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Andalus Expat
07-31-20, 11:53
As to the clubs being for people who only just moved, with respect, that is nonsense. I know two expats who have lived on the CDS for over 30 years who go to Glass palace Estepona every week. "Adventuring further" usually means independents (bait and switch) or your kind of set up. A villa. Which I have used and really enjoyed (Casa masa and Villa Walla) but please show me more than 5 posts on experiences in villas in the past year? I don't think guys use them that much and the prices are crazy. 250/ hour last time I was at Casamasa with 3 golfing buddies 3 years ago. Perhaps it has all changed and prices have dropped. But your recent posts suggest not when you commented on one girl who is scrambling for one 30 minute booking per day. That doesn't sound to me like "adventuring further" is very popular compared to the large numbers in the clubs. To each their own.
Your comments on FKKs, with respect, shows you know very little about how they now operate. I have been to them over 100 times in the past 8 years. I think I have visited 27 of them from the very biggest (Sharks, Oase, Artemis, Palace, Mainhattan, Samya, Harmony, Oceans, Living Room, Paradise, Sunshine) to some very tiny but excellent FKKs (Romer in Dresden for example).
No problem with you considering being surrounded by 100 naked women not sexy. The first time I went was to Artemis. I had my towel around me and was embarrassed for the thick end of an hour as it was very obvious I had rock hard boner and it was impossible to hide it without sitting down. Did I find being surrounded by many stunning naked women sexy? Erm, let me think about that for a nanosecond. Absolutely!!
I get that nudity is not always sexy. But the FKKs have dessous day with the ladies all walking around in sexy underwear. And other than in the main Hessen clubs the girls are not always nude. Some will cover their tits but wear tiny skirts with no knickers (incredibly sexy), whilst others cover their lower half but walk around topless.
As to wondering what the attraction of an FKK club is, over almost any other type of mongering, I can only relay my second trip to Artemis (though I have repeated the same at many other clubs) - hope it's not considered what I did on my holidays and more of an informative response to FKKs being only for "weird Germans" (which I don't accept is a sweeping statement). Indeed many FKKs are attended by guys from all over the World. Read the FKK forums and you'll see many Asians, Americans, Scandinavians, Europeans, Africans, all reporting. Note they do that because they have flown across the globe to get to FKKs. They don't do that much to get to the CDS and its villas!
So here is a recollection of the "not sexy" and "weird" scene at a modern day FKK, in this case, Oase. Arrived 12 noon, beautiful summer's day. Paid entrance fee and robed up. Headed to the sauna first, then steam room, then had a nice shower before a quick dip in the lovely large indoor pool downstairs. Shower and head to restaurant, took a nice lunch surrounded by some very pretty girls, talked to a few. Left lunch to go lie on a sun lounger by the outdoor pool to take in the lovely weather. Loved watching 10-20 slim, sexy naked girls in high heels walk around the edge of the pool. No approaches from them. Just happy to be in the sun. Other naked girls were sunbathing only feet away. Approached by two very sexy girls who insisted upon rubbing suntan oil all over me. Received an excellent BBBJ from the both in the sun, nobody gave a damn. After a while, got into the pool with the both with a lot of playing with one another. Called time after 30 minutes, paid them 60 e each for their time / BBBJ / frolicking. It is 60/30 in Artemis but 50/30 nearly everywhere else. At one point in Cologne at Samya it was 50 first 30 minutes, then 25 euros for every following 30 minutes! Fabulously cheap..I don't think I've ever been to a villa, cost 250€ an hour. Unless you count Milady's, which I suppose could be regarded as a villa. And that's been more in connection with business interests in PB than personal entertainment. If I was going to spend 250/ h it'd be with one of the high echelon xicas have flats in Marbella and Malaga. Out in a class all of their own. Like renting a Ferrari. Price range for villas is usually 100-150. But I've no doubt you can spend any sort of money. If there's a market people will be selling into it. Incidentally, I have no direct connection with any villas. Or apartments. Did help to run one for a time, few years back. Had my own one, for a while. But more for amusement than anything else. Certainly not for profit. There's no money in the sex business. The supply side far exceeds the demand so what money there is gets spread too thin. I've certainly watched more than a couple of villas go bust. Doesn't help that most of the people in the business haven't the slightest idea what they're doing. And that's from the top right down to the girl opening her legs on the bed. Half the time, don't even know what they're selling. (Clue. It may not be sex) Even if you did use proper business and marketing techniques the people working for you would fight you every inch of the way.
I'd say you're looking for an entirely experience to me, PFI. There's a good social scene down here to plug into. I can sit round a pool with half naked women any weekend for free. And get fed and watered as well. Sex? I take one with me. And this is the CDS. It's seething with attractive women. Half of who are some degree of puta. It's just a case of establishing the price.
I know absolutely nothing about the current incarnation of FKKs Nor am I the slightest bit interested. My reflex on looking at a naked woman is to talk to the face, not oggle the body. I don't find anything particularly novel or arousing in it. You ever been back stage at a theatre? Behind the scenes at a fashion show? If you want to look at naked women, come here. Maybe you can talk them into closing the bathroom door when showering or having a piss. Maybe that's it. To me, putas are working professionals like lawyers or plumbers. Or car salesmen. When they're working you're getting sales patter. When they're not, they're just people. My girlfriend's a working puta. The person uses her work name is an entirely different person from the one cooks dinner.
Andalus Expat
07-31-20, 21:54
And the big question, Mr Sheep, is whether we can track down that Dominicana again. Any sightings?
MagicSheep74
07-31-20, 23:20
And the big question, Mr Sheep, is whether we can track down that Dominicana again. Any sightings?I was really hoping that you can help me out on that one! I've been away for a long time and I thought you had your finger on the pulse. She was one great independent find, LOL.
My must has an arse like a broken cat-flap by now. I'll track her down through pasion.com.
Thanks for the several PM's confirming guys will post in the new clubs only thread. Until it gains some traction I'll post here merely that I posted a new report on Club activities in the Club only thread tonight (please scroll down to the blogs section of the Spain forum). Obviously those not interested in reports about Spanish clubs will skip but that's fine. Happy mongering.
Andalus Expat
08-01-20, 14:42
I was really hoping that you can help me out on that one! I've been away for a long time and I thought you had your finger on the pulse. She was one great independent find, LOL.
My must has an arse like a broken cat-flap by now. I'll track her down through pasion.com.Don't think I haven't tried. But she's had 5 names to my knowledge & she won't necessarily be claiming to be Dominicana. I've even tried search terms 18 - 28 + griego + mulata + toda espana without hitting pay dirt. I asked the encargada at Las Lagunas if she had a go-to. But I'm thinking she wouldn't give me one if she had.
Soraya's a pretty good substitute. Even tinier. A lot tighter. FFS go carefully. Last time I ploughed the Dominicana's, could have thrown a tennis ball down it without touching the sides. * And just as enthusiastic. Only works weekends though.
*She's the only candidate for the 9 cm x 30 cm buttplug, lurks in the toybox, I can think of. The girl I bought it for has been trying for six months without success. Become an obsession with her. Be good to get her round, show her how its done.
I am surprised that you have been able to make so many posts without receiving any constructive criticism before. I am not sure how I managed to ruffle your feathers so easily. These forums are full of different views and opinions on many subjects. We all have different styles, likes and interests. You can always skip over the "boring" economic posts that you don't care for.
Generally, I have been appreciative of your reports (and I said so) and I do want to see more reports on experiences, services and prices.With over 1000 contributions a senior member naturally is in the top of the ISG contributors hierarchy. PayForIts reviews of his punting exploits are great accounts of the money that he has spent of which we are benefiting for free! Create some reviews that we may benefit from reading!
With over 1000 contributions a senior member naturally is in the top of the ISG contributors hierarchy. PayForIts reviews of his punting exploits are great accounts of the money that he has spent of which we are benefiting for free! Create some reviews that we may benefit from reading!PayForIt's field reports are great, and I always look forward to them. I've even seen him in action before at Scandalo LOL! Before somebody criticizes his contributions, they better darn well be making some solid ones of their own I say!
Andalus Expat
08-03-20, 12:11
PayForIt's field reports are great, and I always look forward to them. I've even seen him in action before at Scandalo LOL! Before somebody criticizes his contributions, they better darn well be making some solid ones of their own I say!There's no argument PFI's made a lot of posts. And they are very well written. No doubt entertaining, if you're a club enthusiast. But you don't assess a TV station by the hours broadcast. It's the viewing figures are important. I've just flicked back though 10 pages of back posts. Not the latest 10, but 20 before those. Long before Covid raised its ugly head. The majority of posts are club related by a handful of club aficianados. Scandalos and Estark figure prominently. So the basic subject matter is maybe a hundred girls. Even if you take all of what could be loosely described as clubs, from the Granada border to the Cadiz and for a half hour drive inland. Venues I doubt the people post here have even heard of let alone visited. You're probably talking about less than 500 girls. Estimates of the total number of prostitutes operating on the CDS alone top 5000. Could be twice that. Depends how you define a prostitute. So clubs are a small, specialized end of the market. Most punters aren't going to clubs. Which seems to be reflected in the people I know. None of the punter friends I have here, both Spanish and foreign, ever mention them as places to go. My website has generated a lot of enquiries for information, by phonecall & Whatsapp. None have been about clubs.
How does this affect the CDS board of ISG. When I first came to Spain, I found ISG a useful resource for learning what's what across the entirety of the puta scene. Looking quickly at some of the other Spanish boards. Barca, Madrid, Alicante. They still are. There's reports on agencies, apartments and houses and independents. If I came to the CDS board, as it has been over the last couple of years, I might go back half a dozen pages and give up. Information goes stale. If you're not interested in clubs, there's not much value in it. If you don't see posts of interest to you, you don't make your own reports. You presume no-one's interested.
PayForIt's creation of a separate CDS club board seems eminently sensible. Although it might leave this one moribund for a while. I'd go further. I think a big club forum for the whole of Spain would make a lot of sense. (I noticed Madrid's entry page included two regular contributors to this forum, posting on club related subjects.) Since big club girls are all on the same circuit and club punters favour clubs all over Spain, there's greater affinity between them than there is with other aspects of the pass-time.
PayForIt's creation of a separate CDS club board seems eminently sensible. Although it might leave this one moribund for a while. I'd go further. I think a big club forum for the whole of Spain would make a lot of sense. (I noticed Madrid's entry page included two regular contributors to this forum, posting on club related subjects.)Actually I think this is the wrong way around. I just went through the last 10 pages of this forum. On page 10 there is a post from last December by a chap called Coastguy about a villa experience. It is the only actual report on anything other than clubs (save for your comments) in all 10 pages. It follows that the CDS forum should be dedicated to Clubs. It is what the vast majority of posts are about if you go back over a year, and there should be separate board for CDS-non-clubs which will get less attention but will still be of interest to those who like that form of mongering or independents.
Actually I think this is the wrong way around. I just went through the last 10 pages of this forum. On page 10 there is a post from last December by a chap called Coastguy about a villa experience. It is the only actual report on anything other than clubs (save for your comments) in all 10 pages. It follows that the CDS forum should be dedicated to Clubs. It is what the vast majority of posts are about if you go back over a year, and there should be separate board for CDS-non-clubs which will get less attention but will still be of interest to those who like that form of mongering or independents.I think there is room here for both villas and clubs, and saw no need for a separate thread. Who shows up here is all by chance, and they should feel free to write about whatever their real experiences have been. But if there were to be a separate thread, then yeah I would agree do one for the villas and not for the clubs. Why the hell should discussions about the clubs be shunted to the side and this well-established thread be given over to the villas? This thread is too much about the clubs and you don't like that you say? Then establish a new thread for the villas yourself, write more reports about the villas yourself versus complaining, or stick with other sites mentioned where mongers seem to be giving more attention to what you would like to read about, instead of criticizing the contributions of seasoned mongers who give consistently good reports. And then expecting that the whole tenor of a particular thread should be changed to suit the particular focus that you want, when the majority was satisfied. This is how I see it, and what I would do myself if I wasn't getting what I wanted out of a particular thread or site. Just saying. PayForIt you need not have done what you did if you ask me. Andalus Expat should have done that, or he should write more of what he wants to be here, or go to other sites where he can find what he needs if he isn't getting it here. That's the way I see it.
I think there is room here for both villas and clubs, and saw no need for a separate thread. Who shows up here is all by chance, and they should feel free to write about whatever their real experiences have been. But if there were to be a separate thread, then yeah I would agree do one for the villas and not for the clubs. Why the hell should discussions about the clubs be shunted to the side and this well-established thread be given over to the villas? This thread is too much about the clubs and you don't like that you say? Then establish a new thread for the villas yourself, write more reports about the villas yourself versus complaining, or stick with other sites mentioned where mongers seem to be giving more attention to what you would like to read about, instead of criticizing the contributions of seasoned mongers who give consistently good reports. And then expecting that the whole tenor of a particular thread should be changed to suit the particular focus that you want, when the majority was satisfied. This is how I see it, and what I would do myself if I wasn't getting what I wanted out of a particular thread or site. Just saying. PayForIt you need not have done what you did if you ask me. Andalus Expat should have done that, or he should write more of what he wants to be here, or go to other sites where he can find what he needs if he isn't getting it here. That's the way I see it.Fair comment and you are always balanced in them. It clearly annoys Andalus Expat to read "what I did on my holidays" reports on clubs but in fact when I started researching the forum going back, there are almost zero contributions from anyone on independents and villas. The odd person has posted something about an independent in Fuengirola town. That's about it. So to my mind this forum is already about clubs more than it is villas etc. Anyways, it's done now so it is what it is. I am humbled by the very generous comments of most about my posts and I've tried to keep them a mix of information with details of clubs and girls which benefit punters thinking of attending them, and humorous. Of course they won't be to everyone's tastes. Going back years ago I was a regular at Centre Malaga for erotic massages and reported regularly here on particularly blonde Valeria (who moved to Zen in Fuengirola) and there was another guy who posted frequently on the Malaga massage options. But for at least the best part of a year it's nearly all been about the clubs. As you say, anyone should be able to post whatever they want. I think I need to just ignore posts from anyone who doesn't actually contribute any content of value with details of venues / establishments / girls / prices they have visited recently. IMHO that is what this forum should be all about.
Andalus Expat
08-04-20, 10:35
I think there is room here for both villas and clubs, and saw no need for a separate thread. Who shows up here is all by chance, and they should feel free to write about whatever their real experiences have been. But if there were to be a separate thread, then yeah I would agree do one for the villas and not for the clubs. Why the hell should discussions about the clubs be shunted to the side and this well-established thread be given over to the villas? This thread is too much about the clubs and you don't like that you say? Then establish a new thread for the villas yourself, write more reports about the villas yourself versus complaining, or stick with other sites mentioned where mongers seem to be giving more attention to what you would like to read about, instead of criticizing the contributions of seasoned mongers who give consistently good reports. And then expecting that the whole tenor of a particular thread should be changed to suit the particular focus that you want, when the majority was satisfied. This is how I see it, and what I would do myself if I wasn't getting what I wanted out of a particular thread or site. Just saying. PayForIt you need not have done what you did if you ask me. Andalus Expat should have done that, or he should write more of what he wants to be here, or go to other sites where he can find what he needs if he isn't getting it here. That's the way I see it.I've just gone back over my own posts over the past 18 months and there's about twenty deal with non-club related matters. About half introducing readers to either girls or non-club venues. I probably could have made another dozen posts on girls I've come across in the period, but I try to restrict myself to information that could be useful. A blow by blow account with a hot xica may be entertaining, but there's not much point if the girl in question is only here for a limited period and going to be 500 km away before anyone reads the post. To me, that'd be "what I did on my holidays' material. Of little interest to anyone but the writer. I also don't do reports on girls are not worth considering. (Unless it's an Avoid at any cost! Of which there's been a couple) Chica was here at the weekend. She'd tagged along with one of the other girls, I'd met for a drink and chat. The pair came back to the flat to carry on imbibing and chat with my girlfriend. So we all got pissed I ended up getting hustled by the new arrival. Quick 50€ romp in the spare bedroom. What do I say about her? Competent professional puta. It was an all oral service with a CIM finish. Just not the sort of puta I like. It was obvious she was determined to make some money out of the evening and I was the available victim. I should be stronger willed.
And since I'm doing reports, this one's from between starting this post and finishing it. Got a message from a girl called herself Salome, said she'd like to drop by and see me this morning. Meant nothing to me. I didn't recall any Salomes. But she said she knew me, so why not? Incredibly, for a Latina, she turned up prompt at 10 AM. With friend. And was a Colombiana of 20 I know under her real name. Small, slim, good body. Does pretty well anything. Oral without, duos, anal, the works. Excellent playmate. The friend's another Colombiana in her 30's. Taller dyed blonde, speaks good English. Bit more meat on her but quite presentable. Services much the same as Salome's. Salome tells me they've rented an apartment in Los Boliches and her sister and possibly another girl will be working there. I might drop by one day, get a look at them. The blonde's definitely worth further investigation.
Back to board matters, I particularly omitted the most recent 10 pages when discussing past reports. They're irrelevant. They cover the period at the start of the year, when hardly anyone comes down here and then lockdown and quarantine. There's nearly two months without a single post. There's still very few people visiting Spain, compared with previous years. Looking back further, club related posts come mainly from a handful of enthusiasts. Although Mr Sheep has more diverse interests (Sorry. Still no luck on our Dominicana) Pepe hasn't been here since mid last year. Don't think the Bear has either.
TeddyBears
08-04-20, 17:27
As I see it, it all comes down to information really.
If it's about something you aren't interested in just scroll down. A few years back in this thread we had two forum members Paul Scotland and So Happy writing a lot on street walkers and swinger clubs, I remember particularly Kamelot in Torremolinos mentioned a lot by those gentlemen! LOL It was not something I had any real interest in but some others might have and their posts was always well written and a bit of humorous as well so all good in my book. Miss their reports to be honest!
As I wrote last time, I want there to be a lot of well written reviews of independents girls in the Malaga / Fuengirola / Marbella area. But at the moment there are not many, if you look at the Spanish forum Spalumi.com there are only a handfull and are they even trustworthy! I doubt it. Same with villas / apartments it would be so much easier if there were some kind of information pointing punters in the right direction on which villas / apartments to visit and which ones to stay away from. But there lacks information, which is what we all want really. Then if this information is about clubs or villas or independent girls does it really matter?!
I will come down and visit next week and will be sure to report on my findings, I will for sure be visiting the two main clubs but also a few independent girls has caught my eyes so will be reporting on my experiences with them as well. Until then stay safe!
This thread is too much about the clubs and you don't like that you say? Then establish a new thread for the villas yourself, write more reports about the villas yourself versus complaining, or stick with other sites mentioned where mongers seem to be giving more attention to what you would like to read about, instead of criticizing the contributions of seasoned mongers who give consistently good reports. And then expecting that the whole tenor of a particular thread should be changed to suit the particular focus that you want, when the majority was satisfied. This is how I see it, and what I would do myself if I wasn't getting what I wanted out of a particular thread or site. Just saying. PayForIt you need not have done what you did if you ask me. Andalus Expat should have done that, or he should write more of what he wants to be here, or go to other sites where he can find what he needs if he isn't getting it here. That's the way I see it.My old wingman Angus has never been a club man in fact you could say he enjoys in a Presbyterian preachers fashion criticizing them! Of course based on the CDS he has time to access the SPs that are truly indie that 98% of the readers of ISG are not and do not have the time to research them or network with them. Spalumi is truly awful for the CDS and that has quite a Puti Club representation on it as well so I guess frustration gets the better of him when he is firing off his cannons! The Spanish will never contribute to this page. They can't even be bothered to contribute much to Spalumi! More frustration for Angus who is fighting the irreversible fact that the Northern Europeans that contribute here are non residents! Its a great suggestion that as his interest in Putas is in the vast minority he should set up his own subcategory LOL! Really it would be best to continue as we were and those that spend the money and take the time to report continue to do so with of course the core "bullet points " of information that really makes the reviews useful whilst the yet to add a review contingent but have lots of advice as to how to structure a review are ignored!
Went 92 tonight for first time since last week and a lot has changed.
Arrived at 11.30 pm they are now doing contact tracing so you have to put your details down on entry. I'm sure a lot of people will put fake details imagine your mrs reading a text from the brass gaff telling you have to self isolate.
There was 2/3 other punters there and about 40 girls.
The casino has been shut. Roullette machine turned off and the bar has been shut as well (they will only deliver to you in person).
I'm staying at parents house so had a bad gut feeling they may have had a case reported so I did a u turn and went back home. Getting a hotel tomorrow for my final night here and I'll go back in peace knowing I won't spread it to them if I get it. Proper want to bang that Ivanka trump looking bird Ina have to get it out my system before I leave.
I don't know how the club will survive if measures get worse and they have to fully shut plus all the girls were fully clothed now.
Andalus Expat
08-05-20, 10:10
My old wingman Angus has never been a club man in fact you could say he enjoys in a Presbyterian preachers fashion criticizing them! Of course based on the CDS he has time to access the SPs that are truly indie that 98% of the readers of ISG are not and do not have the time to research them or network with them. Spalumi is truly awful for the CDS and that has quite a Puti Club representation on it as well so I guess frustration gets the better of him when he is firing off his cannons! The Spanish will never contribute to this page. They can't even be bothered to contribute much to Spalumi! More frustration for Angus who is fighting the irreversible fact that the Northern Europeans that contribute here are non residents! Its a great suggestion that as his interest in Putas is in the vast minority he should set up his own subcategory LOL! Really it would be best to continue as we were and those that spend the money and take the time to report continue to do so with of course the core "bullet points " of information that really makes the reviews useful whilst the yet to add a review contingent but have lots of advice as to how to structure a review are ignored!You're right about Splalumi. But who looks at Splalumi? The go-to resource for the CDS is Lumismalaga. Looking at the board stats, the posts ratio clubs versus other puta options is currently running at 660:55,000 So by Lumismalaga's metric, clubs virtually don't exist. The Spanish seem to share my attitude. If you know where they are, what else is there to talk about?
"The Northern Europeans who contribute here are non-residents" is rather the point. So what about the ones who do? The girls I know have substantial numbers of foreign clients. Liz was showing me her Whatsap messages for the past week or so and telling me who they were from. She's got a solid regular client base and has come through Coronapanic relatively unscathed, even during lockdown. About 20% foreigners. Irish figure prominently. As far as she's concerned, they're the better part of her regular clients. Most of them have property here and are resident at least part of the year. It's similar for the truly independent xicas I know. Significant numbers of foreign clients but by far the better clients. Longer appointments, more considerate, they even give propinas! It's for their benefit I created the website. Not the people who post on here. There simply aren't enough of you to be worth the effort. Apartments don't do so well out of foreigners. I'd say its their own fault. They just won't adapt to the requirements of non-Spanish punters. I was messaging with an encargada last week. Ran to over a couple dozen lines of Whatsappery. All her side in slang puta Spanish. I understand much of it. Do you?
If I wanted to create a board for indies, apartments and villas why would I do one here? I'd ask the guys manage Lumismalaga about an English language section and hope the clubfanboyz didn't find it. But I think you need to ask yourself the question, why expats here aren't using this board? As far as I know, it's the only english language one for the CDS. They're the ones going to know what's happening down here It used to be popular. There's a phenomenon with forums goes right back to pre-WorldWideWeb, Usernet days. They end up as discussions between a few individuals but don't attract new blood. Eventually fade away.
Andalus Expat
08-05-20, 11:51
Went 92 tonight for first time since last week and a lot has changed.
Arrived at 11.30 pm they are now doing contact tracing so you have to put your details down on entry. I'm sure a lot of people will put fake details imagine your mrs reading a text from the brass gaff telling you have to self isolate.
I'm staying at parents house so had a bad gut feeling they may have had a case reported so I did a u turn and went back home. Getting a hotel tomorrow for my final night here and I'll go back in peace knowing I won't spread it to them if I get it. Proper want to bang that Ivanka trump looking bird Ina have to get it out my system before I leave..If you're genuinely concerned about contracting and passing on C19, it's beats me you're going to clubs at all. Think it through. If you see an independent puta, excluding her social / family life she has intimate contact with maybe 3 to 4 clients a day. In these times, possibly less. With clubs you have 40 odd girls living in close proximity. They each must be seeing an equal or greater number of clients to be able to afford to work in the club. Half the girls will have worked other clubs in the recent past. All over Spain. That's what they do. These are exactly the sort of scenarios epidemiologists cack their why-fronts over. The risk factor's exponentially greater.
As I see it, it all comes down to information really.
If it's about something you aren't interested in just scroll down. A few years back in this thread we had two forum members Paul Scotland and So Happy writing a lot on street walkers and swinger clubs, I remember particularly Kamelot in Torremolinos mentioned a lot by those gentlemen! LOL It was not something I had any real interest in but some others might have and their posts was always well written and a bit of humorous as well so all good in my book. Miss their reports to be honest!
As I wrote last time, I want there to be a lot of well written reviews of independents girls in the Malaga / Fuengirola / Marbella area. But at the moment there are not many, if you look at the Spanish forum Spalumi.com there are only a handfull and are they even trustworthy! I doubt it. Same with villas / apartments it would be so much easier if there were some kind of information pointing punters in the right direction on which villas / apartments to visit and which ones to stay away from. But there lacks information, which is what we all want really. Then if this information is about clubs or villas or independent girls does it really matter?!.As a newcomer I've got to say on a personal level I agree. I'm interested in the independent girls and so find the Secretgarden site helpful, I plan on selecting one off there over the next few days.
All down to preference and personal choices!
Keep up the good work guys.
Hello,
1st post.
Going Marbella tomorrow.
So far with your help I pinpointed Scandalos and Estark 92 as good places, but they are a bit further from Marbella.
Anything good with good selection in Marbella itself? (apart from Mi lady Palace which I'm told very overpriced), maybe some good independent girls?
Help is very appreciated, Thanks.
MagicSheep74
08-05-20, 23:10
Hello,
1st post.
Going Marbella tomorrow.
So far with your help I pinpointed Scandalos and Estark 92 as good places, but they are a bit further from Marbella.
Anything good with good selection in Marbella itself? (apart from Mi lady Palace which I'm told very overpriced), maybe some good independent girls?
Help is very appreciated, Thanks.Hey,
Marbella is always going to be more expensive and the independent scene changes constantly, but below is your quick guide all within a 10 minute taxi ride.
Bars with independents. Navy Bar. Puerto Banus. Every girl in the place is independent / Negotiate the price directly with the girl.
- La Habana. Puerto Banus. Not all hookers, but you'll quickly realise who is and then again negotiate the price.
Villa's - www.casamasamarbella.com - 200 Hour.
- www.mansionbabylonmarbella.com - 120 euro / 30 minutes.
Independents - - www.slumi.com/escorts/marbella:10 - All different prices. Pick a girl, then ask for a quick video call via WhatsApp before you go to avoid disappointment.
- www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres-en-malaga/marbella.htm - Same as above.
Can speak about the quality of the girls at this moment, because I had not been for a while. If you visit any of these suggested places, please report back with your findings.
Enjoy.
Andalus Expat
08-06-20, 01:08
Bars with independents. Navy Bar. Puerto Banus. Every girl in the place is independent / Negotiate the price directly with the girl..Interesting Mr Sheep. Haven't actually been in there since last summer. But on that occasion it looked a very different bar from the one of a few years ago. OK, I know there were at least two independents in there. I'd brought them with me. But apart from the girls sitting at the tables near the entrance, ignoring each other, it looked like civilians. Or at least most of the females in the main bar seemed to belong to someone and not have the puta look about them. There were a couple of pairs of unattached but showing some pretty obvious interest in them didn't produce any reaction. My two, at that point were dancing with each other and could easily have been just xicas I knew. So I should have got a result, if they were putas.
There was a quite extraordinary act on that night. Girl playing an electric violin with a lot of built in LEDs accompanied by a guy on drums. She got some really good sounds out of it, much on a jazz / blues theme. If she'd have been working, I definitely would have contemplated a couple of hour's worth. Tall skinny, nice legs, good rack, great mover.
We later moved to the Buddha, which was packed, where a girl was trying to work some scam on me involving her buddy photographing her with me. I'd guess going for a dip. Not saying it would have done her much good. I don't carry anything valuable that's accessible. But at that point my Brasilera intervened by blowing in her ear and she backed off very smartly. Tough little Salvador mulata street kid. I wouldn't argue with her, either.
Posted a report on the above club in the Club only thread this evening.
Hi,
I've been to E92 numerous times on visits previously but can't find any info on Fontanas or Cleofas. Is Fontanas located at Apartmentos Fontana Beach? Any tips on locating would be great.
Michal.
Hi,
I've been to E92 numerous times on visits previously but can't find any info on Fontanas or Cleofas. Is Fontanas located at Apartmentos Fontana Beach? Any tips on locating would be great.
Michal.Mi Michal. I have answered your queries in the clubs reports only thread.
After the disappointment of Scandalos last night needed some relief and headed to Happy Relax Massages in Puerto Banus. Been many times in the past. Only 5 girls to select from this time. Far less than the usual 8 or 9. Picked Soraya. Nice eyes and great body. Service was mechanical and rushed. Would not repeat. 150/ hour.
So far at least a very disappointing week but of course that is the life of a mongerer!
Will be returning to pastures well trodden at the weekend before leaving the CDS and don't expect to be back in 2020.
Been sampling a few independents that advertise on pasion.com. I didn't originally think there'd be any interest in reviews of them, so I unfortunately do not have their pasion.com add to link to, only the WhatsApp number they used in their add.
If you're looking on pasion and see someone interesting, you can see if the number listed is one of these I guess. Or send them a message on WhatsApp and ask for photos.
All numbers are +34 and around Fuengirola.
67xxxx907: a pair of Colombians around 25 sharing a house.
At least one with silicone breasts unfortunately. The one
I tried was friendly, photo was reasonably accurate, and
service was good.
Price: 70 EUR for half hour (but think I saw another add for
the same girls later at 60 EUR). 120 for one hour.
Rating: recommended.
67xxxx951: older Russian (35-40) with a female handler. Increased price from
what was mentioned on WhatsApp so I bailed. Photo is reasonably accurate,
but must have been taken 5+ years ago.
Rating: not recommended.
63xxxx531: around 30, Spanish. 5-10 kg overweight, but friendly
and ok service. Looked better and slimmer on the photos, but
photos were still reasonably accurate.
Price: EUR 50 for 30 minutes.
Rating: OK.
60xxxx328: Brazilian around 22-24. Friendly and service was good, but
photo did not look accurate at all. Still she looked
good enough for what I was there for, so ok.
EUR 60 for 30 minutes, 120 for hour.
Rating: OK.
67xxxx645: Colombian, possibly 24 as add claims. Mechanical, service
lack luster. Looks good though and photos are accurate.
EUR 70 for 30 minutes, 120 for hour.
Rating: recommended if you like a pretty girl with mechanical
service.
60xxxx484: Spanish, mid twenties, 5-10 kg too much. Only time I
bailed. Was not interested in doing a BBBJ, so aborted
session before it started. Tried to hustle me into
letting her keep EUR 10 because I'd "seen her [unimpressive]
breasts" by then, though I refused of course.
Sent me nasty messages later, including saying she would
report me to that webpage (pasion.com I assume), whatever
that means.
Rating: stay away.
69xxxx464: Some Chinese knocking shop I think. Photos not accurate at
all. Woman in her forties (possibly even 50) who opened the door for me said she was the
only one available at the time, though I later got the impression
that was not true at all. Only had a BBBJ, but it was good enough.
Price: EUR 50 for 30 minutes, EUR 80 for one hour.
Rating: uh, oh. Dunno. Go and see, but have a backup and
be prepared to leave? Based on their pasion.com adds
and place, I got the impression they are not-so-frequently
changing the women working there, and the one I met did
not talk much, if any, Spanish.
Andalus Expat
08-07-20, 22:15
Interesting report, Werqueq. The final entry, the Chinese, maybe Calle Asturias, a couple of roads back from the seafront? Although a search isn't producing an ad with that number. Normally they'll have a couple of younger girls there, in their 20's. Can't say Chinese girls have ever been my thing. (Thai agency girls in the West End, yes!) Never seems much fun in them. But if that's the flat it's been there several years and is fairly well known. The Russian sounds like you've been to see Lina. On the Feria Ground? I don't know which particular one of her girls you saw. She swaps the numbers around. The photos of her girls are genuine, but she tends to use the professional shots are done when they first come over from Ukraine and they and their ages never change.
You certainly did the right thing by walking when she raised the price on you. I guess you were an evening caller? Although quite what time prices rise I couldn't tell you. I've told Lina several times that she's not as clever as she thinks she is. Shouldn't think the girl was too happy, either. For the sake of a fiver, she's lost 25€.
Can't say I know any of the other girls. None of them have been here very long and I'd guess they're just passing through. The prices are maybe a little toppy. But it's been peculiar times. Some of the girls have emulated the clubs by raising prices to compensate for fewer clients. You can imagine how well that works. The brighter ones have been messaging me all week, offering sessions at 20€ off an hour. Best was from Tamara at 2:00 AM this morning, offering to come round and do everything on her extensive menu for 80€ - hour. Unfortunately, I haven't the slightest idea who Tamara is. Photos looked OK, though. And she seems to know me. But gracefully declined. She'd woken my girlfriend up, as well. And she wasn't best pleased.
Using the numbers was probably better than using the ad links. Pasion ads are often temporary and expire in a few days. Searching the number, Location-Toda Espana, may often find the same girl with a different ad or in the next town along the coast. But you need to remove the space in the number.
Been sampling a few independents that advertise on pasion.com. I didn't originally think there'd be any interest in reviews of them, so I unfortunately do not have their pasion.com add to link to, only the WhatsApp number they used in their add.
If you're looking on pasion and see someone interesting, you can see if the number listed is one of these I guess. Or send them a message on WhatsApp and ask for photos.
All numbers are +34 and around Fuengirola.
67xxxx907: a pair of Colombians around 25 sharing a house.
At least one with silicone breasts unfortunately. The one
I tried was friendly, photo was reasonably accurate, and
service was good.
Price: 70 EUR for half hour (but think I saw another add for
the same girls later at 60 EUR). 120 for one hour.
Rating: recommended.
67xxxx951: older Russian (35-40) with a female handler. Increased price from
what was mentioned on WhatsApp so I bailed. Photo is reasonably accurate,
but must have been taken 5+ years ago.
Rating: not recommended.
63xxxx531: around 30, Spanish. 5-10 kg overweight, but friendly
and ok service. Looked better and slimmer on the photos, but
photos were still reasonably accurate.
Price: EUR 50 for 30 minutes.
Rating: OK.
60xxxx328: Brazilian around 22-24. Friendly and service was good, but
photo did not look accurate at all. Still she looked
good enough for what I was there for, so ok.
EUR 60 for 30 minutes, 120 for hour.
Rating: OK.
67xxxx645: Colombian, possibly 24 as add claims. Mechanical, service
lack luster. Looks good though and photos are accurate.
EUR 70 for 30 minutes, 120 for hour.
Rating: recommended if you like a pretty girl with mechanical
service.
60xxxx484: Spanish, mid twenties, 5-10 kg too much. Only time I
bailed. Was not interested in doing a BBBJ, so aborted
session before it started. Tried to hustle me into
letting her keep EUR 10 because I'd "seen her unimpressive
breasts" by then, though I refused of course.
Sent me nasty messages later, including saying she would
report me to that webpage (pasion.com I assume), whatever
that means.
Rating: stay away.
69xxxx464: Some Chinese knocking shop I think. Photos not accurate at
all. Woman in her forties (possibly even 50) who opened the door for me said she was the
only one available at the time, though I later got the impression
that was not true at all. Only had a BBBJ, but it was good enough.
Price: EUR 50 for 30 minutes, EUR 80 for one hour.
Rating: uh, oh. Dunno. Go and see, but have a backup and
be prepared to leave? Based on their pasion.com adds
and place, I got the impression they are not-so-frequently
changing the women working there, and the one I met did
not talk much, if any, Spanish.Thanks for the report. It accurately corroborates exactly what I have said many times about independents- a total lottery because you don't know what they really look like until you turn up. In your case, with a couple of exceptions, the pictures were photoshopped, or the girls were fatter, not as pretty, older etc. The normal situation. For me, girls who work in this way are sadly having to do so because they know if they work in a club, or an erotic massage venue, or villa, or even the street. Punters can "see before they buy" and would run a mile. Hence the misleading enticing, alluring pictures - "get him here. By then his balls are busting and he'll have me / pay me anyway".
As I reported only last weekend. Sex can be very disappointing with someone you picked (in my case Scandalos then Happy Relax) - but I know one thing. If I have to have the odd disappointing experience (as all mongers do) then I would much prefer sex with someone who looks good than someone who doesn't! I'm afraid this is why I gave up escorts in London and why I will never return to using bait and switch independents in Spain or elsewhere. Good to see a completely balanced report on some independents, with actual details, names, contact info (the sort of information expected in many ISG threads).
Interesting report, Werqueq. The final entry, the Chinese, maybe Calle Asturias, a couple of roads back from the seafront? Although a search isn't producing an ad with that number. Normally they'll have a couple of younger girls there, in their 20's. Can't say Chinese girls have ever been my thing. (Thai agency girls in the West End, yes!) Never seems much fun in them. But if that's the flat it's been there several years and is fairly well known. Right. It's near a place I frequent for other things now and then, so will drop by another time and insist on seeing who else is working then, based on what you say. And bail if I get the same "only me" line from an older woman.
The Russian sounds like you've been to see Lina. On the Feria Ground? I don't know which particular one of her girls you saw. She swaps the numbers around. The photos of her girls are genuine, but she tends to use the professional shots are done when they first come over from Ukraine and they and their ages never change.
Right again.
Using the numbers was probably better than using the ad links. Pasion ads are often temporary and expire in a few days. Searching the number, Location-Toda Espana, may often find the same girl with a different ad or in the next town along the coast. But you need to remove the space in the number.Ok. Was going to say I'll do that next time, but it seems some moderator has XXX-ed out part of the phonenumber. Seems unnecessary to me, as the numbers are from the public adds. At least part of the number remains.
Andalus Expat
08-09-20, 05:17
Thanks for the report. It accurately corroborates exactly what I have said many times about independents- a total lottery because you don't know what they really look like until you turn up. In your case, with a couple of exceptions, the pictures were photoshopped, or the girls were fatter, not as pretty, older etc. The normal situation. For me, girls who work in this way are sadly having to do so because they know if they work in a club, or an erotic massage venue, or villa, or even the street. Punters can "see before they buy" and would run a mile. Hence the misleading enticing, alluring pictures - "get him here. By then his balls are busting and he'll have me / pay me anyway".
As I reported only last weekend. Sex can be very disappointing with someone you picked (in my case Scandalos then Happy Relax) - but I know one thing. If I have to have the odd disappointing experience (as all mongers do) then I would much prefer sex with someone who looks good than someone who doesn't! I'm afraid this is why I gave up escorts in London and why I will never return to using bait and switch independents in Spain or elsewhere. Good to see a completely balanced report on some independents, with actual details, names, contact info (the sort of information expected in many ISG threads).Surely, PayForIt, it depends on what the punter's looking for from the encounter? You're obviously a man who's greatly influenced by the packaging. Others of us, not so much. There are girls out there who may not be the best looking but are total knockouts when it comes down to the action. There's a truism in this game. Pretty girl is often selling pretty girl. They don't have to do much more to earn a living. The less good looking ones try harder. That's how they make a living. Personally, what I'm looking for in a puta is what she's selling. Sexual services. I'm not looking for a trophy girlfriend to be seen with. It's disappointment, as much as anything else. , put me off of clubs. The sales patter and promises in the bar leading to lack lustre, mechanical, vanilla once they've got the money in their hand. The comments one sees in reports on here. Refusing oral without. Don't do that. Don't touch this. They're not even proper putas. But the incentives do not favour proper putas. Girls work in clubs because they can make a lot of money quickly and there's little up-front investment. Price of a bus ticket & a night's room rent. You should listen to them talking together. The shift they worked through ten clients in 4 hours and made a thousand. How to get a punter out the room in under 15 minutes. Back to the bar, snag another one. The foreign visitor is always going to get the worst of it, because they don't expect to see you again. No thanks. , mate! You can keep them.
If there's one thing I've learned from reading reports on exploring the other options is the unreal expectations. The guy who's happy in a club to drop 150 on an overpriced beer, a girl drink and half an hour upstairs, trawling bottom end apartments for 30 putas and complaining. What the hell do you expect? You're shopping in the bargain basement and rejects department. Or they're fooled by the advertising. Did you really think you'd be fucking a glamour model for 120 an hour? If so, I've a bridge I could sell you. Puerto Banus. Spain's rather grubby imitation of Cap Antibes. (Yes I know, But this forum does horrible things to dee-apostrophe) The rents there cost a fortune. We own an apartment there and it does. Expect a girl to be charging 50 more to pay it. Much the same can be said for Marbella. If you want to punt on the cheap, try Malaga or one of the towns. I do not expect to pay any less for a girl's time than you pay in a club. Why should I? But I expect and get a much better level of service. Why do I punt? Variety. And they leave afterwards. Apart from the one that didn't.
For those who are interested in moving away from clubs there are two sorts of girl. Those that work in apartment or villa and share their earnings with the house. 50/50 is common. Generally the girls do not pay anything more to work there, apart from maybe food. The house provides the clients, pays for advertising etc. You'll know an apartment like that because you'll usually be admitted by the encargada and you get to choose your girl. The parada. There are good apartments and bad apartments. The good ones attract regular clients and the girls earn money. They get the better girls. It is in the interest of the apartment, the clients are kept happy. And there are lousy apartments. They lie and use false photos. Bait and switch. They can't keep clients and only the rubbish girls will work in them. They don't generally last long. Then they open up, somewhere else and do it all over again. The true independents work for themselves. They pay for the apartment & its expenses and do their own advertising. There are some apartments are a mix of the two. There may be 2 or 3 girls there renting rooms for shorter periods. But if you book an appointment you will see the girl you asked for. You are her client. These apartments can be self policing. The other girls don't want a girl there, using false photos and ripping off clients. It is bad for their business if the apartment gets a poor reputation. The gems are the permanents. They'll have numerous regular clients, be wanting to keep them and get more. Even if you're just down here for a visit, they'll be hoping to make an impression, you'll come back and see them next time. Some girls have clients go back five years, to whom their visit to their girl is part of their holiday. They'll be messaging her a month before they arrive and sending her Christmas cards and flowers for her birthday. They'll get the welcome they deserve.
I f you want to explore this world, some advice. Always be ready to walk at any point up until you've handed over the money. And even after. You're under no obligation to explain why. Just say you're not interested and leave. If you want a particular service, establish she provides it before you pay for the appointment. Don't accept just "si". Ask how much. They all put stuff in adverts that's just padding. Because they all do it. This is Spain and no one expects you to be honest. It is not part of the culture. If you want a lengthy session, but are unsure of the girl, ask for the half hour rate and the hour when calling. Pay for half an hour and agree the time with the girl, but say you might extend. That's the point where your appointment starts. If you're happy with the girl after 15 minutes, ask to extend to an hour or whatever and pay. Agree with the girl what time the appointment will now end. It's better to extend your appointment early because otherwise she'll be structuring your session to end at the half hour point. For the hour or more, there's a lot more she may do for you than in a quickie and you don't risk getting two half hour sessions back-to-back. If you've been recommended the girl, always make that clear at the start of the session. If she's getting you because she pleased another client she's more likely to pull out the stops with you to get the next. The crafty punter says he's been recommended, even when he hasn't. Another good ploy is to tell her you're buying a place down here and are intending to be a regular visitor. 5 minutes research will make your story more believable. You should know where you are living.
Yes, trawling around the independents, you may get disappointments. I've found much less than with club girls. They're in a totally different market with different incentives. They want to get regular clients and keep them. Their clients are looking for good sex, not just pretty girl. If you regard sex as an artform, you're putting yourself in the hands of an expert. Some of these girls can take you places you didn't know existed. Your pleasure is their job. Enjoy.
If there's one thing I've learned from reading reports on exploring the other options is the unreal expectations. The guy who's happy in a club to drop 150 on an overpriced beer, a girl drink and half an hour upstairs, trawling bottom end apartments for 30 putas and complaining. What the hell do you expect? You're shopping in the bargain basement and rejects department. Or they're fooled by the advertising. Did you really think you'd be fucking a glamour model for 120 an hour? If so, I've a bridge I could sell you. Puerto Banus. Spain's rather grubby imitation of Cap Antibes. (Yes I know, But this forum does horrible things to dee-apostrophe) The rents there cost a fortune. We own an apartment there and it does. Expect a girl to be charging 50 more to pay it. Much the same can be said for Marbella. If you want to punt on the cheap, try Malaga or one of the towns. I do not expect to pay any less for a girl's time than you pay in a club. Why should I? But I expect and get a much better level of service. Why do I punt? Variety. And they leave afterwards. Apart from the one that didn't. Yes, trawling around the independents, you may get disappointments. I've found much less than with club girls. They're in a totally different market with different incentives. They want to get regular clients and keep them. Their clients are looking for good sex, not just pretty girl.All of these broad sweeping statements! As if it's not possible to have great sex with really attractive girls at the clubs. Or that it's difficult to do so. Well, I'm here to say that is isn't if you have the money. I know some guys feel this way and have had these consistently bad experiences at the clubs (obviously), but not me.
In fact, it's the whole way a club works that goes in my favor. Rather than dealing with bait and switch or going to some traditional brothel that trots out a line-up of women and you're supposed to just pick (some chemistry is important), I much prefer a club environment where I get to interact with the women. Not try to fuck everything that moves, but take my time and choose. And choose well! I even think of it as kind of informally "interviewing" to make sure I get what I want at the agreed upon price. I must be good at it too because that's just exactly what I tend to get. What I asked for at the price I agreed to pay. Because I take the time to select (versus being selected), and because I know what I want and learned long ago not to be afraid or ashamed to ask for it. The clubs work big time for me! Dirty sex with pretty girls, getting to fuck many, many, many of them in the ass. Club girls all over Spain!
Now, the other mistake is to be lumping all of the clubs together as one as well. I don't do any places where there's all this pressure to buy lady drinks. It's one reason why I don't like mongering in Asia, where this seems to be more of the model. Besides not being attracted to most Asian women LOL! Be that as it may, the clubs I go to are all typically places where you can buy a lady a drink if you want to. If you don't want to, then you don't. And no pressure on the ladies to sell drinks. Everybody is happy about that! It's one of the things I love about the FKKs of Germany and the boates and nightclubs of Rio and Sao Paulo (the ones I go to anyway). None of this pressure to be buying overpriced drinks. But it's the same at the clubs I have been to all over Spain. There has been zero pressure on me to buy drinks, and if anybody is feeling that, then they're putting that on themselves. I don't mind buying a lady drink every now and then (especially when it costs what buying one for me would cost), but I do that when I want to. Again absolutely no pressure whatsoever from anybody in the clubs in Spain where I have been.
The bottom line is that people are just different, and therefore place different value on the same thing (s). Some people don't like the clubs just because they don't like loud music or prefer to wrap up a night sooner rather than later versus carousing around into the wee hours of the morning. I value PSE-style sex with women who I find to be hot, and for me, those types are more likely found in the clubs versus casas or villas or whatever you want to call them. I get to see with my eyes first, so no bait and switch. And I'm not just into the "package" either. I tend to get some pretty good performance out of the pretty tutes I choose. You're right, in that it's not just about the package. It's about what's in the package. And I'm saying my club packages have been good both inside and out! In the end, to each man his own. You be you, and I'll be me. But I say again, there ought to be room enough here for everybody to share their experiences and likes and dislikes within the rules. Clubs, villas, or wherever.
All of these broad sweeping statements! As if it's not possible to have great sex with really attractive girls at the clubs. Or that it's difficult to do so. Well, I'm here to say that is isn't if you have the money. I know some guys feel this way and have had these consistently bad experiences at the clubs (obviously), but not me.
In fact, it's the whole way a club works that goes in my favor. Rather than dealing with bait and switch or going to some traditional brothel that trots out a line-up of women and you're supposed to just pick (some chemistry is important), I much prefer a club environment where I get to interact with the women. Not try to fuck everything that moves, but take my time and choose. And choose well! I even think of it as kind of informally "interviewing" to make sure I get what I want at the agreed upon price. I must be good at it too because that's just exactly what I tend to get. What I asked for at the price I agreed to pay. Because I take the time to select (versus being selected), and because I know what I want and learned long ago not to be afraid or ashamed to ask for it. The clubs work big time for me! Dirty sex with pretty girls, getting to fuck many, many, many of them in the ass. Club girls all over Spain!
The bottom line is that people are just different, and therefore place different value on the same thing (s). Some people don't like the clubs just because they don't like loud music or prefer to wrap up a night sooner rather than later versus carousing around into the wee hours of the morning. I value PSE-style sex with women who I find to be hot, and for me, those types are more likely found in the clubs versus casas or villas or whatever you want to call them. I get to see with my eyes first, so no bait and switch. And I'm not just into the "package" either. I tend to get some pretty good performance out of the pretty tutes I choose. You're right, in that it's not just about the package. It's about what's in the package. And I'm saying my club packages have been good both inside and out! In the end, to each man his own. You be you, and I'll be me. But I say again, there ought to be room enough here for everybody to share their experiences and likes and dislikes within the rules. Clubs, villas, or wherever.+1 I think you have written an excellent summary of my own experiences too. We all know that the most stunning girls can choose not to give the best service. But an experienced monger usually (not always) gets to spot it. Take the famed Melissa from Scandalos. Still the best looking girl I've sessioned with all over the world. Not done Brazil but would love to (maybe not right now!) - a true 10/10 model, lovely girl, more than the whole package, and a truly sensational service provider. I could wax lyrical about several who also fit that bill of being stunning and great providers.
I think you summed it up well. Everyone has different tastes. I actually agree with Andalus Expat that he is looking for something very different to me (and obviously you). For me, what a girl looks like is VERY important. I am not willing to spend cash (sometimes plenty of it) to get to a room with someone who might give the best BBBJ but just doesn't look so good. It is about the whole experience. Getting to the club, getting dressed up a little, the anticipation, and then as you say, the entire selection process. It's great. I like interviewing the girls to see if they provide what I like in the room. After a time you become known in the clubs. The staff in Scandalos, E92, Fontana, Cleofas all know me. I am greeted by them. Sure they are happy a regular paying punter has returned to spend more cash. That's fine. It is normal in any other service industry (e. G. A restaurant owner). And when you can walk into a club and go politely kiss 10+ girls on the cheek who all know you and equally greet you, those who are new or don't know you quickly see that you are a regular, and they know you are not going to be a tourist from whom they extract a quick buck and get you out of the room in 15 minutes.
On the whole I return to the clubs more than other options for the above reasons, and not to risk bait an switch, and because like you, I get excellent service from a lot of very pretty girls.
If I need a release without all that venture, I head to Bangkok Thai Massage in San Pedro and take a massage from Noi. Truly the most skilful slow teasing HJ you'll ever get anywhere. Is she pretty? No. Would I select her in a club? No. Does she provide a great massage and HJ? Yes. I could give plenty of other examples. It's not all about clubs. But the notion that anyone going to clubs is likely to get ripped off, and trapped into a 15 minute session with a optifuk which is awful, is, as you correctly described it. A sweeping statement.
I posted last week that I didn't have a great night at Scandalos with the very pretty Columbian I selected. It was rare. She certainly was not terrible. But I left after 45 minutes because she wasn't giving me the service I'm used to at clubs. Which is of a very high standard indeed. But hey, to each their own and it is obviously a good thing that we don't all like the same thing. Talking of which. I totally agree with you on the FKK experience. For me. The best there is. For others, clearly not.
And when you can walk into a club and go politely kiss 10+ girls on the cheek who all know you and equally greet you, those who are new or don't know you quickly see that you are a regular, and they know you are not going to be a tourist from whom they extract a quick buck and get you out of the room in 15 minutes. It's not all about clubs. But the notion that anyone going to clubs is likely to get ripped off, and trapped into a 15 minute session with an optifuk which is awful, is, as you correctly described it. A sweeping statement.Indeed, and in fact that has never happened to me at the top mongering clubs around the globe. Not even once. But in the interest of full disclosure, I have seen it happen to others. Particularly to Asian clients patronizing Palace and Samya is where I have witnessed such a thing. I questioned a couple of Romanian tutes at Samya about what I observed them doing (in a non-threatening way), and they openly admitted that they targeted Asians for the quick money and laughed about it. While we were talking, a group of Asians walked in. One of those tutes was right on them and hooked a taker straight away! Like in a matter of second! She looked back at me with a grin and winked as she led her latest victim to the slaughter. All that said, it's never happened to me, and it doesn't have to happen to you either if you play the game right. It's easy! Start by selecting and not being selected. In order to select well, know what you want and what you're willing to pay for it, and don't be hesitant to ask. And don't always go for the first thing that moves just because it looks good! Take your time and find who and what you want. Those tutes aren't going anywhere! And if they do, they'll be back. And if they don't come back, then there's always more who will take their place!
Indeed, and in fact that has never happened to me at the top mongering clubs around the globe. Not even once. But in the interest of full disclosure, I have seen it happen to others. Particularly to Asian clients patronizing Palace and Samya is where I have witnessed such a thing. I questioned a couple of Romanian tutes at Samya about what I observed them doing (in a non-threatening way), and they openly admitted that they targeted Asians for the quick money and laughed about it. While we were talking, a group of Asians walked in. One of those tutes was right on them and hooked a taker straight away! Like in a matter of second! She looked back at me with a grin and winked as she led her latest victim to the slaughter.Oh I totally agree it happens. Don't know if you recall Kathryn the Great at Oase 2017 - auburn hair. Amazonian, stunning woman. Had vaginal muscles like I've never seen. We had a bet on her being able to get x number of clients into one hour! I lost. When we got to the room for the first time I wanted to know how she could guarantee success so quickly. She had this amazing routine. Reverse cowgirl where she insists you back up against the headboard first. This is to prevent you moving backwards to get your dick out before it cums. Then she straddles and inserts. Those hammer like vaginal muscles start and I swear it is like a clamp on your dick. Truly amazing. Had I not vocally insisted we stop, I'the have cum inside 5 minutes easily. Fabulous skills. We went on to have 2 hours in the room (not for the last time) playing a game of getting me closer and letting me go!
So there are girls in clubs who target the quick buck. I don't doubt that for a second. But if you know the game, select well as you say, and take care over the process, most times it produces a good result with a woman you have visually selected as your type. So much better than bait and switch. But I don't think any of us will be hitting FKKs in 2020 - so Spain is an excellent fall back with currently enough options.
Oh I totally agree it happens. Don't know if you recall Kathryn the Great at Oase 2017 - auburn hair. Amazonian, stunning woman. Had vaginal muscles like I've never seen. We had a bet on her being able to get x number of clients into one hour! I lost. When we got to the room for the first time I wanted to know how she could guarantee success so quickly. She had this amazing routine. Reverse cowgirl where she insists you back up against the headboard first. This is to prevent you moving backwards to get your dick out before it cums. Then she straddles and inserts. Those hammer like vaginal muscles start and I swear it is like a clamp on your dick. Truly amazing. Had I not vocally insisted we stop, I'the have cum inside 5 minutes easily. Fabulous skills. We went on to have 2 hours in the room (not for the last time) playing a game of getting me closer and letting me go!
So there are girls in clubs who target the quick buck. I don't doubt that for a second. But if you know the game, select well as you say, and take care over the process, most times it produces a good result with a woman you have visually selected as your type. So much better than bait and switch. But I don't think any of us will be hitting FKKs in 2020 - so Spain is an excellent fall back with currently enough options.After I posted my previous message, I did recall seeing an Asian customer get "the treatment" at Oase too. No idea who the girl was, but he did appear to be rather unsatisfied with the whole experience afterwards. And unfortunately for me, not only will I not be hitting any FKKs in 2020, but I won't be getting to Spain either. Us Yanks can go to Mexico and Brazil right now. Hmm? No thanks!
Sorry for the cross ref but until it gains enough traction of its own. New report in the Clubs only thread. What a night!
TeddyBears
08-14-20, 23:10
The reason I waited to attend Estark92 until yesterday was because I had seen Thae at my hotel for a few days. She's a very sympathetic girl and don't have any real taboos but she wanted extra for the ass! She looks exactly as in the pictures. The number at the site goes to her boss who according to her takes 70% of what she earns! Had to ask her that several times if that really was correct, apparently! On that number her rates is 60 for half an hour, 120 for 1 hour + taxi cost. On her private number you pay 100 for one hour + taxi feel free to PM me for her number. She likes chocolate! She wants Daim, the Swedish brand!
https://www.slumi.com/escorts/fuengirola/colombianita-sabrosona-con-una-mini-cintura-id-7acgt
Andalus Expat
08-15-20, 14:05
The reason I waited to attend Estark92 until yesterday was because I had seen Thae at my hotel for a few days. She's a very sympathetic girl and don't have any real taboos but she wanted extra for the ass! She looks exactly as in the pictures. The number at the site goes to her boss who according to her takes 70% of what she earns! Had to ask her that several times if that really was correct, apparently! On that number her rates is 60 for half an hour, 120 for 1 hour + taxi cost. On her private number you pay 100 for one hour + taxi feel free to PM me for her number. She likes chocolate! She wants Daim, the Swedish brand!
https://www.slumi.com/escorts/fuengirola/colombianita-sabrosona-con-una-mini-cintura-id-7acgtIt's unusual to find a girl doesn't want extra money for anal unless the advert specifically says; included in the charge for services. It's an "extra service" Perfectly normal in Spain or anywhere in the world. So exclamation mark unwarranted! The "site" is an advertising site. They don't take anything off of her. Far as I know, she's working at the Camino de Coin apartment, again. If she's on a split. It'll be 50/50 Or she could be renting a room per day. Nowhere takes 70% of the girls' earnings. 60/120 sounds like the incall rate. It was, last year. If she's offering outcalls for 100, calling her private number, my guess is she's on the 50/50 split and bilking the "house". 150 for an outcall has been pretty standard for some time. That said, the lack of work has got some of the girls cutting prices. Had one last week who was happy to come round for an hour for 80€. No taxi. She's only a couple hundred metres down the road. Didn't take her up on it but it was obvious from the conversation, she hadn't earned a cent in a couple of days and was calling old clients in desperation. Of course, there's some people doing the opposite. Girl I know works for a massage place. They've just bumped the prices up by 10€, she told me. Predictably, she hadn't seen a client all day. She stayed with us for dinner. So at least she got fed.
*If you have Thai's private number, PM me with it. I might have some work for her and I don't want to talk to the encargada. I just tried the ad number and that's not answering.
Don't fall for it.
Utter con, absolute faeces.
Tried two recently in the last week. Both seriously time wasting.
Stick to the clubs!
Andalus Expat
08-21-20, 16:08
Don't fall for it.
Utter con, absolute faeces.
Tried two recently in the last week. Both seriously time wasting.
Stick to the clubs!What clubs are they?
Spain Seeks to Shut Brothels to Curb Coronavirus Contagion.
By Reuters.
Aug. 21,2020, 8:57 am ET.
Madrid— Spanish Equality Minister Irene Montero has asked regions to order the closure of brothels in a bid to prevent new coronavirus outbreaks, a week after the government shut most nightlife establishments and imposed various other restrictions.
The ministry has sent a letter asking "regions to specifically act on places where prostitution is exercised, like brothels", she told radio station RNE on Friday.
Brothels operate in a legal grey area in Spain, which makes regulating their activities tricky, a ministry spokesman said.
Prostitution is tolerated in Spain while sexual exploitation and pimping are illegal. Many brothels operate in the country as hotels or other lodging establishments.
Montero said the same rules that apply to nightclubs should be imposed on brothels, while her ministry was working on regulation to protect people from sexual exploitation.
She did not specify whether she was considering an outright ban on prostitution, as some people advocate, or to regulate the activity and give legal protection to sex workers.
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Spain Seeks to Shut Brothels to Curb Coronavirus Contagion.
All too much of a generalisation I am afraid. I have little doubt that brothels in Barcelona, and even Madrid, may close. I don't think this applies with the same force on the CDS. Whilst there are restrictions / rules / limitations in place on the CDS, every single club is still open for business, including the biggest. Scandalos, E92, Fontana, Glass Palace (both Malaga and Estepona) and many of the smaller clubs are still doing good business. Aladdin (Estepona), Hole 19 (changed its name to Temor), Cleofas (Campamento), Sala Divas. All open. I appreciate this is clubs and not brothels. But I think Berrys66 meant the shutting more widely. It may yet come to it, but currently all of the clubs are still open for business.
Brothels, often dressed as massage or tantra places, are all still open. Happy Relax in Banus, the Chinese massage places in Banus and Marbella, Zen Banus, Malaga Tantra Centre. All open. No restrictions.
There are always going to be people in every country who would love to seize an opportunity to kill prostitution.
Hi guys,
Clubs in Costa del Sol are still open but with new hours to comply with the new health restrictions.
Estark92 is open from 5 pm To 1 am. Scandalo closes later but does not accept new clients after midnight.
Hi guys,
Clubs in Costa del Sol are still open but with new hours to comply with the new health restrictions.
Estark92 is open from 5 pm To 1 am. Scandalo closes later but does not accept new clients after midnight.I'm not sure if it's true, but in a Spanish forum a person claimed that Scandalo is closed. I don't know the credibility of the person that wrote that and it seems a bit weird to me, but that's what I read. On their website they claim to be open 12 to 00 and the hotel is open 24 hours.
Hi guys,
Clubs in Costa del Sol are still open but with new hours to comply with the new health restrictions.
Estark92 is open from 5 pm To 1 am. Scandalo closes later but does not accept new clients after midnight.Thanks for the update. As this relates only to clubs please note there is now a dedicated Costa del Sol Club Reports Only thread. Just scroll down the Spain page in the forum. Thanks.
What clubs are they?Erm? I think you know the ones? The same ones you criticise anyone on here from frequenting, with your 'Fan Boyz' sanctimonious attitude.
After all you've reported and preached the last few months I thought I'the give your site a fair chance. Never again, utter garbage.
Luckily I never lost a lot of money € 20 one day on wasted taxi fees. But time and getting pissed about is very measurable to someone who appreciates and despises such things.
I'm no novice, I've had a place on the CDS the last 30 years, I've been mongering 10 of them and I visit often. I know my way around the scene after finding this forum.
But sure as hell I'the never use your site again. Very disappointed indeed.
Andalus Expat
08-30-20, 19:40
Erm? I think you know the ones? The same ones you criticise anyone on here from frequenting, with your 'Fan Boyz' sanctimonious attitude.
After all you've reported and preached the last few months I thought I'the give your site a fair chance. Never again, utter garbage.
Luckily I never lost a lot of money 20 one day on wasted taxi fees. But time and getting pissed about is very measurable to someone who appreciates and despises such things.
I'm no novice, I've had a place on the CDS the last 30 years, I've been mongering 10 of them and I visit often. I know my way around the scene after finding this forum.
But sure as hell I'the never use your site again. Very disappointed indeed.Since you haven't brought your dissatisfaction with the girl to my attention, either through the site or through the PM system here, I can only presume it's as much in your imagination as your compendious knowledge of the local puta scene. As for my views on puti clubs, I think I share the opinion of the majority of foreign residents & visitors here along with most of the Spanish. An almost total absence of interest in what goes on in them. As I've said before, they occupy a trivial niche in what is a very much greater field of interest. In the case of Estark & Scandalos combined barely one percent of the girls working on the coast, if that.
The girl? It was two, and I have brought it to your attention. On here.
But more importantly others.
I don't have full membership on here so I can't PM, but even if I did I wouldn't waste any more time on this, bad experiences are best moved on from.
End of subject.
As for my views on puti clubs, I think I share the opinion of the majority of foreign residents & visitors here along with most of the Spanish. An almost total absence of interest in what goes on in them. As I've said before, they occupy a trivial niche in what is a very much greater field of interest. In the case of Estark & Scandalos combined barely one percent of the girls working on the coast, if that.Firstly I don't know how you can possibly know the total number of working girls on the entire coast to be able to assess what 1% is. Secondly, the vast majority of visitors to the main Costa Del Sol thread (this one. Not the Clubs only one I created) are not resident in Spain. Just go back 10 pages. How many people other than you say they live on the CDS? One I think. Finally, your views on clubs was not requested, but with respect is of little consequence. The truth is that it is possible to count on one hand during the last 10 pages of this main thread how many actual reports of girls there are from outside of the clubs. And one of them is mine! This is no doubt why the clubs only thread is now getting decent reports / comments / traction whereas the actual reports of mongering in this main thread has all but died. I am sad about that. But it seems (if your maths are correct) that there are plenty of comments about 1% of the trade on the CDS (in the Clubs only thread), but hardly any at all about what you assess is 99% of the trade outside the clubs. Now that is very odd if your maths are anywhere near correct. Why would 1% get far more interest than 99%?
Andalus Expat
09-02-20, 10:56
The girl? It was two, and I have brought it to your attention. On here.
But more importantly others.
I don't have full membership on here so I can't PM, but even if I did I wouldn't waste any more time on this, bad experiences are best moved on from.
End of subject.As you won't put a name to either girl you don't give your opinions much credibility, do you? It's in all our interests to know if one disappoints & why.
The girl? It was two, and I have brought it to your attention. On here.
But more importantly others.
I don't have full membership on here so I can't PM, but even if I did I wouldn't waste any more time on this, bad experiences are best moved on from.
End of subject.Which women and what was bad? Statements like that from somebody who looks like he just joined to post something bad about a certain site makes you look like a troll / fake account. Provide some details that can make your report useful.
Andalus Expat
09-12-20, 12:00
Dominicana mulata. Search Pasion for name + Fuengirola. Bit of a surprise. Her photos don't really do her justice. The body is as shown. Medium naturals. Slim but nicely rounded rear. But in the flesh she's prettier & looks younger than her claimed 30. Good service for 100/ hour Her arse is available for another 50. Recommended.
Andalus Expat
09-12-20, 16:29
Firstly I don't know how you can possibly know the total number of working girls on the entire coast to be able to assess what 1% is. Secondly, the vast majority of visitors to the main Costa Del Sol thread (this one. Not the Clubs only one I created) are not resident in Spain. Just go back 10 pages. How many people other than you say they live on the CDS? One I think. Finally, your views on clubs was not requested, but with respect is of little consequence. The truth is that it is possible to count on one hand during the last 10 pages of this main thread how many actual reports of girls there are from outside of the clubs. And one of them is mine! This is no doubt why the clubs only thread is now getting decent reports / comments / traction whereas the actual reports of mongering in this main thread has all but died. I am sad about that. But it seems (if your maths are correct) that there are plenty of comments about 1% of the trade on the CDS (in the Clubs only thread), but hardly any at all about what you assess is 99% of the trade outside the clubs. Now that is very odd if your maths are anywhere near correct. Why would 1% get far more interest than 99%?The figure for the amount of girls working this coast has been widely quoted by the papers at around 5000 for previous years. Remember turnover. With Estark & Scandalos fielding around 80 average between them, between 1-2%. But since you don't seem to have explored much past big puticlubs, I'd say you haven't much of a handle on Spanish culture. Discretion is a very important thing for Spanish guys. In Spain, your business will soon be everybody else's business if you lack it. You will rarely see another client if you visit an apartment or villa. The ideal apartment for a girl is in a big block with plenty of footfall through the main entrance covers clients' arrival and departure. Villas are often way out of town. The last thing the majority of Spanish blokes want is to be spotted in a puticlub and his wife, girlfriend, family or work colleagues finding out his pass-time. The Spanish clientele of clubs tend to be: Strangers in town, don't know their way around. Lads out on a jolly. Miguel-no-mates who can't hack chatting up xicas in bars and dance clubs and getting laid in the normal way. For the illusion. Estark and Scandalos are a big thing for you They aren't for the Spanish.
I remember this part of the forum being positive, well informed and helpful on my visits throughout the years, now it's mostly fighting, some very new profiles with big attitudes and claims. And if I want to get info about a club I need to search two separate sub-forums. It is a shame, especially since I think the clubs around Malaga / Marbella is worldclass.
But since you don't seem to have explored much past big puticlubs, I'd say you haven't much of a handle on Spanish culture. For the illusion. Estark and Scandalos are a big thing for you They aren't for the Spanish.You must have missed my many posts in the past. I have regularly reported on many so-called erotic massage venues. In Malaga (Malaga Centre and others) Guadalmina, Fuengirola (Zen and others) Puerto Banus (Happy relax, Zen and others) Marbella. Only recently I posted re Relax in Banus. These are of course not puticlubs. Additionally I've mentioned experiences in Villas. Villa Walla, Casa Masa etc. So it is not correct that I have "not explored past big puticlubs". I do understand, and respect the need for discretion. But that does not only apply to the Spanish.
As for the "Illusion" I cannot say I understand what you meant? I don't see clubs as illusions at all. They are what they are. Venues at which guys can go, get a few beers, enjoy inspecting the girls and choose. Nothing illusionary in that for me. I know why they are there.
The figure for the amount of girls working this coast has been widely quoted by the papers at around 5000 for previous years. Remember turnover. With Estark & Scandalos fielding around 80 average between them, between 1-2%. But since you don't seem to have explored much past big puticlubs, I'd say you haven't much of a handle on Spanish culture. Discretion is a very important thing for Spanish guys. In Spain, your business will soon be everybody else's business if you lack it. You will rarely see another client if you visit an apartment or villa. The ideal apartment for a girl is in a big block with plenty of footfall through the main entrance covers clients' arrival and departure. Villas are often way out of town. The last thing the majority of Spanish blokes want is to be spotted in a puticlub and his wife, girlfriend, family or work colleagues finding out his pass-time. The Spanish clientele of clubs tend to be: Strangers in town, don't know their way around. Lads out on a jolly. Miguel-no-mates who can't hack chatting up xicas in bars and dance clubs and getting laid in the normal way. For the illusion. Estark and Scandalos are a big thing for you They aren't for the Spanish.More importantly, the Spaniards can't afford the clubs. Those who can afford it don't want to be out late of various reasons, having to find a excuse to the wife and then coming home smelling like a wh*rehouse. I bet that many prefer to do their fucking earlier in the day right after work, simple and cheap. Of course the clubs are much better for us who can go out late and afford it.
I remember this part of the forum being positive, well informed and helpful on my visits throughout the years, now it's mostly fighting, some very new profiles with big attitudes and claims. And if I want to get info about a club I need to search two separate sub-forums. It is a shame, especially since I think the clubs around Malaga / Marbella is worldclass.An entirely fair point. But if you want to search say Germany there are different threads for clubs and others for other activities.
You shouldn't need to get information from two forums. One is for clubs only and the other (supposedly) for non-club related activities. I have messaged Admin to see if the club reports only thread could be sat alongside CDS in the main forum but ADMIN never replies to any messages.
I went to Estark92 on Sunday and yesterday. The club is open from 5 pm to 1 am, at 1 am the club closes the doors but lets the customers inside drink and play with the girls until 2 am. Only the casino side is open.
There are about 25 girls, Latinas and Romanians. Every time I have been there are a maximum of 20 clients, no more.
The situation is certaintly difficult for the girls. The positive side for us customers is the girls are very available. For exemple, I took a Bulgarian who comes from Vive in Madrid, without the closing of the clubs in Madrid, she would not have come to work at Estark92.
The prices have not changed in Estark92 for girls (80 euros for 30 min, 100 for 40 min 150 for 60 min) and for drinks (9 euros a beer, 12 a gin tonic).
I went to Scandalo, 5 girls are waiting on the terrace, that's all. I did not stay.
Brothels like Villa Relax in Torremolinos or Velarquez 24 in Malaga are open during day time but close at midnight.
TeddyBears
10-13-20, 16:15
Hello gents!
I have been in Malaga / Fuengirola the last week or so, I must say it has been very pleasant indeed! Perfect weather and a few good surprises when we talk about girls!
I started to contact Melody an independent girl from Puerto Rico, didn't know what to expect since her pictures seems to be a little to nice to be real. And they are not!! BUT the girl is beautiful and almost looks like the photos, would guess that she is not higher than 1. 60, big tits that was soft but stayed on the right place, difficult to know if they were real or not. Long black hair with a beautiful face, she wears bracelet! Claims to be 22 years old.
She'll will do BBBJ and kisses you with tongue if there is chemistry between you. The odd thing here is that she sent me to another address first, before giving me the right address! Ok if it were 100 meter apart but no it was like a kilometer apart! A bit annoying! Her address is on Plaza Rio Teitar. Damage €100 for 1 hour, Recommended.
http://www.destacamos.com/99641-chicas-escorts-m%C3%A1laga-637165667-contactos/details.html
Next girl I wanted to see was Sakura a Spanish / Japanese girl that apparently also advertises with false photos, but I understand why since she has a couple of tattoos that would be easy to recognize. Anyway the girl claims to only be 20 years old, if that's true then it would be my first millennial girl!! LOL The girl has a super nice body and with a beautiful face to match it! Natural perky tits, not big but certainly not small either just perfect.
This was absolutely the highlight of my vacation and I've seen her more than once. The girl is super friendly, and talks good english which is a big plus for me. She did both french kiss and sucked without condom, but I guess it comes down to hygiene and chemistry as well. €120 for an hour in a very nice apartment a few minutes away from Plaza la Merced, Highly recommended.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/sakura-japonesa-543131017.htm
I was about to see Alina on www.secretgarden.sexy but surprise surprise she wasn't at that address, there was an very small brown haired anorectic girl instead of this blond MILF I was supposed to see!! I left the place of course. So had to organize something fairly quickly since I had swallowed a Kamagra before going there. Ended up with seeing Thae a mulatt girl I have seen before in Los Boliches, she is a very bubbly girl that really are very nice to be with. But I recommend you to take her on a outcall since her room is very small and not the nicest to be fair. She doesn't have many restrictions, very nice time apart from the location! Her photos are accurate, she's in her mid 20's, €100 for an hour. Recommended.
http://www.destacamos.com/98195-chicas-escorts-m%C3%A1laga-632434817-contactos/details.html
I have also seen Noelia from www.secretgarden.sexy in her apartment in los Boliches, she is a very nice MILF probably in her mid 30's with a very nice body indeed! Enhanced tits, a firm ass and a beautiful face what else do you need really! Her cock sucking skill is second to none really! (Just like at Artemis FKK) those who knows they know! She doesn't speak any english that's the only negative I could say about her, super friendly attitude that I will for sure try to repeat again. €80 for an hour. Highly recommended!
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/dispuesta-a-todo-100-cachonda-542832800.htm
TeddyBears.
Thanks for your recent report. Should be in Fuengirola now sampling some delights alas because of Covid decided not to come.
I'm hoping to come in March but everything is so uncertain.
Bogman.
Andalus Expat
10-25-20, 21:21
Well that's that, then. El Pais is reporting the government, here, is imposing a 23:00 - 06:00 curfew nationally with dispensation for provinces to vary the hours backwards or forwards by an hour. Initially for 15 days from today, by decree but it intends to go to Congress for legislation for an extension until May 9 next year. So if they get it, effectively, that puts a limit on night-time activities to 10 o'clock to allow revellers to get home without getting nicked. So I reckon you can kiss goodbye to clubs, villas & anything else depends on night-time trade. Hardly any of it will have been running profitably since March and it's doubtful anyone's got sufficient left in the kitty to bankroll another 7 months. Malaga may try for the extra hour but the difference is trivial. The upside for the canny is the prospect of being able to negotiate overnighters with favourite indy xicas for peanuts. I foresee a winter of duos and even trios. Yum yum.
The Good The Mad And The Ugly.
Fortunately I've continued investigating what won't be verboten. Mia Prada is available at an apartment close to Fuengirola's feria ground run by Carmen (Espanola), who herself specialises in massage. Slightly chubbly Venezolana in her thirties with a happy disposition and offering the complete range of services. Speaks a little english. There's another couple of girls there too. One I saw was a young, slim pretty thing. Brasilera, I think I was told. Might repay further exploration.
Other side of the Feria, in Calle Matias Lara Larita, is a Central American outpost. No problem finding that. It's almost opposite the villa I was renting a couple of years back. Girl in charge is Vanesa from Mexico hourglass figure in her early twenties. Described by one of the other girls I know as 'toda loca'. Didn't seem so to me. In fact after an hour at her place took her home for the rest of the night. Thoroughly filthy girl. Great fun. In the house when I was there were two other xicas. Dominicana & a Cubana if I remember rightly. Both young, presentable & willing. There's normally supposed to be a fourth. 100 gets you an hour for the basic BBBJ & straight sex. Extras & outcalls available.
Not everything goes as smooth. Spotted photos on Pasion of an Equadora I've known from a while back. Looked forward to renewing the acquaintance. Her personal number she'd given me seemed to have expired & likewise her workname's no doubt different. So contacted the number on the advert & tried to get some sense out of whoever responded. Gave up on that & booked an appointment to investigate in person. Flat round the corner from me in Camino de Coin. Neither or both of the girls I saw were the "Camila" from the ad. And definitely neither were the cherished Bety. WTF they do this shit beats me. Neither of the xicas were anything near the standard of her photos. Just results in what I did. Walked & put the word around to avoid the apartment. (#31 second floor) Maybe they should find another profession. Timeshare selling or politics.
Apart from the above, mainly been enjoying the company of regular playmates. Victoria's been working in Amsterdam but flew down for a week's break & provided some pleasant after dinner & before breakfast entertainment. I have a Dutch number for her if anybody wants it. Noelia (from Teddybear's post) seems to have fallen in love with Andrea (who's currently occupying the spare bedroom). Last week's night with the pair of them was an epic exploration of BDSM games. And Saray went home at lunchtime today, with a smile on her face. I can't solve the CDS's puta unemployment problem single handed. But I'm doing my best.
Well that's that, then. So I reckon you can kiss goodbye to clubs, villas & anything else depends on night-time trade.Nice report on the ladies etc. However, the projected doom ("goodbye to clubs, villas") I think is very mistaken and ignores enterprise. The clubs are already operating as "hotels". So now at E92, Scandalos and Glass Palace Estepona, you book a room for the night. E92 is e75, Glass Palace 60 and don't know at Scandalos as I haven't returned for some time due to the Scandalous prices! Basically, you remain in the bar until it must close (be that 10 pm, 11 pm or whatever is decided locally) - so I can see it being midnight on the CDS. At 5 minutes before closing of the club, you take your chosen lady or ladies to your room where you can party all night. I did exactly that on Saturday just gone. And of course because you are in a "hotel" you can call room service for more drinks if you run dry. So the ladies are still going to work, the drinks will still flow and the fun will continue. All fully within the law of course.
I agree with you that some smaller bars will need to re-think but for the majority, closing at 12 won't be a killer if they open their rooms to staying guests as above. I think hardest hit however will be Scandalos were the customers tend not to get to that club until after 1 pm.
Andalus Expat
10-26-20, 10:22
Nice report on the ladies etc. However, the projected doom ("goodbye to clubs, villas") I think is very mistaken and ignores enterprise. The clubs are already operating as "hotels". So now at E92, Scandalos and Glass Palace Estepona, you book a room for the night. E92 is e75, Glass Palace 60 and don't know at Scandalos as I haven't returned for some time due to the Scandalous prices! Basically, you remain in the bar until it must close (be that 10 pm, 11 pm or whatever is decided locally) - so I can see it being midnight on the CDS. At 5 minutes before closing of the club, you take your chosen lady or ladies to your room where you can party all night. I did exactly that on Saturday just gone. And of course because you are in a "hotel" you can call room service for more drinks if you run dry. So the ladies are still going to work, the drinks will still flow and the fun will continue. All fully within the law of course.
I agree with you that some smaller bars will need to re-think but for the majority, closing at 12 won't be a killer if they open their rooms to staying guests as above. I think hardest hit however will be Scandalos were the customers tend not to get to that club until after 1 pm.I'm sorry, PayForIt, that just sounds like a great deal of wishful thinking. Where's the money going to come from? The CDS didn't have a tourist season this summer. And tourism's not only the region's biggest industry. It's virtually it's only industry. We're certainly going to see few tourists over the next 6 months. Why the hell would anyone bother coming here? I walked round Fuengirola Saturday evening last week. The London Pub was shut. POGS was shut. Even the big bar on the corner in Fish Alley was shut. There's nothing to do here if you came, apart from sit in your hotel room. And if there's no money coming into the economy, there's no money going round the economy. The girls I know are making less than half of what they were making last year. The unlucky ones almost nothing. They're deserting the club circuit in droves. They're not worth working in. Those that are still open.
As for clubs turning themselves into hotels, what did you think they were? They've certainly never been clubs in any meaningful sense the word. Few provide any entertainment apart from a pay-to-play juke box sound system. They're hotels rent rooms to girls with an expensive bar. Think through your proposition. A girl pays the club for a room in order to work there. Then the client pays for another room in order to spend the night with her. Yes, I can see how the club might like that. But do you think we're all stupid? The only person here with money is the client. So the client's paying for two rooms plus the time with the girl. At what per hour? Any girl with sense will rent herself an apartment room (going rate's 35€/ day) get a few bottles in & party.
Villas. I was talking with the encargada of one of the well known ones. Did I know a couple of girls would work there? She's short staffed. We both know what the problem is. The people own the place insist on continuing with the current business model. Half hour increments with a girl 100€, the girl on a 50/50 split. She can't get girls because girls don't want to sit in a villa all night for no money. There aren't the clients want to pay that.
I read your previous post recounting your vast experience of punting on the CDS. You certainly have worked your way through the Saga Holidays guide to sexual services. Did you never go off piste? The problem here, now, is it's impossible to run any sort of legitimate business in this field and make money. Massage joints. Possibly one you've visited. Last year it had 4 girls working 2 shifts. Currently they're down to one girl a shift. I know one of the girls, very well. She's on a contract of employment, she gets the 40 out of a 40/60 split. She made the sum total of 130€ for the entirety of last week. That gave her boss 195€ out of which he's got to make her social security payment. A far as she's concerned, her naturalisation papers came through a few weeks ago so she's waiting for him to go bust so she can collect unemployment pay & maybe some redundancy money. Your nursery slopes are fast disappearing and the vast majority of the punters here have more expertise on the black runs.
I'm sorry, PayForIt, that just sounds like a great deal of wishful thinking. Where's the money going to come from? There's nothing to do here if you came, apart from sit in your hotel room. The girls I know are making less than half of what they were making last year. The unlucky ones almost nothing. They're deserting the club circuit in droves. So the client's paying for two rooms plus the time with the girl.
Did you never go off piste? Your nursery slopes are fast disappearing and the vast majority of the punters here have more expertise on the black runs.My friend we will have to agree to disagree. It's not wishful thinking it comes from direct face to face conversations with club owners. They ain't closing! These folks (certainly those owning the bigger clubs) have been raking in cash for years. They can withstand this for a couple of years if needs be! And it doesn't matter if you think the enterprise works or not. Conversion into hotels is working. Guys are booking rooms so they can still monger! They don't actually pay for two rooms. Sure. The first client of the day is paying the girls room. But that's it. If I'm her second customer of the day I'm only paying for my room and the first guy's cash to her was for her time LESS the room fee. But he doesn't get stung twice. You know that!
Girls are not deserting clubs at all let alone in droves. I have been to E92 no less than 8 times in 2020. The same girls were largely there last Saturday. And moreover new girls are arriving regularly. Club manager pointed three new girls from Vive out to me. How does that equate to leaving in droves? It is a figment of your imagination whereas I'm on the ground. Having visited only TWO DAYS AGO. And there is no leaving in droves at all. I think that is rather your wishful thinking not mine!
I cannot comment on villas as I no longer go to them.
Massage places. Yes I've done them all I think! Your experience again is absolutely at odds with the current situation. I went to Happy Relax in Banus on Friday. Near the Shell garage. There were 7 girls paraded in front of me to choose from. Not one. Seven. I don't think I have seen that many options in there before - 5 yes, 7 no.
So I'm happy to say my "nursery slopes" compared to your "black runs" (smacks of you being the expert and me the novice. Odd as I've been mongering including on CDS for over 30 years so hardly novice) are not fast disappearing at all.
But who knows? For sure economics will drive things. If the pandemic worsens, Spain goes back into full lockdown etc. Then there won't be any black, red, blue or nursery runs! I know 11 girls at E92 who have decided they will remain and work through the winter there unless there is a lockdown. The club owner says he will only shut if there is a full lockdown or the law requires him to do so. But for sure it could happen. It isn't on the brink as you would have us believe. Scandalos is even less likely to close given the money it makes and has made for many years.
The oldest profession in the world is always going to survive. How, where, etc is a matter of total guesswork for all of us in these most uncertain of times.
But I'll close with a request. Not least because all mongers should presently be aligning together. Whatever their persuasions, as part of the brotherhood! So. As I am now based on the CDS (at least for the forseeable) and you clearly are too. Let's get a socially distanced beer. You can talk me through going off piste! PM me and let's get together. I have a feeling it would be great fun!
Andalus Expat
10-28-20, 13:32
My friend we will have to agree to disagree. It's not wishful thinking it comes from direct face to face conversations with club owners. They ain't closing! These folks (certainly those owning the bigger clubs) have been raking in cash for years. They can withstand this for a couple of years if needs be! And it doesn't matter if you think the enterprise works or not. Conversion into hotels is working. Guys are booking rooms so they can still monger! They don't actually pay for two rooms. Sure. The first client of the day is paying the girls room. But that's it. If I'm her second customer of the day I'm only paying for my room and the first guy's cash to her was for her time LESS the room fee. But he doesn't get stung twice. You know that!
Girls are not deserting clubs at all let alone in droves. I have been to E92 no less than 8 times in 2020. The same girls were largely there last Saturday. And moreover new girls are arriving regularly. Club manager pointed three new girls from Vive out to me. How does that equate to leaving in droves? It is a figment of your imagination whereas I'm on the ground. Having visited only TWO DAYS AGO. And there is no leaving in droves at all. I think that is rather your wishful thinking not mine!You may well be correct, PayForIt. It's just hard to see how. If Estark's got 14 girls, it's got to provide work for 14 girls. It's lost the main thing it had to offer. The illusion of a nightclub you can drop into in the late hours. What marketing calls the impulse buyer. Up until the curfew cut off point it's competing with all the other service providers. And then it has to find 14 guys want to pay to be locked up in a tacky hotel full of putas until the next morning? Every one of the 7 days of the week. Because you can be sure, a girl not earning is gone. Who would want to do that? To do what? Most Spanish punters are half hour merchants. If they take a girl upstairs in the first place. Like the majority of blokes have posted on here about clubs in the past few years. You may relish flirting in the bar, playing the bandits, carousing with a couple of putas half the night with drinks sent up. And running up a 500€ bill. How many other people can do that? Or want to? Not saying the latter part of that doesn't have merit. But apartment girls offer better, in better surroundings for about half the price. And the locals, who are pretty well the only available clients at the moment, know a great deal more about where to go and what's on offer than you do. Of course the management are telling you they intend to stay open & all's rosy. They'd be telling you that up until they locked the doors & scuttled off into the night.
Puerto Banus isn't indicative of anything. It's an anomaly. Concentration of high worth individuals. But some data points. Our PB apartment finally let for 6 weeks of the season. That's about 20 k down on expectations. Guy I know has a restaurant business in PB would normally have over a quarter million banked at this point in the annual cycle (no, it's not all profit!) he's currently got a 100 k loan debt. That's all money won't be going back into the CDS economy. What pays putas in Estark.
But my original post wasn't supposed to be a dissection of the club business or I would have put it on your club board. I don't have your obsession with clubs. More a report on the latest antics of the Madrid government & the likely consequences. As ever, the leaner your operation the easier it is to change in response to changing circumstances. And you can't get much leaner an operation than one puta working for herself.
Of course we're gong to have to wait & see what actually transpires. The government may not get its extension past 15 days in Congress. Or might not get the full 6 months. And it's not like last March. There isn't the appetite in the country for this shit, this time round. Country could see the streets of the big cities turned into battle grounds. And it depends on how enforceable it is. A lot of the girls were able to keep working 24/7 right through full lockdown. Can't say it's going to make much difference to me apart from restricting car use. I didn't get home last night until 2 AM and I've a useful tame cab driver. Same applies to anyone knows what they're doing here.
You may well be correct, PayForIt. It's just hard to see how. If Estark's got 14 girls, it's got to provide work for 14 girls. It's lost the main thing it had to offer. The illusion of a nightclub you can drop into in the late hours. What marketing calls the impulse buyer. Up until the curfew cut off point it's competing with all the other service providers. And then it has to find 14 guys want to pay to be locked up in a tacky hotel full of putas until the next morning? Every one of the 7 days of the week. Because you can be sure, a girl not earning is gone. Who would want to do that? To do what? Most Spanish punters are half hour merchants. If they take a girl upstairs in the first place. Like the majority of blokes have posted on here about clubs in the past few years. You may relish flirting in the bar, playing the bandits, carousing with a couple of putas half the night with drinks sent up. And running up a 500 bill. How many other people can do that? Or want to? Not saying the latter part of that doesn't have merit. But apartment girls offer better, in better surroundings for about half the price. And the locals, who are pretty well the only available clients at the moment, know a great deal more about where to go and what's on offer than you do. Of course the management are telling you they intend to stay open & all's rosy. They'd be telling you that up until they locked the doors & scuttled off into the night.
Puerto Banus isn't indicative of anything. It's an anomaly. Concentration of high worth individuals. But some data points. Our PB apartment finally let for 6 weeks of the season. That's about 20 k down on expectations. Guy I know has a restaurant business in PB would normally have over a quarter million banked at this point in the annual cycle (no, it's not all profit!) he's currently got a 100 k loan debt. That's all money won't be going back into the CDS economy. What pays putas in Estark.
But my original post wasn't supposed to be a dissection of the club business or I would have put it on your club board. I don't have your obsession with clubs. More a report on the latest antics of the Madrid government & the likely consequences. As ever, the leaner your operation the easier it is to change in response to changing circumstances. And you can't get much leaner an operation than one puta working for herself.
Of course we're gong to have to wait & see what actually transpires. The government may not get its extension past 15 days in Congress. Or might not get the full 6 months. And it's not like last March. There isn't the appetite in the country for this shit, this time round. Country could see the streets of the big cities turned into battle grounds. And it depends on how enforceable it is. A lot of the girls were able to keep working 24/7 right through full lockdown. Can't say it's going to make much difference to me apart from restricting car use. I didn't get home last night until 2 AM and I've a useful tame cab driver. Same applies to anyone knows what they're doing here.Hard to argue with your rationale. I was in E92 last night. Numbers were indeed down. Girls are heading home for Christmas early. But there was no shortage of foreign punters. The LU was the weakest for the past month. A lot of the girls were complaining last night about lack of business. So you could be right. And the illusion of the late night drop in is something I do agree with. But I do also think the owners will be able to ride the storm. We must get together at some point!
Andalus Expat
10-31-20, 16:15
Hard to argue with your rationale. I was in E92 last night. Numbers were indeed down. Girls are heading home for Christmas early. But there was no shortage of foreign punters. The LU was the weakest for the past month. A lot of the girls were complaining last night about lack of business. So you could be right. And the illusion of the late night drop in is something I do agree with. But I do also think the owners will be able to ride the storm. We must get together at some point!Something to think about. Not only in this time of economic gloom but generally. Wherever you choose to do your punting. Puticlub, villa, massage joint, working apartment. You are never the customer. The customer is the girl. The venue provides her the services. The facilities to work. And she pays for them. Even the bar where you buy yourself & her your expensive drinks. She pays with her presence. Or it would have nothing more to offer than any bar in town. Whether anywhere remains open. Unless they choose to close at their own volition. Is at her discretion. The management has no say in the matter whatsoever.
And girls have very short time horizons. If they are not finding work, they are gone to find somewhere they will. They have neither the inclination nor the resources to hang around a loser.
No girl is headed home for an early Christmas in October. September onward should be Fat City. The family holidaymakers have at last departed. July & August are the crap months. And the CDS is open for play. The lead-up to Christmas was always the good times. The time for parties & randy drunks with money to throw around. The locals with their wallets bursting with their summer's loot. Sudamericanas fly home for carnival in February.
No girl is headed home for an early Christmas in October.Not true this year. The world is different. I know 8 Romanian girls all now home in their country and not working. They were not making enough in the job and their standard of living back home is not expensive. So the mix of poor income, cheap living at home, seeing family is better. Many have written off 2020 as a bad dream and decided to start over next year when things improve. This is not only the case on the CDS. The 8 I mention - 5 from E92 one from Cleofas and 2 from Scandalos. But I know of even more who have done this from FKK land in Germany and 5 who did it from the UK.
2020 is very different from all other years. Fears of new lockdowns (true for most of Europe) and no cash. Better to head home. So this year - 2020 - it is just not right to say that "no girl" is headed home for an early Christmas in October (now November). They have not gone to other clubs. They have gone home for Christmas, family, cheap living etc.
Andalus Expat
11-02-20, 11:12
I know 8 Romanian girls all now home in their country and not working. Again, PayForIt, you're looking at things from the very narrow perspective of puticlubs. I'll give you it's entirely likely the RO's are going home. But most of us don't see a RO from one year to another. They've got a dreadful reputation as scam artists & fakes. We all avoid them like the plague. I would think clubs are the only places they can find work. Go look at the registration requirements on AdultWork. Last time I opened an account for a girl, there were extra validation procedures for Romanians & Bulgarians over & above what's required for EU nationals. Any RO's you do come across tend to pass themselves off as something else. Italians or whatever. There's one in Marbella pretending she's French. I speak better French than she does. The girls working on the CDS are mainly south & central Americans, a scattering of Russians, Ukrainians & central Europeans & of course, Spanish. Indeed the RO can get a cheap coach or a lift north (I had an epic trip myself a few years back returning half a dozen for a mate. Try Constanta for an alternative holiday destination. Avoid Timisoara at any cost). The Sudamericanas are looking at expensive flights. If they can get one or even afford one, after such a lean summer. As far as I can see, girls off the club circuit are finding themselves apartments & dropping back into the general puta population. Or moving north to France, Belgium, Holland etc where there's still money going around.
And you do have to factor in the mentality of putas. They really aren't very bright. You're not going to find many economists amongst them. And they have an enormous sense of entitlement. The general expectation is they'll chance upon some magic goldseam of money so they can carry on as if nothing has changed. Very few are yet accepting that the best way to earn is to cut prices & out-compete the other girls. Some are even doing the very Spanish thing & demanding more money.
But most of us don't see a RO from one year to another. They've got a dreadful reputation as scam artists & fakes. We all avoid them like the plague.This may be true outside of clubs but (1) Most of my top 20 mongering experiences of all time (in and out of clubs) have been with fabulous Ro girls so tarnishing them all with the same brush is not fair. (2) Not sure who the "we" is meant to be but I don't think you can claim to speak for the vast majority of mongers. Many of whom do not avoid Ro girls "like the plague" or at all. I've never been scammed by one and don't find them fake. And boy have I roomed with an awful lot of them!
Steve 9696
11-04-20, 02:44
This may be true outside of clubs but (1) Most of my top 20 mongering experiences of all time (in and out of clubs) have been with fabulous Ro girls so tarnishing them all with the same brush is not fair. (2) Not sure who the "we" is meant to be but I don't think you can claim to speak for the vast majority of mongers. Many of whom do not avoid Ro girls "like the plague" or at all. I've never been scammed by one and don't find them fake. And boy have I roomed with an awful lot of them!+1.
I love me a ro-girl! The Romanian girls working (or did work) at Diva in London are awesome. Melty, Pantera, Fortune, Cambria, Kendall, Rivetta, Heidi, Hermione, Sweetie, Flory, Noleta. Not a dud, scammer, bait and switch, or under performer in the bunch. And all fuckin beautiful. I am a devoted Ro-Girl fan! Just got to pick them right (Adultwork is a bad odds lottery no matter the race IMO).
+1.
I love me a ro-girl! The Romanian girls working (or did work) at Diva in London are awesome. Melty, Pantera, Fortune, Cambria, Kendall, Rivetta, Heidi, Hermione, Sweetie, Flory, Noleta. Not a dud, scammer, bait and switch, or under performer in the bunch. And all fuckin beautiful. I am a devoted Ro-Girl fan! Just got to pick them right (Adultwork is a bad odds lottery no matter the race IMO).+2.
Some of my best and most memorable sessions ever have been with Romanian girls! I do not try to avoid Romanians. I try to avoid scammers, but that title knows no national boundaries.
Andalus Expat
11-04-20, 14:15
This may be true outside of clubs but (1) Most of my top 20 mongering experiences of all time (in and out of clubs) have been with fabulous Ro girls so tarnishing them all with the same brush is not fair. (2) Not sure who the "we" is meant to be but I don't think you can claim to speak for the vast majority of mongers. Many of whom do not avoid Ro girls "like the plague" or at all. I've never been scammed by one and don't find them fake. And boy have I roomed with an awful lot of them!The "we", PayForIt, is punters in Spain. Which for obvious reasons will be overwhelmingly the Spanish. You Brits are just a bit of froth on the top of the pond. If you want to get the flavour of Spanish opinions on ROs, go back over a few years of posts on Lumismalaga, the local punters' forum. And the girls are a good source of information. If you were running a casa & started talking about bringing ROs in, you'd be in danger of losing your Latinas. They don't want to share the same space with them.
That said, I share your opinion of Romanians. I've known some good people & the experience goes back to London. They're unfortunate to come from a country, even after all these years suffering the legacy of Ceausescu. Corruption's endemic. You don't prosper in Romania by being honest. And not all Romanians are Romanian. Romanians despise the Roma more than anyone else in Europe. Convincing Romanian documentation is as cheap as chips, by international standards. May even be genuine for a value of genuine. The same people sold you it could be selling you to the security services, on the side. Wouldn't recommend it for crossing a hard frontier. So "Romanians" can be from any of a number of countries around the Balkans & Caucasus.
. (Adultwork is a bad odds lottery no matter the race IMO).If you think AdultWork's hard going, try Pasion or the other Spanish sites. AdultWork does have a registration validation system & the reviews facility provides feedback from clients. And one can always crosscheck with the well known punting forum. Advertisers can stick anything they like on Pasion & the other Spanish sites. (You can report dodgy ads by clicking on "Dununciar" but I've never known them take any action) And you're operating in a country where being economical with the truth is part of the culture. It would be why this board would be of immense value to visitors or foreign residents wanting to explore the whole of the Spanish punting scene. Except it seems pretty well moribund at the moment. With the exception of Mr Sheep who knows his way around, it's 7 or is it 8 guys have actually been in country this year, can find there way to a couple of puticlubs. And a handful of wish-I-was-there's posting from the safety of their home sofas. A vast fund of useful information, it isn't. Hasn't been for a considerable time.
And in breaking news, this morning, politicians are now arguing about putting the whole country back into partial lockdown. Which'll be closing of non-essential businesses & home confinement. Some provinces have already shut bars & restaurants. Whether puticlubs and on the CDS are opening I couldn't tell you. I wonder if even they know.
MagicSheep74
11-15-20, 01:16
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/la-rompecorazones-en-marbella-para-ti-543717526.htm
Ask for the Colombiana from Medellin - 150 Hour.
Face. Stunning 9/10.
Body. Stunning 10/10.
Service. Incredible 10/10.
Location. Marbella centro. Blew my fecking mind.
https://www.slumi.com/escorts/marbella/chica-latina-independiente-con-ganas-de-fiesta-id-tsm38
Malu. Ignore the prices. Its 70/140 HR.
Face 9/10.
Body 8/10.
Service 9/10.
Aloha Pueblo Marbella.
She has a very attractive face, and the service is very high level. Get her early before she is out her mind.
As all is closed by 6 pm, I have taken on a stunning sugar baby from seeking.com - 1500 a months. Meet, suck and fuck as much as I want. She is Canadian with a South American Mother. Stunner 9/10.
Having fun with her.
Stay safe MS.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/la-rompecorazones-en-marbella-para-ti-543717526.htm
Ask for the Colombiana from Medellin - 150 Hour.
Face. Stunning 9/10.
Body. Stunning 10/10.
Service. Incredible 10/10.
Location. Marbella centro. Blew my fecking mind.
As all is closed by 6 pm, I have taken on a stunning sugar baby from seeking.com - 1500 a months. Meet, suck and fuck as much as I want. She is Canadian with a South American Mother. Stunner 9/10.
Nice report. The Columbian looks a stunner with great figure. Do you remember her name? I have a business meeting in Marbella next Monday and may try her out given the looks, body and your rating on service.
Lucky you with the Canadian. If you do the maths what looks like a expensive is not. 50 euros per day for a month! Fabulous. Are you allowed to "loan her out" at that rate? (50 for a day!) I'll take a few days! 😂128514; Enjoy. Sounds like you are doing!
Andalus Expat
11-20-20, 15:25
Hats off to Mr Sheep for his expeditionary activities. Be nice to take advantage of his discoveries. If it was possible to get out of this town. We're currently in municipal lockdown with a 300+ fine deterring one from straying. That said, the delightful Denise drove from Estepona to stay Tuesday night. She's had the foresight to obtain a business travel document. Where there's a will there's a way.
And something rather strange is happening here. The entire puta population of Spain are running around like wet hens. Pasion, the popular puta website, has come under cyberattack and has been non-operational since yesterday. That's after a couple of days of intermittent outages. Since most of them rely on it for a good portion of their income, not a popular event.
MagicSheep74
11-20-20, 19:34
Nice report. The Columbian looks a stunner with great figure. Do you remember her name? I have a business meeting in Marbella next Monday and may try her out given the looks, body and your rating on service.
Lucky you with the Canadian. If you do the maths what looks like a expensive is not. 50 euros per day for a month! Fabulous. Are you allowed to "loan her out" at that rate? (50 for a day!) I'll take a few days!Hey buddy,
Actually the girl in the picture is not her. Just to clarify, it very rare that I randomly pick a girl based in Marbella and am very pleasantly surprised. From what I gather the lady I've seen twice goes by the name ' Sweet ' 21 Colombian, 170 cm, 55 g, dark hair down to her waist, large eyes and banging body. Not to large and curvy.
I believe the apartment has 2 girls, and the pictures of the other one might be the girl in the link. I am very tempted to try a threesome this weekend. They will send short videos of them both, if you request through WhatsApp.
I can also confirm the ' Teddy Bears ' recommendation of Sakura. Half Jap / Spanish girl is a fantastic punt. Very attractive and a genuinely lovely person.
It seemed a prime time to try out this Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy thing. The Canadian / South American chick has moved down here from London for the winter and needs a little financial help. I believe 1500 for one month was excellent value taking into account there is no real limit of seeing her.
My ratings of the Colombiana might so slightly over the top, but I genuinely thought she was a great punt. Enjoy.
Hey buddy,
Actually the girl in the picture is not her. Just to clarify, it very rare that I randomly pick a girl based in Marbella and am very pleasantly surprised. From what I gather the lady I've seen twice goes by the name ' Sweet ' 21 Colombian, 170 cm, 55 g, dark hair down to her waist, large eyes and banging body. Not to large and curvy.
I believe the apartment has 2 girls, and the pictures of the other one might be the girl in the link. I am very tempted to try a threesome this weekend. They will send short videos of them both, if you request through WhatsApp.
I can also confirm the ' Teddy Bears ' recommendation of Sakura. Half Jap / Spanish girl is a fantastic punt. Very attractive and a genuinely lovely person.
It seemed a prime time to try out this Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy thing. The Canadian / South American chick has moved down here from London for the winter and needs a little financial help. I believe 1500 for one month was excellent value taking into account there is no real limit of seeing her.
My ratings of the Colombiana might so slightly over the top, but I genuinely thought she was a great punt. Enjoy.Not possible to even call them now. As AE says pasion website is down. Had hoped to try her Monday but I like the girl in the picture and I really do not enjoy turning up to any apartment not knowing what the girl looks like. I'm just not a hit and miss guy and like to see before I buy. If I turn up and its not the girl in the picture I politely decline and leave. This has happened SO many times in Spain and the UK that it has caused me to abandon independents and it is why I like clubs where I can choose from a LU and know what I'm buying. The frustration of turning up to an apartment, really bursting to get going, and being confronted with someone twice the size of the picture, is horrendous. It then presents a real dilemma. Do I stay and pay to go with someone I would NEVER choose from a LU (because my balls are busting) or do I leave really frustrated. When young I'the do the former, now I do the latter and hope that my disappointment is partially shared by the girl who hoped for 2 hours of my cash but gets nothing because I wasn't prepared to be cheated by photographs (most of which are photoshopped). I've tried asking politely "can I see a selfie please". This irritates the girl and usually sparks a "my pictures are real" response. So you believe them, turn up and the bait and switch has occurred again.
All that said, when seniors like you and Teddy Bears recommend it is not to be treated likely.
Posting this from my suite bed in E92 where I just had another fantastic night!
And for the indie lovers. Pasion has been restored!
Had a fabulous night in E92 on Friday. Will post in the Clubs section as it all felt a bit surreal. Two hours with Monica and Kelly. Terrific. Got to Sunday and decided I needed another punt.
Spent all of 1. 5 hours carefully selecting on both Pasion and Slumi. Selected what seemed to be a stunner within my municipality (to comply etc.) https://www.slumi.com/escorts/estepona/eriana-latina-lady-un-cancelada-selwo-estepona-id-v9a9h.
Lots of good WhatsApp coms. Will she send me some private (normal non-nude) pictures? Yes. Stunning. How old is she ("don't mind if you've said 30 but actually you are 35. Please just tell me. ") response "I'm 30 baby and the pictures are all recent and real" (in Spanish). Asks me if I will try a 3 some with her curvy friend. I politely refuse as curvy looks very fat. 15 minutes before arranged punt time she messages to ask if I could pick her up "on the way" (she has no idea where I'm coming from) at a bus-stop. I arrive at the bus stop. One young lad there and what I can only describe as an old woman. At least 55, fat, not 1% like the girl in the pictures. I park up and message my stunner. "waiting for you near the bus stop". The old woman arrives at the passenger window. I ask her if I can help her. She says it is is Erianaa from the pictures. She is absolutely nothing like the girl in the pictures and she is old. I tell her I'm waiting for someone. She shows me her phone and I am horrified to see my messages to her on WhatsApp. Thinking she is a madam / mami for the girl I ask where the girl is. She frowns, reaches for the door handle and I realise that yet again this independent game is totally hit and miss.
Annoyed at being conned, and now receiving aggressive messages from this fraudster, I decide I need the relief so I'll try again. https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/novedad-sofia-joven-rusa-discreta-543756982.htm.
Girl looks stunning. I am beginning to wonder if my mistake is picking good looking girls. Perhaps if I just chose some ugly ones I'll be fine. Teddy Bears and Magic Sheep picked really sexy looking girls though and had a great time. Though MS now tells me the girl he went with is NOT the girl in the pictures. I arrive at the apartment of this Ukrainian lady. She is absolutely NOTHING like the pictures. It is another rip off. That said, she is not awful, albeit quite overweight. I seriously contemplate abandoning the night but by now I've had my Kamagra with attendant headache and reflux and I need to feel the night is not wasted. As a result, I pay for an hour with a girl I would never have gone anywhere near in a club or line up. It makes me realise how much I really miss FKK clubs and proper Spanish club opening hours. It also makes me realise that when on Friday there were only 11 girls in E92, I think 10 of them were better than this lady and here I am parting with cash to have an hour with her.
Her service is actually pretty good and I ended up having a decent time. But looks are important to me. I have a much better time if I get the combination of looks and service. And when you become sufficiently well known in a club you find that the service is good. Because they know you are a regular / know the management / will be back.
I'm due on business in Marbella tomorrow. I love the look of this girl and have messaged her. She has even sent me a video of what DOES look her in the pictures. I'm giving this one last shot tomorrow. If I get there and she is not the girl in the pictures that will 100% be my final attempt at the independent scene.
A few posts ago, Andalus Expat wanted to tell me how the vast majority of punters here on the CDS rarely ever see a Romanian. That I really should be spreading my wings and trying pastures new. Well, I tried, despite my reluctance. I have had exactly the same problems in London. I do not trust what I see on adult work and only when a girl has selfies with her face will I consider them. And in fairness a number of the better agencies in London do that now. But slumi and pasion are a hotbead for photoshopped scammers. I am not filled with much hope when even one of MS's great reports is based upon seeing a girl he got lucky with. But who is NOT the girl in the picture. Are they ever?
I have described independents as hit and miss before. I will confess that it CAN be hit and miss in a club- of course it can. I have gone to rooms with beautiful girls who are a total let down having promised the earth in the bar. But even when the service is not great, if I am fucking a stunning girl in the room I can live with it. Having to turn up to an indie, not having a clue what she really looks like, then having to session with someone I would never choose from any line up, is an unmitigated disaster.
Andalus expat commented that I can get great value and service from independents for less than half of blowing 500 in a club. He's right. Only I would have paid 500 to avoid getting naked with the first of the above scammers!
If you are not particularly picky about a girl looking good, or just need any hole, or want to spend as little as possible for your fuck, head to these websites. You won't be disappointed. If you want to session with a very pretty girl, with a great body, and know what she looks like, I am afraid these sites are not a great option IMHO. If Guadalhorce near Scandalos had been accessible (its not due to municipality restrictions) I would have been better spending 30 euros with one of the slim attractive black ladies on the street. Not my bag at all, but at least you get to see before you buy.
I have no doubt that if I was prepared to invest a lot of time trying 30 of these girls on these sites I might just find one or two gems. I'm not prepared to do that. It's not just hit and miss. It is predominantly miss. And missing badly. I have expectations that I will be fucking a very pretty girl for my money. I am unwilling to try 50 of them to find one.
However difficult, and provided I can organise things in tandem with legitimate meetings, I shall remain faithful to choosing ladies from line ups in clubs. If not that, massage parlours. If not that, I will skip. Final shot at this tomorrow. And I hold out little to no hope of it being genuine.
Spent all of 1. 5 hours carefully selecting on both Pasion and Slumi. Selected what seemed to be a stunner within my municipality (to comply etc.) https://www.slumi.com/escorts/estepona/eriana-latina-lady-un-cancelada-selwo-estepona-id-v9a9h.
Lots of good WhatsApp coms. Will she send me some private (normal non-nude) pictures? Yes. Stunning. How old is she ("don't mind if you've said 30 but actually you are 35. Please just tell me. ") response "I'm 30 baby and the pictures are all recent and real" (in Spanish). Asks me if I will try a 3 some with her curvy friend. I politely refuse as curvy looks very fat. 15 minutes before arranged punt time she messages to ask if I could pick her up "on the way" (she has no idea where I'm coming from) at a bus-stop. I arrive at the bus stop. One young lad there and what I can only describe as an old woman. At least 55, fat, not 1% like the girl in the pictures. I park up and message my stunner. "waiting for you near the bus stop". The old woman arrives at the passenger window. I ask her if I can help her. She says it is is Erianaa from the pictures. She is absolutely nothing like the girl in the pictures and she is old. I tell her I'm waiting for someone. She shows me her phone and I am horrified to see my messages to her on WhatsApp. Thinking she is a madam / mami for the girl I ask where the girl is. She frowns, reaches for the door handle and I realise that yet again this independent game is totally hit and miss.
Annoyed at being conned, and now receiving aggressive messages from this fraudster, I decide I need the relief so I'll try again. https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/novedad-sofia-joven-rusa-discreta-543756982.htm..Every so many years, guys like you and me need an experience like this to remind us why we do how we do, which involves leaving these escorts alone, and sticking to the much, much, much higher concentration of fuckable hotties who can be found in the clubs. Although, in this instance, I must conclude that you've been a glutton for punishment, taking multiple hits for the team LOL!
NecessaryEvil
11-22-20, 22:52
Well gents Friday just gone I had finished with a client near to the Guadalhorce and had a couple of hours free, so I went for a prowl. Saw Christine strutting her stuff at her usual haunt opposite the gasolinera on the main road that leads to Bauhaus and the airport.
She's a typical Romanian Roma, long straight black hair, dark skinned, micro skirt, long black FUCK ME BOOTS, legs, arse and tits to die for. She speaks pretty passable English and very good Spanish.
She knows my car now and spots me, starts waving so I thought "Hey why not".
Picked her up, straight away she's tugging and rubbing little evil as I'm driving us around the back of the shops and banks on Calle Castelao to park up and do the deed. We got in the back and I gave her 50. Yeah I know that's not cheap for a fuck in the car. But I've done her before so I know what's "cumming".
She gets naked apart from the FMB's and goes to work on little evil. A bit of "baby belly " damage but as I said tits, arse and legs to die for.
BBBJ SUPERB, loads of wanking, DFK loads of full on tongue action, she then says "Fuck me" I said "No you fuck me".
So she climbs on top and fucks me brainless, real intense frenzied cowgirl, full tongue DFK the full hit. She squeezes little evil with her pussy during the fucking and I can't hang on, I CUM really fast!
Attitude 10/10. Fucking 15/10. Absolutely superb I cannot recommend her highly enough. She lives in Torremolinos and is happy to do 1 hour for 100 at her flat.
She's going back to Romania for a month 1st December. Note to self, visit the Guadalhorce before Dec 1st!
Andalus Expat
11-24-20, 14:22
And for the indie lovers. Pasion has been restored!I think you may have been a bit previous with your announcement, there, PayForIt. The pages you were seeing may have been old ones from before the site crashed. It still wouldn't accept new uploads until nearly midday, Sunday. I notice the tool for uploading photos is still Flash. Which gives some idea how clunky the rest of the site must be. Not surprising it's vulnerable to attack. We may see more of this.
I'm not surprised you have trouble with the indie market if that's the way you approach it. Firstly, if the photos look too good to be true, they're too good to be true. Girl #1 are pro-shots & could have been nicked from anywhere. Doubt if any two are of the same girl. There's no continuity across them. Girl #2 Russian / Ukrainian & at that quality would be 250/ hour agency talent. Not doing 1/2 quickies for 60. Secondly, never ever go out with your tongue hanging out, panting. You need to be thinking with the brain between your ears, not the one further down.
Personally, I regard any first encounter with a puta as an audition. If she doesn't come up to scratch I walk. It's only lost me is a few minutes of my time & if it's a matter of necessity I'll have a back-up the other end of a phone call. If I decide to stay, it's often half an hour for a test drive, see how she performs. See if the services promised are delivered. If she's very good & we click I might extend. If she doesn't match expectations, so it's cost me a few Euros & I've probably had a pleasant interlude warm me up for that back-up.
Mostly I see girls I've seen before. They know what I like. I know what they like. One goes back nearly 5 years. More you go with a girl, better it gets. It's like having a very filthy girlfriend without the problems.
Money? With the regular girls, probably averages under 50 euros / hour. Sex time, not contact time. The clock's not running if we go out to dinner. They come to me. I pay them whatever I want to spend They stay as long as they like. Often that's the rest of the night. Indies can be very flexible about time & money with regular clients they like. They're not stupid. A regular clients better than sitting waiting for a phone not to ring.
I'm not surprised you have trouble with the indie market if that's the way you approach it. Firstly, if the photos look too good to be true, they're too good to be true. Girl #1 are pro-shots & could have been nicked from anywhere. Doubt if any two are of the same girl. There's no continuity across them. Girl #2 Russian / Ukrainian & at that quality would be 250/ hour agency talent. Not doing 1/2 quickies for 60. Secondly, never ever go out with your tongue hanging out, panting. You need to be thinking with the brain between your ears, not the one further down.
Personally, I regard any first encounter with a puta as an audition. If she doesn't come up to scratch I walk. It's only lost me is a few minutes of my time & if it's a matter of necessity I'll have a back-up the other end of a phone call. If I decide to stay, it's often half an hour for a test drive, see how she performs. See if the services promised are delivered. If she's very good & we click I might extend. If she doesn't match expectations, so it's cost me a few Euros & I've probably had a pleasant interlude warm me up for that back-up.
Mostly I see girls I've seen before. They know what I like. I know what they like. One goes back nearly 5 years. More you go with a girl, better it gets. It's like having a very filthy girlfriend without the problems.
Money? With the regular girls, probably averages under 50 euros / hour. Sex time, not contact time. The clock's not running if we go out to dinner. They come to me. I pay them whatever I want to spend They stay as long as they like. Often that's the rest of the night. Indies can be very flexible about time & money with regular clients they like. They're not stupid. A regular clients better than sitting waiting for a phone not to ring.I think this sums up indie's for me as follows:
1. If they look good in the pictures don't select them as they won't be good!
2. If they look old, fat or ugly in the pictures they'll be true. But do I really want them. NO!
3. Totally agree that sessions with girls you know are always best. But you have to get to know them first and with indies that means doing a lot of your "auditioning" with a lot of girls you would not choose to spend time with. Not for me.
4. If you are getting sex for 50 euros an hour I have to wonder what the girls are like! Even in some of the remotest areas of Asia the girls want more than that! Sure you can get it for less. Even in Guadalhorce. But a quick BJ or FS behind some garage or in a car is really not for me. I suppose if you are looking after them, accommodating, feeding them the sex at 50/ hour might be another thing.
It's one of those - "each to their own". Just not something I'm likely to try again in a hurry when SO many of the girls in the pictures are just not the girl you'll meet. Some of the agencies in London have started to beat the bait and switch by introducing selfies onto the girls page so that you get to see what she is really like. Until slumi or pasion do that I'm afraid as they say on Dragon's Den - "I'm out".
I have no doubt that if you are prepared to spend a lot of time and effort on cultivating relationships with a number of prostitutes you'll get decent service and get to find the odd gem. I don't have the time or the inclination for it when I can (still) go to a club, have a few beers and select from a lot of girls. Did two nights this week in E92 and Glass Palace and the clubs have managed to find ways to operate fully by converting to "hotels" you can stay in, where for "residents" you book into a room then the club remains open all night for residents only. The quality of the girls at GP was surprisingly good. The beauty of this, at least for me, is that there is no wondering what my selection actually looks like. I can see her in the flesh, talk to her in the bar to find out if I think the chemistry will be right etc.
And finally. Thank you for the kind PM. Much appreciated. Have fun. I leave the CDS for pastures new this week but undoubtedly return next year.
Andalus Expat
11-29-20, 01:47
I think this sums up indie's for me as follows:
1. If they look good in the pictures don't select them as they won't be good!
2. If they look old, fat or ugly in the pictures they'll be true. But do I really want them. NO!
3. Totally agree that sessions with girls you know are always best. But you have to get to know them first and with indies that means doing a lot of your "auditioning" with a lot of girls you would not choose to spend time with. Not for me.
4. If you are getting sex for 50 euros an hour I have to wonder what the girls are like! Even in some of the remotest areas of Asia the girls want more than that! Sure you can get it for less. Even in Guadalhorce. But a quick BJ or FS behind some garage or in a car is really not for me. I suppose if you are looking after them, accommodating, feeding them the sex at 50/ hour might be another thing.
It's one of those - "each to their own". Just not something I'm likely to try again in a hurry when SO many of the girls in the pictures are just not the girl you'll meet. Some of the agencies in London have started to beat the bait and switch by introducing selfies onto the girls page so that you get to see what she is really like. Until slumi or pasion do that I'm afraid as they say on Dragon's Den - "I'm out"..I think you're root problem, here, PayForIt, is you seem to be fairly clueless about the world of prostitution. For a start, you persist in talking about "indies" as any girl working outside of the puticlubs you visit. The actuality is your club girls are independents. As are streetgirls, agency girls & some of the girls you might meet in apartments. They pay for their own work accommodation (if they have such) & generally choose their own clients & charges & the duration of your encounter. You are their client. The girls who aren't independents work in apartments or villas. They get a split of the money you pay for the service & maybe a split of the money on drinks you pay for. You are a client of the house, not the girl. The house does the advertising, generally answers enquiries, sets the charges & manages the time you are with the girl. The dreaded knock on the door. The only discretion the girl has is in offering extra services, like anal sex, where she'll normally keep the money charged. She doesn't really have any option over providing a service to you. Girls who reject clients get quickly shown the door.
What you call FKK's operate in much the same way as Spanish puticlubs, as far as I'm aware from knowing girls who have worked them. They're from after I lived in Germany. Freikorperkultur means something entirely different to me.
And like most things, it's all about incentives. There are good working apartments & villas because regular satisfied clients are the bread & butter of any business. They get & keep the better girls. And there are rip off joints. Less common with villas because they have a big investment at stake. Independent girls working in their own or shared apartments have the same incentives. The girl who makes a good living at the game has a full regular client book. But of course there are the girls who will rent a room, do the false photos & the lousy service, change photos, name & phone number & do it all over again, somewhere else. Trick is working out which is which. No substitute for experience.
As for what you may find. Let Mr Bear speak:
I have also seen Noelia from www.secretgarden.sexy in her apartment in los Boliches, she is a very nice MILF probably in her mid 30's with a very nice body indeed! Enhanced tits, a firm ass and a beautiful face what else do you need really! Her cock sucking skill is second to none really! (Just like at Artemis FKK) those who knows they know! She doesn't speak any english that's the only negative I could say about her, super friendly attitude that I will for sure try to repeat again. 80 for an hour. Highly recommended!https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/dispuesta-a-todo-100-cachonda-542832800.htmIf you'd been able to accept my invitation you'd have met her. It was her birthday, yesterday. And a few of the other girls. We had a party, went on all night thanks to curfew. TeddyBears met Liz, last summer. You can read his report.
Clubs? I suppose if you want to compile a scorecard of pretty young girls fucked. I did a lot of puticlubs when I first came to Spain. Mainly up north of Valencia. Barcelona's not far from where I lived in France. I know Estark fairly well. I lived 10 minute's walk from it. I can remember precisely two of the girls. The rest I'd forgotten before I got home. Don't know why I wasted so much time & money. Mostly they're rubbish, unless you have very low standards. They're hardly incentivized are they? From their perspective, this is the first time they've met you & probably the last. Especially if you're a foreign visitor. They've got your money. Now it's let you get done what you came to do & get out the door. It's a ghastly job. A shift of being perched on high heels, back aching but a false smile plastered across their face, in the hope they can sales talk some asshole upstairs. (That's girls talking, not me) As far as good sex is concerned, it's like evening out out at McDonalds.
I think you're root problem, here, PayForIt, is you seem to be fairly clueless about the world of prostitution..If my problem is being clueless, yours is a total lack of manners and decorum.
You speak about mongering as if you are the World's expert. Maybe you are. I don't claim to be. But I've had a lot of experience and most of it with girls who have to advertise to get work have been poor. Just my 2 cents. Not clueless. Informed based upon experience.
I thanked you for your invitation, which was the polite thing to do, and you respond with insults. Speaks volumes. I won't bother responding to any of your other posts, and thank God I didn't accept the invitation. I maybe clueless but I have some class.
You stick to your world playing host to hookers almost like the CDS Hugh Hefner, and I'll stick to mine. One I know like the back of my hand, enjoy greatly and I very much doubt many of those who have thanked me for a lot of reports over the years would agree with your clueless description. But well done. You've managed to stifle entirely my appetite for reporting on the CDS thread at all.
I may not agree with your views, but I try to avoid being arrogant and rude. You really should try it.
I am surprised at you PFI, you come across as a reasonable intelligent and experienced poster on here.
Yet you constantly are taken in by AExPat's goading.
It beggars belief.
The guy (Ex Pat) obviously has issues, he appears like his sole gratification is coming on here spiting his 'holier than thou' attitude.
I think you did the right thing not taking him up on his invitation.
I can only imagine how bad an experience would be in his company telling you how great he is!
Yawn, yawn, yawn!
I am surprised at you PFI, you come across as a reasonable intelligent and experienced poster on here.
Yet you constantly are taken in by AExPat's goading.
It beggars belief.
The guy (Ex Pat) obviously has issues, he appears like his sole gratification is coming on here spiting his 'holier than thou' attitude.
I think you did the right thing not taking him up on his invitation.
I can only imagine how bad an experience would be in his company telling you how great he is!
Yawn, yawn, yawn!Maybe you are correct and I should ignore it all. But I do think his nick should change to Andalus Expert. To each their own. Just not willing to be drawn into it any longer. As you say, I appear to rise to the bait. I shall be a little surprised if he doesn't have another shot. But I'm not even in Spain now, and don't much care. I'll post in the Clubs only section but I think my time posting in the main CDS section is over. What is hilarious is that if you go back through say 20 pages AE doesn't actually post any information about girls / names / sessions which were good / poor / locations etc. Which is a surprise for a guy who claims "no substitute for experience". But we are not treated to any. Just monologue about his expertise in the mongering scene and how he is able to get the best sex on the planet for less than the price of a meal. I'm at it again. Rising to this silly bait. Well said.
ExpatLover
11-30-20, 22:22
Again, PayForIt, you're looking at things from the very narrow perspective of puticlubs. I'll give you it's entirely likely the RO's are going home. But most of us don't see a RO from one year to another. They've got a dreadful reputation as scam artists & fakes. We all avoid them like the plague. I would think clubs are the only places they can find work. Go look at the registration requirements on AdultWork. Last time I opened an account for a girl, there were extra validation procedures for Romanians & Bulgarians over & above what's required for EU nationals. Any RO's you do come across tend to pass themselves off as something else. Italians or whatever. There's one in Marbella pretending she's French. I speak better French than she does. The girls working on the CDS are mainly south & central Americans, a scattering of Russians, Ukrainians & central Europeans & of course, Spanish. Indeed the RO can get a cheap coach or a lift north (I had an epic trip myself a few years back returning half a dozen for a mate. Try Constanta for an alternative holiday destination. Avoid Timisoara at any cost). The Sudamericanas are looking at expensive flights. If they can get one or even afford one, after such a lean summer. As far as I can see, girls off the club circuit are finding themselves apartments & dropping back into the general puta population. Or moving north to France, Belgium, Holland etc where there's still money going around.
And you do have to factor in the mentality of putas. They really aren't very bright. You're not going to find many economists amongst them. And they have an enormous sense of entitlement. The general expectation is they'll chance upon some magic goldseam of money so they can carry on as if nothing has changed. Very few are yet accepting that the best way to earn is to cut prices & out-compete the other girls. Some are even doing the very Spanish thing & demanding more money.Pretty and not stupid girls first will try to find a sugar daddy, second they will go to a serious escort agency and get 2 or 3 customers per week, in the recent years beautiful, natural, young beauties will not accept to get fuck 10 or 20 times a day for 50 euros the risk to get sick or in trouble is just to high.
Andalus Expat
12-10-20, 00:57
For those who've punted in Fuengirola in the past. Tony who ran the well known Fuengirola Port (you got what it said on the tin) apartment for many years recently died after a lengthy illness. I've no doubt there's many would join me in extending to Anna our condolences.
As for:
What is hilarious is that if you go back through say 20 pages AE doesn't actually post any information about girls / names / sessions which were good / poor / locations etc. Which is a surprise for a guy who claims "no substitute for experience". But we are not treated to any. .Looking back over just the last 10 pages, Mia Prada, Vanesa + 3 other girls sharing the house, Victoria, Andrea & Saray (now calling herself Debbi) were mentioned favourably by me on 25 October, Alejandra on 12 September & Thae on 15 August. Like you say, "no substitute for experience" If you were only looking for links to ads, I'm not stupid enough to post them. They are dead ends very quickly. The two links you posted re your unsuccessful foray round Marbella had expired within a week. That's regrettably how on-line advertising works. But I do try to give enough information, a search using it will find the girl if she's currently advertising. And anyone looking for a particular girl's welcome to PM me for phone numbers etc. As for whether they were good or not, I don't recommend the ones that weren't. And I don't generally bother about recommending girls are only expecting to be on this coast for a short period. What would be the point?
For those who've punted in Fuengirola in the past. Tony who ran the well known Fuengirola Port (you got what it said on the tin) apartment for many years recently died after a lengthy illness. I've no doubt there's many would join me in extending to Anna our condolences.
As for:
Looking back over just the last 10 pages, Mia Prada, Vanesa + 3 other girls sharing the house, Victoria, Andrea & Saray (now calling herself Debbi) were mentioned favourably by me on 25 October, Alejandra on 12 September & Thae on 15 August. Like you say, "no substitute for experience" If you were only looking for links to ads, I'm not stupid enough to post them. They are dead ends very quickly. The two links you posted re your unsuccessful foray round Marbella had expired within a week. That's regrettably how on-line advertising works. But I do try to give enough information, a search using it will find the girl if she's currently advertising. And anyone looking for a particular girl's welcome to PM me for phone numbers etc. As for whether they were good or not, I don't recommend the ones that weren't. And I don't generally bother about recommending girls are only expecting to be on this coast for a short period. What would be the point?Hi Andalus expat.
Could you provide more info about saray (debi), how is the service? Rate? What is included?
Thank you.
Andalus Expat
12-29-20, 02:23
Hi Andalus expat.
Could you provide more info about saray (debi), how is the service? Rate? What is included?
Thank you.Be pleased to. Debbi has a house on an urbanization about a couple of kliks from Mijas Pueblo. I've put contact details, services & photos on the secretgarden. Sexy website. I think she normally charges 100/ hour for incalls. Anal is probably an extra. As for the quality of service; I met her a year or so back & she certainly impressed me first time out. But, as with any girl, a lot depends on how you take to each other. As far as we're concerned, we seemed to click & we've seen a lot of each other. Turned out we've several mutual friends so we meet other than for paid reasons & we exchange a lot of calls & messages. I like her. She's good company as well as being adventurous in bed, on the sofa or wherever else we find appropriate. I've yet to get her together with one of the other girls but I know she enjoys girl / girl games.
Other action in the last couple weeks. Tamara, now calling herself Sarita, has an apartment in Calle Capitan, just round the corner from mine in Fuengirola. I've known her for a while but she'd been working up in Ronda for a few months & called to tell me she was back in town. Subsequently dropped by for a chat. To be honest she's not really what I like. About 40 & a tad on the hefty side. But she does go like a rocket, is up for anything & enormous fun. So I gave in to temptation. She was telling me she has some other girls working in the apartment, so a couple of days after went round for a look & brought Lucia home with me. Mid 30's, good figure, ample naturals. Certainly nothing to complain about her oral skills. So good, we went back to that for a finish & most of it went into her mouth. So that's one down & two more to try.
Saturday I got a pleasant surprise. There was a girl advertising I thought was a Dominicana I met a few months back. Different name, of course, but the photos looked similar. Mulata with good sized naturals & a trim figure. Turned out to be a different girl altogether. Colombiana from Cali & can't be much more than the advertised 19. Currently calling herself both Natalia & Carolina in different ads. And a little gem. 100/ hour incall plus 20 if you want her arse. And I wanted her arse. But she did some very good uncovered oral work first & then she used a vibrator on her clit while I fucked her vaginally until she orgasmed. Genuine too. She was soaking wet. Over onto her knees, & in the back door. And she loves it. She was still pushing back hard long after I'd finished. I'm already planning to get her round to my place for a rematch. She says she doesn't fuck girls but I'll have Soraya here & if anyone can convert her she will.
Touched down last week on CDS a bit far out this time wondering if anyone's been e92 this time of year and if its worth a 30 min drive? I would assume a lot of them have gone home for Christmas but thought NYE could be busy?
Be pleased to. Debbi has a house on an urbanization about a couple of kliks from Mijas Pueblo. I've put contact details, services & photos on the secretgarden. Sexy website. I think she normally charges 100/ hour for incalls. Anal is probably an extra. As for the quality of service; I met her a year or so back & she certainly impressed me first time out. But, as with any girl, a lot depends on how you take to each other. As far as we're concerned, we seemed to click & we've seen a lot of each other. Turned out we've several mutual friends so we meet other than for paid reasons & we exchange a lot of calls & messages. I like her. She's good company as well as being adventurous in bed, on the sofa or wherever else we find appropriate. I've yet to get her together with one of the other girls but I know she enjoys girl / girl games.
Other action in the last couple weeks. Tamara, now calling herself Sarita, has an apartment in Calle Capitan, just round the corner from mine in Fuengirola. I've known her for a while but she'd been working up in Ronda for a few months & called to tell me she was back in town. Subsequently dropped by for a chat. To be honest she's not really what I like. About 40 & a tad on the hefty side. But she does go like a rocket, is up for anything & enormous fun. So I gave in to temptation. She was telling me she has some other girls working in the apartment, so a couple of days after went round for a look & brought Lucia home with me. Mid 30's, good figure, ample naturals. Certainly nothing to complain about her oral skills. So good, we went back to that for a finish & most of it went into her mouth. So that's one down & two more to try..Thanks for the reply Andaluz expat.
I think that in your reports that you were talking about a Russian house near Fuengirola fair ground, where is this exactly? How is service over there? Have you been there recently?
Thank you.
Andalus Expat
01-09-21, 00:50
Thanks for the reply Andaluz expat.
I think that in your reports that you were talking about a Russian house near Fuengirola fair ground, where is this exactly? How is service over there? Have you been there recently?
Thank you.Russian house? Vanesa's Mexican not Russian. Has 3 or 4 other Latinas working with her usually. Here's the current Pasion ad.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/griego-trios-parejas-fiestas-24-horas-542684493.htm
Haven't been there for a month or so. No reason to. I have my hands full enough as it is. But we exchange messages regularly & she Whatsapped me photos of the current posse couple of weeks back.
If you're thinking of the apartment the southern side of the Feria run by the Ukrainian, I'd give it a miss if I was you. Bit too much bait & switch & optimistic fotos for my taste.
Russian house? Vanesa's Mexican not Russian. Has 3 or 4 other Latinas working with her usually. Here's the current Pasion ad.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/griego-trios-parejas-fiestas-24-horas-542684493.htm
Haven't been there for a month or so. No reason to. I have my hands full enough as it is. But we exchange messages regularly & she Whatsapped me photos of the current posse couple of weeks back.
If you're thinking of the apartment the southern side of the Feria run by the Ukrainian, I'd give it a miss if I was you. Bit too much bait & switch & optimistic fotos for my taste.Thanks,
I think it is the Ukrainian one, where is it exactly? There are some nice photos on pasion, that's why I am interested, do you think that they are fake? Have you been there and how was your experience?
Thank you.
Andalus Expat
01-09-21, 20:22
Thanks,
I think it is the Ukrainian one, where is it exactly? There are some nice photos on pasion, that's why I am interested, do you think that they are fake? Have you been there and how was your experience?
Thank you.I think you may find they are a little older than their photos. And bigger. And I don't appreciate the woman who runs it treating me like a mug. I've forgotten more about the puta game than she knows. Including all the tricks can be played. Telling you one price on the phone & raising it 20€ when you arrive because it's "later" is one of them. Believe me, there are better places to go.
I think you may find they are a little older than their photos. And bigger. And I don't appreciate the woman who runs it treating me like a mug. I've forgotten more about the puta game than she knows. Including all the tricks can be played. Telling you one price on the phone & raising it 20 when you arrive because it's "later" is one of them. Believe me, there are better places to go.No, I don't like these surprises, I have seen the photos and they are really nice, that's why I asked but if it is all tricks and stuff then its really not worth the risk. Where do you recommend? I like houses or apartments better (to have more than just one option), and I am more interested in EE than Latina (don't like too much curvy and stuff).
Thank you.
Andalus Expat
01-14-21, 10:52
No, I don't like these surprises, I have seen the photos and they are really nice, that's why I asked but if it is all tricks and stuff then its really not worth the risk. Where do you recommend? I like houses or apartments better (to have more than just one option), and I am more interested in EE than Latina (don't like too much curvy and stuff).
Thank you.I'd say you're at the wrong end of Europe if that's your preference. There's hardly any here. The Spanish economy is really taking a caning. Especially on the CDS where there really isn't anything else but the tourist / leisure industry feeding money into it. With not much dosh around & few foreign visitors there's reduced demand for putas. And the locals were never that keen on Romanians etc anyway. They have more cultural affinity with the S. Americans. Apart from those that have set up home here & have ties, most have headed north. Either home or to work where they may be more welcome.
That's not to say you won't find some delightful Russians etc through the agencies or at select houses catering to wealthy expats. But you'll be moving out of the half hour shag market & into serious money. That sort of quality can be 200€/ hour upwards. (And for the connoisseur of fine woman-flesh worth every cent) There's even a considerable number of Brit girls live & work here. But you're not going to find those looking at Pasion ads. It's not an end of the market gets discussed here much of late, although I imagine Magic Sheep would have some insights. Conversations have been mostly about the club meat-racks.
I'd say you're at the wrong end of Europe if that's your preference. There's hardly any here. The Spanish economy is really taking a caning. Especially on the CDS where there really isn't anything else but the tourist / leisure industry feeding money into it. With not much dosh around & few foreign visitors there's reduced demand for putas. And the locals were never that keen on Romanians etc anyway. They have more cultural affinity with the S. Americans. Apart from those that have set up home here & have ties, most have headed north. Either home or to work where they may be more welcome.
That's not to say you won't find some delightful Russians etc through the agencies or at select houses catering to wealthy expats. But you'll be moving out of the half hour shag market & into serious money. That sort of quality can be 200/ hour upwards. (And for the connoisseur of fine woman-flesh worth every cent) There's even a considerable number of Brit girls live & work here. But you're not going to find those looking at Pasion ads. It's not an end of the market gets discussed here much of late, although I imagine Magic Sheep would have some insights. Conversations have been mostly about the club meat-racks.Yes, I understand what you say. And you are right.
I have looked at some agencies websites and the prices are indeed 200 upwards, but how reliable are these agencies? Have you had any experience with them? I mean they are worth it or its just nice photos and then ripping off. Because at those rate one would expect very high quality as you have mentioned. So it is very risky to try them without knowing anything about them or a review from other punters.
By saying that I didn't like Latina I wanted to say that I don't like very curvy and stuff. I like slim, tall, blonde and EE type, nationality doesn't matter rele. I know some S Ame can have EE type bodies / face, so if you know any, please recommend them.
What do you think about villas and apartments? Can you recommend some good / high quality villas?
Thank you very much.
Yes, I understand what you say. And you are right.
I have looked at some agencies websites and the prices are indeed 200 upwards, but how reliable are these agencies? Have you had any experience with them? I mean they are worth it or its just nice photos and then ripping off. Because at those rate one would expect very high quality as you have mentioned. So it is very risky to try them without knowing anything about them or a review from other punters.
Risky how? Worst thing that'll happen is that you'll turn up and instead of using an hour to do what you want to do, you will be the victim of a bait and switch, and will just turn around without spending the hour there.
I've not seen many reviews or recommendations, so it's a good opportunity to try yourself and report back.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos/658900303.htm has decent and seemingly changing girls in the 25-30 year old bracket that provide mostly decent service. SA (Colombians), but ranging from slim to "a few kg too much", but not fat. One of only a few places I've visited more than once. The photos are semi-professional and probably photoshoped somewhat to improve things, but are IME genuine.
Risky how? Worst thing that'll happen is that you'll turn up and instead of using an hour to do what you want to do, you will be the victim of a bait and switch, and will just turn around without spending the hour there.
I've not seen many reviews or recommendations, so it's a good opportunity to try yourself and report back.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos/658900303.htm has decent and seemingly changing girls in the 25-30 year old bracket that provide mostly decent service. SA (Colombians), but ranging from slim to "a few kg too much", but not fat. One of only a few places I've visited more than once. The photos are semi-professional and probably photoshoped somewhat to improve things, but are IME genuine.Yh, they have an instag page too, it is a villa, I have looked at them and not really my type, and not cheap either. Agencies I mean, if you google escorts Marbella or costa del sol, you will be directed to pages where there are great looking ones but as Andul expat said the prices range from 250 to 500 an hour. I mean they are worth trying but I don't dare to try them first. Lets see if someone knows something and says something, maybe magic sheep or andalu expat.
Risky how? Worst thing that'll happen is that you'll turn up and instead of using an hour to do what you want to do, you will be the victim of a bait and switch, and will just turn around without spending the hour there.
I've not seen many reviews or recommendations, so it's a good opportunity to try yourself and report back.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos/658900303.htm has decent and seemingly changing girls in the 25-30 year old bracket that provide mostly decent service. SA (Colombians), but ranging from slim to "a few kg too much", but not fat. One of only a few places I've visited more than once. The photos are semi-professional and probably photoshoped somewhat to improve things, but are IME genuine.I'm sorry but I don't agree. There are LOTS of bait and switch on the Spanish forums. I've tried many times over the years. Including last year, with horrible results. You get the odd genuine advertiser. Mostly they are very photoshopped. I think you have a lot to lose. You go out really looking forward to a great time with a very attractive woman, only to be horribly disappointed when you arrive. Two choices. Go with it because you built up your expectations. Which means you are paying for something you would never have selected, or leave, as you suggest, very disappointed, ready to hit the forum again and repeat the whole disappointing exercise.
When you live in countries like the UK there are not that many other options. Some of the escort agencies in London now have selfies. A bit help. But on using something like pasion I would say if no selfie don't bother.
Think about this and it's not difficult to see a very simple explanation. Andalus Expat wants to refer to the clubs as meat racks. He is anti-clubs. What is pasion if not a meat rack?! Here is the simple explanation: attractive girls are fine working in clubs as they know that in the flesh, no photoshopping. They'll get picked and make money. They don't mind the competition and it is a MUCH safer environment than having some dude turn up at your apartment without any comfort or knowledge of the guy who might be a serial attacker. No security to call, no bouncer, just deal with it alone. In a club not only does the guy get to select a girl he finds attractive, but she gets a look at him too. Is he clean, does he speak ok, is he very drunk? Worse case she goes in the room and the guy gets heavy handed, she says she need the bathroom, gets out and informs the security and the punter is ejected. So girls who look pretty good have a lot of reasons to work in clubs. Sure they have to pay. But then they get protection and quite a bit of security.
Conversely, girls who are overweight, not attractive, know they won't get selected in clubs. They will have paid entry, sit for hours and will earn nothing. Obvious solution: get on pasion with some photoshopped pics and at least 1 out of every 2 dudes who turns up will be ready to get some action and will be willing to forgive a few pounds or missing teeth, and will pay, get it over and leave. The perfect punter.
I've little doubt that Andalus won't be able to resist the temptation to scream that the girls at his villa are stunning etc.
But truth is that there is no substitute for being able to see a girl, or girls, in the flesh from a Line Up. And on the CDS punters are blessed with plenty of clubs to choose from where they can be sure that there will be at least 2 or 3 girls in the line up who look really good.
It's no contest. Makes perfect sense that the ugly, or fat or unattractive girls turn to pasion and other sites. I've tried both for years. If you get known in a club, you get great service and pretty girls. Guaranteed. If you use pasion and others its a complete lottery.
I'm sorry but I don't agree. There are LOTS of bait and switch on the Spanish forums. I've tried many times over the years. Including last year, with horrible results. You get the odd genuine advertiser. Mostly they are very photoshopped. I think you have a lot to lose. You go out really looking forward to a great time with a very attractive woman, only to be horribly disappointed when you arrive. Two choices. Go with it because you built up your expectations. Which means you are paying for something you would never have selected, or leave, as you suggest, very disappointed, ready to hit the forum again and repeat the whole disappointing exercise.
When you live in countries like the UK there are not that many other options. Some of the escort agencies in London now have selfies. A bit help. But on using something like pasion I would say if no selfie don't bother.
Think about this and it's not difficult to see a very simple explanation. Andalus Expat wants to refer to the clubs as meat racks. He is anti-clubs. What is pasion if not a meat rack?! Here is the simple explanation: attractive girls are fine working in clubs as they know that in the flesh, no photoshopping. They'll get picked and make money. They don't mind the competition and it is a MUCH safer environment than having some dude turn up at your apartment without any comfort or knowledge of the guy who might be a serial attacker. No security to call, no bouncer, just deal with it alone. In a club not only does the guy get to select a girl he finds attractive, but she gets a look at him too. Is he clean, does he speak ok, is he very drunk? Worse case she goes in the room and the guy gets heavy handed, she says she need the bathroom, gets out and informs the security and the punter is ejected. So girls who look pretty good have a lot of reasons to work in clubs. Sure they have to pay. But then they get protection and quite a bit of security..That's true. The worst thing is to go there expecting a Barbie and then see something 7 times bigger than that.
I mean everyone is different, some people like good service and don't care much about the face and body, in the clubs you get to see what's available, and if you like what you see you can go up, but service may not be good, its same with the independents too, but usually the service is good if they are locals and don't move around much. Some girls in the clubs move around a lot so some of them may not be willing to please you as a client, because they think you will see them only once.
There are some very nice independent ones too but its always better not to risk and see what other punters say. The positives of the independent is that its usually cheaper and you have more privacy, one negative about clubs is that no one wants to be spotted around it by his family, wife etc. If you are single then this is no problem.
I'm sorry but I don't agree. There are LOTS of bait and switch on the Spanish forums. I've tried many times over the years. Including last year, with horrible results. You get the odd genuine advertiser. Mostly they are very photoshopped. I think you have a lot to lose. You go out really looking forward to a great time with a very attractive woman, only to be horribly disappointed when you arrive. Two choices. Go with it because you built up your expectations. Which means you are paying for something you would never have selected, or leave, as you suggest, very disappointed, ready to hit the forum again and repeat the whole disappointing exercise.
Ok, I agree with you if that's your mindset. I. e. , you're really looking forward to something with great expectations and then you get disappointed.
I'm a bit different in that I don't have much expectations at all, so when I try out some new add, it's just some place I arrange to stop at on the way to / from something else. If I'm the victim of a bait and switch, it's just an annoyance and I don't feel I have lost much at all. Rather, I just saved some money instead.
Actually, just as often as the bait and switch for me has been the "bait and gone". I arrive at the location as agreed and whatsapp them "I'm here", and they don't answer for 15 minutes or more, by which time I've left. A few times they didn't even answer at all. I just note that, and try some other add next time.
Ok, I agree with you if that's your mindset. I. e. , you're really looking forward to something with great expectations and then you get disappointed.
I'm a bit different in that I don't have much expectations at all, so when I try out some new add, it's just some place I arrange to stop at on the way to / from something else. If I'm the victim of a bait and switch, it's just an annoyance and I don't feel I have lost much at all. Rather, I just saved some money instead.
Actually, just as often as the bait and switch for me has been the "bait and gone". I arrive at the location as agreed and whatsapp them "I'm here", and they don't answer for 15 minutes or more, by which time I've left. A few times they didn't even answer at all. I just note that, and try some other add next time.And I think your post proved my point better than mine! What a hassle. Just not worth it. If you want to monger, go somewhere where you are almost guaranteed to get it without any disappointment at all, no wondering if they'll answer, or you having to leave, or bait and switch! Keep safe.
I'm sorry but I don't agree. There are LOTS of bait and switch on the Spanish forums. I've tried many times over the years. Including last year, with horrible results. You get the odd genuine advertiser. Mostly they are very photoshopped. I think you have a lot to lose. You go out really looking forward to a great time with a very attractive woman, only to be horribly disappointed when you arrive. Two choices. Go with it because you built up your expectations. Which means you are paying for something you would never have selected, or leave, as you suggest, very disappointed, ready to hit the forum again and repeat the whole disappointing exercise.
When you live in countries like the UK there are not that many other options. Some of the escort agencies in London now have selfies. A bit help. But on using something like pasion I would say if no selfie don't bother.
Think about this and it's not difficult to see a very simple explanation. Andalus Expat wants to refer to the clubs as meat racks. He is anti-clubs. What is pasion if not a meat rack?! Here is the simple explanation: attractive girls are fine working in clubs as they know that in the flesh, no photoshopping. They'll get picked and make money. They don't mind the competition and it is a MUCH safer environment than having some dude turn up at your apartment without any comfort or knowledge of the guy who might be a serial attacker. No security to call, no bouncer, just deal with it alone. In a club not only does the guy get to select a girl he finds attractive, but she gets a look at him too.Yeah, I've never bothered with escorts. But if you're looking for escorts (which I'm not, prefer the clubs) I know a site which could be a bit more reliable since it contains a lot of posts from different clients as well as the escort in question. I was going to send you the link in a pm, but apparently I can no longer PM.
Yeah, I've never bothered with escorts. But if you're looking for escorts (which I'm not, prefer the clubs) I know a site which could be a bit more reliable since it contains a lot of posts from different clients as well as the escort in question. I was going to send you the link in a pm, but apparently I can no longer PM.Is that the "https://lumismalaga.com/viewforum.php?f=21" site?
And I think your post proved my point better than mine! What a hassle. Just not worth it. If you want to monger, go somewhere where you are almost guaranteed to get it without any disappointment at all, no wondering if they'll answer, or you having to leave, or bait and switch! Keep safe.Sure, I just didn't get what was so "very risky" about it in the post I replied to. Makes it sound like one was risking a lot more than having wasted a bit of time.
Sure, I just didn't get what was so "very risky" about it in the post I replied to. Makes it sound like one was risking a lot more than having wasted a bit of time.If you book one from the Marbella agency ones, go there and see she is great, pay 300 but after that find out that service is horrible, that's why I said it is risky, 100 euros or something would be fine, but losing 300 or 400 euros would be another thing.
Villa magna just 50 meters up the road from plaza solymar in benalmadena, a yellow house, the quality and service is usually very good, rates 30 min /70-100 and 1 hour /120-150 (think it depends on the season, not too sure really), it is mostly Latina howere sometimes you can find great EEs too. They have ads on pasion.
Down in the marina port, there is american show, usually 20 e entrance although sometimes you go in without paying, I think its about 30 min /70 and 1 hour /120 , I think it is shut now due to covid.
Villa rose close to solymar, a White House, 30 min /70,1 hour /120. Mostly Latina, ads on pasion.
Thanks, Is there a show at American Show Bar like the name suggests or is it just an apartment / Villa like the others you mention where I assume you pick a girl when you enter and then just spend your time with her in a room. I am dreaming / planning for my travels when Covid is gone, I never visited Benalmadena.
Villa magna just 50 meters up the road from plaza solymar in benalmadena. Down in the marina port, there is american show, usually 20 e entrance although sometimes you go in without paying, I think its about 30 min /70 and 1 hour /120 , I think it is shut now due to covid.
Thanks, Is there a show at American Show Bar like the name suggests or is it just an apartment / Villa like the others you mention where I assume you pick a girl when you enter and then just spend your time with her in a room. I am dreaming / planning for my travels when Covid is gone, I never visited Benalmadena.Yes, there is striptease show and different kinds of dancing and stuff, but due to covid its shut now, however after restrictions are lifted, I assume they start the shows and everything. There is also another one gallo oro in benalmadena, very close to the casino, they had very nice shows and stuff too, but I think that club has been sold during the covid era, so I believe it won't open.
There are 2 or 3 other striptease, lapdance bars in the 24 hour square (plaza solymar) too.
Cool, thanks Qazwsx5! We'll see how it looks post-covid! Things looks dark at the moment but I personally think / hope that we will see some tourist areas opening up in spring / summer this year, just like we saw happening in July-Sept. Of 2020, hopefully business / Entertainment can rebound.
Yes, There are 2 or 3 other striptease, lapdance bars in the 24 hour square (plaza solymar) too.
Cool, thanks Qazwsx5! We'll see how it looks post-covid! Things looks dark at the moment but I personally think / hope that we will see some tourist areas opening up in spring / summer this year, just like we saw happening in July-Sept. Of 2020, hopefully business / Entertainment can rebound.There is also a new villa, close to Tivoli, it is called bebesitas, ads on pasion. Some very good ones but I don't know the place as it is very new. Maybe andalus expat knows the place and can help.
Does anyone know if Fuengi port apartment still open? I've seen that the owner has passed away. But what happened to the place?
Does anyone know anything about chanel French girl in benalmadena (pasion)?
TeddyBears
03-29-21, 02:20
Have recently returned home after two weeks in Malaga and Fuengirola, due to the strange times we live in I have been exploring different options online!
My first objective was to search for Sakura a beautiful Spanish / Japanese girl in her early 20's working in Malaga. My meeting with her was magical as my other encounters have been with her. She is not currently advertising, nut she is probably back working first week in April again and then she normally advertises in pasion.com and slumi.com.
She is highly recommended, charges €120 h.
I was reading a lot of old reviews at lumismalaga.com and wanted to see a couple of girls named Paula and Alejandra that apparently was working in a apartment brothel named Fantasias located in Larios shoppingcenter, but they didn't work there currently, the madam of the apartment sent me a few photos of the girls currently working. I went to see Isabella a girl in her mid 30's from Brazil with a banging body and a personality to match it! We really hit it off and I stayed for 2 hours with her three days in a row!! If it wasn't for the fact that she was going to Paris for a month I think she would have been staying with me the whole vacation!! She charges €100 h, search for fantasias at lumismalaga.com.
After the first week the restrictions loosened at the restaurants in Fuengirola until 22:30 so I decided to move there to be nearer my friends that lives and works there. After a couple of visits at Estark92 I decided to try and see Andrea and Nikol who advertises at various sites in Benalmadena. I had read a couple of reviews of Nikol at lumismalaga.com so I felt fairly confident when visiting them in their apartment in Torrequebrada bus as usual when something seems to good to be true, it is!! Andrea has changed her photos since my visit and they are fairly accurate but she is a bit to long and heavy for my taste. Nikol on the other hand her photos has nothing to do with reality! She is thin and her body is not totally terrible, she has enhanced tits but her tits are a bit loose and kind of hangs! But her face feels old and is not attractive in my opinion, I would guess she is close to 40.
If it wasn't for the fact I had taken a kamagra half an hour before going there I would have left their apartment, now I decided to stay half an hour with the both of them, total damage €120 and by the way, their service is not accurate, no owo, no kisses!
https://www.slumi.com/escorts/benalmadena/nikol-masajista-sensual-de-lujo-salidas-24h-id-c67vv
https://www.slumi.com/escorts/benalmadena/fotos-100-real-servicio-vip-exquisita-id-hj7t6
I also wanted to see a massage / escort girl in Fuengirola named Paula since she has a verified reputation and it doesn't lie! She is an massage girl with roots in Philippines and Paraguay, her face is more Paraguay than Asian if you understand me?! For me her face is not very pretty but her body is rock hard her photos are accurate, the girl is muscular! I choose to start the session with 20 minutes of massage and she actually is very good at massaging. Then she asks you if you like kissing and totally attacks you with DFK and her oral without is very skilful. The girl can fuck, believe me! She even took the juice in her mouth. An hour and a half for €150.
She is even at Facebook under the name "Paulaquartzmassages" she usually advertises in various sites but I couldn't find it now!
I had a couple of good weeks in the sun, already miss it to be honest!!
TeddyBears.
Thanks for your trip report, great you got away and enjoyed yourself.
In normal times I would have been in Fuengirola last month so hopefully I can come later in the summer. Sakura sounds great so I will look her up when the time comes.
I tried to view pasion.com from here in Ireland but site is always down. A message on the site says it's under attack but I know the other sites to look at. I have a few regular ladys in Fuengirola I visit and there are still working as we keep in touch.
Stay safe and Happy Easter.
Bogman☺.
TeddyBears.
Thanks for your trip report, great you got away and enjoyed yourself.
In normal times I would have been in Fuengirola last month so hopefully I can come later in the summer. Sakura sounds great so I will look her up when the time comes.
I tried to view pasion.com from here in Ireland but site is always down. A message on the site says it's under attack but I know the other sites to look at. I have a few regular ladys in Fuengirola I visit and there are still working as we keep in touch.
Stay safe and Happy Easter.
Bogman.You have to use VPN, a few months ago Pasion was cyber attacked, and since coming back online it doesn't let you access it from outside of Spain.
You have to use VPN, a few months ago Pasion was cyber attacked, and since coming back online it doesn't let you access it from outside of Spain.Thanks for the heads up. I can view pasion.com now.
Bogman☺.
Have recently returned home after two weeks in Malaga and Fuengirola, due to the strange times we live in I have been exploring different options online!
My first objective was to search for Sakura a beautiful Spanish / Japanese girl in her early 20's working in Malaga. My meeting with her was magical as my other encounters have been with her. She is not currently advertising, nut she is probably back working first week in April again and then she normally advertises in pasion.com and slumi.com.
She is highly recommended, charges 120 h.
I was reading a lot of old reviews at lumismalaga.com and wanted to see a couple of girls named Paula and Alejandra that apparently was working in a apartment brothel named Fantasias located in Larios shoppingcenter, but they didn't work there currently, the madam of the apartment sent me a few photos of the girls currently working. I went to see Isabella a girl in her mid 30's from Brazil with a banging body and a personality to match it! We really hit it off and I stayed for 2 hours with her three days in a row!! If it wasn't for the fact that she was going to Paris for a month I think she would have been staying with me the whole vacation!! She charges 100 h, search for fantasias at lumismalaga.com.Great report, thanks.
Andalus Expat
04-13-21, 18:45
Good to see someone's been able to struggle down to here, anyway. Being trapped on the Coast amid a superfluity of underemployed putas can lose its charm. Tiring, if nothing else. Why I haven't been doing much exploring of new talent, But I was contacted last week by Lindsey, was the encargada at Villla Magna, back of Benalmadena's Plaza Solymar. ('Time Square' to some tourists). Some of you might remember her. Villa Magna looks like regrettably being yet another casualty of Coronavirus. She told me she's opened her own house up on the Riviera del Sol urbanization. Thankfully not as far up the hill as Butterflies, it's the same sort of deal. Monday afternoon I paid her a visit. It's a house on three floors with a comfortably large salon. Assortment of sofas on which you can enjoy your free drink, fraternize with the talent on offer. Normally there should be five but only two were in evidence that early in their day. A tall blonde from the Ukraine & smaller blonde brasilera. This was primarily a social visit. I like Lindsey. She's the friend of an amiga & has visited my apartment with her. So we were sitting around chatting for a while. Nevertheless, I couldn't resist a quick romp with the brasilera. Very enjoyable. And I hope Lindsey makes a success of her Villa Mix. And she'd like to welcome you to it. Prices are 120€/ h 60/1/2 h with a free drink but she says; if you tell her you read ISG & provide your site username, she'll give you a 10% discount. Villa Mix is at Calle Diamente 32 & she'll be advertising in Euroweekly News in due course.
Is there any mobile to contact or web site to look at?
Good to see someone's been able to struggle down to here, anyway. Being trapped on the Coast amid a superfluity of underemployed putas can lose its charm. Tiring, if nothing else. Why I haven't been doing much exploring of new talent, But I was contacted last week by Lindsey, was the encargada at Villla Magna, back of Benalmadena's Plaza Solymar. ('Time Square' to some tourists). Some of you might remember her. Villa Magna looks like regrettably being yet another casualty of Coronavirus. She told me she's opened her own house up on the Riviera del Sol urbanization. Thankfully not as far up the hill as Butterflies, it's the same sort of deal. Monday afternoon I paid her a visit. It's a house on three floors with a comfortably large salon. Assortment of sofas on which you can enjoy your free drink, fraternize with the talent on offer. Normally there should be five but only two were in evidence that early in their day. A tall blonde from the Ukraine & smaller blonde brasilera. This was primarily a social visit. I like Lindsey. She's the friend of an amiga & has visited my apartment with her. So we were sitting around chatting for a while. Nevertheless, I couldn't resist a quick romp with the brasilera. Very enjoyable. And I hope Lindsey makes a success of her Villa Mix. And she'd like to welcome you to it. Prices are 120/ h 60/1/2 h with a free drink but she says; if you tell her you read ISG & provide your site username, she'll give you a 10% discount. Villa Mix is at Calle Diamente 32 & she'll be advertising in Euroweekly News in due course.
Is there any mobile to contact or web site to look at?Don't think there is website, maybe on Pasion you can find the photos and the number.
Good to see someone's been able to struggle down to here, anyway. Being trapped on the Coast amid a superfluity of underemployed putas can lose its charm. Tiring, if nothing else. Why I haven't been doing much exploring of new talent, But I was contacted last week by Lindsey, was the encargada at Villla Magna, back of Benalmadena's Plaza Solymar. ('Time Square' to some tourists). Some of you might remember her. Villa Magna looks like regrettably being yet another casualty of Coronavirus. She told me she's opened her own house up on the Riviera del Sol urbanization. Thankfully not as far up the hill as Butterflies, it's the same sort of deal. Monday afternoon I paid her a visit. It's a house on three floors with a comfortably large salon. Assortment of sofas on which you can enjoy your free drink, fraternize with the talent on offer. Normally there should be five but only two were in evidence that early in their day. A tall blonde from the Ukraine & smaller blonde brasilera. This was primarily a social visit. I like Lindsey. She's the friend of an amiga & has visited my apartment with her. So we were sitting around chatting for a while. Nevertheless, I couldn't resist a quick romp with the brasilera. Very enjoyable. And I hope Lindsey makes a success of her Villa Mix. And she'd like to welcome you to it. Prices are 120/ h 60/1/2 h with a free drink but she says; if you tell her you read ISG & provide your site username, she'll give you a 10% discount. Villa Mix is at Calle Diamente 32 & she'll be advertising in Euroweekly News in due course.Villa magna is still open, and in fact there are more girls working there than a few months ago (pasion ads) . Whether they have customers or not is another thing, and since I haven't been there for a few months I can't tell.
How would you rate the face, body and service of the girls present in the new villa?
Andalus Expat
04-20-21, 18:03
Villa magna is still open, and in fact there are more girls working there than a few months ago (pasion ads) . Whether they have customers or not is another thing, and since I haven't been there for a few months I can't tell.
How would you rate the face, body and service of the girls present in the new villa?The only Passion ads Villa Magna was running today were for xicas to work there. I gather they're renting rooms these days. Several places have tried that tactic. There were a couple of girl-for-client ads 4 days ago. Looking at the ad statistics (Estadísticas. Below the ad. You can learn a lot from them if you understand what they're telling you) they weren't serious ads. 39 autorenews over 3 weeks isn't a girl seriously trying to find clients. 39 in a day would be. There maybe girls there who have rented a room & placing their own ads. Difficult to know.
I'm sorry, but I'm really the wrong person to ask about rating girls. Your metric may be very different to mine. I live here. There are so many beautiful young girls floating around the CDS one gets to be indifferent to them very quickly. So I haven't the slightest interest in renting a trophy girlfriend by the hour. I'm more concerned, are they pleasant company & subsequently, are they fun in bed?
The only Passion ads Villa Magna was running today were for xicas to work there. I gather they're renting rooms these days. Several places have tried that tactic. There were a couple of girl-for-client ads 4 days ago. Looking at the ad statistics (Estadsticas. Below the ad. You can learn a lot from them if you understand what they're telling you) they weren't serious ads. 39 autorenews over 3 weeks isn't a girl seriously trying to find clients. 39 in a day would be. There maybe girls there who have rented a room & placing their own ads. Difficult to know.
I'm sorry, but I'm really the wrong person to ask about rating girls. Your metric may be very different to mine. I live here. There are so many beautiful young girls floating around the CDS one gets to be indifferent to them very quickly. So I haven't the slightest interest in renting a trophy girlfriend by the hour. I'm more concerned, are they pleasant company & subsequently, are they fun in bed?Not too sure how they are doing right now, you may be right. Was there a few months ago and had a great time with a blonde Latin, but the knock on the door is annoying as you know. I know what you mean, you just want good personality and service. But for me looks are very important. So you are right, our metrics are different.
Have you ever tried villa la Rosa? Close to plaza solymar.
JohnFinland
04-23-21, 19:52
Is Chinese place in Calle Asturias open? Haven't seen their adverts in pasion.com only that calle monaguillo place have adverts in pasion. Hoping to visit CDS in June and would like to visit calle Asturias and have some fun.
Is Chinese place in Calle Asturias open? Haven't seen their adverts in pasion.com only that calle monaguillo place have adverts in pasion. Hoping to visit CDS in June and would like to visit calle Asturias and have some fun.Yes that Asian place is still advertising on Pasion. Today for Calle Asturias.
Andalus Expat
04-26-21, 09:23
Yes that Asian place is still advertising on Pasion. Today for Calle Asturias.Unfortunately, advertising on Pasion can be misleading. (When isn't it, some will ask) Ads on Pasion accounts time expire if they're not rerun. The default setting's after 15 days but can be extended to 30 (which a lot of the advertisers are not bright enough to understand- all they know is they don't run an ad for a bit, it gets cancelled) So you get someone like Rocio in Torremolinos, who must have at least a hundred ads on her account, refreshes them in bunches by 'Renueva Gratis' every couple of days. Whether Rocio ever actually works or when I haven't a clue. Again 'Estadísticas' may tell you what's going on. The ad for "FUENGIROLA NUEVAS 2 ORIENTALES GUAPAS" was running an hour ago, looks like it may be Asturias. Calle Monaguillo usually puts the street name in the ads. But that ad wasn't run as a paid-for autorenew through most of last year & the first part of this. It was periodically refreshed via 'Renueva Gratis' & 'Veces listado ' shows interested punters checking the photos. However this is just the one ad & if it is Asturias, they'll have several more. They always did. But going on just this one, it suggests Asturias hasn't been functional for much of that period. Just keeping their ads live. There is a flurry of paid-for autorenews back in February this year. And there have been some running in the past few days. That may indicate they have some girls there & are offering services. Or they may just be testing the water. What they may have been doing in February. Seeing how many punter calls they get. Before getting some girls in. Generally, any girl or apartment seriously looking for clients will be paying for the red 'Auto Renueva' service because, if they don't, their ads will be a couple dozen pages back down the listings & seen only by the extremely persistent.
Hope that helps.
JohnFinland
04-27-21, 19:25
Unfortunately, advertising on Pasion can be misleading. (When isn't it, some will ask) Ads on Pasion accounts time expire if they're not rerun. The default setting's after 15 days but can be extended to 30 (which a lot of the advertisers are not bright enough to understand- all they know is they don't run an ad for a bit, it gets cancelled) So you get someone like Rocio in Torremolinos, who must have at least a hundred ads on her account, refreshes them in bunches by 'Renueva Gratis' every couple of days. Whether Rocio ever actually works or when I haven't a clue. Again 'Estadsticas' may tell you what's going on. The ad for "FUENGIROLA NUEVAS 2 ORIENTALES GUAPAS" was running an hour ago, looks like it may be Asturias. Calle Monaguillo usually puts the street name in the ads. But that ad wasn't run as a paid-for autorenew through most of last year & the first part of this. It was periodically refreshed via 'Renueva Gratis' & 'Veces listado ' shows interested punters checking the photos. However this is just the one ad & if it is Asturias, they'll have several more. They always did. But going on just this one, it suggests Asturias hasn't been functional for much of that period. Just keeping their ads live. There is a flurry of paid-for autorenews back in February this year. And there have been some running in the past few days. That may indicate they have some girls there & are offering services. Or they may just be testing the water. What they may have been doing in February. Seeing how many punter calls they get. Before getting some girls in. Generally, any girl or apartment seriously looking for clients will be paying for the red 'Auto Renueva' service because, if they don't, their ads will be a couple dozen pages back down the listings & seen only by the extremely persistent.
Hope that helps.Thanks, this helped. Checked old posts from this thread and noticed that all Fuengirola China place adverts have same phone number which Calle Asturias place had several years ago. Am I right that Asturias and Monaguillo have same owners. I remember that at least once I have seen same girl in both places during same holiday.
Andalus Expat
04-28-21, 18:10
Thanks, this helped. Checked old posts from this thread and noticed that all Fuengirola China place adverts have same phone number which Calle Asturias place had several years ago. Am I right that Asturias and Monaguillo have same owners. I remember that at least once I have seen same girl in both places during same holiday.That's interesting. I had no reason to suspect there was any connection. Although, to be honest, I've been to either only the once. Out of curiosity more than anything else. If that's true, Monaguillo might be the better option. It's a house not a flat. The rooms are better. Although it would be an improvement if they heated them in winter. One tiny fan heater just when they have a client doesn't really cut it. You could see your breath. But Chinese! What can you expect?
Unfortunately, advertising on Pasion can be misleading. (When isn't it, some will ask) Ads on Pasion accounts time expire if they're not rerun. The default setting's after 15 days but can be extended to 30 (which a lot of the advertisers are not bright enough to understand- all they know is they don't run an ad for a bit, it gets cancelled) So you get someone like Rocio in Torremolinos, who must have at least a hundred ads on her account, refreshes them in bunches by 'Renueva Gratis' every couple of days. Whether Rocio ever actually works or when I haven't a clue. Again 'Estadsticas' may tell you what's going on. The ad for "FUENGIROLA NUEVAS 2 ORIENTALES GUAPAS" was running an hour ago, looks like it may be Asturias. Calle Monaguillo usually puts the street name in the ads. But that ad wasn't run as a paid-for autorenew through most of last year & the first part of this. It was periodically refreshed via 'Renueva Gratis' & 'Veces listado ' shows interested punters checking the photos. However this is just the one ad & if it is Asturias, they'll have several more. They always did. But going on just this one, it suggests Asturias hasn't been functional for much of that period. Just keeping their ads live. There is a flurry of paid-for autorenews back in February this year. And there have been some running in the past few days. That may indicate they have some girls there & are offering services. Or they may just be testing the water. What they may have been doing in February. Seeing how many punter calls they get. Before getting some girls in. Generally, any girl or apartment seriously looking for clients will be paying for the red 'Auto Renueva' service because, if they don't, their ads will be a couple dozen pages back down the listings & seen only by the extremely persistent.
Hope that helps.You are right, but the thing about Pasion is that unless you contact the girl, you never know. Some girls use it a lot, like you say putting many ads and renewing frequently, there are others who just use it once in a while, but if you contact them you see that they are actually working (for example Debbi, she doesn't invest a lot on the ads but does in fact work), the other thing is that some girls do not use Pasion at all because they know Pasion has a reputation of many putting fake photos, so they instead put ads on Slumi and etc.
Can someone give an update on independent scene?
Andalus Expat
05-14-21, 21:25
Can someone give an update on independent scene?Well, for a start, there's an awful lot of girls about. The club scene, for the girls, has pretty well died. When I dropped by Estark, last week, they had 12 rather than 40. And a lot of the villas & apartments went. If they don't have the money coming in they can't pay the outgoings. And girls will not hang around if there's no work coming in for them. So even if they could pay the bills, they lose the girls & thus the clients. It's a vicious circle. People have got this idea there's a lot of money to be made in the sex game. There really isn't. There's a vast oversupply of women wanting to sell pussy. And a vast undersupply of men wanting to pay for it. Competition's fierce. Pretty well everything gets started ends up failing. And the last year has accelerated the process. Girl's earning are less than half of what they were in 2019. And 2019 wasn't a good year. They're all moving around searching for something no longer exists. The churn is very high. And there are a lot more independents because they've no alternative.
But we do need to define independent. Club girls are independent. They don't work for the club. They pay for a room & the client is their client. The club sells a service to the girls & drinks to customers. Villa & apartment girls work for the house. The clients are the house's & the girl receives a percentage of the trick money 50/50 or sometimes 60/40, the 60 to the girl. There are also apartments where the girl rents a room. She doesn't work for the apartment, she's independent. The clients are hers, as is the money.
OK. Some info from around where I am. I haven't been looking much further. Apart from the inconvenience of curfew (which could be ignored locally but made traveling difficult) there's just been too much delightfulness on the doorstep to be worth the hustle.
Some apartments & houses for you. I don't want to breach ISG's posting policies, nor do I want to infringe the privacy of the establishments by publishing exact addresses. Hopefully site Admin will accept the final 3 digits of phone numbers & with the description, you should be able to look through Pasion ads & connect the dots. Ask them for the full address.
Calle Blas de Lezo, Fuengirola. Was the apartment in see / Salvador Rodriguez Navas, until they moved. Sizeable villa. Well furnished. Usually has about 5-6 Latinas early 20's to 30's. Generally presentable. Encargada's Chinese & inclined to do that Chinese thing of ignoring anything you say. You will get the parada whether you ask for a particular girl or not. Usually 100/ h. Extras to be arranged with girl. You may get offered a drink if they remember. The adverts are marginally straight. They do tend to pad the advertising with ads for girls who aren't there but the fotos of the ones who are are genuine. But don't take too much notice of the services said to be offered. OWO + straight sex is standard. Past that, some of the girls may offer extra activities. Ask & nail it down with them at the parada. All in all, worth a visit. Look in ads for numbers ending 566 or 819 or 841'A lot of the ads will have fotos of the girl standing on a staircase. That's in the house. https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/mulatita-brasilena-novedad-centro-544041946.htm.
Calle Matias Lara Larita. Small house in a street off of the Fuengirola Feria Ground carpark. Run by Vanesa who also works. Mexicana, big tits, big arse, small waist. The Latina hourglass. Usually 3 or 4 more girls. See & S American in their 20's. Great place to go. Girls are friendly & willing. Ad fotos are genuine. Don't take too much notice of the text. Same services are claimed for all the girls & they're all 19. OWO & straight sex standard. Unfortunately I've never managed to get past the temptations of Vanesa so I can't say what the others offer in the room. I think an hour's 80 incall. Vanesa usually visits me. Numbers ending 474 or 896 or 400 https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/casa-de-las-munecas-5-chicas-griego-542665065.htm.
Calle Capitan. Small apartment in the centre of Fuengirola. And conveniently 2 minutes from my place. Usually 2 or 3 girls. Sometimes has some very nice xicas. I got woken up at 1 AM the this morning by one of them. New arrival must have seen past Whatsap conversations on the house fone. Made me an offer I couldn't refuse. She'd bring her arse round for me to enjoy for an hour. 90. No out-call charge. No taxi fare. No "extras". Malaga girl about 30. Pretty. Great body. And very hot. Right from the off. And apparently likes girls. We had lezzy pr0 and and on the TV. She wants! Left at 4:30 thoroughly fucked & with half a bottle of whisky sloshing around her insides. Wonder she could walk. Why I like the place. I get frequent flyer discounts. Alessandra, one of the other girls, is often here for dinner. She cooks well. Numbers end 855 or 811 https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/jovencita-me-encanta-la-fiesta-salidas-542733219.htm.
Avenida Acapuco. LOS Boliches. Apartment. Regular turnover of attractive girls. Photos are usually real & services offered in the text available. Never actually visited the apartment. Like pizza, I like women delivered. Prices are around 100 incall. I pay 120 for outcalls plus taxi. Whether that's what everyone else pays, I don't know. Numbers end 127 or 532 or 597 https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/llegue-soy-luna-mulata-atrevida-salidas-546805431.htm.
Calle Sauce. Maisonette Torreblanca. Again not a venue I have visited. But I know Calle Sauce. The house numbering there can be misleading. If you're proposing going there get them to send you a Google location message (ubicacion). I've a feeling this was previously an apartment in in the Las Ramblas complex now relocated. Had a few E. European girls delivered from there & this is the same number. They're advertising a couple now. Incalls are 120/ hour. Bit more expensive than other places but they are quality girls. And they are 'all services'. Meaning fuck their arses if you want to. And can afford the 50 extra. Only number I know ends 818 https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/641545818-rubia-muy-viciosa-546281156.htm.
Villa Mix. Calle Diamante 32, Riviera Del Sol. Mentioned this place before. Villa run by Lindsey, was the encargada at Villa Magna, Benalmadena. Not long opened. The intention is to have 5 girls available through the season. I think Barby the Brasilera (recommended) may be permanent but there'll be the usual turnover of the rest. Free proper drink on arrival. Spotlessly clean. Pleasant hospitality. She knows what she's doing. 100/ hour plus any extra services (pay the girl). Outcalls available. Website will be up in due course. Pasion search "Villa Mix" https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/brasilena-escort-de-lujo-fiestera-546463106.htm.
Butterfly Girls. Riviera Del Sol. Everyone knows this place. Been there for years. Good selection of girls in the season. Think prices are !00/ hour. Advertised in EuroWeekly News. I don't see eye to eye with the encargada over a couple matters but I'd recommend a visit.
Casa Luna. Calle San Pablo 9, Malaga If you like Calle Asturias you'll love this. Big house full of girls. Usually 8 - 10. Half oriental, half latinas. No outstanding beauties but presentable. House & rooms are a bit basic but it is cheap. 80/ hour. And superb service. The girls are friendly & they deliver. Last time I was there I had a couple. Everywhichway in all orifices to a mega climax. But there was still 20 minutes left on the clock & they were determined to get another one out of me. Impossible! But they did! Estrela from Paraguay's the encargada. Say Hello, to her for me. Pasion search "Casa Luna- Malaga".
All the above are 24/7.
Some independents.
Michelle-based LOS Boliches. Blonde Venezolana 35. Pretty. Delightful body. Tits are impressive. Fairly vanilla with her services. OWO + straight sex. But a very nice friendly girl will give you a great time. I believe she's only doing daytime outcalls at the moment but she may be all right for an all-nighter with notice. 120/ hour Number ends 517 so you get the right Michelle. https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/tu-chica-con-cuerpo-de-infarto-545882231.htm.
Nuria -currently Torremolinos but she works in Torre Del Mar regularly. Spanish, skinny tall blonde, 39. If you want kink, this is your girl. The list of the services she offers would fill a page. You think of it, she does it. Number ends 300 24/7 incalls / outcalls https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/nuria-novedad-rubia-versatil-en-tu-zona-546854037.htm.
Liz. Chilian 30. Something. Fuengirola / Cordoba / Cadiz but mostly Fueng. Of all the girls I know probably the most straight up & reliable. Totally professional. She has a list of regular clients as long as your arm & knows how to keep them. Bodywise, stacked. She turns heads in bars. My trophy girlfriend when required. OWO & straight sex. She also does dominance stuff for those with a sub urge. Not sure exactly what she's charging now. She dropped to 80 during the slackest period. Cleverer than the girls who stuck at 100 & didn't eat. Number ends 651 incalls / outcalls 24/7 https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/liz-experta-en-garganta-profunda-a-tope-540739504.htm.
Sabrina. Fuengirola. Colombiana 30. Attractive face & great figure. Nice rack. Tats but not overdone. Speaks English. Good company. OWO & straight sex. Number ends 980 24/7 outcalls / incalls https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/sensual-latina-546707891.htm.
All of these girls I've known for at least a year or two. And I now seem to have found myself an English one. Lucy from Liverpool. 40's Just moved here. She's only offering outcalls at the moment. Until she finds herself a place. But I can report she's extremely good fun. And obviously enjoys her work. Only thing is, I've got so used to Latinas she sounds foreign to me. Currently only advertising on AW in the Spanish section. Or I can put you in touch.
I'm hoping the advert links I've provided stay current long enough to be useful. Unfortunately, with Pasion ads, the links only work whilst the ads are being renewed. And with the advertisers, they often let old ads lapse & write new ones. Many of the apartments do when they get new girls in. It's quicker & easier to create a new ad than edit the old one. The service provider is still there & the fone numbers remain unchanged. But the link breaks.
Hope that lot is of assistance. Maybe we'll see some of you down here soon.
Well, for a start, there's an awful lot of girls about. The club scene, for the girls, has pretty well died. When I dropped by Estark, last week, they had 12 rather than 40. And a lot of the villas & apartments went. If they don't have the money coming in they can't pay the outgoings. And girls will not hang around if there's no work coming in for them. So even if they could pay the bills, they lose the girls & thus the clients. It's a vicious circle. People have got this idea there's a lot of money to be made in the sex game. There really isn't. There's a vast oversupply of women wanting to sell pussy. And a vast undersupply of men wanting to pay for it. Competition's fierce. Pretty well everything gets started ends up failing. And the last year has accelerated the process. Girl's earning are less than half of what they were in 2019. And 2019 wasn't a good year. They're all moving around searching for something no longer exists. The churn is very high. And there are a lot more independents because they've no alternative.
But we do need to define independent. Club girls are independent. They don't work for the club. They pay for a room & the client is their client. The club sells a service to the girls & drinks to customers. Villa & apartment girls work for the house. The clients are the house's & the girl receives a percentage of the trick money 50/50 or sometimes 60/40, the 60 to the girl. There are also apartments where the girl rents a room. She doesn't work for the apartment, she's independent. The clients are hers, as is the money..Thanks very much for the info, very useful.
You are definitely right about CDS economy, CDS has been hit quite hard by this shit, so lets hope that tourists rush back now that the restrictions are being lifted quite fast. The thing is that the girls increase the prices while the men are short of cash, as you have also mentioned the standard rate is higher than what it was before. They must lower their rate, but they do the opposite!
There is money going around in Marbella area, don't think they have been hit hard over there, but from Malaga to Fuengirola the situation is not good.
There are more girls working in Estark now than a few months ago. I don't know how they are doing, but some are coming back from other areas, hoping that this summer is going to be better, there are more than 12 girls over there, about 30 are working ATM, maybe at the time you went there, some were not working.
It seems that LE coq dor is also open again, the lights are on since Thursday.
Lets hope that this summer is back to normal.
You know that summer is here when you see lots of great looking girls on slumi (Marbella) , most of them don't have their faces covered and have videos so you know that there is no bait or switch. I found reviews about some of them and mostly the comments are very positive, so great news, prices are high as expected for that quality but well worth it.
If anyone has tried some of them or has any new info, please share.
SeekingHead
06-06-21, 19:03
90% sure I am going to be kid free for 7 days while in Spain, I'm a single dad so this only happens infrequently. I've been to Benalmadena a few times before with family but never as a single guy. In 2019 I did Barca but with the virus & potential lockdowns plus the fact I have not had a proper vacation in 18 months I just want to go sit in the sand all day. I'm conversationally fluent in Spanish also, so no language barrier.
What are your opinions of Benalmadena for a week?
How are the options for getting girls for outcalls to my hotel or Airbnb?
Any local massage parlors which offer frances natural? For some reason had a hell of a time finding this in Barca last time.
Last? There was a strip club in the marina if I remember correctly.
Thanks all, & I can provide a lot of info on seeking arrangements of if you are in Atlanta Ga. , I have the same handle on the US board.
90% sure I am going to be kid free for 7 days while in Spain, I'm a single dad so this only happens infrequently. I've been to Benalmadena a few times before with family but never as a single guy. In 2019 I did Barca but with the virus & potential lockdowns plus the fact I have not had a proper vacation in 18 months I just want to go sit in the sand all day. I'm conversationally fluent in Spanish also, so no language barrier.
What are your opinions of Benalmadena for a week?
How are the options for getting girls for outcalls to my hotel or Airbnb?
Any local massage parlors which offer frances natural? For some reason had a hell of a time finding this in Barca last time.
Last? There was a strip club in the marina if I remember correctly.
Thanks all, & I can provide a lot of info on seeking arrangements of if you are in Atlanta Ga. , I have the same handle on the US board.You can go to villa magna (just google villa magna benalmadena) it is up the road from plaza solymar. You can go to club estark 92,5 km from benalmadena. Or club selecta.
For outcalls check out pasion.com and slumi. These are independents girls, they will do outcalls.
SeekingHead
06-09-21, 19:13
You can go to villa magna (just google villa magna benalmadena) it is up the road from plaza solymar. You can go to club estark 92,5 km from benalmadena. Or club selecta.
For outcalls check out pasion.com and slumi. These are independents girls, they will do outcalls.Thanks, looks like villa magna is going to be my goto place.
Do you have any recommendations on massage girls or places? I'm looking for a massage + BBBJ.
One day I'll do the massage in the afternoon & then find a good pub for drinks in the evening, then the next day go to villa.
Also any hotel recommendations? Don't want to get denied by hotel security or get a shitty place. Was bait & switched last time in Barca last time by the hotel reviews.
Andalus Expat
06-09-21, 21:47
You can go to villa magna (just google villa magna benalmadena) it is up the road from plaza solymar. You can go to club estark 92,5 km from benalmadena. Or club selecta.
For outcalls check out pasion.com and slumi. These are independents girls, they will do outcalls.Have you actually been to Villa Magna recently? From what I can see of their advertising on Pasion (& Villa Magna never did much advertising on Pasion) it's mainly directed at attracting girls rather than clients. They've been offering rooms to rent. I know the woman who was the encargada there & she's now started her own place at Riviera. (No doubt taking some of the regular clients with her).
Girls don't work in villas & clubs because they like them. (Most don't) They work in them because the establishment brings in more & better clients than they can find on their own. Why, one way or another, they're happy paying part of their earnings to the establishment. The clients stop coming, the girls go.
Now they're in a Catch 22 situation. With no girls the house can't attract clients. And without clients, the girls won't work there. Any business relies on girls for its income is facing the same problem. There's a lot less money about. From what I've heard from the girls, less than half compared with pre-Coronapanic. Many girls have got themselves apartments & found their own clients. There's a lot of villas & clubs have closed & are unlikely to reopen. Whether Villa Magna becomes one of them will depend on how soon there's some tourist money coming into the economy. There's little sign of it at the moment.
On the bright side, there's any number of attractive & willing wenches waiting for phone calls. And there's been a number of new agencies appeared. They won't be hard to find.
Did you mean " club estark 92,5 km from benalmadena"? Or was that a product of this site's unique post editing system? (What it manages to do to the French for 'Golden Male Chicken' -Club at Torrequebrada. Is hilarious.) Estark 92's about 4 km from Benalmadena Marina at Carvajal. The one Cadiz way is probably nearer a hundred.
Have you actually been to Villa Magna recently? From what I can see of their advertising on Pasion (& Villa Magna never did much advertising on Pasion) it's mainly directed at attracting girls rather than clients. They've been offering rooms to rent. I know the woman who was the encargada there & she's now started her own place at Riviera. (No doubt taking some of the regular clients with her).
Girls don't work in villas & clubs because they like them. (Most don't) They work in them because the establishment brings in more & better clients than they can find on their own. Why, one way or another, they're happy paying part of their earnings to the establishment. The clients stop coming, the girls go.
Now they're in a Catch 22 situation. With no girls the house can't attract clients. And without clients, the girls won't work there. Any business relies on girls for its income is facing the same problem. There's a lot less money about. From what I've heard from the girls, less than half compared with pre-Coronapanic. Many girls have got themselves apartments & found their own clients. There's a lot of villas & clubs have closed & are unlikely to reopen. Whether Villa Magna becomes one of them will depend on how soon there's some tourist money coming into the economy. There's little sign of it at the moment.
On the bright side, there's any number of attractive & willing wenches waiting for phone calls. And there's been a number of new agencies appeared. They won't be hard to find.
Did you mean " club estark 92,5 km from benalmadena"? Or was that a product of this site's unique post editing system? (What it manages to do to the French for 'Golden Male Chicken' -Club at Torrequebrada. Is hilarious.) Estark 92's about 4 km from Benalmadena Marina at Carvajal. The one Cadiz way is probably nearer a hundred.I have not been to villa magna since December but on the phone they told me they had 4,5 girls at the moment, but you are right, on pasion they have put out many ads about renting rooms.
Yes, it is so funny that it has changed the golden chicken club to something strange hahaha.
There is definitely a lot less money about than before but I think things start to improve once the shitty restrictions are lifted, at least lets hope so. What do you think about slumi marbella girls? Some of them are highly recommended. Do you use slumi? Have you ever tried them?
Thanks, looks like villa magna is going to be my goto place.
Do you have any recommendations on massage girls or places? I'm looking for a massage + BBBJ.
One day I'll do the massage in the afternoon & then find a good pub for drinks in the evening, then the next day go to villa.
Also any hotel recommendations? Don't want to get denied by hotel security or get a shitty place. Was bait & switched last time in Barca last time by the hotel reviews.For the massage, you can have a look at pasion.com contactos mujer then choose malaga, these are freelancer, they offer everything. There are quite a few in banus (marbella) and also in malaga. But if you are only interested in those in benalmadena, I know there is one close to the marina, it is called tantra nubha (google it, they have a website with info), they also put ads on pasion.
I can't help with hotels. But there are many hotels around, don't think you will have problem with security, all of them are fine I think.
Andalus Expat
06-11-21, 01:31
I have not been to villa magna since December but on the phone they told me they had 4,5 girls at the moment, but you are right, on pasion they have put out many ads about renting rooms.
Yes, it is so funny that it has changed the golden chicken club to something strange hahaha.
There is definitely a lot less money about than before but I think things start to improve once the shitty restrictions are lifted, at least lets hope so. What do you think about slumi marbella girls? Some of them are highly recommended. Do you use slumi? Have you ever tried them?I think they were having trouble keeping girls back in October last year. My friend rang me & asked me if I knew any xicas were looking for a plaza. Not something you'd expect with a well established house. I would imagine Coronapanic's hit Villa Magna particularly hard. A lot of its clientele were tourists. But it's been there for years, so they must own the house & not have a rent bill coming in. Although they won't have benefited from the government support for the hospitality industry. Some of the clubs may have qualified as they're technically hotels. If, of course, the promises turned into actual money. I know people with businesses were promised aid. But they're still waiting nearly a year later. Maybe Villa Mag will get itself back up to speed eventually.
On a peripheral matter, does anyone remember a club down a side turning off of the road Villa Magna's in? Was on the left as one approached it. I was around Plaza Solymar last week & couldn't see any sign of it. (Unless it's now what's called the Detox Centre, which would be appropriate.) Not a place to be mourned. They had a gaggle of Romanian girls used to work the drunks in P. Solymar. Tell them they knew somewhere good to go. Drag them round to the club. When the victim got served at the bar he was presented with a 30€ bill for the girl's drink. This was around 2012.
I certainly know girls who advertise on Slumi. Some of them work Marbella. The ones I know are pretty genuine. The photos are the them & the services advertised are provided. But Slumi does have the advantage of offering a feedback option for the punters. Keeps the girls honest. I've just had a minor row with one of the apartments near me. They send me photos of new girls have arrived. Out of curiosity I checked what Pasion ads they were running. A total of 9 different girls. FFS, it's a 2 bed apartment! They'd be sitting in each other's laps. And I know for certain 3 of the girls aren't working there. One of them was here for dinner & isn't best pleased at her photos being used. And I know which ones don't provide the services are in the ads. It's not the girls, it's the people run the apartment. Why they do this shit, I don't know. They think the punters are as stupid as they are? The biggest thing any apartment has to offer is the clients' confidence in what it's selling. But they have to lie & destroy it. Unfortunately, being economical with the actualité is part of Spanish culture. Try dealing with a property agent! They seem to think it's normal.
Anybody been to Estark in Fuengirola lately?
Is everything back to normal? Or is only the casinopart still Open?
Anybody been to Estark in Fuengirola lately?
Is everything back to normal? Or is only the casinopart still Open?There are about 40,50 girls at estark now, the club part opens at about 12:00 am. Check out the only club report costa del sol page for the recent reports.
I think they were having trouble keeping girls back in October last year. My friend rang me & asked me if I knew any xicas were looking for a plaza. Not something you'd expect with a well established house. I would imagine Coronapanic's hit Villa Magna particularly hard. A lot of its clientele were tourists. But it's been there for years, so they must own the house & not have a rent bill coming in. Although they won't have benefited from the government support for the hospitality industry. Some of the clubs may have qualified as they're technically hotels. If, of course, the promises turned into actual money. I know people with businesses were promised aid. But they're still waiting nearly a year later. Maybe Villa Mag will get itself back up to speed eventually.
On a peripheral matter, does anyone remember a club down a side turning off of the road Villa Magna's in? Was on the left as one approached it. I was around Plaza Solymar last week & couldn't see any sign of it. (Unless it's now what's called the Detox Centre, which would be appropriate.) Not a place to be mourned. They had a gaggle of Romanian girls used to work the drunks in P. Solymar. Tell them they knew somewhere good to go. Drag them round to the club. When the victim got served at the bar he was presented with a 30 bill for the girl's drink. This was around 2012.
I certainly know girls who advertise on Slumi. Some of them work Marbella. The ones I know are pretty genuine. The photos are the them & the services advertised are provided. But Slumi does have the advantage of offering a feedback option for the punters. Keeps the girls honest. I've just had a minor row with one of the apartments near me. They send me photos of new girls have arrived. Out of curiosity I checked what Pasion ads they were running. A total of 9 different girls. FFS, it's a 2 bed apartment! They'd be sitting in each other's laps. And I know for certain 3 of the girls aren't working there. One of them was here for dinner & isn't best pleased at her photos being used. And I know which ones don't provide the services are in the ads. It's not the girls, it's the people run the apartment. Why they do this shit, I don't know. They think the punters are as stupid as they are? The biggest thing any apartment has to offer is the clients' confidence in what it's selling. But they have to lie & destroy it. Unfortunately, being economical with the actualit is part of Spanish culture. Try dealing with a property agent! They seem to think it's normal.There used to be 3 or 4 villas around solymar close to magna. I think all of them have shut since a few years ago, but I am not too sure. I think there is another one close to magna, it is called villa rosa, they were running ads on pasion last summer. Don't see them anymore, don't know if its still open or not.
I checked on pasion.com and this Oriental piso doesn't seem to advertise any more. The only Asian house left seems to be on Calle Monaguillo and a new on on see / Camino de Coin. Had a great time at Asturias in the past and price was reasonable. Is this place still in operation or have they closed?
Andalus Expat
06-21-21, 08:44
I checked on pasion.com and this Oriental piso doesn't seem to advertise any more. The only Asian house left seems to be on Calle Monaguillo and a new on on see / Camino de Coin. Had a great time at Asturias in the past and price was reasonable. Is this place still in operation or have they closed?You can answer your own question. Go look at the advertising statistics on the Pasion ad for the Camino de Coin flat. The account's been open since 2018. It isn't a new operation. Advert autorenews & client interest low through 2020 during lockdown & continuing restrictions, starting to pick up in April of this year. Interestingly, according to their stats, Calle Monguillo are still doing hardly any advertising. If you go back down the thread a month or so, one of the guys here is suggesting Asturias & Monguillo might have been the same people. Putting two & two together might suggest the entire thing's relocated to Camino de Coin. Go round & find out for sure.
In other news, it looks suspiciously like some of what were club girls have got themselves set up in shared apartments for this season. I know a couple who definitely have. There's girls working in urbanisations right along the coast. Capellania, Torreblanca, La Cala / Mijas Costa, Riviara, Elviria, Calahonda. Many more than we've seen in previous seasons. They all have a similar profile. Good lookers, mid-20's, English & other languages speaking. It would certainly make sense. With less money around & earnings down, paying five or six hundred for a room at a club for a week's a big investment. There's any number of holiday flat rentals available cheap. General rates seem to start at 120/ hour. Happy hunting.
I checked on pasion.com and this Oriental piso doesn't seem to advertise any more. The only Asian house left seems to be on Calle Monaguillo and a new on on see / Camino de Coin. Had a great time at Asturias in the past and price was reasonable. Is this place still in operation or have they closed?I think it is still open.
Re Calle Asturias.
The add on Pasion.com has two phone numbers. The number ending 340 used to be Calle Asturias and the other number is for Calle Monaguillo.
JohnFinland
06-21-21, 17:29
Re Calle Asturias.
The add on Pasion.com has two phone numbers. The number ending 340 used to be Calle Asturias and the other number is for Calle Monaguillo.Calle Asturias is open. Has visited there last Saturday. Quality of girls is lower than it used to be when last time visited there.
John Noonefi
06-24-21, 10:22
I'm visiting soon Rincon de Victoria. Any recommendation in there. Any experience from Gozozos Relax. Calle Gladiolos 14, Rincon de Victoria?
Andalus Expat
06-25-21, 09:22
I'm visiting soon Rincon de Victoria. Any recommendation in there. Any experience from Gozozos Relax. Calle Gladiolos 14, Rincon de Victoria?You've come across it from a Google search? I've been meaning to look for it next time I'm in RdV. But I don't have high hopes. The Lumismalaga forum hasn't a single mention of it. Looking on Streetview, Gladiolas is a residential street. Reasonably expensive by the look of the houses. Just not somewhere you'd expect to find a puticlub. Industrial estates more often. Number 14's a house was for sale in 2008, the datestamp on the image. Maybe it is or was a casa de chicas. There is an apartment de chicas at Calle Gladiolos, Las Lugunas. But that's at number 12. Well recommended as well, for the cheaper end of the punting experience.
I'm visiting soon Rincon de Victoria. Any recommendation in there. Any experience from Gozozos Relax. Calle Gladiolos 14, Rincon de Victoria?I have never been. Not too sure if its open or not. But know that it is very hit and miss.
ShinyCrazy
06-26-21, 22:25
So, I'm planning a week long trip to Costa De Sol. Read the last several years worth of posts on ISG.
I'm planning to stay in a hotel in Fuengirola near Estark92. Planning to visit brothels in Malaga (combined with tourism) or nearby casas in Fuengirola during the day (combined with sun-worshipping on the beach) and then visit Estark92 in the evenings. I don't plan to have a car, so I'll either use the commuter train or Uber / taxis.
The 2 best large brothels that I have found in Malaga are:
Mujeres Conclase (24 hours):
https://mujeresconclase.com/en/
El Atico (24 hours):
https://aticosex.wordpress.com/chicas/
Both websites have good descriptions of services and good pictures of the girls.
I read some earlier intel about Fuengirola casas, but the ads on “pasion” are very opaque. It is hard to tell which ads are casas large enough for a small lineup versus a girl (or two) in her (or their) apartment. I would prefer a larger lineup of course.
I scoured the “pasion” website for ads with phone numbers that link to multiple ads. Here is what I found:
617 (101 ads).
537 (66 ads).
649 (54 ads).
193 (36 ads).
841 (10 ads).
474 (2 ads).
Obviously, the phone number ending in 617 is pretty active and the pictures have a stamp entitled "Escorts Fuengirola". This seems to be a large casa. Some of the casas recommended in an earlier post (841 and 474) sounded great but only have a few ads.
Could someone chime in with comments about these specific casas / numbers?
Thanks.
Andalus Expat
06-27-21, 14:40
So, I'm planning a week long trip to Costa De Sol. Read the last several years worth of posts on ISG.
I'm planning to stay in a hotel in Fuengirola near Estark92. Planning to visit brothels in Malaga (combined with tourism) or nearby casas in Fuengirola during the day (combined with sun-worshipping on the beach) and then visit Estark92 in the evenings. I don't plan to have a car, so I'll either use the commuter train or Uber / taxis.
The 2 best large brothels that I have found in Malaga are:
Mujeres Conclase (24 hours):
https://mujeresconclase.com/en/
El Atico (24 hours):..Only been to the Atico the once. In the company of the illustrious Pepe of this board. I think we both agreed it was a waste of time. On the other hand it was off season. November maybe. But the Atico's in Calle Vendeja. In the zone of Malaga amusingly styled "Soho". Which tells you all you need to know. It certainly doesn't have a Wardour Street or Ruby's, anyway. Tourist land. There's a couple of other rather dubious establishments around there.
Of the Fuengirola apartments, *841 in Calle Blas seems to have about 6 or 7 at the moment. I actually know, fairly well, one of the girls who was there last week. I've seen a couple of the others but no experiences of their services. Look presentable enough. As for the other apartments on your list, they'll generally have 3 or 4 for choice. But some of them have different girls on day / night. And, as usual, there's a constant turnover of girls. So telling you what's available today doesn't tell you what's there tomorrow.
I suspect that number ending 617 may be an agency. There's a couple of girls on it also have their own number. And they've been around here for a while. And better quality girls. That usually suggests independent rather than working for a casa.
As for preferring longer lineups, I'm reminded of the late Tony at Fuengirola Port's response to being asked "How many girls have you?" "How many do you need?" There was a good point behind it. If you just want to fuck a body with a pretty face at the top, you'd be better off with the meat rack at Estark. If you're actually looking for a good puta, a house with 6 or 7 or seven girls will run them past you so fast you'll get about 5 seconds to size up each. And by the time you get to 7, you've forgotten numbers 2 through 5. * Smaller places, you'll get more time with each. If you don't fancy any of them, go somewhere else.
*Yeah, I know. It's just the Spanish way of doing it. If they had any sense, they'd put the girls in the salon, let the punter choose from what he can see. But various reasons. If they have a salon it's where the girls have been camping all day. Be a mass of phones, coffee cups & fast food cartons. Spanish clients don't like seeing each other, so they want to run the l / you through as quick as possible. Most of the people run apartments haven't a clue what they're selling. They think they're selling sex on a revolving door principal. Whereas, in fact, they're selling entertainment. The total experience. And getting that right is what brings the customers back.
So, I'm planning a week long trip to Costa De Sol. Read the last several years worth of posts on ISG.
I'm planning to stay in a hotel in Fuengirola near Estark92. Planning to visit brothels in Malaga (combined with tourism) or nearby casas in Fuengirola during the day (combined with sun-worshipping on the beach) and then visit Estark92 in the evenings. I don't plan to have a car, so I'll either use the commuter train or Uber / taxis.
The 2 best large brothels that I have found in Malaga are:
Mujeres Conclase (24 hours):
https://mujeresconclase.com/en/
El Atico (24 hours):
https://aticosex.wordpress.com/chicas/
Both websites have good descriptions of services and good pictures of the girls.
I read some earlier intel about Fuengirola casas, but the ads on pasion are very opaque. It is hard to tell which ads are casas large enough for a small lineup versus a girl (or two) in her (or their) apartment. I would prefer a larger lineup of course.
I scoured the pasion website for ads with phone numbers that link to multiple ads. Here is what I found:
617 (101 ads).
537 (66 ads).
649 (54 ads).
193 (36 ads).
841 (10 ads).
474 (2 ads).
Obviously, the phone number ending in 617 is pretty active and the pictures have a stamp entitled "Escorts Fuengirola". This seems to be a large casa. Some of the casas recommended in an earlier post (841 and 474) sounded great but only have a few ads.
Could someone chime in with comments about these specific casas / numbers?
Thanks.Big brothels in malaga are close to the airport, great scandalo (the quality is great, check out the club section page for costa del sol) and sala divas and etc. The ones you mentioned are casa basically in the city center.
As for the casa in fuengirola, andaluz expat has provided some great info today, and also a few weeks ago, check out his reports.
ShinyCrazy
06-28-21, 03:11
Thanks for the feedback! Especially thanks to Andaluz expat. His original post gave me some good leads to track down. I've been to Scandalos and the girls were good but the pricing was silly high. I'm mainly focusing on a nightly visit to E92. One of the girls at the 841 number looked very appetizing. Won't be there until much later in the summer, but I'll report back! Thanks again!
ShinyCrazy
06-28-21, 22:55
While researching mongering in London, I saw pics of "Fortune" from Diva Escorts many times. Great reviews and beautiful girl:
https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-fortune
Imagine my surprise when I see the exact same pics while researching mongering in Fuengirola:
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/jovencita-latina-recien-llegada-547329512.htm
Since Fortune is still working currently in London, I'm guessing the girl in Fuengirola stole the pics. Not exactly a surprise, but you'd think the girls would realize that we are international travelers!
While researching mongering in London, I saw pics of "Fortune" from Diva Escorts many times. Great reviews and beautiful girl:
https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-fortune
Imagine my surprise when I see the exact same pics while researching mongering in Fuengirola:
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/jovencita-latina-recien-llegada-547329512.htm
Since Fortune is still working currently in London, I'm guessing the girl in Fuengirola stole the pics. Not exactly a surprise, but you'd think the girls would realize that we are international travelers!Unfortunately it is quite common, that's why pasion can't be trusted most of the time, slumi is better, less fake photos.
Andalus Expat
06-30-21, 10:11
Unfortunately it is quite common, that's why pasion can't be trusted most of the time, slumi is better, less fake photos.Regrettably, lying is part of the culture of the country. Try using a property agent or renting a flat here. They're intent on drawing in the customer, providing the promised service is secondary consideration. Look, prossies have always had a tendency to over-market the goods. But here they take the piss. They don't even think they're doing anything wrong because everyone does it. I had another conversation with an apartment, couple days ago. They have my number as a previous client & sent me fotos of 5 girls, trying to drum up some business. Pasion shows them advertising 3 more, one of which I know is working Estepona 40 klics away. The services shown in the ad are just a list of services they put in ads. They bear no relationship to what any particular girl offers. I messaged back that if they're intent on deceiving the clients, why should I have the confidence to use their services? You might as well be talking to your hand. They haven't a clue how to run a business. Customer confidence is the most important thing they have to sell.
It's just something you have to cope with. Why I prefer independents, who work for themselves. The incentives are different. They're interested in creating themselves a regular customer base & keeping it. Even if they're sharing an apartment with other girls, they tend to self police. They don't want a girl giving the address a bad name. My advice would always be, visit anywhere with an open mind. Never have a fantasy in your head about what you're going to find & what you're going to do with her. You're window shopping. Ask the girl herself what services she provides & how much. If it doesn't come up to expectations, walk away. There's another apartment round the corner. Try getting your alternatives lined up before you head off punting. And a tip. If you're contacting a girl's number. Always start by establishing who you are talking with. Ask her her name, don't ask if she's (insert name here).
Hi all,
New here and would like to thank everyone for the great information people have posted. I've been inspired to take a trip to CDS. I like the idea of chilling out in a bar having a couple of beers while scoping out the ladies on offer. So I plan on having a long weekend Thursday-Sunday, getting a hotel close to e92 and visiting the club on the three nights I will be there. Hopefully later this year or maybe beginning of next year (depends on covid situation at the time).
I'm not too picky with looks and it will be my first mongering trip abroad, so I'm sure I'll enjoy the club for the three nights.
But just wondering if experienced members think it's a good idea to visit the club three nights in a row or if I should check out other local options?
Hi all,
New here and would like to thank everyone for the great information people have posted. I've been inspired to take a trip to CDS. I like the idea of chilling out in a bar having a couple of beers while scoping out the ladies on offer. So I plan on having a long weekend Thursday-Sunday, getting a hotel close to e92 and visiting the club on the three nights I will be there. Hopefully later this year or maybe beginning of next year (depends on covid situation at the time).
I'm not too picky with looks and it will be my first mongering trip abroad, so I'm sure I'll enjoy the club for the three nights.
But just wondering if experienced members think it's a good idea to visit the club three nights in a row or if I should check out other local options?As your query is club related please scroll down the Costa del Sol forum to the bottom and you will see that there is a clubs only section. You are more likely to get responses in there as those who frequent that thread are more interested in clubs than other options.
Hi all,
New here and would like to thank everyone for the great information people have posted. I've been inspired to take a trip to CDS. I like the idea of chilling out in a bar having a couple of beers while scoping out the ladies on offer. So I plan on having a long weekend Thursday-Sunday, getting a hotel close to e92 and visiting the club on the three nights I will be there. Hopefully later this year or maybe beginning of next year (depends on covid situation at the time).
I'm not too picky with looks and it will be my first mongering trip abroad, so I'm sure I'll enjoy the club for the three nights.
But just wondering if experienced members think it's a good idea to visit the club three nights in a row or if I should check out other local options?It is a good idea, there are other clubs too, but if you go to e92 and see that you like quite a few of them then you can go there all three nights, that way they may also think that you want to be a regular so give better service too. For more info about clubs check out the club section.
Regrettably, lying is part of the culture of the country. Try using a property agent or renting a flat here. They're intent on drawing in the customer, providing the promised service is secondary consideration. Look, prossies have always had a tendency to over-market the goods. But here they take the piss. They don't even think they're doing anything wrong because everyone does it. I had another conversation with an apartment, couple days ago. They have my number as a previous client & sent me fotos of 5 girls, trying to drum up some business. Pasion shows them advertising 3 more, one of which I know is working Estepona 40 klics away. The services shown in the ad are just a list of services they put in ads. They bear no relationship to what any particular girl offers. I messaged back that if they're intent on deceiving the clients, why should I have the confidence to use their services? You might as well be talking to your hand. They haven't a clue how to run a business. Customer confidence is the most important thing they have to sell.
It's just something you have to cope with. Why I prefer independents, who work for themselves. The incentives are different. They're interested in creating themselves a regular customer base & keeping it. Even if they're sharing an apartment with other girls, they tend to self police. They don't want a girl giving the address a bad name. My advice would always be, visit anywhere with an open mind. Never have a fantasy in your head about what you're going to find & what you're going to do with her. You're window shopping. Ask the girl herself what services she provides & how much. If it doesn't come up to expectations, walk away. There's another apartment round the corner. Try getting your alternatives lined up before you head off punting. And a tip. If you're contacting a girl's number. Always start by establishing who you are talking with. Ask her her name, don't ask if she's (insert name here).True, but the thing is by lying they actually lose customers (the apartment in your case) ,what is the point of sending fake pics when you know that the person is going to find out as soon as you open the door. The best thing in these situations is just to leave as you say. If everyone leaves then they have to start to act in a different way and stop lying. The problem is that many do not leave and they get the money they want so they just keep doing that.
Andalus Expat
07-01-21, 02:55
Unfortunately it is quite common, that's why pasion can't be trusted most of the time, slumi is better, less fake photos.And sometimes it delivers the goods.
Saw this ad:
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/la-chupo-de-muerte-novedad-547983831.htm
She looked different. Intrigued me. So I got in touch with her. Checked services & prices. Thought I might bank her for another night. However the girl I was expecting to visit got hung up in Marbella on a job so decided to give her a try. Name's Siri. Italian from Tuscany. Speaks very good English. Age 40 seems about right. Very slim, nice naturals, sun tanned. Pierced nipples, a few tats. Spectacular tongue piercing. I like exotic kinky women. She was reluctant to do an outcall on a first meeting, so I went round to see her. Calle Huelva in Fuengirola, about 3 minutes from my place. The apartment was familiar. Couple of Colombiana amigas were renting it last year.
Siri's great fun. Up for anything with enthusiasm. Lots of DFK with that pierced tongue. Very affectionate. Took advantage of everything on offer. Chocho, arse deep & hard. Finished in her mouth after a long & superb natural BJ. 10 out of 10 for performance. Maybe an eleven. This one I will definitely see again. Soon. She's open to the idea of another girl so have to see if she hits it off with one of the other xicas. How long she'll be here, I don't know. She's on the circuit. And the money? 80 euros an hour, everything included. I had 2 hours for 180. Have to see what she wants for an all night threesome.
Other girls worth mentioning:
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/abril-scort-de-lujo-bella-e-implicada-547128280.htm Abril. Plumpish Venezolana. Speaks basic english. Pleasant to be with. All services advertised available. 100/ hour.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/altamente-guarra-morbosa-fiesta-a-tope-541969044.htm Recently described to me as the best puta the bloke had been with & he reckons he's racked up a few. She is the consummate professional. Again, all services in the ad are delivered. Known Liz for a couple of years now. Part of the furniture, round here. 100/ hour.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/fiera-indomable-te-dejare-seco-547958529.htm Noelia's back working! Taken a six month rest. Noelia & I go back about 5 years now. She's part of the family. She is, by a long way, the best puta I've ever come across. And one of the best friends I've got here. Paraguaya. Speaks little English but understand a bit more. But believe me it won't be a problem. You won't have the opportunity to do much talking & she'll have her mouth full. She likes serious partying & girls & more girls. How much she's charging clients now, I don't know. Probably 100/ hour.
Andalus Expat
07-01-21, 03:46
True, but the thing is by lying they actually lose customers (the apartment in your case) ,what is the point of sending fake pics when you know that the person is going to find out as soon as you open the door. The best thing in these situations is just to leave as you say. If everyone leaves then they have to start to act in a different way and stop lying. The problem is that many do not leave and they get the money they want so they just keep doing that.The trouble is, it's not actually a bad apartment. The girls are usually very good. It's a nice place. They don't need to do this. It's the encargada places the advertising. She's always done this so she always does it. She thinks all the clients are as stupid as she is. All in all the majority of the apartments are reasonable, even if they do oversell the girls. Most of their clients are Spanish locals & word quickly goes around about the bad ones. They don't last very long. And you need to be realistic. There are no drop dead gorgeous teenage nymphomaniacs selling their arses for 60 euros an hour. If there were, the queue would go round the block. So if the pricing's cheap you'll likely be getting what you paid for.
Hello, do you know Mansion Babylon Marbella? I was there recently, the truth is that the Club is a bit far from the city, but for the party and the escorts it was worth it. They told me that on weekends and Mondays there is usually even more atmosphere and more girls, can someone confirm it? Thanks.
And sometimes it delivers the goods.
Saw this ad:
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/la-chupo-de-muerte-novedad-547983831.htm
She looked different. Intrigued me. So I got in touch with her. Checked services & prices. Thought I might bank her for another night. However the girl I was expecting to visit got hung up in Marbella on a job so decided to give her a try. Name's Siri. Italian from Tuscany. Speaks very good English. Age 40 seems about right. Very slim, nice naturals, sun tanned. Pierced nipples, a few tats. Spectacular tongue piercing. I like exotic kinky women. She was reluctant to do an outcall on a first meeting, so I went round to see her. Calle Huelva in Fuengirola, about 3 minutes from my place. The apartment was familiar. Couple of Colombiana amigas were renting it last year.
Siri's great fun. Up for anything with enthusiasm. Lots of DFK with that pierced tongue. Very affectionate. Took advantage of everything on offer. Chocho, arse deep & hard. Finished in her mouth after a long & superb natural BJ. 10 out of 10 for performance. Maybe an eleven. This one I will definitely see again. Soon. She's open to the idea of another girl so have to see if she hits it off with one of the other xicas. How long she'll be here, I don't know. She's on the circuit. And the money? 80 euros an hour, everything included. I had 2 hours for 180. Have to see what she wants for an all night threesome.
Other girls worth mentioning:
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/abril-scort-de-lujo-bella-e-implicada-547128280.htm Abril. Plumpish Venezolana. Speaks basic english. Pleasant to be with. All services advertised available. 100/ hour.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/altamente-guarra-morbosa-fiesta-a-tope-541969044.htm Recently described to me as the best puta the bloke had been with & he reckons he's racked up a few. She is the consummate professional. Again, all services in the ad are delivered. Known Liz for a couple of years now. Part of the furniture, round here. 100/ hour.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/fiera-indomable-te-dejare-seco-547958529.htm Noelia's back working! Taken a six month rest. Noelia & I go back about 5 years now. She's part of the family. She is, by a long way, the best puta I've ever come across. And one of the best friends I've got here. Paraguaya. Speaks little English but understand a bit more. But believe me it won't be a problem. You won't have the opportunity to do much talking & she'll have her mouth full. She likes serious partying & girls & more girls. How much she's charging clients now, I don't know. Probably 100/ hour.The Italian one is quite interesting, 80 euros an hour is great price, I have heard about noelia a few times, so she must be really good.
The trouble is, it's not actually a bad apartment. The girls are usually very good. It's a nice place. They don't need to do this. It's the encargada places the advertising. She's always done this so she always does it. She thinks all the clients are as stupid as she is. All in all the majority of the apartments are reasonable, even if they do oversell the girls. Most of their clients are Spanish locals & word quickly goes around about the bad ones. They don't last very long. And you need to be realistic. There are no drop dead gorgeous teenage nymphomaniacs selling their arses for 60 euros an hour. If there were, the queue would go round the block. So if the pricing's cheap you'll likely be getting what you paid for.The thing is the villas and apartments are not generally bad if they want to stay in business because as you say most of their clients are locals, so if they give bad service they know that people won't come back unless they are one of those villas that pops up like a mushroom and shuts down after a few months (maybe earn some money by putting fake photos, bad service, expensive etc).
I can not agree more with you on the price thingy, the price tells you many things. You have to be realistic as you say, if the ad says 50 euros an hour you must know that you won't find a great looking girl behind the door (even if she looks nice in the photos you must know they are either fake or photoshoped).
My experience is that if you want great looking girl, high class you have to expect to spend at least 300 euros an hour, there are some very nice ones for 200,250 but the normal rate is 300 upwards.
Hello, do you know Mansion Babylon Marbella? I was there recently, the truth is that the Club is a bit far from the city, but for the party and the escorts it was worth it. They told me that on weekends and Mondays there is usually even more atmosphere and more girls, can someone confirm it? Thanks.Of course it is better on weekends, more girls, more clients. They have an instagram, their number is there, give them a call before heading there, ask how many girls are available and photos just to make sure.
It is a good idea, there are other clubs too, but if you go to e92 and see that you like quite a few of them then you can go there all three nights, that way they may also think that you want to be a regular so give better service too. For more info about clubs check out the club section.Yeah if I find one or two that I like I'll be happy to just spend my time (and cash) with them.
Thanks for pointing out the club section, very helpful thank you.
Andalus Expat
07-03-21, 01:34
The Italian one is quite interesting, 80 euros an hour is great price, I have heard about noelia a few times, so she must be really good.I wouldn't think she's appeal to those peruse the line-up at Estark. But they're also the people who talk about covered blow jobs. She is what she is. But she certainly gives amazing service. She actually came round to see me yesterday afternoon. But I'd hardly poured her a drink when a couple of Brasilian girls showed up unexpected. So I got to listen to the three of them gossiping whilst the clock ran down. Never even got to first base. She had a client booked for 7 o'clock. Oh well, there's always another day.
Noelia? She is.
On your other post regarding prices, I think the break point can be far lower. Simply going up 20 euros to 120 puts you amongst a better class of women. But it's always worth thinking about who they're working for. Casas de chicas, they're on a split. Often 50/50. So out of 120 the girl sees 60. Your 300 girl is likely agency, who take a sizeable kickback for the booking. I try to stick with the true independents who work for themselves. They get all the money (although, of course, they're paying for their workplace & advertising, irrespective of how much they're actually earning) So it's possible to cut deals with them. I also prefer outcalls & don't much like the performance of the girl getting reminder calls from the encargada near the end of bookings or having to check back if we want to extend. Worse than the knock on the door.
Why I really can't be bothered with clubs. By the time you've bought yourself a drink, one for the girl & an hour upstairs, you're heading well north of 200. And you still can't be sure of what you'll get upstairs (The guys on the club board talk about covered BJ's, whatever they are) For the same sort of money you can get a proper puta will give you a drink & go through everything on the menu.
Andalus Expat
07-03-21, 09:54
If you want to find out if a girl's an independent or working for an apartment, run the phone number in the ad through the search facility of the advertising site. An indy may come up with two or three different ads but they're all the same girl. Apartments have "house" phones they use for the ads. Maybe two or three of them. A house phone might produce 4 pages of ads going back a couple of weeks, with the girls changing further back you go. There may be two or three girls currently being advertised on that number. If you want to get sophisticated, look through the ads for any of the current girls on a different number. You're now collecting a database of apartment phone numbers. Stick the lot in your phone's contacts suitably labelled & you're way ahead in the game of puta hunts.
Of course it is better on weekends, more girls, more clients. They have an instagram, their number is there, give them a call before heading there, ask how many girls are available and photos just to make sure.Thank you for the answer, this Saturday I did what you told me I called the phone that I put on Instagram and my surprise is that it was a club in Murcia.
Luckily they explained to me that there is a Babylon Mansion in Murcia and another in Marbella.
I found your website, and I called there were more than 15 girls. The truth is that the experience was very positive, with the best possible ending.
I do not know if you can put links in the forum.
Andalus Expat
07-05-21, 12:03
These 3 adverts on Pasion.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/sexo-con-o-sin-goma-40-547810192.htm
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/sexo-con-o-sin-goma-40-547903839.htm
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/sexo-con-o-sin-goma-40-547952234.htm
In fact there's a lot more of them. 70 odd being published on those 3 accounts. They or ads similar have been running for at least a couple of years. When I saw the first one, it looked like classic bait & switch. All the ads feature super endowed blondes in their mid twenties. Although the photos are trying to give the impression this is one woman, I suspect there's actually at least 3 being used as source material. Since one of the girls is used a lot with a wide range of poses, I'd suspect they've been nicked from the gallery of a puta on a US site. Electrical outlets in a couple of shots looked more like the US flat pin 125 V, than a Euro pattern.
But I can't wok out what the scam is. None of the numbers have ever elicited a response. Either from a conventional phone call or whatsapp. From any number I've used. 3 Spanish, 1 UK & my French mobile number. Some of the ads have been running on paid for autorenews. It's not just somebody periodically refreshing adverts so they don't expire. They're spending money. I've considered it's a phishing expedition for the actual caller numbers. But, then one would expect to have received the next part of the phishing scam on at least one of the numbers.
Anyone replied to any of these ads & got a response? Or got a suggestion what the scam is?
Thank you for the answer, this Saturday I did what you told me I called the phone that I put on Instagram and my surprise is that it was a club in Murcia.
Luckily they explained to me that there is a Babylon Mansion in Murcia and another in Marbella.
I found your website, and I called there were more than 15 girls. The truth is that the experience was very positive, with the best possible ending.
I do not know if you can put links in the forum.Would you mind to mention about the service / price you have experienced?
Hi guys,
I have a question: I met a nice chica here with whom I would like to have sex, but we are both not free and can only do this in her car, which is not so comfortable. Does anyone know if there are also hotels here where you can rent a room by the hour? Proximity of Estepona.
Thanks!
Andalus Expat
07-07-21, 11:58
Hi guys,
I have a question: I met a nice chica here with whom I would like to have sex, but we are both not free and can only do this in her car, which is not so comfortable. Does anyone know if there are also hotels here where you can rent a room by the hour? Proximity of Estepona.There is an establishment off Avenida de Velázquez, Malaga offers this service. There may be more round the city. Estapona, I doubt. There's not going to be the market for it. If you want to drive down to Fuengirola there's pensiones offering to rent rooms at a bit more than 20 euros a day. You're not obliged to sleep there. That's about what you'd be paying for what you're looking for, anyway.
Or how much front has your female got? She a Spanish speaker? Get her to ring an apartment advertising plazas on Pasion, offer them 30 euros to borrow a room for an hour. It's what putas do if working off their patch. There'll be several advertising in the Estepona / Marbella area.
These 3 adverts on Pasion.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/sexo-con-o-sin-goma-40-547810192.htm
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/sexo-con-o-sin-goma-40-547903839.htm
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/sexo-con-o-sin-goma-40-547952234.htm
In fact there's a lot more of them. 70 odd being published on those 3 accounts. They or ads similar have been running for at least a couple of years. When I saw the first one, it looked like classic bait & switch. All the ads feature super endowed blondes in their mid twenties. Although the photos are trying to give the impression this is one woman, I suspect there's actually at least 3 being used as source material. Since one of the girls is used a lot with a wide range of poses, I'd suspect they've been nicked from the gallery of a puta on a US site. Electrical outlets in a couple of shots looked more like the US flat pin 125 V, than a Euro pattern.
But I can't wok out what the scam is. None of the numbers have ever elicited a response. Either from a conventional phone call or whatsapp. From any number I've used. 3 Spanish, 1 UK & my French mobile number. Some of the ads have been running on paid for autorenews. It's not just somebody periodically refreshing adverts so they don't expire. They're spending money. I've considered it's a phishing expedition for the actual caller numbers. But, then one would expect to have received the next part of the phishing scam on at least one of the numbers.
Anyone replied to any of these ads & got a response? Or got a suggestion what the scam is?40 euros. And great photos, well that's def fake photos / stolen. Such a girl would not be charging 40 . I am not sure what the scam is, as you say they are spending money on those ads. Maybe they just save the numbers and send threatening messages after a few weeks asking for money. I have heard that it is quite common now and some people send them money out of fear because they say that they know where you live and going to tell your wife and etc.
Andalus Expat
07-08-21, 09:03
40 euros. And great photos, well that's def fake photos / stolen. Such a girl would not be charging 40 . I am not sure what the scam is, as you say they are spending money on those ads. Maybe they just save the numbers and send threatening messages after a few weeks asking for money. I have heard that it is quite common now and some people send them money out of fear because they say that they know where you live and going to tell your wife and etc.You may be right. Maybe I haven't been targeted because I'm not stupid enough to use photos of the wife & children in my Whatsapp profile* & then go trawling for putas on the internet. Not saying I have either. Do you reckon I should steal some photos of somebody else's?
I've seen the incoming's on girl's phones when there's a language difficulty for them. And how many clients use photos with enough information in them to establish their identity. Please guys. For your own sakes. Think about what you're doing. There's some nasty people out there.
Would you mind to mention about the service / price you have experienced?The truth is that the experience was very positive, I chose the rate of € 120 and enjoyed intercourse, penetration and natural oral sex. I like girls with big breasts and hips, and among the large number of escorts who had chosen Melany, a very fiery and involved Latina.
Her experience with her was fantastic, she was also the one who set the rhythms and that drives me crazy.
I've seen the incoming's on girl's phones when there's a language difficulty for them. And how many clients use photos with enough information in them to establish their identity. Please guys. For your own sakes. Think about what you're doing. There's some nasty people out there.That is crazy. It is best not to use your own personal number even if you are single. You never know who is the other person on the other end.
Andalus Expat
07-15-21, 01:42
I've been looking at adverts for this girl for a while. Maria.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/andaluza-cordobesa-y-muy-completa-547754989.htm
Very impressive body. Thought it would be worth checking her out. Actually I thought the same, couple of weeks back. Got half way through booking an appointment on Whatsapp & the conversation abruptly ended. She stopped replying. Tried again last weekend. I thought I had an outcall booked, but again communications dropped out & a no show. Thought I'd give her one more try tonight. The last communication was 15 minutes before I left, it's a 3 minute cab ride from my place & the cab rank's almost outside my door. Got there dead on the time booked. Messaged to say I was downstairs. A different girl responded & said Maria had gone out, would be back in an hour & a half. Some story about driving a friend to hospital. Sounds about as likely as a sudden snowstorm & it's in the 30's tonight. That's it. I've had enough. For the record, an incall with all services on the menu's 150. Presumably the blue plate service is a hundred. On the other hand she was talking about the full menu delivered to the door was 150 plus taxi, at the weekend. Maybe she makes it up as she goes along. What she's like in the flesh I never found out. Although the photos are pro work, which can be a bad sign. Lurks at Avda Santa Amalia 20, Bloq 8. 1 If you get given that address, think twice.
So with mission aborted on that one, remembered another girl. Sara Colombiana. Another shot in the dark but why not. Messaged her to find where she worked & got Calle Salvador Rodriguez Naves. Which by a strange coincidence I was standing on the corner of. OK for appointment in ten minutes. She looks exactly as she does in the photos. Generous arse, ample naturals. 20's, give or take a year. And sexy fun right from the off. Uncovered BJ with lots of tongue work. Everything on the menu delivered with enthusiasm. No rush to eject the spent victim. Thoroughly enjoyable punt. She says she likes girls, so maybe a threesome outcall for her next time. She wanted 140 for the full menu. Basic service is 100 the hour. I gave her the 150 I'd readied for the other girl. And added a 20 tip for excellent service delivered. Definitely recommended.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/colombiana-ardiente-y-fogosa-toda-tuya-547254704.htm
I've been writing this just after getting home. Maria just messaged, apologising. Still with the hospital story. I'd say she double books with the second as a safety. Common puta trick. Enough is enough & there's enough other putas.
I've been looking at adverts for this girl for a while. Maria.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/andaluza-cordobesa-y-muy-completa-547754989.htm
Very impressive body. Thought it would be worth checking her out. Actually I thought the same, couple of weeks back. Got half way through booking an appointment on Whatsapp & the conversation abruptly ended. She stopped replying. Tried again last weekend. I thought I had an outcall booked, but again communications dropped out & a no show. Thought I'd give her one more try tonight. The last communication was 15 minutes before I left, it's a 3 minute cab ride from my place & the cab rank's almost outside my door. Got there dead on the time booked. Messaged to say I was downstairs. A different girl responded & said Maria had gone out, would be back in an hour & a half. Some story about driving a friend to hospital. Sounds about as likely as a sudden snowstorm & it's in the 30's tonight. That's it. I've had enough. For the record, an incall with all services on the menu's 150. Presumably the blue plate service is a hundred. On the other hand she was talking about the full menu delivered to the door was 150 plus taxi, at the weekend. Maybe she makes it up as she goes along. What she's like in the flesh I never found out. Although the photos are pro work, which can be a bad sign. Lurks at Avda Santa Amalia 20, Bloq 8. 1 If you get given that address, think twice.
So with mission aborted on that one, remembered another girl. Sara Colombiana. Another shot in the dark but why not. Messaged her to find where she worked & got Calle Salvador Rodriguez Naves. Which by a strange coincidence I was standing on the corner of. OK for appointment in ten minutes. She looks exactly as she does in the photos. Generous arse, ample naturals. 20's, give or take a year. And sexy fun right from the off. Uncovered BJ with lots of tongue work. Everything on the menu delivered with enthusiasm. No rush to eject the spent victim. Thoroughly enjoyable punt. She says she likes girls, so maybe a threesome outcall for her next time. She wanted 140 for the full menu. Basic service is 100 the hour. I gave her the 150 I'd readied for the other girl. And added a 20 tip for excellent service delivered. Definitely recommended.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/colombiana-ardiente-y-fogosa-toda-tuya-547254704.htm
I've been writing this just after getting home. Maria just messaged, apologising. Still with the hospital story. I'd say she double books with the second as a safety. Common puta trick. Enough is enough & there's enough other putas.I have heard good things about the first one Maria. But it always seemed too expensive to me (considering the photos are pro work), but what she did to you was not professional at all, I also texted her a few months ago and did not get a reply. So maybe has enough clients.
The second one is not my type but seems interesting.
Does anyone know anything about paula quartz fuengirola (she has a website, she iads herself as a masseuse but gives full service it seems).
TeddyBears
07-25-21, 01:34
I wrote this about her in March. And I can ad that I do recommend her and wouldn't mind seeing her again.
"I also wanted to see a massage / escort girl in Fuengirola named Paula since she has a verified reputation and it doesn't lie! She is an massage girl with roots in Philippines and Paraguay, her face is more Paraguay than Asian if you understand me?! For me her face is not very pretty but her body is rock hard her photos are accurate, the girl is muscular! I choose to start the session with 20 minutes of massage and she actually is very good at massaging. Then she asks you if you like kissing and totally attacks you with DFK and her oral without is very skillful. The girl can fuck, believe me! She even took the juice in her mouth. An hour and a half for €150.
Happy mongering!
I wrote this about her in March. And I can ad that I do recommend her and wouldn't mind seeing her again.
"I also wanted to see a massage / escort girl in Fuengirola named Paula since she has a verified reputation and it doesn't lie! She is an massage girl with roots in Philippines and Paraguay, her face is more Paraguay than Asian if you understand me?! For me her face is not very pretty but her body is rock hard her photos are accurate, the girl is muscular! I choose to start the session with 20 minutes of massage and she actually is very good at massaging. Then she asks you if you like kissing and totally attacks you with DFK and her oral without is very skillful. The girl can fuck, believe me! She even took the juice in her mouth. An hour and a half for 150.
Happy mongering!Thanks for the reply.
Is her face bad? I mean how would you rate her face? Because it is important for me, don't want to go there and see something that I do not like. Thank you very much.
TeddyBears
07-25-21, 23:42
For me her face is not beautiful, but we all have different taste. But she is far from ugly!
My meeting with her was very good and as I wrote and I would happily see her again because her service level is very good.
Don't really know what more to write about her really. She is young and tight!! Go and see her, I can almost guarantee that you will have a good time, worst case scenario you get a good massage and a superb blowjob!
For me her face is not beautiful, but we all have different taste. But she is far from ugly!
My meeting with her was very good and as I wrote and I would happily see her again because her service level is very good.
Don't really know what more to write about her really. She is young and tight!! Go and see her, I can almost guarantee that you will have a good time, worst case scenario you get a good massage and a superb blowjob!Thanks for the reply.
Also it seems that villa magna and golden cock are actively looking for girls, as AE has said, they possibly do not have enough girls to open the club, so maybe that is why they are closed on some nights.
Andalus Expat
07-27-21, 13:34
Thanks for the reply.
Also it seems that villa magna and golden cock are actively looking for girls, as AE has said, they possibly do not have enough girls to open the club, so maybe that is why they are closed on some nights.Indeed, Qazwsx5. You're looking at Catch22 in action. And it can be a very hard cycle to break. The truth is; there's probably less than 50% of the money available to the sex industry now that there was in '19. And '19 was at the bottom of a slope that's been declining for some years. Most of these places got themselves established in the fat years some time back. There just isn't enough spending around to support all of them. How can you operate a club a few days a week? The girls want sustained regular dependable work. They won't hang around.
It's why, on the club board, I express doubts about Scandalos. I'd say there's a lot of wishful thinking going on by people who know fuck all about the industry. Yes, we've had a bit of a revival of the tourism this summer. But much of it's Spanish from the inland cities taking the holidays they missed last year. Heavy on families. Their spending patterns are different. Restaurants & bars cater for Spanish tastes are busy. Those that cater for foreigners often empty. Visitors, like the guys post on this & the club board are drawn to the "named" establishments because they don't know anything else. Or find it difficult operating off the nursery slopes of the clubs. The Spanish don't have that problem. It was obvious what was happening when I was in Estark last week. Young Spanish guys enjoying the eye candy for the price of a beer. If they're determined to get laid they can be in an apartment in 10 minutes, getting the job done for half the price.
The reality's these are businesses that require a certain turnover throughout the year to remain viable. Not just a few busy weekend nights at the peak of the holiday season.
Something to add. The people who run these places are mostly clueless about business. They got into this when anybody could make money & never learnt. There's a thing called optimal pricing. We'll do it with drinks. You can almost ignore the cost of the drink itself. To the club it's trivial. You price your drinks at 20 euros you sell your customer one drink & make 20. You price your drinks at 10 & your customer buys three drinks. He spends 30 you take 30. He is happy, you take more money. You also get more customers because you're the bar sells cheap drinks. Because most of the costs of running an establishment are fixed costs. Lighting, aircon, staff wages etc etc don't rise with turnover. You make a lot more profit. This is how supermarkets make billions out of 2% mark-ups. Don't bother about trying to explain this to the people run these places. To them, if they get less customers & sell less drinks, a greater proportion of their operating costs must be put on each drink. They raise prices. It's a feedback loop to going bust.
It's why, on the club board, I express doubts about Scandalos. I'd say there's a lot of wishful thinking going on by people who know fuck all about the industry. There's a thing called optimal pricing.Who are the "people who know fuck all"? Me? The Cane? Shoo bee? Teddy Bears? All very experienced mongers? I've been back through the club board, I don't see "a lot of wishful thinking". I see comments, mainly mine, relaying what is actually happening when I am there, and the comments of club owners who I know and speak to. How are you more of an authority on the industry than people who have been running these clubs for many years? You are entitled to your view but the past 18 months has proven that your views, at least so far, are completely wrong. You predicted nothing but gloom. That the clubs would all go out of business, E92 wouldn't survive, Scandalos would not survive etc. I responded to say I did not agree, that in all probability the oldest profession in the world would survive, as it always has, and that these big clubs have made enough money to ride this out. I based those comments not on hope or "wishful thinking" but on actual conversations with club owners. As previously stated, you have a personal interest. You run a villa / website so I presume you don't want clubs to survive. They are not only surviving but they are doing well. E92 has spent money refurbishing. How can it do that if it is about to close? On one of the slowest nights of the week in any club, a Sunday, you still saw 45 girls in E92 recently. That means there would have been 60 or 70 on the Friday or Saturday. That is back to the good old days. The quality of the girls in Scandalos right now is better than it has been for the last 10 years. I know. I have been going there that long!
All this doom and gloom about clubs ending is, respectfully, nonsense, or is it your own wishful thinking?
You remark on girls "moving on". It happens in every single club. But there are also many who do not move on. I rattled off last week "regulars" in E92 - Ina, Alicia, Bianca, Monika, Monica, Beatrice, Nicole, Maria, Marissa, Kelly. They have all been working there at least 3 years. They haven't moved on anywhere. I doubt they remain if they are making zero money as you suggest, yet pay 75 e per day to live and / or work there. In Scandalos, Norena, Anna, Denisa, Julia, Johanna, probably more I could think of if I spent 10 minutes on it. All been there 3+ years. Haven't moved on. In every club there will be those who travel through. They don't leave because the club is going to close or there is zero work. They are either not good looking enough to attract paying punters in that competitive environment or they don't like the set up, or the area, or they think the club is too cliquey and the girls not welcoming. Ask the morass of girls who swish through 100+ FKKs in Germany and are constantly on the road. They will tell you why they move on. It might be that the regular girls have a grip on the regular punters. But you almost give the impression that the clubs will be abandoned by the girls. You were saying that during the height of the pandemic. It is, again, without foundation. The girls have not given up on the clubs at all. They won't all run to apartments or villas to ply their trade.
Optimal pricing is not considered viable in Spain. It is something wrong with their cultural attitude to economics. I have relayed many times the Marbella Club golf analogy. Post credit crunch moving a round from 60 euros to 140 or 160. Only 4 people on the course at those prices. When I asked the pro why they didn't have a promotion of 45 euros a round and they'the have 100 people on the course he looked at me as if I was a madman. Their mentality is that if money is down you put up prices to recover your losses. It is a shame. Optimal pricing policy is also known as perfect price discrimination, which means that a company segments the market into distinct customer groups and charges each group exactly what it is willing to pay. The optimal price and volume refer to the selling price and volume at which a company maximizes its profits. https://smallbusiness.chron.com/price-elasticity-optimal-pricing-policy-36020.html This is not an accepted principle in most Spanish industries. Restaurants do the same. When the curfews were imposed and they had to close earlier a good friend (Spanish) who runs a successful restaurant outside Estepona put his prices up "to make back what I lose when I have to close early". Inside 10 days his customer figures dwindled. I begged him to reduce his prices to lower than they were before he increased them. He agreed to try this for 3 nights provided I ate at the restaurant all three nights with 3 friends! I could tell he had no faith at all it would work. With the help of a billboard outside promoting the new "low price curfew offers" his restaurant was packed on those three nights and on the last night my friends and I ate for free as a thank you. The curfew eased, his prices went back to normal. I left Spain and another curfew was imposed to an even earlier time. I think 6 pm. One of my three friends called me to say "Juan increased his prices up again". He hadn't learned anything. I'm afraid the Spanish mentality to economics is not in tandem with established pricing principles / price discrimination.
As I posted in the clubs forum, I have tried to persuade the owners at E92 to change the lady drinks policy to 15 euros instead of the now 30 price. It was formerly 20. My efforts were in vain. I told them that in future, instead of paying the club 30 for a girls drink, when I want a girl to have a drink with me I will slip her 20 euros. She goes to the bar and buys her drink which costs her 10 if she buys it. Cost to me 20. Cost to the girl 10. Money in club till 10 only instead of the 15 they take out of the 30. One of the two owners says he would sack a girl if he saw this. I ask him how he will know if we go play roulette and I give her money to play? If she then chooses to play some (or not) and drink some. How can they tell. "Most guys are not so smart" he laughingly responded. They just don't get it and they are not going to. So I've given up trying. In fairness. Their decision to increase to 30 was a demonstration of price discrimination. Maxing out on what they believe the customer WILL pay. As the owner said to me - "we know guys pay 50 for drinks at Scanadalos and Glass Palace in Estepona". So having considered what the market will stand. They adjusted. Still doesn't cancel out the overall turnover generation by increased sales from lower index price, but they will never go to that. It is not about maximising profit. In Spain, be it clubs, restaurants, golf courses or whatever. It is about charging what they believe the customers will pay. Even if it means fewer will do so, and less overall profit. If it was done deliberately to improve the quality of clientele I would totally understand that. But it is not.
I really wouldn't have too many doubts about Scandalos. Trust me, it is thriving. They hiked the prices for the rooms considerably as a test and to mine and everyone else's dismay, it did not turn the tourists away. It changed the dynamic so that the paying audience is now predominantly wealthy Moroccan guys, Asian guys making a lot of cash on Poligono Guadalhorce, and it has driven the previously cash conscious Spanish punters away. It actually has improved their clientele. To some extent they consider they can do this because they consider they have a monopoly. It is a reasonable economic consideration. They have (amazingly) realised they need not worry about allocative efficiency. Monopolies can increase price above the marginal cost of production and are allocatively inefficient. This is because monopolies have market power and can increase price to reduce consumer surplus. Truth is there is no real viable option (of quality) for those who like to choose from a larger line up, in Malaga. Sala Divas hardly compares, Glass Palace across the road (formerly Latidos) never took off, so they can exploit their monopoly. Exactly the same happens in Berlin. Unlike in Frankfurt where there are 5 big FKKs, keeping prices down, Artemis is the only FKK in Berlin with the result that it is significantly the most expensive FKK in Germany.
So you really need not have doubts about Scandalos. It is perfectly located close the airport, away from residential areas, even for Spanish guys. Their car isn't getting spotted near some brothel because it is miles away from anywhere and passing traffic doesn't really exist. Scandalos is making a small fortune. It will have its quiet (Sunday) nights but for the most part, it is flying. For me, Malaga needs another viable option. If someone opens a decent club close to Scandalos, with good looking girls, giving them a slightly higher portion of the cake and treating them well, then, and only then, will Scandalos have a need to reconsider its policies and worry about its profitability.
If these big clubs can cope with closures, limitations, restrictions of the type in the last 18 months, and they have done and are doing well again, you can be sure they are going to be with us for a long time. And that, my friend, is a million miles away from "wishful thinking" and is based upon logic, customer intelligence, owner information, and fairly basic economics. Hopefully none of this was from someone who knows "fuck all".
AlbanCeray
07-29-21, 15:08
Hi guys,
I have a question: I met a nice chica here with whom I would like to have sex, but we are both not free and can only do this in her car, which is not so comfortable. Does anyone know if there are also hotels here where you can rent a room by the hour? Proximity of Estepona.
Thanks!Maybe a bit late for your request but I tried a few months ago El themple love hotel in Malaga city center where you can rent lovely rooms for a few hours. I would assume the place still exists.
AlbanCeray
07-29-21, 15:39
Hello, everyone,
I post rarely but I would like to thank the good reviews I have seen here on Velázquez 24 brothel.
Tried it this week in two different occasions and I had a blast.
Club is very neat, about 15 girls working here on a normal basis, with some changes every month more or less.
First I had an encounter with a Russian woman called Katia (she said age 32 but I would say personally 36). Looked like a MILF Version of Mia Wallace from pulp fiction movie with the fake dark hair but not with the bitchy attitude. I say the opposite, very GFE, not time pressuring, a lot of DFK and for the rest did a fantastic job (great natural oral, great fuck, great talk). She is not usually working here as she is residing in Barcelona.
Then Lizz, also working as an independent in Fuengirola but she told me she mixes with working in clubs in the region. She is from Chile I think, very firm body and tight ass, did a great striptease at first and then really good work on the rest, a girl with a lot of the energy, you don't need to do much, again very GFE attitude. Too bad that with an ass like this she didn't accept anal. It's not my thing but if you like she does bondage SM stuff too.
But I won't complain about a thing here, with both girls, we went over time without any problem.
Paid 120 eur per hour for each girl so It seems they increased their prices recently but again no complaints to give.
After these reviews, I have a question now, I am in Torremolinos and saw an ad for this former pornstar called Alexa Nasha: https://www.slumi.com/escorts/benalmadena/autentica-estrella-porno-espa%C3%B1ola-una-bomba-id-2k8xs.
Any recent reviews for her? Never tried the pornstar experience and am curious now.
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Hello, everyone,
I post rarely but I would like to thank the good reviews I have seen here on Velzquez 24 brothel.
Tried it this week in two different occasions and I had a blast.
Club is very neat, about 15 girls working here on a normal basis, with some changes every month more or less.
First I had an encounter with a Russian woman called Katia (she said age 32 but I would say personally 36). Looked like a MILF Version of Mia Wallace from pulp fiction movie with the fake dark hair but not with the bitchy attitude. I say the opposite, very GFE, not time pressuring, a lot of DFK and for the rest did a fantastic job (great natural oral, great fuck, great talk). She is not usually working here as she is residing in Barcelona.
Then Lizz, also working as an independent in Fuengirola but she told me she mixes with working in clubs in the region. She is from Chile I think, very firm body and tight ass, did a great striptease at first and then really good work on the rest, a girl with a lot of the energy, you don't need to do much, again very GFE attitude. Too bad that with an ass like this she didn't accept anal. It's not my thing but if you like she does bondage SM stuff too.
But I won't complain about a thing here, with both girls, we went over time without any problem.
Paid 120 eur per hour for each girl so It seems they increased their prices recently but again no complaints to give.
After these reviews, I have a question now, I am in Torremolinos and saw an ad for this former pornstar called Alexa Nasha: https://www.slumi.com/escorts/benalmadena/autentica-estrella-porno-espa%C3%B1ola-una-bomba-id-2k8xs.
Any recent reviews for her? Never tried the pornstar experience and am curious now.She gives very good service, does not do anal tho I think but everything else is on the menu. Just it may be that in the videos she looks better than in person.
Andaluz Expert V PFI in a massive Willy wanging exercise in front of about 6 followers at most?
You two have (PFI and AE have been doing this for the last? 18 months!
Both of you obviously appear to me at least, to be. Desperately trying to demonstrate your own machismo and faltering egos on a forum where who actually gives a fuck.
Alpha male stuff.
Give actually gives a fook.
There is no pride to be had between you guys.
Paying for sex is low. That's why you come here for validation.
Shouting who is best about it?
Jesus?
Get a grip you will you both.Jajajaja it's cruel!
I have been following this forum for a few years now but only last year decided to sign up and post reviews etc. Without a doubt contributions from PFI and AE have been so useful to people reading the page, so that's that.
Now they disagree on some issues and IMHO they both are right to some extent. There is definitely less money around as andaluzexpat says so that affects many businesses, it is not just that some clubs and villas go out of business but also many private girls because if good looking ones lower their price then no one goes to the cheap ones. Now I definitely do not think that clubs like scandalo and estark are going out of business, the worst has passed now and they are still open but some smaller ones with ugly ones go out of business (hearing another person wants to buy selecta and start from scratch).
You are right about the Spanish increase the prices when demand is lower, it is just how they think it should be (some of them think by lowering the price you send a wrong message of lowering quality) .
Scandalo is expensive and looks less busy but I have been told that people who go there now actually spend money unlike old times when place was full but most of them were there having a beer and nothing else, so by increasing prices they have stopped young guys without money coming in (so less problem) , they say it is scandalos new policy (dunno if the manager has changed or not) and there are reports that some great looking girls from scandalo have gone to estark now because scandalo does not want to keep girls for more than a month (no matter how beautiful they are) they want to change the girls often to keep the rich regular clients.
That is why estark is very busy now, but many people who would not pay 230 euros in scandalo pay 80 in estark, so both are winning.
Jajajaja it's cruel!Shame admin deleted his post. I thought it was funny!
Willy wanging is entirely new to me! Hey let's look at it differently. AE is an expert at some aspects of this. But his views on clubs are somewhat amiss. No worries. The guy posts a lot of useful stuff for punters so hats off to him. Hope Jimmy 1 or Jummy 1 whatever (is happy with that. Live and let live!
Andalus Expat
08-02-21, 01:03
Scandalo seems to be owned by Imperativa. SL If you can interpret European company balance sheets, their '20 annual accounts will be published in the near future. They should encompass at least the first months of Covid lockdowns & restrictions. The fuller story will have to wait for the '21 figures. I'd be more interested in them than the opinions of a couple of managers expressed to a punter. What did you expect them to say? Rather than fly down for the odd visit, I live & operate here. And I'm well aware of the damage the past year & a bit has done to businesses. And is still being done. The current tourist season is nothing like back to normal & the leisure industry's 15% of the local economy. So there's a lot less money being fed into the rest of our economy. It's like a slow motion car crash. Businesses don't fail immediately. It can take a year or two. On the plus side there's a bit of a mini boom in foreign buyers of properties. So that's some inflow. But you'd have to look at the net rather than the gross because a lot of that money will be discharging existing loans or going to out of province sellers & not necessarily staying on the CDS.
PayForIt, I wouldn't regard someone who confesses himself he can't operate off of the nursery slopes of the puticlubs & FKKs as an experienced monger. It's a very small slice of the sport. I'd have more respect for Teddy Bears who hacks it without difficulty. The other guys, don't think I've met. The expertise required for a club is to be able to read the adverts on the carretara or remember the words "Taxista! Llevame a un puticlub, por favor". That's the point of them.
"when I want a girl to have a drink with me I will slip her 20 euros. She goes to the bar and buys her drink which costs her 10 if she buys it. Cost to me 20. Cost to the girl 10. Money in club till 10 only instead of the 15 they take out of the 30. One of the two owners says he would sack a girl if he saw this."
How would he sack her? She doesn't work for the club. She's a paying guest in the hotel. You have the transaction the wrong way round. The drink is the girl's way of extracting money from the mugs. The money the club takes is for providing that service to her, enables the transaction. It's all part of the illusion that is a puticlub. Guys generally don't go forking out 15 euros just because they're asked for it. No, I don't suppose he likes being cut out of the middle. Not much he can do about it. He's not going to want to lose her room rent & the money made on drinks she does accept. And everyone does it. I usually give them a ten to shut them up. Sends the signal "No soy un tonto."
I have no personal interest in the villa at all. Apart from wanting it to succeed because the girl running it's a friend & she's put a lot into it. I've built her a website & organized some promotional stuff. The only thing I get out of it is I don't pay the house side of the trick rate. But I get that at a couple of other places as well. Suits them if they're not busy. The girl gets money so they don't lose her. And it doesn't cost them anything, apart from not having her hanging around moaning about not earning. Likewise the website's free to users. Girls & readers. It's a hobby. Keeps me from getting bored. Anything's better than golf. I'm certainly not stupid enough to see this game as a way of making money. 90% of places fail within 6 months of opening. There's a supply & demand mismatch & it doesn't favour the supplier. Got a whole lot worse in the last year. And you're right about the Latin attitude to business. Try & introduce proper business techniques & the people you're working with would fight you every inch of the way. Not worth the hustle. There's all sorts of other business ventures I could make proper money in, if I was minded. Couple I do.
Anyway, enough about economics. But I hope it's useful to those punting down here to understand what's going on. There really are some splendid opportunities. Not so much in the initial prices. As I mentioned in a previous post, girls really don't like dropping those. But if you give them the idea that you might be back for more they'll try very hard to keep you as a client. Service can be delightful. Second time round, more so if you treat them well. But if they weren't first time you won't be going back, will you?
Rather than fly down for the odd visit, I live & operate here. And I'm well aware of the damage the past year & a bit has done to businesses. And is still being done.
PayForIt, I wouldn't regard someone who confesses himself he can't operate off of the nursery slopes of the puticlubs & FKKs as an experienced monger. It's a very small slice of the sport. I'd have more respect for Teddy Bears who hacks it without difficulty.
"when I want a girl to have a drink with me I will slip her 20 euros. She goes to the bar and buys her drink which costs her 10 if she buys it. Cost to me 20. Cost to the girl 10. Money in club till 10 only instead of the 15 they take out of the 30. One of the two owners says he would sack a girl if he saw this."
How would he sack her? She doesn't work for the club. She's a paying guest in the hotel. You have the transaction the wrong way round. The drink is the girl's way of extracting money from the mugs.
But I hope it's useful to those punting down here to understand what's going on. There really are some splendid opportunities.A couple of points in response to your reply. I am in Spain 6 months of the year normally. Business and travel restrictions have prevented that this year though I’m still likely to make it over 5 months in 2021. So I don't live there. But I'm there enough to know what is going on and I agree that there has been (and is continues to be) damage to businesses. But the big clubs are not going out of business or anywhere near it. I don’t just rely on what managers say - I trust what I actually see - Scandalos and E92 bouncing with punters several nights per week. I also trust what some of the girls I know say.
The owner can “sack” a girl in the sense that s/he can tell her she is no longer free to enter the club / work in the bar / use the rooms / pay for a room. It happens. The drink is extra income for the club and for the girl. I'm not in agreement about it only being girls' way of extracting money from mugs. It is nice to get into a bit of party mode and buying a few drinks for girls who have been short of work in the past 12 months is no bad thing. I'm sure they are delighted to receive your 10 euros each time! I don’t give money to girls I don’t want hassling me - I politely but firmly tell them I am not interested.
I don't only monger in clubs BTW. As Qaz can confirm, I am seeing a regular ex-92 girl outside of the club. I have several regulars outside of clubs. I also like the erotic massage places and have reported on many in Malaga and Puerto Banus over the years in this very forum. I will occasionally frequent the villas but don't like the entry then immediate requirement to select modus. If you consider clubs “nursery slopes” you must think escorting is a black run! IMHO its the opposite! Oh for sure you run far more risk of bait and switch escorting (so more dangerous). As someone who has been mongering for over 30 years all over the world (not just on CDS) I believe I would be considered "experienced" but if you consider me inexperienced you are entitled to your opinion. But you rather express that you are an undoubted authority on mongering on the CDS when in fact your actual knowledge of the club scene appears limited or restricted to an odd visit, or out of date. It is partly why there is a benefit in having a clubs only blog so that punters who like the club scene best get to report on it. I am not aware of you posting a single positive review on there!
I'm not sure punters do really understand what is going on or what the "splendid opportunities" are. But I openly invite you to share those splendid opportunities for the benefit of everyone who reads this forum. You recently published a long list of possible venues. I have absolutely no doubt many found it invaluable. I think if you post a list of the splendid opportunities from your experiences it will be equally well received.
As Haitek rightly observed, before his post was deleted for being argumentative, possibly due to the tone or vocabulary, there is little point in you and I sparring in this forum. I don't say you are not not experienced. You clearly are. I don't accuse you, and would not do so, of "knowing fuck all" (as you did).
So let's get back to focusing on what these forums are actually supposed to be about: the imparting of really useful information for the benefit of all mongers. Whether you know more, or less than me or anyone else is frankly totally irrelevant! And I agree with Haitek that members of these forums are not logging in to read silly spats. They want information on good places to go, great girls to see, good experiences of great service, bad experiences and who to avoid. So by all means do share the splendid opportunities and I do not doubt that you will know what they are from your clearly extensive knowledge of the mongering scene on the CDS. I will be as interested to read those experiences and will personally be delighted to scrap a debate on when all the puticlubs will close or not. Let's just see shall we. Meanwhile - let's get back to the true purpose of the forums so that guys are reading about what they really want information on.
A couple of points in response to your reply. I am in Spain 6 months of the year normally. Business and travel restrictions have prevented that this year though Im still likely to make it over 5 months in 2021. So I don't live there. But I'm there enough to know what is going on and I agree that there has been (and is continues to be) damage to businesses. But the big clubs are not going out of business or anywhere near it. I dont just rely on what managers say - I trust what I actually see - Scandalos and E92 bouncing with punters several nights per week. I also trust what some of the girls I know say.
The owner can sack a girl in the sense that s/he can tell her she is no longer free to enter the club / work in the bar / use the rooms / pay for a room. It happens. The drink is extra income for the club and for the girl. I'm not in agreement about it only being girls' way of extracting money from mugs. It is nice to get into a bit of party mode and buying a few drinks for girls who have been short of work in the past 12 months is no bad thing. I'm sure they are delighted to receive your 10 euros each time! I dont give money to girls I dont want hassling me - I politely but firmly tell them I am not interested.
I don't only monger in clubs BTW. As Qaz can confirm, I am seeing a regular ex-92 girl outside of the club. I have several regulars outside of clubs. I also like the erotic massage places and have reported on many in Malaga and Puerto Banus over the years in this very forum. I will occasionally frequent the villas but don't like the entry then immediate requirement to select modus. If you consider clubs nursery slopes you must think escorting is a black run! IMHO its the opposite! Oh for sure you run far more risk of bait and switch escorting (so more dangerous). As someone who has been mongering for over 30 years all over the world (not just on CDS) I believe I would be considered "experienced" but if you consider me inexperienced you are entitled to your opinion. But you rather express that you are an undoubted authority on mongering on the CDS when in fact your actual knowledge of the club scene appears limited or restricted to an odd visit, or out of date. It is partly why there is a benefit in having a clubs only blog so that punters who like the club scene best get to report on it. I am not aware of you posting a single positive review on there!
I'm not sure punters do really understand what is going on or what the "splendid opportunities" are. But I openly invite you to share those splendid opportunities for the benefit of everyone who reads this forum. You recently published a long list of possible venues. I have absolutely no doubt many found it invaluable. I think if you post a list of the splendid opportunities from your experiences it will be equally well received.
As Haitek rightly observed, before his post was deleted for being argumentative, possibly due to the tone or vocabulary, there is little point in you and I sparring in this forum. I don't say you are not not experienced. You clearly are. I don't accuse you, and would not do so, of "knowing fuck all" (as you did).
So let's get back to focusing on what these forums are actually supposed to be about: the imparting of really useful information for the benefit of all mongers. Whether you know more, or less than me or anyone else is frankly totally irrelevant! And I agree with Haitek that members of these forums are not logging in to read silly spats. They want information on good places to go, great girls to see, good experiences of great service, bad experiences and who to avoid. So by all means do share the splendid opportunities and I do not doubt that you will know what they are from your clearly extensive knowledge of the mongering scene on the CDS. I will be as interested to read those experiences and will personally be delighted to scrap a debate on when all the puticlubs will close or not. Let's just see shall we. Meanwhile - let's get back to the true purpose of the forums so that guys are reading about what they really want information on.It's Jummy1 who posted the message which was deleted by admin.
It's Jummy1 who posted the message which was deleted by admin.Apologies. You are quite right.
Scandalo seems to be owned by Imperativa. SL If you can interpret European company balance sheets, their '20 annual accounts will be published in the near future. They should encompass at least the first months of Covid lockdowns & restrictions. Yes, that is right, this company owns about 5 other venues in spain (all of them expensive) it is their strategy to go for rich clients, the situation is bad but they are too big to fall (at least for the foreseeable future) they also possibly own the property so do not have many bills coming in.
UPDATE Marbella:
Lots of independent girls are now in the discos and beach clubs in marbella, just make eye contact and they approach you, asking price is about 300 an hour but quality is real good. If you want to have a good night out and then have fun, just go to one of the famous clubs over there.
Estark:
Lots of girls working (50-60) , at night very busy on weekends (not good since the good looking ones are nearly always upstairs), best days to visit I think are Wednesdays and Thursdays.
Golden cock:
It is open non stop for the last 7 - 10 days. Not many cars in the parking, but seems that at least there are some girls working there.
Can someone give an update on some new independent girls and villas? Slumi marbella is also full of 9's. Please share if you have tried some of them.
I don't only monger in clubs BTW. As Qaz can confirm, I am seeing a regular ex-92 girl outside of the club. I have several regulars outside of clubs. I also like the erotic massage places and have reported on many in Malaga and Puerto Banus over the years in this very forum..I have seen your posts on massage places, are they really worth it? Is everything included or you just go there for massage? Can you recommend the best one on the CDS that you have visited?
Thanks.
Quick question if I may. Do you currently need to wear face masks in Scandalos or Estark?
Thinking about heading to CDS but hate them.
I have seen your posts on massage places, are they really worth it? Is everything included or you just go there for massage? Can you recommend the best one on the CDS that you have visited?
Thanks.Hi, so my favourite is https://tantracorporalcenter.com. Not the cheapest but great looking ladies. Used to be an incredible duo of Valeria (blonde) and Nura (Spanish) but both gone now. Not been since before pandemic. Facilities are fabulous. Apartment 19 D in Plaza de la Merced. Discreet though you have to walk to a restaurant to get to the front door. But if you press the buzzer when your time of appointment is there they just open with no questions. Have never had a bad experience in here. Also never had FS despite requests!
In Banus, https://www.happyrelaxtime.com/ is excellent. Easy parking by the BMW or Porsche garage. Bit villa like operation where you arrive, get shown into a room, the beauty parade takes place. Normally about 7 or 8 girls and you have to choose one there and then. Not what I like to do, and not as good as sitting in a club lounge, chatting then picking based upon a bit of chemistry, but it is a reasonable alternative. Most of the girls will do FS for an extra 100. But this makes this an expensive alternative to clubs. If you have already paid €150 for the erotic massage and now being asked 100 more for FS, it is a 250/ hour punt. That is worse than the price in Scandalos where you had 50 girls to choose from! Nice facilities underground.
Another option in Banus is https://www.facebook.com/BanusZenMassage/. You can have a perfectly "normal" massage here without any extras. But if you just turn up they will show you two price lists. With the erotic list separate. Minimum €120/ hour. Not FS. Just HJ and previous requests for more were rejected. Told only HJ available. Think it depends on the girls though.
In answer to "is it worth it?" I'm afraid that depends on how you feel / what you are willing to spend. On occasions when I don't want to hit a club, or don't want to drink, or am tired and want an early night but fancy fun, this is a reasonable alternative for me. And it always does include a massage not just the erotic bit. But if you just want sex my guess is you would either go to a villa or wait for the clubs to open, unless you know some escorts who are not bait and switch who you trust. The latter being a lot cheaper. I am not a villa fan normally because I have been to some where 6 very ugly girls are trotted out and then having to make your excuses to leave means they know you thought they were all unattractive and you get some feisty comments before leaving. At least in a massage place you can say you just want a normal massage with no sex and pay a much lower price and enjoy the massage! I'm sure there are other options on massage. There are two Chinese operated ones second line of P Banus. Tried both and both awful! But would be good to hear from others who have had better experiences at other places along the coast.
Hi, so my favourite is https://tantracorporalcenter.com. Not the cheapest but great looking ladies. Used to be an incredible duo of Valeria (blonde) and Nura (Spanish) but both gone now. Not been since before pandemic. Facilities are fabulous. Apartment 19 D in Plaza de la Merced. Discreet though you have to walk to a restaurant to get to the front door. But if you press the buzzer when your time of appointment is there they just open with no questions. Have never had a bad experience in here. Also never had FS despite requests!
In Banus, https://www.happyrelaxtime.com/ is excellent. Easy parking by the BMW or Porsche garage. Bit villa like operation where you arrive, get shown into a room, the beauty parade takes place. Normally about 7 or 8 girls and you have to choose one there and then. Not what I like to do, and not as good as sitting in a club lounge, chatting then picking based upon a bit of chemistry, but it is a reasonable alternative. Most of the girls will do FS for an extra 100. But this makes this an expensive alternative to clubs. If you have already paid 150 for the erotic massage and now being asked 100 more for FS, it is a 250/ hour punt. That is worse than the price in Scandalos where you had 50 girls to choose from! Nice facilities underground.
Another option in Banus is https://www.facebook.com/BanusZenMassage/. You can have a perfectly "normal" massage here without any extras. But if you just turn up they will show you two price lists. With the erotic list separate. Minimum 120/ hour. Not FS. Just HJ and previous requests for more were rejected. Told only HJ available. Think it depends on the girls though.
In answer to "is it worth it?" I'm afraid that depends on how you feel / what you are willing to spend. On occasions when I don't want to hit a club, or don't want to drink, or am tired and want an early night but fancy fun, this is a reasonable alternative for me. And it always does include a massage not just the erotic bit. But if you just want sex my guess is you would either go to a villa or wait for the clubs to open, unless you know some escorts who are not bait and switch who you trust. The latter being a lot cheaper. I am not a villa fan normally because I have been to some where 6 very ugly girls are trotted out and then having to make your excuses to leave means they know you thought they were all unattractive and you get some feisty comments before leaving. At least in a massage place you can say you just want a normal massage with no sex and pay a much lower price and enjoy the massage! I'm sure there are other options on massage. There are two Chinese operated ones second line of P Banus. Tried both and both awful! But would be good to hear from others who have had better experiences at other places along the coast.Thanks for great info.
I like a good erotic massage and then full service, because that is the way it should be, you want full service after an erotic massage (for me the point of erotic massage is to enjoy the sex much more) , it seems that it is a hit and miss in these places (depends on the girl etc) and as you righty say it gets very expensive in that one place in marbella (250 and I suppose that is whole thing in an hour).
I have heard good things about paula in mijas. Now that teddybear also recommends her, that's worth the try, because she gives full service.
Andalus Expat
08-04-21, 16:35
A couple of points in response to your reply. I am in Spain 6 months of the year normally. Business and travel restrictions have prevented that this year though Im still likely to make it over 5 months in 2021. So I don't live there. But I'm there enough to know what is going on and I agree that there has been (and is continues to be) damage to businesses. But the big clubs are not going out of business or anywhere near it. I dont just rely on what managers say - I trust what I actually see - Scandalos and E92 bouncing with punters several nights per week. I also trust what some of the girls I know say.
The owner can sack a girl in the sense that s/he can tell her she is no longer free to enter the club / work in the bar / use the rooms / pay for a room. It happens. The drink is extra income for the club and for the girl. I'm not in agreement about it only being girls' way of extracting money from mugs. It is nice to get into a bit of party mode and buying a few drinks for girls who have been short of work in the past 12 months is no bad thing. I'm sure they are delighted to receive your 10 euros each time! I dont give money to girls I dont want hassling me - I politely but firmly tell them I am not interested. My experience of clubs is really from the time I was doing a lot of travelling around Spain. I had a home up on the French / Belgian border, convenient for the UK, & a house in SW France I was refurbishing. The Pyrennees were visible from the top of the hill & crossing into Spain a couple of hour's drive. Ended up renting a place at Sagunto as a staging point. Later a house in the mountains south of Granada & eventually here. So there was a period of a lot of long distance regular commuting. Either north via Madrid, Burgos, Biarritz or the Med coast to Perpingan. Occasionally Zaragoza, Huesca for Toulouse. Don't know how many clubs I've seen in all. Spot the neon from the highway, drop in break the journey. I prefer the smaller one's, not the meat racks get talked about on the club board. Friendlier. Less hustling. Closer to the traditional Spanish brothel. (There's one on the A92 Granda / Almeria's like something out of the Wild West. Including unwelcome patrons exiting horizontally airborne through the front door. The woman runs it wields a mean baseball bat) Yes, I know E92 has its long term girls. Knew a few of them outside the club. The names don't mean much to me because I'm familiar with real names not work names. Maybe some are still there. I rarely visit clubs now because I have no reason to. I don't pay girls for their company. Only sex. I have a social life. It's hard to think of anything more tedious than being on the receiving end of a club girl's sales patter. FKK will always mean Freikorperkultur to me & my interest in watching middle aged Germans playing tennis naked is marginal. My Germany was the Western one & West Berlin & a great playground it was. I can monger quite successfully in UK, France, Belgium, Holland, Switzerland, Portugal & Romania if the mood takes me. I'd like to try Russia. My sole experience of massage places was the result of trying to get alongside a rather tasty Colombiana masajista. Successfully. She was the girlfriend for a while & still close friend. I have had all the massages I will ever need. That said, I did run one for a couple of years in the Los Boliches villa. Profitably. Got the pricing right.
Prossies have been part of the furniture since I was a wet-behind-the-ears teenager living in an Earls Court bedsit & hanging round West End coffee bars. The final London address was Queensway & a couple of Thai girls had a flat downstairs. Used to come up & sunbathe on the roof terrace. I like prossies. They're fun. Also the first go-to anywhere for useful information not found in the guidebooks. They're networked in & know everything worth knowing. The game may be the oldest profession but it's also the oldest form of unemployment. There always have been & always will be far more women wanting to rent the assets they're sitting on than there are punters wanting to pay for them. There's a few woman make a successful living at it. Most don't. For the reason they got into it in the first place. They're lazy, unreliable, not very bright, lying, unpostables who couldn't hold down a proper job if the wanted to.
I'd certainly like to post more information on here, help guys connect with girls. For the benefit to the girls, if nothing else. Problem being, it would need to be useful information. This site is not a particularly good place to do this. For a start it's not in real time. Moderation puts the posts appearing considerable time after they're uploaded. Plus the lag before they're read. Then there's the moderation policy forbids the posting of the girls' advertised phone numbers. So there's only linking to Pasion ads, which by their nature are ephemeral. That's against a situation where there's far more girls trying to work here than there's ever been & a lot less money going around. They come, they stay a few days, they go try & find somewhere better. The apartments keep changing. The list I posted a couple of months back was sound at the time. Avenida Acapulco seems to have gone. At least none of their numbers are live & I haven't heard of anyone working there. They may have reopened somewhere else with different numbers. There was the number I called yesterday, trying to get in touch with a girl. The one who answered said she'd never heard of her & wherever she was wasn't in an apartment in Camino de Coin. The forum message service would be quicker. But the current board users seem to be reluctant to cough up the trivial membership fee enables it. I have a circle of acquaintances down here & we share up-to-date information. If someone wants to contact me via the website number they're welcome. But please do so if you're actually here. Not like some idiot in Ireland, at 4 AM, regarding a possible holiday in October. The fuck-off you will receive will be profound. The best I can do here is to try & point people in the right direction for getting a successful punt & the pitfalls to avoid.
Qazwsx5 "this company owns about 5 other venues in Spain (all of them expensive)".
That's interesting. The only other Imperativa. SL interest I could see was a possible branch in Madrid. Although that could just be a nameplate at the accountants. 4 m turnover (the only such figure I've been able to find) would be about what I'd expect a place like Scandalos / Malaga to be moving & that's nowhere near what one would expect from a total of six sites. Are you saying Imperativa's a subsidiary of a head group? That could break both ways, of course. Lack of diversity in a business isn't necessarily a good thing. They may own the property, but it depends with whose money? The cap's 2.5 m (if that means anything). Although it's about what would have been required to set up a place like that; But companies don't usually fund the asset themselves.
Quick question if I may. Do you currently need to wear face masks in Scandalos or Estark?
Thinking about heading to CDS but hate them.No requirement for masks in either club.
My experience of clubs is really from the time I was doing a lot of travelling around Spain. I had a home up on the French / Belgian border, convenient for the UK, & a house in SW France I was refurbishing. The Pyrennees were visible from the top of the hill & crossing into Spain a couple of hour's drive. Ended up renting a place at Sagunto as a staging point. Later a house in the mountains south of Granada & eventually here. So there was a period of a lot of long distance regular commuting. Either north via Madrid, Burgos, Biarritz or the Med coast to Perpingan. Occasionally Zaragoza, Huesca for Toulouse. Don't know how many clubs I've seen in all. Spot the neon from the highway, drop in break the journey. I prefer the smaller one's, not the meat racks get talked about on the club board. Friendlier. Less hustling. Closer to the traditional Spanish brothel. (There's one on the A92 Granda / Almeria's like something out of the Wild West. Including unwelcome patrons exiting horizontally airborne through the front door. The woman runs it wields a mean baseball bat) Yes, I know E92 has its long term girls. Knew a few of them outside the club. The names don't mean much to me because I'm familiar with real names not work names. Maybe some are still there. I rarely visit clubs now because I have no reason to. I don't pay girls for their company. Only sex. I have a social life. It's hard to think of anything more tedious than being on the receiving end of a club girl's sales patter. FKK will always mean Freikorperkultur to me & my interest in watching middle aged Germans playing tennis naked is marginal. My Germany was the Western one & West Berlin & a great playground it was. I can monger quite successfully in UK, France, Belgium, Holland, Switzerland, Portugal & Romania if the mood takes me. I'd like to try Russia. My sole experience of massage places was the result of trying to get alongside a rather tasty Colombiana masajista. Successfully. She was the girlfriend for a while & still close friend. I have had all the massages I will ever need. That said, I did run one for a couple of years in the Los Boliches villa. Profitably. Got the pricing right.
Prossies have been part of the furniture since I was a wet-behind-the-ears teenager living in an Earls Court bedsit & hanging round West End coffee bars. The final London address was Queensway & a couple of Thai girls had a flat downstairs. Used to come up & sunbathe on the roof terrace. I like prossies. They're fun. Also the first go-to anywhere for useful information not found in the guidebooks. They're networked in & know everything worth knowing. The game may be the oldest profession but it's also the oldest form of unemployment. There always have been & always will be far more women wanting to rent the assets they're sitting on than there are punters wanting to pay for them. There's a few woman make a successful living at it. Most don't. For the reason they got into it in the first place. They're lazy, unreliable, not very bright, lying, unpostables who couldn't hold down a proper job if the wanted to.
I'd certainly like to post more information on here, help guys connect with girls. For the benefit to the girls, if nothing else. Problem being, it would need to be useful information. This site is not a particularly good place to do this. For a start it's not in real time. Moderation puts the posts appearing considerable time after they're uploaded. Plus the lag before they're read. Then there's the moderation policy forbids the posting of the girls' advertised phone numbers. So there's only linking to Pasion ads, which by their nature are ephemeral. That's against a situation where there's far more girls trying to work here than there's ever been & a lot less money going around. They come, they stay a few days, they go try & find somewhere better. The apartments keep changing. The list I posted a couple of months back was sound at the time. Avenida Acapulco seems to have gone. At least none of their numbers are live & I haven't heard of anyone working there. They may have reopened somewhere else with different numbers. There was the number I called yesterday, trying to get in touch with a girl. The one who answered said she'd never heard of her & wherever she was wasn't in an apartment in Camino de Coin. The forum message service would be quicker. But the current board users seem to be reluctant to cough up the trivial membership fee enables it. I have a circle of acquaintances down here & we share up-to-date information. If someone wants to contact me via the website number they're welcome. But please do so if you're actually here. Not like some idiot in Ireland, at 4 AM, regarding a possible holiday in October. The fuck-off you will receive will be profound. The best I can do here is to try & point people in the right direction for getting a successful punt & the pitfalls to avoid.
Qazwsx5 "this company owns about 5 other venues in Spain (all of them expensive)".
That's interesting. The only other Imperativa. SL interest I could see was a possible branch in Madrid. Although that could just be a nameplate at the accountants. 4 m turnover (the only such figure I've been able to find) would be about what I'd expect a place like Scandalos / Malaga to be moving & that's nowhere near what one would expect from a total of six sites. Are you saying Imperativa's a subsidiary of a head group? That could break both ways, of course. Lack of diversity in a business isn't necessarily a good thing. They may own the property, but it depends with whose money? The cap's 2.5 m (if that means anything). Although it's about what would have been required to set up a place like that; But companies don't usually fund the asset themselves.We have to wait and see how it all ends up. The situation was very bad in 2020, it has slowly picked up a bit in the summer, lets hope 2022 will be better.
Do you have any suggestions about picking up freelancers in marbella clubs? Which are the best ones?
Thanks.
Andalus Expat
08-11-21, 20:26
We have to wait and see how it all ends up. The situation was very bad in 2020, it has slowly picked up a bit in the summer, lets hope 2022 will be better.
Do you have any suggestions about picking up freelancers in marbella clubs? Which are the best ones?
Thanks.Navy Bar at Puerto Banus was always a good one. So was La Sala but I don't know if the disco side ever reopened.
As for freelancers, they come in two flavours. The fully professional. Can be top quality. Can be damned expensive. Sky's the limit, really. You can be looking at girl is hoping to latch on the yacht set & be expecting couple grand a day. No half hour, 50 euro quickies, with them. The other sort's the foreign girls here who shouldn't be. No residency etc. Nobody will touch them, work wise. Clubs, apartments, villas. Fines for having one of those found on the premises would be eye-watering. For the same reason, finding themselves an apartment to work in independent's problematic. If they have the money to get one. There's a lot of them float around sofa surfing in friend's flats, maybe hooking up with a guy for a while, if they can snag one. You can bump into them in any of the discos or busy bars. Normally sus them by being apparently unattached to a male & some friendly signals if they catch your eye. Sometimes found in pairs. I've always regarded them as a sport. A clash of intentions. You want to get into her knickers. She wants to get into your wallet. I make sure, if she needs feeding, it's at a restaurant of a mate where she'll get what she's given, not what she ordered. And keep her away from retailing, especially the expensive type. I wouldn't go back anywhere with one. Could be walking into anything. Stick to my own turf & make sure there's nothing stealable accessible to enquiring hands. And I let her see cash, not plastic, to avoid expensive ideas. One modest wad for show & the rest securely tucked away. It's a battle of wits, really. Some become very obviously poison, very quickly. Some turn out to be decent girls, down on their luck, making their way best they can. Two or three hundred could see you right for the night. Especially now with money so tight. I had a rather tasty Venezolana came like this a couple years back, stayed around for while. Would have been nice to keep her. Cheap enough to run. But it's buying into a lot of problems & responsibilities. Think of being stopped by the police on the way home in the car, one night.
2022 better? For someone coming down here with a pocket full of money to spend, yes. As long as we're not back in restrictions & lockdowns. For Spain, I doubt it. The shit's left the fan but is still airborne.
Andalus Expat
08-12-21, 15:04
Do you have any suggestions about picking up freelancers in marbella clubs? A word of caution about what can result from these sorts of encounters in a public place. Think very carefully what you're doing. If they're willing to go back to your hotel with you, all you may risk is a bit of opportune pilfering. If the suggestion is you go to her place, you don't even know it exists. You may be headed for a secluded corner & a couple of her accomplices. You were targeted when you walked into the club / bar as a promising prospect, foreign, with money & this is payoff time. This happens a lot more than people think because few victims report such encounters to the police or even admit them to friends. A danger signal is the girl making fone calls or Whatsappery after you've agreed your agenda or along the way. Another is how long it's taken between first contact & departure. A girl you've bought a couple of drinks & been socialising with for a while is more likely to be genuine. Pressure to be away with her 5 minutes after meeting should get the alarm bells ringing. A team doing this can hit half a dozen venues in the course of an evening, so time's money.
A bit more down market but more of the same. The coloured girls who accost you by Fuengirola Port, Plaza Solymar in Benalmadena & various other locations along the coast are not necessarily prossies. You'll find when you're in some dark corner with a condom on your dick & your trousers round your ankles they're pickpockets. If her "friend" accompanied you on your excursion you can guarantee it. There's also Romanians pull the same stunt. Although if you're drunk or stupid enough to fall for the scam there's probably little point warning you.
A word of caution about what can result from these sorts of encounters in a public place. Think very carefully what you're doing. If they're willing to go back to your hotel with you, all you may risk is a bit of opportune pilfering. If the suggestion is you go to her place, you don't even know it exists. You may be headed for a secluded corner & a couple of her accomplices. You were targeted when you walked into the club / bar as a promising prospect, foreign, with money & this is payoff time. This happens a lot more than people think because few victims report such encounters to the police or even admit them to friends. A danger signal is the girl making fone calls or Whatsappery after you've agreed your agenda or along the way. Another is how long it's taken between first contact & departure. A girl you've bought a couple of drinks & been socialising with for a while is more likely to be genuine. Pressure to be away with her 5 minutes after meeting should get the alarm bells ringing. A team doing this can hit half a dozen venues in the course of an evening, so time's money.
A bit more down market but more of the same. The coloured girls who accost you by Fuengirola Port, Plaza Solymar in Benalmadena & various other locations along the coast are not necessarily prossies. You'll find when you're in some dark corner with a condom on your dick & your trousers round your ankles they're pickpockets. If her "friend" accompanied you on your excursion you can guarantee it. There's also Romanians pull the same stunt. Although if you're drunk or stupid enough to fall for the scam there's probably little point warning you.Thanks very much for the info. Thats the reason I always have doubts picking up freelancers in bars and etc. I like the game and having a few drinks at the bar but then when I want to get to the main thing I do not want to take them back to my place and then I am afraid to go to their place, because you never know what to expect there. The street thing is not my thing but you are right you have to really drunk to stupid to fall into that trap but then again many people do actually fall so.
I like the high class ones in expensive bars (the disco part of la sala, downstairs is still for sale) but the problem is the place to take them afterwards.
I am also considering having a threesome (never had one) can experienced members of the forum tell me how it is really like? Is it really as fun as it seems to be. I know it is easier for the girls because they going to do half the work each but how is it like for you. Do girls in clubs also do it (I mean the lesbian show and stuff too). Any experiences and suggestions are appreciated.
Andalus Expat
08-14-21, 16:50
I am also considering having a threesome (never had one) can experienced members of the forum tell me how it is really like? Is it really as fun as it seems to be. I know it is easier for the girls because they going to do half the work each but how is it like for you. Do girls in clubs also do it (I mean the lesbian show and stuff too). Any experiences and suggestions are appreciated.It depends on what sort of experience you are after. The real thing or theatre? I do know girls who would thoroughly enjoy a booking like this. They like girl / girl interaction. They get off on each other. Just be prepared to be a spectator at times. And you'll need a lot more than an hour. There's girls I do this with regularly who very sympatico (sympatica?) Generally we go 3-4 hours or all night. OK, I'm not running up bills of 150 euros a head an hour. Half of the reason we're doing it is because they want to. So we have an arrangement. But they are putas. They won't work for nothing. (or mostly) And they tend to like some stimulants to enhance the proceedings & their consumption can be prestigious. So bills for those can be hefty for an all-night. That said, I've memories will keep me warm on winter nights.
There's been times when I've had a girl here, likes this sort of thing & we haven't been able to locate a pal. So we've gone through the ads with her doing the phoning & serious grilling. Mixed results. Couple of girls have been enormous fun & are now part of the "family". Other's have been just going through the motions. Unsatisfying for my girl, because she's on (or more exactly not on) the receiving end. And there was virtually a cat fight one night because my girl thought the other was taking the piss & took it personally.
As for renting a duo. You're really renting theatre as far as the girl / girl interaction is concerned. Why would it be anything else? Try matching two girls you don't know who don't work with each other? I wouldn't even bother. And bear in mind that all putas try to control their clients. With two you're outnumbered. You're just as likely to end up with two girls taking turns with you while the other plays around on Whatsapp. Or being pressured into an early dump & them taking the attitude you've had what you paid for, now fuck off. Club girls are notorious for that. Whatever their fanboyz say. Little incentive not to do so. If you're a tourist, they're never going to see you again.
Andalus Expat
08-14-21, 17:34
In one of the Calle Santa Ana 1 blocks. AKA Sofia.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/follo-con-ganas-quieres-probarme-50-546747809.htm
Numbers ending 107 or 716 in either name for search.
Probably not what eye-candy enthusiasts are looking for but competent puta all the same. Paraguaya. Early forties, small naturals, what you see in the ads. Excellent uncovered oral work, a lengthy & offered excursion up her arse & a CIM finish after some more excellent oral. Sucked out the last drops. !00 euros for the hour, no extras paid for. Except the 50 contributed for an extra half hour to get my breath back. Didn't fancy being dumped on the street in that state, although there'd been no pressure to depart. Seemed to be enjoying herself. Independent. The apartment she's working in rents rooms to girls. Not 24/7 & doesn't normally do outcalls.
I am also considering having a threesome (never had one) can experienced members of the forum tell me how it is really like? Is it really as fun as it seems to be. I know it is easier for the girls because they going to do half the work each but how is it like for you. Do girls in clubs also do it (I mean the lesbian show and stuff too). Any experiences and suggestions are appreciated.First time you do it you'll feel like you are in heaven with two lovely bodies to play with. If they do lesbo show you will quickly realise that unless you got incredibly lucky. I mean like one in 10,000, they are not into it at all really and only doing it to waste time, explaining it is important to take is slowly, whilst you waste your money and they are not having to please you.
If you get the right chemistry you can have a lot of fun. Lots of girls in the clubs do it. As you an e92 regular now, take a couple of friends and offer them 500 for two hours - 250 each and most of them will bite your hand off. You can then take your time, ensure you get a lot of time with each, and with both working on you. It's a lot of fun for the first few times. Like anything. After too much you will have had enough. One small tip. If you like doing DATY. A lot of girls who will be happy to have an orgasm with you in a one to one room, won't be willing to let themselves go properly in a threesome unless they know one another really well.
Have fun, you got to do it at least once and of course do report.
Andalus Expat
08-15-21, 20:54
First time you do it you'll feel like you are in heaven with two lovely bodies to play with. If they do lesbo show you will quickly realise that unless you got incredibly lucky. I mean like one in 10,000, they are not into it at all really and only doing it to waste time, explaining it is important to take is slowly, whilst you waste your money and they are not having to please you.
If you get the right chemistry you can have a lot of fun. Lots of girls in the clubs do it. As you an e92 regular now, take a couple of friends and offer them 500 for two hours - 250 each and most of them will bite your hand off. You can then take your time, ensure you get a lot of time with each, and with both working on you. It's a lot of fun for the first few times. Like anything. After too much you will have had enough. One small tip. If you like doing DATY. A lot of girls who will be happy to have an orgasm with you in a one to one room, won't be willing to let themselves go properly in a threesome unless they know one another really well.
Have fun, you got to do it at least once and of course do report.Agree with PayForIt 100 per cent on this. The best you're ever going to get out of a "Lesbo show" is theatre. If you like theatre, fair enough. The chances of you happening across two girls with the hots for each other & willing to share the experience with you aren't that 10 thousand to one. A lot of girls on the game are enthusiastically bi. Even lesbian. But it's still long odds. It's work to them. Not pleasure. If you want to try that sort of thing, either know your putas very well or get in on the swinging scene. Where you'll find women genuinely want to fuck other women & guys they don't know.
As for the two girl straight. There's duos who offer that service. Just make it clear you don't want the fake lezzie. Don't think I'd try to match a random pair, And something to bear in mind. All putas will try to control their clients. It's part of the job. Two of them & you're outnumbered. You can end up getting what they want to give you, irrespective of what you want. A two girl at a club? The only time I got hustled into it, it was a complete waste of. As a one girl they're not exactly incentivized putas, are they? Money's in their hand & never likely to see you again? Two of them together? No thanks.
Agree with PayForIt 100 per cent on this. The best you're ever going to get out of a "Lesbo show" is theatre. If you like theatre, fair enough. The chances of you happening across two girls with the hots for each other & willing to share the experience with you aren't that 10 thousand to one. A lot of girls on the game are enthusiastically bi. Even lesbian. But it's still long odds. It's work to them. Not pleasure. If you want to try that sort of thing, either know your putas very well or get in on the swinging scene. Where you'll find women genuinely want to fuck other women & guys they don't know.
As for the two girl straight. There's duos who offer that service. Just make it clear you don't want the fake lezzie. Don't think I'd try to match a random pair, And something to bear in mind. All putas will try to control their clients. It's part of the job. Two of them & you're outnumbered. You can end up getting what they want to give you, irrespective of what you want. A two girl at a club? The only time I got hustled into it, it was a complete waste of. As a one girl they're not exactly incentivized putas, are they? Money's in their hand & never likely to see you again? Two of them together? No thanks.Thanks very much for your posts AE & PFI.
I do not want the theatre, and that's why I am not too sure, because I have to find 2 who I like and then they must like each other too. So it is a bit complicated. In fact the first time I went to estark stephany offered me a 3 some with julia, I did not accept it because I thought they would do what AE has said (waste time doing nothing). The thing is in the clubs I normally do 30 minutes, just to see how she works in the room, I let them know that I live here and have been to clubs before. So far the services have been very good (PFI also recommended some of them).
But now do you think it is possible to do 30 minutes for a threesome and get good service? Because I do not want to spend 500 euros and feel cheated (I would prefer to spend 500 on a real beauty in marbella than waste it on 2 girls for nothing).
Andalus Expat
08-16-21, 12:13
Thanks very much for your posts AE & PFI.
I do not want the theatre, and that's why I am not too sure, because I have to find 2 who I like and then they must like each other too. So it is a bit complicated. In fact the first time I went to estark stephany offered me a 3 some with julia, I did not accept it because I thought they would do what AE has said (waste time doing nothing). The thing is in the clubs I normally do 30 minutes, just to see how she works in the room, I let them know that I live here and have been to clubs before. So far the services have been very good (PFI also recommended some of them).
But now do you think it is possible to do 30 minutes for a threesome and get good service? Because I do not want to spend 500 euros and feel cheated (I would prefer to spend 500 on a real beauty in marbella than waste it on 2 girls for nothing).Can't say I'd ever considered the possibility of a 30 minute threesome. Thirty minutes is brief interlude to enjoy one woman. Two? And at Estark rates, you're getting into the territory where a duo out in the independent sector will perform for an hour. Why bother?
"I let them know that I live here and have been to clubs before. So far the services have been very good (PFI also recommended some of them). "
A busy club girl (and if you're targeting eyecandy you're targeting busy) has conversations with 6-7000 guys a year & could fuck over 1500 of them. She delivers her sales patter & your side goes in one ear & out the other. I've had these conversations too often. "Hello, where are you from?" "Torreblanca. I live here" "Are you on holiday?" One minute in & she's looking out the corner of her eye for the next prospect. Even if you fuck her, the chances of you leaving a mark on her memory aren't good. A month later & that's a 120 guys she's screwed. An indication that you've met her before will get her attention though. A lot of them don't even need a previous meeting to start that ploy. Try going up to a girl you know you've never met before, say you have & see what happens. Julia? Go into a club & ask a girl if she's Julia & there's a high likelihood she's Julia. Depends on how quick a thinker she is. Ask her for Julia & she won't know her if she's standing next to her. The chances of your Julia being another guy's Julia are not good. Unless you've both been with her at the same time. Club girl orgasms? Do you really think an attractive girl in her mid twenties finds a middle aged, possibly overweight, stranger on top of her humping for a brief period sexually stimulating? That's aside from an orgasm not being the best prelude to the next client's inconsiderate fumbling. Things can get sensitive down there. They are quite good at faking it though. Sorry to disillusion you, but this is all part of the job. * Generally, the only person in the room having sex is the client. The other is working. Listening to a couple of club girls discussing their work can be illuminating. And hilarious. One prefers not to become the subject matter.
Hence my general disinterest in club putas. There's just better opportunities out there in the non-club world for good sex. The incentives for the girls stack up much better. They meet far fewer clients & want to keep the ones they meet. You're much more likely to become an individual to them & someone they want to please. OK, it has its pitfalls. But no more than trying to find a decent restaurant serves a good meal rather than eating at McDonalds.
*For anyone wanting to learn about the job from a prossie's point of view, there's a forum not unlike ISG where UK girls share their thoughts & experiences. There's a lot to learn there. And that is all the information I will supply. You want to read it, you find it. The energy you expend doing so will probably reflect how interested you are in learning. Please don't troll it. It's their space, not ours.
Can't say I'd ever considered the possibility of a 30 minute threesome. Thirty minutes is brief interlude to enjoy one woman. Two? And at Estark rates, you're getting into the territory where a duo out in the independent sector will perform for an hour. Why bother?
"I let them know that I live here and have been to clubs before. So far the services have been very good (PFI also recommended some of them). "
A busy club girl (and if you're targeting eyecandy you're targeting busy) has conversations with 6-7000 guys a year & could fuck over 1500 of them. She delivers her sales patter & your side goes in one ear & out the other. I've had these conversations too often. "Hello, where are you from?" "Torreblanca. I live here" "Are you on holiday?" One minute in & she's looking out the corner of her eye for the next prospect. Even if you fuck her, the chances of you leaving a mark on her memory aren't good. A month later & that's a 120 guys she's screwed. An indication that you've met her before will get her attention though. A lot of them don't even need a previous meeting to start that ploy. Try going up to a girl you know you've never met before, say you have & see what happens. Julia? Go into a club & ask a girl if she's Julia & there's a high likelihood she's Julia. Depends on how quick a thinker she is. Ask her for Julia & she won't know her if she's standing next to her. The chances of your Julia being another guy's Julia are not good. Unless you've both been with her at the same time. Club girl orgasms? Do you really think an attractive girl in her mid twenties finds a middle aged, possibly overweight, stranger on top of her humping for a brief period sexually stimulating? That's aside from an orgasm not being the best prelude to the next client's inconsiderate fumbling. Things can get sensitive down there. They are quite good at faking it though. Sorry to disillusion you, but this is all part of the job. * Generally, the only person in the room having sex is the client. The other is working. Listening to a couple of club girls discussing their work can be illuminating. And hilarious. One prefers not to become the subject matter.
Hence my general disinterest in club putas. There's just better opportunities out there in the non-club world for good sex. The incentives for the girls stack up much better. They meet far fewer clients & want to keep the ones they meet. You're much more likely to become an individual to them & someone they want to please. OK, it has its pitfalls. But no more than trying to find a decent restaurant serves a good meal rather than eating at McDonalds.
*For anyone wanting to learn about the job from a prossie's point of view, there's a forum not unlike ISG where UK girls share their thoughts & experiences. There's a lot to learn there. And that is all the information I will supply. You want to read it, you find it. The energy you expend doing so will probably reflect how interested you are in learning. Please don't troll it. It's their space, not ours.Thanks for the info, very useful.
The thing is you are right that eyecandy ones do not usually give good service because they have customers and do not need to work hard. But if I do not like her physically I just can't go with her, so that narrows my choices.
Dose anyone know how the services are from the freelancers working in habana banus, mosh and etc. Because many beautiful ones are in these places but there is no experience on this forum. Magicsheep talked about their asking prices and are they really worth it? Does anyone know anything?
MagicSheep74
08-17-21, 07:53
Thanks for the info, very useful.
Magicsheep talked about their asking prices and are they really worth it? Does anyone know anything?Hello my friend,
Its very difficult to accurately report on prices and services of freelancers as its varies dramatically. In my experience, the majority of girls in Habana are working. I have had 100 an hour, to 300 an hour for a super hot girl. Also 300 for 2 hours and the girl has stayed all weekend. I guess that's the lure of taking a gamble with freelancers. In MOSH freelancers are much more difficult to spot, the ones that might be looking are normally looking for rich ' sugar daddies' to fund their totally unrealistic material needs. Shopping trip, out on the Yacht, tiny dog in there handbag, 5 weekly trips to the beauty salon. Classic extreme gold diggers non-sense. The few independents that can be find might ask for 300.
I allocate myself 400 a week for ' Roger Moore's ' *****s. Spilt between Estark / Sandalo / Babylon Mansion and on occasion Casa Masa. No more threesomes for me and no girls longer than an hour. Just my current rule for clubs and villas.
I have 2 sugar babies that rotate. Met both on seeking.com.
Ukrainian 34 years old. Recently divorced from rich husband. Super elegant and well dressed, banging body. Dinner, drinks, sex. No money exchanged. A keeper.
Half Emirati / Half French. 21 years old and lives with parents in Marbella. Dinner / drinks / sex at mine. 200 euros to help with studies. LOL. Attractive, but will change her out soon.
Once a month I take a weekend trip with a girl from seeking.com. Next month Amalfi Coast with a 6 ft Blond Dutch girl. Cost 1600 euros for the weekend.
I don't do this every month, and I am back and forward to the middle east for work.
Stay safe and enjoy.
Andalus Expat
08-17-21, 17:52
Thanks for the info, very useful.
The thing is you are right that eyecandy ones do not usually give good service because they have customers and do not need to work hard. But if I do not like her physically I just can't go with her, so that narrows my choices.
Dose anyone know how the services are from the freelancers working in habana banus, mosh and etc. Because many beautiful ones are in these places but there is no experience on this forum. Magicsheep talked about their asking prices and are they really worth it? Does anyone know anything?Like I've said before, for any given price, pretty girl is selling pretty girl. Not young or not pretty, she may be selling amusing company. Important to the Spanish, not so much with foreigners. Or good sex. They will all be earning. Different strokes for different folks. Move up the price bands they get younger & prettier.
"But if I do not like her physically I just can't go with her, so that narrows my choices."
Trophy girlfriend young eyecandy? You may have a problem there. Never met you so don't know. If you're a young Adonis you could be successful. If you're a middle aged overweight man with a face like a boot, at best you're only going to be tolerated for the money. Moving up the market increases the toleration factor. But as far as the girl's concerned, she'll be doing what's necessary to get you finished & gone & out of her life. Heart not in it. Putas are human after all. I've known guys who pitch way above their own merits for the money they're expecting to pay. Don't suppose they ever get to experience really decent service. But they're never going to find out, are they?
*For anyone wanting to learn about the job from a prossie's point of view, there's a forum not unlike ISG where UK girls share their thoughts & experiences. There's a lot to learn there. And that is all the information I will supply. You want to read it, you find it. The energy you expend doing so will probably reflect how interested you are in learning. Please don't troll it. It's their space, not ours.Please post a link to that forum. Would be interesting.
Ukrainian 34 years old. Recently divorced from rich husband. Super elegant and well dressed, banging body. Dinner, drinks, sex. No money exchanged. A keeper.
Half Emirati / Half French. 21 years old and lives with parents in Marbella. Dinner / drinks / sex at mine. 200 euros to help with studies. LOL. Attractive, but will change her out soon.
I don't do this every month, and I am back and forward to the middle east for work.
Stay safe and enjoy.In which case when you are next away PM me and I'll look after your two ladies. The Ukrainian sounds a dream!
MagicSheep74
08-18-21, 06:46
In which case when you are next away PM me and I'll look after your two ladies. The Ukrainian sounds a dream!Hehe,
The Ukrainian chic believes I am going to become her permanent boyfriend and move her in. I have no intention of doing either.
She has shown interest in having a threesome, so I am going to take her to Estark and try to find a provider. I am assuming you can take your girlfriend into the club, but finding a girl that is willing to perform sexual acts specifically on her might be harder. But where there's is a will, there's a way.
Another thread I know. But this time will report back throughout September on my adventures in both clubs / villas.
Enjoy MS.
Andalus Expat
08-18-21, 16:10
Please post a link to that forum. Would be interesting.You want it, you find it. I did. You get the advantage, you know it exists. I'm not going to stick it on here & have a load of idiots troll it. They'll go behind membership & validation in defence.
Gentlemen!
As you can se, I am a newbe on this forum, I sort of found it by coincidence when I was searching for info about SWs in the Malaga aerea.
After a long COVID break, a am going to Malaga on a buiseniss trip in the first week of September. It's many year's since I visited the CDS and at that time you could find SWs at Guadalahorce and more or less at all roundabouts all the way to La Linia. The going rate was 20 e for suck and fuck.
From posts here, I understand that SWs still are to be found at Guadalahorce. Does anyone know other places?
Is it still ok to pick up SWs or can there be problems with police?
What is the rates this days? I guess it has risen a bit since my last visit.
My "area of operations " will be from Malaga airport ant to Estepona ish.
Any other tips? I found the Slumi website and passion, but passion does not work. Any idea what's wrong? Any newspaper with personals worth checking? Old school, I know. But I am getting old, so.
Any information and tips will be highly appreciated. I will of course share my experience her during the week.
Hello my friend,
Its very difficult to accurately report on prices and services of freelancers as its varies dramatically. In my experience, the majority of girls in Habana are working. I have had 100 an hour, to 300 an hour for a super hot girl. Also 300 for 2 hours and the girl has stayed all weekend. I guess that's the lure of taking a gamble with freelancers. In MOSH freelancers are much more difficult to spot, the ones that might be looking are normally looking for rich ' sugar daddies' to fund their totally unrealistic material needs. Shopping trip, out on the Yacht, tiny dog in there handbag, 5 weekly trips to the beauty salon. Classic extreme gold diggers non-sense. The few independents that can be find might ask for 300.
I allocate myself 400 a week for ' Roger Moore's ' *****s. Spilt between Estark / Sandalo / Babylon Mansion and on occasion Casa Masa. No more threesomes for me and no girls longer than an hour. Just my current rule for clubs and villas.
I have 2 sugar babies that rotate. Met both on seeking.com.
Ukrainian 34 years old. Recently divorced from rich husband. Super elegant and well dressed, banging body. Dinner, drinks, sex. No money exchanged. A keeper.
Half Emirati / Half French. 21 years old and lives with parents in Marbella. Dinner / drinks / sex at mine. 200 euros to help with studies. LOL. Attractive, but will change her out soon.
Once a month I take a weekend trip with a girl from seeking.com. Next month Amalfi Coast with a 6 ft Blond Dutch girl. Cost 1600 euros for the weekend.
I don't do this every month, and I am back and forward to the middle east for work.
Stay safe and enjoy.Hello magicsheep,
Thanks for the info.
How is the quality now in casa masa and babilyon (if you have visited recently) ?
There are many nice looking girls at mosh, habana and etc but a bit risky to take them when there is little known about them.
What do you think about nao, padre? Are there working girls in those?
Thanks.
You want it, you find it. I did. You get the advantage, you know it exists. I'm not going to stick it on here & have a load of idiots troll it. They'll go behind membership & validation in defence.What to google? At least a tip?
Hehe,
The Ukrainian chic believes I am going to become her permanent boyfriend and move her in. I have no intention of doing either.
She has shown interest in having a threesome, so I am going to take her to Estark and try to find a provider. I am assuming you can take your girlfriend into the club, but finding a girl that is willing to perform sexual acts specifically on her might be harder. But where there's is a will, there's a way.
Another thread I know. But this time will report back throughout September on my adventures in both clubs / villas.
Enjoy MS.Just a thought, couldn't it be better to let the Ukrainian find a playmate for the threesome than to take one from Estark? I know that's the way other Couples have handled it.
Hello my friend,
Its very difficult to accurately report on prices and services of freelancers as its varies dramatically. In my experience, the majority of girls in Habana are working. I have had 100 an hour, to 300 an hour for a super hot girl. Also 300 for 2 hours and the girl has stayed all weekend. I guess that's the lure of taking a gamble with freelancers. In MOSH freelancers are much more difficult to spot, the ones that might be looking are normally looking for rich ' sugar daddies' to fund their totally unrealistic material needs. Shopping trip, out on the Yacht, tiny dog in there handbag, 5 weekly trips to the beauty salon. Classic extreme gold diggers non-sense. The few independents that can be find might ask for 300.
I allocate myself 400 a week for ' Roger Moore's ' *****s. Spilt between Estark / Sandalo / Babylon Mansion and on occasion Casa Masa. No more threesomes for me and no girls longer than an hour. Just my current rule for clubs and villas.
I have 2 sugar babies that rotate. Met both on seeking.com..Are you sure that she is half Emirati and not 100 % Moroccan? Extremely interesting mix otherwise. Om already salivating, lmfao.
Thanks for the info about la Habana, I'm curious about these freelancer clubs and have so many questions. Are they better looking than the girls at Scandalo&Estark? Is it worth going no matter the day of the week or is it a certain hour and day it's significantly better?
I might be able to take a flight to Malaga the 27th of August, but most likely I won't be able to go before September. Do the freelance scene detoriate in September and late August due to the tourist season ending?
Sorry for all the questions.
Had a great time with Chanel at the Atico, great value for the money. 30 minutes for 50 euros. Highly recommended.
Took the metro to Guadalahorce went to the left saw three decent Romanian SW: s and ended but with the blonde one. Paid her 30 euros and she started a really good, deep CBJ then I fucked her from the back not only did she have a pretty tight pussy she also moved her body very well. After busting my nut I thought to myself why I would spend more money for a fuck when I can get the job well done for 30. Of Course she wasn't the prettiest girl in the world but I had a good experience for not much money.
I guess fucking in the bushes gets me going.
Anyways, I had a rather embarrassing moment when I approached this very beautiful blonde girl sitting on the pavement a bit from the bus stop with her phone and asked her in Spanish if she was working. She said no and then asked if I meant "working like them" pointing to the street prostitutes. I said yes and she said no again. I realized my mistake and started apologizing and she started laughing telling me it was alright. I'm quite surprised how calmly she handled it, I imagine most women being mistaken for a prostitute would be furious.
MagicSheep74
08-19-21, 07:22
Are you sure that she is half Emirati and not 100 % Moroccan? Extremely interesting mix otherwise. Om already salivating, lmfao.
Thanks for the info about la Habana, I'm curious about these freelancer clubs and have so many questions. Are they better looking than the girls at Scandalo&Estark? Is it worth going no matter the day of the week or is it a certain hour and day it's significantly better?
I might be able to take a flight to Malaga the 27th of August, but most likely I won't be able to go before September. Do the freelance scene detoriate in September and late August due to the tourist season ending?
Sorry for all the questions.Moroccan. Well I've seen pictures of her mother in Dubai wearing the Abaya. So I think she is Emariti.
Hababa. Is a popular bar in Puerto Banus. It contains some girls that are working. I can't comment on there individual services or prices, this is down to your negotiation skills and services agreed between you and the girl. Just like Scandalo and Estark, there are very attractive girls and not so attractive girls. Go after 10.30 pm between Thursday to Monday. I would recommend you both go, have fun and report back. It also has a sexy girl dancing on a stage. Good fun bar all around.
Nao and Playa Padre. Never been, can't comment.
Babylon / Casa Masa. - Mostly Latin girls, please note I have a preference from slim eastern European girls. So that fact that I visit both places, indicates that sometimes they do have tall and sim Latin girls which I do also like. I have not been to either in 8 weeks. So can't comment on current girls. Send them a WhatsApp message and they will send you pictures of girls they currently have.
My report on the current situation in Babylon / Casa Masa / Estark and Scandalo will will arrive in around 2 weeks.
Cheers MS.
You want it, you find it. I did. You get the advantage, you know it exists. I'm not going to stick it on here & have a load of idiots troll it. They'll go behind membership & validation in defence.Don't know why you thought this was a problem. You clearly think "a load of idiots" use ISG! Perhaps you are correct. In any event, as this is meant to be a sharing of information forum, rather than a "I know stuff you don't but I won't tell" forum, for anyone interested the forum AE was referring to with prostitutes giving feedback on punters, and indeed a lot of good and helpful advice to prostitutes, is called saafe (yes spelt with two letter A's).
But now do you think it is possible to do 30 minutes for a threesome and get good service? Because I do not want to spend 500 euros and feel cheated (I would prefer to spend 500 on a real beauty in marbella than waste it on 2 girls for nothing).I don't doubt that you'll get two girls who are willing to take your money off you to do a mini threesome for 30 minutes but you will just not get the most out of the experience doing that. By the time the washing has taken place, you'll just about be able to squeeze in 5 minutes BJ from each and a bit of time fucking each girl and it will all be over. In fact, I don't even think an hour is enough to really enjoy a relaxed, party style threesome.
I fear you are getting your maths from my previous posts. I tell every girl in E92 I will guarantee 2 hours for 250 instead of them having an hour for 150. They know that by the time I have left (or they have left my room)/ they have washed / re-applied their make up, got downstairs, then have to lure the next punter, they could have been earning the second hour 100 e instead. So most accept the deal. For sure I have had girls say "no it is 150 every hour". I either tell them "most of the girls in here do 250/2 hours" so I will have to go with someone else, or if I really want to session with that girl (rare these days to find a "must do") I will say I'll take one hour only and then I'll play it by ear. So. Given most of the girls in E92 will go for the 250/2 hours deal, I get a threesome for 500. I will confess I am really now on Magic Sheep's page. Better sex with one girl than two. But as you have never done a threesome you really should try one.
Go to E92. Ask for a threesome with Veronica and Beatrice. Both blonde and both good looking. They have been friends since they were children. I very much doubt they will do the 250/2 hours deal with you as they don't know you. They will not put on a lesbo show and won't fake it for you. Just take them for one hour - 150 each. Ok you spent 300. But you were going to spend 160 (80 x2) if you took them for 30 minutes. If you are having a great time offer them 100 each for an extra hour to see if they take. If not, your call on the extra 300.
Other options: Alicia and Angela. More GFE than Veronica and Beatrice. You could also try Ina with any of Veronica, Beatrice, Alicia or Angela. If you are into latinas try Sabrina (big glasses) with Kelly (blonde bob hair).
If you want a wow experience go with Jahira (black from Cuba. In 30's but amazing body) and Camilla, short, also in 30's. Very slim. Both have terrific bodies and give great service.
I doubt you'll go wrong with any of those combinations.
I would abandon the thought of a 30 min threesome. It is really not what it is about and you won't get much out of it.
Gentlemen!
Any other tips? I found the Slumi website and passion, but passion does not work. Any idea what's wrong? Any newspaper with personals worth checking? Old school, I know. But I am getting old, so.
Any information and tips will be highly appreciated. I will of course share my experience her during the week.To access pasion.com you need VPN selected for Spain. Euroweekly has some adds that you might be interested in checking our....is available online.
I'm coming to Fuengirola again last two weeks in September. Unfortunately due to pandemic some who I like to visit have left. 😣.
Andalus Expat
08-19-21, 18:30
Don't know why you thought this was a problem. You clearly think "a load of idiots" use ISG! Perhaps you are correct. In any event, as this is meant to be a sharing of information forum, rather than a "I know stuff you don't but I won't tell" forum, for anyone interested the forum AE was referring to with prostitutes giving feedback on punters, and indeed a lot of good and helpful advice to prostitutes, is called saafe (yes spelt with two letter A's).Well done PayForIt. It's not the people who post on ISG. Sensible bunch, mostly. It's the people who look at it without contributing. If it's anything like other forums 100:1. (Does the site carry page load stats? Some forum platforms can. I know what they are on websites I run. Why I know I get considerable loads out of places like India. And the nuisance contact attempts go with them) Get real PayForIt. A good portion of them will be doing that with a tissue in one hand. That's what some people use sites like this for. Not the sort of people I wish to see going over & bothering the gurlz. Most WG wouldn't expend the time necessary to find the front door. Wish I hadn't mentioned it, now. Kept it for PMs.
Maybe the moderator here will be kind enough to redact the references from our posts.
Andalus Expat
08-19-21, 19:02
Took the metro to Guadalahorce went to the left saw three decent Romanian SW: s and ended but with the blonde one. Paid her 30 euros and she started a really good, deep CBJ then I fucked her from the back not only did she have a pretty tight pussy she also moved her body very well. After busting my nut I thought to myself why I would spend more money for a fuck when I can get the job well done for 30. Of Course she wasn't the prettiest girl in the world but I had a good experience for not much money.
I guess fucking in the bushes gets me going.
Anyways, I had a rather embarrassing moment when I approached this very beautiful blonde girl sitting on the pavement a bit from the bus stop with her phone and asked her in Spanish if she was working. She said no and then asked if I meant "working like them" pointing to the street prostitutes. I said yes and she said no again. I realized my mistake and started apologizing and she started laughing telling me it was alright. I'm quite surprised how calmly she handled it, I imagine most women being mistaken for a prostitute would be furious.Think I've posted this here before but bears repeating. The police do have regular purges round Guadalhorce. The why is in the second two paras of ShooBree's post. If you must indulge, FFS take the hire company sticker out the back window of your rental before you do. Or you may find yourself having an uncomfortable night in a cell & an expensive encounter in a court the next morning. Unless you've been unfortunate enough to choose a weekend or the court's busy. What you're indulging in is a serious offence. Anywhere within a defined distance of a building, for this particular part of the law. (Distance may depend on the province) The police might give a Spaniard a break. A hefty fine collected from a foreigner would be a feather in his cap. (You won't like the options to not paying then & there) And the hire company sticker advertises you likely are.
Finnish Fucker
08-21-21, 11:36
Think I've posted this here before but bears repeating. The police do have regular purges round Guadalhorce. The why is in the second two paras of ShooBree's post. If you must indulge, FFS take the hire company sticker out the back window of your rental before you do. Or you may find yourself having an uncomfortable night in a cell & an expensive encounter in a court the next morning. Unless you've been unfortunate enough to choose a weekend or the court's busy. What you're indulging in is a serious offence. Anywhere within a defined distance of a building, for this particular part of the law. (Distance may depend on the province) The police might give a Spaniard a break. A hefty fine collected from a foreigner would be a feather in his cap. (You won't like the options to not paying then & there) And the hire company sticker advertises you likely are.I have personal experience of an encounter with the police in 2016 when I last visited Spain. I was walking the streets behind Scandalos and after a few drinks too much had a brilliant idea of playing with one of the black girls tits in the bushes. She had a her hand on my cock but we did not fuck. Then I walked back to Nostrum hotel and was stopped by local police. Someone had alarmed them from the neighbour buildings. The police checked my ID card and asked if I had sex with the black street hooker. I luckily spoke some spanish and somehow managed to explain that no sex act was done. They gave me a warning and said next time it is handcuffs and penalty. No need to say there was never a next time and won't be.
I don't doubt that you'll get two girls who are willing to take your money off you to do a mini threesome for 30 minutes but you will just not get the most out of the experience doing that. By the time the washing has taken place, you'll just about be able to squeeze in 5 minutes BJ from each and a bit of time fucking each girl and it will all be over. In fact, I don't even think an hour is enough to really enjoy a relaxed, party style threesome.
I fear you are getting your maths from my previous posts. I tell every girl in E92 I will guarantee 2 hours for 250 instead of them having an hour for 150. They know that by the time I have left (or they have left my room)/ they have washed / re-applied their make up, got downstairs, then have to lure the next punter, they could have been earning the second hour 100 e instead. So most accept the deal. For sure I have had girls say "no it is 150 every hour". I either tell them "most of the girls in here do 250/2 hours" so I will have to go with someone else, or if I really want to session with that girl (rare these days to find a "must do") I will say I'll take one hour only and then I'll play it by ear. So. Given most of the girls in E92 will go for the 250/2 hours deal, I get a threesome for 500. I will confess I am really now on Magic Sheep's page. Better sex with one girl than two. But as you have never done a threesome you really should try one.
Go to E92. Ask for a threesome with Veronica and Beatrice. Both blonde and both good looking. They have been friends since they were children. I very much doubt they will do the 250/2 hours deal with you as they don't know you. They will not put on a lesbo show and won't fake it for you. Just take them for one hour - 150 each. Ok you spent 300. But you were going to spend 160 (80 x2) if you took them for 30 minutes. If you are having a great time offer them 100 each for an extra hour to see if they take. If not, your call on the extra 300.
Other options: Alicia and Angela. More GFE than Veronica and Beatrice. You could also try Ina with any of Veronica, Beatrice, Alicia or Angela. If you are into latinas try Sabrina (big glasses) with Kelly (blonde bob hair).
If you want a wow experience go with Jahira (black from Cuba. In 30's but amazing body) and Camilla, short, also in 30's. Very slim. Both have terrific bodies and give great service.
I doubt you'll go wrong with any of those combinations.
I would abandon the thought of a 30 min threesome. It is really not what it is about and you won't get much out of it.Thanks for the info.
After reading your posts and what AE has said, I think I am going to delay the threesome for now, first maybe try more girls (in estark, slumi, villas) and then choose the best combination. Maybe I will do the threesome outside of clubs, because that way it becomes cheaper and maybe I decide to go for a full night (that gets very expensive in club). I suggest you try nicolleta (black hair, tall) she gives great service.
I have seen beatrice, too heavy for my taste but really nice.
Think I've posted this here before but bears repeating. The police do have regular purges round Guadalhorce. The why is in the second two paras of ShooBree's post. If you must indulge, FFS take the hire company sticker out the back window of your rental before you do. Or you may find yourself having an uncomfortable night in a cell & an expensive encounter in a court the next morning. Unless you've been unfortunate enough to choose a weekend or the court's busy. What you're indulging in is a serious offence. Anywhere within a defined distance of a building, for this particular part of the law. (Distance may depend on the province) The police might give a Spaniard a break. A hefty fine collected from a foreigner would be a feather in his cap. (You won't like the options to not paying then & there) And the hire company sticker advertises you likely are.The thing is some people actually enjoy this. The feeling of getting caught and fear. That's weird but some people like that sensation, that's why They do it there I guess.
Andalus Expat
08-21-21, 20:32
The thing is some people actually enjoy this. The feeling of getting caught and fear. That's weird but some people like that sensation, that's why They do it there I guess.The danger's not just the police. They're messing with girls don't even have the facilities to wash their hands between clients. And the clients are the no-hopers of Malaga. With the African girls, they come from countries with high incidences of all sorts of nasties. Hepatitis, AIDS & the rest. And have an African attitude to hygiene. Unfortunately, the same guys go & visit regular putas. Just hope you don't follow one.
The danger's not just the police. They're messing with girls don't even have the facilities to wash their hands between clients. And the clients are the no-hopers of Malaga. With the African girls, they come from countries with high incidences of all sorts of nasties. Hepatitis, AIDS & the rest. And have an African attitude to hygiene. Unfortunately, the same guys go & visit regular putas. Just hope you don't follow one.Thats very true, it is a very very risky practice to do. Also I think many of these working girls don't even use condom if you pay them 10,20 euros more. So that's says a lot about the hygiene situation.
Don't know why you thought this was a problem. You clearly think "a load of idiots" use ISG! Perhaps you are correct. In any event, as this is meant to be a sharing of information forum, rather than a "I know stuff you don't but I won't tell" forum, for anyone interested the forum AE was referring to with prostitutes giving feedback on punters, and indeed a lot of good and helpful advice to prostitutes, is called saafe (yes spelt with two letter A's).Yeah, that attitude does get annoying. Thank's for digging up the name. Indeed it provides for a somewhat interesting read while waiting for other things.
Arn Poddict
08-23-21, 16:48
I visited a couple of brothels in Malaga last week. I have to admire the quality of photoshopping of their website pictures.
First one was Atico. Checked their website and Colombian Mariana caught my eye. Her body and tits looked amazing. Then I walked to the place from my hotel and asked for Mariana. She was present and off to the room we went. When the clothes came off I did not know should I cry or laugh. Cry because her body and tits were nowhere as good as in the pics. And laugh because the pics were an absolute masterpiece of photoshopping. Well anyway she was a nice person and the 1 hour session was all right. https://aticosex.wordpress.com/2021/08/05/mariana-2/.
Second brothel was Velazquez 24. Again checked their website before going and Sonia looked nice with ample breasts. When she arrived I saw immediately that I had made a mistake. Selected a short 30 min session with her and terminated that quickly with an excuse since I did not have any mood for fucking. https://velazquez24.es/en/sonia/.
I also checked some ads on Slumi website. Visited one number with a picture of great looking tits in their ad. Surprise surprise, the 3 hookers who were present in the apartment were not even close to the one in the pic. I apologized and left immediately. Bait and switch experience at its best.
The worst and also kind of funniest experience was with one of the Asian places who advertise in Pasion. The place was close to Fuengirola. Lady on the phone said she is Korean and 28 year old. When she opened the door I saw that she was clearly older but had slim legs and tiny body. And the lights were dim. But when her dress came off things went downhill. The last nail in my mongering coffin was when she removed her mask and moved closer to me to start blowjob. She looked like a female version of Mr. Chow of Hangover movies. Before my cock was in her mouth I told her right away that sorry, I will terminate the session. Gave her a little amount of money for the inconvenience and ran away. I was laughing through my tears.
I visited a couple of brothels in Malaga last week. I have to admire the quality of photoshopping of their website pictures.
First one was Atico. Checked their website and Colombian Mariana caught my eye. Her body and tits looked amazing. Then I walked to the place from my hotel and asked for Mariana. She was present and off to the room we went. When the clothes came off I did not know should I cry or laugh. Cry because her body and tits were nowhere as good as in the pics. And laugh because the pics were an absolute masterpiece of photoshopping. Well anyway she was a nice person and the 1 hour session was all right. https://aticosex.wordpress.com/2021/08/05/mariana-2/.
Second brothel was Velazquez 24. Again checked their website before going and Sonia looked nice with ample breasts. When she arrived I saw immediately that I had made a mistake. Selected a short 30 min session with her and terminated that quickly with an excuse since I did not have any mood for fucking. https://velazquez24.es/en/sonia/.
I also checked some ads on Slumi website. Visited one number with a picture of great looking tits in their ad. Surprise surprise, the 3 hookers who were present in the apartment were not even close to the one in the pic. I apologized and left immediately. Bait and switch experience at its best.
The worst and also kind of funniest experience was with one of the Asian places who advertise in Pasion. The place was close to Fuengirola. Lady on the phone said she is Korean and 28 year old. When she opened the door I saw that she was clearly older but had slim legs and tiny body. And the lights were dim. But when her dress came off things went downhill. The last nail in my mongering coffin was when she removed her mask and moved closer to me to start blowjob. She looked like a female version of Mr. Chow of Hangover movies. Before my cock was in her mouth I told her right away that sorry, I will terminate the session. Gave her a little amount of money for the inconvenience and ran away. I was laughing through my tears.No need to say sorry or give anything at all to them for *your* inconvenience. When that happens to me, and the woman is not of any interest to me, I tell her "you not same as photo" and start leaving.
I visited a couple of brothels in Malaga last week. I have to admire the quality of photoshopping of their website pictures.
First one was Atico. Checked their website and Colombian Mariana caught my eye. Her body and tits looked amazing. Then I walked to the place from my hotel and asked for Mariana. She was present and off to the room we went. When the clothes came off I did not know should I cry or laugh. Cry because her body and tits were nowhere as good as in the pics. And laugh because the pics were an absolute masterpiece of photoshopping. Well anyway she was a nice person and the 1 hour session was all right. https://aticosex.wordpress.com/2021/08/05/mariana-2/.
Second brothel was Velazquez 24. Again checked their website before going and Sonia looked nice with ample breasts. When she arrived I saw immediately that I had made a mistake. Selected a short 30 min session with her and terminated that quickly with an excuse since I did not have any mood for fucking. https://velazquez24.es/en/sonia/.
I also checked some ads on Slumi website. Visited one number with a picture of great looking tits in their ad. Surprise surprise, the 3 hookers who were present in the apartment were not even close to the one in the pic. I apologized and left immediately. Bait and switch experience at.You should have asked for a line up, the madame usually do it automatically.
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