Madrid

[PeterK14]

Hello,

I've been many times in spain (Madrid and Barcelona) for my work and I like to spent my time with beautiful escorts.

Their is a website to find escort in madrid easily: www.escort-infinity.com.

I hope you'll like and enjoy your trip in spain.Hi,

Just one escort in Madri?

[So Happy]

Hi,

Just one escort in Madri?EscortInfinity is clearly their pimp, and not a very good one at that. I'm always suspicious when the first posting is for just for one agency, and particularly so when they only have one escort listed in the particular city.

[MalibuGuy]

Hi guys,

I'm a recent joiner and this is my first time post of hopefully many to come. Was in Madrid for one night and was looking for an out call escort. Chanced upon hotyoung. Es and was quite impressed with the quality. Asked for Carla and was looking forward to the rendezvous. The girl who showed up wasn't the same from the website but was very good nonetheless. No complaints. Italian girl 24 yrs old. Very GFE oriented and the way I like it. Extended BBBJ (asked if I wanted covered which I declined). The sex was super good and she was totally into it. It helped that I had a good cologne on which she really liked. 2 pops in an hour with different positions (cowgirl, reverse, doggy) on bed and against the door and wall. Had a mutual massage too. Total damage 230 euros. 180 + 50 for taxi. Man, would repeat if I was there another day! Got to love Madrid!! BTW, what's the feedback on erosguia.com? The selection there looks very good too. Are those the same girls who show up or different (and good or not)?

[Belisaj]

Hey all,

Just came back from Madrid and want to give you guys an updated scouting report on 3 things. In regards to escorts:

1) escortsdecine.com has outdated pictures. I called for Barbara and when she came over, it was her in the pictures. Except add about 20-30 pounds. If you're into that, go on ahead.

2) Semichica.com doesn't use real pics. Asked for Saray and a completely random Spanish girl showed up. She was kinda pretty but not my type so I let her go. BTW, guys, if you call an escort to your room and you reject her, you still have to pay 50 euros for her "taxi. ".

3) Like everyone's said before, Vive is where it's at and still is at. I went there both on a Saturday and a Tuesday night. 19 euros is the cover and it includes a free drink. All the girls that work there are stunners. 9's and 10's a plenty. Around 50-60 girls there both nights and it doesn't start cracking until around 11 pm. A majority of the girls I saw on Saturday night were also there Tuesday night. 40 euros to buy the girl a drink and have her hang out with you (waste of money imo), 110 euros for 30 minutes in the room, 220 euros for an HR.

Let me know if this update helps you out and saves you money. Also, I wanted to try universidadesmadrileñas.com but was worried it'd be like the other agencies so let me know if any of you guys try it out and how it goes.

[MaximusBibicus]

I ma going to Madrid next week. Is there any pick-up bars, worth visiting?Same here, looking for some. The types that are in Dubai and Thailand etc.

[Bradbury]

Just had share this with you my brothers.

I recently visited 18 chicas and generally have nothing new to report but.

So after picking YoYo for an hour, the usual process of exchanging Money and the undressing starts. She undresses completely and then. She takes out a Casio Wristwatch and straps it on. I started to Laugh and said:"Honey, no worries it won't take that long!

The whole time banging her tight pussy I had to think about the watch. I thought it was too funny but then again it is Probably Chinese efficiency.

Would I recommend the place? No, I would not but not because of the watch issue. The choices are slim and not very exciting.

There are much better places to spend your Euros.

Safe Hunting.

[LukeSkyWanker]

Paid a visit to Calle acebeda in Villaverde as posted by Mr so happy, no wonder is he is happy and I also am very happy. As he said in his report there are women everywhere and.

Only wearing bikinis or mini skirts, I even saw one topless with lovely tits. I visited at 21:00 on a Tuesday night and there were approx 70-80 good looking SWs around and 20 not so good but I suspect very willing and capable. Took a long time to decide and cruised quite a while several police cars and vans around but I think they are there for our protection.

More than anything, they just watched the goings on. Very funny to see all the cars parked up rocking from side to side, there were some real stunners around but eventually.

Picked the most Latin looking of them all, they are my favourite. My Spanish is poor but managed to get by, certainly not a Romanian, said she was from Colombia and I think she.

Was genuine. Wanted 50 Euro at first but she agreed on 30, climbed into the back seat of my car with her and she sprung into action I think she wanted a quick result but when it.

Didn't happen quick she was quite relaxed and made sure it did happen eventually and gave good friendly service. Gave her the 50 she asked for at first, a bargain in my eyes.

Places like these should have a status like a listed building or a national park and remain untouched, May the force be with you.

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[Cons68]

Do you want fries with that?


I'm a recent arrival to Spain. I'd like some advice. First, what are the nightclubs where the sluttiest girls hang out. Both locals and people from out of town.

Also, what are some of the most decently priced places to buy sex in the city? Best bang for my buck.

[Durabrite]

Hello,

I will be spending 1 night stopover in Madrid next week and I want to take maximum advantage of it.

I am requesting assistance to find nice Apartments / Brothels as I prefer the atmosphere much over clubs (Altrough I will definitely visit Vive Madrid.).

I have been reading nearly all the pages of the Madrid thread.

I have seen comments about http://www.crystalescort.es/ and http://www.mansionx.es/ but a bit outdated.

I have seen comments about 18chicas.com and pretty many comments on www.spalumi.com about chinese houses altrough the fact that they clearly advertise that many girls in this kind of houses fuck uncovered (follar a pelo) and this is a big put off off concerning hygene that I will find.

Any other hint possibly in Madrid area?

Thank you very much in advance for your precious help.

[Smizzle]

I've tried to check out casa de campo several times but could not find anything. The park is quite big and it was hard to find any action.

Someone knows where to look for it?

Until now vive is the place to be!

Huge selection, but it s not a bargain place.

[Smizzle]

Is there no hotel or something around?


Paid a visit to Calle acebeda in Villaverde as posted by Mr so happy, no wonder is he is happy and I also am very happy. As he said in his report there are women everywhere and.

Only wearing bikinis or mini skirts, I even saw one topless with lovely tits. I visited at 21:00 on a Tuesday night and there were approx 70-80 good looking SWs around and 20 not so good but I suspect very willing and capable. Took a long time to decide and cruised quite a while several police cars and vans around but I think they are there for our protection.

More than anything, they just watched the goings on. Very funny to see all the cars parked up rocking from side to side, there were some real stunners around but eventually.

Picked the most Latin looking of them all, they are my favourite. My Spanish is poor but managed to get by, certainly not a Romanian, said she was from Colombia and I think she.

Was genuine. Wanted 50 Euro at first but she agreed on 30, climbed into the back seat of my car with her and she sprung into action I think she wanted a quick result but when it.

Didn't happen quick she was quite relaxed and made sure it did happen eventually and gave good friendly service. Gave her the 50 she asked for at first, a bargain in my eyes.

Places like these should have a status like a listed building or a national park and remain untouched, May the force be with you.

[WillMax]

I've tried to check out casa de campo several times but could not find anything. The park is quite big and it was hard to find any action.

Someone knows where to look for it?

Until now vive is the place to be!

Huge selection, but it s not a bargain place.You have to be careful if you want to go around la casa de Campo. It's being closely watched by police.

[LukeSkyWanker]

Hotel?

Is there no hotel or something around?

The area is very industrialized and I did not spot a hotel anywhere nearby, If you towed a caravan there and parked up you would make a fortune renting it out for the half hour!

May the force be with you.

[WillMax]

I found one: Hotel El Asador De Enrique.

http://madrid.callejero.net/calle-de-la-acebeda.html

[Smizzle]

I found one: Hotel El Asador De Enrique.

http://madrid.callejero.net/calle-de-la-acebeda.htmlThanks!

Someone has experience with that hotel?

[Param Ahmad]

....what for me is the best ever SWs paradise. It is in Villaverde to the south of Madrid; you come off Av Andaluca before the San Cristobal station and head for Calle LE Acebeda (a previous report referred to San Cristobal and Av Marconi, but I could find nothing there). They are everywhere, seemingly at all hours of the day and night, some absolute stunners revealing all and wearing only the skimpiest of bikini bottoms! My goodness, more whiplash and jeans splitting erections....This sounds like a great place to girlwatch, but looking at my GPS and Google Earth I can't determine location. I'm guessing GPS North 40 20 26.08, West 3 43 01.42. Can anybody verify these coordinates or provide location information?

[So Happy]

This sounds like a great place to girlwatch, but looking at my GPS and Google Earth I can't determine location. I'm guessing GPS North 40 20 26.08, West 3 43 01.42. Can anybody verify these coordinates or provide location information?Hi PA,

Enter Calle la Acebeda, Madrid, Spain into Google maps and it will take you straight there! Others seem to have made it there.

On my last visit there were some topless beauties on Calle Pinuecar that is off Calle la Acebeda, but there is loads of action all around.

Good hunting.

SO-H.

[Berthold]

Hi PA,

Enter Calle la Acebeda, Madrid, Spain into Google maps and it will take you straight there! Others seem to have made it there.

On my last visit there were some topless beauties on Calle Pinuecar that is off Calle la Acebeda, but there is loads of action all around.

Good hunting.

SO-H.Map of the streetwalker area.

Happy hunting.

[Jcr153]

4. Flowers: North west of Madrid in Las Rozas (come off the A6 at km 26, NOT 29 as the website says). About 25 girls and 6 punters at 9 pm on Saturday night.
So felt a little deflated and went back to the bar to have another drink before leaving and who should be sitting right there but the aforementioned sexual bomb,
inviting as you wish, gorgeous face, fantastic smile, Barbie doll like blonde hair, magnificent breasts and body and a thin sliver of material around her waist (presumably she called it a mini skirt) with NO panties.
I had popped only 10 minutes before but my immediate erection was so strong that it almost split my jeans. Turns out that she's from Jordan, so the first Arab that I have butchered, but looked more
like a Latina to me. Well, she performed even better upstairs and was just perfect! The best punt in over 20 years of doing this, no doubt about that. Absolutely gorgeous looking, sexy as hell, brilliant personality,
GFE, very willing, OWO, AWO, CIM, etc, etc basically everything other than bareback vaginal sex. So, invitations to the wedding will shortly be going out to all my ISG brothers. PM me if you want her number.
She may be mine, but others also need to experience the heavenly pleasure that Nancy has to offer. Oh, and I mustn't forget to report that drinks are 12, same for Ladies, 75 for 30 minutes;
10 for sheet and room.I can"t believe she is still there and looking just as good. When you mention blonde barbie doll I thought there is Tons of those, but then from Jordan. And when you said the name, Nancy, I was like the holy shit that's her.

I sessioned with her back and 2008. As luck would have it I'll be back in Madrid in a couple weeks. Yeah for me.

JCR153.

[So Happy]

Map of the streetwalker area.

Happy hunting.Berthold, WTF did you get this from? Serious kudos!! One of the ladies that I did was no 21 Veronica and she was exactly where she has been placed on the map. Gorgeous and uber sexy Romanian with only a small bikini bottom, f*ck me shoes and enhanced boobs thrust out for all to see and enjoy. Memorable!

[Noreaster]

Just arrived to Madrid any advice on finding a Asian brothel, house or girls at a club?

I am up near the airport but have a car so drive no issue.

[Charm City Dave]

In madrid for a few nights. From what I read here looks like Vive is the place to go. Just for one night so cost no concern. Going to try to slip away from the GF and get to there.

1) do they accept credit cards and would you trust them with same.

2) can I go wearing shorts.

3) I don't speak Spanish any advise appreciated.

[Member #4469]

In madrid for a few nights. From what I read here looks like Vive is the place to go. Just for one night so cost no concern. Going to try to slip away from the GF and get to there.

1) do they accept credit cards and would you trust them with same.

2) can I go wearing shorts.

3) I don't speak Spanish any advise appreciated.Hello Dave,

They do accept credit card's but if you pay the room with credit card they charge you a few extra % but I would trust them.

Shorts is not a problem! Entrance is 17 E inc. One drink, half an hour 110 E one hour 220 E ladies drink's are 40 E.

Have fun!!

[So Happy]

Hello Dave,

They do accept credit card's but if you pay the room with credit card they charge you a few extra % but I would trust them.

Shorts is not a problem! Entrance is 17 E inc. One drink, half an hour 110 E one hour 220 E ladies drink's are 40 E.

Have fun!!But check in advance the credit card charge as it can be as high as 20%.

Don't worry about not speaking Spanish; most of the girls at Vive speak English and, if not, the international language of sex works well.

[Illini333]

Two questions. Are there live sex shows in Madrid? Are they good? Second question, do any Arab girls work at any of the clubs? If so, where can I find them? Thanks.

[WillMax]

Berthold good map, and do not go to Casa del Campo, I did not like it. Better to hot.

[Param Ahmad]

Thanks Berthold & So Happy for the information about finding Calle de Acebeda in Villaverde. I apparently need an updated GPS map. However, with your help I found it on my GPS. It looks like the GPS location is about N40 20.243, W3 43.112. I look forward to seeing the scene during my next trip to Madrid.

[Sammi123]

I am looking forward to my first visit to Vive, but most of my previous experience is from German FKK's.

In reading the thread, it sounds like the set-up is pretty similar? Do you get a locker to store your clothes, etc?

"Buying drinks" for the girls is something new for me though. Is this required? Can you just hang out at the club, pick the lady you want and go to the room, or is buying a drink expected?

Also, does 110 Euro /30 min mean only one pop?

Lastly, the club website says open till dawn. Is that literal. I. e. The time of closing varies depending on the season? When do they usually make you leave / or there are no more girls left.

Thanks in advance for the help.

[Member #4469]

I am looking forward to my first visit to Vive, but most of my previous experience is from German FKK's.

In reading the thread, it sounds like the set-up is pretty similar? Do you get a locker to store your clothes, etc?

"Buying drinks" for the girls is something new for me though. Is this required? Can you just hang out at the club, pick the lady you want and go to the room, or is buying a drink expected?

Also, does 110 Euro /30 min mean only one pop?

Lastly, the club website says open till dawn. Is that literal. I. e. The time of closing varies depending on the season? When do they usually make you leave / or there are no more girls left.

Thanks in advance for the help.Hello Sammi 123.

The setup at Vive Madrid is more like a nightclub so it's nothing like FKK's.

The entry fee is 17€ inc. One drink, the ladies drink is 40 Euros but you don't have to buy them drinks if you don't want to! They will ask you frequently for drinks but as said you don't have to.

When you find the girl of your dreams I suggest you ask her how many times you can come before you go to the room. Many of the latino girls also enjoys it in the butt and CIM and don't charge you extra for it.

Vive closes at 5 am but the party continues in the private rooms downstairs after hours but then it's required you buy drinks to the ladies. I had a very expensive morning with 3 ladies like 18 months ago who ended up in a orgy at my hotel room after we drank champagne the whole morning at Vive, I had great fun with these ladies I didn't even had to pay for the sex but I guess I already had in a way buying them all this champagne.

Vive is expensive but they have the best looking girls in Spain, but the summer is not the best time to visit because it's less girls present. Many of the girls go back to south america or leaving for Marbella, Ibiza etc in the summer.

[Sabor]

Hotel?

Is there no hotel or something around?

The area is very industrialized and I did not spot a hotel anywhere nearby, If you towed a caravan there and parked up you would make a fortune renting it out for the half hour!

May the force be with you.Great find! Do you know what metro station is nearby?

[Berthold]

Great find! Do you know what metro station is nearby?Villaverde Alto.

[BigFreeMan]

Heading to Madrid in couple weeks.

Tanks for info on Vive and will be my first stop.

Also please if anyone has info on some Asian parlours in Madrid that offer the usual extras?

[Sirioja]

Are there blond Russian or Latvian or Estonian or Ukrainian girls working there? Or mostly Latina, not interested for.

Are DFK and BBBJ standard GFE services?

[Member #4469]

Are there blond Russian or Latvian or Estonian or Ukrainian girls working there? Or mostly Latina, not interested for.

Are DFK and BBBJ standard GFE services?Hello Sirioja! Yes you can find a few of them at Vive I have been with at least three Russian girls but most of the blondes are from Romania but you will surprise me if you'll be disappointed at Vive.

[Member #4469]

Are DFK and BBBJ standard GFE services?As always this is very individual I suggest that you ask them before.

But in my experiences the latinagirls are more open to GFE and analaction.

[Sirioja]

Hello Sirioja! Yes you can find a few of them at Vive I have been with at least three Russian girls but most of the blondes are from Romania but you will surprise me if you'll be disappointed at Vive.Thanks for your answer, but I m not attracted by Latinas, nor Asian, nor black. I m used to real Russian escorts with GFE services for 200/250 €/ h with DFK, BBBJ and CIM. In FKK, I find top look and super GFE with DFK and BBBJ Romanian or Czech or Latvian "fresh" girls for 100/ h.

[ShooBree]

Thanks for your answer, but I m not attracted by Latinas, nor Asian, nor black. I m used to real Russian escorts with GFE services for 200/250 / h with DFK, BBBJ and CIM. In FKK, I find top look and super GFE with DFK and BBBJ Romanian or Czech or Latvian "fresh" girls for 100/ h.I don't see the point of going to Madrid / Spain if Latina are off the table. Better for you to stick to what you know then, even tho there are some lovely blondes.

[Sirioja]

I don't see the point of going to Madrid / Spain if Latina are off the table. Better for you to stick to what you know then, even tho there are some lovely blondes.In Moonight Figueres, from 2011 to 2013, I met a real dreamed Russian blond woman, Lara, who was dancer, but also much more.

[Berthold]

In Moonight Figueres, from 2011 to 2013, I met a real dreamed Russian blond woman, Lara, who was dancer, but also much more.Hi Sirioja,

this lady might be of interest for you.

I have been with this one before, outstanding personality / body, good service.

http://www.girlsbcn.co.uk/escort/gbhelen6.html

[Local Expert]

Gentlemen,

Which are the most commonly used websites for independent escorts to advertise on in Madrid?

Thank you. LE.

[Member #4469]

Visited Vive Madrid both Monday and Tuesday I have never seen so less people at Vive on a Monday before, Tuesday was a lot better packed with girls and punters between 24-03 then it slowly gets less and less people. Talent is still very good, I guess we all have different preferences but at ViveMadrid you should be able to find something you like.

I also had the pleasure to meet Brenda from www.hotyoung.es we had a really good time together with lots of GFE, recommended.

[Mr Ricky]

Visited Vive Madrid both Monday and Tuesday I have never seen so less people at Vive on a Monday before, Tuesday was a lot better packed with girls and punters between 24-03 then it slowly gets less and less people. Talent is still very good, I guess we all have different preferences but at ViveMadrid you should be able to find something you like.

I also had the pleasure to meet Brenda from www.hotyoung.es we had a really good time together with lots of GFE, recommended.Thanks Toxeth and good timing. I will be in Madrid soon and preparing a list of places to visit. I like the look of www.hotyoung.es. Is their place near the airport? I am trying to see how far it is from my hotel. Cheers.

[Member #4469]

Thanks Toxeth and good timing. I will be in Madrid soon and preparing a list of places to visit. I like the look of www.hotyoung.es. Is their place near the airport? I am trying to see how far it is from my hotel. Cheers.Hello Mr Ricky, I really don't know if they have a place or not I had her coming to my hotel. I contacted them and 3 hours later she was at my room, great service!

[ElTacoShmacko]

Anyone been to Prive space recently? Worth a visit?

[Mr Ricky]

Hello Mr Ricky, I really don't know if they have a place or not I had her coming to my hotel. I contacted them and 3 hours later she was at my room, great service!Thanks Toxteth. I will try an incall and report back. Cheers.

[Mongerer88]

I am also interested in the Incall location and experiences for hotyounges.

Speaking of which, is there a local review board for Madrid like sexomercadobcn is for Barcelona.

I will try one of the clubs, but my preference is to find independents in the 100-200 euro per hour range that allow multiples in the hour and offer liberal services. I have had a lot of luck in Barcelona finding honest reviews of those ladies on sexomercadobcn, and I am trying to find its Madrid equivalent.

I realize ISG is more geared towards clubs with lower prices for shorter sessions, but I am sure someone out there shares my same interests. Thanks.

[ShooBree]

I am also interested in the Incall location and experiences for hotyounges.

Speaking of which, is there a local review board for Madrid like sexomercadobcn is for Barcelona.

I will try one of the clubs, but my preference is to find independents in the 100-200 euro per hour range that allow multiples in the hour and offer liberal services. I have had a lot of luck in Barcelona finding honest reviews of those ladies on sexomercadobcn, and I am trying to find its Madrid equivalent.

I realize ISG is more geared towards clubs with lower prices for shorter sessions, but I am sure someone out there shares my same interests. Thanks.Like spalumi?

http://www.spalumi.com/f44/

[Mongerer88]

Like spalumi?

http://www.spalumi.com/f44/Thank you. I will do some internet browser translating and see what I can find.

[Dayman024]

Thank you. I will do some internet browser translating and see what I can find.There is also a sexomercadomadrid.

It just does not seem to get the same amount of traffic. May be of use though IDK.

[Slickie]

Hi,

I'll be in Madrid soon (Alcobendas) and would like to invite a girl over for some fun in my hotel room.

Any independent girls or good agencies that could be recommended for this?

(I don't speak Spanish).

Thanks.

S

[Mongerer88]

Thanks, Dayman024.

I am going to join Slickie in begging for information, although my Madrid trip is a long ways off.

Has anyone seen this provider? I think her pictures are hot and I like her service offerings.

https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-madrid/abril


There is also a sexomercadomadrid.

It just does not seem to get the same amount of traffic. May be of use though IDK.

[Lucknow]

I planning first time trip to madrid and been reading the board. I had a question on factory air hotel / Luxor sexy hotel. These websites say they have clubs asnd hotels. Are these regular hotel room for al day or just hourly love hotels?

Thanks for the info in advance.

[GoldenRule]

Hi,

I would be staying on Calle Silva 6, Madrid next week. Which would be a good place for massage body 2 body & happy ending + its a elite & classy place.

[Charm City Dave]

Was in Madrid recently and hit Vive Madrid. Thanks for all the info that was posted here. Someone here said the girls we young which had me expecting a lot of under 25 types. I'd say average age there is late 20's to early 30's. But plenty of good lookers nonetheless. I went on a Wednesday night around 11 and lots of girls, smaller number of punters. Girls were pretty aggressive introducing themselves asking for drinks and trying to get me to take them to a room (once I declined the drink). Lots of Romanians, next up I would say were actual Spaniards and then a lot from other countries as well. A lovely Brazilian girl put the hard sell on me and I should have taken her, but took a Turkish girl instead probably cause I've never been with Turkish girl and lost count of the Brazilians I have done. Service wasn't GFE (which always leaves me disappointed). Having just done one girl not sure what conclusions you can draw but thought I'd share my experince.

[So Happy]

Was in Madrid recently and hit Vive Madrid. Thanks for all the info that was posted here. Someone here said the girls we young which had me expecting a lot of under 25 types. I'd say average age there is late 20's to early 30's. But plenty of good lookers nonetheless. I went on a Wednesday night around 11 and lots of girls, smaller number of punters. Girls were pretty aggressive introducing themselves asking for drinks and trying to get me to take them to a room (once I declined the drink). Lots of Romanians, next up I would say were actual Spaniards and then a lot from other countries as well. A lovely Brazilian girl put the hard sell on me and I should have taken her, but took a Turkish girl instead probably cause I've never been with Turkish girl and lost count of the Brazilians I have done. Service wasn't GFE (which always leaves me disappointed). Having just done one girl not sure what conclusions you can draw but thought I'd share my experince.Thanks CCD. Vive, in my experience has more older girls, albeit many stunners, and the level of aggressive selling is definitely proportionate to the number of punters. On a very busy Friday or Saturday night they are much more relaxed as they know that they will earn loads. Of course, Romanians are everywhere and I much prefer Latinas, but getting the GFE is very hit and miss and mainly depends on the chemistry that you develop with the girl in the bar. That is typically my sole purpose in the selection process (apart from making sure that the tits do not flop down when released) - to judge whether I will get the full works without endless upselling! The tried and tested way of responding to the inevitable drinks question is to tell them that your money is for jiggy-jiggy upstairs. It works every time and often elicits a chuckle from the girl.

[So Happy]

I planning first time trip to madrid and been reading the board. I had a question on factory air hotel / Luxor sexy hotel. These websites say they have clubs asnd hotels. Are these regular hotel room for al day or just hourly love hotels?

Thanks for the info in advance.Often the clubs pretend that they are hotels but the only rooms are those where the girls take their clients. For example, Estark 92 in Fuengirola is Hotel Star of the Seas. However, Hotel Diana Plus in Madrid is a proper hotel which has the Whiskeria Estark club in the basement with a side section of the hotel building for the girls rooms. It seems like Factory Air and the Luxor Sex Hotel (south of Madrid) are both similar to Diana Plus. When I was last at Factory Air the club entrance was at the back and the hotel entrance at the front, with the hotel advertising the club on their website as a discoteca erotica! So, all the clubs have hourly rooms for the girls, some are attached to real hotels where you can stay as normal, and some pretend to be hotels as, I guess, some sort of legal manoeuvre.

[Chieu]

So here's my first report on the scene of Madrid for 3 nights.

1st night: Arranged an escort (Valerie) from a website. Her location seemed very close to mine (near gran via) and figured I'd give it a shot. Her address was different than the one on the website. Took a cab and called, said she'd arrive in 10 minutes. I got annoyed and left after 20.

Went to another escort I had noted down for (whom was also recommended here). Her apartment was close so I only waited for about 5 minutes, no biggie. The girl who opened the door looked quite different compared to the website photos. She said she was a Brazilian and the agreement was do all for an hour (I specifically asked how many pops and she said as many as I can do in hour) . After the first go (multiple positions, all wrapped, no kissing) she proceeds to give a regular half-ass massage then tells me we are done. After a very short discussion she offers to give a massage again. I had gotten irritated and left. Points-wise face: 5, body: 6, performance: 4.

2nd night: Had other plans so by the time I was "free" I was quite tired and it was late. Decided to pick up a SW in between sol and gran via (there are many). Romanian girl, 20 years old, named Daniela. She tried to hassle some more money out (to include the GFE) , we found a middle ground. Had fun, was worth the 120 for 1,5 hours. Her place was a bit sketchy though. Face: 8, Body: 8, Performance: 7.

3rd night: Went to Vive as it was my top priority even before I had arrived in Madrid. Vive was by far the best location and alternative of all I had tested. Tried 3 girls that night, review below.

1. Ilona: Romanian girl, best conversationalist of the bunch, fit body, a bit of an over-actor, somewhat mechanical action wise. (face: 8.5, body:9, performance: 6).

2. Christina: Ukr girl, didn't have much of a conversation, very fit body, seemed relatively eager to please, felt nice throughout the event. (face: 9.5, body: 9, performance: 7.5).

3. Ingrid: Hung girl, nice and calm conversation, more voluptuous body, liked it more, seemed very eager to please, was by far the best of the 3. (face: 9.5, body:9.5, performance: 9).

Hope this information helps and forgive me if I screwed anything up on here.

[Mongerer88]

Chieu,

Can you give us the name of the second escort.

If would be very useful.

Thanks.

[Chieu]

Chieu,

Can you give us the name of the second escort.

If would be very useful.

Thanks.Oh my bad, the second escort's name was Brenda, she was on most escort sites in a blue top.

[Solid State]

In Madrid for the first time next week. Will seek out the best of what I have read on here and report back. Does anyone have experience of this place. Palaciodelplacer. Will try and find it myself but not sure about the address on their website.

[Mr Ricky]

I checked out VIVE. Wow, what a club! I paid 17 euros to get in gets and that includes a free drink. There were probably 60+ girls working with some stunners. Most of the Romanian girls wanted me to buy them a drink but I simply said no. I took my time and chose a slim stunner from Brazil. She led me to the back and I had to pay 10 euros for some bed sheets / towels. I gave her 100 euros for 30 minutes. Our room was nice and clean with nice modern shower. She has a nice bubble butt and liked a finger in both holes. This place is nice and a must if you are in town with limited time to fuck.

[Member #4469]

I checked out VIVE. Wow, what a club! I paid 17 euros to get in gets and that includes a free drink. There were probably 60+ girls working with some stunners. Most of the Romanian girls wanted me to buy them a drink but I simply said no. I took my time and chose a slim stunner from Brazil. She led me to the back and I had to pay 10 euros for some bed sheets / towels. I gave her 100 euros for 30 minutes. Our room was nice and clean with nice modern shower. She has a nice bubble butt and liked a finger in both holes. This place is nice and a must if you are in town with limited time to fuck.Hello Mr Ricky.

Any chance you remember the name of the Brazilian stunner?

[Solid State]

Had a few days off and managed to bag a cheap flight to Madrid. Never been so looked to this forum for some guidance. Here is what I found. Estark Whiskeria: Best to search for Diana Plus 4 Star Hotel as far as directions go. The bar is adjacent. I wonder how many unsuspecting hotel guests have wondered in there and got more than they bargained for? A smallish (U) shaped bar with around 30 girls 6's and 7's went first with Linda from Colombia. Mulata with long curly blond hair, false (D) -cups. Very lively and gave me CBJ which eventually became BBBJ and finished all over her tits E120 1 HR. Next. Loli. Dominican Republic 22, a-cups and big booty gave a good overall performance. I paid no entry charge here, the drinks I had, juice where E9 sheet / towel E2 and you go up in the lift from the bar to the rooms. Plenty of parking. I'd say worth a visit.

[Solid State]

Based on my research I would be looking for a large apartment complex with a flowers neon sign on the top. When you turn on to Rosa De Lima look to your right you will see three entrances. The one on the far left is for the hotel, the one on the right is for the club and the one in the middle is an underground car park from where you can access the club also, through the door next to the WC. Arrived around 5 pm about 30 girls 7's 8's and 9's but there in lies a problem when you have got so much nice ass to choose from which one do you go with? I was looking for that wow factor and it came in the lovely form of a girl from the Dominican Republic. She had the tiniest of waists, perfect (D) cups and wow how did she fit that ass in those jeans? Sadly upstairs was to reveal a different story. Not on performance but the clothes where hiding a long scar across her stomach from child birth and those implants were the ones where the boob is cut from the bottom to the nipple. Having said that it didn't really bother me she gave BBBJ sex in all positions and cum on her tits. E140 1 HR.

2) Evelyn. Slim Colombian mulata with black hair small tits gave me nice GFE absolutely no rush half hour for E75.

3) Adrianne. Romania. Very pretty with long jet black hair, nice slim figure. Spoke Italian, Spanish and good English. Been at the club for six months. Would have been a very good performance had she not constantly trying to up sell me time. She charged my E140 for 1 HR but it was no way near that. I just paid and got out of there. It was my first time and I didn't want any problems.

A juice in this place will set you back E10 and the towel / sheet is E10. Will return here one day some nice girls on display.

[Il Duca]

In Madrid for the first time next week. Will seek out the best of what I have read on here and report back. Does anyone have experience of this place. Palaciodelplacer. Will try and find it myself but not sure about the address on their website.Several years ago I had a fun afternoon in this place. I went in around 2:30 p. There were five ladies working. I handed the Madam 250 euro and told her I wanted to see all five ladies for 30 minutes each, and for her to keep the clock and send the girls into my room in order as she liked. When it was all over, I had seen five hot ladies over three hours and had cum four times. Amazing experience. I tip the madam 50 euro as I knew I would be back in the days ahead and I was.

[Il Duca]

Hi,

I'll be in Madrid soon (Alcobendas) and would like to invite a girl over for some fun in my hotel room.

Any independent girls or good agencies that could be recommended for this?

(I don't speak Spanish).

Thanks.

SI don't understand this issue with speaking the language of the lady. I have never had this problem,. I use Google translator and all is clear. I pre type a few phrases and I also type out exactly what I want the lady to do with me and we are off to the races. After 10 minutes into the initial meeting there should be no time for talking as her mouth should be full of cock.

[So Happy]

I don't understand this issue with speaking the language of the lady. I have never had this problem,. I use Google translator and all is clear. I pre type a few phrases and I also type out exactly what I want the lady to do with me and we are off to the races. After 10 minutes into the initial meeting there should be no time for talking as her mouth should be full of cock.Haha, spot on Il Duca! How difficult is leche en la boca por favor? Also, hand and tongue movements are an important part of the international language.

[Solid State]

So on my recent 1st time visit to Madrid in between looking for clubs like Vive, Estark and Flowers I thought I would check out the industrial area where the working girls were said to be. Went during the day in the middle of the week. There were a few girls standing about but nothing worth seeing really. Returned later in the evening, more girls present spread out over quite a large area. This place is quite run down in places, fires burning, rubbish every where and some of the girls, well they look like they live on the bloody street. Having said that there were a few that were worth stopping for and although this place seeming seedy and down right wrong I was excited and I liked it. Drove around for hours looking for something that took my fancy mainly on Calle Acedeba, Villa Verde, Calle Mantejo, Call de vale Tobalina, Avenida de real pinto. Kept thinking that I wasn't quite hitting the correct streets were all the best action takes place. Eventually picked up a nice looking 18-19 year old spanish girl. She was wearing normal clothes and not dressed like a tart. Spoke decent english and offered BJ for E15 and fuck for extra E5. She took me literally round the corner. Didn't fancy fucking in the car so just had covered BJ. Later while in the clubs being asked for E140 an hour I couldn't help thinking why didn't I offer that young girl E100 for the whole night and bring her back to my hotel.

[Sammi123]

I took the great advice I have received here, in particular from Toxteth, and I am happy to file this report.

I'd originally had an ambitious plan to hit three clubs on Friday night (Factory Air, Flowers Park, and Vive) - unfortunately my flight got delayed and so I had to skip on Flowers Park.

I've been to 30 or so German / Austrian / Swiss FKKs and a few places in Barcelona, but this Discotec / Club experience was new to me.

Factory Air is quite close to the Barajas airport, and is a good choice if you have a layover and want to get to some place quick. I arrived at around 8:45 PM, and there were around 20-30 ladies (mostly 7's and 8's with a few 9's), and maybe 7-8 guys. Definitely a nice ratio. No entry to get in, 10 Euro fee for towel / rooms, 70 Euros /30 minutes for the ladies. I took a bit of time to survey all of the ladies, a few came by asking to be bought drinks, but I politely declined.

I settled on a hot Romanian girl Gabriella. I asked her if she would sit down on the couch and chat first, but she insisted on a drink. I felt like we were getting off to a bad start so I called it off.

Ultimately found two others. Natalie, a Dominican girl, who was excellent and another Romanian brunette, Ariana. I'd recommend both.

At this point, I decided to head out to Vive, thinking that I might even stop back at Factory Air as my hotel was close by.

Arrived at Vive at around 11:30 PM. This was a revelation to me. Simply blown away by the number of stunners, 9's and even a few 10's everywhere. My previous top line-up was FKK Globe in Zurich. But that was not match of Vive. Just amazing. 17 Euro entry (which includes a drink voucher) and 10 Euros room fee + 100 Euro /30 minutes for the ladies. From what the ladies tell me, nearly all of the ladies (save for maybe 10) arrive by 9 or 10 PM. The peak time for guys is around 1-2 AM. What that means is that the ideal time to be at the club from a guy's perspective is around 10 PM.

Had 4 sessions, all but the last were very good:

1. Crystal (Bulgarian I believe). Incredibly hot. DFK, CBJ, sex in all the positions.

2. Raisa (Moldovian). Very friendly / gregarious girl. Hard to miss. Stunningly beautiful and excellent service (the usual as above for me). Raisa also strongly recommend get friend, Ruby, who I took to a room next.

3. Ruby (Moldovian). Very sexy and passionate. Phenomenal service. Highly recommend.

4. Bianca (Romanian). A stunner like the others, but I do not recommend her. She was distant in the session, pretty mechanical.

Overall, I had a great night and am very appreciative of all the advice I got here.

My takeaway from this:

In the future, I will probably just stick to Vive. More expensive, but in my view worth it.

Madrid clubs really seem to have better line-ups overall than the German FKKs. I am trying to understand why and I presume it is because: 1) it's easier for Romainians's and others to manage with Spanish, 2) the rates are higher, 3) cost of living is lower. Overall, I think service levels may be a bit better at the very best German FKK's, but it's a close call, and I think there is considerable YMMV.

Overall, I think both (German FKK's and Spanish Clubs) have their merits, and I plan to enjoy both going forward.

[ShoesAndSocks]

Arrived at Vive at around 11:30 PM.
1. Crystal (Bulgarian I believe). Incredibly hot. DFK, CBJ, sex in all the positions.At Vive, is CBJ the exception to BBBJ, or the rule?

[Member #4469]

At Vive, is CBJ the exception to BBBJ, or the rule?Normally you get BBBJ but it's no rule!

[Il Duca]

Has anyone had any experiences with this agency?

http://www.universitariasmadrileas.com/entrada

Amazing looking ladies!

[EscortInTime]

Has anyone had any experiences with this agency?

http://www.universitariasmadrileas.com/entrada

Amazing looking ladies!Yes, one time, when I went to Madrid for business purpose, I called a girl af this agency. Young, slim and naughty, it was a good experience.

Last time I went, I spent some time with a Bulgarian girl that works in Chalet privado.

http://www.escortintime.com/escorts/madrid-laura-11092

Cheap. I paid 120 for 1 hour, pretty and she sayd yes to everything.

And in March, I also spent time with a colombian girl that was working in this agency http://www.escort-vips.com/escort/pamela/.

The girl I met was quite similar to the girl in the picture, I have negotiated the price to 350 for 2 hours. Anal sex inclusive.

[Sammi123]

At Vive, is CBJ the exception to BBBJ, or the rule?CBJ was just my preference. All but one of the girls was prepared to do BBBJ.

[PussyLiccker]

Good find Sammi, and thanks to Socks for directing us here. I was looking into a Spain trip, and wasn't totally sure. Looks like I have a very good reason now. I recall Shark16 said the same thing that he heard Madrid is good spot.

When are good times to visit these clubs? Sammi listed out Moldavians, Romanians, and Bulgarians, so November ok? They all have similar holidays?

So, the rate is 100per half, double the DE rate. Talking quality per pricing, is it worth it? If comparing to higher priced spots like Globe, and etc., is it more worth it or about the same? Still, it's lower than Globe rate. Are they knock your socks off level that 100 is most worth it? Atleast in Globe service isn't YMMV.

So the question is, are the girls optics level that much worth it given the higher pricing and YMMV aspect? Seems riskier.

[Member #4469]

Good find Sammi, and thanks to Socks for directing us here. I was looking into a Spain trip, and wasn't totally sure. Looks like I have a very good reason now. I recall Shark16 said the same thing that he heard Madrid is good spot.

When are good times to visit these clubs? Sammi listed out Moldavians, Romanians, and Bulgarians, so November ok? They all have similar holidays?

So, the rate is 100per half, double the DE rate. Talking quality per pricing, is it worth it? If comparing to higher priced spots like Globe, and etc., is it more worth it or about the same? Still, it's lower than Globe rate. Are they knock your socks off level that 100 is most worth it? Atleast in Globe service isn't YMMV.

So the question is, are the girls optics level that much worth it given the higher pricing and YMMV aspect? Seems riskier.Hello PussyLiccker, It's a matter of taste I guess! One of the biggest differences is the entrence-fee in FKK's you normally pay 60-80€ in entrance but also have free meals and free soft drinks inc. And often saunas, swimmingpool and relax areas which makes it good to relax between the sessions in the zimmer!

At the clubs in Spain you normally pay 10-20€ entry, if it's not free and you almost always get drink-tickets in return. Between the sessions it can be difficult to relax and most of the clubs don't offer any food but there are exceptions such as Scandalo outside Malaga that offers food at a very reasonable price.

But on the other hand sex is in general more expensive at these clubs compared to FKK's in Germany, normally clubs outside the citycenter is cheaper like Scandalo outside Malaga or Factory Air outside Madrid charge around 80€ half an hour, while located near the citycenter ViveMadrid which in my opinion is the best club in Spain charging 110€ half an hour. We all have different taste in women but if you like the latin-look go to ViveMadrid it's the best looking girls I have ever seen in any p4 p place. If your choice is eastern-european looks then you could stick to FKK's.

One of the other big differences is that in these clubs in Spain they normally don't charge you extra for CIM, Anal etc. But on the other hand they will constantly ask you for expensive drinks, you don't have to buy them drinks and you really shouldn't but sometimes it gives you a better chance of great session.

I like both but I visit Spain more often mainly because the good weather and the latin-girls is in general more passionate and provide the greater GFE-experience than the Easteuropean-girls.

At ViveMadrid you could expect 80-120 girls every day except Sunday from 23:00, and November is no problem to visit.

[PussyLiccker]

Thanks for the additional info Toxeth.

None of the women on Sammi's report are Latin, but Eastern Europeans. So, are you saying that the Moldavians, Romanians, Bulgarians you find in Spain are not really higher in quality than those you find in FKKs? What percentage of EE girls would we estimate to be in Vive? Are we saying there will be 80-120 girls in one club/setting?

Thanks,
PL

[ShoesAndSocks]

We all have different taste in women but if you like the latin-look go to ViveMadrid it's the best looking girls I have ever seen in any p4 p place.So, are there many native Spanish girls working in Vive and other Madrid clubs? I haven't been to Spain since the early 90s, but I clearly remember the olive-skinned, buxom, raven-haired beauties that seemed to be everywhere you went. One of the frustrations of Zurich - so many gorgeous local girls, but rarely to be found in the FKK clubs.

Any Sth Americans? I was in a rather high-mileage Miami strip-club (Bourbon Street) earlier in the year, and some of the Colombian and Cuban girls were amazing.

[NinBoy]

Is this club more of a nightclub (dancing, loud music and VIP sofas) or more of a strip club vibe with pole dancing and a douche DJ hyping the women?

How are the girls dressed? Clubbing clothes or working girl attire?

Does the clientele enter as a group of friends or is it similar to German FKK. More of a 1 man show or a couple of buddies.

I can't seem to find a website or any quality pics of the club.

Help!

Thanks enthusiasts.

[Phantasie310]

In Madrid for a day. Seeking advice.

Looking for a classy girl offering incall, which is available in the afternoon as well and which offers good service (BBBJ, maybe CIM / deep throat). A club may also be an option, but I guess Vive etc are not open in the afternoon? Any advice appreciated!

[The Cane]

So, are there many native Spanish girls working in Vive and other Madrid clubs? I haven't been to Spain since the early 90s, but I clearly remember the olive-skinned, buxom, raven-haired beauties that seemed to be everywhere you went. One of the frustrations of Zurich - so many gorgeous local girls, but rarely to be found in the FKK clubs.

Any Sth Americans? I was in a rather high-mileage Miami strip-club (Bourbon Street) earlier in the year, and some of the Colombian and Cuban girls were amazing.During my trips to Spain, I have found very, very few Spanish girls working in the clubs I attended. There were many, many chicas from South America though. But still, the Romanians dominated. After Germany, Spain has been my second favorite destination in Europe for mongering. It's very underrated in my opinion.

[Member #4469]

In my opinion normally there are not big differences of the quality of the Eastern European girls in Spain VS FKK's I would say it's more or less the same standard. Better clubs such as ViveMadrid have a higher percentage of stunners than other clubs, this applies both Latin and Eastern European girls and I would say at ViveMadrid have 50% EE-girls and 50% Latin girls most of them are South American girls with a high percentage of Brazilians but you will find the odd Spanish girl and many girls from Dom Rep, Cuba, Colombia etc. And yes PussyLiccker there are 80-120 girls at ViveMadrid, they charge €17 entrance with one free drink, girls drink are €40 where the girl gets half.

To sum it all visit ViveMadrid you will not be disappointed! Try not to visit when it's Champions League football because it's way to much people these nights.

And i can confirm Sammi123 report that Rubi is really good in the room with lots of kissing and passionate sex i have been with her many times the last two years...

[ShoesAndSocks]

To sum it all visit ViveMadrid you will not be disappointed!Thanks. Portugal is on my short-list of countries to visit, so hopefully I can combine that with Madrid sometime next year.

[PussyLiccker]

At ViveMadrid you could expect 80-120 girls every day except Sunday from 23:00, and November is no problem to visit.Sammi has been to myriads of German/Swiss/Austrian clubs, so that has a bit of credibility when he mentions higher end girls as far as looks. Can we all agree on this? I understand taste is subjective, but would the lineup at Vive be superior to any club in Germany? Or even clubs in Switzerland for that matter? I understand different types of girls as half are Latin, but my question is regarding the Eastern Europeans.

If the lineup is comparable, which clubs would guys compare the lineup to? Can anybody name particular girls from German FKK that would represent the type of girls you find at Vive?

I'm thinking a Mon and/or Tuesday visit given the quoted information. In FKKs, those days are the slowest of the week. Not for Vive? Consistant numbers throughout the week? If Mon or Tues would be the lower number like 80, would the top girls take off? That's generally the case in FKKs now it seems.

Would there be high ratio of girls to guys, and would that create girls to be more aggressive? Are the girls generally more aggressive there? Any experience guys can give some advice on their experiences, and how to handle that would be insightful.

One important question, what time do these clubs close?

I do know a Ro girl that is close to stunning that worked in Spain working in DE now. Man, if I see a house full of them, it would make my day! Haha.

Thanks,

PL.

[Berthold]

Sammi has been to myriads of German/Swiss/Austrian clubs, so that has a bit of credibility when he mentions higher end girls as far as looks. Can we all agree on this? I understand taste is subjective, but would the lineup at Vive be superior to any club in Germany? Or even clubs in Switzerland for that matter? I understand different types of girls as half are Latin, but my question is regarding the Eastern Europeans.

If the lineup is comparable, which clubs would guys compare the lineup to? Can anybody name particular girls from German FKK that would represent the type of girls you find at Vive?

I'm thinking a Mon and/or Tuesday visit given the quoted information. In FKKs, those days are the slowest of the week. Not for Vive? Consistant numbers throughout the week? If Mon or Tues would be the lower number like 80, would the top girls take off? That's generally the case in FKKs now it seems.

Would there be high ratio of girls to guys, and would that create girls to be more aggressive? Are the girls generally more aggressive there? Any experience guys can give some advice on their experiences, and how to handle that would be insightful.

One important question, what time do these clubs close?

I do know a Ro girl that is close to stunning that worked in Spain working in DE now. Man, if I see a house full of them, it would make my day! Haha.

Thanks,

PL.You can compare the lineup at vive madrid to FKK palace in frankfurt. You will find everything there besides asian girls. The service level at vive madrid is alot higher compared to FKK clubs in frankfurt for example I have never paid extra money for anal. The week days are the busiest days at vive with Saturday and Sunday being the slowest days. Spanish clubs don't get busy until late do not go to vive before 10:30 pm. As a foreigner you will an advantage over local guys, because alot of local guys go there, only to have drinks and watch girls and most of the girls know this. Girls at vive madrid are not as pushy as in FKK palace in general. Have a drink at the bar sample the talent, strike up conversations with girls you like, and see how it goes from there. Ac hotel paseo de castellano and melia hotel castilla are in walking distance to vive madrid. I have been to both clubs numerous just in case this might be helpful to you. You can meet vive girls out side the club at a restaurant close by called el rincon de tetuan.

[PussyLiccker]

Thanks. Ignoring low service levels at Palace, the general appearance of Palace girls arn't tops IMO. There are lots of veteran or older type girls (late 20's to around 30), although differing nationalites (more Central Europeans to Germans), with silicones looking a bit plasic and aged. If comparable to these type of girls, I wouldn't be impressed with the lineup. Plus, we are comparing them to Ro/Mol/Bul girls at Vive. By saying comparable to Palace, are we meaning high number of siliconed girls? Also, what age range are the high percentage of the girls? Good portion of the under 24 or lower?

Perhaps another club would be a better comparison?

If you get CIM and Anal included, rate sounds much fairer than thought. How common is Anal or CIM? Do majority of the girls include CIM? So I take it that it's something you bring up before the room to make sure that the girl provide those services?

[Member #4469]

Is this club more of a nightclub (dancing, loud music and VIP sofas) or more of a strip club vibe with pole dancing and a douche DJ hyping the women?

How are the girls dressed? Clubbing clothes or working girl attire?

Does the clientele enter as a group of friends or is it similar to German FKK. More of a 1 man show or a couple of buddies.

I can't seem to find a website or any quality pics of the club.

Help!

Thanks enthusiasts.Hello NinBoy, Vive is like a nightclub with a few VIP-sofas in the main lounge but not many uses them, and several more downstairs close to the rooms, they have a few girls usually two or three at the time pole dancing on stage every half hour or so?! But definitely more like a nightclub, most girls dress in a sexy dresses. At Vive you find both lonely guys and men in larger groups or with buddies.

[Member #4643]

Hello NinBoy, Vive is like a nightclub with a few VIP-sofas in the main lounge but not many uses them, and several more downstairs close to the rooms, they have a few girls usually two or three at the time pole dancing on stage every half hour or so?! But definitely more like a nightclub, most girls dress in a sexy dresses. At Vive you find both lonely guys and men in larger groups or with buddies.I was in Vive a few times in September / October, both on a Sunday night. It was very slow, although there were plenty of beautiful girls (and not too many men).

My only problem with Vive is that finding anything that resembles GFE is practically impossible. And, when I made it clear I wanted BBBJ, I couldn't find anyone. After three girls turned me down, I finally just gave up. My girl was quite beautiful, but not that much fun.

I would love to know if there are any clubs in Madrid where GFE is always on the menu. Or for that matter, one of those little casas (I have been to a few, but cannot remember there names) where the girls typically are GFE.

By the way, I always did better in Scandolos in Malaga. Same selection of girls, but much friendlier.

[Member #4469]

PussyLiccker, I would advise you to speak with the girl about which services she provide because after all this is very individual but I have never been forced to pay more for CIM, Anal etc. Girls at Vive or other clubs in Spain for that matter is not very aggressive compared to FKK's, if you are unlucky you find one or two but in general they are very calm.

Age of these girls, I would say most of them are between 23-35 some are younger and a few of them older, but you should not expect lots of twenty year old girls here. I would say that the lineup at ViveMadrid is superior to both Oase, Palace and Artemis you will find both natural and girls with silicones here.

After midnight it's usually crowded with just as much men as girls but they still don't get aggressive as Berthold stated there are a lot of locals only drinking, but as said don't go there on ChampionsLeague nights because it's to much men.

ViveMadrid closes at 5 am but you could stay in the private lounges downstairs after that but it requires that you buy expensive drinks to the girls, I'm not proud about it but this has happened to me a few times ending with orgies at my hotel.

[Member #4469]

I was in Vive a few times in September / October, both on a Sunday night. It was very slow, although there were plenty of beautiful girls (and not too many men).

My only problem with Vive is that finding anything that resembles GFE is practically impossible. And, when I made it clear I wanted BBBJ, I couldn't find anyone. After three girls turned me down, I finally just gave up. My girl was quite beautiful, but not that much fun.

I would love to know if there are any clubs in Madrid where GFE is always on the menu. Or for that matter, one of those little casas (I have been to a few, but cannot remember there names) where the girls typically are GFE.

By the way, I always did better in Scandolos in Malaga. Same selection of girls, but much friendlier.Sunday's is slow at Vive, I must say I'm surprised to read that you couldn't find a girl willing to to BBBJ because I have never been with a girl at Vive who didn't provide this service! And most of them had provided me GFE as well.

I also visit Scandalos in Malaga a lot and think it's a really good club with good atmosphere and recommend it to everyone but IMHO Scandalo have never 80+ girls more like 40+ girls from Sept.-April and 60+ in the summer months, and the quality of girls in general are much higher at ViveMadrid that said there are usually 20-25 girls at Scandalo that would have made the cut at Vive. But of course we all have different taste in women.

[PussyLiccker]

It's silly of me to ask what portion do Anal as I'm sure there is nobody here that has been with every girl. My question would be, what is the percentage being turned down? Same for CIM. Just that fact that lots of them are doing CIM tells me BBBJ would be common.

[AngeelK]

During my trips to Spain, I have found very, very few Spanish girls working in the clubs I attended. There were many, many chicas from South America though. But still, the Romanians dominated. After Germany, Spain has been my second favorite destination in Europe for mongering. It's very underrated in my opinion.Spanish girls normally don't work in clubs. But just a quick look at some websites with "contact adds" and you will find lot of them but a LOT of them. The ammount of ads was too much that the website normally used for that matter opened another one just for those contact adverts. So Latinas in clubs and Spanish girls in private apartments.

[AngeelK]

I have been reading the Madrid forum and I think a lot of you pay too much. Of course if you have the money and don't mind then ok but even if I have the money but I know I can get the same thing cheaper and same quality then I go for it.

A lot of people go to clubs, normally you will pay an entry fee 10-20 and then the service would be 80 1/2 hour and double an hour. I've done that in the past but I started to check those contact adverts on the internet and boom!! It is much better than clubs at least for me.

Many people don't speak the language but that's not a problem, use google to translate the ad or just look for "English" as some of them speak it.

In my case, I have a fixation for Asian girls, of course I like my big arsed latina girl from time to time but this Asian thing I just can't get enough. So I checked some adverts and I read one that also used whatsapp.

I don't know but I prefer this rather than calling the person, maybe I'm a chickenshit at first. Whatever. With whatsapp service for those who do not speak Spanish can be good to translate the text and translate a reply with your requests.

Well I texted "hola" and continued to type some questions and I got a reply immediately "Hi. X location, X street, X Metro Line. 1/2 hour 45 1 hour 70 and then the services they provided. "Beautiful girls, real picture" (just the face). I replied I wanted 2 girls.

Ok, I went there (30 minutes) from the place I was. I found it quickly and the area was fine. A lovely Chinese lady like 26 year old opened the door and welcomed me. She said there were only 2 girls that day, there were 2 others but they were working in hotels so I would have to wait If I wanted more.

I was also offered FOR FREE whiskey, coca cola, water, beer etc. Nice touch. The girl proceeds to introduce me the girls.

First LULU, lovely Chinese around 26-27 year old nice body, nice face. I got hard immediately I saw her. Then. Can't remember the name, not great, kinda old, and I don't know just. Didn't like her but I had "ordered" 2 girls. I meant 2 at the same time.

Then I said 1 by 1 so I could get rid of the second girl by saying I was tired whatever.

Well LULU was one of the best sessions I have ever had. GFE all the way, BBBJ without asking, CIM without asking, I didn't ask for anal but I guess I could have asked for it. It was awesome.

The place it's ok, no luxury here but not bad. I felt comfortable there. I wanted more of LULU but The other girl was ready for me. Dammit I didn't like her but whatever. I said bring her!!

I got a better BBBJ with this one, I had blown a huge load with LULU so it was going to be hard to cum again plus this chick was not the best. Anyway I had another good session with the second chick.

Only bad point was some cunts arrived later and they were taking loud outside, laughing etc so I was kinda distracted.

I wanted to fuck the girl who opened the door, she said next time I go there. She is beautiful although a bit skinny.

So going back to my idea, I just spent 140 plus metro ride like 5 and enjoyed 2 girls 1 hour each! 1 coca cola and 1 bottle of water where in a club all I could have done with the same amount was 1/2 with 1 girl and the entry fee.

Also I feel more relaxed in an apartment or chalet rather than a club. Some club workers have that fucking diva attitude and all is covered, Some exceptions of course.

Anyway if you enjoy clubs and it's your thing, perfect I'm not saying is bad but you could get much more for the money you pay.

Another time I fucked this HUGE ARSED Cuban girl, a bit more expensive 100 1 hour but she was special. Also found her in those ads.

[PussyLiccker]

Sunday's is slow at Vive, I must say I'm surprised to read that you couldn't find a girl willing to to BBBJ because I have never been with a girl at Vive who didn't provide this service! And most of them had provided me GFE as well.
What are the stats as far as getting a BBBJ? Forest got refused 3 times. Sammi says 3/4 offered. Have you ever been refused BBBJ? Another punter says BBBJ is rare in Spain. Also, I've heard Anal may be charged extra.

Also, is it rare to find a girl that do half hour sessions? Most want 1 HR minimum?

What is the percentage breakdown of the girl's ages? 23-35 is a broad range.

[Member #4469]

What are the stats as far as getting a BBBJ? Forest got refused 3 times. Sammi says 3/4 offered. Have you ever been refused BBBJ? Another punter says BBBJ is rare in Spain. Also, I've heard Anal may be charged extra.

Also, is it rare to find a girl that do half hour sessions? Most want 1 HR minimum?

What is the percentage breakdown of the girl's ages? 23-35 is a broad range.I have been going to clubs in Spain for 8 years during this time I have met tons of different women, and have been declined BBBJ by two girls!! One of these girls I still meet from time to time she still don't offer BBBJ but I respect her wishes. I'm not a big anal-lover but if the girls pussy is to big I go there! If I do a qualified guess I might have done anal with twenty girls in Spain none of them have charged me extra for this service but I guess it could happen.

Half hour sessions is not a problem but I usually go for one hour because I don't want to rush and feel stressed. I would say that high percentage of the EE-girls are between 25-30 years.

[EscortInTime]

In Madrid for a day. Seeking advice.

Looking for a classy girl offering incall, which is available in the afternoon as well and which offers good service (BBBJ, maybe CIM / deep throat). A club may also be an option, but I guess Vive etc are not open in the afternoon? Any advice appreciated!Actually, in Madrid, I have tested several girls when I was lived in and now that I am traveling a lot for visiting clients.

I remember, that once, I have been in a nice apartment visiting a red hair girl that was pretty looking like the one put in the agency hot-escorts. Es (name Soraya).

She offers me a OWO very very good and let me end with a COB that I still remember after a long time.

Otherwise, this Russian escort "Lyka" (pictures attached) that is an ex striptease dancer is also offering very good services in Madrid. Sh.

[So Happy]

I have been going to clubs in Spain for 8 years during this time I have met tons of different women, and have been declined BBBJ by two girls!! One of these girls I still meet from time to time she still don't offer BBBJ but I respect her wishes. I'm not a big anal-lover but if the girls pussy is to big I go there! If I do a qualified guess I might have done anal with twenty girls in Spain none of them have charged me extra for this service but I guess it could happen.

Half hour sessions is not a problem but I usually go for one hour because I don't want to rush and feel stressed. I would say that high percentage of the EE-girls are between 25-30 years.Agree with Toxteth. I've pretty much always got BBBJ and it's best to ask before a deal is done. Maybe it helps that I'm generally courteous and respectful and not obviously unhygienic, so they feel more comfortable? Regarding anal, most EE girls prefer not to and most Latinas are happy to, but I find that it either one or the other and, if requested, I typically get it for free although some will want an extra €50 or so.

Most girls are 20 to 30 yo, although there will often be some fresh 18 and 19 yo's and some not so fresh 30 plus's. I typically go for 1 hour or more, which is much more relaxed, but if feeling particularly in the need of a quick release then half an hour suits me fine and is not a bad way to go.

[PussyLiccker]

Thanks so much for the additional information Toxeth. Also, others that has helped out.

So, I am booked for two days!

I still have some questions though, but this time regarding transportation and lodging. And, possible other places to visit.

If I'm doing Vive, and other clubs, would it make sense to rent a car? Are there parking available? Or should I do public transport? Suggestions on where to book the hotel if I want to be central to lots of clubs / casas / RLD?

Since I am doing two days, I'm looking to plan something for during the day. What do you guys suggest? I can of course check out Madrid, but I prefer to monger if possible. LOL. Are there RLD or Casas that starts up during the day?

Also, I want to check out several clubs in addition to Vive. Are there ones that open earlier?

Thanks guys,

PL.

[European Man]

Hi All,

Anybody know where are located Nigerian girls in Madrid?

Are there quartiers where is possible to reach them without the car?

Regards

[So Happy]

Thanks so much for the additional information Toxeth. Also, others that has helped out.

So, I am booked for two days!

I still have some questions though, but this time regarding transportation and lodging. And, possible other places to visit.

If I'm doing Vive, and other clubs, would it make sense to rent a car? Are there parking available? Or should I do public transport? Suggestions on where to book the hotel if I want to be central to lots of clubs / casas / RLD?

Since I am doing two days, I'm looking to plan something for during the day. What do you guys suggest? I can of course check out Madrid, but I prefer to monger if possible. LOL. Are there RLD or Casas that starts up during the day?

Also, I want to check out several clubs in addition to Vive. Are there ones that open earlier?

PL.The other worthwhile clubs are Flowers (Las Rozas, north west of the city), Factory Air (near the airport) and Estark (part of Hotel Diana Plus in an industrial area to the south of the city). Apart from the drink driving issue, I would definitely recommend a hired car as parking is easily available at all the clubs, even Vive which is near to the city centre. Check out their websites for opening times, although they are all usually about 17:00 to 05:00.

Another good use of the car is to visit the amazing SW area that I reported in previous posts. NOT to be missed and there seems to be action there 24 hours a day!

I also drove to Calle Gran Via, easily found underground parking nearby and then strolled around enjoying the tourist sights of the city and also sampling the numerous SW's that can be found on Calle de la Montera between Gran Via (MacDonald's on the corner) and Puerta del Sol. Great times, and they are there all hours of the day.

I have found the Hotel Abba Madrid to be a really good central base, well connected, next to a metro, free parking outside (not a lot, but enough) nice hotel and reasonably priced.

Enjoy and make sure that you report back.

[PussyLiccker]

So Happy, you the man! Surely look into your recommendations. Thanks.

[PussyLiccker]

So, I found this online regarding the RLD in Madrid. What kind of troubles are possible at these places?

http://www.georgethomasclark.com/?p=2489


Yes. The girls look for foreigners. They say twenty-five Euros but theyre not going upstairs for that. When theyre talking to men, their chulos (pimps) are watching, and theyll follow them and rob them if they can. Watch out for those guys. Sometimes, when the girl and the guy are in her room, shell slip him a pill with a kiss that knocks him out and when he wakes up his money, credit cards, and passport are gone.

I asked another taxi driver, Does that really happen?

It can happen, but not much. There are much tougher areas than Calle Montera. One is called Villaverde. Women are on the street twenty-four hours a day.

[So Happy]

So, I found this online regarding the RLD in Madrid. What kind of troubles are possible at these places?

http://www.georgethomasclark.com/?p=2489Calle Montera is similar to every other city centre RLD in the world where you take the girl to a nearby room or apartment; keep your eyes open, don't flash the cash or rolex, don't do anything stupid and all will be okay. There will always be a few scammers, but don't pay in advance (until you're actually in the room), etc.

Villaverde is in an industrial area outside the city centre and is truly awesome for the selection of chicas and their state of undress. Refer to my previous report. I have been there several times and only 1 hassle with a young Romanian gypsy who called her pimp at the start of the action, so the session ended quickly, but there were early warning signs that I had stupidly ignored. You basically do the business in an open parking area about 100 metres away from where they stand, which is a little surreal but also quite titillating. Highly recommended if you're into that sort of adventure.

In summary, I have found that, over the last 20 years or so, all forms of mongering in Spain are very safe and common sense avoids most problems.

If you need, I have the tel number of a stunning Romanian SW at Villaverde that reveals her magnificent breasts as she entices her clients, and also of Jordanian Nancy at Flowers (Barbie looking stunner, massively sexy) who basically gave me one of the best punts of all time. PM me if you want them.

[Solid State]

I also drove to Calle Gran Via, easily found underground parking nearby and then strolled around enjoying the tourist sights of the city and also sampling the numerous SW's that can be found on Calle de la Montera between Gran Via (MacDonald's on the corner) and Puerta del Sol. Great times, and they are there all hours of the day.I knew I was missing something on my visit to Madrid. I was driving around the industrial area in Vila Verde to the south of the city were I thought all of the girls were. I will be sure to check out the girls towards the centre on my next visit. Anywhere else I have missed guys?

[PacificRim]

Calle Montera is similar to every other city centre RLD in the world where you take the girl to a nearby room or apartment; keep your eyes open, don't flash the cash or rolex, don't do anything stupid and all will be okay. There will always be a few scammers, but don't pay in advance (until you're actually in the room), etc.

I don't want to throw a wet blanket on the party, and I generally agree with your assessment that if you're vigilant all will be well. But I had one bad experiene.

A few years back I visited a brothel up in the Gran Via area and was walking Calle Montera to Puerta del Sol and then on to my hotel. It was about 2 am, not particularly late for Madrid, and a SW was quite aggressive with me, touching me all over in what seemed like an effort to locate a wallet or the like. In the process she did locate the cash I had in my pocket. I generally don't mind this kind of pawing from a SW but as I had just left a nice session I wasn't interested in what the SW was offering. I eventually got away and melted into the crowd at Puerta del Sol. When I left to walk down a side street toward my hotel I was visciously attacked, choked and robbed. I have no direct evidence, but I'm sure the SW and the mugger were operating together. The choking nearly did me in, and greatly reduced my enthusiasm for staying in Madrid. The next morning I rented a car and left for the Rioja.

Pac.

[NicolasCool]

Hello all,

Brand new member on this site, I will be in Madrid next week for my work and I plan to go the Vive club one evening based on positive feedback I can read.

That will be my first time in such club. I have a few questions. Maybe some of you that have been already to the Vive can help answering:

- Do most girls have fake boobs? Cause I just like natural ones.

- Are they all or almost all shaved? I prefer with some hair (even if it is not a lot).

- Do they usually accept anal?

- Do they usually accept j. O. On face?

In summary, how can I find "my" perfect girl that will match criteria above (if she exists) among so many girls?

Thanks for your help!

[So Happy]

Hello all,

Brand new member on this site, I will be in Madrid next week for my work and I plan to go the Vive club one evening based on positive feedback I can read.

That will be my first time in such club. I have a few questions. Maybe some of you that have been already to the Vive can help answering:

- Do most girls have fake boobs? Cause I just like natural ones.

- Are they all or almost all shaved? I prefer with some hair (even if it is not a lot).

- Do they usually accept anal?

- Do they usually accept j. O. On face?

In summary, how can I find "my" perfect girl that will match criteria above (if she exists) among so many girls?

Thanks for your help!Never done a silicone count, but I'd guess that only about 30% have fake boobs, most are natural. You would NOT be happy at FKK Artemis in Berlin!! LOL.
They are all shaved and I would guess that a big majority (80%?) will be completely shaved i.e. no hair at all.
Most Romanians don't do anal, most Latinas will; it may involve an extra fee.
A lot will be happy for you to COF.

Finding your perfect girl is easy. Just talk to them and they will tell you what they have to offer and make a clear deal, with cost, before you cross the threshold! You do not need to be shy or reserved about it, but two good tips for a first timer. Don't tell them that it is your first time (at least not your first time to a club like Vive) and tell them that you have recently moved to Madrid. Tip 1 will make them much less inclined to try to rip you off and tip 2 will encourage good service, as they will hope that you become a regular. As they will often lie through their teeth to entice you upstairs and while they are on the job (oooh, you're the biggest that I have ever had, oooh, you are so handsome, oooh, you really know how to please a women, oooh, I've just cum for the first time here!). So you should be a little disingenuous to achieve the desired result.

Have fun and make sure that you report back.

[EscortInTime]

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[Oliver7]

Hola,

Looking for recommendations for reliable / reputable agencies for high quality outcall girls. Most of my trips to Madrid is one or two-night so I am looking for reliable, no drama girls who speak decent English and can come to an airport hotel at late night.

I saw many agencies advertise their girls as students or models and only available after 4 pm or so. What are the pros and cons of going with these "part time" providers?

Is BBBJ and / or rimming on the standard menu, or need special request?

Some hotels require key for elevator. How do people usually deal with this type of situation?

Gracias

[Oliver7]

Hola,

Looking for recommendations on reputable agencies / outcall girls. Most of my Madrid trips are 1 2 nights so I am looking for reliable, no drama, outcall ladies who can come to my airport hotel at late night.

I came across a few sites: Cristina's Secrets, the Madrid Escorts, and Perlas de Lanca. Anyone have any experience with them?

I prefer English-speaking girls with natural boobs, BBBJCM, and preferably rimming.

Gracias

[PayForIt]

Thanks so much for the additional information Toxeth. Also, others that has helped out.

So, I am booked for two days!

I still have some questions though, but this time regarding transportation and lodging. And, possible other places to visit.

If I'm doing Vive, and other clubs, would it make sense to rent a car? Are there parking available? Or should I do public transport? Suggestions on where to book the hotel if I want to be central to lots of clubs / casas / RLD?

Since I am doing two days, I'm looking to plan something for during the day. What do you guys suggest? I can of course check out Madrid, but I prefer to monger if possible. LOL. Are there RLD or Casas that starts up during the day?

Also, I want to check out several clubs in addition to Vive. Are there ones that open earlier?

Thanks guys,

PL.I've seen in the FKK forums PL that you did go to Madrid, Vive, Flowers, Factory Air etc. But I can't see your report. Have you posted one? If not, would be useful to get your feedback. As you know, I put you in touch with So Happy. Who gave you lots of info. So come on my man. Let's see the report. Thanks.

[PussyLiccker]

Thanks for all the info guys. Here is my report.

I've only done club visits, and will sequence the clubs from best to worst in terms of optics level of the girls. They were Mon and Tues visits.

1. Vive. Calle Marques De Viana 15, Madrid

In the city center of Madrid. Only drink voucher for 17 Euros entry, no foods. Restaurant on the left side of the entrance if hungry. It is indeed the largest of the clubs I've visited, and the largest LU of all the clubs. Girls are dressed. Meaning dressed in dresses (I've attaced an image of give an idea of what they typically would wear).

You will see a big yellow Vive sign outside the club. Walk through the open main entrance with the bouncer standing by, and on the left is a booth to pay for entry. 17 Euros to enter, and you will be handed a drink voucher to exchange for a drink at the bar inside the club. After paying, made my way through the doors, and low and behold a quite large interior like a big warehouse sized, high ceiling ect,. There are big screens above displaying videos. Against the wall, higher level, the stage for WGs to do a strip dance every so often. One of the girls I took seems to regularly do strip dances. In the middle are two enclosed rectangular shaped bars. Around the bar are chairs, and girls and punters mingling, and drinking. On the right there is a minibar, and next to it a vip type area with a stripper pole, and couches. On that side, there will be a line of girls sitting in chairs or standing around. Others walking around trying looking for their victims. LOL.

Most of the girls I've talked to were Moldavians, Romanians, and some Latinas from Brazil. The Latinas from Brazil were well endowed with big assets (rather large tits and big asses), very vuluptious. Some above average lookers. Good number of older types, but late 20's (around 27) seems to be the avg age. Good mix as far as the color of hair shapes and sizes. Estimate Mon 80 girls and Tues more with 100.

Everybody are wearing regular clothing (Suits, casuals, etc.), and as mentioned girls wearing dressed. Below middle to middle aged crowd. You get some idea of the silhouette of the girl as the dresses are tight around the body. The girls are not really pushy, but they are trying to get you to session so, they will do what they can to get your interest up, like touching you or dancing, grinding against you, chatting you up. I didn't get any attitude from girls for refusal.

The pricing is 100 for the girl and 10 goes to the club for a 30 min session (So, 1 HR would be twice that, 220). There is a door on the same wall as the entrance on the other side, that door leads to the lockers where girls have their things. One girl got her bag out of there. And then you follow her down, and you will find the desk where you pay 110, and the girl gets her 100. Although girls prefer 1 HR rooms, 30 min seems common. The room has a shower inside, so you can shower before the session if you haven't done so already. The girl carries a card that she must charge every time to use the lights in the room. 5 Euros to charge.

I went with two girls, and service was below avg. My standards are in comparison to all my experiences in German clubs. One girl did BBBJ, and the other CBJ. At this club, didn't ask girls for their service. Didn't attempt to negotiate.

Alisa? 27 Blond Ro sporting a blue dress. More than slim, medium build, be-cups. She dances on stage from time to time so you can know her body before taking a room. She doesn't seem to mingle with the men on Mon. Friendly, but we all know that's not a sure indicator of a good session in the room. Half hour session. Pretty standard. Minimal kissing, BBBJ ok.

Anna. Dark Brunette Ro. 27 Light skinned. Skinny, A-cups. Liked her look from a distance, but closer up, you can see she didn't look as pretty faced as I thought. CBJ, wtf. Mechanical. Not worth it.

Based on two sampling, and the mediocre sessions, the high rate is not worth it. I tried to pick the best looking ones there, and I can't call the girls real stunners as I've have seen quite a lot punting at various spots. It's the biggest and best of Madrid, but doesn't mean the LU is spectacular. Just decent.

Mon, I got there around 9 which seems too early for the day. Few girls around compared to 1 when I made my way back, and saw the large crowd of men and women.

2. Flower's. Calle Rosa de Lima, 2 28290 Las Rozas, Madrid

Located far out from the other clubs on the North West of Madrid. Saw the sign for Flower's as I got close, but didn't see an obvious sign for Flower's, but I saw an entrance way on the side of the hotel with a bouncer on the table. Didn't pay entry, and walked down the stairs. Walk down the stairs, and you see the bar at the center, twice the size of Whiskeria. Like a sports bar, with soccar game on big screens on both ends. Got a drink (I believe it's required) and sat at the bar, and Nicole approached.

Session-ed with Nicole. Blond blue eye'd girl from Valencia with another friend from the same location. She proposed anal if I session with her, so I decided to try. 75 Euros including anal and BBBJ. Mechanical, and she told me 1 finish and that's it. I finished rather quickly since I was backed up a bit, but her not being a GFE, no after sex cuddling or any of that. Pretty standard mechanical session.

The room the girl takes you to is the room she stays.

There good number a Latinas there, and all shades. There is also a Japanese girl there if Asian is your thing. Optically, it's like a smaller version of Vive. Vive just has heaps of girls in comparison. Not as many as Whiskeria at peak times. Estimate 20 girls on Tues. 75 Euros pricing for girls seems to be static as I didn't run into girls that lower the pricing like Estark Whiskeria or Factory Air.

3. Estark Whiskeria. Carretera de Villaverde a Vallecas, km. 3.5, 28053 Madrid

It's part of Hotel Diana Plus which is a big one in Madrid. You park on the left parking area infront of the hotel as you enter the gate. Walk up the stairs and you will see a flashing neon sign. Flashing Estark and Whiskeria on and off. Walk though the door, and you will see the bar, and notice the smaller spaced area. On the right of the bar, the entrance way to the rooms where girls are staying at. At first, I didn't know I was obligated to buy a drink although I saw others holding a drink until a bounder told me I buy or I leave. 9 Euros for a coke. 2 Euros for Sheets, condom if you take the girl to the room. Not quite sure, but I believe you are required to buy a drink everytime you take a girl to the room? Or was it that I didn't buy a drink so they required that I buy one before I take her up? If I'm only allowed to buy one drink, not bad. I pay 2 Euros every time as the girls lower their rate there. Girl's rate offered from 50-70 Euros.

There are older girls around 30's to young ones around 20. I saw one dressed in bikini, and others wearing dress, jean shorts, etc. With tight dresses or if she is uncovering her belly, you can get an idea if she has a belly. Belly is a big turnoff for me. Estimate Mon 15 girls, 25 Tues.

Session-ed Beatrice, 20. Black haired skinny A-cup pretty faced white skinned Romy had jean shorts, and top showing off her body. She's probably the best session of the trip, which isn't saying much. Not GFE, quite inexprienced mechanical. BBBJ, pussy sliding, DFK. Believe it or not, Beatrice was the best session of the trip! Although the rate she offered was 60, she offered 1hr 100(offered CIM if I extended), and two hrs 150. But, I had no interest in continuing the mediocre session.

4. Hotel Factory Air. Avenida Gumersindo Llorente 19, Madrid 28052

Didn't pay entry both days I visited. Like the other bars, punters sitting at the bar with drinks. Didn't buy a drink. Much larger than Estark Whiskeria or Flower's. Large warehouse sized like Vive, but smaller.

Majority seems to be Romanians. Sitting along the right wall and around the bar. The left bar side consists of the older type Latinas with Romanians on the right side. There was a girl met that claiming to be Bulgarian. Estimate about 30 girls on Tuesday night.

A older type blond lady I'd estimate around 35 yrs would come by and would try to entance me for a long time despite I could not communicate with her. She offered 50 for the room. The girls didn't attract me on both visits. Estimate Mon 20 girls, and Tues 35 girls.

4. Luxor Hotel. Avenidad Andaluca 144 - Poligono La Postura - 28343 Valdemoro, Madrid

South of Madrid. Walked in and was about the size of Flower's. 10 for entry with a drink. 5 fat girls around bar on Tuesday night. The worst LU of them all. Not doable at all. Walked out in 10 min. Estimate Tues 10 girls.

Summary

Overall, Estark Whiskeria and Flower's seems to be worth visiting for the rate and the girls there. Luxor doesn't seem worth visiting. Vive is quite expensive, and even with highest level of optics there, can't say I'd visit again as my stats were quite low as far as the services. Didn't care to sample more given the high rate.

I realized I was quite spoiled punting in Germany, and was spoiled for looks and services, and did not think Vive was club full of stunners as been said. Best LU in Madrid, yes, but I can't say I saw real stunners there to be honest.

In general, no service I've received from the girls were GFE. All were quite mechanical except two that were slightly better. BBBJ seems to be on the offer commonly, but at Vive I've run into a girl that I didn't ask prior that only does CBJ.

I'm starting to get why P46 takes place at a hotel in Madrid. The girls generally stays at the hotel. There is a shower in side to wash up.

Hotel I stayed in was Hotel Mercader which was 3 min drive from Estark Wiskeria, and was good base for several clubs that were 4-15 min in vicinity except Flower's. Nice rooms at a good rate. Pain in the ass to find as my TomTom didn't recognize the address. Also, people don't speak English so getting directions was a challenge. :(

Calle Eje 2-7 A Poligono Alimentario Mercamadrid,18 Madrid Madrid 28053.

Ideal time to start punting for me was starting at 7 pm on most places. Estark Whiskeria, Factory Air has enough girls around that time, but Flower's I believe later. And of course Vive get's going around 11 pm I believe.

Tips for those using GPS to find the places:

Luxor hotel Madrid.

Avenidad Andaluca 144 - Poligono La Postura - 28343 Valdemoro, Madrid.

The city you should put in for the above address is Valdemoro instead of Madrid. I use TomTom and as I type it would say Avendidad De Andalucia. Vive is in Madrid, so Madrid is the city you put in.

[Shark16]

Hey PL,
Thanks for a great report giving your view on the Madrid Clubs from a FKK perspective. Very interesting read.


1. Vive. Calle Marques De Viana 15, Madrid
Based on two sampling, and the mediocre sessions, the high rate is not worth it. I tried to pick the best looking ones there, and I can't call the girls real stunners as I've have seen quite a lot punting at various spots. It's the biggest and best of Madrid, but doesn't mean the LU is spectacular. Just decent.

Summary

Overall, Estark Whiskeria and Flower's seems to be worth visiting for the rate and the girls there. Luxor doesn't seem worth visiting. Vive is quite expensive, and even with highest level of optics there, can't say I'd visit again as my stats were quite low as far as the services. Didn't care to sample more given the high rate.

I realized I was quite spoiled punting in Germany, and was spoiled for looks and services, and did not think Vive was club full of stunners as been said. Best LU in Madrid, yes, but I can't say I saw real stunners there to be honest.I know PL is a tough guy to please considering his long experience with a huge number of FKK clubs through the years. There are of course a number of very clear differences between Spanish Clubs and the German FKKs as mentioned here many times (pricing structure, service standards, facilities, nudity; just to name a few). What suprises me a little is that PL found the optics / LU just "decent" and "with no real stunners to be honest". I am trying to figure out what PL really means by that. Thus the following questions:

PL,
1. What is your subjective taste in women? How would you define a "real stunner"? What were missing in Madrid? I am thinking it is limited to age group 18- 23 (24 is too old) of white caucasians and that you have no interest in latinas. Is that fair to say?

2. Ok, we have now learnt that the Madrid Clubs are nothing to write home about with just a "decent" LU and "with no real stunners". But with all due respect, this is exactly what you are saying about 90% of your FKK visits also. So, what you are really saying is that the optics at the Madrid Clubs are just as good as the FKK Clubs (but just more expensive and with poorer service standards)? Or would you say that there are FKK Clubs out there in the last year with CONSISTANTLY better LU than the Madrid Clubs? If so, which FKK Clubs?

PFI / SH / Tox/ other Madrid experts,
1. When a FKK noobie reports of terrible LU at the FKKs during Monday / Tuesday visits, all FKK regulars smile a little as we all know these days are the girls "off days" and being very poor compared to a Friday / Saturday visits. Could we say the same about the Madrid Clubs and that the outcome of PL's visit could have been different if he had made a weekend visit? Or, what do I know, maybe at another time of year?

2. Making a club visit around 5- 7pm make sense from a FKK perspective (both day and night LU being in attendance at the same time), but maybe that is the wrong way in Madrid? What is the best time to see the full LU in a Madrid Club? 11 pm? Does it matter what time in the evening you are making a visit?

Just hoping these questions can clarify and put things in the right perspective.

[Solid State]

In my limited experience of Spain the girls indeed do come out to play at night. Late at night. And as for GFE. Try the Latinas. But then I love Latinas.

[Member #4469]

Thanks for a very long report PL, sorry you seem to had a bad experience in Madrid.

I will try to answer Shark16's questions as good as I can, especially Sundays is slow at Vive and Mondays is also little more relaxed. I have never visited on a Fri-Sat due to my work so can't say if it's better lineup than say Thursday but normally Tuesday is good IMHO.

At Vive I know that some of my favorite girls don't start until midnight so I wouldn't recommend anyone to go there before 11 pm. I haven't been a frequent visiter at the other clubs for a few years so I would like someone else to comment on time to visit these clubs.

There are big differences between FKK's and "Clubs" in Spain one big thing is that in FKK's ladies are nude more or less, in Spain the girls are dressed. Second in FKK's it's relatively easy to relax between sessions in wellness areas such as swimmingpool, saunas, restaurant etc. In Spain it's often much more complicated to recuperate, but just as in FKK's when the girls recognize you as an frequent visitor they tend to leave you alone. Third, most FKK's have a expensive entrance but on the other hand you get free food, soft drinks access to saunas and swimmingpool, in Spain many clubs have free entry or small entrance with drink inc. (Barcelona excluded they are expensive) Another thing in Spain in many clubs the girls drink's are very expensive and the girls get commission on them so they frequently ask for this, could be a huge turnoff if they ask you in the room. But IMHO I think in general the girls are more aggressive and sharky in FKK's than in the better clubs in Spain.

We all have different taste in women, I like them between 20-30 years, slim with nice tits. And I love girls with latina look or even black girls so when it come down to looks I prefer going to Spain over Germany. Opposite to PussyLiccker I don't have a problem having GFE in Spain. But I would say that if you are more into EE-girls you won't find anything in Spain you can't find in FKK's in Germany.

As I wrote we all have different taste in girls, but in my book ViveMadrid have a better lineup than Artemis Berlin ever had in my visits the last seven years. I have only been to Oase once and Palace three times I thought the lineup was weak on those visits but as said only a few visits so that could have changed.

I love both FKK's and the Spanish clubs, they both have pros and cons but one does not exclude the second.

That said I will actually visit Artemis tomorrow!

[Member #4581]

Good reports PL, thanks!

[PayForIt]

Hey PL,
Thanks for a great report giving your view on the Madrid Clubs from a FKK perspective. Very interesting read.

I know PL is a tough guy to please considering his long experience with a huge number of FKK clubs through the years. There are of course a number of very clear differences between Spanish Clubs and the German FKKs as mentioned here many times (pricing structure, service standards, facilities, nudity; just to name a few). What suprises me a little is that PL found the optics / LU just "decent" and "with no real stunners to be honest". I am trying to figure out what PL really means by that. Thus the following questions:

PL,
1. What is your subjective taste in women? How would you define a "real stunner"? What were missing in Madrid? I am thinking it is limited to age group 18- 23 (24 is too old) of white caucasians and that you have no interest in latinas. Is that fair to say?

2. Ok, we have now learnt that the Madrid Clubs are nothing to write home about with just a "decent" LU and "with no real stunners". But with all due respect, this is exactly what you are saying about 90% of your FKK visits also. So, what you are really saying is that the optics at the Madrid Clubs are just as good as the FKK Clubs (but just more expensive and with poorer service standards)? Or would you say that there are FKK Clubs out there in the last year with CONSISTANTLY better LU than the Madrid Clubs? If so, which FKK Clubs?

PFI / SH / Tox/ other Madrid experts,
1. When a FKK noobie reports of terrible LU at the FKKs during Monday / Tuesday visits, all FKK regulars smile a little as we all know these days are the girls "off days" and being very poor compared to a Friday / Saturday visits. Could we say the same about the Madrid Clubs and that the outcome of PL's visit could have been different if he had made a weekend visit? Or, what do I know, maybe at another time of year?

2. Making a club visit around 5- 7pm make sense from a FKK perspective (both day and night LU being in attendance at the same time), but maybe that is the wrong way in Madrid? What is the best time to see the full LU in a Madrid Club? 11 pm? Does it matter what time in the evening you are making a visit?

Just hoping these questions can clarify and put things in the right perspective.Thanks for the report PL. I echo the point made that its a shame you didn't enjoy Madrid. A couple of points and my own two cents on the questions posed here by Shark16;.

1. LU in the big Spanish clubs on Sundays, Mondays and Tuesdays is often very weak. I've been to Vive on a Sunday and the LU was still excellent and far better than decent. But these things fluctuate wildly. In February 2015 I was in FKK Sharks and thought the LU was amazing (on a Friday) - went again in June and the LU was extremely poor and of perhaps 70 girls I really struggled to find one I wanted to session with. A first for me in an FKK. I went back three weeks ago on a Sunday and the LU was very good! Same in other FKKs and Spanish clubs. The LU in Scandalos in Malaga (So Happy and I are regulars) on Sundays. Mondays and to a lesser extent Tuesdays can be grim, but Thursdays Fridays and Saturdays are usually excellent and I can say from personal experience that the LU in Vive and Factory Air (and Club Hot. Not mentioned in FL report) have been really good on weekends. I have never struggled with LU on a Friday or Saturday in any Spanish club. I am surprised at the comments about Vive. Every time I have been the LU has been better than in any club I've ever been to in the World including Maladys Palace in Puerto Banus, Thailand, Dubai, Las Vegas, and the FKKs. In summary - "off days" are the same in Spanish clubs as they are in FKKs. This may have explained why PL saw some poor LUs.

2. I won't list them all again. But Spanish clubs v FKK clubs. They are SO different. You go to a Spanish club to see some beautiful women dressed in sexy clothes, have a few beers and have sex. It is a nightime activity. FKK is a much broader experience, food, relax, swim, gym (Artemis), sauna, professional massage, watch sport, play sport (Oase! Sunbathe, eat, have sex, rest, eat, have sex, rest, etc. I prefer the FKK "experience" and I love being surrounded by a lot of naked women. Though I've increasingly found myself going on dessous nights. I really like girls in sexy lingerie and I do feel that being in the presence of 100 naked women for 8-10 hours causes the excitement of it die off. I know that sounds crazy but its true. There is just no mystery. Sure being in clubs with girls in dresses has the moments of disappointment with some saggy tits, but it also has the real excitement of watching the girl undress. You never get that in an FKK.

3. Time of day. You don't go to a Spanish club for sex at 7 pm. The LU will be very weak. You have to remember that in Spain people don't eat dinner until normally 9 or 10 pm or even later. A lot of the girls will eat before working and don't even think about getting into the club to earn money before 10 pm. Those who work early in the evening tend to be the less attractive girls who think they will catch the early worm mongers before the attractive girls pour into the bar later and their competition becomes too great. Again, this would explain some poor LUs for PL. Attending a Spanish club at 7 pm on a Sunday or Monday would most definitely produce weak LUs nearly everywhere in Spain. And in Frankfurt maybe with the odd exception e,g, Sharks. I've been to Oase, Artemis, Mainhattan and Living Room on Sunday nights and they have all been poor.

Truth is that this is a very close call. I have a trip to plan in February and I cannot decide whether to do Malaga or Germany. If there was a very clear favorite one way or the other I wouldn't need to ponder it. For me, whilst I prefer the experience of FKKs I think Spain is a much better country to be in than Germany, not least for the weather. You do also get Latinas in Spain. But very rarely in FKKs where 90% are EEs. I like both but I also like to have a choice / variety. Spain gives that but Germany doesn't. To each their own. It's clear that PL won't be heading back to Madrid any time soon. But if you ask So Happy and Paul Scotland (both regular punters in Spain who I encouraged to try FKKs) they will I believe say that they much prefer Spain to what they saw in Berlin. It's just a question of taste. And maybe the right approach is to appreciate they are very different. You will get good and bad LUs in both countries from time to time. I still maintain that in general the LU in Vive is probably the best I've ever seen. And I think it every time I go.

[Member #4469]

Very good explanation PFI much better than mine I must say. We seem to enjoy the same places!

[PayForIt]

Very good explanation PFI much better than mine I must say. We seem to enjoy the same places!Not sure about the explanation. I've done this comparison a few times now but it's just so different IMHO and I'm not sure either is better than the other! I recall messaging you ages ago thinking you were from Liverpool but discovering you are not even from the UK! Still we should meet up for a beer or three and a few ladies.

[Member #4469]

Not sure about the explanation. I've done this comparison a few times now but it's just so different IMHO and I'm not sure either is better than the other! I recall messaging you ages ago thinking you were from Liverpool but discovering you are not even from the UK! Still we should meet up for a beer or three and a few ladies.I totally agree with you it's almost impossible to choose one over the other I like the ambience at the FKK's but as you write in Spain you get Latinas and mostly good weather as a Swede the weather is not completely insignificant when selecting destination!! I just came back to my hotel room after visiting Artemis today!

I also agree that we should meet for beers and ladies, PM me if you plan a trip to Germany the coming months.

[PussyLiccker]

Hey PL,
Thanks for a great report giving your view on the Madrid Clubs from a FKK perspective. Very interesting read.

I know PL is a tough guy to please considering his long experience with a huge number of FKK clubs through the years. There are of course a number of very clear differences between Spanish Clubs and the German FKKs as mentioned here many times (pricing structure, service standards, facilities, nudity; just to name a few). What suprises me a little is that PL found the optics / LU just "decent" and "with no real stunners to be honest". I am trying to figure out what PL really means by that. Thus the following questions:

PL,
1. What is your subjective taste in women? How would you define a "real stunner"? What were missing in Madrid? I am thinking it is limited to age group 18- 23 (24 is too old) of white caucasians and that you have no interest in latinas. Is that fair to say?

I may come off a bit strict when it comes to rating optics. I have only met hand full of stunners in all my years(3.5 years) punting in Germany. Calling a girl stunning is relative.

I will give out nationalities and age and descriptions of the stunners I've met which will give an idea of my taste. These are my top 4 stunners met in FKKs.

1. Light blond German with blue eyes, 173, slim with curves. Very Nordic looking. Fit perfectly of what I imagine as Nordic blond German.

2. Auburn blue eye'd Russian heritage, German national, tanned, Cee cup silicones, 170.

3. Cassandra. DE(Oase fall 2012), classy wavy(big wave, not small curly) brunette hair, 173, slim with curves. Amazingly hot.

4. Deanna. Hun(Oase Spring 2012), Brunette, perfect body(not skinny or thin), just right, 173.


I would expect everybody in general is looking for somebody attractive. People either pay more attention to body or face. Who looks pretty many not be for some others. But, there is no denying that some girls are more commonly regarded as pretty. Whether it be their body being of the right silhouette and/or having a highly appealing face. You get a better sense your taste, and difference from others when run into those that have different ideals in female optics.

When I say pretty face, it's not so meaningful since what I find pretty may not be for the next guy. I certainly understand when people say pretty out of excitement that cannot be contained. LOL. I say knock out if I spot a beauty that I lock on to like a target as soon as I lay eyes on her. Like I'm Maverick from TopGun ready to pull the trigger. Haha. Those moments are priceless, and the greatest for me. When it happens one after another, it's a great day indeed.

My ideal: Color hair doesn't matter, and I guess I may steer toward blonds if looking authentic. Face is of course has most weight, but eyes particularly is the most important facial feature for me. Noticeable contrast from pupils to iris of the eyes typically blue or green eyes have, but not always. Height tall preferred like 173-180. Bees to Cee cups, but Bee+ seems to be not too excessive or lacking. Feminine hips, not bony, so fat gathered around there that naturally happens to females. So, when I say curvy, meaning rounded around the hips. And ass should be ample, not excessive with curvature on the hips and ass in sync. And flat declined pelvis area or caving in as going down which pushes the ass back a bit(or angled). Slim overall besides of course the hips and the ass where the curvature features lie. Doesn't matter hue of the skin, tanned or not as long as not a albino. LOL. Oh yeah, not teeny or excessively GND looking, but under 25.

I've attached an image of an ideal blond girl. Candice Swanepoel. Kate Upton.

Some names others may recognize from German clubs(not what I call stunners, but pretty to very pretty):

Francesca Ro (Sharks)
Evita Ro (Sharks)
Kenza Pol (GT)
Jane Rus (GT)
Lori Ro (Oase)

I'm not an Artemis guy currently compared to the past. Or a Palace guy. Like I've stated above my ideal age. I've run into good looking girls of all nationalities. Since over abundance of Ro, small percentage are to my liking.

2. Ok, we have now learnt that the Madrid Clubs are nothing to write home about with just a "decent" LU and "with no real stunners". But with all due respect, this is exactly what you are saying about 90% of your FKK visits also. So, what you are really saying is that the optics at the Madrid Clubs are just as good as the FKK Clubs (but just more expensive and with poorer service standards)? Or would you say that there are FKK Clubs out there in the last year with CONSISTANTLY better LU than the Madrid Clubs? If so, which FKK Clubs?

Decent meaning, the place doesn't have girls I would define as stunners. Like I've said, few stunners met over years of punting. My expections weren't realistic. As far as the mix, it's favorable for somebody looking for Latinas into the mix. The Ro, Bul, Mol girls I've witnessed there weren't in the high looks to make the place particularly worth visiting in comparison to say an FKK club full of nude girls. There is a high risk given that the girls are dressed, and the rate being double. Pick the wrong girl, you lose out double the rate. 2 girls sampled, and both not even optically up there to be worth it, and that's discounting the mediocre service. At least at Globe, the girls are under-dressed and service is more guaranteed.

Typically, I tend to rate LU higher on clubs that I've never visited before since the LU is new to me. I've never visited Vibe before.

1. When a FKK noobie reports of terrible LU at the FKKs during Monday / Tuesday visits, all FKK regulars smile a little as we all know these days are the girls "off days" and being very poor compared to a Friday / Saturday visits. Could we say the same about the Madrid Clubs and that the outcome of PL's visit could have been different if he had made a weekend visit? Or, what do I know, maybe at another time of year?

This is what I was told by others that weekend could have 200 girls(but, this info was came from the club)? It was obvious Monday was slow, but Tuesday picked up. I picked Mon and Tues since it's a slow day in Germany, and based on what I gathered, I didn't expect that much of a difference, but in reality we all know based on experiences right?

2. Making a club visit around 5- 7pm make sense from a FKK perspective (both day and night LU being in attendance at the same time), but maybe that is the wrong way in Madrid? What is the best time to see the full LU in a Madrid Club? 11 pm? Does it matter what time in the evening you are making a visit?

I started around 7pm, but I moved around, and visited back and forth. That means I check out later in the night too. I have stated on my report that Vive starts later. Estark isn't bad earlier on. Factory Air has more girls, but doesn't mean the quality is more either.

Just hoping these questions can clarify and put things in the right perspective.What I've written is a report. It's my experiences in Madrid. Another's experience can be different. It answered all my questions that I've had, and providing that info. We all have different taste in women in looks and age brackets, and what we consider stunners. So, I'm bringing a perspective to this thread about the clubs in Madrid.

Just add some insight, my first German club visit coming out of Madrid, I thought the LU was super. LOL.

I was meaning to write something more in deph, but I get ADD when I have to write for so long. LOL. I like to post burst of posts instead of one big report. Simpler to organize my thought.

[Shark16]

PL,
Thanks a lot for the answers. All clear now. Not my intention to make an interrogation here, but you being the prominent reporter in the FKK threads as you are I am sure your Spain visit has sparkled some interest among FKK regulars. Thus I thought a few questions to be appropriate to get the full picture.

I fully respect that guys look for different things in a girl. Personally I guess I am known for a broader taste (I appreciate variation / GFE comes in different shapes and forms), not to mention a latina addiction. It helps. And I too can certainly appreciate the thrill of undressing a beautiful girl. Not to say skipping that part and get right down to business. ;)

And to the regulars of the Madrid scene: I still have Madrid / Malaga on my todo-list, so please keep those good reports coming!

[SeanTheGame]

Folks,

I'm traveling to Madrid and Barcelona soon.

I genuinely apologize in advance – some of the questions that I'm looking for answers to are probably answered somewhere in these threads, hope I can be excused for my laziness to go through the threads. I'm a complete dummy when it comes to 'FKK' culture. I just want to know.

- What are the good strip clubs in Madrid (standard strip clubs) – by good I mean a relaxed comfortable atmosphere and not overly pushy, the best ladies and cost of course.

- What is the brothel / private house scene like? Any places you can recommend? I can dig through the threads then.

- what is the independent / agency escort scene like – any good agencies / private escorts you can recommend.

Would be looking for GFE in my encounters. Huge fan of that, and don't want to be spending more than what you'd spend in the UK.

Thanks for any feedback in advance.

[SeanTheGame]

Folks,

I'm traveling to Madrid and Barcelona soon.

I genuinely apologize in advance – some of the questions that I'm looking for answers to are probably answered somewhere in these threads, hope I can be excused for my laziness to go through the threads. I'm a complete dummy when it comes to 'FKK' culture. I just want to know.

- What are the good strip clubs in Madrid (standard strip clubs) – by good I mean a relaxed comfortable atmosphere and not overly pushy, the best ladies and cost of course.

- What is the brothel / private house scene like? Any places you can recommend? I can dig through the threads then.

- what is the independent / agency escort scene like – any good agencies / private escorts you can recommend.

Would be looking for GFE in my encounters. Huge fan of that, and don't want to be spending more than what you'd spend in the UK.

Thanks for any feedback in advance.


PL,
Thanks a lot for the answers. All clear now. Not my intention to make an interrogation here, but you being the prominent reporter in the FKK threads as you are I am sure your Spain visit has sparkled some interest among FKK regulars. Thus I thought a few questions to be appropriate to get the full picture.

I fully respect that guys look for different things in a girl. Personally I guess I am known for a broader taste (I appreciate variation / GFE comes in different shapes and forms), not to mention a latina addiction. It helps. And I too can certainly appreciate the thrill of undressing a beautiful girl. Not to say skipping that part and get right down to business. ;)

And to the regulars of the Madrid scene: I still have Madrid / Malaga on my todo-list, so please keep those good reports coming!

[Alex7J]

Thanks for all the info guys. Here is my report.

I've only done club visits, and will sequence the clubs from best to worst in terms of optics level of the girls. They were Mon and Tues visits.

1. Vive. Calle Marques De Viana 15, Madrid

Avenidad Andaluca 144 - Poligono La Postura - 28343 Valdemoro, Madrid.

The city you should put in for the above address is Valdemoro instead of Madrid. I use TomTom and as I type it would say Avendidad De Andalucia. Vive is in Madrid, so Madrid is the city you put in.Great Report PL:

It is detailed yet brief. One of the best FR's on clubs of Madrid. Should be put in the ROD section. This is the best way anyone should write about a particular city's clubs or FKK or MP's.

All together in one FR.

Cheers man, you are the best.

Ciao.

Alex

[Zero76]

My preferences in Madrid: Vive Madrid: Marques de Viana / Air Factory: Avenida Gumersindo Llorente 19 / Pigmalion: Pinar 6.

If you want more clubs, "Night Club Spain" brothel's guide in Google play, its amazing.

[Sonelko]

My preferences in Madrid: Vive Madrid: Marques de Viana / Air Factory: Avenida Gumersindo Llorente 19 / Pigmalion: Pinar 6.

If you want more clubs, "Night Club Spain" brothel's guide in Google play, its amazing.Seriously? I'm Spanish and tired of places like Vive Madrid. Its overpriced. 100 eur for 30 minutes. The rooms are fantastic. Yes. But you pay the local itself. Very big. Like a disco. But the level of the girls does not go with the asking price. And it's I think 18 euros for the entry. To get the drink inside.

The Pigmaleon is one of the best clubs in Madrid. High level girls. Beautiful ones. They charge you 20 euros for the drink. And the girls are not allowed to approach you unless you call them over. There are no rooms on the premises. So you have to go either to their apartment or your place. Prices range from 300 to 500 eur. Its best to go a bit late before closing. So you van negotiate better.

When I have time I will give full reviews on the best clubs.

There are some 50 eur. Clubs that are very good in quality and don't charge 10 eur extra for the sheets like flowers. Or factory air.

[So Happy]

Seriously? I'm Spanish and tired of places like Vive Madrid. Its overpriced. 100 eur for 30 minutes. The rooms are fantastic. Yes. But you pay the local itself. Very big. Like a disco. But the level of the girls does not go with the asking price. And it's I think 18 euros for the entry. To get the drink inside.

The Pigmaleon is one of the best clubs in Madrid. High level girls. Beautiful ones. They charge you 20 euros for the drink. And the girls are not allowed to approach you unless you call them over. There are no rooms on the premises. So you have to go either to their apartment or your place. Prices range from 300 to 500 eur. Its best to go a bit late before closing. So you van negotiate better.

When I have time I will give full reviews on the best clubs.

There are some 50 eur. Clubs that are very good in quality and don't charge 10 eur extra for the sheets like flowers. Or factory air.Sonelko, I suggest that you add value to the forum (your 3 posts to date ask questions and provide no useful information other than a reference to Pigmaleon in Madrid, and even that is suspect!) before you criticise other reports. Yes, Vive is generally regarded as being the best club in Madrid with a huge amount of talent, albeit it is more expensive than the others, but that has been reported on several times, it is the punters choice and most would disagree with you regarding the level of quality and cost. You criticise the €100 price at Vive and then proceed to say that Pigmaleon costs €300 to €500! Do you realise how stupid that is without further explanation?

If there are clubs in Madrid that are better that Vive, Flowers, Factory Air and Diana Plus, then please report on your actual visit experiences before making any more worthless comments.

[PussyLiccker]

Agreed. Makes no sense. If people read this thread, they will know which club has the most girls, and regarded highly in terms of the lineup. Vive has the highest number of girls (200 max on weekend (so I've been told, people would have to confirm) although expect less beginning of the week(about 100 is my guess on my visit Mon Tues). That's the main draw for boys and for girls is the high rate, but other clubs much smaller number of lineup), but the rate is higher than the other clubs. 110 per half hour opposed negotiable rates at other clubs like Whiskeria Estark or Factory Air, etc. Vive's and Flower's rate seem static (110 and 75 respectively). Whiskeria and Factory Air, you can get as low as 50, and possible a young one could propose that rate, with anal even. I had a girl at Whiskeria propose 60 for half hour, and then 100 for an hour, and 150 for 2 hours. So, she was getting cheaper and cheaper for longer rooms. This 2 HR proposal happened after my 30 min was up, so perhaps if the girl finds your company not so terrible, she may cheapen up the rate. Just a guess.

If people are looking to get a low rate proposals from girls, I'd personally recommend Whiskeria over Factory Air. IMO quality of girls at Flower's is better with higher rate (75) than both where you can get low balled offers (low as 50), but like any other clubs, the lineup is much smaller than Vive. So, Vive's advantage is quite large number of choices of ladies, but the negative is the high rate.

[Sonelko]

I'm not criticizing the money spent. But the fact that in my opinion what they charge must go along or correspond to the level of the girls. I paid up to 400 eur in Pigmalon because I believe that the girl I go with is "worth that" because of beauty. Etc.

What you can't deny is that in vive there are many girls that are not better (or even worst) than a girl at the Diana plus (or stark) and asks for the double the are worth.

I hope you understand me this time.

I'm going to flowers tomorrow night. I will let you know what I find.

[DexterLaster]

I visited Madrid in July 2015. Visited an independent incall girl (100 euros / hour) an Asian house (40 euros /30 min but did not partake, girls were few and not that hot) and city center / gran via "stripclub"/ brothel (negotiated 110 euros for 45 minutes) and Estark, 10 miles from the city center (50-60 euros /30 minutes). I'll make a more comprehensible write-up later, but after all was said and done, for my money, Estark at Diana plus hands down won me over. Taxi is about 15-20 euros from the city center. The most I was quoted by any girl was 60 euros (most were 50) on the weekend, didn't attack me like the Gran Via Place, drinks were cheaper too, and condom / towels was only like 2 more euros. I liked it was the girls' rooms so no one was pounding on the door after 30 minutes. And there were enough 8-8. 5's to be absolutely content for a few days visits and multiple sessions. Mostly Romanian girls, a few Moldavian and south American chicas. If you don't care about spending double+ at the city center brothel / clubs, then go there, they're quickly accessible from you hotel / airbnb condo in case you got stuff to do or maybe your limited on time, you're not "stuck" out from the city center like with Estark if you want to do lunches or whatever between sessions, and they have much bigger selections from more countries (had a Nicki Minaj looking Jamaican in one of the center clubs). But ultimately for more money than it's worth for me given I got the time and focused on the P4P stuff primarily and I just rather do two 8. 5's than one 9 for the same money.

[LukeSkyWanker]

Paid another visit to the above, it was 19:30 on a Saturday evening. I didn't partake in any activity as it was dark and much quieter than last year but there must have been 20-30 ladies plying their trade. I think 99% were from Romania or Moldavia area, actually could hear a couple talking whilst stopped at a red light which confirmed my suspicions. It was really strange to see several of the ladies had made camp fires out of all the rubbish around to keep warm, these were just at the side of the road near where thay stood maybe they are helping to clean the area up in a funny sort of way. I will try to return during daylight hours and have a better look.

May the force be with you.

[So Happy]

Paid another visit to the above, it was 19:30 on a Saturday evening. I didn't partake in any activity as it was dark and much quieter than last year but there must have been 20-30 ladies plying their trade. I think 99% were from Romania or Moldavia area, actually could hear a couple talking whilst stopped at a red light which confirmed my suspicions. It was really strange to see several of the ladies had made camp fires out of all the rubbish around to keep warm, these were just at the side of the road near where thay stood maybe they are helping to clean the area up in a funny sort of way. I will try to return during daylight hours and have a better look.

May the force be with you.Yip, pretty much all Romanians when I was last there. It's my favorite SW area in Spain, or elsewhere, by far.

Great to see that our hobby has environmental benefits as well. Nice to do some good in the community by facilitating the rubbish being collected and burnt.

[Ibrahimovic]

Flower's: Went there on a Friday night. Used the commuters train service called Cercanias. It was a half hour train ride from Chamartin to a station called Las Matas. Very easy to find from the train station. It was just to use the pedestrian overpass to cross the highway and then a short walk. Entered through the stairs with the sign "Caf espectaculo". Seemed to be Russian staff. With some very appreciated help from "So Happy" I arranged to meet blonde Nancy from Jordan at 7 pm. She was waiting for me in the bar at arrival. Maybe 10 visitors and 25 girls at this time. Nancy is blonde, Desperate Housewives-look and was just wearing a bikini whereas most other girls wore dresses. Nancy is a little bit too much on the MILF side to be perfect for me but still very pretty. Speaks virtually no english so communication was lacking. However I am very happy that I made the arrangement to see her. The service she provides is absolutely top class. Superb BBBJ technique with smooth swirly hand movements to assist. Rimming and anal without me even asking for it. One of the best I've ever met.

Went down to the bar to relax with another drink but was set to make an early exit. Had a strange encounter with a petite little Spanish girl who looked like maybe 19-20. She tried to play on her young innocent appearance. "Accidently" let her hand touch mine as she gave up a very obvious theatrical face. Almost made me laugh out loud and felt sorry for her. Made a move to the other side of the bar and met a crazy Brazilian girl who probably would have been wild in bed but didn't have the looks to make the cut. Was ready to leave when Romanian Roxana walked by in a black backless evening dress. Jet black hair and beautiful eyes, easily the most attractive girl in the club for my taste. Her body was not so bad either, quite tight and fit. Average session with a pretty relaxed attitude at least. I didn't find the optical quality to be on par with Vive but it wasn't bad either. Good club for some pastime for an early evening before going to Vive if one can muster the energy to head out there.

Made visits to Vive on the adjacent nights. Hade high expectations from reading this board and was not disappointed. I would say that the usual 4-5 hot prospects of a regular FKK night fell short in comparison of the maybe 10-15 close to stunners that could be seen during a night here. I am biased though since I adore latinas and usually don't feel so attracted to eastern europeans. Didn't think I would enjoy the general experience of Vive that much but it was quite nice with the party atmosphere. Big longdrinks and the sheer number of hot girls to mingle with made the time between sessions surprisingly enjoyable for a single visitor like me. The layout of the place with the bars and the abscence of couches makes the girls approachable in a different way than in FKK.

First night I couldn't resist to go with Italian Sariya (big implants, big pouty lips and curly strawberry blonde hair. Should have changed my mind since the initial conversation in the bar was dry. The service was very lackluster, the girl looked kind of boored and barely moved. Next up was Brazilian Rosa, dark skinned and big ass. This girl was the opposite of Sariya, she grabbed me by the hand and pulled med all the way to the small bar by the entrance. I was kind of charmed by her enthusiasm and didn't mind buying her a drink. Then off to the room where we spent an hour listening to music, chatting and some rather crazy sex. Probably the most passionate DFK I've come across. A little bit too much goofing around for the session to be perfect. But enjoyed the spontaneous and natural feeling. She even invited one of the chamber maids (a madurita) in to the room for a little chatting when delivering extra condoms and drinks. Felt somewhat stupid lying on the bed with a hard on as she entered.

Next night gave me the chance to be with one of the most stunning girls I've ever sessioned with. Sandra from Mexico, a tiny bit resembling Salma Hayek to give an idea. Very thin and fit. Above average in her accomodating attitude. Soft nice kissing and a little bit of BBBJ was offered. Overall a good time greatly elevated by the beauty of the girl. A few hours later I spotted Colombian mulatta Katrini. Very pretty face with great smile and eyes. A little bit on the voluptuous side body wise with a nice big ass and natural tits. The session was just about average but very enjoyable to do doggy with. Stayed to closing time and really wanted to go with a blonde porn star type from Brazil who had just made a strip show. But she only wanted to agree on a one hour session. Witch I'd gladly would have accepted if I hadn't been in a rush to get to the airport. So opted instead for Cristal from Bulgaria, mainly because her ass looked amazing in her chess checkered pants. I can only imagine that a half hour session at 5 am wouldn't generally bring a girl's A game. But Cristal gave an energetic BJ and could really take a pounding. Also good DFK. In summary I'd say that the service level for me was on par with the big FKK clubs like Oase and Artemis. Less BBBJ but better DFK. The optic level might swing me towards Madrid and Vive on my next outing but the wellness in Germany will be sorely missed.

[Cob123]

Had a great time viewing last few pages!

Visiting Madrid for the first time and among the many fantasies I have, I really really want to have a lesbian show in my room / any room. Any information or any club I can visit? I did send an email to apparently 2 girls Camila and Samanta who wrote that they can meet in Atoch or can come in my hotel for 50 Euro plus cab fare. Any experiences? There for only a day so please help!

Please PM me and do get in touch in case any of you visits India!

Cheers!

[DexterLaster]

Had a great time viewing last few pages!

Visiting Madrid for the first time and among the many fantasies I have, I really really want to have a lesbian show in my room / any room. Any information or any club I can visit? I did send an email to apparently 2 girls Camila and Samanta who wrote that they can meet in Atoch or can come in my hotel for 50 Euro plus cab fare. Any experiences? There for only a day so please help!

Please PM me and do get in touch in case any of you visits India!

Cheers!Incidentally the first chick that approached me at Estark as soon as I walked in was an attractive (7. 5-8) Moldavian that started rubbing her butt on me and suggested I take her and her friend both upstairs (50 euros each for the 30 min and that's for regular sex session so not sure if lesbian show was available. But I personally rather ravage them than watch them LOL). So might be worth hitting one of the many mentioned clubs like Estark, air or flowers and see if you can find a pair of friends, worse case you get to do a hot Romanian.

[JHS 42]

I'm traveling on work and have basically just one evening in Madrid. Anybody got any thoughts on what the best options that would be readily accessible from the city center would be?

[Mongerer88]

I'm traveling on work and have basically just one evening in Madrid. Anybody got any thoughts on what the best options that would be readily accessible from the city center would be?http://www.rusasvip.com/inicio-escorts-rusas-vip.html

http://www.afroditaescorts.es/escorts-en/

http://www.escortpormadrid.com

http://madrid.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-young-english-escort-who-loves-anal/6059902

I have been doing a lot of Madrid research for an upcoming trip, so this might help you, and help me too, if others have actual experiences.

The Russian place, which has incall near a mall, as well as outcall for an additional fee, has some reviews. Diana and Yulia have excellent reviews on the Spanish Spalumi site. You have to be careful with that Spalumi review site since it has a million pop up ads and redirect Trojans. Natasha has a very good review on an American review site. The reviews of a number of the other girls at that place are not as good. I called and the madam speaks a bit of Engish.

I would definitely like to see Gabriela at afrodia based on her pictures and service offerings. There are no reviews of her, but the reviews on Spalumi of some now retired girls are okay. They just indicate that a bit of photoshopping occurred. I got a good response from the agency when I emailed them. I emailed in both English and Spanish using google translate and the response was in English. Their incall appears to be in an excellent central neighborhood.

It is disappointing that so few reviews exist for escortpormadrid, since it is a massive operation. I am interested in seeing LuLu based on her pics and video. I emailed them in English and Spanish and got a cheerful response in Spanish that I translated back to English using Google translate. They probably speak some English, though, since their site has a lot of English.

Lastly, this backpage girl has been advertising forever, and she responded quickly and nicely when I sent her a whatsapp message.

Once again, I have not seen any of them, but this is my planning list. It might be of use to you, and of course any reviews or practical experience input is appreciated.

[Zozimus]

I have just come back from a few days in Madrid so here is my report.

Places I went to:

Chicas Atocha, Calle de Murcia No. 28, Semisotano A (it's buzzer number 1).

http://www.chicasatocha.com/

A short walk from the Atocha metro station. I went on Saturday afternoon and they had a reasonable quality line-up of 5 girls. The service was fine and it was €80 for an hour. It wouldn't be my first choice of casa to visit in Madrid but I would happily return if in the area.

Chicas7 VIPs, Calle Amaniel 7 B.

http://www.chicas7vips.com/

Not far from the Plaza De Espana or Noviciado metro stations. This is a 24 hour place with a handful of girls during the day but about 10 at night. The quality of the girls was very good and I picked a lovely little Venezuelan and the service was great. The normal price here is €90 for an hour but between 10 am and 9 pm it's only €70. Excellent value for money. I would happily return here too, in fact I already have.

EvenOnce, Calle Moscatelar No. 20.

http://www.evenonce.es/escorts-y-putas-en-madrid

A few minutes walk from the Arturo Soria metro station. I wanted to visit this one as I have been to their Valencia branch many times and just fancied seeing what their Madrid set up was like. It's a nice place with an equally good line-up. It was very had to make a selection but I eventually picked a gorgeous Brazilian who did not disappoint in the room. A bit pricey at €130 for an hour but I would be happy to return.

PlacerMadrid, Calle Leon Bonnat No. 11.

http://www.placermadrid.es/

Close to the O'Donnell metro station. This place is only open during the day and is closed on Sundays. I went in early afternoon and the line-up was pretty good. There were a couple of girls who were a bit long in the tooth for me but still plenty that I found attractive to choose from. I had another little Venezuelan hottie and again had a great time. The price was €90 for an hour. Yes, I would return.

VIP66 Atocha, Calle Atocha No. 66,1st floor, flat B.

Right next to the Anton Martin metro station. I went to this one in early afternoon and there were 3 girls available. 2 really weren't to my taste at all and the 3rd was a bit older than I would normally go for but I thought "why not?" so I did and I'm very glad I did! She was an up-for-anything latina MILF. A fantastic hour for €80. I would go back there, but only if she was working.

I had intended to try at least one of the clubs that have been recommended on here but I just never got round to it. I think I'm more of a daytime monger anyway really. By midnight I want to be in bed rather than a club!

[PayForIt]

I have just come back from a few days in Madrid so here is my report.

Places I went to:

Chicas Atocha, Calle de Murcia No. 28, Semisotano A (it's buzzer number 1).

http://www.chicasatocha.com/

A short walk from the Atocha metro station. I went on Saturday afternoon and they had a reasonable quality line-up of 5 girls. The service was fine and it was 80 for an hour. It wouldn't be my first choice of casa to visit in Madrid but I would happily return if in the area.

Chicas7 VIPs, Calle Amaniel 7 B.

http://www.chicas7vips.com/

Not far from the Plaza De Espana or Noviciado metro stations. This is a 24 hour place with a handful of girls during the day but about 10 at night. The quality of the girls was very good and I picked a lovely little Venezuelan and the service was great. The normal price here is 90 for an hour but between 10 am and 9 pm it's only 70. Excellent value for money. I would happily return here too, in fact I already have.

EvenOnce, Calle Moscatelar No. 20.

http://www.evenonce.es/escorts-y-putas-en-madrid

A few minutes walk from the Arturo Soria metro station. I wanted to visit this one as I have been to their Valencia branch many times and just fancied seeing what their Madrid set up was like. It's a nice place with an equally good line-up. It was very had to make a selection but I eventually picked a gorgeous Brazilian who did not disappoint in the room. A bit pricey at 130 for an hour but I would be happy to return.

PlacerMadrid, Calle Leon Bonnat No. 11.

http://www.placermadrid.es/

Close to the O'Donnell metro station. This place is only open during the day and is closed on Sundays. I went in early afternoon and the line-up was pretty good. There were a couple of girls who were a bit long in the tooth for me but still plenty that I found attractive to choose from. I had another little Venezuelan hottie and again had a great time. The price was 90 for an hour. Yes, I would return.

VIP66 Atocha, Calle Atocha No. 66,1st floor, flat B.

Right next to the Anton Martin metro station. I went to this one in early afternoon and there were 3 girls available. 2 really weren't to my taste at all and the 3rd was a bit older than I would normally go for but I thought "why not?" so I did and I'm very glad I did! She was an up-for-anything latina MILF. A fantastic hour for 80. I would go back there, but only if she was working.

I had intended to try at least one of the clubs that have been recommended on here but I just never got round to it. I think I'm more of a daytime monger anyway really. By midnight I want to be in bed rather than a club!Just wanted to congratulate you on a terrific and very useful report which will be of considerable assistance to mongers visiting Madrid. Exactly the sort of report that makes these forums worthwhile. Well done and thanks for taking the trouble to report so comprehensively.

[Mongerer88]

Thanks Zozimus.

I will use chicas7 as my backup if my current plans fall through.

Can you let us know which Venezuelans you recommend there? Several of the girls on the website are listed as Venezuelans.

Also, if I am interpreting correctly (I don't speak Spanish and I did not load it into Chrome), BBBJ is extra and I guess CIM is even more extra. The website lists anal, but nine of the ladies on the website seem to include it as a service offering.

May I ask what was standard and what were upsells in the room?

[Zozimus]

Thanks Zozimus.

I will use chicas7 as my backup if my current plans fall through.

Can you let us know which Venezuelans you recommend there? Several of the girls on the website are listed as Venezuelans.

Also, if I am interpreting correctly (I don't speak Spanish and I did not load it into Chrome), BBBJ is extra and I guess CIM is even more extra. The website lists anal, but nine of the ladies on the website seem to include it as a service offering.

May I ask what was standard and what were upsells in the room?In Chicas7 I would recommend Sara. She reminded me of a latina Lara Lewington. If you do pick her you will be happy to find that she's learning English and is keen to practice it with native speakers when she can. The second time I went there I had a Cuban girl who's name I can't remember. She wasn't as good but still wasn't bad.

BBBJ didn't cost me extra in any of the places I went to in Madrid.

The only upselling that was attempted was in EvenOnce and all that consisted of was asking if I wanted a normal room or one with a jacuzzi. A normal one was good enough for me, especially as it had a mirrored ceiling.

[Mongerer88]

Thanks again. If Yulia at Rusavips is not working the night I plan to see her, I will definitely see Sara at chicas7.

In one of the old ads I found, it indicated that her shift was 2-9. Was that the time frame you saw her in?


In Chicas7 I would recommend Sara. She reminded me of a latina Lara Lewington. If you do pick her you will be happy to find that she's learning English and is keen to practice it with native speakers when she can. The second time I went there I had a Cuban girl who's name I can't remember. She wasn't as good but still wasn't bad.

BBBJ didn't cost me extra in any of the places I went to in Madrid.

The only upselling that was attempted was in EvenOnce and all that consisted of was asking if I wanted a normal room or one with a jacuzzi. A normal one was good enough for me, especially as it had a mirrored ceiling.

[Zozimus]

Thanks again. If Yulia at Rusavips is not working the night I plan to see her, I will definitely see Sara at chicas7.

In one of the old ads I found, it indicated that her shift was 2-9. Was that the time frame you saw her in?I think it was about 1230 when I went so I would guess she isn't on that shift anymore.

[John166]

Good morning,

I have been in Madrid a few days during February, when I go why like enjoy enjoy sex with Spanish girls.

Between call girls I met, I recommend:

Sandra.

http://www.sensmodels.com/escortsmadrid/sandra610-635197547 ,

Sandra is a Spanish girl with Latin features, I think is Latin and Spanish mix, but very involved in bed. Young, beautiful, she adapted to all that I asked. According to the Ad, she offers anal sex, but I did not ask for it.

Isabella.

http://www.nuevoloquo.com/escort/madrid/isabella-gatita-tatuada-y-tu-putita/201588/

She is a Spanish girl with tattoos, he came to my hotel for 180 euros, enjoys sex and makes you enjoy, big tits, nice body.

I hope to return soon to Spain to continue testing girls here.

[JHS 42]

Thank you all for your very informative posts and comments--I think I'm going to enjoy my free hours in Madrid!

[Paddy]

Will be in Madrid for the first time in a few weeks. Have RTFF and can find no references to clubs, pubs or hotel lobbies where working girls gather to hustle clients and you then take them back to your apartment. I was hoping to find something like Gallery in Lisbon where working girls assemble to meet possible customers and then back to his apartment. I prefer this type of venue so I can select a girl, interview them, establish what type of services I want, etc. In a city as large as Madrid this type of venue must exist somewhere. I have no interest in the street scene for various reasons.

You thoughts and recommendations are much appreciated.

Paddy.

[Alex7J]

Will be in Madrid for the first time in a few weeks. Have RTFF and can find no references to clubs, pubs or hotel lobbies where working girls gather to hustle clients and you then take them back to your apartment. I was hoping to find something like Gallery in Lisbon where working girls assemble to meet possible customers and then back to his apartment. I prefer this type of venue so I can select a girl, interview them, establish what type of services I want, etc. In a city as large as Madrid this type of venue must exist somewhere. I have no interest in the street scene for various reasons.

You thoughts and recommendations are much appreciated.

Paddy.Vive: Factory Air: Flowers: Estark: Madrid is full of hooker places, you just need to fuck at these places or if you can form a bond with the ladies they can also go to your place in the night.

Read back some posts I have replied to one post someone has even posted about the strip or club scene in Madrid also.

Cheers: Happy hunting.

[So Happy]

Will be in Madrid for the first time in a few weeks. Have RTFF and can find no references to clubs, pubs or hotel lobbies where working girls gather to hustle clients and you then take them back to your apartment. I was hoping to find something like Gallery in Lisbon where working girls assemble to meet possible customers and then back to his apartment. I prefer this type of venue so I can select a girl, interview them, establish what type of services I want, etc. In a city as large as Madrid this type of venue must exist somewhere. I have no interest in the street scene for various reasons.

You thoughts and recommendations are much appreciated.

Paddy.Hi Paddy.

I've stayed in over 100 hotels in Spain over the years and have only come across one WG in a hotel lobby at Puerta Banus, so I am very sure that this is NOT the way that they hustle for business. Anyway, that is what the clubs are for, and there at least 4 really good ones in Madrid where you can conduct your interviews and often they will be willing to go back to your hotel or apartment.

Happy to be proved wrong, so please let us know if you have any luck and find a WG friendly hotel lobby!

[Paddy]

Many thanks to Alex and So Happy for your advice. OK, I get it now.

Will hit the clubs and try to establish a "bond" with a good performer and offer to meet her outside the club on her off day. I know that there are rules at the clubs prohibiting this but I found that in Prague at least quite a few girls actually suggested this to me. They did not seem to care about such rules and had little or no actual loyalty to the clubs they worked at. Also, the prospect of not having to split half their money with the club was a pretty compelling offer that few could resist. I suspect that this would also work in Madrid but I'm just guessing. Your thoughts?

[PayForIt]

Had a night in Madrid this week and instead of heading back to Vive (my favorite in Madrid but SO expensive) or the other clubs I've been to and reported on (Hot, Factory) I decided to cab it to Estark opposite Diana Plus hotel. 13 euros in a cab from central Madrid. Small club but for a midweek night I was very pleased with the LU. 7 or 8 girls I could have selected easily. I'd say 30 girls in total and maybe 20 guys. No entry fee, drinks reasonably priced. Big plus was room rates. Lowest I was offered was 50 euros for each 30 minutes but a few wanted 60/60. Ended up selecting a pretty blonde Hungarian Ana. Body 7/10 but face 9/10 and service 9/10. Great attitude, educated, good english and up for almost anything. Had 2 hours with her and well worth every penny. I enjoyed the atmosphere in the club. Girls were not overly pushy and the rooms were very good. Overall good experience and would repeat when next in Madrid.

[JHS 42]

Well, I took the advice and tried Chicas 7 VIPs, and I was not disappointed.

I kind of had my heart set on the Latin Lana Lewington, so I was disappointed to find Sara wasn't there. There were two girls working when I went (I think it was around 7 pm), a black girl whose name I forget who spoke some English, and Andrea, who did not, but was much warmer in personality, so I went with her. The "Andrea" on the website is from Venezuela not Paraguay, and is missing her tattoo, but she does look and sound fairly similar, in a touched up sort of way.

The woman who answered the door acted as though she didn't know what I was talking about with the discount before 8 pm, but Andrea reminded her, after which she grudgingly went with it. I went with an hour (70 euros).

Honestly one of my very best experiences. Sweet, friendly, great kisser, great oral and manual technique. Very much GFE. Did not charge for BBBJ (as previously mentioned) but did require 50 euros for CIM. Went two rounds during the hour, even though hadn't even intended it (I generally just feel like relaxing and not putting pressure on myself), but after relaxing and talking a while (she REALLY doesn't speak English, barely a word, but my Spanish is okay), she went for it again, so I went with it. I noticed in the end they gave us more like an hour and 20 minutes.

Anyway, great experience--thanks for the information.

[PussyLiccker]

Had a night in Madrid this week and instead of heading back to Vive (my favorite in Madrid but SO expensive) or the other clubs I've been to and reported on (Hot, Factory) I decided to cab it to Estark opposite Diana Plus hotel. 13 euros in a cab from central Madrid. Small club but for a midweek night I was very pleased with the LU. 7 or 8 girls I could have selected easily. I'd say 30 girls in total and maybe 20 guys. No entry fee, drinks reasonably priced. Big plus was room rates. Lowest I was offered was 50 euros for each 30 minutes but a few wanted 60/60. Ended up selecting a pretty blonde Hungarian Ana. Body 7/10 but face 9/10 and service 9/10. Great attitude, educated, good english and up for almost anything. Had 2 hours with her and well worth every penny. I enjoyed the atmosphere in the club. Girls were not overly pushy and the rooms were very good. Overall good experience and would repeat when next in Madrid.Yeah, it's the best option in terms of pricing for the types of girls you'd find there. No stunners for me, but for the pricing friendly young types and enough avg to slightly better looking types. My one and only service there the standard was better than other clubs. Girls don't look glamorous like Vive probably due to the way they dress, etc. , but it is the smallest spaced bar that the girls are friendly enough, and rates pretty reasonable. If you like long rooms, finding a good provider, and extending makes this place very much worth visiting since they can give you a good deal on extended room after the first half hour. I got proposed 150 for 2 hours which is good. So, if you can't be sure if long room is worth it, find a girl that proposes reduced rates for extended room, do a half hour first, and either she will propose even more reduction in lengthier room time, or you can suggest it.

It starts out early hours too which is a plus. So, it's a good option for those eager to head out early. The providers reside in their rooms so perhaps during the daytime, there could be some girl available as well?

I am sure you'd have a good time at Aca.

[PayForIt]

Yeah, it's the best option in terms of pricing for the types of girls you'd find there. No stunners for me, but for the pricing friendly young types and enough avg to slightly better looking types. My one and only service there the standard was better than other clubs. Girls don't look glamorous like Vive probably due to the way they dress, etc. , but it is the smallest spaced bar that the girls are friendly enough, and rates pretty reasonable. If you like long rooms, finding a good provider, and extending makes this place very much worth visiting since they can give you a good deal on extended room after the first half hour. I got proposed 150 for 2 hours which is good. So, if you can't be sure if long room is worth it, find a girl that proposes reduced rates for extended room, do a half hour first, and either she will propose even more reduction in lengthier room time, or you can suggest it.

It starts out early hours too which is a plus. So, it's a good option for those eager to head out early. The providers reside in their rooms so perhaps during the daytime, there could be some girl available as well?

I am sure you'd have a good time at Aca.I'll definitely be going to ACA in April (for those wondering as we are in the Madrid forum here this is FKK ACA / Velbert in NRW area of Germany. I've been asking for some assistance in club selection there for a trip coming up in April. I'm assuming you made the connection PL because of room residency by the girls and early starts?

I certainly think room residency helps create a better session. Girls often have sexy lingerie in their own room, more toys, and I think they feel more comfortable with familiar surroundings. That was definitely the case here at Estark and I've seen the same at Aladin on the Costa del Sol and also Glass Palace (where the rooms are the best in Spain for me). As you say, none of the Vive glamour. But then when you can get a girl still 8 out of 10 (and there were some at Estark with bodies 10/10) for the same price for 2 or 3 hours as you'd pay for a stunner in Vive for an hour, its not much contest. The girls don't need to work hard in the rooms in Vive either. They know that not many punters are going to extend to 2 hours for 440 euros. There will be the odd one but not many. So all in all, Estark is a good option in Madrid even if the club is very small.

[JayJay28]

Hi,

I need some advice for Madrid and maybe someone can answer my questions or can give me good advice. For business reasons I will stay for 2 nights in Madrid in the beginning of April and therefore looking for some fun in madrid to avoid boring evenings in the hotel. I'm looking just for some ordinary sex (nothing special or pervert) as I will get it also in Germany within the FKK- or Sauna-Clubs. BTW. I'm from Germany. Kissing, french natural, 69 with licking and probably fingering and I'm satisfied. Price for an hour should 150 not exceed. Any "must-see" or "must-do" or "-must-try" advices for that?

As a good preparion I worked my way through this forum but some questions from my side remain unanswered. Currently I see probably 3 options for me which seem to be fine.

1.) Estark bar within the Hotel Diana Plus.

2.) Streetworking girls at Calle de la Montera.

3.) slumi.com.

1.) Estark bar within the Hotel Diana Plus: From the reports here in the forum I think I have an idea how it will work. But it is located outside the city (I'm staying somewhere in the area of the Bernabeu Stadium). On google maps I see a bus stop from a Madrid bus line in the near of the hotel. Is there a good connection via the public transportations? Maybe by train, metro and / or bus? Or is this way not recommended. If so, why? Other point is: The drinks in the bar are described as not expensive. I guess it is common that you have to buy the woman a drink if you like to chat a bit with her and try to make a "deal". What will they normally order and what will this cost? Instead of spending 30 or 50 for a drink I would like to spend the money more to the girl. Any price-information about the drinks in that bar?

2.) Streetworking girls at Calle de la Montera: I read that there are also some good-looking girls working in that street. Some write that they are looking to good for working on the street. How to contact them without the risk to approach a "normal" girl which probably will slap me then. Any signs not to misunderstood? Do I have to approach them or will they make the "first step"? And of course where will we have sex? Is it done on the street (probably in a dark corner) or do they have a hotel room? What might be the usual price for 1 hour? And is it possible that they will come with me to my hotel? Is this common or may I get problems with the hotel reception?

3.) slumi.com : I found this side as it was mentioned here in some reports. Is it trustable or have someone any experiences with booking theses girls? On this site I found 2 interesting profiles:

- http://www.slumi.com/escort-brasile%C3%B1a-con-mezcla-japonesa-realizo-una-atencion-diferenciada-soy-cari%C3%B1osa-y-completa-id-hckmg.

- http://www.slumi.com/lika-una-escort-rusa-bella-sexy-y-atractiva-en-madrid-id-9qdgh.

Any other recommendations?

Thanks in advance for helping me out. Personal message is also acepted.

Best regards.

JJ.

[HunterGather]

2.) Street Working girls at Calle de la Montera.

2.) Streetworking girls at Calle de la Montera: I read that there are also some good-looking girls working in that street. Some write that they are looking to good for working on the street. How to contact them without the risk to approach a "normal" girl which probably will slap me then. Any signs not to misunderstood? Do I have to approach them or will they make the "first step"? And of course where will we have sex? Is it done on the street (probably in a dark corner) or do they have a hotel room? What might be the usual price for 1 hour? And is it possible that they will come with me to my hotel? Is this common or may I get problems with the hotel reception?I was going to post this report anyhow but it answers your second question:

I was flying through Madrid for business and had a long layover. Figured I could wander the town and monger a little to help pass the time (about 8 hours). I walked around town, saw the park Retiro, the palace, museums, then figured it was time to check out the other side I'd heard so much about Madrid. Went to Calle Montera:

You will know a girl is a working girl because she will be standing still on the street, not talking on a phone, in high heels, activate looking at men. Most likely she'll be along the sides on the street, possibly leaning against a building. She will most likely be wearing tight clothes and have some cleavage showing. When I was just there all the SW were among the northern end of the street. There's a Macdonalds there, grab a coffee and walk yourself down the street. Walk along the sides where the ladies are. If you slow down by a girl you like she will most likely immediately proposition you.

My report: Noon on a Saturday: I chose a brunette Eastern European looking girl (turn out to be from Romania). She immediately said, "oral sex" when I approached. I imagine she read my mind because I was actually only looking to get a quick BJ then head to a larger joking (chickas 7 - more on that later). I asked how much and she said 30 euro and I asked if it was with a condom she said "yes condom. " Damn, well she was definitely my type so I asked where. 8/10 body, (short and tight) 7/10 face. She said nearby. I took her okay and she started walking down the street a little bit and turned to a side street from Montera. I followed behind and honestly a TWO minute walk later (less than 100 m from where she was standing guard) she entered an apartment building. I followed behind her up the stairs and got the 30 euros out while she was in front of me (don't flash cash in this kind of place). Led to an apartment with several rooms each with a bidet. She said 5 euros for the room. I didn't put up any issue about the upsell, I know worst case I'm only going to be out 35. The rest of my money was cached on me. She English was poor and when I inquired about the condom again I think she thought I was asking for full sex. "Yes sex condom. " Was pretty much what she was responding with. We ended up just having sex LOL for the 35 euros. She rode me like a champ. Cleaned herself in the bidet before and after the deed. I think in retrospect she was saying "oral sex" as in oral and / or sex. I don't know if I would've gotten the BBBJ I was looking for by just saying "oral. " I left happy and would repeat. Just keep your wits about you there, don't flash cash and make the girl feel safe and she'll do likewise if she is well intentioned.

My question for why'all: I then had some lunch and wanted to go to chicas 7. I put the address in Google maps, walked fucking laps around that block. I found a door with the number 7 on it (address is 7 B). I rang number 7 and an old hag answered, I said sorry in Spanish and walked away. I saw a 7 B but it was on a window (behind metal bars). I felt like a moron and was running out of time to go catch my flight before I could mess with the situation much longer and left. Is chicas7 some fucking Harry Potter shit where I need to run full speed at the 7 B window? The old hag actually the bouncer? And help would be appreciated.

Stay safe.

[MarkMark19]

Hi,

I visited Madrid recently, I met three girls, I was lucky because I liked every meeting, but with some differences:

Sara.

http://www.sensmodels.com/escortsmadrid/sara573-628100944-en

She is a Spanish escort, whit Latin blood, nice tits, very involved in bed, very beautiful. I liked meeting her because I did have a good time in bed, very active in sex. A bit expensive, but I enjoyed her.

Aitana.

http://www.photoescorts.com/aitana-escort-madrid-13632

She is a Spanish woman, with big tunned tits, also very involved in bed. She accepts all kinds of positions and their natural blow job is very hot.

Juliana.

http://www.slumi.com/guapisima-brasile%C3%B1a-con-pechos-naturales-de-la-120-id-9muhb

She is a Brazilian escort, I prefer two previous girls than her, hes body is not so nice than Sara and Aitana, but being Brazilian knows how to behave in bed with men.

[Zozimus]

My question for why'all: I then had some lunch and wanted to go to chicas 7. I put the address in Google maps, walked fucking laps around that block. I found a door with the number 7 on it (address is 7 B). I rang number 7 and an old hag answered, I said sorry in Spanish and walked away. I saw a 7 B but it was on a window (behind metal bars). I felt like a moron and was running out of time to go catch my flight before I could mess with the situation much longer and left. Is chicas7 some fucking Harry Potter shit where I need to run full speed at the 7 B window? The old hag actually the bouncer? And help would be appreciated.

Stay safe.If you look at the contact info on their website http://www.chicas7vips.com/contacto/ you will see they have included a picture of their door. It's sort of on the end of a row of houses that all seem to be covered by the number 7. Go to these co-ordinates and you will be standing right in front of it. 40.425477, -3.709235.

[So Happy]

Hi,

As a good preparion I worked my way through this forum but some questions from my side remain unanswered. Currently I see probably 3 options for me which seem to be fine.

1.) Estark bar within the Hotel Diana Plus.
2.) Streetworking girls at Calle de la Montera.
3.) slumi.com.

1.) Estark bar within the Hotel Diana Plus: From the reports here in the forum I think I have an idea how it will work. But it is located outside the city (I'm staying somewhere in the area of the Bernabeu Stadium). On google maps I see a bus stop from a Madrid bus line in the near of the hotel. Is there a good connection via the public transportations? Maybe by train, metro and / or bus? Or is this way not recommended. If so, why? Other point is: The drinks in the bar are described as not expensive. I guess it is common that you have to buy the woman a drink if you like to chat a bit with her and try to make a "deal". What will they normally order and what will this cost? Instead of spending 30 or 50 for a drink I would like to spend the money more to the girl. Any price-information about the drinks in that bar?

2.) Streetworking girls at Calle de la Montera: I read that there are also some good-looking girls working in that street. Some write that they are looking to good for working on the street. How to contact them without the risk to approach a "normal" girl which probably will slap me then. Any signs not to misunderstood? Do I have to approach them or will they make the "first step"? And of course where will we have sex? Is it done on the street (probably in a dark corner) or do they have a hotel room? What might be the usual price for 1 hour? And is it possible that they will come with me to my hotel? Is this common or may I get problems with the hotel reception?

3.) slumi.com : I found this side as it was mentioned here in some reports. Is it trustable or have someone any experiences with booking theses girls?

Any other recommendations?

Thanks in advance for helping me out. Personal message is also accepted.Estark: Best taxi or own car. Difficult to get there on public transport. Also consider Factory Air (near the airport) as it has a bigger bar. Drinks 7 to 10 each; I never buy for the girls and tell them that money is for sex upstairs, and they are always happy with that and will usually stay and chat for as long as you want. Say "mi dinero es para jiggy-jiggy arriba" and you will normally get a laugh and acceptance.

SWs at Montera: as per Hunter Gatherer's report; trust me, you'll know she's a WG; most hotels are WG friendly.

Slumi dot com: I have also found passion dot com to be a very good source.

Have fun and remember to report back!

[JayJay28]

Estark: Best taxi or own car. Difficult to get there on public transport. Also consider Factory Air (near the airport) as it has a bigger bar. Drinks 7 to 10 each; I never buy for the girls and tell them that money is for sex upstairs, and they are always happy with that and will usually stay and chat for as long as you want. Say "mi dinero es para jiggy-jiggy arriba" and you will normally get a laugh and acceptance.Thanks for the informations. Considerung going to Factory Air instead of Estark: What is the advantgae of Factory Air compared to Estark? Only the bigger bar? I guess Factory Air will cost entrance fee?

[PayForIt]

Thanks for the informations. Considerung going to Factory Air instead of Estark: What is the advantgae of Factory Air compared to Estark? Only the bigger bar? I guess Factory Air will cost entrance fee?I don't recall an entrance fee at Factory but if there is one you'll get a ticket for a drink at the bar for your fee. The advantage of FA is it's close to the airport if you are flying in / don't want the hassle of a minimum 30 euro cab into Madrid centre and want to fly out the next day. The other advantage is that the bar is not only bigger but very long. Think of a horse racecourse (not that long of course) but in shape. Two long straights and two tight bends! The result is that you can freely have a walk around the club to make selections. The downside of FA and where Estark wins is on line up. The last 2 times I've been to FA the LU has been thin on the ground. In contrast I went to Estark for the first time last week (see post below) and the LU was quite impressive with several I would have been happy to take. But its a small space and you have to be happy with very publicly refusing the girls. Both are worth a punt. It cost me 13 euros from central Madrid to Estark. It's sort of South East of Madrid and FA is north east. You could go to FA and if it wasn't great get a cab to Estark but I'd check the cab prices in advance as I don't know the distance (try it on google maps). Enjoy and as So Happy said. Be sure to report back.

[John166]

Estark: Best taxi or own car. I like Stark, I've recently gone and recommended it, but you're right, the worst is that there is not public transport, so I went by taxi.

[PussyLiccker]

I don't recall an entrance fee at Factory but if there is one you'll get a ticket for a drink at the bar for your fee. The advantage of FA is it's close to the airport if you are flying in / don't want the hassle of a minimum 30 euro cab into Madrid centre and want to fly out the next day. The other advantage is that the bar is not only bigger but very long. Think of a horse racecourse (not that long of course) but in shape. Two long straights and two tight bends! The result is that you can freely have a walk around the club to make selections. The downside of FA and where Estark wins is on line up. The last 2 times I've been to FA the LU has been thin on the ground. In contrast I went to Estark for the first time last week (see post below) and the LU was quite impressive with several I would have been happy to take. But its a small space and you have to be happy with very publicly refusing the girls. Both are worth a punt. It cost me 13 euros from central Madrid to Estark. It's sort of South East of Madrid and FA is north east. You could go to FA and if it wasn't great get a cab to Estark but I'd check the cab prices in advance as I don't know the distance (try it on google maps). Enjoy and as So Happy said. Be sure to report back.Yeah, that's my take as well. Both you can negotiate, or girls offer lower rates. I dunno if Estark is day dependent club like Vive (for the big LU). My interests were on the Romies there, and it seems both clubs Latinas are on the older side (could be a generalization though). Even an older girl I met at FA, that clung to me for good long duration, albeit no interest from me (this had to do with early night hours during the week not many customers). Proposed 50 Euros. Not much business to be had for the girls on Mon and Tues. There are the younger Romies to the right, but they had what I'd describe as more gypsy lookin types.

The thing about is the girl claimed Czech, and another girl claimed Bul. A girl told me don't believe the bullshit, majority of the girls at FA are Romies. This is common with Romies trying to distinguish themselves as other nationalities due to their varying looks, and a punters that limited in language abilities. One girl that bullshitted me as Bul at FA I was surprised. I thought she was early 20's, and I find out she's like 30. To me, Romies really surprise me on their age. I'm wondering how many Romies I've met thus far that are older, but tells me younger age. They seem to age well.

Overall, FA and Esark share similarities on that, you got low-ballers, young Romies, enough girls starts during the early night. But, like PFI says, Estark has more of an edge when it comes to the LU, and perhaps he went on a better day than I did. I understand Romies tend to work regularly (most days), and take 1 day off during the week if they do. Differences are like PFI points out like the name. Much larger like a bar in a Factory. I recall the long bar on the right, and on that side against the wall, several Romies are present and more later at night, and not aggressive at all. Just that Estark is a compact space that you are a short distance from the girls for girls to market themselves, and easier view since all are close proximity which I think is the positive. Did not pay entrance at FA, but dunno if they require a drink if you take a girl up. I had a car so I checked out FA several times throughout the night since I paid no entry.

[GlynneJones]

Visiting Madrid and need more details on Club Vive please. The address tel no etc.

Why does it say on website it is closed? Is it now closed or still open?

Any details on girls place and prices and tips would be great.

Glynne

[GlynneJones]

Is Vive still open as on Google it says its closed? Please can you help with this or any more details on club vive please?

Thank you.


Thanks for all the info guys. Here is my report.

I've only done club visits, and will sequence the clubs from best to worst in terms of optics level of the girls. They were Mon and Tues visits.

1. Vive. Calle Marques De Viana 15, Madrid

In the city center of Madrid. Only drink voucher for 17 Euros entry, no foods. Restaurant on the left side of the entrance if hungry. It is indeed the largest of the clubs I've visited, and the largest LU of all the clubs. Girls are dressed. Meaning dressed in dresses (I've attached an image of give an idea of what they typically would wear).

You will see a big yellow Vive sign outside the club. Walk through the open main entrance with the bouncer standing by, and on the left is a booth to pay for entry. 17 Euros to enter, and you will be handed a drink voucher to exchange for a drink at the bar inside the club. After paying, made my way through the doors, and low and behold a quite large interior like a big warehouse sized, high ceiling ect,. There are big screens above displaying videos. Against the wall, higher level, the stage for WGs to do a strip dance every so often. One of the girls I took seems to regularly do strip dances. In the middle are two enclosed rectangular shaped bars. Around the bar are chairs, and girls and punters mingling, and drinking. On the right there is a minibar, and next to it a vip type area with a stripper pole, and couches. On that side, there will be a line of girls sitting in chairs or standing around...

[Mongerer88]

Is Vive still open as on Google it says its closed? Please can you help with this or any more details on club vive please?

Thank you.While it would be nice to have a current field report, what probably has happened is that several people who disapprove of prostitution have clicked the button on Google indicating that the place is closed, when in fact it is not. The management does not follow Google search results, so they are unable to notify Google of what has happened.

If this is true, and I strongly suspect that it is, since Vive is a very popular club and its closure would hit the Spanish media, you might want to keep this in mind if you visit Asia. When a girl requests a large tip for water buffalo who is in animal hospital, the water buffalo may not in fact be sick. The sex industry has a lot of dirty tricks and untruthfulness.

In bothering to research this, I did note that a line 1 metro stop is nearby. I doubt that I will go to Vive since I have been gathering information on other sex sources, but in case I do, can someone tell me what the walk is like from the line 1 metro to Vive? If might help the new guy, also.

[Enphl]

Looking for advice. I'll be visiting Madrid for two days (then Barcelona for 3).

- I only speak English so I am worried this may be an issue.

- I'm interested in petite slim or athletic toned girls with a nice face. I don't care about having big boobs or bum. I just don't like flabby.

- I'd like to keep it around 110 EUR +/- 20 but def under 170 EUR for 30 min.

- Ideally I'd like this not to take too much time and be able to take the subway.

- I probably want to be doing this sometime in the early afternoon so that may be a factor if I goto a brothel.

- I definitely don't want a "club" like place where I need to waste money and time buying drinks.

So I'd appreciate any advice.

I could see an independent. That would require alot of time researching the right girl. Then attempting to contact her and hoping it doesn't fall thru or I don't get robbed.

I like Brothel type places because I am just introduced to some girls, pick the girl I want and it'll def happen at least. The risk is just that you don't know if the girl will be good and may have to pay a fee to get in without knowing what the selection is like.

[PussyLiccker]

If you got that high of budget, try Vive, the places has heaps of girls at the rate of 110 per 30 min. Also visit Estark and compare. See if which of two clubs, the rate and the lineup is worth more. For the guys on tighter budget, Estark is the good option, otherwise, looser budget, Vive is advantageous since the lineup of girls are many times greater than other venues.

Both of these places are venues with working girls. Bar/Club type atmosphere. So that means large number of girls present that you can interact with, and then choose which you like to do business with. I think these types of places are advantageous since you can assess many girls on the spot before choosing. Although perhaps, high end escort type places may have the higher end girls, but expenses could be higher, and you may not know exactly what are going to get. A bit of a risk in who may show up or if the girl is represented well on the images.

So, these venues like Vive or Estark are work a look, and also it's safer for the WGs, and no risk from punters from getting swindled(or robbed) besides the risk of a bad provider. Since there are so many girls around, if you the session wasn't great, you can choose another girl right there. Those are the advantages for club/bar venues.

Out of various club visits, I didn't get much push for drinks, and never have bought drinks for girls. It's probably likely the high rollers at Vive to buy drinks for the girls. I think, you buy them a drink, and they stick around a bit is how it works. Some guys may prefer more to spend a lot of time in the bar than in the room. The girls are there to work so you got to drop some money on either a drink or session, to get more time with the girl would make more sense.

These venues in Spain gets going later at night as mentioned earlier. So, you'd probably call them "night" clubs. Estark starts out earlier, but Vive don't get going until like 11.

You will have to do some research on how to get to these places.

[PayForIt]

If you got that high of budget, try Vive, the places has heaps of girls at the rate of 110 per 30 min. Also visit Estark and compare. See if which of two clubs, the rate and the lineup is worth more. For the guys on tighter budget, Estark is the good option, otherwise, looser budget, Vive is advantageous since the lineup of girls are many times greater than other venues.

Both of these places are venues with working girls. Bar/Club type atmosphere. So that means large number of girls present that you can interact with, and then choose which you like to do business with. I think these types of places are advantageous since you can assess many girls on the spot before choosing. Although perhaps, high end escort type places may have the higher end girls, but expenses could be higher, and you may not know exactly what are going to get. A bit of a risk in who may show up or if the girl is represented well on the images.

So, these venues like Vive or Estark are work a look, and also it's safer for the WGs, and no risk from punters from getting swindled(or robbed) besides the risk of a bad provider. Since there are so many girls around, if you the session wasn't great, you can choose another girl right there. Those are the advantages for club/bar venues.

Out of various club visits, I didn't get much push for drinks, and never have bought drinks for girls. It's probably likely the high rollers at Vive to buy drinks for the girls. I think, you buy them a drink, and they stick around a bit is how it works. Some guys may prefer more to spend a lot of time in the bar than in the room. The girls are there to work so you got to drop some money on either a drink or session, to get more time with the girl would make more sense.

These venues in Spain gets going later at night as mentioned earlier. So, you'd probably call them "night" clubs. Estark starts out earlier, but Vive don't get going until like 11.

You will have to do some research on how to get to these places.Hi PL. Have read your excellent previous posts and summary http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?788-Madrid&p=1807678&viewfull=1#post1807678 which I believe is a must read for anyone going to any of the clubs in Madrid.

I'm there again this week. Went to Estark based on your previous report. Really enjoyed it. But the last remaining club I've not been to in Madrid is flowers and from reading your post and those previously of So Happy about the wonderful Nancy from Jordan I'm tempted. Only downside is that it looks miles and miles outside of the city. I normally go by public transport. I can see the Las Rozas train station there. But can you tell me if you'd stay locally to it or stay in the centre and travel out and finally would you bother with Flowers compared to say Estark?

Cheers.

[Enphl]

...

These venues in Spain gets going later at night as mentioned earlier. So, you'd probably call them "night" clubs. Estark starts out earlier, but Vive don't get going until like 11.

You will have to do some research on how to get to these places.

Yes, I agree that a club sounds like a good idea. However, for various reasons, I prefer to try to have my sessions in the afternoon (ie 3-4 pm). I wonder if this will be an issue going to Vive or Estark. I think I can get to Vive pretty easily since there's a subway stop near there.

[So Happy]

Hi PL. Have read your excellent previous posts and summary http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?788-Madrid&p=1807678&viewfull=1#post1807678 which I believe is a must read for anyone going to any of the clubs in Madrid.

I'm there again this week. Went to Estark based on your previous report. Really enjoyed it. But the last remaining club I've not been to in Madrid is flowers and from reading your post and those previously of So Happy about the wonderful Nancy from Jordan I'm tempted. Only downside is that it looks miles and miles outside of the city. I normally go by public transport. I can see the Las Rozas train station there. But can you tell me if you'd stay locally to it or stay in the centre and travel out and finally would you bother with Flowers compared to say Estark?

Cheers.It's very difficult to compare the quality of the punting experience in Estark and Flowers. Estark is much smaller and great fun, but some think it too cramped and slightly claustrophobic, whereas Flowers is bigger and maybe more relaxed. Talent levels are about the same with probably more girls at Flowers, but this can vary form night to night. I would try both, but of course I would not miss Flowers and the heavenly delights of Nancy.

[EddyTheEagle2]

Hi PL. Have read your excellent previous posts and summary http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?788-Madrid&p=1807678&viewfull=1#post1807678 which I believe is a must read for anyone going to any of the clubs in Madrid.

I'm there again this week. Went to Estark based on your previous report. Really enjoyed it. But the last remaining club I've not been to in Madrid is flowers and from reading your post and those previously of So Happy about the wonderful Nancy from Jordan I'm tempted. Only downside is that it looks miles and miles outside of the city. I normally go by public transport. I can see the Las Rozas train station there. But can you tell me if you'd stay locally to it or stay in the centre and travel out and finally would you bother with Flowers compared to say Estark?

Cheers.I've some experience with Flowers as well. I travel by train to Las Matas and stay in hotel ("Plaza Las Matas") next to the railway-station and SuperSol (E 50 - E 60 a night. You can bring a girl (from Flowers?) if you like). Flowers is 300 meters at the other side of the highway so very easy to reach: no problem about drinking / driving. And next to the hotel is a "German" bar / restaurant with attractive waitresses and good food!

Have fun.

[PayForIt]

It's very difficult to compare the quality of the punting experience in Estark and Flowers. Estark is much smaller and great fun, but some think it too cramped and slightly claustrophobic, whereas Flowers is bigger and maybe more relaxed. Talent levels are about the same with probably more girls at Flowers, but this can vary form night to night. I would try both, but of course I would not miss Flowers and the heavenly delights of Nancy.Thanks as ever. Hope to get to sample Nancy. Hey. I'll be following one of yours for a change! Don't know if you ever got to Jessica (Brazillian blonde at Vive I was with last summer) but she had the best body I've had in a club. Despite constantly looking at herself in a mirror. Got a couple of nights coming up in Madrid and hope to get to Flowers though it looks like car hire is a must given the nightmare on trains, cabs etc.

People very rarely now report on Factory Air or Hot Dreams. I wonder how they survive if they are not getting punters. Maybe Madrid punters just don't post! Bit like London. Hopeless forum IMHO!

Will definitely take in another night in Estark and hope to repeat with the lovely blonde Ana from Hungary. Very good service. Might even get down to Scandalo again to check out this Anni and / or return to my favorite Melissa!

[Enphl]

I have just come back from a few days in Madrid so here is my report.

Places I went to:

Chicas Atocha, Calle de Murcia No. 28, Semisotano A (it's buzzer number 1).
...
Chicas7 VIPs, Calle Amaniel 7 B.
...
EvenOnce, Calle Moscatelar No. 20.
...
PlacerMadrid, Calle Leon Bonnat No. 11.
...
VIP66 Atocha, Calle Atocha No. 66,1st floor, flat B.

I had intended to try at least one of the clubs that have been recommended on here but I just never got round to it. I think I'm more of a daytime monger anyway really. By midnight I want to be in bed rather than a club!I think I am like you, more of a daytime monger, so thanks for your report.

I'm curious, how would you rank the places you visited. Do you know how each place was when it came to English speaking? (That's the only language I speak).

[PayForIt]

I've some experience with Flowers as well. I travel by train to Las Matas and stay in hotel ("Plaza Las Matas") next to the railway-station and SuperSol (E 50 - E 60 a night. You can bring a girl (from Flowers?) if you like). Flowers is 300 meters at the other side of the highway so very easy to reach: no problem about drinking / driving. And next to the hotel is a "German" bar / restaurant with attractive waitresses and good food!

Have fun.Many thanks. Much appreciated. I had seen the hotel. Do you get to Las Matas station from Atocha?

[PayForIt]

So finally got to try Flowers having previously been to Vive many times, Hot Dreams (awful), Factory Air several times and recently Estark at Diana Plus.

Maybe the week of Santa Semana (Easter week) was not the best to attend but I found the LU at Flowers particularly disappointing. Public transport to this place is NOT recommended. Taxi from hotel to Atocha station, then train to Las Matas, then got a cab to the club which is actually a hotel Florida Apartamentos. No fee to enter. Decent size club which is owned by the same people who own Factory Air though this club is much smaller inside. Circular bar area is good as it is possible to do a circuit (same as Vive / Factory and other clubs on the CdSol e. G. Scandalo). Lots of big large TV screens though no machine to enable the punter to determine the music. Arrived 10.30 which I accept is early in Spain but in Scandalo in Malaga or Vive Madrid there would still be a decent selection at that time. Not so here. There were only 7 girls in the club at that time and only 1 I would have contemplated taking to a room. I considered leaving but as it had taken me over an hour from central Madrid to get here I parked myself in the hope that the LU improved with time. It did. But only marginally. By midnight I counted 18 girls. 14 of them were not to my taste at all, several older girls. Most Romanian (fine by me) and 3 from Venezuela. Pretty but huge asses and big silicones and all of them wanted to know if I liked Charlie which I don't so that was going nowhere. One girl from Chile (first for me) but not pretty. Still thought of leaving without a pop but finally settled on Ana. Small slim Ro, about 25, mouse coloured long hair with very long natural nails which looked sexy. I rarely have only 1 hour. I prefer long sessions. But job done in 45 minutes and all pretty mechanical. Looks 7/10, body 7/10 and service 7/10. Sadly no sign of So Happy favourite Nancy who I asked the receptionist about and was told she no longer works at the club.

Taxi back to hotel in central Madrid was 55.

I'd maybe give it a try on a weekend but on this showing / LU this club is not great. Better than Estark as a property but we are not attending for the aesthetics! LU was weak but it was midweek. I think Estark at Diana Plus is a better option and the girls there are cheaper than the 75 e for 30 minutes, 150 e for 1 hour here + 10 euros for the room so 160 for an hour. That is fine in Scandalo where the LU is good and obviously a lot less than Vive. But its also a lot more than the 100 for the hour which is possible in Estark.

[PayForIt]

Having reported on Day 1 of a short Madrid excursion on the somewhat disappointing LU at Flowers midweek, decided next night to return to Estark / Diana Plus the scene of an excellent recent outing and reported on here. La Semana Santa policy of girls and guys taking holidays (at Easter) was again evident and the LU at Diana Plus was very mediocre in comparison to a midweek night several weeks ago. Perhaps more than other clubs this one attracts a high percentage of odd looking ladies! It also has a high mix of Milfs / young, and large / thin girls. I know there are girls of all shapes, sizes and ages in all clubs but the ratio of unusually large or MILF WGs at this club is higher than the norm! Anyway, my favorite from a few weeks ago (Ana) was not working so that killed that option. Having talked to 4 or 5 other possible alternatives I decided to give up on the club this time and go elsewhere. I should say that there were at least 5 girls in the club I'd have been willing to session with but I decided on my last night in Madrid to see what previously favorite clubs of mine had on offer. The decision was therefore whether to go to Factory or Vive. The latter guarantees hotties but was much further to travel in a cab than Factory so I plumped for the latter.

On entering the club (the door entrance has changed from my last visit a few years ago) I immediately realised that the club is smaller in size than I recalled. Still a decent size and bigger than Estark but not huge. The same owners run Flowers and it was clear to see the imprint on Factory from Flowers the previous night. Same colours / scheme / TVs and pricing for rooms (e150 for the hour + 10 for room so = 160).

Upon entering the club at 11 pm was staggered to see only 6 girls and about 15 guys. Thought I'd made a real mistake and even contemplated taking another 25 euro cab back to Diana Plus! Glad I didn't. The LU improved within the hour to about 25 girls and the standard was very good. There were again about 5 I would have been happy to take to a room but they were a much better standard than the 5 in Diana Plus! Several Brazilians, Columbians and one Argentinian as well as the usual stock of Romanian girls. First session was with Carolina. Very tall gazelle like blonde wearing a really striking striped jump suit. Silicones but lovely. She stood out in the club above all the girls other than one (see below). One hour. Good fun. She said she was Brazilian but after a few choice questions and my attempt at a little Portuguese it was clear to us both that she was in fact Romanian. I do wish they wouldn't do this. Someone needs to tell these girls that guys attend these clubs in the full knowledge that they are highly likely to session with a Romanian girl and there is no problem with that! Probably the best girls I've ever been with are Romanian and I really like them! Anyway, Carolina was enthusiastic. Good fun after melting her initially slightly off-putting demeanour.

Back to the bar not entirely satisfied though. There was one girl in the club who stood out above them all. She sat at the bar wearing a really tight T shirt and short black skirt and she had very long black hair. Absolutely 10/10 looks and body. She was talking to a guy for a long time and I wondered if they might have been a couple and she was not a WG as her dress sense was not typical of WGs. Stunning but not overtly sexual. I decided to take a seat close to them and my luck was in when he put a coat on and left 10 minutes later. No hesitation in moving in and was thrilled when it was clear she was working. She previously worked in Vive which was no surprise given her attractiveness. So Happy. If you are reading this. This girl is at least on a par with Melissa in Scandalo but with an even better body. Proceeded to have 2 hours with Julia. She was fantastic. It would be impossible to tire of her amazing body. Natural tits around see cups but maybe a little bigger but a tiny waist and the most fantastic ass. Great fun in the room with a good attitude. Kissing but no DFK. CBJ only which is fine for me. The only criticism at all was that she loved looking at herself in the mirror. Whilst she is truly stunning and I would repeat whenever possible, she did like to look at herself a lot which is always a shame with a good looking girl.

She did however turn my night from being mediocre to being memorable. Julia is half Italian half Romanian, jet black very long wavy hair, 25 years old with a banging body you will not miss. I highly recommend her. Factory is back on my list of places to return to after this.

[PussyLiccker]

I had no real answers to your questions PFI, so I left it up to you. I've toured Madrid clubs only once, and my sampling were very minor (1 session at Flower's and Estark, 2 at Vive), and my ranking was based on my Nov visit (half a year ago), so with the holiday there, your experience must have changed. I left it up to you to decide since you were doing public transport. I did rental, and hopped many clubs, and checked back and forth. There could be some variance in girls attendance on our visits, perhaps some minor movement (as you pointed out the Vive girl). Based on my visits, FA ranks where it does, and Flower's had girls that looked better than Estark. There probably some dependency on days visited for degree of attendance.

Fact is, Estark and FA is more of a value. I would choose Estark myself. Perhaps FA has less of an affect of the holidays in Spain. I think there was something similar said about Easter in Switzerland affecting Globe LU too. So perhaps it's common in Europe for guys to head out, and therefore some of the EEs and Latinas are away from clubs.

I think with more visitations, you gain more knowledge base, and hence get the best feel of which spot would be regarded as tops for you. This goes with a lot of other areas for punting.

It's a good thing to point out for future reference for punters here.

Thanks for the good write-up.

[John166]

I tell you about my experiences during the days I was in Madrid, March 2016:

Lucia.

http://www.sensmodels.com/escortsmadrid/lucia605-911413455

She is a busty escort, Latin girl, I enjoyed it more with sex than with conversation or other things. It's a girl to enjoy in bed, I liked how She made me to enjoy.

Merce.

http://www.photoescorts.com/merce-escort-madrid-18894

She is a mature escort, she offers a calmer relationship in bed, at least with me. But she is an elegant, educated and good conversation woman.

[Bisht]

Friends,

I am visiting Madrid soon and have RTFF. I will definitely hit one of the clubs once my hotel location is finalized.

But I also wanted to experience (for the first time) a female dominatrix. Any tips / pointers / contacts you can share? My PM is active.

Hoping to hear back.

Thanks.

[Mongerer88]

Friends,

I am visiting Madrid soon and have RTFF. I will definitely hit one of the clubs once my hotel location is finalized.

But I also wanted to experience (for the first time) a female dominatrix. Any tips / pointers / contacts you can share? My PM is active.

Hoping to hear back.

Thanks.http://somostusdiosaspecaminosas.xxx/

I came across this place reading about Madrid.

I have not been there, so I know nothing other than what I am posting.

I am into submissives more so than doms, but of course whatever floats the boat as they say. So I studied it more from finding a sub, but my understanding is that most of the ladies do submissive, switch and dominatrix S&M in addition to full service, often including Greek. They have a huge thread on the spalumi Spanish forum. The problem is that Spalumi bombards me with spam and crashes my computer. What I gathered on Spalumi is that the door code once you arrive is to enter a 1 then a 9. You should use Google Chrome to translate the somostudios site to English.

The address is on the website and is easy to understand regarding the street and building number. PLEASE correct me if my understanding is incorrect, but when an address is given such as 3 degree sign "C", that means it is on the fourth floor (since the ground floor is floor zero in Spain) as an Englishman would express it, and a person would look for unit "C". But that may be wrong, so anyone with knowledge please help.

The worry I have is that from the pictures all of the ladies other than Luz (which becomes Light when the site is translated to English using Google Chrome) and Michaela do not seem very attractive, and Michaela got so-so reviews in the Spalumi thread. But Luz advertises a lot on the Slumi advertising site and she appears smoking hot. The other problem is that when I called, the lady spoke no English, and they have no email or whatsapp.

The true escort agency site that has a lot of profiles of very hot-looking chicks who offer S&M in addition to full service is Afrodita Escorts. I would like to see Gabriela if she is working when I am there. Hope this helps and I appreciate any feedback from anyone with actual experience.

http://www.afroditaescorts.es

[KenBrown]

Greetings folks,

I will be in Madrid from 4/26 till 5/1 and hope to have a bit of fun then. All the posts here have been most helpful, so thank you for all the information. I have a couple of questions and will be grateful for any help. How the hotels in central Madrid (TRYP Cibeles Madrid is where I am booked), react to having the ladies come over to my hotel room? Any issues with that? Also, do the constabulary bother with this type of thing? Also, planning on visiting Vive, Estark and other places. Is getting a cab a problem, especially late at night?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Ken

[Centurion200]

The true escort agency site that has a lot of profiles of very hot-looking chicks who offer S&M in addition to full service is Afrodita Escorts. I would like to see Gabriela if she is working when I am there. Hope this helps and I appreciate any feedback from anyone with actual experience.

http://www.afroditaescorts.esI haven't had experience with that agency but I wouldn't trust the photos of the girls. I see they have borrowed the photos for "Laidy" from a professional soft-porn model, Denisse Gomez. That's one of her Watch4 Beauty photo sets, "Yellow bikini."

[PayForIt]

Greetings folks,

I will be in Madrid from 4/26 till 5/1 and hope to have a bit of fun then. All the posts here have been most helpful, so thank you for all the information. I have a couple of questions and will be grateful for any help. How the hotels in central Madrid (TRYP Cibeles Madrid is where I am booked), react to having the ladies come over to my hotel room? Any issues with that? Also, do the constabulary bother with this type of thing? Also, planning on visiting Vive, Estark and other places. Is getting a cab a problem, especially late at night?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

KenHi Ken and welcome to the forum. Hotels. I've done this a few times and never had any issue bringing a girl back. As for the police. Even less of an issue in Spain. I don't know your particular hotel but the Tryp in Malaga is similar and they have no issue with ladies attending. Finally on the clubs. Always cabs across the street from Vive and outside Factory. At Estark go into the hotel lobby right outside the door of the club and book a cab. They must have had people then not use them as they ask for 10 euro deposit. When the cab turns up and you are getting it they give you the 10 back! Have fun and please report on your experiences including using girls names. Thanks.

[KenBrown]

Hi Ken and welcome to the forum. Hotels. I've done this a few times and never had any issue bringing a girl back. As for the police. Even less of an issue in Spain. I don't know your particular hotel but the Tryp in Malaga is similar and they have no issue with ladies attending. Finally on the clubs. Always cabs across the street from Vive and outside Factory. At Estark go into the hotel lobby right outside the door of the club and book a cab. They must have had people then not use them as they ask for 10 euro deposit. When the cab turns up and you are getting it they give you the 10 back! Have fun and please report on your experiences including using girls names. Thanks.Thank a lot for the information. Also, are the sessions restricted to 1 pop, as is in the US? I would rather that not be the case. Is this something one negotiates?

[Enphl]

Just went to Chicas7, I picked this place, because I wanted a quick in and out place during the daytime.

I arrived around 7 pm, it was easy to find. I reviewed the photo and google street view and found the door ahead of time. Had to ring the bell to be let in. One of the girls (wearing street clothes) answered speaking spanish to me. I asked about English, she said no, asked me to sit down in the lobby and walked to the back.

A few minutes later a girl came over, said something in spanish really fast and got really close. It took a second to realize she was one of the girls introducing herself. I kissed her on the cheek and she disappeared. They all said few words and really fast so it was hard to pick out the names. It felt like they wanted to spend as little time with me as possible. I kept thinking I was going to be brought back to some other room where the girls would be introduced, or the manager would come out and explain the prices first. Second out was the infamous Sara, she spoke english to me. I pretty much decided then that I'd pick her and was getting excited. A total of six girls came out. Then the manager lady came out. Spoke no english but I figured she was asking which girl. I said "Sara", she looked confused and was saying no. She went to the back, I heard "sara" then came back to the front and motioned that she went home. This was confusing to me, why would she introduce herself if she was going home. She asked me which girl I wanted but I didn't remember any of the other names. I motioned somehow that I didn't remember. Then she went back. The first girl came out again, I said "no". Then the rest of them all came out at once and I picked "Alexandra", I think. She was a cute blonde girl with natural be's. Thin but still had a butt. She was fairly pale. I generally like thin girls with long hair and no tan so she worked. Only issue was that she spoke no english so this was going to be interesting. The manager lady asked me how long, "1" or "2". I said "1". She said "90" I said "70" After some back and forth and the girl saying something, she said "ok 70".

The girl took me to the room and had me shower first. She had a bottle of lotion and was motioning something. Then she took a little and rubbed it on my balls. Then I motioned about kissing. She took me over to the sink where we rinsed with mouthwash. Kissing wasnt so great, she kept her mouth fairly closed. There wasn't really any sucking and she just motioned forward and back. It felt like she was trying to give my lip a BJ or something. After kissing she immediately wiped her mouth with a wipe. I moved on to her great natural boobs. I don't like fake ones. I spent some time with those. After that she immediately wipped too.

On to the BJ. I motioned that I didn't want BBBJ but she seemed to indicate that she only did CBJ. That made be go completely limp but she tried to put the condom on anyways. She finally got the idea and started a HJ but then started a BBBJ anyways. After getting hard she put the cover on and continued. She has a very light touch, not nearly enough pressure so it wasnt that great.

She climbed on top of me. She is fairly tight but put lots of lotion so it took away some of the feeling. We switched to doggie where I really went at it, she seemed to take it ok. Switched back to her on top. She went for a while. She never looked at me the whole time which I found strange because she did make eye contact during the BJ. Anyways, this wasnt going to get me off so I asked her to do a BJ. After some motioning, I got her to take the cover off and do a BBBJ.

I forgot about the light touch. I tried asking her to go harder but she only understood to make her hand tighter. This went on for a while. Finally she finished me off with a HJ while licking my balls.

Overall, I don't think I'd see her again. If we could communicate better or she was more skilled to start with, maybe. I'm disappointed I didn't get to see Sara. I can only imagine that she would have been much better.

I'm headed to marrakech tomorrow the to barcelona. Hopefully I'll have better luck.

[PayForIt]

Thank a lot for the information. Also, are the sessions restricted to 1 pop, as is in the US? I would rather that not be the case. Is this something one negotiates?Honest answer is I don't know. I am a quality rather than quantity guy! Also translated as "it takes me too long now to recover so I can only pop once" LOL. Other members may know but I'd be a little surprised in the clubs if they had such a rule. It's time based. What you want to do in your 30 minutes / hour or more is more or less up to you.

[Enphl]

Well, I ended up missing my flight and wasted a whole morning. There was nothing else to do since it was raining so I headed back to Chicas7. I hoped that Sara would be there this time since she's the only one I've met that actually spoke english.

She was not. The girls came out one by one again. I spotted the one I saw yesterday but decided on another one. None really interested me too much so I picked the skinniest one. Unfortunately, the one I said "Camille" wasnt who I thought. With the language barrier, I gave up explaining which girl I actually wanted and just went with it. This one was skinny but had a big butt. I think she's Dominican, heavy tan. I like pale ones. She is more GFE than the last girl. Better kissing, however, she must have eaten something strange before kissing me because I got a weird taste / smell. Not sure what it was. Her BJ was better too. Her only issue was that she doesn't really have any concept of lubrication. Her mouth was fairly dry. When she used her hand, I had to prompt her to get lube. Her bottle was pretty much empty. We did a few positions but its not so fun doing it dry. She finished me off with a HJ.

Overall, not my best week so far

[Mongerer88]

To each his own, and I know this board caters to lower-priced mongering, but when you get to Barcelona, you might think about spending a little bit more. There are some truly fantastic providers in Barcelona (particularly the independents) in the 150 euro per hour range, some of which I have reviewed, where GFE and BBBJ is automatic. You can only expect so much at these lower-priced brothels where the girls do several guys a day. One really good session beats two lousy ones, even if the really good session costs twice as much as each bad one. Just my opinion.


Well, I ended up missing my flight and wasted a whole morning. There was nothing else to do since it was raining so I headed back to Chicas7. I hoped that Sara would be there this time since she's the only one I've met that actually spoke english.

She was not. The girls came out one by one again. I spotted the one I saw yesterday but decided on another one. None really interested me too much so I picked the skinniest one. Unfortunately, the one I said "Camille" wasnt who I thought. With the language barrier, I gave up explaining which girl I actually wanted and just went with it. This one was skinny but had a big butt. I think she's Dominican, heavy tan. I like pale ones. She is more GFE than the last girl. Better kissing, however, she must have eaten something strange before kissing me because I got a weird taste / smell. Not sure what it was. Her BJ was better too. Her only issue was that she doesn't really have any concept of lubrication. Her mouth was fairly dry. When she used her hand, I had to prompt her to get lube. Her bottle was pretty much empty. We did a few positions but its not so fun doing it dry. She finished me off with a HJ.

Overall, not my best week so far

[GlynneJones]

Looking to go to Vive soon. Mid week.

Can anyone help with details?

Number of girls working? How many 9's and 10's?

Are they pushy or relaxed?

Thanks.

[Member #4469]

Looking to go to Vive soon. Mid week.

Can anyone help with details?

Number of girls working? How many 9's and 10's?

Are they pushy or relaxed?

Thanks.Midweek at Vive you can expect 100 girls working especially this week with two Champions League games today and tomorrow it will be very crowded, maybe as much as 150 girls these days. In my book models and Playboy-bunnies are 9-10's you don't find them at a brothel in Spain but there will be plenty of good looking girls, in general they are not very pushy at Vive but you should be aware of girls-drinks are €40 it could become costly really fast.

[GlynneJones]

Reports indicate it's the best line up. A very high standard? Is this true?

Lap dancer types??

[So Happy]

Reports indicate it's the best line up. A very high standard? Is this true?

Lap dancer types??RTFF! Why do you want confirmation from members on what they've already reported many times??

[MarkMark19]

Few days ago I went to meet Anne Duarte:

http://www.photoescorts.com/anne-duarte-escort-madrid-20015

She is a Brazilian girl, and lives near Atocha station. She is not a pretty girl, but her body is very morbid: perfect curves and big and firm breasts.

Sometimes she can seem a little edge, but when you're fucking her the situation changes and she is a lot involved.

The worst, the natural blow job was not good, she does not to practice it. This girl is recommended if you want to be with a hot Brazilian girl.

The language is also problem, she does not speak English and little Spanish. It is a bit expensive for what she offers (150 euros one hour), but I liked to visit her.

[Paddy]

Just returned from Madrid and here's my report. Also, many thanks to all of the guys who have given such great reports and information in the past. It was really helpful.

Went to Vive on a Saturday night and it was as good as advertised. Must have been a hundred girls and none below a 7 I would say. Hooked up with Diana from Śt. Petersburg, Russia. Excellent service and not pushy. Liked her a lot. As we were sitting in the lounge area having a drink before I left, some guys were with a couple of Rumanian girls who were drunk and stripping for them. It was quite a sight. Even my Russki girl was startled by the whole scene. Beware, girl drinks are €40 at Vive. As one guy on the Forum previously said it adds up fast. Vive is a great place but very pricey.

Also went to Estark based on Forum recommendations. Smaller club and everything there is half of what you pay at Vive. The girls are of lesser quality but if you take your time there are some serious gems there. Hooked up with a girl from Ankara, Turkey by the name of Mari. Very sexy, a looker and very sweet. Highly recommended. Also did Tanya there who gave an excellent BBBJ. Only problem with Estark is the long and pricey taxi ride out there. BTW, if you take a taxi ask for Hotel Diana Plus and write the address on a piece of paper for the cabby. Most of them never heard of "Whiskeria Estark. " Also went to Flowers one night but left rather quickly. Punters everywhere and just a few skanky girls.

BTW, I really liked the city of Madrid. Most attractions are within walking distance from Gran Via where I stayed. Also, to avoid lines at the Royal Palace and the Prado I went in the afternoon and walked right in.

Paddy.

[KenBrown]

Hello folks,

Just landed in Madrid. Hope to make a memorable 4 nights here. On top of the list is the Russian site (Rusas VIP) and of course, Vive. If I have any juice left after this (have identified at least 3 ladies in Rusas, and if found palatable shall re-sample), shall experiment with the other spots. Await a detailed report soon.

Cheers,

Ken

[Mongerer88]

I have been negligent on doing reports.

You will like the Russian place. It was excellent.

I will do a report today or tomorrow.

PM if you need to.


Hello folks,

Just landed in Madrid. Hope to make a memorable 4 nights here. On top of the list is the Russian site (Rusas VIP) and of course, Vive. If I have any juice left after this (have identified at least 3 ladies in Rusas, and if found palatable shall re-sample), shall experiment with the other spots. Await a detailed report soon.

Cheers,

Ken

[Mongerer88]

http://www.rusasvip.com/escorts-rusas-madrid-nikol1.html

Saw three ladies on a recent trip. This was the last lady I saw, but I will review her first since another poster mentioned the agency.

The most overwhelming positive is that the pictures are real. Polish girl in her early 20's with an 8 face and a true 10 body. Like Britney Spears in her prime body. I was floored. Hair down to her waist, a tiny little butt, and large, soft, perfect breasts that felt completely natural. Cute, tasty "Y", too. Best body I have seen in a very long long time. Not announce of fat on this chick, just big hair and big boobs in a petite package.

The agency is good to deal with, with some curtness that is just part of Russian culture. There were two madams. The one answering the phone speaks little English, but she hands the phone to the fluent English speaker when the caller speaks neither Spanish or Russian.

The place is a 15 euro cab ride from the Museum area of the city. The ride goes by the National Palace and it is spectacular when lit up at night. I gave my phone to the cab driver and he got directions. They give him an address that is a 10 second walk to the RusasVIP entrance, and is very easy to find from where the cab drops the customer off. They also called me a cab for the trip back and let me wait inside. But it is a safe residential neighborhood.

They are the only occupants of the facility and it is a very big house. The lobby has two big TVs, one playing porn and the other playing music videos. A nice couch, a pool table, some tasty candy, and some free very, very watered-down liquids in some nice liquor bottles. You ain't getting drunk here.

The rooms are spacious with a big bed and a shower.

The performance was good, not great. But it might have been great if I had seen her earlier. I purchased the 45 minute natural French option.

The kissing was initiated by her and was more of pecks on the cheek than anything romantic. No fingering, but DATY and other licking was encouraged. The breasts were so damn perfect that everything else was largely forgotten.

She was fine with me using my own condoms, but after pumping for a while in doggy, she said it was painful and wanted to switch to missionary. I can never come in missionary, so I took the condom off and had her do oral. She apologized and said we could go back to doggy after a break. It was near the end of her rotation in Madrid and she said a lot of guys had been seeing her. With those looks, no shit.

But her oral skills were fantastic, so I was fine with that. She sensed when I was about to cum, and finished me off with a million dollar handshake. I was happy.

Nikol (Nicol) speaks good English but needs you to speak English slowly and clearly to her for her to understand. She was going to play some music but was nice when I requested no music.

Through an open door, I saw the long, slim blonde named Natasha, who has an excellent review on another English-language review board. She was very good looking with a face better than the website pics. Smaller breasts than Nikol, though.

If I had been in Madrid another night, I would have gone to see Natasha since her review indicates that her performance is excellent.

An overwhelming premise of the translated reviews I read on the Spalumi Madrid forum is that the girls at this place give much better performance if the 45 or 60 minute option is selected instead of the 30 minute option. Apparently, the girls here can be hit and miss according to the the Spalumi thread. For me, Nikol was a hit, primarily because of the body, great attitude, and performance that was as good as she could do.

[Mongerer88]

http://madrid.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-young-engish-girl-wants-to-please-you/6187674

Phone 004478XXXXX109

Not sure how long this link will stay active, but this girl posts a new backpage ad every few days. A search for English Girl loves Anal locates her. She was the second lady I saw and I have a lot of very good things to say about her.

I saw her outcall for a morning appointment. She is very diligent and accommodating, responds very quickly via whatsapp, and is originally from London so English is not an issue. Face is a solid 9 or 9.5. Once you start a chat with her on whatsapp, her face pic shows up and you can see that she is very pretty. A little bit darker skinned than the backpage pics would suggest.

Performance was a 10. Anal, CFS, BBBJ (not sure if to completion simply because I did not come during the BJ), DATY, FIV, FIA, DFK that she initiates, loved the toys that I brought, etc, etc. Basically it is an hour of nonstop action (multiples are of course available) with lots of friendly, intelligent conversation. She is very tight for CFS and anal (covered of course), and the BBBJ is very good, but maybe a little bit aggressive for my taste. She is very gentle and sensual for DFK, though. She was fine with me using my favorite brand of condoms.

The body is as shown in the ad. I would definitely not call her fat, because nothing sags and there are no rolls. But there is a lot of woman here. Tall and big framed. Big boobs, big butt, etc. I slightly prefer petite spinners, but the performance was so good that I had a fantastic time with her. Very highly recommended.

And no upcharges for anything. All she wanted was the 150 euro per hour fee and the exact amount of her inexpensive cab ride over. As with all of Europe that I have visited, the hotels are girl-friendly. They just walk past reception and go up to the room.

[Smuler]

But there is a lot of woman here. Tall and big framed. Big boobs, big butt, etc. I slightly prefer petite spinners, but the performance was so good that I had a fantastic time with her. Very highly recommended.Thanks for the reviews of these 2 girls.

Sounds like you're having a good time.

Best Regards.

Smuler.

[Mongerer88]

http://www.afroditaescorts.es/index-en.html

This was my first session in Madrid, and the one I was most looking forward to, but of the three it was the most disappointing.

First, I will describe the agency and the incall place. They respond better to whatsapp messages than they do to the emails I sent using Google Translate. They were responsive and helpful. The address on the website is accurate. It is a standalone house with one buzzer and is next door to a popular burger joint. They send a picture of the front door and buzzer via Whatsapp. A nice neighborhood with plenty of pedestrian traffic that is a 12 euro cab ride from the museum area. I noticed a metro stop two blocks away.

The inside of the facility is clean and the room was spacious. The "madam" spoke perfect English and was cute as a button.

Gabriela was not as facially hot as the pics suggest. She said she was Spanish but had more of a German / Scandanavian look. Her enhanced breasts were large but rather hard for my tastes. The rest of the body was excellent, including a very "meaty pussy" that as great to finger and lick.

The negatives were the over marketing and greediness. I had chosen her sumisa option for 50 extra euros since I do love a girl who likes the kinky stuff, but she is a very, very light player in this area and what she offers is not worth the upcharge.

I had asked the agency about anal and they said it had a 60 to 80 euro up charge. Once I had lubed her up really good for anal, she announced that it was 100 euros extra. I told her what the agency had said via email, and perhaps she did not understand since her English is just okay and my Spanish is nonexistent, so she was kind enough to fingerpaint 100 in the air for me. I lost my erection and declined this service.

So I had her do a BBBJ, and in fairness it was an excellent one. The agency had mentioned via email that CIM was extra, and sure enough she pulled me out of her mouth and said "You like to finish in my mouth?" I noticed the upcharge gleam in her eye, but it was a good enough BJ that I was not going to go limp, so I declined CIM and she was at least willing to use my favorite brand of condom that I brought for intercourse. She suited me up and I finished CFS doggie style. I presume that multiples were available (the agency had said they were in the email), but I was finished with this experience and I left.

Wish I could recommend her, but I can't. Perhaps if my expectations had been lower, I would have left happier.

[Mongerer88]

Thanks for the reviews of these 2 girls.

Sounds like you're having a good time.

Best Regards.

Smuler.The review I just did was not as positive, but two out of three ain't bad.

Maybe it was the lack of a beach, but I did not think that Madrid had the "You are on holiday, have fun" vibe that our beloved Barcelona has. The Madrid museums are better, but for outdoor activities and mongering, I prefer Barcelona.

[Smuler]

The review I just did was not as positive, but two out of three ain't bad.

Maybe it was the lack of a beach, but I did not think that Madrid had the "You are on holiday, have fun" vibe that our beloved Barcelona has. The Madrid museums are better, but for outdoor activities and mongering, I prefer Barcelona.As Meatloaf said, " Two outa Three ain't bad " LOL.

Best Regards.

Smuler.

[Pelon74]

Will be going to Madrid for the first time next month, for what I have read and friends told me, Madrid has an oversupply of WG, granted very pretty but also very expensive. Being that there are many girls there and the economy of Spain is not that good and in general of EU, why do you think P4 P is so expensive there?

[Mongerer88]

Will be going to Madrid for the first time next month, for what I have read and friends told me, Madrid has an oversupply of WG, granted very pretty but also very expensive. Being that there are many girls there and the economy of Spain is not that good and in general of EU, why do you think P4 P is so expensive there?It would probably help if you indicated what you are comparing it to. Madrid seems less expensive, for comparable services and comparable looks, to the other major capitals of Western Europe, London, Paris, Brussels, Geneva, Rome etc.

I did notice that it was more expensive than its Iberian competitors of Barcelona and Lisbon for comparable looks and services. I looked at a cost of living index on the Internet and Madrid is 20-25 percent more expensive than Lisbon for most items. The purchase of commercial sex, unsurprisingly, was not one of the listed comparables on that website. I presume that Madrid gets relatively more business travelers and Barcelona gets more leisure travelers, which might explain some of the pricing difference.

Note that backpage does not appear to be the cesspool in Madrid that it is in many countries. I noticed a lot of recurring ads from English speaking girls in the 150 - 180 euros per hour range. If I had it to do over again, I would have first seen the English Girl who Loves Anal for two hours at her 200 euro price, and then seen several ladies at the the Russian incall place for 30 or 45 minute sessions. If would have reduced my overall costs a bit.

I realize Germany seems less expensive on a per session basis, but the entrance fees and the fact that the FKKs are often in the middle of nowhere negates some of the savings and makes it a less desirable experience if you do not want to stay at the same place for several hours. Plus the dreaded (to me) CBJ does not appear to be as prevelant in Madrid as it is in Northern Europe and even in Germany unless negotiated away.

The Slovak countries have always interested me, but it seems to me that the prices are constantly increasing in those countries and that they are no longer bargains. And there are plenty of reports of scams in those places. As with South America, it only takes one bad experience to negate the benefits of lower prices.

[Pelon74]

Thanks dor your input, I was comparing to the americas and asia and the fkks, but muy point was that the economic conditions of spain are really bad, and the supply of girls is high, so it is surprising to me that the sessions are really expensive. Or it could be that there are not as many girls as it looks and the demand is higher also than it looks? Also it's s ems from the posts in the forum that amataur or semi-pro possibilities are not available in Madrid like in other LA countries, also strange to me.


It would probably help if you indicated what you are comparing it to. Madrid seems less expensive, for comparable services and comparable looks, to the other major capitals of Western Europe, London, Paris, Brussels, Geneva, Rome etc.

I did notice that it was more expensive than its Iberian competitors of Barcelona and Lisbon for comparable looks and services. I looked at a cost of living index on the Internet and Madrid is 20-25 percent more expensive than Lisbon for most items. The purchase of commercial sex, unsurprisingly, was not one of the listed comparables on that website. I presume that Madrid gets relatively more business travelers and Barcelona gets more leisure travelers, which might explain some of the pricing difference.

Note that backpage does not appear to be the cesspool in Madrid that it is in many countries. I noticed a lot of recurring ads from English speaking girls in the 150 - 180 euros per hour range. If I had it to do over again, I would have first seen the English Girl who Loves Anal for two hours at her 200 euro price, and then seen several ladies at the the Russian incall place for 30 or 45 minute sessions. If would have reduced my overall costs a bit.

I realize Germany seems less expensive on a per session basis, but the entrance fees and the fact that the FKKs are often in the middle of nowhere negates some of the savings and makes it a less desirable experience if you do not want to stay at the same place for several hours. Plus the dreaded (to me) CBJ does not appear to be as prevelant in Madrid as it is in Northern Europe and even in Germany unless negotiated away.

The Slovak countries have always interested me, but it seems to me that the prices are constantly increasing in those countries and that they are no longer bargains. And there are plenty of reports of scams in those places. As with South America, it only takes one bad experience to negate the benefits of lower prices.

[Mongerer88]

Thanks dor your input, I was comparing to the americas and asia and the fkks, but muy point was that the economic conditions of spain are really bad, and the supply of girls is high, so it is surprising to me that the sessions are really expensive. Or it could be that there are not as many girls as it looks and the demand is higher also than it looks? Also it's s ems from the posts in the forum that amataur or semi-pro possibilities are not available in Madrid like in other LA countries, also strange to me.http://www.reuters.com/article/spain-economy-idUSL8N15D17E

Spain's economy is pretty strong. The only disturbing statistic is the high unemployment rate and that is largely bullshit. Keep in mind that many of the girls charging 150-200 euros per hour are listed as unemployed in the official statistics.

Spain's only connection to Latin America is the common language. Latin America's reliance on mined commodities and oil has caused true economic distress, and it has shown up in the prices of commercial sex and the availability of semi-pros who are looking to immigrate. Unfortunately, it also shows up in increased violence in Latin America.

Spain's economy centers around agriculture, services, and tourism. All of which appear to be thriving. I saw only one begger the time I was there, and the shops and restaurants were full or close to it.

Spain is also pretty far from Eastern Europe, so it is more difficult for very poor women willing to work for very low pay to make it to Spain on buses and trains, in comparison to Germany.

The slight premium in pricing for Madrid in comparison to Barcelona is puzzling. It seems that Barcelona is a little more oriented to competition. It has several well known brothels that compete on price, and the website (sexomercadobcn) that the locals use to find independents encourages the ladies to establish ad profiles and compete on price. Madrid's best known venue is a large club that seems to have little price competition from similar establishments and Madrid's local review board (Spalumi) is a pop-up ad and virus infected hellhole.

Madrid has a huge advertising site (Slumi) and I think the locals find less-expensive sex using that site, but it is not at all English-friendly. Unlike Barcelona that has several ad web site markets (forosx and urban escorts) that have options for English.

If you read and speak Spanish, I suspect that Slumi might be the key to finding what you want at a low price. It did not work for me, so I focused on sites and advertisements available in English and Spanish, and gravitated toward places with English speakers or those with the willingness to use whatsapp and translate. There was one place in Madrid I really wanted to check out, but they did not have email or whatsapp, and they spoke no English. So I was out of luck. I would have been willing to do all the translating via email or whatsapp, so it is frustrating to me that some places are so behind the times.

[ShooBree]

Thanks dor your input, I was comparing to the americas and asia and the fkks, but muy point was that the economic conditions of spain are really bad, and the supply of girls is high, so it is surprising to me that the sessions are really expensive. Or it could be that there are not as many girls as it looks and the demand is higher also than it looks? Also it's s ems from the posts in the forum that amataur or semi-pro possibilities are not available in Madrid like in other LA countries, also strange to me.You can't compare Spain to Asia or Las Americas. It's like comparing North America to South America. Why is it so expensive in the US and Canada compared to the rest of the countries in America?

Spain isn't a part of the Latin American countries.

You could compare the Spanish GDP / capita (30'000 $) versus Brazil (11'000 $) and Colombia (8'000 $). You could also look at the gini coefficient and that will show that the wealth is more evenly distributed in Spain than in the other countries.

Also pay for play in Madrid have several venues of different prices. It's not necessarily expensive and IMHO better and more options than Barcelona.

Hotels and the top clubs are cheaper in Madrid than in Barcelona.

[Pepe1976X]

Pelon74,

My advice to you about prices in Madrid and comparability to S. America would be RTFF and learn more about Spain and its relative cost of living! Having viewed your lack of contribution to the Forum we would all benefit by you adding from your experiences and knowledge in reports and not asking inane questions of other members.

Mongerer88,

Your patience and knowledge was beyond the call of duty!

[Pelon74]

Again thanks for your input, it makes sense. My logic was more about the close to 20% unemployemt, I speak 100 % spanish and I browsed slumi and it has slightly cheaper prices. I can see it caters to the local population, once I'm in Madrid will try at least one the lower price escort to see if the quality is less of the higher escorts. At least in the adds it is hard to tell any difference. I will report.


http://www.reuters.com/article/spain-economy-idUSL8N15D17E

Spain's economy is pretty strong. The only disturbing statistic is the high unemployment rate and that is largely bullshit. Keep in mind that many of the girls charging 150-200 euros per hour are listed as unemployed in the official statistics.

Spain's only connection to Latin America is the common language. Latin America's reliance on mined commodities and oil has caused true economic distress, and it has shown up in the prices of commercial sex and the availability of semi-pros who are looking to immigrate. Unfortunately, it also shows up in increased violence in Latin America.

Spain's economy centers around agriculture, services, and tourism. All of which appear to be thriving. I saw only one begger the time I was there, and the shops and restaurants were full or close to it.

Spain is also pretty far from Eastern Europe, so it is more difficult for very poor women willing to work for very low pay to make it to Spain on busses and trains, in comparison to Germany.

The slight premium in pricing for Madrid in comparison to Barcelona is puzzling. It seems that Barcelona is a little more oriented to competition. It has several well known brothels that compete on price, and the website (sexomercadobcn) that the locals use to find independents encourages the ladies to establish ad profiles and compete on price. Madrid's best known venue is a large club that seems to have little price competition from similar establishments and Madrid's local review board (Spalumi) is a pop-up ad and virus infected hellhole.

Madrid has a huge advertising site (Slumi) and I think the locals find less-expensive sex using that site, but it is not at all English-friendly. Unlike Barcelona that has several ad web site markets (forosx and urban escorts) that have options for English.

If you read and speak Spanish, I suspect that Slumi might be the key to finding what you want at a low price. It did not work for me, so I focused on sites and advertisements available in English and Spanish, and gravitated toward places with English speakers or those with the willingness to use whatsapp and translate. There was one place in Madrid I really wanted to check out, but they did not have email or whatsapp, and they spoke no English. So I was out of luck. I would have been willing to do all the translating via email or whatsapp, so it is frustrating to me that some places are so behind the times.

[Expat17]

Hello,

Could anyone help me with the location of RusasVIP? Their website only seems to point out its near Príncipe Pio. But would appreciate if someone could help me with the street and the house number where they're located. Also was curious how KenBrown's experience was over there.

Thanks!

[Mongerer88]

Hello,

Could anyone help me with the location of RusasVIP? Their website only seems to point out its near Prncipe Pio. But would appreciate if someone could help me with the street and the house number where they're located. Also was curious how KenBrown's experience was over there.

Thanks!They keep it confidential. They even give the cab driver an address 10 seconds walking distance away. But I did see the major circular streets very nearby and their recruiting page mentions a mall that is very close by. So if you google map it based on the location on their website, a cab from the nearest metro could not be more than 5 euros.

I also look forward to KenBrown's reports. The Spalumi thread raved about Diana and said good things about Yulia, but some of the translated reports were unfavorable.

[MarkMark19]

Hello,

Could anyone help me with the location of RusasVIP? Their website only seems to point out its near Prncipe Pio. But would appreciate if someone could help me with the street and the house number where they're located. Also was curious how KenBrown's experience was over there.

Thanks!I went a year ago, I stopped at "Principe Pio" station, and it took me 10 or 15 minutes walking to arrive there.

[MarkMark19]

Last ten days I have met two escorts:

Sofia,

http://www.photoescorts.com/sofia-escort-madrid-18248

She is a Spanish escort, big boobs, she is not a thin girl, if you like curves, she will be a good choice. She is a kind and nice girl, but not very involved in sex. The best was natural blow job, about sex she has little imagination.

Cris,

http://www.girlsmadrid.com/escort-cris9.html

She is a Brazilian escort, very nice body, large and firm breasts, very morbid in bed. It was a delight for me to travel around her body. Good natural blow job and sex in several and different positions.

The negative side is that she exaggerates too the cries and moans.

[PayForIt]

Back in Madrid this week and did contemplate some outcall escorts given other reports but just cannot resist attending the clubs to choose.

Decided after my last trip to head straight to Factory air given the amazing Julia. Got there. Sunday so naturally going to be quiet. No sign of Julia. Looked about and one or two other options but decided to ask the barmaid if Julia was working tonight. She called her and 10 minutes later she arrived. No make up, trainers, hair just washed. Now she still has literally the best body I've sessioned with either in Spain or in FKKs. Absolutely top draw. Perfect see / dee cups natural and an ass you'd die for. But the lack of make up and the casual look made me think this was a mistake and sure enough the session was ok but mechanical. Unsatisfied I headed to Estark - 25 euros in taxi. Could not believe how busy it was for a Sunday night with at least 40 girls and 30 punters. I really like this club. It has atmosphere / party vibe. There were 5 girls I'd happily have selected but I could not choose between three hotties. Roxanne - Ro, Bella, Dom Republic and a Cuban girl I've forgotten the name of. The latter was more curvy than the other two but really pretty face. But the bodies on the first two were just killer. Selected Roxanne. Long dark / black hair, silicones but well done and lovely toned body. 90 minutes later left totally satisfied for 200 euros. You cannot beat these prices. I'd negotiated this in the bar. Always a risk if the session isn't good but she was saying all the right things and DFK, DATY, as promised. Wouldn't do BBBJ and thought it was madness that girls do it as standard in FKKs. Great night. I think Estark has the edge on Factory.

[Riddim62]

Guys,

I'm new to the forum. Sup. I will be in Madrid in June and plan to visit Vive and probably Factory Air and Estark based on the reviews on the forum.

I'll be staying near the Sol station. Are there cabs available at these places to return to my hotel at night / am. Also is it warm this time of the year?

I'm really into Flamenco in all its forms so I would totally appreciate input as to where to go to hear / C / imbibe Flameco before I head out to the clubs.

Also is it safe walking around later at night in the Sol area. I keep hearing things but I'm sure it can't be worse than some areas where I live in Cali!

[Member #4469]

Guys,

I'm new to the forum. Sup. I will be in Madrid in June and plan to visit Vive and probably Factory Air and Estark based on the reviews on the forum.

I'll be staying near the Sol station. Are there cabs available at these places to return to my hotel at night / am. Also is it warm this time of the year?

I'm really into Flamenco in all its forms so I would totally appreciate input as to where to go to hear / C / imbibe Flameco before I head out to the clubs.

Also is it safe walking around later at night in the Sol area. I keep hearing things but I'm sure it can't be worse than some areas where I live in Cali!You won't have any problems finding a cab outside these places. Yes it's hot in June so I would advise you to book a hotel with roof-terrace or swimmingpool.

The area surrounding Plaza Sol is ok if you keep your head up, it's not intimidating in any way.

[Mongerer88]

Hello folks,

Just landed in Madrid. Hope to make a memorable 4 nights here. On top of the list is the Russian site (Rusas VIP) and of course, Vive. If I have any juice left after this (have identified at least 3 ladies in Rusas, and if found palatable shall re-sample), shall experiment with the other spots. Await a detailed report soon.

Cheers,

KenIt would be really nice to hear about your trip and whether you liked Rusasvip or Vive better.

[DavidT787]

Hello Brethren,

I am visiting Madrid mid June (I hope good season), I have been to Barcelona last Nov'15 and I was blown away and so I thought I should visit Madrid this time. It would be really nice if you some of you or as many.

Of you could let me know where to stay (place with lot of action). I plan to be there for 3-4 days so woudl want to taste as many as I can but of course quality is a must. Hopefully will get some help from you guys.

[Nordico]

Guys,

I'm new to the forum. Sup. I will be in Madrid in June and plan to visit Vive and probably Factory Air and Estark based on the reviews on the forum.

I'll be staying near the Sol station. Are there cabs available at these places to return to my hotel at night / am. Also is it warm this time of the year?

I'm really into Flamenco in all its forms so I would totally appreciate input as to where to go to hear / C / imbibe Flameco before I head out to the clubs.

Also is it safe walking around later at night in the Sol area. I keep hearing things but I'm sure it can't be worse than some areas where I live in Cali!For the flamenco part, just Google "tablao flamenco madrid" and you will find many of them.

Madrid is really safe place and you can go anywhere, anytime you want. Robberies are not common. Lived 10 years in Madrid and I never felt unsafe. Just be aware of pickpockets, specially in metro and Sol area.

[Pelon74]

Has anyone has tried dating sites like tagged, tinder, seeking arrangements or others? Any success rates? In countries like Brazil and Indonesia I had some suceeses with non pros, you can see my reports. Haven't found any reports on dating sites here.

[Ibrahimovic]

Estark: Best taxi or own car. Difficult to get there on public transport.Or maybe go with Cercanias Renfe to station El Pozo which is quite close by, within a kilometer. But would need to be taxis available there for the last part of the trip.. Alternatively get a number to the local taxi company.

[JesseJames1447]

http://madrid.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-young-engish-girl-wants-to-please-you/6187674.First of all, excellent review! Looks like I am heading to Madrid in a couple of days and this particular girl looks to fit my taste perfectly. Her ad is still up and all, but the number just does not seem to bring anything up in whatsapp. Is there some special way it must be formatted? Any tip or help at all would be great. I don't want to miss out on this one.

Thanks in advance.

[Delta Indigo]

I am going to visit Madrid over the weekend and will be visiting Vive.

What I wanted to ask if anal is usually inclusive or do you usually have to pay extra for it and if so how much?

Thanks for the info.

[PayForIt]

I am going to visit Madrid over the weekend and will be visiting Vive.

What I wanted to ask if anal is usually inclusive or do you usually have to pay extra for it and if so how much?

Thanks for the info.Not my thing but I'm virtually certain you will find it is most definitely NOT inclusive and you'll have to pay extra for it. How much I just would not know but bear in mind that the girls know that punters in Vive are not poor. At 220 euros p / hour they know you can find girls in Madrid on Calle Montero for as little as 30 euros f&s. So if you are in Vive paying this hourly rate expect the price for extras to be high. I'd most certainly recommend you ensuring the girl is willing, and agreeing a price before going to the room. Enjoy. It has some real stunners. I've read some of your posts in FKK threads and believe you'll have a great time in Vive albeit at a much higher cost than in FKKs.

[ShoesAndSocks]

I am going to visit Madrid over the weekend and will be visiting Vive.I'm also going to Madrid, in early June, so I'll be interested to know how you compare it to Globe.

One question I have re Vive. I believe it's a brothel with sort of a nightclub disguise, but I presume unlike a nightclub they won't be in any way fussy about dress? Given it will be hot when I'm there, are shorts and T-shirt OK?

[Mongerer88]

First of all, excellent review! Looks like I am heading to Madrid in a couple of days and this particular girl looks to fit my taste perfectly. Her ad is still up and all, but the number just does not seem to bring anything up in whatsapp. Is there some special way it must be formatted? Any tip or help at all would be great. I don't want to miss out on this one.

Thanks in advance.Thanks, and glad the review was useful.

She has a United Kingdom cell phone (not a Spain cell phone), so I did the United Kingdom selection on whatsapp, which brings up +44 from the United States (Not sure if that is the same if your origin country is different), and then I type in 7825444109.

She is still active in my whatsapp. I do not think her picture appeared until she replied to me, so she may not appear to be active until you send her a message.

[ShooBree]

Not my thing but I'm virtually certain you will find it is most definitely NOT inclusive and you'll have to pay extra for it. How much I just would not know but bear in mind that the girls know that punters in Vive are not poor. At 220 euros p / hour they know you can find girls in Madrid on Calle Montero for as little as 30 euros f&s. So if you are in Vive paying this hourly rate expect the price for extras to be high. I'd most certainly recommend you ensuring the girl is willing, and agreeing a price before going to the room. Enjoy. It has some real stunners. I've read some of your posts in FKK threads and believe you'll have a great time in Vive albeit at a much higher cost than in FKKs.Hmm, I was going to say that it depends on who approaches the subject. If she offers anal, (rarely happens) it's most likely included, if you ask for it then she will most likely demand a tip if she is even willing to do it at all.

[Alex7J]

I'm also going to Madrid, in early June, so I'll be interested to know how you compare it to Globe.

One question I have re Vive. I believe it's a brothel with sort of a nightclub disguise, but I presume unlike a nightclub they won't be in any way fussy about dress? Given it will be hot when I'm there, are shorts and T-shirt OK?S and S,

Why do you want to spoil your night, you are going to Vive one of the most expensive pick up places in Madrid. Dress nicely and see how women latch on to you with there pussy buddy.

Reading your reports I thought you were a very seasoned punter in the Zürich forum. Dress smart casual jeans will be better with t-shirt and do not wear flip flops or you will look out of the place as most men dress very nice when coming to Vive.

Just my sincere advice, rest you are a master fucker you know the best.

Chill and cheers,

Alex

[PayForIt]

I'm also going to Madrid, in early June, so I'll be interested to know how you compare it to Globe.

One question I have re Vive. I believe it's a brothel with sort of a nightclub disguise, but I presume unlike a nightclub they won't be in any way fussy about dress? Given it will be hot when I'm there, are shorts and T-shirt OK?I got to tell you that I loved that a guy with the nick "Shoes and Socks" posts asking if he can wear shorts! In answer to your question. I wouldn't risk it. I've never seen anyone wearing less than smart casual at Vive. Shirt / good T shirt and trousers are the norm. People do wear jeans. I always do if they are smart but I've never seen shorts or trainers. But hopefully there will be members of this forum who go far more frequently than me who might be able to tell you differently. The Club has air con. You'll be going at night. I wouldn't risk shorts if I were you! And anyway. Shorts with shoes and socks would look naff!

[ShoesAndSocks]

I got to tell you that I loved that a guy with the nick "Shoes and Socks" posts asking if he can wear shorts! In answer to your question. I wouldn't risk it. I've never seen anyone wearing less than smart casual at Vive.OK, thanks. Good to know these little things beforehand. A brothel with a dress code, that's a new one for me.

One thing I've learnt not to take for granted in Europe is air-conditioning. Last time I was in Barcelona I went to a very cosy little club and watched a 60s-something couple perform flamenco dancing for 2.5 hours in sweltering 36C humidity, and I almost passed out on their behalf.

I'll post a report mid-June letting you know how I find Vive.

[PayForIt]

OK, thanks. Good to know these little things beforehand. A brothel with a dress code, that's a new one for me.

One thing I've learnt not to take for granted in Europe is air-conditioning. Last time I was in Barcelona I went to a very cosy little club and watched a 60s-something couple perform flamenco dancing for 2.5 hours in sweltering 36C humidity, and I almost passed out on their behalf.

I'll post a report mid-June letting you know how I find Vive.Good man. Vive isn't a cosy little club. It is a very large warehouse. Not particularly attractive inside but very large with a lot of people and well dressed women. I'd be astounded if it didn't have aircon. I've been in summer and never had a problem. Enjoy. It's great and look forward to reading your report.

[Member #4469]

Good man. Vive isn't a cosy little club. It is a very large warehouse. Not particularly attractive inside but very large with a lot of people and well dressed women. I'd be astounded if it didn't have aircon. I've been in summer and never had a problem. Enjoy. It's great and look forward to reading your report.Hello Gentlemen!

Wearing shorts is actually no problem at Vive I have done it on several occasions! The only club in Madrid that I know about with a dresscode is "Club Hot" they don't accept shorts.

It's not really my "thing" but I have never paid extra for anal in Spain, in my experience most south-american have it on their menu.

[PayForIt]

Hello Gentlemen!

Wearing shorts is actually no problem at Vive I have done it on several occasions! The only club in Madrid that I know about with a dresscode is "Club Hot" they don't accept shorts.

It's not really my "thing" but I have never paid extra for anal in Spain, in my experience most south-american have it on their menu.Hi Toxteth! There you go Shoes and Socks. You can now wear your shorts (hopefully not with the Shoes and Socks!) and enjoy anal with a South American latina of your choosing. I've never seen the shorts thing in Vive. But if Toxteth has done it and felt ok you should be fine. I'm amazed anal is included on the menu of some girls without extra charge. There is more of a culture I think in Spanish clubs of not upselling other than "baby you buy me a drink" at the bar. But in the room they tend to think you've bought your time. Unlike in FKKs I've never been asked to pay more for DFK / BBBJ even if some girls will say they don't do either. But I would have thought anal was extra. Shame it's also not my thing if its a freebie!

[ShoesAndSocks]

S and S,

Why do you want to spoil your night, you are going to Vive one of the most expensive pick up places in Madrid. Dress nicely and see how women latch on to you with there pussy buddy.Reasons I asked were 1) I haven't quite got the feel of Vive yet, and to what extent it functions as a nightclub beyond being the place to meet & choose a lady, and 2) I travel extremely light with only a roller carry-on bag, and this means compromise is necessary, so things like dress shoes and tailored pants need to justify their trip beyond a night or two.

I have absolutely no interest in the nightclub aspect (non-drinker for one thing) so I plan to be spending most of my time naked and humping. As for my dress sense, I've found a bulging wallet to be the only thing the ladies look for! One thing I like about the FKK scene in Zurich in summer - wardrobe requirements for the day are very minimal.

Anyway, thanks to all for the advice, and I think I will go with long pants and collared shirt for the first visit and check the vibe for any future visits. Looking forward to some latinas, as apart from a few Brazilians at Globe and some girls at Miami strip clubs I've not experienced them as much as I would like to.

Shall report back in June.

[Pepe1976X]

Go for it! But beware of living up to the Madrilenos preconception of you! And the attitude that will generate towards you especially when you are sipping on your iced water at the bar! I understand that Vive also allows men to wear Borak onesies. Give that a try and please be sure to report back on how well it is received. You may need a custom made one to have a pouch to hold your W. G. Bulging wallet. As a working girl monger who travels light this would be ideal for you.

[Delta Indigo]

Vive really does not have a dress code. There were many nice girls in there, but nothing like the Globe or a top quality FKK like Sharks or GT Vienna. In my opinion it really is not worth the price.

I started mongering in Prague, where the girls are not fully nude like Germany, but I much rather prefer Prague venues to Vive, the girls wear way too much.

Pussy Licker was spot on, I sessioned with a Venezuelan girl, she tried to give me a CBJ after promsing otherwise, I said no and she proceeded to a BBBJ and the session was mechanical. The price of the Globe with about 25% of the service and optical level.

I am also not a fan of Madrid venues. Will see if other places are worth it later on.

[ShoesAndSocks]

I sessioned with a Venezuelan girl, she tried to give me a CBJ after promsing otherwise, I said no and she proceeded to a BBBJ and the session was mechanical. The price of the Globe with about 25% of the service and optical level.DI,

Sorry to hear that, buddy.

Tell me please, what % of LU could be described as Sth American, and what time does it get busy there?

Thanks.

[PayForIt]

Vive really does not have a dress code. There were many nice girls in there, but nothing like the Globe or a top quality FKK like Sharks or GT Vienna. In my opinion it really is not worth the price.

I started mongering in Prague, where the girls are not fully nude like Germany, but I much rather prefer Prague venues to Vive, the girls wear way too much.

Pussy Licker was spot on, I sessioned with a Venezuelan girl, she tried to give me a CBJ after promsing otherwise, I said no and she proceeded to a BBBJ and the session was mechanical. The price of the Globe with about 25% of the service and optical level.

I am also not a fan of Madrid venues. Will see if other places are worth it later on.Hi DI. I've read several of your posts (e. G. On FKK Oceans recently which has persuaded me to to there this week!) and you are always very balanced as opposed to some members of ISG who will rant about this club and that club. So I value your views.

I've made that clear here as I was quite shocked to read your take on Vive. Over the last 5 years I've been there probably as much as I have to any FKK. Completely different experience of course. Upsides of FKKs are being surrounded by lots of naked girls, outdoor possibilities and being there the whole day if you want. Downsides for me are that it's actually sometimes nice to see a woman in sexy clothes (not just underwear) before the fun. I also like the nightclub type venues and the upselling in many FKKs gets very annoying.

I've always found the LU at Vive to be literally the best anywhere I've mongered. And that includes, USA, Canada, Australia, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, South Africa, UK, Poland, Ireland, Holland, Germany and a lot of Spain. (Jesus having typed that I just realised that I need to give this up! As you stated in your Oceans post about yourself. You are picky. But then I believe I'm the same. I've just always found that the level of the top girls at Vive is far better than any other venue including the celebrated Miladys Palace in Marbella where the girls are still 300 euros p / h.

I've had great sessions at about 12 FKK clubs in Germany including Sharks (where I think it often disappoints) with some terrific girls. But whereas in any FKK I typically find that there might be 5 out of 80 girls I'd really want to session with, at Vive I always struggle to choose one as I always find so many 9's and 10's that I am spoilt for choice. The pricing is really not good. Far too expensive when Estark isn't that far away at half price and whilst it is small and there may only be 4/5 girls I'd select, it's cheap. But for you to have found the LU in Vive less than at Sharks is really surprising to me and I can only think you got really unlucky.

I've not been to Globe. Put off by pricing. Let me know if you think I'm mistaken on that and should visit. But for Shoes and Socks benefit I'd say that he should definitely still head to Vive and I think he'll enjoy it. If it is no good. Do NOT go to HOT. It is awful and expensive. Grab a cab and go to Estark. Which is at Hotel Diana Plus. Cab ride from Vive won't be cheap = probably 40 euros. But rather than blow 220 for an hour at Vive if the LU is poor then get to Estark and pay 150 or less for an hour.

I was in Vive only 4 weeks ago and the LU was, as ever, incredibly good. As they say, YMMV.

[ShoesAndSocks]

But for Shoes and Socks benefit I'd say that he should definitely still head to Vive and I think he'll enjoy it. I was in Vive only 4 weeks ago and the LU was, as ever, incredibly good. As they say, YMMV.Hey, I'm still going. I think in the end you've got to check out the LUs for yourself. I've rattled around to most of the big FKK venues, had a lot of fun doing so, and sorted out which ones consistently deliver for me - Globe and Artemis.

My tastes are pretty broad, and like you the contrast of dressed vs naked is strangely appealing.

Re Globe, if you ever get to Zurich, I'd strongly recommend giving it a visit. If the pricing is too much, try one of its sister clubs like FKK Swiss, Club Palace (near Lucerne), or Club History near Basel. Same high service levels, but around 25% less.

[Delta Indigo]

Hi DI. I've read several of your posts (e. G. On FKK Oceans recently which has persuaded me to to there this week!) and you are always very balanced as opposed to some members of ISG who will rant about this club and that club. So I value your views.

I've made that clear here as I was quite shocked to read your take on Vive. Over the last 5 years I've been there probably as much as I have to any FKK. Completely different experience of course. Upsides of FKKs are being surrounded by lots of naked girls, outdoor possibilities and being there the whole day if you want. Downsides for me are that it's actually sometimes nice to see a woman in sexy clothes (not just underwear) before the fun. I also like the nightclub type venues and the upselling in many FKKs gets very annoying.

I've always found the LU at Vive to be literally the best anywhere I've mongered. And that includes, USA, Canada, Australia, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, South Africa, UK, Poland, Ireland, Holland, Germany and a lot of Spain. (Jesus having typed that I just realised that I need to give this up! As you stated in your Oceans post about yourself. You are picky. But then I believe I'm the same. I've just always found that the level of the top girls at Vive is far better than any other venue including the celebrated Miladys Palace in Marbella where the girls are still 300 euros p / h.

I've had great sessions at about 12 FKK clubs in Germany including Sharks (where I think it often disappoints) with some terrific girls. But whereas in any FKK I typically find that there might be 5 out of 80 girls I'd really want to session with, at Vive I always struggle to choose one as I always find so many 9's and 10's that I am spoilt for choice. The pricing is really not good. Far too expensive when Estark isn't that far away at half price and whilst it is small and there may only be 4/5 girls I'd select, it's cheap. But for you to have found the LU in Vive less than at Sharks is really surprising to me and I can only think you got really unlucky.

I've not been to Globe. Put off by pricing. Let me know if you think I'm mistaken on that and should visit. But for Shoes and Socks benefit I'd say that he should definitely still head to Vive and I think he'll enjoy it. If it is no good. Do NOT go to HOT. It is awful and expensive. Grab a cab and go to Estark. Which is at Hotel Diana Plus. Cab ride from Vive won't be cheap = probably 40 euros. But rather than blow 220 for an hour at Vive if the LU is poor then get to Estark and pay 150 or less for an hour.

I was in Vive only 4 weeks ago and the LU was, as ever, incredibly good. As they say, YMMV.I admit I was quite drunk last night. I love Spanish ham and red wine, and Spain is an incredibly cheap place to eat and drink yourself to abandon.

So I am going again tonight and will give it another go. I was not happy with the service either, but my radar was not very sharp.

I will give it another go and not be drunk this time.

[PayForIt]

I admit I was quite drunk last night. I love Spanish ham and red wine, and Spain is an incredibly cheap place to eat and drink yourself to abandon.

So I am going again tonight and will give it another go. I was not happy with the service either, but my radar was not very sharp.

I will give it another go and not be drunk this time.How incredibly honest. We share a like for Spanish ham and wine! Hope you enjoy it moreasy tonight.

[Delta Indigo]

How incredibly honest. We share a like for Spanish ham and wine! Hope you enjoy it moreasy tonight.The lineup was good at 10:00 pm but not the best I had seen anywhere but good. If you are sick of Romanian girls in CH and Germany the lineup is better but otherwise the Globe is better. Why didn't I like it? First 2 girls insisted on a CBJ while I was inquiring about their services.

I will not pay Globe prices for a CBJ, so I left. In my opinion it is like FKK palace in Frankfurt with even worse service potentially. Sorry PayForIt I do not like this place. I will check out Diana+ tomorrow.

[PayForIt]

The lineup was good at 10:00 pm but not the best I had seen anywhere but good. If you are sick of Romanian girls in CH and Germany the lineup is better but otherwise the Globe is better. Why didn't I like it? First 2 girls insisted on a CBJ while I was inquiring about their services.

I will not pay Globe prices for a CBJ, so I left. In my opinion it is like FKK palace in Frankfurt with even worse service potentially. Sorry PayForIt I do not like this place. I will check out Diana+ tomorrow.Hey DI. No need for any apologies to me! The wonderful thing about this hobby we all have is that it's a bit like food. We don't all like the same thing! And it's a good job we don't! It would be a nightmare if everyone ate the same thing and for us mongers it would be pretty sad if we all liked the same club / same girls / same environment. There can be absolutely no doubt that the pricing at Vive is very offputting.

In recent trips to Madrid I have favored Diana+ over Vive for precisely that reason. Don't get me wrong. What you will find at Diana is a very small club which would fit into Vive 10 times! It is very intimate. You enter, there are bars in front of you and to the left. There is nowhere to relax without girls being all around you and approaching. I find in Vive you can walk around and though they try to attract your attention you can avoid having to speak to lots of girls you would not be interested in. That's not the case at Diana where you will find around 30-40 girls and of them there are usually about 4 or 5 8's 9's and no 10's. The rest are older, or not slim, or not pretty.

But the vibe Diana is much better than Vive in terms of the girls being clearly very happy. There is a higher percentage of EE girls at Diana. Even today, Sunday, you will find it is fairly busy. I've been on several Sundays and it's still good. Prices for the best girls are 150 euros for the hour. You will get others offering you 100 for the hour but they are not busy and need the cash.

I've never been to Globe and would really like to try it as the LU gets great reviews -but I've been put off by cost again. Please let me know if you thing I should just take a punt and go for it.

Sorry Vive isn't your bag. But as stated above. It's actually a good thing that we all see it differently. I recently had an absolutely fantastic time in FKK Sakura Stuttgart only for several guys on that thread to tell me it's awful! I also find Sharks very hit and miss but most guys who go there love it! To each their own.

Finally, if you are finding after a while in Diana+ that it is dead, jump a cab to Factory Air (for address go to Madrid reports of distinction and you won't need to scroll much to PussyLickers terrific report with all addresses of all Madrid clubs). Factory will be dead on Sunday night. You'll do well to see 10 girls working before midnight. Ask the barmaid if Julia is working. Romanian (says she is half Italian! One of the best bodies you'll find in Madrid. Face is pretty when she has make up on, fun girl, 150 euros for the hour, decent service but you will not take your eyes off her body. Slim, athletic (clearly goes to the gym) an ass to kill for, natural see cups. It's a delight.

Good hunting my friend. I'm off to Oceans based on Tuesday based on recent good reports including yours, Oase or Sharks Wednesday and probably Living Room Thursday. I cannot persuade myself to do the journeys to GT or ACA. So Thursday is back to Oceans or over to LR.

Enjoy the rest of your time in Madrid and do please let us know how you get on at Diana+.

[Delta Indigo]

Actually my hotel is very close to Vive and I can't be bothered going to Diana+.

I also like very attractive girls and prefer having some space to move in, so based on your input I will give Vive another go.

Just one good session is what I need to get going.

[Almalm]

I have an afternoon, evening and night in Madrid next week after visiting an old uni-friend.

I am planning on seeing 4 x girls and was going to split this 2 at vive and 2 over at the club at hotel Diana.

However, do you think it is worth a punt with a street girl from around calle Grand Via also?

I have never had the nerve with a street girl, and it sounds fun but risky.

Too much risk?

[LikeGirls]

I repeatedly emailed this agency (www.oasisdemadrid.com). They advertise numerous attractive girls in a professional manner. I don't know if they even exist given their inability to respond to emails in their native language.

By contrast, I can recommend www.placermadrid.es. Have had several girls there. All provided a strong GFE, especially Nerea.

Does anyone know any independents available during the mornings? I sent out several SMS's to girls I found on sexobarato. Es and never received a single reply.

[Mongerer88]

I repeatedly emailed this agency (www.oasisdemadrid.com). They advertise numerous attractive girls in a professional manner. I don't know if they even exist given their inability to respond to emails in their native language.

By contrast, I can recommend www.placermadrid.es. Have had several girls there. All provided a strong GFE, especially Nerea.

Does anyone know any independents available during the mornings? I sent out several SMS's to girls I found on sexobarato. Es and never received a single reply.I saw this independent that I reviewed at either 8 am or 9 am. She was very accommodating regarding the time and there were no upsells. She responded promptly to the whatsapp message. I sent a lot of email messages to various agencies in researching Madrid and several of them did not reply at all.

http://madrid.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-young-engish-girl-wants-to-please-you/6187674

[Ibrahimovic]

https://www.slumi.com/castigame-en-la-cruz-por-puta-sumisa-luna-ex-de-general-yague-griego-garganta-profunda-con-arcadas-id-b9pg8

Submissive Venezuelan girl located close to Metro Estrecho. Her pictures are quite accurate albeit a bit heavier in real life. Pretty big natural tits and decent looking face. I estimate her to be in her early thirties. No english spoken. She sent a thorough list of services and prices on whatsapp which helped communication. 70 E for one hour including BBBJ, anal, CIF. I choose one hour with submission included for 100 E (medium level of submission she calls it). She offered good kissing, deepthroat and allowed rough facefucking, hard fucking and spanking. The apartment is clean and it's possible to have a shower after. Good value for money and could definitely repeat for the superb submissive oral.

[Ibrahimovic]

Whiskeria Estark:

I arrived at this place at 7 pm on a Friday. Went with metro (line 1) to Atocha Renfe where there are plenty of taxis waiting. 15-20 E each way to Hotel Diana Plus. The place was busy considering the early hour with maybe 30 girls and almost as many visitors. The girls wearing skimpy outfits, bikinis etc. So easier to get an idea of the girls body as compared to Vive. There were four or five possible girls for my taste during the hour I stayed. The prettiest was only paying attention to her cell phone and sitting closed in by other girls. Didn't feel comfortable to approach her for an interview. Right on cue as some space opened up next to her, another punter entered the venue and choose that space in the bar and picked her up. So I settled for Dominikan Estrella. Young looking, very petite. Tiny natural tits and perky little ass. 60 E for half hour. Estrella had a nice playful attitude and the session was pretty relaxed and fun despite lacking in communication (speaks no english). BBBJ and kissing included. I guess it would make more sense to stay a little bit longer at Estark given the long hike and taxi cost to get there. But I felt the confined space and lack of numbers would make a wait between sessions a bit boring. So left to make a late night visit to Vive.

Vive:

I thought the LU was a little bit less impressing at Vive compared to my first visit in December. But could probably be influenced by the first visit always being a little bit more exciting. I had the pleasure to meet Babi (from Brazil) Youngest looking girl in the crowd and very cute face. She told me that it was her first week in the place and she was a bit shy, never seemed to approach anyone. Spending some time with her in the bar she came out of her shell. Personable girl with good conversation skills. Offered DFK but I forgot to ask for BBBJ in advance so didn't push for that. She has an amazing body for anyone who likes the young petite type, the most girlish soft tits. The service was unrushed and definitely above average in attitude.

Next night in Vive I met Jessica from Colombia. Probably about 35 years but beautiful face with full lips and sparkling eyes. Sillicone and big hard culo. She gave some decent DFK and BBBJ. Did everything with a smile but the service was a bit stressed, giving the feeling that she was in a rush to get back to the bar. All night long I was trying to get to this really natural looking, pretty girl. Curly chestnut coloured hair, thin, glasses, beautiful smile. However she was very popular and hung out with a group everytime I spotted her. So I picked another girl with glasses and a little more serious look, though not as pretty. This was Fran from Brazil, ash blonde hair and some sexy tanlines. Agreed to DFK and BBBJ, pretty good and patient service.