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Mike #4
06-03-03, 15:06
Originally posted by saint

There is also tons of information on http://www.*********.com/index1.html It takes some time to go through some of it and you have to invest some time researching but you can find some gems. It was through this page that I made email contact with one of the girl?s.

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He asks who I?m set up with already and I tell him ?Caprice?. His response was simply, ?BRILLIANT!!!? He told me about a site called Captain69 in the UK. (Our version of a private pay review site - $10 US /month). http://www.captain69.co.uk[url] I access the member?s area to read reviews. I find about 80 reviews of ?Caprice? but I come to the conclusion that I booked with the wrong ?Caprice?. Wow. The reviews of THIS Caprice were amazing. This one had been in all these pornos and almost every single guy posted of an incredible experience. DonPaolo assured me that this Caprice is amazing.

As you can imagine, the price was also sky high. 300 pounds per hour ($475 US). (http://www.caprice-escorts.co.uk/caprice.html ) I tell myself that I will only see one upscale escort and the rest I?ll hit more economical girls. I email and book an appointment with her.

You guys have to be really careful. There are several girls and agency with the world ?Caprice? in them. A very popular name for escorts and agencies I guess. I was getting mixed up with emails from that name.

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I had a date that night with Caprice. I think DP was as excited as I was. He told me a lot about her and I had high expectations going in. I think he was also a little nervous. He personally referred her and you all know that feeling when you talk a girl up to a buddy. You want him to have as good a experience as you had. Especially at Pounds300 an hour. That is a shit load of money. Actually it was 350 Pounds($560 US) for an outcall but she promised to not be a clock watcher and wasn?t.

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I arrived back at my hotel and showered in anticipation for Caprice. When she arrived I was floored. She really lives up to all the hype. She was really pretty and gave me the greatest deep kiss right when I answered the door. She had a little bag full of all this lingerie. She asked me what I liked and essentially told me anything was possible. Yep, you heard that right. I could do ANYTHING. I?m not into anal but if you are she is probably your girl. She talked about the pornos she has been in. After she said ?anything?, I inquired about CIM, swallow, etc. She said sure. Wow. Probably the single best session of my life. She lives up to her reputation and any hobbyist that gets to London should see her at least once. Yeah, the price is steep but a lot of the girls in London were charging 300 pounds per hour and I can?t see them being any better than her. Her pornos can be purchased at the the following link: [url]http://www.bgafd.co.uk/girls/v/v0002.shtml She used to go by the name of Jessica Freeman or maybe that?s her real name.[/i]Hi - I'm UK based and might be able to add some clarification about Caprice. Saint has confused two beautiful escorts here. The link he has posted to Caprice:
http://www.caprice-medias.co.uk/caprice/
is not to the Caprice he saw. This caprice is based in Leeds - though she does tour in London occasionally. I see her regularly in Leeds. She is beautiful and my favourite of all the escorts in the UK. She is cheaper than the Caprice who Saint met but does not provide all the same services. She has two websites and you can see both at: http://www.caprice-medias.co.uk/

I understand she is soon to start advertising other escorts in the Leeds area at: http://www.northern-elite.com/

I think that the Caprice who Saint saw was the Caprice on: http://www.caprice-escorts.co.uk/caprice.html

She looks delicious but I'm afraid that I haven't had the pleasure as yet. - I can't afford the £300GBP!!!

If you are planning a trip to the UK I can recommend you do some research first using the site Saint mentioned: http://www.*********.com

This has very useful reports on UK ladies. Some may be suspect reports but if you read between the lines you will certainly find some excellent ladies.

Others in London recommended:

Sarah (I've seen her twice) and

Charlie (on my wish list.)

Have fun

Mike

k__rat
06-17-03, 21:35
Just a bit of praise for the agency at london-oriental.com. This weekend I saw "Rosa" from this service at a flat near paddington (150GBP/hour). Service was uninspired to say the least, way below what others have reported on the ********* site. Rosa demanded payment up front, had her clock set five minutes fast and it went downhill from their. To Rosa's credit I handed her 160 and she gave me 10 change. Service was really lousy though, so avoid Rosa.

But here's the amazing part. I called the agency back the MINUTE I got back home (would have called from rosa's if I'd have had a handy with me). I told the owner what had happened and he agreed to rebate 50 pounds. Amazingly the next day an envelope with 50 quid shows up under my door. HOLY COW! I am bowled over - like this would EVER happen in the US. So I may try some of their other ladies.

Moral of the story? Avoid Rosa, but do check out the london-oriental agency. I'm still amazed that after a bad punt I *got money back*.

Now if only I could figure out how to score with the local women I won't have to resort to the pro's so much, but damn, british women are a tough nut to crack. So to speak.

BrendanGooch
06-18-03, 23:04
Gents,

I know that this has been mentioned time and time again on this board. BUT PLEASE AVOID THAT RIP OFF place called Girls Girls Girls in SOHO.

I have had three emails from guys in the last 2 weeks who have walked in their ended getting ripped off and leaving with an empty wallet.

Despite the warnings about this place on this forum. People seem to end up walking in there after being sweet talked by the skanky looking blonde outside.

JUST DONT GO IN THERE CURIOUSITY DOES KILL THE CAT

Merlin Magician
06-21-03, 23:46
HELLO!! What the fuck have I been telling youse guys about SOHO??

Stay the fuck out of all the clubs there and ABSOLUTELY DEAL WITH NO ONE IN THE STREET.

Walk-ups, OK, but only deal with the ladies inside them, not anyone hanging out in the foyers or outside the doorways.

Bono
06-23-03, 09:56
Originally posted by Merlin Magician
HELLO!! What the fuck have I been telling youse guys about SOHO??

Stay the fuck out of all the clubs there and ABSOLUTELY DEAL WITH NO ONE IN THE STREET.

Walk-ups, OK, but only deal with the ladies inside them, not anyone hanging out in the foyers or outside the doorways.
Very true.I am from Los Angeles and I visit London quite often .During one of my trips aobut three years ago some girls approached me in Soho and took me inside. Havng gone inside I was given a weird show and a bottle of champage. When I was leaving I was stuck witha bill for 500 pounds. IT was a complete rip off. Do not deal with girls waiting outside. Stay away from SOHO EXCEPT girls woking inside like Merlin says

BunnyHopper
07-03-03, 00:24
Hi Gents,

I live in UK. I was just browsing the London pages of the WSG to see how the travellers view London. (Usually i look at the Eastern Med countries).

I am really surprised at the number of people ending up in SOHO.

The place has been notorious for decades as the place to get ripped off. Avoid it like the plague !!!

I strongly agree with a previous posting in that I think the best source of detailed local action on all areas of the UK are the "*********" pages.

Personally, i think Massage Parlours and Private Apartments/Flat are the best.

You can usually find links to webpages for massage parlours - many of which have rotas and pictures posted of the girls that work there.

It is a nice thing to be able to look at the pictures of girl(s) you could be screwing on your PC, whilst being on the phone to the massage parlour at the same time - and then read a review of the girl - removes the "hit and miss" factor !!

Happy Hunting To You All !

Etaoin2003
07-05-03, 13:36
Originally posted by BunnyHopper
I am really surprised at the number of people ending up in SOHO.

The place has been notorious for decades as the place to get ripped off. Avoid it like the plague !!!No question, you can get ripped off ... the answer is to simply stay out of any of the girlie clubs. Bad news all the way around. And be very careful of anyone on the street offering sex services.

But there are tremendous bargains to be found in the walkups. Only a few blocks away toward Chinatown, just behind the Prince Charles cinema, are some real gems. I met a lovely Russian girl and one ¨Continental Model¨ from Greece who was gorgeous and ensconced in a very nice apartment. Look for open doors, with stairs and a small handwritten sign advertising ä model on the 1st-2nd floors. Typical 35 UKP for oral and sex. They have full price schedules including an array of services.

BrendanGooch
07-05-03, 22:58
Strangely enough this evening I had been for an indian meal in the brick lane area when could help noticing the most gorgeous looking indian girl selling herself.

My jaw almost dropped as she was a complete stunner. I am pretty sure it must have been a one time thing for her. Slim curved body, long black hair large brown eyes she had the complete works of a professional model.

You just dont get beauties like that selling themselves like that on Brick Lane.


Originally posted by Merlin Magician
One will have to remember a bit of history about the area of White Chapel, Brick Lane, Caisson, Bethnal Green. These are the very same streets on which the victims of Jack the Ripper plied their stock in trade.

That old ghetto which is now all Persian and Arab Muslim, has also been Italian, German, Russian, African, and Jamaican in history.

I know the Ten Bells Pub just by the site of his last known murder should be a great pick up spot wor W/G's.

I see lots of girls working the street in front of the Ten Bells on toward the Aldgate Underground Station.

Nothing has really changed since the 1880's. The girls are just as hard bitten and nasty now as then.

BrendanGooch
07-05-03, 23:02
If you really do want to go to a strip club.

Go to the SpearMint Rhino which is based somewhere on Regents street. I have heard that the women are stunners, drinks are expensive though but i hear its worth a one off visit..

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Originally posted by etaoin2003
No question, you can get ripped off ... the answer is to simply stay out of any of the girlie clubs. Bad news all the way around. And be very careful of anyone on the street offering sex services.

But there are tremendous bargains to be found in the walkups. Only a few blocks away toward Chinatown, just behind the Prince Charles cinema, are some real gems. I met a lovely Russian girl and one ¨Continental Model¨ from Greece who was gorgeous and ensconced in a very nice apartment. Look for open doors, with stairs and a small handwritten sign advertising ä model on the 1st-2nd floors. Typical 35 UKP for oral and sex. They have full price schedules including an array of services.

OwnaFord1994
07-08-03, 08:18
Rip-off clubs in soho: since everything don't change in UK for decades, here's how I had fun once for very little. A guy promised us GBP 10 for a drink and a show. So we went in. A few pretty ladies in underwear come to the table. We chatted but didn't let them order drinks - that's the rip-off part. If they insist, you ask for the price list first. That's at least GBP 50 and above for a drink for the ladies. Soon they went away. So we drank and refuse to go away until we see our show. One girl tried to hit a German tourist and she volunteered to do a strip show. The other show was that when the tourist saw the bill, he sounded like crying, cause he was entertaining a few guys on his company card. He couldn't bill his company card for that sort of money in a club, and he wouldn't pay for it himself. But actually if you've are hit with a large bill, you can negotiate for a smaller bill. Because nobody want a scene since the tourist kept coming in. There are strip clubs with lap dance imported from USA. But they tried to be classy and you risk being send out if you touch the dancers. In UK strip clubs without some niche won't work because there are escorts in all the price ranges, in all the places, and without legal consequences.

********* and captain69 are good to some extend. Common problems are bandwagon or false/inaccurate reviews. Since a lot of times are the tourist leading the tourist, some girls have a lot of nice reviews no matter how many years she's on the game! As I have said before, unlike USA, in UK it's worthwhile to explore a bit. It's OK to ask what service the girls provide on the phone, and since fantasy is very common in Europe, you can talk about that too. It's too risky in USA. You hand over the money only when you are happy with her looks. And you can turn her away without any problems or guilt. Grab your money and run are unheard of. What more do you want?

Holland Report
07-08-03, 17:51
Hi,

I live in Holland, but am English and travel over to London quite a bit. OF COURSE, the sex scene in England is ridiculously bad compared to Holland. Lots of money for very little. But there are some exceptions. First, like the fellow below said, AVOID SOHO, sex clubs, etc. English conmen / women are the worst in Europe. Instead, check out the cards in phone boxes around Bayswater / Queensway, for good value and no hassle. Westbourne Grove, at the bottom end of Queensway is also worth checking out. If you can get there, Streatham, south of the Thames is good. The streets off Streatham High Road towards the bottom end. But you have to know your way around. Personally, if I'm in the mood just to have my cock sucked I 'risk' the street under the railway line, behind Kings Cross. This street is NOTORIOUS for druggies, under-age girls, etc. But, that said, you can usually also get your cock sucked, proper cumming in mouth blowjob without condom from a low class street walker for less than fifty pounds. Worth the risk??? Your decision!

Hope this helps! Good luck!

Stout Dick
07-08-03, 20:20
Hi

I am visiting London - and will be staying close to Richmond-upon-thames. May be Richmond Hotel.
shall appreciate if someone Can give me contact numbers for sex in and around this area.

I am visiting first time! pls help

Bye

OwnaFord1994
07-09-03, 22:44
Stout: if you are not in the greater london area, best bet is looking at the local newspapers for agencies. Newspapers are at gas (petrol) stations, or small shops (news agents). Bookshops or supermarkets don't necessarily have local papers with adult classified. If you are shy to pick the right papers, try the at the corners, pick the yellow ones, or Dalton (spell?) daily, or Surrey Advertiser (very respectable one). You can try the london agencies mentioned in WSG/captain69 whether they serve Surrey towns, you are in Surrey I think. Agencies outside London normally serve several Surrey towns. Tell the agent what girls you want. Talk to the girl yourself and see if she would do your things, safe sex and fantasy is no problem, kiss maybe. If the girl doesn't match your specification, you can send her back and ask for a different one. If they are far out, try another agent.

The girls has no problem entering any hotels, just by being respectable, and no body will bother. Don't leave it too late in the night. Book for early evening is the best and usual time. Many part-time girls do one or two calls after work and go home. There are too many girls anyway so you don't get that much work all to yourself.

Holland: even thought things don't change much in UK, but I thought King Cross was cleaned up since some ten years ago, unless they go in cycles. SW is rare but since the slumps, public housing estates, are still all around within walking distance, so there's always drugs and prostitution. Since there are cameras all over the place, your best bet is to pick someone up at the bus station. I saw a hot young girl in hot pants, eyeball her for a while, and she rushed into my car and we drove off. While her mature friend was surprised what she was doing and wanted to stop her. She was very nervous, asked me to throw away the condom off the window afterward, etc. She's young but couldn't be under 16.

Holland Report
07-11-03, 19:47
You MIGHT be right about King's Cross. But every time I've been over to London at the weekend, I've headed to King's Cross and managed to find someone to suck my cock, without condom. There's that notorious street under the railway line, the streets behind the sex shops both to the East of KK and to the West, betweeen KK and Euston. Basically all the back streets. I don't think you need to worry too much about the cameras, so long as what's going on in front of them is just chit-chat. They're only after serious crime, mugging, etc. Goes without saying, find somewhere secluded for the action.

Hope this helps! Good luck!

Stout Dick
07-13-03, 18:28
Hi guys,

I visited London fully packed with the info from this site. I could manage to get some quick sex from the Soho models.
GBP 20 for 10 min straight sex. All along I was carefull to avoid the street walkers.

However on my way back some how I was enticed by a blonde into a stripshow for gbp5. I handed out GBP 20 and she took me inside and never gave me the balance -neither was a stripshw performed.
I demanded my gbp 20 back but was treated by a big guy who demanded GBP 295 for the girl I was talking to -saying she had given me company and that I have too pay.He was very rude and was demanding the money virtually by force.

I realised I am at wrong place and with my presence of mind could winover the situation and came out without paying any further.
This is a lesson - learnt hard way. Infact I was carrying about GBP 1000 at that time and could have easily lost it.

Thank God and thanks to Jackson and this WSG forum for sharing their experience which helped me to overcome the situation!!!

bye

SD

OwnaFord1994
07-14-03, 22:32
Stout, you're better off not reading WSG because of your self destruct tendency. It's wasting your time.

Gladiator
07-15-03, 22:31
Holland Report,

What's the going rate in KK for a BBBJ with CIM?

Do you need to rent a room too?

Are they English girls or inmigrants?

What's the best time to go?

Thanks in advance

Traveler Tom
07-16-03, 17:53
Gladiator

Your georgraphy is all f*cked up!

KK is in Cambodia

KC (Kings Cross) is in London

Good luck but they are a bit different in price

So Busy
07-17-03, 14:44
Hello all,

I will be visiting London (I'm from New York) 7/19-22 and would like to sample London's Asian ladies. Any tips as to where I can find Asian women in London for some great relaxation?

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

CityDude
07-18-03, 16:09
I cannot emphasize enough, to avoid any solicitation in SoHo; avoid Clubs - They are all rip-off places.

Incall and Outcall from indies are easiest and safest options.

Merlin Magician
07-19-03, 02:34
Hello Stout Dick,

What in the fuck have we been telling everybody about Soho?

Had you have heard me on ITN Radio last September, you would have heard my horror story of the same thing. Also I got into a huge diatribe with the Police Chief of the City of Westminster that the Bobbies in Soho are ALL on the take.

Fucking crooked coppers is why the ripoff joints keep operating with impunity in Soho.

Merlin Magician
07-19-03, 02:39
Sobusy,

Academy Girls in London has quite a few Asian and/or Oriental ladies. Look em up on punter net dot com.

Also, Les Girls has a couple of Asian ladies.

In the areas southeast of Berwick in Soho is Chinatown where there many walk-ups with Oriental ladies.

If you are loking for India type Asian ladies you might take a look around Brick Lane/White Chapel area by Aldgate.

Holland Report
07-19-03, 15:38
On the price at King's Cross, it was 50 for BBBJ and CIM when I was there last, some time ago. But see other posts as to whether the area has been cleaned up since. No room required. In fact, these are quite low-life street walkers. Don't take too much money or valuables with you, would be my advice. Find somewhere around there where there are no cameras. The girls should know!

Hope this helps!

HappyGardener
07-19-03, 18:44
Traveler from Chicago here that just wanted to ask a few questions. I didn't partake of anything but I thought about...(or at least the little head did!)


So last night I was in Soho walking around. Mindful of all the reports on here, I stayed away from the clip joints and the girls walking up to me. But here is a question for you: A woman walked up to me across from Madame JoJos and said that she knew places where they were offering 20 mintes for £20, 30 minutes for £30, and so on. oral, massage, Fs all with a condom. As usual, I figured this was too good to be true. Was it? Was it 20 minutes of time, but if I wanted sex I would have to pay a lot more? She promised a 16 year old Asain girl. More shite??

I also found one of those yellow shopper papers with the ads in back, but it was too late, and besides if BA ends there strike, I am going to Hong Kong tonight so I can get the real deal with an Asain girl. Figured I might as well save my money here and spend it HK.

Well, thanks for all the warnings, I might have been royally ripped off if you guys had not reporterd on Soho

Holland Report
07-19-03, 19:08
The sad truth is that ALMOST EVERYTHING IN LONDON IS A RIP-OFF. Seriously. The best thing you can do is book a flight to Holland for 15 pounds on Easyjet and ENJOY. But, failing that, my suggestion is, head up to Oxford St, Bond St or Tottenham Court Rd tube (underground) stations and take the central line to either Marble Arch or Queenwsway. At Marble Arch, exit and walk up Edgware Rd and check out the phone boxes for cards. For Queensway, exit and walk up Queensway for same. Takes about half an hour and worth the treck, believe me! My suggestion is take the extra two stops to Queensway. Generally the numbers starting in (0171) 229 or (0171) 727 are local and worth phoning.

Hope this helps!

Etaoin2003
07-19-03, 22:18
A woman walked up to me across from Madame JoJos and said that she knew places where they were offering 20 mintes for £20, 30 minutes for £30, and so on. oral, massage, Fs all with a condom. As usual, I figured this was too good to be true. Was it?Actually, those are walkup prices in that area. She still might have been trying to rip you off, though. There are girls on the streets in Soho who specialize in taking your money in advance, leading you on a wild goose chase, and then suddenly disappearing.

Avoid anything on the street. Just look for the "model upstairs" cards inside open doors.

Merlin Magician
07-20-03, 04:05
Happy Gardener,

Like we have been shouting here, DEAL WITH NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE IN THE STREET!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sure they know of these places. You can walk around and see them your own self with out their fuggin help. All they were doing was setting you up to take your money.

They are easy to trust as they are so damn glib. They will take you to an apartment and take the money and tell you to knock. Of course when you knock, the person there doesn't know a damn thing and your cash is trotting off toward the nearest dope dealer.

Rule of thumb: The more you want to trust them, don't!!

BrendanGooch
07-20-03, 11:09
For the person who asked for information for sex in the SURREY area....

Massage Parlour Raynes Park (near station)

020 8542 2793 (havent checked it out but heard some pleasant things about it).

Silk & Lace Escort Agency (£120 an hour) contact 01707 880044
link is www.silkandlace.demon.co.uk (Kingston-Upon-Thames AREA).

Check out the local papers under the section "Adult Services"

WhoreSeeker
07-20-03, 12:09
Dear All

First time I was in Soho I got suckered, that was before the days of the WSG, so I didn't have the great advice posted here. I was enticed by a girl standing outside a door way. She offered the world and out of curiosity I went down to her bar. I got real nervous when they asked me to buy the girl a drink. I asked for the menu and saw the ridiculous charges for drinks. At this point I slipped up by agreeing to sit with the girl in a cubicle. We had small talk for a few minutes and I popped the question, "how much for sex?" She said I had to go upstairs and another woman would do it for £100. I just sensed I was being taken for a ride and decided to get out. The woman behind the bar said I had to pay £200 for the girls company!! At this point there was a gorilla standing next to me telling me to pay the lady. I only had £20 and after some argument I gave them this and left. I was in 2 minds as to whether to give them my £20 or just walk out but I figured paying the £20 was preferable to finding out what had happened if I just pushed past the gorilla standing at the door. Since then I have heard many stories about how guys got stung in these places, or worse, they got roughed up. I was watching a documentary once about policing in Soho, a guy was complaining to some police outside a clip joint that had just ripped him off, the police pointed to a small sign outside the club with prices in small print on it and told him they had done nothing illegal. I think it is totally f*cked up the way this is allowed to go on.

I cannot re-iterate more what Merlin says. Only last week I was walking through Soho and a girl approached me and put her arm around mine and asked "do you wanna come with me for sex baby, it's real cheap". I also clocked the 2 black guys she was talking to just before talking to me, both of whom were now following behind. I told her I wasn't interested and she eventually gave up. A few years ago I agreed to go with a streetgirl in Soho and she took me to a rather posh looking address (I was expecting something seedier), she rang the bell and asked for money. I realised she was taking me for a sucker and walked off. She followed and got angry but i told her to f*ck off or I would get the police and that was the end of it.

Soho is still IMHO the cheapest and safest place to have sex in London. I know this has been said before but let me say it again, all you have to do is look for doorways with signs that say MODEL. Go up the stairs and there may be 2 or 3 flats. Knock on the door and an old lady will answer. She will take you into a bedroom, or waiting room if the girl is busy, the girl will come in and you can talk prices. If your not interested then you can just leave and the girl won't be annoyed. I haven't been using Soho for a while but I think prices are about £25 or higher for S+F and a £1 tip for the maid. I had some real stunners from flats in Soho, I also met some pigs. I found the sex was mechanical most of the time but there have been a few times when the girl went out of her way to please me. Don't expect anything near a GFE in Soho, what do you expect for £25! BTW if there is anyone standing outside the doorway or on the staircase then avoid even talking to these people, they are just low life hustlers.

I'm interested in finding out about good places to go for street walkers. Is there still an active scene in Commercial Street and Whitechapel? I would love to meet one that would do BBBJ and anal

Merlin Magician
07-20-03, 19:33
In reading *****seekers post, I was reminded and still laugh about a long ago post in this forum about a guy who went through the very same thing. Only he was savvy enough to buzz toward the front door and he managed to grab the absent receptionist's purse on the way out. He was 400 quid richer for the experience and he managed to get way ahead of the goons. Just a case of all the right pieces of the puzzle falling in place at the right time.

I still say the Soho coppers are on the take. I know of one street cop whose old lady drives a Jag Vanden Plas. Cops whose wifeys don't work also can't afford Jags. Get real.

My Secret Life
07-21-03, 20:51
i’ve paid for sex in six countries and tried a few of london’s red light districts, so i’d like to share my knowledge. i can’t exactly do this anywhere else – i used to have a friend who was into the same thing, and even he lamented, “do all your stories involve drugs or prostitutes?” (the answer was, well, yes, the interesting ones, anyway). here goes:

my fave hunting ground is kings cross. sometimes you find only police or god people, but usually there are some spiffing girls. the really young ones, 20 or younger, are best avoided ‘cos rumour has it they aren’t honest, and they don’t look it either. i’m not keen on knee tremblers, so i prefer to find a b&b on macdonald square opposite the station. a couple don’t mind wgs – the manager has taken the girl off me, twice, when i’d finished. i couldn’t currently name one such b&b since the manager of the one i used to frequent went back to greece and i don’t know how tolerant is his successor. sometimes the girl will know where to go. prices are low, they will usually kiss or do owo for a bit extra, and as they’re almost all into hard drugs, they can get some for you, too. yippee! being a major railway station it’s all too easy to be seen by people you work with. i resolved the problem by only working outside the uk, but if that option isn’t open to you, i suppose you’ll be fine if you only go late at night, and there’s no problem at all if you’re just a tourist.

these days i make it a rule to never go back to the girl’s place. quite a few times it’s worked out, but sometimes it really, really hasn’t. ofttimes the girl said she lived alone and when you get there, there’s some black guy. “oh,, him?” says she, “that’s just leroy…”. once i didn’t get the hour i paid for because we were in the room with the television and “leroy gets a bit funny without his television”. although, that said, leroy gave me a lift to the station afterwards. and the girl was his wife. i’ve had worse experiences than that but you can guess the details.

sadly, risk can only be minimised, never eliminated. you check beforehand that the girl will have a shower, that’s it’s ok to give her a massage with oil and that there’s no charge on top of what’s agreed, and then she’ll go back on what she said. or she’ll just get up and leave, and you’re left with none of your money and all of your chang chi (i.e. sexual energy; it’s a taoist concept).

an aside: these ladies are a great way to learn massage. i mean, these days wgs ask me how it’s done. i once had a thai girl who said over and over, “you massage teacher!” and she let me do it sans-johnny, which obviously wasn’t something to which she was accustomed. i can generally elicit an orgasm so long as the woman doesn’t mind what she’s doing. you can spot a real orgasm from the rapid breathing, the little jerky movements she does or the fact that she gets wet at exactly the right moment, or if she’s drenched in sweat or out-of-breath afterwards. i shit you not.

sussex gardens in paddington is quite good. the street is entirely made up of b&bs, many of which don’t have a permanently manned reception, although it takes a while to find one with vacancies and if detected you’ll never be able to go back to the same place again. the girls there, alas, don’t always do kissing and hard drugs aren’t readily available, but the quality is good and i’ve always found them to be honest.

i tried commercial street, looking the place over many a time and doing the business once. there’s sometimes been some v. nice chuff but not one girl i asked ever had a room to go to, and it’s a bit out of the way – gbp10 by taxi from kx, which is better in all respects apart from being clocked by co-workers.

i have some experience of westbourne park grove in notting hill. there’s rarely any action before 11pm and there are no b&bs, but there are some good girls there, they’re always crackheads and the stuff is all-too-easy to get hold of.

i’ve tried quite a few massage parlours, my favourites being the one next to mornington crescent tube and the one down the road from the kings cross holiday inn. the same girls work in both. kissing is unlikely to occur, owo has been known to happen, and i patronise them if i don’t mind these limitations or if i’m not feeling brave enough to try street trade.

soho? at least you know what you’re getting with up-the-stairs models, although they’ll charge extra to let you lick the holy of holies if they allow it at all and there’s only one place with a shower. it’s at number 2, the lady is lena and pretty she is not. and she has what looks like a third nipple (she told me it wasn’t, but that’s what it looked like). kissing is almost unheard-of. there are usually some girls hanging around walker’s court, some of whom i wouldn’t touch with a barge-pole but i’ve talked to some who were nice and i’d take one with me if i had a place to go. per para 3, i wouldn’t go back to her place. i once ventured into a clip joint at age 17. the police turned up with some arab guy who’d been fleeced entirely legally, and i made myself scarce having lost only gbp20, which was worth it for the anecdote.

i’ve only ever been to shepherd’s bush once, looking for monica coghlan’s comadres. it’s just soho writ small – a couple of stairways to heaven and that’s it, no pedestrian chuff.

i haven’t tried streatham because i don’t think i’d come out alive. however i will be trying the other places mentioned here.

the rest of the uk? glasgow girls are generally ug-lee, edinburgh girls are sometimes nice but never as good as london. all the edinburgh massage parlour girls used to kiss back in 1998 but this was no longer the case when i visited recently. i tried bradford back in 1993 but my knowledge is way out-of-date. i once went to a house of ill repute in bristol where the lady was almost 20, devastatingly attractive and she kissed enthusiastically.

some other posters have commented on other parts of the world, so my summary follows. amsterdam is actually the worst. the girls can be a+ looking but they don’t let you do anything interesting at all, and i’m not talking about bb or owo. the girls in the so-called discotheques of luxembourg were very pretty, but back in 1998 the street trade was all unconvincing transvestites or non-pretty black wimmin who put on heavy make-up to make their faces paler – michael jackson syndrome.

australia is great. canberra keeps all its establishments in fishwyck in the middle of nowhere but the girls who did out-calls were not that expensive and sometimes very pretty indeed., and they usually sucked face. but you can’t make a booking on a mobile ‘phone – you need a land-line. sydney is as good as it gets. kings cross has hordes of girls and it’s eminently easy to get a room. kissing transpired. owo and bb have been known to happen, and i saw a couple of girls with kaposi’s sarcoma to prove it (i still did it, just not with those ones). kings cross in sydney has one problem in common with it’s london namesake: it’s restaurants etc make it very popular with normophiles, and you will be seen by people you work with (i was actually working for a religious organisation at the time. it was a bit of a downer). i eventually realised the trick was not to go to kings cross road itself, but to the road perpendicular to it, where there are loads of girls and rooms, and no colleagues. the only other drawback to sydney, and it’s a small one, is that although the rooms always had access to a shower, there would sometimes be no towel or soap, and you really need to get the massage oil off you to avoid funny looks on your way home. cannabis was instantly available, so long as the coffee shop hadn’t been raided recently. there was one particular spot that was popular with transexuals, should you wish to find out where your prostate is.

i did a spell in berne, switzerland. there were “nightclubs” that were fairly pricey but they took amex so i didn’t care. the girls were sometimes great, but they didn’t kiss and there was only a couch on which to make the beast with two backs. a friend procured a russian lady and actually went out with her for a few weeks, but it didn’t last because he worked during the day and she worked at night. some of the street trade was good and drugs of all kinds were all over the place.

finally, germany: cologne’s r-l-d is made up of two streets, one of which is eintrachstrasse and the other adjoins it and has a globus supermarket. there was usually no street trade, and what there was was mostly made up of one woman, and she wasn’t that pretty. there is a knocking-shop on eintrachstrasse where the girls were nice looking but not in the least adventurous. horror of horrors, it closed at 21:30. there are four pubs where you can get a girl and take her to a “pension”, i.e. a goose-stepping b&b. the pensions were clean as can be and had no problem with wgs. one of the pubs - they call them lokals - specialised in desirable english-speaking african wimmin. the blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice.

i also have some familiarity with stuttgart. there was one obvious knocking shop with four floors, full of the african wimmin cologne turned down. elsewhere, you had these pub-type places where a lady would take you to a room with a couch (never a bed) and get her tits out for the lad. you get manual relief and that’s all. as for street trade, some of the ladies “would do” but the only really pretty one was a 21 yo called andrea who didn't kiss and kept her socks on. and i feel a woman isn’t truly nekkid if she keeps her socks on. but her english was flawless. cannabis wasn’t available in the r-l-d. the best place to score was the railway station. i asked a complete stranger whom i guessed was dodgy because he was mediterranean looking and standing around on his own. he took me to a kebab shop, i gave him some cash and he came back with the goods when he could easily have done a runner. nice man.

here endeth.

What Sure Flava
07-22-03, 14:35
Hi Merlin,

Just wanted to know about the wg's in Brick lane area. You wrote in one of your posts that you've come across Indian / asian girls in the area. When would be the best time to have a look around? ie around 7-8pm or later. Also does there seem to be more activity on certain days, ie nearer weekends? Is there anything I should watch out for as I've never punted in London. (apart from the obvious ;-))

I was recently in Manchester and had a look around the Cheetham Hill / Picadilly area, there were a fair few girls out but didnt come across any ethnic variety.

Comments appreciated :-)

My Secret Life
07-22-03, 18:00
I left one thing out of my recent epic: agencies. I think the best place to find them is What's on in London. There's one that does bleck wimmin, it was about GBP200/hour and the girls were realy nice, black as hell and they kissed at least sometimes (it's important to me, OK).

I tried some girls at GBP300 a pop. There was an agency based in Kensington or somewhere posh, called 18-23 Girls or similar. If you go to the office you can peruse a brochure at a charge. The one I ended up with was 18 and v. pretty, but no face was sucked. I tried an oriental at the same price from another agency. She was 23 but said she was 18, and she was very pretty but had horrid stretch marks. Should have got me to massage oil into your belly when you were with child, dear.

There's an independent who describes herself a "Navajo indian". She's really from Nigeria and she likes her food a bit much for her own good, ie she was FAT, dammit! I mean slap the thighs and ride the ripples. After you fuck her you roll over twice and you're still on top of the *****. To top it off, I was with her in a cheapo Paddington B&B. She 'phoned someone on her mobile and ended up shouting at whoever was at the other end - in a tiny hotel at midnight.

The moral of the story? For GBP300 on the streets of Kings Cross or Notting Hill you can get a girl who isn't as well dressed but is just as pretty, and you can also afford a room for the night, loadsa drugs, BBBJ, BB, get ripped off the first time you try it and you'll still have change.

William Hauger
07-22-03, 23:37
Hi

There have been several reports about the Kings Cross area, this is the lowest quality SW you can find in London. The SW s here are all drug addicts or have some other addiction. If good looks is no object it is ok, but most of these girls are beyond ugly and are not to be trusted. Another thing is that the police have zero tolerance for prostitution in this area due to complaints from the public.

Go instead to Brick lane area or Old Montague Street, near Aldgate(East London)

Good hunting

William

CityDude
07-24-03, 08:09
Originally posted by What Sure Flava
Hi Merlin,

Just wanted to know about the wg's in Brick lane area. You wrote in one of your posts that you've come across Indian / asian girls in the area. When would be the best time to have a look around? ......

I would avoid Brick Lane (for WG or food) If you want South Asians, try some agencies - albiet expensive, but reliable. I remember sirens used to have a couple. Look around at ********* on who (the SP) are recommended.

OwnaFord1994
07-26-03, 14:41
Soho: are you sure the "Models" sign are still there? It was there some ten years ago, before every telephone booth in London was full of cards. In those days you can find some beautiful young girls there with good service. Since then I must had been strolling pass but I didn't notice any signs anymore. If there are still signs, the property owners or other occupiers must be very desperate to charge for that or tolerate that. You can have better flats anywhere.

Secret Life: you agency experience is a failure. That means don't look at What's on. GBP 300 you can opt for porn star type experience - everything, or very attractive girls at their prime kissing you like boy friend and cum with you. 150 for pretty young white girl - same thing here, kissing you like boy friend and cum with you. That's what they do, since they listen to their GP's and only do safe sex, hard to get oral without. The price is for British white girls. For eastern europeans better girls for the same price. Black girls and asian girls are cheaper. Outside of London, still 120 for attractive white girls with day jobs. Yes, some girls don't kiss, or they don't kiss everybody, but you can ask the agent first, or you can ask the girl personally when you talk to her on the phone.

My Secret Life
07-26-03, 15:48
A failure, huh? As I said, 18-2something Girls had good quality chuff, but street girls were more "accommodating". There ARE sometimes some very good looking girls down Kings Cross, and quite frankly their drug habits are a plus. Live a little! If you know agencies whose girls do kissing etc., please do tell. And a hint of where to look would be appreciated, too.

The little cards were everywhere last time I looked, but they tend to be cleaned up on Sunday mornings. Often have a woken of a Sunday with a dongle so big you'd want to salute it, and although the runners replace the cards at an admirable rate, choice is rather limited.

Incidentally, there are a couple of good massage parlous in SE London: Madonna's on Lewisham Way and some place in Blackfen, a few doors down from the Barclays Bank that was raided a few years back - I remember because one of the villians had an Uzi or suchlike.

Etaoin2003
07-26-03, 23:09
Originally posted by ownaford1994
are you sure the "Models" sign are still there? The signs are discrete, sometimes just a 3x5 card, sometimes a full sheet of paper taped to the wall inside an open doorway. You have to kind of look around the corner.

There are plenty of walkups in the Peter Street area (near the Raymond theater), but the ambiance is skanky, to say the least. Some of the girls are, too.

They're much nicer on Lisle Street, a few blocks away, very close to Leicester Square.

Lisle is right behind the Hippodrome and the Prince of Wales theater. On the side of Lisle Street toward Chinatown there are three or four open doors leading to stairways. Typically there are two or three apartments upstairs.

When you get upstairs the girl will have a card with prices all nicely written out.

I didn't see a lot of the phone box cards in the area except for transvestites.

Merlin Magician
07-27-03, 03:18
Ownaford,

Those little cardboard signs are still there. Last time through Soho, (May) there was no change. Same little signs, same old street hustler scumbags working the foolish and ignorant on the street. Get on Meard St and walk north or on Peter St and walk north from Berwick.

Perhaps you went through at 7:00 AM? Very rare to find signs out before noon to 2:00 PM.

Yes City Dude, Old Montague by Aldgate underground station is OK, from there toward the Ten Bells Pub, but lots of nosey homeless transient panhandlers. Problem is the girls are about the same skanky quality you find around King's Cross. Occasionally, a jewel will pop up, usually one who is trying to get her rent paid. I call em "once a monthers."

My Secret Life
07-27-03, 08:25
I thought it was a bit dense for Ownaford to ask if there were still "Model" notices in Soho. It's a bit like asking if there are still ravens at the Tower of London.

Aldgate is intriguing. Will try to slake my lust there sometime.

My Secret Life
07-27-03, 18:53
I've had a look at older postings and there are quite a few agencies to try. One question for the assembled multitudes: where can you go with your girl if she's from the lower end of the market? The Travel Inn in Kings Cross is great, because you can get in from the car park and avoid reception. They say they have floor patrols but I've never bumped into them. There are some self-catering flats in Victoria which were GBP80/night the last time I looked, which I hope to try. Any other suggestions?

OwnaFord1994
07-28-03, 16:32
Secret life, your analogy is excellent, both are for tourists. But why would one go to a tourist 'attraction' twice? In addition, you only get the lower end of the market, with a not so good tourist price. In the old days, before the age of the telephone cards, the sign are rather big, fixed and obvious. I remembered that a very nice girl that I saw two days in a row, had a bunch of fresh flowers hanging by the street entrance everyday.

If you get a room for 80, I don't understand what you mean by lower end of the market. I guess 60 still gives you a good fuck in any flat in London, even with quite attractive girls if you can locate them.

Many B&B in areas like King Cross, Victoria, and Earl's Court are very cheap, owned or manned by Asians (Indian, Pakistani). If you pay for two people, I don't see why they will give you problems. Especially near those streets where most of the flats have one or more working girls. Some give you keys to the main door, because they lock the door and don't have people around later in the evening. Just don't stay for breakfast together, when there are a lot of tourist around and the owner's daughter may be serving the food.

If you pay 300 GBP, I don't see why they wouldn't kiss. Just ask the agency and the girl first. They always ask the girl to call you back first and talk before you deciding, irrespective of the price.

If the south east price is still 120, the london price is about 150, or twice the full service you pay for the incall girls in flats. For this agency price, most girls do, but perhaps not for everyone they see. One of the exception that don't kiss is an Irish girl from California, hiding in some small town in summer to get through college without running into people who may know her or recognize her in the future. Just ask the agency. But I doubt if they know that for sure. So just ask the girls. If the agency don't automatically ask the girl to call you, don' t try that agency. Even the measurements from the agents mouth and from the girls mouth are slightly different. But even if the girl promise you they will kiss, it doesn't mean much. A kiss without passion or chemistry is not a kiss anymore. Once I asked the girl. She hesitated but said yes. When we met, she said no tongue. I only started with only light lips. We end up with tongue in mouth all the time, she started it.

But the way, I never took the underground in USA. The tube in London is OK but not the ones in East london near Dockland. Not that they are dangerous or something, just a totally different kind of world compared to the other lines in London. Tourist in the Dockland hotels often take a taxi to the London Tower tube station instead of to the nearest East London station.

My Secret Life
07-28-03, 21:25
Bad news for card fans: British Telecom already blocks the numbers they provide which are found on girly cards and moves are afoot to get other service providers to do the same. http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/5948858?source=Evening%20Standard refers. Oddly, a survey not long ago found that no-one was particularly bothered by the cards, counter-intuitive as it may seem.

You have no idea how much "research" I've done over girl-compatible B&Bs in KX and Paddington. It's excruciatingly hard to find a place where reception isn't permanently staffed, and often in KX the manager will pop out to see who's coming in when he hears the door. And I had to leave one particular B&B in KX where I'd paid for a double room and the manager saw I was in the company of a "lady of negotiable affections". Haven't tried that since. Perhaps Victoria is the way forward.

I suppose I was hoping for the name of a big hotel like KX Travel Inn where you can get in all the time with no bother. At some places, e.g. KX Holiday Inn, reception is usually deserted in the evenings, but I'd rather not face a risk.

Kissing? Haven't researched it, but I'd expect a blanket 'no' if I asked an agency in advance. Usually osculation (i.e. kissing. Was Merriam-Webster's Word of the Day recently) only occurs after I've weaved my magic, but recent comments indicate that asking is definitely worth trying.

And why do I like upmarket lodgings and downmarket vadge? Basically, drugs. Also, I've perused the agency websites mentioned here and although many of the girls are very nice, you can do just as well on a good day at my favourite mainline railway station.

Murilloa
07-29-03, 09:58
I usually restrict comments to the services of working ladies, avoiding travel advice, but must break the rule to correct a false impression given by Ownaford. The trains and tubes east and southeast, including docklands, are perfectly safe at all times for anyone behaving normally. It would be madness to take a taxi from docklands to the West End, paying £30 or so, when you can get in for £4 by train/tube, thus saving yourself the price of a bargain fuck in Peter Street. You can also admire girls of all shapes and races in the carriages, rather than having to endure the conversation of a London cabbie who is usually either an incomprehensible non-English speaker or (much worse) a self-styled chirpy cockney.

The above advice is offered especially for the benefit of our friends from the USA, who often tend to be exaggeratedly timid in encountering a new city. This is not because they are cowardly, but because they are used to their cities at home, in which the worst districts are total 24/7 no-go areas. No such area exists in London: some of the nastiest have been described on this board, and they are nothing like the worst of LA... or Little Rock. You can see what I mean by browsing the South American boards, where you will read the testimony of many a gringo who has started by thinking that he runs the risk of being skinned alive if he steps outside the Sheraton, only to discover with a sense of joy and liberation that Buenos Aires or Cali are much less worrying environments than most cities in the North. And as for the comparison between the quality of bought sex North vs South, this whole site is a massive testimony to the superiority of the latina.

Enough: I digress, and I pontificate. Back to business with some Soho tips: Lori and companions still doing great things at Les Girls starting at £60. Further up Berwick Street, raunch and fetish from £25 offered by Amber and others at number 70a. Neither place gets going till after mid day, but for the early bird, and/or bargain hunter, there is usually an attractive young Eastern European girl doing hectic business at 28 Peter Street from about 0930 until late, starting at £20. My next trip to London comes up next week, I shall by staying in docklands and travelling... by tube.

OwnaFord1994
07-29-03, 20:52
I presented the fact, not a false impression. I didn't say the place is not safe, just that that section of the tube is a different kind of world compared to the rest of the tube system in greater London. The commuters looked very different than the average tube passengers. The carriage are not that cute. And there are graffiti inside outside and along the track, while the rest of the tube system is quite clean. Oh yes, there are rats everywhere and the whole tube seemed very old. But there are no graffiti, rarely rubbish, and no smell as in Paris. They may have cleaned it up recently but with panhandlers around, you can guess what type of area it is. I'm not saying panhandlers are bad. Just that you rarely see them elsewhere near London. Once a young guy approach me near the food stall in a station in the posh areas and asked for a sandwich, politely and discreetly. He said he's hungry.

The tourist is me. Dockland has some nice new hotels. But they are unlike many London hotels, not in walking distance of the tube. You have to take a taxi to anywhere. You call the hotel to call a taxi for you, they call you when the taxi arrive. All the hassle I don't want to disappoint the driver to go to the nearest tube station, which is quite close. In US it's a custom to tip everybody for good service right? One way to do it is to go to Tower of London, not that far away. You can see the smile on the drivers' face. And for a few pounds more you can skip the east London Dockland scene. Especially recommended for honeymoon, anniversary and romantic trips. I'm not that rich to taxi to central London.

Continued on previous thread: Source of agencies. Central London, internet is pretty good. Outside London - the best are local newspapers that only delivered to local houses, not on sale. Perhaps you can get hold of one in your B&B. Some local part-time girls. Some specialize on nurses, teachers, students. Then there may be a few copies of local newspapers with adult ad in the gas station or small newsagents. Then there are regional newspapers such as Surrey Advertiser.

Merlin Magician
07-30-03, 02:03
Ownaford, I know what you mean about that section of the tube. I had to contend with a group gypsy kids with mamas who were getting on and off at various open station stops.

They would get off and run over the foot bridges and go to the other way. Never paid a stinkin penny to ride all day.

Saw some seroiusly looking dysfunctional hobby ladies on those runs. Kinda reminded me of what used to hang out around White Chapel in the old days.

BrendanGooch
07-31-03, 18:50
Gentlemen,

I do not wish to sound rude but I have had at least a dozen emails in the last week from men who walked into an unlicenced strip bar in SOHO and ended up being conned. Anymore emails that I get asking for help on this matter I shall refuse to respond too.

For fu*ck sake Merlin, Myself and other members have warned that places like Girls Girls Girls are no go bars..

Why dont you guys take heed of our advice. Stop being thick and DO US ALL A FAVOUR KEEP AWAY FROM THESE PLACES.

If you walk in and loose all your money then thats your problem.

This is my last say on this subject.

Speedy
08-04-03, 17:33
There is a "SAUNA" next door to Kentish town tube called "Omega".

Its a little grubby inside but the rooms are clean.

The girls range from a 4-8 in looks.
But the majority are a 6-7.
Occasionally you will get a 9-10

£15 entrance and then £50 for BJ and Sex.

They have a sauna room.

Nothing great but some of the girls are gfe.

This makes a good place for a quickie as you will (most of the time) find a nice girl.

I have been 4 times now and always walked out with a grin.
Nationalitys vary from English - German - Hungary - Spanish (What a stunner I was with last year 10 EASY).

Speedy
08-05-03, 14:55
Went to "Omega" last night.
Was a quick visit as I had to go out.

There was 5 girls working:

1 British
1 1/2 Albanian 1/2 Greek
1 Chinese
1 Hungarian
Another I can't remember (can't have been that nice)

Anyhow I went with the 1/2 Albanian one.

I initially thought she was the receptionist! After finding out she was working, I was very please. Her name was "Kelly" and she is going back home next week..
She has a superb rear end and legs, the face was decent and breasts about a B cup.

Normally after paying £15 for entrance and massage then £50 for the extras they normally forget the massage.

But she was great gave me a 20-30 min massage first all over.

I took her in missionary and started.

I had not had any sex for over 1 month so I knew I was not going to last long.

I started to slow down and she was like dont slow down fuck me hard!
(never had a working girl say keep up!)

I informed her I am slowing down because im about to pop!

She was like ok slow down and take your time.

Great GFE experience but shame she is leaving soon.

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LonelyRider
08-09-03, 07:31
originally posted by speedy
there is a "sauna" next door to kentish town tube called "omega".hi there, where is omega?

next to kt station i saw a bar ("closed for two weeks") and then a shirt-printing company. the girls were alright but it didn't seem to me they were working on.

cheers

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StevieSteve
08-10-03, 05:54
Originally posted by lonelyrider
Hi there, where is Omega?
next to KT station I saw a bar ("closed for two weeks") and then a shirt-printing company... the girls were alright but it didn't seem to me they were working on....

cheers Hi

Omega is a five to ten minute walk down to near the end of Kentish Town Road. It's on the opposite side of the road from the station. There's a yellow sign outside and a side entrance.

Once read somewhere that it was owned by the Chinese mafia but not sure that's relevant really.

Went there too many years ago to comment on the service you'll get (though there was a sauna!!)

Steve

Bono
08-11-03, 09:40
Hi My question is directed to members like Brendan Gooch and others who are experts on the scene in England. Although I regularly visit England from the US,I was just curious on how to pick up normal girls in London.I have had luck in other cities but never in London.I think part of the problem is that I dont know where to look.Someone told me about a nightclub called Aquarium where the girls are supposed to be hot and easy.Can anyone confirm? Or better yet tell me where I can go to pick up normal girls.
Thanks

Goldfinger
08-11-03, 12:07
London is not easy. English girls are short and unfriendly! There is a shortage of women as it is a very male dominated city, and this makes it harder than other towns. The good news is that women fly in from every corner of the world. I was talking to two very attractive Slovakians in Leicester square on Saturday! Tiger Tiger, a big disco,bar,nightclub,restaurant on Haymarket is not as good as it used to be. It used to be one of the few places that were 50/50 but not on Saturday. Mezzo, in Wardour street used to be good but is becoming tired. If anyone can recomend any good pick up bars I would be grateful! Stockholm is better, and Tallinn, Estonia is good as well (if you like Swedish girls with anerexia!)

Skagen
08-11-03, 12:33
Report from London:
Date: last week of July 2003

I was in London for a few days and decided to try the sex scene for the first time there. I was looking for a cheap walk-up the type that so many people talk about. I tried the Shepered's market and only found one or two women, both a bit old for my liking. I also

I eventually went got a tip from someone on another message baord regarding the Soho Cottage. I called and made an appt and was given directions and told they had only one girl available. it is in the Soho / Carnaby St area. To be honest I had a little bit of trouble finding it - but there are a lot of bars in the area so there was lots to do while I waited for my appt.

I got there and was met by a reasonaly nice phone woman - looked 40-50 yrs old. At first I thought SHE was the one - but luckilly she wasn't. i was presented a girl named ''Sam''. She was quite cute - maybe 22 or so, blonde hair, about 5'5'' and slim. Quite attracive. She gave great blow job and sex - very enthusiastic. But she was a bit reluctant to kiss and I noticed that she was drinking beer during our session. So maybe she was also a bit tense.

The whole thing was £60 for a half-hour (one shot only) session. Being from USA, where you'd have a hard time getting a cute 22 yr old blonde for that price, its hard to complain. But to be honest, after all that I had been told about London, I really was expecting that in London would be easier to find a short-time girls that were cute for lower prices (more like £25-40 range).

As for Soho Cottage I can recommend it as although I wish it was slightly lower price. Their # is 0207 4944159 . The have a website at www.sohocottage.com that gives a decription of hte girl of the day. Its a good backup plan type of place to have if you're visiting London, I guess.

Bono
08-11-03, 21:42
Originally posted by Goldfinger
London is not easy. English girls are short and unfriendly! There is a shortage of women as it is a very male dominated city, and this makes it harder than other towns. The good news is that women fly in from every corner of the world. I was talking to two very attractive Slovakians in Leicester square on Saturday! Tiger Tiger, a big disco,bar,nightclub,restaurant on Haymarket is not as good as it used to be. It used to be one of the few places that were 50/50 but not on Saturday. Mezzo, in Wardour street used to be good but is becoming tired. If anyone can recomend any good pick up bars I would be grateful! Stockholm is better, and Tallinn, Estonia is good as well (if you like Swedish girls with anerexia!)
Thanks for your input.I think you are right.Ouside of London its very easy but in London its quite hard.However I am also goingto Sweden as well when I come to England this October.So where do u recommend I go to when in Stockholm Thanks to Goldfinger and all who contributed to the report

Merlin Magician
08-12-03, 03:07
Bono,

There are no "normal" girls in London. I suggest you may have some luck among the lady tour guides and also the waitresses in the various restaurants. That is, if you are one of those who enjoy the hit or miss of picking up free pussy on your own. (Ain't none of it really free...)

Otherwise, read our posts here on Soho and Shepherd's Market. Go pay for some nice stuff and then spend the day riding the tour busses. Or if you want to spend mo cash, call Academy Girls. Tell Sean that Merlin sent ya.

OwnaFord1994
08-12-03, 04:55
Goldfinger, it's not true that British girls are short and unfriendly. Indeed a lot of them are in Paris and Vegas dancing. They are taller in the south, but London got a good mix of everything. British girls in the north like Manchester are smaller but much more friendly. British girls are not really unfriendly, and they are not unfriendly to Americans in general, but if you are those americans that can be spotted a mile away...

My Secret Life
08-13-03, 10:48
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Skagen
08-13-03, 15:16
Originally posted by Bono
.However I am also goingto Sweden as well when I come to England this October.So where do u recommend I go to when in StockholmThe main commercial square downtown (called ''Stureplan'', aka near the ''muschroom'') has a lot of clubs and bars. However on weekends these are overcrowded and in the best ones you may need to look like a million bucks or know somebody even just to get past the bouncer/doorman. That can be pretty annoying

Despite some of the drawbacks of the Stureplan area, the girls are young (teens, early 20's) , pretty drunk and pretty friendly. If you do meet women older than that they will be easier - because most of the Swedish guys (even in their 30's) pretty much aren't interested in anything other than really young blondes!

For a more laid-back scene, I enjoyed better the area of town called ''Soder" or "Sodermalm". That area is originally a working class area now taken over by more younger people. It has a lot of bars which are fun, and more laid back than Stureplan - less of the scene-sters and more real people. Its pretty easy to meet girls there and maybe a wider age range.

As with most of Scandinavia, your best days to go out are Thu/Fri/Sat nite, since a lot of people stay home or go home early during the weekdays.

Clapt
08-13-03, 17:58
Hi everyone,

My first post to the forum, so be aware! I used to live in London for 1.5 years and what I observed during this period is:

SOHO is good for the quick shots. If you become a regular customer of the girls, they become much friendlier with you and you get some services where you can't even get in Massage Parlors.

I am always a little bit disappointed with the massage parlors in London. Too expensive, no massage, direct to the point! Same rule applies. Become a regular.

I am also disappointed with the striptrease clubs. As discussed in this forum before, they rip you off! There are two bars (I don’t remember the names) where you have to pay 10 pounds for the entrance, but you can really watch a non-stop striptease.

I will be back in London in September, so I would really appreciate if you know a nice striptease bar (American type).

OwnaFord1994
08-13-03, 19:59
Secret life, your post actually supports not to make generalizations. It's all relatively speaking. If you compare them to Germans, yes perhaps British girls are smaller. But the British girls who dances in Paris have to go to M&S to buy underwear because there's where they can find their sizes. It's on the documentary. It's fair to say that British girls are bigger than Continental girls - tradition British breakfast consist of eggs, beacon, whatever. Continental breakfast are for vegetarians. But then a lot of British girls are overweight, worse than a lot of other countries.

Personally speaking, it's hard to find my size in UK but easy in US.

The funny thing about English National Ballet - it's like the British girls are digging gold in US, while the girls down under fill the void. For example, a lot of Brits went into Hollywood. You know what the Brits replace them with? Neighbors! That's not the worst, you have to watch this - Prison Cell Block H !!

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08-14-03, 12:30
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My Secret Life
08-14-03, 12:44
A Marks & Spencer story... M&S doesn't or didn't used to have changing rooms, instead intending customers to exchange things that were the wrong size. When they opened on the continent, those sexy little euro-girls would just strip off in the middle of the store when they wanted to try things on. Phwoooarrrrrr!!!

PercyP
08-14-03, 14:57
Clapt asked for recommendations regarding London strip clubs and pubs. This should do the trick: http://www.punterlink.co.uk/strip.htm

Also has links to other guides on the same topic.

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08-15-03, 10:53
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08-16-03, 19:18
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Speedy
08-25-03, 17:01
hi all,

just got back from the westend. saw a small sign saying cute japanese model available in brewer street near the junction of rupert st.

you go down some stairs and get greeted by a lady who then shows you in.

asking the prices she showed me a price list. talk about are you on the menu.

she charged £30 for full sex with positions.
£35 full sex and french, and other stuff like [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118) around the same price.
then she says you must pay £2 to the lady. fair play.

immediately got down to business. her body and looks were a 5-6 nothing special.
she goes by the name a1 dont ask why. her fondling of the body leaves alot to be desired she was playing with it like a toy! anywa she kept saying, you big boy etc.
before penetration she used about 1/2 a tub of lube and then she rides me. she was no good at this. i chucked her into missionary before flipping her to doggy. after 10 mins she did state this is ten mins. so i continued.

thats all folks.

Buster Cherry
09-17-03, 15:48
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Tarl
09-18-03, 01:03
Coming to London soon..please advise if these new "party" deals are worth the time or should I go somewhere else. Also, i'll be staying @ Sheraton near the airport - any play around that area?

Finally, looking for a WSG\Model who have very long nipples (at least 3/4", any recommendations on that type of provider would be appreciated.

Speedy
09-18-03, 19:40
has anyone been here?

http://www.sauna2k.com/index.php

Cool
09-22-03, 00:14
what would you guys recommend for being the best country in Europe for punting? thanks.

Sneaky
09-22-03, 05:22
I shall be visiting London from Sept 26 and shall be staying at a hotel near the Heathrow Airport. I would request if someone would help me in suggesting a Gentleman's Club near the Heathrow Airport.

Speedy
09-22-03, 10:34
@ cool.

100% germany

Iseeu
09-24-03, 22:49
cool

1 - Germany (no contest)
2- Spain (Madrid)
3 - Czech Republic
4- Holland
5- Finland

outside of European community but worth a mention - Russia (St. Petersburg)

OwnaFord1994
09-27-03, 04:50
British girls always have a piece of my heart. They came in all shapes and sizes. 60 mil population in England alone and densely populated compared to many european countries, say Finland, merely 5 mil. You have choice, everywhere you go.

Czech isn't in EU yet! The Germans go there, much better price across the border, and the place for all nighters. The Czech girls say the Slova girls are more pretty. Standard of living is even lower there. The other eastern european countries are not that convenient for travellers.

Ashok152
09-28-03, 19:01
Soho is exactly as reported in this forum. There are still "model" signs in a few doors - not many. One large one at the end of Dean Street shining into the the night while the others really are little cards in doors. Before midnight from 20 pounds for classic with a pricing scale. Offerings range from short and stout to tall and lean, imported from Russia to South America. Generally for 10 minutes. Rates up up after midnight to 30 pounds base rate.

Additionally after midnight the stairs are usually fronted by street guys who insist on walking you up so that they can collect their referral fee.

Cards are still to be found in telephone booths and several of them worked. They start the discussion at 100 pounds and work their way down to 85 pounds on the phone for an all inclusive 30 minutes.

Huge construction project going on behind Kings Cross. Whether or not there is anything going on, I would not feel comfortable there as a visitor.

Heard about a place called Fantasy Video in Kings Cross but could not find it in the short time I had.

All in all models meet critical requirements but not a GFE.

Good luck.

Ash

Iseeu
09-28-03, 20:57
ownaford,
I have nothing against English birds - plump and friendly (but too much teasing vs. giving) , but the question was " best country in Europe for punting?" and the Uk has a horrible mongering scene - very pricey and low value for $ and every veteran mongerer has his own horror story.

Finland is notable for its ease of access ( clubs are centrally located in prime Helsinki dinig, shopping and nightlife area) and selection of easy E.European women who take the ferry over to make some extra $$ to bring home.

I agree that Czech rep isn't in EU - sorry for that - But Prague does have one of the best scenes, prices, access and is very Westernized and easy to get to in C. Europe.

Anyway that's IMHO

OwnaFord1994
09-29-03, 06:13
Say 7 mil people concentrated in tiny Hong Kong, it's much easier to find what you want. The flip side of dense huge population is that if you don't spend enough time there, or you don't do research, you will not find that it's a good place because the odds are also against you. Say in UK there are endless supply of real nurses, teachers, students, secretaries etc. You don't go to central London and knock on club doors. But they are there. For international trade, chinese 18-22 London first stop, 22 up east coast, then west coast. Similarly for russians and east europeans. You have to have enough population to support these trade, and provide decent concentration of local talents.

TravelingDave
10-02-03, 07:33
Guys,

I am hoping for some input form the London locals on places to find some local ladies in Central London, not punting. Any places that you can suggest that attract the locals (or travellers for that matter) ladies looking just for a some fun as well?

TD

TheKnight
10-05-03, 20:35
Best place in EU?

I plump for Spain, and their clubs. Easy to find, easy to understand, great selection and great prices - well, as long as you're not in madrid or barcelona! Malaga coast area excellent!

UK (away from London) has fantastic opportunities and has to be mentioned, especially Manchester.

Germany too clinical for me. Soon to be in EU, Estonia, top place!

Xxxplorer
10-06-03, 21:22
Anyone has some advise for some action in Crawley, West Sussex?

Please share

Holland Report
10-10-03, 20:25
Hello,

Spending a week in Bayswater/Queensway. Can anyone advise about the scene around there or Edgware road. Cards in phonebooths or addresses. Any advice suggestions and prices welcomed!

Thanks very much!

Merlin Magician
10-11-03, 02:37
Holland, you will be in the area of the Shepherd's Market. Just go east toward Marble Arch and look in all the little streets just north of Park Lane down to Buckingham Road. You will see many little cardboard signs on apartment entrances. It will also be safer than Soho and much quieter.

Again, just like in SOHO, deal with NO ONE and I MEAN NO ONE!!! in the street. AND...Don't let anyone lead you to an apartment EVER!

Go to the door and knock and look the lady over. If you don't like what you see, politely beg off and go to the next little intrigueing cardboard sign. It is expected and the ladies won't hassle you about unless they be Russian!

You will be taking unnecessary risks if you use call box cards.

Or...if you be spending some cash, call Academy Girls and thou shalt not be disappointed.

Skinless
10-11-03, 03:40
Merlin: How much do those ladies charge for their services? What about the ladies who advertise with hand written ads in shop windows in London's suburbs?

My Secret Life
10-11-03, 14:14
A recent correspondent mentioned Fantasy Video in my preferred hunting ground, Kings Cross (home of "the lowest quality girls in London". Bless!). Fantasy Video is a gay cinema so I wouldn't recommend it unless you wish to take the Road to Sodom.

The best hired chuff I've found in the EU was in Germany, because there are great white girls, lots of pretty English-speaking Africans, and there are always B&Bs that don't mind working girls. Britain has its moments but it's harder to find a nice girl, you're more likely to get ripped off and it's much, much harder to find premises - in Germany all the girls knew where the B&Bs were, whereas only a few know them in London.

I don't like the window girls in Amsterdam, Luxembourg street trade was crap but the knocking shops are good, but expensive. The knocking shops are called nightclubs whereas nightclubs are called discotheques. Is that 70s, or what? You should have seen the face of the guy in the Intercontinental when I asked him if he knew any good nightclubs. Switzerland is non-EU but I'll mention it because it's close... The nightclubs have nice girls but couches rather than beds, and the street trade was good.

Merlin Magician
10-11-03, 17:09
Skinless,

You will be looking at a higher rate but more time than in Soho on the average.

Where in Soho, the usual situation is usually 20 to 25 quid for 15 to 20 minutes, you may spend an average of 50 to 60 quid for 30 minutes or so in Shepherd's Market.

Do not forget to tip the maids at least a couple of quid. They are probably older, ex Working Girls, themselves.

If you don't like what you see, go on to the next little card.

Again, I don't recommend the written notes in the shop windows. They are just as risky as the phone booth cards.

Once more, don't deal with anyone in the street unless it's a street vendor selling wares or goods. (Also, don't eat any cooked meat products off the street vendors. Just like in Mexico, the same rule applies to the UK and anywhere else. You don't need a case of Tourista Syndrome while out pussy shopping.)

And around King's Cross / St. Pancras, you do indeed seek the lowest of the scuzzy skanks. I would imagine that fucking one of those street scabs would be a whole lot like sticking your dick into a warm bag of Fritos greased up with scabs and green snot.

I don't care what anyone says, London's apartment deals beat Amsterdam's windows any day.

Holland Report
10-11-03, 21:26
Thanks for all thay, Guys! Can anyone give me any addresses or phone numbers between Queensway and Soho??? Much appreciated! :-)

BrendanGooch
10-11-03, 23:46
This is a reply to a member called Bono who asked about picking up girls in London and where the best places are.

Theres a very nice place called the Atlantic Bar (near Leciester Square) which I have been very successfull with on two occasions. On both occasions I ended up going home with two women in their mid twenties who were after a bit of fun.

Alternately try the Jazz clubs in SOHO which are good pickup points for girls on the weekend.

During the day check out the coffee shops in Kensington and Knightsbridge these are good pickup points for more sophisicated women.

If u have any furher questions just shout and I shall do my best to respond.

Skinless
10-12-03, 03:36
Hand written ads: why are these risky?
Phone booth ads: A friend of mine uses these all the time when in London and has never complained. So where and what is the risk? I can see how Soho etc would be tourist rip offs but there must be big places - and hand written notes - locals use. Hand written notes in local shop windows seem a safe bet to me as there is osme form of comeback?????

Merlin Magician
10-12-03, 05:09
Skinless,

the risk is that you are going to pay a lot of cash for something you don't know what you are getting. What I mean is that you can do like I advise and go look em over first. By using the window ads and the call box cards, you will spend more cash than it may be worth.

Like I say, if you wish to spend that kind of money, call Academy Girls.

Skinless
10-12-03, 06:14
So no bops on the head. A friend of mine was in Brixton, behind the subway station. Lots of skanks, crackheads inviting him to their room. One wanted to buy her rock first. He then decided to go up a lane for a service but he ended up runningway as he felt she was a scammer. Thanks for the 2 up. I will pas it on.

Murilloa
10-12-03, 13:09
What is the matter with everyone on this board? Half the time people are putting down the London scene, comparing it unfavourably with the FKK clubs, those swarming cattlemarkets of fat bottomed 5s and the unprepossessing man who hanker after them, or the overpriced scene in Madrid... and at the other end of the spectrum, we have people who seriously claim to enjoy infecting themselves and others by putting their body parts in contact with horrendous crack-hoes at our major rail termini.

Gentlemen, take a look at just one of the many escort sites in London

http://www.scandalbabes.co.uk/

where you will see an array of eastern european girls who are young, fresh, educated, sweet, and will let you come as many times as you like, in or on whatever part of their gorgeous body takes your fancy, for £150 the hour. I choose this site almost at random:similar marts exist for oriental girls, blonde english beauties, etc etc.
Add to that the party scene with many sites offering participation with 6 girls and twenty other fuckers for £150-300.
Then there is Soho. Well, of course there are three or four horrible rip-off joints there, but only a total idiot would fall for them. The walk ups are quick, safe and cosy: if you can't afford the prices quoted above, why not invest £25 in a fabulous fuck with Angie or Diana in Peter Street? Or in the mid-price range, the ever lovely Lori and her companions Kiwi Kirstie and veteran Paige, in Blore Court, at £60? Or the varied daily menu around Lisle St?
The phone box cards are also reliable safe and varied, if a little more expensive and occasionally involving tucked-away addresses that are hard to find. But most of these locations are pretty central, and to reach them, just hire a taxi - London is the only city in the world where the cab drivers were mostly born in the city and have to pass a test of their knowledge of the street plan.

If you are really scared of Soho or Central London, explore the apartments in the suburbs. Would anyone seriously criticise the London scene after fucking Jasmine of Bounds Green (0208 888 6370) or Elise of Raynes Park (0208 542 2793)? Again, just two selected beauties from a vibrant supermarket of multi-cultural talent.

London mongering is like London shopping. If you are even half worldly-wise, you can find everything from the most expensive and exclusive merchandise in the world, to solid value at basement bargain prices. If you are not worldy-wise, you may be ripped off, or buy soiled goods.

I could quote more areas and copy many a URL into this report, but I think senior cocksmen like those who write to these pages should be doing some of the work for themselves. Enjoy London, gentlemen, and report back. Let's hear no more of Soho ripoffs or sickening encounters in KingsCross...

TravelingDave
10-12-03, 13:19
to BrendanGooch:

Thanks for the info on pick up site particullarly the Atlatic Bar. Would you possibly have an address or street name for the Atlatic? as not being a local any other info on places in that same area would be much aprreciated.

Thanks

TD

Craven Morehead
10-12-03, 14:40
Suburbs of London are great for high quality reasonably-priced action. Pick up a local paper & look in the back under Massage or Adult Services where you'll usually find tons of phone numbers. This works in Heathrow too, but immediately around Heathrow you may pay more. Be prepared to drive 15+ minutes. Whoever answers the phone will describe the provider in great detail & I have found these descriptions to be 100% right. You'll be directed to their private place for action in civilized surroundings (ie not your car). Some of them look like they're right out of Baywatch & have great attitudes. Q40-60 can get you a fantastic time with someone from your dreams. Stay away from any Indian/Paki women though unless you like screwing a piece of wood.

Morehead's the name. More head's the game.

Skinless
10-13-03, 02:53
Gentlemen: Thank you. We shall purchase local papers and check out messages in suburban shop windows and report back here. I am also amazed at bad reports big cities get. Guys come in and leave their brains at home. Kings Cross is a good example. There has to ber increased risk there (drugs, LE etc). Shop local shall be my motto.

Indians and Pakis are good in Malaysia. Great bbbjs. Maybe the English weather cramps their style?

Speedy
10-13-03, 17:25
I went to this establishment last week: http://www.sauna2k.com/index.php

You pay £15 to enter just to have a sauna and shower. We were confused as we thought it would at least include a short massage, but we were wrong.

Anyhow, 10 girls to choose.

3x 5s
3x 6s
4x 7-8s

All decent looking.

I choose a czech girl as she seemed cute and was well tanned.

After choosing and going to the room she explained that I was her first customer and she was new.

Unsure as to wether she meant that day or in the 3 days she worked there. Her "on the job" work certainly showed. No BJ. From a massage she tried to put the condom on. I was still flacid. No kissing at all. Not even the neck. Her body was very nice at 5ft 5 tall large breasts and slim figure. But that was it! Her pussy was great looking but I could not even touch the damn thing!

Any how after several postition I shot my load and left.

Cute girl that needs to do alot more work.

TheKnight
10-13-03, 18:26
I would just like to commend murilloa on his common sense posting. academy-girls, like Scandalgirls has never let me down.

However, Craven by name, craven by nature I think you are a racist - one can find good and bad in every nationality or race, and I would entirely disagree with your direct comments based on my own experiences.

Worldtrav0099
10-13-03, 22:54
Murilloa:

I would like to echo your comments. Although I travel to London just a few times a year, the outstanding quality available is unparalled in the world.

That said, prices for London ladies are also out of this world and thus create a sad imbalance in the value-for-the-money equation.

Just MHO.

Merlin Magician
10-15-03, 01:59
Here is an article that was printed this date in London. Looks like all the bloody wig wearing wankers on the UK High Court need a fuckin'blow job!

Now what in hell are they going to do next? Charge W/G's with "Assault with a Friendly Weapon?"


Police win right to ban prostitutes from streets
By Nigel Bunyan, London Telegraph
(Filed: 14/10/2003)


Police forces throughout Britain were yesterday given the go-ahead to use anti-social behaviour orders to ban prostitutes from residential streets.

In a landmark case, two High Court judges overturned a district judge's refusal to grant such an order against a prostitute operating in Preston.

The ruling against Lisa Potter, 32, means that police will be able to move prostitutes on from certain "problem areas". If they refuse, they can be arrested.

Paul Stephenson, the Chief Constable of Lancashire, sought to ban Miss Potter from streets around Deepdale in the town in July last year. Using the 1998 Crime and Disorder Act, he claimed that she had acted in an anti-social manner "likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress".

District judge Alan Lloyd Jones was told that the problems caused by local prostitutes had multiplied with the advent of the internet.

Unnamed prostitutes frequently abandoned used condoms and hypodermic syringes in such locations as the grounds of a mosque and a health centre.

The judge refused to grant the order against Miss Potter, saying there was no evidence that her own behaviour had caused harassment, alarm or distress to others.

He also said that although a police officer had given evidence about lone females feeling intimidated by the presence of prostitutes, no such women had given evidence in person.

Yesterday, Lord Justice Auld and Mr Justice Goldring said the district judge had been wrong to disregard evidence of the aggravated conduct of other prostitutes when considering Miss Potter's case.

His conclusion that the evidence did not prove the offence to the necessary standard was "perverse and unreasonable and therefore erroneous in law".

During a recent hearing, Jason Bear, appearing for the chief constable, outlined the problems experienced by the people of Deepdale because of prostitution.

Mr Bear described how, although full sex was more likely to take place in cars, other acts often occurred in small alleyways, behind skips or between buildings.

Lone females were finding it an uncomfortable and frightening experience to use the streets, because of men looking for sex or local residents becoming hostile after mistaking them for prostitutes.

Women staff at a doctors' surgery faced difficulties persuading their husbands to pick them up from work in case prostitutes got into their cars uninvited.

The police found that members of the public were reluctant to give evidence for fear of reprisals. To require them to do so was to impose "an unnecessary and illogical burden" on applications by the police.

Mr Bear said of Miss Potter: "If she had loitered or solicited on a desert island, then it could not fairly be said that her conduct had caused or was likely to have caused harassment, alarm or distress.

"The fact that she had done so in a residential area that many other prostitutes also operated in, and some of those prostitutes engaged in more overtly anti-social behaviour, was highly significant."

The judges agreed with the chief constable and granted him a judicial review. His lawyers did not press for Miss Potter to pay legal costs, saying she was serving a prison sentence for supplying heroin to undercover police officers.

A lawyer involved in the case said: "This ruling will provide chief constables with a very easy way of excluding prostitutes from areas where they are soliciting, provided that these are recognised 'problem areas'."

Strider27
10-18-03, 12:47
A little help pls ?

I will be in London on the 21 to the 23 of october and I am looking for action with some young asian girls. I would prefer Japanese. Perhaps she could even be bi-sexual as I am with a girlfriend.

Could be fun if there was also someone that was ok with a little photo or video ?

Can anybody recommend a safe place or perhaps an escort service ? I will be staying at a hotel around Kensington Gardens.

I have never tried any action in the UK so I bear with me.... :)

Please contact me via a private message through the WSG Forum's Private Messaging system.

Thanks in advance. I will be sure to write here about what happend.

Sneaky
10-19-03, 08:35
Does any one have any information on Body One massage parlour near Baker street station?

Viagrant
10-21-03, 08:59
Regarding Murilloa's recent post recommending http://www.scandalbabes.co.uk/ , I just wanted to add my recommendation.

I used the services of Scandalbabes twice during a London visit last winter, and I was extremely happy with the outcome. The rates were £150 per hour for incall to clean flats, and the girls were both as pictured and advertised. Cute, Eastern European, young ladies who do bbbj with cim. I will certainly use this agency again during my next London visit. The two girls I saw were Cleo and Anna, but I see from their web site that these ladies are no longer listed. Alas, they move on. However, there are several listed there now who have piqued my interest.

V.

Bono
10-21-03, 10:58
Thanks to Brendan Gooch for his much revered insights.I look forward to it.I am leaving Los Angeles this Friday. I would definitely post a report if I score(I hope).And Brendan I owe you a drink for your help,so just let me know.

Tarl
10-21-03, 17:20
Here is my report so far in my first trip to London. As always this board has been fantastic. I booked with a polih girl named Patricia from Scandalbabes.co.uk.

Cost was $150GBP for hour. She was absolutely gorgeous - just like the photos. The apartment - which is put up by the agency - is a one room deal in South Kensington - which I assume all of the girls seem to come from in and around that area. I was staying downtown London, so a taxi cost ~ 6 pounds. For sure this type of quality would set you back $300-400\hr in the US, which I would never pay. Obviously when you factor in the weak US dollar - a punter from the US, like myself, ends up adding 75% to your local currency.

Anyway it appears the quality is top notch in your country - especially the east bloc and asian ladies - which I will check out tommorrow (www.asian-escorts-london.com Trixie). I did not even attempt, nor will I even "just go have a look" at any SOHO strip joints, etc as previous posts are very clear on that point!

So there you go - another satisfied customer in jolly ol' England. I would like to partake in the "party" scene that seems to be taking off - any news on a good one would be great. Also interested in the downtown area parks where this new craze of voyerism is taking place. Any help would be appreciative.

My Secret Life
10-21-03, 19:39
I tried Body One in Baker Street once, butnot recently. I was put off for life. They had massage certificates all over the wall, but the massage I got was not much cop. The only service I was offered was a hand-job - no full sex, no BJ - and the lady wasn't that great either.

JackDaniels
10-21-03, 22:20
Tarl

What did you get for £150 ? Was BBBJ and DFK on offer ?

Woudl be interested to know as I noticed her as one of the best ones on the site.

Cheers.

Sneaky
10-22-03, 05:33
My Secret Life thanks for your info. I have one more request. If you could help me find some gentleman's club near Heathrow Airport or any private places near Hethrow. I would be highly obliged.

Tarl
10-22-03, 18:37
To Jackdaniels:

She offered DATY and BBBJ no problem - but refused CIM/F(on tits no problem) and does not do anal - though I was able to wiggle a finger in for a bit.

FYI - She will only be at Scandals until December - then she is gone - back to Poland. She also will do a bi session with Annabelle - too pricey for me. One last note - make sure your time does not start until you get into the bed. The pre cuddle, kisses, small talk etc cost me 15 minutes - but I was able to persuade her into a 2nd pop hj on tits. Should have made that clear when I walked in - but was distracted by her beauty.

JackDaniels
10-22-03, 21:56
Tarl

Sounds good - I might try her out before she goes. Did you get DFK too ? Really does make a GFE, if she can do that.

I also liked Annabelle on the same site.

Trixe looks good too. How did you get on ?

I have not mongered here in London - always overseas. There does seem to some good talent here.

Cheers.

Viagrant
10-23-03, 05:03
Tarl or JackDaniels,

Do you know whether any of the current Scandalbabes will do BBBJ with CIM?

I am thinking about Donna, Erica, Amanda, or Juliet based on their pics and bio, but BBBJ CIM would be a major deciding factor.

Thanks,

V.

Tarl
10-26-03, 03:26
I did not DFK, but didn't try so ymmv. As for Trixie I hooked up with a local business traveler from Amsterdam. She was in sales as well, so we hit if off immediately. Had a nice dinner then proceeded to my room for a all night extravaganza.

Actually came back with 200GBS in my pocket that I didn't have to waste. So you will need to do Trixie and let me know.

Tarl
10-26-03, 23:41
Viagrant - just look a few post below. I already answered your questions! Also you can't just look at a picture and "hope" for CIM - you need to spend cash and find out like the rest of us.

Viagrant
10-27-03, 04:31
Tarl,

"Also you can't just look at a picture and "hope" for CIM - you need to spend cash and find out like the rest of us."

Sorry, but you don't have to spend cash to find out. That is the whole purpose of the WSG and other internet sites like it. I have already found my answers elsewhere while waiting for my post to be approved here.

As for you answering my question below, I only see a post where you describe Patricia. If you notice, she was not one of the girls I was asking about. Besides, you say she did not do CIM, and she is only going to be with that agency until Dec.

Thanks anyway,

V.

Viagrant
10-28-03, 07:36
To follow up on my post regarding which Scandalbabes do BBBJ and allow CIM, I did a little homework on the net, and this is what I have found about all the girls currently listed on scandalbabes web site. Enjoy!

Alexia ???
Alisa BBBJ, not much touching allowed
Amanda BBBJ
Anastasia BBBJ, CIM (spits)
Ann BBBJ, CIM, DATY
Annabelle BBBJ, Cum on breasts, DATY, no kissing
Becky DFK, BBBJ, CIM (spits)
Britney BBBJ, CIM ymmv, DATY/69 ymmv, light kissing, model material, aloof
Carmen BBBJ, CIM
Diana BBBJ, CIM, Anal, rushed
Donna ???
Emma BBBJ, CIM, no anal
Erica ???
Faye ???
Gia ???
Janet ???
Jennifer BBBJ, DATY
Jessie BBBJ, CIM, anal
Karen ???
Kristina BBBJ, DATY, 69
Lauren ???
Leila DFK, BBBJ, CIM
Lena BBBJ, CIM (spits), spermophobe, looks better in pics
Melissa BBBJ, CIM, DFK, DATY, 69
Miranda ???
Nicole BBBJ, CIM, DFK YMMV
Olga DFK (ymmv), BBBJ, CIM (spits), no facial, no anal
Olivia DFK, BBBJ, no CIM
Patricia BBBJ, no CIM, Cum on breasts
Simone BBBJ, CIM, kissing, DATY, 69
Tiffany BBBJ, DATY
Valerie DFK, BBBJ, CIM (spits)
Yolanta BBBJ, CIM, Anal

Tarl
10-29-03, 03:05
Viagrant - Looking at my previous post I see that I may have coe across with the wrong tone.

Keep in mind someone will need to spend the money - that's how the board gets filled with the good and the bad news.

Anyway sorry to bust your balls! Welcome to the WSG forum.

Viagrant
10-29-03, 08:10
Originally posted by Tarl
Viagrant - Looking at my previous post I see that I may have come across with the wrong tone.

Keep in mind someone will need to spend the money - that's how the board gets filled with the good and the bad news.

Anyway sorry to bust your balls! Welcome to the WSG forum.Hi Tarl,

No problem. :-) I agree that someone has to spend money, and if we share our findings, we can avoid spending to find out the same (bad) things.

Cheers,

V.

OttoGraham
10-29-03, 17:53
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However, there is no default "On" setting. You need to physically turn it on by following the instructions on the site.

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Darren Roberts
11-01-03, 01:10
I was feeling horny so picked up a local newspaper which adverised "adult services". Found one advertising oriental girls. This place is siyuated between Mill Hill and Edgware behind a shopping parade.

I drove the car as directed and the "maid" came out to greet me and show me where to park the car. The maid is from Burma and despite being about 40 has great charm herself - so much so that I wanted to fuck her instead of the girl.

Led up stairs to a room glowing in candle light, The girl was from Singapore about 5ft 2in and is 22 years old. She came in asked what I wanted (full personal) for £60. She then put on some gentle music, stipped, tooke me to the bed and started with a massaging my thighs-followed by a body to body then hugging but no kissing.

She massaged me and then I thouht she was about to perform a BBBJ - but she had hidden the condom illfully in her mouth (hence no kissing). Any way she did a good job and then sat on me putting my penus inside her. She was so small and light that i could lift her up and fuck her standing with her legs round me.

We then went into missionary style until I came inside her.

All this was half an hour and I came out thinking that the ambience of the place deserved a return visit.

Number available on request.

Foss
11-05-03, 10:39
Darren,

I would love the number.

Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.

Thanks.

Boofer
11-09-03, 19:46
London as expensive as it is seems to have some of the best GFEs in the business. Used a service called Touch of Class and managed to hook up with a couple of girls on two different days. The woman on the phone, Suzanne, was very friendly and helpful. She advised me correctly after understanding my needs and had a wonderful time with a busty super sexy big girl called Alex, from Poland. Everything was on the menu, even Anal for 200. Met me at the door, had a great bottle of wine, ripped cloth off each other and had a wonderful time with CIM for a finale.

On the other night, tried Katie, a lithuanian from the same service and it was better than a girlfriend. She seemed shy at the beggining but once the banging started, she got into it with vigor. CIM was clumsy too and loads was spilled.

Both girls were dressed in high heels as requested and tried hard to please. Can't wait to get back. :)

My Secret Life
11-15-03, 21:37
Have just found the Anal Conoisseurs topic and transferred my little technical question there. 'Scuse...

Dancesw/Chicas
11-15-03, 21:44
Does anyone have experience Argentine or Brazilian girls
in London??
DWC

Mozart 21
11-16-03, 14:45
Judd Street Sauna (near King's Cross) (GBP25 for 45 minutes)came highly recommended but proved a disappointment. Two WG - one blonde and buxom, the other darker skinned. Went with the blonde, Tamara, who claimed to be French, but was I suspect from eastern Europe, judging by the accent. Massage feeble and quickly moved to extras. FS GBP 130 - straight to action with a minimialistic covered BJ and then to doggie. Clear she wanted to get this over asap so not enjoyable for either of us. Would not recommend, which is a shame as associated sauna at Euston (same owners) much better.

Merlin Magician
11-16-03, 18:25
Mozart:

25 plus FS for 130 quid!! Man! Did you ever get fucked (in more ways than one)!!

Read back on our reports on Soho and Shepherd's Market. You could have had some real nice quality pussy and could have been able to shop for it also. All for less than a third of what you paid.

Also, for the same money, you could have had an Academy Girl or a nice lady at Les Girls or The Cottage for quality for less than the cash than you put out on the old worn-assed out dark skinned faux French Eastern European=Romani Gypsy, you got at Judd St. Sauna.

Murilloa
11-17-03, 16:07
Dances w chicas,

The following agency has an outstanding Brazilian girl, Victoria

http://www.aprov.com

also other latin girls from Venezuela.

I've never had an Argentine girl in London. But for the price of three sessions with the avpro girls, you can fly to Buenos Aires...

My Secret Life
11-17-03, 22:03
I don't think GBP130/hour is unreasonable for a massage parlour in Central London. I'd actually expect to pay that to the girl and another GBP30 on the door. I tried Judd Street once but the girls were not so nice; ditto the Euston place, which wouldn't let me smoke a joint either - I had to go outside. The prices were the same at the place on Kings Cross Road and the one beside Mornington Crescent tube. One good point about the latter is that they have towels with SAUNA AND MASSAGE printed on them in "large, friendly letters". These towels make excellent mementoes, although once when I stayed with my parents I forgot the towel was in my laundry bag and I left my mum to do the washing... I never saw the towel again.

Sadly, last time I looked the Mornington Crescent and KX Road joints were shut at a time when they should have been open - I'm worried they might have shut for good, and they had the best girls.

Steam and Sun beside KX Station (next to The Rocket pub) has perhaps even nicer girls, but they made up the prices as they went along and I will never, ever venture back, no no no no no no no. No.

I also tried a place in Camden Town and one other, but they were utterly unmemorable, hence I don't even remember the second location.

I don't know why people rave about Soho. I was there a few weeks ago and it was GBP120 for an hour with a girl who wasn't that nice. I actualy preferred the maid and I wish I'd propositioned her. Worse still, I only ever found one walk-in with a shower and the lady, Lena, was UG-LEE. So liberal use of massage oil necessitates a trip to a station to use the showers. And another Soho thing - if the courtesan (musn't call them prozzies - it hurts their feelings) lets you lick her yoni at all she charges extra.

The only advantage of Soho over massage parlours that I can think of is that you get a bed rather than a single-person trolley thingy.

Dancesw/Chicas
11-17-03, 22:52
Muriolla
Thanks for the info.
I used to see this girl in BA. Now she lives in London
and by e-mail told me she is charging 300 euros....
Thats about 10 times her BA rate....!
On the other hand she sure delivers!

Murilloa
11-18-03, 15:39
My secret life,

Have you tried Westminster Sauna? It's on the south side of the river near Lambeth North Tube, at 162 Westminster Bridge Road. My last trip to London in October I had a very delightful Latin girl there called Lauren (or Lorraine?) for £15 the door and £80 full service. She only works Mondays and I returned the following Monday, risking missing my flight back, only to find that she was busy. Although there were two other very neat young pieces on view, I started to panic about getting to Heathrow and decided to save up for next time: hope to find her there on my next trip, which is this weekend - Les Girls of course on Friday night (an exception to your strictures about Soho), Rugby on Saturday morning (c'mon, England) and a call to one of the agencies that afternoon - meditation and prayer of course on Sunday, (well, in fact that's the day I have to do some work) then Monday off to Lambeth North. See you there...

California Guy
11-18-03, 21:44
Hello. I will be visiting the area soon and I had a couple questions if some of you can help?

First I was curious if it is legal in London to hire women or should I be careful?

Second, where is the best place to find women? I have seen some escorts online but they want a lot of money.

Third, is it better to fly on a cheap airline to another country? There seem to be great rates in other parts of Europe.

I appreciate anyones help here and links would be welcomed.

Thanks.

My Secret Life
11-19-03, 13:22
Haven't tried Westminster sauna, but I'm now pretty much sold on the idea. Good on yer! I remember seeing it advertised in the past - doesn't it have limited opening hours? If the dens of iniquity at Mornington Crescent and KX Road are shut for good I'll need somewhere else to make a dent in my unquenchable lust, and even if they aren't I'm all for broadening my repertoire.

My Secret Life
11-19-03, 17:44
California Guy -

You don't have to read many postings to answer all your questions. Regarding legality, it's illegal to kerb-crawl (ie approach girls in a car) but approaching them on foot is, I believe, legal. An establishment is illegal if >1 girl works there. It's illegal for the girl to solicit for sex, but that's her problem.

If you DO pick up a street girl, almost all hotels will object even if you book a double room. There are a few which don't, otherwise find a Bed & Breakfast (ie cheapo hotel, known on continental Europe as a pension) where there is no reception and hope the owner doesn't come out whenever he hears the door, or stay somewhere expensive where you can get in through the car park or where reception is unmanned late at night. The legality question is answered elsewhere, but I admit you'd have to dig for it. Should I be careful? Umm, yes, extremely. And the Pope is, incidentally, a catholic. Really.

As for where to find chuff, I can name nine "tenderloin districts" in London. My favourite is Kings Cross, although whenever I say this here I always get shouted down because some of the girls are as skanky as it gets and the place is rife with hard drugs, the advantage being the lady can get some for you. All you have to do is read a few posts to get the lowdown.

Is it cheaper to fly overseas? It's certainly less risky and it's easier to find accommodation without resorting to subterfuge, the drawback being you'd have to stay in the place long enough to experience serious economies of scale for the exercise to be worthwhile. There was a discussion on this board not long ago about the best country to go to, Germany being my favourite. I've also tried Holland, Luxembourg, Switzerland and Ireland. Go to the Dublin board to hear me tell you just how shit it is. A fellow poster said he laughed like a drain and that I should write a book, which made me feel ten feet tall and bulletproof.

Although I consider Kings Cross to be three-quarters-way to paradise, when I went there a month ago it was a washout. First of all, both the B&B which doesn't mind girls and the big hotel with a car park entrance were full - next time I'll book ahead. I found another B&B at 10pm which looked like I could sneak a girl in; they had a reception but it appeared deserted. I spent quite a few hours walking the streets. Anyone would have thought I was the prostitute.

I saw one girl who was quite pretty. The problem was she looked fierce and she was a half-caste - I know an agency that does lovely bleck wimmin, but I don't remember the last time I picked up a black street girl (in KX, natch) who didn't rip me off.

There was another who was none too pretty, but I was getting desperate so I approached her anyway. As I got close I realised she was even less pretty than I first thought and I said to myself, I won't be boasting about this one to the guys at WSG. When I spoke to her she opened her mouth and she seemed to be mute, which is not altogether a bad thing, but her teeth were soooooooo bad (I believe you call this "English mouth") I turned tail and fled.

Much later there was this lady with long, flowing blonde hair, but she looked kind of diseased and I wasn't entirely sure she wasn't a TV/TS - the only cock I wanted sucked that night was my own.

The worst part is that I'd seen a REALLY pretty girl who was younger than most, before I'd found somewhere to stay. Alas, she'd disappeared by the time I'd found a place, showered and shaved.

To top if off, when I gave up and went back to my accommodation, I noticed that reception was actually permanently manned, with the guys sitting out of sight when I first went in. There was also a notice saying NO VISITORS. Yet worse, the reception guys gave me dirty looks on leaving and re-entering the place - they obviously guessed I'd been trawling for commercial sex and, stiff fucks that they are, they disapproved. Bastards. But most of my trips to Kings Cross have been a lot of fun.

Worf1972
11-19-03, 19:41
I will have a 3 hour layover in London, on my way to Dubai. Where could I go for a massage close enough to get back to the healthrow airport in time for my connecting flight? No sex, fact being I have 3 women waiting for me in Dubai. Just a massage will do while I wait for my flight.

Viagrant
11-19-03, 20:46
California Guy,

London is fun, but you can easily get to Frankfurt Germany by plane from London for US$130-$200 roundtrip. At the FKK Clubs near Frankfurt, you can get full service for US$100 for 1 girl or US$150 for two girls, etc. Compare this to London where it costs US$200-$250 minimum for 1 girl. So, it is really worth it to check out Germany and the FKK clubs.

I am going next week and spending half the trip in London and half in Germany.

V.

Barely Sane
11-19-03, 22:10
You can get a lot cheaper in London than the price you quote Viagrant. I know of at least one girls that does overnights of at least 12 hrs for about GBP 400 and there are many that offer 1 hr for GBP 100 or less. You just need to spend some time doing your research the same as anywhere else

TheKnight
11-19-03, 23:10
Cali Guy,

Rather than spending 200 bucks flying elsewhere, and spending all that time in airports, simply hop on the train north to Manchester. There are good parlours there where it's 65 quid for an hour, and the train fare if booked in advance should only be about 70-80 quid even without discount. If you've no business in London, staying in Manchester will be much cheaper too. See the Manchester pages for more info, or send me a private message.

Regarding girls in hotels, I stayed in a cheap (3*) hotel in South kensington last year and had 5 girls visit me for an hour over my two day stay. Just give them your room number, and if hotel is large enough the reception staff cannot remember all their guests, so how are they to know if it's a working girl or not? Ask the agency to deliver a girl well dressed if really concerned.

I like academy girls, but also aprov and roses are good agencies at reasonable market rates, but I still prefer the quality of service and price of Manchester. Have a good trip.

California Guy
11-20-03, 06:23
Hey thanks to everyone for the info. The idea of going to Germany sounds good. I was even considering flying to one of the Eastern countries like Ukraine, Poland, or the Czech Republic.

Can anyone give me some links to agencies in London, just in case I stay? Also I will actually be spending time in Italy as well so maybe I should hit things up there? I found this one agency online called the Eli Agency, anyone here of it or know how the girls are? They charge about 700 Euros for 6 hours, which is pretty good but I didn't want to spend that much time with one girl.

For the person who told me about Manchester what are the women like there? I mean in terms of looks are there some good ones?

Well thanks again and if anyone ever comes out my please feel free to ask questions.

TheKnight
11-20-03, 23:58
Cali Guy,

Some of the women in Manchester are models. Some are dirty - the service tends to be much better in parlours - I often commute from my base just for the value, choice and quality.

I am forbidden to post links but if you set yourself up for personal messaging on the control panel, send me a PM and I'll respond with web links etc. Well worth it!

Viagrant
11-21-03, 02:56
Cali Guy,

Some good agencies in London that I like: Scandalbabes and A1-Asian. There are others, but I like these because they offer young, pretty girls at reasonable rates, and many of their girls do bbbjtc. Just put those keywords into Google to find their web sites.

V.

California Guy
11-21-03, 06:27
Cool well I am leaving tomorrow so if someone can PM me as well that would be great. Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service and I will be checking it on my trip. I would come back here but the laptop I am using belongs to my work so I don't want them to see anything they aren't suppose too :)

Thanks again for the info.

J Dougherty
11-22-03, 03:49
Doesnt seem to be any reports on Allure Agency (www.agency-allure.com), so let me contribute.

I booked Lara (GBP 200) based solely on her pictures. I couldnt find any reports on her, but what the hell, she looked great in them.

Well, the girl didnt look anything at all like her picture. At first, I wasn't sure if it was her mom or her that opened the door. She's aged a bit, and time has not been too kind on her. What a huge disappointment, especially since I've been looking forward to this meeting for some time. I didnt expect her to look spot on, but at the very least, be about 80% accurate.

In terms of personality, she's a wonderful girl ... err, lady. She's very friendly and charming, and she puts you at ease almost immediately. We had a nice chat about life, home, etc, and though I enjoyed that all, it isnt quite enough to make up for the initial letdown. In a way, I felt cheated.

Well, I couldnt get my spirits up enough for the rest of the evening to make a fair opinion about how she was in bed. Given the circumstances, the sex was okay. She offers the usual (DFK, OWO, CIM, didnt ask about anal) and was responsive and passionate. One thing I must say is that she kisses very well, and she really knows how to make full use of those soft lips of hers. I'm sure that if you went in without any expectations, she'll be a great companion.

Is it typical that the girls look so different from their pictures or was it just a bad pick for me? Should I even bother to complain to the agency? I'm new to the London escort scene, so I'd appreciate any comments on this. After this first experience, I'm hesitant to try out any of the other agencies. There are some very beautiful women on the sites I checked out (academy girsl, scandalbabes, aprov, etc), but if this experience is any indication, I'm afraid its going to end up being a disappointment again. I hate making such an unforgiving review about an obviously nice person, but I felt this might help other newbies here understand the scene better.

TheKnight
11-23-03, 12:52
Mr Dougherty, of course you should complain. Really loud! The worst that can happen is they put the phone down.

To be honest it sounds like you enjoyed all the fruits of the service so you're in a weaker position than if you'd not gone through the door and highly unlikely to get any cash back. However be reasonable with the agency and ask for a half price booking next time with someone clearly as young as they say. They probably won't do half price but you should get 50 pounds off if they're a reputable agency. Never been used that agency but Academy Girls has always been very helpful when I've had a problem, specifically with one girl who said she did OWO, and didn't go near the head of the penis with her lips, not in any way what I would describe as OWO.

Better luck next time, and let the board know if you got a discount for another booking.

William Hauger
11-25-03, 00:30
Hello,

If you want value for money go to Vivas, www.vivasmassage.co.uk. The girls range from 6-9, 60 pounds for 30 min. It is situated abut 25 min from Oxford Circus due east.
The other massage parlours are rip offs compared to this place.

Best regards,

Lars

Ramrod
11-29-03, 04:16
When in London recently, I used the telephone cards. After trying a few numbers, I located one on Gloucester street. When I got there, a black female opened there and I was led to a room inside. I was then shown 4 girls, and I was pleasantly surprised by the quality. All were in there early 20s and 7/8s. I finally selected an Italian girl, Claudia, who was really sexy. Negotiated 60 pds for half hour. She would only do CBJ. My first shot was quick, then asked for a second one, for which she asked another 40 pds. This time I relly banged her in several positions and unloaded!

This was the best I had experienced so far.

StevieSteve
11-29-03, 23:25
"When in London recently, I used the telephone cards. After trying a few numbers, I located one on Gloucester street. When I got there, a black female opened there and I was led to a room inside. I was then shown 4 girls, and I was pleasantly surprised by the quality. All were in there early 20s and 7/8s. I finally selected an Italian girl, Claudia, who was really sexy. Negotiated 60 pds for half hour. She would only do CBJ. My first shot was quick, then asked for a second one, for which she asked another 40 pds. This time I relly banged her in several positions and unloaded!"

Hmm, this would be a very lucky experience in what I assume is in fact Gloucester Place off Baker Street. Normally very mechanical, I've found.

Any chance of further details?

Banana61
12-07-03, 15:05
Fay - http://orientalangels-london.com

Incall, 2 hours, GBP 280

Neat, top floor flat. 5 mins walk from Marble Arch tube, one wrong turn due to odd numbering scheme on the street. Not her home.

Website description/pictures are accurate.

Fay was very considerate & attentive; dressed as requested. Shower, good OWO, did not CIM (didn't ask so I assume she prefers not). Good massage, a bath then back into action. Energetic performance from Fay.

Her english isn't great but it's good enough.

Banana61
12-07-03, 15:09
Emiko
Central London, nr Baker Street

http://www.emikoescort.com

Incall, 2 hours, GBP 400

Nice top floor flat - obviously her home. 5 mins from BS tube, easily found.

As described on the website although I wonder a little about the stated age. Skin a little on the soft side.

Based on reports I was expecting a lot from Emiko and so feel a little let down, given comparison to a meeting with Fay the day before. She is obviously an intelligent entertaining companion and would be very suitable for a "real" escort situation.

Shower, oral (covered), massage, rest/cuddle, action, solo shower.

BrendanGooch
12-07-03, 16:47
I want to rent a call girl for a whole night i. e going out, dinner then to bed.

My searches so far have found girls in the price range of a £1000 ponds phew :-))

I guess you pay for quality but anyone advice on reasonable rates or is this the going rate ?

BrendanGooch
12-07-03, 16:49
The the gentlemen who commented about SOHO

There are some pretty girls in the walk ups however you really got to shop around. It can be a bit of a pain though trawling up and downstair there again not as bad as those Frankfurt Brothels :-))

BrendanGooch
12-07-03, 16:54
Theres a girl who advertises in telephone boxes near Earls Court. She advertises as an 18 year old blonde.

I visited and shes was pretty however near enough 22-23 years of age sounded like she was from Manchester. When asked about prices for blow job and f**k she told me 25 quid however I gave her a 30 quid and she never gave me any change even though I had already given a fiver to the madam on the door.

She turned out to be very cold from then on insisted that I do not touch her body and just stick it in and get it over and done with.

What a bloody rip off ! avoid her at all costs..

TheKnight
12-07-03, 18:32
BG - angelsovernight offer allnighters from £600.
It's the same agency as academygirls.co.uk as far as I can tell and they're very reliable. I'd use them if I wanted an overnight, but while I can see the appeal, I'd probably prefer 3 separate hours with 3 babes at £200/shot!

Just keep searching because some do o/n from £550, but cannot remember their web addresses. Think one may have been called Coyote overnight, which may now just be known as Coyote.
Try ScandalGirls as well, but the quality I've had from there has varied.

If you get a bad girl it's a lot of cash to waste, and a long night. Why not go for an hour first and if all's good why not try to arrange o/n at end of the session. The girl don't have to tell the agency and may make a bit more and may even give you a discount. Worth a thought?

Snowy
12-11-03, 00:54
BG,

Try Agency Caprice, who offer a number of their girls at £550 for the night. I've not seen any of the girls through the agency, although I have spoken to the lady who runs it a couple of times. She seems pretty honest and helpful and I think the agency gets pretty good feedback on ********* (I assume that *********. com has been mentioned previously in the UK forum pages - it's not perfect, but it's an amazing resource).

Some of the girls have feedback through other agency or sites (Anika has really good feedback and has her own site and Ognezka is also Patricia on Scandal Babes and seems to have had a lot of good reports recently).

http://www.agencycaprice.com/news.htm

You should also try ********* (through the main home page) or Puntingzone's (through their forum) tour pages, as sometimes some of the girls coming from out of town may offer lower rates than the local escorts for an overnight.

I would also really echo theknights advice - I really wouldn't blow this sort of money on an overnighter until you had hooked up with the girl for a shorter appointment, just to check you can stomach each other for 12 hours.

His other point about asking the girl directly about getting together is fantastic advise, and something that doesn't get mentioned too often in local forums. I've found quite a few of the girls from Eastern Europe quite happy to give out their personal contact number, especially if you click with them after your first or second encounter. They usually won't lower their hourly rate, but extended appointments can definitely be negotiated at significantly lower rates if you can develop some sort of rapport. I should also add some girls with look at you with faint disgust for suggesting it might be easier for you to contact them directly.

Worf1972
12-11-03, 20:03
Help.

I have a 12 hour flight layover would love to get a shower, massage, maybe extras but not neccesary. My problem is, I am from the states, I am getting .50 cents on the pound. 200 pounds for an hour is almost 400 American dollars!

I don't pay that in New York where the quality is 100 times better. Does anyone have any information on what I can do?

Merlin Magician
12-12-03, 15:52
Worf,

Look up Blore House/Les Girls on their website and make an appointment. You can ride the Picadilly Line tube from Heathrow nearly to the front door. ( well, a couple of blocks away anyway).

Also, give Academy Girls a shot.

Worf1972
12-12-03, 19:26
Thanks Merlin greatly appreicated need to pass the time. As I go onward to affordable girls in Dubai.

Thanks again

Murilloa
12-12-03, 23:57
Worf 1972

Yes, Les Girls is the solution for you. Lovely women for £60 half hour, £115 the hour, they will give you a shower, a massage, whatever you want. If you are really really lucky you will be there on Friday and will be able to fuck the beautiful Lori. But all the Les Girls girls are good.

45 minutes by Underground from Heathrow, or take the Heathrow express to Paddington and then a taxi. 5 minutes interesting sexy safe walk from Piccadilly Circus Underground station, the very heart of London.

If you're there on a Friday, fuck Lori beautifully for me, and tell her I sent you

Here's the web site:

http://www.lesgirls.co.uk/

Go for this one Worf, and enjoy, and report back.

Merlin Magician
12-13-03, 18:20
And...Worf...

STAY THE FUCK OUT OF THE CLUBS AND DIVE JOINTS IN SOHO!!!! NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!

And...DO NOT LET ANYBODY ...AND I MEAN ANYBODY...ON THE STREET LEAD YOU TO ANY KIND OF ACTIVITY!!!!

ChicagoBoy23
12-13-03, 19:07
Gotta agree. got ripped off in club in Soho. Really weird system pay 12 L get in, then very expensive drinks for Russian girls. No girls dancing, some weird stuff about going upstairs for lingerie show. It was dead. I cut my losses and got out. I think the locals must know how the game is played but I was a sucker tourist.

Worf1972
12-13-03, 19:45
Great thanks guys, yes I read in the timeout guide that soho is a no no. Nothing but a tourist rip off center.

Any suggestions on a short stay hotel to relax on this darn 12 hour layover in London?
I did not realize that the US dollar is only .50 cents of the British pound.

BrendanGooch
12-13-03, 22:38
Guys,

Thanks for the info on the escort girls overnight.

Merlin Magician when do you next plan to be back in London ?

BrendanGooch
12-13-03, 22:44
ChicagoBoy23


Sorry that you ended up learning the hard way about SOHO.

Gents,

Remember next time if you ever happen to get get caught up like this politely ask the 'heavy' to call the police. If he begins screaming and shouting at you (its there tactical ploy to scare the shit out of you) just stand there look them in the eye and repeat "Please could you call the Police if yo have a problem "

They will eventually give in and let you go on your way.

THE OTHER OPTION IS TO STAY OUT OF THESE PLACES.

Etaoin2003
12-14-03, 21:43
There's plenty of fun to be had in Soho, so long as you avoid any place that has a "tout" or a girl standing in the doorway trying to lure you in.

The upstairs "model available" places seem to be quite honest and reasonably priced, despite the recent drops in the value of the U.S. dollar.

Viagrant
12-16-03, 05:14
Worf1972,

The exchange rate when I was in London 2 weeks ago was about $1.85 per Pound when I factored in fees, etc. The most cost effective way to exchange is to use your ATM card and to keep the transactions to a minimum and as large as possible to dilute out the fees (my bank charged $5 each time I used a London ATM).

As others have posted, if you have 12 hours, you can easily take the Picadilly line into Central London and go to an incall. You can use Scandalbabes or A1-asian (150 and 140 pounds per hour, respectively). I have always been able to take a shower at their flat before departing.

I need to post my reports soon, but I visited 2 girls at Scandalbabes (Melissa and Sophia), and one at A1-asian (Sisi). Wonderful time with each of them, though I would recommend Sophia highest, then Sisi, followed by Melissa.

Have fun in London, and feel free to PM me for more details.

Viagrant

Worf1972
12-16-03, 19:25
Thanks Viagrant, I was considerating Lesgirls, I like the asian Lily on the website. But check *********.com and can't find any reports on her. Any suggestions anyone? Would like to relax with an asian girl on my layover. They give the best massages.

Worf1972
12-17-03, 22:27
I found reports on Lily from lesgirls. Her previous reports were so bad that she changed her name from jojo, jo jo and joy to Lily. The descriptions about a woman that is either Thai, Chinese, Japanese or Singapore who denies she is all the above. The reports say,"she is a very beautiful Asian woman who has a horrible attitude about sex".
In her own profile she states, she is bi-sexual. From the reports I believe she is gay and doesn't like men. She says in her own profile that she does not want any Oriental ( Asian ) male customers. So she is also a self-hating Asian woman to boot.

I recommend guys stay away from this she-devil save your money and don't get hook by the beauty.

BrendanGooch
12-20-03, 17:37
I have heard the same from someone else about Lily from Les Girls. Just dont request her services..she is not worth the effort and money.

If she doesnt like her job she should find another occupation.

Murilloa
12-20-03, 21:03
Yes, I once tried Lily and she's exquisite to look at but doesn't like to please. If I ever had her again, I think I'd just ask her to pose and dance for me while I masturbated - and I think that is what she would prefer also.
Les Girls' superstar remains Lori: she's not Oriental but has the same kind of petite body, a lovely face and a real vocation for this work. She's only there on Fridays. There's a new girl, too, Kirsty from New Zealand, who sounds like a winner and who works three days a week: I am looking forward to trying her on my next trip to London. At £60 the half hour, one can always afford to experiment with a new girl at a dependable place like Les Girls. Lori, of course, is worth the £115 payment for an hour: two shots, with intelligent and sexy conversation in between.
Happy Christmas,
Mur

Vegaheart
12-31-03, 19:02
Sorry guys, but Lily is not the same girl as jojo, jo jo or joy.

Lily is an amazing girl who worked at Les Girls for a couple of years. Then she left to persue a dancing career I believe. But she returned about 2 months ago, and I was straight round there like a flash as soon as I heard. I saw her probably 20 times before her hiatus, and 2 times since her return, and every time has been incredible.

There was another asian girl working at Les Girls who was hopeless, and I think you are confusing the two.

Lily is one of the very best girls I have ever been with, and I am planning to see her again this week. She is a real treasure. For the record she is from Singapore. Lily's many, many very good reports on *********.com were deleted (as is the norm when girls retire) when she left to do other things. I imagine her many fans like myself have not posted reports since her return so we can keep her to ourselves, as before it could be difficult to get an appointment due to her popularity! Trust me, you will have a very good time with Lily.

Lori is fun too, if a little bit quiet for me. Paige is also worth a visit.

BrendanGooch
01-01-04, 15:30
Guys,

This is the second time I have used Fine Dates. The ladies are very warm, friendly and I have always enjoyed thier company.

Last week I rented a lady called Jessica. a quick call to the agency and they SMS me the address for incall etc.

The only critisim I have of this agency is that the women look like models on the site but in real life not so good looking. However the girls themselves are warm, charming and friendly which more them makes up for this.

Jessica seemed the very talkative type and told me alot about herself which I thought was really sweet. When we got down to it she gave me a wonderful blow job.

I was always put off my blow jobs (previous experience with amsterdam hookers they seem very rough) but Jessica was absolutely splendid.

She allowed me to kiss her on the body but because she had flu at the time she preferred I didnt kiss her on the lips. I respected her wishes, all in all for 150 quid it was worth it.

Murilloa
01-02-04, 10:43
Vegaheart,

That is useful and important information. I will take your word for it - budget and schedule permitting, I'll try Lily next time in London. I know what you mean about Lori being quiet, and other gentlemen have made similar remarks about her. For me it's part of her charm, you feel you're seducing and encouraging a sweet slightly shy sexy young woman, rather than being taken in hand by a hardened pro. In fact Lori doesn't feel like a working girl at all, although after two years of busy Fridays at Les Girls she now ranks among the experienced professionals of London, and I think she does a little freelance work on the other days of the week: it would be strange to think of that glorious body being unappreciated Saturday to Thursday...

Getting back to the business of this board, which is giving advice on price and quality to fellow seekers: Les Girls does remain great value for money if you consider that some Asian and EE girls are now charging £250 for an hour incall, and you are really taking a gamble on the experience. For the same money, if you had a weekend in London, you could have half an hour with Lori on Friday, Rebecca on Saturday, Kirsty on Sunday, and newcomer Carmen on Monday. Then of course you'd need to find another £60 for Lily on Tuesday.. and you wouldn't even have had Paige yet... not that it matters, everyone else has!

Ralph Alton
01-06-04, 06:00
At Les Girls, what does the 1/2 hour special get you? What is left out? Is there an advantage to the full hour instead of the 1/2 hour appointments?

Murilloa
01-06-04, 19:12
Ralph A,

The half hour service is for one orgasm, achieved in the position or positions you desire, with covered BJ and usually some inspiring massage to warm you up. Another way of getting excited is to enjoy the wide variety of uniforms and toys they have - I realise that the uniform thing is a bit of a British obsession but believe me the younger girls like Lori look fabulous as schoolgirls and the fantasy of being the wicked teacher introducing them to older cock can be irresistible. Still on the subject of British vices, corporal punishment can be dished out but that's not my scene. Nor is anal, which I think some of the girls offer, others not. Same with kissing, some do, some (Lori, unfortunately) do not.
£115 buys you one hour, and a repeat performance of the above. At my age, the second shot is usually just a leisurely handjob, and all the Blore House girls I have ever had, have been experts in this noble art. The longer period can also be used to caress and converse: again most of the girls, including my favourite whose name I need not repeat, are intelligent and interesting, and take an interest in you: servicing only ten or twelve guys a day, once or twice a week, they do not become 'hardened'... they leave that to you...
Hope this is useful.

Ralph Alton
01-06-04, 23:02
murilloa, thanks for the response. 1/2 hour is one shot, then! Two follow-up questions:
1. Are appointments needed or is it "walk-in" business.

2. Are additional "tips" required/expected/unimportant?

Murilloa
01-07-04, 08:07
1. Appointments are not necessary, you can just turn up, but some of the girls do get heavily booked so it's always best to ring and make an appointment the day before... as long as you know you can keep the appointment at that time - the one thing these girls hate more than a burst condom is an unkept appointment which represents a financial dead loss to them as they cannot attend a speculative visitor during the time set aside for appointments. Les Girls doesn't open or answer the phone till just after mid-day, and some of the girls, Lori included, have permanent bookings during the first hour or so, lucky bastards who can be there every week.

2. As in all Soho walk-up apartments, you will be greeted by a 'maid', an older woman who will introduce you to the girl and leave you with her. If you don't like the girl, you leave and no hassle. Once you have established a deal with the girl, she will ask you for a tip for the 'maid'. I give £2, more is unnecessary.
The maids here are friendly, discreet and presentable women, not hags like elsewhere in Soho.

Another difference about Blore House is that unlike other Soho apartments, the money you pay upfront is for whatever the girl does - either she does a certain thing or she doesn't, but you will not hear her demand 'extra' if you ask her, say, to do a slow strip, to put on a nurse's uniform, to let you eat her pussy, to toy with a dildo etc. When you leave, you may want to give the girl a tip if you are delighted with her, but it is absolutely not expected or demanded.

The Soho scene is very fully covered on the British board *********.com, just use their efficient search engine. The rota at Blore House is on their web site http://www.lesgirls.co.uk/ The two English blonde girls, Paige and Chelsea have some photos there, but sadly the foreign ladies are shy about this.

Enjoy your London trip and report back.
And one last word (I know I do go on a bit, but this advice cannot be repeated enough... DO NOT enter 'strip club' or 'live show' premises unless your idea of fun is being aggressively robbed by a truly scary Eastern European thug.

Ralph Alton
01-08-04, 02:22
Most useful information, murilloa! Thanks. I'll put in a report when the deed(s) are done.

Cherrycoke
01-11-04, 14:57
There is a newish parlour located in Maida Vale (West London - Bakerloo Line).

Its called 'Twice as Nice' and is proving to be an excellent find.

They normally have two girls working per day between the ages of 18-25 and prices from £50 upwards.

Most of the girls offer OWO and a couple to completion.

Details can be found in any local west london paper.

I used to frequent Soho Walkups but find they are pretty much hit and miss for quality. I believe the best places now are the various parlours located in London suburbs.

Phil
01-13-04, 16:26
Are there any fine black girls selling pussy in London?

Flexible Horn
01-14-04, 12:00
Hi fellow mongers,

I live in London & would not dream of going to Soho, It's a complete rip off. London is as you all know a very large city, with thousands of working girls in every suburb. If you have the time I would suggest spending some time away from the centre. Here are a few to try:

North London

02083662274 www.eroticprivatedancer.co.uk Pictures of girls on site. Two girls each day, £60.00 fs,cbj,ro for 1/2 hour. Some nice friendly girls.

02083421745 www.allserviceescorts.com Pictures of girls on site. Two girls each day, £70.00 fs,cbj,ro for 1/2 hour. Again some nice girls. This place also has parties once a month where for £250.00 you & approx 10/12 other guys spend 3-4hours with 5-6 girls doing everything including A with some girls.

East London

02085147082 www.gigglesgirls.com Pictures of girls on site. Two girls each day £70.00 for 40minutes & two pops. Some nice girls.

02085397030 www.vivasmassage.co.uk Pictures of girls on site. Two girls each day, mostly East European, some very nice lookers. £60.00 1/2 hour fs, cbj ro.

02085399103. Only one girl a day here but for £50.00 you can pop twice in 1/2 hour fs, cbj,ro some girls for an extra £10.00 will do bbbj.

Essex

07989407601 www.stanstedescorts.co.uk Picture of approx 12 girls on site Incall & outcall £120 for 1 hour. Again some good lookers.

These are only a few of the places I have been or know about, I have many more so if your visiting other areas get in touch & I am sure I could be of assistance.

All the places listed are safe & you will be treated well. I also have some private numbers where a girl works from her own home. One in particular lady I remember my first encounter. She's about late 30's & was obviously a looker when a bit younger. Now days she has put on some weight but still looks good. She can only work between 9&3 as she has two kids at school. When I phoned I was told it's £50.00 for fs, cbj & ro, now I love giving oral I mean love it, so I shoot round to her house as it's 2pm. Well up to the bedroom money changes hands & we strip off, wow 36dd's, on my back & the obligatory massage (crap). After a while I am asked to turn over on with the cover & bj time, now about 5 minutes later I tell her it's her time for pleasure. Down I go, now I have been told a few times by a few girls I'm good with my tounge (never with my knob) but after 15 minutes of licking & nibbling there was no moaning so as you fellow mongers know some allow fingers some don't, I slipped a finger in to help, there's no complaint, so up goes another. Well another 5 minutes later & I look at her face she's bitting her lip, her neck & face are bright red, she's nearly there so I think, lets try the brown so I slip one finger out & up the brown, wow she loves it. Moaning ,bucking she clamps my head between her thighs & shes come, I quickly jump on top with my covered length a ride for my life. It doesn't take long, two happy people. She tells me that i'll have to let myself out as she can't move, she can't feel her legs, God I feel good.

The Pirate
01-15-04, 18:14
London Stop-over Report

Gentlemen,

Travel: The best deal from the Eastern U.S. to London are currently on either British Airways or Virgin Atlantic. (My trip from NYC was $280.00 RT)

I landed at Heathrow and to the tube (London's Transit System aka "Underground") to the city. I would advise to take this route in lieu of a private car or British Rail. The tube is by far the best public transportation system that I have seen in the world. I arrived at the hotel, changed clothes and then met with a friend of mine to hit some bars / pubs / clubs. The London nightlife is great! There are plenty of beautiful women to suit any man's desires. Hooked up with a few here and there ( but no action). So, on to the hunt.

On day number 2 (last day in London) I called a pro. I was quoted a price of 170 British pounds - a little high for my taste. I decided to have some more drinks and save my "fun fund" for Amsterdam (IMHO the scene there is 50 times better).

Another London tip: Convert your Dollars at your bank before you leave the U.S. - you will find this method is a better deal. While in country, use an ATM. Stay way from the airport services and the street vendors (for the currency exchange).

Well Gents, I am off to Holland. A detailed report to follow.

Saint
01-18-04, 18:18
Flexible Horn,

Thanks for the info. I'll be in London next month and might try to check out some of those places. The dial a date girls can be a small fortune. I agree with the posts to stay away from Soho. I did hit Soho but it was more for the "I want to see what it's all about" attitude. The girls were nothing to write home about but it was quick and easy.

I stay in Kensington when I'm in London. How far is each of those locations from the Kensington area? I stay near the High Street Metro stop. Can someone PM or post directions to those areas from this stop? Thanks in advance.


Saint

Snowy
01-19-04, 22:22
Saint,

Whilst I haven't used any of the parlours mentioned by FH, I do know that they all have decent reputations. In London this actually counts for quite a lot - a lot of the parlours just don't seem to care and work on the basis they can afford to treat punters - and too often the ladies working there - like cattle. The service you get in many places is often a reflection of how well or poorly the staff are treated; probably the same worldwide though. The number of parlours and flats around the suburbs suggests there is enough business around to get away with it though. The parlours mentioned by FH are among some of those that make an effort to develop a regular client base and treat both the punters and, I think, the ladies with a bit of respect.

His list also demonstrates a bit of a problem for the typical London traveller - all of these places are towards the very outskirts of London and, in truth, are places you would not ever find yourself in in the natural course of a trip. There's the problem - if you want better value you need to move well away from the centre of town.

I've listed details of the journey below, but whether it offers better value for the traveller is a bit moot. You'll spend an hour getting there, if you want an extended service of 45 mins/ hour and a couple of extras you'll often end up paying £100/120+ anyway and then you have an hours journey back. Add £10 in travel and you'll often end up paying a similar amount than if you stayed central. There are some excellent independents in town at £150, and some really nice ladies at Scandals (Simone is an absolute gem) or Agency Caprice at the same price. I know this is still expensive relative to EE, Argentina or even other W. European cities, but I'm afraid this is the nature of the beast. London is expensive for everything I'm afraid.

For anyone interested (and regardless of what I said I wouldn't put anyone off these places), here are some details of the journeys. All of these places are an hour+ away from Kensington High St (every journey in London starts at an hour). They are also all off the tube system and you need to change from the underground to a mainline train.

For eroticprivatedancer, giggles and vivas you need to get to Liverpool St - get the Circle line towards Baker Street (via Kings Cross I think on the route). It'll take 20 mins. You then follow the signs at Liverpool st for the main line station. In order of the venues listed, you need to get a train to Bush Hill Park (30 mins)/Ilford (15 mins)/Walthamstow Central (15 mins) - they'll be big boards with the trains listed. You'll also need to buy another ticket (£4 return or so). Each site, I think has a map for the walk from the station.

AllServiceEscorts - you need to go to Moorgate, one stop before Liverpool Street, and get a main line train to Gordon Hill (30 mins).

Stansted Escorts - an agency who I really reccomend - operate mainly in Cambridge. It's a bit far away for an hour's appointment and nothing else thoug. If you want to go Cambridge for a day though, and it's a nice place to go, their incall flat is well worth a visit.

Saint
01-20-04, 23:55
Snowy,

Thanks so much for taking the time to post that. I know it will help some people out. You made a good point. I didn't realize it was so far out to those locations. While you might save some money on the front end you'll burn it all away with the time you waste. Unfortunately, I'll only be in London a few days and can't waste too much time.

Maybe I'll give Agency Caprice a try or just spend all my time with my normal chica friend there. Thanks again.

Murilloa
01-24-04, 12:22
Saint,

I am a Soho fan as readers of this board know: not usually the £25 quick-shag walkups, but the £60 places like Les Girls Blore Court. In general I cannot see the point of wasting time travelling to a grim place like Ilford when with careful shopping Soho has everything you need and is central, near the good food and culture (because, alas, one cannot be screwing all day).

However I do have a recent suburban find to report. My last two trips to London my stupid insensitive boss has sent me Weds/Thurs, to report back in Portugal on the Friday: so agonisingly just as Lori begins her day's work at Blore Court I'm in the fuckin' security queue at Gatwick. Well it's not really the chief's fault I can't possibly explain to him about Lori.

One Wednesday I had to visit colleagues in Wimbledon, a suburb everyone knows owing to the boring hyped-up sport practised there. Over lunch with one of them it became clear that he was a monger and he gave me the number of a nearby flat where I enjoyed for €60 half an hour with an excellent slim 20 year old latina beauty called Elize. 0208 542 2793 is the number, the address I can't remember but it's in Martin Way, Raynes Park, the adjoining suburb to Wimbledon. This is 20 minutes by train from London's Waterloo station, the one where the trains leave for France. This southern suburb is safe and accessible, and Elize is definitely worth this short journey.

NB she only works on Wednesdays. I just envy the guy who has the other six days with her. This is quite a feature of the London scene just now, the semi-amateur who does one day a week. Keeps them fresh and involved unlike the Baltic-Russian escort girls who are often tired, cold and distant.
Whatever your choice, enjoy London, Saint: it's far too expensive right now but remains a great city.
Muri

Cherrycoke
01-24-04, 18:18
Report for "Twice as Nice":

I'm at pains to share details of this girl but it would be a great shame not to try her.

Paid a visit to Twice as Nice yesterday, its only 1 min down the road from my flat and its also conveniently loacated 1 minutes walk from Maida vale tube (Bakerloo Line).

I saw Sarah for the first time a couple of weeks back and decided to pay her another visit.

She is 19 years old with long blonde hair, a very pretty face and slim figure with a nice firm 36c.

Paid for the "VIP Service" which is oral and sex which was £50 and also £10 for french kissing.

She does provide OWO which I had the first time which is £70

She starts off with a fantastic massage, rubbing her breasts over your back and neck, licking all over your body and making lovely sexual noises, after 10 minutes of so I flipped over to view her smiling face, spent five minutes playfully kissing and having a play with her great tits.

Gave me beautiful oral and then climbed aboard for sex, she gets very involved and after blowing my load I realised that this is a girl that my bank manager is not going to be happy about, as I'll be seeing her on a regular basis.

I also go on the notion that if you find a good thing, you stick to it.

Anyway guys, she works wednesdays/sundays, they usually have 2 girls working and I can also recommend Tina (small Korean girl - 19yrs old) who works Saturdays.

If anyone requires further details/location just send a message.

Maida Vale.

Flexible Horn
01-25-04, 19:59
Murilloa,

I don’t think I made myself very clear in my 1st report; I was not referring to establishments such as Les Girls at Blore House or Soho Cottage at Duck Lane. I was in fact referring to the clubs, the clubs that every time their licence comes up for renewal Westminster council opposes it. I have first hand experience of these clubs but as they say, that’s another story.

Now Ilford a grim place. Well I’m a gambler & call it a hunch, I’ll wager you have never been to Ilford. Giggles (in Ilford) are a clean, honest establishment I can fully recommend. I appreciate some visitors have a restricted amount of time, but some people who come to London will have more time to venture out side of the centre.

Having lived in London over 40 years my sole reason for posting on this site is to help fellow mongers, trying to steer them away from rip off establishments & rip off girls. I will be travelling abroad soon and have found that cities site an absolute gold mine of helpful information.

Flexible Horn.

Murilloa
01-26-04, 19:35
Flexible Horn,

You are absolutely right, and it was certainly not my intention to be critical. As far as the clubs are concerned, the warning against them as rip offs of the worst kind cannot be repeated frequently enough, as I said in a recent post.

You're also right about the main mission of this board being information for fellow mongers, which is why, in repeating my allegiance to Soho as a limited-time traveller to London, I also shared a really exquisite experience from the Deep South (Raynes Park).

About Ilford, you're half right. Strictly speaking, you lose your wager, for I visited the place a couple of times, but almost a quarter of a century ago, and at a difficult time in my life. So it was lazy and snobbish of me to write it off as 'grim'. I apologise, and if I get time on my next trip to London I will make a penitent pilgrimage to Giggles, where I'm sure a little corrective discipline could be arranged for me. Perhaps I will fully expiate my sin if I tongue one of their ladies to climax as you like to do.
Good luck on your foreign travels and if the eternal pursuit of pleasure ever brings you to Lisbon, allow me to be your 'mine of information'... at present I'm paying weekly visits to a lady who loves to be eaten...
Happy hunting,
Muri

Saint
01-27-04, 07:26
murilloa,

Thanks for the post. I did hit Les Blore House the last time I was in London last March. You're right that for the tourist that isn't in town that long it's a quick and easy trip (once you find it). However, the quality isn't comparable to what most picky guys are looking for but it's a quick and easy "release". I just wanted to find out what it was all about.

I would gladly go there again if there were hot girls. The manager was really nice and professional and the place seemed clean. I'll see what kind of trouble I can get into in London. I'm only there a few nights.

Mensis
01-28-04, 19:50
Evenin,

Not a report but anyone got any experience with the following ladies...?

Agency Caprice
*Chloe
*Michelle (eek)
*Bridgitte (eek)

Scandal Babes
*Natasha
*Amanda
*Juliet
*Anyone really.

I'd really appreciate it, so if you have, thanks very much, and sorry I can't be much more help myself.

Snowy
01-29-04, 01:21
Murilloa! I’ve lived around London my entire life and I was blissfully unaware that we had a Deep South – Raynes Park has never sounded so exotic; I’ll think of it as Cajun country in the future!

I’m been slightly inspired by Saints’ great post about Paris (every word of which I completely agree with). The advice is so good, I was tempted to cut it into this forum, changing the word Paris to London as nearly every word could apply to this city – hell I’ll even argue London as a beautiful city! His points about taxis, being a good walking city, getting around late at night, the friendliness of the locals (or the perceived unfriendliness) and the expense (oh lord is it expensive here!) can be applied equally to London.

I have to admit to being a huge fan of London and everything it offers. It is not a place though to come for a purely punting holiday. Most girls offer overnighters at £1000 – I worked out I could go to Kiev, including the flight, accommodation, spending money and overnighters with a different girl each night for the same money! It’s a great place though and offers every possible pleasure and entertainment you could want, culture, history, great bars, food and nightlife. Of course the weather is lousy and, as it is at the moment, the whole place grinds to a halt at the first sign of snow!

As for the P4P scene, a few observations which I hope will be of some help. Firstly top dollar definitely doesn’t always equate to top quality. A lot of new girls are advertising at £300 per hour – it really isn’t that uncommon. I’m sure that some are great, but there are plenty of very expensive girls who are no-where near as attractive as they think they are and have a lousy attitude. Even if you have deep pockets, it’s worth doing your research in this forum, through the ********* FRs or either of the *********/Puntingzone forums.

The massage parlour scene has been discussed a bit here recently. Be wary of any parlour centrally located, especially around Euston/Kings Cross. They won’t be dangerous or anything, but they can be very expensive for very average service. Like the Soho walk-ups, these places make their money through volume of business and are more reliant on walk by business and not repeat business. This being the case they aren’t that bothered about pleasing the punter enough to get him to come back regularly. You may get a great service, but it’s a lottery with pretty bad odds. Places like Les Girls have fans as they make a real effort to develop a loyal customer base and you can rely on the service and the people. As previously mentioned, many of the better parlours are out in residential areas in the suburbs. Most of the suburbs in London are fine – they’re a bit boring, but quite safe. More bland than grim.

I’m not really into the parlours. I personally would rather save up and have an hour+ appointment, but the parlours offer a cheaper 1/2 hour alternative so I see the attraction. Prices though can get sneaky expensive. You need to be really clear up front about what the price includes. A lot of parlours will charge more for “extras” – FK, DATY, BBBJ, CIM, A – all of these are often classified as extras with an additional £10-20 cost. Suddenly your good deal at £50 is £100 for the 1/2 hour. Also remember, an hour appointment in most London parlours will be at least the same price as an hour with an escort. This being the case, a good escort from an agency at £150 suddenly seems (relative for London) better value.

One word of caution about the walk-ups. If someone who knows this scene better wants to tell me I’m talking garbage then please do, but I do have a real concern that some (maybe many) of the girls in these flats in Soho are working against their will. There is a fair amount of coverage about sexual slavery and there have been a few busts in Soho in recent months. Make of this what you will.

To the best of my knowledge there is no street scene of note in London, especially in central London. Be massively suspicious of any apparent street action, particularly around Kings X. Don’t go near it – this is dangerous stuff.

I won’t go into any detail about the escort scene as it been covered before – basically whatever you want from £140 p/hour upwards! A couple of girls I’ll tentatively mention (as I've never met either) are:
http://www.geocities.com/amandaescort/
http://www.geocities.com/karinaescort/

They both have a couple of good FRs, look good, are fairly centrally located and, at £100 for an hour, seem to offer as good a value as you’ll get here, if they float your boat.

One final point is to mention the thing that never gets mentioned about London – just talk to the girls you’ll see when you go out! I’d like to explode two myths. Firstly, you’ll see some truly stunning, stunning girls around London (admittedly not all English). Secondly, don’t believe that London girls enjoy sex any less than anywhere else. You’ve got as good a chance as getting together with girls here during your stay as you have in Paris, NY or many other cities. Don’t focus too much on the really expensive bars or clubs for meeting girls, just try normal pubs in town especially on a Thursday, Friday or Saturday. They’ll be crowded and full of a lot of girls just out for a good time. It’s no more complex than other cities – be charming, confident, funny, play the dashing tourist in need of help – whatever the hell works for you (if you have a fool proof formula for getting girls I’m all ears!). I think you’ll be surprised by the potential response….of course you will get brutally put in your place and ritually humiliated too, but them the risks! All part of the game.

Enjoy.

El Mujerista
02-01-04, 21:33
Mensis,

I don't know if you've tried looking for field reports on these ladies at *********.com, but you might find them there. Unfortunately, the site appears to be down at the moment so I'm not able to give you a preview.

I did Jasmine at Scandal Babes last week, my first/only experience with that agency. Very pretty girl, great body if you're into tight, petite Asian types (which I am). She seemed a bit tired, and ran from hot to cold on the GFE index, so it was a bit of a disappointment considering some of the reviews I'd read at *********. Nevertheless, she did an enthusiastic and willing CIM, which included playing around with things a bit before finally running off and exchanging it for mouthwash. There was cuddling and conversation afterwards, and I actually overstayed my scheduled one hour by 10 minutes, so it was a pleasant enough experience.

Overall, the agency seems to get good marks for high quality women. Other agencies I've tried and have been pleased with included Asian Escorts London, A1-Asian, and Academy Girls. All have offered BBBJ, and some with CIM though this probably just depends on the girl.

I broke into London a couple of years ago with the Les Girls Blore House scene with Lori and Paige. Quite satisfying at the time (I've done beautiful Lori on three occasions) but I eventually tired of the lack of kissing (especially from Lori) and CBJ requirements. The agencies seem to offer a good (but pricier) alternative, although I've found that quite a few of the girls don't speak much English.

London in general offers a really great scene which I have been fortunate to experience many times, though unfortunately it is probably one of the most expensive cities in the world.

Snowy
02-02-04, 01:18
Mensis,

Can't help you with direct experience of the requested girls, but I've used both agencies on occassion and I've found them both reliable in terms of the pictures on their site being an accurate reflection of the girl's look.

The lady at Caprice is really nice and she seems pretty reliable when asked a direct question. The lady who runs Scandal is efficient if not overly talkative. Both agencies seem good at removing girls with any bad feedback pretty quickly.

I've met, and would reccomend, both Simone from Scandal (very sexy and sweet girl) and Patricia (who is also Ognezka at Caprice). I've seen both Pam and Kristina out and about in London and both of them look great. From Agency Caprice, Anika is a lot of fun.

*********'s FRs are down at the moment, but I'm sure Juliet has a number of positive reports on there.

Murilloa
02-02-04, 08:47
Si, mujerista, que lástima that Lori doesn't kiss. But if she didn't have at least that one defect I think I would have lost my head by now and tried to kidnap her. Which would attract unwelcome attention from the police, or even the much scarier Albanian mafia.
And that brings us to an important point mentioned by Snowy, concerning ladies working against their will. As a Soho fan Muri has thoughts about this but will share them later as it's Monday morning and one has to pretend to work for a few hours to earn the next visit to Lovely Lori.
Mur

Ascot Biker
02-03-04, 10:43
I have had some great times in Soho. There are two lovely french ladies who have a flat in Greek Street. I dont know the number but it is just opposite the junction with Bateman Street. Go up to the first floor. The top floor is OK too but I prefer the first floor.

They will give you nice, unhurried French and sex for £25. They take their time and they seem to really enjoy what they do. And they make you feel great. You will probably get about 20 minutes for this. If you want longer, then just ask and pay a bit more.

They both take turns to stay in London for two weeks and then they go home to France for two weeks. So you can see these girls are not at all desperate. In fact they are quite careful who they choose to let in.

Both girls are in their 40s I would say but they give you a far better time than many young girls I have had.

They dont work very late so if they are closed, cross over the road. There is a basement flat with a red entrance door. If you stand on Greek Street with your back to Soho Square it is on the right just after Bateman Street. I had some fantastic sex there with an east-european girl. I paid £35 for a massage and sex. When I asked if I could kiss her she gave me a great time and took far longer than I was expecting. I was there for about half an hour. She wouldnt take any extra money for the extra time either. She just seemed to be enjoying herself. I was quite surprised. She even kissed me goodbye.

The madam was a bit pissed off that we took so long and she gave me a bit of a telling off afterwards but who cares about the madam! I recommend you offer the girl a bit extra for extra time and enjoy yourself.

Mensis
02-06-04, 16:34
Mujerista, Snowy,

Thanks. I'll need to save up a bit. I did look on ********* and there's a few reports, if a bit outdated some of them. Michelle and Bridgitte are stunning from their pics, that's particularly why i asked.

Maybe Simone. :)

I'll stick something up on here when I get round to going.

Thanks.

BrendanGooch
02-14-04, 21:32
Has anyone had any experiences with Phoebi at Academy Girls ?

She looks rather cute from her pic. Wanna check wether anyone has had any good/bad experiences with her.

Thanks

Saint
02-15-04, 06:30
Hey Snowy,

I was happy to read you liked my report on Paris. If you go back you'll read I visited London last year and had a good time. London is another beautiful city. The downside is that it is even more expensive than Paris. It's a great walking city. I'm going back to London next week. I'm not sure if I'll see any girls but I'm looking forward to the trip. Thanks for your post.

Saint

P.S. The only thing I disagree with is that I don't think there are many stunning British girls overall. Walking the streets in the Kensington area I found most of the British girls to be not attractive. All the hot girls were speaking Italian, Spanish or Russian. Ha, ha. Good luck.

Snowy
02-15-04, 15:17
Saint

From the information on this forum I've been able to save so much money for trips to Russia, Ukraine and, later this year, Argentina, I wish I could repay others by revealing loads of secrets on how to do London on the cheap; I can't. I just don't know how it can be done! My only substantive contribution is to say "don't punt here"!

As for good looking British girls, there are some - there are 5 million women in London, surely some of them must meet your tastes! In the last couple of weeks, there's you damning British girls and someone on the Moscow board describing all the British guys as "uptight, anal and conservative"! Our reputation amongst the rest of the world is clearly not good! LOL.

If you do need any travel or general information about London prior to your visit please feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to help out. Otherwise have a good trip.

BrendanGooch
02-15-04, 16:41
Guys,

Apologise in advance for not posting in the Czeh section of this board. However I have heard reports from familiar members who haunt this particular forum about their frolics in Prague.

First of all, I am going by myself and have heard alot about the famous Sex Parks. If I were to go by myself what would it be rather dangerous ? If I grab a taxi from the hotel can I trust the taxi driver to take me there without driving me off into some dodgy area ?.

Any advice would be appreciated - thanks

B

Niko5
02-15-04, 21:29
England is so expensive, sounds like you guys have a lot more fun than we have back in the states. Very little BBBJ offered. I'm flying into Heathrow in a few weeks. Looks like for a price, fun can be expected.

Saint
02-16-04, 15:48
Niko,

Not sure where you've been looking but there is lots of action available here in the good ole USA. Just go to a site like www.eros-miami.com or any other major city. Plug in that city name after www.eros- ? .com Then you can read reviews of them at sites like www.a-sp-d.net and www.ymmv.net or www.*********.net. Lots of action here too. It's cheaper than London too.

I've probably seen about 100 girls in the USA over the years but have given them up for greener pastures in other countries. Good luck.

Niko5
02-17-04, 06:53
Well thanks for the info. It does seem like it's going to help. Need all the help I can get while my fiance is out of the country until May! LOL. Hope you're having tons of fun over yonder.

TheKnight
02-19-04, 00:34
Attention Brendan Gooch:

I saw Phoebe of Academy Girls a while back. She was fairly pleasant, and no real complaints, just not into it as much as some of the others. Pretty sure I wrote a report on ********* at the time.

Skagen
02-19-04, 04:25
Hey,

I'm considering a visit to Soho Cottage. Is there anyone who had first-hand experience with *more than one* of Sam,Tata and Neelam. Looking to maybe see one of them. Also is Neelam Indian or some other type of Asian?

Cherrycoke
02-19-04, 21:47
Hey All,

Hooked up with Simone from Scandal Babes the other night, she lives around the corner from me which is kinda handy.

Paid £150 for the hour but she is very flexible on the time and I ended up staying about 1 hour 45.

BBBJ, full on kissing and great sex - Twice! she is a lovely sweet young girl and if you ever get the chance, give it a shot.

For those discussing the SoHo scene, I sometimes frequent walk-ups but only when I just want a quick meaningless fuck, most of the girls seem pretty "vacant" that I've encountered.

I'm on the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in SoHo most weekends so I usually end up trying one out but after more than I care to remember, I've still not come across anyone worth returning to.

El Mujerista
02-20-04, 13:46
Maida Vale,

Thanks for the positive report on Simone. I had tried to book her my last trip through London, but she was busy at the time. It sounds like a retry might be worthwhile.

Saint
02-24-04, 02:31
London Overview


There is no new hobby information that I can offer so if you’re only looking for hobby information please go ahead and stop reading now. I keep a journal that I write in each day when I’m traveling in a city. Many dudes have emailed me telling me they find my observations helpful when I report on a city so I’m posting this on London and hopefully it helps some of you going there. I really enjoy writing about traveling; I like planning trips and I type super fast so I hope this helps those thinking about going to this wonderful city.

General Observations

London is a very big metropolitan city that is very spread out. There is a unique vibe and flavor to this city that is like nowhere else I’ve been to. There is something for everyone here…. but at a price.

The flight isn’t that easy though due to the 8-hour time difference (from West Coast). If you have the extra FF miles upgrade to business/first class. It makes the flight much more bearable. I’ve upgraded the last few times to Europe and it’s hard going back to coach. If you don’t have the miles you can go to Ebay and buy “VIP upgrades” for around $300 each way. It adds about $600-$650 to your total cost but keep in mind a Biz-class ticket to Europe is about $5,000. I didn’t want to burn miles so I bought 2 VIP03’s for the flights and it was well worth it. (Keep in mind that buying/selling VIP’s are technically against AA’s policy so you won’t want to mention it to the ticketing agent. If they ask, just say they were given to you. It has become such a problem for AA that they are making the VIP’s electronic starting this year).

You won’t have much down time here because there is so much to see and do here. I’ve said it before about other cities that I’ve written about but I’ll say it again- bring your wallet- because you’ll definitely need it here! London is one of THE most expensive cities in the world. However, people here seem to earn much more than their European neighbors. I didn’t find that to be the case in Paris. The wages seem proportional to the cost of living so these Londoners can’t complain too much. I spent a lot of time with a Brazilian girl I met here (non-hobby) and she has no formal University education and is making £29,000 ($55,000) a year in a normal job there. Although her rent for a tiny studio apartment in Kensington is £900 per month.

Most people coming here will find it unbelievably expensive. The unit of currency here is the British Pound (GBP). It’s currently £1 = $1.90 so our dollars are almost worthless here. I can’t imagine even more worthless currencies like Canadian dollars here.

People here seem to complain a lot though. I guess not everyone makes a lot of money. I met a few waitresses and bartenders that thought they would come to London and make big bucks but instead they are stuck in a dead end job making about £6 per hour ($11.40) and no one really tips here they told me. I always tip well for good service and the staff always seems to be extra appreciative here.

People need to understand how the tipping structure works in many countries. They think since the restaurant is already adding on the tip on the bill the server is getting that amount. That is NOT the case in most countries. The waiter/waitress is getting a salary and that 10% covers their salary. If you get great service tip a little more. If the service is bad than don’t feel like you need to. When I’m in Brazil often times the service is horrible because they don’t get that 10% that you see on the bills. They only get their salary. The good servers around the world understand that it’s not just about being a warm body there working. Good service will earn them more money.

One thing that is clearly evident is there is a big part of the population from other countries. I’m not sure of the actual percentages and I’d be really curious to find out how many people are actually Londoners NOT from foreign countries. I’ve never been to a United Nations convention before but walking around London has to be the closest thing to it. Many interesting people that I met claimed to be “students” but I’m sure that can’t be the case with all of them. I’d venture to guess London has a very high percentage of illegal immigrants.

I also met several people that lived here that seemed to be a little down on their own city. When I told them how lucky they are to live in such a beautiful city they told me it’s an entirely different world when you’re just visiting as a tourist and another living here as an actual citizen. Many were itching to move out of London. One girl I met even inquired about the possibility of marrying to “trade passports”. I told her I wanted to live in Europe and she wanted an American passport. I told her I’m quite happy with just my “blue book”. Ha, ha. Seriously though, I know how these people feel. The USA is great but I’m itching for the chance to live abroad. The grass is always greener on the other side. Right?

There is so much history and culture here. I find London to be one of the most historic cities in the world. The architecture, as I pointed out last year in my report is amazing! It’s also romantic like Paris but in its own way. I find the history amazing in Europe. The United States is relatively new so our idea of history is the corner pharmacy or ice cream parlor that has been around for over 100 years. It’s sad.

A good source of information about city events and the hip places to eat, drink, shop and just about everything else can be found in the weekly edition of a magazine called “Time Out”. It costs roughly £2. If you want to check out some events before you hit London you can visit them online at: http://www.timeout.com/london/index.html

If you’re going to be here a while and can take advantage of a lot of sightseeing then you might want to consider buying a “London Pass” card. I heard it has good discounts but I never bought one since my trip was only a few days. You can check out the details at: http://www.londonpass.com



Arriving at the Airport

There are 4 airports in London. Actually it’s a little misleading since none of these airports are actually in London. Gatwick, Heathrow, Stansted and Luton are all outside of the city. Everyone arriving from the US will be flying into either Gatwick or Heathrow.

I’ve always flown into Gatwick but probably should try Heathrow as it’s the only one on a Tube line. I believe it’s on the Picadilly Line but you can go to this site to find out all you would need to know: http://www.baa.co.uk/main/airports/heathrow/ You can also take the Heathrow Express into Paddington station for a quicker journey to London but it costs more at £13. http://www.heathrowexpress.com/. It runs every 15 minutes and journey time is about 20 minutes. I was told there is an Air Bus for a cheaper alternative but it takes forever and can get quite crowded. I wouldn’t recommend it. The cheapest option seems to be the Tube via the Picadilly Line. I looked at the map at a station and the airport looked like it was in Zone 6 and the cost was £3.80. The airport code for Heathrow is LHR.

Gatwick is about 30 miles from the city. There is a ”Hotellink” bus shuttle (https://secure.fast.net.uk/hotelink/index.html) that you can take with other people. You pay a flat fee of £22 and that includes your ticket on the Gatwick Express (http://www.gatwickexpress.co.uk) to the Victoria station. Then a representative picks you up and takes you to your hotel. The airport code for Gatwick is LGW.

Since my hotel is close to the Tube I just take the Gatwick Express (first class is £36 or $68 for roundtrip ticket) to the Victoria station, which is on the Circle, District and Victoria lines then walk one block to my hotel. Again, everything you would need to know including buying tickets ahead of time with your credit card can be found on the site. I highly recommend buying the tickets ahead of time because you can use your credit card. You’ll get a confirmation # and you just go to a ticketing machine and punch in your confirmation and you can collect your tickets.

Luton isn’t on the Tube line either. It’s 35 miles north of London. The cheapest way to get into the city I believe is to take the Thameslink train (http://www.thameslink.co.uk/) to King’s Cross station, which is on the Circle, Hammersmith, City, Victoria and Piccadilly lines. It runs about 8 times an hour and takes about 30 minutes. You can also take the bus which is called the Green Line (http://www.greenline.co.uk/) You can get special discount offers for about £8.50 from Easyjet. I included this info because several EasyJet flights are out of Luton. For those of you that aren’t familiar with EasyJet you should check it out. It’s a discount airline that flies all over Europe for cheap. Think the Southwest Airlines of Europe. (http://www.easyjet.com ).

Stansted Airport also isn’t on the Tube line. It’s 38 miles from London so a long haul. I’m including information because it’s the fastest growing airport in London due to the growth of the discount carriers. Easyjet and Ryanair (http://www.ryanair.com/ ). All the flights here are European and UK based flights. You can take the Stanstead Express (http://www.stansteadexpress.com/ ) into the Liverpool Street station. I think it runs every 15 minutes and it takes about 45 minutes for the jouney. A cheaper option is to take the Stansted Air Bus which is cheaper but takes longer. Do a search on Google to find out more information.

Some other budget airlines for flights here are: BMI – www.flybmi.com; http://www.europebyair.com/; and Virgin Express (via Brussels) – www.virgin-express.com.


Transportation

When I’m in Europe I try not to take taxis if I can help it. Taxis are expensive and not really necessary most of the time. Unless you are in a big hurry you can easily get around on London’s Underground subway system (the Tube). I was told it is the world’s oldest subway system. There are plenty of free small maps of the Tube at each station. There’s also a big Tube map on each individual train.

There is a small learning curve when getting acquainted with the Tube but anyone can figure it quickly. Take the time to map out your path to your hotel and such before you arrive to London. It’s hard to believe but I never took any means of public transportation like this until last year. My first subway type experience was last March in London. It’s very efficient but the Tubes can get quite crowded during peak times like rush hour at the beginning and end of the workday. It gets surprisingly busy on the weekends sometimes too.

The biggest negative I had with the Tube is that it can get very crowded during peak times. I can’t imagine what someone Closter phobic would do because it would be impossible to take the Tube. Also the ventilation system probably could use some work. I bet in the hot summers here it must be unbearable.

Familiarize yourself with the lines and routes. Each line has a different color. There’s the yellow, green, red, blue, black, silver, brown and navy lines. Although I’ve found that most locals refer to them more by the name of the lines than the colors which I thought would be the opposite. The cost of a 24-hour Tube Pass is £4.30 ($8). I got one each day and got my use out of it. Armed with a small Tube map, I could make my way to anywhere around the city.

Just about everything you would need to know about the Tube is located at the link below. You can download maps of all the lines.
It’s a really valuable resource that someone took the time to put together so use it.

http://www.geocities.com/themole7/maps.html

Main Tube map from official site:
http://tube.tfl.gov.uk/guru/index.asp


You will inevitably use a taxi at one time or another if you’re in a hurry. I’d recommend the black taxis. I’d never been in a taxi like that before. There is a lot of room in them and it’s unique. I think everyone should take one at least once to experience it.



Where to Stay

Deciding where to stay can be a difficult decision. My first trip I stayed in the Kensington area and really liked it. I wanted to find an area that was very walk able. I also wanted to be near a Tube line that was convenient and accessible to all parts of the city. It’s near many museums, attractions and great shopping. I think the area is a little more expensive than some other areas but I think no matter where you go it’s not going to be cheap.

Before arriving, decide what’s important for you. It might be smart to note the locations of your favorite attractions, activities, cost and the atmosphere of the neighborhood. You also might want to note areas where there is good dining. I like the restaurants and bars around the Kensington area too. I also like being close to Kensington Gardens and Holland Park.

Although London is an expensive city there are tons of hotels and price ranges available. Do a search on www.hotels.com or www.expedia.com. Any nice hotel will range from $150- $300+ a night in most nice areas. Remember, those £99 a night deals you see online translates into about $190 a night. Sometimes it’s easy to forget how crazy high the conversion is.


Dining Out

As I mentioned, it’s extremely expensive here. There is no shortage of possibilities when dining out but any decent meal in Central London isn’t cheap. Sure there are tons of fast food type places but I like to eat well when I’m traveling. The great thing is there are so many different types of restaurants here. You won’t lack for a choice of what to eat. There are several resources online to help you eat cheaper in London but honestly I didn’t use them. Here is one site that has some advice. http://www.londoneats.com/news/news3.asp You won’t have a hard time finding a good meal in London. There is something for everyone’s tastes.

Generally I found that the nicer places are priced similar to US restaurants only the prices are in £’s so you have to almost double the prices! One day I spent £25 ($48) on lunch just for me! The meal was great but not that great.


Final Thoughts

No matter how expensive any city is, I’m a firm believer you can spend as little or as much as you want. London is no different in this regard. As I mentioned in my Paris report, it costs nothing to walk around the city and enjoy the scenery. London is a very walk able city. Part of the fun of a city for me is walking around looking at the architecture and discovering quaint little neighborhoods. Don’t feel like you have to spend tons of money or hit every museum if that doesn’t interest you. I find walking around a city more enjoyable than viewing pieces of art in a museum. To me, each city is its own piece of art.

Just pick a part of the city you want to tour and start walking. That easy! You can take the Tube to stops like Knightsbridge where Harrod’s is located or areas like Piccadilly Circus, Leicester Square, or Westminster.

I got no universal feel to London from the people that live there. Some seemed to love it, some seemed to hate it. Some seemed content to be living/working there now but mentioned they won’t be here much longer. The majority of the areas are very clean with no trash in the streets. If you wake up early and walk around you’ll see city workers cleaning up the streets every morning.

I really love London but it’s just such a massive city. It almost has an impersonal feel to it. People really keep to themselves compared to other cities. Even on the Tube it seems like people are scared to even acknowledge each other. Not only do they not talk to one another but also they don’t even look at each other. I like to people watch and watch the world going on around me. I’ve now taken public transit systems in Europe in Switzerland, Italy, France, Germany and England and Londoners have their own system of keeping to themselves.

I love shopping when I travel internationally but London is definitely not the city you want to be spending money on a shopping spree. Everything is more expensive here. Save your money for other cities. Even Paris was much cheaper to buy clothes. It seemed like every single store had 50% off sales when I was there a few weeks ago. Even 50% off sales in London make things normal cost for USA. London has a bigger selection and better stores but the stores that I did go into the service was not that great. I didn’t really plan on buying anything but the clerks didn’t know it. I have a few Platinum cards with no limits that I could have done some serious damage with but the customer service I found to be quite bad compared to other cities I’ve been to.

Be careful when walking around here. Pedestrians must not have the right of way here. I’m not sure but it sure seemed like cars didn’t watch out for pedestrians too much so be very careful and look both ways before crossing the street. I only noticed cars yielding at specific crosswalks. However, something that IS helpful is the “Look Left” and “Look Right” lettering at the crosswalks of many streets. It’s probably saved a few dumb tourists’ lives.

The club scene is quite good here although surprisingly it starts and ends earlier compared to a lot of metropolitan cities. A hip spot right now is a place called “Egg” near Kings Cross. I stand by my opinion that the majority of girls here aren’t as attractive as other major cities. There are hotties here though. I again found that most of the super hotties here were from Brazil, Spain, Russia, Italy and other countries in Eastern and Western Europe. It truly is a melting pot here.

Something surprisingly great about London is that they don’t charge an admission fee for their national museums and art galleries. They stopped charging a fee a few years ago. In other cities like Florence, Italy and Paris the admission fees can be quite high. The parks are also great here. It’s kind of nice to see all the swans swimming gracefully in the many parks here.

No guys will come to London to hobby. You might hobby while you’re here but it won’t be a motivating factor to come here. London is one of the great cities of the world. The other great thing is that they speak English so there are never any communication barriers. Everyone needs to come here at least once or twice in their lives. I plan on coming back over and over. Good luck.

P.S. Flying back home I read a great article about Dubrovnik and Zagreb, Croatia. There is no information on it on WSG. I noticed there are a lot of packages and tours from London. Can anyone tell me their experiences there? Feel free to PM me. Thanks.

Tarl
02-26-04, 07:46
Saint,

Just to add to your excellent report. I was in London, just this past Sept for about a week. Stayed at the Park Ave.Sheraton near Piccadilly square. My first experience in dealing with London, was that the cabbie wasn't sure which Sheraton I was talking about. Seems the hotels change names regularly, bought out etc.

Anyway, this was a great hotel - olde world class etc. I met and hooked up with a dutch sales rep, blonde very good looking and nice bum in the hotel bar (we still email each other) who was also on business. Anyway it was great to have a "regular" girl to hang out with and also sleep with. I partied at the "circus" at some Irish pub I don't remember which - with her and had a great time. We hung out just about everynight for dinner, or had drinks in the bar while doing email for work.

Now I would disagree with you about the mongering - as I had that too! I've mention this before that scandalbabes.co.uk has the best value and stunning women around in London. Check out the link. I had "Patricia" for $150BPS for an hour - at her apartment in Kensington. Now you have to agree she is a "10" and I can tell you she's a GFE on top of that! VERY service oriented. Of course for me $150BPS is $250USD, depending on the rate - but even at that price here in the US I wouldn't get a Patricia. I'd have to be a "high-roller" doing the $2K crap. I can't believe guys pay 2G's and more for 1 hour of FS for the same quality! Basically if you lived in London - it would cost you a 150 bones for Patricia. You can't beat that. So I mongered only 1 time - since I had the free chick. I got lucky and came back with money.

You are spot on about the UN aspect, so I have some advice for you in terms of living abroad. You need to move to Australia and forget the UK. I lived in OZ for 4 years and just got a job offer to move back, so I only have about 6 weeks left in the US (wife, kids are all aussies) and not coming back, except to visit. If you think the UK is the bomb, go to OZ. Great cost of living - WARM weather, gorgeous women and in Melbourne brothels are legal. Heck you don't even need brothels since the girls are very friendly and like sex, unlike our spoiled US ladies. I used brothels in OZ like a "last resort" or " I need a fix right now" or a lunch stress relief and don't want to wait. Meeting regular women is easy.

You like history - check out 20k years of aboriginal history all the way up to Capt. Bly stuff (first Gov. General of Australia - same Bly from the Bounty). Go to Sydney and compare - you will be amazed.

Anyway a funny story about the london tubes -- I was having after dinner beers with a customer and had to leave to meet my dutch sales girl, so after pounding only a modest few guinesses I left and made my way to the tube. Had to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) like a race horse, so I made sure I went as soon as I got to the station. Now in London (and in Australia as well) the platform is usually WAY down these hugh escalators. Well by the time I got to the platform, plus waiting for the train...I could feel the urge to "use the bathroom" coming on. It's a one way trip folks..once your in the bowels of the tube - forget it - no pissers anywhere. Now we have travelers and cameras so forget about "whipping it out". By this time, I'm on the train -so I'm committed for the ride ( at least 4 stops). To make a long story short, by the time I got to Piccadilly station - I was bursting at the seams!. All I can say is I'm glad I had light-weight dark black pants, that "air dry" quickly. And it was night time. Straight to the room shower and change and viola! All is good.

So the moral is, make sure you are BONE dry to the last drop before decending into the depths of the tubes - or take a cab which is a lot quicker.

Saint
02-26-04, 15:21
Tarl,

Funny story! Maybe I gave the wrong impression. While I liked London I could never live there. I couldn't afford to live there unless I made an ungodly amount of money. I like nice things. I like having a luxury car, living in a big house, eating well and going out to awesome places. All those things in London would be near impossible unless I made a King's randsom. Heck, there is nowhere really to park even if I did have a car there.

I think all the locals had it right. London is the place you go to for business or vacation but living there is another story. You're also correct that there IS action there. Last trip I went to Blore House and saw an internet escort. Blore House isn't anything to write home about but it's quick and easy and relatively inexpensive compared to the other high priced action.

Go to the local bars or clubs and chat with some girls. It's not too difficult to meet girls there if you're presentable. I do want to visit Australia. It's on my list of places to hit. I hope to hit most of the countries in Europe in the next 2 years.

OttoGraham
02-26-04, 15:30
Saint, nice outline!

I thought I would add a few things here.

I have visited London probably 10 times, generally on a week-or-less basis. When I visit London I usually stay at the Kensington Hilton, which is in a nice area of town, about 4 blocks from a tube station. I am generally able to get a reasonable rate when staying there. There are cheaper places but on a Value for Money basis, this place is one of the better buys in town.

One of the reasons I stay here is that it sits smack on one of the the Air Bus lines from Heathrow. I think the roundtrip fare ("return fare", in British English!) is 8 quid. Even though the bus does not travel quite so quickly as the Heathrow Express, I find that by the time I transfer from the HE to a taxi at Paddington, the time difference is the same. Figuring in the taxi fares to and from the train station, taking the Air Bus is also about 30 pounds cheaper.

Some "punters" (British English for "johns") swear by Soho walkups and massage parlors. Having never used them, I can't comment. But IMHO the best mongering in London is done through internet agencies. My personal favorite is www.academygirls.co.uk. I've been doing business with the owner for years - if you tell them you're a friend of Otto Graham from the States, they may treat you a bit better.

In general, mongering in London IS expensive (like everything else!). 200 quid per hour minimum, about 600 for an overnight. Some are more.

There are a few websites (including paid ones) which specialize in reviews for London and England, easily identifiable through Google. Because the proportion of fake reviews is high, I think these sites are of limited use to an occasional visitor, but are much more valuable to a London native.

Feel free to PM me for additional insights, or better yet, PM me and post the questions here. I will try to answer them to the best of my knowledge.

-Uncle Otto

(PS - I've cross-posted this from the General Info section, probably more appropriate for London.)

(PPS - Tarl, I'm not the spelling police, but it caught my eye that William Bligh was captain of the HMS Bounty and first Governor-General of Australia. ;))

Blair
02-26-04, 16:02
Saint,

If you get to Australia / NZ you will find the locals tip even less than the British. No bad thing either. I always tip for a girl giving good service but the last thing we want here is a US style tipping culture. The amount to pay the cabbie is on the meter and the amount to pay the waitress on the bill, unless they really have provided above average service.

On London

No doubt, London is expensive, but so are many other European cities. The P4P options are good however. You can find action at all price levels and all nationalities are available. Supply is strong, the £ has been so high against dollar linked currencies that London is a magnet for all types of service workers. Add to this free health care, social security and the fact it's easy to live without ID and the number of foreigners working in the city is no surprise.

I wouldn't visit London just to P4P but a good time can be had with no LE worries. Just don't get fooled into overpaying by high price internet escorts and fake ********* reports.

El Mujerista
02-26-04, 18:35
Otto,

I'm in general agreement with all your points, especially about the number of quality agencies in London and Academy Girls in particular -- the thing I like about them is £250 for either incall or outcall, so to me outcall is a no-brainer.

I would like to clarify that some agencies do offer an hour's incall enjoyment for under 200 quid, to wit (not that these prices are "cheap"):

A1-Asian £140 (£90 for half-hour)
Asian Escorts London £160
Oriental Angels £150
Scandal Babes £150

There may be others, but those are the ones with which I am personally acquainted and can report generally good experiences (actually, one so-so and the others absolutely fine). The top three listed obviously specialize in Asians. With few exceptions, you will find these are almost exclusively Thais, even though they may call them Singaporean, Malaysian, Burmese, Japanese, whatever. I've only met one that was accurately listed.

Not that there's anything wrong with Thais, IMO, just so you know. Scandal Babes, OTOH, specializes more in Eastern Europeans, with a smattering of Spanish, Asians and others. With any agency girl expertise in English might be an issue, especially if they're recent arrivals.

For example, my last experience in London about three weeks ago was with a Spanish chica from Academy Girls. She was advertised as speaking English, but in fact spoke very little. I speak Spanish well, so we ended up getting along fabulously -- she's on the repeat list, for sure. However, other punters might not have had such a good time. Had she been Russian, Polish or Hungarian, I might not have either.

Though it is pricey, London is currently at the top of my list of favorite mongering places. Happy Hunting!

Skagen
02-27-04, 05:13
Regarding the post made in this thread on 02-03-04 09:43 -

I went there on Monday this week. There are two doors down there with two different names: Monique and something else- maybe Annabelle? Not sure but its just one girl - she said so. She was Eastern European, early 20's 5'5", 120 lbs, 34C-24-32 ish. ie slim trim and in shape, decent handfull up top, not overflowing.

I went with £25 for 10 mins of sex and £10 extra for covered oral. She refused to do BBBJ aka OWO, which was curious since she started off by practically sitting on my uncovered dick and I made of point of not just sticking it it, which I could have. I didn't want that - but oral without would have been fine - which she wouldn't do!! Go figure....

Anyway she was quite good at covered oral but really didn't spend enough time to be worth the extra £10 for it. She was very good at the sex but would only do regular and doggie. She wanted £25 more for any other position. She was quite game to be fucked very hard - and encouraged it - so that was a plus. I guess that was cool, but it was definitley all but getting me to come fast. So the time pressure was a bit tense. For £55 she would give you 30 mins and you could come twice in that time.

She was good but clearly hustling me to get out there quickly. Not that I expected any different in Soho, but I don't think that the original post is an accurate reflection of how things are done there - I stayed two minutes over time to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) when I was done and her pimp/watch guy from across the street came down the stairs to find out why I hadn't left yet.

Under those circumstances, the idea of someone staying 30 mins over - unpaid as is told in the original post on her - isn't plausible at all to.

All in all I think this girl a great one for a quick bang. But not sure if worth a longer stay.

CityDude
02-29-04, 22:07
While I am not a real fan of walkups - Once in a while someone catches my eye :) The Les Girls Coop has been my favourite for quite some time - and has been reasonably priced. About 110 quid. Not bad by any standards. London, IMHO has the most variety in terms of choices. It is only here that you get to sample fare from nationaities from the world over.

Erich
02-29-04, 23:04
Hello there,

Well, I'm new here and actually I'm here for a funny reason.

I need to write a "report" about "prostitution" in England for my university english lesson, till thursday. It may sound unbelivable, but I could to pick the topic by myself, so I took somthing imtresting. :)

But since I live in Croatia, I really don't know much about it.

I was searching through the net and I foud this very intresting site, which I will visit later on, but for now I need your help:

I would want to know how the prices for all kinds of offers go, what BBBJ or OWO is and it would be grate if you could tell me as much terms, synonyms, expresions as possible to that topic and explain them, because I'm no naitive speaker of english.

I hope I've postet my request in the right topic.

Please help me out,

Thank you in advance.

RTFF

Rezza
03-06-04, 03:39
Erich,

Just go to the Terms & Abbreviation tab below the big WSG Forum on top of this web page to find out the meaning to BBJ, DATY, GFE and so on :-)

Lobo
03-06-04, 13:53
Greetings Gents,

I'm in London for a few days and wanted to check out the street action. While I know it is more dangerous and lower quality, there's something about it that I find alluring. I've done the escort services and Shepherd's Market walkups. While they have their own appeal, I was thinking of sinking a bit lower this time.

Is there still any action at the Ten Bell's Pub? What about London Bridge?

Thanks in advance.

Lobo

Cossem
03-06-04, 15:55
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Saint
03-08-04, 22:48
Erich,

Your post and your research paper gives whole new meaning to a "class field trip". I hope you get an A+ on your paper.

Good luck.

Saint

Cherrycoke
03-13-04, 20:28
Visited a parlour yesterday in Shoreditch (Can't remember name of the parlour but its where Commercial St meets Great Eastern St), just walked past it by chance and called them from my mobile for further details.

I was quoted £10 entrance fee and then services from £40-£60, as this isn't a bad price I decided to go for it and went to the entrance. The lady on the door asked for £20 which I questioned but she was unrelenting so I ended up paying £20.

Two ladies to choose from, average looking girls, one from New Zealand and one from Africa, I picked the New Zealander and we headed up to the room.

Now this is where she explains that the £40-£60 is actually just for HR or HR topless and that they are not supposed to offer any other services (Oh, how very moral of them!) but hold on a second, she now reveals that even though she would be "breaking the rules" she can offer CBJ for £80 and FS for £100.

Wow, how very kind of her to do me such a favour, putting her back out to skim me of £120 for sex with an average looking lady.

I ended up declining any other services, put my clothes on and walked out, perhaps I should of been clearer on the phone put I was quoted maximum service price of £60.

Anyway guys, give this place a miss, you can do far far better for that money. I did end up seeing Madeline from ScandalBabes Escorts which was excellent value for money and great fun, report to come soon!.

Ski Bonie
03-17-04, 22:11
I am in the northeastern United States and make an annual business trip to London. I have stumbled upon the website porn-air.co.uk. It's an airline based in UK that offers in-flight entertainment and sex. They claim to fly from London to various world cities including New York. I'm thinking of giving them a try next trip, but know nothing about them.

Is this for real? Any WSG readers fly with them? I've done a forum search and don't see any mention of Porn Air. Any information would be appreciated.

Ski Bonie

Opium
03-17-04, 23:20
Ski Bonie
Interesting concept this porn air but unfortunately it is a hoax. Please look at the following link
http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/01aug31/edit.htm
go roughly 2/3rds of the way down the page to the section entitled "Concept of on-flight 'Shag miles'".

It will give you the lowdown on this carrier.

Saint
03-18-04, 06:16
About two years ago I made my first trip to Buenos Aires, Argentina. I fell in love with the city and the people there. It broke my heart to see so many people less fortunate than us. There are many children that don't have adequate clothing or food. Shortly after my first trip I had a goal of starting a non-profit foundation or charity to help out these people. I was surprised when Jackson (owner of WSG) was at my apartment in BA and told me that he was in the final stages of starting the same type of charity. I was amazed and touched that we had the same idea. There really was no need to redouble my efforts.

The news media likes to talk about a side of the hobby that the majority of us aren't a part of yet they don't talk about the other aspects. I'm not quite sure how much WSG Charities has raised over the past year but I'm proud to say that many guys have contributed. Some have made very generous donations of $1,000 or more. I think that's wonderful! There are so many guys that receive benefit from WSG. Directly and indirectly. I posted the following below and I would ask you to read it and make a contribution.

Maybe Jackson will decide to branch out and help feed the poor of other cities. There is so much good we as a collective group can do. There is nothing better than helping someone less fortunate than yourself. Please give generously.

I know some of you will have the response, "yeah, I already donate to charities in the USA" or make up some other excuse. Many of us donate to charities in the USA as well but I'd ask that you consider helping out this cause.

________________

"Hi amigos. Some of you may be aware that Jackson has taken the time to start a charity to help feed the poor of Buenos Aires and the surrounding communities. It's ironic because we both had the same thought about trying to do something to help the poor of Buenos Aires. He was much further along and took a lot of time and effort to put it together. Several of you have emailed me over the past several months asking if I still had plans to start something like this. There is really no need to double my efforts as we have the same goal.

I am asking all of you that have received benefit from my posts in the past and all of you that have received benefit from WSG to make a donation. This probably includes just about everyone reading this forum. Even if you have no plans to visit Buenos Aires you have probably received an indirect benefit of living vicariously through members from this forum. I'm not asking you to contribute a huge amount although if you could that would be great. With the sheer number of guys that read this board all it would take is a small donation of $10, $15, $20, $25, or $50 a year to make a big impact. If you can afford it then donate a few times a year.

I'm sure many of you could care less about the poor of Buenos Aires. If that is how you feel than so be it. I strongly feel that everyone can afford to contribute AT LEAST $10 or $15 to this cause. Several of us at the Thanksgiving Dinner last year contributed money to help with this cause. I hope that in the next few months I see more and more people with a designation under their handle that says they have donated. I didn't even know Jackson was doing that but it's probably a good idea. I would personally feel offended if I'm down there and out hobbying with some of you and you didn't contribute at least a little to this charity.

I feel like I've taken time to contribute through my posts and I've never asked any of you for anything. This is the first time and I hope you can find it in your heart to help out. You can make a donation with Paypal.com and that is probably the quick and easiest way. (To make it easy for him you might want to include your handle with your paypal.com donation). Please keep in mind that this is Jackson's project and he is the one that took the time to put it together. I know he probably didn't want to solicit donations and he never asked me to. I'm asking on my own behalf. Thanks in advance for your generosity!"

Saint

www.wsgcharities.com

James D 2004
03-18-04, 08:17
About porn-air, they came to my attention not a year ago, but at least 2 or even several years ago.

Believable: they claim newspapers reported them so one can verify if one choose to. They must have a physical presence in airports and you can check. Pay by credit card and they can't cheat you. It's so easy to find a girl willing to do everything giving them a free ride.

Unbelievable: the older website has the look and taste of old British porn magazines. Those straight from Soho sex shops or old xxx cinemas. If they don't cheat money they may harvest your email when you make inquiries. Or just doing it purely for fun. The payload of double beds is suspicious - the weight the space. Don't know how they break even for those prices. But if they charge higher nobody will be interested. They even replied to my email.

I didn't follow up mainly because of the cut and paste from Soho magazine look, and the girls' dress taste straight from Soho xxx movies. Unreal. And that it won't be a nice experience cramped into a tiny bed. And that they don't have girl's pictures on site and let you book. And that I feel bad even if I fly to BKK or BA. I feel that everybody is looking at me, that I have no good intentions. Imagine using with an airline called porn air?

Ski Bonie
03-18-04, 15:08
Thanks for the feedback on Porn Air. I suspected it was a hoax, but it doesn't hurt to investigate. Too bad. It could have taken airline customer service to a new level.

Ski Bonie

Sabor
03-20-04, 22:05
Went to London for a few days and was really dissapointed. Would have been better if I went to Sout America. Very few good looking woman and asked around for the Shepard's Market. The Brits are terrible in giving directions. The very few hotties are awfully stuck up and everything in the country cost an arm and a leg.

Avoid the place if your looking to monger. The sites are great if you bring your own poontang!

Be safe!

Cherrycoke
03-21-04, 01:10
Sabor6,

If you'd taken some time to explore around there are some great places that are also quite good value, but with only staying a couple of days doesn't give you much chance to find these!

I'd disagree on the good looking women, London is very multi-cultural so whatever your into these bound to be plenty to your liking, some can be stuck-up its true but you can also find some real gems.

I do agree London is very expensive, especially with the dollar pegged where it is at the moment, to you guys who haven't been before here are a few examples of costs:

20 Marlboro Light = £4.70 ($8.80)
1 day Zone 1/2 Travelcard = £5.40 ($9.90)
Bottle of Bud in SoHo pub = £3.00 ($5.50)
Escort for 1 hour (average price) = £150-£300 ($275-$550)
SoHo Walk Up (sex) = £25 ($46)

Anyway, glad you enjoyed the sights! If your in town again I'll give you some tips on where to get the cute girls!

Mani007
03-21-04, 20:08
There is very nice place in South Harrow Middlesex. Very nice three russians girls give very nice service. No rush oral without french kiss, worth visiting. £120 hour 07880931827

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Cherrycoke
03-23-04, 19:42
Just visited one of the parlours I sometimes frequent near me (Maida Vale - West London), the place is usually pretty poor on quality and the flat itself is somewhat of a dump.

However, I phoned today to check who was working and was told a pretty 18 year old with large breasts.

Now that got me a bit hot under the collar so to speak, but I thought they may be playing on her age a bit as at this place an 18 year old is usually a 25 year old.

Anyway, got there and met the girl "Sammi" and she is stunning, 18 years old without a doubt, lovely slim figure with full firm breasts, very pretty fresh face, she told me she was Spanish but sounded and looked Russian to me.

This place is pretty dam cheap compared to others in the area:

HR: £20
ORAL: £30
FS & ORAL £40.00

Not sure about any extras, they usually don't at this place but I'll try find out.

Had an okish BJ i guess she is only young, but she had a tight little hole and the sex was ace.

I asked about her schedule and she doesn't know when she is working next but for sure I'll be beating down the door when she does.

Anyone wants to know where it is, its on Shirland Road in Maida Vale, 5 mins walk from the tube - PM for further info.

Mozart 21
03-24-04, 08:10
For the first time I tried a card from a London telephone box near Goodge Street. Phone answered promptly and after an explanation why the girl on the card was ot available today, offered Alex and told she was a genuine 22, perfect size 12 figure, long blonde hair and of German origin. Full range of services offered and assurance that any services available for a negotiable fee. The venue is 1 minute from the underground station and clear directions given.

Alex was exactly as described - a real stunner and she may not realise that she has put an end to my search for anyone else in London. Massage, CBJ, reverse oral, cowgirl and doggie in 35 minutes for GBP 120.

She works only on Tuesdays and Sundays and the magic number is 0207 692 5604.

Enjoy.

El Lobo
03-26-04, 03:35
A bit delayed but great experience anyway.

Went to London on business in early January of this year. After a pretty long and sleepless flight I arrived in Gatwick Airport. Now I have been to London several times before but always into Heathrow so I expected to be able to catch an Express to downtown London like you can from Heathrow. WRONG. I got on the Gatwick express and it dumps me off at Victoria Station. Bloody Hell I think, I need to get to Paddington station and I don't know my way around too well.

So I begin looking for a way to get where I need to go so I can check-in and crash at my hotel (Hilton Metropol) since it is around 6am in the morning GMT.

I pass by a really cute girl wearing some very sexy Goth-type otufit a couple of times. On my third or so pass by, she stops me and asks me if I was looking for anything in particular. Stupid me, I thought she was trying to help a lost wondering traveler. She was actually a working girl and wanted to end her "day" on a high note.

I explained that I was trying to find my way to transport to get to my hotel and that if she would help me get there I would certainly splurge on her services.

She agreed and led me upstairs to the Taxi station (smacking my head), got a taxi and off we went to my hotel. (Note: the fair was about 40 pounds or about 80 USD - a bit steep don't you think?)

We got to the hotel, I checked in and we went up to my room (much enjoyment over the stairs from the hotel staff).

We had already agreed upon a price (120 pounds) so I put that on the dresser. She then got undressed (what a smoking body - huge tits at least a 34C/D) and went to take a shower (I like them fresh all over). I decided that I needed a shower also and hopped in with her.

We soaped each other up all over, and I decided to take a taste down below. She was completely shaved and had some cute little pussy lips that just peak out a tad, so I gave her a good licking. After a while she got down on her knees and returned the favor until I exploded in her mouth - which she swallowed and kept sucking until there was not another drop to spare.

We dried each other off and went to bed to continue playing. She explained that she really did not have a place to go so she spent the night (I ordered room service) and we played the whole day and night away.

She had no phone number to give me but promised to try and come by and see me again before I left to come home - which she did 2 additional times.

I will never forget this trip to London and I am anxious to return again to see if I can find her. Her name is Samantha (Sam for short). She has shoulder length black hair, green eyes, around 115lbs, 5'6" tall, several tatoos, a few piercings, wears a black leather jacket with the Rolling Stones Tongue symbol as a patch on one shoulder and other Goth-type clothes. She told me that sometimes she hangs around Victoria Station until the morning crowd drys up and then looks for a place to stay.

If anyone knows more about her, contact me as I would fly her to stay with me in the states (yes, she is that flipping good!).

Stay Safe!

El Lobo

Mensis
03-26-04, 09:18
"1 day Zone 1/2 Travelcard = £5.40 ($9.90)"

That's peak rates. It gets cheaper, just under a fiver I think (should know), after 9am for a zone 1-4 travel card.

And that's all I have to say about that. :\

ps. London's great.

Sabor
03-26-04, 12:09
El Lobo

120 pounds? That's about 240 USD! I was very dissapointed with London especially with the prices there. I'm sure you had a great time with this provider but just negotiating a better bargain would have motivated me. As I'm going again soon my taste for the hobby will be left in the states.

Be safe!

El Lobo
03-27-04, 01:50
Sabor6,

Yes it was about US $240.

However, I had her for close to 24 hours so at $10USD per hour I think I got a fantastic bargain.

Plus, she and I did everything and anything I wanted. The only thing missing would have been Samantha and another girl (or 2) and me - as Samantha is Bi-sexual.

Play Safe - Be Safe,

El Lobo

Merlin Magician
03-27-04, 01:51
El Lobo,

You got el screwedo'ed several times in London. The first time was when your cabbie charged you 40 quid for ride from Victoria to the Hilton. 20 quid was more appropriate. For 40 quid you can damn near go to Luton. I bet your lady was in a deal with the cabbie. So she was making $ off you already and she hadn't taken her knickers off yet.

Nex time in, do your homework on locations and tube schedules, etc., and the shuttle busses. You spent 80 bucks you could have spent on some good English pussy.

El Mujerista
03-27-04, 19:20
Merlin et al,

In El Lobo's defense, he got a pretty good deal given (if I read his report correctly) he received LT service on more than one occasion for 120 quid. Any quality agency will run more than that for an hour's incall; even favourites like Blore House run pretty much the same for an hour. The young goth needed a place to crash, and was willing to provide certain services in return, including CIMWS. Not a bad deal, in my book.

I agree that he did get screwed on the taxi -- the lesson here is to never take the black cabs in London, as they are hideously expensive. El Lobo mentioned it was about 06:00, and while the tube service in London stops disturbingly early at night (for me, anyway), most trains are running again by 05:30. He should have been able to get from Victoria to Paddington in about 20 minutes for about £4, including the ticket for his girlfriend.

Even if the trains aren't running, one should try to find a mini-cab, which will always be much cheaper than the legally-sanctioned robbers known as black cabs (though, as Merlin mentioned, sometimes the girls might have a deal with the minicabs as well). The night bus service isn't all that bad, either, though since it takes more skill and perseverance to navigate, I wouldn't recommend it to a London newbie.

El Lobo
03-27-04, 21:16
Merlin Magician,

I did kind of think the ride was a bit expensive. however, he had it on the meter and so not much I could say. Probably took me sightseeing for a bit, but I had good company with me as the whole ride to the hotel Samantha kept playing with my johnson through my pants. Nothing as obvious as giving me a BJ or HJ; but pleasant enough to be VERY distracting. Perhaps, she was in cahoots with the cabbie; but I still think 120UK was worth it for almost 24 hours of her time, AND she kept "cumming" back for more on 2 other days for the same price.

Do you still think I got taken?

If so, then contact me with some better ladies for my next visit out there.

Be safe, play safe!

El Lobo

Mensis
03-28-04, 04:58
You got el screwedo'ed several times in London. The first time was when your cabbie charged you 40 quid for ride from Victoria to the Hilton. 20 quid was more appropriate. For 40 quid you can damn near go to Luton. I bet your lady was in a deal with the cabbie. So she was making $ off you already and she hadn't taken her knickers off yet.That's only once.

Anyway, why so cynical? The cabbie probably just heard the accent and thought he could get away with it.

Any idea what the £120 would have covered El Lobo, if it hadn't been at the end of the night?

Da Edge
03-29-04, 01:32
Hi,

Anybody know the pricing in this place?

http://www.sauna2k.com/

Am going to be in the area in April

Thanks

D Mic

Cherrycoke
03-29-04, 18:54
D Mic,

Not been myself to Sauna2k but heard its quite pricey.

I have been to the Scarlet Rooms up the road which I can confirm is good value for money and the girls are very cute.

www.thescarletrooms.com

Plus you can see who is working and what services are provided, unlike Sauna2k.

However, if you ring Scaret Rooms be prepared to be on the phone for about 10 mins, the lady that takes the calls likes to describe everything in minute detail, e.g. curtains/bedspread in the room etc!

Zarkoff
03-29-04, 20:28
Report for Barbie, http://www.londonpleasuredome.com/index.htm.

She's pretty much as her web site says. Pics are accurate, times are firm, prices are current, and what she does is well described. Check ********* for lots of reports. Her specialty is anal, and she does it with a lot of enthusiasm, although its a set event. She only offers 30 minutes but you won't need any more, trust me.

The action is always the same from my one time and what I read on *********. Make the date, she gives you directions (very easy from the Latimer Road tube) and you get the full deep kiss greeting to start.

Take care of money and then she starts getting off with the clothes and on with the BBBJ. If you've bought the whole business, it quickly goes to covered with mish then doggie. Pretty soon she's asking you to put it in the other hole - slowly - and with lub (she has lots available!) you are working up a sweat in no time. You can finish this way or she'll roll over and you do her ass mish. When her internal clock chimes, she'll take off the condom and finish you in her mouth.

For all she probably does, she's incredibly tight. Body is at least an 8, service an 8-9, but she's not that great to look at - a 6 in my book. Personality is super - 8-9. You are in, on, done, out the door in 30 minutes and pretty well drained, I might add.

For those who love anal, she's worth a try while in London.

Merlin Magician
03-30-04, 01:33
El Lobo,

You did damn good on the girl for the price you paid, even if she was working on the street. You had a very good run of luck on the lady, I say. About half the price for an agency or call box girl.

However, even the black cab for the run frim Victoria to the Hilton at Paddington should never be over 20 quid. I don't know why you don't turn in the cabbie for scabbing you.

In fact, one can walk virtually anywhere in London easily. The walk from Victoria due north to Paddington is not that far. Just from a little farther on one side of Hyde Park to the other. You could have even walked through Shepherd's Market and scoped out a few walk-ups on the way to Paddington.

Da Edge
03-30-04, 01:46
Thanks Maida Vale. Mei will be on the day I am there. It looks very nice. I will see how it goes.

El Lobo
03-31-04, 03:56
Mensis and Merlin Magician,

I guess my thought was the cabbie got luck because I got very lucky.

My chums in the UK tell me I got a bargain with the gal. Yes it was the end of her shift; but she came back 2 other times for the same amount. I would like to think she liked me and had a good time (as I know I did); but I am perhaps too jaded to think that there was anything to it other than business.

Well I look forward to my return trip and hopefully can find her again. Not looking forward to "regular" London prices for the ladies now that I got spoiled by Samantha.

Cheers!

El Lobo

Pussy Maniac
04-02-04, 23:24
Les Girls of Soho is a waste of time. They do over bookings so when you arrive with an appointment you still ended up waiting at least another half an hour before seeing the girl. They do not care about your time.

Sabor
04-03-04, 02:15
Well another trip to bloody ole England and despite the high cost of everything Sabor6 decided to indulge. I stayed at the Hilton Mew in Westminster London and just walking out making my way to Picadilly I hit a semi red light district. That goes to show if you're not looking to monger, monger will look for you. This area is called Shepard Market and is close to Park Lane. There's about four places and you can't miss the florescent window light. I took and hour with Stacy a busty British Lass but I have to say I've had better here in the states. One thing I will say is all the places in Soho, which is about a mile from this place are a complete rip off. Next time around I will definitely check out the place Maida Vale was writing about.

Be safe!

TheKnight
04-04-04, 00:15
Walk ups are always hit and miss. Sometimes the phone cards are better, at least that's my experience. But better still, use your laptop, or go to an internet cafe and browse sites like www.academygirls.co.uk or scandalbabes.com, select your girl and part with only 150UKP for a good hour. Still pricey, but in my experience, compares well with US.

Merlin Magician
04-04-04, 16:31
Knight,

Shepard's Market is a great mongering area. There are more than 4 places. There's about 75. As to the "hit and miss issue," also like Soho, you can knock the apt. and see the lady and if you don't like what you see, walk away and shop the next walk-up. The ladies expect this and are not usually offended. If they get offended, then you didn't need to do business there anyhow.

Where else in the world can you shop for pussy like this? Besides Shepard's Market is much safer than Soho.

TheKnight
04-04-04, 17:29
MM,

I agree with you on many points. SM is much safer than Soho.
Walk-ups are great when you're in the area, don't mind being seen walking-up, and have time. However, some people are still afraid to say "no" or are fearful of walking away if they don't like what they see.

At least with the internet these days there are options to see the girl before you order, and of course especially with 1 other UK site you can usually read about your intended conquest before hand and decide if the performance is what you want. Vive la difference.

Take care.

Mensis
04-05-04, 06:10
Guys,

I'm here asking for advice again.

Anyone seen Madeline from Scandal Babes? Can you tell me anything? She's got good and bad reports on *********, and I don't want to waste £150, but she looks soooo hot.

Can anyone give me any idea what she offers, if the website pics are accurate, etc?

Many thanks if so. :)

Murilloa
04-05-04, 19:14
Pussy Maniac...

is not much of a maniac for pussy, having completed just one post here, moaning about les girls. Under the equally unattractive name of 'woman eater' he has expressed the same whinge in the UK site *********.
Punctuality in a brothel is about as much to be expected as chastity. The girls are in a no-win situation: if they try to keep to schedule, and receive the next fucker on time, the hassled punter calls them 'clockwatchers'. If they go over time to please a punter's whim, or indulge an impotent or a drunk, the guy next in the queue gets upset because he's got a train to catch. (not that he would expect punctuality at one of Britain's' rail termini any more than he should hope to meet a virgin in Berwick Street).
For the record, on my many Friday trips to see the lovely Lori at les girls I have sometimes had to wait a few minutes in the kitchen while my lucky predecessor finishes, and on more than one occasion I have heard him 'finishing', with a cry of bliss, through the thin dividing wall. But the prize has always been well worth the waiting, and the maids have been friendly, discreet and polite, offering conversation and refreshment if required.
Instead of knocking that worthy British institution les girls, our new colleague should do what this board was designed to do and offer us information about where to get laid.
Mur

CityDude
04-09-04, 09:18
As a long time patron of Blore House and Cottage a.k.a Les Girls, I have rarely seen a booking overflow. Maybe the lasses I see keep an hour in between visitors :)