Madrid

[Josanam]

Josanam,

Can you provide me direction to get to the joint.

ThanksHello,

It is situated in the southern area of the town, close to MercaMadrid (the central food market of Spain), on the M-40 exit 19b (follow the signs 'CTM', Centro de Transportes de Madrid).

For more details and (little) map, see one of my previous posts, #961

You need a car or taxi to reach it because there is no bus or metro station in the close vicinity.

[Uwishyouwereme]

Hi all. Thanks for the nice words about my posts. I hope they help some people. Also, please don't take my post as "bad". I just believe it's essential to give honest and accurate opinions about these places. I've read all these reports before my trip and had a high expectation of the place because everyone and their brother was saying it's so good. Maybe for Spain it's ok but on a worldwide scale it wouldn't rank that high.

Yes, I realize that many guys are on a tighter budget and if that is the case then it may be different. I was not on any budget and I AM the type that would rather pay more to get a bigger and better variety of beautiful girls. Again, maybe I just went on a bad night. I don't know.

My last night I didn't do any P2P. I got very lucky. I met a normal girl from one of the social networking type websites. She took me out to some cool bars and I went out with her friends. She was really cool and a pretty girl. She had a boyfriend but that didn't seem to matter much. We hit some trendy places. If you are out and about check out the PentHouse which is a cool bar on top of a hotel. It was near my hotel. We went out all night and then at the end of the night I simply asked her to come back to my hotel and she gladly did! I had a great time.

I definitely would go back to Spain for the overall experience but for the P2P I'd save your money for South America. Your dollar goes a LOT further. You can hit places like Buenos Aires, Rio de Janeiro, Sao Paulo, even Lima had a better selection of girls that were higher end.

I admit for Europeans, South America is a long 'hike' but there is more to do in South America than just girls. Brazil has some beautiful beaches and cities like Buenos Aires are beautiful with lots to see and do. Spain is definitely a great country and I'd consider moving here for a year or two to live life in a great country.

Stay safe all.

[Henri Dufresne]

Hi Youwishywereme,

Can you please be more precise ?

Could you please tell us what is the website where you met this girl ?

It would be very nice if you could tell where did you go out in Madrid ? Also what as the time when you went out there.

Thank you very much

[Henri Dufresne]

I'd like to know if some you guys had some one nite stand in Madrid.

If yes, can you tell me your experience?

Where, When, how.

Thank you.

I saw 2 main problems in Madrid.

1/ The cute girls don't go out so much compared to other cities I visited.

2/ The spanish girls seems to be unreachable and on Saturday nite, it is crazy I got the feeling there are 8 guys for 2 girls.

I went out close to Tribunal / Alonso Martinez. First, girls are pretty young there.

The Speakeasy. Young girls always with guys.

Cafe de Paris. Nest of cute spanish girls. But they are all in a network of friends unreachable. Aeina on Hortaleza. That's the place to go to see the cute girls from Madrid anytime anyday but it is always full. And all the cute girls get along with guys. The most beautiful is the spanish girl highest is the amount of guys around.

I went out in many places in Hortaleza too who looks like tabernas but that was rubbish.

Pacha club: Once a cute girls enter the club the guys attack. One Friday nite I was dancing behind a girl and 4 guys tried one after one! And all the guys were brushed away by the girl.

So if you got also some good point with cute girls as well, I'm interested.

Bye guys.

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[Out for Flesh]

So if you got also some good point with cute girls as well, I'm interested.


Bars in Hortaleza (especially the quieter ones) are, IMHO, good if you want to spend a refreshing night with a date you are likely to score. Look for those in the side streets, and the jazz-style bars. The pub-type places are, IMHO, crap - and I've been there hundreds of times. Nearly impossible to make any sensible attack. Same thing for Santa Ana surroundings. I have to admit that I am a one-on-one person.

My all-time favorite place is a night club / disco called "El Sol", in Calle Jardines. This is a parallel to Gran Via which starts at Montera and ends in (IIRC) Virgen de los Peligros. Beware: I have not been there in years. The place has no sign at the entrance - if you pass by in the evening you may no realize it is there. It used to open around midnight, with peak times around 3 to 4 am, and it used to close around 6 or 6:30.

The inside is (was) nothing to write home about. In fact, the decoration is (was?) basically non-existent or, at most, frugal. However, the vibes in the place were always superb. And girls do not mind being approached.

I'd recommend a visit. But again, I have not been there in a long time. There used to be a cover charge. If there still is, this is probably a good sign (they are not starving). I'd love to have any up-to-date information about that place!

Best!

[Out for Flesh]

Hi all. Thanks for the nice words about my posts. I hope they help some people. Also, please don't take my post as "bad". I just believe it's essential to give honest and accurate opinions about these places. I've read all these reports before my trip and had a high expectation of the place because everyone and their brother was saying it's so good. Maybe for Spain it's ok but on a worldwide scale it wouldn't rank that high.

Hi. I, personally, by no means meant to mark as "bad" a report which spotted bad and good points. As I said, it is a _very_ good report (and the rest of your contributions).

I agree that excess of appraisal may have made you be disappointed with Flowers Park. Same thing happened to me the first time I went to Riviera, in Barcelona. BTW, both are owned by the same person/people.

In its class, Flowers Park is a good place for Spain. I personally like that it is not too small, but the chicks are close to you. Other places (like Factory Air, also same owners) is so big (in comparison, that is) that it looks half empty. And the providers there are of really lower quality (sampled last thursday both places).

I too use to monger abroad. Never been to Brazil (though I usually choose Brazilian gals here in Spain), but Buenos Aires has been my hunting ground several time. I _love_ the city Plus, since I am a native speaker from Spain, that seems to have some effect in the girls. I usually have some sort of connection with Argentine girls. I have also been in Chile. Not bad experiences there, but the selection is thinner. I go often to Brussels, but there I always end up using some massage place. FKKs is something I still have to try, but since eastern girls are usually not my cup of tea, I am not sure I will really enjoy it.

Best regards - and, yes, stay safe!

[Henio]

...FKKs is something I still have to try, but since eastern girls are usually not my cup of tea, I am not sure I will really enjoy it.
Lots of SA girls in the FKKs as well. You will enjoy it for sure

Chivaz

[Mike81]

Hello,

It is situated in the southern area of the town, close to MercaMadrid (the central food market of Spain), on the M-40 exit 19b (follow the signs 'CTM', Centro de Transportes de Madrid).

For more details and (little) map, see one of my previous posts, #961

You need a car or taxi to reach it because there is no bus or metro station in the close vicinity.I was in Madrid last week without a car and you can get to Estark with a combination of metro and cab though it's much easier if you can drive yourself. If you take metro line 1 to Villa De Vallecas there is a taxi stand outside the station though you may need to wait for a taxi to show up, it should cost about €5-€7 to Estark. To get back you can get the hotel reception to call you a taxi, the taxi meter starts from when they leave to pick you up so it will have 5-7 euro on it already. When I headed back last week the taxi driver took me to Sierra De Guadalupe metro station which seems to be much closer to Estark (total fare 8 euro from Estark including 5 euro already on the meter) but I did not see any other taxis or a taxi rank there.

All in all Estark was great but a pain to get to without your own car or enough of a budget to get a taxi from the centre of Madrid. A slightly easier club to get to is Flowers Park but that's still a 20 minute commuter train trip and a short walk. There are good instructions for this in this forum but I'm not sure which post number.

[Out for Flesh]

Lots of SA girls in the FKKs as well. You will enjoy it for sure

Hum. Sounds interesting. Which countries are they usually from? I would bet for Brazil and Coumbia - right? Going from madrid to germany is pretty cheap, so I may be as well pay a visit during summer holidays....

[Henri Dufresne]

Ok yesterday,

I took the Linea 1 to Villa de Vallecas. Arrived there around 20h. First, I the like to say the area that surrounds this stations is totally safe. It is a middle class worker suburb. I asked a first taxi to go to Diana Plus hotel. He refused to take me there, sayin he didn't know where it was.

I asked a second taxi that accepted to go there. So, We went there. On the way to The Diana plus hotel. I was wondering why the people here said the area was dangerous. I only saw families in the street. I arrived at the Diana plus hotel. It is local in a Transport Centre. There is a car park guard at the entry. Once again, everything is very safe around the Diana Plus hotel. The guys are pretty cool. Facing the Diana plus hotel, The club is up the stairs on the left. The reception is on the right. I entered the bar and rapidly understood it was far better that Vive Madrid in terms of girls quality. They got everything breast / Ass / good face. Few of them are ugly. They don't take themselves like supermodels.

I took Sabrina, Romanian, 95B, very skinny, Blue eyes and tall. 30 min: 70 € I paid directly to the lady. (so no cards). No rush. There is no guys behind the door.

Washing / CBBBJ / Many positions / GFE / FK No CIM No Anal

I think I spent in real 45 minutes.

When I wanted to come it has been a nightmare as well. I called on my own a cab, they said to me there were no available taxi. So, I ve been to the reception and asked for a taxi but I waited for perhaps 30 minutes before getting a taxi. 8€

So the main problem for the Diana plus hotel it is how to get there and come back.

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[Travisblue200]

I really would like to try Diana. Anyone willing to share petrol fees, I'll contribute.

I've sent a number of reports about 'pro'clubs on this site. But, I wanted to ask does anyone know (sorry if I seem nieve) about swinger or single bars advertised. One site, and I live near the bar is called 100. Momentos. They advertise all kinds, and if you are a single male 60 E for entrance +'drinks.

Has anyone had a good expèrience inside?

Thank you,

Travis Blue

[Nicholai Hel]

Thanks,

The addresse is Calle GO,19, bajo 2 as far as I can remember.

The closest metro is Delicias.


Nicolai,

Great report and a much better experience. Forgive my naiveness, but where is GO located?

[Henri Dufresne]

For the ones who wonder. I'the like to say the Diana is a good place.

The girls got attractive bodies there. If you look for boobs you got girls with boobs. If you look for teenlike punt, you got it. If you look for good ass you got it as well.

Actually, you're not forced to have a drink there.

The place is a bit small. But you got so many girls. It is worth it to travel a long journey to access to the Diana. It is open everyday.

Everybody can see you straight away.

My only advice would be: "go there early during the week". In order not to be stuck with the taxi. Anyway the girls are there everyday. So there is no problem.

If some of you guys would like to plan a journey to the Diana plus next week, and if some of you got a car. Please write to me. We will share the gaz.

[Email address deleted by Admin]

Actually I understood it is better to go with other guys because you can resist when a girl come to you. And take time to take a look carefully because the light are very low. And you can have surprise when going up with a girl.

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[Lars Kongo]

I´m going back to Madrid soon and it would be great to know if anyone have heard of any new chinese place ass the old ones seems to be gone.

[Travisblue200]

[QUOTE=Henri Dufresne]For the ones who wonder. I'the like to say the Diana is a good place.

I sent one message last week, one person replying saying they would share petrol costs to Club Diana. One reply. Part of which is above.

I have never ben to Diana, I have heard good stories about the place, but I know the area in Madrid where it is very dangerous. For this reason for asked for a comapnion.

I cannot understand why he his Emai address was deleted; the perspon who replied. Isn't it safer in bad parts of a city thatpeople go in two's/ groups.

I am sure you have reasons for your policy, but I hope you can undersatnd my point.

Regards and thank you for this site.

Travis

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Greetings Travisblue200,

It appears that you inadverently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.

The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look for them in the text. Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". It's that simple.

In addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in The Forum.

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[Hizark21]

Is any good street action in Madrid...??

[El Burro]

[QUOTE=Henri Dufresne]
I sent one message last week, one person replying saying they would share petrol costs to Club Diana.

Travis, I attempted to send you a Private Message however it seems that you may have blocked this funtion? If you're able you may click my handle and send your own pm with contact details. I drop in to Estark from time to time. It's correct that the place is located in a dodgy part of the city and I've suffered a spot of hassle there in the past though nothing too serious. The area is known as a drug dealing supermarket. But my main issue with this club is its small unpleasant bar. The place gets absolutely mobbed at peak times. It's shoulder to shoulder with punters and you can barely breath with the smoke.

I followed the recent comments on Flowers Park. For sure the environment there has changed since I first arrived in
Madrid 4 years ago. But that is true thoughout the Spanish club scene due to increasing pressure from the authorities to prevent chicas without documentation operating from these venues. The consequence is that FP is mainly staffed by babes who've been on the scene for some time and have developed a more professional approach. Nonetheless there are very good looking women there and if you use common sense it is possible to pick the kind hearted ladies. I sort of fell out of love with the place when they started charging the ladies 75€ per night to use a room hence the babes attempt to hire out their services at 80€. Call me a tight fisted old Burro but my pyscological upper limit is 60€ which could easily be secured but now I'm having to pay 70€. This may not be an issue to visitors but those rates are higher than what I pay everywhere else I play.

I'd say that FP is probably the best option for chaps on a brief visit to Madrid. Perhaps the likes of Viva Nirvana mentioned already is another good option if it's difficult to travel out of the city or your budget can stand it. In my experience I did not detect any difference in quality of babes between FP and Nirvana. Also Factory Air I suppose? Well, I've enjoyed a couple of nice sessions in the relax rooms there and like the bar but the vibe can be a bit low key. And of course there's Lovely and that disney style venue in Mosteles....possibilities if you have the time

There are many other options for guys that live here or will be based in Madrid for a while. A car is essential to tour the out of town clubs. In all there must be some 30 venues within striking distance. The quality is hit and miss so it can be a case of dropping in to one venue for a beer then moving on to the next. Otherwise there are numerous private apartments, pseudo massage parlours and independent ladies within reach of the city metro system. Budget ranges from the cheap and nasty "Fast Fuck" establishments up to any price you care to think of. I enjoy exploring this scene and have enjoyed the good, the bad and the ugly. Again this mode of pursuit is very hit and miss and requires a lot of time and patience. I often visit 3 or 4 houses during an afternoon/evening before I settle with a girl I fancy. Also requires knowledge of Spanish (or even Portuguese!) as most places don't speak English, in particular the downmarket establishments. If anyone is goona be in town for a while then feel free to get in touch with me (PM).

[Out for Flesh]

[...] Call me a tight fisted old Burro but my pyscological upper limit is 60€ which could easily be secured but now I'm having to pay 70€.
[...]

Also Factory Air I suppose?
[...]

And of course there's Lovely
[...]

and that disney style venue in Mosteles
[...]



I agree with all El Burro says. Just some points:

* I went to Factory Air some 3 weeks ago (not having been there for almost 1 year) and I was _very_ disappointed about the overall quality. Yes, there were some nice looking girls, but...

* If you travel until Lovely (N-I) you may as well go some extra kilometers and hit El Mirador, in Pedrezuela (you have to go pass it and turn back to Madrid). It has been always a reasonable place for me.

* What is this "Disney style" place??? Never heard of it (or, maybe I heard of / been to, but the "Disney" thing has really shocked me!

Best!

[Nicholai Hel]

Well, at the end I had the chance to go to Flower's Park. First of all, be careful not to take the train to alcala from principe pio station because you can find yourself in the middle of nowhere like me. The right train to take is Villalba and they leave from the same platform. If you are stupid like me and take it, get off at las rozas and wait for the train to Villalba which passes from Las Matas where FP is. After the train station it's 5 minutes walk to FP and it's very safe.

I didn't have to pay any entrance fee at 2 days that I went there. I just said hola and entered into the bar. To be honest, I expected a bigger place. The bar is huge and does not leave much space for the girls and the customers to hang around, in my opinion. On a Friday night we went at about 22pm and there were many girls. Overall I think the quality of the girls were high despite some other stuff I read in this forum. I have seen at least 5 girls I'the fuck with a seconds thought. That night I wasn't in the mood and I was there for my friend who was fooled the moment I started to speak with a brazilian mature. When I turned around he was gone. He's a bit inexperienced and I learned later that he paid 10 euros for the sheets which is normally 5 euros and the girl asked for 90 euros, 20 euros more than the normal price saying that he can stay longer. The girl's name is Lina and she's from Brazil, avoid her. The second night we arrived she immediately attacked us again and was saying to my friend this time in the ass. I told her to go away in a mean manner. Anyway, I started to speak with some girls who can be very pushy. I simply told I have no money with me and they were starting to ask me how much I have. The more beautiful ones just mention their price and do not negotiate at all. You can see how some of them can indeed be very bitchy: approaching you with arms wide open in a sluty manner and leaving you the second you tell them you have no money with an ugly expression on their faces. The better ones don't seem to bother. I spoke with another Brazilian who was called Jessica and she was nice (not a type I described above- I guess I can understand them with even from their looks) half-bred with nice tits. While speaking, I touched her ass and kissed her a bit and told her that I'm going to come next night to fuck her. Then I started to talk with another girl who was almost half-naked. I asked her whether I can come on her face or on her mouth. She said somethings in spanish that I couldn't understand, but it seemed she didn't like it. I really don't understand that. Well, I find it pretty normal to fantasize such things so I really think after a while these will all be standards. Before it was also difficult to find girls who did BBBJ, but now it's pretty normal. Anyway, eventually my friend arrived and we left the place.

The second night, on Saturday, we arrived at about 7pm. And the quality of the girls were better than yesterday. My friend went with a black girl. I first spoke with a Bulgarian blonde who seemed bored. She asked for 85 euros to which I said too much. But she was very sexy, blonde tall. Then I approached a black haired girl who didn't even look like a prostitute. She had a style in a way. She was called aleksandra and she was from Romania. I tried to pull the price down to 60 after she asked me for 70 but then I started to walk around a bit more. Those two are on my list to fuck next when I go back there. But I'm pretty sure their performance will be much lower than south american girls.

Few minutes later, I saw a gorgeous girl. She was from Colombia and her name was Maria. She said 70 euros and 5 euors for the sheets. I asked her whether I can fuck twice in 30 minutes. She said it's ok and we went upstairs. The girl was simply gorgeous. Silicon boobs, nice ass and a nice face. First she washed me and then we came back to the room and I started to kiss her a bit, to which she didn't say no. Then she started to suck me without condom. I told her to keep her shoes on and I told her that I want to be standing. She kneeled down and started to suck me and my balls. I like doing nasty things and I pushed her head to my balls and she didn't say anything. Thats the kind of girl I like! Then she stopped. She wasn't particularly good, but I had my fun. I told her to suck me more and she kept on sucking my penis and my balls. I moved her head upside down a bit. Then I laid down on the bed and she kept on sucking me a bit like this while I spanked her gorgeous ass. Spanking and she doesn't say anything. I liked that too.

Then she put the condom on and I was already about to come. She on top of me, we did it like that for few minutes and I spanked her and kissed her. Then I asked her whether we can do it twice since I was about to come but she said we can do it only once. I'm pretty sure she said we could repeat downstairs but I really didn't care much since she was giving me a great treatment. So I tried to keep myself from coming. I took it out and gave my balls to her again and she started to lick and suck them and I began to push her head down again. It was great. Then I fucked her a bit more in the missionary position. Hell, I was so close to coming. I was kissing her, licking her neck.

Then I decided to finish in doggy style. Incredibly nice ass. I spanked the shit out of her. I simply wanted to fuck her longer and longer but she started to move her ass and bounce on my dick and I came while I was spanking her crazily. It was a perfect experience. I like Chinese places and they are surely better value for the money. However, by no means, there could be as gorgeous girla as Maria over there. And I'm pretty sure those romanians or bulgarians would complain to much of the things I did to Maria. Next time I'll ask for a COF or CIM and for anal sex to Maria. I didn't ask for those and I really wonder whether she'the do those. By the way, she told me that it was her first day in FP and that she worked elsewhere before. Later, she also told me that for 2 fucks one has to pay for an hour which makes 150 euros. I didn't need to discuss what she told me downstairs before since I had great time and my spanish could get stuck.

Overall, FP is a great place. Thanks to Out For Flesh for recommending it to me. There are many different girls which could satisfy many different tastes. I have never been to high class clubs where you pay 200 euros for a girl but I think that even if I had a lot of money FP would be just enough for me. Eventually I'm not marrying those girls but I'm just having some great time. Maria, highly recommended!

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[Nicholai Hel]

I wrote few reports about this place. It's not particularly good but I had few nice experiences there. I stopped by today to see how they are doing. There's this Chinese girl that I've been with. Not beautiful at all but she simply does all I want. She told me the last time that she likes the way I look so I decided to stop by and have a deal for 30 euros. Indeed it worked. When she saw me she was happy and even before negotiating we started to have fun on the sofa. It's a very small place and there are only 2 girls. There was also a girl called Juria who is damn pretty but she no longer works. Anyway, this girl, whose name I always forget, agreed on 30 euros and we went to the room. She's not by any means close to the standards of Maria (read my previous report) but she's really like a fuck toy. She does everything! I simply made her eat my penis and my balls in 30 minutes and she kinda licked all around including my ass. I DTed her for a while and she almost took it all. Then even without asking I came on her mouth a bit and then on her face. She gave me a nice CIM before, so I know this was ok but I didn't know whether COF was ok; and I didn't even bother. I just took it out and jerked off to her face while holding her head with one hand. Indeed this was no problem. And with my cum on her face I gave it to her mouth again and she kept on sucking me. That ***** is simply incredible. I had my fun and left the place with a small on my face. I will miss Madrid.

[Schaf29]

Hi All,

After a nice trip to Damascus I arrived a day later in Madrid and needed to see the scene immediately. So I followed the advise and went to the China girls- well, the girl I met was not bad looking, quite nice actually, but not very enthusiastic. She had an enourmos bear down there, gave me a BBBJTC and thats it, but it was not really a good one. And all this for 50Euro.

Just now I come back from the street scene off Grand Via. During the day in this busy street there were about 25 girls working. I went with a small Rumanian red head, white skirt, red blouse and got a BBBJTC. She stayed on request on high heels and in her short skirt, good job for just 25Euro (including the shitty room). Recommendable, there were some more nice girls there, maybe I will test some more later tonight. Tomorrow heading off to Athens, but there it seems to be very bad.

Have fun,

S

[Mamba123]

Hi,

Can anyone can recommend on good reliable escort agencies, with specific girls recommendation to invite to my hotel for 1 hour.

Thanks

[Pistolaso]

Hi,

Can anyone can recommend on good reliable escort agencies, with specific girls recommendation to invite to my hotel for 1 hour.

ThanksMamba,

If you do a Google, you will find 10+ Escort Agencies in Madrid. I have used www.datelight.com a couple of times. Their fee is EUR 250 per hour. It was OK, nothing special. Most Escort agencies in Madrid will charge between 300 - 500 per hour. Escort agencies with Spanish girls will charge more than those that have girls from Eastern Europe and South America.

Many years ago, when de US dollar was stronger that the EURO, I did try a couple of Escort agencies with Spanish girls. It was worth it then, now with the weak dollar, I don't think so. The Spanish girls who do Escort tend to be part timers, the Eastern Europeans and South Americans are most of the time fulltimers Escort and many of them also work in some of the local clubs.

So this is my recommendation. If you have the money, go with an agency that has Spanish girls. If you want to stay in the EUR 300 budget, instead of trying your luck with an escort agency, invest your time and go to one of the take out clubs/bar (D'Angelo, Pigmalion, Michelangelo) and bring a girl to your room for the same amount. The advantage is that you will get to see the lady in advance before you bring her to your room.

Good luck!

[Out for Flesh]

Spent some hours in FP last Friday. I was prepared for some hours because I wanted to check out and make a careful selection.

I have to say that I had not been there in some weeks / months, and the girls have mostly been renewed. However, it seems to me that a sizeable amount of providers were, let's say, in their late thirties. That didn't use to be the case. Maybe the owners are trying to cater for some segment who is fond of these ladies. I am not (at the moment, at least).

Anyway, I checked several girls. I talked with Monna Lisa (for those who don't know her, she is a tanned Brazilian young girl very nicely dressed who promises and who does not deliver - avoid her) but I of course did not go upstair with her.

I finally chose Denise, a Romanian petite, smiley, dressed in what resembles one of these jap girls with obsession for manga. We arranged the deal (no anal, as expected :-(), but OK with everything else including spanking. Went upstairs, no big attitude change in the room. Performance was ok, regular BBBJ, DFK, didn't ask about CIM. But nothing to write home about.

I, not being fond of Romanians, cannot say that this one was a bad experience. But it has not made me fond of Romanians, either. Summarizing,

Place: Flower park
Girl: Denise
Type: black hair, (very) white skin, petite, small breasts
Attitude: 7
Looks: 6
Performance: 6
Will repeat: no

[Robser]

Spent some hours in FP last Friday. I was prepared for some hours because I wanted to check out and make a careful selection.

I have to say that I had not been there in some weeks / months, and the girls have mostly been renewed.

I finally chose Denise, a Romanian petite, smiley, dressed in what resembles one of these jap girls with obsession for manga. We arranged the deal (no anal, as expected :-(), but OK with everything else including spanking. ,



Hi O.F.F. !
Was there also some days ago, looking for Andresa or Diana -oriental russian switch- without luck.
Noticed however one petite girl, dressed like non of the other girls and with kind of "secretary" spectacles. Should that be Denise you mention as "manga dress"?? She was occupied at all time, so couldn't get to her, but if she can be spanked, could try if everything else fails, next time.

Bye

[Out for Flesh]

Was there also some days ago, looking for Andresa or Diana -oriental russian switch- without luck.
Noticed however one petite girl, dressed like non of the other girls and with kind of "secretary" spectacles. Should that be Denise you mention as "manga dress"?? She was occupied at all time, so couldn't get to her, but if she can be spanked, could try if everything else fails, next time.

Hi. Andresa is back in Brazil; I do not remember how long, but proably three or four months. I have never had a session with Diana, although I have read good and bad reports from her. Maybe you have any personal experience you want to share? I am eager to know a bit more about her, because I have been always tempted to go upstair with her, but there was always something stopping me. I have to say that her being a switch is not really a turn on for me, but if she's a good submissive girl, I may consider a session with her. OTOH it's been a while since I do not see her in FP.

Regarding Denise, she was wearing rectangular, black plastic glasses; she was dressed in black as well, and she has black hair. She should be aroun 1.50 m. tall. Spanking -- yes, but not really addicted to it; she does not even pretend to. Ah, she did AR to me withot problems, and BBBJ too. But anal is simply a no-no. "only for my boyfriend". Well, I do not know whether her boyfriend would really appreciate that if he knew the rest of the things she does...

Any news about submissive girls appreciated!!!

[Robser]

Regarding Denise, she was wearing rectangular, black plastic glasses; she was dressed in black as well, and she has black hair. She should be aroun 1.50 m. tall.

That's the same girl I saw, but couldnt get her from having drinks with some other guy. Perhaps will try. Small girls with that black look somehow gets me turned on.

[Out for Flesh]

That's the same girl I saw, but couldnt get her from having drinks with some other guy. Perhaps will try. Small girls with that black look somehow gets me turned on.

In fact I do like that kind of look: petite, kind of innocent face, etc. However, she was a Romanian and I simple do not seem to have a connection with them. Full stop. With my apologies for Romanian girl-lovers.

[Out for Flesh]

Had a session with this Romanian girl yesterday night (late) in FP.

She's petite, pale face, was wearing a miniskirt black dress. I cannot find any distinctive feature to single her out. She speaks some English, for those of you who may find this helpful, but everything between her and me was in Spanish.

I had talked with her a couple of times before, but did not took her seriously, as she's surely not the best looking gal in FP. However it was getting late and I wanted to have some action. I know this is not the right way to proceed but...

Anyway, we negotiated downstars for dfk, some submission play, anal, and AR, and a bit of odd things there. I was sort of plying with her telling her how perverse I am, etc. She seemed genuinely surprised.

Once in the room she sort of got this central european attitude of "let's go on to the bussiness" which I do not really like. In the end she did all we agreed, including CIM and spanking and some face slapping (I had told her before I am a sicko!). Anal was a bit, hum, "we are going to do it because I want to", because she claimed she does not do that usually, but I convinced her and I tried to relax her muscles with some thumb massage. She, obviously, did not want to get relaxed. In the end I managed to stick my little friend in her back - with a bit of pain on her side. Since that was hurting her, she agreed wholeheartedly to a CIM to relieve the pain. So we did.

Total damage was 100E / 45 minutes (which whe used up). She initially asked for 100 E / 30 minutes. Which I of course laughed at and turned down saying her: "do you see that girl there? She quoted me that price and would not budge, and I did not go with her. And she is _really_ beatiful". Which, incidentally, was true of other two of the girls there. (I had turned down other girls, but not really because of the price: I would not have gone upstairs with them even for free).

The overall performance was correct, but again I felt that lack of passion and "I want more" one usually finds in girls from other countries.

To summarize:

looks: 6
attitude: 7
performance: 7
price: 100E / 45 min.
would repeat? No, if I can avoid.

[Out for Flesh]

Was there also some days ago, looking for Andresa or Diana -oriental russian switch- without luck.

Diana was yesterday (late) in FP, so if you take a sit by the hotel stairs you should be able to catch her. She had, BTW, a lot of requests. But, for some reason, she did not look sexy to me this time. She did look "interesting", but no sexy. Especially since I learned that she may very well try use a strap-on on one!

Denise was around, and she came to me twice asking me to go upstairs with her again. I turned down the offer. Now I want something different every day.

[Mamba123]

Any recommendation.

Outcall escorts to my hotel seems too expensive.

Any asian girls or local girls in a clean nice / safe place nearby

[Robser]

diana . she did look "interesting", but no sexy. especially since i learned that she may very well try use a strap-on on one!
.

:lol: don't worry. she has a lot of demand for that, but won't [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you if you don't want her to.

[Out for Flesh]

:lol: don't worry. she has a lot of demand for that, but won't [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you if you don't want her to.

:-) i'd rather use the strap-on myself and give her a double treat. but, would she charge double for that? :-)

[Mamba123]

I walked on the street and saw the place (phone 902 40 20 30)

Looks as very very nice place, ask for price 70 euro for 1 hour.

Get inside with young tahi girl.

What I can say, wonderfull professional thai massage with oil for full hour.

Did ask for extras (massgage to my buddy) but she refused for anything!

Did anybody got into this place and got any extras?

[T Kearney]

Will be visiting soon, but may not have the time for a trip outside the city to Flowers. Can anyone recommend any apartments which are fairly easily accessible? Trouble with some of the sites like fotover is that you don't get much of an idea as to whether the lady is independent or working with others.

Any recommendations? Also, has anyone tried elseptimocielo?

TK

[July Gan]

Yasmin @ septimocielo gets praise locally.

If you speak Spanish I recommend reading www.tumejorcita.com or www.spalumi.com/foro and take your pick. There are plenty of options in central Madrid, particularly if you like brazilians. Average about 150€ p.h


recommend

Will be visiting soon, but may not have the time for a trip outside the city to Flowers. Can anyone recommend any apartments which are fairly easily accessible? Trouble with some of the sites like fotover is that you don't get much of an idea as to whether the lady is independent or working with others.

Any recommendations? Also, has anyone tried elseptimocielo?

TK

[Mamba123]

Yasmin @ septimocielo gets praise locally.

If you speak Spanish I recommend reading www.tumejorcita.com or www.spalumi.com/foro and take your pick. There are plenty of options in central Madrid, particularly if you like brazilians. Average about 150€ p.h

RecommendSpeak english, find it little difficult to manage in Madrid.

Any recommendation on nice brazilian girls that can be ordered to my hotel at madrid (please add phones).

[Creman]

Things are pretty tough when you do not speak Spanish when in Madrid. There seems to be plenty of opportunities but trying to do it without being ripped off or paying too much is tricky. I picked up a copy of El Mondo, a local city paper, and looked up the classifieds and came across the 'relax' section. Couldn't understand much of what was in the advertisements and I then logged onto Google's language translation site. I was amazed as to how grapsoth adverts were offering natural french, anal, rimming etc. It was very clear as to what items were on offer. Some were offering services for as little as 30 Euro although this was for short session of suck and fuck.

I wrote down the numbers of the more appealing advertisements honing in on those that were not too far away from where I was staying (as evidenced by mention of the nearest metro station). Some ads indicated that English was spoken and I took note of these as well.

I went to a public phone booth and started ringing. Nobody could speak English and eventually they would apologetically hang up on me. I picked out one number that was clearly for a brothel rather than private operator - I typed it into my cellphone and then grabbed a taxi and whilst getting into the taxi, I hit the send button and then handed it to the driver indicating that I wanted him to take me there. He spoke to them and gave me back my phone and started driving. 5 minutes later I was there and he wrote down on a piece of paper the Apartment number and floor and pointed to the entrance of the building. The street address was 118 Calle de Alcala in the main part of the Goya area and very close to the metro station there. You can PM me for the apartment number and phone number (well phone number in the ads is listed as being 664720528 if you can speak spanish or want ot try my trick using a taxi driver) if you are serious about trying out this place.

Rang the door bell and was greeted by the receptionist who took me to a room. Couldn't understand a word she said. Place looked clean, neat and tidy. A delightful smiling Spanish girl comes in rambling on in Spanish and me having no idea what she was talking about. She was in her mid to late 20's and slightly overweight but had a good rack. Through sign language, wework out that she would offer BBBJ and CFS at 30Euro for 15 minutes. For 60 Euro, I could have 40 minutes of time. The advert indicated that 90 Euro would get you an hour.

She takes me to the bathroom and gets me to wash my privates and she then dries me off. Back in the room she gave an excellent BJ. She offered Spanish by sign language (and why wouldn't she as a good Spanish girl) but we decided to get on with some CG action and she rode me to completion. She put plenty of energy and effort into it and was overall a very pleasing experience.

So this was a real adventure which was half the fun of the whole exercise and worked out on this occasion. Hope that this is of help to other non-Spanish speakers.

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[Creman]

This is a street walkers venue both day and night in a park in the western side of Madrid city precinct.

I took the subway to Lago station (one station beyond principe pio). It is a 3 to 4 minute downhill walk to the lake - don't worry, you will see it once you get out of the station. Once past all the eating spots, you start seeing the girls wandering around or leaning up against trees. I went at around 5 in the afternoon and was pretty surprised by the talent on display. After checking out the scene for barely 15 minutes, I saw this stunning Romanian girl walking up from an area of 'the woods'. She had a smiling welcoming face and hooray for me, spoke English - she was really excited to have somebody to speak English to. She would have been in her early 20's. Her body was tiny and she had great hooters which I initially thought would have to have been enhanced. We negotiate 20Euro for oral and sex and I insisted on a condom to which responded 'of course'. We also negotiated to 'completo' and she agreed that 10 minutes would be allowed at this price. We walked off to her hiding place in the woods - not far off you coud hear cars going by and people walking along the main road talking - don't forget that this is still very much daytime. She then lifts up her top to reveal a heavenly pair and to my almost shock, were natural. I had a good feel but given the situation, I wasn't going to suck them as somebody else probably has the same day. She puts on the condom and starts giving me a blow job but it is hard to get excited when you feel exposed to the elements. She certainly put a lot of effort into it. She then pulled down her shorts and bent over forwards and I rammed doggy style. I was still feeling a bit anxious and we then switched to cowgirl and she rode me to completion. All finished pretty much 10 minutes to the dot. She whipped off the condom and gave me a tissue to clean up. She told me her name was Denisa (?Danisa). I asked her why she wasn't with an agency but it was pretty obvious that with her good looks (a definite 8-9 out of 10) and body, she was probably making more with high turnover servicing rather than fewer clients of which the agencies rake in at least 50% of the fees in any case. She is a lovely girl who really made an effort to provide a good service.

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[Pradel]

Very interesting report about street walkers at Laga Park.

I will soon travel to MADRID

Do you have more about street walkers ?

Thanks

[Out for Flesh]

Very interesting report about street walkers at Laga Park.

I will soon travel to MADRID

Do you have more about street walkers ?

Thanks

Plenty of them in Montera Street (from Gran Via metro station down to Puerta del Sol). To avoid, IMHO.

The ones in Casa de Campo / Lago are fleeing as the zone is being closed to cars.

[Spanishdick]

OK, I am torn about writing this report. On one hand, I want everyone to know the great service, but on the other hand feel like being possessive and keeping this a secret.

But I need someone to talk some sense into me.

So here is the story:

I have been visiting different places for the last 2 years living in Spain. I have been to Flowers and Lovely and street girls and apartments. But the last 2 weeks I have discovered Mirador out on the A1 to Burgos, about half an hour out of Madrid. The first night I went I met this Romanian girl as soon as I walked in the door and went upstairs for a half hour of mediocre, but satisfying sex. Nothing special, just wham bam thank you mam sex.

Then when I came backdownstairs for a drink, this dark haired (also Romainian) girl started talking to me. (I am not going to give her name as you will see later). I told her I was finished for the night, but she kept talking, in English with me, for about an hour. She was funny and smart and absolutely gorgeous. She told me she was 20, but I think she is only 18 at the oldest. I complained that she was too young for me, I am 44, but as all good working girls, she told me that was perfect because I had lots of experience to make her feel good too.

Anyway, we got along so well that I came back the next night. This time I was looking for her, but as soon as I walked in she was right there. She remembered me and we picked back up where we started.

I went upstairs with her and she told me she really liked me. She started off with kissing and she let me kiss her all over and give her oral before we started. Everytime I felt I was going to come she would stop me and we would kiss and touch each other. She kept me going for over an hour before she let me come. Then she charged me only the half hour rate of 65, but told me to say I paid 120 if anyone asked. Then afterwards, she got me to go back downstairs for another drink and just spent over an hour just talking.
I went back a few nights later and saw her again. This time was about the same. And again she undercharged me and then we spent about 2 hours just talking downstairs.

Tonight, I went back and she wasn't there. I can't tell you how sad that made me. I just wanted to see her again. I ended up going up with a Jamaican who I didn't really want to. Again mediocre sex.

When I came back downstairs there was my princess. She had come in late. I felt so bad, like I had cheated on her, but she said it was fine and that she understood, but wished that I had gone with her instead.

I told her I was nervous because I thought I was falling for her, and then she told me that she felt the same. Of course I know that is business talk, but it made me feel good.

So I ordered a drink and we just talked for a long time. Then she asked me to take her upstairs. I told her I had already been and that I didn't think I could go again. But she insisted and so we went up. We got into the room and she undressed me very slowly, kissing my chest and and hugging me. I told her again that I thought I was falling for her and she told me that she really loved me. More business talk I thought.

Then we washed each other and started kissing again. This time when I was going down on her, she moved herself around and started giving me a BBBJ. It felt so amazing I was ready to explode again. Then she stopped and we started kissing again, open mouth with tongue. I was nervous and stopped and she told me it was okay.

I was laying on top of her and could see her face and chest getting red and she was breathing hard. The next thing I knew she had taken me inside without condom. She was hotter and wetter than any girl I have every been with. We stopped and I put the condom on.

Then we just went at it for what seemed forever. I know for sure she came many times. Then finally she clenched herself so tight it felt like her little fist was squeezing me. I explode inside her like I hadn't had sex for a month.

Then we just laid there talking and holding each other. We talked about music and life and travelling and everything. Then she told me she really thought she loved me. I told her that she didn't have to say that.

Then when I went to pay her she refused to take any money! She just wanted me to promise to come back tomorrow.

All sounds like a great time, but the problem is I really think I am in love too!

Someone has to set me straight here. I can't fall in love with a prostitute. And I can't believe that she is really in love with me. But why wouldn't she take my money? We have known each for 2 weeks and have had sex 4 times. I don't want to have sex with anyone else. I can't sleep nights because I can't wait to go back the next day to see her again. This can't be. She is less than half my age.

What's going on? Any good advice?

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[El Burro]

OK, I am torn about writing this report. On one hand, I want everyone to know the great service, but on the other hand feel like being possessive and keeping this a secret.

But I need someone to talk some sense into me.

So here is the story:

I have been visiting different places for the last 2 years living in Spain. I have been to Flowers and Lovely and street girls and apartments. But the last 2 weeks I have discovered Mirador out on the A1 to Burgos, about half an hour out of Madrid.

Hi SD, I'm a regular up at Mirador. Feel free to drop me a private message if your heading that way again or for that matter any other clubs which don't normaly feature on this board

[John Costa]

Sounds like you have had a great time my friend.

I have been visiting clubs for a long time and I wish I had 1 euro for everytime a girl told me I was special etc...A similar thing happened to me a year or so ago and I was seeing one girl and paying under the going rate etc for a couple of weeks and then she started telling me about this operation she needed and it would cost 4000 euro...there the relationship ended.

My friend took a brasilian girl back to england last year to live with him, turned out she was on the make for lots of cash, you would not have believed it but that is life. Took him a couple of months to find her out, ended up being a lot cheaper for him than coming to spain all the time with me but hurt him quite a bit. I have another friend who paid for an urgent operation for a romanian girl turned out she had her tits done with the money, they look good but cost him about 5000 euros.

It is so easy to fall for them if you let yourself, I would say you may get one genuine one out of 50 but the rest are on the make...

...I am off to Madrid next week for 4 days to stay with 1 girl who I have visited 5 times over the past couple of months, when I see her it is for 3 or 4 days at a time at my apartment or in a hotel I do not visit her in a club, she is absolutely stunning and we get on fantastic but at the end of the day I am paying her, the question is always are they being nice for you or your money? I would give it a good few months with this girl and if she was genuine great but it is very important to stop yourself falling love. It is so easy, I am 40 she is 22 and a couple of years ago she could have took me to the cleaners quite easily but you need to be ultra careful. Always think of yourself first and think of the consequences for yourself if you make a fool of yourself.

That said if I was you I would keep seeing her but with an open mind to it. On another point regarding the condom, you will find quite a few of the girls will do a repeat customer without a condom, it may make you think your special, it could be a trap, be careful.

[Dirty Dawg 33]

spanish dick, I think that is good advice form John Costa.

Of course, it is absolutely possible that the chick really does dig you - prostitutes are still human after all. However, I think - for your own sake - you need to retain a healthy scepticism.

By all means keep carrying on with the girl, you seem to have a good thing going, but do keep in the back of your mind that her intentions are not entirely honest and be ready to end it at short notice. In that scenario you can console yourself with having had a great GFE.

As JC says, run a mile if she starts asking for a big chunk of cash.

[Out for Flesh]

As JC says, run a mile if she starts asking for a big chunk of cash.


Absolutely. First of all, that would not be the first time provider and client fall in love. I did once, with a absolutely gorgeous, thin, well educated, Spanish, tender girl with a lovely conversation. Who happened to be on drugs - heroine. This may not be your case, of course.

I think that the general rule is: do you think she's in love with you? Well, treat her as if she is not a prostitute. First of all, probably you do not want to have a prostitute as fiancée, right? Ask her about her plans to retire. If she asks you about something, think "would any friend of mine do for a girlfriend what this chick is asking me to do for her?"

Re. other, less known clubs, I used to go to El Mirador rather often. I think I have posted some info on it time ago. Same for Eternity. Will probably consider making a round of reviewing during those days.

[Out for Flesh]

But I need someone to talk some sense into me.

Spanishdick,

I tried to send you a PM, but you had reception turned off. Would you please turn it on?

[Pistolaso]

You are playing with fire my friend. My advise is that you stop seeing her, because the more you see her, the more you will like her. I hate to generalize, but a relationship with a working girl is unlikely to have a happy ending. A relationship with any woman is difficult, with a working girl can be HELL. Unless you are one of those “special” men that does not mind sharing with strangers the woman you love, or are tolerant and open minded and can accept the fact that the woman you love is/was a prostitute, then go on. If you are not, stop seeing her before you fall madly in love with her, because if you do, that is when your living hell will start. If you read Spanish, I suggest you go to a Spanish site called: www.putalocura.com Then go to FORO, then FORO PUTAS and look for a thread called ENAMORADO DE UNA PUTA. This thread goes back to 2005 and has more than 70 pages. You will find some interesting point of views from people who have fallen for a prostitute. Good luck!

[Nicholai Hel]

I have been to FP two weeks ago with a friend on sunday night. The bodyguards in the door tried to charge us 13 euros per person. I said no way I'm paying this money and we just paid 5 per person which was a rip-off too anyway. When we went in I found out that sunday is certainly not a good day for FP. There were only few girls, most of them unattractive. anyway, Maria whom I had been together with once, a gorgeous colombian, was there. She saw us and offered a threesome for 70 euros per person. She was good at seducing us. Rubbing her ass onto my penis and kissing me...We agreed. I first tried to take the price a bit lower but she insisted that it was already a good price for a threesome...

Anyway, we went into the room and I already started liking her gorgeous body after she washed us both.Then she started to suck us one by one, but was not that good. She kept it short and put the condom on mine and then I made her suck my balls a bit more pushing her head onto my balls. She was cautious, nevertheless let me do some of the things that I wanted like spanking her..Then I started to fuck her in the missionary position while she sucked my friend. She simply was trying to make us come quick. But hey I promised myself to get the shit out of this **** so I held myself each time I felt like coming. Then I started fucking her doggy style with some good spanking and she kept on sucking my friend. Then we switched positions and my friend started to fuck her doggy while I gave mine into her mouth.It was ok.she was a bit discomfortable with two guys and it seemed so but I didnt care and kept pushing her head onto my balls. Then she understood that my friend was a bit shy and told me to come. Then I started fucking her alone really hard in the missionary position while she was giving me those sexy bitchy looks to make me come quicker and indeed after a short while I came.Then I went to wash myself anf my friend started fucking her a bit more and then she gave him a handjob because he was a bit nervous.

Overall, it was an ok experience. not the best 3some I had. But Maria is a gorgeous girl.

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[Nicholai Hel]

I read a lot about this colombian mature and stopped by that place 10 days ago. I had to wait about 1. 5 hours for lorena who was busy. Actually there were 2 girls, quite pretty, but I wanted to have the lorena experience. Anyway after waiting she was there. She is not so nice looking but has an ok body. With the high heels and so on and all the things she does it's a good deal. I paid 60 euros for an hour.

First she sucked me. Very nice BBBJ with a lot of ball sucking. Then she put the condom on and I started fucking her in the ass which was simply great. She was not ok with spanking and told me to stop it. When I felt like coming I pulled the condom off and gave mine into her mouth again. She kept on sucking me and I came into her mouth which was perfect. She didn't stop at al and most likely swallowed some of it. Then we washed again. By the way she kissed me on my lips few times which I regret. I licked her body and boobs but she was all the time cleaning them afterwards. She was ok with cumshot in her mouth and greek but was obsessed with cleaning herself when I licked her body. A bit strange woman.

We still had time and we laid down on the bed for a while and afterwards I told her to suck me again. She's good at it and started to do what she does best in life. Then we put the condom on again and I fucked her in few positions. Well to be honest, she's no gorgeous and after I came I really felt like elaving but since I had already paid I wanted to have some more fun. But I knew I wouldn't be able to come. After some fucking, I stood up she started sucking me again on her knees. After a while she was really tired which was understandable and I started to jerk off myself while she sucked my balls. But I decided I wouldn't be able to come and since she refused to suck more we finished the session 20 minutes earlier. All in all, a lot of sucking, ball sucking, CIM, greek, different positions and all for 60 euros with a mature noone would say no! A very good deal.

I will be back in this place when I'm back in Madrid sometime to try the other girls in the house that I didn't try.

GO, perfect place for a good price-quality ratio.

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[Out for Flesh]

IThe bodyguards in the door tried to charge us 13 euros per person.
[...]
Maria whom I had been together with once, a gorgeous colombian, was there.

Nicholai (and all): I have never been charged anything to enter FP, at all times and at all days. Maybe the bodyguards already know me?

I really liked the way you describe Maria's attitude. I am not into threesomes (with another buddy), so I do not mind whether she feels unconfortable about that, but, what does she look like? Is she the type of girl with whom you can talk, or is it just "let's do it, done, see ya!"?

Thanks in advance!

[Out for Flesh]

But I need someone to talk some sense into me.

SPDick,

why don't you share some details on the girl with the rest of the forum and we go there and check whether she falls in love with us? You should not mind us trying her: this is happening anyway.

[Out for Flesh]

Payed a visit to this place on Sunday night (I think it was Sunday - anyway, it does not matter).

Private is in Avda. Madrid, 36. This is the road which takes you Alcalá when you exit N-II if you're heading to Barcelona. It is a long road/street which goes through an industrial zone. You will see streetwalkers on both sides (mostly black women), and I assume there are more in the backstreets.

After a couple of Km. in this road (maybe more?) you will see Private. You cannot miss it. It has very bright white lights with its name facing the avenue. There is a small parking at the entrance; if you continue driving straight away through a sort of parkway you'll exit in the opposite side where there is more place to park.

There is a 10€ fee to enter, which includes 1 drink. When I got in -- there is a water (I would not say swimming) pool and the setting looks more like an open air bar (yes, no roof). That was good as the temperature was perfect. Several girls around, some of them showing off their breasts.

Mostly Roumanians. Good faces and bodies, but Roumanians are not my cup of tea. I chatted briefly with a Brazilian girl, but she was not pretty. So I stayed there for some 15 or 20 min. and then I left.

The Brazilian girl told me thet there is a bar, etd. inside the buiding, but that it is closed during the summer - it's only open during winter.

For what I have seen there, I would not repeat unless I am told of some gem there. If you are curious about the place, it is not that far from Madrid. Certainly closer than El Conejo de Oro (which I plan to visit and report on in short).

Best.

[Nicholai Hel]

Hey Out For Flesh,

Maria is certainly a girl you can have a nice chat with.She's not so pressured about the time neither very relaxed about it. Shit, I'm very bad at describing .Two times I've been with her she was wearing jeans with high heels.Her hair is... sorry i don't remember the color, I guess brown. She has nice colored eyes and she's from colombia. She told me that she started working at FP recently.I think she has a gorgeous body with silicon boobs, vey nice ass and nicw skin.for my standards she also has a nice face.She told me she's 25 or 26 but she looks older to me.I hope this is useful.

Of the 4 times I've been to FP they only tried to charge me once...I guess maybe that depends on their mood.

You're of course welcome.

Good luck


Nicholai (and all): I have never been charged anything to enter FP, at all times and at all days. Maybe the bodyguards already know me?

I really liked the way you describe Maria's attitude. I am not into threesomes (with another buddy), so I do not mind whether she feels unconfortable about that, but, what does she look like? Is she the type of girl with whom you can talk, or is it just "let's do it, done, see ya!"?

Thanks in advance!

[El Burro]

Payed a visit to this place on Sunday night (I think it was Sunday - anyway, it does not matter).

Private is in Avda. Madrid, 36. This is the road which takes you Alcalá when you exit N-II if you're heading to Barcelona. It is a long road/street which goes through an industrial zone.

I stop by at Private from time to time and have made use of the relax rooms. It's a sister club of La Miel. Largish bar and catwalk stage. As OFF reported there is the usual selection of babes you find in most medium sized clubs featuring mainly Romanians. The medi hora rate is fixed at 65€. In general I like the place but there is one really annoying aspect. The receptionist makes a "wake up" call as your session hits the half hour mark. No opportunity for your babe to allow any overrun. It's the same at La Miel.

There are a couple of smaller clubs located directly behind Private in the back street there. You can reach them by walking along the side of the club. Another interesting option is African Queen on the other side of town which was reported here some time ago. Also several small puti clubs throughout the town. I guess all this action is the legacy of the former US airbase nearby.

[Out for Flesh]

Hey Out For Flesh,

Maria is certainly a girl you can have a nice chat with. She's not so pressured about the time neither very relaxed about it. Shit, I'm very bad at describing .Two times I've been with her she was wearing jeans with high heels. Her hair is... sorry i don't remember the color, I guess brown.

Oops. Well, I would prefer not to go girl after girl with enhanced boobs asking whether her name is Maria. So... height? Skin color (presumably tanned)? Wide mouth? Large/small/medium nose? Are her hands soft? Eyes with that slightly oriental-like touch some South Americans have, or rather round? Does she walk around, or does she stay waiting for customers? If she stays, any idea of what's her preferred spot? Any particular perfume? Was she smoking?

Sorry if I look like bugging you - not my aim. Just helping you to remember!

[Out for Flesh]

I It's a sister club of La Miel. Largish bar and catwalk stage. As OFF reported there is the usual selection of babes you find in most medium sized clubs featuring mainly Romanians. The medi hora rate is fixed at 65€. In general I like the place but there is one really annoying aspect. The receptionist makes a "wake up" call as your session hits the half hour mark. No opportunity for your babe to allow any overrun. It's the same at La Miel.

There are a couple of smaller clubs located directly behind Private in the back street there. You can reach them by walking along the side of the club. Another interesting option is African Queen on the other side of town which was reported here some time ago. Also several small puti clubs throughout the town. I guess all this action is the legacy of the former US airbase nearby.

I've been to La Miel. Maybe I even reported on it (one year ago or so). From my point of view, nothing to write home about. Came back home empty-handed, so to speak. Will probably make a trip some time this summer (yes, summer is a bad season, but it is the only season in which I can monger during weekdays).

The ring thing also happens in Eternity. Well, I do not dislike that in the sense that it is more difficult that the girl tries to cheat you with the time. Of course that may cut some action.

I saw one of the smaller clubs (I think it was called "leidis", verb.) Did not dare to enter - not because I felt I was going to be in danger, but because just do not like the idea of entering a place full of old sharks.

African Queen - I have read about that. Didn't remember about it. In your opinion, is it worth paying a visit? You say it is an "interesting option".

Thanks a lot in advance!

[El Burro]

I've been to La Miel. Maybe I even reported on it (one year ago or so). From my point of view, nothing to write home about. Came back home empty-handed, so to speak. Will probably make a trip some time this summer (yes, summer is a bad season, but it is the only season in which I can monger during weekdays).

The ring thing also happens in Eternity. Well, I do not dislike that in the sense that it is more difficult that the girl tries to cheat you with the time. Of course that may cut some action.

hmm......I enjoy visiting the dodgy joints and meeting the sharks:-) Is AQ worth a visit? Well, it's certainly no Flowers Park. The vibe is very low key with a relatively small number of babes of mixed quality. Personally I like a change of scene and experiencing a more local environment. But I guess I'm lucky enough to be out and about most of the time. Hardly a day passes me by without a trip to a club or three, visit to a privee, session in a local massage parlour, quickie in a Fast Fuck establsihment or a trawl of a street scene. Anyway, back to African Queen. On my last visit I ended up in bed with a glamorous Colombian lady whom was my only temptation there that night. It was a most pleasant no rush session.

You know OFF, I never suffer a girl in a club trying to cheat out of time. More often than not my medi hora sessions run well past. I believe it's quite straightforward to judge a lady's attitude in the bar and therefore don't end up with the bad girls. I read one of your recent posts in which you report paying a supplement for a 45 minute session. It would never occur to me to lay down extra cash in this situation. But then I am a bit of a tight fisted old burro.

And at the other end of the scale. Last week a colleague had to drag me kicking and screaming into Club Hot. You know I moved to Madrid 4 years ago and this was my very first visit. It's actually smaller than I imagined but nevertheless a very nice place. Girls are also very nice looking but in my opinion you can find similar quality babes in all the usual places we visit. For example after work this evening I relaxed with an absolutely stunner for 60€ in a Goya private apartment, certainly the equal if not superior to anything I saw in Hot.

[Spanishdick]

SPDick,

why don't you share some details on the girl with the rest of the forum and we go there and check whether she falls in love with us? You should not mind us trying her: this is happening anyway.Hey guys,

Thanks for the advice. I think all that has been said has been very helpful. I'm not a stupid guy and I'm not innocent, but I really let myself fall for this girl.

Pistolaso - you're right, I know I am playing with fire. I don't mind so much that she has sex with other guys. I have sex with other girls. But I know that eventually it would bother me, and the more I am with her the more I will like her. Yes, dangerous indeed.

John and Dirty Dawg, thanks for the tips. Although I have had sex with about 20 girls during the last 2 years, I have never feltlike this about one. I have to keep your WOA in mind. This is a job for her, and the more special she makes me feel the more likely I will spend more money on her.

OutForFlesh - you have a good idea maybe. I hate to set her up because I really like her, but you are right. I am sure if anyone goes to Mirador and meets her she will be exactly the same as she is with me. But I guess that would be a good lesson for me to learn. Her name is Anne Maria. She is 20 year old Romanian. She has long black hair and is very skinny. Small perky breasts, long legs and wide hips, but nice tight butt. She doesn't have the body that I am usually attracted to (big tits, round high ass), but she has this personality that just makes me weak when I am around her. She hangs out with a few other similar looking girls. She often wears black shorts and tight tops. (So far she sounds like every other girls there). She has a very particular look about her though. She is Romanian but has a look a bit like she may be Egyptian? She wears a necklace with an eye in the center of a gold circle. She likes music and often sits in the back playing the video games. If anyone meets her, let me know.

I went to see her on Tuesday night and she wasn't there. About 10 different girls approached me and I told everyone that I was waiting for her. I just couldn't get turned on by any of these other girls. I left Spain on Wednesday morning and needed to see her before I left. (I am not from originally from Spain, have been here 2 years, but may not be back if my contract isn't renewed). I made her a cd of some music she said she liked, and wanted to make sure she got it before I left. I wanted her to know that I wasn't just thinking about her for sex.

Then just before I was ready to leave she showed up. I gave her the cd and she threw herself on me like it was Christmas. She was all over me and wanted to go upstairs right away. It was 10:00 when we went upstairs, and after we made love we went back downstairs and stayed together and just talked until 2:00. Then she said she needed to meet some other guys to make some money. I told her I understood and then I left.

The sex with her is fantastic. She really likes to have sex and comes everytime. She gets very into it and will play with herself while I am inside her. When she comes she really tightens up and gets very wet.

I left Madrid yesterday, and am back in the US now. I told her that I would come back to see her. I am already looking a flight to come back the end of August to see her. I think it may be best for me not to get any more involved with her. It's like I am addicted to her though and going to be hard to not think of her. If I do end back in Madrid maybe I'll have to take my business to other girls.

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[Happy Guy 264]

Speak english, find it little difficult to manage in Madrid.

Any recommendation on nice brazilian girls that can be ordered to my hotel at madrid (please add phones).Hey there!

I Highly recommend http://www.CynthiaEscortMadrid.Com The number is (34) 679 065 451

Cynthia speaks English and is an amazing girl, very nice, smart, educated, classy and you get what you came for! Also, on her site you might like Leticia.... Sweet! I met with Cynthia and 4 others on her site, they were exactly as shown on the site, no bait and switch. I like to party and ended up with a few of the girls going dinner, then to an amazing disco, where the girls were VIP´s, so it was a wild ride for sure. Fun fun girls I cant say enough good things about.

Tell Cynthia Bo from Dallas sent ya!

[John Costa]

It may be best that you are now back in the US and may get time to think reality.

My situation is a little similar to you, I have bedded circa 400 girls over the past 2 years, I like to be with different girls most of the time and lots of them. For the last 6-8 weeks I have only been with 1 girl and will arrive in Madrid on sunday for a further 4 days with just her. She is outrageously gorgeous, face body personality indeed if I asked god to make one for me she would be what he made. Yes you could say I really really like this girl.......the times together are fantastic and I could happily only go with her for the rest of my days........however she is club girl, she loves being with me there is no doubt about it but as for her falling for me etc I just couldn't believe it if she told me, I think to accept a club girl falling into your life you would need to know her for a long long time. I could accept an ex club girl as my girlfriend and forget what she did for a job but I do not know if I could ever really believe everything she said, her job is to be nice to people, the girls are obviously extra nice to men who go back and repeat with them just the same as I am extra nice to my returning customers in business. I am keeping a gap between my heart and my dick and although I would not want it too happen I could and would drop her as quickly as I found her and then move onto rule number 1.

Rule number 1: there is thousands more where she came from...

[Nicholai Hel]

It's really ok though like I told you I'm really bad at describing. Let's see. I guess hee height would be about 1. 65-1. 67 and with high heels she's longer of course. She look tanned indeed. Nose and mouth no idea. She has nice eyes, colored. She doesn't stay and wait, she certainly tries to attract guys by walking around. She was never smoking the times I've seen her and been with her. No idea about the perfume. That doesn't sound better but that's the best I could do. And like I told you before she always wore jeans the times I've seen her.


Oops. Well, I would prefer not to go girl after girl with enhanced boobs asking whether her name is Maria. So... height? Skin color (presumably tanned)? Wide mouth? Large/small/medium nose? Are her hands soft? Eyes with that slightly oriental-like touch some South Americans have, or rather round? Does she walk around, or does she stay waiting for customers? If she stays, any idea of what's her preferred spot? Any particular perfume? Was she smoking?

Sorry if I look like bugging you - not my aim. Just helping you to remember!

[Out for Flesh]

Yesterday night, Factory Air. I had been there a couple of times within the last week but did not hook up with any girl. Not really my preferred type of girls, and some of them are really, ahem, perseverant.

I saw this chocolate-skinned girl, thin, smily, curly hair, extra-white teeth, great boom, wearing a white dress with a mini-skirt. She was talking to some other client, when she finished (no deal with the guy) I beckoned her.

She's Jennifer, from DR. I don't usually go with DR's, but the way she rubbed her ass against my crotch and how easily she agreed to most of my desires convinced me. The damage was pre-calculated in 120€ for 1 hour. She initially asked for 140 and went down with zero effort. I should have bargained more :-( .


Anyways, upstairs we went. Standard room (with three beds). She's lively, always smiling and joking (and almost teasing). Her body is very good; only thing is that her bottom was just a bit fatty, and her breasts relatively small. But face and body were superb. After washing (she thoroughly washed me), we started with kissing (no DFK :-(), and her liking every single corner of my body. AR included, a bit of roleplaying included, she likes (or maybe only accepts) her buttocks being slapped.
Anal was available (but not for very ling - she claims it hurts, and I can believe it). CIM is not available.

She's not a clockwatcher and she seems to be a sensible person. All in all a good experience - but not, for me, an outstanding one. So she does not qualify to receive another visit from me.

Place: Factory Air
Name: Jennifer
Citizenship: Dominican
Body: 7 (with probably an 8 face)
Performance: 7
Attitude: 7 (maybe 8?)
Will repeat: will have to think twice -- Hum, if I have to think, then that probably means "no"

Best!

[Out for Flesh]

I read one of your recent posts in which you report paying a supplement for a 45 minute session.

Well, that's a way of looking at that. If you are able to book a 30 min. session and stay 45 min. without the girl talling you anythin, well, that's great.

What happened to me is that I was offered 30 min. @ 70€ and 60 min. @ 140€, if bargaining does not work I counter offer with 45 min. @ 100€/ The per minute rate is better than I was offerent, and more often than not 45 min. end up being 50 or so. Of course many of them frown upon the weird 45 min. offer.

[T Kearney]

Hi al. I came across a place on the net this evening - C/ Cartajena 29 near metro Diego de Leon. Dones anyone know this, and can anyone comment please? Also, any recommendations for apartment visits in Madrid?

[Lars Kongo]

Visited madrid for a few days a while ago.

The streetscene have changed a little lately.

Mostly young russian and romanian girls there especially at c/montera (between Puerta del sol and granvia) still a few latingirls but not to many and a few african girls too.

See/Desengaño (parralel to gran via) quite a few girls here too mixed with a couple of transvestites though not recommended at late night as there tends to be a few junkies there and there aint that good streetligts there.

At night theres also abouth 10-15 african girls at gran via between callao and gran via metrostations.

Anyway I found a latingirl that I've been with a few times nice silikonboobs and a really nice curvybody aged around 30 I guess but a really great in all ways so we meet up twice during my visit there, though there were quite a lot of cops patrolling montera so we couldn't use any of the apartments there so se took me to her place wich was a lot better.

Quite ordinary BJ but the fucking really awesome.

Also tried a really tall romaniangirl wich was kind of a different experience as se took me to an apartment at c/fuencarrall no BJ just a quickie but she wanted to have the window open and while fucking her se really screamed and talked dirty to me all the time so there could be no doubt of what we where doing

The last night there I was walking home after quite a few beers.

So I end up talking to this africangirl at gran via, for the moment not that interested as earlier lots of promises what to do and its never really ended up like they said before.

So I tell her that and she strange enough tells me tat shell do everything we aggrees on for 28 € so I ask if that includes the room wich it does.

Still in doubts I tell her that we can do it another time, though ses really pushy as most african streetgirls so I ask if it includes anal to and she says yes.

So I change my mind and so we go to the house while waiting for the room I place my self beind her and gets a grip on her nice tits and we pushed her big booty againts my hard dick.

Up to the room and she puts on a condom and I ask if whe can't suck without and se tells me she dosent do that but anyhow really nice sucking technique then she gets on top of me and starts to ride me after a while se want it from behind so I ask er if I can put it in her ass and she says that its ok so I slowly try to enter though she dosent seem to prepared for it so se warms it up with a finger first, finally gets to enter her ass, seems like the first time for her to take it in the ass and it seems to hurt a little but taking it slowly it works fine then I want her to sit on it again but still taking it up her ass, still seem to hurt for her but se takes it all the way. Really hard working girl

So I ask her if I can cum in her mouth, strangely enough she says aI can do that for 20€ this on a girl that woulndt do a BJ withouth condom but as I don't have 20 I tell her I only got 10 so she says ok give me and she starts to suck and jerk me I'm getting really close to cum and shes tells me to tkae it easy and slows down and when I finally cums she gets it all in her mouth but then lets it drip out on my cock and plays around with her tongue.

By far the best experience I've had with a blck streetgirl.

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[Nicholai Hel]

Hi al. I came across a place on the net this evening - C/ Cartajena 29 near metro Diego de Leon. Dones anyone know this, and can anyone comment please? Also, any recommendations for apartment visits in Madrid?Well just look back at some threads and you'll find some recommendations.

It's worth looking sometimes before directly asking.

[Nicholai Hel]

Up to the room and she puts on a condom and I ask if whe can't suck without and se tells me she dosent do that but anyhow really nice sucking technique then she gets on top of me and starts to ride me after a while se want it from behind so I ask er if I can put it in her ass and she says that its ok so I slowly try to enter though she dosent seem to prepared for it so se warms it up with a finger first, finally gets to enter her ass, seems like the first time for her to take it in the ass and it seems to hurt a little but taking it slowly it works fine then I want her to sit on it again but still taking it up her ass, still seem to hurt for her but se takes it all the way. Really hard working girl

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Really nice report. I personally never liked the street action in madrid though it's really possible to find some good deals sometimes if one is lucky enough. though don't get me wrong but how can you be so naive to say that it could be the first time that she took it in her ass.just wondered that.

[Lars Kongo]

Cause it was kind of hard to take her in the ass and she seemed to be in some pain.


Really nice report. I personally never liked the street action in madrid though it's really possible to find some good deals sometimes if one is lucky enough. though don't get me wrong but how can you be so naive to say that it could be the first time that she took it in her ass.just wondered that.

[Jayagopal50]

Fellow members,

Planning 10 day trip to Madrid, Barcelona and Sevilla [Granada] with family. Since not possible to go out late at night what are chances for daytime and early evening mongering. Are apartments / houses easy to find and get to?

Thanks,

Jayagopal50

[Out for Flesh]

Yesterday went to FP for some action. OK, Sundays are slow days, but yesterday seemed to be the slowest of the sundays. I arrived there around 22:30 or so, and there weren't enough girls to call that a club before, say, midnight. Quality was evenly distributed, with some women who just should not be there. Some new girls also, but I think the quality has, on average, went down a bit. Maybe girls are back in their countries for summer, maybe it was just Sunday and some girls preferred to take the day - ahem, the night - off. What I very clearly perceived is that the ratio of girls offering anal was clearly reduced w.r.t. other times.

Anyway I ended up greeting Daniela (who was in FP, then she moved to Factory Air, and she is back in FP now - I wrote a report about her some time ago). She is short, nice face, so-so body (not overweight - just a bit "wide"). She is always teasing me and trying to make jokes and trying to convince me to go upstairs with her. Now, I had talked to another Brazilian girl (Nani, new in the place) who didn't want to do anal and then they talked to each other and Daniela came to me offering anal. Which she had always refused to do.

She was quoting 100E / 30 min. with anal included. I said no way, 'we are friends and I don't give money as a gift to my friends'. She went away and returned like 10 min. after that to ask whether I had thought about that. After my 'I have nothing to think about' answer she went away, and in 10 minutes she came back with a 70E offer including anal, and AR under my request. Off we went.

In the bedroom: she washed me and asked me to wash my hands. We started the game and she was, hum, as uninspired as I should have remembered her. Lots of "gostoso" and moanings when there was nothing to moan about. At least she did do AR, cowgirl, and later anal. Which was pretty easy to do, which makes me think she is doing rountinely nowadays.

All in all, a regular, uninspired performance, with so-so kisses. A don't-repeat girl.


BTW, I am calling her Daniela because that was her former name. I do not know whether she's changed her war name!

[John Costa]

Firstly OFF i went to madrid on sunday but only booked my flight sunday morning so didn't get in touch but when I am returning in 2 weeks hopefully we will hook up.

I went to see my friend in diana plus and had the sunday night there as I booked aroom there for a couple of nights. I have spent about 17 full nights with this girl over the last 2 months and she is sensational but probably been with her alittle too much now and we are probably taking each other for granted a little hence we had a bit of an argument, made up well but I thought it is time to revert to rule number 1 "there is thousands where she came from"....

.....so last night decided it was off to either flowers park or factory for the night. Flowers was 47km from my hotel and factory air 18km and as I only use taxis it was factory that won. Called a taxi and was dropped off at the club at 4.50pm and it was closed so waited around for 10 mins or so and then went in. When I got in there was no girls at all yet so I got a drink and had a good look around the club, this place is very big and like a nightclub, coupls of very big screens showing stuff, sport, music etc. A massive bar that takes a couple minutes to walk around. I was thinking that this club would never look full. Anyway got a drink and afew girls started coming down, talked to quite a few, first one was brasilian and i really wanted brasilian but she was not great looking not great dressed and about 30ish so "no thanks" talked to a few romanians 2 of whom told me they were spanish, they must think we are stupid.

Eventually a nice looking brasilian came over and started chatting, i knew she was going to be going upstairs straight away as i had been in 1 hour and i needed it regardless. She was about 27 dark hair usual brasilian figure with all the right curves, weird name and i cannot remember it. She asked for 70 euros for half an hour and I just frowned at her trying to play hardball, she immediately said she would not go up for less but we would stay for at least 40 mins so off we went. As soon as we got in the lift she had her tongue straight down my throat and hand inside my trousers, I thought hmmm i think this may well be good.

In the room we washed and she played real particular attention to washing my ass, we had not discussed AR etc but I thought to myself very nice. Onto the bed lots of nice kissing everywhere, straight to uncovered BJ and then onto rimming, very good when you haven't asked but she just wanted either me or her to be happy. I went down for my party peice DATY and she absolutely loved it, said she hadn't been licked that good for along time. She came real strong then kind of threw me over and fucked me senseless. Finished off with a nice kissing session and then a wash. Looked at my watch and we had been there for 55 minutes and she was smiling more than me. Fantastic start to this club.

Went down for more drinks, ballantines/coke 12 euros. Coke on its own is 10 crazy. A few more girls hit on me and i chatted to quite a few for what seemed like ages even though i had told them i had just come down and was not going up for a while. I would have gone up straight away with the right girl. 2 african girls, estelle very pretty from guinea?? and another said she was from jamaica?? questioned her about it telling her i knew her home town of kingston very well and she gave the usual shit oh my mother is african but my father is jamaican but i have never really been there, again do they think we are stupid. Anyway these 2 girls both repeated asked for drinks and i refused, later after going up again they both came and gave me shit for buying another girl a drink and not them and then dissing me for not taking them upstairs, even though i made it quite clear when we spoke i wouldn't be takling them upstairs, avoid these in my opinion. I have never had a decent encounter with an african EVER.

Round 2 was another brasilian girl, blonde about 26/27 name was leonadra or similar. Not the most beautiful but i liked her and her attitude and knew again straight away she was going upstairs. I was just out for brasilians. Again didn't discuss anything other than 70 euros for 30 mins, went up and her friend was in the room we chatted for a bit she was tall black girl and looked sexy as anything, they wanted athreesome i didn't want to pay so off she went. Washed and again she paid particular attention to my ass, i'm thinking i like this club. Excellent kissing session bbbj AR etc anal was on offer but i didn't bother. She loved my DATY more than anything and she did come very good. Fucked in a few positions and i finished quite easily for the second time. Spent 50 minutes with her, she never mentioned any extra cash or anything and off i went down for yet more drinks. Took some shit from the african girls, told one of them very politely to f*ck off told the other one very unpolitely to f*ck off.

More drinks and I can feel myself getting a little drunk, the girls still kept coming even though they knew i had been up twice. An absolutely gorgeous colombian girl came to me, spent about 2 mins with me because she couldn't speak a word of english and then went. I thought what the fuck I don't need to talk to her and she is the hottest thing I have seen in here so I caught her eye and called her back over. Went up with her for round 3, excellent session buit not as good as the 2 brasilians although from looks I would say she was a 9/10 and the other 2 probably 6/7 looks but 9/10 for attitude and the quality of the sex. I had the 30 mins came again which was maybe a little surprising for me but she was really fit and pretty.

It was 12 o'clock now and I got a call from my friend in diana plus of how she was missing me etc. I thought I would end up drunk soon so decided to go back to my hotel and stay with her, had a 3 hour session of making up. Making up with a hot really fit girl for 3 hours is quite fun but exhausting, we were in her room as she had been working and then at 4 wen tto my room for a well earned rest and sleep, she wanted more but there was absolutely no way for me. She couldn't understand it and I was not telling her i had just had 2 brasilians and a colombian might have upset her a little.

Had lunch with her today and then off to the airport after a great 2 days.

Conclusion on factory air is it was a great club. I would not go in until after 6pm as it is quiet, the drinks are 10 euros for soft drinks or beer and 12 euros spirits/mixer. I would rather be in a smaller more intimate club but it certainly looks the part the way it is done. I bought 3 drinks for girls and they are same prices as clients drinks which is better for me as I hate to buy 30 euros drinks. The prices were standard 70 euros for 30 mins but never rushed, all the girls attitudes in general was very good the ones i went with and the ones i didn't (except the 2 mentioned earlier) The rooms are quite nice for a club, all had 3 beds in and where quite large. You pay 5 euros for the sheets/condom etc. Will definately return there soon.

I also must mention that I spent 2 hours in diana plus club on sunday meeting my friend there and the quality was far higher than 2 weeks ago when i was there. Some really tasty girls, still mostly romanians but very nice.

I intend to go back to Factory Air in 2 weeks and will also have my first visit Flowers Park while there and report afterwards.

See you soon OFF

JC

[Out for Flesh]

John,

well it seems you had a really good time in Factory Air. Congratulations! I have to say I never had such a good time there, but then, it's my mileage. You are right that the place never looks full. And I share your opinion about African girls and how they try to be Jamaicans. One week ago a Colombian girl tried to convince me she was Bulgarian. Go imagine. I am Spanish so I usually can detect where they are from after the first sentence.

Cheers!

[Privateer]

... I left Madrid yesterday, and am back in the US now. I told her that I would come back to see her. I am already looking a flight to come back the end of August to see her. I think it may be best for me not to get any more involved with her. It's like I am addicted to her though and going to be hard to not think of her. If I do end back in Madrid maybe I'll have to take my business to other girls.SD,

The only thing I can say is don't let this control your regular life, especially if you're already involved in a relationship. I have been with several girls in Spanish clubs during the past 18 months and I have to admit that I also have been a bit of a sucker for a few of them. One of them even told me in all seriousness that she wanted to have my child and I had to come back for her. She even claimed she was so affectionated with me that she would be prepared to leave the business (and this was after I had spent about 80-90 minutes with her). It all sounded very flattering at the time, and I had tell myself: "don't let her get to you". Fact is that it's pretty much impossible to tell what a girls' real intentions are or to what degree she's playing a game with you. I think even a shrink would have a hard time figuring out what really goes on in the minds of a lot of girls who work at clubs.

Have fun in case you go back in the next few weeks, and perhaps it's a good idea to visit a few other clubs instead of the one she works at.

Privateer

[Privateer]

On another point regarding the condom, you will find quite a few of the girls will do a repeat customer without a condom, it may make you think your special, it could be a trap, be careful.It indeed could be a trap. I was furious with myself last year after having sex with a hot Brazilian girl who also did me without a condom. Instead of being a repeat customer it was my very first time with her. Because I wasn't a repeat customer I still have no idea why on earth she decided not to put a rubber on my dick before screwing my brains out. Her reaction after I told her my concerns about this: ""no problema". Thing is that doing it without a condom makes you loose control over the situation, and I was furious with myself because I put myself in such a situation.

Privateer

[John Costa]

Privateer, thanks for your reports.

I had a romanian girl last year in estarke 92 pulled the condom off unknown to me then slipped her little arse onto me, I only knew when I shot my load and pulled out with no wrapper on it. I asked her what the f*ck she was doing and she said it was ok she didn't mind. I blew my top, she must f*ck everyone without a condom. I have had so many offers of sex without and they try to make out you are special etc it is all bullshit.

I have done 2 girls without through choice but always regretted it afterwards, especially when one of them told me afterwards she didn't take the pill. I was in contact with her and she had a gap of 37 days between her period, very very stressful and the last time EVER I will do that.

Keep up with the good reports as I am going travel further afield from the costa del sol & madrid soon.

JC

[Dangelo99]

Hi,

I will be in Madrid the next days and looking for some nice asián place to relax :-) Plan to be in a Hotel close to Gran Via. Is the place Calle de Luna still running and how are the experiences? Any nice asian massage places you can advice?

Thanks in advance.

[Spanishdick]

Am back in Madrid this weekend. I will give FP a try perhaps. Or Lovely.

It will be very difficult to not go to see my lovely friend at Mirador.

Thanks for the suggestions guys on keeping it safe and not getting too involved.

I'll write an update after the weekend.

John, scary thing with the pill. I had a girl do that to me 2 years ago (not a pro). I was seeing her for about 2 years while I was married (yes, I am a bad boy), and I was sure she had decided to get pregnant to make me leave my wife. I broke up with her as soon as she got her period! At my age I don't need anymore kids.

The problem is that these girls can be so pleasant to be with and can really make you feel that they love you. I am a real sucker for a girl who spends time talking and isn't just after the money. And of course has a great body and a beautiful face! You really have to admire these girls for making us feel so good. You gotta love them.

[Privateer]

Posted this one yesterday, but for some reason it didn't make it onto the forum.


Privateer, thanks for your reports.Thanks, I enjoyed writing them. ;)


I had a romanian girl last year in estarke 92 pulled the condom off unknown to me then slipped her little arse onto me, I only knew when I shot my load and pulled out with no wrapper on it. I asked her what the f*ck she was doing and she said it was ok she didn't mind. I blew my top, she must f*ck everyone without a condom. I have had so many offers of sex without and they try to make out you are special etc it is all bullshit.It definitely is bullshit. If I had been given a Euro for each time a girl at a club said "you are cute" or "you are beautiful" during the past 18 months I could have stopped working by now. Most hilarious thing so far is a Rumanian girl who shamelessly claimed she wanted to have my child after we had sex - thank heavens a condom was used, which I personally removed, tied a knot in and disposed of after the deed.


I have done 2 girls without through choice but always regretted it afterwards, especially when one of them told me afterwards she didn't take the pill. I was in contact with her and she had a gap of 37 days between her period, very very stressful and the last time EVER I will do that.Despite this hot Brazilian chica told me "no problema" after not using a condom, I could only assume (and hope!) she was using the pill. As I had to take her word for it, I can assure you it was playing on my mind for several days. Even if she was on the pill I never could completely rule out the fact that there was a remote chance that I could have ended up with some kind of sexually transmitted disease (STD). For me also: NEVER again without a rubber!


Keep up with the good reports as I am going travel further afield from the costa del sol & madrid soon.

JCI myself will be going to Spain again first half of September, will check out a few clubs near Madrid and am also going to the Valladolid/Tordesillas region.

Privateer

[Privateer]

Am back in Madrid this weekend. I will give FP a try perhaps. Or Lovely.

It will be very difficult to not go to see my lovely friend at Mirador.

Thanks for the suggestions guys on keeping it safe and not getting too involved.SD,

My advice is to favor FP above Lovely. As I haven't read the best things about Lovely on this forum, it isn't unlikely that you could be fed up with the place after spending an hour or so there. Since Lovely is quite close to Mirador, which is only a bit further north along the A-1, it will be hard to resist the temptation to go there in case Lovely is a disappointment.


The problem is that these girls can be so pleasant to be with and can really make you feel that they love you. I am a real sucker for a girl who spends time talking and isn't just after the money. And of course has a great body and a beautiful face! You really have to admire these girls for making us feel so good. You gotta love them.Yes I'm aware about this problem :rolleyes: - perhaps you should regard visiting a club and spending time with a girl there in the same way as visiting an amusement park (only with different rides ;)). Like with an amusement park, of which you have plenty back in the States, they have the same goal: to make you forget about the daily grind, have a good time en enjoy yourself! If you create a few good memories in process then that's a bonus... as long as they remain memories.

Just my 2c,

Privateer

[Msands]

Hey guys,

I'm headed to Madrid for my initial visit on Aug 30-Sept 2. I am looking for any advice on places to go and hotel to choose. I speak fluent Spanish and don't mind trying out new things.

Any suggestions on nightclubs (both pro and non-pro) to meet some nice Spanish girls. Also, Brazilians?

If anyone else is in town and wants to meet up for a beer, let me know.

Cheers,

M

[Out for Flesh]

Or Lovely.

My advice is: don't. It's a loss of time.

[Braniac]

I checked out a massage place near Plaza Castilla today, called Agua y Masaje (Water and Massage). I found it on the internet, so you can check that for the address if you decide to go.

They have regular massages by a normal looking girl (kinda heavy), around 50-60 euro, I think, and then a huge menu of sexual massages, starting at 99 euro and up to 400 euros or so, I think, depending on a bunch of other things offered.

I took the 50-minute, 99 Euro option with a girl named Vanessa (who they claimed was Venezuelan, but I wasn't sure). She was quite pretty, nice body and tan, but she just didn't do it for me in terms of performance. I knew I should have asked to talk to her personally before committing!

It wasn't horrible, but I'm just used to the Brazilian GFE treatment. Maybe I'm expecting too much from Europe?

I had asked the "madame" if the girl would french kiss, etc. and she said that Vanessa was very affectionate. However, I did not find her to be very natural or affectionate in her service.

It felt kinda forced and like she was holding back...too many groans early on when there was nothing to groan about, yet when I tried to kiss her neck, she would pull away, and when I tried to French kiss, it was little, quick flickers of the tongue and then she would turn away.

I said to her "You don't like to kiss?" and she said something like, "I work my own way, I don't do whatever you tell me to do! But I'm not denying you the kisses!" Definitely not a turn-on!

I should have demanded a different girl at that point. But I hadn't been that crazy about the other ones, and sometimes you just have to make the best of it.

I had asked about a refund if i wasn't happy for some reason, and they said they would not...that they would only replace the girl. Maybe I should just refuse to stay at a place if they're not willing to stand by their service, or maybe I need to accept the reality that most girls in Europe will not be GFE. Anyone have any input on that point?

Anyway, the facilities of the place are nice (besides the air conditioning being too cold), but I can't highly recommend the service overall (since I am always looking for a GFE).

I'll keep searching, but maybe I should just stick to Brazilians only....

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[John Costa]

Brainiac you are probably going to find good gfe easier in the "clubs". You have so much choice, can talk to the girls in the bar and find out everything that you want first. I think apartments / massage places are more of gamble as there is much less choice if any and no real time to check the chicas out first.

So many Romanians in spain at the moment but you will still find a fair share of Brasilians. Some fantastic Romanians believe me, they are not all shit and some of my best gfe memories have been Romanian, although I do hold the Brasilians as the overall best especially if you want a "naughty" gfe experience.

Good luck, try out Factory Air, Diana Plus & Flowers Park...

JC

[Privateer]

Brainiac you are probably going to find good gfe easier in the "clubs". You have so much choice, can talk to the girls in the bar and find out everything that you want first. I think apartments / massage places are more of gamble as there is much less choice if any and no real time to check the chicas out first.The gfe experience is the exact reason why I highly prefer to visit the clubs in Spain rather then a regular prostitute in my home country. For me it's quite important to "socially" interact with a girl for at least half an hour before deciding to spend some private time with her. Doing this will almost certainly avoid any disappointment and you being left with the feeling of having spent your money on something you wish you hadn't. Besides that it's fun to, as you never know exactly what will happen during your visit to a club.

Privateer

[Braniac]

Privateer, I totally agree with you, as well as john costa. I definitely see the clubs as being the best option, because of the choice and the time to converse. And I am glad that there are others like me, who like to talk for a while before committing.

However, I tried diana plus (estark) tonight and had a disappointing experience. Maybe someone can tell me if I'm doing something wrong.

I went in a bit before 1 am and the place was fairly quiet. Lots of girls, but not many guys. Many were quite attractive, at least upon first glance.

However, the atmosphere was not a very cheerful one. Lots of girls looking depressed, blank stares, etc. A couple of girls approached me and tried to monopolize me, but I am wary of these aggressive ones. (one claimed she was half bolivian and half italian, and she will appear later in this story. We'll call her "the bolivian", even though she turned out to be romanian.)

At the same time, I like a girl who will smile back when I smile or look at her. If she doesn't, I suspect she doesn't find me very attractive, which is also a bad sign.

I tried to get a couple girls to dance a bit when they played a bachata song that I liked, but noone seemed willing. I personally think that a little slow dancing is a nice way to feel out if I'm going to have sexual chemistry with the girl, and not to brag, but i’m quite a good dancer.

So I spent a little time talking to the bolivian and another romanian who had approached me, but told them that I wanted to take my time, explore my options, and that I might get back to them later. Does anyone have any suggestions on doing this without having the girl get offended?

It seems they often get indignant about this, as if they think I owe them something. Of course this is their guilt-trip/power-play, but it really turns me off and makes me not want to go back to them when they do this.

I approached a couple of bulgarians who were playful and were trying for a trio. Nice bodies, ok faces. I took the one I liked best aside, and talked to her for a while. Started to notice the bad teeth, hairy arms, and this was a bit of a turn-off, though she was quite affectionate.

So we ended up getting to the price negotiation, and she wanted 60 euro, but I thought she should be ok with 50 euro, since it was a slow night, and I also consider myself to be a fit, decent-looking guy. Anyway, I know I shouldn’t worry about the 10 euro so much, since talking about the payment too much usually makes me lose my desire!

And this is exactly what started to happen. So I told her I would think about it and get back to her. We had spent about 10 minutes talking alone at that point, so I didn’t feel like I had made her waste a ton of time. But of course, she started giving me the guilt-trip about having wasted her time, etc. And she also became indignant.

The irony is that I probably would have gone with her later, had she not reacted this way when I asked her for more time to think about it!

So after looking around a bit more and not feeling any chemistry from most girls, the bolivian found me again, and basically took my hand and dragged me upstairs to a room! We had not discussed price or expectations at all at that point, but I figured I would at least see what the rooms looked like, and see what kind of vibe I was getting from her.

She asked for payment up front, and I said I was used to paying after the deed, to which she replied that she had been stiffed before, so she needed payment beforehand.

I countered with, "well, are you willing to do anything I want? " to which she responded angrily, "why didn’t you ask me that downstairs? " I said, "you’re the one that dragged me up here! "

And of course at that point it was a lost cause, and I went back downstairs. (I figured out she was romanian when I heard her get on her cell phone, I assume complaining to her friend about what had just happened.)

Round 2: I talked for a while to an older spanish guy, who later introduced me to a romanian "friend" of his, saying she was very nice and affectionate. I decided to see where this would lead, as she was quite attractive, though I had my doubts about the "affectionate" part.

It turned out she was actually getting me going, and was quite nice to talk to and flirt with, so I said after about 5 minutes, "you wanna go up to the room for 50 euro? " she agreed, and I also confirmed that she was willing to be playful and affectionate with me, and do basically anything except anal, which was fine by me.

So we get to the room and I ask her to keep her heels on. She also wanted payment up front, and I said I would put it on the table, so she could take it afterwards, which I did.

I face her toward the wall and start caressing her from behind, lightly holding her hands together against the wall. (this is how I often like to start my interactions.)

After about a minute of this, she moves away and says, "come on, let’s go, " motioning toward the bathroom. I assume she wanted me to wash up to get on with business.

To which I replied, "sorry, but i’m the one who calls the shots here. If you’re not willing to do what I want, we’re gonna have to call this off and go back downstairs. "

So she decided to go back downstairs. I asked her what I had asked for which was such a problem for her, to which she responded angrily, "you’re the problem! "

I told her I did not want mechanical sex, as I had expressed to her before. I said "i’m not a robot, " to which she responded that she wasn’t either. But i’m not sure what kind of sense that makes!

So once again, I returned downstairs alone and "unloved".

By that point, i’m sure all the girls in the bar had put me on their blacklist, so I took off soon after that.

So again I ask, am I doing something wrong here? Am I expecting too much?

I notice that privateer says he talks to a girl for half an hour before deciding. I did not spend anywhere near that amount of time, yet I was frowned upon. What’s going on? I guess it must be me, but what about me, exactly?

[Bluenose5]

Plenty of street walkers in this area. Eventually selected a 28yo Romanian (she looked Ecuadorian). Unfortunately I pulled the wrong one and the experience was mechanical.

Plenty of East Europeans, Africans etc to choose from.

Think I will go to Casa de Campo next time.

[Out for Flesh]

the (still elusive, for me) GFE experience


Privateer, I totally agree with you, as well as john costa. I definitely see the clubs as being the best option, because of the choice and the time to converse. And I am glad that there are others like me, who like to talk for a while before committing.

I too prefer clubs (having been very few times to apartments). It is true that you can have better deals (money-wise) in many apartments, and if you happen to reach the right girl... well, you're fortunate.

In general I'd say that your experience is a typical one for several of us -- maybe a bit "extreme", but not uncommon. I don't think there is anything wrong with you. Only that some girl's business model is not yours, and they just do not want to change it. Full stop.

Estark (where I've been once) is a well-known nest of Romanians. So if you are keen on them, that's perfect. Romanians are however known because of the way they they want to conduct their business, which in many cases includes "my mouth is for eating and my ass is for shitting". You can clearly see I am not fond of them, although I had one or two reasonable experiences in my life.

However, to be true, Estark has _many_ fans in other, Spanish speaking, fora. There are many people who swear about them to the point of learning Romanian. They will of course tell you about how pretty they are (OK), how well-educated they are (hmmm... maybe), how... etc. I'm of course OK with that as this is their choice. However, given that 95% of the girls in Estark are Romanians, there is no escape but abiding by their business model since they have no other model to compete with: it's a monopoly, and they have customers galore. Let me tell you that in other places where Romanians and, say, girls from Central- and South-America work, they just do not get along with each other. I'd say that the shark style and the "let's do it my way even if you pay" are, from my experience, very Eastern.


However, I tried diana plus (estark) tonight and had a disappointing experience. Maybe someone can tell me if I'm doing something wrong.

In general Saturday is a bad day, in my experience, and maybe even worst in August. The lack of clients (many people go on vacation) may explain the lack of happiness (reported later) in the girls.


I went in a bit before 1 am and the place was fairly quiet. Lots of girls, but not many guys. Many were quite attractive, at least upon first glance.

This I can agree. Eastern girls can be very attractive with superb bodies. Some of them may have, as you reported later, bad teeth.


However, the atmosphere was not a very cheerful one. Lots of girls looking depressed, blank stares, etc. A couple of girls approached me and tried to monopolize me, but I am wary of these aggressive ones. (one claimed she was half bolivian and half italian, and she will appear later in this story. We'll call her "the bolivian", even though she turned out to be romanian.)

Hehe. Some Romanians, aware that they are not very well perceived by some clients, are just starting to ask me "do you have anything against Romanians", or to say that they are Italians, or Moldavians. The latter may be explained because most people do not know what / where Moldova is. As far as I know, one could take Moldova as a sort of Romania with another name, regarding the girls. I'll be very happy to be corrected.


I tried to get a couple girls to dance a bit when they played a bachata song that I liked, but noone seemed willing. I personally think that a little slow dancing is a nice way to feel out if I'm going to have sexual chemistry with the girl, and not to brag, but i’m quite a good dancer.

Uh. Never tried that. I'm not a very good dancer, but anyway probably dancing with a girl is not what she expected. Especially, maybe, with an EE girl. Was anyone else dancing? Any girl, even alone? One sometimes sees this in places with a lot of space (e.g., Factory Air).


So I spent a little time talking to the bolivian and another Romanian who had approached me, but told them that I wanted to take my time, explore my options, and that I might get back to them later. Does anyone have any suggestions on doing this without having the girl get offended?

What you do is exactly what I do. Actually I never mention "other options". "Other options" may be, for her, a clear sign of "get off here". Even if you really mean that: sit around for some time while pondering the ambient.


It seems they often get indignant about this, as if they think I owe them something. Of course this is their guilt-trip/power-play, but it really turns me off and makes me not want to go back to them when they do this.

I do not really pay any attention to this. If they walk away, that is probably one more girl who'll not give me a good service, and it is good that she runs away. I think they suppose they are upholding their honor and they are loosing money and clients.


I approached a couple of bulgarians who were playful and were trying for a trio. Nice bodies, ok faces. I took the one I liked best aside, and talked to her for a while. Started to notice the bad teeth, hairy arms, and this was a bit of a turn-off, though she was quite affectionate.

I once (and only once) had a good session with a Bulgarian. She was definitely on the kinky side.


So we ended up getting to the price negotiation, and she wanted 60 euro, but I thought she should be ok with 50 euro, since it was a slow night, and I also consider myself to be a fit, decent-looking guy. Anyway, I know I shouldn’t worry about the 10 euro so much, since talking about the payment too much usually makes me lose my desire!

And this is exactly what started to happen. So I told her I would think about it and get back to her. We had spent about 10 minutes talking alone at that point, so I didn’t feel like I had made her waste a ton of time. But of course, she started giving me the guilt-trip about having wasted her time, etc. And she also became indignant.

Again, I never pay attention to this and in fact I think I never received that "wasting time" answer. One thing is that, of course, I _always_ smile a lot when telling them "you know, I always prefer to finish my drink here, slowly, and I decide what to do at the end. If you are around by then, I may very well call you!". But I say this only before negotiating phase, and maybe after just two or three minutes talking, and after the girl has suggested me to go upstairs or asked me what are my plans.


The irony is that I probably would have gone with her later, had she not reacted this way when I asked her for more time to think about it!

So after looking around a bit more and not feeling any chemistry from most girls, the bolivian found me again, and basically took my hand and dragged me upstairs to a room! We had not discussed price or expectations at all at that point, but I figured I would at least see what the rooms looked like, and see what kind of vibe I was getting from her.

Oops. My feeling is that when one goes upstairs there is a "deal closed" kind of thing. I suppose that it is unusual that a client refuses to go further after entering the room, like "I do not like how the room looks". That's of no interest for her, because all rooms are basically the same, so what else could a client be looking for in that place? I do not mean your attitude was wrong; only maybe unexpected for her.


She asked for payment up front, and I said I was used to paying after the deed, to which she replied that she had been stiffed before, so she needed payment beforehand.

The same can apply to you. I always use the "In a restaurant one pays after the meal is finished, not before" thing. One thing I like about Brazilians is that seem to accept that one pays after the deed.


I countered with, "well, are you willing to do anything I want? " to which she responded angrily, "why didn’t you ask me that downstairs? " I said, "you’re the one that dragged me up here! And of course at that point it was a lost cause, and I went back downstairs. (I figured out she was romanian when I heard her get on her cell phone, I assume complaining to her friend about what had just happened.)

Well done, I said. Several times I had been told, after negotiating downstairs, "You did not tell that" or "I did not understand that". BTW, "anything I want" is too vague. I'd rather be specific. They should be used to (being asked to) do mostly everything. Many a time the conversation goes like this:

- What do you do?
- Everything you want!
- Do you do anal?
- No.

The logic behind this I am unable to grasp.


It turned out she was actually getting me going, and was quite nice to talk to and flirt with, so I said after about 5 minutes, "you wanna go up to the room for 50 euro? " she agreed, and I also confirmed that she was willing to be playful and affectionate with me, and do basically anything except anal, which was fine by me.

So we get to the room and I ask her to keep her heels on. She also wanted payment up front, and I said I would put it on the table, so she could take it afterwards, which I did.

I face her toward the wall and start caressing her from behind, lightly holding her hands together against the wall. (this is how I often like to start my interactions.)

After about a minute of this, she moves away and says, "come on, let’s go, " motioning toward the bathroom. I assume she wanted me to wash up to get on with business.

Get on with business and finish with them as soon as possible.


To which I replied, "sorry, but i’m the one who calls the shots here. If you’re not willing to do what I want, we’re gonna have to call this off and go back downstairs. "

So she decided to go back downstairs. I asked her what I had asked for which was such a problem for her, to which she responded angrily, "you’re the problem! "

[quote]I told her I did not want mechanical sex, as I had expressed to her before. I said "i’m not a robot, " to which she responded that she wasn’t either. But i’m not sure what kind of sense that makes!

To me that means she's not there to just follow your commands. Yes, that does not make sense. But, hey, we're speaking about "chica logic", so usual logic is just not applicable.

[quote]By that point, i’m sure all the girls in the bar had put me on their blacklist, so I took off soon after that.

Very probably. You are not alone. Lately, I am going back barehanded (even in places where I am a regular) very often. Well, it may be that I am becoming more picky, or that quality / attention / whatever is going down.


So again I ask, am I doing something wrong here? Am I expecting too much?

I do not see doing anything wrong - but maybe your idea of business is very far away from that of the EE girls, and you had no choice at that place.


I notice that privateer says he talks to a girl for half an hour before deciding. I did not spend anywhere near that amount of time, yet I was frowned upon. What’s going on? I guess it must be me, but what about me, exactly?

Well, maybe Privateer is really a charming character. Good for him! I, personally, do not recall having talked with a girl that long, except once (that was a Brazilian girl, not extremely attractive, but very intelligent, good talker, and a naughty girl in bed). But this is not my norm, although I can see people doing that. And maybe leaving after half an hour of talking without the girl. Mi impression is that if you make a club girl laugh, she won't have an indignant attitude towards you afterwards, no matter what you do. Me, I cannot make a chick laugh as I just don't laugh myself.

[Spanishdick]

Thanks for the advise lately guys.

I am back in Madrid (last week) and the first thing I did was get in the car and head towards Mirador on the N1. I have spent the last few weeks trying not to think about my girl there, but I couldn't get her out of my head. I have made the number one mistake for a john and that is to fall for a pro.

Anyway, I remembered all the suggestions you guys made and before I got to Mirador I stopped at Lovely. I know that some people don't like it very much, but I have been there many times and always had a good experience. There are some pushy girls, but I have been there enough that many know me and will come to my side when I come in, even though I won' go upstairs with them.

Anyway, I went in and saw Rose, a dark haired, big breasted Bulgarian. She doesn't have the prettiest face, but nothing terrible. I'd give her a 6 or 7. But her breasts are huge and completely natural. I have seen her a few times, but never been with her. We have talked and I gave her a 20 Euro tip one night because we talked for 45 minutes without going upstairs. She was really happy to see me and came right up and started talking.

It was good to see someone I knew and we talked for about 20 minutes before she even suggested going upstairs. I wanted to finish my drink and she said fine, but she wasn't going to let any other girls have me. I laughed and we continued talking. Then she started to rub against me and took my hand under her top to feel her breasts, then she turned her back to me and started to rub her ass against me. That was just the right thing and soon I was as hard as a rock. She kept moving against me and let me touch her some more.

So we went upstairs and starting kissing. She undressed me and starting licking my nipples and grabbing my cock. She then took me into the bathroom and gave me a very sensual washing and I watched her as she washed herself. She even washed her tits and started to finger herself. Then she took my hand and put my fingers inside her to feel how wet she was. She really wanted it.

Back into the bedroom she pushed me onto the bed and started with BBBJ. I have a pretty good sized dick and she was trying to take it all the way in. She kept looking me straight in the eyes and rubbing herself against my leg. Then she wrapped her tits around my cock and started giving me an amazing titfuck. Every time my dick would pop up between her tits, she would wrap her lips around the head and give it a quick suck.

I told her I was ready to come and she stopped and grabbed the head of my cock so I would stop. Then she started kissing me again. Finally she put a condom in her mouth and slid it onto my cock, and climbed on top. She was soaking wet and started fingering herself with my cock inside her. I had a perfect view of her huge tits bouncing as she went up and down. I love big naturals and she was just going. I have been with a number of girls who fake it, and usually you can tell. But Rose was very much into it. Her face and neck were blushed red and her nipples were sticking out like buttons, and I could feel her muscles contracting around my cock as she came.

I was enjoying watching her enjoy herself so much that I didn't want to come. But eventually she could feel me get even harder and suddenly got off of me and pulled of the condom. She sucked me some more and then just as I started to come she squeezed the base of cock and aimed all my come on her tits. I shot so hard that the come was in her hair, on her face and between her tits. She rubbed my cock on her tits and squeezed out every last drop,and then she took my hand and rubbed my fingers inside her again to show how wet she was.

I was exhausted and we were both sweating like crazy. She then laid down next to me and continued to stroke my cock and rub it against her stomach. We talked for about 10 minutes. Then we went into the bathroom and she washed us both. I then went back down for another drink and we talked some more. When I left she asked me not to forget about her!

My rating:
Face = 6
Body = 8
Personality = 9
GFE = 10

Amazing girl, much better than I had expected. Perhaps because it is the summer and business is slow. She said she was bored and maybe I was just good entertainment for a slow Thursday night. There were hardly any guys there.

I love Madrid in the summer!

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[Privateer]

Braniac,

It was interesting to read your experiences at Diana Plus / Estark. Although I've never been to this club I do have some remarks and suggestions with regard to some of the things you wrote in your report, which I hope will help you a next visit to another club more successful. Perhaps these can be of interest to some of the other forum members as well.

First of all, I too have had a couple of disappointing experiences at clubs, mainly during the first few times when I visited them, so as far as that goes there's nothing wrong with you. One can only learn from a disappointing evening at a club and it certainly helped to make my successive visits far more satisfying. Most important thing is not to think much about is and in your case you at least didn't waste your money on something you wish you hadn't - I assume you took your money back with you after you left the room with the Rumanian from "Round 2"...?


I went in a bit before 1 am and the place was fairly quiet. Lots of girls, but not many guys. Many were quite attractive, at least upon first glance.

However, the atmosphere was not a very cheerful one. Lots of girls looking depressed, blank stares, etc. A couple of girls approached me and tried to monopolize me, but I am wary of these aggressive ones...Beware of attractiveness upon first glance, especially since most clubs, the bar area included, are rather badly lit. I've had a few occasions that a girl whom I thought was quite appealing actually wasn't so appealing once I got to see her from nearby or in an area of the club with better lighting. Regarding the depressed looks and blank stares: well they just could have had a bad day at work - remember like us, they're also humans (yes, even the Rumanian ones ;)). Very good of you that you're wary of the aggressive ones, as a rule I always get rid of these since they're mostly after a quick earning and don't care whether you leave the place satisfied or not. They generally annoy the shit out of me and their overall attitude sucks!


I tried to get a couple girls to dance a bit when they played a bachata song that I liked, but none seemed willing. I personally think that a little slow dancing is a nice way to feel out if I'm going to have sexual chemistry with the girl, and not to brag, but i’m quite a good dancer.Don't worry or bother too much about dancing with a girl. Based on my own experiences girls at clubs are - as OFF (Out for Flesh) wrote - not into that. During all my club visits only once it has happened that a girl wanted to slow dance a few minutes with me, and unlike a Rumanian of course she was cheerful outgoing Brazilian. After we already had been talking some time and one of her favourite songs was played, she totally unexpectedly threw her arms around me and began to slow dance with me. Rest assured OFF, like you my dancing skills are also pretty lousy :rolleyes:.


So I spent a little time talking to the bolivian and another romanian who had approached me, but told them that I wanted to take my time, explore my options, and that I might get back to them later. Does anyone have any suggestions on doing this without having the girl get offended?If she gets offended too bad for her, for me this could be an indication that a girls' attitude (and service) is "so so" afterall, meaning that she's probably not worth your money. If you don't want to offend a girl whom you are considering spending time with, don't tell her that you are still "exploring your options". Tell her i.e.: 1) you are in no rush or 2) you need to finish your drink - drink slowly or order another one if needed!


It seems they often get indignant about this, as if they think I owe them something. Of course this is their guilt-trip/power-play, but it really turns me off and makes me not want to go back to them when they do this.When you're still in the bar area and haven't agreed to anything you bloody well owe them NOTHING/ZILCH/ZERO - in any case ignore their pathetic guilt-trip. It's perfectly normal that this turns you off - I myself would rather burn my money instead of spending it on a girl that tries to play games like that with me.


I approached a couple of Bulgarians who were playful and were trying for a trio. Nice bodies, ok faces. I took the one I liked best aside, and talked to her for a while. Started to notice the bad teeth, hairy arms, and this was a bit of a turn-off, though she was quite affectionate.Based on what I've witnessed, they either have a lack of proper dentists in Rumania/Bulgaria or simply can't afford going to the dentist in these countries. Bad teeth = often bad breath = off-putting! I don't want to French kiss a girl whose breath smells worse then that of my parents' 16-year old dog - yuck! :eek:


So we ended up getting to the price negotiation, and she wanted 60 euro, but I thought she should be ok with 50 euro, since it was a slow night, and I also consider myself to be a fit, decent-looking guy. Anyway, I know I shouldn’t worry about the 10 euro so much, since talking about the payment too much usually makes me lose my desire!

And this is exactly what started to happen. So I told her I would think about it and get back to her. We had spent about 10 minutes talking alone at that point, so I didn’t feel like I had made her waste a ton of time. But of course, she started giving me the guilt-trip about having wasted her time, etc. And she also became indignant.I have to agree with OFF again on this - don't pay any attention and in case her guilt-trip does affect you (even if it's only slightly) NEVER show this to her. In any case she mustn't get the impression that she's getting to you, because YOU are the one that must remain in charge of the situation and not her!


So after looking around a bit more and not feeling any chemistry from most girls, the bolivian found me again, and basically took my hand and dragged me upstairs to a room! We had not discussed price or expectations at all at that point, but I figured I would at least see what the rooms looked like, and see what kind of vibe I was getting from her.Oh boy, her dragging you to a room is not good - I once had an experience where I also let myself being dragged out of the bar area to a room at Sirenas club in Moncofa, Valencia (see my report http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=629737&postcount=67). The result: a very disattisfying experience and a waste of money :(. In that particular case I also hadn't discussed expectations, whether she agreed to kissing on the mouth/French kissing, etc. Guess what happened once we were in the room - there was no vibe between us at all!! I would advice you to never let this happen again - again the Nr. 1 rule is: you are in control, not she!


She asked for payment up front, and I said I was used to paying after the deed, to which she replied that she had been stiffed before, so she needed payment beforehand.Based on what I've experienced payment up-front isn't uncommon - I've had cases where I've paid up-front and also after having sex with a girl at a club. All I can say about this: it depends on the girl. In most cases where I had to pay up-front I had to hand the money not to the girl, but to a "Mama". Though I've had a few disappointing sexual experiences, so far I've never been cheated out of my money at a club.


I countered with, "well, are you willing to do anything I want? " to which she responded angrily, "why didn’t you ask me that downstairs? " I said, "you’re the one that dragged me up here! "

And of course at that point it was a lost cause, and I went back downstairs. (I figured out she was romanian when I heard her get on her cell phone, I assume complaining to her friend about what had just happened.)Unlike you, I was stupid enough not to leave the room after I was dragged there, so I must say you made a wise decision to do so! Having said this in my particular situation occasion I already left my money with "Mama", meaning that leaving the room wouldn't have made any difference anymore.


Round 2: I talked for a while to an older spanish guy, who later introduced me to a romanian "friend" of his, saying she was very nice and affectionate. I decided to see where this would lead, as she was quite attractive, though I had my doubts about the "affectionate" part.

It turned out she was actually getting me going, and was quite nice to talk to and flirt with, so I said after about 5 minutes, "you wanna go up to the room for 50 euro? " she agreed, and I also confirmed that she was willing to be playful and affectionate with me, and do basically anything except anal, which was fine by me.

So we get to the room and I ask her to keep her heels on. She also wanted payment up front, and I said I would put it on the table, so she could take it afterwards, which I did.

I face her toward the wall and start caressing her from behind, lightly holding her hands together against the wall. (this is how I often like to start my interactions.)

After about a minute of this, she moves away and says, "come on, let’s go, " motioning toward the bathroom. I assume she wanted me to wash up to get on with business.Yep that's Rumanians for you: that's why I am generally not very fond of them... and after reading quite a lot of messages in the Spanish forum I believe I am not the only one with that opinion. They can be pretty cold-hearted, often not very willing to please and in many cases even kissing on the mouth (en la boca) is too much to ask for! Unlike Latino chicas whom almost always passionately say "si" if I ask them about kissing on the mouth, those darn cold-hearted Rumanians wouldn't do it under any circumstance in a majority of the cases I asked them how they felt about this. So far I've only had one nice experience with a girl from Rumania, which makes their "score" pretty poor compared to my experiences with i.e. Brazilian babes. Btw. her motioning to the bathroom is indeed an indication that she wants you to wash your private parts, which is perfectly normal. You washing up shows some respect to the girl you're with and perhaps in your case she was worried that you would forget to do so before going any further (I'm merely guessing). I myself prefer to take a shower (with of course the girl) prior to doing the "wild thing".


To which I replied, "sorry, but i’m the one who calls the shots here. If you’re not willing to do what I want, we’re gonna have to call this off and go back downstairs. "

So she decided to go back downstairs. I asked her what I had asked for which was such a problem for her, to which she responded angrily, "you’re the problem! "

I told her I did not want mechanical sex, as I had expressed to her before. I said "i’m not a robot, " to which she responded that she wasn’t either. But i’m not sure what kind of sense that makes!To me it seems like she wasn't prepared to keep her end of the agreement between the two of you. Maybe you should have followed her into the bathroom and see how things went on for another couple of minutes. If after that it would have been clear she was going to do things on her terms rather then yours, then you still could have called the whole thing off and gone downstairs.


So once again, I returned downstairs alone and "unloved".
Believe me: better alone and with your money still in your pocket then wasting your money on a lousy experience!


By that point, i’m sure all the girls in the bar had put me on their blacklist, so I took off soon after that.Hmmmm, after reading this (and the reply posted by OFF) I think I'll put Estark on my blacklist - far too many Rumanian females there.


So again I ask, am I doing something wrong here? Am I expecting too much?No, I don't think you're doing anything wrong in particular - I think you just were unlucky and visited the place at a bad evening: nothing more, nothing less. Forget about this joint, and visit another club next time you when you feel like it (don't try to force the issue). From what I've read I think I also would have left the place alone and "unloved", had I visited it on the evening you did.


I notice that privateer says he talks to a girl for half an hour before deciding. I did not spend anywhere near that amount of time, yet I was frowned upon. What’s going on? I guess it must be me, but what about me, exactly?Hey, this half an hour or so chit-chat doesn't always happen and it most certainly isn't something I plan in advance. It just happens or not, though I have to say that during my latter club visits it seems to happen every time. Having said that it doesn't happen with every girl and most certainly not with the aggressive ones - I just consider myself a bit fortunate to have ended up with good company during my more recent visits to clubs. So far I've never been able to predict how an evening at a club will progress or whether I'll end up getting laid or not, meaning that my next club visit could very well be a disappointment for a change. My general rule is to expect nothing and to be open-minded when going to one. Finally, stop relating what happened at Estark to yourself - let's say you just had a bad day at "the office".

Privateer

[John Costa]

Sounds like a great time you had there.

It puts into perspective what we go for, fantastic GFE and having great fun without falling in love, unless that is what you want. If I am liking someone a little too much (like you have yourself) I have a crazy night and then realise I am only there for fun and I honestly believe GFE is available in every club. I suppose it is all down to yourself, attitude & experience on how good it is.

Good luck, by the way have you seen the other chica yet??

JC

[Out for Flesh]

Good luck, by the way have you seen the other chica yet??


Maybe SpanishDick has purposedly remained silent about this :-)

[Spanishdick]

Hey Out For Flesh, yes i was keeping quiet about the GFE. I am afraid that I am not over my little friend yet, but I am not letting that stop me from having fun! I let myself fall for her and I don't think there is much that a person can do to stop that. Sometimes there is a spark, or chemistry, or something that you can't explain and you can't stop. This is the first time that I have fallen for a pro.

I did end up going to Mirador this evening- I couldn't help it. I just needed to see her and see if what I felt was real. Thankfully she was not there. But her roommate was and she came up to me right away and started talking. She told me that Anna Marie was back in Romania for vacation and would be back at the end of the month. We talked for a bit and she told me she would let AM know I was looking for her.

I knew another girl there and we just talked for awhile. I told her that I didn't want to have sex tonight because I really missed AM. We talked about this idea of falling in love with a working girl and she told me she had fallen for a client before, and they were together for about 6 months. She broke up with him because he was a nice guy and she knew she didn't want to stop working yet. She enjoys the life and the money and didn't want to hurt him.

So I guess the point she was making was that these girls are human and they too have feelings. But she didn't think my girl was the real thing. Maybe that was her business sense at work trying to close the deal. Anyway I finished my drink, gave her a kiss and promised the next time if AM wasn't there.

I started driving back to Madrid and decided to just stop in for one more drink at Lovely. I enjoy the company of the bartender there. She is a very pretty Romanian who always teases me about my poor spoken Spanish. We flirt a lot, but I know that she is an impossible goal. She isn't a pro, just the bartender. Now she is the type you can really fall in love with, but I know she is not interested in a guy who comes to the club looking for sex. Oh well.

So I got in to Lovely, ordered my drink, talked a little with the bartender (I think her names is Maria). Then Rafaela, a hot Brazilian came up to me. We have talked before, but always after I had been upstairs.

Tonight she was not taking no for an answer.

Talk about the ultimate GFE!
She started dancing slowly to the music and feeling my nipples while we talked. She said that I seemed romantic and wanted to make love, not just have sex. She asked me to kiss her and we started making out at the bar. She let me run my hands up her short skirt and inside her tight top, while she gave me a nice rubbing and kissing my neck.

I didn't even bother finishing the drink and just took it up with us. I usually like to talk and finish my drink. In my experience, if I am seriously interested in the girl she doesn't mind waiting. But I am also honest and will tell her right away if I am interested or not. Very few girls have ever given me a hard time about that. A few will, usually the EE girls (but I still love the dark haired Romanians and Bulgarians).
So we got upstairs and she took off her top to show me the perfect (fake) tits. I don't care if they are fake or not as long as they look good, and these were amazing. I couldn't see a scar anywhere, but they were so high and perky that they had to be fake. She is very tall, about 5 foot 8. Dark tanned skin, with perfect tan lines from a thong on her ass. And what an ass. Perfect, round, tanned, and tasty.

She took off my clothes slowly and then asked if I wanted to pay now or later. I paid then so I could just forget about it and enjoy the time. I paid 70 Euros, offered for 30 minutes, but I had a feeling it would last longer. She didn't seem in a hurry so I didn't bother negotiating. I also find that if you want a good GFE, you just pay and shut up. If you get into negotiating, things tend to get a little too business like and that messes up the whole point. What do I care if she gets 50, 60, or 70 for the half hour. The girl is going to work for it or I won't repeat.

So we went in and she gave me an very slow and sexy washing. She really took her time and stroked my cock as well as cleaning it. She took a long time rubbing and soaking my balls, which just about made me explode. The whole time I was feeling her ass and kissing her legs and arms and breasts.

Then she washed and we went to the bed. I sat down and she backed up to me and bent over so I could get a perfect view of her ass and pussy. I just buried my face in and had some very good DATY. She was bent over grabbing my cock at the same time as I was eating her.

Then she sat down on my lap with my cock sticking up between her legs and she started to stroke me some more.

Then she pushed me onto the bed and started playing with my balls. She was dining like she had not eaten for a month. I have never had a girl lick my balls that well. She was moaning and saying how much big balls turned her on. She continued on with some BBBJ and then put a condom on me. I wanted to have her sit on top and ride me cowboy style, but she insisted that I get on top. She said she liked the feel of big balls slapping her ass while she gets fucked. So slap away I did!

She then reached underneath and started playing with my balls, squeezing them soft then hard. I still wanted to have her on top, but then she started to DFk, scratching my back and squeezing her pussy tight. I didn't have time to pull out for a condom free shot, I just exploded inside her. I think for a moment that I couldn't see because it felt so good.

When I pulled out of her, she held my cock and asked me to lay down next to her. So I lay there and she kept squeezing my cock with the condom on making sure she got out every drop. Then we talked for about 15 minutes or more about just stuff. She gave me her phone number, her email address and her web site address. She offered to spend the night with me later this week and has her own place in Madrid. She said she would give me a massage, make us breakfast and we could talk and sleep and do whatever, only 200E. That sort of woke me up from the GFE, but hey, I think that would be worth it!

So, the short end of the story: Girl Friend Experience in Spain is the best, and is easy to find if you are willing to treat the girl right. Remember she is a real person, and has real feelings. If the chemistry is there, you'll get the time of your life. I think the roadside clubs are the best place for this. And it seems a lot of the girls have their places in the city. (They must make good money.)

I have learned my lesson about falling in love. Just don't do it, if you can help it. But sometimes you can't help it. I have had 3 great experiences this last week with girls who know how I feel about one of their own. They have treated me very well and tried to help me out.

But in the end, I think I am still in love with her. I guess time heals and makes us wiser. She hasn't done anything to hurt me. She is what she is, and she does her job very well. Her job was to make me feel that she was my girlfriend and she was excellent at it. It was up to me to keep control and I didn't manage. Now, I'll just avoid her and keep enjoying the entertainment of the other rides.

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[Out for Flesh]

I vote Spanishdick for Monger of the Month. Bravo!

[Privateer]

Well, maybe Privateer is really a charming character. Good for him! I, personally, do not recall having talked with a girl that long, except once (that was a Brazilian girl, not extremely attractive, but very intelligent, good talker, and a naughty girl in bed). But this is not my norm, although I can see people doing that. And maybe leaving after half an hour of talking without the girl. Mi impression is that if you make a club girl laugh, she won't have an indignant attitude towards you afterwards, no matter what you do. Me, I cannot make a chick laugh as I just don't laugh myself.Pffff, I consider myself not that charming, but thanks anyway. I'm always myself when going to a club - perhaps some of the girls like that. Frequently I've been told by girls who approach me that I'm cute, beautiful & cuddly (but we all know, myself included, that a lot they say is generally crap). Although girls at a club are of course bluntly said wh*res, they're still females which means that - like with other females - things could work to your advantage by:


Showing them a good sense of humour
Managing to make them laugh (which indeed mostly is appreciated and "it brakes the ice" as well)
Treating them a little bit like a lady for a while (instead of a wh*re)
Offering some chocolate - never forget: women (those in the clubs included) are almost always suckers for chocolate ;)



Hehe. Some Romanians, aware that they are not very well perceived by some clients, are just starting to ask me "do you have anything against Romanians", or to say that they are Italians, or Moldavians. The latter may be explained because most people do not know what / where Moldova is. As far as I know, one could take Moldova as a sort of Romania with another name, regarding the girls. I'll be very happy to be corrected.Well no need to correct you on that matter - as Moldova borders to Rumania there's indeed no difference with regard to the overall attitude of girls from either one of these countries in the clubs. As you probably know by now they're generally not my favourite choice when visiting a club.


However, to be true, Estark has _many_ fans in other, Spanish speaking, fora. There are many people who swear about them to the point of learning Romanian. They will of course tell you about how pretty they are (OK), how well-educated they are (hmmm... maybe), how... etc.How well-educated they are :confused: - let's face it: if they had a university level education it would be highly unlikely they would be working at a club in the first place. I don't know what some of these "fans" are thinking, but in this case I'd say I can't agree with them.


However, given that 95% of the girls in Estark are Romanians, there is no escape but abiding by their business model since they have no other model to compete with: it's a monopoly, and they have customers galore. Let me tell you that in other places where Romanians and, say, girls from Central- and South-America work, they just do not get along with each other.Estark sounds like a place I'm going to avoid - 95% Rumanians is more than I can bear, but perhaps I'm being too negative... don't hesitate to correct me on this if needed.

I've witnessed first hand that eastern European and Latin American babes indeed don't get along very well. During my first visit at El Conejo de la Suerte I was spending time bar with this lovely blonde Brazilian (with whom I btw. did end up in a room). Due to a lack of seats I was standing and she was sitting while we were talking to each other. When two cheeky girls, who clearly were east European, came along and stood next to me one of them teasingly started to slap my rear end, while the other grabbed my chin and looked at me in a horny, seductive manner. You should have seen the look on the face of the Brazilian girl when this happened - her eyes were full of fury and she almost ignited because these two cheeky chicks were messing around with "her business". Once the two east European girls noticed that the Brazilian babe was far from amused with their behaviour they walked on, which given the situation probably was a wise decision of them.

Privateer

[El Burro]

I can relate in some way to what the fellas say about the attitude of Romanian babes in the Spanish clubs. As a rule I much prefer latinas. However I do feel obliged to stick up for them as several have treated me amazingly well. I've sampled over 200 Romanians, mostly in Spain and some elsewhere. Sure there have been some frustrating encounters among them but usually my success rate is high. I find it pretty straightforward to detect the kind hearted ladies. And there really are sweet girls out there. What I have notice is that the Romanians may tend to display a hard demeanour in front of their mates in the bar but can be quite different alone upstairs.

I feel for the chap that suffered a frustrating time in Agua massge. Consensus here seems to be that the clubs offer best opportunity for a good time. That's probably true however there is a huge scope in the city. I have identified 27 hot spots of various descriptions within within walking distance of Casa Burro alone and well over 100 city wide. Currently I get out to the clubs once or twice a week and enjoy the rest of my weekly action among the privees, fast fucks and massage parlours around the city. True it is very hit and miss but I do come across some wonderful babes along the way who treat me as well any puti-club babe. It's just that it takes a huge effort to track them down but now I've been around a while my little black book is filling up. And just like club girls it is possible to wind up entangled in out-of-hours relationships. I wouldn't recommend this scene over the clubs for casual city visitors but if you are around Madrid for a while then it is well worth investigating.

[John Costa]

Have to agree El Burro

Although some are pains in the arse there is a lot of nice girls from romania, a coupe of my best gfe experiences have been romanian.

I think the problem is that there are so many of them that you come across quite a few shit ones with attitude, the same would also apply I am sure if a club was full colombian / brasilian. Latinas have to be my favourite overall for great sex & fun.

I very rarely have problems these days with any girls as I can usually tell what the attitude will be like upstairs while talking to them at the bar, your summary of their demeanour in front of the other girls is spot on, they give very little away to the other girls and almost always play it as though they are very hard & tough with guys (until they get you upstairs).

So guys it just takes a little work to sort them out but if you do you can have a very good time with romanian girls.

JC

[El Burro]

Would you share some of the contact info for privats in your black book. Just your top 5 will work for me.

Happy mongering.

Beijing, I attempted to send you a PM but it seems you disabled this function.

[Dan Ward]

Right lads,

I am off to Madrid in ten days, usually stay on the Gran Via near Calle Montera and all the action near Calle Luna. I fancy staying a bit further away from the town centre but still within walkng distance from some clubs, any ideas where I should base myself and any tips on hotels appreciated.

Full report on my return.

[Beijing ABC]

Been to Madrid for over 2 months and decided to try some of the actions at FP. Took the Metro to Charmintin Station to change to C8 to Los Matas. Had problems find the platform where the train departs due to construction in the station and no sign. For follow monger it is Via 7 even though it reads C10 but it is C8. About 30 minutes later got into Los Matas Station, cross the pedestrian bridge and walked north and swing a right and you are in the club.

Did not pay for entrance fee as nobody asked infront. Got there about 600 pm. Place is quite pack and ladies are just getting into the club. Must be 20 or so customers and same numbers of ladies. Got talking to this Bulgarian chick about 5-8 125 and busty. Maybe a 7/10. She told me 55 Euros for 30 mintues. Turned her down as Eastern European is not my cup of tea. Ordered a 10 Euros beer and sat in the bar and watch the people go by for about an hour. Then ran into a brown hair Brazilian chick. She told me she is from San Paulo, 27 about 5-8 and 120 or so. Not a pretty, probably 8/10 but rock solid body and great personality. She wanted 70 Euros for 30 minuites and I said lets go. Went upstair to third floor, paid 5 Euros for the sheet. When to the toliet and she washed my dick and we started GF activities on the bed. She is very cooperative and no rush. Standard french kiss, BBJ, cowgirl, missionary activities. Did not feel rush.Completed mabye 35 minutes and out the door in about 45 minutes. She seemed to be quite warm and pleasant to talk to inspite of the language barrier. Is this standard experience and did I pay too much for service rendered. Tell me some other Brazilain ladies that you have successful encountered in Flowre Park. I will want to go back before I leave Madrid Aug 30.

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[Beijing ABC]

Right lads,

I am off to Madrid in ten days, usually stay on the Gran Via near Calle Montera and all the action near Calle Luna. I fancy staying a bit further away from the town centre but still within walkng distance from some clubs, any ideas where I should base myself and any tips on hotels appreciated.

Full report on my return.Dan, try to stay at either Plaza Mayor or Tribunal area. The area is small and all within 15 minutes walk. Been to the areas mentioned, saw some SWs but quality not good. There are lots of pickpockets in that area, so watch out for your valuables.

[Out for Flesh]

Been to Madrid for over 2 months and decided to try some of the actions at FP. Took the Metro to Charmintin Station to change to C8 to Los Matas. Had problems find the platform where the train departs due to construction in the station and no sign. For follow monger it is Via 7 even though it reads C10 but it is C8. About 30 minutes later got into Los Matas Station, cross the pedestrian bridge and walked north and swing a right and you are in the club.

Did not pay for entrance fee as nobody asked infront. Got there about 600 pm. Place is quite pack and ladies are just getting into the club. Must be 20 or so customers and same numbers of ladies. Got talking to this Bulgarian chick about 5-8 125 and busty. Maybe a 7/10. She told me 55 Euros for 30 mintues. Turned her down as Eastern European is not my cup of tea. Ordered a 10 Euros beer and sat in the bar and watch the people go by for about an hour. Then ran into a brown hair Brazilian chick. She told me she is from San Paulo, 27 about 5-8 and 120 or so. Not a pretty, probably 8/10 but rock solid body and great personality. She wanted 70 Euros for 30 minuites and I said lets go. Went upstair to third floor, paid 5 Euros for the sheet. When to the toliet and she washed my dick and we started GF activities on the bed. She is very cooperative and no rush. Standard french kiss, BBJ, cowgirl, missionary activities. Did not feel rush.Completed mabye 35 minutes and out the door in about 45 minutes. She seemed to be quite warm and pleasant to talk to inspite of the language barrier. Is this standard experience and did I pay too much for service rendered. Tell me some other Brazilain ladies that you have successful encountered in Flowre Park. I will want to go back before I leave Madrid Aug 30.

Beijing,

the closest train station to go to FP is Principe Pio. Not much of a difference, actually, maybe 10 minutes faster. Don't know about the difference in the frequency of trains going to FP, but from Principe Pio you may get trains two different trains, while I think that you can only take one from Chamartin. Double check this, though. Of course if Chamartin is close to where you're staying, nothing of the above applies.

70 E / 30 min. is standard rate. You may want to try to bargain it down to 60 or so, but not always. And, since you stayed for a bit more than 30 min. I'd say you were not paying too much. One thing I usually do is to raise a bit the amount (say, 80) and raise the time (say, 45 min.). This usually works.

A Brazilian I've been with lately (sorry, no report yet...) is Beatriz. I think she's new in FP. About 1.65, dark hair and tanned face, not really handsome but attractive and with a solid body. Will do everything but CIM. I have a picture to post but no time to write a real report...

Have fun!

[Bluebell]

Can you tell me what the operating hours for FP are?

[Out for Flesh]

Can you tell me what the operating hours for FP are?

5 pm to 5 am, IIRC. If in doubt, 6 to 4 is a conservative approximation.

[Dan Ward]

Right lads, have booked into the Westin at Plaza de las Cortes. Any clubs close by?

[Beijing ABC]

5 pm to 5 am, IIRC. If in doubt, 6 to 4 is a conservative approximation.About right. Went there on last Saturday about 615 pm but about half full of customers. Never stayed past midnight. 5 or 6 am depending on the time of the year and customers.

[Pistolaso]

Right lads,

I am off to Madrid in ten days, usually stay on the Gran Via near Calle Montera and all the action near Calle Luna. I fancy staying a bit further away from the town centre but still within walkng distance from some clubs, any ideas where I should base myself and any tips on hotels appreciated.

Full report on my return.Hello Dan Ward,

The Westin Palace is a very nice Hotel, expensive though (+200 EUR per night), good location, but not walking distance to any clubs that I am aware of. If you were going there with your wife/girlfriend, I would say, good choice. For mongering I suggest you stay at the Hotel Hesperia Emperatiz www.hesperia.com (Calle Lopez de Hoyos 4). This is a **** Hotel, mostly for business people. The rate per night should be around 160 EUR. Make sure you ask for a quinn/king bed (cama matrimonial) so you don't get a room with those small european beds. This Hotel is in a very nice area (Salamanca), it is walking distance to the following clubs:

- Michel Angelo (30 seconds, same street)
- Don Juan de Marco (1 minute, same street)
- San Jorge (1 minute, same street)
- Pigmalion (1.5 minutes, Calle del Pinar)

My favorite is Pigmalion. Go back in the forum and you will find some reports on these clubs.

On the same street there is a great bar (normal bar) called Dejate Besar, it does not get started until 12:30 (opens at 11:00pm), but great music and you see some times some good looking none working Madrilenas. The crowd is 30+.

Hot (another club) in Plaza Colon is not very far from this Hotel. Walking distance 15/20 minutes. A taxi ride would be 4/5 EUR or you can take the bus for 1 EUR, they go by every 5 minutes on Castellana (1/2 block from Hotel).

Good luck and let us know how Madrid treats you.

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[Dan Ward]

Great info, thanks very much Pistalaso. Will let you know how I get on.

[A Fuegon]

Hello fellow mongers,

I normally post in the other forum, seeing as that is where most of my travel is, therefore my mongering duties.

I have been following this forum for a few weeks. I have been in Spain since Tuesday and only one word describes my experience thus far: "wow". I am flabbergasted. My hotel is near Puerta del Sol, it's the Vincci Centrum. I wanted to stay a few blocks away from Gran Via and the the other busy streets. I have walked up "La Montera" and the Romanian SW's are a dime a dozen. All shapes and sizes. As I just read there seems to not be a fun club nearby, I guess I will have to settle with regular clubs. What are my options other than Plaza Colon? Addresses, including Plaza Colon.

Any quick guidelines as far as the do's and dont's to do at these clubs? Thx a bunch. BTW I am from Puerto Rico and am fluent in English/Spanish and some Portuguese, communicating shouldn't be a problem.

[Out for Flesh]

Any quick guidelines as far as the do's and dont's to do at these clubs? Thx a bunch. BTW I am from Puerto Rico and am fluent in English/Spanish and some Portuguese, communicating shouldn't be a problem.

As for other clubs, there is information on the thread I am too lazy to repeat here. As for the dont's: any thing you do not do in a regular bar, you do not do in a P4P place, except for touching the lady's rear.

As for do's: do negotiate everything beforehand, especially your likes and dislikes. Do no pay attention to any girl who tells you "no girl will do that to you here", because this, most times, is not true.

[A Fuegon]

Thx for the reply. I read back quite a few pages. I was referring to a non P4P though, seeing as it was the weekend.

Literally on a fly by I swooped up this lil cute Romanian spinner off of Montera. She would always be standing pretty far away from the others, she would just stand there and she would have guys coming to her from all angles. After I saw her turn down at least 3 guys, I figured I'd stroll by. W/o stopping, told her let's go for a stroll, she didn't move just stared. I glanced back and she followed. I brought her back to my room, although a bit skeptical, I'd rather take my chances than going to one of them dirty rooms described here. We agreed on 40 on the long stroll back to my room.

I read all about the Romanians and the designated purposes for their holes. I decided to test my luck. At first she was like, I don't suck no one, yadda yadda... Well all she needed was a bit of improvised TLC and she was game for anything. I showered her, literally, just made her feel as if it was all about her. Truth be told, who knows how long she has been out there and how many guys has she had all over her in that time period. I had an extra set of sheets left in my room, knowing damn well the deed I was gonna do today. Laid her down and to her surprise I didn't just hop on. Nah, again improvised and she grinned and let her hair loose. Had her every way possible, didn't have to say a word, just gestured and she obliged. Ended with a CIM/COF and she just smiled when it was all said and done. She did state that the 40 was for 30 mins. Pfffft.. It took more than 10 mins just to get to my room and we spent 45 mins there. All in all, no complaints, got what I wanted and more than what I bargained for.

On another note I am probably gonna hit the P4P across from the Intercontinental towards midweek. I leave Friday and don't wanna pass one of those up. I want me some bunda e buceta gostouza.

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[Out for Flesh]

Thx for the reply. I read back quite a few pages. I was referring to a non P4P though, seeing as it was the weekend.

Oops. My fault. You're of course right. I misinterpreted your message.

One of my favorite spots used to be a disco called "El Sol", in C. Jardines, which ends in Montera. The inside was the less fanciest I've ever seen, but the music and the mood were superb. Don't go there before 1:00 am.

Other than that, all pubs with loud music in Santa Ana / Huertas area are hunting fields.

[A Fuegon]

I think either you or someone else mentioned that club earlier in the thread. Something about the door not labeled. I did pub/cafe hop quite a bit, I either really have bad timing or 99% of the chickies had someone either wrapped around their arm or wrapped around their lips.

I don't know if I was missing something or the girls simply wouldn't even make eye contact.

[Dan Ward]

Flying in tomorrow. Bring it on.

[Flemming7]

Dear fellow mongers

I'm going to Mòstoles - and I wondered whether any of the Madrid experts had any good hints - clubs/brothels - for that town?

Rgds Flemming7

[Travisblue200]

Hello,

I don't often use this site, but I do go clubs and just a couple of things.

1) Spanishdick. I have read your comments about falling in love. I did with one girl here. I have no doubt she liked me a lot and we used to phone each other. The person I spoke to on the phone was quite simply not the same person I'the meet in the club who'the then put on her role. Her job was /is to make money. I understand she comes form a terrible background, but the whole situation really blew my mind, ended in me feeling very affected emotionally, a lot of money down the drain and after 2 years of asking myself the question you asked. Well, I think very difficult to make a girlfriend of someone working. And I really did try.

2) Having learned the hard way, and now treating clubs for fun, I am surprised not to see Club ViveNirvana in any of these reports. It's in northern Madrid, has a massive selection of girls, most very nice looking, rooms were 110 30 mins last time I went, high price things like swimming poools are available for those with money. It's in Marques de Viana, Tetuan.

3) In Gran via area if a club called New Girls (it's towards the Palaza España End) is also well worth going to.

Take care

[Dirty Dawg 33]

From Chamartin it is the C8 line, probably slightly quicker than the ride from Principe Pio on C10. A lot of hotels are around the Nuevos Ministerios are which is also on the same line.


Beijing,

the closest train station to go to FP is Principe Pio. Not much of a difference, actually, maybe 10 minutes faster. Don't know about the difference in the frequency of trains going to FP, but from Principe Pio you may get trains two different trains, while I think that you can only take one from Chamartin. Double check this, though. Of course if Chamartin is close to where you're staying, nothing of the above applies.

70 E / 30 min. is standard rate. You may want to try to bargain it down to 60 or so, but not always. And, since you stayed for a bit more than 30 min. I'd say you were not paying too much. One thing I usually do is to raise a bit the amount (say, 80) and raise the time (say, 45 min.). This usually works.

A Brazilian I've been with lately (sorry, no report yet...) is Beatriz. I think she's new in FP. About 1.65, dark hair and tanned face, not really handsome but attractive and with a solid body. Will do everything but CIM. I have a picture to post but no time to write a real report...

Have fun!

[GandJim]

I am surprised not to see Club ViveNirvana in any of these reports.
This club has been mentionned many times here as Vive Madrid or Vive Nirvana, including by ..... myself. ;)

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=575736&postcount=915

Jim

[Travisblue200]

This club has been mentionned many times here as Vive Madrid or Vive Nirvana, including by ..... myself. ;)

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=575736&postcount=915

JimAbsolutely right.. sorry! I really meant that no-one had referred to Vive Nirvana in the last couple of months or so.. I saw new names and wanted them to know about it. Certainly I know past reports mention this club.. and it was through this site I learnt Vive Nirvana existed!

For new members.. check Gand Jim´s link.repoert 915. it mentions a vast amount of clubs in Madrid, and thank you GandJim.

Take care

[Travisblue200]

Well, I tried Nirvana last night. Lovely Romanian girl.. jobwise when I asked her about anal sex she simply said no , but genuinely wanted to give a nice time.,, named herself Yolanda.. nice person and.. well a beautiful backside!

She is very , very sexy and pretty and I think will work hard to give a good time, as long as ' penises in the ass ' are not on, Her comment!

Basic prices:15 for a copa, 110 for 30 mins, extra sesions proportional, private lounges, swiimming pool / sauna are available at higher rates

[Koolshot737]

Arrived on 21st after a delayed flight. Got a 3 day pass for the metro and suburban trains. In the evening decided to check-out the club in Diana Plus. Its infact in the hotel vicinity. Take the metro Line 1. Get down at Sierra de Guadalupe. Come out of the station and take the 2nd right. Board bus no. 130. Get down at CTM stop, not Merca Madrid. The Diana Plus hotel sign is clearly visible. Lot of Romanions and good number of stunners. Had a short time with a girl named Valentina. She is petite with a lovely face. Did BBBJ and allowed DATY. 50 Euro for 30 min. No hurry. For returning I had a problem. Fortunately I got a taxi which was arranged by the hotel reception.

Next stop Gran Via. Taxi was 18 Euro from CTM. Tried a strip club Chelsea. Did not impress me. After much scouting till 5:00 a.m.narrowed down on a Ghanian. Not pretty but good body. Seemed to me quite young. Agreed upon 100 Euro for 3 hours everything with condom, no anal. The girl did not disappoint me.

TOTAL DAMAGE : 150 Euro for 2 girls

Can anyone tell me, was I right in giving 100 Euro to the Ghana lady.

Regards,
KOOL

[Oli Cool]

Was in Madrid las week-end an try a Romanian at Gran Via. 40€ for 30 minutes.

A girl with a great body probably 1 m 60 for 45kg, long hair blond to red.

Was not bad but too mechanical

Was 2 times in Gangbang party of local de ambiente liberal Triangulo and 100 momentos

In the first great experience with a nice girl 35 year old very nice and who wanted a lot

In the second a little bit more difficult because I don't speak spanish. Was possible to see a lot, to be suck by a nice youg girl (25) but no good contact with other people.

http://www.parejas.com/locales/?locales=madrid
http://www.100momentos.com/00novedades.htm

[Travisblue200]

Arrived on 21st after a delayed flight. Got a 3 day pass for the metro and suburban trains. In the evening decided to check-out the club in Diana Plus. Its infact in the hotel vicinity. Take the metro Line 1. Get down at Sierra de Guadalupe. Come out of the station and take the 2nd right. Board bus no. 130. Get down at CTM stop, not Merca Madrid. The Diana Plus hotel sign is clearly visible. Lot of Romanions and good number of stunners. Had a short time with a girl named Valentina. She is petite with a lovely face. Did BBBJ and allowed DATY. 50 Euro for 30 min. No hurry. For returning I had a problem. Fortunately I got a taxi which was arranged by the hotel reception.

Next stop Gran Via. Taxi was 18 Euro from CTM. Tried a strip club Chelsea. Did not impress me. After much scouting till 5:00 a.m.narrowed down on a Ghanian. Not pretty but good body. Seemed to me quite young. Agreed upon 100 Euro for 3 hours everything with condom, no anal. The girl did not disappoint me.

TOTAL DAMAGE : 150 Euro for 2 girls

Can anyone tell me, was I right in giving 100 Euro to the Ghana lady.

Regards,

KOOLDoeq your quote with the Ghanian lady refer to Chelsea? Or had you moved on? Chelse normally charges 180 for a drink, 300 for a room with one girl. You pulled something special off if you were there!

[Koolshot737]

TB200,
I took this Ghana lady off the street. If you are interested I can give her mobile no. if you pm me.

Regards,
KOOL


Doeq your quote with the Ghanian lady refer to Chelsea? Or had you moved on? Chelse normally charges 180 for a drink, 300 for a room with one girl. You pulled something special off if you were there!

[Koolshot737]

Got up late next day 22nd as night long venture took its toll. In the afternoon I went sight seeing for the 2 tours - Medieval Madrid and Modern Madrid. It costs 15.30 for 1 day and 20 Euro for 2 days, both tours inclusive.

Around 7:30 p.m. started off to Flower Park. As per directions given in ISG, I had no problem reaching Las Matas. As I entered, you guys will not believe it, there were only around 10 girls or so including some Brazilians. Gabriela, a pretty Romanian came and talked with me for some time. I honestly told her that I was interested in a Brazilian as the previous night I had tasted her country woman. This decision I may regret for a long time as I left FP empty handed to catch the last train at 11:30 p.m. Gabriela was indeed beautiful with a lustful body.

Came down to Pigmallion but left immediately as I was not interested in the sulking girls. From there took a taxi to Diana Plus. Cost me around 18 Euro. All the girls recognised me as I was the only Indian there for the 2 consecutive nights. Valentina did not forget me. She came up immediately and we exchanged pleasantries for some time after which I started to hunt. But I promised Valentina that before leaving I would definetely take her up. After some time when I saw nothing that interested me, I did Valentina once again for 50 Euro. Not that the girls were not good but they were kind of mechanical in their talks. Moreoever the time waned. I left at 5:00 a.m.

One last time for the night I pulled over to Gran Via as my appetite had not died down. By luck I came across this extremely sexy Egyptian / Romanian gypsy cross breed named Diana. She was quite beautiful inspite of her crooked nose which she claimed was due to an accident in her childhood. Anyone seen this girl? Agreed upon 150 Euro for 2 hours for 3 times FS in my hotel at metro Bilbao. Everything with condom, anal not included. Once in the hotel we talked for some time. After the customary introductions, I paid her the money. She started with deep kissing with her tongue exploring my mouth. Her cute small nipples on her large mounds were perfectly relishable. Sliding on the bed surprisingly she started doing BBBJ and licked my balls. This went on for the next 20 min. Note the agreement was with condom. But I think our immersion in sex was beyond her control. We fucked as if there was no tomorrow. Bot of us came after nearly 45 min. After 30 min the process was repeated. After this we fell into a deep slumber. The good part, she stayed for more than 4 hours. The sad part we only fucked twice. I felt that I wasted the 150 Euro as the reports here indicate that the maximum would be 40 Euro per shot for the street girls. But this lady was special. A beautiful face, an extremely sexy body and the right attitude. Initially I thought I would be taken for a ride as I am Indian, but she never mistreated me. I am going to miss Diana for a long time.

So guys, 2 days in Madrid had blown up 600 Euro on entertainment - 350 for 6 times sex with 3 girls + other related charges. Some one should advise me if on any occassion I had overpaid any of the girls. If I did that I am sorry, we learn by mistakes. If not don't forget to compliment me.

Next stop Pamplona. If anything interesting I will record it in the forum. If anyone would help me in finding the right contacts and places will appreciate it.

A piece of advice. Allow an extra time of 30 min for every schedule i.e. changing of stations, inquiry etc.

Regards,
KOOL

[Chame7777]

Good Day Mongers,

I am heading to Madrid for the first time and I need some good info regarding outcall to my hotel or any incall locations close to teh Madrid airport. Please send me PVT message if possible.

Thank You

[Yuiop69]

One of the most sensational experiences I ever had anywhere was in the Ambros house. A girl called Lulu (Ai Ying in Chinese). Slight with small breasts, as I like ‘em. Full marks for enthusiasm, and licking and sucking technique. Similar to Nicholaim but not same girl
she started to suck my balls like crazy, licking and eating them. Really incredible. She gave me her scarf to remember her by! Her phone number is 6463 836 83 (but las Orange says busy or not operating).

Now I am going back to Madrid. And the Ambros number is working again. 609 087 794. I can’t figure out the address however very well, "Umbelati" 71 or 101, and the patience and ability of the girls on the phone is limited. Any help in figuring it out welcome. Price is up too. E60 or E100 for 30/60m.

Are these places still working? Any phone numbers (as I have been on too many wild goose chases in the past!)

* Calle Málaga Nº9 1º D - Linda'
* C/ GUTIERRE DE CETINA, 7. 1ºA.
* C/Emilio Ferrari numero 20 , 4 piso letra e.
* Doctor Salgado 45 2º Izquierda
* Francisco Silvela Numero: 16 bajo. metro:manuel becarra.
* Calle de Alcala, 176 1-bajo, closest metro station is manuel becarra Also close to non Chinese 118 Calle de Alcala (1c) in the main part of the Goya area (+close to the metro there 664 720 528) E60 30m (just verified this today)

No answer
* Toledo 23, 2-A 636308098

Following telephone numbers don’t seem to work

* Fuencarral 55 tel 618055288 also C/Hermanos Gomez 1- 1ºA same tel number
* Calle de la Luna, 9 piso 3A 660205602 … close to Plaza Mayo and metro Callao in Gran Via

Other question: I had great success in getting useful online info from newspaper adverts for Gerona. I don’t see any on www.elmundo.es. Anyone know where?

Thanks


Raid against Chinese prostitution mafia The rest is, IMHO, either obvious or already known by everyone here. Not already known, and certainly not known by the journalists. I talked about as much as I could to Lulu on this. Clearly the girls were voluntary, and very money conscious. Lulu said the girls were able to send back between 3000 and 8000 euro a month. (and more the upper end). That each girl had an average of around 10 clients or so a day (effectively they could earn gross close to 20k a month on that basis). All Lulu’s money went back to her family each month, helping support parents and her daughter. She’d been there a year, and didn’t expect to stay more than a year or too more.

The last time I saw her, the police had been around that morning to look at her papers. I guess effectively they were there only semi legally. Like the article says, a front company give them work permits. They were moved on from house after a few months (said Lulu) for permit reasons.

If I thought that the work was overly exploitative, I wouldn’t go there. I was down in Gerona recently to see some Russians, and thought that was shadier. The newspaper article emphasises young ages "even, to accentuate their child-like aspects, the rooms of the brothels were decorated with child-like elements, like dolls and teddies". I never saw that! Nor could any of the girls I saw ever fob themselves off as under 20, far from it in most cases. Journalistic fantasy.

[Harem2007]

Hi guys. Is there is possibility to ve a girl full night for 100 euros.

Thanks

[Privateer]

Hi guys. Is there is possibility to ve a girl full night for 100 euros.

ThanksWell if you find the most desperate one in Madrid maybe you could, but to be honest I'd have to say it's gonna be quite impossible to find a chica in or around Madrid that will accompany you a full night for 100 Euros. 200 Euros (or more) would a be more realistic amount.

Privateer

[Josanam]

Hi guys. Is there is possibility to ve a girl full night for 100 euros.

ThanksHi there,

100E is really not enough but definitely possible starting 175/200e, I negociate twice full night at 200e with black chicas (one from Campo and one from Villaverde).

Others (Romanians) usually start around 300-400.

[Sabor]

Well I spent two weeks in Madrid and have to say I was really impressed. The food and transportation system is off the hook! I went a few times to Montero getting off the metro stop Gran Via and had no problems scoping out the SW's there. I really perfered the Desengano strip which is right around the corner. There were some nice MILFs in that area just have to be on the lookout for some TVs that frequent the area too. The average rate was 20-25 euros plus room fee. It seems to get a lot busier as night progress. I took a trip to the park lake at metro station Lagos and saw some BSWs down the hill. It's easy to get to, as soon as you come out the station go down the hill and stay to your right all the way down. Once at the Y you'll see them to the left. I guess you do the deed in the woods but I just went back to Montero where it felt safer. All in all it was a good short vacation.

Be safe!

[Harem2007]

Jonasam and Privateer,

Thanks a lot for your help.

Maybe I should the budget.

[Cento]

CARETERRA CLUBS AROUND MADRID


PS: I have taken the GPS coordinates of all these clubs. They are available as .kml files for Google Earth or .ov2 files for TomTom in case anybody is interested.

I wonder if you still have these GPS coordinates of Madrid.
Thanks Cento

[Travisblue200]

For reference. I tried once to stay a full night in Flowers Park and was told 600 a night, for room only. Other place I know is Chelsea which is 200 Eper 30 minutes take out.

The prices referred to in other messages may mean the girls out of work time. One thing. If you want to sepnd a night together because your feelings are strong for the girl, I do recommend reading some of the earlier threads. I wish you luck if you are happy, but I don't want to see anyone using this site hurt and taken for al ot of money.

Take care,

Travis

[Zorrox]

Cento,

Be warned Madrid has lots of road tunnels with exits, you will lose the GPS signal and be left with no idea which underground exit to take. Have a fair idea of where your going first.

I went to madrid recently, my favs were HOT, Flower Parks and Factory air all outside the centre and easy parking.

Have Fun

[Sabana]

Hi,

Can anyone give me more information about Michelangelo in Madrid? (Prices etc)

Thank you.

[Pistolaso]

Hi,

Can anyone give me more information about Michelangelo in Madrid? (Prices etc)

Thank you.It is on Calle Lopez de Hoyos, next to the Hotel Emperatriz. So if you are still deciding where to stay, I recommend this Hotel. You can normally find acceptable rates (140/150 EUR per night) if there is no major trade show or event going on in Madrid. If there is, they will ask for EUR 200+. Anyway, back to the point.

There is no entrance fee. When you walk in, they give you a card so you can keep track of your drinks. On the way out, you show the card an pay the bill. Drinks start at 15 EUR. The girls DO make money for drinks, I believe the minimum is 30 EUR. The quality of the girls is OK. Like in any club in Madrid, the ratio looks like this: 40% Brazilian, 20% Rumanian, 20% Mixed Eastern Europe (Russia, Bulgaria, Maldovia, Hungary) and the remaining 20% from Latin America. I estimate that in a good night they have 50+ ladies, there is a stage in the lower level (basement) where they have stripers.It is a little too dark for my taste, so it is kind of hard to see the quality of the ladies

I have been there a half a dozen times in the last 4 years, but I never stayed long because the girls are a little aggressive on approaching you for drinks. It is impossible to go in and just have a drink with out any one bothering you, so sooner or later you either buy some one a drink or leave. I always choose to leave and go down the street (2 minutes walking) to Pigmalion.(for more details on Pigmalion go to post 822 http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=502633&postcount=822)

I don’t think you will be able to get a girl to your hotel for less than 200, at least not a good looking one. The few times I went, I remember they were asking for 200, 250 and some even 300, I passed and left because as I said before, they do try to push drinks.

It is not a bad place, I think it is worth trying it out, you can actually walk in, look around for 1 or 2 minutes with out buying a drink and if you don’t like the scene, just leave, it will cost you nothing. I think the club has a new owner, last time I stopped by (September this year), I was debating if I should walk in. I was on my way to meet some one for dinner, but I wanted to do the 1 minute free tour to check out the scene. A nice guy saw my hesitation and said: "Come in and have a drink on the house". I walked in, ordered a coke (I knew I was not staying) stayed 10 minutes, chated with the guy who told me he was the new manager. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

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[John Costa]

Hello OFF not heard from you for a while.

Myself and a friend are planning 3 nights in Madrid in 2 weeks thurs or fri 8th nov we will be staying the 3 nights in Diana Plus and expect to start and finish the evening off there but will be having a night at Flowers and also a night at Factory Air. 3 nights partying 5pm til 5am then overnights at Diana Plus if possible hope we have fun, sorry that should be sure we will have fun.

If you are around give me a shout and maybe we can meet up then.

Good luck.

JC

[Privateer]

Hello OFF not heard from you for a while.

Myself and a friend are planning 3 nights in Madrid in 2 weeks thurs or fri 8th nov we will be staying the 3 nights in Diana Plus and expect to start and finish the evening off there but will be having a night at Flowers and also a night at Factory Air. 3 nights partying 5pm til 5am then overnights at Diana Plus if possible hope we have fun, sorry that should be sure we will have fun.

If you are around give me a shout and maybe we can meet up then.

Good luck.

JCJC,

Like you I also haven't seen a post from OFF for weeks. Don't know what happened to him: confused: .

I myself will be around Madrid/Valladolid from Tuesday till Saturday morning. FOUR nights of non-stop clubbing, this time without having to worry about work: cool: . Most of the time my club visits very much depend on my work schedule, to what part of Spain my works sends me, and whether I end the day being near a club.

As I've read so much about these clubs on this forum I am also planning to check out the action at Flowers and Factory air; ). I hope there's also a few latinas there amongst the horde of Rumanians/Bulgarians.

Regarding Diana Plus: from what I remember reading on this forum it's a club and hotel all in one building. How much is the hotel cost per night, and is there a possibility to park a car (perhaps at a little extra charge). Although I'm sure I can find it within the Madrid forum, today I'm a but lazy and therefore would like to ask you for an address, and a brief route description to Diana Plus (as long as I know in what part of Madrid it's in), thanks!

Privateer

[Out for Flesh]

John, Privateer,

nothing happened to me. It's only that I am pretty busy with other stuff to find time to indulge myself in a club (so, John, I am afraid I'll have to turn off your invitation this time, at least at the moment being: I am travelling quite a lot, and I am frequently abroad). Actually that is not 100% true: I visited FP last week for a quickie but, for some reason or another, I did not find anyone who suits my taste. I had the impression that the overall quality was not high -- maybe it was the day and/or the time, but it was standard day (a weekday) and a standard time (between 7 and 8 PM). So, John, if you find yourself having difficulties with your schedule to pay a visit to FP, you may consider not going there. If any other member of the forum has a different view or opinion on the current quality in FP, please say so!

Part of this may be because I was paying them a visit exactly he same day they were opening another club in the N-42 (the road to Toledo), and may be they had diverted there some local talent. I do not remember the name of that new club, but I seem to remember it was around Km. 18 (recalling from an ad in FP). As usual, any information on it will be very welcome.

Cheers!

[July Gan]

John, Privateer,



Part of this may be because I was paying them a visit exactly he same day they were opening another club in the N-42 (the road to Toledo), and may be they had diverted there some local talent. I do not remember the name of that new club, but I seem to remember it was around Km. 18 (recalling from an ad in FP). As usual, any information on it will be very welcome.

Cheers!

The new club is called L´Amour. You will find it exactly at exit 19 of the A42 Motorway (km 18,7) towards Toledo. We are talking about a brand new 5/6 floor hotel, with very modern and spacious rooms and a flashy "bar" about twice the size of FP. The club is owned by the owners of FP, Factory Air and Riviera (Barcelona).

The "staff" is currently composed of a selection of the best looking girls from the above clubs who have been offered incentives to move there temporarily or permanently. On the opening day they were giving free drinks and canapés to those with invites (handed out at FP and Factory Air)

Prices from 70/80€ for 30mins plus the usual 5€ for sheets/towels etc.

I have been twice since opening. First "pase", with Amanda, a stunning slim brazilian brunette based at Riviera. BBBJ, Anal (requested by her), GFE, very very good. 150€ p.h

On my second visit I went up with a romanian friend usually based at FP.

According to the girls, work has been good from opening but remain doubts as to will things develop when the dust settles. I intend to pay another visit on wednesday. Well worth the 20 minute taxi ride from Madrid.

[Sabana]

Thank you Pistolaso for your information.

Will let you know when I try it out.

[Josanam]

Hi there,

I've been recently to Madrid and had a look on the Villaverde sector. Very surprise how crowded it is now at night (after 23:00). Mainly (only?) Africans, from Nigeria or Senegal. They stay in clusters of 3/4 almost at every corner of the long street crossing Villaverde south area (Calle Valle de Tobalina). See map.

First good surprise, mainy of them are really nice looking. Second good surprise, they are cheap. Quick blow and fuck in the car start at 20E.

In the early evening I checked a girl (for 20E...) and asked her for a complete night at my hotel. We agreed on 200E for the service, multiball but no anal.

She didn't want to leave the place so early so we made a rdv for later, at 23:00.
I picked her up some place close to Villaverde south entrance and we went to my hotel nearby. No problem to enter the hotel with the girl (who in the meantime was dressed normally).

Making ourself comfortable in the room; discovering body... my God, what a wonderful peace of gazelle! Tiny but very firm tits; splendid firm body, amazing small butt.

Shower together, hand and blow job in the shower. Many DFK.

Back to the bed ultra hard and BJ continued, then first round in-and-out.

Little rest, smoke, drink whatever comes out of the minibar then second round. Big DATY, 69. End of second round.

Shower, down together to the hotel's bar, some drinks then back to the room.
Third session, tender loving care and sleep.

Wake up early (because of work...), new and last session, CIM as a good-bye present.

Big kisses and adios. I gave her a good tip on top of the agreed price.

Girl name: Sonia
Origin: Senegal
Age: 22
Total paid : 200E (agreed) + 60E for top performance

Mobile phone number on request.

Photo attached, seen from back after the afternoon action.

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[John Costa]

OFF nice to see you are still punting and nice to see you are working hard to pay for it, lol.

July Gan thanks for the info I am going to try the new club out when I am there next week.

Privateer the hotel Diana plus is just off the M40 motorway but not sure of the junction but it is sign posted merca madrid. The nightly rate is usually 70e for a double. The beauty is I have stayed there a few times and never spent a night alone, usually someone will sleep with you for cheap or free if you are lucky enough.

I am currently living with a beauty from diana plus in London but I still need the excitement of the "clubs" she is outrageously gorgeous but not the same as in the club and I need my FIX......

Good luck all.

JC

[John Costa]

Paul I got your message you left on my mobile but there was no number and although I have the same phone number I have a different phone due to some thieving scumbag and do not have your number so please call me again or send me a private message.

All is very good at the moment but spain is calling me....hope ypu are there in the next 2 weeks for some fun but I will be in Madrid not Marbella.

JC

[Towntap]

Can anyone give a fellow monger advise as to the best place near Hotel Melia Castilla
Capitan Haya, 43 - 28020 Madrid

I will be in town for only 2 days a and do not speak spainish

any help would be great

Thanks,

Towntap

[Nicholai Hel]

Well, unfortunately I'm no longer in Madrid. Calle De Luna sucked, there were not any pretty girls when I went there though they seem to be doing anything you want. The adresse of new Ambros is as far as I can remember 71. But I'm really not sure about that. Is the Linda working in Calle de Malaga the Linda of Ambros? I don't think so and even if it is so I probably won't be in Madrid for quite a while. But I miss the scene.

Francisco silvela was functioning 3-4 months ago. Juria there was incredible no CIM but great fuck. Great body, ball sucking, great blowjob, nice pussy. There was another less remarkable girl who did kind of everything including beso negro, CIM, spitting and so on and so on.




Now I am going back to Madrid. And the Ambros number is working again. 609 087 794. I can’t figure out the address however very well, "Umbelati" 71 or 101, and the patience and ability of the girls on the phone is limited. Any help in figuring it out welcome. Price is up too. E60 or E100 for 30/60m.

Are these places still working? Any phone numbers (as I have been on too many wild goose chases in the past!)

[Privateer]

OFF nice to see you are still punting and nice to see you are working hard to pay for it, lol.

July Gan thanks for the info I am going to try the new club out when I am there next week.

Privateer the hotel Diana plus is just off the M40 motorway but not sure of the junction but it is sign posted merca madrid. The nightly rate is usually 70e for a double. The beauty is I have stayed there a few times and never spent a night alone, usually someone will sleep with you for cheap or free if you are lucky enough.

I am currently living with a beauty from diana plus in London but I still need the excitement of the "clubs" she is outrageously gorgeous but not the same as in the club and I need my FIX.

Good luck all.

JCJC and all,

Well I've had my fix :cool: (and probably more then was good for me). Got back home yesterday after 4 nights of clubbing. Visited a total of 10 clubs during the 4 days I was is Spain (no I didn't get laid in all of them). Will be writing more about my findings the coming days, for now I've listed them below:


El de la Suerte
Naranja
Stylo
Vaji '89
Jamaica
Palacio de la Rosa
Estark / Diana Plus (which btw. is very easily to find! - thanks JC)
Club L'Armour - JC when you go to Madrid next weekend, I indeed do recommend visiting this one!
Flowers Park (I agree with OFF: the music in this joint is too loud!); and
last but not least Factory Air


That's it for now -- more will follow during the coming days.

Privateer

[Cento]

There is another way of coming back from FP later than 11.32 = last train from los Matas . Night Bus . See attatched foto : If someone uses please report.I am a bit confused. Is the time the starting time from Collado Villalba ? and if so what is the aprox time to stand in the Bus stop.
Wich is very convinient just 20 meters before you reach the bridge to take the train 2 min walk from FP.
So now you can leave the club at 01.00 or 03.00 or even 05.00 if you want.

[Out for Flesh]

There is another way of coming back from FP later than 11.32 = last train from los Matas . Night Bus . See attatched foto : If someone uses please report.I am a bit confused. Is the time the starting time from Collado Villalba ? and if so what is the aprox time to stand in the Bus stop.
Wich is very convinient just 20 meters before you reach the bridge to take the train 2 min walk from FP.
So now you can leave the club at 01.00 or 03.00 or even 05.00 if you want.

Hum, you're very right - I disregarded this option when I quite often recommended using the train. One thing about the train is that, in principle, you should be able to wait inside the station, which is a great advantage compared to waiting outside at 3AM in the Madrid winter (which is not as severe as other cities', but temperatures well below 0 C are to be expected).

The time reported refers to the departure from Collado Villalba, and it says that it takes some 45 minutes to reach Madrid - which for me means that it makes few stops in the middle. I'd say that one should be at the bus stop something like 10 minutes after the bus departure.

[James 006]

can someone please give a report about the peep show situation in madrid.
is it possible to have sex with the girls?

[Hot Notty]

Hey guys,

Excellent work and information,

Guys I am travelling to madrid on this Friday and I need information to have fun in the afternoon frm 1. 00 pm to 5. 00 pm.

Please help me with brothels. Or places with nice latin, russian or brazillian girls.

Waiting for some 1 to respond.

Eagerly,

Thanx

[Hot Notty]

Hi JC great work,

I need information of where to have fun in Madrid. Frm 1pm to 5 pm I am coming there on Friday morning.

Please tell me something soon.

Waiting

[Pistolaso]

Hi JC great work,

I need information of where to have fun in Madrid. Frm 1pm to 5 pm I am coming there on Friday morning.

Please tell me something soon.

WaitingNot much will be going on between 13:00 and 17:00. I think the clubs start opening at 17:00. You will have to arrange an incall session, there is plenty in Madrid, but Spanish is a must. Do you speak Spanish?

One option, not the cheapest, is to go to a place called Sombras. This is an Incall location, very descreet, in a nice neighborhood. They have between 3 and 8 girls, you get to choose one and then to a room. It had a very good reputation 3+ years ago, it was suppose to be the only place that had Spanish girls. I have no idea on the quality. The price is around 150/200 EUR, so it is not cheap. Most taxis know about it, it is near plaza Argentina. I went there once and had a very good experience with a 30 something woman from Sevilla. This was 4 years ago. Good luck!

[Round the World]

Visited Madrid recently after a long absence. Had previously visited Flowers Park, Pigmalion, and Club Vaji/Herradura.

On this visited I tried some different places, which have been recently mentioned. Decided to hit the N1/A1 Clubs first. Drove to the furthest one, Club Mirador, and found a pretty large club filled with a decent selection of mostly EE and some south american girls. Nothing too special, so I finished my 8eur beer and moved on. Also the approach here was very commercial, just "hi, want to go upstairs".

One of the girls I spoke with blond Moldavian told me in passing that Club Lovely had closed. I had noticed that there were no big lighted sign at the exit where Lovely was supposed to be, so I assumed that she was telling the truth.

The last club on the N1, Club Guadalix, looked small and I haven't read anything great about it here so I skipped and went to Club Diana/Estark instead off the M40 exit 19B.

Entering this place was a bit of a shock. Jam packed with girls at 1am. slightly more attractive than Mirador. Lots of EE girls, some south americans. Spoke with one Romanian for a while before sending her away. Found out that she and many other girls rotate between here and Estark 2 in Malaga. she offered 30 minutes for 70eur, but quickly dropped to 50eur. I still declined as there were better looking providers.

Immediately after she left, I was approached by a pretty petite blond, Jasmine from Sao Paolo. I thought, a Brazilian is exactly what I needed. Quite attractive and a seductive approach. Quickly offering that she was open for todas cosas. I had been looking for an anal provider and she fit the bill in looks and services. We agreed in the bar to 100eur for an hour with a 20eur tip if I enjoyed her performance. Upstairs she turned professional and asked for the money upfront. Then she hopped on top nude in 69 position. After a decent but short BBBJ, she hopped on cowgirl, then turned around for doggy, lubing her rear entry. She guided me into her ass smoothly and I enjoyed the ride. Then to my surprise, she pulled me out then reinserted into her pussy. I thought this was a bit unhygenic, but I figured it's her choice. We switched between front door and back door 4 times for the next 20 minutes before I popped. Afterward she turned professional again and was not up for providing the full hour and a second round. A bit disappointing, but I was glad for the unique experience, however, no tip was offered.

Overall, I would return to estark, and if the time were right might even repeat with Jasmine.

Cheers
RtW

[Chame7777]

Heading to town and staying at the Melia Galgos and Miguel Angel Hotel in a few days. Anyone know of any locations near there or of any good incall or outcall service. Please Pvt Mes. If possible. Thank You all.

[Pistolaso]

Heading to town and staying at the Melia Galgos and Miguel Angel Hotel in a few days. Anyone know of any locations near there or of any good incall or outcall service. Please Pvt Mes. If possible. Thank You all.Chame 7777,

Both hotels are walking distance (1/4 mile, 5 min) to Calle Lopez de Hoyos (Michel Angelo, Don Juan de Marco, San Jorge) and Calle del Pinar (Pigmalion).

Here are some comments on these clubs so you can decide where to go:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=502633&postcount=822

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=661004&postcount=1147

[John Costa]

Hi guys after a rather disappointing time trying to arrange a trip to spain I finally managed to book flights and hotel so if anyone would like to hook up for some beers and action next week let me know.

I will be visiting Diana Plus (staying there) and factory air and flowers park...

Grovull get the domestics sorted out my friend and join me. Looks like I am young "" free and single again.................

JC

[El Burro]

John, I should be free that weekend and will aim at coming across to Estark at some point.


Hi guys after a rather disappointing time trying to arrange a trip to spain I finally managed to book flights and hotel so if anyone would like to hook up for some beers and action next week let me know.

I will be visiting Diana Plus (staying there) and factory air and flowers park...

Grovull get the domestics sorted out my friend and join me. Looks like I am young "" free and single again.................

JC

[So Happy]

Hi guys after a rather disappointing time trying to arrange a trip to spain I finally managed to book flights and hotel so if anyone would like to hook up for some beers and action next week let me know.

I will be visiting Diana Plus (staying there) and factory air and flowers park...

Grovull get the domestics sorted out my friend and join me. Looks like I am young "" free and single again.

JCHi John,

Free and single I can understand; not so sure about the young part!

Will do my best - you know that mate. I would cut off my left ball to be with you on your travels, but need to get the timing right as could get right royally fucked in the worst possible non-sexual sense if I play my cards wrong. I will keep in touch.

Play well!

[Chame7777]

Muchas gracias mi armano.


Chame 7777,

Both hotels are walking distance (1/4 mile, 5 min) to Calle Lopez de Hoyos (Michel Angelo, Don Juan de Marco, San Jorge) and Calle del Pinar (Pigmalion).

Here are some comments on these clubs so you can decide where to go:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=502633&postcount=822

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=661004&postcount=1147

[Travisblue200]

I visited again Vive Nirvana on Friday. It's in the north of Madrid, near plaza Castilla. Marques Viana 15, easy metro or taxi reach from the centre.

Many girls work there, prices start from 110 euros. IT's perfect if you like a bigger place, where the girls are not aggressive in their attitude, don't insist on drinks and if you like good music and clean, pleasant rooms included. Well, why are you waiting?

Take care,

Travis

[Coupe66]

Hi guys, I am pretty familiar with the scene on the Spanish Costa's but not really at all for Madrid. Only been there a couple of times in the centre, popped into a couple of small clubs and saw quite a few streetwalkers.

What I was wondering is are there any good websites for independent ladies in Madrid such as hotvalencia.com in Valencia, surely there must be ?
I looked back several pages on this link but do not see any mention of any. Thanks for letting me know !

[Round the World]

Recently visited Vive Madrid and Factory Air for the first time. Vive Madrid is at: Calle del Marques de Viana, 15
28039 Madrid
Easy to reach if you are in the city but parking is a *****. Pretty large bar with a small stage for occasional strip dances. Maybe 70-80 women present at night of average to pretty high quality. Drinks are 10e for men and 40e for women (the girls get 20e out of it). No entry fee. I ordered my drink and set about scanning the room. A handful of pretty, young, thin ones that I like. I talk up one Romanian. Tells me 110e for half an hour. She's hot but I don't like the price and I pass. Next I find another brunette Romanian who speaks English (I find about 50% of Romanians speak English well and Romanians are everywhere in the Madrid clubs). She is very friendly and conversational, no pressure, but she confirms it is 110e or 220e for the hour. Girls keep the 200e and 20e to the club. Knowing that I am just a short drive from FP and FA where rates are much better, I say goodbye and leave the club.

Head for Factory Air off the A2:
Avenida Gumersindo Llorente, 19
28022 Madrid
Maybe I am lame, but even with GPS I had a hard time getting here. It's easy to spot off the freeway, but you need to get off on the early exit or you can get hopelessly lost in a rats nest of construction and deadends. eventually I wound up on the service road that leads to FA, but be careful, there is a small sign that points out the right turn to Factory Air, just past a gas station, if you miss it, you are screwed again.

Once there it wasn't as nice as I expected. Just a big warehouse with a relatively small bar in the middle. Lots of vacant space inside. About 60 girls I think. Varying quality slightly below Vive Madrid. But certainly about 5 doable looking ones. Spoke to a few high pressure ones, Romanian and Venezuelan. Turned them away as there was no chemistry. All quote 70e for an half hour. Since I was not interested I did not negotiate. After an hour, I was about to approach a couple I had my eyes on, but got intercepted by a young Romanian with long curly golden locks. Not the cutest ever, but young nice skin, thin body, Doris. Found she had pleasant conversation and was kinda intrigued. After a decent fun chat, I asked her how much and what did she like to do. She answered everything. So I asked, what will she not do? Only don't cum in my mouth she answered. I liked her answers, so we got to numbers. 70 for half, 130 for an hour. I countered with 100 for an hour and she agreed. Let's go!

In the room she asked to paid up front. I told her I would trust her, and gave her the money (usually a very bad idea, but I had a feeling). And she lived up to it nicely... Seeing her nude, confirmed she had young, nubile breasts. I gave her a nice massage then a rewarding DATY, onto a nice soft BBBJ, then CG, doggy and a doggy anal finish. Consumed the full hour, and twice during there were knocks on the door. As we left there were many girls in the hall, I presume waiting for their room. They shouted hey Shakira (what the girls call her because of her hair), what took you so long, laughing and smiling...

Very nice girl, I would repeat.

[Mamba123]

I am at Madrid near Real-Madrid stadium.

Any good places near by for full service.

I heard that I can get in sauna places.

Any recommendation and prices.

Any recommendation for good and clean local escorts. Brasilian or Spanish.

[James 006]

i try to ask again.
is there still peepshows in madrid?
where?
please give a report.

[Swansea85]

i try to ask again.

is there still peepshows in madrid?

where?

please give a report.have a look at calle desengano which is close to gran via.

[Travisblue200]

The price is always 110 in Vive Madrid for 30 mins, the girls were correct.

Take care

[Magic Sheep]

Hi guys,

First post. Been reading for a while now and having sampled some of the delight's that Barcelona and the Costa Del Sol has to offer, I have decided to take a short trip to Madrid late next month.

After extensive reading I have decided on visiting Diana Plus, Vive Madrid and possibly Factory Air, but my question is. I heard a mention of a new club called Club L'Armour and would be interested in hearing any people's opinion's on this club so I can make up my mind whether it is worth taking a trip out there or not.

Just want to add a final comment on how useful this website has proved to me in my travel's over the last 2 years, and long may it continue. Cheers

[Hwndmd]

I live in Madrid and I usually go to clubs, private scorts apartments, nightclubs, etc...

I recommend:

- Diana Plus/Estark ( 60€ )
- Vive Madrid ( 110€ )
- HOT
- Flowers (70€)
- El conejo de la suerte (50€)
- Air Factory
- Casa de campo
- Montera Street (26€)

Anyway I have car I can take anyone to all of this places, and you can invite me to some drinks or a girl in exchange; )

If you go and back by taxi to some of this places it probably cost more than a girl

If anyone is interested mail me:

[Email address deleted by Admin]

Cheers!

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[Travisblue200]

Hello,

Thanks for your full report. May Iadd some comments.

1) Diana. Sounds nice, but unless in your car, be very careful in that area.

2) Vive Madrid. Represents the best possible in Madrid for me in terms of price v very nice girls and a nice bar to be in.

3) Hot. 160 the last time I went. To me an over-priced over inflated place with its own importance. Nirvana is the same conceprt but less pretentious and cheaper.

4) Flowers. Nice, but look in detail at this site, you'll find many, many reports on it. You decide!

5) El Conejo. Never heard of it? Any further info. Prices, friendliness, location etc.

6)Factory Air. Look back about a year ago on this site, many people were writing then about it.

One other I would recommens. ChelseaII. You can if you want just watch the all night show, but hte girls are lovely. However, the prices are not. 300 starting. So, if you have money. It's worth trying

Hope this of help,

Travis


I live in Madrid and I usually go to clubs, private scorts apartments, nightclubs, etc...

I recommend:

- Diana Plus/Estark ( 60€ )
- Vive Madrid ( 110€ )
- HOT
- Flowers (70€)
- El conejo de la suerte (50€)
- Air Factory
- Casa de campo
- Montera Street (26€)

Anyway I have car I can take anyone to all of this places, and you can invite me to some drinks or a girl in exchange; )

If you go and back by taxi to some of this places it probably cost more than a girl

If anyone is interested mail me:

[Email address deleted by Admin]

Cheers!

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[Out for Flesh]

5) El Conejo. Never heard of it? Any further info. Prices, friendliness, location etc.

The complete name is "El Conejo de la Suerte". You may know that "conejo" is a slang word for pussy.

I think I wrote a couple of reports some time ago. Anyway, it is actually outside the province of Madrid, nearby a town called Ontígola around Km. 54 in the A-4 (the road to Andalucia).

It's a place not as big as Factory but much bigger than Flowers, which looks much more packed than Factory. Lots of Romanians, but some south americans too. Cheaper than clubs closer to Madrid (e.g., 1/2 hour goes by 50€ without effort). it opens at 4 pm and should close around 3 am. The facilities are very good, IMHO: bigger rooms, everything clean, a nice gym (for the girls..)... The audience is more, ahem, countryside-like with some surprises. Last time I was there a troupe of dwarves came in and started to do, well, what any man does in those places. One girl told me they were Brazilians.

Looking back, all my experiences there were very good, so I can recommend it. The only drawback is driving for around 1/2 or a bit more in each direction.

Best,

[Out for Flesh]

Hi guys after a rather disappointing time trying to arrange a trip to spain I finally managed to book flights and hotel so if anyone would like to hook up for some beers and action next week let me know.

I will be visiting Diana Plus (staying there) and factory air and flowers park...


So, how was it?

[Out for Flesh]

It's been a lot since I do not write a report. I guess I am not mongering that much or I am lazy or I do not find the experiences interesting enough. In order to partially redeem my sins towards the community, i thought that sharing some pictures could help. The first three are from Letizia, a nice brazilian I met in El Conejo de la Suerte and, later on, in La Riviera, and the the rest i do not remember their names, but all of them were taken in Flowers Park.

Enjoy!

[Baccus]

If you have good adress near Atocha for "piso" is welcome.

Thanks

[Canonigo]

If you have good adress near Atocha for "piso" is welcome.

Thankswww.eroticamas.com is the web page of several flats and houses located in Madrid, although the appearance of the web page is that of an escorts agency (they do this on purpose). Anyway, these flats and houses are usually clean and honest, and you can find nice girls. Prices are around 150 euros for one hour. You can't trust on the pictures of the web page, because girls change frequently, and they don't update their contents.

Two of the flats are in Atocha Street. These are their address and phones:

C/ Atocha 45 2º B
Teléfono: 913 690 093

C/ Atocha 107 2º E
Teléfono: 91 429 02 57

Enjoy.

[Izquerda]

I heard a mention of a new club called Club L'ArmourNo clue about that club, but at Flower Park tonight I got, with my drink, a coupon for a free drink at L'Armour (at least, I think that was the club it was for). So I'd imagine there's some shared ownership there.

[Henri Dufresne]

I d like to say. To me. Vive Madrid / Nirvana is almost a tourist trap. We mention it here because it is easy to access to the Clubs. Then, when you get in it is pretty impressive. But when you look carefully. It is so so. I think I paid 110 € for 30 minutes. The girl was from brazil. She took time to take cocaine and shower before act. And the time she took cocaine and shower was part of the 30 minutes. It was not professional at all. Then, I had to go very quickly to satisfy madam. She takes herselves very seriously. Somebody knocked at the door to say time was elapsed. In Vive Madrid / Nirvana, there are lots of bad girls who will abuse the fact your the client and you can't say anything cause you are a foreigner.

Vive Madrid / Nirvana is a bad place because they don't select their girls.

At the Diana plus, ok it is far from center, but the service is standard, I mean you ll never likely have a real bad experience. And furthermore it is cheaper even with the taxi included! (80 euros / 30 minutes). And it was really 30 minutes with girls who are not clock watcher.

The restaurant and the hotel from the Diana plus is also very good. Staff is friendly as well. So I think it is a good choice.

[Henio]

...At the Diana plus, ok it is far from center, but the service is standard, I mean you ll never likely have a real bad experience. And furthermore it is cheaper even with the taxi included! (80 euros / 30 minutes). And it was really 30 minutes with girls who are not clock watcher.
If you are paying 80 euros for 30 minutes at Estark/Diana plus, then you are overpaying IMO. You should be able to get 30 minutes for 60 euros easily.

[Londoncitylover]

Hi team,

I'm loathe to ask questions without having added value already but after reading the forum carefully, I can't get a real feel for Stylo. Has anyone got any detail they can add about its location and atmosphere....all I get from a standard web search is about Fiat Stylo's in Madrid. LOL!

I'll be in town in the middle of January, somewhere down that route but can't quite work out where it is :-)

[Out for Flesh]

Hi team,

I'm loathe to ask questions without having added value already but after reading the forum carefully, I can't get a real feel for Stylo. Has anyone got any detail they can add about its location and atmosphere....all I get from a standard web search is about Fiat Stylo's in Madrid. LOL!

I'll be in town in the middle of January, somewhere down that route but can't quite work out where it is :-)

I could try to fish some information for you but, why are you interested in Stylo and how do you know it?

[Londoncitylover]

I could try to fish some information for you but, why are you interested in Stylo and how do you know it?Mainly from the comments in some of the postings here. I'll be staying in a place called Pinchon (I think) and it looked to be the easiest place to get back to (at least it seems from other reports to be more south than most).

[Eliedeparis]

Hi guys,

I will travel next week to Madrid for 3 nights.

Do you know where I can find SW in Madrid? Which place or metro?

What are the average costs?

I will stay at night closed to Santiago Bernabeu Stadium

Thanks

[Hotzo]

Hello Elideparis,

Maybe I don't tell you. I'm also there next week!

No, joking, for street girls just take a Madrid stret map and look:

Having NO car:

- Calle de la Montera (which is south of underground station Grand Via). Calle del Desengaño (which is just north west of same underground station)

Having a car:

- Casa de campo (best spots are south of underground station Lago). Villaverde (which is outside the city in the south)

The price usually is starting from 20 Euros.

For clubs and everything else just read the forum here.

Have fun (me too! ),

Hotzo

[El Burro]

- Casa de campo (best spots are south of underground station Lago). Villaverde (which is outside the city in the south)

Gentlemen, a word of caution. The Casa de Campo scene is virtually dead! Such a shame. I had such fun there when I first moved to Madrid. The park was absolutely heaving with gorgeous totty. Imagine it, park lanes lined with gorgeous young topless cheeky Romanian babes standing shoulder to shoulder waiting for a date:-) It was quite something that this quiet green area of the city became a gridlocked traffic jam at midnight! But for some time local government has been attacking the city's premier outdoor gentleman's pleasure palace. The crackdown started with police checking the status of girls' papers. Next the areas where you could pull off road have been fenced off and cultivated. At that time several of the park roads were restricted to traffic. Finally the police nailed the coffin firmly closed by going after the punters. A hitherto dormant law concerning lewd conduct in public places is now being applied by the Madrid plod. There is real prospect of attracting an embarrassing police caution or fine if you pick up a babe.

I was never much of a visitor to Villaverde however I understand that there is now a lot of police attention there. I heard about a poor fella who got busted there last week.

These days I certainly avoid the outdoor activity and I recommend that those not familiar with the local scene stick to the plethora of indoor entertainment options.

[Hotzo]

Hi there,

El Burro is right - the scene can NOT be compared to that what it was some time ago - even though I have seen (but really rare) eastern european chics last week. Also the chicas in the Montero street are just looking for a quick fuck. Don't expect a girl friend experience or something else. Maybe you have to clean the dirty room in Montera street first before you start the hobby (if possible wear a full body condom)! Visit a club to get the better value for the money.

Greetings to all of you,

Hotzo

[CopaBrasil1]

I'm curious about the format of the place. Do they have showers in the hotel rooms? Do the girls take a shower before the session with you? I would also be curious about the same info at:

Vive Madrid
Factory Air
Diana Plus

Thanks,

Copabrasil1

[John Costa]

I'm curious about the format of the place. Do they have showers in the hotel rooms? Do the girls take a shower before the session with you? I would also be curious about the same info at:

Vive Madrid
Factory Air
Diana Plus

Thanks,

Copabrasil1

All the rooms are hotel rooms and do have showers etc. One of the best things for me is when they wash you, usually on the bidet very sensual and always gets me right in the mood.

Some of the girls will shower with you if you ask but depends on their make up etc and hair (some spend so much time doing it they may not) just ask them in the bar.

This would apply to Flowers, Factory Air & Diana Plus but I have never ventured to Vive Madrid but I would imagine it is exactly the same.

I will back in Madrid in 2 weeks guys do a tour of the usual places for a few nights...if your reading Paul (grovull) email me and maybe we will meet up.

Good luck.

JC

[El Burro]

All the rooms are hotel rooms and do have showers etc. One of the best things for me is when they wash you, usually on the bidet very sensual and always gets me right in the mood.

Some of the girls will shower with you if you ask but depends on their make up etc and hair (some spend so much time doing it they may not) just ask them in the bar.

This would apply to Flowers, Factory Air & Diana Plus but I have never ventured to Vive Madrid but I would imagine it is exactly the same.

I will back in Madrid in 2 weeks guys do a tour of the usual places for a few nights...if your reading Paul (grovull) email me and maybe we will meet up.

Good luck.

JC

Yes, format in Vive Madrid is same with only difference being a significantly higher rate.

[CopaBrasil1]

Took the Metro to Sierra de Guadalupe. Someone else posted that you can take Bus 130 to CTM. I believe that there was a mistake in that post. I did not see 130 but there was a sign for 103 at the bus stop in the traffic circle right outside the Metro station. While waiting for the bus at around 7 PMish we saw an unhired cab so we grabbed it. It only costed us 7 euros and it was a good 10 minute ride-I suspect it would have been about 30 minutes by Bus. The talent was pretty good. Our cab back to La Latina was only 12 euros. It took an hour to get there on Metro and 15 minutes back. The best Talent at Diana Plus was Romanian even though they had some latin americans working.

We went to Vive Madrid later that evening. I did not see or talk to any really hot Braslieras there, all the ones I met were 7's and below. The best talent there was Romanian but maybe it was the time of the evening (3:00 AM). Today we may go to Factory Air to check out the talent as we have heard they feature Brasileras. We were at Flowers Park Thursday night and found their best Talent to be Brasileras. Flowers Park was fantastic.

[Carlojj]

Could anyone give address of El conejo de la suerte.

And how far it is from madrid?

Quality wise copared to Diana?

[Out for Flesh]

Could anyone give address of El conejo de la suerte.

And how far it is from madrid?

Quality wise copared to Diana?

It is some 55 Km from Madrid, near a town named Ontígola, on the N-IV (the road which goes to Córdoba). I guess that public transpaortation (bus/train) is not very frequent.

Regarding quality, I like it better (but I am not a regular at any of these two). Prices are lower, installations very good, bar larger, and there is, in my experience, a better mix of nationalities. You have your good share of Romanians, but also Brazilians, Columbians, and dominicans.

I have to way that two of my best experiences happened there.

[John Costa]

Well had a tough week working so decided at 8pm to go to spain. Just booked a flight at 8:40am and will be in madrid at 12 ish. Anyone fancy a beer send me a message. I am only there 'til monday and will stAy at Diana Plus but will be visiting flowers and factory air also.

JC

[Out for Flesh]

Hi all. I payed a couple of visits to FP this week. The first one ended without me taking any girl upstairs. I just wante to have a "feeling" of how FP was after quite a long time without going there. I spotted two possible targets: a girl from Colombia self-named Laura, with a good rack and a bum to match, not a very pretty face, pale skin, but an attitude which sounded promising. I also saw a girl with a really beatiful body, slim, long dakr hair, smily, but alas I did not have time to go upstairs with any of them.

Researching this forum, I reached to the conclusion that that girl is a Brazilian named Amanda (mentioned elsewhere to have been working in L'Amour for some time, after having been in Riviera). I decided to go there some other day to taste her, as she's been reported as a superb provider.

Sn two days after that I went to FP again and I waited for her to show up. To make the story short, apart from talking to many girls, Amanda wasn't giving me good vibrations - she even denied performing anal, while it's been reported elsewhere that it was asked by her on some occassion.

Colombian Laura was not to be seen anywhere, so after some wandering I hooked up with a tanned, petite girl named Diana, from Rio de Janeiro. The end of the history is that the experience was so and so: too many 'no's in the menu, and not enthusiasm or willingness to satisfy the customer. So that was definitely a not-to-repeat experience.

BTW, has anyone here had any experience with that Colombian Laura? She sometimes wears one of these black velvet necklaces.

Thanks everybody!

[Claudio New]

Hi there,

I will be in Madrid next Tuesday after a long while I have not been mongering, I don't think I want to take a cab all the way to the clubs so I am wondering if some kind fellow will give me a few addresses of private houses which are still valid. I speak Spanish so it's ok, and I will be staying right in the center of MAdrid, near Puerta del Sol. Any suggestion is welcome. Last time I went to the 2 places in Atocha they were closed and the anyway they were never so great. I find that Barcelona has a lot more quality in this area but I would be happy to be proven wrong.

Ciao,

Claudio

[John Costa]

Just sitting my room at Diana Plus having a break after 2 great sessions in Diana Plus. Both romanian but both very pretty very responsive and gave satisfaction. Both 70e for 30 mins stayed with 1 45 mins and the other 1 hour.

The place is full with pretty girls and I am going to check out as many as I can manage, I have had 4 offers to sleep with me in my room very cheaply so we will see.

I will be getting a taxi to Factory Air shortly and will report my findings tomorrow.

JC

[John Costa]

Just had a session in factory air, wasn't a great start as the taxi driver got lost and charged me 30e when it is usually 20e but that is a one of the problems with not speaking enough spanish.

It is a massive difference from diana plus as it is so huge inside, ratio of girls was about 3:1 and some very pretty and some real ugly ones. Wasn't really impressed with the girls I spoke to but thought I may as well do someone as I had a round trip taxi of over 50e, went with a colombian girl dark hair nice face & body but a bit big in the ass. Everything was on offer inc owo a etc she charged me 75e for about 45 mins. She certainly did the right things and was worth the money but I got a taxi straight after back to diana plus which is absolutely full to bursting. Took a bulgarian girl called Ana upstairs for 30 mins 70e again anal etc was available and she had massive tits but a bit droopy when she undid her bra. Not bad overall but I won't be going up again with her.

2:30am here now and just sitting in my room, going to take a shower and then back down to see a romanian girl from earlier tonight and probably end up with her staying with me.

Diana Plus seems way better than Factory Air at the moment. Tomorrow night I will be trying out Flowers Park and report back afterwards.

JC

[Out for Flesh]

Tomorrow night I will be trying out Flowers Park and report back afterwards.

It's great to know that you're having a good time! Just a note: as you may suspect FP will be *really* packed on a saturday night, especially from midnight (or probably a bit later) on. Expect lots of youngsters who may be too noisy a mob for what FP usually is. If you want to save some money, taking a train to go (as you may very probably know) is a very convenient deal. While there are night buses which you can take to go back from FP to Madrid, a taxi is probably the best option at that time.

Have a very good time!

[John Costa]

Thanks buddy for the tips.

To be honest I may well skip Flowers tonight and go tomorrow even though I sunday is quiet it will suit me. I may be too tired for going tonigth and just stay at Diana Plus.

Had a final session with a romanian Daniella who I had earlier in the night. 1& 1/2 hrs for 140e only managed to shoot once but had a relaxing time with her. Went to the bar at 4:45am for a last beer before bed and was acosted by a Venazuelan girl, I told her etc etc i had been up and donw stairs all night and I was fucked. I'll come to your room and sleep with you if you liek she says, how much??? ended up paying her 100e yes 100e she blew me away when we wen tto my room and we had a session until 7am before going to sleep.

It was one hell of a marathon session last night starting out at just 5pm and finishing at 7am. Absloutely fucked empty wallet but a night to remember for a long time. I am off to the club again now for a "straightener" I think or maybe to just start all over again.

JC

[John Costa]

Well I have to say Diana Plus is ful, full, full of pretty girls right now, obviously a few ugly ones but plenty of choice of pretty girls.

The mix is typically 85% romanian but aren't most clubs these days.

Started out talking with the girl I went with twice the night before having a chat at the bar romanian "Daniella" 24 looks 8 personality 10 a very friendly girl, basic service but very good. She asks me if I want to try her and her friend, well not really for me I say as I would rather go up twice with 1 girl than once with 2. Anyway her friend is called over "Christina" hot as f*ck looks 9 body 9 attitude 9 service 9....I just couldn't resist so went with the 2 of them. Had the 2 of them orgasming before they turned their attentions to me, very very good time 70e each but stayed at least 45 mins.

Next up was another Romanian girl "Michelle" 24yrs very pretty & friendly looks 8 attitude 10 service basic owo etc but no kissing or anal. She was very good and very pretty. Followed that by the nightmare of the night, a romanian girl I actually went with the night before "Melissa" looks 7 body 8 bullshit 11/10. I didn't really want to go up with her but she ws very persisitent and ending up offering me her ass, cim, dfk etc etc a very very horny time to be had....NOT. Upstairs paid her 140e for an hour, went down on her made her cum and then onto me, NO ANAL, NO DFK, NO CIM I argued with her a little and just told her to fuck herself and left. 140e 20 mins, about 24 tall 1.75 long black hair.....shit, bullshit...full of it.

Another session with "Monica" venezuelan I had the night before in my room, not the best girl in the club looks wise and quite a bit heavier than I like, pretty face big breasts (& stomach) but great attitude and knows EXACTLY how to make you happy then went down for a drink a bit fucked and "Christina" the hot romanian I had earlier with her friend decide to make me real horny and again I couldn't resist her, went upstairs then onto my room until 8am 3 1/2 hours not much sex really as I was well and truely fucked but had a real nice time 200e for 3 & 1/2 hrs.

Can't believe I did more than the night before but hey you only live once so WTF. I am going to stay in Diana Plus again tonight as I don't think I can be bothered getting train to Flowers and taxi etc round trip is very expensive when you are alone, plus there is definately 2 girls I haven't done in Diana that are going to get it tonight, 1 brasilian girl I spoke to briefly last night but I had just come down the stairs and didn't get the chance later in the night and a real hot romanian girl that is screaming out for JC's attention.

Well I am on reserve energy at the moment but only 1 more night in paradise so I will empty my reserves and enjoy accordingly.

Good luck and get urselves to Diana when in Madrid.

JC

[So Happy]

Heyheyheyah John, seems like you have had an awesome/organsmic time. Keep all the info and memories for me when I come with you on the next trip!!! Cannot wait! SO now its King of the Costas and Madrid, your Excellency.

PS: How about some photo's, if only to my email address? Please.

[John Costa]

Had a meal a laugh with a girl in the afternoon but not up for any action as I had a bit of a hang over. Went into the club at 5:15 and took this girl upstairs for an hour of hot hot action, she was a girl I wnet with each previous night.

Too many repeats but when you get good ones why the hell not. Entertained Michelle again afterwards, she was done the previous night also.

I reallyu wanted a brasilian girl I had seen & talked to on friday but didn't see her so she had either moved on or had a night off. The other girls I had to see were bith romanian and the two HOTTEST looking girls in the club, 1 a blonde from braila romania 21 or 22 really slim and fit, beautiful face 10/10 beautiful blonde hair in a pony tail, she was hot as f*ck. Anyway I thought probably a nightmare with attitude as she seemed to strut around the club knowing how beautiful she was. Called her as she passed me and had a chat, she was very very sweet, g'n't for her then up we went. Definately a 10 in every department looks, attitude service etc etc had 35 mins of great fun 70e and then I jumped up and said we had better go down, no we smoke a little and relax and have a chat she says, well it is upto you but I don't wnat to take your time up for 70e i tell her. No way was she expecting any money she wanted to relax etc and boy I was never going to argue with that. Had the best time with her and knew I was going to have another session later in the night. Went down and had her wrap her arms around me for a little at the bar, I just love when you have the best girl in the club and everyone is watching, hmmmm.

Later had a massage from Daniella a girl I had been with both previous nights and she was very good at it and left me feeling fantastic, just what I needed.

Pretty late in the night and I only want one girl but she is talking to someone, she leaves him and makes her way over towards me but just before she gets there some ugly fucker throws herself on me, no no no no no no no no fuck off....that did the trick after 20 no's. All the time I am talking to this girl my beauty is teasing me just 20 feet away and I want her. As I just get rid of the minger a guy grabs her and just takes her straight up...bastardo....look at my watch and it is 3:10am and the clubs closes at 4am on a sunday so I think that is that for now until next visit. Another romanian girl very very pretty and I have seen her in estarke 92 and los lagos also but never spoke to her before, she is a real hottie and I suppose it is close between the two in looks & body. Her name is Adrianna beautiful curly black her and a real tight fit body. She keeps winking at me and then comes over for a chat, we have exchanged pleasantries before but never ventured upstairs for some reason. It is 3:25 so I think I need a quick 30 mins with her before I leave. Just agree to go up and my other hottie comes down, quick word with her and she did this guy in 15 mins total from downstairs to downstairs so she can go up with me again...bastardo.....I tell her next time. Had a real nice time with Adrianna and she is really fit but I wanted my other hottie, always the way you want what you can't have.

Finished at 4:05am went straight to my room for my bags and into a taxi for the airport, I was in the airport at 4:45 and back in the UK at 8am, just had a really hard day starting work at 10am and just finished at 6:30pm absolutely whacked now, no sleep at all last night and only 4 hours of the previous nights so I am off for a long one now but hey what a weekend I had. Hope I can repeat just the same soon.

The downside beside being extremely tired and with a budget that was doubled while there was some stress sunday night off 3 girls.....What they don't understand about NO I just don't know 1 girl in particular "romanian" but trying to convince me she is british, insisted on giving me advice about how she approach the "clubs" what I should and should not do...this girl is very "experienced" though having been in the clubs 6 months....just pissed me right off kept hanging onto my shoulders kissing me in the face, fuck I was claustrophobic with her, fuck me I felt like killing myself to get away from her and I was not my usual gentleman self with her I was being rude as she deserved it. Pissed her off in the end when I explained to her I had been upstairs and awful lot more than she had over the last 3 nights. Beware this trollop, blonde hair, ponytail, very fit body, uglyish face with lump of some kind on her top lip, she absolutely oozes bullshit and I would imagine she has never had anyone repeat with her in her life.

I am going to return again probably a week on thursday / friday for a weekend and if it is just as good I may not leave Diana Plus once, just stay there. Amazing how different the "same" romanian girls in there are fantastic compared to estarke 92.

[S F H K]

Hello Guys,

Having gathered some great information from John Costa regarding the scene in Malaga I was wondering if you could tell me more about Madrid. I've read through loads of reports about the place but am a little confused about the set up in Diana Plus. I know the place is a Hotel so how do you go about getting the girls to rooms? Do you have to stay there?

So, If you could give me a little bit more info on it I would appreciate it. Also the same information on the other places around town would be good to. I'm staying in the South west area of Madrid so if anyone knows anywhere aroung there it would be a bonus too.

Cheers,

SFHK

[GandJim]

I've read through loads of reports about the place but am a little confused about the set up in Diana Plus. I know the place is a Hotel so how do you go about getting the girls to rooms? Do you have to stay there?
No, you don't have to stay in hotel there. The club is not in the hotel, but next to it. In fact, the club's name is not even Diana Plus, but Whiskeria Estark (the locals call it Stark). It is often referred to as Diana Plus because it is next to this hotel and the hotel name Diana Plus on the top of the building can be seen from a long distance.

Girls have their own rooms in the club (they have several floors with rooms and the girls live there).

South-West of Madrid, there are many clubs around Fuenlabrada, like Eternity, Cotton Club, El Castillo, Club Social La Moraleja, etc... Browse forum or do a search for more details. Not on the same league as Diana Plus, but you can find gems there too.

Jim

[John Costa]

Diana Plus is a hotel owned by the same guys who own estarke 92 in fuengirola amongst many other clubs / hotels. The club part of it is is actually called Whiskeria Estarke as GandJim say but I always refer to it as Diana Plus.

The set up is exactly the same as the other clubs the girls have their rooms you take them to. The best thing for me about this place is that you can stay there as a guest so you are never far away from the action and you can always have a girl for the night when they finish if you want to.

It is in the south of Madrid also so not that far from where you stay hopefully (exit 19b off M40 motorway). The club bar itself is very small probably half the size of 92 and has 130 girls in there so gets very very full.

The only clubs I have been to in Madrid are Diana Plus, Factory Air & Flowers Park so unfortunately no expert in the area, I never hire a car when I go to Madrid just use taxis so never really scout out other clubs.

Are you there now or going soon? I am going back next week on thurs or friday for 3/4 days.

Good luck.

JC

[S F H K]

Thanks for the info JC and GJ,

I certainly enjoyed it at Estark 92 so I guess it's a no-brainer to ask where i'll end up in Madrid. Does it open at 17:00 like the one furngirola?

I'm going to Madrid on the 20th JC so it looks like i'll miss you. maybe you can write a report on your time there next week.

Have a good trip

SFHK

[Out for Flesh]

South-West of Madrid, there are many clubs around Fuenlabrada, like Eternity, Cotton Club, El Castillo, Club Social La Moraleja, etc... Browse forum or do a search for more details. Not on the same league as Diana Plus, but you can find gems there too.

I went to Club Social la Moraleja shortly after they opened. Never returned there. I did not read many (if any) positive comments about it in other fora. I've been a couple of times in Eternity. The setup is quite "cold", so to say, but the girls are reported of high quality. I only went upstairs with one whom I knew beforehand.

[Magic Sheep]

I am aware this has all been posted before, but here is my first experience in Madrid.

First of all, I really liked Madrid, loved the food, people and the general atmosphere. Arrived from the UK at 2pm horny as hell. After much research. First stop C/Atocha 45. 2B. Line up, shown 7 girls, the standard was terrible. I would honestly say none were above a 5/10. Really not worth a visit, unless your 70 and your name's John Merrick.

Out for dinner and a few drinks then onto 'Hot' near Plaza Colon, under Rio Frio restaurant. Now I was fully aware of the 150 euro. 30 minute price tag, so there was going to have to be something special for me to part me with my money. 20 euro to get in, 10 euro drink's, maybe about 30 or 40 girls. I did see a few 7's but nothing worth the 150/30 or 300/1 hour cost.

Stayed 30 mins then onto Vive Nirvana, North Madrid ' Calle de Viana de Marques 15. I prefered this place, again 50 girls, no entry fee, after 30 mins picked ' suprise suprise ' a Romanian Girl. 8 face. 10 body. Good service although she was clearly drugged out her mind.

Next day tourist thing, then at night headed to a place a read about called Club L'Amour Exit 19 A42 towards Toledo, 20 euro taxi from the centre, spectacular place. Huge and modern, but again a massive disappointment, must have got there to early 11pm, about 20 girls looking miserable and about 3 guys wondering what they were doing there. Stayed 10 mins and left sad and upset with an erection.

After this onto Diana Hotel, about 11 euro from Atocha station area in a taxi. Decent line-up 50 plus girls. 90% Romanian, I know I am going to sound like a moaning bastard but what I find with the eastern european girls is that from a distance they look great but as soon as they come across they look half dead. After about 1 hour chatting and looking around a found 1 brazilian girl who was just my style, small, fit and tanned, I much prefer latina's, upstairs, lot's of fun and an absolute tiger in bed.

As I said I liked Madrid as a city, but in my opinion the clubs are over-run with Eastern European girls who are just not my thing. I am going to try one of the FKK clubs in Germany next month before my days as a single man come to an end in the summer.

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[Luisatocaas]

Diana Plus is a hotel owned by the same guys who own estarke 92 in fuengirola amongst many other clubs / hotels. The club part of it is is actually called Whiskeria Estarke as GandJim say but I always refer to it as Diana Plus.

The set up is exactly the same as the other clubs the girls have their rooms you take them to. The best thing for me about this place is that you can stay there as a guest so you are never far away from the action and you can always have a girl for the night when they finish if you want to.

It is in the south of Madrid also so not that far from where you stay hopefully (exit 19b off M40 motorway). The club bar itself is very small probably half the size of 92 and has 130 girls in there so gets very very full.

The only clubs I have been to in Madrid are Diana Plus, Factory Air & Flowers Park so unfortunately no expert in the area, I never hire a car when I go to Madrid just use taxis so never really scout out other clubs.

Are you there now or going soon? I am going back next week on thurs or friday for 3/4 days.

Good luck.

JCWow man, great reports on the clubs of the outskirts of Spain, you really know your way around there. I'm planning a visit myself on April and your reports sure come in handy.

I've never satyed in the hotels close to the clubs but now I see that it's a good strategy. That way I can make use of every single erection I get, ha!

Last time I visited Stark I met a brazilian girl called Divina, she's really hot. She told me she used to work on a club named Hot right in front of Plaza Colon, but after working there she was bouncing from Vive to Stark. I don't know if you met her this time but I really recommend her. For better reference I can tell you she looks a lot like Victoria Beckham.

I hope we can meet sometime in Madrid, that way I can learn a little from your experience.

Respect.

[John Costa]

S F H K the place is just the same really as Estake 92 except a lot less hassle in general, you can also haggle a bit more over the price if you want to. I don't bother as 70e is fine for me, the same girls ask for 100e in 92 they are crazy. Maybe one time we will meet up in Spain and have some fun.

Louisatocaas it would be great to meet up sometime in Spain, glad you like the reports. In general I only can be respected for my views on Diana Plus. I am no expert on Madrid, wish I was. Check out for flesh's reports for probably the best Madrid info he knows most of the clubs there.

Out For Flesh ..... guys O F F is the Madrid expert, read his posts, a wealth of knowledge and information, most of my times in Madrid have happened off the back of his posts. Keep up the good work O F F and maybe one day we will share a beer???

Enjoy your mongering JC

[Travisblue200]

[quote]Out For Flesh. Guys O F F is the Madrid expert, read his posts, a wealth of knowledge and information, most of my times in Madrid have happened off the back of his posts. Keep up the good work O F F and maybe one day we will share a beer?

That is so true! Thanks O F F for all your information, thanks to everyone else too but especially you.

My information is limited to central Madrid as I don't drive when drinking (something I like to do when clubbing). I put the occasional plug for Vive Nirvana, though a couple of reports have seemed less happy recently.

Hot, near Plaza Colón is chic, but I find the girls very shark-like in their attitude and don't trust it.

Chelsea II on Calle Silva is the nicest if you have money. Tastefully done out, an all night show and rooms with jacuzzi. Most girls I see there are great. However, they will expect drinks and rooms start from 300 an hour. !

Going further down there are some very seedy clubs towards Opera, but in Plza Opera I saw a new one open. Cocktails and Girls or something similar. The marketing and the guys outside all looked stylish. Anyone know about it?

Diana/Estark seems to the most often recently mentioned. But I seem to remembera reoprt saying watch safety in the area. Is it recommendable to use Metro/Cercanias.

Thanks for info, and again a special thanks to O F Flesh

[John Costa]

Hi there, I also viewed the report regarding safety in the vicinity of Diana Plus. I have never seen or heard of any trouble there, I suppose like anywhere in the world late at night you have to be on your guard. There is constant security presence right outside the hotel as it is at the entrance to the large transport estate and there is a manned security gate right at the entrance. Not ther eto look after you but there all the same a sa deterrent.

Late at night the only option for getting about is taxi which are generally right outside.

I would certainly take with a pinch of salt the view regarding safety there on what I have seen

JC

[Vandelay9]

Great Site! I have used it many times on my travels and decided its time to give back. This is my first post. I have been living in Madrid for a year now and find FP to be a good place overall. Having traveled extensively throughout Europe, Caribbean, US, Mexico, Eastern Block and the med region FP ranks between 7. 5 and 8 in my book.

I have not been to South America or Thailand which I understand are the Mecca's so my scale may not be perfectly calibrated. For those of us who travel on business and get to enjoy the fruits of that labor my business has not yet taken me to those areas. I certainly hope to check off Thailand soon.

What I like about FP is the atmosphere. Yes the bar area is kind of small but its a comfortable place and you can always walk up to the hotel lobby and have a drink with a girl to escape the smoke and congestion if it’s packed. Most of the girls are friendly and I enjoy practicing my Spanish. I am an american from NY and when I reveal that I usually get a positive reaction although not always. The girls are not 10’s so if that is your thing you probably will not like it. There are mostly 5 and 6’s which I do not touch but there are enough 7 8 9’s with good personalities on busy nights to have a great time. I like it better than the apartments because you can still just hang out like you are in a bar before and after the deal with lots of candy to keep you occupied.

I have had some fantastic experiences at FP with South American girls that are eager to please. Gina is one girl, Columbian, rock hard stomach, bolt ons and a great round ass. She takes pride in her work and has always treated me especially well. She knows I will pay the hour and has often left the company of others as soon as she sees me walk in. I have taken other girls right in front of her so she doesn’t waste time anymore when I arrive. She is small. Maybe 5’ 2 but worth the ride for sure. She always is eager to please and will let me do just about anything I want to her. I am not an anal guy so I don’t know if she is into that or not but everything else is pretty much a go. If you can come three times in an hour she will happily serve you. Once she gets you going it is her mission to finish the job. I have had to stop her on one occasion when I slipped in another girl before her and couldn’t muster up the 4 nut in a night.

There is an asian looking girl there. Can't remember her name but she speaks perfect English. She looks like Lucy Lui a bit and has a very sexy, alluring, sultry look. She has perfect tits, real, big and beautiful. Long legs to the floor and a fantastic ass. She talked a good game and was professional right down to the plastic finger glove she wore to finger my ass. The service was just ok and a bit of a let down as I was really expecting something special. She screamed and yelped as I came which sounded genuine to me and that was probably the highlight of the experience. I saw her again there and she became very clingy and just expected that I would go with her. I made her promise the service would be better and would include more kissing, sucking and fucking which she quickly promised. I believe she would have honored that agreement but I just wasn’t feeling the vibe and blew her off for a stunner from Peru.

This girl is a 9 easy. In my opinion absolutely the hottest girl there. 20 to 22 years old, tall, thin body, perfect tits. She looks like the actress Angie Harmon from law and order. (sorry to those in Europe for the US TV based comparisons but you can google the names I drop to get the idea) I was so in love I have completely forgotten her name. She does not speak one word of English which makes it hard but she was great. She poured me a whisky and asked if I wanted BBBJ to which of course I said yes. She blew me for 10 minutes standing up and then we fell on the bed. I tagged her in everyway possible which she happily complied with. She was not in a hurry and having only paid for 30 minutes we easily spent 45. After I came doing her missionary she laid there for a minute or two and just rubbed her own tits and pussy in soft ecstasy. I will never get the vision out of my head. We went back down to the bar and she introduced me to her Romanian roommate who speaks perfect English. She was friendly with a huge tattoo on her stomach which is a complete turn off for me. She wanted me to take her back upstairs with her roommate and they promised me a show I would not forget. If the Romanian girl was the least bit attractive to me I would have gone but I didn’t want to ruin the experience and figured I would end up banging the Romanian and not enjoying it. That was my last trip to FP and it was in the late fall of 07.

I will add my thoughts in a later post on HOT, Diana, Calle Montera and some other places I have been in Madrid. For the money FP is a fun escape and if you go in with the right expectation you will come out with a big smile on your face. I have never paid a cover.

What I would really like is a quality Thai Massage, Chinese or Japanese massage parlor. There seemed to be a crack down on them just as I arrived and have not heard of any opening recently. Any advice or direction in that area for Madrid would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Vandi your latex salesmen

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[Pete The Swede]

Hi,

I'm in Madrid until Friday and have been here for a couple of days. I have read all your posts about Diana Plus which I find intresting and decided to give it a vist. I searched for Diana Plus in a well known Internet map service and it got a hit that Diana Plus was situated in the park behind Prado Museum, Now, that can't be right. So browsing through different forums I found out that Diana Plus can be found in the outskirts of Madrid. I'm all alone in Madrid without a car and would really need a club within the vincinity of the center of Madrid. My budget for this thrilling experience lays around 100E so taxi trips and so on doesn't make it worth it. Then I stumble upon Viva Madrid whitch regarding to a map is situated close to Tetuan metro station. Can someone confirm that adress? Can you guys also give me tips on how to behave in these clubs since this is my first experience at this places. Is the area around Viva Madrid safe?

Would really appriciate fast respons since tomorrow is my last day here in Madrid. Now I'm going out to eat dinner and hopefully I find someone that I don't have to pay to have sex. But what are the odds for that? Hahaha.

Thanks in advance.

Pete

[Out for Flesh]

[quote]Out For Flesh. Guys O F F is the Madrid expert, read his posts, a wealth of knowledge and information, most of my times in Madrid have happened off the back of his posts. Keep up the good work O F F and maybe one day we will share a beer?

That is so true! Thanks O F F for all your information, thanks to everyone else too but especially you.

What can I say? Thanks to you all for the compliments. But I sincerely do not think I deserve them (at least not 100%). I just try to help because other people here have helped me (and many others) - not only in the Madrid scene, but also in Brussels (ejem...) and Buenos Aires (wow!), especially. So, it is just that I think I should be fair and let others know about what I bump into.

[Out for Flesh]

There is an asian looking girl there. Can't remember her name but she speaks perfect English. She looks like Lucy Lui a bit and has a very sexy, alluring, sultry look. She has perfect tits, real, big and beautiful. Long legs to the floor and a fantastic ass. She talked a good game and was professional right down to the plastic finger glove she wore to finger my ass. The service was just ok and a bit of a let down as I was really expecting something special. She screamed and yelped as I came which sounded genuine to me and that was probably the highlight of the experience. I saw her again there and she became very clingy and just expected that I would go with her. I made her promise the service would be better and would include more kissing, sucking and fucking which she quickly promised. I believe she would have honored that agreement but I just wasn’t feeling the vibe and blew her off for a stunner from Peru.

This girl is a 9 easy. In my opinion absolutely the hottest girl there. 20 to 22 years old, tall, thin body, perfect tits. She looks like the actress Angie Harmon from law and order. (sorry to those in Europe for the US TV based comparisons but you can google the names I drop to get the idea) I was so in love I have completely forgotten her name. She does not speak one word of English which makes it hard but she was great. She poured me a whisky and asked if I wanted BBBJ to which of course I said yes. She blew me for 10 minutes standing up and then we fell on the bed. I tagged her in everyway possible which she happily complied with. She was not in a hurry and having only paid for 30 minutes we easily spent 45. After I came doing her missionary she laid there for a minute or two and just rubbed her own tits and pussy in soft ecstasy. I will never get the vision out of my head. We went back down to the bar and she introduced me to her Romanian roommate who speaks perfect English. She was friendly with a huge tattoo on her stomach which is a complete turn off for me. She wanted me to take her back upstairs with her roommate and they promised me a show I would not forget. If the Romanian girl was the least bit attractive to me I would have gone but I didn’t want to ruin the experience and figured I would end up banging the Romanian and not enjoying it. That was my last trip to FP and it was in the late fall of 07.

I will add my thoughts in a later post on HOT, Diana, Calle Montera and some other places I have been in Madrid. For the money FP is a fun escape and if you go in with the right expectation you will come out with a big smile on your face. I have never paid a cover.

What I would really like is a quality Thai Massage, Chinese or Japanese massage parlor. There seemed to be a crack down on them just as I arrived and have not heard of any opening recently. Any advice or direction in that area for Madrid would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

The girl with Asian "lucy liu" looks (yes, she really looks as if she can start kicking and jumping) calls "Diana" herself. She claims to be from Kazakhastan (!!!) and she speaks good Spanish too. She is around, these days. I never went upstairs with her because, although she's supposedly a switch, I've read contradictory reports about her.

Yes, there was a raid against chinese houses / MPs. I do not know of any good MP in central Madrid, as I do not go downtown often.

[Vandelay9]

Hi,

Now I'm going out to eat dinner and hopefully I find someone that I don't have to pay to have sex. But what are the odds for that? Hahaha.In my experience you need a wing man. I have only had one hit flying solo in Spain. Its very hard as a non native unless you are a famous soccer player or speak perfect spanish. Conversely each time a buddy of mine has come to visit we had had no problem scoring local girls. I am not sure if its a confidence thing or the fact you can play it cool with someone else to talk to so that you are not standing around looking like a stalker but it has been my experience. I wish i could help on the address for you however i dont know it. Happy hunting.

[Vandelay9]

The girl with Asian "lucy liu" looks (yes, she really looks as if she can start kicking and jumping) calls "Diana" herself. She claims to be from Kazakhastan (!!!) and she speaks good Spanish too. She is around, these days. I never went upstairs with her because, although she's supposedly a switch, I've read contradictory reports about her.

Yes, there was a raid against chinese houses / MPs. I do not know of any good MP in central Madrid, as I do not go downtown often.YES thank you it was Diana. I thought she said she was Russian or something but Kazakhastan is exactly right. She has potential and if you lay down the ground rules i think it could be good. When do you think your next trip out to FP will be? I am looking to go next week Wednesday or Thursday possibly.

[Out for Flesh]

In my experience you need a wing man. I have only had one hit flying solo in Spain. Its very hard as a non native unless you are a famous soccer player or speak perfect spanish. Conversely each time a buddy of mine has come to visit we had had no problem scoring local girls. I am not sure if its a confidence thing or the fact you can play it cool with someone else to talk to so that you are not standing around looking like a stalker but it has been my experience. I wish i could help on the address for you however i dont know it. Happy hunting.

I suppose that this is partly because going out alone is not usual in Spain. It looks, lt us say a bit suspicious. It is *very* rare for a girl to go out alone. In fact I only remember, in many years of Madrid night, one girl who was alone, and she clearly had some problem.

But, apart from the language barrier (I thought Spaniards, in particular the younger ones, had improved a bit on that!), IMHO being a foreigner usually gives you extra points.

Happy hunting!

[Travisblue200]

Vive Nirvana is in a safe enough area though personally I think one eye should be kept open in any street in Madrid at any time. The club itself has quite a big security presence.

If you are looking to find a girl without paying in Madrid, it's not impossible but not the easiest place either. There is a bar called Vive Madrid (nothing to do with Vive Nirvana) just off Plaza Santa Ana which has a name as being a'pick-up joint'for singles.

Swingers bars are plenty in Madrid, though I've never been to one and can't tell you how they function.

Thanks to those of you who've commented about FP, I'd seen several reports a bit negative about it of late, but sounds nice again.

And if anyone has been to Chelsea? I thought it good but very expensive. Is it worth it?

[Out for Flesh]

And if anyone has been to Chelsea? I thought it good but very expensive. Is it worth it?

There are two Chelsea clubs (I and II). The one closer to Gran Vía (can't remember if it's I or II) has (or used to have!) a live show, not necessarily about sex. You can surely find pretty girls there but, as you said, at a very high price. Last time I was there I was asked 300€ one our. Too much for me, and I did not feel like starting to bargain. Too much bargaining needed to go down to other club's prices...

[Frogman916]

Greetings

I am considering organizing travel for a group of 10 men from the US and I need a contact in Madrid that speaks fluent Spanish and would be willing to arrange hotels and other details. You would certainly be compensated for your efforts and hopefully this will become an ongoing effort.

If you are interested please reply to [Email address deleted by Admin]

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[Frogman916]

Greetings,

I am considering organizing travel for a group of 10 men from the US and I need a contact in Madrid that speaks fluent Spanish and would be willing to arrange hotels and other details. You would certainly be compensated for your efforts and hopefully this will become an ongoing effort.

If you are interested please reply here and we can exchange instant messenger info.

[Luisatocaas]

YES thank you it was Diana. I thought she said she was Russian or something but Kazakhastan is exactly right. She has potential and if you lay down the ground rules i think it could be good. When do you think your next trip out to FP will be? I am looking to go next week Wednesday or Thursday possibly.Hey Vandelay9:

I read your recent report on Madrid and liked it a lot, thanks for the pointers there. I normally visit clubs to have fun instead of using internet sites or SWs.

I'm travelling to Madrid next week and you mentioned on your last post that have recent experiences on Hot (it's a place I've grown very fond of). I would really appreciate it if you can recommend any of the girls you got to be with last time you were there. I love big tits, so if you have any experiences (big tits or not) it would really mean a lot to me.

Thanks for your help, I hope I can pay the favor back in the future.

Regards,

Luisato.

[John Costa]

Greetings,

I am considering organizing travel for a group of 10 men from the US and I need a contact in Madrid that speaks fluent Spanish and would be willing to arrange hotels and other details. You would certainly be compensated for your efforts and hopefully this will become an ongoing effort.

If you are interested please reply here and we can exchange instant messenger info.


Send me a private meassage and I may be able to help you.

JC

[Stevenh]

Tried to find the address of Diana plus, and took a taxi to Alphonso XII or something, but this was obviously far from the right address. Luckily I had the address of Vive Madrid with me, and took another taxi to go there.

Great place, great selection and everything imaginable present. I settled quickly with a brasilian WG who had long dark hair, cafe complexion and brilliantly white teeth.

I did not loose any time drinking or chatting anybody up, but just went about doing the deed in order to have enough time afterwards for a very late meal.

Rooms downstairs are clean, although in the bathroom I stepped into a puddle of something probably another guest had left in the dark corner and had to wash my foot afterwards.

Shower is huge, and very clean. Beds get a new bedspread for each client. The girl showered after and washed before, was very accomodating and friendly, and had a beautiful body. Not too slim, but no extra padding either.

There are some WGs which are very slim, I assume they use some drug or have other problems.

Te lady did everything to please, fingered me, deep-throated, licked my balls, so I went very pleased and had a fine meal of pata negra and fish afterwards, in a restaurant near the soccer stadium.

Thanks to everybody here who provided valuable information. I am tempted to try out a SW to take to my hotel for LT, but as I have no car I am not sure this will work (neither want to go on public transport, nor am very temptedt to check the scene from a taxi).

[Stevenh]

No, you don't have to stay in hotel there. The club is not in the hotel, but next to it. In fact, the club's name is not even Diana Plus, but Whiskeria Estark (the locals call it Stark). It is often referred to as Diana Plus because it is next to this hotel and the hotel name Diana Plus on the top of the building can be seen from a long distance.Jim

I should have read more closely what you wrote, Jim. That way, I wouldn´t have gone to the Parque Retiro/Alphonso XII in vain. Plus, Google maps is not your friend in this respect. I am adding a map for future reference here.

[Kinky Gonzo]

There are two Chelsea clubs (I and II). The one closer to Gran Vía (can't remember if it's I or II) has (or used to have!) a live show, not necessarily about sex. You can surely find pretty girls there but, as you said, at a very high price. Last time I was there I was asked 300€ one our. Too much for me, and I did not feel like starting to bargain. Too much bargaining needed to go down to other club's prices...Chelsea I is closer to Gran Via and much bigger. Both Chelsea I and II have striptease shows. In Chelsea I there are a few small rooms, girls from Chelsea II can you take to there as well. Cost about 200 euros for an hour. Is quite expensive. You can also take the girls to your hotel/home but you have to take them at least a few hours.

I like Chelse for the show and the girls allow a lot for just a drink. So to get "appetite" it is perfect.

A better place however is at the Castellana close to Plaza Cuzco. There are few bars together. You can see them from plaza Cuzco. But one says Nude girls. And the girls really walk totally nude in that place. It is perfect for a chat (girls allow less then in Chelsea). They have an appartment (about 250 euro an hour) and a private room in the bar but that one is really bad. (Price about 150 an hour).

[Magic Sheep]

I had a 3 day visit to Madrid a few weeks back, and although I really enjoyed the city I thought Vive/Nirvana. Hot and Diana Plus were a little dissapointing in regards to girl quality.

Anyway I missed my flight from the UK to Barcelona about a week ago and the only way I could get there was to take a flight to Madrid and then stay overnight and fly to Barca the next day.

Arrived in Madrid at 11pm and got a taxi out my Hotel ' Gran Via area, dumped my bag's and straight out to Pigmalion ' Calle del pinar 6 ' I think.

Got there at 1am and the place was packed. Now I knew it was going to be expensive but it was the only city centre place I had not tried.

All I can say is ' I wish I had found the place my first trip' I grabbed a beer ' 17euro' and checked out the talent. I could honestly say the I saw about 6 or 7 ' 9/10's. Now in the above places mentioned I never saw anything above a 7/10. I understand that many and on a budget but keep this in mind ' the girls start out at 500euro to your hotel then quickly go to 400euro and then finally settle's at 300euro.

For this I took a stunning Italian girl back to my hotel, she stayed more than 2 hours was amazing in bed, great fun to be with, spoke about 4 languages and very tastefully dressed. All in all 150euro per hour.

I understand I might have been a little lucky with this one, but when I looked around this placed I saw many beautiful girls, I cannot say the same for the other places I visited in Madrid. I am aware that places like Diana Plus have a purpose, and I understand why they get good review's' many girls ' quite good looking and 60 euro for a 30 mins f**k.

But if there is anyone out there looking for real quality and don't might paying ' Pigmalion is definately worth a visit.

Still expensive, but in the UK I could never get a stunner for 150 euro's an hour.

One thing is certain. Spain has many possibilities which I am going to spend a lot of time experiencing.

Enjoy

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[Canonigo]

Chelsea I is closer to Gran Via and much bigger. Both Chelsea I and II have striptease shows. In Chelsea I there are a few small rooms, girls from Chelsea II can you take to there as well. Cost about 200 euros for an hour. Is quite expensive. You can also take the girls to your hotel/home but you have to take them at least a few hours.

(...)


The addresses are:
Chelsea I: Cuesta (slope) de Santo Domingo, 18
Chelsea II: Calle (street) Silva, 6

Both are very close each other, and the nearest underground stations are Santo Domingo, and Callao.

According to these addresses the nearest to Gran Via street is Chelsea II, so which is the big one and which the small one?

Bless you my dear punters.

[Kinky Gonzo]

The addresses are:
Chelsea I: Cuesta (slope) de Santo Domingo, 18
Chelsea II: Calle (street) Silva, 6

Both are very close each other, and the nearest underground stations are Santo Domingo, and Callao.

According to these addresses the nearest to Gran Via street is Chelsea II, so which is the big one and which the small one?

Bless you my dear punters.The one in Calle de Silva is the big one.

[Drogonet]

Greetings

New to the forum.

I am an expat arrived a few months ago in Madrid straight from Bangkok.

As I speak a decent level of Spanish I was able to date a few girls but after having tried to live with one I just gave up.

Thus, I guess that I am going back to butterflying (easier and less headache to go to the clubs)

As I read it seems that the clubs to visit are:

- Hot
- Viva Madrid
- Pigmalion

I am looking for recent reports about these places.

Of course if some board members need some help just PM me

[Hotzo]

Hello Drogonet,

Maybe you should start scrolling back and reading all the famous reports from the colleagues here. I'm sure you will find all the information you are looking for.

From time to time I'm in Madrid also. Maybe we can meet for a beer in a club of your choice

Greetings to you,

Hotzo

[Pistolaso]

Greetings

New to the forum.

I am an expat arrived a few months ago in Madrid straight from Bangkok.

As I speak a decent level of Spanish I was able to date a few girls but after having tried to live with one I just gave up.

Thus, I guess that I am going back to butterflying (easier and less headache to go to the clubs)

As I read it seems that the clubs to visit are:

- Hot
- Viva Madrid
- Pigmalion

I am looking for recent reports about these places.

Of course if some board members need some help just PM meDragonet,

I just came back from a short business trip to Madrid and managed to find the time one night to go to Pigmalion. I have been going to this place 3 or 4 times a year for almost a decade and it has not changed much. It is like going to a fast food restaurant, the taste and quality of the food may not be the best, but it is good enough and you always know what to expect: good service from the bar tenders, generous drinks and always a couple of new girls.

The advice I provided in my 2006 report on how to navigate Pigmalion is still valid.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=502633&postcount=822

One small change since my last report. Most girls are now asking 500 EUR to go back to your hotel for one hour, but you should have no problem in negotiating a fee for 300 EUR (the standard in this place). I heard some girls complaining that business has been down for them the last few months. This is my approach when it comes to the fee:

“Wow, 500. I normally pay 300, I have been coming to this bar for many years. I know some men pay higher fees. I once saw a man agree to pay 800 EUR, he must have been very rich. If I was rich I would do it too, but I am not. Look I am really interested in going out with you to my hotel, but I can only pay you 300 EUR and an extra 15 EUR for the coat fee (5) and your return taxi (10). I feel very uncomfortable negotiating for this kind of stuff, so tell you what. Think about it. I am going to go to the men’s room, I will be back in 3 minutes, when I come back just tell me yes or no. If you decide that 300 is not enough, no hard feelings, I understand.”

Nine out of ten times they agree to the 300. Now, if you have the money, then don’t waste your time and make the girl happy and give her the 500.

The Brazilian girls are taking over the place, the last few times I have been there I think that 60% + of the girls were Brazilian. I love Brazilian girls, but I also travel often to Sao Paulo. I can go to Café Foto and take out the hottest girl back to my hotel for 2+ hours for half the price, specially now with the weak dollar, I just can’t justify taking out a Brazilian girl for 300 EUR. Many of the girls from Café Foto end up in Pigmalion. Some Eastern European girls. I like the Russians. They are hot and passionate like the Brazilians. A few lifers (5+ years) still hanging out in this place. I ran into a girl that I met for the first time in 2002, had not seen her for 3+ years, then again I only go there 3 or 4 times a year. She did not age very well.

Even if 300 EUR is out of your budget, I still suggest you go there for a drink (20 EUR) to check out the scene. As I said in my report, it is one of the very few places where you can go, have a drink, relax and no girl will attack you. Good luck and let us know how you do.

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[Drogonet]

Thanks for the insight about pigmalion.

I am not a cheap charlie but I do not think I am going to spend 500 euros for 1h on one girl. 300 sounds more reasonable.

Question: I browsed all the forum and used the search function but did not find directions for Flores club.

I guess that I am going to use apartments more as I do not like the hassle of a club. (and FP is not for me)

[Drogonet]

Been to Pigmalion.

This is true that the girls quality seems to be high (not many 10 though but it might be because I am really picky)

Although one of my colleagues took one of the girls out I did not because it is only a take out option.

I do not plan to bring any girl to my condo/piso and I do not like the hassle to have to rent an apartment or hotel room to play.

Will pay a visit to hot and viva madrid but I do not expect much from hot.

(from the reports read here they are too expensive for what you get)

[Pistolaso]

Been to Pigmalion.

This is true that the girls quality seems to be high (not many 10 though but it might be because I am really picky)

Although one of my colleagues took one of the girls out I did not because it is only a take out option.

I do not plan to bring any girl to my condo/piso and I do not like the hassle to have to rent an apartment or hotel room to play.

Will pay a visit to hot and viva madrid but I do not expect much from hot.

(from the reports read here they are too expensive for what you get)I agree Drogonet, you don’t see many 10s in Pigmalion. The majority of the girls are in the 7 to 8 range, a few 9s and very hard to find a 10. What I like about the girls in Pigmalion is that they are not very aggressive (enforced by the policy of the bar), they dress sexy but tasteful and the environment of the bar creates the illusion that you are not in a “puticlub”. I like this, because I am what many people call a monger in denial.

In regards to Hot, you will see in my opinion the best looking girls in this place. Much better looking than the Pigmalion girls. The girls in Hot are very aggressive so just be prepared. So good luck in Hot.

I am just curious, the Pigmalion girl your colleague took out, what was her nationality, her fee and more important, was your friend happy?

[The Sporty]

Hi!

Is there anyone who have been tried these two girls?

Bianca or Naty

http://www.amoryplacer.com/index2.html

Try to call, but can not catch

[Chiamsi]

Hi,

If you are in the area of Vestas (you can walk from the Metrostation)

I can recommen Eternitywomen. Avenida de Toledos 27.

You get out of the metro station keep left the street up the hill and to the left is avenida Toledo. The house is after 300m on the right and looks just like a private house from outside.

http://eternitywoman.com/inicio.html

The girls are very nice and I had some pleasant experiences with Claudia
and an even better one with a young girl which is not on the page. 100€ for 40 Minutes is OK.
The service is brilliant.

Chiamsi

[The Sporty]

Thanks Chiamsi,

Eternitywoman might be something what I am looking for, but it´s bit far from city center. If some one know this kind places near by center, please give some addresses and info.

Does anyone know address of Amor y Placer or is it only one place or separate apartments?

I don't speak spanish, so I need to find place where I can just walk in without calling in advance.

[Canonigo]

Thanks Chiamsi,

Eternitywoman might be something what I am looking for, but it´s bit far from city center. If some one know this kind places near by center, please give some addresses and info.

Does anyone know address of Amor y Placer or is it only one place or separate apartments?

I don't speak spanish, so I need to find place where I can just walk in without calling in advance.

eternitywoman.com is exactly at Calle Toreros, 27. It is a villa. It is very close from city centre. You can go very quickly by underground: The nearest stations are: Ventas (lines 2 or 5), Diego de Leon (Lines 4 or 5 or 6), or Manuel Becerra (Lines 2 or 6). You can consult the underground map in metromadrid.es

If you want to go to a place near your hotel/apartment, you can look up at www.eroticamas.com . If you click on "chicas de compania", you will find a huge list of girls. All of them work for the same chain of brothels, but they are located in many differents apartments and villas (chalets). The girls who work in apartments show the exact address along with all their information, but the address of the villas are not shown (they only say "chalet privado"). Anyway in the city centre area there are only apartments. Prices are in general a little higher than eternitywoman.com


amoryplacer.com is a site of advertisements. They are new, so they have only a few girls. All the girls presently say that they are in the "Princesa" zone. So it is likely they are in a building which is plenty of apartments where many girls work. The address is Calle Princesa, 3 Duplicado. It is located near Plaza de Espana, underground Plaza de Espana (lines 3 and 10). If you go there, you have to ask for Plaza de los cubos or for Princesa Cinema, because the building located at Princesa 3 Duplicado is not exactly at Princesa Street, but in a little square (Plaza de los Cubos) placed beside Princesa Street. In this little square there are: a McDonalds, a Burger King, a VIPS restaurant, and Princesa Cinema.

That's all. Enjoy.

[Explorer69]

If you want to go to a place near your hotel/apartment, you can look up at www.eroticamas.com . If you click on "chicas de compania", you will find a huge list of girls. All of them work for the same chain of brothels, but they are located in many differents apartments and villas (chalets).

That's all. Enjoy.This was an interesting website. But what is usually the price of these girls for escort? I could not find any details regarding fees.

[Canonigo]

This was an interesting website. But what is usually the price of these girls for escort? I could not find any details regarding fees.

The normal price is 150 euros for one hour, if you go to the apartment/chalet. I don't know the fee in case you want a service at home/hotel. In some of the apartments you can order a half hour or a 45 min. service. This is likely to be in the two apartments of Calle Estrella, and the other two apartments in Atocha Street. In one or two of the "chalet privado" (villas) prices are higher, because girls are supposed to be high standing models. However in the chalet placed in Ramon y Cajal street number 71 (Telf. 91 416 2019), prices are standard: 150 euros per hour.

You have to phone to know the exact fees. If you go there without phoning previously, you can ask pricing details before girls are introduced to you. If they request you higher fees, tell them you have read in internet that prices are not so high.

Good Luck, sinners!!!

[Drogonet]

Pigmalion:

Colleague was very happy, nationality she said she was a mixed blood Colombian/French but unfortunately she certainly has not French ancestors (French is my native language but I discreetly talked to her in Spanish a language which none of my colleagues speak.)

Fee: I negotiated for him 500 euros for overnight.

I must say that I am quite a bit disappointed by the overall ladies quality in Madrid clubs. Having worked 2 years in Asia probably makes me a bit picky.

(and I am not comparing gogo BG with pigmalion but rather KTV or G clubs ladies).

Will not go to Hot as I hate agressive/pushy ladies no matter their physical attributes.

[Dan Ward]

Hi fellas,

I am in Madrid the first week of May. Have had lots of fun at the clubs behind the Telefonica building and got to know some of the staff in Angelos cocktail bar in Plaza Teatro quite well. Are there any strip or lap dance clubs in Madrid? Somewhere where you can go just to have a look? I know there is a topless bar just off Santa Domingo where anything goes.

[Dan Ward]

Anybody in Madrid 6th or 7th May? Hoping to get a ticket for the Madrid Barcelona game but will be up for a look round after the match.

[Fjord1]

I will be visiting Madrid for the first time from Wednesday through Friday. I don't speak Spanish, but from the reports on Vive Madrid and Diana Plus it sounds like I could do well at either place, but am having trouble with locations. Are both accessable from central Madrid by metro or not too expensive taxi? And if I need to get to Diana Plus by taxi, will I have trouble finding one to get back?

Thanks in advance for any advice and any other suggestions for less than €300 for the language and transportation impaired.

[Fjord1]

I will be visiting Madrid for the first time from Wednesday through Friday. I don't speak Spanish, but from the reports on Vive Madrid and Diana Plus it sounds like I could do well at either place, but am having trouble with locations. Are both accessable from central Madrid by metro or not too expensive taxi? And if I need to get to Diana Plus by taxi, will I have trouble finding one to get back?

Thanks in advance for any advice and any other suggestions for less than €300 for the language and transportation impaired.

[Roger Yahoo]

I have just returned from Madrid and I visited a few places:

Pigmallion "A pickup Bar", in the centre of Madrid, I do not remember the street but the taxi driver who accompanied me there tonight has founded it without problem! No rooms available in this bar. The very pretty hostesses (international ones) ask for an average of 600 Euros to come with you to your hotel! Far too expensive for me. What I did, I waited until the closing time, 3:00, and I tried to negotiate: I offered 250 Euros. No way to go below the 350 Euros. To expensive for me. I went back to my hotel alone. Thank you, I slept well that night!

Hot Show Girls (near Plaza Colón "), also in the center. In this lovely bar there are bedrooms upstairs (150 Euros ½ hours, 300 for 1 hour). Very, very beautiful girls of all nationalities. This Friday evening, no fewer than fifty girls. Beautiful dancers (do not touch.) danced on the floor. I spent a very good time, not cheap, but it was worth it.

Flower Park (quoted in the forum), be careful, situated outside Madrid (North Highway), from the centre take about 20-25 min with taxi and at least cost 35 euros per trip! A lot of South American friendly girls. Spent 70 Euros for ½ hours and 100 Euros per hour, a very good price for what you get!

I had planned to visit the 2 clubs Chelsea I and II but did not have time. Some divergent views. On the forum. If someone could have a look and report it, it would be great!

Avoid the Gran Via and its adjacent streets, it is an another world. .

Enjoy

Roger

[Mike81]

I will be visiting Madrid for the first time from Wednesday through Friday. I don't speak Spanish, but from the reports on Vive Madrid and Diana Plus it sounds like I could do well at either place, but am having trouble with locations. Are both accessable from central Madrid by metro or not too expensive taxi? And if I need to get to Diana Plus by taxi, will I have trouble finding one to get back?

Thanks in advance for any advice and any other suggestions for less than €300 for the language and transportation impaired.I seem to remember another report saying that it was about €15 from the centre to Diana Plus. Last time I was in Madrid I decided to be even more of a cheapskate and took the Metro Line 1 to Villa de Vallecas station and took a taxi from there which was about €4-5. There is a taxi rank right outside the metro station though it's only a small suburban station so you might need to wait a while for a taxi to show up. To get a taxi back just ask the hotel reception (directly opposite the club entrance) to order you one, they were always very helpful when I asked this, though you do pay a little more (may €1-2) for the trip back. One thing I would do is take all of the addresses and station names you want to travel to with you written on a piece of paper. My spanish is very poor and the first time I went I had a hard time getting the taxi drivers to understand where I was trying to go. The second trip with everything written down was much easier.