PDA

View Full Version : Istanbul



Pages : [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24

Admin
05-16-02, 06:00
Select "Add New Message" to post a message.

USArocks
06-16-02, 05:00
I am in the midst of planning a trip to Istanbul within the next few months, but I want to pose this question to people that have been there in the past few months. What is the security situation like? Being right next to Syria and close to Iraq most certainly doesn't make me feel very comfortable travelling to Istanbul, even for only a week or so. I've read the US State Department reports on safety and crime in Istanbul, but the material is a bit watered down. Do you guys feel safe walking around the streets there as Americans? I heard from friends who were there (as US Soldiers, stationed in Turkey about 20 years ago) and at the time they visited, they said the streets smelled of garbage/livestock, and it was simply a filthy place. Is this the way Istanbul is today?

What about you guys who are from Turkey? Now that it seems almost inevitable of a conflict between the US and Iraq, do you feel safe in Turkey?

I am just wondering how safe it is to walk the streets of Istanbul, see the sites, and talk with some of the beautiful women, being an American.

Lastly, I know that in most Eastern European countries, just speaking English and being American makes it very easy to spark up some conversation with the women, and they normally seem rather interested in you. Is this the same situation in Istanbul?

Any info from you guys would be greatly appreciated.

Everyman
06-16-02, 05:33
hey usa: I was in Turkey about 5 years ago and liked it quite a bit. From a street crime perspective I felt as safe there as anywhere in Europe. Your biggest problem will be irritating carpet hawkers. English is widely spoken and Americans are generally liked. Turkey prides itself on being secular, and if you think about it, when is the last time you heard of a Turkish terrorist?

EFrog
06-16-02, 23:52
Answering USAROCKS :
if you don't feel traveling, why do you ?

You should enjoy all your US so safe cities, where there are no gangs, no shootings, no ripp off, ... where everybody looks so friendly and happy to help you ...
Where everybody is speaking foreign language to make you feel comfortable.

Stop thinking that US is great and everywhere else on the earth is just jungle or cheap place.

If you come open minded, willing to adjust to local attitude and feelings, then you are very welcome.
And this is true for any European country.

Turkey is just a great country and stop understating it : it is a high civilized country and has more than your poor 230 years of history...

Sorry to be rude with you, but your comment is here so often expressed by other US guys, it starts to be irritating...

USArocks
06-17-02, 01:04
eFrog:

"If you don't feel like travelling, why do you"

I do feel like travelling, and I am travelling. Hence my post. You might want to actually read an article before you post a reply to it.

Comment all you want about your countries "history", the fact still remains that it is right smack in the middle of a hot zone, which is not a safe area for American citizens. The idea of being within 10 minutes range of a Iraqi missle strike just doesn't sit well with me. However I am dealing with it and will be travelling next month regardless.

Being a local, i'm assuming you'd have some good information on the ladies and the scene in the area, but it sounds like you are just a guy who has anti-American sentiment and feels like bashing, instead of answering some legitimate questions on this board.

I'd appreciate any info from anyone else knowledgable on the topics I posted earlier to reply. I am curious about how women take to American's in Istanbul.

Thanks.

Everyman
06-17-02, 04:49
In eFrog's defence, you did sound awfully uncertain about going to Turkey, usa. I have heard people complain that Paris is filthy and smelly, so I would agree with Frog in that how you approach a country makes a big difference. I enjoyed Turkey as much as Italy, but some people hate Italy, so who can say. The State Department usually errs on the side of caution; if they say its ok, its probably ok. I don't recall much in the way of SW activity, but I was traveling with a woman at the time so i wasn't really looking.

Local Expert
06-17-02, 06:32
guys!!!!
turkey is a european country on the brink of becoming a member of the eu. what your army-friends told u about some parts of istanbul being dirty 30 years ago, might be true, but today's istanbul is a great place and you will have lots of fun. istanbul is certainly one of the most beautiful cities in europe and a "must see" place for everyone who travels over the atlantic.
chickwise you wont be dissapointed, go to the "serenda hotel" and have fun there. no need to be afraid walking on the streets at night, there are no streetgangs or so in here.
this "iraqi missile stuff" is ridiculous, even sadam would not be that stupid to attack turkey, since the turks would flaten iraq for retaliation within seconds.
so, come over and have fun !!!!

Hedonist
06-18-02, 01:36
I agree with the local expert almost in everything he said. Turkey is a lovely country. When I went to Turkey for the first time, I was loaded with all sorts of prejudices and misinformation. To my suprise I found out a beautiful and extremely safe country... I wholeheartedly recommend a visit to Turkey to all fellow Americans, you won't regret it.

OK, this much support for Turkey should be enough.

Local Expert:

I have a question of you about Seranda. I read some of the other messages posted earlier about this place. I am wondering where exactly this disco is. Is it in the hotel? Also what is the local rate for 2 hours and a night with these Russian beauties? Since anybody can read from my face that I'm not a Turk, I don't want to get ripped off. Any information about prices of sex in Istanbul will be appreciated.

Local Expert
06-18-02, 06:57
Here we go: SERANDA HOTEL, Namik Kemal Cad. Manastirli Rifat Sok. No:33, 34300 Aksaray/Istanbul.
I havn' t been there for about 4 months now, but as far as I am concerned, nothing has changed.
You take a cab from ur hotel and get off when u come to Aksaray. There u switch the cab, since the "local" cab drivers know where the place exactly is and don't have to ask around.
The prices are ridiculously low, and even lower than in Ankara. I had a great chick from Belarus for all night and just payed USD 100 for her. Notice: You have to take her upstairs and pay another 30 or 40 million TL for the room at the reception.
You enter the hotel from the main door and just walk downstairs to the disco. Entrance fee is about 10 or 20 million TL (= 6 or 12 USD). One drink and some snacks are included.
Have fun and post wether there have been any changes.

HighRoller
06-19-02, 11:19
Dear local expert, a couple of questions for you to please answer...Thanks in advance......

Me and a few other buddies are headed to Istanbul in early August.......Heard about the Serenda from other sources as well......My question is:

a) Can you take the girls to your own hotel or some other hotel to close the deal other then Serenda itself ???

b) I have heard that passports (both the girl's as well as your own) have to be submitted at the front desk of Serenda when takeing the girl upstairs......Please confirm if so or otherwise ???

c) Do you pay for the girl at the front desk while taking the room or do you pay her when you are done ??? All nite usually means till 5 a.m. rite ??????

d) We are getting a great deal at the Euro Plaza HOtel in Istanbul....How is it location wise and otherwise ????? Can you take girls there ?????

We are also thinking of going to Bodrum to party and hook up with some college chicks for 3-4 days.....How is the scene there ???What are the happening places ??? How much is airfare from Istanbul to Bodrum ??? What is a nice affordable place to stay in Bodrum ???

I would really appreciate your responses to the above questions.......Thanks a million......

Stockbroker
06-20-02, 01:02
hi guys ...
i am back....
ask me anything about istanbul night life....

Euro plaza is a very good hotel located in Taksim Tarlabasi
i think it is a 4 star hotel and close to "hot places".....

About Bodrum..!!!!!
We need another forum to discuss it body...!!
the only thing i could say that 3-4 days never be enough...

Hedonist
06-20-02, 01:39
stock broker:

You can start with giving a detailed guidance to Seranda. I think there are several people out there who will appreciate this very much.

By the way, from the bottom of my heart I want to say:
"Go Turkey! Beat some ass against Senegal!"

Local Expert
06-20-02, 08:10
As I have said b4, I havn’t been to Istanbul for about 4 months now but will be there in mid September again, so my infos might be a bit outdated.
It seems to be all right to take the girls to another hotel for the buis. rather than the Serenda itself. The chick I had in February or so offered me 24h escort for 100 USD, but I couldn’t make it since I had stuff to do in Istanbul.
It is true that you and the girl have to leave their passports at the reception. This is normal in Turkey, since in case there is a police control the hotel can be shut down if the receptionist can not give full information about the guests in the place. In all other hotels in Turkey the receptionists will ask you to fill out a detailed form and keep your passport for some hours for the records. Since Seranda' s purpose is a bit different to other hotels, the receptionist (and you) don’t wanna waste time filling out forms, cause u just stay for one night :-). Don' t worry about the passport issue too much, you will get it back after the buis.
At the front desk you pay your 35 or 40 million TL for the hotel, maybe that is 50 million TL now, due to the inflation (1 USD = 1.5 million TL). Downstairs in the disco you already negotiate the price for the girl and pay her in the room. Make sure to be a gentleman, you won't regret it. Treat her well and you will see the result. Up in the room, ask her wether she is hungry and if, order some fast-food and a Coke for her. The chicks in Seranda usually don't live there but in dirty little pensions around. Since they dont make too much money, they often eat just once a day or so.
The "Euro Plaza" is a nice place in Taksim. I never stayed there, so I can' t tell you anything about the chances of bringing chicks into the room, but I think it is not a problem. Just keep your room key in your pocket when u leave the hotel, so u dont have to go to the reception when u come back with the girl. There has been a lot of info on Taksim in previous postings, so it is not necessary to go into details again. Shortly: Taksim sucks when u r looking for a deal.
Bodrum is a great place for a holiday. I have no info on the scene, but you won' t have to pay for sex. There are thousands of international (mainly British) tourists there during summer and it is the holiday place for the Turkish upper class. There are between 4 and 7 direct flights from Istanbul daily and they cost about 200 USD (return).
Have fun :-)

HighRoller
06-22-02, 13:07
Dear local expert,

I really appreciate you taking out the time to answer my questions..........Thanks again....I shall be in touch........Regards..

Anonymous
06-23-02, 07:50
The last report you have on Istanbul is from June 1998. I was there lately for a period of 2 months and I thought I would update the info.

First of all the GENELEVs are horrendous. These are the government run *****houses, and as others have said, it is a crap shoot, you may go in and find a 20 beauty, or as is usually the case, you will find 35-50 yo hags. Also the hassle of going to one is not worth it. You have to leave your id at the main gate with the police and Gendarme (there to keep a handle o the young soldiers on leave), get frisked, walk thru the metal detector, and then when you are in hassled by the old madams, food vendors, and the “girls” themselves. The main one in Istanbul is in Karakoy, in down town, near all the tourist attraction. It is basically a dead end street that has the “gate” on the open side. NOT WORTH IT! Also, there was a mention of finding girls in the Aksaray/Laleli area, at the small “pubs” and “bars”. Yes there are girls there, they are not as abundant as in 96-99 due to a sharp drop in trade between Istanbul and the Russian republics, and they are not as expensive as the girls I mention below. These girls are the ones not pretty enough to strip, to be “acceptable” in the hotel lobbies, and maybe not bold enough to work at some of the upper end “discos”. They are OK, the good thing is if all you want is a quickie, you can go in to one of these bars, open around 10 pm, pick/bargain ($40 for 1-2 hrs) and take her out of there. Usually these girls will not go back to your place if it for a fast screw, they will want to stay in the area and will take you to one of the cheap rent by the hour places in and around Aksaray and Laleli. On big drawback is that the immigration police raids these places often, and if you are there, you will be taken in, questioned, and after 3 hours released. Some quickie eh.

Other options are the “strip” clubs, and the major hotel lobbies. In the first case, the girls are gorgeous 8-10, and always from Eastern Europe. The clubs are swanky, and in the nice area of town. BUT, just because she strips, doesn’t mean she will join you. These girls work for the club, and make a salary plus “commission” on drinks. Their main goal is to keep you there, drinking as long as possible, and then maybe if she likes you, she may agree to go back to your place. From those that have succeeded in getting a girl out, the fee seems to be US $ 100 for all night, which since you are leaving at 3-4 am means until 9-10 am that morning. If you want to spend $200 in drinks and tips to get laid, that’s up to you. In the second case, trolling the major hotel lobbies, it is a 50/50 proposition. If you can get one of the bellhops to point out the working girls to you, you will at least reduce the risk of propositioning the wrong lady. Again the girls are Eastern European, 19 to 28, well dressed, and pretty god looking. The fee for these girls is also $100, but if you can hook up with them early, all night means ALL night. Most of theses girls speak passable English, and you can carry on a conversation of sorts with them.

The solution I found for myself was the following. First, if I was in the mood to drink, dance and party, I would go to a place called Demirkoy Hotel. It is in the ATAKOY marina, near the Galleria shopping center and the Holiday inn. The place is basically a very old tourist vacation resort that caters almost 80% to working girls and their customers. For some reason they NEVER get raided, and I was told that they have never had any problems with bar fights etc, so generally safe. There is a nightclub there that opens around 10 pm, but doesn’t get interesting until midnight. The place is not all that imagine an old fashioned disco from the 80s and that is what it looks like. What makes the place interesting is that it is FULL of working girls. By this I men that on a slow night, here will be at least 20 girls there, and from Thursday to Saturday, there will be 40-50 girls there. The nice thing is this, they do not allow Turks in, if not the place would have 150 men in there, the majority of men in there are in Istanbul on business, and every time I went there, the men to women ratio was about 5 girls per man. The girls here are a very mixed bunch, most from Ukraine, Russia, and Romania, with a mix of Moroccan (they get a lot of Arabs here), Turks, and Iranian. The girls range from 5-8 in looks, and they all speak at least 3 languages including English. The nice thing about this place is you can sit at a table and order a bottle, ½ a bottle, or only drinks, and take in the sights. If you don’t like what you see just pay and leave. There is a price list, so you know what you will pay; the most I ever paid was $70 for 3 people. They will try to place a huge tray of fruit on it, and try to get you to order separate drinks for the girls, but the girls usually will drink with you, and if you don’t want the fruits etc, tell them, and they will not bother you again. Once you are settled in, just take your time to look for what you like, and when you find her, either get up and invite her to your table, or get a waiter to call her over. After that, it is up to you, if you want to stay and dance, or if you want to leave. Be careful, do not let the girls approach you, and sit themselves down, you will have a hard time getting them to leave. Usually the girls that come to the table are those that are desperate, haven’t a customer in a while and need money, or they are the classical pushy type *****s that are all mouth and no action. Also, make sure before you leave the place to agree on the price with the girl, again it should not be more than $100 for the night, and if you see her again, it WILL come down. Do not leve your wallet or cash in the room when you are taking a shower. Do not give the girl your tel# unless you really enjoyed it and ant to see her again, outside of this situation. Do not agree to go to her place, or take her friend along, always your place, or stay in one of the rooms at that hotel. Always use protection; the girls usually do not have any condoms, so you bring yours along (unless you enjoy playing Russian roulette with your life). These are pretty common sense things, but I thought to mention them because in our LUST, we sometimes forget the basics. I have always had good experiences at this place, by that I mean I never felt at risk, or uncomfortable, but I have picked girls that were not really pros, or good in bed. I would suggest going for the Russian and the Romanian girls, as they seem to be more uninhibited, and willing to please. I find the Moroccan and the Arab girls very prudish, and have a tendency to beg for more money after you have done the deed and generally pestering. There is a $10 entry fee, and if you leave with a girl, she will expect you to pay her $3 wardrobe fee. Tip well (door $2/maitre d $5 / and waiter $2) and when you come back you will be remembered and taken care of.

The other way I connected with working girls was through an unofficial escort service run by a Russian madam, I found this one but from what I was told there are many more like her. You call in the afternoon, tell her what you want-exactly-and she will call you back to tell you who she has available, and describe her to you. She usually has girls that have just arrived to Turkey, and as such, most of them do not speak English well. The girls she has are all 8/9 and I had one or two 10s. Once you agree on the time place etc, the girl will show up and that’s that. The fees are again $100. This is a great way to go if you don’t want to deal with leaving your hotel, and brave Istanbul traffic. All the girls from this service were MORE than adequate, and did everything I desired. Note that she may ask you for taxi money when she is leaving. Getting them into the hotel is no problem, they are used to this, and do not bother, so do not fall for any security person or doorman trying to muscle you for a tip.

That is all for now. I will be going to Antalya on the Med coast in July/August, and from what I have been told, it is even better down there. I will report back after my trip.

Local Expert
06-24-02, 07:32
To "High-Roller": was a pleasure, have a nice trip
To "By email": Do you have the number of the russian madame you mentioned? Sound like a good deal.

Hedonist
06-24-02, 15:48
By Email:

Can you please post the phone # of that Russian madame or email it to my private email address (expatgo@hotmail.com)?

Thanks a lot!

Hedonist
06-24-02, 19:42
Local Expert and Stockbroker:

Can you please also let us know when things start get going in the disco of Seranda Hotel? Is 9pm too early? Is after midnight too late? What time do you usually go there?

Thanks!

Stockbroker
06-24-02, 23:33
9 pm is too early.....
Night life in begins at 10 pm in istanbul,weekends may be later
Girls come and go,so you better wait for a while to make your choice.
Check the traffic!!!!!keep your eyes on entrance....

mario
06-26-02, 14:41
Hi, guys!
I will be traveling to Istanbul for 5 days and I was wondering how can I find some profesional models (mentioned by Osman in November 2001). I don't know any "important" people in Istanbul, but I am willing to pay up to 1000$ for the premium category fuck.

Banana Joe
06-27-02, 13:27
Ok, here I am, live from Istanbul!
Oh boy, what a disappointment :-/

The locals are, generally speaking ... well ... butt ugly, excuding maybe some exotic cuties, but not enougth to drive the average over the minimum required to catch my interest.

Compared with the bulgarian, the romanians or the ukrainan those girls take a 6-0 6-0 6-0.

''Natasha'' action is, as previously stated, in the Aksaray area.
But the quality is well below average, for the russian standards, and the prices are not so cheap: 100 USD.
The area is very ugly and cops are everywhere making raids.
Haven't tried the Seranda, but the other nightclubs are the worst ripoffs I have ever seen in Europe (40 USD for a coke and a small beer).

So we have:

- inflated prices;
- unsafe areas;
- ripoffs;
- below average locals;
- below average ''natasha''
- apartment and escort scene difficult to find;


IMHO avoid Istanbul if you're in the mood for some *****mongering. Stick with the Czech Rep. or with the Romania instead.

Hedonist
06-27-02, 15:24
Guys,

I have another question:

I've been to Istanbul, and I know that like in Western Europa people mostly tend to dress to impress unlike Americans. When you are hunting for a Russian girl in the Aksaray area, say at Seranda, what would be the appropriate dress code not to be spotted as a foreigner right away. How do you dress when you go whoring in this area? Thanks in advance!

Banana Joe
06-27-02, 21:52
You'll be spotted as a tourist in less than a minute I guess.
Or maybe your ancestors were from turkey and you have not changed your clothes a washed your face in the last two weeks.
I'm not saying that all man in turkey are so dirt, but in the Aksaray (not exactly Rodeo Drive boys ...) area this is the average man you spot.

Aksaray is much more like Calcutta than Beverly Hills, I hope you have already understood ...

USArocks
06-28-02, 01:40
Bannana Joe,

Where were the places that you say are "unsafe"? I am also planning on travelling to Istanbul soon. I will be touring many places in Europe this summer, Romania, Czech Republic, and Turkey.

How much do you need to spend per day on food?

Do you think this is a nice city to visit if you are meeting a Ukrainian girl and wish to spend some time with her? (She is from Ukraine, I am from USA, and this is the cheapest place for us to meet and very easy for us both to get visa's)

I will not be out "hunting", I already have caught my fish..lol

Any places or clubs you suggest going to?

Did you stay in a major hotel? I am told that working girls are often found in the hotels of Istanbul.

Any help anyone can offer would be great. Thanks!

Local Expert
06-28-02, 07:13
It is true that Aksaray is a fairly bad place, but comparing it to Calcutta is definitely unfair. If you look at the ***** areas in other Meditteranian cities like Naples, on Crete or in Lisbon at the port area, these are even worse than Aksaray.
Of course you have cops in the area and there are several rip-off bars as well. The cops do sometimes raid the bars/discos but they won't touch you (no matter wether you are a tourist or a Turk), they want to catch illegals. Just stay seated, show ur ID and wait for the cops to leave (after 10 minutes or so).
But !!! Aksaray is not an unsafe area !!! You will not get beaten up there, they won't steal your money or rob you. I live in Turkey for 7 years now and have allways been treated with respect.
I have been to one of these rip-offs last year and was seriously dissapointed, but the Seranda is suprisingly different.

Regarding dress code, just shave, wear a jeans and a shirt. You will be spotted as a tourist anyway and if you wear the typical "poor people' s Haute Coiture" which is a an old suit, no tie, open shirt and white socks, you won't be camouflaged at all, they will just call you an idiot.

I have never had the pleasure to pop over to Romania, Bulgaria or the Czech Republic, but some of my Turkish friends do travel to Romania for sex and prefer it to Istanbul. Now, since this page is about Turkey, I can only give you my expirience about Istanbul and Ankara.

If you want to impress your girlfriend with a cute and very clean hotel in a restored old building in Istanbul, take one of the hotels you find under this link: http://www.nisanyan.net/harita.asp?no=is2

If you wanna party with your girl in Istanbul, go to places like Ortaköy, Levet or Taksim (Istiklal Cad.).

USArocks
06-28-02, 13:15
Does anyone have any information about the Escort scene in Istanbul? Other than finding an escort agency in Ukraine and having a girl sent over to you, do you know of any good escort agencies in Istanbul?

From what it sounds like, from people like Bannana Joe, is the women on the streets...pro's and non-pro's...are nothing special, including the Russian/Ukrainian pro's.

If anyone has any info on escorts in Istanbul, and prices, it would be appreciated.

hasan
06-28-02, 13:22
Well, Mario... the answer is "not easily". I am not feeling comfortable about posting information publicly, but if you are really interested in tracking down and contacting profesional models e-mail me privately at : hasan_zani@yahoo.com

Banana Joe
06-29-02, 13:58
Agree local expert ... Aksaray is not Calcutta, but I think you'll agree that is not a beautiful area or with a great scenery and neither a relaxing place where you can enjoy a romantic dinner or some sightseeing with your girlfriend. I have found Istanbul safe, but not relaxing. It's different.
You'll agree that is different to feel safe because cops are everywhere or because streets are "naturally" safe, like in Copenhagen.

-----------

> How much do you need to spend per day on food?

It's very difficult to spend more than 20-30$.
But usually I stick with small restaurants or with the food sold on the streets, so I can easily eat (and sometimes splurge) with 10$ a day on average.


> Do you think this is a nice city to visit if you are meeting a
> Ukrainian girl and wish to spend some time with her? (She is
> from Ukraine, I am from USA, and this is the cheapest place for > us to meet and very easy for us both to get visa's)

Yes.
I'm not a great fun of Istanbul, but Sultanahmet (during the day) and Taksim (during the night) areas are definitely worth the look.


> Did you stay in a major hotel? I am told that working girls are
> often found in the hotels of Istanbul.

I was in a major hotel in Aksaray and later in a small one in Sultanahmet. Never spotted girls in the lobby.
But maybe you can find them in the Aksaray area.


Banana Joe

CBGBConnisur
06-30-02, 01:49
BananaBoy, I don't know what crack you smoke but the Turkish women I met in Germany can be quite stunning, in fact they are often dropdead gorgeous. Germany has a large Turkish community, if you want to meet a hot Turkish woman, you have to visit Germany, there is no ifs ands or buts about it. Visit an FKK club and you will see what I mean, some of them are attractive at worst and can be dropdead gorgeous at best. I would agree with you that in Turkey itself it is difficult for a guy to find a good looking woman. Then again the place is a poor religous fundamentalist country so what would you expect??? If you go to Greece, there are plenty of beauties but the local ladies seem to have something against prostitution.

Banana Joe
06-30-02, 14:43
Restated:

"The locals are, generally speaking ... well ... butt ugly"

"excuding maybe some exotic cuties"

"but not enougth to drive the average over the minimum required to catch my interest"

You know then meaning of "AVERAGE"?
Ever been in Romania before?
Maybe you're into fat girls, big butts, black teeth (if any) and so on.
I, for myself, stick with long legs, small ankles, round butts and white teeths.

A couple of stunners can't drive higher the average ... even in USA you can find Pamela Anderson and Cindy Crawford lookalike, but the average is so damn fat and ugly.
And thousands of american dudes *****mongering around the world is the proof.

You'll never find turkish girls hooking in Romania or Russia, but plenty of the opposite situations ... you wonder why?
Maybe is something related with the economics laws of offer and demand.

CBGBConnisur
06-30-02, 16:46
No actually I agree with you most women "IN" Turkey are ugly, but if you go to Germany its a different place. Yeah I 100 percent agree with you about the "average", in America you have a small percent of women who are top of the line but the average American woman is not too pretty, in fact often fat and disgusting, the same thing goes for Britain and Ireland. But elsewhere in Europe I have found plenty of hotties, almost every country in Western Europe has plenty of attractive women, so has Eastern Europe as well. Generally I like Western European ladies more. What you mean about Romanians and Bulgarians? Is the average lady there prettY?

Banana Joe
06-30-02, 18:34
> Is the average lady there pretty?

Yeah!
And romanians are prettier then bulgarians, IMHO.
If you're into big boobs and ok legs, go for Romania or Hunghary.
If you're into super legs, go for Russia or Ukraine.

malaka
06-30-02, 19:36
hello

went to seranda hotel last week and it still surprises me..... very nice....
local expert and stockbroker will confirm this observation

USArocks
07-01-02, 00:47
Would someone who has frequented the Serenada Hotel in the past few months mind giving us a detailed description of the place, what to expect when you walk in, prices, and what the ladies are like?

I think that is a question the majority of the people who visit the Istanbul forum are looking for, or are curious about :)

Thanks!

Stockbroker
07-02-02, 01:03
Banana Joe........

i have been living in istanbul for 35 years and
you are just telling lies....

i dont believe you.............!!!!!!!!!!
and i am curious about your purpose........

Banana Joe
07-02-02, 06:24
No lies stockbroker.
I have slept in Hotel Beer in Aksaray and in the Hotel Park in Sultanahmet (Cankurtaran, Utangac Sok. 26) ... why do you think I'm a liar?
Only because someone asked me 40$ for a small coke in club in Aksaray?
Only because, excluding some cuties in the receptions (Hotel Beer for example), the turkish girls were butt ugly?
Only because I have seen many police raids happen in Aksaray under my eyes?
Hey broker, where's the problem?
I was in Istanbul for fun, and I have found that in other countries is much more easier to chase girls ... you are in Istanbul for business, so you don't have the choice, you have to think that everything is fine and try to feel good in Istanbul.
I can choose where to chase girls, and Istanbul is not suited for me.
Sorry.

malaka
07-02-02, 19:21
Come on guys
do not fight. everybody has different choises. But I would say I am quite happy with the sex scene in Istanbul. I think banana joe hasnt been to budapest bucarest or even central europas amsterdam or berlin yet. I have seen too many police raids.......
Any bars similar to those in Laleli&Aksaray in Europa are great big rip-offs. The thing is always to know where to go. Thats it.. Stop fighting and back to the forum for more info about istanbul... come on

Leo_Leone
07-03-02, 17:28
To "By E-mail" :

Can you please send the phone number of the Russian madame to my e-mail address (leo_leone@hotmail.com) ?..

Thanks...

yaks87
07-03-02, 18:09
to by e-mail,
would you please send me the phone number of the russian mama as well. yaks87@hotmail.com

USArocks
07-04-02, 04:02
can someone please explain the escort scene in Istanbul? I would like to hear more about that Russian madame myself (mastablue@hotmail.com)

Also, can someone PLEASE make some detailed posts about Serenada Hotel?

Thanks

Cachondito
07-04-02, 20:17
Banana Joe:

FUCK OFF!! You're not invited to Istanbul and we don't need useless tourists like you so you're free to get the fuck away if you don't like it. Stick your dirty money up your ass and do not come to Istanbul again. Fuck you and fuck your attitude. It's not our fault that nobody gives as good blowjobs as your mother does. So don't get too complexed about it. If you don't fancy Turkish girls then go fuck your overweight sister instead. Go to France and fuck stinky girls with hairy armpits or go to Romania and get AIDS. You haven't seen the upper class Turkish girls so just shut the fuck up loser. Or maybe the upper class ones don't want to fuck you even for money because you're too damn ugly and stinky. It's true that Turkish girls are nasty bitches and they're only after money, but they're NOT ugly. Though they're just like other women, they want to fuck humans only. So you have absolutely no chance. Do not ever approach Turkey and stick your dick elsewhere you moron.

Banana Joe
07-05-02, 10:24
Poor Cachondito, are you feeling frustrated 'cause I can choose many flavours, many different pussies and instead you have to stick your dick in a shithole? Oh poor turkish faggot.

Are you wondering why EVERY eastern european girl outside of turkey refuse to marry or date a turkish man? Maybe is something related with your fucking rude attitude toward women.
But you don't have to trust me: check by yourself in one of the many dating (marriage) agency websites based in russia or ukraine, for example. You'll find that almost all the girls clearly states that they're looking for a man from every country, turkey and saudi arabia excluded.

I have already said that turkish women are not pretty ON A-V-E-R-A-G-E, moron, I have already said that you can find some cuties.
You know the difference between the concepts of "average girl" and "upper class girl"?

Maybe French girls have hairy armpits, never checked, but I'm pretty sure that turkish girls have well developed moustaches, maybe because they want to mirror their mothers, moron.

Local Expert
07-05-02, 10:30
oh my god...... !!!!
guys, could u pls. stop insulting each other or carry on with this juvenile crap somewhere else. i dont give a shit what your personal opinion on turkish, romanian or even martian girls is, i want to have more practicle infos on istanbul and the other cities of this country.
let us not [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) this site with turning it into a personal "war scene".
thank you !!

Banana Joe
07-05-02, 10:41
I agree local expert.
But someone have not yet understood the meaning of "average", I guess.
But all in all, I have to agree with you.
So this is my last post in this area.

USArocks
07-05-02, 13:03
yes, stop the nonsense. do I need to beg you guys like Local Expert and all you other guys who know the area for some info on Serenada? Or the escort scene?

I'm going there at the end of the month and really would think detailed info would be valueable :)

Thanks

AlexGood
07-07-02, 00:10
I have been to the Disco in Hotel Seranda, a previous post by someone else was reasonably accurate, but you must take your ORIGINAL passport with you, without which they will not let you in, plenty of pretty girls dancing there, they looked available, also, you will not be able to sit and admire them for more than 15 minutes without buying yourself a drink. Don't take more than $100 with you, and be alert.

USArocks
07-10-02, 13:27
Does anyone here have any info/pics/phone numbers on Independent escorts in Istanbul that would come to your hotel?

I'll be staying in the 5 star Platan hotel and I am looking for a independent escort for a few hours, maybe even the full night. If anyone could send me some info at mastablue@hotmail.com i'd definitely appreciate it. Preferably a "Natasha" type girl, but any beautiful woman will be great.

I don't like the idea of handing anyone my passport, so even though I am tempted, I don't think I will be going to Serenada. In the daily papers are there any numbers for indepdendent escorts?

Info on this would be great if anyone has some.

Thanks!

USArocks
07-16-02, 20:16
Hey guys whats up with the Istanbul forum? It was really active a few weeks ago now its dead :) And right before my trip to Istanbul. LOL

Can anyone recommend some good areas to find some Russian/Ukrainian women who speak at least some English?

Thanks

CBGBConnisur
07-16-02, 20:29
French girls don't have hairy armpits. I shagged quite a few French women and didn't see any armpit hair, though they do have hairy pussies.

BoneMachine
07-16-02, 22:59
Yeah.. not every French chick has hairy armpits but everyone of them that I have done has had a great big black forest of a wiki bush down there. They also seem a bit ripe compared to Mexican, Thai, Korean, Chinese, Filipino and Spanish chicks but about the same as Italians, Greeks and Puerto Ricans. They are also not as bad as local Turkish or Egyptian "business" women.These, of course, are generalizations based upon my own experience banging here, there and everywhere.

Cossack
07-17-02, 15:49
To everyone who is asking for the famous madame's tel# (that was my report via email), I will get back to you by email, we don't want to ruin a good thing for ourselves do we!!!

Next, the scene down in Antalya, yes I know this is or Istanbul, but I just HAVE to tell you guys. If you like Russian babes, this is the place to be in the summer. I seems that all the girls are just 92 and 10s! I stayed in the city at the Dedeman Hotel, and from day one just had a total pigfest. First off the prices are the same, $100 for the night. Next, the girls here are all independant workers, and are here to enjoy the sun, the beach, and our dollars. I found that the whole thing is so different from the regular hunting we have to go thru. Your on the beach, meet a girl, talk, agree to meet at your hotel, go out to dinner, then a club (Club 29 rocks), go back to your hotel, fuck, have breakfast in the morning, then start all over again! I did just that for 45 days!

Suggestions:
1) do not stay at a 5 star hotel, they tried to screw me by saying they would charge for the extra "guest". There are Too many really good 3star hotels along the beach (going towards KEMER) that are absolutely no prob, and cost 1/4 of the price.

2)Enjoy yourself and make t a whole night affair, from dinner all the way thru to breakfst. I did the club pickup thing, it was good, but not as good as spending a few hours with the girl b4 getting into her panties.

3)Be aware that there are MANY regular Russian tourists in Antalya, so do not proposition a girl without making sure that she does not have Ian in tow!

4)All these girls are there to have fun, enjoy themselves, and make a little cash along the way, don't be an ass. Treat them nice, and believe me they will do the same.

5)If you liked her that much, ask her for her cell #, and meet up with her again, I did and got it for free (mid afternoon siesta sex....the best!)

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Anonymous
07-17-02, 18:59
The last report you have on Istanbul is from June 1998. I was there lately for a period of 2 months and I thought I would update the info. First of all the GENELEVs are horrendous. These are the government run *****houses, and as others have said, it is a crap shoot, you may go in and find a 20 beauty, or as is usually the case, you will find 35-50 yo hags. Also the hassle of going to one is not worth it. You have to leave your id at the main gate with the police and Gendarme (there to keep a handle o the young soldiers on leave), get frisked, walk thru the metal detector, and then when you are in hassled by the old madams, food vendors, and the “girls” themselves. The main one in Istanbul is in Karakoy, in down town, near all the tourist attraction. It is basically a dead end street that has the “gate” on the open side. NOT WORTH IT! Also, there was a mention of finding girls in the Aksaray/Laleli area, at the small “pubs” and “bars”. Yes there are girls there, they are not as abundant as in 96-99 due to a sharp drop in trade between Istanbul and the Russian republics, and they are not as expensive as the girls I mention below. These girls are the ones not pretty enough to strip, to be “acceptable” in the hotel lobbies, and maybe not bold enough to work at some of the upper end “discos”. They are OK, the good thing is if all you want is a quickie, you can go in to one of these bars, open around 10 pm, pick/bargain ($40 for 1-2 hrs) and take her out of there. Usually these girls will not go back to your place if it for a fast screw, they will want to stay in the area and will take you to one of the cheap rent by the hour places in and around Aksaray and Laleli. On big drawback is that the immigration police raids these places often, and if you are there, you will be taken in, questioned, and after 3 hours released. Some quickie eh.

Other options are the “strip” clubs, and the major hotel lobbies. In the first case, the girls are gorgeous 8-10, and always from Eastern Europe. The clubs are swanky, and in the nice area of town. BUT, just because she strips, doesn’t mean she will join you. These girls work for the club, and make a salary plus “commission” on drinks. Their main goal is to keep you there, drinking as long as possible, and then maybe if she likes you, she may agree to go back to your place. From those that have succeeded in getting a girl out, the fee seems to be US $ 100 for all night, which since you are leaving at 3-4 am means until 9-10 am that morning. If you want to spend $200 in drinks and tips to get laid, that’s up to you. In the second case, trolling the major hotel lobbies, it is a 50/50 proposition. If you can get one of the bellhops to point out the working girls to you, you will at least reduce the risk of propositioning the wrong lady. Again the girls are Eastern European, 19 to 28, well dressed, and pretty god looking. The fee for these girls is also $100, but if you can hook up with them early, all night means ALL night. Most of theses girls speak passable English, and you can carry on a conversation of sorts with them.

The solution I found for myself was the following. First, if I was in the mood to drink, dance and party, I would go to a place called Demirkoy Hotel. It is in the ATAKOY marina, near the Galleria shopping center and the Holiday inn. The place is basically a very old tourist vacation resort that caters almost 80% to working girls and their customers. For some reason they NEVER get raided, and I was told that they have never had any problems with bar fights etc, so generally safe. There is a nightclub there that opens around 10 pm, but doesn’t get interesting until midnight. The place is not all that imagine an old fashioned disco from the 80s and that is what it looks like. What makes the place interesting is that it is FULL of working girls. By this I men that on a slow night, here will be at least 20 girls there, and from Thursday to Saturday, there will be 40-50 girls there. The nice thing is this, they do not allow Turks in, if not the place would have 150 men in there, the majority of men in there are in Istanbul on business, and every time I went there, the men to women ratio was about 5 girls per man. The girls here are a very mixed bunch, most from Ukraine, Russia, and Romania, with a mix of Moroccan (they get a lot of Arabs here), Turks, and Iranian. The girls range from 5-8 in looks, and they all speak at least 3 languages including English. The nice thing about this place is you can sit at a table and order a bottle, ½ a bottle, or only drinks, and take in the sights. If you don’t like what you see just pay and leave. There is a price list, so you know what you will pay; the most I ever paid was $70 for 3 people. They will try to place a huge tray of fruit on it, and try to get you to order separate drinks for the girls, but the girls usually will drink with you, and if you don’t want the fruits etc, tell them, and they will not bother you again. Once you are settled in, just take your time to look for what you like, and when you find her, either get up and invite her to your table, or get a waiter to call her over. After that, it is up to you, if you want to stay and dance, or if you want to leave. Be careful, do not let the girls approach you, and sit themselves down, you will have a hard time getting them to leave. Usually the girls that come to the table are those that are desperate, haven’t a customer in a while and need money, or they are the classical pushy type *****s that are all mouth and no action. Also, make sure before you leave the place to agree on the price with the girl, again it should not be more than $100 for the night, and if you see her again, it WILL come down. Do not leve your wallet or cash in the room when you are taking a shower. Do not give the girl your tel# unless you really enjoyed it and ant to see her again, outside of this situation. Do not agree to go to her place, or take her friend along, always your place, or stay in one of the rooms at that hotel. Always use protection; the girls usually do not have any condoms, so you bring yours along (unless you enjoy playing Russian roulette with your life). These are pretty common sense things, but I thought to mention them because in our LUST, we sometimes forget the basics. I have always had good experiences at this place, by that I mean I never felt at risk, or uncomfortable, but I have picked girls that were not really pros, or good in bed. I would suggest going for the Russian and the Romanian girls, as they seem to be more uninhibited, and willing to please. I find the Moroccan and the Arab girls very prudish, and have a tendency to beg for more money after you have done the deed and generally pestering. There is a $10 entry fee, and if you leave with a girl, she will expect you to pay her $3 wardrobe fee. Tip well (door $2/maitre d $5 / and waiter $2) and when you come back you will be remembered and taken care of.

The other way I connected with working girls was through an unofficial escort service run by a Russian madam, I found this one but from what I was told there are many more like her. You call in the afternoon, tell her what you want-exactly-and she will call you back to tell you who she has available, and describe her to you. She usually has girls that have just arrived to Turkey, and as such, most of them do not speak English well. The girls she has are all 8/9 and I had one or two 10s. Once you agree on the time place etc, the girl will show up and that’s that. The fees are again $100. This is a great way to go if you don’t want to deal with leaving your hotel, and brave Istanbul traffic. All the girls from this service were MORE than adequate, and did everything I desired. Note that she may ask you for taxi money when she is leaving. Getting them into the hotel is no problem, they are used to this, and do not bother, so do not fall for any security person or doorman trying to muscle you for a tip. If you want the # for the madam, send me an e-mail, and I will send it to you.

That is all for now. I will be going to Antalya on the Med coast in July/August, and from what I have been told, it is even better down there. I will report back after my trip

Cossack

Tony70
07-17-02, 23:32
Dear Cossack,

Your report was very imformative as I plan to visit Istambul this summer. Please can you tell me a contact telephone number or address for the Russian Madam you mentioned. As you said you were satisified with the girl you ordered. Many Thanks.

Ruf66
07-18-02, 08:26
Hi Cossack,

Great info man. Will be down that way in September - would love the email address.

Thanks man,

ruf_66@yahoo.com

mario
07-18-02, 14:44
Never, never, never fall in love with the prostitute, ever!
After seeing her once, resist the temptation to see her again, even if she looks like angel and fucks like she-devil.

dellboy
07-19-02, 14:52
Mario,
could you please tell me how can I meet that she-devil. I am willing to take my chances.
dellboyy2002@yahoo.com

yaks87
07-19-02, 17:26
HÝ cossack,
Thanks for the good info's.Would you please send me the contact
number of the madam.thanks
e-mail:yaks87@yahoo.com

Cossack
07-22-02, 10:34
"Never, never, never fall in love with the prostitute, ever!
After seeing her once, resist the temptation to see her again, even if she looks like angel and fucks like she-devil."


Wow Mario, where did that come from????

The trick to this problem is to always, ALWAYS remeber that SHE is on the job. Not neccessarily while you are doing the deed, but after, when that post sex glow sets in. Unless you are willing to supprt her indefinitely, she WILL be fucking someone else very soon. See her again, especially if "fucks like a she-devil", be her friend, enjoy the time, but LOVE??? I don't know. If that happens, then you need to look deep into yourself and start aking alot of questions.

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

kitetester
07-24-02, 11:29
Yo Cossack! Would definitely appreciate the tel# of the Russian Madame. Also, any info on how to approach her as a first time caller would be helpful. (kitetester@yahoo.com)

apgc
07-25-02, 16:34
Same here, would appreciate her phone number. Thanks for the great info!

apgc@hotmail.com

Marco366
07-28-02, 17:29
Cossack,
I plan on visiting Istanbul for a few days!
Would definitely appreciate the tel# of the Russian Madame (to take the edge of!!).
(MarcoWSG366@hotmail.com)

USArocks
08-01-02, 00:03
I just returned from a 7 day stay in Istanbul, and I would like to tell you guys that it was GREAT. However, for those who are wishing to read this post to get info. on the escort/pro scene, this will not be that type of review.

Here is a little bit about me. I am very young (22), and American. I speak nothing except English and some Spanish. I went to Istanbul to meet a girl I have been corresponding with via the Internet, who is from Ukraine. We both had the time of our life together, but I must tell you some things I observed. Even with this girl by my side the entire stay in Istanbul (Beyazit area, near the fish restaurants and about 300 yards from the Marmara) when the Russian/Ukrainian women who heard me speaking with my girlfriend in English approached me asking me how I am, where I am from, and flirting VERY much. They did this right in front of her! I must admit we laughed about these many encounters later (and I must tell you I am by no means a very attractive guy, I just dress well, am very tall, young and speak English), but we were shocked at how forward some of these Russian women were.

I also must comment on a previous post by banana joe about the looks of Turkish women. The young Turkish women who were students that I saw in the street near the fish restaurants (a GREAT experience you must go to in Turkey, I recommend Cemal Restaurant) were EXTREMELY good looking. Yes there were many poor Turkish women on the street, and near the water of the Marmara, but there are poor people who do not look nice in every country, not just Turkey. I must also apologize to those whom I had been corresponding on this board with prior to me visiting Istanbul. Although the majority of the people looked at me like I was an alien (being 200cm tall and American), every single Turkish person I spoke with treated me with great respect, and was very nice and helpful if I had a problem. I also treated them with great respect as well though, I might add.

About the fish markets, and shopping in many of the clothing stores with my girlfriend (this is where many of the Russian women on holiday approached me, in clothing stores). I have never seen so many beautiful women in my entire life. I must admit, I have never been anywhere but the USA, Canada and Mexico, but these women were wonderful. I could have sat in the Grand Baazar for hours just watching the good looking women walk by. I am glad that I did not need to because I had one of these wonderful women on my arm :)

I must tell all of my fellow Americans who fear visiting Turkey because it is so close to the middle east to rest your fears, it is a wonderful place, with VERY nice people. The food is great, but I do not recommend Raki! It tastes very similar to "Jaegermeister"; like black licorice candy.

I must also STRONGLY recommend to change your US dollars to Turkish Lira if you are going to go shopping, or dining out. I am sure US dollars are what pro's would want for their services, but if you flash US Dollars on the street to any vendor, you are going to get SCREWED. Also, try and learn some BASIC Russian. Every street vendor/shop owner/restaurant manager I met knew basic to moderate English, fluent Turkish, and moderate to fluent Russian. If you ask them how much something is in Russian, you will get such a better price than if you spoke to them in English. You can almost see their eyes light up when you speak to a vendor in English.

I must say that my trip to Istanbul showed me a whole new world, and also introduced me to the most beautiful women (Russian/Ukrainian) I have ever seen in my entire life. Just remember not to drink the water unless it is bottled! It also has gained me a fiance. :) I have been in contact with this girl for over a year and this is the first time we met. I proposed to her with a band of Turkish men playing great Russian music, and eating a good meal in a restaurant in the Beyazit area.

I will be going back very soon with my fiance I am sure. If anyone has any questions (non-pro related), you can email me at mastablue@hotmail.com.


-USAROCKS

gabnal
08-01-02, 00:43
Cossack,
my experiance in istanbul tells me your info of the istanbul scene is right on the money.
i go their evry 6 weeks, and i stay in an Atakoy **** hotel usualy, i am prety sure you know which one.
My question to you is regarding the demirkoy Hotel, is this the one that is right on the highway to the seaside of the street, between atakoy and yeshilkoy??? it is built like a spread out motel type, has gates that one has to go trough before you get to the reception?
I went their looking for a disco a couple of weeks ago with a female companion, and i was told it was a simple restaurant. and that it was empty at twelve.
please e mail me some more info about the demirkoy hotel and its club, and the regarding the madam you mentioned, does she work out of Aksaray??
if you need any info on exclissive Atacoy hign end escorts, may be i can help you with that.

gabnal@hotmail.com

Banana Joe
08-01-02, 14:25
usarocks,
i'm not against turkish people or turkish girls in particular.
Yes, you can find some good looking girls in turkey, but on average you have to agree with me that ukrainan/russian girls are much better - I restate - ON AVERAGE.

And I have to agree that turks are very kind and helpful people, excluding those trying to sell you something :-)

I'm italian, and many yankee think that italian girls are very good looking. I think they're average.
But from an american standpoint I can understand that a turkish girl could be rated good looking and an italian one very good looking ... after all, you have to deal with big fat femminist asses in your country :-)
It's like eating pizza: an average pizza in italy is something an american in drooling for. But on the other side, an average SUV for you is a BIG car for me :-)
Ratings for everything changes changing the country.

But a good looking ukrainan girl is gorgeous babe no matter where you come from! And they're damn hot in the sack!



Happy hunting,
Banana Joe

BunnyHopper
08-01-02, 20:41
Cossack

Hi Cossack, I will be in Istanbul for a weekend latter this month.

Would be great if you could let me have the telephone number of the Russian Madame.

If anybody alse has similiar phone numbers, i would appreciate that too.



Many thanks in advance.

please email wsg_1000@yahoo.co.uk

CELLO
08-03-02, 14:42
Hi Cossack
Seems to be necessary to pull a number - would also like to get that Russian Madam's tel.nr as I am frequently in Istanbul ;)
Or if anybody else already got email with the number - appreciate if you can forward the number to me.
My email : rene444@swirve.com

Have followed that discussion about which one is nicer - Ukrainian or Turkish. Guys, everything in between 6-10 is OK, it is also the quality of the action not only the looks right?
Let's stay focused on that!

Enjoy it!

Cossack
08-05-02, 10:32
Hey All! Sorry been out of town for a bit, and just logged in to see what was going on. I see a lot of people on the board want the lady’s #. I am kind of worried that some of you good folks might be piglets in a punters skin, and that I might be killing my golden egg laying goose. I propose that we conduct a poll, and if majority you fellows on the board agree, then I will take the time to get that # to ALL of you.

usarocks…you now see that istanbulrocks too. I was out of town when you were here, but I am glad you had a good time!

gabnal…there are a few hotels there, you want the one that is on the exit off the seacoast road when you go into the Galleria shopping center. When you are exiting, look directly to your right, you will see a fountain w/2 dolphins in it, and a little further ahead, you will see the gates to the place. If you take a cab, they all know where it is. I was there on Saturday, and boy it was rockin’!!! And no the lady does not work out of Aksaray, but most of her girls live in Atakoy and surroundings. I’ll email you soon for that info.

CELLO… too right, if she looks good, and is great in bed, who cares where she’s from.

Mario…where are you buddy, I hope she didn’t break your heart that bad that you have stopped being one of us.

And last but not least, if so many of you dudes are coming to Istanbul so regularly, how come no one is posting anything. Let us know, the good, the bad, and the uglies.

That’s all for now

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

Cossack
08-08-02, 13:31
DEAD BOARD WARNING!!!

What up fellas....I hope you are all too busy mongering!

gabnal
08-08-02, 19:05
Hi Cossak
You Prtomissed me an e mail with the number of that madam. i wonder if i will ever get it.
i will be leaving for istanbul on the 26th of August, and i will be staying in the tower hotel across from the galleria. as you explained it, the Demirkoy should be a walking distance from their. i will try it. and post my findings.
I had a sick idea the other day, and i think you would appreciate it.
The muslims of this world have a pilgrimage route between the holy cities, and the christians have their own that end up in Jerusalem. And the sick bastards like us, who are in love with the female race as a whole, should have a pilgrimage route that starts in Saint Petersbourg, then Moscow, Minsk, Kiev, Kishinev, Odessa, and ends in Istanbul. I wonder if their is a man alive that could sustain the hardships of this route.....

I will be waiting for your e-mail gabnal@hotmail.com

Cossack
08-09-02, 15:27
Gabnal, it's in the mail. Use it wisely, and be nice!

Your idea is not as sick as you think dude. Last summer, I went on a Black Sea tour with a few buddies. We loaded up our Jeeps (CJs - 4 total), and drove from Istanbul, to Bulgaria, up to Romania, across to Moldovia, Ukraine, Crimea, and then ferry boat down to Turkey. 3 weeks of whoring on the road. We used all the info on the various sections of this board to plan the pit stops, and all I can say is that we are planning to do it again next spring!! And you are right, I went on a weeks vacation to recover after I got back, unfortunately, I went to Cyprus, and didn't really recover fully. When we plan to do the tour again, I will inform you all, and those with stamina are more than welcome to join.

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride.

Cossack

Banana Joe
08-09-02, 16:38
Well done, Cossack!

But now you HAVE TO write a detailed travel report for all of us: you can't hint only, you have to tell us the whole story ... we are eager of new *****mongering's tales! :-)

Happy hunting,
Banana Joe

Hedonist
09-11-02, 18:23
Some info about Seranda Hotel:

I checked it out myself. It is clean and safe. I have been there four times. Don't get scared when you see people dressed like police when you approach to the hotel. Those are private security.
They were charging a 13M (~$8) cover to enter to the disco. Action starts around 11pm. But it is ugly. All these girls are dancing on a little dance floor and you are supposed to approach them and bargain. You are not really allowed dance. It is a real market. Well, that's the way it works there. All girls ask for $100 for an all-nighter. 100 M (~$60) for three times and so on. A lot of Romanian girls, whom I definitely NOT recommend. Girsl fuck with you in the hotel upstairs, which costs 40M (~$25), and go downstairs to pick up new customers. So, if you go there late, you will get 2nd hand pussy. On my first night, the Romanian girl for reason liked me, and she stayed with me the whole night. we fucked at least five, and it was a GF experience. She kissed, gave me a BJ etc. Later on I had two other Romanians who were completely disappointing. They were just lying in the bed and waiting for me to come. Later on a I had a Russian beauty, she gave a good service. Romanians usually don't give BJs and don't do anal sex. Stick to Russians. In general, this place is a safe and clean place to have paid sex, but the girls suck in my opinion. Enjoy Istanbul!

Stockbroker
09-12-02, 02:21
My last night at Bacardi..............

Guys ,i have been several times to this club before.But last time
when i got Bacardi club few days ago,the only thing that i saw was a heaven..
My former place Club 2000 was really empty and i decided to walk
a little to Bacardi Club. There were at least 100 girls who was more beatiful from each other.
But price that they asked was a little bit higher than other girls
from different clubs.i think it is a kind of "girl's syndicate"..
But all the girls were bests in istanbul's night life.
try Bacardi you will not regret....
let me know if you enjoyed...
stockbroker.

Alien Autopsy
09-12-02, 02:27
I will be staying in the Bebek section of Istanbul in October. Are any of the clubs, like Bacardi or Seranda Hotel nearby? Do these clubs have Latinas? The last time I was in Turkey I was diasppointed with the qulaity of sex from the Eastern European girls. Many are very pretty but do not seem to have the sexual skills as the Asians and Latinas.

BunnyHopper
09-16-02, 01:11
I have been on a short break in Istanbul in August 02, my first trip to Turkey. Having taken the advise from previous postings on this site, I feel that I should add my experiences here too so that future travellers can benefit from them.

I know this is long report but I have tried to think of every possible detail (save a few exceptions) that a potential reader may have. {My first draft was even longer !!!!)

Day 1:

I arrived very late on Friday night (around 11.00 pm). I had to pay €15.00 (£10.00) entry visa. My hotel was on the European side close to the main pedestrianised road called Istiklal Caddesi, not far from the Euro Plaza, which someone has mentioned on the WSG before. The fare was about 24million lira and I paid the driver 30million and the journey took about 30mins.

As I was checking in to my hotel I asked the guy at the front desk if it was OK to bring overnight guests to the room. He said it was OK, but I had already prepaid/booked a double-I don’t know what the answer would have been had I been in a single/rated room.

I washed/showered and then changed into a pair of ordinary blue Levis and white shirt with black shoes (for those of you that want to know about dress code {or as it turned out, there isn’t one}) and slapped on some after-shave/cologne and headed out.

It was now 1.30-2.00am ‘ish and I stepped outside of my hotel and looked at the row of cabs outside. I approached an oldish/skinny looking driver figuring that a young /mean looking one would be more likely to rip-me off. I asked him if he spoke English (I speak no Turkish other than some basic phrases “Yes”, “No”, “How much”…etc) he said no. I said you know Seranda Hotel ?, he shook his head, I then said Aksaray meaning just take me across the water to the old city. I thought I would take this cab to Aksaray and then swap into another cab for Serenda Hotel when in the area.

The driver got the directions and after a few poorly light back streets we were at the bottom of the road that the Hotel is on. I paid the driver I think about 10-15mill (my mind was a bit of a blur with nerves). At the top of this dead-end road on the left-hand side is the Hotel with the words Serenda Hotel written in white on a blue neon background. A smaller similar sign underneath it says Serenda Disco. There was a set of steps at the top of the road next to the hotel. The road was pretty busy with traffic, parked taxis and people coming and going. I did not feel uncomfortable walking up the street towards the sign. I made an attempt to look as though I was walking with purpose so avoided eye contact with most people on the street.

Under the disco sign is the entrance to the club. I walked through the entrance and at the top there was one guy in his 50’s seated at a cash register/till and a couple of young uniformed security guys. A sign on the wall says in English 15 million.

It was now around 2.30am I guess. I paid 15 million and showed my passport, they all paused and looked at me a second. I was frisked by a uniformed security guy whom then called a waiter out whom then led me into the club/bar.

99 % of the guys inside where Turks ! For some reason I had imagined that the majority would be tourists like myself from Western Europe or North America. (By they way these guys were there like me for the girls, not to drink or get drunk, fight or rob people - they did not give me a second glance and I felt very comfortable and melted into the background - I am from the UK but my ethnic background is from the Indian Sub-Continent. There were a couple of white guys inside though having a great time, however I did not see any Black or Oriental looking guys though, but I can’t imagine they would have any problems though.).

The waiter showed me to a table. I asked do you speak English? He shook his head and called another that did. He asked what would you like and I replied how much is a coke. He said it was included in the entrance price. He came back to my table with a small glass of coke and two small plates of fruit and peanuts also included in the 15mill fee.

The place is pretty small. A 5m long bar along one wall and a dance floor measuring 5m by 7m along the wall opposite with tables and chairs everywhere else and about 7 or 8 waiters inside plus a DJ on the turntables in the corner near the entrance to the toilets.

I sat looking at that dance floor and there were about 10-20 girls dancing with guys and the dance floor was packed. There were also some girls sitting at tables in groups of 2 and 3. Also you must remember that that there will probably a dozen or so girls already in the bedrooms as well at any given time.

Rule 1. You must not change the table that your are shown to when you enter the club. After my first coke I went and sat at another table closer to the dance floor and a waiter promptly came over and asked me to go back to my original table. Which I did.

Rule 2. You must not talk to any of the girls that are seated or as they walk around the bar/ to or from the toilet. I did this and a waiter shouted at me.

Rule 3. ALL propositioning is to be done on the dance floor. You see a girl you like wait till she is on the floor, you then go to the floor and just ask “How much ?” You see girls moving about the floor from guy to guy and each guy asking her stuff. Just wait till she catches your eye and then ask. On my first night I found it difficult to come out with the words “How much” straight off so like an idiot I asked “Are you alone?” … blah blah blah and things like that and the girls smiled at me thinking first timer !

All girls quoted the same numbers; the rate is 50mill TL for 1 hour or US$100 for the night. 9 out 10 of them are gorgeous with the odd fat/old one thrown in for good measure. Just ignore them if they look at you. The girls are aged 18 to 22 I would say and most are dressed as girls that age would do to go for a night out on the town. Some in tight jeans other in tight trousers others in short low cuts tops and the odd one or two in evening dresses. I think most of them are Romanian or Moldavian. I did not encounter any Turkish or Russian girls (but I did not speak to all of them). They do not look like pro’s more amateurs to me.

I met this great Romanian girl and was quoted the prices as above and I said one hour. She said follow me (most speak a little English) and walked off the dance floor towards the exit a metre or two behind her (AGAIN I DID NOT TALK TO HER WHILST WE WERE OFF THE FLOOR IN THE CLUB). Through the exit (the same one you enter through) is another door (next to the guy at the cash till) that leads directly to the front desk of the hotel. The girl then hands you her id/passport and goes to and waits on some leather couches in the foyer whilst you wait at the front desk. I asked how much for the room the guy said 40mill (they all spoke English at the front desk). He took both passports and asked me to sign a form and gave a set of keys to the bell-boy (not so young in his 40’s maybe) the girl comes back and the three of us go up in a lift to the room. The guy goes in turns on the TV shows you the fridge and then waits for a tip. I gave him 5million and he then left. The girl then whispers to me “preservative”(condom in Turkish) and I shook my head to mean I have none. (Tip: Bring your own if you want save on the cost/hassle and keep contact with hotel staff to an absolute minimum) She then goes to the door and calls him back and says something to him. She closes the door and a few minutes later another guy knocks on the door. I showed him two fingers J and he gave me the two condoms and he showed me three fingers J I gave him 5mill he smiled and walked off. I didn’t plan to do it twice in 1 hr, but wanted a spare in case 1 condom broke or something.

The girls are very friendly but treat them well. Don’t jump on them as soon as the door closes be gentle (follow the advise of previous postings) ask their name, if they are hungry, where they are from…etc. The fridge in each room contains one coke, one fanta and one bottled water (included in the 40mill for the room-I think) offer her something, you’ve already paid for it ! Think about it, most of the guys in the club are locals, perhaps they don’t tip or haggle the price down further …etc (and as one girl told me they all do it like “ like a dog and car” - (not quite ‘Cockney Rhyming Slang’ - for the Londoners J) by dog she meant doggy-style and by car she meant fast!!), tip her 10-20mill TL & be nice to her and you will stand out head and shoulders above the other guys and get a better level of service.

However, who does not like doggy-style? I know that I do !!

All services are available, oral, anal (bring your own lubricant if you don’t want to spend your time struggling to penetrate her), kissing, fucking with no condom, if that is your cup of tea. (BUT AGREE THE SERVICE YOU WANT ON THE DANCE FLOOR FIRST). But obviously this depends also on how attractive or unattractive you make look to her and if you can develop some sort of rapport in the short space if time.

We did the deed, she was exceptional, she had a shower and we then went downstairs to the front desk where I collect both passports and then back into the disco. The girl has to pay to get back in, I was about to pay as well too (seeing her do it) when the security guy shook his head to stop me and just opened the door to let me back in.

When inside DON’T TALK TO HER AGAIN EXCEPT ON THE DANCE FLOOR. I took up my old seat and ordered coke from the same waiter, 4mill and the bill was presented at the same time. I gave him a 10mill note and he came back with a 6mill I gestured to him to keep it and he seemed delight. This is the best thing to do. Tip him 5-6 mill (think about it, it’s worth very little in £, $ or €’s) and he will look after you and offer you a better seat…etc on the second or third night…etc, consider it an investment. Perhaps you can prise from him nuggets of useful information about the local scene.

I then went to the toilet and outside the toilet sits an old women with a bottle of some type of hand lotion. After using the toilet on exiting it you should pay her. After my first trip to the toilet I came out looked at her shook my head to mean I did not want it and walked off. She seemed to get annoyed and I did not understand why. On the second trip to the gents a Turkish guy was exiting the gents before me and I watched him pay what looked like 3mill to the women (I now know it was probably around 300k lira - too many zeros in the currency for me). Anyway, I put 5mill on the table and walked off without taking any lotion. You are paying to use the toilet not for the lotion, that’s why she got annoyed the first time.

CAN SOMEONE ANSWER ME A QUESTION? THE WOMEN WITH THESE BOTTLES, DO THEY ONLY SIT OUTSIDE TOILETS IN CLUBS WHERE THERE IS SEX ON THE MENU OR DO YOU ALSO FIND THEM OUTSIDE THE TOILETS IN “NORMAL CLUBS/BARS?”

I then picked a second girl and wanted her for the whole night US$100 and to come to my hotel. She would not agree to come to my hotel (neither would the first girl that I had - taking her out for the night would have been my first choice). So we headed to the front desk, the guy asked me how long I wanted the room for I said all night he said I could only have around 90minutes as they were busy, I said ok and asked if I could pay in US$ (I had ran out of lira’s). I gave him $40 and both sets of passports/id and he gave me change in lira’s taking the equivalent of 40mill TL. Then same routine with the bellboy and condom vender.

In the room I told the girl we could only have the room for 90 mins and I agreed to pay her $40 she said ok. We did the deed and I gave her a $20 tip she was ecstatic with the tip. Again, treat her nicely and YOU WILL FEEL THE DIFFERENCE. She then offered to spend the following daytime with me and stay at my hotel all night for $160. Because I had plans to meet local friends during daylight hours I said I could not but I would pick her up at the club that evening for an all nighter at my place.

We went downstairs collected the id’s she went into the disco I went outside, flagged one of the many cabs 4.30 am ‘ish and went to my hotel on the European side cost 10mill I think.

Some tips. All the girls I asked said no to coming to my place, with hindsight I think when they have slept with you one night they may be more willing to go with you the second night. Or perhaps it was because my hotel was one on the Euro side or one that they were not familiar with

CAN ANYONE SHED SOME LIGHT FOR ME ON THIS ?

One girl said to me that if they use a hotel other than Serenda for the deed the management of Serenda don’t let them work the disco again and for that reason they don’t like to go to the other hotels. Most live in other hotels close by and just work the Serenda disco. Also as these girls are illegal aliens or on holiday visas they don’t venture out of the Aksaray area much even in the daytime (to avoid the police) and often have not heard of any of the larger hotels on the Euro side or even the tourist attractions in the Old city and Euro side, Blue Mosque, Aya Sofia, Dolmabache Palace…etc !!!!

Also one Romanian girl I spoke to said that there is a stigma attached to giving blowjobs and for that reason they do not offer this readily. Of the three girls I had during my stay only one gave oral. One girl that did not do oral, on the second time that I went with her, asked me if I found a girl that did oral I said yes and she seemed shocked! and said that, that girl would be an outcast if the other girls found out that oral had been done. I made her agree to not say anything (as she knew who the second girl was as I bumped into her when taking that second girl upstairs). How bizarre, oral is not offered readily but anal and condomless sex is ???

Day 2. I was feeling more confident and braver about the Istanbul nightlife and wanted to try the Chicago2000 and the Bacardi Club. Grabbed a cab near Taksim Square, young skinny driver maybe 20 years old spoke very little English nodded when asked Chicago2000 Aksaray? Took me to the area and pointed up at some building I got out of the cab and looked up but could not she the place. I did not want to walk around looking lost so I flagged another cab and said Bacardi club, he nodded I said how much ? He then showed me 1 finger to mean 1mill. As soon as I got in, he turned around and showed me three fingers. I protested (not too strongly) and thought fuck it I’m not gonna argue over 2mill lira, less than pocket change < £1.00 !! Besides he was a big ‘n’ beefy chap.

Bacardi was very close. Small sign outside and staircase leading down to the club. Security frisked me, no entrance fee charged. Maybe he thought I was Turkish ?? I thought an entrance fee was charged ?? or perhaps I do not recall the previous postings here correctly.

Waiter showed me to a seat at the bar (time now around 12.00am) This place is much larger. 15-20 girls on the dance floor a couple of guys dancing amongst them to get a better look, a further 20-25 girls sitting drinking and single guys, pairs of guys.etc sitting drinking and looking around too.

I was wary of being ripped off because of previous postings here on the board, & asked the price of a coke. Waiter spoke little English and wrote the number twelve on a napkin. (Tip: Take a pen and piece of paper with you when hunting, useful also for communicating a price with the girls too. Can you count to a 100 in Turkish ? I can’t and neither can a lot of the girls.). He bought the coke and the standard plate of fruit...etc I pulled out 15mill (this time a had a pocket full 5’s and 10’s (in addition to the main store of cash and $’s safely in my wallet in my front pocket (was dressed the same as at Serenda - for those wanting to know about the dress code. Don’t wear a collar and tie…etc you will single yourself out, perhaps for higher prices. Ther were maybe 15-20 men inside and only 1 or 2 wearing a collar and tie.) He seemed annoyed, wondered off and came back with a bill. I gave him 15mill and gestured to keep the rest. As the place is bigger and dimly lighted I could not see the girls clearly. I tried to strike up a conversation with the waiter in a mix of English and Turkish. I learned that it is around $100-$200 for the girl for the night, I guess it depends on the girl you take a fancy to and how good looking or plain you maybe yourself and this rapport factor. He asked me if I wanted a girl and I said I wanted a better look at the girls before deciding, remember that some of the girls are seated and so until they get up and dance you can’t really see all the girls that are available for you that night.

99% of the girls in this place were all dressed in dresses (unlike Serenda) again all late teens early twenties and gorgeous. 99% Turkish guys in there, again I felt very comfortable, all the guys looking at the girls, nobody loud or drunk. Same rules as before. You don’t move seats once you’re given one (unless the waiter moves you) and you don’t talk to the girls off the floor unless I think the waiter brings her to you (at your request).

At this point a Turkish guy was shown to a chair next to me and after he got his drink etc he said something to me in Turkish, I said Ingilize? He said yes and we struck up a conversation. He had lived and worked in the UK and Germany. I asked him what the set up here is and if he had been here before. He said he came before but was worried out being ripped off so left with out a girl.

I ordered a second coke and when the coke arrived I pulled out 15mill and wanted to pay, the waiter wrote 5mill on the napkin and seemed a little annoyed. I think what they want is for you to pay the tab at the end when you leave with a girl (unlike Serenda where it is pay-as-you-drink.). This guy then asked in Turkish to the waiter if we could have seats closer to the floor, the waiter said that the place was busy and most seats taken, which I could see was correct. The waiter told him that we should not wait too long as all the best girls would be gone, this was true also.

We went over to the dance floor boogied for 5 minutes taking a closer look at the girls. 11 out of 10 for looks but did not speak to any of them.

My new friend said that he thinks the waiters act like a go between, you pick the girl He calls her, to sit next to you, you strike a deal, pay him 10mil (a guess) and your tab and take the girl.

We never found out because we never closed the deal. I told him that I went to Serenda the night before and he said he wanted me to take him there. I felt OK with this guy as we are both in the same profession and he knew too much technical stuff about the profession to be trying to con me. I was very glad to have someone with me that spoke fluent Turkish. We paid the bills and left.

(((The main reason why I had left was that I was thinking about the girl from the night before and wanted to take her to my place for an all-nighter. Better the devil you know I guess. She really was amazing in bed, on the floor, against the wall, in the shower…. etc use you imaginations. I felt OK in Bacardi club and on another visit there, would certainly close a deal. I did not get any feeling that I would be ripped at all, but I suspect if a rip-off did occur it most probably occur when the girl is seated with you, costly Champagne…etc.))) !!

We got outside took a right and after I think about 10 or 20 yards right again (on what I believe is Namik Kemel Caddesi, walked up the road and asked for directions. The two places are about a 1-minute walk apart. It was 100 yards further up Namik Kemel Cad down a road on the left hand side, perpendicular. From the bottom of the road I could see the blue and white Serenda sign.

We went in and the waiter I had tipped a few times the night before warmly greeted me with a handshake. He showed us to a good table with a decent view of the floor. We very nearly didn’t get in, the guy at the cash/till said they were full or the hotel was full up (Saturday night), but my new Turkish friend managed to persuade him and we got in (no more cash was paid for this), I think they were genuinely busy.

I explained to my new friend the set-up here, we had a drink together and he danced a bit and left with his chosen one. I did not see him again and sadly I did not get his email address, but I did tell him about the WSG. So if you are reading… HELLO !!!

I sat around looking for this girl that agreed to an all-nighter with me the previous evening but could not spot her. I went to the floor a while and then picked another girl (Moldavian) for an hour and went through the same routine at the front desk. This girl performed a BBBJ. But I asked her if “sucks” (which I gather is the term they use for a BJ), whilst on the dance floor to which she smiled and said she’ll decide when we are in the room. (I don’t think she would have said yes in front of the other girls dancing very close by)

PERHAPS THIS IS JUST MY OWN SMALL EXPERIENCE-CAN ANYONE SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS NO ORAL BUSINESS FOR ME?

CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WOULD IT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO PAY 40MILL FOR THE ROOM ONCE AND THEN USE IT A FEW TIMES WITH DIFERENT GIRLS MAKING TRIPS DOWN TO THE BAR ? OR DID I NEEDLESSLY PAY THE 40MILL TWICE ON MY FIRST EVENING THERE?

We had a pre-sex shower together (showering together is nice and a good way to ensure you don’t leave your wallet unattended with her - though she was harmless in that respect and I did not feel uncomfortable for 1 minute) and then some fantastic sex in many positions I did not think physically possible!! I think I tipped her 10-20mill I think, I can’t recall. I went down stairs collected the ID’s, she went back to the disco, and I grabbed a cab to my hotel.

Day 3: At around 6.00 pm I grabbed a cab and asked if he spoke English he shook his head. I said Club Nadide Nisantasi he shook his head. I said Nisantasi he said yes and I got in. When in Nisantasi he stopped got out and asked for directions to Nadide.

Small brown/gold hand painted/printed sign saying Nadide & Enjoy outside, went up small flight of steps and range the bell. A madam type woman answered the door. I smiled said Merhaba! and walked in and said Ingilize? And we started to talk. I guess this is the English speaking “*****” type person a previous posting talks about. I think the secret is to be relaxed smile and be polite.

I asked what girls where available and there were 5. They were all Turkish and not very good locking (perhaps because this was Sunday evening). The madam took me to side room where she quizzed me a little (I guess trying to decide if I am the “Polis”). She asked my name, which country I am from…etc to which I smiled and answered trying to put her at ease. She said that either I could pick the girl or if I told her what I was after she could advise on which girl would best suite my particular cravings. In the end I picked the one that I thought was best looking (without telling the madam what I wanted-with hindsight I guess I should have, I should not have been shy to say sex, bj, ….etc). Payment was made to this madame at this point, whom kept saying (rightly) that I would pay no more in the room.

Anyway was shown to a massage room and the girl entered, she gestured to a wardrobe and slippers and also to another room across the corridor and said “douce” (sp?) meaning shower and left. I got undressed and I walked into the shower. She then came and closed the door to the massage room and there was a key in the keyhole. She locked the massage room and handed me the key and walked back to the reception/waiting area. I had a shower and went back the massage room unlocking it myself. She came in, I got on the massage bench and she proceeded to massage me and as she did so we tried to talk, a bit of Turkish and a bit of English. After about ten minutes or so she gestured to me to turn over and massaged my legs (I had a towel still around my waist). After a while she pulled off the towel & pointed to my **** and nodded at me. I laughed and said Evet!, she performed a BBBJ but would not take off her clothes, only hitching up her skirt. She only let me feel her breasts, legs and arse. I asked for sex she said no. I didn’t really feel turned on (though the BBBJ was OK and but the hand job a bit harsh on my **** !) I gestured to her to stop after about 10 minutes and got off the bench and gestured that I was not going to climax. She left and I got dressed.

The madam then came back and asked what was wrong, I said the girl was fine but I was just not aroused enough. I finished getting dressed and headed to the reception/waiting area where the madam approached me again. She then said to me that I could have the mobile phone number of the girl if I wanted. I said that this was my penultimate day in Istanbul and I declined the offer of the number and left. Had I been in town for a few more days I would have visited again at a more busy time or taken the girls number.

I walked back to my hotel, having a good look at Nisantasi. It is one of the better areas of Istanbul I think with lots of familiar Western European shops and Banks, even a Marks & Spencer’s of things!!

This being my last evening to go to Serenda, I thought this time I would go early. That night I got there at about 11.00pm. The entry fee written on the wall was 13mill this time, the Sunday rate? And also an all-nighter is till about 4 or 5 am what ever time you start. So for it to be worthwhile you will need to be in the hotel room with your girl as early as possible.

I was looking for the girl that offered to stay at my hotel but I could not spot here. After an hour or so I picked the Romanian girl from my first night and paid her $100 at the start plus $20 tip at the end for the night till 4.30 am. I paid a further 1mill lira at the front desk when collecting the passports for the phone calls she made whilst in the room to her so boyfriend…hmmm!. The room was still 40mill that night. This was the girl I saw twice, she was really beautiful. On this occasion we did nothing but talk, I was content just to look at her and touch her face.

TO MARIO: Sir, I know exactly what you mean about falling in Love. So warm, gentle, fragile, beautiful and kind. No less flesh and blood than you or I and certainly no less with feeling or emotion or hopes and dreams than you or I my friends. In another time and place I would have fallen head-over-heels and spent a lifetime chasing, wooing and romancing her. She is still swimming around in my mind.

I wish I had followed the advice not to see a girl twice.

I hate the f***ing pimps. Does that now make me a hypocrite? One exploiter’s distain for another? I wonder, who is worse the Punter or the Pimp.



On that night I noticed that all the girls where trying to catch my eye. Perhaps they had noticed that I had been there on three consecutive nights and had money to spend or perhaps the girls talk amongst themselves as to which guy pays how much and tips how much, what currency he uses and how he treats the girls or maybe simply because there weren’t so many guys in there on Sunday night. Who knows! Who cares!

Also my waiter friend from previous nights greeted me warmly again and showed me to a good table. I kept up the tips. On that night I developed quite a conversation with him. He told me about the places, towns, resorts he had worked and I told him a little bit about myself. If I visit Istanbul again and I go there I will ask for him by name. With hindsight what I should have done was quizzed him about similar establishments in the area-sadly I did not do this.

CAN ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS - PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY? VARIETY REALLY IS THE SPICE OF LIFE !!

Day 4:

My flight-out was in the late afternoon and I only had one thing left that I wanted to do. That was to see a genuine Turkish Brothel, Genelev. My hotel was about a 10-15 minute walk from the place. I know that postings here say they are disgusting but I just wanted to eyeball the place for myself.

Anyway I found the place in Zurafa Street (close to a Synagogue near the Galata Tower & Galata Bridge). One Turk walked in before me having flashed his id. I walked in next, speaking English; I said could I go in. The policeman at the gate said in broken English “Turk only” and he looked around nervously, there were a few Turkish guys queuing behind me. Needless to say I did not argue with him and I walked off. I think had there not been people behind me he may have asked me for a fee/tip and let me in, who knows.

Early afternoon checked out of hotel and went to the airport and back home………….

Prior to my trip, I was also planning to take in the Demirkoy Hotel on one night. I liked the idea of the Moroccan girls, but the last few postings about that on the board left me a little confused about its exact location and whether or not it is still a happening place and given that it’s quite a long way out to the airport (and to return having made a fruitless journey), I did not bother to go there.

In addition I would have tried the services of the Madam that was discussed in postings earlier had I managed to obtain the number. Hint Hint !

I may visit again at the end of September 2002 again for 3 or 4 days but will almost certainly have local female Turkish company, again. If I can get away in the evenings by myself , I will check things out again.

My email is wsg_1000@yahoo.co.uk

If anybody wants to ask any specific questions, though after the length of this posting, I suspect that I will not be asked many questions…just email me.

By the way during the daytime I was shown around the city by a couple of female Turkish friends I have that live in Istanbul, (needless to say they where not aware of my nocturnal activities). A truly beautiful city full of so much history, I loved it.

Turkish women are really very beautiful. If I had more time I would have spent time in the evenings in regular bars to meet regular girls.

Stockbroker
09-16-02, 02:57
Hey Bunnyhopper.....
i am glad to hear that you enjoyed istanbul...
if you dont want to pay the hotel for twice in a night,you better go there at day time and book a room for two nights..and keep the keys with you..(you can use it for two days along)
i am a little disapointed by your experience in Bacardi Club.
in Bacardi club the party starts at 01 am,so next time go there
at 12 ,and insist on seating a table near to dancefloor..tip him in advance..and wait for the best girl.They are freelancers,come and go...dont give a shit what waitress said.You never know who is coming..week days are better..weekends are busy..
Nowadays girls population is getting crowded because they are coming back from South of Turkey where they went to work and holliday.Augst is a dead season...by the october hunting season is opening.
i live in istanbul,dont hesitate ask everything about istanbul...
night life,historical places,restaurants or so..
good luck,bye..
stockbroker

wolfhound
09-16-02, 05:35
To Stockbroker:

Hi there, i will be visiting istanbul in early November. If i'm not wrong, that corresponds to the low season in turkey. Will i have problems getting the girls in seranda hotel during that period?

Secondly, i will most likely be staying at royal hotel istanbul as i could not find any website for the seranda hotel, thus i could not make any reservation. Should i book single or double room if i'm going to bring the girls back to my hotel? Maybe i would book royal hotel only for the 1st night then try to stay at seranda for the rest of my visit there.

Thirdly, after reading some of the reports here, it seems that an all night with the girls translates to about them staying only until 5am. Will they stay until morning till about 10am?

Lastly, on a totally different topic, any good restuarants to recommend that won't rip me off?

Thanks in advance.
If you ever need advice on SIngapore, Malaysia or bangkok sex scene give me a ring and i'll return the favour.

Local Expert
09-16-02, 07:39
Bunnyhopper ! Thanks for this detailed and great posting. I aggree with everything you said regarding Serenda.

1) Toilet women: You can find these women usually only in places with a hoocker scene. The bottle infront of her is filled with Turkish Cologne. You pay 4 using the toilet, 1 mio TL is more than enough.

2) I went to Serenda only twice. Both times the girls offered me "escort" for 24 hours for 100 USD but the following day.

3) BJ in Serenda: I was served well :-) both times I was there

jakke
09-16-02, 11:45
I will be in Istanbul early october, so if that madames number or any same kind of numbers are available, I'll thank you.

My email is jari@zzn.zzn.com

Stockbroker
09-16-02, 13:08
Serenda is not a kind of hotel that you want to stay...poor service
and no located near to business centers..
till morning, means 5 am unless agreed 10 or so...

food in istanbul is an other subject...what do you like most to eat ?
bye
stockbroker

paganslave
10-04-02, 20:23
Cossack,
Are you still in Istanbul? I'm currently in Ankara and will be trying to get information on places to hit here, but wanted to get the latest from you on Istanbul. My work has be bouncing between Ankara, Istanbul, Izmir and Adana. I hope to truly flush out the WSG>Europe>Turkey forum before I'm done. E-mail me at paganslave@hotmail.com if your inclined.

USArocks
10-05-02, 00:15
wolfhound:

Check out my post from early August. It talks a bit about the food in Istanbul. Great city man, your going to love it. Most everyone I met speaks at least some English. It seems like Turkish, English and Russian are the most widely spoken languages in Istanbul.

Try the fish restaurants in the Beyazit area. Some are really great!

Tocsin
10-05-02, 02:44
Originally posted by paganslave
Cossack,
Are you still in Istanbul? I'm currently in Ankara and will be trying to get information on places to hit here, but wanted to get the latest from you on Istanbul. My work has be bouncing between Ankara, Istanbul, Izmir and Adana. I hope to truly flush out the WSG>Europe>Turkey forum before I'm done. E-mail me at paganslave@hotmail.com if your inclined.

paganslave,

have you been to the AFRODIT in Adana? I went there but was unable to hook up because the manager keep saying I had to for over 500 US for a Russian girl. I know no one is paying that.
There choice of girls there looks relly good but I am not paying that.
Stay away from the Genelev in Adana. No women under 90 years old! LOL

paganslave
10-08-02, 06:03
Tocsin,
They are scaming you! I went thee with a local friend about 3 months ago and prices were a fraction of that. I'll be back in Adana next month and I'll let you know what is up.

gremlin
10-17-02, 13:13
Hey guys,

Firstly I want to thank you all for posting all this great info.

I often now have to travel to Istanbul for business but unfortunately usually only for the day :-(((

Does anyone have either of two things:

1. There much discussed telephone number of the russian madam, I really hope t get to stay there sometime soon and would love a nice daytime and or evening visit.

2. Any details of daytime places, massage, escort, brothels (except the local government run hell hole)

Edrotic
10-18-02, 13:45
Hi,

I often stay in Istanbul, unfortunately only daytime in the Crown Plaza hotel. Any recommendations of any 'erotic sauna - massage' services in this area or alternatives this time of the day..?

Thanks..E.

Tocsin
10-18-02, 19:29
paganslave,

I thought they were trying to scam me... that's why I didn't get one of the girls. I almost stayed at the hotel there but passed when they quoted the rates for girls. Let me know what the deal is so that the next time I am in Adana I'll know what to do.
ALso, when the weather is warm, I know they have girls hanging out at their pool. The same goes for the pool at the Hotel Seyhan. Now, at the Seyhan, I don't know what the deal is regarding those girls but I believe that there is a possibility for action. I had stayed at the Seyhan in July and went to the pool. One of the busboys was yelling at me not to go since "no girls were there." Iwas actually going to the pool to swim. ANyway, any news about the action in Adana would be appreciated.
Again, I reiterate... stay away from the Genelev in Adana unless you like really old and baggy looking women.
Peace

Capt Nemo
10-19-02, 15:02
Hiya all, you Istanbul pussy hunters, I have just this week arrived in Istanbul on a yacht for a winter refit and my Crew and I are looking for some fun and games in Istanbul, anyone with good suggestions of how to make the next 4 months more enjoyable I would love to hear from you.
Stockbroker, I would like to get hold of you as you say you live here and know the ropes. well looking froward to feedback.

Regards,

paganslave
10-19-02, 21:29
Alex, I hope you won't mind me adding your thoughts to the WSG. They are great tidbits.


I have enjoyed the WSG reports so much since I am a frequent visitor to Istanbul. I had a turkish girlfriend for almost two years I met her in Dubai and ever since we arrange to meet in Istanbul and have fun for about two weeks every other 4 months, then we brok up last year since then I benfited from the forum a lot

so I visited Serenda Club which is in Aksaray area not very far from the big intersection there it is to the right if you are heading towards the airport from Taksim, the situation there as explaind in the forum except the fees is 12mil TL it is off season the dance floor(Maidan) is full this time at 1:00 am and you cannot see the girls perfectly because of the crowd but the best thing is to take a good table overlooking the floor until you find the one fit your desire and go a head and ask her how much and all the details.

by the way one person cannot sit alone on these table you have to share it with another two which mostly going to be turkish boys . after picking the girl the mood at the reception is normal as if you are lineing up at the post office your and her IDs and 40mil TL for the room most girls have condoms and as soon as you get into the room the girl takes off her clothes and the push you to make it quick so they can go a gain for another customer I have tried last night for a one hour session which cost 50milTL plus another 20 as a tip. after you are done you give the keys and that is it.

Rgarding massage place in Nadide, I had me to find it and not every taxi driver knows it even if you pick the taxi from Nisnatsi area the address there is Nadid & Enjoy , Valikonagi Cad. Akkavak Sk. No:16
apt # 2 tel :212-2416283 or 2417582.
after nocking the door at the second floor a girl opens the door and search you for weapon with a smile and if you speak english the manager who is a lady in her 40s will speak to you. after having a tea at this loung while you cheking the girls available if you do not like what you see you can tell her that you will wait for the others inside customers rooms may be you like them better, the charge for the massage is 100mil TL which is far from calling it a massage it is sensual touching and the girl will offer you a BJ for 20 or BJ and a quick fuck for 50 mil.
and she will cover the window on your door so want be noticed because if the police cathes them doing sex it is a huge fine , later you can have the girl mobile # or the manager No and she can send you the girl at your hotel if the price is right. all girls are turkish which are usually if they have a good face means no good body but if she have a good boobs or big ass then her face could be ugly so make your choice.

tonight I will be going to the Demirkoy hotel in Artakoy near the airport to check some Natasha girls there.
so please if you have some info to exchang about the scene her in Istanbul pleae let me know especially escort service or the Russian madam which they have talking about all over the forum.
Thanks a lot/

yours: Alex

I'll be back to Istanbul from Ankara in a couple of weeks to ad stories to the forum. Until then, keep hunting men!

Local Expert
10-24-02, 10:47
I will be in Istanbul this weekend. Is the "Demirköy Hotel" found at the following address?

Demirköy Hotel
Sahilyolu 2 Kisim
Ataköy-Istanbul

Please advise

CBGBConnisur
10-25-02, 02:49
If you really want to meet beautiful Turkish women for sex go to Ist.. no go to Germany, yes Germany!!! Deutschland!!! There are many beautiful Turkish women in Germany, and you will find many at local FKK clubs.

upfront
10-27-02, 11:25
Dear paganslave
this is Alex thanks for posting my remarks now I am a regýstered user I can post my messages myself anyway excuse my wrýtýng because the keyboards ýn Turkey have no dot ýn top of the I so my message to you ýs to gýve me more ýnfo regardýng Istanbul
I thýng Serenda Otel could be called Istanbul *****s for dummýes
cause you do not need any trýcks or ýntellegence to pýck up a gýrl
just ask and off you go.
my advýce after couple of pýck ups:
Do's :
1- look for the ýnocent ones and unproffesýtonal .
2- some týme you have to compromýse character and the look cause you may lýke her look but ýn bed she ýs shýt .
3-try to pýck up girls from eastern euorp who are unlýke local ones
do not to make any trouble because they are (Yabangý) .
4- when you are in the room wýth girl and she does not start wthe give me the money and would not mind talking a little she ýs OK go a head.
5- ýf you like the girl and would like to see her again gýve her extra and you may discusse with her coming to your hotel or better escort on agreeable price.
6- when you decide to have a girl for escort or a long perýod try to check wýth her into a new hotel as if she is your copanýon (Khanom) and would not thýnk she ýs a Pro. and ask her to avoýde flashy clothýng whých indýcate she is a whor .

Dont's :
1- pick up local *****s from places lýke Serenda cause they must be professýonal and must be old or dývorced wýth kýds and you wýll hate yourself afterwards
2-ýf you are faced wýth the situatýon where the gýrl ask you to hurry and as for the money as soon as you are in the room it is better for you to give little money and say I change my mýnd cause you wýll regret ýt and loose your money.
3- if you are a guy like me does not want to be dýspoýnted wýth every trýal it is better to pýck the gýrl you lýke and it is a lot cheaper to pay her for escort and go wýth her to a resort area lýke bodrum or antalya or even the ones not far from Istanbul lýke Borsa. anyway I have to go now I wýll contýnue later and I have more ýnfo about Antalya ýf some one is interested.

Hedonist
11-13-02, 18:37
Does the silencium has anything to do with results of the elections. Welcome Mr. Erdogan, bye bye to mongering hookers :) Just kidding..

Local Turks! Come on! Don't let this section die...

kaiheinrichs
11-21-02, 00:43
hi istanbulers

i will be in istanbul at the end of this month.

would be great if you could let me know the telephone number of the russian madame. (does she speeks english ???)

if anybody alse has similiar phone numbers, i would appreciate that too.

many thanks in advance to help me.

please email: kaiheinrichs@aol.com

bush
11-21-02, 16:31
Any ideas as to where you can get some daytime activity in Istanbul? I have been to Nadine massage and was not impressed with the talent or service.

Banana Joe
11-22-02, 15:54
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.

Thanks,

Jackson

Hedonist
11-22-02, 21:30
I guess yours should be deleted as well. No need for hatred in this discussion board.

king2000
11-22-02, 23:11
Hi Hedonist,

Can you tell something more about your trip in Istanbul, you ever tried other massage service or escort service?

traveller2504
11-27-02, 03:07
hi Cossack,

I'm going to be at the Ceylan Intercontinental 2nd and 3rd Dec. I really like the idea of the escort from the russian madam visiting me. Can you send phone number to my email nigel.west@nwest2.fsnet.co.uk.

Do you or nayone else have any further ideas. Looking for whole night sessions in hotel.

Many thanks

ButtHead
11-27-02, 08:34
I recently traveled to Istanbul and found that quite a few hotels do not let girls visit you in the room. Does anyone know of hotels in Istanbul that does not have this policy. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Cachondito
11-27-02, 10:13
Butthead,

My guess is that only the middle class hotels would give you trouble about that. The lower class ones would let anyone into your room once you tip the guys at the front counter. Of course you have to have style, you shouldn't make them feel like pimps. And the upper class hotels (**** and upwards) wouldn't care who comes into your room, as that's a part of the luxury. Just make sure she doesn't obviously look like a hooker. Do not ever try to tip the reception guys at the upper class hotels, that might get you in trouble. Also, there's Seranda hotel which is totally the fuckigham palace. They have a club which is practically a brothel, and you can do your hookers in the hotel. You'll see a lot of useful information if you read the older messages on this board. And the oldest ones (archives) can also be of help.

Happy hunting!

Hedonist
12-01-02, 23:32
I really don't have more to add on Istanbul. I don't think there are escort services or massage parlors like we have in the west. You cannot open the yellow pages an order a girl to your room. I think ***** mongering became popular in this country after the collapse of Soviet Union with the flood of Russian beauties. Istanbul is a great city, but not for whoring. Turkish WG's are very rare and you can find one only with the help od Turkish buddies. I slept with quite a few Turkish women, not in exchange of money tough. They are usually quite conservative and not very comfortable in bed, but they are very sensual. A foreigner's best bet in Istanbul is the "Fuckingham Palace" in Laleli. Read the messages posted earlier.

Local Expert
12-02-02, 10:23
...."They are usually quite conservative and not very comfortable in bed, but they..."

What ????????????

Since I got divorced 5 years ago, I have had sooooo many Turkish girlfriends, and "wow", they go off like rockets !!

My expiriences in Turkey are ten times better from what I have seen and lived in Germany !!

For Turkish girls a blow-job e.g. is completely normal and a standart part of the game. Try to find a German girl who even knows what a BJ is..... :-((

This is not only my personal expirience, I am quoting friends of other European nationality as well.

If you look for LTR's Turkey is heaven !

Regarding call-girls or escort services, there MUST be action in Istanbul. Here in Ankara I have heard of at least 2 women-pimps who "deliver", and this is just Ankara. I am very sure there is a looooot more action in Istanbul, you just need a Turkish friend who knows the scene. This mysterious "Russian Lady" is for sure not the only one in town.

Big_Leo69
12-02-02, 18:37
Was in Hotel Seranda 2 weeks ago and the disco was closed...maybe because it was 10:30pm on Wednesday? I don't want people to commit suicide here! ;-)
Anyway, apparently the all Aksaray area (where Hotel Seranda is) is full of activity in hotels: at least this is what a Turkish guy who approached me on the street claimed; he was offering to take me in one of them, but I declined the offer.
have fun,
leo

BunnyHopper
12-02-02, 23:55
I think it does start at 10:30pm, sounds like you were early that evening.

As others have said definitely Fuckingham Palace !!

I am planning another foray to Istanbul in January and will certainly visit Serenda again. This time i plan to close a deal at the Bacardi Club too. {Nobody seems to post anything about Bacardi ??? - does nobody go there now ??}

What is the Chicago2000 ??? club like, very few postings about that. On my last rip to Istanbul i was in the vicinity of the club but could not spot it !!

Time permitting may also visit Ankara.

But a definite must on this next foray to Istanbul is to visit a "regular" club in Istanbul to chance my arm with regular turkish girls (really beautiful women). Any suggestions on a place to visit ?

Went to the James Joyce Irish Pub on Istiklal Cad before but ended up speaking to an American and English guy... no english speaking turkish girls there unfortunately.

BunnyHopper
12-02-02, 23:59
Nearly forgot !!

Is the Demirkoy still a happen'in place ? Are they Morroccan ladies there ? Quite a long way out from the City to return empty handed...

Stockbroker
12-03-02, 03:20
Hey Bunnyhopper.....
Read my topics about Bacardi..

kaiheinrichs
12-09-02, 23:19
Hallo boys,

I posted a Massage some days ago, just to inform me about the telefon nr. of the russian madam.

Nothing happend. So again:

could anyone write me an e-mail about the telefon-nr. of the russian lady, or is it absolutly secret.

I will be in istanbul in the next days.

Thanks for helping me.

E-MAIL: Kaiheinrichs@aol.com

BunnyHopper
12-15-02, 22:12
Hello Gentlemen,

Below are the experiences of a friend of my mine he has kindly allowed to add his recent experiences to our collective knowledge of Istanbul.

Names, dates, time and places have been changed to protect
the guilty !!

In other repectes the report is un-edited.

Serenda has been closed for Ramadam, but is now open again, and is open earlier than people think, I was passing it last night at 10pm and it was open.

A few weeks ago I was flying out of Istanbul and I thought I would try the Demirikoy hotel that was mentioned in the Forum, in Atakoy, so I got in a taxi, and asked to be taken there, only to be told it was closed ( i think he was lying, but not sure) and he would take me to a good hotel in Aksaray, so we end up at this hotel in aksaray, and after I have paid for the night, thinking I would check out Barcardi club, I find out that the hotel won't allow girls back there, so that was $45 down the tube. so I checked out the scene, and thought I would try one of the Pubs, offering Girls, So I went in and tried to make it clear that I didn't want to get ripped off and I wasn't a tourist, assured me that it was only 2 million a beer and 10 million, for a drink with a lady, Yeah right should have know better, well I ended up sitting with a Russian, well past her sell by date, and to be polite, rather than tell her I would not even f...k her with someone elses dick let alone mine, I said I had to go back top my hotel for money, and for her to wait for me, so I put 15 million on the table to cover two beers and her drink, only to be told that the bill was 50 million, because of the nuts, fruit and other things that I didn't ask for, so I paid and left educated.

I went to Barcardi, got a good look around there and was impressed with the selection, had a chat to the waiters who were friendly and helpful, they explained that if I wanted to dance no problem, if I saw a girl I liked they would bring her over, even offering to point out all the girls that could speak English, I got the name of the head waiter and his card but I can't think where it is now. I paid the bill for two beers and the usual fruit etc, which was 20 million, not bad really, definately not a rip off joint. On my quest to find out more I left there and wandered around looking at all the other establishments, most of them are serious ripoff joints and should be avoided at all costs. So I went to Serenda, paid the 15 million to get in, and sat next to a guy from Western Europe , we conversed a little, he told me that the Moldavian girls were the best, anyway it was packed and and you couldn't get on the dance floor to see any of the girls, and after about 20 mins of being there they started the international caberet act, with about 1 hour or more of dance acts, mainly turkish dancing, which went on and on, and on some more. When the Caberet finished and the "Ladies" returned to the dance floor there was a stampede of guys to get to the girls, that was reminiscent of the wilderbeest on the serengeti, during the migration. I made two attempts to get on the dance floor but was defeated but the sheer numbers of Lemmings. I left there thinking to go back to Bacardi, by the way this is all in walking distance, and I felt safe in the streets surrounding there. On the way back I got talking to a taxi driver who said he could fix me up with a nice Russian girl for the night, so I explained that my hotel didn't permit girls there, so he said no problem, he knew of a good hotel and would deal with the whole thing, by this time it was late and I needed to get something sorted before I drowned in backed up bodily fluids. So I thought OK, and agreed the $100 for the night, and jumped into his Taxi, he took me back to my hotel and collected my bags, and then took me to ......... yes you guessed it the Serenda hotel, where he booked me in for the night, which clearly answers your questions, yes you can stay in the serenda for the night, like a normal hotel, except the disco doesn't stop till 5 am!!!!!! anyway waiting in the lobby is my my goergous Russian stunner, NOT, a rather chubby Moldavian girl,( who didn't speak a word of English, Franch or Spanish), still thinking what my new friend downstairs told me about Moldavian girls, I thought I would give it a whirl, and it seemed that she was less likely to crush me that being on the dance floor downstairs. So we went upstairs, where she made a bee line for the mini bar, ( probably where she got the figure from), any way she finally tore herself away from the TV and went and showered, and got in to bed, complaining that she was tired because she had been asleep when the taxi driver had called her to come over. So we got on with the job in hand, and she managed to take her eyes of the TV once or twice during my whole performance, it was most disconcerting, and after we had had a couple of boring husband and wife Fucks, she said that as I was leaving at 7 am for the airport she may as well go now ie about 4.30 am so I could get some sleep, By this time I was so dissappointed with her abilities and enthusiasm I agreed, and she left, reception called to make sure I was OK before they would give her the passport back, which I did think was a good thing, as if she had taken my wallet or something I could have had he stopped at reception. The final part to this tale was the Taxi ride to the airport, I decided I couldn't sleep so I went to the airport early and caught a taxi, I have driven around that part of town myself and knew instantly that he was taking me a different way, so I told him, but he didn't understand at all, and I just told him to get on with it, I watch the kms on the clock and by the time we got to the airport we had done 30 kms for a 12 km ride, so I told him to pull up at the police check point so I could report him, all of a sudden he knew I was on to him and said that no problems, and dropped me off at departures only charging me 15 million, not the 45 million on the metre.

Anyway, after my short excursion out of Istanbul I decided to go back in to Aksaray to check out Barcardi club and find out the real deal there, so one night I drive in there and go into the Club the waiter I saw before recognised me and sat me right by the dance floor. There was a good selection of Ladies and choice was the hardest part, I shortlisted it to two asian looking girls ( I thought Chinese) and eventually settled on one, who then left the dance floor and sat down, so I went to the toilets and on the way back asked her if she spoke English, and she said she did a little ( quite well actually) so I asked the waiter if he could bring her to my table, which he did, she had a drink and I had another we had a good chat and she then bought up the business aspect, and told me $200 for the night, I explained that I couldn't stay all night as I had to work the next day, so 2 to 3 hours was all I could go for, so she agreed $150 which I felt was a little expensive, but by this time I was entranced by her, she had a chinese look about her but was Russsian, and 22 years old, a body to die for and was easy to smile and laugh, so I thought well Serenda is about $50 for an hour and usually it is mechanical and they are in a rush to leave as soon as they can, so I thought 3 hours for 150 wasn't so bad if she was as good as she looked. So we left, I paid the bill 80 million, tipped the waiter and left, then 10 million to the front desk to get her coat!! and she said she knew of a hotel, so off we went and headed over towards Serenda Hotel, I was thinking that was where we were going, but it was a nice little hotel, just one block back from Serenda, and we go in, Pay 40 million and we are shown up stairs, not a bad room, the usual TV and mini bar etc ( empty but for water). Cut a long story short, she undresses and showers, and the body was unbelievable, cute arse, shaved pussy, small but irm tits, and not a stretch mark in sight, Paradise I thought, just my type, well we get on with it, no rush, pleanty of passion and feeling, already I am beginning to feel that I have had my monies worth considering my previous exploits. Then she gave me a BJ like I have never had, the wicked glint in her eye as she ran her toungue up and down my dick was something else, anyway, we sucked and fucked in most ways for about 2 hours and chatted for 1 hour, I was totally satisfied and couldn't complain about a thing, so I asked her for her Mobile as I wanted to see her again. No problem,she gave me the number and I called it there and then just to check that she wasn't fobbing me off. Off I went with a smile on my face and a spring in my step, Yesterday afternoon about 4.30 pm I called her and said I would like to see her again, and she said fine, so I met her at the same hotel at 5.30 pm, and we went up to a room and had 4 hours of just amazing fun and I even got 3 of those fanatasic BJs from her, I had her climbing the walls went I went down on her, but once again, no rush take my time, eventually I had to get back and had to leave her, reluctantly, she wanted me to stay all night but by 10 pm, I had to go, and we argeed to met again next week. She didn't even mention money until we were dressed and leaving and she asked me if I had forgotten something, I was just testing to see how pushy she was for the money, anyway, she said that it was the same as before so I paid here and walked her out to the street and left, I have to say that although not cheap I was not dissappointed at all, and was happier parting with that money to be satisfied, rather than half of it and been pissed of with what I got for it. I will be going back to see her again next week. It also means I can go and see here a a time convenient to me, not having to perform at 4 am to get my moneys worth and be so tired at work the next day.

Also I went with some friends (including a Turk) to Taksim in the centre, one night and went to a club there, we were fleeced totally, the have a great scam going there, you sit down watch the girls dance, then choose one to come over and sit with you, and then you have to buy the ladies a drink etc, we did a deal with the girls, $50 for 2 hours at their place just around the corner, stunning girls, too good to be true, of course it was, so you say OK lets go, but the say they can't leave the club until 3 am and so it you want them you have to stay and buy drinks till then. So my Turkish friend calls over the head waiter and explains that we all have to get up to work the next day and we can't wait until 3 am, he says OK fine he will give permission to go early at 2 am, it was then 1.20 am so it seemed fair, so we buy some more drinks etc, and so eventually at 2 am we ask for the bill, and are shoked at the 330 million bill for 3 of us, with girls drinking water. but pay up because we are on a promise, we head for the door and the girls say they will get their coats and meet us outside, does this sound familiar??? well the next thing we are standing outside the girls are still inside, looking for new mugs, and there are a couple of big bouncers not letting us back in to get the girls, we demand to see the manager, explain the agreement we had and he says it would be impossible as non of the girls are allowed to leave the club with clients, it is forbidden. We must have misunderstood, we explain that there could be no misunderstaning as one of us was Turkish, in short we were totally stiched up, it cost the 3 of us $220 for a couple of drinks and by that time it was too late to go to Aksaray to recover the evening. The club was called Olympia, but apparently all the clubs in Taksim operate the same way, be warned don't go there. As we drove out of Taksim square we noticed a couple of Girls, quite presentable standing on the side of the street, and in the interests of research we stopped to ask them How much etc, after my Turkish friend had discussed the price and place, they then mentioned that they were Transexuals, YEUCK, needless to say we drove home with out tails between our legs, and the only fucking that we got was financial, by Club Olympia.

That was the report - i hope you fella's found it informative. Makes me wonder why i didn't do the Bacardi Club in my trip there.

In addition i was talking to a female Turkish friend of mine whom has a relative that works in the Police force in Izmir. She was telling me that her cousin told her that there is a big problem in the City with amatuer hookers. Apparently ordinary turkish women and housewifes pick up local men and take them back to their homes (when husband is at work and kids at school) for business.

Needless to say i can't really ask her more about this - she will wonder why i am asking !

Is this true ? Does anybody have info on this ?

Hedonist
12-16-02, 21:34
Bunnyhopper, thanks for the extensive coverage. Isn't $200 for a night too expensive?

Local expert and/or stockbroker: can you let us know what one should expect to pay for a stunning Russian lady in Istanbul?

BunnyHopper
12-16-02, 23:48
Merhaba Hedonist,

Perhaps you are right but I really can't say as the report below was not my experience - i was just posting on behalf of another.

I too had imagined that $100 was the benchmark for an alnighter but on my own trip there i did not take a girl. As you have already commented, perhaps Stockbroker or Local Expert would care to shed some light on this ?

Cachondito
12-17-02, 06:00
Bunnyhopper,

Congrats man that was quite the bunnyhopping :) Though I think $200 is way too much in Turkey no matter how stunning the girls are. Former models happen to fuck for $300 in Turkey. But don't keep your hopes up about that, because your chances of finding them are tiny when you don't have good connections in the Turkish modelling world. Also, their ex boyfriends find out and report them to the police so they hardly ever stay on the market for more than a few mnths. The bottom line is: $200 is way too much. I've had a Turkish girl for $100 before, and she was the most beautiful human being I've seen in my life! So the price for the Ruskies must be lower. A matter of supply and demand you know. You should be able to get a Russian girl for $150 if she looks good enough to be worshipped, and less if she has any sort of flaw. If you live in Istanbul (which I perceive you do) try to find one of those stunners, and become a regular customer. That way you'll get lower prices. The Turkish girl I had speaks perfect English (as to what she said) and is absolutely stunning. But I'm afraid I've lost her pimp's number :-( I'll let you guys know if I happen to find it somewhere.

As for Izmirian women fucking for money, I've heard that story about Greeks of the times before the 90's. Izmir has to have a lot of Greek influence, so that might be true. Apart from all, it's the most open-minded city in Turkey so your chance of getting laid for free is also higher. I'll ask my friends who live there and let you know if they say the story has any fact in it.

Local Expert
12-17-02, 10:13
Hi Guys,

According to my expirience 200 USD is far too much, even for an "all-nighter", no matter wether the lady is of Turkish or Slavic origin. I heard of some Turkish top-class hookers in Ankara who sold their services for around 500 USD BEFORE the crisis in 1999 and 2000, but even those chicks come over to your apartment for 150 million TL now and stay the night.

The crisis has hit the entire scene in Ankara VERY hard, the prices have dropped to 80 million TL for one fuck these days and since the Ramadan (usually a no buis. month) came even on top of that, the chicks compete very hard with each other these days. About a month ago one chick, I call over on a regular basis, even offered me to be her boyfriend and stay at my house for an unlimited time; in return I had to cover her monthly expenses of about 2,5 billion TL. Not a bad deal, but not really "my cup of tea".
I doubt that the situation in Ankara is very different to the situation in Istanbul.

As I have said in my prior postings, I paid a gorgeous Moldovian chick from Serenda 100 million for an all nighter and she offered me 100 USD for 24 hours outside of the hotel. That was in 2001. I don't think that this price level has changed up to today.

My expirience with Bacardi was very bad. I went there in 2001 as well and got the feeling of a total rip off. The waiters and the prices were fair, but the chicks on the dance floor were completely out of their mind. After we called them to our table, they ordered cigarettes and other stuff on our bill and later wanted like 300 USD for an hour. We just paid our bill and left for good. In my personal idea, nothing compares to Serenda.

In summary, you will probably get confronted with very high prices by hoockers in Turkey if you are here for the first time, don't speak Turkish and look "touristy". Nevertheless, take 150 million TL as an upper limit for an all nighter. The competition is very high these days, so here is no need to pay more than that. Don't forget, this is Turkey ! When you go to the bazar in Istanbul and buy a carpet you bargain with he seller. If you want to "deflower" the carpet after with a hoocker, you bargain as well, of course :-)

Cochandito's "regular customer" thing is absolutely right. If the chick knows you, you get not only better prices, also GFE.

Regarding Izmir: I have no idea about the scene there. I went there several times but could not get any information. This is pretty akward, since NATO's Mediterranian HQ is located there, so many foreigners should be there as well. Izmirian girls are said to be very open, beautiful and willingly, but that does not mean you can pump it there with any chick. I believe this "prejudice" was born 100 years ago, by a farmer from East Turkey who saw the sea and unveiled girls for the first time in his life. In my idea, there is no difference between girls from Izmir, Istanbul and Ankara.

BunnyHopper
12-18-02, 02:14
Evening Sirs,

The report seems to have caused a bit of a stir. Honestly it is not my travel report !!

I am planning atrip at the end of next month to Istanbul and/or Ankara and as before will post a detailed account of my adventures.

Cachondito - I wish I did live in Istanbul, i think it would be a great place to live. I had breakfast one morning at a restaurant along the Bosphorus near the Dolmabache Palace - i guess i could have gotten used to doing that every morning !

Regretably I am from the cold and wet UK !

====================

Is the Demirkoy Hotel definitley closed ? Were have all the Moroccan women gone that apparently used to work the place ?

Nobody has suggested any good bars for meeting regular turkish girls ? I don't fancy stumbling into a Club Olympia type joint.

Stockbroker
12-18-02, 04:14
Hi guys..
100 dolar..well it depends on how often you visit the usual place.
if you are a good customer to the bar sometimes 100 dolar is enough to pick a stunning lady.
But for an ordinary customer 150 is an average for a beauty.
But i witnessed that if girl likes you price is getting lower.
and it depends what time you go to hunting,at weekends ,prices are always high.So prefer week days .And always bargain to faint
if the place is not full that night you can shoot a model look russian lady..

About stunning Turkish ladies..forget about Turkish ladies guys.
you must be living here to find a gorgeus lady because they dont like one night stands.
But if you pay for a Turkish hooker than you are a dumb.Because the beutiful ones are realy miss universe but cost a fortune,the others are too risky..and ugly.
We Turks are even hunting with ruskies.

stockbroker

Local Expert
12-18-02, 12:45
Bunnyhopper !

If you wanna meet regular Turkish girls, you may want to visit places in "Etiler" like the "Sherlock Holmes" or the "The Lane's" next to it. Many foreigners hang around there and the local girls are more up to it than they would be in other bars.

Have fun

Tekityzi
12-19-02, 02:26
Good evening,

Yyaisss, Demirkoy hotel still exists and is open ! I went there a couple of weeks before, but it was during the ramadan... and there was only 5 or 6 girls there. The place is really quiet and discreet (you could imagine it's just a motel, and you must ask for the disco to find the entrance). Entrance fee is 12MTL, room 45MTL and the girl I met a bit expensive (200$). But she was nice and horny and enjoyed speaking also. The girls there where young between 23-28 but I cannot tell you if it was Moroccan or not, need to go another time to check this point ;o)

I just arrived in Istanbul several months ago and I don't know many places and have no phone n° to call. I am very interested in learning anything that could help me hunting more and more quality (tekit.yzi@caramail.com). Thanks in advance.

have fun, enjoy yourself



Originally posted by BunnyHopper
Evening Sirs,

The report seems to have caused a bit of a stir. Honestly it is not my travel report !!

I am planning atrip at the end of next month to Istanbul and/or Ankara and as before will post a detailed account of my adventures.

Cachondito - I wish I did live in Istanbul, i think it would be a great place to live. I had breakfast one morning at a restaurant along the Bosphorus near the Dolmabache Palace - i guess i could have gotten used to doing that every morning !

Regretably I am from the cold and wet UK !

====================

Is the Demirkoy Hotel definitley closed ? Were have all the Moroccan women gone that apparently used to work the place ?

Nobody has suggested any good bars for meeting regular turkish girls ? I don't fancy stumbling into a Club Olympia type joint.

king2000
12-21-02, 18:23
Hi,Cossack,

could you please send me the tel number of some escort agencies in istanbul, i will travel there soon,

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

jouyenjosas8@netscape.net

king2000
12-21-02, 23:41
can some experts offer us some information about erotic sauna and massage service in Istanbul, tel number or address, thank you in advance!

Sex Quest
01-12-03, 18:19
Hio Cossack,

I'll be going to Istanbul next week, and I wonder if you could send me the number of the Russian Madame, and an appraisal of your experiences lately and the total cost. I havent been to Istanbul before, but i'd guess it would be easier than the usual bar pick up joints.
Thanks man

fneekers@yahoo.com

BunnyHopper
01-15-03, 00:27
Local Expert & Istanbul Stockbroker can i have your email address ?

Or if you don't want to post it here please send an email to my account wsg_1000@yahoo.co.uk

Banana Joe
01-15-03, 17:25
One anonymous hint about a russian madame, dozens of people asking for her mobile #, a couple of stories about scams and on top of this someone still claiming that Istanbul is a great destination for sex!

C'mon buddies, Turkey is a no no destination for mongers, like I have already told you. Spare the bucks and head in Romania, Unghary, Ukraine or wherever (islam free) comes to your mind: you'll halve the budget and double the fun.

Just my 2 cents,
Banana Joe

Hedonist
01-15-03, 21:30
Turkey is a fascinating country and Istanbul is amazing. But BananaJoe is right, it is not a good city for the hobby. In Istanbul probably there are no escort agencies or massage parlors. Even if there are the information never gets public. So, please spare those messages asking for massage parlors, escort agencies etc.

There are only a few Turkish hookers, and your chances of getting one is very slim.

I personally didn't like the word "Islam-free". Whoever uses this phrase doesn't know Turks and Turkey good enough. A Turk migth go to mosque on Friday, get together with his buddies in a pub on Saturday night to drink like hell and maybe to hunt some pussy in Laleli area.

Your best bet to hunt for pussy is Laleli area. But it is quite risky for somebody who doesn't know how to play the game. Read the earlier messages posted here.

In short, don't go to Turkey for sex.

Banana Joe
01-15-03, 23:41
I'm not against islam per se, and maybe my limited english have not done a good job describing what I think.

I know very well that Turks are muslism in a much more relaxed way than Saudis, for example. Ataturk have drawn a clear path (secularism) for Turkey.
Anyway, it's straightforward that Turkey, North Africa and Middle East are areas not very well suited for mongers. Coincidentally (?) in all of those areas islam play a big role.
So I'll go to Turkey for turism, for the ospitality, for sightseeing ... but not for mongering!


Happy hunting,
Banana Joe

Local Expert
01-16-03, 10:45
Guys !

Only an idiot would go to Turkey just for the reason of finding hoockers. Turkey is not a country for sex tourism, there are better ones (just check the amazing reports in the Buenos Aires section).

But if you live here or are on a buissiness trip, Istanbul (and Ankara) do have the neccessary facilities for pleasure. If you solely look for Turkish *****s, you will be better off in Ankara than in Istanbul.

Most the hoockers I saw in Serenda were worth it and did make me enjoy my stay. In comparison to Spain and Portugal (where I stayed 10 years ago for several weeks), the prices and the quality of the hoockers in Istanbul was better.

So, of course you go to the Eastern Block countries if you are planning a sex holiday, but if you stay in Istanbul, there is no reason to cry :-)

Local Expert
01-17-03, 12:50
I just found this report on "http://www.*************.com/guide/Asia/Turkey/". Sounds interesting. Can anyone give a comment on this "Big Pub" ? :

"The area of Istanbul to head for to get your hole is called Aksaray. The place is full of prostitutes but they hang out in bars and discos and not on the street. 95% of them are Russian, but if your image of the typical Russian woman is blond, busty and overweight, you may be in for a pleasant surprise. Some of the women do fit the above description, but many are from the central Asian republics, are slim with exotic feaures, and speak a language close to Turkish.
I found myself in the area by sheer chance and noticed that there were a lot of bars and basement discos where men were standing outside and you couldn't see in through the window - always a good sign if you are prepared to be adventurous. The place I would thoroughly recommend is called Big Pub, on one of the main streets near traffic lights, the address is Mustafa Kemal Cad. No. 19. When you go in, sit anywhere you want, it doesn't matter if you share a table with others. Expect to be the only westerner there.

The women usually sit at tables in groups of 4 staring at their mobile phones and occasionally getting up to dance. The music is Turkish disco and occasionally live when a singer or belly dancer appears from nowhere and comes round the tables asking for song requests. To talk to a girl, you can try and make eye contact and beckon them over to your table, or boldly walk up to them. Another method is to buy a rose for a nominal amount from one of the waiters carrying them and he will give it to the girl of your choice who should then walk over to where you are seated.

Drinks are only $3 each, you can get for example a draft beer or a glass of raki, a colourless aniseed spirit like ouzo or pernod, strong and rough.Very few of the waiters speak any English and the girls even less, but when it comes to money they will find the words. Expect to be asked for $100 short time which you should be able to knock down to $70 or even $50 if you are lucky. The women range in age from 18 to about 50 but on the whole they are in their 20s and attractive. The best time to arrive is about 9.30p.m. and the place peaks between 10 and 11. After that, the girls drift off to other locations, notably discos which are open till 4a.m.and more expensive.

Avoid the Mogul Disco which is down a side street near the Big Pub. Your first drink will cost $30-$40 which includes 3 small plates of fruit and a bit of cheese. "

Fneekers
01-27-03, 15:43
Hi all,

If one wants to have some action in the late mornings or early afternoons in Istanbul where should one go?
Any suggestions

BunnyHopper
02-08-03, 22:31
I just got back from another trip to Istanbul.

I rotated my hunting between the Bacardi Club, Serenda Hotel and regular bars.

Serenda is the same as usual. But prices seem to have changed. The going rate seems to be $50 for 2 shots or $100 for an all-nighter. The drink prices are the same 4 million for a coke, and my English-speaking waiter friend is still working there. The room cost seemed to vary between 40-50 million. I couldn’t suss out a pattern ?!?!?!? Also still the 15 million entry fee (12 million on Sundays) the fee still includes the first drink for free.

This time I struck up conversations in a mix of broken English and Turkish with the other guys that would be seated at my table – Turks are a decent bunch and are very keen to chat. They kept inviting me to drink Raki !! Some off the guys offered me a girl swap. 3 girls, 3 guys, 3 adjacent rooms – when you get bored of yours you go next door and swap !! Nice idea but I did not feel upto it – I had no doubts that it was safe to do so though !!! (One of the girls I had confirmed to me that this does really happen – I guess Turks love a good party !!) (You don’t get your own table, you share with others). Many of the same girls there as before – some even remembered me !!. Also the same old man at the cash register, he remembered me too - he had the same look on his face as my father used have when I was a naughty lad ! All girls have a mobile phone, if you like her ask for the number. Again, same problem with Romanian girls not doing BJ, but I was able to find a great girl from Moldavia that did the deed for me !!

This time checked out the Bacardi club on two nights. The going rate seems to be $150-$200 for an all-nighter. What happened to the $100 all-nighter rates. These girls look better than those at Serenda, but $150-$200 seems to take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140); regardless I paid the asking rate and could not be bothered to haggle. The two girls I had both came back to my hotel in Tepebasi area close to Istiklal Caddesi - I was staying in a double room. They did BJ, one did covered and the other uncovered. One of these girls also had breast implants !!!! Amazing feeeeeeeeeeelling - quite literally !!!

No entry fee to Bacardi (but you do get frisked as you walk in {same as Serenda}). Drinks are expensive. I think 20 million for coke. On one night I had two cokes and the girl I was with had one OJ and cost me 80 million total the other night the same cost me 60 million ?!?!?

I also noticed at that often in the Bacardi one girl would leave with a group of between 2 – 4 guys. Gangbangers I wonder ???

A girl at the Bacardi said it is OK to go on the dance floor and talk to the girl whilst you are there – ask if they do those things you want ! Then invite her to your table for a drink and chat. {IN BOTH CLUBS YOU MUST NOT TALK TO THE GIRLS OFF THE FLOOR}. But in Bacardi if you see a girl you like, call the first waiter that walks past you and point to the girl and he will call here. I think there is at least one waiter that speaks English in Bacardi. I had to tip him 10 million when I got the girl and we decided to leave. I also had to tip the cloakroom attendant 10 million for the girl’s coat and then another 5 million tip to the guy outside for just flagging a cab down. I guess you must consider these a necessary expense.

I got to a point were some nights it was easier to get a cab to Bacardi (as it is on a main road) and walk to Serenda as I became familiar with the streets. And on other nights I found myself giving the cab driver directions to where I wanted to go to !!!!!!!!!
Cab fare should be 5 million from Tepebasi to Aksaray – anything more and you have been had.
I did see the “Big Pub” it is close to Bacardi. As you come out of Bacardi, turn right. After about 10 yard to get to a junction (you would turn down it to get to Serenda) walk straight over. After about a further 10 yards you are there. They are basically on the same road. I also saw the “Mogul Bar” – did not go in. You walk past it as you walk from Bacardi to Serenda.

Guys trying to get you into bars/clubs will stop you in this area. My trick was to talk to them and when they mentioned “girl/madam”, I would look shocked and offended and walk off. It worked every time. !

I tried to arrange to meet 3 other posters from the WSG but I only managed to arrange a meeting with one. After meeting at the James Joyce and having a beer and a chat we then hit Serenda one night. My friend’s comment was “”Rip Off Turkey””. As we pulled up in his car close to Serenda, the parking attendant from Serenda tried to charge us for parking on a public road !!!! Anyway we went inside, had a drink and he left with his chosen on.

I went shopping in Nisantasi and I got to the spot were Nadide & Enjoy is. From my last rip I remember that there used to be a sign outside the passageway. As that sin is now gone I did not enter. The street was busy with shoppers and I felt very self-conscious.

On other nights I went out with some female Turkish friends that live in Istanbul and we did the bars in Taksim and Istiklal Cad. Went to Hayal Kaveshi, Mojo, the familiar James Joyce Pub and some other places I was too drunk to remember. Again Turkish girls are spectacular !! I think in Istanbul, the youth culture revolves around live music – I am a young guy, but I look even younger than I really am !!
Istiklal and Taksim Square is alive in the evening. Lots of cafes, bars, restaurants and packed with people !!

I also did the tourist thing whilst I was there and went to the other places that I did not visit on my last trip. I was also braver and explored more of the City whilst I was unaccompanied, going on the Ferries, Metro, Tunel and Dolmus (growing increasingly sick of rip-off taxis). The Blue Mosque was awesome (perhaps because my heritage is Islamic).

No_Commit
03-07-03, 07:19
I was in Istanbul only for 5 hours transiting from Moscow to Singapore last month and wanted to post my FR.

I went to a restaurant in Laleli upon a recommendation. I don't recall the name of the place but it was one of the few located in a small street parallel to the main one and it was for pedestrians only. The place looks like a legit restaurant and serves meals but there are a few girls (ex-Soviet) sitting around. I asked a 23 year old blond to join me. We had an early dinner together and arranged to go to a nearby hotel. The restaurant bill was about 50 mil (about USD 30) including meal for 2, my drink and tips for the waiters. Go easy on the tips because once you give to one, every Tom, Dick and Harry opens their hands. However, I believe that tipping is unavoidable and fair.
The girl's name was Natasha and she was from Moldova. She was not very tall and a 7 or an 8 out of 10. But the service was definitely 9/10. We went to a nearby hotel and registered. To my surprise, she registered with her marriage certificate with some Turkish chap. We spent the next 3 hours together. After an essential shower, she gave me a complete GFE and we were all over each other. She gave me a BBBJ and FS twice. I have to admit I am looking forward to be in Istanbul again. We did not talk about money until we were finished. She asked me USD 50 and I paid her 80. I believe I still got an excellent service out of it.
I hope the above is useful for some of you.

Happy hunting

Stockbroker
03-08-03, 02:50
Bacardi is alive guys....
Last day me and a friend of mine went Bacardi..
there were a lots of stunning girls.My friend invite a long legged blonde to table..she asked 150 dolars for whole night..she was very friendly..
And tomorrow when we talked on the phone with my friend he told that she was superb.
We had 3 whiskies, a cup of coffe and a drink for girl and paid 70 million (45 usd) plus 10 million tip on table..
next week i will be hunting for myself this time..

bye

stockbroker

Novice
03-18-03, 22:42
Hi guys,

Glad to hear that Bacardi is alive, I am rather new to this activity and would appreciate some advice greatly. How early in the day is it possible to get some action at Bacardi Place and has anyone got any info on the Russian ladies web site called "Sylvia" or on this mythical Russian madame.

I recently paid a visit to Nadide, and it was terrible, quality around 3-4 and do not waste your time there; I walked out.

I wish everybody a good time.

Connect 28
04-03-03, 20:17
Local expert and/or stockbrocker,

Since you guys know the local scene I read on the web that there are some web based operations especially in Istanbul with membership that shows you a portfolio of girls you can chose from. Are you aware of such sites and if yes could you give me some info. If you do prefer to send it privately my e-mail is connect_28@yahoo.com I will be in Istanbul next week with very limited free time. Instead of going to bacardi or seranda this would be a quicker alternative.

Thanks in advance

Local Expert
04-04-03, 08:20
connect_28:

I have heard about such a webpage which is hosted by a Russian madame. They say that the URL changes monthly and that you need a password to get in.

Now, I have just HEARD about it so I cannot give you any details. I will be in Istanbul in May for a week, so I will try to find out more info.

Connect 28
04-04-03, 12:03
I am looking forward to hear.

Thanks!

Novice
04-06-03, 11:25
One of the sites I have recently found, but never used is called istanbul secrets, its web is www.istanbulsecrets.homestead.com, and it prices are very very high, around 800 us dollars for an hour. It looks like a rip off, but may be of interest to sb who is travelling on company money.

I am sure there must be other web based services, operating out of Russia or Ukraine, it would be nice to find them/ use them.

Connect 28
04-07-03, 00:19
Novice, thanks for the info. However I don't think nowadays any company can afford a $800 treat to his employees, at the not the one I am working for. If anybody has any other sites please let me know.

Dirty Dog
04-16-03, 23:04
Yeah i've spent some time in Istanbul and while i was there i checked out a few places cant remeber the names but this one place a guy asked if we wanted a gurl and he said 20$ for gurl and asked us to follow him and he lead us to a place full of some very hot younge gurls looked mostly russian not sure though. But they would ask us to buy a drink for them but if u do it would cost like 10 to 20 us dollars and I talked to the guy that ran the place and he said it would be 300 US to take a gurl for the night. I had to reject that offer I aint never paid that much..LOL and i spoke to one of the locals and they said it should have cost way less. I aint to sure what the going prices are in this place..

I also went by the GENERAL HOUSE it had cops standing near a medal detector and they would ask for ID. Tried to go in but they didnt let me.. Dont know why? was it because i was American?? I dont know? Is it only for Turkish people to play?? Well if some one would provide us with some helpfull info it would be very appreciated.

Cachondito
04-24-03, 22:23
Dirty dog,

It's not quite logical to be denied entry to a brothel just because you're American or because you're a foreigner. Most likely those cops figured you had shitloads of money and wanted to be bribed. Or they were too naive and they thought you were at the wrong place :-) But believe me it's a good thing you were denied entry because those government-approved brothels are literally shit. Also I strongly doubt you would find any English speaking girls there.

About the $300 thingy, that's insane. That could only be because you don't speak Turkish. If you hang out with someone who speaks Turkish or with a Turkish fellow, chances are you'll pay half of that. I'm planning to be in Istanbul for some time in the summer and I do know some private escorts. So if you're there at that time I would be glad to help you once I find the phone numbers of those girls. I'm not sure I can find them again so don't take this as a promise. But I'll try my best. Follow this thread and I'll let you (and other people for that matter) know if I can arrange something.

Zeybek
05-11-03, 23:30
Hello Friends.

I will be in Ankara in August, and I mean to check out every single place discussed here. When I return, I will give you a very complete analysis of all these places. I must say, this will be an exhausting task. In the meantime, if you have any special things you need to make me aware of, I will appreciate that.

Local Expert
05-22-03, 07:38
In search of the "secret" and "mysterious" website, I might have found something:

http://www.ilaydaajans.cjb.net

Has any of your guys ever made experience with this "agency" ? Is it scam or real ?

Connect 28
05-22-03, 21:22
I also heard a site called www.orospubul.com Does anybody have any experience with these guys?

Hedonist
05-23-03, 16:14
I have no idea if it is a scam or not. But the girls are definitely not Turkish. Many of them looked Russian/Ukranian to me.

Connect 28
05-23-03, 22:29
local expert.

I called up the number on the site. No answer. I'll be in Istanbul next week. If anybody has any new places/girls suggestions welcome.

Local Expert
05-26-03, 10:05
I have posted the same question about the "mysterious website" on another discussion board. These are the answers I received:

1) WWW.TURKESCORT.COM is also WWW.ILAYDAAJANS.CJB.NET This service a SCAMM Beware!!!! They are no secret and have been busted in the past Do not give them ant personal info unless you want it viewed by everyone in Turkey including the polis The phones are taped and recorded Any service with taht many pictures of working girls is a Fake You are much better off going to the Laleli in Istanbul or one of the hostess bars in your city.

2) Check this out with a little research I found out that Turkescort.com is also www.ilaydaajans.cbj.net and all of the pictures on their site of the "escorts" can be found at http://www.blonde-russian-women.net a russian site for dating and marriage so it must be a scam the owner of the site is Eray Gemici his address is listed as Ebuziya cad. Kayaci Sok dilara apt 4/12 bakirkoy. I don't know if it's a trap set up by law enforcement or just a scam! Anyone have any info

Seems to be scam, then....

Connect 28
05-26-03, 12:50
Local expert, you are truely an expert. Thanks for the info. I guess Seranda is still the safest bet in Istanbul.

Local Expert
05-27-03, 07:36
Connect_28:

I am honored :-)))
You seem to be perfectly right about Serenda. It is the easiest and cheapest way to screw chicks with a photomodel-like appereance.

Hedonist
05-28-03, 21:47
Model like appearance would be a slight exaggeration for many of those Moldavian and Romanian girls.

Connect 28
05-28-03, 23:01
The trouble with Seranda is that most of the girls do not do BJ and the ones that are willing to do are mostly the ugly ones. If one could solve that problem then Seranda would be a good value for the money in true sense.

Local Expert
05-29-03, 07:11
Hedonist:

Ok, since we are supposed to give OBJECTIVE information on this board, I will agree with you.
For MY part though, I thought most of the chicks in Serenda were great.

Hedonist
05-29-03, 16:12
localexpert:

You are doing a great job about informing us about the Istanbul scene. Please don't take me wrong. There were definitely very beautiful girls at Seranda. But their attitudes were no good. I had 3-4 girls there. One of them was a true GFE. But the with other girls sex was very mechanical, I honestly didn't enjoy it. But I agree with you, Seranda is probably the best to get laid in Istanbul for a foreigner.

Local Expert
05-30-03, 07:05
Hedonist:

Come on, why should I take you wrong ? You were right in your last post, and I aggreed with you !
You said that Serenda is about the best place for a FOREIGNER to get laid. Well, for that pricelevel I can't imagine any other place in Istanbul to get laid. All the other place referred to on this board were both "problematic" and expensive.

Connect 28:

Well, I have not been to Serenda VERY often, as I don't live in Istanbul, but whenever I had been there, I got an uncovered BJ. "Anal" was what they didn't do, but kissing and sucking was no problem. GFE was always the case and I am planning to go there in the last week of June again and will then write an update.
Since there are about 50 - 70 girls in Serenda, the chance to get a "boring" one is as high as getting a "good" one.

To All:

According to my research there seems to be NO website advertising chicks for "home-delivery" in TURKEY. To be honest, I would actually be seriously surprised if someone comes up with a real "NO-SPAM" website. Such an organisation of the scene as you have e.g. in Buenos Aires doesn't fit the scene here.

SkmSteve
06-01-03, 20:25
Hi all

I will be in Istanbul in two weeks time. Any up-to date info would help. Which hotels are good to avoid problems bringing girls back (I was thinking of the intercontinental)? Where can I go to find some Russian girls?

Thanks in advance

Steve

SkmSteve
06-01-03, 20:48
Hi Cossack.

Any info you can give on Instanbul would be of help. I have never been with a Russian girl, so your contact for the madam would be useful if you don't mind.

Here my e-mail if you get time send2mat@hotmail.com

Stockbroker
06-01-03, 23:44
www.istanbulsecrets.homestead.com

i guess worth to check.

Local Expert
06-02-03, 08:15
Stockbroker:

Come on... 300 USd per hour does not sound really convincing if can have 24 hours for 100 USD with a Seranda girl.
Also why do they want to have your full name, age and nationality in an introduction email ?
I would be careful with that site......

Cossack
06-02-03, 18:33
To skmsteve.

Any advise I can give you is already posted on this board. As most guys have stated, the best place for a foreigner to find the honies is going to be SERANDA. This is only because it is easier and straight forward. I personally do not like the place even though it is loaded with babes. Reason, it is the embodiment of meat market, and most of the girls are truly the embodiment of MECHANICAL. As far as that famous madame, I do not give her # out on the board for her safety, and unfortunately the few guys I have given it too by email have proven to be assholes, either to her or to her girls. One thing I will tel you is that if you are not shy and can stirke up a conversation easily, try going out to an early dinner at one of the 100s of restaurants in and around Laleli, and see how lucky you are.

Be safe!

Cossack
06-02-03, 18:54
Almost forgot,

I tried out the club Europa about 2 months ago (I know its late but I have been busy guys!). Located in Laleli the first street on the right when you go under the railiroad over pass from Yenikapi to Laleli. It is known and anyone can point it out to you. Don't let the stairs going down to the club scare you off, it is safe. I went there 3 times during that period and this is what I think. The management is very professional (ask for Kemal or the owner Sezal), the drinks prices are reasonable (printed menu - ask for the one in Turkish, prices are in TL and seemed cheaper= and Johnnie Walker is written the same in Turkish so you guys shouldn't have problems deciphering it), and the girls are just as good as Seranda (how could he forget you say...as I said I was very busy), and to top it off, it trys to be a real club where you can dance, talk, and meeet the girls. Again, the best thing to do is go late, after 1030 PM, get seated, order your drink, then start looking for what you want. Prices for the girls are the standard $100, though some of the girls were asking for Euros. Please do not F... it up for us all and pay the initial $150-$200 asking price. Remeber, you will leave there late, and she will try to leave there early, so pay for what you get. My preference is alwys the Russian girls for all out sex, I am just fed up of the Romanians, Turkish, and others saying they do not do this that and the other! I cannot put my fingers on their phone # right now but when I do, I post that too.

When I just re read this it sounded like a damn ad.....it isn't though, just sharing the knowledge with the brotherhood :)

Be safe,
COSSAK

Cossack
06-02-03, 20:27
TO stockbroker or localexpert:

I got some mail from one of you last week, but due to the slow down of internet services in Turkey over the last 10/12 days, I lost it. Whoever it was of you that sent me the mail please send it again. Thanks!

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

SkmSteve
06-02-03, 22:18
Hi Cossack.

Thanks for the info, I will give it a go. Do you have any info on the city of Bursa.

Thanks for now.

Steve

EDITOR's NOTE: I took a few minutes to revise the capitalization and punctuation in this report. However, I would very much appreciate it if everyone could refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

Connect 28
06-02-03, 22:24
Cossack,

Thanks for the info, very useful. I will try Europa when I am next in Istanbul, which should be in couple of weeks time. I have the same problem with the Romanians. They do not want to do BJ, covered or uncovered. Is there any hotel that you use in Aksaray, which is at least clean, since I need to take the girl to a hotel after Europa. Is $100 for 2 hours or all night?

If you feel like giving out the Russian madames # please e-mail it to connect_28@yahoo.com I promise I will not pass it to other people. Are her girls better value than the girls in Seranda or Europa?

Regarding www.istanbulsecrets.homestead.com I think we should be diciplined and not overpay. I have been to many European cities but never paid more than $125 per hour anywhere. I think $300 is really streching it.

connect_28

Local Expert
06-03-03, 11:18
Cossack:

It wasn't me with the email.

Are the "standard" 100 USD for one srew or for the night with he girls in "Club Europa" ? What about hotels ? Do the girl have hotels to go to or can you take them to your hotel ?

Cossack
06-03-03, 17:15
hey localexpert,

Thanx for your reply! Sorry I should have been more specific regarding the Europa, everytime I got a girl from there, it was $100 for the night. They want more as I said, but that is just the usual pazar bagaining tactics all the girls in Turkey are into these days. You really should not pay any more than that! A few nights ago I was hooked up with a TOTAL stunner from the Czech republic, dinner+dancing+doggy, as they say, and it cost me $150 for her plus, and I mean she was STUNNING like Playboy Stunning. So if you take that as a standard, then $100 for your regular disco babe is relly top $. As I keep saying, do not pay more and F it for all of us PLEASE.

As far as hotels and so on are concerned, what I have done is to rent a fully furnished studio apartment in Atakoy and I don't have the hassles of hotels, passports, etc. If you are local, or in Ist for more than 1 week at a time regularly, it makes more sense. I pay TL 300 mill for the month ($200 more or less), and when you consider a one night hotel being TL 45 to 80, then it makes sense to me. Also, I find that the girls are more willing to extend their stay until well into the following afternoon with me that way, nothing better than sex as a brunch dessert :p

I found the # for Europa +90212-518-1923. Make sure you get there latest by midnight cause the girls fly in and fly out fast! Also forgot to mention that they close at 6AM, so for all you who want to extend the partying, go there after SERANDA!!

That all for now fellas

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

Stockbroker
06-04-03, 00:41
it was not me who send the e-mail..
i didnt post no private e mail in this forum..

Any news about Bacardi..i havent been there for a long time..
i have heard about Europa ,i will try it soon..

Cossack
06-04-03, 22:55
Sorry skmsteve and connect 28 didn't answer you guys!

connect - As far as clean hotels in Aksaray, they are all pretty much the same dumps if you are going there at 4 am and taking a girl with you...that is why I have my little studio apt. As far as that # goes, I promised her not to give out her new #, Sorry! Also I researched that web site and I can tell you it is 100% scam/fishing bait. PLEASE for you that live in the US call the young lady "Cindy" in NY, talk to her, and you will see that she is merely a long distance fromt for some scam artist pimp here in Ist, who will then deliver a regular $100 girl to you and charge those RIDICULOUSLY high prices. Do it and see, I did it from here just out of curiosity, and that is my take on the deal.

skmsteve - I go to Bursa for business at least 3/4 times a month and all I can tell you is that all the guys from there come here to Ist for the pussy. It is a small town, but I am sure that if you look hard enough, you will find something, but will it be worth the effort when all you have to do is dive 30min from Bursa to Yalova, then hop on the fast ferryboat to Ist (45 min) that then drops you off in Yenikapi which is 10 min walk from Laleli and Aksaray. I am almost 100% sure that the time to find a decent working girl in Bursa will be more than talking the trip back to Ist!


stockbroker- I will be going to Europa on Fri or Sat, if you are around I'll see you there. Haven't been there in 2/3 months and need to do further "research" to see if they are keeping up the standards :p

Thats all for now guys


Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

No_Commit
06-07-03, 05:19
I will be in Istanbul on the 28th of June for just a night on transit (just for mongering purposes) and planning to stay at around Laleli area instead of my usual hotel in Taxim (any suggestions?), hoping to find my Moldavian if she is still around or alternatively visit Seranda for new pleasures.
Serenda is actually a hotel, isn't it? Do they have a web site for making reservations and checking out the rooms? Although it provides convenience, I don't fancy staying in a below par hotel either. I am half tempted to stay at Vatan Asur around the same area having seen their web page. Reasonable rate (USD 50) and free to/fro airport transfers. Does anyone know if they are "guest-friendly"?
I was wondering if any of the Istanbul forum mongers would be in town for a cold Efes (or raki).
NC

Stockbroker
06-10-03, 12:50
Hey no commit..
try "Akgün Otel" at Topkapi.it s a five star otel and they are okay with "guests".
5 min.to Aksaray by cap..

Hedonist
06-10-03, 22:48
You can stay overnight at Seranda if you like. The current price is ~$30/night.

Cossack: Did you go to club Europa alone?

Cossack
06-13-03, 21:21
Hello Fellas!

Been busy for a few days! First to answer Hedonist, no I was too busy to go to Europa and to nocommit, I’m in town on the 28th, so lets figure out how to get in touch and lets enjoy a warm summer Istanbul evening in the company of some cute girls!

Now for my report. As I said, I couldn’t go and party on the weekend due to last minute business on th weekend. I told a buddy of mine and he decided to take me out for a treat on Wed. This place is about 45 min from Aksaray (if you drive like an Istanbulite!) past a small town called Kumburgaz. Basically picture a walled compound with a huge luxury villa right in the middle, with a pool outside. We get there; go thru the gates, with security guard and all. Leave our car with the valet, and walk into the entrance hall, and what do we see…20 to 30 GORGEOUS GIRLS dressed to kill!
We get ushered into what is the middle of the house and it set up like a ding/dancing/bar. After sitting down, and ordering drinks and mezze, the maitre’d came over and asked us if we saw any particular girl we wanted to sit with us. I wanted to make sure that if I didn’t like the attitude of the girl I picked, I could change. My friend assured me that I could, so I went with a cutie, who eventually woke up next to me the next morning. I want to say that these girls are mostly from Eastern Europe, with a few Turkish girls in the mix. BUT they are not your run of the mill Aksaray girls…their attitude, both in public and private is MUCH better, and overall they seem to be better of or manicured so to speak. The best part of the whole experience was that the entire evening was extremely relaxed and it never felt like an outing to the local henhouse. There were not more than 15 guys/customers there, so that made the ratio of girls to guys 2/1 but if that seems low, believe me the “ugliest” girl in the house would rate an 8 on most sane men’s scale. All the rooms are on two floors above the dining area, and all have full baths, double beds, sat TV, mini bar, and a sofa.

I found out the next morning that the whole thing cost my buddy $165 (each) all included from 8PM to 11 AM Thurs morning. What a bargain!!! Great food, no limits on how much alchohol you consume, decent live Turkish music until 12, then club music to 3 AM, and (at least for me) awesome no limits sex, all without hassles. Of course I asked him if I could go back on my own, and apparently once you have been there once, you can go back anytime. For those who have never been there, you need to call them and give them the name and # of a person who has recommended them to you, and after checking out the info you gave them, they call you back and off you go!

Now for those of us who live here, or stay here for extended periods, this is a great break from the routine!! For all y’all that just pass thru, I don’t know!! I asked what a cab would cost from downtown to this place, and most people just said A LOT! But if you can drive, or have someone who can drive you there, it is worth it. I asked if I could share the info on this FORUM and the manager (?) said sure, but not to give any Tel# or address on the forum only by email. So if you want to go visiting, drop me you email, and ENJOY.

That is all for now, keep this section of the forum alive people, it is summer in Istanbul, and no one seems to be doing anything.

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

No_Commit
06-14-03, 04:30
Nice FR. Enticing enough to make me wish I could stay longer in Istanbul. But arriving at around 8 am'ish in the morning and leaving at 8 am the next. Please contact me via email (no_commit@hotmail.com) to arrange the details of the summer evening I am so much looking forward to.
Should I stay at Seranda itself? I am tempted to stay at Holiday Inn at Atakoy as they have a promotion for USD 51++. What would you recommend? I hope we can have a good time that Saturday night. I am tempted to visit Europa club as well. Eyeing a girl and going up to a dance floor in Seranda does not attract me much. I always prefer having a friendly chat to gauge if she will offer a GFE. Please have a look at my previous FR on a Moldovian I met in a restaurant in Laleli during my last stop over in Istanbul. I am 35 and have a sense of humour. You can be sure I won't bore you to death.

TO Stockbroker:
I have checked Akgun Hotel's webpage but there is no info on rates. I also sent an email to Asur Hotel (the one I had selected on the web) asking about their "guest" policy. Let's see how they will reply.

NC

yaks87
06-14-03, 13:24
Hi cossack.Would you please contact to me about the details of
the place you've just discovered?yaks87@hotmail.com

Local Expert
06-16-03, 08:04
Hi Cossack,
the same counts for me. Could you please contact me as well and give me the details of the club you mentioned below. localexpert123@hotmail.com
Thanks

Cossack
06-16-03, 20:22
Hello guys,

To local and yak, I will get that info, the exact driving directions for you dudes from my buddy. The place is not a club, and you HAVE to call b4 you go there to book. It will be Wed b4 I can get to that though, not to late for the weekend!!!! Ck your email.

No commit, if I were to decide, I would stay at the Inn Atakoy. $51 for 5stars is a deal, and when you bring a lady back, they will not say a thing! It is a TL 10 mill taxi ride to Aksaray, I would rather stay at a decent place and spend the cab money than stay at the dumps around Aksaray/Laleli! We will definitely hook up, and I will be writing you an email later.


Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

No_Commit
06-17-03, 08:01
I am already booked at Holiday Inn Atakoy (I can almost crawl to the airport the next morning LOL) which conveniently should be shooting distance from Demirkoy Hotel. Has anyone been there recently? Is it still operational?

BTW, my planned trip is growing arms and legs. I will be back in Istanbul on the 11th of July and then will spend 2 days in Ankara after that.

Local Expert, you were from Ankara, weren't you? If you care to contact me, my email is no_commit@hotmail.com

T-10 days and counting!!!!

NC

Cossack
06-19-03, 23:04
Hey Fellas,

NoC, whats up with your mail add??? clear out the old junk!!! To Local and Yak, I have been on the horn to my arkadas and he is kayip. Ck your mail for my contact # and I will try to get the info by tomm (Fri) to you at least by phone.

To all the others....I was sitting here sipping raki and I thought that it would be fun to set up a "Lets all meet in Istanbul thhis summer" weekend. A "few" guys mongering and partying should be fun ......what do you guys think? Sometime in mid July was what I was thinking about. You too Gabnal!! wherever the hell you are!!

Lets have a poll and only you guys who are SERIOUS put your thoughts forward. Thats all for now


Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

Cossack
06-19-03, 23:17
I forgot...NoC Demirkoy is still open, and I was there on Wed, you know bored and just drove in for a drink. The quality has gone down a bit since last summer, but I picked up a hottie called Daniela from Romania, and had a good time for all! Not the best in the looks (5/6 with nice firm tits and a ROOOUUUUND ass). Unlike all our fellow posters, me included, this girl does it all and happily. I would dare to say that she is one of the few girls who ENJOY their work, and as I said even though she ain't the hottest tamale in town, she is worth EVERY penny, I got her # and asked hr if I could post it...of course she as any other sane business person is up for free advertisement!!!! So here it is, +90-533-244-6076. When y'all call tell her you got her # from her friend in Kemerburgaz..me! That's all

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

PS what is up with ALL you guys I meet while mongering? You are all just lurking about reading but not contributing! Lets us tell our fellow sickos how good Istanbul REALLY is! Get a name, password, and wirte in you assholes!

Later!

Connect 28
06-19-03, 23:54
I will be in Istanbul second week of July. If there is any get together I might be there.

Cossack how much did Daniela cost? Does she do anal?

Thanks for the info

connect

No_Commit
06-20-03, 03:59
Got my tickets this morning. All systems are go!

Cossack,
Thanks for all the trouble and effort for contacting me. I really don't know what happened but my email should have been operational. Anyway, got your contact and will call you when I am in Bul. As for the overall get-together you are proposing mid July, I will be in Istanbul again on my way back on the 11th of July. So if the monger meeting coincides with that day, I would be more than happy to join in.

M.U.:
I received another email from someone else earlier today with the name initials M.U. Could it be another forum member?

Cheers,
NC

Local Expert
06-20-03, 08:04
Cossack:

I got your email and phone number and will call you during the day. Thank you.

The proposed "mongering weekend" is a great idea ! I will have to go to Istanbul in the 2nd half of July for about a week, so... let's all meet up there and pump it.

How about this: Friday we all go to Serenda, Saturday we go to the restaurant place you mentioned prior and Sunday we take our chicks for a LATE breakfast to Ortaköy, next 2 the Bosphorus. For this event, we should not 4get to invite Bunnyhopper, who has contributed to this board in a great way.

Sammy D
06-22-03, 15:11
Originally posted by Cossack
I forgot...NoC Demirkoy is still open, and I was there on Wed, you know bored and just drove in for a drink. The quality has gone down a bit since last summer, but I picked up a hottie called Daniela from Romania, and had a good time for all! Not the best in the looks (5/6 with nice firm tits and a ROOOUUUUND ass). Unlike all our fellow posters, me included, this girl does it all and happily. I would dare to say that she is one of the few girls who ENJOY their work, and as I said even though she ain't the hottest tamale in town, she is worth EVERY penny, I got her # and asked hr if I could post it...of course she as any other sane business person is up for free advertisement!!!! So here it is, +90-533-244-6076. When y'all call tell her you got her # from her friend in Kemerburgaz..me! That's all

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

PS what is up with ALL you guys I meet while mongering? You are all just lurking about reading but not contributing! Lets us tell our fellow sickos how good Istanbul REALLY is! Get a name, password, and write in you assholes!

Later! Cossack,

As you can see I am new to this forum and I am here in Istanbul from the US. I contacted Daniela and she had no idea who Cossack was and had no friend in Kemerburgaz. She seemed friendly enough and I think it may have been a language barrier. I was hoping that you could contact her and let her know that Sammy is OK. I will wait for your post to know I have the go ahead.

Also I will be in Istanbul for another two weeks (leaving July 6) and I am hoping you will be gracious enough to show me your latest find in Kumburgaz. Just let me know the best way to contact you.

Sammy D

BunnyHopper
06-23-03, 00:08
I have been reading the board from afar... and i am seriously thinking about the "Boys Weekend"... i could never resist temptation !

I'll let you guys know if I can join you.

Exactly what dates are you guys in town ?

Exactly who will be meeting up ?

Cossack
06-23-03, 19:22
Hi fellas,

To Sammy D, of course she does not know Cossack, it is only a handle I use on this Forum! Also I wrote Kemerburgaz, but meant to write Kumburgaz. Anyways, I will call her if you want and tell her that she is now on the Forum (even though I asked an got her permission, I did not tell her I had put her info up yet...ooops). I will only tell her that that you asked on the forum, I do not know about the OK bit since I do not know you personally.....NoC and I are meeting this weekend (STILL ON RIGHT NoC!!) if you are around, we can meet up and then maybe I can say you are OK! Post your email address, and I will contact you!

Bunny, good to see you back alive and kicking on the Forum! As far as the dates, it is looking like July 11 to the 13th is the weekend of pump! That would be Friday thru Saturday. As far as who is attending, it looks like Local (thanks for the call today!, but where did you get my tel#, I didn't send it to you yet??),and NoC, are DEFINITELY in for now, and it looks like connect will be here, and of course myself. Add you to the group, and it looks like we will be a total of 5 of us. Boy! we sure could get some serious partying done!!!! Calling out to stockbroker, hedonist, yaks (what happened to you?)and all of you other Istanbul regulars, join up and lets make a weekend of it.

Just shortly, I finally made it into Europa late Sat nite (business and all), still rocking, still full of decent babes, and picked up a fine Moldovian hottie, it still $100 all nite (1AM to 11 AM Sunday) plus about TL 50 mill for drinks and tips.

That's all,

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

SkmSteve
06-23-03, 20:46
Hi Cossack

I will be in Istanbull Friday/Sat night comming. Do you have an address for the Europa . If you fancy meeting up for a drink let me know. You can get me at send2mat@hotmail.com.
Rgd's Steve

No_Commit
06-24-03, 03:09
Cossack,
All systems are go. Boarding the THY flight on Friday night to arrive in Istanbul on Saturday early morning. I have even arranged the hotel shuttle to pick me up at the airport. Will call you once I get to the hotel on Saturday.
For the planning of mongering weekend in July, I will be back to Istanbul on the 11th of July and moving on to Ankara on the 12th.
PS The Holiday Inn further dropped their price to USD 46/night after I confirmed my booking at USD 51/night. Should have waited a few more days. Shite!
NC

Stockbroker
06-25-03, 01:52
Hey guys..
whats going on..? an istanbul party ...sounds exciting.
i am not able to join you.Damn shit..
you decided to run condoms stocks out..?
maybe by the beginning of July i should make some invesment on condom papers on the market.. prefer "retardanti" ones :))
Saturday night is not a good idea..because all the hot girls
are being booked at early hours by locals.
my advice Bacardi,Europa,Serenda, and Balance clubs.
i have some doubts about Kumburgaz thing.it sounds like a brand new place, and i have never heard of nothing from my local hunter friends about it.
Maybe some other time....
enjoy your party and please let us know about the night..
we hardly wait to hear
bye

Sammy D
06-26-03, 16:03
Originally posted by Cossack
Hi fellas,

To Sammy D, of course she does not know Cossack, it is only a handle I use on this Forum! Also I wrote Kemerburgaz, but meant to write Kumburgaz. Anyways, I will call her if you want and tell her that she is now on the Forum (even though I asked an got her permission, I did not tell her I had put her info up yet...ooops). I will only tell her that that you asked on the forum, I do not know about the OK bit since I do not know you personally.....NoC and I are meeting this weekend (STILL ON RIGHT NoC!!) if you are around, we can meet up and then maybe I can say you are OK! Post your email address, and I will contact you!...

That's all,

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack Cossack,

I would appreciate you contacting Daniela for me. Once you make the "introduction" drop me a line at wsg_sd@yahoo.com. I am eager to give her a call.

Also, this weekend sounds great. Email me with your contact info.

Sammy D

BunnyHopper
06-26-03, 18:36
Well Guy's

My flight has been booked !

My hotel has been booked !

I guess were gonna party !

I will arrive in Istanbul on Friday 11th July in the afternoon and will be staying at the Holiday Inn !

Thanks for the tip ! I paid a rate of USD46.75 per night for the room.

I will leave Sunday afternoon 13th July.

I'll contact you guy's by email to discuss the detail of our itinery !

My email is wsg_1000@yahoo.co.uk

Cossack
06-26-03, 19:47
And the list gets longer!!! Way to go Bunnyman. It looks like the party is now NoC, Bunny, Local (hopefully!if all the papers are in on time), and me GUARANTEED! Four Definites is good....I will definitely be calling Sylvia to arrange for a few babes for at least 1 of those nights! And if the prices are what you all are saying, then I might stay at the INN that weekend.

StockB...I do not have your email, but post it and I will send you and your local hunters the directions to the spot, which is just outside of Kumburgaz (maybe why they are a little confused as to the spot). I asked my buddy about when it was setup, and he tells me that it has been running since last summer!

Sammy....called Daniela, and told her about you, try again, and good luck, looks like she has been a busy girl over the last few days!!!

skmstevie....sorry I do not have the exact address for Europa (check my directions on earlier posts), but check your email, NoC will be in on this Sat as you have probably read, call us and lets meet up!

Local...it is a short flight from Ankara man! Fly in sat afternoon, then fly out Sun afternoon, I think it will be a great night this Saturday! I will call you tomm!

That's all,

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

No_Commit
06-27-03, 03:14
Wow. This is turning out to be a major event! Who is Sylvia?

Sammy D
06-27-03, 17:09
Originally posted by Cossack
And the list gets longer!!! Way to go Bunnyman. It looks like the party is now NoC, Bunny, Local (hopefully!if all the papers are in on time), and me GUARANTEED! Four Definites is good....I will definitely be calling Sylvia to arrange for a few babes for at least 1 of those nights! And if the prices are what you all are saying, then I might stay at the INN that weekend.

StockB...I do not have your email, but post it and I will send you and your local hunters the directions to the spot, which is just outside of Kumburgaz (maybe why they are a little confused as to the spot). I asked my buddy about when it was setup, and he tells me that it has been running since last summer!

Sammy, called Daniela, and told her about you, try again, and good luck, looks like she has been a busy girl over the last few days!

Skmstevie: Sorry I do not have the exact address for Europa (check my directions on earlier posts), but check your email, NoC will be in on this Sat as you have probably read, call us and lets meet up!

Local: It is a short flight from Ankara man! Fly in sat afternoon, then fly out Sun afternoon, I think it will be a great night this Saturday! I will call you tomm!

That's all,

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack Hey Cossack,

Please include me in with the gang. I am eagerly waiting for a reply for this weekend (June 27-29). Email me at wsg_sd@yahoo.com

Connect 28
06-30-03, 23:07
Gentlemen

It looks like I might not be able to join you in Istanbul for the weekend. I need to head back on the 10th. If there is any change with my plans I'll get in touch with you. I was looking forward to this weekend, unfortunately no luck this time. Have fun. Give us details.

connect

Local Expert
07-04-03, 09:33
ok guys.. whats up now ?

Are we really gonna meet in Istanbul next Friday and Saturday ? Who is DEFINITELY in and what is the plan ?

I have booked my flights, but will stay at a friend's house. Wanna see some "yes, Local Expert, I am gonne be there at xx o' clock in yy hotel" messages now ! :-)

Hadi çocuklar........

BunnyHopper
07-04-03, 16:11
As already stated,

Flights and Hotel all booked !

We will meet as per your SMS Text Message a few days a go.

""Local Expert, we will meet at 2000 Hrs in the lobby of the Holiday Inn""

No_Commit
07-06-03, 14:41
Sorry for the delay in the FR but did not have the proper time to come up with a proper report. I arrived in Istanbul at about 7 am last Saturday and caught the hotel shuttle from International Arrivals Hall Gate B direct to the hotel. The shuttle bus leaves the airport every half hour with one-hour intervals. The service is free and very convenient. The Holiday Inn is about 10 min drive away and the weather was beautiful.
Although it wasn't even 8 am when I arrived at the hotel, they checked me in and gave me a room. The hotel is not a high rise and right next door to the Atakoy marina. Although it is a bit run down and old, the rooms are OK. However, one thing to note is the price quoted on the web site is excluding VAT and after all taxes etc it adds up to USD 60/night. I don't think the hotel is 5 stars but not bad either.
After the essential 3S session, I went to have breakfast at Galleria and change my money. I advise you guys going to Istanbul to change at Aksaray or Laleli as I got a low exchange rate and could have had a better deal at Aksaray. After the breakfast I spent some time in Taksim and the old quarters of the town having my lunch at the Cicek pasaji. I tried to get in touch with Cossack but at first he was tied up with work, then had a business lunch and later was not reachable due to flat batteries. Shame really! At that stage I was under the impression that Bunnyhopper and Local Expert was also going to be in town. So I visited internet cafes trying to get in touch with them. At about 4 pm, I understood that I was going to be on my own and decided to make the most of it.
I took a cab to Aksaray and found the restaurant I hooked up with my Moldovian last time I was in Istanbul after Christmas. The pedestrian street is behind Irmak beerhouse/restaurant on the main street heading to the coast Yenikoy. There are 8-10 restaurants next to each other and you can see the girls sitting outside. I went in one and after having ordered a drink, realized that the girls sitting outside were actually serving the customers next door. Damn! After finishing my drink (can't get a perfectly good drink to waste, can you?) and paying up, I moved next door and assessing the talent made eye contact with another Moldovian. I bought her a drink and made chit chat for a few minutes.
She was apparently not working that day and dropped in for a few minutes to see her friends. Anyway, she did not turn me down and agreed to come down to the hotel for 2 hours for USD 50. We took a cab and had no hassles at the hotel. But I guess getting a girl who dresses casually and not flashy would be useful.
In the room we chatted for quite a while and ate the fruits she had bought to take home.
In bed, her service was almost a perfect GFE. She was really into it and enjoying herself. Needless to say that I enjoyed myself very much as well. I got her phone number to call back at night.
At about 8, we took a cab and I dropped her home and I went on to my dinner engagement. I hooked up with friends and had a perfect fish dinner on the bosphorous. By the time I was finished it was already 1 am and Valentina's phone was turned off.
I took a cab to go to Aksaray to check out Serenda and Europa. First port of call was Europa. Both of these joints are practically walking distance to each other but I chose taking cabs as I did not want to take my chances in the back streets walking. Anyway Europa is a nice little club. There were about 25-30 guys sitting around the joint with about 10-12 male waiters and 2-3 Russian looking waitresses. The level of service is bloody annoying to say the least. Every time a waiter walks by asks you a question or two and then gives you a napkin or rearranges the table. They bring you fruit plates without ordering and you have to be careful watching the bill. There were 4 or 5 Russian looking girls. None was beautiful and all were oversized. The place is poorly lit with red lights on purpose and if you are drunk you could end up with a dragon. I am not sure if it was a typical night but I would not go back there myself. The bill was about 20 mil for nothing. Very poor girl/monger ratio with low quality stock and annoying service.
After Europa, I went to Serenda. Contrary to Europa, Serenda was packed. It was an uphill struggle to find a seat. Cover charge is 20 mil, which includes first drink. I sat at the same table with some Arabs. The modus operandi is to watch the dance floor and go up there to make contact. Girls are a bit better quality here with a range between 4's to 7's or 8's depending on your taste and how much you have drunk!. I talked to 3 girls. They were all Russians and asking price was USD 100 for the night. However, all action takes place at the hotel upstairs. None was even willing to consider coming to my hotel. I guess if you were a regular, things may be different. I decided to head of to my usual restaurant scene after having realized I wasn't going to get anything unless I rented another room upstairs which I wasn't willing to do. I took another taxi but found out the places were all closing. It was 3 am by this time. I wanted to check Bacardi but the taxi driver said it was way too expensive and not really worth it. He also warned strictly against the pimps who approach you on the streets. Apparently, violence, mugging, spiked drinks and inflated bills are the SOP for these crooks. Beware!
I ended up in my room alone and after a few hours of sleep headed off to the airport to catch my flight to UK. I will be back next weekend and want to stay longer meeting up with LE, Bunny and Cossack. Local expertise and guidance may the key to a more successful trip to Istanbul.
Overall, I did enjoy spending the day and wish I could have hooked up with Valentina after my dinner.
As for next weekend, I will be in Istanbul on Friday 11th of July and will be leaving on Saturday the next day heading off to Ankara. I am all booked up and ready to rock'n roll. This time I hope we can all meet up. I will be at the Holiday Inn lobby at 8 pm for sure but maybe in earlier than that. I will confirm on Wednesday by private email.
Cheers everyone…

Local Expert
07-07-03, 08:01
Bunny Hopper: I got ur SMS, thank you. As aggreed, we will meet in the lobby at 20.00 on Friday night. Which Holiday Inn is it you booked ? There are apparently two in Istanbul.

NC: What a pitty, you seemed to have come to Istanbul for "nothing" :-)

I hope we will have more action next Friday and Saturday.

Although I have never been to Europa, I can picture your expirience very well. Also it has been quite a while that I have been to Serenda, so I hope my last expirience won't be spoiled by the current status quo.......

I believe Cossack, as the sole real "local expert" for Istanbul, will be able to show us the "up-to-date" action.

We have to cancel our Ankara meeting, since I will be in Istanbul all weekend.

See you guys there - L.E.

Cachondito
07-08-03, 23:00
Guys.. Who are these women with Italian names? Valentina, Sylvia, Daniela..? Am I missing on something important? :-)

Cachondito
07-08-03, 23:24
All apologies for my stupidity, now I've figured who Daniela would be. Still no idea about the others though. I would still like some information about those ones.

Cossack, is it ok if I call her and tell her I got her number from you? Should I speak English or should I speak Turkish with her? Does she do Greek and how much would she cost me for an hour and/or overnight?

Oh and that Demirköy... It's walking distance to where I am right now. I know it's not meant for Turkish people but I could show them my Canadian I.D. and speak English with a Canadian accent and get in (I think..) or I could simply put someone in between. BUT, is it worth it? How much do the girls usually cost and what would their rating be regarding the looks department?

Thanks in advance for the info.

Cuesta
07-09-03, 06:01
Originally posted by Cossack
I forgot...NoC Demirkoy is still open, and I was there on Wed, you know bored and just drove in for a drink. The quality has gone down a bit since last summer, but I picked up a hottie called Daniela from Romania, and had a good time for all! Not the best in the looks (5/6 with nice firm tits and a ROOOUUUUND ass). Unlike all our fellow posters, me included, this girl does it all and happily. I would dare to say that she is one of the few girls who ENJOY their work, and as I said even though she ain't the hottest tamale in town, she is worth EVERY penny, I got her # and asked hr if I could post it...of course she as any other sane business person is up for free advertisement!!!! So here it is, +90-533-244-6076. When y'all call tell her you got her # from her friend in Kemerburgaz..me! That's all

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

PS what is up with ALL you guys I meet while mongering? You are all just lurking about reading but not contributing! Lets us tell our fellow sickos how good Istanbul REALLY is! Get a name, password, and wirte in you assholes!

Later! Hi Cossack , is Demirkoy Hotel the one near Atakoy Marina or are you talking about the ranch like place past Kumburgaz app. 50 mi. drive west of the AÝRPORT.

Cuesta
07-12-03, 06:33
For your info I stopped by Demirköy hotel last night and the place was empty around 12:00, went back at 1:00 there were about 15 chicks averaging 5/10 in looks and cosmetics.

Just had a coffee and watched.CC is 15 mio and as I was leaving around 1:30 there were girls being bussed in and they certainly looked better like 6,7 .Can anyone tell me if you can take the girls out to go to your place or do you have to use the hotel for horizontal purposes. I will definitely try the place out again soon.

paganslave
07-12-03, 20:55
Cuesta,
You are absolutely right. We regular visitors to the IStanbul area need to keep our fellow readers informed as to what they are missing. I'll be back trolling soon and plan to bring along a camera this time. We need to get a Turkey section going!

I've been to the clubs and HATE paying for over priced drinks for an hour until I select the woman I want. Daniela sound wonderful. I'll give her a ring. The next time you are in Istanbul, consider calling Alexsandra - 90-536-883-7698 She is a petite Ukrainian blond. She spent the night with me for $150. A beautiful and very willing sex slave!

Enjoy.

Local Expert
07-14-03, 10:22
Here is my version of BunnyHopper's, No_Commit's and my mongering-weekend in Istanbul:

To put it bluntly: I was fairly disappointed compared to the experience I had about 18 months ago.

We met at the Holiday Inn at 20.00 on Friday night, where BH and NC booked their rooms. I stayed at a friend's house, so I got there by taxi. Both have already been in Aksaray during the afternoon where they picked up 2 chicks, so we were 5 people in NC's room and had a quick beer. NC made sure that his needs will have been satisfied for his entire stay and booked his chick for 2 days for a total of 150 USD.

After our beer, we left NC's chick at the hotel and brought back BH's chick to a restaurant in Aksaray where BH picked her up prior in the afternoon. These restaurants (about 6 in a row) are located in a side street, you can eat there and pick up a girl (mostly from the CIS) for desert.

We then headed to a small, but clean restaurant for dinner to prepare ourselves for the night. I think the bill was around 30 million TL for the 3 of us.

After dinner, we first went to Bacardi had a beer and checked the stock available. The girls were gorgeous and definitely the best looking ones compared to all other clubs we checked out later. Since I had bad experience in Bacardi the last time I was in Istanbul (expensive girls, rip-off, etc.) we moved on to Serenda after our beers (I think it was 10 million each plus a rip-off of 10 or 15 million for these stupid fruits and nuts). On the way I suggested to check into some small bars to (maybe) find a good place which was not mentioned on this board before, but they were only crap.

Serenda was the place where I was woken up from my dreams of a great night. It has changed a lot from my last trip to Istanbul. The entrance fee is now 20 million TL which includes a drink and some "meze" (= fruits, nuts, etc), the beer is 5 million. The place was packed with local men but there were only around 10 girls. We arrived there early (I would say 22.00 or 22.30) but could still only get a table behind a column that supports the ceiling between the dance floor and the tables, so we couldn't really see the chicks on the dance floor. I protested and wanted to sit at the bar, but these waiters (= wankers) made a problem about that. There were other tables available, but if you wanted to sit there, you had to buy a bottle of Turkish Whiskey for 100 million TL, which we were not willing to do. I asked one waiter why the place was so empty regarding girls and he told me that since it was the weekend and summer, the majority of the chicks is either working in Antalya or has been booked prior by local Istanbulians for the entire weekend. This statement was true for all bars in Aksaray. When we came to Serenda, all the girls were sitting at tables and the dance floor was empty. About 10 minutes later the started to dance for 5 minutes and we could get a glance at the stock. Nothing really exiting to be honest. After that, there was a dance show by 2 dancers (not nude though) followed by 2 others. We drank our beer in Serenda and left for Chicago Bar.

At this place, there was a live singer and some girls at tables. We just had a look and left without ordering anything.

I think we went to one or the other bar after Chicago, sat down, paid horrendous bills for our beers and fruits and decided to go back to Bacardi. Back there, we had another drink and checked the stock at the dancefloor in detail. There were really very hot chicks dancing and NC invited one to our table while BH and me went onto the dancefloor to get a closer look. I fancied an oriental looking one but got disappointed when I took a closer look. Back at the table I asked NC's girl about the prices and she confirmed 200 USD for the night. Now.... "the night" in Bacardi seems to mean "a huge bill of about 10 million for your drink, another 10 million for this fruits platter, I think 30 million for her foxglove of water, tips to every idiot on your way out to the taxi and one screw in your hotelbed. BH will come to the details in his report soon. Having had bad experiences in Bacardi the last time I was there, I decided to split up from the group and went back to Serenda. This place was as disappointing as it was some hours before. I got a seat at the bar finally, but the stock was terrible and due to the majority of men in Serenda, the prices must have rose a lot. I chatted up this Romanian chick on the dancefloor (a 6 on my scale and in no way comparable to the hotties from last year). She offered me 150 USD, which I told her was impudent and said that I would not pay more than 150 million. She agreed finally and we went to the reception. This hotel was booked out, so they put us on the waitinglist and sent us to the roof restaurant, where about 5 other couples were waiting for a room as well. When I looked at her under "normal light" I started doubting my decision to spend the night with her, she was only a 4,5. On top of that she expected me to buy her food or a drink and told me I was "cimri" (= cheap) when I said "no". Now, whenever I hear a chick in Turkey calling me "cheap" I get the real meaning. These girls wanna finish you off for a high price and do their best to get back down to the bar/disco/home. When she then told me that she was Romanian, which she translated as "no head", "no anal" and "no this" - "no that", I had enough, left her up there and went out. Thank God I hadn't paid her anything yet.

I headed back to Chicago where the singer had gone and several chicks and men were dancing. I shared a table with a Turk who told me the same story (summer, weekend, good girls all gone). This place is a rip-off ! Although they have a pricelist at the entrance stating 5 million for your beer, they still charge 35 million for your first "set" of a beer and these really annoying fruits. God, I have not had that much vitamins in one night for ages....... :-(

Now listen, if they do the same thing to you, just dont pay !!! Dont let these assholes fuck you !!! Go to the front desk, call the manager, show him the "5 million sign" on the price list and refuse to pay more than that. Of course he will tell you stories, but just tell him to call the police then. In that stage they usually get scared and let you go, but won't let you in again. So I left, and wanted to try my last chance at Europa.

Well that place was empty, about 10 guys and 10 girls, Russian waitresses and not so loud as the other places were. Same story here, beer 5 million, starter set 20 million. I told the waitress to bring me a glass of water for 5 million and refused the fruits. She came again with nuts and other stuff, but I directly sent that back. It must have been around 3.30 and I was tired and horny, so I called an oriental girl from Kazakistan over to my table. She looked pretty good for that time, about 7 on my scale, but was already drunk and started kissing and fingering me in the bar. I agreed on 150 million for the night, got her a drink (30 million LT) and took her home. She was a wild cat; got directly undressed after I closed the door to the flat I was staying in and started sucking me (not very good though) in the hallway. She had nice tits and a very soft skin. Her name is Zhanar. I opened a can of beer for her and then we went to bed. She was asking me for cocaine !!!!! :-(( and told me how great this stuff is supposed to be, but that' s not my cup of tea. I had her twice, no anal, and got really tired at around 5.30, so I called her a cab and went to bed.

As a summary I must say: It was a very expensive evening, many girls with attitudes, not really what I had thought of and experienced before. I will try the same route on a weekday in winter, until that I will do more research in Ankara.

BH and NC... it was a pleasure to meet you, you are both nice guys and we should repeat our trip when its rainy and colder in Turkey.

Our beloved friend Cossack did unfortunately not show up, although this weekend was his idea and he confirmed to meet us at the Holiday Inn.

Loser :-)))))) .... but you didnt miss anything.

I saw NC in Ankara on Sunday evening, this experience will be posted soon in he Ankara section.

BunnyHopper
07-14-03, 12:19
istanbul weekend july 2003

present: bunnyhopper (bh) , no_commit (noc) and local expert (le).

this is my report on the weekend from my point of view. you will also read over the next few days reports by noc and le. i hope you guys find that interesting because you will read three view points of the same situations. perhaps it will tell you something about the differing outlooks we have on mongering !

day 1:

came into istanbul via air france (uk to paris to istanbul). i will avoid travelling with air france in the future. the plane was delayed from the uk to paris and i was rescued by british airways ! when i got to cdg, af staff told me the check-in was closed ! having said, that they did frantically make phones to try to re-open the check-in and get me on-board. they did succeed, but only after nearly giving me ¡§kittens!¡¨... the other thing which i did not like too much about cdg was that to get between terminals you have to take an onsite bus¡k. ! i guess i was feeling rather stressed because i knew i would struggle to make my connection. it may come as no surprise also that my return flight from cdg was also delayed. i don¡¦t think i will fly air france again.

anyway arrived at istanbul ataturk and around 3:00 pm, faced the usual gauntlet of the turkish immigration officers !!!! the film midnight express running through my mind ļ

went outside and got on the holiday inn shuttle service that was already outside, nicely timed. check in was very easy and the hotel lay out lends itself very well to mongering (read on below). room was usd 46.75 plus 18% local tax. they gave me a twin room with two double beds !!!!

4:00 pm, met noc in the lobby. we brought ourselves upto speed and then walked over to the neighbouring crowne plaza to use the facilities. nice hotel if you are in istanbul for a genuine reason ļ

we grabbed a cab and went to aksaray. this was the first time that i had been to aksaray in the day time. it looked like a pretty normal area. many people, couples, families, regular shops, ¡k.. lot¡¦s of hussle and bussle.

we went to the irmak restaurant. the address is mesihpasa cad, ihtisapagasi sok no 11/a. tel: 0212 518 50 52 (one of the waiters gave me his business card).

for those of you familiar with barcardi club. imagine you are inside bacardi and step outside. you then cross the main road infront of you, turn left and then take the first right turn you come to about 5 ¡v 10 metres. go up this right turn another 5 metres and irmak is either on your left or right along pedestrian road. it is a restaurant with many chairs and tables outside ¡v in the daytime, this part of aksaray is very open and safe.

noc was familiar with the place as he had been there before, he also speaks fluent turkish ! we sat down and ordered a cola, beer and some squid. there was about five or six girls at the table in front of us ranging from 0 to 6. as we sat eating and chatting, two girls walked by and sat down at the table in front of us with the other girls. one caught my eye, she was tall, slim, dark blonde with a nice ass.

noc and i kept chatting for after about ten minutes, trying to get a good look at the girls as the got up and went to the toilet. (otherwise you would not be able to see their bodies !)

i decided that i wanted to have this girl. her name was oluiba (spelling ??) from moldova.

we beckoned the waiter and he took us inside the restaurant (up until this point we were seated at the tables outside). she came in and we ordered a coke and vodka for her and started to chat.

this girl was fresh, had just been in istanbul 2 days and spoke no english or turkish and did not know aksaray too well either. we struggled to communicate. at this point noc telephoned valentina (see his previous posting dated 07-06-03)

valentina spoke to luiba about the deal i wanted and then oluiba went outside and got another girl that spoke turkish to come inside. this other girl spoke to valentina, i guess telling her that she was familiar with noc and what we were cool. oluiba wanted usd60 to come back with me to the holiday inn for about 2 hours and we would then drop her back off at irmak - we paid the usd60 to this other girl. we stayed for about half an hour i guess, had some coffees too and then left. the restaurant bill was i think 38million. i am not sure as i was running a tab with noc as he spoke turkish and we were thus less likely to be overcharged.

the deal was also that we pick up valentina from her hotel on our way back to the inn (valentina was for noc).

we picked up valentina, and immediately i noticed that oluiba perked up. i guess until this point she was perhaps nervous. having valentina along was good idea. i guess they feel safer in pairs.

we got back to the inn at about 6:00 pm. noc went to his room with valentina and i went off to my room with oluiba.

the holiday inn lends itself very well to guests. the accommodation blocks have separate entrances so you don¡¦t have to walk through the lobby/reception. this was a good thing also for when the girl leaves.

anyway, once in the room, we sat down and got some drinks from the mini bar. she drank vodka and i drank cola ! we tried to chat for a bit and then i suggested a shower. we both stepped in together.

this was really very nice, she washed me all over and even shampooed my hair and i did the same to her. she was very relaxed now and quite playful.

we dried off and jumped on the bed, touching and exploring her body. did this i guess for about 10-15 mins. then i started to finger her, this was went i noticed how wet she was ! i couldn¡¦t believe it. i have never been with a hooker that seemed to get turned on. she was so wet and warm down below, like when you are with your girlfriend/wife.

we did the deed, she was nibbling my ears, biting my lips and tongues and biting my nipples. she was really good, it felt like i was with my girlfriend. we carried on for about 15-20 mins in different positions, she seemed to like it cowgirl style ¡v before i shot my load doggy style.

she seemed really disappointed, i asked what¡¦s wrong and she said gestured that she would have liked me to carry on longer for her to orgasm too.

wow ! i thought, she was really up for it ¡v i understood why she was so wet down below. had i stopped and thought about her pleasure for a moment, i would have timed my orgasm after hers ¡v with hindsight, that would have been something ¡v to feel her pussy contract as she orgasmed !

we fell to the bed, and had a smoke and carried on drinking for a bit before another quick shower. i was mindful of the time as local expert (le) was due to arrive about 8:00 pm. at no point did i feel under time pressure from her. she may have stayed or hours more.

anyway had another blistering round with her. it was a bit too soon after the first round though, but the sex was really good. again so much enthusiasm and it felt real too me.

we had another quick shower and gain she washed me, paying attention to my privates and again shampooing my hair.

i had not yet unpacked, so i did so then and called room service to bring me and iron and ironing board. they did so.

when it arrived, i asked her to iron my shirt - which she happily did as i spent my time gelling my hair, splashing on cologne¡k.etc.

what a little treasure i had stumbled across. !

8:00 pm went to noc¡¦s room with luiba and was greeted by valentina. noc was down in the lobby to get le.

valentina ordered a few beers. noc¡¦s room was pretty nice, nice sun terrace/patio looking out over the harbour.

then noc and le arrived, we drank beer and chatted ¡v the three wise men had assembled ! we chatted and decided on a plan for the evening.

we agreed the three of us would take oluiba back to irmak and do a tour of the joints and valentina would stay in the inn for noc¡¦s return.

we grabbed a cab and it was i guess around 9:00 by the time we got back to irmak. noc commented to me that he thought oluiba looked disappointed to go. i guess it makes sense to me now about her, she was still new to the game, not hardened up yet and hence still into the gfe ¡v i did treat he well and with kindness and it paid dividends for me.

irmak was far more busy now, lots of girls outside. the next to irmak are perhaps 5 or 6 other bars and a hotel opposite called bosper hotel (spelling ?) ¡v more on that later.

many of the girls were really hot ¡v upto 7 ¡v 8 on your taste.

we stopped at a regular restaurant and had our evening meal.

bacardi: - we then went to the bacardi, i guess now 10:30pm ¡¥ish. the girls are best that i have seen anywhere in istanbul. our plan was just to sit and drink and watch for a bit and then go elsewhere. i have a camera phone and i tried to take pictures inside, but it was too dark. these are girls are really fit, dressed to thrill ¡v perfect sun tan¡¦s

i spotted the two girls i had on my previous trips and pointed them out ! including the one with the breast implants !!!!!!!!!!!

we paid up, i can¡¦t recall how much, le & noc may remember ¡v i was still running my tab with noc.

we walked down akasary along the main road, looked into some of the bars but were not impressed. we went into 2 on them including sikago2000 (which gets a mention in the archives somewhere). pretty poor these places, but it was still very early in the evening ¡v few girls not very pretty looking.

{{{{as i am writing this, i have just noticed that le has posted his report, perhaps i am confused about the order in which we visted some of the bars¡k but the facts are the same regardless ¡v even though i was the one that didn¡¦t drink raki !!!}}}}

serenda :- we then walked to serenda, 20 million to get ¡v turkish hyper inflation !!!!.

same old guy at the cash register, same look on his face when he saw me, ¡§you again¡k!¡¨ he must have thought.

as le has said, stock was very disappointing ¡v problem of summer and weekend bookers having taken the best girls already. but again i did spot two girls. that i had on previous trips, including one that was ready to do anal for me at no extra (back then august 2002 ¡v it was usd100 for the night) ¡v try as i might, that night i could not penetrate her arse !!! i left my lube at the hotel ¡v i go prepared now !
i went to the dance floor and asked her if she remembered me ¡v she said she did, but i think she didn¡¦t. i asked her were are all the girls, she said this is it !

le has written already about the arsy waiters. there is one waiter there that i always ask for by name when i am there as he speaks english and gets me a good table without the rip-off whiskey. i asked noc to ask one of the other waiters there if my waiter was there, unfortunaly not working that night !!!

we watched the show, i went on the floor twice to have a good look at the stock. overall, disappointing so we left.

if my memory serves me well, we went back to bacardi then, i think we had already looked at sikago2000 and others. anyway the point is we ended up back at bacardi.

bacardi :- went on the floor a couple of times with le, we saw many girls we would have loved to fuck. i was edging towards deciding on a tall blonde with a perfect tan, silky smooth legs and an ass you could eat all-night long ¡v then noc invited a girl to our table.

her name is olga, she was a drop dead gorgous. she was russian; fair skin, black hair, pigtails and mesmerising green eyes. noc wanted a sandwich (her, him and valentina back at the inn)

olga was undecided on this and had a drink with us and then went back to her table.

le, decided he wanted to head back to serenda and noc decided he wanted to go back and pump valentina ¡v just me left to decide what to do.

i thought in my mind, i have already seen olga at close quarters, so i might as well have her, rather than pick the blonde i was edging towards and go through the whole routine of drinks¡ketc.

olga came back to our table (le had left now) and i asked her how much, she replied 200 euros. i knew this was the going rate, so i agreed. i paid usd200, she wanted paying in the club.

i committed a cardinal sin, i did not ask her how long she would stay or what she would do.

we left, got hassled by the waiter because he wanted a tip (again) noc explained to him that we had already paid a tip at the time le left. we left, i paid 5mill tip to the cloakroom guy. and ignored the guy outside wanting a tip to flag the cab down (just do it yourself and ignore him)

at the inn, noc went off to his room and olga and i back to my own room.

we chatted for a bit, she seemed really nice. even more pretty in proper lighting - she had a vodka out the mini bar. we had quick shower and then we were on the bed.

perfect skin, really long nipples ¡v i enjoyed nibbling those.

the sex was really good, she gave deep throat blowjob, and i fuck her in all positions (no anal) ¡v it was not mechanical at all ¡v it reminds of sex with my girl back home.

the best part was that i finished off in the doggy position with one pigtail in each hand. such a thrill watching her arch her back and that arse shaking about. i shot my load and slumped to the bed.

this is went things started to go wrong. they all have mobile and this mobile kept on ringing. four or five calls in the space of 10-15 mins. one call seemed quite heated, i could hear another person shouting on the other end.

she jumps off the bed and said ¡§i¡¦m leaving¡k.¡¨ i said but you have to stay to the morning. she replied ¡§i never agreed that¡k.¡¨ i knew then of the cardinal sin that i had committed !

she showered, wanted 30mil for cab and the fucked off ¡v leaving me in the lurch.

i sat finishing my drink wondering what to do. the night was still young and i did not feel tired. i considered call noc¡¦s room to see if he wanted to share valentina¡k but i decided against it.

i took a couple of photos (tasteful) of olga with my camera phone, the quality of the pictures are pretty poor, but both le and noc have seen her at close quarters and perhaps can understand why i thought she might be the fuck of the century.

killed the lights and went to sleep.

as a footnote, i should add that on my previous trip. i tooks girls from bacardi on two consequetive nights, both were very good, did all the stuff we agreed and stayed for the time we agreed.

perhaps this evenings experince with olga was a flash-in-the-pan.

it hasn't detered my from visiting on any new trip trip.

BunnyHopper
07-14-03, 14:25
DAY 2:

Both LE and NoC were heading off to Ankara today leaving me to my own devices!

In the morning, NoC and I went to Galleria, had tea, settled my tab and looked around. We went to quite an expense cosmetics shop¡K.window shopping! Not for perfumes¡K we were looking the cosmetics girls !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also bought a couple bought of wine from a supermarket there thinking about my overnight guest!

INHO, Turkish girls are gorgeous. !!

Around midday I had a last beer with NoC and took Valentina¡¦s number thinking if all else fails I could call her in the evening.

At around one o¡¦clock I was back at Irmak. I had a couple of teas and watched the girls. There were 3 or 4 there. But nothing that I fancied. The other restaurants next to Irmak had no girls present at that time. So I went for a wander round some of the back streets to see if I stumbled across any interesting places and saw quite a bit of Aksaray.

I took two picture of the Irmak. One whilst seated the other as I walked way. Again the quality/resolution of the pictures are not very good. But you can see the general scene.

Through the middle of Aksaray is a dual carriage way/main road. On one side of this main road are places like Serenda, Bacardi and Big Pub (mentioned previously on the WSG) ¡V this part of Aksaray is a relative dump. Quite backstreets, the sort of place that would make you cautious at night.

On the other side of Aksaray is Irmak and the regular shops, bars, restaurants¡K.etc.

I was feeling hungry now and wanted to have my afternoon meal. I stopped at a restaurant. Imagine you are in Big Pub and you step out side. Across the road you see a fork in the road and a row of phone booths to the right next to the Fork along with public toilets.

In the middle of this fork is a restaurant. I stopped there as they had tables outside and had a meal (regular prices) and a few beers and Turkish Tea!

When sitting at this place a saw the street action that goes on in Aksaray ¡V there is a lot of it!

Outside this restaurant there are many people just standing around, passing time I guess. And there are many girls. The girls don¡¦t stand on the corner, they are constantly walking about. Perhaps doing a circuit every 10 minutes or so. At first it was hard to spot them, and then it became easier.

There were allsorts. Some really hot girls and others were 40 year olds !!!!

The girls would just walk around, and the Turkish men would just walk along side them and talk. It they struck a deal they all seemed to wonder off in the same direction. I guess a near by hotel or something. I tried to follow one girl; she seemed to look at me then head up aside street. I was curious were there were all going to. I did not follow further as I guess I did not fancy fucking her.

I spent I guess 2 hours at this restaurant, eating, drink, watching the Turkish Mongers at work and taking pictures with my phone.

I was amazed at how open all this is. There are police officers near by (and a police station on the main road half way between Bacardi and Sikago2000), normal people, men, women and families al walking by, completely oblivious to what is happening.

There were allsorts of Turkish guys, ranging from the Maganda type to the business man in a suit to the 16 year old lads trying to lose their cherries!!!

There was one girl that really made me smile. She looks like a normal girl. Little bit of make up, white blouse, an ankle length floral print dress carrying SHOPPING BAGS!

(You know the paper bags with a boutiques name on the side)

The first time I saw her, I just thought pretty Turkish girl. But she was doing circuits and it soon became apparent what she was up to. I couldn¡¦t believe it SHOPPING BAGS!!! What was in those bags I have no idea.

Other girls were wearing very tight jeans and trousers and looked much like the girls in Serenda.

I had now managed to kill a few hours, my belly was full and I wanted to see if the availability at Irmak had improved to wandered back there.

Sat down and looked around. There were more girls there. One caught my eye, very pretty face. I waited until she got up and walked around so I could see her body. She was OK and I thought I¡¦ll have her.

She knew I was looking at her and she tried to catch my eyes a few time. Eventually I let her connect and smiled and beckoned her with my hand over to my table.

She came over and we tried to talk. She spoke almost no English at all and I thought I how am I gonna close this deal ? Her name was Tanya.

She called over one of the waiters from Irmak who spoke English and he acted like a translator.

At first she offered USD50 for 2 hours at a local hotel. I think the Dogan Hotel ???

But I wanted her till the early evening and I wanted to go to the Holiday Inn.

We agreed USD100 for her to accompany be back to the Holiday Inn. She was weary of this and she insisted that she call the cab. That made me very nervous. I tried to insist with the waiter that I flag down a random cab on the main road. But he the girl would otherwise not go. So agreed ¡V and waiting nervously for about 15 mins for the cab to come.

All the negotiations were through the waiter. I paid the drinks bill, I can¡¦t remember how much, but it was fair and the waiter didn¡¦t feel the need for a Tip !!!!.

His name was Sukru (spelling ???)

When it did arrive, it was an old guy driving the cab she seemed to know him and the route he took back to the Inn was familiar. So felt Ok my now.

Back the hotel, no problems getting to my room (separate entrance to residential blocks).

Went in and I thought I am gonna be here with here for 4 or 5 hours so I take my time.

I gave her the room service list and she fancied pizza which I ordered. She also had Vodka from the minibar (have you noticed a trend yet? - they all drink Vodka ! I thought girls drink wine ļ)

We ate, drank vodka and wine for a while, then had shower and then hit the bed.

I took a few phone-camera pictures of her. They don¡¦t do her justice to be truthful.

She was just as good as the other girl from Irmak, Oluiba, and gave a GFE experience and I was satisfied. Did not do a BJ during round one though. (Oluiba did not do BJ either ¡V I guess I could have encouraged her more and she may have done it)

(In my mind this made some of my previous forays at Serenda look rather mechanical with hindsight)

We did it a couple more times, intermingled with bites of pizza, gulps of wine and vodka and trips to the shower and watching Jennifer Lopez shake her ass on MTV! At around 6:30 she called the cab and left at around 7:00 when it arrived.

I asked her to stay on until the morning and offered her a further USD100. She gestured she could and that ¡§mama-san¡¨ would get rough (making a fist a pointing at her face) with her unless she went back. I said to her that I may go to Irmak again at around 8:00 or 9:00 pm that evening.

Her cab arrived and she left in rush leaving her mobile. When I realised she had already left and I went outside thinking she may still be there. I waited a few minutes and she called her own mobile as I was standing outside. The cab came back and I laughed at her and handed her the mobile back. I caught a glimpse of the ¡§mama-san¡¨ sitting in the front passenger seat. Dark skinned woman, maybe Turkish in 40¡¦s maybe 50¡¦s same cab driver.

I went back inside, relaxed for a while and then changed and washed and got a cab back to Aksaray at about 9:00 pm.

I went straight to Irmak and WOW!

There were so many girls there outside Irmak. And now also outside the other restaurants along side Irmak.

Also there is a hotel opposite Irmak called Bosper Hotel (spelling). They too have tables outside with many hot girls and I also noticed many going in and out of the hotel.

Could this be another Serenda type hotel? It needs a Turkish speaking local to volunteer to go an investigate Bosper further.

At my table I had a coke and watch for a while. I was impressed with the girls and the joint (given that I was not inside a night club or bar).

I watched many guys strike deals and walk up the street in the same direction (the direction) Many Bacardi and Serenda quality girls here.

I spotted Tanya again and she smiled at me over 2 or 3 rows of people. She called my mobile a few time from her table and the eventually walked over pecked me on the check and walked back to her table. I thought, now that I am here, I may as well try another girl tonight.

The waiter Sukru was there again. I shook his hand and he asked me how was the girl and I said perfect and he nodded approvingly.

I noticed a sign next to the restaurant that said Irmak Disco. I asked him what time it opens and if it was any good. He said that it kicks off around 11:00pm and that there were many girls there. He said no entrance fee and the drink are around 2 ¡V 3 million for coke or beer.

I said I would return later. He told me to ask for him by name when I returned.

I went back to the restaurant were I had lunch and watched the goings on in the street again ¡V including a big road traffic accident ! Not surprised the way they drive in Istanbul!

Some girls still walking about.

Had a few drinks and this time started chatting to the waiter that served me in the afternoon. I didn¡¦t realise he spoke English.

I had some time to kill before I went back to Irmak so I thought I would go to Bacardi and have a coke ¡V window shop for a while (still toying with the idea of another Bacardi girl !).

I sat at the Bar had a coke and watched for about half an hour. I saw Olga again, dressed the same and seated at the same table. I tried to catch her eye but as I was seated behind her, I did not.

I also saw ¡§The Red Rock¡¨ there again (LE and NoC will know what I mean) !!!

I asked for the bill and the waiter behind the bar told me to relax and stay ¡V I started to worrying, a minute later I asked again and waited more, but still no bill.

Eventually, I understood the delay. The waiter I had asked the bill for was not the one that served me. When the one that did serve came back to the bar, they spoke and he returned with the bill. 17million for a coke ! I gave 20million and walked off.

At Irmak, met Sukru outside, he led me to set of stairs next to the restaurant going up. Irmak Disco was at the top of the stairs. Halfway up the stairs is another disco, and as I walked up the guy from this disco beckoned me in. Sukru said something to him and I walked pass him up to Irmak Disco. Sukru handed me (if this is the right words) to a waiter in Irmak.

I was not impressed. Just two girls at the time 11:30pm ish and maybe ten guys. A few guys dancing but most guys drink quietly by themselves.

Many girls did wonder in for a few minutes and wander back out. I guess most were still seated at the restaurants down below.

By around 1:00pm the place was OK. There were at least 3 girls in there, that based on the looks and body, I would have been happy with. But I waited; I wanted to see more choice.

I little while later, I noticed Oluiba wander in, sit down for literally one minute then wander back out again.

A little latter further Tanya wondered in and I caught her eye and beckoned her over with my hand.

In this place I guess you are free to walk around and chat to the girls ¡V I think they are independent)

I asked Tanya how much for the night and if she would come back to the inn again.

She wrote on a napkin USD80 and gestured she would sleep and pointed at my watch indicating 9 ¡V 10 am.

She ordered a drink, vodka and coke I think and we sat for a while.

She was in the mood to dance and went onto the dance (about the size of Serenda) and boogied with her girlfriends for a while.

Eventually she indicated she felt hot and I suggested we leave.

I asked for the bill and was asked Lira or Dollars? I replied Lira. He said 50 million. I could have protested and called Sukru, but instead I paid the 50mill with no separate tip to the waiter and we walked down stairs flagged a cab and head to the Inn again.

When in the room, we drank a little had shower and then did the deed. Still every bit as motivated a before and seemed to take delight in watching me have an orgasm.

We stayed up a bit, did more stuff, before killing the lights a sleeping till the morning.

Was rudely woken up by the mama-san in the middle of the night. Tanya was still asleep and so ended the call on her mobile.

It did ring again.

But was woken up again by the mama san at round 7:00 am. Both I and Tanya seemed annoyed. She was still in daze half sleepy state. I asked her to stay until after breakfast, but again she gestured they would rough her up unless she complied, which I believed her to be honest, I had no doubt she would like to have stayed (I guess she felt ok with me on the second trip to the Inn).

I called reception and got her a cab and she left and I slept for another hour or two.

Had breakfast, packed, settled the bill, took shuttle to Airport ¡V again to be thoroughly unimpressed by Air France !

On balance I think the 5 ¡V 6 restaurants around Irmak are the place to go. You can have an afternoon girl, or an all-night girl. Good GFE service at reasonable prices and the price downstairs in the restaurants aren¡¦t too bad (given that you will pay a premium almost every place you go), and the girls will come back to your place.

It was good to meet up with NoC and LE, was disappoint that Cossack did not show, I thought he was going to be the Master of Ceremonies for the duration.

Live long and prosper !

Connect 28
07-15-03, 23:31
BH, LE and NC

Thanks for the reports. I feel sorry that I missed the opportunity of hanging around with you guys. Hopefully next time. In your opinion is Irmak best set up after Bacardi to get quality girls in terms of value? I understand that that I am not the only one who thinks Seranda girls have an attitude problem. Is Valentina good value for money and does she do anal?

Connect

Stockbroker
07-16-03, 01:09
Hey guys thx for sharing your weekend stories.
That "weekend,summer,south" story is partialy true.
As a native citizen i never go out at weekends for hunting as i warned you before.
And i never spent time in crap bars,i always directly go to Bacardi.
Because when you hang around you spent more than just paying for a Bacardi girl..pay this pay that take a cab,tip him tip that ...
as a result you pay more than Bacardi.
Most of the girls went southern Turkey or to their own countries
they always come back by the snow season in Russia or by the rain season in South Turkey..

next time i will try Holiday inn hotel..it sounds good for price and seperate entrance..
good luck everybody..
stockbroker

SkmSteve
07-16-03, 23:00
Got back from Istanbul last week. I Went to the Demirkoy hotel. It was better to go there late as more girls arrive after 11pm, and there were some very nice Turkish ladies. The one I wanted to go with was already occupied .I ended up going with a Natasha for the night for $100 . I do not remember her name, but she was about 5,10 , blond and slim.

On my second night I went to the Barcardi club. I tipped the waiter and he got me a seat at the front next to the stage. He spoke English, and told me the form, and suggested I just tell him which girl I liked and he would call her over. I ended up going with a tall blond for what I thought was the night for $200. She bailed out after 3 hours. Barcardi was good for the visual therapy, but to professional for me. May be it was just my luck. The girl from Barcardi wanted $100 for photos, I just showed her the door.

Rgd's all

Steve

No_Commit
07-18-03, 01:34
I now see that I am the last of the "three wise men" to post a field report on our outings in Istanbul and Ankara last weekend. Here it goes:

July 10th, 2003 (a day before the agreed appointment date):
Due to unforeseen circumstances, I decided to get to Istanbul from London a day before my plans. Because of the school holidays, changing my reservation was pretty difficult. I was on the waiting list for 3 different flights leaving London on the 10th and I was confirmed on the 11.45 THY (must stand for They Hate You) flight finally on the same morning. The flight was a bit delayed but arrived at the airport safe and sound at around 18.30. I was rushing to catch the shuttle to the hotel but managed to get it in the nick of time. This shuttle service is another great thing for the Holiday Inn. My reservation was made for the 11th at the hotel and they said they were fully booked. So for an additional USD 25 I upgraded myself to an executive room, which turned out to be a very wise decision. Inclusive of all taxes, I paid USD 85 for a night including breakfast, which is about USD 15 anyway. The room was great with a big bed and a small sitting area overlooking the marina and the sea. Fantastic views. The room and the hotel come with a great recommendation from my side. The disadvantage is that you have to get taxis to go anywhere, as Atakoy is almost a suburb to Istanbul proper. The fare to Aksaray is about 9 million TL (about USD 6 at the time of our visit) during daytime and 15 million TL (about USD 10) at night.
After getting to the hotel and settling in my new home for the next few days, I went downstairs to the reception to see whether they had an Ericsson phone charger. I lost my 6th this year so far in UK! Luckily, there are loads of travelers like me and I managed to borrow someone else's who left his in the hotel. This all took less than 35 min including travel time from the airport and I was on the phone to Valentina by 19.05 arranging my evening. You can't beat that.
If you have read my previous report 2 weeks earlier I met Valentina in Irmak during my one night stay on the way to UK. She had my number and tried to contact me while I was in a meeting and wanted to meet up with me on my way back. I told her I was in earlier than planned and was alone. She said she was on her way and asked me to wait for her at the lobby. I went downstairs in about 10 minutes but instead of the lobby waited for her at the Anchor Bar, which is just next to the hotel, and right at the entrance to the block where my room was. Before I finished my second drink, she was already at my table and the time was about 19.30. We chatted for a while, she had a drink as well (peach juice-not vodka!) and we headed for my room.
Valentina is not a stunner. She has very nice eyes and a nice body with a proper hourglass shape at the hips. Her tits are not gravity challenged but not that big (anything bigger than your palm is a waste anyway). However, she could lose a few pounds. She is 30 and has a kid but no stretch marks. I guess she can qualify a 7 on my scale (depending on my mood and how much I drank LOL). The great thing about her was her attitude and friendliness. I value attitude more than looks and you will read that in my Ankara episode later. Another thing worthwhile mentioning is how smooth and soft her skin is. Simply amazing.
We spent an hour simply kissing and fondling on the couch and then moved on to the bed. Due to my personal circumstances at the time, only position I was comfortable with was when she was on top of me. I believe she came before me and the whole session felt like as if we were two lovers meeting up after a long time. She was really into it but I have to add that her BJ technique can be improved but she did it BB.
At about 21.30 we washed up and I took her to the movies in the Galleria complex to see Charlie's Angels. Apparently, it was her first time in Turkey (7 months) and although the movie can simply be classified as shite, we had a blast laughing. At about half past midnight, we were back in our den and hungry as wolves. We ordered room service and ate up on the balcony watching the sea and the boats go by. She had a calamari salad and sea bass with a fruit platter (big enough for an army), and I had smoked salmon, mixed grill platter (which was nothing to shout about) and a Turkish dessert. The bill was slightly less than 60 million (USD 40), which I thought was a bargain considering what we paid for a beer in the bars we visited.
We went to bed quite late and had another shag. Initially, we cuddled up and I thought we were going to sleep but then I kissed her once and she kissed on so it turned out to be a full on shagging session.
As I had a disappointing evening 2 weeks prior (again see my report), after the movies I brokered a 2 day deal with Valentina as my fall back option during the weekend. I paid her USD 50 for the afternoon that day and paid her another USD 150 for the next 2 days. I must have failed to mention that to LE and BH while we were together, so the overall cost was slightly higher but still a worthwhile arrangement in my opinion. I also tipped her on my last morning so she costed me USD 250 altogether.

No_Commit
07-18-03, 01:37
july 11th, 2003 (d-day)
we woke up at around 8.30 in the morning and she said she had to be back home and dashed away. i was a bit disappointed not to get my morning sex and was left alone with a huge boner in my jocks. i don't know about you guys but i think i enjoy the morning sex better than an night one. anyway, after she left, i hung around the hotel for an hour or so and then went off to town for taking care of some personal business myself.
i was back in the hotel at about 2 pm. i was exhausted so i had my late lunch and had an afternoon nap thinking it would be a heavy night with my much anticipated get together with le, bh and cossack. i called up valentina and told her that i was to meet my friend at about 4 pm and take him to irmak to show him around. i told her i would pick her up on the way back to the hotel if bh also picked someone at irmak.
at about 15.30 i borrowed the phone charger again to juice up my batteries and took it back at about 4 pm. at which time, bunnyhopper was sending me messages to coordinate our get together. we hooked up at 4.10 or so, and i knew immediately this was going to be a good mongering event. i have met with few mongers from the forum and all turned out to be great people. anyway, after a short stopover at the crowne plaza, we headed straight to aksaray to the infamous irmak. we initially scouted that street but found out most girls were resident at irmak. we took up a table outside and ordered a beer for me and a coke for bh together with some calamaris to nibble on. i love calamaris but i am afraid neither bh nor her girlfriend liked them too much. i ended up eating it all. after a chat, and some encouragement, bh wanted to call up on this moldavian chick (luba) and the waiters asked us to move on inside. at that stage we freshened up our drinks and the girl asked for a whisky & coke (not vodka if my memory serves me right). as luba was conversational with neither turkish nor english, i thought perhaps valentina could help us with the deal. i recall bh asking her whether she was available for a few hours and she was mumbling no. i called up valentina and asked her to go between. at that time i had not realized valentina was living with her mom and apparently she was not aware of tina's profession. tina was reluctant to explain in russian so asked luba to call for another girl who spoke turkish. she did the trick and everything was settled. this intermediary girl (must be early 40's with a big momma look) asked for an advance payment of 80 million (usd 60) and i payed up on behalf of bh. we waited for tina to get prepared while we finished up our drinks. i called for the bill and if my memory is not failing me it was about 45 million inclusive of tips (a million or two each for every tom, dick and harry who happened to be there).
once tina was ready, we had a short walk to the main road and caught a cab. on the way to picking up tina, bh said he might need more time and asked me to call le to postpone our appointment to 21 instead of 20. le was hungry and to be fair to him i did not change the time thinking if bh needed more time i could always accompany le for a dinner while bh got rid of her load with this moldavian chick (she had gigantic hands!).
we arrived at the hotel and went to our rooms separately. when i was alone with tina we chatted for an hour or so drinking a couple of beers. it was bizarre, she was treating me as if i was her boyfriend and i was reciprocating. at about 7.30, i called up on bh to see how he was progressing and he confirmed he was going to be available little past 8. i invited them to my room for beers at 8. at that time, we got undressed for a quickie before 8 and finished up missionary passionately. just before 8, i went downstairs to meet up with le and with cossack if he showed up. until that time, there was no word from him so i did not really know what to expect. le was right on time and i took him to my room. cossack never showed up.
the beer arrived a minute after we did along with bh. after a brief chat while the beers lasted, we decided to head off for a dinner. as luba was only a few days old in istanbul i had promised to take her back where we picked her up. we all called for a cab and was in aksaray quite fast but the last few hundred meters was a complete jam which took more than the time it had taken from atakoy to there. we left luba at irmak and i couldn't help notice the crowd. the place was packed with girls ranging from 4 to 8 or 9.
we had our dinner at a corner restaurant with mezes and i followed up on with a lamb roast which was a bit dry but still very tasty. le and i went for raki while bh stuck with cokes. after finishing up my glass i realized i was feeling dizzy already (remember this is after 2 beers in irmak, another 2 in my room and 1 when everyone got together-and i was in no condition to drink anyway). so i decided to stop drinking anything with alcohol and switched to bubbly water.
our first stop was bacardi. the place is definitely the most upmarket joint we have visited that night. the décor actually looks like a nightclub and not a seedy joint. the music is listenable, and the girls are much better looking. we were shown a nice table overlooking the dance floor. we scouted a while of the local talent while having our drinks (this point onwards standard round of drinks includes a coke for bh, a mineral water for me and a beer for le together with "obligatory" mezes). we decided to move on after having finished up our drinks. the damage was 40 million.
next stop was serenda if i am not mistaken. on the way to serenda, we had a look into one of the smaller bars on the same small street as serenda. i can't remember the places name. but le was in front of me walking down the stairs and he turned around after having a peek inside. i never even had a chance to see what was available. having met and trust le's taste now, i can say with great confidence that it was crap. the cover charge in serenda was 20 million each which includes the first drink and the initiation mezes. the place was almost full with mongers and there were about 15 girls hanging about (none dancing). i gave up my seat to le, which at least faced the dance floor since i already had someone waiting for me in my room. after a while, some show started with a couple of girls doing a mediocre job (coming from asia and being a veteran of go-go bars, i can assure you this can only be classified as crap). we decided to move on to other bars.
at this point we popped our heads in sikago2000 (not chicago2000), and there was live music with unbearable sounds. we decided not to sit and funny enough one of the waiters having understood what put us off (or at least me) said the live music was about to finish in 5 minutes. the place looked like any other seedy bar around the world and i saw 5-10 blonde girls from a distance and cannot comment on their quality.
we headed up back to bacardi back again and took a similar quality table. it was about midnight at this stage and things were not looking up for my fellow le and bh (believe me knowing valentina waiting for me in my room was priceless at this stage-lol). le and bh was up at the dance floor scouting when i decided on this russian (olga) who had a very nice body (although a bit short) and a nice smiling face. what prompted my attention was that she was putting her best into her dancing while she was on stage and not just swaying around like some of the girls were. i always respect a woman who does her best whatever she does even as a prostitute. so i called her up to our table and wanted to see if she was willing to go for a sandwich action with valentina. olga said she did not know her and would not be willing so i released her. at that point bh was still having a dance with a beauty and le said he wanted to move on alone. we asked for the bill and it was 120 million including tip!!! damn expensive and the incremental drink to our first visit was olga's whisky. le went back to serenda and i hung around while bh picked someone up as we were going to share a taxi back home anyway.
bh had not made his mind up and asked me whether olga was available. we called her up again and bh striked up his deal in a nano second. on the way out, i had major trouble catching up with bh and olga as this waiter wanted more tips and he was not very subtle with his method either. anyway, i managed to catch up with bh without any additional cost.
one thing that amazed me was olga's comfort with us. remember only half an hour ago, i tried to get her for a sandwich action to my hotel and she refused. now she was leaving the club with bh and me in the same taxi on the way to the same hotel and she was ok with that. if it was me i would have been very suspicious but hey that's me. once we were at the hotel, we split up and i went upstairs only to find tina sleeping. it took me a good part of 5 minutes waiting at the door. anyway once i was inside, i took a shower and cuddled up next to valentina in the bed. i woke her up again and shagged her like there is no tomorrow. i had her twice and first was finished up doggy and her riding on me finished off the second. that was the best sex of the whole weekend. i was steaming horny from all those girls in the bacardi and tina was too damn accommodating. even writing this fr gives me a hard on. yummy!
i must have passed out from exhaustion.

No_Commit
07-18-03, 01:41
July 12th, 2003 (anticlimax)
Tina woke me up at 8.30 and she dashed off home. She was going to the beach for the day. I slept for a little while longer and had breakfast with BH comparing notes. We then went to Galleria to have a look around. After having tea, we wondered down to the department store and checked out the Turkish girls. Some were really nice looking with excellent bottoms. As I was planning to continue my mongering trip in Ankara with LE the next day and the girls on offer are mostly Turkish, the cosmetics girls wet my appetite.
We went back to the hotel, and sat with BH while I finished off packing, and to my nice surprise found out we were on the same flight to Ankara together with LE. I met him at the airport bar and we went off to our separate ways once we reached Ankara with a promise to get together the following evening for another boy's night out. That will be posted on the Ankara board shortly.

Findings:
1) Bacardi is definitely an upmarket joint BUT not my cup of tea. Paying USD 200 for a girl and USD 100 for the bar tab is unacceptable in my standards. I am not a cheap Charlie but USD 300 is simply way too expensive and not worthwhile, as alternatives do exist.
2) Serenda was a huge let down. Girl quality and availability is under par. And the fact that they do not accompany you to your own hotel is down right inconvenient.
3) Smaller clubs lack the quality and always hit and miss.
4) My favorite place is the Irmak area. Girls are friendly especially during daytime and very accommodating. My advice is get there at 8 or 9 and book for the whole night while in Istanbul. If you have the time do it at 5 or 6. And if you don't see someone you like just hang around and be patient.

Overall, I had a great time while being there. Both BH and LE are great guys and I will be looking forward to meeting up with them again.
Cheers…
NC

Connect 28
07-24-03, 18:39
no_commit,

I'll be in Istanbul early part of next week. Would you mind sharing the tel no. of Valentina? How does she look like. How much does she cost? My e-mail connect_28@yahoo.com

Appreciate for the help.

Hedonist
07-25-03, 15:42
Merhaba Local Expert:

Cold you realize your Odessa plans that you mentioned in Ukraine section of this board? I would love to hear about your experiences in Ukraine... Thanks!!!

Mashtee USA
07-28-03, 06:34
Dear Puta hunters.

I am 38 and spent my life in this field, knowing 5 languages beed the best help in this field. I Started hunting at the age of 23. My first stop was Istanbul. I have a lot of memories from this city. My best sex happened to be in this city. This is the Euro and Asia connector, for me it was a nice experience. i had good sex in this city not from Puta's. It is very easy to hunt girls in here and have them for the night. try beautiful Russians and you know what I am takling about. I was young at the time. The older people can do it for in many different ways. NEVER EVEN TRY GETTING CLOSE TO A TURKISH GIRL, YOU MAY GET KILLED.

Mashtee USA
07-28-03, 06:45
Dear Puta hunters.
I am 38 and spent my life in thies field, knowing 5 laguages beed the best help in this field. I Started hunting at the age of 23. My first stop was Istanbul. I have a lot of memories from this city. My best sex happened to be in this city. This is the Euro and Asia connector, for me it was a nice experience. i had good sex in this city not from Puta's. It is very easy to hunt girls in here and have them for the night. try beautiful Russians and you know what I am takling about. I was young at the time. The older people can do it for in many different ways. NEVER EVEN TRY GETTING CLOSE TO A TURKISH GIRL, YOU MAY GET KILLED. This is a Muslim country and locals are crazy and easily beat you up for sexual matters.

Lets start with the ***** house, you can get it for as little as $6.00 in taksim Square, They call it Karkhaneh. I personnaly did not like it, got there, after spending a few minutes around, I decided not to go there.

The easier one is spending time in your hotel lobby, this is my favorite. After a few hours sitting there, you find out what is going on, most likely there is a pimp around! make sure that your valuables are in a safe box. The house keepers may do the 5 finger discount! NEVER EVER LISTEN TO THE GUYS ON THE STREET OFFERING GIRLS AND DRUGS, REMEMBER THE MIDNIGHT EXPRESS, IT IS TRUE.

I have personally seen lots of guys being ripped off going with thouse guys off the street. They drug you easily and the police does not protect you!

Do not accept the offers from strangers, they make up stories and police is probably watching . you end up paying bribes and getting nothing.

If you check in a hoyel, expect somr girls knocking on your door, get them in and have fun, do not get more than one girl at the time, and always keep the valuables at the counter.

Taxi drivers rip you off easily. Make sure that you know the distance between points A and B not to be ripped off.

With all the warning I gave you, it worth to try Istanbul. Follow common scence.

Have fun

Mashtee USA

Local Expert
07-28-03, 08:03
Hedonist:

There have not been detailed reports on the Odessa section of this board, but there have been on a German board which I frequent as well. I have been told details by some German guys who have been to Odessa recently and they all said that it was not really worth it.
I believe, it is easier and cheaper to screw ex-soviet chicks in Istanbul, rather than getting a visa, a health insurance, etc, etc, for the Ukraine.

So, I didnt go there, but I am planning a trip to Kenya in winter, since the reports about that country have been positive on nearly every board....... and you can say nothing against € 30,- for an all-nighter with a 1,80m photomodel :-)

Masteroid
07-29-03, 10:55
Hi folks,

Does anyone know any other massage parlour than Nadide which operate like it, preferably in the European side? And what are the current prices like?

Mattador
07-31-03, 20:17
I visited Nadide (in the Nisantasi area) last week. Entrance is 50 million lira (= $35), which is only for a standard massage of 30-40 min, followed by a hand job. Inside is a cosy and relaxed atmosphere, where you're served tea or a softdrink of your choice from the house. On the phone, they claimed to have 15 girls, but were only 7-8, aged between 25-40, mostly 6-7s, with only one 9, who unfortunately left few minutes later than I was there.

Some girls speak a poor english, some don't at all. But fine, who cares ?

I got into a room with a fake blonde turkish girl, Sybell, 7 in rating, big butt, firm breasts, thick belly!. She asked to be tipped and told me that she would act comfortable (!). I tipped her a 20 million and she started massaging. once we got finished with the massaging and moved on to the handjob, she said she could do BJ for another 20 million. Agreed. No undressing. But you could touch her breasts, ass and the pussy if you could find your way through her unzipped pants!

andddd: BBBJ with CIM ;) Was decent enough for the price.
We chatted for a while afterwards, and she said fucking is not allowed in the premises, and she wouldn't do it, but I could still check with other girls once I'm in the room with the girl the next time I'm there.

Overall, not a fascinating place but was definitely worth the money.

Masteroid
08-01-03, 12:03
Hi Mattador,

Thanks for the price update. It'd be nice to know also whether there are any other places than just Nadide, if any form member has been.

One more thing I'd add to mattador's report is that, the girls always tell that fucking is not allowed in the premises, however it is naturally possible if you know "how to ask". Usually you can get to fuck the girl at your second visit (i.e. to the same girl, once you are familiar). Always remember to ask the girl's name if it is your first visit. Then when you go there next time you can choose any girl you want and say to her (in the room) "I visited 'X' last time, and now I hope you can do something extra". Then she'll be confident that you are not a LE but a real client.

The other and more direct way is when you two are alone in the massage room, say to the girl "I don't want a massage" and pay a tip her the same amount as the entrance fee ( for example if you paid $35 as the entrace fee, then pay her $35 even before she demands a tip). This is kind of a "password" for what you are expecting, i.e. what else would you want to get if you don't want a massage? :) They'll agree it and start directly fucking without a massage. The session includes BBBJ ( + CIM if you are lucky) and sex with condom. The girl won't undress totally, as she'll want to recover quickly if there is an inspection or something, but you can play with her breasts, butt nad pussy. Personally I like it better when a girl is not totally naked.

To conclude, it will cost around $70 in total. It may sound pricey when you can spend the whole-night -all-you-can-eat with a Russian chick, but it is a question of taste and it is worth trying.

You don't have to make any plans or calls in advance, just show up at the door.

Connect 28
08-03-03, 21:51
Last week I went to Irmak restaurant at around 9:30pm. It was very busy where the girls / hunter ratio was around 30%. Spent almost 2 hours mainly eating and chatting to other guys sitting at the same table. It was not possible to move between tables and the waiters try to circulate girls between tables but without much success. At the end could not spot anything impressive and moved to an other restaurant just down the road with some Russian alphabet written name. Apparently all the girls in Irmak and other restaurants on that street are from Russia, Ukraine or Moldavia, no Romanians. The waiters said that there was so much complaining about Romanian girls that the restaurants do not allow them to work anymore. I picked up a Russian. It was difficult to convince her to go to my hotel. She took $100 for all night. However, she was very mechanical and I sent her away after 2 hours. Next time I will try Irmak at an earlier time to see whether the hunter crowd is less.

no_commit I would still appreciate some info on Valentina if you don't mind to share since I could not find anything impressive at Irmak to meet up next time.

Good luck to all hunters

Connect

Cool Morris
08-04-03, 04:04
Hello Friends:

It seems to me that everyone here wants a Turkish chick but have these ridiculous fears about getting their weeners chopped off if they make a move. Let's face it, women are women, Turkish or non-Turkish. As a person who is part Turkish part American I can tell you that Turkish chicks really dig foreigners. The problem is if you rush them, it won't work. You can't look at most Turkish chicks for a quick hop in the sack. They are an investment, it might take weeks, but eventually they'll put out. And yes, they are crazy horny, at least the ones I hooked up with.

But anyways, what I am really looking for is some information on good solid escort in Istanbul. And this is why I need it: I don't have weeks to woo them. So any info will be appreciated.

Also what's with these cosmetics girls? Do they put out fast or something? Does being around Loreal and Maybeline make them go slutty? ;)

Thanks

BunnyHopper
08-04-03, 22:38
Connect_28

A bit of a shame that your experience at and around Irmak was not better - i am sure it is the "pot-luck" effect.

During the weekend in July, the talent was quite good - but we were there on a weekend, I don't know if that makes a difference to this level of girl/type of joint.

Did you see the Hotel across the road from Irmak ?
Any action there ? Suss it out ?

Also check your private email.

Mattador,

Does Nadide still have a sign outside it on the main road ?

No_Commit
08-05-03, 07:16
Dear Connect,
Please refer to my previous posts on Valentina re her looks, cost, and services. I don't keep her number any longer but you can ask for her if you are in Irmak again. I believe she is a veteran there. You don't actually have to stick with one joint on that street. Best to walk up and down once eyeing the talent while ignoring the touts outside. Once you fancy someone then go in for the kill. There are at least 10 similar places on that tiny pedestrian street. Good luck...

Mr. Bunnyhopper,
A very warm hello to you. I am back at the salt mines as of today!

Novice
08-05-03, 14:53
Dear Cossack, and everybody else,

I have been reading the forum avidly, and enjoy the info very much, I do travel to Istanbul from New York City very regularly, and I will be there again as of Aug 6th. I have been to Bacardi and Serenda in the past, and were not terribly impressed. Though this mysterious location in Kumburgaz sounds terrific, and will have a car available to me in Istanbul, so would very much like to check it out, if anybody interested together. So I do need the info on how to reach this location. If anybody could help, will be grateful.

Thanks.

Novice

Mattador
08-05-03, 23:46
Originally posted by BunnyHopper

Mattador,

Does Nadide still have a sign outside it on the main road ? [/i]BunnyHopper,

Yes, Nadide has a sign that reads: Nadide & Enjoy, with 2 phone numbers.

Sorry guys, I don't have the no's with me now, but can post them later. Anyway, I'm sure you can just walk in without any reservation. It's either on the first or second small street on the right once you've passed the Valikonegi & Rumeli street junction coming from the Taksim area.

There's no indication from outside or from the sign that it's a massage parlor though. just walk up the apartment building and ring the bell that reads Nadide.

I'm not aware of any other similar sort of places in Istanbul.

Street Sleuth
08-06-03, 00:13
I will be visiting Istanbul for a week in September. Where is this 'Irmak' area? How do I get there?

I prefer to try and find Russian women (both working and the regular kind), as I speak a bit of Russian. Any help will be appreciated.

Novice
08-06-03, 19:26
hi
this is my third attempt to post a message, and nothing seems to be coming up in the forum, what is going on???
novice

Stockbroker
08-09-03, 12:17
Hey Novice...
Take TEM by car (trans europe motorway,kind of turnpike) when you get "Marmara Eregli Toll station" take Kumburgaz exit.Then you reach Kumburgaz but i have no information about that farm which i am concerning too..Kumburgaz is a suburban,kind of summer city.Marmara sea is on your left side driving to Kumburgaz

Street sleuth...
You must find Laleli or Aksaray first..They are next to each other..
There goes a manin road from Aksaray to sea side.When you walk down the main road ,Laleli area is on your left side whole block...irmak is on that street on the left side while walking to sea direction..
Dont pass the railway bridge...
bye..
stockbroker

Mert29
08-11-03, 11:32
Dear COSSACK,

I am planning a visit to Kumburgaz area coming week, and I am very eager to pay a visit to this place in Kumburgaz. Please reply me and let me know the details of this place.

e-mail: mert2964@hotmail.com

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to remove the multiple periods at the ends of sentences. To avoid future delays, please use just one period at the end of sentences in future reports. Thanks!

Thanks

Priamos
08-13-03, 07:29
street sleuth,

let me try to put the rep001tered pieces of information about the street/bar scene a bit more into system. (unfortunately i haven't been in istanbul for a couple of months, so my geographics is a bit whacky by now.)

the main artery in the action area is mustapha kemal cad. it connects the biggest (and ugliest) road junction in town with the seashore. it is located in the yenikapi neighbourhood, a narrow sliver of blocks sandwiched between laleli and aksaray. (this is important because there's a street of almost the same name in aksaray, and taxi drivers tend to get confused.)

if you start from the junction and walk toward the sea:

1) irmak is a small street on your left (first or second street) full of innocent-looking street cafes.

2) the (in)famous bacardi club is in a shopping mall to your right on the first part of the steet. there's a diminutive sign outside, the club is in the basement.

3) toward the end of the street there are some music bars to your right ("muzikhol" in turkish). some of them are rip-offs, but the slightly seedy big pub is actually good value, especially in the late afternoon.

4) there is some street action on mustapha kemal itself, but it is not organised: it seems largely confined to girls who otherwise work in muzikhols.

on the area more generally:

the area west of mustapha kemal (or to your right, as you walk down the street) is full of muzikhols, some of them "honest", some of them rip-offs. the neighbourhood is dominated by shops selling car parts and other items to russian suitcase traders, but there are plenty of inconspicuous little places as well. expect to pay 10-15 dollars for drinks; 50 dollars to the girl (1-2 hours); 30-40 dollars to a hotel of her choice (some but not all will go to your place).

on rip-offs:

turks are quite self-ironic people, and unless you run into hardened criminals (they are more common in the streets than inside the muzikhols) they consider their little rip-off tricks as "outsmarting" rather "robbing" you. you can get a long way by simply smiling and saying you will have nothing of that. reject the most outrageous tricks outhand (e.g. ask you to pay for a full buffet for having eaten a few nuts); negotiate about the others (e.g. if the lady drink turns out to be 10 times normal price, smile and say, "look, i'll give you one xx dollars, and no bones will be broken"). it works every time - but keep smiling, to them it's a game and righteous anger works against intentions.

Cuesta
08-13-03, 12:27
Originally posted by stockbroker
Hey Novice...
Take TEM by car (trans europe motorway,kind of turnpike) when you get "Marmara Eregli Toll station" take Kumburgaz exit.Then you reach Kumburgaz but i have no information about that farm which i am concerning too..Kumburgaz is a suburban,kind of summer city.Marmara sea is on your left side driving to Kumburgaz

Street sleuth...
You must find Laleli or Aksaray first..They are next to each other..
There goes a manin road from Aksaray to sea side.When you walk down the main road ,Laleli area is on your left side whole block...irmak is on that street on the left side while walking to sea direction..
Dont pass the railway bridge...
bye..
stockbroker

Cuesta
08-13-03, 12:31
Dear Stockbroker,

By now we all know how to get to Kumburgaz , is this ranch like place on the road to Silivri , on the right hand side ,any peculiar signs to spot the place any name for this hotel.

I will appreciate if you could let us know.

I have been there last week there is a hotel past downtown Kumburgaz on the right hand side with a parking lot and a restaurant.Babes were 5-8 and I was told that in order to enter the disco you have to be a couple.

If any expertise in this field please advise.

Mahatma
08-14-03, 21:20
Dear Folks,

I know Kumburgaz area very well and I would really like to learn this famous place as well. If you can describe me the place, I can give you the exact name of the hotel. Here are some names which can help you to remember that particular hotel:

Princess Hotel Kumburgaz: Largest one in that area. Probably this is not that hotel

Marin Hotel: A 3 star hotel very close to Slivri area, just 6 km.

AquaClub Hotel: A gay friendy hotel in Kumburgaz area. This may be the one....

Bono
08-15-03, 04:18
Originally posted by Mahatma
Dear Folks,

I know Kumburgaz area very well and I would really like to learn this famous place as well. If you can describe me the place, I can give you the exact name of the hotel. Here are some names which can help you to remember that particular hotel:

Princess Hotel Kumburgaz: Largest one in that area. Probably this is not that hotel

Marin Hotel: A 3 star hotel very close to Slivri area, just 6 km.

AquaClub Hotel: A gay friendy hotel in Kumburgaz area. This may be the one....
I dont know but isn't the purpose of the forum to provide info on women friendly hotel and not gay friendly>

Mahatma
08-16-03, 08:00
Originally posted by Bono
I dont know but isn't the purpose of the forum to provide info on women friendly hotel and not gay friendly> I think there is a misunderstanding, I am not trying to advertise the gay-friendly hotels in Kurmburgaz area, I am just trying to help to those who would like to visit that FAMOUS hotel in Kumburgaz. And, interestingly, no one knows the name of the FAMOUS hotel....If anyone describe me the location of that hotel in Kumburgaz, I can provide you the address and phone numbers because I go to Kumburgaz very frequently for business reasons. I can stop and search the hotel and then can issue the address and phone numbers.

Connect 28
08-23-03, 23:36
Went to Irmak during the week, very busy and low quality. \i think we need to wait till the summer is over.

connect 28

BunnyHopper
08-24-03, 13:32
The Street Scene in Aksaray

BunnyHopper
08-24-03, 13:33
Outside Irmak

BunnyHopper
08-24-03, 13:34
Outside Irmak - as i was walking away

BunnyHopper
08-24-03, 13:35
Olga from Bacardi - before i did her Doggy Style with a Pig-tail in each hand

BunnyHopper
08-24-03, 13:36
Olga After I did her having the Post Coital Smoke !

BunnyHopper
08-24-03, 13:39
Tanya - the Modovian Nymph - posing for her "Daddy"

BunnyHopper
08-24-03, 13:41
Tanya - a nice cold glass of wine to cool off with after a round.

Mert29
08-25-03, 06:44
I went to Bacardi, Saturday was very crowded. I paid 150 bucks for 2 hour session at home.

It was nice.

Is there any news from this ranch in Kumburgaz area?

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

Rico Cafe
08-25-03, 20:04
I will be in Turkey in September and want to make the most of it. I'd like to hear of any special advice for FS massages, incall/outcall, special clubs etc. I don't speak the language so I do want to go to American friendly places. I'm interested in Istanbul, Antalya, and Adana.

Thanks!

Vegamars
09-02-03, 02:04
Just been to Aksaray region a few hours ago and I think I have to let you know about the reality now!

Forget about Serenda, Bacardi, Europa, Chicago, etc. where you pay 3-4 times more for what you think is the better quality in the dark but in fact are exactly the same girls you see outside on the streets of Aksaray!

The cheapest and best place for action is Irmak Restaurant where one bottle of beer costs $3 and where you shouldn't pay more than $20 for the bill under normal circumstances. The best time to go is around 9.30-10 p.m. and when you get there just feel relaxed and comfortable. I was there just tonight and it took me only 5 minutes to spot the Moldovan beauty from Tiraspol( actually another country called Trasnistriya or Prinistrovya in Russian)! She agreed on $50 for 3 hrs. Never ever pay more and stay away from Romanians and Russians! Of course,this amount of charge is still very high compared to that on Northern Cyprus, but still quite satisfactory! You can easily enjoy what you're doing with a Moldovan or Ukrainian without any restrictions and you'll never know what's gonna show up next based on your imagination! The surprise with me for this time was that I could easily persuade the girl for not using condoms at all!

Rico Cafe
09-03-03, 01:49
Where is Aksaray? Is that a part of Istanbul?

Mert29
09-03-03, 14:30
Where is this Irmak Restaurant, the adress or explanation please.

Thanks

Vegamars
09-04-03, 18:49
Aksaray is just 5 min by car from Taksim, center of Istanbul and any Turkish person would love to show you where Irmak Restaurunt is. Hang out in the restaurunt between 9.30-11 p.m. and in the disco after midnight. Remember to stick to ONLY Ukrainians and Moldovans!!

BunnyHopper
09-17-03, 00:03
Another picture of Tanya taken with a regular camera.

BunnyHopper
09-17-03, 00:05
Hmm ! I'll try again...

BunnyHopper
09-17-03, 00:06
Heres another

BunnyHopper
09-17-03, 00:06
...and another