advice to anyone not sure about when to go; seems like it's just busier and busier from midnight and at least until three, three thirty, with ratios between Johns and pros remaining pretty much constant, I. E. Selection is better later into the night. I'll be away over the weekend, back again Tuesday, will try to do Julia again at least just because I said so, so new reports will follow. Anyone been to or goes to Tony in the mean time, please let us know how it was! Good night / good morning.

PayForIt

09-28-19, 00:51

PayForIt mentioned as one of his favourites (She has an infinity tattoo on her wrist, along with a few other tattoos spread around, and pierced nipples. I can understand her being anyone's favourite, absolutely. Trying to grade her, especially with the current backdrop at E92, I would also easily land her a 9/10 on looks alone. If only the club was filled with girls in her division; with different looks and attitudes, then I'd surely find my dream pro. Asked her a couple of questions, she gave the right price "75, but for me 80" - with a laugh and wink, said she didn't do BBBJ, nor french kissing. I'd still choose Julia for next time. While fucking her I though I'd test Bianca afterwards, as this was perhaps the other girl PFI mentioned, but 1) I felt rather done when we were finished, and 2) Julia said Bianca was not her friend; "just a girl I know from here". Mr. PayForIt did write Biana, so theoretically that could be a different girl, so, that combined with me being tired resulted in me actually just leaving after Julia. If PFI confirms he actually meant Bianca, and could maybe say something about the performance of Julia vs. Bianca, I might be inclined to try Bianca next time, if she's there. Hi Goldenera, well firstly glad you agree with my assessment of Julia. Stunning. Great fun. She does not kiss. I've spent a lot of cash with her now in many sessions and she will gently give small kisses but not DFK. She says this is for her private life. She also does not allow FIV but she is so pretty with such a great body I'll compromise on those requirements. Bianca is as you described. Not as pretty though slim and nice. Her service is not quite as good as Julia but worth a try. But I'd chose Julia over any other girl I've been with at E92.

CoastGuy62

10-01-19, 23:35

Back to CDS and visiting this two girls in Marbella centre, easy to get to, clean apartment, no anal but BBBJ.

Perfect for me and maybe for you.

http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/julia-novedad-marbella-centro-651729542-533204757.htm

http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/alexandra-russian-model-in-marbella-535920283.htm

CoastGuy62

10-02-19, 03:10

What to do when not sleepy 01:30 and Estark just 5 min away?

Lots of WG girls and guys on the club, pushy Romanian at bar almost turned me of but 1,5 hour with tiny Spanish Maria 45 kg was perfect for 95 kg of swede. Hopefully I will sleep better now.

CoastGuy62

10-07-19, 04:29

Andalus Expat

10-07-19, 17:25

Visited same place as two times before, asking for specific girl from Pasion.com add and every time when getting there, there are always other older woman there instead of the specific girl. They have more adverts with same telephone number. 60xxxx819.Oh, yes! I know it well. Roughly opposite the Police National. Problem is, of course, so many of them do it they end up in competition with each other with the porkies. And this is of course Spain. Where the truth happens to other people. Something I'm trying to do something about. Hence www.secretgarden.sexy A website I'm putting together to list girls I know, personally and have enjoyed their company. (And also involved me learning website design from scratch!) All the girls do exist, the photos are of them and the services mentioned available. The phone numbers are their own but you can ring the site number if you have difficulties. But not at 4 AM unless you're looking for a less than polite response. If you come across any interesting talent, let me know full contact details and I'll try and check her out, see if she wants to be included on the site. But please, do not bombard me with xicas on a 3 week plaza intending to be in Bilbao next week. Residents only. For the time being I'm restricting listings to the coast from Malaga to Estepona and the immediate inland. Web pages take considerable work to build and I'm not getting paid for this. Not in money anyway. Although there have been some delightful offers of appreciation. And definitely, please, please, no clubs.

Some of the girls would be interested in doing parties, gang bangs etc Activities so far largely absent on the coast. If you're interested, again, get in touch.

RatherBigOne

10-07-19, 20:44

Are there any other clubs like new scandalo, estark and Sala Maxx in valencia elsewhere in Spain or even Europe. FKK didn't compare for me (Hamburg), girls were mostly cold and not as interacting / interactive. More like I was left alone to do my own thing and if I wanted to go to room that was it (Plus I don't care to pay 70 euros entry for buffet and spa and walking about in robe etc, overall wasn't for me). Whereas these Spanish clubs the girls are always coming to chat and flirt with you and the bars more lively and fun.

I feel for my travels I'd rather go other places than Malaga or Valencia again, but these clubs have been my favourite adult type venue. So I wouldn't waste money going anywhere else anymore hence looking for same setup but different cities.

Thanks.

P.S- Is New Scandalo generally quiet and not so many girls. It was when I went whereas Sala Maxx was crazy busy. Both around same times.

RatherBigOne

10-07-19, 20:45

Andalus Expat

10-08-19, 08:23

Are there any other clubs like new scandalo, estark and Sala Maxx in valencia elsewhere in Spain? You obviously don't know Spain very well. At a guess about 500, although it could be double or triple that. Pretty well every town will have one somewhere. The bigger the town the bigger the club. Cities tend to have several. Generally you'll find them on the outskirts. Industrial estates are a preferred location. Some, like Estark, masquerade as hotels. Finding them's easy enough. Just ask one of the locals or a taxi driver.

Portugal has some, but fewer than Spain. Laws in France technically prohibit them but there are clubs roncontres, as there are in Switzerland. I've been to a couple of clubs in Romania but I think they skate round the edges of the country's laws, so you do have to be in with the locals to locate them.

RatherBigOne

10-08-19, 19:48

You obviously don't know Spain very well. At a guess about 500, although it could be double or triple that. Pretty well every town will have one somewhere. The bigger the town the bigger the club. Cities tend to have several. Generally you'll find them on the outskirts. Industrial estates are a preferred location. Some, like Estark, masquerade as hotels. Finding them's easy enough. Just ask one of the locals or a taxi driver.

Portugal has some, but fewer than Spain. Laws in France technically prohibit them but there are clubs roncontres, as there are in Switzerland. I've been to a couple of clubs in Romania but I think they skate round the edges of the country's laws, so you do have to be in with the locals to locate them.I see but googling hasn't been of much help and when I go strip bars in spain often they are tiny bars, with average girls and only offer rooms. I assumed this is the main thing in spain these small bars and big clubs like New Scandalo which are 100 x bigger with 5 x more girls who are 100 x more attractive are rare. You have any names? I guess if I go back to Spain / Portugal only areas of interest are Porto, Lisbon, Lagos / Albufiera. Barcelona / Madrid / Sevilla. Any recommendation these areas for similar clubs I can't see much browsing the forum for these areas. If not in these places ill stick to Malaga / Valencia. I noticed sala lux also but that to far from Alicante. For me has to be max a 15 euro ride in taxi from central as I'm not so rich haha. Thanks.

ShooBree

10-09-19, 00:25

I see but googling hasn't been of much help and when I go strip bars in spain often they are tiny bars, with average girls and only offer rooms. I assumed this is the main thing in spain these small bars and big clubs like New Scandalo which are 100 x bigger with 5 x more girls who are 100 x more attractive are rare. You have any names? I guess if I go back to Spain / Portugal only areas of interest are Porto, Lisbon, Lagos / Albufiera. Barcelona / Madrid / Sevilla. Any recommendation these areas for similar clubs I can't see much browsing the forum for these areas. If not in these places ill stick to Malaga / Valencia. I noticed sala lux also but that to far from Alicante. For me has to be max a 15 euro ride in taxi from central as I'm not so rich haha. Thanks.I've never been to Sevilla, but its a city that should be explored. Theres another Scandalo in Cordoba, close to Sevilla, but I'm not sure of the quality nor quantity of women there. https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/cordoba-spain-most-unesco-heritage-sites/index.html.

La Jonquera is famous / notorious for their large brothels.

I've been to Vive in Madrid and I recommend it to everyone, a tad more expensive though.

Andalus Expat

10-09-19, 18:14

I see but googling hasn't been of much help and when I go strip bars in spain often they are tiny bars, with average girls and only offer rooms. I assumed this is the main thing in spain these small bars and big clubs like New Scandalo which are 100 x bigger with 5 x more girls who are 100 x more attractive are rare.That doesn't describe the situation at all. It's a smooth gradation from small bars with maybe 4-5 girls up to large clubs with a hundred or more. Scandalos is a rather meagre, tacky example. But Malaga is a small city compared with say Barcelona. And like I said, any of the bigger cities are likely to have several. Which are the best is another matter. And depends how you define best. As for finding them, you'll just have to do your own legwork. It really isn't hard. They're well enough known in their localities. Ask a cab driver or the hotel desk, if you're staying at a decent hotel. Or look for the enormous signs they stick up on city approach roads. And you could try Goggling in spanish, seeing as this is Spain. «puticlub + chicas» produces results from most places «puticlub + chicas + sevilla» produced a number for Seville.

CoastGuy62

10-09-19, 22:00

Nice but how much?150/ hour each of them.

CoastGuy62

10-09-19, 22:28

Oh, yes! I know it well. Roughly opposite the Police National. Problem is, of course, so many of them do it they end up in competition with each other with the porkies. And this is of course Spain. Where the truth happens to other people. Something I'm trying to do something about. Hence www.secretgarden.sexy A website I'm putting together to list girls I know, personally and have enjoyed their company. (And also involved me learning website design from scratch!) All the girls do exist, the photos are of them and the services mentioned available. The phone numbers are their own but you can ring the site number if you have difficulties. But not at 4 AM unless you're looking for a less than polite response. If you come across any interesting talent, let me know full contact details and I'll try and check her out, see if she wants to be included on the site. But please, do not bombard me with xicas on a 3 week plaza intending to be in Bilbao next week. Residents only. For the time being I'm restricting listings to the coast from Malaga to Estepona and the immediate inland. Web pages take considerable work to build and I'm not getting paid for this. Not in money anyway. Although there have been some delightful offers of appreciation. And definitely, please, please, no clubs.

Some of the girls would be interested in doing parties, gang bangs etc Activities so far largely absent on the coast. If you're interested, again, get in touch.Could be fun to learn some new things, have been looking at Noelia but I had a favorite in Estark that I played with many times this year, she is not here since June so I am looking for new friends now. Love this hobby after many years of marriage. See what happens in December when back in Fuengirola, think its time to visit Noelia. Maybe you can give som fun info when I am there.

TeddyBears

10-10-19, 00:15

Have been in CDS for a while and want to share a few experiences. Last Tuesday me and a friend visited Gibraltar to see the monkeys and the caves, must say it gave me more pleasure than expected. On the way back I insisted we go to Club Fontana, because neither of us had been there before and PFI a very trustful member of this board has written about it in positive ways. We were at the club way to early, about 9 pm if I am not mistaken so only a few girls present and none of interest really. But the club itself was very nice I can understand if there is good selection of girls down there, given the very large industrial area of the bay of Gibraltar and Algeciras.

After Fontana we went towards Marbella and the villa www.mansionbabylonmarbella.com that MagicSheap mentioned before in this thread. I really liked this place and if it weren't for my friend who wanted to leave because he was hungry I would have stayed. Most of the girls presented at the Villa was clearly doable and I like the layout with pool and relax area it's as close as you get to the german FKK's in Spain but much more expensive of course. Ok you don't need to pay for entrance, but €15 for a beer and €30 for ladies drinks or €50 for the small bottles of cava will make your day expensive fast if you want to stay for a long time. If I'm not mistaken the lady quoted €120 for 30 minutes.

Next step on our journey was Puerto Banus and some overpriced tasteless pasta. After all we were there so went over to Navy's I must say we were a bit surprised to see 30+ girls present on a Tuesday and the standard was actually pretty good, which surprised me as almost every report is negative about the place. Well the women here are not young, I would say only a handful were in their 20's most of them about 35 years old but as I said many were doable but we were on our way back to Malaga and their quoted price at €300 were laughable so we decided to drive back to Malaga but not before having a look at the industrial area of Guadalhorce!

This is the first time I have been going in a rental car at this place, normally I always go by taxi when you leave Scandalo late at night and then it's difficult to have a better look at the talent around. When we came the time must have been about 1 am and there was only a handful of girls throughout the area, anyway we found two black girls that were very pretty so decided to go and talk to them, next I found myself in an abandon industrial house getting my dick sucked and later fucking her, cost €30. She was actually the most beautiful girl I did see this vacation in CDS, just a shame it was in a dark industrial building LOL. My first SW in Guadalhorce, a very different experience I must say.

Went to Fuengirola a few times visiting Estark92, personally I don't think the current lineup is very good but it's not bad either, it lacked stunners the days I visited IMO maybe PFI's favorite girl wasn't working the days I was there or we don't share the same taste. Anyway had a couple of sessions with a Colombiana called Laura she was great fun and was some kind of expert in the art of BBBJ, nice small enhanced tits with a beautiful face. Recommended.

Had a threesome with her and a friend of her as well but can't remember her name and not too much about that session at all actually, it was the same night that me and my friend visited Andalus Expat having some drinks for a few hours. Thank you for your hospitality once again, it became a bit too much alcohol that night!

Another night I met Fabiana a blond Brazilian lady in her mid 30's great body and horny as hell.

My hotel was in the SoHo area of Malaga located between the train station and the port and I was lucky enough that Izabella a from Slumi.com with a couple of positive reviews had her apartment less than 100 meters from my hotel resulting in multiply sessions with her the last week!! €100 for one hour including BBBJ, kisses with tongue and CIM what else do you need?! Her pictures are real, she has a thread on Spalumi.com where her face is not blurred in her photos. Highly recommended.

Also had one session with Natalia from elcortinsex.com €100 for one hour incall, nice looking girl with a glorious body! BBBJ and kissing included, recommended!

https://www.slumi.com/escorts/malaga/capital/novedad-recien-llegada-la-mas-hermosa-chica-fitness-id-kmcpu

TallDarkUsa

10-10-19, 16:25

Hi,

Looking for information on where to pick up SW! If you can be a bit more specific on the route and location you would help me out tremendously.

Thank you!

RatherBigOne

10-10-19, 20:38

That doesn't describe the situation at all. It's a smooth gradation from small bars with maybe 4-5 girls up to large clubs with a hundred or more. Scandalos is a rather meagre, tacky example. But Malaga is a small city compared with say Barcelona. And like I said, any of the bigger cities are likely to have several. Which are the best is another matter. And depends how you define best. As for finding them, you'll just have to do your own legwork. It really isn't hard. They're well enough known in their localities. Ask a cab driver or the hotel desk, if you're staying at a decent hotel. Or look for the enormous signs they stick up on city approach roads. And you could try Goggling in spanish, seeing as this is Spain. puticlub + chicas produces results from most places puticlub + chicas + sevilla produced a number for Seville.I see thanks for the info. I know in Barca I was in loads places near centre but so drunk and prices were crazy expensive, at least scandalo and sala maxx etc are quite affordable so hope find more of these gems, gracias.

TeddyBears

10-11-19, 02:58

TallDarkUSA.

These girls we found were sitting about 2-300 meters to the right of Scandalo, if you look at Scandalo from the front. And if you come from Scandalo and you turn left where those girl sat you found a few more. Don't know now but before when you left Scandalo and just went straight down the street having Scandalo to your right, there were always girls in the first corner and also a couple more in the next corner if you turned left again. As I said this was actually my first time doing this in this area but I don't think it was my last?

Cocodrilito

10-16-19, 03:12

It may be located not exactly in the Costa del Sol, but does anyone here have experience in mongering in the Almería region? To be precise, in the city of Almería, Roquetas de Mar or Aguadulce. I'm interested in street prostitution, strip clubs, massage parlours, etc. My preferences include Spanish, East European (meaning Romanian), Latin American and African girls. I'll be grateful for any recommendations.

TallDarkUsa

10-17-19, 21:47

Costapunta

10-21-19, 12:36

Hola mongers all,

I gather from an earlier post that Tony's Fuengirola Port re-opened in September?

Contact details are reportedly in Euro Weelky but I'm guessing only in the printed version: Can't find them online.

I'm doing a rapid fly-past of Fuengirola on business in a week or two so would like to pop in. Are any of you kind chaps able to assist with providing the contact details / address? Not sure I'll have time to go on a newspaper hunt.

Will be spending some time in Malaga next month so will report in re appropriate (or inappropriate!) adventures after.

Cheers.

Pepe1976X

10-22-19, 09:40

Banger 66

10-22-19, 15:08

PM Angus! His monicker is Andaluz Expat, he will advise accordingly!Hi Costapunta,

Try the online version of euro weekly news page 92-93 and his contact details are in there, I spoke to him about a month ago and the port is open for business Mon- Fri 10.00-20.00? And is approx. 30 seconds walk from the London Pub.

Hope this helps,

Banger.

Bogman

10-23-19, 07:52

Was in Fuengirola for 3 weeks and just back.

http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres-en-malaga/sexy-chloe.htm

Contacted Chloe by WhatsApp and was easy to set up a 1 HR visit at her apartment in Mijas Golf. Had asked her to wear stocking and suspenders and she did not disappoint. On arrival Chloe greeted me a hug and offered me a beer and she had a glass of wine. Chloe started off with a nice massage and soon after we were exploring each other. As her add says she gives a great blowjob I wanted to find out if she did. Guys she gave me a fab natural blowjob with lots of attention to the boys. Her deep throth is just something else and try as hard as I could I exploded in her mouth and she licked until she got the last drop. After a chat we started round two with me exploring Chloe kissing and playing with her boobs. I ask and was givin permission to DATY and we ended up in 69 and again she took everything I had in her mouth. I was with her for 90 mins so asked what the damage was as its 70 HR so gave her 100. Taxi was 8 one way from train station so total damage including taxi return was 120 so I was more than happy.

http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/jovencita-recien-llegada-un-lujo-para-ti-536689054.htm

I always call to 16 B because I have a soft spot for Asian. My first visit did not go well and here is why. I arrived on a week night around midnight and rang the bell. The lady boss let me in and as she knows me from visiting before we have a chat. Anyway as I waited for the line up of usually 3 girls only one was offered. I hate to be put in that situation with only one because Koko in my eyes was only a 5 and I was not interested even after a gallon of beer. After I declined Koko lady boss said other girls were out with punters and I should have phoned. When I said I was leaving she said she would take care of me but as she was the wrong side of 40 I said I would call another day and I did.

There was 4 girls another afternoon including Koko and this time I was happy to take Sindy a 20 something Japenese girl. After the usual washing of tackle it was back to the room to explore Sindy. I ask and Sindy has some English so I told her I wanted a massage followed by a blowjob and that I wanted to come in her mouth. As always the massage is not great but soon enough Sindy knows what I want and gets to work. She is only about 20 and has lots to learn but follows instructions well. She askes after starting to tire of sucking do I want to fuck her so as I don't she takes a break while I suck on her very nice boobs. To finish I have her lie across the bed on her back with her head on the side of the bed. Sindy asks why I want her in this position so when I ask her to suck she is happy and after she takes everything. I have and I hand her some tissue to clean her self up. Overall Sindy delivered and damage 50 for 30 mins. 1 HR is 80 and for the option without a condom is an extra 20 but of course I never take the risk.

Part 2 to follow.

Bogman.

Bogman

10-23-19, 12:13

http://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres-en-malaga/celina.htm

Celina is always on my to do list and this visit was no exception. As I am a regular client I think she always treats me well so that's why I always visit her. After a catch up chat it was time for a nice massage so I hop on to the massage table belly down. Celina removes her robe to reveal a nice body and slowly applies some oil to start the massage. As I said before she is a great lady to talk so I just let her get on with a decent massage on my back, neck and legs.

After about 20 mins she askes me to turn over and its then I get a full view of Celina's assets. She wastes no time in bringing Samson to life with some very nice massaging and stroking and all the time I massaging her boobs with a bit of fingering when I get a chance. Celina know what I like and soon she has me in her mouth and its feels great. I try to enjoy the pleasure that I'm receiving and hold on as long as I can before I come in her mouth. When she is gone to the bathroom to rinse out mouth I clean myself up and move to the bed where I'm joined by Celina. We catch up on things and she tell me the ups and downs of her life and me the same.

When I'm recharged Celina shows me some new toys she got so for me the only thing to do is try them out. After some fun the toys are put to one side and we start fucking. Celina asks if I want to try her back door as she knows I do so she lubes up and I burst inside as far in as I could. After nearly 2 hrs I leave and wallet is only €100 lighter after another great time.

In total I visited Celina 3 times as I get on well with her and she never disappoints.

I also visited the brothel on Calle Salina beside the Plaza del Carmen church and across from the bank. I had a twosome there but felt rushed. I had phone and spoke to a girl who had English and came over 15 mins after talking on the phone. There were 4 women all a 6 and took 2 for 30 mins for €60. The girl who I talked to on phone was not there so not a great experience as I wanted CIM but got to fuck both and opted for a 4 hands handjob to finish.

One day I was at Miramar and was in q a Costa coffee when a lady started talking to me. As I'm the wrong side of 60 I though she was just being friendly. However she soon told me she was alone and asked me was I so I invited her to join me for a coffee. Luisa is early 50's and has a fab body so we had a nice chat as I have been to Switzerland a number of times. I was about to leave when she said she would like to meet again so I agreed. That evening we meet a restaurant in Post office square and after we had some drinks in Dylans Bar in fish alley. Anyway I ended up in her apartment for the night and spent a few more days with her before she went home.

Overall I had a good trip and some great weather and I'm all booked up for March next.

P.S. One afternoon I called Fuengirola Port a few time on the number in Euroweekly but seemed engaged so never bothered again.

Bogman.

Costapunta

10-23-19, 14:21

Hi Costapunta,

Try the online version of euro weekly news page 92-93 and his contact details are in there, I spoke to him about a month ago and the port is open for business Mon- Fri 10.00-20.00? And is approx. 30 seconds walk from the London Pub.

Hope this helps,

Banger.Many thanks Banger! Much appreciated.

Found it!

I'll post a report if I can get there in my Fuen fly-past.

Thanks also Pepe1976 for your tip.

Costapunta.

Pepe1976X

10-24-19, 11:43

Bogman

10-24-19, 15:43

Hello Bogman,

Thanks for the report and glad to hear your trip produced several fruitful encounters! Nice to hear Chloe is civilised enough to offer a glass of wine to start the entertainment! No better way to start a session! I guess she is a Hungry Hungarian in mid 40's! Is that correct. Well played with the encounter that worked out well! Have had these experiences myself especially when I ditch the shorts for a proper pair of trousers and shoes! LOL.Hi Pepe.

Chloe told me she was from Brazil but personally I think she is Eastern European. Will follow up on Chloe next March if she is still around.

Bogman.

Woodster69

10-26-19, 11:52

Andalus Expat

10-26-19, 17:30

Hi, has anybody met.

https://www.adultwork.com/Android/?SO=1#profile_5455813.

Kind of intrigued by her, been talking on WhatsApp and will see her Monday. Found the general standard down here to be poor on passion.Like so many of the links you guys post, this doesn't go anywhere useful. Try copy / pasting the profile page not the search page.

Costapunta

10-28-19, 16:43

Banger 66

10-29-19, 12:54

Hola all,

Does anyone have any feedback re LE Coq the'Or in Benalmadena? I've mooched though the forum and tinkered with the search doobrie but can't find anything?

Just wondering if it's worth a visit when in Benalmadena shortly.

Cheers.Hi Costapunta,

I can only admit to going the once this year in May, it was a decent place a small villa like building that was set up with a reception, bar and seating area to a good standard. I preferred it to Scandalous as it was a smaller affair and not like a large nightclub and the bedrooms where to a higher standard.

I think it was OK the girls there at that time varied in ranking mainly the usual Romanians, Brazilians etc and I will probably re-visit next year when I return.

A good website to visit would be www.secretgarden.sexy which one of our fellow female admirers have had an hand in the creation.

Hope you have a good time mate?

Banger.

Costapunta

10-30-19, 10:25

Hi Costapunta,

I can only admit to going the once this year in May, it was a decent place a small villa like building that was set up with a reception, bar and seating area to a good standard. I preferred it to Scandalous as it was a smaller affair and not like a large nightclub and the bedrooms where to a higher standard.

I think it was OK the girls there at that time varied in ranking mainly the usual Romanians, Brazilians etc and I will probably re-visit next year when I return.

A good website to visit would be www.secretgarden.sexy which one of our fellow female admirers have had an hand in the creation.

Hope you have a good time mate?

Banger.Hi Banger,

Many thanks for the info. Appreciated. I'll swing by and have a mooch.

'Scandalous'? Like it! Still one of my favourite pit stops though. I'll be spending a few days in Malaga as well soon so I'll be popping in. I know it has its ups and downs (excuse the pun) but I generally find it one of the best options for the intended purpose. Had a threesome with a blonde and a brunette pair of stunning Romanians there a few months ago, which was memorable for all the right reasons. An expensive night, largely as a result of self-inflicted 'lady drinks', which I usually go steady on, but I was in the mood and it was bloody good fun. Chicas' names were Anna-Maria and Dana I seem to recall but they've probably moved on now.

I tried a couple of the brothels in Malaga Centro (Ventura Rodriguez 51 and El Atico) a couple of weeks ago. Different beasts and less costly than the club's, I appreciate, but distinctly average in my opinion. Most denizens were 5-6. There was one 9. 5 but she had attitude and an expression like a bulldog chewing a wasp so gave her a swerve. Slightly curvy Spanish lass in El Atico was maybe a 6/7 in looks but made up for it in enthusiasm! Can't remember her name but then that's not at all unusual for me once the brain cell has got a bit relaxed after a snifter or two.

Thanks for the secretgarden link. I'll have a butchers. Always good to find reliable resources.

I'll report back on my forthcoming quality assessment endeavours in due course. Should the Old Man survive the efforts.

Cheers,

CP.

MagicSheep74

10-31-19, 00:40

An expensive night, largely as a result of self-inflicted 'lady drinks', which I usually go steady on, but I was in the mood and it was bloody good fun. Chicas' names were Anna-Maria and Dana I seem to recall but they've probably moved on now.

CP.Hi CP,

I can related to this for sure. Over the years I've have had multiple threesomes with Dana and various girls. She is a 5 ft 11 blond Romanian with an average face and banging body? I believe she has moved on now, probably in Rehab. I actually recall in one scenario doing Dana's friends from behind and fucking Dana also from behind with an empty bottle of Heineken. It was so romantic!

Oh, the memories, enjoy.

Costapunta

10-31-19, 11:16

Hi CP,

I can related to this for sure. Over the years I've have had multiple threesomes with Dana and various girls. She is a 5 ft 11 blond Romanian with an average face and banging body? I believe she has moved on now, probably in Rehab. I actually recall in one scenario doing Dana's friends from behind and fucking Dana also from behind with an empty bottle of Heineken. It was so romantic!

Oh, the memories, enjoy.Hi MagicSheep,

Yup, I think that's the same Dana! Good fun.

Heineken? No way!

Prefer Stella.

Cheers.

Andalus Expat

10-31-19, 16:19

A little trip down the coast last night. A Brasilena friend told me she's opened a house near the port so I thought I'd saunter down and check it out.

First met Linda, two or three years back, when another Brasilena friend showed up at my house at 8 AM one Saturday morning. She opened the car passenger door and Linda fell out onto the pavement. The pair of them had been out all night partying and she was well the worse for wear. We had to carry her in and put her to bed. She's visited considerably more than once in a professional capacity. Although how professional it is when you forget to go home, I'm not sure. Or when you seem to be having more fun than the client and he's having a good enough time.

Someone posted on here, recently, about the lack of opportunities in the Duquesa are. So now she's come along to fill the gap. House is in the same road as the Duquesa golf club. Chalet rather than a villa, as it's part of a row, but swimming pool and extensive terrace. I think I counted five working bedrooms & a copious salon on the lower level with another upstairs.

In addition to her and the Cuban girl (speaks good English) helping her run it there were four girls in attendance. All perfectly presentable. I'm not there just for the conversation so with the boss otherwise occupied, on recommendation from someone who knows what I like, took a rather curvy example down from Barcelona for a test flight. She claims she's twenty. And if she's anything like that, full credit to Barca's secondary education provision. Forget covered blow jobs. Don't think the idea's ever occurred to her. The other two entrances were duly enjoyed but mostly just lay back and let her mouth and probing tongue do the work until she got the result she was determined to achieve. Sybaritic is the word jumps to mind.

An hour's bedroom time at house rates is 120€. I gather the drinks policy is first one free for the client, hospitality drinks for girls 20€. Normal variety on offer. Searchable on Pasion via Duquesa+blanca+flor ('white flower' for those without the espanol). I'll put xica pics and contact details on www.secretgarden.sexy when I get a chance.

Have to see how it develops. Last night looked like an average night in late October, so one wouldn't expect the place to be humming. We were in the private salon at the top of the house but I could hear a fair bit of activity coming up from below. It may develop into a gem. Somewhere to have a relaxing drink with some attentive women, bit of bedroom athletics, without breaking the bank. It's certainly starting well enough.

Pepe1976X

11-03-19, 13:57

Hola all,

Does anyone have any feedback re LE Coq the'Or in Benalmadena? I've mooched though the forum and tinkered with the search doobrie but can't find anything?

Just wondering if it's worth a visit when in Benalmadena shortly.

Cheers.Follow my reports over last 18 months. Have reviewed and commented on it several times! Unique place. Worth a drink and maybe more there if you know what to expect and have a game plan!

Regards Pep.

Costapunta

11-04-19, 13:04

Follow my reports over last 18 months. Have reviewed and commented on it several times! Unique place. Worth a drink and maybe more there if you know what to expect and have a game plan!

Regards Pep.Thanks Pep.

Have RTFF'd a bit further. Found your reviews. Will have a gander and report back when I get to CDS shortly. The itinerary is getting full. Still, a chap must show some stamina and commitment!

Cheers.

CP.

TallDarkUsa

11-06-19, 13:30

Visited the Ind. Guadalhorce area around Scandalo Sunday night in search of some action. Maybe saw about a handful of girls with potential. Finally picked a pretty black girl and she took me to a secluded area not to far (wouldn't recommend but me being 6'7 and pretty fit I usually get away with risky situations while mongering). Got a descent BBBJ with a mouth finish. Damage was 25 and I got her info. Going to reactivate my subscription so I can start sharing info of girls I have met in costa. Will be in Algeciras until next summer and will be doing a lot more reporting!

Read some info about possible SW in Puerto banus near the navy bar? Anybody have any info on that? Thanks!

Pepe1976X

11-06-19, 15:02

Thanks Pep.

Have RTFF'd a bit further. Found your reviews. Will have a gander and report back when I get to CDS shortly. The itinerary is getting full. Still, a chap must show some stamina and commitment!

Cheers.

CP.One quick point to make is they will possibly ask for an entrance charge in lieu of drinks vouchers! That's only for obvious 1st timers! Don't fall for it, say you will buy your drink at the bar! Bar tender for years was an older Moroccan man called Jose' ! You can always use his name for a free entrance! In the summer the some of WGs sit in the gardens looking back to the Casino and Med. Ocean! Not in the winter though. So should it be a hot night do a tour of the garden to see if there is talent sat next to the pool!

Andalus Expat

11-07-19, 17:09

Read some info about possible SW in Puerto banus near the navy bar? Anybody have any info on that? Thanks!Oh, any number. And if she's got an entry key to block Q, you can give your wallet to her friend to look after while your humping her in the car park.

ShooBree

11-08-19, 08:03

Costapunta

11-08-19, 11:35

One quick point to make is they will possibly ask for an entrance charge in lieu of drinks vouchers! That's only for obvious 1st timers! Don't fall for it, say you will buy your drink at the bar! Bar tender for years was an older Moroccan man called Jose' ! You can always use his name for a free entrance! In the summer the some of WGs sit in the gardens looking back to the Casino and Med. Ocean! Not in the winter though. So should it be a hot night do a tour of the garden to see if there is talent sat next to the pool!Thanks Pep.

I'm a bit allergic to entry fees when I'll be buying their wares anyway. Ta for the tip re Jose and the pool lounging. I suspect that mid-November, at night, might be a bit nipply to be sat round the pool.

Cheers.

CP.

TallDarkUsa

11-08-19, 18:51

https://www.slumi.com/escorts/cadiz/algeciras/brooklyn-estoy-para-que-disfrutemos-de-una-gran-fiesta-blanca-cumplire-todas-tus-fatansias-id-bh2vd

Just visited Catalina (goes by London in person). Pictures are pretty accurate but the ass is a lot bigger and fake. I got to meet a few of the other girls and the lineup is very solid if you like Colombian women. Damage was 50 e for half hour. All positions with CBJ! Will repeat and possible try out a few of the other girls.

Also in my previous post I feel as if you a few of you thought I was maybe bragging. I was only commenting on my own experiences and safety when I'm out and about mongering in other countries. It's different for everyone is all I was trying to get at.

And if you have any experiences with SW in Puerto Banus please let me know.

Thanks.

Andalus Expat

11-09-19, 19:19

And if you have any experiences with SW in Puerto Banus please let me know. Thanks.Enough to know that they're a fucking nuisance and few if any of them are selling sex. And if you find one who is and you're caught shagging her in the vicinity of our apartment block, you're in for a very unpleasant surprise.

As for copping BBBJ's off the Africanas at Guadalorce, what you do with your health is your matter. But when you go on to visit other xicas on the patch, you make it everybody's risk. Many of those girls are illegals. Why they're working a crumby industrial estate as prostitutes. Which means they don't go anywhere near clinics to get health checks because clinics might want to see papers. They also come from countries with some of the highest incidences of sexually transmitted diseases in the world. And their clients are the riff-raff of Malaga. Join the dots.

TallDarkUsa

11-10-19, 21:07

"As for copping BBBJ's off the Africanas at Guadalorce".

After reading back on my comment I noticed I did write BBBJ. I have never done anything with a SW (overseas or in the states) without being covered so that is my mistake. As for your sarcastic responses they are not needed. Wish you the very best and hopefully we can cross paths one day so I can buy you a free rounds of drinks. Thanks.

Costapunta

11-22-19, 16:54

Hola mongers al,

Following a few days business on the Costa last week it seemed only polite to finish my brief visit with a therapeutic visit to my two favourite CDS clubs.

I was hoping to have had time to visit a few more (and thanks for the info re Coq the'Or Pepe) but work conspired against it. Nevertheless, Friday night in E92 and Sat in good old 'Scanders nurtured my relaxation, if not my wallet.

Regular visitors to these establishments will be well aware of their 'features and benefits' but I think it's always worth the occasional update for those with less familiarity.

Estark 92:

11 pm Friday (pointless going earlier, as has been said many a time before) saw a goodly selection of chicas (probably approx 40) of all shapes and sizes from the positively svelte and petite to some I definitely wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley, or anywhere else really. Scary! Overall though, a good percentage of slim 7's and 8's with a couple of 9's thrown in. A real mix of nationalities but the largest segment (in percentage terms, not weight) were Eastern European in my opinion. A similar number of punters there and quite a spread of ages from young bucks with eyes on stalks to one old boy who must have been 93 if not already dead. A pretty good vibe but bloody hot in there. Punter drinks still generally €10 and 'lady drinks' €30 a pop.

Had a good mooch and chat with a number of the cast and none were overly pushy (I tend to be complimentary and polite in my brush offs). I ended up having a good laugh with a Maldovan blonde called Rosie (apparently). Mid 20's, 5'3 and pretty trim. Headed upstairs for an hour for €150. Not sure if that could have been haggled down further but my wingman got clobbered for €170 with a friend of hers. Beer eyes I guess! Rosie was great. The backdoor was shut but all usual services were performed with enthusiasm and fun. No extra monetary demands were made in the venue, which is always refreshing and it was a very enjoyable romp. Recommended! More beers and mooching followed but by 3 am, this punter was feeling the need to crash.

S'candalo.

10.45 pm Sat. Having pitched up at Malaga Nostrum Hotel next door (always a convenient, well priced option) I headed for the club in the hope that my quivering sense of anticipation wouldn't be doused in the tepid waters of 'bugger, nothing here worth playing with'. I needn't have worried, the club was busy and well stocked with talent. Again 40-50 chicas with a good splash of 7's, 8's and a few 9's. Probably more South Americans than EEs etc but a good spread, if you'll excuse the pun. Again, I settled in for a few beers and chatted to a number of possible contenders before a very pretty and petite Spanish lass wandered over and called me by name. A bit of a surprise. Hey ho, methinks, who's she been nattering to? Turns out her mate is a lass called Maria (another Spanish lass) that I'd had some very long and entertaining nights with a couple of years ago (not seen her since). She'd spotted me across the bar and sent her friend Camelia to chat to me to keep me in a holding pattern while she finished her current commitment. Camelia was charming and we had a good natter and a few drinks until Maria joined us and it all got messy, but in a good way. We headed to the lounge bar area to chill in a bit of peace and quiet and have another snifter. After which is seemed positively impolite not to take both ladies for a spin. €450 for the pair. A very fine time was had indeed. As Aristotle once said, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, and this was definitely a case in point. We had a very inventive, enthusiastic and highly amusing hour. I would certainly see these chicas again. The prices at Scanders have definitely gone up. €50 for a lady drink is definitely pushing the envelope and, whilst the evening was long and very enjoyable, with good company and a fun atmosphere, it did feel a bit like open wallet surgery. Self inflicted I appreciate but.

I retired to the hotel at closing time, poorer, none the wiser but fully sated and woke up a few hours later with a mouth that tasted like the inside of a Siberian engine driver's glove, a dull ache behind the eyes and another post-Scandalo grin on the old chops. Expensive? Yes, but in my view the best club on the old Costa.

Cheers all.

CP.

PayForIt

11-23-19, 01:48

Hola mongers al,

Following a few days business on the Costa last week it seemed only polite to finish my brief visit with a therapeutic visit to my two favourite CDS clubs.

A terrific, humorous and informative report. I know both clubs too well. When the staff at both know your name, favourite girls and rooms you just know you have been too often!

Really enjoyed reading this and I am likely to be frequenting both some point next weekend. Alas my fav Julia at E92 is already home in Ro for Christmas so shall have to find an suitable alternative or two. Thanks for the great report.

Pepe1976X

11-24-19, 14:31

Hello CostaPunta,

Great review! And thanks for posting.

Regards Pep.

PayForIt

12-01-19, 09:20

In E92. Arrived later than usual for me - 11.20 pm. Was startled at how low the numbers were at that time. I've been in the club in summer when the girls are already in the main bar area and plenty of them by 10 pm. Not tonight. I knew my longtime favourite (Julia) was back home in Ro for Christmas. Many regulars not here tonight. No Fabiana, Danniella etc. Several new faces. Was not particularly taken by many and actually contemplated driving to Scandalos and Malaga Nostrum but decided I'd play the roulette for a bit and see if the LU improved. It did. But not hugely but by then I'm several drinks in so would not drive. Checked in with Sandra (purple haired receptionist. Nice lady) usual 75 e. The usual 102 room (I always forget it doesn't have a glass for water. Better to take a large bottle of water and leave it in the room). Basic but adequate.

Contemplated the options and to be honest did not consider them great. The stunning Ina looked terrific in her lingerie, was sat with a pretty brunette also called Julia but not my favourite. For some reason, though I've had very nice times with Ina and would definitely repeat, I decided on a different path tonight. One very cute Brasiliera with a good body appealed but facially sharp looking and she was too pushy for the room so declined. Tough as her body was superb.

Stood at a table with my long time friend blonde curly haired Alicia. Met her in Fontana years ago and she is always excellent in the room and a very lovely girl. Her best friend is Nicole (blonde Ro. Glasses) great fun and have sessioned with her a few times. They had a new friend Monica. Brunette with killer body and pretty green eyes. After buying them all a couple of drinks (30 e each so 90 x2 - yes I was drunk by then!) I decided on a party. Without them asking. Had to do a deal but by now it was 2. 35 am and they knew probably this was their best offer before sleep. So for the first time in 30 years of mongering I took three girls to a room. Have had a lot of threesomes but this was my first foursome. We had a fabulous time for 1. 5 hours after which I was truly exhausted and crawled back to 102 for sleep.

Not the best line up in E92 - girls away for Christmas. Still great fun. Finally. It surprised me on this night how many girls commented on my posts they had read here on ISG. One girl also asked that if a deal was struck on fees for more than an hour not to give that information here as it causes others to try to barter. This is reasonable on her part. Whilst the business of this forum is information sharing, I appreciate that girls will maybe offer special deals for some regular customers and not for others. The negotiation is of course standard in all clubs. I have had girls unwilling to negotiate at all on prices for 1. 5 or two hours. Recently in FKK Oase, the stunning Lorena told me she would do 100/30 minutes and that was the price no matter how long or short I booked. It's entirely her prerogative and the "take it or leave it" mentality is fine with me. I left it but I could see she would not struggle for punters at those prices so fair enough. Deals can be had, especially if the girls know you, know what you like, think they might have fun, will be treated with respect, maybe treated to a drink or two. I post this just for fellow mongers to be alive to the fact that in the CDS forum it would appear the girls are reading our posts. And if that is true. Thanks for the party Alicia / Nicole and Monica!

Costapunta

12-03-19, 11:27

Thanks for the great report PFI.

Sounds like a good night was had! I've just added a foursome with 3 chicas to my bucket list.

Interesting tip re the girls reading ISG reports!

Cheers.

CP.

PayForIt

12-04-19, 01:52

Final night of trip on a Sunday of all nights. Early flight from AGP in the morning so did not want to be too late. Booked into Malaga Nostrum as usual. Girl currently working behind the bar in the casino has the most enormous false tits. Wears a tight fitting top and I struggled to watch the football, eat dinner or play in the casino without looking like an idiot fixated with her chest. Which I was!

Into Scandalos at 11.15. Club was really quite dead. Met two interesting Brasilieras Angy and Rita. Angy blonde, quite tall, not typically Brazilian looking. Slim above the butt but larger there without it being too big. Nice personality. Rita dark, bigger girl, enormous breasts bulging out of her bikini top. Bought them a drink (50 each. Must have been mad. Good mood due to casino win! Looking around several laps of the club there were really poor other options. One girl with a spinner gym body which looked great but facially not amazing. She was quickly snapped up by the many punters (who outnumbered girls by about 2:1 ratio).

Tried negotiating with Angy and Rita. What price will you give me for 2 hours with both of you. No deal to be had. Told 200 e each for each hour. 300 for 90 minutes. Solid rejection of lower prices for longer time. Decided though I knew a room would these fun girls would be great, to see what I could find.

A few beers, suddenly the gym body girl pops out after clearly only 30 minutes with her last conquest. I bee-line to her. Another Angie! Argentinian. Spoke good Italian. Facially 6/10 but the body was to die for. Couldn't resist. Into room for an hour but was shocked to get the desk upstairs to be told the room fee is now 20 euros (on top of the 200 for the hour). Seriously? Paid, got in the room and after only 15 minutes I knew there was no connection, no fun, and it was all very mechanical for me. Aborted the session after 35 minutes (no refund).

By now I was really quite frustrated, 100 in drinks for girls, 220 for room with a disappointing choice so 320 down and no pop! As this was last night of the trip decided I couldn't miss the room with the two fun girls from earlier. Made the approach, agreed 200 e for room for the hour. Paid the 20 e room fee again and had an absolutely fantastic time with these two great girls who know what they want, how to get a guy to please and satisfy, and then are skilled at delivering pleasure.

So not a bad night but it stood out for one thing. Its now 220 for an hour in Scandalos. The girls were NOT of the same standard as E92 on 150/ hour.

I'm quite sad to say that I think my days at Scandalos are coming to an end. I like the club. I do not rate the girls higher than E92 and I most definitely do not want to be paying Club Vive prices for a club not anywhere on a par with Vive. I've negotiated 200 for 90 minutes before now with one girl at E92. Why would I pay that and more for 60 minutes in Scandalos. The value for money is obviously a lot better at E92. So are the options.

Have loved Scandalos but these prices are really off putting and the LU is very average.

MLover

12-04-19, 19:01

Hello,

I am new to this forum but I am familiar with the Malaga area as I am visiting lumis since a couple of years. I have never been to Fuengirola Port so I was wondering if anyone has experiences from the last few weeks. Recommendation for girls etc. Many thanks.

MLover

12-04-19, 21:22

PM Angus! His monicker is Andaluz Expat, he will advise accordingly!Did anyone visit this place in the last weeks? What about girls and experience? Thank you.

CoastGuy62

12-07-19, 14:57

Once again changing from 10 degrees below zero and back for a week with warm weather and hot girls I was late from AirPort but in time for a meeting with Christina from Moldavian and as last time I spent 2 hours with her. Haven't been here for two month so fun with some horizontal action and some talk and some laugh. Not at me at least. To bad she was going home for vacation.

Marbella next time to meet gorgeous Natalia. On picks at least, but for real it was an OK looking Russian. Boring and mechanical. Didn't finish and went home instead for looking for something else.

Than my old favorite come here for a privat visit and she messaged me and we agreed totally for 2 days and 1200 (including 200 in travel expenses) was that a normal price?? Or did she fuck me as good as she do in bed??

Always hear about the bad business, but after a shopping round in Purto Bonus I know for sure its only bullshit even if I thought that before. Now both my wallet and my balls empty so we see if there will be Estark tonight.

Coastguy.

Wiild

12-16-19, 19:12

I am down to this list for my early February Saturdav game / party night: based on previous experience and reading the recent posts here:

New Scandalo: my big hope, as I enjoy drinks combined with posibilties of flirting and more.

Glass Palace: Might take a drink here before Scandalo.

I will have a car but as I stay at Hotel Málaga Nostrum and like to drink / party I am not sure if it is worth checking out the alternatives this time of year:

LE COQ the'OR (El Gallo de Oro) Benalmádena.

Estark 92, under Carvajal station in Fuengirola.

Coq and especially E92 don't seem to get going, fun and full of girls until late (after midnight?) even at Saturdays?

Sala Divas: my last resort if all above is dead.

Do you guys have any other tips for this time of year. I prefer barbie / porn type girls with big fake boobs etc.

Thanks.

Mancio7819

01-13-20, 22:49

Costapunta

01-15-20, 16:08

An update on Oriental Club, which I visited last week. A quiet Friday night, no one there except me. There was only one girl working there, not as attractive as the girl I last met there in the summer months. Still, I took her and asked for a threeway. Which meant her and the boss. 100 for 30 minutes. Although both were far from model calibre, they both got involved and made it the best threeway I've had.

I'm now looking for something a bit more upmarket and wondering if it's worth travelling from Estepona to Estark Benaldamena, which this forum suggests is the best of the best. Or, save the travel time and head to Glass Palace. Is the trip to Benalmadena really worth it?

Also thinking of trying to meet the seemingly lovely Vanesa in Marbella from Slumi. Will add a review here if I end up meeting her.Hi Mancio.

Whilst I wouldn't describe Estark as 'the best of the best' it's definitely one of the best on the Costa in terms of selection and value at the moment. Scandalo is a bit smarter but so are the prices! See my and PayForIt's posts last month for a bit of info re Estark. Overall, it's my current favourite. Generally a good vibe, a great selection of chicas and moderate pricing. The girls are usually open to a bit of a haggle and I've nearly always had a good party time there! I would say it's worth the drive from Estepona. I shall be visiting again soon!

Have fun.

CP.

Wiild

01-16-20, 16:50

When does Estark open, when does it start to be decent quantity and party? 8? 10? 12-midnight? I will drive and would ideally don't want to go late but alos don't want to be there at too early and have to wait 4 hours until they open for real. Thanks.

...Estark. I've nearly always had a good party time there! I would say it's worth the drive from Estepona. I shall be visiting again soon!

Costapunta

01-16-20, 17:22

When does Estark open, when does it start to be decent quantity and party? 8? 10? 12-midnight? I will drive and would ideally don't want to go late but alos don't want to be there at too early and have to wait 4 hours until they open for real. Thanks.Hi Wiild.

Estark opens fairly early (approx 1800?) but it's not really worth going until at least 10:30 or 11 in my opinion if you want a good selection of chicas.

CP.

Andalus Expat

01-28-20, 18:45

With the live-in away in Brasil for a couple months a solid week of rain and snow (yes snow in Malaga City) and a fruitless weekend in the Algarve behind me, was feeling in the mood to give myself a treat Monday night. Girl with a fit body I'd seen advertising on Pasion, past couple weeks. Bit of a blind punt. The phone number wasn't that of any of the apartments I know. So likely a couple of girls taken a short let flat, try their chances on the CDS. That tends to be a font of dodgy photos and xicas pretending to be what they're not. But with it being less than 200 metres from home, if it turned out to be a blank I could always get a pack of fags from the estanco on the way back. Far from it. Very tasty brasilian blonde calls herself Flavia Oliveti, owns to 25, working out of an apartment in the Las Ramblas complex. The appointment was for 8 pm & I initially paid for an hour. By 10 we'd agreed to take a stroll round to my place and continue there. She finally left at 3 pm this afternoon, everything on the menu having been delivered and much that wasn't. Except for sleep. Whether she's intending to hang around, I don't know. If she does, I'll stick photos & contact details on the secret garden. Sexy site. But there's sufficient details there for a Pasion search to turn her up, if you fancy giving her a spin. I'll certainly be repeating.

Wiild

01-28-20, 21:38

Thanks! As Estark is so close to Carvajal I think I will take the C1 train from Malaga Centro Alameda at 9. 30 and there and try to catch the last train back 00:26.

This way I can drink and enjoy the party.

Hi Wiild.

Estark opens fairly early (approx 1800?) but it's not really worth going until at least 10:30 or 11 in my opinion if you want a good selection of chicas.

CP.

PayForIt

02-09-20, 02:21

4 days on CDS. Quick review. Had decided after last trip I would avoid Scandalos at 220 euros per hour. Just not good enough girls or rooms to make that value for money. I'm happy to pay €500 for 2 of my favourites in E92 for 2 hours and they will take the €250 each very happily.

Night one. E92 first session with tall blonde Marissa. Lithuanian. Very attractive and intelligent. Great session for 2 hours. No deal to be had as she is popular and does not need to negotiate. Session 2 with Monika. Ro - great fun girl in the room. Lots of options from 10 pm onwards.

Night two. Fontana - LOS Barrios. Disaster. 2 years ago I ranked this the best club on CDS. Yep - better than Scanadalous or E92. Now? The worst. If you are into very large (fat) girls this is a great option for you even at €180 hour. There were only 2 girls in the club not fat. One very pushy and not pretty and the other looked like blonde Caprice. Slim Russian, not that young and I passed and left without any session that night. It was really that bad.

Night three. Business in Algeciras meant I had to remain at that end of the coast. Returned to tiny Cleofas in the town before La Linea. 5 girls only but 3 were fine and sessioned with Monika (great body) and Lorena. Great night - €130 per hour and best night of my trip.

Night 4 - back to E92. Poor options for a weekend. Another 1. 5 hours with Marissa. Still pretty and bright and great service. No second session.

I get the feeling the CDS is quiet but of course it is only Feb.

Wiild

02-11-20, 18:07

New Scandalo: Saturday: around 12 girls 22:00 - 24:00 in the evening, at times there was almost 20 guys, felt kinda slow. Quality of girls 6-9. Eastern Europe, Latin. I did not like anyone until I saw this blonde Colombiana. I think her name was Alexandra, big curves, heavily enhanced: fake tits and ass, super thin nose and a face very tight from either operations or fillers / botox, just my type! Very seductive and teasing in the bar so went with her: 100 euro for 30 mins + 20 for the room. VERY seductive also in the room. I think her plan was to extend the teasing and foreplay so to cash into another 100 euro, she suceeded haha, but it was so good that I did not mind. 220 all in. Worth it and enjoyed it.

Glass Palace: took one drink here before Scandalo. Around 10 girls, quality lower than Scandalo: more 4-6. Eastern Europe, Dominican Republic, two nice Moroccan girls with great English but not to my taste. Drinks prices similar to Scandalo. Girls are more pushy here, wanted girls drink constantly.

Estark 92, under Carvajal station in Fuengirola: 15 girls on Sunday night, 5 customers, and it felt like a more party place compared to Scandalo even though it was Sunday and early. Quality of girls 6-8. Girls felt more friendly and were even more open for flirt and cuddling in the bar, several girls kept stroking my cock through the pants, nice! Many girls from Romania, most of them pleasant, one moroccan girls, some latin. I did not really find someone I liked to take to room. Party due to being stressed not missing the last train back to malaga centro. But I want to come back here since I like it. Drinks were similar or even higher priced than Scandalo: in all these places the best value drink is liquor / cocktails as they are BIG. Coke or beer are priced the same at around 10 euros.

Wiild

02-11-20, 19:03

I would like to highlight this question once again: What are Spain's best clubs? For German FKK's or Brazilian clubs it is rather easy to use ISG forum to get a clue of what are the best clubs for mongers. For Spain it is harder. My criteria: 20-50 girls Saturday night during high season, dressed sexy, ready to party Club feeling: alcoholic drinks served, music played, rooms on site, great if there is striptease but not needed.

My contributions: add more please and add to the discussion, I haven't visited all of these:

Madrid: Vive.

Malaga: Scandalo, Estark 92.

Alicante: the'Angelo, Las Palmeras, Sala Luxx.

Barcelona: Bacarra Strip Club.

Tarragona (outside Barcelona) Club Privee

Jonquera: French border) Club Paradise,

Cordoba/Sevilla: S'candalo

That doesn't describe the situation at all. It's a smooth gradation from small bars with maybe 4-5 girls up to large clubs with a hundred or more. Scandalos is a rather meagre, tacky example. But Malaga is a small city compared with say Barcelona. And like I said, any of the bigger cities are likely to have several. Which are the best is another matter. And depends how you define best. As for finding them, you'll just have to do your own legwork. It really isn't hard. They're well enough known in their localities. Ask a cab driver or the hotel desk, if you're staying at a decent hotel. Or look for the enormous signs they stick up on city approach roads. And you could try Goggling in spanish, seeing as this is Spain. puticlub + chicas produces results from most places puticlub + chicas + sevilla produced a number for Seville.

ShooBree

02-11-20, 23:20

I would like to highlight this question once again: What are Spain's best clubs? For German FKK's or Brazilian clubs it is rather easy to use ISG forum to get a clue of what are the best clubs for mongers. For Spain it is harder. My criteria: 20-50 girls Saturday night during high season, dressed sexy, ready to party Club feeling: alcoholic drinks served, music played, rooms on site, great if there is striptease but not needed.You got it under control, but I would add Valencia: Sala Maxx.

Madrid has several clubs that fits your criteria, Factory Air, which is cheaper then Vive I visited it in 2013. The problem is that it's outside of the city center. You also got, if it's still open (Hot / Dreams close to the Wax Museum in Salamanca, Madrid. But honestly, Vive is in a league of its own and the only club that I go to anymore.

I wouldn't bother with the clubs in Barcelona, I visited Barcelona for two nights this summer and didn't do any mongering at all. I'll be back in July but will most likely skip the nightclubs. They are expensive and not especially good.

I've only gone to the'Angelo of the Alicante clubs, it's OK but nothing that I have to revisit.

My plan for this summer includes Lisboa (Elefante Branco, Gallery), Malaga (Scandalo, Estark), Valencia (Sala Maxx) and Barcelona. In Barcelona I might try out the casas.

I will visit Madrid in March, in the summer all the locals flee the city. It was terrible when I visited Madrid during August in 2018.

Wiild

02-12-20, 18:46

Great ShooBree! You / We got some great leads here, some of my listings below I think I stole from your previous posts. I kind-of agree on Barcelona, not any great clubs, but I like the city and the combination of alcohol, party and sexy girls so I sometimes just go to the clubs to flirt, no real action, Baghdad is kind of unique, can be a memorable experience if you dare to play along, but as I have already been once I will not likely go again.

I will also visit Madrid (and Lisboa) in March, I have limited experiences in these cities but I hope it will be fun. .

You got it under control, but I would add Valencia: Sala Maxx.

Madrid has several clubs that fits your criteria, Factory Air, which is cheaper then Vive I visited it in 2013. The problem is that it's outside of the city center. You also got, if it's still open (Hot / Dreams close to the Wax Museum in Salamanca, Madrid. But honestly, Vive is in a league of its own and the only club that I go to anymore.

I wouldn't bother with the clubs in Barcelona, I visited Barcelona for two nights this summer and didn't do any mongering at all. I'll be back in July but will most likely skip the nightclubs. They are expensive and not especially good.

I've only gone to the'Angelo of the Alicante clubs, it's OK but nothing that I have to revisit.

My plan for this summer includes Lisboa (Elefante Branco, Gallery), Malaga (Scandalo, Estark), Valencia (Sala Maxx) and Barcelona. In Barcelona I might try out the casas.

I will visit Madrid in March, in the summer all the locals flee the city. It was terrible when I visited Madrid during August in 2018.

PayForIt

02-14-20, 08:36

The Cane

02-15-20, 07:40

Wondered if any members think Pigmalion in Madrid should make the list? I've not been but the reports always seem good.I would put Pigmalion on the list for guys who want to roll like that. Meaning they have a very nice, large selection, but the pricing is exorbitant in my view. I just don't see the value there. Would take tiny Club Estark at Hotel Diana Plus any day of the week over Pigmalion. Perhaps not the same numbers, but I only need a handful, and Club Estark in Madrid has delivered every single time.

MagicSheep74

02-16-20, 01:24

Wondered if any members think Pigmalion in Madrid should make the list? I've not been but the reports always seem good.

The best clubs are not always the biggest or most lavish. On CDS, I'the rate tiny Cleofas near La Linea much better than Glass Palace in Estepona. Miladys is good but far too expensive (300/ hour) in Marbella. As previously stated, for me Scandalos at 220/ hour cannot compete with E92 at 150/ hour.Hey PFI,

My brief opinions.

Pigmalion. Took 2 different girls from here over the year's for 300 euro's for 2 hours back at my hotel. Both in my opinion 9/10.

Vive Madrid. A little restricted in service's, but some seriously hot women - 220 euro's.

Milady. Overpriced, but they will never reduce it. In the summer months some absolute stunners can be found. 300 an hour.

Estark 92 - Best Value for money at the moment - 150 an hour.

Scandalo. My best memories, but overpriced based on the current girls. 220 an hour.

I am currently having a lot of success in Dubai, back on the Coast in June. Hope you're well.

MS.

PayForIt

02-17-20, 00:29

Hey PFI,

My brief opinions.

MS.I'm good thanks and trust you are too. Had some great nights in the New York and Hyatt in Dubai! Enjoy.

Had another E92 session Friday. Good. Ada and Monika 3 sum. Nice time with two nice girls.

And I agree re Diana Plus. Always a few gems and the pricing is sensible.

Enjoy the UAE and look forward to reading your posts in future.

Andalus Expat

03-02-20, 12:28

Or would have been if I'd stayed at home & watched TV. But I'd been invited to Casa Luna in Malaga. An amiga's sister is the encargada. And the slack time of the weekend seemed a good time to visit. House is in Calle San Pablo, off Callle Trinidad and by the side of the church. So prayers for inspiration or forgiveness should get a direct line. Eight girls in residence, couple of Latinas, a mulata, rest orientals. Presentable. About what you'd expect from the cheap end of the market. Estrela gave me Lucy to play with. Chinese, mid 30's. Friendly and a very competent performer. Started with slow, teasing uncovered oral and just kept getting better and better. Somewhere around the 45 minute she straddled me, fed me up her arse and worked me slowly towards a climax. Then dismounted, pulled the condom off and took the lot in her mouth. And here's the thing. She didn't stop. Kept on with the licking & sucking so I was fit for another round. We got another of the Chinese girls to join us for the next hour and between them they achieved the same result as before. Prices? 80/ hour for a girl. Opinion? The house is in the business of providing economical, good quality sex to regular customers 24/7. And if that's what you want, that's what you'll get. Soft drinks or beer are offered. If you want something stronger, take a bottle.

Strolling back towards the Ciudad Antigua in the evening sunlight, still fizzing, thought I'd go checkout the other end of the market. The Themple occupies an entire large building at Calle Marques de Guardiaro 4, off of Alamos. Opened about six months ago. This place is serious quality. The room I was given was more like a suite. Mirrors nearly reaching the high sealing. Antique sofa. Central bed covered in rugs. Separate full bathroom. Presented with a goblet of gin & tonic a selection of 7 or 8 girls were proffered for inspection. I wasn't counting at this point. Like you don't count miracles. Picked Ana, tall, slim Spanish. Could have walked off the catwalk at a fashion show. Couldn't really do her justice after partying at Casa Luna. But there's always next time and there will be a next time. Many next times. This is what I've been looking for. To be treated with respect and civility in the luxury I expect. Expensive? Girls are 150/ hour but worth every cent and more (There's a half hour option at 100 but it'd be an insult to good woman flesh.) First drink's free, one for your new new found lover's 20. And you wouldn't be a gentleman, not to offer. I think I found paradise.

Andalus Expat

03-02-20, 12:36

Sorry. Should have added. These places are not clubs. You don't just walk in. Always ring and book first. You can Google for the numbers.

PayForIt

03-03-20, 00:34

The Themple occupies an entire large building at Calle Marques de Guardiaro 4, off of Alamos. Opened about six months ago. This place is serious quality. I think I found paradise.Sounds great but I googled and cannot find this place. Is the spelling of Themple correct? Nice report but if you could provide name or website details that would be terrific thanks.

Andalus Expat

03-03-20, 09:48

Sounds great but I googled and cannot find this place. Is the spelling of Themple correct? Nice report but if you could provide name or website details that would be terrific thanks.Surprised you didn't find a link to their putisite ads. I did. Try "El Themple, Malaga" I'll put something on the www.secretgarden.sexy website when I get a chance. When I tried ringing them on Sunday, both their mobile numbers were dropping out after half a dozen rings. But I got a response on Whatsapp. Don't know what that was all about. There's also a new place opened up at Elviria. I may go along there, tonight and check it out. A new apartment opened up above the supermarket in Los Boliches. I've put photos of a couple of the girls on the site. Rubi's been round on an outcall more than once. Great fun if you like Latinas in the hour-glass configuration. Real trier. And on the subject of impressive structures, Liz is back from Madrid. I know a couple of guys watch this forum have had the pleasure and will welcome the information.

PayForIt

03-04-20, 00:08

Surprised you didn't find a link to their putisite ads. I did. Try "El Themple, Malaga" I'll put something on the www.secretgarden.sexy website when I get a chance.El Themple website crashes and won't open. Secret Garden has links but again crash. Would be interested in your Elivria experience if you do it. Cheers.

Andalus Expat

03-04-20, 01:43

El Themple website crashes and won't open. Secret Garden has links but again crash. Would be interested in your Elivria experience if you do it. Cheers.Themple hasn't got a website, as far as I'm aware. I haven't linked to anything on SD, but if you tap / click on the homepage photo there's a couple dozen images they sent me. It's not crashing on my phone / laptop / tablet W7/ Android.

The Elviria place opened at the weekend so unsurprisingly it was quiet. It's hardly out of February and everywhere's the same. Small bar, tiny dance floor & a pole. All they need's a pole dancer. I was chatting with a couple of Lithuanian girls. Attractive enough. But I don't really need to plough bar girls. I've enough willing talent will visit. But if it gets off the ground it'll be a nice place to take people. Xica behind the bar's a honey. My G and T cost 10 & drinks for the girls was 20 each. A romp's 100/ hour. I'll stick details on the site when I get photos.

Andalus Expat

03-07-20, 15:42

New? I've never heard of it. Spotted heading for Torremolinos from Plaza Mayor on the north side of theroundabout junction of the M21 with the A404. Calls itself Club Luna or Luna something. It's not showing up noticeably on Street View with a 2017 time stamp but I'd suspects it's the large red villa next to the industrial buildings. The big sign depicting a xica recumbent would seem to indicate it's not a retirement home. What it offers I haven't a clue and I've no intention of finding out. I'll leave that to the more. Intrepid.

Banger 66

03-27-20, 17:01

Andalus Expat

05-13-20, 13:35

Since no one has reported from here for the past couple months, thought I'd write something let you know what's going on. Well Coronavirus has certainly been an unwelcome guest at the party. Basically, everything stopped dead. Go outside and you were likely to run into the police, who'd tell you to go back home or slap you with a 600 fine.

And it's been very, very tough for the girls. Although some of the independents are registered as autonomo (self employed) and are eligible for social security pay outs, most of them aren't. Being registered means a 250 minimum social security payment monthly, irrespective of earnings. For an apartment girl on the usual 50/50 split that translates into 10 half hour /50 tricks. In the quiet times of the year a complete week's earning gone before she thinks about feeding herself, let alone her other expenses. Your girls are high maintenance. A weekly nail job will probably set them back 30, hair more. And on top, she'd be liable for being assessed for income tax. It's a powerful disincentive. So, basically, we've got girls living on fresh air & hope. Some of them have been trying to work through the lockdown right from the off. A handful, initially, but this has increased as need has triumphed over fear of infection. Until now, the Pasion advertising resource is back to pretty well the usual level of population. But it's not producing much. Many of the girls have only been able to offer outcalls. Clients have been reluctant to travel and a working apartment with a stream of visiting men is hardly going to be popular with the neighbours. Not saying there's many clients anyway. The married ones playing away would have difficulty explaining their absence and there just isn't any money about.

For me, unlike for most people here, the past couple months have hardly been boring. I've a lot of friends amongst the girls and I've been doing my best to help them. Feeding more than a few of them and providing a couple with accommodation. There were eight round the dinner table Sunday evening. I try to keep it to practical help rather than money. There simply wouldn't be enough money to do it. At times it's had aspects of a film about the French Resistance under Occupation curfew. Putas making furtive dashes through deserted streets fearful of being captured. But I can proudly say that I'm currently running the best restaurant bar in the town. It's the only one that's open. And the clientele is a delight. OK. I've exposed myself to some personal risk and we've been subverting the purpose of the quarantine. But the quarantine hit girls much harder than most. For many of them, their "home" is the suitcase they wheel from one apartment or club to another. Their bed, anywhere they can find one. Their entertainment a phone on pay-as-you-go data if they're somewhere without WiFi and can afford the phone credit. And no one else is bothered.

What you're going to find when you are able to come back down here I couldn't tell you, but I can guess. I doubt if all of the clubs will be reopening, so you club fanboyz* are in for a hard time. It's unlikely to be permitted before September at the earliest and 6 months without revenue will do for a lot of them. We're already seeing regular businesses folding. If they do, it'll be to vastly reduced custom. There's so much money been sucked out of the economy. Particularly on this coast which depended heavily on tourism. Prices are going to have to fall. They were going to have to anyway. Since I first came down here, 7 years ago, apartment girl prices have crept up from 50/60 an hour to 100 and over. That's against a background of falling client spending. For a start Brit tourists and ex-pat's, who's spending make a significant contribution to the coast's economy, have seen a hefty devaluation of the GBP against the Euro in the past 3 years and have had less to spend. It's the Latin tendency to ignore economics whilst economics doesn't ignore them has got all the Club Med countries in the shit. And it looks like there'll be more girls trying to work here. The S. Americans can't go home because there are no flights and they couldn't afford them if there were. There are a lot of local girls trying their hand because unemployment is soaring. Generally, Spain's being kicked 30 years backwards. Just at the moment I'm being told "I'm not going to fuck anyone for under 100 an hour!" That fantasy is not going to survive not being able to eat. Prices will fall considerably. Much the same will happen elsewhere. As I write, apartment rents demanded are still the same as before the lockdown. But there are going to be few holiday lets taken this season and there's much less money about, generally. They are going to have to reduce. The same is going to apply to business rents, because so many businesses are closing. Unless there's massive transfers of money from northern countries to southern. And the decision of the German Constitutional Court last week against debt mutualisation makes that unlikely. Spain's headed to be a poor country again. Bad for the Spanish, a bonanza for you. If you can get here.

PayForIt

05-14-20, 00:35

Since no one has reported from here for the past couple months, thought I'd write something let you know what's going on. Well Coronavirus has certainly been an unwelcome guest at the party. Basically, everything stopped dead.

And it's been very, very tough for the girls.
For me, unlike for most people here, the past couple months have hardly been boring. I've a lot of friends amongst the girls and I've been doing my best to help them. Feeding more than a few of them and providing a couple with accommodation. There were eight round the dinner table Sunday evening.
What you're going to find when you are able to come back down here I couldn't tell you, but I can guess. I doubt if all of the clubs will be reopening, so you club fanboyz* are in for a hard time.Spain's headed to be a poor country again. Bad for the Spanish, a bonanza for you. If you can get here.Really interesting post so thanks. Firstly, I'm sure we are all wondering if your "guests" are "paying" for accommodation other than with cash. And if the answer is yes your Sunday evening must have been amazing!

To the future. I'll repeat what I've posted in the German FKK forums. I believe that when we get through the other side of this it will be party time for us guys. More pretty girls will work to make money than previously, so talent levels will increase. Prices will be lower for a short while only. I agree some clubs will fold but I doubt the main ones Scandalos, Estark 92 and Fontana will do so. But prices at the first and last of these will have to drop to attract new custom.

There will be many married guys desperate to escape lockdown, blow some cash not spent and will hit the available ladies. And yet some mongers will have ditched the habit and will not return.

But prostitution and men's need for it has lasted for many thousands of years. And it will be back raring to go on the CDS when travel is permitted again. I think your September hunch is about right. Until then, stay safe!

The Cane

05-14-20, 01:01

And yet some mongers will have ditched the habit and will not return.And any fellow who does this, I say was never ever really a true monger LOL!

Andalus Expat

05-14-20, 02:43

Really interesting post so thanks. Firstly, I'm sure we are all wondering if your "guests" are "paying" for accommodation other than with cash. And if the answer is yes your Sunday evening must have been amazing!

To the future. I'll repeat what I've posted in the German FKK forums. I believe that when we get through the other side of this it will be party time for us guys. More pretty girls will work to make money than previously, so talent levels will increase. Prices will be lower for a short while only. I agree some clubs will fold but I doubt the main ones Scandalos, Estark 92 and Fontana will do so. But prices at the first and last of these will have to drop to attract new custom.

There will be many married guys desperate to escape lockdown, blow some cash not spent and will hit the available ladies. And yet some mongers will have ditched the habit and will not return.

But prostitution and men's need for it has lasted for many thousands of years. And it will be back raring to go on the CDS when travel is permitted again. I think your September hunch is about right. Until then, stay safe!You're welcome, PFI. But sorry to disappoint you. Since I started getting involved with the xicas, on a social rather than business level, I've always stuck by the rule 'Nada es para nada'. You're paying somewhere along the way and the less obligations accumulated the better. I also have a great deal of respect for the girls. It's a job like any job. When I was in business, I had friends amongst the clients. Didn't mean they didn't get invoices. And in any case Sunday night I was too knackered. Saturday, one of my closer friends was here. She'd been stuck in lockdown with her disabled mother in Torremolinos, since it first started & was starting to gnaw on the furniture Gave her a Colombiana who's also very keen on girls to play with. Let's just say they enjoyed themselves, immensely. And they both got paid. For an hour, anyway. That we were still awake at 7 am wasn't my fault! Otherwise I mostly just ignore them. Treat them like I would any other friends. They don't pay anything because they haven't any money & I don't take payment in services. I know where that'd end up.

I think you may be optimistic about the clubs. It's all about margins. The big clubs have big overheads. They need a considerable turnover to break even. If they do reopen towards the autumn, there'll be little money floating about. You have to remember that for the Spanish guys, the clubs are not really about sex. They're more entertainment & social. If they just want to screw a girl, they go to an apartment where it's half the price. Yes there'll be high earners who'll weather the economic storm. But how many? I've one of the Scandalos girls here at the moment. Sorry, I'm not going to tell you which one. She hated the place. We're more like a big extended family than an ongoing cat fight. She may even end up as a permanency.

You're right about the pretty girls. There's a few that I know, have apartments here but don't work here. They work in Northern Europe where the money's better or Spain's more select establishments. Now they've joined the local talent for rent and they're a cut above the usual. Looking at Pasion ads, they're not the only ones. I might force myself to check.

Andalus Expat

05-30-20, 11:13

Yesterday Mia from Medellin, who's been staying with me the past few days, got an offer of a plaza at a house at Chiclana de la Frontera, near Cadiz, so I thought I'd run her down there for a change of scenery. First time I've driven more than locally for a while. Traffic was very light for a Friday afternoon. The peaja was only taking plastic. It declined my multi-currency debit card but accepted the Spanish. And the restaurants and toilets in the service areas were shut. Couple truckers got the benefit of a free look at Mia's butt as she squatted for an emergency pee by the exit lane. We took the coast road past Algeciras because I wanted to look at the ground from Tarifa towards Cadiz where the prelude to the Peninsular War Battle of Barrosa played out. Pleased I did. I'd imagined it as been sere and parched like my stretch of the coast but it's actually quite verdant and rolling rather than mountainous. More reminiscent of Portugal. No doubt the influence of its proximity to the Atlantic. It was certainly a few degrees cooler than I'm accustomed to.

Terminal guidance was problematic. The car GPS had never heard of the street name I'd been provided with. But we found the Eroski supermarket on the outskirts of Chiclana and Mia knew her way from there. The "house" looked like a rental place the proprietor had taken for the purpose. Behind a sliding gate with parking space for a few cars. Decor very much in Spanish style. Brown and gloomy. Large salon with sofas and TV and several bedrooms. It reflects the Spanish idea of hospitality common across this game. Do the minimum required and sit back and wait for the money to role in. Anyone who's seen my apartment or the villa before it knows it's not an attitude I share. And I only do it as a hobby. It's certainly more interesting than golf. As for the talent available. It was early evening when we arrived and only a couple of well proportioned blondes were on display. One Brasilera, the other another Colombiana. The lad in his twenties played host seemed as thick as mince. Tried to sell me an hour with one of them. Didn't seem to occur to him that a bloke arrives with his own puta probably doesn't need help in that direction.

Those wanting to know more can view the house website can view it at www.casatemtaciones.com Where Mia has mysteriously been transformed into Agatha from Puerto Rico. Why, I haven't a clue. Her accent is nothing like Purto Rican and her connection to the Caribbean is having lived on Aruba. She speaks Dutch and travels on a Dutch passport when not using the Colombian.

The map on the website shows the house as being in Calle del Velero. My phone, when I saved the location, seemed to think it was in Camino del Pino Gordo. So there seems to be some confusion over where the road changes from one name to the other. How very Spanish!

Recommended? I wouldn't bother. If I was on that end of the coast I'd be homing in on my friend Linda's house at Duquesa where I'd get a better welcome. But if you're intending coming down this way when flights restart and wanting to get your ashes hauled, you're going to have to explore these options. Can't see clubs reopening any time soon. If they even survive. The game is definitely changing. Girls who are working are reluctantly dropping prices. There really isn't much money about and the damage the shutdown has caused hasn't even begun to work its way through the economy yet. It's going to get tougher.

Bereft of Mia for a couple of weeks, at least I still have my very own Scandalos girl demonstrating her talents in the kitchen. She's an obsessive cleaner as well. Both Mia and Julia are on the www.secretgarden.sexy website.

Macron

06-01-20, 02:05

To all of you fellow pervs who live out in Spain, make sure you take care of yourselves in this difficult time.

It won't be long before we are all back doing the things we love to do!

Keep your peckers up!

Regards.

Banger.Heard the lockdown extended till June end, 31st that is. If yes then we wait for a few more days. Most of them are becoming uneasy and raring to go out. Guess Sanchez decides what to do next.

PayForIt

06-02-20, 23:51

Bereft of Mia for a couple of weeks, at least I still have my very own Scandalos girl demonstrating her talents in the kitchen. She's an obsessive cleaner as well. Both Mia and Julia are on the www.secretgarden.sexy website.Nice and interesting report as always. Thanks for keeping us all in the loop even if most of us cannot yet travel. Looks like flights will operate from early July. I have been messaging a fav of mine who works at E92 and she said the club owner has tried to assure the girls that the club will indeed reopen when allowed and he will welcome them back. I think a lot of managed to get home to EE or beyond. A few have remained in Spain and are working from apartments etc. I was also told that (as you correctly reported) prices have dropped as custom is thin on the ground. I will be very surprised if the wealth behind Scandalos allows the club to close. But I also have my doubts that it will drop prices at all. The prices at E92 were already very reasonable and negotiable so I cannot see a big reduction there either at least until the punters start rolling back in. I suspect the bigger question will be when the clubs will be permitted to reopen. But I could well see the Glass Palaces and Fontana not making it to the other side. I hope that villa of yours is big. You might be the biggest open venue on the CDS soon! Well done in helping the girls and Mia get to her new workplace even if it sounds a bit dodgy!

Andalus Expat

06-04-20, 14:46

N I have been messaging a fav of mine who works at E92 and she said the club owner has tried to assure the girls that the club will indeed reopen when allowed and he will welcome them back. I think a lot of managed to get home to EE or beyond. A few have remained in Spain and are working from apartments etc. I was also told that (as you correctly reported) prices have dropped as custom is thin on the ground. I will be very surprised if the wealth behind Scandalos allows the club to close. But I also have my doubts that it will drop prices at all. The prices at E92 were already very reasonable and negotiable so I cannot see a big reduction there either at least until the punters start rolling back in. I suspect the bigger question will be when the clubs will be permitted to reopen. But I could well see the Glass Palaces and Fontana not making it to the other side. I hope that villa of yours is big. You might be the biggest open venue on the CDS soon! Well done in helping the girls and Mia get to her new workplace even if it sounds a bit dodgy!Well, the club owner would say that, wouldn't he? He's preserving his option to keep the club open This is all about margins. I haven't the vaguest how profitable a club is. But market theory would suggest an enterprise with a high profit margin will quickly find competitors moving in to share in the bounty. Competition then reduces the profit margin to the point where it's compatible with the return on capital deployed in all sectors of an economy. It is just a business, like any other. The question is, will turnover drop to the point where a club is no longer profitable? Running at a loss, they could very quickly exhaust cash reserves. And they will have been burning money, the past 3 months. They have fixed costs, irrespective of whether they're open or not. They may also be servicing debt.

It's going to depend on the time scale over which restrictions are lifted. Puti clubs are going to among the last things to go back to normal. How do you socially distance in a knocking shop? And don't think the authorities are going to cut them any slack. They'll be the first places blamed if infection rates go back up, or even regarded as falling too slowly. They're an easy target. The police have been harassing working apartments right from when lockdown started and they're still doing so.

I don't think anyone here really appreciates how much damage the lockdown has done to the Spanish economy. They knock-on effects aren't really showing up yet. You don't know if a business continues to be profitable until you re-open it. It's fairly obvious that the few bars etc have reopened are running at a loss. There wasn't much profit in the businesses last year. Why so many close shortly after being started. If you can't show a profit with a full bar, how do you do so limited to a third of the customers?

I knocked the villa on the head the start of last year. It was an experiment done for fun. And it was good fun, at times. You probably could do it for profit, but it's incredibly hard work. Not helped by the people you're relying on mostly working against you rather than with you. You soon realize why the people run villas treat the girls so badly. They don't respond to being treated well. The majority of putas are lazy, selfish, stupid, ignorant, unreliable little thieves with the intellects of goldfish. They can't even comprehend their own self interest or learni from experience. It's why they're putas. Few of them have any friends, male or female, because they don't make good friends for other people. That said, I have acquired a little posse here who seem to realise that friendship can be more than an opportunity to skin people for their money. Some of them go back several years. That's swelled in the last couple of months because there's been a lot of girls needing help to get through this. Friends of friends, mainly. Whether they become permanencies depends on them. Usually takes 6 months before I have much confidence in them. The current apartment's conveniently bang in the middle of town. Four bedroom, so there's usually a couple here. But there's been more than a dozen, on occasions, doubling up & crashing on sofas. Too much of a good thing!

PayForIt

06-06-20, 06:23

It's going to depend on the time scale over which restrictions are lifted. Puti clubs are going to among the last things to go back to normal. How do you socially distance in a knocking shop? And don't think the authorities are going to cut them any slack. They'll be the first places blamed if infection rates go back up, or even regarded as falling too slowly. They're an easy target. The police have been harassing working apartments right from when lockdown started and they're still doing so.

I don't think anyone here really appreciates how much damage the lockdown has done to the Spanish economy.Sounds grim all round. But then the oldest profession in the world will obviously survive, and as previously reported I suspect the quality might increase (in terms of better looking girls deciding to earn quick money by joining the game at least until things improve) - that is certainly the case with private escorts in some other European countries. For those of us who like the clubs, we can only hope that those who run the clubs have made enough cash over time to enable survival. Of course as you say though, even if they do re-open will people have jobs / incomes to be able to afford attendance? The Spanish mentality to economics has always baffled me. I once had to pay nearly doubt the price for a round of golf at a great and well known course. When I asked why the price was so high the answer was "we are not busy so we need to charge more to those who come! When I ventured to suggest if he halved the normal price he might attract double the custom. Which would stay after gradual increases to normal, he looked at me like I was the crazy one! Hope the girls don't take that approach! I doubt it. Keep well and fingers crossed 2020 will end with some return to normality.

ShooBree

06-08-20, 00:22

Berrys66

06-08-20, 14:37

https://elpais.com/especiales/2020/coronavirus-covid-19/fases-desescalada/malaga/malaga/

Malaga and Andalucia are now in the third phase where nightclubs been allowed to open, anyone knows what that means for the puticlubs like Scandalo and Estark? According to website of Scandalo they're still closed.Spain has been under reporting the numbers as theyre worried about tourism, the funeral parlours say the numbers don't add up and there's disparity between what's confessed and funerals.

Andalus Expat

06-08-20, 17:52

https://elpais.com/especiales/2020/coronavirus-covid-19/fases-desescalada/malaga/malaga/

Malaga and Andalucia are now in the third phase where nightclubs been allowed to open, anyone knows what that means for the puticlubs like Scandalo and Estark? According to website of Scandalo they're still closed.Of course they are open. But you must not approach within 2 metres of the girls. And you can fuck any of the girls you like. Providing she normally lives with you. Duos are available on Zoom. Simples.

PayForIt

06-10-20, 13:20

Of course they are open. But you must not approach within 2 metres of the girls. And you can fuck any of the girls you like. Providing she normally lives with you. Duos are available on Zoom. Simples.Hey it's movement in the right direction. I'll take it!

What about sex being allowed provided girl and guy wear hazmat suits.

Truth is that I suspect once nightclubs and all bars have actually traded for a month or so, the puti clubs will open too.

It is noticeable that the movement now is all in one direction towards getting back to normal as soon as possible albeit with caveats / limits etc. For sure clubs will be last to open as full contact is of course the main service and so it is impossible to have any distancing. Lots on the German FKK boards about clubs looking to open with masks being compulsory in the public areas. Seems a bit unrealistic to me. Ok to fuck in the room but masks everywhere else! No DFK or BBJ (but of course the law in Germany became no BBJ since July 2017 and that didn't change anything other than prices! I suspect for a while girls will refuse both until things are much better. Whatever. At least we are seeing some positive progress. Spain lifted quarantine for several countries after July 1st. Once the tourists start flocking back in the service levels will increase as the girls will want to start recovering financially.

ShooBree

06-17-20, 09:35

Scandalo is back, or the terraza and "hotel" are opened anyways. I'm curious about the line up, service, prices and any new rules.

http://newscandalo.com/

Haitek

06-17-20, 18:32

Scandalo website announces reopening today on June 17.

In fact, only the terrace is reopened.

TeddyBears

06-17-20, 23:58

Seems like the clubs are reopening again, Estark92 is open again and as others pointed out Scandalo is open for business again. In Madrid Vive Madrid is also open again! Happy days!! It will be interesting to see how interactions with the girls is supposed to occur when keeping distance from each other at the same time!

Hopefully a few friendly people will post their experiences in the coming weeks, I will hopefully be able to visit in middle of August if nothing changes.

It seems like you have your hands full Andalus Expat!

Be careful out there and stay safe everybody.

PayForIt

06-19-20, 00:42

MagicSheep74

06-19-20, 12:58

Great news. Due over in July. Will for certain head to 92 - will be really interesting to see how it is there.Good news, moving back in the last week in August. Happy to catch up when any members, I feel that most of our regular haunts should be properly back in action.

Stay safe.

Berthold

06-20-20, 09:01

TeddyBears

06-21-20, 12:25

Vive Madrid / Flowers Park, Factory Air are still closed, they will not open till the end of June.OK I did google searched Vive Madrid, and there are a message from them saying, "importante cerrado hasta el dia 15 de junio" but if I'm not mistaken you live in Madrid Berthold so I am sure you are right.

PayForIt

06-22-20, 00:09

OK I did google searched Vive Madrid, and there are a message from them saying, "importante cerrado hasta el dia 15 de junio" but if I'm not mistaken you live in Madrid Berthold so I am sure you are right.So after the report that Estark 92 and Scandalos (in part) are open. I am sure that I, like many others, are patiently awaiting news of some reports from these clubs. Are they 100% open? Are the girls readily available and not in masks? Reports in some parts of Germany (you'll love this) that only doggy and reverse cowgirl are available (so girl doesn't need to look at your face!) Some girls will say this is a great idea pandemic or not!

Come on guys. You guys over there on the ground. Tell us please what is happening in the club scene. Open / closed / punters / not / many girls / not / prices / rooms / special measures for social distancing or not?

A report from a visitor to Estark 92/ Fontana / Glass Palace / Scandalos would be much appreciated.

ShooBree

06-22-20, 00:56

Andalus Expat

06-22-20, 13:56

Come on guys. You guys over there on the ground. Tell us please what is happening in the club scene. Open / closed / punters / not / many girls / not / prices / rooms / special measures for social distancing or not?A report from a visitor to Estark 92/ Fontana / Glass Palace / Scandalos would be much appreciated.Not much to report at the moment. Estark reopened Monday last week, with 5 girls I'm told. Julia returned to Scandalos. I was tempted to drop into Estark on Saturday night as I passed, but couldn't see the point. Didn't seem to be many cars outside though.

There's not going to be much to be learned at the moment, anyway. We may well see a repeat of what happened when bars reopened a couple of weeks ago. An initial flurry of custom as people took advantage of the novelty after being deprived so long. Which quickly petered out. Walking around Fuengirola at the weekend, half the bars seemed to be open with a few people sitting outside. Some bars are newly reopened. But there's as many were open last week have gone dark again. Much the same story, elsewhere along the coast. It's not hard to see why. The level of custom any of them are getting won't be sufficient to break even on the the cost of opening. Unless you're the owner / operator and can ignore the cost of your own labour. Noticed the same with shops. There's a lot of shops haven't reopened. Some look as if they're still stocked and might do so later. Many have obviously folded and are now empty.

At the root. There's simply little money going around. Tourism is the CdeS's main if not only industry and its workforce and businesses have been idle for going on three months. It's an economic disaster area. I was in the big Corte Inglis department store and I'd say there were a third of the customers I saw at the same time last year.

How's it affecting the business we're interested in? I know a lot of girls and none of them is attracting much interest. Typically they're seeing maybe one or two clients a day. Some days, none at all. The conversion rate on enquiries is appalling. Twenty calls or Whatsapps may produce one half hour client and a lot of stupid offers.

The question for the big clubs is not whether they are open but whether they continue to be open. They provide a particular service for their Spanish customers (Forget about you foreigners. Over the year your contribution is trivial). They're not selling sex. Any Spaniard just wanting sex would go to an apartment at half the cost. They're for the Spanish version of Billy-No-Mates. The guy wants to get his ego groomed by the sort of attractive young women wouldn't look at him twice anywhere else. Many in their middle years with a fat ugly wife at home. They're theatre as much as anything else. So are there enough of these guys with sufficient money to pay the girls for their time? If the girls don't earn the club isn't viable.

There's a lot of fantasy both here in Spain and on this board about "getting back to normal". I'd say forget it. We'll eventually get to a new "normal" but it won't be the normal of last year. It's impossible to know what it will be because it's too early to know what will survive the crash. It's not as if the economy here was particularly healthy before the lockdown. Some data points. In January, our Puerto Banus apartment was fully booked for the entire season. Currently we have a provisional booking for 14 days in July. That pretty well sums up the holiday lets market. I've a friend who owns a restaurant here. It's a popular established restaurant been opened a long time. Last year he was telling me it was barely covering its operating costs. Now he's seriously considering walking away. And we're people with resources have the luxury of making choices.

Depends on how the locals here react to the new reality. Pay-fot-it's post of 06/06 gives you some idea of how they might. Julia went back to Scandalos on exactly the same terms as she was before. Estark's probably done the same. So the girls are 75 down before they start a shift. Same with many of the apartments and independents. Still asking 100/ hour but earning little.

PayForIt

06-22-20, 23:44

Not much to report at the moment. Estark reopened Monday last week, with 5 girls I'm told. Julia returned to Scandalos.
The question for the big clubs is not whether they are open but whether they continue to be open. They provide a particular service for their Spanish customers (Forget about you foreigners. Over the year your contribution is trivial). They're not selling sex. Any Spaniard just wanting sex would go to an apartment at half the cost. They're for the Spanish version of Billy-No-Mates. The guy wants to get his ego groomed by the sort of attractive young women wouldn't look at him twice anywhere else. Many in their middle years with a fat ugly wife at home. They're theatre as much as anything else. So are there enough of these guys with sufficient money to pay the girls for their time? If the girls don't earn the club isn't viable.

There's a lot of fantasy both here in Spain and on this board about "getting back to normal". I'd say forget it. We'll eventually get to a new "normal" but it won't be the normal of last year. It's impossible to know what it will be because it's too early to know what will survive the crash. It's not as if the economy here was particularly healthy before the lockdown. Well that certainly dampened my enthusiasm about the clubs re-opening! Here was me thinking I would be heading over in early July and filling my boots (or rather emptying my sack! If you mean the brunette cheerleader type Julia from E92 who was big friends with tall blonde fellow Ro Ina, she is my all time favourite at E92 and I would return to Scandalos to see her.

Very shocked she would return there.

I just don't get the economics of Scandalos. It's now 200 or 220 for a room, plus the drinks prices including a whopping 50 e per drink for a lady.

At E92 I will regularly proposition 2 ladies (pre pandemic) with a deal of 500 euros for 2 - 2. 5 hours including buying them x2 20 e drinks each (so another 80) and maybe 3 of us playing the roulette for 30 minutes first with me "investing" 50 to each of them on the basis that we shared the winnings if any. So this cost me 680-700 euros for 3+hours of great fun, some beers and drinks for the ladies and over 2 hours of great threesome sex. Not cheap but a great night out. Before this selection I might have taken a couple of girls for 30 minutes on a "trial" to see if they would be worth the investment later. Not a bad way to start a night with some pretty entrees! My calculations were always that if I paid the full 150/ hour fee I would be at 600 for 2 hours anyway. The extra investment I felt always paid off, put the ladies in a party mood. Particularly if they also picked up 100+ on the roulette. On several occasions, the girls would win, get their winnings and head to the bar to by me the drinks! Great feel good factor all around. For sure I had times when it didn't all go to plan and failed a little. Contrast this with Scandalos. Into the club, say 40 on own drinks for a beer and a couple of spirit+coke drinks. If I take one girl to the room for 2 hours it is now 400 euros, awful soulless rooms and a guarantee that the phone would ring at least 15 minutes before the 2 hours was up. In a 2 hour session the girl is going to want a drink so not to kill the mood you get her one. 50 euros, then your own again and before you know it the 1 hours 45 minutes before the argument about the last 15 has cost 500 euros for one girl. Not great fun. If I wanted to repeat the threesome it takes it to nearly 1000 euros for 2 hours (or less). So for me, E92 became my club of choice.

If you are correct about the majority of custom being Spanish (and as you live there I trust that judgement and knowledge entirely), I really don't see how Scanadalos is the better option. Sure, the Spanish probably prefer the S American chicas to EE, and of course it is closer to Malaga instead of the Brit infested Fuengirola, but the Spanish, in my experience don't like spending cash. So I'm bewildered how Scandalos has kept alive and has now seemingly survived this crisis.

I can only have faith or rather hope, that "normal" will indeed return. Many of the girls I have spent hours with over many years have told me that they find it so hard to give up purely because the amount they can earn having P6 is so much larger, earned quicker, for less work, than in a "normal" job. That alone should mean they will be in the clubs. But you are right. If the punters don't return, the girls won't earn, will clear off and the clubs will die. At least for a while until the economy bounces back and entrepreneurs see the gap in the market and start afresh.

Not sure how I'd get on with only 5 girls in E92 in July but I will try for sure! Though the temptation now to hit Scandalos just for Julia, despite all I wrote above, is enormous.

Andalus Expat

06-23-20, 13:39

I just don't get the economics of Scandalos. It's now 200 or 220 for a room, plus the drinks prices including a whopping 50 e per drink for a lady.You don't get it because you're looking at Scandalos from the perspective of a Brit tourist. You regard it as a place to go for a fuck, maybe because the other options aren't available to you. You ever been to a small town club, out in the campo? I used to use one just off the old road from Granada to Motril, when I had a place in the Alpujarras. Tatty little place with a bar & half a dozen nondescript putas. It was an alternative to drinking with the English in the bars near where I was living. My preferred tipple was 4 and, being a regular, the barman would be pouring it as I walked through the door. Spent enjoyable evenings playing pool, chatting with the girls, dancing with them to music on the juke-box. Vast improvement on listening to some Brit tosser boring on the subject of house prices in the Home Counties. I bought the girls drinks as the price of their company, not to fuck them.) That said, I celebrated a birthday working through the entire cast. Took me 6 hours and cost 250. Drinks were on the house. I was a valued regular customer.).

I used to use a club on the road from Valencia to Castellon, Luna Azul at Xilches, in much the same way. To me, best club in Spain. For the Spanish these places are the equivalent of what certain pubs are for the Brits. Or maybe it's the real, members-only clubs, lurk below the radar in many British towns & cities. There was a good one in Belsize Park, even had the hookers. The sort of clubs you like, Scandalos & Estark fill me with horror. Like going out to dinner at McDonalds. But Malaga's a city of half a million people. Another half million in its immediate locale. Enough to supply sufficient sad Spanish will pay what's required for that particular experience. Or did do, pre-Coronavirus. And of course the majority of the customers have to be Spanish. The clubs need punters 52 weeks of the year. Not just in the tourist season. You must have seen them. Sitting at tables in the smoking area at Scandalos. Even couples. Or the middle aged bloke perched on a stool at the bar in Estark buying drinks for the fat girl with the cleavage. He'll be there every Friday.

All of these places fill particular niches in the Spanish consumer market. Estark, its. Scandalos a different niche. The question is whether these niches will still be there after the Coronavirus lockdown tore a gaping hole in the Spanish economy.

The sort of money you're paying for your sexual exploits, even in Estark, sounds ridiculous to me. Particularly, considering the girls. You do realize the girl-girl interaction is likely to be theatre? Club girls are highly competitive. Behind the painted on smiles there's a perpetual war going on. It's all business. Typically I pay around 4-500 for duos on outcalls. But I pick girls I know get off on girl-girl play. One of them's lesbian, as far as personal relationships are concerned, the others enthusiastically bi-sex. But that tends to be open-ended, timewise. I've had them here from 11 pm through until halfway through the following day. Because they're genuinely enjoying themselves. They don't want to go home. It's a change from normal work for them. Punters are generally crap sex. Why they're punters. If they were any good, they wouldn't be paying for it. And I do insist on paying. I socialise with a lot of the girls outside of work. I like putas. They're my sort of people. I don't have much to do with the ex-pat community here. (Yawn) So I try to keep work & friendship separate. They fuck, they get paid. And they need the money. Especially now. The relationship the Spanish have with putas is much more like mine than yours. The resident independents all have regulars. The apartments & villas have established customer bases. Clients have favourite girls. Girls have favourite clients and the flats & villas have favourite customers. Of course its about money but not all about money. There's a certain amount of slack gets cut.

You're right about the attraction of the S A girls at Scandalos. Since the Spanish are looking for more than just sex, there's a ladder of preference on how sympatico they are. Top rung is Spanish. Below Spanish speaking S. America because the culture's similar. Even that's complicated because Bolivianas, Equadoras & Paraguayas etc are regarded as peasants and often claim to be from elsewhere. Below come Brasileras because a lot of Spanish don't like Brasilians of any sex. One of the meninas has just experienced this, trying to rent an apartment. Romanians are regarded as trash, to be avoided. Why Estark has more than Scandalos because Estark is more tourist orientated and tourists aren't particular. So maybe Scandolos prices are pitched to get the first pick of prima Latinas. Remember, Scandalos does not sell sex. Scandalos sells services to the girls & drinks to the punters.

Andalus Expat

06-23-20, 14:26

If you mean the brunette cheerleader type Julia from E92 who was big friends with tall blonde fellow Ro Ina, she is my all time favourite at E92 and I would return to Scandalos to see her.Girls' names are pretty well meaningless. They change them as often as they change their bragas. She's Julia on here because that's the work name she's been using as an indy during Coronapanic. Who she is at Scandalos, I haven't the vaguest. To me, like most of the girls, she's the name on her passport. She's a natural brunette. What Brasilera isn't? But is currently blonde. Collar and cuffs for added fakery! Could be a "cheerleader type". She could pass for 20 in club lighting. She'd also be Romanian, if asked. I like her. I can see why she'd be someone's favourite. She's fun, well behaved, cooks well, some basic English. She's a qualified optician's technician, if you need your glasses fixed. Go look at her on secretgarden. Sexy See if you recognize the bod. Although I don't think her pics do her justice. She looks slimmer in the flesh. But, of course, she's pitching at the Spanish punter with a different metric to mine.

PayForIt

06-24-20, 01:06

She's a natural brunette. What Brasilera isn't? But is currently blonde. Collar and cuffs for added fakery! Could be a "cheerleader type". She could pass for 20 in club lighting. She'd also be Romanian, if asked. I like her. I can see why she'd be someone's favourite. Go look at her on secretgarden. Sexy See if you recognize the bod.Alas not the Julia I know from E92 who was 100% Ro. Not at all Brasilera looking. Left E92 last August. Text to say back Feb but wasn't. As you say. How many Julia's!

PayForIt

06-24-20, 01:24

You don't get it because you're looking at Scandalos from the perspective of a Brit tourist. You regard it as a place to go for a fuck, maybe because the other options aren't available to you.

(They are but I prefer to select from a line up. I really hate the bait and switch of escorts/apartments where the girl looks stunning on the website and you turn up and she is not only photoshopped but double the weight. It is why I really dont like London for mongering though other like respected monger Steve9696 loves it. I like to get a beer, see the talent walking around etc and choose.)

You ever been to a small town club, out in the campo? I used to use one just off the old road from Granada to Motril, when I had a place in the Alpujarras. Tatty little place with a bar & half a dozen nondescript putas. It was an alternative to drinking with the English in the bars near where I was living. My preferred tipple was 4 and, being a regular, the barman would be pouring it as I walked through the door. Spent enjoyable evenings playing pool, chatting with the girls, dancing with them to music on the juke-box. Vast improvement on listening to some Brit tosser boring on the subject of house prices in the Home Counties. I bought the girls drinks as the price of their company, not to fuck them.) That said, I celebrated a birthday working through the entire cast. Took me 6 hours and cost 250. Drinks were on the house. I was a valued regular customer.)

(sounds fun. I like Cleofas in La Linea near Gibraltar - really small - only 4 girls but had great nights there also playing pool, drinking and enjoying the girls)

The sort of money you're paying for your sexual exploits, even in Estark, sounds ridiculous to me.
(To each his own - for me - its reasonable value. I dont do the threesome every time - frequently Ill pick one girl only and have maybe 2-3 hours. I dont like short rooms unless the girl is a stunner with no personality in which case an optifuck as a warm up is nice.)

Particularly, considering the girls. You do realize the girl-girl interaction is likely to be theatre?
(not my thing at all - I never ask for it and positively reject it if offered. )

Punters are generally crap sex. Why they're punters. If they were any good, they wouldn't be paying for it.
(interesting take but I dont agree. I know Im not crap! I get far too many compliments (oh I know they do that with literally everyone) but I mean outside of paid sex. I have had plenty of girls get to time and say they will continue for no further money. When they are choosing to spend their time for free, rather than return to the bar for more money, you know you are giving them an unusual and enjoyable time. Like anyone - I can be crap! But I think too much of a generalisation. Also, bear in mind that an ideal punter for girls is often one who cums inside 10 mins and has paid for 30 or more and is done. That is crap on the part of the punter but great for the girl.)

And I do insist on paying. I socialise with a lot of the girls outside of work. I like putas. They're my sort of people. I don't have much to do with the ex-pat community here. (Yawn) So I try to keep work & friendship separate.
(We would get on well!) See my responses above. Forgotten how to cut and paste each response so in brackets All very interesting.

Andalus Expat

06-24-20, 20:14

See my responses above. "I really hate the bait and switch of escorts / apartments where the girl looks stunning on the website and you turn up and she is not only photoshopped but double the weight. It is why I really don't like London for mongering".

Alas, that's the world of prossies. It starts with the two big ones. The lie the girl tells you; that she wants to have sex with you. And the lie you tell yourself; you believe her. From there, it's lies all the way down. See also: used car dealers & estate agents (particularly Spanish ones) It's half the reason I put the www.secretgarden.sexy site together. Every girl on it exists, they are her photos and she does what she says she does. I know. I've been there. And the girls on it represent less than 50% of those I've tried. The others didn't make the grade. But I can understand your difficulty. It's not easy when you're swimming in strange waters. I live here and have had the chance to map the coast. I can "read" the on-line ads. Recognise what are likely to be false or misleading photos. What services are being stuck in as bait and what are actually available. I'll put the phone number into my phone and see if it's one already in my contacts. That'll often tell me which apartment she's working from and I've learnt the good and bad apartments though bitter experience.

Oh, believe me, punters are generally lousy sex. I listen to the conversations between the girls. I've heard the girl's side of reports have been posted on here. Hilarious. Most of them are paying for sex because it's the only way they'll get any. They haven't a clue how to behave around women. Some of them, you wouldn't want to be in the same room without a hazmat suit. Or just general assholes. Do I fit into the same category? I hope not. I just prefer putas to civilians. I was running an English girlfriend a while back. Superannuated beachbunny from the Home Counties, lived here half her life. Ended up dumping her, her yappy dog and her mound of shopping out on the hard shoulder of the peage to Marbella one hot afternoon. I'm not a free taxi service. Or meal ticket. Putas are cheaper and go home.

I do reckon a big club is virtually the last place you're likely to get good sex. The incentives are all wrong. She may be on a 3 week plaza before moving on to the next club to rip off some more mugs. As a foreigner, she'll think you're a tourist she'll never see again. She got the money at the start of the trick and now she just wants to get rid of you with the minimum exertion so she can get back to the bar and snag the next victim. Being a professional puta is all about control. Steering your client safely through the trick. (Safe to her) As soon as they start the practiced routine, I lose interest. Having a pair of them doing it doesn't bear thinking about. I like to hold the initiative. Why I book mostly outcalls. An hour with the option to extend. The money in their hand's the opening ploy. Sit them on the sofa, soft lights, romantic music, put a drink in their hand, let 'them relax for half an hour. Any girl is nervous of a new client. For 50 of their time I now, hopefully, have a happy compliant girl. That gives them half an hour to show whether they're worth extending or send them on their way. Why I prefer indies. You don't have an encargada on their phone asking where they are. If they want to stay past 2 hours, it's up to them. The incentives are in the right direction. A good client is worth cultivating and keeping.

I like fully interactive duos (or trios on occasion!) Can't see the point of the other sort. And there's nothing more fun than a couple hot girls really hot for each other. But, then, I've always been more interested in the voyage than the destination.

This board has changed over the years. Go back six or seven years and there were more guys sharing gotos on interesting girls and places. Couple of them I met up with and still keep in touch with. Maybe there were more punters living here. You club fanboyz seem to have pretty well taken it over. Or are all that are left. From my point of view it's lost much of its value. You can learn where the clubs are by Googling. What you'll find there depends on when you go. I lived for two years ten minutes walk from Estark and its ever useful fag machine. It can change from one night to another. It's part of the circuit of the migratory clubgirls work the whole of Spain. Who is in it today may be different tomorrow. A club with a surplus of talent means girls not earning. So, in the morning, they're gone to the next club. Club reports are no more use than "What I did on my holidays" if they're more than a couple days old. Be good to see people going off on the quest again. Coming back with news of what they've found.

PayForIt

06-25-20, 07:39

Why I book mostly outcalls. An hour with the option to extend. The money in their hand's the opening ploy. Sit them on the sofa, soft lights, romantic music, put a drink in their hand, let 'them relax for half an hour. Any girl is nervous of a new client. For 50 of their time I now, hopefully, have a happy compliant girl. That gives them half an hour to show whether they're worth extending or send them on their way. Why I prefer indies. You don't have an encargada on their phone asking where they are. If they want to stay past 2 hours, it's up to them. The incentives are in the right direction. A good client is worth cultivating and keeping.

This board has changed over the years. Go back six or seven years and there were more guys sharing gotos on interesting girls and places. Couple of them I met up with and still keep in touch with. Maybe there were more punters living here. You club fanboyz seem to have pretty well taken it over. Or are all that are left. From my point of view it's lost much of its value. You can learn where the clubs are by Googling. What you'll find there depends on when you go. I lived for two years ten minutes walk from Estark and its ever useful fag machine. It can change from one night to another. It's part of the circuit of the migratory clubgirls work the whole of Spain. Who is in it today may be different tomorrow. A club with a surplus of talent means girls not earning. So, in the morning, they're gone to the next club. Club reports are no more use than "What I did on my holidays" if they're more than a couple days old. Be good to see people going off on the quest again. Coming back with news of what they've found.The scene you post on outcalls is very appealing and sensible. But it is not an option for me and even if it was, I would only do it if, like you, you actually know the girl. It is bad enough getting bait and switch on an incall. Where I have stood on a doorstep and said "sorry but you are not the girl in the pictures on the website so I'll leave it thanks". That is much harder on outcall. Many years ago I was a regular using outcalls to hotels in London. I abandoned it. So so many times a girl would turn up nothing like the pictures and way overweight. Awful then to turn someone away, and of course at the point, the anticipation of the next hour or so has grown. Result was sometimes having sessions with someone I would not have even contemplated in any club. I am therefore done with outcalls in any scenario.

The "what I did in my holidays" analogy, for me, is too harsh. I make sure I get known in the club by the staff and the regular girls. They talk to each other. Means often that the new girl I want to session soon realises that I a regular client, known by the club, its owners, staff and the girls. And I find that service levels are therefore usually better than if I was an infrequent tourist. But I agree the girls largely grab what they can for the main part and then move on. Always disappointing when a favourite leaves but then that's part of the enjoyment of the clubs. You get a whole new batch to choose from regularly. And if you can have a great time the first time with a girl, the repeat sessions are not poor sex, and lead to mobile numbers and in calls then without any bait and switch concerns.

The Cane

06-25-20, 14:05

The scene you post on outcalls is very appealing and sensible. But it is not an option for me and even if it was, I would only do it if, like you, you actually know the girl. It is bad enough getting bait and switch on an incall. Where I have stood on a doorstep and said "sorry but you are not the girl in the pictures on the website so I'll leave it thanks". That is much harder on outcall. Many years ago I was a regular using outcalls to hotels in London. I abandoned it. So so many times a girl would turn up nothing like the pictures and way overweight. Awful then to turn someone away, and of course at the point, the anticipation of the next hour or so has grown. Result was sometimes having sessions with someone I would not have even contemplated in any club. I am therefore done with outcalls in any scenario.I'm with you 100% on this. Although for me, I include incalls as well. For all the already well-known reasons stated, I never found the escort scene to be consistently satisfactory. I know that had I not discovered the overseas mongering circuits throughout Latin America and Europe, then I never would have become committed to mongerdom.

Andalus Expat

06-26-20, 17:25

The "what I did in my holidays" analogy, for me, is too harsh.And then etc, etc, etc. Which rather proves the point. A club is a venue sells drinks to punters & services to girls. They don't give a monkeys what you do in the rooms. Poetry recitals if it takes your fancy. The girls are the attraction and that's an ever changing feast. Down the thread, you're talking about a RO calls herself Julia in E92. What would have been the chances of finding RO Julia in E92 a week after you've met her & posted on her. Is she still there? Is she still Julia? It's no good going to the club and asking a girl for a goto on RO Julia. They're all Julia and they're all RO if that's what you're looking for. And they're all blonde even if they're visibly brunette. Or vice versa. Xicas rarely give gotos on other xicas. Why would they? What happens in a club tends to be unique to you. It's the nature of the places. Being given the name, number & address of the puta is something to work with.

I can't say I ever had your problems in London. Nor in France or Belgium or even New York. Occasional let down, but not that many. Maybe I just start with better information.

ShooBree

06-26-20, 21:35

I just read on a local forum that there were 15-20 chicas in Estark92 according to the punter who wrote the review. Apparently the club part is closed waiting for more clients / tourists and chicas, as of now it's more like a cafeteria with normal light. Sounds good to me being able to see the girls better.

PayForIt

06-26-20, 23:19

What would have been the chances of finding RO Julia in E92 a week after you've met her & posted on her. Is she still there? Is she still Julia? This tells me you just didn't go to E92 much, and perhaps not many clubs. I have frequented most of the CDS clubs for 20 years and many FKKs in Germany for 8 years. I would say pre lockdown I knew at least 50% of the girls, by name, in E92. The line up there does not change that much. Indeed, it's one thing I would change! New girls make the experience more interesting. Scandalos has always had high turnover. Fontana less, but more than E92. Julia was at E92 for 17 months. She is still Julia when I text her! Not her real name of course which I now have. Ina was there the same time but others (e. G. Alicia ex Fontana) have been there with her group of friends over 2 years and she met Nicole in the club from her 3 years there.

The LU in many FKKs also remains reasonably static. There is a lot of movement but many girls stay in the same club for years. Back to Spain, I have one favourite in Diana Plus in Madrid I have visited in the same club for over 5 years! I have sessioned with these girls very often because they know me, what I like, that I pay well, make sure they have a fun time and they provide fabulous service.

Admittedly, like all, I have had bad experiences. But that's not just about clubs. As I said, my escort experiences have been poor. You say you think you may have started with greater or better info. Probably true. I just went off pictures and reviews and foolishly believed them. Got horribly disappointed when I then met many girls. No such issue in a club on looks. My eyes don't lie to me.😍🤓

This is an example of YMMV / to each their own. I love FKKs best. Sunbathing with over 100 naked women and eating, drinking, playing with them for an entire day or days. Not available in Spain other than villas, so clubs are next best for me. I love the' pool bars in Thailand. Again. Lots of choice, easy atmosphere.

I don't disagree that for many girls in clubs it's all about the cash and next trick. But a bit of hard work on building mutually appreciative "working" relationships reaps rewards on service. I visited an FKK last year with a very experienced fellow monger. He remarked on how many girls knew me, and wanted sessions having been cold with others. It's not because of my looks! It is about establishing understanding of mutual benefits and needs.

More positively, glad to see ShooBrees report of numbers growing at E92. I shall see for myself and report in the next 2 weeks.

Delta Indigo

06-26-20, 23:45

This is an example of YMMV / to each their own. I love FKKs best. Sunbathing with over 100 naked women and eating, drinking, playing with them for an entire day or days. Not available in Spain other than villas, so clubs are next best for me. I love the' pool bars in Thailand. Again. Lots of choice, easy atmosphere.
Are the girls naked in these Villas in Spain, I have just been to two clubs in Spain, Vive and Scandalos and as far as I know there are no clubs in Spain with naked girls like fkks.

Do you have any examples of any of these Villas?

PayForIt

06-27-20, 10:25

Are the girls naked in these Villas in Spain, I have just been to two clubs in Spain, Vive and Scandalos and as far as I know there are no clubs in Spain with naked girls like fkks.

Do you have any examples of any of these Villas?I am no expert on these. Been a couple of times to Villa Walla and Cass Masa both near Milady Palace Marbella. No idea if they are open now. No nudity of a night but I spent one afternoon a few years ago sunbathing at the pool with six topless girls. Nice. Very expensive compared to FKKs. 250 euros / hour even then.

Andalus Expat

06-27-20, 13:32

This tells me you just didn't go to E92 much, and perhaps not many clubs. Maybe a couple times a week. Depends how often we needed fags in the early hours. I tended to see more of the girls outside the club. The Romanas haunted the Cyber Cafe and its attached hair salon on the Paseo. The S. American girls the chiringuito to your left as you approach the playa. Don't recall a Julia. Maria (RO) shared a flat with another Romana on the front. Can't remember her work name. The tall mulata Nigeriana, told people she was Dominican, had a flat in Barca, She was there, summer seasons, for years. Workname Crystal? The only one I've seen recently's the Brasilera with all the silicon work. Rendezvoused with Pepe in E92, one night, with my resident Brasilera in tow. She's been here a couple times. Seen a lot of clubs? I was regularly commuting from here to Northern France. Either north via Madrid or the coast route past Valencia etc. Depends who I wanted to see along the way. I have friends in Burgos and Bordeaux and in Alicante, Sagunto and l'Aveyron. I prefer to do the Spanish driving after sundown and clubs are a good place break the journey, have a beer. Probably all of them that are not too far off track. But for that beer. I don't fuck putas in clubs.

Haven't trawled in Germany since the seventies. Hamburg and the Island (W. Berlin) mostly. Despite having lived a couple hours drive from the frontier. Germany's a country I drive through to get to other places. I find the Germans weird. FKK's! What can you say?

Delta Indigo - "Are the girls naked in these Villas in Spain, I have just been to two clubs in Spain, Vive and Scandalos and as far as I know there are no clubs in Spain with naked girls like FKKs.

Do you have any examples of any of these Villas?"

No. It's not in the culture. Don't think it's in anybody's culture. The was a place I was taken to, near Newark NJ. There are a lot of Germans in Jersey.

I don't know whether it's more information or attitude. I don't get particularly excited by putas as putas. I've known prossies since I was hanging round West End coffee bars in my teens. They're just part of the landscape. Like the number 10 bus. If I miss one, there'll be another along in 5 minutes.

Andalus Expat

06-27-20, 16:47

The ones I know. Villafloresfresca at Cerros de Agilla, Butterflies at Riviera, Linda's Blanca Flor AR Duquesa, whatever the Music Bar at Elviria was calling itself when it retreated to the house behind, the one in Marbella I can never remember the name of but the car can find on its own. (and a few others.) were running at 100€/ hour before Coronapanic set in. Plus free drink on arrival. That's pretty general unless they've something special to offer, because competition. Tentaciones at Chiclana's 90 & I think the place Mia's headed to next week, at Huelva, is the same. 250€'s very special. As good as Milady's? How much is to keep the riff-raff out? Although there's endless riff-raff with money round Puerto Banus. It's hardly Juan-les-Pins, is it?

Haitek

06-28-20, 13:45

There were about 20 girls (mostly Latinas and few Romanians) last night at Scandalo. Not only the terrace but the whole club is open and accessible. No one wears a mask.

Andalus Expat

06-28-20, 16:56

There were about 20 girls (mostly Latinas and few Romanians) last night at Scandalo. Not only the terrace but the whole club is open and accessible. No one wears a mask.Unfortunately, you omitted the most important piece of information. How many punters? 20 girls is going to produce 1500€ in revenue for the club. (20 x75€ room rent.) At a guess, most if not all of that will be swallowed by club staffing costs. Management, security, front of house, bar staff, cleaning, laundry etc. And pre-Coronapanic pricing each girl needs either 1 half hour trick or a handful of drinks bought for her to break even on the shift. The viability of the club will depend on customer spend and net earnings of the girls. You can reckon a girl needs to clear 200€ a day to be worth working there. She could make that in an apartment without the up-front commitment of the room-rent.

Unless you can report either a high turnover of tricks or going across the bar, you're probably not looking at a profitable club. At two weeks past reopening that's not good.

TeddyBears

06-28-20, 17:43

Haitek, ShoeBree.

Thank's for reporting! Sounds very promising for the coming months.

PayForIt

06-29-20, 00:23

Unfortunately, you omitted the most important piece of information. How many punters? 20 girls is going to produce 1500 in revenue for the club. (20 x75 room rent.) At a guess, most if not all of that will be swallowed by club staffing costs. Management, security, front of house, bar staff, cleaning, laundry etc. And pre-Coronapanic pricing each girl needs either 1 half hour trick or a handful of drinks bought for her to break even on the shift. The viability of the club will depend on customer spend and net earnings of the girls. You can reckon a girl needs to clear 200 a day to be worth working there. She could make that in an apartment without the up-front commitment of the room-rent.

Unless you can report either a high turnover of tricks or going across the bar, you're probably not looking at a profitable club. At two weeks past reopening that's not good.No doubt very accurate assessment. But they will ride for some time given previous profitability so let's give it time. It will return and I am delighted to see the whole club open again. Hope E92 is the same. Eagerly awaiting further reports guys.

PayForIt

06-29-20, 00:25

Haitek, ShoeBree.

Thank's for reporting! Sounds very promising for the coming months.+1 and AndalusExpat is right. We punters need to be hitting the clubs and spending to ensure survival. Great to see things slowly recovering. 🙏👍😍👏

ButtLover

06-29-20, 13:44

Hi.

Can anyone confirm that Scandalo opens at noon Monday to Friday?

Regards.

Buttlover.

ShooBree

06-29-20, 17:26

+1 and AndalusExpat is right. We punters need to be hitting the clubs and spending to ensure survival. Great to see things slowly recovering.As things were at Scandalo before the lockdown I don't think it's worth saving. Too high prices considering the lack of BBJ and DFK for me. The chicas weren't hot enough justifying paying 220€/ hour or 110€/30 minutes considering the subpar service.

I hope that the crisis will lead to lower prices, new chicas with better service. Otherwise there are other clubs and escorts from slumi.com.

PayForIt

06-30-20, 00:10

As things were at Scandalo before the lockdown I don't think it's worth saving. Too high prices considering the lack of BBJ and DFK for me. The chicas weren't hot enough justifying paying 220/ hour or 110/30 minutes considering the subpar service.

I hope that the crisis will lead to lower prices, new chicas with better service. Otherwise there are other clubs and escorts from slumi.com.Oh for 100% sure I would have agreed before lockdown. I had reported that I sadly believed my Scandalos days (or rather nights) were done. 220/ hour is Vive prices and the girls are not Vive standard (or anywhere near). But things have changed and I fear that there may not be many clubs which survive the pandemic in Spain. No business survives without punters. So if Scandalos can stay open, it will at least be one option until things improved and there are others.

I'll be on the ground myself in just over a week and will find out for sure where things are at and report on Fontana / Scandalos / E92/ Glass Palace x2.

Andalus Expat

06-30-20, 13:03

Too high prices considering the lack of BBJ and DFK for me.The chicas weren't hot enoughslumi.com.I'm sorry. I'm rather out of touch with the club scene. The Scandalos girls don't do oral without condom? Club policy? Julia, was here, certainly does. Very proficiently. I'd have to go back several years to recall a girl rubbered-up before going down. Apart from in the process of putting one on. I can understand passing on DFK. It's a matter of personal hygiene. From a girl's point of view, a cock in her mouth she's just freshly washed is greatly preferable to the bacteria involved around a strange tongue accompanied by the leftovers of the client's last meal. Fortunate I don't go to clubs, then. I don't like poor quality sex, let alone pay for it.

On the survival of clubs, it's the ones with the biggest overheads will be vulnerable if the reduction of clientele becomes long term. Smaller the club, the easier it is to reduce costs. And depend on the market they're in. Scandalos looks like the most vulnerable for Malaga. But there's a hotel next door, isn't there? Are they part of the same business? That could break either way. Maybe there's cost sharing going on. But hotels have been caned by effectively losing a season's revenue. The hotel might bring the club down.

PayForIt's contention; that previous profitability will enable it to ride the storm, ignores business realities. Was Scandalos profitable before Coronapanic? It's not a given. Clubs are like any other business. They're not a license to print money. If they were, they wouldn't be for long. There'd be competition moving in to share in the printing. He, himself, has commented on the Spanish attitude to economics. Maybe the price rises at Scandalos were part of an attempt to reposition itself in the market because it wasn't profitable at the cheaper end. Pitch at the wealthier clientele, want a better class of girl. Again, remember, the club's selling drinks to punters and services to the girls. It doesn't make money directly out of selling sex. Was it working? Will it still work, post-Coronapanic? Or it was just falling interest by the girls, because it wasn't pulling in the clients for them. No, I know that doesn't make sense. Except to the Spanish. Their sense of entitlement runs deep and slow.

Like I've been trying to explain over previous posts, you guys aren't coming down here to enjoy sex laid on by the Spanish government as part of its social services commitment to randy Brits. You're benefiting from a domestic industry that's remarkably fragile. Yes there will always be putas. Nature abhors a vacuum. But how their services are delivered isn't chiseled in stone.

Ovechkin08

07-04-20, 08:21

I am convinced that most of these clubs are just fronts for shifting drugs and that is a major source of money. I can't remember ever not being asked if I wanted to "party" or if I was looking for "anything else" when I visit clubs in Spain. My guess is that the clubs get a nice cut of the drug sales. The clubs can play dumb if a girl gets caught and just say "we only rent rooms to the girls and can't control what they do with the punters" and my guess is a few local cops are probably paid to turn a blind eye as long as things don't get too out of control. The dealers are likely the same pimps that control the girls and have realized that they can make money off their girls selling sex and also selling drugs to the punters.

PayForIt

07-04-20, 23:36

The Cane

07-05-20, 01:25

ShooBree

07-05-20, 01:50

MagicSheep74

07-05-20, 11:51

I agree.

The clubs make good money on expensive booze, lady drinks and room fees from the girls. Why risk everything for drug money?

But on the other hand, the girls and their pimps can easily want to make some money on the side selling drugs. I always get offered drugs by at least one of the ladies in the clubs. I've read that the clubs want the ladies to sell drugs to make the customers spend more money, the former owner of Scandalo is accused of just that.

I've been given drugs for free at two occasions, it ain't my thing so I threw it away, but I was curious about what they would give me. I've also met a chica who was clearly high on weed after smoking with a client in the room. There are, or used to be, some really shady characters in Scandalo. Back in 2012/2013, two Moroccans and a Nigerian started chatting with me and they had some tickets for buy one drink and get the other for free and clearly knew the some of the girls really well. After a while one of them took up a big stack of 50 bills, not the kind of money regular people are carrying around. They were obviously shady and had some connection to the club considering their drink tickets.A someone once famously said. Cocaine makes you feel like a new man, but the only thing that new man wants, is another line of cocaine!

If I decided to partake if this activity, after asking I could have it in my hands within 5 minutes in any club. Quite often the girl will just phone reception and within 2 minutes it has been delivered to the room.

Its rampant in most of the clubs in Spain, but not in higher prices than you'd pay on the streets. Like was previous said, its not the clubs or the chicas main course of income. Its very simple, when most customers start taking it.

1. They don't want to leave.

2. They can't cum, and extend there time.

3. They get so high, they start to impulse buy. Ladies drinks.

4. Frustration that they can cum, they invite another lady to the room.

End result. Your broke at 5 am, and the girl and club are happy!!

Andalus Expat

07-05-20, 12:40

I have mongered in Spain for 25 years. I've been offered drugs less than 5% of visits to clubs. It happens. More in Madrid and Seville but it is usually more common for S American girls to offer. I very much doubt the clubs get any of the cash or if they do, very little indeed.Second PayForIt's observations on this. Although if you'd requested drugs rather than waiting to be offered, I'd say you'd have got a hit-rate better than 5%.

It's a fallacy based on the usual uninformed assumption that there's a shortage of something & it's possible to get in between the source and the consumer & profit. Can't think of a worse country in Europe to try to do that with drugs. They're pretty well ubiquitous here. Especially in the world putas and their clients operate in. If you're a user, with contacts (any regular user will have contacts) you ring a number & your favourite recreational pharmaceutical will arrive in around half an hour. * There's not even much money in the bottom links in the supply chain, delivers product to the user. Considering the risk involved. Competition doing its usual magic.

And goes with some of the other fallacies surrounding clubs. That they're money laundering fronts. A money laundry is a business has a flow of legitimate cash going through it, you can inject illegitimate cash into, so it can end up in a bank account as legit. Large amounts of cash don't have much value as there's a limited amount of things your successful criminal can buy with it or invest it in. You don't set up a puti club with cash, because everyone you're paying wants payment through the banking system. A lot of the cash going into the club is going to the girls. Who want cash. The cash they pay for rooms is very much on the books, because the club must keep a record of every girl on the premises. A club having girls not on the books, or book entries for girls it can't produce a warm body for is in deep and serious shit when the police turn up for their regular checks. One of the things they're looking for is illegals. Same thing for cash going across the bar. Girl drinks have a receipt so she gets her split at the end of the shift. That'll be checked as well. So what's left isn't much different from any bar in town.

Banger 66

07-09-20, 12:45

Hope all of you fellow members are keeping safe and well?

Just enquiring on the latest information regarding the villas on the CDS, are any of them open like Butterflies or Villa Flores Frescas?

I have tried calling but no answer and LE Coq the'or website is not functioning at this moment in time.

I am looking to come over in August at some point but wondering if it is worth it or should I wait for a few months?

Good to talk to you last week Andalus expat, it was very informative but I know you are not a big fan of the villas.

Thanks for your help.

Banger.

MalagaTony

07-09-20, 19:22

Hey all,

First time poster, longtime reader. I've been mongering on the costa for the last 22 years. I first went to estark in 1998, at at the tender age of 18, and I've been mongering ever since haha. I've been all over the world mongering, and I think I've a good experience in that world. Estark has changed drastically over the years. When I first went to E92, it was the old building, the entrance on the left of the new building. It was 95% South American putas at the time, glorious days. It has changed very much since then, I was on the costa 5 times last year, and visited e92 scandolos & LE coq many times. Estark has too many Romanians now, and some crafty ones too. I have many good and bad stories about e92. Value for money is best in e92. Back in the good times before covid, e92's variety of woman was very good, Penney of 9&10's to pick from and many not so beautiful)).

I like the novelty of the clubs, relax, play some casino, and have a good time. If nothing tickles my fancy, I'll go get a call out to my home.

I enjoy the debates that go on here, and I agree with a lot of it.

I would split going to a club and getting a call out 50/50. Plenty to choose from.

I am flying to the costa Monday morning, so I will report here during next week and let ye guys know what the situation is there and at other clubs.

Happy Mongering all.

Haitek

07-10-20, 08:09

Hi guys, is LE Coq in Benalmadena? It's a small club like a piano club, right?

Andalus Expat

07-10-20, 08:58

Good to talk to you last week Andalus expat, it was very informative but I know you are not a big fan of the villas..Can't imagine where you got that idea from. Especially as I recommended Butterflies to you.

Villas are a good first step off the club circuit, if you want to be more adventurous. There's usually a variety of girls to choose from and the incentives stack up better. Setting up a villa's a considerable investment. Unlike clubs, they are in the business of selling sex. Not just accommodation for girls. So they do have an interest in ensuring they give you a good time with them. A villa prospers on having a regular customer base that returns. The only reason I don't use villas much is that I can't be bothered with the trouble of going out. I like my pizza delivered.

Both Villafloresfresca and Butterflies are open but I see Butterflies are using a different number now, in their advert in the Euroweekly.

At the moment there are a lot of girls around but not much in the way of work for them. They're getting less than half the amount of bookings they were this time last year. Unfortunately this isn't yet translating into lowering prices. Most have convinced themselves that any day now it'll return to the pre-Coronapanic "normal". Doesn't mean one can't cut deals though. Although it's a lot easier if you live here and know the girls. I tend to go for extending the sessions and for a couple of hundred euros have had girls stay all night. They're having a good time so why go go back to an apartment and wait a phone not to ring? They can do that here.

Yesterday I visited the Guadalorce industrial estate. No, not for the reason some of you do. I'm interested in wholesalers. Couple I know well told me turnover's way down on last year. And it certainly didn't seem very busy. Coronarecession continues to work its way through the Spanish economy. Got some good bargains, though.

PayForIt

07-11-20, 10:22

So finally got to visit E92 last night. As previously reported the club / bar part of the premises is not open. It is a truly ridiculous decision. Why? Because the apparent rationale of the police is that it would encourage too many people to attend the club and there would be insufficient social distancing. As a result, the casino area and area around the small bar are rammed with people not 6 inches apart. In any event, it is a brothel. Men are largely there to get physical. Very difficult to do that whilst socially distancing. Common sense would dictate either to force the club to stay closed, or instead to open up the whole area to allow as much space for people to congregate in as possible. But then common sense. Why would they embrace that?

Sandra (nice receptionist with purple hair) believes the club may be allowed to open fully at the end of next week. I hope this is correct as currently it really does not work too well.

There were 35 girls working. Many of them regulars from the past but many new girls and a noticeable change in balance of EE and South American girls. In the past few years Scandalos has very much taken on the mantle of being the home for South American zorras. E92 has for some years been the home of EE girls with some occasional exceptions. At least that is my experience. Last night was only one visit of course but there were a large number of Brasileras, x2 Cubans (one very pretty black girl with a good body) and several Columbian girls. It made the choices better than normal.

There is a blonde Brazilian girl, Sabrina, big rimmed glasses, not especially facially pretty, but what a fantastic gym body. Toned, six pack stomach and a fabulous ass. Could not get near her all night. She was in and out of rooms like a yo-yo. I may need to visit one night and literally sit at the foot of the stairs to catch her coming out of a room.

Sessioned only with Maria, blonde, very pretty Ro who I have enjoyed time with previously. Great fun, knows what she is doing and takes pride in ensuring you get a great time. 2 hours in the room with her having lost a small fortune on the roulette first. She was keen to bring a friend in. I told her if she managed to get Sabrina in there would be a good tip! She tried (in vain) and the friend she lives with (outside the club) was also busy. No threesome. Didn't matter – a good time was had.

An unfortunately large contingent of very loud, very drunk, very young English guys hit the bar. They were too great in number for the security to seriously consider throwing out. For 10 minutes it looked like this could result in some serious trouble, but happily their youthful desires got the better of them and literally within 20 minutes of being in the club every one of them had selected their girl and off they went to the rooms. I was impressed with their complete lack of interest in selection – basically the first girl that went to each of them scored a success. These young bucks just needed a hole of any type – it clearly did not matter what the rest of the package was like. No discriminating for size / age / colour (in many respects good to see) and off they went. I overheard only one delightful question "can you take a pounding for a full hour?" Like an experienced professional the young Columbian girl responded that she could, loved someone to fuck fast for as long as possible and she was happy for him to cum as many times as he wanted in the hour. Of course, she knew, as I did when listening, that this guy would last all of 6 minutes tops, might take 5 to recover, go again and she would be out of the room inside 20 minutes without the "hour of pounding". I was still playing roulette in the bar no more than 25 minutes after he had gone to the room and inevitably he was back in the bar. The release of tension had clearly dampened their boisterous behaviour and they left as quickly as they came (pun intended).

One of the reasons I like E92 normally is the ability to move about. If the chicas in the casino area are too much / pestering, it's easy to walk along the corridor into the / club bar area. And vice versa. The current arrangement does not allow for this – no access to that corridor at all. It means that the area where all punters and girls are crammed into by the small cafeteria bar has no real escape. I don't like it at all but hey, I will take it over there being no club open at all.

Two final things. First, girl drinks have increased now in price to 30 euros instead of 20. Secondly, speaking to many of the ladies it was clear that there is a real belief that a second lockdown is coming on the CDS – they think likely in late August / September. I have no idea where they get this from, or how they can predict when, but it is very much what the majority believe is on the horizon. Perhaps they are just worrying. A lot of the girls were complaining about the lockdown having "emptied" them out of their savings / cash and needing to start again.

All in all, a fun night out, enhanced by the energetic and skilful Maria, which made up for the restrictions the layout caused. I hope to get to Fontana and Scandalos in the next few weeks and will of course report. Currently, the options in E92 are plentiful, and as stated above, a good mix of nationalities to suit most choices. And a session with Sabrina and that amazing body still awaits.

The Cane

07-11-20, 11:27

Pepe1976X

07-11-20, 15:43

So finally got to visit E92 last night......
Sandra (nice receptionist with purple hair) believes the club may be allowed to open fully at the end of next week. I hope this is correct as currently it really does not work too well.

There were 35 girls working. Many of them regulars from the past but many new girls and a noticeable change in balance of EE and South American girls..........
.An unfortunately large contingent of very loud, very drunk, very young English guys hit the bar. They were too great in number for the security to seriously consider throwing out
.......One of the reasons I like E92 normally is the ability to move about. If the chicas in the casino area are too much / pestering, it's easy to walk along the corridor into the / club bar area. And vice versa. The current arrangement does not allow for this no access to that corridor at all. It means that the area where all punters and girls are crammed into by the small cafeteria bar has no real escape. I don't like it at all but hey, I will take it over there being no club open at all..Hi PayFror It,

You are an absolute star! Well done for your report and your big night out! But playing the E92 Roulette. Are you mad! Putting all the Putas back into the original bar area must have brought memories back from the glory days of Estark especially having so many Latinas in the rosta! All they need to do is reinstate that rockery fountain that used to be in the middle of the club floor Lo!

In my experience the canny door manager security always lets the Putas and their skillful arts difuse the high energy boys! The promise and potential of the power of the pussy can cause but also stop much fighting! The experienced door men save themselves as being heroes to throw out the drunks that the Putas has just emptied his wallet of hard earnt hoping he would not notice as he was so paraletic!

Just to finish off what was the general level on the famous 1-10 scale of WG plying their trade?

Apart from the WG mentioned were the Putas getting many clients upstairs?

Apart from the rowdy Brit. Element were there many other drinkers and clients?

IMO Spain cannot afford another lockdown. They are on the cusp of a huge recession and any further outbreaks will be handled locally or even ignored by those not highly vulnerable! So much of their income is tourist based. They can't shut the country again!

Was much money being spent across the bar? And ladies drinks E30.00 did anyone even consider spending almost 1/2 the cost of a Bang on a drink for a WG?

Am told Spain is still economically only operating at 45% of previous levels! Did the SPs discuss their work levels or customer availability?

Finally what swas the price range for entertainment upstairs being offered at? Their opening gambit of course before negotiations?

Regards and again thanks for post. Pep.

CostaTrops

07-11-20, 19:22

Evening everyone.

I'm flying into Malaga tomorrow for a week. Could anyone kindly recommend a villa / house that's open and worth a visit!

I don't want to have to go to Scandalos. I'll write up a decent report on wherever I end up. Or does anyone fancy meeting up?

Many thanks.

PayForIt

07-11-20, 22:34

Hi PayFror It,

You are an absolute star! Well done for your report and your big night out! But playing the E92 Roulette. Are you mad! Putting all the Putas back into the original bar area must have brought memories back from the glory days of Estark especially having so many Latinas in the rosta! All they need to do is reinstate that rockery fountain that used to be in the middle of the club floor Lo!

In my experience the canny door manager security always lets the Putas and their skillful arts difuse the high energy boys! The promise and potential of the power of the pussy can cause but also stop much fighting! The experienced door men save themselves as being heroes to throw out the drunks that the Putas has just emptied his wallet of hard earnt hoping he would not notice as he was so paraletic!

Just to finish off what was the general level on the famous 1-10 scale of WG plying their trade?

Apart from the WG mentioned were the Putas getting many clients upstairs?

Apart from the rowdy Brit. Element were there many other drinkers and clients?

IMO Spain cannot afford another lockdown. They are on the cusp of a huge recession and any further outbreaks will be handled locally or even ignored by those not highly vulnerable! So much of their income is tourist based. They can't shut the country again!

Was much money being spent across the bar? And ladies drinks E30.00 did anyone even consider spending almost 1/2 the cost of a Bang on a drink for a WG?

Am told Spain is still economically only operating at 45% of previous levels! Did the SPs discuss their work levels or customer availability?

Finally what swas the price range for entertainment upstairs being offered at? Their opening gambit of course before negotiations?

Regards and again thanks for post. Pep.Thanks.

Answers:

1. Yes I'm mad playing the roulette but haven't done this for ages so wanted a party.

2. Rating 1-10 no higher than 5/6. I would have only roomed with about 5 or 6 of the girls but this in part is because I've done that with Bianca / Nicole / Maria / Daniella / Ada / Gabriella. All there and though I like them all would not repeat other than with Maria. Of the rest the Brazilians were the best. Isabella (blonde) quite pretty. Of the remainder only banging body Sabrina was really to my liking. But you could have made a case for others. Overall the standard was not high. But then I don't consider it ever really is amazing at any CDS club. There is no Vive Madrid equivalent IMHO. Scandalos has its prices (almost) but not talent. But I like E92 for its pricing, the roulette (when I win) and that because the girl controls room time they will overrun with no real quibble.

3. Plenty of punters were going to rooms. No issue for the girls with that.

4. No second lockdown. Hmmm. 852 new cases on Friday and 5 deaths. They all believe it is coming.

5. Money across the bar. Plenty - a need to queue! Only 2 staff. I only saw one idiot buying 30 euro girl drinks. He bought three. That would be me😊 for Maria. Crazy but I was in party mood.

6. All the girls I spoke to complained about the lack of money / punters / closure / lockdown / fear of a second and punters trying to haggle low rates when the girls have really struggled financially and are desperate.

7. This meant that I felt too mean to haggle and didn't. I normally get 2 hours for 250. I don't do 30 min sessions at all. I find them a waste of time and money. The girl just wants you in and out and rarely relaxes or gives great service. If I don't know the girl I will say I will take an hour at the normal €150 but if I extend for 1 hour more I want it at €250 all in. Not bad for them as I guarantee one drink so another €30 now. But I didn't even do that last night. I don't think they are pulling a fast one. They have clearly struggled and are struggling. One of the girls (I won't name her) said she had taken to working the street in Malaga for the first time in her working career and was terrified.

Hope the above helps. If you can get there I would do so quickly in case the dreaded second lockdown comes.

PayForIt

07-12-20, 07:10

Nice report by this intrepid monger. Of course, we have come to expect nothing less from him. Although, I must confess my jealously as I remain barred from travel in my own infected country.Thanks. It did feel a strange mix to be resuming mongering in a club environment instead of having to do escorts (which I really do not like due to bait and switch). Felt great to grab some normal life back. But then it didn't feel that “normal”. Huge plastic screens between each seat in the casino felt very anti-social and served as a reminder of the future. Bar staff wearing face masks. 😷The wearing of which in Spain, in public is becoming a very strict requirement: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8505303/British-tourists-Ibiza-Majorca-wear-masks-Saturday-face-90-fine.html.

But however much these interruptions have brought change to what was previously normal, it was still great to be able to return to this fun. It makes us all realise that we take everyday things for granted. It also made me appreciate, perhaps more than ever before, the tough life of a working girl. One of those I was talking to (who I know well, have previously sessioned with and trust not to be "trying it on") was explaining how many of the girls with young children, and families dependent on them sending home money, were really struggling because of course there was no financial help during lockdown, no work, and any previous savings were needed for rent, food etc. So this has "emptied" the girls. You would not have known it from their demeanour in the bar. They know that punters don't go for miserably unhappy faces🥺, nor ostensible desperation. But there was a bit of a feel vibe like that and whereas previously I think the group of drunk young guys would have found most of the girls turning up their noses, preferring to wait for less obnoxious punters, those girls who had been getting little or no attention in the bar surrounded their easy prey quickly.

I felt quite sorry for the working girls on Friday. I didn't fully answer Pep's question about what rates punters were getting to go to rooms. I did hear one guy negotiate 120 for an hour with a girl who I had not seen go to a room at all. Let's not forget this: the girls who work at the club are paying 75 daily “rent” to work there. That is still the case even if they don't live in, and if they want to work there for a week they pay for 7 days even if they don't work every day. So they are “down” €75 for any day they don’t work. It is therefore critical for them to get at least one 30 min punter a day just to break even. It was clear to me that for some girls, they would do deals just to get that. Maybe I'm getting too old, or just soft, but I don't want to take advantage of a group of people by bartering the lowest price in these very difficult times. Like all of us, I hate being ripped off. But at 150/ hour this club is far from a rip off. For sure, P6 is available outside of clubs for less. But then if you want to be in an environment with a line up it is a price worth paying. Normal line up at E92 (confirmed by Sandra the receptionist, is 60-75 girls). 35 was therefore less than half their max quota. But to be in a club having a few beers and surrounded by 35 girls happy to fuck you (for cash) is a great experience and for me, far better than escorts, outcalls with bait and switch, or even the villas where there may be 5-10 girls but prices can be 250+/ hour (current price at Casamasa). So for once, I felt very uncomfortable trying to barter down the girl I chose to go to the room with. It was clear to me that once she knew I was buying 2 hours, and 3 drinks (she was making good money from me that night and as such, she would ensure her service was the best she could give. And it was. Like everything else in life. If you give a lot you hopefully usually find you get a lot back. Not always, but mostly. I didn't feel ripped off at all. I knew exactly what I was doing, was not getting hassled or up sold, I made it clear I would be a profitable (and hopefully fun) punter, in return for which I expected good service with no upselling. I think when you are known in any club the upselling largely dies anyway.

I think the bar would have been better off reducing girls drinks 🥃🍹🍷prices from 20 to 10 instead of raising them. I know the club needs to make money, but I also think a lot of the punters would have easily been persuaded to part with 10 for girls drinks whereas having raised them, they killed that trade and source of income completely. Well not 100% because of course like a kid in a sweetshop I was buying them for Maria! 🍸🍸🍸 But I also wanted to "support" the club/show some appreciation for their efforts to survive this. A few drinks isn't going to keep it open, but if someone had said to me during lockdown that I would be able to return to E92 but only paying an entry fee of 50 I would still have gone. So paying 90 for drinks between club / girl was not a big ask. I was very appreciative of being able to return to mongering like this. But as discussed in this forum with Andalus Expat previously. This hiking of prices (the drinks in this case) is a very Spanish attitude to economic crisis. Instead of "reduce prices to drive in traffic or increase spending customers" it is "let's get the most out of the few who will pay". Very stupid economics but it's their mentality (the Clubs not the girls). 10 drinks would have meant punters buying girl drinks all night. The bar takings would have been significantly up, girls more merry, cash in the tills. Instead? 90 from me, split with the girl, which meant club takings from drinks almost zero for the night.

The club owner of E92 (and others) should also think more laterally. E92 and Scandalos both have excellent gymnasiums (for the girls. Most of whom do not use them🤸🏽*♂️🧘*♀️). Open them to the paying public. 🏋🏻*♂️Charge even 10 entry. What a great experience to be working out amongst those working girls who like to look after their bodies! Seeing them in their skimpy gym attire etc. I have little doubt I would be one choosing to do my cardio horizontally (if I was in the gym seeing Sabrina work on those abs and glutes! I'd be offering an immediate retreat to her room, mutual shower and cardio on the bed. But I suspect many other guys would use the gym facilities. I have used it once in E92 with permission some time ago. Excellent but was almost empty.

They could even keep it open of at night. Punters would use the gym, shower, then move into the bar / with the girls. The gym at FKK Artemis (Berlin) is well used. Gives another reason to spend longer in the club. Before now, I've gone to Artemis, had an hour in the room with a girl, then gone for a workout to recover (refraction) before returning for round two. Just a thought of another way to drive in some income. Much needed income for these clubs to survive. And as the facilities are already there why not generate income from them? But instead "no. Let's put up the drinks prices". Great. Not!

The Cane. Hope you get to travel soon, I have no idea if Sabrina would partake in your own personal preference, but trust me, that incredibly toned ass is a sight for sore eyes! Sadly mine didn't see enough of it. I 100% intend to put that right!

The Cane

07-12-20, 12:25

I think the bar would have been better off reducing girls drinks 🥃🍹🍷prices from 20 to 10 instead of raising them. I know the club needs to make money, but I also think a lot of the punters would have easily been persuaded to part with 10 for girls drinks whereas having raised them, they killed that trade and source of income completely. Well not 100% because of course like a kid in a sweetshop I was buying them for Maria! 🍸🍸🍸 But I also wanted to "support" the club/show some appreciation for their efforts to survive this. A few drinks isn't going to keep it open, but if someone had said to me during lockdown that I would be able to return to E92 but only paying an entry fee of 50 I would still have gone. So paying 90 for drinks between club / girl was not a big ask. I was very appreciative of being able to return to mongering like this. But as discussed in this forum with Andalus Expat previously. This hiking of prices (the drinks in this case) is a very Spanish attitude to economic crisis. Instead of "reduce prices to drive in traffic or increase spending customers" it is "let's get the most out of the few who will pay". Very stupid economics but it's their mentality (the Clubs not the girls). 10 drinks would have meant punters buying girl drinks all night. The bar takings would have been significantly up, girls more merry, cash in the tills. Instead? 90 from me, split with the girl, which meant club takings from drinks almost zero for the night.Yes, instead of raising prices they should be coming up with incentives to entice customers to come back in droves and spend money. And business economics don't do that when you raise prices up and up and up! A price of 30 euros for a drink is too steep, and starts to make a club look and feel too much like a clip joint. It's puts the girls in an uncomfortable place for asking, and the monger in an uncomfortable place by paying. And the club knows it too. It's best to keep all prices reasonable as that puts everybody in a comfort zone that keeps the money flowing. I agree that a standard price of 30 euros for lady drink is excessive. I won't be buying too many. Feel sorry for the tutes? Nope! Who the hell in the world feels sorry for me and will help me survive? Nobody! That's 100% up to me. No 30 euro lady drinks, unless I'm feeling in a really good mood, and then only one LOL!

TeddyBears

07-12-20, 20:40

I would like to echo the compliments on your reports PFI always very informative and well written, and a lot of common sense I would like to add.

As you mentioned it seems a bit strange / stupid to not open the club part at E92 when they should try to avoid crowded spaces. And to raise the cost to €30 for lady drinks is almost certain to be contra productive in my mind, a few years back I used to buy a lot of drinks and sometimes a few bottles of champagne as well at these kind of clubs, mainly at Scandalo and Vive but I have almost stopped doing it because it simply is to expensive at those clubs so I don't think it's wise of E92 to follow in their footsteps even if they are still cheaper than mentioned clubs.

Good to hear that there are a better ratio of Latin girls at the moment as they are my preferred choice.

Would be interesting to know how Scandalo is doing at the moment as well.

Andalus Expat

07-13-20, 11:42

It is indeed a business no-brainer. With current Estark mark-up of customer drinks across the bar at around a 1000% there would be adequate room to react to the post-Covidpanic realities by adjusting prices to hit that sweet-spot of turnover maximises revenue. If pre-Covidpanic pricing was ever set on that basis. Which it no-doubt wasn't. More likely they were prices picked out of the air as the highest they could screw out of a punter for any individual drink. The increased prices for the girl drinks will no doubt have been arrived at on the same basis. The Spanish do not do what could be recognised as business economics.

PayForIt reports gloomy conversations with the girls over levels of earnings. Not sure if that captures even the half of it. I've a girl has taken to spending the weekends with me rather than sit at home waiting for the phone not to ring. She normally made enough to rent a decent flat, drive a nice car and have a good lifestyle. She has or had a sizable book of regulars. She got precisely one client for half an hour between midday Friday and this morning. 50€. Few of the girls I know are doing any better. You're seeing a lot of S. American girls in Estark because the E. Europeans could and did go home and are staying there. The Latinas didn't have that option. The game's on the rocks across inland Spain as well as the coasts. They've come down here because the Costa del S has been good to them in the past and hope springs eternal. But their thinking isn't any different from Estark's. There's enormous reluctance to do the obvious thing, cut prices and compete for what work there is. Occasionally they'll luck into a punter with a few hundred to blow. Mostly they don't. The trouble is, the stories they tell each other. The places they were where clients were queuing up for their services. Working through ten clients in a shift, pah-pah-pah and rolling in money. No doubt it did actually happen. And they think they'll find some magic place where it will happen again. Maybe tomorrow.

And I don't think we've seen the worst of it, yet. There's still some deferred demand being worked through as client Coronaviras health risk fears recede. The long term effects of lockdown aren't showing because there's still government short term economic rescue packages operating and we don't yet know what businesses are going to survive. It's obvious a lot of them are currently operating at a loss. A restaurant with only half the tables occupied on a holiday season weekend just isn't viable. They were barely scraping through last year, full. Ask anyone who owns a restaurant, here, how tough the restaurant game is. There's going to be a lot of people out of jobs. Estark's going to be no exception. What it was like on Friday night does not tell you the situation on Monday when the Spanish are back in their working week and not hanging round puticlubs at 2:00 AM. As far as I can see, our tourist season is dead in the water. It's far from certain there'll be one next year. The northern countries supply the tourists have their own economic problems. But I see little sign of the Spanish actually adjusting to any of this. They're still stumbling along waiting for things to return to "normal". I'd say Spain's on fast rewind to becoming a poor country again.

Rio Fan 1

07-13-20, 12:14

I would like to echo the compliments on your reports PFI always very informative and well written, and a lot of common sense I would like to add.

As you mentioned it seems a bit strange / stupid to not open the club part at E92 when they should try to avoid crowded spaces. And to raise the cost to 30 for lady drinks is almost certain to be contra productive in my mind, a few years back I used to buy a lot of drinks and sometimes a few bottles of champagne as well at these kind of clubs, mainly at Scandalo and Vive but I have almost stopped doing it because it simply is to expensive at those clubs so I don't think it's wise of E92 to follow in their footsteps even if they are still cheaper than mentioned clubs.

Good to hear that there are a better ratio of Latin girls at the moment as they are my preferred choice.

Would be interesting to know how Scandalo is doing at the moment as well.I agree about waste of money to pay a drink lady. Anyone was at Sandalo? Curious to learn if is working half service like E92.

PayForIt

07-13-20, 15:56

So, after a night of rest after the E92 exploits headed for my previous favourite Fontana. Had been here in February pre-lockdown and was really disappointed. Ended up having a storming night at Club Cleofas, Campamento (close to La Linea / Gibraltar) instead playing pool and later potting pinks in the room with two very nice chicas! Not sure if potting browns was available but not really my bag so didn't ask.

I knew from information at E92 that one of my long time favourites, curly blonde Alicia, Ro, was back at Fontana, so felt like I had a banker if no other talent took my fancy.

Got to the club far later than I had intended. I like to do my mongering between 9 pm and 2 am at the very latest. I'm obviously getting too old for the 5 am finishes which wreck my next day. But a prior business requirement earlier in the day (even on a Sunday!) prevented earlier attendance. Got there just before midnight. The club was open but with only 14 working girls. Far fewer than normal at Fontana. Alicia was there, big hugs and exchanges of relief at having survived Covid (at least thus far!)

Over the years I have had several threesomes with Alicia over the years, she is excellent alone or in company and we did our usual tour of the bar looking for a possible playmate. She is great at giving guidance on good performers and knows my general types and likes.

Two very tall, very striking girls looked impressive. Learned they (allegedly) are sisters, from Morocco (one didn't look like that to me). Imposing looking ladies. Good figures and must be all of 6 ft tall at least in heels. Both with long dark hair, good (if not stunning) figures, but smaller natural boobs. Very tempting but was informed by another punter in the club that he had tried these ladies, that they would not accept 30 lady drinks. Only 50 drinks, and they are fans of additional "enhancers" in the room of the type that require rolled notes. I have absolutely no idea if this information was completely false, and contemplated giving the girls a shot, but it looked like they came as a pair and I wasn't taking 3 girls to the room. It transpired that they were not joined at the hip, as I noticed, whilst sharing a drink with Alicia that two young English guys came in, and the taller of the sisters, long brunette hair, went to the room with one of the English guys whilst the other considered, but ultimately rejected not the other sister but another blonde (with a good figure). Of the 14 working ladies 7 were very overweight, and for me, 3 or 4 out of 10 at most so non-starters. But in addition to the lovely Alicia, a really good looking young brunette, very slim, very pretty, a good 8/10 at least took a seat at the bar. Alicia believed her to be new that day. With the blonde the 2nd English guy rejected, the two Moroccan sisters, Alicia, and now the very pretty brunette, there were 5 girls in the club at 7/10+ And one other a little overweight but very facially pretty. So options were more than reasonable for a quiet Sunday night. In the end most of us only take one or two to rooms, so there isn't a need for 20 stunners unless its a sausage fest at the club. It most definitely was not. There were a total of 9 punters including me whilst I was in the bar.

As the clocked ticked to gone 1 am I decided on only an hour (unusual for me) with Alicia alone. She did not disappoint at all. Indeed she never gives anything less than 110% and is concerned to make sure her customer has a good time. Which I did.

Lady drinks, like E92, minimum 30 again. I won't repeat, but do echo the previous contributions about this in the forum. Just stupid and puts people off. One way around this is to buy one drink (if you feel obliged) and then if you want to continue the party, just slip the girl 20 when nobody is watching, she buys her own drink for 10 and keeps the change. She ends up 5 worse off but with a drink in her hand and if she wants to party she'll do this a couple of times. Many refuse because if caught they think the club would oust them. At the moment the clubs need every girl they can get. One way to recoup lost income appears to be the provision of the sheets etc. So in February (and before) 1 hour at Fontana was 180 of which 5 was for the sheets and 175 for the girl. Now that's changed to 150 for the girl and 30 for sheets. Seriously? 30? I am thinking of creating a new "sheets for you" business. I can undercut and make a fortune. But perhaps this is a way of creating balance given what I set out below.

A shout out for the owner of Fontana. Not that I know him but Alicia told me what a great guy he is. Unlike in other clubs, where the girls pay their daily fee whether they work or not, and often are not fed as part of the price, the owner of Fontana lets them have days off, even if still sleeping in the club without paying to be there, feeds them and with some of the girls who stayed there during lockdown, ensured they were fed and stayed for free whilst the club was closed. In the unlikely event he is reading this: Good man 👍👍 Proud of you and will ensure I will want to continue to support your club (even despite the 30 lady drinks).

So another club open, no silly sectioning off like in E92. Quiet, but it was a Sunday and with some very reasonable options again. More so than were available pre lockdown in February.

I have Scandalos, Glass Palace Estepona and Cleofas (again) all on my list to explore before leaving the CDS this time but I suspect my next outing may not be until the weekend now.

MalagaTony

07-13-20, 18:05

So another club open, no silly sectioning off like in E92. Quiet, but it was a Sunday and with some very reasonable options again. More so than were available pre lockdown in February.

I have Scandalos, Glass Palace Estepona and Cleofas (again) all on my list to explore before leaving the CDS this time but I suspect my next outing may not be until the weekend now.Super reports PayforIt, great to know some clubs are back open and good times start for me tomorrow, I'll be on the costa for 3 months. So first week I'll visit most clubs to get a feel for what's happening. E92's situation sounds awful if the club is full. I'll visit tomorrow night and it should be nice and quiet I've never been to Fontana club so I will definitely visit there this week.

Having gangs of young fellas from England in e92 doesn't sound very appealing especially in the small part of club. They have to surely open up the larger area for safety, makes zero sense having it closed. With their record of the virus.

I will report what some of the clubs are like during the week, happy mongering.

MalagaTony

07-15-20, 17:16

Back now on CDS, strange post corona atmosphere, glad to see all members of public wearing facemasks.

So I went to e92 on Tuesday night. Got there around 11 pm, very little punters, Around 25-30 putas, lots of new faces, mostly S American. Seen an old fav of mine on the way in having a cigarette outside. Brunette Ro, ended up spending a wonderful 2 hours with her.

The club itself has a weird vibe to it, as PayforIt said, the main part of club is closed and everyone is rammed into the old part bar.

I said to the Barman that 30 drinks was crazy, he mentioned it was management trying to make an extra buck. He gave me a free shot of tequila with my drinks, so fair play to him)).

I will visit LE coq dior tonight and maybe hit up e92 again, I want to test drive 1 or 2 of those S American chicas.

Nomeymom

07-15-20, 21:53

TeddyBears

07-16-20, 01:36

Hey guys,

I've been going E92 for around ten years now. Just reached the CDS and was wondering whether to hit the club however I'm worried about Covid-19. Does anyone else think its risky? I'm horny as fuck though but don't want to risk giving it to my parents who I'm staying with.

Also interested in the selection of girls.

F**king love shagging in that place would be a shame to come here and not do one.Hello!

If you are that worried to catch the virus then you probably shouldn't be visiting a crowded club and maybe not any girls at all, just saying!

But you have an other alternative in www.secretgarden.sexy this is our forum member Andalus Expat's site? And if I am not mistaken Andalus Expat can vouch for these women's information on the site are accurate. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Costapunta

07-17-20, 12:02

Thanks for the great posts PFI! Interesting stuff.

As ever, the Spanish logic of putting prices up and raping the few clients they have left in order to compensate for the decline in business never ceases to amaze me. Talk about a 'sales prevention device'!

Interesting times in the clubs it seems.

Apparently you can now get face masks with a sort of cat flap thing in front. Might be handy for the girls who prefer 'covered BJs' .

Keep up the good work.

CP.

So, after a night of rest after the E92 exploits headed for my previous favourite Fontana. Had been here in February pre-lockdown and was really disappointed. Ended up having a storming night at Club Cleofas, Campamento (close to La Linea / Gibraltar) instead playing pool and later potting pinks in the room with two very nice chicas! Not sure if potting browns was available but not really my bag so didn't ask.

I knew from information at E92 that one of my long time favourites, curly blonde Alicia, Ro, was back at Fontana, so felt like I had a banker if no other talent took my fancy.

Got to the club far later than I had intended. I like to do my mongering between 9 pm and 2 am at the very latest. I'm obviously getting too old for the 5 am finishes which wreck my next day. But a prior business requirement earlier in the day (even on a Sunday!) prevented earlier attendance. Got there just before midnight. The club was open but with only 14 working girls. Far fewer than normal at Fontana. Alicia was there, big hugs and exchanges of relief at having survived Covid (at least thus far!)

Over the years I have had several threesomes with Alicia over the years, she is excellent alone or in company and we did our usual tour of the bar looking for a possible playmate. She is great at giving guidance on good performers and knows my general types and likes.

Two very tall, very striking girls looked impressive. Learned they (allegedly) are sisters, from Morocco (one didn't look like that to me). Imposing looking ladies. Good figures and must be all of 6 ft tall at least in heels. Both with long dark hair, good (if not stunning) figures, but smaller natural boobs. Very tempting but was informed by another punter in the club that he had tried these ladies, that they would not accept 30 lady drinks. Only 50 drinks, and they are fans of additional "enhancers" in the room of the type that require rolled notes. I have absolutely no idea if this information was completely false, and contemplated giving the girls a shot, but it looked like they came as a pair and I wasn't taking 3 girls to the room. It transpired that they were not joined at the hip, as I noticed, whilst sharing a drink with Alicia that two young English guys came in, and the taller of the sisters, long brunette hair, went to the room with one of the English guys whilst the other considered, but ultimately rejected not the other sister but another blonde (with a good figure). Of the 14 working ladies 7 were very overweight, and for me, 3 or 4 out of 10 at most so non-starters. But in addition to the lovely Alicia, a really good looking young brunette, very slim, very pretty, a good 8/10 at least took a seat at the bar. Alicia believed her to be new that day. With the blonde the 2nd English guy rejected, the two Moroccan sisters, Alicia, and now the very pretty brunette, there were 5 girls in the club at 7/10+ And one other a little overweight but very facially pretty. So options were more than reasonable for a quiet Sunday night. In the end most of us only take one or two to rooms, so there isn't a need for 20 stunners unless its a sausage fest at the club. It most definitely was not. There were a total of 9 punters including me whilst I was in the bar.

As the clocked ticked to gone 1 am I decided on only an hour (unusual for me) with Alicia alone. She did not disappoint at all. Indeed she never gives anything less than 110% and is concerned to make sure her customer has a good time. Which I did.

Lady drinks, like E92, minimum 30 again. I won't repeat, but do echo the previous contributions about this in the forum. Just stupid and puts people off. One way around this is to buy one drink (if you feel obliged) and then if you want to continue the party, just slip the girl 20 when nobody is watching, she buys her own drink for 10 and keeps the change. She ends up 5 worse off but with a drink in her hand and if she wants to party she'll do this a couple of times. Many refuse because if caught they think the club would oust them. At the moment the clubs need every girl they can get. One way to recoup lost income appears to be the provision of the sheets etc. So in February (and before) 1 hour at Fontana was 180 of which 5 was for the sheets and 175 for the girl. Now that's changed to 150 for the girl and 30 for sheets. Seriously? 30? I am thinking of creating a new "sheets for you" business. I can undercut and make a fortune. But perhaps this is a way of creating balance given what I set out below.

A shout out for the owner of Fontana. Not that I know him but Alicia told me what a great guy he is. Unlike in other clubs, where the girls pay their daily fee whether they work or not, and often are not fed as part of the price, the owner of Fontana lets them have days off, even if still sleeping in the club without paying to be there, feeds them and with some of the girls who stayed there during lockdown, ensured they were fed and stayed for free whilst the club was closed. In the unlikely event he is reading this: Good man 👍👍 Proud of you and will ensure I will want to continue to support your club (even despite the 30 lady drinks).

So another club open, no silly sectioning off like in E92. Quiet, but it was a Sunday and with some very reasonable options again. More so than were available pre lockdown in February.

I have Scandalos, Glass Palace Estepona and Cleofas (again) all on my list to explore before leaving the CDS this time but I suspect my next outing may not be until the weekend now.

Nomeymom

07-17-20, 13:50

Has anyone shagged Noelia or Alina of this website?

Any reviews.

Might go 92 tonight.

Thedream

07-18-20, 10:13

Has anyone shagged Noelia or Alina of this website?

Any reviews.

Might go 92 tonight.Hi gents,

I'm New to this site and newish to Spain lived here on the CDS for 18 months.

I have seen Noelia after finding the Secretgarden site, I can recommend her very sexy with a cracking body and service was top notch. I hope to sample a few more from that site next month.

Nomeymom

07-18-20, 23:49

Casino area still only part open. All the girls were horrific (there was like one or two which I might have gone up with because I was horny) and I did.

Went with a blonde girl think her name used to be maria but she said anastia or something I don't know.

Anyway I was proper horny so came in like 8 minutes but she sat on my face until I made her cum which was quite decent. Got a 10 euro drink and chilled found her she Charged 75 euro when I'm sure I've got her for 50 before. Sheets and towels cost 5 and then she asked for 3 euro to buy a beer which I gave her. But she handed it back to the bed sheet woman bit bizarre trying to make every little change I guess.

Last time I'm going there though for this summer. Barcelona lock down not long until cov19 reaches here and it becomes too risky.

Nothing compared to pre lock down and I wouldn't even recommend it to be honest.

Going to fuck an independent on Monday then call it a day for the girls for the duration of time I'm here. But will see what happens I'm living with family so its impossible to have a wank. Frustration can get to you haha.

Cost me 83 + 25 in taxi + 10 drinks. Could of got an hour with an local brass instead which is the wiser option ATM except you don't get to see the face till you get there which is a big deal for me.

MagicSheep74

07-19-20, 01:12

PayForIt

07-19-20, 01:56

Casino area still only part open. All the girls were horrific (there was like one or two which I might have gone up with because I was horny) and I did.

Anyway I was proper horny so came in like 8 minutes but she sat on my face until I made her cum which was quite decent. Got a 10 euro drink and chilled found her she Charged 75 euro when I'm sure I've got her for 50 before. Sheets and towels cost 5 and then she asked for 3 euro to buy a beer which I gave her. But she handed it back to the bed sheet woman bit bizarre trying to make every little change I guess.

Last time I'm going there though for this summer.I am afraid your post if full of contradictions. 1. Nobody goes with horrific girls. The notion that all the girls are horrific is (a) your opinion (b) likely to be correct from someone who only sessions with girls €500+ but you don't as you are moaning about €3 for the sheets girl.

2. The girl in the room was so horrific that she made you cum inside 8 minutes. Not 7, not six, not 9 not 10 but 8. You looked at your watch when you came to check?

3. Don't know how you paid €75 - it was cheap. It is 80 for 30 minutes and 150 for one hour. How you got to pay 75 e I don't know but I suspect she took pity on you because you could only last 8 minutes.

4. It is not bizarre at all for someone to give the sheets lady (Sandra) €3 euro tip. She has been unemployed for months. Are you denying her the €3?

I'm sorry my friend but you come into the forum for the first time and your post is full of odd statements. You are perfectly entitled to you opinion and if you last only 8 minutes because you are horny the girls will think it is a shame you won't return as they love punters who only last 8 minutes.

I've been tonight (Saturday) and the notion that the girls are ALL horrific is total nonsense. I am a picky customer. I've been told so frequently during the now nearly 30 years I've been doing this. If you thought they were all horrific I would love to know which clubs around the World you've been going to where the girls are stunning, and where you get them for €50 euros (your quote) without tipping for sheets (fair enough). Because if you know somewhere where there are stunners available for €50 you need to post the detail. Not just in the CDS forum but across the whole of the European section of ISG. You will be a hero.

I'm not sure the club or the girls will miss you if you keep to your indication that you won't return. I welcome all balanced views but I'm afraid I found your post thoroughly unconvincing (just my two cents). Good luck with the independent next week. Hope she is everything she is in the photoshopped pictures and that she gives fantastic service for €50.

PayForIt

07-19-20, 02:36

So, decided to return to visit Scandalos for the first time since lockdown. Was in two minds as I had had such a good night at E92 last week. But tried it nonetheless. Arriving at 10.30 is probably not seeing the club at its best, but I had left by 11.30. I am afraid the club is just very flat at present. Maybe it is because Malaga is a bigger town and people are more cautious of the virus etc. Maybe I got there too early, but in the 45 to 50 minutes I stayed I saw only a handful of girls I would consider and I reminded myself of the crazy prices. Minimum 50 euros for a lady drink and 200 or 220 in the room. For those prices I expect 9/10 Melissa quality. It was not there. Several overweight SA girls, some of the usual EE girls (Anna / glasses) and the return of Savanah (was absent 2019). Spoke to one German girl, Lillia who previously worked at FKK Artemis (have noticed several of the girls from FKKs at Spanish clubs as the German clubs remain closed). Nothing to grab my attention of big cash, so back in the car to E92 to lay the ghost or rather lay Sabrina. It didn't happen. See below.

To correct the report by Nomeymom, the club is not now only part open. The old cafeteria and casino area is only open until midnight but now after midnight the bar / club area is open as usual, and it made the club feel normal again.

The options on the LU this week are much improved on last week. So much so that whilst I had fully intended to session with Sabrina (who was again occupied most of the night and looked excellent again), I ended up having a fabulous threesome including one new girl who was sensational.

Hit the casino again and had a fabulous night. Won over €1600. Nice. More than paid for the night. Contemplated the new Luisa (Brasilian and very pretty with good body). Also very tempted by glamorous Antonia (Brazilian and very pretty blonde). One other new blonde Brasiliera I couldn't get near to. Too busy.

My fav of many years Blonde Ro Alicia was with a new friend Elena. Ro, Brunette, silicons but great body and nipples like wheelnuts. What a great time in the room for 2 hours with these two. Celebrating the casino win.

Maria looked hot in a blue top. Bianca looked good. Several of the Brazilians were attractive and Sandra on reception reported that 44 girls were working in the club tonight.

Mask now compulsory at all times guys. Even in the bar area. Many wore them down but if the police attend and you are not wearing one it is a fine. So now worth not doing so.

So another great E92 night. More open space, annoying to wear masks but so be it, casino half closed off, club open after 12, LU was very good indeed with many options even for someone picky like me.

Nomeymom

07-19-20, 10:24

The price was just an observation that I reported. I have been going to 92 for over ten years and so I benchmarked the quality based on every other time. There are always low quality girls but there's always a good choice of 8's every time I have been.

Mate 95% of the girls were not up to scratch I don't know what standards you have or how much you had to drink. Like I said there was maybe two or three that I would of considered going up with (6/10) unless all the good ones had been upstairs at the time but I hung about for a good hour in casino. I left at around 12.10 am and the main club was still not open too?

I'm not fussed paying tip if she said it was for tip I'd happily pay but don't say you want it for beer just be straight up its not like the punter will say no.

Anyway the service from the girl was good. The 8 minutes was just an estimation but I don't care I was horny as fuck and wanted to buss but I was up there for a good 25.

This is just my experience report. Oh and BTW I have been on this forum since 2012 this is just a new account.

I am afraid your post if full of contradictions. 1. Nobody goes with horrific girls. The notion that all the girls are horrific is (a) your opinion (b) likely to be correct from someone who only sessions with girls 500+ but you don't as you are moaning about 3 for the sheets girl.

2. The girl in the room was so horrific that she made you cum inside 8 minutes. Not 7, not six, not 9 not 10 but 8. You looked at your watch when you came to check?

3. Don't know how you paid 75 - it was cheap. It is 80 for 30 minutes and 150 for one hour. How you got to pay 75 e I don't know but I suspect she took pity on you because you could only last 8 minutes.

4. It is not bizarre at all for someone to give the sheets lady (Sandra) 3 euro tip. She has been unemployed for months. Are you denying her the 3?

I'm sorry my friend but you come into the forum for the first time and your post is full of odd statements. You are perfectly entitled to you opinion and if you last only 8 minutes because you are horny the girls will think it is a shame you won't return as they love punters who only last 8 minutes..

MagicSheep74

07-19-20, 13:00

TeddyBears

07-19-20, 18:28

Great report PFI, good to read anything about Scandalo but it doesn't sound good even if the time of your visit probably were a bit early. Since I will stay in Benalmadena when I arrive in about three weeks time E92 will most likely be my preferred destination. But I will write to a couple of girls usually working at Scandalo before I arrive. As you say their price structure at Scandalo is crazy, they need to realize their location is in a industrial area and the talent at their club is not up to Vive Madrid standard. At the moment they are maybe not even the best club in the area.

It would be nice if someone else also could report anything about Scandalo the coming weeks.

Stay safe out there.

The Cane

07-19-20, 21:05

Spoke to one German girl, Lillia who previously worked at FKK Artemis (have noticed several of the girls from FKKs at Spanish clubs as the German clubs remain closed). Nothing to grab my attention of big cash, so back in the car to E92 to lay the ghost or rather lay Sabrina. It didn't happen. Oh wow! I wonder if that could have been the same Lilia who was all the rage at Artemis? Tall, blonde, pretty face, nice rack? Blue eyes and wears her hair pulled back in a long ponytail with a headband? Of course, the way women change their hair so often, who knows what it looks like now. I think you said you saw her the last time you were at Artemis, but she wasn't your type. Is this Lilia the same one PFI? Pray tell!

PayForIt

07-20-20, 00:15

Oh wow! I wonder if that could have been the same Lilia who was all the rage at Artemis? Tall, blonde, pretty face, nice rack? Blue eyes and wears her hair pulled back in a long ponytail with a headband? Of course, the way women change their hair so often, who knows what it looks like now. I think you said you saw her the last time you were at Artemis, but she wasn't your type. Is this Lilia the same one PFI? Pray tell!Hi. Alas not the same one. I remember only too well you directing me to her and she spoke great English in Artemis. A little bit on the heavy side for me but was tempted because of your reports of her service. This Lilia was one of the two girls in Artemis who had gun tattoos? This one has only one an an ass cheek? Used to sit at the far end of the bar with Celia and that girl who wore a headband of flowers all the time. Forgotten her name. Blonde also and pretty. I didn't session with her but did x2 with Celia at Artemis.

I got the impression a few FKK girls are hitting Spain because Germany is closed and may not return.

I'll be gutted if FKKs don't survive as I love the model / operation / food / lying in the garden with an array of naked beauties. Remember being at Oase on one occasion having an suntan lotion massage (around the pool from Denisa (says Spanish but is Ro and Daniella (my fav at Oase. Pretty face if a little heavy).

Will try to go back to Scandalos but I'm not a big fan of starting my sessions at 1 am and the club is truly dead now before 12. Even a minimal staff at Malaga Nostrum. E92 is better. Noneymom is not wrong that there are some very heavy girls at E92 but in answer to his question, I was far from drunk, and there were at least 6/7 very passable girls. And as previously reported I am horribly picky.

Fontana is struggling with only a few girls but the Moroccan duo must be worth a try. Haven't tried Glass Palace or Cleofas but understand Monika (great body) is still working at the latter.

Antonia, Luisa, Sabrina (all SA girls) worth trying at E92 and as reported previously, Alicia (curly blonde Ro. Fabulous service and nice natural see cups) and the new, Elena (pocket rocket brunette Ro) well worth the euros.

Nomeymom

07-20-20, 01:55

Decided to give 92 another shot and I guess I must of just got unlucky when I went on Friday it was a lot better tonight.

There was a few decent girls (better than when I first went).

The main club did open after 12 but nobody really chilling there just using smoking area.

Fucked that blonde Alisia or whatever her name is. Decent - then I decided to go for round 2 after an hour casino break.

I went up with one Colombian. Basically I paid for an hour because I knew I'd be out in ten if I did the thirty minutes. So I came. Tried to cum the second time for ages wasn't happening. Whilst I was doggying it my cock must of gone soft and the condom came off inside her. I only noticed when I pulled out.

I'm worried because she goes "be careful where you put your cock" I was like what do you mean? Are you clean? She goes hopefully I was like? Wtf? Then she was like don't worry about me I look after myself.

Do the girls there get regularly tested? I hope I haven't caught anything.

Doubt she's got aids more worried of Herpes or something because you can't get rid of that she's like 35 and been on the circuit for 8+ years worldwide.

Andalus Expat

07-20-20, 09:18

D. Whilst I was doggying it my cock must of gone soft and the condom came off inside her. I only noticed when I pulled out.

I'm worried because she goes "be careful where you put your cock" I was like what do you mean? Are you clean? She goes hopefully I was like? Wtf? Then she was like don't worry about me I look after myself.

Do the girls there get regularly tested? I hope I haven't caught anything.

Doubt she's got aids more worried of Herpes or something because you can't get rid of that she's like 35 and been on the circuit for 8+ years worldwide.I wouldn't worry yourself, over much. Most if not all of the girls will have douched will be using a bactericidal lubricant. Remember you're aroused and having sex. They're working and looking after the tools of the trade. And screwing a WG is way safer than any one night stand pick up. They actually care about their health, take precautions and have regular tests.

Expect she was worried about your aim and ramming it up the wrong entrance.

It'd be helpful if a little less time was spent on reports personal prowess and a little more on what was happening in the club. How many other punters were there? How much money was gong across the bar? How many tricks were the girls getting? From what I've heard from the other side, clubs are no different from anything else in the industry. Earnings are way down and showing little sign of recovery. You may be witnessing the end of the big club because they're not economically viable. Those prices have been hiked for a reason, haven't they? And it's not because their so inundated with customers they're having to turn them away at the door.

Jummy1

07-20-20, 13:40

Don't feed him.

Nomeymom

07-21-20, 00:50

PayForIt

07-21-20, 12:14

Yeah I agree but you never know. Will get tested when I'm back in UK anyway.

Club was decently busy with punters obviously nothing like pre covid last summer. I think a lot of people are worried about the virus as there's been outbreaks in Malaga (guadalhorce).

A lot of girls were just hanging around especially the less desirable ones. Don't know how they afford the rent maybe they have some deal with management because 75 a day adds up and I'm sure some of the girls may not have got one client that night. Some of the more popular girls were quite busy all night though I reckon they make easy 300 minimum.

And Jummy1 why the hell would I come troll the most random forum in the world LOL I'm just writing my experiences.Glad your second visit was better. Very few deaths in the whole of Spain despite an increase in cases and a small increase in Malaga.

Trust me. The best girls take far more than e300! There are some who are rarely in the bar for more than 15 minutes before being selected. I know some of the most popular girls in Scandalos and in German FKKs deliberately stay in a room when the punter has gone to get rest. Not uncommon for some of the girls in Scandalos and Milady to get 2 rich guys coming in, buying champagne and taking 5 girls to a room on a deal where each girl is paid €1000 for no more than 3 hours. The girls pray for those moments. Which are few but they happen. Don't forget they are rarely in the room for the full hour. Many are skilled at extracting male orgasm quickly. I recall a very funny bet with a Bulgarian girl in an FKK two years ago when I agreed to pay full price (only €100/ hour) for 2 hours for each of her and her friend, if she could prove she could get in an out of a room twice with two different guys unknown to each other inside 45 minutes, including 5 for a shower and freshen up for her. She took the first guy inside and was out in 12 minutes. Winked to me and her friend at the bar, went to shower, back in the bar, pulled the next punter immediately, and had rejoined us in the bar a full 28 minutes after the game started. She joked she should have suggested she could do 3 in 45 minutes. When we got into the room she asked if I wanted to know how she did it. I agreed. On with the condom, she insisted on reverse cowgirl, but with my back against the head of the bed. She had the most powerful muscles in her pussy I've ever known and I had to push her off after about 3 minutes of her thrusting and using the muscles to prevent a very premature end to my 2 hours I was then having to pay for! For those of you who frequent this forum and also go to the FKKs. This was Kathryn (the Great) of Bulgaria in Oase. Stood over 6 ft tall without her huge heels which took her easily over 6'5". Auburn hair. An Amazonian, imposing woman with great strength.

So the top girls can earn a lot. Glad you liked Alicia. You should try Elena next time.

I wouldn't worry about the condom issue. The chances of you getting anything are minuscule but of course not impossible so get tested but as Andalus Expat said. Your risk is lower with these girls who look after themselves. It is why 99.9% of them won't ever do bareback if you ask. I won't consider going to a room with any girl known for agreeing to do bareback. But there are very few of them now. Too many respect their own health too much, and of their punters.

Thanks for the reports.

Andalus Expat

07-21-20, 12:17

A lot of girls were just hanging around especially the less desirable ones. Don't know how they afford the rent maybe they have some deal with management because 75 a day adds up and I'm sure some of the girls may not have got one client that night. Some of the more popular girls were quite busy all night though I reckon they make easy 300 minimum.Thanks for that, because you've spotted what most of the posters here have ignored. The club survives not on the girls they personally prefer to choose but on the ones they don't. To the club, it doesn't matter whether any individual girl is popular or not. They're in the business of selling accommodation & drinks over the bar. They need heads on beds. If the less popular girls aren't earning they're not going to pay to work at the club. So the club takes a cut in revenue. The only way out of that hole is to increase charges to the girls / prices over the bar. You going to pay more?

I've been trying to work out some numbers on club economics. Scandalos and Estark are both essentially repurposed hotels. A very conservative going rate for hotel's their size / location, pre-Coronapanic, in the range 3-4 million euros. Now it depends on capital structure. Does the club own its venue or not? If it doesn't, return on capital for commercial property in Spain was a tad under 9% last year. That translates into a monthly rental in the range 22500 to 30000. That's got to be paid out of revenue before you think about staff wages, services and consumables etc. If it does own the venue, things look a little different. But not much. It's got an essentially worthless asset. (We're currently in discussions with a Spanish bank over taking some repossessed commercial off their books. We've started talking at 50% discount on book value. We wouldn't touch a hotel with a bargepole.) If it needs money to tide it over the current bad patch, any lender is going to be looking at that rate of return on total capital deployed. So how far are they into whatever cash reserves they had, pre-Coronapanic? Since you're so keen on puticlubs, are you going to invest your retirement pot into one? Maybe they'll give a platinum VIP card, gets you a free drink at the bar.

Nomeymom

07-21-20, 20:48

Would make sense as there was a guy instead of the usual woman doing the bedsheets. He had a spreadsheet he was writing on with the girls names on so must of been taking note who went upstairs.

Going to go TQ casino so may pop over the road to coq to see what's happening. May go scando's if win its been a few years since I touched that place. Wish me luck.

They're in the business of selling accommodation & drinks over the bar. They need heads on beds. If the less popular girls aren't earning they're not going to pay to work at the club. So the club takes a cut in revenue. The only way out of that hole is to increase charges to the girls / prices over the bar. You going to pay more?

Pepe1976X

07-22-20, 16:08

A very conservative going rate for hotel's their size / location, pre-Coronapanic, in the range 3-4 million euros. Now it depends on capital structure. Does the club own its venue or not? If it doesn't, return on capital for commercial property in Spain was a tad under 9% last year. That translates into a monthly rental in the range 22500 to 30000..Lease values may have been calculated in 2012 recession! Would have only been valued at E1. 5 M then and if there was rent re-negotiation clause! Happy days!

Andalus Expat

07-24-20, 22:00

Couple worthy of note.

Thai the Colombiana I met last year is back in Fuengirola. Mulata but with long platinum hair. Nice curvy body. Twenties, big tits, slim waist, nice ass, general sprinkling of tats. Exotic would be the word. And she delivers. Inspired oral. If you don't cum in her mouth, take your choice of either entrance, her on top, doggie, whatever. It'll be an all action meeting. She does not stop. I'll definitely be taking advantage while she's available.

And a new found friend. Saray's a Spanish girl in her thirties. Speaks English. Slim, smallish tits, tanned, tats. Beautiful green eyes. Goes like a rocket. All apertures well utilized but she got the considerable result in her mouth after some incredible tongue work I'll definitely be seeing more of her. She says she likes girls. We'll see.

Glad to hear Noelia impressed, Mr Dream. She's got her work number turned off at the moment. But she's always keen on meeting Brits She spends enough time here!

Andalus Expat

07-27-20, 17:31

Well, the the latest edict out of Clownworld has certainly done it. Looks looks like the holiday season 2020 on the CDS is dead in the water. And you lot are fated to be Spectators Only for the foreseeable future. My deepest sympathies are of course extended.

Nomeymom

07-28-20, 01:10

PayForIt

07-28-20, 08:08

After a week break went back to 92 and there's some fucking quality there.

New Latino 9/10 hottie.

Went with a Romanian called Anna (brown hair wears normal clothes) not the Maralyn Monroe one. Had a cracking time.

Theres also some chick that looks like Ivanka Trump proper hottie she's deffo on the hit list next time.

Couple other new south american faces too.

Deffo worth a visit was reasonably busy for a Monday I went last night too was quite busy but didn't bang because I lost a lot of money in the casino so sent myself home as a punishment.

Some girls now chilling in the main club area. Some guys had table service too.Glad you are enjoying E92. I was there on Saturday and had another excellent 2 hours with Elena (brunette Ro. Very slim). The club was very busy, the bar was busy, takings are apparently on the up. However that may all change with the UK quarantine decision which was the talk of the bar. I heard some rumours of Scandalos closing but after some enquiries that appeared to be wrong and it was open as normal.

The Ivana Trump lookalike is Ina. Ro. Used to be entirely blonde but is returning to her natural hair colour of light brown. She has returned with her also very friend Daniella, dark long haired brunette. I have been in the room with both of them and they both give excellent service.

I saw the new SA hottie you also mentioned. Didn't talk to her but she looks very attractive. Also Luisa and Antonia from Brazil both look worth having time with.

The options look good, the club is doing well, more bar staff appear to be returning. But I wonder if the UK quarantine ruling might just set it back again? Nice to see the main club area opening too. All in all I think fears that the virus might kill off the big clubs at least for the moment appears to be short of the mark. But we are not out of the woods yet at all. Whilst the virus appears to be rife again in the north of Spain we musts hope it does not travel south.

Andalus Expat

07-28-20, 10:21

The options look good, the club is doing well, more bar staff appear to be returning. But I wonder if the UK quarantine ruling might just set it back again? Nice to see the main club area opening too. All in all I think fears that the virus might kill off the big clubs at least for the moment appears to be short of the mark. But we are not out of the woods yet at all. Whilst the virus appears to be rife again in the north of Spain we musts hope it does not travel south.This is not what I'm hearing from the girls, themselves. Even in Bilboa, Madrid & Barca earnings have been nothing like previous years. Why do you think clubs have been raising drink prices? Couple of Paraguayas been working in Barca passed through at the weekend. They went on to Cordoba, see if they could be luckier there. The effect of the UK quarantine requirements will be on the CDS economy as a whole. The contribution Brits are making to the revenue of clubs is trivial. You're not exactly big spenders. The typical Brit buys one maybe two cheap drinks, sweatily oggles the girls and may nervously accompany one upstairs for half an hour. Though they do easily fall prey to being hustled. My lawyer reckons 70% of the CDS economy is directly or indirectly dependent on the tourism & leisure industry. From the camareros in the restaurants to the owners of businesses the rugs been pulled out from under it. There just isn't any money going around. From the terrace of my flat in the centre of town, the density of pedestrians in Fuengirola's main street below was about what you'd expect for a wet evening in February. Lola's Bar opposite, normally packed so solid you could hardy move, had about a dozen customers. Liz and I went for a drink in the plaza behind the post office. That's Spanish middle-class territory. A Sunday evening you'd normally have to wait for a table if you were lucky enough to get one. Several of the places haven't bothered about opening and the one we patronized, only half the tables were in use. And little sign of waiters moving between the tables with trays laden with drinks & tapas. Mostly they were standing around hopeful of someone ordering another couple of glasses of wine. Liz reckons she isn't doing so badly. She's built herself up a customer base of resident ex-pats. Dutch, Danes & Irish seem to feature prominently. But that she's spending 25€ a day on Pasion ads suggests that might not be the whole story. And this is what the survival of Estark and Scandalos will depend on. Not a couple of Brit mongers.

And, of course, a number of the spikes in Spanish infection rates seem to have originated in what are described as "nightclubs". So talk of closures.

Whilst the virus appears to be rife again in the north of Spain we musts hope it does not travel south.Unless the government seals the inter-province borders again, closing northern clubs would have the girls migrating to other parts of Spain. So they'd shut the clubs here, as well.

PayForIt

07-29-20, 00:02

The effect of the UK quarantine requirements will be on the CDS economy as a whole. The contribution Brits are making to the revenue of clubs is trivial. You're not exactly big spenders. The typical Brit buys one maybe two cheap drinks, sweatily oggles the girls and may nervously accompany one upstairs for half an hour.

And, of course, a number of the spikes in Spanish infection rates seem to have originated in what are described as "nightclubs". So talk of closures.

Unless the government seals the inter-province borders again, closing northern clubs would have the girls migrating to other parts of Spain. So they'd shut the clubs here, as well.We really must be seeing different things. Whilst I don't disagree that the CDS economy as a whole will be affected by the quarantine decision, the notion that "there is not much money about" is very much not the case in the stretch between Marbella and Sotogrande. I appreciate that is only one area. But many of the restaurants in that area are very busy. The chiringuitas are busy. E92 has been busy on the three occasions I've been there.

I'm afraid your idea of Brits being meagre is not what I see (or practice). I rarely spend less than 500 in a club. I maybe the exception to the rule but for example in Fontana a few weeks ago I watched a British guy spend a lot on two ladies. In E92 last weekend, several of the Brits in attendance (and there were about 6-8) appeared to take girls to the rooms after buying drinks.

I have several friends in real estate on the CDS. They report no drop in prices or activity. Money still floods into the CDS. Not from Brits but increasingly from Russians, Scandinavians etc. So I'm not sure the suggested foreboding of doom and gloom is correct. At least not presently. If there is a second lockdown I think Spain and its economy will really struggle.

As you say, club closures in other parts may lead to girls moving through clubs in the south. That would undoubtedly be dangerous at the moment so we can only hope it doesn't happen.

But if even if you are correct and the clubs will be in trouble, or close, I suppose it makes me think that whilst they are here, and open, we should be enjoying them. I read many reports from regulars at FKKs like me who are despondent at the decisions in Germany not to permit them to reopen. To that extent, the ability to attend clubs on the CDS and enjoy them to the full should not be missed whilst the opportunity is there, for those willing to take some risks with the current situation. And I appreciate this is very much a personal decision.

For one, I certainly hope they don't close, or that if they do they will reopen and flourish. And if they do, I shall be there to contribute! If they closed altogether I'm afraid the CDS would lose its attraction for me as a mongering destination. And thus would see the closure on a history of doing so for over 30 years! But there are many other destinations where mongering from a line up is still possible, and if it means having to head to Dubai, Thailand (very few cases), other parts of Asia, and hopefully back to Germany, then so be it. Somehow, I don't believe mongering on the CDS in puticlubs will come to an end. Even if there was a second spike.

Andalus Expat

07-29-20, 09:51

We really must be seeing different things. Whilst I don't disagree that the CDS economy as a whole will be affected by the quarantine decision, the notion that "there is not much money about" is very much not the case in the stretch between Marbella and Sotogrande. I appreciate that is only one area. But many of the restaurants in that area are very busy. The chiringuitas are busy. E92 has been busy on the three occasions I've been there.

I'm afraid your idea of Brits being meagre is not what I see (or practice). I rarely spend less than 500 in a club. I maybe the exception to the rule but for example in Fontana a few weeks ago I watched a British guy spend a lot on two ladies. In E92 last weekend, several of the Brits in attendance (and there were about 6-8) appeared to take girls to the rooms after buying drinks.

I have several friends in real estate on the CDS. They report no drop in prices or activity. Money still floods into the CDS. Not from Brits but increasingly from Russians, Scandinavians etc. So I'm not sure the suggested foreboding of doom and gloom is correct. At least not presently. If there is a second lockdown I think Spain and its economy will really struggle.

As you say, club closures in other parts may lead to girls moving through clubs in the south. That would undoubtedly be dangerous at the moment so we can only hope it doesn't happen.

But if even if you are correct and the clubs will be in trouble, or close, I suppose it makes me think that whilst they are here, and open, we should be enjoying them. I read many reports from regulars at FKKs like me who are despondent at the decisions in Germany not to permit them to reopen. To that extent, the ability to attend clubs on the CDS and enjoy them to the full should not be missed whilst the opportunity is there, for those willing to take some risks with the current situation. And I appreciate this is very much a personal decision.
You've reminded me of being in Freetown, Sierra Leone in the '80's. It had a couple of decent restaurants. Very busy. Plenty of wealthy people having a good time. Of course you needed heavily armed guards to escort you to them and you drove past dead bodies in the street but.

It's just basic economics. Of course there are still wealthy people here. I'm not exactly hard up myself. But my money doesn't come from the Spanish economy. It's not what's happening in Puerto Banus, or Estapona that's important. Staff in a few bars and restaurants have jobs. It's what's happening in the cheap tourist areas of Torremolinos and Benalmadena. The nondescript areas of Malaga's urban sprawl. Not quality but volume. The feedstock for the CDS economy is tourism and leisure. There's not much of either going on. So the money isn't going into the service industries support them. And not much money going to the businesses that provide good and services to their employees. You think Malaga's furniture shops are selling many new sofas? How are the car hire companies at the airport doing?

The CDS economy is slowly grinding to a halt. We're losing businesses. The first to go are the restaurants and bars. The shops that sell to tourists. Next will be the businesses that supply them. Then the businesses supply those. The economy as a whole contracts. And once we've lost them they're gone. To get back to last year's "normal", you'd have to build it all back up again. That took 40 years, last time round. Just at the moment we're in a false spring. We don't know what will have survived at the end of summer 2021.

It's why your "what I did on my holidays" reports from Estark don't actually tell us anything worth knowing, as far as the future of the club is concerned. The popular girls in any club will always be doing well and finding punters like you with your 500€ burning a hole in your pocket. They hoover up the best punters. It's the punters left over for the less spectacular xicas are important. The bread and butter. If client numbers drop, the quality girls still get as much work but their lesser sisters get nothing. It's the downside of the business model of clubs. The girls in them are really just indoor street girls with the club as the street. Villas and apartments manage their girls and manage their clients. If you're running one, you try and ensure that all of your girls get a slice of the pie, continue to want to work in the house and you can stay in business. With a club, if it loses its bread and butter girls, it loses those 75€ heads on beds and becomes uneconomic.

The economics of clubs is the economics of the whole CDS played out in microcosm. But insignificant set against the whole prostitution industry on the CDS. A couple hundred girls and a paltry number of men go looking for that particular experience. The industry as a whole is thousands. I could put together a complete line-up for Estark from the girls I know in this town, alone, in a few phone calls. And I'm only scratching the surface.

The Cane

07-29-20, 12:23

For one, I certainly hope they don't close, or that if they do they will reopen and flourish. And if they do, I shall be there to contribute! If they closed altogether I'm afraid the CDS would lose its attraction for me as a mongering destination. And thus would see the closure on a history of doing so for over 30 years! But there are many other destinations where mongering from a line up is still possible, and if it means having to head to Dubai, Thailand (very few cases), other parts of Asia, and hopefully back to Germany, then so be it. Somehow, I don't believe mongering on the CDS in puticlubs will come to an end. Even if there was a second spike.And why not Brazil?

MichaelMichael

07-29-20, 18:20

Hi,

I'm a new user but have read through this forum for a while so I wanted to contribute a little.

Recently I went to Estark 92 for the first time. It is my very first time in a club like that where the customers and girls just walk around. Previously I've went to girls private apartments (not in Spain though and the main reason for this is that I find it hard to find good reviews of independent girls IE. Real or fake pictures) and I've been to *****houses in Spain. Fuck I still remember my first time at a Spanish *****house. 15 hot girls (place was one of the most high-end in Spain) entering a room and you can just pick a girl to fuck. Amazing.

Anyways, I didn't really know if I would like a puticlub like Estark. A lot of girls competing for guys money and just throwing themselves over you. I like that at a *****house I pick a girl and there is a minimum of random and useless smalltalk but then again sometimes you want that. But not really. I guess you could flirt and so on but its to fake for my liking doing that with a girl who only fucks you for the money LOL so I can't be arsed.

I entered Estark and even though I didn't live through the 80's a place like this is what I expect it was like back then haha, I don't know if you older lads feel the same way? Well, as I suspected the first (and most desperate) girls to throw themselves over you were not the most attractive of the lot. I read that Estark has a casino so I went to the roulette table. I felt awkward staying at the bar where about 8 girls were. I wanted to be able to check the selection out before going upstairs and taking my time a little. So I went to the roulette table and lost money LOL, and some girls came by and sat with me. I have to get better at rejecting girls I will never go upstairs with, I don't know I guess they are used to it so I should maybe be more direct and straightforward next time. Whats your tips for this?

A hot blonde Russian girl with glasses named Nikol came by my seat at the roulette table. A little crazy girl with delicate small tits and an amazing ass. Went upstairs with her, great decision. Actually I rejected her first at the roulette table because I wanted to see more of the selection but I said to the next girl that I wanted to go with the Russian blonde, and few minutes after she was back at my seat. We did the action and afterwards laid down on the bed talking and touching a little. See this is where I guess a puticlub also is different from a *****house. After the sex is done at a *****house I just leave but Nikol wanted me to stay in the bed with her. That was nice and I even went outside to cash out more money for another 30 minutes for a round two. But this time I said she had to suck without condom and she did, although she kept wiping and wiping and wiping my cock during the blowjob. A little unsatisfied there (how many girls do this normally with no extra price? Superfrench is a must for me honestly. Next time I'll be sure to tell the girls this beforehand). Again, a little crazy personality (I'm meaning that in a good way BTW) and spicy in the bed. She wants to fuck!

For people reading this and are having a ridiculously hard time trying to find the prices. 75 euros for 30 minutes and 150 euros for 1 hour. 5 euro for bedsheet to Estark. 10 euros for a beer. At least that's what I paid. I hope that's the rate or have I been fooled lads?

Now to the *****house I've been to in Malaga a few times. I have barely read anything about Mujeres con Clase / Valezquez24 in this forum so here goes.

The lineup isn't always the best but out of 10 girls there are always 3-4 girls I want to fuck. This time I picked Camila (I can read in the posting guidelines that I can't post a link, wtf? She's on the webpage and has real pictures. You can always count on the pictures to be real there. Hot Colombian with plastic tits. Likes to cowgirl but had to slow her down LOL. Quiet in the bed unless you really go mental. Great fuck and nice plastic tits for once. Sweet personality and maybe a little shy when speaking. I came on her tits and belly and she was a little surprised maybe LOL. I don't know if its normal down here in Spain to cum on body but I wanted to do it this time so I went for it. Nice fuck and only 60 euros for 30 minutes. Facilities are nice and the entrance is discreet. Always quick to respond on whatsapp. Don't expect GFE, you fuck and leave but great place.

PayForIt

07-29-20, 20:19

It's why your "what I did on my holidays" reports from Estark don't actually tell us anything worth knowing, as far as the future of the club is concerned.With respect, (a) I'm not on my holidays! (b) I think you are missing the entire point of this forum. Guys don't come on here at all concerned about (1) the economics of the CDS or anywhere else for that matter, or (2) to read about how financially well off a club or clubs, or bars or furniture shops are, or are not. As this is the international sex guide, guys come on wanting to share information about what sex opportunities there are, and to learn who is available and where, and for what price, and levels of service. When guys like me post about this girl or that girl it is for the benefit of others. I don't walk around with badges of sexual exploits. Hell I wouldn't be able to walk! When a guy posts that a certain girl gave great service or poor service, that really helps for me. I want to hear those experiences. It helps with selections. I want to know if there are many girls working and what the standard is. I fully accept it changes regularly but in fact in many clubs not. There are 20 girls in E92 now who have been there over a year.

So I'm afraid we will have to differ on the relating of experiences as "what I did on my holidays". It's important sharing information for future visits to clubs and girls. I wouldn't put what I did on my holidays on a sex forum! Other than the clubs staying open, the issue of the economy is an important one, and worthy of discussion. In a financial analysis forum. But not in a sex forum. Where stories of experiences are of more value than knowing how many sofas got sold in a shop.

PayForIt

07-29-20, 20:30

Hi,

I'm a new user but have read through this forum for a while so I wanted to contribute a little.

I felt awkward staying at the bar where about 8 girls were. I wanted to be able to check the selection out before going upstairs and taking my time a little. So I went to the roulette table and lost money LOL, and some girls came by and sat with me. I have to get better at rejecting girls I will never go upstairs with, I don't know I guess they are used to it so I should maybe be more direct and straightforward next time. Whats your tips for this?
Thanks for reporting and glad you had a good time. Don't know the Russian so will check her out.

Rejection is never nice even if it is standard in their job. I tend to soften the blow by some self humility. Rather than "maybe later" which they either take as a no anyway, or else pester you later (I say, "sorry, you are not really my type. But I'm sure outside the club I most definitely would not be your type! It's always seemed to work for me. Let's them know it is a firm no without it being an insult. If they push for friends with "who do you like / who is your type" I respond with "I'm enjoying thinking about it and will take a bit of time deciding thanks".

As for BBBJ. Less frequent in Spain unless the girl knows you. Common in German FKKs (and boy should you try one when they reopen). If you ask in the bar in Spain and make clear that you are clean, will wash thoroughly first, but that it is a deal breaker for you, you'll get some who will agree. I find it is easier to persuade in the room when they actually see you have great hygiene but I accept that is a risk.

Hope you enjoy and report on some of the other clubs and venues.

Andalus Expat

07-29-20, 21:19

With respect, (a) I'm not on my holidays! (b) I think you are missing the entire point of this forum. Guys don't come on here at all concerned about (1) the economics of the CDS or anywhere else for that matter, or (2) to read about how financially well off a club or clubs, or bars or furniture shops are, or are not. As this is the international sex guide, guys come on wanting to share information about what sex opportunities there are, and to learn who is available and where, and for what price, and levels of service. When guys like me post about this girl or that girl it is for the benefit of others. I don't walk around with badges of sexual exploits. Hell I wouldn't be able to walk! When a guy posts that a certain girl gave great service or poor service, that really helps for me. I want to hear those experiences. It helps with selections. I want to know if there are many girls working and what the standard is. I fully accept it changes regularly but in fact in many clubs not. There are 20 girls in E92 now who have been there over a year.

So I'm afraid we will have to differ on the relating of experiences as "what I did on my holidays". It's important sharing information for future visits to clubs and girls. I wouldn't put what I did on my holidays on a sex forum! Other than the clubs staying open, the issue of the economy is an important one, and worthy of discussion. In a financial analysis forum. But not in a sex forum. Where stories of experiences are of more value than knowing how many sofas got sold in a shop.Point taken, PFI. But there was a time one could visit ISG, learn about interesting girls members had come across or girls to be avoided. ISG was certainly my guide to putadom when I was up in Valencia. Learning what to expect when visiting apartments. Scams to watch out for. I also picked up some tips about Spain itself. Stuff you don't get from the guide books. At one time I was following a couple of the Colombian boards. Interesting information about navigating the perils of Medellin and Cali. Useful insights if you happen to be hanging around with a Colombiana. Lately this board's largely degenerated into discussions about a couple of clubs. Look, we all know where they are. Glad you have a good time in them. But you're talking about at best a 100 xicas. You do realize there's more to the CDS than that? Like there's actually a lot more to Germany than the FKK's. Or at least there were when I lived there. I know there are Brit guys live down here or visit are more adventurous. We swap information. Maybe they don't frequent this site because it's got so damned boring. One might as well talk about economics here. There's FA else worth reading.

TeddyBears

07-29-20, 22:51

Good evening gents.

For the most part part of my mongering life (+25 years) I have been a club guy, I guess you can say that I want to see what I got before buying it! I love the feeling of a young girl rubbing her tight ass against my crotch in a club at the same time you can have a feel for if the girl is someone you would have fun with in the room or perhaps not! A bit of Q&A is always recommended by me, and can't be echoed enough times to be honest. As PFI writes there are as many girls at Estark92 and Scandalo who stays there more or less all year round as there is girls who move around from one destination to another all the time and not get herself any regular customer base. Right or wrong for the girl I don't know, but as a club guy I like it when the club has a diversity of known ladies and a new hotties I can get to know as well!! LOL.

So as PFI mentions I also appreciates when someone shares information of specific girls, yes the girls sometimes change their names but if you're a frequent visitor you will follow.

For the last few years I have been checking out the independent scene more frequently especially in Barcelona, mainly for two reasons 1. They have a very good forum in sexomercadobcn.com where you have reliable reports of these independent girls, because honestly who wants to be cheated?? And 2. The few clubs Barcelona have is too expensive and they tend to try to scam their customers.

I have tried independents in the Malaga area as well with shared success, often disappointed and very happy on few occasions! So I applaud the initiative Andalus Expat made with the site secretgarden. Sexy where you only put on good "performers" (correct me if I am wrong) but to look at sites as pasion.com, slumi.com etc you don't know if all the photos are photoshopped or not, and it could be very frustrating if you have put a lot of time researching and then only to be disappointed by a fat cheating girl.

Hopefully their will be more reliable reports on independent girls in the future. But it's more or less two different sports, if you for an example visit an apartment or have a outcall you know that you're going to have sex for the coming hour or so, and then it's over. At a club you can go with several girls the same night if you have the energy level for it! But the main thing is you can sit and recuperate after your session, checking out your next girl of the night while having a drink of your choice. Totally different I would say, it's the same with brothels, you have one destination, then it's over.

It's not like in Germany and their FKK's where you have relax areas with pools, saunas and dining areas with lots of naked girls wandering around, where I literally easy can spend over 12 hours and fucking multiplied girls in one day.

As I said I am a club guy and I will definitely visit Estark92 when I arrive, probably Scandalo as well because it used to be my absolute favorite club in the area. Then again there are a few independents catching my eye as well, especially the black girl Thae that Andalus Expat mentioned.

Happy mongering gents!

OsoBlanco

07-30-20, 00:28

With respect, (a) I'm not on my holidays! (b) I think you are missing the entire point of this forum. Guys don't come on here at all concerned about (1) the economics of the CDS or anywhere else for that matter, or (2) to read about how financially well off a club or clubs, or bars or furniture shops are, or are not. As this is the international sex guide, guys come on wanting to share information about what sex opportunities there are, and to learn who is available and where, and for what price, and levels of service. When guys like me post about this girl or that girl it is for the benefit of others. I don't walk around with badges of sexual exploits. Hell I wouldn't be able to walk! When a guy posts that a certain girl gave great service or poor service, that really helps for me. I want to hear those experiences. It helps with selections. I want to know if there are many girls working and what the standard is. I fully accept it changes regularly but in fact in many clubs not. There are 20 girls in E92 now who have been there over a year.

So I'm afraid we will have to differ on the relating of experiences as "what I did on my holidays". It's important sharing information for future visits to clubs and girls. I wouldn't put what I did on my holidays on a sex forum! Other than the clubs staying open, the issue of the economy is an important one, and worthy of discussion. In a financial analysis forum. But not in a sex forum. Where stories of experiences are of more value than knowing how many sofas got sold in a shop.The point of the forum is too share information about mongering, whether it be about specific girls or clubs. In some places information on one may be more relevant than in others.

I used to (pre-covid) spend a lot of time in Curacao and there is only once place to monger (Campo Alegre), information on specific chicas was very helpful as they could only be on island for 3 months. Unfortunately Campo is now bankrupt, thanks to covid (and poor management). I know a number of Colombian / Dominican girls in the business, so I am very interested in "economics" of the business and how things are being affected in Spain where some of them are.

You may be a club man, but I think these are a lot more guys who like the casa / villa scene. I am sure a lot of us want to know what the future holds for these businesses and are thankful for information AndalusExpat has provided. I would like to see more information on the casas / villas and apartment experiences. I am thankful for your info on E92 (prices, chicas, etc.) but I don't need to know how much you won / loss at the roulette table, that doesn't help me find my next experience. The overall state of play (I. E. Economics) is important in my decision on where I might travel (when I can).

The Cane

07-30-20, 02:23

As for BBBJ. Less frequent in Spain unless the girl knows you. Common in German FKKs (and boy should you try one when they reopen). If you ask in the bar in Spain and make clear that you are clean, will wash thoroughly first, but that it is a deal breaker for you, you'll get some who will agree. I find it is easier to persuade in the room when they actually see you have great hygiene but I accept that is a risk.I'll never forget how our beautiful Melissa at Scandalo swore up and down that she absolutely would not suck my dick bare. And then we get up to the room and what does she do? She gives me a BBBJ! I asked her why when she was so adamant that she would not. She said that she liked the fact that I bought her a drink, and she thought that I was a nice guy. And although she didn't say it, I'm sure being clean helped a lot!

Andalus Expat

07-30-20, 08:41

The point of the forum is too share information about mongering, whether it be about specific girls or clubs. In some places information on one may be more relevant than in others.

I used to (pre-covid) spend a lot of time in Curacao and there is only once place to monger (Campo Alegre), information on specific chicas was very helpful as they could only be on island for 3 months. Unfortunately Campo is now bankrupt, thanks to covid (and poor management). I know a number of Colombian / Dominican girls in the business, so I am very interested in "economics" of the business and how things are being affected in Spain where some of them are.

You may be a club man, but I think these are a lot more guys who like the casa / villa scene. I am sure a lot of us want to know what the future holds for these businesses and are thankful for information AndalusExpat has provided. I would like to see more information on the casas / villas and apartment experiences. I am thankful for your info on E92 (prices, chicas, etc.) but I don't need to know how much you won / loss at the roulette table, that doesn't help me find my next experience. The overall state of play (I. E. Economics) is important in my decision on where I might travel (when I can).You're right, Osoblanco. I don't think the majority off us need the illusion that a puti club provides. A bar with pretty girls where you can go through the motions of chatting them up knowing you'll always score. We prefer to keep our social life real and hookers as providers of hot, steamy sex with a professional who knows what she's doing and will suit our tastes. It must be the majority, as there's a few hundred of the former girls and thousands of the latter. I suppose we all patronize puticlubs when we first come down here. It's the gateway to the paid sex experience. Most of us prefer to explore further.

Personally, I've never understood the attraction of FKKs. But then my Germany was when there were two of them and four Berlins. FKK still stood for freikorperkultur. Went to one once. Lot of pallid, podgy middle-aged Germans walking around naked and hilariously playing tennis. I don't really understand the attraction of being in a place full of naked women. That's not sexy. That's natural. But Germans are weird. They did have some good clubs though. Proper clubs. There were a couple I went to with US military. Tables to dine at and good food, A stage with musicians, a comic and erotic performers. A sprinkling of attractive women who would be your companion for conversation, dancing and a trip to the bedroom if you fancied, bringing one of her friends along if you thought you could go the pace. In a word, sophistication. Wonder if they still have them? There's certainly one in Brussels. The current incarnation of FKK sounds like dining out at McDonalds. But as I said, Germans are weird.

PayForIt

07-30-20, 12:27

I've learned a lot from the responses to my last report:

1. People don't want to know about experiences with girls in clubs. Such reports are "boring" or "what I did on my holidays".

2. People don't want to know about gaming in the club casinos!

3. There is a greater appetite for knowing about the Spanish economy.

4. There are a large number of forum members who are interested in villas / casas (even though reports on what happened in them are few and far between).

As my experiences are mainly clubs related, it suggests to me that my own reporting in the CDS thread has become boring to some. Apologies. I am grateful for the "great reports" comments I regularly get, but it appears that several on the forum don't want reports of experiences, girls, services etc. I thought that was what the forum was for. I must be mistaken.

No disrespect to OsoBlanco but with zero contributions of reports to the forum I find it a bit annoying that you consider you can tell me what to report on and what not to. Please refer me to your multiple reports on the villas and casas and girls in them.

But it matters not what I think. If the information I impart in the forum has become boring there is no point in me posting it or wasting the time of others who read it.

Hence I've set up a new Spanish thread. Costa Del Sol Club Reports only. Those of us interested in reporting on girls, service, prices etc will enjoy sharing those experiences in that thread. If nobody does I'll happily close it down. If it is used then great. Those not interested in reports of what is happening in the clubs, service, girls or "what happened on my holidays", will not need to even access and waste time reading stuff they find boring. As for the main CDS thread. It's emphasis has become about economics and villas or casas (not that I've seen much on the latter which is a shame) - and for me, that stuff is not what the CDS thread should be about. Or of any interest to me. So, it's been great but "adios".

OsoBlanco

07-30-20, 14:21

But it matters not what I think. If the information I impart in the forum has become boring there is no point in me posting it or wasting the time of others who read it.I am surprised that you have been able to make so many posts without receiving any constructive criticism before. I am not sure how I managed to ruffle your feathers so easily. These forums are full of different views and opinions on many subjects. We all have different styles, likes and interests. You can always skip over the "boring" economic posts that you don't care for.

Generally, I have been appreciative of your reports (and I said so) and I do want to see more reports on experiences, services and prices.

ShooBree

07-30-20, 21:46

PayForIt

07-30-20, 23:06

I am surprised that you have been able to make so many posts without receiving any constructive criticism before. I am not sure how I managed to ruffle your feathers so easily. These forums are full of different views and opinions on many subjects. We all have different styles, likes and interests. You can always skip over the "boring" economic posts that you don't care for.

Generally, I have been appreciative of your reports (and I said so) and I do want to see more reports on experiences, services and prices.No worries but with respect, having looked at your profile you have made zero posts in ANY thread other than the one you made here. I am equally surprised you felt that you should be making any criticism whatsoever in your very first post, but clearly that is up to you. Constructive criticism is not warranted from a person who made zero posts ever to someone who has made well over 1000 in probably 20 forums (and that's just on ISG! A little decorum would not have been amiss. Telling me how to use the forum ('you can skip over boring posts') is also pretty rich when coming from someone who has never used the forums to somebody very experienced in their use.

But to give some balance, it wasn't really your post that "ruffled my feathers". A throwaway comment about playing roulette wasn't going to do that. It's more the feeling that another very experienced member (Andalus Expat), whose opinion is valued in this forum, considers that the posts on what happens in clubs are just boring and holiday recollections. And moreover, to be honest, with only a couple of exceptions, he is right that nobody is really reporting in this thread these days. That said, I cannot recall a report from him on his experiences for some time. One guy did report a couple of weeks ago and was accused of being a troll! Whilst I may not have agreed with his first post, he did actually take the time to visit a club a few times, and to report on his experiences with girls. I also feel very sorry for regular members who are unable to attend at all due to the travel situation.

It's no big deal. When you look at the German forums, (and I have seemingly needed reminding that Germany is not only about FKKs - which I knew very well having spent a lot of time / years there), you will see that there are forums only for clubs, then for cities etc. Ditto other locations where there are sub forums just for reports on clubs. So rather than have to skip over reports in any forum, least of all one where there is sadly very little contribution, I decided to spread it so that those interested in mongering in clubs on the CDS can read a dedicated forum, and those interested in everything else on the CDS, villas, casas, independents, the economy etc can no doubt continue reading this thread. If it works great. If not, no harm in trying and as the moderator I will delete the newly created forum.

As you have not posted on any experiences at all yet, in any forum on ISG, perhaps instead of expressing views on other member's reports (good or bad), and a desire to receive more information, you might consider contributing some reports of your own which I look forward to reading.

PayForIt

07-30-20, 23:16

But who cares about your opinion? No one does. This is not a forum to review others posts. I suggest that you either start writing reports related to the hobby or get lost. You haven't contributed with anything to this forum, "Payforit" has contributed fantastically. Especially considering the situation in Spain, Europe, and the whole World.Many thanks for the support and kind words but I don't believe OsoBlanco intended to cause any issue. I hadn't actually seen your response to him before I had written my reply which echo's yours in calling for some reporting before commenting. It's always good to see new members of any forum so no problem for me. And I am genuine in saying I hope OsoBlanco does indeed report. A member who calls himself the White Bear must be familiar with the hobby (given the use of that term in the German forums) so I'm hopeful we will see some good reports from OsoBlanco.

I was intending to head to Germany on Monday but alas the travel situation and COVID etc are making all plans very difficult if not impossible. Hence I'm likely to be hitting the wonderful Spanish puticlubs for a while longer yet!

PayForIt

07-30-20, 23:55

I suppose we all patronize puticlubs when we first come down here. It's the gateway to the paid sex experience. Most of us prefer to explore further.

Personally, I've never understood the attraction of FKKs. But then my Germany was when there were two of them and four Berlins. FKK still stood for freikorperkultur. Went to one once. Lot of pallid, podgy middle-aged Germans walking around naked and hilariously playing tennis. I don't really understand the attraction of being in a place full of naked women. That's not sexy. That's natural. But Germans are weird. They did have some good clubs though. Proper clubs. There were a couple I went to with US military. Tables to dine at and good food, A stage with musicians, a comic and erotic performers. A sprinkling of attractive women who would be your companion for conversation, dancing and a trip to the bedroom if you fancied, bringing one of her friends along if you thought you could go the pace. In a word, sophistication. Wonder if they still have them? There's certainly one in Brussels. The current incarnation of FKK sounds like dining out at McDonalds. But as I said, Germans are weird.As to the clubs being for people who only just moved, with respect, that is nonsense. I know two expats who have lived on the CDS for over 30 years who go to Glass palace Estepona every week. "Adventuring further" usually means independents (bait and switch) or your kind of set up. A villa. Which I have used and really enjoyed (Casa masa and Villa Walla) but please show me more than 5 posts on experiences in villas in the past year? I don't think guys use them that much and the prices are crazy. 250/ hour last time I was at Casamasa with 3 golfing buddies 3 years ago. Perhaps it has all changed and prices have dropped. But your recent posts suggest not when you commented on one girl who is scrambling for one 30 minute booking per day. That doesn't sound to me like "adventuring further" is very popular compared to the large numbers in the clubs. To each their own.

Your comments on FKKs, with respect, shows you know very little about how they now operate. I have been to them over 100 times in the past 8 years. I think I have visited 27 of them from the very biggest (Sharks, Oase, Artemis, Palace, Mainhattan, Samya, Harmony, Oceans, Living Room, Paradise, Sunshine) to some very tiny but excellent FKKs (Romer in Dresden for example).

No problem with you considering being surrounded by 100 naked women not sexy. The first time I went was to Artemis. I had my towel around me and was embarrassed for the thick end of an hour as it was very obvious I had rock hard boner and it was impossible to hide it without sitting down. Did I find being surrounded by many stunning naked women sexy? Erm, let me think about that for a nanosecond. Absolutely!!

I get that nudity is not always sexy. But the FKKs have dessous day with the ladies all walking around in sexy underwear. And other than in the main Hessen clubs the girls are not always nude. Some will cover their tits but wear tiny skirts with no knickers (incredibly sexy), whilst others cover their lower half but walk around topless.

As to wondering what the attraction of an FKK club is, over almost any other type of mongering, I can only relay my second trip to Artemis (though I have repeated the same at many other clubs) - hope it's not considered what I did on my holidays and more of an informative response to FKKs being only for "weird Germans" (which I don't accept is a sweeping statement). Indeed many FKKs are attended by guys from all over the World. Read the FKK forums and you'll see many Asians, Americans, Scandinavians, Europeans, Africans, all reporting. Note they do that because they have flown across the globe to get to FKKs. They don't do that much to get to the CDS and its villas!

So here is a recollection of the "not sexy" and "weird" scene at a modern day FKK, in this case, Oase. Arrived 12 noon, beautiful summer's day. Paid entrance fee and robed up. Headed to the sauna first, then steam room, then had a nice shower before a quick dip in the lovely large indoor pool downstairs. Shower and head to restaurant, took a nice lunch surrounded by some very pretty girls, talked to a few. Left lunch to go lie on a sun lounger by the outdoor pool to take in the lovely weather. Loved watching 10-20 slim, sexy naked girls in high heels walk around the edge of the pool. No approaches from them. Just happy to be in the sun. Other naked girls were sunbathing only feet away. Approached by two very sexy girls who insisted upon rubbing suntan oil all over me. Received an excellent BBBJ from the both in the sun, nobody gave a damn. After a while, got into the pool with the both with a lot of playing with one another. Called time after 30 minutes, paid them 60 e each for their time / BBBJ / frolicking. It is 60/30 in Artemis but 50/30 nearly everywhere else. At one point in Cologne at Samya it was 50 first 30 minutes, then 25 euros for every following 30 minutes! Fabulously cheap.

Needed some recovery. Inside went to the large gym. Worked out for an hour. Sauna, shower, headed to downstairs Hammam, Turkish bath, followed by a fabulous 1 hour professional massage. Recovered, back out to the pool for more observations of the many girls. Mostly naked but not all. One hour session with a blonde with an incredibly toned body. Terrific. Paid the 120 euros. Out to the garden area to relax and sleep for an hour to recover.

Night arrived and an entirely new crop of girls to see. Party atmosphere in the bar, professional pole dancers, beer flowing, a couple of trips to the restaurant for snacks / food, two evening sessions including one threesome for 1. 5 hours in one of the large themed rooms upstairs. We had started when they approached me whilst I was sitting watching some porn in the kino downstairs.

Left the club feeling fit from the workout, very relaxed from the sunbathing / sauna / steam / massage. Well fed, and a day of viewing many fabulously pretty and sexy girls as well as having had multiple sessions.

Was it sexy? Hell it was! Was it "weird"? Well if it was I was hooked on being weird. The Germans are not weird. They have managed to make the above type experience available all over the country and it is 100% legal. The girls in Artemis have compulsory STI tests from a doctor weekly (or don't work). They are all guaranteed to be over 18. It is the same in most FKKs.

They are truly fabulous places where you can feel like Julius Caesar himself. If you really think this is dining out at McDonalds I'm afraid you really need to get back to modern day Germany to experience the whole thing. It is not dining at McDonalds. It is feasting at a banquet table where there are so many options you wonder which to try. I have enjoyed many many hours in FKKs and for me, and I respect that we are all different, they hands down beat any other type of mongering. I have not sadly had the chance to monger in Brazil (as The Cane mentioned) and would love to try it. Of course there are also not so great days at FKKs. But that is true about any mongering venue.

And Cane. Yep - our Melissa was a one in a lifetime girl. For me still the most facially attractive woman I have ever had sex with (be that in a club / FKK or wherever).

MagicSheep74

07-31-20, 06:30

I started this hobby around 25 years ago and my taste's and method's of getting paid sex have just evolved over time.

I generally just adapt dependant on which city I am visiting.

Asia. Freelancers at high end clubs. Mixx, Spasso BKK + Brix Singapore.

Dubai. High end club freelancers and seeking arrangements.

Germany. FKK's not a really big fan but see the attraction.

London. Escort Agencies. Divas's + Babylon girls.

South America. Clubs only. Old HELP closed now and Scandalo SP.

If I did live in Barcelona or Madrid I would personally split 50% of my time going to independents - girlsbcn.com, and then the other 50% of my mongering time / money going to clubs like vive-madrid.com + Pigmalion pick up joint. Reason. Barcelona and Madrid have a really strong independent scene if you know which local forums to refer to, before you take the plunge. So in-turn less chance of disappointment once the apartment door is closed.

Anyway, the Costa de Sol is my home for 6 months of the year for various reasons and I always miss it greatly when I am away. I feel the independent scene is not really strong, but I sometimes take the chance just for pure convenience. There is more chance of disappointment compared to some other cities, simply because there is very rarely reviews from other mongers for reference before taking the plunge.

When in the CDS my preference is for the clubs, simply because its 30-40 independents under the one roof. I enjoy the banter, bar, variety, and opportunity to establish a little chemistry before parting with my cash.

On occasion's I do visit the villa's in Marbella, which although more pricey, they are 10 minutes from my house which allows me to drink and party as much as I like without running the risk of getting stopped by the police driving home.

I am happy to split my posts going future. Clubs.

- Independents / Villa's.

I've been away for a year, thoroughly looking forward to getting back next month.

Stay safe.