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Reiner Otto
05-31-09, 09:38
Will be hard for you in Arcadia. Girls going there, who can afford the prices, usually are not interested in foreigners.
Unless they spend a lot of money :-)
STudents will be out of town, because of holidays.
Try to rent an appartment. Will be cheapest solution, because during summertime Odessa is also busy holiday destination for a lot of tourists.
There are quite a few holiday locations for the "normal people", like Koblevo (between Odessa and Nikolaev), and on Crimea, of course, where you have better chances.
However, for just one week stay only Koblevo might make some sense.
Send me PM, when you come to Odessa. I will be in Nikolaev. Or where the real party is, in www.kazantip.com :-)

AColonizer
05-31-09, 10:26
I have an interesting prostitute in Odessa. Who may concern, send enquiry by private message only.

Hoermi1986
06-01-09, 19:43
Hey

Please could you give me an internetsite were I can rent an appartment in Odessa?

I have searched with google found some, but the phonenumbers are incorect or they don't answer my mails.

At mr otto,

Interessting, what you say. It's the complete different of this what called me a friend (female) from me. She is since 4 years in germany and coms from odessa. She said to me that odessa is a great place for having partys and a lot of fun. She means that girls in ukraine are looking better then here in germany and when the ukraine gilrs know that you are a west europan, they would a date with you because they believe all westeuropans are rich. She told me that in ukraine its normal when you get 100. 200 dollars in month. The girls don't want this poor life and would like to take a west europan. On this way the friend of me came to germany, she has married one of my friends. Interessting is all people thougt that this girl leave her husband when she is in germany, but they are happy together since 4 years.

Kurenda
06-01-09, 22:55
What a girl told to you is a typical ukrainian story.

Yes she's married to your friend for 4 years because she knows EU laws better than you.

She needs to be married for 5 years in order to get her permanent stay in EU and get some rights. After that time there are big chances she will divorce your friend, take his money, car, anything else she wants. Wait and see if your friend will become statistic in which 80% of men who married women from FSU are divorced.

Bez Bezarra
06-02-09, 00:21
A ukraine girl came to germany, married one of my friends, they are happy together 4 years.



How old she is, and him also, is important to know.

Explorer69
06-02-09, 00:54
Hey

Please could you give me an internetsite were I can rent an appartment in Odessa?

I have searched with google found some, but the phonenumbers are incorect or they don't answer my mails.Use www.odessaapts.com, they have lots of apartments, are VERY reliable, I have used them many times. They also pick you up at the airport.

Hoermi1986
06-02-09, 19:41
@ Explorer69: a big thanks! thats the best site of apartmants i have seen in the internet.

@Kurunda: Okay with the 5 Years its new for me, okay i was never interested in this laws. May be it will happen so.

But today i must say i can´t believe that because she has her own job/money and my friend is not ritch. and when i see both they looking every time happy. but let me see what the future brings

@ Bez Bezarra now she is 28 and my friend is 31

She is very beautyful looks like a model, can very good cooking, she make the most of the homework becuase she think its not a men´s job. sometime you can think she is an angel.

My friend as a normal looking guy with a beer stomach. he is not ritch, but have a job.

May be a normal german guy is better then that what the ukraine has. I don't know.

Damage Control
06-08-09, 20:15
Odessa is really beat. Sure it is a lovely city if you can look past all of the deteriorating infrastructure, filthy beaches and stuck up broads. If you look really close, a lot of the head turners are not really that hot. Sure their bodies are awesome, but there is usually something going on with the teeth or face and age a lot quicker than western women. Not to mention some really nasty attitudes! Who can blame them. Like a lot of other posts on here pointing out the blatant fact that this place is way overrun with a bunch of misled middle aged white guys looking for a "wife" during the day and banging what few decent pros that might be here at night. Why do you all keep coming back here? WTF is wrong with you and why do you all think this place is so great? This is a very small city center and Akadia is not a place to actauly disappear. Outsiders have a tendency to stick out and a lot of these people do not respect westerners. You get bad unfriendly service at most of the beaches and restaurants (in which almost everyone smokes (at the same time ha ha! ) loud crappy music and really loud screeching cars every couple of minutes-someone is gonna get hit before I leave I'm sure), barely anyone speaks basic English, the quality of 95% of the apartments is crap and in their eyes we are basically making fools of ourselves. These ladies are tough and come from borderline poverty. They learned to look past a lot of stuff that I consider harsh living environments and hostile ideals. I have been here for a couple of weeks and I thought if I stayed longer things would get a little easier to cope with. Luckily I have a GF of sorts or I'd be the hell out of here. Of course it isn't full on peak summer, but I understand the attitudes get worse along with the eye candy getting more abundant. Why come over here and gawk at these stuck up cunts and support an economy of a bunch of people who don't respect you because of your creepy energy?

If you want to have fun here, learn more than just a few introductory phrases in Russian. I've seen a few guys over here going bonkers for a few average chicks and I guess that'll do it for them, but I really can't wait to GTFOOH! I did give Dina a call and am gonna see what her offerings are. Club X has some nice talent, but it just seems like too much trouble in the end, I ended up going out with one of the dancers after a massage. We had some nice conversation and food, but decided I had had enough. I have'nt gone to the port, but geeze, it sounds pretty ghetto! Have you heard of Amsterdam or spent time in a quality FKK of Thai Bath? Or did you happen to fly over them on accident?

But, seriously, unless you are really bored and have travelled a lot of other places or are just a complete goober, I wouldn't waist your time here. It's fished out on the dating/marriage site thing (all of UA for that matter). These ladies don't want out of here! The ones that want to meet a western guy are usually bored or looking for "just" a way out and on to a billionaire or to get their "real" boyfriend a greencard. They might love you, but the other shoe is always waiting to drop. When you meet them you'll understand why. Don't use Anastasianet! In fact, most of the dating agencies have fake profiles and all of the 9's and 10's will never respond to the agencies. Don't support this place with your mongering crap! It sucks for that and they just sit back and laugh at us and look at us like the pigs we are. There are a lot better places to go monger. If you enjoy checking out chicks that are more insecure than chicks in LA and then maybe this is the place for you. BTY are you to broke to fly to LA or NYC and go ahead and spend about as much money in total as here on a long weekend with the flight and hit some of the newer clubs there? Where do you think all the hot UA broads move in America? NYC and LA!

If you can hook up with some Russian speaking wingmen then maybe it would be better. But good luck with all of that. Shit will still be weird as hell from reading some of the other posts on here. If you keep coming back here, maybe you should read up on self flagellation.

There are some really beautiful buildings here and at night the lighting is awesome and romantic. The atmosphere is festive, the beaches aren't tooo bad if you don't pick up a handful of sand or put your head under the water, the people like to have fun, there are some extremely talented musicians in the parks and some of the restaurants and obviously in the operas and ballets, there a "few" unbelievably beautiful women and if you meet the right people, some of them can be the most hospitable and educated or heart felt folks. Most Odessan's that have taken the time to know me and vice versa take pride in their city, their heritage, their culture and have a curiosity about their lives and seem extremely detail orientated. If we come here for long periods of time and act like dweebs, dress poorly and we have the attitude that we think we are gonna walk away with the cream of the crop, then we just walk away looking like fools. If you come over here just to monger, they don't advertise it and it is not a very welcomed sport.

Bring your best "up to date" clothes, learn a good amount of Russian (of which I have been practicing but is very difficult), come with moderate expectations and an interest in Odessa beyond mongering and wife chasing! In fact, practice this wherever you go. I'm tired of picking up your slack!

Be safe-have fun!

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Bez Bezarra
06-09-09, 17:58
Odessa is really beat. There are a lot better places to go monger.



So where are a lot better places?

Wanderer1000
06-10-09, 03:23
I just saw your second post on the Rio thread, and I decided to see who the new guy is.

I spent a week in Odessa in the summer of 2005, and your post is so true on all accounts. Right up until I went, there weren't posts like yours on this thread. I remember getting the first foreshadowing of what the town would be like for a new guy with very limited Russian skills while riding from the airport with an American guy and his Russian girlfriend. I won't elaborate because you captured my experience real well. I hung around with a Belgian guy for a few days and we hit the clubs by the sea at night - he had the same reaction as you and me.

But you got it wrong on Ingrid - see you over there.

Jaggerbowski
06-11-09, 09:52
Mr. Damage Control,

I was in Odessa for 6 nights last July.

As a result, I am returning for another engagement later this month.

Thank you kindly for presenting a picture that will leave me more for the taking.
Sincerely,

Dr. J.

P.S. You're full-of-shit!

Big Bopperino
06-18-09, 08:26
I've been to Odessa twice and I have to admit, it is definitely not a mongering destination. Oh, you will find some pros there but they are not worth the journey. And the eye candy walking down the street or on the beach are just not going to jump onto your lap - you have to work it just like anywhere else. So if you don't speak good Russian, forget it. It wasn't until I started hanging out with this Kazakstani guy that was I able to hook up with a couple of non-pros, unfortunately toward the end of my trip. In hindsight, should have made friends with a Russian-speaking wingman much earlier.

So after spending time in Brazil and Thailand, Odessa has lost it's luster. Maybe it was fantastic 5-10 years ago, but no longer - those dyevs have caught up to the western world's bitchy attitude. The city is OK but it's certainly not Prague. And the beaches are nothing special. The water is dirty - got diarrhea twice when I accidentally swallowed while swimming. Oh, and did I mention that the lodging accommodations suck!

BTW, I happen to live in a very nice beach town with plenty of super hot stuck-up bitches who speak my language. Why then would I fly thousands of miles just to find more who don't?

I may go back to visit some old friends. But for mongering and non-pros, there are much better alternatives elsewhere.

SailorSailor
06-18-09, 12:34
Hi folks,

Reports on odessa seems out of date.

Any recent update for Odessa scene for this summer?

Bez Bezarra
06-19-09, 10:56
I've been to Odessa twice and it is definitely not a mongering destination.

So after Brazil and Thailand, Odessa has lost it's luster.

Maybe it was fantastic 5-10 years ago, but for mongering and non-pros, there are much better alternatives elsewhere.



Where are your 'much better alternatives'? Brazil/Thailand? Any more specifics as far as where in those countries are better than FSU?

I wouldn't say Odessa was "fantastic" 5-10 years ago, but through persistance I was able to find two absolute perfect 10's there in 2003. And the farther back you go, to 1999 and back through the nineties to 1991 after USSR, certainly the better it was for mongering, but that's true for EVERYWHERE in FSU. Though in comparative terms, the farther back you go, the worse the accommodations were, so if you think the apartments are bad now.....

I thought my flat was just fine on Deribovskaya, a bit expensive, but my Kiev agent got his cut for setting it up for me with the office there, that group of apartments across the street from the hotel right above the Turkish restaurant a block from MacDonalds.

It wasn't really much different then than any other FSU city compared to today, as far as ease in finding GFE university students just starting out in the p4p or sponsoring scene. EVERY year, there's less, and EVERY year, the quality goes down. From 2000 to 2005, if you were very persistant, you would eventually find a few 9's and 10's. Since then, now you have to be persistant, to find 8's and 9's. Grab those GFE's while you can now, cause even when you DO find it, when you go back for more, chances are they're gonna find some dumb reason to ruin it, no matter how good you are to them.

The moral of that story is, simply don't even bother wasting your time being too good to them, cause in the end, they'll just turn on ya.

SailorSailor
06-19-09, 14:11
Where are your 'much better alternatives'? Brazil/Thailand? Any more specifics as far as where in those countries are better than FSU?

I wouldn't say Odessa was "fantastic" 5-10 years ago, but through persistance I was able to find two absolute perfect 10's there in 2003. And the farther back you go, to 1999 and back through the nineties to 1991 after USSR, certainly the better it was for mongering, but that's true for EVERYWHERE in FSU. Though in comparative terms, the farther back you go, the worse the accommodations were, so if you think the apartments are bad now.....

I thought my flat was just fine on Deribovskaya, a bit expensive, but my Kiev agent got his cut for setting it up for me with the office there, that group of apartments across the street from the hotel right above the Turkish restaurant a block from MacDonalds.

It wasn't really much different then than any other FSU city compared to today, as far as ease in finding GFE university students just starting out in the p4p or sponsoring scene. EVERY year, there's less, and EVERY year, the quality goes down. From 2000 to 2005, if you were very persistant, you would eventually find a few 9's and 10's. Since then, now you have to be persistant, to find 8's and 9's. Grab those GFE's while you can now, cause even when you DO find it, when you go back for more, chances are they're gonna find some dumb reason to ruin it, no matter how good you are to them.

The moral of that story is, simply don't even bother wasting your time being too good to them, cause in the end, they'll just turn on ya.Nice comment

Sadly said to be 100 % true.

Big Bopperino
06-23-09, 10:04
Where are your 'much better alternatives'?

Brazil/Thailand? Any more specifics as far as where in those countries are better than FSU?Bez, based on your member name and your posts, you must be from a former FSU country or have been a resident for many years, so I'll assume you speak fairly good Russian. As I had said, if you speak good Russian, you will do fairly well in a city like Odessa. But if not, you will most likely be disappointed. Per my observation, the obvious pros who catered to Westerners tended to be old or unattractive, and all the hotties were already latched on to Russian guys. So for the newbies or amateur mongers, Odessa is not a good option unless you enjoy blue balls.

Now Brazil and Thailand are much better. Pros are much much much more accessible. Rio has 'Help', Escort Services, the beach, and the Termas. And remember, you don't f' Brazilian girls - they f' you. Also, decent accommodations and great food. And the variety is fantastic, from blond, blue-eyed to hot Mulattas and everything in between. Muito quente!!! I love the Brazilieras!!!

Thailand is good too. While I've never been a big fan of Asian women, I will say that I had some amazing experiences there. You can't walk more than 50 feet in Patong or Pattaya without a girl shaking it in your face - Wow, I was overwhelmed! And the prices are relatively cheap!!! Sure, Ukrainian women are more beautiful in a classic sense, but I'll take an amazing GFE experience from a 7 or 8 Thai over a mechanical session with an 8 or 9 Ukranka. And honestly, what are the chances of scoring a 10 in any country - almost nil.

BTW, my first FSU experience occurred in Prague back in 2001. It was fantastic!!! Hot girls everywhere giving me the eye. Great girls working the apartments and clubs. I went again in 2003 and it was not fantastic but still good. Went again in 2006 - quality way down, prices way up - Amsterdam was better! Did not make it to Ukraine until 2006 and again in 2007, and it was obviously not a Monger destination like Prague. Not to say I didn't have fun and achieve some success, but it took a lot of "persistance" and most haven't the time or will to persist.

So again, if you are an average Joe and willing to travel thousands of miles to Monger, go to Brazil or Thailand (the best places I've been so far). You will have a much better hottie/performance combo experience. Not only are the girls going to be entertaining, but Rio, Bahia, and Phuket are just nice vacation destinations - beautiful beaches and good hotels. Pattaya is ok. Sao Paulo may not be a beautiful city, but there are many many garotas available for your pleasure.

And if you really have the urge to bang a 9 or 10 and cost is no object, just look in your own back yard. Hell, even London has 9's and 10's (although they tend to speak little or no english) ;)

-BB

Kurenda
06-24-09, 11:04
Bez is from Florida (right Bez)?

If we speak about Ukraine "'much better alternatives" for Odessa is Kiev of course. This goes for any other place in Ukraine.

Odessa is not for everyone especially if you're newbie to Ukraine.

If any Westerner coming to Odessa is expecting to be treated like God wake up.
Those time are long gone.

First FSU experience Prague? FSU=Former Sovet Union

Prague being capital of former Czechoslovakia which was never part of Soviet Union, just a socialist ally. Prague goes in EE category and not into FSU.

Cruiser D
06-25-09, 03:37
Yeah K, Czechoslovakia was never part of the Soviet Union. Just like East Germany or Poland wasn't either. Ever hear of Prague Spring? When the Soviets brutually reminded the Czech's who was in charge.

No, it wasn't a part of the USSR but it was a part of the Eastern Bloc/Warsaw Pact which was nothing more then puppet States controlled by the Soviets.

Big Bopperino
06-25-09, 08:03
First FSU experience Prague? FSU=Former Sovet Union

Prague being capital of former Czechoslovakia which was never part of Soviet Union, just a socialist ally. Prague goes in EE category and not into FSU.

Yes, I agree, Prague was not in the country formerly known as the USSR. But I personally consider any city/country that was behind the former "Iron Curtain" to be FSU since they were effectively under the Soviet umbrella.

BTW, wasn't the world's largest statue of Stalin located in Prague? And have you ever seen the "modern" apartment buildings outside the city center? They scream Soviet.

Nevertheless, from hereon I'll use FSU and EE accordingly to prevent any confusion.

Abufantasio
07-03-09, 14:20
Reading all these negative posts on Odessa, I am a bit worried, especially since I am going there tomorrow for 4 days of mongering and tourism.
I like Ukrainian culture and I have very good memories of my stay in Kiev 2 years ago, where almost everyone was saying Odessa is much better...
I am not sure it's the case, when I read the forum. I guess at least it's much more difficult to catch a nice girl.
Do you have any personal advice for escort agency or rather club (similar to River Palace or so) in Odessa ?
By the way, I am living now for 4 years in Prague and know the place extensively, so I would be happy to return the favour to someone if he visits Czech Republic.

F.


Bez is from Florida (right Bez)?

If we speak about Ukraine "'much better alternatives" for Odessa is Kiev of course. This goes for any other place in Ukraine.

Odessa is not for everyone especially if you're newbie to Ukraine.

If any Westerner coming to Odessa is expecting to be treated like God wake up.
Those time are long gone.

First FSU experience Prague? FSU=Former Sovet Union

Prague being capital of former Czechoslovakia which was never part of Soviet Union, just a socialist ally. Prague goes in EE category and not into FSU.

Cruiser D
07-03-09, 16:13
Feel free to post your own negative report when you get back. Or at least say, wow - you guys were right. :)

Kurenda
07-03-09, 18:56
People in Kiev can say Odessa is better only because it has sea side he he. For all other reasons (especially mongering) it can not compare to Kiev.

It doesn't mean Odessa will be complete disaster. If there's enough time, knowledge of language and some local friend it can turn out nice.

But game is different than in Kiev for sure.

About p4p try to check out those "weekend pros" from Bulgaria and Romania coming to Odessa usually on Friday. They are mostly in the passenger port.

With tourist season now their number should increase.

Bez Bezarra
07-05-09, 03:29
Reading on Odessa, I am a bit worried.



Since Coozer was so helpful and Kendra suggests your 4 days won't be enough time, someone else ought to give you something you can actually use.

Your 4 days will be enough to try all the numbers in the newspaper, start at 1 in the afternoon, but you may find they will only begin at between 6 and 7 o'clock, but you never know. If the first day you call early and they don't have anything, when you do get through, ask to get the dispatchers to find a girl that will make arrangements to see you earlier either the next day or the day after. In fact, try that every day. That's how I met a Bulgarina, who had a bit of an attitude, but was hot enough that by giving her a thorough work out, Bez was able to transform her indifference into convulsions of depravity.

There may be as many as 5 numbers in the newspaper, or its possible only one or 2 that can send you someone, and the odds are always about 20 to 25 percent in your favor that you could get a 7.5 or even an 8 or 8.5 or if you just get lucky, they'll have a 9. For two hours, the price will well be worth it.

At the same time, try to find a Mercedes taxi driver, (or two, or three), they will also likely hook you up, price will go up to cover his cut, but again, you could get lucky and get something certainly hot enough to keep you smiling and certainly you'll be having more success than ANY of the so-called advisors around here, (OH YEAH you know who you are!!).

Sure go to clubs too, hey even hang out in the park, there's no shortage of 9's, in the first half hour you won't even be able to remember how many, but this may only serve to overwhelm your thirst to the point that you seriously consider growing fangs and turning into a vampire.

Ok so yes I'm into necks, what can I say they have hot necks, the only thing better than sucking their necks is sucking their pussies.

If you have success in nightclubs in Kiev, (NOT RP!), then your chances are also good in ODS. Hell, go check out the port too. Make a local friend and get him to call the numbers in the newspaper and ask a few cabbies for you, it could only help.

Kendra is right, that if you had 10 days instead of 4, you might do a lot better, but its all in the timing, that is you can't predict if you'll have the best luck in the beginning or the end, but with 10 days, getting one 9 should be possible, if not 2. With only 4 days, once you find one, if you don't get another one, you'll wish you had stayed longer.

Van Velen
07-07-09, 17:33
Hello all,

Later this month I will travel with a (female) Moldovan friend to the Ukraine. Our goal is to make some videos for a future website. The style will be erotic rather than pornographic and will feature strictly girl-girl action. The necessary equipment, interpreter, studio, and of course capital are already in place. All that is needed now are the girls themselves. We are not sure yet about the best way to find them (internet, bars, beaches, etc), or in which city we will settle.

If there are people here who feel they would like to contribute, share their experience there, or in some other way provide some help that would be highly appreciated. Post here or contact me through Private Messages, I respond to them all.

PS I apologize for posting this in more than one thread, but I feel this is necessary due to some uncertainties in our plans as of yet.

Cruiser D
07-07-09, 21:53
Bez, I don't understand what you mean? Could you repost that message again with all the info about calling ads in the paper and using taxi drivers.

Then can you post it again when I ask in 6 months?


Then in a year? Then in two years?

:P

Latime
07-10-09, 20:49
Yeah K, Czechoslovakia was never part of the Soviet Union. Just like East Germany or Poland wasn't either. Ever hear of Prague Spring? When the Soviets brutually reminded the Czech's who was in charge.

No, it wasn't a part of the USSR but it was a part of the Eastern Bloc/Warsaw Pact which was nothing more then puppet States controlled by the Soviets.What it has to do with Odessa, and ISG. What happened in Prague Spring? So what.

Cruiser D
07-11-09, 09:28
If you don't like it, don't read it.

Bez Bezarra
07-12-09, 03:16
Your contribution in this thread is to flame Abufantasio.

Then to flame me.

Then to flame Latime.

I won't claim that any of our posts are significant contributions, but yours are an obvious sign that you really need something else to do with your life, other than find fault in everyone but yourself.

Why don't you try reading your own posts, and see what an absence of value that you bring to ISG. Oh yeah, that's right, you shared that you always go check out new salons that have hot girls, and that you rarely partake.

Ever since I remarked how that sounds like some castrated monger's lament, you've been in a foul mood, though I assert that your admission of flaccidness tells us all we need to know.

Be honest with yourself and you'll realize how very long its been since you made even the smallest effort to blaze a mongering trail somewhere new on a road less traveled.

At least what's his name supposedly spent a month not photographing even one of his millions of hot girls in fucking Uzjerkistank.

Here's another reason you should have a problem with my post about how I got hooked up in Odessa:

Cruiser D
07-12-09, 04:14
Dude, what's up with that crappy bed and blanket?

Gergiev
07-12-09, 07:06
Dude, what's up with that crappy bed and blanket?

The wallpaper will have to go as well...

Latime
07-12-09, 18:30
If you don't like it, don't read it.Before the toilet sit was invented and Mid Central Soviet Germany took over Polish capital Bucharest and all those puppets controlled by the States and as a result Eastern Pact Blocked Western Warsaw in Northern Slovakia and all Soviets putas in big numbers with all their czech and eastern polish-germans allies brutally occupied South Beach so "Cruiser" can become "Poc i ham" in his native Porkestan.

Cruiser D
07-12-09, 19:43
The couch isn't that bad. But the throw pillow has to go.

Gergiev
07-13-09, 02:55
You two are nothing but a bunch of retarded sewage orifice diseased crab bugger wad cranks excoriated with milky gelatinous elephant sperm bombs in excrutiating blue anal bile wart box cramps with spit buckets of burnt red hot toenail toilet bloody abortion afterbirths and black booger cluster polyps in a stinking greasy chigger scabbed gash under sandwiches of dripping camel shit piddler custard with filthy pus diarrhea hairballs of wet snot scuzbag faggot bungy jism plus more scum sucking turdy vomit twat slime squeezed from brown shrimp boat juicy armpit garbage maggots and burning [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) pubes of crusting yellow piles of hemorrhoid smegma rotten foaming hocker fungus

Bez, for the sake of completion I'm a Methodist as well...


But I really have to compliment you on producing such a magnificent, stream-of-conscious diatribe.

Indeed it's one of the great pleasures of my life so far to be on the receiving end of such an unrelenting onslaught!



Talking to you's guys is like watching the Jack Ass II movie without wearing a cup and no barf bag.


Actually your contribution above puts me more in mind of that superb scene in Blazing Saddles where Hedley Lamarr issues a call for rustlers, hustlers, vipers, snipers, muggers, buggerers etc etc

My kind of company alright, fellows with the "right sort of kidney".

Count me in !!!



Now you needs to quit breakin balls around here. Or I'll have to send Acolonizer and Vince Voyeur Romano Peccorino Foreskin Cheese over to your house and regale you with their disturbing used kotex and cum gurgling histories.



Now steady on, Bez.

Don't you realise we were just winding you up?

Seriously, sending Acolonizer and Vince Voyeur/Romano V around is taking this thing way too far.

Surely the punishment should fit the crime ??

Can't we talk this out like reasonable, god-fearing men ???


Gergiev.


Ps I have to agree with CD, the pillow simply has to go...

Bez Bezarra
07-13-09, 04:55
Before the toilet was invented
Central Germany took over Polish Bucharest
and puppets controlled East Warsaw in North Slovakia
and putas with czechs brutally occupied Cruiser in Porkestan.



This is some good shit!

Gobbledy-gook graves, I think its time for YOU to go!!

And please don't hurry back.

Kitayanka Huysoska:

Gergiev
07-18-09, 04:19
Eastern Pact Blocked Western Warsaw in Northern Slovakia

Gobbledy-gook graves, I think its time for YOU to go!!



OK, I'm there right now...

DirkDingy
07-18-09, 07:56
Odessa is really beat. Sure it is a lovely city if you can look past all of the deteriorating infrastructure, filthy beaches and stuck up broads. If you look really close, a lot of the head turners are not really that hot. Sure their bodies are awesome, but there is usually something going . If you keep coming back here, maybe you should read up on self flagellation.


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Globalization and the accompanying rise of living standards in the 2nd world are making the mongerers' Golden Years a thing of the past. I do not think these times will ever be repeated.

However, I hear that the econonomy in the FSU--hell, damn near the entire world for that matter--is bad and getting progressively worse. If this is the case, and if you are not impacted by the downturn, then one may be able to capitalize on this. Are any of you guys noticing this?

An economic bust should go hand-in-hand with a deflation of dyev's egos and wish lists.

For instance, an agency in Tiraspol that provides girls to various strip clubs in Western Europe is no longer taking applicants this summer because there are no vacancies.

I know some girls from Validovostak who work in the non-sex industry in Dubai and some of them are being sent home for lack of work.

Himself
07-18-09, 16:07
Privet,

Working the past 8 months on 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off at a project in Odessa, I would like to comment on the scene....

Firstly, the 'Golden years' as mentioned below are over. All of us who visited FSU in the mid 90-ties have the nice memories, where a foreigner was king because of our money and in some cases we were considered by the girls as a potential lifetime sponsor (marriage) and possible escape from the poverty, and therefore we got a special status and treatment.

Secondly, these matters changes from say 2002. In general life standards became better, in particular Odessa and Kiev developed. Opportunity and prospects for the people improved, the education level came up to more international standards, everybody wanted to have a share in this, prices increased to crazy levels (in particular real estate), fancy restaurants became in, posh and expensive. Local (young) business men became very rich, a lot of them around I think (see how many Porsche Cayenne and other high end there are in Odessa), girls learned from their girl friends who married foreigners, that this was not always smooth, many, many tourist from West came to snap a (semi-pro) girl for a few weeks, and it became a negative thing to go out with a foreigner as girls friends would consider her as a pro. It became harder to find non-pros for a romance during a short vacation (I believe it is impossible to find a 100% non-pro with a 8-10 look if you are only on a tourist – with 100% I mean: no cash, no extravagant presents and no promise for marriage etc.). However, there was still a huge crow of good looking students supporting their students through making them available for us mongers, but the price level increased and sometime became completely unrealistic, making your search more difficult but still possible to pick cherries. To get the top looking girls you have to an insider (knowing the culture, the girls thinking and needs and return on a regular basis, so the girls can see come prospects)

Thirdly – and this is the situation since early 2009 where the crises started: During this winter and spring I discovered a new group of cherries. Due to the crises many lost their jobs (I think this is bad and I really do hope this will improve soon again) first in the row to go are part time workers like students. This becomes a problem for the students if they do not earn money when they have to pass their exams, as never mind how good you actual are – you will have to pay your teacher to get good marks. Through internet I met a number a student this spring – all 8+ - who did one night stands for 200 USD – one even offered it for 100 USD but I paid 100 Euro. I believe that these girls would not just go with a tourist, but only with somebody they know who is more or less staying permanently so a repeat is possible. A note is that the services varies a lot as these girls a not pro, and sometimes a bit shy – despite their sexy looks with ultra-short mini skirts and tight t-shirt and high-heels.

About fees for the services, which has been discussed in length here as well:

For sure 1000 USD for a night is too much. I guess with the students on a one-night stand, you will be able to negotiate down to as little as 150 USD if you are turf, have the time and take the risk that some cherries will decline. If the girl makes you happy I think 200-300 USD is reasonable. I am in the mid-40-ties and where in the world can I find a non-pro 20-24 year stunning looking blond girl for a night for 2-300 USD giving (or at least trying her best) to give me a super girl friend sex tour in bed? I think it is a ridiculous discussion if 200 or 300 USD is the correct amount.... The salary levels in Ukraine are for reference a department manager in the office I supervise get 1000-1300 USD/month, my secretary fully fluent in English 600 USD, the girl at the reception 500 USD and my driver – who is on standby 24 hours – 450 USD.

Conclusion: Odessa is wonderful place to visit, good restaurants, and cafes. The centre is a bit like Spain. Italy or Southern France in the summer with a lot of nice place to sit and have beer or coffee outside and look at people passing by – but in Odessa you will see a lot of beauties scrolling by. You can try to catch some of them, maybe you have luck, if not there are sufficient pros around... Odessa is definitely a 'must-visit' for any international monger hobbiest ;-)

Have a good time!




Globalization and the accompanying rise of living standards in the 2nd world are making the mongerers' Golden Years a thing of the past. I do not think these times will ever be repeated.

However, I hear that the econonomy in the FSU--hell, damn near the entire world for that matter--is bad and getting progressively worse. If this is the case, and if you are inot mpacted by the downturn, then one may be able to capitalize on this. Are any of you guys noticing this?

An economic bust should go hand-in-hand with a deflation of dyev's egos and wish lists.

For instance, an agency in Tiraspol that provides girls to various strip clubs in Western Europe is no longer taking applicants this summer because there are no vacancies.

I know some girls from Validovostak who work in the non-sex industry in Dubai and some of them are being sent home for lack of work.

Latime
07-18-09, 23:39
"we got a special status and treatment.

these matters changes from say 2002."

I would say 2003-2004

"In general life standards became better"

They just sort of get back to normal if you still call it's normal

"in particular Odessa and Kiev developed."
means more McDonald's build while part of old city just vanished in ruins

"Opportunity and prospects for the people improved"
for some who do not pay taxes :))
, "the education level came up to more international standards",
what standards? Odessa always had number of good schools and medical clinics with students from all over around the world

"It became harder to find non-pros for a romance during a short vacation (I believe it is impossible to find a 100% non-pro with a 8-10 look if you are only on a tourist – with 100% I mean: no cash, no extravagant presents and no promise for marriage etc.)."
... odessa chiks were always hard to get.

"To get the top looking girls you have to an insider"
what a joke :))

"I guess with the students on a one-night stand, you will be able to negotiate down to as little as 150 USD if you are turf, have the time and take the risk that some cherries will decline. If the girl makes you happy I think 200-300 USD is reasonable."
Is it kind of interest involved in that recommendation :))

.... The salary levels in Ukraine are for reference a department manager in the office I supervise get 1000-1300 USD/month, my secretary fully fluent in English 600 USD, the girl at the reception 500 USD and my driver – who is on standby 24 hours – 450 USD.


"For sure 1000 USD for a night is too much."

You gone out of your mind,

$ 1000.00 for what? to spend night with a slavik chick, are you also buying a diamond ring to your wife just to get laid I am sorry but there's no reality check for your story you can pay 100 , 150 or 400 buck it's your problem or don't pay at all the whole thing that in that part of the world "Common sense is gone" they just still don't have idea what is money worth after "Prague Spring" so much of comic writhers on this forum

about salaries in Ukraine

yes there is some businesses, banks and etc who paid certain wages just like you said in your company but it's only small percentage of jobs available average salary in Ukraine is 4176 griven ( see http://work.com.ua/stat/ ) (exchange 8.1 for $1 US) which makes $515. US

that mean there is some jobs from 600 griven and majority getting around
2000-3000 griven that means average is about $ 300.00
that's one of misleads you given to this forum

but who cares the minimum federal wages in US 6.55 an hour (consider they still need to have a car, insurance and buy gas just to get to work) that doesn't make states are the best places for mongering

Odessa never been easy place to get laid beside those times you mention, and summer seasons if you lucky to get somebody out of town on vacation that could be your easy target.

about students for money .. so what try NYC, Boston, Syracuse NY, Montreal or any cities with a big student population ... same.. could be cheaper and very good quality.

while in Canada - check singles young moms on welfare if you know where to
to spot them so what ...

"Odessa is definitely a 'must-visit' for any international monger hobbiest ;-)"
that is definitely b.s. that time is gone ...

give us a break.

Odessa could be a cute city to visit but considering a flight time, transfers and price to get there... prices for pros it's just unreasonably expensive.

Not to mention that prostitution is illegal in Ukraine which doesn't makes the whole action more safe and enjoyable.

"sit and have beer or coffee outside and look at people passing by"

zzopa

Captain Fire
07-20-09, 14:53
I'm going to Nikolayev July 29 for about 3 months. Anyone know any topless or nude beaches relatively close by? E.G. Koblevo or vicinity? Anybody around Nik during this time, drop me a line and we'll have a beer

Amante75
07-23-09, 09:54
Hi guys,

The next week I will came in Odessa for few days of Work, is my first time in this city, I want ask you if there are a Sexy Massage saloon or the apartment with girl for take a sex?

If there are this place which is the best and the Price?

Many Thank's for the information!

Enjoy!


Privet,

Working the past 8 months on 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off at a project in Odessa, I would like to comment on the scene.

Amante75
07-23-09, 18:01
Hi Guys!

The next week I will came in Odessa for my first time, I want ask you expert of this city is there are, Sexy Massage Saloon? Or Sauna? Or Appartments with a girls for take a sex?

Many Thak's for all'Information!

Bye!

DoctorOral
07-24-09, 09:09
You might try a little research in this forum - its all said!

Captain Fire
07-25-09, 16:38
Howdy gents
I'll be in Nikloayev July 30 for month of August at least. Looking forward to seeing old friends. Take care

SirMarjAlot
08-16-09, 14:56
Hi,

I will be in Odessa in 2 weeks time. Iv been meaning to visit this country for a few years now and so now will finally make it after visiting Budapest and Bucharest.

Iv read alot of whats on offer in Odessa and it seems alot mongers are left dissapointed. I intend to enjoy the city and if I get some girls all well and good.

But has Odessa got a good escort scene in case all else fails, I mean i cannot pull in the bars or clubs, the SW are too rough!

Im staying in an apartment, can anyone recommend any escort services in Odessa?

Hakan Demir
08-17-09, 09:19
I would recommend you vodkaescort.com, especially if you have enough money, try Katya.

Too expensive, but a good option for Odessa.


Hi,

I will be in Odessa in 2 weeks time. Iv been meaning to visit this country for a few years now and so now will finally make it after visiting Budapest and Bucharest.

Iv read alot of whats on offer in Odessa and it seems alot mongers are left dissapointed. I intend to enjoy the city and if I get some girls all well and good.

But has Odessa got a good escort scene in case all else fails, I mean i cannot pull in the bars or clubs, the SW are too rough!

Im staying in an apartment, can anyone recommend any escort services in Odessa?

AColonizer
08-17-09, 18:23
Why not this one doing everything for honest price?

http://flirt.com.ua/sassa19/

80967453758 звоните за час до встречи

приветик 300 долларов ночь +такси
анал орал класика куни


Hi,

I will be in Odessa in 2 weeks time. Iv been meaning to visit this country for a few years now and so now will finally make it after visiting Budapest and Bucharest.

Iv read alot of whats on offer in Odessa and it seems alot mongers are left dissapointed. I intend to enjoy the city and if I get some girls all well and good.

But has Odessa got a good escort scene in case all else fails, I mean i cannot pull in the bars or clubs, the SW are too rough!

Im staying in an apartment, can anyone recommend any escort services in Odessa?

SirMarjAlot
08-17-09, 20:05
I would recommend you vodkaescort.com, especially if you have enough money, try Katya.

Too expensive, but a good option for Odessa.Yesm I came across that one, That is the only one i can find.

I'm now wondering why it has not got a vibrant escort scene like other eastern europe cities? Plus it seems lots of mongers are not finding what they want.

Cruiser D
08-18-09, 04:05
Sir, RTFF.

Pizdyets
08-18-09, 22:00
Why not this one doing everything for honest price?

http://flirt.com.ua/sassa19/

80967453758 звоните за час до встречи

приветик 300 долларов ночь +такси
анал орал класика куни

Dude, she's fucking hideous. She'd have to pay me $300 and taxi.

SirMarjAlot
08-19-09, 11:26
Sir, RTFF.Sorry mate aint got the time to go through aload of posts exactly like this one i have posted in response to your 'no info' post.

FYFI I have RTFF i have read all the forums and like i fucking said cant find any odessa escorts!!! not hard to understand, so unless you got some info positive or negative on the subject 'odessa escorts' dont bother replying.

AColonizer
08-19-09, 18:32
If you look at pictures in forum section, it is probably you don't see anybody better: for your tastes, it is a bargain.

That's ridicolous to read here, before men say "100$ is too much for an hour", then men say "100$ is good for an hour", etc. Nobody has an accurate idea about prices and services.

And that's infinitely more ridicolous to read men paying an expensive escort from an Internet site where all information are false and all pictures are photoshopped and with no satisfaction guarantee: does this mean "more I pay, more I am happy"?

And for what? Each man has a different idea of sex, from a handjob payed more than 100 euros (read Moscow thread) to a full night mouthpussyass treatment payed 150 euros by IT Travel.

Dude, post a good alternative with a good price, this is your job here.


Dude, she's fucking hideous. She'd have to pay me $300 and taxi.

Pizdyets
08-19-09, 20:44
Dude, post a good alternative with a good price, this is your job here.

Sorry, man, not my job. When I'm in Odessa, it's on vacation. And when I'm on vacation, it's all about freebies...

Still, how can Odessa be more expensive than Kiev or Moscow for p4p? $300 for a night? It's fucking ridiculous.

AColonizer
08-20-09, 17:20
You are wrong.

Price is negotiable and above of all, you forgot about which services, and this is a surprise that I don't write. You should read the announcement amongst the lines.

And you forgot we are talking about common "mongers", this means they are very weak in negotiate. Those services for that price (negotiable) is a good bargain for tourists. Do you mean it is better the pricelist of GIA or Vodka or further official escort agencies?

I never suggest any beginners to go to Moscow! I have experienced central Moscow. I have never met any people more liar than prostitutes in central Moscow. And, incredible to say, very low quality.

Read the Moscow thread, there are tourists ready to pay 10000 rubles for a fuck in Aurora 911, 10000 rubles are more than 300 dollars for what? for a pussy fucking hour? And Aurora 911 is the maximum quality now in Moscow.




Sorry, man, not my job. When I'm in Odessa, it's on vacation. And when I'm on vacation, it's all about freebies...

Still, how can Odessa be more expensive than Kiev or Moscow for p4p? $300 for a night? It's fucking ridiculous.

Explorer69
08-21-09, 08:52
I will tell about my last visit to Odessa, I was there for all together 8 nights 1 week ago and each night was great! I always had a great time in Odessa, I have various contacts and now in many ways I know my way around there. However, Odessa is a difficult city to come to, and those who believe there are bars with girls to pick up for 1-2 hours will be seriously disappointed. There is nothing like River Palace. The scene in Odessa is better for my style: I like to meet a girl and if we get along I meet her again, maybe for several days, I am more into sponsoring. And often one can move from one girl to the next.

I don't care to take photos, in fact I am against publishing photos of girls who don't advertise themselves on internet with real photos. It is surprising how many. Even poor girls and boys. In FSU countries have access to internet, even with their own computer.

This time I had done a lot of work on Mamba and in the end I had too many options, I had to leave out many of them. I made one clear mistake: I made the appointment to fly in a girl from from Dnepropetrovsk (I got her an electronic ticket). My reasoning behind this was that when we stayed in the same apartment, there had to be a lot of fucking from the start, I did not need to date several girls before getting laid. It turned out this was totally unnecessary, so her ticket was a waste. This girl was interested in sponsoring, I made for her an electronic ticket for USD 250 and promised to give her 500 for staying with me 4 days and nights.

I arrived in the afternoon, got installed in my apartment, did some shopping etc. I picked her up at the airport around 10 pm. She was hot (19 years old), something like an 8-9, small girl with curves and amazing tits for being so small. She had Tartar background and with some Asiatic features in her face. I offered to go to a restaurant, but she just wanted to be in the apartment. In 2 hours she drank one bottle of Martini Bianco and then we went to bed around 1 – 1.30 am. After some oral she turned into a true fucking machine! Some time between 4 and 5 am I suggested maybe we should sleep (I had only slept 2 hours the night before), but she said "NO"! She got on top of me again and fucked as if her life depended on it! Then she wanted more doggy, I felt she tried to turn me into something between a sledgehammer and a catapult! Several times I begged for mercy! At around 6 am I simply said that now we sleep, but I felt she was not totally happy (she had had lots of orgasms! ). We had then had sex for 4-5 hours and in addition to orals and some showers had been really fucking more or less continuously at least for 3 hours! But she claimed she had not had sex for 1 year! ? One can believe it or not?

The next day we were on the beach and at night (we started early in the evening! ) the same fucking machine was active again. My God!

The following day she would not go to beach, I went by mayself, because she wanted to shop (what a surprise! ). In the evening she announced that she was I'll, her period had arrived! She had pains, I had to get her some pain killers and she did not eat. We never went to restaurants at all, so she had low maintainance!

I had earlier told her I had friends to see in Odessa and we could see them together. Now she announced that she wanted to stay in bed, but I could go! So in the early evening I got a longlasting blow job and then I went to meet a girl from internet. This girl was an elegant blonde. Some guys will think she is very beautiful, but she was not exactly my taste. I am also convinced that she has a very high maintainance. In addition I felt she was psychologically strange, I got "a smell of trouble", so I decided just to have a few glasses of wine with her and not see her again. Interestingly, she invited herself to come back to my apartment so we "could talk more undisturbed"! I had to tell that I had a friend sleeping on the couch so it was no good idea!

When I came back around midnight, my "girlfriend" in bed gave me another blowjob to completion.)!

The next day my girl only wanted to stay in bed, she spent the day watching stupid TV programs and surfing the internet. I was on the beach. In the early evening I got another blowjob and went out to meet my "friends" – strangely she had no interest in going with me, she was happy with staying at home. Still she claimed she felt bad with stomach pains.

During the day I had had SMS contact with an Odessa girl (21 years old) who was looking for sponsor. She send SMS asking if I had a friend who could meet with her girlfriend. Then she asked if it was OK if her girlfriend came along in the evening. Because I would have a low profile – after all I could not bring a girl back to my apartment – I said yes, sure, bring her along.

We met at 9 pm and went to a restaurant. The girl I had had contact with was a brunette, 163, a face qualifying for an 8, but as I later would know: a body to 10. Her girlfriend was from Nikolaev, but now visiting and staying with my girl. She was a blond, 24, more womanly in her figure, beautiful face, but as I would later know: her body had some traces of having a child.

We had a meal and the girls were drinking cocktails and "sjampanska" in considerable quantities (the bill was a total of 1100 grivnas). Their English was bad, but better than my nonexisting Russian. The achohol, however, helped to create a good atmosphere.! Around midnight they asked me if maybe I wanted to sponsor 2 girls? ! I said I was open for that, but we could not go to my apartment, my friends were sleeping on the couch I said. This time it had to be a married couple because the girls were interested in meeting a male friend of mine as well!

No problem the girls said, we could go to their apartment, they were temporarily staying in an apartment of a girlfriend who was away. So we took a taxi to this place which was in one of the high houses close to Arcadia.

Very quickly we were in the shower and in the bed, with intensive sex for hours. I came back to my apartment at 5:30 after having lots and lots of sex, alternating between the girls. My "girlfriend" in my apartment was sleeping when I came back, and the next day she was flying home. I was happy she left, I was fed up with her, she had no other interest than TV and internet and stayed in bed the last 36 hours she was in Odessa.

To make a long story short, for the next 4 nights I was with the 2 girls. Two nights I was with both of them, 2 nights I had one of them alone. The girls were not really into girl sex, but when I fucked one, they were kissing. And when I did them in doggy style I instructed the other to play with the clitoris of the other which gave strong and easy orgasms. In between they did oral on me, even licking my dick from different sides at the same time. Or one had my dick in her mouth while the other was playing with my balls. We had sex for hours every night.

In between we talking on my computer using translator, because we had serious problems with conversation due to language problems. We went one more evening to restaurant, now much cheaper. The other evening we either did not eat or sent for pizza.

My brunette was 21, face qualified for 8, but with an almost perfect body, close to a 10. She was small and very slim, but not skinny. Her tits were surprisingly big for the small frame, and possibly the best quality of tits I ever saw! The were standing straight out in a 90 degree angel to her body and they were so firm that I seriously wondered if there was silicon (but it was not! ). She had only 2-3 orgasm during the night, but they were extremely strong.

The blonde girl had a beautiful face, was more womanly in her body with strong hips. Unfortunately her body had traces of childbirth. She had big, sensual, soft lips and was a fantastic kisser. She was multiorgasmic, probably had like 10 orgasms during the nights. Sexually she was better.

The girls told me they wanted to shop, but had no money! So I gave them money during the days, and almost every day they came back with new dress or shoes. All together these two girls got a total of USD 1000 from me.

They were very sweet girls and I will see them again!

Summary: for 8 days and nights in Odessa I had a fucking machine for 2 nights who later gave me blow jobs the 2 following days and nights. I was with the other 2 girls for 5 nights, one night overlapping with the "fucking machine". A very rewarding trip!

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Pizdyets
08-21-09, 20:47
You are wrong.

Read the Moscow thread, there are tourists ready to pay 10000 rubles for a fuck in Aurora 911, 10000 rubles are more than 300 dollars for what? for a pussy fucking hour? And Aurora 911 is the maximum quality now in Moscow.

Who do you think you're talking to, homes? I'm the bro who hooked you up at your hotel in Moscow! I have fucking lived there for 10 years. So don't be schooling me about the ins-and-outs of Moscow p4p... I personally never pay more than 8000 rubles for the entire night - and that's for whatever service I fucking want. Even BBFS should I choose (at least half have offered). The girls like me, and as a foreigner working in Russia, they know I'm checked for every possible STD regularly (and have the papers to prove it). Not that I take them up on it (hehe... not often at least!)

Anyway, I'm still mystified as to why an ugly ass ho would be plying her trade for $300/night in Odessa of all places. At least Explorer seemed to have found some grade A pussy for a reasonable price. Kudos, bro!

AColonizer
08-22-09, 07:20
You should know, you are an exception. You are not a 2-week tourist.

Do you know what is a "karolesky miniet"?


Who do you think you're talking to, homes? I'm the bro who hooked you up at your hotel in Moscow! I have fucking lived there for 10 years. So don't be schooling me about the ins-and-outs of Moscow p4p... I personally never pay more than 8000 rubles for the entire night - and that's for whatever service I fucking want. Even BBFS should I choose (at least half have offered). The girls like me, and as a foreigner working in Russia, they know I'm checked for every possible STD regularly (and have the papers to prove it). Not that I take them up on it (hehe... not often at least!)

Anyway, I'm still mystified as to why an ugly ass ho would be plying her trade for $300/night in Odessa of all places. At least Explorer seemed to have found some grade A pussy for a reasonable price. Kudos, bro!

LifeSavour
08-22-09, 07:44
The flight from Dnper: No way its $250 USD.

Cruiser D
08-22-09, 18:56
Explorer, I can see why you like Odessa and Odessa likes you. $3k on just three girls for 8 days. :)

LS, a last minute ticket from Dnper could cost $250

Piz, every possible STD? HPV, HSV. Getting checked for the Hep's and HIV does not mean one is clean. I wouldn't have BB anything with a girl unless I knew her very well and even then a note from the doctor. ;)

Ok SirMar, how about SearchTFF? The escort scene in Odessa has been covered over and over and over AND over again...

Pizdyets
08-23-09, 10:35
Piz, every possible STD? HPV, HSV. Getting checked for the Hep's and HIV does not mean one is clean. I wouldn't have BB anything with a girl unless I knew her very well and even then a note from the doctor. ;)


CD - last I heard, there is no test for HPV for men - even for women it's only the cervical variety. And why bother, because anyone who's been remotely sexually active has it... it's just dormant. Same with herpes. But syphillis, chlamdydia, gonorrhea, hep, HIV... they're all on the roster for a Russian work permit.

I'm with you on the BB (except for BJs). But so many times, I'm getting hot and heavy with a girl and when I reach for the tumbochka, she says "oh, I trust you..." This sort of attitude is exactly why I insist on using a condom.

Explorer69
08-23-09, 23:03
The flight from Dnper: No way its $250 USD.Well, the ticket was bought on internet and in my own currency. Depending on the exchange rate from day to day it may be betwen USD 250 and 300.

SirMarjAlot
08-24-09, 14:53
Ok SirMar, how about SearchTFF? The escort scene in Odessa has been covered over and over and over AND over again.Errrr why did I not think of that? Thats how I found this vodka escorts. If your in the know, then why don't you do a post exclusively on the odessa escort scene? And if its informative I'll add it the reports of distinction.

I shall be there tomorrow. I'm beginning to think each place has its own culture and has evolved. Maybe odessa, your best bet seems to join a load of Russian/ukraine dating sites, use google translate from cyrillic, then pay for the girls to meet you in Odessa, spend some money taking them shopping.

But maybe I'll get lucky.

I think it would be better if the forums were broken down more.

Place

Accomodation

Escorts

Massage

Kurenda
08-25-09, 19:53
Maybe a different approach?

Like going to some vacation spot in Crimea and then pay the girl to spend "vacation" with you?

Or stay in Kiev and pay the girl from Odessa to "show" her the capital.

Don't know how this will work with Odessa but in provinces there are many girls who are dying to spend 2-3 days in Kiev. Staying in expensive hotel, night out at popular clubs and restaurants, and of course shopping like crazy.
Good plan? Not that much. You'll get sex but when you count all costs it's much cheaper to pay a pro in Kiev - strictly business with no additional costs.

Fijiman
08-25-09, 20:00
I think it would be better if the forums were broken down more.

Place

Accomodation

Escorts

MassageAgree 100%. I consider this single thread structure to be woefully inefficient. I've always presumed this was done intentionally to hide information from any except the most determined perverts.

The ability to start different thread topics would increase the utility and traffic of this board 10-100 fold (in my opinion). For an example of what I'm talking about consider my hometown board. We get more traffic on that board for our one city than this board gets for the entire world.

Not knocking this board. Happy it's here. But the present structure is terribly inefficient.

Admin
08-25-09, 20:16
Agree 100%. I consider this single thread structure to be woefully inefficient. I've always presumed this was done intentionally to hide information from any except the most determined perverts.

The ability to start different thread topics would increase the utility and traffic of this board 10-100 fold (in my opinion). For an example of what I'm talking about consider my hometown board. We get more traffic on that board for our one city than this board gets for the entire world.

Not knocking this board. Happy it's here. But the present structure is terribly inefficient.Greetings everyone,

With all due respect, I start new threads that are suggested to me by members all the time.

All you have to do to have a new thread started is to use the "Report this Post to a moderator" link displayed in the lower left corner of ever report in the forum.

I look forward to your suggestions.

Thanks,

Jackson

BTW, in my opinion, many forums are overtly chaotic with members starting new threads on off-topic subjects and endlessly replicating the same topics in new threads.

Cruiser D
08-26-09, 01:14
If you absolutely don't want to show up in Odessa looking like a tool and want to do the least you possibly can to prepare yourself I suggest you; One, use the search feature or as I've coined STFF. Two, check out the reports of distinction thread.

For all you whining yo-yo's let me break it down for you, like it's already been done a dozen or so times in the Odessa thread. Odessa is crawling with sex crazed foreigners/tourists. The natives learned how to fleece you about 6-7 years ago and will play you like chump. There is no p4p scene to speak of unless you like port ho's who’s idea of a 'good night' is getting ganged banged by less then 8 Turks who have spent the last two months at sea doing each other. There is lots of eye candy but unless you – speak Russian, have a bag full of unlocked iPhone gs’s or have an ‘A’ game with the girls you will get shut out.

Otherwise have a great time.

Explorer69
08-26-09, 07:05
If you absolutely don't want to show up in Odessa looking like a tool and want to do the least you possibly can to prepare yourself I suggest you;

For all you whining yo-yo's let me break it down for you, like it's already been done a dozen or so times in the Odessa thread. Odessa is crawling with sex crazed foreigners/tourists. The natives learned how to fleece you about 6-7 years ago and will play you like chump. unless you like port ho's who’s idea of a 'good night' is getting ganged banged by less then 8 Turks who have spent the last two months at sea doing each other."One, use the search feature or as I've coined STFF. Two, check out the reports of distinction thread".

I agree!

"There is no p4p scene to speak of"

There is, but it is hidden very well. If you know a few phone numbers, there is a considerable undercover P4P, but if you just go to Odessa as the foreigner, you never notice. The reason why so many are frustrated is that there are no bars, no place where you easily can contact the P4P. One reason I think that everything is so hidden in Odessa is that everything is concentrated to a small area around Deribasovskaya and in this way Odessa is a small village, many people know a lot about everybody else.... But if you are an "insider" there is also a lot P4P for 2-3 hours. I haven't used it for 1-2 years, then the price was USD 150 for 2 hours.

There are some not good looking (rather mature, fat and ugly) pros hanging out on the streetwalk restaurants opposite the Irish Pub, but I don't know who will want them:)

"There is lots of eye candy but unless you – speak Russian, have a bag full of unlocked iPhone gs’s or have an ‘A’ game with the girls you will get shut out".

I am going to Odessa again for a week in 2 days. I have so many girls lined up for meetings that I am uncertain how to handle the situation. They are 18-24, they all want some relation and "sponsors". Yes, they expect something from you and if you only want to go and fuck for 1- to a few hours it is a waste. But I like to spend days with girls (if we get along of course) and then this does not cost more than if you fuck every day a new girl for 2-3 hours. And I like to have a "relationship" and to have a nice girl around for most of the time. Of course there are girls that I don't like and I get rid of them quickly, maybe before we have sex:).

I don't speak Russian!

For this kind of meetings there is a lot of girls to find in Odessa. But if you want to have sex for 1-2 hours and then want her to go: keep a long distance to Odessa!

SirMarjAlot
08-26-09, 07:57
Greetings everyone,

With all due respect, I start new threads that are suggested to me by members all the time.

All you have to do to have a new thread started is to use the "Report this Post to a moderator" link displayed in the lower left corner of ever report in the forum.

I look forward to your suggestions.

Thanks,

Jackson

BTW, in my opinion, many forums are overtly chaotic with members starting new threads on off-topic subjects and endlessly replicating the same topics in new threads.Agree with this also. A compromise is needed somewhere.

As for Odessa, I've always wanted to come, here for a few nights yet. so just maybe. Walked down the main drag last night, plenty busy with tourists(not sex), its more recon, until i came here i would have always wondered about it.

I just wish all Thai women not look the same and so far away.

Dominican and Brazil it will have to be next year if these Ukraine babes dont change my mind - maybe finding a english speaking taxi driver might change the odds in my favor. Right need to do some washing then a trip to Arkadia.

Have a nice day

SirMarjAlot
08-27-09, 08:57
Well last night left the apt late, got into the irish pub after 10pm. Just inside the door were two really sexy babes sitting there drinking coffee. Not sure at first if they were p4p. Not many others in there, a few expats at the bar.

One of the girls was dark medditerean, the other a fit perfect blonde, like a 10
Not really getting eye contact with them. After a while kind of forgot about them. But i thought 2 gorgeous girls like that, surely would have a couple of meatheads with them.

Later i noticed they had gone and went to the toilet, i was getting ready to goto the nightclub across the road. As i came out of the toilet they were in the female toilet, door open, pruning themselves in the mirror. The blonde looked me in the eyes and i said hello. She come over and smiled. She said for me to come and sit with them.

They were real sexy and just what the doctor would have recommended. They say they out relaxin before going to Akadia. Did I want to join them there. Not what i had in mind.

We then get onto the subject of where i stay and they invited themselves back to my apt. we agreed a price of 1500UAH each. I decided to go with this as the blonde was exceptional.

Back at the apt, im sat between them, rubbing my hands up the blondes legs and kissing the dark ones cleavage. They take a shower and in the bedroom drop their towels. The blonde is perfect, brazilian hairline, totally fit. Gave me a full erection just looking at her.

She puts on a condom(that i have, they not have any) and the blonde sucks and the dark one sucks my balls. The next thing the blonde is saying i really want some sex, and she sits on me and bounces up and down. I do lots of positions with her and the darky is caressing my balls or sticking her big tits in my face and french kissing me.

On top of the blonde and she is going i want you to cum inside me easy done and i do, she say well done superman I feel good.

The darkie wants me to fuck her now, but im empty, so she got off lightly but was a great sideshow, her there watching me fuck her beautiful friend.

At some points it was like having two adolecent teenagers in my apt, they were running around giggling, screaming, i mean you do have neighbours in your apt block and it was quite late.

Great girls, great company, great night, i dont care what else happens now in Odessa, i have had my perfect blonde, not made it out of the irish pub yet.

She wants me to meet her tonight at Atika nightclub. God maybe there is a bevy of blonde beauties in there. Im hooked on blonde pussy now.

But you do have to make the first move it seems, after getting the timing right and selecting your prey.

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Stavvrrooss
08-27-09, 12:19
Vodkaescort.com

Has anyone used it?

Are the photos real?

Do they ask for money in advance, or do you pay to the girl when you meet her?

Can you please recommend a nice short term rental apartment downtown Odessa?

Thanks

Hakan Demir
08-28-09, 10:26
I used the agency and met Katia in Turkey.

Strongly recommended.

You pay when the girl arrives.apts:

http://www.odessaexecutivesuites.com/

Great location and friendly.stayed a week and no problem.


Vodkaescort.com

Has anyone used it?

Are the photos real?

Do they ask for money in advance, or do you pay to the girl when you meet her?

Can you please recommend a nice short term rental apartment downtown Odessa?

Thanks

SirMarjAlot
08-29-09, 08:36
Yesterday took a taxi to the murphys pub at the port area. Cost me 50UAH.

Did not realise it was so near to the city centre, i thought it was of similar distance to Arkadia. Oh well the action is actually located around an area called Tamozennaya Square.

I got to the Murphys Irish pub around 6pm, there was a Ukrainian football match on against Barcelona and all the tables had been reserved.

Across the road is the supermarket and next door a real comfy little bar. Made myself comfy here. Around 7:30pm, the girls start turning up and they use the bar too as well as standing outside the supermarket.

Just around the corner and up a steep pedestrianised street is another two bars, again which the girls use.

I had a good look round but most of the girls there were not doing it for me.
Decided to take one more walk round to the supermarket before taking a taxi to Arkadia and noticed this really cute young blonde who looked like she was dressed up to goto Ibiza with her girly friends.

Got chatting, she speak hardly any English but there is always someone close by who does. She come to my apt 1 hour, 800UaH. I had to ask her age, her face looked young but her body was fully developed, a real Ukrainian cutie. What she was doing standing around here, i will never know.

I had to pay upfront there and another girl took the money and we take a taxi to my apt. Had to hand over another 50UAH to the driver.

In my apt, we relax and she wants me to give her a massage, cheek i thought it was the other way round.... she strips off to her panties and bra and really has a body to die for, although spoilt by some tatoos, a couple of self mutilation wounds on her arms and a slash across the side of her stomach. She signals that it was a knife.

In the bedroom she gives me good head for about 10mins covered of course. I then get on top and dont last too long. After i take a shower come back and she is fast asleep on my bed. I lay beside her and she cuddles up and she is now fast asleep in a deep sleep. I really dont want to wake her, but its over the hour now, and i start to think they will want to charge me more.

So i awaken her, she immediately rings a taxi, i hear him shouting down the phone. She takes a shower and then helps herself to my last bread, ham, cheese and tomato in the fridge. damn she needs it more than me.

She then leaves not before demanding a taxi fare. I dont give this to her, as the first 50UAH for me included the return fare.

Somewhere life has dealt this girl a bum deal and she is not going to recover from it.

I never made it too ITaka or the nightclubs down Arkadia. Today i return home, and to be honest looking forward to it. But Odessa is a place to fall in love with. Its challelenging but can be very rewarding. One day i shall definately return. Cannot say that about alot of places iv visited.

Got a fantastic oil painting from the stalls all around the big church. A painting of a stereotypical blonde Ukrainian girl, with the wind blowing up her small red dress with little white cotton panties on. that will always remind me of Odessa girls.

Explorer69
09-03-09, 00:15
I am now back in Odessa after my great time there a few weeks back. So far, this time has not been as successful as my last visit, although I have no reason to complain.All together I am here for 1 week.

I had done a lot of research on internet and I had several candidates to choose from. On arrival I started to call: no. 1 was down with flu, no.2 could not come because she had to help her mother with something, no. 3. did not answer, no. 4 had to go out of town to babuschka who was ill!! No. 5 answered and she was keen to meet, thank God! So pussy would probably be available for the evening. This girl was a 19 year old student, she had announced to me that she needed money and sponsor! Promising! I had seen several photos of her face and top of breasts, telling me that she had a sweet, round and almost childish face and big breasts, but no whole body photos. Mistake no.1!

We met outside Afina shopping centre and the moment I saw her I decided to turn around, but she had already seen me and waved. She was maybe 165 cm, but must have been 100 kg, maybe more. Her ass was enormous! My God! What to do?? But now it was after 9 pm, other opportunities were lost and a strike of perversity came into my mind: how would it be to fuck this elephant? So bought some food necessities, wine etc. and went for my apartment.

Mistake no. 2. I had never checked her English properly before, I knew it was bad, but not like this! My Russian is non-existent (5-10 words). She spoke maybe 20-30 words of English! But we went to the laptop, she used a virtual Russian keyboard and we chatted with translator for maybe 2 hours, it turned out that she was a very nice girl with a sweet personality. And she had one of these teardripping stories about father died a few weeks ago, she and mother had nothing to live for, she had to stop university. These stories have become much more frequent the last year. She wanted a longterm relationship and sponsorship and she did not want to start in bed! I said I was not ready for any longer relationship and if we ever should meet again, we needed a test ride!!! She agreed on that, she understood my view! So into the shower, first her, then me.

I never have been close to having sex with anything like this! Her ass was enormous, so were her breasts. My two hands were unable to cup one breast! She had told me that she had never had an orgasm in her life. Well, maybe an old pig can help on that, and oral is usually the best way, so I went to work. The problem was that although I spread her thighs as much as possible, it was difficult to get to her clit because of the enormous fatty labia! When I got so deep that I had good contact with the clit, I could not breathe!

I worked for maybe 45 minutes, she was very excited, but no orgasm! I was totally exhausted and sweating like a pig, and had to rest. Now she wanted to fuck, she climbed on top of me with the 100 kgs and worked really hard. After some time I wanted to change into doggy, but the ass was so enormous I would need to have a 30 cm dick to get properly into the pussy, I was only fucking in fat. So finally missionary, where we had a reasonably good fuck, reasonable for the circumstances….

After some rest, she got alive again and now gave me a blowjob (without till completion and swallowed). Her blowjob was actually very good!. But then she had to go home to mother.

What to give for money in such a situation? In principle nothing, but due to her sweet personality and terrible life situation I gave her USD 200… nothing for me, a fortune for her…...

To end this, she bombarded me with SMS the next 2 days and wanted to meet, in the end I made it clear that no more meeting, I said we could not have relation when her English was so bad. I felt sorry for her.

Next day I had an appointment with a girl from Nikolaev, 20 years, that looked really hot on her photos. That was girl no. 2 I called the day before. She was coming into Odessa because she studied there and now should start her university on September 1st. First she said she would be in Odessa at 3 pm. At 4 pm I called and then she said she would be there at 6 pm. At 6.15 pm she said she started from Nikolaev. At 9. 15 she called she was outside. I walked down to meet her. There she was sitting in a taxi from Nikolaev: 500 grivna! What to do, if not paying the pussy was gone because the guy was too cheap! Scam! Then she got out of the taxi, but surprise: she had a girlfriend with her, very bad sign. Everybody into my apartment. Another surprise! Her hot photos was an example of good photoshopping and she was at least 10-15 kg more than shown on the photos, and her had not the quality I had seen. Furthermore, she did not speak English either, it turned out that when I thought I spoke with her, I had spoken with one of her girlfriends who knew English! The girlfriend who now came along as bodyguard didn’t speak English either. I did not want more fat girls with whom I could not speak, so after 1 hour and a glass of wine/juice I politely – I stress: politely – said that I felt we were not made for each other. They took the hint and left. The next day I got several SMS telling me that I was a pig and a liar. Pig? Yes! Liar? No!

Now the time was close to 11 pm, what to do? I could make some calls, for instance to the notorious Dina, but I usually like to see in advance what I get. So I decided to go to Captain Morgan, there are sometimes semipros. Tonight it was dead. Coming out from CM I suddenly got the idea to go to a new strip club I had seen announced, the address is Ekaterinskaya 25 which is across the street from CM. First I didn’t find it, because the entrance is around the corner. Entrance 100 grivna.

To make a long story short: this one of the best strip clubs I have been to. Nice girls, some very beautiful, good shows, not only taking off their clothes, but SHOWS. Girls offering private dances, but not too pushy, they accepted a polite NO. And best of all: first time I have been in a strip club and not been ripped off!! I was there for 3 hours, had 3 gin tonic and 2 cocktails for girls: 330 grivna (= 40 USD). Unbelievable! But there were many possibilities to spend much money. Private dances were 200 grivnas. You could take out a girl for the night for 4800 grivnas, girls were very open for that, but without sex (!). I guess some girls would do sex, I only asked two. Best thing: I spoke with maybe the hottest girl there, she was the one who got 2 cocktails, she was free the next evening and we decided to meet for dinner.

Next evening at 7 we met, we had dinner and we ‘clicked”. Very beautiful, clever girl, interesting, spoke excellent English. After dinner to my apartment for “a drink and talk”, and we had a great night with high quality sex for hours.

The next night she had to work, but she came to me for sex at 4 pm, and then went directly to the club at 9 pm. Everything was great and I told her I would drop by the club around 11 after I had a dinner. I came to club, she came to me and had a cocktail. After some time she told me she had to circulate, it was the rule of the club unless I bought her free time (=1200 grivnas for 1 hour). I told her to circulate and come back later.

I enjoyed the good shows and I noticed a little spinner with a marvellous body. She noticed I noticed her and she came to my table. We had some talk and then she more or less volunteered her number, she was free the following night and I knew the girl I had would be working the next night! I was drooling! Later I talked a little with my first girl and went home.

The next morning I woke up at 10 and sent immediately an SMS. This I must explain: I met a girl here in summer 2006, she was then 21, we met several times during the next few months, I even had her fly to me in St Petersburg early in autumn 2006. Then she found a local guy. In autumn 2007 I met her again in Odessa and we met several times into winter 2008. Since that we meet now and then on Skype, maybe every second month. By coincidence we met a week before I now went to Odessa again. During the last year she had some rich Russian as her boyfriend, but when talking it was clear that she was not too happy. I said on Skype that I would not disturb her life so we should not meet, she had to be with him every evening? Yes, she said, but not at daytime!!! I got her new phone number and she asked me to send SMS when I arrived. The day I arrived I sent SMS, I got only the answer “welcome to Odessa”. But the day before this she sent SMS and asked what I was doing the next day.

Now I sent SMS and said I was free, “I am waiting to see you”. Answer: “I come at 12”! She came, after some talk for an hour to keep up with what had happened since last we met it was sex on-off for several hours, but around 5:30 she said she had to leave and that was Ok with me, that was the time when I had promised to call stripper no. 2.

This girl always gave very good sex including excelllent blowjobs. She did not easily have orgasms, but they were very powerful. She only had orgasms from oral sex, she never had orgasms just from fucking. She could have one or two very strong orgasms by prolonged oral sex. What became quite clear without her saying it explicitly was that her Russian lover/boyfriend was more into fucking so orgasms were rather few. When I went into the last session with oral, she said no, no, I have never more than two! In the end she got the third very powerful orgasm. I wonder if her Russian got sex that evening – what kind of sex?

What also was interesting were some changes in her. Before she had been a standard Odessa girl, now she came very elegantly and expensively dressed with lot of jewelry. So her Russian had money. The bad thing was that she who is slim had gained a lot of weight, and it was almost exclusively a round her waist. Maybe not more than 6-7 kgs, but that is a lot for a small, slim girl when most of it is around her waist. If she is not careful, the Russian will find another one.

Another interesting thing is how she now was conditioned to sex. As soon as the dick was close to her she just turned her back towards me for doggy, or when the dick was in front, she opened her legs. This was like a reflex and it was new, I think she has been trained hard by her Russian?

She left and I checked my phone. During all the fucking I had heard that SMSs were coming in. Now there was a series of SMS from 2 strippers telling me that I was a liar and a pig and I could fuck myself! Mistake no. 3: I had forgotten that girls talk between them! Mistake no. 4: If you try to ride 2 horses, you may fall off. So then, yesterday was lonely evening. And I guess I cannot go back to the strip club, the moment I am there the girls will regard me like the plague.

Today has been some relaxation, and some work on the computer, some phones, no girl, but for tomorrow I have one girl (20 year old) lined up for the afternoon, that will be no sex, only investment for the future, in the evening a hot 21 year old looking for sponsor. Nobody knows the night until the sun rises.

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Explorer69
09-04-09, 01:10
Let me continue my experiences from Odessa. First I can give a little background. I am not the usual sex tourist. I have been to Kiev maybe 30 times in connection with my work. Usually very short trips, 2-5 days. Therefore I have gone more for pros and semipros than freebies, because the time is short and I am busy during the days, sometimes with business dinners. And 50+ is of course a serious handicap regarding freebies

I have the same thing in St Petersburg where I also have been around 30 times.

In Odessa I have an apartment and Odessa is vacation and fun only:)!

However, this gives me a good credibility with the girls because I have “good reasons” to be in Ukraine. I don’t like short term sex (1-2 hours) like going to a salon. I like either to go to a place where I can talk with the girls first (RP, strip clubs etc.) or find a girl to sponsor for some time, for a weekend or sometimes much longer. And if I find a girl that I like I prefer to meet her again instead of chasing another one the next evening. I have found this to be very rewarding. Over the years I have had several longer relations with girls both in Ukraine and Russia, and often I have not reported from my visits because I spend it together with only one girl whom I know from before and she is some kind of girlfriend.

The strange thing is that although I am 50+ some of these girls have developed real love relations with me. I am quite well off and possibly more generous than some others, but I have also had girls to whom I gave very little and they still are very eager… I also had my part of being scammed and many have tried, a few have succeeded, so I am not blind to this. And I am aware that my wallet may be/is a big attraction… But I have also been cheated seriously…

I have a rather extensive experience in longterm sponsoring girls and the majority of these have developed into true relations where I had to make decision: be more serious or stop in order not to hurt the girl too much, so I stopped. And I am totally convinced that a 50+ man from Western Europe who marries a 20 year old student girl from Ukraine or Russia is a complete idiot! Or any 20 year old girl!

I have normally had very good experiences in Odessa, although I have been cheated here. However, I don’t understand those that say that Odessa girls are worse than others. I have had wonderful experiences here….

Back to my visit now: For today – or rather yesterday, it is now 2:30 am – I had 2 appointments, one for 3-4 pm, and then one girl in the evening whom I thought was looking for sponsor .

I wrote in my last report yesterday about my “old” girlfriend whom had a Russian boyfriend and who visited me during the day. At 2:30 pm she called me and asked what I was doing, she wanted to have lunch with me! It turned out that her Russian was out of the city… I had to say that I was busy, but maybe we could meet late in the evening. She said yes, if it was not too late. It turned out it became too late. But would have meant plenty of good sex!

So I waited for my first appointment. She never appeared and did not answer the phone! So another loss. I then had phone contact with no. 2, she was very keen, but asked if it was OK to come together with a girlfriend? A very bad sign usually. But she added that her girlfriend could be asked to leave after some time…!!! Great!!

At 8 pm they arrived, and first thing they asked a little nervously if I was alone or if some other guy lived with me. No, No, I asked them to check the apartment. After an hour with drinks and talk we went to a restaurant for dinner. I felt before that this girl was looking for money and a sponsor. I was totally wrong. They actually lived outside Odessa, about 30 km. I often have with me a few bottles of perfume – it is a key to make girls happy. This time I had 2 bottles and I had not given them before, so I just gave them to these two girls. They went almost ballistic, they were so grateful, they could not believe their luck! They were very innocent village girls, but with some style still. Serious students, and my girl had studied 3 years in Kiev, now she studied in Odessa. She was also very beautiful.

To make a long story short: these girls were so fun, so sweet, so good, we had a good time in restaurant, this old pig just felt good to be with them, have a good time and talk. They then came back to the apartment for a nightcap and I sent them home in a taxi (300 grivna) at 1 am, the last bus had left at 10 pm. No pussy, but I was happy with a great evening in the company of 2 very good and sweet girls who really didn’t ask for anything. In the restaurant they were very worried it would be too expensive. Of course I will see them again, my girl and I make appointment to meet in Kiev for my next trip there. So there is nothing like a free dinner for the girl, hehe…

What were these girls after?

I really don’t know. They were looking for relation? With me, 50+? Well, the “bodyguard” or accompanying girl was very keen to practice English. Sponsor? Maybe? I will see next time.

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Denails
09-04-09, 06:56
Explorer69

Forgive, you met Elli? This harmonious blonde became heavier on 6 - 7 kg? I know that she lives with parents. And the Russian friend wishes it to see not every evening. It simply sponsors.

Denails
09-04-09, 07:00
Explorer69,

Forgive, you met Elli? This harmonious blonde became heavier on 6 - 7 kg? I know that she lives with parents. And the Russian friend wishes it to see not every evening. It simply sponsors.

Denails
09-04-09, 07:38
Explorer69,

Forgive, you met Elli? This harmonious blonde became heavier on 6 - 7 kg? I know that she lives with parents. And the Russian friend wishes it to see not every evening. It simply sponsors.

Explorer69
09-05-09, 17:06
I have had a few PMs regarding apartment in Odessa, so write it here. I have an apartment there myself and when I am not there, I have an agency manage it for rental. I let them do this because I used them before as a guest, and I discovered that this agency (American-owned and with extremely friendly female manager and co-manager in Odessa) always was 100% reliable, friendly, honest and helpful in every way.

It is http://www.odessaapts.com, and I can recommend them unconditionally.

Except that they manage my apartment, I have no connection with them in any way, I have no finanacial benefits except that they manage my apartment. I don't think they read this forum (hope not!) so they will not read what I write here. And I let them manage my apartment because of the excellent experiences I had with them earlier as a guest.

They have many, many apartments, many of which are more or less on Deribasovskaya, for all tastes, from cheap to real luxury.

It is the same owner as in Kiev: http://www.kievapts.com/, also extremely good and reliable service.

Explorer69
09-07-09, 06:55
Explorer69,

Forgive, you met Elli? This harmonious blonde became heavier on 6 - 7 kg? I know that she lives with parents. And the Russian friend wishes it to see not every evening. It simply sponsors.I am not certain whom you mean? The girl I met does not have the name Elli.

Denails
09-08-09, 06:30
Explorer69,

Possibly I am mistaken, but judging by the years mentioned by you then the pleasant person by name of Ella or Ellionora was very active. Its real name Lena. It was Anton's girlfriend. I was surprised about its kgs a little. Saw in its spring, something was superfluous in weight. But + 6 - 7 kg it already 65 kg +, much. Forgive, if was mistaken)

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Bez Bezarra
09-08-09, 15:49
We agreed a price of 1500UAH each.

I decided to go with this as the blonde was exceptional.

Great girls, great company, great night, i dont care what else happens now in Odessa, i have had my perfect blonde, not made it out of the irish pub yet.



Too bad no fotos, or age. So we'll guess 23 years?

Guess that sounds like a typical price to pay in 2009 in Odessa for a tag team of freelance pros, but it still seems kinda expensive.

As long as your happy, that's what counts!

Even in the provinces, I budget about $300 a day for maximum fun on the weekends, though I don't consistently get the chance to spend it, if I adhere to minimum requirements on the level of quality. Certainly there have been exceptions when I've well overspent that, when faced with multiple opportunities at the higher levels. Life is a merry-go-round!

SirMarjAlot
09-09-09, 19:15
Too bad no fotos, or age. So we'll guess 23 years?

Guess that sounds like a typical price to pay in 2009 in Odessa for a tag team of freelance pros, but it still seems kinda expensive.

As long as your happy, that's what counts!

Even in the provinces, I budget about $300 a day for maximum fun on the weekends, though I don't consistently get the chance to spend it, if I adhere to minimum requirements on the level of quality. Certainly there have been exceptions when I've well overspent that, when faced with multiple opportunities at the higher levels. Life is a merry-go-round!Yep it was a one off. I was not going to let them go, I intended to have a night to remember. And it was certianly that. Lucky I interecepted them in the pub before they went to Itaka else they would have been lost in there.

Problem is people really drill the point when they consider someone has overpaid. Its important that people on these forums are honest.

Explorer69, I stood outside that strip-tease club but decided to give it a miss unfortnately your report came a few days after. Enjoy reading your reportsm warts and all is the way it is and always will be. Would love you to go into some detail of your past and how you were scammed etc. Would be an education for us all, I'm sure.

I also booked through OdessaApts and I would definately use them again. They do look after you.

I'll attach a pic of the girls leaving my apartment. I shall return one day.

She txt me a few days later. Did I want to meet up for "relax, kiss, sex".

Yes I did very much but back home now.

Bez Bezarra
09-10-09, 11:56
My Russian is non-existent (5-10 words).And you've been in the FSU over SIXTY TIMES????

I'm no cunning linguist, but at least they can understand most of what I try to say in their language, with less than 20 visits.

What I'm trying to say, is that I get much farther and have a much better time with dyevs that don't speak any English, even though I always need to have some contact with one or two that speak a little bit.

But if I spoke 10 words of Russian, I don't think I would get anywhere with many of them.

Explorer69
09-10-09, 16:54
And you've been in the FSU over SIXTY TIMES????

I'm no cunning linguist, but at least they can understand most of what I try to say in their language, with less than 20 visits.

What I'm trying to say, is that I get much farther and have a much better time with dyevs that don't speak any English, even though I always need to have some contact with one or two that speak a little bit.

But if I spoke 10 words of Russian, I don't think I would get anywhere with many of them.You are right, that is my status with Russian. But I have to explain: I go to FSU for business, I usually arrive, have day meetings with people who speak English, fuck in the evening and the night, and then work the next day, again speaking English.

My visits are usually very short, 2-3-4 days in this way.

I am aware that I would do much better if I know Russian, at least the selection would be MUCH larger. But there is still a reasonable selction for me to meet, so. And my daily life is too busy, so I never got the big motivation to include learning Russian.

The only times I were on longer trips (1 week) is in Odessa because there I have an apartment and I go for holiday.

Explorer69
09-10-09, 23:32
Explorer69,

Possibly I am mistaken, but judging by the years mentioned by you then the pleasant person by name of Ella or Ellionora was very active. Its real name Lena. It was Anton's girlfriend. I was surprised about its kgs a little. Saw in its spring, something was superfluous in weight. But + 6 - 7 kg it already 65 kg +, much. Forgive, if was mistaken)

620932I will be discreet and not comment in order not to say anything that may identify the girl, but I still think we are talking about different girls? Sorry!

Golfinho
09-11-09, 01:39
You are right, that is my status with Russian. But I have to explain: I go to FSU for business, I usually arrive, have day meetings with people who speak English, fuck in the evening and the night, and then work the next day, again speaking English.

My visits are usually very short, 2-3-4 days in this way.

I am aware that I would do much better if I know Russian, at least the selection would be MUCH larger. But there is still a reasonable selction for me to meet, so. And my daily life is too busy, so I never got the big motivation to include learning Russian.

The only times I were on longer trips (1 week) is in Odessa because there I have an apartment and I go for holiday.if this is still the Odessa thread...end of August I was in Odessa and stayed at the Palladium (reported this earlier) where one of the doormen (an older guy, sort of a peter lorre-type character) gave me a phone number for a Girl Delivery Service. Tried it and the service was excellent and convenient. (cost $100 per hour). Described to the phone voice what I wanted and she showed up an hour later with two to choose from.

Explorer69
09-11-09, 09:20
if this is still the Odessa thread...end of August I was in Odessa and stayed at the Palladium (reported this earlier) where one of the doormen (an older guy, sort of a peter lorre-type character) gave me a phone number for a Girl Delivery Service. Tried it and the service was excellent and convenient. (cost $100 per hour). Described to the phone voice what I wanted and she showed up an hour later with two to choose from.There are several girls deliveries in Odessa, the most wellknown in this forum is Dina's, but also several others.

Everything in Odessa is rather hidden away.

SirMarjAlot
09-11-09, 18:26
There are several girls deliveries in Odessa, the most wellknown in this forum is Dina's, but also several others.

Everything in Odessa is rather hidden away.So when in Odessa, how does one make contact with this Dina?

Explorer69
09-13-09, 14:47
So when in Odessa, how does one make contact with this Dina?I haven't used her services for 1-2 years, but as far as i know she is still active. Before you go to Odessa next time, PM me:), I will give her number:)

Ragingorgynuns
09-15-09, 19:38
I haven't used her services for 1-2 years, but as far as i know she is still active. Before you go to Odessa next time, PM me:), I will give her number:)Is there a way to look at what's on the menu before hand? Or do you just have to call her up and hope she sends someone who is 8+?

Explorer69
09-16-09, 19:37
Is there a way to look at what's on the menu before hand? Or do you just have to call her up and hope she sends someone who is 8+?As I said I haven't used Dina's services recently. Actually she is a bit strange person and a little unpredictable. Sometimes you can see her walking on Deribasovskaya in the evening, sometimes alone, sometimes with some girl (s).

You call her and say what you want and she will arrive with a girl. Although she tells you that the girl is "very beautiful" that is sometimes far from the truth. Her girls are rather standard next door girls, like in the 6-7- at best 8. Range, I guess the stunners have other and maybe better posibilities.

The good thing about her girls is that they are often not so experienced in this game, they are only students, waitresses, or working in some shop or office who want some extra money. Therefore they are shy and not very professional, I like that. And if you click you can have real GFE. But don't expect a very experienced WG and most of them have clear limits what they do or don't do. The majority have VERY limited English, but you can ask for an English speaking.

But there are some exceptions, for instance the famous and rather experienced Suzie and Sasha from a couple of years back also worked with Dina.

You cannot really see the girls in advance, but if you ask her she arrives with 2-3 girls and you choose. I guess you are also free to send here away with the girl if you do not like the girl. With a small compensation. I would think she will then be back later with another "hopeful" girl?

She always come together with the girl and she collects the money herself before session. That never caused any problem. I guess she does this to prevent the girl from making "some special deal". But I have on a few occasions made a deal with her girls for the next day.

There are also more and possible better options, but those I have only had contact with through local contacts, I don't have numbers. But there are a lot of girls that do a trick now and then to improve their economy. But as I said before, this is all very hidden in Odessa, probably because in many ways Odessa is a big village, it seems that a lot of people know what a lot of people are doing.

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Rulerk
11-23-09, 07:08
I suppose I should just post this every 30 days or so to remind people, but I am currently living in Odessa and therefore available to hang out and go skirt chasing pretty much anytime.

PM me and we can exchange contact info.

RulerK

P.S. I'm starting to get tired of all the BS in Odessa and thinking about making a move to Dnepropetrovsk, permanently. Has anyone put in some serious time there that would be willing to share their ideas/experiences - and yes, I know about the DP forum.

Osmotico77
11-28-09, 01:04
Hi Rulerk, how is the situation in Odessa right now? I was there with friends in August and it was great in Arkadia at Ibiza. If I go there at beginning or end of December, what will I find? I guess it is not like in summertime, but will I find something interesting? Any winter club? Any good place to pick up and know nice girls?

I do not speak Russian, just 10-20 words and I want to go there alone this time. Thanks for any advice.

Green Lord
11-28-09, 23:14
Hi there! Am simple guy from Malta. I just want to share my experience about Odessa. I was there last Winter. It was nice, what I really liked is that there weren't tourists at all. You can walk on empty streets. Besides that there are many entertainment like discos, bars and. Girls. I love Ukrainian girls! They are gorgeous, sexy and most of them looking for elder guys. I'm going to Odessa on December as well. I expect to have a few romantic dated booked through Adam and Eva dating agency. Also I'm going to spend great time with hot Odessa Escorts.

Does somebody know about hight-class Escorts in Odessa?. Honestly speaking, I found many Call girls, and students (prostitutes) on discos but just few Escorts. I do need fluent English speaking girl and very professional the same time. I made booking with an escort agency, but it's located in Kiev. However, they promised to send an Escort to Odessa. Also, am would like to meet petite Sarah but not sure. Does someone know her? Her web site is http://odessa. Escort24.com

Thanks for your help in advance!

AColonizer
11-29-09, 00:18
I found this site:

http://imperia-xxx.od.ua/

If somebody doesn't speak Russian, then he can use www.imtranslator.com, also with Firefox plugin.

It seems to be a good agency because it promises all kind of sex services (at last!).

But who has tried that agency? Which are your experiences with that agency?

Green Lord
11-29-09, 20:20
Sorry, just made a small mistake at my last post with name of her. God, she looks so young and naive. I can't believe is possible to have adult date with her.

The real web site is http://odessa.escort24h.com/

Green Lord
11-29-09, 21:08
Thanks for advise. I think there are not so many proper escorts in Odessa :( Kiev is much better for that. Oh.. and I want to fix my mistake with given web site last time, the name was http://odessa.escort24h.com

I've booked this lady already. Hope she is as good as she says.

Reiner Otto
11-29-09, 23:14
in August and it was great in Arkadia at Ibiza. If I go there at beginning or end of December, what will I find?
Arcadia will be dead because of weather.
Towards end of December not bad, because that is time before end-of-year holidays for the schools/unis. Party time.

Eros74
11-29-09, 23:15
At these prices and with covered BJ and no anal, it seems to me a total rip off, maybe she neither allow DFK and DATY.... I guess she can work only with foreigners....another case of zolotystaya pizda.....

Hype912
11-30-09, 01:23
Hi there! Am simple guy from Malta. I just want to share my experience about Odessa. I was there last Winter. It was nice, what I really liked is that there weren't tourists at all. You can walk on empty streets. Besides that there are many entertainment like discos, bars and. Girls. I love Ukrainian girls! They are gorgeous, sexy and most of them looking for elder guys. I'm going to Odessa on December as well. I expect to have a few romantic dated booked through Adam and Eva dating agency. Also I'm going to spend great time with hot Odessa Escorts.

Does somebody know about hight-class Escorts in Odessa?. Honestly speaking, I found many Call girls, and students (prostitutes) on discos but just few Escorts. I do need fluent English speaking girl and very professional the same time. I made booking with an escort agency, but it's located in Kiev. However, they promised to send an Escort to Odessa. Also, am would like to meet petite Sarah but not sure. Does someone know her? Her web site is http://odessa. Escort24.com

Thanks for your help in advance!There are a couple of unadvertised Escort agencies in Odessa that offer attractive girls, although the prices are comparable to the girl in the link you provided. Typically about $200 per hour. No Anal, No BBBJ etc. Contact is generally made through a network of servers in certain City Center restaurants.

Your best bet in Odessa will be at the Irish Pub on Deribasovskaya Street. There are quite a few working girls in there for the sole purpose of meeting foreigners.

Another good place to check out is a strip club called Zaghigalka (the Russian word for "Lighter"). Its located a few blocks down from Deribasovskaya, not too far from Captain Morgan's Bar/Club, which is yet another good place to pick up P2P girls. Cover is 50 gr, private dances are 20 gr/5min and if you like a girl then you can "take her out for a drink" for one hour (2000gr). There's another strip club that offers similar services in the City Center, but its name eludes me.

If you're staying in the City Center than check out Vis-a-Vis, which is located a few doors down from the Irish Pub. Its quite a happening club on the weekends. Mainly a trendy place for locals, but there are a some P2P girls there, with the possibility of meeting the odd freebie as well.

Not sure about whats up at Arkadia, as I've only visited it during the summer months. I generally prefer the City Center during my visits to Odessa.

Good Luck.

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Bez Bezarra
11-30-09, 09:45
God, Sarah looks so young and naive.

I can't believe is possible to have sex.

Web site http://odessa.escort24h.com



Sorry Greeny, I was only joking you, really your insight is most the highly impressive.

She is guaranteed she saved it for you the virgins purity, so don't object to pay some extra price to take her first deflowerations down there.

Probably agency will ask that your teaching to her what are adult date positions, and explain demonstrations how to using the kondons.

But she so niave young and never learned about preservatives yet, and you can spurt in her some Malta baby?

Green Lord
11-30-09, 22:26
Hello, Bez Bezarra! Thanks for your nice answer. But I think you will agree with me that Escort girls can be of ANY age. And it doesn't connect with what they writing at their profiles. They can simply lie. So, your joke is not in time.

I had a few dates with escort cheaters. I mean if you book girl from provided photo but receive completely different female. Besides that she is old & ugly. I bet all of guys here had such experience.

Gergiev
12-02-09, 05:14
http://odessa.escort24h.com

I've booked this lady already. Hope she is as good as she says.

God, she looks so young and naive. I can't believe is possible to have adult date with her.

Also, am would like to meet petite Sarah but not sure.

Does someone know her?

Well, em yes, actually YOU do.

In fact, you wrote about her a few days ago in the Istanbul branch.

Only this time she was "Scandinavian Rose"...





While my last visit to Istanbul I had a good time with Scandinavian lady. We were at "360°" Restaurant first hen we had a hot night at her hotel "Swissotel". http://ros.ewebsite.com

Full report here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=959580&postcount=3639





And it doesn't connect with what they writing at their profiles. They can simply lie.

I had a few dates with escort cheaters. I mean if you book girl from provided photo but receive completely different female.

Hard to argue with that.

But if you don't mind me asking, seeing as you've already had the pleasure of this, em, "Scandinavian" dyev in Istanbul recently why are you requesting information about what she would be like back in dear old Odesa ???





I can tell more details if someone interested. If it helps I'm happy.

I'll bet you are!

Looking forward to hearing back from you, old boy...

Goo-Goo.

Bez Bezarra
12-02-09, 08:40
Load Green Bogey, are YOU so naive you can't believe its possible to get BUSTED by ISG scam detectors!

Gergiev
12-03-09, 02:47
Load Green Bogey, are YOU so naive you can't believe its possible to get BUSTED by ISG scam detectors!
Bez,

Forget about Lubyanka, Bucharest and 1968.

The purges are ongoing and will continue in all circumstances :)

Baron GG.

Green Lord
12-04-09, 01:06
Hello, Gergiev!

You are so clever. Maybe you will tell us, how do you know that? To be sure in what you said, you had to be with this girl at least two times (in Ukraine and abroad). Don't take it personally, but maybe you are simply Boss of this girl.

But if true, I do like small blonds. I've seen so many of them in Vilnius. Can't forget.

Oh. And about fake escort, just want to warn everybody http://Kiev-golden-escorts.com/vip/15/

I know exactly about this girl and her stolen photos. And much more.

Does someone know fake escorts with stolen photos?.

AColonizer
12-05-09, 05:14
First rule: avoid any escort sites in English only or for English audience only. That's logic their prices are 10 times the usual price.

People are looking for good escorts, but the problem is to look for just one good escort, because one out 100 escorts is a girlfriend experience or a pornstar experience, all the rest are shit.

For example, near my work place in Italy, there is a young prostitute looking like Veronika Zemanova and doing everything for cheap rates: I am often amused to read Westerners who travel abroad instead to have hard sex with the rare but cheap prostitutes in their own Western countries.

Gergiev
12-07-09, 05:06
Don't take it personally, but maybe you are simply jealous because I am Boss of this girl.

My dear Lord Ga-Ga,

Far from being jealous I am actually quite impressed by your promotional abilities.

And you deserve our undying gratitude for "coming out with your hands up" and admitting your beneficial interest in this girl instead of denying all and prolonging the agony for all of us.

So we commend you for that...

However the appropriate place for this kind of "product placement" is in the "Classified Ads" section so kindly instigated by General Jackson, our inspirational Commander-In-Chief.





To be sure in what you said, you had to be with this girl at least two times (in Ukraine and abroad).

For my own part I've always found that exchanging bodily fluids once with any young maiden has been sufficient to comprehensively establish identity.

Certainly further visits can lead to increasing levels of erotic satisfaction but not necessarily to enhanced verification of identity.

...well, not since Edison went public with his electric light thingy over 100 years ago anyway...


So, my dear Ga-Ga, hopefully this clears up any suggestion of a disagreeable misunderstanding between us.

It goes without saying that I wish you every success with your lovely young Scandinavian of Ukrainian extraction and many fruitful hours of commercial passion in Istanbul, Odesa and wherever next you choose to bring this carnival of carnality to.

VG.


If there are still any outstanding matters between us I'll be joining Admiral Kletskov for "refreshments" and cigars at 6pm at Konstantinovskaya in Sevastopol next Wednesday evening.

If you happen to be in the vicinity do feel free to drop in.

Jaw-Jaw is always better than War-War, wouldn't you say ???

Freebie Sevman
12-07-09, 08:01
My dear Lord Ga-Ga,

..........

outstanding matters between us I'll be joining Admiral Kletskov for "refreshments" and cigars at 6pm at Konstantinovskaya in Sevastopol next Wednesday evening.

If you happen to be in the vicinity do feel free to drop in.

Jaw-Jaw is always better than War-War, wouldn't you say ???I love the smell of a good 'cee Garr' , just don't like to smoke 'em!!

Let me know?

Gergiev
12-10-09, 03:14
I love the smell of a good 'cee Garr' , just don't like to smoke 'em!!

Let me know?

Serious? Lets 'hook up'?

FS,

Tried to PM you yesterday but looks like you're not subscribed...

Gergiev.

Rulerk
12-15-09, 23:34
Hey, sorry for the slow reply. My internet was dodgy, then I lost my apartment and now I'm traveling in France for a bit.

What I can tell you about Odessa in the wintertime. Is that it sucks. This winter has been the best autumn in three years because it stayed warm into December, however now that the cold has set it, its back to usual. As someone else, said, the streets are bare. Of both tourists and girls. The attitude changes immensely with the cold weather as well, and not for the better. The girls who might have stopped and talked to you in summer will not in winter. All the Arkadiya clubs are closed and their wintertime counterparts tend to be filled with mafia & new Russians. Kiev is much better for wintertime entertainment. The girls in Odessa hardly ever speak english and without Russian, you'll either need a translator or need to get lucky. Money talks, but not as much as it does in Kiev. The Odessa girls have been spoiled by foreign businessmen, marriage agency propects, and new Russians.

I highly recommend against it in the winter, but if you bother to come to Odessa, I recommend either the Tavria in the Afina shopping center or Puzata Hata in Europa shopping center where people tend to have lunch more in winter or McDonalds. The three decent clubs during winter are Yo, Vechernaya Odessa (Vecherka) or Praetoria, or the two Turkish bars, Arena (previously Turkwaz) or Reina (previously Laila); Vis-a-vis is a lounge.

Drop me a PM with your phone# and we can hang.

-RulerK


Hi Rulerk, how is the situation in Odessa right now? I was there with friends in August and it was great in Arkadia at Ibiza. If I go there at beginning or end of December, what will I find? I guess it is not like in summertime, but will I find something interesting? Any winter club? Any good place to pick up and know nice girls?

I do not speak Russian, just 10-20 words and I want to go there alone this time. Thanks for any advice.

Explorer69
12-16-09, 07:59
Hey, sorry for the slow reply. My internet was dodgy, then I lost my apartment and now I'm traveling in France for a bit.

What I can tell you about Odessa in the wintertime. Is that it sucks. This winter has been the best autumn in three years because it stayed warm into December, however now that the cold has set it, its back to usual. As someone else, said, the streets are bare. Of both tourists and girls. The attitude changes immensely with the cold weather as well, and not for the better. The girls who might have stopped and talked to you in summer will not in winter. All the Arkadiya clubs are closed and their wintertime counterparts tend to be filled with mafia & new Russians. Kiev is much better for wintertime entertainment. The girls in Odessa hardly ever speak english and without Russian, you'll either need a translator or need to get lucky. Money talks, but not as much as it does in Kiev. The Odessa girls have been spoiled by foreign businessmen, marriage agency propects, and new Russians.

I highly recommend against it in the winter, but if you bother to come to Odessa, I recommend either the Tavria in the Afina shopping center or Puzata Hata in Europa shopping center where people tend to have lunch more in winter or McDonalds. The three decent clubs during winter are Yo, Vechernaya Odessa (Vecherka) or Praetoria, or the two Turkish bars, Arena (previously Turkwaz) or Reina (previously Laila); Vis-a-vis is a lounge.

Drop me a PM with your phone# and we can hang.

-RulerKI completely agree with this. I have also been in Odessa in winter and I had a good time, but that was because of established contacts. If you don't have that and you are on your own, Odessa has not much to offer in the winter. However, with the right contacts you can have a very good time.

It is new to me that there are so many Russians around in winter time? Are they business men living or staying there or just visiting? No tourists I guess? I heard some rumours that Russians were moving in on businesses in Odessa, including the strip clubs?

Anyway, the girls have some different attitudes towards the Russians: the Russians have money and some girls are Russian friendly. However, many girls don't like the Russians, partly because they don't like the Russians' attitude towards women.)

Rulerk
12-17-09, 13:18
Yep, definitely. If you already have it, then you can use it. Same as always.

When I say Russians, I'm not necessarily talking about Russians from Russia, although there are many of those like you say coming for business and illegitimate business. I don't really differentiate between Russians and Ukrainians. I'm more saying Russian speakers.

As far as attitudes towards Russians. I would disagree and say that 90+% prefer Russians over foreigners particularly because of the way they treat them (and also because of the huge language barrier in most girls). I've discovered that treating a girl well in Odessa is a sure fire way to get her to not respect you and to ditch you for someone "stronger. "

Kevin


I completely agree with this. I have also been in Odessa in winter and I had a good time, but that was because of established contacts. If you don't have that and you are on your own, Odessa has not much to offer in the winter. However, with the right contacts you can have a very good time.

It is new to me that there are so many Russians around in winter time? Are they business men living or staying there or just visiting? No tourists I guess? I heard some rumours that Russians were moving in on businesses in Odessa, including the strip clubs?

Anyway, the girls have some different attitudes towards the Russians: the Russians have money and some girls are Russian friendly. However, many girls don't like the Russians, partly because they don't like the Russians' attitude towards women.)

Green Lord
12-26-09, 22:33
Yepp. Hello, everybody! Yes, I haven't been here for a long time. Just was busy with my vacation and as I promised there is my Report about it.

So, Odessa is really boring during Winter time. Very dirty streets full of water, no Christmas light and very poor Tree on the Deribasovskaya street. It seems nobody going to celebrate Christmas and New Year but I know they do celebrate this holidays. So, what's up?.

Anyway, I enjoyed a lot to meet my girls from dating agency. Despite that they were greedy for presents they were cute and sexy. No English as always but ready to be taken. I had a few date at "Steakhouse" but couldn't find my the only one. Something doesn't work. I think that girls just looking fr "Sugar Daddy" but no for Partnership.

Eventually, I got my booked date with a "Sweet Sarah" from http://odessa. Escort24h.com

Well, well. I'm not disappointed! Sarah is a good escort, from different points of view. She is very nice. Not much tall, 1, 60 but her stiletto hills help her to show a pleasant tall figure. She is slim with a beautiful skin (she reminds me many Lithuanian girls but she is Ukrainian). She speaks a good English. For sure she can lead a long date, in any case. Her body is perfect, small and proportionated. Her breast is not perfect but real, nice to see and to touch. She doesn't provide DFK and it is a Week Point of her.

She always look at you in the eyes (her ones are blues), with a gorgeous face (it looks like she likes what she does). Her Blow-job (covered) is really well done, she sucks, uses tongue, hands (in the good way) and provides adult sex-toys and may other adult staff. Oh.

Weak Point: no anal rimming, but the way she uses the tongue, the hands, better say her fingers, and balls-vibrator trust me, makes you forget about the miss AR.

Sex is enthusiastic, and she knows how to move. All the positions are available, and the way I fucked her in dogie style, while with an hand she was massaging my balls, put me into great pleasure. Good Point: a sexy massage between one shot and another.

I requested Rope play and Sarah was great with schoolgirl, very skillful and careful with various sensual spanking actions. Giving and receiving. We had agreed switching at the start and whilst this added to the cost it was well worth it. Sarah was easily able to take a hand spanking from me on her strong backside. Sex was unhurried I am sure, Sarah could turn her hand or mouth to anything requested!

Simply, everything is true and this is rare. I was amazed at this very young woman for this cocktail of freshness, good mood, openness, maturity (not just sexual). In general, I don't like to meet that young women, but in view of her presentation, I made an exception.

The only problem with this quality of meeting is: one suspects that the next one with another girl has a high chance of being not as good! So this is a good opportunity to step back and slow down, keeping inside oneself the imprint of a successful meeting. If in the future you will not read me anymore is because I found "my escort". But I want to be clear with all of you: we are only a job for her, so don't waste time with falling in love with her. No-one can have her.

PS: Nevertheless, services are at high level.

I'm at my home already buy maybe be back on February 14th. If somebody still there I'll be happy to share experience.

Regards

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Green Lord
12-27-09, 21:45
Hi there! Just was busy with my vacation and as I promised there is my Report about it.

So, Odessa is really boring during Winter time. Very dirty streets full of water, no Christmas light and very poor Tree on the Deribasovskaya street. It seems nobody going to celebrate Christmas and New Year but I know they do celebrate this holidays. So, what's up?.

Anyway, I enjoyed a lot to meet my girls from dating agency. Despite that they were greedy for presents they were cute and sexy. No English as always but ready to be taken. I had a few date at "Steakhouse" but couldn't find my the only one. Something doesn't work. I think that girls just looking fr "Sugar Daddy" but no for Partnership.

Eventually, I got my booked date with a "Sweet Sarah" from http://odessa. Escort24h.com

Well, well. I'm not disappointed! Sarah is a good escort, from different points of view. She is very nice. Not much tall, 1, 60 but her stiletto hills help her to show a pleasant tall figure. She is slim with a beautiful skin (she reminds me many Lithuanian girls but she is Ukrainian). She speaks a good English. For sure she can lead a long date, in any case. Her body is perfect, small and proportionated. Her breast is not perfect but real, nice to see and to touch. She doesn't provide DFK and it is a Week Point of her.

She always look at you in the eyes (her ones are blues), with a gorgeous face (it looks like she likes what she does). Her Blow-job (covered) is really well done, she sucks, uses tongue, hands (in the good way) and provides adult sex-toys and may other adult staff. Oh.

Weak Point: no anal rimming, but the way she uses the tongue, the hands, better say her fingers, and balls-vibrator trust me, makes you forget about the miss AR.

Sex is enthusiastic, and she knows how to move. All the positions are available, and the way I fucked her in dogie style, while with an hand she was massaging my balls, put me into great pleasure. Good Point: a sexy massage between one shot and another.

I requested Rope play and Sarah was great with schoolgirl, very skillful and careful with various sensual spanking actions. Giving and receiving. We had agreed switching at the start and whilst this added to the cost it was well worth it. Sarah was easily able to take a hand spanking from me on her strong backside. Sex was unhurried I am sure, Sarah could turn her hand or mouth to anything requested!

Simply, everything is true and this is rare. I was amazed at this very young woman for this cocktail of freshness, good mood, openness, maturity (not just sexual). In general, I don't like to meet that young women, but in view of her presentation, I made an exception.

The only problem with this quality of meeting is: one suspects that the next one with another girl has a high chance of being not as good! So this is a good opportunity to step back and slow down, keeping inside oneself the imprint of a successful meeting. If in the future you will not read me anymore is because I found "my escort". But I want to be clear with all of you: we are only a job for her, so don't waste time with falling in love with her. No-one can have her.

PS: Nevertheless, services are at high level.

I'm at my home already buy maybe be back on February 14th. If somebody still there I'll be happy to share experience.

Regards.

Gergiev
12-31-09, 01:05
My dearest Lord Ga-Ga,

Always a pleasure to hear from you, old boy.

But you do seem to be rather flogging this gal's attributes somewhat, eh?

Ever heard of the phrase, "A Light Hand on the Tiller"?

Sometimes less really is more.

And now, let us move on to the more disagreeable part of our correspondence...





Eventually, I got my booked date with a "Sweet Sarah" from http://odessa. Escort24h.com


This being, as already pointed out, the same lady you "encountered" in Istanbul last month.

http://ros.ewebsite.com

Full report here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.in...&postcount=3639





(she reminds me many Lithuanian girls but she is Ukrainian).


Well, that's all very well but last time you told us she was Scandinavian!

For the sake of brevity, let's just agree she gets around.





I requested Rope play.
.
I may even be able to offer you some assistance in this matter myself at some mutually agreed date and time, particularly the part where it is placed around your neck and fastened tight :)




Sarah was easily able to take a hand spanking from me on her strong backside.
.
Tally-Ho!




If in the future you will not read me anymore is because I found "my escort".

No-one can have her.

.
Loud and clear, old boy.

Indeed you are nothing less than the Svengali of this Ukrainian/Scandinavian operation.

Render unto Caesar, etc...


Gergiev.

Atlantico 70
01-17-10, 20:48
Odessa in the winter? I don't have reference because I don't remember being ther in summe, so.

I'm trying to contact girls from Mamba, WTF 95% of profiles report only Russian language no english, anyway no reply I started focusing on the pink profiles, standard prices seems to be 450-500 grivna per hour but very hard to get a reply even from pro, even posting messages translated with google translator, WTF. Do they whant money or not?

Only few replied and you know? All they asked for phone recharge before starting any deal! Are out there so many stupid men that rechrge their phone before closing any deal, just after first contact in mamba? If they try this game for sure it means that yes it pay back anyway at the end one reply, in english, and I arranged meeting two hours later at the standard tariff.

I decide to meet at the pub before, just to check if the good was like advertised on mamba she came and. I was not so brave-rude to send her back home, not because unfuckble but cause totally different from profile in the room she was nothing special, but you understand I needed it.

I asked to show me what is this famous miniet Russian style and her BBBJ was just normal.

At the end I was happy to pass my money to a 21yo independent girl at least not to a bastard local pimple because I forget to tell that many of the pink profile in mamba are fakes and men reply to posted phone numbers At the end I realized that may be was better to use all time spent in mamba going outside and enjoying the city even if temperature close to zero.

Mistake of a beginner

Ciao

CallSign Papa
01-18-10, 15:11
It's going to be difficult to meet girls on Mamba from Odessa if you don't speak any Russian.

For some reason, girls in Odessa are a lot more disdainful of what they see as sex tourists visiting their city. My first trip to Odessa, I was lucky in that I was there for work and therefore when I spoke to girls in clubs, their initial suspicion died down and we were able to have fun.

I would say that girls in Odessa (once you've built a rapport) are, in general, a lot more fun than girls in Kiev (although I guess it depends if they're living in Odessa or there on holiday).

I met a 25 year old from Khmelnitsky, she was on holiday with her sister (who after the first night we met, she was more than happy to ditch), and whilst she was a little crazy in the head, she was plenty decent in the sack, and only costed the price of a few meals and cocktails here and there.

Second time I visited and dabbled with a little P4P, and you were right to meet the girl first in a bar, definitely makes it easier to send the ones who use different pictures back to their mamylkas.

There's a steakhouse nearly opposite the shopping centre on the main strip, I picked up a rather lovely 24 year old from Rostov-on-Don there, although sadly I had to leave the next morning and we never got to bump uglies.

Clement Mic
01-23-10, 14:01
Is it easy to make a girl change her university from her town to Odessa?

She got her study, and I am not that bad to make her stop it.

But I also don't want to rent something in her town, because if we break up, it will be too far from Odessa (she lives in Snizhne).

What would you recommend me to do?

Explorer69
01-24-10, 01:59
Ok, you can tell me I am crazy, I will say Yes!

Ok, I just met a girl in the internet

And we have talked and talked even fell in love

I was planning to come there in February

We never even have met physically, but I want to rent an apartment there!

So we can live together

Yes I know, its crazy

But apartment is way cheaper than hotel, and we have kitchen!

I want to rent about 300usd a month, what you think about that?

And Can I just go in Odessa and find a rent

Also should she asks and do all the things to get the rent, beside that she is still student

Because I know that since I'm foreigner, they will try to charge me more.

I also have found websites to find a rent online

And if with this girl, it doesn't work anymore

I got mad connections with girls in Odessa!

What you think?

I don't speak Russian at all hahaUSD 300 for an apartment in Odessa for one month! Forget it!

For at best 2 weeks, try: http://www.odessaapts.com/ and make them an offer!

They have a huge selection of apartments and they are VERY reliable, you can trust them completely!

The advantage of Odessa is that it is much smaller, most apartments are in the centre, you can easily walk to most attractions even in winter! And it is not as cold as in Kiev. Apartments are also cheaper than in Kiev.

Bez Bezarra
01-24-10, 03:26
Is it easy to make a girl change, and I am not that bad to make her stop it.

I don't want to rent in her town, because she lives in Snizhnit.

What would you recommend me to do?



Yo shizzle ma nizzle.

All da finiss bee-otches gots day kribs up in da Shiznit.

You bess be on the DL wen you in dat hood, homey.

Atlantico 70
01-24-10, 15:51
I don't know in Kiev, but now here in odessa is.20 and both my brains are frozen, WTF.

Ciao

Cruiser D
01-24-10, 22:15
-16 in Kyiv today but surprisingly sunny.

Doctor_Skank
01-24-10, 22:33
-16 in Kyiv today but surprisingly sunny.-25 in St.Petersburg.

Jojosun
01-25-10, 19:26
Please stop please stop!

My keyboard is already freezing.

So ok, do you think with a freebie girl I can have a budget of 600-800 euros?

Knowing that I have a friend who will find me an apartment of 30 euros

And what are the restaurant prices?

Thank you!Get yourself a copy of Lonely Planet ,travel guide for Ukraine.

You will have most of the questions on costs for food restaurants etc answered.

Jojosun
01-26-10, 14:32
Get yourself a copy of Lonely Planet ,travel guide for Ukraine.

You will have most of the questions on costs for food restaurants etc answered.Look up the web Site for Lonely Planet, Ukraine.

Clement Mic
02-26-10, 20:12
how big is Odessa?

I got 3 girls over there

And I want to play with those three girls without they see that Iam cheating etc
Possible?

Doctor_Skank
02-27-10, 10:08
how big is Odessa?

I got 3 girls over there

And I want to play with those three girls without they see that Iam cheating etc
Possible?Odessa is rather spread out as a city, but all the dating and nightlife action tends to concentrate in the center around Deribasovskaya street, probably simply because of pure convenience for all involved. It's a pedestrian "walking street" lined with cafes etc. in case you aren't familiar.

If you avoid dating on Deribasovskaya, yes, you can have 20 girlfriends.

If you date in Deribasovskaya locales or in any of the direct cross streets sooner or later you will have a situation at Zara Pizza, Kompot, the Steakhouse, Vis-a-Vis, Afina or any of the half-dozen sushi places in and around there, the 3 Top Sandwichs, Mario's etc. The world gets small in a hurry in Odessa.

In the winter there aren't so many nightclubs either, so be careful if your girls are club-goers. That said, if your girl is a regular club-goer, that's probably a bad sign anyway...

If you are dating 3 girls there you will probably end up on Deribasovskaya. Chances are you won't get busted, but with time and the number of girls the odds start working against you. Then again, should you really care?

Irish Lad once told me in a bit of infinite wisdom:

"Once you start caring, you've lost."

There is a lot of truth in that in our game.

Bez Bezarra
02-27-10, 13:43
I got 3 girls over there



Just remember, your 3 girls have each got a different guy every week.

Clement Mic
02-27-10, 13:52
Thank you for your answer!

Holly ***,

I have 2 real GF, and other not serious girls.

Obviously, I want to taste both pussies)))

Oh sorry, not just taste)

But, I really don't want any of them to know, and one of them hook me up with all the good apartments as apparently she knows some about it.

I haven't even figured out how I will play with them.

I am going to a concert in Ukraine too. And I work for the artists

So should I tell them, oh I have to take care of some organization for the concert? LOL

One of these 2 girls, looks very good, but too much breast.

But the other one is a real tiger! You can not resist to that kind of girl!))))

But she loves clubbing, why is it bad? I would love your opinion)

I knew it is bad for some reasons, but please give me yours!

I wonder if I should tell the first girl, oh let's stay friends, so she still hook me up with the apartments, and I find other pussies))

Suggestions?)) (my ex got real mad at me because I started using *(* as Russian do. And broke up with me LOL)

Clement Mic
02-27-10, 13:55
Just remember, your 3 girls have each got a different guy every week.How do you know that?

They are real GF, not found on dating websites, etc.

I don't think at all they cheat on me...only reverse.

One of them was 7 years with her ex!!!! and never loved (What is that?)

Raffzahn
02-28-10, 00:15
One of these 2 girls, looks very good, but too much breast.Impossible, at least to my impression. I'd love to see a pic.

Clement Mic
02-28-10, 00:16
Ouch I have 3 official girls over there.

The thing is I really don't know any place in Odessa, therefore of course they will bring me to the good places.

Should I tell them I don't want Deribasovskaya, and if they ask why? LOL

Cruiser D
02-28-10, 03:46
You date girls seperately? What a huge waste of time that is. Don't you know how many hot girls there are in Ukraine? How do you plan on getting to all of them if you date them one at a time? Geez.

Clement Mic
02-28-10, 06:03
You date girls seperately? What a huge waste of time that is. Don't you know how many hot girls there are in Ukraine? How do you plan on getting to all of them if you date them one at a time? Geez.What do you mean?

What do you recommend?

I don't pay anything, and good sex

Girls on Flirt, you pay, even if they are many many

If you date real girl, of course you get less, but the pussy is wet as ***

Reiner Otto
02-28-10, 11:10
Ouch I have 3 official girls over there.

The thing is I really don't know any place in Odessa, therefore of course they will bring me to the good places.

Should I tell them I don't want Deribasovskaya, and if they ask why? LOL

Simply go to another city, like my Nikolaev, and stay there. 3h by bus from Odessa.
You can argue, you feel safer in Nikolaev, because of some acquaintances (foreigners).
Girls will come over, in case they are really interested in you.
Otherwise: Also a few other opportunities in my city :-)
Prices fo appartments, food etc. lower than in Odessa.

Doctor_Skank
02-28-10, 12:51
But, I really don't want any of them to know, and one of them hook me up with all the good apartments as apparently she knows some about it.

I haven't even figured out how I will play with them.

One of these 2 girls, looks very good, but too much breast.

But the other one is a real tiger! You can not resist to that kind of girl!))))

But she loves clubbing, why is it bad? I would love your opinion)

I wonder if I should tell the first girl, oh let's stay friends, so she still hook me up with the apartments, and I find other pussies))

Suggestions?)) (my ex got real mad at me because I started using *(* as Russian do. And broke up with me LOL)Girls who are club-goers will usually have they're own tusovka, meaning their own group of friends they hang out with every weekend at bars and clubs. Meaning if you think she is just your faithful girlfriend, you are being naive.

Sure it is possible that your girl is faithful, most girls in Odessa (or anywhere in Russia/Ukraine) lead extremely monotonous lives and don't get nearly as much sex as we assume they do. Still, some of the more enterprising boring ones have no problems having a couple of guys parallely providing them with entertainment. A candid conversation with the ladies will reveal this to you.

And if she's clubbing every weekend, she's getting clubbed now and then too... )

Besides, if you are introduced to her friends, they will be her eyes and ears when you are out clubbing with your other girl.

As I said before though, you shouldn't really care that much. Things will happen the way they happen and you must roll with the punches. Thinking too much will kill your mojo.

As for the apartment girl, telling her you just want to be friends will probably make her want to fuck you more. Girls are highly possessive and competitive.

What does this mean "*(*"?

Clement Mic
02-28-10, 13:03
Simply go to another city, like my Nikolaev, and stay there. 3h by bus from Odessa.

You can argue, you feel safer in Nikolaev, because of some acquaintances (foreigners).

Girls will come over, in case they are really interested in you.

Otherwise: Also a few other opportunities in my city.

Prices fo appartments, food etc. Lower than in Odessa.Thanks for the advice!

But what if I told them I never ever went in Ukraine?

But right, I can tell her I have heard from acquaintances that Nikolaev is safer or something like that.

Or is there another thing particular which would make me want to stay in Nikolaev?

Clement Mic
02-28-10, 13:07
Girls who are club-goers will usually have they're own tusovka, meaning their own group of friends they hang out with every weekend at bars and clubs. Meaning if you think she is just your faithful girlfriend, you are being naive.

Sure it is possible that your girl is faithful, most girls in Odessa (or anywhere in Russia/Ukraine) lead extremely monotonous lives and don't get nearly as much sex as we assume they do. Still, some of the more enterprising boring ones have no problems having a couple of guys parallely providing them with entertainment. A candid conversation with the ladies will reveal this to you.

And if she's clubbing every weekend, she's getting clubbed now and then too.)

Besides, if you are introduced to her friends, they will be her eyes and ears when you are out clubbing with your other girl.

As I said before though, you shouldn't really care that much. Things will happen the way they happen and you must roll with the punches. Thinking too much will kill your mojo.

As for the apartment girl, telling her you just want to be friends will probably make her want to fuck you more. Girls are highly possessive and competitive.

What does this mean "*(*"?Thanks, I will try to know more about her.

But she seems serious, from the words she told me.

And don't worry, I am not scared!

It is a lot of fun, I can not wait)

I meant that Russian use) and we use.

I don't know how, but my ex realized that and got very mad.

Clement Mic
02-28-10, 14:53
Simply go to another city, like my Nikolaev, and stay there. 3h by bus from Odessa.

You can argue, you feel safer in Nikolaev, because of some acquaintances (foreigners).

Girls will come over, in case they are really interested in you.

Otherwise: Also a few other opportunities in my city.

Prices fo appartments, food etc. Lower than in Odessa.And also about Nikolaev, I saw some apartments, and yes they are very cheap!

But when I start trying to date in Nikolaev, there is almost no woman there!

Do you have other cities like that with cheap rentals?

Reiner Otto
03-01-10, 09:24
And also about Nikolaev, I saw some apartments, and yes they are very cheap!

But when I start trying to date in Nikolaev, there is almost no woman there!

Do you have other cities like that with cheap rentals?

No. I am staying very often in Nikolaev, about 50% of the year.
Almost no woman there ??????
Where have you looked ?
Many people in UA say, that the most beautiful women of UA are from Nikolaev/Cherson. Of course, the "top of the crop" leaves to Odessa or Kiev because of more $, but always growing something fresh :-)

Clement Mic
03-01-10, 09:44
No. I am staying very often in Nikolaev, about 50% of the year.
Almost no woman there?

Where have you looked?

Many people in UA say, that the most beautiful women of UA are from Nikolaev / Cherson. Of course, the "top of the crop" leaves to Odessa or Kiev because of more $, but always growing something fresh :-)Dude, what you are saying sounds really interesting!

I would like to keep in touch with you for some advices.

Do you have an email or something?

Thanks

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Clement Mic
03-01-10, 13:10
Also,

Do we have the same situation in Nikolaev?

I mean, if I play with many girls, will they discover it?

Clement Mic
03-04-10, 14:21
I now have many girls in Nikolaev

That I will spend some days with.

But I have heard that this city is very small, is it true?

So I will most likely have a scene with those girls over there?

Reiner Otto
03-05-10, 12:55
Also,

Do we have the same situation in Nikolaev?

I mean, if I play with many girls, will they discover it?

Most likely YES.

Nikolaev is about 500.000 people; however, for some strange reason the flow of info among the girls is very "High Tech" :-)

I am in Nikolaev right now, until 11-March; you can contact me on PM.

But be warned: The girls here are really really tricky to get the best from you: Your $$$$.

I met one American last year, who put it into a few very good words:

"The people here are very busy trying to fuck each other. The boys the girls physically, the girls the boys literally" . I liked that !!!!!!!

Blaked
03-12-10, 16:58
Does anyone know any links to info about the Body-Art festival that's held in Odessa the first week of May? Odessa Passaj had lots of pictures once upon a time, but alas, they are no more.

Captain Fire
03-22-10, 11:05
Thank you for your answer!

Holly ***,

I have 2 real GF, and other not serious girls.

Obviously, I want to taste both pussies)))

Oh sorry, not just taste)

But, I really don't want any of them to know, and one of them hook me up with all the good apartments as apparently she knows some about it.

I haven't even figured out how I will play with them.

I am going to a concert in Ukraine too. And I work for the artists

So should I tell them, oh I have to take care of some organization for the concert? LOL

One of these 2 girls, looks very good, but too much breast.

But the other one is a real tiger! You can not resist to that kind of girl!))))

But she loves clubbing, why is it bad? I would love your opinion)

I knew it is bad for some reasons, but please give me yours!

I wonder if I should tell the first girl, oh let's stay friends, so she still hook me up with the apartments, and I find other pussies))

Suggestions?)) (my ex got real mad at me because I started using *(* as Russian do. And broke up with me LOL)


Any girl under 30, there is no such thing as too much breast

Lett Huskelig
04-29-10, 13:59
Hi,

I wonder wich of the clubs in Odessa is best for picking up Девки in Odessa?

Are there a lot of p4p or is all hidden?

Explorer69
04-30-10, 00:43
Hi,

I wonder wich of the clubs in Odessa is best for picking up Девки in Odessa?

Are there a lot of p4p or is all hidden?Read post from the last 3-4 years, it is all there!

Lett Huskelig
05-02-10, 12:54
Thanks explorer

I browsed the forum, but it all seemed a bit hit and miss.

I search the net and found a few pages, does anyone in here got any experience with those sites.

http://odessa-x.com/
http://pups.com.ua/

And a site called putana, but I cant find the url right now.

I wonder how the quality is, how much you need to pay and if the pictures are real...

Thanks again

Explorer69
05-04-10, 00:46
Thanks explorer

I browsed the forum, but it all seemed a bit hit and miss.

I search the net and found a few pages, does anyone in here got any experience with those sites.

http://odessa-x.com/
http://pups.com.ua/

And a site called putana, but I cant find the url right now.

I wonder how the quality is, how much you need to pay and if the pictures are real...

Thanks againI have personally no experience with these websites, any information about them for Odessa would be interesting!

Your statement that Odessa seems to be a "hit and miss" is exactly what it is!! It is all there, but rather hidden as has been said many times. For mongering Odessa is not a very good place, you can be lucky or it can be a disaster. I think that these opinions have been expressed repeatedly in the forum.

Xaftas
05-23-10, 16:04
Hey mate, I am going to Odessa for a few months in August and I though to check whats up. I followed the link in the previous post and I found the url you were looking for:

http://www.putana.od.ua/

Himself
06-02-10, 21:07
Here is a link to an interesting (and scarring) video about working girls in Odessa (and Kiev)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL-Y-W59BFo

It is mentioned that Odessa is going to be the Bangkok of Europe with regards to sex tourism… I think it already is….
It is also mentioned that there are 6,000 prostitutes in Odessa…. This is without all the part-timers and students on Mamba, and the girls on this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hzZAnxIfQ&feature=related

I wonder want the number of semi-pros really are. If you are outside McDonald or the Opera around 18-19 in the evening you will see tons of foreigners meeting with freebees or semi-pros, and if you are in the famous and posh café Fanconi a little later, you will again see another batch of girls with their foreigner friends…

But to be serious… it is sad to see how the 2nd biggest country in Europe is a complete disaster, with children living on the streets and minors being prostitutes.

As an Ukrainian (girl)friend told me.. The economic crises did not impact ordinary people in Ukraine much as it cannot be much worse than it already is
This is not a post to moralize…. Unfortunate the worse condition a country is in the better opportunities for mongering and in combination with the many stunning looking women in Ukraine and free attitude to sex this makes Odessa to Europe’s Bangkok (almost)

PS: a note about the fees paid to the girls… note that one of the street girls claims that she earns 200-400 USD/week. This is what the girls in RIverplace etc. asks for a few hours….

Rulerk
06-04-10, 10:44
I have searched for information about the Odessa Body Art Festival for years. To the best of my knowledge, it hasn't been held since 2006(7?)

RulerK


Does anyone know any links to info about the Body-Art festival that's held in Odessa the first week of May? Odessa Passaj had lots of pictures once upon a time, but alas, they are no more.

AColonizer
06-04-10, 20:49
Yes, I agree about the social background in Ukraine and I am very sad too. I know one of those children who started prostitution at 13 years old when she worked in my town at 19 years old. I tried to help her but she loves her pimp (not a normal man, not a normal life)!

But if there is a large-sized problem in Ukraine, there is also a middle-size problem in Western countries too. Because too many males are interested in sadic pervertions in Western country too. Therefore no surprise if prostitution is widespreading in the world, because there is no convenience for most people: females want money only, males want sex only. The final question is: does love exist? The real life says: "No, it doesn't exist".


Here is a link to an interesting (and scarring) video about working girls in Odessa (and Kiev)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL-Y-W59BFo

It is mentioned that Odessa is going to be the Bangkok of Europe with regards to sex tourism… I think it already is….
It is also mentioned that there are 6,000 prostitutes in Odessa…. This is without all the part-timers and students on Mamba, and the girls on this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hzZAnxIfQ&feature=related

I wonder want the number of semi-pros really are. If you are outside McDonald or the Opera around 18-19 in the evening you will see tons of foreigners meeting with freebees or semi-pros, and if you are in the famous and posh café Fanconi a little later, you will again see another batch of girls with their foreigner friends…

But to be serious… it is sad to see how the 2nd biggest country in Europe is a complete disaster, with children living on the streets and minors being prostitutes.

As an Ukrainian (girl)friend told me.. The economic crises did not impact ordinary people in Ukraine much as it cannot be much worse than it already is
This is not a post to moralize…. Unfortunate the worse condition a country is in the better opportunities for mongering and in combination with the many stunning looking women in Ukraine and free attitude to sex this makes Odessa to Europe’s Bangkok (almost)

PS: a note about the fees paid to the girls… note that one of the street girls claims that she earns 200-400 USD/week. This is what the girls in RIverplace etc. asks for a few hours….

AColonizer
06-04-10, 21:20
Now I see that video: nothing scarring, just the usual hypocritical information. I know that situation in person, I have suffered for that situation, but the reality is what I have already written several times: too many young girls prefer to be prostitutes for easy money instead to live a normal life with a humble work; too many men have sex as their main purpose in life; or, in other words, this is the typical human system based on falsehood and money.


Here is a link to an interesting (and scarring) video about working girls in Odessa (and Kiev)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL-Y-W59BFo

It is mentioned that Odessa is going to be the Bangkok of Europe with regards to sex tourism… I think it already is….
It is also mentioned that there are 6,000 prostitutes in Odessa…. This is without all the part-timers and students on Mamba, and the girls on this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hzZAnxIfQ&feature=related

I wonder want the number of semi-pros really are. If you are outside McDonald or the Opera around 18-19 in the evening you will see tons of foreigners meeting with freebees or semi-pros, and if you are in the famous and posh café Fanconi a little later, you will again see another batch of girls with their foreigner friends…

But to be serious… it is sad to see how the 2nd biggest country in Europe is a complete disaster, with children living on the streets and minors being prostitutes.

As an Ukrainian (girl)friend told me.. The economic crises did not impact ordinary people in Ukraine much as it cannot be much worse than it already is
This is not a post to moralize…. Unfortunate the worse condition a country is in the better opportunities for mongering and in combination with the many stunning looking women in Ukraine and free attitude to sex this makes Odessa to Europe’s Bangkok (almost)

PS: a note about the fees paid to the girls… note that one of the street girls claims that she earns 200-400 USD/week. This is what the girls in RIverplace etc. asks for a few hours….

Loso69
06-21-10, 23:12
When I visited Odessa (2006; see report), I was unable to find any hookers in Odessa. Are the streets of Odessa now littered with (6000) hookers? Or is it business as usual - drink sluts in the discos, girls looking for sponsors and a "hidden" P4P scene that a casual visitor without any Russian skills will never uncover?

Loso

Rulerk
06-22-10, 08:40
when i arrived in odessa in 2006, it took a grand total of 3 days before i was being approached by hookers as i walked down deribasovskaya. it turns out that those are the very same girls i still see seeking customers today. i cannot fathom the fact that you couldn't find any.

even today, the streets of odessa are not "littered" with prostitutes. on any given night, no more than 15 girls work deribasovskaya, a few more than previously. most of them, as it has been for the last 50+ years, still operate i in, "hooker alley, " near the port, just outside a particular little produkti. every taxi driver in the city knows where it is. there are also a few other places rep001tered around the city where they congregate, but nothing like the port.

simultaneously, there are quite a few more girls looking for sponsors these days and the price of sponsorship has increased despite the competition. however, as you mentioned, a bit of russian will get you a long way in uncovering those.

unfortunately, i don't know much more in the way of details than that because i don't believe in paying for sex directly and i appreciate the challenge of finding the freebies. and the list is growing.

rulerk


when i visited odessa (2006; see report), i was unable to find any hookers in odessa. are the streets of odessa now littered with (6000) hookers? or is it business as usual - drink sluts in the discos, girls looking for sponsors and a "hidden" p4p scene that a casual visitor without any russian skills will never uncover?

loso

Rulerk
06-22-10, 16:45
I almost totally agree with that. The problem is only that when there is too much breast, there also tends to be too much girl.

And if they are too big, they can be dangly and nasty, even if the girl is young.

But I loves me my boxom beauties!


Captain Fire is correct: how can there be too much breast? IMPOSSIBLE! Send us a picture and we will confirm this! :)

Reiner Otto
06-22-10, 22:09
When I visited Odessa (2006; see report), I was unable to find any hookers in Odessa. Are the streets of Odessa now littered with (6000) hookers? Or is it business as usual - drink sluts in the discos, girls looking for sponsors and a "hidden" P4P scene that a casual visitor without any Russian skills will never uncover?

Loso

During summertime, you will find some pros in Arkadia, in disco Itaka. Best deals about 4 or 5 in the morning ....

Loso69
06-23-10, 00:04
when i arrived in odessa in 2006, it took a grand total of 3 days before i was being approached by hookers as i walked down deribasovskaya. it turns out that those are the very same girls i still see seeking customers today. i cannot fathom the fact that you couldn't find any.

this is a quote from my original report (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=493122#post493122): in 9 days in odessa, i was unable to meet a single attractive working girl by myself.


even today, the streets of odessa are not "littered" with prostitutes. on any given night, no more than 15 girls work deribasovskaya, a few more than previously. most of them, as it has been for the last 50+ years, still operate i in, "hooker alley, " near the port, just outside a particular little produkti. every taxi driver in the city knows where it is. there are also a few other places rep001tered around the city where they congregate, but nothing like the port.

i did meet a few pros along deribasovskaya and in the discos. they were either ugly as hell, the wrong side of 30 or strictly into russians.

i never made it to the port.


simultaneously, there are quite a few more girls looking for sponsors these days and the price of sponsorship has increased despite the competition.

i've never sponsored anyone but myself. i never will.


unfortunately, i don't know much more in the way of details than that because i don't believe in paying for sex directly and i appreciate the challenge of finding the freebies.

i'm exactly the opposite. i prefer the simplicity and instant gratification of p4p.

thanks for the replies, but never again will i make the mistake of visiting a town without a real p4p scene. and that rules out odessa (and chisinau). i'll start reading posts about central asia...

loso

Farrider
07-05-10, 10:36
A little G2 for mongerers in or coming to Odessa. I'll defer to previous reports in that the P4P scene here takes some sleuthing to uncover either for streets, MP's or girls in the clubs. Casual chats get only so far - these gals seem to enjoy playing the game, they are stand off-ish, looking for an age range or looking for a sponsor - the common denominator is $ however.

I've spent the last week trolling around Arkadia spending time in Ibitza and Itaka clubs. I am with family and GF so while my head is on a swivel, I am not in the P4P hunt. The scene picks up after 12:00AM with the women to men ratio is at least 1:1 if not better. From my eye there are numerous single, hot Ukrainian women working both clubs, several that appear to be working in pairs and several young women with their older "sponsors."

Again, not declaring an joy here just giving my observations.

Happy hunting.

Fijiman
07-12-10, 15:06
A little G2 for mongerers in or coming to Odessa. I'll defer to previous reports in that the P4P scene here takes some sleuthing to uncover either for streets, MP's or girls in the clubs. Casual chats get only so far - these gals seem to enjoy playing the game, they are stand off-ish, looking for an age range or looking for a sponsor - the common denominator is $ however.

I've spent the last week trolling around Arkadia spending time in Ibitza and Itaka clubs. I am with family and GF so while my head is on a swivel, I am not in the P4P hunt. The scene picks up after 12:00AM with the women to men ratio is at least 1:1 if not better. From my eye there are numerous single, hot Ukrainian women working both clubs, several that appear to be working in pairs and several young women with their older "sponsors."

Again, not declaring an joy here just giving my observations.

Happy hunting.

I was also just in Odessa, and was at Ibitza the evenings of July 5th and 6th.
Maybe we saw each other. Where you there those evenings?

I was there with my gf and friends. My perspective is that Odessa is where pretty Ukrainian girls go to have fun, and not where they go to provide p4p. There was certainly a lot of eye candy on the beach and in the clubs (even on the Mon/Tues/Wed that we were there). But I didn't see guy girl "mismatches" happening (ie a clear p4p or semi-pro hookup). Most of those pairings that seemed like they were a mismatch involved an a ukrainian guy, rather than a foreigner.

Farrider
07-18-10, 03:24
I was also just in Odessa, and was at Ibitza the evenings of July 5th and 6th.

Maybe we saw each other. Where you there those evenings?

I was there with my gf and friends. My perspective is that Odessa is where pretty Ukrainian girls go to have fun, and not where they go to provide p4p. There was certainly a lot of eye candy on the beach and in the clubs (even on the Mon/Tues/Wed that we were there). But I didn't see guy girl "mismatches" happening (ie a clear p4p or semi-pro hookup). Most of those pairings that seemed like they were a mismatch involved an a ukrainian guy, rather than a foreigner.Hey Fijiman, I was there on the 3rd and again on the 6th so maybe we crossed paths. Undoubtedly the "champanski crowd" was in full force and Ibiza is the place in Odessa for the young and beautiful to be seen at. On the nights I was there, I observed single women at the main pool bars and hanging in the corners of the side bar, making eye contact, being approached then departing. An apparent hook up. This was more apparent on the 3rd. This didn't seem to include the reservation crowd at all, which I assume you were, who were there to socialize and party. The mismatches were probably upper class Ukrainian or Russians, now that you mention it, however I did see one or two who appeared to be Turk or Arab with young talent. Again, just observations.

Cheers

Jannn
07-19-10, 15:52
Dear Mongers,

Llast year I visited Yalta and hated there. It was a boring City, dirty Hotels,poor Night-Life and the wg's were very Low-Profile. Next week i'll visit Odessa and want to know if Odessa is better than Yalta or has a better Clubs or WG Bars than Yalta?

Thanks a lot

Ostheer
08-06-10, 13:13
Hi

I was there at the end of July (24th to be precise) at a reserved table with a 19 year old I was effectively sponsoring. So that would be one odd mismatched that could be observed there. Such pleasure though.

And secondly, she identified for me, as it was humourous to watch a couple of young ladies that were touting for business amongst the drunk boys as they were leaving around 03 in the morning.

There certainly is plenty of eye candy and pretty people there. though I think it is always important to distinguish between the innate beauty of youth as for sure there were all young girls and those who were genuinely good 8s, strong 9s and the stellar 10s. Nearly walked into the pool oggling one of the latter!

Music though was, at least on that Saturday to about 04 unremittingly bad Euro-trash mixed with Russian pop. Wouldn't exactly say the local crowd were lapping it up either. Maybe this wouldn't have mattered if I was there to tap but on a date it was dull.

Green Lord
08-14-10, 19:53
Hi there!

By chance,I'm in Odessa this week,voilà!

I met beautiful babe two days before at "Vis-a vis" club and recommend to everybody try her ***:) Just go there,she is every night waiting for sponsors.
She says that works on the Deribasovskaya as well.

Here is a a pics that she sent me by email.

Jojosun
08-18-10, 14:02
Hi there!

By chance,I'm in Odessa this week,voilà!

I met beautiful babe two days before at "Vis-a vis" club and recommend to everybody try her ***:) Just go there,she is every night waiting for sponsors.
She says that works on the Deribasovskaya as well.

Here is a a pics that she sent me by email.Did you use her services and if so how much was it?

Irish Lad
08-19-10, 03:33
My perspective is that Odessa is where pretty Ukrainian girls go to have fun, and not where they go to provide p4p. There was certainly a lot of eye candy on the beach and in the clubs (even on the Mon/Tues/Wed that we were there). But I didn't see guy girl "mismatches" happening (ie a clear p4p or semi-pro hookup). Most of those pairings that seemed like they were a mismatch involved an a ukrainian guy, rather than a foreigner.

The strange thing is that both you and Farrider are correct about the scene in Odessa. It's a tough market in Odessa for freebies, however, P4P is everywhere and available if you do some exploring.

My advice to someone would be to chat up a few girls you fancy in a club while mentioning that you're willing to sponsor the right girl. You should get many takers.

Although they come here to party, money gets tight and they all look for some supplemental income. Many Belarussians come with only enough money for a few days and find someone to help them through the rest of the holiday. Odessa is a top hot spot and many girls want to be here partying.

Otherwise go on to Mamba offering "fun and sun" in Odessa and you will also get results. Target cities close to Odessa away from the sea. Don't forget to mention that your apartment is airconditioned))) $100 per day should be enough.

Ash1001
08-21-10, 14:58
.. My advice to someone would be to chat up a few girls you fancy in a club while mentioning that you're willing to sponsor the right girl. You should get many takers ..



Good advice, though you may find that the moment you try speaking to a girl she'll turn away saying "No! No English!". And that's if you (try to) speak Russian. I think being rude to tourists is some kind of competitive sport among these sukas. The irony is they would love nothing more than to be sponsored, but hatred of foreigners comes before anything else.

Honestly, there are so many great towns and cities to meet girls in this nation of 50m people that I can't understand why anyone, let alone a foreigner, would get excited about a hole like Odessa.

Papa Americano
08-24-10, 17:26
It is necessary to take precautions anywhere. I am thinking of coming to Odessa in September to attend some socials. Has anyone used this website to organize airport transfers, apartments and introductions: www.letsmarry.me. It looks like it is a small marriage agency. I called Oxana and she seemed very knowledgeable.

Pluto2
08-26-10, 17:42
http://www.sauna.odessa.ua/

This seems to be a mix of going to the sauna with your friends and family and some with help on the premises.

Can anyone help out with this?

Pluto2
08-26-10, 18:16
I have a friend visiting Odessa in a couple of months.

1. Any security issues in Odessa, ie kidnap, mugging, scams?

2. I think I have the list of clubs where the semi-pros hang out, are there any high quality fixed locations (privates) that are safe to visit?

3. Any recommendation on escorts to the hotel, any recommended agencies?

4. Any suggestions on good restaurants for business dinners with colleagues and customers?

Reiner Otto
08-26-10, 22:58
It is necessary to take precautions anywhere. I am thinking of coming to Odessa in September to attend some socials. Has anyone used this website to organize airport transfers, apartments and introductions: www.letsmarry.me. It looks like it is a small marriage agency. I called Oxana and she seemed very knowledgeable.



Do not use any agency for introductions. 99% is scam.
Reasonable appartments should be available in September starting at 50$.
Anyway, because it is out of high season, best is to book a hotel in advance, and then look at the available appartments when you are in Odessa.
Taxi from airport to Nikolaev starting @ 80$. So you should get it to the city for not more than 30$ (so expensive because of taxi mafia)

Greetings from Nikolaev.

Leave a note here on the forum, when you are there, in case, you like to share a beer.

Reiner Otto
08-26-10, 23:00
2. I think I have the list of clubs where the semi-pros hang out, are there any high quality fixed locations (privates) that are safe to visit?

4. Any suggestions on good restaurants for business dinners with colleagues and customers?

The list would be interesting ! Could you publish, please ?

Restaurant: "Steak House" on Derebasovskaya

DoctorOral
08-27-10, 08:00
Derebasovskaya is a sure place to go. Either go to steak house, Yokohama or Compott. Or walk around the corner and down Gavanna street (about a minute) there is a good lokal restaurant to your right side of the next corner (Lanzheronivs'ka).

Also, a good place is Pulcinella on Lanzheronivs'ka. Good italian cuisine and reasonably upmarket seating and people there

Compot next to Steakhouse is for lokal cuisine. Rather a cafe then a restaurant, but good all day long

On Katerynynska, Fanconi 1872 serves good sushi "with a view" and dancable music. Good crowd all day!

For further reference

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13774800/Odesa-In-Your-Pocket


The list would be interesting ! Could you publish, please ?

Restaurant: "Steak House" on Derebasovskaya

Pluto2
08-27-10, 17:23
Otto,

I'm thinking of the list of night clubs with the gold diggers looking for a "sponsor" and the Irish Pub. Apparently, there are some nasty street walkers near the port and a couple of other places that the cab drivers know how to find. Video looked like skanks with hepatitis and TB waiting to happen.

I'm guessing that there is no shortage of girls in need of some money for college, I hear the same line in the US. These are the semi pros who will only do older guys (25+) they find attractive that have a couple hundred local currency for the night or weekend. There are plenty of US hotels I have stayed at for conventions that had US semipros sitting in the bar hoping to score a variation on feed em and fuck em with a bonus payment in the morning.

I had a friend in CA mid fifties that had a real college girl that called him on every break to spend a weekend with him, he helped her with $400 for school on the way out the door.

Pluto2
08-30-10, 22:04
http://www.slavic-lady.com

Strip club in Odessa

http://www.x-club.odessa.ua/

Pluto2
08-31-10, 14:48
http://eng.escort-massage.com.ua

Are there other massage places in Odessa that offer happy endings?

Kurenda
08-31-10, 15:31
http://www.slavic-lady.com
Fake as always.
Great majority of images are "bikini photos" taken from various "marriage websites" like Army of Brides, 1st Russian Bride and crap like that.
Most probably you can get girl from there but something different from pictures will appear at your door.

Pluto2
08-31-10, 17:47
http://odessa.intimdosugua.com

I'll keep posting them, anyone with information on them feel free to have at it.

Pluto2
09-01-10, 15:24
http://www.dosug.cz

Independents in Odessa and other cities, feel free to comment on them.

Insomniaque
09-14-10, 19:47
Everything is in the title.

Okay, I might be exaggerating a little; but I went to Odessa last Tuesday, the Ibiza was closed, not even 10 people in the Itaka and the 3rd club we checked (don't remember the name), the girl/boy ratio was 2:1 and there was no high-end at all.
This is an info I did not find on these otherwise amazing pages: there is nothing to do in Arkadia after August. The action is definitely somewhere else.

Member #4178
09-17-10, 22:00
Hi

During my trip to Ukraine I have met one of the forum member at Odessa at 7/2007.

We used to date some ladies and have a good time.

If you are here just PM to me.

The following photo should bring the memory back.

Irish Lad
09-20-10, 04:08
Everything is in the title.

Okay, I might be exaggerating a little; but I went to Odessa last Tuesday, the Ibiza was closed, not even 10 people in the Itaka and the 3rd club we checked (don't remember the name), the girl/boy ratio was 2:1 and there was no high-end at all.
This is an info I did not find on these otherwise amazing pages: there is nothing to do in Arkadia after August. The action is definitely somewhere else.Itaka closes and Palladium opens. Both owned by the same people. Ibiza closes and I think Yo-Yo opens. Again, owned by the same people. Arkadia is purely a Summer time venue, so all the actions reverts to the city centre.

Monday night is a great night in Captain Morgans. (Cocktails at 50% discount draws in a lot of girls) with dancers up on the bar/stage doing their stuff.

As for "Odessa sucks", my experience is that after the tourists have gone, the success rate soars in Odessa.

Iconob
01-20-11, 19:13
Last week I was in odessa for 3 days for business and beside working hard. I had great nights. In the evening I went for a drink in the irisch pub and soon I met a girl svetlana 24y, blond, thin end elegant, after some drinks we went to my appartment and after I payed 100 grivna she stayed the night and had the time of our life. In the morning at 8 am it was not realy the moment of my life because you can imagine we didn t sleep so much.

The next day during my work I received a phonecall from her to ask if we could meet this evening again which ofcourse I accepted. Around 9 pm we met at my appartment and went to eat in an ukraine restaurant. At table she asked me if I would like I spent the night with her again which I ofcourse agreed but I said that to be honest I felt a little bad to pay her, not for the money but I said because I had real feelings for her. And what I didn t expect is that she said that I didn t need to pay because she was also interested in me not in my money. So after we went to the supermarket to buy something to drink we went back to the appartment and had a great night again.

Because I had to catch my plane in the afternoon we went for breakfast togheter and then she went with me to the airport to say goodbye.

Ofcourse I only spent time with one girl but to be honest I liked it this way and for people who say odessa sucks in the winter I ask myself what they expect to get in winter.

Or maybe I had a lucky shot.

Are there some people who can give me some phonenumbers from other girls because begin februar I will go again and want to meet now someone else

Tacoyaki
01-24-11, 11:35
Iconob, I think that you were pretty lucky. I also visited Odessa in winter (probably in 2004/2005) and visited the Irish Pub. Odessa was pretty dull. I didn't find any action.

Wiper68
01-29-11, 20:14
Is it illegal to date a 16 why girl in Ukraine?

BionicMan
01-29-11, 22:29
Is it illegal to date a 16 why girl in Ukraine?Depends also which country you are from and what you mean for dating.

Casparza
02-02-11, 12:43
Hi guys,

Do you know any massage parlor / spa or escort / outcall service which are performing tantra (tantric) massage in Odess?

This is Indian based massage style and very common in Europe. Also I saw some places exist in Kiev too. But I could not find any in Odessa.

Thanks

Casparza
02-02-11, 14:56
http://eng.escort-massage.com.ua

Are there other massage places in Odessa that offer happy endings? Did you try this place?

Does it "incall or outcall" service?

Iconob
02-05-11, 23:17
Monday leave to odessa again for 3 days, lets hope I would have some good results. Will keep you posted. Is there somebody who has some phone numbers of girls in case I don t find any myself

Kngdf5
02-06-11, 06:06
is it illegal to date a 16 why girl in ukraine?'[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of a minor' according to the criminal law of ukraine, chapter iii, article 117, part 3.

[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of a minor, aged under eighteen (18).

the punishment is imprisonment for term from 5 to 15 years.

Daniel10
03-03-11, 07:35
Hello, I'm planning to travel to Odessa in a few weeks for business and was wondering if anyone could give me some advices on where to find girls.

Thank you!

Reiner Otto
03-03-11, 08:11
Hello, I'm planning to travel to Odessa in a few weeks for business and was wondering if anyone could give me some advices on where to find girls.

Thank you! . Is a good place, usually. Or the Irish Pub.

Send me a PM, when you know the definite date. May be, I come over from Nikolaev for a day.

Bbbazil
03-05-11, 09:00
. Is a good place, usually. Or the Irish Pub.

Send me a PM, when you know the definite date. May be, I come over from Nikolaev for a day. I am there for a week.

Anyone fancy a beer?

BionicMan
03-05-11, 18:25
Is it illegal to date a 16 why girl in Ukraine?Why you want to put yourself in troubles? Isn't an 18 yo girl not young enough enough for your tastes? And perfectly legal.

Latexian2
03-06-11, 05:52
'[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of a minor' according to the criminal law of ukraine, chapter iii, article 117, part 3.

[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of a minor, aged under eighteen (18).

the punishment is imprisonment for term from 5 to 15 years. i'm pretty sure this means forcible [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and not statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). the age of consent in ukraine, like most of europe and russia, is 16.

that said there might be much stiffer penalties for prostitution for those aged under 18, but for freebies it's legal as far as i can tell. hell even in many places in the us (including my state) 16 is legal.

Kngdf5
03-06-11, 06:21
[quote=latexian2; 1130504]i'm pretty sure this means forcible [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and not statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). the age of consent in ukraine, like most of europe and russia, is 16.

looks like it is 16, but is vague, which means there is some risk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#ukraine

Climaxnow
03-06-11, 18:11
Is it illegal to date a 16 why girl in Ukraine?You just asking, makes me cringe.

Sorbonne
03-07-11, 03:31
Is it illegal to date a 16 why girl in Ukraine?The last guy who was talking about this before his trip to Ukraine, JK, disappeared after his trip in December. Where is he now?

Casparza
03-10-11, 15:16
Just wish to leave a short remark from my visit to Odessa. I have used services of Odessa Sex Guide (they Advertised in Classified Ads).3 times visited saloons of exotic (the call it like this) massaging, fall in love with tour girl (escort). Soon we will marry. Plenty nice ladies, really low prices. Overall I enjoyed stay in Odessa. Will come back in 3 weeks to pick up my beauty. So wonderful place, pleasant people and good reliable service.

Recommend them!

See ya guys! Terruzzi, please tell me know "low prices" about this place. Cause I wonder,

The site massage prices are 90euro / 1hour, it is not low price. This is same price with most Europe countries.

Ukraine should be more cheaper. Am I right?

Rgds.

Uke Boy
03-10-11, 20:02
Just wish to leave a short remark from my visit to Odessa. !Ignore this post and the poster.

It is just Fort10 using another nick to try and promote his overpriced garbage services.

Fort10
03-11-11, 00:33
Terruzzi, please tell me know "low prices" about this place. Cause I wonder,

The site massage prices are 90euro / 1hour, it is not low price. This is same price with most Europe countries.

Ukraine should be more cheaper. Am I right?

RgdsYes you are right and not right. Yes, if will go to find a working girl on the street, cheap and dirty it will be lower than in some european countries but sibstantially. No, we are not dealing with prostitution as it`s illegal here (like almost everywhere). But if you need to have a good service and really relax while staying in Odessa. Where you should not worry about hotels, restaurants, you can be escorted to any night club to be safe, massage, saunas. The car can be rented for you for any amount of time. Now we are implementing the tour programs apart from mentioned services will include city tours, plenty of other fun staff (shooting, karting, paint-ball, day&night excursions).

Hope everything is clear!

Cheers!

Uke Boy
03-11-11, 18:07
Our real visitor Teruzzi before leaving our office left this comments therefore the same IP address. I am not playing these kinds of games.Fort10, you are a game playing pimp. How stupid do you think ISG members are? You insult everyone's intelligence with this post.

You would have been better off just quietly posting in the classified section and not trying to falsely post in the Odessa section using this Teruzzi nick. That this was also admittedly posted via your IP address tells us all we need to know.

You are just another Odessa business trying to lie, cheat and steal his way to more business from naive suckers who might believe your come on.

Come to think of it, you do fit the way most Russians and Ukrainians think about Odessa and its notoriety as a city of humorists and con-men. Unfortunately you perfectly fit the description of the latter. Ostap Bender lives.

Casparza
03-15-11, 16:39
Yes you are right and not right. Yes, if will go to find a working girl on the street, cheap and dirty it will be lower than in some european countries but sibstantially. No, we are not dealing with prostitution as it`s illegal here (like almost everywhere). But if you need to have a good service and really relax while staying in Odessa. Where you should not worry about hotels, restaurants, you can be escorted to any night club to be safe, massage, saunas. The car can be rented for you for any amount of time. Now we are implementing the tour programs apart from mentioned services will include city tours, plenty of other fun staff (shooting, karting, paint-ball, day&night excursions).

Hope everything is clear!

Cheers! Actually not,

I don't agree. Cause I'm not talking about street prices.

I searched some Odessa massage places and I saw it is same price with Dnepro.

It means ypur prices are 3x higher then usual. I don't know why.

This huge gap can not explain with the service only sorry.

I paid 350 UAH for erotic massage in Denpro last year and the places, service and the girls was very very good.

Now I can see same prices are exist in Odessa in most of saloons.

So I wonder, what will you offer for 90euro / 1000 UAH for 1h erotic massage?

Look for yourself.

http://spasalon.od.ua/services.php

Another one.

http://www.sauna.odessa.ua/sauna.php?type=medra

Another one.

http://www.sauna.odessa.ua/sauna.php?type=chaojan

Fort10
03-15-11, 21:59
Actually not,

I don't agree. Cause I'm not talking about street prices.

I searched some Odessa massage places and I saw it is same price with Dnepro.

It means ypur prices are 3x higher then usual. I don't know why.

This huge gap can not explain with the service only sorry.

I paid 350 UAH for erotic massage in Denpro last year and the places, service and the girls was very very good.

Now I can see same prices are exist in Odessa in most of saloons.

So I wonder, what will you offer for 90euro / 1000 UAH for 1h erotic massage?

Look for yourself.

http://spasalon.od.ua/services.php

Another one.

http://www.sauna.odessa.ua/sauna.php?type=medra

Another one.

http://www.sauna.odessa.ua/sauna.php?type=chaojanFirst of all, the prices that were last year are far from what we have now. I am even not saying about currency exchange rate, the prices for everything raised up. Second. Most of the sites you have mentioned are not supported already for a long time and the prices therefore are old. You won`t get response from webmaster. And third. Our partners are focusing on VIP Massage but have a Budget also with lower prices and lower services (let`s say another saloons, girls, conditions) So everyone chooses whatever he wants. If you don`t like doesn`t necessarily mean nobody likes.

Vogel09
03-18-11, 14:12
Dear all,

Ok ok, I have a weakness for Ukrainian / Russian girls. Planning to go there in April / May (Odessa). Searched the forum but couldn't really find whether that is a good time to go. Know it is probably not beach weather, but is there enough to do, clubs? And enough attractive ladies (pay) around?

Thanks for your advice!

Best,

Vogel

Reiner Otto
03-19-11, 08:52
Know it is probably not beach weather, but is there enough to do, clubs? And enough attractive ladies (pay) around?As soon, as the weather is good enough to sit outside in a cafe, your chances improove drastically. So May will be better.

Let me know by PM, when you are going. As a "neighbour" (140km from Odessa) , may be, I will come over for an evening.

Sprichst Du Deutsch?

Casparza
03-25-11, 14:51
First of all, the prices that were last year are far from what we have now. I am even not saying about currency exchange rate, the prices for everything raised up. Second. Most of the sites you have mentioned are not supported already for a long time and the prices therefore are old. You won`t get response from webmaster. And third. Our partners are focusing on VIP Massage but have a Budget also with lower prices and lower services (let`s say another saloons, girls, conditions) So everyone chooses whatever he wants. If you don`t like doesn`t necessarily mean nobody likes.Fort10, I don't agree.

Most of these saloons are working. I made contact wtih them.

All The prices are half of your prices.

I can believe your saloon service might be better, don't know.

But common x2, x3 price?

Will you pay double or triple cost for un-known massage only?

Rulerk
03-28-11, 07:10
I suppose I should just post this every 30 days or so to keep reminding people, but I am currently living in Odessa, and therefore available to hang out and go &1044; &1077; &1074; &1091; &1096; &1082; &1072;.chasing pretty much anytime.

I also run a tourist agency and introduction agency that can help with cheap accommodation, transportation, translation and anything else one might need in a foreign land where hardly anyone speaks english. [PM for details]

RulerK

Iconob
03-28-11, 22:23
I will leave next week for 4 days to odessa, is there any one who can give me some phonenumbers or contacts of some freebies. Only from the good ones.

Iconob
03-31-11, 19:52
Rulerk,

Don t you have some contacts for when I arrive in odessa or do you mean it is still the same girls which are active at the moment from who I find the contacts here on the internet

Rune J
04-02-11, 22:26
I will be in Odessa in the month change April / May and the first weekend of May.

I will also have a trip to Nikolaev the first weekdays in May.

Any good, recommended spots to find women for P4P (pro, semipro, students) in Odessa and Nikolaev.

Have tried to read many posts in here, but not to many that summarizes the results.

Found a few in Odessa, but they were old and Nikolaev were close to no results.

Anyone that has recommendations in Nikolaev and Odessa?

Michael Tours
04-08-11, 21:46
Hi, I will go to Odessa for the first time in June or July, and need information about a economic apartment to rent for 1-2 weeks and advise for where contact girls. Datingsites, escortsites, clubs and so. Are there good beaches. Thanks in advance, greeting Michael

Iconob
04-11-11, 13:42
last week i visited odessa and i met lena from who is spoken on this site. she is still very active and i must admit she is amazing in bed. she is even ready to have sex without condom. first i doubted because she is an hooker but she told me she just had a aids test and all was ok so i went for it completely. i spent 4 nights and 3 days with her.

this girl is really a fire cracker and she doesn t know the word no i guess because she really did everything what i wanted; anal, cum on her face in her ass in her pussy all over her body she even was ready to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on her in the bath.

i also was able to take picture of her naked and with some decoration. the only pitty thing is that she got some weight like some of you told here and her ass is getting really fat, i strongly believe in a couple of years she will be a fat lady and then her business will be killed i guess.

one way i found it sad because i feel this is really a great lady but she is to long a hooker to think like a normal lady. you strongly feel that the only thing she want is money money and money and the man who is giving her the most he got her and when she find one with more money she goes, really sad to be spoiled on this young age already.

i just need to find out now how to put the pictures on the site and then i will do it

Sean EZ
04-14-11, 11:37
Does anyone remember when Arcadia clubs open, Ibiza and Itaka is it May 1st or June 1st?

Sean EZ
04-15-11, 02:23
Great, thanks.

Reign2001
04-18-11, 07:25
I`m new here. Just found it recently as a very helpful hint for those coming first time. By word I`m Croatian eng. Working on german oil tanker so needed some relaxing. Yesterday has visited massage salon in Odessa with the help of Andrey. It was incredible. Wow. Recommend them. I know they offer also escorting and other fun stuff in Odessa. Next time will come with my Staff engineer.

Irish Lad
04-18-11, 18:20
last week i visited odessa and i met lena from who is spoken on this site. she is still very active and i must admit she is amazing in bed. she is even ready to have sex without condom. first i doubted because she is an hooker but she told me she just had a aids test and all was ok so i went for it completely. i spent 4 nights and 3 days with her.

this girl is really a fire cracker and she doesn t know the word no i guess because she really did everything what i wanted; anal, cum on her face in her ass in her pussy all over her body she even was ready to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on her in the bath.

i also was able to take picture of her naked and with some decoration. the only pitty thing is that she got some weight like some of you told here and her ass is getting really fat, i strongly believe in a couple of years she will be a fat lady and then her business will be killed i guess.

one way i found it sad because i feel this is really a great lady but she is to long a hooker to think like a normal lady. you strongly feel that the only thing she want is money money and money and the man who is giving her the most he got her and when she find one with more money she goes, really sad to be spoiled on this young age already.

i just need to find out now how to put the pictures on the site and then i will do itmy ella?

wow) and i thought she was an angel, except for dr skank and his friend dping her)

Iconob
04-18-11, 22:09
Why did you think she is an angel. I think she is one of the biggest hookers in odessa. Did your friend had dp with her or what

Iconob
04-18-11, 22:10
I have nice pictures of her but doesn t succeed to put them on the side.

Irish Lad
04-18-11, 22:12
Why did you think she is an angel. I think she is one of the biggest hookers in odessa. Did your friend had dp with her or whatIt was a joke) Yes, my friend DP'd her with another guy

Iconob
05-04-11, 00:19
For those who want the contact info of ella lena odessa just sent me a private message

Muddy7
05-07-11, 21:13
STRIP CLUBS IN ODESSA.

The Palladium in Odessa has strip shows on the first floor and a disco on the second floor.

http://hotel-palladium.com.ua/english/address/

X-Club (http://www.x-club.odessa.ua/english/) ,

Zazhigalka (http://russtriptease.ru/en/city/odessa/) ,

V Gostya you Skazki.

Reign2001
05-08-11, 16:53
Hey it`s Dragan again! I have lost contacts of Andrey from **************.

Andrey, I will come again to Odessa next week again with friend, therefore please reply me. Just your tel number or email address.

Thank you, my friend! Dragan (MS Rotterdam Express)

Haint69
05-17-11, 06:01
I am a black man from the US who wants to meet a girl from close to Odessa I have been communicating with for a while. Plus I want to get some hot escort action! I feel like I could get an honest opinion here about what my experience might be like. Can anyone give me any insight? I mean no disrespect to anyone, there is just not a lot out there about this subject.

Bigboys
06-02-11, 06:32
I am a black man from the US who wants to meet a girl from close to Odessa I have been communicating with for a while. Plus I want to get some hot escort action! I feel like I could get an honest opinion here about what my experience might be like. Can anyone give me any insight? I mean no disrespect to anyone, there is just not a lot out there about this subject.Odessa is cool. But there are many women there who just want a guy to take them out to restaurants & buy them gifts. They will tell you everything you want to hear until you try and make your move on them. Then they might tell you they just need a little more time because they just got out of a relationship. I met 5 women so far in Odessa. All but one would drag me to the malls & stores trying to get me to buy them what they wanted. I got fed up with most of them & told them to go home. There are the ones that are looking for a real relationship & true love and a husband. But when you go to Odessa & you are looking for sex you either have to pick the women who is a pro street women. If you are on the internet writing letters to a women that you want to meet & hope she just might be your wife one day, that is a whole other ball of wax to deal with. When meeting her you will not really know where you stand unless she gives the signs & it gets hot & heavy. It can be very confusing with some of these women. But the Odessa girls are as hot as it gets.

Mia Wallace
06-09-11, 13:08
Hi,

You still go to Odessa?

I hope to fly there in 48 hours, still waiting for my employer if I need to do a course yes or no.


Hi, I will go to Odessa for the first time in June or July, and need information about a economic apartment to rent for 1-2 weeks and advise for where contact girls. Datingsites, escortsites, clubs and so. Are there good beaches. Thanks in advance, greeting Michael

Iconob
06-15-11, 09:30
Because many of you always sent me private messages for her contact info I prefer to put it here. It is more easy for everybody

Email alena.golovchenko@gmail.com

This girl is ready for everything. As long that you pay and that you let her live like a rich girl.

She likes to have sex but becarefull because all she does is with purpose

Tickleme
06-27-11, 18:17
Just wanted to let you know that.

http://spasalon.od.ua/

Still working.

I was there twice. The first time they had 5 girls working. One of them was my type (slim body and could speak english).

The prices pretty much break down to this: One girl 300 UAH for one hour, Two girls 400 UAH for one hour and 600 UAH for 2 girls and one hour but you will have 2 happy endings.

It is a bit funny that they always seem to tell you 2 hours when they actually mean one hour but two handjobs.

The second time I was there they had only 2 girls. But one of them was really sexy (perfect body as like the pictures on their website).

She tried to finish me pretty early but after I told her that I like the handjob at the very last minute she massaged me almost for one hour before she started the handjob.

Iconob
07-15-11, 14:26
Because I keep on receiving private messages about asking her telephone number I will put it here on the site : +380992492660.

Wish you all good luck and keep us informed about your experiences

SViolet
07-24-11, 00:35
Hello, to all.

I will stay in Odessa the first 2 weeks of August and I think it would be nice to meet someone from this forum in this city.

Please, Pm me if interested.

JohnnyBraz
08-03-11, 09:16
Can anyone please give me information for apartment rentals in odessa. First time visit, but long time monger.

Thanks

AlphaStar
08-03-11, 18:59
Can anyone please give me information for apartment rentals in odessa. First time visit, but long time monger.

ThanksPlease send me a pm with your contact information and we can hang out and party it up!

AlphaStar
08-03-11, 19:01
Can you please send me a PM with your number. I can call you. Not sure how to send you a pm, so just responded to the post.


Hello, to all.

I will stay in Odessa the first 2 weeks of August and I think it would be nice to meet someone from this forum in this city.

Please, Pm me if interested.

AlphaStar
08-04-11, 01:55
Hello,

I will be in odessa for about a week. Open to hanging out and mongering about, email me at: [Email address deleted by Admin]

I will email you back.

Thanks

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AlphaStar
08-05-11, 13:23
Anyone around odessa? Please pm me!

I went to the massage parlor and got two girls, but no sex, just handjob.

Where to go for sex? LOL. BJ without condom also.

Himself
10-08-11, 09:27
Just came across this site http://www.cocaine.od.ua/. Looks interesting. If / once visited the report will follow. Maybe some of your fellows here knows this studio?

Sorbonne
10-12-11, 09:13
Just came across this site.

http://www.cocaine.od.ua/

Looks interesting. If / once visited the report will follow. Maybe some of your fellows here knows this studio?Looks interesting? Sounds interesting to me!

Misc123
11-19-11, 05:47
Hello,

I am new to this forum and will be visiting odesa this December end. Can anyone provide me with contact information of ladies they had good experiences with and good looking. You are welcome to PM me. I like my women to be busty a bit not on the skinny side.

Thank you for your help.

Miscgk

AColonizer
11-19-11, 13:27
Ah ah ah, another one who wants to meet top-models for free without reading at least two years of this forum. I am starting to think as a female: "but why are males so stupid?"


Hello,

I am new to this forum and will be visiting odesa this December end. Can anyone provide me with contact information of ladies they had good experiences with and good looking. You are welcome to PM me. I like my women to be busty a bit not on the skinny side.

Thank you for your help.

Miscgk

Prosal
11-19-11, 18:31
I am starting to think as a female: "but why are males so stupid?"That's a good start. Empathy can take you far. (wink)

Reiner Otto
11-19-11, 20:48
Hello,

I am new to this forum and will be visiting odesa this December end. Can anyone provide me with contact information of ladies they had good experiences with and good looking. You are welcome to PM me. I like my women to be busty a bit not on the skinny side.

Thank you for your help.

MiscgkHttp://hotel-palladium.com.ua/english/club-palladium

At least on Friday / Saturday evening in the disco you have a good chance to find, what you are looking for. Stand at the bar, and the girls will find you. In case, the pocket with your wallet has a big bulge.

Misc123
12-04-11, 04:21
Http://hotel-palladium.com.ua/english/club-palladium

At least on Friday / Saturday evening in the disco you have a good chance to find, what you are looking for. Stand at the bar, and the girls will find you. In case, the pocket with your wallet has a big bulge.Thank you Reiner very much for the info about Palladium. Prosal, Acolonizer thank you both too for critiquing me. It is good sometimes. I thought the Kiev forum was more up to date compared to odesa forum. But now I know I was wrong and have started reading all the tips on the odesa forum. I have been to Kiev and odesa last December and got some ladies from dosug website. So all pros and photos did not match the lady who arrived at the door. Lets see how well I fare this time around. If any of you have any ladies that you can recommend that will be great. I can pm you for contact info. Otherwise I will do my own dd and proceed.

Thank you all and I will report back upon my return.

Miscgk10

Misc123
12-29-11, 23:00
December last week of the year.

I got a girl each day from dosug. CZ worked pretty well except for 1 occasion but girl was decent so I did not send her back. Odesa this time of the year is filled with people but less western or Turkish tourists. One evening in the city park on deribasovskaya I came across what seemed like a mid eastern girl and surely she was from emirates. 20yr old, short, very pretty, got her back to my apt exotic pussy but gave GFE experience infact no condoms what so ever. Said she is a student in odesa. Charge 100$ per hour. So far my experience for quality of girls is better in Kiev than odesa. Odesa seem more conservative for whatever reason. Confirms other posts. But I think those who can devote more time will come with good results in odesa. Part 2 will follow next week.

CantGetEnough
03-23-12, 04:07
Hi all,

Does anyone know driver / tour guide in Odessa? Any help is appreciated.

Matt710
03-23-12, 08:24
Hi! I will be moving to either Odessa in about a week. March 30-April st. I work over the internet so location is not an issue for me. I lived in Russia for 18 months and have been to Odessa a few times. My first priority is to find a fairly modern apartment within a 5 minute walk to the main pedestrian street. Are you able to help me or give me some advise? It doesn't have to be a brand new apartment but should be not be old. It should be a one bedroom (preferred) or large studio. I plan to live in Odessa or at least somewhere in the Ukraine until at least the end of the summer, probably longer. Is it OK if I rent an apartment for just one month to start or or is it better if I take the apartment until the end of August straight away? I mean maybe it will be cheaper rent for a longer term. However, do you happen to know the notice period if I want to leave after 2 or three months? I think prices go up in the summer so if I can get an apartment now for less, and the price doesn't go up over the summer, maybe I should do that?

I'm a single guy 35, normal, above average / young looking and my main interest is meeting some lovely young women. I prefer the 18-25 age category and very slim. I'm looking for a relationship but in the meantime, I'm also looking to have some fun.

I would appreciate your input and any assistance that you could provide! Would be great to meet up there for some beers.

Matt

Reiner Otto
03-26-12, 13:42
I plan to live in Odessa or at least somewhere in the ukraine until at least the end of the summer, probably longer. Is it ok if I rent an apartment for just one month to start or or is it better if I take the apartment until the end of August straight away?

MattHi,

You should better take the opportunity for a long term rent in Odessa, in case you find something reasonable. Prices during July / August will definitely be higher.

Although it might be, that the landlord even will break any long term contract, when somebody is willing to pay more than you. So, pay attention.

Consider my city, as an alternative. Cheaper than Odessa, and famous for the most beautiful girls in UA. Or, think about Cherson, also a good alternative.

Although I have to admit, night life in Arkadia really is something special.

TXOutlw
03-30-12, 04:36
I was in Odessa and Kiev in Feb.

Going back to Odessa in late April for a couple weeks.

The girls are great.

I have no trouble finding apartments downtown.

After that I am headed to London and Venice for a few days.

Going to visit the Jaguar factory in Birmingham.

Anyone want to wingman a bit for some time.

Terry.

I am TXOutlw everywhere you look.

Kreko
03-31-12, 19:27
Hi Matt,

I'll be in Odessa from 5 to 8 of April. I'll be having pretty busy schedule, but I think I'd like to wing you in some really nice Odessa club. I'm basically the same as you. 35 yo looking younger and just wanting to have some fun. I'm from Spain, but I do speak Russian almost fluently.

PM me you phone or something and I'll give you a call once I'm there. May be even the same night that I arrive, Thursday the 5th I ll be able to go out. This trip is sort of a short vacation plus some business, so I need to take advantage of every day / night.

Cheers mate!