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Russia always uses the same playbook, blame the other country, it's their fault, we have the right to have military exercises in our country, etc, etc, etc. A lot of rhetoric. The world is watching and I don't think they will allow Russia to 'invade' Ukraine for any reason. Clearly Russia is the aggressor here. The US and Canada have soldiers in Western Ukraine just outside Lviv trying to train their troop. The US has sold them some equipment. If there is any issues, Russia should go resolve them with the UN, not by military action.
But if you feel unsafe, go to Tijuana where it is probably more dangerous and see Elizabeth.
I believe there is a very strong chance that Russia will invade Ukraine. Russian officials are now citing reasons why a invasion would be justified. So it is a good idea to avoid Ukraine & Kiev until things settle down.
Vadikpavlov
05-25-21, 09:36
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Hello there, is there any red light districts in Ukraine, I'm planning to go to Kiev, Odessa, Lviv in about a month and wondering if there is something like that in the country.
Hello there, is there any red light districts in Ukraine, I'm planning to go to Kiev, Odessa, Lviv in about a month and wondering if there is something like that in the country.No, its nothing like Western Europe. I miss being in Antwerp where you can pick out skinny Romanian girls. Everything is more hidden in Ukraine and takes a lot more effort unless you speak Russian. Lviv is a beautiful city, but it is a very hard city for mongering. I would only go there if want to be a tourist or have deep pockets.
Ivan Buyan
06-08-21, 06:45
Hello there, is there any red light districts in Ukraine, I'm planning to go to Kiev, Odessa, Lviv in about a month and wondering if there is something like that in the country.Hey man,
No, there's no red light district in Ukraine. Officially prostitution is illegal but you still may find and get all you need using strip clubs and online sites, Telegram messenger.
Hey man,
No, there's no red light district in Ukraine. Officially prostitution is illegal but you still may find and get all you need using strip clubs and online sites, Telegram messenger.
No, its nothing like Western Europe. I miss being in Antwerp where you can pick out skinny Romanian girls. Everything is more hidden in Ukraine and takes a lot more effort unless you speak Russian. Lviv is a beautiful city, but it is a very hard city for mongering. I would only go there if want to be a tourist or have deep pockets.Thanks guys, a bit disappointed but hope I enjoy it.
Henri Dufresne
08-28-21, 08:15
I think that there are more and more scams in Kiev. Let me explain, a woman may make ask you to pay more than twice what a local would pay for sex. For example, if a woman asks a local to $80 for one hour, she will ask an American man to pay $200 for the same service. If you want to know how much an escort should cost go to.
http://kiev.ukrgo.com/view_subsection.php?id_subsection=146 and visit this link from chrome to translate it. We all know that many pictures fake but the prices aren't fake, that's ukrgo is a reliable source of information.
Know the price before meeting someone.
The average salary is still 500 dollars in Kiev today. If a CEO of a company earns three times this salary, it is still really low compared to our standards in the west. Don't let you be influenced by these young women who pretend that you have to pay a lot of money for sex. They are manipulative. Local men don't pay a lot of money to have sex with Ukrainian women.
Additionally, I found that there are greedier women in the Ukrainian female population now than before. For them, these women never talked about the COVID19. They pretend this had no effects on their business. They lie. (There are many liars in Ukraine) because many escort girls in Ukraine used to find their customers in Nightclubs back in 2019, then the nightclubs closed. From what I know, because of the covid19 pandemic they had less customers than before.
Some girls used to travel to west Europe but many flights were cancelled during some times. There were less work everywhere in West Europe anywhere. Anyways, as I said, there were less customers in general.
That's why I want to warn you. Many women claim that they work as usual. They even asked more money than in 2019. So my explanation is the following: Since these women don't work, they desperately need money. So, they are ready to lie, to manipulate even more to get there.
I never heard so much lies in Ukraine from escort girls. I have never heard so many women saying that they are students that they have a job. In reality, these women are escorts because the economy of Ukraine is maybe the worst in Ukraine but they will never tell you. Look at the figures on the worldbank website. You will see that Ukraine is poorer than Bulgaria, Romania, Russia. Local Ukrainian women need you but you don't need them. Don't forget that you are the prize, not the other way around.
Some guys thought that women in villages around Kiev were more modest. It is not true anymore. Since these women have access to the internet, they think they are worth more than in reality. Don't believe the many lies of Ukrainian escort girls.
Let me give you an example, once an escort girl told me she could find 2 sugar daddies in Kiev who would pay $500 to her on a monthly basis. I asked two other escort girls about this. They told me it was complete BS. There aren't sugar daddy in Kiev in the middle of the Covid19 pandemic. The covid19 discourages men to fool around as much as before. I know that the greedy escort lied to me because she said she used to meet her customers in nightclubs and nightclubs were closed at that time because of COVID19.
Henri Dufresne
08-28-21, 08:24
Don't be the cuck, be the bull.
Numerous Ukrainian women want to turn you into a sugar daddy. They want your money and you will get nothing in return. This situation is quite prevalent online. For instance, on camgirl website, Ukrainian women look for a sugar daddy. I discovered something quite funny. Many Ukrainian camgirls are also escort girls. I think most of them are. For sure, it is difficult to quantify. Usually, you can see it online when a camgirl receives messages on her smartphone in the middle of the night. Normally noone would text you at 1 am in the morning. She receives messages from her customers.
So, she will pretend to be a "normal" woman when she talks to a customer online. They usually pretend to be students or office workers. Then, you can see that these camgirls are online the whole night. They can't go to work in the morning if they were up all night. It is not possible. So, the online customer is the cuck because she will act as if she was difficult to get and that you have to court her prior to dating her. She will pretend that you must invite her to the restaurant. Meanwhile, other guys are texting her to ask her when she will be available (the bulls). The same girl will give her pussy without complaints and long discussion to the first customer who is texting her.
So, if you visit camgirl websites, these women pretend to be difficult to get but in reality they say yes to everyone who ask for sex.
Henri Dufresne
03-04-22, 14:24
The war has started.
I receive messages from Ukrainian women now, saying: "please help me". Before the war the same women didn't write me. Now, they want to take advantage of my money. In this war, since Ukrainian men are forced to stay in Ukraine, I would only help men, not women. Women can stay in the background, while men fight on the frontline.
Ukrainian gold diggers behave just like before:
A gold digger told me that she was upset because all breadwinners (men) were on the frontline, and now, no men work to buy the bread (this is what a woman from Donetsk told me few days ago). Both in the Luhansk and Donetsk republics, men are enrolled by force; not women. In Ukraine, men must stay in Ukraine and only women and children are authorized to leave Ukraine.
Nothing has changed these women want to be financially supported by men. Men are more likely to die than women during wartime. So, when a Ukrainian woman wants money from me, I tell that it is only possible if she does something in return for me. The only useful thing they can bring is sex.
Still during wartime, the gold diggers keep on going their game by asking me if I am single to know if they could marry me.
Whether Ukraine becomes part of Russia in the future makes no difference. The mindset of local women will remain. If you believe in their narrative, they will steel you a lot of money.
So, their gold digger mindset does not change at all even when their country is under attack. Several women asked me for money since last Thursday. I had sex with them in exchange for money. This sounds unrespectful but there is a context. In the past, these women never saved money. They always spent all their money. They had no savings. They live like children who expect a parent to feed them. They want to find a man aka a cash cow who will work on their behalf so that they will not need to work.
Gentleman Travel
03-22-22, 18:07
Given that many Ukrainian women have left Ukraine with many more to come, how do you think is the best way to get in contact with them once they settle elsewhere (including Canada, my country)?
I used to use Mamba to meet FSU women living in USA and Canada, but it seems kind of dead now. And I used Romance in Russia to meet girls in Ukraine. But both these are Russian sites.
What dating apps do you think Ukrainian women will use now? And I am looking for something that specifically allows me to search for Ukrainian girls. If they are on Tinder that doesn't help much, because most women will be Canadian locals.
Any thoughts?
Yeah I been thinking the same. I think some may use Seeking arrangement, free for women, 100 plus per month for us guys.
It may be possible to find some locally in your area on Social media.
Another possibility is offering accommodation, no guarantee of sex of course and might end up with alot more problems than its worth.
I had planned to visit Kiev for sex and now many of those women are in my country. Still early days, the women are only just arriving and getting settled in..time to keep plotting 😉
Neurosynth
04-13-22, 05:30
There is a genocide going on. It's likely to get much much worse for Ukrainians soon. Tens of thousands more dead.
There is always some degree of benefiting from the misfortune of others in this game. But there's also a line to not be crossed.
Salivating over Ukrainian refugees is way over the line.
There is a genocide going on. It's likely to get much much worse for Ukrainians soon. Tens of thousands more dead.
There is always some degree of benefiting from the misfortune of others in this game. But there's also a line to not be crossed.
Salivating over Ukrainian refugees is way over the line.Fully agree with this. I have never thought it morally wrong to pay money for sex, when it is with mutual consent. However taking advantage of refugees at their lowest point isn't something I want promoted here.
Salivating over Ukrainian refugees is way over the line.Yeah guys you make some valid points there, and I don't want to get into arguments. I rarely ever argue with anyone on ISG.
BUT.
As the Ukrainian ladies integrate into our societies, some may be keen to meet local men for Romantic or Paid dates. Many ladies in Ukraine were on the game before the war and will continue to ply that trade in their new countries. So why not support them if opportunities arise.
The Ukraine lady in the article below didn't waste too much time in getting to know local men anyway, and if I come across similar Ukraine ladies in my area I won't hesitate to meet them.
https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/ukrainian-woman-accused-sex-working-23650449
As the Ukrainian ladies integrate into our societies, some may be keen to meet local men for Romantic or Paid dates. Many ladies in Ukraine were on the game before the war and will continue to ply that trade in their new countries. So why not support them if opportunities arise.
The Ukraine lady in the article below didn't waste too much time in getting to know local men anyway, and if I come across similar Ukraine ladies in my area I won't hesitate to meet them.What a charitable fella, real heart of gold right there.
Neurosynth
04-15-22, 07:54
Yeah guys you make some valid points there, and I don't want to get into arguments. I rarely ever argue with anyone on ISG.
BUT….
Wanking, if there is anyone on this board who can navigate the inevitably ambiguous moral waters of commercial sex, I'm sure it's you.
And absolutely, one can imagine arrangements with Ukrainian women that are non-exploitive.
But what I was observing was a sort of fascination with the mass effect, and little concern towards winnowing out desperate refugees. It sounded more like anticipating the opportunity to pounce.
CuddlyForest
04-15-22, 09:48
I had been wanting to visit Ukraine for a long time before this. Kind of a real let down, it won't be the same for a long time.
Yeah guys
The Ukraine lady in the article below didn't waste too much time in getting to know local men .
https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/ukrainian-woman-accused-sex-working-23650449I wonder what made this UA Lady go all the way to Tipperary, pre arranged meets!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mPLS5nNFWTU
Henri Dufresne
07-18-22, 12:58
I am in touch with several escorts from Ukraine.
Some of them are now in Turkey and they are active. So, I think that if you visit a Turkey brothel, you will find many Ukrainian escorts there.
Some of them are in Poland, but it looks like it does not work so well to be an escort in Poland.
Strangely enough, I don't know any Ukrainian pros who moved to Germany or Austria.
I am in touch with several escorts from Ukraine.
Some of them are now in Turkey and they are active. So, I think that if you visit a Turkey brothel, you will find many Ukrainian escorts there.
Some of them are in Poland, but it looks like it does not work so well to be an escort in Poland.
Strangely enough, I don't know any Ukrainian pros who moved to Germany or Austria.Poland (not only in Warsaw), Spain (Murcia is popular), Montenegro. Is what my contacts tell me. And of course Dubai and Antalaya.
I am in touch with several escorts from Ukraine.
Many are taking a break. Hookers have family to worry about too.
I noticed that Mcdonalds will soon reopen in Ukraine, they've been closed throughout the war, however, they've continued to pay their employees, very admirable. Maybe Mcdonalds knows something like Russia is finished and will soon collapse.
Hello everyone,
I am planning a trip for 4-5 nights in October. I don't have much money so I searched cheap Balkan countries and Central European countries. Unfortunately, all strip clubs are more expensive than in Ukraine. I especially miss Kharkiv's strip clubs. Anyway.
My questions:
1) Do you think it is safe to travel to Lviv? Or to Kiev?
2) Do strip clubs work in Lviv and Kiev?
3) Did the war and internal turmoil create a security problem? So, is it dangerous to travel as a tourist in terms of public order?
4) Last time I was in Ukraine in the summer of 2021. Is there an increase in prices in dollars? I'm talking prostitute, alcohol and strip club prices.
5) My last question: Is there any European country you would recommend that is the same price as Ukraine in terms of prostitute prices and strip club expenses?
Thank you all.
Henri Dufresne
08-31-22, 06:06
Hello everyone,
I am planning a trip for 4-5 nights in October. I don't have much money so I searched cheap Balkan countries and Central European countries. Unfortunately, all strip clubs are more expensive than in Ukraine. I especially miss Kharkiv's strip clubs. Anyway.
My questions:
1) Do you think it is safe to travel to Lviv? Or to Kiev?
2) Do strip clubs work in Lviv and Kiev?
3) Did the war and internal turmoil create a security problem? So, is it dangerous to travel as a tourist in terms of public order?
4) Last time I was in Ukraine in the summer of 2021. Is there an increase in prices in dollars? I'm talking prostitute, alcohol and strip club prices..1/ Don't forget that all airports are closed in Ukraine. I think it takes 16 hours to reach Kiev from Warsawa (at Polish border) by train. By car, it takes 9 h00.
I would suggest to take a taxi from Poland:
https://fasttaxi.com.ua/mezhdugorodnee-taksi-varshava-aeroport/
2/ I am sorry, I don't know about Strip clubs, but I know that escort agencies are hiring in Kiev, (I saw an ad on the internet). So, I think business is coming back to normal.
3/ A significant number of foreigners are now in Ukraine. Let's take an example of the youtuber, Johnny FD:
https://www.youtube.com/c/JohnnyFD
Some Ukrainian went back to Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/c/TayaUkraine/videos
I don't think it is dangerous in Lviv, Odessa or Kiev. The trip is the problem number ONE.
4/ Prices of escorts remain unchanged but I don't know about the rest.
5/ Really, in 2022, I don't think there is an alternative. Current situation is complicated. Now, in FKK clubs of Germany there are less Russians and Ukrainians. Many Ukrainians prostitutes are in Ukraine and they don't want to leave Ukraine. It is too complicated to leave Ukraine because of the time it takes to leave Ukraine. Some women also think that taking the train is unsafe. So, the situation is really strange. So, this means that right now, in Kiev for instance, there is a good choice of beautiful prostitutes.
Proof, you can find many classified ads of escorts on the local websites:
http://kiev.ukrgo.com/view_subsection.php?id_subsection=146
I chatted with some of these women, they prefer to stay in Ukraine rather than fly to Dubai or go to Germany.
Henri Dufresne
09-05-22, 04:04
At ricko85.
I would like to develop my opinion about going to Ukraine right now. Most of the country is peaceful right now.
I watched the classified ads of pros on ukrgo (see link in one of my posts) and I have never seen so many beautiful women since a while. I think that the women who wanted to go to Dubai (it is an immensely popular destination for young Ukrainian prostitutes nowadays) have decided to stay in Ukraine. I think that now, in Ukraine, there are big opportunities to have sex with the hottest beautiful women this country offers. These women need money.
Also, you can convince semi pro to take the leap because their situation would be much worse if they would work in a bar of Dubai.
Now, many prostitutes who moved to Poland are disappointed. They thought they could work in Poland, but they can't. They don't have enough job in Poland.
So, many women who moved to Poland either moved back to Ukraine or went to Turkey. I thought there would be an influx of Ukrainian prostitutes into Germany, Spain because of the war but this didn't happen.
To me, it looks like many pros have decided to resume their job in Ukraine, especially in Nightclubs of Ukraine. Nightclubs and lounge bars reopened, and you can find pros in the night.
The biggest problem with the new generation of Ukrainian pro isn't the war, this is their gold digger mindset. Many women from generation Z, would like you to support them financially. They may use the war as an excuse. So, follow a simple rule. Never give money for free. Always ask for sex in exchange for money. Otherwise, you may pay them and they will vanish in the air. So, in this case, you must make an offer and know the local prices. To know it contact a woman on ukrgo via whatsapp. Use google translate to translate in Ukraine so that the girl will think you are Ukrainian and she will tell you the local prices; not the gringo prices. Then, once you know the prices for your area, you can talk to a woman in a bar or a club, and make an offer. Ukrainian women are not like Romanian women, don't take it bad if you offer sex in exchange for money. A woman may say no, but if you give her your telegram account she may change her mind afterwards.
There is just a right way to ask for it. Ask for sex in exchange for a money gift and you give an offer with a price. If she does not understand it is time to use a translation app.
At ricko85.
I would like to develop my opinion about going to Ukraine right now. Most of the country is peaceful right now.
I watched the classified ads of pros on ukrgo (see link in one of my posts) and I have never seen so many beautiful women since a while. I think that the women who wanted to go to Dubai (it is an immensely popular destination for young Ukrainian prostitutes nowadays) have decided to stay in Ukraine. I think that now, in Ukraine, there are big opportunities to have sex with the hottest beautiful women this country offers. These women need money.
Also, you can convince semi pro to take the leap because their situation would be much worse if they would work in a bar of Dubai.
Now, many prostitutes who moved to Poland are disappointed. They thought they could work in Poland, but they can't. They don't have enough job in Poland..You are right in your report. Many Ukraine girls come back to Ukraine (Europe was not as easy as they thought and difficult to make money). Some girls prices is so crazy in Kiev now. Both with an indi and in salon / pro places. And again in the salon / apartments the girls does not get much of the money for being with a client (it is the people there run the places there take the most). And many indi have the gold digger mindset. But you can be lucky to find a good girl for the right prices. (it take time). Never just pay there asking price. And still not many tourist here. And many people here have no job. If they are lucky to have a job the salary much much lower than before the war.
If you are a young foreigner man perhaps more easy I not know.
Which nightbars or lounge bars are you talking about?? (we still have curfew at 23:00 here).
And if they are open you have to stay there till the next morning 05:00.
In Kiev we have air alarm (some days many and some days none). And it is long time since there was an attract (explosion) in Kiev but it is war and we never know when the next explosion will be in Kiev. So I can not tell you if Kiev is safe or not. Also you most remember that with train from Przemysl to Kiev it can take 11-14 hours (dependent on the situation). Some of my friends will not travel that many hours so instead of going to Kiev they stay in Lviv for some day's.
Henri are you in Kiev now?
Henri Dufresne
09-09-22, 06:13
At Nero6,
You are right about the nightclubs. The curfew is still here all over Ukraine, I have just found this article:
https://zaxid.net/lvivski_politseyski_zatrimali_ozbroyenogo_porushnika_komendantskoyi_godini_n1548542
In other words, everybody should be home at 23 h00 in Ukraine and there is no exception.
In fact, I have chatted with some Ukrainian prostitutes and I think they tried to manipulate me. They made me believe their life came back to normal but it can't be true. They face major constraints. The real problem is their attitude.
In reality, they should beg for work and lower their price because they can't work as before. But today, these girls want to make us believe, they have as many customers as before and they are ready to pay as much and even more than before.
It can't be possible because these women can't work from 23 h00 and 5 h00. No guy will take the risk to be arrested by the Ukrainian police in the night while trying to visit a pro.
I find the new generation of Ukrainian prostitutes cocky and greedy in the midst of this war period.
At Nero6,
You are right about the nightclubs. The curfew is still here all over Ukraine, I have just found this article:
https://zaxid.net/lvivski_politseyski_zatrimali_ozbroyenogo_porushnika_komendantskoyi_godini_n1548542
In other words, everybody should be home at 23 h00 in Ukraine and there is no exception.
In fact, I have chatted with some Ukrainian prostitutes and I think they tried to manipulate me. They made me believe their life came back to normal but it can't be true. They face major constraints. The real problem is their attitude.
In reality, they should beg for work and lower their price because they can't work as before. But today, these girls want to make us believe, they have as many customers as before and they are ready to pay as much and even more than before.
It can't be possible because these women can't work from 23 h00 and 5 h00. No guy will take the risk to be arrested by the Ukrainian police in the night while trying to visit a pro.
I find the new generation of Ukrainian prostitutes cocky and greedy in the midst of this war period.Curfew is in full effect in Ukraine.
Bars and clubs are shut by 23:00 unless you find one that keeps customers locked in until 05:00.
Your best bet is an all-nighter with a prostitute if you need extended hours. A few offer discounts for this option.
You also have understood there are plenty of Ukrainian men who cannot leave see these women at local prices compared to tourists who are pretty scared at the moment.
Also. Many pros have left Ukraine for Western Europe and the USA through visa applications so I guess the remaining girls have become greedy.
Thank you all for the replies. I'm going to Krakow in mid-October and will try to cross over to Lviv by road. I will share my experiences with you.
These photos at Ukrgo are exploding, and I started planning going to Ukraine.
Airbnb owner in Kiev told me there are trains from city przemysl (Poland) train to kyiv.
But it looks like half day trip while there are still threats of Putin to bomb Ukraine with his nuclear toy.
Girls are asking amazingly low price for staying over night, since there is curfew, and foreigners can provide much better staying with food and drinks.
These girls seem to be really stressed. To be really horny out of survival instinct.
Lviv seems to be teeming with hot girls who are pinched between EU countries and Eastern Ukraine war zones.
Is anyone having fun in Lviv?
Henri Dufresne
09-15-22, 10:24
Thank you all for the replies. I'm going to Krakow in mid-October and will try to cross over to Lviv by road. I will share my experiences with you.You are right because there are no opportunities in Poland. For all the guys who read this. In Poland, you will never have as many opportunities as in Ukraine. You will just get frustrated in Krakow and Warsaw by watching hot female Ukrainian refugees without being able to talk to them. Some months ago, I thought: "wow it us great, Ukrainian women visit the west and we will be able to have fun with them because they need money. This didn't happen. There are not more classified ads of Ukrainian escorts on local websites in the west. Also, Ukrainian refugees in the west are not as open as if you would meet them in Ukraine. Also I didn't see an increase in streetwalkers. Maybe it us because of language barrier but anyways. All these chicks are open for business when they are in Ukraine and a translation app will do the job. You just need to be aware of local prices. Don't contribute to inflation. Ukrainian women are more relaxed in their country.
Also, I don't know if I mentioned it before but the long trip from Poland to Kiev by train works in our advantage. Since all airports are closed Ukrainian escorts can hardly leave the country to go to escort destinations like Dubai or Spain. Also, Ukrainian escorts in turkey see a soaring competition of Russian escorts.
Henri Dufresne
09-16-22, 15:56
I think all planets aligned now and there is a huge opportunity to have sex with hot Ukrainian women. I wanted to take the time to write a long post about it. Please don't judge me. The situation is as it and it would be dumb not benefit from it.
Let's remind you the situation and its consequences:
Many men are on the front line. This means that many Ukrainian young women are on their own. They are not likely to meet a husband or a boyfriend soon. Also, because of the curfew, women can't go out and meet men in bars and nightclubs. They are less likely to find sexual partners. So, Ukrainian women need sex.
Also, now, regular Ukrainian escorts face a major problem. Their rich customers aren't in the country anymore. Some rich Ukrainian men have left the country and no male tourists are in Kiev. Because of this situation, Ukrainian women aren't in a position to ask customers to pay a lot of money. Let's sum up, they live in one of the poorest countries in Europe, they earn little money, prices got higher because of inflation, they live in a country at war, there is a lot of competition between hot girls in Ukraine and little demand.
Here is what you should do to avoid getting scammed.
1/ When you get the whatsapp of an Ukrainian escort online, ask her the price in Ukrainian using google translate.
2/ Never offer a price, your price will likely be too high. I did this mistake at the beginning. I suggested a price and it was too much. I paid too much. Silly me.
Secondly, because of the inflation, things are more difficult for young Ukrainian women. A financial aid would help them to buy basic needs.
Lviv and Odessa are the safest cities. Lviv is far away from the front line. The city has been targeted only once. In fact, a military base was the target. Odessa is even safer than Lviv because Russia agreed to let ships transport grains. However, Kiev is an Eldorado nowadays. Escorts, semi-pro, amateurs really need money in Kiev. I browsed the classified ads of escorts on ukrgo and found that it is a gold mine. (I posted the link to the escort page of ukrgo. Open it in edge or chrome to get the translation).
So, several men here wonder whether many escorts left Ukraine to work abroad. I don't know the situation in the USA or the Arabic Peninsula but I know the situation in west Europe very well. I haven't seen an increase in the number of Ukrainian escorts in Spain, UK, Netherlands, Germany, Czech Republic.
So now, I would like to talk about something important: high expectations of Ukrainian women. These women live in small apartments in poverty and they sometimes dream about getting paid thousands of euros for a night. So, don't be afraid to say "no" if an Ukrainian woman asks you to pay too much money.
I asked 50 regular Ukrainian women on dating sites to have sex in exchange for money. I asked the following "to have fun in exchange for a money gift". None of them had a hysterical reaction. The best-looking ones had to think before answering. That's why they need to know your telegram account or your phone number. So, if a woman says no first, you can tell her that if she changes her mind, you are here and ready, it would be simple, discreet and straight forward. Now, I think that it is even possible to ask women in public places of Lviv, Odessa, Kiev. I am trying to find a way to imply the subject before being too pushy. There are too many scammers online on websites like seeking or mamba. Women of the real-world are the best. I think that business cards can be really helpful by mentioning on it your telegram / whatsapp. Don't forget that bars and nightclubs are closed. So, coffee shops, Mc donald's are the best hunt places.
As I said before, I expected a lot before from the immigration of Ukrainian women to western European countries. Nothing happened. We haven't more opportunities in Germany, Austria, Czech Republic than before.
I think all planets aligned now and there is a huge opportunity to have sex with hot Ukrainian women. I wanted to take the time to write a long post about it. Please don't judge me. The situation is as it and it would be dumb not benefit from it.
Let's remind you the situation and its consequences:
Many men are on the front line. This means that many Ukrainian young women are on their own. They are not likely to meet a husband or a boyfriend soon. Also, because of the curfew, women can't go out and meet men in bars and nightclubs. They are less likely to find sexual partners. So, Ukrainian women need sex.
Also, now, regular Ukrainian escorts face a major problem. Their rich customers aren't in the country anymore. Some rich Ukrainian men have left the country and no male tourists are in Kiev. Because of this situation, Ukrainian women aren't in a position to ask customers to pay a lot of money. Let's sum up, they live in one of the poorest countries in Europe, they earn little money, prices got higher because of inflation, they live in a country at war, there is a lot of competition between hot girls in Ukraine and little demand...Besides ukrgo what other sites can be used? I'm thinking of going to Ukraine soon.
Besides ukrgo what other sites can be used? I'm thinking of going to Ukraine soon.https://keksik.net/
https://sexkiev.net/
https://relaxportal.biz/escorts-ukraine/escorts-kyiv/
Besides ukrgo what other sites can be used? I'm thinking of going to Ukraine soon.Thank you, seems just as easy as the sites I use.
GrugandGlory
10-05-22, 20:58
Around January where I should look?
Around January where I should look?I would start by reading this thread, I shared some links literally 2 posts below your message. There is a lot of info, if you just spend some time reading.
GrugandGlory
10-07-22, 20:34
I would start by reading this thread, I shared some links literally 2 posts below your message. There is a lot of info, if you just spend some time reading.I did look at URKgo and got through 10 numbers, in 4 cases it was always the same operator behind the account. Relaxkiev seems shady for me.
Keksik I didn't try.
I found somehow on Telegram a real channel with prostitutes who did advertisement for 2 HR 60 $.
I found somehow on Telegram a real channel with prostitutes who did advertisement for 2 HR 60 $.Yes, yes, yes. But only for basic service. Plus Taxi. Plus 30 $ for kissing. Plus 50 $ for licking and another 50 $ for blowjob without condom. And in the end there is no difference between a 200 $ Gia-Girl or a girl from Ukrgo.
GrugandGlory
10-10-22, 20:57
Yes, yes, yes. But only for basic service. Plus Taxi. Plus 30 $ for kissing. Plus 50 $ for licking and another 50 $ for blowjob without condom. And in the end there is no difference between a 200 $ Gia-Girl or a girl from Ukrgo.Does Ukrgo actually work?
Yes, yes, yes. But only for basic service. Plus Taxi. Plus 30 $ for kissing. Plus 50 $ for licking and another 50 $ for blowjob without condom. And in the end there is no difference between a 200 $ Gia-Girl or a girl from Ukrgo.What would we know eh?
Where have the Ukrainian working gone too?
My guess is that a lot of the girls have gone to Poland, Czechoslovakia & Germany? But I wanted to see what others have seen? There seems to be more on Escorts. Pl. But I would think there would be many more?
HessenStud
01-18-23, 20:04
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As I said before, I expected a lot before from the immigration of Ukrainian women to western European countries. Nothing happened. We haven't more opportunities in Germany, Austria, Czech Republic than before.Even in 2023 I can see very few discussions of Ukrainians workers on German prostitute forums. I think they are not allowed to work legally in Germany, because Ukraine is not a EU-member yet. Although there are around 1000 0000 Ukrainians in Germany, but all of them are well treated by the government, each of them get about 475 Euro per month, that's enough if she shares her room with someone else, but they cannot save too much money. For food you need around 150 Euros per month in Germany if you eat 3 times meat per week. If you are a vegetarian, 130 Euro is probably enough. 10 BIO eggs cost about 3 Euro in Germany. 500 grams noodle costs about 1 Euro. 1 kilo Basmati rice costs about 2,5 Euro. 1 Liter sunflower oil costs 2,5 Euro.
And I missed it all!
https://youtu.be/lD0LPcEPg7s
https://archive.kyivpost.com/lifestyle/remembering-river-palace-314970.html
And I missed it all!
https://youtu.be/lD0LPcEPg7s
https://archive.kyivpost.com/lifestyle/remembering-river-palace-314970.htmlIt was just one good venue of many wonderful world venues of the 90's and early 2000's.
And I missed it all!
https://youtu.be/lD0LPcEPg7s
https://archive.kyivpost.com/lifestyle/remembering-river-palace-314970.htmlThanks. These videos of freelancer clubs of yesteryear are fun to watch. I also like seeing old clips of Night Flight (Moscow), Help Disco (Rio) and Angels Disco (Bangkok). They let us remember what was available to discerning gentlemen. So few of these clips exist because most people didn't want cameras filming them in these dens of iniquity. LOL.
Never made it to Moscow or Kiev. I usually travel in the winter to escape the cold. Also, I was never into Eastern European women too much.
I want to go to Lviv but how? I try to enter Ukraine (Lviv) from warsaw by bus. Is anybody have any idea about that?
I want to go to Lviv but how? I try to enter Ukraine (Lviv) from warsaw by bus. Is anybody have any idea about that?Don't go by bus, you can be delayed at the border, so if you have connections you will miss them. Go by train if you can.
I want to go to Lviv but how? I try to enter Ukraine (Lviv) from warsaw by bus. Is anybody have any idea about that?If you have a pressing need, that's certainly understandable. But, if this is a discretionary trip, Lviv has been in Putin's missile crosshairs several times. If (when?) it happens again, maybe you'll be lucky, but maybe not.
"Five people were killed in the Lviv region after a missile struck a residential area, according to its governor. Three buildings were destroyed by fire and rescue workers were combing through rubble looking for more possible victims, he said".
https://www.euronews.com/2023/03/09/ukraine-war-massive-explosions-reported-across-country-including-kyiv
I'm sure each of those victims probably thought they were far enough from the front lines to be reasonably safe. The truth is that all of Ukraine is a war zone and Putin's missiles and drones can strike pretty much anywhere. So, IMO, anyone making a purely discretionary trip into a war zone might want to think twice.
The ukranian front line soldiers must spend a lot of their money on escorts. Should be very sexy to fuck while wearing a German helmet. The Ukrainian front line escort hookers are making millions now, especially since most ukrainian woman in the hooker age range left or were evacuated or deported from their home country.
Sellers market.
From the local hooker perspective the fight for the greatest democracy of them all, could last for a very very long time, at least till all soldiers are gone.
Let's go alliance.
The ukranian front line soldiers....Wrong thread, try the "Stupid Shit in Kyiv" thread. This is for general info.
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